[12:10] <srdjant> uwo: you have to check /sys/bus/usb/devices/  or run dmesg and see what it says about your device.
[12:11] <srdjant> uwo: actually i think the kernel is already using the usb-storage driver, and if I understand correctly, you only want to change the icon...
[12:13] <apallo19> noone's talking!
[12:13] <srdjant> i am!
[12:13] <apallo19> hiya wolfmanz
[12:14] <wolfmanz> hello
[12:16] <uwo> srdjant: the icon is one thing - but it is just one of the consequences - on kcontrol i can't change separate options for my real camera and for the ipod, because both are recognised as cameras - when i do properties on the ipod icon on desktop, it also says camera....
[12:16] <A|i3N> Hey is there an HTML editor for linux that for all practical purpose looks like Front Page?
[12:16] <david_> yes, mozilla composer
[12:16] <apallo19> you could always install frontpage...
[12:16] <A|i3N> or would that be open offices version
[12:16] <A|i3N> with wine you mean, apallo?
[12:16] <apallo19> yeah
[12:16] <fdoving> nite all.
[12:16] <apallo19> nite
[12:17] <A|i3N> nah.. hehe.. i want a linux version... after the IE i installed didn't quite work the same as in windows i don't think I'd put front page on
[12:17] <A|i3N> David_ can I get that from the repository?
[12:17] <apallo19> meh, wine works for me with almost no problems
[12:17] <srdjant> front page is evil. use something else. dreamweaver or quanta.
[12:17] <david_> yes, let me see
[12:17] <cexar> anybody know how to configure a webserver in apache2 ?
[12:18] <apallo19> could try googleing freeware wysiwyg webpage editor
[12:18] <srdjant> uwo: I don;t know how to configure that then. I've never had a usb camera and don't know how kde reacts to one. Also never had an ipod. :/
[12:18] <david_> and you will get tons of win software
[12:18] <A|i3N> there isn't a Netobjects Fusion-like version available for linux is there?
[12:18] <apallo19> so narrow it
[12:18] <cexar> anyone?
[12:19] <david_> didnt found in the repos, try to find a deb
[12:19] <srdjant> cexar: edit the apache configuration file
[12:19] <cexar> yeah, i did it, but it doesnt work
[12:19] <srdjant> and that means what?
[12:20] <cexar> i've edited apache2.conf
[12:20] <cexar> but can't resolve domains
[12:21] <srdjant> can you resolve domains? maybe it's a problem with your linux setup, and not apache2
[12:22] <cexar> can resolve the DNS ie selected
[12:22] <cexar> but i have internet ok
[12:22] <cexar> really i need to redirect a domain to my local server
[12:23] <Fo0p> y0
[12:23] <Fo0p> bandit
[12:27] <Danish> i tried but apache failed on windows can somebody help set it up on kubuntu
[12:29] <cexar> ok
[12:30] <cexar> i guess no one more knows anything
[12:33] <josh__> wow
[12:33] <josh__> kernel panic
[12:34] <josh__> anyways doesn anyone mind helping me with my realtek drivers?
[12:34] <srdjant> :(
[12:34] <josh__> yeh i'm pretty mad about this
[12:35] <josh__> but all the errors happened when they tried finding alsa
[12:35] <srdjant> realtek are pretty good, should work
[12:35] <srdjant> what kernel version?
[12:35] <josh__> and it didn't detect my sound card
[12:35] <josh__> uh i dont know actually
[12:35] <josh__> but i'm doing a huge update right now
[12:36] <josh__> ok after it does this massive update i'll check what kernel i have
[12:38] <arkygeek> hi
[12:39] <nkRush> who gets such hostnames: open.192.194.66.in-addr.arpa ? oO
[12:39] <arkygeek> so i have kubuntu installed, configured, and actually working prtty dang well
[12:39] <arkygeek> :D
[12:40] <josh__> k i'm removing adept then reinstalling
[12:41] <srdjant> is adept bad?
[12:43] <josh__> i mean alsa
[12:43] <josh__> god i'm confusing everything today
[12:43] <josh__> whats the command for running adept
[12:46] <josh__> ok i can't find adept whats going on here
[12:46] <srdjant> alsa or adept? ;P
[12:47] <srdjant> sudo /usr/bin/adept
[12:47] <x311> wuusuup
[12:48] <josh__> it can't find adept
[12:48] <josh__> wtf is going on
[12:48] <srdjant> maybe it was uninstaled
[12:49] <josh__> ok how do i reinstall adept
[12:49] <misieq> what is the name of a program that could apply some info to wallpaper? and i don't mean superkaramba
[12:49] <RawSewage> image tags?
[12:50] <misieq> i think it actually changed the wallpaper and applied some text to it. the names started with t... tr... something like that
[12:50] <srdjant> josh__: sudo apt-get install adept    <--- maybe that will work
[12:50] <RawSewage> I think you can do that by right-clicking desktop
[12:50] <RawSewage> Configure
[12:51] <RawSewage> Advanced Options on the right
[12:51] <RawSewage> nm
[12:51] <RawSewage> disregard
[12:51] <kraut> hi
[12:51] <josh__> there we go
[12:51] <RawSewage> I was wrong
[12:51] <kraut> from special reasons i need to install kubuntu with the automatic partitionary tool but without swap, is that possible?
[12:51] <misieq> RawSewage: hmmm... haven't known that before. might be useful thanks anyway
[12:52] <RawSewage> I was wrong
[12:52] <misieq> why?
[12:54] <josh__> ok now i can't run system settings
[12:54] <srdjant> time for me to go to sleep. nite all
[12:54] <RawSewage> misieq, telak?
[12:55] <misieq> no, i don't think so...
[12:55] <RawSewage> ok
[12:56] <misieq> i might be wrong with this name...
[12:56] <josh__> m'k
[12:56] <josh__> now system settings isn't in my kmenu
[12:57] <josh__> my kicker is missing
[12:57] <RawSewage> do this
[12:57] <josh__> ok suse here i come
[12:57] <RawSewage> run kcontrol first
[12:58] <RawSewage> Desktop
[12:58] <RawSewage> Panels
[12:58] <RawSewage> Menus tab
[12:58] <RawSewage> check Settings
[12:59] <josh__> the specified library kicker could not be found
[12:59] <josh__> that CAN"T be good
[01:00] <ubuntu__> !xgl > ubuntu__
[01:00] <josh__> i have suse 10 disks right here
[01:00] <josh__> i think i'm gonna go install it now
[01:01] <RawSewage> did you even do anything I said
[01:02] <josh__> ya
[01:02] <RawSewage> alt+f2
[01:02] <RawSewage> kcontrol
[01:02] <RawSewage> doesnt work?
[01:02] <josh__> ya
[01:02] <josh__> alt f2 just says run command
[01:02] <RawSewage> then type kcontrol
[01:03] <josh__> could not run/
[01:03] <RawSewage> Then go to Desktop - Panels - Menus Tab
[01:03] <RawSewage> weird
[01:03] <josh__> ya i messed something up badly
[01:03] <RawSewage> maybe in a console try  sudo apt-get install kcontrol
[01:03] <josh__> ah
[01:05] <misieq> RawSewage: ahhh... tracked it down. here is screenie: http://img288.imageshack.us/img288/1687/screenshotoct059na.png but i still don't know the name
[01:06] <josh__> ok
[01:06] <misieq> (the thing on the lower right)
[01:07] <RawSewage> the CID thing
[01:07] <RawSewage> thats Kubuntu?
[01:08] <misieq> i don't think so
[01:08] <RawSewage> lol
[01:08] <RawSewage> that looks like Gentoo
[01:08] <RawSewage> I think youre in the wrong channel
[01:09] <misieq> i use kubuntu so i'm in the right channel. never mind the distro on the screenshot, i just try to identify this prog.
[01:09] <RawSewage> oh
[01:09] <josh__> whats that thing where you can have each desktop on one side of a cube
[01:09] <josh__> then u just spin it around
[01:09] <RawSewage> glx/compiz
[01:10] <josh__> is that a package?
[01:10] <RawSewage> misieq, oops.  I got you confused with josh__
[01:10] <misieq> RawSewage: have you tried that in kubuntu?
[01:10] <josh__> m'k
[01:10] <misieq> i mean glx?
[01:10] <RawSewage> glx/compiz was for josh__
[01:11] <misieq> i know, but i was asking if you tried that :)
[01:11] <RawSewage> misieq,  I dont know what you need for that
[01:11] <RawSewage> no
[01:11] <RawSewage> Oh
[01:11] <RawSewage> yes, Ive used compiz/xgl
[01:11] <misieq> and how did it work?
[01:11] <RawSewage> it ran nicely on my 2ghz 512 ram NVidia 4200
[01:12] <RawSewage> I think it requires Nvidia 4000+
[01:12] <RawSewage> everythign was full speed
[01:12] <misieq> i've used kororaa and i was overwhelmed by its performance on my axp1800+ 784mb gf2 mx 400 64mb
[01:13] <josh__> is glx/compiz a command or package or what
[01:13] <misieq> by the way... it's xgl not glx :]
[01:14] <misieq> !xgl
[01:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:14] <RawSewage> oh yeah
[01:15] <josh__> i installed compiz now what
[01:15] <RawSewage> um
[01:15] <misieq> !xgl > josh__
[01:15] <RawSewage> you have to follow 100 stpes
[01:16] <RawSewage> youll have to follow a tutorial to the letter
[01:16] <RawSewage> it's a pain to get working
[01:16] <misieq> josh__: or you can get suse or kororaa ;P
[01:16] <RawSewage> read the link misieq gave   http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez
[01:23] <RawSewage> misieq, so you want something that displays system info on the wallpaper, but doesnt use SK
[01:25] <snowdrift> hello, all
[01:26] <snowdrift> i am using kubuntu and xp (dual boot). i need to set xp as the default OS. whats the easiest way to do this?
[01:26] <Tokeiito> labanktis/good night
[01:26] <aliasfred> snowdrift: there is an option in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:26] <aliasfred> default=0
[01:27] <snowdrift> just edit the file manually?
[01:27] <aliasfred> but you replace 0 by the index of the boot you want
[01:27] <aliasfred> yep
[01:27] <snowdrift> that seems easy
[01:27] <aliasfred> kdedu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:27] <aliasfred> kdesu even
[01:27] <snowdrift> kdedu?
[01:27] <snowdrift> is that an editor
[01:28] <aliasfred> nope it is the think allowing you to edit this file as superuser
[01:28] <snowdrift> i have a few things to learn
[01:28] <snowdrift> hahah
[01:28] <aliasfred> kate is the editor
[01:28] <aliasfred> :)
[01:29] <snowdrift> OK
[01:29] <snowdrift> I went to Run Command
[01:29] <snowdrift> and pasted it.
[01:29] <snowdrift> I got some error about "Could not run the specified command."
[01:29] <aliasfred> put that in a terminal
[01:30] <snowdrift> "command not found"
[01:30] <snowdrift> ... from Konsole.
[01:30] <aliasfred> ah ok :)
[01:30] <aliasfred> i rectified the kdedu by kdesu
[01:30] <snowdrift> ok
[01:30] <snowdrift> hold on
[01:30] <internat> ok i have a wierd error whenever i open kaffeine and then try to open my dvb card it logs me out and takes me back to the kubuntu login screen
[01:31] <aliasfred> internat: doesnt seem good :)
[01:31] <misieq> RawSewage: i know!
[01:31] <Ballistik> Are there any good SNES emulators for linux?
[01:31] <misieq> it's torsmo! :)
[01:31] <internat> obviously.. any suggestions of where to go etc?
[01:32] <aliasfred> internat: hmm i would talk to kaffeine people about it
[01:32] <aliasfred> some seem to be at #kaffeine
[01:33] <misieq> finally tracked it down... now i only have to find a config i want :) oh, and there;s also conky that seems to be what a superkaramba is to karamba
[01:38] <doppelganger__> hey, is there a straight out mute button somewhere in kubuntu?
[01:38] <doppelganger__> i'm looking in kmix and don't see it anywhere
[01:38] <internat> http://pastebin.com/775321 <== thats whats in the xorg log when it happens
[01:38] <internat> yeah the green light is clickable
[01:39] <obf213> hey my frostwire doesnt work anymore it says i need to upgrade to a new version (which I have) i remember last time i had to choose which java i wanted to you does anyone know how i get there
[01:39] <doppelganger__> nvm, i see, you can right click the icon and mute it
[01:40] <doppelganger__> blasted subwoofer must be out  ;(
[01:40] <doppelganger__> worked fine before i unplugged it today before a storm hit
[01:40] <doppelganger__> must run windows =\
[01:40] <bbeck_> join #apache
[01:41] <ootput> hi guys, i have the kubuntu 6.06 installation cd. After hearing about the error with the latest xorg patch, i became a bit concerned about the installation. If i were to use the installation cd, and then use the patch-system, would I be stuck as well?
[01:43] <obf213> anyone know how i selcted with java jre i want my computer to use
[01:43] <apexified> Argh, I upgraded my kernel through apt-get (on my laptop) and it stopped detecting the built in wireless modem... how can I revert back?
[01:43] <ryan_> ive got 4 hdd one has my os on it and i have movies and things like that on the others i cant access them.....i keep getting the error "Could not mount device. The reported erroe was: mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab how do i fix this
[01:44] <oalles> can i install digikam in UBuntu as a debian package?
[01:44] <doppelganger__> ryan- goto system settings > disks and filesystems
[01:44] <doppelganger__> and check it out
[01:44] <snowdrift> is there something like roboform for linux?
[01:46] <obf213> !ubout
[01:46] <obf213> !java
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubout - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:47] <bbeck_> snowdrift: I don't know roboform, but perhaps you might look at kwallet if you haven't already.
[01:47] <internat> somehow ive managed to break sound, im not sure how, but i have no sound anywhere, now it is apparently not muted. ive checked and yeah
[01:47] <internat> any ideas on how to fix it oratleast return it back to default settings
[01:47] <obf213> yo anyone know how i can selcted which java to use
[01:53] <internat> ok correction, trying to play any media file in any program results in x crashing
[01:53] <linuxkid2> Anyone know anything about XDMCP?
[01:56] <aliasfred> internat: smell like a bug in the video driver
[01:56] <aliasfred> linuxkid2: no, what is it ?
[01:56] <internat> it was working yesterday
[01:57] <linuxkid2> aliasfred: XDMCP is a way of logging into a remote computer using an X server and the X protocol.
[01:57] <linuxkid2> !XDMCP
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about XDMCP - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <aliasfred> internat: so find out what you did since yesterday
[01:58] <snowdrift> how do minimize all windows in kubuntu to get back to the plain desktop?
[01:58] <aliasfred> linuxkid2: hmm usually people use either vnc or nx for that
[01:58] <misieq> snowdrift: you can add "desktop" aplet to kicker
[01:58] <linuxkid2> snowdrift: add the "show desktop" applet to the panel.
[01:58] <snowdrift> kicker?
[01:58] <linuxkid2> misieq: you beat me.
[01:58] <snowdrift> is that the system tray?
[01:58] <snowdrift> ;-)
[01:59] <misieq> yah, it's the panel
[01:59] <linuxkid2> the panel on the bottom, toolbar.
[01:59] <D4rkly> anyone want to help me install or build darwin streaming server
[01:59] <misieq> yet again ;P
[01:59] <linuxkid2> Kicker's the program, panel is what it is.
[01:59] <snowdrift> oh so much to learn
[01:59] <snowdrift> jesus
[01:59] <snowdrift> i feel like a child again
[01:59] <internat> obviously im trying but im not sure what it is that i have done
[01:59] <linuxkid2> it's ok.
[02:00] <misieq> being a child is cool, i can tell ;)
[02:00] <linuxkid2> aliasfred: I tried VNC but don't like it. I'm just trying to turn a windoze machine on the lan into another terminal, using X
[02:00] <internat> *sighs* looks like im going to copy my apt archive out again, and reinstall
[02:01] <obf213> i need help getting frostwire to open
[02:01] <linuxkid2> internat: what card, monitor, and driver yah got?
