[00:04] <whoever> how do i use/ launch unity-calander-lens ? I installed it , and restarted  and i have tried calendar, unity-calendar-lens  and command not found, can someone assist
[00:05] <whoever> am i missing soething that i don't know about
[00:07] <ijwyn> hey all, I hope someone can help as I'm fairly new to ubuntu (though not to linux) and am having some odd issues with this machine
[00:08] <ijwyn> so I'm running ubuntu and gnome on a dedicated server
[00:08] <ijwyn> been running for about a year without ever crashing, so it's been fairly stable
[00:08] <daftykins> but...?
[00:08] <reisio> but now he has to update it :p
[00:08] <ijwyn> but the last few days, it's been acting weird... first the task bar disappeared on me, than apps started crashing right and left
[00:08] <reisio> 's'cause you updated it :p
[00:09] <ijwyn> well that's the thing, I can't even update as the update manager is one of the things that keeps crashing :-o
[00:09] <reisio> if you truly didn't alter the software, then it's a hardware issue
[00:09] <digital> ijwyn: what recent changes have you made? (if any)
[00:09] <ijwyn> I take it this means it's a known issue?
[00:09] <reisio> but that's unlikely
[00:09] <ijwyn> i doubt it's a hardware issue as it's an OVH account, I don't have any control over that in any case
[00:10] <daftykins> ijwyn: run memtest
[00:10] <ijwyn> and I haven't done any specific changes, aside from going with the updates up until the app started crashing
[00:10] <reisio> I also doubt it
[00:10] <daftykins> oh OVH
[00:10] <reisio> you probably updated something :p
[00:10] <digital> ijwyn: it could be a ram issue.  are you able to take the server offline for a while?
[00:10] <ijwyn> yeah, I'm starting to think I might have updated something I shouldn't have
[00:10] <reisio> :p
[00:11] <reisio> go through your log, revert the most recent updates
[00:11] <ijwyn> digital: I haven't tried it, but I did do a reboot, hoping it would fix the issue, and while it did fix the task bar all the apps still keep crashing, so the problem is still there
[00:11] <ijwyn> daftykins: hmm, i don't seem to have memtest installed
[00:13] <daftykins> ijwyn: it's a boot CD thing as opposed to an application, but since you say it's not really a physical PC it's not a relevant idea
[00:13] <digital> ijwyn: if you can cope with the server being down for a little while, run Memtest86 on it.  If that crashes you have a hardware fault somewhere.  If it reports a ram issue you've found the problem and if it says the ram is ok and doesn't crash, you know it's a software issue.
[00:13] <ijwyn> daftykins: oh ok
[00:13] <daftykins> ijwyn: can you run CLI update commands?
[00:14] <ijwyn> yeah, I'm connected to the server two ways, one is through a graphical interface (nxclient) where stuff keeps crashing, the other is a shell connection which seems more stable
[00:14] <ijwyn> digital: yeah, I could probably do that as I'm not actively using the server yet, it's still in experimental stages, heh
[00:14] <digital> hmmm, you might have upset gnome somehow.
[00:15] <digital> ijwyn: i just think it will give you the most conclusive results.
[00:15] <ijwyn> it's quite possible, as I'm noticing KDE apps seem stable (Krusader, for instance, hasn't crashed once) whereas stuff like the update manager, firefox or other gnome-specific apps (even settings stuff) crash instantly, or almost instantly
[00:16] <digital> Has anyone here installed CUDA in ubuntu?
[00:16] <gboy> brand new to ubuntu, just got it on a chromebook, having a hard time running Tor, getting a Vidalia error - I'm a real beginner
[00:17] <ijwyn> digital: I'll give it a shot... could you tell me how to run that Memtest86 thing though, if the server is down?
[00:19] <digital> ijwyn: Have a look here - http://www.memtest86.com/download.htm - I always use the linux/usb option.  just boot it up and the test is pretty straightforward.
[00:20] <ubuntu> Hi
[00:20] <ubuntu> I need help
[00:20] <gboy> not sure how this works
[00:20] <ijwyn> eh, problem is usb would require physical access to the server, which i don't have... heck, come to think of it, i'm not even sure I could run this because though I can shut down the server, it's considered as a problem by OVH and they manually reset it, typically within a few minutes, hmm
[00:21] <digital> aaah, they'd probably have to run memtest64 then
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> ubuntu, stat your problem to the channel for help.
[00:22] <ijwyn> i have no idea
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> state*
[00:23] <Guest82489> I've installed Ubuntu 13.04,  from Windows 7 using a USB - I had use Pen Drive Linux's USB Installer. I try and install it. & all I get is failling
[00:23] <ijwyn> btw, if it helps, I get a lot of core dumps everytime I try to start something from a terminal
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, Have you resized W7 from its disk management and left an unallocated space? Do you know the limitation in amount and types of partitions on a single HD?
[00:24] <semitones_tea> Hello!
[00:24] <semitones_tea> Just for clarity's sake, if I put a bash script in /etc/init.d, that gets run on boot, right?
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, If you are trying a wubi install, it is not supported anymore.
[00:25] <Guest82489> wilee-nilee: No I didn't touch any of that
[00:26] <Guest82489> I'm running a it live, could I re-download it and burn it again, also how much space do I need on the USb
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, You want to resize windows with its partitioner and reboot so it runs the auto chkdsk, then install ubuntu in the unallocated space being aware of the limitations in types and amount of partitions.
[00:26] <Guest82489> I've lost windows
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, So what is your final goal here?
[00:27] <Guest82489> I don't know wilee
[00:27] <ijwyn> digital: so let's assume it's a software issue (which I'm guessing is the most likely scenario) how would I go about fixing it, or figuring out what exactly is causing this in the first place?
[00:28] <Guest82489> If I re-download it burn it to  a USB would that work
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, You can tab complete nicks so we are informed your talking to us if so. Figure out what you want and we can help. Is windows actually gone or just not booting?
[00:29] <digital> ijwyn: have a look through your log files as soon as something weird happens.  Hopefully there will be a clue in there.
[00:29] <Guest82489> Complete gone
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, It would be nice to see what is on the HD can you on the live cd take a screenshot of gparted and imagbin it.
[00:30] <ijwyn> digital: wow, I can't even do that... gedit crashes, and so does... vi, of all things!!! what the heck...
[00:30] <philwong> question, can you effectivley run ubuntu from a usb stick?
[00:31] <Guest82489> Oh right okay
[00:31] <philwong> or is it brutally slow
[00:31] <ijwyn> it just says "segmentation fault" in the terminal
[00:31] <ijwyn> this is seriously messed up
[00:31] <dlam> i got endless stream of this SSL error in /var/log/syslog,  anyone know what to check?    "SSL error might have been: error:140940E5:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:ssl handshake failure"
[00:31] <dlam> maybe i gotta upgrade some package or something?
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> philwong, You can do a full install or a iso loaded with a persistent file, the persistent fills up though.
[00:31] <ironhalik> hmm, why is there no pygobject package in ubuntu 13.04? The site says there is a metpackage with this name, while apt can't see it
[00:31] <graingert> philwong: it's fine but why would you want to
[00:32] <philwong> well..
[00:32] <reisio> ironhalik: ask apt-file
[00:32] <graingert> ijwyn: sounds like something nasty
[00:32] <graingert> ijwyn: re-install?
[00:32] <philwong> I just dont want my main OS effected
[00:32] <philwong> I only use 1 HD
[00:32] <tgm4883> ironhalik, are you looking for python-gobject ?
[00:32] <ijwyn> I'm tempted to do that, but I fear I may lose a lot of data in the process, grrr
[00:32] <digital> ijwyn: try using nano from the terminal.
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> !who | Guest82489 if you do not use nicks we may miss your post.
[00:33] <ijwyn> digital: nice one! that one seems to work
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> !tab
[00:33] <elisa87> how can I mount an image without using sudo? I installed fuseiso but it is not recognized in the cluster with which I am working while it is recognized in my local machine. I am not authorized to use sudo for mount in the cluster and I was looking for a mount image which can work in user space

[00:33] <philwong> if I install ubuntu on a windows hardrive side by side under a different partition, will windows get slower?
[00:33] <ironhalik> tgm4883: well, I'm looking for https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygobject
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, type the first couple letters of who you are posting to then hit the tab to complete them.
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> philwong, no
[00:34] <ijwyn> *bangs head against wall*
[00:34] <digital> ijwyn: it's a simple yet powerful editor and if that doesn't run it's probably reinstall time.
[00:34] <ijwyn> now the terminal crashed and now nano segfaults too *rolls eyes*
[00:34] <philwong> ok\
[00:34] <tgm4883> ironhalik, so then yes?
[00:35] <Guest82489> What you mean?
[00:35] <graingert> Guest82489: change your change your nick name /nick somenick
[00:35] <ijwyn> ok, so reinstall time I guess, bah
[00:35] <tgm4883> ironhalik, do you want the source package or the binary package?
[00:35] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: wait what
[00:35] <graingert> ijwyn: use a live cd to do a backup
[00:35] <rlw980> there
[00:35] <graingert> rlw980: cool
[00:35] <ironhalik> tgm4883: yeah, but I don't have it under apt-get
[00:35] <digital> ijwyn: is that with no gui involved?
[00:35] <philwong> also, if after I want to delete the ubuntu partition, will that section of partition automatically become part of windows again?
[00:35] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: can you think of anything that might have caused this to happen?
[00:35] <ijwyn> graingert: can't, it's a remote server
[00:35] <philwong> or do I have to manually set that partition again
[00:35] <graingert> rlw980: now type grai[tab key]
[00:35] <ironhalik> tgm4883: thats what confuses me :>
[00:36] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: also, why on *earth* are you running a GUI on a server?
[00:36] <ijwyn> digital: tried both, segfaults in both cases, with and without the gui
[00:36] <rlw980> graingert,
[00:36] <tgm4883> ironhalik, well without any insight into what you WANT to do, I can't point you in a direction
[00:36] <graingert> rlw980: congrat
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> Guest82489, If I am speaking to you I type enough of your nick "Guest82489" to get the taping of the tab key to complete your whole nick this adds a comma and highlights to you that someone is addressing you.
[00:36] <graingert> wilee-nilee: they are called rlw980
[00:36] <tking> am trying to install thunderbird please how do i do it, i have the tar.bz2 file on my desktop please advise, its older version as i dont want the latest from the repository
[00:36] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: I have no idea what caused it, except for me doing regular updates, I guess I updated something I shouldn't have, heh
[00:37] <ijwyn> and I run a GUI because it's more practical and nxclient is there for that
[00:37] <graingert> tking: why do you want an old version?
[00:37] <graingert> tking: why do you want to compile from source?
[00:37] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: stuff segfaulting randomly shouldn't really happen and tends to either indicate dying hardware or some sort of intrusion
[00:37] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: <shrug> each to their own, but I don't see how it would be more practical
[00:37] <graingert> rlw980: please keep it to the channel
[00:37] <tgm4883> ironhalik, so let me ask, why do you want to install pygobject
[00:38] <ironhalik> tgm4883: I want to install this package :>
[00:38] <rlw980> How big does the USB has to be to make it bootable
[00:38] <tking> griangert, i dont need to compile it i guess, its because i want to grab emails with a plugin not compatible with the latest
[00:38] <ijwyn> I guess I could take it up with technical support, but I'm somewhat doubtful they'll be any use here...
[00:38] <ironhalik>  apt-cache show pygobject
[00:38] <ironhalik> N: Unable to locate package pygobject
[00:38] <digital> ijwyn: hmmm, that's not good. I can't think of anything you can try is the system is unstable.  Can you get someone to test the hardware?
[00:38] <tgm4883> ironhalik, so you just picked a random package name and thought "I think i'll try and install this"?
[00:38] <graingert> tking: why not install add-on compatibliy checker?
[00:38] <blckpythn> I think I made a mistake...
[00:38] <tking> graingert, how do i do that, never heard of it
[00:38] <gordonjcp> ironhalik: so, install it then
[00:39] <ironhalik> gordonjcp: N: Unable to locate package pygobject
[00:39] <ijwyn> digital: yeah, I guess technical support could *at least* do that... hmm, come to think of it I might be able to do it myself through the OVH web interface, I'm gonna have to check that
[00:39] <tgm4883> ironhalik, correct, that package doesn't exist
[00:39] <gordonjcp> ironhalik: well, that's not the name of the package
[00:39] <graingert> tking: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/
[00:39] <blckpythn> So, I installed cinnamon and was making changes and after an Alt+F2, r, enter, neither Cinnamon or Unity will load now.
[00:40] <funky> who here used storm on demand?
[00:40] <ironhalik> tgm4883: gordonjcp yet I can download it as a deb from launchpad :>
[00:40] <blckpythn> It loads when I log in as Guest but that's it.
[00:40] <tgm4883> ironhalik, where?
[00:40] <tking> so how do i use it to install what i want?
[00:40] <graingert> tking: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/checkcompatibility/?src=search
[00:41] <ironhalik> tgm4883: sorry, tar.gz
[00:41] <tgm4883> ironhalik, exactly
[00:41] <graingert> tking: install that then install your add-on
[00:41] <digital> ijwyn: if you can get nano to behave for long enough, you could see if there is anything interesting in the syslog.  If this was my server though, I'd be looking for hardware faults at this stage.
[00:41] <graingert> don't compile stuff from source it will break your debian when you run `sudo make install`
[00:41] <tgm4883> ironhalik, so as i asked before, why are you trying to install pyobject? You are obviously trying to install it because you need it for something else, so what else needs it?
[00:42] <ijwyn> digital: yeah, it does sound weird, I'll try another reboot it seems to be a bit more stable after it just starts up, so perhaps it'll give me enough time to look at those logs
[00:42] <tgm4883> ironhalik, unless you are actually trying to develop on pygobject, in which case, I can help you get the pygobject source
[00:42] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: anything in dmesg/syslog?
[00:43] <ironhalik> tgm4883: Im fiddling with gtk development, just my first look
[00:43] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: if it's a VPS, you must consider the possibility that the host machine is sick ;-)
[00:43] <tgm4883> ironhalik, in python?
[00:43] <ironhalik> tgm4883: from what I googled, pygobject is a metapackage that contains all packages needed for python gtk dev
[00:43] <ironhalik> tgm4883: yeah
[00:43] <tgm4883> ironhalik, python 2 or python 3?
[00:43] <ironhalik> 3
[00:43] <tgm4883> ironhalik, no, pygobject is not a metapackage
[00:43] <tgm4883> ironhalik, sec
[00:43] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: haven't been able to read it yet, as all my text editors are segfaulting :-o trying to reboot and see if one will hold up long enough for me to read through that stuff
[00:44] <tgm4883> ironhalik, you likely want python3-gi
[00:44] <tking> graingert, The email address crawler 3 could not be installed with thunderbird 17.07
[00:44] <graingert> tking: did you install the compatability check disabler?
[00:44] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: anything else segfaulting?  If normal binutils stuff is segfaulting that is starting to smell awfully like an intrusion
[00:44] <tking> graingert, yes
[00:44] <tking> i did
[00:44] <tking> and enabled it
[00:44] <ironhalik> tgm4883: yeah, reading through the package lists etc I figured that out. Just wasn't sure if Im not missing some modules by installing just python3-gi
[00:44] <tgm4883> ironhalik, if you want to do stuff with cairo as well, then you'll probably also want python3-gi-cairo
[00:45] <blckpythn> I have a feeling my issue is easy to solve, but I don't know where to begin
[00:45] <tgm4883> ironhalik, well, you're missing all the python 2 stuff for it. Which is fine if you're developing in python 3
[00:45] <graingert> tking: in about:config?
[00:45] <graingert> extensions.checkCompatibility
[00:45] <ironhalik> tgm4883: currently, I installed python-gobject-dev which seems to contain all needed packages
[00:45] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: well, almost everything is segfaulting, except it seems Krusader
[00:46] <ijwyn> I'm not sure I see the connection with an intrusion though? how would that make stuff segfault?
[00:46] <graingert> tking: duuude, thunderbird 3
[00:46] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: because frequently stuff that is not germane to the operation of the rootkit is disrupted to make it harder to track down what's going on
[00:46] <tking> graingert, what? please can u explain
[00:46] <graingert> tking: also a nasty spammy add-on
[00:46] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: what else is running on the server?
