[07:56] <Hoarde> prince_jammys: why is it called "Sessions" ?
[07:56] <GiddyKong> thanks :D
[07:56] <Hoarde> oh... done... Brb
[07:56] <david> GiddyKong: reenable them ;)
[07:56] <ankitj> phix:compaq
[07:56] <decay> nickrud: get 3 things listed
[07:56] <COWOK> sam
[07:56] <Dr_willis> !rar  | thirdy
[07:56] <ubotu> thirdy: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:56] <prince_jammys> Hoarde: each time you login it's called a "session"
[07:56] <GiddyKong> ummm alt+f2 isnt working
[07:57] <nickrud> decay: ok.  sudo modprobe -r bcm43xx
[07:57] <phix> ankitj: ok, apt-get install bridge-utils on that computer
[07:57] <ankitj> phix:i have set ad-hoc on both,then..
[07:57] <Fri13> thirdy: Gnome default, file-roller, install unrar package.
[07:57] <phix> ankitj: the compaq
[07:57] <ankitj> phix:only on one?
[07:57] <decay> nickrud: ok. now wireless light went from blue to red
[07:57] <ankitj> phix:ok
[07:57] <phix> yes
[07:57] <hellmoj> will someone plz meg so I can see if this is working
[07:57] <decay> nickrud: however, computer froze
[07:57] <Dr_willis> hellmoj,  whats working?
[07:57] <tyguaike> 有中国人吗
[07:57] <nickrud> decay: next, froze?
[07:58] <nickrud> !cn | tyguaike
[07:58] <david> tyguaike: english only
[07:58] <ubotu> tyguaike: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[07:58] <decay> yea, let me reboot
[07:58] <hellmoj> I'm new and didnt know if it was working
[07:58] <david> decay: whan nic is that?
[07:58] <amazing> 有阿
[07:58] <ankitj> phix:done,now..
[07:58] <tyguaike> 强人，你好
[07:58] <amazing> 呵呵
[07:58] <kruqnu1> hmmm
[07:58] <tyguaike> 你也是用ubuntu吗
[07:58] <amazing> 恩
[07:59] <decay> nickrud: network interface card?
[07:59] <Daisuke_Ido> !en | amazing and tyguaike
[07:59] <ubotu> amazing and tyguaike: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:59] <david> !cn | amazing tyguaike
[07:59] <nickrud> !en | amazing tyguaike
[07:59] <ubotu> amazing tyguaike: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[07:59] <ubotu> amazing tyguaike: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[07:59] <nickrud> decay: huh?
[07:59] <decay> nickrud: what do you mean nic?
[07:59] <david> what brand/model
[07:59] <prince_jammys> network interface card
[08:00] <david> I'm thinking D-link
[08:00] <prince_jammys> oh oops, i see it's already up there
[08:00] <kruqnu1> googling
[08:00] <tyguaike> 刚刚哪个中国人呢
[08:00] <googling> kruqnu1: yes
[08:00] <tyguaike> 我怎么加不了你为好友呢
[08:00] <ankitj> phix:i installed bridge-utils
[08:00] <kruqnu1> i am reading of people getting this error but still being able to connect the other way
[08:00] <decay> nickrud: ok i rebooted
[08:00] <kruqnu1> like from xp to samba
[08:01] <decay> do you want me to type those commands again?
[08:01] <david> tyguaike and ankitj: english please
[08:01] <kruqnu1> so how do i setup a samba server or whatever and gconnect to it from windows?
[08:01] <phix> ankitj: ok, on the compaq type in sudo brctl addbr br0; sudo brctl addif br0 eth0; sudo brctl addif br0 eth1; sudo killall dhclient; sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> up; sudo ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> up; sudo dhclient br0
[08:01] <thinman1189> "From the beginning of the project Linux Mint quickly became popular and is now among
[08:01] <thinman1189> the most used PC operating system in the World." Someone has got to be high.
[08:01] <phix> ankitj: then on your other laptop type in sudo dhclient eth1
[08:01] <phix> enjoy
[08:01] <nickrud> decay: don't see myself saying nic :) But anyway, after you've got back to a working state, go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy#head-2f53cc3bbd7c0523ad825683c82e32d48d5bd6db and do steps 3 and for (after the or, the direct wget part)
[08:01] <tyguaike> amazing在吗
[08:01] <phix> ankitj: ok, on the compaq type in sudo brctl addbr br0; sudo brctl addif br0 eth0; sudo brctl addif br0 eth1; sudo killall dhclient; sudo ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> up; sudo ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> up; sudo dhclient br0
[08:02] <IndyGunFreak> thinman1189: lol, that does seem to be a stretch
[08:02] <david> decay: what brand and model of Card are you using?
[08:02] <tumbl3r> e.org
[08:02] <ankitj> phix:what does this do,for my fyi?
[08:02] <phix> I cant get sound or LAN working on my laptop (ASUS F3S, 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0), 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03, Ubuntu 07.10, Kernel 2.6.22)
[08:02] <googling> kruqnu1: here's a link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[08:02] <decay> nickrud:  oh sorry it was david
[08:02] <ankitj> phix:i ma concerned for my eth0..
[08:02] <phix> ankitj: sets up a bridge
[08:02] <phix> ankitj: links eth0 and eth1 into one virtual network card
[08:02] <decay> david: not sure. its a broadcom wireless, bcm4311
[08:03] <phix> ankitj: this is needed so your other laptop can get an IP address from your ADSL router / modem
[08:03] <david> decay: it's an internal nic?
[08:03] <thinman1189> IndyGunFreak: it's from the history section of their user guide. I thought I'd try it out on my laptop for fun but I don't like being lied to..
[08:03] <ankitj> phix:ok
[08:03] <phix> ankitj: you have DHCP enabled on your adsl router / modem right?
[08:03] <decay> david: yes laptop
[08:03] <david> aha
[08:03] <decay> nickrud: so i have to type thos commands again before doing that, right?
[08:03] <david> decay: what brand of laptop?
[08:03] <IndyGunFreak> thinman1189: yah, its a good distro though
[08:03] <decay> david: compaq f730us
[08:03] <tyguaike> 还有中国的吗？我刚装的ubuntu用起来感觉真爽。呵呵。
[08:03] <nickrud> decay: bring david up to speed
[08:03] <phix> ankitj: if all else fails just reboot, it wont save the settings
[08:03] <david> for crying out loud tyguaike
[08:03] <phix> ankitj: once it works then you can edit /etc/network/interfaces and add it in there
[08:04] <IndyGunFreak> thinman1189: it fills a void for users scared to use a distro that doesn't hav emultimedia support "out of the box", and the GUI sucks to(but that can be changed)
[08:04] <decay> nickrud: ok. david broadcom wireless, bcm43xx rev 02
[08:04] <googling> kruqnu1: you'll need to set the domain to VILLAIRE
[08:04] <nickrud> !en | tyguaike (last warning) amazing please translate if needed
[08:04] <ubotu> tyguaike (last warning) amazing please translate if needed: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:04] <decay> david: tried using both with ndiswrapper and fwcutter but no go
[08:04] <magnetron> !jp | tyguaike
[08:04] <ubotu> tyguaike: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい
[08:04] <magnetron> !zh | tyguaike
[08:04] <ubotu> tyguaike: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[08:05] <decay> nickrud: so, before doing server install, do i run all those commands you typed before?
[08:05] <tyguaike> ubuntu use QQ?
[08:05] <magnetron> tyguaike: yes.
[08:05] <thinman1189> IndyGunFreak: seems like it. That's sort of why I was trying it out. I'm taking AP Comp Sci at school and it's such a joke that the teacher doesn't even know what Linux is. I'm trying to find something I can give the class that will just work "out of the box." As much as I like ubuntu, and doubt I'd change anytime soon, some of these kids don't even know the keyboard short cuts to cut and paste...
[08:05] <nickrud> decay: you've already got the fwcutter, you should only need to wget the firmware bundle and then run bcm43xx-fwcutter as in step 4
[08:05] <tyguaike> config ?
[08:06] <magnetron> tyguaike: use the program called "Pidgin"
[08:06] <decay> nickrud: but when i wrote modproble -r <something> it froze, remember?
[08:06] <tyguaike> use pidgin can't login
[08:06] <nickrud> decay: that's why I picked up at the web page.
[08:07] <magnetron> tyguaike: add a new account, choose type "QQ" in the list
[08:07] <decay> nickrud: ok. i just typed it again and didnt' freeze
[08:07] <david> decay: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=643195&highlight=f700&page=4
[08:07] <tyguaike> i try a gain
[08:07] <david> best I could find
[08:07] <zero88> How would i go about making my own theme like the themes on gnome-look.org
[08:07] <nickrud> decay: ok. Then after you've done the 2 web page steps, sudo modprobe bcm43xx
[08:07] <decay> david: i couldn't even ge tthat far. when i do iwconfig, it says wireless point is invalid
[08:08] <IndyGunFreak> thinman1189: i don't know, maybe their claim has some validity.
[08:08] <david> decay: you just want to use it as a normal "client" right?
[08:08] <decay> nickrud: done. light went from red to blue again
[08:08] <decay> david: not sure what that means but sounds right
[08:08] <david> regular use
[08:08] <thinman1189> IndyGunFreak: how so?
[08:09] <david> no hosting or whatnot
[08:09] <nickrud> decay: you did the wget, the bcm43xx-fwcutter -w ?
[08:09] <uptownben> I'm having a little trouble changing my screen resolution, I just installed Ubuntu 7.10 desktop on a VMware VM, when I try to reduce the resolution nothing happens even after reboot, any ideas?
[08:09] <IndyGunFreak> thinman1189: you figure.. MS OS's will be a large majority, then Apple, then various forums of linux, so if its int he top side of Linx distros used, it could be one of "the most used"...   http://distrowatch.com/
[08:09] <decay> nickrud: no not yet. i have to take the laptop downstairs and connect with a wire, brb
[08:09] <steve176> hi. I want to create a shared directory '/var/maven2/repository'. any user should be able to add/modify/delete any files beneath this directory. Is there a way to override the users default permissions that will enable them to do this?
[08:10] <decay> nickrud: are you getting me to do the server install?
[08:10] <thinman1189> IndyGunFreak: Yeah I noticed it was in the top 10. But I'm sure there's a huge difference in users of ubuntu and mint, or gentoo.
[08:10] <nickrud> decay: it's just another way of installing the firmware.
[08:10] <IndyGunFreak> thinman1189: oh no doubt about it...
[08:10] <decay> nickrud: alright. brb
[08:10] <IndyGunFreak> but ti is probably more popular than most of us realize
[08:11] <Draco> steve176: chown it to the users group, and chmod all with x6x or x7x
[08:14] <ankitj_> phix:hi
[08:14] <tyguaike> 哈喽，有中国人吗
[08:14] <ankitj_> phix:after i entered the command ,i was thrown out of network
[08:14] <tyguaike> 没有讲中文的多没意思
[08:15] <biabia_> is there a command to tell what filesystem the hdd is set to? ext2 ext3 or whatever
[08:15] <kittykitty> obfusco: thanks for the help, i finally got it working
[08:15] <ankitj_> phix:ping command said :operation not permitted
[08:15] <tyguaike> >:o
[08:15] <david> biabia_: fdisk -l ?
[08:16] <david> biabia_: sorry that was wrong :P
[08:16] <TEXASDEATHRIDE> Sup?
[08:16] <prince_jammys> no, that works
[08:16] <biabia_> as root it gives some data but not precisely what i need
[08:17] <steve176> Draco: After chown owner is 'root:users' and chmod is '575' recursively, but now cannot create new directories or files
[08:17] <david> biabia_: my brain just stopped
[08:17] <david> I know this.. :/
[08:17] <TEXASDEATHRIDE> david, you entered two periods.
[08:17] <tyguaike> o
[08:17] <TEXASDEATHRIDE> That's a bad practice.
[08:17] <prince_jammys> you could just type "mount"
[08:18] <biabia_> ya
[08:18] <prince_jammys> that will show you everything that's currently mounted, filesystem and so on
[08:18] <TEXASDEATHRIDE> ASL?
[08:18] <uptownben> Does 7.10 have problems with changing resolution?
[08:19] <david> TEXASDEATHRIDE: 13/f/texas
[08:19] <prince_jammys> !ot
[08:19] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:19] <TEXASDEATHRIDE> LOL FBI, BYE
[08:19] <biabia_> thanks
[08:19] <david> ;)
[08:20] <sanjeev_> phix:now,i m on dell
[08:21] <Hoarde> kay.... I'm running xubuntu which seems ok, but now all my fonts for apps are really really small (like size 6-7) I did the Settings->User Interface Preferences and increased it (which helped reading the menu's) but everything in firefox/xchat etc is still small
[08:21] <Hoarde> My screen is a spare 22" dell (1680x1050)
[08:21] <sanjeev_> phix:now i can do some experiments on this machine
[08:22] <prince_jammys> Hoarde: maybe your screen resolution is too high
[08:22] <Hoarde> even the terminal thing (where you type in commands) is small
[08:22] <TEXASDEATHRIDE>  SSSSS  HH   HH IIIII TTTTTTT  BBBBB     AAA   LL      LL       SSSSS
[08:22] <TEXASDEATHRIDE> SS      HH   HH  III    TTT    BB   B   AAAAA  LL      LL      SS
[08:22] <TEXASDEATHRIDE>  SSSSS  HHHHHHH  III    TTT    BBBBBB  AA   AA LL      LL       SSSSS
[08:22] <Hoarde> surely I can just change the default font size?
[08:22] <anidkl> nick andikl
[08:22] <TEXASDEATHRIDE>      SS HH   HH  III    TTT    BB   BB AAAAAAA LL      LL           SS
[08:22] <TEXASDEATHRIDE>  SSSSS  HH   HH IIIII   TTT    BBBBBB  AA   AA LLLLLLL LLLLLLL  SSSSS
[08:22] <prince_jammys> Hoarde: i don't know how to change that in xubuntu, but it sounds like your screen res is too high, if everything shrunk
[08:23] <sanjeev_> phix:i m logged in as sanjeev_ on dell
[08:23] <Hoarde> ... This is so hard! *pulls hair out*
[08:23] <hp> any one knows where i can find this file bcmwl5.inf?
[08:24] <SunsparcSolaris> Im having trouble with my crontab. "19 3  * * * /home/brandon/heyuwakeup" will absolutely not execute.
[08:24] <Blinkiz> Am looking for a download manager that can split downloads up in parts. I get higher speed this way. Under Windows it exist many program but I have only found one under linux, Aria. On my computer, Aria is damaging my downloads. Anyone that can recommend another download manager?
[08:24] <SunsparcSolaris> I have another script in my home dir that will execute with a similar command location
[08:25] <Hoarde> I'm gonna get some beer... that should help
[08:25] <prince_jammys> Hoarde: excellent idea
[08:26] <SunsparcSolaris> Someone know why one command will execute from crontab but not another? >_>
[08:27] <decay> nickrud: fail =(
[08:27] <nickrud> decay: the fwcutting or the wireless?
[08:27] <decay> wireless
[08:28] <steve176> decay - what laptop do you have?
[08:30] <decay> Steve compaq f730
[08:33] <nickrud> decay: Well, I've pretty much exhausted my wireless skills.
[08:34] <wasabi__> is there any way to run the gnome run application dialog if you're running a windows manager other than metacity?
[08:34] <PinkFloyd102489> nickrud: Could you help me with a crontab problem?
[08:34] <tyguaike> 有中国人来了吗
[08:34] <nickrud> PinkFloyd102489: actually I'm heading for bed.
[08:34] <decay> nickrud: it's alright. thanks very much for the help
[08:35] <PinkFloyd102489> nickrud: alright
[08:35] <steve176> decay: sorry, got wireless working last week with a dell 1525
[08:35] <steve176> decay: took best part of 3 days :(
[08:35] <wasabi__> anyone?
