[02:46] <phillw> wxl: ping.... pre warning of CC issue
[03:01] <tsimonq2> phillw: this is not the place for this
[03:01] <phillw> tsimonq2: not a place for what? pinging some one?....
[03:02] <tsimonq2> whatever
[04:26] <phillw> tsimonq2: wxl Well, as SABDFL is now involved, that is as much as I can say. He has asked me not to discuss the current event, and even though it is not a ubuntu issue, I respect that he took time to answer and have assured him that any further details of what transpired will not be posted up on any new areas.
[11:31] <LStranger> wxl: that is very sad but I still wait Jerome Leclanche to push out translations from the Pootle server so I could update translations before releasing packages. He isn't much responsible so I'm not sure about when it could happen but I really would like to get those updates since last sync he did last spring. :(
[11:33] <LStranger> wxl: although I still have a hope that he don't really want LXDE to die.
[11:38] <LStranger> The most probably, if he still won't responce then I'll release all as is, because timing is important.


[04:14] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:27] <akemhp_> Hello ;)
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> hey akemhp_
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> all good over there?
[04:31] <akemhp_> Yep, coffee and fruit juice, i'm all ok :) and you?
[04:32] <akemhp_> I installed Lubuntu in Virtual box to try it and do some tests.
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> cool, wich lubuntu are you testing
[04:32] <akemhp_> 19.04
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> cool
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> ive been installing alot of 18.04 lubuntu's on older laptops, works pretty great
[04:35] <RikMills> morning
[04:35]  * RikMills needs a lot of coffee
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> morning RikMills ; )
[04:36] <akemhp_> Hey.
[04:54] <RikMills> anyone testing 19.10 installs? should be fixes for zfs install in next bunch of isos
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> RikMills: yes we having some crew doing 19.10 dailys
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> think guiverc does lubuntu, blueskaj doing KDE's tomreyn does testing too
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> EoflaOE too
[04:56]  * Bashing-om xubuntu :P
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> there we go :p
[04:57] <RikMills> great. Kubuntu doesn't have the zfs option, as desktop-team only adapted the ubiquity gtk front end so far. But it was causing the KDE from end to crash as it uses the same scripts under the hood
[04:57] <guiverc> RikMills, Lubuntu 19.10 installed with XFS & BTRFS yesterday; we don't test/do ZFS
[04:58] <RikMills> guiverc: you don't use ubiquity either. lol
[04:58] <guiverc> nope :)
[04:59] <guiverc> I've got a ubiquity installed running curretnly (xubuntu - but default ext4)
[04:59] <guiverc> installed/install ^
[05:01] <RikMills> new ubiquity landed last night, so all things are reset. just need to test now so to try to avoid a bazillion RC iso respins later in the next week ;)
[05:02] <guiverc> well my xubuntu install appears to have hung.. haven't worked out issue yet
[05:04] <RikMills> guiverc: iso date?
[05:04] <RikMills> new one spun just 2 hrs ago I think
[05:05] <guiverc> Wed 09 Oct 2019
[05:05]  * RikMills waits for cron to do kubuntu
[05:06] <RikMills> you have latest ubiquity on that then
[05:06] <OerHeks>  Ubiquity 19.10.14 ?
[05:07] <RikMills> OerHeks: latest is 19.10.16
[05:08] <OerHeks> oh oke
[05:08] <guiverc> apt-cache policy says 19.10.16 ; but bird feed time, back in ~20 mins
[05:09] <RikMills> landed in -release pocket 7 hrs ago, so only isos spun after that will have it. though you can update it in the live session if not
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> we will spread the word RikMills
[05:18] <RikMills> :)
[05:38] <guiverc> lp 1847415  for my issue; no idea what it is (xubuntu 19.10 daily)
[05:42] <RikMills> last thing it seemed to be doing was getting ready to install nvidia drivers :/
[05:44] <guiverc> thumb-drive check-disc-for-defects passed again, trying again...
[05:45] <guiverc> (isn't trying the same thing again expecting different results the first sign of insanity???)
[05:46] <RikMills> not with ubiquity!
[05:46] <guiverc> :)  LOL
[05:46] <guiverc> looks the same... but it's still somewhat early... I'll give it 15-20 mins
[05:47] <RikMills> I am zsyncing new kubuntu now
[05:58] <guiverc> good luck RikMills    want me to try Kubuntu on the same box?  (xubuntu install will be killed about same time zsync would complete..)
[05:58] <RikMills> guiverc: might be handy, as I cannot test with a nvidia machine right now
[05:59] <RikMills> the partitioning crash after zfs bits were added seems fixed :)
[06:02] <guiverc> :)  !!! for ZFS issue
[06:03] <RikMills> installed :)
[06:21] <ducasse> good morning
[06:31] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:58] <guiverc> no issues with kubuntu install RikMills
[06:59] <RikMills> guiverc: thanks!
[07:01] <guiverc> love the Flying Konqui wallpaper :)
[07:02] <RikMills> what???
