[09:18] <owh> Radon_3: Well at least it isn't running Windows. You gotta be happy with that.
[09:18] <adsfasfadsfasdf> Adran: ok
[09:18] <Radon_3> from the "additional Drivers" window
[09:18] <adsfasfadsfasdf> adam__: putting junk in there!
[09:19] <Radon_3> I forgot the command for getting the version of graphic card
[09:19] <dw1> f3lix: would it be the current.. or a specific version
[09:19] <_Rocky_> owh: The solutions mentioned there pertain to compiz wm. But I am using Mutter
[09:19] <Radon_3> $ lspci -nn | grep VGA
[09:20] <_Rocky_> owh: well, ubuntu uses mutter
[09:20] <dw1> Radon_3: what you might do is do that chroot thing again, then sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia\*
[09:20] <f3lix> dw1: Good question, guess if it doesn't work, he could take a look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/misc/ and try all of them :D
[09:21] <Radon_3> version of my graphic card: http://tny.cz/4ac01125
[09:21] <WolfLambert> First time chatting from a fully Windows-free laptop.
[09:21] <WolfLambert> Ubuntu is awesome.
[09:21] <owh> _Rocky_: So this bug report doesn't relate to you then.
[09:21] <f3lix> WolfLambert: Congrats :)
[09:21] <owh> WolfLambert: Congratulations and welcome!
[09:22]  * Jabo pats WolfLambert on the back
[09:22] <Guest62991> (away)
[09:22] <Zipper2014> cwh: dw1 f3lix What driver command will I use for GeForce GTX 260 (Nvida)
[09:22] <_Rocky_> owh: Yes. The issue is the same. But I am using a different wm. I havent found any specific bug report for mutter
[09:23] <dw1> Zipper2014: probably just apt-get install nvidia-current
[09:23] <dw1> Zipper2014: always works for me
[09:23] <dw1> Radon_3: saw my msg?
[09:23] <Radon_3> chroot thingy?
[09:23] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: dw1 Are you a gamer?
[09:23] <dw1> Radon_3: yep
[09:23] <Radon_3> trying it.
[09:24] <Radon_3> sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt   and then sudo chroot /mnt, right?
[09:24] <owh> Radon_3: And the other mount bits too.
[09:24] <dw1> Radon_3: few more things.. @ http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd but stop after the chroot dont do any grub stuff
[09:24] <dw1> I'll have to make a pastebin for that or something :)
[09:25] <Radon_3> are the bindings necesary?
[09:25] <gac> owh: yep, looks like it should do the trick, thanks
[09:25] <dw1> Radon_3: yeah
[09:26] <dw1> Radon_3: not critical if just uninstalling.. but better safe than sorry :)
[09:26] <owh> _Rocky_: I'm unsure how to help you further. If it were a problem I had, I'd create a bug report for it. Link the report to the one you showed me.
[09:26] <Zipper2014> cwh: dw1 Does it normally take like 20+ minutes to install Ubuntu 14.04?
[09:26] <dw1> Zipper2014: sounds about right
[09:26] <_Rocky_> owh: I will do that then. Thank you.
[09:27] <owh> _Rocky_: I understand that it doesn't fix your issue directly, but I'm not sure what else to suggest.
[09:27] <dw1> Radon_3: actually you could just do apt-get purge instead of remove --purge :)
[09:28] <dw1> Radon_3: nvidia\*
[09:28] <Radon_3> it says nothing is installed, nothing is removed
[09:28]  * owh is going to have a meal and bid you all farewell.
[09:28] <_Rocky_> owh: This really does look like a candidate for a bug report. I think this has something to do with how icons are chosen for the app. We tried our best. Cheers.
[09:28] <owh> _Rocky_: Yup
[09:29] <dw1> Radon_3: Radon_3 nothing in sudo dpkg -l | grep nvidia  ?
[09:29] <dw1> Radon_3: youre in the chroot ?
[09:30] <Radon_3> my mistake, 4 packages are being removed
[09:30] <Radon_3> all done, good to go?
[09:30] <dw1> Radon_3: :)
[09:30] <Radon_3> yes I am in the chroot
[09:30] <Zipper2014> dw1: What are you going to eat?
[09:30] <dw1> Zipper2014: that was owh
[09:30] <dw1> Radon_3: yep reboot or try your luck now with nvidia-current
[09:30] <kensama> hi
[09:31] <Radon_3> apt-get update -> apt-get install nvidia-current, got it.
[09:31] <Radon_3> in the chroot ofcourse
[09:31] <dw1> Radon_3: and if it dont work then purge again
[09:31] <kensama> can someone could tell me what is the channel for french user please
[09:32] <DJones> kensama: #ubuntu-fr
[09:32] <Radon_3> is this probably gonna work: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers?
[09:32] <kensama> DJones thanks
[09:32] <dw1> Radon_3: thats not a ubuntu site
[09:32] <dw1> Radon_3: use the ubuntu packages for best results
[09:32] <dw1> Radon_3: like nvidia-current
[09:32] <Radon_3> I mean the xorg part
[09:33] <dw1> Radon_3: the packages should do it all
[09:33] <dw1> Radon_3: no need to mess around
[09:33] <Radon_3> alright
[09:34] <Radon_3> the problem with the nouveau was that my mouse kept getting disappeared, and messages were not clean, also some parts of the screen were not where they were supposed to
[09:35] <dw1> Radon_3: yeah i had weird things happening until i installed nvidia-current..
[09:36] <root> hjhj
[09:37] <Zipper2014> I just want to cry and bang my head on the wall. It did not work. Same error message "Error 1962: No Operating System Found".
[09:37] <dw1> Radon_3: Zipper2014 on boot press F2 and go into the BIOS, and change the boot mode from Secure or EFI to Legacy, perhaps
[09:37] <dw1> Radon_3: sorry not for you
[09:38] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: seriously? What is the issue man? did you do as dw1 and owh told you?
[09:38] <Radon_3> grub-pc worked super amazingly for me
[09:40] <Zipper2014> dw1: All I see is SATA 1: HD, SATA 2: Empty, SATA 3: CD/DVD Drive & eSATA1: Empty.
[09:40] <dw1> Zipper2014: there should be other pages
[09:40] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: I have been doing as told. I am very happy to hear yours works. I am not so luck.
[09:41] <Radon_3> I don't know, I actually didn't finger the MBR a lot. I prefer not to suggest anything cause I am only a tiny beginner
[09:41] <Zipper2014> dw1: In my BIOS I see, Main, Devices, Advanced, Power, Security, Startup and exit.
[09:42] <dw1> Zipper2014: look for something like boot mode thats set to Secure of EFI and change to Legacy
[09:42] <dw1> Zipper2014: prob under Startup
[09:42] <dw1> Zipper2014: or Advanced
[09:43] <G__81> Is there a way to install ia32-libs in Ubuntu 14.04 ?
[09:43] <Zipper2014> Advanced only shows me "CPU Setup".
[09:43] <Zipper2014> dw1
[09:44] <Rory> G__81: What are you trying to do that needs it?
[09:44] <G__81> Rory, for setting up android development
[09:44] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: do you have a pripheral thingy in BIOS? try there
[09:44] <Radon_3> "peripheral" something
[09:44] <G__81> Rory, i have installed 64 bit and the tutorials show that package is needed. How do i install it?
[09:44] <Rory> G__81: Generally you install the 32-bit version natively now with "sudo apt-get install packagename:i386"
[09:44] <Rory> G__81: Tutorials for 14.04? ia32-libs hasn't been around for a while now
[09:45] <nodedfree> G__81, sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[09:45] <Guest65677> I have a problem here.. pls.. help me.. how to fix this E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:45] <dw1> Zipper2014: keep looking there arent that many options..
[09:45] <G__81> Rory, the tutorials talk about version 12.04 so how do i set up the same in 14.04
[09:46] <Rory> G__81: There's a tutorial for 14.04 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2639611
[09:46] <Zipper2014> dw1: What am I looking for again?
[09:46] <Rory> G__81: You can't assume a tutorial for version X of ubuntu will also work in version Y
[09:46] <Rory> Guest65677: Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[09:46] <dw1> Zipper2014: Boot mode: change from Secure or UEFI to Legacy
[09:47] <Rory> Guest65677: Paste the command you ran, and the full output
[09:47] <dw1> Zipper2014: http://google.com/images?q=bios+boot+mode
[09:47] <lionrouge> hi
[09:47] <lionrouge> how to turn off recently used files in panel?
[09:47] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: UEFI EFI or something like that, Legacy... basically you want to tell your bios how to load your MBR, mine is set to legacy first
[09:47] <paulus68> what is a good program to sync ipod under ubuntu
[09:47] <lionrouge> when i change it in system parameters it is just ignored
[09:47] <dw1> Zipper2014: maybe in Security is where you turn off Secure Boot
[09:47] <G__81> Rory, yeah exactly as you say i cannot assume. i am just trying to setup android-app dev in 14.04
[09:48] <Zipper2014> I see no UEFI nor EFI Nor legacy.
[09:48] <Rory> G__81: That guide looks solid
[09:48] <Rory> lionrouge: You may have to log off and on again for the changes to take effect
[09:48] <Rory> lionrouge: Or possibly just restart unity with the "unity" command
[09:48] <lionrouge> Rory, already tried
[09:48] <lionrouge> no effect
[09:49] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh825112.aspx
[09:49] <Rory> lionrouge: What version of Ubuntu?
[09:49] <Radon_3> http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E20881_01/html/E20891/gltde.html
[09:49] <lionrouge> Rory, 14.04
[09:49] <Zipper2014> dw1: Under Security, all I see is a way to password protect my BIOS, that is all.
[09:49] <Rory> lionrouge: System Settings -> Security and Privacy -> Files & Applications (tab) -> "Record file and application usage" turn to "Off" and click "Clear usage"
[09:49] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: what is the model of your BIOS and motherboard?
[09:50] <g7> is there any good application to download music at ease
[09:50] <Rory> lionrouge: You will have to press Clear Usage, simply turning it to "off" will only prevent recent files from being recorded in the future
[09:50] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: dw1 I have a Lenovo IdeaCentre K410 Desktop PC. I have added a GeForce GTX 260 Graphics card to the machine.
[09:50] <Rory> g7: Google Play and Amazon are the two most obvious choices
[09:51] <g7> Rory: thanks
[09:51] <Rory> g7: Although they are websites, they are very easy
[09:52] <lionrouge> Rory, Clear Usage? How to do it? You mean to type "unity" in terminal with --reset option?
[09:52] <dw1> Zipper2014: look in the Startup tab
[09:52] <G__81> Rory, thanks i ll go through the guide and set it up that way
[09:52] <dw1> Zipper2014: set it like this https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaCentre-Desktops-Home-Servers/Force-K410-to-boot-from-disk/m-p/1078045#M5887
[09:53] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: also http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/desktop_pub/ideacentre_k430k410_hmm_20120627.pdf
[09:53] <Zipper2014> dw1: I see "Primary Boot Sequence", Quick Boot, Rapid Boot, Boot up Num-Lock Status, & Keyboardless Operation.
[09:54] <Zipper2014> F1 put me right back where I was.
[09:55] <TOSHIBA1> hello
[09:55] <dw1> Zipper2014: get the boot into legacy mode it has to be in there.
[09:55] <lionrouge> Rory, thank you i made it
[09:55] <Rory> No problem, glad I could help :)
[09:56] <g7> Rory: google play music is available in my country.. :(
[09:59] <Zipper2014> dw1: The links tells me a lot, but does not help me understand where to find something at. I do not see one thing you have told me to find. So should I just assume my machine is broken?
[10:00] <Radon_3> all done
[10:00] <Radon_3> should I reboot?
[10:00] <dw1> Zipper2014: i think if you can disable the secure boot and/or UEFI it'll boot into ubuntu.
[10:01] <Sven_vB> CornishPasty, bot errors via PM instead of notice might be due to audiences using strange clients. for example i'm using a derivate of xchat which displays notices not on the channel where i currently am, but on a channel where i and the bot are both joined. but not just any such intersecting channel, not even the most recently used, but the alphabetically first channel with me and the bot on it. which results in me not seeing notices in most
[10:01] <Sven_vB>  channels.
[10:01] <dw1> Zipper2014: or you can try re-installing windows then ubuntu after
[10:01] <Zipper2014> dw1: I have looked through everything in my BIOS and I do not see anything that comes close to what you want disbaled.
[10:01] <Rory> g7: What about http://www.7digital.com/ ? This really isn't Ubuntu-specific
[10:02] <dw1> Zipper2014: its in there for sure
[10:02] <Radon_3> ok, going to reboot
[10:02] <Zipper2014> dw1: Well I am very sorry to say, my eyes do not see anyhthing there.
[10:02] <dw1> Zipper2014: the forum post mentions the exit page what about that one
[10:05] <Zipper2014> dw1: The exit page only shows the following: Save Changes and Exit, Discard Chnages and Exit, & Load Optimal Defaults.
[10:06] <dw1> Zipper2014: the forum link is a support specialist for your exact computer telling him how to put the boot mode into legacy... so makes no sense
[10:07] <Radon_3> ok, still a blinking cursor
[10:07] <Radon_3> didn't help
[10:07] <dw1> Radon_3: :(
[10:07] <dw1> Radon_3: ctrl-alt-f1?
[10:07] <Radon_3> what?
[10:07] <Radon_3> ctrl+alt+f1 not working either
[10:07] <dw1> Radon_3: need link again ?
[10:07] <Radon_3> not even f2
[10:08] <Radon_3> for chroot?
[10:08] <Radon_3> no
[10:08] <Radon_3> link for chroot?
[10:08] <Radon_3> I have it
[10:08] <nodedfree> ctrl + a + d
[10:08] <Radon_3> I only need the command to remove nvidia
[10:08] <dw1> Radon_3: sudo apt-get purge nvidia\*
[10:08] <Zipper2014> So I am looking at 2-3 hours just to create the build of a repair DVD?
[10:10] <dw1> Zipper2014: the lenovo rescue disk also requires legacy boot mode........
[10:10] <dw1> Zipper2014: look again....
[10:11] <Radon_3> any hints on how to get nvidia to work? no pressure
[10:11] <dw1> Radon_3: you could mount the drive and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see the error
[10:12] <Zipper2014> dw1: I will install Linux Mint and see if it will install. If it will, I will try to install Ubuntu one last time before I find another OS. I am trying my best to give this my all, but I can only give so much down time.
[10:12] <dw1> Zipper2014: well you have no EFI so EFI boot wont work you need Legacy
[10:13] <Zipper2014> dw1: =) Have no idea what that is. Even the link has been dumb founded.
