[00:09] <dark> hey, is there a program that finds drivers for u automatically?
[00:10] <dark> ?
[00:11] <dark> !drivers
[00:11] <dark> !wireless
[00:15] <NickPresta> dark, what sort of drivers?
[00:15] <dark> well i just found my wifi drivers
[00:15] <dark> !version
[00:15] <dark> !shell lsb_release -a
[00:15] <ubuntu__> http://orange.fr
[00:15] <dark> oops
[00:16] <NickPresta> ubuntu__, don't spam :)
[00:17] <dark> NickPresta: can u help me get my wireless up and runnign?
[00:17] <NickPresta> dark, what have you done so far and what do you need help with?
[00:18] <dark> i just installed kubuntu, hardy
[00:18] <dark> and thats it
[00:18] <NickPresta> dark, okay. if your wireless supported or do you have to use Windows drivers and ndiswrapper?
[00:19] <dark> the docs say its supported
[00:19] <NickPresta> which driver or device is it?
[00:19] <dark> BCM94311
[00:19] <dark> thts the device according to kinfocenter
[00:21] <NickPresta> dark, in the terminal, type: lspci and find the line that says Network Controller: Broadcom ...
[00:22] <dark> Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI
[00:22] <ofv> Hi. My net connection goes slow. Pingin'g some other machine on my LAN gives approx. 0.300 ms. Web browsing is very slow.
[00:22] <ofv> How can I diagnose the problem?
[00:24] <htfg> Just wondering, if there's any generic help channel, where you can ask qns about other freenode channels?
[00:24] <htfg> you can ask qns = talk about
[00:25] <NickPresta> dark, which computer do you have?
[00:26] <dark> dell inspiron
[00:26] <dark> 6400
[00:27] <NickPresta> dark, it looks like http://ph.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?s=0ebe130f8ac2f214f9fd54b6fbf69532&t=769990 will work for you
[00:27] <NickPresta> although that isn't the most elegant solution
[00:30] <dark> k i will try it
[00:30] <dark> thanks
[00:30] <Dragnslcr> htfg- #freenode maybe?
[00:41] <_2> anyone know a good use for a spare computer?
[00:41] <NickPresta> _2, server farm? F@H or something similar? *shrugs*
[00:42] <_2> farm ?
[00:43] <NickPresta> i suppose it wouldn't be much of a farm if it is just one spare computer though
[00:43] <_2> yeah.  ;/
[00:44] <knusperfrosch> hi!
[00:44] <NickPresta> !hi | knusperfrosch
[00:45] <knusperfrosch> wanted to install kubuntu to my multi-distro-pc and the installer warns me that /boot will be overwritten. should i have chosen the alternate cd?
[00:46] <_2> NickPresta F@H over a dialup connection ?      not like that would help really... more likely to slow things down isn't it?
[00:46] <NickPresta> _2, no idea. I don't have many spare (working) computers to play around with. :)
[00:47] <_2> :)
[00:47] <knusperfrosch> _2: F@H isn't that bandwidth intense
[00:47] <_2> no?
[00:47] <_2> ok.
[00:47] <knusperfrosch> nope
[00:48] <NickPresta> I thought it did all the intensive stuff on your computer then at intervals uploads the results.
[00:48] <_2> knusperfrosch probably
[00:48] <knusperfrosch> _2: used it for years on 2 PCs with ISDN
[00:49] <_2> knusperfrosch to your question,  not to my topic.   you should probably have used the alternate install cd and carefully selected how to boot the thing.  even possabley not installing any new boot loader
[00:50] <_2> knusperfrosch isdn is fast though
[00:51] <knusperfrosch> _2: well finally switched from ISDN to 30MBit, felt like a stonage-guy who found a time-machine...
[00:51] <Guest90134> Hi I am having trouble viewing youtube videos
[00:52] <_2> yeah but...  i mean, i get a full pipe for several minutes just opening the 404 page :/
[00:52] <NickPresta> Guest90134, whats the trouble
[00:52] <maennj> hi guys
[00:52] <Guest90134> I do not see any videos on youtube
[00:52] <NickPresta> Guest90134, do you have flash installed?
[00:52] <Guest90134> I did yesterday
[00:52] <knusperfrosch> Guest90134: which browser?
[00:52] <NickPresta> Which browser?
[00:52] <NickPresta> heh
[00:52] <Guest90134> yes I do should I reinstallit?
[00:52] <maennj> I'm having problem connecting to wireless network using knetworkmanager in kubuntu 8.10
[00:53] <Guest90134> firefox
[00:53] <maennj> it simply doesn't connect, I don't get any notification messages or anything
[00:53] <NickPresta> !intrepid | maennj
[00:53] <maennj> k thx
[00:53] <NickPresta> Guest90134, in firefox, type: about:plugins and see that it recognizes flash
[00:53] <knusperfrosch> Guest90134: open "about:plugins" in firefox and watch out for flash
[00:53] <knusperfrosch> damn
[00:54] <Guest90134> ok one sec
[00:54] <marcelo> #brasil
[00:54] <Denise> business
[00:54] <NickPresta> !pt | marcelo
[00:55]  * Guest42798 sips his coffee'
[00:55] <Guest42798> Hmm
[00:56] <NickPresta> heh. Identity crisis?
[00:57] <Denise> lol
[00:57] <genii> NickPresta: I hadn't used Konversation yet on this install so it of course could not know my default identity, etc etc :)
[00:57] <Guest90134> Interesting it says I have "shockwave flash" and "futuresplash player" But I don't see adobe at all in the browser..
[00:58] <knusperfrosch> Guest90134: you wont see adobe there
[00:58] <Denise> what about flashing future
[00:58] <Guest90134> ok
[00:58] <_2> what can be done to determine what is causing this ?   tty24<EMAIL_ADDRESS>deallocvt 23
[00:58] <_2> VT_DISALLOCATE: Device or resource busy
[00:58] <Guest90134> no I just see future splash
[00:58] <knusperfrosch> Guest90134: application/x-shockwave-flash | Shockwave Flash is what you should see
[00:59] <Guest90134> yes I see that one
[01:00] <Guest90134> sometimes I have video sometimes I don't but it seems to have gotten worse today
[01:00] <Denise> oh no
[01:01] <_2> the process seems to "time out" after a few minutes.  but there is no listing in the process table for anything running in tty23.    i'm at a loss for what is keeping the twenty third console open...
[01:02] <_2> somebody doesn't know either ?
[01:02] <Denise> I'll be back
[01:03] <Denise> I thought u were kidding me
[01:03] <Denise> gya
[01:03] <Denise> cya
[01:03] <Guest90134> Denise why did you say oh no?
[01:03] <Denise> it have gotten worse today?
[01:03] <Guest90134> yes
[01:03] <maennj> question that might sounds silly, how do I search in apt-get :) ?
[01:04] <Denise> why?
[01:04] <_2> maennj use apt-cache
[01:04] <maennj> _2 thx
[01:04] <Guest90134> just wondering why you said it
[01:04] <_2> maennj something like    apt-cache -n search vlc      for example
[01:05] <maennj> ok
[01:06] <maennj> does it apt-cache search online too ?
[01:06] <_2> maennj also aptitude can do that,   aptitude search vlc     but i don't personally like aptitude even if the people in #debian sware by it.
[01:06] <maennj> :)
[01:07] <maennj> I'll try it
[01:07] <_2> maennj no.  only your package cache (list of all avalable package from your listed repositories)
[01:07] <maennj> ah ok
[01:07] <_2> in asnwer to your Q    ^
[01:07] <_2> answer even
[01:09] <_2> one reason that i have never liked aptitude was re-manafested to me a few days ago.   i was trying to remove python* from a debian system and aptitude can't do it.   apt-get does it just fine.
[01:11] <_2> in fact attempting to remove almost any lib via aptitude command line is impossable.   it will only remove something that has dependancies if you are both willing and able to install a replacement/s     sad that it can't just take with it the dependant packages like apt can.
[01:14] <maennj> but how can I search on online sources ?
[01:15] <_2> maennj ?   google ?
[01:15] <_2> maennj what online source are you refering to?
[01:16] <maennj> -.-, I thought apt-get provides some kind of online sources. I used slapt-get in slackware before which had online repositories
[01:17] <_2> !repos | maennj
[01:17] <maennj> cool that's it, thanks :)
[01:18] <tightdrunken> anyone figure out wireless with unbuntu?
[01:18] <_2> repeting ...  maennj no.  only your package cache (list of all avalable package from your listed repositories)  <<< those are "assumed" to be "online"    (bad assumption i know)
[01:18] <tightdrunken> i'm  a newbie
[01:18] <_2> !wifi | tightdrunken
[01:19] <tightdrunken> wicked thanks
[01:20] <maennj> _2 k thanks
[01:21] <_2> ubuntu is an "online" distrobution of GNU/Linux    anyone not "online" should actually probably use something else.
[01:25] <tightdrunken> i'm running ultimate edition harty hotrod 1.8
[01:33] <S|DE-k|CK> hi all
[01:44] <Denise> calvino
[01:44] <Denise> resistance
[01:45] <nikami> hey everyone. how's it going.
[01:46] <S|DE-k|CK> hi all
[01:51] <Denise> keyring
[01:57] <Denise> married allowed only
[02:00] <Denise> or the contrary
[02:01] <Denise> u forget that part
[02:01] <Denise> it is hell
[02:05] <favro> Denise: whatever you're on can I have a couple?
[02:09] <Denise> lol
[02:09] <Denise> I m on red coals
[02:14] <BluesKaj> howdy
[02:15] <sea_> What's the keyboard shortcut to cancel fullscreen mode in konqueror?
[02:16] <sea_> I got away with fluxbox's ALT+click moving thing, but these huge fullscreen windows keep flopping around.
[02:16] <Denise> ok
[02:17] <artur_> what program could i use to convert mp3 files. I have one of rate 320 kbps and i'd like to convert to 128 kbps
[02:19] <BluesKaj> why ...128 sounds like crap
[02:23] <Denise> okay
[02:24] <Denise> lol
[02:24] <Denise> u play ur movie again
[02:25] <joshuajtl> hmm sorry to ask, noone responding in kubuntu-kde4,  anyone know if amarok and konqueror are broken in kubuntu kde 4.1.1 ?
[02:26] <Denise> lol
[02:26] <Denise> i must be really crazy
[02:27] <Denise> dont play sarcasms with me
[02:27] <Denise> I m sensitive
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> Denise: who are you talking to
[02:28] <Denise> i dont know
[02:28] <Denise> the movie producer
[02:28] <Denise> prolly
[02:29] <Daisuke_Ido> well, since there's no one like that here...
[02:29] <Daisuke_Ido> if you have a question relating to kubuntu, ask away.
[02:29] <Denise> oh
[02:29] <Denise> I m in the wrong room then
[02:29] <Denise> please keep on to talk gentlemen
[02:30] <Denise> I m quitting
[02:38] <favro> sea_: in fluxbox you can right click the window title bar for an app and select remember-dimensions+position+save on close   and it will open at that size next time
[02:39] <Denise> sounds good
[02:40] <sea_> favro: In fullscreen there are no title bars!
[02:40] <Denise> is the sight good?
[02:40] <mneptok> Denise: noapte buna.
[02:41] <sea_> I managed to close it with that 'taskbar' like thing. I'll just remember not to use fullscreen again.
[02:41] <Denise> do you see the sea
[02:41] <favro> sea_: it always starts that way?
[02:41] <Denise> lol
[02:41] <Denise> rofl
[02:42] <mneptok> Denise: this channel is for support with Kubuntu. please use #ubuntu-offtopic for idle chatter.
[02:42] <sea_> nah,I just accidentaly hit shift+ctrl+f
[02:42] <sea_> It starts normal sized.
[02:42] <favro> k :)
[02:43] <favro> sea_: if fullscreen apps are too big you might have to fix your display
[02:45] <sea_> favro: I'm pretty sure that my display is the right size, nothing gets cut off or anything, my wallpapers fit well.
