[05:12] <linoleum> Kix:  is it a bit too complicated ... I'm just a student I dont need a powerfull IDE. Dev c++ is good because it's "simple"
[05:13] <refefer_> xtknight: hmm, supposedly my resolution is listed in each section... how do I go about selecting it?
[05:13] <xtknight> why can't i open rpm files with mc?  it says inconsistent extfs archive?
[05:13] <linoleum> boss: ok I take a look
[05:13] <nomad111> i installed 915resolution package for my dell inspiron 6400 to get 1280x800 resolution but its not working
[05:13] <xtknight> refefer_, you must restart your X server
[05:13] <rrittenhouse> msand: thanks. Ok I have an 160GB Western Digital IDE Drive. I have feisty on it now actually but its a messy upgraded version and I just wanted to install a clean install of Fesity. I do have a problem where grub takes like 2 minutes to get through maybe its related IDK?
[05:13] <kbidd> Alonea, if nobody knows here, try asking in #kubuntu
[05:13] <FireJet> Can someone please take a look at this for me: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3082163.0
[05:13] <sabgenton> how do i run stuff in the background in bash?
[05:13] <xtknight> refefer_, press ctrl alt backspace to terminate everything instantly (youll lose all documents)
[05:13] <Alonea> kbidd: I did already
[05:13] <xtknight> refefer_, or you could properly logout or reboot but those aren't as fast/fun ;)
[05:13] <sabgenton> so i can close the bash sesion and  the comand keeps running
[05:13] <drumline_> I can't believe Ubuntu did this to my computer.   It can't see the partition on boot and NTDLR is missing on the XP side of things.
[05:13] <rrittenhouse> msand: Motherboard is D875PBZ just using onboard IDE nothing special
[05:13] <Alonea> I am trying to read this how to page and its all gnome and I wanted to do it on KDE (its beryl)
[05:13] <Kix> linoleum: I dont believe it's any more difficult? I've used Dev c++ alot? Kdevlop is a bit much... else you could just use good ol' gedit and the CLI :p
[05:14] <GionnyBoss> linoleum: consider using Eclipse with C plugin... it's easier ;)
[05:14] <Drk_Guy> Ok, i opened the console, i have typed that stuff in, and it is downloading some stufff
[05:14] <Pie-rate> coz_: i want to just use the restricted device manager in feisty for nvidia drivers, at least until there's a new driver which i *need* in order to get a bug fix (namely when they fix the black windows bug)
[05:14] <Drk_Guy> What now
[05:14] <ardchoille> sabgenton: You can try putting a "&" on the end of the command (command &) but it doesn't always work.
[05:14] <refefer_> xtknight: I don't think I made myself understandable, but under each subsection for "screen" it lists my resolutions for each depth, but doesn't specify which one to use
[05:14] <xtknight> refefer_, oh.  it uses the highest by default i believe.
[05:14] <coz_> Pie-rate, oh I see well being that the upgrade will be a new kernerl you will probably still have to reinstall that driver
[05:14] <Drk_Guy> What now???????
[05:14] <xtknight> refefer_, but you change it with system->prefs->screen resolutions
[05:14] <xtknight> refefer_, or ctrl alt PLUS and ctrl alt MINUS
[05:15] <linoleum> Kix: ok I'm going to give a try with anjuta
[05:15] <coz_> Drk_Guy, what have you don so far
[05:15] <kbidd> my computer is rejecting incoming connections -- iptables-save gives an empty output -- any ideas?
[05:15] <Pie-rate> coz_: how do i uninstall the driver?
[05:15] <rrittenhouse> msand: im having the same problem as described here https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/5370
[05:15] <linoleum> GionnyBoss: I m going to have a look at eclipse too . Tkx
[05:15] <coz_> Pie-rate, no need to unintsll it
[05:15] <xtknight> solved.  mc wasn't opening RPMs because i needed the 'rpm' package.
[05:15] <Drk_Guy> I have opened the terminal, copy and pasted "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin sun-java6-jre sun-java6-fonts" in the terminal and it is downloading some files
[05:15] <refefer_> xtknight: the 1280x800 isn't in the screen resolutions selector, only 4:3 resolutions are there
[05:15] <wastrel> kbidd:  could be the specific service config
[05:15] <GionnyBoss> linoleum: anjuta is similar to kdevelop... consider eclipse with c plugin. I use this for my university. There's a good debugger inside, too :)
[05:15] <xtknight> refefer_, yea you have to restart X first
[05:15] <Drk_Guy> But i already have the installer
[05:15] <xtknight> refefer_, after modifying xorg
[05:15] <Pie-rate> coz_: i want to before i do the upgrade
[05:15] <xange> I went through this how-to in order to get beryl workin in feisty and its working with the exception of the screen seeming fuzzy and on the desktop there seems to be some discoloartion going on - http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/how-to-install-beryl-with-latest-nvidia.html
[05:15] <JACKBAUER_AL> Who uses Debian?
[05:16] <kbidd> wastrel, this computer is the DMZ on my network, and several apps are complaining of a firewall.
[05:16] <Pie-rate> JACKBAUER_AL: no one.
[05:16] <Possum> How can I check if an Ubuntu CD has errors or not without rebooting and running the CD check?
[05:16] <zack> hello guys, one quick question im looking for a deskapp that looks like the default one in DSL linux, its all txt and quite large anyone know what its called?
[05:16] <Pie-rate> JACKBAUER_AL: well, hardcore RMS wannabes, i guess.
[05:16] <captaintrips> damnit, i cant get java working
[05:16] <fantasia> cd with errors?
[05:16] <Possum> It might have errors, I don't know
[05:16] <xtknight> yeah noone uses debian anymore
[05:16] <kbidd> i use debian
[05:16] <carlhempel> lol
[05:17] <fantasia> you say md5 check failed?
[05:17] <coz_> Pie-rate, ok let me see if i can remember the command to uninstalll it
[05:17] <Possum> A Feisty Cd
[05:17] <wastrel> kbidd:  so you can't connect to the ubuntu machine in the DMZ from clients on the LAN?
[05:17] <Drk_Guy> Ok, i think i will leave it downloading those files
[05:17] <msand> rrittenhouse: Beats me, sorry.  I have a WD 160 GB IDE drive and no problems with Feisty seeing it.
[05:17] <sabgenton> ardchoille: yes i rember doing that now
[05:17] <linoleum> GionnyBoss: tkx mate I definitly going to try this one too :)
[05:17] <zak_> Possum: you could *probably* run an md5 checksum on /dev/cdrom, and compare it with an md5 checksum recorded on the ubuntu download page [assuming they're put up there] ... someone should be able to help you out
[05:17] <Possum> fantasia, Not exactly getting it... the iso is fine
[05:17] <Drk_Guy> Ciao friends, and thanks for everything
[05:17] <captaintrips> ln: creating hard link `./libjavaplugin_oji.so' to `/usr/java/jre1.6.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so': File exists... why wont it work? still says i need to install it on firefox
[05:17] <coz_> Pie-rate, try this   sudo /usr/bin/nvidia-installer --uninstall
[05:17] <bradyc> msand: same here.  I've got all kinds of drives that work just fine.
[05:17] <Pie-rate> coz_: found it
[05:17] <refefer_> xtknight: no such luck, I just reset X and the resolution isn't there
[05:17] <captaintrips> oh, nvm
[05:17] <captaintrips> now i c
[05:17] <Possum> zak_, okay, lemme check
[05:17] <kbidd> westrel, no, connections from the outside the network arent getting to my computer even though its the DMZ.
[05:17] <aubade> xtknight: I do. :(
[05:17] <sabgenton> ardchoille: the other way is to use screen but i want a bash soultion
[05:17] <rrittenhouse> msand: Alright. As i was saying I had other problems where grub takes like 2-3 minutes just to get through. Maybe that has something to do with it? Im not sure... thanks for your help
[05:17] <xtknight> refefer_, pastebin your xorg.conf please
[05:17] <Josesordo> how to install kiba-dock??
[05:17] <xtknight> !pastebin | refefer_
[05:17] <ubotu> refefer_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:17] <finch> refefer, using nvidia driver?
[05:17] <xtknight> aubade, my condolences
[05:17] <xtknight> :P
[05:17] <bradyc> refefer_: having resolution issues too when using the nvidia driver :-(
[05:18] <captaintrips> i think
[05:18] <captaintrips> lol
[05:18] <GionnyBoss> linoleum: no problem. Just remember that Eclipse on his own is for Java only. You have to install C plugin to develop C apps.
[05:18] <konam> hi
[05:18] <finch> lots of people having nvidia res problems, including me
[05:18] <msand> rrittenhouse: Something flaky with the drive maybe?  Sorry I couldn't help more.
[05:18] <konam> someone have monkeymessenger installed on feisty?
[05:18] <xtknight> gksu nvidia-settings
[05:18] <xtknight> and use save to x config
[05:18] <wastrel> kbidd:  can you ping it from outside?
[05:18] <xange> does anybody have any suggestions for getting my nvidia card to work right?
[05:18] <zak_> heh, i'm surprised... i just installed office 2000 with wine, and it seems to work fine, with some minor ui glitches [mostly in the installer]
[05:18] <rrittenhouse> msand: its all good. yeah im not too sure whats up with it. It just seems ubuntu isnt seeing the drive..
[05:18] <coz_> xange, which nvidia card do you have?
[05:18] <linoleum> GionnyBoss: yes I m on the website right now.
[05:18] <kbidd> wastrel, i dont have a computer outside the network to test with.
[05:18] <msand> xange: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_nVidia
[05:18] <xange> coz_: 6800gt
[05:19] <xange> thanks msand
[05:19] <Pie-rate> coz_: do nvidia proprietary drivers play nice with xorg 7.2?
[05:19] <tehseen> Anyone have any idea to setup Motorola Q on ubuntu what module to use?
[05:19] <rrittenhouse> msand: I have feisty ON the HDD but I had a problem booting in -14 and -15 kernels it would drop me to busybox. This is running -15 maybe thats the issue and its not finding my drive
[05:19] <coz_> Pie-rate, yeah they work
[05:19] <xtknight> refefer_, additionally pastebin the output of "xrandr -q".  are you sure you reset you X server because i never saw you quit
[05:19] <Possum> zak_, yea, I found a link here, thanks :) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[05:19] <coz_> xange, ok and haveyou installed the nvidia driver
[05:19] <xtknight> refefer_, your whole desktop would have reloaded/etc
[05:19] <wastrel> kbidd:  what protocols are you serving?
[05:19] <cotton> Can someone explain this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/yankeesfan13/desktop3d.jpg
[05:20] <xange> coz_: yeah, its running...I get the splash screen but gnome is blurry as crap
[05:20] <refefer_> xtknight: very sure, my screen went blank and had to relog in after X restarted
[05:20] <xtknight> refefer_, ah hmm ok pastebin the above items i'll check them
[05:20] <refefer_> xtknight: used the X restart keys : )
[05:20] <verma> hey people .. there was this emulation program that could let me logon to my own system in a different x session ... like in a window like vnc ... anybody know what that's called .. xemu or something?
[05:20] <msand> rrittenhouse: Maybe.  Feisty's not on my WD drive, though it used to be.
[05:20] <kbidd> wastrel, ssh
[05:20] <coz_> xange, blurry??? mmm that is a new on on me... can you get a screenshot of that
[05:20] <rrittenhouse> msand: alright.. ill see what i can do.. wish i could change kernels on this live cd haha..
[05:20] <xange> coz_: how?
[05:21] <kbidd> wastrel, (its torrent applications complaining of the failed connections, but i have openssh-server installed)
[05:21] <refefer_> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16960/
[05:21] <msand> rrittenhouse: good luck
[05:21] <coz_> xange hit the print screen button then go to speedyshare.com and upload it there
[05:21] <rrittenhouse> msand: thx
[05:21] <GionnyBoss> refefer_: what's your problem? can't you use the resolution you want?
[05:21] <refefer_> GionnyBoss: no, for some reason I can't : (
[05:22] <GionnyBoss> refefer_: what can't you do?
[05:22] <GionnyBoss> refefer_: ah ok... I have the solution
[05:22] <GionnyBoss> refefer_: install 915resolution package ;)
[05:22] <xtknight> refefer_, also output of "xrandr -q"?
[05:22] <wastrel> kbidd:  i assume you can connect to ssh on localhost, and from the LAN.  anything in /etc/hosts.allow and .deny
[05:22] <wastrel> ?
[05:23] <refefer_> GionnyBoss: troubles with i810 intel driver?
[05:23] <GionnyBoss> refefer_: this solved the problem for me on my laptop with intel integrated graphic card... there's a bug that doesn't let you use different resolution, untill you install this 915resolution package and configure it
[05:23] <GionnyBoss> refefer_: yeah
[05:23] <kbidd> wastrel, I just tried localhost, it works, and then from the LAN, and that failed.
[05:23] <xtknight> GionnyBoss, why i810 doesnt let you set the res in xrog ?
[05:23] <GionnyBoss> xtknight: it's not a i810 problem... it's some intel chipset problem
[05:23] <Alonea> also, how do you add a script to your "Session Startup Programs" list in Kubuntu?
[05:23] <xtknight> !kubuntu
[05:23] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[05:24] <refefer_> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16961/
[05:24] <wastrel> kbidd:  check hosts.allow and .deny
[05:24] <xtknight> refefer_, well odd.  it must be a bug, maybe you do need the 915resolution thing
[05:24] <GionnyBoss> xtknight, refefer_ : with my Dell laptop, I had to install this 915resolution. The chipset has got a bug that "tells" that he can only display some resolution, while in reality he can display more resolutions than those
[05:24] <xtknight> GionnyBoss, ah ok thanks for the advice
[05:24] <GionnyBoss> xtknight: no problem
[05:25] <tehseen> anyone know anything about motorola q ?
[05:25] <Alonea> xtknight: no one has answered any of my questions in #kubuntu, so I am seeing if anyone will here
[05:25] <asdfasdf> im trying to do the boot from a usb flash drive the official ubuntu "easy" way, i did everything right,(i think) and it says MBR This is not a bootable floppy please insert a bootable floppy, press any key to try again HELP!
[05:25] <braveheartlion> I have a Quantum Fireball Plus KX internal hard drive sitting on my lap. Is there a way to telll how many gigs of capacity it has?
[05:25] <refefer_> GionnyBoss: any idea if I need to restart X?
[05:25] <xange> coz_: k, one second
[05:25] <Crazytom> pandimus, please rejoin
[05:25] <filch> braveheart: google the model number
[05:25] <theTrav> Makefile:201: *** You need to have SDL installed in order to run OpenTTD on UNIX. Use DEDICATED if you want to compile a CLI based server.  Stop.
[05:26] <Alonea> xtknight: its a bit frustrating to find all these instructions for ubuntu and not being able to apply to kubuntu
[05:26] <xtknight> braveheartlion, there is usually a label?
[05:26] <theTrav> I went into package manager and checked, I've got sdl installed already
[05:26] <GionnyBoss> refefer_: install the package and set it up. Read the man page... it took me some time to configure this 915resolution correctly and now I don't remember exactly to be honest. I would have to read the man again. Install this, read the man, configure it, and restart x
[05:26] <braveheartlion> xtknight: i don't have the box.
[05:26] <xtknight> Alonea, eh well there are some wikis that use ubuntu and Kub
[05:26] <xtknight> braveheartlion, label on the HD itself i mean
[05:26] <kbidd> wastrel, where are those files?
[05:26] <theTrav> specifically I've got libsdl1.2debian-all
[05:27] <msand> alonea: I agree.  I started with kubuntu but switched to ubuntu for that reason.  I do prefer KDE, but I'm getting used to Gnome now.  Not that that helps your problem, heh.
