[00:00] <crimsun> darwin: yes.
[00:06] <jill> how can i install nvidia drivers for my wine, i want to play any games
[00:07] <jill> and if i dont have wine-dev... it is bad&
[00:07] <jill> ?
[00:09] <sebastian> how do i install kde without all the programs? i want the minimal package
[00:09] <darwin> crimsun: I uninstalled the repository flash, and installed the flash 10 rpm through alien, now what do i do to make it work in firefox?
[00:18] <Tonren> Can someone help me set up filesharing with Windows? When I click on "Configure Sharing", it says "Kdesudo: Command not found!"  sudo: kcmshell4: command not found
[00:20] <ImperialJester> How are you getting there?
[00:20] <ImperialJester> Right click -> Properties -> Share -> Configure File Sharing
[00:23] <Tonren> Yeah.
[00:32] <toxic_> hi
[00:32] <toxic_> and i'm back again ;)
[00:32] <toxic_> im on my notebook samsung x20 here which has a resolution about 16xx*1xxx, but i can't change the resoltion to this
[00:32] <toxic_> why?
[00:34] <toxic_> damnit im always too late  :D everyone is asleep :D
[00:36] <mitsarionas> are you using fglrx by any chance?
[00:36] <mitsarionas> (ati)
[00:36] <toxic_> i dont have any ati card
[00:36] <toxic_> it the intel one
[00:37] <mitsarionas> no clue... there was just some fglrx bug regarding 1680x1050 resolution at some point...that's why i asked
[00:38] <toxic_> what is fglrx?
[00:38] <mitsarionas> ati's proprietary driver
[00:40] <toxic_> ah ok
[00:40] <toxic_> im sorry its 1400*1050 of resolution
[00:40] <toxic_> how can i change the selection possibilities in my kubuntu system preferences?
[00:43] <mitsarionas> i had a problem with edid once on an nvidia card (didn't recognize the resolutions supported by the monitor) ... i used modelines on my xorg.conf...
[00:43] <toxic_> yes but the resolution 1400*1050 is in my xorg.conf file
[00:43] <toxic_> but i cant select it
[00:44] <mitsarionas> there's only lower resolutions on system settings?
[00:45] <toxic_> there is only 640*480 through 800*600 to 1280*1024
[00:45] <toxic_> and 1024*786 of course
[00:46] <mitsarionas> maybe if you changed your monitor on the hardware tab...just a guess
[00:48] <toxic_> how can i change monitor on the hardware tab? :D
[00:48] <toxic_> there are 4 tabs
[00:48] <toxic_> the 3rd is called "hardware"
[00:48] <mitsarionas> yeah, that one
[00:48] <toxic_> if i click there, there are 3 things
[00:48] <toxic_> Grafikkarte: i810
[00:49] <toxic_> Monitor #1 1400*1050
[00:49] <toxic_> Monitor #2 Flat panel 1400*1050
[00:49] <toxic_> but i dont know how to "select" one
[00:49] <toxic_> i jsut can say which is primary or secondary
[00:50] <richard> hi - im trying to upgrade from gutsy to hardy, but the upgrade tool crashed on the second stage. how can i force it to run again?
[00:50] <mitsarionas> :( no clue... but as it says both are 1400x1050 maybe that's not the problem
[00:51] <mitsarionas> check out the phoronix forums...maybe you'll find something there
[00:51] <toxic_> mitsarionas: i changed the monitor
[00:51] <toxic_> now i got lots more resolsutions
[00:51] <toxic_> but not 1400*1050 ;)
[00:51] <toxic_> whats a phoronix forum? ;)
[00:51] <mitsarionas> lol :S
[00:51] <mitsarionas> a site... www.phoronix.com
[00:51] <mitsarionas> linux hardware stuff
[00:52] <mitsarionas> it's got quite good graphic cards forums
[01:13] <sourcemaker> how can I check my current ubuntu release?
[01:13] <sourcemaker> => determine the current version installed
[01:13] <Jucato> !version | sourcemaker
[01:14] <sourcemaker> ubottu: cool thanks
[01:15] <sourcemaker> Jucato: thanks
[01:37] <T3Roar> hey guys
[01:38] <T3Roar> can anyone here advise me on using gparted?
[01:38] <dsmith_> sure
[01:38] <dsmith_> its easy
[01:39] <T3Roar> i'm just about to delete a partition with XP on it
[01:39] <T3Roar> and install kubuntu in its place
[01:39] <T3Roar> its a 50gb partition
[01:39] <dsmith_> format to ext3
[01:39] <T3Roar> but i installed it before anything else
[01:39] <dsmith_> stop
[01:39] <T3Roar> is it okay to delete the first installed partition?
[01:39] <dsmith_> what did you do?
[01:40] <T3Roar> at the moment, nothing. i've got a 50gb xp partition, 50gb vista and 380gb as a personal file partition
[01:40] <dsmith_> hmmm
[01:40] <T3Roar> i want to delete the xp partition and use that space for kubuntu
[01:40] <T3Roar> but its the first partition i've installed on this hard drive
[01:40] <dsmith_> take a live cd and install kubuntu
[01:41] <dsmith_> grub will become your boot manager
[01:42] <minhaaj> hi my internet won't work in ubuntu. it works in windows only. modem is set to bridge
[01:42] <minhaaj> any help ?
[01:42] <dsmith_> minhaaj: ubuntu or kubuntu??
[01:42] <T3Roar> minhaaj, is it a usb modem?
[01:42] <minhaaj> nope its a modem
[01:42] <minhaaj> Shiro
[01:43] <dsmith_> no is it an external or internal modem
[01:43] <minhaaj> external
[01:43] <minhaaj> its dsl
[01:43] <minhaaj> i need to set up bridge dial up for linux
[01:43] <minhaaj> i have no idea how to do that i tried pppoeconf
[01:43] <minhaaj> but it doesnt help
[01:43] <dsmith_> dial up on dsl?
[01:43] <minhaaj> maybe because thats not whati want.
[01:44] <BluesKaj> why dialup ?
[01:44] <minhaaj> yea for authentication
[01:44] <minhaaj> dunno my lousy ISP is having some problem with my port. it seems to be hung up. so they asked me to use bridge
[01:44] <minhaaj> and now i can't get it to work in linux
[01:44] <Pxrbo1> hi, im having a problem with the sound and graphics at the moment. im playing a video in youtube, but the video quality is less than what it should be, and the sound is very jittery
[01:45] <minhaaj> for sound check out alsa px
[01:45] <minhaaj> !alsa
[01:45] <dsmith_> weird that a dsl provider wants to use dialup for authentication
[01:45] <minhaaj> yea i hate them
[01:45] <minhaaj> i have 1 mbps and i never get a speed more than 50 kpps
[01:45] <minhaaj> where i should get 100 kbps atleast!
[01:46] <T3Roar> that's probably noise on the line
[01:46] <minhaaj> and they dont have static ip to offer too. losers.
[01:46] <T3Roar> i have 16mb but only get 5mb effectively cos i need to use a line extension
[01:46] <minhaaj> it can't reduce you speed to half
[01:46] <minhaaj> you must be in europe.
[01:46] <T3Roar> yeah
[01:46] <minhaaj> i can only imagine 20 mbps :D
[01:46] <Pxrbo1> thanks minhaaj, il give it a looksee :)
[01:46] <minhaaj> np
[01:47] <dsmith_> i have biz comcast and its fast
[01:47] <minhaaj> best we have here is 2 mbps for residential
[01:47] <minhaaj> and i can't afford it
[01:47] <T3Roar> ah right
[01:48] <T3Roar> after 1mb, the only difference you see is in big file downloads really
[01:48] <minhaaj> i hate to use windows, and i am waiting for someone in tech support to help me get a dial up in linux
[01:48] <BluesKaj> minhaaj, but you guys in asia are catching up quickly
[01:48] <T3Roar> general internet is the same
[01:48] <minhaaj> well yea its pretty good for most things, except for torrents and movies
[01:48] <minhaaj> heh
[01:48] <minhaaj> BluesKaj:  we have better speeds and quality than europe actually
[01:48] <minhaaj> but in some parts, e.g korea
[01:48] <minhaaj> Korea is the internet leader of the world :)
[01:48] <BluesKaj> yup
[01:48] <dsmith_> what re korea's speed?
[01:48] <minhaaj> its the technology's birthplace
[01:49] <minhaaj> its over 20 mbps
[01:49] <dsmith_> wow
[01:49] <minhaaj> and most people in europe and america still use 10 mbps fios
[01:49] <BluesKaj> uhmm, that's debateable , minhaaj
[01:49] <T3Roar> 20mbps? real MB or Mb?
[01:49] <minhaaj> perhaps BluesKaj, i have evidence otherwise
[01:49] <minhaaj> Mb
[01:49] <dsmith_> bps
[01:49] <T3Roar> cos here in London, 24Mb is available and has been for about a year
[01:50] <minhaaj> what percentage uses it T3Roar  ?
[01:50] <minhaaj> in korea its normal
[01:50] <BluesKaj> the technology's birthplace thought is debateable, minhaaj
[01:50] <minhaaj> i have a friend and he is using RONJA optical wireless and he whines about companies in UK don't offer more than 10 mpbs in ordinary circumstances
[01:50] <T3Roar> well a small company has been the only one with it for a while but now a big company has been touting it quite a lot so about 10% of uk have it now
[01:50] <minhaaj> BluesKaj:  dude you really need to know about cams, electronics and high-tech stuff then
[01:50] <T3Roar> it's available to 98% of us though
[01:51] <minhaaj> every technology comes from there
[01:51] <minhaaj> half the cost and cutting edge
[01:51] <minhaaj> its just they dont have as much resources to market it as europeans have. thanks to their years of plundering third world.
[01:51] <minhaaj> heh
[01:51] <minhaaj> T3Roar:  thats debatable.
[01:51] <T3Roar> what is?
[01:51] <T3Roar> availability?
[01:52] <dsmith_> why does kubuntu still come with kmail? Does anyone even use it?
[01:52] <minhaaj> 98% ppl in UK don't use 24 mbps i know it for a fact
[01:52] <T3Roar> i didnt say use it
[01:52] <T3Roar> i said 10% use it
[01:52] <minhaaj> hehe nope dsmith_
[01:52] <minhaaj> good point
[01:52] <BluesKaj> minhaaj, I think you may be misunderstanding the word "birthplace" :)
[01:52] <T3Roar> but its available to 98%
[01:52] <minhaaj> i believe its not
[01:52] <minhaaj> but i wouldnt know. i dont have first hand experience. never been there.
[01:53] <BluesKaj> the offtopic cops are gonna chastise us soon
[01:53] <minhaaj> heh
[01:53] <T3Roar> does anyone know whether i will run into trouble trying to delete the hda0 partition using gParted livecd at startup?
[01:53] <minhaaj> btw how can turn of PPPoEconf ?
[01:53] <minhaaj> once i get the connection back to PPPoE instead of bridge ?
[01:53] <dsmith_> T3Roar: why dont you just install kubuntu from its live CD
[01:53] <minhaaj> you should T3Roar
[01:54] <minhaaj> its pirmary hard disk
[01:54] <T3Roar> because i dont have an empty partition yet
[01:54] <T3Roar> i have XP and Vista on separate partitions
[01:54] <dsmith_> your hard drive is full??
[01:54] <T3Roar> i want to replace vista with Kubuntu
[01:54] <T3Roar> excuse me, i meant XP
[01:55] <T3Roar> its not full but i dont want xp any more so i want to delete that partition
[01:55] <dsmith_> do this... install kubuntu from the live cd and create a partition from our free space
[01:55] <dsmith_> THEN remove xp
[01:55] <T3Roar> what's the difference?
[01:55] <dsmith_> kubuntu will find you free space
[01:55] <BluesKaj> T3Roar, hmm keeping vista and dumping XP ...you're adventurous aren't you :)
[01:56] <dsmith_> your making it hard on yourself
[01:56] <dsmith_> hehe, I was just thinking that BluesKaj
[01:56] <T3Roar> BluesKaj, yeah, i put both just in case
[01:56] <T3Roar> and now i've used Vista for 2 months
[01:56] <dsmith_> I would dump vista and keep XP
[01:56] <T3Roar> i haven't found a single reason to use XP
[01:56] <T3Roar> so far
[01:56] <BluesKaj> why not just sqeeze the vista partition to make room for kubuntu
[01:56] <T3Roar> Vista x64 is great for me
[01:56] <T3Roar> well i have plenty of space
[01:57] <BluesKaj> squeeze
[01:57] <T3Roar> 50gb for Vista, 50gb for XP, 380gb for my personal files partition
[01:57] <dsmith_> use some of the 380GB
[01:57] <T3Roar> i could squeeze off my personal files one (only filled up about 80gb so far) but i dont want to have 3 systems and only use 2
[01:57] <dsmith_> for an ext3 partiton
[01:57] <dsmith_> then install kubuntu on that partition
[01:58] <dsmith_> then delete the xp partition
[01:58] <T3Roar> lol but i really dont see the problem with deleting the xp partition now, then using that space for kubuntu
[01:58] <dsmith_> and merge it with something else
[01:58] <dsmith_> well delete xp partiton and install kubuntu
[01:58] <dsmith_> our mbr may have issues
[01:58] <dsmith_> Your
[01:59] <T3Roar> oh i see
[01:59] <T3Roar> okay i will take your advice
[01:59] <T3Roar> thanks guys
[01:59] <dsmith_> very wise
[01:59] <dsmith_> :P
[01:59] <T3Roar> i may be back if i have problems
[01:59] <T3Roar> hehe
[01:59] <T3Roar> bye
[02:01] <LiNuxBaBe> i'm running kubuntu 8.04,, installed ndiswrapper,, but if I try to connect with wifi-radar he won't get an ip-adress.. Dmesg output says ndiswrapper:: key 1 not set
[02:02] <dsmith_> try using knetworkmanager
[02:02] <LiNuxBaBe> I tried
[02:02] <LiNuxBaBe> won't get an ip
[02:02] <dsmith_> dhcp?
[02:02] <minhaaj> any of you guys have backed up your ubuntu ?
[02:03] <minhaaj> i have tried a dozen options and nothing works
[02:03] <dsmith_> yes
[02:03] <dsmith_> sbackup
[02:03] <minhaaj> copying and pasting home directory gives you alot of bugs
[02:03] <dsmith_> flyback is coming nicely
[02:03] <minhaaj> doesnt work dsmith_
[02:03] <dsmith_> I use a sep. home partiton
[02:03] <dsmith_> sbackup dont work?
[02:03] <minhaaj> nope
[02:03] <dsmith_> works for us here
[02:03] <minhaaj> how do you create sep. home partition ?
[02:03] <dsmith_> when you install kubuntu
[02:04] <minhaaj> lol i'd love to
[02:04] <minhaaj> i use wubi
[02:04] <minhaaj> no install :)
[02:04] <dsmith_> migrate your wubi
[02:04] <dsmith_> wubi has minor issues, but overall it works
[02:04] <minhaaj> to ?
[02:05] <dsmith_> to a new ext3 partiton
[02:05] <minhaaj> i have to keep windows for some reasons
[02:05] <LiNuxBaBe> dsmith_ no only eth0
[02:05] <minhaaj> how so ?
[02:05] <dsmith_> minhaaj: Google is your friend
[02:05] <minhaaj> hehe trust me that friend has deceived me 20 times on back up issue
[02:05] <minhaaj> i need a living friend now heh
[02:05] <dsmith_> LiNuxBaBe: your router has dhcp turned on?
[02:06] <minhaaj> i was thinking about seeking help from a professional
[02:06] <LiNuxBaBe> yes
[02:06] <dsmith_> hmmmm
[02:06] <minhaaj> i have lost ubuntu like 5 times after configuring it exactly the way i like it
[02:06] <dsmith_> lost??
[02:06] <dsmith_> how so
[02:06] <LiNuxBaBe> i'll check it to be sure dsmith_
[02:06] <Betus> me too
[02:06] <dsmith_> your using wubi?
[02:07] <minhaaj> yes
[02:07] <minhaaj> i try things alot
[02:07] <minhaaj> configurations
[02:07] <dsmith_> thats the problem
[02:07] <minhaaj> and it crashes
[02:07] <dsmith_> create a new partition
[02:07] <dsmith_> and format it to ext3
[02:07] <dsmith_> and install kubuntu
[02:07] <minhaaj> ok then ?
[02:07] <minhaaj> hmm
[02:08] <dsmith_> gparted Live CD
[02:08] <dsmith_> Kubuntu live cd
[02:08] <minhaaj> i actually tried remastersys today
[02:08] <minhaaj> and that crashed my ubuntu
[02:08] <minhaaj> won't log me in
[02:08] <dsmith_> why?
[02:08] <minhaaj> no idea. i was trying to back up my user settings
[02:08] <dsmith_> wubi is not for permanent use
[02:08] <minhaaj> before that i tried home user back up . sbackup, mondo
[02:09] <minhaaj> what is that supposed to mean ?
[02:09] <dsmith_> sbackup works but your using wubi
[02:09] <minhaaj> well does installing ubuntu on ext3 creates a dual boot ?
