[12:32] <Cydonia> now i'm just stumped on actually getting a tunnel setup
[12:32] <Cydonia> to shunt all tcp/ip through it
[12:33] <kiba> hola - hello
[12:33] <Healot> hola...
[12:33] <Cydonia> I'm completely lost :(
[12:33] <kiba> hola :)
[12:33] <kiba> tengo un problema
[12:33] <Healot> Cydonia: with linux tp, i am lost too
[12:33] <kiba> acabo de instalar kubuntu -ive installed kubuntu now
[12:34] <Healot> okay... what's seems to be the probleme now?
[12:34] <kiba> y no se como instalar los drivers de nvidia - and i dont know how to install the nvidia drivers
[12:34] <Healot> !ati
[12:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:34] <Healot> follow the link obut gave you... kiba, come back if you encounter muy problemas
[12:35] <Cydonia> !xen
[12:35] <ubotu> xen is a a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/
[12:35] <Cydonia> !tunneling
[12:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about tunneling
[12:35] <Cydonia> aww
[12:35] <Healot> !tunnel
[12:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about tunnel
[12:35] <Healot> !find tunnel
[12:35] <ubotu> Found: 6tunnel, carpaltunnel, httptunnel, ptunnel, stunnel (and 4 others)
[12:36] <Cydonia> !tun0
[12:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about tun0
[12:36] <Cydonia> !find tun0
[12:36] <ubotu> No packages matching 'tun0' could be found
[12:36] <Healot> Cydonia: what tunnelling app are you using btw?
[12:36] <Cydonia> !stunnel
[12:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about stunnel
[12:36] <Healot> !info stunnel
[12:36] <ubotu> stunnel: Universal SSL tunnel for network daemons. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2:3.26-7ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 128 kB, installed size 396 kB
[12:37] <Cydonia> the linux kernel
[12:37] <Arschmade> hallo ein deutscher da der mir erklren kann wo ich java fr kubuntu herbekomme...? weil unter apt find ich nix
[12:37] <Cydonia> :P
[12:37] <Healot> !java
[12:37] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:37] <Healot> follow that link, Arschmade
[12:37] <Arschmade> thx
[12:37] <Healot> !info sun-java5-jre
[12:37] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[12:38] <Healot> !info sun-java5-jde
[12:38] <ubotu> Package sun-java5-jde does not exist in dapper
[12:38] <Healot> !info sun-java5-jdk
[12:38] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[12:38] <Arschmade> E: Konnte Paket sun-java5-jre nicht finden
[12:38] <Arschmade> could not find the package
[12:38] <Arschmade> ^^
[12:39] <Healot> !multiverse
[12:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:39] <Healot> enable the multiverse and universe sections of "dapper"  repos first, Arschmade, once again follow the other link
[12:40] <Arschmade> ok
[12:40] <Healot> Arschmade: use adept... for easy does it
[12:40] <jc-denton> humm
[12:43] <Healot> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse >> you should have something like this in your /etc/apt/sources.list file, Arschmade
[12:43] <Arschmade> i got this one now what should i do with it ? >>> jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin
[12:44] <Healot> Arschmade: run it... cd to the directory where that file resides, type ./jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin
[12:45] <slow-motion> hallo
[12:46] <Arschmade> bash: ./jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin: Permission denied
[12:46] <SkrotFFS> chmod a+x jre....
[12:47] <Healot> chmod +x jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin && ./jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin
[12:48] <Arschmade> it works
[12:48] <Arschmade> big thx
[12:49] <Arschmade> im new in kubuntu
[12:50] <rostok> hi
[12:51] <Arschmade> hmmm
[12:51] <Arschmade> frostwire dont start
[12:52] <cpk> !llibgtk
[12:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about llibgtk
[12:52] <cpk> !info libgtk
[12:52] <ubotu> Package libgtk does not exist in dapper
[12:52] <Arschmade> java is installed but it dont start either
[12:52] <Cavallo> how should I install karambo on kubuntu ? from source ? or there ia already any package ?
[12:52] <Cydonia> !firestarter
[12:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[12:52] <Cydonia> !info iptables
[12:52] <ubotu> iptables: Linux kernel 2.4+ iptables administration tools. In repository main, is standard. Version 1.3.3-2ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 309 kB, installed size 972 kB
[12:56] <Healot> !info firestarter
[12:56] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[12:57] <cpk> !info gtk
[12:57] <ubotu> Package gtk does not exist in dapper
[12:57] <afm\colossus> !info gtk+
[12:57] <ubotu> Package gtk+ does not exist in dapper
[12:57] <afm\colossus> !info gtk2
[12:57] <ubotu> Package gtk2 does not exist in dapper
[12:57] <afm\colossus> lol
[12:57] <Healot> !info libgtk2-common
[12:57] <ubotu> Package libgtk2-common does not exist in dapper
[12:57] <Healot> !info libgtk2.0-common
[12:57] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-common: Common files for the GTK+ graphical user interface library. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.8.18-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2 kB, installed size 12332 kB
[12:57] <cpk> haha
[12:57] <Healot> !info libgtk1.2-common
[12:57] <ubotu> libgtk1.2-common: Common files for the GTK+ library. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-18 (dapper), package size 154 kB, installed size 940 kB
[12:57] <Healot> looking for gtk development header?
[12:58] <cpk> trying to help a friend, was trying to figure out the package name for synaptic
[12:58] <Cydonia> !uml
[12:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about uml
[12:58] <Cydonia> !UML
[12:58] <Healot> !info pmi
[12:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about UML
[12:58] <ubotu> Package pmi does not exist in dapper
[12:58] <|lostbyte|> !info info
[12:58] <Healot> sudo pmi action hibernate
[12:58] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In repository main, is standard. Version 4.8-4 (dapper), package size 209 kB, installed size 384 kB
[12:58] <SkrotFFS> Cydonia: What are your looking for?
[12:59] <Healot> basically I think he is looking for a tunneling program?
[12:59] <Healot> and I am not sure... about that
[12:59] <SkrotFFS> oh. I was thinking UML as in Unified Modeling Language =)
[12:59] <Healot> ubuntu developer. cool
[01:00] <Cydonia> are there any server-type programs that will listen on <IP_ADDRESS> for packets coming from <IP_ADDRESS>, and then forward them on to my router (<IP_ADDRESS>), -> internet?
[01:00] <Cydonia> uml = user mode linux
[01:00] <Cydonia> or xen
[01:01] <Cydonia> <IP_ADDRESS> would be the uml'ed kernel
[01:01] <Cydonia> :)
[01:04] <acesuares> Cydonia: redirect
[01:04] <acesuares> Don't know if it still exists but it used to be a standard Debian package.
[01:04] <acesuares> or iptables.
[01:04] <Cydonia> !search redirect
[01:04] <ubotu> Found nothing
[01:07] <indieross> i just downloaded xmms and im wondering how to install it its a tag.gz file
[01:07] <Bazzi> long story short: you don't
[01:07] <cpk> lol
[01:07] <Bazzi> use ubuntus xmms version
[01:07] <indieross> where can i find thatr
[01:07] <Bazzi> in adept / with aptitude
[01:08] <indieross> ok im a noob with aptitude?
[01:08] <indieross> what repository do i use
[01:09] <Bazzi> !universe
[01:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:10] <indieross> are all of these available to kubuntu
[01:10] <Bazzi> sure
[01:11] <AncientNewbie> thernet connection does not work properly on
[01:11] <AncientNewbie> linux
[01:11] <indieross> where can i find a list of repositories with media codecs
[01:11] <AncientNewbie> dunno why
[01:11] <indieross> or media pplayers
[01:12] <cpk> mplayer
[01:12] <cpk> i think mplayer has all the codecs you need at their site?
[01:12] <cpk> !mplayer
[01:12] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs
[01:12] <Bazzi> indieross:
[01:13] <Bazzi> !restrictedformats
[01:13] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:13] <cpk> !codecs
[01:13] <cpk> ...
[01:13] <cpk> !codecs
[01:13] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:13] <indieross> !codecs
[01:13] <indieross> ahh nm
[01:14] <cpk> !info codecs
[01:14] <ubotu> Package codecs does not exist in dapper
[01:14] <indieross> ok now that i have the package how do i go about installing it
[01:15] <indieross> its a tar.bx2
[01:15] <indieross> bz2*
[01:18] <cpk> tar -xvjf
[01:18] <hugelmopf> indieross: do you mean a tar.bz2 of mplayer? you shouldn't install the package from a tar.bz2 that you downloaded, but use adept or aptitude to install ubuntu's prepackaged version of it.
[01:18] <r0xz> indiecross: unpack it (command-line or ark), and read the INSTALL or README file. But going apt-get is much easier, i would recommend that
[01:19] <indieross> i couldnt find it on adept
[01:19] <afm\colossus> use the force of your package management software
[01:19] <raphink> indieross: are you sure you activated all the repositories?
[01:19] <raphink> indieross: what package is that?
[01:19] <indieross> some of them didnt work and wouldnt update
[01:21] <raphink> indieross: what package is missing for you?
[01:21] <indieross> mplayer
[01:21] <raphink> indieross: mplayer is in multiverse
[01:22] <raphink> indieross: just activate the multiverse repository and you'll have it
[01:22] <raphink> !repositories
[01:22] <indieross> whats the full name for multiverse
[01:22] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:22] <cpk> !multiverse
[01:23] <cpk> !info multiverse
[01:23] <ubotu> Package multiverse does not exist in dapper
[01:23] <cpk> !multiverse
[01:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:23] <D4m4ge> !?
[01:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about ?
[01:23] <raphink> indieross: read what ubotu said
[01:23] <D4m4ge> ooops sorry ubotu
[01:23] <raphink> !$
[01:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about $
[01:23] <raphink> hehe
[01:23] <D4m4ge> !love
[01:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about love
[01:24] <raphink> don't understand bash, ubotu ?
[01:24] <raphink> that's too bad
[01:24] <raphink> !life
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about life
[01:24] <D4m4ge> laughing out loud
[01:24] <raphink> no wonder, if you stay all the time in here
[01:24] <D4m4ge> how about friends?
[01:24] <raphink> !myself
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about myself
[01:24] <afm\colossus> !making love. :(
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about making love. :(
[01:24] <raphink> looooooooooooool
[01:24] <D4m4ge> poor bot
[01:24] <afm\colossus> :< poor ubotu
[01:24] <indieross> haha
[01:25] <D4m4ge> it's cruel
[01:25] <raphink> rofl
[01:25] <D4m4ge> free Uberriffic !
[01:25] <D4m4ge> free ubotu ! *
[01:25] <raphink> !people making fun of me :s
[01:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about people making fun of me :s
[01:26] <cpk> bullies
[01:26] <cpk> !standing up for myself
[01:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about standing up for myself
[01:26] <raphink> yes, no wonder
[01:26] <raphink> !jpatrick coming into the room
[01:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about jpatrick coming into the room
[01:27] <jpatrick> ubotu: well thou art blind
[01:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about well thou art blind
[01:27] <raphink> jpatrick: that's my conclusion, too
[01:28] <jpatrick> raphink: they say great minds think alike
[01:28] <raphink> lol
[01:28] <raphink> do not take hasty conclusions either, young padawan
[01:28] <raphink> :)
[01:28] <jpatrick> yes master
[01:29] <raphink> :)
[01:29] <raphink> !the dark side of the force
[01:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about the dark side of the force
[01:29] <raphink> take example on ubotu
[01:30] <jpatrick> !the dark side of the source
[01:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about the dark side of the source
[01:30] <raphink> hehe
[01:30] <raphink> that's good, too
[01:30] <cpk> !microsoft
[01:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about microsoft
[01:30] <cpk> and keep it that way
[01:30] <raphink> that's good
[01:31] <raphink> !installing windows
[01:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about installing windows
[01:31] <raphink> now I love this bot
[01:31] <raphink> :)
[01:31] <jpatrick> @lart raphink
[01:31] <jpatrick> i prefer that^
[01:31] <raphink> no comment
[01:32] <raphink> think aboiut it twice when you need a sponsor for main :)
[01:32] <raphink> hehe :)
[01:32] <karlrhs> question about filesharing does anyone have a moment?
[01:32] <jpatrick> It was just an example of Ubugtu's  powers
[01:32] <raphink> karlrhs: I don't know about a moment of filesharing
[01:32] <raphink> moments are more likely to be of inertia iirc
[01:33] <raphink> anyway what's your problem karlrhs?
[01:33] <cpk> @lart jpatrick
[01:34] <raphink> karlrhs: feel free to ask your question whenever you get the chance
[01:34] <jpatrick> !ask
[01:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:34] <karlrhs> It seems when I go into system settings and then to fileshareing it asks for my main password
[01:34] <raphink> :)
[01:35] <karlrhs> then nothing ....... it will not let me type into any field
[01:35] <raphink> karlrhs: that seems reasonable
[01:35] <raphink> ah
[01:35] <raphink> karlrhs: using dapper?
[01:35] <karlrhs> yes
[01:35] <m_tadeu> hello
[01:35] <karlrhs> sorry if I am slow...
[01:35] <cpk> !hello
[01:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about hello
[01:35] <m_tadeu> what's the command to change the dm?
[01:35] <cpk> ubotu: its a greeting
[01:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about its a greeting
[01:36] <jpatrick> poor bot..
[01:36] <raphink> karlrhs: after you enter your password, having clicked the administrator mode button, you should get a red line around the window
[01:36] <raphink> do you get that?
[01:37] <raphink> m_tadeu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[01:37] <karlrhs> Yes I get the red line but none of the fields allow any imput
[01:37] <raphink> should do for example
[01:37] <m_tadeu> raphink: thx a lot :)
[01:37] <raphink> karlrhs: did you check the box at the top of the window?
[01:38] <raphink> to activate filesharing
[01:38] <karlrhs> It is checked but I did not check it.   It is shaded so that it can not be changed
[01:39] <cpk> i'm curious is there an easy gui for samba or something like samba?
[01:39] <raphink> karlrhs: are yo up-to-date ?
[01:39] <cpk> mainly to share with windows clients
[01:39] <karlrhs> Yes one moment while I check?
[01:39] <raphink> cpk: there's a small gui in systemsettings
[01:39] <raphink> not very powerful though
[01:39] <raphink> cpk: samba.conf is very easy to use though
[01:39] <raphink> cpk: or do you mean to browse samba shares ?
[01:40] <raphink> in that case : smb:/ in konqueror
[01:40] <cpk> back before my HD died i was trying to get samba to work but couldnt seem to get the computers to see each other or anything
[01:40] <cpk> so now i am waiting for my new hd and was just wondering
[01:40] <karlrhs> I am totally current with updates
[01:41] <steveire> Is it the first of june in LA yet?