[05:27] <Comrade-Sergei> im trying to do the boot from a usb flash drive the official ubuntu "easy" way, i did everything right,(i think) and it says MBR This is not a bootable floppy please insert a bootable floppy, press any key to try again HELP!
[05:27] <wastrel> kbidd:  /etc/hosts.allow   /etc/hosts.deny  (nothing should be enabled by default... just make sure tho)
[05:27] <Alonea> msand: I didn't like gnome much on gentoo
[05:27] <Caplain> i set up a bridge and put my wlan0 and eth0 on it and set an ip address for br0 but it doesnt work
[05:27] <braveheartlion> Xteven:   i see many labels. they have product numbers, serial numbers, but no number followed by "gb".
[05:27] <theTrav> or do I need the dev package as well?
[05:27] <captaintrips> i cant figure this out, i followed the directions for installing java but it still doesnt work. i installed it and did the ln thing
[05:27] <captaintrips> nada
[05:27] <oswaldo> hello i am looking for the pakage xwinwrap but i cant find it in the repositories i am using fiesty
[05:27] <GionnyBoss> xtknight: lol I was talking to refefer but he left :S I hope he will not have problems to configure this 915resolution thing, it's not so easy :P
[05:27] <kbidd> wastrel, those files dont exist.
[05:28] <xtknight> GionnyBoss, heh hope so
[05:28] <kbidd> theres an /etc/hosts file, but not /etc/hosts.allow or .deny
[05:28] <msand> alonea: I've gotten used to it.  And it's gotten better since I last tried it a few years ago.
[05:28] <captaintrips> even had use javascript checked
[05:28] <oswaldo> where i can find more apt lines? for fiesty?
[05:28] <xange> coz_: http://www.speedyshare.com/592319819.html
[05:28] <filch> gionn: whats your 915res issue?
[05:28] <msand> Comrade-Sergei, did you make the usb stick bootable?
[05:28] <GionnyBoss> xtknight: this IS a weird thing. I spent 2 days to understand why it didn't work and then I found this cool 915resolution thing :)
[05:28] <wastrel> kbidd:  interesting..  try creating them (blank is fine.)   -rw-r--r-- 1 root root
[05:29] <coz_> xange, oklet me look
[05:29] <xtknight> GionnyBoss, seems very strange, i'm surprised it's not fixed yet
[05:29] <Comrade-Sergei> msand i think so
[05:29] <coz_> xange, I see the fesity desktop but where is the blurry?
[05:29] <kbidd> wastrel,  no change
[05:29] <noelferreira> how can i find a file in feisty=
[05:29] <Alonea> msand: I think i am just going to give up trying to install beryl
[05:29] <noelferreira> ?
[05:29] <noelferreira> ??
[05:30] <Comrade-Sergei> msand i put the  kernal in there did the dosfs syslinux stuff etc...
[05:30] <GionnyBoss> xtknight: I read something that this 915resolution package will be included automatically, but apparently it is not included in feisty yet. Maybe next Ubuntu distro? :P
[05:30] <xtknight> !gutsy
[05:30] <msand> alonea: Ah.. too bad, I love Beryl.. once I got past the Nvidia problems lol
[05:30] <xange> coz_: it's hard for me to explain becasue when I look at the PNG its blurry to me...
[05:30] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[05:30] <Caplain> beryl? good luck!
[05:30] <msand> Comrade-Sergei: I was going to suggest syslinux, but if you did that, you're beyond what I know about it, sorry.
[05:31] <kbidd> wastrel, any ideas?
[05:31] <Comrade-Sergei> im trying to do the boot from a usb flash drive the official ubuntu "easy" way, i did everything right,(i think) and it says MBR This is not a bootable floppy please insert a bootable floppy, press any key to try again HELP!
[05:31] <coz_> xange, ok well I think this is a tuff one to deal with withught knowing exactly what I am looking for but perhaps someone here might be familiar witht hat problem  sorry to take up your time
[05:31] <noelferreira> how can i serch for a file?
[05:32] <msand> xange, it's not blurry when you're not using beryl?
[05:32] <ardchoille> http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4163/hwerrorls9.jpg
[05:32] <ardchoille> Oops, wrong channel, sorry
[05:32] <wastrel> kbidd:  sry that's all i've got...
[05:32] <blazemonger> is there a ubuntu that doesnt crash+freeze with 3d screensavers
[05:32] <xange> msand: still blurry when i switch back to metacity
[05:32] <Alonea> msand: well, its getting to be too much trouble. I really wanted to try it, but if its this hard then I got better things to do.
[05:33] <wastrel> blazemonger:  do you have DRI configured ?
[05:33] <kbidd> can anyone tell me why my computer is blocking all incoming connections (LAN and WAN)?  iptables-save is empty.
[05:33] <cobrien> What's the command to reset the x settings?   my max rez is way too low...
[05:33] <captaintrips> ok, java hates me
[05:33] <kalifornia909> can anyone help me install 7.04 to a raid 0 setup
[05:33] <Comrade-Sergei> msand syslinux.cfg you mean?
[05:33] <msand> alonea: Yeah... sorry I can't help.
[05:33] <captaintrips> i installed it and enabled it in firefox and it still doesnt work
[05:34] <blazemonger> i had it
[05:34] <blazemonger> i have gnewsense on now
[05:34] <oswaldo> where i can find more apt lines? for fiesty?
[05:34] <blazemonger> i'm trying alot of distros
[05:34] <msand> Comrade-Sergei I mean the syslinux command
[05:34] <roachk71> cobrien: Are you asking for the default settings?
[05:34] <Geoffrey2> oh, where would I find the partition manager in Feisty?
[05:34] <captaintrips> google is your friend oswaldo
[05:34] <GionnyBoss> filch: I had to install 915resolution package to use the native resolution of my dell laptop with an integrated intel graphic card. Without this package, I could use only resolution up to 1024x768.
[05:34] <filch> GionnyBoss: I've had that issue as well in the past
[05:34] <Comrade-Sergei> msand ok what was that supposed to be?
[05:34] <oswaldo> i look but crap  no results
[05:34] <oswaldo> :(
[05:34] <msand> xange: LCD screen?  Seems like a problem with resolution or something, since the screen cap is clear to me.
[05:34] <NemesisD> mysql killed my feisty upgrade :(
[05:35] <mevets> hey
[05:35] <Geoffrey2> I'm sure I used to see it under the System menu....not sure if I'm just overlooking it....
[05:35] <xange> msand: yeah, but it was running fine before I started using nvidia drivers
[05:35] <mevets> amarok isnt connecting to my ipod, its already mounted but wont show up
[05:35] <GionnyBoss> filch: fortunately, it worked good for me. So I suggested to a man here with the same problem.. now he left, I hope he will resolve his problem!
[05:35] <msand> Comrade-Sergei: umount the usb drive, the run syslinux /dev/sda1 (or /dev/??? whatever your usb is)
[05:35] <kalifornia909> any experienced installers to raid out ther
[05:35] <xtknight> what does syslinux do?
[05:35] <kbidd> can someone tell me what would be blocking incoming connections from other computers in my LAN if iptables-save is empty?
[05:35] <xange> msand: could it by vsync?
[05:35] <mevets> That sound like any particular problem?
[05:36] <msand> xange: Did you adjust the xorg.conf file?  Beryl needs a few options turned on
[05:36] <xtknight> xange, what's the problem?
[05:36] <Comrade-Sergei> msand 1536000 is 1.5 gb of ram right?
[05:36] <cobrien> roach: nah... was looking to reset the settings so I could use a much higher rez...  I found them.  dpkg-reconfigure
[05:36] <noelferreira> people
[05:36] <xange> msand: I added what the how-to told me to
[05:36] <roachk71> If that's the case, it's 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg'
[05:37] <bobesponja> hey, I've just upgraded from edgy to feisty
[05:37] <DanZ3> I installed vim-gnome from the "add/remove" programs thing and it isnt showing up in my applications menu
[05:37] <cobrien> schweet.. thanks
[05:37] <xange> xtknight: after install nvidia drivers (and switching xorg to use them) its all fuzzy
[05:37] <noelferreira> i need to find a file in /etc/lib. how can i search for it?
[05:37] <roachk71> Oh, ok
[05:37] <testingltsp> help: I've installed edubuntu with LTSP, but unable to login user in terminal, always kicked back to login screen
[05:37] <xtknight> xange, are you using the lcd screen's native resolution?  additionally are you using vga or dvi?
[05:37] <bobesponja> my mouse doesn't work as before, I can't open tabs by clicking on the mouse wheel and I can't past by clicking on the mouse wheel, any idea how to fix it, it's really annoying :(
[05:37] <msand> Comrade-Sergei: That's 1.5 Mb
[05:37] <xange> xtknight: dvi and yes I'm using the native
[05:38] <Comrade-Sergei> ty
[05:38] <Comrade-Sergei> wait
[05:38] <peeps> noelferreira, you can use tab completion if you know the first part of the filename
[05:38] <xtknight> xange, hmm i guess i dont know what fuzzy means.  what's fuzzy?  the fonts?  pictures?  everything?  obviously you can see text fine?
[05:38] <testingltsp> help: I've installed edubuntu with LTSP, but unable to login user in terminal, always kicked back to login screen, reinstalled ubuntu with ltsp, same thing happens
[05:38] <J-_> how can I unsave an auto connected channel from irssi? =S (if that makes sense)
[05:38] <Comrade-Sergei> msand what would 1.5 gb be 15360000 then?
[05:38] <tankcat> how big (in MB) is the upgrade from edgy to feisty?
[05:38] <bullgard4> uUsing ysm I could send a message to my friend but could not receive one. What prerequisite did I not meet?
[05:38] <xtknight> xange, (well i do understand that just because you can see it doesnt mean it's perfect but at least it's not horrible)
[05:38] <noelferreira> peeps: i need to search for a file in my /
[05:38] <xange> xtknight: it differs. some fonts are fuzzy. issi looks about 90% correct
[05:38] <peeps> noelferreira, or you can use the find command.  find -iname path filename
[05:38] <wastrel> bobesponja:  in firefox?
[05:39] <xtknight> xange, and this doesnt happen on nv or vesa?
[05:39] <Cosmo_> I was attempting to upgrade my mother's laptop from 6.10 to 7.04 and I am not sure what she did but when I boot up now on it it goes to the command line and says "/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off" any way to fix this?
[05:39] <xange> xtknight: not in nv
[05:39] <xange> xtknight: haven't tried vesa
[05:39] <bobesponja> wastrel: firefox for the tabs and everywhere else for pasting
[05:39] <xtknight> xange, that's odd.  have you messed with the gnome font options at all?
[05:39] <noelferreira> peeps: i don't know the path of that file
[05:39] <jrib> DanZ3: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vim/+bug/3222
[05:39] <GionnyBoss> bobesponja: maybe your mouse is configured as 2 buttons only. Try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and just hit "enter" for all the options that has got nothing to do with your mouse (video card, and that stuff). Just hitting enter will leave the settings that are already setted. When it asks for mouse, if it's set as 2 buttons, change it as 3 buttons and restart x
[05:39] <testingltsp> any ltsp experts here?
[05:39] <xange> xtknight: nope
[05:39] <Zaehlas> Hello all, I've been trying to get sound working for multiple applications at once (namely teamspeak and cedega), however, in all my furustrations, switching from alsa, to OSS 4.0 and now back, a seem to have partially destroyed my linux headers.  I've tried using apt-get to --purge remove and then install again, but I can't make anything right now.  How do I restore the linux headers?
[05:39] <xtknight> xange, if not try enabling lcd subpixel scaling and see if it all looks consistent?  i dont know..
[05:39] <xange> xtknight: its not just fonts
[05:39] <blazemonger> do u think the reason the4 molecule saver froze was cuz i didnt have a custom kernel?
[05:39] <Pie-rate> why can't firefox on ubuntu render ANYTHING properly?
[05:39] <testingltsp> any ubuntu 7.04 + LTSP5 success here?
[05:39] <peeps> noelferreira, use root as the path, it will search recursively
[05:39] <xtknight> xange, what refresh rate are you sending the lcd?  proper frequency range?
[05:39] <Comrade-Sergei> msand what would 1.5 gb be 15360000 then?
[05:40] <testingltsp> any edubuntu 7.04 + LTSP5 success here?
[05:40] <atariboy84> hey guys
[05:40] <xtknight> xange, i would type "sudo nvidia-settings" and look around in there
[05:40] <xange> xtknight: thats what I was trying to figure out...I don't see that setting in xorg.conf at all
[05:40] <tankcat> how big (in MB) is the upgrade from edgy to feisty?
[05:40] <thebillywayne> do I have to restart gdm to initialize 915resolution?
[05:40] <peeps> noelferreira, do it as sudo or you will get a bunch of access denied errors
[05:40] <jughead> thebillywayne, you might have to restart x (ctrl+alt+bksp)
[05:41] <testingltsp> how to grant remote access to user in ubuntu?
[05:41] <msand> Comrade-Sergei:<PHONE_NUMBER>  I suppose.  At least, the places should be right
[05:41] <jrib> DanZ3: you should be able to right click on the ubuntu icon > edit menus  and then enable the gvim entry under "Accessories"
[05:41] <thebillywayne> thx jughead.  i'll try that.
[05:41] <EvilDennisR> wtf is the chmod mode so anyone in a group can add files to a directory owned by someotheruser:group.. I thought it was chmod g+s
[05:41] <peeps> testingltsp, ssh?
[05:41] <xtknight> xange, what setting?
[05:41] <xtknight> xange, you dont see frequency range?
[05:41] <Opiate> How do you list processes and a switch to limit it to 30 or so.
[05:41] <xange> xtknight: yeah! Force Full GPU Scaling fixed it
[05:41] <xtknight> xange, do mess around with "sudo nvidia-settings".  it doesnt use...
[05:41] <xtknight> good job
[05:41] <Comrade-Sergei> msand i think that was my problem
[05:41] <testingltsp> peeps: i think so
[05:41] <xange> thanks xtknight
[05:41] <xtknight> but that would mean youre not using the native res
[05:41] <xtknight> probably
[05:41] <Opiate> In CLI*
[05:41] <yashton> question: I'm running Ubuntu server 7.04, on original install, i selected dvorak keyboard layout, thinking i'd want to try it, but now i want a regular qwerty setup. I've tried to install console-data and run dpkg-config on that. Also tried to use loadkeys, but i can't find where ubuntu stores keyboard layouts.
[05:41] <noelferreira> peeps: find -i ?
[05:42] <bobesponja> GionnyBoss: with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I need to reconfigure all my xserver, I just tried and it asked me to chose between my keyboards, video cards etc with bad default
[05:42] <xtknight> xange, what does frontend and backend res say?  if they're not the same, you're not on native
[05:42] <GaiaX11> Hi
[05:42] <HYPOCRISY> confidential
[05:42] <GionnyBoss> bobesponja: yeah.. .but as I told you, just hit "enter" if you don't want to change the current setting
[05:42] <testingltsp> peeps: i tot edubuntu taking care of it, but still can't login to ltsp terminal
[05:42] <xange> xtknight: where do i find that?
[05:42] <xtknight> xange, well the force gpu scaling setting is permanent, no xorg mod needed so i guess you're good to go on that front.  i'd still be curious as to why that fixed it.  as i said if frontend/backend are different then somehow you're not using the native
[05:42] <xtknight> xange, same place as force gpu
[05:43] <xange> xtknight: they match the native
[05:43] <xtknight> xange, and if you un-click force gpu they stil, match?