[08:35] <Dr_willis> wasabi__,  there are alternative 'run command' dialog program out there. :) i dont knwo if gnomes is a specific app or not. but others do exist
[08:35] <decay> Steve congrats =( ive spent all day today =/
[08:35] <wasabi__> Dr_willis, hmm i've been trying to search for it but it doesn't work
[08:35] <wasabi__> i mean i can't find them
[08:36] <Dr_willis> I recall one for blackbox i think callee bbrun
[08:36] <Dr_willis> !find bbrun
[08:36] <ubotu> Found: bbrun
[08:36] <Dr_willis> !info bbrun
[08:36] <ubotu> bbrun (source: bbrun): A tool for the blackbox/fluxbox window managers that runs commands. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6-4 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 104 kB
[08:36] <wasabi__> hmm
[08:36] <wasabi__> wow nice
[08:36] <wasabi__> thanks
[08:37] <steve176> decay: I take it you've been round the 7.10 restricted drivers manager root?
[08:38] <decay> Steve: yes. =]
[08:38] <decay> at least 3x actually
[08:38] <decay> i have tried so much stuff that sometimes i just reinstalled, to bring everything to 0 again
[08:38] <steve176> decay: I did that too!
[08:38] <decay> lol
[08:38] <decay> i just want it to work. =[
[08:39] <steve176> decay: what eventually worked for me was this http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/Tech/Wireless/Truemobile_ndiswrapper (however it's a dell document so don't know whether it will work with compaq)
[08:39] <steve176> decay: but even after that there was lots of messing about
[08:40] <wasabi__> what's weird is that i found this. http://gruyere.ucd.ie/~davide/gnome_run.html is was made to invoke run command without metacity running. and it works with blackbox etc, but i can't get it to work with awesomewm
[08:40] <decay> steve176: which card do you have?
[08:41] <steve176> decay: bcm1430 I think (it was for my mum so she's got the laptop now it's working)
[08:41] <decay> ah okay
[08:42] <Guest61793> http://bux.to/?r=ezis15 easy money! SORRY FOR SPAMMING ^^
[08:42] <phix> rargh
[08:42] <phix> I cant get sound or LAN working on my laptop (ASUS F3S, 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0), 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03, Ubuntu 07.10, Kernel 2.6.22)
[08:43] <wasabi__> !info callee
[08:43] <ubotu> Package callee does not exist in gutsy
[08:43] <wasabi__> !info calee
[08:43] <ubotu> Package calee does not exist in gutsy
[08:43] <steve176> decay: sorry bcm4310
[08:44] <decay> steve176:  thanks =)
[08:44] <decay> im gonna stop for tonight. its almost 4am
[08:44] <light50>  /umode -w
[08:44] <frold> anyone using mozilla-vlc-plugin? Howto get the control panel, so I can pause, or go forward?
[08:45] <wasabi__> Dr_willis, thanks for the tip on bbrun
[08:50] <phix> I cant get sound or LAN working on my laptop (ASUS F3S, 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0), 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03, Ubuntu 07.10, Kernel 2.6.22)
[08:50] <Androo> I'm using straight Debian Etch and I'm trying to add http://debian.o-hand.com/unstable to my apt sources.  apt-cache update goes fine, but none of the packages I'm looking for that are in that directory show up.  Need some help.
[08:51] <Daisuke_Ido> Androo: this is #ubuntu, not #debian
[08:52] <Androo> Daisuke_Ido: I realise that.  #debian is pretty useless right now, and Ubuntu has apt.
[08:52] <Daisuke_Ido> doesn't make it the same thing
[08:52] <Daisuke_Ido> mint has apt too, we don't support it either
[08:53] <Rebel_Eclipsed> Greets How can I "force Mount" my window's partition?
[08:53] <decay> nickrud: could i have you files that you got from dell? HP only gives it as a setup file
[08:53] <Daisuke_Ido> but...  instead of apt-cache update, have you tried apt-get update?
[08:53]  * Daisuke_Ido facepalms
[08:53] <Strawberryjam> hehehe :)
[08:54] <Strawberryjam> hahahaha
[08:54] <Strawberryjam> sensitive huh?
[08:54] <Daisuke_Ido> #debian's going to tear him apart.
[08:54] <Strawberryjam> hehe
[08:54] <Daisuke_Ido> let
[08:54] <sioux> :) too early for ubuntu-kernel irc talks?
[08:55] <Daisuke_Ido> stupid enter key...  let's move on from that unfortunate incident...
[08:55] <Rebel_Eclipsed> Daisuke_Ido do you know how I can force mount my windows partition?
[08:55] <Strawberryjam> I am amazed at how much you can learn here by just looking at the screen :)
[08:55] <Badrobot> hi Does anyone in here uses those Huawei/vofafone usb 3G/HSPDA modem?
[08:56] <Dr_willis> ntfs-3g hhas a force option
[08:56] <phix> how is ntfs-3g? good write support yet?
[08:57] <Strawberryjam> i installed gutsy and all my windows partitions is listed and mounted...how did that happen
[08:57] <Daisuke_Ido> phix: writing to ntfs is no longer categorized as "an idea right up there with dousing one's self in brown gravy and getting into a wrestling match with a rabid wolverine"
[08:57] <Daisuke_Ido> so...  it's a lot better
[08:58] <phix> Daisuke_Ido: oh ok, so it is good now?
[08:58] <Dr_willis> ntfs-3g works fine for me.
[08:58] <Strawberryjam> sorry noob here, i just installed and...there it was
[08:58] <Rebel_Eclipsed> Strawberryjam mine was listed and mounted as well, but I had an unclean dismount and now need to force mount it.
[08:58] <pliumbum> hello everybody. I installed ubuntu gutsy through wubi. how can i reach my windows files?
[08:58] <Strawberryjam> oh ok
[08:58] <Rebel_Eclipsed> Dr_willis what is ntfs-3g ??
[08:58] <Daisuke_Ido> phix: it is safe
[08:58] <Strawberryjam> see...you learn every day
[08:58] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[08:58] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:59] <phix> yay
[08:59] <Rebel_Eclipsed> I really dislike windows... but there is one or two programs I use that are not able to run under wine
[08:59] <pliumbum> I assume that ubuntu-wubi works on ntfs, do i need a migration tool?
[08:59] <phix> Dr_willis: how do I get sound and LAN working on my lappy?
[08:59] <Dr_willis> safer then the ext2 driver for windows. :)
[08:59] <Dr_willis> phix,  no idea. :) install the latest alsa drivers if your stuff is not currently supported I guess. :)
[09:00] <phix> Dr_willis: they are
[09:00] <Badrobot> so no one?
[09:00] <Dr_willis> as for lan. No idea. Depends on the chipset. It could be the laptop is so new . the drivers are not in linux yet.
[09:00] <Daisuke_Ido> installed ubuntu for a friend of mine today, dual boot with xp.  everything went great, except for one little problem.  he has a secondary hard drive that is causing ubuntu to not boot.  the only way for him to boot into linux is to disable the drive in the bios
[09:00] <Dr_willis> newer kernel may have  drivers for them
[09:00] <phix> Dr_willis: unless there is a alpha ubuntu package I can use
[09:00] <Dr_willis> phix,  could try a hardy live cd. see if it works with them
[09:00] <phix> Dr_willis: ok
[09:02] <phix> Dr_willis: lspci is telling me it is the same NIC card that is in my desktop
[09:02] <phix> Dr_willis: which works
[09:02] <phix> (ASUS F3S, 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0), 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03, Ubuntu 07.10, Kernel 2.6.22)
[09:02] <Dr_willis> could be you found an actual bug in the nic driver. or the company chaned the chipset or somthing then.
[09:02] <phix> when I load the atl1 drivers / module nothing happens
[09:02] <phix> Dr_willis: yeah
[09:03] <phix> Dr_willis: and the sound card, as you can see, is being picked up as an intel HCD
[09:03] <Dr_willis> La[tops can  really mess things up. :) my old laptop dident have good linux support for   2 releases.
[09:04] <Strawberryjam> I have GUtsy Studio and need to install the upgrade for my emu1212 PCI. All methods listed on alsa and ubuntu forums messes my install...any ideas?
[09:04] <Voltxion> Hello
[09:04] <Tired_> Hello
[09:05] <Tired_> I'm trying to combine two live cds on one bootable SD card.  Can I make Syslinux call isolinux to boot the other cd?
[09:05] <Dr_willis> !hello
[09:05] <Voltxion> Im very new to this, will grub detect my windows XP install when I install Ubuntu onto another drive?
[09:05] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[09:05] <Dr_willis> Tired_,  ive heard of it being done. That Pendrive linux site may have some tips.
[09:05] <Tired_> Hi ubotu
[09:06] <Dr_willis> Voltxion,  yes
[09:06] <Tired_> grub surprises me with how smart it is, often
[09:06] <petrescudan2007>  all
[09:06] <steve176> hi. I'm trying to create a shared directory, with full rw permissions for all users. I tried chown -R root:users and chmod 2775 but I still get permission denied when creating new files.
[09:06] <Voltxion> Thank you
[09:06] <Dr_willis> Its the installer thats doing the smarts.. to configure grub propelry
[09:06] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:06] <tyguaike> leiio
[09:06] <petrescudan2007> hallo,give me help please
[09:07] <Dr_willis> grub is a powerfull flexiable tool. Worth learning all about. :)
[09:07] <Daisuke_Ido> chmod 2775?
[09:07] <petrescudan2007> how can i install trust webcam in ubuntu ultimaye
[09:07] <Dr_willis> !webcam
[09:07] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[09:07] <tyguaike> 有中国在吗
[09:08] <tyguaike> 有中国人在吗
[09:08] <petrescudan2007> grazie
[09:08] <Tired_> i wish i could just use grub to boot my sd card here.  i know how to make it do what I want  :/
[09:08] <steve176> Daisuke_Ido: yes 2775 - I read that in a couple of forums
[09:08] <Daisuke_Ido> !en | tyguaike, ONCE again...
[09:08] <ubotu> tyguaike, ONCE again...: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:08] <tyguaike> god
[09:08] <Tyczek> hi i've got problem with compiling alsa... i was compiling week ago 1.0.16 and it was succesfull... today i had to reinstall ubuntu, i was typing the same as week ago... but there is a problem http://www.wklej.org/id/009d53114e
[09:09] <Daisuke_Ido> steve176: shouldn't it just be 775? (or 777 if you want full permissions for everyone)
[09:09] <Strawberryjam> Tyczek same problem here...trying to get my 1212 emu card to work
[09:10] <jbraddoc> what kind of statement would i need to make a little script run at startup that has like 'if cat state = on-line echo -n 100 > /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness else echo -n 50 > /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness' ?
[09:10] <Tyczek> Strawberryjam, I was thinking... maybe latest patch for kernel messed something
[09:10] <Tyczek> ?
[09:10] <jbraddoc> er let me edit that.
[09:10] <Tired_> grr.  that pendrive linux site is geared more towards users who were previously unaware of live usb
[09:10] <steve176> Daisuke_Ido: I tried that too, however I assume the '2' was to force new files also be created with 775 by default
[09:10] <Strawberryjam> probably...ii'm a noob...good at following instructions but other than that i'm hopeless
[09:11] <jbraddoc> lemme try this one. what kind of statement would i need to make a little script run at startup that has like 'if cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/ACAD/state = on-line echo -n 100 > /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness else echo -n 50 > /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness' ?
[09:11] <Voltxion> The initial '2' sets the sticky bit for group ownership, so any new files created in that directory will now be owned by group
[09:11] <steve176> Daisuke_Ido: In any case it didn't work (but didn't error either)
[09:11] <Strawberryjam> i use studio btw...i'm sure it has to do with RT kernel
[09:11] <Voltxion> steve176: The initial '2' sets the sticky bit for group ownership, so any new files created in that directory will now be owned by the group **
[09:11] <Daisuke_Ido> Voltxion: i learn something new every day :)
[09:11] <jbraddoc> oo wait that would cause other issues, like if i were to override it.
[09:11] <jbraddoc> nvm.. poor planning. i shall be back :/
[09:12] <kinux> someone from romania?
[09:12] <petrescudan2007> romania_
[09:12] <petrescudan2007> kinux_
[09:12] <Starnestommy> !romania
[09:12] <ubotu> Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro
[09:13] <ph8> hey all - is there a new file manager in gutsy to replace nautilus? I thought i remembered hearing about one - if so can anyone link/tell me how to set it up?
[09:13] <Tyczek> http://www.wklej.org/id/6f82f7b1c2
[09:13] <steve176> Voltxion: any idea why I get permission denied when creating a new file? permission on the parent directory is drwxrwxr-x
[09:13] <Starnestommy> ph8: thunar from xfce, konqueror from kde 3.5, or dolphin form kde 4
[09:14] <ph8> is xfce something like gnome/kde?
[09:14] <steve176> Voltxion: owner is root users
[09:14] <Starnestommy> it uses GTK like Gnome
[09:14] <ph8> otherwise i quite fancy dolphin - do you reckon it's possible to get gnome using dolphin by default?
[09:14] <ph8> ah i c
[09:14] <petrescudan2007> fratilor,linux asta ma sparge,sunt atat de prost ca nu stiu sa ma descebalui
[09:14] <Voltxion> steve176: Sorry, i just know the chmod thing from my roomate messing with his webserver
[09:15] <steve176> Voltxion: lol!
[09:15] <petrescudan2007> vorbeste romaneste careva
[09:15] <kinux> eu
[09:15] <Voltxion> steve176: I havent actually completely used linux.. installed it a few times and didnt have time to learn it so I would give up.
[09:15] <ph8> steve176: Do you or your group own the folder?
[09:15] <earthling> steve176: is that folder a mount partition?
[09:15] <petrescudan2007> kinux si tu esti priceput in linux ca si mine_
[09:16] <kinux> nu stiu
[09:16] <petrescudan2007> sunt la furat cu totul
[09:16] <kinux> stiu cate ceva
[09:16] <kinux> da nu sunt expert
[09:16] <petrescudan2007> nu inteleg nimic din limbajul din consola
[09:16] <petrescudan2007> sudo,etc
[09:16] <Daisuke_Ido> !en | kinux petrescudan2007
[09:16] <kinux> :)
[09:16] <ubotu> kinux petrescudan2007: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[09:17] <Starnestommy> #ubuntu-ro is Romanian
[09:17] <kinux> cu sudo poti executa o coanda pentru care trebuie sa fii root
[09:17] <steve176> ph8: ownership is root:users
[09:17] <kinux> tu doar scri sudo in fata
[09:17] <kinux> si apoi o sa iti ceara parola
[09:17] <petrescudan2007> i try to learn sonthing about yours linux,so let me be in peace
[09:17] <Starnestommy> this channel is mainly in english, but everyone in #ubuntu-ro speaks romanian
[09:17] <petrescudan2007> cum pot fi root
[09:17] <steve176> earthling: It's on /var which is on the same volume as root
[09:17] <Daisuke_Ido> petrescudan2007: use the proper language channel for romanian, or speak english in ehre.
[09:18] <Daisuke_Ido> either way works :)
[09:18] <jbraddoc> Okay I am back. What is the easiest way to have an action happen when the ac adapter state changes on a laptop?
[09:18] <wasabi_> does anyone here use awesomewm?
[09:18] <earthling> steve176: exact path?
[09:18] <steve176> /var/maven2
[09:18] <phix> hmmm so any wayu
[09:18] <phix> how many times should I repeat my question?
[09:18] <phix> steve176: java ay
[09:19] <steve176> lol
[09:19] <steve176> maven boo!
[09:19] <petrescudan2007> sorry babe,so i speak english
[09:19] <petrescudan2007> how,i know to speak
[09:20] <Hoarde> so... I've had a couple beers... and resorted back to ubuntu ...
[09:20] <earthling> steve176: beats me! sorry
[09:20] <Hoarde> I've installed VCL media player... how do I make everything default to VLC?