[02:46] <favro> sea_: it was only a thought :)
[02:47] <psycholic> anyone know of a good iso burning software besides k3b
[02:47] <sea_> By the way, is aMSN working yet? There was something preventing it from connecting last time I checked.
[02:47] <favro> !burn
[02:48] <psycholic> brasero is the one i wanted but i think i can get it out of the repo or can i  looks like i need to load adept
[02:49] <favro> !brasero
[02:49] <favro> !info brasero
[02:49] <psycholic> got it thanks
[02:49] <psycholic> it was in the repo
[02:50] <favro> :)
[02:50] <psycholic> god i love linux
[02:50] <Daisuke_Ido> psycholic: why in god's name would you take clunky brasero over k3b?
[02:50] <Daisuke_Ido> just curious
[02:50] <Daisuke_Ido> brasero's quirks make me want to hit someone every time i have to use it
[02:51] <psycholic> well i downloaded a iso and the auther said thats what he used ohhh sorry did not work with k3b if it was me thats what i use
[02:51] <Daisuke_Ido> my favourite one is that you can't just click and drag something to the project, no, you have to click to select it, THEN click and drag it.  that's p'd me off a few times now
[02:51] <Daisuke_Ido> err...  if it's an iso, you can burn it with anything...
[02:51] <favro> !md5
[02:51] <Daisuke_Ido> at least, if the author did it right
[02:52] <psycholic> yeah i thats what i said i'm doing this just to  thow it back in his face and say hey you messed up now fess up to it
[02:54] <psycholic> well going to see if we get any errors
[03:13] <matt__> I am new to konversation and wanted to ask for some help with apt-get
[03:13] <_2> who here knows all about sd cards ?
[03:13] <_2> matt__ so what's stopping you ?
[03:14] <matt__> sorry didn't know if there is a specific spot I needed to go to :)
[03:14] <_2> !ask
[03:15] <matt__> so I just installed a package but didn't think I needed it so I did apt-get remove and it started removing a ton of my programs. is there some sort of undo command?
[03:15] <Boxici> i need som help
[03:15] <_2> matt__ heh. no.  but you can easily reinstall what you want.   also adept is a GUI for that
[03:16] <_2> matt__ what package was it ?
[03:16] <matt__> yeah I know. i am trying to install acroread but it is broken. I tried installing the file that it said was broken and kind of went down a rabbit hole. Anyway I was tring to remove what I had installed and ended up removing a ton of my packages
[03:17] <matt__> sudo apt-get remove slapd libldap-2.4-2
[03:17] <_2> matt__ sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   <<< that should keep the system usable.
[03:18] <_2> matt__ and   sudo apt-get install acroread    should do the rest.
[03:19] <_2> !acroread
[03:19] <_2> !info acroread
[03:19] <matt__> okay I think i will just try doing apt-get install and then listing every package it said it was going to remove that I should have read in the first place ;)
[03:19] <_2> oh!
[03:19] <_2> !info acroread
[03:19] <_2> well it did in dapper...
[03:20] <_2> did/does
[03:20] <favro> !find acroread
[03:20] <favro> it's in medibuntu
[03:20] <_2> an and the bot is ignorant to medibuntu repos
[03:21] <psycholic> !info kpdf
[03:21] <_2> !medibuntu | matt__ see this link please
[03:21] <psycholic> thats what i use
[03:21] <matt__> okay thanks!
[03:22] <_2> !info xpdf
[03:22] <_2> psycholic ^ here.
[03:22] <psycholic> lol better?
[03:22] <_2> no  just not kde dependant
[03:22] <_2> i also use blackbox
[03:22] <_2> !info blackbox
[03:23] <psycholic> can i apt get that?
[03:23] <_2> if you can't you are at the right place   :)))
[03:24] <_2> err i mean yes.
[03:24] <psycholic> got it installing right now
[03:24] <psycholic> ;)
[03:25] <psycholic> well its install just got to power down
[03:26] <Denise> yep
[03:26] <Denise> power down
[03:26] <_2> power down   for what ?
[03:26] <psycholic> well logout and in
[03:26] <_2> oh   :)
[03:27] <psycholic> but i can't right now forgot i was burning a iso
[03:27] <psycholic> well off to the tv my other love :^)
[03:27] <_2> how sad
[03:28] <_2> i mean how true
[03:28] <Denise> lol
[03:28] <_2> how true....     sorry bad english you know.
[03:28] <Denise> ciao
[03:30] <_2> anyone know some about sd cards ?     seeing that no expert stepped up...
[03:31] <matt__> so how do I know what version of kubuntu I have?
[03:32] <_2> i have two sdcards that used to work in digital camera.  but now if either is in the camera i can't mount the camera.      and i have even used both the camera and a friends pc to format the cards but it changed nothing.
[03:32] <_2> matt__   lsb-release -a
[03:32] <_2> matt__   lsb_release -a
[03:32] <_2> sorry.
[03:32] <matt__> thank you
[03:33] <_2> -r for only the release version
[03:33] <favro> _2: how are you trying to mount them?
[03:33] <_2> favro mount /dev/sda /mnt
[03:33] <_2> same way i do if the card is not in the camera.
[03:34] <favro> tried mount /dev/sda1 /mnt?
[03:34] <_2> why would it change ?
[03:34] <_2> camera mounts fine when no sd card is in it.
[03:35] <_2> also i have tried a partition and no joy
[03:35] <favro> I always thought we mount partitions not drives...
[03:35] <favro> does it show in   sudo fdisk -l   ?
[03:35] <_2> no.  we mount file systems.  not partitions nor drives
[03:36] <matt__> okay so I have medibuntu but now it says that acroread has no installation candidate. What should I do now? It shows I am using that in adept
[03:37] <_2> favro http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d22ecfba7
[03:37] <_2> matt__ did you   sudo apt-get update   ?
[03:38] <matt__> yea I did.
[03:38] <_2> matt__ apt-cache search acroread
[03:38] <favro> _2: is the sd using ntfs?
[03:39] <_2> favro heh i hope not.
[03:39] <matt__> okay I did that and nothing happened
[03:39] <favro> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt
[03:39] <_2> favro no.  it's vfat.
[03:40] <_2> mount /dev/sda /mnt/disk  ;mount | grep sda << yelds >>  /dev/sda on /mnt/disk type vfat (rw,nodiratime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp
[03:41] <_2> and the card is not in the camera   is the reason i can mount it.   when it's in there  the mount command hangs.
[03:41] <favro> so when it is in the camera what does   sudo fdisk -l   tell?
[03:41] <_2> same output
[03:42] <_2> the pastebin
[03:42] <favro> hmm
[03:42] <_2> yeah me too
[03:42] <favro> see if mount -v gives a clue
[03:42] <matt__> the apt-cache search acroread didn't do anything except go down a line. not sure what that means
[03:42] <_2> where ?  with the card installed ?   @ favro ?
[03:43] <_2> matt__ means it didn't find anything.
[03:43] <favro> where mount just hangs - when it is in the camera
[03:43] <_2> matt__ you followed the instructions on the page ?
[03:44] <matt__> yeah. it was pretty easy. just copy and paste. it shows up in the adept in manage repositories, medibuntu that is.
[03:44] <_2> favro you mean in another console or add -v to try to see where it hangs ?    i'll check both  but i'm just trying to see what you are fishing for.   and can you help matt__ with arcoread please.
[03:45] <favro>  mount -v /dev/sda /mnt
[03:45] <_2> k
[03:45] <favro> !medibuntu
[03:45] <favro> matt__: using hardy?
[03:46] <matt__> what does !medibuntu mean? I am confused by the exclamation mark. and yes, Hardy
[03:46] <_2> !bot | matt__
[03:46] <favro> http://packages.medibuntu.org/hardy/index.html shows acroread
[03:47] <matt__> okay, I will try removing it and the key and trying again.
[03:47] <favro> matt__: and you're sure you ran this command? - sudo wget http://www.medibuntu.org/sources.list.d/hardy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[03:50] <matt__> yes. I just retried it and now I have this message:
[03:50] <matt__> GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org hardy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[03:50] <matt__> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:50] <matt__> and I ran the command for the key too. not sure what to do
[03:50] <matt__> and I ran an update
[03:51] <favro> matt__: further down it says to add the gpg key - sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[03:51] <favro> k
[03:51] <favro> matt__: try it again
[03:51] <matt__> I just ran that command again and I get the same message
[03:52] <favro> matt__: is it asking if you want to continue without the key?
[03:52] <cgentry72> I just installed kde 4.1 in ubuntu and was wondering how I change the window decorations because mine looks like windows 3.1
[03:52] <matt__> no it just goes back to the command prompt and stops
[03:53] <favro> cgentry72: try in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:54] <favro> !kde4
[03:54] <_2> note.  the "warning blah blah blah"  does not keep it from installing.
[03:54] <_2> @ favro and matt__   ^
[03:54] <favro> :)
[03:55] <favro> matt__: try this -     *
[03:55] <favro>       With your favourite web browser, go to http://packages.medibuntu.org/.
[03:55] <favro>     * Choose the Ubuntu version you're currently using.
[03:55] <favro>     * Find the package for your architecture in the listing, and save it to your personal directory on your hard drive. You may need to also download any dependencies that are also in medibuntu.
[03:55] <favro>     * Right click on the package you just downloaded.
[03:55] <favro>     * Select Ubuntu Package Menu.
[03:55] <favro>     * Choose Install Package.
[03:55] <matt__> okay it seems to be working now. thanks for all the help. got to go. the wife is calling :)
[03:56] <favro> k luck
[04:01] <_2> i wish i had an sd card slot on something besides a camera.....
[04:02] <favro> did mount -v help  at all?
[04:02] <_2> not yet.   not an option right now.  had to move that to the back burner.
[04:02] <favro> k :)
[04:02] <_2> i can still wish tho
[04:03]  * _2 can both wish and expect
[04:04]  * favro always espouses the benefits of crossed fingers :)
[04:04] <surgy> hello
[04:04]  * _2 points out that wish and expect are commands...
[04:05] <_2> surgy yes hi
[04:05] <_2> !info expect
[04:05] <surgy> can someone recomend a dvd authoring program that will allow me to burn avi files to blank dvd media and make it playable in a regular dvd player?
[04:06] <_2> !dvd | surgy
[04:06] <favro> _2: I didn't know that haha :)
[04:06] <surgy> no no
[04:06] <surgy> I can play dvds fine
[04:06] <_2> surgy dvdauthor
[04:06] <Taggnostr> hello
[04:07] <surgy> i want to be able to write video files to a dvd that is then playable on a standard tv type dvd player
[04:07] <_2> surgy the later ^ k9copy was the intended portion
[04:07] <favro> !info devede
[04:07] <surgy> _2: thank you may you have many luaghs
[04:08] <Taggnostr> is there some program that allows me to edit an existing pdf file? like writing things, draw some lines, circle and other basic things?
[04:08] <_2> !info dvdauthor | surgy lets try this one more time
[04:09] <surgy> thanks once again
[04:09] <Taggnostr> !pdf
[04:10] <_2> Taggnostr i normally would export it to something other than pdf   but i don't like pdf anyway.   however i think evence might
[04:10] <Taggnostr> what other format do you suggest?
[04:10] <_2> ps
[04:11] <Taggnostr> what do I need to convert a psf in ps, edit it and possibly convert it back in pdf?
[04:11] <Taggnostr> pdf*
[04:11] <_2> nothing   just print it to a postscript file
[04:11]  * SkEmO goes away
[04:12] <Taggnostr> let's see
[04:12] <_2> you can later print back to a pdf if you like
[04:13] <_2> well   "nothing"   is not accurate.  what i mean is everything should already be in place.