[07:02] <RikMills> oh, in the plasma default. lol
[07:02] <guiverc> doing a live install - generic play ; changing wallpapers "Flying Konqui" is the name of a very cute wallpaper :)
[07:03] <guiverc> s/live install/live test/ (different box)
[07:04] <RikMills> next time KDE ship a horrible default wallpaper, maybe I should make that Kubuntu default :D
[07:05] <ducasse> hi guiverc - good morning
[07:06] <guiverc> you can't please everyone with photos/wallpapers; picking the default wallpaper maybe should be the respsobility of our a D&D die spin maybe
[07:06] <guiverc> Howdy ducasse
[07:08] <ducasse> guiverc: all well?
[07:09] <guiverc> Yep thanks ducasse, how about you?
[07:10] <ducasse> all good, thanks, leaving for kiel today
[07:12] <guiverc> ducasse, short-term or long term  -- I'm no fan of change, so I'd find it stressful..
[07:14] <ducasse> very short-term, will be back on friday. i like staying at home myself, but need to get out now and then.
[07:16] <guiverc> nothing is like home... nortern DE - will it be warmer?
[07:16] <guiverc> more probably colder; it's getting warmer down here (south)..
[07:17] <ducasse> about the same temp, i guesss
[07:18] <guiverc> got plans whilst your there?
[07:18] <ducasse> not really, just eat and relax
[07:19] <ducasse> i'm buying a new vape mod, but that's about it
[07:19] <guiverc> sounds good..
[07:22] <guiverc> I'm jealous that VLC works in kubuntu (live), but NOT Lubuntu
[10:04] <marcoagpinto> Hello!
[11:05] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> !upgrade
[12:01] <marcoagpinto> hey BluesKaj! lotuspsychje!
[12:01] <marcoagpinto> :)
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> afternoon marcoagpinto
[12:06] <BluesKaj> hi marcoagpinto
[13:45] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: won't he need to manually install the broadcom drivers?
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> ducasse: depends if he got cable access
[13:46] <ducasse> yep, but he needs those drivers to get wifi
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> if no access he can do the offline broadcom method from install media
[13:47] <ducasse> right


[07:55] <rnix> hi, i'm experimenting with ubuntu 13.04 on a nexus7 and was wondering what's used in order to check battery state. acpi is not installed. any hints?
[07:58] <IamTrying> While using OLife my Eee Pad transformer was crashed.
[07:59] <IamTrying> I have found the ROM from ASUS http://www.asus.com/Tablets_Mobile/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/#support_Download_32
[07:59] <IamTrying> But how can i transfer it to my Eee Pad using OLife?
[08:07] <IamTrying> Where do i put those files? http://www.asus.com/Tablets_Mobile/Eee_Pad_Transformer_TF101/#support_Download_32
[08:07] <IamTrying> i have downloaded the http://lilstevie.geek.nz/downloads/OLiFE-Prime-Edition.tar.gz_1.2a_TF101_767779ccfa200e5e00b2f1e33a3d73a9
[08:57] <rnix> dbus on org.freedesktop.UPower does the trick...
[08:59] <ogra_> right, we're using upower which attaches to the platform battery device
[09:08] <rnix> another question, any idea to fix screen orientation to landscape? first time i tried 12.10 on n7, orientation was landscape, this changed with 13.04 to portrait
[09:11] <ogra_> it should actualy autorotate
[09:11] <darkfader> shake it ;)
[09:12] <ogra_> sudo service acceld stop
[09:12] <IamTrying> Why the Asus Eee pad after installing OLife always in Black screen?
[09:12] <ogra_> use that to stop auto rotation
[09:12] <ogra_> then use xrandr to rotate
[09:13] <rnix> ogra_: thx
[09:19] <IamTrying> ogra_, where?
[09:21] <ogra_> IamTrying, ?
[09:21] <ogra_> where what ?
[11:22] <rnix> ok, xrandr works, now i need to transform xinput as well in order to correct touch input...
[12:26] <IamTrying> ogra_, no its ok thanks, i thought you answered me
[12:26] <ogra_> ah, sorry ... i didnt prefix the answer
[13:59] <ogra_> hrw, the nexus has usb host ...
[14:00] <ogra_> (just reading your blohg post)
[14:02] <ogra_> (not sure if android offers it in userspace though, but the ubuntu desktop nexus7 image heavily relies on usb host (and we use the android kernel))
[14:06] <hrw> ogra_: it has OTG
[14:06] <ogra_> well, it runs in host mode if you attach an OTG cable
[14:06] <ogra_> i'm using it with a HUB here
[14:06] <ogra_> with a bunch of devices attached
[14:07] <hrw> sure but it is still otg
[14:07] <hrw> and I have had bad experiences with such
[14:07] <ogra_> you want a big socket you mean ?=
[14:08] <hrw> yep
[14:08] <ogra_> ah
[14:08] <hrw> with ehci signalling
[14:08] <ogra_> i thought it was a complaint about function, not form :)
[14:08] <hrw> both
[14:08] <ogra_> it uses ehci
[14:08] <ogra_> afaik
[14:09] <hrw> updated post
[14:10] <hrw> +And by USB Host port I mean normal EHCI host port. Not an OTG one present in Nexus 7.
