[00:00] <AndySpain> hi
[00:00] <AndySpain> I would like to get kmail work with gpg, but it doesn't
[00:01] <AndySpain> how can I do that?
[00:01] <AndySpain> It actually encrypts with gpg, but i cannot decrypt nor sign
[00:08] <yrjokin> someone told me installing virtualbox from their website would be different from using apt-get - which is best?
[00:12] <AndySpain> apt-get keeps it always more or less current with the automatic updates and best fits your system and downloads all dependencies automatically
[00:12] <AndySpain> however it might be a pretty old version
[00:12] <raylu> yrjokin: from their website, you get the non-free version which has support for usb devices or something
[00:12] <AndySpain> as the versions in aptitude are normally a bit outdated
[00:13] <raylu> AndySpain: ...what?
[00:13] <raylu> AndySpain: apt-get and aptitude use the same repositories, etc
[00:13] <AndySpain> yes
[00:13] <AndySpain> I know
[00:13] <AndySpain> but they are not always very up to date
[00:13] <raylu> AndySpain: then why do you say apt-get is more up to date?
[00:13] <AndySpain> website is more upt to date
[00:13] <skierpage> Is "'System Settings' appears neither in Kickoff's System or Settings application menu" a KDE bug or Kubuntu bug?
[00:14] <raylu> AndySpain: oh. yeah. but then removing them isn't as simple
[00:14] <AndySpain> that's true, too
[00:14] <AndySpain> can anybody tell me how to make kmail work with gpg?
[00:15] <AndySpain> it simply doesn't ask for passfrases
[00:16] <yrjokin> raylu: you meant the closed source version has USB support - I almost took you to mean the opposite of that
[00:17] <mazz147> c'è qualche italiano ? :)
[00:19] <AndySpain> mazz147: c'è kubuntu-it, credo
[00:21] <lorecaster> trying to install SKYPE on ubuntu 9.04... having some problems. http://pastebin.com/m5506e390
[00:25] <tsimpson> lorecaster: use "sudo apt-get -f install" to get the dependencies
[00:26] <raylu> yrjokin: yes. but by closed-source, i meant non-free
[00:26] <raylu> yrjokin: i meant what i said, rather
[00:29] <lorecaster> tsimpson: still crashed
[00:29] <lorecaster> same errors
[00:30] <tsimpson> it should try to resolve the dependencies
[00:31] <lorecaster> http://pastebin.com/m559d5d44
[00:32] <tsimpson> lorecaster: ok, install libqt4-gui first, then skype
[00:36] <lorecaster> working on it tsimpson
[00:38] <lorecaster> tsimpson: i just installed libqt4-gui through synaptic, and still got the same error... will restart and see if that helps
[00:39] <dag_> @all: Hi there!
[00:42] <dag_> did some of you upgraded from kubuntu 8.10 to 9.04? issues?
[00:45] <jacalope> so my knetworkmanager uses 200MB of memory in 9.04.... Isn't that a bit much?
[00:47] <jacalope> k4284
[00:49] <dag_> jacalope: your sentence seems an answer to my previous question...
[00:51] <jacalope> dag_: well, actually, my experience personally has been one of greater stability, but I just noticed the knetworkmanager thing and it seems odd
[01:00] <dag_> jacalope: today i spoke with a guy that encountered an issue with KNetworkManager in 9.04
[01:00] <dag_> jacalope: I'm a little scared to upgrade right now, although the temptation is really great
[01:02] <dwidmann> dag_: wouldn't be the first I've heard about issues with network manager in 9.04, and I'm sure it won't be the last either
[01:04] <dag_> jacalope: nor is the first time that knetworkmanager is a bit buggy! ;)
[01:05] <earle> I gave up on knetworkmanager after the 9.04 upgrade and switched to wicd.
[01:05] <earle> Sorry K folks :)
[01:06] <dag_> earle: isn't wicd just a wi_fi network manager?
[01:06] <BluesKaj> jacalope, there's a fix in the works , checkout launchpad , there are some suggestions there for adding a repos that will add an experimenatl version that seems to work on my laptop . Make sure you purge the existing network manager , then install the new one before rebooting
[01:06] <mefisto__> very minor issue with vlc interface: I can't get the video window to embed in the main interface - it always shows as a separate window. anyone else with this problem?
[01:07] <earle> dag_: "just"? I don't get you...
[01:07] <KiRiLoS> mefisto__, the last version is like that,they will fix it in the next version.
[01:08] <mefisto__> KiRiLoS: ok, thanks. I'll give up on playing with those settings :)
[01:08] <dag_> earle: can wicd manage every kind of network?
[01:09] <earle> it's happy with wired and wireless
[01:09] <KiRiLoS> mefisto__, you do that,i was in the same position a few hours ago,and then i googled the prob and i show that it's actually a bug or something.u can google it 4 more info ;)
[01:09] <dag_> earle: that's what I meant! tnx :)
[01:09] <earle> no worries :)
[01:10] <earle> I find its interface much easier than knetworkmanager's
[01:10] <dag_> earle: I'll give it a try
[01:10] <dag_> earle: maybe there's also a plasmoid for that
[01:11] <Captain_Haddock> just upgraded to 9.4 ... immediate issue is that my mouse pointer is invisible
[01:11] <Captain_Haddock> mouse works though
[01:11] <earle> there is, yes, I haven't tried it yet though
[01:11] <Captain_Haddock> I've tried resetting the pointer theme in system settings etc., to no avail
[01:14] <dag_> captain_haddock: sorry for the (maybe so) stupid question...did you tried a reboot?
[01:14] <Captain_Haddock> dag_: yep
[01:14] <mefisto__> KiRiLoS: did you find the vlc 1.0 pre-release ppa? I'm going to try it. apparently this issue is resolved in that version
[01:16] <KiRiLoS> mefisto__, nope,i didnt even search that output video aint a big prob for me,thanks for the info anyway!i'll wait till the next stable release :)
[01:16] <mortici> is there anyway to just make a specific file out of the source instead of making the whole source?
[01:16] <dag_> captain_haddock: ok, i'm here to listen some rumors about jaunty upgrade, 'cause fear a bit to upgrade my kubuntu version
[01:19] <jacalope> oh cool... thanks for the tip BluesKaj!
[01:27] <servneo2009> teste
[01:29] <KiRiLoS> I have a sound problem,when i use an app like vlc or amarok and play a track,then every app that uses sound doesnt seem to work.Any help ?
[01:33] <repbolivar04> hola
[01:33] <f3n1x> do u have audio drive intalled?
[01:33] <f3n1x> hola
[01:33] <repbolivar04> que tal es el 9.04
[01:33] <KiRiLoS> f3n1x, well i didnt install any,but it works if i only use one app at a time
[01:33] <f3n1x> mm personalmente me sorprendio
[01:34] <f3n1x> no me gusta ubuntu
[01:34] <f3n1x> pero probe esta y me la quede
[01:34] <repbolivar04> el kubuntu 9.04 pero hay harware que no detecta
[01:34] <KiRiLoS> f3n1x, if u are talkin to me,try some English :P
[01:35] <f3n1x> not that was to another person who speak spanish
[01:35] <f3n1x> am sorry if my english is bad
[01:35] <f3n1x> or an indian english
[01:35] <f3n1x> lol
[01:35] <KiRiLoS> :P um it's ok
[01:35] <KiRiLoS> do u have any solutions for my problem ?
[01:35] <faileas> KiRiLoS: sounds almost like you're running OSS
[01:36] <f3n1x> when u try to play a track with an ap it work
[01:36] <f3n1x> ?
[01:36] <KiRiLoS> yes f3n1x
[01:36] <faileas> open sound system. As opposed to alsa or pulseaudio
[01:36] <repbolivar04> hay harwdware q no detecta
[01:36] <faileas> !es | repbolivar04
[01:36] <KiRiLoS> but at that exact time if i try to use another app then the 2nd one doesnt!
[01:36] <repbolivar04> gracias
[01:37] <KiRiLoS> faileas, any tips about how i change that ?
[01:37] <KiRiLoS> i am new to KDE >.<
[01:37] <faileas> KiRiLoS: hmm... i can't remember offhand. try sudo alsa force-reload
[01:38] <faileas> it might be deeper than that, and need some alsa related reinstalls i've not needed to do yet
[01:38] <KiRiLoS> oh :/
[01:40] <mefisto__> KiRiLoS: have you looked in systemsettings > multimedia? try changing the order in the devices list. If pulseaudio is at the top, rearrange it so your soundcard is at the top, or vice versa
[01:41] <KiRiLoS> mefisto__, i just noticed that settings,i got 3 options hda intel analog - hda intel digital and pulse audio,pulse audio and hda analog work when i test em
[01:41] <KiRiLoS> do i have to restart after i optimize the settings ?
[01:42] <KiRiLoS> mefisto__, ?
[01:44] <mefisto__> KiRiLoS: I'm not sure, but in previous kubuntu versions (I'm assuming you have jaunty) you could restart sound without rebooting with sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[01:45] <mefisto__> KiRiLoS: another way is sudo alsa force-reload, but that will kill any programs using sound, including kmix
[01:45] <KiRiLoS> anyway i'll try restart, but what i noticed mefisto__ is that when i got an app working(ex amarok) when i test pulse or hda analog/digital i get an error that it says it's not working...
[01:46] <KiRiLoS> wow mefisto__ i used alsa force-reload
[01:47] <KiRiLoS> and i get a message saying that it's gonna permantly remove the 3 hda devices i have
[01:49] <mefisto__> that message is in konsole? from the alsa command?
[01:49] <KiRiLoS> mefisto__, no a window popped up
[01:50] <dag_> kirilos: what if you launch in konsole "alsamixer"
[01:50] <dag_> ?
[01:51] <KiRiLoS> i did dag_ i get a volume manager or something
[01:52] <russ> Why does openoffice 3 corrupt the taskbar in kde 4
[01:52] <dag_> kirilos: so it doesn't deleted your interfaces, sounds good
[01:52] <dag_> :)
[01:52] <russ>  Why does openoffice 3 corrupt the taskbar in kde 4?
[01:53] <JontheEchidna> openoffice exposes a bug in the graphics drivers for your card
[01:53] <KiRiLoS> dag_, well i didnt accept that pop up :P
[01:53] <JontheEchidna> it should be fixed in later versions of the nvidia driver
[01:53] <KiRiLoS> but the problem isnt solved!
[01:53] <mefisto__> russ: screenshot?
[01:54] <dag_> kirilos: you can, to keep it simple, "dpkg-reconfigure alsa" without quote
[01:54] <russ> when i have writer opened and i unhide the taskbar
[01:54] <dag_> kirilos: and reboot your pc can maybe help
[01:55] <russ> it pixulates beyond reconition
[01:55] <dag_> russ: it's a plasma desktop issue
[01:55] <dag_> russ: seems to be unrelated to OO.O
[01:55] <russ> im using Nvidia 173.14.12
[01:56] <JontheEchidna> it was fixed in the 180 series, I believe
[01:56] <dag_> russ: me too, but the taskbar pixelize randomly also with other applications
[01:56] <russ> not others for me
[01:57] <dag_> jontheechidna: ah, thanks for the hint! :p
[01:58] <dag_> kirilos: any news?
[01:58] <KiRiLoS> dag_, wait i just saw your msg :P
[01:58] <dag_> -_-! sorry
[01:59] <KiRiLoS> dag_, lol ! Package `alsa' is not installed and no info is available.
[01:59] <KiRiLoS> maybe you gave me a wrong command ? :P
[02:00] <dag_> kirilos: dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base
[02:00] <fjallagyldir> hej there
[02:00] <KiRiLoS> dag_, nothing happend....
[02:01] <dag_> kirilos: if it doesn't do the trick dpkg-reconfigure alsa-utils
[02:01] <russ> Maybe 4.2.3 will fix openoffice
[02:01] <KiRiLoS> dag_, well again...Nothing,wtf?
[02:03] <dag_> kirilos: ahahah, it's weird!
[02:03] <KiRiLoS> dag_, :P
[02:05] <Guest5641> alguna chilenita?????
[02:05] <KiRiLoS> dag_, anything else i should try ?
[02:07] <dillon> :)
[02:08] <dag_> kirilos: if something like that was happen to me, i should "sudo kill -9 alsa" or "sudo killall alsa", then i should try to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-utils" and "sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base"; if these don't resolve, a cute "sudo dpkg-reconfigure all"; then again a reboot; and if I was really desperate I should "sudo aptitude reinstall alsa"
[02:09] <KiRiLoS> dag_, :P nice answer,anyway maybe i'll try that out tommorrow :P
[02:09] <nafion112> hi all. is there a quick and easy way in jaunty to make my caps lock an additional ctrl?
[02:09] <dag_> kirilos: you're right! what time is it in your country?
[02:10] <KiRiLoS> dag_, 04:10 AM :P
[02:10] <KiRiLoS> insomnia >.<
[02:10] <KiRiLoS> :P
[02:10] <dag_> 3:10 here in Italy
[02:10] <KiRiLoS> oh you are pretty close :P i am from greece :P
[02:11] <dag_> I suppose it from your nickname :D
[02:11] <KiRiLoS> hehe :p
[02:12] <grimpirate> Does anyone know the system reqs for kubuntu?
[02:12] <dag_> καλή νύχτα
[02:12] <grimpirate> I'm looking at the site but can't seem to find them
[02:12] <KiRiLoS> dag_, :P the only thing i know in italian is : Non e colpa mia!
[02:12] <KiRiLoS> if i spell that right :P
[02:13] <dag_> kirilos: ahahahah why you learned that? You was accused? It means "that's not my fault"
[02:14] <grimpirate> Does anyone know the link for the system reqs?
[02:14] <KiRiLoS> dag_, yes i know what it means :P i was like 5 years old in Kefalonia(A greek island really close to Italy,and i was messing with stuff down to the port :P and a lot of italians where there)
[02:14] <KiRiLoS> so they were keep yelling at me :P and i learned that :P
[02:15] <dag_> ahahah
[02:15] <dag_> ok, got it!
[02:15] <dag_> grimpirate: wait a minute
[02:17] <grimpirate> certainly dag
[02:18] <dag_> grimpirate: cpu 700MHz x86, 384 Mb RAM, 8 Gb free hard disk space, graphic and audio card, internet connection
[02:19] <grimpirate> ty dag
[02:19]  * grimpirate disappointed
[02:20] <nafion112> is there a quick and easy way in jaunty to make my caps lock an additional ctrl?
[02:27] <jedix> is there a way to change what volume is changed by the volume keys on my laptop?
[02:29] <yamishi> hi
[02:29] <yamishi> is there someone here?
[02:29] <jedix> I am
[02:30] <jedix> but I am seeking help too
[02:30] <yamishi> jajaja
[02:30] <yamishi> ok
[02:30] <dag_> hi there
[02:30] <dag_> what's the issue?
[02:30] <yamishi> so what are you looking help for?
[02:31] <jedix>  a way to change what volume is changed by the volume keys on my laptop
[02:31] <jedix> for some reason it's the pcm volume and not the main one
[02:32] <yamishi> umm
[02:32] <jedix> the mute button also only shows me the volume since 9.04 upgrade
[02:34] <dag_> jedix: right click on mixer trayicon, and click on "select default channel" or something like that
[02:34] <jedix> dag_: Thank you!
[02:34] <jedix> also fixed the mute key
[02:34] <jedix> nice
[02:35] <yamishi> umm
[02:35] <yamishi> well
[02:35] <yamishi> i need some help with the idjc
[02:35] <yamishi> since i upgraded to 9.04 i can't open it
[02:36] <jedix> idjc?
[02:36] <dag_> internet dj console?
[02:36] <yamishi> internet dj console
[02:36] <yamishi> yeah
[02:36] <yamishi> it just opens the select profile
[02:37] <yamishi> and then it doesn't opens anything
[02:37] <dag_> yamishi: you can't open it, or it just doesn't load?
[02:38] <yamishi> it doesn't load
[02:38] <yamishi> well
[02:39] <yamishi> after selecting the profile
[02:39] <yamishi> nothing loads or opens
[02:39] <jedix> did you try from a terminal to see if there are error messages?
[02:39] <dag_> yamishi: idjc --version?
[02:40] <yamishi> umm
[02:41] <yamishi> well no
[02:41] <yamishi> and
[02:41] <yamishi> the last version on the oficial webpage
[02:41] <dag_> yamishi: ok, if it is the latest version there's a known issue
[02:42] <yamishi> oh
[02:42] <yamishi> umm
[02:42] <dag_> yamishi: but there's also a solution
[02:42] <yamishi> oh
[02:42] <yamishi> sounds good
[02:42] <yamishi> so
[02:42] <yamishi> what is the solutions
[02:42] <yamishi> and the issue
[02:42] <yamishi> ?