[04:13] <_2> !oo.org
[04:13] <_2> !dumb bot
[04:14] <stdin> !ooo | _2
[04:14] <Taggnostr> what can I use to edit a ps?
[04:14] <Taggnostr> !ps
[04:16] <ign0ramus> http://www.ps2pdf.com/
[04:17] <Taggnostr> I already have the pdf (and now the ps too), I need a way to edit it
[04:18] <ign0ramus> !pdfedit
[04:18] <ign0ramus> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfedit
[04:19] <stdin> flpsed or pdfedit, both in the repos
[04:24] <intelikey> mc can't change dirs into
[04:24] <intelikey>
[04:24] <intelikey> anyone know a way to get there ?
[04:25] <intelikey> heh  mkdir \
[04:25] <intelikey>
[04:29] <intelikey> it seems that mc is totally useless in dealing with dirname \n
[04:31] <intelikey> it's also interesting that ls calls it "?"
[04:34] <seba> !es
[04:35] <intelikey> dir name == '
[04:35] <intelikey> '
[04:35] <intelikey> is most interesting.  i'm not sure what it's useful for yet...
[04:43] <intelikey> how to put literal tab char in console ?
[04:45] <surgy> how many gb does a standard dvd hold? 4.7 ?
[04:46] <intelikey> 4
[04:46] <surgy> im looking for a semi precise number if you dont mind
[04:50] <favro> surgy: 4.3G is pretty safe mostly sometimes maybe
[04:52] <intelikey> favro you may be right  i read , and it seems he was asking . insted.   ;/
[04:52] <intelikey> oops.
[04:53] <favro> hehe :)
[04:53] <intelikey> 4,7 != 4.7?
[04:53] <tacosarecool> Hello
[04:53] <tacosarecool> I've got this weird glitch
[04:54] <intelikey> dropping in irc channels and saying that ?
[04:54] <tacosarecool> Where sometimes I boot and I hear a boot up sound that's how I know skype and flash sound would work
[04:54] <intelikey> oh
[04:55] <tacosarecool> And for some reason my flash sound just stopped I probably need to restart the computer
[04:55] <tacosarecool> But it's annoying doing that
[04:55] <tacosarecool> Amarok sound works no matter what
[04:57] <tacosarecool> Any Ideas?
[04:58] <tacosarecool> Please
[05:01] <tacosarecool> Ah
[05:01] <tacosarecool> Flash sound is broke until I restart
[05:02] <intelikey> tacosarecool weren't you asking the same thing a week ago ?
[05:02] <tacosarecool> I don't remember
[05:02] <intelikey> it still sounds like a race condition to me.
[05:02] <tacosarecool> I was asking a long time ago I think
[05:02] <tacosarecool> Race Condition?
[05:03] <intelikey> yes but that doesn't mean i can fix it for you.
[05:03] <tacosarecool> I know
[05:03] <tacosarecool> I was hoping there was someone who could help in here but I guess not yet well for this issue
[05:04] <tacosarecool> And I don't think that flash 10 will help me
[05:04] <tacosarecool> Because I get the issue with skype also
[05:04] <tacosarecool> Wait skype sound is working
[05:04] <tacosarecool> How weird
[05:04] <tacosarecool> Oops
[05:04] <tacosarecool> I didn't have the sound turned up on youtube
[05:04] <tacosarecool> Lol
[05:05] <tacosarecool> Bye
[05:05] <favro> heheha hands up who hasn't done that :)
[05:05] <intelikey> every one wants a system to post as quickly as possable.   but sometimes a second delay at the right point can prevent "race condtions" from making the boot process a "hit and miss" lotory...
[05:06] <intelikey> favro you poll failed.   no one responded   ;/
[05:07] <favro> intelikey: I couldn't see raised hands even if my poll worked :)
[05:07] <intelikey> ^
[05:07] <intelikey> i can't see lowered hands tho
[05:07] <intelikey> v
[05:07] <intelikey> oh there it is.
[05:08] <intelikey> <
[05:08] <intelikey> >
[05:08] <favro> hehe
[05:09] <intelikey> one thing i have found about irc.   "first smart elic hasn't a chance, someone can always top that..."
[05:09] <intelikey> first .* hasn't
[05:10] <intelikey> is it a full moon or what ?   the wirdoz are out in full force today
[05:13] <intelikey> "'hellians, they are.'   i say 'hellians, everyone of them.'"
[05:19] <Daisuke_Ido> is there a quick way to convert all filenames in a directory to lowercase?
[05:21] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido for q in * ;do mv "$q" "`echo "$q" | tr "[A-Z]" "[a-z]" `" ;done   # you might test that some place safe.
[05:21] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: i actually found a classy solution :)
[05:21] <Daisuke_Ido> for i in `find * -depth`; do (mv $i `echo $i|tr [:upper:] [:lower:]`); done
[05:22] <snowman> hi room is there anyone?
[05:22] <intelikey> fails with ; done   but same thing.
[05:23] <intelikey> err actually it doesn't fail there.  but  it's because it's not quoted.  and so fails on all names with spaces
[05:23] <vbgunz> when you say su at the command line, is there a default password? I am using my password that works with sudo but it never works for su... the password is always wrong. is there a default? if not, can I reset it?
[05:24] <intelikey> actually mine may fail with spaces too.
[05:26] <intelikey> vbgunz there is no root password unless you set one.
[05:26] <intelikey> !sudo | vbgunz
[05:26] <vbgunz> su: Authentication failure
[05:26] <intelikey> vbgunz there is no root password unless you set one.   read the page  ^
[05:26] <vbgunz> I am just typing su at $ ... it ask for a password, I must have set it and forgotten it :(
[05:26] <intelikey> vbgunz there is no root password unless you set one.   read the page  ^
[05:27] <intelikey> or keep typing in here..... but you'll learn faster reading the page.
[05:27] <clusby> vbgunz: I think you want 'sudo -s'
[05:27] <intelikey> -i
[05:28] <intelikey> but actually he wants knowledge.
[05:29] <Taggnostr> hello, I'm searching a program to edit pdf or ps files, do you know something?
[05:30] <intelikey> ooo
[05:30] <Taggnostr> I tried to open the pdf with writer but it only show the source
[05:30] <vbgunz> I thought I had su to root... actually, I just wanted to check if I could switch to root cause truth is, I am trying to login as another user... I am trying to log a user out without actually switching over to there account. I found skill but that tells me to check killall, etc
[05:31] <Taggnostr> same with the ps
[05:31] <Taggnostr> is there a way to import them directly from ooo? I just did open with -> ooo
[05:33] <intelikey> vbgunz sudo username kill -9 -1
[05:33] <intelikey> not clean but forceful
[05:33] <vbgunz> yeah I saw that but question does it do it safely? I don't just want to kill the user. I'd like to log them out.
[05:33] <Taggnostr> I also searched with the adept manager but I can't find anything
[05:34] <Taggnostr> I just need to write some text on a pdf or ps file
[05:34] <Taggnostr> or also export it in any format that allow me to do that
[05:34] <intelikey> vbgunz it's kinda hard to excort a user to the door without a fight, if they don't want to go.   so either ask them  to logout or, pitch their butts out in the street      so to speak.
[05:35] <intelikey> escort maybe
[05:36] <Taggnostr> any ideas?
[05:36] <vbgunz> intelikey: heh, it's my 3 year old boy... I do want to kick him into the street but don't think authorities would like the excuse 'he forgot to log out of the linux box'... I forgive him and thought I look into it... well, not like he is working on IDs Rage or something... I'll find out in the morning :)
[05:36] <Jordan_U> How can I remove what seems to be the gnome network-manager applet from the KDE 4.1 panel ?
[05:37] <intelikey> vbgunz heh.  yeah my examples were to be taken in a vertual way ya know :)
[05:38] <favro> !kde4 | Jordan_U
[05:38] <intelikey> with any luck someone in   #kubuntu-kde4   will tell you Jordan_U
[05:38] <Jordan_U> intelikey: Thanks
[05:39] <Taggnostr> it seems I have to do a screenshot of the page and use gimp :\
[05:39] <intelikey> vbgunz there is a program that will automaticly logout any user that is idle for X amount of time...  you might look into that.
[05:39] <vbgunz> I am curious. I am still on 3.5.9. does KDE 4* have any kind of parental controls at all?
[05:40] <intelikey> vbgunz i really don't know.   ask in   #kubuntu-kde4
[05:40] <vbgunz> I am itching a bit for an upgrade. I am reading plenty of great stories about KDE 4 ... I thought I wait it out though and do have years of work on the system
[06:28] <jdcnyc> l
[06:31] <intelikey>
[06:40] <intelikey> reboot will fix anything      ;/
[07:18] <illmortal_> uhm.. can someone help me?... I installed Kubuntu 8.04.1 and during the installation I receieved an error.
[07:19] <illmortal_> and now I cannot log into kubuntu, I'm using the Live CD
[07:19] <matt__> Hi, does anyone know how to get gnash working in Konqueror?
[07:19] <matt__> i dont want to install flash, and I want to use youtube!
[07:22] <illmortal_> Anyone?
[07:23] <favro> illmortal_: hard to say if anyone can help not knowing the error
[07:23] <illmortal_> well.. how would I check the system log?
[07:23] <illmortal_> wouldn't it show the error in there? :X
[07:27] <favro> illmortal_: /var/log is where the logs are - depending on the prob Xorg.0.log might be a start
[07:33] <andres_> hi
[07:34] <favro> hi andres_
[07:35] <illmortal_> favro... what else can I use other than nano?
[07:37] <favro> illmortal_: I've found nano easiest - there is vim, joe as well
[07:37] <illmortal_> I'm trying to copy/paste so I can pastebin it in hopes someone can see the error :X
[07:44] <Darkrift2> anyone heard of issues with ktorrent using massive amounts of ram?
[07:44] <Darkrift2> and cpu
[07:44] <Darkrift2> brings my system to a halt after a while
[07:45] <favro> the cpu could be due to hash checking the torrent
[07:46] <raymears> hey everyone. i've got a slight problem with my konqueror: when i try to do google queries, instead of displaying the page, it tries to download it. any idea what setting i messed up?
[07:48] <rebecka> So, I'm using knetworkmanager to connect to a mighty strange wpa2-enterprise network and I wonder if there is any way to extract a wpa_supplicant.conf from knetworkmanager (since it uses wpa_supplicant to connect).
[08:06] <chairman> chairman here
[08:06] <chairman> can i put myspace IM on here
[08:12] <unclean> guys how can i run a '.run' file
[08:13] <mag-> chmod +x file.run; ./file.run
[08:15] <unclean> hmm is this right?
[08:15] <unclean> chmod +x /home/unclean/Desktop/et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[08:17] <unclean> cause nothing happens when i do that
[08:18] <unclean> to run a '.run' file is this command correct?
[08:18] <unclean> chmod +x /home/unclean/Desktop/et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[08:20] <danish> hy some 1 there
[08:20] <danish> i need help
[08:20] <danish> plz
[08:21] <danish> hello
[08:21] <danish> some 1 there
[08:21] <dhq> i have an internal mic but it doesnt work  Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
[08:22] <freaky[t]> what is a good desktop search for kubuntu?
[08:23] <favro> unclean: no that makes able to run - now you type the path to it - /home/unclean/Desktop/et-linux-2.55.x86.run
[08:23] <favro> hit enter
[08:24] <favro> !ask | danish
[08:24] <favro> dhq: in konsole type   alsamixer   and make sure the mike is turned up
[08:27] <unclean> thanks favro!
[08:27] <dhq> favro: its is on
[08:27] <favro> unclean: great :)
[08:28] <favro> dhq: I would suggest turning all them up  - but I never use mics so am limited there
[08:28] <dhq> favro: all are up
[08:31] <favro> dhq: I wouldn't know the next step for a mic - is it skype that's the issue or it never works?