[14:10] <hrw> Archos has EHCI + OTG
[14:10] <ogra_> ah
[14:10] <ogra_> i never had an archos ... they never sent me one
[14:10]  * ogra_ blames av500 :)
[14:10] <hrw> I bought mine
[14:11] <ogra_> crazy talk :)
[14:11] <hrw> never again
[14:11] <hrw> omap4430 suxx too much with 512MB ram
[14:11] <ogra_> well, there were times when that was awesome :)
[14:11] <ogra_> 4 years ago or so
[14:11] <hrw> I had to skip those
[14:12] <ogra_> note that ubuntu touch actually focuses on 512M now :)
[14:12] <hrw> arm926 512MB -> arm1136 128MB -> 1136 256MB -> omap3 128MB -> omap3 256MB -> omap4430 1GB
[14:13] <hrw> s/(arm)?1136/i.mx31
[14:13] <ogra_> tell that to the manufacturers
[14:14] <ogra_> the average non-highend phones still ship with 512M
[14:14] <Neko> and 128MB of that is reserved for graphics :D
[14:23] <hrw> ogra_: ICS was fine with 512MB
[14:23] <ogra_> UTouch will be too :)
[14:24] <hrw> ogra_: where are apps for utouch?
[14:24] <ogra_> likely not shiny, but it will be ok
[14:24] <ogra_> in the apps PPAs
[14:24] <ogra_> michael hall blogs about them all the time
[14:24] <ogra_> see planet :)
[14:26] <hrw> so far did not saw anything breath taking
[14:26] <ogra_> what woudl you expect ? there wasnt even a release of UTouch
[14:27] <ogra_> and for not having a stable api yet i think over 40 apps is a good number already
[14:27] <ogra_> (and for not having any sensors access)
[14:30] <ogra_> hrw, *and* Ubuntu Touch is the *only* OS that has a Jono Head app !
[14:30] <hrw> ;D
[14:31] <hrw> ogra_: anyway I do not have device for ubuntu phone/tablet testing
[14:31] <ogra_> really ?
[14:31] <ogra_> we support over 50
[14:32] <hrw> ogra_: neither my nexus 4 or 7 are free to be reflashed
[14:32] <hrw> I know that they are supported but I use them
[14:32] <ogra_> yeah, i dont run it on these either
[14:32] <ogra_> my test device is my old galaxy S2
[14:32] <XorA> heh the age old issue of needing actual working devices :-D
[14:33] <ogra_> i think thats solved brilliantly for UTouch
[14:33] <ogra_> thanks to the android core porting is super easy
[14:33] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[14:34] <hrw> ogra_: I noticed that UbuntuTouchCore is other name for CyanogenMod ;D
[14:34] <ogra_> hmm, i dont think so ...
[14:34] <ogra_> core defines the plumbing layer on the ubuntu side afaik
[14:34] <ogra_> (libhybris and Mir)
[14:35] <hrw> Building the Android pieces
[14:35] <hrw> You can find all the needed Android git repositories at http://phablet.ubuntu.com/gitweb. This is basically a mirror of CyanogenMod 10.1, but containing only the needed low level services used by Android (e.g. no Dalvik at all).
[14:35] <hrw> porting guide
[14:35] <ogra_> yeah
[14:35] <ogra_> but i dont think thats what we calkl ubuntu touch core
[14:35] <hrw> And: "To support a wide range of devices, we decided to use CyanogenMod as a base for the Android system. You could safely use AOSP, as we don't use a lot of the customizations and improvements done at the App/Java side, but it's easier with CyanogenMod due the scripts and build procedures available for it. "
[14:36] <ogra_> would be silly to upset the CM devs by renaming their stuff :)
[14:41] <hrw> ;)
[14:41] <ogra_> will be intresting once we have the first preinstalled devices ...
[14:42] <ogra_> i dont think it is decided yet if that will keep the android layer or not
[14:44] <suihkulokki> It would certainly be better for the whole ecosystem if canonical put engineers into reverse engineering graphics drivers rather than working on wrapping propiertary android drivers
[14:44] <ogra_> well, that would take a lot longer
[14:45] <darkfader> which means they'd do cool stuff and go bankrupt ;)
[14:45] <ogra_> :)
[14:45] <suihkulokki> a cool but buggy solution
[14:46] <suihkulokki> like ndiswrapper was quick to come but ended up cringing users with cornercase bugs
[14:46] <ogra_> its a quick shot to get as many devices supported as possible so devs can work
[14:46] <ogra_> with 13.10 you will see the first preinstalled devices ... or shortly after
[14:47] <ogra_> and if canonical actually gains some market share there is the possibility to actually push for more opened drivers
[14:48] <ogra_> (i'm pretty sure it wont be hard to surpass BB or Win8 sales for one for the free OSes like FFos or UTouch ... the question is how close either of them comes to anbdroid or iOS in sales to make some actual impact)
[14:49] <darkfader> ogra_: preinstalled drivers, do you think there's a chance of gps and 3g drivers?
[14:49] <darkfader> i know the touch / graphics are much harder on people who use their n7 as a tablet
[14:50] <darkfader> but mine is wallmounted ;)
[14:50] <ogra_> the preinstalled ubuntu touch device will definitely support all builtin sensors, yes
[17:43] <wookey> yeah someone needs to employ luc to get on with the mali drivers
[17:46] <wookey> s'funny how we used to suffer with hardware only coming with windows binary driver support. Now it's the same with android binary driver support, which is slightly better but still quite annoying.
