[09:25] <duflu> OK, I can connect a secondary client to USC but it never comes to the front. Do we have any hack or workaround for that?
[09:30] <duflu> alf_: Have we implemented any key combo or other hack for session switching within USC?
[09:33]  * duflu imagines funky carousel animations in the future
[09:34] <alf_> duflu: No session switching, just some debug modes to set the active session name
[09:34] <duflu> alf_: Switch at runtime?
[09:35] <alf_> duflu: no, at program start time
[09:35] <duflu> alf_: Fair enough. Thanks
[09:37] <alf_> duflu: But it shouldn't be too hard to hack something for runtime. Instead of using a NullDMMessageHandler we could have a DebugDMMessageHandler listening to a socket or whatever
[09:37] <duflu> alf_: I'm thinking more like a key combo as the demo servers have. Don't bring to front by default because that would be a security risk, but if the user asks for it
[09:41] <duflu> alf_: We would first need to decide what modifier combo is reserved for USC use I guess
[09:58] <duflu> It's curious how often I end the day bisecting bugs
[09:58] <duflu> Almost done
[10:12] <zzarr> hello duflu, just saying hello because it's  a nice thing to do ;-)
[10:12] <duflu> zzarr: Hi
[10:12] <duflu> zzarr: And bye... I'm logging off
[10:12] <zzarr> okey, bye
[10:17] <tjaalton> why are mir headers split like they are? I'm building vulkan loader but it can't find <mir_toolkit/client_types.h> because it's under mirclient
[10:17] <tjaalton> so need to set CFLAGS, fine
[10:18] <tjaalton> then it fails because apparently libmirclient-dev needs to depend on libmircommon-dev, and I need to add another -I/usr/include/mircommon
[10:19] <tjaalton> sorry, the pkg dep is there
[10:19] <tjaalton> but the question remains, why this pain for app packagers?-)
[10:19] <tjaalton> or am I doing something wrong
[10:20] <tjaalton> looks like the build will fail anyway, so I won't add mir support to libvulkan at this point
[10:30] <mcphail> tjaalton: aren't you using pkg-config to set the cflags?
[10:31] <alan_g> tjaalton: pkg-config is your friend
[10:33] <alan_g> $ pkg-config --cflags mirclient
[10:33] <alan_g> -pthread -I/usr/include/mirclient -I/usr/include/mircommon -I/usr/include/mircookie
[10:43] <tjaalton> that would be swell, yes :P
[10:44] <tjaalton> so it's just the build env that's broken
[10:45] <tjaalton> and it's cmake, meh
[10:49]  * alan_g thinks "magic" is great when it works. ;)
[10:49]  * mcphail hugs pkg-config
[10:49] <tjaalton> yeah, barking at the wrong tree again
[10:50] <tjaalton> fyi, https://launchpad.net/~canonical-x/+archive/ubuntu/vulkan will have an updated libvulkan soon, with working demos
[10:50] <tjaalton> so since it was announced that xenial will have vulkan support in Mir, maybe someone could fix the loader first :)
[10:51] <tjaalton> and send patches upstream too
[10:53]  * alan_g assumes bregma has a plan
[10:59] <tjaalton> indeed
[11:26]  * alan_g discovers his mako doesn't boot today. :(
[19:14] <jerryG> any1 online?
[19:14] <anpok> yes
[19:17] <jerryG> anpok: any way to disable mir cursor in mir_demo_server?
[19:19] <anpok> there is yet no command line switch to do that
[19:20] <jerryG> anpok: anyway to fix the cursor at a certain position.. or otherwise hide it?
[19:21] <jerryG> anpk: or... can i make changes without using comaand line?
[19:21] <anpok> you can hide it server.the_cursor()->hide()..
[19:23] <anpok> you can write a client that disables the cursor
[19:23] <anpok> i mean .. depends on whether you want to do that as a compositor or as a client on a specific surface..
[19:26] <anpok> jerryG: whats your use case .. which API are you using.. then I can point you right to the example code..
[19:26] <anpok> (most of which can be found in the acceptance-tests directory)
[19:26] <jerryG> anpok: im using X11 client with snappy ubuntu mir server
[19:30] <anpok> jerryG: then xmir should do that for you..  hmm
[19:31] <anpok> jerryG: you could try running xmir with -nocursor..
[19:31] <jerryG> anpok: thanks.  the problem is i have two cursors... one for mir and one for xmir
[19:32] <jerryG> anpok: the xmir cursor is correct, however, the mir cursor is distracting
[19:35] <anpok> strange .. i only get one cursor..
[19:36] <anpok> jerryG: i will add an option for that.. we already quite a few examples related to cursor.. one more will not hurt..
[19:36] <anpok> +have
[19:38] <jerryG> anpok: ok thanks.  what file should i add the cursor-> hide command to on the server side?


[02:26] <lfaraone> cjwatson: the goal of having it be part of man-db is that it's runtime, rather than buildtimne.
[02:27] <lfaraone> cjwatson: we could even make it be an installtime hook
[05:57] <ScottK> crimsun_: Last cycle you fixed slicer to build with a newer vtk.  It needs similar treatment again ....
[06:25] <micahg> wgrant: any idea why my ubuntuwire page seems to be the only one broke?
[06:25] <wgrant> micahg: What in particular is wrong with it?
[06:25] <micahg> wgrant: it's been blank for almost a week :)
[06:25] <wgrant> Sources with multiple versions published might be a bit confused.
[06:26] <wgrant> Hah.
[06:26] <wgrant> Ah.
[06:26] <wgrant> I bet it's because Maverick is frozen now, and it's looking for a development series.
[06:26]  * wgrant sighs at LP.
[06:26] <micahg> wgrant: java works fine
[06:27] <wgrant> micahg: Yeah, but it's not packageset-based.
[06:27] <micahg> wgrant: ah, ok, anything I can do to help fix it?
[06:28] <wgrant> micahg: It's rerunning now.
[06:28] <wgrant> Just hardcoding maverick this time.
[06:29] <micahg> wgrant: thanks :)
[06:29]  * micahg is going to try to stay as close to Debian as possible
[06:29] <wgrant> micahg: Looks happy now.
[06:30] <micahg> \o/
[06:30]  * micahg hugs wgrant
[06:30]  * micahg didn't miss much action apparently :-/
[06:31] <micahg> wgrant: would it be hard to add a column for experimental?
[06:32]  * micahg figures it won't matter much next cycle after squeeze is released though
[06:32] <wgrant> micahg: It is unfortunately non-trivial.
[06:32] <wgrant> But we'll hopefully have all this in LP in a few months. We might be able to do something then.
[06:32] <micahg> wgrant: k, thanks
[07:03] <Zombie> anyone awake??
[07:04] <micahg> !ask | Zombie
[07:04] <Zombie> I have a Dellbuntu E1505, running Lucid Lynx.
[07:04] <Zombie> and, I am getting a great deal of "jitter" using Analogue TV out via S-video.
[07:05] <micahg> !support | Zombie
[07:05] <Zombie> Its almost like the sync rate is wrong. I was wondering if I could replace it with an alternate driver.
[07:49] <dholbach> good morning
[08:06] <ajmitch> morning dholbach
[08:07] <dholbach> hi ajmitch
[08:41] <Laney> moooooorning
[08:42] <bilalakhtar> Morning Laney !
[09:07] <AnAnt> Hello
[09:07] <AnAnt> persia: when's the next DMB meeting ?
[09:12] <bilalakhtar> tumbleweed: around?