[01:41] <cpk> yes
[01:41] <cpk> 4 40
[01:42] <steveire> Icool, thnaks
[01:42] <steveire> Just remembered a birthday
[01:42] <gupta> Hi all, check this out:
[01:42] <gupta> rrr=$(which $1)
[01:42] <gupta> cp -l $rrr ~/Desktop/
[01:42] <gupta> Desktop shortcut creator!! hehe
[01:43] <karlrhs> do I need to download any other config software?
[01:43] <cpk> also raphink i like kde alot more than gnome but am a very lazy man and would be bummed if the kde distro didnt share all the gnome packages?
[01:43] <cpk> i guess that was worded poorly but you get what i am saying?
[01:44] <raphink> cpk: not sure I understood
[01:44] <jpatrick> cpk: all you need about Microsoft: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Microsoft
[01:44] <raphink> karlrhs: I do not think so
[01:44] <raphink> karlrhs: did you install NFS or samba?
[01:45] <karlrhs> let me check.
[01:46] <cpk> thanks jpatrick, uncyclopedia is always good for a laugh
[01:46] <jpatrick> :)
[01:47] <cpk> does kbuntu and ubuntu share the same repositories or can you not get all the packages if you have kubuntu (excluding gnome packages)
[01:47] <jpatrick> cpk: yes
[01:47] <raphink> ubuntu and kubuntu are the same distro cpk
[01:47] <raphink> same repos, smae packages
[01:47] <raphink> same versions
[01:47] <raphink> same maintainers
[01:48] <jpatrick> same old boxes of pizza
[01:48] <raphink> yes, too
[01:48] <raphink> and bad jokes
[01:49] <karlrhs> nfs was not installed ... I am working on it now..... samba common was installed.
[01:49] <jpatrick> like how did Darth Vader know what Luke was getting for Xmas?
[01:49] <raphink> you'd need samba karlrhs,not only -common
[01:50] <cpk> k thanks
[01:50] <karlrhs> ok I am getting it.
[01:50] <karlrhs> thank so much for your time.
[01:52] <cpk> i dunno jpatrick how did he?
[01:52] <raphink> karlrhs: great :)
[01:52] <raphink> karlrhs: if you think the doc should be improved on this, please complete it on the wiki
[01:53] <jpatrick> cpk: he felt his presents
[01:53] <cpk> i actually laughed
[01:53] <cpk> slightly
[01:53] <jpatrick> cpk: you're supposed to go: "ROFL!!!11"
[01:54] <cpk> oh oops
[01:54] <karlrhs> Yes I will check out the wiki
[01:54] <cpk> ROFL
[01:54] <cpk> LMAO
[01:54] <raphink> thank you karlrhs
[01:54] <jpatrick> ;)
[01:55] <karlrhs> as far as nfs goes it says something about a kernal package?
[01:56] <cpk> I am excited to get my new HD i always have so much fun playing with linux even though I am a noob
[01:56] <karlrhs> I do have nfs common.
[02:00] <an> hi guys.how can i delate the kasbar? i dont like it
[02:00] <karlrhs> ok I have samba now.
[02:01] <an> hello?
[02:02] <an> how can i delate the kasbar? i dont like it
[02:02] <jpatrick> kicker?
[02:02] <an> no ,just kasbar
[02:03] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can I restart alsa?
[02:03] <an> i added it from "add new panel" by accident
[02:03] <an> jpatrick ,do u know that?
[02:04] <raphink> Windows CE-ME-NT - Just Add Water!
[02:04] <raphink> looooooooooooooool
[02:04] <karlrhs> Ok that was my problem no samba installed.... now I need to know of a good kubuntu client?
[02:04] <jpatrick> an: right-click kicker -> remove panel
[02:04] <|lostbyte|> DjDarkman, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[02:04] <raphink> karlrhs: konqueror
[02:04] <raphink> karlrhs: in konqueror, type smb:/
[02:05] <raphink> konqueror is a good client for almost everything
[02:05] <jpatrick> expect tea making
[02:05] <an> jpatrick,no this item
[02:05] <jpatrick> where kteatime wins
[02:06] <an> jpatrick,i got it
[02:06] <an> thanku
[02:06] <an> :)
[02:06] <jpatrick> :D
[02:06] <|lostbyte|> :)
[02:07] <|lostbyte|> DjDarkman, with sudo that is.
[02:08] <tux> ||||||||| Am I the only one who realizes that  http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/   has been hacked?!?
[02:09] <jpatrick> raphink: I like the murder clippy on that page
[02:09] <raphink> tux: are you the only one to use windows games on linux?
[02:09] <raphink> ;)
[02:09] <tux> who
[02:09] <tux> not to
[02:09] <tux> and then useS
[02:09] <tux> not us
[02:10] <tux> use
[02:10] <|lostbyte|> raphink, same here..
[02:11] <|lostbyte|> and the million wine user's out there..
[02:11] <gupta> What to do when you encounter an app that has a newer version than the repos?
[02:12] <gupta> As in where should I make this info known? wiki?
[02:12] <jpatrick> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Ctrl-alt-del.jpg loool
[02:14] <hugelmopf> gupta: why do you want to make this information known?
[02:16] <gupta> So that the repo could be updated
[02:18] <|lostbyte|> gupta, usually done through.. http://revu.tauware.de/
[02:18] <Lynoure> gupta: probably they'll update things for edgy ayway. I don't know how it's done in ubuntu, in debian one would have files a wishlist level bug
[02:18] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can i compile something with gcc3 insted of gcc4?
[02:18] <|lostbyte|> gupta, you make your source package and upload it.
[02:19] <|lostbyte|> but its not good to order for a delay.. as its being done..
[02:19] <|lostbyte|> DjDarkman, huh ! changing the cc variable in a make file.
[02:19] <gupta> |lostbyte|:me ain't ordering, just informing incase they don't know
[02:20] <|lostbyte|> gupta, :P, they know.. but also got to see the other packages they are doing.. People who do packaing have very less time on their hands..
[02:21] <gupta> |lostbyte|: ok, package making it is then!! ;)
[02:21] <|lostbyte|> gupta, You either help as a bug teater or contribute by making the package..
[02:22] <|lostbyte|> gupta, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[02:23] <gupta> :up:
[02:26] <|lostbyte|> AFK..
[02:29] <gupta> Is it possible to upload stuff to non ftp stuff like turboupload from the command line?
[02:29] <gupta> I mean turboupload.com
[02:29] <afm\colossus> with severe kickass scripting skills and curl
[02:29] <afm\colossus> it surely is, yes
[02:30] <gupta> and has anybody has written some kickass stuff?
[02:30] <gupta> coz my 'scripts are all <5 lines
[02:30] <DjDarkman> how can I change the default automake version?
[02:31] <Lynoure> gupta: it's not the lenght, it's how well they work :)
[02:31] <gupta> Lynoure: Thanks
[02:31] <SeanTater> gupta: if you need a web browser at the cli, lynx should help, but if you want it done automatically, clear your week's schedule
[02:33] <Lynoure> gupta: :)
[02:42] <svizzero> anyone knows how to let gnuchess think fast??
[02:46] <BKaj> Howdy
[03:17] <wilfredH> how do I remove pcmcia modules on my desktop?
[03:20] <wilfredH> is it possible to remove the pcmcia stuff?
[03:28] <Cavallo> I want to connect to computer at work throught VPN. How should I do that ? ;/
[03:32] <h3sp4wn> Cavallo: Look into openswan (if its ipsec which most work vpn's are (or should be)
[03:35] <zardoz> do I need to restart the xserver after installing the mp3 suppoert for amarok?
[03:35] <Cavallo> no
[03:35] <zardoz> mmmm
[03:37] <AB3I> ok guys, I have an amazingly dumb question. I removed the home folder button from my task bar by accident. I cant figure out how to get it back. Is it hiding in the menus somewhere so I can just readd it? or do I have to modify the konqueror button somehow?
[03:39] <AB3I> hmmm
[03:39] <AB3I> quiet in here this morning
[03:39] <BKaj> right click on the panel/config panels then hidden, you should be able to restore it from there
[03:39] <AB3I> ah
[03:39] <AB3I> thanks bkaj, lemme try it
[03:40] <BKaj> I think that's the way i fixed mine
[03:40] <AB3I> hmm
[03:40] <AB3I> I think I actually removed the thing
[03:40] <AB3I> do me a favor?
[03:41] <afm\colossus> is there a way to tell the KDE Sound system to play back sounds via `play` (from the sox-package) instead of arts or the like?
[03:41] <AB3I> can you right click on your home button, click configure konqueror button
[03:41] <AB3I> and under the Application tab tell me what it says under Description and Command?
[03:42] <AB3I> I can just modify a konqueror button to do it
[03:46] <AB3I> anyone able to give me the info from the Home button on the taskbar? I need to know the Description, Command, and workpath is
[03:52] <BKaj> AB3I:  do you mean the K-Menu button or the Home folder ?
[03:52] <AB3I> the button on the task bar
[03:53] <AB3I> If I can get that info, I can just turn a regular konqueror web browser button into a home button
[03:55] <Tommy2k4> AB3I, konqueror /home/username
[03:55] <Tommy2k4> is the command
[03:55] <Tommy2k4> no work path, description is whatever you want
[03:55] <AB3I> ah
[03:55] <AB3I> thanks
[03:55] <__osh__> Has something changed in dapper? I can no longer use ctrl-tab to switch desktops. Is this by design or a bug?
[03:56] <AB3I> I've found a few wierd things like that osh
[03:56] <AB3I> like them removing the screen resolution thing under Configure Desktop
[03:56] <AB3I> which is just dumb
[03:57] <cpk> you should be able to assign your own hotkeys to switch desktops...
[03:57] <Tommy2k4> ctrl + F2 etc
[03:59] <Tommy2k4> and you can assign your own
[03:59] <Tommy2k4> kde desktop froze :( anyway to get it back without ctrl alt backspace
[04:00] <AB3I> bah, it that worked Tommy, I have my home button back
[04:04] <Pupeno> Hello.
[04:05] <Pupeno> I have one of these: http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=12 can it be used to buil a Linux-based access point ?
[04:06] <AB3I> Pupeno, I think you'll need an actual router
[04:06] <Pupeno> AB3I: why ?
[04:06] <AB3I> those PCI adapters dont have the built in ability to handle connections to multiple computers
[04:06] <h3sp4wn> They do
[04:07] <AB3I> ? not the ones I've ever dealt with
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> Atheros based - you could run hostapd
[04:07] <zardoz> AB3I: you mean like make a linux router box?
[04:07] <AB3I> ah, software based stuff?
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> Only in the same way all atheros runs however this is nothing to do with openwrt
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> (oops wrong channel)
[04:08] <AB3I> I was thinking native support. Install one of those on a windows box and there's no hope for using it as a router
[04:08] <h3sp4wn> Pupeno: You could do it relatively easily
[04:09] <visik7> I got my CDs
[04:09] <visik7> cool
[04:10] <h3sp4wn> AB3I: I have a card (minipci) using similar chipeset - that my router uses (also running linux)
[04:10] <Pupeno> h3sp4wn: really ? with that particular board ? because then I'll cancel the purchase of the router. I'll build mine (which I want to do anyway to have a half-restricted public node)
[04:10] <AB3I> hmmm, I should do that
[04:10] <AB3I> this box begs to be a router
[04:10] <AB3I> though it would be a waste
[04:12] <h3sp4wn> Pupeno: Only problem is that the version of hostapd in universe is compiled against madwifi-ng whereas the version used by default in kubuntu is madwifi-old (and I have yet to find a way to force the kernel to use madwifi-ng)
[04:15] <Tommy2k4> when will OOo 2.03 be in the repositories
[04:16] <gnomefreak> Tommy2k4: i doubt you will see it in dapper breezy or before versions of ubuntu
[04:16] <Tommy2k4> o
[04:16] <Tommy2k4> saving it for next version?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> Tommy2k4: too late to add it to a stable ubuntu
[04:17] <Tommy2k4> so we'll never be able to get it from apt-get  upgrade?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> Tommy2k4: dont know what version is gonna be in edgy yet too early
[04:17] <gnomefreak> Tommy2k4: thats something that cant be answered atm we have to wait and see where OOo makes it and what version it is first
[04:18] <Tommy2k4> k
[04:21] <nightwatch> how can I configure the "super-key" (window key) in my keyboard?
[04:22] <nightwatch> there's no option in kcontrol
[04:22] <gupta> nightwatch: You can try xbindkeys 7 xbindkeys-config
[04:22] <gupta> 7 == &
[04:22] <gupta> though it crashed for me.
[04:29] <nightwatch> :(
[04:29] <nightwatch> it is not working
[04:29] <nightwatch> no superkey working
[04:30] <gupta> :(
[04:30] <nightwatch> I did xbindkeys --defaults > ~/.xbindkeysrc
[04:31] <nightwatch> but I dont get my superkey working
[04:31] <nightwatch> didnot work
[04:32] <sotired> good morning all
[04:32] <driz> Nintendo DS lite
[04:33] <driz> YAY!!!
[04:33] <driz> I got it
[04:33] <driz> I did not know angelina jolie liked linux
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> driz: Any idea if the DS lite supports WPA ? (or is it still only WEP ?)
[04:33] <sotired> where does wine hide my fake c drive?
[04:34] <driz> I have not tried it online yet
[04:34] <driz> I donht even have a wireless router
[04:34] <driz> dont*
[04:34] <sotired> im using winefile....but ineed to copy a file from my hone folder to my C:\program files directory in wine'
[04:34] <Raven301> How do you change the permission of halt & reboot so you don't have to be super user??
[04:37] <omeow> Amarok can auto-size its collumns, can konqueror do this too?
[04:37] <sotired> wine anyone?
[04:38] <sotired> hey leejun
[04:38] <yanis> I  add a new dns server in kcontrol but it deletes it after some time/or reboot...
[04:40] <bojan> is all Adept Updater do is sudo apt-get updae, followed by sudeo apt-get upgrade?
[04:40] <bojan> sudeo apt-get update*
[04:40] <sotired> su su sudeo?
[04:40] <bojan> that was suppose to be sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:41] <sotired> i knoe ;-p
[04:41] <bojan> sorry im a bad typer
[04:41] <sotired> know* , me too
[04:41] <bojan> heh
[04:42] <sotired> anyone know where wine hides the fake c drive?
[04:43] <raphink> sotired: in .wine
[04:43] <raphink> ;)
[04:43] <Bazzi> in /home/sotired/.wine/drive_c
[04:43] <sotired> does the . denote hidden?