[02:10] <dsmith_> yes
[02:10] <dsmith_> do this
[02:10] <dsmith_> take your whole computer
[02:10] <dsmith_> and partiton your main drive in 1/2
[02:10] <dsmith_> xp on one half
[02:10] <dsmith_> linux on the other half
[02:10] <dsmith_> you do this by using gparted liveCD
[02:11] <dsmith_> however, make sure your XP is defragged
[02:12] <dsmith_> then you can install kubuntu on the other partiton
[02:13] <R2LM> Are there any specific Kubuntu repositories? I'm just wondering because I noticed my /etc/apt/sources.list just has Ubuntu-Hardy repositories in it.
[02:14] <minhaaj> what is gparted live cd ?
[02:14] <minhaaj> i dont know about it
[02:14] <LiNuxBaBe> dsmith_ dhcp works
[02:14] <dsmith_> LiNuxBaBe: hmmmmmm
[02:15] <dsmith_> are you sure your windows wireless drivers were installed correctly?
[02:15] <LiNuxBaBe> I guess
[02:15] <dsmith_> what wireless card?
[02:15] <dsmith_> R2
[02:16] <LiNuxBaBe> Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[02:16] <dsmith_> R2LM: you have a few others, are you using adept manager?
[02:16] <dsmith_> atheros should work out of box..
[02:16] <dsmith_> what distro are you using?
[02:16] <LiNuxBaBe> kubuntu 8.04
[02:17] <R2LM> dsmith: Actually I've been using Synaptic, but does that make a difference in what repos are in my sources.list?
[02:17] <dsmith_> http://www.atheros.com/news/linux.html
[02:17] <dsmith_> R2LM: are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:18] <R2LM> dsmith: I'm using Ubuntu with KDE desktop added on top of it. :)
[02:18] <ZaNGaMaN> hello anyone online?
[02:18] <BluesKaj> no
[02:18] <dsmith_> ahhh you can use both then
[02:18] <dsmith_> I prefer adept
[02:18] <dsmith_> haha
[02:18] <LiNuxBaBe> I tried to install madwifi
[02:18] <dsmith_> sometimes konsole, even
[02:18] <LiNuxBaBe> but it won't work
[02:18] <ZaNGaMaN> i need to know how to activate my wireless cand anyone help me with this i ust passed from vista to kubuntu
[02:19] <ZaNGaMaN> ?
[02:19] <R2LM> LiNuxBaBe: You should check out the ubuntuforums.org--I saw some posts saying that AR242x for Atheros means your hardware was not detected correctly--your chipset is a little different.
[02:19] <ZaNGaMaN> so no one help me with my problem?
[02:20] <R2LM> dsmith: So what are the Kubuntu repositories that I should add?
[02:20] <dsmith_> ZaNGaMaN: lspci, what card you using?
[02:20] <dsmith_> R2LM: updates
[02:20] <dsmith_> whatever ones you want
[02:20] <LiNuxBaBe> indeed R2LM I know,, On kubuntu 7.10 it worked fine,, but after the upgrade it was screwed up
[02:20] <dsmith_> universe, multiverse, etc..
[02:20] <dsmith_> hmmmmm
[02:20] <ZaNGaMaN>  pion în data de 04.07. la ora 09:39   Citat Prelucrare Şterge
[02:21] <ZaNGaMaN> ramin la parerea mea cu sopra.sa vedeti poveste-a lui: zaneti a desfintat tribul-nu ma fost online,in acest timp sopra a sarit repede pe mine...am purtat niste discuti cu el dar ma privit de sus...am intrat in SWAT...si a inceput razboilu cu GRL.lam atacat pe hagi...(care inainte da a fi in vreun trib,ma spionat dar a plecat cu,coada intre picioare)am rupt trupe pe satul lui(mentionez ca nu avea pe nimeni la protejati,sub protectia cuiva),surpriza...apare
[02:21] <dsmith_> ZaNGaMaN: english
[02:21] <ZaNGaMaN> sopra in scena si il trece pe hagi sub protectia lui.se baga si ia satul lui hagi.vb cu sopra i trimit rapoartele sa vada...raspunsul lui-stai calm ca se rezolva.trimit rapoartele si la diplomati ambelor triburi-SWAT respectiv NMS(sa fiu corect)raspuns de la DIPLOMATUL SWAT-sa vedem ce putem face...nu sa facut nimic.apare si tudoranmitza(pe vremea aceia in tribul SWAT)IA SATUL EL DE LA HAGI...MAI TIRZIU SOPRA IL AJUTA PE HAGI care-si recucereste satul.HAGI
[02:21] <ZaNGaMaN> LA PROFIL SE PARE CA LA STERS PE SOPRA...gainari. la scurt timp se desfinteaza tribul SWAT...si ramin pe dinafara...vb.cu punky sa merg in NMS...imi raspunde ca SOPRA este impotriva mea sa vin in trib...vb cu zaga si imi spune ca nu are nici un drept,el find in GRL.cer invitatie la CG si intru in trib...citeva ore (1 zi)se infiinteaza tribul nostru...sopra si hagi incep atacurile de inobilare asupra mea...4-5 nobil pierd in incercarea da ami lua
[02:21] <ZaNGaMaN> satele[datorita sprijinului vostru am reusit sa trec peste scap cu toate satele,inca odata va multumesc si va ramin dator...).sopra isi schimba strategia si se mobilizeaza cu Dracul1 si sare pe punky...si cucereste un sat(asta stiti si voi).port o discutie ci Dracu1 sa nu se bage in lupta lui sopra...se pare ca omul a inteles si se opreste.se desfiinteaza NMS-ul si sopra FUGE in US(refugiat pe fata...si este si acum tinut in brate).cer conduceri US
[02:21] <Pici> !ops
[02:21] <ZaNGaMaN> concedierea lui sopra(asta am facuto la toata conducerea US ).
[02:21] <ZaNGaMaN> NU VREAU SA PORNESC RAZBOI DIN CAUZA MEA CU tribul US.dca cei din conducerea lor sunt oameni cu asa MARE CARACTER SI SE RESPECTA...SOPRA TREBUIE CONCEDIAT.
[02:21] <R2LM> ZaNGaMaN: English only please!
[02:21] <ZaNGaMaN> JUDECATI SI VOI SI DATI-VA CU PAREREA.
[02:21] <ZaNGaMaN> zaga si toti ceilalti din conducere...cu riscul ca ma las de joc pe aceasta lume...sopra nu are zile bune cu mine
[02:21] <dsmith_> thank you sheesh
[02:22] <R2LM> dsmith: So how do I enable the Kubuntu repositories? Do you have the lines I can just add to my sources.list?
[02:23] <BluesKaj> looks like an anti USrant
[02:23] <vorian> R2LM: kubuntu shares the same archives as ubuntu
[02:24] <R2LM> vorian: OK, so I don't need to have anything special for Kubuntu in my sources.list then? Just the usual Ubuntu-Hardy stuff?
[02:24] <vorian> R2LM: nothing sepecial
[02:26] <R2LM> vorian: OK, thanks for your help. And thanks for your help too, dsmith. :)
[02:26] <dsmith_> np
[02:26] <ixenakis> hi :-)
[02:28] <Firefishe> How do I create a new fstab file from scratch.  My uuid information for ntfs3g is completely fragged.  I recently used gparted to resize my win partition to create space for a new ext3 partition, and now ubuntu won't even pmount properly.
[02:39] <_2> iftop may have a flaw in it.   it just measured my network activity as high as 30k/s over a 14k/s conection   ;/
[02:44] <_2> anyone know where i can get a win9x driver for "630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter" ?
[02:44] <_2> sorry wrong channel.
[02:48] <ZaNGaMaN> so how can i enable the wirless now,i folowed the http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766169 ,it ok but i don`t see my wirless enable???
[02:52] <candive> Hi all, how do I md5 sum in Kubuntu? tried instructions from kubuntu. not working
[02:53] <candive> no one home. back later. chow
[02:56] <ZaNGaMaN> !wireless
[02:57] <nonewmsgs> md5 iso.iso
[02:57] <nonewmsgs> ?
[02:58] <ORLOOCO> como vou para o pt msm ?
[02:58] <nonewmsgs> !es
[02:59] <nonewmsgs> !it
[02:59] <nonewmsgs> (not to flood but i am not sure which language that was)
[02:59] <ORLOOCO> consegui pessoal, muito obrigado
[03:16] <alin> hey i restarted my istem and now my grafic interfaces id dizzy why?
[03:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> i have a problem
[03:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> i hve already installed kubuntu
[03:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> nd i got a virus on windows xp
[03:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> now i want to reinstall windows xp
[03:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> but keep kubuntu
[03:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> how can i do that?
[03:32] <CostaRicanQuaker> ive heard that that would give grub some problems
[03:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> but that it can be solved
[03:33] <bazhang> !grub
[03:33] <bazhang> CostaRicanQuaker, ^^
[03:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> so how do i install windows after ubuntu?
[03:33] <CostaRicanQuaker> bazhang:thanks man
[03:33] <bazhang> np
[03:34] <bazhang> for windows questions--> ##windows
[03:43] <thomas__> hello
[03:44] <thomas__> if i want to change the name of my machine is it sufficient to change the /etc/hostname file?
[03:46] <Pici> thomas__: no, you need to modify /etc/hosts as well
[03:47] <thomas__> thx Pici
[04:01] <darkwolf> so any advice on getting an epson stylus c84 printing?
[04:02] <darkwolf> I got it hooked up and set up, but when I try to print, nothing happens, although the print job sits there in the queue
[04:04] <darkwolf> gahhhhh is it unsolvable?
[04:04] <darkwolf> what other info do I need to give?
[04:06] <darkwolf> anyone? is anyone there? doesn't anyone care? this isn't very fair... what if I made it a dare? what is the answer you won't share? tell or I'll make you sit in a chair, and attack you with a bear that I got at the state fair and I keep hidden away in my lair
[04:10] <mr---t-> have you seen this? http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_C84
[04:11] <darkwolf> yes
[04:11] <darkwolf> I use the gutenprint driver
[04:11] <mr---t-> have you tried the others?
[04:13] <darkwolf> no
[04:13] <darkwolf> the rpms and debs?
[04:13] <darkwolf> I wouldn't even know what to do with them
[04:14] <mr---t-> what is your release and kde versions
[04:16] <darkwolf> gusty gibbon 7.10
[04:18] <mr---t-> NickPresta:  do you think you can help the darwolf and his printer problem
[04:18] <NickPresta> mr---t-, I didn't see the problem. what is it?
[04:19] <mr---t-> so any advice on getting an epson stylus c84 printing?
[04:19] <darkwolf> so any advice on getting an epson stylus c84
[04:19] <darkwolf> I got it hooked up and set up, but when I try to print, nothing happens, although the print job sits there in the queue
[04:19] <darkwolf> :)
[04:21] <mr---t-> he's on gutsy and using the gutenprint drivers
[04:22]  * darkwolf nods
[04:22] <Dr_willis> sounds like one might want to enable verbose cups logging and check the logs carefully.
[04:23]  * mr---t- has never used kubuntu gutsy
[04:23] <darkwolf> okay, how do I do that?
[04:24] <Dr_willis> i normally edit the cups config file and restart cups.
[04:25] <Dr_willis> there may be a gui tool to do it - or backup and edit ->  /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[04:26] <darkwolf> okay I got it open
[04:26] <darkwolf> now what?
[04:26] <Dr_willis> read the file...
[04:26] <Dr_willis> and the comments. :)
[04:26] <Dr_willis> # Log general information in error_log - change "info" to "debug" for
[04:26] <Dr_willis> # troubleshooting...
[04:26] <Dr_willis> LogLevel warning
[04:27] <Dr_willis> change 'warning' to 'debug' in my case it seems.
[04:27] <t3roar> hey guys, i've just installed kubuntu alongside Vista
[04:27] <t3roar> and GRUB only gives three kubuntu options
[04:28] <Dr_willis> You mean to be saying it gives no 'vista' boot option?
[04:28] <t3roar> yes
[04:28] <Dr_willis> Hope you didnt accidently delete the vista install.
[04:28] <t3roar> no, i checked in dolphin and the files are still there
[04:29] <Dr_willis> 'sudo fdisk -l' should show some NTFS partitions.  :)  You may need to manually edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst to add a vista boot entry.
[04:29] <t3roar> i'm in the menu.lst now
[04:29] <t3roar> just wondering what i need to put in there
[04:30] <Dr_willis> Theres a example entry for 'windows' booting off the first partition of the first hd. You could use for an example.
[04:30] <Dr_willis> its above the ubuntu kernel entries
[04:31] <Dr_willis> Uncomment it, set the  root (hd0,0) to be correct. and it 'should' boot windows.
[04:31] <Dr_willis> It will also put windows as the first menu item in the grub menu.
[04:32] <t3roar> well windows is installed in sda2
[04:32] <t3roar> because the ubuntu installation overrode a previous dual-boot configuration
[04:33] <Dr_willis> rember that grub starts counting at 0. :) so lets see.. sda2 should be hd0,1
[04:33] <Dr_willis> I think. :)
[04:33] <t3roar> oh right okay cool :)
[04:33] <darkwolf> okay, now how do I restart grub?
[04:33] <darkwolf> I mean, CUPS
[04:33] <darkwolf> lol
[04:33] <Dr_willis> 'sudo /etc/init.d/SERVICENAME restart'
[04:33] <t3roar> is there no need to link to the kernel for the windows installation?
[04:34] <Dr_willis> link to the kernel?
[04:34] <t3roar> the lines for linux have 'kernel' information
[04:34] <t3roar> for where the kernel is
[04:34] <Dr_willis> thate because they are linux  :)
[04:35] <Dr_willis> note the 'chainloader +1' thats hands over the booting to the windows stuff.
[04:35] <mr---t-> windows hides thier kernal in ntldr
[04:35] <t3roar> oh okay, in that case one more question, if i uncomment the windows example at the top, dont i need to move it to an appropriate section of the menu.lst file?
[04:36] <Dr_willis> t3roar,  no. it will ust show up at the top of grubs menu as i said earlier.
[04:36] <t3roar> oh yeah cool
[04:36] <t3roar> oh okay
[04:36] <Dr_willis> Unless you want it at the bottom of the list.
[04:36] <t3roar> i'll try that now and reboot
[04:36] <t3roar> nope, top of the list
[04:36] <Dr_willis> I perfer it at the top - so that it dosent keep jumping around. :)
[04:38] <t3roar> thanks Dr
[04:38] <t3roar> back soon
[04:43] <t3roar> hi guys, i tried and it hung on 'starting up'
[04:44] <t3roar> so i selected ubuntu again and now i'm here
[04:44] <t3roar> can't boot to windows
[04:44] <t3roar> what should i do?
[04:47] <t3roar> anyone here?
[04:47] <darkwolf> I am
[04:47] <darkwolf> I don't get how to restart CUPs, I am an idiot
[04:47] <t3roar> any idea what i could do?
[04:48] <darkwolf> use a gparted livecd... I'm a dork and it never fails for me
[04:48] <t3roar> i've done everything right, i just need to write the menu.lst properly
[04:49] <t3roar> i must have made an error
[04:49] <mr---t-> Dr_willis  11:33:54 pm'sudo /etc/init.d/SERVICENAME restart'
[04:49] <darkwolf> I know
[04:49] <darkwolf> mr t
[04:49] <darkwolf> I put cups where servicename is right?
[04:49] <mr---t-> yes
[04:49] <darkwolf> i tried cups and cupsd in place of SERVICENAME
[04:49] <darkwolf> yeah nothing happened
[04:50] <darkwolf> actually, it says command not found
[04:50] <mr---t-> no error message
[04:51] <darkwolf> actually, it says command not found
[04:55] <mr---t-> mine is called cupsys
[04:55] <darkwolf> okay, I'll try that
[04:55] <darkwolf> it worked!
[04:55] <darkwolf> sounds like something gollum would say
[04:56] <darkwolf> now what?!!?!?!?!
[04:56] <mr---t-> you are supposed to try to generate an error and then see where it occurs in the log correct?
[04:58] <darkwolf> but nor errors are incurred
[04:58] <darkwolf> it just says "Processing" in the print tray forever
[04:59] <darkwolf> still processing...
[04:59] <t3roar> anyone know why vista doesnt boot with grub?
[05:00] <mr---t-> !vista
[05:01] <ubuntu> hi
[05:02] <t3roar> Mr. T, i know that stuff
[05:02] <darkwolf> no one here can help us t3roar
[05:02] <darkwolf> this channel is the land of the damned
[05:03] <t3roar> lol but its got more users online than any other on this server
[05:03] <t3roar> how can this be
[05:03] <darkwolf> it is purgatory for linux newbies who have not yet fully converted to Linux
[05:03] <t3roar> :P
[05:03] <t3roar> lol
[05:03] <darkwolf> your geek soul has to find its own way to the open source promised land
[05:04] <t3roar> haha nooooo
[05:04] <t3roar> i must solve this problem tonight
[05:04] <t3roar> its 5am here
[05:04] <darkwolf> its midnight here
[05:04] <t3roar> i have been up all night doing this shit
[05:04] <t3roar> where are you?
[05:04] <t3roar> i'm in London, UK
[05:04] <darkwolf> I have been stalking this channel since yesterday
[05:05] <darkwolf> tallahassee, Florida, United States
[05:05] <t3roar> ah okay cool
[05:05] <t3roar> out of interest, how old are you?