[00:46] <ironhalik> tgm4883: either way, I've got my first window drawn, so it seems to work. Thanks for the help
[00:46] <tgm4883> ironhalik, yw
[00:47] <Scrivener> Anyone know why Firefox doesn't seem to use Unity integration on my desktop installation but not laptop installation? Same level of updates, same Ubuntu extensions in each (default installation in each), both on 13.04.
[00:47] <Scrivener> Laptop looks far prettier due to Firefox not having its own bulky border in addition to the menus that appear in the Ubuntu panel.
[00:47] <tking> graingert, i want to remove emails from my inbox and add them to my address book that why i need the addon because its tidious to add emails 1 by 1
[00:47] <tking> it works with tunderbird 7.0.1
[00:48] <graingert> tking: emails can't ho into the address book
[00:48] <graingert> s/ho/go/
[00:48] <tking> ?
[00:48] <graingert> do you mean email addresses or emails
[00:48] <graingert> when you say emails
[00:48] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: well, not much at this point, I'm mostly testing the server, and since I'd just rebooted it didn't have anything fancy, no apache or httpd yet
[00:48] <tking> graingert, email address, from sender
[00:49] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: the fact that it's got a GUI and some remote control software on it makes me deeply suspicious
[00:49] <tking> graingert, it crawls the FROM field and save the emails
[00:49] <ijwyn> nano's working again, yay
[00:49] <blckpythn> Scrivener, I tried asking a question too, I think they're really caught up in this other guy's email issue.
[00:49] <tgm4883> ijwyn, this is a VPS? Who is it from?
[00:50] <graingert> hmm
[00:50] <Scrivener> blckpythn, it's alright, I'll just repost my question a little later.
[00:50] <digital> anyone had problems with ubuntu and nvidia drivers?
[00:50] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: just looking at the nxclient stuff
[00:50] <ijwyn> tgm4883: the server is with OVH
[00:50] <graingert> tking: bitch at the add-on developer
[00:50] <Scrivener> And continue research on my own. Googling this issue yields something rather opposite though.
[00:50] <Scrivener> There was a widespread problem of Firefox's menus disappearing.
[00:51] <Scrivener> But in my case it has a border instead of integrating with Unity.
[00:51] <blckpythn> Google didn't find squat for mine
[00:51] <Scrivener> And I don't know why.
[00:51] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: that nxclient stuff looks sketchy as all hell
[00:51] <tking> graingert, how do i install the older version of thunderbird 17.0.1 i got the tar.bz2 file which i already extracted
[00:51] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: wipe and reinstall
[00:52] <graingert> tking: why not install the debian package?
[00:52] <tking> cant find it i guess
[00:53] <tgm4883> gordonjcp, are you sure they don't install that by default?
[00:53] <gordonjcp> tgm4883: no, they definitely do not
[00:53] <gordonjcp> tgm4883: I have a couple of OVH VPSes and a kimsufi box
[00:53] <tgm4883> ok
[00:53] <ijwyn> is there a way to select everything in nano? not seeing an option for that in the man file...
[00:53] <ijwyn> kimsufi is what I have to be more specific
[00:53] <tking> graingert, i cant find the deb file older version
[00:53] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: it's either faulty or 0wned
[00:54] <graingert> :(
[00:54] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: either way, now is a great time to contact tech support
[00:54] <ijwyn> yeah, that's what I'm thinking too :-o
[00:54] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: if you haven't got anything important on it, wipe and reinstall
[00:54] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: if it comes back to life and works properly, then it wasn't faulty, it was just not under your control
[00:54] <ijwyn> well that's problem, I have quite a few things on there that I'd like to keep, and since I never managed to get a working ftp connection to the box, it's a bit of a problem :-o
[00:55] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: and stay away from stuff like nxclient
[00:55] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: spend a fiver, get an OVH VPS for a month?
[00:55] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: ftp is a great way to get broken into
[00:55] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: use sftp
[00:56] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: well, the thing is, I'd tried a number of other clients and nx was the only one that gave decent results (ie. a connection that wouldn't be amazingly slow)
[00:56] <Marek76> hello
[00:56] <digital> I use ftp, but only with virtual users
[00:56] <Marek76> looking for channel about edc17
[00:56] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: right, but don't use graphical stuff on servers
[00:56] <Marek76> ecu's
[00:56] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: it makes no sense
[00:56] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: what's the difference between a VPS and kimsufi?
[00:56] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: a kimsufi is an actual physical box
[00:56] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: a VPS is a virtual machine, hosted somewhere on a physical box
[00:57] <ijwyn> and that's more secure?
[00:57] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: well, security isn't the issue
[00:57] <mrsudoer> VPS, right?
[00:57] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: it'll give you somewhere to stash your files while you unbork your kimsufi
[00:57] <ijwyn> well, if I got hacked, it would be, no? ;-)
[00:57] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: if you don't pay them next month, then in another month or so they'll just wipe it
[00:57] <tgm4883> SSH is a good tool for managing servers
[00:58] <philwong> can you run ubuntu from a external HD?
[00:58] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: that's fine, because you'll have got your server fixed and copied everything back by then
[00:58] <gordonjcp> philwong: yes, slowly
[00:58] <gordonjcp> philwong: USB3 might be okay
[00:58] <ijwyn> well, actually, I also have a hubiC account, if that's what you mean (ie. cloud) but it's not working very well and have been having trouble connecting to it in ubuntu
[00:58] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: oh don't even bother with that, just copy the stuff across from one machine to the other directly
[00:59] <gordonjcp> scp -r ~/stuff_i_want_to_keep mygroovynewvps.mydomain.mytld:
[00:59] <ijwyn> *blinks* how would I do that? I thought cloud was the way to do it
[00:59] <gordonjcp> bam
[00:59] <gordonjcp> done
[00:59] <ijwyn> aaaahhh
[00:59] <ijwyn> didn't know that, lol
[00:59] <gordonjcp> especially since it won't even leave OVH most likely and go hooning across their gigabit ethernet
[00:59] <ijwyn> would I run that from OVH or my home box?
[01:00] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: you'd run it from your OVH machine, pointing at your other OVH machine ;-)
[01:00] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: and you really, really need to not be using a GUI for managing your server
[01:00] <gordonjcp> what exactly do you do, on the GUI, anyway?
[01:00] <ijwyn> oh, I was thinking of sending it to my own machine, but that could work...
[01:00] <gordonjcp> nothing server-y has a GUI interface
[01:00] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: if it's not a lot of stuff and you've got a fast connection you can copy it home
[01:01] <ijwyn> well, let's put it this way: I have no patience for cli, it tends to drive me nuts, gui's are just quicker (ie. more practical as I said before)
[01:01] <gordonjcp> scp -r myknackeredkimsufi.mydomain.mytld:/path/to/stuff .
[01:01] <ijwyn> I have no memory, so remembering all the commands and options is a big pain for me
[01:01] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: what do you actually use the GUI for though?
[01:01] <Scrivener> Externalized vs. internalized knowledge
[01:01] <gordonjcp> there is no way to manage anything on a Linux server from a GUI
[01:02] <tgm4883> ijwyn, probably worth mentioning that if the box is owned, that you shouldn't be backing up any binaries/scripts from there and that you should blow away any SSH keys you may have
[01:02] <gordonjcp> tgm4883: +1
[01:02] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: everything, I use it like my home machine, to run stuff, I'll double click an icon to run Krusader for instance, which is a great file manager which I couldn't run in a shell account
[01:02] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: I am struggling to understand why you'd do that
[01:02] <tgm4883> I would also argue that SSH is faster for server management
[01:02] <ijwyn> tgm4883: nah, no binaries, was mainly thinking videos and music stuff
[01:02] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: how would you manage Apache, for example?
[01:03] <chaotix> would anyone recommend that i install keypassx? it is in the software center on the meain screen
[01:03] <gordonjcp> chaotix: do you have a lot of passwords to remember?
[01:03] <tgm4883> chaotix, uh, do you want to use keypassx?
[01:03] <chaotix> i would like to
[01:03] <tgm4883> I use lastpass
[01:03] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: it's a daemon, doesn't really need managing, I just run it like I do on my own machine runs in the background
[01:03] <tgm4883> chaotix, well if you want to use it, then yes, you do need to install it ;)
[01:04] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: I don't think you really understand servers
[01:04] <chaotix> my question was, how was your experience with it
[01:04] <gordonjcp> anyway, it's 2am, I'm off to bed
[01:04] <tgm4883> chaotix, it works really well. We use it at work.
[01:04] <gordonjcp> it's hard to type with this cat asleep on my hand
[01:04] <ijwyn> g'night, and thanks for the help gordonjcp
[01:04] <ijwyn> lol @ the cat comment
[01:05] <tgm4883> chaotix, I run into some bug that it doesn't display the whole password when trying to view it, but a copy&paste grabs the whole password
[01:05] <chaotix> tgm4883, thanks
[01:05] <blckpythn> I have a question
[01:05] <tgm4883> blckpythn, shoot
[01:05] <blckpythn> So, I installed cinnamon and was making changes and after an Alt+F2, r, enter, neither Cinnamon or Unity will load now. Where do I begin?
[01:05] <shiman6> is there a bug in ubuntu for sound? I have an x61s, and the higher i turn up the volume, the choppier the sound, but only when it's on the built in speakers
[01:05] <tgm4883> ijwyn, I must echo gordonjcp. Run servers with a minimal attack footprint
[01:06] <tgm4883> blckpythn, probably with ~/.xsession-errors
[01:06] <gordonjcp> tgm4883: yup
[01:06] <blckpythn> Ok...problem, I can't even get a terminal
[01:06] <tgm4883> shiman6, I'm sure there are lots of bugs with sound ;)
[01:06] <tgm4883> blckpythn, not even with ctrl+alt+F1
[01:06] <shiman6> tgm4883: why, thank you ;p
[01:06] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: a closed-source binary-only "remote access" app is not safe
[01:06] <blckpythn> Correction, I can get a terminal :P
[01:07] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: prove that nxclient isn't just sending all your keystrokes to some random criminal in Russia, or the US
[01:07] <blckpythn> I get a permission denied with ~/.xsession-errors
[01:07] <gordonjcp> ijwyn: you can pretty much guarantee that any password you ever typed into that machine is now compromised
[01:07] <blckpythn> Forgive me, I'm new
[01:07] <tgm4883> blckpythn, I'd cat that file and look for errors
[01:08] <tgm4883> blckpythn, you shouldn't
[01:08] <ijwyn> gordonjcp: well, it does seem like a rather popular app though, if it really was THAT bad, wouldn't it be known by now? just a bit surprised by all this...
[01:08] <tgm4883> blckpythn, do you own everything in your ~/ dir?
[01:08] <blckpythn> Pretty fresh install, so yeah
[01:08] <tgm4883> blckpythn, well if you get permission denied, then no, you don't
[01:09] <blckpythn> I installed 2 hours ago...how could I not?
[01:09] <tgm4883> blckpythn, IDK, do 'ls -la ~/'
[01:09] <blckpythn> -rw on .xsession-errors
[01:10] <tgm4883> ijwyn, again, minimal attack footprint. Tunnel all that over an SSH tunnel then have it only listen on localhost
[01:10] <tgm4883> (or just don't use a gui ;) )
[01:10] <tgm4883> blckpythn, what is the full permissions?
[01:10] <ijwyn> gui's are getting lots of love here, lol
[01:11] <ijwyn> guess I shouldn't be surprised though, heh
[01:11] <tgm4883> ijwyn, well for servers, they won't get a lot of love anywhere
[01:11] <blckpythn> uh sorry, cat ~/.xsession-errors works
[01:11] <blckpythn> again, very new
[01:11] <tgm4883> blckpythn, any error messages look exciting?
[01:12] <blckpythn> JS ERROR: !!! looks exciting
[01:12] <blckpythn> lots of excietment really
[01:12] <ijwyn> I don't use the machine *just* as a server, though, possibly that is my problem, but using two machines would be a bit expensive...
[01:12] <tgm4883> blckpythn, Did you say the guest account works?
[01:12] <blckpythn> Yeah oddly enough
[01:13] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ok, so rather than use tty1, you should login as a guest, then open a terminal and change to your user to grab this info
[01:13] <tgm4883> blckpythn, you installed this two hours ago?
[01:13] <blckpythn> yeah...
[01:13] <tgm4883> blckpythn, I'd probably just create a new user, copy over any files I wanted to keep and delete the old user
[01:14] <krabador> iat'v'n a ddurm' !!!!!!
[01:14] <blckpythn> dpkg-reconfigure?
[01:14] <tgm4883> blckpythn, no, useradd
[01:15] <blckpythn> I know, I'm just saying, would that not fix it?
[01:16] <tgm4883> blckpythn, no. if it works for the guest account it's not a system wide issue
[01:16] <hf5e> A question if I install ubuntu on the same HD as windows, if after I want to delete ubuntu from the hardrive, will the Ubuntu partition automaticaly marge back with the window partition?
[01:16] <tgm4883> blckpythn, it's something in your home directory
[01:16] <wheatthin> hf5e, nope
[01:16] <tgm4883> blckpythn, is there anything in your home directory worth saving?
[01:16] <huttan> hf5e: nope, u'd have to open disk management in windows and fill out the windows partition
[01:17] <hf5e> is it easy to do that?
[01:17] <tgm4883> hf5e, assuming you aren't using wubi, what ^^ said
[01:17] <blckpythn> No, nothing worth saving
[01:17] <huttan> hf5e: its very easy :)
[01:17] <blckpythn> I'd like to keep the username though >_<
[01:18] <hf5e> ok
[01:18] <tgm4883> blckpythn, so you could probably just do 'rm -rf ~/*'
[01:18] <hf5e> and second question is can the ubuntu 13 theme be changed?
[01:18] <blckpythn> ahahaha
[01:18] <huttan> hf5e: if ur talking about the looks of ur GUI .. yeah, any way u want
[01:18] <tgm4883> blckpythn, that will delete everything in your home directory, then just copy over the default stuff from /etc/skel/
[01:18] <blckpythn> ok, worth a shot
[01:18] <hf5e> I would like it to look like the odler ubuntus
[01:18] <hf5e> is it possible?
[01:19] <hf5e> like I mean not with this side bar thing
[01:19] <huttan> hf5e: like without Unity ?
[01:19] <tgm4883> !nounity
[01:19] <blckpythn> Everything is still there...
[01:19] <blckpythn> even .xsession-errors.old
[01:19] <huttan> hf5e: that should be sufficient help for you mate
[01:19] <tgm4883> you ran that full command while logged in as yourself (not guest)?
[01:20] <hf5e> thanks
[01:20] <blckpythn> Yeah, sudo su too
[01:20] <tgm4883> blckpythn, you added sudo su? or you ran that command, then another command with sudo su added?
[01:20] <tgm4883> blckpythn, because if you just added sudo su, then yea, that probably wouldn't work
[01:20] <blckpythn> sudo su.... then rm -rf ~/*
[01:21] <tgm4883> blckpythn, so you basically told it to delete everything in /root/
[01:21] <blckpythn> that would explain why nothing happened...
[01:21] <tgm4883> blckpythn, don't do that
[01:21] <hf5e> I dont see "ubuntu-gnome desktop" but I see "gnome desktop utilities" is that the one?
[01:21] <tgm4883> blckpythn, just login as yourself, and run the command without sudo
[01:21] <blckpythn> but my prompt is root@comp:/home/myuser#
[01:22] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ~/ is a shortcut to $HOME
[01:22] <tgm4883> blckpythn, and for root, $HOME is /root
[01:22] <tgm4883> blckpythn, so despite what directory you are in, you told it to delete everything in /root/
[01:23] <blckpythn> ...there are 4 hidden folders in /root/
[01:23] <blckpythn> and thats it
[01:23] <huttan> blckpythn: What are you trying to achieve??
[01:23] <blckpythn> haha, trying to get a desktop environment back
[01:23] <tgm4883> huttan, we're trying to delete everything in his home folder
[01:24] <huttan> hehe ok
[01:24] <blckpythn> I can't get Unity or Cinnamon to come up
[01:24] <blckpythn> except on a guest account... so yeah
[01:24] <Guuest45818> how can I protect the mail server against brute force?