[02:01] <aliasfred> linuxkid2: i think there are nx client for window. nx is much faster that vnc
[02:01] <misieq> what's the deal with vnc/x? fill me in...
[02:01] <snowdrift> why dont you just use windows remote terminal over openssh?
[02:01] <internat> umm radeon 9600, lg lcd 17" and fglrx
[02:01] <snowdrift> thats what i do from work
[02:01] <obf213> it used to open after i changed to java choice 3, but now it doesnt open anymore
[02:01] <linuxkid2> aliasfred: I don't mind VNC's speed. It just takes over the display instead of getting to KDM login screen when I start, which is what I want.
[02:02] <snowdrift> reduce the colors u use
[02:02] <linuxkid2> aliasfred: does NX work the way I want?
[02:02] <snowdrift> and turn off all animation
[02:02] <aliasfred> linuxkid2: hmm i think it launch a new X server, so i would say no
[02:03] <jbirdAngel> Hello, im wondering how big an impact the MHz of a proccessor would have, like how big a difference would be between a 500 mhz, a 1 gig,  and a 1.5?
[02:03] <linuxkid2> aliasfred: actually, that might work. I was trying to connect Xming over the network, so only clients run on the connected machine.
[02:03] <ryan_> how do i change the premissions of a harddisk
[02:04] <linuxkid2> jbirdAngel: I have 450mhz but it runs so slow occasionally that I want to switch to Xubuntu.
[02:04] <linuxkid2> ryan_: I think that's in /etc/fstab
[02:04] <jbirdAngel> linuxkid2: okay thanks, what kind of progs do you run
[02:04] <snowdrift> where does firefox install by default?
[02:04] <snowdrift> ;-)
[02:05] <snowdrift> any why isnt there a shortcut on the start bar?
[02:05] <linuxkid2> jbirdAngel: I have OpenOffice, but KOffice for small stuff cause it's faster. Same with Firefox and Konqueror. The native KDE stuff is always faster.
[02:06] <linuxkid2> snowdrift: you want to map the Windows key to the KMenu right? I was wondering too.
[02:06] <linuxkid2> I don't know how, does anyone else?
[02:09] <ryan_> linuxkid2: all that did was give me that information on the mounts....im a nob and im trying to mount a drive but everything i try i dont have premission to open it
[02:09] <ryan_> linuxkid2: all that did was give me that information on the mounts....im a nob and im trying to mount a drive but everything i try i dont have premission to open it
[02:11] <jbirdAngel> luxkid2 okay thanks what about trying like gimp and inkscape ?
[02:11] <jbirdAngel> do you know how those work
[02:13] <linuxkid2> jbirdAngel: Gimp and Inkscape work but not if I try loading a huge 20megapixel TIFF or something like that. Inkscape comes on Puppy for heavens sake and is very fst.
[02:13] <jbirdAngel> linuxkid2: okay thanks
[02:13] <jbirdAngel> though i dont know what you said about inkscape means
[02:14] <linuxkid2> jbirdAngel: Inkscape comes with Puppy, the tiny fast distro for old hardware. It's fast.
[02:15] <jbirdAngel> oh okay thanks
[02:20] <A|i3N> hey - trying to compile something (nmap security scanner) I
[02:20] <A|i3N> I'm getting "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"
[02:20] <A|i3N> so ........... what do i needa grab from the repository hehe
[02:20] <shawnc> I have a simple question (I think)
[02:21] <shawnc> I need the source code for the 606 kernel - apparently I don't have it
[02:21] <aliasfred> !build
[02:21] <Hawkwind> A|i3N: Install build-essential
[02:21] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:21] <aliasfred> and nmap is likely to be available as pacakge:)
[02:22] <A|i3N> well it is available as an RPM - does kubuntu have an rpm manager?
[02:22] <shawnc> thx
[02:24] <Hawkwind> A|i3N: Kubuntu uses deb files since it's debian based
[02:24] <A|i3N> ah ok. Thanks
[02:25] <Hawkwind> A|i3N: sudo apt-get install nmap  will install it for you
[02:26] <A|i3N> already installing the compiler but I guess I can get it that way - probably be easier. Then I guess I need to get the front end too hehe
[02:26] <A|i3N> need the compiler anyways I'm sure. :)
[02:27] <DaSkreech> try adept :-)
[02:32] <A|i3N> Hawkwind - which front end do I want to specify in apt-get for nmap?
[02:33] <A|i3N> there's two listed in Adept
[02:33] <ryan_> im having problems trying to mount a ntfs drive....if some one could help me or point me to a nob friendly tutorial
[02:34] <omeow> Hi, can I start a new windowed session in kubuntu?
[02:35] <Hawkwind> omeow: What do you mean exactly ?
[02:35] <Hawkwind> A|i3N: Just get them both :P
[02:35] <Martijn81> ryan_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[02:35] <A|i3N> lol ok
[02:36] <ryan_> thanks martijin81
[02:36] <A|i3N> thank you Hawkwind. I'm very new to this :) I'm a newly converted windows man ;)
[02:36] <Hawkwind> A|i3N: sudo apt-get install nmap would have done everything for you
[02:37] <Martijn81> ryan_: if you scroll some down you see howto automaticly mount ntfs, but keep in mind that writing to ntfs is not working
[02:37] <A|i3N> oh ok - well that's what I did but how do I launch it with the front end? it made no icon
[02:38] <draik> Hello everyone
[02:38] <omeow> Hawkwind, you can click on K=> Switch user => Start new session, but I'd like to know if it's possible to window a new session.
[02:38] <draik> What are the odds that a motherboard short circuits while you're using it?
[02:39] <draik> Cuz I am that 1 in a #
[02:39] <drgonzo> hello all
[02:39] <draik> hello drgonzo
[02:39] <drgonzo> can someone point me to a howto on setting up bogofilter with kmail?
[02:39] <A|i3N> draik, the odds could be pretty good lol, that's usually when they break, while they're on :)
[02:39] <draik> true
[02:40] <draik> Here's another... it's a hateway
[02:40] <A|i3N> i'm sorry.
[02:40] <draik> so am I
[02:40] <A|i3N> well the good news is you should be able to replace it with a generic board.
[02:40] <draik> I was working on it
[02:40] <draik> that leads me to my question...
[02:41] <draik> where can I find a motherboard that supports Celeron 2.0GHz and PC2100 RAM?
[02:41] <draik> Dunno how many pins on the processor
[02:41] <A|i3N> try www.pricewatch.com
[02:41] <draik> thank you A|i3N
[02:41] <A|i3N> or www.newegg.com
[02:41] <A|i3N> you can find just about anything on those two
[02:42] <grayghost> Is there an apt-get command I can use to get kdevelopment?
[02:42] <A|i3N> pricewatch is great though just be careful who you're buying from, it's kinda like ebay and each vendor has feedback
[02:42] <A|i3N> it's not an auction site though. :)
[02:42] <ryan_> martijin81: i have music and movies on the drive is there any way i can convert the file system without loosing the data
[02:42] <drgonzo> I've installed bogofilter and run the wizard in kmail, but I would like to train it etc
[02:43] <draik> A|i3N, how's this for my personal monitor?  http://www.matrox.com/mga/media_center/press_rel/2006/extio_f1400.cfm
[02:43] <Hawkwind> grayghost: sudo apt-get install kdevelop3
[02:43] <Hawkwind> !info kdevelop3
[02:43] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[02:45] <draik> or maybe just this one... http://www.matrox.com/graphics/offhome/th2go/home.cfm
[02:45] <omeow> How do I make a screenshot of kdm?
[02:46] <A|i3N> i really can't tell ya much about monitors personally
[02:46] <A|i3N> that's pretty dang cool though lol
[02:48] <Hawkwind> draik: I doubt that would work with Linux though :(
[02:49] <jbirdAngel> im gonna go
[02:49] <jbirdAngel>  9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. - 1 John 1:9 KJV
[02:49] <jbirdAngel> bye now
[02:49] <A|i3N> *decided he doesn't like nmap and removes it* lol
[02:50] <A|i3N> Hey.. if I installed something... and I want to remove it.. like Internet explorer running on wine... is it just a matter of deleting the directory?
[02:50] <A|i3N> or do i needa follow the proper removal proceedure like in windows
[02:50] <Hawkwind> Ask the experts in #WineHQ
[02:50] <draik> A|i3N, how do I find out the pin-type of a 2.0GHz Intel Celeron?
[02:51] <A|i3N> lemme look
[02:51] <A|i3N> i've been outta the repair business for a while
[02:52] <grayghost> I have tried the command  sudo apt-get install kdevelop     .... and get message not available   .... help.
[02:52] <Hawkwind> grayghost: I told you the command to use:  sudo apt-get install kdevelop3   It has to have the 3 at the end
[02:52] <grayghost> that did not work either.
[02:53] <Hawkwind> grayghost: You also need to make sure you have the universe repo setup
[02:53] <Hawkwind> !repos > grayghost
[02:53] <Hawkwind> Follow what the bot just told you in pm then
[02:53] <A|i3N> draik: should be socket 478
[02:53] <draik> sure?
[02:53] <draik> right you are
[02:53] <draik> A|i3N, correct
[02:53] <draik> sorry, no prize
[02:54] <A|i3N> why for is the java on the pricewatch page freezing the browser.. heh..
[02:54] <grayghost> universe prpos ???
[02:55] <Hawkwind> grayghost: Please read what the bot told you in PM
[02:55] <linuxkid2_> How do I enable OpenSSH?
[02:55] <A|i3N> draik what kind of RAM do you have again?
[02:55] <Hawkwind> linuxkid2_: sudo apt-get install ssh
[02:55] <grayghost> thanks I will give up now
[02:55] <yeager_> test
[02:55] <Hawkwind> yeager_: Failed!
[02:55] <linuxkid2_> k
[02:55] <Hawkwind> grayghost: Give up ?
[02:55] <A|i3N> draik: here's the site for the 478 boards on pricewatch http://www.pricewatch.com/motherboards/263725-1.htm
[02:55] <ryan_> how do i format a drive
[02:56] <otis> hello all
[02:56] <linuxkid2_> Hawkwind: is that the daemon? or the client and daemon?
[02:56] <Hawkwind> linuxkid2_: Both.  When you install it, it will start it for you automatically
[02:56] <linuxkid2_> k
[02:56] <draik> PC2100 RAM
[02:56] <draik> PC2100U
[02:58] <draik> A|i3N, PC2100, DDR 184-pin
[02:58] <A|i3N> draik: http://www.servercase.com/miva/miva?/Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SC&Product_Code=P8F176&Category_Code=Motherboards
[02:58] <garret> Is there a newer version of shockwave than 7 out, many web pages want version 9?
[02:58] <A|i3N> that board should work for you
[02:58] <Hawkwind> garret: No
[02:58] <otis> not yet
[02:59] <Hawkwind> garret: Flash 9 won't be available for linux until after the first of the year
[02:59] <garret> Hawkwind: shame :(
[02:59] <A|i3N> supports 2100, and socket 478 processors up to 3.x ghz
[02:59] <A|i3N> BUT it's mini-itx - not sure that'll fit the case so ... be careful... hehe..
[03:00] <garret> Does anyone know of a good place to buy "white box" laptops at a good price?
[03:00] <A|i3N> actually, looking at it, it has no expansion slots.. nevermind.. scratch that one..
[03:04] <shane_> hey I installed nvidia drivers how do I know I have 3D support? Is there a command to get some info?
[03:04] <Hawkwind> glxinfo | grep render
[03:05] <shane_> direct rendering yes OpenGL renderer string: GeForce4 MX 4000/AGP/SSE/3DNOW!
[03:06] <otaku-san> hey got a Krita question... does anyone know the channel?
[03:06] <otaku-san> Thinking about going to the Gimp....
[03:07] <otaku-san> !DaSkreech
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about DaSkreech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <DaSkreech> Damn Skippy. Keep big Brother out of my stuff!!
[03:08] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: whoa man!  whats that all up for?
[03:09] <linuxkid2_> I got these errors when trying to run an aptitude installation. Installation worked, but this just seems wrong. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21606
[03:10] <lanius> howto login with xdmcp and kdm?
[03:10] <A|i3N> ok ...   Sorry man....was just checking something...not about you...I was trying that thing where it finds where they are in the channels...Jeez gave me a hard attack
[03:15] <vblanton> NickGarvey:
[03:15] <A|i3N> thanx :)
[03:16] <Ballistik> Are there any good SNES emulators for linux?
[03:16] <vblanton> hell yes
[03:16] <vblanton> snes9x is one
[03:16] <A|i3N> GOD i love linux.. i want software.. go to adept, search for it, boom, i got software.. lol..
[03:16] <A|i3N> much easier then windows now that i think about it.
[03:16] <vblanton> A|i3N: it's awesome :)
[03:17] <A|i3N> still figuring it out, it's kinda like learning DOS again but hey i can learn.
[03:17] <vblanton> Ballistik: look in Add/Remove for zsnes, snes9express, or GSnes9x (just search for snes)
[03:17] <lanius> xdmcp login dont work, can you help me?
[03:18] <vblanton> xdmcp is it enables on both ends?
[03:18] <lanius> yes
[03:18] <vblanton> Hmm.. kdm or gdm?
[03:18] <lanius> kdm
[03:19] <Zaphar_ps> I always had better success using GDM for xdmcp
[03:19] <Zaphar_ps> the setup seemed easier to me
[03:19] <vblanton> Sorry, I haven't actually ever used it. The one time I messed around with it it *just worked*.
[03:19] <Ballistik> vblanton: Thanks
[03:19] <linuxkid2_> GDM has a graphical XDMCP setup, kdm must be done with text files.
[03:19] <linuxkid2_> I think
[03:19] <simon__> hi guys quick question ive just put together a Pentium D system which version of Ubuntu do i get power pc 64 or alternative 64 or desktop 64?
[03:19] <vblanton> try searching on the wiki/forums for xdmcp
[03:20] <lanius> done... :)
[03:20] <vblanton> simon__: Pentium D isn't 64 bit, is it?
[03:20] <simon__> yep
[03:20] <linuxkid2_> vblanton: how about windows Cygwin connect XDMCP to Kubuntu
[03:20] <linuxkid2_> ?
[03:20] <vblanton> simon__: well then I would try the desktop 64
[03:21] <vblanton> simon__: powerpc is only for mac's. they use the PPC architecture. alternative is for OEM setups.
[03:21] <vblanton> linuxkid2_: dunno, never trie
[03:21] <vblanton> d
[03:21] <linuxkid2_> oh, well, gotta look elsewhere then. It's what I want to use but everyone says here to use something else.
[03:22] <vblanton> lanius: see if anyone in ubuntu has done it, also try gdm, if you have no luck. Sorry I can't help :(
[03:22] <Zaphar_ps> linuxkid2_: I always used vnc to connect with xdmcp to my linux box
[03:22] <simon__> cool thanks for that
[03:22] <Zaphar_ps> why are you wanting to use cygwin
[03:22] <Zaphar_ps> never mind he left
[03:23] <vblanton> cygwin wouldn't work for that.. I don't tink
[03:23] <vblanton> I would use a virtual system within windows if he wanted that.
[03:23] <simon__> whats the dif between altenative and desktop then, is desktop more fully featured?
[03:23] <vblanton> anyone know why the fonts are messed up when I upgrade to kde 3.5.4?
[03:23] <vblanton> and/or how to fix it?
[03:24] <Zaphar_ps> vblanton: theoretically it would work but it's more work than just a VNC connection
[03:24] <vblanton> right
[03:24] <ryan_> what would be the easest way to use my ntfs hard drives
[03:24] <vblanton> *theoretically*
[03:24] <vblanton> ryan_: there is a guide online.. let me get the link..
[03:25] <ryan_> vblaton...thanks
[03:25] <linuxkid2> I STILL want XDMCP. Using X over SSH but XDMCP would be faster. Using 100Mbps LAN so don't need NX
[03:26] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: You mean whois?