[09:20] <steve176> earthling: thanks. I've read I can do it with acl, but don't want to go there just yet
[09:20] <jbraddoc> I was thinking I could make a script, but I am not sure how. I was going to have it read /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/acad/state and then echo something into /proc/acpi/video/vga/lcd/brightness but then I would also have to have it check timestamps of when the state changed and what not incase i manually changed the brightness my self after the state changed. Like if I unplugged my laptop and I made it darker and plugged it back in, i wouldn't want
[09:20] <jbraddoc>  it to be full brightness.
[09:22] <phix> Hoarde: beers are good
[09:22] <phix> How do I make my sound work?
[09:23] <phix> and my LAN
[09:23] <Starnestommy> depends on what type of LAN and what type of sound card, phix
[09:23] <Strawberryjam> i got S/C probs too phix
[09:23] <phix> Starnestommy --> ASUS F3S, 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Attansic Technology Corp. L1 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter (rev b0), 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03, Ubuntu 07.10, Kernel 2.6.22
[09:24] <Strawberryjam> there is a full explanation in the forums on that card phix...
[09:24] <Strawberryjam> uh your S/C
[09:25] <phix> Starnestommy: link me!
[09:25] <phix> please
[09:25] <jbraddoc> Is there some kind of stick that needs to be obtained first before asking questions?
[09:25] <Strawberryjam> hold on phix
[09:25] <Starnestommy> jbraddoc: just ask
[09:25] <jbraddoc> i did.
[09:25] <jbraddoc> I was thinking I could make a script, but I am not sure how. I was going to have it read /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/acad/state and then echo something into /proc/acpi/video/vga/lcd/brightness but then I would also have to have it check timestamps of when the state changed and what not incase i manually changed the brightness my self after the state changed. Like if I unplugged my laptop and I made it darker and plugged it back in, i wouldn't want
[09:25] <jbraddoc>  it to be full brightness.
[09:25] <jbraddoc> Okay I am back. What is the easiest way to have an action happen when the ac adapter state changes on a laptop?
[09:25] <jbraddoc> eh.. transpose those two lines.
[09:26] <Daisuke_Ido> !patience | jbraddoc
[09:26] <ubotu> jbraddoc: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:26] <Daisuke_Ido> in other words: if no one's answering right now, no one that's here and awake knows
[09:26] <jbraddoc> Daisuke_Ido: i appreciate that. But, idk also works so i know im not being ignored?
[09:26] <ubuntufreak> Need help in installing the GRUB after i re-sized my Ubuntu 7.10 partition and installed windows, how do i install the grub again
[09:27] <jlulian38> should it really take like 15 minutes to resize a reiserfs partition from 129 to 128.7GB :/
[09:27] <erawfish_> !grub | ubuntufreak
[09:27] <ubotu> ubuntufreak: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:27] <erawfish_> jimlay: can be
[09:27] <erawfish_> jlulian38:
[09:27] <phix> Strawberryjam: ok, I am holding on
[09:27] <jlulian38> ?
[09:27] <erawfish_> jlulian38: read a l as i, sorry
[09:28] <jbraddoc> let me ask this another way. what would I want to google to find what i need to accomplish this? I mean.. I understand its a script, but what kind of script?
[09:28] <Mega_byte> hi, anyone knows if it's possible (and how) to start the gui even there is this error : /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off ?
[09:28] <jbraddoc> like I am wanting to make a script that can tell timestamps and do if then and else's
[09:29] <erawfish_> jbraddoc: info about acpi that's all. besides that you need a sciptinglanguage.. ever done some programming?
[09:29] <jbraddoc> Eh not .. much u.u
[09:29] <jbraddoc> a bit of java and stuff
[09:29] <jbraddoc> a few batch scripts.
[09:29] <jbraddoc> bash*
[09:29] <Strawberryjam> connection seems slow
[09:30] <jbraddoc> ping Strawberryjam
[09:30] <jbraddoc> - Ping reply from Strawberryjam : 1.10 second(s)
[09:30] <phix> Strawberryjam: ok, what should I do now?
[09:30] <jbraddoc> wait :-D
[09:30] <jbraddoc> wrong person :P
[09:30] <jbraddoc> sorry Strawberryjam
[09:30] <phix> jbraddoc: what should I do now? :)
[09:31] <jbraddoc> lol
[09:31] <stefan_> I upgraded to hardy, and everytime i reboot, i seem to lose my opt partition. reiserfsck cant check it. I reformat it reiser, and its broken next time. Is this a known hardy bug?
[09:31] <ubuntufreak> erawfish_: thats doesn't help
[09:31] <jbraddoc> i interjected :/ Just ignore me phix :P
[09:31] <Strawberryjam> just gimme a sec to get you the link....it worked for me. I have same audio card onboard...just need the link i had...i am using windows now and the link saved in ubuntu
[09:32] <phix> jbraddoc: aaww ok, but I would like some help :)
[09:33] <Strawberryjam> the forums seems dead...cant get a single page to load
[09:33] <phix> Strawberryjam: :(
[09:33] <Strawberryjam> patients young jedi....
[09:34] <tyguaike> :-(
[09:34] <Mega_byte> anyone knows if it's possible (and how) to start the gui even there is this error : /bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off ?
[09:35] <erawfish_> Mega_byte: you fix your kernel first
[09:35] <Mega_byte> erawfish_, is this a kernel problem? :/ it was working fine before
[09:36] <Strawberryjam> Ok search Google using 'intel soundcard install on ubuntu' its the 3rd from the top....it takes you to the page i am talkng about...
[09:37] <rinaldi_> hi, sometimes when I go to play a video of any format in any player, I simply get thin green and pink lines where the video should be. any ideas?
[09:37] <rinaldi_> sometimes it works fine though
[09:37] <jbraddoc> phix: sorry, everything i use, goes through ndis-wrapper automagically.
[09:38] <Strawberryjam> even to 4th option in google is good...cant get to ubuntu site...dunno why
[09:40] <ere4si> rinaldi_, I got that sometimes when the vid was compressed with divx - using vlc was my solution
[09:41] <rex_> hi
[09:42] <rex_> was geht bei dir ????
[09:42] <rinaldi_> ere4si: nah it's with every video for a certain amount of time, then it might work, sometimes a reeboot helps, sometimes not. sometimes  enabling/disblaing compiz works, sometimes not
[09:42] <jpatrick> !de | rex_
[09:42] <ubotu> rex_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:42] <nerdsquad3210> english
[09:42] <stefan_> I upgraded to hardy, and everytime i reboot, i seem to lose my opt partition. reiserfsck cant check it. I reformat it reiser, and its broken next time. Is this a known hardy bug?
[09:42] <ere4si> rinaldi_, that's not good - is the card getting hot or something?
[09:42] <tchaska> hi.. anyone know what file is the rc.local (for startup) but for shutdown? I need to run a simple script before shutdown
[09:43] <Strawberryjam> phix...got it yet?
[09:43] <Lycus> on my mobo I have my CPU clocked to 2.66ghz, but Ubuntu's sys monitor shows my cores at 2.00ghz (their default value) - is that normal?
[09:43] <rinaldi_> ere4si: well i've been running ubuntu for ages but i reinstalled recently and it's been happening since then
[09:43] <user2> join #sex
[09:44] <Strawberryjam> user2 hahahaha.....need money?
[09:44] <jpatrick> user2: no thanks
[09:45]  * Strawberryjam throws a bucket of ICE water over the toilet stall door and hits user2!
[09:45] <nerdsquad3210> can i copy ubuntu iso to usb and install from there ?
[09:45] <tchaska> What file is the rc.local (for startup) but for shutdown? I need to run a simple script before shutdown
[09:45] <ere4si> tchaska, put the script in /etc/init.d then in /etc/rc0.d make a symlink
[09:46] <rinaldi_> nerdsquad3210: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[09:46] <tchaska> ok thanks
[09:46] <nerdsquad3210> but i need to boot from usb ?
[09:47] <nerdsquad3210> cant i just run a batch file ?
[09:47] <nerdsquad3210> from windows
[09:48] <nerdsquad3210> i tryed boot from usb there are seting in the bios but didnt work ?!
[09:48] <Dr_willis> nerdsquad3210,  its a bit more complex then that.
[09:48] <Dr_willis> !install
[09:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[09:48] <nerdsquad3210> is that common ?
[09:48] <Dr_willis> Those urls may help. ive never tried to install from a usb device.
[09:49] <jpatrick> !usb | nerdsquad3210
[09:49] <ubotu> nerdsquad3210: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[09:49] <nerdsquad3210> is it common to have the usb boot seting in bios and can not boot from usb ?
[09:49] <Strawberryjam> phix you ok there dog?
[09:49] <Lycus> Anyone have any ideas about the OCing situation?
[09:50] <ti12> hi could someone tell me how to enable PAE on Ubuntu?
[09:50] <nerdsquad3210> is it common to have the usb boot setting in bios and still can not boot from usb ?
[09:52] <Dr_willis> nerdsquad3210,  theres a lot of variables in there.. some usb gizmos make it hard to boot from them.
[09:52] <Dr_willis> I have to go to the bios for each usb gizmo i want to boot from , at boot time on my laptop. to tell it to boot that spefic usb gizmo. but laptops vary
[09:52] <nerdsquad3210> so you think its a usb device problem not a bios problem ?
[09:53] <CommanderCool> i have a problem with my wacom touchscreen...rightclick does not work!!! can anyone help me?
[09:53] <Dr_willis> nerdsquad3210,  no idea. Try otehr usb gizmos and see
[09:53] <nerdsquad3210> other ?
[09:54] <nerdsquad3210> only have this usb pen
[09:54] <thirdy> any recommended bittorrent client for ubuntu? one as light and functional as utorrent
[09:54] <nerdsquad3210> so you think its a usb *gismo* problem then ? and not bios problem ?
[09:55] <ti12> Is it possible to get PAE mode?
[09:55] <ti12> please help
[09:55] <Dr_willis> It could be... it may not be.. only way to prove it would be to succesfully boot some other pendrive.
[09:55] <nerdsquad3210> ive boot on another computer just not this one
[09:56] <nerdsquad3210> strange thing was that it booted fine once but not the second time ?!?!?!
[09:56] <CommanderCool> is there a way to simulate a rightclick by holding the left mouse button for a long time?
[09:56] <gorbierd> hi at all!
[09:57] <gorbierd> how do I change my left touchpad button to middle mice button functionality?
[09:57] <gorbierd> I just have no middle touchpad button and didn't use left
[09:58] <knoppix> hello!
[09:58] <gorbierd> hi
[09:58] <knoppix> ai from Russia!
[09:58] <Strawberryjam> maybe getting a cheap 3 button mouse will help...its cheap and i find it more comfy gorbierd.
[09:59] <knoppix> kto po rysski govorit&
[09:59] <gorbierd> no i need only touchpad
[09:59] <knoppix> kak ICQ nastroit???
[09:59] <Dr_willis> if your touchpad is broken.. we...
[09:59] <gorbierd> no it works well
[10:00] <gorbierd> i have advice to use xmodmap
[10:00] <nerdsquad3210> will install ubuntu void the computer warranty ?
[10:00] <Dr_willis> then why are you trying to do this weirdness?  You do Know that normally a 'right+leftclick' emulates  a middle click?
[10:00] <icesword> hi,guys,ubuntu 7.10 works EXTREMELY well on my machine,coz my platform is X86,hahah!:)
[10:00] <gorbierd> i used pointer 2 1 3
[10:00] <Dr_willis> nerdsquad3210,  ive seen some companies 'claim' that.. but how do they prove it.
[10:00] <gorbierd> but it didn't give a results
[10:00] <nerdsquad3210> prove what ?
[10:01] <Dr_willis> nerdsquad3210,  prove it had ubuntu on it. :)
[10:01] <Dr_willis> format the hd.. there ya go.
[10:01] <nerdsquad3210> because its still there ?
[10:01] <nerdsquad3210> unformat ?
[10:02] <Dr_willis> You expect the pc company to take a machine and try to 'unformat' the hd to prove you had linux on it?
[10:02] <Dr_willis> or would they just restore windows,  from some master set of disks..
[10:02] <Sevensins> Can so tell where in ubuntu the alsadriver is sitting  e.g . /etc or so
[10:02] <booster__> is their any driver updates for intel onboard graphics chips???
[10:03] <nerdsquad3210> Dr_willis: have you ever break any hardware instaling linux on it ?
[10:03] <icesword> Dr_willis, but ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't get me another login,i edit that /etc/default/console-setup before,just changed 1-6 to 1-2,coz i only want two consoles
[10:04] <Dr_willis> nerdsquad3210,  i would be suprised if thats at all possible with any os.
[10:04] <Dr_willis> nerdsquad3210,  years ago one could goof up monitors with the wrong modes.. but thats been ages.,
[10:04] <nerdsquad3210> you would ?
[10:04] <Tyczek> problem with compiling alsa... week ago it worked now error: http://www.wklej.org/id/9439023a61
[10:04] <Dr_willis> nerdsquad3210,  then overclocking  a long time ago could burn out cpus due to heat.
[10:04] <Sevensins> thx m8
[10:04] <freepenguin> hello
[10:05] <icesword> freepenguin, love penguin
[10:05] <Sevensins> kay
[10:05] <nerdsquad3210> Dr_willis: have you ever payed around with HD parem
[10:05] <Sevensins> sorry i thought you wanted to help
[10:05] <Sevensins> :)
[10:05] <sbox> hey all, can anyone recommend a avi2dvd converter? used to use a really good one but for the life of me can't remember what it's called
[10:06] <david__> hello
[10:06] <david__> is it possible that a new distro version is available?
[10:06] <Lycus> what is the command to build the dependencies for a particular package?
[10:06] <icesword> sbox, have you asked google?google "avi2dvd linux"
[10:07] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> Lycus, apt-get build-dep
[10:07] <Dr_willis> DeVeDe is handy for converting avi to dvd format
[10:07] <sbox> icesword: just doing it now, this is so dumb.. it's the most perfect piece of software for this
[10:07] <Lycus> [Hardy]TuTUXG: ty
[10:09] <Strawberryjam> phix try this if you are still here: http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2007/10/19/getting-intel-ich8-family-rev-3-sound-card-to-work-in-gutsy/
[10:10] <icesword> ...
[10:17] <kane77> is there some good frontend for ffmpeg or mencoder?
[10:17] <Dr_willis> i use avidemux a lot
[10:17] <Dr_willis> theres proberly others
[10:17] <uunbeatable> ##Linux on Dalnet needs some good company and good channel operators. type /server -m irc.dal.net (or /connect irc.dal.net) and join ##Linux. Be there for some time. New channel…
[10:17] <Dr_willis> dalnet - HA HA HAH A!!
[10:18] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> kane77, there are lots frontends for ffmpeg or mencoder with partial features
[10:18] <eth01> hmmm
[10:18] <kane77> [Hardy]TuTUXG, I mainly want the ability to process multiple files (with the same settings)
[10:18] <Ax-Ax> I'm not sure my ntp does anything, can i force-update or something?
[10:18] <whodaman-> heh
[10:20] <le1> hallo
[10:20] <Breakage> Hi, i've updated to the latest swiftfox and now my mouse side buttons are not mapped to back and forward (razer deathadder) mozilla has changed button mapping from 6 & 7 to 8 & 9 for back and forward my buttons are set to 6 & 7 in xorg.conf, how can I map them to 8 & 9?
[10:20] <whodaman-> hi
[10:20] <eth01> elkbunty, thanks
[10:20] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> kane77, what kind of process u are doing mostly?
[10:20] <kane77> [Hardy]TuTUXG, converting anything into dvd mpeg
[10:22] <Breakage> Hi, i've updated to the latest swiftfox and now my mouse side buttons are not mapped to back and forward (razer deathadder) mozilla has changed button mapping from 6 & 7 to 8 & 9 for back and forward my buttons are set to 6 & 7 in xorg.conf, how can I map them to 8 & 9? this is my current xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/f66724a8
[10:23] <micktm> Hi!! How to get working GP4 on Ubuntu with Cedega?