[05:43] <xtknight> still*
[05:44] <thebillywayne> well, I've followed the 915resolution instructions exactly, and I still can't get either 1600x1200 or 1440x900.  any ideas?
[05:44] <noelferreira> peeps: i need to find this file dvb-ttpci-01.fw in my entire system. what would be the command?
[05:44] <xange> xtknight: yeah
[05:44] <GionnyBoss> bobesponja: you should have for all xserver settings the current value, so if you hit "enter" key you just leave the current setting for that thing. When it asks for mouse, be sure that it's setted right
[05:44] <Doughy> I think Beryl overwrote some of my gnome settings and now I am having re-login problems.  Does anyone know how I can re-install gnome to reset my config files without losing anything?
[05:44] <xtknight> xange, well that's very odd. oh well, must be a bug
[05:44] <elkbuntu> testingltsp, did you try #edubuntu ? people there are more likely to have used it
[05:44] <pipegeek> Hi, folks.  Just had a quick question about a bit of weirdness in the version of gnome that ships with feisty, and I'm wondering if anyone can reproduce it.  The panel trash bin doesn't seem to respond to being full, on a new, clean install.  That is, it doesn't matter whether there's anything in the trash; the bin always appears empty, and so can't be emptied, except by actually opening the trash and emptying it from the resulting nautilus w
[05:44] <pipegeek> indow.  Can anyone confirm this?
[05:44] <peeps> noelferreira, sudo find / -name dvb-ttpci-01.fw
[05:44] <xtknight> xange, oh woops i should be asking you to compare frontend/backend and native, not frontend TO backend
[05:44] <testingltsp> elkbuntu: I've tested edubuntu & ubuntu, the result is the same
[05:44] <xtknight> xange, ideally they should all be the same under force gpu and no force gpu
[05:44] <peeps> noelferreira, or use iname.  the difference is that iname is case insensitive
[05:44] <xange> xtknight: i dunno, I have a Samsung Syncmaster 930b if that means anything to you :)
[05:45] <xtknight> xange, definitely does..  1280x1024@60Hz would be native for that
[05:45] <Cosmo_> I was attempting to upgrade my mother's laptop from 6.10 to 7.04 and I am not sure what she did but when I boot up now on it it goes to the command line and says "/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off" any way to fix this?
[05:45] <testingltsp> elkbuntu: I mean 7.04
[05:45] <GionnyBoss> thebillywayne: yeah. You have to be sure that you configured it correctly and then you have to be sure that 915resolution it's booted on system boot. Use "bum" (sudo apt-get install bum), Boot Up Manager, and be sure that from bum you select 915resolution to start on boot
[05:45] <xange> xtknight: all three are the same
[05:45] <bobesponja> GionnyBoss: ok I guess I need to restart X
[05:45] <elkbuntu> testingltsp, i know, but the edubuntu folks will have used ltsp more than most people in here, hence will likely know more
[05:45] <pipegeek> This isn't true of the desktop trash icon, which can be enabled by editing gconf.
[05:45] <GionnyBoss> bobesponja: yeah
[05:45] <xtknight> xange, yup must be a bug.  oh well, it's just your lucky day that you found that fix ;P
[05:45] <xange> xtknight: no matter if I have force full on are off
[05:45] <Zaehlas> Hello all, I've been trying to get sound working for multiple applications at once (namely teamspeak and cedega), however, in all my furustrations, switching from alsa, to OSS 4.0 and now back, a seem to have partially destroyed my linux headers.  I've tried using apt-get to --purge remove and then install again, but I can't make anything right now.  How do I restore the linux headers?
[05:45] <xtknight> xange, if youre feeling ambitious maybe file a bug with nvidia?
[05:45] <xange> xtknight: guess so :-D
[05:45] <wastrel> pipegeek:  try removing and re-adding the trash applet to the panel
[05:45] <Kazol> how do I change the color of the font in the bottom panel?
[05:45] <xange> xtknight: if you give me a link..sure :)
[05:45] <wastrel> pipegeek:  mine works fine
[05:46] <xtknight> xange, haha too lazy
[05:46] <GaiaX11> !gutsy
[05:46] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[05:46] <pipegeek> wastrel: already did.  Twice :^)
[05:46] <xtknight> xange, naw hold on
[05:46] <testingltsp> elkbuntu: yes, edubuntu is easy to setup ltsp, I found ubuntu do easy to install
[05:46] <thebillywayne> thx GionnyBoss, i'll try that.
[05:46] <xtknight> xange, there is actually an Xorg  setting for the GPU scaling too.. though that box in nvidia-settings should be permanent. it must write to another file
[05:46] <Pie-rate> Zaehlas: linux sound systems are a bitch, eh?
[05:46] <testingltsp> elkbuntu: I'm using edubuntu now, the ltsp terminal still not allow me to login
[05:47] <Zaehlas> Pie-rate YES!  =D
[05:47] <xange> yay. beryl is dope!
[05:47] <Doughy> I think Beryl overwrote some of my gnome settings and now I am having re-login problems.  Does anyone know how I can re-install gnome to reset my config files without losing anything?
[05:47] <Doughy> no beryl sucks
[05:47] <GionnyBoss> thebillywayne: it's not easy to configure this 915resolution... I lost a lot of time doing it. For example I setted my 1440x900 resolution of the list (that it was a number, something like 4c) as 640x480. And then just added "640x480" in my xorg.conf. After this, for 640x480 the x server will see 1440x900 instead
[05:47] <filch> heh
[05:47] <Doughy> overwrote my configs and now my gnome is hosed
[05:47] <peeps> what is ltsp?
[05:47] <yashton> Zaehlas: yeah, sound has been very tough in all linux distros. Hopefully ubuntu studio will do some better kernel/driver things.
[05:47] <yell8w> hey folks, i check my router, firewall and sshd. all are open/running, and still i can't access using the public ip (everything's fine with the local ip ) what should i do ?
[05:47] <ReePigBree> I can not freshclam in the terminal! :(
[05:47] <elkbuntu> testingltsp, what i'm saying is the people in #edubuntu will probably be *more likely* to know the answer to your problem
[05:47] <pipegeek> Anyone else?  Just curious
[05:47] <peeps> noelferreira, did that find it?
[05:47] <Doughy> Beryl = garbage until they get some stability
[05:47] <testingltsp> elkbuntu, ohh hahaha I'm in wrong channel, thanks
[05:47] <cobrien> How would I restart my mouse daemon?
[05:47] <xtknight> xange, "When emailing<EMAIL_ADDRESS>please attach an nvidia-bug-report.log, which is generated by running "nvidia-bug-report.sh"."
[05:48] <filch> yell8w: you'll have to forward the port to the internal machine if your router is doing a nat
[05:48] <cobrien> My mouse cursor disappeared after unsuccessfully loading beryl.
[05:48] <xtknight> xange, and that command will work even on restricted drivers
[05:48] <xtknight> xange, i guess that's all you  gotta do
[05:48] <yell8w> filch, already did
[05:48] <Alonea> The APT Database could not be opened! I tried the adept lock fix thing and that didn't work.
[05:48] <ReePigBree> I can not update, my Clamav, I need help!
[05:48] <Zaehlas> yashton: Well, technically my current problem isn't sound, but compiling anything on my system cause I trashed my linux headers.  what do I do to completely restore them?   using apt-get to remove then install again is NOT resoring the files I'm missing apparently.
[05:48] <thebillywayne> GionnyBoss, so you set one for the other?
[05:48] <yell8w> filch, i'm looking at the router port forwarding page
[05:48] <noelferreira> thanks peeps
[05:48] <noelferreira> yes peeps
[05:48] <peeps> yw
[05:49] <filch> yell8w: do you see anything in the log on the linux box you're trying to hit?
[05:49] <james296> how can I change my Ubuntu boot screen back to its default after getting KDE?
[05:49] <xange> xtknight: k, I'll take care of that right now
[05:49] <xtknight> xange, thanks for taking the time
[05:49] <yashton> zaehlas: linux headers should be fixed with apt-get, not sure why that would be a problem. when in doubt do a clean install of it. *Shrug*
[05:49] <jrib> !usplash > james296    (james296, see the private message from ubotu)
[05:49] <yell8w> filch, heh, didn't think of that, one sec
[05:49] <blazemonger> do u think the reason the4 molecule saver froze was cuz i didnt have a custom kernel?
[05:50] <james296> wherre do I go to remember that?
[05:50] <bobesponja> GionnyBoss: still the same
[05:50] <wastrel> blazemonger:  i think it's because you don't have 3d acceleration set up
[05:50] <yashton> i'm trying to change my keyboard layout in the console on Ubuntu Server, any ideas?
[05:50] <blazemonger> i have a rage 128
[05:50] <Burgundavia> yashton: #ubuntu-server for server support
[05:50] <blazemonger> and i was told it supported opengl
[05:50] <binskipy2u> hey can someone tell me if they got VIRTUALBOX to work on ubuntu and/or if its in the repos?
[05:50] <blazemonger> so i have to buy a new video card?
[05:50] <GionnyBoss> thebillywayne: yeah the idea was like that... I discovered this after trying a lot. Unfortunately I don't have my laptop here now to check it (my father has got it now)
[05:50] <xtknight> yashton, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:50] <yashton> burgundavia: thanks no links on the website for that.
[05:50] <boss> Hmm, this is definitely a bug.
[05:50] <MTecknology> Is there an update for vmware server so that I can update to 7.04?
[05:50] <blazemonger> man no wonder im starting to hate pc's
[05:50] <yashton> exit
[05:51] <blazemonger> nothing will run properly on my hardware
[05:51] <boss> http://sial.org/howto/kickstart/partition/desktop -> that kickstart configuration snippet is supposed to get the root filesystem and its underlings to format properly.
[05:51] <GionnyBoss> bobesponja: that's strange. The mouse is set as 3 buttons mouse? I told you to do this thing just to check that in xorg conf the mouse was setted as 3 buttons mouse
[05:51] <wil_syd> Anyone using mt-daapd ? Which has to start first.. avahi or mt-daapd ?
[05:51] <binskipy2u> anyone here using virtualbox in fiesty?
[05:51] <boss> However, with the Ubuntu alternate install CD providing the ks option the appropriate path seems to work for everything but partitioning.
[05:51] <bobesponja> GionnyBoss: i did select the 3 buttons mouse option
[05:52] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> What's the trick to making the tty login work?
[05:52] <boss> It gets a "No root filesystem defined" error and I can't define a root filesystem because Ubuntu seems to recurse back to that error.
[05:52] <testingltsp> anybody success with ubuntu 7.04 with LTSP5?
[05:52] <testingltsp> anybody success with ubuntu 7.04 + LTSP5?
[05:52] <boss> If anyone else has seen this error, *please* let me know so that I can report it as a bug to Launchpa.d
[05:52] <peeps> binskipy2u, I have used virtualbox on Fedora Core 5, but not Ubuntu. I couldn't get it to compile from source, and just ended up installing the binary package from the Virtualboc website
[05:52] <boss> Launchpad even.
[05:52] <bobesponja> GionnyBoss: plus, before I did the upgrade to feisty it used to work with edgy and I didn't touch my xorg.conf during the upgrade so I guess it's more a driver problem or something no?
[05:52] <GionnyBoss> bobesponja: ok so at least now we now that this is correct. Unfortunately I don't know what else you should check.
[05:53] <reubs> I'm  trying to get hyperthreading going on my p4.... any takers?
[05:53] <blazemonger> i was told that a radeon 7000 PCI would make my system 30% slower than a ATI Rage 128 card
[05:53] <xtknight> boss, even if only you are having the problem just report it anyway.  it could be a problem with your particular system config and the people on launchpad will take care of it
[05:53] <bradyc> yeah, I'm having this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2478428
[05:53] <bradyc> I'm glad I'm not the only one.
[05:53] <JACKBAUER_AL> Unix bsd Users?
[05:53] <xtknight> reubs, HT should be enabled on an smp/SMT or generic kernel
[05:53] <blazemonger> compiz/beryl wont even run with my rage 128
[05:53] <concept10> reubs, hyperthreading is disabled in the ubuntu kernel
[05:53] <GionnyBoss> bobesponja: I don't know what it could be, really. I thought that it was a xorg.conf configuration problem. Unfortunately I don't have other idea... try to say your problem again here and wait for other people's help. Sorry. Good luck!
[05:54] <xtknight> concept10, per what?
[05:54] <yell8w> filch, funny thing is, i can't even ping the public ip ? #_#
[05:54] <taggie> blazemonger, i'm using a radeon 7000, it's no gaming machine, but it's a great desktop and supports compiz
[05:54] <reubs> xtknight: so i have to get the generic kernel and it should be good?
[05:54] <concept10> xtknight, per look at the config
[05:54] <reubs> thanks concept10
[05:54] <bradyc> bobesponja: nvidia restricted and only 800x600?
[05:54] <xtknight> reubs, as far as i can tell that should be the case
[05:54] <Doughy> how can I reinstall gnome without screwing things up?
[05:54] <Doughy> anyone?
[05:54] <bobesponja> GionnyBoss: ok I'm gonna ask on the forum, I do have         Option          "Emulate3Buttons"       "true"
[05:54] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> I try my user name and password at the tty prompt and it comes back with the password was unaccepted and puts me back out to another login
[05:54] <yell8w> filch, i'm restarting the remote box and router
[05:54] <xtknight> reubs, type "cat /proc/cpuinfo" and see if there are two blocks of cpu information.  if so, HT is enabled
[05:54] <xtknight> concept10, on an smp kernel HT should wrok
[05:54] <xtknight> work**
[05:54] <filch> yell8w: are you trying to reach this from inside the same network?
[05:55] <acidtabs> Can anyone help me install sauerbraten plz
[05:55] <bobesponja> bradyc: I do I have an nvdia but I'm not sure about the rest
[05:55] <boss> This error is very close to what I'm getting but not quite it.
[05:55] <boss> It's labeled as medium priority: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kickseed/+bug/48311
[05:55] <yell8w> filch, ssh works fine with the 192.168x ips, not the other one
[05:55] <concept10> xtknight, it hasnt been build with ht enabled for at least 1.5 years or more
[05:55] <bradyc> bobesponja: np sorry.
[05:55] <xtknight> concept10, i'm not sure how it is possible to exclude HT ?
[05:55] <xtknight> concept10, whats the config option name?
[05:56] <boss> medium priority bug confirmed yet not assigned to anyone :\
[05:56] <bradyc> I'm running both cores on an AMD64... not sure about HT though.
[05:56] <concept10> xtknight, i dont know, you have to find it
[05:56] <xtknight> amd64 doesnt have HT
[05:56] <xtknight> concept10, HT is a bios and cpu level thing
[05:56] <bradyc> yes, I know that.
[05:56] <xtknight> concept10, windows 2k can use it without any updates, etc
[05:56] <filch> yell8w: but if you're coming from one of the internal addresses on that subnet, and you're trying to hit the public ip of the router, the router may be doing something weird cuz it sees you coming from within the network, and not as a true external connection
[05:56] <GionnyBoss> bobesponja: that options looks right. Try to ask here again first... I'm a normal user like you, and I just tried to help... guess there could be more expert people here that can help you
[05:56] <acidtabs> Can anyone help me install sauerbraten plz
[05:57] <xtknight> concept10, HT appears to the OS as a dual CPU config nothing more nothing less
[05:57] <xtknight> thus an smp kernel will work
[05:57] <yell8w> filch, so it's my router's acting up? i mean i'm getting internet and stuff
[05:57] <yell8w> that's how i'm talking to you
[05:57] <concept10> xtknight, it doesnt
[05:57] <Cosmo_> anyone have a link to the 7.04 desktop torrent ?