[02:47] <lorecaster> Can anyone recommend a good FTP client for ubuntu 9.04 (gnome)?
[02:48] <deever> hi
[02:48] <dag_> lorecaster: filezilla
[02:48] <dag_> hi deever! :)
[02:48] <deever> is XDMCP under kubuntu possible?
[02:48] <lorecaster> sudo apt-get filezilla?
[02:48] <dag_> right
[02:49] <deever> the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc "hack" i know and tried, but kdm still doesn't listen on <IP_ADDRESS>:117
[02:49] <lorecaster> thanks so much dag_
[02:50] <dag_> deever: are you attempt to do it inside a LAN?
[03:25] <Trebacz> Looking for a KDE web development package with source control integration. Something like Quanta and Kdesvn? Suggestions. Alternatives
[03:34] <vegas513> how's it going everybody?
[03:37] <vegas513> i recently installed kubuntu 9.04 x64 and i keep getting artifacts left onscreen when i minimize/resize windows
[03:37] <vegas513> can't figure out why
[03:37] <rgarcia> hey everybody...what do you think about kubuntu 9.04?
[03:37] <jschall> Can I use mouse4 and mouse5 to go forward and back in konqueror yet? Does 64 bit flash work properly in konqueror?
[03:38] <rgarcia> anybody?
[03:39] <yamishi> umm
[03:39] <yamishi> i thinks is pretty good
[03:40] <rgarcia> really, but does it have many changes?
[03:40] <rgarcia> what about the bugs?
[03:41] <yrjokin> which bugs? It is lots better than 8.10 but you want a fresh install to use ext4
[03:42] <yamishi> yeah
[03:42] <yamishi> for me it's better than 8.10
[03:42] <yrjokin> 8.10 had me going back to 8.04
[03:43] <yamishi> there are some issues with somethings like the internet dj console
[03:43] <yamishi> but they can be fixed
[03:43] <rgarcia> look...I'm new here...I'm using the 8.04, and the adept updater warn me to update to 9.04, what you think is better for me do?
[03:43] <yamishi> update
[03:43] <yrjokin> You can do that but you will still be using ext3
[03:44] <rgarcia> right...so the best way is downloading the new from kubuntu.org..and than install make the ext4?
[03:44] <yrjokin> and you mean udgrade - but do it or start again as you can get ext4 which is blazing fast
[03:44] <yrjokin> you read my mind
[03:46] <yamishi> but isn't ext4 incompatible with somethings?
[03:46] <faileas> ext4 has a few issues with datal oss
[03:46] <rgarcia> is it?
[03:46] <faileas> though KDE on jaunty is better than on intrepid IMO
[03:46] <yamishi> well yeah
[03:49] <yrjokin> ant issues with ext4 are cleared and the losses where when people were trying to install it with the data in place!
[03:49] <yrjokin> any
[03:50] <yrjokin> It's fine with a fresh install - its fast!
[03:51] <vegas513> so far i'm having issues with video
[03:51] <vegas513> in jaunty
[03:53] <deever> dag_: huh?
[03:54] <deever> sure inside a lan, not over internet! :)
[03:54] <dag_> deever: ?
[03:54] <deever> dag_: ?
[03:54] <dag_> deever: !
[03:54] <dag_> deever: :D
[03:55] <deever> dag_: haha, very funny...have you XDMCP ruuning on a hardy box?
[03:55] <deever> ;)
[03:59] <deever> dag_: hello?
[03:59] <dag_> deever: I tried, but without any luck
[04:00] <dag_> deever: :/
[04:00] <dag_> deever: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=910058
[04:02] <deever> weird...
[04:03] <deever> even more so, that it works w/o problems in ubuntu...:(
[04:03] <dag_> deever: maybe you'll like more this one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
[04:03] <dag_> deever: it's the LinuxTerminalServerProject (for thinclient)
[04:06] <LeeJunFan> Is there a way to view what apps a session is starting in real time? When I log in it sometimes takes several minutes for my apps from autostart and session to run and appear in the tray.
[04:09] <deever> dag_: no, actually, my thin client is a laptop, which i use a my main box...;)
[04:12] <dag_> deever: sorry for my stupid question but...you need to xdmcp or id just to give it a try?
[04:13] <deever> dag_: i need it...;)
[04:15] <dag_> deever:what about kdrc?
[04:15] <dag_> deever: did you tried?
[04:17] <deever> dag_: you mean /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc?
[04:18] <dag_> deever: keep it simple: Kmenu ----> applications ----> internet ------> kdmrc
[04:28] <rmrfslash_> I just read AMD is dropping fglrx support for chips <= R600
[04:30] <dag_> 4 8 15 16 23 42
[04:31] <Wolfcastle> hello
[04:31] <dag_> hi there
[04:31] <Wolfcastle> anyone else having problems with mplayer in kubuntu 9.04?
[04:31] <Wolfcastle> after a while of playing a file it starts using up almost all my memory
[04:33] <dag_> @all: good night
[04:34] <Wolfcastle> nobody?
[04:34] <yamishi> bye bye
[04:36] <yamishi> does anyone knows what's up with this "error"?
[04:37] <yamishi> yamishi@atarashi-fantasy:~$ idjc
[04:37] <yamishi> Internet DJ Console Version 0.7.2a
[04:37] <yamishi> Copyright 2005-2007 Stephen Fairchild
[04:37] <yamishi> Released under the GNU General Public License V3.0
[04:37] <yamishi> no profile specified
[04:37] <yamishi> display encoding: UTF-8 filesystem encoding: UTF-8
[04:37] <yamishi> /usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/idjcgui.py:1521: DeprecationWarning: os.popen2 is deprecated.  Use the subprocess module.
[04:37] <yamishi>   self.mixer_ctrl, self.mixer_rply = os.popen2([ libexecdir + "idjcmixer" ], 4096)
[04:37] <yamishi> no message buffer overruns
[04:37] <yamishi> Traceback (most recent call last):
[04:37] <yamishi>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/idjcgui.py", line 2262, in <module>
[04:37] <yamishi>     run_instance = MainWindow(sys.argv[1:])
[04:37] <yamishi>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/idjcgui.py", line 1681, in __init__
[04:37] <yamishi>     self.mic_select = nice_mic_togglebutton()
[04:37] <yamishi>   File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/idjcgui.py", line 218, in __init__
[04:37] <yamishi>     gtk.ToggleButton.__init__(self, label, use_underline)
[04:37] <yamishi> RuntimeError: more argument specifiers than keyword list entries (remaining format:'):GtkToggleButton.__init__')
[04:37] <yamishi> yamishi@atarashi-fantasy:~$ Mixer module has closed
[04:37] <harolddong> use pastebin
[04:37] <MushroomKingdom> Hi, I'm having some problems being able to switch cd's while installing programs to Wine
[04:37] <Wolfcastle> guess I'll go back to debian
[04:37] <Wolfcastle> can't have a OS without smplayer
[04:37] <okisa> somebody is a girl?
[04:38] <Wolfcastle> yamishi: use pastebin
[04:41] <yamishi> can someone help me with the idjc bug or something?
[04:43] <jschall> 64 bit flash work in konqueror?
[04:45] <rmrfslash_> Yeah... just figured out I needed to run aticonfig --initial after installing the fglrx driver
[04:46] <Wolfcastle> hmm seems this memory problem is with amarok too..maybe it is the sound system
[04:46] <Wolfcastle> kubuntu jaunty uses phonon right?
[04:49] <Rayner> greetings
[04:49] <Rayner> I'm having some problems with extreme memory usage of some programs
[04:49] <Rayner> specifically mplayer and amarok
[04:49] <Rayner> could this be a problem with phonon?
[04:50] <deever> dag_: there is no such item...
[04:54] <rmrfslash_> eugh resume from suspend or hibernate is still broken w/ fglrx
[04:55] <harolddong> exactly what is gwenview suppposed to do when you click a tag on its homepage?  Mine just acts like it wants to load something but never does
[04:56] <harolddong> is the nepomuk implementation in gwenview just not finished yet?
[05:06] <superwad> how would i add a repository for the nightly build of amarok through SVN?
[05:06] <superwad> the stable amarok just isn't working for me :(
[05:08] <harolddong> speaking of the nightly builds... is the project neon repo going to be updated for jaunty at some point?
[05:14] <triune> i want to make my amarok 2 look like my amarok 1.4 :|
[05:16] <superwad> triune: don't think that would happen :(
[05:20] <rmrfslash_> fglrx won't resume if desktop effects are enabled. anyone else notice this?
[05:20] <rmrfslash_> is there a resolution short of disabling desktop effects?
[05:24] <InexperiencedMic> Hello.
[05:24] <InexperiencedMic> Who's willing to help a Linux newbie stop being such an idiot?
[05:24] <InexperiencedMic> Welcome, hopefully-experienced-Kubuntu-user.
[05:25] <InexperiencedMic> Uh, hello?
[05:26] <InexperiencedMic> Hello.
[05:26] <InexperiencedMic> Please tell me that, out of 318 online users, I'm not the only one who's actually "here."
[05:28] <robin0800__> InexperiencedMic: yes
[05:28] <InexperiencedMic> Hello?
[05:28] <InexperiencedMic> Oh, goodie, a reply!
[05:28] <InexperiencedMic> Don't suppose you'd happen to be fairly experienced with Kubuntu, would you?
[05:29] <robin0800__> InexperiencedMic: Just ask
[05:29] <InexperiencedMic> How do I do anything at all?
[05:29] <InexperiencedMic> For instance, installing drivers.
[05:30] <CPrgmSwR2> wow quassel is nice
[05:30] <robin0800__> InexperiencedMic: what driver?
[05:30] <InexperiencedMic> Well, any. Let's start with a wireless driver.
[05:31] <robin0800__> InexperiencedMic: What wireless card do you have
[05:31] <InexperiencedMic> Good question. Running on a Dell Inspiron E1405. Let me look it up.
[05:32] <rmrfslash_> can i shut off desktop effects on the command line?
[05:32] <robin0800__> InexperiencedMic:  in a terminal lspci
[05:34] <InexperiencedMic> Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[05:35] <robin0800__> InexperiencedMic: Just a little help http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[05:37] <InexperiencedMic> Alright... What am I looking at ?
[05:37] <MachinTrucChose> hi
[05:37] <InexperiencedMic> Hey.
[05:38] <MachinTrucChose> I would like to be able to run a program (my torrent client) when the machine boots up, regardless of whether a user logged in or not. ie, just powering on the machine and staring at the login screen, would have the torrent client start in the background, (like a Windows service). How can I do this?
[05:38] <Idiot> Alright, so...
[05:40] <Idiot> I don't get it... How is a new guy supposed to start off, anyway?
[05:40] <Idiot> Good thing I've got this tutorial thing that I copy jibberish commands over from.
[05:41] <MachinTrucChose> Idiot: what's up? I'm a newbie too but maybe it's something I know.
[05:41] <Idiot> Well, I got a link here and I'm copying over chunks of code to Terminal.
[05:41] <robin0800__> InexperiencedMic: I think you need to do the instructions half way down the page for device firmware
[05:42] <Idiot> I'm just a bit annoyed that this is even necessary.
[05:42] <socceroos> Idiot, what are you trying to acomplish?
[05:42] <Idiot> Trying to install drivers for my wireless card.
[05:42] <socceroos> you may find it isn't necessary
[05:43] <Idiot> I ran these commands, but I'm not sure if it actually accomplished anything.
[05:43] <socceroos> what version of Kubuntu are you using?
[05:43] <Idiot> Newest. 9.something.
[05:43] <socceroos> ok
[05:43] <MachinTrucChose> Sorry, can't help with driver stuff. The default drivers worked from the get-go for both my PC and laptop wireless cards.
[05:43] <Idiot> Hrm...
[05:43] <Idiot> Well, I pull up the Hardware Drivers thing.
[05:44] <socceroos> Idiot (cant get used to that name =) ), Do you know what wireless card you're using?
[05:44] <Idiot> Oh, wait... *sigh* Looks like one of these drivers in the Hardware Driversr thing worked.
[05:44] <Idiot> But don't worry, I'm sure I'll have more questions very soon.
[05:45] <Idiot> Now, I can use the jibberish code I got from somewhere to actually connect to the network.
[05:45] <socceroos> Idiot, just to briefly explain, the terminal is only used when you need to exercise fine-grained control over the system - such as interacting with drivers. In almost all circumstances though, there is a GUI tool that will do the job.
[05:46] <Idiot> Ah, good. How can I connect to a wireless network via GUI?
[05:47] <Idiot> Because I despise Terminal with a fiery passion that all the horrors of Hell cannot fathom to even begin to match.
[05:48] <robin0800__> Idiot: Is this an upgrade?
[05:48] <Idiot> From Vista? I'm still trying to decide.
[05:48] <socceroos> The current Kubuntu 9.04 release has a small icon in the system tray that looks like a plug, can you see it?
[05:49] <socceroos> Idiot: i would have recommended installing Ubuntu 9.04 instead of Kubuntu personally.
[05:49] <Idiot> Eh, got a tip from a friend who loves Linux.
[05:49] <Idiot> Let's see... small plug... *searches*
[05:50] <Idiot> I think I see something that vaguely resembles a plug.
[05:50] <socceroos> Only because it is a little more 'polished'. I say this because Kubuntu 9.04 currently is experiencing wireless issues in some setups ( ie, wireless encryption).
[05:50] <raylu> socceroos: that's not true
[05:50] <socceroos> raylu: yes it is.
[05:50] <raylu> socceroos: the gui is only used when there's no faster way in the terminal :D
[05:51] <raylu> 12:45:55   socceroos> Idiot, just to briefly explain, the terminal is only used when you need to exercise fine-grained control over the system - such as interacting with drivers. In almost all circumstances though, there is a GUI tool that will do the job.
[05:51] <socceroos> raylu: if that's your mentality -- the Kubuntu is only suitable for developers and experienced linux users.
[05:51] <raylu> well, it's a matter of preference, of course
[05:51] <robin0800__> raylu: Doesn't work here with mobile broardband
[05:51] <socceroos> ah, raylu, I thought you were referring to wireless issues
[05:51] <Idiot> Faster, sure, but how does one actually learn this stuff without years of research and study?
[05:51] <socceroos> I personally love the terminal
[05:52] <raylu> robin0800__: er, huh?
[05:52] <raylu> Idiot: just... use it
[05:52] <raylu> that's how i learned it
[05:52] <Idiot> Hrm...
[05:52] <raylu> that's also how i learned everything else that i'm good at
[05:52] <raylu> by doing
[05:52] <Captain_Haddock> anybody having issues with invisible mouse pointers post upgrade to Jaunty?
[05:52] <Idiot> Well, I mean, maybe I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed and all that, but give me XP and an internet connection and I can do anything I'd ever want to do.
[05:53] <tsimpson> we all spent years learning how to use linux, but we forgot to write it all down, sorry ;)
[05:53] <raylu> Idiot: then why are you on linux?
[05:53] <Idiot> Because XP is going out of service.
[05:53] <socceroos> raylu: because of vista aparently
[05:53] <raylu> ah. heh, that's a good reason
[05:53] <Idiot> Well, I mean, I game.
[05:53] <robin0800__> Idiot: Windows 7
[05:54] <Idiot> I don't do much programming beyond some slight web development and such.
[05:54] <Idiot> Mostly web design if anything.
[05:54] <socceroos> Idiot: me too.
[05:54] <Idiot> So, I mean, I guess I don't appreciate what's so great about Linux.
[05:54] <Idiot> In my experience, Linux means hours and hours of figuring out how to even install a program.
[05:55] <Idiot> Versus two clicks in Windows.
[05:55] <raylu> but windows means either you can do it (in 3 seconds) or it can't be done. period.
[05:55] <socceroos> Idiot: there is a lot thats good about linux, the best way to handle it is to understand that Linux will behave differently than windows - not worse, just differently
[05:55] <Idiot> I guess... But then, I think I'd rather give up than sort through a thousand lines of code looking for a missing semicolon, heh.
[05:55] <Captain_Haddock> Idiot: it takes me about 2 seconds to install a program...
[05:55] <raylu> speaking of that... http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[05:56] <raylu> also, missing semicolons can be found in seconds. also, you should never need to sort through code :P
[05:56] <Idiot> What command do yo uuse, Cap'n?
[05:56] <Idiot> Please forgive my typing on this oddly oversensitive keyboard.
[05:56] <raylu> Idiot: on kubuntu, aptitude, apt-get, or kpackagekit
[05:56] <socceroos> Idiot, you can use a GUI to install programs
[05:56] <Captain_Haddock> Idiot: sudo apt-get install "program name"
[05:56] <Idiot> What if I don't know the program's name?