[03:26] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: Yeah....sorry for doing that again
[03:26] <DaSkreech> Yeah I was just ramping with the Overlords :)
[03:27] <Zaphar_ps> linuxkid2: VNC will connect to xdmcp when configured right on the host machine It's significanly easier than ssh or cygwin
[03:27] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: Overlords?????
[03:27] <Zaphar_ps> and fairly snappy too
[03:27] <DaSkreech> :-)
[03:27] <vblanton> ryan_: http://www.lifehacker.com/software/top/hack-attack-top-10-ubuntu-apps-and-tweaks-195437.php
[03:27] <vblanton> ryan_: scroll down to read/write NTFS support
[03:28] <ryan_> vblanton: thanks
[03:28] <vblanton> np
[03:29] <linuxkid2> Zaphar_ps: how do I do that? when I use KDE's VNC stuff, it just kind of takes over the current user, instead of loging in on a new terminal in the background.
[03:29] <lanius> "udp6       0      0 :::177                  :::* " .............udp6 ?
[03:30] <vblanton> lanius: nice
[03:30] <Zaphar_ps> linuxkid2: one sec I'll get the link for a setup instructions
[03:30] <vblanton> lanius: informative
[03:30] <linuxkid2> thanks
[03:30] <vblanton> lanius: profound
[03:30] <lanius> what is udp6??
[03:32] <vblanton> dunnoo
[03:33] <vblanton> bye bye everybody
[03:33] <simon__> whats the dif between altenative and desktop then, is desktop more fully featured?   sorry to be a pain
[03:33] <otaku-san> hey if I were to put in "gimp" for an sudo apt-get install....would The Gimp be installed....just checking cuz' it looks like it wants to just install a bunch of packs
[03:33] <linuxkid2> desktop has the liveCD and that, but alternative has more install options
[03:34] <Jucato> otaku-san: yes
[03:34] <linuxkid2> otaku-san: gimp needs a milliion dependancies. but just "gimp" gets you the stuff.
[03:34] <Jucato> well, not a million... just a hundred :-D
[03:34] <Jucato> ^_^
[03:34] <linuxkid2> not much diff
[03:34] <otaku-san> heheh I figured...remembers some odd forum entry saying this...thanks
[03:35] <Jucato> otaku-san: I think you have to install the gimp-help package(s) separately
[03:36] <linuxkid2> Maybe, check packages.ubuntu.com
[03:37] <otaku-san> Jucato: ahhh...ok I'll put that in after this install and see if it does anything
[03:37] <SeanTater> lanius: ipv6--udp ?
[03:37] <vblanton> simon__: alternative is for OEM installs.. like replicating the same install on multiple machines. or for doing a system update. don't use it normally.
[03:37] <Zaphar_ps> hrmmm I couldn't find my original link for some reason but this one should be applicable
[03:37] <Zaphar_ps> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191564&highlight=vnc+gnome
[03:38] <otaku-san> Jucato: I wanted to change cause Krita is responding to my pen real slow...and I have stuff on getting Gimp to work.
[03:38] <linuxkid2> thanks
[03:39] <DaSkreech> otaku-san: Hang around the paranoid long enough and you'll catch on
[03:39] <simon__> thanks guys for the tips :)
[03:41] <internat> since ihave more then one sound card in my computer how do i set what the default one is>
[03:41] <otaku-san> DaSkreech: Hahaha!  I'll try
[03:41] <crimsun> internat: asoundconf set-default-card
[03:42] <crimsun> internat: use the output from asoundconf list
[03:42] <internat> err what if it says it doesnt find any cards?
[03:42] <internat> yet kmix does?
[03:42] <GameOver69> hey guys i cant install libtunepimp3-mp3... this is the error i get any idea how i can fix it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21607
[03:42] <crimsun> ``asoundconf list'' says it can't find anything?
[03:43] <internat> yeah it says names of available ccards: and then has nothing
[03:44] <Zaphar_ps> crimsun: have you tried uninstalling libtunepimp3?
[03:44] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, yes
[03:44] <otaku-san> Jucato: gimp-help-en
[03:44] <GameOver69> but it wont install without that file... and it installs that file first
[03:44] <Zaphar_ps> ehhh whoops wrong nick :-)
[03:44] <Jucato> otaku-san: yep, if you want the english docs :-D
[03:45] <crimsun> Zaphar_ps: eh?
[03:45] <crimsun> internat: what does /proc/asound/cards list?
[03:45] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69: looks like maybe a package bug look on the buglist and see if it has any bugs associated with.
[03:45] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, any idea on how i can get this working... cause without it i cant get musicbrainz working
[03:45] <linuxkid2> Zaphar_ps: this is for GDM. Instructions for GDM don't work withe kdm
[03:46] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69 have you run an update?
[03:46] <GameOver69> yes
[03:46] <alex_> hi
[03:46] <Zaphar_ps> linuxkid2: in a pinch you could install gdm instead of kdm both will work with kde
[03:47] <Zaphar_ps> and actually I kind of prefer gdm myself :-)
[03:47] <alex_> I am trying to copy something to /usr/share/Wallpapers
[03:47] <alex_> but I am being denied access
[03:47] <alex_> what gives?
[03:47] <Zaphar_ps> alex_: use sudo?
[03:47] <saltro> kubuntu spain ?
[03:47] <internat> 1 sec its just rebooting ill check
[03:47] <Jucato> !sudo
[03:47] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:47] <GameOver69> i also get this error everytime i update/install a package in show details of adept http://pastebin.com/775382
[03:47] <Jucato> !es
[03:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:47] <saltro> please
[03:47] <GameOver69> but it still installs stuff
[03:47] <saltro> god thanks
[03:48] <alex_> Zaphar_ps: I added the sudo modification so that I am not asked for it everytime
[03:48] <linuxkid2> Zaphar_ps: well, I don't really prefer either. but I don't want to hack my system that hard for something that should be simple and part of how the system works.
[03:49] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69: that error can be ignored if you want to fix it you can install the debconf kde stuff
[03:49] <alex_> either way, permission is denied even with sudo
[03:50] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, i have those packages installed though
[03:50] <internat> i have 3 cards in proc/asound/cards
[03:50] <GameOver69> debconf, debutils, etc
[03:50] <internat> the built in card (which has been disabled in the bios yet still shows up) the pci card (which i want) and the audio out on the tv card
[03:50] <Ash-Fox> !ati
[03:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:50] <otaku-san> Jucato: Yeah!  heheh
[03:51] <alex_> Zaphar_ps: permission is denied nevertheless
[03:51] <Zaphar_ps> alex
[03:51] <Zaphar_ps> alex_: can you run sudo su?
[03:51] <Zaphar_ps> and then see who owns the folder?
[03:52] <alex_> Zaphar_ps: it worked
[03:53] <alex_> Zaphar_ps: But how do I prevent this from happening, I want unrestricted access to everything without typing my password
[03:53] <otaku-san> Jucato: wow....is Gimp a culture shock for me or what....I normally use PS on windoze...then Krita which is like PaintShop Pro....then this....whatever it is ;)
[03:53] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, what do i do if i have those files installed?
[03:54] <Jucato> otaku-san: the GIMP is... unique :-D
[03:54] <otaku-san> Jucato: in true Linux fashion
[03:54] <Zaphar_ps> alex_: I don't know I've never done the sudo mod your talking about
[03:54] <linuxkid2> otaku-san I like it. I've used it on windows for about 6 months and now it's what I use.
[03:54] <Jucato> otaku-san: you might want to try the GIMPshop. it behaves more like Photoshop. I just don't know where to get it/how to install it. it's not in the repos
[03:54] <alex_> Zaphar_ps: ok, thanks anyway
[03:54] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69: I'm not sure it looks like you may have a corrupted package db
[03:55] <Zaphar_ps> can you run aptitude?
[03:55] <otaku-san> Jucato: have you used it?
[03:55] <GameOver69> whats that?
[03:55] <Jucato> nope
[03:55] <linuxkid2> yeah, I tried running GIMPShop on windows once, but it kind of didn't like my normal GIMP
[03:55] <Jucato> I prefer to learn GIMP, the hard way :-D
[03:55] <GameOver69> whatever it is im running it now
[03:55] <linuxkid2> Yeah, the main thing that GIMPShop has is one window and more normal menus.
[03:55] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69: its a command line package manager
[03:56] <Jucato> hi Hobbsee ^_^
[03:56] <otaku-san> linuxkid2: yeah I've heard good things about it...where did you get GIMPShop?
[03:56] <Zaphar_ps> see if you can run it in a terminal by typing sudo aptitude
[03:56] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, its up and loaded all of the cache
[03:56] <GameOver69> now what
[03:56] <Zaphar_ps> does it have anything at the top about broken packages?
[03:56] <otaku-san> Jucato: I think I'll try the Manual....I learned PS the hard way....not fun
[03:57] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, no
[03:57] <Zaphar_ps> hit /
[03:57] <Jucato> otaku-san: one thing that's good about the GIMP is that there are a lot of guides for it. A quick Google search will be fruitful
[03:57] <GameOver69> ok and search for what
[03:57] <Zaphar_ps> and then type the name of the package your trying to install in the box and hit enter
[03:57] <Zaphar_ps> it should take you directly to it
[03:58] <linuxkid2> gimp-print works great with Epson inkjets
[03:58] <Zaphar_ps> hit the + key to mark it for install
[03:58] <Zaphar_ps> and then look to see if it has anything about broken packages at the top again
[03:59] <otaku-san> Jucato: ok, but first thing I want to learn from you is......Where is the main canvas!??!!?!  All I have are two windows with just the stuff like brushes and things....
[03:59] <oslo> how change the logon screen aspect ratio ??
[03:59] <Jucato> otaku-san: it will open in a separate window :-D
[03:59] <linuxkid2> file=>new something like that
[03:59] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, i dont see it saying anythign
[03:59] <Zaphar_ps> otaku-san: choose file->new
[04:00] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69: hit g to install and see if it lets you do it
[04:00] <linuxkid2> where can I get midnight commander?
[04:00] <otaku-san> Ahh figured that out just as you wrote back
[04:00] <Jucato> lol
[04:00] <Zaphar_ps> you may have to hit it more than once
[04:00] <otaku-san> Thanks guys
[04:00] <Jucato> otaku-san: I think the GIMP resembles what Photoshop looks like on a Mac
[04:00] <Jucato> I mean the interface/windows
[04:01] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, shows me a list of  packages being deleted due to unsatisfied dependencies
[04:01] <otaku-san> Jucato: I think your right....blame those blaphemous Mac users for doing the abnormal...or maybe it's us Linux users who do that?
[04:02] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69: are any of them the packages you had trouble with?
[04:02] <SpAwN> theres actualy a hack of gimp called photogimp thats supposed to be more lik ephotoshop
[04:02] <linuxkid2> is midnight commander or some other CLI file manager available?
[04:02] <GameOver69> just the debconf
[04:02] <GameOver69> but the libtunepimp still wont install
[04:02] <otaku-san> Jucato: no offence to Mac users....if I had a Mac...ohhhh the possibilitys *starts dreaming of having to boxes...one a mac...the other linux
[04:03] <Jucato> lol
[04:03] <Jucato> otaku-san: I might actually one of the very few who actually like the GIMP's interface :-D
[04:03] <linuxkid2> Very customizable, I say. That's the only reason I like it.
[04:03] <Jucato> thanks to window shading (Windows doesn't have this, right?) it's not so difficult to keep it uncluttered
[04:03] <linuxkid2> If I had to stay with the defualts, ohh :-(
[04:04] <GameOver69> Zaphar_ps, could it be a problem iwht the os... i just upgraded to edgy?
[04:04] <linuxkid2> hey, I have this neat little util that shades windows in Windows.
[04:04] <Zaphar_ps> GameOver69: well that's the limit of what I can recommend if you contact the package maintainer he might be able to give some insight
[04:04] <Zaphar_ps> if you just upgraded to edgy it's probably a bug
[04:05] <Zaphar_ps> edgy is still pretty unstable
[04:05] <otaku-san> Jucato: heheh I just might start liking it too...I've always loved the different.  And it looks pretty sweet.
[04:05] <GameOver69> yeah i know... but i always like the enwest sutff :)
[04:05] <Nerevar> hello... i downloaded kubuntu 6.06 dvd iso, and i have a question
[04:06] <Nerevar> i need to install linuxant for my linksys wireless g card
[04:06] <Jucato> otaku-san: the names of the tools and the keyboard shortcut just get a bit of getting used to. and the layers...
[04:06] <Nerevar> i go to the page and am presented with these options:
[04:06] <Nerevar> https://www.linuxant.com/driverloader/wlan/full/downloads-ubuntu-x86.php
[04:06] <Zaphar_ps> otaku-san: I always liked Gimp
[04:06] <Nerevar> as i cannot access the internet without the wireless card, i would like to know which i will need in advance
[04:06] <linuxkid2> Is there a file manager that acts like Aptitude?
[04:06] <Zaphar_ps> otaku-san: you might check out cinepaint too if you  like higher color ranges
[04:07] <otaku-san> Jucato: can it change to CMYB?
[04:07] <Jucato> CMYK?
[04:07] <linuxkid2> otaku-san: that's CMYK, B means Blue
[04:07] <otaku-san> k.....sorry...brain on slow....
[04:07] <otaku-san> k I meant k
[04:08] <Nerevar> can someone tell me what kernel version will install with that dvd download? thanks.
[04:08] <Jucato> one thing the GIMP still lacks is native CMYK support... there are plugins though...
[04:08] <Zaphar_ps> I see Xara has released a functional version of Xara Xstream for linux :-)
[04:08] <Zaphar_ps> yippee
[04:08] <DaSkreech> Zaphar_ps: Open source?
[04:08] <Zaphar_ps> DaSkreech: yes
[04:08] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yeah
[04:08] <linuxkid2> Heck, half of GIMP's functionality is either plug-ins or script-fu
[04:08] <Jucato> Xara LX
[04:08] <Zaphar_ps> I'm using it now and it's pretty sweet
[04:08] <otaku-san> Jucato: ok I'm getting those....I'll probably need to go through it and do alot of plugins....
[04:09] <Zaphar_ps> bit of a learning curve though
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Seriously?
[04:09] <Jucato> linuxkid2: but something as basic as RGB and CMYK should be built-in
[04:09] <DaSkreech> Was Xara always open source?
[04:09] <Jucato> DaSkreech: yes
[04:09] <linuxkid2> yes, true
[04:09] <Jucato> DaSkreech: no
[04:09] <Nerevar> ok. thanks. ill just download all of these and see what happens.
[04:09] <Jucato> not always
[04:09] <Jucato> it was just recent
[04:09] <Jucato> a few months ago
[04:09] <Zaphar_ps> DaSkreech: no they just recently went open source
[04:09] <otaku-san> Jucato: I'll install Inkscape later....right now I'm getting off
[04:09] <otaku-san> See ya
[04:09] <Zaphar_ps> first a library and now the whole app
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Zaphar_ps: They are walking the blender path?
[04:10] <Jucato> but Xara is a different kind of graphics app. It's a vector graphics app. Much like Inkscape
[04:10] <Zaphar_ps> DaSkreech: perhaps
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Hmm Schweet
[04:10] <Zaphar_ps> the windows version is still commercial though no OSS
[04:10] <Zaphar_ps> but who knows what they'll do
[04:10] <linuxkid2> I like inkscape actually. It's forte is drawings and logos and stuff. web standards too.
[04:11] <Jucato> or anything SVG/vector graphics
[04:11] <Zaphar_ps> Xara is more for professional design like Illustrator.
[04:11] <linuxkid2> well, I can't get OOo Draw to do SVG. Is Xara SVG?
[04:11] <Jucato> I'm still trying to get familiar with how to do colors in vector graphics
[04:11] <Zaphar_ps> Xara will export svg yes
[04:12] <Zaphar_ps> and import too
[04:12] <linuxkid2> I may try it.