[05:06] <darkwolf> 22
[05:06] <darkwolf> but this channel makes me feel like I'm 122
[05:06] <t3roar> hehe i'm 17 and i, similarly feel 7
[05:07] <darkwolf> well my ignorance makes me feel 7, the wait like a centenarian
[05:07] <darkwolf> not that I am not grateful to the BRILLIANT, witty, kind, and all around fantabulous people that hang out around here
[05:07] <t3roar> do you know the terminal command to get HDD info that someone said earlier btw?
[05:08] <darkwolf> I know nothing
[05:08] <t3roar> lol okay
[05:08] <t3roar> wow you gonna try sucking up huh?
[05:08] <t3roar> maybe people will start talking then
[05:08] <sgallinger> HAHA
[05:08] <darkwolf> I am the user Linux developers were busting their asses off for when they were trying to make distros easier to use
[05:08] <sgallinger> new to linux
[05:08] <sgallinger> confused
[05:09] <darkwolf> I am pretty new
[05:09] <darkwolf> just a few months
[05:09] <t3roar> me too, one day
[05:09] <t3roar> but i'm getting on surprisingly well
[05:09] <Rawerrors> ok better
[05:09] <darkwolf> never tried to set up a printer before
[05:09] <Rawerrors> it isnt hapnin here either
[05:09] <Rawerrors> its a pretty paperweight though
[05:09] <t3roar> hehe
[05:10] <Rawerrors> i painted my friends nursery for a printer i havent figured out
[05:10] <darkwolf> gyahhh I need a prtiner
[05:10] <Rawerrors> and spellcheckl
[05:11] <Rawerrors> is their any trivia on this shtuff?
[05:11] <darkwolf> somebody better tell me how to get this printer working, or I'm going to mail you all a copy of Vista!
[05:11] <Rawerrors> haha
[05:11] <Rawerrors> i use vista to prop up the short leg on my desk
[05:11] <t3roar> anyone know how to get the hda numbers of drives then?
[05:11] <t3roar> partitions**
[05:12] <darkwolf> use the gparted livecd bro
[05:12] <mr---t-> sudo fdisk -l' should show some NTFS partitions
[05:12] <darkwolf> it will work, it is fullproof
[05:13] <darkwolf> mr t, I missed you bro
[05:13] <darkwolf> don't you pity the fool who can't get his printer to work?
[05:13] <t3roar> it shows them
[05:13] <t3roar> but not their hda numbers
[05:14] <Rawerrors> they re humping on the space channel
[05:14] <Rawerrors> made ya look
[05:14] <darkwolf> I think you meant spice channel?
[05:14] <mr---t-> just so you know I'm a recent linux convert myself I'm willing to help but my knowledge is limited I do have a working system as reference
[05:14] <candive> Funny you were right nudity
[05:15] <darkwolf> its cool man, I am just messing around
[05:15] <darkwolf> I am so bored and discouraged
[05:15] <mr---t-> darkwolf: yes i have pity
[05:15] <darkwolf> first my boss chews me out all day and now the Linux channel turnes its back on me in my darkest hour
[05:16] <mr---t-> but i aslo spent two weeks getting a windows wireless card working in ubuntu
 darkwolf: yes i have pity <--- in that case, can I call you collect?
[05:16] <darkwolf> I took a week getting a wireless card working in Damn Small Linux
[05:17] <mr---t-> florida to new york shouldn't be expensive
[05:17] <darkwolf> New York huh? cool, are you nerd? go to any conventions? New York Comicon was just there
[05:18] <mr---t-> no I'm not yet a nerd but i'm willing to learn
[05:18] <darkwolf> cool, I'll teach you
[05:18] <darkwolf> first, you need to get some Star Trek box sets
[05:18] <darkwolf> my favorite is Deep Space Nine
[05:18] <mr---t-> lol
[05:19] <darkwolf> actually, the Captain on Deep Space Nine did some IBM Supports Linux commercials in the 90s
[05:19] <mr---t-> saw them once and have a photo memory
[05:19] <darkwolf> http://youtube.com/watch?v=KwEWxpOWOok
[05:19] <darkwolf> he is actually going to be at dragoncon, a big conventions in Atlanta, iN August
[05:20] <mr---t-> so when I got you some good help the good DR said to look at your logs , how did it go?
[05:20] <darkwolf> which I am going to be at
[05:21] <darkwolf> I don't see how it can do any good
[05:21] <mr---t-> do you have tape on your glasses
[05:21] <darkwolf> there are no errors
[05:21] <darkwolf> it is still "processing"
[05:21] <mr---t-> as in the print job never sent to spooler?
[05:21] <darkwolf> no, I wear contacts, but I got a neato starfleet uniform and Captain Kirk pocket protector
[05:22] <mr---t-> lol
[05:22] <darkwolf> and, I use Linux!
[05:22] <darkwolf> I guess it was never sent to the spooler
[05:22] <darkwolf> my printer is on and hooked up, but never made a sound
[05:23] <darkwolf> I have the printer icon on my toolbar, but the job just says "Processing"
[05:23] <darkwolf> its a disaster
[05:23] <mr---t-> listen I've been with windows for years and linux for months I see clearly the benefits of linux
[05:23] <darkwolf> at DragonCon I am going to ask Captain Sisko if IBM really still supports Linux 100%, seems like just 10% to me
[05:24] <darkwolf> lol yeah Linux has been great
[05:24] <darkwolf> I love it
[05:24] <mr---t-> some hardware doesn't yet play well with linux but generally epson isn't one of them
[05:24] <darkwolf> but it lacks Text to Speech and easy Printer compatibility...
[05:24] <darkwolf> exactly!
[05:24] <darkwolf> it is supposed to work great
[05:24] <darkwolf> who do I have to pay to get some support! :(
[05:24] <mr---t-> does your box see the printer?
[05:25] <darkwolf> how can I check for sure?
[05:25] <mr---t-> text to speech is available, Iv'e seen the packages
[05:25] <bazhang> !info festival
[05:25] <mr---t-> sudo lshw
[05:26] <darkwolf> dude yes, I have used festival
[05:26] <darkwolf> it is terrible compared to windows TTS options
[05:26] <mr---t-> ^ command
[05:27] <darkwolf> Microsoft Reader /w TTS and cleartype is lightyears ahead of any ebook utilities on Linux
[05:27] <darkwolf> ditto for Mobipocket, which is almost as good
[05:27] <mr---t-> there is also kspeech and others but that doesn;t help you
[05:28] <darkwolf> isn't Kspeech just a frontend for festival?
[05:28] <darkwolf> okay I used to command
[05:28] <mr---t-> maybe but what was the output of the command
[05:29] <ben__> I'm new to Linux and I finished my Kubuntu install and installed Compiz-fusion, but now my bars that allow me to open, close, and minimize my windows are gone. Is this an Emerald issue?
[05:29] <mr---t-> !compiz
[05:30] <ben__> Thanks
[05:30] <darkwolf> lol mr t has reflexes like a cat
[05:30] <ben__> Gotta love informative bots
[05:30] <mr---t-> !botsnack
[05:30] <darkwolf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25140/
[05:31] <darkwolf> thats the result
[05:32] <darkwolf> so, I don't think it sees it...
[05:33] <mr---t-> ok it says your serial port device is unclaimed = it doesn't see it
[05:33] <mr---t-> stupid question one serial port or two?
[05:34] <darkwolf> two
[05:35] <mr---t-> stupider question , are you on the correct one?
[05:36] <darkwolf> my printer is plugged into the parallel port...there are two serial ports next to it
[05:36] <mr---t-> hold on
[05:43] <darkwolf> .....
[05:44] <mr---t-> I 'm trying to remeber the command I'm looking for
[05:46] <t3roar> hey guys, i'm having trouble booting to vista through grub
[05:47] <t3roar> can anyone help?
[05:48] <bazhang> !grub
[05:49] <darkwolf> what kind of command is it?
[05:50] <t3roar> what do you mean?
[05:50] <darkwolf> sorry, meant for Mr T
[05:51] <t3roar> oh right hehe np
[05:54] <mr---t-> I want to be certain we are seeing the parrallel ports
[06:01] <mr---t-> darkwolf:  as I have never configured (successfully) a parallel printer I may be of little more use to you, the command I gave you is supposed to give all your hardware, but being as I don't currently have any thing configured in my P port I can't verify that the command shows the port
[06:02]  * darkwolf nods
[06:03] <darkwolf> so, in other words, I'm Screeeeeeeewed
[06:05] <mr---t-> Well it's late here but early in other parts of the world so you may still get help in here, generally though ,you will get more flys with honey than with vinegar if you get my meaning
[06:05] <darkwolf> I think I have been pretty nice
[06:06] <darkwolf> thanks for your help
[06:06] <DonConradioni> anyone able to help with updating Kubuntu 6.10?
[06:06] <DonConradioni> Whenever i upgrade, when I restart it freezes
[06:07] <mr---t-> np sorry I couldn't help more , maybe you have seemed frustrated , understablily so,
[06:16] <t3roar> does kubuntu run when the partition it's installed on isn't checked as 'boot' ?
[06:20] <envision> Does anyone know how to add parameters to an .exe in kubuntu? (Ex: Diablo II.exe -w For windowded mode)
[06:27] <ShiNoBi> ???
[06:33] <ahmed> where can i find documintation about kubuntu 8.04
[06:34] <envision> www.Kubuntu.com and select documentation
[06:34] <ahmed> i know but i cannt find 8.04 onlu 6.06 and 7 are available there
[06:35] <ahmed> envision: i know but i cannt find 8.04 onlu 6.06 and 7.10 are available there
[06:38] <envision> What do you need to know? I might be able to help
[06:41] <ahmed> ok i attached  new hdd and i cannt find any partition to mount it
[06:42] <dsmith_> did you format it ahmed?
[06:43] <dsmith_> however, you must create partitions
[06:43] <ahmed> no it is the master hdd of other pc it has data
[06:43] <dsmith_> oh
[06:43] <dsmith_> you need partitons
[06:43] <dsmith_> gparted live CD
[06:44] <dsmith_> !google
[06:44] <ahmed> it is 4 partitions
[06:44] <dsmith_> !gparted
[06:44] <dsmith_> !live CD
[06:45] <ahmed> is gpated for paititiong the hard drive but mine is allready partitioned and has data
[06:45] <dsmith_> is it full?
[06:45] <dsmith_> or does it have free space?
[06:45] <ahmed> no it is not
[06:45] <ahmed> not full
[06:45] <dsmith_> have to create a ext3 partition
[06:46] <dsmith_> download the kubuntu livecd
[06:46] <dsmith_> install from that
[06:46] <ahmed> i dont want to install kubuntu on it i attached it as slave hdd
[06:47] <dsmith_> and?
[06:47] <dsmith_> so you trying to read ntfs parttions?
[06:47] <dsmith_> !ntfs-3g
[06:47] <ahmed> want to know how to mount these partitions i cannt find any in storage m,edia
[06:48] <dsmith_> edit fstab
[06:48] <dsmith_> !fstab
[06:48] <ahmed> ok thanks i'll check that
[06:48] <dsmith_> your welcome
[06:49] <dsmith_> biovore: you around?
[06:54] <sigma_12> !ups
[06:55] <sigma_12> how do you configure a battery ups under linux?
[06:55] <dsmith_> use adept
[06:55] <dsmith_> search for usp
[06:55] <dsmith_> *ups
[06:56] <sigma_12> thanks
[07:03] <Sparky> I feel guilty joining in this channel, because I never seem to have any good advice for the thousands of other users who come asking questions, so I end up also only coming around when I have a question to ask
[07:04] <Relyc> ok i have question how do i get my dvds to play seems like only a few work most dont
[07:06] <Relyc> *Relyc just broke free of bill gates evil chains*
[07:07] <sigma_12> what error does it give?
[07:07] <Sparky> Relyc, is this link any help?  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#How_to_install_multimedia_support_on_Hardy_Heron
[07:09] <Relyc> no errors it just says the name of the title and stops
[07:10] <Relyc> ill check it out
[07:10] <sigma_12> sounds like a missing codec
[07:15] <Sparky> I'm having a problem with updates ... there's this file called "libnspr4", which apparently has something to do with Netscape and Pidgin, Mozilla Firefox, and Mozilla Thunderbird all need it ... except the versions my OS wants to update to require "libnspr4-0d" ... and here's the thing ... I can't install the "0d" version because it tries to write files that are -already found in "libnspr4"- ...holy crap!  ... and then, I can't
[07:15] <Sparky> uninstall "libnspr4" because all these programs that need it are half-installed... except they won't install all the way because they require "libnspr4-0d"!
[07:16] <Relyc> i havnt read through this whole page yet but is there somewhere i can download dvd codecs and maybe new key board drvers i have no question mark or at symbol hehe
[07:18] <Sparky> Relyc, there is a place you can download codecs and drivers from ... it's called the Ubuntu repository;  start Synaptic and try to find the files you need ... although the keyboard thing might be some screwed-up settings or something
[07:20] <Relyc> thnx ill check it out
[07:23] <Sparky> um... can anyone here give advice about dependency problems?  ...maybe Netscape libraries aren't really Kubuntu territory, but I'm kind of at a loss...
[07:27]  * dsmith_ wonders why gnome users are coming here to kubuntu
[07:28] <Sparky> I'm not a Gnome user!  ...I just really like certain programs...
[07:29] <dsmith_> heheh
[07:29]  * dsmith_ is the same way
[07:29] <dsmith_> gnome-desktop, sbackup, etc
[07:29] <dsmith_> er...gnome-rdp
[07:30] <dsmith_> but I m still seeing them
[07:30]  * Sparky suddenly realizes he should have told Relyc to use "Adept" instead of Synaptic ...
[07:30] <dsmith_> hehe
[07:31] <Sparky> (I have both, in case I need them, and I get them mixed up)
[07:32] <dsmith_> adept and terminal for me
[07:33] <Sparky> I prefer typing apt-get so-and-so, until something breaks ... if I just feel like browsing for random software, I use Synaptic
[07:36] <dsmith_> i like wget
[07:41] <Sparky> I have a question ... if the update I'm trying to do needs a package called "libnspr4-0d" and I only have "libnspr4", and I can't seem to make apt replace the old package with the "-0d" package and nothing works anymore because I have like 50 half-configured packages ...is there a way to fix this?
[07:42] <bobert> can i burn a cd install disc to a dvd and still have it bootable?
[07:44] <Sparky> I don't see why not
[07:50] <Sparky> dsmith_ ... talking about random apps gave me the solution to my problem ... mentioning wget made me think of what program I can use to remove packages, and I remembered dpkg, and so.... yeah ...
[07:51] <dsmith_> also run autoremove  and autoclean
[07:53] <Sparky> good idea!  I'll do that as soon as all these packages are finally configured
[08:19] <sacarde> hi
[08:20] <sacarde> I installed kubuntu intrepid, by debootstrap on my ppc
[08:20] <sacarde> all works ok, exept aptitude
[08:22] <sacarde> I wrong
[08:22] <sacarde> I have error in adept_installer
[08:22] <sacarde> KCrash: Application 'adept_installer' crashing...
[08:22] <sacarde> KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly.
[08:23] <apparle> I am not able to play mp3 in juk andy body can help
[08:25] <pulaski> hello,  I've bought a replacement ide hard drive.  I have partitioned into 4 ext3 type fs of equal size.  However I'm unable to mount the partitions using "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1"   I get the ubiquitous "wrong fs type..." mesg on the command line.  The syslog shows"VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sdc1".  I've done this successfully often in the past.  Can anyone offer any suggestions as to what's
[08:25] <pulaski> happening now?
[08:28] <f3rr311> hello
[08:28] <f3rr311> and one on?
[08:29] <f3rr311> any?
[08:29] <pulaski> f3rr311: hi
[08:29] <Sparky> hello
[08:30] <f3rr311> hey
[08:30] <f3rr311> ok have 2 problems
[08:30] <Sparky> "logic has left this channel"?  a sad day indeed...
[08:30] <f3rr311> 1st hardy has a login issue has anyone found a fix
[08:31] <f3rr311> second
[08:31] <Sparky> what is the login issue?
[08:31] <f3rr311> when you logout it just goes  black
[08:32] <f3rr311> it des not logout all the way so some changes are not saved
[08:32] <Sparky> I've... noticed something similar to that
[08:32] <f3rr311> the second is i have to run "sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M"
[08:32] <f3rr311> to make my rt2500 work right
[08:34] <f3rr311> figured there are ppl in here with stronger mojo in *nix than me
[08:34] <apparle> can anyone give me the links of amarak and all its dependencies
[08:34] <pulaski> f3rr311: When I log out my hardy hangs as the shutdown kubuntu splash screen processing bar displays.
[08:35] <f3rr311> mine goes black never shows the revese splash page
[08:35] <Sparky> apparle asked a question I know the answer to!  I mean, assuming you are just misspelling "Amarok" and not naming a package I've never heard of before
[08:36] <apparle> sparky: yes amarok
[08:36] <f3rr311> i was a windows person and i have a question does windows like eat all the bandwidth?
[08:36] <pulaski> f3rr311: hmm, any other symptoms? can you switch konsoles, what do you have to do to reboot?