[05:57] <raylu> Idiot: all 3 options i listed have searching capabilities. as does apt-cache
[05:57] <Captain_Haddock> Idiot: sudo apt-cache search "keyword"
[05:57] <Captain_Haddock> that's what I use... all the GUIs are frontends for apt
[05:57] <raylu> apt-cache doesn't tell me if its installed, though :(
[05:57] <raylu> Captain_Haddock: all the clis are frontends for apt too :D
[05:58] <Idiot> *stares at the results of a search for "media player"*
[05:58] <Idiot> Uh... What am I looking at?
[05:58] <socceroos> a terminal
[05:58] <faileas> and apt is a front end for dpkg ;p
[05:58] <Captain_Haddock> raylu: I believe that there are a couple of extensions to apt which help
[05:58] <Idiot> Everything's for libxinel, or something.
[05:59] <socceroos> guys, perhaps show him how to use the gui?
[05:59] <raylu> faileas: no, apt uses dpkg. but the apt toolchain is not merely a frontend for dpkg
[05:59] <Idiot> Yeah, sorry. I have trouble reading jibberish.
[05:59] <Captain_Haddock> gibberish*
[05:59] <Idiot> Sure.
[05:59] <Captain_Haddock> Idiot: it's a keyword search
[06:00] <raylu> Idiot: getting a list of media players isn't really possible. you'd have to ask a person about that
[06:00] <Captain_Haddock> you can refine it further ... or just use the GUI
[06:00] <robin0800__> Idiot: Kpackagekit is a GUI
[06:00] <Idiot> I suppose I just don't understand what its' telling me comes up, Cap'n.
[06:00] <Idiot> Alright, so how do I get this GUI installer up?
[06:00] <Captain_Haddock> Idiot: all these packages on your screen have the keywords "media player" in their descriptions
[06:00] <socceroos> Go to the menu, then in the search box at the top, type: kpackage
[06:01] <socceroos> that should bring it up.
[06:01] <socceroos> idiot, tell me when you've got that done.
[06:01] <Idiot> The menu?
[06:02] <Captain_Haddock> "Start"
[06:02] <raylu> \=
[06:02] <socceroos> The big K down on the bottom left hand side of your screen
[06:02] <Idiot> Ah. -.-'
[06:02]  * raylu does not approve.
[06:02] <socceroos> there should be a search box at the top of the menu
[06:02] <Idiot> Yes, got it.
[06:02] <socceroos> now search for kpackage
[06:02] <Idiot> It's running.
[06:03] <socceroos> raylu: its a good idea not to overwhelm new users.
[06:03] <socceroos> excelent
[06:03] <socceroos> now, this tool will (through a gui) allow you to search for and install programs
[06:03] <Idiot> So let's say I want to play a game.
[06:03] <socceroos> it will also provide a description of what each program/package does.
[06:03] <Idiot> I assume I'll need WINE.
[06:04] <socceroos> if you want to play a windows game - yes
[06:04] <socceroos> the current versions of WINE will actually run quite a few windows games
[06:04] <Idiot> Let's hope.
[06:04] <Idiot> Alright, I've got a single result.
[06:05] <MushroomKingdom> Hello, I'm trying to install a 4 disk game to Wine
[06:05] <socceroos> excellent, i'm guessing that single result is 'wine'?
[06:05] <MushroomKingdom> But I am not able to remove the first disk when it asks for the second disk
[06:05] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: "not able to?"
[06:05] <Idiot> Yeah, that's right.
[06:05] <socceroos> raylu. wine isn't releasing the disk
[06:05] <Captain_Haddock> MushroomKingdom: try using the device manager
[06:06] <socceroos> raylu: have to force unmount of disk
[06:06] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: yes, it tells me that I am not allowed since the drive is in use
[06:06] <Idiot> I'm going to take a chance and try clicking on it.
[06:06] <MushroomKingdom> Device manager, yes I tried
[06:06] <Eveready> Windows 7 will feature XP mode
[06:06] <Eveready>   Vista skipped
[06:06] <socceroos> idiot, thats fine, you won't break anything
[06:06] <raylu> windows 7 premium, business, and ultimate will feature XP mode
[06:06] <socceroos> package management in Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Debian is very robust.
[06:07] <Eveready> why not Linux mode? shhesh....
[06:07] <raylu> Eveready: that exists too. it's called vmware
[06:07] <faileas> raylu: professional, not premium
[06:07] <faileas> Eveready: cause they would muck it up ;p
[06:07] <Eveready> lol or wubi
[06:07] <raylu> faileas: oh
[06:07] <faileas> or virtualbox ;p
[06:07] <Captain_Haddock> kubuntu should just use synaptic :S
[06:07] <socceroos> MushroomKingdom, try this from the command line: sudo umount /media/cdrom -o force
[06:07] <Captain_Haddock> kpackagekit looks worse than adept :|
[06:07] <raylu> i was actually more comfortable with adept than synaptic
[06:08] <robin0800__> raylu: do you have a link for that?
[06:08] <MushroomKingdom> Ok, i'll try that thanks
[06:08] <raylu> and i've never even run kpackagekit
[06:08] <Captain_Haddock> I just did... *shudder*
[06:08] <socceroos> Idiot: how you going mate?
[06:08] <Idiot> I think I installed it.
[06:08] <Idiot> Can't say for sure.
[06:08] <raylu> robin0800__: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10229125-56.html
[06:08] <socceroos> ok, did it say it was downloading the package?
[06:08] <Idiot> Yeah, resolved some conflicts, had a nice progress bar, I approve.
[06:09] <raylu> robin0800__: wait..
[06:09] <socceroos> Idiot: then its done. thats how to install a program in Kubuntu
[06:09] <raylu> robin0800__: there. http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001258.html
[06:09] <Idiot> Not too bad, if I know what I'm looking for.
[06:09] <socceroos> Idiot: the easy way =D
[06:09] <Idiot> So, how does it work, now
[06:09] <MushroomKingdom> socceroos: umount: invalid option -- 'o'
[06:09] <Idiot> I've got a game installed on a network folder.
[06:09] <Idiot> How do I access my Microsoft network and run the game?
[06:10] <socceroos> ok, for wine, if you just put the cd in your drive of the game you want to install, I'll show you the next bit.
[06:10] <raylu> socceroos, MushroomKingdom: mount -o force, umount -f
[06:10] <MushroomKingdom> oo
[06:10] <Idiot> Well, I don't really have the CD, I've been keeping it installed on a network folder.
[06:10] <raylu> guis... cds... such strange and ancient things.
[06:11] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: wont let me force it out
[06:11] <socceroos> MushroomKingdom: sudo umount -f /media/cdrom
[06:11] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: how'd you umount?
[06:11] <MushroomKingdom> It's a legit CD
[06:11] <Idiot> Sorry, Ray, but I prefer my "high-tech" as an elaborately fancy GUI, as opposed to a black screen and blinking cursor.
[06:11] <raylu> Idiot: high-tech doens't make it better. it doesn't even mean anything. also, blinking cursors are annoying :P
[06:12] <socceroos> Idiot: thats fine - is your network folder on another computer?
[06:12] <Idiot> Well, it's an external hard drive that I've got connected to a desktop that shares it over the network.
[06:12] <socceroos> MushroomKingdom: did that last command I gave work?
[06:13] <MushroomKingdom> socceroos: It tells me the drive is busy, and wont do anything
[06:13] <socceroos> Idiot: ok, is that computer the one you're currently using or is it another computer on your same network?
[06:13] <Idiot> Ray, I was referring to all those TV shows/movies that make hacking look like a point and click process.
[06:13] <Idiot> Well, it's within five feet of my computer, but oh so far away.
[06:13] <raylu> indeed it is, thanks to windows networking
[06:13] <Idiot> So close and yet so digitally far.
[06:14] <Idiot> So, how do I connect to a windows network?
[06:14] <Idiot> And, Ray, please don't, like, hack me and overclock my processor to burn-out to prove how superior Linux is.
[06:15] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: that's strange that it gave you that with -f. consider making ISOs of all the cds first
[06:15] <socceroos> Idiot: ok
[06:15] <MushroomKingdom> I was thinking about that, I do have the iso's already on my computer. I just sudo mount -o /media/cdrom?
[06:15] <Idiot> So, how can I do this, socceroos?
[06:15] <socceroos> Idiot: go to start and open up 'dolphin' - its the icon that looks like a set of blue drawers
[06:16] <socceroos> dolphin is KDE's file manager
[06:16] <linux-hdtv_> I would not have believed it, but KDE 4.2 of Kubuntu is now frozen stiff because i started alarm-clock ...
[06:16] <socceroos> like the windows one you use to browse C:\
[06:16] <socceroos> tell me when you've got that open
[06:16] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: are you typing from another machine?
[06:16] <linux-hdtv_> If the Ehernet socket on the computer is blinking orange, what are the chances my ftp-upload is still going ?
[06:17] <linux-hdtv_> yes raylu
[06:17] <Idiot> Didn't see it, so I searched for it.
[06:17] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: have you tried ctrl+alt+f1 yet?
[06:17] <socceroos> Idiot, so its open now?
[06:17] <Idiot> Is that like putting <IP_ADDRESS> into a hacking program?
[06:17] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: to mount the isos? no
[06:18] <linux-hdtv_> raylu, i could log in there ...
[06:18] <Idiot> I've got something called "Kontact" open.
[06:18] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: mount file.iso /media/cdrom1
[06:18] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: killall alarm-clock
[06:18] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: oh, ok I'll try
[06:18] <socceroos> Idiot: lol, thats like microsoft Outlook
[06:18] <socceroos> idiot: you dont need that =)
[06:18] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: the mount point must exist before mounting and
[06:18] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: that command will actually fail
[06:18] <Idiot> Yeah, I wondered.
[06:18] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: but it'll tell you the additional flag you need to make it work. i can never remember what it is
[06:19] <raylu> socceroos: no, it doesn't fail all over itself
[06:19] <MushroomKingdom> rayly: thank you
[06:19] <Idiot> Okay, I don't see dolphin off-hand.
[06:19] <socceroos> Idiot: when you go to the start menu, it should be listed in your favourites
[06:19] <Idiot> Oh, yes.
[06:20] <Idiot> If only you'd told me to look for "file manager."
[06:20] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: should I sudo mkdir /media/cdrom1
[06:20] <socceroos> idiot: lol
[06:20] <socceroos> idiot: sorry, next time i'll remember =D
[06:20] <Idiot> I think I just realized something.
[06:20] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: yes
[06:21] <linux-hdtv_> thanks, raylu. it looks like gftp is still running (top).
[06:21] <socceroos> raylu: true - I use Kontact in my day job 24/7 - its rock solid in KDE 4.2.2
[06:21] <Idiot> I now know why people go to Linux: people just like to play elementary school teacher on IRC for fools like me.
[06:21] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: so, can you get back to the desktop now?
[06:21] <socceroos> Idiot: hahaha, not likely
[06:21] <linux-hdtv_> how ?
[06:21] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: ctrl+alt+f7
[06:21] <Idiot> So, with Dolphin up, now what?
[06:21] <socceroos> Idiot: now, down the side, click on network
[06:21] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: mount: can't find /media/cdrom1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:22] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: you didn't specify the iso you're mounting, then
[06:22] <Idiot> Yeah, got it.
[06:22] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: if you only specify one argument, it assumes it can find the other in one of those two files
[06:23] <socceroos> Idiot: now, it should give you an icon saying ;'samba shares'
[06:23] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: I sent sudo mount file.iso /media/cdrom1 but it wants a -o loop
[06:23] <socceroos> click on that
[06:23] <linux-hdtv_> ctrl-alt-f7 shows a completely black screen and a white skull as the mouse pointer.
[06:23] <Idiot> See it, yup.
[06:23] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: yeah. that's the flag :D
[06:23] <socceroos> ok
[06:23] <Idiot> Oh, alright.
[06:23] <socceroos> now, does it show your local 'WORKGROUP'
[06:23] <Idiot> There it is.
[06:23] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: strange... try f8.. and the other f keys too :P
[06:23] <Idiot> Well, it shows my workgroup, yeah.
[06:23] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: so I tried sudo mount file.iso /media/cdrom1 -o and got nothing, and sudo mount -o file.iso /media/cdrom1 and got that
[06:23] <socceroos> Idiot: sweet, its working =)
[06:24] <Idiot> I'm actually clever enough to change my workgroup's name, believe it or not.
[06:24] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: er, where's the loop
[06:24] <socceroos> Idiot: lol, i can believe that - you're a windows guru - linux is different =)
[06:24] <linux-hdtv_> the skull is probably because i tried some key combinations, probably an app allowing to kill the window you click on with it.
[06:24] <linux-hdtv_> how can i stop the skull ?
[06:24] <Idiot> Different frightens me. That's why I'm Republican.
[06:25] <socceroos> Idiot: lol
[06:25] <Idiot> Alright.
[06:25] <Idiot> I've got a nice .exe file here.
[06:25] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: I'm not entirely certain where I'm supposed to place it, and what exactly I'm doing.
[06:25] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: escape. xkill, i'm guessing?
[06:25] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: mount -o loop file.iso /media/cdrom1
[06:26] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: ah! That worked. Thank you.
[06:26] <Idiot> So, how do I kick this .exe's butt?
[06:26] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: Day 5 of Linux today, going well so far :D
[06:26] <socceroos> Idiot, try clicking once on it
[06:26] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: now, you may have to do some screwy things for wine to treat them as cd drives
[06:26] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: something in winecfg... maybe...
[06:26] <socceroos> should then open it like any other windows program
[06:26] <kaist> how can I look up clamav virus definitions? Like for example : Trojan.Packed-142
[06:27] <Idiot> Eep! A pop-up window!
[06:27] <socceroos> what does the window say?
[06:27] <socceroos> Idiot: BTW, what game are you trying to install?
[06:27] <Idiot> It demands to know what I want to open it with.
[06:27] <Idiot> Not so much install as run.
[06:27] <Idiot> Neverwinter Nights.
[06:28] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: It seems good, the install is back on track. I was able to find the drive immediately and everything is running smooth
[06:28] <socceroos> ah, so - the network folder you're currently browsing is an already installed game on another computer?
[06:28] <Idiot> Right.
[06:28] <Idiot> And yes, it works (at least on Windows).
[06:28] <linux-hdtv_> xkill, probably. still the black screen is unexpected. and escape does not quit the skull cursor. for now i'm just happy gftp is finishing the job (3GB upload). thank you raylu.
[06:28] <socceroos> Idiot: you may have problems running this through WINE over the network............but we'll give it a go
[06:29] <socceroos> in that popup window
[06:29] <linux-hdtv_> ctrl-alt-f1-8 no different, ctrl-alt-f9 no effect
[06:29] <socceroos> type in 'wine' (without quotes) in that top bar and click on 'Remember this choice' down the bottom
[06:29] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: no problem. in tty1 (c+a+f1), you should be able to kill xkill if it's running. try pgrep -l kill
[06:30] <Idiot> Aww...  Would it be possible to copy the game files and put them into Wine's C:\ drive and run it from there?
[06:32] <Idiot> It doesn't really do anything.
[06:32] <socceroos> MushroomKingdom, it certainly is an option - I wanna try run it over the network first though =)
[06:32] <Idiot> Doesn't find anything.
[06:33] <socceroos> Idiot: that would suggest it isn't properly installed
[06:33] <Idiot> Yeah.
[06:33] <socceroos> idiot: we're going to do something frightening here - open up........A TERMINAL
[06:33] <socceroos> *cue horror music*
[06:33] <MushroomKingdom> socceroos: Hm, yeah that would be the better option. I found it hard to run things across Windows to Linux :(
[06:33] <Idiot> AUUUGHHH! *screams in horror*
[06:34] <MushroomKingdom> Pffft terminal. Terminal rocks :D
[06:34] <Idiot> It's open.
[06:34] <MushroomKingdom> it's where my IRC is
[06:34] <socceroos> MushroomKingdom: Idiot, is new to linux - just starting slowly
[06:34] <faileas> socceroos: its called going down the rabbit hole ;p
[06:34] <socceroos> Idiot, ok, so
[06:34] <socceroos> type this: winecfg
[06:34] <socceroos> and hit enter
[06:35] <MushroomKingdom> socceroos: I'm on day 5 :D
[06:35] <Idiot> My hobbies are drinking chlorox, bashing my head against a brick wall until it goes black, and trying to figure out Linux.
[06:35] <raylu> socceroos: ...wine isn't installed
[06:35] <socceroos> MushroomKingdom: nice one =)
[06:35] <MushroomKingdom> socceroos: Yep, after 15 years of Windows. Fully switched.