[04:12] <Jucato> SVG is a file format...
[04:12] <linuxkid2> is it the multiverse repo?
[04:12] <Jucato> DaSkreech: for your reading pleasure: http://www.xaraxtreme.org/
[04:12] <Zaphar_ps> no you have to download from the website
[04:12] <Zaphar_ps> no debian package as of yet I don't think
[04:12] <Jucato> oh, it's no longer called Xara LX. it's Xara Xtreme for Linux
[04:13] <alex_> I downloaded some themes from kde-look.org
[04:13] <Jucato> seems like there's a .tar.gz download and an Autopackage installer
[04:13] <linuxkid2> is it a cooking with linux five step? or some kind of binary package or AutoPackage?
[04:13] <edgarin> Hi to all
[04:13] <alex_> the files have the .deb extension
[04:13] <alex_> how do I install them?
[04:13] <Zaphar_ps> Jucato: use the autopackage one it's easier
[04:13] <linuxkid2> oh, there's my answer
[04:13] <Jucato> alex_: this link is for you
[04:14] <Jucato> What are the different kinds of themes in KDE? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[04:14] <linuxkid2> deb files? right click and install.
[04:14] <alex_> Jucato: thx
[04:14] <intelikey> ok.  i think i actually need help here to salvage this install.   can anyone walk me through a rebuild of dpkg ?
[04:14] <intelikey> package manager is fubar
[04:14] <intelikey> ?
[04:15] <Zaphar_ps> oooh that ones beyond me
[04:16] <intelikey> i've tried apt-get install -f     dpkg --configure -a    aptitude    everything errors out with  "there were too many errors to count"
[04:17] <DaSkreech> Zaphar_ps: Huh Can't you just compile the OSS on windows?
[04:17] <Zaphar_ps> I once fixed a fubared db by spending an hour in aptitude fixing broken packages
[04:17] <Zaphar_ps> DaSkreech: sure if you want I guess
[04:18] <gnomefreak> intelikey: what errors (give 2 or 3) and what ubuntu version
[04:18] <linuxkid2> bye bye
[04:18] <Jucato> hi claydoh!
[04:18] <Zaphar_ps> DaSkreech: oh wait no there is no windows source to compile you might be able to get it to compile on cygwin but I don't know.
[04:20] <draik> Hawkwind: Here is the 4-way monitors supported for Linux... http://www.matrox.com/mga/corp/financial/products/qidlp.cfm
[04:20] <Jucato> draik: hmm.....
[04:20] <intelikey> dapper  1.dpkg: error processing libc6 (--configure):   2.subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1    and on and on and on....
[04:21] <intelikey> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libpam0g:
[04:21] <intelikey> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libselinux1:
[04:21] <intelikey>  libselinux1 depends on libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1); however:
[04:21] <intelikey>   Package libc6 is not configured yet.
[04:21] <Jucato> intelikey: pastebin?
[04:22] <alex_> Jucato: unfortunately it doesn't answer any questions on .deb packages
[04:22] <Jucato> or you don't have X?
[04:22] <alex_> Jucato: also, I cannot find the program kdmtheme
[04:22] <intelikey> Jucato hehe i wish.   i'm cnrooted in right now cause it wont even boot
[04:22] <intelikey> chrooted that is.
[04:23] <Hawkwind> draik: Heh, that's pretty kewl, but a bit too expensive for me
[04:23] <Jucato> alex_: well, you basically just have to install that .deb file. it's probably a widget Style
[04:23] <alex_> Jucato: question is, how do I install it?
[04:23] <intelikey> gnomefreak  ?
[04:23] <draik> I would get it and I know that I would not see the world for quite a while... aside from the size
[04:23] <Ballistik> Anyone know any nintendo 64 emulators for linux?
[04:23] <gnomefreak> intelikey: you have errors?
[04:23] <gnomefreak> oh nm
[04:23] <claydoh> hi Jucato
[04:24] <gnomefreak> i see them and ar eyou on dapper or edgy?
[04:24] <Jucato> alex_: either right-click on it in Konqueror and choose "Kubuntu Package Menu > Install Package" or in the command line "sudo dpkg -i <.deb file name>"
[04:24] <intelikey> i answered that too    dapper
[04:24] <alex_> Jucato: greatly appreciated, I will try that now
[04:25] <intelikey> gnomefreak 606
[04:25] <gnomefreak> intelikey: sudo dpkg --configure libc6 let me know what it does
[04:26] <gnomefreak> intelikey: libc6 needs to be configured before anything else
[04:26] <intelikey> dpkg: error processing libc6 (--configure):
[04:26] <intelikey>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:26] <gnomefreak> wait a min
[04:26] <Ballistik> Anyone know any nintendo 64 emulators for linux?
[04:26] <gnomefreak> intelikey: thats the wrong version of libc6 for dapper
[04:26] <Hawkwind> Ballistik: No need to repeat yourself
[04:26] <Hawkwind> Ballistik: You can however search on packages.ubuntu.com
[04:26] <gnomefreak> 2.3.6-0ubuntu20  is dappers libc6
[04:27] <intelikey> it came from the repos
[04:27] <nalioth> Ballistik: apt-cache search n64
[04:27] <intelikey> it is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20
[04:27] <secleinteer> does any1 know where i can enter a command that i want to run on every login?
[04:27] <Zaphar_ps> Sweet the Xara bitmap tracer is pretty nice
[04:28] <intelikey> gnomefreak tty1 [root@/]  dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.6-0ubuntu20_i386.deb
[04:28] <intelikey> Setting up libc6 (2.3.6-0ubuntu20) ...
[04:28] <intelikey> dpkg: error processing libc6 (--install):
[04:28] <intelikey>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:28] <gnomefreak> intelikey: is dapper fully installed? or did the install stop?
[04:28] <intelikey> been working for months
[04:29] <gnomefreak> and did this start by an update?
[04:29] <intelikey> yup
[04:29] <intelikey> first update.  and it wanted to update over 100 packages
[04:29] <gnomefreak> intelikey: was libc6 part of that update?
[04:30] <intelikey> so i let it.   yep
[04:30] <gnomefreak> im almost thinking of force the configure (but i never said that) and im not asking you to do it
[04:30] <intelikey> tried that  it wont work
[04:30] <gnomefreak> intelikey: ok you only have tty?
[04:31] <intelikey> --force-all     yes consoel
[04:31] <intelikey> le
[04:31] <gnomefreak> intelikey: you tried sudo dpkg -i --force-all path yougave me
[04:31] <intelikey> yep
[04:31] <intelikey> still errors our
[04:31] <intelikey> i tried every thing i could think of.
[04:32] <intelikey> all the same.
[04:33] <intelikey> someone drop me the url for a known working package of  "libc6_2.3.6-0ubuntu20_i386.deb"    let me ld and try that.
[04:33] <intelikey> it could be a broken dl or something
[04:34] <intelikey> or later if there is a later version
[04:34] <intelikey> anyone someone ?
[04:35] <Jucato> claydoh: hey you're right about the dcoprss package being needed for KNewsTicker (not KNode) to show up in Kontact's Summary View
[04:36] <claydoh> http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:36] <profoXP> hey I installed kubuntu-desktop right -- I used gtk-qt engine -- and now my GNOME theme is messed up and I can't change it -- it crashes on every gtk app
[04:36] <profoXP> how do I disable it..
[04:36] <intelikey> claydoh you know that one to be good ?   and i need the full url  i'm very limited on what can run right now
[04:37] <Jucato> profoXP: System Settings > Appearance > GTK Style and Fonts ??
[04:37] <profoXP> Jucato: yea and then what.. where's the option to disable it :P
[04:37] <claydoh> dunno, jut the place to search for official debs
[04:38] <Jucato> profoXP: set it the style to use one of GNOME's themes/styles
[04:38] <Jucato> like Human
[04:38] <claydoh> I am on crap dialuop and the pages take too long to load
[04:38] <intelikey> searching is out of the question.    and installing a text based browser is hehhe  kinda the point.   dpkg is hosed
[04:38] <claydoh> so I stopped trying the search
[04:38] <gnomefreak> intelikey: try sudo apt-get remove libc6
[04:38] <bimberi> intelikey: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.3.6-0ubuntu20_i386.deb
[04:38] <gnomefreak> intelikey: and than install it over again or go to packages.ubuntu.com and grab it
[04:38] <intelikey> gnomefreak did that it hangs the system
[04:39] <intelikey> bimberi ty wgetting
[04:39] <gnomefreak> intelikey: the removal or the installing hung system?
[04:40] <intelikey> gnomefreak when you remove libc nothing works.
[04:40] <gnomefreak> dont quote me on this but im thinking dpkg isnt gonna configure the one you are grabbing with the one still in dpkg
[04:41] <intelikey> the new package had already over written the /lib/libc* and the forced removal of it renders the system shell less and app less.
[04:41] <gnomefreak> sob
[04:42] <intelikey> i might be able to use something like mc and execute that it might keep the data in ram while it's still running making it possable to install the new.     if mc is installed
[04:43] <intelikey> eeek skratch that
[04:43] <gnomefreak> intelikey: i am not seeing a safe way around it
[04:43] <gnomefreak> them: can you please stop changing nicks so often
[04:44] <intelikey> this is looking more and more like the only hope is a full reload.
[04:44] <Stuart_> hey people... im running an amd64 kubuntu and i am trying to install Eternal Lands
[04:44] <them> whoopsy
[04:44] <gnomefreak> intelikey: libc6 is a main lib and thats what scares me about this
[04:44] <Stuart_> I am having some trouble with missing libs from lib32
[04:44] <Stuart_> like libopenal.so.0
[04:44] <them> so indecisive... forgot it still shows on the other channels
[04:45] <intelikey> yep it's a system hoser
[04:45] <Stuart_> can i install this libs without using debootstrap ?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> Stuart_: more than likely install yes run no
[04:45] <actinic> is this the windows xp forum?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> Stuart_: lib32 is for 32bit you can run them in chroot but thats all i know of
[04:45] <actinic> :)
[04:45] <gnomefreak> actinic: nope try #3windows
[04:46] <gnomefreak> -3
[04:46] <Stuart_> there are some ia32-libs into adept...
[04:46] <Jucato> lol
[04:46] <intelikey> as soon as this dl is finished i'll diff the two packages....
[04:46] <Stuart_> they help me a lot
[04:46] <actinic> lol
[04:46] <gnomefreak> Stuart_: yes you can install them but you cant use them without a chroot if im not mistaken
[04:47] <Stuart_> i am running wine just with them
[04:48] <Jucato> wb claydoh! I bet you can't wait to get a that DSL connection ^_^
[04:49] <josh__> does this version of ubuntu have a easysources webpage also?
[04:49] <josh__> !easysources
[04:49] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:49] <josh__> woot woot
[04:50] <claydoh> no, I just *love* waiting minutes and minutes for images to load :(
[04:50] <Jucato> claydoh: when's it coming btw?
[04:50] <josh__> get cable ;P
[04:51] <profoXP> Jucato: apparantly that doesnt work -- hold on bbl
[04:51] <claydoh> soon, a week or 2
[04:51] <claydoh> cable, bah!
[04:51] <claydoh> I have sat tv, why get cable?
[04:52] <Jucato> lol
[04:52] <josh__> cuz of the cable internet
[04:52] <Jucato> that's why he's getting DSL... @_@
[04:52] <josh__> dsl sucks
[04:53] <intelikey> looks like a hopeless case.   that's another strike against dpkg    i realize anything has it's limits, but this is rediculess
[04:53] <unix_infidel>  does anyone know if religious institutions get special deals with electronics companies or whether they are tax exempt?
[04:53] <actinic> my dsl:  1.5 down/800 up
[04:53] <josh__> are u cgoing to start a church for free software?
[04:53] <josh__> my cable 6 meg down 2 meg up
[04:54] <intelikey> they diff the same looks like "if it's a bad package" i got the same one both times.
[04:54] <actinic> ... for $21/month
[04:54] <josh__> course its costs 120 a month... but its worth it :)
[04:55] <claydoh> my last dsl was 5/2
[04:55] <josh__> brb, gotta update my sources.list
[04:55] <gregr> #ubuntu
[04:55] <claydoh> but I must pinch pennies and go with 1 mb
[04:55] <intelikey> josh__ nothing highspeed but satilite here.   but dialup is cheep $7./month
[04:55] <DaSkreech> We can get 1MB for about 600 dollars
[04:56] <actinic> wow, $120/mth for cable ... mucho expensivo
[04:56] <actinic> i don't care what the up/dl speed is
[04:57] <Jucato> we're gonna get scolded again for going off-topic... lol
[04:58] <actinic> getting back on topic <cough> nice blog on installing rpm's using alien: https://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/23/installing-using-an-rpm-file/
[04:58] <intelikey> yeah 1t up/down wouldnt help slow hardware
[04:58] <intelikey> !offtopic
[04:58] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:58] <actinic> !windows
[04:58] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[04:58] <Jucato> [AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)
[04:58] <claydoh> !dsl
[04:58] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:58] <claydoh> there
[04:58] <claydoh> !dialup
[04:58] <Jucato> lol
[04:58] <actinic> lol
[04:58] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[04:59] <actinic> !cable
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cable - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <actinic> oops
[04:59] <Jucato> hahahaha
[04:59] <claydoh> lol!!!
[04:59] <claydoh> thee you go
[04:59] <actinic> guess cable sucks
[04:59] <Jucato> ^_^
[04:59] <actinic> :)
[04:59] <Jucato> grr... need to grab something to eat... brb
[05:00] <josh__> lol
[05:00] <josh__> thats because its so easy you dont need a manul
[05:00] <josh__> :P
[05:00] <josh__> you click firefox and up it goes
[05:00] <josh__> lol
[05:02] <josh__> ok im out guys (gotta set this new server up)
[05:02] <josh__> cya later
[05:02] <actinic> hey, any u guys read tux magazine?
[05:04] <Jucato> me... but I have read only up to issue 3
[05:04] <Jucato> but I have the latest (I think)
[05:05] <intelikey> i see one error in the libc6 post install script it's bash and not sh   who the hell keeps doing that !
[05:05] <Nerevar> i can't get kubuntu to start
[05:06] <DaSkreech> Nerevar: Some more info?
[05:06] <Nerevar> i put the live cd, boot up, and it hangs at mounting drive
[05:06] <actinic> Jucato, i've got all the magazines indexed.  bottom of 1st post: http://www.whatsinyourbox.org/index.php/topic,1714.0.html
[05:06] <Nerevar> then, after i wait about 4 minutes or 6 minutes, it says the drive is confused and spams it over and over again infinitely
[05:06] <actinic> plus u can dl them from my ftp server
[05:06] <Jucato> actinic: I have them all but haven't read them all :-D
[05:06] <Jucato> come January, our free subscription ends...
[05:06] <intelikey> and i can't fix the script cause it over writes it each time it tries to run it   i chattr -i 'd it and it errors out on cant over write.....
[05:06] <intelikey> peace of krap.
[05:07] <Jucato> ...
[05:07] <actinic> Jucato  yep, fortunately $9 a yr isn't bad
[05:07] <Jucato> actinic: unfortunately, I don't know of a way I could send in the payment...
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> !limewire
[05:07] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[05:08] <Jucato> !frostwire
[05:08] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[05:08] <actinic> Jucato, why?  diff country?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> I keep thionking 'frostfire'
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:08] <Jucato> ehehe
[05:08] <Nerevar> so i'm at a loss what to do
[05:08] <Nerevar> the live cd wont start
[05:08] <Jucato> actinic: yep. philippines. now PayPal for us... (and my mom won't let me use her debit card)
[05:09] <actinic> gotcha
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> Nerevar,   could try some other live cd's see if its affecting all of them
[05:09] <actinic> Nerevar, u sure the disk isn't corrupted?