[17:47] <wookey> I'm sure this isn;t where we supposed to end up. something went wrong somewhere along the way
[17:51] <prpplague> ogra_: https://plus.google.com/u/0/101339419642360856354/posts/MFc5mJKUAys
[17:51] <ogra_> heh, just popped up in my stream
[17:52] <ogra_> thanks :)
[17:52] <ogra_> (got you in my circles)
[17:53] <prpplague> ogra_: hehe
[17:53] <prpplague> ogra_: ahh right
[17:54] <ogra_> gma600 is PVR ?
[18:15] <infinity> wookey: The Android binary driver situation isn't even remotely better.  It's just *lucky* that Android happens to be Linux, and we can fudge the situation to our advantage and toss a free userspace on top.
[18:16] <infinity> wookey: But I don't see that as progress, or even "a little better".  We could have done the same thing with a free userspace on top of the NT kernel if we'd wanted to.
[21:55]  * xnox ponders if Android used HURD kernel.....


[09:06] <sakrecoer> intersting: https://uappexplorer.com/app/krita.krita krita 3.0 packaged with snap :)
[09:10] <sakrecoer> i'll try another day.. :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-361/+bug/1587597
[09:14] <zequence> sakrecoer: I don't understand. What does krita has to do with nvidia drivers?
[09:15] <sakrecoer> nothing, but apparently snap can't talk to nvidia atm
[09:15] <sakrecoer> so things installed using snap can't either...
[09:15] <sakrecoer> (as far as i have understood it)
[09:16] <sakrecoer> ^^zequence
[09:18] <sakrecoer> well... krita can use openGL... so i guess it does have something to do with nvidia if you've got an nvidia...
[09:18] <zequence> I still don't see how that has to do with a Krita snap package
[09:18] <zequence> The drivers are installed separately. They are not a dependency to Krita
[09:19] <sakrecoer> well... it didn't work, and i don't seem to be the only one: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/4m3ig8/krita_30_has_been_packed_as_a_snap_package/
[09:20] <zequence> No, I don't think the nvidie drivers affect the open gl version. Open gl is its own lib
[09:20] <zequence> Ah, right. The Krita snap package includes the open gl lib, and the nvidia drivers can't find them - perhaps
[09:20] <sakrecoer> zequence: read the link :) as for the whys and hows... well... you know my levle :D
[09:21] <zequence> Think it's a bigger problem than just nvidia in that case
[09:23] <sakrecoer> maybe, the bug description seems to point at how the nvidia directory is auto-bind-mount:ed
[09:24] <sakrecoer> but like i said: what do i know? except it didn't work and there seems to be a fix on the way :)
[11:29] <sakrecoer> we should now be able to edit help.wiki.com :)
[11:29] <sakrecoer> sorry, i mean http://help.ubuntu.com
[12:14] <zequence> Ah, I probably didn't login with the ubuntumembers team last time
[12:18] <sakrecoer> zequence: no, it was locked for us..
[12:18] <sakrecoer> i had RT give ~ubuntustudio-documentation editing permision on help.ubuntu
[12:24] <zequence> sakrecoer: Yes, but I should have been able to edit last time already
[12:25] <zequence> The ubuntumembers LP team was not toggled when I logged in this time (which I was unable to do, but will try later again)
[13:18] <sakrecoer> i have made a video-tutoiral titlecard mockup... it's a half size and rendered with low raytrace samples... just to give an idea of what it could look like..
[13:19] <sakrecoer> http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/audio0001-0120.avi
[13:19] <sakrecoer> http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/graphics0001-0120.avi
[13:19] <sakrecoer> http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/video0001-0120.avi
[13:19] <sakrecoer> 4 seconds...
[13:20] <sakrecoer> i imagine the title of the tutorial being a png added after the sequence... should be simple, to be easily adapted
[13:21] <sakrecoer> i'll be back later this evening! o/
[16:38] <zequence> sakrecoer: Looks really nice. I only had a look at the first, and the things that sort of make me react were:
[16:38] <zequence> 1) too much grain. It looked a bit too lo-fi
[16:39] <zequence> 2) the second part needs more work (the text for what the tutorial is about)
[16:40] <zequence> The second part needs more juice. A sexier font, and more focus on Audio Tutorials
[16:41] <zequence> The amount of text, on two separate lines, inside 2 seconds, just makes it very obscure
[16:41] <zequence> And, I would probably stretch the time a little bit.
[16:41] <zequence> Just a little
[16:41] <zequence> Other than that, I really do like it a lot
[16:42] <zequence> sakrecoer: I see you are using the wallpaper as background, and if you could also have a look at how to adapt that to our social sites, that would be great
[17:53] <sakrecoer> zequence: 1) is because its a mockup and i put low samples on the raytracer 2) ok :)
[20:39] <zequence> sakrecoer: sorry, I see now that I miswrote earlier. When I said "Audio Tutorials" I was of course only referring to the first video.
[21:17] <zequence> Or, the second part of the first video, that is
[21:39] <sakrecoer> zequence: good :) i'll worj on something :)
[23:11] <geirdal> Than kyou krytarik
[23:13] <krytarik> geirdal: Welcome here as well. :)
[23:13] <geirdal> :)
[23:13] <krytarik> sakrecoer: Please attend! :P
[23:16] <geirdal> what is that?