[04:43] <syiron> hello. i have problem with samba. i got some error. it cannot start it. how to solve it ?
[04:45] <Hawkwind> sotired: Yes
[04:45] <sotired> thanks
[04:49] <bojan> from looking at forums, and looking at what it wants to install for me, it looks like Adept Updater does: apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade.  Is this correct?
[04:50] <__osh__> !easyubunut
[04:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about easyubunut
[04:50] <__osh__> !easyubuntu
[04:50] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:50] <__osh__> Hmm, no link... :-/
[04:50] <raphink> bojan: Adept Updater does something of the kind, yes
[04:50] <raphink> it's a mit more complicate
[04:50] <kbrooks> __osh__: easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[04:51] <bojan> i was just wandering can it be accompliched what it does, using command line?
[04:51] <raphink> it actually gets the list of updates to do from apt-get upgrade, cancels the upgrade, and proposed to apt-get install the packages
[04:51] <__osh__> kbrooks: thanks
[04:51] <bojan> techinically, the 3 commands above, should upgarde your complete sysytem
[04:52] <raphink> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:52] <raphink> upgrades your whole system
[04:52] <drbrown> I have just upgraded from breezy to dapper, and now I get apt probs and I have no sound
[04:53] <raphink> are you sure the upgrade is complete drbrown?
[04:53] <bojan> what sound card u have?
[04:53] <driz> yes
[04:53] <driz> france brazil
[04:53] <drbrown> SBLive
[04:53] <bojan> ok
[04:53] <drbrown> Value I believe
[04:54] <bojan> try this
[04:54] <bojan> 1 sec
[04:54] <bojan> ill find the command that helped me
[04:54] <bojan> does everything look OK in the sound settings
[04:54] <drbrown> thx
[04:54] <iain> i cant get adept to work, help anyone
[04:54] <bojan> like ur card is detected and everything, and all the volumes seem OK, but you just dont have any sound?
[04:54] <iain> i cant get adept to work, help anyone
[04:54] <heinrich> how play argentina yesterday?
[04:55] <heinrich> played
[04:55] <driz> they lost
[04:55] <drbrown> exactly
[04:55] <iain> i cant get adept to work, help anyone
[04:55] <heinrich> was it just?
[04:55] <driz> shot out
[04:55] <iain> i can't get adept to work, help anyone
[04:55] <bojan> this is the command that made my sound work: amixer set 'IEC958 Optical Raw' off && amixer set 'Front' on && amixer set 'Wave' 80%,80%,on,on
[04:55] <bojan> I had the same problem and I haev SB Live!
[04:56] <heinrich> i have read in the newspaper they were the better team
[04:56] <heinrich> but i doubt that
[04:56] <iain> i can't get adept to work, help anyone
[04:56] <bojan> im not sure if anything should be changed for ur setup though
[04:56] <driz> !offtopic
[04:56] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:56] <bojan> i dont know what that IEC958 Optical Raw thing is
[04:56] <heinrich> ok sorry
[04:56] <iain> i can't get adept to work, help anyone
[04:56] <driz> anyone who wants to talk soccer go to off topic
[04:57] <BKaj> I don't like the shootouts to break a tie game...that sucks
[04:57] <driz> y ai know
[04:57] <drbrown> the command is not found
[04:57] <iain> can any one help me
[04:57] <bojan> amixer isnt found?
[04:57] <iain> i can't get adept to work, help anyone
[04:57] <Lynoure> driz: what kind of not working you have?
[04:57] <BKaj> iain: is it listed in the k-menu?
[04:57] <iain> yes
[04:58] <driz> Lynoure: what?
[04:58] <drbrown> I have to fix the apt prob first I guess alsa has not been reinstalled yet, sorry I attempted to uninstall and reinstall alsa, but I am having apt probs
[04:58] <Lynoure> driz: oops, wrong person
[04:58] <Stiilyman> help!
[04:58] <drbrown> libperl.so.5.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:58] <bojan> oh yea u should install alsa stuff first i think
[04:58] <bojan> im not sure what the exact package(s) are
[04:59] <Lynoure> iain: Instead of being repetative, tell us how it behaves instead of working right
[04:59] <graft> hey does anyone know why katapult only recognizes some applications? for example i can't get it to recognize filelight...
[04:59] <Stiilyman> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[04:59] <Stiilyman> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[04:59] <Stiilyman> Generating locales...
[04:59] <Stiilyman> can anyone help me plz?
[05:00] <overdrive> algun espaol?
[05:00] <Lynoure> !es
[05:00] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:00] <overdrive> ok gracias
[05:00] <iain> it won't load up
[05:00] <graft> Stiilyman: uh, some context?
[05:00] <drbrown> perl is completly broken because of this error
[05:00] <Lynoure> iain: do you get errors? If so, what?
[05:00] <iain> The APT Database could not be opened
[05:01] <drbrown> rror while loading shared libraries: libperl.so.5.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:01] <graft> drbrown: sudo apt-get install libperl5.8
[05:02] <Lynoure> iain: do you have another adept or apt running?
[05:02] <iain> I try to edit the  sources list but can't save
[05:03] <Lynoure> iain: you need to edit it as root (sudo or ksudo  depending on your editor)
[05:03] <iain> i've tryied that in pico and kate
[05:04] <Lynoure> iain: but simply looking at sources.list should not break your apt/adept
[05:04] <neoncode> How do I check what Xserver I have?
[05:05] <iain> a friend told me to change some of the texted
[05:05] <Lynoure> iain: in some cases doing    sudo debtags update   help adept to be able to read the package database
[05:06] <iain> what does sudo debtags update
[05:06] <Lynoure> iain: If their advice is worth taking, then they should also be willing to help you with related problems :)
[05:06] <iain> mean
[05:06] <Lynoure> iain: see   man debtags   for explanation
[05:06] <iain> true
[05:06] <graft> neoncode: try dpkg -L | grep xserver-xorg
[05:07] <drbrown> ldconfig: Cannot lstat /usr/lib/libexslt.so.0.8.12: Permission denied
[05:07] <drbrown> ldconfig: Cannot lstat /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so.0: Permission denied
[05:07] <drbrown> I get a series of these when trying to install libperl5.8
[05:07] <graft> drbrown: are you using sudo?
[05:07] <Lynoure> iain: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167676 might also have helpfulness for you
[05:08] <drbrown> apt is busted, and I am in a root console sudo sux -
[05:08] <graft> you're logged in as root and you're getting permission denied?
[05:08] <kbrooks> okay, all.
[05:09] <drbrown> I ran dpkg -i /varvar/cache/apt/libperl5.8_5.8.7-10ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[05:09] <kbrooks> we need someone to help us test easyubuntu on kubuntu
[05:09] <graft> drbrown: as root?
[05:09] <drbrown> yes I am logged in as root and getting permission denied
[05:09] <drbrown> yes
[05:09] <drbrown> very odd
[05:09] <graft> erm... hm. who does ldconfig run as?
[05:10] <drbrown> ls -l example ?---------  ? ?    ?           ?                ? /usr/lib/cgi-bin
[05:10] <drbrown> it appears there is no ownership on the files
[05:10] <graft> uh
[05:10] <graft> still
[05:11] <graft> can you chown them to root?
[05:11] <graft> is this on some funny-mounted partition?
[05:11] <drbrown> yes, and I did a chown root.root * /usr/lib/*
[05:12] <drbrown> and I get chown: cannot access `libtcl8.4.so.0': Permission denied
[05:12] <drbrown> no it is not some funny mounted partition
[05:12] <graft> can you delete it?
[05:13] <graft> i guess not
[05:13] <graft> if you have no permissions
[05:13] <graft> bizarre
[05:13] <sensei> chmod -R a+rwx /   ftw
[05:13] <graft> did you try mounting it with a livecd and manipulating it there?
[05:13] <graft> that is a TERRIBLE idea, sensei
[05:14] <kbrooks> does anyone here use easyubuntu on kubuntu and have experienced a measure of problems?
[05:14] <sensei> graft: Just fooling around.. just got here, have no idea what you're talking about
[05:14] <graft> um, drbrown has some file with, apparently, no owner and no permissions
[05:14] <graft> even root can't touch it
[05:15] <drbrown> I think I have a much bigger prog
[05:15] <sensei> So add permissions?
[05:15] <drbrown> I think I have a much bigger prob
[05:15] <drbrown> that's the cgi-bin
[05:15] <drbrown> w/ permisions changed
[05:15] <graft> what's the big deal about cgi-bin?
[05:16] <graft> sensei: how do you suggest he do that? no one can manipulate the file...
[05:16] <sensei> graft: You don't manipulate the file when adding permissions
[05:16] <sensei> sudo chmod +rw file
[05:16] <Lynoure> graft: nothing, unless you want to run cgi scripts for web.
[05:17] <graft> sensei: yeah, but you still have to have permissions to touch the file if you want to chmod it
[05:17] <graft> otherwise that would be the world's easiest root exploit
[05:18] <sensei> graft: Eh
[05:18] <sensei> root can change permissions on any file
[05:18] <sensei> That's the whole idea of being root.. that you can do ber stuff like that
[05:18] <drbrown> chmod +rw does not work
[05:18] <sensei> 'does not work'.. great
[05:19] <drbrown> I need to boot under a live CD and start poking around I believe my system has been compromised
[05:19] <graft> i don't even know HOW you could strip off ownership completely
[05:19] <apol> anybody knows how can I update the kmenu after installing something with adept?
[05:19] <sensei> chmod 0000 or chmod a-rwx
[05:19] <graft> apol: it should be updated automatically
[05:19] <graft> sensei: that's permissions, not ownership
[05:19] <graft> sensei: file has to have a user and group, right?
[05:19] <apol> graft: it is not
[05:20] <sensei> drbrown: How do you mean 'does not work'?
[05:20] <sensei> graft: right
[05:20] <drbrown> chmod 0000 cgi-bin does not work
[05:20] <drbrown> permision denied
[05:20] <sensei> drbrown: You don't want that anyways
[05:20] <graft> apol: what'd you install?
[05:20] <drbrown> all permision denied
[05:20] <sensei> drbrown: You ARE using 'sudo', right?
[05:20] <apol> graft: its firefox
[05:20] <drbrown> chown root.root -R cgi-bin
[05:20] <drbrown> permision denied
[05:21] <sensei> sudo
[05:21] <drbrown> yes
[05:21] <drbrown> I am in a root console
[05:21] <graft> apol doesn't show up under 'internet'?
[05:22] <apol> no
[05:22] <sensei> drbrown: Are you sure? 'whoami'
[05:23] <graft> apol you can always add it yourself with the menu editor...
[05:23] <Lynoure> iain: did your problem get solved?
[05:23] <iain> lynoure:Thank very much it works now
[05:23] <iain> yes
[05:23] <Lynoure> iain: That's nice to hear :)
[05:23] <apol> graft: thx
[05:23] <iain> do you know how to install some games on adept
[05:24] <nico8481> hello
[05:24] <drbrown> root
[05:25] <drbrown> I am root
[05:25] <sensei> drbrown: chmod +rwd cgi-bin
[05:25] <drbrown> invalid mode +rwd
[05:25] <Lynoure> iain: depends on which games. I usually use apt-get myself.   So I'd do    apt-cache search game    and then   apt-cache show  <packagename>   for the more interesting ones,  and finally   apt-get install <packagename>   to get one  :)
[05:26] <sensei> drbrown: erm, chmod +rwx cgi-bin
[05:27] <Lynoure> iain: but actually, if you choose Add programs   from K menu, you get Games icon on the left side. Easier
[05:27] <Abetsic> Hi every body, i have a little question, does the "/" partiton can be on an extended partition or it must be on a primary partition ?
[05:27] <drbrown> permision denied
[05:27] <drbrown> this system has been compromised
[05:27] <drbrown> no doubt
[05:27] <sensei> Abetsic: It can be where ever
[05:28] <drbrown> I am in for a fun day of reloading everything
[05:28] <graft> drbrown: either that or your disk is corrupted
[05:28] <graft> drbrown: run a fsck lately?
[05:28] <iain> i tryied that and i can't get any on the list
[05:28] <drbrown> cgi-bin and this perl stuff w/ permisions changed????? sounds fishy to me
[05:28] <Abetsic> sensei: ok, thanks
[05:29] <drbrown> either way I am going to have to start fresh I will test the HD
[05:29] <drbrown> jik
[05:29] <drbrown> jic
[05:29] <drbrown> no
[05:29] <Lynoure> iain: hmm, then there is possibly something wrong
[05:29] <drbrown> I have not run fsck lately
[05:30] <iain> can you help
[05:32] <Lynoure> iain: maybe, I'm a bit lazy today, though... So, which did you try,  apt-cache show  or  Add/Remove Programs?  and did you get any error messages?
[05:33] <iain> add/remove programs but no error message
[05:34] <Lynoure> iain: and what is in the view? (if anything)
[05:35] <drbrown> I really appreciate all the help
[05:35] <iain> nothing, thats the problem
[05:35] <drbrown> we'll see what knoppix can get
[05:35] <drbrown> exit
[05:36] <Lynoure> iain: then I'd like to see your sources.list , can you put it in pastebin?
[05:36] <Lynoure> !pastebin
[05:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:38] <iain> wheres the paste bin
[05:39] <nico8481> where do you handle the services? (sshd and such)
[05:40] <Lynoure> iain: see above, the message ubotu wrote
[05:40] <iain>  deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[05:40] <iain>  deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[05:40] <iain>
[05:40] <iain>  ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[05:40] <iain>  ## distribution.
[05:40] <iain>  deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[05:40] <iain>  deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[05:41] <Lynoure> iain: that's exactly why pastebin instead of pasting on the channel
[05:41] <iain> i don't know where it is
[05:41] <iain> but carry on helping me please
[05:42] <Lynoure> iain: see above, the message ubotu wrote
[05:42] <Lynoure> iain: or, if it is no longer accessable for you because you flooded yourself off the channel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:44] <iain> i sent it in paste bin
[05:44] <Lynoure> iain: that is the url you got for that?
[05:45] <iain> what do you mean
[05:46] <Lynoure> iain: Where in the pastebin is it, exactly?
[05:47] <iain> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16943
[05:50] <Lynoure> iain: I found it. But next time you post something there, please don't claim to be Lynoure :)
[05:51] <iain> i didn't know sorry
[05:51] <BKaj> Is there a Utlity like Yareg , except that it can  read and extract files from ext3, in windows?
[05:52] <Lynoure> iain: your sources.list looks pretty fine.   If you do   sudo apt-get update   on console,  and then look at the Add/Remove Programs, do you get a list?