[01:24] <blckpythn> is there supposed to be more in /root/? should I just reformat?
[01:25] <tgm4883> blckpythn, not usually
[01:25] <huttan> blckpythn: nope, not if its fresh install
[01:25] <blckpythn> ok whew
[01:25] <huttan> blckpythn: whats the name of the user u wanna delete?
[01:25] <Guuest45818> how can I protect the mail server against brute force?
[01:25] <Ari-Yang> blckpythn, to switch between DEs/WMs you have to log out and click the icon in the login box
[01:25] <tgm4883> huttan, well we aren't deleting a user
[01:25] <Ari-Yang> it's like at the top right of it
[01:25] <tgm4883> huttan, just the stuff in it's directory
[01:26] <huttan> why not just remake it if its fresh?
[01:26] <blckpythn> ok so rm -rf /home/myuser/* didn't work either
[01:26] <tgm4883> blckpythn, weird
[01:26] <blckpythn> everything is still there
[01:26] <blckpythn> no error or anything
[01:27] <blckpythn> Ari-Yang, I know that, neither loads
[01:27] <tgm4883> blckpythn, I'd say try 'sudo rm -rf /home/myuser/*'
[01:27] <zebrafusion> hi what is the command line tool to see audio interfaces
[01:27] <Guuest45818> who can help me?
[01:27] <tgm4883> zebrafusion, aplay -l ?
[01:27] <zebrafusion> i shutdown restart and now my headphone sound is gone
[01:27] <blckpythn> again, no dice
[01:28] <zebrafusion> tgm4883: i was more thinking like the gnome command
[01:28] <zebrafusion> to select
[01:28] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ok, last resort. 'sudo rm -rf /home/myuser' if that doesn't delete it then IDK what will
[01:28] <blckpythn> is there a flag for rm that removes hidden as well?
[01:29] <huttan> blckpythn: it should do that the way u are doing it
[01:29] <blckpythn> non-hidden folders are gone
[01:29] <blckpythn> lots of hidden left
[01:29] <huttan> blckpythn: Try to remove the user alltogether and remake it?
[01:29] <Guuest45818> Hi
[01:30] <blckpythn> Best way to do that?
[01:30] <tgm4883> just deleting the folder should work
[01:30] <tgm4883> blckpythn, 'sudo rm -rf /home/myuser'
[01:30] <blckpythn> ok, deleted the whole user folder
[01:30] <huttan> blckpythn: userdel username && rm -rf /home/username
[01:30] <blckpythn> reboot?
[01:30] <huttan> blckpythn: then adduser username
[01:31] <tgm4883> blckpythn, no, just recreate the user folder
[01:31] <blckpythn> can't delete self while logged in as self :)
[01:31] <tgm4883> blckpythn, 'sudo mkdir /home/myuser'
[01:31] <blckpythn> got it
[01:31] <huttan> sorry, thought u were still root... u have good help, so im gonna stay out
[01:31] <tgm4883> blckpythn, then 'sudo chown myuser:myuser /home/myuser'
[01:31] <blckpythn> ok
[01:32] <tgm4883> blckpythn, then lets copy over the default stuff 'sudo cp -R /etc/skel/* ~/'
[01:33] <tgm4883> blckpythn, that should give you 4 files in ~/
[01:33] <tgm4883> all hidden files
[01:33] <blckpythn> ...just examples.desktop
[01:33] <boris66> How do I reset my unity desktop? I added an updated ppa and tried to remove the packages from it and it deleted a huge bunch of other stuff.
[01:33] <tgm4883> blckpythn, you don't have    .bash_logout  .bashrc  .profile  .xscreensaver
[01:34] <boris66> I think I've got all the packages back now but lightdm gives me an empty screen after a login. I've logged into the machine from another machine via ssh and am trying to resolve the last bit..
[01:34] <wheatthin> boris66, you have to remove the ppa, update with software updater and it should all go back to normal
[01:34] <boris66> i've run apt-get install unity-desktop to grab everything back
[01:34] <blckpythn> not from cp -R /etc/skel/* /home/myuser/
[01:34] <james41382> I have a question about Ubuntu 12.04: the "power" button in the upper right corner of the unity GUI sometimes does things that are not what I have selected. For example: I'll click Restart, but it will log out.
[01:35] <tgm4883> blckpythn, can you look in /etc/skel and see if there are hidden files in there?
[01:35] <james41382> Has anyone experienced this? Does anyone know of a fix?
[01:35] <blckpythn> yeah, its got bash_logout .bashrc examples.desktop and .profile
[01:36] <tgm4883> blckpythn, can you copy those to your home dir then fix ownership on them?
[01:37] <boris66> I only have a bare display with no global menubar or launcher. how do I either get them present or run software updater form the command line?
[01:38] <ef5c_ef5c> tgm4883, blkpythn, the shell doesn't include hidden files when it expands the *.  That's why the earlier rm and the cp aren't hitting the hidden files.  Copy them individually if there are only a few
[01:38] <tgm4883> ef5c_ef5c, ah that makes sense. Thanks for the info
[01:38] <ef5c_ef5c> tgm4883,  yw
[01:38] <blckpythn> ok, I think I've got them copied, but I don't know how to fix the permissions
[01:38] <tgm4883> blckpythn, then 'sudo chown -R myuser:myuser /home/myuser'
[01:39] <boris66> doesnt software updater just do the same as a combination of apt-get update/dist-upgrade and apt-get -f install ?
[01:39] <boris66> (which I've already done)
[01:40] <tgm4883> boris66, does the guest account work?
[01:42] <blckpythn> Alright, /home/myuser has .bash_logout, .bashrc, examples.desktop, and .profile with permissions
[01:42] <boris66> no. same as my usual account. All I have is an xterm in my non-priv account, sudoed to root
[01:42] <boris66> I do see this in the lightdm startup files...
[01:43] <boris66> The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[01:43] <tgm4883> blckpythn, try logging in now
[01:43] <blckpythn> tgm4883, reboot? or is there a way to get back out of this prompt?
[01:43] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ctrl+alt+f7
[01:44] <blckpythn> :(
[01:44] <blckpythn> still just a wallpaper and cursor
[01:44] <tgm4883> :(
[01:45] <tgm4883> that doesn't make sense
[01:45] <blckpythn> root login, delete and recreate user?
[01:46] <tgm4883> blckpythn, you could trying making a new user, but IDK why it would be any different
[01:46] <tgm4883> you could login as guest, and see what exists in the guest users home dir
[01:46] <blckpythn> ok
[01:47] <blckpythn> All the normal stuff
[01:48] <tgm4883> blckpythn, sec
[01:49] <boris66> Is it possible those service files don't exist for org.gnome.SessionManager?
[01:51] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ok, while signed in as the guest account, open a terminal
[01:51] <blckpythn> open
[01:51] <tgm4883> blckpythn, do 'ls /tmp' do you see a directory guest-home.SOMETHING
[01:52] <blckpythn> guest-3M65d same as the terminal title
[01:52] <very> Hi
[01:52] <very> I am a newbie with Ubuntu and such like
[01:52] <very> and am very puzzled. can someone help me with some problems?
[01:52] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ok, that is the guest users home directory
[01:52] <very> Anyone know what a Kernel Panic is?
[01:52] <wheatthin> very just ask and someone will try to help
[01:52] <tgm4883> you could try copying everything in that directory to your home directory
[01:53] <wheatthin> kernel panics are caused by a number of things, you have to be more specific
[01:53] <very> VFS: Cannot open root device "(null)" or unknown-block
[01:53] <blckpythn> can't do copies from the guest command prompt...
[01:54] <very> Please append a correct @root=@ boot option; here are the available partitions
[01:54] <tgm4883> blckpythn, do 'sudo su myuser'
[01:54] <wheatthin> very, you might need to see your fstab
[01:54] <very> I am trying to install ubuntu of a usb key
[01:54] <tgm4883> hmm, that might not work
[01:54] <very> whats an fstab :)
[01:54] <blckpythn> tgm4883, "sudo: unable to change to sudoers gid: Operation not permitted"
[01:54] <wheatthin> fstab is where you store your hardware parameter for devices like cdroms and hard drives with partitions
[01:54] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ok, do 'ctrl+alt+f1' and login and see if that dir still exists
[01:55] <wheatthin> it's located /etc/fstab
[01:55] <very> thanks wheatthin, told you I was a newbie
[01:55] <very> Its on the USB drive?
[01:55] <blckpythn> tgm4883: Yup :)
[01:55] <wheatthin> very, is that where you installed the os?
[01:55] <very> if I use a copy of windows on a working machine to to navigate the drive
[01:56] <very> I just made a pen drive with linux live usb
[01:56] <wheatthin> very, you might not be able to edit the files
[01:56] <dasds> can someone explain, I installed ubuntu using the "install alongside them" feature... I have no idea where ubuntu got installed to
[01:56] <wheatthin> very, I'd suggest using a livedvd
[01:56] <very> and im trying to install it on an oooooooold computer
[01:56] <tgm4883> blckpythn, ok, now copy over the stuff
[01:56] <dasds> did it actualy marge with windows in the same partition?
[01:56] <blckpythn> alright, I keep copying  the directories to a file in the destination directory....
[01:56] <very> the dvd drive is bust
[01:56] <very> :/
[01:57] <very> so to access this fstab...
[01:57] <wheatthin> very, hmm you can try to edit the file, but I doubt it.. plus you need to know the UUID of the usb drive
[01:58] <very> its on the laptop firmware... or in the files live linux usb created
[01:58] <Seven_Six_Two> is there a secret method to updating from 12.04 to 13.04, without the obligatory universal implosion?
[01:58] <wheatthin> to put the setting in /etc/fstab
[01:58] <wheatthin> very, it's in the files on the usb drive
[01:58] <very> ok :)
[01:58] <very> ill have a look
[01:58] <Seven_Six_Two> oops. I forgot to add... while skipping 12.10
[01:59] <blackshirt> !info statistic
[01:59] <blackshirt> !info R
[02:00] <blackshirt> what is name of package of gnu r for statistic in ubuntu ?
[02:00] <blckpythn> No luck tgm4883, copied everything over and same issue. Thanks for your help, I learned quite a bit. I think it's time to reinstall though
[02:00] <A1Recon> Does anyone know if there's any "Rhythmbox Remote" thing for Android?
[02:00] <wheatthin> A1Recon, not right offhand but you can look in the android store for it
[02:01] <blackshirt> !find statistic
[02:01] <very> wheatthin. i have .disk, boot, casper, dists, install pics pool preseed syslinux folders
[02:01] <very> where is this fstab you speak of :)
[02:01] <blackshirt> !find gnu-r
[02:02] <blckpythn> Unless there's a way to login as root from the ctrl+alt+F1 shell
[02:02] <somsip> !info r-base
[02:03] <A1Recon> wheatthin: I looked in the Play store....an app was there with a 2.5 rating.. didn't like it. Is there anyone working on this project?
[02:03] <blackshirt> thank somsip
[02:03] <somsip> blackshirt: np :)
[02:03] <tgm4883> blckpythn, I agree
[02:04] <blckpythn> tgm4883: is there a way to login as root from the shell? to delete and recreate user?
[02:05] <wheatthin> A1Recon, you'd have to check on that with android peeps
[02:05] <Daughain> Morning, all.
[02:05] <A1Recon> wheatthin: k
[02:06] <wheatthin> very it should be in the root of the drive in    etc/
[02:06] <blckpythn> Good evening Daughain
[02:06] <tgm4883> blckpythn, you could login to recovery mode via grub
[02:06] <Daughain> How goes the day?
[02:06] <blckpythn> I got a read-only deal last time I was in there...
[02:07] <blckpythn> I'll look again
[02:07] <blckpythn> So far not great Daughain
[02:07] <Daughain> blckpythn, I hope it gets better.
[02:07] <blckpythn> :) it will, I crapped out a fresh install in no time flat
[02:08] <very> wheatthin cant seem to find that using windows to browse the disk
[02:08] <blckpythn> trying to learn how to fix it
[02:08] <very> any chance it might be called something else?
[02:08] <wheatthin> very, not the slight chance
[02:08] <A1Recon> I this command correct " apt-cache search name_of_program" ... I want to find if a certain program/plugin exists...
[02:08] <A1Recon> *Is
[02:08] <wheatthin> A1Recon, affirmative
[02:08] <Daughain> It happens.
[02:09] <Daughain> I wiped my fstab last night. =)
[02:09] <wheatthin> eww
[02:09] <wheatthin> :P
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> Daughain: And I assume that now your machine won't mount anything.
[02:09] <Daughain> SonikkuAmerica, I had a backup, so the fix was simple.
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> :)
[02:10] <Daughain> Just that immediate "Oh$***!" monment. =)
[02:10] <pfifo> Stupid dist-upgrade from earlier today broke my X, why does this always happen to me?
[02:11] <blckpythn> Fresh-Fresh install time
[02:11] <james41382> When I click disconnect from the wireless menu of the panel in Unity it doesn't disconnect.
[02:11] <SonikkuAmerica> blckpythn: What's a fresh-FROZEN install. :)
[02:12] <pfifo> yep, formatted and debootstrapped in about 20 minutes (saved my archives folder on thumbdrive)
[02:12] <blckpythn> It's a preconfigured image
[02:12] <Daughain> SonikkuAmerica, Thats what I had with some bad ram chips...
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> lol
[02:12] <Daughain> :)
[02:12] <blckpythn> :)
[02:12] <blckpythn> tgm4883: thanks again, goodnight all
[02:13] <james41382> When I manually turn off the wireless connection it is then automatically reenabled.
[02:13] <A1Recon> "apt-cache search rhythmbox-plugin-repeat-one-song" gives no result?? Anyone knows why?
[02:13] <wheatthin> A1Recon, the plugin is probably packaged with other plugins as a general package
[02:13] <pfifo> !info rhythmbox-plugin-repeat-one-song
[02:14] <A1Recon> ubottu: pfifo: Thanks!!
[02:14] <pfifo> Your welcome, but keep in mind im only a bot
[02:14] <wheatthin> lol
[02:15] <SonikkuAmerica> A1Recon: You can always check against ubottu :)
[02:15] <very> wheatthin.. maybe you can help me come up with another solution to my problem, as this linux malarkey is a bit beyond me!
[02:15] <partounian> Hey guys what torrenting client do you recommend?
[02:15] <A1Recon> wheatthin: i know ubottu, just thought it would have something funny to say.... But instead it gave me this"Sorry, I don't know anything about pfifo: Thanks!!" Ha Ha
[02:16] <very> basically I simply want to install a different operating system on a computer that has no cd/dvd drive
[02:16] <pfifo> She is lying! we kno eachother very well
[02:16] <wheatthin> very, as your stuff is broken, I'd suggest just reinstalling it
[02:16] <OerHeks> A1Recon, that plugin is in https://launchpad.net/~fossfreedom/+archive/rhythmbox-plugins
[02:16] <Miningdude> partounian: I personally use uTorrent to download the different Ubuntu versions and Distros.
[02:16] <very> in an attempt to make the currently un-functioning second VGA output work on a flat screen TV
[02:17] <very> Re-install what do you think?
[02:17] <very> it currently has a version of windows 7 installed on it
[02:17] <partounian> Wine or Native utorrent?
[02:17] <xangua> partounian: whatever you like the most ;)
[02:17] <very> but i installed that a while ago using someone elses external dvd drive
[02:17] <pfifo> partounian, transmission should be installed by default
[02:17] <OerHeks> partounian, standard torrent is good enough, else i would choose Deluge
[02:18] <wheatthin> very, you can use wubi I believe still
[02:18] <Miningdude> partounian: I personally use it on my Windows 7 machine, but would use Transmission or Deluge on Ubuntu
[02:18] <wheatthin> launch it within windows
[02:19] <partounian> I'm at a private site which does not allow aria2/1.9.0 BitLet.org/0.1 Cloud based servers, Any Client, Any version. NSPlayer/<IP_ADDRESS>0 SymTorrent wmTorrent 2.1.6 (wmTorrent <IP_ADDRESS>) WMTR KTorrent  (All Versions) Transmission (All versions above 2.03 including web-gui versions) Tixati  (All Versions).
