[00:20] <Fabricio_BRBR> Olá
[00:21] <Tomcat> Evening everyone. I've an Inspiron 7720. Xubuntu 12.10 see's it's touchpad as a mouse. I've not found a settings file nor anything through google.
[00:22] <Tomcat> It's been like this with Arch, Slackware, Debian, etc
[00:43] <GridCube> ?
[02:50] <misterkittens> Hello, and I've recently installed xubuntu. This is my first step into linux based OS's, and was wondering if anyone had some tips for me?
[02:50] <|Slacker|> be happy
[02:50] <|Slacker|> ;)
[02:53] <misterkittens> My windows xp took a maximum of 10 clicks and 20 seconds to open one folder. Xubuntu does that, and a hundred other things a million times faster. I'm as happy as I can possibly be right now. :D
[02:56] <|Slacker|> yeah! xubuntu's quite fast
[02:59] <misterkittens> Yes, yes it is 0-0 I'm pretty much speechless. I thought my computer was pretty much done for. Xubuntu proved me wrong ^.^
[03:18] <misterkittens> Irc, a place for people to gather when they want a sense of community, but not actually interact. Or talk for that matter...
[03:47] <maven> Hi Ｉ make the Panel2 auto hidden. But I found that it will be inconvenience when the mouse over the panel area while I am not intend to operation on the panel. SO I wonder if a delay can be set to the panel?
[04:37] <UkeofJersey> anyone have a quick way of finding out if the laptop I'm on has BlueTooth?
[04:37] <UkeofJersey> Xubuntu 12.10 XFCE
[04:38] <UkeofJersey> I'm aware that I could look up the specs of the laptop, but I was wondering if there were an easier way to find out on ANY given laptop
[04:38] <bazhang> sudo lshw ?
[04:39] <UkeofJersey> ok, could I ask specifically what that output is?  It's a load of lines and is there any way to grep for pertinent info?
[04:41] <bazhang> pastebin it and I will look if you wish
[04:41] <UkeofJersey> while I'd appreciate the help, I'd also like to learn...
[04:52] <UkeofJersey> I have a BlueTooth Devices section in Settings Manager, but "Adapter" and "Device" are greyed out.  How can I tell if this is a due to a lack of hardware or a lack of software?
[04:53] <bazhang> basic bt functionality should be in the kernel, you could install some bluetooth specific software I suppose
[04:54] <bazhang> !find bluez
[04:54] <bazhang> !info bluez
[04:54] <bazhang> UkeofJersey, ^
[04:55] <UkeofJersey> I'll take a look, Thanks!
[04:57] <UkeofJersey> not much help...
[04:58] <UkeofJersey> bluez is installed and latest, but I have no indication as to whether the laptop is even capable or not.  This isn't the only laptop I'll be working on, so I would have liked a check to see if there is BlueTooth hardware at all...
[04:59] <bazhang> the system settings would indicate if it were available
[05:00] <UkeofJersey> the system settings have a BlueTooth Manager that has all the interesting bits greyed out
[05:01] <UkeofJersey> am I to assume that there isn't BlueTooth hardware at all?
[05:02] <bazhang> that would be a fairly clear assumption, yes
[05:02] <Unit193> lsusb shows me: Bus 003 Device 006: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)  for example.
[05:07] <UkeofJersey> thanks, Unit, that command gave me a nice succinct output (and that is far more helpful than condescension), but your readout would indicate to me that you have that output because you've plugged in a USB dongle, and that internal BT would look differently?
[05:08] <Unit193> lspci is another one, if built in, and *maybe* lspcmcia. :P
[05:08] <Unit193> UkeofJersey: And exactly, external USB device, try lspci (as above) for internal.
[05:10] <UkeofJersey> dang
[05:10] <UkeofJersey> unfortunately it looks like there is no joy
[05:11] <UkeofJersey> had I plugged in a BT dongle, I most likely wouldn't have asked if I had plugged it in, but your help is greatly appreciated nonetheless, Unit
[05:11] <Unit193> Oh, I was saying *my* output looks as such.
[05:11] <UkeofJersey> right, right
[05:12] <UkeofJersey> I understand and still thank you for trying
[05:12] <UkeofJersey> :)
[05:13] <Unit193> Sure thing!
[07:28] <xubuntu957> hi there, i have question for xubuntu 12.10 which ppa can i bring in the system?
[07:28] <knome> xubuntu957, hello, what do you mean?
[07:29] <xubuntu957> knome: wait, i will explaine in second
[07:29] <knome> sure
[07:30] <xubuntu957> knome: can i use this ppa for my xubuntu 12.10: https://launchpad.net/~dhor/+archive/myway
[07:31] <Pensacola> yes I think that's no problem
[07:31] <xubuntu957> Pensacola: thanks!
[07:31] <knome> xubuntu957, yes, it seems to have quantal (12.10) packages. please note as usual that installing PPA's is at your own risk
[07:31] <xubuntu957> i will try now
[07:32] <xubuntu957> knome: yes, i know for the risk, but i trust this guy. i have some programs on ubuntu 10.04 before from his ppa
[07:33] <xubuntu957> knome: xubuntu is my new distro, before that i was have ubuntu 10.04
[07:33] <xubuntu957> i also saw i dont have synaptic
[07:33] <xubuntu957> how to add ppa from terminal?