[09:13] <persia> AnAnt, Unless something exciting happens in the next day or two, likely 14th September 15:00 UTC.  If something does happen, likely 13th September at one of 12:00 or 19:00 UTC.
[09:13] <persia> I'll publish it as soon as it's confirmed.
[09:13] <bilalakhtar> Thanks persia ! You mean, on the devel-permissions?
[09:14] <persia> I meant on the wiki.  I suppose I could send something to devel-permissions, if folks find that significantly easier.
[09:14] <cjwatson> lfaraone: right, I understood the goal, just not quite sure whether I agree that it's the right thing to do, though there's no harm in experimenting.  The obvious difficulty seems to be that help2man often needs slightly different arguments for different commands, and thus this would need some help from each package anyway.
[09:14] <cjwatson> perhaps -devel-announce for a change in routine DMB meeting times
[09:14] <persia> That does seem a bit more wide read, indeed.
[09:18] <huats> morning
[10:42] <Laney> Is the DMB problem a lack of manpower, unsuitable meeting times or both?
[10:44] <wgrant> dholbach: The packageset fix is on edge.
[10:46] <dholbach> wgrant, yeeeeeeeeeeeeehaw - will test in a bit :-D
[10:47] <geser> Laney: mostly busy members and not the best meeting times; it's hard to find a good time which suits all members (US, Europe, Japan)
[10:48] <Laney> Yeah, so both. You could consider calling for some more members.
[10:48] <sebner> Laney for DMB \o/
[10:48] <persia> We did, about 6 weeks ago, and only got a couple nominations.
[10:48] <Laney> I thought that was just to replace nixternal
[10:49] <geser> there is a free seat, but cjwatson is currently too busy to setup the voting
[10:49] <geser> yes, but still only 2 nominations
[10:49] <persia> I'd not expect more folks to be nominated just because more seats were open.
[10:49] <dholbach> wgrant, thanks muchly - will let you know how it goes
[10:49] <Laney> Fancy re-opening them? :)
[10:50] <persia> But the unsuitable meeting times is really the key issue at the moment.
[10:50] <persia> 4/7 of the members have a firm conflict, and it's really late for another.
[10:51] <wgrant> dholbach: Great.
[10:51] <persia> Laney, Hrm?  re-open which?
[10:52] <geser> Laney: if you increase the size of the DMB, you also increase the quorum and it's already hard to find a time to reach quorum (at least 4 members present)
[10:52] <lifeless> geser: you can choose not to increase quorum
[10:52] <persia> I really don't think size is the issue.  There exist times of day that aren't problematic.
[10:52] <geser> persia: sounds like Laney want to self-nominate himself for nixternal's seat
[10:52] <Laney> Nominations. If you wish to have more... perhaps some people simply neglected to understand the situation...
[10:52]  * Laney remains aloof
[10:53] <persia> Laney, Please feel free to send additional nominations.  I don't believe we've specifically closed them (although the stated preferred deadline has passed)
[10:53] <cjwatson> I would welcome somebody else setting up the voting
[10:53] <cjwatson> at this point I will certainly not have time for it until after beta
[10:54] <cjwatson> don't we only have one nomination?  One of the two I saw declined
[10:54] <geser> yes
[10:54] <persia> We only have one confirmed nomination, which makes me unhappy about "voting" as such.
[10:55] <Laney> Then I think it would be a good idea to fill this seat, try the new times and see how it goes then.
[10:55] <cjwatson> well, yes, but there's a word for not holding an election because you're unhappy about the nominations and it's not a nice one :)
[10:55] <Laney> If there's a problem then try expanding the size of the board by one or two
[10:55] <persia> cjwatson, Well, true.
[10:56]  * persia adds "Set up a confirmation poll for the nominee" to the things-to-do-soon list, hoping someone else is faster
[11:07] <Laney> :)
[11:09] <bilalakhtar> Laney: Good for you!
[11:09]  * Laney pleads ignorance, guv'nor
[11:11]  * bilalakhtar wishes Laney good luck for him to succeed in his desire
[11:12] <tumbleweed> bilalakhtar: hi
[11:12] <bilalakhtar> hey tumbleweed !
[11:13] <bilalakhtar> tumbleweed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BilalAkhtar/MOTUApplication Endorse when you have time, I suppose you are on vacation or something
[11:13] <tumbleweed> bilalakhtar: hah, no I was busy with pyweek.org
[11:13]  * bilalakhtar visits pyweek.org
[11:13] <bilalakhtar> tumbleweed: don't you have a website already? tumbleweed.org.za
[11:14] <tumbleweed> bilalakhtar: correct, I do (although I seem to have stopped blogging). http://pyweek.org/e/boomslang/ - my team's pyweek entry
[11:15] <bilalakhtar> tumbleweed: is this a game?
[11:15] <tumbleweed> bilalakhtar: yes
[11:15] <bilalakhtar> tumbleweed: you are lucky to be living in a place that has so many ubuntu users :|
[11:16] <tumbleweed> bilalakhtar: unfortunatly I'm the only ubuntu developer in the city (to the best of my knowledge)
[11:16] <bilalakhtar> tumbleweed: ah, that's nothing
[11:16] <bilalakhtar> tumbleweed: I am the only Ubuntu member in the country!
[11:16] <bilalakhtar> lol
[11:17] <bilalakhtar> tumbleweed: hey, you are using Drupal for a blog?
[11:24] <tumbleweed> bilalakhtar: yeah, but I really should do something about it (i.e. theme it or something, and write some new posts)
[11:24] <bilalakhtar> tumbleweed: If you wanna blog, go for WordPress
[11:25]  * tumbleweed used to use wordpress, but it sucked for non-blogging things (and it's a security disaster waiting to happen)
[12:28] <dholbach> wgrant, thanks muchly! it works great!
[12:29] <wgrant> dholbach: Excellent.
[12:30] <dholbach> this will make Harvest deployment a little easier too :-D
[12:30] <dholbach> alright, lunch time - see you later
[14:29] <mhall119> hi everyone
[14:30] <mhall119> if I add a choice of two dependencies, say "foo-gnome | foo-kde", will apt choose the one that has the fewest uninstalled dependencies?
[14:30] <jpds> I think it picks the first one, if it can't find that, the second.
[14:30] <ScottK> mhall119: No.  It will install the first one if neither are installed.
[14:31] <jpds> and if it can't find that THE WORLD ENDS.
[14:31] <mhall119> hmmmm, darn
[14:31] <ScottK> and, as jpds says, install the second if it can't find the first.
[14:33] <mhall119> so, for celestia: Depends: celestia-kde | celestia-gnome | celestia-glut
[14:33] <mhall119> it'll install celestia-kde?
[14:33] <mhall119> cause I'm pretty sure when I installed it on my kid's computer, it installed the -gnome variant
[14:34] <mhall119> maybe I specified the -gnome, but I didn't think so
[14:35] <mhall119> hmm, I must have done that
[14:35] <mhall119> drat
[14:35] <mhall119> would have been awesome of apt could pick the one with the least new dependencies
[15:17] <AnAnt> Hello
[17:04] <Zombie> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~ickle/linux-2.6/commit/?h=drm-testing&id=bd17d356a91b33a9e9d0cd2cd57f164dc9cbc0d9 Are you familiar with this patch/
[17:55] <ScottK> Zombie: If it's a kernel patch, you probably want #ubuntu-kernel.
[21:23] <ajmitch> morning all
[22:21] <geser> Hi ajmitch
[22:41] <jono> siretart, ping?
[22:42] <jono> stgraber, ping?
[23:28] <stgraber> jono: pong


[09:36] <sakrecoer[b]> sorry, i know this question is not specific to ubuntu studio, rather element. But i figure many users have installed element the same way i have.