[08:32] <dhq> it worked before i ungraded to hardy
[08:32] <unclean> favro: i went to start (its a game) and i get errors saying"cannot load visuals"could not open OpenGL  subsystem"and my ny screen is huge
[08:33] <favro> unclean: try logout/in
[08:34] <favro> it might be you need to set your graphics
[08:34] <favro> *card
[08:38] <unclean> favro: how can i tell if x86 is the right file for my comp?
[08:40] <favro> unclean: is it less than ten years old and intel, amd, or via - it is x86 then
[08:40] <unclean> okay i have an AMD
[08:41] <unclean> still not able to run the game
[08:41] <unclean> i open it wit  Wine and my screen gets all huge
[08:41] <unclean> and nothing happens
[08:42] <favro> unclean: how old is it - you might need dosox
[08:42] <favro> dosbox even
[08:42] <unclean> Amd 1800+ 64mb Geforce2 mx 1--/200
[08:43] <unclean> maybe my vid card isnt installed right?
[08:43] <favro> unclean: how old is the game?
[08:44] <unclean> 2004
[08:44] <favro> old games can't use recent cards
[08:44] <favro> k
[08:44] <favro> what's the vid card
[08:44] <favro> lspci | grep VGA   will tell
[08:44] <unclean> my cards older than the game Geforce2 mx 100/200
[08:46] <unclean> GeForce2 MX200
[08:46] <favro> !info nvidia-glx-legacy
[08:47] <favro> unclean: try that ^^
[08:47] <unclean> i think i have the legacy driver installed let me check
[08:47] <Darkrift2> anyone know if ktorrent has a repo that might have newer versions than what comes in 8.04?
[08:48] <Darkrift2> my current version is performing very badly right now, high cpu/ram usage, low speeds (even with high seed/leech ratio) and at 40kup/40k down its basically choking my internet connection (that is 15mb/3mb)
[08:49] <unclean> favro: yea i have legacy
[08:49] <Darkrift2> i can handle 4000k down and 300-450k up normally, but right now hitting anything over 20k either way brings my system to a halt (cant even load google)
[08:49] <favro> Darkrift2: they'd have a website
[08:50] <favro> unclean: see if   glxinfo | grep render   gives a return
[08:50] <Darkrift2> wow
[08:50] <Darkrift2> 2.2.9 is what i have, 3.1.2 is current :S
[08:51] <Darkrift2> oh, thats for kde4
[08:51] <favro> that happens
[08:51] <unclean> "GLX" missing on display :0.0
[08:51] <favro> I don't think ktorrent would be the issue - maybe a choice in it's settings that was made
[08:52] <favro> unclean: try   glxinfo   - any errors there?
[08:53] <unclean> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:53] <Darkrift2> their site says the kde4 version works in kde3, so ill try that
[08:53] <Darkrift2> ive checked settings, dont see what could cause this
[08:53] <favro> Darkrift2: good luck :)
[08:53] <unclean> favro: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:54] <favro> unclean: I don't know how X expects people to install the legacy driver but it seems that you have but aren't using it
[08:54] <favro> have it even
[08:56] <raymears> hey everyone. i've got a slight problem with my konqueror: when i try to do google queries, instead of displaying the page, it tries to download it. any idea what setting i messed up?
[08:57] <favro> unclean: seems envyng-gtk is the way
[08:57] <favro> !envyng-gtk
[08:57] <favro> !envyng
[08:58] <unclean> should i try that?
[08:58] <favro> unclean: tried the restricted driver manager?
[08:58] <favro> I took that for granted silly me...
[08:58] <unclean> im not sure
[08:59] <favro> it's in the menu I beleive
[08:59] <cassiopiea> I hve problems wiht my wlan after upgrade... someone cann help?
[09:00] <unclean> i went into synaptic and getting envyng now
[09:02] <favro> unclean: get the qt one for kde
[09:03] <favro> cassiopiea: an upgrade can overwrite files and has a new kernel so redo the steps you did before
[09:05] <cassiopiea> that ok but the files exits and my Wlan works, but it dosent starts automatic
[09:07] <unclean> favro: no luck screen just gooes black then back to X
[09:08] <favro> cassiopiea: I don't use wireless so am clueless about it - but this might help
[09:08] <favro> !wifi
[09:08] <favro> unclean: seems it might be the game then - is there a faq on there site?
[09:08] <favro> s/there/their
[09:19] <v6lur> hi: when compiling ktt (kde tengwar tool), i get this error: "configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found"
[09:19] <v6lur> libqt3-mt-dev and qt3-dev-tools are installed
[09:19] <v6lur> what else must i install?
[10:15] <goldmetal> anyone know what /dev/md is?
[10:17] <nikami> anyone know what the quickest and easiest way to fix a dual boot pc that is giving and NTLDR error message on boot?
[10:17] <nikami> The only functioning pc i have right now is a kubuntu desktop (with Gnome installed as well) that has no CD drive. Thus, everything would have to be performed via bootable USB.
[10:21] <favro> nikami: someone in ##windows might - they'll prob say remove linux and reinstall tho :)
[10:22] <chairman> how do i get kubuntu KDE4
[10:23] <favro> !intrepid
[10:23] <favro> it still installs ok I here
[10:29] <aris> hello
[10:31] <nikami> anyone have any other answers for my NTLDR problem?
[10:31] <aris__> i got problem with kmail. with making my post downloadable
[10:32] <aris__> however it seems all settings are made ok
[10:35] <aris__> anyone will help me with this issue?
[10:36] <aris__> kmail give me message: no new message on account but in the fact there is plenty of them not read
[11:43] <testi> It looks like an update for gtk-qt-engine broke gtk-qt-engine (It now displays default gtk theme). Was the update properly tested? How can I fix that?
[11:43] <testi> on my system
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:58] <favro> testi: I had to add my icon theme to the two qt-gtk files in my home folder to get it used
[12:16] <chairman> how do i install KDE4?
[12:17] <howtoo> add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[12:17] <howtoo> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main
[12:17] <howtoo> and do full system upgrade from adept or apt, or whatever you like
[12:18] <knusperfrosch> how do i check in bash if any file like "${HOME}/prefix-*" exists?
[12:18] <knusperfrosch> "if [ -f" doesn't work for *
[12:19] <favro> if [ $? -f  maybe
[12:19] <LeeJunFan> after repartitioning an NTFS volume to ext3 and formatting mount complains the new UUID doesn't exist, is there some way to trigger a refresh of some type?
[12:19] <chairman> DO I TYPE THIS IN THE KONSOLE
[12:20] <chairman> OR DO THEY HAVE IT ON A DISK ALREADY
[12:22] <favro> !kde4 | chairman
[12:22] <knusperfrosch> favro: still get a "too many arguments"
[12:23] <favro> LeeJunFan: with a format it gets a new uuid afaik
[12:24] <LeeJunFan> favro: it's not that I don't have the new UUID for it, it's that mount complains that one isn't there. ie. blkid shows the old UUID.
[12:24] <cosmofield> How do I uninstall firefox on my Kubuntu? I tried sudo apt-get remove firefox but it says that 'package firefox is not installed so not removed' But Firefox can still be started, it has a start button in the program menu and I don't want Firefox because I use Gnu Icecat. Any ideas? :/
[12:25] <tobor_> cosmofield: how did FF get onto the system in the first place?
[12:26] <_-Jay-_> cosmofield: Depends on the version    try sudo aptitude search firefox
[12:26] <cosmofield> I installed firefox and later installed Icecat and remove firefox with apt-get, but its still somewhere in the system :/
[12:26] <_-Jay-_> and find the version with an i next to it
[12:26] <_-Jay-_> you may find you have to remove firefox-3.0
[12:26] <favro> knusperfrosch: LeeJunFan tried the old uuid? - seems it's not so old then - and sudo blkid works better here
[12:27] <favro> well sorry knusperfrosch
[12:27] <favro> knusperfrosch: what's the rest of the script or relevant section of it?
[12:27] <LeeJunFan> actually blkid shows the new one, I mis-spoke. But /dev/disk/by-uuid/ lists the old one. udev doesn't realize I reformatted.
[12:28] <tobor_> cosmofield: "how" did FF get onto the system in the first place?
[12:28] <tobor_> did u apt-get install, or did you download it from a website?
[12:29] <knusperfrosch> favro: got a directory, "${HOME}/somewhere" and i'd like to check if it contains any files matching "some-name-*.ext"
[12:30] <cosmofield> [solved] Anyway, it's gone now, it was firefox-3.0  that was still left, I didn't noticed earlier that it was a version difference, thanks for the help :)
[12:31] <favro> knusperfrosch: does  ls ~/ | grep prefix ext   work
[12:31] <favro> that'll be command line
[12:31] <knusperfrosch> favro: if [ "$(ls some-file-*.ext)" == "" ];then echo "no ex"; else echo "ex"; fi
[12:31] <knusperfrosch> would be a solution but not really nice...
[12:34] <senorpedro> hi folks
[12:38] <LeeJunFan> favro: udevtrigger
[12:42] <favro> knusperfrosch: LeeJunFan it's working?
[12:47] <LeeJunFan> favro: well, it did. I found a page with someone who had the same problem and that solution, I ran it - I mounted my device, then X locked up. Could be something kde4 or compiz doesn't like.
[12:47] <LeeJunFan> favro: so of course it cost me a reboot I Was trying to avoid in the first place.
[12:53] <favro> knusperfrosch: if [ ! -f 'prefix'"*"'ext' ] ; then  echo found ; else echo not found ; fi
[12:59] <wesley_> Are there people who also have upgrade problems in 8.10 ? with
[12:59] <wesley_> libpam-runtime
[12:59] <wesley_>  update-motd
[13:02] <tobor_> hi all, the wiki says to use kbuntu-restricted-extras package for playing restricted formats, but apt-cache search doesnt find the package (fresh install of Kubuntu 8 (heron) Ubuntu 8.04.1 )  Is there a suggested alternative?
[13:02] <Pici> wesley_: Intrepid issues should be discussed in #ubuntu+1
[13:03] <Pici> tobor_: Do you have the multiverse repositories enabled?
[13:03] <tobor_> Pici: I don't know.  Haven't changed anything about the repos.  Using it exactly as installed from CD-ISO
[13:04] <tobor_> Pici: how can I check?
[13:05] <Pici> tobor_: Is there a source menu in Adept? (I'm more of a gnome guy so I'm not sure of the KDE interface)
[13:05] <wesley_> !bug1
[13:05] <tobor_> Pici: looking
[13:09] <tobor_> Pici  I dont use adept either, (I'm a CLI guy! 30+ years on various "UNII" :-) ) adept shows that restricted repors are enabled in the repo manager
[13:09] <Pici> tobor_: okay, what does apt-cache policy say about kubuntu-restricted-extras then?
[13:11] <tobor_> !paste
[13:11] <tobor_> Pici: http://paste.ubuntu.com/47755/
[13:12] <tobor_> Pici - I see multiple entries in the output from apt-cache policy showing both restricted and multiverse
[13:12] <Pici> tobor_: How about apt-cache policy kubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[13:13] <tobor_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/47756/
[13:14] <tobor_> Pici: looks like multiverse is on.
[13:14] <tobor_> says none installed (apt-cache policy kubuntu-restricted-extras)
[13:14] <Pici> tobor_: try installing it again then
[13:15] <tobor_> Pici: so it seems like there are two candidates. .. trying
[13:15] <Pici> tobor_: Maybe a typo the first time around
[13:15] <Pici> tobor_: Yes, but it will pick the newer version from hardy-updates
[13:16] <tobor_> Pici: typo. Couldn't find package kbuntu-restricted-extras
[13:16] <tobor_> Pici: heh, thanks
[13:16] <ghostcube> kubuntu
[13:16] <Pici> tobor_: no problem :)
[13:16] <ghostcube> ;)
[13:19] <ocs> hi. is there a way to launch, with kde4 the old gui of adept (the same in kde3) ? In this new gui I can't see many features that were in the old one
[13:21] <EagleScreen> ocs i think it is not possible
[13:22] <EagleScreen> Adept 3 is a new software in Beta phase, it is incomplete
[13:23] <ocs> EagleScreen: ok, but does it mean that i'm forced to use this new adept?