[02:19] <very> wheatthin.  whats wubi
[02:19] <wheatthin> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[02:19] <very> thanks for bearing with my stoopid questions
[02:19] <partounian> I guess I'll just wine it.
[02:19] <wheatthin> very, actually no question is stupid, as long as it's a focused one
[02:20] <pfifo> partounian, how can they not allow it? Its your computer.
[02:20] <partounian> pfifo: It reports "bad data".
[02:20] <Germanaz0> hello everybody, somebody could run a media server for xbox 360 with ushare, currently ? I cannot make the secure key work
[02:20] <pfifo> partounian, if its firewalled then change the default port and require encryption
[02:21] <very> wheatthin lol.  haha thanks.  i kinda wanted to get rid of windows though, im presuming thats not possible by running an install from within windows
[02:21] <wheatthin> I think you have the opportunity to install onto the usb drive
[02:21] <very> wheatthin I was kinda hoping with a strong easterly wind, and a fresh install of something other than windows 7 my 2nd vga output might magically come to life
[02:21] <Miningdude> Very: Oh, just run a LiveCD or LiveUSB, and chose Install. Overwrite the Windows that is installed. Make sure EVERYTHING you want is backed up, though.
[02:22] <very> miningdude I have made a usb drive using linux live dvd
[02:22] <wheatthin> very http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-with-windows
[02:22] <wheatthin> just check it out and see
[02:22] <Miningdude> Very: Then boot from that. You have to tell the computer to first Boot from US, and reboot.
[02:23] <very> miningdude yeh done that
[02:23] <very> says i have a kernel panic
[02:23] <very> i have tried the usb on another computer
[02:23] <very> boots fine
[02:23] <A1Recon> Does anyone know how to repeat one song in Rhythmbox (Raring Ringtail)?
[02:23] <Miningdude> Must be your computer then, Very?
[02:23] <very> Yeh, but it is running a version of windows 7 at the moment
[02:24] <very> and if i take the usb out. it will boot that fine
[02:24] <Daughain> very, how old is tyhe computer?
[02:24] <very> off the hard drive that is in it
[02:24] <Miningdude> You have a Disc drive?
[02:24] <very> old lol
[02:24] <very> not a disc drive
[02:24] <very> a bashed up cd/dvd drive
[02:24] <Daughain> very,  scan your ram for defects.
[02:24] <Miningdude> Then that should work... If it still has useability
[02:24] <SonikkuAmerica> very: The D in CD and DVD == "disc"
[02:25] <very> its an intel cm 520 processer
[02:25] <very> with 1 gig of ram
[02:25] <very> yeh the cd/dvd drive doesnt work
[02:25] <A1Recon> Does anyone know how to repeat one song in Rhythmbox (Raring Ringtail)?
[02:25] <wheatthin> very use wubi, see if it'll install
[02:26] <Miningdude> Very: Oh. Try getting a version like 10.10 and see if it works? After trying the Wubi suggestion like WheatThin is suggesting
[02:26] <very> wheatthin it probably will.  my question is, (hopefully focused lol) do you think it will actually solve my hardware issue... im wondering where it will get gfx drivers from for example... is it installed within windows... or does it boot from an independent set of files
[02:27] <very> if there is just one partition on the drive
[02:27] <wheatthin> very, just follow the onscreen wizard, it'll more or less tell you
[02:28] <grahamsavage_> hi.. any idea why i would get an error " near line 7 package 'linuxqq:i386':
[02:28] <A1Recon> So I found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/147942/how-do-i-install-third-party-rhythmbox-plugins I wonder why the plugins (like rhythmremote and repeat-one-song)are not available for 13.04. Does anyone know why??
[02:28] <grahamsavage_>  error in Version string 'v1.0.2-beta1': version number does not start with digit"  when running "sudo dpkg -i "/tmp/linuxqq_v1.0.2-beta1_i386.deb"
[02:28] <Miningdude> Very: Trust WheatThin on this.
[02:28] <grahamsavage_> do i have to rename the file?
[02:29] <very> ok guys, ill try that
[02:29] <very> thanks
[02:29] <very> be back :)
[02:29] <Miningdude> Very: Good luck!
[02:30] <wheatthin> very, you can also use rawwrite for windows 7, and copy the iso to the usb drive, boot from the usb drive and install fully over windows that way
[02:31] <wheatthin> not rawwrite, but dd
[02:31] <A1Recon> So I found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/147942/how-do-i-install-third-party-rhythmbox-plugins I wonder why the plugins (like rhythmremote and repeat-one-song)are not available for 13.04. Does anyone know why??
[02:31] <Miningdude> WheatThin: I know that http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ works pretty well. I use this like crazy when I do Live USBs.
[02:33] <Miningdude> !patience
[02:33] <Miningdude> A1Recon: WE probably don't know why at this moment. Also, please do not spam questions over and over again. !Patience
[02:33] <Afflicto> Hey all. I'm trying to install ubuntu from a dvd I burned but it's freezing on the flat, purple loading screen where it says "ubuntu". It's on a fairly new laptop with win 7 (it came originally with win 8)
[02:33] <Afflicto> I wish I had a USB stick
[02:34] <A1Recon> My apologies for being impatient.
[02:34] <Daughain> Afflicto, EUFI bootloader?
[02:34] <Germanaz0> hello someone can use the ubuntu distro as windows media center for xbox 360
[02:34] <Afflicto> Daughain: I don't know
[02:34] <Germanaz0> now it is asking me for a setup key
[02:34] <Jucelio> http://go.codeschool.com/ZQWf4Q
[02:34] <pfifo> Afflicto, when you boot, remove 'quite splash' from the boot parameters
[02:35] <Afflicto> pfifo: ok?
[02:35] <Daughain> Afflicto, Might want to find out. That may be the issue.
[02:35] <pfifo> Afflicto, that will let you see any possible error messages that pop up
[02:36] <very> wheatthin: wubi says its downloading, it will take approximately 51 mins... using this wubi contraption, am I going to be allowed to install ubuntu over windows?  This prospect confuses me, because its running the installer from within the windows os
[02:36] <very> just curios!
[02:36] <x86_g> https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1005902_395700510548732_1349937798_n.jpg
[02:37] <pfifo> !ot | x86_g
[02:37] <x86_g> ...
[02:37] <wheatthin> very, you can also try using dd for windows to copy the iso image to usb
[02:37] <very> wheatthin: It DID remove an earlier version of a half installed mint too... think that might have been the reason for kernel panic earlier?
[02:37] <x86_g> Its related... or not, its a good wallpaper for ubuntu!
[02:37] <x86_g> hehe
[02:37] <very> I used linux live usb maker
[02:37] <wheatthin> and use the usb to install completely over windows stuff
[02:37] <wheatthin> ahh
[02:38] <x86_g> Use Universal Usb Installer
[02:38] <Afflicto> pfifo: Ok, quite boot disabled. I found out I can change boot mode to "UEFI". It's already on "Legacy BIOS" tho.
[02:38] <very> the one I got the furtherst with was linux live usb
[02:38] <very> linux pen drive gave me a UI something or other error
[02:39] <wheatthin> very, dd rarely fails unless you have a bad iso image
[02:39] <pfifo> !uefi | Afflicto, this will give you some more info about EFI and if your using it
[02:39] <tannji> Germanaz0,   :http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/03/xbmc-12-1-releasedhow-to-install-it-in-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail/
[02:39] <Germanaz0> lemme check tannji
[02:39] <very> wheatthin have you heard that linux live usb can be temporamental then?
[02:40] <SonikkuAmerica> Germanaz0: In short: Add ppa:team-xbmc to your sources, then update and install
[02:40] <wheatthin> very, any gui program can be temperamental
[02:41] <Germanaz0> tannji SonikkuAmerica but how tu start the media server to share content on xbox
[02:41] <x86_g> I Can use Window Maker Desk Env in ubuntu:? has bugs? or something?
[02:42] <wheatthin> Germanaz0, I'd check into xbmc :)
[02:42] <Germanaz0> bcs I dont have installed it
[02:42] <Germanaz0> xbox show me a key to insert into the media server
[02:42] <Germanaz0> I installed ushare but there is no way to insert that key with that depprecated software
[02:42] <very> wheatthin: ok... what's dd?  command prompt program I have to download?  and run within windows? or this wubi installed version of ubuntu?  or is it a command prompt program within ubuntu?
[02:43] <wheatthin> very, dd allows you to copy stuff byte for byte, and yes you have to download it
[02:43] <wheatthin> in windows 7
[02:43] <wheatthin> it comes with ubuntu automatically tho
[02:43] <Afflicto> omg it works. It was just insanely slow. I see the install screen now ;D
[02:43] <zipy> can i paste sth like this with "\" in terminal or do i have to replace all the "\" to make it work? example:
[02:43] <zipy> sudo apt-get install autotools-dev comerr-dev dpkg-dev libalsaplayer-dev \
[02:43] <zipy>     libapt-pkg-dev:armhf libasound2-dev:armhf libass-dev:armhf libatk1.0-dev \
[02:44] <wheatthin> http://uranus.chrysocome.net/linux/rawwrite/dd.htm
[02:44] <Guest1793> hello, could anyone tell me how to access the ATI Catalyst Control Center after installing AMD drivers? I can't find it anywhere?
[02:44] <very> wheatthin: cool. so it will already be in this version of ubuntu IF it installs!
[02:44] <very> ill know in 38 mins
[02:44] <very> thanks for your help!  I'll keep at it.
[02:44] <Afflicto> Hm. my DVD drive is making strange noises for some reason.
[02:45] <pfifo> zipy, you can paste with the \... its a escape character that makes the newline get ignored
[02:45] <zipy> k thx
[02:45] <zipy> im glad to hear that :D
[02:46] <pfifo> zipy, but make sure you dont <backslash><space><newline>  it has to be <backslash><newline>
[02:46] <rjacks> Hi everyone, I'm having an issue installing Ubuntu on my desktop. It's a system I built myself, Core i5 3570K CPU, 8GB DDR3 RAM. Right now the only drive connected is a 128GB SSD, with Windows 8 installed. I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8 (split the drive ~ 60GB/60GB) however the Ubuntu installer will not recognize my SSD for partitioning. I can modify the partitions just fine in GParted, but the Ubuntu installer detec
[02:46] <Scrivener> I just used dd to burn an image to SD for a Rasp Pi :3
[02:46] <zipy> Scrivener, me too :D
[02:47] <zipy> but i used noobs
[02:47] <Scrivener> zipy ?
[02:47] <zipy> im trying to get xbmc on raspbian right now :D
[02:48] <Scrivener> Cool :)
[02:48] <Tobarja> Any suggestions for alternative terminal apps? Gnome Terminal seems a little bare
[02:48] <Scrivener> I got pwnpi.
[02:48] <Scrivener> zipy, making a wardriving setup :3
[02:48] <Scrivener> For kicks.
[02:48] <Scrivener> I will do something else with it later.
[02:48] <FloodBot1> Scrivener: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:48] <pfifo> Tobarja, goto #ubuntu-bots and ask bestbot
[02:48] <wheatthin> if you guys like to chat, chat, also log into #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[02:49] <wheatthin> here you can get support, there you can chat.. just follow the rules :)
[02:49] <Scrivener> Thanks wheatthin -- I didn't realize I was talking in this channel until FloodBot sent that message. Thought this was somewhere else.
[02:49] <operatormplik> f
[02:51] <zipy> rjacks, i had that same problem too. i had to switch the sata ports
[02:51] <zipy> make sure ur ssd is on the first sata port
[02:51] <Miningdude> What is the quickest way you know of to get the TEXT version of the LiveCD starting? (The options being along the lines of: Install Ubuntu / Try w/o Installing, etc)
[02:51] <nurow2> hello, could anyone tell me how to access the ATI Catalyst Control Center after installing AMD drivers? I can't find it anywhere?
[02:52] <rjacks> zipy, I had that thought too. Right now BIOS reports my SSD as being on SATA 1, with the only other SATA device being my DVD drive on SATA 6
[02:52] <Miningdude> !Patience | Nurow2
[02:55] <KxTwo> hi guys, I have always installed any applications I wanted through the software center and am not entirely sure how to do it otherwise.  I wanted to use PPSSPP psp emulator and was told it runs well on ubuntu but am not sure the best and easiest way to get it and install it?
[02:55] <wheatthin> nurow2 where did you install it from?
[02:55] <zipy> rjacks, hmm maybe bios has wrong portnummbers
[02:55] <nurow2> I installed from the download on AMDs website. The repository version seemed to break my video
[02:56] <zipy> i looked it up, its called sata_a1 on my mainboard
[02:56] <wheatthin> nurow2, ehh it shouldn't have, but we don't support the stuff from that site
[02:56] <zipy> and i turned off uefi
[02:56] <nurow2> but now after installing, I don't have a way to enable one of my monitors.
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, This a graphic driver?
[02:56] <wheatthin> yeah
[02:56] <nurow2> should the Catalyst Control Center name be exactly the same? I just need to know know how to open the video settings
[02:56] <nurow2> shouldn't*
[02:56] <rjacks> zipy thanks, I'll check it out
[02:57] <nurow2> I don't need help with my drivers, I just need to get to the driver settings
[02:57] <wheatthin> nurow2, indeed.. what desktop environment are you using?
[02:57] <nurow2> unity
[02:57] <tannji> nurow,  if the drivers installed properly, dash will show the settings app "Catalyst"
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> nurow2, Using manufacturers drivers are not a suggested source the ubuntu repos are.
[02:58] <nurow2> Wilee, that isn't very helpful. I know that, but those break my computer.
[02:58] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, only cause they can't modify the driver, otherwise they wouldn't have you install them from software-update thingy
[02:58] <Germanaz0> I still cant get connected with upnp and xbox with XBMC
[02:59] <nurow2> I type catalyst and nothing comes up.. even though the Catalyst package appears in the Ubuntu software center
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> wheatthin, I know why. nurow2 I will be sure to not help you.
[03:00] <zipy> i wish #raspbian was active like this channel.. i asked a question 2h ago and still noone answered -.- noone even chatting since then ahaha
[03:00] <Germanaz0> tannji you here ?
[03:00] <karlmh>     ServerAliveInterval 14400
[03:00] <wheatthin> nurow2, either way they shouldn't break your graphics, cause they are virtually from the same place
[03:00] <karlmh> i set that in my ssh_config but it still times out and disconnects me after like 20 minutes, seriously
[03:01] <karlmh> what could be causing that?
[03:01] <wheatthin> nurow2, what do you mean by break anyways?
[03:01] <zipy> wheatthin, why do u need beeing connected more then 20m idling?
[03:01] <nurow2> my computer freezes during the boot process
[03:01] <nurow2> and is completely unusable.
[03:02] <zipy> wheatthin, if u want to keep some sessions alive without beeing connected u can use tmux
[03:02] <nurow2> I spent the last two days trying to trouble shoot it, and I was told to try this.
[03:02] <wheatthin> zipy what are you talking about?
[03:03] <zipy> oh sry it was karlmh
[03:03] <TimR> can anybody tell me why port 21 is not listening on my 12.04.2 lts server when I got vsftpd installed
[03:03] <wheatthin> TimR, is it started?
[03:04] <TimR> well I did the whole start thing and rechecked it and still not listening to port 21
[03:04] <tannji> nurow,   here is the procedure I used to install the proprietary drivers.   I tried every thing I could find for months, only this worked for me.   http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/fix-catalyst-driver-in-ubuntu-13-04/
[03:04] <iceroot> TimR: because you are using xinetd or the ftp-daemon is not running
[03:05] <iceroot> TimR: and you dont want ftp at all, you want sftp or something else which is secure
[03:05] <TimR> oh well I already got sftp setup and working
[03:05] <TimR> its just that port 21 is not working
[03:05] <wheatthin> you mean vsftpd?
[03:06] <TimR> yes
[03:06] <wheatthin> firewall open?