[23:17] <krytarik> geirdal: ...Either way, thanks for your interest in contributing to Ubuntu Studio.  The project lead.
[23:20] <krytarik> Feel free to ask any questions you have - maybe I can answer them.
[23:23] <geirdal> I think this is the place I should be at, or is it not? Iam a visual digital artist and use multiple software to create my art see here http://www.geirdal.is
[23:26] <geirdal> to follow only one or two open source projects is not enough for me I think this is more interresting, it gor every thing
[23:27] <krytarik> Yeah, that's quite literally true. :P
[23:30] <geirdal> for one image I use: mandelbulber,makehuman,krita,blender, gimp, inkscape and some others to scetch with
[23:31] <geirdal> its imposible to follow them all
[23:34] <sakrecoer> hi geirdal :)
[23:34] <sakrecoer> sorry i'm in an afk room :|
[23:34] <sakrecoer> but i read :)
[23:34] <geirdal> hi, ok
[23:35] <sakrecoer> this is one of the places you should be at, yes.
[23:37] <sakrecoer> ubuntustudio is a human version of debian multimedia...
[23:37] <geirdal> ok tell me more
[23:38] <sakrecoer> if you want your machine to be perfect, you might be better of follow debian. if you want your cousin, your brother and maybe even your mothers machine to be perfect ubuntu studio is the place
[23:39] <sakrecoer> however, anything you do here, will benefit all those who want there own perosnal machine to be perfect
[23:40] <sakrecoer> because all we do here, is repackage deian packages :)
[23:40] <sakrecoer> s/deian/debian
[23:41] <sakrecoer> we do not only repackage it, we make it work out of the box for anyone to enjoy freedom of computing by the people for the poeple
[23:44] <sakrecoer> so yea, you are right, we go for eveything. or everyone, from mothers to robots
[23:44] <geirdal> Iam new to linux, about a year ago I was using windows then I realised that all software that I was using floss and was for linux, then I switch to linux but I dint find my distro at first but *I think I am home.
[23:44] <sakrecoer> home is where your heart is at
[23:45] <geirdal> I am at home
[23:45] <sakrecoer> :)
[23:45] <sakrecoer> welcome geirdal !
[23:45] <geirdal> :)
[23:47] <sakrecoer> you from island, geirdal ?
[23:48] <geirdal> iceland yes
[23:49] <geirdal> you?
[23:49] <sakrecoer> velkomnir
[23:50] <sakrecoer> right now from sweden :)
[23:50] <geirdal> Þakka þér fyrir
[23:50] <sakrecoer> but we you and all of #us-d have the earth in common :)
[23:50] <geirdal> but originaly
[23:50] <geirdal> true
[23:51] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: The two applications geirdal meantioned that we don't have right now are: a) in our repos and b) unique enough in purpose and use that they wopuld not be duplicating what we already have.
[23:52] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: I would suggest adding them to our feature tree if it is still before freeze (feature)
[23:53] <sakrecoer> well, do we still have the arsit card laying around somewhere? :D i guess i should read my mail, but i will do that tomorrow early ;)
[23:53] <sakrecoer> s/arsit/artist
[23:54] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer: where is the feature deffinition?
[23:54] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: this one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/FeatureDefinitions
[23:56] <OvenWerks> Huh, would those be graphics or video? Or one each? I guess makehuman is video.
[23:57] <sakrecoer> but at this point this is a good link: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/topic-y-ubuntustudio ... althou i realized missed the "new" meta propositions...
[23:57] <sakrecoer> makehuman is graphics
[23:58] <geirdal> make human is not video it is 3d software to creat almost ready made 3d human mesh
[23:58] <sakrecoer> makehuman is delicious
[23:58] <geirdal> witch Blender does not
[23:59] <geirdal> but you always have to take that mesh in to blender
[23:59] <sakrecoer> YES! and mekahuman gives a delicious "export to blender" function... it even gives you face animation, so you can make your "human" speak :D...
[23:59] <OvenWerks> Right. I am not a graphic artist :)


[00:07] <n-iCe> thanks
[01:04] <Apsalar> Hi, I'm in the middle of installing Xubuntu (Heron) from a LiveCD, and I have some questions:
[01:06] <Apsalar> My hard disk was corrupted, by physical damage (air travel) I believe, so I'd like multiple partitions, in case the disk is partially unusable
[01:07] <Apsalar> I have 6.4 GB to divide; Q1: what is the minimum size for the primary partition?
[01:08] <Apsalar> Q2: the primary partition should go at the beginning, right?
[01:29] <Apsalar> I'm logging off, but if someone could answer, I'll be checking the logs.
[01:30] <Apsalar> Thanks!
[03:59] <mib_5hjkbn> Hello
[03:59] <mib_5hjkbn> I keep getting SQUASHFS errors when trying to install using the live CD
[03:59] <mib_5hjkbn> "SQUASHFS error: Unable to read fragment cache block"
[04:00] <mib_5hjkbn> "loop0: read i/o error"
[04:00] <mib_5hjkbn> Cannot open /dev/tty0
[04:00] <mib_5hjkbn> and Input/Output error
[04:00] <mib_5hjkbn> Could this be a problem with the memory
[04:00] <mib_5hjkbn> ?