[07:34] <xubuntu957> btw xubuntu is really fast and looks so good
[07:34] <xubuntu957> i think is faster than ubuntu 10.04
[07:34] <Pensacola> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:dhor/myway
[07:34] <xubuntu957> even if i have kernel 3.xxxx
[07:35] <xubuntu957> Pensacola: thanks!
[08:29] <Inoki> Guys, anybody using plank here?
[08:30] <heoyea> sure
[08:30] <Inoki> heoyea: I want to alter the indicator dot in it, but somehow can't figure the way to do it. Changed several settings, nothing happened.
[08:31] <Inoki> heoyea: Is it dependant on the theme I'm using?
[08:31] <heoyea> guess so
[08:38] <MoL0ToV> hi to all, i have a problem with xubuntu livecd. i connected 2 identical notbook via a ethernet cross cable, but if i set static ip on both pc i cannot ping form one to another. exist a way to disable all automatic network config (network manager etc..) and use static ip then netcat + dd to clone partitions?
[08:39] <MoL0ToV> SystemRescueCd works via network?
[08:40] <MoL0ToV> clonezilla is more confortable?
[08:41] <xubuntu358> hi there, how to remove gmusicbrowser from volume control, is it possible?
[08:41] <knome> xubuntu358, if you don't use gmusicbrowser, you can uninstall it
[08:42] <knome> xubuntu358, if you do use it, then there's no way to remove it
[08:42] <xubuntu358> no, i will use it, but. how to remove it from volume control?
[08:43] <xubuntu358> my player for music is moc player
[08:43] <xubuntu358> knome: you have xubuntu?
[08:43] <knome> yes
[08:43] <xubuntu358> knome: you have preload installed on your system?
[08:44] <packetfrog> :>
[08:44] <packetfrog> >:D
[08:44] <knome> xubuntu358, please ask the real question
[08:44]  * packetfrog hides
[08:44] <xubuntu358> knome: you know what is service 'preload'?
[08:44] <knome> cat packetfrog > #xubuntu-offtopic
[08:44] <packetfrog> Sir yes sir
[08:45] <packetfrog> preload preloads regularly used applications into ram
[08:45] <xubuntu358> yes
[08:45] <packetfrog> so as to speed up "loading"
[08:45] <xubuntu358> and you have installed on your system?
[08:45] <packetfrog> Yes
[08:45] <xubuntu358> ok
[08:45] <xubuntu358> i will also use it on xubuntu
[08:45] <xubuntu358> i dont need to restart computer after installing that service?
[08:46] <packetfrog> You dont NEED to.
[08:46] <xubuntu358> i have questions about music in xubuntu, someone will help me?
[08:47] <knome> !ask | xubuntu358
[08:47] <heoyea> sure
[08:48] <packetfrog> What kind of problems with music sir!?
[08:48] <SunStar> some one will.. .  .    .         .                .        .    .  . ...Eventually
[08:48] <packetfrog> SUNSTAR
[08:48] <xubuntu358> i need program called..: festige, someone here know what i talking about?
[08:49] <xubuntu358> packetfrog: i dont have problem with music at all
[08:50] <packetfrog> xubuntu358, festige
[08:50] <xubuntu358> festige is program can handle with vst-and vsti plugins
[08:50] <packetfrog> xubuntu358, https://launchpad.net/~falk-t-j/+archive/festige
[08:50] <packetfrog> There you go sir
[08:51] <xubuntu358> packetfrog: this ppa can work on my xubuntu 12.10 quantal?
[08:52] <packetfrog> One easy way to find out sir
[08:52] <packetfrog> :>
[08:52] <xubuntu358> i see only for: oneric, lucid, maverick and natty
[08:53] <xubuntu358> packetfrog: do you want to try to find for my xubuntu 12.10 that ppa with festige?
[08:53] <packetfrog> No.
[08:53] <packetfrog> If you want to get all crazy try UbuntuStudio.
[08:53] <xubuntu358> :(
[08:53] <xubuntu358> i like xubuntu
[08:54] <packetfrog> UbuntuStudio is xubuntu made for audio/video production....
[08:54] <knome> xubuntu358, i'd ask in #ubuntustudio. they share the same base, and they know more about audio packages in that channel
[08:54] <packetfrog> It uses XFCE but has a low latency kernel and comes preloaded/setup for all that audio stuffz
[08:54] <xubuntu358> ok, i will see it. thanks!
[08:55] <xubuntu358> bb all
[08:55] <cfhowlett> Long time UbuntuStudio user here ... festige?  never heard of it ...
[08:55] <xubuntu358> cfhowlett: really?
[08:55] <xubuntu358> this is really great program
[08:55] <heoyea> compile it
[08:55] <xubuntu358> you can import some vst/vsti stuff over festige and wine
[08:55] <cfhowlett> xubuntu358, no ppa's on my box ...
[08:56] <xubuntu358> cfhowlett: you can now ppa for ardour for xubuntu 12.10 quantal?
[08:57] <xubuntu358> know*
[08:57] <cfhowlett> xubuntu358, could but won't.  I don't run 12.10.  LTS is just fine for my daily use
[08:58] <xubuntu358> ok guys bb i will check. this is today installed xubuntu so.. i can figure out how things work here
[08:58] <xubuntu358> thanks!