[08:37] <Sparky> http://packages.ubuntu.com/amarok
[08:37] <f3rr311> well i put a option in the kdmrc file
[08:37] <f3rr311> but it does not help
[08:37] <f3rr311> let me remove it
[08:37] <f3rr311> but b4 i added it  i could switch terminals
[08:38] <f3rr311> i think its a issue with ati prop drivers
[08:39] <f3rr311> to reboot i have to run reboot command from one of the termianls or soft-rset using case switch
[08:39] <apparle> Sparky: ha ha ha!!! Do you think I'm a fool, I want the links to the .deb files directly
[08:40] <apparle> Even google search will show me your link
[08:41] <Sparky> apparle, to answer your question, yes;  to answer the statement following your question, try clicking on stuff in the link that I showed you until you find what you need
[08:42] <f3rr311> #TerminateServer=true
[08:42] <f3rr311> removed it
[08:42] <Sparky> for instance, apparle, if you clicked on "hardy" and "amarok-engines" and decided to download from France for some reason, you'd get this link:  http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/amarok/amarok-engines_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu3_i386.deb
[08:43] <f3rr311> i hope i can get this fixed or it looks like ill never reboot again
[08:43] <apparle> Sparky: I know that but I want a diret list of links generated by apt
[08:43] <f3rr311> lolz
[08:45] <pulaski> f3rr311: My kdmrc file shows the "TerminateServer=true" directive as the default.  Why remove it?
[08:47] <f3rr311> can i post 3 lons?
[08:47] <f3rr311> lines?
[08:47] <f3rr311> or will it think im flooding?
[08:48] <f3rr311> #TerminateServer=true
[08:48] <f3rr311> thats how it looks in my kdm file
[08:48] <f3rr311> should i uncomment it?
[08:49] <pulaski> f3rr311: sorry, that's the same as my box,  I don't know what it does, do you?
[08:50] <f3rr311> it forces xserver to restar after logout
[08:51] <f3rr311> im un commenting it and loging out if it take  me a lil while to get back ull know y
[08:51] <nado> !icqbug
[08:51] <f3rr311> brb
[08:53] <spire> How can I remove the count-down time indicator in the top-left corner of Kaffeine when playing DVD
[08:55] <f3rr311> lol back
[08:55] <f3rr311> nogo
[08:55] <f3rr311> can u send me a copy of your kdmrc file
[08:58] <Sparky> apparle, your question is harder than I originally thought; however, I found this link:  http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/05/06/update-or-install-applications-on-debianubuntu-without-an-internet-connection/   it might be completely useless to you, but it's a start
[09:00] <f3rr311> any one heard ne thing about a fix for the Ralink rt2500 1/Mbps
[09:06] <llutz> Moin
[09:07] <pulaski> f3rr311: What's up with the dcc?
[09:07] <f3rr311> i think my ddwrt router is blocking it
[09:09] <Roey> hi
[09:09] <Roey> anyone else here having trouble with the image uploader in Facebook under Kubuntu?
[09:17] <f3rr311> is there a  way to kmake knetwork manager not ask for passwords
[09:17] <Schorfi> kwalletmanager
[09:17] <f3rr311> i know
[09:18] <f3rr311> i want it compleatly automated
[09:18] <f3rr311> not asking for wallet password
[09:18] <Schorfi> there is a option to save the password in clear text
[09:18] <f3rr311> ok
[09:19] <Schorfi> in knetworkmanager
[09:20] <jussi01> f3rr311: you can also have no password on the wallet
[09:23] <francophile> good morning, does anyone know why it is that kubuntu8.04 with kde4.1 consumes my full 2GB of memory after a fresh boot? Is it normal?
[09:23] <francophile> Quite new to linux by the way :)
[09:24] <Jucato> !ram | francophile
[09:24] <Assurbanipal> hi, can someone help me with sending sms with skype under kubuntu?
[09:25] <francophile> i'll have a quick look into that, thanks!
[09:26] <f3rr311> i have to run this command to make my rt200 run right is therea way to automate this
[09:26] <f3rr311> sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M
[09:26] <Assurbanipal> i have found this http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=96258&st=0 but do not know what to do
[09:26] <f3rr311> rt2500*
[09:28] <ubuntu> hi
[09:28] <ubuntu> i just make a fsck, from a live-cd to my ubuntu-system, but there are errors:
[09:28] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25157/
[09:28] <ubuntu> should i press y
[09:30] <SilentDis> Assurbanipal: Skype for linux, all versions, currently do not support SMSing.  They've yet to release v3 for the linux platform, we're stuck on V2
[09:30]  * SilentDis uses skype a lot ;)
[09:36] <f3rr311> SilentDis my main problem is that i can not logout or reboot or shutdown using the kde button
[09:40] <kannan> hello
[09:53] <tosha> всем привет :) люди, я тока -что поставил Линукс. никогда в жизни им не пользовался. скажите, где для него асю добыть.
[09:54] <llutz> !ru | tosha
[09:57] <f3rr311> main problem is that i can not logout or reboot or shutdown using the kde button
[10:26] <eagles0513875> hey guys
[10:28] <dr_Willis> hi
[10:28] <eagles0513875> doc u in offtopic
[10:28] <eagles0513875> *you
[10:32] <dr_Willis> Not really. :)
[10:32] <spire> How can I remove the count-down time indicator in the top-left corner of Kaffeine when playing DVD?
[10:32] <dr_Willis> sounds like the OSD display settings.
[10:34] <dr_Willis> but i only use gmplayer. So no idea what keys in kaffine controll that
[10:49] <naught101> I'm trying to statically configure my eth0 card, but it won't let me, because 'the default gateway address is invalid'
[10:50] <naught101> I'm doing this so that I can share my internet connection on ppp0 over ethernet, through a hub
[10:50] <naught101> what should the default gateway be? it appears I can't leave it blank
[10:51] <dr_Willis> For my lan its the ip of my router.
[10:51] <dr_Willis> <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:51] <naught101> right, but I'm trying to set up my computer as the router
[10:52] <dr_Willis> If your machine is on dialup. then it gets the gateway/dns server ip's from the ISP you are dialing
[10:52] <dr_Willis> You could set it to <IP_ADDRESS> I guess.
[10:52] <dr_Willis> Ive not messed with network-sharing-making-a-router in ages.
[10:53] <naught101> nope. it appears that what ever I put in, kcontrol tells me that the gateway address is invalid
[10:54] <SPhcT> hellwo
[10:54] <SPhcT> what i need set for swap area?
[10:55] <dr_Willis> SPhcT,  a swap partition? or swap file?
[10:55] <SPhcT> Type of new partition? Size i have 1019mb!
[10:55] <dr_Willis> swap is its own partition type.
[10:56] <dr_Willis> from my fdisk -l ---> /dev/sda4           48321       48641     2578432+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[10:56] <SPhcT> Type of new partition: Now is primary but i can select logical what i need select?
[10:56] <dr_Willis> make a partition of the proper type, use the mkswap command to 'format it as swap',  edit fstab to add proper entry. use swapon command to enable it.
[10:57] <dr_Willis> a logical goes inside an extended partition I belive.
[10:57] <eagles0513875> doc ill check that out for ya
[10:58] <SPhcT> and where is best location in beginning or end?
[10:58] <eagles0513875> dr_Willis: logical inside extended
[10:58] <dr_Willis> SPhcT,  really dosent matter. I tend to put a 512mb swap parttiion at the end of every hard drive i put on a system. :)
[10:59] <dr_Willis> Old habbit i have. from using lots of live cd's :)  they often see/use swap. so i want a swap somewhere on every system i got. so i put one on every drive i got.
[10:59] <SPhcT> 512 mb will be ok? i put 1019mb
[10:59] <dr_Willis> depends on your system,  and ram
[10:59] <dr_Willis> and your needs.
[11:00] <dr_Willis> I really need to track down a 'how drives are partioned guide' that explains how  Primary/extended/logical work. and the limitations of them.
[11:00] <dr_Willis> Most of this is just stuff ive learned over the years.
[11:01] <SPhcT> ok so i need put it on 500mhz / 512ram / 4mb video / 20gb hd... Fore internet,mails,skype,orinal games
[11:01] <dr_Willis>  You can have 4 Primary Partitions. (i think) of which one or more can be Extended partitions, those extended can hold 1 or more logicals.
[11:01] <dr_Willis> SPhcT,  that thing will need the swap. :) 1gb should work.
[11:01] <dr_Willis> This to be a Linux only box?
[11:02] <SPhcT> yes for linuz
[11:02] <eagles0513875> dr_Willis: 3 primary  4th is extended with 4 logical
[11:03] <dr_Willis> Hmm.. You can have more then 4 logicals in an extended I thought
[11:03] <dr_Willis> I just tend touse all primaries.  seems to save on the hassles.
[11:04] <SPhcT> to make faster read swap what location i shold take?
[11:04] <dr_Willis> SPhcT,  ive seen some people claim the front is faster then the rear.. but i doubt if you will notice any differance on such a low end machine
[11:05] <dr_Willis> fastest is to have swap on a seperate hard drive. :) or have several swaps spread around.
[11:05] <dr_Willis> on different hard drives
[11:05]  * dr_Willis reads up on partitions at   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_(computing)
[11:05] <SPhcT> :)) ok so i will take primary and at the end...
[11:06] <SPhcT> it is ok?
[11:06] <dr_Willis> SPhcT,  flip a coin. it proberly wont amtter at all.
[11:06] <dr_Willis> I would maye a primary for  /, and a small swap at the end. and be done with it.
[11:06] <dr_Willis> also primary for the swap
[11:07] <dr_Willis> A PC hard disk can contain either as many as four primary partitions, or 1-3 primaries and a single extended partition. Each of these partitions are described by a 16-byte entry in the Partition Table which is located in the Master Boot Record.
[11:07] <dr_Willis> Hmm.. i thought ive made layouts with more then 1 extended partition.. perhaps not. :)
[11:07] <SPhcT> ok ty..
[11:08] <john> ?
[11:10] <SPhcT> ou what mont i need take for ext3 primary?
[11:10] <dr_Willis> when you partition the drive, you make a primary partition, of type ext3.
[11:11] <SPhcT> yes but i dont have to select mount point?
[11:11] <dr_Willis> if you are installing kubuntu  and only want linux , on the machine, the installer can just auto-partition all this
[11:11] <dr_Willis> its mount point will be '/'
[11:12] <dr_Willis> '/' is the 'root' mount point.
[11:12] <SPhcT> ok it works now :)
[11:21] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, can someone tell me how i can disable superscroll on my laptop?
[11:22] <dr_Willis> Superscroll?
[11:22] <Assurbanipal> on the right side on my pad...
[11:22] <Assurbanipal> when i touch it it scrolls up and down the pages
[11:22] <Assurbanipal> i hate it
[11:22] <Assurbanipal> :S
[11:23] <dr_Willis> I recall some config tool for that. but not sure if its even in the repos any more. The synaptics driver has been  gettign worked on lately
[11:23] <dr_Willis> and has a name change.
[11:23] <dr_Willis> most call that the 'scroll area' i belive.
[11:23] <Assurbanipal> is't there an option in kde for that?
[11:23] <dr_Willis> its not kde related.. its X related
[11:24] <Assurbanipal> ...
[11:24] <dr_Willis> There was a ksynaptics tool ages ago. but i think its not beenupdated in ages
[11:24] <Assurbanipal> so there is othing to do?
[11:24] <dr_Willis> you configure X how you want.
[11:24] <dr_Willis> !find synaptics
[11:24] <dr_Willis> !info gsynaptics
[11:25] <dr_Willis> That tool may do it. but its the gnome version.  There used to be a ksynaptics, but look like its gone.
[11:25] <dr_Willis> assuming you have a synaptics brand touchpad.
[11:25] <dr_Willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/12/10/tweaking-your-synaptics-touchpad-laptops-ubuntu-6061-610/
[11:25] <dr_Willis> has some older info also.
[11:26] <dr_Willis> http://gsynaptics.sourceforge.jp/     for screen shots/info on gsynaptics.
[11:28] <dr_Willis> !find touchfreeze
[11:28] <dr_Willis> These tools are aparently beign replaced by 'touchfreeze'  from what i am reading.
[11:28] <dr_Willis> http://qsynaptics.sourceforge.net/
[11:30] <Hondo_Kitsune> I just installed ClamAV and it's GUI packages, and I cannot find it in my K menu, where is it?
[11:32] <dr_Willis> I normally run it with from the command line with sudo kla<tab>    - i belive.
[11:32] <dr_Willis> could be the menus just need refreshed.
[11:32] <Hondo_Kitsune> How do you run a refresh?
[11:32] <dr_Willis> I normally logout/back in.
[11:32] <Hondo_Kitsune> ok
[11:32] <dr_Willis> theres some dcop xomthing command...
[11:33] <dr_Willis> I cen never rember it
[11:33] <dr_Willis> and i normally dont worry about it. :) i run stuff from the command line,  eventually i logout and the menus get refreshed..
[11:35] <Hondo_Kitsune> Now my taskbar will not pop up when i put my cursor at the bottom edge of the screen
[11:36] <Hondo_Kitsune> I know it is there, I can see the orange glow from Emerald Window Decoration
[11:36] <dr_Willis> One reason i never use compiz/emerald :)
[11:36] <Hondo_Kitsune> I have had this problem before using kwm
[11:37] <Hondo_Kitsune> but that was back in my Mandriva days and I have forgotton how to bring it back up
[11:37] <dr_Willis> 'kicker' is the panel name.
[11:38] <Hondo_Kitsune> so,
[11:38] <Hondo_Kitsune> how do i bring up terminal
[11:38] <guest> anyone here
[11:38] <Hondo_Kitsune> not terminal, run
[11:38] <Guest62873> idonno
[11:39] <Guest62873>  so lyk how r u
[11:39] <Hondo_Kitsune> Guest62873: this is not a Chat channel, try #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:39] <Hondo_Kitsune> dr_Willis: Yeah, how do i get the Run box up again?
[11:40] <dr_Willis> Hondo_Kitsune,  you try alt-f2 ?
[11:40] <Hondo_Kitsune> didnt work
[11:40] <dr_Willis> looks like its time to logout/back in then.
[11:40] <Hondo_Kitsune> again
[11:40] <dr_Willis> One reason i never use compiz/emerald :)
[11:41] <minhaaj> i have flash plugin installed but it won't let me see youtube, any idea ?
[11:41] <minhaaj> i have unchecked flashblock too
[11:41] <minhaaj> strange thing is that flashblock won't uninstall
[11:41] <dr_Willis> This is in Firefox minhaaj ?
[11:41] <minhaaj> yep 3
[11:42] <dr_Willis> Flashblock just stops flash from playing automatically - as far as i know. It dosent really block it.
[11:42] <minhaaj> where else could you use flashblock ?
[11:42] <minhaaj> so what do i do dr ?
[11:42] <dr_Willis> Flash is a hassle. :) and often impossible to troubleshoot. So not sure.
[11:42] <minhaaj> but it also gives me the top bar which says i need to install missing plugins
[11:42] <minhaaj> and when i do, it says its already installed
[11:43] <dr_Willis> Im 'brave' and testing out the flash 10 beta.
[11:43] <Hondo_Kitsune> dr_Willis: still nothing
[11:43] <dr_Willis> You Did install flash using the package manager tool?
[11:43] <minhaaj> hehe
[11:43] <dr_Willis> !flash
[11:43] <minhaaj> whats that ?
[11:43] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  one does not normally let firefox download/install the addons like flash and java. One uses the system package manager tools to install them.
[11:43] <minhaaj> Adobe currently provides the latest version of Flash for Linux x86 only.
[11:44] <minhaaj> am i using linux 86 ?
[11:44] <dr_Willis> No idea.. are you? :)
[11:44] <minhaaj> how do i know ?
[11:44] <minhaaj> :)
[11:44] <Hondo_Kitsune> what is the command for KDE window manager again
[11:44] <dr_Willis> did you install the 32bit or 64bit kubuntu?
 --replace i know
[11:44] <dr_Willis> Hondo_Kitsune,  'kwin --replace'
[11:45] <Hondo_Kitsune> I now need to get into my autorun and remove emerald --replace from it
[11:45] <dr_Willis> !autorun
[11:45] <dr_Willis> !autostart
[11:45] <minhaaj> i am on ubuntu
[11:45] <dr_Willis> That Flash guide is rather old.. Hmm.
[11:45] <minhaaj> how do know about bits ?
[11:46] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  then you may want to be asking in #ubuntu.  I always download the 32bit Disrtos.
[11:46] <minhaaj> is there a sudo comand to get flash package manager ?
[11:46] <dr_Willis> I was thinking the  'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package installed flash  and other web things
[11:46] <minhaaj> ubuntu guys never help. with a channel with ppl over 1200 you are not likely to get help
[11:47] <minhaaj> Adobe currently provides the latest version of Flash for Linux x86 only.
[11:47] <dr_Willis> I find that a lot of people get help  in there every day.
[11:47] <minhaaj> not me though
[11:47] <minhaaj> :)
[11:48] <dr_Willis> x86  = 32bit version.
[11:48] <minhaaj> ok then i guess i am on 32 bit
[11:48] <minhaaj> intel dual core
[11:48] <minhaaj> 1.6 ghz
[11:48] <dr_Willis> it depends on what cd you downloaded/installed.
[11:48] <dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats      - Flash is in the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package. Install that package. and you will get flash.
[11:49] <dr_Willis> Follow these steps to play most common multimedia formats, including MP3, DVD, Flash, Quicktime, WMA and WMV, including both standalone files and content embedded in web pages.
[11:49] <minhaaj> hmm ok
[11:49] <minhaaj> actually let me explain
[11:49] <minhaaj> i did new ubuntu and installed packages from aptoncd.