[04:16] <Furkle> was wondering if someone could help me, was trying to set up an eggdrop and I'm getting a "TCL cannot be found on this system" error
[08:30] <chowder> watashi wa reonarudo desu. dozou yoroshiku
[08:31] <chowder> feck, wrong channel
[08:31] <chowder> anyways, I was wondering if any1 could answer my question: what's the difference between installing xfce on ubuntu and just installing Xubuntu?
[08:36] <chowder> bump
[08:36] <chowder> anyways, I was wondering if any1 could answer my question: what's the difference between installing xfce on ubuntu and just installing Xubuntu?
[08:49] <chowder> any1?
[08:49] <chowder> anyways, I was wondering if any1 could answer my question: what's the difference between installing xfce on ubuntu and just installing Xubuntu?
[08:49] <chowder> bump bump bump
[09:05] <sambo_the_ninja> has anyone experienced any problems with awn and the shiny switcher? I only want two workspaces but forces me to have 4 :-(
[09:50]  * MatBoy is away: MatBoy Hides ;)
[09:52]  * MatBoy is back (gone 00:01:52)
[11:06] <rainleong> hi, all.
[11:07] <rainleong> has anyone after upgraded xubuntu 8.04 from 7.10 got randomly crash?
[11:08] <rainleong> I am suffer on this problem.
[11:10] <KillerOrca> rainleong: fraid not
[11:10] <KillerOrca> rainleong: any other details you can give?
[11:11] <rainleong> I got three problems after upgrade hardy.
[11:11] <rainleong> first, when I use vlc play .divx file.
[11:11] <rainleong> os will crash after few seconds.
[11:12] <KillerOrca> rainleong: and it is only .divx and only vlc?
[11:12] <rainleong> yes, seems gstreamer bug.
[11:13] <rainleong> .divx work fine on mplayer
[11:13] <KillerOrca> rainleong:did you install vlc from packages?
[11:13] <rainleong> yes, i did
[11:13] <rainleong> I install vlc by apt-get
[11:14] <rainleong> second problem,  I can't create desktop launcher.
[11:15] <KillerOrca> did you install before or after the update?
[11:16] <rainleong> no
[11:17] <KillerOrca> rainleong: not really a yes no question...
[11:18] <rainleong> I don't try reinstall after I upgrade 8.04
[11:18] <KillerOrca> rainleong: well I would suggest doing an 'apt-get --purge remove vlc'
[11:19] <KillerOrca> then reinstall it
[11:19] <rainleong> ok, I try this.
[11:19] <rainleong> then,
[11:19] <rainleong> second problem is I can't create desktop launcher.
[11:19] <rainleong> every time I key in something in the textfile call "Name"
[11:19] <KillerOrca> rainleong: I use the command line almost exclusively
[11:20] <KillerOrca> rainleong: I don't even know what a launcher is
[11:20] <rainleong> the frame will close automatically.
[11:21] <rainleong> now I have to edit a .desktop file manually
[11:21] <rainleong> to create desktop launcher.
[11:22] <rainleong> this problem seem happened in xubunu 6.10.
[11:22] <KillerOrca> rainleong: sorry I really don't know about this
[11:22] <rainleong> I was expirence on this case when I use xubuntu 6.10
[11:23] <rainleong> after I upgrade 7.04, then until 7.10. the problem not happen again.
[11:23] <rainleong> but I upgraded 8.04 from 7.10.
[11:24] <rainleong> the problem return.
[11:24] <KillerOrca> rainleong: I use practically only the command line, so I can't help
[11:25] <rainleong> oh, then the last problem is
[11:25] <rainleong> I got random crash after upgrade 8.04.
[11:25] <rainleong> my os crash
[11:26] <KillerOrca> rainleong: and this happens how often?
[11:26] <rainleong> maybe one day. maybe one day twice.
[11:27] <KillerOrca> rainleong: I haven't had any random crashes, so I would google it
[11:27] <rainleong> the crash seem depend on the cpu loading is higher.
[11:27] <homebrewcider> can someone please tell me how to make it so that when I open my file manager, thunar, it starts in a fully maximised way
[11:28] <KillerOrca> homebrewcider: don't really use the GUI, sorry
[11:28] <rainleong> I did.
[11:56] <stothepizzle> if i'm creating a swap partition on an xubuntu install should it be primary or logical
[12:15] <godlygeek> stothepizzle: either one is fine.
[13:04] <voodoo> i need some help with ssh keys: i get this error; http://paste.ubuntu.com/13287/
[13:11] <godlygeek> voodoo: change the 'ssh-agent' line to 'eval `ssh-agent`' and it will work.
[13:12] <godlygeek> the ssh-agent command starts an agent, and prints out the variables you need to access that agent out in shell-script form...
[13:12] <godlygeek> you can either set them by hand, then, or use 'eval' on the output to set them for you.
[13:13] <voodoo> oh... till know i was using only ssh-agent (without eval)
[13:29] <Agnostic> Does the download of xubuntu have a live cd ... try before you decide to install option?
[13:39] <homebrewcider> 	can someone help me get thunar to start maximised every time please.