[10:25] <freepenguin> micktm, do you mean guitar pro?
[10:26] <micktm> no, grand prix 4
[10:26] <pliumbum> hello. i cannot find /media/host folder on my wubi installation. what is wrong? it is written in wubi wiki that windows files should be mounted automatically there.
[10:26] <invitado> Hello
[10:26] <micktm> I read someone managed to get it working, but installing it there is a problem of characters encoding!
[10:26] <micktm> There is a file Léeme.txt that I see as L?eme.txt
[10:27] <invitado> I need to "mount" a two patitions in my hard disk and I dont know how to do. Some help please?
[10:27] <micktm> and Cedega doesn't recognize it!
[10:27] <freepenguin> ah ok
[10:27] <micktm> I already tried to change name but it doesn't work!
[10:27] <Ax-Ax> I'm not sure my ntp does anything, can I force-update or something by cli?
[10:27] <Breakage> Hi, i've updated to the latest swiftfox and now my mouse side buttons are not mapped to back and forward (razer deathadder) mozilla has changed button mapping from 6 & 7 to 8 & 9 for back and forward my buttons are set to 6 & 7 in xorg.conf, how can I map them to 8 & 9? this is my current xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/f66724a8
[10:28] <Strawberryjam> anybody know where i can get a good ebook or pdf on ubuntu?
[10:28] <invitado> Or a link for a tutorial
[10:28] <Breakage> i've tried buttonmapping "1 2 3 8 9" but that doesnt work..
[10:29] <invitado> .
[10:29] <micktm> is there a channel dedicated to cedega?
[10:29] <Strawberryjam> invitado try this...but i cant download: http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/unleashed/
[10:29] <voltxion> Hello
[10:30] <voltxion> !hello
[10:30] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[10:30] <Strawberryjam> wish there was a way to d/l the damn thing
[10:30] <invitado> Thanks Strawberryjam
[10:30] <ere4si> someone earlier wanted to change the main menu to the gnome foot... just did it
[10:31] <voltxion> any idea why my grub didnt find my windows XP install?
[10:31] <Breakage> i've tried buttonmapping "1 2 3 8 9" but that doesnt work..
[10:31] <Breakage> Hi, i've updated to the latest swiftfox and now my mouse side buttons are not mapped to back and forward (razer deathadder) mozilla has changed button mapping from 6 & 7 to 8 & 9 for back and forward my buttons are set to 6 & 7 in xorg.conf, how can I map them to 8 & 9? this is my current xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/f66724a8
[10:31] <Tachdelan> Hello! I'm having problems with my ubuntu 7.10 server. I've got an ftp server and teamspeak server running on it, but noone can connect. I've tried opening the ports in iptables, but that did not help. I can connect from within my LAN. Also the computer was running ftp and ts server before on windows os, but I guess upnp may have managed the forwarding of ports on my modem/router. Is there a UPnP module for linux/ubuntu?
[10:31] <Strawberryjam> np invitado
[10:32] <voltxion> Tachdelan
[10:32] <andi5> Tachdelan: upnp is a security desaster, so you may prefer to make manual port forwards :)
[10:32] <voltxion> Tachdelan: your behind a router right?
[10:33] <tyler-wylie> On a new Ubuntu install I'm looking to keep /home on a seperate partition, is 10GB enough for /? or should I go with 15?
[10:33] <voltxion> Tachdelan: are the ports forwarded on teh router?
[10:33] <Tachdelan> andi5: ok.
[10:33] <Tachdelan> voltxion: yes
[10:33] <Lycus> tyler-wylie: Depends what you depend on doing I guess
[10:33] <ere4si> tyler-wylie, 10 will be plenty
[10:33] <andi5> tyler-wylie: do you plan to keep /var and /usr on the same partition as /?
[10:33] <tyler-wylie> andi5: yes
[10:34] <andi5> tyler-wylie: 10 would not suffice for me :)
[10:34] <tyler-wylie> hmm
[10:34] <Strawberryjam> invitado could you find a way to d/l the entire copy?
[10:34] <tyler-wylie> I guess I'll go with 15
[10:34] <Lycus> tyler-wylie: Just depends on what YOU intend to install
[10:34] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Anyone know how to find out which display mgr is being used with X?  (xdm, gdm, kdm, etc)
[10:35] <Lycus> What are you using the system for? Will you be gaming? hosting web stuff?
[10:35] <tyler-wylie> Lycus: VMWare Workstation, basic office applications
[10:35] <DjViper> how can I figure out what type of memory I have in my PC, without opening it, in ubuntu...
[10:35] <wined_lips> i need beryl for 7.10 ?? pls!
[10:35] <andi5> tyler-wylie: i guess the biggest variable here is the size of /var, because its growth depends on your usage patterns :)
[10:35] <Dr_willis> wined_lips,  why do you need beryl? its been replaced by compiz-fusion
[10:35] <DjViper> !beryl | wined_lips
[10:35] <ubotu> wined_lips: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[10:35] <tyler-wylie> andi5: yea I should be fine with 15 I think
[10:36] <tyler-wylie> andi5: I can always grow/shrink if needed.
[10:36] <wined_lips> !compiz
[10:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[10:36] <Tachdelan> the strange thing is... the pc with linux(server) has the external ip despite being behind the router. This is a feature on the router and I assumed that this is the same as DMZ.
[10:36] <andi5> tyler-wylie: if you can affort those 5 gigs, then i would say: do it :-D
[10:36] <DjViper> wined_lips: compiz comes with 7.10
[10:36] <SeanInSeattle> Anyone *not* use default wm that comes w/ Ubuntu?
[10:36] <andi5> s,affort,afford,
[10:36] <DjViper> wined_lips: you just have to turn desktop effects on
[10:36] <wined_lips> Ok thnx..
[10:36] <DjViper> SeanInSeattle: not gnome you mean?
[10:37] <SeanInSeattle> Yes.
[10:37] <tyler-wylie> and do you guys usually put swap at the end or beginning of your hard drive(I do not count on needing it with 4GB of RAM)
[10:37] <andi5> SeanInSeattle: or rather metacity?
[10:37] <DjViper> SeanInSeattle: if you're using kde or xfce you should probably ask in #kubuntu or #xubuntu
[10:37] <SeanInSeattle> andi5:  i'm trying to switch wm to icewm
[10:37] <andi5> tyler-wylie: you definitely need it, at least a few megs... there is some technical discussion about that in the net
[10:37] <SeanInSeattle> I've got ubuntu 64bit installed
[10:37] <SeanInSeattle> w/ gnome
[10:37] <DjViper> how can I figure out what type of memory I have in my PC, without opening it, in ubuntu...
[10:37] <tyler-wylie> andi5: I know I need it, but placement should it go at beginning or end
[10:38] <Strawberryjam> anybody running ubuntu on vmware...my install is thousand kilometres away and i'm using my wife's notebook.
[10:38] <andi5> tyler-wylie: does that matter?
[10:38] <Dr_willis> i always put swap at the end. on all my hd's :) every hd gets a little-bit-o-swap :)
[10:38] <tyler-wylie> andi5: swap is usually faster at the front, but if I don't need it or don't plan on swapping it might be better at the end
[10:38] <tyler-wylie> alright end it is
[10:38] <Dr_willis> just in case i boot a system with a livecd - it has some swap to find/use. Even if its a windows box.
[10:38]  * Lycus hugs his 64bit linux install
[10:39] <realmer> a
[10:39] <Tachdelan> I'd love some tips as to things I can check... I'm pretty new to linux you see...
[10:39] <Lycus> no problems at all going to 64bit...
[10:39] <tyler-wylie> Lycus: 64 bit ftw
[10:39] <Strawberryjam> I feel you Lycus
[10:39] <andi5> tyler-wylie: swap is slow anyway... be orders of magnitude slower than ram, and you will notice that instantly :)
[10:39] <Lycus> even got youtube working =x
[10:39] <Strawberryjam> how did you do that Lycus?
[10:39] <tyler-wylie> andi5: yes, and I don't plan on swapping at all
[10:40] <Lycus> Strawberryjam: err, dunno, using hardy, installed both gnash and flash player non-free
[10:40] <Lycus> and it works in firefox
[10:40]  * Lycus shrugs
[10:40] <voltxion> How would I add a choice to my Grub loader to make my windows install be there.
[10:40] <Strawberryjam> oh ok...guess have to wait then
[10:40] <SeanInSeattle> DJViper:  How to switch to diff windows mgr (icewm) ??
[10:40] <DjViper> SeanInSeattle: check forums
[10:41] <Dr_willis> voltxion,  the installer should add one allready.
[10:41] <Dr_willis> voltxion,  or you can edit the menu.lst to add one.
[10:41] <andi5> SeanInSeattle: install the necessary packages, then choose the session in the gdm (login screen)
[10:41] <SeanInSeattle> andi5:  Thanks!@
[10:41] <Lycus> voltxion: you'll need to know the partition it's on if it didn't automatically detect it (which it should have)
[10:42] <voltxion> Dr_willis: I installed Ubuntu onto a seperate HD(IDE) and my windows is on a Sata HD and didnt find it.
[10:42] <andi5> will update-grub find newly installed windowses? i guess no, right?  what about dpkg-reconfigure <somegrubpackage>?
[10:42] <voltxion> Lycus: how would I find that information out?
[10:42] <Tachdelan> Can anyone give me som pointers as to where my server might be blocking external connections(i.e. from outside my LAN)?
[10:42] <Lycus> voltxion: type sudo fdisk -l
[10:42] <Dr_willis> voltxion,  odd. it found it here. i got ide+sata
[10:43] <DjViper> how can I figure out what type of memory I have in my PC, without opening it, in ubuntu...
[10:43] <Lycus> it should list it
[10:43] <andi5> Tachdelan: what do you mean by "where"?
[10:43] <Dr_willis> update-grub does not rescan and add new/other OS's  as far as ive seen
[10:43] <david__> hello
[10:43] <david__> do i need hplip and hpijs if i dont have any hp printers?
[10:43] <Dr_willis> If windows is on hda1 theres an example grub entry in  the menu.lst for windows.
[10:43] <Tachdelan> andi5: configs and whatnot... or commands to see what connections are allowed
[10:44] <Tachdelan> andi5: iptables should be ok though
[10:44] <andi5> Tachdelan: by default i suppose your router only passes segments which belong to a connection started from inside .... have you tried to telnet or firefox the routers ip?
[10:45] <voltxion> Lycus: Ok, it listed it /dev/sda1, now how would I add that to grub?
[10:45] <david__> do i need hplip and hpijs if i dont have any hp printers?
[10:45] <ere4si> tyler-wylie, I've been using feisty for nearly a year and have 2.4G on the root partition with a seperate /home - if that helps
[10:45] <tyler-wylie> ere4si: nice
[10:46] <ere4si> tyler-wylie, so I thought that 10G would be plenty...
[10:46] <tyler-wylie> ere4si: on my gentoo install usually just keep /, /usr/portage, and /home on seperate partitions and it keeps things clean, fedora do just / and /home, same with ubuntu and opensuse
[10:46] <Tachdelan> andi5: I am unsure what you mean... I can connect to my router (using it's web interface) using it's LAN ip, but it does not have an WAN ip as it is forwarded to the server.
[10:47] <erawfish_> DjViper: with decode-dimms from ic2-tools
[10:47] <ere4si> tyler-wylie, that way the / partition doesn't have to be huge at all :)
[10:47] <Lycus> voltxion: hmm one sec
[10:47] <voltxion> Lycus: np, Im very grateful for the help.
[10:48] <realmerx> Tachdelan: you mean you can not connect to outside sites or others can not connect your servers?
[10:48] <andi5> Tachdelan: i am sorry?  your router's wan ip should be the same you see when you contact www.whatismyip.com... what do you mean by "forwarded _to_ the server"?  port forwarding means to me: forward incoming segments to the router with port $port to a configured internal ip $mygaminghost
[10:49] <darren_> hi all
[10:49] <m4jkl> hi
[10:49] <darren_> new to ubuntu
[10:49] <Tachdelan> realmerx: others can't connect to my server
[10:49] <darren_> seems gr8
[10:49] <yeldakar> I was just trying to netinstall Hardy for amd64. I am getting warning regarding Packages.gz being corrupt.
[10:49] <darren_> but have a small problem that I was hoping someone could help me with
[10:49] <ere4si> a linux app to make .svg files pls
[10:49] <david__> can anyone suggest a good email client?
[10:49] <greenmanwitch> ubuntu takes ages to boot if I have freebsd installed
[10:49] <andi5> ere4si: huh? :) inkscape may help
[10:49] <Lycus> voltxion: Not entirely sure here, so CAN SOMEONE ELSE VERIFY, but I think you'd add these lines to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:49] <Lycus> http://pastebin.org/22052
[10:50] <Lycus> assuming it's sda1
[10:50] <ere4si> andi5, thnx
[10:50] <clusty> hey
[10:50] <freepenguin> david__, thunderbird
[10:50] <darren_> I've installed ubuntu as dual boot with XP and the install went fine. But when I try and boot into XP i get the Windows logo then BSOD !
[10:50] <Lycus> you may have to tinker with it
[10:50] <Tachdelan> andi5: My router(which is my dsl modem) "gives" the wan ip to the server(I did this intentionally).
[10:50] <clusty> what package contains the kde ?
[10:50] <jpatrick> !kde | clusty
[10:50] <ubotu> clusty: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE version is 3.5.8 for Gutsy and Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[10:50] <KojiroS> how do i navigate to my dekstop in terminal please? :P thnx ^_^
[10:50] <Dr_willis> clusty,  i install kubuntu-desktop for the full kde system
[10:50] <voltxion> lycus: Thank you, I will mess around with it.
[10:50] <Dr_willis> KojiroS,  its the Desktop directory.
[10:50] <Tachdelan> andi5: So when I check the ip on the server it prints the WAN ip and not a LAN ip
[10:51] <clusty> thanks a lot
[10:51] <andi5> Tachdelan: does that mean that you forward every port to your internal server?
[10:51] <Lycus> voltxion: I had to go through hell this evening getting my triple boot to work
[10:51] <Lycus> OS X/Ubuntu/XP
[10:51] <darren_> does anyone have any suggestions?
[10:51] <KojiroS> whats the command in terminal for that?]
[10:51] <Lycus> it was OS X's fault tho =x
[10:51] <andi5> KojiroS: cd ~/Desktop
[10:51] <KojiroS> andi5: thnx :)
[10:51] <realmerx> darren__: Safe mode?
[10:51] <voltxion> Lycus: heh, I attempted that on my Macbook pro... never again will I dual boot that god forsaken thing.
[10:52] <darren_> tried that as well. Still get the BSOD
[10:52] <Tachdelan> andi5: I am unsure of that, so I added a separate forwarding for the ports I needed.
[10:52] <Tachdelan> andi5: It didn't help though
[10:52] <Lycus> voltxion: Just run VMWare. ^_^
[10:52] <darren_> XP starts to load then BSOD for around 1/2 second then back to boot menu
[10:52] <realmerx> Tachdelan: what kind of server is it?
[10:53] <Tachdelan> andi5: So I am wondering if there is something in the default configuration or ubuntu server that blocks incoming connections from WAN ips
[10:53] <andi5> Tachdelan: well... fire up wireshark (or tcpdump) and check whether anything comes in at your port... or check whether your application is listening on the correct device and port (netstat -tlnp)
[10:53] <voltxion> Lycus: heh, too poor...
[10:53] <realmerx> Tachdelan: for example ftp server forwarding is not that simple
[10:53] <realmerx> Tachdelan: try http server first
[10:53] <Lycus> voltxion: you have a macbook pro and you are too poor? o_o
[10:53] <Lycus> did you win it in a contest or something?