[13:23] <EagleScreen> i think yes, Adept 2.1 is broken and not mainteined anymore
[13:23] <EagleScreen> you can install synaptic, I recommend you to install it with command: 'aptitude -R install synaptic' in order to do not install gnome things
[13:23] <ocs> i see.. thnks EagleScreen
[13:24] <tobor_> Interesting, htop shows 40 or so "console-kit-daemon" processes, but ps ax shows only one, and trying to kill the 40 or so in htop even using  signal "9" has no effect.
[13:27] <favro> tobor_: they might be zombies and you can't kill a zombie
[13:27] <favro> should be a column with sr and z in it
[13:27] <favro> s/sr/s,r/
[13:38] <tobor_> favro: nope, not zombies.  Seems to be a common problem as well. Looks like a design issue. We do keep getting Stupid "Machine resources are there to be wasted" MS style thinking in Linux as time goes on. :-(
[13:39] <favro> ohh
[13:39] <Hori> Hello
[13:39] <Hori> Is there speaking here?
[13:39] <tobor_> 54 processes, each using .2 percent of the system memory, == "Stupid"  :-)
[13:40] <tobor_> !ask > hori
[13:40] <favro> I agree - does running   sudo htop   help kill 'em?
[13:40] <tobor_> favro: Nope.
[13:40] <favro> tobor_: k
[13:41] <tobor_> favro: I stand corrected, as root, htop can kill them.
[13:41] <tobor_> tobor_: Well, you should have waited till I tried it!
[13:41] <tobor_> tobor_: yeah, I know....
[13:41] <favro> tobor_: hehe :)
[13:41] <tobor_> tobor_: and stop talking to yourself in public...
[13:42] <Hori> I want to install some software, a game more specifically that I cannot find in the repositories, I have downloaded extracted all the bits and pieces to a folder, now I have 'autoexec.cfg' and other config files. However, I do not know what I need to do from here. Can anyone assist me?
[13:42] <tobor_> Hori: does the directory for the doftware havea README file?
[13:42] <tobor_> Hori: or an "Install" file ?
[13:43] <tobor_> s/doftware/software
[13:43] <Hori> it has 2 Readme files
[13:43] <Hori> "Run the program like this: ./phun" < ReadmeLinux.txt
[13:43] <Hori> 'phun' being the name of the software
[13:43] <tobor_> what happens when you do that?
[13:43] <Hori> and the other readme file mentions updates and terms of use etc
[13:43] <Hori> tobor_: Well, I don't know. I don't know how to run the program like that.
[13:44] <tobor_> Hori: type in what it says to do. :-)
[13:44] <Hori> I have no knowledge of code whatsoever, which makes Linux even more fun.
[13:44] <tobor_> Hori: do you have an open shell?
[13:44] <Hori> Now I do,
[13:45] <tobor_> cd to the directory where the program is and then type in what the readme file said.
[13:45] <Hori> cd?
[13:46] <tobor_> Hori: also - add the idea that in Linux you do a lot (most) of your work more efficiently from the command line so you should always have terminal open.
[13:46] <tobor_> Hori: "cd" its a command.
[13:46] <tobor_> !tutorial
[13:47] <ubuntu_> ubuntu or kubuntu+ quad core+up to 4gb ram ddr3,+ nvidia geforce 8600 gt+ 600gb hdd= a good pc
[13:47] <Hori> Given this computer isn't my workhorse, I dont' want to spend a lot of time reading and learning how to use the terminal.
[13:47] <favro> Hori: where's the file?
[13:47] <Hori> However, if I can be pointed in the direction to reading how to do the simple stuff I'm happy
[13:47] <ghostcube> Hori: this is essential for linux
[13:48] <tobor_> Hori: OK, you wont be able to do anything but use pre-packed tools then.
[13:48] <tobor_> plonk
[13:48] <ghostcube> Hori: linux isnt an M$ replacement it works different und u need to know some things
[13:48] <ghostcube> *and
[13:49] <Hori> und, das ist deustch. As far as my poor german goes.
[13:49] <ghostcube> Hori: yeah it is :D
[13:49] <Hori> I realise the importance that code has in operating linux effectively. B-b-but
[13:50] <Hori> Right now, I just want to install this game,
[13:50] <Hori> fun first, lessons later
[13:50] <ghostcube> Hori: cd is in windows too
[13:50] <ghostcube> so
[13:50] <ghostcube> dos and terminal behave same sometimes
[13:50] <ghostcube> but if u never used dos ...
[13:50] <Hori> exactly
[13:51] <ghostcube> puh thats bad
[13:51] <Hori> windows being a relatively GUI capable OS
[13:51] <ghostcube> windows = not acceaptable at all
[13:51] <Hori> The lack of need to use DOS, and being raised on GUI OS's doesn't help
[13:51] <ghostcube> :S
[13:51] <favro> Hori: in konsole you type the path to phun e.g. /home/Hori/PHUN/phun
[14:00] <w8tah> good morning folks - how do i add a program to the K menu?
[14:02] <ghostcube> w8tah: just click right on any entry
[14:02] <ghostcube> edit entry
[14:02] <ghostcube> this will open an menu where u can add new progs
[14:02] <w8tah> cool
[14:02] <w8tah> thanks
[14:02] <ghostcube> np
[14:02] <ghostcube> u can change the order of the tools in there too
[14:09] <w8tah> cool
[14:12] <Serva> Hello. How do I register my nick?
[14:12] <Pici> !register | Serva
[14:14] <Serva> This /msg command has to typed from Konversation itself?
[14:15] <Fermio91> salve a tutti
[14:15] <Pici> !it | Fermio91
[14:16] <KRF> Serva, yes
[14:16] <Fermio91> sorry i've wrong channel
[14:16] <KRF> Serva, its mostly the same for all IRC clients
[14:18] <Serva> In the command "/msg nickserv register <your-password> <your-email>", do I specify my nick in nickserv field?
[14:19] <ghostcube> nah
[14:19] <Serva> I can see the password ad and the email fields, but not the nick field
[14:19] <ghostcube> Serva: u are logged in with the nick
[14:19] <ghostcube> so no need for
[14:19] <Serva> ah
[14:19] <Serva> right
[14:20] <Serva> ooO, for a second it got me scared when it printed the password on konversation but then I realized only I could have seen it.
[14:21] <Serva> Heh
[14:23] <Serva> KRF, Can I change the password in future?
[14:23] <KRF> Serva, /nickserv help
[14:24] <Serva> tks KRF
[14:27] <Assurbanipal> guys cannot login in kubuntu.i get error saying : "no write  access to /home/nikolas/.ICEauthority "
[14:27] <Serva> KRF, the "SETPASS <nickname> <key> <password>" requires a key, and it says it is the same key that was mailed to me but in the registration activation email I didn't get any specific key.
[14:28] <KRF> Serva, maybe the pass you passed to REGISTER?
[14:29] <Serva> SETPASS allows you to set a new password using a key emailed to you. The key is valid for one time only, and also becomes invalid if you identify with your old password.
[14:30] <Assurbanipal> guys cannot login in kubuntu.i get error saying : "no write  access to /home/nikolas/.ICEauthority " can someone plz help?
[14:31] <Serva> !ICEauthority
[14:35] <tobor_> Assurbanipal: is easy to fix
[14:36] <Assurbanipal> tobor_, how??
[14:36] <Assurbanipal> tobor_, and why happened?
[14:36] <tobor_> use ctrl-alt-F1 and login to the first virtual console
[14:37] <Assurbanipal> ok
[14:37] <tobor_> Assurbanipal: you dont have write access to the ICEauthority file that tells X-windows you are allowed to have access to the display
[14:37] <Assurbanipal> why happened??and how to fix?
[14:37] <tobor_> so after you login, you will be in a shell, running on a virtual terminal, examine the file and change its protection so you have write access to it.
[14:38] <isprins> hello, does anyone know how i get tomtom home ( running in wine ) to detect my tomtom GO 730 ?
[14:38] <Assurbanipal> how i do that mate?
[14:38] <tobor_> Assurbanipal: I have no idea how it happened, most likely its something you did.
[14:38] <tobor_> Assurbanipal: you dont know how to change protection on a file in the shell?
[14:38] <Assurbanipal> did nothing mate... power went off and then tried to login again
[14:38] <Assurbanipal> no mate-newbe here
[14:39] <tobor_> owch. use the chmod command see "man chmod' for instructions
[14:39] <tobor_> How did the power go off?  Where is your UPS? :-)
[14:40] <Assurbanipal> power offs in crete mate...come more often that hte rain....
[14:41] <Assurbanipal> tobor_, can u please guide me to it?
[14:41] <tobor_> Assurbanipal: sorry - too much RSI here
[14:41] <tobor_> Assurbanipal: if you get a lot of poweroffs you definitely need a UPS ! :-)
[14:42] <tobor_> Assurbanipal: read the man page
[14:46] <Assurbanipal> tobor_, mate,can't make this out...
[14:47] <Serva_> Hello. Where can I request a generic "unaffiliated" user cloak?
[14:49] <xx> no se
[14:49] <xx> me voy
[14:50] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[14:50] <ghostcube> Serva_: this is done by setting up 2 nicks and main and en fallback one
[14:51] <jussi01> Serva_: #freenode
[14:51] <ghostcube> then go to freenode and msg a stuff to cloak u
[14:58] <noaXess> how can i see what's happend if i press my extra button on my laptop to disable the touchpad?
[14:59] <noaXess> i want disable it automatically on kde start..
[14:59] <ghostcube> noaXess: xev
[14:59] <ghostcube> and press the key it will show u the key id
[15:00] <isprins> i found the problem, " autodetect from devide" is not implemented yet in wine..
[15:01] <ghostcube> isprins: on getdeb.net is an 3dmark patched wine
[15:04] <noaXess> ghostcube: xev doesn't see this key.. it's a FN key on my notebook.. function key..
[15:11] <ghostcube> hmmm
[15:27] <mariano_> hola
[15:28] <noaXess> is this the qt4 dev package: qt4-dev-tools? gmake and so on?
[15:29] <mariano_> hola
[15:30] <noaXess> mariano_: hola
[15:30] <noaXess> #i think #kunbuntu-es is your choice :) with hola :)
[15:31] <noaXess> #kubuntu-es sorry..
[15:33] <mariano_> hello
[15:35] <noaXess> hi :)
[15:35] <noaXess> is qmake only in qt3-dev-tools included? what about qt4-dev-tools? is qmake also included if i only install qt4-dev-tools?
[15:39] <SilentDis> hello
[15:41] <SilentDis> question:  I'm on EVDO 'net access.  Currently, i use KPPP to make my connection.  While this works fine for the most part, sometimes my cellphone likes to reboot, and of course kppp crashes out.  I'd like to switch it over to a 'permanant' connection, whereas if the OS can't find the EVDO modem, it just retries in a few moments again to establish connection.  Ideally, then, i'd not have to 'dial up' each time, just plug the phone in.  suggestions?
[15:54] <ere4si> 1
[16:18] <sobczyk> is there any firefox support channel?
[16:21] <trappist> sobczyk: have to connect to irc.mozilla.org and /join #firefox
[16:22] <sobczyk> thx
[16:24] <rcz> Pessoal, que tao diferente e' o KDE 4? alguem usa? vale a pena?
[16:29] <xx> ll
[16:31] <rcz> Pessoal, que tao diferente e' o KDE 4? alguem usa? vale a pena?
[16:34] <xx> """""
[16:34] <JackWinter> i have a problem with exporting mpg2 from kino.  the error i get is "Error writing to KINO/MJPEG audio filter - aborting."  i suppose it has something to do with my mjpeg codecs ?