[08:59] <packetfrog> Festige does not look special to me.
[09:08] <packetfrog> some sort of wine front end for windows crap
[09:08] <packetfrog> :>
[09:14] <TheUser> Fetish?
[09:14] <TheUser> wtf
[09:15] <TheUser> So  what fetish is special to you, you say?
[09:15] <knome> TheUser, please watch the language
[09:15] <packetfrog> Erm
[09:15] <packetfrog> I had no part in that.
[09:28] <Inoki> Odd, really odd, why some launchers stick on the dock with custom icons other not. Can't figure this out with plank.
[09:33] <packetfrog> the information the dock is looking for is not in the location being looked in.
[09:33] <Inoki> Actually, regardless where I changed the icon for the browser, it doesn't change and the launcher is duplicated.
[09:33] <Inoki> The other icons work.
[09:34] <Inoki> Browser, text editor and a few don't change no matter what I've tried.
[09:34] <packetfrog> properties>appearance>icons?
[09:34] <Inoki> I'm using PNGs for custom launchers, not an entire Icon Set.
[09:34] <Inoki> I've changed the icon for the browser about everywhere, but still no success.
[09:35] <Inoki> I wonder why it does this. I make custom launchers for other programs, they work, they stack, a web browser, text editor and certain others simply don't stack and don't adopt properties.
[09:36] <Inoki> And couldn't find any documentation other than setting the dock up, which wasn't much.
[09:54] <xubuntu906> Hooray, installing Ubuntu on a netbook.
[09:55] <xubuntu906> Transfering from TuxTrans. Anyone know a way to bulk install a list of programs?
[09:56] <knome> xubuntu906, sudo apt-get install package1 package2 ...
[09:56] <xubuntu906> Much appreciated!
[10:02] <packetfrog> :/
[10:39] <NeaNs> Will the Beta release get stable when its released?
[10:45] <packetfrog> raring?
[10:45] <packetfrog> They cycle through
[10:46] <packetfrog> testing > current > outdated
[10:46] <packetfrog> then there is the LTS
[10:46] <NeaNs> packetfrog: so after installation of the beta version it will just update
[10:47] <NeaNs> when stable comes
[10:47] <packetfrog> As bugs are fixed and added in, YOU can sudo apt-get upgrade, i believe.
[10:51] <baizon> NeaNs: yes
[10:51] <baizon> it will automatically update to the stable version
[10:53] <packetfrog> automagically?
[10:54] <baizon> ?
[10:55] <baizon> i didnt wrote that =)
[11:09] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, apt-get dist-upgrade is also quite useful ...
[11:09] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, next lts is 14.04
[11:12] <packetfrog> YESSIR that is what I meant.
[11:12] <packetfrog> been up for 22 hours and I really do not know much about it anyhow :>
[11:12] <packetfrog> Thanks for the info
[11:13] <cfhowlett> packetfrog, no problem
[11:51] <xubuntuNoob> Hiya, i've just uninstalled Ubuntu from my netbook because it was just too sluggish, i'd like to Wubi install Xubuntu, but it appears it's not that easy... or is it?
[11:53] <baizon> xubuntuNoob: http://askubuntu.com/questions/64241/how-do-i-switch-to-xubuntu
[11:54] <xubuntuNoob> bugger, so i didn't have to uninstall Ubuntu after all. I should have known it could be done, much like Cinneman. Thank you.
[11:56] <baizon> np
[11:58] <xubuntuNoob> pity it doesn't work through Wubi though. Do you know if there are any plans for a similar installer? It's just so handy to try out installs with it.
[11:59] <baizon> you can use a live CD
[11:59] <baizon> lor Live USB
[11:59] <baizon> *or*
[12:08] <xubuntuNoob> i'll look into it. It's been a while since i installed linux. The Ubuntu i was using was pretty old so i don't remember how the live CD works. Thanks again! :)  seeya.
[12:10] <baizon> see you
[12:39] <koegs> is there a xubuntu 12.10 mac iso?
[12:40] <holstein> koegs: the "mac" of that era is intel.. so you dont need a special iso
[12:40] <koegs> holstein: i know, i am just wondering why there is http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/ubuntu-12.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[12:41] <holstein> koegs: right?! i saw that too, and have no idea what the difference is
[12:41] <holstein> koegs: and, i dont see a xubuntu one
[12:42] <koegs> me too
[12:42] <koegs> i have to find out what the difference is, but thanks anyway
[12:43] <holstein> koegs: maybe someone in #ubuntu-release?
[12:44] <koegs> heh, something about UEFI-Boot Problems, they removed UEFI support from the mac image, according to this post: http://askubuntu.com/questions/37999/what-is-different-about-the-mac-iso-image
[12:44] <holstein> koegs: sounds right
[12:45] <knome> i imagine the ubuntu-mac images is specifically built for mac
[12:45] <knome> for whatever reason
[12:46] <knome> (i don't know macs at all though, so don't ask me what the reasons might be)
[12:46] <koegs> i will see if the macbook air boot from the FAT32/Grub2/Multiboot-USB-Stick :)
[12:46] <holstein> knome: the mystery is/was that they dont need anything special, since they are intel.. but the uefi thing seems correct
[12:47] <knome> yeah, dunno
[12:47] <holstein> its something for xubuntu and ubuntustudio (and the others) to be aware of..