[10:53] <realmerx> Tachdelan: or even better ssh first
[10:53] <Tachdelan> realmerx: I'm running ubuntu 7.10 server with a 3rd party ftp and a teamspeak server
[10:54] <realmerx> Tachdelan: does ssh connections to your box from outside work?
[10:54] <Tachdelan> realmerx: no
[10:54] <voltxion> Lycus: my college gave it to me included in tuition
[10:54] <andi5> Tachdelan: by default i think ubuntu's firewall rules are rather... lax :)
[10:54] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: you are behind NAT?
[10:54] <Lycus> voltxion: ahh
[10:54] <realmerx> Tachdelan: so your box can ping your router?
[10:55] <realmerx> Tachdelan: and itables rules are all ALLOW?
[10:55] <andi5> Tachdelan: (sudo iptables -L)
[10:56] <Tachdelan> ok... just to clarify a few things... I'm currently not sitting at the server, but at my other computer. Both are connected to the same router, but this one has a LAN ip while the server has the WAN ip
[10:56] <Tachdelan> iptables are all ALLOW
[10:56] <realmerx> Tachdelan: even better do /etc/init.d/iptables stop to be sure
[10:56] <andi5> Tachdelan: but your server has only one network device connected to the router, right?
[10:57] <Tachdelan> andi5: yes
[10:57] <darren_> any tips anyone?
[10:57] <Tachdelan> -bash: /etc/init.d/iptables: No such file or directory
[10:58] <andi5> Tachdelan: "has the wan ip" ... i am sorry, that does not sound correct... when you execute "ifconfig" on your server, i suppose you will not see any wan ip
[10:58] <Tachdelan> I do
[10:59] <Tachdelan> though I will not post it here for security reasons...
[10:59] <Tachdelan> inet addr: 88.*.*.*
[11:00] <andi5> Tachdelan: so does your server sit in the same ip network as your pc?
[11:00] <Tachdelan> which is the same as if I checked www.whatsmyip.org from _this_ computer which has ip: <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:00] <realmerx> Tachdelan: you mean your server has an ip that should be directly accessible from internet?
[11:00] <icesword> hiya
[11:00] <Tachdelan> andi5: yes
[11:00] <Tachdelan> realmerx: yes
[11:00] <icesword> why cannot i apt-get install skype
[11:00] <andi5> Tachdelan: can you ping your server from your pc?
[11:00] <invitado> I was reading the chapter about mounting partitions in http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/unleashed/ but... I cant mount my new hard disk. Somebody knows another link about this?
[11:00] <realmerx> Tachdelan: can you reach your router ip from internet?
[11:00] <nios> Im trying to install nfs with apt but no luck, can someone please take a look on it http://pastebin.com/m1b7ee9b6
[11:01] <realmerx> Tachdelan: ping
[11:01] <Tachdelan> the modem/router should in fact be working as in bridged mode as far as the server is concerned
[11:01] <Tachdelan> andi5 & realmerx: I can ssh, connect to ftp and teamspeak from this computer without problems.
[11:01] <icesword> why cannot i apt-get install skype，it said cannot find it
[11:02] <realmerx> Tachdelan: no I mean can you ping your router ip from outside your network
[11:02] <Tachdelan> ping works fine too
[11:02] <realmerx> realmerx: your router WAN ip that is
[11:03] <Tachdelan> realmerx: Talking to yourself now?
[11:03] <icesword> why cannot i apt-get install skype，it said cannot find it
[11:03] <Trondern> hello, i have just installed ubuntu on my windows xp pc and have a grub error 22 error. I have followed the the guide for error 22 from the ubuntu forums. The thing is i have ubuntu on partition hd1,6 but i boot from hd0...and the find command in grub dont find those files..
[11:03] <icesword> why cannot i apt-get install skype，it said cannot find it
[11:03] <invitado> .
[11:03] <Tachdelan> realmerx: But, yes! I can't be sure whether it is the modem/router or the server responding.
[11:04] <jamesrdorn> icesword, we saw you the first time
[11:04] <jamesrdorn> icesword, sudo apt-get update
[11:04] <icesword> jamesrdorn, ??
[11:04] <icesword> jamesrdorn, thx for attention,it seems it is repo issue
[11:04] <Tachdelan> realmerx: I am, however, using a no-ip hostname to connect.
[11:04] <jamesrdorn> icesword, it's very early for everyone this morning
[11:05] <Tachdelan> since it has no static LAN ip
[11:05] <jamesrdorn> icesword, 5am CST
[11:05] <icesword> Trondern, you google grub load error 22
[11:05] <icesword> jamesrdorn, thx for your time
[11:05] <Trondern> yes,  but none of the solutions i get works..thats why i am here..:)
[11:05] <Tachdelan> 1105 zulu
[11:05] <realmerx> Tachdelan: sorry maybe it is a language problem :)
[11:05] <realmerx> Tachdelan: but I am little confused
[11:06] <Tachdelan> realmerx: could be
[11:06] <Trondern> i haqve tried the google thing first ofc
[11:06] <ozis> hi
[11:06] <icesword> Trondern, if you have livecd ,why not reinstall
[11:06] <realmerx> Tachdelan: your router should have WAN ip different from your server ip
[11:06] <Trondern> i have tried that too icesword
[11:06] <Tachdelan> realmerx: Well... it hasn't
[11:06] <icesword> Trondern, ok,wait a min
[11:06] <andi6> realmerx: i lost my connection.. what did you say, could you repeat once for me? :)
[11:07] <Tachdelan> realmerx: I know it's strange, but that's the way it is
[11:07] <felix> join #ubuntu-de
[11:07] <andi6> felix: prepend a slash and you are right there :)
[11:07] <realmerx> as I understand Tachdelan has router that has wan ip
[11:07] <Trondern> the real question is ..how do i access grub files on a partition that is not mounted by the live cd and thu is not found by find in grub..
[11:08] <realmerx> now his server machine has also WAN ip
[11:08] <andi6> Trondern: normally grub will mount block devices once you try to access them within grub
[11:08] <Tachdelan> realmerx: My router is by all purposes NO WAN ip and is inaccessible from outside this LAN
[11:08] <realmerx> also he is sitting behind different machine that is connected to the router but is in NAT-ed network
[11:08] <Tachdelan> is=has
[11:08] <andi6> Trondern: well, interpret them for itself
[11:09] <shishirm1> which is a good command line mail client to be used to automate some email processing
[11:09] <shishirm1> i mean i wanna use commands of this mail client and then write shell scripts
[11:09] <Trondern> andi6: i have tried to root that partition but get error when doing the setup command
[11:09] <icesword> Trondern, what about fdisk /mbr
[11:10] <realmerx> so router has two networks routed - NAT-ed internal network (where the machine he is sitting behind is) and WAN network where his router and server machines are
[11:10] <Trondern> hmm, i can try that
[11:10] <realmerx> or am I confused?
[11:10] <tdn> I am trying to make virtual users work with vsftpd and pam, but for some reason, my db with the virtual users is ignored. Local system users *are* allowed login, but the virtual users are not. My /etc/vsftpd.conf is here : http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1077.html, I /etc/pam.d/ftp a symbolic link to /etc/vsftpd.pam, which can be seen here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1078.html.
[11:10] <Trondern> i have not tried that yet
[11:10] <andi6> realmerx: that is what i thought as well, but it seems to me that Tachdelan did some bridging tricks
[11:10] <icesword> Trondern, then your linux won't boot
[11:10] <tdn> Is there an Ubuntu Server IRC channel?
[11:11] <Trondern> doh...well the goal is to have grub loading so i can have both ofc
[11:11] <realmerx> what kind of "bridging tricks"?
[11:11] <Tachdelan> realmerx: I don't think the router is routing anything as long as the server is concerned other when connecting from this computer
[11:12] <Tachdelan> I could give you the ip in pm if you wanna ping...
[11:12] <voltxion> well time to test to see if my Grub changes worked...
[11:13] <Trondern> i have tried to mount the windows partition and itworks but the guide to access grub on a disk not found at first fail after that step since the guide assumes the lost partition are a linux partition..
[11:13] <realmerx> Tachdelan: you can connect internet behind your NAT-ed network right?
[11:13] <realmerx> Tachdelan: then it is routing
[11:13] <Tachdelan> Assign the public IP address of a connection to a device <--- it what I used on the router/modem
[11:14] <andi5|ill> Tachdelan: ever thought about unsetting that one and instead use a few specific port forwarding rules?
[11:14] <Tachdelan> realmerx: I can connect from this computer which has LAN ip, and I can download with the server from http (to get packages or something)
[11:15] <tdn> Does anyone have the time to help me set up vsftpd with virtual users?
[11:15] <juice_> is there an easy way to port .dmg? anyone?
[11:15] <tdn> I am trying to make virtual users work with vsftpd and pam, but for some reason, my db with the virtual users is ignored. Local system users *are* allowed login, but the virtual users are not. My /etc/vsftpd.conf is here : http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1077.html, I /etc/pam.d/ftp a symbolic link to /etc/vsftpd.pam, which can be seen here: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1078.html.
[11:15] <mohadib> hello
[11:16] <erawfish_> Terrasqu1: are you behind LAN?
[11:16] <tdn> juice_, no.
[11:16] <erawfish_> tolecnal: are you behind a NAT
[11:16] <Tachdelan> andi6: I have, but I would prefer not to since port forwarding is tricky for ftp
[11:16] <tdn> juice_, use Ubuntu .deb packages.
[11:16] <realmerx> Tachdelan: to clarify once more your - the machine you are sitting right now - what ip it gives when you do ifconfig
[11:16] <Botor> is there something for Ubuntu like Rollback Rx/AyRecovery/Roxio GoBack/Norton GoBack for windows?
[11:16] <Tachdelan> and I believe that the issue is within the server setup
[11:16] <erawfish_> tolecnal: if your ubuntu has a non routable private IP it's the only way
[11:16] <Blin182> hi
[11:16] <erawfish_> Tachdelan:  it isn't
[11:16] <Blin182> is the  anybody  from chicago?
[11:17] <pietro> hello everybody
[11:17] <Tachdelan> realmerx: I'm sitting on my gaming computer running vista and has ip: <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:17] <Tachdelan> ;)
[11:17] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: and your ubuntu has what IP?
[11:17] <yeldakar> leave
[11:17] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: the wan ip
[11:17] <Blin182> hi
[11:17] <Blin182> boc
[11:17] <Blin182> how
[11:17] <pietro> I've a problem with ubuntu
[11:17] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: and it does ipmasq for you?
[11:17] <realmerx> Tachdelan: and that vista machine is connected directly to router?
[11:17] <andi6> Tachdelan: i am no expert, but is not it enough for passive ftp to forward port 21?
[11:18] <erawfish_> andi6: not enough by far
[11:18] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: I do not know what ipmasq is
[11:18] <Tachdelan> realmerx: yes
[11:18] <realmerx> ipmasquerade
[11:18] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: run "/sbin/ifconfig" on the ubuntu machine. what IP(s)?
[11:18] <Tachdelan> andi6: the ftp is not on port 21
[11:18] <realmerx> Tachdelan: what ip you get when you access whatismyipaddress.com from vista machine
[11:18] <andi6> erawfish_: why not?
[11:19] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: I'm not displaying my wan ip in a public channel
[11:19] <boc_> http://silver-reality.uv.ro/
[11:19] <boc_> http://silver-reality.uv.ro/
[11:19] <boc_> http://silver-reality.uv.ro/
[11:19] <boc_> http://silver-reality.uv.ro/
[11:19] <boc_> http://silver-reality.uv.ro/
[11:19] <boc_> http://silver-reality.uv.ro/
[11:19] <Marchewa> How to unmount a partition which is mounted in /var ?
[11:19] <FloodBot1> boc_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:19] <boc_> http://silver-reality.uv.ro/
[11:19] <Tachdelan> realmerx: the same ip which the server has
[11:19] <bazhang> boc_: please stop
[11:19] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: that is stupid. you run a public ftp servre. if you doN't think it's secure you have no business running it
[11:19] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: I do NOT run a public server
[11:20] <void^> Tachdelan: by the way - everyone here can see your ip by doing /whois Tachdelan
[11:20] <jpatrick> !ops | boc_
[11:20] <ubotu> boc_: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[11:20] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: as soon as you listen on a public interface on any port this is a public server
[11:20] <Tachdelan> void^: lol good point
[11:20] <booster_> hey guys...anyone in here play open arena ???
[11:20] <Tachdelan> void^: which is why I normally only use secure irc servers
[11:20] <erawfish_> !anyone | booster_
[11:20] <ubotu> booster_: In place of  "Does anyone/anybody...", please be aware, one persons expert is another persons beginner, please ask your question in full, then see what helps!
[11:21] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: use tor?
[11:21] <juice_> tdn: weak
[11:21] <andi6> Tachdelan: i suppose you know that there are bots scanning complete ip ranges for open ports? :)
[11:21] <erawfish_>   the anyone fatoid has changed. and not to the better :(
[11:21] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: not when it requires login/pass
[11:21] <Botor> is there something for Ubuntu like Rollback Rx/AyRecovery/Roxio GoBack/Norton GoBack for windows?
[11:21] <booster_> ok i just installed open arena...and for some reason i cant get any servers to load when i choose multi player
[11:22] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: it requires a login/pass still when the IP is known. what you do is security by obscurity and you should know that is futile and never ever works
[11:22] <Tachdelan> andi6: router forwarding doesn't negate that
[11:22] <realmerx> Tachdelan: and you have no proxies active?
[11:22] <void^> Tachdelan: you can get a vhost on freenode.
[11:22] <Tachdelan> realmerx: no
[11:22] <Tachdelan> void^: ok
[11:22] <pietro> i've a problem with my ubuntu startup: if i start normally the system stops in a blackscree, instead if i press ctrl+shift+f1 the system starts normally
[11:23] <erawfish_> pietro: what X drivers and viodecard?
[11:23] <andi6> Tachdelan: you would profit from the router's firewalling rules and forward only ports you know "secure" servers are listening on
[11:23] <Tachdelan> Can we please stop bickering about the security of my server and resume the solving of my problem?
[11:23] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: either you can answer our questions or we cannot help you you don#t want to answer them: solve your own problems. goodbye and goodluck
[11:23] <Tachdelan> noone can connect to my server from WAN ips atm anyway
[11:23] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: you simply waste our time
[11:24] <realmerx> Tachdelan: so somehow your server and router are sharing the same ip?
[11:24] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: Which questions have I not answered?
[11:24] <pietro> erawish: i've no idea
[11:24] <pietro> erawish:how can i see them
[11:25] <Tachdelan> realmerx: In a way yes. However, this worked beautifully when running XP with ftp and ts server
[11:25] <Tachdelan> realmerx: but as I stated earlier that could be upnp
[11:25] <andi6> Tachdelan: i am sorry, i would not call it beautiful, but a nasty hack at best, sorry
[11:25] <realmerx> Tachdelan: the problem is that I do not understand how your network works ant all :)
[11:25] <realmerx> *at
[11:25] <erawfish_> realmerx: cause he doesn't tell
[11:25] <juice_> apparently i need OpenGL Python bindings and the GtkGLExt Python bindings to play 3D chess. can someone point me?
[11:26] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: Which questions have I not answered?
[11:26] <erawfish_> about your IPs, about NAT, etc
[11:26] <realmerx> Tachdelan: wait a moment :)
[11:26] <Tachdelan> as void^ stated, you can see my public ip by doing whois
[11:26] <realmerx> Tachdelan: mayge I got you wrong - your server machine - what it shows when you ifconfig it?