[05:52] <knubbe> anyone who has trouble with firefox crashing all the time? especially when watching movies (inside firefox) and sometimes on flash-sites?
[05:54] <Lynoure> iain: basicly the only thing that was slightly off in the sources list were some leading spaces in the beginning of some lines, but those should not make a difference
[05:55] <Trackilizer> I set the default MP3 player to XMMS, but everytime i click on a MP3 file it is opend by amarok.
[05:55] <Trackilizer> How do i change this?
[05:57] <nico8481> is there a GUI tool to manage the system services ?
[05:57] <nico8481> kcontrol
[05:57] <nico8481> oops
[05:57] <nico8481> wrong window
[05:57] <Lynoure> :)
[05:58] <Lynoure> happens to the best of them, occasionally
[05:59] <iain> thanks it works
[05:59] <BKaj> Linux ReiserFS partitions can be read by Yareg , is there an equivalent read utility for ext3 partitions ?
[05:59] <bina> nico8681: i think theres a program called bum that changes what services run at different different levels
[05:59] <iain> Lynoure: thanks it works
[06:00] <bina> nico8481: sorry that message was for you ^
[06:00] <nico8481> bina: thanks... i found something in kcontrol... gonna check if it can start what i need...
[06:01] <Lynoure> iain: :)
[06:01] <bina> nico8481: cool
[06:03] <driz> @t
[06:03] <|lostbyte|> nico8481, kde_components > service manager :)
[06:03] <nico8481> thx :)
[06:05] <nico8481> don't think it's there however... there's no sshd there... but i found it elsewhere in kcontrol
[06:05] <imbrandon_> anyone here on ppc dual booting with osx ?
[06:05] <apol> imbrandon_: i do, on a macmini
[06:05] <h3sp4wn> nico8481: sysv-rc-conf is the easiest thing to use for setting up services imo
[06:05] <|lostbyte|> nico8481, system services :)
[06:06] <imbrandon_> apol: can you pastbin your yaboot.conf ? i cant get my osx to boot for somereason
[06:06] <imbrandon_> it wasent added to my yaboot.conf bedefault and i think i added it wrong
[06:06] <apol> imbrandon_: I'm sorry, I haven't got it here
[06:06] <imbrandon_> s/bedefault/by default
[06:07] <imbrandon_> ahh ok apol ;) thanks
[06:07] <nico8481> hmm it doesn't seem to manage to start the nfs-kernel-server daemon... says it can't start rpc mountd... any idea?
[06:15] <jvz> is it possible to change the Actions sub-menu in Konqueror to just display on the main context menu?
[06:18] <driz> Portugal=0 England=0
[06:22] <wrede> kmail forgets my pop3 password despite me having ticked the box to remember it. I need to enter it anew each time I start kmail. Very annoying!
[06:24] <driz> but safe
[06:32] <kokas> hi there i'm using kubuntu with a pcmcia belkin wireless . how do i put this thing working?
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> kokas: What is the full model number ?
[06:36] <kokas2> h3sp4wn : f5dd7010
[06:37] <h3sp4wn> !bcm43xx
[06:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:37] <h3sp4wn> You need to install the broadcom firmware I think
[06:38] <kokas2> tks
[06:55] <visik7> packages of kopete 0.12 for kubuntu exists ?
[06:56] <Blissex> visik7: that is a deeply philosophical question... Does 'visik7' exist? :-)
[06:56] <h3sp4wn> The do exist but they are for 3.5.3 - And I can't remember where
[06:56] <visik7> is there a package of kopete 0.12.0 for kubuntu ?
[06:57] <visik7> h3sp4wn: yes infact
[06:57] <visik7> I have 3.5.2
[06:57] <visik7> and don't want to upgrade
[06:57] <h3sp4wn> Build it yourself then
[06:57] <visik7> how ?
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> However you like
[06:58] <visik7> ...
[06:58] <kiba> i need help!
[06:58] <kiba> :$
[06:58] <kiba> how to play mp3, mov, wmv, divx etc... on my dapper drake???
[06:59] <h3sp4wn> visik: find the 3.5.3 packages - add the deb-src line from there apt-get source - then debuild -uc -us
[06:59] <kiba> :$:$:$
[06:59] <bowler_iain> Can anyone tell me how to install skype
[06:59] <h3sp4wn> visik: There were in riddell's home directory on kubuntu.org (but I can't remember the exact link)
[07:00] <bowler_iain> Can anyone tell me how to install skype
[07:01] <h3sp4wn> easyubuntu is probably the easiest way
[07:01] <bowler_iain> help!
[07:01] <driz> ask your question stop saying HELP!!!
[07:01] <bowler_iain> Can anyone tell me how to install skype
[07:02] <kiba>  how to play mp3, mov, wmv, divx etc... on my dapper drake???
[07:02] <kiba>  how to play mp3, mov, wmv, divx etc... on my dapper drake???
[07:03] <bowler_iain> kiba: try kaffine?
[07:03] <kiba> no
[07:03] <kiba> with kaffeine i cant see .mov
[07:03] <h3sp4wn> bowler_iain: skype is not free software hence not supported by {k}ubuntu - easyubuntu does support the installation of it however - Penguin liberation front has it however
[07:04] <GullyFoyle> ,restricted
[07:04] <kowal> kiba: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
[07:04] <GullyFoyle> !restricted
[07:04] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:04] <bowler_iain> it is cos you can download it from there website
[07:06] <h3sp4wn> bowler_iain: start konsole and run wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/skype/skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[07:07] <h3sp4wn> 'wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/skype/skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb'
[07:07] <h3sp4wn> 'sudo dpkg -i skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb' do it as 2 lines if you want the parts only inside ''
[07:08] <DocTomoe> Hi ... I had to reinstall kubuntu because my /-partition was physically broken (in the truest sense of that word) ... somehow, the packages for build-essentials does no longer seem to exist, just as the linux kernel headers ... any idea on this?
[07:10] <bowler_iain> that does not work
[07:14] <Lynoure> bowler_iain: When something people recommend does not work, it makes things smoother if you tell them how. But you can also get easyubuntu and get it to install skype for you
[07:14] <Lynoure> !tell bowler_iain about easyubuntu
[07:15] <bowler_iain> how does that work
[07:17] <Lynoure> !easyubuntu
[07:17] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:18] <Lynoure> bowler_iain: if you google for it, you'll find the answer prolly behind the first hit
[07:18] <bowler_iain> thanks
[07:24] <h3sp4wn> bowler_iain: I just tested what I told you to do and it worked perfectly what errors did you get
[07:25] <bowler_iain> i just double click on the .deb (i'm very new to linux!!)
[07:26] <h3sp4wn> you have to install it with sudo dpkg -i (I don't know about clicking the deb)
[07:27] <Chryseus> !mp3
[07:27] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:42] <bowler_iain> thanks
[08:01] <crooger> hi all
[08:02] <crooger> anyone knowns how to install kadu on kubuntu ?
[08:03] <sotired> apt-get install kadu
[08:03] <sotired> maybe
[08:03] <sotired> i dont even know what kadu is
[08:03] <sotired> hi gatekepper
[08:03] <gatekeeper> hi sotired :-)
[08:04] <|lostbyte|> crooger, sudo sh -c "echo 'deb http://www.kadu.net/download/binary/ubuntu/repo dapper main' >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:04] <|lostbyte|> type that in terminal..
[08:04] <|lostbyte|> when done.. do... sudo apt-get update
[08:04] <|lostbyte|> then do what sotired said.
[08:05] <|lostbyte|> sotired, its an instant messenger..
[08:05] <sotired> oh.. i see
[08:05] <|lostbyte|> that supports gadu-gadu protocol.
[08:05] <sotired> seems to be an abundance of them
[08:05] <swaj_> hmm
[08:06] <swaj_> how do you get Konversation to not color everyone's nicknames?
[08:06] <swaj_> feels like a rainbow party
[08:06] <|lostbyte|> swaj_, Is there some where in its settings.. search
[08:07] <crooger> Czytanie list pakietw... Gotowe
[08:07] <crooger> W: GPG error: http://www.kadu.net dapper Release: Nastpujce sygnatury nie mogy zosta zweryfikowane z powodu braku klucza publicznego: NO_PUBKEY 5EC42C53D86A66BA
[08:07] <crooger> W: Naley uruchomi apt-get update aby naprawi te problemy.
[08:07] <Blissex> swaj_: #Konversation, but just do as <|lostbyte|> says
[08:07] <crooger> lostbyte: polish ?
[08:07] <sotired> uhhh...sure
[08:07] <Blissex> swaj_: BTW, that coloring is really important to follow what people say.
[08:07] <sotired> i undertood 'problemy"
[08:07] <crooger> no czesc
[08:07] <swaj_> Blissex: nah, I find it annoying
[08:07] <|lostbyte|> crooger, english pls..
[08:07] <crooger> okey
[08:08] <Blissex> swaj_: perhaps you want to change colors to some less garish ones...
[08:08] <orient2000> what is kadu?
[08:08] <crooger> i pasted messages what i have after "sudo apt-get update"
[08:09] <crooger> polish gadu-gadu client
[08:09] <|lostbyte|> orient2000, its an IM that supports the gadu agadu prottocal .. very populat in poland.
[08:09] <|lostbyte|> crooger, ok ! i'll want you to see the source.list
[08:10] <|lostbyte|> crooger, have you done this before ?
[08:11] <|lostbyte|> crooger, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:11] <crooger> so.. what are we looking for
[08:11] <|lostbyte|> crooger, you have to see [08:11] <|lostbyte|> at the bottom..
[08:11] <|lostbyte|> correct it if its wronge.
[08:12] <orient2000> Oh, I see but I do not like speak Polish :P
[08:12] <|lostbyte|> alright ! if its the same.. save and close..
[08:13] <swaj_> I can't decide.... Kubuntu or Ubuntu... I like Gnome, but this new KDE is sexy too ><
[08:13] <crooger> yeah
[08:13] <crooger> |lostbyte|: the same
[08:14] <|lostbyte|> crooger, now type the following commands one after the other...
[08:14] <|lostbyte|> wget http://poczta.prezu.one.pl/miastoplusa_sms/gpg.txt
[08:14] <|lostbyte|> sudo apt-key add gpg.txt
[08:14] <|lostbyte|> crooger, tell me when done.
[08:15] <crooger> |lostbyte|: "gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found" ... done :D
[08:16] <|lostbyte|> ok ! this one..
[08:16] <|lostbyte|> wget http://poczta.prezu.one.pl/miastoplusa_sms/gpg
[08:17] <crooger> done
[08:17] <|lostbyte|> also second command.
[08:18] <crooger> what command ?
[08:18] <|lostbyte|>  sudo apt-key add gpg.txt
[08:18] <|lostbyte|>  sudo apt-key add gpg
[08:18] <|lostbyte|> this one ^
[08:19] <roadrunner> Hey guys, I have a small process problem... it won't let me run Adept because it says something else is using the packaging database... would someone mind PMing me and helping me out please?
[08:19] <crooger> |lostbyte|: ok :-)
[08:19] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, sudo killall adept
[08:19] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, sudo killall apt-get
[08:19] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, then try..
[08:19] <roadrunner> well, I did the sudo kpm
[08:20] <roadrunner> and then from the graphical task manager, I killed all Adept processes
[08:20] <roadrunner> but I will try it your way once and see what happens
[08:20] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, dpkg --configure -a
[08:20] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, and now try.
[08:20] <crooger> |lostbyte|: thats it ?
[08:20] <|lostbyte|> crooger, do the update now..
[08:20] <|lostbyte|> crooger, sudo apt-get update
[08:20] <crooger> oh... i'm so stupid :P
[08:21] <roadrunner> |lostbyte|: when I did what you said, and did the sudo kill all commands, it just says "no process killed"
[08:21] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, thats good.. means no process is running..
[08:22] <crooger> done
[08:22] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, now try adept
[08:22] <roadrunner> wait a minute
[08:22] <roadrunner> I just now saw your other thing... dpkg command... what does that do/
[08:22] <crooger> where i can find it ?
[08:22] <|lostbyte|> crooger, now...  ------> sudo apt-get install kadu
[08:22] <|lostbyte|> crooger, that will install the program..
[08:23] <crooger> nice
[08:23] <crooger> thanks
[08:23] <DjDarkman19> hy I compiled a game ,and I want to make a *.deb package so that my friends won`t have to compile it ,how do I package it?
[08:23] <|lostbyte|> crooger, After which you will find it in kmenu..
[08:23] <roadrunner> hm... |lostbyte| that worked fine... adept opened right up
[08:23] <|lostbyte|> DjDarkman19, Read the packaging guide.
[08:23] <crooger> also do you know how to change default language of KDE to polish ?
[08:23] <roadrunner> but if it didn't kill any processes why did it not open before?
[08:24] <crooger> in config i have only english
[08:24] <roadrunner> if the processes were already killed, I don't see why it wouldn't open for me. The only thing I can think of was that dpkg command, but what did that do?
[08:24] <crooger> it's not problem but
[08:24] <crazy_penguin> |lostbyte|: hi!
[08:24] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, Cool ! so remmber, everytime you db locks up.. run that command. it will reconfigure your db, removing all locak files..
[08:24] <crazy_penguin> h3sp4wn: ping
[08:24] <|lostbyte|> craffop, hi there..
[08:26] <DjDarkman19> |lostbyte|: where is the packageing guide?
[08:27] <|lostbyte|> crooger, sudo apt-get install language-pack-pl
[08:28] <jmichaelx> has anyone in here ever gotten  a USB wireless adaptor to work with kubuntu?
[08:28] <|lostbyte|> DjDarkman19, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[08:28] <|lostbyte|> jmichaelx, i got my ovis link to work will ndiswrapper.
[08:28] <kronoz> jmichaelx: yes
[08:28] <kronoz> jmichaelx: tell us which model/version/specifics
[08:28] <|lostbyte|> crazy_penguin, hi there.
[08:28] <|lostbyte|> :)
[08:28] <jmichaelx> how about a linksys?
[08:29] <kronoz> a linksys what
[08:29] <|lostbyte|> crooger, after installing that go to the same place you saw english..
[08:29] <jmichaelx> i have two... both a wusb54gs and wusb54g v.4
[08:30] <|lostbyte|> jmichaelx, Do you have windows drivers for it ?
[08:30] <|lostbyte|> jmichaelx, before that do a search on google.com linux compatibility..
[08:30] <BoSJo> Hi all: This is driving me mad, almost every web page i visit fail to load the 1-2 last images, both Firefox and Knoqueror, any one got an idea what could be wrong?