[03:06] <TimR> I disabled the firewall
[03:06] <iceroot> TimR: because you are using xinetd or the ftp-daemon is not running
[03:06] <iceroot> TimR: its that simple
[03:07] <TimR> ok iceroot what are you talking about
[03:07] <iceroot> TimR: i am talking about that the port is closed until something is running on that port
[03:07] <iceroot> TimR: and running means that the ftp-daemon is started
[03:07] <TimR> ok so iceroot how do I get it to work
[03:08] <iceroot> TimR: sudo service name-of-the-ftp-program start
[03:08] <wheatthin> TimR, sudo service vsftpd start
[03:09] <TimR> I have done that comman and still not listening or opened
[03:09] <zipy> can i hide my ip adress in freenode?
[03:09] <zipy> like in qnet
[03:09] <somsip> !cloak | zipy
[03:09] <iceroot> zipy: #freenode
[03:10] <zipy> im already registerd
[03:10] <zipy> cool there are ubuntu cloaks
[03:10] <zipy> :D
[03:11] <Corey> zipy: If you're a Ubuntu member, sure. :-)
[03:15] <Golfgeo> hi all
[03:18] <arooni-mobile> why isnt tar excluding the log files.  i have; tar --exclude="project_dir/log/*.*" -zcvf stuff_from_server.tar.gz proj_project_dir
[03:18] <arooni-mobile> i have tried ignoring *.log but with no effect
[03:19] <luke1> unity is a shell for gnome, right?
[03:19] <sudo> Guys.. Not exactly an Ubuntu question but surely many of you know this.  I want a DVI KVM for a dual monitor setup I am using.  My computers use Dual link DVI-D, but a KVM I am looking at only has that on the outpout.  The KVM cables are single link DVI-D.  Will I be able to get dual monitors out of single link and will the resolution be OK?
[03:19] <luke1> i'm just a little confused.
[03:19] <wheatthin> luke1, no, unity is unity :)
[03:19] <wheatthin> gnome shell is gnome 3
[03:19] <luke1> wheatthin: thank you.
[03:20] <wheatthin> yup
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> luke1, unity is a plugin in compiz which is all running on top of gnome 3.
[03:21] <parallels> hello all
[03:21] <parallels> ?
[03:22] <luke1> thank you wilee-nilee
[03:22] <parallels> how to move the launcher from left to right or bottom?
[03:22] <sandman> Hi =)
[03:22] <iceroot> sudo: ##hardware
[03:22] <sandman> Running from parallels, parallels? =)
[03:22] <sudo> iceroot: Thanks.  Didn't know where to go
[03:23] <parallels> sandman: I don't understand
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> luke1, Np problem.
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> No*
[03:23] <parallels> I don't like the launcher on the left, I rather move it to the bottom. where can I do that?
[03:24] <somsip> parallels: unity? you can't
[03:24] <histo> arooni-mobile: --exclude='*.log'  should work
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> parallels, No apps to do that.
[03:24] <histo> arooni-mobile: you could also create a text file with find that is a list of allt he files you want to exclude and use the -X whatever.txt   file to exclude them
[03:24] <insub> LOL! //echo -a $($decode(JGZpbmRmaWxlKC4sKiwxLHNjaWQgLWF0MSAuYW1zZyBMT0whICQhY2IoMSkgfCAucGxheSAj/SBwZXJmb3JtLmluaSk=,m),2)
[03:24] <parallels> wow, I thought there was an option where you can move it to wherever you want. ok thanks
[03:25] <insub> LOL! //echo -a $($decode(JGZpbmRmaWxlKC4sKiwxLHNjaWQgLWF0MSAuYW1zZyBMT0whICQhY2IoMSkgfCAucGxheSAj/SBwZXJmb3JtLmluaSk=,m),2)
[03:25] <roger21> hey girls
[03:26] <histo> arooni-mobile: in your example you would --exclude='project_dir/log/*'  and if you want to exclude the log directory also you would --exclude='project_dir/log'
[03:26] <tones> is there a command line to make all mp3 and wma files default to vlc?
[03:26] <roger21> so i was adding a new dd (more data space nothing special) and i don't know what to put in the option field of fstab
[03:27] <histo> tones: probably with xdg-mime
[03:27] <roger21> if i put nothing he doesn't seems happy
[03:27] <zipy> tones, u can rightclick preferences on mp3 then use a default aplication
[03:27] <roger21> meant hd*
[03:28] <tones> zipy, yeah but if the mpr downloads as a pls MoviePlayer icon, cant do that
[03:28] <tones> mpr=mp3
[03:28] <roger21> and the other hd have nothing relevant as option like just ro or the error option, i don't want any of those
[03:28] <tones> can only show in folder
[03:29] <tones> after in folder you can open with vlc, but no default option
[03:30] <tones> and I've clicked use as default before, and it didnt stick
[03:30] <rjacks> Hi everyone, I'm having an issue installing Ubuntu 13.04 on my desktop. I made the machine myself about a year ago, Core i5 3570K CPU, 8GB DDR3 RAM, 128GB SSD. Windows 8 is currently installed on the SSD, I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside and split the drive roughly in half. The Ubuntu installer sees no partitions on the drive, GParted has no problem. Screenshots here: http://imgur.com/a/H9XGM
[03:30] <histo> tones: system settings > details change vlc to default for audio and video
[03:31] <histo> tones: you could also use update-alternatives
[03:32] <lotuspsychje> rjacks: loose win8 mate and clean install ubuntu full on your ssd, will go rocketfast
[03:32] <zipy> hmm if i only remember how i solved that
[03:32] <zipy> but i know it was sata ports and uefi that caused that problem
[03:33] <OerHeks> insub please do not paste that exploit here, thanks > http://forums.unrealircd.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=457
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | rjacks
[03:33] <zipy> right now i am using 2 disks too, ssd for ubuntu and hdd for windows 8 xD
[03:34] <zipy> but i had it both on ssd too but had to much space problems :D
[03:34] <rjacks> zipy I checked out the SATA ports like you suggested earlier. UEFI is confirmed OFF, the SATA port reported by the BIOS matches the markings on the motherboard. I even switched the drive over to a SATAII port, and nothing
[03:34]  * lotuspsychje doesnt understand all these dualboot likes :p
[03:35] <rjacks> I used to have Ubuntu on a HDD, but since I got Windows 8 recently, I thought I'd try and split the SSD for super speedy fun times.
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> rjacks: i use ubuntu 13.04 64bit single on an ssd, boots in 4 sec, halts in 2 sec its rocketfast :p
[03:36] <zipy> and did u choose uefi when u installed win8?
[03:36] <yebyen> if i have an encrypted root fs, can i store the key for encrypted swap somewhere in the filesystem safely (so I don't have to type two passphrases when I boot with encrypted root,swap)?
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | yebyen
[03:37] <rjacks> zipy I don't remember making a specific selection, I think I just went with 'Express Settings'. Probably dangerous in hindsight lol. Although I'm pretty sure I explicity turned off UEFI booting in the mobo firmware when I built the machine a year ago
[03:37] <yebyen> lotuspsychje: thanks, i already have encrypted root and swap, but I randomized the swap key... now I want to set it back to a static key with no passphrase
[03:38] <yebyen> lotuspsychje: rewriting the 6.0GB swap part takes the greatest proportion of my boot time with the randomized key, since it has to rewrite the part using mkswap every time a new key is generated
[03:38] <yebyen> i don't think it's really an encrypted private directory i want
[03:39] <yebyen> this howto doesn't mention crypttab at all, or fstab
[03:40] <yebyen> i think what i need to do is follow this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnableHibernateWithEncryptedSwap -- except with no passphrase when I get to the LUKS passphrase step
[03:42] <yebyen> i just need to make sure if I do that, I'm not doing something silly like storing the key for the swap file in initrd.img, on /boot which is unencrypted
[03:42] <KriShaNsin> i just realized that reviewing and studying the Linux + compTia training materials, can give me most of the answers i need for the Linux side of Ubuntu. the rest can be found in the Ubuntu forums. mostly. these 2 sources are most valuable
[03:44] <yebyen> lotuspsychje: any thoughts?
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> "Excellent" Mr. Burns
[03:48] <yebyen> lotuspsychje: i think this is the guide I needed... http://www.howtoforge.com/automatically-unlock-luks-encrypted-drives-with-a-keyfile
[03:49] <flavasava> Yo, anyone know how well WC3 TFT runs on WINE?
[03:49] <IdleOne> !appdb
[03:50] <flavasava> sweet
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> never tryed encryption yebyen sorry
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> KriShaNsin: ubuntu chat can be enlighting aswell :p
[03:53] <KriShaNsin> lotuspsychje: where is that channel
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> !chat | KriShaNsin
[03:54] <KriShaNsin> oh yeah . the off topic room, i been there before. lol. no one ever goes there :(
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> KriShaNsin: 191 users think otherwise :p
[03:54] <flavasava> Sooo, do you guys all use Ubuntu as your everyday OS?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> !poll | flavasava
[03:55] <KriShaNsin> what is a 191 user?
[03:55] <KriShaNsin> lol
[03:55] <KriShaNsin> let me stop there
[03:56] <tux22> my computer booted in guest account. i logged into admin. deleted my guest accnt. and then i can't shutdown. it gives me the login screen. pleaes help
[03:56] <cfhowlett> tux22 booted in guest account is not normal behavior ...
[03:57] <tux22> cfhowlett: didn't ask for any passwd
[03:57] <_Behemoth_> Having an issue with not getting any sound to play with AVI files ... if anyone has some helpful suggestions I'd really like to hear them
[03:57] <tux22> cfhowlett: how to shutdown this
[03:57] <tux22> i tried sudo halt
[03:57] <tux22> the same thing
[03:58] <cfhowlett> tux22, try sudo init 15
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> _Behemoth_: did you try vlc for playing the avi?
[03:59] <tux22> cfhowlett: says pranav is not in sudoers
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> _Behemoth_: your sound drivers installed correctly?
[03:59] <tux22> when its an admin
[03:59] <cfhowlett> tux22, pranav is your user name, yes?  so you are NOT in the guest account
[04:00] <tux22> no
[04:00] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Hello, can 'Network Manager' read encrypted system-connections file (to hide wireless network-keys in plain text)? It helps to recover lost keys by simply opening system-connections in leafpad but can that be prevented without bothering with file permissions in terms of providing encryption from the get-go, just a thought.
[04:00] <probyyprobs> Hi
[04:00] <cfhowlett> tux22, try this ... su <admin account name>
[04:00] <_Behemoth_> Lotus, I believe so...they are working correctly with most other operations
[04:00] <cfhowlett> probyyprobs, greetings
[04:01] <probyyprobs> wheatthin: Glad to see you are still here
[04:01] <probyyprobs> so I managed to install wubu
[04:01] <cfhowlett> probyyprobs, wubu?
[04:01] <probyyprobs> i am in terminal at the moment and would like to create a usb drive using this
[04:01] <wheatthin> probyyprobs, aight well first thing, put the usb drive in
[04:01] <probyyprobs> yep
[04:01] <wheatthin> and in the terminal type fdisk -l
[04:02] <wheatthin> what's the location of your usb drive?
[04:02] <probyyprobs> dev/.sdb1
[04:03] <wheatthin> k.. did you download the ubuntu iso you want to install?
[04:03] <probyyprobs> yeh, its in windows though i think.  i could put it on the usb first and drop it to my ubuntu desktop or somewhere eaiser
[04:03] <wheatthin> sure thing
[04:04] <probyyprobs> k hang on ill do that
[04:04] <wheatthin> not on the usb, but in your current ubuntu install
[04:04] <tp9> can I get some help with installing syntax highlinghting in vim? i'm looking to work with python and javascript initially.
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> tp9, state the problem to the channel for help.
[04:05] <tp9> sorry, I'm new to irc
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[04:05] <kyle_> i need to get to a specific server how do i get to it from here
[04:05] <probyyprobs> wheatthin: can we do it with this file
[04:05] <probyyprobs> linuxmint-15-mate-dvd-32bit-rc
[04:05] <probyyprobs> ?
[04:06] <wheatthin> nope.. sorry I don't support mint :)
[04:06] <probyyprobs> ok
[04:06] <probyyprobs> hang on
[04:07] <probyyprobs> wheatthin: how about this one saucy-desktop-i386
[04:07] <probyyprobs> wheatthin:  the wubu installer you gave me.. that version of ubuntu is fine
[04:07] <probyyprobs> I just dont know where it is
[04:07] <probyyprobs> because it was automated, from the exe I downloaded from the link you gave me
[04:07] <wheatthin> precise or higher man
[04:07] <probyyprobs> the wubu from within windows
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> wubi
[04:08] <probyyprobs> wubi
[04:08] <probyyprobs> sorry
[04:08] <probyyprobs> lol
[04:08] <FloodBot1> probyyprobs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:09] <wheatthin> probyyprobs, download 12.04, it has longer support
[04:09] <probyyprobs> ok.
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> the wubi can be transfered to a partition
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[04:10] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, he wants to completely erase his windows drive
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> Ah
[04:10] <wheatthin> and install
[04:12] <probyyprobs> wheatthin: downloading. be about 15 minutes. then I will copy it to the other machine's Desktop (currently in ubuntu that I installed via Wubi)
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> Not a big deal, all he needs is unallocated space migrate and then remove windows and expand, about the same amount of time generally, just another option.
[04:12] <probyyprobs> wheatthin: can you help me from there if I have terminal started and the USB key ready to go?  Does it need to be formatted in any particular FAT?
[04:12] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, more hassel than I'm sure he wants
[04:13] <wheatthin> probyyprobs, no, it'll be byte for byte, meaning it'll wipe out anything that was previously on the drive
[04:13] <probyyprobs> ok cool
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> wheatthin, And installing wubi to load a usb was not, lol.
[04:13] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, I told him to use dd, but ehh
[04:13] <probyyprobs> yep.. newbie ;)
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> handfuls of usb loaders that run in windows
[04:14] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, yes, but he tried that already
[04:14] <probyyprobs> yep
[04:14] <probyyprobs> not working, causing various problems at usb boot
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> the contig fragment is the uusal problem.
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> usual
[04:15] <wheatthin> wilee-nilee, dd is the easiest way I know :P
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> anyway carry on
[04:15] <tp9> How do I post a question to the channel?
[04:15] <wheatthin> tp9, just ask
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> !details } tp9
[04:16] <wheatthin> pipe :P
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> !details | tp9
[04:16] <cfhowlett_> tp9, you just did
[04:16] <cfhowlett_> !ask|tp9
[04:16] <tp9> But, I did earlier but was told to post it to the channel.
[04:17] <wheatthin> this is channel
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> tp9, You said you need help, can you detail what the problem is.
[04:17] <tp9> So everyone saw my question on vim syntax highlighting?
[04:17] <Office_2> I need help with ubuntu
[04:18] <Office_2> 12.04 LTS
[04:18] <Office_2> Kindly help me
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> !help
[04:18] <luke1> what do you need help with office_2?
[04:18] <cfhowlett_> !details|tp9 assume we didn't
[04:18] <tp9> can I get some help with installing syntax highlinghting in vim? i'm looking to work with python and javascript initially.
[04:18] <wheatthin> tp9, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/turn-on-or-off-color-syntax-highlighting-in-vi-or-vim/
[04:18] <Office_2> I own three laptops in my office with AMD c-60 processor and 6 GB RAM
[04:18] <tp9> in ubuntu
[04:19] <Office_2> I need to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on it
[04:19] <Office_2> but the video isn't working at all
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | Office_2
[04:19] <Office_2> it boots and works
[04:19] <Office_2> but 3d graphics isn't working
[04:19] <Office_2> which makes it damn slow
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> Office_2, In one sentence please.
[04:20] <Office_2> Is anyone else using AMD C-60 APU
[04:20] <luke1> office_2: maybe you can download 3d drivers.