[11:26] <erawfish_> !info python-opengl
[11:27] <ubotu> python-opengl (source: pyopengl): Python bindings to OpenGL. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.0~a6-4ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 397 kB, installed size 4536 kB
[11:27] <andi6> Tachdelan: maybe you should also try to dig a little deeper and see whether you can telnet your router and issue iptables and route commands there
[11:27] <Tachdelan> realmerx:  inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:27] <pietro> erawfish_: i've no idea how to find what you asked me before
[11:27] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: I don't care about your public IP. I want the local IPs of your ubuntu
[11:27] <erawfish_> pietro: lspci, /etc/X11/xorg.conf.~
[11:28] <realmerx> Tachdelan: is it the same address that you get when you whatismyipaddress.com from your server machine and your local machine?
[11:28] <andi6> erawfish_: s,do not care,knew that already, ;-)
[11:28] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: that IS the ONLY ip on my ubuntu other than the loopback
[11:28] <Tachdelan> realmerx: yes
[11:28] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: how do you do NAT?
[11:29] <andi6> Tachdelan: do yourself a favor, deactivate upnp, put your server into the natted net and forward the necessary ports.... that is my last statement :)
[11:29] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: outpuit of /sbin/iptables -L
[11:29] <fabri> ciao
[11:29] <erawfish_> andi6: his ubuntu seems to act as NAT router.
[11:29] <fabri> dove posso trovare i driver della mia scheda wireless?
[11:29] <erawfish_> !it | fabri
[11:29] <ubotu> fabri: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:30] <Nereos> I enjoy ubuntu thx to linux ;)
[11:31] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58084/
[11:31] <pietro> erawfish_: videocard ati radeon x1600, vesa driver
[11:31] <Tachdelan> andi6: afaik upnp isn't normally installed on linux, nor have I installed it
[11:32] <andi6> i meant your router
[11:32] <Tachdelan> oh =P
[11:32] <Eds> Anyone know if a graphic cd emulator like daemon tools?
[11:33] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: your iptables makes not much sense
[11:33] <Dr_willis> Eds,  you dont need one to mount iso image files.
[11:33] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: Ok. What's wrong?
[11:33] <Dr_willis> Eds,  but dont expect copy protected games to work with  it. :)
[11:33] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: on the one hand policy accept and on the other explicitt allowance of certain ports
[11:33] <Dr_willis> !iso
[11:33] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[11:33] <andi6> erawfish_: thanks for saying that... i felt pretty stupid ;-)
[11:33] <void^> should probably look at iptables -t nat -L too
[11:33] <Eds> I meant more like DVDs and stuff like that, I move them between work and home :)
[11:34] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: if you only want to allow certain ports, you should use policy drop or such
[11:34] <Dr_willis> Eds,  if  you get it into a .iso file, you can mount them with the loopback device. or use the fuseiso tool
[11:34] <COBHC> hihoooo
[11:34] <Eds> !fuseiso
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fuseiso - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <pietro> erawfish_: my videocard is ati radeon x1600, i'm using vesa driver
[11:35] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: I am unsure of what you mean.
[11:35] <andi6> !iso
[11:35] <Dr_willis> Eds,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseIso
[11:35] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[11:35] <Eds> Thank You :)
[11:35] <Dr_willis> Eds,  or do it like the bot says. :) needs root access
[11:35] <COBHC> when you want to have the aplpha 5 of ubuntu 8.04   type in a terminal   update-manager -d
[11:36] <bazhang> COBHC: that would be for #ubuntu+1 thanks ;]
[11:36] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: does my iptables allow more than the 2 ports and the one service?
[11:36] <Eds> Thats fine. Iv got my laptop running hardy and my second work machine running 7.10 atm, try to see if I like the OS. Its very nice so far :)
[11:36] <COBHC> no prblem ;)
[11:36] <zoidberg_> hey guys...in pigdin...when logged on to AIM i cant send any files to my friend...but i can recieve...any help?
[11:37] <COBHC> i have the same problem in icq and msn
[11:37] <COBHC> dont know what to do^^
[11:37] <Eds> firewall problem perhaps?
[11:37] <realmerx> Tachdelan: actually I am curious now, how can it be possible that two boxes have the same WAN ip address?
[11:38] <COBHC> where can i edit my firewall setiings?
[11:38] <Tachdelan> realmerx: they don't? ;)
[11:39] <Tachdelan> realmerx: Actually, I think you just solved my problem!
[11:39] <realmerx> Tachdelan: well if you say that your server box is connected to your router and has the same ip as your router has?
[11:39] <Tachdelan> and andi6 that is
[11:39] <andi6> huh? ... i am sorry for that ;-)
[11:39] <tabman> I installed VirtualBox on ubuntu and put in Windows in the VM. Everything was working fine, I could access internet inside on windows in my VM. Just suddenly the internet has stopped working in it ?
[11:40] <pietro> anyone can help me please?
[11:41] <Tachdelan> realmerx & andi6: I think it may have to do with the fact that my router is using upnp and the server using the routers WAN ip. Upon connecting from this computer to the server, could it be that the router redirects incoming connections to this computer and not the server?
[11:41] <Voltxion> any idea why my install just won't boot now? I changed my grub, well added to it but grub loaded fine.
[11:41] <Eds> If you have a router your server cant use the WAN IP, it would have ports fowarded too it
[11:42] <realmerx> Tachdelan: yeah but I do not understand how your server machine can access internet from
[11:42] <Tachdelan> neither do I
[11:42] <archman> i'm using ndiswrapper for my wireless access; how do i temporarily shutdown ndis and up the native patched driver?
[11:42] <thirdy> how do i delete an every occurance of a file in a directory and sub dirs?
[11:42] <andi6> Tachdelan: that is dangerous, i hope you know that... :-)
[11:43] <realmerx> Tachdelan: if it has only external ip address?
[11:43] <thirdy> how do i delete an every occurance of a file in the current directory and sub dirs?
[11:43] <Tachdelan> but I guess I'll try switching to "normal" mode and give the router back it's WAN ip
[11:43] <Eds> thirdy; rm -r /directory
[11:43] <archman> i wan't do inject packets; with ndis it's not possible...
[11:43] <zoidberg_> hey guys...in pigdin...when logged on to AIM i cant send any files to my friend...but i can recieve...any help?
[11:43] <Tachdelan> andi6: what is?
[11:43] <andi6> thirdy: a file can appear only once in a given directory...
[11:43] <realmerx> Tachdelan: I would like to know about that technology that makes that happen, sounds interesting :)
[11:43] <Tachdelan> realmerx: hehehe
[11:43] <Starnestommy> zoidberg_: try asking in #pidgin.  They might know more about it
[11:43] <Voltxion> any idea why my install just won't boot now? I changed my grub, well added to it but grub loaded fine.
[11:44] <LoLLo> http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gs8sYe4uqM
[11:44] <realmerx> hmm does ifconfig shows WAP addresses as well?
[11:44] <Tachdelan> realmerx: WAP?
[11:44] <bazhang> LoLLo: is there a support question attached to that?
[11:44] <andi6> Tachdelan: well, sounds like 'inverse security by obscurity' : you do not know what sorts of stuff your router activated for you and the bots outside :-) ... [silent again]
[11:45] <thirdy> andi6, I want to do "del .*exe /s" command in windows, this command deletes every .exe in the current dir and sub dirs, how do I do this in linux?
[11:45] <realmerx> Tachdelan: sorry scratch that :p
[11:45] <LoLLo> hello baaaaz! uhm ... no :P
[11:45] <thirdy> Eds, I want to do "del .*exe /s" command in windows, this command deletes every .exe in the current dir and sub dirs, how do I do this in linux?
[11:45] <Tachdelan> andi6: well... seeing how noone can actually connect to my server, well...
[11:45] <realmerx> Tachdelan: I meant does it show WIFI interface addresses
[11:45] <bazhang> LoLLo: then best post it in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks ;]
[11:45] <tabman> anyone ?
[11:45] <andi6> thirdy: find . -name '*.exe' -exec echo rm {} \; .... if you feel comfortable, remove the echo
[11:45] <realmerx> Tachdelan: and yes it does
[11:45] <booster_> can anyone tell me how to open ports on ubuntu 7.10 ??? is their a gui interface i can get ???
[11:45] <Werdna> thirdy: find . -name \*.exe | xargs rm -f
[11:45] <bazhang> tabman what is your issue?
[11:46] <Tachdelan> realmerx: I guess so, but my server doesn't have wireless
[11:46] <mavi-> booster_: yes, add/remove software or software updates or synaptic
[11:46] <Voltxion> lycus: hello, are you there?
[11:46] <mavi-> booster_: if you mean the internet kid of ports install firestarter
[11:46] <LoLLo> okz .... guys a question : who is a member of the Community Council ? someone knows the irc channel of it ?
[11:47] <realmerx> andi6: do you understand how can his server machine access internet if it has the same ip address as the router has?
[11:47] <tabman> bazhang: I installed VirtualBox on ubuntu and put in Windows in the VM. Everything was working fine, I could access internet inside on windows in my VM. Just suddenly the internet has stopped working in it ?
[11:47] <erawfish_> realmerx: easy. it does NAT for his desktop
[11:47] <bazhang> LoLLo: you can /msg ubotu irc for a link of channels
[11:47] <booster_> mavi-, i need to open ports for open arena game...for some reason i cant see any servers in multi player
[11:47] <erawfish_> realmerx: I asked him how he does it but he still hasn't ansdwered
[11:47] <realmerx> erawfish_: what does?
[11:47] <bazhang> tabman bridged or nat?
[11:47] <realmerx> erawfish_: which machine?
[11:47] <erawfish_> realmerx: how his ubuntu does NAT
[11:47] <tabman> bazhang: NAT
[11:48] <erawfish_> his ubuntu/ftp server is doing NAT for his windows machine
[11:48] <realmerx> erawfish_: his local machine, server or router?
[11:48] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: is not
[11:48] <erawfish_> realmerx: it is the same
[11:48] <andi6> realmerx: well, it sounds as if it still does not work correctly, so i will not say anything about it :)
[11:48] <LoLLo> !msg
[11:48] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[11:48] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: then you didn't tell the truth
[11:48] <realmerx> erawfish_: oh
[11:48] <bazhang> tabman and the internet is fine on your ubuntu box still?
[11:48] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: excuse me?
[11:48] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: your ubuntu/ftp  cannot have the same local IP as your rouer's public IP. not possible
[11:48] <bazhang> !irc > LoLLo read the pm from the bot
[11:48] <tabman> bazhang: I'm on Ubuntu right now using that same internet connection, my VM is just not accessing the internet
[11:48] <pietro> boot problem... anyone please?
[11:49] <realmerx> erawfish_: but that would mean that the server machine should have two different addresses?
[11:49] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: that's why I said that my router HAS NO WAN IP
[11:49] <erawfish_> realmerx: yes. another thing he denied. any way you slice it: some time he didn't tell the truth
[11:49] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: a router ALWAYS has a WAN IP or it cannot work
[11:49] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: Please don't call me a liar
[11:49] <erawfish_> then don't lie
[11:49] <bazhang> tabman not used vbox much  I prefer vmware--have you tried restarting the guest os or shutting it down restarting in vbox?
[11:49] <LoLLo> thx baz always a gentlemen
[11:50] <nuno_nunes> hi ppl
[11:50] <bazhang> hi nuno_nunes
[11:50] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: if it does, then it doesn't tell me what it is or I would have told you
[11:50] <bazhang> hey guys calm down
[11:50] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: do you have a router or a (dsl)modem?
[11:50] <tabman> bazhang: I tried every damn thing, restarted VM, restarted Ubuntu, it was working 2 hours back, it just suddenly stopped working and I did not even install anything or change anything
[11:50] <andi6> i still wonder why you do not take a more standard path, so that people could actually help you?
[11:50] <realmerx> erawfish_: could it be possible that his router is bridged to some kind of ISP internal network
[11:50] <iositd_> Tachdelan, www.whatismyip.com <--- that will give you the WAN IP that your router haz
[11:50] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: if your ubunt7ftp has a public IP then it is a modem and your ubuntu is a router
[11:50] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: DSL modem built in router
[11:51] <bazhang> tabman that is very odd--not sure what to say let me check the forums,,hold on a sec
[11:51] <pietro> boot problem, anyone can help me please?
[11:51] <LoLLo> baz have u ever partecipate (only see obviously) to a discussion of the Community Council in the IRC channel ^
[11:51] <erawfish_> realmerx: then he hasn't the same IP on desktop via whatismyip.org and ubuntu
[11:51] <LoLLo> ?*
[11:51] <janis> Can anyone tell me how can i play AMR audio file
[11:51] <iositd_> pietro, be mroe specific please
[11:51] <Nereos> I have a new hard drive and I don't know what format i should you use to format it (partition). Should I take ext2 or ext3
[11:51] <Nereos> ?
[11:51] <Tachdelan> iositd: That ip is the same as the server BEHIND the modem/router has
[11:51] <iositd_> Tachdelan, then your modem isn't functioning as a router, merely as a bridge
[11:52] <erawfish_> realmerx: a public IP is unique on this world. no other way or the interwerbs don't work. but since he is unable to tell us his IPs and does a lot of handwaving by claiming "security" we'll never know
[11:52] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: I can turn off the ubuntu without loosing connectivity on this computer
[11:52] <andi6> Nereos: do not take ext2... ext3 or xfs (my default) i would say
[11:52] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: then your ubuntu cannot have the same IP as your desktop via whatismyip.org
[11:52] <janis> AMR audio on ubuntu,  can't find program for opening it
[11:52] <Tachdelan> iositd_: is that a standard mode for ubuntu 7.10 server install?
[11:52] <pietro> iositd_: at the startup, if i leave the system starts normally i got black screen, if i press ctrl+alt+f1 the system starts normally. i've an ati radeon x1600 and i'm using vesa driver
[11:52] <realmerx> iositd_: but that would mean that his router and server could not have the same ip?
[11:52] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: well, it does
[11:53] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: and your ubuntu must have a nonroutable IP like your vista (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[11:53] <juice_> apparently i need OpenGL Python bindings and the GtkGLExt Python bindings to play 3D chess. can someone point me?
[11:53] <[Hardy]TuTUXG> how could i change the output driver for quod libet?
[11:53] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: pastbein the ifconfig output on ubuntu then
[11:53] <janis> AMR audio
[11:53] <realmerx> I am not saying that he lies about his network but I am curious how this kind of network is possible
[11:53] <erawfish_> juice_: I already told you
[11:53] <Dr_willis> juice_,  ive not seen that ever work - in the last 3 releases of ubuntu.  Tried installing every gtk/gl thing i could find. none worked
[11:54] <erawfish_> realmerx: it is not. he maybe doesn't lie deliberately but he does lie
[11:54] <Nereos> andi6:  Gparted don't let me use xfs so it'll be ext3 :) what is  is difference b/t ext2 and ext3 ?
[11:54] <juice_> erawfish o ic sry.
[11:54] <atlef> journaling
[11:54] <icesword> journal
[11:54] <andi6> Nereos: ext3 writes a journal... well... see atlef
[11:54] <iositd_> Tachdelan, i haven't followed the whole discussion, but it comes down to this: you can only one _ONE_ computer with an ip on a network. Using a router you can have multiple computers on the same world ip yet internally they all have a different ip. If you type ifconfig or ipconfig (if you're running windows) on your server and your current box you will get 2 different ip's. The wold ip WILL be assigned to a router.
[11:54] <Tachdelan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58086/ <-- ifconfig on server
[11:54] <iositd_> Tachdelan, it can NOT be assigned to more then a single NIC
[11:54] <atlef> !ext3
[11:54] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[11:54] <Nereos> oki thx :)
[11:55] <Nereos>  good nite all
[11:55] <Tachdelan> Your IP Address is <IP_ADDRESS> <--- from whatsmyip
[11:55] <bazhang> tabman is this a static ip for the guest os or dynamic? is the xp system trying to get dns automatically or are you assigning it--two issues that I have seen others in the forums with--if you cannot find an answer they also have a channel #vbox
[11:55] <icesword> Nereos, here is night too
[11:55] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: ok. and what is the ubuntu IP? check with ifconfig
[11:55] <Tachdelan> and I'm using a speedtouch modem/router
[11:55] <iositd_> Tachdelan, your modem isn't functioning as a router. It's bridging
[11:55] <icesword> bazhang, hello
[11:55] <icesword> bazhang, good night
[11:55]  * andi6 wonders about the switch from (no ip addresses to the public at all) to (look maa -> here is my ip) ;-)
[11:55] <darren_> can anyone tell me how to attempt to repair a dual boot ubuntu / XP configuration as when trying to boot into XP I get the Windows XP Logo quickly followed by a BSOD for 1/2 second then back into the boot menu.