[11:49] <minhaaj> and now when i open browser it won't play
[11:50] <dr_Willis> sounds like the cd dident have all the packages you needed.
[11:50] <dr_Willis> You mean to say this machine has no internet connection?
[11:51] <minhaaj> well now it has.
[11:51] <dr_Willis> then install the  'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package now?
[11:51] <minhaaj> on it sir :)
[11:56] <Hondo_Kitsune> !autostart
[11:56] <Hondo_Kitsune> !autorun
[11:56] <Hondo_Kitsune> why is it not working?
[11:56] <Hondo_Kitsune> oops
[11:57] <dr_Willis> Because thats a channel BOT command. :)
[11:57] <dr_Willis> its saying the gui tool -> e 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory
[11:58] <dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install kcontrol-autostart
[11:59] <minhaaj> dr long download, now if i back up on aptoncd these all will be included?
[11:59] <dr_Willis> I never use aptoncd. so no idea.
[11:59] <minhaaj> what do you use to back up ?
[12:00] <dr_Willis> I backup my personal data to dvd.
[12:00] <minhaaj> i would count on your recommendation for a back up program too. i screwed up my linux 5 times because i wanted to back up and it won't work
[12:00] <dr_Willis> I dont bother backing up a whole system.
[12:00] <minhaaj> home user backup, sbackup, mondo all
[12:00] <minhaaj> why not ?
[12:00] <minhaaj> you update each time you reinstall ?
[12:00] <dr_Willis> I rarely trash my system to such a extent that i need to  reinstall. :)
[12:00] <minhaaj> heh
[12:01] <FoxIII> Is kubuntu an official release from canonical?
[12:01] <minhaaj> i dont trash it either, its just i dont know how to recover from a minor disaster either
[12:01] <dr_Willis> I  can do a clean install, and i have my own little script that then installs whatever packages i normally use.
[12:01] <minhaaj> so i have to reinstall
[12:01] <minhaaj> wow what script ?
[12:01] <dr_Willis> Takes about an hr.
[12:01] <dr_Willis> one i just wrote.
[12:01] <dr_Willis> lots of 'apt-get install BLA BLA' stuff
[12:01] <minhaaj> cool. i found aptoncd.
[12:01] <minhaaj> its awesome
[12:01] <minhaaj> oh ok
[12:02] <FoxIII> Ignore my question! Just found out.
[12:02] <minhaaj> well you can't think of updating if you are on 1 mbps
[12:02] <minhaaj> you must be using over 10 mbps
[12:02] <dr_Willis> Im on a cable modem connection.
[12:02] <FoxIII> Do you guys ensure that your /home is on a separate partition?
[12:02] <minhaaj> thats fast
[12:02] <dr_Willis> FoxIII,  i did at one time.. but i rarely bother these days
[12:02] <minhaaj> not me FoxIII  but i hear thats good
[12:04] <minhaaj> nope dr willis its not working
[12:04] <FoxIII> It's good if you end up with problems and need to re-install as it means you don't lose your /home partition. You can just install re-kubuntu and tell it where your /home folder is.
[12:04] <minhaaj> even with restricted stuff
[12:04] <minhaaj> well you can copy paste your home too
[12:04] <dr_Willis> !dosentwork
[12:04] <dr_Willis> !dontwork
[12:04] <dr_Willis> :)
[12:04] <minhaaj> hehehe
[12:04] <dr_Willis> whats not working....
[12:05] <minhaaj> i thought we were talking about youtube ?
[12:05] <minhaaj> flash plugin ?
[12:05] <dr_Willis> You did restart the browser?
[12:05] <minhaaj> yep
[12:05] <FoxIII> Yes, you can copy it, but only if you have somewhere to copy to. And people new to linux can forget about hidden files (I used to be one of those people)
[12:06] <dr_Willis> No idea then.  I dotn bend over backwards too far for flash.   adobe makes it a bigger pain then it should be.
[12:06] <dr_Willis> Im suprised flash 10 works here at all. :) heh.
[12:06] <minhaaj> ok done
[12:06] <minhaaj> :)
[12:06] <minhaaj> aargh not yet
[12:07] <minhaaj> now i dont get the message to install flash, but i get white screen
[12:08] <minhaaj> i have gnash installed too, could be a conflict ?
[12:08] <SPhcT> what skype i need to instal for kubuntu 8.044
[12:08] <FoxIII> gnash is the free flash plugin isn't it?
[12:08] <minhaaj> yep that refused to work on my system atleast
[12:08] <FoxIII> Then yes. You will need to remove that.
[12:09] <philsf> does amarok have support for mms:// radio streams?
[12:09] <FoxIII> You will also need to remove adobe flash as well, and then re-install so you don't have any conficts.
[12:09] <FoxIII> philsf,  yes it does :)
[12:09] <dr_Willis> about:plugins      will show what plugins the browser is using.
[12:10] <minhaaj> adobe flash or flash plugin ?
[12:10] <philsf> FoxIII: can you please test if you can hear this one? mms://<IP_ADDRESS>/RJ - BandNewsFM
[12:10] <minhaaj> lots of them dr
[12:10] <dr_Willis> !info gnash
[12:10] <philsf> even if you don't understand what they're speaking ;)
[12:11] <minhaaj> shockwave flash
[12:11] <minhaaj> do i have to remove that too ?
[12:11] <FoxIII> minhaaj,  I have shockwaves flash and futuresplash player on mine and it works fine.
[12:11] <FoxIII> philsf,  okaly. Gimme a tick
[12:11] <minhaaj> yea its really weird FoxIII  it should work. it has been working before
[12:11] <philsf> FoxIII: my amarok just complains a generic error message
[12:11] <minhaaj> let me paste the contents of my backed up profile in firefox
[12:11] <minhaaj> i guess i need to del this one
[12:13] <FoxIII> philsf,  I'm getting a plugin required message
[12:13] <FoxIII> philsf,  is that what you are getting? Or something different?
[12:13] <philsf> FoxIII: does it tell you which one is missing?
[12:15] <philsf> FoxIII: I guess it's the same: missing input plugin, url not supported or network error (who decided it was a good idea to give the same error for several situations?) :/
[12:15] <FoxIII> philsf,  No it doesn't say which one is missing. I'm just seeing if there's a solution for it.
[12:17] <dr_Willis> mms://<IP_ADDRESS>/RJ - BandNewsFM                    Are the spaces supposed to be in there?
[12:18] <philsf> dr_Willis: I thought it was strange, too, but that's correct
[12:18] <philsf> it works on another player (gnome's)
[12:18] <dr_Willis> totem dont like it.. lets try bmpx
[12:19] <philsf> I'm listening now in Rhythmbox
[12:19] <dr_Willis> bmpx just hung onme starting up. :P
[12:19] <Doryian> amarok is the coolest
[12:20] <Ange|us> amarok rockz
[12:20] <Doryian> it has like 4 00 radio stations
[12:20] <FoxIII> It's working in Rhythmbox? Hmm. You may be able to use that. Can you see which plugins it uses? You could try and set that up in amarok.
[12:20] <philsf> I only open this program when I want to listen to my local news radio, for everything else, I use amarok, so I'd like to make it work
[12:21] <philsf> FoxIII: afaik I have all the plugins amarok has in the repos. I also tried the medibuntu version of amarok et al, to no avail
[12:22] <FoxIII> There must be something in rhythmbox. I don't know the software myself.
[12:22] <dr_Willis> i wonder if its not the spaces in theURL goofing things up.
[12:23] <philsf> dr_Willis: I think I tried putting it into quotes, but I'll have to try that again. just a sec
[12:23] <FoxIII> dr_Willis,  It may be. philsf have you tried taking the spaces out?
[12:24] <FoxIII> What about the launchpad suggestions?
[12:24] <SPhcT> hei can i tinstall skpe on kubuntu 8.04??
[12:24] <philsf> FoxIII: wait, one thing at a time :)
[12:24] <dr_Willis> !skype
[12:25] <philsf> dr_Willis: what do you mean, take the spaces out? you mean changing the url?
[12:26] <bascule> urlencode
[12:26] <dr_Willis> isent there some %## one can use instead of spaces...
[12:27] <bascule> python -> import urllib, urllib.urlencode('some not right url')
[12:27] <bascule> nedds the ' s
[12:27] <dr_Willis> it does play in bmpx
[12:27] <dr_Willis> sounds real statickly
[12:29] <dr_Willis>  amarok: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Unable to create io-slave:
[12:29] <dr_Willis> klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'mms'.
[12:29] <philsf> that's weird
[12:30] <philsf> dr_Willis: IIRC spaces are %20. I just tried that, same result
[12:31] <Doryian> yes it reaaaaally rocks
[12:31] <philsf> dr_Willis: I can't get this error running from a term
[12:32] <philsf> how did you do it?
[12:32] <dr_Willis> amarok dont seem to like any mms: streams here
[12:33] <dr_Willis> willis@mint:~(2144.865 Mb)$ amarok 'mms://<IP_ADDRESS>/RJ - BandNewsFM'
[12:34] <philsf> doh, of course :)
[12:34]  * philsf slaps his forehead
[12:34] <dr_Willis> trying to play   bbc also.
[12:34] <dr_Willis> mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/radio1/radio1_nb_e1s1
[12:36] <dr_Willis> bmpx is getting on my nerves.. :)  heh.
[12:37] <philsf> dr_Willis: seems to be loading here
[12:41] <philsf> well, actually it freezes my amarok while trying :/
[12:41] <dr_Willis> klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'mms'.
[12:41] <dr_Willis> amarok:
[12:43] <dr_Willis> i cant find any mms: streams that work in amarok
[12:44] <philsf> amarok in kubuntu currently (erm, since forever?) only supports xine. Could it be packaged to support another engine? (say, gstreamer?)
[12:45] <SPhcT> dr_Willis: the dont help for me
[12:46] <dr_Willis> SPhcT,  Huh?
[12:46] <dr_Willis> PhilRod,  yea it has a pulldown that just lists xine.
[12:46] <SPhcT> i am in website and i dont now which skype version i shold take..
[12:46] <dr_Willis> I dont know either. I dont use skype under Linux. I would say the newest one.
[12:47] <dr_Willis> actually i was thinking skype was at the medibuntu repositories also.
[12:47] <dr_Willis> skype - A VoIP software - Medibuntu package
[12:47] <dr_Willis> !medibuntu
[12:47] <dr_Willis> Easy way to install it. enable the medibuntu repos. and 'apt-get install skype'
[12:48] <philsf> SPhcT: using medibuntu as dr_Willis said is the best option, but getting from skype.com should work also
[12:50] <SPhcT> philsf: there is no version for kubuntu
[12:50] <dr_Willis> ubuntu, will also work. or debian may work
[12:50] <philsf> SPhcT: you can always assume ubuntu and kubuntu are the same thing (they are)
[12:51] <corsair__> can anyone tell me how to restart the sound server in hardy?
[12:51] <philsf> SPhcT: for the purposes of collecting external information/packages, that is
[12:52] <burov-art> lol
[12:52] <CostaRicanQuaker> help: i need to reinstall windows without it wiping ubuntu off and have it now wipe out grub
[12:53] <dr_Willis> windows will whipe out grub.. so you need to learn how to 'restore' the grub boot loader.   I think.
[12:54] <dr_Willis> having Linux on one hard drive. (not partition) and windows on a 2nd hard drive. makes this a bit easier.
[12:54] <dr_Willis> !restoregrub
[12:54] <dr_Willis> !fixgrub
[12:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> dr_Willis: which of those options is most recommendd
[12:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> to restore grub
[12:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> in your opinion for a beginner
[12:55] <CostaRicanQuaker> i have no second hard drive
[12:55] <dr_Willis> That howto is fairly clear. it will be worth wile for you to read the docs on the grub homepage and learn how grub does things.
[12:56] <dr_Willis> rember grub starts counting at 0. :) so the first hd will be hd0,  what partition is linux on right now? are you going to resize the hard drives?
[12:56] <CostaRicanQuaker> but which fo those is the best? i am thinking the run from within windows
[12:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> ok i'm on windows
[12:57] <CostaRicanQuaker> let me reboot in linux brb
[12:58] <rysiek|pl> guys, if I use XDMCP, where box A is the X server, and box B is the client, I understand that when I say fire up Konqueror at the home dir, I get to the home dir on the remote (i.e. box A) side?
[12:59] <dr_Willis> The apps run ON the remote box and are just 'shown' locally
[12:59] <dr_Willis> think of it as a very long extension cable  on the display. Heh
[12:59] <dr_Willis> Now ya can have apps running locally in addation to remotely
[13:00] <FoxIII> What can I type to find out specifically which version of KDE I'm using?
[13:01] <Jucato> FoxIII: it's kinda tricky, considering you can run KDE 3 apps in KDE 4 and vice versa. but basically, is your bottom panel a big black bar?
[13:02] <FoxIII> No.
[13:02] <FoxIII> I know I'm on kde3. Just wondered if there was a way I could tell on the CLI
[13:02] <philsf> FoxIII: dpkg -l some base package
[13:02] <Jucato> kde-config --version
[13:02] <philsf> or that
[13:02] <philsf> :)
[13:02] <FoxIII> okay. Thanks :)
[13:02] <corsair__> how can i remove a kernel module that thinks its in use?
[13:03] <philsf> corsair__: sometimes moprobe -r -f module works
[13:04] <corsair__> philsf: and in cases where it doesn't?
[13:04] <philsf> corsair__: then it's the time Mr. Gates chuckles
[13:04] <corsair__> fuck
[13:06] <Danger_XXX> hi everyone
[13:06] <Danger_XXX> is it worthy to install wine????
[13:07] <dr_Willis> Do you need to run windows apps?
[13:07] <dr_Willis> if so - yes.. if not - no.
[13:07] <Danger_XXX> it makes exe files to run in Kubuntu?
[13:08] <LeNood> Thats right.
[13:09] <dr_Willis> windows apps
[13:09] <dr_Willis> a .exe could be a dos progrm. :)
[13:09] <dr_Willis> dosbox for running dos games and stuff.
[13:09] <philsf> could also be mono (tomboy.exe)
[13:10] <dr_Willis> mono is a whole nother beast i think. :)
[13:10] <Danger_XXX> then for example i want to use Corel Draw in Kubuntu? will Wine be helpful?
[13:10] <philsf> sure it its. but also uses the same extension :)
[13:10] <philsf> Danger_XXX: not only helpful, but necessary
[13:11] <dr_Willis> is Corel Draw a 'windows app' ? if so.. then yes you need wine...
[13:11] <philsf> Danger_XXX: check apps.winehq.org
[13:11] <Jucato> *if* Wine can run it
[13:11] <Danger_XXX> it will install Corel Draw via setup file?
[13:11] <Jucato> you can ask also in #winehq
[13:12] <Danger_XXX> ok i am going to that channel bye
[13:17] <LeNood> After some updates yesterday, sounds stopped working.
[13:17] <LeNood> Where can I find list of those packages that were updated?
[13:17] <LeNood> I'm going to revert to the working ones.
[13:47] <vlad> Привет
[13:59] <el-> привет всем
[13:59] <el-> Русские есть.
[13:59] <el-> ?
[14:01] <Jucato> !ru | el-
[14:03] <el-> fank you
[14:07] <psyco> hey guys
[14:07] <psyco> Just a quick question,
[14:08] <Schorfi> quick!
[14:08] <psyco> can I delete a swap and then remake one that is a bit smaller :P
[14:08] <psyco> without screwing anything up
[14:08] <psyco> because windows wants system files on the primary hd.
[14:09] <psyco> OR, can I just switch the master to slave and the slave to master without screwing up linux?
[14:16] <version-next> how do i install VNC client
[14:22] <dthacker> !vnc
[14:24] <minhaaj> my browser won't display flash. i have removed flashblock and i have installed mozilla plugin for flash
[14:24] <version-next> !vncclient
[14:24] <minhaaj> any idea ?
[14:24] <minhaaj> !medibuntu
[14:26] <sonoftheclayr> I can't moun my external hard disk. I keep getting 'IsCallerPrivileged() failed'. Any help?
[14:26] <sonoftheclayr> mount*
[14:26] <minhaaj> did you try sudo ?
[14:26] <Doryian> how do i mount an dvd/cd image in linux? what is the virtual drive software?
[14:27] <sonoftheclayr> sudo mount /dev/sdb1 returns: mount: can't find /dev/sdb1 in ftab or mtab
[14:27] <sonoftheclayr> It doesn't work in KDE either
[14:27] <sonoftheclayr> Doryian: Is it an iso?
[14:27] <minhaaj> what do you want to do doryian ?
[14:28] <minhaaj> you can use k3b
[14:29] <Doryian> yes, it is an iso and i want to watch a dvd movie
[14:30] <Doryian> keb
[14:30] <Doryian> thanx
[14:31] <minhaaj> :)
[14:36] <francophile> hi alls, does anyone here have a clue how i can keep kwin window manager whilst adding compiz for the cube functionality?
[14:37] <francophile> normally compiz takes over all and leaves kde looking quite crippled
[14:41] <minhaaj> you can't francophile afaik
[14:41] <minhaaj> one at a time kwin or compiz
[14:41] <francophile> hmmz
[14:41] <francophile> that is disappointing... :)
[14:41] <sonoftheclayr> I can mount a CD fine but not my external hard disk
[14:47] <Doryian> i want to view someone's web cam and i have kopete; what do i have to install for kopete for this to work?