[10:14] <dw1> Radon_3: after mount it would be /mnt/var/log/Xorg.0.log of course
[10:14] <dw1> Zipper2014: have someone else look at your bios for legacy options :)
[10:14] <Radon_3> brb
[10:15] <Safa_[A_boy]> Hello, My friend have a router with model "AE6000 Wireless Mini USB Adapter AC 580 Dual Band", and it is not working on 14.04
[10:15] <dw1> Zipper2014: you wont be able to boot Mint either witout changing that...
[10:15] <dw1> Zipper2014: its not the OS its the BIOS
[10:15] <dw1> Zipper2014: that is the problem
[10:16] <dw1> Zipper2014: you have no EFI partition
[10:16] <dw1> Zipper2014: therefore EFI is useless
[10:17] <Zipper2014> dw1: Will keep that in mind.
[10:17] <dw1> Zipper2014: have to disable it in bios
[10:17] <Zipper2014> k
[10:18] <alhosni> I bought   AE6000 Wireless Mini USB Adapter AC 580 Dual item  But I found that Ubuntu 14.4 does not recognize it  This output is lsusb
[10:18] <alhosni>  ubuntu@ubuntu-HP-xw4600-Workstation:~$ lsusb Bus 002 Device 004: ID 03f0:0024 Hewlett-Packard KU-0316 Keyboard Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c018 Logitech, Inc. Optical Wheel Mouse Bus 002 Device 002: ID 2001:f103 D-Link Corp. DUB-H7 7-port USB 2.0 hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root
[10:18] <cfhowlett> !patience|alhosni
[10:19] <WiredSlash> alhosni, update your drivers
[10:19] <Zipper2014> alhosni: I would look at the fourms and the help one, but the "ask ubuntu" does not seem fruitful.
[10:20] <WiredSlash> alhosni,  askubuntu.com
[10:20] <alhosni> They told me that it is possible to find a solution here
[10:21] <cfhowlett> alhosni possible, yes.  But not instantaneous.
[10:22] <aneks> does anyone know what the latest unity update was for?
[10:22] <alhosni> If you wait until I find a solution to that problem with the system that Windows recognizes it all publications
[10:23] <alhosni> http://www.linksys.com/en-mea/products/adapters
[10:25] <cfhowlett> !hardware|alhosni hardware manufacturers support windows with drivers.  FEW do so for linux.  Thankfully, coders and programmers are hard at work cracking, hacking and back-engineering every piece of hardware that linux works on.  Want a piece of hardware to work?   Demand linux support from the OEMS and don't purchase purchase products that lack this.
[10:26] <mahesh_>  /j #raspberrypi
[10:26] <cgt> I want to know how to block all IPv6 traffic for a specific user. Like this: http://serverfault.com/questions/236721/bind-process-or-user-to-specific-ip-linux, only it drops traffic for the user instead of using a specific IP (and of course for IPv6 instead of IPv4). I would be very grateful if someone would help me accomplish this.
[10:26] <mahesh_>  /j #linux
[10:27] <cgt> mahesh_: try without the prefixed space
[10:30] <junka> !thunderbird
[10:30] <junka> !info thunderbird
[10:31] <james0r2> having broken package issues with i use asian mirrors. is it common to have problems when using other mirrors?
[10:32] <cfhowlett> james0r "other" compared to  ... what?  Anyway, it happens.  mirrors drop for maintenance then pop back up later.  change the mirror or be patient.
[10:34] <Zipper2014> dw1: Does linux mint use the same installer as Ubuntu?
[10:34] <WiredSlash> Zipper2014, Nope
[10:34] <cfhowlett> !mint|Zipper2014
[10:34] <cfhowlett> Zipper2014 and it's not supported here.  go to their channel for your answers.
[10:35] <Zipper2014> cfhowlett: I am not here to promote or push anything nor am I seeking help. I just asked because I am trying to see if this install will work. If it does it will help me understand why Ubuntu 14.04 will not install.
[10:36] <cfhowlett> Zipper2014 understood.
[10:38] <james0r2> cfhowlett, using a chinese or vietnamese mirror for example opposed to the 'server in the United States' as described by synaptic for example.
[10:38] <Zipper2014> Does Virtualbox come preinstalled on Ubuntu 14.04?
[10:38] <babinlonston> I have installed Ubuntu 12.04, I have assigned a Manual IP Address for my Host using Bridge, I'm using KVM so i have to use Bridge for assigning same network range for Virtual machines, Now the issue is with my network ICON in status bar shows Disconnected always but Internet and network were working fine without any issue, While clicking on wired connection its shows as unmanaged, How can i fix this icon even my network was up and working fine.
[10:38] <james0r2> is there a place that tracks whether mirrors are up-to-date?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> james0r right.  even the USA and UK mirrors drop for maintenance.  Change to one that works and go for it!
[10:39] <babinlonston> Here is my network settings http://paste.ubuntu.com/7372096/
[10:39] <cfhowlett> james0r there's a command line to test mirrors, but I don't know of a databae ...
[10:39] <james0r2> cfhowlett, i just revered to the US mirror but it's slow out here in vietnam
[10:39] <g7> Rory: i can't find any free dwnload
[10:40] <cfhowlett> james0r USA?  come on man!   Look around!  LOTS of VN servers to choose from!
[10:43] <junka> Zipper2014, no
[10:43] <Zipper2014> junka: I almost felt lost in all the other text. Thanks for the answer. =)
[10:45] <Zipper2014> dw1: You're correct linux minty does not boot from HD.
[10:45] <Zipper2014> So do I need to reinstall windows?
[10:46] <WiredSlash> Zipper2014, Yes
[10:47] <Zipper2014> WiredSlash: Do I need to update windows or can I install it and then reinstall Ubuntu?
[10:47] <Guest22415> Anyone know why it says "You failed to identify in time for the nickname ......." ?
[10:48] <alhosni> How do I find a solution to the problem of lack of know minivans Router on Ubuntu 14.4
[10:49] <cfhowlett> Guest22415 because you failed ... type faster.
[10:49] <XSe7enX> YO
 what do you mean?
[10:50] <cfhowlett> !nick > XSe7enX
[10:50] <sebsebseb> Guest62991: yes
[10:50] <sebsebseb> wrong one
[10:50] <sebsebseb> guest22415
[10:51] <sebsebseb> oh  wel make that XSe7enX then,  not logged into account if that message
[10:52] <WiredSlash> Zipper2014, Install it and then reinstall
[10:52] <Zipper2014> Will it fix my bios issue?
[10:54] <Guest55924> HELLO
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> caps
[10:55] <dw1> Zipper2014: "How can I change the boot mode? There are two boot modes: UEFI and Legacy. To change the boot mode, start the BIOS setup utility and set boot mode to UEFI or Legacy support on the boot menu." http://tinyurl.com/kfc95x5 page 38
[10:56] <Zipper2014> dw1: Will installing windows help reset the bios?
[10:56] <S373N> TEST
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> S373N  it works, we see you
[10:56] <cfhowlett> S373N we see you.  ask your support questions
[10:57] <dw1> Zipper2014: no, but it may work with UEFI if you cant disable it
[10:57] <S373N> Thanks guys
[10:57] <dw1> Zipper2014: but you should be able to
[10:57] <S373N> do I need to register this username?
[10:57] <cfhowlett> S373N need?  no.
[10:57] <S373N> should?
[10:58] <cfhowlett> S373N up to you.
[10:58] <Zipper2014> dw1: I am laughing now and I think you. It is clear the last link had an error. You have to hold down the windows key + press F1. All I was being told was to press F1.
[10:58] <S373N> Does anyone know how to create your own network?
[10:58] <dw1> Zipper2014: You were in the right place before.  Windows key shouldnt be needed
[10:59] <cfhowlett> S373N ask in ##linux
[10:59] <dw1> Zipper2014: going to sleep.. disable UEFI and install Ubuntu. :) good luck
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> S373N  and / or ##networking
[10:59] <Zipper2014> dw1: So I can ditch this Windows install and follow the commands?
[11:00] <S373N> ok
[11:00] <jacob__> dwl: fast bios access disabled?
[11:01] <lemao> As of this morning I started seeing this on apt-get update: "W: GPG error: http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:02] <tommis> every time I try to boot new ubuntu server install I get a black screen
[11:02] <tommis> when I selected openssh during install it didn't show up on the network
[11:02] <cfhowlett> !badsig > cfhowlett
[11:02] <cfhowlett> badsig | lemao
[11:02] <Zipper2014> tommis: I was trying to use your screen as a mirror. Sorry for blocking your view.
[11:03] <tommis> Zipper2014: what
[11:03] <lemao> cfhowlett: why would that happen? This is a fresh ubuntu ec2 instance created yesterday night.
[11:03] <Zipper2014> tommis: I am being silly. It sucks when we have issues with things. But a laugh can help take some anger off the plate.
[11:04] <tommis> well I don't get it
[11:04] <Zipper2014> Oh well. =)
[11:04] <cfhowlett> lemao package change upstream and no one updated the sig's would do that.  When I've encountered it previously, it has self corrected given time.
[11:06] <lemao> cfhowlett: is there a way to manually fix this?
[11:06] <james0r2> was asking about checking status of mirrors. to anyone else that might be interested this site shows status https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[11:06] <cfhowlett> lemao it's an error upstream - nothing you can do. (as I understand it)
[11:07] <lemao> cfhowlett: ok, thanks.
[11:07] <cfhowlett> james0r good find!  thanks.
[11:08] <sebsebseb> doctorpepper: what's the worst that could happen
[11:09] <james0r2> cfhowlett, for sure. just realized some of the vietnam mirrors aren't for trusty though. China is close enough though.
[11:12] <anonymous> How to Ddos site and stop it ?
[11:12] <Timmy> I have installed tor and privoxy and I am using privoxy to forward socks connection on http, now I need to allow other devices on the network to forward their traffic on on privoxy installed on my machine. When they set their proxy settings on their machines, privoxy on my machine does not allow them to access the network and doesn't work. how should I allow their http requests on my machine?
[11:17] <doctorpepper> sebsebseb: some apps could misbehave.
[11:22] <sebsebseb> doctorpepper: no it's the saying that goes with your name :d,  but yeah maybe that
[11:32] <Guest88704> hi
[11:32] <cabbage4th> Has anyone tried Pantheon in ubuntu14.04? Want to know someone who did it without getting errors before getting it myself.
[11:33] <Guest88704> im having a problem connecting to Logitech wireless speaker bluetooth adapter
[11:33] <ikonia> cabbage4th: you'll have better responses if you just state the errors you get and ask for help fixing them
[11:33] <Guest88704> bluetooth is enabled at my laptop and pairing mode is on but I do not see any device
[11:33] <Guest88704> i can connect with my mobile though
[11:33] <cabbage4th> ikonia: Okay I'll just get it then report if there are problems. Thanks.
[11:35] <Zipper2014> Guest88704: What does pairing the cell phone do?
[11:35] <Guest88704> i pair my cell phone with the logitech bluetooth adapter
[11:36] <Zipper2014> Guest88704: So this is for a Bluetooth headset?
[11:36] <Guest88704> all audio is send to the bluetooth adapter. however adapternot found by my laptopt
[11:36] <Guest88704> the adapter can be plugged to speakers
[11:36] <Zipper2014> Oh nice.
[11:36] <Guest88704> when it works, yes
[11:36] <Zipper2014> lol
[11:36] <WLM|weg> Why is Ubuntu so awesome
[11:36] <jacob__> hello=
[11:37] <Zipper2014> WLM|weg: It would be if I can get mine installed. =(
[11:37] <cabbage4th> jacob__: hi
[11:37] <WLM|weg> Hi jacob__
[11:39] <jacob__> thanks works :)
[11:42] <jackbrown> hi
[11:42] <Feudster> Hello i have just installed the google web designer beta on ubuntu 14.04 lts and can not launch the application from the icon in the dash. It will run if i use this command /usr/bin/google-webdesigner . Is there a way to make it launch from the icon ?
[11:42] <jackbrown> anyone here?
[11:42] <bekks> jackbrown: According to "/names" the answer is "yes".
[11:43] <ShalokShalom> the installer writes GRUB to my sd card, if she is pluged in, while the installation
[11:43] <jackbrown> bekks: I have Mame problem  on my system here is the output when I launch mame  -verbose thanks https://www.privatepaste.com/7398440ebb
[11:43] <Kloked> Hello. I need to use a linux distro to run physics simulations. I used Suse for a while (1-2 years ago) but someone suggested not to. I heard a lot about Ubuntu and a bit about Mint. What should be the choosing factor here?
[11:43] <Zipper2014> To get my Bios where they need to be, what do I need to install to get to the UEFI and Legacy settings?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: this is ubuntu support
[11:44] <bekks> Zipper2014: You cannot install that - those are settings in your BIOS.
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: so if you want support here then choose Ubuntu, the Mint support community is not as large as Ubuntu's
[11:44] <Kloked> ActionParsnip, Can't I ask for a suggestion? #linux requires registering.
[11:45] <ShalokShalom> Kloked: Hardware ?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: the choosing factor is simple. Which distribution will do what you need it to do?
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: no idea why anyone would say to not use Suse, its not a bad distro
[11:46] <captine> hi all.  Anyone been able to get teamviewer to work on ubuntu 14.04.  Dependency lib32asound2 cannot be resolved??
[11:46] <ShalokShalom> Kloked: When you prefer KDE, i suggest you netrunner. That is a kubuntu with a better KDE Support and all the advantages from mint.
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> captine: i suggest you report a bug
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> captine: what is the pupose of using teamviewer, there may be a sleeker solution to what you intend to use teamviewer for
[11:47] <Kloked> ActionParsnip, I guess any of them will do, but I am mostly a Windows-based user and would like to know what is the main difference between suse and ubuntu. I also have an old PC, so...
[11:47] <Zipper2014> bekks: The problem I am having is, I do not see the settings.
[11:47] <captine> ActionParsnip, I want to remote support my folks in a different city.  They are not on ubuntu
[11:47] <ShalokShalom> Kloked: The main difference is different code
[11:48] <bekks> Zipper2014: Then you have to take a look at the BIOS manual.
[11:48] <ShalokShalom> when you are a windows and suse user, you prefer KDE.
[11:48] <ShalokShalom> When you prefer KDE, i suggest you netrunner. :)
[11:48] <Kloked> ShalokShalom, I want something minimalistic, but not so much that I will waste more time configuring stuff than working. =)
[11:48] <bekks> ShalokShalom: you can install KDE on almost every distro.
[11:48] <ShalokShalom> bekks: i know
[11:48] <Zipper2014> bekks: Does each BIOS have a model number and name? I am not that great with BIOS.
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> captine: makes sense then :)
[11:49] <Ben64> ShalokShalom: this is an ubuntu support channel, you probably shouldn't suggest stuff that isn't supported here without making that clear
[11:49] <ShalokShalom> Ben64: Netrunner is based on ubuntu, so the very most support works there too
[11:49] <Ben64> its still not supported here
[11:50] <ShalokShalom> bekks: the question is, how well the DE is implemented
[11:50] <ShalokShalom> Ben64: i never suggest this
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> why use a DE at all ;)   just use Fluxbox and be done
[11:51] <Zipper2014> What is Fluxbox?