[05:57] <xtknight> there are some mentions of needing to type "ht=on" at the kernel boot line
[05:57] <GionnyBoss> acidtabs: it should be so easy using sauerbraten... just extract the archive and launch it, if I remember right
[05:57] <xange> xtknight: ok, send the e-mail out for ya...I'm going to go take advantage of beryl...enjoy your right and thanks again
[05:58] <xtknight> xange, cool
[05:58] <xange> s/send/sent/
[05:58] <jason_> sup all
[05:58] <braveheartlion> i've just burned a ubuntu iso onto a cd. how can i check whether the burn is perfect?
[05:58] <concept10> xtknight, therefore its not enabled by default
[05:58] <xiambax> does the new release support intel based macs?
[05:58] <yell8w> filch, also, i have an apache running, doesn't see it
[05:58] <acidtabs> i did try to run the game after extracting it but it does not want to start
[05:58] <bradyc> braveheartlion: boot the CD and run the checker util
[05:58] <Lgndryh1> hi.....how is everyone
[05:58] <bradyc> or actually you can open it in windows too IIRC
[05:58] <xtknight> concept10, i'm not sure about feisty though
[05:59] <filch> yell8w: with port forwarding, if a connection to the external ip is initiated from a private address behind the router/firewall doing the forwarding, it tends not to work, as its expecting the connection to come from outside the network, not initiated from an address on it's private network. to test this you'd want someone on the outside to try to hit the ip on the specified ports
[05:59] <phixnay> I have a question about upgrading to feisty - why doesn't my cd drive work anymore?
[05:59] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> In Edgy, all I did was post my name and password at the tty prompt and I got into that level,  Feisty isn't letting me in though with that procedure, anyone have an idea of what to do?
[05:59] <fizz_> guys just installed 7.04, no MP3 will play, where can codecs for noatun etc.
[05:59] <xtknight> concept10, it must only be ubuntu that is like that because i have had a P4 cpu and it was detectd SMP just fine under suse, etc
[05:59] <filch> yell8w: i've seen this with firewalls i use at work for various things
[05:59] <Lgndryh1> I was wondering if i should update to the new distro
[05:59] <jrib> fizz_: did you try double clicking on an mp3?
[05:59] <GionnyBoss> acidtabs: so it's not a sauerbraten installation problem... can you paste in pastebin the error output you get, please?
[05:59] <jrib> fizz_: (in nautilus)
[05:59] <bradyc> fizz, check out the multimedia forums on the ubuntu site, there is a sticky on that subject.
[05:59] <fizz_> jrd, will do that now
[05:59] <fania> hai
[05:59] <yell8w> filch, pm ?
[06:00] <concept10> xtknight, that maybe the case, but not in ubuntu.  Some people disable HT because in some cases, it may reduce performance.
[06:00] <xtknight> reubs, place ht=on at the boot line to make sure you have hyperthreading
[06:00] <Lgndryh1> I was wondering if i should update to the new distro.....I am currently at 6.10
[06:00] <acidtabs> gionnyboss there is no error when i click run it just closes
[06:00] <chainer827> hello....I cannot install software currently on ubuntu....keeps giving me an error....can anyone help me solve this?
[06:01] <phixnay> what software?
[06:01] <braveheartlion> bradyc: thank you very much.
[06:01] <GionnyBoss> acidtabs: open a terminal and try to start it from a terminal. There you should have some error output
[06:01] <reubs> xtknight: yah, i had already done that but i was looking thro the logs and saw it was refusing to see the next one. is it worth compling my own kernel?
[06:01] <Kazol> How do I change the color of the text at the bottom panel??
[06:01] <acidtabs> let me check
[06:01] <xtknight> reubs, hmm maybe.  the kernel must be deliberately disabling HT, to which i'm very surprised
[06:01] <GionnyBoss> acidtabs: cd /path/to/your/sauerbraten/folder     and then:  ./sauerbraten
[06:02] <xtknight> reubs, so i'm not even sure a recompiled kernel would work either.
[06:02] <phixnay> Hey, I have a question about upgrading to feisty - why doesn't my cd drive work anymore?
[06:02] <GionnyBoss> acidtabs: uhm, sorry... ./sauerbraten_unix
[06:02] <linoleum_> ok I 've got a simple question : I search of an IDE. I found Geany, which is new (less than 1 year of development), and I found it on synaptic ... but then I found OpenLDev , and I wanted to install it with synaptic. but I can't find this one. that s strange because it's a 2year and half project, and they finaly reached the 1.0 version . Why can't I find it with synaptic ?
[06:02] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> Does anyone know how to crack open a tty prompt in Feisty?
[06:02] <Kazol> Does anyone here know howto change the color of the text at the bottom table?
[06:02] <Lathiat> wil_syd: avahi
[06:02] <xtknight> reubs, but give it a try. i swear my P4 HT was SMP when i had one...but i never did try ubuntu linux, only other distros like suse
[06:02] <concept10> xtknight, you shouldnt be surprised.  I told you in some cases HT reduces performance.  Also, HT is not the same as SMP
[06:02] <acidtabs> i click on display and it pop up with something
[06:02] <mhykgyver> hello everyone
[06:02] <acidtabs> i guess these are errors
[06:03] <mhykgyver> ubuntu newbie here
[06:03] <wil_syd> Lathiat: thanks
[06:03] <reubs> xtknight: thanks alot tho :) i think its disabled by default as the hyperthreading is a security risk
[06:03] <chainer827> I can't access synaptic anymore...or remove and install software on feisty....need some help
[06:03] <phixnay> linoleum_: beats me. try just searching for Open. you can always download a package of it somewhere
[06:03] <xtknight> reubs, ya i guess
[06:03] <acidtabs> its on my desktop
[06:03] <Shaba1> guys
[06:03] <Shaba1> how do I check my sound system
[06:03] <Drk_Guy> Hy
[06:03] <phixnay> chainer827: why not?
[06:03] <acidtabs> how would i do that if its located on my desktop BOss
[06:03] <GionnyBoss> acidtabs: on display? where? you don't have to click anywere. Just open a terminal and try to start the game from there
[06:03] <bullgard4> Using ysm I could send a message to my friend but could not receive one. What prerequisite did I not meet?
[06:03] <Alonea> ok, my adept/apt whatever is messed up. I can do apt-get update and thats it.
[06:03] <mhykgyver> uhmmm i hope u won't mind me asking but how can i install glib in ubuntu?
[06:03] <Drk_Guy> I am still unable of installing Java
[06:04] <Shaba1> all of a sudden I am not getting any audio on dvds or screen cast in xubuntu
[06:04] <chainer827> I installed the Ubuntu Wireless support software, and it basically made it crash
[06:04] <Kazol> How do I change the color of system font?
[06:04] <acidtabs> i tryed to open terminal but it just closes up just like run
[06:04] <Alonea> if I try to install something I get E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header
[06:04] <acidtabs> did
[06:04] <phixnay> chainer827: so what can you do now? can you login?
[06:04] <wil_syd> Lathiat: just noted in Feisty Avahi is S50 and mt-daapd is S20
[06:04] <chainer827> yes....on my computer now....just can't install, upgrade, or uninstall software
[06:05] <GionnyBoss> acidtabs: do you have 3d drivers installed and configured correctly for your graphic card? and then be sure that you installed SDL :)
[06:05] <acidtabs> my grafics are installed whats sdl?
[06:05] <acidtabs> and how would i get it
[06:05] <GionnyBoss> acidtabs: sdl library is fundamental to run this game
[06:05] <acidtabs> ic
[06:05] <GionnyBoss> acidtabs: don't remember exactly the name... search in Synaptic for packages like "SDL" or "libsdl" and install them
[06:06] <phixnay> chainer827: alright, I'm not a pro at linux or anything... but try opening a terminal, and doing "sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade"
[06:06] <newuser> hello
[06:06] <phixnay> hi
[06:06] <newuser> iam having trouble with usplash ; has anyone had success with installing usplash on kubuntu 7.04
[06:06] <GionnyBoss> acidtabs: a lot of games for linux (sauerbraten included) use sdl libraries
[06:06] <chainer827> yeah...tried those....it gives me an error message saying Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[06:07] <phixnay> chainer827: whoa, I have no idea what that means
[06:07] <acidtabs> with one should i download thats tons of them
[06:07] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> I agree that tty is invaluable to editing files in certain cases and it is in Ubuntu so it should work.  :\
[06:07] <Moosejaw> could feisty be effecting how my NIC's range is effected with my router?
[06:07] <peeps> chainer827, how much ram do you have?
[06:07] <acidtabs> i just don't want to install something that would mess my system up
[06:07] <chainer827> I have 1.5 GB Ram
[06:07] <phixnay> 0.o
[06:07] <CactusDeity> hi
[06:07] <GionnyBoss> acidtabs: why should a library mess up your system? :S
[06:08] <GionnyBoss> acidtabs: go and search on google what a library is
[06:08] <EnsignRedshirt> linoleum_: The openldev download page has an ubuntu .deb file.
[06:08] <GionnyBoss> acidtabs: if you don't trust me, go and search there
[06:08] <acidtabs> ill try to install some and see
[06:08] <Moosejaw> could feisty be effecting how my NIC's range is effected with my router?
[06:09] <phixnay> chainer827: what happens when you try to use synaptic or update manager?
[06:09] <bulmer> Moosejaw: effecting? what do you exactly mean?
[06:09] <Alonea> E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header...using apt-get and adept
[06:09] <Shaba1> Hello
[06:09] <Shaba1> how do I check my sound system
[06:09] <chainer827> i keep getting an error message with that saying error occurred while using xcal
[06:09] <Shaba1> all of a sudden I am not getting any audio on dvds or screen cast in xubuntu
[06:09] <linoleum_> EnsignRedshirt: yes I know , I just wonder why it's not in the repository (universe or multiverse)
[06:10] <peeps> Shaba1, can you get sound in any programs?
[06:10] <phixnay> shaba1: if you had to manually install kernel modules to get sound to work, you have to install them again each time you upgrade your kernel
[06:10] <cesar_> hello
[06:10] <Kazol> How do I change the color of system font?
[06:10] <cesar_> i have just updated my ubuntu to the new version
[06:10] <Shaba1> phixnayI hafe not done any kernal upgrades
[06:11] <cesar_> does anyone know why my device hard drive names have changed from /dev/hda1 or /dev/hda2 to /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2??
[06:11] <Shaba1> I hardly know whta the linux keral is
[06:11] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> Kazol, hahahaa
[06:11] <tankcat> i'm feeling adventerous. someone suggests a cool windows manager i should try
[06:11] <concept10> xtknight, check this out, I have a couple of systems with p4 HT http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotsa1.png
[06:11] <Shaba1> all I have recently done is install camaoram
[06:11] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> nice one
[06:11] <xjkx> whats the similar to adept-installer that COMES BY DEFAULT on ubuntu?
[06:11] <bradyc> cesar_: SATA drives will be seen as SDA
[06:11] <peeps> cesar_, did you swap your cables around recently?
[06:11] <Shaba1> and that sound was working even after I installed that
[06:11] <phixnay> chainer827: try running top to see if you have anything using up resources, or if there's anything else shifty going on
[06:11] <Shaba1> but now it seems not to work
[06:11] <MTecknology> I'm trying to upgrade to 7.04 through the update manager and I get an error
[06:11] <MTecknology> These are my resulting files in /var/log/dist-upgrade/ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16964/ - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16966/
[06:11] <cesar_> im sorry, i mean sda1 and sdb1
[06:11] <wil_syd> bradyc: so to IDE (PATA)
[06:12] <Kazol> MrBarkyVonShnauz: what do you mean? I need to change the color of the text on the bottom panel.
[06:12] <bradyc> Oh?  That's kinda nuts.
[06:12] <cesar_> no i havent changed or moved anything, all i did was update ubuntu
[06:12] <cesar_> i had to change my /etc/fstab file
[06:12] <cesar_> because it wouldnt mount my home directory
[06:12] <bradyc> wil_syd: is that a bug?
[06:12] <dougb> i'm having problems with LAMP, i installed all the proper packages and it all went well, but i heard that I can create "public_html" in my home directory and type in "http://localhost/~username/" as a web address and it would reroute to the proper folder, but it didn't
[06:12] <mister_roboto> xjkx: synaptic
[06:13] <Kazol> MrBarkyVonSchnauz: I do not get your humor about changing font colors.
[06:13] <chowmeined> how do I edit ogg theora files? I tried opening them with Kino but it fails
[06:13] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> Kazol, just a sarcastic remark,  colored system fonts isn't a feature with Ubuntu
[06:13] <wil_syd> bradyc: no.. by design... all moved under the scsi layer like usb drives.
[06:13] <quaal> ok so if i setup a shared printer with the URI http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/officejet_5500_series and i print a test page, it says Printing 1 jobs and then the job goes away and printer status goes back to ready, everything is working fine on the ubuntu end? I'm not getting any printout
[06:13] <bulmer> dougb you have the correct apache configuration?
[06:13] <dougb> it's all default
[06:13] <chainer827> it has something to do with the package files that synaptic accesses
[06:13] <dougb> the tutorial i went by didn't talk about needing to configure apache
[06:13] <peeps> Kazol, do you mean for the command line, or the fonts in your desktop environment?
[06:13] <cesar_> anyone know why the ubuntu upgrade would just go ahead and change the device names... ?
[06:13] <phixnay> Shaba1: what happens if you click on the volume adjustor in the menu bar
[06:14] <Kazol> MrBarkyVonShnauz: so there is no way to change the color of the text at the bottom panel (that shows the open programs)?
[06:14] <mister_roboto> cesar_: you mean the disk drives?
[06:14] <phixnay> cesar: cause it's using libsata or something now
[06:14] <bulmer> dougb you need to learn a little bit about apache
[06:14] <bradyc> wil_syd: odd...
[06:14] <cesar_> my hard drives
[06:14] <bobesponja> clicking with my mouse wheel still not working :(
[06:14] <concept10> xtknight, where did you find info on that kernel boot option?
[06:14] <dougb> bulmer: thats why i'm here
[06:14] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> Kazol, I would like to thank you for posting a message to me.  atleast I know now that my posts are making it abroad.  :)
[06:14] <xtknight> concept10, yeah i understand..HT is not enabled by default
[06:14] <cesar_> i just find it weird that it wouldnt tell me and didnt ask me if i wanted to change
[06:14] <cesar_> my etc fstab file
[06:14] <wil_syd> !ata > wil_syd
[06:14] <mister_roboto> cesar_: i don't know why but i find it kind of irritating. the old way was much more readable :)
[06:15] <bulmer> dougb this is not apache channel, there is one if you so inclined  #apache
[06:15] <xtknight> concept10, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=895077
[06:15] <cesar_> well i changed it now so now it works, but i thought i had lost my hard drive lol
[06:15] <wilberfan> is there a trick to getting .mkv files to run under feisty?!  none of my players will run 'em...
[06:15] <bradyc> cesar_: I agree if they are going to change it like that on you, they should update common files that point to said names.
[06:15] <concept10> xtknight, okay, thanks
[06:15] <peeps> Kazol, there should be some gnome display preferences somewhere where you can set that(assuming you are running gnome).  I am in XFCE right now, so I can't really look to tell you
[06:15] <alienseer23> trying to configure lirc, I followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty and every time I try to load ANY module, ($ sudo /etc/init.d/lirc start) it fails. I really don't know...?
[06:15] <AlexC> how do you uninstall from a command line?
[06:15] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> Kazol, right, I'm reminded of Henry Ford's comment..........  "You can have any color, as long as it's black."