[13:40] <gabkdlly> homebrewcider: hi
[13:40] <gabkdlly> you could just stretch it big and then it should start to those dimensions every time you start it
[13:40] <homebrewcider> hi
[13:42] <homebrewcider> but it doesn't
[13:42] <homebrewcider> it starts smaller every time
[13:42] <homebrewcider> small every time
[13:43] <gnnarin> hi how can i install the new qt version?
[14:08] <gabkdlly> homebrewcider: don't maximize with the button inthe upper right-hand corner, rather stretch the window by clicking on the edge and dragging
[14:09] <homebrewcider> ah, that worked
[14:09] <homebrewcider> cheers
[14:09] <gabkdlly> :)
[14:09] <homebrewcider> i was double-clicking the title bar as i always do
[14:09] <gabkdlly> ah
[14:11] <homebrewcider> the maximise icon did the same as double clicking, that is, the setting wasn't "sticking"
[14:11] <homebrewcider> but the stretch thing "sticks"
[14:11] <homebrewcider> thanx
[14:11] <homebrewcider> ok, I'm outta here, have a good one
[14:46] <gestahlt> Hi!
[14:59] <gestahlt> I have interest in Linux cluster solutions. I want to talk to ppl with similar interest or experience in that matter.
[14:59] <gestahlt> anyone here?
[15:03] <cody-somerville> Hi
[15:04] <voodoo> i have a small problem with ssh-keys... since i've updated openssh i cannot log in usign keys... i tried regenerating the keys
[15:04] <voodoo> no luck
[15:06] <gestahlt> vodoo, im redoing my pxeroot for that reason right now
[15:07] <gestahlt> got frustrated
[15:07] <voodoo> do you know what's the problem?
[15:07] <gestahlt> Hm. Mine was that i couldnt launch the ssh server anymore
[15:07] <gestahlt> how did yours happen?
[15:07] <voodoo> for me ssh-server works... it asks for password instead of launching bash
[15:08] <voodoo> (on remote machine)
[15:08] <gestahlt> got a password?
[15:08] <voodoo> yes
[15:08] <gestahlt> or just want to use your keys instead of logging in manually?
[15:08] <voodoo> but and it works with password... i need the keys... i'm running some commands on remote machine
[15:09] <voodoo> and i want them done automatically without logging on the machine
[15:09] <gestahlt> how about replacing them instead of regenerating?
[15:09] <gestahlt> if you know the password it should be easy to make new ones and send them over
[15:09] <voodoo> i deleted all my keys first
[15:10] <voodoo> and then created new ones
[15:10] <voodoo> (both on remote and local machine)
[15:11] <gestahlt> and whats the issue then?
[15:11] <voodoo> i don't know.... that's i'm trying to find out... why I cannot loggin on the remote machine using the RSA keys
[15:12] <gestahlt> path / users are correct?
[15:12] <gestahlt> checked the config?
[15:13] <voodoo> everything used to work before updating open-ssh... i didn't check the config... le' me see
[15:16] <gestahlt> lemme know if u find something. I have to do that stuff later too
[15:17] <voodoo> gestahlt, everything seems to be fine
[15:18] <gestahlt> the keys are in the proper directories referenced to the config?
[15:19] <gestahlt> uh in the config
[15:19] <voodoo> yes
[15:20] <gestahlt> restarted the ssh server?
[15:20] <voodoo> i connected to remote machine, checked the config, restarted the server, tried logging on that machine using keys and ssh localhost (worked),
[15:21] <gestahlt> hmmm
[15:21] <voodoo> but establishing a remote ssh connection using keys doesn't work
[15:21] <gestahlt> hosts.allow hosts.deny in order?
[15:21] <gestahlt> nah
[15:21] <gestahlt> doesnt make sense
[15:21] <gestahlt> since u can connect
[15:21] <gestahlt> hrm
[15:22] <gestahlt> ah
[15:22] <gestahlt> in the config
[15:22] <gestahlt> disable password
[15:22] <gestahlt> lemme check the line
[15:24] <gestahlt> comment out passwordAuthentication
[15:24] <gestahlt> in sshd.conf
[15:24] <voodoo> its commented already
[15:24] <voodoo> *it's
[15:24] <gestahlt> how can you access with password then?
[15:25] <voodoo> i don't know... maybe it should be no
[15:25] <voodoo> (it's the default option)
[15:25] <gestahlt> I hope you have physical acess to your remote
[15:26] <gestahlt> so that you will have acess
[15:26] <voodoo> yes... i have...
[15:26] <gestahlt> So you givin it a try?
[15:27] <voodoo> permission denied
[15:27] <voodoo> :)
[15:27] <voodoo> i tried to connect
[15:27] <voodoo> got permission denied (public key)
[15:29] <gestahlt> okay
[15:29] <gestahlt> now we a bit closer
[15:39] <gestahlt> what you doing right now vodoo?
[17:44] <suriro> anyone having random freezes with Thunderbird? while browsing newsgroups
[17:59] <suriro> I installed xscreensaver, and it's started at login instead of gnome-screensaver. But screen saver plugin in settings manager still invokes gnome-screensaver
[19:47] <stothepizzle> can i write a script to take a screenshot once every minute?
[19:48] <TheSheep> stothepizzle: yes
[19:48] <TheSheep> stothepizzle: look at ImageMagick's 'import' command
[19:48] <stothepizzle> ok thanks
[20:20] <kRiMe8> hi all any eee pc users in here?