[11:52] <sebsebseb> Zipper2014: old skool inteface
[11:52] <MonkeyDust> !fluxbox > Zipper2014
[11:52] <sebsebseb> quie popular still wit old skool people :d
[11:52] <Zipper2014> oh.
[11:52] <sebsebseb> quite above
[11:52] <Kloked> ActionParsnip, So, from what I've seen, any will do pretty much the same, as long as I do "normal" stuff, is that it?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Zipper2014: is a WM just like COmpiz but can run on it's own (compiz can do that too but takes some manual config) its super light and very configurable
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Zipper2014: its based on Blackbox
[11:53] <Zipper2014> OH ok.
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: pretty much, you'll need to see if your physics simulations will run in Ubuntu
[11:54] <Kloked> ActionParsnip, They're fortran based. I guess they'll run in any of these distros, right?
[11:55] <Zipper2014> How can I get my BIOS to show me the UEFI and Legacy settings?
[11:55] <Zipper2014> https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/desktop_pub/ideacentre_k4_ug_v2.0_aug_2012_english.pdf
[11:55] <Zipper2014> is my PC's manual.
[11:56] <yuri__> wc
[11:56] <Ben64> its probably delete,insert,f1-12 or something like that Zipper2014
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: no idea, if you can get fortran on Ubuntu then yes absolutely
[11:56] <jacob__> del on boot
[11:57] <Radon_3> alright, in an idiotic attempt to get nvidia drivers to run correctly on my ubuntu machine, I have run the following commands: which one of them could cause security or other problems in the long run? http://tny.cz/dbbff8da
[11:57] <Kloked> Ok, ActionParsnip. I suppose you have Ubuntu. Why did you choose it over other distros?
[11:58] <Zipper2014> Ben64: May I PM you?
[11:58] <Ben64> Zipper2014: just say it in the channel
[11:58] <Zipper2014> NP =)
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: depends on needs.
[11:58] <Zipper2014> Is there another way to access the BIOS that I am looking for other than delete + F1?
[11:58] <llutz> Radon_3: having a compiler (build-essential will install one) on a machine is always a possible security issue, but you'll need it for your drivers
[11:59] <Ben64> Zipper2014: well the manual you linked to has a BIOS section
[11:59] <Radon_3> llutz: what about the other commands?
[11:59] <Radon_3> I am using 12.04 LTS
[11:59] <llutz> Radon_3: nothing wrong with it
[12:00] <Zipper2014> Ben64: I know. But I am still stuck.   Anyway, forget about that. Speed, stability and repository-wise, there is no significant advantage between distros, right?
[12:00] <Ben64> Zipper2014: stuck with what
[12:00] <llutz> Radon_3: "apt-get upgrade" is senseless if you run dist-upgrade after it, but no harm
[12:00] <Zipper2014> Ben64: The BIOS does NOT give me the settings I am requested ti change.
[12:01] <Ben64> Zipper2014: then you should maybe contact the vendor
[12:01] <Radon_3> llutz: thank you, by the way I need a command to purge all things nvidia, dw1 mentioned it earlier, but I didn't record it
[12:01] <tom__666> is there anyone who is an expert in nmap
[12:01] <urielvigilant> hello, i need to extrat emails from a website, take this example and tell me what it is wrong here :   wget -q -r -l 5 -O - http://www.olx.pt/servicos-cat-191 | grep -E -o<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:01] <Zipper2014> Ben64: Thanks for your time. =)
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> tom__666  find out by asking your question
[12:01] <urielvigilant> i take that from internet, because iam newby on linux
[12:02] <llutz> Radon_3: "<dw1> Radon_3: sudo apt-get purge nvidia\*" this?
[12:02] <tom__666> MonkeyDust: how do i scan a system using nmap
[12:02] <Radon_3> yup, that's the one
[12:02] <Radon_3> thanks
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: my needs are chat and web browse, so ubuntu works. I use xpud a lot these days too
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> tom__666  man nmap, to start
[12:03] <urielvigilant> ActionParsnip can you help me ?
[12:03] <Radon_3> so should I remove build-essential?
[12:03] <llutz> tom__666: more detailed http://nmap.org/book/man.html
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: so you will have a text file and you want to extract email addresses from the site?
[12:04] <urielvigilant> I did this command : wget -q -r -l 5 -O - http://www.olx.pt/servicos-cat-191 | grep -E -o<EMAIL_ADDRESS>        , now on scren appear this signal > but i cant write nothing, where are the emails ?
[12:05] <llutz> urielvigilant: missing " at the end
[12:05] <Zipper2014> If anyone does know how to fix my BIOS settings, please let me know. =)
[12:05] <urielvigilant> wget -q -r -l 5 -O - http://www.olx.pt/servicos-cat-191 | grep -E -o<EMAIL_ADDRESS>"               this ?
[12:06] <tom__666> MonkeyDust: thanks
[12:06] <Kloked> ActionParsnip, Thanks.
[12:06] <urielvigilant> ACtionParsnip where i find the file with the emails ?
[12:08] <urielvigilant> making this wget -q -r -l 5 -O - http://www.olx.pt/servicos-cat-191 | grep -E -o<EMAIL_ADDRESS> , now only appear the cursor on screen . ?? where i see the emails ?
[12:08] <Ben64> that command doesn't make a file
[12:09] <urielvigilant> Can some one help me creating a command that work for that purpose ?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> urielvigilant: wherever wget puts it....
[12:09] <Kloked> ActionParsnip, One more thing: any suggestions on desktop environment? (Remember I am Windows-based, so anything that keeps me from using Terminal is great.)
[12:09] <Ben64> "-O -" = output to stdout, it's not going to make a file
[12:09] <roel> hi. how can I get sound out Rosegarden, like piano?  Changing outputs at "Manage MIDI Devices" didnt help me.     Timidity ++ works great.
[12:10] <urielvigilant> Ben64 can you help creating one that work praticly ?
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> roel  #ubuntustudio is multimedia dedicated, better ask there
[12:10] <Ben64> urielvigilant: you can try #bash but i'm pretty sure its not going to work ever
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: a different DE will not mean you use terminal less.
[12:10] <tom__666> my nvidia graphic does not work well
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Kloked: KDE and Gnome are feature rich but use more resources
[12:13] <user_> hi
[12:13] <tom__666> user_: hello
[12:14] <user_> awesome
[12:14] <tom__666> User: are you new to this?
[12:14] <user_> yes
[12:15] <tom__666> User: me too.. :)  but this server will help you to solve your problem.
[12:16] <user_> great start loving ubuntu even more
[12:16] <WolfLambert> Hi everyone! I'd like to have a clock widget, anyone has a suggestion?
[12:17] <tom__666> User_: ask any question related to ubuntu, they will answer you instantly
[12:18] <Gallomimia> im trying to install nvidia drivers on a system that was once ati based graphics. the installer says run script as root with no xserver running. i can't seem to get a command line without a graphical session running. what is my first step?
[12:19] <Ben64> Gallomimia: installer? you should not be using an installer
[12:20] <Gallomimia> let me guess.. use it from the repos... again?
[12:20] <Ben64> Gallomimia: yep, thats what is supported, and its easier. whats the problem?
[12:21] <Gallomimia> may i have the package name sir?
[12:21] <k1l> Gallomimia: first remove the fglrx, then install the nvidi-current from the ubuntu repos.
[12:21] <Gallomimia> what if i want to put both boards in the system and run different displays on each board?
[12:21]  * Gallomimia slips in some crazy talk to see what will happen
[12:22] <Zipper2014> bekk: What do I need to disable in the BIOS?
[12:22] <LupoDeiCieli> Ciao a tutti :D
[12:22] <cgt> !it | LupoDeiCieli
[12:22] <tom__666> WolfLambert: try upclock
[12:22] <k1l> Gallomimia: i dont think that is an easy task for some average user
[12:23]  * humbag likes xdaliclock
[12:23] <Gallomimia> k1l: agreed. i cant even get the thing to install under raid/lvm
[12:23] <Gallomimia> how can i get mixed graphics cards to run stably?
[12:23] <Gallomimia> (hint the ati card was never stable)
[12:24] <Gallomimia> good thing i have this laptop to ssh in from
[12:25] <Gallomimia> how's 14.04? havent' tried it yet
[12:25] <k1l> its working
[12:25] <Radon_3> folks, is this http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/ recomended to install nvidia drivers? cause apt-get install nvidia-current only gives me a blinking cursor on a dark background
[12:25] <Gallomimia> sounds promising.
[12:25] <k1l> Radon_3: no. ubuntu offers some own nvidia drivers
[12:26] <Radon_3> Gallomimia: talking to me?
[12:26] <Gallomimia> i am about to attempt the command you said you didn't like
[12:26] <Radon_3> k1l: you talking about nouveua thingy right?
[12:26] <Gallomimia> k1l is it nvidia-current or nvidi-current
[12:26] <k1l> !info nvidia-current | Radon_3
[12:27] <Gallomimia> its a good !info yep
[12:27] <Radon_3> well I am trying nvidia-current for about 1.5 hours now and I only get a black screen after boot
[12:28] <k1l> Radon_3: you can remove that nvidia-current and try nvidia-310 or nvidia-319 instead
[12:28] <sasuke> hi guys,
[12:28] <Zipper2014> Radon_3: DO you remember what they said I need to disbale in the BIOS?
[12:29] <sasuke> can anyone help me how to configure ntp in server and client hosts
[12:29] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: you need to set it to legacy booting man
[12:29] <Radon_3> nothing to disable
[12:29] <Radon_3> k1l: tried those too
[12:30] <roel_> i dont get an answer from ubuntustudio :(
[12:31] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: you need to tell the bios to boot the media in legacy mode, that's what I remember
[12:31] <cfhowlett> roel got home  - wha tis your ubuntustudio question?
[12:32] <roel_> how can I get sound out Rosegarden, like piano?  Changing outputs at "Manage MIDI Devices" didnt help me.     Timidity ++ works great.
[12:33] <cfhowlett> roel never used r'garden.  sorry.
[12:33] <gingitsune> Hello
[12:33] <gingitsune> Just upgraded 13.10 -> 14.04
[12:33] <roel_> i did in the past. I made some somgs with it.
[12:33] <gingitsune> It boots to a black screen
[12:33] <Gallomimia> k1l: i still get a similar error message. something about unable to set stored mode on monitor such and such. lists a bunch of modes
[12:34] <Tiensbakung> roel_: only tried it once, I recall some thing about soundfonts, maybe you can search for that
[12:34] <gingitsune> I can youse the terminals, just the GUI arn't working
[12:34] <Gallomimia> on a gaining note, i can now use ctrl+alt plus Fkey to get a command line
[12:34] <cfhowlett> roel http://rosegardenmusic.com/support/     http://rosegardenmusic.com/resources/
[12:34] <roel_> i'll look
[12:34] <bipul> dhruvasagar, Hi
[12:34] <Gallomimia> login screen works fine. i get graphics and pictures and backgrounds
[12:35] <Radon_3> Zipper2014: I'm so sorry man, I kind of feel how you must be feeling ;(
[12:35] <Radon_3> gotta reboot
[12:35] <Radon_3> brb
[12:35] <gingitsune> Can anyone lend a hand? It seems a bunch of people on the web describe similar problems with the only solution seeming to do a fresh install on top
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: what GPU do you use?
[12:36] <roel_> i'll reinstall alsa mixer because of an error there.
[12:37] <mujhahid> Boa tarde
[12:37] <Romance> jihadist
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: or does the system have a make and model?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> Romance ask your ubuntu support questions here.  politics, insults go elsehwere.
[12:39] <gingitsune> ActionParsnip, no its a custome built desktop
[12:39] <Romance> cfhowlett oh sorry, i just replied to mujhahid, mujahid = jihadist
[12:39] <gingitsune> I figure the AMD APU is missing drivers
[12:40] <cfhowlett> Romance noted.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: so what GPU are you using?
[12:41] <gingitsune> The integrated one
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: ok, what is it?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: you can have an Integrated Intel GPU, or an Nvidia 6150LE onboard, like mine does
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: 'integrated' is not exact enough
[12:42] <gingitsune> ActionParsnip, i'm not sure trying to figure it out :)
[12:42] <gingitsune> I can say its AMD
[12:42] <PaRaD0xxR> hi, I was in here yesterday but had to run out. So if anybody responded, I missed it.  I'm trying to get gapcmon to load so I can monitor my UPS, but it hangs when I try to run it.  Either via term/CLI or the launcher.  I have no idea where to begin to diagnose it.
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: boot to root recovery mode and run:  sudo lshw -C display      you will be toild
[12:42] <PaRaD0xxR> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[12:42] <bjorn_> hi, I installed xubuntu desktop package and now I would like to have the xubuntu startup and shut down screen as defalut. Is this easy to fix?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: usually, when you build a system yourself you kinda know this stuff
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: did you install the proproetary AMD video drivers?
[12:43] <gingitsune> ActionParsnip, its been a while. And i didn't build it for myself
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: drop to root recovery mode and uninstall the fglrx packages, then reboot then reinstall them#]
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> gingitsune: I'll assume you installed them
[12:46] <gingitsune> ITs a radeon HD 8470D, if that changes anything
[12:47] <roel_> I cant see "sound card properties" at "Asla" due to error (reported).
[12:51] <guest______> hello, still having problems with bluetooth adapter of fujitsu lifebook ah530
[12:51] <guest______> hcitool dev .. gives me a mac address
[12:52] <guest______> but cant find bluetooth device in lsusb, lspci or dmesg
[12:52] <guest______> also I cant find any other device with my bluetoothadapter
[12:52] <guest______> anyone havean idea how this might work
[12:52] <kikimeter> hi guys, where I can find information to make an ubuntu package ?
[12:53] <cateract> hello,
[12:53] <kikimeter> except on google :)
[12:53] <cateract> I
[12:53] <cateract> I've set mutt
[12:53] <cateract> but I'm not getting the list of my fetched mail
[12:53] <Pici> !packaging | kikimeter
[12:53] <cateract> though it says mails are flushed
[12:53] <kikimeter> thank you Pici
[12:54] <cateract> is there any other setting that needs to be done
[12:54] <cateract> before fetching
[12:54] <PaRaD0xxR> gapcmon was working fine until I tried to fix the show tray icon option, which wasn't working, I've removed and reinstalled it, and now I can't get it to load at all
[12:54] <cateract> I can send mails though
[12:54] <Gallomimia> how easy is it to install 14.04 onto a raid?
[12:55] <PaRaD0xxR> it works fine on a 2nd test system (w/o an actual ups attached)
[12:56] <prth|AFK> i setup a virtualbox vm of ubuntu 14.04 but my menu bar is still shown on the top most shell bar
[12:57] <prth> is anyone else facing such issue?