[05:09] <Nerevar> doubt it, burned it with an expensive burner
[05:10] <DaSkreech> haha :)
[05:10] <DaSkreech> LIke expensive cars don't crash
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> !java
[05:10] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:10] <DaSkreech> When it starts it should give you the option to do a CD test
[05:10] <actinic> burner doesn't necessarily matter, the media might
[05:10] <DaSkreech>  might be worth the time to run it
[05:10] <Nerevar> the media is shit, i admit
[05:10] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: If you're going to install Java, don't use Adept (but I doubt you use that anyway...)
[05:10] <actinic> i've seen plextors that couldn't burn squat due to major media suckage
[05:11] <Nerevar> i will try one more time
[05:11] <actinic> try burning at a lower speed
[05:11] <intelikey> i think i did something....
[05:11] <Nerevar> ok
[05:11] <actinic> also md5sum the iso to make sure the file isn't corrupt
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> Jucato,  i couldent rember the url to the    sudo update-alternatives --config java   command i needed. :P
[05:11] <Jucato> a combination of the ISO (md5sum), media (CD-R/RW), the device (burner), and the burning itself affects the output of a LiveCD
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> which fixed the problem. :)
[05:12] <Jucato> Dr_Willis: aaah ^)_^
[05:13] <intelikey> this may be the fix to the hangup.    it's not the ubuntu way, i know.   but i think it worked.   "apt-get -f remove & until never ;do rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.postinst ;done  "
[05:13] <fyyrest0rm> hi guys..is xinerama necessary with kubuntu/kde?
[05:14] <Jucato> fyyrest0rm: I think only if you're using multiple monitors?
[05:14] <fyyrest0rm> trying to get WoW to work a bit better, been reading that xinerama may be causing some of the performance problem..just wondering if getting rid of it will bork anything
[05:14] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: nope..one monitor
[05:14] <Jucato> it's not a dependency of kubuntu-desktop, that's for sure
[05:15] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: which means uninstalling it will bork x then?
[05:15] <Jucato> no. I said it was NOT a dependency. meaning kubuntu is not dependent on it. that's as far as I know
[05:15] <fyyrest0rm> jucato: i'm sorry..read it wrong lol
[05:16] <fyyrest0rm> anyone know of a way to turn it off without uninstalling it?
[05:18] <intelikey> well i'm past one hurtle.  but not out of the woods.
[05:19] <intelikey> it'd be quicker to reload.
[05:19] <intelikey> somebody tell me to reload.
[05:20] <fyyrest0rm> reload :)
[05:20] <Nerevar> ok... burned at 16x
[05:20] <Nerevar> if this doesnt work im done for tonight
[05:20] <Jucato> Nerevar: that's the slowest speed that you can burn?
[05:21] <Nerevar> there was 8x, but im impatient
[05:21] <Nerevar> anyways, here goes
[05:21] <Jucato>  @_@
[05:22] <ryan_> im having problems editing my sources.list ....i keep gitting the error "The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to file:///etc/apt/sources.list."
[05:22] <actinic> hmm, 'why I don't like kubuntu': http://www.superquest.net/blogs/
[05:23] <Jucato> ryan_: you need to have administrator priviliges to edit that file
[05:23] <Jucato> !sudo
[05:23] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:24] <DaSkreech> dang anyone have a place I can toss a pic ?
[05:24] <Jucato> DaSkreech: photobucket? imageshack?
[05:24] <DaSkreech> Ok
[05:25] <Jucato> actinic: I guess he never read about "sudo -i"
[05:25] <DaSkreech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21611
[05:25] <DaSkreech> That works :)
[05:26] <Jucato> actinic: I also wonder if he had the "show icons on desktop" disabled
[05:26] <Jucato> DaSkreech: lol! I didn't know pastebin could do images ehehe
[05:26] <actinic> Jucato, he could of been on drugs too
[05:27] <Drako60> anyone here know of any programs with Dapper and via chipset on AM2 MB with AMD64 X2 not allowing UDMA?
[05:28] <Jucato> actinic: I soooo want to leave a comment
[05:28] <tulga> I'm compiling 2.6.17 kernel. where is devfs option?
[05:28] <actinic> lol
[05:28] <Nerevar> it says: hdh: the drive appears confused. 0x01 infinitely.
[05:28] <Nerevar> reason 0x01.
[05:28] <Nerevar> at "mounting drive" step.
[05:29] <Nerevar> my theory is, it has something to do with the old mandrake install i have on the drive.
[05:31] <wolfmanz> what would cause the ATI driver to not work after being installed?
[05:33] <kazukisan> I have a Sata HDD hooked up it see's it, but in "Disk" it lets me reformat to what ever but it always says none of the free space is avaible and i can't mount nor enable it ?? Any suggestions Please ^_^
[05:34] <Nerevar> looks like multiple ppl are complaining about my problem
[05:35] <Jucato> actinic: although I agree with one thing, about how (relatively) difficult it is to put a Trash icon on the desktop...
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> !audacity
[05:35] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[05:39] <Nerevar> so ..
[05:40] <jacob> I have a desktop with a Broadcom wireless card that Kubuntu doesn't recognize, so i found this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174 .  It mentions using a CD as a repo to install the bcm43xx-fwcutter tool, so how might I do that? (I don't have wired internet access on that machine)
[05:40] <Nerevar> no advice i guess
[05:41] <actinic> Jucato, sudo -i for root shell access?  I don't seem to have a man for it ... I think.
[05:42] <Jucato> actinic: from the sudo man page: The -i (simulate initial login) option runs the shell specified in the passwd(5) entry of the user that the command is being run as.
[05:42] <Snake> I just deleted my whole home dir, is it possible to recover
[05:42] <Kr4t05> anyone have a clue as to restoring a /home/ dir in the event of accidental deletion?
[05:42] <Kr4t05> AKA rm -rf?
[05:42] <Jucato> Snake: if you deleted from Konqueror, yes?
[05:42] <actinic> Jucato, whats the command synatx to get the man page?
[05:42] <Snake> Jucato: rm -r
[05:42] <actinic> err sytax
[05:43] <Jucato> oooh...
[05:43] <Jucato> T_T
[05:43] <actinic> syntax
[05:43] <actinic> lol
[05:43] <ryan_> how to i get write access to a file
[05:43] <Snake> Jucato: ill say its not possible?
[05:44] <Jucato> I don't know if there's "undel" in BASH...
[05:44] <Jucato> but AFAIK, it's gone...
[05:44] <draik> actinic, 'man (app)'
[05:44] <Snake> thats what I figured
[05:44] <Snake> damn it
[05:44] <Kr4t05> Snake: :/
[05:44] <actinic> draik, thanks
[05:44] <draik> actinic, np. Glad I could help
[05:45] <Kr4t05> Snake: you could always re-create your user.
[05:45] <Snake> Kr4t05: what do you mean?
[05:45] <Kr4t05> Snake: granted, you wouldn't be able to restore your lost data, but it would be suitable.
[05:45] <draik> ryan_, 'chmod 700 filename'
[05:45] <Snake> Kr4t05: that wont bring back the lost data
[05:45] <Snake> Kr4t05: I can just make a new home dir lol
[05:45] <Kr4t05> Snake: Add a new user with sudo rights.
[05:45] <actinic> one of these days we're going to need a SUDO lesson :)
[05:45] <Jucato> draik: I think he was trying to write to sources.list?
[05:45] <Snake> Kr4t05: Linux automatically rebuilds the default settings
[05:45] <Snake> Kr4t05: so that no biggy to me
[05:46] <Kr4t05> Snake: If you just mkdir /home/snake it won't accept it as your home dir
[05:46] <Kr4t05> Snake: IIRC
[05:46] <Snake> Kr4t05: regardless, when I restart all the defaults will be restored
[05:46] <Jucato> except for the data...
[05:46] <Kr4t05> Snake: You won't have a home dir, though.
[05:47] <Snake> Kr4t05: yess I will
[05:47] <Kr4t05> Snake: Maybe you will...
[05:47] <Kr4t05> Snake: I dunno. :/
[05:47] <Snake> Kr4t05: its gotta put the /. configs somewhere
[05:47] <Snake> ;)
[05:47] <Nerevar> wow.. there are 8 pages of people having the same problem as me in the forum
[05:47] <Kr4t05> Snake: ok, do it.
[05:47] <Snake> ill get to it later
[05:47] <Kr4t05> Nerevar: What would that be?
[05:47] <Snake> right now I want to memorize as many settings as I can
[05:47] <Jucato> do it now! lol
[05:47] <Snake> so I can set them back
[05:47] <Snake> lol
[05:49] <jacob> Can I put a package on a CD to install it on a machine w/o internet access?
[05:49] <Nerevar> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187318&page=5
[05:49] <Nerevar> i am reading this trainwreck to see if anyone posted a fix
[05:50] <Nerevar> it seems everyone disabled legacy USB in their bios. i dont know what that will do, im a little hesitant
[05:51] <etzerd> hello ubuntu people
[05:51] <etzerd> ?
[05:52] <etzerd> I have Microsoft Office 2003
[05:52] <etzerd> everytime I start the installation from ubuntu using wine at the end of the installation it's failed, any Idea why?
[05:52] <Healot> Nerevar: legacy USB mode is to support USB keyboard and mouse in DOS real mode, since Linux kernel has native USB drivers, there is no need to enable it
[05:53] <Healot> etzerd: : read WINE compatibility list
[05:57] <TehKewl1> how do you get gcc to work properly?
[05:59] <draik> etzerd, ubuntu doesn't like "#2" being installed on it
 'chmod 700 filename' did not work i got the error "
[05:59] <ryan_> ryan@server:/etc$ chmod 700 fstab
[05:59] <ryan_> chmod: changing permissions of `fstab': Operation not permitted
[05:59] <nalioth> ryan_: oooh don't do that
[05:59] <ryan_> sorry....nob
[06:00] <draik> I thought this was just a regular file
[06:00] <nalioth> ryan_: if it isn't in your /home directory DO NOT MESS with it
[06:00] <ryan_> in trying to mount a ntfs drive
[06:00] <draik> general rule of thumb, I'd say
[06:00] <nalioth> sorry for the caps, but only your home directory contents should be messed with
[06:00] <jacob> ryan_: then do sudo -i
[06:00] <intelikey> yuch is there no easy to change the background from white to something viewable in gaim ?
[06:00] <jacob> but dont change the permissions of the drive
[06:01] <wolfmanz> What would cause the ATI driver not to work?
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> ryan_,  http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume   is the definitive guide on that topic. :)
[06:01] <ryan_> alright ....ill see if i can get it to work
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> well worth bookmarking and reading a few times. :)
[06:02] <intelikey> gaim. like everything else ubuntu default; looks like crap.
[06:02] <Nerevar> ok well i give up with this
[06:02] <Kronos> intelikey: KDE! :)
[06:02] <Nerevar> maybe i'll try it next year.. gonna try pclinuxos.. later
[06:02] <draik> tired Dr_Willis?
[06:02] <intelikey> no the only live cd i have is venella ubuntu
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> my system wont even boot if i ENABLE legacy usb support.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:03] <Kronos> Well, I'm going to bed while StepMania compiles.
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> but nerevar just left. :)
[06:04] <thompa> join #ubuntu
[06:04] <draik> lol
[06:04] <intelikey> and you cant move windows over the pannels...  peace of junk.
[06:04] <draik> thompa, /joing
[06:04] <thompa> sry
[06:04] <draik> */join
[06:04] <thompa> already there
[06:05] <thompa> has anyone tried kubuntu in edgy yet
[06:05] <thompa> im running kde apps in ubuntu edgy
[06:06] <thompa> i still need konqueror for some reason
[06:07] <thompa> does realplayer work in kubuntu64?
[06:07] <thompa> !realplayer
[06:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:08] <thompa> i know it sucks
[06:09] <intelikey> and if you close the "buddy" list window gaim crashes.    i know now why i never tried this dung heap before.
[06:11] <shane_> I am looking for a game similar to Cube for linux any suggestions?
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Whats Cube?
[06:11] <draik> I think it's got squares and boxes and such
[06:12] <shane_> Cube is just a FPS single player or online multiplayer
[06:13] <shane_> looks and plays nice
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Ah
[06:13] <DaSkreech> Umm Dang it hold on
[06:13] <wolfmanz> do you have to reinstall graphic drivers in this case ATI if you switch to another kernal as in going from the 386 kernal to the k7?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> I know of this one that I used to play
[06:14] <thompa> wokfwanz: i know when i switched I reinstalled
[06:14] <Lamington> hello
[06:14] <draik> counter strike?
[06:14] <Lamington> I have a problem with kmail
[06:14] <thompa> that was cause of a nvidia-64 driver though
[06:15] <Lamington> I'm receiving emails but emails I send dont arrive at their destinations
[06:15] <thompa> wokfwanz: if it doesnt work just reinstall the driver
[06:15] <thompa> i tried k7 kernel but get better results on amd64
[06:16] <wolfmanz> thompa: thats just it i just installed the driver with easyubuntu and the ati driver isnt working i'm seeing that messa driver as the default
[06:16] <thompa> easyubuntu ,,eh
[06:16] <Lamington> Is anyone here using kmail ?
[06:17] <wolfmanz> thompa: ya it worked fine a few days ago but tonight after doing a fresh install the ati driover is not working for some reason
[06:19] <thompa> wokfwanz: did you edit the xorg.conf
[06:19] <wolfmanz> thompa:  ya thats set the way it should be
[06:20] <r3sil3> So I have a question if any one can help?
[06:20] <Healot> !ask
[06:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:20] <r3sil3> Ok thanks
[06:20] <r3sil3> Ok here's the problem
[06:20] <r3sil3> i just installed Kubuntu
[06:20] <draik> Welcome to Kubuntu r3sil3
[06:20] <thompa> wokfwanz: does xorg.conf have what for driver "driver"?
[06:20] <r3sil3> mounted my NTFS drives, all fine, but when I go to play them, it just skips through them like they aren't found
[06:21] <draik> skips through what?
[06:21] <wolfmanz> thompa: it has fglrx
[06:21] <r3sil3> the playlist
[06:21] <r3sil3> like it isn't finding the songs
[06:21] <draik> I can't say I've had that issue cuz I pulled my fav's from my NTFS HDD and saved them in a folder
[06:21] <draik> try doing that
[06:22] <draik> create a folder on your desktop and then save your fav's
[06:22] <r3sil3> Ok, let me switch to Kubuntu
[06:22] <r3sil3> alright
[06:22] <r3sil3> brb
[06:22] <r3sil3> ill get on here on kubuntu
[06:22] <NDPowerBook> http://mattcbr.wordpress.com/2006/08/02/transformers-video/
[06:22] <starz> how do i gain root access
[06:22] <thompa> wokfwanz: i dont know, you said mesa also
[06:22] <Healot> r3sil3: : follow the next factoid links
[06:22] <Healot> !mp3
[06:22] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:23] <wolfmanz> thompa: messa is what is showing up when i type in fglrxinfo
[06:23] <thompa> is that default screen
[06:23] <wolfmanz> thompa: thats the default 3d driver
[06:23] <thompa> right
[06:24] <thompa> i dont know about easyubuntu
[06:24] <thompa> just remove it
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> !sudo > starz
[06:25] <thompa> 2.6.17-6-amd64-generic
[06:29] <thompa> !easyubuntu
[06:29] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:31] <pierreth> is possible to set konqueror in kubuntu like it is in other distribution?
[06:31] <r3sil3> ok im back
[06:31] <r3sil3> i am copying all of my music to the desktop
[06:31] <r3sil3> or a folder on the desktop i should say
[06:32] <r3sil3> i love kubuntu, just.............new to linux
[06:32] <r3sil3> im a PC tech and I need to learn linux for myself and my job
[06:32] <thompa> its great , ubuntu is nice too
[06:32] <r3sil3> i wanted to start out with something more graphical
[06:32] <r3sil3> then learn coding and what not, then jump into that
[06:33] <thompa> are the windows suppossed to creak in gnome
[06:38] <starz> once i mount my ntfs drive i get the gernic error "Could not enter folder /media/Hard Disks/Toshiba 100GB"
[06:38] <starz> any idea
[06:39] <draik> thompa, update gnome... it's getting old :p
[06:40] <r3sil3> draik
[06:40] <r3sil3> im not registered
[06:40] <r3sil3> so no PM's for me
[06:40] <draik> ok
[06:40] <draik> np
[06:40] <r3sil3> so
[06:41] <r3sil3> i copied everything to the desktop
[06:41] <draik> and?