[12:49] <knome> mh
[12:49] <Cheri703> macs need some special wrangling to prep live usbs
[12:49] <Cheri703> at least mine did
[12:50] <holstein> Cheri703: the one i had didnt.. nor the few i booted live CD's on.. that was around 10.04
[12:52] <Cheri703> cds no
[12:52] <Cheri703> usb, yes afaik
[12:52] <knifcrawler> salut :D
[12:52] <Cheri703> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[12:52] <holstein> Cheri703: i use plop to boot usb's on legacy or otherwise non usb booting
[12:53] <Cheri703> I can only speak from experience: my macbook air would not boot with my usual liveUSB, I had to go through the process on that page
[12:53] <holstein> but, that is more about an issue with booting usb.. not the iso itself
[12:54] <knifcrawler> arf, des amerloques... :s
[12:54] <Cheri703> right, I was mentioning it for koegs who mentioned <pronoun> would be trying a USB
[12:54] <knifcrawler> ou des roosbifs !
[12:54] <Cheri703> in case it didn't work
[12:54] <knifcrawler> enfoirés de fils de pute d'anglosaxon !!!
[12:55] <Cheri703> uhm....?
[12:56] <Cheri703> in case koegs' attempt failed from the usual USB that <pronoun> might use on other computers
[12:57] <cfhowlett> !fr|knifcrawler
[13:53] <arkanabar> is there some handy GUI tool to change the mouse cursor set in xubuntu12.04?
[14:01] <GridCube> the mouse settings?
[14:30] <koegs> thx Cheri703
[14:30] <Cheri703> sure :)
[14:34] <arkanabar> GridCube, how do I find those?
[14:35] <arkanabar> oh, there they are.
[14:45] <prjkt> hi what's the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu?
[14:46] <GridCube> one uses xfce the other unity
[14:51] <jrr> how can I get to the empathy accounts configurator?
[14:52] <jrr> I think I set it up under gnome or unity.. it seems totally absent from xfce
[14:54] <GridCube> if you click on the messaging icon in the indicators plugin, doesnt it has asettings option?
[14:54] <GridCube> havent used empathy in while
[14:54] <prjkt> okay
[14:54] <GridCube> prjkt, really there is no much difference beside that
[14:54] <jrr> the tray icon only shows/hides the buddy list
[14:55] <GridCube> the basics of ubuntu and xubuntu are the same, the only thing that changes its the windows manager
[14:55] <jrr> GridCube: and the settings thing, right?
[14:55] <GridCube> jrr, opening empathy from the applications menu?
[14:55] <jrr> from the buddy list, there's 'accounts' and 'preferences'
[14:56] <GridCube> well preferences its where i would look for accounts
[14:56] <jrr> accounts brings up "System Settings", with only four things in it
[14:56] <GridCube> empathy never was much of settings heavy in my memory
[14:56] <jrr> there's seemingly no access to remove this account, for example
[14:58] <jrr> I think gnome-control-center is supposed to have an accounts thing which applies to empathy
[15:05] <GridCube> oh i see, well that sucks
[15:05] <GridCube> jrr, http://askubuntu.com/questions/202514/how-can-i-manage-empathy-online-accounts-in-lubuntu-12-10
[15:05] <GridCube> the answer should be the same
[15:05] <GridCube> but i would simply not use empathy
[15:15] <jrr> GridCube: that's my goal - but I need to extract my settings in order to drop them into pidgin!
[15:15] <jrr> grep to the rescue
[15:33] <GridCube> jrr, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+bug/1067901
[15:33] <GridCube> mark it as happen to me please
[16:25] <noel_one> hi there! where is the file where i can put nouveau to black list?
[16:28] <xubuntu276> Hi just installed Xbuntu 13.04 beta2 and did all updates.  On balance I'm pretty happy and could switch to this as I hate Unity and find Mate and Cinamon more frustrating than better then 10.4 Gnome2 was.
[16:29] <xubuntu276> My showstopper issus is I can't seem to get the session manager to resotre my workspaces after a logout or reboot.  Windows are position far differently than I'd left them.
[16:30] <GridCube> xubuntu276, please join #xubuntu-devel or #ubuntu+1 for 13.10 support :D
[16:30] <GridCube> 13.04
[16:31] <noel_one> how to put nouveau in black list in xubuntu?
[16:32] <xubuntu276> I though if the xterms would go to the right spot I could live with it, so thinking it was XFce Xterm not honoring positioning hints I used prefered applications to select gnome-xterm, but it crashed the system if I opened more than two xterms.  so I'm stuck with this issue of impropper session restores.
[16:34] <xubuntu276> I'm new to this chat thing, and found this by a Xubuntu.org web site link, how do I change channels?
[16:35] <jrr> xubuntu276: in most IRC clients it's /join #channel
[16:35] <jrr> but not sure about embedded website clients
[16:36] <noel_one> xubuntu276, try xchat
[16:36] <xubuntu276> OK I'm using some kind of web client
[16:36] <noel_one> jrr, do you know hot to blacklist nouveau?
[16:36] <jrr> nope.