[08:30] <roadrunner> oh, hey, |lostbyte| it still doesn't work... I have killed all processes that pertain to adept, but when I try to open the package manager it says it is loading, then it just dissapeard
[08:31] <jmichaelx> |lostbyte|: i have the CDs  that came with them, but that is it at the moment
[08:31] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, huh ? run it in konsole. so we can see the debug info..
[08:31] <kronoz> jmichaelx:
[08:31] <kronoz> http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Installing_Linksys_WUSB54G_t32624.html
[08:32] <jmichaelx> kronoz: ?
[08:32] <jmichaelx> ahhh thank you
[08:32] <|lostbyte|> jmichaelx, lucky you :P
[08:32] <roadrunner> |lostbyte|: weird... when I typed adept open in the console, adept opened and ran fine... but when I try to open it from the GUI it doesn't work
[08:33] <jmichaelx> |lostbyte|: just because it is on that list does not mean it will work for me lol
[08:34] <gatekeeper> roadrunner: try kdesu adept start it up and kill it a couple of times see what happens
[08:34] <|lostbyte|> jmichaelx, that forum has a happy ending.. :P
[08:34] <crooger> |lostbyte|: last little question: how to install Polish lang. on KDE in Kubuntu ?
[08:34] <themouse> hi, everyone, i have a problem compiling freetype with BCI enabled, i get
[08:34] <themouse> /bin/bash: dh_testdir: command not found
[08:34] <themouse> make: *** [clean]  Error 127
[08:34] <|lostbyte|> crooger, i just told you.. ^^^^^
[08:35] <themouse> can some one help me?
[08:35] <roadrunner> well, it was doing this to me last night too... it sucks, rebooting everything doesn't help either... it's a problem that won't go away >_<
[08:35] <roadrunner> oh, and I just installed kubuntu 2 days ago, it shouldnt be too screwed up
[08:35] <|lostbyte|> themouse, tell me about BCI.. :) does it really make microsoft fonts smooth ?
[08:36] <crooger> ohh sorry
[08:36] <crooger> i'm quite lost
[08:36] <crooger> :-)
[08:36] <crooger> my first linux :-)
[08:36] <themouse> that's what they say
[08:36] <themouse> :D
[08:36] <themouse> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84359.html
[08:36] <|lostbyte|> crooger, sudo apt-get install language-pack-pl
[08:36] <themouse> here's the HOWTO
[08:36] <orient2000> I am downloading easyubuntu. There is also PLF list. What is PLF list?
[08:37] <roadrunner> hey, lostbyte, now I have a weird problem... when I get to Adept, and I click "Inspect changes" it shows me a list of all the things I sleected to install
[08:37] <roadrunner> it also shows me a bunch of programs that are installed, but it says they are "Broken" and should be removed. Then there are bunch of other normal programs it says it wants to remove
[08:37] <roadrunner> when I click changes are okay, proceed, it gives me the following error
[08:37] <roadrunner> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[08:38] <admin_> hello
[08:38] <admin_> yo
[08:39] <zorglu1> roadrunner: try running adaptic (dunno the name) it will provide you a line to type
[08:39] <zorglu1> wow this is real helpfull :)
[08:40] <roadrunner> it says command not found
[08:40] <zorglu1> dpkg --configure -a
[08:40] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, done one thing..
[08:40] <|lostbyte|> purge it and then reinstall..
[08:40] <zorglu1> roadrunner: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in a terminal
[08:40] <|lostbyte|> zorglu1, told him that already..
[08:40] <roadrunner> zorglu1: I did that, but what did iit do?
[08:40] <zorglu1> ok didnt follow :)
[08:41] <|lostbyte|> zorglu1, still the problem persists.. after the next exit..
[08:41] <zorglu1> roadrunner: listen to lostbyte
[08:41] <roadrunner> zorglu1: I dont understand what that command did though, lol
[08:41] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, here.. do this..
[08:41] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, sudo apt-get --purge remove adept
[08:42] <themouse> |lostbyte|, anything for me?
[08:42] <roadrunner> crap
[08:42] <roadrunner> wait... I have another un related question first
[08:43] <roadrunner> it keeps telling me I am un registered in IRC and can't PM, even though I already registered. How do I reindentify myself with my registered account?
[08:43] <roadrunner> I can't remember what to do
[08:43] <kbrooks> orient2000: the PLF repoitory i a repoitory with many packages
[08:43] <kbrooks> roadrunner: /msg nickerv identify pass
[08:43] <crooger> is there anything what you, |lostbyte| don't know ? :-)
[08:43] <crooger> really big thx
[08:44] <kbrooks> orient2000: the packages in plf are nonfree (not free as in speech)
[08:44] <themouse> roadrunner and then /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[08:44] <roadrunner_> ok... do you have to re identify everytime? Because it keeps telling me that >_<
[08:44] <roadrunner_> everytime I log in I have to re-identify
[08:45] <|lostbyte|> themouse, you need debhelper
[08:45] <|lostbyte|> apt-get install debhelper
[08:45] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, xchat ?
[08:46] <crooger> \server irc.php.pl
[08:46] <themouse> |lostbyte| 10x
[08:46] <themouse> I'll try it
[08:47] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|: what?
[08:47] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|: I did what you said, I pm'ed you with the output...
[08:47] <roadrunner_> Reading package lists... Done
[08:47] <roadrunner_> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:47] <roadrunner_> E: The package sun-java5-bin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[08:47] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, which command ?
[08:47] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|: there, just in case you didn't see it, that is what it said when I did your command.
[08:47] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: um, uh
[08:47] <roadrunner_>  sudo apt-get --purge remove adept
[08:47] <themouse> |lostbyte|, there's another error: "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"
[08:48] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: did you change your sources.list (even if thru adept)
[08:48] <zorglu1> !essential build
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about essential build
[08:48] <kbrooks> zorglu1: !build-essential
[08:48] <kbrooks> !build-essential
[08:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[08:48] <|lostbyte|> themouse, you need that ^
[08:48] <larson9999> this linux thing rocks! i think i'll keep it
[08:49] <zorglu1> kbrooks: wasnt that far :)
[08:49] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, good choise !
[08:49] <kbrooks> zorglu1, |lostbyte|: ue !factoid > user
[08:49] <roadrunner_> kbrooks: I don't know how to do that... how would I change the sources.list?
[08:49] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: well, adept changes it for you
[08:50] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: i don't know if i trust the judgement of someone with a pipe in his name.
[08:50] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: did you disable multiverse recently?
[08:50] <roadrunner_> -_-
[08:50] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: made the choice in 97 actually :)
[08:50] <roadrunner_> Im a linux noob, sorry
[08:50] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, this is the list --> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:50] <roadrunner_> Im an A+ windows man... so I don't know what you mean
[08:50] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: um. did you JUST install kubuntu
[08:50] <roadrunner_> the only thing I did with "multiverse" was added it to one server in adept to allow me to download new packages
[08:50] <roadrunner_> and yes, I did, just 2 days ago
[08:50] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: it seems like you added multivere already
[08:51] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, wow ! and now you found out it rocks.. to late..:P
[08:51] <roadrunner_> I guess I did... another guy walked me through adding a repository so I could download more packages
[08:51] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: okay. so did you disable it recently? sun java is in there
[08:51] <roadrunner_> I added "multiverse" to the one server name, but that's it... just so I could download packages
[08:51] <roadrunner_> is sun java in where? In my package list?
[08:51] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: in multiverse.
[08:52] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: actually i found out it rocks in '99 when i was finally able to get a joystick and printer working properly :)
[08:52] <roadrunner_> how do you get to multiverse? I don't even know what multiverse is...
[08:52] <roadrunner_> Im a noob sorry
[08:52] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: well, obviously no one explained it to you
[08:52] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: no, i dont want to pm you
[08:52] <roadrunner_> ok, then never mind...
[08:53] <roadrunner_> but no, I have no idea what multiverse is
[08:53] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, :) took you 3 years to get your joy and printer working :P
[08:53] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: to get them working correctly?  that it did
[08:54] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: multiverse contain packages that are not free software, that is software that you dont have the permission to edit and redistribute and copy
[08:54] <roadrunner_> oh
[08:54] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, for me it was just plug in and there js0 wsa created..
[08:54] <roadrunner_> do you have to pay for them? Or are they still free, just not open source?
[08:54] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, what distro did you start with ?
[08:54] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: well two really.
[08:54] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: universe contains packages that MAY or may not be free software
[08:55] <roadrunner_> ok, well, what was I looking for?
[08:55] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: vmware (er, the workstation version) is not inclluded in ubuntu anywhere
[08:55] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: suse and mandrake off and on trying to get those two things installed.  i couldn't find ANYONE who used a js through the soundcard gameport.  finally i found a site that explained it clearly
[08:55] <roadrunner_> sun-java5-bin?
[08:55] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: so most in multiverse are free
[08:55] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: exactly
[08:55] <roadrunner_> is that what you said to look for?
[08:56] <roadrunner_> ok, well, it is installed
[08:56] <h3sp4wn> roadrunner: qemu with kqemu is almost as quick as vmware workstation
[08:56] <roadrunner_> I opened adept manager and it says sun-java5-bin is installed
[08:56] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: and the printer worked but had a pixellating problem that it took a bit for me to track down
[08:56] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, that i can understand..
[08:57] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: show the error again?
[08:57] <roadrunner_> so now what should I do?
[08:57] <roadrunner_> ok, just a sec
[08:58] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: i think part of the problem too was that lots of the people i had helping me were using old, stable kernels and i was using the new one and things were in the middle of big changes back then.  like even now some of those guys probably don't use modprobe
[08:59] <roadrunner_> ok, when I open the adept installed and go to install something, I click inspect changes. Then, the windows that shows your changes it filled with a bunch of packages that say "BROKE (Installed)" And then just some other "Installed" programs that it wants to remove
[08:59] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: things are so easy now :)
[08:59] <roadrunner_> and then of course the package that I selected to installed are there too... so I hit changes are okay, proceed. Cuz I don't know what broken packages are, but it suggested removing them, so I figured I would do whatever it says
[09:00] <roadrunner_> th when I hit process, I get this error: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[09:00] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, you can say that again..
[09:00] <|lostbyte|> Linux Rocks :P
[09:01] <kbrooks> hah
[09:02] <|lostbyte|> actually its the community + packaging system + linux that makes it rock
[09:02] <|lostbyte|> and ubuntu has it all..
[09:02] <afm\colossus> it's GNU that makes Linux rock, really
[09:02] <afm\colossus> and the philosophy behind Free Software
[09:03] <roadrunner_> so... what should I do
[09:03] <roadrunner_> why does it keep giving me that error, and why are there all of these "broken" links
[09:03] <roadrunner_> do... "broken" packages I mean
[09:04] <roadrunner_> gah... I can't type today... but anyways, do you know why I would be having that problem?
[09:05] <|lostbyte|> afm\colossus, Arg ! how could i forget the lovely gnu project..
[09:06] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|: you still available? You were heklping me earlier...
[09:06] <deuce868> anyone suggest a good chm viewer for kde I can use? Looking at getting the php docs downloaded and want to be able to pull it up.
[09:06] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|: but now I cant download or install any new packages because it keeps giving me an error...
[09:06] <dna_> will there be any 2.6.x kernel upgrades to dapper?
[09:06] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, do you get the same error ?
[09:06] <roadrunner_> do you unerstand my problem so far?
[09:06] <afm\colossus> dna_: no, i don't think so
[09:06] <|lostbyte|> dna_, not at the moment..
[09:06] <afm\colossus> this would totally break policies
[09:07] <|lostbyte|> yes, there will obiously, time will tell..
[09:07] <roadrunner_> Whenever I click to get the updates, it shows everything I slected to install, and a bunch of broken packages. I have no idea how I got a bunch of broken packages.
[09:07] <roadrunner_> but then when I click to send the packages, it says it cant and gives me the following error
[09:08] <dna_> oki
[09:08] <roadrunner_> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[09:08] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, so adept is still there ?
[09:08] <gatekeeper> roadrunner_: broken usually means some of the 'library' files that are needed to run the program, ie files that it is dependant on are not there, not sure if that is true in your case or whether something is more fundermentally broken
[09:08] <roadrunner_> yeah, I can open adept and stuff
[09:08] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, i'll pass u my source.list just replace yours..
[09:08] <roadrunner_> and yeah, I figured that was what broken meant... and it says it is going to uninstall them, but whenever I do that is just gives me that error
[09:09] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, Before, we do that just try one last thing..
[09:09] <|lostbyte|> do..
[09:09] <nalioth> !multimedia > cute_bettong
[09:09] <|lostbyte|> sudo apt-get -f install
[09:10] <dna_> is there some development repository where I can find kernel upgrades? A kubuntu -current?
[09:10] <|lostbyte|> and try again..
[09:10] <ozmodiar> I have some troubles with my X, on kubuntu dapper. I must login trough recovery mode and then manualy start x (startx), otherwise a nvidia logo show up on the monitor and nothing more happends. Please help me...
[09:10] <|lostbyte|> dna_, if there will be one, it will come in main.
[09:10] <roadrunner_> E: The package sun-java5-bin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:10] <roadrunner_> I get that error whenever I do that command
[09:10] <gatekeeper> dna_: do you want to compile your own kernel?
[09:10] <|lostbyte|> "sudo apt-get -f install"          ...only
[09:11] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, ^
[09:11] <roadrunner_> the problem is, I cant uninstall or reinstall java, because the stupid package manager wont let me do anything
[09:11] <|lostbyte|> ozmodiar, are you in home dir ?
[09:11] <roadrunner_> Reading package lists... Done
[09:11] <roadrunner_> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:11] <roadrunner_> E: The package sun-java5-bin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:11] <roadrunner_> that is the error I receive when I run that command
[09:11] <BrigadierFrog> how would I make sure that some binary takes precedence over another with the PATH env var
[09:11] <BrigadierFrog> like say I have two versions of qmake
[09:12] <BrigadierFrog> one in /usr/local/bin and one in /usr/bin
[09:12] <BrigadierFrog> how would I make sure the /usr/local/bin has precedence
[09:12] <ozmodiar> |lostbyte|: Eh?
[09:12] <james_xxx> if someone has the time, i would appreciate being walked through setting up ndiswrapper to work with a linksys wireless usb adapter... this insructions are at: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#L and the adapter is WUSB54GS v.2
[09:12] <|lostbyte|> BrigadierFrog, huh ! the way its displayed in $PATH i woould guess.
[09:12] <BrigadierFrog> its not though
[09:13] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, ubuntu.com > wiki > search "nidiwrapper" has a guide.