[06:35] <socceroos> raylu: I'm going to find out
[06:35] <Idiot> Command not found, socc.
[06:35] <socceroos> MushroomKingdom: well done mate - not many can do that =)
[06:36] <socceroos> Idiot: ok, try this: sudo apt-get install wine
[06:36]  * faileas allegedly has a windows and a linux box at the moment. *notes one is on kubuntu, and the other on lxde ;p)
[06:36] <socceroos> you'll need to enter in your login pasword and hit enter
[06:36] <raylu> linux-hdtv_: i suspect something else is eating up the cpu
[06:37] <Idiot> Couldn't find package wine.
[06:37] <MushroomKingdom> socceroos: :) It was time for a change, and a good change at that. Anywho, I've got a brand new problem. Wine won't let me in the C:\ drive D:
[06:37] <raylu> !info wine
[06:37] <raylu> universe isn't on by default
[06:37] <socceroos> raylu: ah
[06:37]  * svingzemeate <-- Grabs ticket #742 *doh!*... Yakuake vs. Jaunty ponderance.
[06:37] <raylu> which makes me wonder what Idiot saw when he thought he installed wine
[06:38] <socceroos> raylu: yeah
[06:38] <Idiot> Well, there was, like, a progress bar and stuff.
[06:38] <Idiot> It went from left to right.
[06:38] <Idiot> So I assumed that it did something.
[06:38] <elliottm> a reasonable assumption
[06:38] <MushroomKingdom> Hm, I'm still confused myself about the Universe and Multivserse. I have them enabled but I have no idea how
[06:39] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:39] <MushroomKingdom> Hm, thats into terminal?
[06:39] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: no, that's where they're enabled
[06:39] <MushroomKingdom> Oh
[06:39] <socceroos> Idiot: basically it goes like this, we need to enable your installation of Kubuntu to access all of the packages that are available
[06:39] <MushroomKingdom> But, how did I magically enable them? :s
[06:39] <socceroos> idiot: its fairly simple to do
[06:40] <raylu> see, it's nice knowing what's going on in your system. the gui hides that and it's ok when you never need to know. in other words, perfect guis are nice
[06:40] <Idiot> Ahh, I see.
[06:40] <Wolfcastle> greetings ppl
[06:40] <Idiot> Well, I was running off a live CD.  UAC is less annoying about your own actions
[06:42] <socceroos> Idiot: so basically, you've been 'test driving' Kubuntu instead of running it off your computer.
[06:42] <Idiot> Am I the only one here who likes XP?
[06:42] <str1fe13> Windows 7 is better for the average Windows user than Vista/XP.  "Better" is relative :)
[06:43] <Idiot> Yeah, I guess I knew that, socc, just didn't enter the run command for brain power.
[06:43] <socceroos> idiot: I'll take XP any day over vista - but I'll take Ubuntu any day over XP.
[06:43] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: So by me making an iso of Kubuntu and installing it on my HDD I have Universe?
[06:43] <str1fe13> It all comes down to opinion i guess.
[06:43] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: what i mean is universe isn't enabled on the livecd
[06:43] <Idiot> I'm curious--what is it that you do on Linux that you wouldn't/couldn't do on XP?
[06:43] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: but when it installs, it updates the sources.list to include universe
[06:43] <raylu> Idiot: not use my mouse
[06:44] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: Oh, yeah no i formatted my HDD for this
[06:44] <Idiot> Oh, well, congrats, I guess.
[06:44] <porky> this linux crap is not even working.
[06:44] <porky> i put the usb drive in. fail.
[06:44] <socceroos> Idiot: the advantage of linux is that - if you're motivated - you can get it to do anything you want
[06:44] <Idiot> I suppose... Though, really, XP does everything I want.
[06:45] <Idiot> Problem is an  increasing lack of driver support.
[06:45] <porky> there used to be a window that would ask me if i wanted to open my usb drive.  like 20 minits ago when i was using it.
[06:45] <porky> the linux crap is failing.
[06:45] <raylu> Idiot: so you switched to the OS with even less driver support :P
[06:45] <Idiot> Good point.
[06:45] <raylu> porky: so mount it manually :D
[06:45] <porky> i hate extra typing.
[06:45] <raylu> porky: i hate extra clicking
[06:45] <Idiot> Really, is there any option besides btt-rapeage by Vista?
[06:46] <porky> in windows you dont have to type anything to use the usb drive.  it just works.
[06:46] <raylu> btt = ?
[06:46] <porky> why is it linux stuff works only some of the time
[06:46] <socceroos> butt
[06:46] <raylu> porky: it always works for me. i can mount any usb drive. as a bonus, i don't have to deal with sandisk crap
[06:46] <raylu> porky: and "works" makes no sense, so "just works" is impossible.
[06:46] <Idiot> Yeah, my u-key just ignored me.
[06:46] <porky> whats sandisk ?
[06:46] <raylu> porky: nothing can "Just work" until it can read my mind
[06:46] <porky> well when i used to plug the usb drive it.
[06:46] <porky> it worked
[06:47] <raylu> porky: it's a particularly nasty brand of usb drive that runs some crap when you plug it in
[06:47] <porky> now it's not
[06:47] <socceroos> Idiot: if you want to seriously use Kubuntu - you'll need to install it on one of your computers
[06:47] <porky> im tired of this linux crap.
[06:47] <raylu> porky: no, it didn't "work," it did what you exepected
[06:47] <socceroos> porky, what the matter
[06:47] <porky> no im talking about kde asking me if i want to open it
[06:47] <raylu> porky: if it wasn't what you wanted (like it is for me), then it would have been broken
[06:47] <Idiot> Ah, but if it doens't work, of course, then I've got to reinstall vista, etc.
[06:48] <porky> how am i supposed to know which device in /dev is my usb drive ?
[06:48] <noaXess> good morning
[06:48] <socceroos> Idiot: you can install Kubuntu along side of vista
[06:48] <raylu> porky: sudo fdisk -l. or just guess. it's usually sdb1
[06:48] <socceroos> as in 'dual boot'
[06:48] <raylu> porky: if you only have one scsi drive
[06:48] <Idiot> It just seems astounding that y'all spend all the time that Linux requires just so you can... uh, what is it you do?
[06:48] <porky> usb is scsi ?
[06:48] <jschall> is there ANY way to make my mouse side buttons work as forward/back in konqueror? they work fine in firefox.
[06:48] <Idiot> Doesn't that require a seperate partition?
[06:48] <noaXess> i have a blocked update in my software updates: kde-style-qtcurve - 0.59.3-1ubuntu1
[06:49] <raylu> porky: no, but you only use one controller, i believe. also, ls -l /dev/disk*
[06:49] <noaXess> what to do with that?
[06:49] <noaXess> or how to install this blocked update? over konsole
[06:49] <jschall> Idiot: not necessarily, look up wubi. it works great and can be uninstalled from windows
[06:49] <MushroomKingdom> Where do I find my WINE C:\ folder from the root dir?
[06:49] <socceroos> Idiot, it does require a separate partition - but Kubuntu can do that for you - also, we 'linux' users do all the same kinds of things you do on XP, just normal stuff.
[06:49] <jschall> MushroomKingdom: /home/username/.wine/drive_c
[06:49] <porky> ugh more typing.
[06:49] <porky> i have work to do .
[06:50]  * porky puts the xp cd back in.
[06:50] <socceroos> Idiot: jschall's suggestion is good
[06:50] <Idiot> Well, on XP I do: internet browsing, video-watching, and game-playing.
[06:50] <Idiot> And that's about the extent of it, aside from some photoshop-raping.
[06:50] <socceroos> I would also recommend downloading and installing wubi - which will then install Kubuntu onto your windows machine like it was another program
[06:50] <Idiot> Wubi?
[06:51] <porky> wtf ?
[06:51] <socceroos> Idiot, thats what i do on linux
[06:51] <porky> ok now this linux crap really sucks.  i ran sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
[06:51] <Idiot> Oh, what kind of games, socc?
[06:51] <porky> and i can see the contents via cd
[06:51] <porky> but konquror cant
[06:51] <porky> whats wrong with this linux crap.
[06:51] <raylu> porky: are you saying you don't have time to type?
[06:51] <porky> raylu: i mean extra typing.
[06:52] <socceroos> porky - if you want help then can I suggest being a bit less verbally animated?
[06:52] <jschall> porky: permissions are probably wrong.
[06:52] <porky> tf ?
[06:52] <svingzemeate> Anyone know of a simple fix for Yaquake hotkey(F12)? Just need to know how to get it working with Jaunty.
[06:52] <Rayner> what's up with ext4 in kubuntu jaunty, I thought it didn't work on kernels < 2.6.29
[06:53] <raylu> porky: and instead, you have time for extra clicking?
[06:53] <porky> yeah.
[06:53] <porky> what do you mean?
[06:53] <socceroos> Idiot: I play (on Ubuntu), WoW, BF1942, BF 2142, Counter Strike:Source and Oblivion
[06:53] <raylu> porky: because in some way, using the mouse is faster than using the keyboard?
[06:53] <Idiot> Never finished Oblivion.
[06:53] <raylu> porky: because it's easier to use a continous input device (the mouse) to do discrete operations
[06:53] <Idiot> Never tried WoW. I'm into Neverwinter Nights for the same thing.
[06:53] <raylu> porky: than a discrete input device (the keyboard)?
[06:53] <porky> what happend to i stick my usb drive in.  kde opens it.
[06:53] <socceroos> Idiot: yeah me neither - i keep getting distracted on side quests.
[06:53] <Idiot> Neverwinter Nights has elements of being an MMORPG, but it's more roleplay-oriented.
[06:54] <porky> windows had the usb drive figured out years ago.  is linux still working on it?  is it a bug in the kernal?
[06:54] <raylu> porky: no, but you don't have it figured out
[06:54] <raylu> porky: and you are blaming it on your software
[06:54] <porky> what happend to i stick my usb drive in.  kde opens it.
[06:55] <porky> it worked 20 mintis ago like that
[06:55] <porky> and yesterday
[06:55] <raylu> porky: did you upgrade to 9.04 since then?
[06:55] <porky> no
[06:55] <raylu> porky: there might be an icon in your panel for recnetly plugged in devices
[06:55] <raylu> porky: i wouldn't know since i removed it
[06:55] <lolipop_> Hi, when i perform a uname -a on 9.04, i can see the "#42-Ubuntu SMP Fri", how can i change that Ubuntu to something else
[06:55] <socceroos> Porky, when you last used your usb drive, did you ask KDE to 'unmount' it or did you just pull it out?
[06:55] <porky> upgrading made my wireless NOT work
[06:55] <raylu> porky: then just mount the device
[06:55] <porky> i just pulled it out, becuase in windows you can just pull it out.
[06:56] <raylu> lolipop_: that's an option set when compiling the kernel... so you can't
[06:56] <raylu> lolipop_: unless you want to roll your own kernel
[06:56] <Idiot> *snickes at socc's suggestive question*
[06:56] <Idiot> Though I assume that WINE has trouble with newer games.
[06:56] <socceroos> Porky, even in windows you can't just pull it out - while Windows makes it look like you're doing no harm - each time you do that, you corrupt the filesystem on the device.
[06:56] <Idiot> i.e., Mass Effect, Fallout 3, Crysis...
[06:57] <raylu> so do most cpus on that last one :P
[06:57] <porky> socceroos. so how would you unmount it on windows.
[06:57] <Idiot> There IS a "safely remove device" thing in Windows.
[06:57] <raylu> porky: "safely" remove device
[06:57] <lolipop_> raylu: i see, for now, my hostname is lolipop, but when i ping it from other machine, my hostname is ubuntu.myLANdomain.com
[06:57] <socceroos> Idiot, WINE is still getting support for DirectX 10, but just to note, WINE actually works better with newer games than with older ones.
[06:57] <raylu> lolipop_: oh. that has nothing to do with it :P
[06:57] <raylu> lolipop_: cat /etc/hostname
[06:57] <socceroos> Idiot: true, that does the same as the 'unmount' in KDE.
[06:58] <lolipop_> raylu: yeah, its lolipop inside
[06:58] <Idiot> on the taskbar is an icon you click, then select your USB drive
[06:58] <fag> now how do i make my wireless work?
[06:58] <raylu> lolipop_: also... what os is the other machine? why is it reverse dns-ing your machine's name during a ping?
[06:58] <mefisto__> it doesn't "corrupt the filesystem on the device" every time. It's just that you run the risk of that every time you do it. eventually, it's gonna happen
[06:58] <str1fe13> Good evening, quick simple question I hope - On a fresh install of Kubuntu Jaunty, what would be ideal sizes of /, /home, and /boot partitions on a 160gb drive? First time installing/using Linux.
[06:58] <fag> when i ran a bunch of upgrades, it screwed with my kernel. and now wireless doesent work.
[06:58] <Idiot> It's got a little green arrow and a gray thing.
[06:58] <raylu> str1fe13: swap?
[06:59] <fag> my wireless works on a fresh installation of intrepid.
[06:59] <str1fe13> swap is 2gb matching my ram.
[06:59] <fag> via kdenetworkmanager
[06:59] <raylu> str1fe13: you can spend 10-100MB on /boot. dividing the other two up is sort of up to you
[06:59] <noaXess> i have a blocked update: kde-style-qtcurve
[06:59] <lolipop_> raylu: i have a m0n0-wall router in my LAN
[06:59] <socceroos> mefisto__: it will only break the filesystem if a write is in progress - but each time you do it then it will still corrupt the Log for the partition.
[07:00] <noaXess> if i do a : sudo apt-get install kde-style-qtcurve then i get: kde4-style-qtcurve-kdeconfig will be removed..
[07:00] <raylu> noaXess: because the two conflict with each other
[07:00] <raylu> noaXess: aptitude show kde-style-qtcurve
[07:00] <noaXess> raylu: ok.. an now? install kde.style-qtcurve?
[07:01] <raylu> noaXess: if you don't want kde4-style-qtcurve-kdeconfig, then sure.
[07:01] <str1fe13> raylu: how about this then...how necessary is a separate boot partition?
[07:01] <Idiot> Socc, what did you like about about linux when you first started?
[07:01] <raylu> str1fe13: not. but some people like to not have it mounted
[07:01] <raylu> str1fe13: also, it's very useful if you have multiple OSs
[07:02] <fag> why is it in windows you can resize you rpartition with out a boot disk, but in linux you can resize mounted partitions?
[07:02] <raylu> str1fe13: splitting up / and /home isn't necessary either unless you plan to reinstall linux. or have multiple OSs, again
[07:02] <socceroos> Idiot: I was interested in Linux to begin with because i found windows far to restrictive
[07:02] <fag> err can't
[07:02] <fag> err let me repharse
[07:02] <socceroos> I wanted to explore the world of software and Windows just held me back.
[07:02] <fag> why is it in windows you can resize your partition without a boot disk, but in linux you cant resize mounted partitions?
[07:02] <raylu> fag: how can you resize your partition while it's mounted in windows? i dont' believe that
[07:02] <Idiot> Ahh. You know, I can't say I've ever thought in Windows, "damn, I wish I could do this, but I just can't." Maybe I've used Windows too long/don't think open-mindedly enough.
[07:03] <raylu> fag: through a bit of work it's possible in linux, though
[07:03] <socceroos> Idiot: it completely depends on what you want to do
[07:03] <Idiot> Well, if it's got uTorrent and can run .exes, I'm fairly satisfied.
[07:03] <raylu> socceroos: i disagree. it completely depends on whether you want to do what you want to do or you're just happy with what the developers of your software wanted to do
[07:03] <str1fe13> raylu: so basically for a first linux install having swap its own partition and everything else on the remaining 158gb is perfectly fine?  I don't plan on using other OSes on the computer I'm installing Kubuntu on, or reinstalling any time soon.
[07:03] <fag> thinking open minded is nice, but redundancy sucks.  linux makes everything harder.
[07:04] <socceroos> for example, you would find it hard to turn your Windows XP machine into a fully functional Primary Domain Controller for an enterprise network, but I could do that right now if i wanted to on my linux box  - its just so flexible.
[07:04] <mefisto__> Idiot: in windows I'm constantly thinking "I wish I could select and middleclick to copy/paste"
[07:04] <raylu> str1fe13: yep. and that's why it's the default the installer uses
[07:04] <daskreech> str1fe13: I'd make a /home
[07:04] <Idiot> Really? Huh.
[07:04] <Idiot> I never would have even thought to do that, mefisto.
[07:04] <raylu> fag: that's the price for making everything possible
[07:04] <daskreech> Idiot: you'll miss it on'ceit's gone
[07:04] <Idiot> I use it already to navigate the webbie.
[07:05] <fag> when im in windows am always like, damn i wish i could program raw sockets.
