[16:05] <Stark7> if i had a machine that had more than 3gigs of ram then i would have go for it
[16:06] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change the current sent print job's pritner?
[16:06] <mojtaba> I want to change it from a real printer to 'print to a file'
[16:06] <tmro> sent here from #vbox - when I mount VBoxGuestAdditions.iso as a device on 10.04 as guest, nothing shows up in /cdrom or /media
[16:07] <tmro> same process works fine with 12.04 as guest (both vanilla installs with 13.04 as host)
[16:07] <Pessimist> tmro, 10.04 is not supported and what do you expect when you use ancient software
[16:07] <Stark7> hitsujiTMO, i have a crappy 4 year old sony laptop with core2duo and 2gb..t runs windows 7 32 bit pretty aweful  AND I MEAN IT!!still worth it?i
[16:08] <tmro> I expect things to function as documented
[16:08] <mojtaba> Does anybody know?
[16:08] <CorySimmons> I'm on a newer Macbook (64bit) should I get the 10.04 32-bit or 64-bit?
[16:09] <Armok> So switched over to ubuntu a few months back after planing to for years when my old computer crashed. Since I dont know anythign, I've been relying on a friend for EVERYTHIGN wich is anoying due to lack of avilability and time. Finaly got him to recomend somehtign because I were tired of waiting for weeks geting minnor thigns fixed and he recomended this for helping myself.
[16:09] <CorySimmons> Also, I'm trying to get as close to Heroku Cedar as possible, so how can I tell if it's 32 or 64 for them? (probably 32 I bet)
[16:09] <tmro> CorySimmons: have you a specific reason to get 10.04?
[16:09] <k1l> Stark7: 64bit is not only to use more ram. its every process can use broader ram.
[16:09] <Pessimist> CorySimmons, you should get 12.04/13.10 and if your laptop is older consider using Lubuntu/Xubuntu because old releases of ubuntu are not supported and they have unfixed security issues and bugs
[16:09] <Stark7> CorySimmons, thats definitely a go for 64 bit
[16:09] <k1l> Corey: 10.04 desktop is out of support. should go with 12.04 at least
[16:10] <CorySimmons> tmro: Yeah, I'm trying to replicate my production environment within VirtualBox
[16:10] <Stark7> k1l, broader ram? but ihave only 2gb
[16:10] <CorySimmons> Just to cut down on headaches
[16:10] <tmro> CorySimmons: same here
[16:11] <hitsujiTMO> Stark7: yes. check out the benchmarks http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_x86_1304&num=2 many 64bit instructions take 2 or more instructions to execute on a 32bit machine. switching to 64bit can only give you a performance increase. ofc the increase will depend on what you're running, but, none the less, its still better than 32bit
[16:11] <CorySimmons> tmro: Maybe we should do 32-bit then since I'm sure that's what Heroku cedar has
[16:11] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change the current sent print job's pritner? I want to change it from a real printer to 'print to a file'
[16:11] <k1l> Stark7: not only for overall ram (32bit uses PAE anyway to use more than 4gb)
[16:11] <tmro> in any case 'not supported' is the watchword for today
[16:12]  * ActionParsnip cant wait for Raring to die off
[16:12] <hitsujiTMO> ActionParsnip: come back in a fortnight
[16:12] <CorySimmons> tmro: Yeah I understand them wanting to get people away from older versions (doesn't explain attaching the taskbar to the left side) but there's a real reason for this :(
[16:13] <tmro> yep
[16:13] <tmro> let me know if you have any problems with guest additions :)
[16:14] <k1l> !eol | CorySimmons see this for explanation
[16:15] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change the current sent print job's pritner? I want to change it from a real printer to 'print to a file'
[16:16] <Stark7> k1l, hitsujiTMO  what kind of prep do i have to take for installing 32bit apps on amd64?
[16:16] <hitsujiTMO> Stark7: not much. ubuntu 12.04+ automatically has multiarch enabled
[16:17] <k1l> !multiarch | Stark7
[16:18] <Stark7> hitsujiTMO, oh so no extra libs
[16:18] <k1l> Stark7: this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch but as it says: you should not have to concern yourself
[16:20] <hitsujiTMO> Stark7: any extra libs should be installed as normal.      if you need a 32bit lib         its installed by appending :i386 to the packagename. most external packages cater for this
[16:20] <CorySimmons> k1l: I understand :)
[16:20] <CorySimmons> tmro: I'm sure I will. Are you on Mac too?
[16:22] <Stark7> thank you hitsujiTMO k1l for the confirmation just a few more q's(oh no?) about xubuntu & security as i read exaggerated reviews by the haters
[16:23] <tmro> CorySimmons: ubuntu at the moment
[16:23] <tmro> I run vbox on mac too
[16:23] <Armok> One problem I and a friend (mostly the frisnd) have been mulling on for like amonth or more withote finding anythign: While in 99.999 of cases it dosnt matter, certain jokes and artistic effects on the site MSPA relies on having the font rendered EXACTLY like on windows, and it just hapens to be using Curier New. Any idea what to do abaut this?
[16:24] <Pessimist> Armok, install ttf-mscorefonts-installer ?
[16:24] <Armok> I think I tried that but will try again
[16:24] <sm_> Hello, How can I setup OPEN WiFi access point on Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS?
[16:24] <Z32> How can I have the command 'sudo modprobe -v iwlwifi' run at startup?
[16:24] <Armok> "install: missing destination file operand after `ttf-mscorefonts-installer'
[16:24] <Armok> Try `install --help' for more information.
[16:24] <Armok> "
[16:25] <hitsujiTMO> Armok: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/better-font-rendering-in-linux-with.html
[16:25] <Pici> Armok: that wasn't a command.  You would need to do: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[16:25] <Pessimist> Armok, the command is sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[16:26] <Pessimist> Z32, echo "iwlwifi" | sudo tee -a /etc/modules.conf
[16:26] <Armok> oh. as I said I'm kinda new to this.
[16:27] <Pessimist> Z32, this should append iwlwifi to /etc/modules.conf which means iwlwifi will be loaded on boot
[16:27] <repozitor> how to set separate MAC for eth0:1?
[16:27] <ikonia> repozitor: you don't
[16:27] <ikonia> repozitor: it's not a physical card
[16:27] <repozitor> now eth0 and eth0:1 are same as to the other!
[16:27] <Armok> "ttf-mscorefonts-installer is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 122 not upgraded."
[16:27] <repozitor> ikonia, do you sure?
[16:27] <Armok> so presumably that didnt fix it
[16:27] <ikonia> repozitor: %101 certain
[16:28] <repozitor> :))
[16:28] <ikonia> repozitor: they are meant to be the same
[16:28] <sm_> How can I setup OPEN WiFi access point on Ubuntu Server 12.04 LTS?
[16:28] <repozitor> ikonia, how to have 2 separate interface with different MAc?
[16:28] <ikonia> repozitor: buy 2 cards
[16:28] <repozitor> 2 physical card?
[16:28] <ikonia> repozitor: correct
[16:28] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: why do you want different macs?
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: or should i say, why do you think you need them?
[16:29] <repozitor> hitsujiTMO, i want to know how vmware create new interface with different MAC!
[16:29] <ikonia> repozitor: they are not real, they are virtual
[16:29] <ikonia> repozitor: and when they leave the host they take the physical hosts mac
[16:29] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: they create virtual hardware, not virtual interfaces
[16:29] <repozitor> ok, so how to create virtual?
[16:29] <ikonia> repozitor: you don't
[16:29] <ikonia> repozitor: you are not vmware
[16:29] <robinmholt> repozitor: vmware uses a vmnet adapter whcih creates a virtual adapter with a different MAC.
[16:30] <Armok> On infinality, it seems unlikely to work because chrome is using it's own custom font renderer right?
[16:30] <ikonia> repozitor: and even then, it will use the physical cards mac
[16:30] <Armok> because html5 and svg manipulation and stuff.
[16:30] <robinmholt> ikonia: There are some example ethernet loopback-ish adapters you can find on the internet.
[16:30] <tmro> CorySimmons: figured out my problem with 10.04 i386. if you have trouble sharing folders with host ping me
[16:30] <repozitor> ikonia, creating virtual hard is hard or very hard?
[16:30] <hitsujiTMO> Armok: ahh if its that then yeah. thts down to chrome itself
[16:30] <ikonia> repozitor: why are you doing this, what's your end goal
[16:31] <repozitor> needing a good solution to make it
[16:31] <robinmholt> ikonia: Sorry, that was meant for repozitor.
[16:31] <sm_> Has anyone any experience with HotSpot WiFi on Ubuntu?
[16:31] <hitsujiTMO> !anyone | sm_
[16:32] <sm_> !details
[16:32] <repozitor> ikonia, i some part of my project i need to create 2 diff interface with diff MAC
[16:32] <Pessimist> sm_, there are a lot of tutorials on the Internet so you can try them and ask us for help if something goes wrong
[16:33] <sm_> hitsujiTMO: I didin't think that anybody even noticed my message that's why i said "anyone".
[16:33] <nashant> How do I disable the 10 second grub boot delay, and can I still get to the grub menu by holding shift if I do so?
[16:33] <repozitor> robinmholt, how loopback can have 2 MAC?
[16:33] <sm_> Pessimist: That's what I'm trying to DO...
[16:33] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: then use virtual machines
[16:33] <Armok> so either I'm wrong abaut chrome, or the problem is not geting it the right font file or other such thing, or the problem is chromium for linux being different from google chrome for windows. However ff has the exact same isue so i'm not sure
[16:33] <repozitor> hitsujiTMO, virtual machine overhead is so so great!
[16:33] <vbgunz> nothing I do gets me to keep my mic settings the way I set them. I can set them ok but they only change in memory. after rebooting, my mic is set to rear and is as low as 9%. it's a bit upsetting to have to change this every time
[16:33] <Stark7> is xubuntu fully supported as with ubuntu by canonical/mark?
[16:34] <Pessimist> Stark7, yes
[16:34] <Pessimist> Stark7, it's just a different desktop environment
[16:34] <Unforgiven> by canonical/mark , ;_;
[16:35] <k1l> Stark7: what do you mean "by mark"?
[16:35] <repozitor> robinmholt, needing more detail about your solution.
[16:35] <repozitor> now your idea make me no sense
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> sm_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/180733/how-to-setup-a-wi-fi-hotspot-access-point-mode
[16:35] <Armok> I think it's the font file, I vaguely remember trying it in Wine and still haivng the issue althou thatMIGHT have been a dream.
[16:35] <hitsujiTMO> Stark7: xubunu is a supported derivative of ubuntu
[16:35] <k1l> Stark7: its a community maintained official derivate
[16:35] <sm_> I have problem with hostapd as it wont start correctly. Error: Failed to create interface mon.wlan0: -23 (Too many open files in system). hitsujiTMO: Wont work.
[16:35] <yacc_> Any idea how to migrate GRUB to a new system disk? Will grub stop working if I change the numbering of the hdds (e.g. move the HDD from /dev/sdc to being /dev/sda)?
[16:35] <Stark7> Pessimist, i know that but in the ubuntu home page it says "Recognised"
[16:36] <Stark7> k1l, um the creator of Ubuntu
[16:36] <yacc_> (moving the filesystems is a non issue with LVM, but making the new system hdd bootable is what is making me scratch my head, ...)
[16:37] <k1l> Stark7: yes, but what do you think? do you think mark codes the stuff for xubuntu himself? :)
[16:37] <k1l> Stark7: as i said: its a community maintained official derivate. most packages it uses are supported by ubuntu )canonical)
[16:37] <Stark7> k1l, so the devs at xubuntu don't get paid by canonical right? sorry for so many q's
[16:38] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: ok, why do you think you need multiple macs exactly?
[16:38] <Stark7> k1l, no but the security patches and stuff
[16:38] <repozitor> hitsujiTMO, i want to donig my network exersice!
[16:39] <k1l> Stark7: i am not aware of who are the main devs from xubuntu and if they to their work in their spare time or if they get paid from whoever. you could ask that in #xubuntu
[16:39] <repozitor> hitsujiTMO, in this exercise i should create 2 separate interface with different MAC, and arping them!
[16:39] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: if you require multiple macs then use virtual machines/virtual adapters.
[16:39] <wadechandler> Is anyone else using multiple displays, recently installed updates, and having an issue where the unity launcher will not show on the monitor/display which is not the main one when auto-hide is turned on?
[16:39] <yacc_> hitsujiTMO, that's actually doable with ip route tools, but I have to admit that I forgot how I did that, ...
[16:39] <k1l> Stark7: as i said: most packages are the ubuntu packages, which have ubuntu support anyway. only the extra xfce stuff is what the xubuntu comunity has to handle
[16:40] <repozitor> virtual machine are not good idea, but can you tell me how virtual adapter works?
[16:40] <wadechandler> Just started happening after recent updates the past couple days.
[16:40] <repozitor> and which command create a virtual adapter in linux?
[16:40] <yacc_> hitsujiTMO, used it once to get multiple IPs assigned from a DHCP server, ...
[16:40] <fer755> repozitor or vlan
[16:40] <repozitor> fer755, vlan is virtual LAN?
[16:40] <compdoc> virtual machines are a great idea, but maybe you just dont need them
[16:40] <fer755> repozitor yeah
[16:41] <Javico> Hola muchachos ._.
[16:41] <Javico> Brochachos
[16:41] <fer755> sdrasvitsie Javico!
[16:41] <Javico> fer ! :D
[16:41] <Javico> xd
[16:42] <Stark7> k1l, well i have no doubt about package compatibility but concerned more about security updates
[16:42] <repozitor> hitsujiTMO, waiting for you solution
[16:42] <Javico> Nadie habla español ? .-.
[16:42] <yacc_> repozitor, google is your friend
[16:42] <hitsujiTMO> repozitor: i already said. use virtual machines with virtual adapters
[16:42] <yacc_> repozitor, http://superuser.com/questions/382169/create-a-virtual-network-interface-using-the-iproute2-ip-link-command-with-a-s
[16:43] <yacc_> hitsujiTMO, overkill ;)
[16:43] <k1l> !es | Javico
[16:43] <repozitor> yacc_, thanks
[16:44] <Javico> No hay nadie en el Ubuntu-es :c
[16:44] <Javico> Anyone Know How Install the Drivers ?
[16:44] <fer755> mala suerte
[16:44] <Javico> I have a ATI Radeon Xpress , but , i cant play in steam >:c
[16:45] <Javico> Ah LOL
[16:45] <Javico> xd
[16:45] <Javico> Si lo śe xd
[16:45] <wadechandler> Does anyone have the link to Ubuntu Jira/Bugzilla/or whatever the project is using to file and search for issues?
[16:45] <wadechandler> thanks
[16:46] <k1l> !launchpad | wadechandler
[16:46] <rookie_> hello
[16:46] <sakter12> hello!
[16:46] <wadechandler> thanks
[16:46] <fer755> hello rookie_
[16:46] <rookie_> i need some hel
[16:46] <rookie_> help
[16:46] <Javico> Español ? xd
[16:47] <yacc_> it's fascinating what a stock Linux kernel can do network wise, when configured with iproute, one has to wonder why ifconfig & friends are still around after a decade.
[16:47] <Javico> Chicos , tengo hambre , Alguna idea de que comer ? c:
[16:47] <rookie_> installed ubuntu but internet doesnt work
[16:48] <hitsujiTMO> yacc_: i wouldn't consider it overkill. I'd never do such experimenting on my dev box. I always use a vm for such toying around
[16:48] <Javico> I have Xubuntu , and My Drivers Doesnt Work >:c
[16:48] <rookie_> anyone?