[06:15] <phixnay> cesar: you're lucky - at least yours still work. My cdrom drive doesn't work at all any more, and no one seems to be able to fix it
[06:15] <phixnay> they all ignore me
[06:15] <wilberfan> i'm almost positive i have all my codecs installed...
[06:16] <se2131> is fiesty freezing extremely often for anyone else?  I have a Toshiba Satellite w/ an ATI Radeon 9100 fyi
[06:16] <chainer827> phixnay: I believe it has something to do with the source and package files that synaptic accesses
[06:16] <bulmer> AlexC uninstall? can you elaborate?
[06:16] <testingltsp> anybody tested LTSP5?
[06:16] <madman91> the plethora of ubuntu users disable it from giving adequate help..
[06:16] <cesar_> im worried now, i actually havent tried my disk drives
[06:16] <SeveredCross> /join #perl
[06:16] <SeveredCross> Oops.
[06:16] <AlexC> bulmer, i need to uninstall nvidia-glx, i removed a graphics card
[06:16] <alienseer23> anybody know anything about using a remote control with ubuntu??
[06:16] <madman91> too high of a problem:problemsolver ratio
[06:16] <phixnay> chainer827: in that case, try making sure your sources.list is ok
[06:16] <phixnay> cesar: good luck
[06:17] <Kazol> where do I configure programs to automatically open with specific filetypes?
[06:17] <madman91> alienseer23: what do you mean? remote host.. like controllling another computer?
[06:17] <madman91> alienseer23: if so.. VNC
[06:17] <acidtabs> Thank you much Gionny Boss
[06:17] <chainer827> phixnay: how do i do that?
[06:17] <cesar_> should i reinstall ubuntu?
[06:17] <bofh80> AlexC, and what graphics card is it running on now?
[06:17] <madman91> alienseer23: no you mean a remote control.. like TV?
[06:17] <alienseer23> madman91: sorry, no I mean remote control as in TV
[06:17] <testingltsp> alienseer23: TV remote control in Ubuntu
[06:17] <AlexC> bofh80, none, i removed it
[06:17] <phixnay> chainer827: try "locate "sources.list"
[06:17] <phixnay> whoops, double quotes
[06:17] <concept10> xtknight, i only know because ive never seen it running.. but im about to reboot and see if it works.
[06:18] <testingltsp> alienseer23: what application u r going to use with?
[06:18] <eternaljoy> is there a newsreader like newsleecher for Ubuntu that also supports SSL?
[06:18] <phixnay> "locate sources.list"
[06:18] <madman91> alienseer23: then I have NOOOooooo idea
[06:18] <ninjabob7> my time keeps jumping forward on feisty amd64
[06:18] <xtknight> concept10, ah alright
[06:18] <bofh80> AlexC, LOL, well "apt-get remove nvidia-glx" if i'm not mistaken . . .
[06:18] <jbernhardt> hey why doesn't my ubuntu detect my dvd sometimes?
[06:18] <madman91> eternaljoy: if you find one like it.. please tell me
[06:18] <Kazol> how can I make it so that vlc automatically opens when I open an .avi file?
[06:18] <AlexC> bofh80 ty
[06:18] <bulmer> AlexC: something like apt-get remove package i believe
[06:18] <eternaljoy> madman91: ditto
[06:18] <alienseer23> testingltsp: media players like vlc, amaorok
[06:18] <cesar_> my hard drives are IDE and not SCSI, why are they sda1/ sdb1??
[06:19] <cesar_> stupid
[06:19] <xtknight> cesar_, feisty uses libata
[06:19] <alienseer23> testingltsp: perhaps openoffice or some powerpoint if possible
[06:19] <phixnay> chainer827: it looks like sources.list is here "/etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:19] <xtknight> libata makes all IDEs appear that way
[06:19] <cesar_> whats that mean
[06:19] <wil_syd> cesar_: you must change... the way of the future... there was a mailing list post about it.... should be fully automagic.
[06:19] <se2131> is fiesty extremely unstable for anyone else?    I believe it is the package lists...it keeps telling me this file has something wrong with it: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[06:19] <xtknight> cesar_, libata is something in the kernel.  i dont know why they did it that way, but that's the way it is for Feisty
[06:19] <blazemonger> i have spent all week trying to get a midi sequencer working
[06:19] <cesar_> i doubt my cdrom drive will work
[06:19] <blazemonger> and rosegarden isnt showing the plugins
[06:19] <xtknight> cesar_, sure it will be fine
[06:19] <paradon> Anyone know if the Feisty server cd installs pptp-linux by default?
[06:19] <cesar_> /dev/hdd doenst exist anymore
[06:19] <xtknight> cesar_, my IDE /dev/hdx etc changed to /dev/sdc something and they work
[06:20] <eternaljoy> is there a newsreader like newsleecher for Ubuntu that also supports SSL?
[06:20] <blazemonger> and there's no midi support on my card and i cant figure out how to use timidity even after reading the documents
[06:20] <alienseer23> testingltsp: I followed the directions here for lirc https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty to no avail
[06:20] <jbernhardt> hey does anyone know why it won't play my dvd
[06:20] <phixnay> chainer827: this is getting way over my head - I'm sorry I can't really help you out that much
[06:20] <ninjabob7> what might be changing the time?
[06:20] <xtknight> eternaljoy, i'd just run newsleecher under vmware
[06:20] <phixnay> !dvd
[06:20] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:20] <eternaljoy> xtknight: i wouldnt
[06:20] <Tarkus> anyone know how i can install Java JRE? it wont work using add/remove for some reason. any suggestions?
[06:20] <eternaljoy> !newsreader
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newsreader - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <cesar_> xtnight, i had to change my /etc/fstab by hand
[06:20] <eternaljoy> how come no newsreader exists for Ubuntu?
[06:20] <chainer827> can anyone help me with this error message: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[06:20] <cesar_> which is not a big deal but im just saying
[06:21] <Crazytom> how can i get a dmesg output from a computer that locked up and had to be rebooted?
[06:21] <phixnay> cesar_: is your cdrom working?
[06:21] <xtknight> eternaljoy, there are lots acutally.  take a look at thunderbird firstly
[06:21] <kahrytan> yo
[06:21] <xtknight> cesar_, ah well i didnt even have to touch fstab
[06:21] <se2131> is there any way that I can see why my computer crashed after the fact?
[06:21] <kahrytan> I just finished installing Feisty.
[06:21] <eternaljoy> xtknight: thunderbird sucks as a newsreader
[06:21] <chowmeined> How do I edit video thats already in ogg theora or mpeg?
[06:21] <bulmer> xtknight: is your vmware guest os accessable from another puter? do you have to enable forwarding or iptables to let it become reachable?
[06:21] <xtknight> eternaljoy, wow ok
[06:21] <xtknight> very descriptive
[06:21] <xtknight> heh
[06:21] <Shaba1> anyone have any ideas
[06:21] <Shaba1> on my sound issues
[06:21] <Shaba1> ??
[06:21] <paradon> eternaljoy: try Pan
[06:21] <bofh80> eternaljoy, i just think it sucks :D
[06:22] <kahrytan> eternaljoy: But Firefox has some good newsreader extentions.
[06:22] <blazemonger> anyone have ANY idea how i can get software midi synth to work with even fluidsynth
[06:22] <xtknight> se2131, sometimes there are logs that end in .1 indicating the 'last boot'
[06:22] <xtknight> se2131, see /var/log/
[06:22] <pppoe_dude> pwnge
[06:22] <blazemonger> people that made this stuff difficult on purpose
[06:22] <bulmer> Tarkus: what have you done to try installing java jre?
[06:22] <xtknight> bulmer, i haven't actually tried accessing the vmware guest OS shared folders from another PC.  they work flawlessly every time locally
[06:22] <eternaljoy> kahrytan: like what?
[06:22] <eternaljoy> !pan
[06:22] <pppoe_dude> se2131, syslog
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <GButler> I'm having a ton of trouble with a Fiesty install; is there anyone here who might be able to help me?
[06:22] <se2131> xtknight, ok, I have apport.log.1, btmp.1, dpkg.log.1, scrollkeeper.log.1, and wtmp.1
[06:22] <Lathiat> wil_syd: ah ok
[06:22] <paradon> !info pan | eternaljoy
[06:23] <ubotu> eternaljoy: pan: A Newsreader based on GTK2, which looks like Forte Agent. In component main, is optional. Version 0.120-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 781 kB, installed size 3272 kB
[06:23] <xtknight> bulmer, from host to guest i can use shard folders fine that's what i mean
[06:23] <chainer827> can anyone help me with this error message?  -  E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[06:23] <eternaljoy> paradon: does Pan support SSL?
[06:23] <paradon> eternaljoy: dunno... one sec, I'll check.
[06:23] <xtknight> se2131, hmm well check /var/crash also.  those logs you listed wouldnt indicate a crash..except perhaps apport.log.1 which you may want to check
[06:23] <bulmer> xtknight: okay, i am looking for tips on how to access the guest os from another remote puter.
[06:23] <kahrytan> eternaljoy: I forget it's name. Don't use it often.
[06:23] <chowmeined> how do I edit already encoded video?
[06:23] <konam> someone could tell me howto get window border after the windows effects get enabled....
[06:23] <memphis> hello
[06:23] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> Tarkus,  java...  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[06:23] <HYPOCRISY> confidential
[06:23] <eternaljoy> paradon: cheers
[06:23] <cesar_> the reason i had to edit my /etc/fstab is because i mounted /home to its own hard drive
[06:24] <cesar_> and when the device names changed my home directory disappeared
[06:24] <filch> heh
[06:24] <filch> that sucks
[06:24] <Tarkus> bulmer: only through add/remove so far. (im new to linux), i also found the .bin installer on java.com but the last time i tried installing with binary (realplayer) it wouldnt let me run the software, and i couldnt remove it properly, i had to just delete the folder i installed it to.
[06:24] <xtknight> bulmer, ahh different than shared folders?
[06:24] <Lta1> thunderbird help- how do I make thunderbird start up into the inbox, instead of the "what would you like to do" esque-screen with EMAIL, ACCOUNTS, and Adv. Features catagories? changing the option under edit-preferences-general didn't seem to change anything.
[06:24] <Bhaskar1> can i migrate ubuntu 6.06 to edubuntu , Any idea? now i have ubuntu 6.06
[06:24] <xtknight> bulmer, cuz shared folders is unidirectional AFAIK.  you can only write and read from within the guest OS
[06:24] <memphis> has anyone installed/compiled video drivers for Intel 965?
[06:24] <xtknight> bulmer, you can however enable SMB within the guest OS and have it work like any other networked windows PC (enable SMB in Windows firewall)
[06:25] <bulmer> xtknight: yeah, i wanted to run a server in the guest os and access it from a client (from a remote computer)
[06:25] <se2131> xtknight: the /var/crash directory only has a couple of files that were updated a couple of days ago
[06:25] <peeps> how can i check what graphics drivers are currently in use on my comptuer?
[06:25] <se2131> xtknight: and the apport log just shows some opera pluginwrapper crashes
[06:25] <kahrytan> eternaljoy:  There is one extention that uses templates.
[06:25] <xtknight> se2131, ah i suppose youll have to wait if/until it crashes again, unfortunately.  as for next time uhh i'm not sure :\..kinda per-case basis depending on how/what's crashing
[06:25] <oldude67> ok if i have the latest version of java loaded on to this machine why cant i run frostwire?
[06:25] <eternaljoy> kahrytan: which one?
[06:26] <xtknight> bulmer, you can always run VNC from within the guest OS too
[06:26] <cesar_> hlep /dev/null throws out everything that is sent to it!1!
[06:26] <se2131> xtknight: basically I'm having problems w/ fiesty crashing every 20-30 minutes
[06:26] <xtknight> se2131, oh :\
[06:26] <GButler> After I've installed Feisty on my laptop, after the log-in screen, the desktop hangs. It cuts out of the splash screen early and cuts the log-in sound off early as well. Then, it just leaves the desktop and blank menu bars (sometimes no menu bars at all!). I can't right click, and I don't understand what's going on at all. I can boot up in recovery mode (Which I'm doing now), and when I do...
[06:26] <se2131> xtknight: it worked fine w/ edgy
[06:26] <GButler> ...that it tells me that there's an Internal Error and it cannnot initialize HAL...anyone have an idea of what's going on?
[06:26] <bulmer> Tarkus: for one, the .bin file you download have to be chmod u+x  then you need to run update-alternatives java
[06:26] <paradon> eternaljoy: apparently Pan doesn't have built in SSL support, but apparently you can use Stunnel to get the same effect.
[06:26] <xtknight> se2131, well post your "dmesg" just right now
[06:26] <xtknight> !pastebin
[06:26] <acehigh> good evening everyone
[06:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:26] <se2131> xtknight, dmesg?
[06:26] <cesar_> is feisty working fine for everyone? im afraid of trying it
[06:26] <eternaljoy> !Stunnel
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stunnel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <xtknight> se2131, type "dmesg" in the terminal.  then copy that to a pastebin and give me the link
[06:26] <eternaljoy> paradon: IS Stunnel an extension to Pan?
[06:27] <acehigh> cesar_: it seems to work fine for me except sound
[06:27] <diabolix> so.. i've seen people with a little text box on their gnome-panel that let them run a command... what is the name of that applet?
[06:27] <kahrytan> eternaljoy: http://sage.mozdev.org/
[06:27] <xtknight> cesar_, works the greatest of any distro here
[06:27] <oldude67> i have everything working for it....but i built a new system just for it.
[06:27] <xtknight> you can not determine how it will work on your PC from other peoples' PC experiences
[06:27] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> What is the channel rate in here?  (ie, A person must answer a certain amount of questions to get his answered)
[06:27] <se2131> xtknight: ok, i did dmesg and I have the output, but i'm not sure what you mean by pastebin (sorry for my ignorance)
[06:27] <bulmer> xtknight yes am able to access from the guest os to the outside world, it is the other way around i wanted to test...remote puter to guest os
[06:27] <diabolix> mini-command for gnome?
[06:27] <xtknight> !pastebin | se2131
[06:27] <ubotu> se2131: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:27] <ingo> macbook/feisty out there?
[06:28] <tabman> can I extract .rar files under ubuntu ?
[06:28] <fizz_> anyone use amarok?
[06:28] <paradon> eternaljoy: No, stunnel is a separate program that runs locally... you make Pan connect to stunnel on localhost, and stunnel connects to the NNTP server using SSL.
[06:28] <xtknight> !unrar | tabman
[06:28] <ubotu> tabman: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:28] <GButler> ...Did I just kill the chat...> O.o'
[06:28] <jrib> MrBarkyVonShnauz: nope, basically, you ask a question and if someone knows the answer (and sees your question) you get help
[06:28] <bulmer> MrBarkyVonShnauz: only if we knew the answers :)
[06:28] <AlexC> i removed a video card and it's driver
[06:28] <aimes> tabman: sudo aptitude install unrar
[06:28] <AlexC> and gnomeisn
[06:28] <thomaslai> fizz_, I use amarok
[06:28] <chainer827> can anyone help me with this error message: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[06:28] <phixnay> cesar and anyone else who wants to know about the hda to sda change - check out this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2500537#post2500537
[06:28] <AlexC> and gnome isn't working
[06:28] <concept10> xtknight, like you said, it must be disabled in the bios or something or needs to be recompiled ... it still didnt come up when I added that kopt (I used grub)
[06:28] <xtknight> bulmer, yeah you should be able to do that technically
[06:29] <eternaljoy> paradon> eternaljoy: No, stunnel is a separate program that runs locally... you make Pan connect to stunnel on localhost, and stunnel connects to the NNTP server using SSL. <-- LOL!  Any ideas how I do this? :P
[06:29] <fizz_> thomaslai, any idea how to install codecs? just installed it in feisty and it wont play mp3s, when it asks if i want to install codecs it crashes
[06:29] <xtknight> bulmer, a remote PC should be able to see the guest OS if the windows firewall is disabled
[06:29] <xtknight> or configured..