[07:05] <socceroos> mefisto__:  I must say, I love the middle click copy too! =)
[07:05] <daskreech> fag: Redundancy isn't athat bad
[07:05] <Idiot> Once what is? uTorrent, dask?
[07:05] <noaXess> raylu: which of the two package should i leave in the system: kde4-style-qtcurve-kdeconfig or kde-style-qtcurve?
[07:05] <raylu> daskreech: why make a /home if you don't plan to install other OSs?
[07:05] <raylu> noaXess: that depends on which you want
[07:05] <Idiot> CTRL+C always satisfied me, personally. xD
[07:05] <raylu> noaXess: i don't even know what qtcurve is :P
[07:05] <daskreech> raylu: you will
[07:06] <noaXess> raylu: ok :)
[07:06] <raylu> Idiot: the mentaility about select = copy is: why would you highlight if you weren't copying?
[07:06] <mefisto__> Idiot: that was kind of my point. if you don't know you can do it, you'll probably never want to. another one is middle-clicking or right-clicking the maximize button to maximize vertically or horizontally
[07:06] <raylu> daskreech: yeah, i've come to realize that too. but he said he wasn't planning on it, so...
[07:06] <Idiot> Maybe I was highlighting because some idiot used hard-to-see colors, raylu. :p
[07:06] <raylu> mefisto__: actually, that exists in windows 7 when you drag to the side of the desktop. on the other hand placing windows on the side is now a pain
[07:07] <daskreech> raylu: More useful then. Means he'll build up a lot of data that he will want to save before he hits a reinstall time
[07:07] <raylu> Idiot: ah. it doesn't do it automatically in firefox, i think.
[07:07] <Idiot> Interesing, mefisto...
[07:07] <daskreech> assuming str1fe13 is a he :)
[07:07] <raylu> daskreech: yep :D
[07:08] <str1fe13> daskreech: I'm installing Kubuntu on basically a throwaway laptop.  It's not even my primary computer by any means, everything important I do on my desktop
[07:08] <str1fe13> this is mostly for experimentation/fun
[07:08] <daskreech> str1fe13: do what you want then. Experiment till your eyes cross and your fingers gnarl
[07:09] <socceroos> Idiot: I'm out for a while, gotta get some work done =) Hope it all goes well mate!
[07:09] <Idiot> So, to all you Linux-peoples, do tell: which is worse: XP or the latest MacOS?
[07:09] <Idiot> Thanks for the help, socc.
[07:09] <rufong> str1: have fun, tink i'm gonna play with xfce later on, 9.04 stable so time to install something over 8.04
[07:09] <raylu> Idiot: any mac os
[07:09] <Idiot> Youch, raylu.
[07:09] <svingzemeate> Ello all, anyone know of a fix for Yaquake hotkey(F12)? Just need to know how to get it working with Jaunty.
[07:09] <Idiot> That's a low blow.
[07:10] <str1fe13> daskreech: I'm not sure about fingers gnarling, just wanted to get a feel of the purpose of various partitions and how I should organize them for trying out Linux
[07:10] <daskreech> !ot
[07:10] <str1fe13> I'm probably going to be using this laptop to take notes in class, but nothing incredibly major
[07:10] <daskreech> str1fe13: In general any area that might need it's own management gets it's own parittion
[07:10] <raylu> str1fe13: make sure to turn off the login/logout/etc sounds :D
[07:10] <Wolfcastle> I get a message saying my mplayer is old and will not work well with smplayer
[07:10] <Idiot> Why MacOS > XP?
[07:11] <Wolfcastle> Is there a way to update mplayer?
[07:11] <raylu> Idiot: er, you asked which is worse.
[07:11] <daskreech> Wolfcastle: What release of Kubuntu are you using ?
[07:11] <Idiot> Oh.
[07:11] <Wolfcastle> daskreech: jaunty
[07:11] <Idiot> I knew that.
[07:11] <str1fe13> Idiot: Mac/Windows/Linux is a silly argument, it all comes down to a person's preferences in the long run.  All 3 have their advantages and disadvantages for each user.
[07:11] <Idiot> Yeah, Mac sucks!
[07:11] <daskreech> Wolfcastle: should be pretty up to date
[07:12] <Idiot> I still take some slight snooty pride in pissing on Mac.
[07:12] <Idiot> Electrocution hurts, though.
[07:12] <daskreech> Idiot: can you take that discussion to offtopic ?
[07:13] <Idiot> Which discussion? I can give it a try. : p
[07:13] <daskreech> The whole windows versus linux verus Mac
[07:13] <Wolfcastle> daskreech: I don't know, it's version 1.0rc2 and according to the official page it's outdated
[07:13] <Idiot> Versus etch-a-sketch.
[07:14] <Idiot> etch-a-sketch = best OS ever
[07:14] <Idiot> Nothing you can't do.
[07:14] <raylu> Idiot: you can't shake it
[07:14] <str1fe13> Alright, last question.  Say I put / and /home on separate partitions as suggested...which should be bigger than the other, very generally?
[07:14] <Idiot> Well, you CAN, it's just not great.
[07:14] <raylu> str1fe13: /home, in my case
[07:14] <daskreech> str1fe13: /home
[07:15] <daskreech> str1fe13: By a fair amount
[07:15] <raylu> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[07:15] <raylu> /dev/sda6              14G  4.4G  8.9G  34% /
[07:15] <str1fe13> Alrighty, making / 20gb and the other 135gb /home then, I spose.
[07:15] <str1fe13> I'll be back if something catches fire.  Thanks for all the help!
[07:15] <daskreech> str1fe13: 20GB is huge
[07:16] <str1fe13> :S
[07:16] <daskreech> I have / as 7 Gb
[07:16] <daskreech>  I've never come close to filling it
[07:16] <str1fe13> hmm
[07:16] <daskreech> 10GB is probably more than you will ever need
[07:16] <raylu> daskreech: i can totally imagine str1fe13 installing *ubuntu-desktop
[07:16] <str1fe13> :s
[07:16] <daskreech> unles you are installing all the desktops
[07:16] <raylu> in which case your menus get filled with crap :D
[07:17] <daskreech> then 15 GB is overkill but safe
[07:17] <Idiot> If you're tech-savvy and you know it, say "I am"
[07:17] <str1fe13> no, im just going with basic kubuntu install, with a few apps here and there if I'm unhappy with the defaults.
[07:18] <daskreech> str1fe13: 10GB
[07:18] <daskreech> you can grow it later if needed
[07:18] <str1fe13> I don't really picture myself installing much more than firefox, codecs and drivers, and perhaps a games pack for killing time though
[07:18] <Idiot> I guess no "I ams"?
[07:19] <str1fe13> *nod* I'll just make it 8gb for the time being, since that's about what's left over if i make /home 150
[07:20] <str1fe13> i think thats all i need then unless something catches on fire
[07:21] <Idiot> Or someONE.
[07:22] <Idiot> or worse, someWHERE.
[07:24] <Idiot> Anyone else tired?
[07:24] <str1fe13> I've consumed way too many Jones Sodas to be tired.
[07:24] <Idiot> I've eaten about twenty cups of peanuts.
[07:25] <Idiot> I'm pretty not-so-good-feeling.
[07:25] <Idiot> Anyway, I'm off. Thanks for helping me to dick around with Linux, everyone.
[07:36] <digdeep> does anyone has problem to watch youtube. I can watch it, but there is no sound
[07:38] <cece__> i tried to install ku9.04 on my pc with flashdisk ,but when i can't use my keyboard when it came to log on window
[07:38] <jschall> how can i make kwin run with an environment variable?
[07:39] <raylu> cece__: can you log in to a tty? (ctrl+alt+f1)?
[07:39] <cece__> yes
[07:40] <cece__> but with the alternate iso
[07:40] <cece__> with the desktop.iso ,it doesn't work out
[07:41] <AaNnAa> hi2all
[07:42] <daskreech> hi2AaNnAa
[07:43] <MushroomKingdom> Ugh, So WINE won't recognise my CD. I can't play a game now because of this. Any one have any ideas of getting this to work?
[07:43] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: winecfg, change what counts as a cd
[07:44] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: more likely, there's some drm on it. securom, etc.
[07:44] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: Just configure wine or is there an actual program?
[07:44] <raylu> jschall: you could change your login type in kdm to .xsession and write your own .xsession... but there's probably an easier way
[07:45] <raylu> jschall: oh, ~/.kde/env
[07:45] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: "winecfg"
[07:46] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: I can't find it
[07:46] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: er... it should come with wine. just run it
[07:47] <str1fe13> righto then
[07:47] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: Ok, got it. Uh, what exactly am I changing?
[07:47] <str1fe13> i was not expecting that install to only take 15 minutes.  but im not arguing. :D
[07:47] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: Can I set it to read .iso files?
[07:47] <daskreech> str1fe13: Guess how much software it installed :)
[07:48] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: no... you have to mount them
[07:48] <str1fe13> everything that's on the live cd.
[07:48] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: you're adding the mount points of your iso files to the list of cd drives
[07:48] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: What about if the .iso is on a cd?
[07:48] <str1fe13> i'm IRCing from linux on my hard drive now.  that's a lot of stuff in not a lot of time.
[07:48] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: ok
[07:48] <daskreech> str1fe13: No installation of Office software or anything needed afterwards :) nice :)
[07:48] <Captain_Haddock> !nvidia
[07:48] <str1fe13> im pretty sure my windows install took a few hours at least
[07:49] <str1fe13> and that was just windows.
[07:49] <daskreech> str1fe13: A few days
[07:49] <str1fe13> dasrreech: aw, it wasnt that bad:p
[07:50] <daskreech> str1fe13: how long did it take to do anti virus installs and spyware checkers and Office stuff and tools so that the computer was usable ?
[07:50] <daskreech> You can say it
[07:50] <daskreech> Days :)
[07:51] <raylu> anti-virus... spyware... i don't have either of those on windows
[07:51] <elliottm> i never install antibirus and stuff
[07:51] <raylu> but i have clamav on linux... :P
[07:51] <str1fe13> i still don't have office tools on my windows install haha, that's what google docs is for.
[07:51] <str1fe13> I'd guess that installing windows and all components to make it usable took almost all of a saturday.
[07:52] <str1fe13> once i got my games and misc software on, that was a multiple-day deal in the end, but eh
[07:52] <str1fe13> i still like this better
[07:53] <Captain_Haddock> anyone know where I can edit the driver *version* for the nvidia driver? I can't start X now because of a driver mismatch
[07:53] <daskreech> in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:53] <Captain_Haddock> daskreech: that just specifies "nvidia" and not the version of the driver
[07:53] <Captain_Haddock> X complains that I have 1.77 in some places and 1.80 elsewhere
[07:53] <daskreech> Captain_Haddock: Oh that's in your modules
[07:54] <daskreech> happy hunting :)
[07:54] <Captain_Haddock> daskreech: where would that be? :P
[07:54] <Captain_Haddock> it isn't in the X11 directory from what I can tell
[07:54] <daskreech> It won't be
[07:55] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: I still can't seem to get the game running. It wont even open when I click on the .exe in the cd
[07:56] <Captain_Haddock> is there a commandline equivalent for jockey?
[07:58] <daskreech> what does jockey do again?
[07:59] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: run it in the terminal. wine gives quite a bit of output
[07:59] <raylu> !find jockey
[07:59] <mefisto__> MushroomKingdom: what's the game? can you find it here: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[07:59] <raylu> !find jockey-kde
[07:59] <raylu> !info jockey-kde
[07:59] <raylu> that was not enlightening.
[08:00] <daskreech> Ah umm not sure it would be needed on the command line
[08:00] <mefisto__> jockey is "hardware drivers" in the system submenu
[08:01] <MushroomKingdom> raylu: I don't quite follow
[08:01] <MushroomKingdom> mefisto_: Myst III exile
[08:02] <raylu> MushroomKingdom: run the executable in the terminal. "wine file.exe"
[08:02] <MushroomKingdom> ok
[08:04] <labele1> ciao
[08:05] <labele1> come  faccio a sapere che qualcuno mi legge?
[08:05] <raylu> !it | labele1
[08:06] <mefisto__> MushroomKingdom: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1820
[08:07] <MushroomKingdom> mefisto__: ah, ok. Grabbing the nocd now
[08:07] <labele1> hi room
[08:07] <str1fe13> Is there not a simple terminal command to install flash, java, and all that other miscellaneous good stuff in one fell swoop?  I seem to remember seeing it somewhere.
[08:11] <daskreech> !info smplayer
[08:11] <gigasoft> i have problem with screen drivers, mu screen works at 50 hz, is any way to inpruve it
[08:11] <mefisto__> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[08:11] <gigasoft> (mu english is not so good, sorry :( )
[08:12] <mefisto__> str1fe13: I think kubuntu-restricted-extras might be what you're looking for
[08:12] <daskreech> gigasoft: Which language do you prefer?
[08:12] <gigasoft> montenegrian
[08:13] <gigasoft> any help with mu refresh rate?
[08:13] <daskreech> !me
[08:13] <daskreech> Ha
[08:13] <raylu> heh
[08:14] <daskreech> gigasoft: you can set it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
how
[08:14] <daskreech> gigasoft: You want it to work at 50hz ?
[08:15] <gigasoft> daskreech> no at higher rate
[08:15] <daskreech> Which rate?
[08:15] <gigasoft> 75 hz
[08:15] <daskreech> and it is at 50hz now ?
[08:15] <gigasoft> :(
[08:15] <gigasoft> yes
[08:16] <daskreech> ok pastebin the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:16] <str1fe13> thank you, though that one didnt seem to get flash
[08:16] <daskreech> str1fe13: It should
[08:16] <str1fe13> just must not have seen it then.
[08:16] <str1fe13> going to try youtube...
[08:17] <str1fe13> yeah, youtube videos won't load.
[08:18] <raylu> !info flashplugin-installer
[08:18] <str1fe13> there we go
[08:18] <str1fe13> danke
[08:18] <gigasoft> daskreech: so what to change
[08:19] <raylu> kubuntu-restricted-extras actually pulled in flashplugin-installer for me, but upgrading firefox broke it so i had to reinstall. i don't think that should be a problem for you on a clean install, though
[08:22] <herman> When you use konversation, how do you find the list of chat rooms that you saved?
[08:23] <daskreech> that you saved?
[08:24] <herman> After it shows me all of the chat rooms it asked me if I want to save list. I clicked yes.
[08:29] <raylu> herman: it just gets saved to a text file
[08:31] <herman> Thank you
[08:33] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[08:38] <herman> I found the list I saved in the document folder.
[08:42] <herman> Is there a easy way to enable my usb ports on ubuntu 9:04. I googled the problem and noticed a lot of people have the same problem
[08:42] <raylu> "enable?"
[08:43] <herman> I have three usb ports that do not work
[08:44] <herman> It does recognize my sd card slot
[08:46] <raylu> what are you plugging in?
[08:47] <herman> Flash drive
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> herman: run.   sudo fdisk -l
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> herman: does the partition show in that output?
[08:51] <herman> yes it does show
[08:52] <raylu> then this isn't a problem with the usb drives
[08:53] <raylu> just mount it :D
[08:54] <ActionParsnip1> herman: your usb is "enabled" then isnt it
[08:54] <herman> When i typed in fdisk -1 it said invalid option
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> herman: its ell not one
[08:55] <raylu> ...?
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> herman: we want to list the partitions, list starts with l, sudo fdisk -l
[08:57] <herman> It shows 3 partitions
[08:58] <herman> linux, extended and swap
[08:59] <herman> sda 1, sda 2 and sda 5.
[09:00] <raylu> sounds like a legitimate issue then. could you pastebin: ls -l /dev/disk/*
[09:00] <raylu> also, lspci -v
[09:01] <ActionParsnip1> herman: does it show a device in lsusb
[09:04] <raylu> oh yeah... lsusb...
[09:08] <herman> 13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80) (prog-if 10)
[09:08] <herman>         Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 009f
[09:08] <herman>         Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19
[09:09] <herman>         Memory at c0004000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
[09:09] <herman>         Capabilities: <access denied>
[09:09] <herman>         Kernel driver in use: ohci_hcd
[09:10] <herman> it lists 3 usb controllers that all say the same
[09:10] <raylu> hrm. no idea.