[16:48] <sm_> I need help with: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/685fab5afa13550599d8
[16:48] <Javico> Connect the internet Bro :B
[16:49] <fer755> yacc_ i cant uninstall avahi and make my net working whit "that" friends.
[16:49] <rookie_> i connected the ethernet but doesnt work eithr
[16:50] <yacc_> hitsujiTMO, well, it depends what you want, anyway, for switching to different IP addresses depending upon destination veth worked fine enough ;)
[16:51] <yacc_> And I have to admit that I was slightly tempted to DoS the DHCP server just for the fun of it, ...
[16:51] <sm_> yacc_: Which DHCP server? :D
[16:51] <sm_> Your ISP?
[16:51] <rookie_> anyone?
[16:51] <sm_> rookie_: ?
[16:52] <rookie_> wireless card isnt working after installed ubuntu
[16:52] <yacc_> sm_, office DHCP server, to see if the guys are clever enough to figure out which port caused the pain ;)
[16:52] <sm_> rookie_: External or integraded?
[16:52] <sm_> yacc_: :D
[16:52] <rookie_> neither
[16:53] <sm_> rookie_: Then what?
[16:53] <rookie_> wireless and ethernet
[16:53] <sm_> rookie_: Hooked up with what?
[16:53] <rookie_> ethernet cable
[16:53] <sm_> USB, Integraded cards?
[16:53] <rookie_> yes sorry integrated
[16:54] <rookie_> worked fine before ubuntu
[16:54] <sm_> rookie_: Try executing this command on the machine in question: lspci
[16:54] <sm_> Does it show up any network related things?
[16:55] <rookie_> something about broadcom corporation
[16:56] <hitsujiTMO> !bcm | rookie_
[16:56] <sm_> What about: ifconfig?
[16:57] <rookie_> let me try the link
[16:57] <sm_> Okey.
[16:57] <yacc_> sm_, actually the experiment had a valid background, if I post on the internal "anonymous" "feedback to the Board" forum, I prefer to do it from a mac address that is nowhere in the IT databases ;)
[16:58] <sm_> yacc_: I'm not sure why you pinged me on that message...
[16:58] <yacc_> sm_, you asked what DHCP server :-P
[16:59] <sm_> yacc_: Oh, for that. :)
[16:59] <yacc_> sm_, so there are very practically use cases for just wanting to run a PC with two different mac addresses on one physical eth device ;)
[16:59] <sm_> Indeed.
[17:01] <master_op> hello, please help, my ubuntu 13.04 connection is very slow using chrome, firefox, opera
[17:01] <fer755> yacc_ eth devices what is this?
[17:02] <fer755> yacc_ eth0 ? that reference?
[17:02] <spearhead_> Fer755, ethernet device
[17:03] <fer755> spearhead_ a ok!
[17:04] <rookie_> didnt work says unable to locate firmwareb43 installer'
[17:04] <yacc_> fer755, eth devices as in "Ethernet devices", and yes, their default names in Linux are ethN. Using udev (which internally uses iproute btw to do the work) one can also rename them.
[17:05] <yacc_> fer755, so on my box, I've got a "wan" device, a "lan" bridge that by default consists of the "laneth" device, and so on ;)
[17:06] <nick_swe> Hi! I tried installing ElementaryOS on my Windows Surface Pro tablet this morning and during installation it prompted that GRUB failed to install, then the installation aborted automatically and I was forwarded to the Live desktop. After rebooting I am now only reaching the GRUB Minimal BASH-like command line. On the PC I also have Windows 8 that I really need to get in to. How to solve this?
[17:06] <nick_swe> Also, I have a Ubuntu Live USB but the PC ignores it completely during boot and directly goes in to the GRUB command line. I am completely lost here
[17:06] <spearhead_> Fer755, you can see all your network connections and their names by typing ifconfig -a in a terminal
[17:06] <fer755> yacc_ like mine is on erp1leOO
[17:07] <yacc_> fer755, interesting name ;)
[17:08] <ekristen> why doesn’t dpkg-buildpackge download build dependencies?
[17:08] <fer755> yacc_ can be any name or no?
[17:08] <un4v0w3d> Anyone willing to help me, I installed xubuntu to an external hard disk's partition. Install reports no errors, yet never seems to boot. Not sure where I need to start diagnostics. Also not sure what info you would like IE partition table GPT, file system ext4, mounted to /
[17:08] <sm_> My problem: https://gist.github.com/samip5/9855e10bb99269475b04
[17:09] <yacc_> fer755, yeah, you can rename them, but MOST drivers name them by default ethN. The next second biggest group would be probably wlanN, and nowadays with Android tethering, I guess usbN is getting popular, ...
[17:09] <fer755> spearhead_ uhh i guessing like may have done some avahi -a to do that
[17:10] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: Sounds like you need to set your firmware's boot order (or use a on-time boot option) to boot the external disk, but I don't know what your hardware is.
[17:10] <yacc_> robinmholt, some MS Surface Pro tablet, ...
[17:10] <yacc_> Just a lucky guess, ...
[17:10] <fer755> spearhead no sense. ironic comment the last.
[17:11] <yacc_> robinmholt,  No sorry, seems to be different people ;(
[17:11] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, boot order is USB, CD, HD. I have a thumb drive with xubuntu that does boot USB.
[17:11] <robinmholt> yacc_: I was staying away from the Surface discussion.  Never even touched one of those.
[17:12] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: Who manufactured the device?  What model is it?
[17:12] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, re: on-time boot option... do you mean like pressing f12 to manually select USB boot option?
[17:12] <spearhead_> Robinmholt, I never want to touch one...
[17:12] <Richhh> possible to change default terminal window size in lubuntu?
[17:13] <Richhh> (would prefer smaller)
[17:13] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: Yes, for mine, when an eSATA device is plugged in, I press F10 and select that device as the boot device.
[17:13] <yacc_> robinmholt, the whole UEFI & Secureboot thing stinks, especially as manufacturers start to get slightly sloppy sometimes, ...
[17:13] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, Toshiba Satellite C650
[17:13] <kostkon> Richhh, create a new profile and set it as the default or edit the default profile
[17:13] <kostkon> Richhh, oh... lubuntu..
[17:14] <Richhh> yeah
[17:14] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, I did try pressing f12 which beings me to the boot option menu, however selecting USB still does not work. It just bypasses and goes to windows on the internal hard disk
[17:14] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: How is the external drive attached?  USB?
[17:15] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, Yes
[17:15] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, USB
[17:15] <kostkon> Richhh, edit its desktop file, set the --geometry option http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/en/man1/lxterminal.1.html
[17:16] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: OK.  Does the device support legacy boot or UEFI only?
[17:17] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, As far as I can tell it should support UEFI, there is a UEFI folder in the windows boot folder. Exact path I would have to dig up again
[17:17] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: As a first guess, you have a legacy boot loader installed and a BIOS trying to boot UEFI (or vice versa).  Try switching the BIOS setup from UEFI to CSM or vice-versa and see if that works.
[17:18] <yangm_> any tips on using Ubuntu on a slow HD?
[17:18] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: This thread of discussion might be helpful.  http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/64755-63-toshiba-satellite-boot
[17:18] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, Okay, I'll go give that a shot. Thanks!
[17:18] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, I'll check it out also, thank you!
[17:19] <fer755> yangm_ how RAM u have?
[17:19] <fico> dikkk
[17:19] <fico> seggarc
[17:19] <yangm_> fer755: 8GB
[17:20] <yangm_> already disabled swap but I still get lots of grey screens
[17:20] <Richhh> kostkon: how can i make that work for C-Alt-T?
[17:20] <yangm_> is it possible to load the whole system in RAM?
[17:20] <fer755> yangm_ uhmm may be a mount of image on ram can work , but dunno if 8G its enought.
[17:21] <yangm_> fer755: my HD has 8GB also
[17:21] <kostkon> Richhh, no idea. you have tested it already and didn't work?
[17:21] <goingtologic> Should ubuntu automatically set a nic at 1000 speed if its capable? Or do I need to explicitly run ethtool?
[17:22] <fer755> yangm_ dunno how, but i know u can.
[17:23] <spearhead_> Goingtologic, the speed is set by the nic and it will automatically be set to the speed of the slowest device on the network
[17:23] <yangm_> fer755: my machine is a 2011 13" MacBook Pro which I'using a usb-installed ubuntu on a flashdrive because my internal sata cable broke and I was tired of carrying the HD and 1000 cables around
[17:24] <goingtologic> spearhead_: By network do you mean either side of the link?
[17:24] <goingtologic> I dont think ot probes the netire subnet for the slowest device
[17:25] <spearhead_> Goingtologic,  yes it does
[17:25] <fer755> yangm_ flashdrive is slow?
[17:26] <spearhead_> Goingtologic,  slowest device on the subnet sets the speed that subnet operates on
[17:26] <ActionPa1snip> yangm_: could replace the sata cable....
[17:26] <gerrym12> ciao a tutti
[17:26] <yangm_> fer755: i think it is the main root of this non responsiveness, it have 15MB read speed
[17:27] <gpicchiarelli> gerrym12: ciao, questo è il gruppo inglese suppongo (english)
[17:27] <yangm_> ActionPa1snip: yeah, if apple didn't make it proprietary and expensive
[17:27] <ActionPa1snip> yangm_: well, you bought a mac didn't you....
[17:28] <yangm_> ActionPa1snip: hey I'm not made of money
[17:28] <ActionPa1snip> yangm_: you bought a mac, you must be
[17:28] <yangm_> and no, I didn't bought it, a friend gave it to me
[17:29] <fer755> yangm_ aa ok usb stick drive. damn even cell phones now has sun disks pretty sad.
[17:30] <fer755> yangm_ all tech advanced and stucked in slow hdds
[17:30] <goingtologic> spearhead_: Where is the documentation for this?
[17:30] <yangm_> fer755: mine is from a generic manufacter, don't know how it even works xD
[17:31] <fer755> yangm_ u cant buy and replace your broken hhd?
[17:31] <fer755> *hdd
[17:32] <yangm_> fer755: my hdd is not broken, the mobo sata cable is
[17:32] <yangm_> also I can't find it anywhere where I live, I think I will need to ebay it...
[17:33] <sharif> need my ubuntu laptop bug commend
[17:34] <sharif> need my ubuntu laptop bug commend
[17:34] <sharif> help me
[17:35] <spearhead_> Goingtologic,  http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonegotiation
[17:35] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, I do not have any option like that in my bios.
[17:35] <sharif> need my ubuntu laptop bug commend
[17:37] <spearhead_> !details | sharif
[17:37] <spearhead_> !patience | sharif
[17:37] <steve_fi> is there any way for me when I boot from the liveusb to save the debug file when I put drm.debug=0xe into grub?
[17:37] <Richhh> kostkon: yeah, didnt work for the shortcut, never mind thanks anyway
[17:37] <kostkon> Richhh, ok
[17:38] <hitsujiTMO> !ubuntu-bd | maybe try here if your english isn't very good
[17:39] <hitsujiTMO> !bd | sharif maybe try here if your english isn't very good
[17:40] <belgianguy> is there a way to alter the systray's date format without changing the valuta, too? (through Language Support)
[17:41] <belgianguy> it seems Numbers, Dates and Valuta are dependent on one setting
[17:42] <neglesaks> someone tell Maxuma to stop spamming users on join
[17:43] <yangm_> is there something like task manager in ubuntu?
[17:43] <tr0n> use rop
[17:43] <tr0n> top
[17:43] <hitsujiTMO> neglesaks: what spam is it?
[17:43] <spearhead_> Goingtologic, does that make sense?
[17:43] <neglesaks> quoting : " <Maxuma> */server irc bahane net "
[17:44] <fer755> yangm_ ps -A
[17:44] <belgianguy> yangm_: htop
[17:44] <fer755> yangm_ and kill task numbre
[17:44] <streulma> have a few questions, may I ask?
[17:44] <merandus> Hello. Is it possible to install the needed packages of a specific package, without installing the package itself? I want to download the latest version myself, the stable version is very old. but it has more than 20 needed packages which apt-get can install them.
[17:44] <hitsujiTMO> neglesaks: report in #ubuntu-ops
[17:45] <spearhead_> !ask | streulma
[17:45] <fer755> *number
[17:46] <apb1963> is it safe to remove pulse audio?
[17:46] <yangm_> did top and then killall the proccess name, thanks for everyone who helped me out
[17:46] <streulma> I'm a little bit new to Ubuntu desktop, did not know which programs to use, I'm looking for an alternative to my Apple
[17:46] <tr0n> try macbuntu
[17:46] <gordonjcp> streulma: apple what?
[17:46] <spearhead_> Streulma, what are you trying to do?
[17:46] <streulma> Is there a way to install some Windows fonts? and apply them  to firefox?
[17:47] <streulma> so Facebook looks like Windows or Apple font
[17:47] <spearhead_> !fonts
[17:48] <streulma> also do not know what to install, Ubuntu 12.04 or 13.10
[17:48] <tr0n> 13.10
[17:48] <belgianguy> any idea on systray date formatting without also altering the valuta/number formatting in Ubuntu?
[17:48] <streulma> tr0n, 13.10, for a few months to go :)
[17:48] <hitsujiTMO> streulma: eith at this stage as you will most likely want to upgrade to 14.04 in 3 months
[17:49] <streulma> or install trusty desktop daily build ?
[17:49] <streulma> I'm looking for a stable one
[17:49] <streulma> yes trusty is not stable now ;)
[17:49] <spearhead_> 13.10 is the latest stable version
[17:49] <gordonjcp> streulma: if you want stable, go for LTS
[17:50] <gordonjcp> that's *really* stable, and will remain so
[17:50] <hitsujiTMO> belgianguy: System Settings -> Date + Time Settings -> clock
[17:51] <spearhead_> Streulma, like gordonjcp said if you want really stable go with 12.04 it will be supported for another 3 years
[17:51] <Maxuma> [ U y a r ý ] : spearhead_  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim...
[17:51] <tr0n> !english
[17:52] <streulma> spearhead_: yes, but is 13.10 not stable with more features ?
[17:53] <streulma> should I disable hud internet search ?
[17:53] <tr0n> the ads? yea
[17:54] <streulma> tr0n how, in system settings?
[17:54] <streulma> then I have another question, should I partition, 8 Swap, 30 / and rest /home ?
[17:54] <spearhead_> Streulma, the end user won't be able to tell too much of a difference... If you want 13.10 then install it it is stable then I would suggest upgrading to 14.04 when it comes out. 14.04 is the next long term support release
[17:55] <streulma> then another question, in English or my own language?
[17:55] <tr0n> fixubuntu.com has the command
[17:55] <Myrtti> stable
[17:56] <tr0n> english
[17:56] <gion> ciao
[17:56] <Korvin> How can I update my sources to use osuosl only?
[17:56] <robinmholt> un4v0w3d: I don't have many more guesses.  Sorry.
[17:56] <Korvin> from cli
[17:56] <spearhead_> Streulma,  I would suggest about 200mb partition for  /boot, 2 gb for swap, 30 gb for / and the rest for /home
[17:57] <un4v0w3d> robinmholt, thanks
[17:58] <streulma> thanks tr0n for fixubuntu
[17:58] <tr0n> np
[17:58] <spearhead_> Streulma, you can change the language http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/local-language
[18:04] <ClientAlive> I installed mysql to a different port than the default and now I can't remember what port that was. How can I find out?