[09:37] <sakrecoer[b]> any one else getting "The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG C2850B265AC085BD" when updating?
[09:37] <sakrecoer[b]> seems like apt-key is deprecated now, what is the procedure to refresh these keys?
[09:41] <sakrecoer[b]> oh well... i did it the ugly way and deleted the my version of the key and downloaded the version advertised on the website located at https://packages.riot.im/debian/
[09:41] <Iamahuman4> sakrecoer[b]: yeah, I've been running into apt-key being deprecated
[09:42] <Iamahuman4> I think they moved towards a GnuPG solution coz that offers harder and more sophisticated security
[09:42] <sakrecoer[b]> Iamahuman4: i had no idea before today. Must be new, because my machine runing 20.04 is not complaining about it
[09:42] <Iamahuman4> sakrecoer[b]: 20.10 got it (I think, not on it right now)
[09:43] <Iamahuman4> sakrecoer[b]: I'm sure it is a good move, but it does break a lot of the existing instructions on how to add software that is not in the repos
[09:45] <Iamahuman4> If you come by a solution how to do the migration, I'd appreciate if you throw me a link. I did give it a few trys on the search engine, but no real tutorials. This was like maybe 1-2 months ago
[09:45] <sakrecoer[b]> i had the same issue regarding finding docs about it. this helped me though: https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/blob/master/INSTALL.md#matrixorg-packages
[09:46] <sakrecoer[b]> Iamahuman4: ^
[09:46] <sakrecoer[b]> The Note under the box with the apt strings
[09:46] <Iamahuman4> Merci sakrecoer[b]
[09:46] <sakrecoer[b]> de rien Iamahuman4 ! :)
[09:47] <sakrecoer[b]> hmm... well... that's how i run into the issue actually...
[09:48] <sakrecoer[b]> so the **Note** is maybe not as helpful as i remembered. sorry...
[09:48] <sakrecoer[b]> Rather the apt strings are.
[09:49] <sakrecoer[b]> it seems instead of using apt-key, they add the `signed-by=/path/to/key" in the sources.list.d file
[09:50] <sakrecoer[b]> well... i guess this leaves us where we started in the quetion Iamahuman4 : if i find something more detailed i'll try remember share it with you. Hopefully if you find it first you will remember to share too :) <3
[09:52] <Iamahuman4> sakrecoer[b]: this gives a lot of relevant hits https://www.google.com/search?channel=fs&client=ubuntu&q=apt-key+deprecated+howto
[09:52] <Iamahuman4> so there are tutorials of varying quality on how to adjust to the situation
[09:53] <sakrecoer[b]> ah yeah! your websearch-fu is much more powerful than mine!! many thanks Iamahuman4 !! <3
[09:55] <Iamahuman4> I'm soooooo happy with all the preinstalled software on US 20.10. I am going to do a clean install of 21.04 (in order to record all steps for further reference in my intrawiki) of mein KlingPad
[09:58] <Iamahuman4> Apres demain on fait la danse de nouveau Ubuntu de printemps :D :D
[10:00] <Iamahuman4> Nous esperons que le nouveau Ubuntu Studio sera aussi. Arrive-t-il apres demain?
[11:05] <sakrecoer[b]> I haven't looked in the progress! i'm sure it will come soon enough! <3
[13:07] <Sbur3> Will 21.04 keep the same desktop environment?
[13:08] <Sbur3> I mean, keep Plasma or will it change again?


[00:04] <KNERD> Is there a guide on building the OS? I am looking and not finding anythng
[00:53] <hallyn> cjwatson: yeah - thanks again, sorry for takkng your time with that
[13:41] <ahasenack> morning
[13:45] <bipul> Morning.
[13:45] <bipul> How to update Packages.gz file{Metadata information regarding /pool packages} inside the .iso ?
[13:45] <bipul> updating the Packages.gz at ./dist/CodeName/binary-amd64/Packages.gz file for .deb files placed at ./pool/main/{a-z}+library ? ?
[13:48] <ahasenack> no idea what that means or what you are trying to accomplish, sorry
[14:03] <bipul> ahasenack, Editing .iso image and placing my program into /pool
[14:03] <bipul> ./pool*


[00:16] <murmel> goddard: definitely, and I am missing a button for wwan
[02:40] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:03] <wez> AFternoon lotuspsychje!
[18:08] <goddard> oh one thing i absolutely hate about the top right menu is that things move
[18:08] <goddard> had an ethernet cord connected then removed it and all my buttons were in different places
[21:50] <bingoJACKPOT> Got an interview or I'm going through a job screening process with Canonical!
[21:50] <bingoJACKPOT> I won't give my legal name here unless someone is very trustworthy but if you're a Canonical employee, we may work together somehow.


[01:58] <doko> should I report a bug, if the stylesheet isn't correctly loaded, and the page looks messy?
[02:00] <beuno> doko: yes, with as much information as possible
[02:01] <doko> beuno: well, it's not reproducible ... even reloading makes the stylesheet appear
[02:01] <beuno> doko: konqueror?
[02:01] <doko> no, standard ubuntu firefox
[02:02] <beuno> well, it's a glitch in your system then probably
[02:02] <beuno> if you can reproduce it again, then report it please
[02:07] <jamesh> doko: there is an intermittent bug where firefox receives zero length replies to some requests
[02:07] <jamesh> doko: that is probably what you are seeing
[02:08] <doko> jamesh: should that be reported as a firefox issue?
[02:09] <jamesh> doko: I'm not sure it is a firefox issue -- I think it is specific to our site
[02:11] <doko> hmm, ok. fortunately it's a known issue
[02:13] <pochu> jamesh: doko has a different issue than the bin file... which is that the page loads, but without the css, which makes the page looks really ugly
[02:14] <pochu> doko: I also have that issue, but it's not very frequently
[02:14] <jamesh> pochu: I think it's the same issue, but occuring when loading CSS or javascript rather than the main page
[02:14] <pochu> well, then fixing it will fix the 3 problems :)
[02:15] <pochu> I have all them :(
[02:30] <doko> jamesh: interesting? on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/2.2.0-0ubuntu2 I get the stylecheet, but not on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org-l10n/2.2.0-0ubuntu2
[02:31] <pochu> doko: aren't you using the beta?
[02:31] <pochu> I have the stylesheet in both pages, though I'm with the beta
[02:32] <doko> no beta
[02:34] <doko> anyway, good night
[02:35] <jamesh> doko: consistently?
[02:36] <jamesh> doko: I haven't found a consistent way to trigger the problem (if it fails on one load, it passes the next time, etc)
[02:36] <doko> jamesh: you're right, a reload may fix it :-(
[02:57] <lcampagn> Anybody else having a hard time logging in to launchpad?
[02:58] <spiv> lcampagn: it's working ok for me.
[03:00] <lcampagn> When I try to log in, I just get the login screen again. No wrong password error message, just a fresh login screen.