[14:48] <Doryian> pidgin does not support this feature
[14:48] <Doryian> at all
[14:48] <Doryian> kopete has it, but what is that thing that i have to install...is it jabber?
[14:48] <Doryian> or something like that
[14:49] <minhaaj> i think its cheese webcam or some package like that
[14:51] <Doryian> cheese ok :)
[14:51] <Doryian> thnx
[14:56] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[15:17] <heinkel_111> anyone with some NFS setup experience here?
[15:17] <heinkel_111> I am trying to follow this example:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto
[15:18] <heinkel_111> in the example the /etc/exports file has entries that look like this: /export       <IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,fsid=0,insecure,no_subtree_check,async)
[15:19] <heinkel_111> what is the /24 part about? where do I find what to put in there?
[15:19] <heinkel_111> what is 24? (the reverse of the answer to life the universe and everything?)
[15:20] <llp78> heinkel_111 ip's 0 to 24
[15:21] <heinkel_111> llp78: the ip is the range <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[15:21] <llp78> heinkel_111; yep
[15:22] <heinkel_111> llp78: thanksalot for the explanation, never seen that way before :-)
[15:22] <llp78> heinkel_111; no probs
[15:23] <heinkel_111> additional question... can I use hostnames from my /etc/hosts file instead of ip numbers?
[15:24] <heinkel_111> in the /etc/exports file?
[15:31] <Dragnslcr> heinkel_111, llp78- that's very wrong
[15:32] <Dragnslcr> The /24 is the number of bits specified. The first 24 bits would be the 192.168.1 part
[15:32] <Dragnslcr> The range of <IP_ADDRESS>/24 is <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:32] <heinkel_111> so any computer in the local net in other words
[15:33] <Dragnslcr> Not necessarily
[15:33] <Dragnslcr> <IP_ADDRESS>/16 is reserved for local use
[15:33] <heinkel_111> ok
[15:34] <heinkel_111> but as I only want my linux machines to see this, doesnt it make sense to use the hostnames instead of IP ranges?
[15:34] <Dragnslcr> There are other blocks reserved for local use as well. I think all of <IP_ADDRESS>/8 is
[15:35] <Dragnslcr> It's probably easier to use hostnames, but you'd have to make sure that either the names resolve to the correct IP addresses or they're all using NetBIOS names
[15:40] <dthacker> subnets: http://www.pantz.org/software/tcpip/subnetchart.html
[15:42] <heinkel_111> Dragnslcr, dthacker: thank you
[15:42] <dthacker> np :)
[15:47] <verduz> I'm going to install kubuntu 8.04 on a 64bit machine (AMD Turion 64). I'm thinking about installing the 64 bit version but I'm scared about the incompatibilies with Flash and Skype. What should I do?
[15:50] <mueslix> not bother with 64 bit yet ;-)
[15:50] <mueslix> you can run a 64 bit kernel tho and have a 32bit userland
[15:56] <verduz> mueslix, what do you mean with " you can run a 64 bit kernel tho and have a 32bit userland"?
[15:59] <mueslix> you can mix 64 bit and 32 bit software
[15:59] <mueslix> running a 64 bit kernel but keep using your 32bit packages
[15:59] <mueslix> it's a bit tricky to setup
[15:59] <mueslix> in general i really suggest to not bother switching to 64bit yet
[16:00] <mueslix> verduz: do  you have more than 4gb of ram?
[16:00] <verduz> No, I have only 1GB
[16:00] <mueslix> verduz: not worth then. 64bit will just be slower
[16:01] <mueslix> it only makes sense in rare cases. when one app alone needs more than 4gb of memory e.g.
[16:01] <verduz> Ok, I'll install a 32 bit. Thanks
[16:02] <mueslix> verduz: gives you an idea: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=616&num=1
[16:02] <richard_> hi
[16:03] <richard_> quick question - ive just upgraded to hardy - is it right that once ive typed in my password, the box that used to have the line of icons across it as the desktop loaded no longer appears?
[16:09] <misterio> hola
[16:09] <misterio> utiizo kubuntu 8.04 remix
[16:10] <misterio> me gustaria saber si he hecho mal
[16:10] <Jucato> !es | misterio
[16:10] <misterio> ya que  estaba kubuntu lts
[16:11] <verduz> mueslix: that's interesting. But I think I can survive with a 32 bit system... Thanks
[16:11] <mueslix> verduz: right now it's the better solution really.
[16:12] <mueslix> see those benchmarks, except compiling most things are just slower
[16:12] <mueslix> it'll make sense in the future
[16:16] <richard__> hello?#
[16:19] <tosha> привет
[16:20] <ben__> Can anyone tell me how to add more sides to the desktop cube with compiz?
[16:21] <tosha> люди, плиз, хелп - как сменть кодировку в IRC?
[16:22] <pag> !ru | tosha
[16:23] <pag> ben__, iirc you can doi it in ccsm under general settings
[16:24] <ben__> Its the option under the desktop size tab right?
[16:25] <pag> ben__, might be.. I haven't touched Compiz in a while.. :)
[16:25] <ibou> i ve just downloaded a special iso for usb key (bootable). Should i mount it and copy the contents in my key or just copy the iso file ??
[16:26] <ben__> This is the first time I've had my hands on a PC in over a year so I'm a little rusty. I keep changing that option and it snaps back to 1. I have 2 desktops, but I would like 4
[16:29] <CostaRicanQuake> help
[16:29] <CostaRicanQuake> i downloaded the super grub disk whatever icon
[16:29] <CostaRicanQuake> clicked on it
[16:30] <CostaRicanQuake> this is after reinstalling windows
[16:30] <CostaRicanQuake> and i ranthe program
[16:30] <CostaRicanQuake> when i rebooted it only listed unetobootin(sp) and windows
[16:30] <CostaRicanQuake> when i clicked on the one that wasnt windows it only checked for grub being htere or something along those lines
[16:30] <CostaRicanQuake> but it didnt list ubuntu linux
[16:32] <CostaRicanQuake> then when i rebooted i got a popup asking me if i wanted to remove UNetbootin
[16:32] <CostaRicanQuake> so what do i do now?
[16:32] <CostaRicanQuake> to be able to boot on ubuntu again
[16:33] <Roey> http://rafb.net/p/XFG7oc75.html  <--- I keep getting this error when I try to launch an xterm when su-ing to anohter user.  What gives??
[16:39] <CostaRicanQuake> then when i rebooted i got a popup asking me if i wanted to remove UNetbootin
[16:39] <CostaRicanQuake> when i clicked on the one that wasnt windows it only checked for grub being htere or something along those lines
[16:40] <CostaRicanQuake> help i went here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows downloaded supergrub disk
[16:40] <CostaRicanQuake> ran it and grub never showed up when choosing unetbootin
[16:52] <cabrera-velasco> Popayán
[16:52] <cabrera-velasco> necesito una ayudibiris
[16:52] <BluesKaj> !es
[16:57] <munk_> Can someone help me? my wireless connection keeps dieing and if i reconnect it works until 10 seconds of no activity or something...i dont even know how to approach this....
[17:00] <ReckaH> do you connect whit wlanassist or true console?
[17:02] <ReckaH> munk_: do in console sudo iwconfig <wifiapparaat> essid "<jouw ss-id>" key "<jouw key>
[17:03] <ReckaH> then do dhcpcd <wifidevice>
[17:09] <richard> how do I use strigi?
[17:16] <jonah> hey guys adept is not showing the 8.04.1 update even when i press fetch updates. how do i upgrade?
[17:18] <ziggy> sudo apt-get distro-upgrade?
[17:18] <ziggy> dont know
[17:18] <ziggy> dont use *buntu
[17:18] <ziggy> just wasting your time
[17:19] <jonah> nah dist-upgrade not working...
[17:21] <Githzerai> jonah: lsb_release -a
[17:23] <jonah> Githzerai: it says no LSB modules are available. then says ID Ubuntu, Discription Ubuntu 8.04.1 Release 8.04 Codename Hardy
[17:24] <Githzerai> jonah: yes, so u have 8.04.1. Problem solved ;)
[17:24] <jonah> Githzerai: nice one!
[17:24] <jonah> thanks
[17:24] <Githzerai> jonah: ;)
[17:26] <prece> hii
[17:26] <prece> oiii
[17:27] <dr-root> نوف
[17:28] <dr-root> ok bye bye
[17:32] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me troubleshoot a wireless problem?  I was using my laptop at a conference this past week and now I cannot connect to my home wifi.  Kwifimanger can see my network, but just doesn't connect.
[17:42] <chidi> can sumbody help me with upgade from 7.10 to 8.04
[17:46] <np_laptop> I just installed some new hardware and I'm trying to connect to the net (via eth0) but apparently, eth0 doesn't exist anymore. How would I figure out which devices are present and how would I go about activating them?
[17:49] <BluesKaj> np_laptop, in the terminal , lspci , look for ethernet controller or something similar
[17:50] <BluesKaj> !upgrade | chidi
[17:50] <np_laptop> BluesKaj, yeah. I found it. It is eth2 now hehe. A simple eth2 up and some basic configuration and it is working now. Thanks
[17:50] <BluesKaj> good . np_laptop :)
[17:50] <np_laptop> heh :)
[17:53] <BluesKaj> nick presta ?
[17:54] <np_laptop> that's me
[17:54] <BluesKaj> yeah, thought so
[17:54] <np_laptop> on my little Dell Latitude D600.
[17:55] <DonConradioni> can anyone help me with k3b? i cannot burn
[17:55] <np_laptop> DonConradioni, more fire :)
[17:55] <DonConradioni> lol
[17:55] <DonConradioni> thanks
[17:55] <np_laptop> what sort of problems are you having?
[17:55] <DonConradioni> i have the debug report
[17:55] <DonConradioni> forward to you via p2p?
[17:56] <np_laptop> DonConradioni, pastebin it
[17:56] <np_laptop> !pastebin
[17:56] <vipex> Is there any programs like limewire to kubuntu/ubuntu
[17:56] <np_laptop> vipex, frostwire
[17:56] <np_laptop> !frostwire > vipex
[17:56] <NiKeCRu666> vipex, amule
[17:57] <NiKeCRu666> vipex: aMule
[17:57] <DonConradioni> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25219/
[17:58] <np_laptop> DonConradioni, it says it cannot write to that medium - incompatible format. What are you trying to burn ( and to what medium?)
[18:01] <DonConradioni> ISO
[18:01] <DonConradioni> i'm trying to burn the new distro
[18:02] <np_laptop> on a CD or DVD?
[18:02] <DonConradioni> CD
[18:06] <anabelle> Im using PPPOECONF to set up an ADSL connection, and it hangs at 100% detecting eth0
[18:06] <anabelle> it's been in 100% for 12 hours now!!!!!
[18:06] <anabelle> what can I do?
[18:10] <helpplz> can anyone hellp me turn up my sound on linux i am new to it.
[18:13] <qwerty> i am using kde4 newest version and i want to use compiz there are ati 8.6 drivers out should i just use ati's installer to install them
[18:15] <millun> hi, i am having big troubles with our crappy distro
[18:16] <millun> it freezes for a few minutes every ... few minutes :)
[18:16] <BluesKaj> qwerty, ask in #kubuntu-kde4
[18:17] <millun> anybody experienced that?
[18:21] <JuJuBee> np_laptop : do ifconfig and it will show you the ifaces
[18:21] <CostaRicanQuake> can someone help me here?
[18:21] <CostaRicanQuake> i ask as in
[18:21] <JuJuBee> sorry if someone else already answered that, I just saw it while looking for an answer to my post
[18:21] <CostaRicanQuake> as opposed to yonder in ubuntu
[18:22] <darkside_> i could use some help getting my graphics card to work im new to ubuntu
[18:29] <vipex> Does anyone know any programs what are playing  mp3 musics
[18:29] <vipex> sorry my bad english.
[18:30] <chidi> u can use amarok
[18:30] <vipex> how?
[18:30] <vipex> its not working
[18:30] <chidi> its d default music player for kubuntu
[18:31] <mitsarionas> you mean that you oopen an mp3 with amarok and it says mp3 is not supported?
[18:31] <chidi> wen u try 2 play mp3 files it shud tell u dowload libxine1-ffmpeg,click yes
[18:32] <vipex> yh mitsarionas
[18:33] <mitsarionas> should be what chidi says... however if you click no once it might not show this dialog again...
[18:33] <mitsarionas> maybe apt-get that package...
[18:35] <chidi> apt-getin d package mit not work cos i tried it
[18:35] <chidi> use the pop-up its d best way
[18:36] <chidi> bye yall c ya sum otha tym
[18:37] <mitsarionas> does the popup appear?
[18:38] <rootadmin> privet
[18:40] <vipex> Error Loading Mediafile There is no available decoder:///usr/share/apps/amarok/data/Amarok_1.4_Welcome.ogg
[18:40] <vipex> that it  says when im playing something
[18:43] <vipex> [20:43:04] You do not have the appropriate Gstreamer plugin installed to play this file: file:///home/vipex/Desktop/pulse.mp3
[18:46] <vipex> can i have finnish irc channel please
[18:47] <vipex> wooohoooooooo aanyoneeeeeeee here?
[18:47] <vipex> i need #kubuntu.fi channel link
[18:47] <vipex> yeh
[18:47] <vipex> thx for me
[18:48] <vipex> #kubntu.r
[18:50] <timri> Peeter Vähi's concerto piccolo
[19:01] <ubuntu> dewgad
[19:10] <frankie123> what version of kde is on the latest CD ?
[19:14] <Betus> as I see the ink level of my cx5600?
[19:14] <mado> hello guys ...
[19:14] <mado> i can't install kubuntu 8.04 on a laptop ...
[19:14] <timri> mado: Hi (that's guys and gals btw)
[19:14] <mado> whenever i choose "install kubuntu" the screen turns black ...
[19:15] <mado> timri, ... sorry ... i thought "guys" was for male and female :)
[19:15] <mado> then hi guys and gals :)
[19:15] <timri> mado: heh, no problem :) Have you tried safe video option when starting ?
[19:15] <calliphora> Betus, try mtink
[19:15] <mado> yes timri
[19:16] <mado> i also tried to use the alternate-cd
[19:16] <mado> and i tried to start "knoppix" ...
[19:16] <mado> nothing worked
[19:16] <mado> it's frustrating
[19:16] <timri> mado: You got a black screen with the alternate CD ? Whoa ! that's a first for me (sadly)
[19:16] <mado> well ... not all black ...
[19:16] <mado> a small dot ... like this one "." is red :)
[19:17] <mado> and that's all i can see :)
[19:17] <BluesKaj> mado , did you try windows ? ...thinking you may have more probs than are apparent
[19:17] <mado> windows? ... like in microsoft windows? ...
[19:17] <mado> BluesKaj, ... yes that works ...
[19:17] <mado> but i need linux too
[19:17] <BluesKaj> ok
[19:17] <mado> it's not my computer ... it's one of my friends ... and he needs it
[19:18] <BluesKaj> well, coud be the hardware, not being recognized ...tell us about the laptop
[19:18] <mado> ok ... from what i know ...
[19:18] <mado> amd x2 processor
[19:19] <mado> geforce go 6100 graphics card
[19:19] <mado> real tek sound card
[19:19] <mado> 2 gb ram
[19:19] <mado> 120 gb hard disk
[19:19] <mado> what else do you need to know?
[19:20] <timri> mado: Brand and model please
[19:20] <mado> timri, ... ok ... let's see ... just a sec
[19:20]  * timri hears sounds of laptop turning
[19:23]  * timri hears sounds of laptop crashing and burning
[19:23] <BluesKaj> it runs windows , timri
[19:23] <timri> BluesKaj: Just feeling poetic today ;)
[19:23] <BluesKaj> right :)
[19:24] <mado> a pity ... i can't really see something that looks like a brand i recognize ...
[19:24] <mado> but ...
[19:24] <mado> "style note" is written on the top of it
[19:24] <mado> yeah ... looks like this is the brand
[19:25] <mado> model ... "M66JE" is written on the back
[19:26] <virnik> hi there, after today's upgrade, I cant use compiz. it will not start, and emerald theme decorator too. can somebody help me out?
[19:27] <mado> so now what BluesKaj and timri ?
[19:28] <timri> mado: This may be beynd my problem solving capabilties
[19:28] <timri> *beyond
[19:28] <Doryian> how can i un-rar rar files in kubuntu??
[19:28] <virnik> rar x file
[19:28] <virnik> install rar
[19:28] <virnik> or unrar
[19:28] <mado> ok ... i see
[19:28] <Doryian> ok...and nothing
[19:28] <timri> mado: Google suggests the make is "novatech" (hope this helps someone)
[19:29] <mado> novatech?
[19:29] <mado> what did you write to google to get this answer?
[19:29] <BluesKaj> never heard of "style note" , it has to be a subset name for a large mfg like Lenovo or some such.
[19:30] <mado> i will tell my friend to ask the shopkeeper :)
[19:30] <timri> Doryian: p7 can unrar too (sudo aptitude install p7zip-rar)
[19:31] <virnik> hm
[19:31] <timri> mado: Yeah. It's a very _very_ rare problem
[19:31] <virnik> gonna update nvidia drivers, madwifi drivers, and switch to new kernel
[19:31] <virnik> lets see if it helps
[19:31] <Doryian> thanx timri
[19:35] <StevenX> Hello all. Can someone give me a link to get compiz-fusion working on kubuntu? I have installed the nvidia drivers and they are up and running.