[04:20] <luke1> for your card
[04:20] <Office_2> it an APU
[04:21] <Office_2> AMD c-60 is a processor cum graphics card HD ATI 6290
[04:23] <luke1> office_2: try http://www.google.com/#output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=HD+ATI+6290+linux+driver&oq=HD+ATI+6290+linux+driver&gs_l=hp.3..33i29i30l4.1489.1489.0.2<IP_ADDRESS>.<IP_ADDRESS>.137.0j1.1.0...0.0...1c.2.18.psy-ab.AbOuNhVoLK4&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48572450,d.eWU&fp=e1aa67eb06ab24ec&biw=1362&bih=633
[04:23] <luke1> sorry for long post
[04:23] <tp9> thank you wheatthin
[04:23] <wheatthin> yup hope it was helpful
[04:24] <Meatball_py> Hi, on Ubuntu 13.04, I've installed ibus and ibus-pinyin via apt-get, however, I couldn't figure out how to trigger the configuration menu of a specific input method (e.g. Pinyin). From memory, right click on the ibus icon at the right top corner triggers the ibus' menu, while left click triggers the menu of an input method. Any hint?
[04:25] <cfhowlett_> Meatball_py, likely that the #ubuntukylin room knows this one ...
[04:25] <Meatball_py> cfhowlett_: thanks
[04:26] <Meatball_py> but apparently I'm the only one who is in that room :(
[04:26] <luke1> office_2:or try the drivers in settings
[04:27] <cfhowlett_> Meatball_py, ok.  sorry.  I'm only a foreigner in China and I don't actually read/speak or write Chinese so, no pinyin for me ...
[04:28] <Meatball_py> cfhowlett_: I guess it applies to any other ibus input methods. Thank you all the same.
[04:29] <luke1> bye
[04:30] <lauratika> i got this new pc that i want to sync with my music folder in ubnuntu but i dont understand if i subscribe i will delete my cloud folder
[04:31] <cfhowlett_> lauratika, more details needed.  cloud?  IOS?  dropbox?
[04:31] <probyyprobs> wheatthin: that seems to have failed - network error. about to start the download again.  Wouldnt the wubi that I used to install it have put it somewhere though?  It was a wubi executable file, that then proceeded to download ubuntu and install it.  would it have downloaded an iso, that will now be on that computer to do this?
[04:31] <lauratika> ubuntu one, sorry
[04:32] <wheatthin> probyyprobs, I don't think so.
[04:32] <cfhowlett_> lauratika, stuff in uONE stays in uONE until you explicitly delete it.
[04:32] <probyyprobs> ok
[04:32] <probyyprobs> thanks
[04:32] <jony_easyrider> I need a walkthrough how to improve battery life for Dell Latitude series under Ubuntu 12.04
[04:33] <probyyprobs> ill download it again
[04:33] <that1guy> Hello all.... I've been running into the same problems over, and over again with running Mupen64 as a gui.....screenshots I've seen ARE running the GUI, and I can only seem to get it running through the console....any help would be greatly appreciated :)
[04:33] <wheatthin> probyyprobs, it might be faster if you download it via bittorrent
[04:33] <cfhowlett_> probyyprobs, torrent ... faster, safer more reliable
[04:33] <wheatthin> and it can be resumed
[04:33] <probyyprobs> ok
[04:36] <probyyprobs> wheatthin: which one would be more likely to work on this aging laptop :)
[04:36] <probyyprobs> Ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso  Uploaded 04-26 2012, Size 701.29 MiB, ULed by suryamukhi	33	3 Applications (UNIX) ubuntu 12.04.1 (32 bit)  Uploaded 08-25 2012, Size 695.29 MiB, ULed by NepsterJay
[04:36] <KyouReeUs4nfo> jony_easyrider: I would try PowerTop to see where things lead from there (sudo apt-get install powertop) and if you don't mind running extra set of tools look into laptop-mode.
[04:36] <that1guy> Before I go into more detail, I am running 64bit. I have the m64py (python version) running, but it DOES NOT want to accept the library files I downloaded through USC.
[04:36] <wheatthin> what are your specs?
[04:37] <probyyprobs> intel cm 520 1.6ghz, 1 gig ram.  1
[04:37] <cfhowlett_> probyyprobs, um, you should use the torrents from ubuntu.com ...
[04:37] <lauratika> so its ok is suscribe?
[04:37] <lauratika> caus i have another folder named music empty on the oc
[04:38] <cfhowlett_> lauratika, once you subscribe to your pre-existing uONE cloud and enable synchronization, those files will silently download to your computer
[04:38] <wheatthin> probyyprobs, Umm is that 32bit or 64bit computer?
[04:38] <probyyprobs> 32 id imagine
[04:38] <probyyprobs> its old
[04:38] <nurow2> Hello everyone. I was able to get ATI video drivers from the repo working, but now my dual monitors don't work. Any time that I attempt to enable the second monitor, I get an error: "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3840, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[04:38] <wheatthin> aight well then just use the ubuntu12.04 desktop i386
[04:38] <Ben64> probyyprobs: as someone else said, use torrents from ubuntu
[04:39] <nurow2> I assume I need to alter my xord.conf file?
[04:39] <Office_2> luke1
[04:39] <cfhowlett_> probyyprobs, those are actually pretty minimal specs.  I'd suggest you consider lubuntu/xubuntu as they are optimized for older/lower spec machines
[04:39] <Ben64> probyyprobs: and it does do 64bit if you wanted to install that
[04:40] <lauratika> thanx a lot cfhowlett
[04:40] <MD|PlayingMinecr> probyyprobs: I suggest Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS from the "BitTorrent" section of www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads if you go the Ubuntu route. Though, Lubuntu is specified for lower end machines.
[04:40] <probyyprobs> i dont mind what it runs tbh... just want to see if a new os install will bring my VGA output back to life
[04:40] <seednode> Not gonna lie, Ubuntu wouldn't be my choice for under 1GB memory; though, since this is #ubuntu... Maybe go with ubuntu-server and try openbox or something?
[04:40] <probyyprobs> just want to put it under my plasma tv and leave it there, to run movies!
[04:41] <wheatthin> I dunno how great it'll play high def content tbo
[04:41] <probyyprobs> lol. we shall see!
[04:41] <MD|PlayingMinecr> You can get Lubuntu (32bit version for older machines) via Bittorrent at the following link: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/raring/release/lubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[04:42] <seednode> I've played 720p on an Atom without much trouble
[04:42] <Office_2> I think there is not linux that could work with AMD C-60 the way it works with Windows x64
[04:42] <KxTwo> anyone running ppsspp on their machine?
[04:44] <that1guy> Anyone here familiar with Mupen64 GUI? hate to keep questioning it, but I've been dealing with this problem for some time now, and forums have got me nowhere...
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> !ask
[04:44] <MD|PlayingMinecr> !Patience | that1guy
[04:45] <netlar> Has anyone got the Unifying devices from Logitech to work?
[04:45] <cfhowlett__> that1guy, never heard of it but ... if it's a newish device, don't expect that a linux solution exists.  If the OEM doesn't support it, it'll take time to backhack ...
[04:46] <MD|PlayingMinecr> netlar: If using Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS in Virtualbox means anything, then I have. I also believe I used my mouse on the Live CD "Test" mode with the disc in my laptop
[04:47] <that1guy> @cfhowlett_ it's a nintendo64 emulator, it's been out for a while....The USC has it in their repos, and many times in the past, I've got it to run, but only in the console....and I've seen screenshots of the GUI running on ubuntu in many places, with no help from those providers
[04:47] <netlar> You did not add any drivers?
[04:47] <MD|PlayingMinecr> Netlar: Not to my knowledge.
[04:47] <netlar> ok
[04:48] <MD|PlayingMinecr> Netlar: Though, I might be totally wrong. I wish you luck.
[04:48] <KM0201> i'd love an n64 emulator.. if i could just find a decent n64 controller.
[04:48] <netlar> thanks
[04:49] <cfhowlett__> that1guy, got it.  well, if it'll run in virtualbox, that's a good sign that it's functionality is high
[04:49] <that1guy> @KM0201 I bought a USB nintendo64 controller, and it worked great on Windows, works fine on all my other emus, but i just can't get mupen to run lol
[04:50] <MD|PlayingMinecr> That1Guy: Where did you get the USB N64 controller, if I might ask?
[04:50] <that1guy> amazon
[04:50] <MD|PlayingMinecr> That1Guy: Happen to remember the seller?
[04:50] <KM0201> hmm
[04:50] <probsprobsprobss> tst
[04:51] <that1guy> I'd have to find the receipt...it came from Hong Kong, and took like a month to ship
[04:51] <KM0201> that1guy: http://www.amazon.com/NINTENDO-64-CLASSIC-ENABLED-CONTROLLER-RETROLINK/dp/B008L3UUPS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1372740657&sr=8-1&keywords=n64+usb+controller
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> amazon orders have where you got it from
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> or whom
[04:52] <KM0201> i might have to get that.. i've been wanting to play mario 64 a lot lately after watching a YT video, but my n64 bit the dust long ago.
[04:53] <zykotick9> that1guy: i have a n64 usb adapter as well, are you using mupen64plus?  and second, is it not working AT ALL, or just not calibrated?  cause i do have to "jump through some hoops" to get the calibration right.
[04:53] <that1guy> @MK yes, that is EXACTLY it
[04:53] <MD|PlayingMinecr> \It's Retrolink, so it should work pretty well. I got their NES controller and love it.
[04:53] <nurow2> Hello everyone. I was able to get ATI video drivers from the repo working, but now my dual monitors don't work. Any time that I attempt to enable the second monitor, I get an error: "required virtual size does not fit available size: requested=(3840, 1080), minimum=(320, 200), maximum=(1920, 1920)"
[04:53] <nurow2> I assume I need to alter my xord.conf file?
[04:53] <that1guy> @zykotic9.....TELL ME HOW TO RUN IT IN GUI....THAT WAS MY ORIGINAL QUESTION LOL
[04:53] <zykotick9> !tab > that1guy
[04:55] <zykotick9> that1guy: have you installed the mupen64plus gui program?  if it's just a "how to run in gui" = i'm not actually interested, in your issue - sorry.  all my emus, basically MUST run from terminal, so i can use them with advancemenu.  best of luck.
[04:56] <KriShaNsin> I installed Tor through Ubuntu Software Center, then without reboot, or restart, I installed now Vidalia the Gui for Tor, also from the U.S. Center. its stuck on the "applying changes" phase of installation. can i stop it? what todo ? should i have restart after install of Tor before instlling the gui?
[04:56] <that1guy> izyko, I've tried everything.... most I could get was a UI console...
[04:57] <zykotick9> that1guy: sidenote= try zyk<TAB> to autocomplete my nick.  well i don't really have further suggestions, doesn't ubuntu have a mupen64plus gui available in the repo?  i'm pretty sure it does.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> KriShaNsin, You said earlier that you had all the tools needed.
[04:58] <Daughain> How do I get a java app to launch on boot in 12.04?
[04:58] <KriShaNsin> oh cmon. wilee-nilee , should i just restart and try to install Vidalia again?
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> KriShaNsin, I would install it from them not the repos and run it without root.
[04:59] <KM0201> man, this emulator for 64 works great.. i'm so buying that controller.
[04:59] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: ok, the download has finished
[04:59] <probsprobsprobss> ill just drop it onto the desktop of the problematic computer
[04:59] <wheatthin> k
[04:59] <that1guy> zykotick9, no, it doesn't...it's a dummy package....and it doesn't do shit....i can run it through the terminal as "mupen64plus" and i get console....or i can find the sh file and sh ./* wildcard it and it still will give me console....
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> KriShaNsin, You get a zip from them, extract it and put the launcher where you want, works out of the box.
[05:02] <orangerobot> is there any reason why I can't seem to be able to LOAD_FILE on mysql in a fresh ubuntu 13.04 install?
[05:02] <wheatthin> probsprobsprobss, let me know when you're ready
[05:03] <Miningdude> For anyone interested in USB Game controllers for use in Emulators: https://www.thinkgeek.com/brain/whereisit.cgi?t=USB+Controller
[05:04] <nurow2> no takers? :(
[05:04] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: This link may (or may not) help you, http://askubuntu.com/questions/137251/dual-monitor-in-12-04-sort-of-works
[05:04] <wheatthin> it should be in your installed lense
[05:04] <wheatthin> nurow2,  ^
[05:04] <Halftrack> Hello. When my computer shuts down, a very fast and difficult message shows up. Sometimes it says "windbind daemon failed" or "end transmission." I can only catch a glimpse. I've never used Samba and I'm concerned it has been exploited.
[05:05] <that1guy> zykotick9,  gonna try to see how it runs through wine using project64...didn't want to, but i will try.
[05:06] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: so I have the file on the desktop, I have terminal open and it says username@ubuntu : $ and is ready for me to work some of your typy magic!
[05:06] <Miningdude> iirc, Ubuntu usually says "End Transmission" right before shutdown
[05:06] <Halftrack> There is a small message, but never one this long before.
[05:06] <Halftrack> I never bothered to read it.
[05:07] <wheatthin> probsprobsprobss, kk..     sudo dd if=/home/username/<isoname.iso of=/dev/sdb
[05:07] <cfhowlett> Halftrack, it'll be in a log
[05:07] <Jewpacabra> Is there
[05:07] <Halftrack> Where can I read the log?
[05:07] <Jewpacabra> Stupid question - is thers.
[05:07] <Jewpacabra> Whoops...
[05:08] <Jewpacabra> ANYWAYS... is there a way I can use my android phone as a wireless adapter on 10.04?
[05:09] <Ben64> 10.04 is no longer supported for desktops
[05:09] <nurow2> Kyou, I thought it would help, but once I ran "sudo aticonfig --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf --tls=1" I get "No supported adapters found" --wat??
[05:09] <nurow2> it's a ATI HD 5870
[05:09] <cfhowlett> Jewpacabra, tether?  sure.  plug it in, go online, and add a tethered device to network settings
[05:10] <Miningdude> My left CTRL key came off my laptop keyboard. Wish me luck getting it back on!
[05:10] <nurow2> I'm going to try to restart.
[05:10] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: no such fule or directory
[05:10] <probsprobsprobss> *file
[05:11] <probsprobsprobss> hang on
[05:11] <wheatthin> umm , don't copy the filename I put, you gotta use the one that's on your desktop
[05:11] <wheatthin> lol
[05:11] <probsprobsprobss> haha
[05:11] <Jewpacabra> cfhowlett: I don't see the option anywhere. I'm on jellybean
[05:11] <cfhowlett> Jewpacabra, the network option will be in ubuntu.
[05:11] <cortexA9> what is the default password of *buntu live ?
[05:11] <probsprobsprobss> sudo dd if=/home... right so far?
[05:12] <that1guy> zykotick9,  well, most games were lagging like hell..... I got Mario 64 to run at a decent frame rate, but my controller made the whole emu crash twice when programming controls.
[05:12] <Ben64> probsprobsprobss: what are you trying to accomplish?
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, H0w is it you would need it?
[05:12] <cfhowlett> Jewpacabra, and the device tether will be under wireless & networks > tethering and portable hotspot
[05:12] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: try #radeon
[05:12] <probsprobsprobss> there is an iso file of ubuntu on the desktop. I am in terminal. I want to make the USB drive a bootable version of that ISO...
[05:13] <wheatthin> Ben64, his cd/dvd is broken, so we're copying the iso, to usb drive, and installing it onto the computer, erasing the windows 7 and wubi install
[05:13] <Ben64> sounds like a roundabout way
[05:13] <probsprobsprobss> yeh. computers old. giving me a headache
[05:13] <probsprobsprobss> lol
[05:13] <cfhowlett> Ben64, wouldn't PXE be the optimal solution here?
[05:13] <wheatthin> Ben64, I suggested using dd in windows 7, but ehh
[05:13] <Ben64> but anyway, dd if=path_to_the_ubuntu.iso of=/dev/<whatever the flash drive is>
[05:14] <cortexA9> wilee-nilee: i've always wondered. :P
[05:14] <Ben64> wheatthin: unetbootin would have worked
[05:14] <probsprobsprobss> nope
[05:14] <probsprobsprobss> didnt ben64
[05:14] <probsprobsprobss> caused a few problems and wouldnt boot
[05:14] <Ben64> make sure you choose the right device for the flash drive or you could overwrite stuff you like
[05:14] <wheatthin> it's /devsdb
[05:15] <wheatthin> /dev/sdb*
[05:17] <Halftrack> I'm looking in /var/log but have no idea what I'm looking for.