[17:06] <digit_al> hi - how can i get to the german-kubuntu-channel ?
[17:07] <digit_al> (i'm here on irssi with big problems)
[17:07] <Githzerai> !de
[17:09] <liam> hey
[17:10] <liam> can anyone help with my alsamixer problem?
[17:10] <digit3> hi, it seems like i'm banned - is it forbidden to use irssi in the german channel (no problems with an graphical irc-interface 2 minutes ago)
[17:10] <liam> whenever i open it i get module-assistant
[17:11] <liam> whenever i try to open it i get alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[17:12] <digit3> can anyone help me - login-function for kdm-kde4 doesnt work
[17:12] <favro> liam: des   aplay -l   give a return?
[17:13] <liam> i get
[17:13] <liam> aplay: device_list:205: no soundcards found...
[17:13] <favro> digit3: #kubuntu-kde4 will know about that
[17:14] <digit3> favro: thank you
[17:18] <liam> im also having probels with my sound, but im trying to get alsamixer to wor first
[17:18] <favro> liam: alsamixer can't find a soundcard
[17:19] <favro> liam: in konsole try    sudo lshw -C multimedia
[17:19] <favro> to find the card
[17:22] <|markie|> anybody is known with freenx/nomachine and kde4
[17:23] <zett> hi ppl
[17:23] <liam> *-multimedia UNCLAIMED
[17:23] <liam>        description: Multimedia audio controller
[17:23] <liam>        product: IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller
[17:23] <liam>        vendor: ATI Technologies Inc
[17:23] <liam>        physical id: 14.5
[17:23] <liam>        bus info: pci@0000:00:14.5
[17:23] <liam>        version: 80
[17:23] <liam>        width: 32 bits
[17:23] <liam>        clock: 66MHz
[17:23] <liam>        capabilities: msi cap_list
[17:23] <liam>        configuration: latency=64 mingnt=
[17:23] <liam> i now i need the atiixp driver but it wont work
[17:23] <omgz00r> I have problem with flash if i want run any flash video on youtube example sound in video doesnt work
[17:24] <omgz00r> anyne can solv my problem ?
[17:26] <omgz00r> omfg ?
[17:26] <omgz00r> is here anzone ?
[17:27] <liam> omgz00r: What browser are you using?
[17:27] <omgz00r> Firefox
[17:28] <omgz00r> In tutorial was that i must install "libflashsupport but i install it and it doesnt work
[17:28] <liam> download it from here: http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/flash-plugin-<IP_ADDRESS>-release.i386.rpm
[17:28] <Githzerai> omgz00r: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[17:29] <zanberdo> I have installed linux to my laptop using an encrypted partition configured with lvm.  I've discovered I need to free up some space on the drive in order to install another OS.  gparted does not appear to handle resizing of encrypted partitions, so even if I resize my lvm partitions I can't seem to resize the overall encrypted partition.  Are there any tools for resizing an envcrypted partition?
[17:29] <liam> ines better though
[17:29] <omgz00r> i hate adobe
[17:29] <liam> well its the best options
[17:30] <Githzerai> omgz00r: as we all do, but unfortunately it's sort of a standard...
[17:30] <omgz00r> How to install it ?
[17:30] <omgz00r> i forgot :D
[17:31] <Githzerai> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[17:31] <omgz00r> not this
[17:31] <omgz00r> i have alreadz plugin nonfree installed...but mz problem is that i can hear sound from flash videos
[17:32] <omgz00r> i thought liam's file
[17:32] <Githzerai> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/flash-plugin-<IP_ADDRESS>-release.i386.rpm
[17:33] <favro> that's an rpm
[17:33] <omgz00r> how to install it ?
[17:33] <favro> !rpm
[17:33] <mifauna> hello
[17:34] <omgz00r> so.....?
[17:34] <liam> aaah
[17:34] <mifauna> ok
[17:34] <favro> !deb
[17:35] <omgz00r> so i need deb package ? :-/
[17:37] <mifauna> cual  es el canal en español
[17:37] <zanberdo> !es
[17:37] <omgz00r> !cy
[17:37] <omgz00r> !cz
[17:38] <omgz00r> !sk
[17:38] <omgz00r> oh
[17:38] <Githzerai> http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz, there is a README inisde which will explain how to install
[17:49] <inigo> alguien me puede ayudar con un problema?
[17:49] <favro> !br
[17:49] <v6lur> why can't i install kdelibs4-dev? adept manager shows it will break if installed
[17:50] <v6lur> on kubuntu hardy
[17:50] <favro> using kde4?
[17:51] <genii> v6lur: You probably want kdelibs5 and not kdelibs4
[17:51] <v6lur> no, i want them for kde3, thus kdelibs4 should be the right one
[17:51] <newbb> hi guys i put a usb pendrive in but it doesn't regularly appear on the desktop... how can i do?
[17:53] <JackWinter> !es
[17:54] <genii> v6lur: Perhaps you've installed a newer version of kdelibs4 than the -dev package is for (perhaps from hardy-proposed repo, ppa or similar)
[17:54] <newbb> hi guys i put a usb pendrive in but it doesn't regularly appear on the desktop... how can i do?
[17:56] <v6lur> hmm, i did indeed have hardy-proposed enabled...
[17:59] <quentin_> Hey there
[17:59] <quentin_> Anyone familiar with pdflatex and bibtex?
[18:00] <v6lur> so... is there a way i can get kdelibs4-dev without downgrading kdelibs4?
[18:01] <v6lur> the exact error message, btw: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/47823/
[18:03] <v6lur> and: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/47827/
[18:03] <genii> v6lur: Please pastebin result of:   apt-cache policy kdelibs                         and: apt-cache policy kdelibs4-dev
[18:04] <w8tah> how can i control the compiz stuff under kubunutu?
[18:05] <v6lur> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/47828/ and http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/47829/ , respectively
[18:05] <genii> w8tah: With compizconfig-settingsmanager      (ccsm for short) Ask them in #compiz-fusion channel for details
[18:05] <genii> v6lur: Reading
[18:05] <w8tah> cool
[18:05] <w8tah> thank you
[18:05] <v6lur> Paigaldatud: (ei ole) means "Installed (is not)"
[18:05] <v6lur> or similar
[18:06] <w8tah> genii: what is the command to start it -- i cant find it in the K menu?
[18:06] <genii> v6lur: Ok, same versions. So the groaning is from the libasound2 saying it needs specifically an earlier version than what wants to be installed by default
[18:07] <v6lur> so i'll try to downgrade asound?
[18:07] <v6lur> libasound2*
[18:08] <genii> w8tah: Install package named compizconfig-settings-manager    then after, alt-f2  and put in    ccsm
[18:08] <w8tah> got it
[18:08] <w8tah> thanks
[18:08] <v6lur> gosh, that wants to remove half my system :o
[18:08] <kalel> hello
[18:08] <kalel> some
[18:09] <genii> v6lur: You could specify version to install like     sudo apt-get install libasound2=1.0.15-3ubuntu4
[18:09] <v6lur> oh, one can do that? cool :D
[18:09] <genii> Yes :)
[18:09] <genii> work requires me, AFK a while
[18:11] <v6lur> kdelibs4-dev is installing its dependencies. thanks a million :D
[18:13] <testi> I want to deny one kvpnc profile (that uses vpnc) to overwrite /etc/resolv.conf - Unchecking DNS_UPDATE (Network -> General) does not help.
[18:15] <newbb> hi guys i'm not able to see my usb pendrive, usually when i jack it in it automatically appears on my desktop, not this time, i also tried to reboot but nothing happens... how can i do? thanks
[18:29] <Firestorm> Hey, my wireless refuses to work and I'm on KDE 3.5 I believe, anybody wanna take this one?
[18:30] <Glady> check it again
[18:30] <Glady> I bet it works now
[18:31] <Firestorm> Hope you weren't talking to me
[18:31] <Glady> why
[18:31] <Firestorm> Because it doesn't automagically work lol
[18:32] <Glady> sometimes u just check it too quickly
[18:32] <Firestorm> No, I don't believe it has the right setup going, I've tried everything
[18:32] <Glady> u dont let it time to get on
[18:32] <Glady> what is the setup
[18:33] <Firestorm> An Atheros 5007 I think
[18:35] <asktoby> My /var/log/messages is full of "hdd: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }"
[18:36] <asktoby> I'm guessing one of my hard disks is on it's way out.
[18:36] <asktoby> ...but how can I tell which one?
[18:36] <babeck> Is there was a way to force users to have to change their passwords after X days?
[18:42] <digit3> hi - back from kubuntu-kde4.. it seems to be a X problem (my problem: when i try to log in by kdm, it jumps back to login)
[18:43] <digit3> is there a possibility to re-install X ?
[18:43] <digit3> or a better solution ?
[18:45] <Glady> andy
[18:46] <digit3> glady: was this for me ?
[18:50] <v6lur> has anyone succeeded in compiling this: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/taskbar-compiz+for+kde-3.5.10?content=89500
[18:51] <v6lur> i managed to get past ./configure, but make stops with errors
[18:51] <v6lur> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/47842/
[18:54] <tobor_> hmm - new behavior - when a command is issued (cli) that is not present you get a long blurb: The program 'aa' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[18:54] <tobor_> sudo apt-get install astronomical-almanac
[18:54] <tobor_> Any idea how to turn that off?
[18:58] <tobor_> does anyone know what package is doing that?
[19:00] <Glady> any
[19:00] <Glady> no it was for arthero
[19:01] <Glady> it is orbit
[19:01] <Glady> whos doing that
[19:02] <Falah> I'm having a problem with kicker
[19:02] <florin_> who has a demonoid invitation?
[19:02] <Falah> when a window closes, it doesn't get removed from kicker sometimes until another window is opened
[19:02] <Glady> I have a lot of them
[19:03] <Falah> Glady: problems with kicker or demonoid invites :p
[19:03] <florin_> could you give me one?
[19:04] <Pici> florin_: This is a support channel, please don't.
[19:05] <Falah> as a matter of fact, it's happening right now
[19:06] <Falah> I have a window "Confirm Quit From System Tray - Power Manager"
[19:06] <Falah> it's listed on kicker, but it's been gone for about 10 minutes
[19:11] <sancho21> I got my shell mess up when doing this: echo "INSERT INTO story_$lang VALUES ('', '$russian_text');"
[19:11] <sancho21> I got ');ERT INTO
[19:11] <sancho21> How to fix this?
[19:12] <Kaalf> Question: how long is the gnome-desktop-environment package going to be broken?
[19:12] <Kaalf> It's been about 6 months since I last tried
[19:12] <Kaalf> and it still fails because the gnome-keyring-manager package doesn't exist
[19:13] <HappySmileMan> Is there a reason why Konveresation 1.1 isn't in the repos?
[19:16] <jussi01> HappySmileMan: when did it come out?
[19:17] <florin_> how I can play games in ubuntu? or best question, where I can download cedega?
[19:17] <HappySmileMan> jussi01: August 6th
[19:17] <HappySmileMan> So it's been over a month
[19:17] <jussi01> !info konversation intrepid
[19:18] <jussi01> its in intrepid...
[19:18] <Kaalf> Anyone know on what I asked?
[19:18] <HappySmileMan> Oh ok
[19:18] <Kaalf> Or if not, is there any way to sucessfully install GNOME as well?
[19:18] <jussi01> Kaalf: install the ubuntu-desktop package
[19:19] <HappySmileMan> florin_: Cedega isn't in the repos, I think it's commercial? You can get Wine, which is what Cedega is based on
[19:19] <florin_> thanks
[19:19] <jussi01> !games | florin_
[19:19] <Kaalf> jussi01: ok, I shall try that, if that works, will that replace KDM with GDM (which I don't want), but how would I switch between the two anyway?