[12:57] <Rory> prth: Could you maybe show a screenshot highlighting what you mean? And explain how you'd like ot to look like
[12:58] <alexherbo2> Hi
[12:58] <Rory> It might not be an "issue" so much as just a personal prefernece
[12:58] <alexherbo2> Where is located ubuntu-mono-light theme?
[12:59] <junka> prth, i face this with all the apps on 14.04
[12:59] <junka> unless they are maximized
[12:59] <alexherbo2> want see background colour of panel
[13:00] <gingitsune> ActionParsnip, got it solved, thanks :)
[13:00] <alexherbo2> i dont use ubuntu at the time, but i want pick coulour for my i3 config
[13:00] <Tiensbakung> alexherbo2: /usr/share/themes?
[13:00] <alexherbo2> Tiensbakung: I use Exherbo
[13:00] <Gallomimia> can anyone help me install ubuntu on a raid5?
[13:00] <alexherbo2> no Ubuntu installed on my machine
[13:01] <alexherbo2> can you paste me the config?
[13:01] <Newton95> Hello
[13:01] <Gallomimia> hi
[13:01] <Tiensbakung> alexherbo2: sorry, running debian now
[13:01] <Newton95> Can i get Ubuntu irc membership ?
[13:01] <mgolisch> Gallomimia: you mean using software raid?
[13:01] <Newton95> in the group of users
[13:01] <alexherbo2> no problem
[13:01] <junka> I want too :D
[13:02] <Gallomimia> mgolisch: i can only assume that's the best way
[13:02] <Pici> !membership | Newton95
[13:02] <Gallomimia> the motherboard has some kind of raid feature. i assume that's "fakeraid" which is.... bad? i don't even know
[13:05] <Slart> Gallomimia: it usually is fakeraid if it's already on the motherboard.. ie if your motherboard breaks you'll have to get the exact same motherboard again or you might lose all your information
[13:05] <Gallomimia> that sounds happy
[13:05] <Gallomimia> software raid is my favorite!
[13:06] <Gallomimia> i haven't even built a raid yet and i already decided that
[13:06] <Slart> Gallomimia: oh.. and raid5 might not be in your best interest.. there are other configurations that have less problems
[13:06] <Gallomimia> what other configuration would i want with 3 identical drives?
[13:06] <Slart> Gallomimia: hmm.. what are you looking for? reliability or speed?
[13:07] <Gallomimia> yes.
[13:07] <Gallomimia> im sorry, it doesn't sound obvious from my terse answer. i value both equally
[13:08] <Gallomimia> plus i have a pair of ssd's i want to add with something called dm-cache
[13:09] <Slart> Gallomimia: hmm.. buy another drive to give you more options?
[13:09] <Slart> =)
[13:10] <Gallomimia> i did that. but they're not identical to the others
[13:10] <Gallomimia> oh well
[13:10] <Gallomimia> raid 10 you thunk?
[13:10] <Slart> Gallomimia: well.. give it a go.. but beware of the pitfalls
[13:10] <Gallomimia> there can't be any pitfalls. i can't even get past step 1 :P
[13:12] <Slart> Gallomimia: what was your question about raid? I didn't read your original question
[13:12] <Gallomimia> Slart: i want to install ubuntu on one
[13:12] <Gallomimia> i haven't even answered the question about what filesystem to use
[13:13] <Gallomimia> yet i can't get any install media to work and have the option to do so
[13:13] <Slart> Gallomimia: perhaps the server edition offers more options during install
[13:13] <Slart> !search raid
[13:13] <Slart> !raid
[13:14] <Gallomimia> is a server edition going to be any good at playing games?
[13:14] <mgolisch> you can install the desktop metapackage afterwards it will be just like the desktop edition
[13:14] <Slart> Gallomimia: afaik it's the same thing.. just you have to install the gui stuff yourself
[13:14] <Gallomimia> interesting
[13:14] <mgolisch> but i dont think the desktop editions installer allows for advanced installation options like installing on software raid
[13:15] <Gallomimia> aye it doesn't seem to
[13:15] <Gallomimia> more research on the fabled LVM first
[13:15] <Slart> Gallomimia: but I have to go make some dinner.. read the links ubottu mentioned.. perhaps try the install in a vm first if you're unsure of the procedure
[13:15] <Slart> good luck
[13:16] <Gallomimia> heh. vm is something i'd planned to learn next
[13:18] <Zipper2014> Gallomimia: Voice Mail (vm) is easy to learn.
[13:18] <Gallomimia> :)
[13:18] <Gallomimia> i hate voicemail. so much
[13:19] <Zipper2014> I do to. I answer it once a month.
[13:19] <Gallomimia> aw i cant do that i only get 3 spots in my inbox
[13:19] <Zipper2014> Why 3?
[13:20] <Gallomimia> cause the providers are crooks
[13:20] <locodir-user> Hi!
[13:20] <Gallomimia> and make believe that billing more money grants magical powers like having lots of inbox space
[13:20] <Zipper2014> Gallominia: If I may can ask, what country are you from?
[13:20] <Gallomimia> canada
[13:20] <Gallomimia> it's very very late
[13:20] <Gallomimia> 0620 in the morning
[13:21] <Zipper2014> And what provider do you have?
[13:21] <Gallomimia> shaw
[13:21] <Gallomimia> oh the cellular is virgin mobile
[13:21] <Zipper2014> Do you guys have Verizon?
[13:21] <Gallomimia> no
[13:21] <Gallomimia> only commercials for verizon
[13:21] <Zipper2014> AT& sucky T?
[13:21] <Gallomimia> no
[13:21] <Gallomimia> lots of commercials for those too
[13:21] <Gallomimia> there are no american providers whatsoever in canada
[13:22] <Gallomimia> they're illegal aliens.
[13:22] <Zipper2014> Well I have had Virgin moble in the past and was never mimited on voice mail.
[13:22] <Gallomimia> well i am
[13:22] <Gallomimia> its cheap tho
[13:22] <Gallomimia> i like it
[13:22] <Gallomimia> 40 bucks a month after tax and all features never an overage. i don't use strongly
[13:23] <Gallomimia> time for a dd
[13:23] <Zipper2014> If you're happy with it then go for it. =) But I know a lot of people are on tight budgets. So I can understand the need for something cheap.
[13:23] <Gallomimia> i just dislike voicemail
[13:23] <OerHeks> Gallomimia, Zipper2014 please keep this channel clear for support, join #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat thanks
[13:23] <Gallomimia> no visual display on who sent it
[13:23] <Zipper2014> I say that in a none judegmental and loving way.
[13:23] <Gallomimia> yeah why we talking about voicemail. i wanna install ubuntu on a raid
[13:23] <Zipper2014> lol
[13:23] <Gallomimia> especially now that ive ditched the amd card
[13:24] <Gallomimia> i also wanna install ubuntu on my phone. fxos is teh-suck
[13:24] <Zipper2014> Well I am trying to get Ubuntu to work. This is number 8 on the install.
[13:25] <rAg3> i am not able to import cer certificate for my vpn in network manager, how do i resolve this ?
[13:25] <Zipper2014> I am not sure what Ubuntu does with the installers, but mine is VERY wacky.
[13:25] <Gallomimia> i dislike the ubuntu installer greatly so far. but it is by far the best working one of any FOSS distro
[13:25] <Gallomimia> so, very difficult to complain
[13:25] <Zipper2014> What is a "FOSS Distro"?
[13:25] <Gallomimia> plus it's like free. so... there
[13:26] <Gallomimia> "foss" is free and open sourced software
[13:26] <Gallomimia> distro means flavor
[13:26] <Zipper2014> Got you. Well I am having issues with my PC not being able to boot from the installed OS.
[13:26] <Zipper2014> I am currently trying one last thing before I am at a lost.
[13:26] <Gallomimia> mine won't boot properly either. mostly cause i changed the graphics card
[13:27] <Zipper2014> I am kinda worried about the graphics. I have a Navdia GeForce GTX 260 card.
[13:27] <Zipper2014> Not sure if there is a good working driver or not.
[13:28] <Gallomimia> well i can tell you that it's better chance than nvidia
[13:28] <Gallomimia> er, ati
[13:28] <clue_h> Zipper2014, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia
[13:28] <Gallomimia> damn
[13:29] <Gallomimia> i should check this too
[13:30] <Gallomimia> aw mine's not on there :/
[13:30] <dw1> Zipper2014: i may have some idea of what to do now without changing the bios (which would be easier)
[13:31] <Zipper2014> Will boot repair help me any?
[13:31] <Zipper2014> dw1: Hubby looked at my bios and said I was in legacy mode. Which is why I was unable to see the other options.
[13:32] <dw1> Zipper2014: dont know about that.  your comp had EFI set up before so its prob. configured to boot from EFI
[13:32] <Guest48011> Hello, I am using Pinguy Linux 12.04 which is based off Ubuntu. I am hoping someone will be ale to help me. Updates are hanging 100% [Connecting to packages.medibuntu.org]
[13:32] <Guest48011>  And there is no pinguy help on xchat
[13:32] <OerHeks> Zipper2014, maybe the UEFI wiki is any help
[13:32] <OerHeks> !uefi
[13:32] <dw1> Zipper2014: so I think we need to create a new EFI partition and do that properly
[13:32] <OerHeks> Guest48011, pinguy is not supported here, it has its own issues
[13:33] <Zipper2014> OerHeks: Thank you. I will take a look. Even though I am starting to be all linked out. haha
[13:33] <OerHeks> Guest48011, medibuntu is dead for some time now
[13:33] <Zipper2014> dw1: Let me finish this one thing and if this does not work, we will go with your ideas. And thank you kindly for your time.
[13:34] <Guest48011> OerHeks, I see, thank you. I would like to go about the problem as if it were Ubuntu 12.04 and see what happens. Is there a way to get the updates to download from somewhere else?
[13:34] <OerHeks> Guest48011, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu , solution: install restricted extras
[13:34] <Zipper2014> dw1: Could one install an older version of Ubuntu and then upgrade from there?
[13:35] <Guest48011> OerHeks, thank you i will have a look
[13:35] <calvinmetcalf> upgrading ubuntu sever from 12.04 to 14.04
[13:35] <calvinmetcalf> getting errors ala Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en
[13:35] <rAg3> k]
[13:35] <calvinmetcalf> er 'Err http://us-east-1.ec2.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en'
[13:35] <calvinmetcalf> followed by
[13:35] <calvinmetcalf> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/NgEUVGg3
[13:36] <dw1> Zipper2014: probably, if it cant be avoided
[13:36] <calvinmetcalf> this the right place for that
[13:36] <calvinmetcalf> * for help with that
[13:37] <dw1> Zipper2014: what you really need is an expert to guide with setting up UEFI system from scratch
[13:37] <dw1> Zipper2014: theres a lot i dont really know
[13:38] <Zipper2014> dw1: Well we can try what you do know. I mean I am not loosing anything. Other think needing to reinstall again.
[13:38] <dw1> Zipper2014: I believe it involves 1) EFI partition 200mb 2) GPT parition (unknown mb) 3) large partition for Ubuntu 4) another GPT parition
[13:38] <dw1> Zipper2014: i dont know any of it.. learning as I go
[13:40] <Zipper2014> dw1: Well I thankfully have one working PC and I have all my data backed up. So if it fails, well it fails. The only thing I ask is that I still have the option to install windows in the chance I may need it. I am personlly a linux lover, but games and linux can be a fun task.
[13:40] <Electron_Pulses> how to enable hibernate in ubuntu 14.04 32bit
[13:40] <bigred15> anyone installed ncmpcpp from git?
[13:41] <dw1> Zipper2014: then I would say install Windows first, and it will probably set up all the partitions too
[13:41] <Zipper2014> dw1: I am ahead of you. I did do that.
[13:41] <Zipper2014> But then I installed Ubuntu again.
[13:41] <syeekick> i have to keep stop and starting lightdm.. any ideas?
[13:41] <syeekick> iit freezes up
[13:41] <Zipper2014> And I it is all gone.
[13:42] <dw1> Zipper2014: ahh you needed to make a space for ubuntu ..
[13:42] <dw1> Zipper2014: not wipe the disk
[13:42] <Zipper2014> I always do a clean install. SO I delete windows and install the linux.
[13:43] <dw1> Zipper2014: you cant have both if you do that
[13:43] <Zipper2014> What do you mean?
[13:43] <dw1> Zipper2014: you can install windows first, then resize the main drive and install ubuntu in the space and have both
[13:44] <Zipper2014> Oh I am ok just having Linux.
[13:44] <Zipper2014> I could install windows in a VB
[13:44] <dw1> Zipper2014: that wont be as good for games tho
[13:44] <Joel> does anyone have a link to a doc talking about ubuntu 13.x and adding a self signed cert to openjdk 7's default keystore?
[13:44] <Zipper2014> dw1: The game I mainly play is wow. Which will work on linux. I use crossover.
[13:44] <dw1> Zipper2014: the underlying OS will take up a lot of power
[13:46] <dw1> Zipper2014: so you have ubuntu on now
[13:46] <dw1> Zipper2014: how are your partitions
[13:46] <Zipper2014> I installed Ubuntu 14.04. I am now running the Boot Repair thing.
[13:46] <dw1> Zipper2014: that might work
[13:46] <Zipper2014> And now I am about to see if this works.
[13:46] <Zipper2014> Well when it gets done.
[13:47] <Gape> Is there any way to check which account im using with ubuntu one? I can't find any indicator, but there is a popup that says my files were uploaded but they don't appear on one.ubuntu.com
[13:47] <Zipper2014> It does say "gksudo not found" and "gksu not found".
[13:47] <Zipper2014> In the command window.
[13:48] <dw1> Zipper2014: thats strage.. they should be there
[13:48] <Zipper2014> Will this boot repair fix that?
[13:48] <Gape> Also i'm running ubuntu 14.04 but I don't have locally integrated menus into windows, is there a way to enable that?
[13:48] <clue_h> dw1, same for me in 14.04, interesting as it is recommended to run gui things that need root privs with it and not sudo alone
[13:48] <dw1> Zipper2014: i think it might need them
[13:49] <xlusive> Hi Gape
[13:49] <Gape> nvm, i found the option for integrated menus
[13:49] <dw1> clue_h: ive got it, but upgraded from 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04
[13:49] <xlusive> great
[13:49] <Gape> But I'm still wondering about ubuntu one, is there a way to check what account I'm using?
[13:50] <bigred15> isnt Ubuntu One dead? or about to be dead?