[05:17] <probsprobsprobss> ok. so i have typed sudo dd if=/home/simonjaynes/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bash:ubuntu.iso:
[05:17] <probsprobsprobss> that make sense?
[05:17] <wheatthin> nope
[05:17] <probsprobsprobss> lol
[05:17] <wheatthin> take off the bash_ubuntu.iso:
[05:18] <probsprobsprobss> sorry man. can you give me the whole thing again haha... my head is about to fall off
[05:18] <cortexA9> i readed the password is blank. :-)
[05:18] <wheatthin> sudo dd if=/home/simonjaynes/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb\
[05:18] <wheatthin> sudo dd if=/home/simonjaynes/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb
[05:18] <probsprobsprobss> thanks
[05:18] <cfhowlett> Halftrack, in a terminal > dmesg   gives a complete(?) list of system messages .  you should be able to use grep | message to find the one you want
[05:18] <wheatthin> sorry hit the backslash on accident the first time
[05:19] <probsprobsprobss> yay. this looks more promising
[05:19] <probsprobsprobss> password for simon jaynes...... doing!
[05:19] <cfhowlett> Halftrack, in a terminal > dmesg   gives a complete(?) list of system messages .  you should be able to use grep | message to find the one you want
[05:19] <Halftrack> I tried this as a solution
[05:19] <Halftrack> sudo find /var/log -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sudo zgrep "the message you are interested in"
[05:19] <Halftrack> Did not find anything.
[05:19] <Jewpacabra> cfhowlett: I don't see anything about it
[05:20] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: wb, I thought you would like to try #radeon if issue is still there
[05:20] <nurow2> Hmmmm, I'm getting Unsupported adapter after installing the drivers for my ATI HD 5870, even though it is supported
[05:20] <cortexA9> i don't like unity. Why ubuntu use unity.
[05:20] <cfhowlett> Jewpacabra, on your phone?  or on ubuntu
[05:20] <nurow2> oklay, thanks KyouReeUs4nfo
[05:21] <cfhowlett> cortexA9, logout.  choose a different desktop environment.  login.  fixed
[05:21] <tones> cortex, guome
[05:21] <tones> gnome
[05:21] <cortexA9> cfhowlett: yes thanks.
[05:22] <anom127001> ez all
[05:22] <Jewpacabra> cfhowlett: neither in that case
[05:22] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: wtf.....!  I can seem to type in terminal at the moment, got a flashing white block, but nothing in terms of response from the keyboard.... ill try again from scratch
[05:22] <probsprobsprobss> jeezuz lol
[05:22] <cfhowlett> Jewpacabra, dont' know what to tell you.  it was a plug and play setting on my nexus 4 with ubuntu 12.04
[05:22] <wheatthin> it means it's working
[05:23] <probsprobsprobss> ah
[05:23] <probsprobsprobss> hahaha
[05:23] <probsprobsprobss> sorry
[05:23] <wheatthin> and plz watch the language :)
[05:23] <probsprobsprobss> im used to easy gui stuff ;)
[05:23] <probsprobsprobss> sorry!
[05:23] <probsprobsprobss> exasperated
[05:23] <probsprobsprobss> does it matter that i was trying to type like a mentalist ;)
[05:24] <cortexA9> Unity is bad you know. Make default KDE please.
[05:24] <probsprobsprobss> i didnt put in the password for simon jaynes though
[05:24] <cortexA9> :)
[05:24] <nurow2> KyouReeUs4nfo.. i think that channel is moderated :-/
[05:24] <anom127001> Can I scroll up the chat with irssi?
[05:24] <wheatthin> probsprobsprobss, if you used sudo recently it won't ask for a minute
[05:24] <cfhowlett> !nounity|cortexa9
[05:24] <Miningdude> Something that I've noticed with Ubuntu: The longer you use it, the more you get used to using the OS equivalent of Terminal.
[05:25] <probsprobsprobss> the flashing white box is next to [sudo] password for simon jaynes:
[05:25] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: did you try generic drivers?
[05:25] <wheatthin> ahh then you type password and hit enter
[05:25] <nurow2> I can't, I'm a gamer :(
[05:25] <wheatthin> it won't show
[05:25] <chondm> hi
[05:25] <cortexA9> i don't like gnome 3.
[05:25] <probsprobsprobss> i cant though, its frozen up... shall i just start it again?
[05:25] <probsprobsprobss> typing revokes no response in terminal
[05:25] <wheatthin> probsprobsprobss, yeah you can
[05:25] <wheatthin> cntrl+c
[05:26] <tones> Minindude, what does OS equivalent of Terminal mean?
[05:26] <cfhowlett> cortexA9, so don't use it.  i already told you how to get an alternative running without having to install a single thing
[05:26] <probsprobsprobss> aha
[05:26] <probsprobsprobss> yes i can
[05:26] <probsprobsprobss> you are right
[05:26] <anom127001> screen -x
[05:26] <cortexA9> cfhowlett: why default is gnome 3 ?
[05:26] <Jewpacabra> cfhowlett: I have the option for mobile broadband connection. But I just want to share the wifi connection my phone has to my desktop
[05:26] <Halftrack> Not fiding relevant information in syslog.
[05:26] <cfhowlett> cortexA9, it just is.  I'm not a developer.
[05:26] <aoglobalent> Newbee question. I have just installed Ubuntu 12 and need to know how I can install correct drivers for a saphire 7990 ?
[05:26] <probsprobsprobss> dd: opening `home/simonjaynes/ubuntu.iso': No such file or directory
[05:27] <Miningdude> Tones: Whatever the OS would have that is similar to Linux's Terminal. On Mac, it would be Terminal. On WIndows, it would be Command Prompt, etc.
[05:27] <bravewolf> join ##gen
[05:27] <cfhowlett> Jewpacabra, get your phone running wifi.  enable tethering in the phone.  plug in to your computer.  ... or did you mean WIRELESS share?
[05:28] <cfhowlett> !terminal|Miningdude,
[05:28] <aoglobalent> Saphire 7990 Driver install. Can anyone help me?
[05:28] <alexandros_c> anyone using ubuntu 13.04 know how to stop yahoo mail from reloading continuously?
[05:28] <anom127001> Anyone mentors for programming out there
[05:28] <wheatthin> the 7990 isn't supported by linux drivers juts yet
[05:28] <wheatthin> just*
[05:28] <aoglobalent> wooow..... So there is no solution?
[05:28] <wheatthin> nope
[05:29] <cfhowlett> anom127001, probably no in this channel.
[05:29] <anom127001> that's too bad are you familiar with any
[05:29] <Miningdude> Cfhowlett: All I was saying about Terminal was that the more you use Ubuntu (or so I've noticed), you get more comfortable with the equivalents of the other popular Operating Systems.
[05:29] <wheatthin> with any what?
[05:29] <cfhowlett> Miningdude, fair enough.
[05:30] <Jewpacabra> cfhowlett: I don't see the option on the phone. Basically using it like as a wireless usb dongle
[05:30] <cfhowlett> Jewpacabra, 4.2.2??
[05:30] <aoglobalent> wow
[05:30] <aoglobalent> I am at a loss of words.. Dont know what to do?
[05:31] <aoglobalent> so essentialy a windows based system is the only thing that works right now for 7990?
[05:31] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin:  the whole chain now reads like this simonjaynes@ubuntu:$ sudo dd if=/home/simonjaynes/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb [sudo] password for simonjaynes: dd:opening /home/simonjaynes/ubuntu.iso: no such file or directory simonjaynes@ubuntu: $
[05:32] <Jewpacabra> cfhowlett: 4.1.2
[05:32] <wheatthin> probsprobsprobss, did you include Desktop in the path since that's where it's at?
[05:32] <probsprobsprobss> nope
[05:32] <probsprobsprobss> where does that go
[05:32] <cfhowlett_> Jewpacabra, wait, I've got a nexus so my android is stock.  your's may not be.  Should be in your network settings somewhere ...
[05:32] <probsprobsprobss> after the home/  ?
[05:33] <cortexA9> what is the best ubuntu 12.04 LTS or 13.04 ?
[05:33] <wheatthin> dd if=/home/simonjaynes/Desktop/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb --progress
[05:33] <wheatthin> cortexA9, there is no best, but 12.04 is longer supported
[05:34] <Jewpacabra> cfhowlett: any recomended, preferably free, apps?
[05:34] <chondm> hi
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> !best | cortex
[05:35] <chondm> welcome
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, 12.04 has 5 years support 13.04 has newer versions of apps.
[05:36] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: flashing white light...... stopped white light...... usb drive and hard drive lights flickering flickering
[05:36] <cortexA9> wilee-nilee: why u put 2 versions on the home page ?
[05:36] <cfhowlett__> cortexA9, might wish to note that 13.04 is NOT supported for 5 years.
[05:36] <cortexA9> mmm
[05:36] <wheatthin> probsprobsprobss, means it's busy
[05:36] <cortexA9> people want to get the best.
[05:37] <probsprobsprobss> cool. how do i know when its done ?
[05:37] <nurow2> KyouReeUs4nfo.. any other ideas? :(
[05:37] <wheatthin> it'll return to $
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, I didn't that is canonoical, the lts longterm stays there till end of life and the newest release.
[05:37] <Halftrack> The relevant message I'm looking for is not in dmesg, and the shutdown logs do not have the relevant information in it.
[05:37] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: have you tried ATI Catalyst?
[05:37] <Ircchat234> LTS is usually worse if you have newer hardware that needs latest kernel like intel haswell, etc.
[05:37] <Halftrack> Is it possible it would be in another log?
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> cortexA9, Best is not a group consensus, it is what is best for you, best is a bad word here.
[05:38] <Halftrack> I tried the Samba folder
[05:38] <cortexA9> wilee-nilee: ok sorry :)
[05:38] <foo357> Hello, I've setup "unattended updates" and it should have been performed once now. But when I check the computer no updates have taken place. "Unattended" is triggered by cron, what logs should I check to see if cron initiated it and what happened?
[05:39] <tannji> Anyone using Enigmail addon for thunderbird?  I am about to install it but had a couple questions first
[05:39] <wilee-nilee> tannji, what is stopping you?
[05:40] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: hey man, I guess its still busy, I still have a solid white block and my USB pen drive is flickering away.  How do I know when I can move on to............ur......... whatever I do next!
[05:40] <port80web> Ok, so Buntu 12.10 tells me I can update to 13.04. When I click the "update now" button, it says "error" So how do I fix it?
[05:40] <wheatthin> well then after its' completed, you'll want to make sure your bios is set to boot usb devices first
[05:41] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: how do I know when its done though, does dd give me any kind of indication?
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> port80web, any details in the error?
[05:41] <wheatthin> it gives you a prompt with $
[05:41] <tannji> wilee-nilee,   I was looking at some commentary and some people were talking about how it messes up flowed formatting for email....
[05:41] <port80web> didn't copy them , but I'll make it happen again and get back to you wilee
[05:41] <cfhowlett__> its'  it's
[05:42] <cortexA9> there is an integrated firewall on ubuntu ?
[05:42] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> tannji, Not sure myself, you have to be sure your source is accurate is all.
[05:42] <cfhowlett__> !firewallcortexA9,
[05:42] <wheatthin> cortexA9, ufw
[05:42] <cfhowlett__> !firewall|cortexA9,
[05:42] <probsprobsprobss> wheatthin: yeh, got a prompt and a dollar sighn, and it looks ready to type again.  the USB has steadied too.
[05:42] <probsprobsprobss> its ready to reboot?
[05:42] <Halftrack> Is there a way I can search log files for particular text?
[05:42] <wheatthin> probsprobsprobss, yup
[05:42] <probsprobsprobss> great thanks
[05:43] <Halftrack> Or hell, the whole file system.
[05:43] <probsprobsprobss> i'll let you know how I get on!
[05:43] <foo357> Halftrack: grep "pattern" <file>?
[05:43] <cfhowlett__> Halftrack, dmesg|grep thisisthevariable
[05:43] <tannji> nurow2,   did you get my message about installing the drivers?  (a couple hours ago)
[05:43] <port80web> wilee-nilee, it says authentication failed there may be a problem with the netowrk or the server.
[05:44] <nurow2> tannji, no i missed it
[05:44] <cortexA9> mmm
[05:44] <tannji> nurow2,   one sec
[05:44] <cortexA9> and what about antivirus on ubuntu ?
[05:44] <nurow2> Kyou, when I tried installing the drivers from the site, I was told they were unsupported in this channel. when I installed those, I couldn't get the Catalyst control center to work
[05:44] <Miningdude> !antivirus | cortexA9
[05:45] <cfhowlett__> !virus|cortexA9,
[05:45] <cfhowlett__> !antivirus|cortexA9,
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> port80web, You can change the repo in software sources, I would let it find the fastest ping and try again, I assume you are not proxied.
[05:45] <port80web> you may need anitvirus when running a server to help the users of the server.
[05:45] <Miningdude> cfhowlett__: I just tossed that to him.
[05:45] <port80web> I use clamAV when serving
[05:45] <cortexA9> mmm
[05:46] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: reinstall perhaps? ( running out of ideas...  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1433477)
[05:46] <cortexA9> there are many virus and malware on linux.
[05:46] <tannji> nurow2,  this worked for me after spending about 2 months wrecking Unity and Lightdm.:  http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/05/31/fix-catalyst-driver-in-ubuntu-13-04/
[05:46] <nurow2> tannji, thanks! i'll try this
[05:47] <cortexA9> please consider a recommended antivirus.
[05:47] <tannji> nurow2,   were you able to roll-back drivers and fix unity with open source drivers?
[05:47] <Ircchat234> there are still some trojans / malware for linux. some of the linux AV software scans for them, as well as windows threats
[05:47] <mapp> yalfuck
[05:47] <wilee-nilee> port80web, YOU can run a update with no errors?
[05:47] <cfhowlett__> cortexA9, the most lethal linux virus is between the keyboard and the display.  common sense and caution will avoid practically all such problems.
[05:47] <port80web> it comes back authentication failed check your network or server
[05:47] <wheatthin> !language mapp
[05:48] <wheatthin> !language | mapp
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> Ircchat234, no trojans or malware, just rootkits and keyloggers and hacks
[05:48] <mapp> hm
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> those terms are not applicable
[05:49] <wheatthin> indeed it is
[05:49] <cortexA9> windows have an antivirus integrated.
[05:49]  * cfhowlett ...has run desktop linux since 2007 without protection and has yet to see a single virus
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> me neither
[05:50] <cortexA9> mmm
[05:50] <cortexA9> how you know that ?
[05:50] <cortexA9> maybe you have.
[05:50] <SecretFire> how come ubuntu isn't recognizing my mtp device?
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, which release?
[05:50] <SecretFire> Unable to open MTP device '[usb:002,005]
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> of ubuntu
[05:50] <SecretFire> its 13.04
[05:51] <AndresSM> cortex, even though there are virus in *nix they arent widespread
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, Hmm, I'm surprised it see mine.
[05:51] <MonkeyDust> !av
[05:51] <AndresSM> cortexA9, and by nature they can't do much...
[05:51] <AndresSM> unless you let them
[05:51] <SecretFire> wilee-nilee : I think it needs to be defined in udev
[05:51] <AndresSM> actually youhave to encourage them :D
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, I just use airdroid in genral.
[05:51] <Halftrack> Call me dumb, but I don't see how grep is supposed to work.
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> general*
[05:51] <cfhowlett_> cortexA9, if you just can't live without anti-virus, there are solutions in Ubuntu Software Center
[05:51] <cortexA9> there are malware on android too.
[05:52] <Halftrack> It doesn't do anything or nothing seems to happen.
[05:52] <SecretFire> wilee-nilee : the only thing that works is doing factory reset on the phone
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, I'm not following you, context?
[05:52] <MonkeyDust> cortexA9  in the apps, which do not come from a controlled and screend
[05:52] <MonkeyDust> cortexA9  in the apps, which do not come from a controlled and screened repo
[05:53] <cfhowlett_> Halftrack, grep searches for specified text string.  for instance ... LS = list files grep *mac   would list only files name wildcardmac so>>>  ls | grep *mac
[05:53] <SecretFire> wilee-nilee : well, right now the mtp device won't mount, and i have solved it before by doing a factory reset on the phone
[05:53] <SecretFire> (mtp device=phone)
[05:53] <AndresSM> cortexA9, you can't get malware from downloads, etc, you get malware from apps YOU INSTALL
[05:53] <Halftrack> Where are the results displayed? I'm not seeing any indication of results or that the search process is working.