[03:07] <zyga> I cannot access bug pages that are filed for my package
[03:07] <zyga> there are non-closed bugs around but the bug page says there are none
[03:10] <zyga> bah I got it
[03:10] <zyga> pages for specific release (feisty) do not contain bugs listed in the distro
[03:10] <zyga> that's not so good really - there are 3 places one can report a bug
[03:11] <zyga> 1) to a product
[03:11] <zyga> 2) to ubuntu source
[03:11] <zyga> 3) to ubuntu source for a specific release
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #98826 in launchpad-bazaar "codebrowse urls are long and confusing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98826
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #98828 in launchpad-bazaar "codebrowse source listings don't contain line number anchors" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98828
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #98867 in launchpad-bazaar "LP shows the http:// URL for branches that haven't been published yet." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98867
[09:06] <dneary> hi
[09:38] <carlos> morning
[09:40] <LaserJock> morning
[09:40] <LaserJock> I'm guessing it's time for me to go to bed
[09:40] <LaserJock> I've say good night and good morning to carlos in the same day
[09:41] <carlos> LaserJock: ;-)
[09:41] <LaserJock> good night all :-)
[09:47] <sadleder> hi, anyone here able to do a rename of a launchpad product
[09:47] <sadleder> ?
[10:00] <carlos> sadleder: If you are the owner, you should be able to do it
[10:01] <sadleder> carlos: am I?
[10:01] <carlos> sadleder: do you see an 'Administer' action on the Overview section ?
[10:02] <sadleder> carlos: I am not the owner of https://launchpad.net/gnomescan, but tienne told me he was not able to rename it
[10:03] <carlos> hmm, maybe is restricted to some admins, let me check
[10:03] <sadleder> hmm, "Project Maintainer: Registry Administrators"
[10:04] <carlos> sadleder: gnomescan is owned by Etienne
[10:06] <sadleder> ok, so how is he supposed to rename the product?
[10:06] <sadleder> it's name is now gnome-scan, not gnomescan
[10:10] <carlos> ok, it's something available only to admins
[10:10] <carlos> so he's not able to do that
[10:11] <carlos> and the fact that I have access to that page is just an accident
[10:11] <carlos> please, file a ticket at https://launchpad.net/launchpad/+tickets requesting the rename
[10:11] <carlos> so the admin that is suppsed to handle that request does it
[10:28] <sadleder> carlos: ok, thank you
[10:34] <carlos> sadleder: you are welcome
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #98950 in launchpad "Batched result pages break "click-sortable" columns" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98950
[12:29] <cprov> morning folks !
[12:50] <pochu> is LP down?
[12:51] <totalwormage> no
[12:51] <pochu> no, works now
[12:51] <pochu> :)
[12:51] <totalwormage> :p
[01:42] <Kuhrscher> Hello
[01:43] <Kuhrscher> carlos: Is it possible that k3b (version 1.0 in Feisty) still has the old 0.12.x template and translations in Rosetta?
[01:44] <Kuhrscher> carlos: Perhaps this happend because the translations have been released in a separate i18n package...
[02:44] <carlos> Kuhrscher: maybe, if the package is still in universe as it used to be in Edgy...
[02:45] <carlos> Kuhrscher: let me check...
[02:57] <dem> hmm, i submmited updated po/pot files to launchpad's translation tool like a few days ago and they are still not showing up in launchpad
[02:57] <dem> who do i need to gt in touch with
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #98942 in launchpad "Launchpad typo error -1" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98942
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #98944 in launchpad "Launchpad typo error -2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/98944
[03:01] <salgado> dem, carlos
[03:02] <dem> okay
[03:02] <carlos> Kuhrscher: new translations are imported, seems to be an outdated .pot file, but I can fix it quite easily, thanks for the warning
[03:02] <carlos> dem: doing .po uploads?
[03:04] <dem> yeah, sent them in (i think) tue morning
[03:04] <dem> checked on them today still not update
[03:04] <dem> the project name is: drapes
[03:05] <carlos> the queue is a bit busy right now
[03:06] <carlos> so unfortunately, is normal
[03:07] <carlos> dem: we are working to give high priority to non Ubuntu imports so when Ubuntu has a bunch of imports, products are not affected
[03:19] <dem> ok
[04:32] <Kuhrscher> Carlos: Thanks for checking the k3b issue
[04:32] <carlos> np, thanks for tell us about the problem
[04:33] <Kuhrscher> Btw, is there any progress regarding these desktop-* po files?
[04:34] <Kuhrscher> Carlos: For german I uploaded the translations manually but they still seem to be stuck in the queue...
[04:35] <carlos> Kuhrscher: right now, the queue is handling a full kde-i18n-* import
[04:35] <carlos> I fixed some, but until current import finish
[04:35] <carlos> is a bit hard to know what else needs fixing
[04:35] <carlos> so I'm just waiting for that run to be finished
[04:35] <Kuhrscher> Isn't the kde translation already imported?
[04:36] <carlos> full KDE import takes a while to complete
[04:36] <carlos> it is
[04:36] <carlos> but
[04:36] <carlos> seems like after beta we got a new version imported
[04:37] <carlos> in fact, I guess that's because Riddell added the missing desktop .po files
[04:37] <Kuhrscher> Interesting, I though the most recent version is already in Feisty...
[04:37] <Kuhrscher> Ahh, nice to hear :)
[06:59] <shirish> ok anybody up?
[07:01] <shirish> any launchpad staff here?
[07:02] <shirish> any launchpad experts here?
[07:03] <pochu> shirish: what's up?
[07:03] <shirish> pochu, can u delete a bug report reported by me, I have made a duplicate
[07:03] <pochu> shirish: I can mark it as a duplicate
[07:03] <pochu> and you too ;)
[07:03] <shirish> how do I mark a duplicate?
[07:04] <pochu> shirish: there is a "Mark as duplicate" in the left menu, isn't there?
[07:05] <shirish> pochu: got it, as marking duplicate should I give the bug no. of what its duplicate of
[07:05] <pochu> shirish: yeah :)
[07:06] <shirish> pochu: Did it, can u look at my bug report & give me any suggestions as to what I should have improved upon?
[07:07] <pochu> shirish: if you give me the bug number, yes
[07:07] <shirish> pochu, the duplicate I marked is l8ter on when I was in ubuntu I tried to use the launchpad integration in 7.04 beta & it didn't add much
[07:07] <shirish> just a moment, please
[07:07] <shirish> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/99090
[07:07] <ubotu> Malone bug 99090 in Ubuntu "apt-get unable to read /etc/apt/sources.list" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[07:08] <pochu> shirish: the first thing is that the bug is filed under no package. It should be under "apt"
[07:08] <pochu> shirish: so the devs can notice it
[07:08] <shirish> damn, now I can't change tht
[07:08] <pochu> yes, you can
[07:08] <shirish> I was trying for apt-get
[07:08] <shirish> pochu: how? sorry, newbie here
[07:09] <pochu> shirish: click in "Ubuntu" (beside unconfirmed" and point the package to "apt")
[07:10] <shirish> pochu: I did a mistake here, instead of clicking on Ubuntu I clicked & now Baltix linux down of Ubuntu, anyway I can delete tht first?
[07:11] <pochu> hehe, what did you do?
[07:11] <pochu> shirish: we can reject it :)
[07:11] <pochu> shirish: you don't need to add another task, just change the "Ubuntu" task
[07:11] <pochu> to point to apt (Ubuntu)
[07:12] <shirish> I already did tht, but now can I kill the task somehow or no?
[07:12] <shirish> also is there a way to reject or delete it by the reporter themselves or no?
[07:14] <shirish> pochu: are u there?
[07:14] <pochu> shirish: yeah, there is
[07:15] <pochu> shirish: you can't delete the task, but you can reject it
[07:15] <shirish> pochu: how?
[07:15] <pochu> shirish: click on apt (Baltix) and reject it
[07:16] <shirish> pochu: thnx I think I did it, should it look like tht?