[13:50] <Gape> Well in a month
[13:50] <dw1> Zipper2014: boot-repair shouldnt take very long
[13:50] <clue_h> supposed to be soon
[13:51] <dw1> only the cloud file storage and music store? are down.. One is still used for some other things i believe
[13:51] <dw1> going down*
[13:52] <dw1> but I uninstalled all the packages with no prob
[13:53] <junka> !12.10
[13:53] <junka> !eol 12.10
[13:53] <junka> !eol
[13:54] <PaRaD0xxR> hi, I'm trying to run gapcmon to monitor my ups, but it hangs (I have to control-c to get a prompt back) the terminal/CLI when I try to run it on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, any idea where to begin a diagnosis?
[13:54] <syeekick> i have to keep stop and starting lightdm.. any ideas?
[13:54] <PaRaD0xxR> I've tried the .deb and compiling the .bz2, and neither will open
[13:55] <PaRaD0xxR> gapcmon 0.8.9
[13:55] <dw1> Zipper2014: if youre getting that error you might need to run sudo apt-get install gksu so things work correctly
[13:55] <Zipper2014> dw1: Should I stop the repair thing and install the missing things?
[13:55] <dw1> Zipper2014: might as well
[13:55] <dw1> Zipper2014: it shouldnt take more than a minute or so
[13:56] <dw1> Zipper2014: probably much less...
[13:56] <nvrpunk> anyone else ran into memory leaks in Trusty on Gnome?
[13:56] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: you installed from the repository?
[13:57] <dw1> Zipper2014: boot-repair, that is
[13:57] <nvrpunk> I just had nautilus refuse to fork due to lack of memory, i have 12 Gigs
[13:57] <PaRaD0xxR> I thought so mgolisch, and I found a .bz2 also
[13:57] <PaRaD0xxR> it was working at first
[13:57] <Zipper2014> dw1: It will not allow me to install it.
[13:57] <Zipper2014> dw1: It says "Unable to locate package gksu.
[13:58] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: does it spit out any messages?
[13:58] <Zipper2014> dw1: Should I  try to restart the OS and try again?
[13:58] <dw1> Zipper2014: youre on a liveusb?
[13:58] <PaRaD0xxR> no, when I do /usr/bin/gapcmon from the CLI, the term just hangs
[13:58] <Zipper2014> Yes, I am on the Live OS.
[13:58] <syeekick> my lightdm freezes every now and then i have to enter a tty to restart liightdm with "sudo service lightdm restart"
[13:58] <dw1> Zipper2014: try sudo apt-get update first
[13:58] <PaRaD0xxR> when I try the apcups monitor via dash, the icon loads, but just blinks
[13:58] <PaRaD0xxR> and never actually opens
[13:59] <dw1> Zipper2014: then the install again
[13:59] <dw1> Zipper2014: reboot shouldnt change anything
[13:59] <Zipper2014> dw1: k
[14:00] <nvrpunk> syeekick: yeah sadly Trusty is still like Beta and not so much final
[14:00] <PaRaD0xxR> the show tray icon option wasn't working, so I found some site that advised to make hardlinks to the icons..or something, but that I noticed it stopped working after that, I've removed and then reinstalled, no dice
[14:00] <Zipper2014> dw1: Does the update take a while for you? It does for me. ABout 1 to 3 minutes or more.
[14:01] <dw1> Zipper2014: well if its the first time it ever ran it has a lot to download
[14:01] <dw1> Zipper2014: mirrors could be busy.  is your connection fast?
[14:01] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: what exactly did you change?
[14:02] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: and did you reverse that?
[14:02] <Zipper2014> dw1: I have 50/Mbps Download and 10/Mbps Upload.
[14:02] <dw1> Zipper2014: wow. :)
[14:02] <PaRaD0xxR> I'm kind of a noob with *nix, so I'm not positive...I can find what I did exactly if that'd help...
[14:03] <PaRaD0xxR> sudo ln ../icons/gapcmon/online.png online.png
[14:03] <PaRaD0xxR> like 5 of those, to diff icon files
[14:03] <PaRaD0xxR> trying to reverse that, I just replaced ln with rm
[14:04] <mgolisch> yeah
[14:04] <PaRaD0xxR> to all 5 or so lines
[14:04] <PaRaD0xxR> didn't work either before or after doing that
[14:04] <mgolisch> hm
[14:04] <PaRaD0xxR> it had been working..but I tried to mess with it
[14:04] <PaRaD0xxR> it loaded fine, then I did the ln thing....and then poof
[14:04] <dw1> Zipper2014: does sudo efibootmgr show an error?
[14:05] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: so are the links still there?
[14:05] <PaRaD0xxR> how do I check that?
[14:05] <Zipper2014> dw1: So you guys recommend HP for the best printer that works with Linux?
[14:05] <PaRaD0xxR> only been using ubuntu since Nov., so I'm noob-ish ;)
[14:05] <dw1> Zipper2014: dont know
[14:05] <Zipper2014> dw1: When this is done I will check and see. =)
[14:05] <PaRaD0xxR> coming from windows
[14:05] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: look in the directory you created them
[14:06] <PaRaD0xxR> not even sure what that command does
[14:06] <PaRaD0xxR> tbh
[14:06] <PaRaD0xxR> k, and look for what?
[14:07] <PaRaD0xxR> I think they're still there, I see all the png files in /usr/share/pixmaps
[14:08] <dw1> Zipper2014: are you in the graphical desktop
[14:08] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: maybe try to rm them
[14:08] <dw1> Zipper2014: or did you press ctrl-alt-f1/f2 for a full terminal
[14:09] <PaRaD0xxR> so now, they're in both locations
[14:09] <Zipper2014> dw1: I am using a graphical interface.
[14:09] <PaRaD0xxR> the website said to go to /usr/share/pixmaps, and run those ln commands
[14:09] <PaRaD0xxR> so where should I remove them from?
[14:09] <dw1> Zipper2014: k.  you could open a 2nd terminal if you wanted to go crazy... :P
[14:09] <mgolisch> where you created them
[14:09] <dw1> Zipper2014: still updating??
[14:10] <mgolisch> in /usr/share/pixmaps then
[14:10] <PaRaD0xxR> k
[14:10] <Zipper2014> dw1: The command sudo efibootmgr gives me the following error, "Comand not found".
[14:10] <mgolisch> but only those you created there
[14:10] <mgolisch> :)
[14:10] <PaRaD0xxR> lemme try that
[14:10] <PaRaD0xxR> so, rm all the png files in there then
[14:10] <dw1> Zipper2014: did you install with the encryption again?
[14:11] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: but only the ones your linked there
[14:11] <Zipper2014> For the home folder. Not the entire OS.
[14:11] <dw1> Zipper2014: nice
[14:11] <mgolisch> otehrwise many apps will miss their icons
[14:11] <mgolisch> :)
[14:11] <dw1> Zipper2014: that may help
[14:12] <PaRaD0xxR> well, right
[14:12] <dw1> Zipper2014: will full disk encrypted it makes it harder to access the files and do some repair things on hd OS from live OS
[14:12] <Zipper2014> dw1: When using the following command "Sudo apt-get install gksu" (Without the "") I get the same erro message.
[14:12] <dw1> Zipper2014: with*
[14:13] <PaRaD0xxR> k...getting somewhere
[14:13] <dw1> Zipper2014: ok.  but you installed boot-repair, and when you run it, the application loads and displays?
[14:13] <PaRaD0xxR> spit out some messages now
[14:13] <PaRaD0xxR> supposed I use paste.ubuntu.com, no?
[14:13] <PaRaD0xxR> hmm
[14:13] <Zipper2014> dw1: Let me make sure, but I want to say yes.
[14:13] <lawnewbie> anyone play Market Glory?
[14:14] <PaRaD0xxR> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7373185/
[14:14] <Zipper2014> dw1: The first box that pops up says "EFI detected. Please check the options.". I click on the "ok" button.
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> lawnewbie  wrong channel
[14:14] <dw1> Zipper2014: nice
[14:15] <lawnewbie> MonkeyDust: i just ask :3
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> lawnewbie  i just say
[14:15] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: so it now misses its icons, you said you enabled some tray icon mode or something, you probably need to undo that, acording to launchpad the package has been removed because this is broken
[14:15] <dw1> Zipper2014: just apply the recommended changes
[14:15] <lawnewbie> hahhahhaha :v
[14:15] <mgolisch> maybe you should try some alternate frontend or another monitoring suite like nut instead
[14:15] <Zipper2014> dw1: It then says "Recommended repair (Repairs most frequent problems) OR "Create Bootinfo summary".
[14:15] <PaRaD0xxR> yeah, but how do I disable that option, without being able to load it? :)
[14:15] <PaRaD0xxR> I can't get that to connect either ;)
[14:16] <dw1> Zipper2014: do the recommended and apply it
[14:16] <PaRaD0xxR> "error connecting to local host, errno 111, connection refused". when I try to load nut
[14:16] <lawnewbie> anyone has upgrade ur os?? :D
[14:16] <Zipper2014> dw1: This time I get no error message.
[14:17] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: it probably created some config file in a dot dir in your homedirectory
[14:17] <dw1> Zipper2014: hmm
[14:17] <dw1> Zipper2014: makes no sense but ok
[14:17] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: or under ~/.config/
[14:17] <endaras> Anyone know why i can't get a bash script to run as a keyboard hotkey?
[14:17] <Zipper2014> dw1: It said reinstalling something and now it seems to be working.
[14:17] <endaras> the command to run the script works fine in terminal
[14:18] <dw1> Zipper2014: sounds great
[14:18] <dw1> Zipper2014: reboot after :)
[14:18] <dw1> Zipper2014: without the live usb
[14:18] <PaRaD0xxR> hmm
[14:19] <PaRaD0xxR> just is annoying it was workign just fine for a while
[14:19] <Zipper2014> dw1: "An error occured during the repair: http://paste2.org/ntVO1X7c"
[14:20] <endaras> Anyone know why i can run a bash script in terminal no problem but if i use the same command as a keyboard hotkey the script doesnt run?
[14:21] <PaRaD0xxR> I swore I got those messages about missing icons before, even when it was loading....now I get those, and it won't open...hmm
[14:21] <endaras> scripts have 700 permissions
[14:21] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: because you enabled the tray mode, its incompatible with ubuntus new notification area
[14:22] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: youd have to remove whatever config file it saves that to
[14:22] <Debolaz2_> Has AUFS been removed from the Linux kernels in 14.04?
[14:22] <Zipper2014> dw1: It would not boot from HD.
[14:22] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: maybe check dconf-editor if you see any settings there
[14:22] <PaRaD0xxR> hrm..looking, not sure what to look for
[14:23] <dw1> Zipper2014: yeah, it wouldnt with an error
[14:23] <Debolaz2_> I've tried first linux-virtual, and then linux-generic... I can't get AUFS to work.
[14:23] <economicallyviab> can someone lend me a hand? Ubuntu will not save my monitor configuration for the life of me
[14:24] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: install dconf-editor and run it, then change /apps/gapcmon/controller/use_systray
[14:24] <Gallomimia> what is a useful filesystem for a raid5 from which i will boot, and pair with a dm-cache to twin SSDs (planning raid0)
[14:24] <economicallyviab> ive tried saving the config using catalyst control, the ubuntu display settings, ive tried the FOSS display drivers, whenever i reboot my monitors are wrong
[14:25] <mgolisch> Gallomimia: why do you want such a complicated setup?
[14:25] <Gallomimia> heard it would go fast :P
[14:26] <dw1> Zipper2014: back in live?
[14:26] <pchero> exit
[14:26] <Zipper2014> dw1: Yes.
[14:26] <Guest57880> o wkoncu xchat dziala
[14:26] <dw1> Zipper2014: open terminal and do #3-7 from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure with /dev/sda2 instead of /dev/sda1
[14:27] <Guest57880> o wkoncu xchat dziala
[14:27] <Gallomimia> i don't know anything about what filesystems are worth a hoot under raids and encrypted lvm
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Gallomimia: I dont belivee you will see much speed improvent with 2 SSDs in RAID0
[14:27] <dw1> Zipper2014: maybe we can fix it manually..
[14:27] <Guest57880> xchat i working \o/
[14:27] <PaRaD0xxR> mgolisch: I installed that, ran it, but I don't see gapcmon in the apps bit
[14:27] <Guest57880> any1 PL?
[14:28] <Gallomimia> it's been suggested i just use the two ssd's as separate caches
[14:28] <PaRaD0xxR> I also get this when I run that dconf-editor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7373289/
[14:30] <dubey> Hello
[14:30] <endaras> Can anyone help me with a problem where i can't get a bash script to execute as a keyboard hotkey?
[14:31] <dw1> Zipper2014: you can copy and paste just by highlighting the text and middle mouse button in terminal
[14:31] <dubey> I am using Ubuntu 12.04, 3.2.0-61-generic #92-Ubuntu SMP
[14:31] <endaras> the scripts have executable permissions
[14:31] <Gape> In startup applicatin, I use "/usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/sdb4"  to mount sdb4 on startup. I want to add sdb3 as well, but if I add it as another command they previous one simply gets deleted (probably because it's similar). Any idea on how I could mount both partitions?
[14:31] <dubey> and since last week, not able to shoutdown or reboot my laptop. When i try to do so it seems to be logout and login screen comes again
[14:32] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: it probably uses the older gconf think, maybe you need to install gconf-editor and look there
[14:32] <dubey> I found some solutions like updating grub.cfg but it didn't fixed my problem
[14:32] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: alternatively you could edit the xml files manualy in ~/.gconf/apps/gapcmon/
[14:32] <mgolisch> if they exist there
[14:32] <Zipper2014> dw1: Working on it.
[14:32] <mgolisch> endaras: how did you set that up?
[14:33] <endaras> the keyboard hotkey?
[14:33] <PaRaD0xxR> yay, it's there
[14:33] <PaRaD0xxR> unchecked use tray...see if this works
[14:33] <Regz> join #prologin
[14:33]  * PaRaD0xxR crosses fingers
[14:34] <mgolisch> endaras: yes
[14:34] <burak> selam
[14:34] <PaRaD0xxR> yay!
[14:34] <PaRaD0xxR> thank you so much mgolisch!
[14:35] <endaras> the command in the keyboard hotkey is "bash ~/Desktop/Bash/decBrightness.sh"
[14:35] <mgolisch> PaRaD0xxR: np
[14:36] <lawnewbie> anyone, i have a problem on my cheese webcam. it said one or more needed GStreamer elemets are missing:cluttervideosink
[14:36] <lawnewbie> anyone? :((
[14:36] <mAlzmci> hi
[14:37] <dyu> need help with ecryptf/fstab. this is how it looks like in /etc/mtab: /var/lib/.postgresql /var/lib/postgresql ecryptfs rw,ecryptfs_sig=dba5ed7952a1184d,ecryptfs_cipher=aes,ecryptfs_key_bytes=32,ecryptfs_unlink_sigs 0 0. i just put this into my fstab. /var/lib/.postgresql /var/lib/postgresql ecryptfs rw,ecryptfs_sig=dba5ed7952a1184d,ecryptfs_cipher=aes,ecryptfs_key_bytes=32,ecryptfs_unlink_sigs,key=passphrase:passphrase_passwd_file=/root/ecryptfs/postgresql,noauto
[14:38] <Tiensbakung> endaras: try abosulte path, /home/[user name/....