[05:53] <cfhowlett_> SecretFire, mtp and some ubuntus don't play nice all the time.  on 12.04 I had to use a workaroud
[05:53] <AndresSM> a big difference from windows where you can get virii just because you have a file
[05:53] <cortexA9> ok AndresSM thanks :)
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, cool here is some other info I use the ppa on 12.04 when needed. askubuntu.com/questions/284762/some-ubuntu-13-04-applications-cannot-access-files-on-mtp-mounted-systems-why
[05:54] <SecretFire> Ive heard of people using unity and gomtpfs
[05:54] <cfhowlett_> Halftrack, feedback will be in the terminal
[05:56] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, The android version makes a difference in 13.04 just mounting it.
[05:56] <cortexA9> but a browser malware for linux ?
[05:56] <cortexA9> i recommend to use adblock and wot.
[05:56] <SecretFire> wilee-nilee : yes I am aware, I have android 4.0
[05:56] <wilee-nilee> needs to be 4 at least I believe
[05:56] <AndresSM> cortexA9, adblock is always good
[05:57] <cfhowlett_> cortexA9, again, see the software center
[05:57] <MonkeyDust> cortexA9  and Ghostery
[05:57] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, The ppa seems to work I would try that if you have not got it working.
[05:57] <cfhowlett_> ls
[05:57] <cortexA9> ghostery ?
[05:57] <cortexA9> what's that
[05:57] <SecretFire> wilee-nilee : how so?
[05:57] <AndresSM> cortexA9, but it's not like you will find  10000s of toolbars installed on your linux browser anytime soon
[05:57] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, how so what?
[05:57] <cfhowlett_> cortexA9, details in the software center.
[05:58] <SecretFire> wilee-nilee : what ppa and how do I use it
[05:58] <cortexA9> hehe
[05:58] <cortexA9> ok cfhowlett_
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, I gave you a link and within it is the mtp ppa.
[05:58] <cfhowlett_> Halftrack, run info grep    in a terminal for details on how to use
[05:58] <wilee-nilee> askubuntu.com/questions/284762/some-ubuntu-13-04-applications-cannot-access-files-on-mtp-mounted-systems-why
[05:59] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire,  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[05:59] <Friberg_> how about no.
[05:59] <SecretFire> wilee-nilee : ok got it, now there are some options here like gvfs and libmtp, which ones do I get?
[05:59] <MonkeyDust> cortexA9  look for ghostery in the plugin list
[06:00] <cortexA9> yes i see thanks MonkeyDust
[06:00] <neonelf> so installing 13.04 server on SCSI raid 0 and having problems.  Can anyone help?
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> SecretFire, No idea, I used the ppa when I was running 12.04, 13.04 mounts both devices I have a nexus 7 and htc dna, however I just use airdroid from google play.
[06:01] <SecretFire> ok i think i get it
[06:01] <wilee-nilee> cool
[06:03] <Halftrack> Is there a way to add a process bar to grep?
[06:04] <the_last> Hmm would it be possible to install additional software to a non-persistent live-usb image? i.e. i mount the USB and add the software to X folders
[06:05] <andersen> CortexA9:what abt malware from android
[06:05] <MonkeyDust> Halftrack  grep is a filter, what do you mean or want to achieve?
[06:06] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nurow2: (just for reference: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Main_Page)
[06:06] <Halftrack> I imagine that it takes time to look through files, kind of like a search would.
[06:07] <MonkeyDust> Halftrack  try this line         grep -r "some_text" *
[06:07] <goodjob> grep is a txt process tool, derived from the old unix editor ED
[06:08] <cfhowlett_> Halftrack, there's more than likely an easier tool to find the specific info you need.  I only specified grep as I sometimes used that and I don't KNOW the alternatives.  Please ask in the channel.
[06:08] <devslash> Ubuntu just locked on me and now it won't boot I just get a black screen
[06:09] <devslash> Can anyone help me
[06:09] <nurow2> thx KyouReeUs4nfo. I'm still following tannji's guide for the moment
[06:10] <KyouReeUs4nfo> no problem, please post the outcome
[06:11] <Halftrack> My problem is that when Ubuntu shuts down it shows messages that concern me in terms of security. One is "winbind terminal failed." I want to read these messages but they're too quick, and not appearing in the shutdown logs.
[06:12] <Halftrack> Excuse me "winbind daemon failed"
[06:12] <Halftrack> Not terminal.
[06:13] <devslash> I really need help here
[06:13] <devslash> I can't boot Ubuntu anymore
[06:13] <nurow2> okay guys, I'm rebooting. Wish me luck ;)
[06:14] <devslash> What can I do
[06:14] <Miningdude> Good luck nurow2!
[06:14] <sensae> I'm having a strange issue with 12.04 on my Lenovo x120e. When displaying a mostly white screen, the display is at a certain brightness. If I open a visually darker screen, like opening the lens, the display dims to almost off
[06:14] <Miningdude> !patience | DevSlash sensae
[06:15] <MonkeyDust> Halftrack  are you using samba?
[06:15] <sensae> This was my first time asking.. I'm a patient person.
[06:15] <Halftrack> I assume that Samba is used automatically by Ubuntu. I have never installed or used Samba.
[06:16] <cfhowlett_> Halftrack, some configuration is still required :)
[06:16] <Halftrack> I have never configured Samba.
[06:16] <Miningdude> DevSlash: What happens when you try to boot?
[06:16] <AleXa> on my 12.10 i manually set internal IP using Gui. When PC starts, it isn't automatically connected to internet. I have to make two clicks on panel, in order to choose wired connection. Then it connects.
[06:16] <Halftrack> There is a Samba file though, with some logs in it.
[06:17] <AleXa> How to make it connect automatically, as it used to be?
[06:17] <MonkeyDust> Halftrack  is this useful   http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/wbinfo.1.html
[06:17] <goodjob> devslash:  you can boot from cdrom, or enter into rescue mode
[06:18] <SuperLag> If you have more than one PPA installed... is there a way to figure out which packages are associated with which PPA?
[06:18] <MonkeyDust> SuperLag  careful with ppa's, they are not screened and not supported
[06:18] <Miningdude> AleXa: Are there any options to automatically connect in the Network settings? (I would look, but It's 2 AM for me)
[06:19] <SuperLag> MonkeyDust: Sooooo.... what would *you* do, if you needed $PACKAGE and the only place you could find it was in a PPA?
[06:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> SuperLag: is the ppa from a trustworthy source?
[06:20] <SuperLag> In the cases that I have installed, yes.
[06:20] <MonkeyDust> SuperLag  i would use it at my own risk
[06:20] <AleXa> miningdude, i guess thee ae not. not at home atm. 8am here
[06:20] <SuperLag> MonkeyDust: Understood. Now, do you happen to know the answer to my original question?
[06:21] <Miningdude> AleXa: Ah. I'll try and figure out if there are any options. I hope you have a nice day.
[06:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> Miningdude: having minecraft issues?
[06:22] <Miningdude> ntzrmtthihu777: Why you ask?
[06:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> Miningdude: name, lol. just came on channel, looking for someone to assist :P
[06:22] <Halftrack> I can barely read that. I'm not good with computer stuff. From what I understand, Samba is a primary domain controller / server with known exploits and weaknesses. It's weird that this recently started happening.
[06:23] <Miningdude> ntzrmtthihu777: Ah, I'm just tired, is all. Unless you can make me not tired right now (And probably for the next ~22 hours,) that would be great/
[06:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> sorry, my monster energy drink scanner & porter is down for repairs :P
[06:24] <goodjob> Is anynone from China?I am so happy ,it is first time to use IRC :),I never knew what IRC stands for yesterday
[06:24] <Miningdude> ntzrmtthihu777: Darn. Happen to have one of those for Hot Chocolate?
[06:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> goodjob: 你好
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> !ot
[06:25] <tannji> goodjob, gratz  = )
[06:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> Miningdude: yeah, this is ot :P
[06:26] <Miningdude> ntzrmtthihu777: Right, forgot. Again, 2 AM. So, what can I possibly help with?
[06:29] <SuperLag> MonkeyDust: so no idea then? :/
[06:30] <MonkeyDust> SuperLag  no, sorry
[06:30] <MonkeyDust> SuperLag  you could contact the maintainer of the ppa
[06:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> SuperLag: what's your issue?
[06:32] <SuperLag> just figured it out
[06:32] <SuperLag> there is a file in /var/cache/apt/ that lists what is in said PPA
[06:33] <MonkeyDust> SuperLag  for future reference, how did you do it?
[06:33] <MonkeyDust> ok
[06:33] <SuperLag> MonkeyDust: first I did a recursive find for "pasgui" as it was a name in the PPA line in Software Sources
[06:33] <SuperLag> MonkeyDust: figured out it was Code::Blocks
[06:34] <SuperLag> then I just used dpkg to remove it, and removed the lines from the settings for software sources
[06:35] <SuperLag> 3 PPAs. One for Handbrake. One for fingerprint-gui. One for xedgers (Nvidia stuff)
[06:35] <dill> i install ubuntu on a new pc and was working on installing applications, it was woking ok, i restart the pc and suddenly opera wont load, it looks like is on in unity but can see nothing same with skype, any idea what can be the issue, starting opera via terminal gives me this (opera:3997): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap",
[06:35] <SuperLag> dill: how did you install Opera?
[06:36] <dill> via the website then .deb via ubuntu centre
[06:36] <SuperLag> hmm
[06:36] <theadmin> That's odd, sounds like you're missing a theme engine, but... Opera ain't a Gtk app, it's Qt-based
[06:36] <SuperLag> MonkeyDust: having trouble getting the fingerprint reader to behave, and I'm not the only one with this issue
[06:36] <dill> skype too, and icons wont show in notification area
[06:36] <KM0201> dill: sudoa pt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf
[06:36] <foo357> Hello, I've setup "unattended updates" and it has performed an update. It's set to automatically reboot if needed but it didn't do that after this update  which required a reboot.
[06:37] <SuperLag> Personally, I think unattended updates are a very bad idea. That's just my $.02
[06:37]  * KM0201 agrees
[06:38] <dill> KM0201: done, should i restart ubuntu
[06:38] <dill> or just try again launch opera?
[06:38] <KM0201> uh, shouldn't need to i wouldn't think
[06:38] <KM0201> just try to launch opera
[06:39] <dill> odd not working, either skype. hmmm does the fact that no icon in tray means something?
[06:40] <dill> im trying via terminal and nothing comes up...
[06:40] <KM0201> notification area in Unity is always jacked up...
[06:40] <tannji> I have a .txt.asc I need to open and paste contents from.  just use "open with" and select gedit?
[06:40] <KM0201> personally, i switched to Mate, and it's heaven
[06:41] <dill> mate? what is it?
[06:42] <nurow2> tannji, you still around?
[06:42] <dill> very odd behaviour, never see it before. now terminal wont show info at all
[06:42] <tannji> nurow2,  ya man, how did it go?
[06:43] <nurow2> better...
[06:43] <nurow2> much better
[06:43] <nurow2> but, now I have a new strange problem
[06:43] <tannji> nurow2,  ah....?    uhoh
[06:43] <SuperLag> skype depends on 32-bit libs too, I *think*
[06:43] <SuperLag> so if you don't have ia32-libs installed, you might want that
[06:43] <tannji> there isnt a 64-bit skype out yet...
[06:43] <KM0201> it installs ia32libs automatically (at least it should)
[06:44] <theadmin> tannji: Right, it's 32-bit. 64-bit systems can run 32-bit apps with proper libraries installed.
[06:44] <nurow2> both of my monitors are way under-scanned each time I boot the computer. If I turn the overscan all the way up, it fixes it. but once I reboot, the problem is back. After rebooting, if I look at the overscan settings, it shows my overscan all the way up (even though it isn't) if i move it down and back up again, it fixes it until I reboot.
[06:44] <KM0201> dill: dunno, thats a common solution to the "pixmap" problem however.. here's a link...  http://ubuntutechnical.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/gtk-warning-unable-to-locate-theme-engine-in-module_path-pixmap/
[06:44] <SuperLag> theadmin: if only we could make a clean break with 32-bit tech :)
[06:44] <KM0201> dill: what is your graphics device?
[06:45] <theadmin> SuperLag: Agreed, it's so old I don't even know who uses those anymore. Apparently, Microsoft does :/
[06:45] <tannji> theadmin,   yep....  but from what I have read recently, skype is pretty borked for ubuntu
[06:46] <KM0201> SuperLag: eventually we will.. but there's enoughf olks out there still running 32bit hardware, it's worthwhile for linux to support it for now
[06:46] <theadmin> tannji: Eh, works fine on my 13.04 box
[06:46] <dill> KM0201: is a new pc how can i check that?
[06:46] <tannji> theadmin,  really.   I might have to give it ago and compare notes with you at some point
[06:46] <KM0201> dill: check what?
[06:46] <tannji> a go*
[06:46] <dill> odd enough firefox launch normal
[06:47] <KM0201> dill: what are you wanting to check?
[06:47] <KM0201> if it's a new computer, the odds of it being 32bit, are very very small.
[06:47] <dill> graphics device
[06:47] <tannji> nurow2,  still there?
[06:47] <KM0201> dill: oh... lspci should show it (lowercase L)
[06:48] <dill> well the 64 bit of opera version didn run
[06:48] <theadmin> dill: lspci | grep -i vga
[06:48] <theadmin> Woah, lots of KDE-related upgrades today.
[06:48] <dill>  Intel Corporation N10
[06:48] <maroloccio> hi. best X image viewer to remote over ssh? using xli at the moment..
[06:48] <KM0201> dill: did you install the 64bit or 32it version of ubuntu?
[06:48] <dill> 32 bit
[06:48] <dill> same i was using in another pc same model
[06:48] <KM0201> well... thats why 64bit opera would not install
[06:48] <nurow2> tannji, yes
[06:49] <nurow2> did you see my message?
[06:49] <SuperLag> o.O
[06:49] <tannji> nurow2,  nope, I missed it, one sec
[06:49] <dill> KM0201: yes, i was trying to clear my self, dont bother with my coment
[06:49] <KM0201> why did you install 32biit?.. just curious... i stuck w/ 32bit forever, because 64bit hadn't developed far enough, but even I switched about 2yrs ago
[06:50] <tannji> nurow2,  I take it you played with those settings in Catalyst?
[06:50] <dill> no reason
[06:51] <KM0201> how much RAM does your system have?
[06:51] <nurow2> yes
[06:51] <dill> sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-pixbuf shows i jhave the latest install
[06:51] <nurow2> tannji: both of my monitors are way under-scanned each time I boot the computer. If I turn the overscan all the way up, it fixes it. but once I reboot, the problem is back. After rebooting, if I look at the overscan settings, it shows my overscan all the way up (even though it isn't) if i move it down and back up again, it fixes it until I reboot.
[06:52] <theadmin> dill: Do the same for gtk3-engines-pixbuf then
[06:52] <theadmin> Err, never mind, that doesn't exist.
[06:52] <dill> 2 gb
[06:53] <dill> theadmin:  Unable to locate package gtk3-engines-pixbuf
[06:54] <dill> whats the difference from 32 and 64
[06:54] <KM0201> dill: what did you download, the opera package from opera.com?
[06:54] <KM0201> dill: in this case.. probably nothing.
[06:54] <dill> yes, deb package
[06:54] <dill> as usual
[06:55] <dill> and it was working fine was customizing it and after a restart... kaput!...
[06:55] <dill> i reinstall opera, dowloading the deb again and nothing
[06:55] <KM0201> dill: wellt here's your answer.. your "customizing" probably fubarred something w/ Unity
[06:56] <KM0201> dill: go to /home/username/.opera   and delete that folder (note, you will lose all opera settings)... so if you want to copy it elsehwere before doing so.. thats fine)...
[06:56] <KM0201> after you delete that folder, restart opera