[07:16] <pochu> shirish: cool :)
[07:17] <shirish> pochu: ok thnx, now I wait for ur verdict on what else I could have added or deleted from the bug-report itself
[07:18] <pochu> let's see
[07:20] <pochu> shirish: run "apt-get" in the terminal, and put the output in a comment. Also, attach in the comment your file /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:20] <pochu> shirish: BTW, the main server is in London, I think :)
[07:21] <shirish> pochu: I'm in windows atm, I'm also unable to run GAIM for some reason, don't know why, although 'm able to browse the net, right now talking through windowsxp
[07:21] <pochu> shirish: ok, when you are back to Ubuntu, update your system, and then see if it works again
[07:21] <shirish> pochu: you mean change it back to main server?
[07:22] <pochu> if you can dist-upgrade with your mirror, you don't have to do that
[07:22] <pochu> but if it doesn't work, change to another mirror
[07:23] <shirish> pochu: what do u mean dist-upgrade please clarify, although I can see the indian mirror & have also downloaded couple of debs just to see tht the mirror is working or not.
[07:25] <pochu> shirish: open Update Manager, update, and install the updates
[07:25] <shirish> pochu: also can u again run by what ddo u mean by run "apt-get" in the terminal, and put the output in a comment? How do I do tht?
[07:25] <shirish> pochu: I have tried tht with the Main server as well as the Indian Server doesn't work, if u want will try again
[07:26] <pochu> shirish: open a terminal, write "apt-get" and type enter, then copy everything and put it in the bug report
[07:26] <shirish> the error comment of not being able to read sources, it came while i did sudo apt-get update
[07:26] <pochu> shirish: also attach /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:26] <shirish> pochu: ok will do.
[07:26] <pochu> shirish: what you've filed isn't a bug, but a problem with your mirror (which isn't Ubuntu's fault, btw)
[07:27] <shirish> pochu: I have been trying to update both with the main server & the indian server & with both its failing, with the main server, I'm able to just get the package-listing as to how many packages are updates but after it fails, will try again though.
[07:28] <shirish> I hope ur here when I come back, sorry for being a nuisance
[08:26] <samurai> hi everyone
[08:26] <samurai> have a quick question?
[08:27] <samurai> if you experience an issue with Launchpad/Malone how should that be reported?
[08:27] <ddaa> samurai: by filing a bug on "malone"
[08:27] <ddaa> though, it depends on the nature of the issue
[08:27] <samurai> error report upload error
[08:28] <ddaa> mh... that's probably a known bug, but malone is the right place too look
[08:28] <samurai> basically ddaa encountered an error while trying to upload a crash report from another app
[08:28] <samurai> k thanks
[08:28] <ddaa> https://launchpad.net/malone/+bugs
[08:29] <samurai> thanks much
[08:29] <ddaa> samurai: sounds like https://bugs.beta.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/87638
[08:29] <ubotu> Malone bug 87638 in malone "Attempting to upload a crash report, apport failed with "HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]   - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt)
[08:29] <ddaa> I mean https://bugs.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/87638
[08:30] <samurai> I'll take a look a that one too
[08:34] <samurai> actually it isn't related to that one
[08:34] <samurai> although I did log one the other day that was similar to that
[08:41] <shirish> ok anybody out there?
[08:42] <shirish> can somebody help me with finding out, the bug report tht my launchpad integrated with Ubuntu sent?
[08:42] <kiko> shirish, huh?
[08:43] <shirish> kiko, hi I am using feisty which has this report a problem thing, it sent a bug-report of an application crash, anyway to know where it sent
[08:43] <kiko> shirish, it sent it to ubuntu/+bugs
[08:43] <shirish> kiko: so how do I find out which one is mine & can u give me the whole link please.
[08:46] <matsubara> shirish: did the tool give you any number or code to find out your bug number?
[08:46] <kiko> it must have
[08:48] <shirish> matsubara: how do I give the tool any number or code?
[08:49] <shirish> it seems to a pretty automated beast or is there any hidden preference to it?
[08:50] <samurai> ddaa: where I get confused is in selecting the package with the problem. If I put "Malone" in as the package  I get a message saying "malone does not exist in Ubuntu"
[08:51] <ddaa> samurai: malone is not a package
[08:51] <matsubara> samurai: malone is not a ubuntu package. it's the name of the bug trackers itself
[08:51] <matsubara> bug tracker, i mean
[08:51] <ddaa> samurai: and launchpad is not _just_ the ubuntu bug tracker
[08:51] <samurai> right so how do you log an error with Malone
[08:51] <samurai> that was my original question above
[08:52] <ddaa> https://launchpad.net/malone/+bugs
[08:52] <ddaa> as I pasted before
[08:52] <samurai> sorry I didn't understand that then...
[08:52] <matsubara> shirish: ok, let's start from the beginning. When your application crashed, what happened?
[08:52] <ddaa> even https://launchpad.net/malone/+filebug
[08:52] <samurai> cool thanks for being a pest :-)
[08:52] <samurai> actually sorry for me being a pest
[08:53] <shirish> matsubara: it was software sources which crashed & then the ubuntu bug report a problem thing showed up
[08:53] <samurai> I need more coffee :-)
[08:53] <ddaa> nevermind, it's going to our quotes page anyway
[08:53] <samurai> nice
[08:53] <shirish> it asked me whether I want to give the smaller report or the bigger report
[08:53] <samurai> ddaa: now I get it
[08:54] <shirish> matsubara: it asked me whether I want to give the smaller report or the bigger report
[08:54] <matsubara> shirish: ok, I'm following. and then?
[08:54] <shirish> matsubara: the smaller report was 23.1 KB & the bigger report was 1 MB
[08:55] <shirish> matsubara: then naturally I went for the bigger report, it reported & closed by itself
[08:55] <shirish> there was no report as to whether it was successful or not, if it was successful, any  bug no. or something like mozilla does
[08:55] <shirish> matsubara: there was no report as to whether it was successful or not, if it was successful, any  bug no. or something like mozilla does
[08:55] <shirish> matsubara: mozilla/firefox does
[08:56] <shirish> matsubara: also do not know if there is a cache or log where it has all the things it did, it should be somewhere
[08:57] <shirish> matsubara: any clues or nothing at all?
[08:59] <shirish> I guess not :(
[09:00] <matsubara> shirish: AFAIK, somewhere between the "choose report to send" and "reporting it", it should present an URL or code that you can use to finish the bug report
[09:06] <ubotu> New bug: #99127 in malone "Encounter a urlopen error 104 when Apport was uploading to Malone" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99127
[09:37] <kiko> the also notified list for ubuntu answers is just amazing.
[09:47] <jwendell> Hi kiko. Could you change bug tracker for f-spot? It uses gnome bugzilla
[09:47] <kiko> jwendell, is it part of the gnome project?
[09:48] <jwendell> kiko, not yet
[09:48] <kiko> jwendell, do you want to own it?
[09:48] <jwendell> kiko, no
[09:48] <kiko> ok
[09:48] <kiko> done
[09:49] <kiko> jwendell, thanks! keep it coming
[09:49] <jwendell> kiko, thanks
[10:02] <bdmurray> Does malone just silently drop e-mail attachments for bugs?
[10:03] <kiko> bdmurray, yeah, currently.
[10:06] <bdmurray> I understand there is a bug about it already, but would there way to e-mail senders of attachments to add them via the web interface?
[10:06] <bdmurray> I seem to be telling people to go to the bugs web page a lot recently.
[10:09] <kiko> bdmurray, hmmmm. I think I get errormail when that happens. do you really want me to look into this today? :)
[10:11] <bdmurray> kiko: what do you mean?
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #99160 in launchpad "test bug -- rejected" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99160
[10:22] <kiko> bdmurray, well, just that I'm super busy today
[10:22] <bdmurray> kiko: I understand.  If seems technically possible I'd be happy to submit a bug report.