[19:20] <HappySmileMan> "sudo apt-get install wine" would work but best to follow their instructions at http://winehq.org for Ubuntu if you want the most up to date Wine
[19:20] <venik> How do I get the Dashboard in kde4 to show up?  Cntrol-F12 does not work here
[19:20] <florin_> yes i know how to install
[19:20] <jussi01> venik: please use #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support
[19:20] <HappySmileMan> florin_: Was just advising you to use their repo, not the default
[19:20] <florin_> I thought I can find cedega on torrent trackersd
[19:20] <venik> I asked there, but no one knows... ;-(
[19:21] <jussi01> Kaalf: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[19:21] <jussi01> venik: people here are not likely to know either - best to just wait.
[19:21] <Kaalf> jussi01: and to go to GDM, I'd "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"?
[19:22] <jussi01> Kaalf: you could do that, but either will give you a choice between them...
[19:22] <Kaalf> ah ok, thanks
[19:25] <florin_> how can I see effects like linux cube?
[19:27] <jussi01> !compiz | florin_
[19:33] <sudeepa> hi
[19:33] <sudeepa> anybody here
[19:34] <florin__> me
[19:36] <sudeepa> hi florin
[19:39] <__-osh-__> USB? My usb-device keeps dieing on me. I can copy a file or two but then I have to reconnect it again. Bloody annoying. Any ideas?
[19:41] <__-osh-__> Doesn't matter if I mount it through gui or cli. Still dies. Only if I do something on it though.
[19:42] <surgy> how do i get the very latest nvidia driver?
[19:42] <surgy> is there a repo im missing?
[19:43] <jussi01> !envy
[19:43] <surgy> jussi01: so i just sudo apt-get install envy?
[19:44] <jussi01> no
[19:44] <jussi01> envyng-qt
[19:45] <__-osh-__> !usb
[19:45] <__-osh-__> Bah. Nothing there.
[19:46] <surgy> after i install envy do i need to restart X? or is it done at this point?
[19:48] <__-osh-__> Another annoying thing is that it keeps upping the device name. Was /dev/sdc, now up to /dev/sdg
[19:49] <__-osh-__> sorry, /dev/sdh. Argh.
[19:49] <__-osh-__> It's not even consistent. I hate computers.
[19:49] <Bikerbob> anyone have time to help me get X setup?
[19:50] <Bikerbob> running dpkg-reconfigure  xserver-xorg - goes through questions till I get to Keyboard options.. after I say OK.. it drops out and gives me a
[19:50] <Bikerbob> xserver-xorg postinst waring: overwriting possibly-customised configuration file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20080917143414
[19:50] <Bikerbob> FATAL: Module battery not found.
[19:50] <Bikerbob> any ideas?
[19:52] <steven_88> hulli
[19:55] <__-osh-__> Bikerbob: battery? Never seen that before. Sorry, can't help.
[19:55] <Bikerbob> this is a desktop to boot.. so not sure on the battery thing
[19:59] <__-osh-__> Bikerbob: Don't most ubuntus run quite well without and xorg.conf-file? Just rename it and try without. :-)
[19:59] <__-osh-__> Bikerbob: It's not like you're worse off if it doesn't work, right?
[20:00] <v6lur> has anyone succeeded in compiling this: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/taskbar-compiz+for+kde-3.5.10?content=89500 ?
[20:00] <__-osh-__> Anyone got a good script for removing spaces in filenames?
[20:01] <v6lur> i managed to get past ./configure, but make stops with errors: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/47842/
[20:01] <v6lur> kubuntu hardy, kde3
[20:03] <__-osh-__> v6lur: You sure you got all the libs you need to compile? Looks like a missing lib to me, but I haven't compiled things in over a year.
[20:06] <v6lur> ./configure went fine (had a little hassle with that)
[20:07] <v6lur> so "dev dependencies" should be ok?
[20:07] <__-osh-__> v6lur: depends on how the makefile is written I think. So configure might work even if some libs are missing. But you really should ask someone who knows more than I do.  Don't know if I should blame the fscking player or fscking linux. :-(
[20:11] <v6lur> i asked in #compiz-fusion, was advised to install libtool, but the error stays the same
[20:12] <__-osh-__> v6lur: There's some QT-things in there. You got all QT-libs you need? Ask in KDE or QT.
[20:12] <__-osh-__> :s/KDE/#KDE/g
[20:12] <__-osh-__> :s/QT/#QT/g
[20:14] <v6lur> ok, thanks...
[20:17]  * genii sips a coffee
[20:37] <__-osh-__> Why does my usb-connected mp3-player die when I get files from it but not when I put things there?
[20:37] <__-osh-__> dmesg
[20:39] <__-osh-__> FAT: Directory bread(block 535) failed
[20:39] <__-osh-__> that's the dmesg error.
[20:54] <antonio_> #list
[21:08] <jack__> ho un problemino chi mi aiuta?
[21:08] <ironman> hola buenas tardes a tod@s
[21:09] <peter__> hi
[21:09] <jack__> qualcuno mi puo' aiutare??
[21:09] <ironman> alguien que conozca problemas de instalacion de turboprint?
[21:10] <jack__> I need some helpS?
[21:10] <IppatsuMan> !es | ironman
[21:10] <IppatsuMan> !it | jack__
[21:10] <Reformer81> I've installed Ubuntu 8.04 on a system that does not have internet access.  I would like to know how I would go about downloading packages and updates to put on a CD and then bring them to the other computer to install them.  I'm particularly interested in installing the Nvidia drivers and multimedia support.
[21:10] <peter__> j
[21:10] <ironman> tks lppatsuMan
[21:11] <ubuntu_> ok i'im on a live cd on a laptop
[21:11] <ironman> i have instaled turboprint but igot a message
[21:11] <ubuntu_> and for one the resolution is really low
[21:11] <ironman> of an error qhen i send a print wotk
[21:11] <ubuntu_> and for two i can hardly see the screen cuz the ambient light sensor is making it dim as hell
[21:12] <ubuntu_> it will randomly go bright and then super dim again
[21:12] <ironman> the erro is about the usb
[21:14] <ubuntu_> anybody?
[21:20] <v6lur> ubuntu_: and your laptop's make, model is...?
[21:20] <ubuntu_> asus m70
[21:21] <ubuntu_> i just did a workaround so the display is fine now but apparently it won't stay like tha
[21:21] <ubuntu_> the workaround only fixed the extremely dim screen
[21:21] <ubuntu_> now i am still at 800x600
[21:22] <ubuntu_> the xorg config keeps asking me for all these keyboard parameters and since i dont know what to do it will exit if i dont put the right ones in
[21:23] <Reformer81> I've installed Ubuntu 8.04 on a system that does not have internet access.  I would like to know how I would go about downloading packages and updates to put on a CD and then bring them to the other computer to install them.  I'm particularly interested in installing the Nvidia drivers and multimedia support.
[21:24] <ubuntu_> last time i had to reboot a few times for it to detect my internet settings
[21:24] <ubuntu_> unless you're saying it will not be using the internet in which case i suggest you hook it up and do updates then bring it back
[21:24] <Daisuke_Ido> !aptoncd
[21:25] <Daisuke_Ido> Reformer81: might want to take a look at that
[21:25] <ubuntu_> now, how do i fix my screen resolution?
[21:25] <Reformer81> Daisuke_Ido: I've looked at the before, but I don't see any listings for nvidia-glx-new or the mp3, wmv, etc. codecs.
[21:38] <tichau> test
[21:38] <yamen> op-concept
[21:41] <Glady> ok
[21:44] <sito> hellow!
[21:44] <sito> i need the sources of intrepid ibex kubuntu
[21:45] <genii> sito: Ask in #ubuntu+1 or #kubuntu-devel please
[21:47] <sito> thanks genii
[21:47] <genii> np
[22:34] <Cole_Chamber> hi i have a question about playing DVDs
[22:35] <jussi01> Cole_Chamber: ask
[22:46] <hkr> hola
[23:02] <wesley_> where can i find X11_Xscreensaver_LIB ?
[23:04] <noaXess> does anybody now, when the next kernel image comes out for hardy?
[23:04] <Nutzebahn> Hello.
[23:32] <wesley_> how can i force to install a 32 bit deb ?
[23:45] <mn_> Hello.  Could anyone help me find the equation editor by open office.org?  I have installed it via apt-get, but it doesn't appear anywhere I see.
[23:47] <alistair> Hi can anyone tell me what 'config' file this refers to: http://pastie.org/274570
[23:55] <genii> alistair: likely some file in /etc for ndiswrapper
[23:56] <alistair> genii, tks
[23:56] <genii> np
[23:56] <g2g591> I found a bug on the website. the shipit link points to the site to get ubuntu cds (shipit.ubuntu.com) when it should point to shipit.kubuntu.org


[00:40] <Mike_Feravolo> desertc are you here
[00:43] <Mike_Feravolo> I think you tried to send me a file after i left and it timed out before i got back home
[00:53] <desertc> yes - but I don't remember what the file was
[00:54] <Mike_Feravolo> I think we where talking about posters of fliers
[00:55] <Mike_Feravolo> Also getting the marketing team better organized and centralizing the location to share marketing stuff
[00:56] <Mike_Feravolo> If that help's I don't remember either, just the computer snarling at me
[01:02] <Mike_Feravolo> I was reading the channel log from around 18 o-clock my time ( 6pm EST ?) it seems that the free vs freedom debate was going on
[05:39] <DPic> who here was i talking about a video campaign with?
[07:29] <yao_ziyuan> i want to suggest an emergent action on kubuntu's official website: put a note there advising east asian prospective users to "download ubuntu instead and then install the kubuntu-desktop package, because installing kubuntu directly will not get them input methods."
[11:13] <juliux> hi
[11:18] <juliux> ubuntu-de coffee mugs arrived today http://ubuntu.juliux.de/tassen.jpg
[12:04] <Mike_Feravolo> good day people: I'm on my way to start yet another business networking group in Orlando Florida Today
[12:05] <Mike_Feravolo> The difference with mine is that a Computer Science with over 25 years in the trade is leading it, and our presentations are all going to focus on using the internet in business
[12:07] <Mike_Feravolo> The real theme is going to be software freedom and free software, but the other thing will draw more people
[12:07] <Mike_Feravolo> peace
[14:22] <katkin> juliux: hey
[14:22] <juliux> hey katkin
[14:22] <katkin> juliux: just wondered if you have sent that e-mail about CDs for LinuxTag yet? I don't seem to have anything in my inbox
[14:23] <juliux> katkin, about LinuxTag???
[14:23] <juliux> i thought we are talking about CeBIT and for CeBIT I get yesterday 3000cds
[14:23] <katkin> juliux: aha sorry, yes, my mistake!
[14:24] <katkin> juliux: SO many events that I'm trying to keep track of at the moment!!
[14:24] <juliux> hehe
[14:24] <katkin> juliux: just so I know, how was that arranged in the end?
[14:24] <juliux> garry approved 3000cds for cebit and send them out to me
[14:24] <juliux> gerry
[14:25] <katkin> fair enough
[14:25] <katkin> and what is the breakdown?
[14:25] <juliux> so i am fine
[14:25] <katkin> are they all ubuntu 7.10 x86?
[14:26] <katkin> or is there a mixture?
[14:26] <juliux> it is a mixture
[14:27] <juliux> there are some kubuntu x86, edubuntu 86 and ubuntu server x86
[14:27] <juliux> but no amd64
[14:27] <katkin> ok cool, that's great
[14:28] <juliux> i have the papers at home
[14:28] <katkin> I have asked gerry to let me know next time he arranges something like that, just as I look after events, getting CDs sent out etc. saves wires getting crossed etc.
[14:29] <katkin> all the best for the event! Let me know how it goes
[14:29] <juliux> thanks
[14:29] <juliux> i think it will be fun;)
[14:29] <juliux> cebit is always good, with good parties at the evening;)
[14:57] <jono> folks
[14:57] <jono> can you help push http://digg.com/linux_unix/Make_a_real_difference_to_Ubuntu_with_5_A_Day
[18:25] <jpatrick> /wi/win 17
[19:22] <DPic> hey, shouldn't our meeting be held in here
[19:22] <DPic> and not in #ubuntu-meeting?