[16:36] <noel_one> how*
[16:40] <noel_one> can i use this ubuntu howto to remove nouveau from xubuntu:http://linuxers.org/howto/how-remove-nouveau-drivers-ubuntu
[16:43] <GridCube> yes
[16:43] <GridCube> at that level ubuntu and xubuntu are the same
[17:10] <xubuntu305> hi everyone!
[17:12] <SunStar> hi
[17:33] <SuperLag> the network icon in the top panel... is that network-manager?
[17:33] <GridCube> nm indicator
[17:33] <GridCube> yes
[17:33] <SunStar> yeah click on that for config
[17:33] <SuperLag> I just want to know if it's something else, or if it's network-manager, so I can install add-ons for it and not bring in a bunch of unneeded Gnome stuff
[17:45] <abderraouf> hi
[17:45] <GridCube> !hi | abderraouf
[17:46] <abderraouf> i can't run the Ethernet card on the new 3.5 kernel
[17:46] <abderraouf> 3.5.0-27-generic
[17:46] <abderraouf> but on 3.5.0-25-generic it is working
[17:46] <abderraouf> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)
[17:47] <abderraouf> xubuntu 12.10 amd64
[18:28] <SpudDogg> hello all
[18:30] <SunStar> hi
[18:33] <SpudDogg> seems in xfce i keep losing my desktop effects (default shadows and whatnot)
[18:33] <SpudDogg> i gotta get on fixing that
[18:48] <shreebles> hello everyone
[18:49] <baizon> hi shreebles
[18:49] <lderan> hey shreebles
[18:49] <shreebles> i have a question regarding the betas
[18:49] <shreebles> which is superior: install xubuntu beta 1 or install ubuntu beta 2 and get xfce-desktop via synaptic?
[18:50] <knome> shreebles, depends what you want.
[18:50] <knome> shreebles, there's a xubuntu beta 2 too.
[18:51] <shreebles> nice, did not know#
[18:51] <shreebles> what i want is a relatively stable, but really cutting edge distro with kernel 3.8 and nvidia support from the get go :)
[18:52] <xubuntu323> Where is the link for the MD5 sum for xubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso?
[18:53] <baizon> xubuntu323: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/12.04.2/release/
[18:55] <xubuntu323> OK, I see now, but I used the torrent download so did not stumble upon this.
[18:55] <xubuntu323> Thanks for your help
[18:55] <baizon> np
[19:24] <shreebles> is anyone else said that (x)ubuntu isnt rolling release yet?
[19:24] <shreebles> *sad
[19:26]  * bekks isnt.
[19:27] <heoyea> use arch then
[19:28] <shreebles> hm i like fuduntu better
[19:28] <shreebles> but gnome2 is boooring
[19:36] <shreebles> bekks, why do you prefer release cycle over rolling?
[19:36] <bekks> shreebles: Because I want long term support.
[19:37] <shreebles> bekks: do you use 12.04 LTS?
[19:37] <bekks> Yes.
[19:38] <shreebles> so upgrade every 2 years? or reinstall
[19:38] <bekks> Nope. Upgrade in 2017.
[19:41] <shreebles> nice, if you dont need the newest kernel
[19:42] <bekks> currently, I am running 3.9.0-rc6.
[19:45] <shreebles> wow
[19:45] <shreebles> and its still supported despite the new kernel?
[19:46] <bekks> All problems related to the kernel arent supported - I think I know what I am doing there :P
[19:48] <shreebles> cool, but makes me wonder that someone who installs the latest kernel still cares about LTS
[19:49] <bekks> I just dont want to mess around with updating my userland every 6 months like others do. Or every few days like on rolling releases.
[19:56] <shreebles> hm i will go for xubuntu then for my desktop
[19:56] <shreebles> im using fuduntu on my laptop and its rolling, no issues so far
[19:57] <David-A> with rolling release, they would still have occasional LTS releases, wouldn't they
[19:59] <bekks> David-A: You cant mix static release and rolling release.
[20:01] <David-A> not in the same system, but people who like LTS still have that choice
[21:25] <martinor> hola?
[21:26] <lderan> martinor hi
[21:26] <r3negade> any way to off the screen with a command?
[21:26] <r3negade> ...without sudo
[21:27] <lderan> as in turn it off?
[21:28] <r3negade> yes. turn off the lcd output + backlight
[21:28] <TheSheep> r3negade: xrandr --output name-of-your-screen off
[21:28] <TheSheep> r3negade: you can get the list of names running xrandr without parameters
[21:30] <genii-around> xset dpms force off
[21:32] <r3negade> genii-around: works perfectly! thank you!
[21:32] <genii-around> r3negade: You're welcome
[22:01] <Lukaszz> hello
[22:02] <Lukaszz> can someone help me?
[22:02] <pleia2> !ask
[22:02] <Myrtti> difficult to know without knowing what your problem is
[22:02] <xubuntu710> heeey
[22:02] <xubuntu710> tengo un problema
[22:02] <xubuntu710> la instalacion no termina
[22:02] <knome> !es | xubuntu710
[22:03] <Lukaszz> I just installed xubuntu, but when I run computer I have no system selection screen between xubuntu and XP
[22:03] <Lukaszz> Is there any way to fix it?
[22:04] <David-A> Lukaszz: did you select "dual boot/side by side" when you installed?