[10:23] <bdmurray> If it that is
[10:23] <kiko> bdmurray, I think there's a bug open and BjornT_ actually meant to fix it a month or two ago
[10:23] <kiko> but we have been overrun
[10:24] <ploum> hello
[10:24] <ploum> I want to request access to staging.launchpad.net
[10:24] <ploum> In order to be able to develop conseil
[10:24] <matsubara> bdmurray: bug 99160 is your answer. I just filed it with an attachment. the attachment is silently dropped and now warning
[10:24] <ploum> http://conseil.fritalk.com/
[10:24] <ubotu> Malone bug 99160 in launchpad "test bug -- rejected" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99160
[10:24] <bdmurray> kiko: okay well if best solution isn't far off then a temporarly solution seems excessive
[10:24] <kiko> yeah, it's actually not so difficult
[10:25] <bdmurray> not as difficult as my typing it seems
[10:26] <matsubara> bdmurray: bug 30225 is the one you're looking for, btw.
[10:26] <ubotu> Malone bug 30225 in malone "Attach files via email" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/30225 - Assigned to Bjrn Tillenius (bjornt)
[10:26] <bdmurray> matsubara: thanks I found that
[10:27] <kiko> matsubara, you are 10/10
[10:27] <matsubara> ploum: staging is currently closed for some internal testing, we'll re-open it next week
[10:28] <ploum> matsubara: it will stay open then ?
[10:28] <matsubara> ploum: AFAIK, yes.
[10:29] <ploum> (so I suppose that I cannot join the beta-test team then ;-)
[10:29] <matsubara> ploum: yes, you can. Just apply in launchpad-beta-testers
[10:30] <ploum> I applied
[10:31] <ploum> thanks :-)
[10:31] <matsubara> mrevell: ^
[10:43] <nilton> hello to all
[10:44] <LaserJock> hi nilton
[10:45] <nilton> hello
[10:45] <nilton> I ask myself in which time arrived the CDs that pedi is for the Flisol Peru
[10:45] <LaserJock> 2/act
[10:46] <LaserJock> argg, sorry
[11:58] <kiko> what did we do now
[11:58] <somerville32> You made salgado leave, no doubt.
[11:59] <kiko> he doesn't want to go to the party on the weekend
[11:59] <kiko> no clue why
[11:59] <somerville32> hehe.
[11:59] <somerville32> Anyhows, You wouldn't happen to know if the voting stuff salgado was working on is ready or not, would you?
[12:00] <kiko> depends on what voting stuff that is
[12:03] <somerville32> The voting stuff for the CC nomination confirmation vote
[12:04] <kiko> what was pending work on the launchpad side, do you know?
[12:05] <Kmos> when there is the next developer meeting? isn't at topic
[12:06] <somerville32> Thu 29 Mar, 1400 UTC
[12:07] <kiko> always on thursday, yes.
[12:07] <Kmos> today is 30 :)
[12:07] <Kmos> and in one our here will be 31 :)
[12:07] <Kmos> *hour
[12:08] <Kmos> 05 April ?
[12:08] <Kmos> :)
[12:08] <Kmos> or 18 ?
[12:08] <somerville32> 18th is Wednesday
[12:08] <Kmos> yeah
[12:08] <Kmos> 19
[12:10] <somerville32> :)


[00:13] <Ze_Force> Hi, i would like to know what ppa to add to have the latest version of ardour ? im under US 13.04
[00:14] <HarryHaaren> Ze_Force, checkout the KXStudio repos, they're usually up to date: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Repositories
[00:14] <Ze_Force> ok thanks
[00:14] <HarryHaaren> y/w
[00:14] <Ze_Force> :)
[06:15] <studio-user598> hi i'm install u-studio right now
[06:16] <studio-user598> is 13.10 fairly stable?
[06:17] <studio-user598> hello, last time i used this distro was 11.04, has it gotten better
[06:18] <studio-user598> will be using for web development, design work
[06:20] <studio-user598> okay, i'll try it out bye
[07:33] <jakezen2> just dropped to say hi with a fresh copy of 13.10 salamander
[07:35] <jakezen2> busy but hope to contribute something to this community
[07:39] <jakezen2> ok ciao
[11:34] <maxxsire> What are some good high end tablets that you can install ubuntu studio on?
[11:48] <maxxsire> What's a good high end tablet to install ubuntu studio on?
[11:48] <zequence> maxxsire: I haven't heard of anyone trying that
[11:48] <zequence> maxxsire: There's no arm version of the linux-lowlatency kernel yet
[11:49] <zequence> If you can get Xubuntu installed, Ubuntu Studio should work fine too, except for the kernel
[11:49] <zequence> One could install one of the other flavors, and then add packages
[11:51] <maxxsire> So regular ubuntu would go on then? Also would ubuntu studio work with a high end slate or is that the same thing?
[12:05] <maxxsire> I was looking to do something like here (http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/install-linux-on-your-x86-tablet-five-distros-to-choose-from-1162825) but on a high end tablet/slate. You say I can just add the video and audio packeages and such and it should work correct?
[12:06] <maxxsire> packages
[12:21] <zequence> maxxsire: Yes, but I have no idea about how well that stuff would work
[12:43] <maxxsire> Would what they did here (http://www.techradar.com/us/news/software/operating-systems/install-linux-on-your-x86-tablet-five-distros-to-choose-from-1162825) work on a higher end tablet? If so which ones would work? Would any windows 8 tablet work?
[12:45] <maxxsire> Thank you for your time!
[22:48] <ornj> Why should I have to look so fucking hard to find the minimum system requirements for the distro and how much space it'll take?


[00:55] <cjohnston> jono: jcastro JFo (and anyone else) can you please RT http://twitter.com/#!/chris_johnston/status/44923902635413504
[01:03] <nhandler> cjohnston: I gave it a retweet
[01:03] <jono> cjohnston, done :-)
[01:05] <cjohnston> thanks
[01:55] <mhall119> me too
[02:50]  * doctormo cheers
[02:50] <doctormo> Finally finished the resumable upload wsgi server
[03:09] <nigelb> hey doctormo :)
[03:12] <doctormo> hey nigelb, how's your two weeks been?
[03:13] <nigelb> doctormo: not bad.  a week in hospital and week at home.
[03:13] <doctormo> Everything ok I hope nigelb?
[03:13] <doctormo> And will you be coming to UDS?
[03:13] <nigelb> All well now.
[03:13] <nigelb> I dunno, I haven't applied for sponsorship yet.
[03:21] <doctormo> nigelb: Do you have some time to spare to play wesnoth with me?
[03:23] <nigelb> doctormo: tomorrow morning your time?
[03:23] <nigelb> I'll install the packages \o/
[03:24] <doctormo> nigelb: Yes, which do you prefer RPG or Stratedgy?
[03:26] <nigelb> doctormo: I've never played it.  So your pick :D
[03:31] <doctormo> nigelb: We'll do SX RPG, we'll die, but it'll be fun.
[03:37] <nigelb> lol
[03:38] <doctormo> nigelb: Let me know when you have it running, I think we'll need to install two bits inside game.
[03:40] <nigelb> okay :)
[04:01] <doctormo> nigelb: How's it going? slow dl?
[04:08] <nigelb> doctormo: yeah :\
[04:10] <doctormo> nigelb: Does it give you a time/target situation?
[04:11] <nigelb> doctormo: I'm going to have to shutdown and get to work and continue the install :(
[04:11] <doctormo> nigelb: OK, get it installed and we'll try again for tomorrow.