[19:23] <johnc4510> Most ubuntu team meetings are held in -meeting  the exception being loco team meetings
[19:23] <DPic> i see
[19:23] <johnc4510> it's mostly for the sake of openess
[19:23] <DPic> but why don't we have it in our own channel?
[19:24] <DPic> ah, i see
[19:24] <DPic> our channel is still open though
[19:24] <johnc4510> true, it's just a policy we try to follow if possible
[19:27] <DPic> alright
[19:28] <DPic> what's the procedure for IRC logging?
[19:29] <johnc4510> they probably have a log bot in -meeting    not sure  but i log everything so i'll have it
[19:29] <DPic> okay great
[19:29] <johnc4510> :)


[14:39] <jose> working on fridge release announcement
[15:00] <pleia2> no funeral to go back to (we won't make it in time), but upon landing in Tokyo AGAIN we learned another relative had passed away
[15:00] <pleia2> I'm staying in Japan to continue our vacation and do the conference, but my brain has melted from travel and sad
[15:00]  * jose hugs pleia2
[15:00]  * pleia2 hugs
[15:01] <pleia2> worst week ever
[15:01]  * pleia2 shall try to make the best of her time here
[15:03] <jose> don't worry about uwn and news, I'll make sure things go out of the door as usual. go to your conference and enjoy you evenings
[15:04] <PaulW2U> pleia2: yeah, don't worry about UWN. I'll write every last summary if I have to :)
[15:05] <pleia2> thanks guys
[15:06]  * pleia2 goes to sleep
[15:08] <jose> have a good night :)


[11:35] <robs_> someone can take a look at this bug I submitted  ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/703993
[12:57] <ronny> hi
[12:58] <ronny> im a bit at loss, i cant seem to find docs on how to prevent the automated starting of some services
[13:02] <JanC> ronny: what version of upstart are you using?
[13:03] <JanC> ronny: in 0.6.7 you can use the "manual" stanza, in older versions you can comment out the "start on" line(s)
[13:08] <ronny> atm 0.6.6
[15:20] <dacresni> how can you which running process depend on an upstart job
[15:20] <dacresni> like what's using mysql now
[15:25] <JanC> considering that those processes might be running on a computer at the other side of the world, how do you think that would work?
[15:28] <dacresni> other side of the world? im just talking about programs that only start after mysql is running
[15:28] <dacresni> thats the point of upstart right? to only launch programs after the programs they depend on are runnning?
[15:29] <dacresni> in the case of mysql if there are are open sockets i guess i should ask the mysql people about that right?
[15:29] <dacresni> or am I confusing this with launchd
[15:35] <jhunt> dacresni: it's not that easy currently - you need to look at the "start on" and "stop on" entries for all jobs.
[15:36] <JanC> upstart is based on events, not on dependencies
[15:37] <jhunt> quite.
[15:38] <JanC> maybe it's possible to document dependencies in job metadata in the future, just like you can document "emits" ?
[15:40] <JanC> dacresni: programs/jobs that need mysql might not always have a connection/socket open permanently...
[15:41] <dacresni> ok, thanks
[15:43] <dacresni> the events vs dependencies tells me that i did confuse it with launchd
[15:43] <dacresni> I forget how systemd does it
[15:44] <JanC> you can implement dependencies using upstart's events, but not the other way around
[16:02] <dacresni> well, thanks all
[22:16] <kreign> hi, I'm trying to understand the mountall.conf file. I need to have it wait for a custom filesystem module, which is getting modprobed via module-init-tools.conf; however, both these conf files appear to have the same prereq of 'start on startup'
[22:16] <kreign> is there any way to make one a prereq of the other?
[22:18] <kreign> from looking at the files it looks like I can do an "emits fs_module" and then have mountall.conf with "start on (startup and started fs_module)" - is this correct?
[22:18] <JanC> "emits" is documentation
[22:19] <JanC> so it does nothing on its own
[22:20] <kreign> JanC, ok; how can I specify that basic chain of events?
[22:21] <kreign> JanC, start on (startup and started init-module-tools) ?
[22:21] <kreign> er module-init-tools
[22:22] <JanC> sounds like that might work
[22:22] <kreign> JanC, or am I going about this the wrong way?
[22:22] <kreign> i'm assuming it's not whitespace sensitive...
[22:22] <JanC> I guess the "startup" part can be left out too
[22:23] <kreign> hmm probably.
[22:24] <JanC> and maybe you can make the modprobe for that specific module its own task, so that mountall can start earlier?
[22:25] <kreign> JanC, hmm I don't think mountall will be able to start earlier - module-init-tools is the direct prerequisite.
[22:25] <JanC> also depends on whether boot time is important  ;)
[22:25] <kreign> not so much.
[22:25]  * kreign misses the old way of doing things, somewhat.
[22:26] <kreign> JanC, I'd think that any filesystem modules should be loaded before filesystems try to mount, anyway.
[22:27] <JanC> normally they will be loaded automatically?
[22:28] <kreign> JanC, that does not seem to be the case, in this regard.
[22:28] <kreign> JanC, the modules aren't strictly "linux compliant" per se
[22:28] <kreign> (ok, not going to lie - it's zfs, and I"ve also got to import the zpool in the module-init-tools.conf)
[22:30] <JanC> kreign: I think for most filesystems, their mount utility loads the modules, or something like that
[22:31] <JanC> I guess 'mount.zfs' (or whatever it's called) doesn't?
[22:32] <kreign> JanC, running mountall manually once in does the trick (with 'auto' as an fstab option)
[22:33] <kreign> JanC, it just looks like mountall is running prior to zfs module getting loaded (defined in /etc/modules) and not knowing what -t zfs is. :)
[22:33] <kreign> so, it dies.
[22:33] <JanC> right
[22:35] <JanC> like I said, you can use an extra job only to load the ZFS modules and make mountall.conf depend on that task
[22:35] <kreign> I don't recall classic init hanging on exception like this... iirc it'd continue despite problems.
[22:36] <JanC> classic init did a lot of things serially
[22:36] <kreign> JanC, right - but the zfs modules would need to be loaded beforehand, which are defined in /etc/fstab, so it makes sense to have the module-init-tools.conf do that.
[22:36] <JanC> if you don't mind waiting until all those modules are loaded
[22:37] <JanC> in most cases not an issue, I think
[22:37] <kreign> JanC, yeah. it's on server hardware, so...
[22:37] <kreign> slow bios
[22:37] <kreign> that's like 3-4 times as long as boot even though it's booting from sloooooow flash media
[22:38] <JanC> ☺
[22:38] <kreign> well let's hope i didn't biff it
[22:38] <JanC> my desktop doesn't boot fast either  ;)
[22:38] <kreign> i don't want to walk across the building again
[22:38] <kreign>  15:38:28 up 123 days, 23:34,  9 users,  load average: 0.66, 0.57, 0.49
[22:39] <kreign> ^ not much a problem for me.
[22:39] <kreign> tho i should probably do something like that. I've had two new kernels installed since then...
[22:39] <JanC> right
[22:39] <JanC> I was going to say: I install security updates  :P
[22:39] <kreign> JanC, oh I do too.
[22:40] <kreign> just don't usually have the time for a reboot... will probably do that tonight and watch monday be unproductive fixing things.


[18:55] <cart_man> Hey everyone. I have Ubuntu-mate installed on my SBC. I am trying to figure out how to force the screen to switch off via bash?
[19:11] <superkuh> xrandr --output *monitorname* --off
[19:11] <superkuh> xset dpms force off
[19:12] <superkuh> Either, the first is more flexible.
[19:23] <cart_man> superkuh: although now it does not seem to switch on when I ask it to by moving the moues or the keyboard etc
[19:24] <cart_man> superkuh: I did the following ->  xrandr --output *monitorname* --off; sleep 5;  xrandr --output *monitorname* --on
[19:24] <cart_man> But it does not switch on after 5 seconds
[19:24] <cart_man> can also not switch it on using SSH
[20:51] <superkuh> I assume you didn't actually use "*monitorname*" and put your monitor name there?
[20:53] <superkuh> Just type $ xrandr     by itself to get a listing of the monitors.
[20:53] <superkuh> Then use the name from there, not *monitorname*
[20:55] <superkuh> It'll be something like VGA-0 or DVI-D-0 or HDMI-A-0 or the like, and it'll say, "connected primary" on the line.


[09:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> can the chroot used for booting a thin client host be made writable by the OS?
[09:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> or is it ro, no questions asked?
[12:24] <juliux> hi all
[12:24] <juliux> has somebody tested herd1 on vmware server?
[12:25] <Phoenix7477> i have
[12:25] <juliux> i get an error in vmware with the disk driver
[12:26] <juliux> do you choos ide oder scsi in vmware?
[12:29] <Phoenix7477> hard disc is set to SCSI, cdrom to IDE
[12:31] <juliux> hm
[12:31] <juliux> i choose scsi for the harddisk the debianinstaller says that there is no hard disk:(
[12:32] <juliux> are you using the live or install iso?
[12:33] <crimsun> the 20061205 daily (d-i/alt install) image had severe problems for Xubuntu, so we skipped Herd 1 altogether
[12:33] <crimsun> the first is the requirement of hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false
[12:33] <crimsun> the second is the partitioner
[12:36] <juliux> ah now it is working, switched the harddisk to an virtual ide
[12:37] <juliux> hi zascha
[12:37] <zascha> he
[01:56] <juliux> yeah herd1 installtion is fine under vmware
[01:56] <highvoltage> juliux: kewl
[01:57] <juliux> highvoltage, the main applications are running fine
[01:57] <highvoltage> juliux: can you check if you have the same problem as Reinier Shmid who posted to edubuntu-devel?
[01:57] <juliux> highvoltage, sure
[01:57] <highvoltage> seems like gdm setup didn't work for him
[01:58] <highvoltage> my internet connection should be fine again tonight, then I can rsync again too
[02:01] <juliux> highvoltage, gdmsetup is not working
[02:01] <juliux> highvoltage, if you starte it from the menu, gksu ask you for your password but then no window open
[02:02] <highvoltage> juliux: ah, thanks for confirming that
[02:03] <juliux> highvoltage, there is another bug in the startsite from firefox
[02:04] <juliux> highvoltage, the title in the programm bar is still "Welcome to Edubuntu 6.06 LTS!"
[02:04] <highvoltage> juliux: can you please file bugs for those?
[02:04] <highvoltage> eeek
[02:04] <juliux> highvoltage, sure
[02:05] <highvoltage> juliux: I've sent your feedback to the list, can you also post the bug numbers to the list?
[02:05] <juliux> yes
[02:05] <juliux> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/5802/ that is the output if i open gdmsetup
[02:06] <juliux> highvoltage, but against gdmsetup or gdm?
[02:09] <juliux> highvoltage, https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/75230
[02:20] <juliux> highvoltage, the second one;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/edubuntu-artwork/+bug/75233
[02:39] <highvoltage> juliux: ah, thanks
[02:45] <highvoltage> juliux: that gdmsetup bug looks very strange. I've never seen something like that before
[02:46] <juliux> highvoltage, i also not
[02:46] <juliux> highvoltage, could be something in gksu
[02:47] <juliux> highvoltage, but i am not a developer
[02:48] <bddebian> Heya
[02:49] <juliux> highvoltage, can you check what happend with my e-mail to -devel?
[02:53] <highvoltage> ok
[02:58] <highvoltage> juliux: I can't see any moderator requests or anything :/
[02:59] <juliux> highvoltage, hm
[10:12] <pitux> hello... I have a question... is possible install software from linex repositories?
[10:12] <pitux> is the system less secure?