[06:29] <bulmer> xtknight right, even from the host to the guest
[06:29] <AlexC> is the a non gui text editor installed on ubuntu?
[06:29] <xtknight> concept10, odd..
[06:29] <xtknight> AlexC, vim and nano
[06:30] <bulmer> AlexC yes..go to console and use vim
[06:30] <oldude67> now can anyone tell me why i cant get frostwire to work?
[06:30] <concept10> xtknight, alot of laptop manufacturers are stupid and they disable all types of stuff
[06:30] <xtknight> nano is better for most stuff, it's less frustrating imo
[06:30] <weltschmerz> did feisty do something weird with the keymaps?
[06:30] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> jrib, so I guess I can take it that no one in here knows how to make the tty login work when it has continually rejected the user name and password.
[06:30] <memphis> can anyone direct me to compiling intel 965 vga driver?
[06:30] <xtknight> well less frustrating for n00bs
[06:30] <weltschmerz> what files now specify the standard keymaps?
[06:30] <diabolix> i geuss the debian guys are vi people?
[06:30] <Tarkus> bulmer: yea i did chmod and everyhting, and i executed the program and it said it installed succesfully (realplayer). but when i launched the software it couldnt locate "realplay" does not exist, or something. and i had to manually delete it by removing the folder i installed it to. i just dont want to have to do the same thing for java and find out that its screwed up again.
[06:30] <compgood> just out of curiosity, is any script put into /etc/init.d executed automatically on boot?
[06:30] <NemesisD> oh excellent
[06:30] <bofh80> eternaljoy, damn claws gtk2 is a nice fast email client with news support but it only has SSL support configured for SMTP or POP3 damn it, thought i was onto a winner :S
[06:30] <se2131> xtknight: sorry, computer crashed again, I'll get that link to you in a sec
[06:30] <compgood> or is there something more that must be done for one to execute?
[06:30] <NemesisD> not only did my upgrade fail but it completely busted ubuntu
[06:30] <se2131> !pastebin
[06:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:30] <NemesisD> this is awesome
[06:30] <xtknight> concept10, ah HT would seem to be one of those things they'd brag about though (omg it has HT, dual core, pmg etc)
[06:30] <jrib> MrBarkyVonShnauz: can you get to recovery mode?
[06:30] <xtknight> HT is almost always a default on afaik
[06:30] <lordhelmet> hey i'm trying to install ubuntu and it fails every time at 85%. switching to alt-f4 shows it trying to get translation stuff. have done this on feisty 64bit and edgy 64bit with alternate cd
[06:31] <rpaul> anyone know how to use the nickserv, I can't seem to get in with my preferred nickname, keeps putting an underscore after it (on freenode)
[06:31] <Shaddox> Hello everyone.
[06:31] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> jrib, I don't know if I've ever been there
[06:31] <Shaddox> What's a good firewall for a server machine?
[06:31] <paradon> eternaljoy: "apt-get install stunnel", and read the docs on http://stunnel.org
[06:31] <eternaljoy> bofh80: ty anyway
[06:31] <lordhelmet> Shaddox: iptables
[06:31] <jrib> MrBarkyVonShnauz: it only fails when you go to a tty? ie gui works?
[06:31] <rpaul> using xchat-gnome
[06:31] <bulmer> Tarkus it must have been your install process that failed..java is pretty straightforward install
[06:31] <chainer827> can anyone help me with this error message?  - Reading package lists... Error!
[06:31] <chainer827> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
[06:31] <chainer827> E: Error occurred while processing xcal (NewVersion1)
[06:31] <chainer827> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy_universe_binary-i386_Packages
[06:31] <chainer827> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[06:31] <alienseer23> !lircd
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lircd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <xtknight> bulmer, well can your local host see your guest?
[06:31] <eternaljoy> paradon: so stunnel works with Pan?
[06:31] <jrib> !paste | chainer827
[06:31] <ubotu> chainer827: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:31] <konam> someone could help me with compiz that is installed by default
[06:31] <jrib> !someone | konam
[06:31] <Shaddox> lordhelmet: Can you help me install it?
[06:31] <ubotu> konam: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:32] <concept10> xtknight, I know HP was disabling the new Intel virtulization features on the laptop motherboard somehow because alot of people complained about not being able to use those features
[06:32] <toastjam> hey, so is there anyway to get the kernel make install process to create the necessary initrd image as well?
[06:32] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> jrib, I get the login but it doesn't recognise my password
[06:32] <lordhelmet> Shaddox: it is installed, you just have to make rules. look into fwbuilder
[06:32] <paradon> eternaljoy: According to google, yes.  Really, stunnel should work with pretty much anything.
[06:32] <bulmer> xtknight: yes the host can access the guest and vice versa
[06:32] <se2131> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16967/
[06:32] <xtknight> concept10, ah i heard about dell doing that too
[06:32] <xtknight> concept10, lenovo rather
[06:32] <Shaddox> lordhelmet: I'll google it. ^^
[06:32] <wil_syd> rpaul: is that a ghost of you ? Wait till it times out.
[06:32] <lordhelmet> Shaddox: it gives you a nice gui for creating a firewall script
[06:32] <konam> ubotu i already do it: could you tell me howto get window border after the windows effects get enabled....?
[06:32] <eternaljoy> paradon: so I install Pan and Stunnel.  Then what I do?
[06:32] <jrib> MrBarkyVonShnauz: reboot and choose "recovery mode" from the grub menu.  then do 'passwd USERNAME' to set a new password.  See if that resolves things
[06:32] <toastjam> everything I read online says making and installing the kernel creates initrd, but as far as I can tell it doesn't, and my system won't boot without it
[06:32] <bofh80> eternaljoy, http://mahogany.sourceforge.net/features.html   how's about that?
[06:32] <Shaddox> lordhelmet: Does it support being used on this machine over SSH?
[06:32] <xtknight> bulmer, weird.  so other PCs on the host's LAN /can't/ access the guest..
[06:33] <rpaul> wil_syd: i registered a few months ago.  so it isn't a ghost, I just don't seem to be able to identify myself correctly
[06:33] <bulmer> MrBarkyVonShnauz: take a look at securetty  /etc/securetty
[06:33] <xtknight> se2131, pastebin "sudo lshw" also
[06:33] <lordhelmet> Shaddox: probably with xforwarding, but they have windows clients as well so you can create your script anywhere and just scp it over or something
[06:33] <concept10> xtknight, I just found this: To achieve the maximum gain from Hyper-Threading requires the 2.6 kernel compiled with the "-march=pentium4" option. This is accomplished by setting the processor to "pentium4" in the kernel configuration menu. It looks like Hyper-Threading on the Pentium4 with Linux is fact after all.
[06:33] <bulmer> xtknight: yes because the guest is usually on a different subnet
[06:33] <paradon> eternaljoy: configure stunnel to connect to your NNTPS server, and configure Pan with stunnel as it's NNTP server.
[06:33] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> jrib, cool, thanks............. bulmer I will, thanks
[06:33] <concept10> xtknight, but I have HT tired head now :)
[06:33] <xtknight> concept10, yeah its not worth all that anyway
[06:33] <lordhelmet> Shaddox: actually yes you can xforward...i have done it
[06:33] <wil_syd> rpaul:  if it puts an underscore it means the name is in use
[06:33] <memphis> which command  for checking version of kernel?
[06:34] <xtknight> concept10, as you said HD is give and take
[06:34] <xtknight> HT*
[06:34] <xtknight> sometimes increases sometimes decreases
[06:34] <lordhelmet> does anybody else have problems installing 64bit?? mine fails all the time at 85% trying to get translation stuff
[06:34] <eqweqw> nick Sourf
[06:34] <xtknight> bulmer, ahh i see
[06:34] <mlocker> Hi
[06:34] <xtknight> bulmer, maybe try NAT networking vs whatevr you were using?
[06:34] <mlocker> help me ?
[06:34] <se2131> xtknight: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16968/
[06:34] <Andruk> does anybody know how to have gnome start metacity when i log in?
[06:34] <xtknight> bulmer, in the VM options.  give it a 192.xx ip
[06:34] <mlocker> I wanna restore beryl config.
[06:35] <xtknight> Andruk, are you trying to get beryl working?
[06:35] <Kazol> where do I get themes for Konversation?
[06:35] <rpaul> wil_syd: hmm, I guess my nick must have become un reserved due to not logging in for a while.  I'll see if there is someone else with that nick
[06:35] <bulmer> xtknight: will do it..just have not enabled the iptables rules or ip_forwarding on ubuntu yet...just asking around if anyone have already done this and asking for some tips
[06:35] <NemesisD> ok so i attempted an upgrade from edgy and now when i start update manager it says "not all updages can be installed" and gives me the option of a partial upgrade
[06:35] <wil_syd> rpaul: "/msg nickserv help recover"
[06:35] <mlocker> who help me ?
[06:36] <bofh80> eternaljoy, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3100   < there's a deb file for mahognay you can download . . . . .
[06:36] <toastjam> anybody know how to get "install make" to create the initrd img that it's supposed to for the new kernel?
[06:36] <xtknight> bulmer, oh not sure.  iptables is disabled by default (or the rules set is blank) so that wouldn't be the problem with what you were describing
[06:36] <eternaljoy> bofh80: it doesnt support SSL
[06:36] <weltschmerz> does feisty use xmodmap or xkb?
[06:36] <Kazol> how do I install Konversation themes?
[06:36] <mlocker> plz msg to me !
[06:36] <stroppytux> kninitrd
[06:36] <xtknight> se2131, hmm i dont see anything too bad in there
[06:36] <rpaul> wil_syd: thanks, is this ubuntu channel on freenode?
[06:36] <EnsignRedshirt> mlocker: Did you ask a question or describe your problem yet?
[06:36] <lordhelmet> can anybody help with 64bit install problems?
[06:36] <stroppytux> mkinitrd
[06:36] <weltschmerz> my keymap breaks when i upgrade ubuntu..argh.
[06:36] <pipegeek> ta ta
[06:36] <wil_syd> rpaul: yes
[06:36] <mlocker> yes
[06:36] <obble> can anyone help me out with kdevelop?
[06:36] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> bulmer,  this is the portion in securetty I think might be telling,
[06:36] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> # /etc/securetty: list of terminals on which root is allowed to login.
[06:36] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> # See securetty(5) and login(1).
[06:36] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> console
[06:36] <xtknight> se2131, except for this...what the heck "Booting paravirtualized kernel on bare hardware"
[06:36] <bofh80> eternaljoy, says "Secure communications for all protocols over SSL and/or TLS" on the features page . . .
[06:37] <NemesisD> ubuntu is showing me as connected to the internet but i really can't be because no internet apps are working
[06:37] <rpaul> wil_syd: ah, well I have rpaul here, so I must still have the nickname.  I'll try identifying again.
[06:37] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> bulmer, am I close?
[06:37] <bulmer> xtknight well its a problem for now as the host can not get to another subnet like 172.x.x.x as it not forwarded
[06:37] <Alonea> anyone know anything about beryl? I installed it, but when I put in beryl in the terminal, it says AIGLX, instead of the XGL i installed..
[06:37] <NemesisD> whats up with that
[06:37] <toastjam> there is no "mkinitrd"
[06:37] <xtknight> se2131, oh never mind.  i guess i just misunderstood that line, looks like lots of people haev it
[06:37] <se2131> xtknight: to tell you the truth, I've only been using linux for a few months, so I'm not
[06:37] <GButler> Can someone help me out with an install that went awry?
[06:37] <se2131> xtknight: ah ok
[06:37] <obble> I've been tryin to add source code to kdevelop but there is no way to do that for some reason. Can anyone help me out?
[06:37] <bulmer> MrBarkyVonShnauz: yes you are close..btw how are you testing your login?
[06:37] <wil_syd> rpaul: recover first.
[06:37] <Kazol> has anyone here installed Koversation themes?
[06:38] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> bulmer, I don't know what you mean
[06:38] <xtknight> bulmer, i'm afraid that kind of networking is over my head
[06:38] <se2131> xtknight: it's just weird, b/c both edgy and windows work fine, but both fiesty beta and the fiesty release have this same problem
[06:38] <xtknight> se2131, ah hmm
[06:38] <xtknight> se2131, kernel regression perhaps
[06:38] <stroppytux> toastjam: are you on ubuntu?
[06:38] <se2131> xtknight: I have an ATI graphics card if that mean's anything
[06:38] <bulmer> MrBarkyVonShnauz: you said your console log-in is not working? how did you test it?
[06:38] <acehigh> anyone know whats up with the audigy 1 drivers?
[06:38] <se2131> xtknight: is it possible to boot up using an older kernel?
[06:38] <Skipzorz> is there a way to run virtual windows in Ubuntu?
[06:38] <eternaljoy> bofh80: ill try that
[06:38] <xtknight> se2131, yes, it can be shaky if you don't know what you're doing, though
[06:39] <lordhelmet> my 64bit install fails trying to get translation stuff. any ideas??
[06:39] <acehigh> my sound all staticy
[06:39] <xtknight> se2131, it's also possible to try ACPI DSDT patches maybe that will fix it.  im not sure im using the proper term
[06:39] <Kazol> How can I make it so that system statistics (CPU usage, etc.) appear in the wallpaper??
[06:39] <xtknight> Kazol, gdesklets
[06:39] <wil_syd> Any performance drivers for a radeon mobility 7500?
[06:39] <Kazol> thx
[06:39] <GButler> Does anyone know what causes a laptop to only boot up a wallpaper and blank menus after log-in?
[06:39] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> bulmer, I hit ctrl alt f3 and it puts me into a fullscreen prompt to login adn ti rejects my password
[06:39] <xtknight> se2131, what video driver?
[06:40] <zeb_se> is a 64MB nVidia GeForce4 good enuf to run beryl or compiz ?
[06:40] <xtknight> se2131, i dont even see your video card listed which i found odd
[06:40] <zeb_se> or do i need a more powerful grfic crad
[06:40] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> that's all I knos to do, not sure if it's close to 'testing'
[06:40] <se2131> xtknight: oh hm
[06:40] <lordhelmet> zeb_se: i ran it on my integrated intel so yes it'll be fine
[06:40] <obble> Please someone help me add source files to a kdevelop project
[06:40] <Skipzorz> anyone know anything about virtual PC?
[06:40] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> know
[06:40] <se2131> xtknight: I have an ATI Radeon 9100
[06:40] <EdLin> zeb_se: from what I've heard it works. I have a FX 5200 and it's enough.
[06:40] <neilthereildeil> hey all
[06:40] <se2131> xtknight: the driver in the xorg file is 'ati'
[06:40] <xtknight> se2131, ahhh k
[06:40] <zeb_se> thanks mates :) i give it a try then
[06:40] <neilthereildeil> how can i make java run in firefox?
[06:40] <Skipzorz> works fine with my ATI Radeo 9800 pro
[06:40] <neilthereildeil> i uninstalled thejava that came with ubuntu
[06:41] <Madpilot> ubotu, java | neilthereildeil
[06:41] <neilthereildeil> and installed a different jvm
[06:41] <ubotu> neilthereildeil: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[06:41] <bulmer> MrBarkyVonShnauz: thats close enuff for testing, you can attempt to change a users password by opening an xconsole
[06:41] <xtknight> se2131, i see weird stuff like this though "ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK1]  (IRQs 10 11) *0, disabled."