[18:05] <spearhead_> Nmap the server's ip
[18:05] <fer755> ClientAlive read in config file under /etc/mysql.conf i guess
[18:05] <streulma> ClientAlive: /etc/mysql/my.cnf ?
[18:05] <robinmholt> ClientAlive: check /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[18:05] <hitsujiTMO> ClientAlive: cat /etc/mysql/my.cnf | grep port
[18:05] <robinmholt> ClientAlive: You can also look at netstat -anp | grep mysql
[18:05] <ClientAlive> sweet!
[18:05] <ClientAlive> thx
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> can't      lsof -i             see that?
[18:07] <Pici> robinmholt: you'd need sudo for the netstat command :)
[18:10] <wachpwnski> I keep getting this? cp: failed to extend `/tmp/mkinitramfs_gTYCR4//lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libuuid.so.1': No space left on device
[18:10] <wachpwnski> why is it trying to put it in tmp?
[18:10] <fer755> MonkeyDust miss one parameter 4 or 6 lsof -i x
[18:10] <wachpwnski> When I try to apt-get install
[18:11] <spearhead_> Wachpwnski, how full is your drive?
[18:11] <belgianguy> hitsujiTMO: Hi, in there I cannot find a way to switch eg MM DD to DD MM
[18:11] <_KaszpiR_> wachpwnski df -h
[18:11] <belgianguy> (date format change)
[18:12] <wachpwnski> i have free space 4 gigs now
[18:12] <wachpwnski> but /tmp only has 1.0M for some reason
[18:12] <wachpwnski> should I reboot maybe?
[18:12] <_KaszpiR_> no
[18:12] <_KaszpiR_> run this
[18:12] <_KaszpiR_> du -sh /tmp
[18:12] <wachpwnski> 1.0M	/tmp
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> belgianguy: i see. maybe try setting the locale ?
[18:13] <_KaszpiR_> df -h /tmp
[18:13] <spearhead_> _KaszpiR_, what does the du command do?
[18:13] <wachpwnski> overflow        1.0M  1.0M     0 100% /tmp
[18:13] <gimmic> disk usage
[18:13] <_KaszpiR_> spearhead disk usage
[18:13] <spearhead_> K thx
[18:13] <belgianguy> hitsujiTMO: It changes when I change the Language Support setting to a different language for Numbers,Date,Valuta
[18:13] <belgianguy> but I only want to change the date :/
[18:14] <wachpwnski> my drive was full I just cleaned it and free'd 4 gigs
[18:14] <CorySimmons> Hey guys, I'm new to Ubuntu and I'm trying to try out this script option, but I'm not exactly sure how to read the command's syntax docs located here: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/pstoedit.1.html
[18:14] <_KaszpiR_> wachpwnski show us: mount
[18:14] <gimmic> wachpwnski: what does df -h /tmp show?
[18:14] <_KaszpiR_> paste it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:14] <CorySimmons> Basically I want to run `pstoedit plot-svg my_file.ai my_file.svg`
[18:14] <gimmic> because it looks like it is mounted only as a 1MB tmp
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> belgianguy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Locale try setting the LANG and LANGUAGE as what they are now, but LC_DATE as whatever date format you prefer
[18:14] <gimmic> ah, yeah.. show mount
[18:15] <wachpwnski> http://pastebin.com/Yk8SpPL1
[18:15] <wachpwnski> probably because my disk was full on startup :/
[18:15] <_KaszpiR_> ah
[18:15] <belgianguy> hitsujiTMO: ah, that looks like what I need! Thank you!
[18:15] <_KaszpiR_> no, your tmp is a tmpfs
[18:15] <_KaszpiR_> change mount point, then
[18:16] <_KaszpiR_> show us: cat /etc/fstab
[18:16] <andreric> Hi! How to download files of a website that starts with the same string using terminal?
[18:17] <tr0n> wget
[18:17] <wachpwnski> _KaszpiR_:  one second
[18:17] <_KaszpiR_> second passed
[18:17] <_KaszpiR_> nest!
[18:17] <_KaszpiR_> *nest!
[18:17] <wachpwnski> next!
[18:17] <_KaszpiR_> baaaah, joke failed
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> wachpwnski: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/fstab
[18:17] <wachpwnski> hitsujiTMO: can't install anything disk full it was saying
[18:18] <_KaszpiR_> ;D
[18:18] <_KaszpiR_> yep
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> wachpwnski: ahh :P
[18:18] <andreric> Ok <tr0n>. But and I try wget appears 403 Forbidden
[18:19] <_KaszpiR_> andreric it may be blocked because user agens or you are missing a cookie
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> andreric: if you get a 404 then that site doens't allow hotlinks. you prob need to specificy a user agent or refferrer
[18:20] <jacob_> does anyone know if there is a working alternative to flash player?
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> or 403 i should say
[18:20] <hitsujiTMO> jacob_: chromes pepper flash player
[18:20] <tr0n> theres flash for linux/ubuntu
[18:21] <knightshade> jacob_: html5
[18:21] <knightshade> jacob_: html5
[18:21] <andreric> Ok <hitsujiTMO>. And how I do this?
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> andreric:  --user-agent= for user agent and --referer= for refferer
[18:22] <iceroot> jacob_: gnash
[18:23] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. i have a 2tb drive on which i store my music; so far i only use a 500GB partition - but this is getting full. are there any serious pros/cons re: expanding the current partition or creating a second 500GB (for example) partition on the same drive  to add more music?
[18:23] <buklau> hello everyone, i need to update my driver, i downloaded a .tar.bz2, how do i build and install this?
[18:23] <gion> list !
[18:24] <gmachine_24> buklau what is the driver for
[18:25] <hitsujiTMO> buklau: untar it and then read the README
[18:25] <buklau> gmachine_24, its for my wifi card, it keeps disconnecting and i downloaded the latest version from the realtek website'
[18:25] <hitsujiTMO> gmachine_24: wat type of filesystem is it?
[18:25] <gmachine_24> hitsujiTMO: well......... either ext3 or ext4
[18:26] <buklau> gmachine_24, it keeps disconnecting from the wifi**
[18:26] <hitsujiTMO> gmachine_24: expand away. should be no issue
[18:26] <gion> arrivederci
[18:26] <buklau> hitsujiTMO, i dont know how to do that
[18:27] <hitsujiTMO> buklau: tar -xf driver.tar.bz2
[18:28] <gmachine_24>
[18:28] <gmachine_24> To unzip a file that is only compressed with bz2 use
[18:28] <gmachine_24> bunzip2 filename.bz2
[18:28] <gmachine_24> to unzip things thar are compressed with .tar.bz2 use
[18:28] <FloodBot1> gmachine_24: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <buklau> hitsujiTMO, tar: r8101-1.024.00.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[18:28] <buklau> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[18:29] <austinchilders> Hello! I am having trouble getting good transfer speeds over my gigabit LAN. When copying files with either Samba or NFS the file transfer maxes out at 8.5 MB/s yet when i test the network with iperf i am getting speeds of 940 Mb/s and the hard drive is not the problem because i have internal transfer speeds of ~150 MB/s on my server. Any help is appreciated, I'm running out of ideas.
[18:29] <gmachine_24> austinchilders: are you cutting and pasting or using the command line........
[18:30] <austinchilders> cutting and pasting
[18:30] <hitsujiTMO> buklau: are you in the same folder as the archive?
[18:30] <gmachine_24> austinchilders: I use the command line. Infinitely faster.
[18:30] <gmachine_24> and I apologize for my bot flood thing; rookie error on my part
[18:30] <buklau> hitsujiTMO, tar -xf r8101-1.024.00.tar.bz2, thats all i ran, am i supposed to use cd /home/documents/downloads then run it?
[18:31] <austinchilders> i didn't think it would make that big of a difference, and I need for non technical people to be able to access files on my sever
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> buklau: cd Downloads
[18:31] <gmachine_24> buklau: to run that you must be in the correct directory
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> buklau: then run it
[18:31] <buklau> hitsujiTMO, gmachine_24 , will do
[18:31] <gmachine_24> hitsujiTMO: ... didn't mean to step on your toes
[18:31] <hitsujiTMO> gmachine_24: :P np
[18:32] <gmachine_24> austinchilders: I don't pretend to know WHY it makes a difference but, for me at least, the difference is .. big
[18:33] <buklau> hitsujiTMO, i didnt do anything, it just put me to the next libe
[18:33] <sergio-br2> hello
[18:33] <buklau> hitsujiTMO, no wait it made another folder
[18:33] <gmachine_24> buklau: did you try tar -xvjpf filename.tar.bz2
[18:34] <gmachine_24> sergio-br2: state your business
[18:34] <sergio-br2> someone, how can i reset xorg files? I installed nvidia driver, got a problem, purge it, and now i can't go to login screen. Command startx does not work too
[18:35] <buklau> gmachine_24,  yea the first one worked, it just made a folder without tar , what do i do after?
[18:35] <Mantissa> Has anyone got the latest catalyst 13.11 beta 9.4 driver working? Everyone had problems installing it on it's initial release.
[18:35] <sakter12> anyone here use a Wacom tablet + Ubuntu?
[18:36] <hitsujiTMO> sergio-br2: if you're not using proprietary drivers then just delete the xorg.conf
[18:36] <longshorej> I have /dev/disk2 mounted at /mnt/example, and /dev/disk1 mounted at /. Can I list the contents of /mnt/example as it would exist if /dev/disk2 weren't mounted over it, without unmounting /dev/disk2?
[18:37] <wachpwnski> _KaszpiR_ ok fixed it with a reboot
[18:38] <shreezbot> Anyone know if there is a way to stream a DVD from a Linux box to a media player like the Roku?
[18:38] <wachpwnski> is there something like iobar for linux cli?
[18:39] <wachpwnski> i know there is iostat, but anything visual?
[18:39] <hitsujiTMO> longshorej: can you rephrase the question
[18:40] <_KaszpiR_> wachpwnski iotop, but its just text, no bars
[18:40] <hitsujiTMO> longshorej: or do you mean can you list the mount moint?
[18:40] <streulma> how can I make an USB stick so it boots on Macbook ?
[18:40] <Maxuma> [ U y a r ý ] : streulma  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim...
[18:40] <longshorej> mounting a disk over an existing directory, is there any way to access the contents of the directory I mounted over without unmounting the new disk?
[18:41] <hitsujiTMO> longshorej: that i don't know, or think is possible
[18:42] <hitsujiTMO> longshorej: you prob could if the orinal dir was hard linked or bound somewhere else
[18:42] <longshorej> hitsujiTMO: Ah, I can mount the original disk to another point to do this
[18:42] <StevenXL> Hi everyone. I am trying to add a permanent alias to my bash profile, but it doesn't seem to load. I have edited .bashrc so that it loads a .bash_aliases file, and I have included the aliases I want in that file.
[18:42] <Maxuma> [ U y a r ý ] : StevenXL  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim...
[18:42] <StevenXL> Am I missing something?
[18:43] <hitsujiTMO> StevenXL: how are you loading the .bash_aliases
[18:43] <gmachine_24> shreezbot: do you want to know about any media player or Roku specifically..........
[18:43] <guest______> I have multiple users on my computer, with one user having sudo priveledges. How can I backup everyone's home directory and have permissions to restore each file?
[18:43] <shreezbot> gmachine_24, Well, I'm personally working with a Roku...  :)
[18:43] <StevenXL> hitsujiTMO, I am just typing in lxterminal into the run dialog (F2)
[18:44] <guest______> I tried to backup with deja dup all home directories with the administrator, but I can't restore the files as it says that I don't have permissions.
[18:44] <Maxuma> [ U y a r ý ] : guest______  : Lütfen Seviyeyi Düþürmeyiniz Aksi Taktirde Kanaldan Uzaklaþtýrýlýcaksýnýz !.iyi sohbetler dilerim...
[18:44] <hitsujiTMO> StevenXL: but how exactly are you calling .bash_aliases ???
[18:45] <StevenXL> this is what my .bash_aliases file contains: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6716372/
[18:45] <hitsujiTMO> StevenXL: or are you even callint it at all?
[18:45] <StevenXL> hitsujiTMO, this is what .bashrc contains: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6716383/
[18:46] <StevenXL> hitsujiTMO, I am calling it using what was the default in the .bashrc file. I actually didn't edit the .bashrc file at all.
[18:48] <buklau> how do u unload your old driver?
[18:49] <StevenXL> hitsujiTMO, I have to go; sorry.
[18:49] <StevenXL> exit
[18:50] <gmachine_24> shreezbot: I have a Roku and I don't know how to do anything other than stream from a Windows media server and I have Linux servers as well. My biggest problem with Roku is the small number of formats that it is conpatible with - but that's another story.
[18:50] <buklau> how do i unload my old driver?
[18:50] <andreric> How to configure wget to do not remove rejected files?
[18:51] <shreezbot> gmachine_24, Right now I pretty much just use Ples Media Server, and it seems to work really well for me.  I currently have a HTPC that I use for streaming video and playing DVDs, but I'm hoping to get rid of that PC.  If I could stream a DVD to the Roku, I could do just that...
[18:52] <gmachine_24> shreezbot: Chromecast has the same limitations. Someone will either add support for other codes to existing boxes or come up with a hack for it; re-encoding videos is boring.
[18:53] <shreezbot> gmachine_24, Indeed it is!  :)
[18:53] <buklemickbuk> how do i unload driver?
[18:53] <knightshade> longshorej: you can use mount --bind to mount the underlying filesystem a second time
[18:53] <gmachine_24> buklau, can you past the link to the Web site where you downloaded the bz2 file please?
[18:53] <gmachine_24> *paste
[18:53] <buklemickbuk> gmachine_24,  k
[18:54] <gmachine_24> buklemickbuk: are you buklau?
[18:54] <buklemickbuk> gmachine_24, yes
[18:55] <buklemickbuk> gmachine_24, and here is your link. http://www.realtek.com.tw/DOWNLOADS/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=14&PFid=7&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[18:55]  * henry___ is away: Ich bin beschäftigt
[18:56] <aditya> Hi... Can someone give some opinion on this bug... Who is the proper person to whom I can notify about it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-monitor/+bug/1241894
[18:57] <gmachine_24> shreezbot: have you tried roku forums? I'd check there if you haven't.
[18:57] <shreezbot> Yea, I've made a post on the reddit forums for Roku
[18:57] <daftykins> lol reddit
[18:59] <knightshade> aditya: Mark Shuttleworth.
[19:00] <buklemickbuk> gmachine_24, any suggestions?
[19:00] <aditya> knightshade: haha.. anyone else... I don't want to disturb him for this... Let him achieve the objective of convergence.. :)
[19:02] <gmachine_24> buklemickbuk: we should talk about this through irc's private msgs or whatever you call them
[19:04] <trism> aditya: do you see any errors if you run it from the command line? I'm seeing the graph/values updating here
[19:05] <hitsujiTMO> aditya: the package maintainers will automatically get notified. no need to go finding them
[19:06] <aditya> trism: Ther is one warning
[19:06] <aditya> ** (gnome-system-monitor:3361): WARNING **: SELinux was found but is not enabled.
[19:07] <trism> aditya: yeah I get that too, so probably not an issue
[19:07] <aditya> hitsujiTMO: I had filed this bug more than 2 months ago - haven't heard anything from them..