[19:35] <mado> so timri ... what do you suggest i should do?
[19:36] <petgrill> hi there :). i want to install GimpShop but whenever i type the 'make' command i get "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop." error can anyone help me??
[19:40] <timri> mado: I dunno. Keep using Microsoft Windows? I cannot help you, sorry.
[19:41] <virnik> lol
[19:41] <virnik> now it works like charm
[19:41] <jhutchins> !find gimpshop
[19:41] <virnik> I had to switch to new kernel
[19:41] <virnik> and new nvidia too
[19:41] <virnik> madwifi is part of kernel at least...I mean madwifi with ar5007
[19:53] <timz1m> i dont get the flashplayerplugon running on kde3
[19:57] <darkstrange> what is that
[20:02] <BluesKaj> timz1m, do you mean flashplugin-nonfree ?
[20:03] <timz1m> i just installed kubuntu and i cant play for example youtubevideos
[20:08] <nosrednaekim> then yes, you want flashplugin-nonfree
[20:09] <timz1m> yes
[20:10] <scsi_> ы
[20:10] <timz1m> thx
[20:12] <genii> !ru | scsi_
[20:17] <latous> hello there
[20:18] <latous> i want to ask some questions cause i'm new in kubuntu
[20:18] <latous> may i do?
[20:19] <latous> none there?
[20:19] <latous> eh?
[20:22] <latous> hi
[20:22] <nosrednaekim> ask away :)
[20:22] <minhaaj> can anyone help me back up ? i have never been able to back up my ubuntu
[20:22] <minhaaj> :s
[20:23] <latous> ok
[20:23] <latous> first of all
[20:24] <latous> i have warcraft III in pc
[20:24] <latous> how do i install it
[20:24] <latous> ?
[20:24] <dr_Willis> Learn about WINE.
[20:25] <dr_Willis> !wine
[20:25] <minhaaj> dr_Willis:  help me back up
[20:25] <minhaaj> ?
[20:25] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  i rarely backup a whole system. I just archive my /home to a usb hard drive.
[20:25] <latous> lemmie see
[20:26] <dr_Willis> !backup
[20:26] <minhaaj> just tar.gz it and paste it to usb ?
[20:26] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  thats one of a dozen ways to do it.
[20:26] <dr_Willis> I dont even tar.gz it.
[20:26] <latous> i have kubuntu not ubuntu any differences practicaly?
[20:26] <nosrednaekim> !kubuntu
[20:27] <minhaaj> simple copy paste ?
[20:27] <minhaaj> i tried that once, got everything back including desktop, themes and configs, but i got a lot of errors because of broken links to etc and var
[20:27] <minhaaj> because you haven't backed up etc and var at the same time
[20:28] <minhaaj> now i have aptoncd that would install most packages i use. if i install all packages and then overwrite home, will i get everything back without erros ?
[20:32] <latous> ok now i cant understand how i instal wine
[20:32] <DarkriftX> apt-get install wine
[20:32] <DarkriftX> lol
[20:33] <latous> what?
[20:33] <latous> actualy this is the first time i run linux
[20:33] <Milamber> nice man! first step to heaven
[20:33] <latous> talk like i'm stupid guys
[20:34] <nosrednaekim> latous: run this in a terminal "sudo apt-get install wine"
[20:34] <latous> what's a terminal?
[20:34] <Milamber> just run command konsole
[20:34] <Milamber> right click -> run command
[20:34] <Milamber> type in konsole
[20:35] <vipex> hey can i have the link to finnish channel
[20:35] <minhaaj> whats terminal ?
[20:35] <latous> i did
[20:35] <minhaaj> latous, there is a very good thing called 'help file' in linux
[20:35] <minhaaj> dont be afraid to use it
[20:36] <minhaaj> :)
[20:36] <anethum_a> hey guys ive got a situation here and would like some input/opinions on what to do.
[20:36] <Milamber> great now you see command line in your konsole ?
[20:36] <vipex> can i have link to finnish irc client
[20:36] <minhaaj> actually terminal IS the whole linux
[20:36] <Milamber> minhaaj: i dont think so
[20:36] <minhaaj> vipex, you can get linus torvalds to help you in finland
[20:36] <minhaaj> jk :)
[20:36] <minhaaj> Milamber: geek talk dude.
[20:36] <minhaaj> cli is everything
[20:37] <anethum_a> see, im working on my music library and i have about 2000 songs in .m4a format and about 1000 in .wma format
[20:37] <latous> i dont see anything
[20:37] <latous> nothing changed
[20:37] <Milamber> any new window ?
[20:37] <Milamber> called konsole ?
[20:37] <latous> no new window
[20:37] <vipex> minjaah linus?
[20:37] <minhaaj> ok dont worry latous try alt+f
[20:37] <anethum_a> my entire library is nicely organized into Artist/Album folders
[20:37] <minhaaj> the founder of linux vipex
[20:37] <minhaaj> alt+f2
[20:37] <anethum_a> and so i need to convert these files without losing tags and folder structure
[20:38] <anethum_a> to .mp3
[20:38] <Milamber> amarok may be helpful
[20:39] <anethum_a> actually, its proving not to be as helpful as you would think, i can't seem to be able to convert files without losing tags, it just names the output file as -.mp3
[20:40] <latous> sudo apt-get install wine u said?
[20:40] <javi> why u want wine for?
[20:40] <anethum_a> ive been mulling over the best way to do this for a while thought i would get some input from you guys
[20:40] <latous> to install a game actualy
[20:40] <javi> what game?
[20:40] <latous> and to be able to run most of windows programs i suppose
[20:41] <latous> the game is called "Warcraft III"
[20:41] <richard> hi
[20:41] <minhaaj> latous you won't be able to configure wine
[20:41] <javi> have u tested it on wine?
[20:41] <minhaaj> since you dont even know aout terminal
[20:41] <latous> i dont have wine yet!
[20:41] <javi> jaja, then apt-get install wine
[20:42] <anethum_a> right now, the way i'm probably going to go with is to import my entire library onto a windows box with itunes and let itunes convert everything for me, since itunes has the same idea as i do in mind about keeping everything organized
[20:42] <richard> ive tried to mount a shared folder from a windows box by editing the etc/fstab file, but i can only see the files if i use kdesu to open dolphin. is there any way around this?
[20:42] <ben__> Anyone know if I can apt-get code::blocks?
[20:42] <javi> I've used Starcraft on wine
[20:42] <anethum_a> but i was hoping there was a way to do this on linux, but i cant seem to find a good solution
[20:43] <javi> it works fine
[20:43] <latous> ok i managed to opoen a terminal file!
[20:43] <latous> now?
[20:44] <javi> no, now I can't enough time to play games
[20:44] <anethum_a> wow, looks like you guys got your handful, i'll not bother you with petty music format problems then ;)
[20:44] <dr_Willis> I rarely worry about music. :)
[20:45] <dr_Willis> I keep my tunes in a simple directory structure and tahts about it.
[20:45] <javi> somebody has problems to see photos on a ipod nano?
[20:45] <latous> ok guys i need someone to teack me the basics so plz gimmie and email so i can add u in messenger plz!
[20:45] <latous> teach*
[20:46] <dr_Willis> basics of what?
[20:46] <javi> I load photos to ipod with gtkpod
[20:46] <ben__> What basics do you want to know?
[20:46] <latous> linux
[20:46] <latous> i know nothing of them
[20:46] <dr_Willis> latous,  time to start reading some guides/docs/books  ask here for clarification.
[20:46] <dr_Willis> start with bash shell tutorials.
[20:46] <dr_Willis> !bash
[20:46] <latous> ok suggest something then
[20:46] <javi> then I can see photos on thunimbal but I can't see it at fullscreen
[20:46] <latous> thnx
[20:46] <dr_Willis> And then theres the Ubuntu Traning books. (a little out of date)
[20:47] <dr_Willis> !training
[20:47] <nkn> hey any one who can use latest vuze on ubuntu/kubuntu
[20:47] <dr_Willis> and LEARN TO USE GOOGLE. :)
[20:47] <dr_Willis> vuze? Hmm not tried that lately.. heh
[20:47] <nkn> i mean azureus
[20:47] <ben__> There is a endless supply of information, tutorials, and documents on linix and its various GUI's just type what you want in google, you'll find the answer
[20:48] <nkn> azureus 3.1
[20:48] <dr_Willis> nkn yea. :) i havent messed with it lately. seems easier to find videos othe rways.
[20:48] <javi> use aMule
[20:48] <javi> or bittorrent
[20:49] <dr_Willis> getting where a lot of these big TV sites have plenty of shows one can watch legally! *Ghasp*
[20:49] <dr_Willis> :)
[20:49] <nkn> amule ?
[20:49] <minhaaj> dr willis i can't copy paste my home directory into usb
[20:49] <nkn> its a bittorrent client?
[20:50] <minhaaj> it gives permission errors. do you know a sudo command for that that creates a home folder in usb and copies all contents ?
[20:51] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  well #1 - what filesystem is the Usb drive..
[20:51] <javi> amule is like emule
[20:51] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  if you make it ext2/3 and make a directory thats owned by the user, that user will be able to have full acess to that directory.
[20:51] <minhaaj> how do i do that ?
[20:52] <minhaaj> does this mean i need to format it with ext3 and remove all data ?
[20:52] <dr_Willis> format the usb drive to be ext3, make a directory (as root) and then chown the directory.
[20:52] <minhaaj> how do you own directory ?
[20:52] <dr_Willis> thats how I do it normally.. what you want to do.. depends, on what you really want to do.
[20:52] <dr_Willis> 'chown'
[20:52] <dr_Willis> !chown
[20:52] <javi> from linux system u can read/write many file systems
[20:53] <javi> ext2  ext3 fat16 fat32 ntfs journal ...
[20:53] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  or just archive the users whole home directory to a tar.gz and have root copy it over to the thumbdrive.
[20:53] <dr_Willis> or mount the thumbdrive in such a way that the users have full permissions to it. if its using vfat.
[20:53] <minhaaj> i am not getting it. do you have sudo commands for it ?
[20:54] <javi> if u want see a manual of a command type man  before the command in the terminal
[20:54] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  depends on what you want to do exactly..
[20:54] <javi> example: man chown
[20:54] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  thers no 'magic command to do what you want'  - it all depwends on the specifics
[20:54] <minhaaj> i dont know what filesystem usb is using. plus it won't be detected in windows if i format it to ext3
[20:54] <minhaaj> i did tell you what i want
[20:54] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  its using vfat most likely.. if you dont want to format it.. then you have the other 2 options
[20:55] <dr_Willis> archive the home, and  either have root copy  the file to the thumb drive.. or give full access to the drive for the users.
[20:55] <minhaaj> tell me how to give full access to the drive for the users ?
[20:56] <minhaaj> do i have to archive home if can give access to users ?
[20:56] <dr_Willis> I thought the thing should of automounted that way allready. Not sure why some people have issues with some external devices
[20:56] <minhaaj> i have no idea. i have literally screwed up ubuntu 10 times while backing up
[20:56] <dr_Willis> You will want to archive the home anyway. due to filesystem differances. copying files to vfat will lose some of their permissions and other features.
[20:56] <minhaaj> and i won't stop until i back up
[20:57] <minhaaj> hmm how do i check archive integrity if it has copied ALL files without skipping things
[20:57] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  sound lik eyou should be spending more time learning the basics of linux.. then worrying about backups of a  system taht is just been installed.
[20:57] <nkn> is amule better than vuze ??
[20:57] <dr_Willis> On a clean new install the users home will be rather.. empty.
[20:57] <minhaaj> ahhh
[20:57] <dr_Willis> so whats the point in backing it up. :)
[20:58] <minhaaj> i want to back up because i have all the programs and configs on it
[20:58] <minhaaj> its NOT clean new install
[20:58] <dr_Willis> Those are NOT  all in the users home dirs.
[20:58] <dr_Willis> If you want to backup the whole system.. thats a different matter. :)
[20:59] <minhaaj> well i have aptoncd that backs up packages
[20:59] <dr_Willis> I dont worry about the programs/configs much. the ones I customize i do manually backup. like /etc/samba/* and /etc/hosts and a few others.
[20:59] <dr_Willis> aptoncd just backyups what you have downloaded...  ie: it backups the /var/cache/apt dir. Ibelive. thats it.
[20:59] <minhaaj> so i can actually install them again. i just need to keep my configs and settings for desktop and programs
[20:59] <minhaaj> once the paths are made, i guess home directory overwriting would make sense
[21:00] <minhaaj> yea after you install them it goes into right paths into etc and var and others so that when i restore home, it doesnt get broken links
[21:00] <minhaaj> you understand?
[21:02] <dr_Willis> You may want to look in to a system 'clone' tools to totally archvie the whole system to cd/dvd so you can just pop in the disks and restore to a given state.
[21:03] <minhaaj> whoa
[21:03] <minhaaj> like norton ghost ?
[21:03] <dr_Willis> theres also other more user-friendly backup tools out as well.
[21:03] <dr_Willis> !mondo
[21:03] <dr_Willis> !backup
[21:03] <dr_Willis> !cloning
[21:04] <dr_Willis> MondoMindi let you generate a 'clone the system' dvd set.
[21:04] <minhaaj> huh ?
[21:04] <minhaaj> what was that dpkg again :S
[21:04] <TheKiNG|Spare> how do you dual boot XP and Kubuntu on seperate HDD's?
[21:05] <dr_Willis> for pc #1 - you can get a list of the packages installed.. and make the same ones get installed on the other pcs that way.
[21:05] <dr_Willis> TheKiNG|Spare,  just set up grub to boot the other os.
[21:05] <minhaaj> thats what aptoncd does
[21:05] <dr_Willis> TheKiNG|Spare,  normally you set the system to boot whatever HD linux has
[21:05] <dr_Willis> !aptoncd
[21:05] <minhaaj> although i dont know how to add incremental packages in it
[21:05] <BluesKaj> I just used GParted to copy a windows partition to new HDD for my wife's pc. It fine altho I had to reactivate the partition and rescue the MBR with Super Grub Disk.
[21:05] <TheKiNG|Spare> so... XP first, then kubuntu
[21:06] <BluesKaj> yup
[21:06] <dr_Willis> aptoncd - just archives the files you have DOWNLOADED.. that clone trick does not archive the packages.. it  replicated what ones you have installed.. they get redownloaded.
[21:06] <dr_Willis> TheKiNG|Spare,  thats the easy way.
[21:06] <dr_Willis> TheKiNG|Spare,  install xp to hd #1 first, then ubuntu to hd #2.  it should see/setup grub.
[21:06] <TheKiNG|Spare> okay/
[21:06] <minhaaj> oh ... so mondomindi makes an image of exactly everything ?
[21:07] <dr_Willis> it generates a bootable cd/dvd set of disks that you boot and it 'restores' the whole system
[21:07] <dr_Willis> it can do minor changes also. like partition size changes and so forth.
[21:08] <dr_Willis> I have not used it in years.. :) not sure how smart/better it is these days.
[21:09] <minhaaj> gawd mondo is even harder
[21:09] <dr_Willis> Its a powerfull tool.
[21:09] <minhaaj> wonder if it works on hardy too
[21:10] <minhaaj> for power users
[21:10] <dr_Willis> Thers proberly a dozen other tools out that can do similer things.
[21:10] <dr_Willis> 'apt-cache search backup' and see
[21:10] <minhaaj> i have tried 10 of them atleast
[21:10] <minhaaj> nothing seems to work
[21:11] <dr_Willis> I imagine the problem is more of learning to use the tools..
[21:11] <minhaaj> yea but i wonder why dont they have an interactive and easy back up tool as yet
[21:11] <minhaaj> as in built-in tool
[21:11] <dr_Willis> if you had a spare machine networked you could 'dd' the whole hd to a file.
[21:12] <dr_Willis> Most 'people' arcive a specific set  of configs and other specific dirs.   if the system gets totally trashed they reinstall, and restore those configs
[21:12] <latous> how do i add the repository to my system's list of APT sources?
[21:12] <latous> some instructions say thay i must do this
[21:13] <dr_Willis> theres backing up from a 'admin's' point of view.. then the 'users' point of view. :)
[21:13] <crimsun> that's where using bzr/svn/git for ~/.* and /etc is good.
[21:13] <minhaaj> thats what i want. i loved the way things were in windows using norton ghost
[21:13] <minhaaj> there should be a norton ghost for linux. its awesome. get back you system in 5 minutes
[21:13] <dr_Willis> Ghost was a waste of $$$ for my system.. it wouldent even work right.. then nortons wanted more $$ for the next version that came4 out a week later... all i can say is *#$*@&*@*@* nortons
[21:13] <dr_Willis> !info g4l
[21:14] <minhaaj> heeh i never paid for it
[21:14] <latous> anyone to anwser my question?
[21:14] <minhaaj> it worked great for me.
[21:14] <dr_Willis> G4L is a hard disk and partition imaging and cloning tool. The created images are optionally compressed and transferred to an FTP server instead of cloning locally.
[21:14] <dr_Willis> g4l = a take on the name 'ghost 4 linux'   but they cant use the name ghost
[21:14] <minhaaj> i want to usb, not ftp
[21:14] <dr_Willis> how big is your usb thing anyway>?
[21:15] <dr_Willis> reread what it said...  also.