[06:41] <Skipzorz> get the addon
[06:41] <obble> Can anyone help me with kdevelop?
[06:41] <xtknight> se2131,  sometimes that indicates problems
[06:41] <bullgard4> Feisty & Gnome: I can call either Terminal or a Root Terminal. The Root Terminal will be somewhat larger and has a larger font size. How to reduce that to ordinary terminal size?
[06:41] <neilthereildeil> Madpilot: i already have it installed
[06:41] <stroppytux> what help do you need with kdevelop?
[06:41] <weltschmerz> what files does feisty use to define keymaps?
[06:41] <neilthereildeil> i need to integrate it with firefox
[06:41] <xtknight> se2131, as seen in your dmesg "PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq".  If it helps, post a report"  << good advice.
[06:41] <bulmer> MrBarkyVonShnauz: and as root, type  sudo passwd username   where username is the user you want to change its password
[06:41] <Madpilot> neilthereildeil, see the URL the bot just gave you, it's got the browser info too
[06:42] <Shaezsche> what does the "dbe" module in xorg do? what is double buffering
[06:42] <xjkx> What mp3 player comes on ubuntu by default?
[06:42] <Shaezsche> if i want more fps should i load it or not
[06:42] <n2diy> weltschmerz: loadkeys?
[06:42] <zeroday> rythmbox
[06:42] <GButler> I get an Internal Error that says it cannot initialize HAL when I boot up the laptop in recovery mode, would that cause a hang up in the normal boot?
[06:42] <ryancr> anyone here running compiz 0.5 on fiesty?
[06:42] <blazemonger> god not even ubu8ntu studio will let me use my soundcards software synth
[06:42] <blazemonger> :(
[06:42] <obble> stroppytux I IMed you with my question: I'm having trouble adding source files to my projects
[06:42] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> bulmer, cool, I remember having to do that once about 5 months ago now.
[06:43] <Col_Delta> can always add KDE Skipzorz
[06:43] <weltschmerz> n2diy what files define the keymaps?  my xkb keymap for Esperanto is no longer working.
[06:43] <Tarkus> bulmer: when i installed realplayer, since it didnt work, is it a bad thing to install it again? or should i remove every trace of it first and then install? or does it matter at all?
[06:43] <blazemonger> if i can't find a piece of midi sequencing software that i can use with   my midi gear then i'm smashing this laptop AND the pc
[06:43] <Skipzorz> thanks col
[06:43] <Madpilot> Skipzorz, no, it isn't. Servers don't need a UI - it's just one more thing to get attacked if it's on the web
[06:43] <Skipzorz> ah
[06:43] <Skipzorz> well that makes sense now that I think about it
[06:43] <se2131> xtknight: sorry, crashed again
[06:43] <xtknight> se2132, i dont meant to scare you, but.  http://www.notebookforums.com/thread51325.html
[06:43] <bulmer> Tarkus: i do not know about real player ..you may not need to remove all the traces..btw there are no hidden Registries in linux like in windows to hide stuff
[06:43] <Skipzorz> thanks madpilot
[06:44] <MrTexor> :(
[06:44] <obble> stroppytux: i've tried right clicking over the src files to see if theres an add source file or something like that. but there isnt
[06:44] <n2diy> weltschmerz: check out " man loadkeys" and "system -prefrences-keyboard"
[06:44] <xtknight> se2131, suppoesdly that laptop is notorious for freezing
[06:44] <xjkx> Please check what mp3 player came by default :(
[06:44] <thebillywayne> my motherboard came with a disc with Linux shell scripts on it.  Should I run these?
[06:44] <MrTexor> ok, I'm stupid.. but I cant find the llink for the torrent file :(
[06:44] <xtknight> se2131, again though if it doesn't happen on Edgy or windows/etc... then you can ignore that as that can't be the problem
[06:44] <Madpilot> Skipzorz, that said, you can run Apache/etc on a standard install too - useful if you want a testing/dev server that isn't exposed to the public
[06:44] <bulmer> thebillywayne: why not see whats in it before running the script?
[06:45] <obble> Alright anyone else know how to fix my Kdevelop problem: I'm just trying to add already made source files to a project. But I cant manage to do it.
[06:45] <se2131> xtknight: oh man, so maybe i should talk to toshiba
[06:45] <ardchoille> thebillywayne: I would never run a script without looking it over first.
[06:45] <se2131> xtknight: I should also clarify the type of crash i'm having
[06:45] <xtknight> se2131, why dont you just try Edgy for the night , like right now, and see if it hapepns
[06:45] <Zues_62> does anyone know of a lit file reader for ubuntu?
[06:45] <xtknight> se2131, hmm yeah what do you mean by crash then?
[06:45] <fernando> hello
[06:45] <Skipzorz> well, I already have an apache server set up on windows, and am converting it to ubuntu server
[06:45] <thebillywayne> ardchoille, bulmer, looking at it, though I'm not sure what I'm looking at.
[06:45] <Shaezsche> what does the "dbe" module in xorg do? what is double buffering
[06:45] <root__> how do you scroll up bash?
[06:45] <se2131> xtknight: the mouse is still responsive
[06:45] <Shaezsche> if i want more fps should i load it or not
[06:45] <Skipzorz> windows is attacked to much
[06:45] <xtknight> se2131, oh..
[06:45] <Tarkus> bulmer: so, in linux when it installs, it only puts stuff in the directory i specified? or does it still scatter stuff arround in the system that will take many hours to find them?
[06:45] <se2131> xtknight: but I can't do anything with the applciations
[06:45] <Madpilot> MrTexor, look for the .torrent files at the same places you download the rest of the Ubuntu ISOs
[06:45] <obble> Can someone pretty please help me with a Kdevelop issue?
[06:46] <bofh80> Madpilot, why is it the linux community say server and they mean 'web' server, why is that? not File server or Backup Server or Application server, like business wise, why is that? lol it drives me potty :P
[06:46] <ardchoille> thebillywayne: Yeah, that can be a drawback. I wold recommend learning bash scripting at some point.
[06:46] <xtknight> se2131, it could be I/O overload, perhaps from updatedb trying to update the search database.
[06:46] <se2131> xtknight: i can't do ctrl-alt-backspace, ctrl-alt-del, or ctrl-alt-f1
[06:46] <weltschmerz> n2diy i know where the keyboard preferences are.  i'm talking about the XKB file where you define the keymaps.
[06:46] <xtknight> se2131, try alt SysRq K next time
[06:46] <se2131> xtknight: ok, what does that do?
[06:46] <thebillywayne> ardchoille, yeah.  that's it.
[06:46] <xtknight> se2131, kills all open apps, it's a last resort/kernel debug
[06:46] <lordhelmet> gah why does this install fail all the time?? stupid translation files...
[06:46] <NemesisD> can you guys help me fix ubuntu? attempting to upgrade seems to have just about destroyed my ubuntu partition
[06:46] <peeps> anyone know what "dos2unix" is?  i think i need this program
[06:46] <root__> how do you scroll bash?
[06:46] <MrBarkyVonShnauz> thanks bulmer,
[06:46] <weltschmerz> n2diy for instance:     key <AE06> { [          6,  asciicircum, dead_circumflex, dead_circumflex ]  };
[06:46] <Madpilot> bofh80, not sure - because most of the time when people say 'server' they mean 'web server', probably. People who want advice on a file server will generally be more specific than just 'server'
[06:47] <se2131> xtknight: ok, i'll try that next time
[06:47] <xtknight> se2131, if your mouse moves, alt sysrq K will unfreeze your PC.  not that you shold be using that regularly.  in fact you should never use it ideally but it's not like it's harmful
[06:47] <bulmer> Tarkus it puts stuff in what is considered normal directories like /etc for the configs  or /usr/local/ ..read the package you are installing and find out as much..but for java its not that awkward
[06:47] <bofh80> Madpilot, ahh i see, that makes sense, LOL.
[06:47] <n2diy> weltschmerz: roger, then check out the man page for loadkeys
[06:47] <se2131> xtknight: i guess anything in a pinch
[06:47] <Moosejaw> is it possible that feisty is effecting my wireless NICS range with my router?
[06:47] <Skipzorz> is LAMP the best way to go for servers?
[06:47] <zak_> peeps: changes DOS text format into a unix text format [fixes newline glitches...]  it can be done with standard commands though, someone should be able to fill you in
[06:47] <xtknight> se2131, but if the mouse is moving that means your kernel is still running
[06:47] <bofh80> Madpilot, thanks for clearing that up, another n00b problem.  heheheheheh
[06:47] <xtknight> se2131, meaning you could alt sysrq K , goto a virtual terminal, and check dmesg or save it to a file and post it
[06:47] <bulmer> Skipzorz: what do you want to serve?
[06:47] <se2131> xtknight: is there a way to limit the rate of  I/O
[06:48] <xtknight> se2131, almost /certainly/ dmesg will have useful info in it
[06:48] <oldude67> trying to get frostwire to run but keeps coming up with no java installed and have the newest when i type in the command to apt-get
[06:48] <Skipzorz> simple website
[06:48] <GButler> Does any one here know why, on a laptop, I'd get an Internal Error that says Ubuntu cannot initialize the HAL when I boot up in recovery mode, and when I try to boot into the normal mode it just hangs, cuts the splash screen off and just loads a wallpaper?
[06:48] <Tarkus> bulmer: java is installing now though add/remove. it started working. is that a good way to do it?
[06:48] <xtknight> se2131, not that i know of.
[06:48] <se2131> xtknight: ok, i'll try that next time
[06:48] <peeps> zak_, do you know what package i need to install?  I need to compile something from source and the makefile is failing because of this
[06:48] <weltschmerz> n2diy http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90040
[06:48] <weltschmerz> i wrote that.
[06:48] <se2131> xtknight: thanks for your help, you've been awesome
[06:48] <tom_> can someone help me
[06:48] <xtknight> se2131, all we have to do now is wait ;P im sure it wont be long
[06:48] <bulmer> Skipzorz: yes thats okay, but am partial to Tomcat which is a webserver and java based
[06:48] <|ringo|> peeps: apt-get install build-essential
[06:48] <se2131> xtknight: i'll see if you're still online when it happens again
[06:48] <tom_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2505423#post2505423
[06:48] <xtknight> se2131, i probably will be
[06:48] <n2diy> weltschmerz: taking a look at the link
[06:48] <bulmer> Tarkus umm how do you know its working? the one you installed?
[06:49] <kahrytan> Is this channel alternative to ubuntuforums.org?
[06:49] <se2131> xtknight: haha thanks, i will ttyl then
[06:49] <obble> Someone please help me with Kdevelop
[06:49] <peeps> |ringo|, i already have that
[06:49] <sam__> hey
[06:49] <xtknight> se2131, do you know how to pipe dmesg to a file?
[06:49] <sam__> anyone
[06:49] <sam__> knw a site
[06:49] <sam__> where i can dowload webmin
[06:49] <xtknight> !enter
[06:49] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:49] <Meglo> I think there is a world market for maybe five computers.
[06:49] <sam__> like a tar.gz
[06:49] <xtknight> !webmin
[06:49] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[06:49] <se2131> xtknight: yep, that's not a problem
[06:49] <tom_> how do you edit a xorg.conf file? I would like to go back to an earlier version but they are protected in the x11 foldter
[06:49] <se2131> xtknight: i'll post it when it happens
[06:49] <xtknight> se2131, ok
[06:49] <sam__> ok but i still need it lolZ
[06:49] <sam__> im too stupid without it
[06:49] <jessid> !mic
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <stroppytux> obble: join #stroppytux
[06:49] <xtknight> tom_, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:49] <sam__> unless someone has a program that i can use instead of it
[06:49] <Skipzorz> well having that said, I may just use XAMP
[06:49] <xjkx> What ubuntu comes by default to play VIDEOS ? :D
[06:50] <sam__> anyone have a program i can use instead of webmin>??
[06:50] <xjkx> i mean clips
[06:50] <bofh80> ahahahaha i always new webmin was crap :P . i used SWAT once or whatever it's called to screw my samba install, had to rebuild lol
[06:50] <jessid> !dvd
[06:50] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:50] <sam__> anyone have a progam like webmin
[06:50] <sam__> that i can use
[06:50] <xjkx> no..i mean by default :((((
[06:51] <Moosejaw> is it possible that feisty is effecting my wireless NICs range with my router?
[06:51] <Moosejaw> anyone?
[06:51] <Tarkus> bulmer: it wasnt able to connect to the server to download before, now its done DLing and installed.
[06:51] <bofh80> sam__, what did you use it for?
[06:51] <sam__> setting up joomla nad acesses my roots folders
[06:51] <sam__> for stuff
[06:51] <bulmer> Tarkus  tell me the result of  java -version
[06:51] <tom_> xtknight, can you get me into a gui thats not nano... like text editor or something
[06:51] <sam__> acessing my root folders and using joomla
[06:51] <tom_> gkeditor or something
[06:51] <xtknight> tom_, gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:52] <Skipzorz> anyone know how to portforward through a router and an IP phone for apache server?
[06:52] <bulmer> Moosejaw: effecting? can you elaborate the specific problem ?
[06:52] <n2diy> weltschmerz: Sorry, I don't have a clue. I am running Dvorak now, on Dapper. Good luck.
[06:52] <bofh80> sam__, you can use ftp to access all the files on your system . . .
[06:52] <weltschmerz> the xkb system is just chaos.
[06:52] <Death_Sargent> gnome and kde won't work
[06:52] <weltschmerz> n2diy i fixed it using my own advice, using a much older xkb file.
[06:52] <nny> .join #ubunut-effects
[06:52] <Moosejaw> making it have less range...in comparison to how it was working in feisty.  thus slowing download speeds
[06:52] <Death_Sargent> I just installed fsce and it works
[06:52] <sam__> how do i isntall ftp acess???
[06:52] <thebillywayne> what flash drive brands does Feisty play well with?  anyone have one that works nice and clean out of the box?
[06:52] <sam__> does it come standard
[06:52] <weltschmerz> i don't know why X has such an insane system for defining keyboard layouts, that is so incredibly poorly documented.
[06:52] <Moosejaw> distance from the router is a problem now
[06:53] <n2diy> weltschmerz: Good, what was the fix?
[06:53] <orangefly> anyone else have trouble with a built in broadcom wireless card and feisty....???....
[06:53] <JackPhil> Hi, it seems apache2 can't stop, and I couldnt upgrade to feisty
[06:53] <Tarkus> bulmber:
[06:53] <Tarkus> java version "1.5.0_11"
[06:53] <Tarkus> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_11-b03)
[06:53] <Tarkus> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 1.5.0_11-b03, mixed mode)
[06:53] <bulmer> Moosejaw: may i suggest you prefix your responses with a nick so it would not be missed
[06:53] <bofh80> sam__, one way to find out :) i believe so, but i might be wrong
[06:53] <Moosejaw> bulmer: sorry
[06:53] <oldude67> oh so im not the only one having trouble with java
[06:53] <bulmer> Tarkus: congrats..you have java jre installed
[06:54] <Moosejaw> bulmer: making it have less range...in comparison to how it was working in feisty.  thus slowing download speeds
[06:54] <CarlFK> how do I add a tty to the serial port so I can connect to a shell from a 2nd box via minicom?
[06:54] <paradon> sam__: For FTP access, you need to apt-get install vsftpd
[06:54] <Phineas> What's up folks
[06:54] <Tarkus> bulmer: nice
[06:54] <paradon> sam__: and you'll want to edit /etc/vsftpd.conf, by default it only has anonymous access enabled.