[09:10] <raylu> could you pastebin ls -l /dev/disk/*
[09:10] <raylu> but lsusb would be more useful, so show us that fist
[09:10] <raylu> *first
[09:11] <herman> ok
[09:12] <herman> herman@ubuntuherman:~$  lsusb
[09:12] <herman> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[09:12] <herman> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[09:12] <herman> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> herman: use pastebin please
[09:14] <herman> herman@ubuntuherman:~$  ls -l /dev/disk/*
[09:14] <herman> /dev/disk/by-id:
[09:14] <herman> total 0
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 2009-04-28 19:55 ata-HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB -> ../../sda
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 ata-HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB-part1 -> ../../sda1
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 ata-HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB-part2 -> ../../sda2
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 ata-HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB-part5 -> ../../sda5
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 2009-04-28 19:55 scsi-SATA_HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB -> ../../sda
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 scsi-SATA_HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB-part1 -> ../../sda1
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 scsi-SATA_HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB-part2 -> ../../sda2
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 scsi-SATA_HTS548040M9AT00_MRL252L2KL18SB-part5 -> ../../sda5
[09:14] <herman> /dev/disk/by-path:
[09:14] <herman> total 0
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 2009-04-28 19:55 pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:0:0 -> ../../sda
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 -> ../../sda1
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:0:0-part2 -> ../../sda2
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:0:0-part5 -> ../../sda5
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 2009-04-28 19:55 pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:1:0 -> ../../sr0
[09:14] <herman> /dev/disk/by-uuid:
[09:14] <herman> total 0
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 310091a6-28f1-4125-9c4a-7bc07c873775 -> ../../sda5
[09:14] <herman> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2009-04-28 19:55 34ea9e20-e919-4070-9def-3841dcb49591 -> ../../sda1
[09:14] <herman> herman@ubuntuherman:~$
[09:18] <skierpage> Konqueror 4.2.2 in Kubuntu 9.04 installed flashplugin-installer and flashplugin-nonfree, and I installed libxine1-ffmpeg , but Flash movies are silent.  I'm not sure what I'm missing.
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> skierpage: http://linuxlab.dk/tipsntricks/flash-konqueror
[09:24] <skierpage> ActionParsnip1 I had to do scan for new Plugins to get Flash movies to play.  Now they play but no sound.
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> skierpage: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.misc/2008-10/msg00177.html
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> skierpage: and try: sudo apt-get install libflashsupport
[09:28] <herman> I have to learn how to use pastebin
[09:29] <ian__> hello?
[09:34] <skierpage> ActionParsnip1, "Package libflashsupport is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[09:34] <skierpage> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=libflashsupport agrees it's not available for Jaunty
[09:34] <ActionParsnip1> skierpage: hmm, did the other link work?
[09:36] <skierpage> ActionParsnip1, I'll try "alsa-oss" ...
[09:37] <Sarasvati> hello
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> howdy
[09:44] <MushroomKingdom> Hello, I need to extract an .ace file but ARK doesn't recognise it.
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> MushroomKingdom: sudo apt-get install unace
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> MushroomKingdom: and sudo apt-get install unace-nonfree
[09:45] <drbobb> hey, in jaunty the mouse wheel can be used to scroll a file displayed by `less' in a konsole - neat :)
[09:45] <MushroomKingdom> Thank you
[09:47] <ActionParsnip1> MushroomKingdom: i think ark may now know how to manage them, if not, man ace will show how
[09:48] <MushroomKingdom> kk
[09:50] <skierpage> ActionParsnip1, I installed alsa-oss, it didn't help.  Maybe it's an issue with 32-bit/64-bit flash player
[09:51] <ActionParsnip1> skierpage: well you should really only have 1 flashplugin installed
[09:56] <skierpage> I only have one /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so , it's 32-bit .  I'm on x64 Kubuntu
[09:56] <skierpage> ah well, I'll try some more tomorrow.
[09:56] <ActionParsnip1> skierpage: you could try the native 64bit one, some people have had success with it
[09:58] <trylik> hi i started a session in "failsafe" or "safe" mode , how can i "maximize" web browser windows to whole screen?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> trylik: F11
[10:00] <trylik> it doesnt work, try yourself
[10:01] <vegas513> so is there a way to go from Qt 4.5 down to an older version?  9.04 came with 4.5 and it is causing video issues for me
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> trylik: maybe safemode removes that feature
[10:02] <trylik> i think so, but somehow difernet windows have different sizes... ActionParsnip1
[10:16] <trylik> is there any way to block right click in kde4?
[10:18] <daskreech> kiosk
[10:19] <afief> Why doesn't pidgin join the kde sys-tray? it does in gnome
[10:24] <Mamarok> afief: because it's not a KDE app?
[10:25] <afief> Mamarok: isn't the system tray a freedekstop.org standard?
[10:25] <afief> Mamarok: it used to work fine in 8.10
[10:25] <Mamarok> hm, if it worked in 8.10 it should still work then
[10:26] <afief> doesn't on my machine, I did a clean install a few hours ago
[10:28] <afief> Mamarok: perhaps you could give it? if you confirm it I'll send a bug report on launchpad
[10:29] <Mamarok> afief: wait, downloading Pidgin (I use Irssi by default)
[10:29] <Mamarok> afief: also, there is Quassel in kde 4.2 now...
[10:29] <drbobb> afief: systray is not used by pidgin by default
[10:29] <drbobb> afief: if you want it in the systray, there's an option for it in pidgin's setup, it works fine with kde's systray
[10:29] <drbobb> but you need to activate it cause it defaults to off
[10:30] <Mamarok> drbobb: thx :)
[10:30]  * Mamarok doesn't download Pidgin then :)
[10:32] <afief> Mamarok: E: Couldn't find package Quassel
[10:33] <bazhang> !info quassel
[10:33] <afief> drbobb: thanks, weird though it seems this option was always the default(at least since dapper)
[10:49] <drbobb> pidgin is cooperating with the kde systray quite fine on my system
[10:49] <drbobb> and yes, the systray api is an open standard, kde/gnome/other apps can interoperate
[10:50] <drbobb> otoh QuasselIRC is crap
[10:50] <drbobb> well, highly immature - tu put it more kindly
[10:51] <adasz> how can i add and user to an group?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[11:27] <myloving_ubuntu> hello
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> werd
[11:27] <myloving_ubuntu> plz aswer me
[11:27] <myloving_ubuntu> werd
[11:27] <myloving_ubuntu> ???
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> werd = hi
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> wassup?
[11:27] <myloving_ubuntu> piben
[11:27] <myloving_ubuntu> wkwkkwkw
[11:28] <myloving_ubuntu> why i ship ubuntu but never come to my home
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> english please
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> do you mean shippit?
[11:28] <myloving_ubuntu> y
[11:28] <ActionParsnip1> it'll be as long as it'll be
[11:29] <myloving_ubuntu> it has been 2month
[11:29] <ActionParsnip1> mine took that long (UK here)
[11:29] <ActionParsnip1> plus there is a huge demand for disks due to the recent new release
[11:29] <myloving_ubuntu> :-/
[11:30] <myloving_ubuntu> :-X
[11:30] <myloving_ubuntu> ??
[11:30] <giuseppe__> hello
[11:30] <ActionParsnip1> myloving_ubuntu: what?
[11:30] <myloving_ubuntu> ?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> myloving_ubuntu: 2 smileys isnt a question. do you have another support question?
[11:31] <myloving_ubuntu> no
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> myloving_ubuntu: why not upgrade via www
[11:54] <reisi> any ideas where could I find some ubuntu-kernel maintainers from the irc? i think i've found an usb regression from 2.6.24 -> 2.6.28, no ideas though how to further investigate
[12:03] <kjcole> I recently went from Hardy to Intrepid.  Now the KDE desktop is slightly offset to the right, and the right edge of the screen appears on the left.  Starting a session in Gnome doesn't have that problem.
[12:04] <kjcole> Suggestions?  (I can see the screen shift after logging in, while KDE's splash screen is showing the various initializing icons.)
[12:08] <mehrab> is there any guide for connecting a wired connection through plasma widget network manager?
[12:13] <kjcole> I recently went from Hardy to Intrepid.  Now the KDE desktop is slightly offset to the right, and the right edge of the screen appears on the left.  Starting a session in Gnome doesn't have that problem.
[12:13] <kjcole> Suggestions?  (I can see the screen shift after logging in, while KDE's splash screen is showing the various initializing icons.)
[12:21] <domker> i have no sound in flash plugin :/ How to fix it? (clean install Kubuntu 9.04)
[12:24] <domker> i have no sound in flash plugin :/ How to fix it?
[12:26] <noaXess> !backup
[12:28] <millun> hi i am wondering how to change my resolution
[12:28] <millun> nvidia
[12:28] <millun> it won't allow me to choose 1680x1050
[12:28] <millun> sure i've put it in xorg.conf
[12:28] <millun> also edited vertical and horizontal refresh rates
[12:29] <millun> acer p224w + nvidia gf 5500fx
[12:29] <dwidmann> millun: so it won't let you do it with nvidia-settings?
[12:29] <millun> nope
[12:31] <dwidmann> millun, hmm, just a second then, I'll see if I can come up with something
[12:31] <millun> that'd be awesome dwidmann
[12:42] <dwidmann> millun: Okay, we're going to edit your xorg.conf, so "kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf", then scroll down to "Section "Monitor""
[12:44] <afeijo> I updated to 8.10 last night, kate worked fine, but now it dont open, and on the konsole a lot of errors shows up.  I removed it and installed again with apt-get, but the problem remains
[12:44] <dwidmann> Add a line - HorizSync 30-81
[12:44] <dwidmann> millun: then aanother line, VertRefresh 56-75
[12:44] <dwidmann> millun: before restarting X though, I'm going to verify that they're okay
[12:46] <dwidmann> millun: crap, that was my other monitor
[12:46] <dwidmann> millun: (one of mine is 1680x1050x60)
[12:49] <dwidmann> :( ctrl+alt+bksp doesn't work
[12:50] <Pici> !dontzap | dwidmann
[12:50] <afeijo> I updated to 8.10 last night, kate worked fine, but now it dont open, and on the konsole a lot of errors shows up.  I removed it and installed again with apt-get, but the problem remains
[12:51] <dwidmann> Pici: hmm, still doesn't seem to be working
[12:51] <Pici> dwidmann: Ironically, you need to restart X once for ctrl-alt-backspace to work :/
[12:52] <dwidmann> Pici: ah, that explains
[12:52] <afeijo> damn, it still dont run dvd movie disks :(
[12:53] <schlumpf> hi
[12:56] <schlumpf> i've question ... how can i get help ?
[13:02] <domker> no audio in flash. Someone can help me?
[13:04] <ikonia> domker: all flash sites or just specifics
[13:04] <domker> ikonia: all websites with video flash players
[13:06] <ikonia> domker: how did you install flash ?
[13:07] <comedit> I am not able to to acitvate wireless through networkapplet
[13:08] <comedit> There is a tickbox enable wireless but it is not responding
[13:08] <comedit> anybody a clue what could be wrong
[13:12] <jwoko> halo??
[13:21] <domker_> ikonia: sorry, my ISP has disabled the internet for a while.
[13:21] <ikonia> no problem
[13:22] <domker_> ikonia: so, how i fix problem with no sound in flashplugin
[13:22] <domker_> ?
[13:22] <ikonia> domker_: how did you install flash ?
[13:22] <domker_> ikonia: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[13:22] <tyfon> install kubuntu-restricted-extras and you get flash/java etc
[13:23] <ikonia> domker_: did you not install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[13:24] <domker_> ikonia: I tried to install flash-nonfree, adobe-flash etc.. - the same problem
[13:24] <ikonia> domker_: install the package "flashplugin-nonfree" exactly like that
[13:26] <domker_> ikonia: oki i remove all flash packages and install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:27] <noaXess> does anybody use dcfldd?
[13:27] <comedit> I am not able to to acitvate wireless through networkapplet
[13:27] <comedit> There is a tickbox enable wireless but it is not responding
[13:28] <comedit> anybody a clue
[13:28] <domker_> ikonia: no sound :/
[13:28] <comedit> noaXess: i don't i think
[13:28] <noaXess> or dd?
[13:29] <noaXess> i want create a harddisk image, compressed image to restore it later
[13:29] <domker_> ikonia: some idea?
[13:29] <noaXess> normaly i just copy a harddisk with dd if=inut-hd of=output-hd conv=noerror,sync bs=4k
[13:30] <noaXess> i found that to create a compressed partition image..: dd if=/dev/hda1 | gzip > /home/hda1.bin.gz
[13:30] <comedit> noaXess: did you try clonezilla
[13:30] <noaXess> comedit: no.. link?
[13:31] <comedit> google clonezilla burn the image and of you go
[13:31] <noaXess> comedit: ok.. found it :)
[13:31] <ikonia> domker_: what arch are you on
[13:33] <domker_> ikonia: ??
[13:33] <dwidmann> domker_: uname -m
[13:34] <domker_> ikonia: i686
[13:34] <ikonia> most odd
[13:39] <domker_> ikonia: i try boot kubuntu 9.04 from CD and i try flash there
[13:39] <ikonia> cd's not the best test ground, but sure, worth a look
[13:40] <lokai> could someone help me with getting my crontab working? I'm trying to run a python script on every hour. I input a line "0 * * * * python /path/to/script.py" It doesn't seem to work, though. Any thoughts?
[13:44] <vmt> Hello all :) someone knows a good open-source extranet solution?
[13:50] <alistrone> mmm
[13:50] <alistrone> opensuse
[13:50] <Mamarok> alistrone: behave!
[13:55] <BluesKaj> G'Day All
[13:58] <millun> dwidmann: i had that
[13:58] <dwidmann> millun: that was the first thing that popped into my head, but it might not be what we're looking for
[13:59] <dwidmann> millun: now I have more ideas :)
[13:59] <noaXess> is there another, newer verison of k3b for jaunty available?
[14:00] <dwidmann> noaXess: I don't think so, why?
[14:01] <BluesKaj> there is some python app that is taking up 75% of cpu load, i couldn't isolate the culprit , so I killed it in system monitor . Anyone else have this experience and if so , is there a fix?
[14:03] <Pici> BluesKaj: What app?
[14:03] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: ps aux |  grep python might have been ableto give a clue
[14:04] <BluesKaj> Pici, wish i knew
[14:04] <trylik> how can i adjust window size when loging to "safemode"?
[14:05] <afeijo> how can I change my ubuntu server IP ?
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Pici, kinda difficult now that I killed the process
[14:06] <Pici> Yeah :/
[14:07] <BluesKaj> wonder if reloging in can replicate it ..brb
[14:07] <domker> No sound in flash plugin - the same problem on Kubuntu booted from CD //i have Realtek ALC850
[14:07] <noaXess> dwidmann: why not ;) (k3b)
[14:07] <noaXess> k4b
[14:08] <dwidmann> noaXess: because it's not anywhere near ready yet, as far as I know
[14:08] <ikonia> domker: I'm wondering if the problem is with the sound interface rather than flash
[14:08] <noaXess> dwidmann: but there will be a newer verison soon, right?
[14:08] <dwidmann> noaXess: I wish they would have ported first, released that, then went about their massive change ...
[14:09] <domker> ikonia: sound in flash work fine on Kubuntu 8.10
[14:09] <ikonia> domker: your not using that so it's not much help
[14:09] <canen> morning folks
[14:10] <canen> according to go-oo it is available in ubuntu as openoffice.org
[14:10] <canen> so does ubuntu use go-oo by default instead of the upstream openoffice?
[14:11] <ikonia> canen: what is go-oo ?
[14:11] <canen> http://go-oo.org/
[14:12] <canen> ikonia: i think it is just a customised version of openoffice
[14:12] <ikonia> canen: ubuntu uses open office - I don't know what go-oo is in relation to ubuntu
[14:12] <afeijo> how can I change my ubuntu server IP ?
[14:13] <canen> ikonia: it is openoffice. i was looking to try it but on their  download page they say you can install it by installing openoffice.org
[14:13] <canen> ikonia: which is kinda confusing, so i was wondering if ubuntu actually uses go-oo by default
[14:13] <canen> afeijo: /etc/network/interfaces
[14:14] <afeijo> canen: that file have just 2 lines, no IP
[14:15] <canen> afeijo: if you want to give your server a static ip that's where it's done
[14:15] <afeijo> ok
[14:15] <ikonia> canen: openoffice.org is a website
[14:15] <ikonia> canen: how can you install a website
[14:15] <canen> afeijo: man interfaces for more info
[14:15] <canen> ikonia: openoffice.org is also the name of the product :)
[14:16] <ikonia> canen: it's utter tosh
[14:16] <canen> ikonia: it seems ubuntu runs go-oo by default so that answers my questions
[14:16] <ikonia> comedit: they are just linking directly to the open office packages in the distros
[14:17] <ikonia> comedit: what makes you think it runs go-oo by default
[14:17] <canen> ikonia: i assuming you mean me :)
[14:17] <ikonia> canen: correct, well spotted ;)
[14:17] <ikonia> comedit: sorry
[14:17] <canen> ikonia: http://www.linux.com/feature/154364 and other places
[14:18] <ikonia> canen: I find that hard to believe
[14:18] <canen> ikonia: why?