[19:11] <enen92> very noob question. I've build openssl from sources to a specific directory. How can I run openssl from that directory instead of the one I've installed in the system?
[19:13]  * henry___ is back (gone 00:17:50)
[19:13] <andreric> Hi! How to configure wget to do not remove rejected files?
 He is saving files but removing them because them are being rejected. But I want to acess information offered by these files that are being deleted.
[19:14] <andreric> Hi! How to configure wget to do not remove rejected files? He is saving files but removing them because them are being rejected. But I want to acess information offered by these files that are being deleted.
[19:15] <rickayla> hey
[19:16] <spearhead_> !patience | andreric
[19:16] <rickayla> max sendq haw
[19:16] <rickayla> who ropa
[19:17] <rickayla> vhnfcj
[19:17] <rickayla> hgfvyjfd
[19:17] <rickayla> gkjfgfdvxc
[19:17] <rickayla> bhfvr
[19:17] <rickayla> jbgvhfdrt
[19:17] <FloodBot1> rickayla: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
 <ubottu>. I was just correting the text formatting of my question.
[19:19] <spearhead_> Andreric, I understand, but all the information was in the original, no need to repeat yourself
[19:19] <gdeeble> I compiled mediatomb to include spider monkey, but now I can't get it to boot with the system. Anyone have a tutorial I can look at to get this fixed?
[19:20] <ikonia> gdeeble: boot with the system ?
[19:22] <gdeeble> ikonia: Sorry start up at boot. I'm running a headless server and would prefer that I don't have to log in to launch it if I shutdown/restart for some reason.
[19:23] <ikonia> gdeeble: how have you set it to start up at boot
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> gdeeble: download the src from the repo. have a look at the sysv init/upstart script in there
[19:24] <gdeeble> ikonia: I tried update-rc.d mediatomb defaults 99 and it shows in the RC but doesn't launch it
[19:24] <ikonia> gdeeble: yes, because YOU compiled it
[19:24] <ikonia> gdeeble: so that script will be for the packaged version
[19:24] <ikonia> gdeeble: so unless you compiled it exactly the same layout as the package it won't work
[19:24] <A_Paternoster> Hallo Ubuntu World :) I've a problem with newrez. When I try to set a new resolution (with the default resolution 1366x768 too), the screen lost its focus.... It is not clear... :( Can you help me ? Have you an idea ? Thanks :)
[19:26] <trijntje> why is skype sound so crappy on ubuntu?
[19:26] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: what sound driver?
[19:26] <tevez> ciao a tutti
[19:26] <hitsujiTMO> tevez: dont !list or i kill yoyu
[19:27] <tevez> !list
[19:27] <gdeeble> ikonia: I'm still new with this stuff, so what you're saying is the init.d file isn't correct?
[19:27] <tevez> ciao a tutti
[19:27] <ikonia> gdeeble: init.d isn't used, ubuntu uses upstart
[19:27] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: no idea, just ubuntu default
[19:27] <tevez> !list
[19:28] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: as in what sound driver is your sound card using?
[19:28] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: how can I tell?
[19:29] <spearhead_> Andreric, also I called the bot so it would give you the links to the forum and help pages also man wget would give you more information than I can...
[19:29] <tevez> cioa
[19:29] <tevez> ciao
[19:29] <ikonia> tevez: sorry you can't talk in the channel anymore
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: lspci -knn | grep Audio -A3
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> TriJetScud: should list the kernel driver there
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: ^
[19:31] <gdeeble> ikonia: Ok. So at this point i'm really confused then. What are you recommending?
[19:31] <ikonia> gdeeble: write a valid upstart job
[19:31] <ikonia> gdeeble: use the existing one as a template
[19:31] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: snd_hda_intel
[19:32] <gdeeble> ikonia: I'll check into that from here and get back with you on this. Thank you.
[19:33] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: think its an issue with the driver and pulseaudio. 2 secs and i'll see if i can find what i did to fix it for myself
[19:34] <GNABBBbB> Hey there! I want to use Pulseaudio over upnp/dlna. I have installed rygel and enabled sharing in paprefs, I also manually started rygel because of the autostart bug. I still cant see the service. Next problem is the firewall: What do I need to allow in iptables for using rygel?
[19:37] <GNABBBbB> hitsujiTMO: whose and which question did you answer? because I spent a lot of time punching pulseaudio around today.
[19:37] <rostam> HI for 12.04 update 3, I need to get vmlinux with debug info and Linux source tree. I want to use it for jtag debugging. Do you know where I can get those? thx
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> GNABBBbB: : crappy sound in skype.
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: am i right in thinking thats its crackling noise?
[19:39] <m57> so does anyone know how to turn off ati Radeon graphics cards in ubuntu? i want to be able to switch them off and on with a command
[19:39] <m57> and just use onboard for display
[19:39] <jhutchins> m57: bumblebee
[19:39] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: no, its just skipping all the time, words only come trough partly
[19:39] <jp-_> is there a way to specify the metric for a gateway in the interfaces file?
[19:39] <m57> iv heard of this before but heard it was a hack ?
[19:40] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change the current sent print job's pritner? I want to change it from a real printer to 'print to a file'
[19:40] <GNABBBbB> hitsujiTMO: glad I never used skype.
[19:40] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: ok, maybe a different issue than what i experienced then. that sounds more like a bandwidth issue then. I presume you've tried it with another OS?
[19:41] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: also, did you install from the repo or direct from skype site?
[19:42] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: from the repo
[19:44] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change the current sent print job's pritner? I want to change it from a real printer to 'print to a file'
[19:46] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: skype works in windows vista on the same pc, though vista is so crappy that i can only use it for a couple of minutes before the pc looses all sound and I have to reboot
[19:46] <PublicStaticVoid> I installed Cinnamon and it doesnt really work, I get no menus or anything.. anyways when I go back to Unity.. I have desktop Icons for "Computer" and such, how do i get rid of them again?
[19:48] <hitsujiTMO> trijntje: must be an issue with the codec it using so. must not be able to optimally decode on your system. is it spouting any info if you run it from the terminal?
[19:49] <trijntje> hitsujiTMO: I'm not sure whats wrong, everything works fine with skypes own 'test call'.
[19:50] <trijntje> I guess I should just switch to some FOSS alternative for skype, rather then waste my time with it
[19:50] <hitsujiTMO> prob whats best
[19:50] <PublicStaticVoid> Wish I could get Cinnamon to work
[19:51] <PublicStaticVoid> I hate Unity
[19:51] <PublicStaticVoid> When I try using Cinnamon its just loads my background and Desktop Icons
[19:51] <Twnprncss> hello everyone
[19:51] <Allison43> jp, yes, gateway gateway 192.168.X.X
[19:51] <Allison43> err just one gateway
[19:52] <Twnprncss> I am hoping to find some help setting up access to vpn while ssh'ing into a system
[19:52] <Twnprncss> I am not sure how to use command line to configure inet access to route through the vpn
[19:56] <trijntje> PublicStaticVoid: see, unity is better than cinnamon ;) But seriously, have you looked at alternatives such as lubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu?
[19:56] <glitsj16> hi people
[19:56] <HellTiger_> hello, i wana have a ubuntu usb stick, can i just use a live creator to usb? will a live ubuntu reset changes even if they made to usb filesystem?
[19:57] <xangua> !persistent  | HellTiger_
[19:57] <HellTiger_> thx!
[19:57] <euclidis> HellTiger_: Yes. I suppose, it cannot be saved anything.
[19:58] <HellTiger_> oh
[19:59] <euclidis> come back to hell, tiger. (kidding)
[19:59] <streulma> oh, that was a bad harddisk :) Ubuntu found it bad, osx not. problem solved with new ssd
[19:59] <compdoc> SSD makes it seem like a new PC
[20:01] <Jogibaer> HellTiger: use UNetbootin
[20:02] <lazarus_> anybody know of any company's within the UK that sell the ubuntu laptop/desktop
[20:02] <hitsujiTMO> hey glitsj16
[20:03] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: good news, i got the raid working and everything, only problem is the eth0 card but the guys on here last night told me to get anothe 15$ card to diagnose the problems next time
[20:03] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: hi there
[20:03] <Jogibaer> lazarus_: Dell used to sell laptops with ubuntu
[20:03] <Pici> lazarus_: If you don't get an answer here, you might want to ask in #ubuntu-uk
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sweet
[20:04] <lazarus_> Pici: i really like system76 but import fees kill the viability
[20:04] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: dell still do on business range
[20:05] <hitsujiTMO> lazarus_: http://www.dell.com/uk/business/p/xps-13-linux/pd
[20:06] <Mindkontrol> Hello everyone
[20:06] <HellTiger_> ok thx joako
[20:06] <Mindkontrol> I am hoping for help using command line to setup vpn
[20:06] <HellTiger_> Jogibaer: i mean
[20:06] <Mindkontrol> Any command line wizards here or can someone point me to better irc channel?
[20:07] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how can I change the current sent print job's pritner? I want to change it from a real printer to 'print to a file'
[20:07] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: it could simply be the case of blacklisting the currently used driver too.
[20:07] <PublicStaticVoid> trijntje: I do not like any of the DE/WM that those use..
[20:07] <PublicStaticVoid> I especialy hate KDE
[20:08] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: well i wll try it with you tomorrow, i delt with all this nonsense till two am last night I need one day of rest :) aha, but will you take the time with me next time when itws convinent for you and we will try that?
[20:08] <PublicStaticVoid> and Xubuntu is XFCE$ right?
[20:08] <PublicStaticVoid> 4
[20:08] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: I myself really like Unity, but there's also GNOME3, MATE, XFCE
[20:08] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sure
[20:08] <PublicStaticVoid> I do like XFCE's Terminal I swear by it
[20:08] <Psil0Cybin> all I know is the people on here hitsujiTMO suggested I get a 15$ card from walmart, to bring in as well so you guys can help me troubleshoot just incase its the hardware, they said the card I was using was garbage and not supported and had alot of bugs.
[20:08] <glitsj16> mojtaba: if you use cups there's cups-pdf you can use as well to print to pdf
[20:08] <Jogibaer> Mondkontrol: how can we help? :)
[20:08] <PublicStaticVoid> I do not like Mate, it seems like yet another Gnome 2 Fork
[20:08] <PublicStaticVoid> I like Cinamon
[20:09] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: the card is quite old alright. from 2008 at least.
[20:09] <PublicStaticVoid> Wish I could figure out why it won't work
[20:09] <mobileRoda> oh goodie i made it. someone gave me instructions last week on where to set nomodeset when installing 12.04 from disc,  can soneone give me same info?  im re- installng and none of the online tuts are helping
[20:09] <PublicStaticVoid> But have no idea how to troubleshoot it
[20:09] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: hang on
[20:09] <mojtaba> glitsj16: I have printed a file from browser to my printer, (but without my printer being available), now I want to change the printer via cmd
[20:09] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: perhaps just reinstall from ppa?
[20:09] <Mindkontrol> Jogibaer: I am trying to setup my machine to route all traffic through a vpn
[20:09] <Mindkontrol> Jogibaer: I have to use commandline for this as the box is headless
[20:09] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: gah! lol, what a silly experience, I delt with , just becasue It was bought recently. btw hitsujiTMO  as you can see when I am calm the enter key is the last thing on my mind lol, but why would they put a 2008 card into a brand new computer..gah maybe they did this on purpose because i complained
[20:09] <mojtaba> glitsj16: Also there were no option for print to file, when I initiated the print job.
[20:09] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: I tried that on 13.10 but I guess it is worth a try
[20:10] <Mindkontrol> Jogibaer: Not quite sure what i have to change where to get that to happen
[20:10] <PublicStaticVoid> should I do apt-remove Cianomon nemo --purge first?
[20:11] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: lol. well, it might be a "new" card, just old controller.
[20:11] <rrva> hi!. whats the best desktop to use for retina displays
[20:11] <Jogibaer> Mindkontrol: have looked into the man-pages of your vpn-program?
[20:11] <rrva> unity, xfce, gnome 3.10+ ?
[20:12] <Jogibaer> Mindkontrol: man <name_of_vpn_program>
[20:12] <mobileRoda> nomodeset help anyone? stuck installing 12.04 @  75% again. much appreciate, such wow
[20:12] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: well, maybe ppa-purge is a safer way
[20:12] <belgianguy> just to be sure no left-overs are left behind
[20:13] <PublicStaticVoid> I didnt use a pa to install..
[20:13] <PublicStaticVoid> not sure what ppa-purge is
[20:13] <PublicStaticVoid> too late now anyways haha
[20:13] <PublicStaticVoid> I just did apt-get remove cinnamon nemo aded the ppa then apt-get update
[20:14] <bekks> PublicStaticVoid: A tool for removing PPA and the packages that were installed from the PPA to be removed.
[20:14] <PublicStaticVoid> and now I will do apt-get install cinnamon nemo
[20:14] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: this article sates that Cinnamon should be fine now http://www.webupd8.org/2013/11/cinnamon-20-no-longer-breaks-unity-in.html
[20:14] <PublicStaticVoid> but I am 14.04
[20:14] <PublicStaticVoid> and it was broken when installed from repos
[20:14] <glitsj16> mojtaba: to get that option i guess you'll have to look at your CUPS setup via http://localhost:631, then you can use the cli command lpr (also look at lpstat to check defaults etc)
[20:14] <PublicStaticVoid> and it actually messed up my Unity haha
[20:15] <PublicStaticVoid> made my desktop show icons
[20:15] <PublicStaticVoid> gotta figure out how to undo that
[20:15] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: here's a more detailed article, including ppa-purge if it breaks down http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-New-Cinnamon-2-0-6-in-Ubuntu-13-10-and-Ubuntu-13-04-395101.shtml
[20:15] <PublicStaticVoid> But I dont want to use unity anyways
[20:15] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: Thanks
[20:15] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: how did it mess it up?
[20:16] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: It made it show Desktop Icons
[20:16] <PublicStaticVoid> in Unity
[20:16] <PublicStaticVoid> Unity soesnt show desktop icons by default..
[20:16] <PublicStaticVoid> doesnt
[20:16] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: I'd do the cleanup steps first in that article near the bottom
[20:16] <mobileRoda> no one has super spiffy one line answer on fixing 12.04 install like before? sorry to bother but im without an OS until i get it right again
[20:17] <belgianguy> oh nm, it wasn't installed from ppa right?
[20:17] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: That article is if you installed from PPA to begin with
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> PublicStaticVoid: #ubuntu+1 for 14.04 and you should report the cinnamon bugs so they get fixed for release
[20:17] <PublicStaticVoid> I didnt
[20:17] <PublicStaticVoid> hm
[20:17] <PublicStaticVoid> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:17] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: ohh, 14
[20:17] <PublicStaticVoid> Looks like they havent prepared for 14.04 yet
[20:17] <PublicStaticVoid> :(
[20:17] <belgianguy> .04, then please don't use that article, as it might totally break it
[20:18] <PublicStaticVoid> I cant use the Cinamon ppa either :(
[20:18] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: lol those guys at tiger direct in canada, are silly people they promissed they raided the system for linux, do u know what the issue was hitsujiTMO the bios was raided for windows! and UEFI was not working.
[20:18] <HellTiger> Jogibaer: will i run into any problems if i use lubuntu or xubuntu instead of ubuntu?
[20:18] <PublicStaticVoid> Unless I ca force it
[20:18] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: psu something helped me on here, to raid the system and removed all he crappy windows raided settings in the bios....what a nasty set up.