[11:55] <tabman> bazhang: I don't know what type IP it is
[11:55] <h4L1m> hello guys, i need the source code of the program ps, i've got the source code of procps but it is not there, there are just source codes like top or uptime, but i can't find the ps code, anyone knows where it is or where i can get it from?
[11:56] <iositd_> pietro, is it possible that it is missing the correct video settings for your screen? that it tries to go to high for your mode?
[11:56] <Tachdelan> iositd_: is that a standard mode for ubuntu 7.10 server install? (serving as a router that is?)
[11:56] <erawfish_> darren_: ask ##windows
[11:56] <Spzatt> How do i burn ubuntu to a disc, making it bootable?
[11:56] <iositd_> Tachdelan, it is possible for it to do so.
[11:56] <bazhang> tabman well you can take a look and set it in the preferences if I recall correctly may be worth a look
[11:56] <tabman> bazhang: but I'm not specially giving anything to xp, I just setup using the "home network" thing
[11:56] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: no it'S not. can you pleas tell us its IP?
[11:56] <iositd_> !install | Spzatt
[11:56] <ubotu> Spzatt: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[11:56] <janis> AMR audion files on ubuntu, Totem recognizes, but says no plugin, and there are no satch plugin reallly?
[11:56] <Dr_willis> Spzatt,   Under windows or linux?
[11:56] <andi6> h4L1m: get the package name with `dpkg-query -S /bin/ps`, then `apt-get source $pkg` (add a source line to your repos)
[11:56] <Tachdelan> erawfish_:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58086/
[11:56] <iositd_> pietro, have you installed the restricted drivers?
[11:56] <tabman> bazhang: look what and set what ?
[11:57] <h4L1m> andi6, ok i'll try it, thx
[11:57] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: iptables -L -t nat
[11:57] <BillyJoe> Can I go in to fstab and remove the UUID code and put in the /dev/sda1 names?
[11:57] <bazhang> tabman well he default behaviour is for it do it on its own you should tell it not to--here is the thread I have been reading it may or may not help: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-599163.html
[11:58] <vi390> I have a "ubuntu Studio" Installation, and want to have a Edubuntu (with every skin and so on) is there a way to do that without reinstlling everything ?
[11:58] <andi6> BillyJoe: sure
[11:58] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: and how does this IP get assigned to ubuntu?
[11:58] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58088/
[11:58] <white_eagle> hello, how can I disable the pics in the menus using gnome? they eat too much memory and I don't need them
[11:58] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: DHCP
[11:58] <andi6> BillyJoe: actually i replaced them by LABEL=$mylabel
[11:58] <pietro> iositd_: i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg so i think that the resolution is not the problem, where i can see the resolution used by system at the startup time?
[11:58] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: and your windows box gets assigned its IP <IP_ADDRESS> via DHCP too?
[11:58] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: yes
[11:58] <atlef> vi390 :  sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[11:58] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: that cannot ever work
[11:58] <andi6> white_eagle: in application menus or the gnome menus?
[11:58] <realmerx> Tachdelan: btw when you use your server machine browsing internet and when you use different browsers - firefox, opera and try whatismyipaddress.com then you get the same external ip always?
[11:58] <iositd_> pietro, it's written in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... have you installed the restricted drivers?
[11:58] <atlef> i think'
[11:59] <vi390> atlef: thanks
[11:59] <h4L1m> andi6, it says procps: /bin/ps, but i've got procps and can't find the code for ps, in procps there are more source codes for different programs, but i need only of ps
[11:59] <realmerx> Tachdelan: maybe there is still some kind of proxy
[11:59] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: your router and your ubuntu have the same IP. that's not possible unless your router is broken
[11:59] <BillyJoe> andi6: What is LABEL=$mylabel and how do I run it?
[11:59] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: It worked fine while the server was running XP and not linux
[11:59] <white_eagle> andi6: yeah
[11:59] <KojiroS> hi, can anyone help me install modem drivers for gutsy gibbon? i have the drivers but installing them is not working :( please help :)
[11:59] <pietro> iositd_: i tried by after that was no possible start the xserver, just black screen
[11:59] <Tachdelan> realmerx: it's a server install... no GUI
[11:59] <andi6> white_eagle: which ones?
[12:00] <realmerx> Tachdelan: damn it :)
[12:00] <white_eagle> andi6: all of them
[12:00] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: it cannot work fine. no 2 machines ever can have the same IP. if your windows box says "ping  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58088/
[12:00] <iositd_> pietro, could you switch to a terminal after that?
[12:00] <andi6> BillyJoe: oh, i labelled my partitions, nothing to worry about
[12:00] <pietro> yes
[12:00] <ubuntufreak> Problem with my GRUB after installing Debian 4.0 here is my fdisk output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58089/
[12:00] <janis> AMR audio?
[12:00] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: it cannot work fine. no 2 machines ever can have the same IP. if your windows box says "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" which machine should it ping? your router or your ubuntu?
[12:00] <realmerx> Tachdelan: you just told me that whatismyipaddress.com gave you from the server machine the same address as your vista machine did?
[12:00] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: what dous /sbin/route say on ubuntu?
[12:00] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: That I do not know
[12:00] <h4L1m> andi6, it says procps: /bin/ps, but i've got procps and can't find the code for ps, in procps there are more source codes for different programs, but i need only of ps
[12:00] <Tachdelan> realmerx: yes
[12:01] <andi6> white_eagle: system > settings > appearance > interface i think for application (libgnome) applicaitons
[12:01] <KojiroS> i get the following error msg (breif descristion): ./configure: line 477: ./t: No such file or directory
[12:01] <KojiroS> rm: cannot remove `./t': No such file or directory
[12:01] <KojiroS> ** error
[12:01] <KojiroS> could not determine a proper UTS_RELEASE
[12:01] <KojiroS> ** compilation error
[12:01] <FloodBot1> KojiroS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:01] <BillyJoe> O wow I did not know you could do that.
[12:01] <janis> AMR audio?
[12:01] <realmerx> Tachdelan: well if your server machine does not have GUI how can you tell?
[12:01] <atlef> !modem | KojiroS
[12:01] <ubotu> KojiroS: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[12:01] <pietro> iositd_: yes, is what a i did to start the dpkg-recopnfig after installed the restricted video drivers
[12:01] <andi6> h4L1m: one minute, please
[12:01] <h4L1m> andi6, ok
[12:01] <realmerx> Tachdelan: what browser you used to access internet then from the server machine?
[12:01] <iositd_> pietro, try and put my name when replying. That way i get notified. You also did or did not do dpkg-reconfigure?
[12:01] <BillyJoe> thank you.  I will start with the dev anem and just know that is something I defently want to learn about
[12:01] <KojiroS> yeah followed those instructions, still not working :(
[12:01] <janis> AMR audio???  not playing
[12:01] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: a whole lot of gibberish... when using pico that is
[12:02] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: pico?
[12:02] <KojiroS> !modem
[12:02] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[12:02] <Tachdelan> realmerx: I'm sorry! I misread the question
[12:02] <erawfish_> I wanted the output of /sbin/route  nothing about pico
[12:02] <ganu> while installing oracle i am getting an error "OUI-10036:could not create the inventory location.you may not have the permission to write in this location"
[12:02] <shishirm1> hi can u guys suggest a nice mail reader which can be used to write shell scripts.. i basically want to copy a  new mail to a file as and when it comes and then process it
[12:02] <atlef> KojiroS: then i dont know
[12:02] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: especially the line starting with "default"
[12:02] <white_eagle> andi6: thanks
[12:02] <janis> I need get AMR audio playing
[12:02] <Spzatt> How do i burn ubuntu to a disc, making it bootable?
[12:02] <Tachdelan> realmerx: I check www.whatsmyip.org from this computer and ifconfig on server
[12:02] <atlef> KojiroS: maybe someone else wil know
[12:02] <erawfish_> Spzatt: but the image as image
[12:02] <pietro> iositd_: i did it, and i choosed the vesa driver, after that the system started but just if i press ctrl+alt+f1
[12:02] <white_eagle> !livecd | Spzatt
[12:02] <ompaul> shishirm1, mutt is fairly flexible
[12:02] <ubotu> Spzatt: The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.
[12:02] <bazhang> Spzatt: from windows?
[12:02] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: I did sudo pico /sbin/route
[12:02] <realmerx> Tachdelan: ok I ask then once again - what ip you get when you access internet (world wide web) from your server machine directly
[12:03] <atlef> !burn
[12:03] <ompaul> !burn | Spzatt
[12:03] <ubotu> Spzatt: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[12:03] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: you shoud do /sbin/route  I never said anything about pico
[12:03] <pirelly> ello
[12:03] <Spzatt> Well, how do i burn it? ive tried several burning programs.
[12:03] <iositd_> pietro, if you have an ati card and have installed the correct drivers, you should choose the ati driver in the screen when selecting a driver when running dpkg-reconfig
[12:03] <Frogzoo> shishirm1: you can use procmail..
[12:03] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: oops, sorry! tmi atm
[12:03] <bazhang> Spzatt: from windows or linux
[12:03] <shishirm1> ompaul: i have mutt on.. but i am not able to find a option to copy the mails to a file as and when they some
[12:03] <shishirm1> come
[12:03] <pirelly> jest ktos pl?
[12:03] <ubuntufreak> when i give the find /boot/grub/stage1 it gives Error 15: File not found here is fdisk output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58089/
[12:03] <erawfish_> !pl | pirelly
[12:03] <ubotu> pirelly: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:03] <Spzatt> thanks all
[12:03] <ompaul> !pl | pirelly
[12:03] <bazhang> polish pirelly?
[12:03] <realmerx> Tachdelan: I mean you go physically to your server box, use some kind of textual browser and give the result you get when you put in the address whatismyipaddress.com
[12:03] <pirelly> tak
[12:03] <Rangar> hi folk.. I have an issue with ./configure ... I need to pass it the flags --with-opengl ... all is fine, but it gets to checking OpenGL Libs and sayd they do not exist.. the problem is, they do.. using AMD64 7.10, anyone have any ideas please?
[12:04] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58090/
[12:04] <shishirm1> Frogzoo: can you elaborate a lil more as to what is and how it works
[12:04] <pietro> iositd_: i'll try again and let you know, tnx
[12:04] <ganu> while installing ORACLE i am getting an error "OUI-10036:could not create the inventory location.you may not have the permission to write in this location"
[12:04] <janis> AMR audio  AMR audio AMR audio  Can't find any way to open it. Totem Says no plugin, I searched, and I could not find any AMR plugins. I really need that amr Audio going plz!
[12:04] <Tachdelan> realmerx: I'm unsure how.
[12:04] <ompaul> shishirm1, I'll install and poke it - don't use it much these days
[12:04] <realmerx> Tachdelan: or you can use ssh to log to your server machine and give the result using some textual browser :)
[12:04] <lordleemo> janis: follow andrew 46 instructions  works for mplayer  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/playing-not-converting-amr-files-on-linux-613966/#post3068941
[12:04] <Tachdelan> realmerx: and btw... can't I use ssh?
[12:04] <realmerx> Tachdelan: now we are getting somewhere
[12:04] <Strawberryjam> Chris angel being run over by a steamroller beats linux any day lol...
[12:04] <archman> how to shutdown ndiswrapper and up the native driver??
[12:05] <realmerx> Tachdelan: you mean you do not know if you can access internet from your server machine :)
[12:05] <janis> Thanks
[12:05] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: sorry. should have been "route -n" to get  numerical IPs I guess
[12:05] <tabman> bazhang: somehow it has worked, I don't know why it was working without it since last 5 days :) by the way what search query did you use to get this result ?
[12:05] <shishirm1> ompaul: its nice to use for a user.. but not so good to write scripts to automate stuff!!
[12:05] <Tachdelan> realmerx: I can... I've used wget
[12:05] <evilofisho> Does anyone here know how to unpack lzm files on ubuntu?
[12:05] <pirelly> zna ktoś POLSKI ??
[12:05] <realmerx> Tachdelan: ok
[12:05] <realmerx> Tachdelan: ssh into your server machine
[12:06] <realmerx> and use lynx to www.whatismyipaddress.com
[12:06] <Starnestommy> pirelly: try #ubuntu-pl
[12:06] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58091/
[12:06] <h4L1m> evilofisho, unlzma is the command for that, maybe you need to install it first with sudo apt-get install unlzma
[12:06] <bazhang> tabman hehe good news! I just typed ubuntu gutsy virtualbox no internet guest xp (in teh google) and there you have it ;]
[12:06] <Tachdelan> realmerx: I've been logged on the whole time
[12:06] <atlef> janis: have you looked at this : http://www.niemueller.de/wiki/index.php?ConvertVideoTo3GP
[12:06] <evilofisho> h4L1m, thanks a lot!
[12:06] <ompaul> shishirm1, then I guess procmail is your tool de jour
[12:06] <tabman> bazhang: thanks a lot man
[12:06] <atlef> some info there. ignore fedora
[12:06] <h4L1m> evilofisho, much fun :)
[12:07] <bazhang> tabman no worries ;]
[12:07]  * Tachdelan needs a quick trip to the bathroom... brb!
[12:07] <realmerx> Tachdelan: so what you get when you lynx from server machine :)
[12:07] <ubuntufreak> any help with my GRUB in Ubuntu 7.10, when i give the find /boot/grub/stage1 it gives Error 15: File not found here is fdisk output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58089/
[12:07] <shishirm1> ompaul: ok i will try procmail today
[12:07] <ganu>  any 1 help with oracle installation?
[12:07] <realmerx> Tachdelan: but be back, your problem looks interesting
[12:08] <atlef> janis: even more in this search : http://tinyurl.com/yvj9sf
[12:08]  * Tachdelan is back
[12:09] <evilofisho> h4L1m, For some reason it's complaining about the suffix.
[12:09] <andi6> h4L1m: hm, i know that /bin/kill comes from skill.c, but i am still looking for the source of ps :-)
[12:09] <realmerx> Tachdelan: so let me know about the lynx results :)
[12:09] <Tachdelan> realmerx: How do I use lynx? lynx www.whatsmyip.org ?
[12:09] <edi9999> hi
[12:10] <realmerx> what is the default textual browser in ubuntu btw?
[12:10] <realmerx> :)
[12:10] <h4L1m> andi6, hmm, i don't know where to search for it
[12:10] <erawfish_> lynx, links, links2, w3m
[12:10] <iositd_> realalien_, it's lynx
[12:10] <erawfish_> instally one of those
[12:10] <iositd_> Tachdelan, correct
[12:10] <h4L1m> evilofisho, do you mean while unpacking?
[12:10] <Tachdelan> realmerx: I installed lynx... runing it now
[12:10] <realmerx> Tachdelan: great
[12:10] <Tachdelan>  What's My IP Address? Your IP is <IP_ADDRESS> (p1 of 4)  <--- from lynx
[12:10] <andi6> h4L1m: seems like it is the objects in po/ linked together
[12:11] <edi9999> thks for you IP adress
[12:11] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: get anything useful from that printout?
[12:11] <realmerx> Tachdelan: and it is the same address as your vista and router have?
[12:11] <Tachdelan> realmerx: yes
[12:11] <h4L1m> andi6, you mean it has not it's own source code?
[12:11] <sbox> hello all, can anyone recommend a decent headless torrent client thats not azurues of fluxbox
[12:11] <evilofisho> h4L1m, Well, it doesn't get that far, it just goes "Unknown suffix -- unchanged".