[06:54] <bulmer> Moosejaw: im still not sure i comprehend "less range" as in your nic is not able to listen to an AP ?
[06:55] <scotty_> Alright, I have a question regarding feisty install.
[06:55] <Moosejaw> bulmer: the signal strength isnt as strong as it was
[06:55] <sanityx> I had to reinstall windows after I installed ubuntu. To resture grub I can just boot off the feisty cd right
[06:55] <xtknight> Moosejaw,  it's possible the driver is more picky about the wireless range somehow.  usually that's a wireless/RF chipset tolerance not a driver one though who knows.
[06:55] <n2diy> Car'lFK: ttySX is a serial port
[06:55] <sanityx> whats the command again, grub-install?
[06:56] <Moosejaw> xtknight thanks
[06:56] <CarlFK> n2diy: where do I put that?
[06:56] <xtknight> why does nothing tab complete when i prefix it with sudo?
[06:56] <dfg> !restricted
[06:56] <scotty_> I booted from a disk, went through the installation process, and now there's just a taskbar item that says "installing system". When I click it, it brings up a little window with a gray square on it.
[06:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:56] <scotty_> Is that normal?
[06:56] <diabolix> anyone here use deskbar?
[06:56] <xtknight> no commands tabcomplete but filenames do when using 'sudo'
[06:56] <bulmer> Moosejaw: maybe the drivers used are not using the same capabilities..besides anything wireless is not guaranteed to work 100%
[06:56] <|ringo|> sanityx: next time you install windows after linux, do this before installing windows: dd if=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1 > /tmp/backup/MBR.bin
[06:56] <Shaba1> I have no dies what it is diabolix
[06:56] <|ringo|> that backs up the master book record, so you can restore it after windows deletes it
[06:56] <sanityx> heh ok
[06:56] <oldude67> why is it i cant get frostwire to see the new java installed?
[06:57] <sanityx> |ringo|: yeah but then the mbr wont have a windows listing
[06:57] <Shaba1> But am interested in findign out
[06:57] <Moosejaw> bulmer: it was working great in edgy with the same drivers...so i sorta expected the same in feisty
[06:57] <diabolix> xtknight, thats because bash searches you're path for the command to run, but only searches the working directory for arguments.
[06:57] <|ringo|> sanityx: right but then you run uh...  grub-install and it will find windows and add it to the grub list
[06:57] <bofh80> xtknight, works for me
[06:57] <n2diy> Car'lFK: Just set both boxes up to us the same ttySX, baud rates, etc... It is a simple serial port connection.
[06:57] <sanityx> |ringo|: ah ok
[06:57] <diabolix> i seem to remember that working in edgy tho...
[06:58] <xtknight> diabolix, ah hmm.  bash does have some features i'd deem far more advanced such as argument tab completing so i wondered
[06:58] <xtknight> bofh80, interesting
[06:58] <CarlFK> n2diy: but just because I can talk to the port doesn't mean it will give me a login prompt
[06:58] <xtknight> bofh80, you can type sudo grub-i and it will say grub-install?
[06:58] <bulmer> Moosejaw: again, umm nothing is guaranteed..and how do you really measure this percieved slowness?
[06:58] <n2diy> Car'lFK: Ah, I see. Look into ssh
[06:58] <bofh80> xtknight, yup, works...
[06:58] <xtknight> well for reasons i cant possibly conceive my bash /gnome terminal has been messed from the start on this instlal of Feisty
[06:58] <KevinOoO> anyone know how to add transparency to a panel background???
[06:58] <xtknight> so who knows
[06:58] <diabolix> so.. does anyone know how to make the deskbar only search google? it asks for amazon and all this stuff i don't care about.
[06:58] <xtknight> diabolix, it's in the preferences isnt it..
[06:58] <CarlFK> n2diy: you have no clue, do you ? :)
[06:59] <scotty_> I'm installing Ubuntu Feisty right now. I went through the process, and clicked the "install" button at the end of the process. Now there's just an item in my taskbar called "Installing system." When clicked, it brings a window to focus. However, the window is tiny and just has a little gray box in it. Is that normal?
[06:59] <diabolix> xtknight, it is, but it doesn't do anything.
[06:59] <Skiguy> anyone running azureus on 7.04?
[06:59] <bofh80> xtknight, log on a TTY as root and see if it autocompletes commands as root ?
[06:59] <SpeakerMania> Quick question: If I have a high speed connection, can I plug the network cable inot my computer and have instant internet access? Or do I have to configure stuff? I have 6.10.
[06:59] <n2diy> Car'lFK: Umm, I guess not, I have two boxes networked, talking to each other etc...
[06:59] <xtknight> i prefer gnome-bt-download (simplistic bittorrent)
[06:59] <peeps> how can i verify which graphics driver is running?
[06:59] <xtknight> though a bit limited/terse
[07:00] <KevinOoO> anyone know how to add transparency to a panel background???
[07:00] <Skiguy> Speaker: should be immediate, assuming your card is recognized. almost all are.
[07:00] <SpeakerMania> Alright, thanks.
[07:00] <n2diy> Car'FK: Umm, I guess not, I have two boxes networked, talking to each other etc...
[07:00] <xtknight> bofh80, yea it works under "sudo i" # shell
[07:00] <bofh80> xtknight, i ended up using that, cos all the other bittorrent clients for linux are , well, cough . . . .
[07:00] <liquiddoom> KevinOoO: Right click it
[07:00] <Andruk> xtknight: i am simply trying to get gnome to start metacity (or any window manager) when i log in.
[07:00] <ozymandias> anyone have a guide on getting compiz-kde working?
[07:00] <CarlFK> n2diy: I got networking too.  trying to make one a bridge, and getting tired of loosing my ssh connection.  figured a serial connection would survive all my network restarts that dont start
[07:00] <bulmer> xtknight: try tput reset  and see if it resets to some default working terminal
[07:00] <scotty_> anyone?
[07:00] <liquiddoom> KevinOoO: Under background, you can set the opacity
[07:01] <xtknight> Andruk, but what has happened up until this point?  metacity should be starting
[07:01] <xtknight> Andruk, gnome should 'just work' (tm)
[07:01] <Andruk> i upgraded to feisty...
[07:01] <KevinOoO> liquiddoom, i know how to do that, but im using a theme, which has a bckground
[07:01] <KevinOoO> liquiddoom, if you use a backround you cant set opacity, theres another way
[07:02] <xtknight> bulmer, it cleared my screen basically
[07:02] <n2diy> CarlFK: Ok, then your right, I don't have a clue! :) Are the other boxes playing with winders?
[07:02] <xtknight> bulmer, hrm what does that do?
[07:02] <liquiddoom> KevinOoO: I have mine set to white with the opacity at around 30%
[07:02] <xtknight> bulmer, different than "clear"?
[07:02] <Andruk> xtknight: well, i can start metacity from the terminal, and when i hit ctrl+c it exits, then automatically restarts metacity.  but if i just log in and leave gnome alone, metacity does not load
[07:02] <CarlFK> n2diy: well, I have samba and some win boxes too
[07:02] <bofh80> hmm, i don't get it, how come no one is raving about their cool 3d desktops ? ;p
[07:02] <bulmer> xtknight: tput is basically for terminal setting
[07:02] <xtknight> Andruk, weird.  hmm look in ~/.xinitrc maybe
[07:03] <n2diy> Car'lFK: Ok, I only am playing with Ubuntu to Ubuntu.
[07:03] <bulmer> xtknight: it has options i cant remember though
[07:03] <Ademan> how might one import emails from a previous installation of ubuntu into a new one? (evolution)
[07:03] <xtknight> Ademan, maybe access the ~/.evolution folder of the old ubuntu
[07:03] <xtknight> Ademan, i thought feisty's installer also had profile importing you could do
[07:03] <Ademan> xtknight: it very well may
[07:03] <eoX> Hi is it true that if i install linux first then windows will not install b/c it will not recongnize the linux partitions?
[07:03] <CarlFK> n2diy: thats all I am trying to do right now.   login from ubuntu1 to u2 via the serial cable and null modem
[07:04] <xtknight> Ademan, only in the livecd installer though not Alternate or Update-manager->feisty
[07:04] <bofh80> Ademan, if you know where the data is, surely evolution has it's own import process?
[07:04] <xtknight> Ademan, not 100% sure so backup ~/.evolution or export from within the app?
[07:04] <Gumby> eoX: you cant install windows on a linux partition.
[07:04] <n2diy> Car'lFK: Ok, so what is wrong with ssh then?
[07:04] <scott1> I'm installing Ubuntu Feisty right now. I went through the process, and clicked the "install" button at the end of the process. Now there's just an item in my taskbar called "Installing system." When clicked, it brings a window to focus. However, the window is tiny and just has a little gray box in it. Is that normal?
[07:04] <Ademan> eoX: no windows will install, but it will overwrite GRUB and you'll hafta do extra work to get to your linux partition, linux will autodetect your windows partition and everything will be easier
[07:04] <xtknight> actually sometimes windows wont even install
[07:04] <xtknight> because it's so picky
[07:04] <bulmer> CarlFK: is the a getty process running on those serial ports?
[07:04] <KevinOoO> liquiddoom, look at this preview http://gnomelook.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=53883&file1=53883-1.jpg&file2=&file3=&name=Fedora+Gnome+Vista+Panel
[07:05] <Ademan> xtknight: well i'm backing up my entire home directory so you know, whatever, hopefully it will work
[07:05] <xtknight> itll say unrecognized boot partition because GRUB is there
[07:05] <CarlFK> n2diy: ssh goes over ip -
[07:05] <xtknight> and wont install
[07:05] <xtknight> ive had that :(
[07:05] <bofh80> Ademan, i looked at the evolution import option, bit lacking isn't it lol
[07:05] <Moosejaw> bulmer: i think i have things working better now...thanks for your help.
[07:05] <CarlFK> bulmer: du no.  the one I am trying to connect 'to' is running a fresh feisty
[07:05] <bulmer> Moosejaw: no problem, sometimes pointing out that there are no guarantees, people realize some stuff are acceptable afterall
[07:06] <Ademan> bofh80: haha, yeah, i guess i'll just keep .evolution around in case i ever need to find an old email, and other than that, i'll just start fresh
[07:06] <Moosejaw> bulmer: on a separate note, my upload speed is now equivalent to my download speed...which makes no sense.  how can i improve my download speed?
[07:06] <n2diy> Car'lFK: OK! Now who doesn't have a clue?! IP is serial comms!
[07:06] <eoX> ademan for me i did windows install and its ok but when i installed linux first then windows will hang at examining hardwares and give a black screen before even going into the blue agreement screen
[07:06] <Moosejaw> my upspeed is 1301/kbs and my dload is 1000/lbs
[07:06] <Moosejaw> kbs
[07:06] <bofh80> Ademan, i had high hopes for evolution, it has a few nice tricks up it sleeve, but it's pants :)
[07:06] <Ademan> eoX: interesting, i personally have done both, and both worked, just windows second took a lot more work
[07:06] <blanky> hey guys on feisty, how do you do the  character, compose key + what?
[07:07] <axisys> does ubuntu works with cisco leap?
[07:07] <Ademan> lol bofh80
[07:07] <tankcat> i just order a machine with an amd64 dualcore cpu for $310 :-)
[07:07] <Andruk> xtknight: i dont have an ~/.xinitrc (and yes, i am looking at hidden files).  i do have an ~/.xsession-errors though, would you like to see that?
[07:07] <CarlFK> n2diy: yean, but first I would have to bring up a ip over serial connection, which would get screwed the same way my eth0 connection is getting screwed
[07:07] <bulmer> Moosejaw: the site your downloading from have to be capable of doing same too or higher speed than yours..lots of factors..isp maybe have you throttled
[07:07] <renato> everyone happy with Feisty?
[07:07] <xtknight> Andruk, sure that may be helpful
[07:07] <liz> yes yes :)
[07:07] <eoX> ademan did you use mkfs.vfat and fdisk to make a parition first in linux? or use gpart to parition the empty space first before you install windows to it?
[07:07] <xtknight> Ademan, http://email.about.com/cs/evolutiontips/qt/et110103.htm
[07:07] <Moosejaw> hrm...my dload speed should be 6000kbs...just unusual
[07:07] <Phineas> renato, it's fantastic. Brought me back from the darkside
[07:07] <liquiddoom> Feisty rocks. I have a couple errors every now and then, but oh well.
[07:08] <tom_> PPPPPPPPPPPPPPLEEEEEASE I have honestly been working on this for over 8 hours... I just want to change my screen resolution
[07:08] <xtknight> !fixres
[07:08] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:08] <Cobain> is it possible to make it so gnome launches gnomebaker when i insert a blank cd instead of serpentine?
[07:08] <axisys> !wifi
[07:08] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:08] <frutax> I'm having the exact same problem as tom_
[07:08] <Inigo> man i like ubuntu
[07:08] <liquiddoom> Cobain: Multimedia Systems Selector?
[07:08] <bulmer> Moosejaw: are you paying bit for bit like a leased line or you are using dsl or version of adsl like ?
[07:08] <n2diy> CarlFK: Ok so you are having other problems too?
[07:08] <CarlFK> bulmer: getty's used to be setup in /etc/initab, but that went away a few versions ago
[07:08] <tom_> xtknight, do you know how to help me... I have gone through all that before and had to reinstall feisty 4 times
[07:08] <_3uG_> quick question.. what's the difference between linux-image-###-386 and linux-image-###-generic?
[07:08] <blanky> hey guys on feisty, how do you do the  character, compose key + what?
[07:08] <liz> tom: whats not working right?
[07:09] <Ademan> eoX: i used the partitioner included with the ubuntu installer, which at the time was gparted
[07:09] <bulmer> CarlFK: on a dapper am using now, its still is enabled
[07:09] <xtknight> tom_, what video adapter do you have?
[07:09] <Moosejaw> bulmer: just using a cable line and modem
[07:09] <tom_> liz, I have not been able to get a resolution that looks right on my screen
[07:09] <tom_> xtknight, video adapter?
[07:09] <xtknight> tom_, i wont say i WILL be able to fix your resolution problem but i very likely will be able to
[07:09] <tom_> xtknight, you mean my video card?
[07:09] <CarlFK> bulmer: huh - maybe Ill just give it a shot :)
[07:09] <xtknight> tom_, yes or onboard video chip, whichever applies
[07:09] <eoX> ademan yeah i did the same but windows installer hangs with linux present its not a big deal i just wanted to know so thanks
[07:09] <bulmer> Moosejaw: you can not really complain of not getting same speed upload or download unless your ISP guarantees it..which most likely they wont
[07:09] <liz> tom: define looks right, what does it look like
[07:09] <axisys> !leap
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about leap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <Moosejaw> can anyone recommend an MTU speed and how i can change it?
[07:10] <axisys> !ciscoleap
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ciscoleap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <Moosejaw> bulmer: just expected a much higher dload speed
[07:10] <axisys> !cisco
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cisco - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <tom_> xtknight, a geforce 6600 128 mb ram
[07:10] <Ademan> eoX: hrm, well if it makes a difference this was with windows XP pro
[07:10] <axisys> anyone uses cisco leap agent?
[07:10] <liz> cisoleap=the proprietary :(
[07:10] <xtknight> tom_, PC, correct? not laptop?
[07:10] <andruk_tatum> xtknight: (sorry, im two computers) heres my ~/.xsession-errors
[07:10] <andruk_tatum> http://ubuntu.paste-bin.com/11454
[07:10] <CarlFK> n2diy: trying to bridge wired to wireless without doing routing so that all are on the same subnet