[04:11] <nigelb> ok \o/
[07:52] <dpm> good morning all
[07:52] <nigelb> morning dpm
[07:53] <dpm> hey nigelb
[08:05] <dholbach> good morning
[08:06] <nigelb> morning ara, dholbach
[08:07] <dholbach> hi nigelb
[08:12] <nigelb> where's kim0 today :)
[08:12] <dholbach> if he's not working, he's demonstrating - like every other good Egyptian! :)
[08:13] <nigelb> hehehe
[08:13] <nigelb> I've been tasked with telling him to remove lernid bits from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCloudDays :D
[08:13] <dpm> hey dholbach
[08:13] <dholbach> nigelb, man, it's a wiki :)
[08:14] <dholbach> just add a few "## ...."
[08:14] <dholbach> hey dpm
[08:14] <dholbach> dpm, how's the revolution in Catalonia?
[08:14] <nigelb> dholbach: oh, well.  wiki and I are not friends lately.
[08:14] <dholbach> I guess you could say that
[08:15]  * popey hugs dholbach
[08:15]  * dholbach hugs popey back
[08:16]  * nigelb hugs popey and dholbach
[08:16] <popey> I'm happy \o/
[08:16] <nigelb> (there seems to be a flash group hug)
[08:16] <nigelb> popey: about what... ;)
[08:16] <m4n1sh> nigelb: lernid is deprecated?
[08:16] <nigelb> m4n1sh: the classroom team no longer recommends it
[08:17] <dholbach> m4n1sh, it's broken right now
[08:17] <m4n1sh> so either it needs to be fixed
[08:17] <m4n1sh> or people should be told not to use it
[08:17] <m4n1sh> middle way is bad
[08:17] <AlanBell> the -nl team were thinking about doing a web based something similar I think
[08:18] <nigelb> m4n1sh: we don't tell people to use it.
[08:18] <m4n1sh> so what to do with slides feature of lernid
[08:19]  * m4n1sh never used lernid
[08:19] <nigelb> meh
[08:19] <nigelb> it never worked well even for us.
[08:19] <nigelb> and out of all the sessions, very few actually use the slides
[08:19] <m4n1sh> for me slides are meh, but for a huge population slides is a + point
[08:19] <m4n1sh> nigelb: true that
[08:19] <m4n1sh> to be frank i dont remember anyone using slides
[08:20] <m4n1sh> *dont see
[08:20]  * nigelb stabs the wiki repeatedly.
[08:21] <nigelb> 503. Error. With. Preview.
[08:21] <dpm> dholbach, slowly getting there. On our way to overthrow the king
[08:21]  * dholbach hugs dpm
[08:21]  * dpm hugs dholbach :)
[08:31] <AlanBell> popey: have you heard anything about downtime on the wiki?
[08:33] <AlanBell> by my calculations they were hoping to schedule some downtime last week to finally do the upgrade
[08:38] <popey> yes and no
[08:38] <popey> yes, we have asked for feedback about what's happening, and no its not done yet, bugs have held them up, we'll probably get another status update later this week I'd imagine
[09:07] <vish> anyone know who dave neary is? (apart from the census report, I'm not sure if he is in GNOME foundation or something else.. )
[09:36] <topyli> vish: long time guadec organizer, alumnus foundation director, little things like that :)
[09:38] <vish> ha! well, he sure is again stirring up GNOME folks with his latest post.. :s
[09:40] <topyli> i suppose :)
[09:41] <czajkowski> God morning
[09:41] <czajkowski> *Good
[09:41] <m4n1sh> vish: probably I can cook a conspiracy theory "Every week one controversy in the GNOME world"
[09:42] <vish> m4n1sh: yea, its getting very silly nowadays
[09:42] <m4n1sh> Planet Gnome = bait minefield
[09:42] <m4n1sh> very tough to walk across without stepping on one
[10:04] <kim0> morning everyone
[10:05] <kim0> nigelb: I think I already killed lernid from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCloudDays
[10:16] <nigelb> kim0: I commented it out today :)
[10:16] <kim0> oh, cool then :)
[10:34] <duanedesign> hello all
[11:46] <duanedesign> dholbach: i think i know what the Lernid bug is that is preventing it from working. I had the same bug in one of my apps.
[11:47]  * duanedesign is commenting on conersation form hours ago :P
[12:06] <Pendulum> duanedesign: well the main problem with lernid is there are no maintainers. So bug fixes mostly aren't happening
[12:07] <Pendulum> ( nhandler did a few at one point, but I don't think he has had time to for a while now)
[12:07] <nigelb> +1
[12:08] <duanedesign> Pendulum: yeah. I remember talking to him about it awhile back
[12:08] <duanedesign> Pendulum: he was trying to fix some bugs but was not comftorable doing it
[12:09] <nigelb> we all had this sort of talk where we thought what we'd do seeing that some of us in the team didn't get it work either
[12:09] <nigelb> finally, it was like "its far too painful to support it than not supporting it"
[12:09] <duanedesign> Pendulum: he admits to being not very good at python. Though I think that he is being modesyt
[12:09] <duanedesign> modest*
[12:09] <nigelb> haha, I agree there
[12:12] <duanedesign> nigelb: what do you think for the Parental Control wiki page. One page with an  overview of options and then a couple more detailed pages on seting up specific solutions?
[12:17] <nigelb> duanedesign: yes, that'd be great :D
[13:31] <cjohnston> mornin
[13:34] <Pici> so it seems
[13:35] <mhall119> lies, I'm going back to bed
[16:00] <jono_> no dpm?
[16:03] <dholbach> jono_, * dpm hat die Verbindung getrennt (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[16:03] <dholbach> I would suspect internet problems
[16:03] <jono_> ok np
[16:03] <dholbach> (and it was just 9 minutes ago)
[16:04] <jono_> cheers
[16:28] <czajkowski> *yawns*
[16:28] <cjohnston> agreed
[16:35] <jcastro> dpm: dibs on bacon when you're finished with him
[16:36] <czajkowski> jcastro: want some syrup with that
[16:36] <czajkowski> :p
[16:36] <jcastro> gross!
[16:36] <czajkowski> ;)
[16:36] <dholbach> jcastro++
[16:37] <cjohnston> syrup on (real) bacon is good
[16:37] <Pici> D:
[16:37] <dpm> jcastro, I'm finished, but he had another important call after mine
[16:37] <popey> dont start this again!
[16:37] <jcastro> cool
[16:37] <czajkowski> hmm no paultag
[16:37] <jcastro> cjohnston: omg someone fixed your bug
[16:39] <mhall119> wan't me
[16:43] <cjohnston> what bug
[16:43] <jcastro> the uds.u.c one
[16:44] <czajkowski> http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/it-fud-blog/2011/03/oracle-hardware-support-rip-of-1.html
[16:44] <cjohnston> the rt?
[16:44] <jcastro> yeah
[16:44] <cjohnston> ya.. i got the email earlier
[16:45]  * cjohnston notes to file a bug about the picture on uds.u.c
[16:45] <jcastro> TOO LATE
[16:45]  * jcastro marks Opinion
[16:45] <mhall119> you want the picture with the caption?
[16:46] <jcastro> heh
[16:46] <cjohnston> no
[16:47] <czajkowski> the pictures go by very fast
[16:49] <mhall119> so did UDS
[16:49] <czajkowski> :)
[16:53] <cjohnston> I have my state Fire Officer test tomorrow
[16:53] <czajkowski> which means?