[14:18] <ikonia> canen: a big factor is that the package "openoffice.org" isn't even a package
[14:18] <canen> ikonia: i know, it is a group
[14:19] <canen> ikonia: what exactly is the issue?
[14:19] <ikonia> I just find it hard to believe that the "open office" pushed by ubuntu would actually be a deriviant code base
[14:19] <ikonia> more so as it's never actually mentioned anywhere
[14:19] <canen> ikonia: well it is
[14:20] <canen> ikonia: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+question/14965
[14:20] <ikonia> I wonder if any of the maintainers are free
[14:20] <ikonia> ahh you have something already
[14:20] <canen> i mean even debian uses go-oo
[14:21] <ikonia> canen: ahh so some of the goo build patches
[14:21] <ikonia> more research on my parts is needed, very interesting
[14:21] <ikonia> great point
[14:23]  * canen goes off to try firefox 3.4 beta 4
[14:24] <canen> *beta 5
[14:27] <Kovert> Using Jaunty where can I enable wide screen support?
[14:29] <Kovert> !xorg.conf
[14:32] <afeijo_BR> can I use geany to open files thru ssh ?
[14:35] <genii> afeijo_BR: I don't believe you can initiate an sshfs from inside it. But if you have an existing sshfs mount just point it to that dir for the files
[14:36] <afeijo_BR> genii: damn, Kate can but kate isnt working here today, I updated to 8.10
[14:37] <afeijo_BR> genii: I have it mounted, it is really slow, takes tens of minutes
[14:37] <afeijo_BR> the connection is pretty fast, I dont know where is the problem
[14:38] <genii> afeijo_BR: Sounds like some other issue at work if it takes "tens of minutes". Although they could also be huge files
[14:38] <rmrfslash_> Hey all. I filed a bug for this but perhaps someone has come up w/ a workaround or solution: When I have fglrx (ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670) enabled + desktop effects w/ OpenGL compositing, resume from either sleep or hibernate fail. I get a black screen w/ some funky colored lines at the top of the display. The machine appears to be hung and a hard reboot is the only way to recover. If I...
[14:38] <rmrfslash_> ...set the compositing type to XRender, resume works just fine (though XRender cripples the desktop effects to basic transparency and other negligible effects).
[14:39] <afeijo_BR> genii: no, the slow part is to browse my folders
[14:40] <rmrfslash_> I thought maybe to add something to /etc/pm/sleep.d to disable desktop effects and running a kwin --replace but doing so tends to hang kwin.
[14:41] <afeijo_BR> genii: I'm using sshfs to mount
[14:43] <gundam_rx78nt1> can somebody point me to where I can download individual packages from the repositories?
[14:44] <gundam_rx78nt1> main repositories
[14:44] <jarle> I'm running Kubuntu 8.04 (with both KDE3 and KDE4 installed) and trying to upgrade to 9.04 the distribution upgrade fails with "E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." However running "sudo dpkg --configure -a" shows no held packages and I still fail to upgrade. Any hints?
[14:45] <gundam_rx78nt1> never mind. found them.
[14:45] <BluesKaj> !python
[14:45] <White_Pelican> not sure I can be of help but I will try. How are you trying to upgrade?
[14:46] <jarle> White_Pelican: running adetp_update (and following the dist upgrade) like shown here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04
[14:47] <White_Pelican> hmmm
[14:47] <White_Pelican> it should have worked
[14:48] <White_Pelican> admittedly, I haven't upgraded yet
[14:48] <rmrfslash_> anyone?
[14:48] <White_Pelican> I'm still married to kde 3
[14:48] <LinuxApe> Becoming more and more certain that my jaunty upgrade from intrepid was a failure:  can't print anymore, system settings app doesn't have the software manager applet, clicking on links in thunderbird does not open page in firefox, etc.
[14:51] <genii> afeijo_BR: Apologies on lag, work needed me. Geany is a GTK app and this may be causing some slowdown. Other things which come to mind which may be contributing are mount options in use.
[14:51] <afeijo_BR> genii: its ok.  my mountpoint have no options, just the folder and the target
[14:52] <jarle> maybe I should try removing KDE4 from my system before starting the upgrade, but I can't seem to figure out which package to remove
[14:54] <luar_brilhante> my cd driver is broken.... can i install kubuntu to my hard drive via usb?
[14:55] <genii> afeijo_BR: You may want to try for mount options -o sshfs_sync,connect              and see if any improvement
[14:56] <afeijo_BR> I need to unmount first, let me find out how
[14:56] <amgarching> so how do I upgrade to 9.04 from the cmdline? This is a headless machine so I could actually also switch to "ubuntu-server" if I new how.
[14:56] <amgarching> *knew
[14:57] <tzanger> good morning, I can see from the little systray icon that I have 7 updates available
[14:57] <tzanger> but no way to graphically update like the older kubuntu's
[14:57] <tzanger> click/doubleclick des nothing
[14:57] <tzanger> I know I can apt-get update/upgrade from CLI
[14:57] <tzanger> but is this expected operation?
[14:58] <domker> ikonia: i force reload alsa (sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload
[14:58] <rmrfslash_> anyone else having probs w/ vpnc /etc/resolv.conf must be a symlink?
[14:58] <domker> .. and i have sound in flash
[14:58] <amgarching> tzanger: start aptitude, select category with "+", press "g" for "go" (two times)
[14:59] <rmrfslash_> tzanger: try kickoff > Applications > System > Kpackagekit
[14:59] <tzanger> amgarching: ok but again that's CLI; did the GUI update go away?
[14:59] <tzanger> ahh, I don't have kpackagekit installed
[14:59] <rmrfslash_> 9.04?
[15:00] <rmrfslash_> tzanger: 9.04?
[15:00] <tzanger> (this was a ubuntu install I updated to kubuntu
[15:00] <tzanger> yes 9.04 sorry
[15:00] <rmrfslash_> tzanger: command % kpackagekit
[15:00] <rmrfslash_> tzanger: should come w/ kubuntu 9.04
[15:01] <tzanger> rmrfslash_: not installed, let me install that, just a moment
[15:01] <luar_brilhante> hi everyone =) my cd driver is broken.... does anyone know how i can install kubuntu to my hard drive via usb?
[15:01] <rmrfslash_> tzanger: weird
[15:01] <tzanger> as I said the apt-get install kubuntu-desktop seems to have missed it
[15:01] <rmrfslash_> oh
[15:01] <rmrfslash_> yeah... I guess install manually
[15:02] <genii> Interesting, you'd think kpackagekit would be in the metapackage dependencies or so
[15:02] <tzanger> genii: agreed
[15:03] <tzanger> genii, rmrfslash_, amgarching kpackagekit was the culprit.  instaled it, and double-clicking the systray icon pulls up what I expected it to
[15:03] <tzanger> I guess that's a metapackage buglet
[15:03] <genii> tzanger: Might be useful to file a bug for it on launchpad
[15:04] <tzanger> genii: ok
[15:05] <snarkster> anyone know where hotway and hotsmtp went?
[15:05] <snarkster> hotway and hotsmtp arent in the repos anymore.
[15:05] <tzanger> genii: next question if you don't mind... I noticed on gnome's desktop that ssh keys pop up a nice GUI dialog box that I'd never seen on KDE before, and the 9.04 KDE doesn't have it either... is that another package that I just don't have installed?
[15:06] <genii> tzanger: I'm not yet running 9.04 so not too helpful, sorry
[15:06] <snarkster> 9.04 rocks
[15:07] <tzanger> np, I use ssh-agent anyway :-)
[15:07] <snarkster> cept missing hotway, hotsmtp
[15:07] <genii> Hehe
[15:10] <luar_brilhante> hi everyone =) does anyone know how i can install kubuntu to my hard drive via usb? My cd driver is broken....
[15:10] <genii> !info gotmail jaunty
[15:11] <snarkster> oh so hotway is now gone, and use gotmail?? cool thanx
[15:12] <genii> snarkster: Not sure if it's supposed to be some replacement... is also in my 8.04 along with hotway, etc
[15:12] <snarkster> maybe i just need to build it?
[15:12] <luar_brilhante> !info
[15:12] <snarkster> i really liked hotway
[15:12] <genii> snarkster: It just came up in the results when I did: apt-cache search hotmail
[15:12] <luar_brilhante> !info usb_install
[15:12] <luar_brilhante> !info usb-install
[15:12] <luar_brilhante> !info usb install
[15:13] <luar_brilhante> !info usb install intrepid
[15:13] <snarkster> didnt think about searching for hotmail
[15:13] <luar_brilhante> !info usbinstall intrepid
[15:13] <snarkster> luar_brilhante: try pendrive linux.com
[15:13] <Pici> !fishing
[15:13] <genii> luar_brilhante: Maybe check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[15:13] <snarkster> also take a look at usb-creator for 8.10 doesnt work with 9.04
[15:14] <luar_brilhante> genii: thank u! :)
[15:14] <genii> luar_brilhante: You're welcome
[15:14] <tokeefe> genii: you're the first person to ever say "you're welcome" on this channel
[15:15] <snarkster> so gotmail will only download mail not send mail..
[15:15] <snarkster> what a PITA
[15:15] <genii> snarkster: What are you usually using for email, evolution?
[15:16] <snarkster> is it possible to get the intrepid repos in 9.04?
[15:16] <snarkster> yah i am
[15:16] <snarkster> it does all my mail and calendering for me
[15:17] <snarkster> genii what repo is hotway, hotsmtp in?
[15:18] <genii> snarkster: When I check at packages.ubuntu.com   it shows only 8.04 has them. 8.10 has some watch-file relating to hotway but not hotway itself. i suspect those apps may have posed some security issue
[15:20] <eagles0513875> genii: check offtopic there is present for you
[15:20] <justin_> hey...i have a problem with my ati radeonx1200 inegrated card...does anyone know if there is a compatability issue with kubuntu?
[15:20] <giovanni> ciao a tutti
[15:20] <justin_> i downloaded the driver and it keeps giving me an error when i try to install
[15:20] <genii> !it | giovanni
[15:21] <justin_> anyone?
[15:22] <snarkster> hmm ok thnak you
[15:22] <snarkster> i gotta take the kids t school
[15:22] <snarkster> thanks again
[15:23] <genii> snarkster: Maybe check http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2009/03/04/setting-up-evolution-mail-gmail-and-hotmail/
[15:23] <genii> Bah, left
[15:23] <eagles0513875> !patience | justin_
[15:23] <justin_> all i said was anyone
[15:24] <genii> justin_: One moment I'll give you a link for manual ATI driver install
[15:24] <justin_> thank you
[15:24] <genii> justin_: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_restricted_drivers_manually
[15:25] <aljosa> when i type firefox in krunner (kde 4.2.2) i get options to launch firefox2 which is no longer installed. where can i clear krunner cache?
[15:26] <batman> j
[15:27] <rmrfslash__> justin: which driver did u install? fglrx or open source (ati/radeon/radeonhd)?
[15:27] <genii> aljosa: Maybe remove your krunnerrc file. Should be somewhere like ~/.kde/share/config
[15:27] <rmrfslash__> justin_: which driver did u install? fglrx or open source (ati/radeon/radeonhd)?
[15:28] <rmrfslash__> justin_: what version of kubuntu are you on?
[15:28] <justin_> 9.04 64 bit
[15:28] <justin_> igot it from ati's website
[15:29] <aljosa> genii: nothing there, but thanks for trying
[15:30] <tyagiamreesh> logout
[15:30] <rmrfslash__> justin_: u ever try using apt-get?
[15:30] <justin_> not for the driver
[15:31] <rmrfslash__> justin_: e.g. sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[15:31] <justin_> rmrfslash_: thank you
[15:32] <rmrfslash__> justin_: then you may have to run sudo ./aticonfig --initial from within /etc/X11/
[15:32] <justin_> alright
[15:32] <rmrfslash__> justin_: then reboot the ever-lovin' sh*t out of your puter
[15:32] <justin_> ha.alright thank you
[15:33] <TYAGIBOYZ> a
[15:34] <TYAGIBOYZ> #join gsoc
[15:34] <rmrfslash__> justin_: I heard of course that fglrx won't work w/ some older ATI chips. If it doesn't work, drop to root shell (recovery mode) and uninstall it using sudo apt-get remove --purce xorg-driver-fglrx
[15:34] <rmrfslash__> *purge
[15:34] <rmrfslash__> then restore the xorg.conf backup
[15:35] <justin_> alright
[15:39] <noaXess> do i need linux-source or linux-headers if i compile any app that need kernel source?
[15:39] <noaXess> or need i both?
[15:40] <HSNews> Why Kubuntu best over Ubuntu?
[15:40] <jussi01> HSNews: neither is better - just different.
[15:40] <jussi01> !best | HSNews
[15:41] <brano_> pls does anyone of you know how to enable horizontal scrolling with touchpad ? using KDE 4.2.2 kubuntu jaunty
[15:41] <cosmosy> Hey!
[15:42] <cosmosy> So, I got wifi issues http://pastie.org/462548
[15:43] <HSNews> How I can merge Kubuntu + Ubuntu?
[15:43] <jussi01> HSNews: what do you have currently?
[15:43] <cosmosy> Lol.
[15:43] <HSNews> I have empty HDD
[15:43] <HSNews> :)
[15:43] <cosmosy> Nobody knows!
[15:43] <HSNews> It is real to install Ubuntu + Kubuntu? For switching use Switch user?
[15:44] <jussi01> HSNews: install one of them, then install the package kubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-desktop
[15:44] <jussi01> cosmosy: patience is a virtue ;)
[15:44] <cosmosy> Not yet ;)
[15:44] <HSNews> And how to switch between Kubuntu and Ubuntu?
[15:45] <cosmosy> HSNews:  for the love of god, install kubunte first. THEN Gnome
[15:45] <jussi01> HSNews: log out, then choose from the menu on the login screen
[15:45] <lovre> hi all, i have a problem.... after i updated to 9.04, Matlab GUI is not showing, the GUI depends on Java so i guess it has something to do with that? Can i reinstall Java or something? please help
[15:45] <cosmosy> And you can switch in the login manager
[15:45] <HSNews> jussi01: oh... thanks!
[15:45] <jussi01> !java | lovre
[15:45] <lovre> jussi01: ty
[15:46] <jussi01> lovre: yw :)
[15:46] <cosmosy> Apr 29 16:45:47 zx kernel: [14525.625910] ath5k phy0: unsupported jumbo
[15:46] <cosmosy> Keep getting those every 2-3 seconds
[15:46] <cosmosy> I use ubuntu
[15:47] <|PaperTiger|> I'm trying to upgrade from KDE 4.1 to 4.2. I'm following the guide on Ubuntu help, but I can't do one of the steps.
[15:47] <cosmosy> But, guys.. the people #ubuntu couldnt know this
[15:47] <cosmosy> They are too nubied
[15:47] <lovre> jussi01: i get this when trying to install:  0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
[15:52] <Adrian09> Hola'
[15:54] <alistrone> ehi
[15:54] <lovre> ok i figured out that problem has something to do with compiz. When i run compiz, matlab GUI doesnt show up, and when i run Kwin it does show. Does compiz have a problem with Java or what??
[15:56] <Adrian09> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL?
[15:56] <Adrian09> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL?
[15:56] <jussi01> !es
[15:57] <jussi01> lovre: does it work with kwins desktop effects turned on?
[15:57] <lovre> jussi01: yes it does. I  just read online that Compiz has problem with displaying Java windows. I need to install Java 6 Update 1 to fix this issue. How can i do this?
[15:58] <jussi01> lovre: out of curiousity, why are you using compiz?
[15:59] <khindenburg> I use compiz for transparent windows
[15:59] <lovre> jussi01: well, i  can live without it, but it has nice effects.
[15:59] <jussi01> lovre: and you are using jaunty?
[16:00] <jussi01> just that kwin now has most of what compiz does...
[16:00] <lovre> jussi01: yes.
[16:01] <lovre> jussi01: just a quick question, when i turn on desktop effects, but dont run compiz --replace, is that kwin doing all the effects? cuz if thats the case, then really one doesnt even need compiz
[16:01] <lovre> jussi01: except for cube etc, but thats really not neccessary
[16:01] <jussi01> lovre: correct...
[16:01] <jussi01> lovre: kwin has cube...
[16:01] <lovre> jussi01: thats cool :D
[16:01] <lovre> jussi01: oh :o
[16:02] <lovre> jussi01: didnt know that.... anyway.... how do i update java6 to update 1?
[16:02] <jussi01> or it did last time I checked :) Ill look again...