[20:19] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: wait until April 2014 (http://la-vache-libre.org/cubuntu-14-04-maintenant-sous-cinnamon-2/)
[20:19] <belgianguy> in French though
[20:19] <PublicStaticVoid> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[20:19] <PublicStaticVoid> ooops
[20:19] <PublicStaticVoid> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2184959
[20:19] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: I ended up finally getting the OS to boot, so at least last night was not a total waste, now once I get this network card working perfectly....I will be in amazing condition! but what ever, ill get the card tomorrow...and come into work just incase and ill try and diagnose it and fix it when I have everything I need to spend alot of time on it.
[20:19] <PublicStaticVoid> Seems there is hope
[20:20] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: but you guys and everyone here on Ubuntu are amazing, I have to say....what a phenominal community of people.
[20:20] <xup> Hi, is there any statistcs for ubuntu usage?
[20:20] <Jogibaer> HellTiger: I tried it only with ubuntu, but I'm confident that it works as well
[20:20] <xup> public ones...
[20:20] <euclidis> xup: Ubuntu's users can send it.
[20:20] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: if you want to try a 14.04 Cubuntu ISO: http://sourceforge.net/projects/cubuntu/files/
[20:21] <euclidis> kubuntu
[20:21] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: lol. i never bother with getting the vendors to set anything up for me. Even the routers at my old job I set up myself (vendors were looking for ~€1000/router to send someone out to do it), took me 4hrs to set the first one up and had the rest done by the end of the day
[20:21] <belgianguy> euclidis: no, really, with a C :) C for Cinnamon
[20:21] <xup> euclidis, where can I see it?
[20:21] <belgianguy> oh, oops
[20:22] <belgianguy> sorry euclidis
[20:22] <euclidis> I've installed kde desktop from ppa backports and it works properly.
[20:22] <euclidis> ok. I confused about it.
[20:22] <PublicStaticVoid> Actually that article seems to be about replacing nautilus with Nemo in Unity
[20:22] <bekks> kdefrom the official repos work fine, too :)
[20:22] <mobileRoda> halp me obie wan kenobi, you 're my only hope! stuck on 12.04 install on crappy intel integrated faptop
[20:22] <apb1963> debug info is missing for konversation is missing... how can I get that corrected?
[20:23] <hitsujiTMO> !details | mobileRoda
[20:23] <xxmate> hello, can anyone help me to change the color of top panel bar on unity?
[20:23] <bekks> apb1963: you would have to compile a version with full debug information.
[20:23] <hitsujiTMO> xxmate: that needs to be done in the theme itself afaik
[20:23] <jordan_> can someone give me the install terminal code for ubuntu
[20:23] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: No I have installed at least 14 fresh installs on this laptop since I bought it a week ago
[20:23] <PublicStaticVoid> No ore haha
[20:23] <bekks> jordan_: "insert livecd and follow the instructions".
[20:24] <xxmate> hitsujiTM0: oh what theme?
[20:24] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: you could put it on USB and just use the try mode I presume
[20:24] <euclidis> xup: In the menu, you can see 'privacy'. Enter and enable or disable according your preference.
[20:24] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: but as 14.04 is unstable itself, be prepared to fix all the time
[20:25] <belgianguy> as Cubuntu isn't even an official offshoot I reckon
[20:25] <HellTiger> hm for first boot of a live system, is it wise to keep a usbhub plugged? in the hub is mouse keyboard and usb ntfs harddrive
[20:25] <PublicStaticVoid> 14.04 has actually worked beter than anything I have tried
[20:25] <PublicStaticVoid> Since it has a newer kernel and better HW support
[20:25] <PublicStaticVoid> SInce my Laptop is brand new
[20:26] <mobileRoda> my problem is with installing 12.04 on Asus x55c laptop. I can get all tge way to installing system and it freezes install. i was goven a one line tip in here before that got it working, but i cant find it anywhere online.
[20:26] <PublicStaticVoid> I just want Cinnamon damn it
[20:26] <PublicStaticVoid> Cant believe the PPS wont work
[20:26] <PublicStaticVoid> PPA
[20:26] <hitsujiTMO> xxmate: Ambiance is the default theme. its in /usr/share/themes/   i'd recommend copying it to ~/.themes and modifying the copy if you want to play around with it
[20:26] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: take a look at those ISOs
[20:26] <belgianguy> the ppa probably doesn't know anything after saucy yet
[20:27] <PublicStaticVoid> Yeah, cant I force it to use saucy packages?
[20:27] <guest______> What program do you guys use to backup your home directories?
[20:27] <bekks> !backup | guest______
[20:27] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: no more ISO's thanks though
[20:27] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: you can, but you'll rarily want to
[20:27] <euclidis> mobileRoda: I know. Maybe the image is broken. Try  burning again or making a usb stick with a new downloaded image.
[20:27] <PublicStaticVoid> Well I want to
[20:27] <xangua> !info unity-tweak
[20:27] <xangua> xxmate: if you are using ubuntu saucy, you can install unity-tweak to change the panel background color
[20:27] <PublicStaticVoid> Do you know the command?
[20:27] <xangua> mmmm :/
[20:28] <guest______> !sbackup
[20:28] <PublicStaticVoid> I mean cinnamon is in the 14.04 repositories..
[20:28] <tr0n> apparently neither does skype
[20:28] <xangua> !info unity-tweak-tool | xxmate
[20:28] <xxmate> xangua: nope i'm using 13.04. i saw an option to change the luncher background but i need to change the top panel's color
[20:28] <xxmate> xangua: like this: http://imgur.com/hi42I2j
[20:28] <wachpwnski> ubottu: is that like an rsync cron job?
[20:28] <PublicStaticVoid> Was hard enough tracking down a non cracked OEM Windows 8.1 ISO
[20:29] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, that's my problem, euchlids, there was a obe-line fix given to me in here before, but i didnt realize how much i would need it again. i remember i had to edit a line in grub i think
[20:29] <tr0n> eww the "w" word
[20:29] <PublicStaticVoid> Since Windows has decided no more Key stickers, they now embed all Keys in the Bios
[20:29] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: no need for such crass language :p
[20:29] <PublicStaticVoid> and indows just installs and pulls the key automatically
[20:29] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: here http://askubuntu.com/questions/96601/how-can-i-install-a-program-from-a-ppa-that-is-listed-as-being-for-12-04-when-i
[20:29] <merandus> i haveadded a repo, http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/dm8tbr/xUbuntu_12.04/. i get the  (could not verify public key) error. how can i fix it? i don't know how to import the key with the command line
[20:29] <merandus>
[20:29] <mobileRoda> *one-line sorry mobile
[20:29] <hitsujiTMO> !nomodeset | mobileRoda
[20:29] <belgianguy> but I'm afraid it'll break everything
[20:29] <PublicStaticVoid> They didnt think about when people replace their hard drives
[20:30] <PublicStaticVoid> Because you get no isntall meedia
[20:30] <PublicStaticVoid> media
[20:30] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: if that happens, have an ISO ready while you still can
[20:30] <xup> hi, can I see ubuntu's public statistcs?
[20:30] <PublicStaticVoid> Yeah too late
[20:30] <belgianguy> (eg make one now with UNetBootin)
[20:30] <PublicStaticVoid> Didn't know they did that
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> merandus  don't not distro's, as you can see: it doesnt work or gets you in trouble
[20:30] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: I would need an ISO
[20:30] <PublicStaticVoid> Or you mean clone the recovery partition?
[20:30] <jacob_> i have a netbook that doesnt have much for disk space. is there anyway that i can add disk space with the sd card?
[20:31] <merandus> MonkeyDust: it's icecast built for ubuntu
[20:31] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, ive read all about nomodeset and tried online help in ask ubuntu, bit the only thing that worked for me was a line that came from a user in here from india
[20:31] <merandus> MonkeyDust: just in some other rep
[20:31] <merandus> repo*
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> merandus  don't not distro's, as you can see: it doesnt work or gets you in trouble
[20:31] <PublicStaticVoid> I broke down and bought DVDR's never had any luck making Windows install media on Linux for a USB
[20:31] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: no, one of those Cubuntu things, or just a vanilla Ubuntu LiveUSB
[20:31] <bekks> jacob_: technically yes, but an sd card is horribly slow.
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> not = mix
[20:31] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: the USB creator has had a patch yesterday which seems to have worked wonders
[20:32] <jacob_> bekks: any idea how?
[20:32] <merandus> MonkeyDust: what if i get the .dep file
[20:32] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: here are unofficial Cinnamon + 14.04 ISOs http://sourceforge.net/projects/cubuntu/files/
[20:32] <belgianguy> but again -> unofficial
[20:32] <bekks> jacob_: Insert it, create a filesystem, mount it.
[20:32] <MonkeyDust> merandus  you tried and it doesnt work, what more do you want to know
[20:32] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, ive spent manyhours on that nomodeset page, but the help given to me was slightly different
[20:33] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: UnetBootin can make bootable USB sticks from nearly all Linux ISOs
[20:33] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: I am not reinstalling my OS again haha
[20:33] <PublicStaticVoid> Thx though
[20:33] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: well at one point, root shell might get boring and lonely
[20:33] <merandus> MonkeyDust: it does work, i just want to know how to import the gpg file.
[20:33] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: Except Arch :) Unetbootin doesnt like ARch
[20:33] <belgianguy> and then that USB stick is worth a lot when not just empty space :p
[20:34] <jacob_> bekks:any specifics? im kinda new at this
[20:34] <PublicStaticVoid> belgianguy: what do you mean?
[20:34] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: prepare for your DE to be kaputt, broken, not working
[20:34] <PublicStaticVoid> Why do you say that?
[20:34] <PublicStaticVoid> I know how to reinstall Unity haha
[20:34] <PublicStaticVoid> If I brea it, it is no big deal
[20:35] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: because many realise that they borked their DE, and can no longer use a browser etc
[20:35] <belgianguy> PublicStaticVoid: then  by all means, continue :)
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: do you need the setting to be permanent or not?
[20:35] <tyyx> DE ?
[20:35] <tyyx> what's DE?
[20:35] <PublicStaticVoid> Desktop Enviroment
[20:35] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: or is it just while you install the proprietary driver?
[20:35] <tyyx> kkthx
[20:36] <PublicStaticVoid> Unity, KDE, XFCE, Gnome, Etc
[20:36] <PublicStaticVoid> Not to be confused with WM
[20:36] <PublicStaticVoid> Like Enlightenment
[20:36] <PublicStaticVoid> But I thing e17 has a shell now
[20:36] <PublicStaticVoid> So its pretty much a DE
[20:37] <PublicStaticVoid> I like Enlightenment
[20:37] <PublicStaticVoid> But cant get attacted to it on Ubuntu
[20:37] <PublicStaticVoid> Since they have made the retarded decision to go with Mir
[20:37] <PublicStaticVoid> Instead of Wayland
[20:37] <Troy> Ok, I have an external hard drive added to my fstab is there an option to allow all users to read/write/execute from it? I have a plex server and the permissions of the external hard drive even after added to the fstab is causing me issues. Any advice would be appreciated, Thanks.
[20:37] <PublicStaticVoid> And e18 ill require Wayland
[20:37] <PublicStaticVoid> will*
[20:37] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, its not that my screen goes black, but install freezes. last time i edited something once, was able to install, and didnt have to fiddle again
[20:38] <PublicStaticVoid> Like many DE's and WM's will in the future and we will all be stuck with Unity
[20:38] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: just out of curiousity if i get a new network card and swap it in, it should work normally right? Or do i need to configure changes if i switch eth0 cards?
[20:38] <PublicStaticVoid> I reinstalled Cinnamon from the repo
[20:38] <PublicStaticVoid> maybe it will work
[20:38] <PublicStaticVoid> brb
[20:38] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: or would the kernel technically pick up changes? that are done hardware wise...or would a small hardware change brick the system?
[20:38] <PublicStaticVoid> oh wait I have a torrent downloading, which finally ramped up to full saturation of my line
[20:38] <PublicStaticVoid> SO not risking that
[20:39] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: just depends in the chipset on the card. some work better than others
[20:39] <PublicStaticVoid> should have used Transmission CLI in a TTY
[20:39] <PublicStaticVoid> damn
[20:39] <tyyx> Psil0Cybin, install it...  it won't break anything.  It will just add eth1 or whatever other name it detected
[20:39] <Troy> I like the webui's
[20:39] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, just on install no propeietary drivers found when i had it running
[20:40] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: its very difficult for a hardware change to break an ubuntu system. its not like the older windows systems
[20:40] <tyyx> the only change you may find is that ... eth0 is no longer used, it's now ... eth1 or something else.
[20:41] <Calinou> tyyx, happened to me once after I changed motherboard :) but now it's back to eth0 for some reason
[20:41] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: what hardware do you have? it could be a huge number of kernel settings that are needed
[20:41] <Folbo> hi, my friend got error undefinied reference at linking executable in MAKE process, but only when compiling 64 bit app. How to fix it ?
[20:42] <hitsujiTMO> Folbo: whats the exact error?
[20:43] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, like i said before though, ive been in this spot once before and it was a fast fix after i knew exactly what to do =| intel i3 2.4ghz integrated graphics
[20:43] <Allison43> eth0 is default here, Calinou
[20:43] <Folbo> hitsujiTMO, /usr/bin/ld: utils/liblinosu-lib.a(curve.c.o): undefined reference to symbol 'sqrt@@GLIBC_2.2.5'
[20:44] <Folbo> and there is note below: /usr/bin/ld: note: 'sqrt@@GLIBC_2.2.5' is defined in DSO /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 so try adding it to the linker command line
[20:44] <robinmholt> Folbo: Add -lm to the link command line.
[20:45] <Folbo> in makefile? or where?
[20:45] <delt> test test
[20:45] <delt> sry
[20:45] <TheAndrewK> Hey guys, I am having troubles booting Ubuntu - it will usually load the kernel fine and start loading, but eventually halt. Currently, there isn't any specific command it halts on, but at some point it does :(
[20:45] <TheAndrewK> any idea what might be going on?
[20:45] <robinmholt> Folbo: Yes, there should be either an implicit or explicit rule for that link.  You probably want to add it to either LDFLAGS environment variable, or to the link line directly.
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: and at what point is it crashing, is it the same point each time?
[20:46] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: anything you changed that might have caused it? Have you booted into recovery mode and checked the logs?
[20:46] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: whats the exact model number of the laptop?
[20:46] <robinmholt> If you know the goal that is being built, you can also do something like 'foo:  LDFLAGS += -lm' to add it to the environment for just that one goal.
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> tyyx: hitsujiTMO when you mean install it? Do you mean just put it into the machine, or do I need to find a driver online type thing and install the driver for the card? in order to get the system to see it first before I can troubleshoot anything.
[20:47] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, same point every time, close to 80% at 'installing system'
[20:47] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: this is while trying to boot into recovery mode, so I haven't been able to check anything. I only migrated the hardware into a new case - everything is plugged in fine and such.
[20:47] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: i mean put it in the machine
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> tyyx hitsujiTMO the other card worked right away without a driver, it should be the same case again? or do I need to reconfigure? after I put the hard ware in
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okay perfect :D i will try that shortly.
[20:47] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: I had something similar once, when I switched from NVidia to AMD
[20:47] <belgianguy> and my gfx driver would no longer work
[20:47] <robinmholt> Folbo: You can dump the make goals, etc with 'make -p ...' where ... is whatever you were passing to make before.  If you understand makefile syntax, that should get you on the right track.