[09:13] <dna_> gatekeeper: I need support for atheros 5005 chipset and I don't want to compile my own kernel because, 1. not sure how to do it with grub and kubuntu and 2, I will now get critical updates to my kernel then so from the moment I compile my own kernel I will always have to compile my own kernels :(
[09:13] <|lostbyte|> "ndiswrapper"*
[09:13] <BrigadierFrog>  /usr/local/bin is before /usr/bin
[09:13] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: my question trouble is somewhat specific to this adapter
[09:13] <BrigadierFrog> which qmake says /usr/bin/qmake
[09:13] <|lostbyte|> BrigadierFrog, so there you go, am not sure by the way.. just a thought.
[09:13] <gatekeeper> dna_: ok :-)
[09:14] <dna_> gatekeeper: but it is tempting :-)
[09:14] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|: what should I do now
[09:15] <gatekeeper> dna_: I have never tried it but there is a nice HowTo in the ubuntu forums that walks you through the process
[09:15] <crimsun> roadrunner_: do you have all the repos enabled?
[09:15] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, hold on..
[09:16] <dna_> oki, I can compile kernels on slackware and lilo so kubuntu with grub can't be so much diffrent anyway
[09:16] <roadrunner_> crimsun: all of them? I don't know. Some guy walked me through opening up one repository, that way I could get more packages
[09:16] <roadrunner_> but I can't get any packages right now... I get an error
[09:16] <crimsun> roadrunner_: apt-cache policy sun-java5-bin
[09:16] <gatekeeper> dna_: here is a buch or repos don't know if any of them will help http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:16] <roadrunner_> and when I do the "Inspect changes" it finds alot of broken packages
[09:17] <dna_> gatekeeper: I have looked at that page already :)
[09:17] <dna_> enabled universe
[09:17] <dna_> btw, what is multiverse?
[09:17] <crimsun> !components
[09:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:17] <crimsun> dna_: read that.
[09:18] <roadrunner_> crimsun: I just did what you said... it just showed me my java version and stuff
[09:18] <dna_> oki, thanks
[09:18] <crimsun> roadrunner_: I need the output pastebinned
[09:18] <ncaller> I am running dapper mp3's work fine in most applications (yes I have installed support following the wiki), however when I try to create an audio CD in K3B and drag an mp3 file into the project I get "Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:" any ideas?
[09:18] <roadrunner_> paste binned?
[09:18] <roadrunner_> I don't know what that means
[09:18] <dna_> ah, "not free" software
[09:19] <|lostbyte|> dna_, The "multiverse" component contains software that is "not free"
[09:19] <crimsun> !paste
[09:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:19] <crimsun> roadrunner_: read that.
[09:19] <roadrunner_> !paste
[09:20] <roadrunner_> ...
[09:20] <roadrunner_> what do I put under name?
[09:20] <roadrunner_> my name? Or your name?
[09:20] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, your name..
[09:21] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, just replace mine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16951 with yours and update..
[09:21] <roadrunner_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16952
[09:21] <roadrunner_> lol.. I made one
[09:24] <roadrunner_> so now what?
[09:24] <james_xxx> does anyone know what BCMRNDIS.INF is, and where one can get it?
[09:25] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, its a driver file for windows.
[09:26] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: i thought so, the instructions i am looking at refer to it, i have googled it, but i still cannot figure out where to find it
[09:26] <roadrunner_> crimsun: did you get my paste bin?
[09:26] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, See if its not in the driver cd you already have..
[09:26] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: not that i can tell
[09:27] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|:  I appear to have been ditched... would you be able to help me go throught his again?
[09:27] <crimsun> roadrunner_: looking now.
[09:27] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|: I just need someone to spend like, 10 minutes with me without leaving, lol
[09:27] <roadrunner_> crimsun: ah... my bad =D I thought you left
[09:27] <james_xxx> i can wait for roadrunner to be helped lol
[09:28] <roadrunner_> well, I just keep switching between two people
[09:28] <roadrunner_> lol... I need to just pick one and stick with them
[09:28] <roadrunner_> so it's partially my fault =D
[09:29] <crimsun> roadrunner_: there're no lines like the following?
[09:29] <crimsun>      1.5.0-06-1 0
[09:29] <crimsun>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages
[09:29] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, FOUND !
[09:29] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, http://www.belkin.com/support/download/downloaddetails.asp?download=1871&lang=1
[09:29] <roadrunner_> Installed: 1.5.0-06-1
[09:29] <roadrunner_>   Candidate: 1.5.0-06-1
[09:29] <roadrunner_>   Version table:
[09:29] <roadrunner_>  *** 1.5.0-06-1 0
[09:29] <roadrunner_>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[09:30] <roadrunner_> that is all it said, right there... no more, no less
[09:30] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: thank you so much... i'll check that out right now
[09:30] <crimsun> roadrunner_: then your active sources.list is missing multiverse completely.
[09:30] <roadrunner_> lol
[09:30] <crimsun> roadrunner_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:30] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, You got to extract that.. try wine or something..
[09:30] <roadrunner_> how do I open that? What should I open it with?
[09:30] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: ok i have downloaded that...
[09:31] <roadrunner_> Like I said, complete noob with Kubuntu, so what is the name of a text editor it uses?
[09:31] <crimsun> roadrunner_: kate, cat, more, whatever.
[09:31] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: ok, i was wondering how to do that in linux
[09:31] <roadrunner_> kate, that's right, thanks
[09:31] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, huh ! Use wine..
[09:32] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: sorry for my noobishness, i have learned a lot the last few months, but have a long ways to go... i have never used wine
[09:32] <roadrunner_> crimsun: I know I am an idiot... but what do I type to open it in Kate from the command prompt?
[09:33] <roadrunner_> do I just type kate filename?
[09:33] <crimsun> roadrunner_: just ``cat /etc/apt/sources.list''
[09:33] <crimsun> you don't need to open it
[09:33] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, Then try to install that file in windows.. and search for that inf file..
[09:33] <roadrunner_> I thought I needed to open it to copy/paste the contents to the paste bin...?
[09:33] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set to transparent the date and time on kicker?
[09:34] <roadrunner_> and yes, I just "kate sources.list" and it opened it... so I should just copy/paste that into the paste bin?
[09:34] <crimsun> roadrunner_: yes
[09:35] <roadrunner_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16956
[09:35] <caribou7> Does anyone here use the Krusader file manager?
[09:35] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, noooo... sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:36] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, sorry ! i dont want to interrupt.. simply ignore me..
[09:36] <crimsun> roadrunner_: line 16 has a typo
[09:36] <|lostbyte|> AFK..
[09:36] <roadrunner_> how did it get a typo?
[09:37] <roadrunner_> OOOOH
[09:37] <roadrunner_> When I changed that in adpet
[09:37] <roadrunner_> adept*
[09:37] <roadrunner_> gee... I wonder how I typoed it?
[09:37] <caribou7> Okay, nobody uses Krusader... how about this has anyone managed to install winetools?
[09:37] <crimsun> simple. You made a typo.
[09:37] <roadrunner_> I changed that in adept, and I made a typo
[09:37] <crimsun> Just fix the typo, refresh, and go on with your life.
[09:37] <roadrunner_> right... but I didn't know that changing it in adept would change that file...
[09:38] <roadrunner_> I don't know what I am doing, lol
[09:38] <roadrunner_> thanks alot crimsun... may seem simple to you, but I wouldn't know how to fix it =D
[09:38] <themouse> |lostbyte|, I advanced on the compiling, but now i get another error :@
[09:38] <themouse> make[1] : *** [/home/themouse/Desktop/freetype/freetype-2.1.10/ft2demos-2.1.10/obj/grx11.o]  Error 1
[09:38] <themouse> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/themouse/Desktop/freetype/freetype-2.1.10/ft2demos-2.1.10'
[09:38] <themouse> make: *** [build-stamp]  Error 2
[09:40] <nimix> j
[09:40] <gatekeeper> themouse: use pastebin easier for evryone to see
[09:40] <themouse> ?
[09:40] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: i just used wine to extract that file, but i have no idea where it extracted it to LOL
[09:40] <gatekeeper> !pastebin
[09:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:42] <themouse> ok
[09:42] <caribou7> No one uses krusader or winetools? Guess I'll try again some other time.
[09:43] <james_xxx> if you extract a file using wine, where does it extract to?
[09:43] <|lostbyte|> brb 10 min
[09:44] <afm\colossus> james_xxx: to wine's per-user-basedir
[09:45] <james_xxx> ok
[09:45] <james_xxx> afm\colossus: ty
[09:47] <james_xxx> afm\colossus: next dumb question... how do i find that dir?
[09:48] <afm\colossus> james_xxx: it's probably ~/.wine/drive_c/
[09:48] <james_xxx> hmm
[09:49] <themouse> it's hidden in your home dir
[09:49] <themouse> in Konqueror View > Show hidden files
[09:50] <james_xxx> themouse: ty
[09:50] <themouse> ?
[09:52] <james_xxx> ok this is confusing as hell
[09:53] <themouse> what exactly?
[09:53] <james_xxx> i extracted that file using wine, and i am now in the .wine dir, but i see nothing of what i just extracted
[09:53] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, hi :)
[09:54] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, if your in the dir..
[09:54] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: hi lol
[09:54] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, do ..
[09:54] <|lostbyte|> find | grep -i BCMRNDIS.INF
[09:55] <themouse> |lostbyte|, can you help me with ^ error?
[09:55] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: i entered that, nothing happened
[09:55] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, I should display the inf.
[09:56] <|lostbyte|> find | grep -i *.INF
[09:56] <afm\colossus> nonono
[09:56] <james_xxx> hmmm
[09:56] <afm\colossus> find . -iname "*.inf"
[09:56] <|lostbyte|> -name
[09:56] <james_xxx> ok, do i need to cd to the .wine dir before i enter all of that?
[09:57] <afm\colossus> |lostbyte|: no, iname
[09:57] <afm\colossus> for case-insensitivity
[09:57] <|lostbyte|> afm\colossus, ok !
[09:57] <|lostbyte|> cool ! nice to know.
[09:58] <themouse> |lostbyte|, did you forget me :)
[09:58] <themouse> ^
[09:58] <|lostbyte|> themouse, no ! lolz..
[09:58] <james_xxx> ugh, command not found
[09:58] <themouse> :)
[09:59] <|lostbyte|> themouse, error ?
[09:59] <|lostbyte|> oh ! i see
[10:00] <|lostbyte|> could you paste a little more lines of the error in.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:00] <themouse> w8
[10:01] <james_xxx> afm\colossus: i am still unable to locate that file
[10:02] <__osh__> is there a known problem with katapult in dapper?
[10:02] <themouse> |lostbyte| http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16957
[10:02] <|lostbyte|> afm\colossus, that command does'nt work for me too..
[10:03] <afm\colossus> |lostbyte|: how does it fail?
[10:03] <james_xxx> should i not be able to just see that .inf file using konqueror?
[10:04] <|lostbyte|> themouse, looks to me like a programming error, which is not in my expertease.
[10:04] <afm\colossus> james_xxx: depens on where it resides, huh? :>
[10:04] <james_xxx> afm\colossus: i am sure it does... but none of those commands worked
[10:05] <afm\colossus> themouse: may i ask you why you are compiling freetype yourself?
[10:05] <themouse> because
[10:05] <james_xxx> i was just trying to look in all of the .wine folders
[10:05] <afm\colossus> james_xxx: well, then it's not there, or the file's name differs
[10:05] <themouse> i want to enable Bytecode interpreter
[10:05] <h3sp4wn> which type of bytecode ?
[10:06] <james_xxx> afm\colossus: ok, i just don't get what wine did when in unzipped the .exe file.... it extracted to nowhere
[10:06] <afm\colossus> try this: find / -iname "*.inf"
[10:06] <gatekeeper> themouse: flags is a member of a struct or class but does not appear to be in the original declaration of the struct or class, could be a missing member could be a missing .h file
[10:06] <afm\colossus> maybe it extracted to somewhere under /tmp
[10:06] <|lostbyte|> afm\colossus, My Wronge.. i apologize.
[10:07] <james_xxx> afm\colossus: it is now listing HUNDREDS of .inf files
[10:07] <afm\colossus> well, then refine your search criterias
[10:07] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, ls -l .wine/drive_c/windows/system32/
[10:07] <crazy_penguin> i wish a good night to all! take care!
[10:08] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, ls -l .wine/drive_c/windows/system32/drivers/
[10:08] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: no such file or directory
[10:09] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, I dought you installed the driver..
[10:09] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: i downloaded the file, and i extracted it with wine
[10:09] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, extracted it where ?
[10:09] <|lostbyte|> was it an extract or an install ?
[10:10] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: how in the world am i supposed to know that?
[10:10] <james_xxx> that is what i am trying to figure out
[10:10] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, did it ask you where you wanted to extract..  ?
[10:10] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: no, it didn't
[10:11] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, did the program tell you that the installation is over ?
[10:11] <james_xxx> winzip cam up and asked if i wanted to extract that file, i clicked 'ok'
[10:11] <JIuHgeMaHH> hello. how can i enable preview of jpegs in konqueror?
[10:11] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: WINZIP?
[10:11] <Ardarandir> wtf?
[10:12] <gatekeeper> james_xxx: winzip didn't indicate the location??
[10:12] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: no, i said it was done extracting, but nothing about installing
[10:12] <james_xxx> gatekeeper: no, not at all
[10:12] <themouse> gatekeeper how can i fix that
[10:12] <james_xxx> it*
[10:12] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: have a look at C:\temp
[10:12] <gatekeeper> |lostbyte|: sounds like a self extractor
[10:12] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: i am not in windows
[10:13] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: so why do you use winzip?
[10:13] <gatekeeper> james_xxx: have you access to winzip?
[10:13] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, huh..
[10:13] <admin_> hello
[10:13] <admin_> who can help me
[10:13] <james_xxx> i was trying to unzip the file using wine... and winzip just came up. shocked me too.
[10:14] <Ardarandir> admin_: just ask you questiobn
[10:14] <gatekeeper> themouse: without looking at the C/C++ code I wouldn't know, is this a tarball you downloaded?
[10:14] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: so you DO have a C:/temp ! have a look there!
[10:14] <|lostbyte|> admin_, Aak and though shall recieve. :P
[10:15] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: on my windoes partition?
[10:15] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: no - on you VIRTUAL c-drive inside wine!
[10:15] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: usually /home/$USER/.wine/drive_c/
[10:15] <gatekeeper> Ardarandir: he ought to be able to open this file with winzip and look inside one way or another
[10:16] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: that file is empty
[10:16] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: this oughta be your wine-main-directory!
[10:16] <Ardarandir> no file
[10:16] <Ardarandir> a dir!