[12:11] <Voltxion> !hello
[12:11] <andi6> h4L1m: no, it is source could consists of the *.c files in ps/, main() is in display.c
[12:12] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[12:12] <bazhang> rtorrent sbox
[12:12] <h4L1m> evilofisho, hmm don't know it allways worked without problems for me
[12:12] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: are you running the ubuntu via ethernet and the vista via usb connection to the speedtouch?
[12:12] <h4L1m> evilofisho, ask the channel :)
[12:12] <evilofisho> h4L1m, Alright, thanks anyway. : P
[12:12] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: No. Both use wired ethernet
[12:12] <andi6> realmerx: is the problem solved now?
[12:12] <erawfish_> cause even if the speedtouch acts as a brige it still doesn't really make sense
[12:13] <h4L1m> andi6, well i'll take a look at that, thx for that man
[12:13] <Voltxion> What would you all suggest? Installing windows XP then Ubuntu onto a seperate partition? or the other way around then reinstalling grub ?
[12:13] <erawfish_> a trnasparent bridge that is
[12:13] <iositd_> Voltxion, first xp, then ubuntu
[12:13] <realmerx> andi6: well I still do not understand how network like this could work
[12:13] <andi6> hehe
[12:13] <realmerx> andi6: how can it be that his server (ubuntu) only gets WAN ip?
[12:14] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: well... I don't know HOW it works, but I know it DID work just fine while running XP on the same computer.
[12:14] <iositd_> realmerx, i've been thinking ... in theory it's possible that his router is splitting it all up ... and acts like a proxy ...
[12:14] <erawfish_> realmerx: via bridging this is easy. the trouble comes when you think how the vista PC gets a ANT IP too at the same time
[12:14] <iositd_> realmerx, thus giving out only the external ip to the inside
[12:15] <realmerx> iositd_: could I read about this kind of configuration somewhere?
[12:15] <Tachdelan> iositd_: Could this be why noone can connect to my server?
[12:15] <realmerx> iositd_: sounds interesting
[12:15] <iositd_> Tachdelan, yes. in theory it's possible.
[12:15] <erawfish_> iositd_: it can act as a transparent bridge for ubuntu fine, but hwo can it provide NAT at the same time with the same public IP for windows? either one of the things is OK, together they make no sense
[12:15] <iositd_> realmerx, uhm i just thought of the possibility, never really read about it
[12:15] <andi6> erawfish_, iositd_: ok, we agree that this might be possible somehow... but what is the gain?
[12:16] <kdeuser^> Heya all
[12:16] <iositd_> andi6, none ... other then that the router would just provide a bridge / split function'
[12:16] <erawfish_> andi6: I doN#t agree it's possible. either one thing is, together no
[12:16] <erawfish_> and even when one says it works, I cn't see a gain. a pure NAT is a LOT simpler
[12:16] <ganu> can any 1 help with oracle installation?
[12:16] <andi6> ok :)
[12:16] <Tachdelan> erawfish_: you mean the router shouldn't be able to provide the server with a WAN ip and this one with a LAN ip?
[12:16] <iositd_> erawfish_, it can't. If it is bridging it should only do so for one IP. There is no gain in having such a configuration. NAT would make much more sense
[12:17] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: yes
[12:17] <erawfish_> Tachdelan: the WAN IP for ubuntu si bridging and the NAT IP for Vista is ANT. it cannot do both
[12:17] <iositd_> Tachdelan, did you set the server in the dmz zone or what?
[12:17] <Eds> Anyone play world of warcraft on Ubuntu
[12:17] <simplyubuntu> hey all - have a slight problem here. I can't see any of my gnome panel applets! every time I log in it says the applets could not be loaded! can anyone help???
[12:17] <wellenreiter> Text hier eingeben...hello
[12:17] <iositd_> !de | wellenreiter
[12:17] <ubotu> wellenreiter: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:18] <Tachdelan> iositd_: There's no option for that on my modem/router (from now on just router, but it's the same box)
[12:18] <ledginin> Can anyone give me an image viewer that i can use in a terminal, without X?
[12:18] <archman> is there a channel for networking???
[12:18] <andi6> simplyubuntu: anything in ~/.xsession-errors?
[12:18] <iositd_> Tachdelan, is there anything related to this that you can set on your router?
[12:18] <simplyubuntu> andi6 just checking...
[12:18] <Voltxion> Tachdelan: your server computer is the router?
[12:19] <andi6> Voltxion: no =)
[12:19] <Tachdelan> iositd_: Not that I have found... Which is why I used the current setting as it worked fine when running XP on the server.
[12:19] <Tachdelan> Voltxion: no
[12:19] <simplyubuntu> andi6, what am I looking for?
[12:19] <realmerx> The gain for me that I never have heard about network like this
[12:20] <andi6> simplyubuntu: crashes and alike...
[12:20] <Voltxion> andi6: then the way im been reading this... it only makes sense if the other computer on the network use teh server as a router to teh outside...
[12:20] <OiPenguin> I get an error about security risk when trying to open .jpg-files. How do I avoid this? I'm forced to right click to open and thumbnails are not shown in gThumb
[12:20] <realmerx> so it is interesting new information
[12:20]  * Tachdelan is using a speedtouch 546T2
[12:20] <iositd_> Tachdelan, just to be sure ... is it possible that you can make a screenshot of the main config panel of your router?
[12:20] <ganu> error in oracle installation...can any 1 help?
[12:20]  * LukeLC cannot help
[12:20] <andi6> OiPenguin: these files are not on a local drive, are not they?
[12:20] <st0n3cutt3r> is there a forum for discussion on/suggestions for ubuntu?
[12:20] <Tachdelan> iositd_: I'm not sure that would do you any good...
[12:21] <OiPenguin> andi6: They are on a local drive.
[12:21] <cambazz> hello. amarok wont play radios saying no decoder is found
[12:21] <cambazz> what decoders must I install
[12:21] <Tachdelan> iositd_: Not much info on that page
[12:21] <iositd_> Tachdelan, i'm fairly sure it would. They have a rather complicated config panel and they do have these options
[12:21] <iositd_> Tachdelan, i have a speedtouch as well
[12:21] <Tachdelan> iositd_: Then I am unsure which page you'd like to see...
[12:22] <iositd_> Tachdelan, just the main page
[12:22] <realmerx> hmm Speedtouch 546 - Residential ADSL gateway
[12:22] <andi6> OiPenguin: are that real jpeg files or do they only end on .jpg? ;-) ... if you wanted you could check by running `file $somefile`
[12:22] <simplyubuntu> andi6 under each of the applets in xsession-errors, it has an error like this http://pastebin.com/m585dbc12
[12:23] <Voltxion> Anyone feel like like giving advice on dualbooting XP with ubuntu?
[12:23] <OiPenguin> andi6: They are real. Imported from my digital camera. It's been a problem for while, but wasn't a problem initially. I'm unable to identify anything I've done which may have caused this problem.
[12:23] <sintfix> Do you know any repository for wxGTK 2.7.8?
[12:23] <Breakage> hmm just looking though /etc/groups and was wondering if i should add my user to the group "users" there's nothing about this in the install guide. also i just added my user to games :D
[12:23] <andi6> OiPenguin: what does `file` say?  and what about `ls -l $file`?
[12:24] <Sam1337> Can I create a ~/ partition?
[12:24] <andi6> OiPenguin: have you run a compositing manager before?
[12:24] <st0n3cutt3r> Voltxion: there are many good, and thorough guides available online if you search for "dual boot windows ubuntu"
[12:24] <Sam1337> Can I create a ~/ partition or does it have to be a /home partition?
[12:24] <simplyubuntu> andi76?
[12:24] <simplyubuntu> andi6?
[12:24] <andi6> simplyubuntu: have you run a compositing manager before?
[12:24] <andi6> OiPenguin: sorry
[12:24] <OiPenguin> andi6: I believe I've tried compiz, but I never got the hang of it.
[12:24] <Breakage> well ok can someone check there /etc/groups and see if there under the "users" group
[12:25] <simplyubuntu> of course... compiz running right now
[12:25] <Sam1337> their*
[12:25] <Sam1337> they're*
[12:25] <andi6> simplyubuntu: are you brave?  then try `killall gnome-panel` :)
[12:25] <simplyubuntu> hehe
[12:25] <simplyubuntu> was just about to ;)
[12:26] <Tachdelan> iositd_: http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.bbc8a2ada6.jpg
[12:26] <OiPenguin> andi6: lars@LITE-U:~/Skrivebord/2008-03-02--11.10.46$ file 00001.jpg
[12:26] <OiPenguin> 00001.jpg: JPEG image data, EXIF standard 2.2
[12:26] <Tachdelan> iositd_: sorry... hang on
[12:26] <iositd_> Tachdelan, yeah you have almost the same router i have and they do have settings related to this
[12:27] <iositd_> Tachdelan, ( i can make that out of that small pic :P )
[12:27] <simplyubuntu> andi6 no luck
[12:27] <andi6> iositd_: not bad :)
[12:27] <Tachdelan> iositd_: try this one... http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/bbc8a2ada6.jpg
[12:28] <iositd_> Tachdelan, yeah ... you can set the NAT settings under the Game & Application Sharing
[12:28] <Coffie> can anyone help me with connecting to my wireless network?
[12:28] <felix> hi :)
[12:28] <andi6> simplyubuntu: can you delete and readd applets?
[12:28] <Tachdelan> iositd_: But could it be that the server itself is blocking incoming connections? anything other than iptables I can check?
[12:28] <OiPenguin> andi6: lars@LITE-U:~/Skrivebord/2008-03-02--11.10.46$ ls -l 00001.jpg
[12:28] <OiPenguin> -rw-rw-r-- 1 lars lars<PHONE_NUMBER>-03-02 11:10 00001.jpg
[12:28] <lordleemo> simplyubuntu:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install gnome-panel gnome-applets  then try a reboot might work.
[12:28] <Tachdelan> iositd_: I know, but not DMZ
[12:28] <iositd_> Tachdelan, i'm not a master on that ( i spend 3 hours getting my own fw up)
[12:28] <Breakage> should I be under the group "users" in etc/groups?
[12:29] <andi6> iositd_: ha, i know that jpeg file, just by the file size ;-)
[12:29] <iositd_> Tachdelan, speedtouch routers don't have dmz, you have to set ports manually)
[12:29] <iositd_> andi6, hmm?
[12:29] <felix> I've configured my kernel now and it's compiling. I started the compile with make-kpkg binary. Is that Ok? Sry for bad english :)
[12:29] <Tachdelan> erawfish_, realmerx: could it be that the server itself is blocking incoming connections? anything other than iptables I can check?
[12:29] <Coffie> can anyone help me with connecting to my wireless network?
[12:29] <Tachdelan> iositd_: but I shouldn't need to with my current setup
[12:30] <andi6> iositd_: well, please just ignore me
[12:30] <andi6> OiPenguin: any warning when you run `display $file`?
[12:30] <amazing> does anyone use compiz?
[12:31] <Breakage> should I be under the group "users" in etc/groups?
[12:31] <simplyubuntu> andi6, lordleemo, done the reinstall, will reboot and be back shortly.
[12:31] <lordleemo> simplyubuntu: ok m8 i had a similar thing worked for me
[12:31] <OiPenguin> andi6: display opens the file instantly without warning
[12:31] <andi6> Breakage: not necessarily, i am neither
[12:31] <iositd_> Tachdelan, yes you should forward the ports unless you disabled your router entirely. Try to forward the ports you want in the correct section
[12:32] <daning> Have anyone installed globus in ubuntu?
[12:32] <Breakage> andi6: ok thanks alot :)
[12:32] <Tachdelan> iositd_: Sorry, I forgot you didn't follow the conversation from the start... I have forwarded the ports already.
[12:33] <ezra1964> good morning
[12:33] <iositd_> Tachdelan, try and read the questions more carefully next time ... i asked if you had any section on your router that did have info on this ... obviously this section did ...
[12:33] <daning> ezra1964: morning
[12:33] <felix> pleeeeaas help me^^
[12:33] <andi6> erawfish_: btw, you did not tell me why forwarding 21 for passive ftp does not suffice yet
[12:33] <Tachdelan> iositd_: I apologize
[12:33] <bobbo> Did the latest kernel update break Nvidia/X for anyone else (Hardy)?
[12:33] <iositd_> Tachdelan, no problem.
[12:33] <KojiroSoma> where do i get kernel-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz from?
[12:34] <daning> anyone use globus with ubuntu?
[12:34] <felix> kernel.org
[12:34] <andi6> KojiroSoma: better even a mirror thereof
[12:34] <iositd_> Tachdelan, as it appears you're not running the dhcp server on your router. ... correct?
[12:34] <KojiroSoma> andi6:  huh?
[12:34] <felix> KojiroSoma: kernel.org
[12:34] <ezra1964> does anyone know what scheduler 7.04 uses? I dropped a script in cron.daily but it didnt run, and I see crontab is empty
[12:34] <andi6> KojiroSoma: http://www.kernel.org/mirrors/
[12:35] <KojiroSoma> im trying to follow the install modem guide but it goes Go to your downloaded kernel folder and it never told me how to do that step :/
[12:35] <Tachdelan> iositd_: I am
[12:35] <rambo3> !find linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:35] <Tachdelan> iositd_: At least I'm pretty sure I am... Can't seem to find the right page atm. :S
[12:35] <ubotu> Package/file linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS> does not exist in gutsy
[12:35] <iositd_> Tachdelan, if you would then you'd get an internal ip (c class?) starting with 192.168.1.* on default settings
[12:35] <andi6> ezra1964: i doubt these script will appear in crontab
[12:36] <rambo3> could be 182,168.0.*
[12:36] <phix> w00t
[12:36] <Tachdelan> iositd_: DHCP Server: Enabled
[12:36] <phix> I got sound working!
[12:36] <rambo3> er 192
[12:36] <simplyubuntu> andi6, lordleemo it worked!
[12:36] <ezra1964> well usually there are commands to run the scripts in cron.daily etc
[12:36] <iositd_> rambo3, speedtouch starts on 192.168.1.* usually afaik
[12:36] <ezra1964> but when i do a crontab -e
[12:36] <Tachdelan> this one uses 10.0.0.x series
[12:36] <andi6> simplyubuntu: what did you reinstall, btw?
[12:36] <phix> ASUS F3SV requires the latest alsa stuff plus it needs to be modprobed as model=hp
[12:36] <ezra1964> there are no commands at all
[12:37] <phix> for any one who is interested
[12:37] <Tachdelan> iositd_: internal router ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:37] <iositd_> Tachdelan, .... now you've got me 100% confused ... how many routers / servers / boxes / anything else are you running?
[12:37] <andi6> ezra1964: so does /usr/sbin/cron run?
[12:37] <ezra1964> good question
[12:38] <KojiroSoma> is there a way to install modem drivers throguh mdprobe?
[12:38] <simplyubuntu> andu6, gnome-panel, gnome-panel-applets
[12:38] <Tachdelan> iositd_: 1 modem/router, 1 ubuntu 7.10 server install pc and 1 vista gaming computer
[12:38] <Tachdelan> iositd_: that's all
[12:38] <andi6> simplyubuntu: did you have a kernel oops or update recently?
[12:38] <iositd_> Tachdelan, then where does your router fit in?
[12:38] <realmerx> Tachdelan: I am currently reading about bridges :)
[12:38] <Tachdelan> iositd_: my router is my modem and vice versa
[12:38] <ezra1964> according to ps it is running, its just that its config is empty
[12:39] <BillyJoe> I am use to always adding things by vim in to the fstab, is there a way to doit from the command? for exsample "mount -addtofstab /dev/sda1 /mnt/winblows"
[12:39] <lordleemo> andi6: i had an update last week caused the same problem
[12:39] <KojiroSoma> is there a way to install modem drivers throguh mdprobe?