[14:38] <Zipper2014> dw1: On the update part. ABout to do the upgrade one.
[14:39] <lawnewbie> anyone, i have a problem on my cheese webcam. it said one or more needed GStreamer elemets are missing:cluttervideosink
[14:39] <dw1> Zipper2014: no need, you can stop at 7 :)
[14:39] <endaras> Tiensbakung: just changed it , still not working
[14:39] <mgolisch> endaras: i think you need to use absolute paths
[14:39] <mgolisch> endaras: i dont think ~/ works in that
[14:39] <Zipper2014> dw1: Now what do I do?
[14:40] <dw1> Zipper2014: sudo apt-get install grub-efi
[14:40] <endaras> mgolisch: yeah, just tried that still isnt working
[14:41] <mgolisch> endaras: works for me, is the file executable?
[14:41] <Zipper2014> dw1: Ok what now?
[14:41] <maheanuu> I have been using Ubuntu 12.04.2 and maintaining the upgrades for years,  It has gotten to the point where  am having serious problems and now  I am showing that I must restart my computer over and over again and nothing happens after the restart my litte gear in the upper rt. corner returns to red in about 10 minutes and the sequence begins again.  I could use some help or ideas please
[14:41] <Tiensbakung> endaras: try adding #!/bin/bash to the beginning of the script, not use bash [path-to-script]
[14:41] <mgolisch> endaras: you could test if its executed by placing something like "echo test > /tmp/test" into the script, then you can look if it created that file
[14:41] <endaras> Tiensbakung: thats what i have atm
[14:42] <endaras> mgolisch: yep they are executable
[14:42] <endaras> mgolisch: i'll try that now
[14:42] <Slart> maheanuu: it's hard to tell from just that description what might be wrong.. are there error messages in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/kern.log ?
[14:42] <dw1> Zipper2014: did it do something?
[14:43] <maheanuu> Slart, there is no error message
[14:43] <Zipper2014> dw1: Yes. It installed whatever that was.
[14:43] <dw1> Zipper2014: nice.  can you post the output of sudo efibootmgr to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:43] <Zipper2014> If I knew how to get to the main desktop.
[14:44] <dw1> Zipper2014: select text and middle mouse button on the site works good
[14:44] <maheanuu> Slart, sorry I didn't complete the read, let me open those and paste them to you, I am an older than dirt gnubie trying to stay afloat
[14:44] <endaras> mgolisch: ok when the scripts are run from the terminal they create the test file, but not from the shortcut
[14:45] <Zipper2014> dw1: I did Ctrl+Alt+F1 and I need out of this command.
[14:45] <dw1> Zipper2014: alt-f7
[14:45] <endaras> i'll paste the script and the keyboard shortcut
[14:45] <dw1> Zipper2014: ctrl-alt-f1 wasnt necessary could have done it all in GUI and saved a lot of trouble :)
[14:46] <dw1> Zipper2014: actually your irc is a separate computer so not much trouble
[14:46] <dw1> Zipper2014: would be easier to load the web page on working comp and have temrinal beside it :)
[14:46] <Zipper2014> Well the screen is gone now. How to I get it again?
[14:46] <Slart> !pastebin | maheanuu
[14:47] <Zipper2014> Slart: Give copy and past my best.
[14:47] <Zipper2014> dw1: So what do I do now?
[14:47] <dw1> Zipper2014: stay in graphic mode so you can paste
[14:48] <dw1> Zipper2014: open terminal and run sudo efibootmgr
[14:48] <dw1> Zipper2014: err actually that wont work
[14:48] <dw1> Zipper2014: its not the chroot environment
[14:48] <endaras> mgolisch , Tiensbakung this is one of the scripts and the keyboard hotkey info : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7373382/
[14:49] <dw1> Zipper2014: lets just go with a reboot from hd
[14:49] <dw1> Zipper2014: see if it worked
[14:49] <dw1> Zipper2014: then back to live-gui if necessary
[14:50] <Zipper2014> dw1: http://tinypic.com/r/2hdz247/8
[14:50] <dw1> Zipper2014: looks good
[14:50] <Zipper2014> dw1: So reboot?
[14:50] <dw1> Zipper2014: yep, and a small prayer
[14:51] <Tiensbakung> endaras: no need bash in the command for key shortcut, #!/bin/bash will do
[14:51] <Tiensbakung> endaras: also try different different shortcut
[14:51] <Zipper2014> dw1: It did not work.
[14:51] <dw1> Zipper2014: actually that efibootmgr entry wasnt what we needed
[14:52] <Zipper2014> dw1: ok
[14:52] <dw1> Zipper2014: that was the usb stick bootmgr
[14:52] <dw1> Zipper2014: i believe
[14:52] <Zipper2014> dw1: The USB stick runs and boots just fine.
[14:53] <endaras> Tiensbakung ok removed the bash and changed the shortcut still nothing
[14:53] <Tiensbakung> endaras: echo >> /tmp/test, to make sure new execution really not taking effect
[14:54] <endaras> yeah i am echoing "blaaa" to /tmp/test in that script
[14:54] <endaras> to test
[14:54] <dw1> Zipper2014: anyway not good :(  in live-gui open web browser and terminal, browse to http://tinyurlcom/ubchroot and only run #3 to 7
[14:54] <Scrivener> Alright, I have a question that spans multiple versions of Ubuntu. In multiple cases, I've gotten errors where it fails to do an upgrade due to low disk space on /boot. I google this and find this issue everywhere.
[14:54] <endaras> it creates the test file in terminal
[14:54] <endaras> not from shortcut
[14:54] <dw1> Zipper2014: http://tinyurl.com/ubchroot
[14:54] <Scrivener> I can't imagine this has gone without some kind of fix for all of this time, as there's no way grandma could really deal with this without help.
[14:54] <Scrivener> Is it just me?
[14:54] <Tiensbakung> endaras: it's working in the terminal, means, the way you create the shortcut is wrong
[14:55] <daninoz> hey guys, in chromium I have a problem with flash, it ask to install it but flashplugin-installer is already installed, what can i do?
[14:55] <Zipper2014> dw1: Is this the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery#Update_Failure?
[14:55] <Tiensbakung> endaras: have no idea how you create the shortcut, you should try look on that
[14:55] <holstein> Scrivener: make the boot larger, or just do automatic partitioning
[14:55] <endaras> Tiensbakung i am creating them from keyboard -> shortcuts -> custom shortcuts
[14:55] <gp5st> hello. 12.04. when I eval `ssh-agent` and then do an ssh-add, I need to enter my password for my key. so far so good.  As I type my password, it appears on the screen! This hasn't happened before so I'm not sure what could be doing it. TERM is set to xterm and sudo doesn't show my password as I type it.
[14:55] <holstein> Scrivener: im quite sure grandma would just do the automatic partitions ;)
[14:55] <dw1> Zipper2014: yes but if you load it on the live-gui you can copy and paste
[14:55] <endaras> don't know any other way than that
[14:56] <mgolisch> endaras: thats what i used and it works for me
[14:56] <Zipper2014> dw1: Also, is it sda1 or sda2?
[14:56] <endaras> hmmm
[14:56] <dw1> Zipper2014: sda2
[14:56] <Tiensbakung> endaras: :-(
[14:57] <LucidGuy> anyone use/familiar with apt-mirror?
[14:58] <endaras> mgolisch any idea why it might not be working on my system?
[14:58] <Scrivener> holstein, I don't think I diverged from the default during install?
[15:00] <mgolisch> endaras: if you copy the path from the shortcut and execute it it works? like the path is correct?
[15:00] <endaras> mgolisch: yes
[15:01] <holstein> Scrivener: the default is all in one partition
[15:01] <Zipper2014> dw1: On the update part now.
[15:01] <holstein> Scrivener: one big system partition, and a swap
[15:01] <dw1> Zipper2014: stop at 7
[15:01] <Scrivener> holstein, oh, I checked the "use LVM" box during installation
[15:01] <Scrivener> I guess that was it then...
[15:01] <blarglblargl> hmmm
[15:02] <holstein> Scrivener: you can confirm by trying without checking that box
[15:02] <Zipper2014> dw1: Does the updates matter?
[15:02] <holstein> Scrivener: but, that still doenst confirm where the problem is
[15:03] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[15:03] <redhere> Hello, i've just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04. After restarting, I get "error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found. Entering rescue mode...
[15:03] <dw1> Zipper2014: no just takes time
[15:03] <dw1> Zipper2014: paste the output of sudo efibootmgr to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:04] <holstein> redhere: you can try something simple like "sudo update-grub" from rescue mode.. though, recovering grub is usually both easy and safe
[15:04] <holstein> redhere: from live CD.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:05] <JokesOnYou77> I'm having a problem installing 14.04 server in a VM.  I tried VirtualBox and instaleld successfully, but couldn't get an internet connection, and when I try Gnome Boxes (QEMU) I get the error: failed to load nic-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic-di failed for unknown reasons
[15:05] <Zipper2014> dw1: Http://tinypic.com/r/312vfjr/8
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> JokesOnYou77  in vbox, change NAT to bridged
[15:06] <redhere> Holstein, can i do that from a 13.10 live dvd, or i need the 14.04 disc?
[15:06] <holstein> redhere: the 13.10 live should work fine..
[15:06] <holstein> redhere: though, i would try the sudo update-grub command first, and look at the messages.. it could be easier than that
[15:07] <JokesOnYou77> MonkeyDust, Good idea! But then what the heck is going on with Gnome boxes?
[15:07] <G__81> i am running 14.04 and i experience a bug where the Libre office writer does not show the maximize, minimize and close buttons
[15:07] <holstein> redhere: looks like some customization in 13.10 is not able to find a file it needs now that 14.04 is updated
[15:07] <G__81> i see this behavior in the write application alone
[15:07] <redhere> Holstein, when i run that command from the grub rescue, it says no such command
[15:07] <redhere> It doesn't recognize sudo
[15:08] <holstein> G__81: i am not.. is that a bug? or do you have some customizations? does this happen from guest user?
[15:08] <dw1> Zipper2014: if we do it again only do 3-7 :)
[15:08] <holstein> redhere: sure.. whatever the equivalent for that will be in that mode
[15:08] <G__81> holstein, no customization default install with all updates installed
[15:08] <holstein> G__81: and, as guest user?
[15:08] <G__81> i didnt check that
[15:08] <Zipper2014> dw1: SO what's next?
[15:09] <dw1> Zipper2014: paste the output of sudo efibootmgr to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:09] <DarkSir> how can i use IRC only with the information which people talk about?
[15:09] <holstein> DarkSir: im not following your question, but you may be looking for #freenode, for questions about this network
[15:11] <Zipper2014> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7373523
[15:11] <Zipper2014> dw1:
[15:13] <dw1> Zipper2014: sudo apt-get install efibootmgr, then paste the output of sudo efibootmgr to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:13] <Joel> does anyone have a java cacerts that's more than 4k in size? du -hs /etc/ssl/certs/java/cacerts
[15:13] <Joel> I feel like I must be hitting a bug that my certs aren't getting added to java's key store
[15:14] <Joel> ubuntu 13.10
[15:14] <scotty^> So I booted the Raring Live CD today (for a test comparison), opened System Settings>Software & Updates, selected multiverse and universe, closed Software & Updates, closed System Settings, opened a terminal and ran sudo apt-get update.  I then reopened System Settings>Software and Updates.  Am I the only one that thinks that this looks a bit odd, possibly even misleading? - http://tinypic.com/r/1znrlmh/8
[15:15] <Slart> scotty^: huh? I must be missing something.. what is wrong?
[15:15] <holstein> scotty^: this? what specifically?
[15:15] <scotty^> Officially supported?
[15:15] <Slart> !13.04
[15:16] <scotty^> Oops, I mean "Officially supported"?
[15:16] <Zipper2014> dw1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7373547
[15:16] <Slart> scotty^: ooohh.. I see.. not really sure what they mean with that
[15:16] <scotty^> yeah, I'm wondering the same thing
[15:17] <Slart> scotty^: might just be part of the description of the cd.. but it might also be a bug... not really sure where that info comes from
[15:17] <Gallomimia> argh! what's the difference between zfs and xfs? they seem so similar
[15:17] <dw1> Zipper2014: oh, hmm
[15:18] <Slart> scotty^: have you tried running   sudo apt-get upgrade    as well? might be a new software sources package out that removes the "officially supported" thing?
[15:18] <scotty^> Does anyone still have a Raring hard disk install to check if it shows the same thing?
[15:18] <scotty^> Slart:  Ah OK, I'll try that, thanks.
[15:18] <mgolisch> Gallomimia: they are not at all, zfs is somekind of hybrid between a filesystem and a logical volume manager with raid capabilities and xfs is just a filesystem
[15:19] <mgolisch> Gallomimia: also i dont think zfs is a good choice for linux
[15:19] <Gallomimia> odd to read about
[15:19] <Gallomimia> is it not stable in the foss world/
[15:19] <holstein> scotty^: i read that as officially supported, as opposed to 3rd party applications or PPA's..
[15:19] <Gallomimia> boo to corporate inventions in the fs department
[15:19] <Zipper2014> http://tinypic.com/r/312iolv/8
[15:19] <Zipper2014> dw1:
[15:20] <mgolisch> Gallomimia: you might want to have a look at btrfs if you are in search for something with similar features to zfs
[15:20] <Gallomimia> mgolisch im still fretting over my extremely complex install planned. what fs to use for a bootable raid5 with lvm encryption :/ my head will explode before i pick one
[15:21] <Gallomimia> then i have questions to answer like extent sizes and block sizes and marvelously obscure reasons for said choices
[15:21] <eN_Joy> i have a fresh setup 14.04 server box, pretty much solely for my openvpn, over days I am seeing steadily increasing memory usage, i.e., when the system was up, the used memory is around  100M, each day when I check with `free -h` I am seeing about 100M increase, today is 900M, should I worry about this? and how do I find out which process is leaking memories?
[15:22] <mgolisch> Gallomimia: id consider using the raid only for data volumes, stuff on / is usualy not realy that important or can easily be recreated
[15:23] <mgolisch> Gallomimia: having the root fs on the raid makes stuff more complicated especialy if you plan to have /boot on that too
[15:23] <Gallomimia> i'm trying to gain speed in that department
[15:23] <mgolisch> so grub would need to construct the raid to actualy load the kernel image
[15:23] <Gallomimia> tho boot is less important than having programs and such run fast
[15:23] <SchrodingersScat> eN_Joy: memory being shown in free doesn't mean that it's inefficient, it's something about how linux uses it, preferring to use it than not.  I think there's a 'linux ate my ram' site that explains in detail
[15:23] <dw1> Zipper2014: in the chrooted terminal what does running this say: [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo "EFI"
[15:24] <mgolisch> now if you add other stuff like lvm and encryption ontop of that it will get realy complicated, id ask myself if realy want that, espcialy if your not skilled with those technologies
[15:24] <eN_Joy> SchrodingersScat: thanks
[15:24] <SchrodingersScat> !memory | eN_Joy
[15:24] <Gallomimia> cached is like free, but free is actually free, and cached has stuff well... cached.