[10:17] <james_xxx> i have neve rused wine before, i just installed wine a few minutes ago
[10:17] <rioch> how do i close down the xserver
[10:17] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: this dir should be set up anyway...
[10:17] <Ardarandir> gatekeeper: but what for?
[10:17] <rioch> ctrl-alt-backspace restarts it, but i want to shut it down completely.
[10:17] <Ardarandir> rioch: the whole system or only the xserver?
[10:18] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: it is there, but it is empty
[10:18] <rioch> Ardarandir: just the xserver.
[10:18] <Ardarandir> rioch: sry, so i dont know
[10:18] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: so wine has not been set up correctly
[10:18] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: all thoose DLLs should be there
[10:19] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: anyway, why do you want to extract it with WINZIP?
[10:19] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: i did no setting up at all, i just installed it from Adept, and when i clicked on the .exe file, winzip came up
[10:19] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: i cant believe - you are sure you use a Kubuntu-System?
[10:20] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: i never said that i wanted to extract it with winzip
[10:20] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: geesh, yes, i am using kubuntu
[10:20] <Ardarandir> there is no programme called WinZip with Kubuntu!
[10:20] <gatekeeper> Ardarandir: he seems to have extracted a file (using winzip) that he has downloaded but has no idea where it is, if he examines the contents of what he downloaded he will be able to find the file by looking for it using it's exact name to locate it
[10:20] <Ardarandir> where did you get it?
[10:20] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: where did i get what?
[10:21] <Ardarandir> winzip!
[10:21] <Ardarandir> how did you get winzip on your kubuntu - if you did not use wine???
[10:21] <Ardarandir> thats impossible, isnt it?
[10:21] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: look, i just installed wine about 5 or 6 minutes ago... how it found winzip after i clicked on the .exe file, i have no idea
[10:21] <gatekeeper> Ardarandir: I think what he downloaded was a self-extractor that uses winzip to extract
[10:22] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: i DID use wine! i have said that over and over
[10:22] <Ardarandir> gatekeeper: good idea :)
[10:22] <gatekeeper> Ardarandir: program association :-)
[10:22] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: but you did not install winzip, right?
[10:22] <james_xxx> gatekeeper: yes, it was a self-extractor
[10:22] <Ardarandir> ok, i understand
[10:22] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: no, i didn't install winzip
[10:22] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: as you can tell, i am totally befuddled by all of this lol
[10:22] <Ardarandir> the problem is to get compressed files out of an selfextracting winzip-archive!
[10:23] <james_xxx> ahh
[10:23] <Ardarandir> right?
[10:23] <gatekeeper> james_xxx: if you open this self-extracting file using winzip you can examine it's contents
[10:23] <james_xxx> don't ask me lol
[10:23] <james_xxx> hmmm
[10:23] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: is there no possibility to send it to a friend of yours who is using windows?
[10:23] <james_xxx> gatekeeper: i have no idea where to find the contents
[10:23] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: he coul dextract it for you and send it back...
[10:24] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: i have sveral computers with windows installed
[10:24] <gatekeeper> james_xxx: start winzip -> File -> Open -> downloaded file
[10:24] <mcrandello> you could try changing the filename to .zip and using ark to get to the contents
[10:24] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: if you double-click on that .exe-archive, usually you are prompted to give a directoy to extract to
[10:24] <mcrandello> that sometimes works with self extractors
[10:24] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: that is what i am used to in windows, but it did not ask
[10:25] <james_xxx> gatekeeper: i am using kubuntu
[10:25] <gatekeeper> james_xxx: with wine?
[10:25] <james_xxx> gatekeeper: yes
[10:26] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: if there is none given, it is usually extracted to C:/temp - wheter it is wine or windows, it doesnt matter... or just tell me, what does exist inside $HOME/.wine/drive_c/
[10:26] <gatekeeper> james_xxx: so go to wine and start winzip up
[10:26] <Ardarandir> mcrandello: ure sure?
[10:26] <Ardarandir> gatekeeper: he hasnt got winzip so far, as i understood it!
[10:26] <mcrandello> I've done that with self-extractors in windows to use winrar or 7zip
[10:27] <gatekeeper> Ardarandir: that would probable work too :-)
[10:27] <mcrandello> it *may* work in linux
[10:27] <james_xxx> brb
[10:27] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: first of all you have to create an security-copie of your .exe-File!
[10:27] <mcrandello> afaik most self extractors are a small executable at the very beginning of a .zip file, and the whole kit is renamed to an exe
[10:27] <Ardarandir> sounds logical
[10:27] <james_xxx> module not found lol
[10:27] <mcrandello> worst case you can just change the extension back
[10:28] <Ardarandir> in winXP i did it once, too, i remember..
[10:28] <james_xxx> ok i am totally lost
[10:28] <Ardarandir> mcrandello: do copy it first is always the right ide ;)
[10:28] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: correct!
[10:28] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: you did a security copy?
[10:28] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: no i didn't
[10:28] <mcrandello> the security copy is where you got it from ;P
[10:29] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: do it!
[10:29] <james_xxx> i do not know what you are telling me to do
[10:29] <Ardarandir> mcrandello: you never know...
[10:29] <mcrandello> true
[10:29] <gatekeeper> I am sure you are right!
[10:30] <james_xxx> explain to me whay i need to copy the .exe file?
[10:30] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: just do a copy of you file to another directory!
[10:30] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: to restore it in case sth goes wrong!
[10:30] <Ardarandir> argh
[10:30] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: i can just download it again
[10:30] <Ardarandir> kk
[10:30] <Ardarandir> so plz
[10:30] <Ardarandir> just rename the file from .exe to .zip
[10:31] <mcrandello> james_xxx: change the filename from foo.exe to foo.zip then just click on it
[10:31] <james_xxx> foo?
[10:31] <Ardarandir> just rename the file from .exe to .zip!
[10:31] <mcrandello> where "foo" is the part of the filename in front of .exe
[10:31] <Ardarandir> just rename the file from .exe to .zip! <---
[10:31] <mcrandello> james_xxx: you'll see "foo" a lot in linux howtos, it's a variable of sorts
[10:32] <james_xxx> ok, it is now a .zip
[10:32] <mcrandello> now click that puppy
[10:32] <james_xxx> click on it?
[10:32] <james_xxx> k
[10:32] <Ardarandir> just try to unzip it...
[10:32] <Ardarandir> should work
[10:33] <ninHer> hi all
[10:33] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: ok it unzipped
[10:33] <gatekeeper> woohoo!
[10:33] <gatekeeper> nice one mcrandello
[10:34] <james_xxx> all of this to get some crappy usb wireless adapter to work, that probably has no chance.... lol
[10:34] <mcrandello> once in a while I know an answer :)
[10:34] <james_xxx> lol
[10:34] <james_xxx> ty mcrandello
[10:34] <roadrunner> msg nickserv identify covalt9681
[10:34] <Ardarandir> great mcrandello :)
[10:34] <mcrandello> this is the windows wireless driver?
[10:34] <Ardarandir> lol
[10:34] <james_xxx> mcrandello: yes
[10:34] <mcrandello> I can almost gaurantee it won't
[10:34] <james_xxx> mcrandello: some people have got it to work on other systems
[10:35] <Ardarandir> roadrunner_: i would propose to change your pw by now *lol*
[10:35] <mcrandello> let us know if it does
[10:35] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: would need ndiswrapper wouldn't he?
[10:35] <james_xxx> gatekeeper: yes
[10:35] <mcrandello> oic what you're saying
[10:35] <Ardarandir> i guess i better stick with the german #kubuntu-de channel *smile*
[10:35] <james_xxx> it is a linksys WUSB54GS v.4
[10:35] <Ardarandir> good bye :=
[10:35] <mcrandello> it's like those scanner drivers with sane that require the firmware to work
[10:36] <james_xxx> Ardarandir:  dein englisch ist perfekt
[10:36] <mcrandello> anyone running xgl?
[10:39] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: I think there is a conversation taking place about XGL in #ubuntu
[10:39] <mcrandello> gatekeeper: thx
[10:40] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: hope I am right :-)
[10:40] <afm\colossus> anyone in here with an ASUS A8S-X mainboard?
[10:40] <tmdx120> Hello all!
[10:40] <mcrandello> gatekeeper: they just got told to go to ubuntu-xgl ehe
[10:41] <tmdx120> Im having trouble getting my wireless 2100 pci laptop card to work. Any ideas?
[10:45] <james_xxx> ok, one more question about zip archives..... i am wanting to use a driver that is in that file that i just unzipped. when ndiswrapper asks for the driver location, i still do not know what to tell it....
[10:49] <james_xxx> gatekeeper: you think you could help me with this?
[10:49] <james_xxx> or anyone?
[10:50] <mcrandello> james_xxx: where did you unzip it
[10:50] <mcrandello> are the files all on your desktop?
[10:51] <james_xxx> mcrandello: no, they are not on my desktop
[10:51] <mcrandello> where was the zip file?
[10:51] <james_xxx> in a folder i made named /wifi
[10:52] <mcrandello> open up a terminal
[10:52] <james_xxx> opened
[10:53] <mcrandello> cd /wifi
[10:53] <|lostbyte|> BAZIL LOST !!!!!!!
[10:53] <|lostbyte|> I feel so bad..
[10:53] <james_xxx> after i unzipped, a window cam up with a list of all the extracted contents, and at the top it says 'file///home/james/wifi/F5D7051.zip - Ark'
[10:53] <|lostbyte|> :(
[10:54] <james_xxx> ok i did the cd
[10:54] <mcrandello> type ls
[10:55] <james_xxx> mcrandello: that is what i was afraid of, all it lists is the .zip folder
[10:55] <ninHer> i need a non-spanish girlfriend
[10:55] <ninHer> any kde software for that issue ?
[10:55] <ninHer> ;-)
[10:55] <mcrandello> type unzip F5D7051.zip
[10:55] <james_xxx> ninHer: i need a non-chinese one, maybe we can trade
[10:56] <|lostbyte|> ninHer, yeah ! kdegirlfriend :P
[10:56] <ninHer> uhmm, i'll think about it
[10:56] <mcrandello> then try ls again
[10:56] <afm\colossus> i need a non-virtual one
[10:56] <afm\colossus> anyone interested?
[10:56] <james_xxx> afm\colossus: i think i need to upgrade to a virtual one
[10:56] <ninHer> ok, if you find one, let me know
[10:56] <james_xxx> :-D
[10:57] <|lostbyte|> My girfriend is broken.. need a new one..
[10:57] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: no one able to help you with xgl?
[10:57] <james_xxx> mcrandello: ok , i did that
[10:57] <ninHer> well, mine is perfect; that's why i need a new one
[10:58] <mcrandello> gatekeeper: it's like I'm the only one with this problem
[10:58] <ninHer> may be i am lucky in the next lan party here in spain
[10:58] <mcrandello> james_xxx: it showing the files?
[10:58] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: sorry :-(
[10:58] <james_xxx> mcrandello: ok that was  a big help... yes, it shows them
[10:58] <mcrandello> alright now type "pwd"
[10:59] <mcrandello> then higlight what it tells you
[10:59] <mcrandello> and then go back to where it wants the directory they're in and then click with the _middle_ mouse button
[10:59] <james_xxx> mcrandello: oops, i already added the .inf to ndiswrapper
[10:59] <mcrandello> oh
[11:00] <mcrandello> whatever works :)
[11:00] <mcrandello> if you're going to have more than one user on the machine you may want to make a directory at the top level called /opt and put them in s subdirectory of that
[11:00] <mcrandello> like /opt/wirelessdrivers
[11:01] <lib8264q> hi can someone help me with a ? reguarding  kde-core install
[11:01] <james_xxx> brb, i need to reboot... it does not see the wireless adapter (which will probably not work anyways)
[11:01] <lib8264q> whats the command used to install ( from the kubuntu cd)
[11:01] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, no we wont.. !!
[11:02] <lib8264q> lol
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, just joking..
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, Ask ! some one will know..
[11:02] <lib8264q> kool ....
[11:02] <mcrandello> james_xxx: it might work
[11:02] <mcrandello> lib8264q: there's no "install" icon on the desktop?
[11:03] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, everything on the kubuntu cd is alreasdy installed.. anything else can we installed over repos..
[11:03] <mcrandello> oh I thought he meant from the livecd nm
[11:04] <lib8264q> no .... i tell you what it is ... only way to get it installled ... dont know why  but its the only way  is do a server install first then install tyhe desktop  seems starnge ... but trust me   its the only way it goes in live cd crashes
[11:05] <mcrandello> I was having some livecd issues as well, this was the dapper beta gnome cd though
[11:06] <lib8264q> naw even with teh alternat if i try a stright  install it crashes  i have to do it in sep stages ....
[11:06] <lib8264q> then it installs ...#
[11:06] <lib8264q> ????????????????
[11:06] <lib8264q> but im trying to just install the kde-core desktop
[11:07] <gatekeeper> lib8264q: I had a bad maxtor hdd which caused dapper to crash on installation, but the old text breezy installer worked, replaced it for a seagate and it installed fine
[11:07] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, what are you using then, right now ?
[11:08] <lib8264q> xp box
[11:08] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, Dont you have the kubuntu cd ?
[11:08] <lib8264q> yep
[11:08] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, slip it in and install from boot.
[11:08] <lib8264q> i want to have just the core desktop
[11:09] <lib8264q> aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ... puts  in a lot of stuff ill never use ...
[11:09] <mcrandello> you can remove the stuff you don't want
[11:09] <mcrandello> it'll say it's removing "kde-desktop" but that's just a  metapackage
[11:10] <lib8264q> iv tried aptitude kde-core kdm and kde loads but then gives errors
[11:10] <Chryseus> how about kdebase?
[11:10] <lib8264q> yeap as well
[11:10] <lib8264q> new there was one missing  lol
[11:11] <lib8264q> but its  givinig  2 errors
[11:11] <lib8264q> cant open theme file /usr/share apps/kde/themes/kubuntu
[11:12] <lib8264q>  and xsession unable to start xsession
[11:12] <lib8264q> any ideas
[11:12] <lib8264q> ?
[11:13] <lib8264q> im new to kubuntu  ... so dont know where the problems lie ... if it was dos  or xp would not be a prob...
[11:14] <lib8264q> linux /unix commands arent that great
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> ?
[11:15] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, huh ?
[11:15] <SpAwN> hello all anyone know if there is a list of all supported sound cards??.....i tried the live dvd and i had no sound...i wanna see if i can get it working b4 i consider installing kubuntu
[11:15] <DaSkreech> arso: Morning
[11:16] <|lostbyte|> SpAwN, what sound card ?
[11:16] <ChrisCoolie> hello from Germany!