[06:41] <r3sil3> or the kubuntu disk
[06:41] <draik> working for you?
[06:41] <r3sil3> and still the same thing
[06:41] <draik> what are you using to listen to them?
[06:41] <r3sil3> kaffiene
[06:41] <r3sil3> and the other one
[06:41] <r3sil3> amerok
[06:41] <draik> mp3?
[06:41] <r3sil3> my sound works
[06:41] <r3sil3> yes
[06:41] <r3sil3> MP3
[06:41] <r3sil3> Isnt there something I have to do to get them to work?
[06:41] <r3sil3> IIRC
[06:41] <draik> w32codec
[06:41] <r3sil3> where do i get it
[06:41] <draik> !mp3
[06:41] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:42] <r3sil3> Thanks!
[06:42] <r3sil3> So i have to install W32codecs?
[06:42] <draik> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#w32codecs
[06:42] <draik> yup
[06:43] <draik> click on that link and it will take you straight to what you need
[06:43] <r3sil3> so
[06:43] <r3sil3> i have to go into terminal
[06:43] <r3sil3> and type
[06:43] <r3sil3> wget -c http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[06:43] <r3sil3> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-1plf1_i386.deb
[06:43] <r3sil3> taht?
[06:44] <draik> yup
[06:44] <imbrandon_> yes
[06:44] <draik> in a terminal
[06:44] <r3sil3> k downloading now
[06:44] <r3sil3> will it isntall itself?
[06:44] <draik> you might also want to get yakuake
[06:44] <r3sil3> im VERY new to this
[06:44] <draik> yes
[06:44] <r3sil3> if you couldn't tell
[06:44] <draik> we're here to help as long as you're willing to learn
[06:44] <r3sil3> tahts why im usign it :)
[06:44] <draik> :)
[06:45] <r3sil3> that and im sick of the monopoly of shit they call microsoft :)
[06:45] <r3sil3> ok
[06:45] <r3sil3> its still doign the same thing
[06:45] <soulrider> hi
[06:46] <draik> hello
[06:46] <r3sil3> hi sould
[06:46] <r3sil3> soul
[06:46] <pierreth> hi
[06:46] <r3sil3> hey draik
[06:46] <r3sil3> still same thing bro
[06:46] <draik> try xmms
[06:47] <r3sil3> ok
[06:47] <r3sil3> !xmms
[06:47] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:47] <draik> K Menu > Multimedia > XMMS
[06:47] <draik> it's already installed
[06:47] <r3sil3> I dont see it under multimedia
[06:47] <draik> Kubuntu 6.06?
[06:47] <draik> right?
[06:47] <r3sil3> newest one off the web
[06:49] <draik> open terminal
[06:49] <r3sil3> k
[06:49] <r3sil3> open
[06:50] <r3sil3> so i just tested an OGG, it works
[06:50] <draik> let me get you what you need to install the xmms player
[06:50] <r3sil3> ok thanks
[06:50] <draik> type...
[06:50] <draik> sudo apt-get install xmms
[06:51] <r3sil3> ok its doing its thing
[06:51] <r3sil3> k done
[06:51] <r3sil3> where will it be
[06:51] <draik> K Menu > Multimedia > XMMS
[06:51] <r3sil3> still not there.
[06:51] <r3sil3> wtf
[06:52] <r3sil3> i "could" open audacity and try to turn one into an OGG and see if it works
[06:53] <draik> try it
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> We dare you!
[06:54] <r3sil3> lol
[06:54] <imbrandon_> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[06:54] <imbrandon_> is what you want
[06:55] <Healot> what you need
[06:55] <r3sil3> which version do I have to download to get it to install to linux
[06:56] <r3sil3> .tar.gz?
[06:56] <imbrandon_> you dont unless yo are confrotable compiling, otherwise you get the deb from apt-get
[06:57] <imbrandon_> apt-get install <package name>
[06:57] <r3sil3> so whats taht command?
[06:57] <r3sil3> ah
[06:57] <r3sil3> thanks
[06:57] <Healot> !apt
[06:57] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:57] <imbrandon_> or use adept
[06:57] <hupp3l> hi, i messed up bad but I think it is fixable
[06:58] <r3sil3> pt-get install audacity
[06:58] <r3sil3> Reading package lists... Done
[06:58] <r3sil3> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:58] <r3sil3> E: Couldn't find package audacity
[06:58] <hupp3l> I wanted to run kubuntu through my projecter
[06:58] <Healot> !repos
[06:58] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:58] <hupp3l> and I went into the settings and as my screen I chose something else than the default
[06:59] <imbrandon_> r3sil3: its in universe
[06:59] <hupp3l> now kubuntu starts up, it loads and then it just shows the logo and freezes up
[06:59] <hupp3l> when I press the power button it shuts down like it would normally
[06:59] <hupp3l> ie. the xserver wont start right
[06:59] <jacob> Hey, how can I download a deb file so I can install in on another computer?
[07:00] <Jucato> hupp3l: once you get to the point where it stops at the logo, press Ctrl+Alt+F1, then type in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:00] <Jucato> (without the quotes)
[07:00] <r3sil3> im so confused
[07:00] <Jucato> !audacity
[07:00] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1842 kB, installed size 5460 kB
[07:00] <hupp3l> ok i will try it Jucato
[07:00] <imbrandon_> r3sil3: you just need to enable universe
[07:00] <r3sil3> why does it have to be so hard to download stuff
[07:00] <r3sil3> how do i do that
[07:00] <Jucato> Need to enable "universe" and "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:00] <imbrandon_> !repos
[07:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:02] <starz> ok in realy new to linux i just made the swich to kubuntu from windows xp ive never done anythign with linux untill now can anyone suggest a beginners site
[07:02] <Jucato> imbrandon_: thanks for making Amarok 1.4.2 available in Dapper ^_^
[07:02] <imbrandon_> Jucato: welcome ;)
[07:03] <imbrandon_> brb food time
[07:03] <Jucato> starz: you can view an off-line guide to Kubuntu (with a short intro to Linux) in K Menu > Help. Look for the Kubuntu Desktop Guide
[07:03] <starz> thanks
[07:03] <Browneh> starz: ubuntuforums.org :D
[07:03] <jacob> starz: the Kubuntu Desktop Guide also links to http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/index.html , which is useful
[07:04] <hupp3l> what mouse should i choose Imps/2 or explorerps/2?
[07:04] <hupp3l> its an internal laptop mouse and sometime a usb mouse
[07:04] <Jucato> hupp3l: it usually highlights the default. usually...
[07:05] <Jucato> starz: the link jacob gave is also a good one.  Done
[07:09] <jacob> Is there a way I can put a package on a CD so I can use it as a repository on a machine without internet access?
[07:09] <r3sil3> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:09] <r3sil3> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:09] <r3sil3> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:09] <r3sil3> is only available from another source
[07:09] <r3sil3> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[07:09] <r3sil3> i get that shit
[07:10] <Healot> !multiverse
[07:10] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:10] <Healot> read the following factoid
[07:11] <Jucato> r3sil3: I have a feeling that either multiverse wasn't enabled, or the wrong multiverse was enabled, or it wasn't enabled properly
[07:12] <Jucato> hmm... if you were a new user, new to Kubuntu, new to Linux, and didn't know about kio slaves like trash:/, how do you easily make a Trash icon on your desktop?
[07:12] <jacob> Really, can I make a CD to use as a repo?  By putting deb files on it or something?  >_>
[07:13] <Jucato> jacob: I think you can.
[07:13] <r3sil3> same as in the picture they showed
[07:13] <jacob> How would I get the deb files?  Project pages usually just have the source files..
[07:14] <Jucato> r3sil3: did you click on Apply then Fetch Updates when you made the changes?
[07:15] <r3sil3> yes
[07:15] <r3sil3> and it worked
[07:16] <Jucato> r3sil3: "and it worked"... you mean now you can search "libxine-extracodecs"?
[07:16] <r3sil3> no, it fetched updates
[07:16] <r3sil3> then i did
[07:16] <r3sil3> apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:16] <r3sil3> and it didnt do anthing
[07:17] <r3sil3> so i search libxine
[07:17] <r3sil3> and it brings libxine-main1 and libxinerama1 up
[07:17] <r3sil3> both isntalled
[07:18] <Jucato> r3sil3: hm... can you check if this line is enabled (not grayed out) in Manage Repositories: "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu universe multiverse" ?? where "xx" is for us. or uk. or au. etc
[07:18] <Healot> dapper repos, not dapper-backports
[07:19] <Healot> i think you enabled multiverse section the dapper-backports repos
[07:19] <r3sil3> im oiut for now
[07:19] <Healot> btw, paste bin your /etc/apt/sources.list and I'll tell you what went wrong
[07:19] <r3sil3> this is making me confused and i gotta be up in a while
[07:19] <Jucato> !pastebin
[07:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:20] <Jucato> r3sil3: ok then. you might have better luck when you're less confused
[07:25] <Jucato> hmm... if you were a new user, new to Kubuntu, new to Linux, and didn't know about kio slaves like trash:/, how do you easily make a Trash icon on your desktop?
[07:38] <jacob> !deb
[07:38] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[07:39] <wolfmanz> does easy ubuntu work with the k7 kernals in terms of installing ATI drivers?
[07:41] <martinjh99> Anyone know if the latest Amarok is on the way??
[07:42] <Jucato> martinjh99: it already is
[07:42] <Jucato> !amarok
[07:42] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.2 and packages are available for Kubuntu at: http://www.imbrandon.com/2006/08/23/get-it-hot-amarok-142-released/
[07:42] <martinjh99> Ah - OK Was wondering if Riddell was packaging it as he usually does Amarok releases...
[07:42] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:43] <Jucato> martinjh99: it's from a Kubuntu dev also, so no biggie.
[07:43] <imbrandon> martinjh99: i do them now to take a bit of weight of Riddell ;)
[07:43] <imbrandon> i also uploaded the ppc ones earlier too
[07:44] <Jucato> eheheh, I guess people just got used to things coming from Jonathan :-D
[07:44] <imbrandon> if anyone ask Jucato
[07:44] <Jucato> lol
[07:44] <Jucato> imbrandon: btw, have I thanked you already? :-D
[07:44] <imbrandon> Jucato: yea me and hobbsee help him quite a bit this cycle ;)
[07:44] <imbrandon> Jucato: not sure but your welcome anyhow ;)
[07:44] <imbrandon> heh
[07:45] <imbrandon> kopete just hit dapper backports too
[07:45] <Jucato> backports is alive again?
[07:45] <imbrandon> yup as of yesterday
[07:45] <Jucato> whoa!
[07:45] <Jucato> kool
[07:45] <Jucato> hmm....
[07:45] <imbrandon> i'll blog about it later on the planet
[07:45] <imbrandon> and add a !backports
[07:46] <Jucato> heheh! I'll receive that post later on. (subscribed to the feed)
[07:46] <imbrandon> the reson some things will still get hosted by kubuntu.org/imbrandon.com though is cuz of libs like amarok
[07:46] <imbrandon> amarok wont ever get backported
[07:46] <jaffa_> guys where do you pakages normaly get installed to ?
[07:47] <verbose> jaffa_: that really depends on the package
[07:47] <imbrandon> jaffa_: depends on the package /usr most of the time
[07:47] <verbose> jaffa_: if i were you i'd `man hier`
[07:47] <Jucato> oh, so we'll have 2 places to get updates? backports and kubuntu.org/imbradon.com?
[07:47] <verbose> that has some good information about the file hierarchy of ubuntu
[07:47] <jaffa_> thank
[07:48] <imbrandon> Jucato: yes somethings will be in the offical dapper-backport , the stuff like kopete that dont need extra libs and the stuff that requires extra libs like amarok will go on mine or johnathans site
[07:48] <Jucato> oh
[07:48] <Jucato> imbrandon: is the new Kopete no longer dependent on XMMS?
[07:49] <imbrandon> like kopete and kbfx just got backported, and no its not
[07:49] <imbrandon> it will use it if its there but not dep on it
[07:49] <Jucato> kool. it has been dependent on it for quite a while...
[07:49] <imbrandon> yea that changed with 12.2
[07:50] <Jucato> awesome!
[07:50] <wolfmanz> does easy ubuntu work with the k7 kernals in terms of installing ATI drivers?
[07:50] <verbose> do visualizations work in amarok 1.4.2? is there a trick to them? i've apt-get install'd libvisual0.2-dev and libvisual0.2-plugins
[07:50] <imbrandon> dunno , never used it, i do everyting by hand, safer that way ;)
[07:51] <imbrandon> verbose: 1.4.2 ( from me and the official edgy ) both use libvisual-0.4
[07:51] <verbose> imbrandon: aah, thanks
[07:51] <Jucato> imbrandon: whoa! they should make an announcement that backports are alive again. I'm seeing KTorrent 2.0.1 there now (browsing through http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/)
[07:51] <imbrandon> its in the repo and amarok deps on it so it should install
[07:51] <verbose> weird, it didn't come up in apt-cache search
[07:51] <imbrandon> Jucato: ohh yea i did ktorrent too forgot about that one
[07:51] <Jucato> hehehe
[07:52] <imbrandon> verbose: its called libvisual-0.4 not just libvisual ( so it can be instaled side by side )
[07:52] <Jucato> so many people have been having problems installing the KTorrent 2.0 .deb from the KTorrent site. this will be a great help
[07:53] <verbose> imbrandon: oh, hah, thanks
[07:53] <verbose> they don't interfere with each other?
[07:53] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:~$ apt-cache search libvisual-0.4
[07:53] <imbrandon> libvisual-0.4-0 - Audio visualization framework
[07:53] <imbrandon> libvisual-0.4-dev - Audio visualization framework (development package)
[07:53] <imbrandon> libvisual-0.4-plugins - Audio visualization framework plugins
[07:53] <imbrandon> brandon@voyager:~$
[07:53] <verbose> got it now
[07:53] <imbrandon> verbose: it will replace 0.2 smoothly, trust me i spent 24 hours littlerly makin sure it was a smooth transition
[07:54] <verbose> well i appreciate that greatly
[07:54] <imbrandon> ;)
[07:54] <Jucato> imbrandon ftw!!!
[07:54] <Jucato> imbrandon: did you say that Kopete is in backports already, or will be in backports?
[07:55] <imbrandon> Jucato: yea there will be a an announcement soonish , it has been sent to the ML , and like i said i'll stick it on planet soon
[07:55] <imbrandon> Jucato: it has been processed, might not be in the mirrors yet
[07:55] <imbrandon> it will be soon if not
[07:55] <verbose> imbrandon: in which repository is libvisual-0.4-plugins? i don't see that, but i see libvisual-0.4-0  and libvisual-0.4-dev
[07:55] <Jucato> i'm browsing through the main archive.ubuntu.com
[07:55] <imbrandon> verbose: i dident backport the plugins , i can if you would like
[07:56] <imbrandon> Jucato: yea its probably still building on the buildd's that one is new by just a few minutes
[07:56] <verbose> i'm not sure what that means :P
[07:56] <danish> is there like a cls command for KONSOLE
[07:56] <imbrandon> verbose: libvis 0.4 is comming from my repo ( becouse its not in dapper proper ) and i dident package the -plugins
[07:57] <danish> clr clear screen
[07:57] <verbose> danish: `clear`
[07:57] <imbrandon> danish: clear
[07:57] <danish> thnx
[07:57] <Jucato> kool! thanks for your efforts imbrandon and Hobbsee (she's not here yet?!?!)