[15:24] <Zipper2014> dw1: What is chrooted terminal?
[15:24] <Gallomimia> this looks good too
[15:24] <dw1> Zipper2014: the one you ran the commands in
[15:26] <SchrodingersScat> eN_Joy: that's not to say you can eliminate the chance of there being a problem, it's just a relatively common comment about free.
[15:27] <eN_Joy> yeah i'm reading the site, it does clarify something...
[15:29] <Zipper2014> dw1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7373668
[15:34] <dw1> Zipper2014: everything looks good to me... i think bios may have secure boot enabled or something that is blocking boot
[15:35] <eclerici2111> ciao
[15:35] <dwara> there ??
[15:36] <dwara> alienspy??
[15:36] <Zipper2014> dw1: Sadly, I am unsure then. I do know that I am not able to see any "special bios". With that said, the OS would not boot on the HD.
[15:36] <dw1> Zipper2014: there is just one bios
[15:36] <dwara> excuse me guys can some one help me out ????
[15:37] <dw1> Zipper2014: secure boot and UEFI are options in the bios that should be able to be turned on and off
[15:37] <Pici> dwara: You need to ask a full question for us to be able to help you.
[15:37] <dwara> how to develop apps for xfce ???
[15:37] <Zipper2014> dw1: None of which are options as far as I am able to see.
[15:37] <dwara> Pici:??
[15:38] <Pici> dwara: Have you asked in #xfce ?
[15:38] <dwara> Pici:yes
[15:38] <Pici> dwara: they would be the best people to ask
[15:38] <apfigueiredo> hi all
[15:38] <apfigueiredo> 14.04 hangs after login
[15:38] <apfigueiredo> it started happening today after update
[15:38] <apfigueiredo> does anyone else have this problem?
[15:39] <apfigueiredo> unity crashes
[15:39] <holstein> apfigueiredo: you can always try running the older kernel.. see if that was updated and helps with the issue..
[15:39] <apfigueiredo> I think the kernel was not updated
[15:39] <holstein> apfigueiredo: from what im reading, i might just try as the guest user, to test my user config
[15:39] <apfigueiredo> holstein: unity is the problem
[15:40] <apfigueiredo> that's a nice try
[15:40] <holstein> apfigueiredo: ok
[15:40] <holstein> apfigueiredo: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html will reset your users config for unity
[15:41] <dw1> Zipper2014: Zipper2014 maybe some boot-repair settings will fix it
[15:41] <redhere> After upgrading to 14.04, I'm able to login, but all I see is my wallpaper. Cannot open any application or the terminal using a hotkey.
[15:41] <dw1> Zipper2014: but you have to unmount the chrooted drive or reboot first
[15:41] <apfigueiredo> redhere: same here
[15:41] <holstein> apfigueiredo: and as the guest user? and after http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html ?
[15:42] <zerowaitstate> redhere: my office mate ran into the same problem.  you may have to kill the hidden folder that has your old unity/compiz config
[15:42] <holstein> redhere: you can also try http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[15:42] <apfigueiredo> holstein: I'll try this now
[15:44] <quint> i'm having trouble using apt-get install. dpkg: error processing linux-image-generic (--configure):
[15:44] <redhere> Holstein, how do i install that? I can't access Ubuntu
[15:44] <redhere> I am getting the same problem with the Guest session as well
[15:45] <holstein> redhere: you dont.. and, if you are getting to your desktop with no wallpaper, thats how you would install sometjhing
[15:45] <holstein> redhere: then, you likely have a larger system error..
[15:48] <redhere> Holstein.. So what should I do?
[15:49] <holstein> redhere: elaborate
[15:49] <holstein> redhere: get to a recovery prompt and run some basics.. disk checks.. memory checks.. etc
[15:50] <redhere> This was working perfectly under 13.10
[15:50] <redhere> I upgraded and now i can only boot to wallpaper
[15:51] <apfigueiredo> holstein: no... guest user doesn't work
[15:52] <apfigueiredo> holstein: I just installed enlightenment desktop
[15:52] <apfigueiredo> to have at least a window manager
[15:52] <apfigueiredo> it happened this morning during last ubuntu update
[15:52] <apfigueiredo> :)
[15:52] <apfigueiredo> :(
[15:52] <Zipper2014> dw1: I will be a few. Meanwhile, is Ubuntu ditching there Ubuntu One app?
[15:52] <apfigueiredo> compiz and unity reset didn't help too
[15:53] <xangua> apfigueiredo: those commands are deprecated, did you install Compiz Settings Manager and check the Unity plugin is enabled there¿
[15:54] <apfigueiredo> xangua, it was enabled, the only possibility is that it was forcefully disabled automatically during ubuntu upgrade this morning
[15:54] <Mixxit> hey guys
[15:54] <Mixxit> anyone know of anything on apt that is a web based geographical map that i can place hosts onto that will turn red if down or green if up (like network monitoring tool?)
[15:55] <apfigueiredo> xangua, but it doesn't make sense... anyway, I cannot start a unity session
[15:55] <xangua> apfigueiredo: what if you delete compiz config from your home
[15:56] <apfigueiredo> xangua, I made my first login as guest-session just to try and it didn't work
[15:56] <apfigueiredo> I could also try to create a new user and attempt to start unity, but I guess results would be the same
[15:57] <apfigueiredo> xangua, I'd like to try to restore the system state before last ubuntu upgrade, but I don't know if this is possible
[15:57] <Jonii> Yay, 14.04 works for me!!
[15:57] <apfigueiredo> did you guys try the last upgrade? was it ok?
[15:57] <Jonii> I'm so happy :')
[15:58] <Zipper2014> Jonii: I wished I had not misread your text. I though you said "I'm so hungry". Now I am hungry.
[15:58] <Jonii> Even though the installation process took a dark turn and I was sort of expecting it to fail due to 12.04 not working either, in just 24h I'm now a happy Ubuntu user on all my computing platforms
[15:59] <Jonii> Zipper2014: now I'm hungry. Brb ->
[15:59] <john_rambo> Is there any facebook app which works with 14.04 ?
[16:01] <xangua> john_rambo: if you mean facebook chat, empathy comes preinstalled
[16:01] <Georg> hi guys. could somebody help me with a hot(un)plug-problem? I get the failure message " SError: { RecovComm Persist PHYRdyChg 10B8B }" in dmesg
[16:02] <Georg> when I unplug
[16:02] <Jonii> Does Ubuntu 14.04 differ in any significant way from Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:02] <john_rambo> xangua: No.....I remember Ubuntu used to include an app for facebook .....Gwibber iirc
[16:03] <holstein> Jonii: yes.. newer packages, and updates.. other cusomizations.. try it live
[16:03] <Georg> of course the hdd was not mounted at that time and I put a "1" in /sys/block/sd[correct-letter]/device/delete
[16:03] <xangua> john_rambo: yes, it now called friends
[16:03] <xangua> !info | friends-app
[16:03] <Jonii> I haven been following Ubuntu ever since 12.04. I remember that there was this "Include online search results" button that caused anger, and I toggled it off. But other than that, this looks exactly like 12.04.
[16:03] <Jonii> holstein: I'm running 14.04 right now, as I just installed it yesterday
[16:04] <holstein> Jonii: check it out, and see the differences.. cheers!
[16:04] <Zipper2014> Jonii: Can I have your PC? You can have mine.
[16:04] <xangua> mmmm don't know why it doesn't show but is in trusty repositories john_rambo  , you also need to enter your facebook info in Online Accounts
[16:04] <Jonii> Zipper2014: sorry, I spend way too much money on this computer, I don't want to give it up :(
[16:04] <Georg> here are the dmesg entries. ignore the german text above the two blocks. the first block is after I put "1" in the delete file of the affected HDD and the second block is after I unplugged
[16:04] <dw1> Zipper2014: i might try those commands @ http://tinyurl.com/ubchroot 3-7 again (with /dev/sda2) in terminal then update-grub and/or grub-install ..
[16:04] <Georg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7373820/
[16:05] <Jonii> Why don't operating systems have hype videos that make all aspects of them look awesome? :/
[16:05] <tmager> they do
[16:05] <Jonii> I want to be hyped about Ubuntu 14.04, why is there no official or semi-official material to help me with that?
[16:05] <tmager> well make some, that's the beauty of community projects
[16:05] <dw1> Zipper2014: im seeing someone say just the installation of grub-efi doesnt install stuff completely.. but i know with other non-efi modes it does, so.. its a bit of a longshot
[16:05] <Jonii> OMG Ubuntu maybe, but they look so amateurish with their hype
[16:06] <apfigueiredo> ppl, last unity base update seemed to crash my unity desktop, is any way to revert this update back to the previous version?
[16:06] <holstein> !14.04
[16:06] <someHuman> Hello!
[16:06] <holstein> Jonii: what are you looking for? the press release?
[16:06] <someHuman> I get this kind of bug in graphics when I'm in Chrome.
[16:06] <apfigueiredo> unity doesn't start even for a newly created user
[16:06] <someHuman> Like my screen flickers?
[16:07] <someHuman> What do I do to resolve it? It doesn't happen often though, but still, it
[16:07] <someHuman> it's annoying*
[16:08] <someHuman> How do I set a memo with an alarm?
[16:08] <SchrodingersScat> someHuman: what are you using for the alarm?
[16:09] <someHuman> SchrodingersScat: No idea?
[16:09] <dw1> Zipper2014: boot-repair reports "Unusual EFI, please report" but also "has-correctEFI" so I don't know that it worked or not.  It may all be set up right just the BIOS is expecting Secure Boot when that's a brand new thing prone to error..
[16:09] <someHuman> SchrodingersScat: I am using Evolution I think?
[16:10] <Jonii> holstein: hype supplementary material. You know, where someone demonstrates a new feature and goes appropriately "Wow, this is so cool"
[16:10] <SchrodingersScat> someHuman: sorry, haven't used that, says it has a calendar in apt.  there is also alarm-clock which you can have it display a message
[16:11] <SchrodingersScat> !info alarm-clock | someHuman
[16:11] <dw1> Zipper2014: actually boot-repair did run grub-install so... dont know what else we can do
[16:11] <Jonii> Usually things have hype supplementary material for them, but I really don't know what's the actual word for them, so I just refer to them as "Hype supplementary material"
[16:11] <dw1> Zipper2014: maybe you have a special windows-only BIOS :-/
[16:11] <Zipper2014> dw1: I have an idea, but first let me try something here.
[16:12] <holstein> Jonii: try youtube.. or feel free and create what you like
[16:12] <SchrodingersScat> Jonii: swag?
[16:12] <Guest68348> ola
[16:14] <someHuman> I am trying to set an appointment via Evolution but I get this error http://imgur.com/FxeGAFv
[16:15] <helo> what should my sources.list be for oneiric?
[16:15] <helo> getting a lot of 404s with the current one
[16:16] <xangua> !eol
[16:16] <xangua> helo: upgrade to a supported ubuntu release
[16:16] <helo> don't have time, machine is shipping in 2 hours
[16:16] <dunkel2> hello
[16:17] <dunkel2> i just upgrade from 13.x to latest but now everytime i log in i see a message that says ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error
[16:17] <helo> oh well, i'll just slap a debootstrap chroot in there i guess
[16:18] <dunkel2> ?
[16:18] <dunkel2> i mean i can log
[16:18] <forgottenarcher> dunkel2: I prefer to do a whole reinstall rather than just just updating
[16:18] <dunkel2> oh i see
[16:19] <dunkel2> so i better reinstall it
[16:19] <dunkel2> and in the reinstall can i keep my files?
[16:19] <dunkel2> or i have to backup first?
[16:19] <forgottenarcher> these updates from  Major release normally break more stuff than they fix
[16:20] <Zipper2014> dw1: May I PM you?
[16:20] <chenqisu123> dunkel2: i think backup first is better
[16:20] <forgottenarcher> if you have a separate home partition then no need for a back up
[16:20] <forgottenarcher> but if you think that a whole, and complete reinstall is better then its probably safer to backup
[16:21] <dunkel2> ok great, thank you
[16:21] <forgottenarcher> your welcome :)
[16:21] <Jonii> dunkel2: does the system work properly though? I've been using 2 years this laptop of mine, which has had every couple of days this "12.04 has experienced internal error" message pop up, but there never was any problem other than having to close that error message window :p
[16:22] <dunkel2> yeah the system works perfect
[16:22] <dunkel2> is just that alert that is bugging me
[16:22] <dunkel2> if i close it everything works as it must
[16:22] <forgottenarcher> Jonii: how can you manage that, those things tick me of so much
[16:22] <forgottenarcher> dunkel2: same here
[16:23] <Zipper2014> dw1: Please note: This is NOT an advertisement or seeking support for this distro. This is solely being used as a source to my Ubuntu 14.04 problem. I just installed Zorin OS/Ubuntu 12.04 and I was able to boot from my HD from the installtion. Can you help me understand why I am unable to withy Ubuntu 14.04?
[16:24] <forgottenarcher> Zipper2014: could you be more specific on your problems ?
[16:24] <Zipper2014> forgottenarcher: Long story short, I am unable to boot from an install if Ubuntu 14.04.
[16:24] <holstein> Zipper2014: different hardware support from different kernels?
[16:24] <ruuth774> good evening
[16:24] <Jonii> forgottenarcher: closing one popup window every couple of days is not exactly a superhuman feat.
[16:25] <forgottenarcher> holstein: I think both Zorin and ubuntu are running the same kernels
[16:25] <holstein> Zipper2014: bad iso for ubuntu.. proprietary driver support included for graphics support from zorin
[16:25] <holstein> forgottenarcher: confirm that..
[16:25] <Zipper2014> Should I try to install Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:25] <holstein> forgottenarcher: if you are looking for details, dont "think" anything.. confirm
[16:25] <ruuth774> is there a GUI package to config settings on a logitech trackball mouse?
[16:25] <holstein> forgottenarcher: lots of distros pacakge proprietary drivers that ubuntu is not allowed to
[16:26] <holstein> !nomodeset | forgottenarcher
[16:26] <holstein> forgottenarcher: you can try nomodeset ^ from ubuntu
[16:27] <Zipper2014> With Zorin installed and working, do you think I will be able to get Ubuntu 14.04 installed and working?
[16:27] <ruuth774> im looking to set scroll on my logitech trackball on trusty, any handy tool for that?