[21:15] <dr_Willis> it most likely can archive to about anything/place ya got.
[21:15] <minhaaj> 8 gb
[21:16] <rysiek|pl> guys, lil' help with ssh publickey auth? I generated the keys, put id_dsa.pub in ~/.ssh/authorised_keys on the remote server and I am still prompted for user's (not key's...) password
[21:16] <dr_Willis> My current ubuntu install is hitting 3o+gb. :) i got 8+gb in just wallpaper. :)
[21:16] <dr_Willis> partimage - backup partitions into a compressed image file.
[21:17] <minhaaj> whoa
[21:17] <dr_Willis> Hmm.. ya could backup your whole system. compressed perhaps to a single file. :)
[21:17] <dr_Willis> amazing what you can find in the repos.
[21:17] <minhaaj> how do you restore it ?
[21:17] <dr_Willis> I would have to say with  the partimage tools....
[21:17] <rysiek|pl> dr_Willis: meh, I use dd if=/dev/sda | bzip2 | nc my_server some_port for that ;)
[21:17] <dr_Willis> time to check their docs.. :)
[21:18] <rysiek|pl> dr_Willis: from a LiveCD that is ;)
[21:18] <dr_Willis> rysiek|pl,  i think if yu set the blocksize..you may gain some speed. :)
[21:18] <minhaaj> lol
[21:18] <minhaaj> on it drwillis
[21:18] <dr_Willis> rysiek|pl,  we had a discussion on that once in here.
[21:18] <rysiek|pl> dr_Willis: yeah, I do, and I start nc -l -p some_port on the server side, too, but that was implicit ;)
[21:18] <dr_Willis> cat/dd/cp and how block size affected the stuff
[21:19] <dr_Willis> I just backup my /home and do a clean reinstall if i trash the system. :P
[21:19] <dr_Willis> often i do a clean reinstall just when new releases come out.. to test them out.
[21:19] <rysiek|pl> dr_Willis: well, I tested it live on 10+ workstations, daisy-chained with tee and nc for restoring the images
[21:19] <dr_Willis> rysiek|pl,  i think thats the sort of setuo mondo is also good for.
[21:20] <dr_Willis> but i rarely use these tools any more. :)
[21:20] <cyberponix> doesone have any advise for setting up wifi on a toshiba laptop?
[21:20] <dr_Willis> Backups are for wimps! :) well i do backup all data to external usb drives.
[21:20] <dr_Willis> cyberponix,  it will TOTALLY depend on the exact chipset of wireless in that laptop.
[21:20] <rysiek|pl> dr_Willis: technically, it wasn't ment to be a backup
[21:20] <dr_Willis> !wireless
[21:21] <cyberponix> Atheros 802.11 b/g
[21:21] <minhaaj> you simply copy paste home in clean installation ?
[21:21] <rysiek|pl> dr_Willis: it was ment to be an image of clean, but feature-rich and fully configured, system install to be placed on new workstations, and workstations the student's borked ;)
[21:21] <rysiek|pl> *students
[21:21] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  i dont normally use the gui file manager. :) i tend to use mc in a terminal.
[21:22] <minhaaj> mc ?
[21:22] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  and yes. i normally have a archive of my /home/willis dir. on a thumbdrive i can just copy over.
[21:22] <dr_Willis> tip #29498232    use '/msg ubottu  !info mc' or other package/tool name for info. :)
[21:22] <minhaaj> when you have to restore you jsut un tar it in clean installation ?
[21:22] <dr_Willis> !info mc
[21:23] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  i dont even untar it.. my thimbdrive is in ext3 format.
[21:23] <dr_Willis> its just a bunch of .configs and my bin dir. and wallpaper dir.. mainly
[21:23] <minhaaj> hmm
[21:23] <minhaaj> thats motivating me to ext3 my usb
[21:23] <dr_Willis> Hmm G4L has a --> A drive can be cloned using the "Click'n'Clone" function.
[21:23] <dr_Willis> Nifty.
[21:24] <rysiek|pl> anywhoo, any ideas why ssh pubkey auth might not work? I just generated new'n'shiny (oooh, shiny!) id_dsa and id_dsa.pub keys, and put id_dsa.pub on the server side
[21:24] <minhaaj> but i still have reservations. atleast i have some back up on usb, if i screw up i'd even lose that
[21:24] <dr_Willis> such a cute name.
[21:24] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  im amazed that you can manage to mess so much stuff up.
[21:24] <rysiek|pl> in the output of ssh -vv I can see the key being offered, but nothing happens - and then I get a standard password prompt
[21:24] <dr_Willis> causeing more damage by trying to backup things.. then the backup would  be able to protect..  :)
[21:25] <minhaaj> i dont dr willi
[21:25] <minhaaj> i just test alot.
[21:25] <minhaaj> i test alot with ubuntu.
[21:26] <minhaaj> and i hate to reinstall it and spend hours downloading updates and configuring system
[21:26] <minhaaj> you know what i mean ?
[21:26] <rysiek|pl> minhaaj: that's exactly the problem I needed to solve at my job
[21:26] <minhaaj> i need to put my system to atleast a level of configuration where i can get back after screwing up to screw up more hehe
[21:26] <minhaaj> you know ?
[21:26] <dr_Willis> i test all sorts of things also.. but i rarely mess up the whole system.. i cant even rember the last time i mseed up the whole system
[21:26] <dr_Willis> it dont take me hours to download updates either. :)
[21:26] <minhaaj> well i dont mess up everything either, its just that i dont know how to recover even the slightest glitch
[21:27] <dr_Willis> actually with the new 8.4.1 release.. updates should be much less.
[21:27] <latous> i managed to make Wine apear in Adept Installer finaly but when i select it and then click on apply changes it says tht there was an error any idias plz?
[21:27] <minhaaj> well you must be on great internet
[21:27] <minhaaj> i have 1 mbps
[21:27] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  so now we are back to the 'learning linux' part. :)
[21:27] <latous> yea
[21:27] <sidhartha> hello everybody
[21:27] <minhaaj> with aptoncd i am more comfortable now but still i want to back up configs and settings to. specially my desktop settings and packages
[21:28] <minhaaj> i dont mind dr. i didnt sleep for 2 days the day i installed ubuntu
[21:28] <sidhartha> i've installed unbuntu hardy heron and then i installed kde..... 4 (to my surprise) , the problem is i have sound under gnome and not under kde
[21:28] <minhaaj> and i keep testing for 18 hours on linux. its an addiction
[21:28] <dr_Willis> 2 days? Hmm.. its like a 1/2 hr install...
[21:28] <sidhartha> in the system settings (dawn thing , i really prefer kcontrol) i can see the sound card is used with Xine and in gnome it is used with alsa mixer
[21:28] <minhaaj> its been a month i switched to linux and i help people out with things. but i realize that i need to learn too
[21:28] <dr_Willis> Spend 18 hrs reading about bash. and   things like 'mounting drives' and filesystem.  :)
[21:28] <minhaaj> configs dr willis. i keep configuring things
[21:29] <minhaaj> apache, mysql, php
[21:29] <minhaaj> linux is whole new world
[21:29] <minhaaj> nope reading about bash
[21:29] <minhaaj> reading about configuring apps and installing
[21:29] <minhaaj> i am not as smart as you are dr willis : )
[21:29] <minhaaj> but i sure am crazy about learning them.
[21:29] <sidhartha> does someone have an idea for having sound under KDE4
[21:29] <sidhartha> ?
[21:29] <dr_Willis> none of those things should result in a unuseable system.  :)
[21:30] <dr_Willis> worst case.. remove/puge the package.
[21:30] <minhaaj> let me give you a scenario.
[21:30] <minhaaj> i screw while copy pasting home directory
[21:30] <minhaaj> in this case how would you fix system without reinstalling it ?
[21:31] <minhaaj> given that you can't do it all through cli
[21:31] <minhaaj> most users won't be able to fix system with cli
[21:31] <dr_Willis> now we are back to the 'learning linux' basics..  spend 18 hrs learning bash.
[21:31] <minhaaj> thats when you need to get your home directory back or restore an image to get your previous system back
[21:31] <dr_Willis> nothing in the home dir will get 'fixed' by a reinstall.
[21:32] <dr_Willis> if you deleted your home. its gone. :)
[21:32] <minhaaj> yea but copy pasting from usb the same home directory should fix it
[21:32] <dr_Willis> and NOTHING you do in  the home directory should mess up  the system.
[21:32] <minhaaj> in reality it doesnt because it has links in etc var and other directories
[21:32] <minhaaj> even deleting files dr willis ?
[21:32] <minhaaj> :)
[21:32] <dr_Willis> home dir has links in /etc/ ? not last time that i looked..
[21:33] <dr_Willis> You can totally delete your users home directory and the system should still be bootable.
[21:33] <Freenod1> hello
[21:33] <sidhartha> really no idea for my soundcard problem
[21:33] <Freenod1> how can I enabe java for Konq 3.5.9
[21:33] <sidhartha> ?
[21:33] <minhaaj> when you install firefox it has .mozilla folder in home
[21:33] <Freenod1> where is  the path for the java plugin
[21:33] <minhaaj> but it keeps some settings in etc
[21:34] <minhaaj> it DOES have links in etc and var
[21:34] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  hmm.. Not that i can see...
[21:34] <dr_Willis> if a program needs settings. and the config is not in the users home dir. (like .screenrc) then it normally looks in /etc/ for a system wide 'screenrc' there is no link.
[21:34] <Freenod1> i had copied the java...so file to mozilla plugins but konqi is not starting java
[21:34] <minhaaj> ok lets get to the monosyllabic answer ... i give you a scenario
[21:35] <dr_Willis> there might be a few links to/from /tmp/ for some cases.. but those are  not config files normally
[21:35] <minhaaj> if i want to keep my systems settings and configs and programs, i back up home and do clean reinstall
[21:35] <Freenod1> any help appreciate ...
[21:35] <minhaaj> then i go to home of NEW installation and over write everything with my backed up home what would happen
[21:35] <minhaaj> ?
[21:35] <cyberponix> dr_willis do you know hing about setting up Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI
[21:35] <rysiek|pl> minhaaj: not all settings will be preserved, but most of them
[21:35] <dr_Willis> system settings are normally in /etc/ thats not stored in /home/
[21:35] <minhaaj> you can't back up whole system without backing up etc and var
[21:35] <rysiek|pl> minhaaj: all personal settings (like wallpaper, etc) yes
[21:36] <minhaaj> see now we have gone from home to etc
[21:36] <rysiek|pl> minhaaj: system settings - like xorg.conf - no
[21:36] <dr_Willis> and you have this obsession with 'programs' which are most definatly NOT in /home/
[21:36] <minhaaj> we need to back up both :)
[21:36] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  you are using wrong terms for most everything. a 'link' is a specific feature of the linux filesystem
[21:36] <minhaaj> explain that dr willis
[21:36] <dr_Willis>  ln -s foo bar           --------> made a link from file foo to file bar.. if you dont understand this.. time to look up some linux basics.
[21:37] <dr_Willis> a link is a specifc kind of file under linux.
[21:37] <cyberponix> dr_willis do you know hing about setting up Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI
[21:37] <rysiek|pl> cyberponix: I do, giumme a sec
[21:37] <dr_Willis> cyberponix,  nope. Nothing at all. im lucky to get any wireless going.
[21:37] <cyberponix> ok thnx
[21:38] <minhaaj> instead of refering people to learn help them understanding is generally nice dr willis. specially when i have been discussing it for an hour and didnt give up yet
[21:38] <minhaaj> this does demonstrate my willingness to learn :)
[21:38] <rysiek|pl> cyberponix: http://rysiek.ath.cx/~mike/ubuntu_hardy_na_lg_e200.htm a wee howto I made, in Polish unfortunately, but I will be happy to translate, just gimme a sec ;)
[21:38] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  and so far its been 'time to read some books on linux basics' :)
[21:38] <cyberponix> I just bought this lappy a couple days ago... that is the only I have not gotten to work
[21:38] <minhaaj> its not basics i believe
[21:38] <dr_Willis> You are trying to do advanced things without knowing some core terms/ideas.
[21:38] <minhaaj> backing up is serious stuff that would confuse even the pro users.
[21:39] <minhaaj> if it were that simple, most server administrators would be newbies
[21:39] <cyberponix> thnx rysiekjpl
[21:39] <minhaaj> how about discussing those 'core' terms instead of routing me out ?
[21:39] <minhaaj> :)
[21:39] <rysiek|pl> cyberponix: fire up the terminal
[21:39] <cyberponix> it is up
[21:39] <dr_Willis> want me to read the books to you? theres dozens of guides out there.
[21:40] <rysiek|pl> cyberponix: and disable the Atheros hal and wifi restricted driver in Restricted Drivers Manager
[21:40] <dr_Willis> you learn more by reading a book, then by chatting on irc.
[21:41] <minhaaj> i believe on the contrary dr willis but i guess its ok
[21:42] <cyberponix> how about the support
[21:42] <rysiek|pl> dr_Willis: you read most by trying to actually do stuff on your own, and if IRC or a book helps you with that - then use it :)
[21:42] <rysiek|pl> cyberponix: huh?
[21:42] <K`zan> Hi folks, I made the mistake of upgrading 7.04 to 8.06(?) and got some REAL problems with broken stuff, the biggie right now is that OpenOffice will no longer export HTML as it says that the JAVA is broken - updated to the OO one in adept and it is still telling me that.  Please HELP!  TIA
[21:43] <melkart> where can i find a list of changes from 8.04 to 8.04.1?
[21:43] <rysiek|pl> K`zan: from 7.04 DIRECTLY to 8.04?
[21:43] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,    read/skim guides/books - then if theres some specific case/item you need more info on. then  you can rember.. oh i saw this in that book... and go back to it..   I have a whole shelf or 3 or 32 of linux books. :)
[21:43] <K`zan> Do I need to tell OO that it has the updated JAVA somehow, if so wgat abd wgere.
[21:43] <dr_Willis> bargin bin linux books are great. :)
[21:43] <K`zan> rysiek|pl: I assume so, offered the version upgrade and, sigh, I trusted it :-/.
[21:44] <rysiek|pl> K`zan: you should be on 7.10 now, then
[21:44] <rysiek|pl> K`zan: cat /etc/issue.net
[21:44] <cyberponix> the only other thing "acive" on the wireless card is "support for atheros 802.11 wireless lan card"
[21:44] <rysiek|pl> K`what does it say
[21:44] <K`zan> rysiek|pl: It never said, I assumed... :-)
[21:44] <rysiek|pl> cyberponix: yeah, disable it
[21:45] <K`zan> rysiek|pl: {~} $ cat /etc/issue.net <cr>Ubuntu 8.04.1
[21:45] <rysiek|pl> K`zan: then you have upgraded from 7.10
[21:45] <rysiek|pl> strange
[21:45] <K`zan> rysiek|pl: Yes
[21:45] <cyberponix> k done
[21:45] <minhaaj> i have read huge documentation on linux and my problem is that i always discuss it
[21:45] <K`zan> rysiek|pl: Yes :-)
[21:45] <cyberponix> I will need a restart correct?
[21:45] <minhaaj> this is how we all learn. if that were the case nobody needed teachers
[21:45] <rysiek|pl> cyberponix: nope
[21:45] <rysiek|pl> cyberponix: it's not windoze ;)
[21:45] <cyberponix> k?
[21:45] <minhaaj> and thats what i was doing, discussing problems when you routed me off to books again :)
[21:45] <K`zan> rysiek|pl: also broke my USB filesystem devices - having to do that under wincrap now :-( :-(.
[21:45] <cyberponix> this I know
[21:45] <rysiek|pl> cyberponix: now: sudo apt-get install build-essential bin86
[21:45] <cyberponix> lol
[21:46] <K`zan> rysiek|pl: Should I just backup ~ and do a wipe/reinstall?
[21:46] <rysiek|pl> K`zan: try: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:46] <K`zan> rysiek|pl: Yes, Sir - doing that now - thanks!
[21:46] <rysiek|pl> K`zan: and *always* keep /home on a separate partition, that way you won't have to backup it upon reinstall ;)
[21:46] <dr_Willis> minhaaj,  when you start missusing common linux terms its time to refer you to  the books/guides/docs.   Because we end up just rambling on about stuff you then missunderstand even more. Good luck. The wife is hollering at me.
[21:47] <minhaaj> lol
[21:47] <cyberponix> I find it funnie the webcam was easier tto getgoing than the wireless
[21:47] <minhaaj> wifes are harder than linux
[21:47] <K`zan> rysiek|pl: You betcha and rsynced to another partition regularly as well.
[21:47] <K`zan> rysiek|pl: {~} $ dpkg --configure -a
[21:47] <K`zan> [root@witch1] Sat Jul 05 13:46:52 [258]
[21:47] <K`zan> Nothing that I could tell?!?
[21:47] <dr_Willis> and i will point out that from what ive been reading on the g4l web site. its a bootable iso image. that can clone the whole system :)  I may check that out as soon as it downloads..
[21:48] <dr_Willis> sounds like a handy backup tool.
[21:48] <rysiek|pl> K`zan: ho-humm...
[21:48] <dr_Willis> bbl ya all.
[21:48] <rysiek|pl> cya dr_Willis
[21:48] <cyberponix> l8r doc
[21:48] <K`zan> rysiek|pl: Yes, sigh, when will I ever learn to not trust major upgrades :-/