[16:02] <jussi01> lovre: Im not sure on updating java.
[16:02] <jussi01> lovre: yes, my jaunty machine has cube :)
[16:03] <jussi01> lovre: default shortcut is ctrl+f11
[16:03] <lovre> for what?
[16:03] <jussi01> lovre: for activating the cube, if enabled.
[16:04] <lovre> jussi01: how do i update any package? can i do this: sudo apt-get update package-name?
[16:04] <jussi01> lovre: not really
[16:04] <lovre> jussi01: hmm
[16:05] <lovre> sudo apt-get update => does that update all packages or just the repos?
[16:05] <jussi01> !info sun-java6-jre
[16:05] <lovre> !info java-update
[16:05] <jussi01> lovre: just the package list
[16:05] <lovre> jussi01: erm, how would i go about updating a package then
[16:05] <jussi01> then run sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:06] <lovre> i see
[16:06] <kasper> Are someone from Finland?
[16:06] <jussi01> kasper: Minä
[16:06] <kasper> Moi
[16:07] <BluesKaj> LinuxApe, links in thunderbird was broken for my setup for a long time in Hardy , then intrepid it somehow fixed itself , but I was so fed up by then that I switched to Kmail
[16:07] <lovre> jussi01: thank you for your help, im done with this, using kwin :)))
[16:07] <luis_> hi there
[16:07] <BluesKaj> !fi | kasper
[16:07] <jussi01> kasper: only english in here though, you are welcome to join us in #kubuntu-fi
[16:07] <kasper> ok
[16:08] <jussi01> lovre: yw :)
[16:08] <BluesKaj> jussi01, I thought you din't speak Finnish ? :)
[16:09] <jussi01> BluesKaj: only some :)
[16:09] <LinuxApe> BluesKaj: I've checked the thunderbird about:config dialog, and the settings for firefox are in there, it just doesn't work. How do you like kmail?
[16:09] <luis_> good day i like to ask for ur help i have an epson stylus cx5600 the printer function works fine but the scaner function so i am trying to get it to work following this tutorial: http://ubuntu-ar.org/tutoriales/scannercx5600 but when i reach the cd iscan... appears on terminal: basch cd iscan... no such file or directory
[16:10] <luis_> can somebody help me pls
[16:11] <madrazr> Hello everyone, I installed, Ubuntu 9.04 and then install kubuntu-desktop upon it, also installed amarok 2
[16:12] <madrazr> I was not able to add songs to playlist, I tried installing amarok 2.1 beta from PPA, but I still had the same problem, after trying to scan the collection
[16:12] <madrazr> I am now able to add the songs, but when I play it, the songs get over in matter of seconds
[16:12] <madrazr> can some one help me please?
[16:12] <Kovert> where is the exact location of .xprofile?
[16:12] <madrazr> Kovert: .xprofile?
[16:13] <madrazr> Kovert: asking me?
[16:13] <Kovert> no question for all
[16:13] <madrazr> ah Ok
[16:13] <madrazr> :)
[16:13] <Kovert> !.xprofile
[16:14] <kaddi> !xorg
[16:14] <luis_>  i have an epson stylus cx5600 the printer function works fine but the scaner function so i am trying to get it to work following this tutorial: http://ubuntu-ar.org/tutoriales/scannercx5600 but when i reach the cd iscan... appears on terminal: basch cd iscan... no such file or directory
[16:15] <jussi01> madrazr: you could try asking in #amarok if no one here answers
[16:15] <gardien> i look for a mac os emulator on ubuntu
[16:15] <madrazr> jussi01: ok cool!
[16:15] <Kovert> kaddi thats why i asked my question
[16:15] <genii> Kovert: There is no .xprofile in Ubuntu. Instead use .xsession or ..xinitrc
[16:15] <kaddi> what question kovert?
[16:15] <Kovert> where the .xprofile is located
[16:16] <nameiner> madrazr: you are probably missing support for mp3 playback if the songs don
[16:16] <gardien> where can i find mac os emulator on ubuntu
[16:16] <genii> Kovert: To repeat: there is no .xprofile
[16:16] <nameiner> if the songs don't play
[16:16] <madrazr> nameiner: I can play in all other players on my system
[16:16] <madrazr> nameiner: totem, banshee, exaile ...
[16:16] <Kovert> got it so then where is the xintrc
[16:16] <genii> Kovert: It's in your home directory
[16:17] <jussi01> madrazr: only time I have that is when I forget to mount the fdrive my songs are on...
[16:17] <kaddi> Kovert: I was looking for some info on xorg myself, it wasn't intended as an answer to your question. I don't even know what xprofile does ;)
[16:17] <madrazr> jussi01: the partitions are mounted
[16:17] <nameiner> madrazr: I don't know, if amarok needs a special package
[16:17] <madrazr> nameiner: it doesn't I think, it was working perfectly in 8.10
[16:17] <jussi01> madrazr: you are certain? :D
[16:17] <om__> how do i save a screenshot in kde? clicking print screen doesn't work
[16:18] <madrazr> jussi01: definitely
[16:18] <nameiner> madrazr: but I can try, since I didn't use amarok on my freshly installed system yet, if you have the time to let me check it out
[16:18] <jussi01> om kmenu, graphics - ksnapshot
[16:18] <kaddi> speaking of which: my problem is, that ever since I upgraded to jaunty xorg needs betwenn 50 and 100% of my CPU. Is this a known problem? is there something a patch or something? or at least some way of finding out what the problem is?
[16:18] <om__> thanks jussi! brb gotta show you some weird bug..
[16:19] <madrazr> nameiner: sure, I will be around
[16:19] <madrazr> try and tell me please
[16:21] <luis_> i like to ask a friendly and patience help pls this is my problem:   i have an epson stylus cx5600 the printer function works fine but the scaner function so i am trying to get it to work following this tutorial: http://ubuntu-ar.org/tutoriales/scannercx5600 but when i reach the cd iscan... appears on terminal: basch cd iscan... no such file or directory
[16:21] <om__> for some reason when i start KDE, the font size is HUGE
[16:22] <om__> it's like size 70 font.. i can't read anything
[16:23] <luis_> om maybe u need to change ur screen resolution as an administrator
[16:23] <om__> http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqzTUGS
[16:26] <kasper> How can make own channel?
[16:26] <nameiner> madrazr: right when I started it it recommends installing additional packages for multimedia functionalities e.g. MP3encoding
[16:26] <om__> when i go to system -> screen resize, nothing happens...
[16:26] <nameiner> madrazr: let me see what it actually wants to install
[16:26] <kasper> How can make own channel??
[16:27] <luis_> om i might be wrong but i thing u need to change ur screen resolution as an administrator or can also try on the browser: edit, preferences, contentes, fonts and colors
[16:27] <genii> kasper:  /join ##channel-name-you-want-to-make
[16:28] <luis_> pls help  i like to ask a friendly and patience help pls this is my problem:   i have an epson stylus cx5600 the printer function works fine but the scaner function so i am trying to get it to work following this tutorial: http://ubuntu-ar.org/tutoriales/scannercx5600 but when i reach the cd iscan... appears on terminal: basch cd iscan... no such file or directory
[16:28] <nameiner> madrazr: libmp3lame0, libtunepimp5-mp3, libdvdread4, libavcodec-unstripped-52 and libxine1-ffmpeg
[16:28] <om__> luis_: it's not just the browser.. it's everything.. how do i change the resolution as an administer? it doesn't ask me for a pw when i click on screen resolution...
[16:28] <madrazr> nameiner: let me see if these are installed
[16:28] <om__> i don't even think it's the resolution.. it's just the font
[16:28] <jussi01> om__: try system settings - appearance - force fonts dpi: 96
[16:28] <nameiner> madrazr: I think the mp3 playback is in the libxine1-ffmpeg
[16:29] <pookito> hello world
[16:30] <pookito> hi
[16:30] <luis_> om u have a screen resolution issue
[16:30] <madrazr> nameiner: awesome cool!
[16:30] <madrazr> nameiner: thanks a lot
[16:30] <madrazr> it worked after installing those packages
[16:30] <nameiner> madrazr: yw
[16:30] <pookito> do we have any problems with the knetworkmanager
[16:30] <pookito> ?
[16:30] <jussi01> om__: not sure if you need to restart x after that though
[16:31] <luis_> go to menu then system setting and from there click on display
[16:31] <jussi01> pookito: in which release?
[16:31] <jussi01> luis_: I dont htink its a resolution issue
[16:31] <pookito> 9.4
[16:31] <jussi01> pookito: so you mean issues with the plasmoid?
[16:31] <pookito> not, with the wireless software
[16:32] <pookito> knetworkmanager that is
[16:32] <luis_> ok jussie pls help hiim i am not sure what the problem would be so i might be missleading him
[16:32] <bendik> is there any downloadable games for kubuntu? :)
[16:32] <bendik> like shooting games or racing games?
[16:32] <jussi01> pookito: the default network manager in jaunty is the network manager plasmoid...
[16:32] <luis_> aa lot
[16:32] <luis_> u can try the emulators
[16:32] <om__> i guess i'll try to restart, brb
[16:32] <jussi01> !games | bendik
[16:32] <luis_> and get the romss from some web
[16:33] <bendik> the emulators?
[16:33] <bendik> KUBUNTU EMULATORS?
[16:33] <jussi01> bendik: tremulous, nexuiz, alien arena just to name a dfew
[16:33] <pookito> well, I do not know if it is the plasmoid or the wireless
[16:33] <luis_> kubuntu has emulators to play ninterndo or play station games
[16:33] <pookito> I have been using ubuntu, but I really want to switch back to kde
[16:33] <luis_> they are on the repositories
[16:33] <jussi01> bendik: please look at the link I just gave you :)
[16:34] <kasper> I am finding friends for game
[16:35] <jussi01> kasper: please dont ask here - you can chat in #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:35] <jussi01> robotti: ^
[16:35] <robotti> ok
[16:35] <luis_> so any 1 that can guide me and help me out with my problem pls??
[16:35] <bendik> THANKS ;)
[16:35] <jussi01> luis_: have you looked on linuxprinting.org
[16:35] <jussi01> ?
[16:35] <luis_> yes
[16:36] <luis_> my probllem is the sacn function
[16:36] <luis_> not the printing funtoin
[16:36] <luis_> thats why i am giving the tutorial iam following
[16:36] <luis_> but theres a part where it doesnt continue with the process
[16:37] <pookito> so, is it a problem with plasmoid?
[16:37] <jussi01> pookito: you havent told us the symptoms yet...
[16:37] <pookito> it just do not work.
[16:38] <pookito> It does not connect to the wireless
[16:39] <|PaperTiger|> What is a good program to use for formatting a HDD?
[16:39] <jussi01> pookito: and what kind of wireless do you have? does it begin connecting? is the wireless detected?
[16:39] <jussi01> !info gparted | |PaperTiger|
[16:39] <|PaperTiger|> jussi01, works on KDE? Stupid question :)
[16:40] <pookito> it does detect wireless service, but when I try to connect it refuses to.
[16:40] <luis_> the problem is that still is not included on the list
[16:40] <luis_> but there are some work around to mke it work
[16:40] <luis_> printing and scanng functions
[16:41] <jussi01> pookito: have you tried setting it up - ie. right click the plasmoid, manage connections?
[16:41] <luis_> actually printing function is done kubuntu does install it with no problem but the scanniing funtion is the problem
[16:41] <jussi01> |PaperTiger|: of course it does :) just pulls in a few gnome libs.
[16:42] <|PaperTiger|> jussi01, ah. okay. makes sense. Cheers.
[16:42] <pookito> I right click then go to the wireless that it finds, then I save the wireless settings and then connected.  at first it does make an attempt to do so but then it does not connect.  :(
[16:42] <luis_> theres this ubuntu guide that give step by step the instructions but when i rech the cd iscan... part stops everything cause some bash directory not found problem http://ubuntu-ar.org/tutoriales/scannercx5600
[16:43] <Kovert> gini where is xintrc I cant find it in my home
[16:43] <|PaperTiger|> jussi01, know a program I can use to do a total system backup? Like an image to another HDD?
[16:43] <rufong> gparted is da bomb. but say i was paranoid, is there something that shreds ur hddrive an is proven anti-law recovery? kekeke
[16:43] <jussi01> !backup | |PaperTiger|
[16:43] <|PaperTiger|> jussi01 :) thanks
[16:43] <jussi01> :)
[16:43] <jussi01>  |PaperTiger| YW
[16:44] <rufong> pardon my manners pls. 'ello everyone
[16:52] <SpeS> hi
[16:52] <luis_> ok letme refresh my question
[16:53] <luis_> after untaring the iscan_2.10.0-1 nedd according to the gui to get into the directory and compile it
[16:53] <SpeS> any known problem with nvidia 8600GT and OpenGL??
[16:53] <luis_> thats where the problem start cause for that u nee cd coomand
[16:53] <luis_> but it keeps saying bash: no such file or directory
[16:53] <luis_> the rest is fine
[16:53] <SpeS> I can have desktop effects with XRender (too slow), but it fails to draw with OpenGL...
[16:54] <luis_> everything goes smooth till trying to get into the directory
[16:55] <luis_> whhy is this happening
[16:55] <luis_> do i need to install some thing else before ??
[16:55] <mythos> ciao atutti
[16:56] <Pici> !it | mythos
[16:59] <Byron> !netbook
[16:59] <Byron> !remix
[16:59] <genii> luis_: Likely whats called the "shebang" in the file you are trying to run specifies a path for finding bash that does not exist on your Ubuntu box, but would exist on a Redhat or somesuch box
[16:59] <Byron> Does anyone know how I can get the repos for the netbook remix?
[17:00] <luis_> ok so in more comprehensive lenguage what do i need to do genii????
[17:02] <genii> luis_: What is the command you are currently putting in which is failing?
[17:02] <luis_> cd iscan_2.10.0-1
[17:02] <afeijo_BR> what player to dvd disks should I use?
[17:03] <luis_> it alwas give me back
[17:03] <luis_> bash: cd: iscan_2.10.0-1: No such file or directory
[17:05] <afeijo_BR> what dvd player do you guys use?
[17:05] <p_quarles> luis_: are you entering the entire line in the tutorial beginning with "cd iscan*"?
[17:05] <B1TF1ND3R-0101> i got ubuntu just installed ...  =D wow    so many things to learn   >.<
[17:06] <luis_> yes
[17:06] <luis_> just like the gui says
[17:06] <Guest67919> hi, i'm having some trouble with skype in jaunty
[17:06] <p_quarles> luis_: the "<" are meant to be line breaks; that isn't immediately apparent in the tutorial, but all those commands are supposed to be entered separately
[17:07] <luis_> yes i know
[17:07] <p_quarles> luis_: you're getting an error because "cd" is not an application, but a Bash built-in, and the command chaining is causing it not to be found
[17:07] <luis_> thats what i am doing
[17:07] <jbeard> i'm not really familiar with phonon, and iw as owondering if someone could help me troubleshoot it
[17:07] <p_quarles> luis_: ooookay; try this: cd ~
[17:08] <luis_> with the iscan... right??
[17:08] <p_quarles> luis_: no, just that command, by itself
[17:08] <luis_> nothing happen
[17:08] <p_quarles> luis_: we're testing; so now run "pwd" and give us the output
[17:08] <rufong> b1tf1nd3r: welcome to the party m8
[17:09] <luis_> sorry here is what i got with pwd: /home/luis
[17:10] <p_quarles> luis_: okay, cd is working fine, so you're doing someething incorrectly when trying to cd into the iscan_* directory; where is that directory located?
[17:10] <luis_> i also did this and heres the resul
[17:10]  * genii hands p_quarles more coffee
[17:10] <luis_> let me give u what i got
[17:10] <p_quarles> genii: heh, just had two cups :)
[17:10] <luis_> luis@Mario-Luis:~$ ls
[17:10] <luis_> Desktop       iscan_2.10.0-1.tar.gz    Music     Templates
[17:10] <luis_> Documents     iscan_2.10.0-1.tar.gz.1  Pictures  Videos
[17:10] <luis_> iscan-2.10.0  iscan_2.10.0-1.tar.gz.2  Public
[17:10] <p_quarles> !paste | luis
[17:11] <jbeard> if anyone thinks they can help me with my skype issue, just PM me, I'd appreciate it
[17:11] <p_quarles> luis_: okay, do: cd iscan-2.10.0
[17:11] <luis_> ja
[17:11] <luis_> that worked
[17:12] <p_quarles> luis_: you were trying to enter a directory that didn't exist; notice that it's called something different in your /home directory than in the tutorial
[17:12] <luis_> ooo
[17:12] <luis_> i c
[17:12] <luis_> txs a lot p_quarles
[17:13] <yamishi> hi