[20:48] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy:hmm interesting
[20:48] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: I'd say try booting from an USB stick Live Session
[20:48] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: only config you'd need to do is just the network config :P
[20:48] <belgianguy> see if it 'works' and you can rest easy that the hardware is all there and ticking
[20:49] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy:I have a live CD that tries to boot, but eventually sits on a black screen w/ white blinking cursor
[20:49] <robinmholt> Folbo: I would guess the reason you do not see this on i386, but you do see it on x86_64 is that gcc is adding the -lm for some other part of the collect phase and you just get lucky.
[20:49] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: mmm, that isn't too convincing
[20:50] <Folbo> lol, wait i'll try to add this option
[20:50] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: can you get into root shell from recovery console?
[20:50] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy:yeah, been struggling with this for a while
[20:50] <belgianguy> or nothing at all?
[20:50] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy:how can I do that?
[20:50] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, idk if it helps, but i think i remember the tip that helped was just a different spot to set nomodeset than in online tuts
[20:51] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: you said it hung on recovery console, at what point?
[20:51] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: let me try it again - it's been hanging at different points :/
[20:51] <robinmholt> Folbo: I need to run.  You might need to start over with somebody else if adding '-lm' does not work.
[20:52] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: or create an USB Live Disk as the ISO might be bad
[20:52] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: oh so it was nomodeset that you entered or was it a different param?
[20:52] <Folbo> robinmholt, thanks a lot, I'll look in google for track goals :) and flags
[20:52] <PublicStaticVoid> I still regret seling my gaming rig (K series i7 Quad Core 3.4Ghz, 16GB DDR3, Dual GTX 660Ti's 3x Acer 22 " Displays) To buy thi SHitty AMD A6 Laptop :(
[20:52] <PublicStaticVoid> But hey, I have a touchscren!
[20:53] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: yeah that's not a bad idea :)
[20:53] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okay amazing :D *fingers crossed* If it was the card, the whole time.. i am going to freak out at the company tiger direct in canada, they claim they know something about linux, but they actually do not....i am still very upset about how they promissed me a hardware raid, but really it was configured only through the bios..hence a software raid....how can you confuse the two?
[20:53] <PublicStaticVoid> Especially since I got an email for another ESO beta.
[20:53] <Beldar> PublicStaticVoid, Please no swearing here, and that is off topic.
[20:53] <robinmholt> Folbo: http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html
[20:53] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, i believe it was the nomodeset param, becsuse i remember thanking him for the one version of instructions that worked for me
[20:53] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: you're talking to a sales person, they just want a sale, don't really care too much for anything else
[20:54] <PublicStaticVoid> Beldar: Again.. Leave the Moderation to the Ops.. thats what they are hear for. If they have an issue.. They will let me know. Get a life.
[20:54] <rww> fyi Tiger Direct is awful
[20:54] <PublicStaticVoid> here*
[20:54] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: well i also spoke to the "linux" hardware specalist, and he told me that when I put the ubunbu iso install in, the hardware would be one drive...(hense) already raided for me...that was not the case.
[20:54] <Psil0Cybin> so either he was confused, at what hardware i got...or he didnt actually work on my machine
[20:54] <belgianguy> yeah, never ask a sales person for a non-biased opinion
[20:54] <belgianguy> they are paid to sell you stuff
[20:55] <Psil0Cybin> sigh what a world we live in.
[20:55] <Psil0Cybin> :) thank god for the people on #Ubuntu <3
[20:55] <PublicStaticVoid> haha
[20:55] <Psil0Cybin> no joke PublicStaticVoid if i ever have millions of dollars, first thing I am doing is donating to everyone who helped me on here.
[20:55] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, i might be making progress, please dont stress yourself on it atm, if this doesnt work i'll cry for halp again
[20:55] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: prob the linux "sales" specialist. usually the specialist is just another sales person thats free at the time.
[20:56] <PublicStaticVoid> Okay off to the airport, have a consultation for a gaming startup in California.. Yey!
[20:56] <mobileRoda> youre pretty busy
[20:56] <TheAndrewK> PublicStaticVoid:which startup?
[20:56] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: okay, going to attempt booting (in recovery). my boot param is: linux /vmlinuz-3.11.0-14-generic root=UUID=XXX-XXX-XX ro recovery nomodeset --verbose text
[20:56] <PublicStaticVoid> But hey 3 days to show them how to build a network for like 30 Machines and 4 servers.. 15k for me :)
[20:56] <PublicStaticVoid> I love consultation work
[20:56] <PublicStaticVoid> Almost fels like robbery
[20:56] <TheAndrewK> PublicStaticVoid: haha
[20:57] <TheAndrewK> PublicStaticVoid: which place are you going to? :D
[20:57] <PublicStaticVoid> TheAndrewK: Not very professional to say..
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: ok, when booting the install cd you should get a grub screen, hit on the menu option and that should allow you to edit the boot options. you add nomodeset after quiet splash
[20:57] <TheAndrewK> true :)
[20:57] <bekks> PublicStaticVoid: You spend two days with installing one system already :P
[20:57] <IdleOne> PublicStaticVoid: Could you please take the offtopic chatter to the offtopic channel.
[20:57] <TheAndrewK> PublicStaticVoid: best of luck
[20:57] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy:yay, I can drop to a root shell
[20:57] <PublicStaticVoid> TheAndrewK: Thanks
[20:57] <FireVersal> Anyone know of any great beginner ubuntu tutorial?
[20:57] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: sorry, yeah, i generally end up helping a few peeps at the same time
[20:57] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: any recommendations on what to do from here?
[20:57] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: are you on wired eth0?
[20:57] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i have a bigger problem, I just found out that the eth0 is in the motherboard, so can i just buy another card and put it in? without a problem? or is it the fact that it is in the mother board going to cause problems?
[20:57] <TheAndrewK> yessir
[20:58] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: well, do as much diagnostics as possible
[20:58] <PublicStaticVoid> bekks: I don't install anything.. Just help their IT guys plan for the deployment.. reccomend hardwre etc..  Why people can't have a little chat here as well? Rhetorical question.
[20:58] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: should be no problem, you can normally disable the card completely in the bios if you wish, or blacklist the drivers so they don't get loaded
[20:58] <rww> euclidis: because the channel is huge and it makes it harder to do support chat, so we made #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[20:58] <PublicStaticVoid> euclidis: Cause they are super serious here haha
[20:59] <Beldar> !language | euclidis
[20:59] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: not sure what the equiv is sadly; also on a read-only filesystem if that makes a difference
[20:59] <PublicStaticVoid> there is #ubuntu-Offtopic though, which is pretty fun
[20:59] <euclidis> PublicStaticVoid: Good one! hehe
[20:59] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO no worries at all, thank you very much for addressing my issue. +2 internets to you sir
[20:59] <PublicStaticVoid> Later everyone, keep it *nix!
[20:59] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: let me Google it for a moment
[20:59] <mobileRoda> meow to see if its all good
[20:59] <TheAndrewK> okay haha thanks; sorry to make you do that
[20:59] <belgianguy> did you change the GFX hardware?
[20:59] <TheAndrewK> nope - same old graphics card.
[20:59] <TheAndrewK> cleaned it though ;)
[21:00] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: looks like it halted or froze or something...
[21:00] <Beldar> euclidis, You are welcome to chat at #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:00] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: i haven't typed anything other than ls and such; blinking cursor on screen, no input will show
[21:00] <Guest21054> How does one get to Ubuntu-Offtopic
[21:01] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: is there anything i can do to get it working without buying another card since its on the motheboard? or is it better to just get the 15$ card and try it out, if it is the case, what kind of card do i need to get is there a specific model number that is much more supported than others?
[21:01] <TheAndrewK> Guest17428: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:01] <hitsujiTMO> Guest21054: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:01] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: hmm, that doesn't sound right
[21:01] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: yeah, not at all; this is what I have been hitting the past few days
[21:01] <belgianguy> maybe a kernel panic, but that'd be surprising
[21:02] <Folbo> robinmholt, there is link.txt, do you think this command run linker? if u are here.. http://www.speedyshare.com/M3wgA/link.txt
[21:02] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: have multiple kernels installed?
[21:02] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: i have 3, yes
[21:02] <euclidis> I'm fine, Beldar. I'm not chating. Its just boring when people talk a bit 'off-topic' and get a kick of the channel.. Anyway..
[21:02] <belgianguy> otherwise try booting into an older recovery console
[21:02] <[[a]>  I have a router TP LINK Model No: TD-W8950ND, the router itself has the
[21:02] <[[a]>  <IP_ADDRESS>/logview.cmd but when I open the link it gets generated into HTML. I was
[21:02] <TheAndrewK> I think I've tried them all, but I can try another
[21:02] <[[a]>  able to automatically copy the file and past it in my Desktop (of course I convert it
[21:02] <[[a]>  into text file). What I want to do is redirecting the logview.cmd from my router straight to my
[21:02] <FloodBot1> [[a]: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:02] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: what eth0 card? should i buy, model wise...or just run into the store and just buy any ethernet card? I just want to make sure what ever i get is better supported.
[21:02] <[[a]> ok
[21:02] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: best to avoid anything with broadcom or realtek chipsets.
[21:03] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so if i go to the store and ask them for a eth0 card attempting to avoid broadcom or realtek i should be in the clear?
[21:03] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: find out whats available, have a quick google to see what chipset it may be using. and have a look at what issues it may have with ubuntu
[21:04] <Allison43> broadcom works well here hitsujiTMO , it installed in ubiquity when the wifi option appeared
[21:04] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: that depends on the comprehension of the person in the store.
[21:04] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy: thanks for your help; going to make an ubuntu usb stick and maybe try that
[21:04] <TheAndrewK> belgianguy:and try the older kernels ;)
[21:05] <hitsujiTMO> Allison43: its not thatt they don't work, thery're just the hardest to get working in general
[21:05] <belgianguy> TheAndrewK: np, best of luck
[21:05] <Allison43> hitsujiTMO, well maybe I'm just lucky
[21:06] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: do you think this card would be good? looking at the walmart website? http://www.walmart.ca/en/ip/d-link-pci-dfe-530tx/6000002970224
[21:08] <str3> hey is this the channel for windows rejects
[21:08] <yangm> Hello. I have installed ubuntu recently but firefox keep going grey like every 30 seconds or so
[21:08] <mobileRoda> windows recovery room
[21:08] <mobileRoda> for me
[21:09] <str3> mobileRoda: :P
[21:09] <belgianguy> yangm: try a apt-get --reinstall?
[21:09] <mobileRoda> windows touched me in all the bad places
[21:09] <yangm> already uninstalled a lot of crapware from ubuntu but firefox still sluggish
[21:09] <yangm> I got like 1.something GB by doing that btw
[21:09] <yangm> belgianguy: tried reinstalling with no lucky
[21:09] <belgianguy> yangm: http://askubuntu.com/questions/333411/updating-or-uninstalling-and-reinstalling-firefox-on-linux
[21:10] <belgianguy> did you remove its temp folders?
[21:10] <yangm> belgianguy: not yeat
[21:10] <yangm> *yet
[21:10] <str3> yangm: switch to a lightweight distro?
[21:10] <yangm> it has been like this since I installed ubuntu
[21:11] <yangm> str3: do an i7 2610m with 8gb of ram need a lightweight distro?
[21:11] <str3> its not a matter of hardware
[21:11] <str3> bloat is bloat
[21:11] <Allison43> yangm, FF has a default setting that stores all bookmarks etc for fast loading https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/reset-firefox-easily-fix-most-problems
[21:11] <str3> i run a lighter distro than debian on an ivy bridge extreme box
[21:12] <Calinou> yangm, as a radical solution... use another browser?
[21:12] <Calinou> chromium
[21:12] <yangm> oops 2620M
[21:12] <Calinou> if you're not happy with firefox
[21:12] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: thats a realtek 8139 ... its an old card too. generally works with 2.6 kernel. can't see any info on compatibility with 3.8 kernel
[21:12] <yangm> Allison43: can I move firefox temp folders and everything to ram?
[21:12] <Calinou> you wouldn't want to do that
[21:13] <yangm> I think my hd is too slow
[21:13] <Bashing-om> str3: If your concern is bloat, what I did was install "minimal" and install only the apps I wanted. Workie great, last long time.
[21:13] <Allison43> yangm, not sure , just became aware of the reset option
[21:13] <yangm> Calinou: I remember that using a ramdisk to store chrome tempfiles improved a lot navigation on windows
[21:13] <str3> Bashing-om: i install all my systems minimal, but i dont use ubuntu anyway
[21:14] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so what card can I perhaps get, that would work better? I am thinking of going to the store now, but I am very confused ( what is considered an old card) or a better card? someone said I could go just pick up any 15$ card...to toss into the machine, could you perhaps help me find a model # so i can run around looking for something specific, just becasue i will have a hard time finding non broadcom or realtek :( chipsets.
[21:15] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, i think its doing it again. set nomodeset on install, updates and 3rd party progs like before ,  everything chugs along then it just hangs at installing system
[21:15] <yangm> strange, just noticed that Ubuntu doesn't recognizes my Intel hd300 GPU
[21:15] <yangm> Graphics Unknown
[21:16] <yangm> *hd3000
[21:17] <Calinou> yangm, there's no reason it doesn't
[21:17] <StevenXL> Guys, I have tried to add a permanent alias to my bash profile but it is not working. I have a file called .bash_aliases.
[21:17] <StevenXL> and I have a file called .bashrc
[21:17] <Calinou> if you're using a version newer or equal to 12.04
[21:17] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, is there somewhere using the disc to hit f6? i think that was the winner, putting nomodeset in there when i was installing from usb with same problem. i cant find that menu now though
[21:18] <Allison43> StevenXL, ~/.bashrc is the file for aliases
[21:18] <yangm> Calinou: using latest 12.04 here
[21:18] <FireVersal>  hey
[21:18] <StevenXL> Allison43, according to the documentation inside .bashrc, I should create another file called .bash_aliases and have .bashrc 'call' that file.
[21:18] <FireVersal> 8 hey
[21:18] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: is it 13.10 that you're installing?
[21:19] <FireVersal> sorry wrong chat
[21:19] <FireVersal>  hey
[21:19] <FireVersal> shet
[21:19] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, 12.04
[21:19] <yangm> also, my ubuntu is booting via grub efi (was installed this way)
[21:19] <Allison43> StevenXL, yeah , but why ?
[21:19] <yangm> maybe if I boot using this efi stub my GPU will be detected?
[21:19] <mobileRoda> x64
[21:19] <StevenXL> Allison43, it is best practice I think. Makes it easier to mantain I imagine?
[21:21] <belgianguy> StevenXL: logged out and in again?
[21:21] <belgianguy> or force it to reload (I don't know the command)
[21:21] <belgianguy> one of mine looks like this: alias ll='ls -alF'
[21:21] <belgianguy> and it's in .bashrc directly (might be bad)
[21:21] <belgianguy> but it works
[21:21] <giuliocod> ioi
[21:22] <StevenXL> belgianguy, I will try that, thanks!
[21:22] <StevenXL> exit
[21:22] <belgianguy> the command to reload bashrc without logging in and out is source ~/.bashrc
[21:22] <sudormrf> Hi guys!  I am trying to get Nagios up and running.  The nagios box (debian) is monitoring an ubuntu server.  When I check the nagios cfg it says there is a duplicate definition, but I don't understand why or where (even by looking at the file that it tells me about).  Is anyone in here familiar with Nagios?