[22:04] <Lukaszz> yes
[22:05] <GridCube> Lukaszz, on a terminal run: sudo update-grub
[22:09] <Lukaszz> Ok, thanks
[22:22] <Lukaszz> I have one more problem, when I run computer, when I run computer, monitor turn of after few seconds and turn on again when xubuntu is loaded
[23:29] <javierito> hello all
[23:29] <javierito> i like start the cd installation last xubuntu in "alternate mode" (no graphic) in one old cpu
[23:29] <javierito> its posible? that version no have alternate cd :(
[23:30] <knome> there's no alternatives after 12.04
[23:30] <javierito> i hate the new installations modes xD
[23:31] <pleia2> you can use the ubuntu core image and select the xubuntu desktop when it prompts (it will download it all then, so it will take some time)
[23:31] <knome> !minimal
[23:31] <pleia2> there we go
[23:32] <javierito> ty pleia2, i go to read this doc :D


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[17:47] <Laney> s390x autopkgtesting was down, but now should be back up
[18:31] <teward> i've seen a large # of arm64 autopkgtests been stuck on 'in progress' for a while, is this normal?
[18:31] <teward> (only noticed because `nginx` package)
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[19:03] <mwhudson> teward: iirc there are/were some infra issues meaning that the arm64 testers were getting though jobs slowly
[19:04] <mwhudson> might be fixed now? the queues seem to be coming down finally (if not very quickly)
[19:09] <Laney> it's being ground through
[19:09] <Laney> not that slowly, but there was a backlog
[19:10] <Laney> KDE tests use the autopkgtest machines as buildds so they seriously strain it, unfortunately
[19:12] <mwhudson> yeah kde and perl on $foo-changes are bad news for anyone else :)
[19:13] <Laney> at least the perl ones run fast
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[19:17] <slangasek> Laney: should we consider turning up a few more arm64 runners?  We went down from 40 to 30, and it does seem slower than the other archs
[19:24] <slangasek> Laney: spot-checking the graphs, it seems arm64 may be clearing the queue about 30% slower than the next slowest arch (i386)
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[20:43] <tsimonq2> Large autopkgtest queues on arm64 are stalling the KDE Frameworks 5.41 transition :/
[20:45] <tsimonq2> Any chance we could kick it up a notch or are we just gonna have to wait for the 700 tests to clear the queue while all other arches are done?
[20:48] <ahasenack> I've seen test queues lasting 2 weeks in the past
[20:48] <ahasenack> bad times
[20:48] <ahasenack> I think that was the glibc transition in artful iirc
[20:55] <doko> tsimonq2: well, that's because the kde packagers are misusing autopkg test resources, rebuilding the app in each autopkg test ...
[20:57] <tsimonq2> doko: I'll look into it, you might be right
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[23:24] <tsimonq2> slangasek, infinity: Should a retry fix this? http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/lubuntu-next/bionic/daily-live-20171213.log
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[23:24] <tsimonq2> (it might not be the only failure with the same root cause, whether it')
[23:24] <tsimonq2> grr
[23:24] <tsimonq2> s/it'/it's livefs or something else/
[23:28] <slangasek> tsimonq2: I would expect a retry might fix it; and if a retry doesn't fix it then we definitely should investigate
[23:30] <tsimonq2> slangasek: Sure.
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[14:04] <niluje> this build fails on jenkins: https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/job/cloud-init-ci/4/
[14:04] <niluje> but it works locally
[14:04] <niluje> any idea why anyone?
[14:14] <niluje> oh, found I guess.
[14:15] <dpb1> what did you find
[14:17] <niluje> it was working locally because I was running unittests on a scaleway instance
[14:22] <niluje> ok, should be fixed
[14:22] <niluje> just have to wait until the build is retriggered
[14:22] <dpb1> niluje: missing a mock?  something like that?
[14:22] <niluje> exactly
[14:22] <dpb1> k
[14:28] <niluje> annnd that's actually not good yet, there's still mocking issues :p
[14:29] <dpb1> hehe
[14:36] <blackboxsw> morning folks
[14:45] <blackboxsw> powersj: I'm looking over the proposed changes failing https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/job/cloud-init-integration-proposed-x/73/console  it's related to the branch smoser landed last night
[14:45] <blackboxsw> he switched bash calls in unit test setup. trying to reproduce the issue here
[14:47] <powersj> blackboxsw: so that test uses what is in proposed, which shouldn't change unless he did another upload
[14:50] <blackboxsw> hmm, ohh right, I just keyed in on the error traceback mentioning bash and made a quick assumption. right. Looking more closely
[14:51] <niluje> https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/job/cloud-init-ci/5/nodes=metal-amd64/console
[14:51] <niluje> any idea why the permission denied here?
[14:51] <niluje> the mock seems ok to me
[14:52] <blackboxsw> niluje: looking over the changes that landed there. it feels like the unit test is leaking a call .
[14:54] <niluje> i'm wondering if it's not because the tests are run as non root
[14:55] <niluje> when running tox locally I have a RuntimeError: Failed running ['git', 'describe', '--match=[0-9]*'] [rc=128] (, fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything.
[14:55] <niluje> lol ok
[14:55] <niluje> git remote add lp https://git.launchpad.net/cloud-init && git fetch lp fixes the issue :p
[14:55] <niluje> my clone doesn't have all the tags
[14:56] <powersj> yeah have to have the tags so it can run maketarball which uses the tags to determine the version.