[20:25] <kRiMe8> ay one here got 8.04 heron on a eee Pc?
[20:27] <Turbo> can anyonehelp me with a network problem?
[20:28] <Turbo> I just can´t connect to internet pls help
[20:29] <godlygeek> Turbo: try #ubuntu
[20:29] <godlygeek> Turbo: this channel is more for xubuntu-specific issues; the networking framework of ubuntu and xubuntu are the same.
[20:29] <Turbo> ok thanks
[20:30] <godlygeek> no problem.
[21:30] <home_> hi
[21:31] <home_> !xubuntu
[21:39] <cody-somerville> Hi
[21:41] <TheSheep> hi cody-somerville
[21:41] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: packing for Prague?
[21:41] <cody-somerville> TheSheep, I'm already in Prague :)
[21:42] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: oh wow
[21:42] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: I didn't make it
[21:42] <cody-somerville> No?! :(
[21:42] <cody-somerville> There is still till the end of the week!
[21:42] <TheSheep> cody-somerville: sorry, I had two other conferences recently and my budget got tight
[21:42] <cody-somerville> You won't be able to make it?
[21:42]  * cody-somerville nods.
[21:42] <cody-somerville> No problem.
[21:42] <cody-somerville> You can still participate remotely via voip and IRC. :)
[21:55] <violinappren> hi all, i'm running hardy, i  did an apt-get install xfce and in Settings Manager i selected the Human theme yet Thunar shows most files with blank icons, any idea?
[21:56] <TheSheep> there was something like that in the thunar faq...
[21:57] <violinappren> i read the one at http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/documentation/faq but echo $XSETTINGS returns empty
[21:57] <violinappren> even though xfce-mcs-manager is running
[21:58] <TheSheep> is xfce4-session running too?
[21:58] <kpel> hi all
[21:59] <violinappren> TheSheep: yeap
[21:59] <TheSheep> violinappren: the icons look like those on that screenshot in faq?
[22:00] <kpel> is there a way to have an unmount option in the desktop icons in Hardy for storage devices? For some reason this release has only an eject option.
[22:00] <violinappren> TheSheep: yes except for a djvu file and an audacity project file
[22:00] <violinappren> pdfs, mp3s, archives all blank
[22:01] <wickers> hey, I
[22:01] <wickers> I'm using cheese with my build in webcam
[22:01] <TheSheep> violinappren: do you have the gnome-icon-theme installed?
[22:02] <wickers> it usually works fine, but as of today when cheese tries to access the cam (cam's light goes on, so I know it has hardware access), cheese then hard locks the system (not just X11, but system wide lock)
[22:02] <wickers> any idea?
[22:02] <violinappren> if i switch to the rodent theme, the icons show up
[22:02] <wickers> running xubuntu on an eeepc
[22:02] <violinappren> let me check
[22:03] <TheSheep> violinappren: I think the human theme only has a few icons and falls back to gnome for the rest
[22:03] <violinappren> TheSheep: well i'm installing it
[22:03] <TheSheep> wickers: no idea, but you could ask on #ubuntu or look at the forums, as this is a more general issue, common to all ubuntus
[22:04] <TheSheep> wickers: at least so it seems
[22:04] <wickers> fair
[22:04] <wickers> figured I'd start here, in case this was a recent update or something that affects people using xfce
[22:04] <TheSheep> I think there was a channel for eee users spicifically too, someone might know something there
[22:16] <violinappren_> works now, thanks guys
[22:40] <Vaxz> Salut
[23:24] <hazard1nc> sup all :)
[23:25] <hazard1nc> i was wondering about custom icon themes and howto install them, is there a tutorial in the wiki i am missing?
[23:28] <TheSheep> just unpack them to ~/.icons
[23:28] <hazard1nc> cool, thanks :)


[17:45] <traviscline> where does upstart hold its state? i'm running into issues where one a job isn't detected as starting properly any start/stop hangs
[17:45] <traviscline> unless I change my job name
[17:45] <traviscline> (0.6.5)
[17:46] <traviscline> i think my process is forking too many times as the pid upstart thinks it is/was didn't sitcka round
[17:50] <traviscline> wish there were some effort put into getting some updated documentation
[17:50] <traviscline> esp re: how to debug your scripts
[18:12] <ion> Yeah, that’s a known problem. Better not use ‘expect’ unless you’re completely sure of the forking behavior of your main program. A future release of Upstart will come with a better implementation of following forks.
[18:12] <ion> The state’s in memory.
[19:04] <Guest33795> Hello
[19:09] <Guest33795> i like to know how to change the key combinations Ctrl Alt DEL
[19:10] <Guest33795> nobody can not repondre me
[19:14] <traviscline> Guest33795: this isn't the correct channel for that question
[19:14] <traviscline> ion: so for now, if it double-forks, I can't use upstart to manage it?
[19:14] <traviscline> correct?
[19:15] <ion> ‘expect daemon’ follows a main process that forks twice.
[19:29] <traviscline> hrm
[19:30] <traviscline> in my case the stop will then hang when the pid is not actually a running process
[19:30] <traviscline> then any7 subsequent start/stop hangs
[19:31] <ion> Yeah, the current functionality gets confused very easily if the main process behaves differently than what the ‘expect’ stanza says.