[21:22] <Allison43> StevenXL, ok , I'll take your word for it
[21:23] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: well that card chipset is from 2005. when it comes to linux you're generally playing the lotto when buying a card. more often than not things will work ofc. just the odd time you can get stuck with something that doesn't work at all. I'd almost think the onboard card you have will work just needs the right driver installed
[21:23] <AaronMT> Here's a stupid issue, I just applied updates to 13.10, now on sign-in I am automatically kicked back to the sign-in screen
[21:23] <StevenXL> It didn't work.
[21:23] <StevenXL> :-(
[21:23] <AaronMT> what do I do
[21:24] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so would you be able to help me find the right driver? just because the biggest problem i have is that the computer has no optical cd drive, and everything has to be done through USB. I had people on here last night finally help me get it to show an eth0 information by changing /etc/networking/interfaces  my biggest issue is that the eth0 wire i was using was working with every other machine, except the server....so everyone sai
[21:24] <Psil0Cybin> d that the card i was using was not supported and to go buy another on because they said i would spend more time getting drivers than getting a new card
[21:24] <Psil0Cybin> thus i was confused if i should just go out and buy a new card and avoid more difficulties of getting a driver configured
[21:25] <Beldar> StevenXL, Be sure to use nicks if addressing another user, if your just commenting give details, so we all can basically follow what's up
[21:25] <snatch> Can someone help me, I connect an external drive and its not getting noticed
[21:25] <geirha> StevenXL: What line did you add, what did you expect, what happened instead?
[21:25] <goingtologic> snatch: Is it plugged in?
[21:25] <StevenXL> Beldar, OK thanks.
[21:25] <snatch> -.-  yes its pluged in...
[21:25] <goingtologic> snatch: I dont know then - this is too complicated
[21:26] <snatch> there's a terminal command i just forgot what it was
[21:26] <snatch> -s msdeg   or something like that
[21:26] <snatch> I just forgot it..   :(
[21:26] <StevenXL> geirha, I added the following to a file called .bash_aliases: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6717249/
[21:26] <Beldar> snatch, sudo fdisk -l will show info, be sure to use nicks here.
[21:26] <Aaron> snatch, man program ;)
[21:27] <demophobia> Are there any bells and whistles I can enable regarding Ubuntu 12.04 desktop graphics?
[21:27] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: well we had a link yesterday to what was said to be a working driver. just need to get get build essentials installed too.   you in work now?
[21:27] <geirha> StevenXL: Ah, you messed up the quotes
[21:27] <demophobia> i recall compiz being something back around 9.09(?) but had different hardware then and it wasn't so nice
[21:27] <yangm> Why ubuntu won't recognise my intel HD 30000 GPU? is it because grub efi? shoud I try kernel efi stub? updating from 12.04 to 13.10?
[21:27] <sudormrf> Can anyone assist with my Nagios setup?
[21:27] <geirha> alias development='cd /that/long/path'
[21:27] <Aaron> compiz is so out of development
[21:27] <snatch> hmm
[21:27] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: Take a look ->ls -la .Xauthority .ICEauthority <- make sure these files still belong to you not root.
[21:27] <sakter12> Other than the software center is there some website or resource online that has a large archive of up to date linux software?
[21:27] <geirha> StevenXL: note where the starting quote is ^
[21:27] <_gh0st> my laptop is configured to blank its screen after so long without a keypress (on install) how do i configure this to stop happening?
[21:27] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, it keeps installing far enough to show me grub after failed install and restart, but i cant load the distro
[21:27] <demophobia> sakter12, sourceforge?
[21:28] <StevenXL> geirha, thanks! I will try it now. Do I have to reload .bashrc after I correct .bash_aliases? If so, how do I do that?
[21:28] <Aaron> sakter12, if you want to always have new apps install you can always, install testing ;)
[21:28] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: They both do
[21:28] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: i am at work right now, but the problem is, i have no internet so i can get the build essencials and the driver package, but i am stil going to be missing a bunch of packages, that i think are going to be required?
[21:28] <_gh0st> or rather, where is this configured to happen or not to happen?
[21:28] <geirha> StevenXL: source ~/.bashrc  or just open a new terminal and try there
[21:28] <Beldar> demophobia, What is it you want be specific.
[21:28] <_gh0st> a file in /etc?  Or in /sys?
[21:28] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: would it not be easier, if i run the store and just buy another card :P? if you can help me find a version that is better supported?
[21:28] <Aaron> Psychoholic, take ur laptop to your job, ;)
[21:28] <Aaron> and download it from there.
[21:28] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: so is it failing at grub itself?
[21:28] <snatch> still nothing
[21:28] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, im also uefi, with fast/secure boot disabled
[21:28] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: int he install?
[21:29] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: Like do == you ?
[21:29] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, it seems to load the grub after hanging on install and alt-prt-reisub
[21:29] <Beldar> !who | snatch
[21:29] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: Both those files are under my username
[21:29] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: does the system you're on right now have ubuntu/debian?
[21:29] <chs> im trying to setup/use forticlient. it shows that tunnel is running and im getting exttra dev ppp0 with an ip. i wish to run vnc on my computer in the office with priv ip.ppp0 has ip starting with 172. my workstation in office starts with 192
[21:30] <snatch> Ok
[21:30] <CTCP2> hello, i have black screen when entering Ubuntu (after installing ATI drivers, after restart)
[21:30] <Beldar> snatch, I gave you a command as well another did "still nothing" means nothing here without details, and the users nick.
[21:30] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: i'm trying to think of the cause but can't come up with anything particular
[21:30] <StevenXL> geirha, that worked. Thanks! One quick question; since I can't use the quotes the way I originally had them, what would I do if I was using a really awkward directory?
[21:30] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, but just like clockwork, i get to installing system and it just gives up..  .
[21:30] <StevenXL> geirha, normally I use those single quotes
[21:30] <[[a]> _gh0st in sys
[21:30] <_gh0st> where?
[21:31] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: it has ubuntu server on it, at the moment...the problem is the eth0 pops up, when i do ifconfig, but even if I set a static ip or dhcp in the /etc/network/interfaces it it wont give me any network connection in the sense that any pinging i do always say unknown host, unless i ping the machine from the machine.
[21:31] <geirha> StevenXL: Personally, I'd use a function instead of an alias, but with an alias, you'd use two sets of quotes (which can get painful if there's many special characters)
[21:31] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: Not good !, What results from terminal command: sudo service lightdm restart <- ?
[21:31] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: the mother board i am using is this one.
[21:32] <Psil0Cybin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2111223
[21:32] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, its weird, like clockwork just hangs at installing system. any place i can get to f6? i remember that being part of fix maybe
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: not the server.the laptop you're using right now. dies it have ubuntu?
[21:32] <snatch> I have a harddrive connected via sata cords and usb.  is there like a detect hardware command?
[21:32] <Psil0Cybin> yes hitsujiTMO it has ubuntu it has xubuntu 12.04
[21:32] <StevenXL> geirha, got it. Thank you.
[21:32] <geirha> StevenXL: alias foo="cd '/some dir/blah'";   or with a function:  foo() { cd '/some dir/blah'; }
[21:32] <[[a]> router has a log file in itself which is .cmd extention, I just want to redirect those incoming ip addresses in the log of the router to my ubuntu, in desktop or any given folder
[21:32] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: I am brought back to the sign-in screen, same result, on sign-in I am brought right back to the sign-in screen
[21:32] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: the f6 menu iirc is on the server install disk. not sure of one on the desktop
[21:32] <sakter12> what's a good way to learn how to use APIs?
[21:33] <gdeeble> ikonia: So I'm still trying to figure this out. /etc/init.d/mediatomb is a symlink to /lib/init/upstart-job. So how do I get it as an upstart service?
[21:33] <mammuth> #ubuntu-fr
[21:33] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: so you think we can configuer this? or you think i shoild go get a networking card just incase so we can have that beside me to play around with
[21:33] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: Is unity the only DE installed ?
[21:33] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: yes
[21:33] <geirha> gdeeble: an upstart job is /etc/init/foo.conf  instead of  /etc/init.d/foo
[21:33] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: that cool. mkdir ~/coocoocachoo; sudo apt-get install debootstrap
[21:34] <gdeeble> geirha: it shows mediatomb.conf in there, but if I push it to rcX it doesn't start with the box.
[21:34] <gdeeble> also service mediatomb start says it's running but doesn't show in ps aux.
[21:35] <geirha> gdeeble: Because it's an upstart job, not an init script
[21:35] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: Is there any way to check the logs
[21:35] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: lets quickly try this first. run that above and we'll use a debootstrap environment to get the needed packages
[21:35] <Aaron> AaronMT, go to /var/log
[21:35] <Aaron> there you can find all the logs,
[21:35] <knightshade> hitsujiTMO: coocoocachoo?
[21:36] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: well, let;s see what the system will tell us. Reboot to a terminal login. code: sudo service lightdm start <- what errors are reported ?
[21:36] <in_deep_thought> how can I open a program i recently installed using the software center?
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> knightshade: shh!!! don't ask questions!
[21:36] <snatch> is there a way to scan for newly connected devices?
[21:36] <bekks> in_deep_thought: Remember the name, first :)
[21:36] <knightshade> coocoocachoo! :D
[21:36] <in_deep_thought> httrack
[21:37] <snatch> check in the progra got it inm list under the catagory you
[21:37] <gdeeble> geirha: You probably think I'm stupid, and I'll 100% agree. LoL, but what do I need to do to get it as a service to start at boot. I had to compile mediatomb to include spider monkey(libjs) support. I did this once before years ago on 10.04 but now that i'm 12.04, i'm back in hole and can't remember what I did before to make it work.
[21:37] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo debootstrap precise ~/coocoocachoo
[21:37] <Aaron> gdeeble, man services
[21:37] <snatch> so no device manager? got a usb drive not being detected :(
[21:37] <_gh0st> f
[21:38] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: no errors, it's already running: lightdm
[21:38] <_gh0st>  /sys/class/graphics?
[21:38] <Beldar> snatch, How is the usb formatted, and is it a flash or HD?
[21:38] <_gh0st>  /sys/class/backlight?
[21:38] <Psil0Cybin> okay going to do that right now
[21:38] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: one second
[21:38] <geirha> gdeeble: So where did the upstart conf come from?
[21:39] <Psil0Cybin> wait hitsujiTMO would it just be easier to get anothe card?
[21:39] <yangm> If I update ubuntu will it reinstall all of its bloatware again?
[21:39] <gdeeble> geirha: it must have been put in when I installed the compiled package using dpkg
[21:39] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: maybe the issue in auth.log; lightdm: pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth) : requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "aaronmt"
[21:39] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: There are 2 logs that might have info .. /var/log/Xorg.log.0 and ~/.xsession-errors.
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: i wouldn't get the one you linked. this should only take 10 mins
[21:39] <Psil0Cybin> okay hitsujiTMO one second i am going to do this now
[21:39] <Aaron> yangm, when you do apt-get dist-upgrade you will receive all the information, from which packages are going to be update
[21:40] <yangm> Aaron: will it reinstall software I removed like libreoffice?
[21:40] <Beldar> yangm, updates ,update what is available.
[21:40] <geirha> gdeeble: Then it probably starts on boot already. Depends on what events it triggers on, of course
[21:40] <Aaron> yangm, depending if the app you are trying to install. it requires libreoffice then it will
[21:40] <Psil0Cybin> okay ran the sudo debootstrap precise command, its doing its thang.
[21:41] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: Ohm hmm, X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid window parameter)
[21:41] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: Ill try resetting X and reinstalling my nvidia driver
[21:41] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: cool. ping me when its done
[21:41] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: Do not know about "pam" .. maybe on to something, do you have a pass word set for the user account ?
[21:41] <Beldar> yangm, Purge what you do not want and be sure to watch what is removed.
[21:41] <gdeeble> geirha: It doesn't seem like it is, because I can't access webui and devices don't see it till I open up ssh and start it that way
[21:42] <yangm> Beldar: Aaron: I will only update because 12.04 is not recognizing my intel HD 3000
[21:42] <Aaron> then do it yangm  and good luck ;)
[21:42] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: does this command take up alot of memory on my xubuntu machine hitsujiTMO ?
[21:42] <Psil0Cybin> or can i remove the files later worst ,case one i transfer them over onto the server.
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: about 600 - 800mb but you can remove it all after. its call contained in the single folder
[21:43] <Psil0Cybin> okay perfect hitsujiTMO thank you.
[21:43] <AaronMT> Bashing-om: looks it it was that, reinstalled my nvidia driver
[21:43] <yangm> Aaron: other question, is it possible that grub is not capable of detecting my GPU? If I switch to EFI stub, will it work?
[21:44] <Aaron> yangm, i don't think so ;)
[21:44] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: (re-)install driver, could be if you are running proprietary driver and update broke it.
[21:44] <Calinou> yangm, it _is _recognizing it
[21:44] <Calinou> however, you should still run 13.10 for other reason
[21:44] <Calinou> the support is better (much faster), for instance
[21:44] <AaronMT> likely, as usual
[21:44] <Calinou> yangm, UEFI or not has nothing to do with it either
[21:45] <Calinou> yangm, GRUB has nothing to do with it
[21:45] <geirha> gdeeble: Then fixing the upstart job to actually start it should help
[21:45] <Calinou> yangm, "lspci | grep VGA" is a proof of your card being recognized
[21:45] <yangm> Calinou: when it comes to a Mac EFI (not UEFI) booting vs BIOS booting makes much difference
[21:45] <snatch> the sudo dmesg worked last time :( doesn't anymore
[21:46] <yangm> like, windows 8 via efi will never detect the sound driver
[21:46] <Calinou> oh, if you're on a Mac it may be a different story
[21:46] <Bashing-om> AaronMT: Yeah! good deal, seen that too many times, update breaking the Proprietary drivers - good reason to stay within the package manager system, huh ?
[21:47] <yangm> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[21:47] <snatch> Anyone able to get "Andoriod Studio" ?  i keep getting an error before the download finishes :(
[21:47] <gdeeble> geirha: apparently, I am 100% stupid... Logs help from time to time, especially help if the user reads them.
[21:47] <sakter12> so to install gimp-2.8 i had to add a PPA i found on some askubuntu thread, which just ...what are those PPA's people post there?  it seemed like just some guy's thing on leafpad, is there like an official PPA list for programs like gimp and blender? to get the most recent stable versions?
[21:47] <yangm> but system details shows as unknown
[21:47] <sakter12> oh i'm using 12.04
[21:47] <yangm> and firefox still having problems even when I reinstall that way someone sent me here
[21:48] <KI7MT> sakter12, PPA's are just that, personal package archives .. always use at your own risk, some better than others though.
[21:49] <Beldar> sakter12, there is a list of all ppa's however ppa's are third party and not technically supported you are some what on your own in using them.
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: actually in the meantime. on the server run: echo "blacklist r8169" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[21:49] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: am i going to be placing these files obviously on a usb :) to transfer onto the server, okay i am turning on the server now and running that command..mean while. :)
[21:49] <sakter12> KI7MT, ah tiz what i thought, is there some list of those that ARE better?  Beldar there are no ... official ones? idk how to phrase this.
[21:49] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: reboot the server after
[21:50] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: not all the files. just a handful that we'll use the debootstrap env to get
[21:50] <MonkeyDust> sakter12  if it's not in the repo's, then it's not official
[21:50] <sakter12> KI7MT, how can i view all my current PPAs?  synaptic?