[07:57] <imbrandon> verbose: i only packaged the bare minimum for amarok to work
[07:57] <verbose> imbrandon: aah, ok
[07:58] <imbrandon> yea hobbsee has a cold the last few days ;( heh
[07:58] <imbrandon> she might get on late
[07:58] <Jucato> hehe! she's been busy :-D
[07:58] <Jucato> imbrandon: would the latest deKorator make it into backports?
[07:58] <imbrandon> verbose: give me a few minutes to finish up the konversation nightly and i'll mess with the -plugins
[07:59] <verbose> imbrandon: no rush man, give yourself a break :P
[07:59] <Jucato> ooh... konversation and deKorator.. I'm looking forward to those
[07:59] <imbrandon> Jucato: i dunno i'll have to look at the depends, i'll put it on my todo list
[07:59] <verbose> i'm such a graphics whore these days since i installed Xgl/compiz
[07:59] <Jucato> lol
[07:59] <verbose> i'm forming bad habits
[07:59] <imbrandon> Jucato: konversation is alreaady in my repos i make a nightly build of it
[07:59] <Jucato> take it easy imbrandon. we don't want you and Hobbsee and everyone else getting sick at the same time :-D
[08:00] <imbrandon> hehe
[08:00] <imbrandon> Jucato: just modify the deb line you have for my repo to say "all" instead of "amarok" and you get all my goodies ;)
[08:00] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:00] <imbrandon> like konvo etc ;)
[08:01] <imbrandon> !info konversation dapper-imbrandon
[08:01] <ubotu> konversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component konversation\-nightly, is optional. Version 0.19-0ubuntu4+svn20060823 (dapper-imbrandon), package size 5714 kB, installed size 10539 kB
[08:01] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:01] <Jucato> hm... maybe I will.. later :-D
[08:02] <Jucato> hehe getting to know more Kubuntu devs... kool! :-D
[08:02] <imbrandon> actualy +svn20060824 is uploading , but the bot only updates every 6 hours
[08:02] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:03] <verbose> now if there were only any supermodels in here, you'd be set
[08:03] <imbrandon> ok dekorator and -plugins added to my todo ;)
[08:03] <Jucato> wow! thanks!!
[08:04] <imbrandon> btw you can always email me ( or other devs ) we dont bite<EMAIL_ADDRESS>;P
[08:04] <danish> how can i tell bash to move all directories except Examples and programming to programming directory in one single line
[08:04] <imbrandon> danish: mv {dir1,dir2} /new/place
[08:05] <verbose> or just `mv a b c d` moves a b and c into d
[08:05] <imbrandon> yea ;)
[08:05] <Jucato> the last argument is always the destination?
[08:05] <verbose> Jucato: yes
[08:05] <danish> i know but instead of type 20 directory names i want to do it with one swoop. testing power of linux
[08:05] <imbrandon> yes
[08:05] <Jucato> oh kool..
[08:05] <crimsun> be aware that {} is a bashism.
[08:06] <verbose> danish: mv * /blah
[08:06] <verbose> mv /blah/Examples .
[08:06] <Jucato> danish: why not test the power of Konqueror? :-D
[08:06] <verbose> that's the easiest way probably
[08:06] <imbrandon> danish: use a regex then but becarefull sounds like with Examples your doing it in your home dir and you dont want to more say .gnupg etc
[08:06] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:06] <danish> mv */blah !Examples & programming ./programming
[08:07] <verbose> danish: you need a scripting language
[08:07] <Jucato> dapper-backports is alive!! it's aliiiive!!!!!! ^_^
[08:07] <verbose> <psuedo code> read in dir names, if name isn't Examples and name isn't programming mv $name programming
[08:07] <danish> imbrandon: i am in my home directory
[08:07] <imbrandon> danish: rm Examples , then mv * /.programing , it will automaticly not move its self into its self ;)
[08:07] <danish> i am learning bash from linuxcommand.org
[08:07] <verbose> haha
[08:08] <Jucato> whoa!! new tabs in KTorrent....
[08:08] <verbose> danish: that sounds like a job for something that starts with p(perl, php, or _python_)
[08:09] <imbrandon> ok i'm off for a bit to finish some things up , ping me later if you need something
[08:09] <Jucato> or something that starts with #! /bin/bash
[08:09] <Jucato> thanks again imbrandon!
[08:09] <imbrandon> Jucato:  i would recomend though usign "all" for you or advanced users insrtead of "amarok"
[08:09] <danish> i was just trying to see if it was possilbe
[08:09] <verbose> Jucato: i'm not sure bash is the right tool for that job, but that's just me and my limited skills
[08:10] <imbrandon> verbose: bash is VERY powerfull if you take the time to learn it fully
[08:10] <verbose> imbrandon: python is too and takes a lot less time probably :P
[08:10] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:10] <verbose> you're right of course
[08:10] <verbose> and bash is on most systems where python might not be
[08:10] <verbose> so it's probably the smarter move
[08:11] <_rince_> sure most jobs are easier in python/perl, but it's a great help to know bash however
[08:11] <_rince_> verbose: ack
[08:11] <verbose> _rince_: it's a great help to know _everything_ but you have to prioritize
[08:11] <verbose> _rince_: rst
[08:12] <Jucato> it's a great help to know a "little" of everything (that you need)
[08:12] <_rince_> and believe it or not, some things (esp. file i/o) is easier with bash using pipes
[08:12] <verbose> and a greater help to know a lot of everything
[08:12] <verbose> _rince_: yeah, there are a lot of things that bash and awk and sed are great for
[08:12] <verbose> i'm not sure this is one of them though
[08:12] <Jucato> but knowing a lot more than a little of everything may not be possible :-D
[08:13] <_rince_> that's kind of philosophical, but understanding shell (not just bash) basiscs comes in handy very often
[08:13] <verbose> Jucato: knowing a little of everything might not be possible depending on your standards
[08:13] <verbose> _rince_: verily
[08:13] <_rince_> verily?
[08:13] <Jucato> yes... but in danish's case... ^_^
[08:13] <Jucato> verily = truly
[08:14] <verbose> wait, i'm confused...which is better in his case...bash? or something else
[08:14] <_rince_> i didn't read the beginning of the conversation ... isn't he trying to move a hand full of diretories in one step?
[08:14] <verbose> it would be easier for _me_ in python or php, but i'm not great at bash scripting
[08:14] <verbose> _rince_: he's trying to move all but 2
[08:14] <Jucato> an added problem would be if he's also trying to move hidden files as well
[08:15] <_rince_> then its bash imo
[08:15] <danish> i did it
[08:15] <verbose> oh, and we're assuming it's not allowed to move all and then just pick out the ones that he didn't want
[08:15] <verbose> Jucato: that's trivial
[08:16] <_rince_> for i in ...; [$i eq ] ; ...; done
[08:16] <verbose> _rince_: $i ne
[08:17] <verbose> well, it could work either way
[08:17] <verbose> more than<PHONE_NUMBER>5872305 ways to skin a cat of course
[08:17] <_rince_> verbose: this was just an example
[08:17] <verbose> yeah
[08:18] <Jucato> whoa! new icon for KTorrent...
[08:18] <danish> i did using this " mv * [!Ep] * programming
[08:19] <danish> it skipped the file with capitol E and small p and move everything else in programming
[08:19] <_rince_> and that was probably the most elegant way
[08:19] <verbose> very nice
[08:19] <danish> not bad for a noob
[08:19] <danish> thx all
[08:19] <Jucato> ehehe
[08:20] <Jucato> not bad at all... in fact it's good :-D
[08:20] <intelikey> [00000268]  skins2 interface error: Cannot open display           svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions.
[08:20] <danish> thx
[08:21] <imbrandon> intelikey: looks like its trying to run as root or a suidroot
[08:21] <intelikey> where is this "I/O permission"  ?
[08:22] <intelikey> imbrandon  you should kill your clone,     i can run it as root.
[08:22] <intelikey> trying to get it to run as user
[08:22] <imbrandon> i'm not gonna kill my clone its another client , and you need to fix the first error to fix the second one
[08:22] <Jucato> oh yeah, it was that clone with the "_" that I thanked earlier...
[08:22] <imbrandon> IE cant open display
[08:22] <danish> it gave me errors of not finding the directories after they were moved when i switched the wild card arguments so that exceptions applied first then moves it worked without error so thats an improvement
[08:23] <imbrandon_> this "clone" is my Laptop ;)
[08:23] <imbrandon_> isnt not a "clone"
[08:23] <intelikey> i know the first error is the second   they are one error.
[08:24] <Jucato> hmm... if it's not a clone.. it's a... um... .... ....
[08:24] <imbrandon> right, it cant open the display, fix that and your golden
[08:24] <intelikey> it bucks tab completion.  so if you don't want people using your nick then run two clients.
[08:24] <intelikey> yeah  like how the hell do you fix it ?>
[08:24] <Jucato> lol
[08:25] <imbrandon> intelikey: thats like asking you to change you name becoue 4 nicks start with "in"
[08:25] <imbrandon> plenty use my name all the time
[08:25] <imbrandon> kthx for you sugestion , please drive though
[08:25] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:25] <Jucato> lol
[08:25] <intelikey> if so just say the word,   im not hard to get along with.
[08:25] <word> eh?
[08:26] <imbrandon> ;) heh anyhow about your problem
[08:26] <Jucato> lol
[08:26] <imbrandon> it looks liek the user trying to run it dosent have permission to output to $DISPLAY
[08:26] <imbrandon> that normaly happens when you run something as root or try to run the wm as root
[08:27] <imbrandon> and the program as another user
[08:27] <intelikey> how can i change that ?    and what is $DISPLAY supposed to be ?
[08:27] <imbrandon> type "xhost +"
[08:27] <intelikey> i'm not in X
[08:27] <imbrandon> then try it
[08:27] <verbose> if you're not in X that could be a problem too :P
[08:27] <imbrandon> well thats the problem then
[08:27] <verbose> seeing as how your app is trying to connect to an X server
[08:27] <imbrandon> its trying to open an X display
[08:27] <intelikey> xhost +
[08:28] <intelikey> xhost:  unable to open display ""
[08:28] <imbrandon> xhost only helps if your running x
[08:28] <verbose> intelikey: that won't do anything if you're not running X
[08:28] <intelikey> it shouldn't be trying for X    it's svgalib
[08:28] <imbrandon> but thats your problem skins2 is trying to open an xdisplay and your not running x ;)
[08:29] <imbrandon> skins2 interface error: Cannot open display   <-- means it connot connect to the x server or x isnt running
[08:29] <imbrandon> cannot*
[08:29] <crimsun> imbrandon: I will punch you the next time I see you advise ``xhost +''
[08:30] <Jucato> ???
[08:30] <crimsun> look at xauth(1x).
[08:30] <imbrandon> crimsun: if they have a firewall it /should/ be ok but your right , not a good idea normaly
[08:30] <crimsun> the relevant options are 'extract' and 'merge'
 imbrandon: I will punch you the next time I see you advise ``xhost +'' <--- that's going to hurt.... ^_^
[08:31] <imbrandon> or better would be "xhost +localhost"
[08:32] <imbrandon> Jucato: its ment to ;) i was wrong in recomending it without telling the security precautions ;)
[08:32] <Jucato> oooh ... baaaad :-D
[08:32] <intelikey> again why would it matter if X isn't running.
[08:33] <imbrandon> it dosent
[08:33] <imbrandon> that was said once you said your not running X
[08:33] <Jucato> (good thing I know nothing about you guys are talking about)
 [00000268]  skins2 interface error: Cannot open display           svgalib: Cannot get I/O permissions.
[08:34] <imbrandon> Jucato: "xhost +" alone will let any client connect to the running x server
[08:34] <imbrandon> normaly BAD
[08:34] <Jucato> whoa... yeah that does sound bad
[08:34] <Jucato> *sigh* need lots to learn about Linux...
[08:34] <intelikey> Jucato trying to get vlc working in this console.   seems only root can use it.  for now.
[08:34] <Jucato> oh
[08:35] <verbose> intelikey: maybe you have to build vlc without X support
[08:35] <verbose> or maybe there's a switch to tell it to not use the gui
[08:36] <intelikey> ive just said it works for root
[08:36] <imbrandon> nah it looks like a svgalib permissions issue now that you say that but i dunno what
[08:36] <verbose> oh, forgot about that
[08:36] <intelikey> the switch is --vout
[08:36] <imbrandon> i konw mplayer works on console via vesa just fine, can vlc use vesa ?
[08:36] <danish> is there undo command in bash
[08:37] <imbrandon> danish: no
[08:37] <danish> imbrandon: how about undelete
[08:37] <intelikey> maybe
[08:37] <Jucato> danish: nope
[08:37] <Jucato> T_T
[08:37] <intelikey> danish depends on what you did
[08:37] <danish> intelikey for example i deleted a file or moved a directory
[08:37] <imbrandon> danish: undelete depends on the file system, proper fs like ext3 actualy DELETE the file unlike windows fs's ;)
[08:37] <imbrandon> so no
[08:37] <intelikey> with some fs   but not many
[08:38] <intelikey> danish deleted on ext3  forget it.  moved.  move it back
[08:38] <danish> thx good to know
[08:39] <intelikey> ext2 can undelete
[08:39] <intelikey> it's the journel that hangs ext3 out on that one
[08:39] <danish> what does ext stands for anyway just curious like ntfs is network file system
[08:40] <intelikey> extended
[08:40] <danish> oh i c thx
[08:40] <imbrandon> nfs is network file system , ntfs is nt file system ;)
[08:40] <intelikey> no ntfs is not network
[08:40] <danish> thats what i read in a book
[08:40] <Jucato[Away] > well, considering what NT means...
[08:41] <imbrandon> heh you might have mis read nfs as ntfs , they are totaly diffrent
[08:41] <danish> what is it
[08:41] <imbrandon> nfs is network file system , ntfs is nt file system ;)
[08:41] <imbrandon> nt == new technology ( from MS )
[08:41] <Jucato[Away] > hehe
[08:41] <intelikey> so write a book that corrects it.
[08:41] <danish> so its new technology file system
[08:41] <danish> l am gonna google it
[08:41] <Jucato[Away] > danish: yep
[08:42] <imbrandon> no ms droped the new tech after nt4 and nt is just nt now
[08:42] <imbrandon> not an abriv
[08:42] <Jucato[Away] > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS
[08:42] <imbrandon> so ntfs is nt file system ;)
[08:42] <danish> u guys stand corrected
[08:42] <Jucato[Away] > ??
[08:42] <danish> i checked out ntfs.com
[08:43] <verbose> is that site reputable?
[08:43] <imbrandon> says the same thing as wiki ? and .......
[08:43] <danish> what is WinFS stands for
[08:43] <imbrandon> i fail to see how that corected US
[08:43] <imbrandon> windows file system
[08:43] <verbose> imbrandon: if it's on the internet it's true
[08:43] <Jucato[Away] > ntfs.com says "NTFS - New Technology File System"
[08:43] <verbose> unless tv contradicts it
[08:43] <imbrandon> verbose: heh
[08:44] <verbose> tv > internet > #kubuntu > *
[08:44] <danish> Windws Storage Subsystem WinFS
[08:44] <intelikey> verbose lol
[08:44] <imbrandon> danish: and this is all relivent how ?
[08:44] <danish> not really relevant just .... extra knowledge
[08:44] <Jucato[Away] > maybe most people presume that the NT of Window NT stands for "net" or network. Considering MS is the one pushing .NET
[08:45] <Healot> WinFS is supposed to be the database underlying for NTFS, but it was hold
[08:45] <imbrandon> ahh ok well in that case google and wikipedia are your friend ;)
[08:45] <imbrandon> danish: ^^
[08:45] <danish> imbrandon: ^^
[08:45] <verbose> no, it's common knowledge that if you're researching blah, you go to blah.com
[08:46] <imbrandon> ?