[14:56] <niluje> maybe it could be optional
[15:00]  * niluje found the error -_-
[15:22] <blackboxsw> niluje: looks like you are mocking 'http://<IP_ADDRESS>/user_data/cloud-init but get_data calls just "user_data/cloud-init" is that right?
[15:27] <niluje> that's the not the issue
[15:28] <niluje> I'm mocking the HTTP call correctly
[15:28] <niluje> but I'm using a requests adadpter to bind on a specific source port (required by the Scaleway API)
[15:28] <niluje> which requires to be root
[15:28] <niluje> so I also need to fake the bind
[15:28] <niluje> will be good in a second
[15:34] <niluje> annnddd it should work now.
[15:34] <niluje> sorry for the failing builds :(
[15:35] <blackboxsw> thanks for the alert & fix
[15:35] <niluje> blackboxsw: is that you who retrigger the build?
[15:35] <niluje> or is it automatic?
[15:36] <niluje> retriggers*
[15:36] <blackboxsw> niluje: I'll check the builder to see ( I can retrigger if you've already pushed
[15:37] <niluje> (I pushed)
[15:37] <powersj> if you push again, we check for new reviews every 15mins.
[15:37] <niluje> oh, ok
[15:37] <niluje> A week or two ago I tested jenkins blue ocean
[15:37] <niluje> I see your are using jenkins-job-builder
[15:38] <niluje> using a Jenkinsfile + blue ocean is really a nice alternative
[15:38] <niluje> https://s3.amazonaws.com/img0.recordit.co/QRyeaiscAS.mp4?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAINSRFOQXTN4DT46A&Expires=1497631105&Signature=SipNfzd6Mk1vE5DP8KjcCE1972g%3D
[15:38] <niluje> if you want to see what it looks like :)
[15:39] <niluje> (it was just a job to discover the features of the blue ocean interface, it basically does nothing)
[15:40] <powersj> wow that is a clean interface
[15:41] <niluje> yep
[15:41] <powersj> I do have a new merge review pipeline coming, I was hoping to have it up today, but ran into an issue with jenkins-launchpad-plugin. I'll try to resolve that Monday.
[15:42] <powersj> Essentially for every merge we will run this: https://jenkins.ubuntu.com/server/job/cloud-init-ci-nightly/
[15:42] <niluje> and with this setup, you only need to create a job from jenkins and fill a git URL
[15:42] <niluje> containing the Jenkinsfile
[15:42] <niluje> so since the job configuration is saved on git, you no longer have to use jenkins job builder :)
[15:42] <powersj> yeah that would be nice
[15:43] <niluje> can you show me the corresponding jenkinsfile powersj ?
[15:43] <powersj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24873098/
[15:43] <blackboxsw> thx powers for the build kick
[15:44] <niluje> oO
[15:44] <niluje> is it the full jenkinsfile powersj ? or just a part of it
[15:44] <niluje> I thought they had to start with "pipeline {"
[15:45] <powersj> That's what I have inside the pipeline section right now. It isn't checking out from git, so I'm not sure if that affects it.
[15:45] <niluje> ok
[15:45] <niluje> I thought the first block inside a "stage" block needed to be a "steps" block
[15:46] <niluje> http://blackhole.brmzkw.info/2017-06-16/Jenkinsfile <- one of my tests with jenkinsfile
[15:47] <powersj> interesting
[15:47] <powersj> it does say "required" on the doc site
[15:47] <niluje> powersj: the "steps" section?
[15:47] <powersj> yeah
[15:47] <niluje> yeahh. build is passing. Thanks for your help
[15:48] <niluje> yep, without steps I had an error
[15:48] <niluje> honestly I'm totally blind when working with jenkins
[15:48] <niluje> they have the worst documentation possible
[15:49] <niluje> in case you are interested (because I lost some time to search how to do it): it is possible, in a pipeline, to interactively ask for administrator input (like "do you want to approve this build? yes/no" or "can you fill this text input so I can later use the content int he build? <input value>")
[15:49] <niluje> I have Jenkinsfiles doing that
[15:49] <niluje> it is also possible to use the jenkins API to fill these inputs
[15:50] <powersj> that is cool, the thing I would like to figure out is parallel steps
[15:50] <niluje> wait for it :p
[15:50] <powersj> that way I can reduce our CI time
[15:50] <powersj> haha
[15:50] <niluje> powersj: http://blackhole.brmzkw.info/2017-06-16/JENKINS.md
[15:51] <niluje> (if you see errors feel free to report :))
[15:51] <niluje> i wrote this documentation for my coworkers who discover jenkin
[15:51] <niluje> s
[15:51] <powersj> nice thx!
[16:01]  * powersj look's at proposed failures
[16:16] <powersj> blackboxsw: I am 90% certain it is due to me updating the version of pylxd on the system
[16:23] <powersj> blackboxsw: it is. we are currently playing games with the version of tox + pylxd + lxd because of some incompatibilities between the versions. The backported code does not work with the latest lxd + pylxd combo, even when running with a tox specified version of lxd.
[16:24] <blackboxsw> bah
[16:24] <powersj> because we have two good clean runs of proposed I am going to say we are good, disable the job for now so we don't keep randomly running and failing and re-enable for the next proposed test.