[21:50] <KI7MT> sakter12, ya can't, but here's a list I look at allot: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas
[21:51] <Beldar> sakter12, Also always check the ppa's web page and if they have a release for your release. There is n o better list. You also want to be familiar with ppa-purge in case you need to remove a ppa's packages and go back to the ubuntu repo packages.
[21:51] <jhutchins> sakter12: There really is no quality control for PPAs.  Anybody can set one up, and put any quality of software or even malware on it.
[21:51] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, i totally think i can fix my problem if i can get to the f6 menu, but i cant get it to load from disc? before i was on usb and remember it working
[21:51] <Psil0Cybin> okay hitsujiTMO one second i am going to be running that command to blacklist, give me a second.
[21:51] <Beldar> sakter12, ppa's should be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[21:51] <demophobia> Are there any visual enhancements that can be enabled for Ubuntu 12.04?
[21:52] <jhutchins> sakter12: That's why the general rule is that if it's from a PPA, #ubuntu does not support it.
[21:52] <Psil0Cybin> okay hitsujiTMO blacklisted.
[21:52] <Psil0Cybin> :)
[21:52] <sakter12> wow thank you all that was very informative. o.O
[21:52] <jhutchins> sakter12: Your best bet is to stick to ones that are discussed frequently by people who seem to know what they're doing and who don't say they're outright bad, or just stick to the official repos with no PPAs.
[21:52] <knightshade> demophobia: you can change the wallpaper.
[21:53] <KI7MT> sakter12, And if you work with scripts at all, this is pretty nifty: http://askubuntu.com/questions/148932/how-can-i-get-a-list-of-all-repositories-and-ppas-from-the-command-line
[21:53] <demophobia> !ppa
[21:53] <demophobia> lol thanks knightshade
[21:53] <demophobia> oh, is there a setting to change the wallpaper every x period of time like mac OS X?
[21:53] <jhutchins> sakter12: It would be amusing if you were to set up a wiki that attempted to collect a comprehensive list of available PPAs and invite people to comment and review.
[21:53] <demophobia> !ppa-purge
[21:54] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: rebooting the server, after blacklisting.
[21:54] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, i definitely remember the fix involving pressing e to edit boot line in f 6 and change params there, just cant find my way back
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: the f6 option is just to set kernel params just ike you just did with nomodeset. maybe it was another. have a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[21:54] <Beldar> demophobia, You can use > rather than | and get that info privately
[21:55] <Beldar> If you direct it at yourself
[21:55] <sakter12> thank you demophobia KI7MT Beldar jhutchins MonkeyDust that cleared up a lot
[21:55] <gdeeble> Now If it would allow me access to my files.... lol
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: when its up. do: lspci -knn | grep Ethernet -A2     and see what kernel driver its using
[21:55] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, funny, that was the page i was just on that reminded me of the fix, but icant get it to get to that screen..?
[21:55] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: or if its loaded one
[21:56] <jhutchins> ethtool will also show what driver you're using - I believe it's -i
[21:56] <demophobia> demophobia: thanks -- erm, i mean, Beldar: thanks :P
[21:56] <sakter12> so i currently have gimp-2.8 installed and the ubuntu 12.04 repo is gimp 2.6, what happens if i remove the PPA that i got gimp 2.8 from?  it stays right?
[21:56] <hitsujiTMO> mobileRoda: the items in the list can go raw into the boot config like you did with nomodeset. just try each one
[21:56] <Beldar> ;)
[21:56] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: it says Ethernet Controller [0200] Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06) Subsystem: Giga-byte tech Ga-ep45-ds5 motherboard Kernel driver in use: r8169
[21:56] <demophobia> I thought someone else might benefit from it here besides me, but I guess I should've been following the chat more closely before making that assumption.
[21:57] <demophobia> >ppa-purge
[21:57] <demophobia> erm
[21:57] <demophobia> lol
[21:57] <knightshade> demophobia: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/wallch/
[21:57] <demophobia> apparently i don't understand
[21:57] <Beldar> demophobia, !ppa-purge > demophobia
[21:57] <demophobia> cool, thanks
[21:57] <knightshade> np
[21:57] <Beldar> no prfob
[21:57] <Beldar> prob*
[21:57] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: hrmmm... try: lsmod | grep r8169
[21:57] <demophobia> !wireless > demophobia
[21:58] <demophobia> ubottu, no! :P
[21:58] <KI7MT> demonspork, also look into a package called YPPA
[21:58] <Pici> demophobia: please /msg ubottu if you're just looking for things for yourself.
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> it says r8169           68716   0
[21:58] <mobileRoda> hitsujiTMO, my problem is now i cant get to the advanced boot window..
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> still downloading to coocooahoo :)
[21:58] <glitsj16> demophobia: if you're interested in regular info/tips on visual enhancements (amongst other more general ubuntu topics) and have a rss feed tool, http://www.webupd8.org/ and http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/ form a nice source to keep up with, just a thought..
[21:58] <demophobia> Pici, noted.
[21:58] <mobileRoda> if i could that should be it, i remember what to do from there
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: weird its still loading the black listed driver.
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> ...wierd
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> should i try blacklisting it again?
[21:59] <demophobia> glitsj16, does thunderbird do RSS? ...
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ls -l /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> it might have been with other people trying to help me getting the driver working....sigh i should have kept everything i did.
[21:59] <glitsj16> demophobia: yes it does iirc
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1619 Jan 9 00:53 /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[22:00] <KI7MT> demonspork, actually, it's called "Y PPA Manager" .. and of course, it's also a PPA  ... PPA madness today :-)
[22:00] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: the files finished downloading on the laptop
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf | grep r8169
[22:00] <sakter12> Beldar, if i got into /etc/apt/sources.list.d  and "rm -f somePPA.list"  is it completely removed after that?  ppas just effect how sudo apt-get update && upgrade "work" .... right?
[22:00] <sakter12> *go into
[22:00] <Psil0Cybin> it says blacklist r8169
[22:00] <Exploit> the new apache, when i setup virtual hosts looks different, when i want to enable mod-rewrite using allowall feature, its not there. anyone know of this?
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ok. we'll ignore the issue for now. back to the laptop.
[22:01] <KI7MT> Exploit, you on 13.10 UB?
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo mount --bind /dev ~/coocoocachoo/dev
[22:01] <Exploit> yes
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo mount --bind /sys ~/coocoocachoo/sys
[22:01] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo mount --bind /dev/pts ~/coocoocachoo/dev/pts
[22:02] <streulma> hello, my ssd report 1 bad sector, what to do ?
[22:02] <Psil0Cybin> mount: mount point /home/psilocybin/coocoocachoo/dev does not exist
[22:02] <Beldar> sakter12, If you want the ppa removed and the packages from it reverting you to the packages from the ubuntu repo you use ppa-purge, I would avoid rm rf in in general it is rarely needed
[22:02] <sudormrf> bye
[22:02] <gdeeble> geirha, so I have starting and stopping, but I'm still experiencing an issue, where if I run the daemon, no matter the users, it gets permission denied?
[22:03] <gdeeble> but ran manually works fine
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ls -l ~
[22:03] <KI7MT> Exploit, lots of changes in 2.4: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/new_features_2_4.html
[22:03] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: diff folder name
[22:03] <Psil0Cybin> it worked with sudo mount --bind /dev ~/coocooachoo/dev
[22:03] <Beldar> sakter12, That removing command if run wrong once executed can really mess you up is all.
[22:03] <sakter12> Beldar, ah yes, ppa-purge i got to look that up. thank you.
[22:03] <sakter12> i see
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ahh you forgot a c when on debootstrap. thats ok
[22:03] <Psil0Cybin> sudo mount --bind /sys ~/coocooachoo/sys
[22:03] <Beldar> !ppa-purge > sakter12
[22:03] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo mount --bind /dev/pts ~/coocooachoo/dev/pts
[22:04] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo mount -t proc none ~/coocooachoo/proc
[22:04] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: Just ran all the commands,
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo choot ~/coocooachoo
[22:05] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: this wont mess up my laptop though right just because i am mounting all these folders?
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: nope it wont
[22:05] <Psil0Cybin> sudo: choot: command not found
[22:05] <intrader> Anyone, I have just installed 7zip. I am unable to find in the terminal or Dash Home. The package manager finds it. How do I execute it?
[22:05] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: sudo chroot ~/coocooachoo
[22:05] <Psil0Cybin> okay hitsujiTMO i am in it.
[22:06] <Exploit> how do i do AllowOverride in apache 2.5?
[22:07] <Beldar> intrader, right click what you need it for then click use 7zip
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: echo "deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main restricted universe multiverse" > /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:08] <Beldar> open with is the right click path intrader
[22:08] <alfonsojon> Hi
[22:08] <alfonsojon> I have a question regarding 14.04
[22:08] <Psil0Cybin> okay i did it hitsujiTMO, it looks like the command ran fine.
[22:08] <Beldar> !14.04 | alfonsojon
[22:08] <alfonsojon> I know it's not out yet, but I'm kind of annoyed by something. I have loved Unity since 11.04, but I'm getting a bit worried about all of this unity-does-all stuff
[22:08] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: apt-get update && apt-get install build-essential
[22:08] <KI7MT> Exploit, Dont know about 2.5 but 2.4: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/core.html#allowoverride
[22:09] <Exploit> k17mt: i have this verison Apache/2.4.6
[22:09] <alfonsojon> Will 14.04 support removing of smart scopes entirely (uninstall)?
[22:09] <Pici> alfonsojon: 14.04 questions belong in #ubuntu+1
[22:09] <Beldar> alfonsojon, You catch the bots message #ubuntu+1 is the channel.
[22:09] <alfonsojon> Okay
[22:09] <alfonsojon> More relevant question
[22:09] <alfonsojon> Apply what I just said to 13.10
[22:09] <alfonsojon> Can I remove the smart scopes?
[22:10] <Beldar> alfonsojon, yes
[22:10] <KI7MT> Exploit, ur on 2.4 then see link I sent above.
[22:10] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: okay i ran the update command, it is running those commands and doing its thing.
[22:10] <glitsj16> intrader: look for 7z, 7za, 7zr and/or p7zip as cli commands depending on which p7zip package(s) you installed, it has no GUI of its own, but once installed it should show up in file-roller (even with password protection options)
[22:10] <mobileRoda> This does not happen when i put in live cd 'the user can gain access to the advanced boot options by pressing any key when the logo accessibilty ligo appears at the bottom of the screen' I dont get to see thst, just black and white boot options. how can i fix please? will solve all my problems
[22:10] <alfonsojon> Beldar: apt-get purge xxx?
[22:11] <alfonsojon> as in what package do I remove to remove the smart scopes?
[22:11] <mrtakdeniz> hi guys
[22:11] <mrtakdeniz> Is there any ubuntu support channel, or will I ask from here?
[22:11] <Beldar> alfonsojon, here is a shopping and scopes thread. http://askubuntu.com/questions/366238/how-do-i-remove-only-shopping-searches
[22:11] <k1l> !details | mrtakdeniz
[22:12] <Beldar> mrtakdeniz, This is ubuntu support, ask away.
[22:12] <mrtakdeniz> I have a problem with Skype.. I'm running 13.04 x64 version. When I making a video call from skype, there was no sound. So I checked from the skype options, but on Sound tab, there is no my speaker driver on hardware list. Only HDMI outputs
[22:13] <mrtakdeniz> But my monitor is not supporting HDMI audio, so I need to choose analog
[22:13] <mrtakdeniz> But there was no analog option on the list, same on "ringing" tab
[22:13] <alfonsojon> Beldar: That confirmed my belief
[22:13] <alfonsojon> There's no way to remove the lenses via package.
[22:13] <mobileRoda> please anyone? ive been in here on my phone for an hour trying to fix. just wondering why i cant get to adv boot options now.
[22:13] <mrtakdeniz> How I can disable HDMI Sound? I checked from sound settings, on the Output tab, there is only "Speakers - Build-in Audio", no HDMI or etc.
[22:14] <Beldar> alfonsojon, what belief, here is another thread list that may be more of what you want. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=remove+smart+scopes
[22:14] <mobileRoda> just want to hit f6 and fix like before. using same distro file, just disc, not usb now
[22:14] <demophobia> Adding mp3s to my music library, I see the Import Error, "Additional GStreamer plugins are required to play this file: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder". How do I install these plugins to play these files? I have also encountered the Error, "Your GStreamer installation is missing a plug-in." Is this error referring to the same plugin as the other error message?
[22:15] <bekks> mrtakdeniz: You should update to 13.10, 13.04 will be EOL in a few weeks.
[22:15] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: that all done?
[22:15] <mrtakdeniz> demophobia, try "ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[22:15] <alfonsojon> I might just use 12.04
[22:15]  * demophobia reads https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[22:15] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: still running the setting up and what ever, almost done
[22:15] <mrtakdeniz> bekks, I can't. Cause it is not default ubuntu dist. It is a derivative called as "PearOS"
[22:15] <alfonsojon> With the LibreOffice and GIMP 2.8 PPAs.
[22:15] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: it is done now
[22:16] <Beldar> mobileRoda, Have you looked at the uefi wiki?
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: exit
[22:16] <bekks> mrtakdeniz: Then it isnt supported in here, sorry.
[22:16] <mrtakdeniz> bekks, anyway, I did "apt-get upgrade" and "apt-get dist-upgrade". So my kernel is up to date.
[22:16] <Psil0Cybin> okay exited that  root shell.
[22:16] <demophobia> how do i choose the software manager when clicking an apt link?
[22:16] <demophobia> i don't know where to navigate to choose the software manager
[22:16] <[[a]> is there anyway to see "whois scanning my ports" I mean like sniffer or soemthing
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: now look at: ls -l ~/coocooachoo/var/cache/apt/archives/
[22:17] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6717498/
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> [[a] thats usually half the internet
[22:18] <mobileRoda> baldur, i have spent many hours today and before trying. got it working once before with the help of another member but i dont have a running sys to readily research
[22:18] <Psil0Cybin> problem the server is 64 bit
[22:18] <demophobia> mrtakdeniz, it's telling me Libav codec library and Libav utility library must be removed to install Ubuntu restricted extras, and I don't know how to do that ...
[22:18] <demophobia> or why that must be done ...
[22:18] <Psil0Cybin> i notice all packages are for i386....sigh
[22:18] <demophobia> it only gives me the option of 'cancel' or 'install anyway'
[22:18] <mrtakdeniz> demophobia, try "sudo apt-get remove --purge libav*"
[22:18] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: ahh
[22:19] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: oh noooooo...
[22:19] <mobileRoda> baldur, my secure/fast boot is always off
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: is your laptop 32bit?
[22:19] <Psil0Cybin> yes hitsujiTMO sighhh :(
[22:19]  * demophobia reads http://askubuntu.com/questions/153884/why-does-ubuntu-restricted-extras-want-to-remove-some-libav-packages
[22:19] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: guess i should have asked that first
[22:19] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: its okay its my fault, you are helping too many people :) its hard to keep track.
[22:19] <Beldar> mobileRoda, Tab complete nicks, that way we are actually notified. Have you imaged the windows and have a recovery disc made and resized windows with it's partitioner leaving a unallocated for ubuntu.
[22:19] <[[a]> hitsujiTMO, I know but i wanna see it in real mode,
[22:19] <Psil0Cybin> hitsujiTMO: should I remove, the coocooahoo file?