[08:46] <imbrandon> verbose: heh yea if you want a spin from the creator ;)
[08:46] <verbose> :)
[08:46] <verbose> is whitehouse.com still a porn site?
[08:46] <verbose> i hope so
[08:46] <imbrandon> probably
[08:46] <Healot> yes :-
[08:46] <danish> so how many of peeps here actually helped build kubuntu or ubuntu
[08:47] <Jucato[Away] > helped/helping?
[08:47] <intelikey> well we must admit the maker is likely to know more about it than anyone else.    even if they often show great bias.
[08:47] <danish> kool jucato keep it up
[08:47] <Jucato[Away] > no I'm not
[08:47] <Healot> developers?
[08:47] <Jucato[Away] > I was asking if you were asking who helped start or is still helping...
[08:48] <danish> both
[08:48] <danish> or one
[08:48] <imbrandon> danish: alot , many more than are here atm active in the room at the moment myself and crimsun are pacakge comtributors but many many many hundreds help build the os
[08:48] <Healot> you can whois each one of us, and see if any has members on their hostname
[08:48] <imbrandon> Healot: ;)
[08:48] <intelikey> danish /join #ubuntu+1   read the list.
[08:48] <Jucato[Away] > well, I'm helping in my own small way but not officially in Kubuntu or Ubuntu. I make transcripts for the #ubuntu-classroom classes
[08:49] <imbrandon> yea see ;)
[08:49] <imbrandon> intelikey: heh thats a short list too /me isnt there as arent alot of others that are in *-devel
[08:49] <imbrandon> ;)
[08:49] <danish> i will be helping one day too
[08:49] <imbrandon> anyhow speaking of /me gets back to work
[08:50] <imbrandon> danish: great
[08:50] <Jucato[Away] > hehehe you've been delayed far too long imbrandon
[08:50] <intelikey> i didn't say it was exhostive,  never implied it.  just that several that are there are devels
[08:50] <danish> is there a open source software to write device drivers
[08:51] <Jucato[Away] > danish: you can also help by giving help in the forums or in IRC or in the Mailing List
[08:51] <imbrandon> intelikey: yea just rasin ya a bit, take it with some salt ;)
[08:51] <danish> i think should be a development enviroment and converters to make from windows to linux
[08:51] <imbrandon> danish: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[08:51] <imbrandon> danish: there are plenty already
[08:52] <imbrandon> danish: kdevelop monodevelop just to name two very common ones, there are several dozen depending on the task
[09:05] <[Nige] > anyone know a good multimedia player for kubuntu
[09:05] <[Nige] > or anyone know where I can find a mplayer package for kubuntu
[09:05] <noiesmo> [Nige] , I use mplayer
[09:05] <[Nige] > noiesmo, did you compile from source?
[09:05] <noiesmo> [Nige] , you need universe and multiverse
[09:05] <noiesmo> no
[09:05] <noiesmo> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#
[09:06] <intelikey> !mplayer
[09:06] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile to compile it from source or enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[09:06] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[09:06] <[Nige] > looking niow
[09:07] <SpAwN> !iso
[09:07] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:09] <amjad92> Hola!
[09:15] <DShepherd> anyone know if there's plan for amarok to use gstreamer0.10?
[09:15] <intelikey> i just don't know why users can't run vlc in the console....  i just watched a vidio in vlc console as root ... there is no x server running.        :?
[09:15] <DShepherd> intelikey: sweet
[09:16] <Jucato> DShepherd: I think that depends on the maintainers of the GStreamer back-end for KDE
[09:16] <DShepherd> Jucato: ok.
[09:16] <Jucato> btw, Amarok 1.4.2 and KTorrent 2.0.1 are now available!!
[09:16] <Jucato> and dapper-backports are alive once more
[09:16] <DShepherd> ok...
[09:17] <DShepherd> Jucato: seems that amarok does support gstreamer0.10  as of 1.4
[09:17] <DShepherd> Jucato: i dont know how well though
[09:18] <DShepherd> Jucato: http://websvn.kde.org/tags/amarok/1.4.2/multimedia/amarok/ChangeLog?rev=575607&view=auto -- you can do a search for gstreamer
[09:18] <Jucato> DShepherd: I haven't tried it out yet. but I have 1.4.2 installed. but no gstreamer...
[09:18] <DShepherd> Jucato: ok
[09:19] <DShepherd> neither have I
[09:19] <Jucato> lol
[09:19] <Jucato> I stick to what is there or is easiest to install, unless I really have to install something else..
[09:20] <misieq> !qt-mt
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qt-mt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <misieq> !qt
[09:20] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[09:20] <Jucato> misieq: you looking for libqt3-mt?
[09:20] <intelikey> hmmm this works for root "vlc -f --vout svgalib <filename>"  but for users it says "[00000268]  skins2 interface error: Cannot open display
[09:20] <intelikey> [00000268]  skins2 interface error: Cannot initialize OSFactory
[09:21] <misieq> Jucato: just found it :)
[09:21] <intelikey> from the exact same command   ???
[09:21] <Jucato> ^_^
[09:22] <intelikey> i chmoded /dev/*  hoping i'd hit it by accident....
[09:23] <misieq> !kde
[09:23] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[09:23] <intelikey> anyone know what might be bad perming this thing ?
[09:24] <misieq> !kde-dev
[09:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:24] <Jucato> !kde-devel
[09:24] <ubotu> kde-devel: the K Desktop Environment development files and modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 5:45ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[09:24] <misieq> :)
[09:24] <Jucato> misieq: you can also search for packages without ubotu's help, right there in Konqueror
[09:25] <misieq> yeah... right 40kb. when i checked it to install it sez 72M ;P
[09:25] <Jucato> type "apt:/" in Konqueror, and you'll have a very nice interface for apt-cache and packages.ubuntu.com
[09:25] <intelikey> or the commandline  or the package manager
[09:25] <misieq> Jucato: thanks, would be useful :)
[09:25] <Jucato> i wouldn't use the GUI package managers just to search/browser for packages, unless it were KPackage or Aptitude
[09:26] <misieq> how can i add sysinfo:/ to konqueror as seen in suse 10.1?
[09:26] <intelikey> i wouldn't use the gui
[09:26] <intelikey> :)
[09:26] <Jucato> misieq: it's a SUSE only thing...
[09:26] <Jucato> hm....
[09:26] <Jucato> intelikey: I know you wouldn't :-D
[09:27] <misieq> too bad... i thought it was some kio-slav or what.. :'(
[09:27] <Jucato> well, we can search, can't we? :-D
[09:27] <intelikey> is there a proc:/
[09:27] <Jucato> the apt:/ kio slave is a Kubuntu only thing, btw
[09:27] <intelikey> in konq ?
[09:28] <Jucato> intelikey: eheheh! but even if there were, you wouldn't need/use it anyway :-D
[09:28] <intelikey> i know i wouldn't  :)
[09:29] <Jucato> btw, there isn't one
[09:29] <intelikey> k  just wondering...    there's lots that konq knows.    #blah for example   iirc
[09:30] <Jucato> ehehe
[09:30] <Jucato> it also knows man:/ but not info:/
[09:30] <Jucato> misieq: there might be some good news for you (and me actually)
[09:31] <intelikey> hmmm   $blah   ?
[09:32] <intelikey> i'm going to ##linux for a bit, see if anyone knows what needs chmoded here.
[09:32] <[Nige] > !keyboard
[09:32] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[09:32] <[Nige] > !logitech
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about logitech - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:33] <[Nige] > anyone have a multimedia keyboard?
[09:34] <Jucato> Can't find the answer you are looking for here? Try the forums! http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ and http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[09:36] <Jucato> is it ok to use a DVD Writer as a DVD-ROM and/or a CD-ROM or should it only be used for burning purposes only?
[09:37] <crimsun> you can use it for whatever you want
[09:37] <crimsun> don't be alarmed if it doesn't function as a trash can.
[09:37] <Jucato> thanks! I was told before that CD Writers should only be used for burning, not reading...
[09:37] <Jucato> ehehe! I was hoping it could make me breakfast...
[09:38] <Jucato> Hobbsee!! glad to see you around
[09:38] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato
[09:39] <Jucato> ^_^
[09:39] <Jucato> dapper-backports are up! whoopee! meaning more updated stuff eheheh
[09:39] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yep :)
[09:39] <Hobbsee> Jucato:  i requested a backport of kopete last night
[09:40] <Jucato> yay!
[09:41] <Jucato> anyone here using KDissert?
[09:51] <Jucato>  @_@
[09:53] <INeedHelp> Hi i am new to linux, I wonder if any Packages work like K-Lite Mega Coddec?
[09:54] <aliasfred> what is klite mega coddec
[09:55] <INeedHelp> a codec pack for windows support playing Divx Xvid RM RMVB Qt
[09:55] <aliasfred> !restricted
[09:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:56] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[09:56] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[09:56] <aliasfred> those link would explain to you how to install the codec you need
[09:56] <Jucato> INeedHelp: you wil need libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs
[09:56] <Healot> use the third party codecs
[09:56] <Healot> !w32codecs
[09:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:56] <Jucato> ^_^
[09:56] <Jucato> Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[09:56] <INeedHelp> OH ^^ THNX GUYS ^^
[09:57] <damian> hey guess what
[09:57] <damian> windows vista is coming jan. so that means you guys can stop using linux
[09:57] <INeedHelp> NA ~ Windows SUCKS
[09:57] <aliasfred> ok lets forget the linux vs window war :)
[09:57] <Jucato> hmm....
[09:58] <damian> lol
[09:58] <damian> windows drm edition
[09:58] <michael__> beta
[09:58] <michael__> 2
[09:58] <michael__> lol
[09:59] <INeedHelp> Windows = BSoD
[09:59] <michael__> lookee and new m$ beta release u can pay for....woohoo
[09:59] <damian> webopedia defines a beta as a final state of a microsoft program
[09:59] <aliasfred> one may run the os that fit its need, lets not argue about the merit of each here
[09:59] <Jucato> [AVERTISEMENT]  #kubuntu is for SUPPORT questions, #kubuntu-offtopic is for general Kubuntu, Linux, and anything else under the sky (and possibly anything above the atmosphere as well)
[09:59] <michael__> lol
[09:59] <michael__> now thats funny
[10:00] <Jazon> hi guys and gals :)
[10:00] <damian> Jucato: a little offtopic talk doesn't hurt anyone
[10:00] <michael__> sry - offtopic..
[10:00] <michael__> just couldnt resist the bait
[10:00] <Jucato> tell that to aliasfred
[10:00] <damian> Jucato: who's that guy
[10:00] <INeedHelp> lol
[10:00] <aliasfred> hehe :)
[10:00] <Jazon> i have the i915 in my laptop... running kubuntu dapper... google earth is really messed up... any hints?
[10:00] <Jucato> i'm just trying to advertise the other channel :-D
[10:01] <damian> Jazon: probably because you're using it through wine
[10:01] <Jazon> Jucato: kumusta ka?
[10:01] <Jazon> damian: nope.  linux ver
[10:01] <INeedHelp> btw, anytips for me( new linux user), i am switching windows to linux
[10:01] <damian> Jazon: there is no linux version
[10:01] <Jucato> Jazon: ehehe! just fine :-D
[10:01] <damian> Jazon: any version you downloaded uses the widnwos version+wine
[10:01] <aliasfred> Jazon: i have the same issue, with the same graphic card
[10:01] <Jazon> INeedHelp: sure, gobs... what you need?
[10:01] <aliasfred> damian: there is a google earth for linux
[10:02] <michael__> hmm works for me just fine
[10:02] <aliasfred> Jazon: and i didnt find a solution, nor did i look at it very hard thor :)
[10:02] <Jazon> aliasfred: well, i know it *can* work, 'cause i had it working 100% on another distro :P
[10:02] <aliasfred> Jazon: on the same hardware ?
[10:03] <Jazon> damian: same for picasa2.... granted, they did draw on the wine code, but it is still for linux
[10:03] <Jazon> aliasfred: yes, same laptop.
[10:03] <damian> Jazon: so google actually made a linux version that integrates wine?
[10:03] <aliasfred> Jazon: hmm 'interesting' news... this means a bug in the version somewhere..
[10:03] <Jucato> I thought Picasa was more natively Linux than Google Earth?
[10:03] <INeedHelp> any tips could help^^ ~ trying to get myself ready to linux with usual home usage(like music, DVD, Divx, CD, etc)
[10:04] <Jazon> it is drawing reasonably fast, but it is cropping on the edges and being weird
[10:04] <Jazon> INeedHelp: ok, load kubuntu dapper
[10:04] <aliasfred> INeedHelp: yep, the restristed links i gave you, and install kaffein as video player and amarok as audio player
[10:04] <Jazon> then install an application called Automatix.... (it saves a ton of time and grief)
[10:05] <Jazon> it totally automates all that hard stuff
[10:05] <Jazon> INeedHelp: it is just point and click then for all the codecs, dvd playback, etc etc etc.
[10:05] <Jucato> Automatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[10:06] <Jazon> damian: yes, there is a linux version of google earth, and also picasa2 (which is very nice)
[10:06] <Jazon> INeedHelp: you on a laptop or a desktop?
[10:06] <INeedHelp> desktop
[10:07] <Jazon> INeedHelp: ok, tell me about your hardware
[10:07] <Jazon> also, are you in linux now?
[10:07] <Jucato> !restrictedformats
[10:07] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:07] <INeedHelp> old P4 1.6GHz  1G ram , 9600XT
[10:08] <Jucato> that page has the instructions you would need
[10:08] <Jucato> Automatix: http://www.getautomatix.com/ || EasyUbuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[10:08] <Jucato> those two tools can make it easier for you
[10:08] <INeedHelp> yes i am in kubuntu
[10:09] <INeedHelp> but i can't install the system in raid0 T_T
[10:14] <INeedHelp> i can't find libxine-extracodecs
[10:15] <Jucato> INeedHelp: you need to have multiverse enabled
[10:15] <Jucato> Need to enable "universe" and/or "multiverse"? See this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:16] <INeedHelp> i enable already
[10:16] <INeedHelp> enabled
[10:17] <Dwaf> Hi, people!
[10:17] <INeedHelp> hi
[10:17] <Jucato> INeedHelp: could you check again if the line where you added "multiverse" to is "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe"?
[10:18] <Jazon> INeedHelp: why not just install automatix?
[10:18] <Jazon> it does all this for you mate
[10:18] <Jazon> it is seriously easy
[10:20] <INeedHelp> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/   dapper-backports   main restricted universe multiverse
[10:20] <INeedHelp> OK let me try
[10:20] <Jazon> INeedHelp:  http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_with_Apt
[10:21] <Jucato> INeedHelp: no not that
[10:21] <Jucato> wrong line...
[10:21] <Jazon> Jucato: why?
[10:21] <Jazon> is he not running dapper?
[10:21] <Jucato> I was talking about the line where he added multiverse...
[10:22] <Jazon> Jucato: oh.  but automatix does all of this automatically.... why not keep it simple?
[10:26] <INeedHelp> OH ~
[10:26] <INeedHelp> wrong line XD
[10:26] <INeedHelp> let me install both libxine and auto ^^
[10:28] <Jucato> careful though with Automatix. just check what you really need...
[10:30] <INeedHelp> careful ?
[10:30] <INeedHelp> it will kill the system?
[10:31] <Jucato> nope
[10:31] <Jucato> I just remember someone havng a bit of trouble because he instructed Automatix to install drivers for both NVIDIA and ATI
[10:32] <INeedHelp> don't see ATI driver XD
[10:33] <INeedHelp> where are you guys form ,btw?
[11:06] <peterz> any way I can get a recent xorg on my edgy install?
[11:07] <peterz> btw, could an ubuntu op ping me
[11:08] <eeos> hi there. after last upgrade of xorg-core kde is slower and behaves strangely
[11:08] <eeos> anyone with similar problems?
[11:09] <peterz> eeos: edgy, I'll know in a bit, upgrading now
[11:09] <eeos> peterz are you moving to edgy? why?