[11:16] <lib8264q> lol  np ... but  still dosent change the fact as far as this  o/s is concerned im a noobo ;)
[11:16] <Ahmuck> lib8264q: if you were new to a humvee and did not know all the controls does not make it less great
[11:16] <SpAwN> lspci says its this: 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[11:16] <DaSkreech> ChrisCoolie: Hallo!
[11:16] <Ahmuck> lib8264q: what are you problems ?
[11:17] <SpAwN> i had the same prob of not being able to set up my sound card on centos and ubuntu a while back
[11:17] <lib8264q> im trying to be clever .... and just install the kde-core desktop
[11:17] <lib8264q> but when it loading im getting to errors
[11:17] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, what is loading.. KDE ?
[11:17] <lib8264q> yep
[11:17] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, error in a window ?
[11:18] <Ahmuck> pastebin.com
[11:18] <lib8264q> kde starts to load up then gives cant open theme file  ....
[11:19] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, go to themes can chage to defualt.
[11:19] <lib8264q> is default
[11:19] <mcrandello> lib8264q: apt-cache search kde|grep theme see if you can find the package it wants
[11:19] <lib8264q> cool....
[11:19] <mcrandello> | takes the output from the first command and then runs the second on it
[11:20] <mcrandello> grep is a fun command you can use to find strings with
[11:20] <DaSkreech> !bash
[11:20] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:21] <ChrisCoolie> i am familiar with debian (and parts) but i like to use the (k )desktop...
[11:22] <DaSkreech> ok When I mount something if it can't read the superblock is that bad?
[11:22] <ChrisCoolie> ... so is usual to 'switch' to kubuntu?
[11:22] <zorglu1> DaSkreech: yes :)
[11:22] <zorglu1> the mount wont work
[11:22] <ChrisCoolie> there is no "it" in the sentence
[11:23] <DaSkreech> zorglu1: Yes but does that mean I have a new doorstop?
[11:23] <zorglu1> doorstrop ?
[11:23] <lib8264q> sorry be a few mins  ... someones just called ...
[11:23] <ChrisCoolie> Short question: is there a german language channel with the topic _kubuntu_?
[11:24] <kbrooks> OK, Ubuntu Community. We all should testt EasyUbuntu (use it). if it doesn't work, file a bug at https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu. Version to test: 3.02.1, available at http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu-3.021.tar.gz
[11:24] <h3sp4wn> !de
[11:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:24] <zorglu1>  #kubuntu-de has currently 34personns on it
[11:24] <ChrisCoolie> Danke sehr, thank you :)
[11:25] <kbrooks> sehr?
[11:25] <larson9999> thanks really
[11:25] <kbrooks> i thought danke was enough for a "thank you". what does it really mean?
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> ChrisCoolie: #kanotix is pretty good if you speak german (most things are the same between debian sid and kubuntu)
[11:25] <ChrisCoolie> In german, often the word "sehr" is used with "Danke"
[11:25] <legout> hi. anybody can tell me, how i can set me WLAN card in monitoring mode? Ive got centrino laptop
[11:25] <kbrooks> ChrisCoolie: meaning?
[11:25] <zorglu1> danke sehr = thanks a lot/very much i guess
[11:26] <ChrisCoolie> ok
[11:26] <larson9999> yep
[11:26] <zorglu1> sehr is very, from memory :)
[11:26] <DaSkreech> zorglu1: Door stp :-P :-)
[11:26] <ChrisCoolie> okay to language topics ;)
[11:26] <|lostbyte|> legout, sudo iwconfig <device> essid <name> mode monitor
[11:27] <threnody> legout: I believe that the centrino chip doesn't allow promiscuous mode.
[11:27] <|lostbyte|> legout, why do you want that ?
[11:27] <ChrisCoolie> i read the distri kanotix comes from knoppix (on its official site)
[11:27] <DaSkreech> zorglu1: What's the superblock it can't read?
[11:27] <legout> |lostbyte|: just wanna test how "save" my wlan is
[11:27] <nixternal> !pastebin
[11:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:28] <|lostbyte|> threnody, it mostly dep on the wlan card.
[11:28] <h3sp4wn> ChrisCoolie: It uses debian sid repostories if you install it
[11:28] <zorglu1> DaSkreech: a super block is the 'main' block, the 'root' block, the block from wich the whole filesystem derives
[11:28] <DaSkreech> zorglu1: So Not being able toread it means what? the Drive is dead?
[11:28] <zorglu1> DaSkreech: my guess is that you got either the partition name wrong or the fs type you gave is wrong
[11:28] <mcrandello> it could mean you specified the wrong filesystem type
[11:29] <threnody> lostbyte: most pcmcia cards will allow promiscuous mode, but I believe Intel's motherboard centrino chipset will not.
[11:29] <zorglu1> DaSkreech: most likely no :) it is simply an error in the command you gave
[11:29] <mcrandello> if it's a windows drive something like "mount -t fat" or "mount -t ntfs"
[11:29] <DaSkreech> zorglu1: Ok :( vfat
[11:29] <ChrisCoolie> i'd like to use a system that's on one hand site actual but mostly stable as possible
[11:31] <ChrisCoolie> until december 2005 i used sarge, then i tested etch
[11:31] <DaSkreech> seems strange though I used the same command to mount last week
[11:31] <ChrisCoolie> but i'm unsure about sid repositories and stability
[11:32] <zorglu1> ChrisCoolie: stability and uptodate are not really compatible :)
[11:32] <ChrisCoolie> i know that.
[11:32] <h3sp4wn> ChrisCoolie: What I am saying is if you want to ask a question in german about kubuntu if you ask it in #kanotix the answer will most likely be the same
[11:33] <zorglu1> DaSkreech: it would help you to get help, if you tried to explain clearly what you want/do/have etc...
[11:33] <DaSkreech> I have a script that mounts my partitions
[11:33] <DaSkreech> I ran it today and it threw that error
[11:33] <ChrisCoolie> debian makes it possible either to use stable or the stages until messed up
[11:34] <DaSkreech> I'm going to reboot soon and see if the drive got detached somehow
[11:35] <ChrisCoolie> so, the final question is: which debian based comes mostly to the middle?
[11:35] <DaSkreech> Etch?
[11:36] <ChrisCoolie> my hardware is not so actual, but stable ;)
[11:37] <h3sp4wn> kubuntu is stable but the system feels less responsive than with sid or etch
[11:37] <DaSkreech> I guess you can tune down somestuff
[11:37] <DaSkreech> Like having katapult on by default
[11:38] <ChrisCoolie> My newest Etch DVD is from december 2005. either i load and burn the newest (as i did a few days ago ;) )
[11:39] <ChrisCoolie> ... or i use the elder and make a bigger update
[11:39] <h3sp4wn> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade (what is wrong with that or is there a change of xorg version or something inbetween)
[11:40] <ChrisCoolie> in etch you login root
[11:40] <macconline> hi....
[11:40] <macconline> i have a problem
[11:40] <h3sp4wn> I have been using sudo for ages (before I used ubuntu) so I just enable it on debian
[11:41] <macconline> con el process Xorg... after of ps aux... see this:
[11:41] <ChrisCoolie> but the big etch' update messes up if i don't be care
[11:41] <Armagguedes> hello
[11:41] <macconline> line of process: /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-SSmzCJ
[11:41] <Armagguedes> i just updated my dapper (i had 4 updates), and now my system keeps hanging
[11:41] <ChrisCoolie> apt hat Superkuh-Krfte ;)
[11:41] <h3sp4wn> ChrisCoolie: I can imagine
[11:42] <macconline> this using 28.4% of memory
[11:43] <macconline> help me
[11:43] <Armagguedes> i was thinking of reformating, considering my system comes from a Flight Dapper
[11:44] <ChrisCoolie> now i go to the neighbours - cu
[11:44] <ChrisCoolie> where german speaking
[11:45] <ChrisCoolie> bye
[11:47] <marty_> some antivir for kubuntu?
[11:48] <marty_> witch is the best?
[11:48] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: have you tried going into #ubuntu-xgl (just a thought) ?
[11:48] <mcrandello> Armagguedes: you don't have a laptop with a radeon 200m do you?
[11:48] <mcrandello> gatekeeper: I'm in there right now :)
[11:48] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: cool :-)
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> mcrandello: The latest version of fglrx provides much  better support for your card if you are having problems
[11:49] <mcrandello> h3sp4wn: yes Im using 8.26.18 atm and it freezes a lot less
[11:50] <Armagguedes> man my laptop (acer) is making a lot of strange noises (lots of clicking). They seem to come from the CPU area. Any ideas what those might be?
[11:50] <mcrandello> Armagguedes' problem sounded familiar though :)
[11:50] <Armagguedes> ati m11/9700
[11:50] <Armagguedes> it only started AFTER updating
[11:51] <mcrandello> yeah I reformatted and after updating started having a lot more frequent freezes
[11:51] <zorglu1> Armagguedes: my guess is it is from your cpu fan
[11:51] <mcrandello> now I'm using 8.26.18 and dapper beta and I've been very careful NOT to update anything related to the kernel, the USB system or anything low level
[11:52] <mcrandello> and it seems to have kept if from returning
[11:52] <Armagguedes> the busted updates were GnuPG and a *lib, i dont remember which (but there were 3 of these, same category/file, but different types)
[11:53] <mcrandello> the one thing on my wishlist (other than for the radeon drivers to be better) is a rollback feature in adept
[11:53] <DaSkreech> macconline: Hello?
[11:53] <mcrandello> of course I heard ATI is about to come out with some workstation cards soon so maybe the drivers will start getting better
[11:54] <macconline> DaSkreech: ??
[11:54] <macconline> you see my problem?
[11:54] <DaSkreech> macconline: Whats the problem?
[11:54] <macconline> the process Xorg use much memory
[11:55] <slow-motion> n8
[11:55] <macconline> of 3% RAM --->>> 70% in four hours
[11:55] <macconline> root      5174  1.0 28.4<PHONE_NUMBER>92 tty7    RLs+ 15:16   1:25 /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-SSmzCJ
[11:55] <DaSkreech> Alt+Ctrl+BkSpc?
[11:55] <macconline> this is a line of ps aux, you see 28.4 % ram
[11:56] <macconline> DaSkreech: yes, but again
[11:56] <afm\colossus> macconline: unless you don't grasp linux virtual memory allocation, please, don't try fiddling around with it ;)
[11:57] <DaSkreech> macconline: How much RAMdo you have?
[11:57] <flosch> hi all
[11:57] <macconline> 768,
[11:57] <flosch> little questions ... how can i refresh the apt-package system and how can i configure the sources apt should use?
[11:58] <ubuntu_> hi
[11:58] <gatekeeper> flosch: apt-update
[11:58] <flosch> a KDE GUI?
[11:58] <jpatrick> flosch: Adept
[11:58] <DaSkreech> !sources > flosch
[11:59] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Hello
[11:59] <flosch> jpatrick: Mhm ... Can't find any option to configure the sources in Adept... :-(
[11:59] <gatekeeper> flosch: have a look at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:59] <DaSkreech> flosch: Open Adept -> Adept Menu -> Manager Repositories
[11:59] <DaSkreech> Manage :(
[11:59] <macconline> DaSkreech: i do not that are
[12:00] <DaSkreech> macconline: sorry?
[12:00] <macconline> my english is bad....
[12:00] <flosch> DaSkreech: there is no option like this one
[12:00] <macconline> how solutins this problem?
[12:00] <flosch> Da
[12:00] <flosch> -Da
[12:01] <DaSkreech> flosch: You know the menu adept at the top left of the application?
[12:01] <DaSkreech> macconline: I'm not sure have you done any modifications to the X setup?
[12:01] <DaSkreech> macconline: Have you changed Xorg's configuration ?
[12:02] <flosch> DaSkreech: yeah.. there's no entry like "Manage Repositories" or something like that
[12:02] <macconline> only is that i have monitor + tv...
[12:02] <ubuntu_> Oh yeah, my Kubuntu install's broke.   I just loaded it of a 6.06LTS ISO.  It was working fine, I installed some fairly standard packages, did a dist-upgrade, and now it's broke.  The bootsplash comes up, and it says it's loadinf CUPS and stuff like that, then it finishes and you get to the part where KDM should should up, and it's just a blank black screen with a gray cursor in the top left corner, not even a shell prompt.
[12:02] <DaSkreech> flosch: What do you have there?
[12:02] <flosch> DaSkreech: only "Close" ... to close the app ... nothing else
[12:02] <flosch> DaSkreech: just installed a fresh kubuntu ..
[12:02] <flosch> DaSkreech: so this is my first kubuntu boot
[12:02] <DaSkreech> flosch: 5.10 or 6.06?
[12:02] <flosch> 6.06
[12:02] <macconline> DaSkreech: only nvidia out and monitor...
[12:03] <flosch> DaSkreech: Adept 2.0 Destroyer
[12:03] <macconline> but before that this.... equal
[12:03] <Garnol> Can someone answer a noob questions in a privat chat ?? (who?)
[12:03] <DaSkreech> macconline: I'm not sure what the problem is. I've not played around with Dual monitors so I don't ven know if that is normal :(
[12:03] <DaSkreech> Garnol: Just ask
[12:04] <gatekeeper> garnol just ask
[12:04] <DaSkreech> !ask
[12:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:04] <Lynoure> Garnol: asking on the channel is usually most efficient. No one will laugh at you.
[12:04] <DaSkreech> flosch: What do you have under the edit menu?
[12:04] <ubuntu_> Oh yeah, my Kubuntu install's broke.   I just loaded it of a 6.06LTS ISO.  It was working fine, I installed some fairly standard packages, did a dist-upgrade, and now it's broke.  The bootsplash comes up, and it says it's loadinf CUPS and stuff like that, then it finishes and you get to the part where KDM should should up, and it's just a blank black screen with a gray cursor in the top left corner, not even a shell prompt.
[12:05] <flosch> DaSkreech: Undo and Redo
[12:05] <DaSkreech> flosch: Ok How about Under View?
[12:05] <flosch> DaSkreech: Show changes
[12:05] <DaSkreech> And just that?
[12:05] <flosch> ya
[12:05] <flosch> DaSkreech: (translated from german into english, .. my adept is in german language)
[12:06] <ubuntu_> !broken
[12:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about broken
[12:06] <ubuntu_> !noboot
[12:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about noboot
[12:06] <ubuntu_> !boot
[12:06] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:07] <DaSkreech> !fish
[12:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about fish
[12:07] <DaSkreech> !fishing
[12:07] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[12:07] <gatekeeper> ubuntu_: are you happy to reinstall ? why did you do a dist-upgrade?