[17:08] <czajkowski> yay 12 teams now on UGJ http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/567/detail/
[17:09] <mhall119> \o/
[17:09] <czajkowski> time to do more reminding
[17:09] <mhall119> "40 people from 11 LoCos and 9 countries are participating in this event!"
[17:09] <czajkowski> but 12 events, 1 virtual one
[17:09] <mhall119> looks like we should do more to encourage people to register attendance
[17:10] <mhall119> which one is virtual?
[17:10] <Technovi1ing> czajkowski: can't get the Utah Team to ever to anything for the UGJ
[17:11] <czajkowski> Technovi1ing: mind if I ask why ?
[17:11] <czajkowski> mhall119: got confused nm
[17:11] <czajkowski> sorry
[17:12] <mhall119> Venezuela has 2 events, which accounts for why we have 12 events, but 11 locos
[17:12] <czajkowski> mhall119: and one was in january
[17:12] <czajkowski> I suspect it's a typo
[17:12] <mhall119> possibly, but I don't speak spanish
[17:12] <mhall119> so I don't know
[17:12] <Technoviking> shrug?  no one is interested? the last to I got a room, and sat there by myself for a couple of hours in IRC
[17:12] <mhall119> I do like seeing that map though
[17:13] <czajkowski> Technoviking: is it they dont know what to do ?
[17:13] <czajkowski> I'm only curious as I suspect your team isn't the only one
[17:13] <czajkowski> and ireland isn't doing one this year so far
[17:14] <czajkowski> which sadens me no end
[17:14] <cjohnston> jcastro: is it just me, or did uds.u.c revert? it looked correct to me this morning
[17:14] <jcastro> not sure I didn't check it
[17:15] <cjohnston> the top bar still has the wrong color and the arrow is off again
[17:15] <cjohnston> i think you or jono can fix the "—!>"
[17:15] <dholbach> alright my friends
[17:16] <dholbach> I call it a day
[17:16] <popey> o/ dholbach
[17:16] <dholbach> have a great rest of yours - see you tomorrow
[17:16] <mhall119> night dholbach
[17:16] <czajkowski> dholbach: toodles
[17:16] <cjohnston> o/
[17:16]  * dholbach hugs you all
[17:16] <dholbach> :)
[17:26] <cjohnston> jcastro: im working with ISS right now to figure it out
[17:30] <cjohnston> jcastro / jono has anyone made changes to anything on uds.u.c in the last day or two?
[17:34] <jcastro> not me
[17:34] <cjohnston> well.. its refixed again
[17:34] <cjohnston> lol
[17:34] <jcastro> I added some info on Friday
[17:35] <jcastro> oh
[23:37] <doctormo> hey jono
[23:37] <jono> hey doctormo
[23:37] <doctormo> Your thoughts? http://divajutta.com/doctormo/art/edu/perspective.png
[23:38] <jono> looks good doctormo :-)
[23:40] <AlanBell> nice
[23:40] <AlanBell> there is sillyness and timewasting going on in #ubuntu-trivia right now if anyone wants to join in
[23:40] <AlanBell> we added 170 new scifi questions


[11:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: thermald (jammy-proposed/main) [2.4.9-1ubuntu0.1 => 2.4.9-1ubuntu0.2] (core)
[12:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected thermald [source] (jammy-proposed) [2.5.1-1~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[12:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted thermald [source] (jammy-proposed) [2.4.9-1ubuntu0.2]
[12:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: thermald (focal-proposed/main) [1.9.1-1ubuntu0.6 => 1.9.1-1ubuntu0.7] (core)
[15:51] <jbicha> could we ignore autopkgtests for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/22.3.6-1ubuntu2 since it fixes an apt file conflict & isn't any worse than the version already in lunar?
[16:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-drivers-common (kinetic-proposed/main) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>.1 => 1:<IP_ADDRESS>.2] (desktop-core)
[16:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-drivers-common (jammy-proposed/main) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>~<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:<IP_ADDRESS>~<IP_ADDRESS>] (desktop-core)
[16:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-drivers-common (jammy-proposed/main) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>~<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:<IP_ADDRESS>~<IP_ADDRESS>] (desktop-core)
[16:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-drivers-common (kinetic-proposed/main) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>.1 => 1:<IP_ADDRESS>.2] (desktop-core)
[16:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ubuntu-drivers-common [source] (kinetic-proposed) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>.2]
[16:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ubuntu-drivers-common [source] (jammy-proposed) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>~<IP_ADDRESS>]
[16:47] <ginggs> jbicha: sounds reasonable, hint added
[19:32] <ginggs> jbicha: please check your libmicrohttpd sync, it may need to be a merge
[19:34] <vpa1977> amurray: permission for feature freeze for radare2 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/radare2-cutter/+bug/2009553 was granted. Should I open MP with your changes for radare2?
[19:34] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2009553 in radare2-cutter (Ubuntu) "[FFe] FTBS radare2-cutter due to radare2 package  missing in lunar" [Undecided, Triaged]
[20:42] <ahasenack> I'm seeing ppc64el tests (fdroidserver) fail in the install stage (kind: install), where the timeout is 3000s
[20:42] <ahasenack> I mean, they fail because the timeout is reached
[20:42] <ahasenack> that's 3000s to apt-get install things, and is not enough?
[20:43] <ahasenack> apt is cut short while downloading packages:
[20:43] <ahasenack> Get:239 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu lunar/universe ppc64el apksigner all 31.0.2-1 [438 kB]
[20:43] <ahasenack> Get:240 http://ftpmaster.internal/ubuntu lunar/main ppc64el openjdk-17-jdk-headless ppc64el 17.0.6+10-1 [217 MB]
[20:43] <ahasenack> autopkgtest-virt-ssh [14:38:03]: ------- nova console-log f6af8a17-d7e1-4a88-9b88-03d64515a81a (adt-lunar-ppc64el-fdroidserver-20230308-113039-lrg-root5) ------
[20:44] <ahasenack> I don't know what's going on in that dep8 ppc64el "cloud". we can move this package to the bigger timemout class I suppose, if we concede that apt-get install can take 1h
[20:44] <ahasenack> or is there some known issue going on over there, like with s390x?
[20:49] <vpa1977> Hi, nvda2speechd package attempts to download rust from internet. It is non-free and thus allowed to do it. Should it be removed from Ubuntu as we can not build it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvda2speechd/+bug/2009747
[20:49] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2009747 in nvda2speechd (Ubuntu) "nvda2speechd fails to build due to the external network access" [Undecided, New]
[21:04] <ahasenack> oh, openjdk tests are already big_package tests, but since they are versioned, we need to add the new ones to the list
[21:04] <ahasenack> last one was -14
[21:07] <vpa1977> ahasenack: I probably should remove jtreg tests from autopkgtest in line with openjdk-17, package aqa-tests and use them for regression. Currently it is rather flaky since we include tier4 tests (performance/stress/flaky) and try to run them in an underprovisioned vm.
[21:09] <ahasenack> hmpf, a few days ago, the test passed in less than 30min, and it installed the same amount of packages
[21:09] <ahasenack> the ppc64el vms got slower since then
[21:09] <ahasenack> or the network, or disk (while downloading packages)
[21:10] <ahasenack> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/f/fdroidserver/lunar/ppc64el is my sample
[23:55] <amurray> vpa1977: no need for an MP - I can just upload the source package as is and it will get automatically merged into git etc
[23:58] <amurray> vpa1977: done
[23:58] <amurray> bah and of course I only now realise that the changelog entry doesn't have the LP bug number in it... sigh
[23:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: radare2 (lunar-proposed/primary) [5.5.0+dfsg-1ubuntu1]