[16:24] <powersj> bad timing in we had an upload to proposed + broken pylxd + major update to integration tests
[16:26] <blackboxsw> powersj: I was wondering  if this is also impacted by  read-dependencies now attempting to upgrade system-packages each integration test run now as well
[16:26] <powersj> It may, but on an LTS I would hope it would not break
[16:48] <ajorg> is it okay to delete a branch in my fork once it's been merged?
[16:49] <blackboxsw> ajorg: should be fine there
[21:34] <blackboxsw> ok 4 SRU bug verifications needed still
[21:50]  * blackboxsw is setting up an azure account
[22:47] <blackboxsw> found two other bugs that were part of the SRU, but weren't listed in our trello card. adding them now


[17:27] <pragmaticenigma> dax: Is there a reason behind your message?
[17:27] <dax> calling for ops when there's already an op dealing with the issue seems a bit amusing
[17:29] <pragmaticenigma> dax: I wasn't aware you were an op, and comments like that don't create a lot of confidence in moderation being taken seriously
[17:29] <dax> ok
[17:30] <pragmaticenigma> Thanks for helping keep the channel a safe place
[17:33] <dax> one of these days i'm gonna !no, ops is <reply> BEEP!
[17:36] <dax> (not really, but i *am* considering making a list of people in that factoid who've actually appeared in #ubuntu in the last year or two, 'cause i suspect it's a bit shorter than the factoid ;)
[17:42] <genii> My response time varies wildly while I'm here at work
[18:14] <hggdh> dax: and yes, we need to adjust the !ops call (at least)
[23:23] <h00k> :[
[23:29] <hggdh> tomfarr_: please do not idle in this channel


[07:53] <klepas> moin
[12:07] <Mizar> hi all
[12:08] <Mizar> where can I find an image or thumbnail with:  download Ubuntu ?
[10:09] <artnay> hey
[10:10] <artnay> check out http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/02/14/151215.shtml and grep omeg
[10:16] <Tm_T> hmm
[10:16] <Tm_T> so true
[10:17] <artnay> I should update this one to dapper
[10:17] <Tm_T> "this one" ?
[10:17] <artnay> I was on the verge of installing damnsmall on this computer, but decided to stick with ubuntu
[10:18] <artnay> P3 500 MHz & 128 MB
[10:18] <artnay> I've disabled lots of services, uninstalled programs (due the 4,3 GB HD), compiled a new kernel etc.
[10:18] <artnay> still lagging a bit
[10:18] <Tm_T> ah
[10:19] <Tm_T> 2.6.15 kernel is faster than 2.6.12 (atleast here)
[10:19] <artnay> it's because of memory, I'll get some old SDRAMs hopefully on this week
[10:19] <mhz> artnay: hey
[10:20] <artnay> I'm waiting for a new mobo from Asus
[10:20] <Tm_T> we do need some "bosses" here
[10:20] <artnay> mhz: hi, long time no irc
[10:20] <Tm_T> someone to say what to do
[10:20] <artnay> Tm_T: that's about canonical
[10:20] <Tm_T> aye
[10:20] <artnay> they haven't covered that area yet
[10:20] <mhz> artnay: what if you did: a) install ubuntu 'server install', b) install xubuntu-desktop, c) the apps you need
[10:21] <artnay> I think it was klepas who said he was told they're getting a manager some time soon
[10:21] <artnay> at LCA
[10:21] <Tm_T> artnay: yay!
[10:21] <artnay> mhz: it's that stupid ubuntu-desktop
[10:21] <artnay> it depends on lots of things that I do not need
[10:22] <mhz> artnay: yeah, I only keep it because I test edubuntu
[10:22] <mhz> artnay: however, I am working on an edubuntu-lite :)
[10:22] <artnay> well I'm not going to stay with this comp for a long time, that's for sure
[10:22] <mhz> (so far, it will install xfce4)
[10:22] <artnay> waiting for RMA
[10:23] <mhz> RMA ??
[10:23] <artnay> hopefully it won't take weeks anymore
[10:23] <mhz> xubuntu-desktop is aimed to be free of gnome
[10:27] <artnay> xfce is fine, but I was thinking some more extreme such as ion
[10:27] <artnay> so I can grab off a few SDRAMs ;)
[10:39] <artnay> so the next icon set... would it be too much of fork if the *yasis theme would use some tango action icons? that way you'd have a more unified desktop when there's lots of tango skins for different applications
[10:40] <artnay> take firefox as an example, and what user sees while looking at the default ubuntu packaged fx. it would blend into desktop that way
[10:41] <artnay> well not maybe 100 percently, but still the action icons would be the same and would probably make the user experience more sane
[10:41] <artnay> any thoughts?
[11:00] <artnay> oh crap, gnome-look seems to be down (at least for me). does anyone have a package for metacity theme called unity? what's the license?
[11:04] <artnay> and how thick should the metacity border be? does usability team have a word on that?
[11:18] <artnay> so does gnome-look work for you? it replies but http doesn't seem to be responsive
[11:49] <artnay> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Evaluation/MetacityTheme - unity is now added
[11:51] <artnay> any idea why gfxboottheme has its own title on /Artwork?
[11:52] <artnay> damn, I can't help it I find /Artwork hard to navigate