[16:28] <holstein> Zipper2014: nothing about ubuntu is preventing that
[16:28] <forgottenarcher> yea I guess always learning thanks holstein
[16:28] <Zipper2014> holstein: Can you explain?
[16:28] <ruuth774> wich package can edit text on pdf files in ubuntu?
[16:29] <holstein> Zipper2014: sure.. your hardware manufacturer is always welcome to work with the open ubuntu community to make sure your hardware works with ubuntu
[16:29] <mgolisch> holstein: haha, which vendor does that?
[16:29] <holstein> forgottenarcher: i think i was reading this was your issue..
[16:29] <Zipper2014> holstein: How Zorin working and Ubuntu not working? It is using the same OS, just a different skin.
[16:30] <holstein> mgolisch: system76 for example.. many do these days.. intel.. etc
[16:30] <forgottenarcher> no, I was just trying to help Zipper2014
[16:30] <holstein> Zipper2014: as i stated above, when i thought forgottenarcher was having the issue, it could be proprietary drivers that are included in zorin that are not able to be included in ubuntu
[16:30] <holstein> Zipper2014: you can try nomodeset from ubuntu
[16:31] <holstein> Zipper2014: you can comfirm that the kernels are the same.. kernel differences can make or break hardware support..
[16:31] <Zipper2014> holstein: So I am pretty much SOL as far as being able to use Ubuntu 14.04?
[16:31] <forgottenarcher> Zipper2014: what kind of graphics card do you have ?
[16:31] <dw1> holstein: she gets "OS not found" on boot, and nothing seems to fix it
[16:31] <holstein> Zipper2014: ?
[16:31] <Zipper2014> holstein: Can you tell me where to find that info?
[16:31] <dw1> holstein: it makes no sense really
[16:31] <holstein> Zipper2014: i didnt say that at all
[16:31] <Zipper2014> forgottenarcher: I have a GeForce GTX 260.
[16:32] <holstein> Zipper2014: you could have a bad 14.04 image, or installation media... you could have a different kernel in zorin vs ubuntu.. you could have proprietary drivers in zorin that are not able to legally be included in ubuntu
[16:32] <ruuth774> im looking for a handy package to config my scroll buttons on a logitech trackball on trusty, any hints?
[16:32] <holstein> Zipper2014: you can make a list.. and start troubleshooting.. this can be challenging, i understand
[16:34] <holstein> Zipper2014: if 12.04 "just works", you may conisder just using it, since its still supported, and you may not need anything from the later versions.. you can try something like xubuntu 14.04, which may support your hardware "better"
[16:34] <therazr> Hi does anybody here use Ubuntu 14.04 in a baytrail platform?
[16:34] <dw1> Zipper2014: could try ubuntu 12.04 . its supported for a few years yet
[16:34] <Zipper2014> holstein: What command line do I use to see what Zorin is using?
[16:34] <holstein> Zipper2014: you can ask zorin.. but, in most linux its uname -0a
[16:34] <Zipper2014> Honestly, Zorin/Ubuntu 12.04 has some issues.
[16:34] <holstein> uname -a
[16:34] <ruuth774> !info gpointing-device-settings
[16:35] <Rdepablos> Buenas tardes
[16:35] <forgottenarcher> according  to distrowatch the current zorin 8 runs the kernel 3.14.2
[16:36] <Rdepablos> Amig@s necesito.una.pequel ayuda
[16:36] <forgottenarcher> ubuntu's running 3.13.0
[16:36] <therazr> forgottenarcher: no it doesn't. Where have you seen that?
[16:36] <Zipper2014> dw1: forgottenarcher holstein - Http://paste.ubuntu.com/7374114
[16:36] <holstein> Zipper2014: what is your goal for the machine? casual internet?
[16:37] <Zipper2014> Well I am a gamer. So I will be installing Crossover and playing wow.
[16:38] <holstein> Zipper2014: not likely.. thats not a "given"
[16:38] <cer> hi everybody!
[16:38] <holstein> Zipper2014: i suggest you do as you did when learning windows for years.. use native code
[16:38] <Zipper2014> holstein: What do you mean?
[16:38] <forgottenarcher> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=zorin
[16:38] <holstein> !steam | Zipper2014
[16:38] <forgottenarcher> look at the linux package
[16:39] <holstein> Zipper2014: i mean, those games and software provide and promise you windows support.. to move to linux and expect linux support is not always constructive, is never easy, and is sometimes/usually impossible
[16:39] <Zipper2014> holstein: Putting my gaming idea to the side, can you tell me if the kernerals match?
[16:39] <cer> I still have the same WB My Book 3TB which is USB 3 .... I connect it to my machine on a USB 2 port (because I do n ot have a USB 3) ....
[16:39] <mgolisch> if it sais os not found
[16:39] <forgottenarcher> holstein: take a look at that list
[16:39] <cer> the drive is recognised bu is not mounted
[16:39] <holstein> forgottenarcher: what list?
[16:39] <mgolisch> how is that related to kernels or graphics cards
[16:39] <mgolisch> sounds more like a boot issue
[16:39] <cer> is driving me insane .... I have googled to the end of the world and back.
[16:40] <holstein> !mount | cer
[16:40] <therazr> forgottenarcher: no man that number in brackets refers to the latest upstream stable version of it, not the latest one in the Zorin OS
[16:40] <forgottenarcher> the link I just posted
[16:40] <holstein> cer: you can try mounting in the command line, and see if you get any errors
[16:40] <Zipper2014> Do you think I can install Ubuntu 13.05 and go from that to 14.04?
[16:40] <therazr> the latest one is 3.11 for Zorin and 3.13 for Ubuntu 14.04
[16:40] <cer> holstein: well, we are a bit beyond that here ....
[16:40] <forgottenarcher> therazr: ohhhhh.....
[16:40] <holstein> cer: do you get errors?
[16:40] <cer> holstein: I get a strange error in dmesg
[16:40] <forgottenarcher> that just seems silly on there part thou
[16:40] <cer> holstein: Failed to bind enclosure -19
[16:41] <cer> holstein: never heard of this
[16:41] <therazr> Hi does anybody here use Ubuntu 14.04 in a baytrail platform like Asus T100?
[16:41] <sizzle> anyway to pass a parameter to getIndex in a controlller?
[16:42] <sizzle> 	public function getIndex($id = NULL)
[16:42] <dw1> Zipper2014: why not 13.10?  go back one at a time...
[16:42] <holstein> cer: you are using a custom kernel?
[16:43] <cer> holstein: no
[16:43] <dw1> Zipper2014: 13.10 has the added bonus of being supported.. for a couple months
[16:43] <cer> holstein: 3.11.0-20-generic
[16:43] <pseudonymous> Hi. I'm sitting with a canon lide 210. supposedly fully supported via SANE (an acronym I vehemently disagree with) but any variant of sane errs out with "invalid argument" without ever bothering to elaborate which argument that would be
[16:43] <holstein> cer: if it were me, i would fire up a live CD,and see if the thing mounted in there
[16:43] <Zipper2014> dw1: Due to wanting a LTS OS, I was hoping to be able to install and have running the 14.04 version.
[16:44] <cer> holstein: it mounts well under windows 7
[16:44] <Zipper2014> I have been able to also run Zorin 8. Not sure which version of Ubuntu that is.
[16:44] <holstein> Zipper2014: its not one.. if 12.04 worked "out of the box" i would use it
[16:44] <holstein> Zipper2014: have you tried xubuntu 14.04? or the nomodeset option i linked?
[16:44] <Zipper2014> Zorin uses Ubuntu as its main base.
[16:45] <cer> holstein: the most incredible thing is that if I reboot the machine with the My book attached, then it mounts perfectly
[16:45] <cer> holstein: it does not make sense!
[16:45] <Zipper2014> holstein: I have looked at the other "Ubuntu" ones and find them very tasetless in design. I like gui.
[16:45] <apfigueiredo> hope future upgrades fix my unity bug... until there I think I'll net to stick with another desktop session :(
[16:46] <holstein> cer: well, those are such fiddly errors that i always just account by knowing i was not promised linux support with the hardware.. have you experimented with other versions of the kernel? etc?
[16:46] <therazr> Zipper2014: whats your problem with 14.04 lts?
[16:46] <pseudonymous> anyway.. anyone have a clue where to begin with a scanner where you get "invalid argument" when attempting to scan (coming from SANE itself) ? It's fully supported so I don't get this
[16:46] <cer> holstein: nope ....
[16:46] <holstein> Zipper2014: the GUI, unity, can require something from your hardwrae that you cannot provide.. and games will need
[16:46] <mgolisch> cer: what exactly did you do?
[16:47] <Zipper2014> therazr: I am unable to boot from the installation. Once installed and restarted, I cannot boot from it.
[16:47] <holstein> Zipper2014: if you have no "good" 3d support.. you will not want to game on that machine
[16:47] <cer> mgolisch: connected it to the machine
[16:47] <mgolisch> i think the automount stuff doesnt touch anything thats in /etc/fstab
[16:47] <cer> mgolisch: it recognises it, but does not mount
[16:47] <Zipper2014> holstein: Crossover works great for me.
[16:47] <holstein> Zipper2014: crossover works in zorin.. or, 12.04
[16:47] <Zipper2014> Not sure on the 14.04 one though.
[16:47] <cer> mgolisch: but if I reboot with the device attached, it mounts it
[16:47] <therazr> Zipper2014: what is your graphics card?
[16:47] <cer> mgolisch: :(:(:(:(
[16:47] <Zipper2014> GeForce GTX 260.
[16:47] <alan_smith> hello there... I'm trying to install kubuntu or lubuntu on my machine but it's simply impossible, lubuntu boots from usb and installs, but won't boot from disk, even after purging nouveau and installing the proprietary drivers (using command line); kubuntu won't boot from usb. ubuntu boots from usb but i can't stand unity
[16:48] <Jonii> This may not be the right place to ask, but why is firefox asking me to "install" websites?
[16:48] <Jonii> Like youtube or reddit?
[16:48] <alan_smith> should i just try mint? i need a distro with apt and a decent desktop manager
[16:48] <therazr> Zipper2014: try to boot with the 'nomodeset' parameter
[16:48] <Jonii> Couldn find any documentation on such feature in the browser
[16:48] <holstein> cer: i would try some differenent kernel versions.. after applying all upgrades
[16:48] <holstein> alan_smith: desktop manager?
[16:48] <dw1> therazr: it just says No OS found... no grub
[16:48] <cer> holstein: I already have all the upgrade
[16:48] <Zipper2014> therazr: Can you explain what that is and when I go to install Ubuntu, what should I be looking for?
[16:49] <alan_smith> holstein: sorry?
[16:49] <holstein> alan_smith: mint is not supported here, but is based on ubuntu.. anything you want to do you are likely able to do, and welcome to do in/with ubuntu
[16:49] <pseudonymous> Guys... Really.. Does *anyone* use a scanner in here ? Anyone ?
[16:49] <therazr> dw1: did he install grub in the correct hard drive? Is it a UEFI machine Zipper2014 ?
[16:49] <holstein> alan_smith: are you referring to the desktop enviroment? or window manager?
[16:49] <Zipper2014> therazr: I only have 1 HD.
[16:49] <davido__> I just noticed a quirk in 14.04 that probably should be reported, but I'm sort of unclear on how to explain it...
[16:49] <alan_smith> holstein: desktop environment
[16:49] <dw1> therazr: yeah we tried lots of stuff, boot-repair etc, it all seemed to install fine but never boots
[16:49] <holstein> alan_smith: "decent" will be a matter of opion, so just let us know what you are seeking, specificially
[16:50] <holstein> opinion*
[16:50] <alan_smith> holstein: both kubuntu and lubuntu are okay for me (kde lxde)
[16:50] <davido__> When my laptop starts up it almost always pops up an error dialog top-left as soon as the initial welcome/lock screen appears.  This is not the problem of interest.....
[16:50] <dw1> therazr: somewhat fine, anyway.. looked ok.. :)
[16:50] <therazr> dw1 Zipper2014 thats sad
[16:50] <cer> it is driving me insane mgolisch ....
[16:50] <holstein> alan_smith: kubuntu and lubuntu *are* ubuntu.. you can try them, or add lxde and/or kde to your ubuntu
[16:50] <davido__> the problem is that although I can clear the box, that region of the desktop, even after logging in, is dead to mouse clicks.
[16:51] <cer> mgolisch: even parted -l output looks fine
[16:51] <Zipper2014> What is sad therazr?
[16:51] <dw1> Zipper2014: you could try 12.04 then upgrade to 14.04
[16:51] <therazr> dw1: maybe its secureboot creating some problem?
[16:51] <dw1> therazr: yeah
[16:51] <holstein> Zipper2014: are you installing updates during the installation?
[16:51] <mgolisch> cer: do you have an entry in /etc/fstab for that disk? if yes thats why automount doenst do shit
[16:51] <holstein> Zipper2014: you can try *not* doing that.. could be you are updating to a kernel that is not "liking" your graphics.
[16:51] <cer> mgolisch: nope
[16:51] <mgolisch> cer: it will leave allone stuff thats configured in /etc/fstab, atleast thats what i think
[16:51] <holstein> Zipper2014: the 14.04 live CD works for you?
[16:52] <alan_smith> holstein: i had kubuntu installed on my machine but since it was a very old install upgraded many times I decided to just wipe it altogether in order to install a clean one, however, it won't boot from usb :(, lubuntu installed perfectly but won't boot from disk
[16:52] <Zipper2014> Yes, I have installed updates.
[16:52] <cer> mgolisch: ye you are right, not there though
[16:52] <Zipper2014> Yes, the Live USB works for me.
[16:52] <holstein> Zipper2014: that would be a difference between the live CD (that im assuming works) and the installed system, post install
[16:52] <dw1> boot-repair did complain about an "Unusual EFI"
[16:52] <dw1> but otherwise continued
[16:52] <Zipper2014> HOWEVER, it does get stuck on the second step on the install. So I have to quit and redo it again and it goes through.
[16:52] <pseudonymous> Is there a more help-oriented channel I should ask in ? The past 11 times I've been here, I've managed to elicit help once. Is the forum a better venue ?
[16:52] <holstein> alan_smith: i use plop to boot legacy hardwrae from cd, and point to usb boot
[16:53] <holstein> alan_smith: nothing about mint will help faciliate any "Fixes" for your hardware to install an OS
[16:53] <therazr> pseudonymous: define 'better'. Each help channel has its pros and cons, and you might get help in many different ways
[16:53] <holstein> alan_smith: if it were my hardware, i would test the hardware.. sounds like you could have something broken
[16:54] <alan_smith> holstein: the problem is, 'ubuntu' does work correctly, so, I think perhaps mint could work also? ubuntu just works, lubuntu works live but doesn't work from hdd, kubuntu won't boot from usb at all...
[16:54] <pseudonymous> therazr: anything, really.. Acknowledgement that someone read my request for starters. I don't know.. All I know is I bought a scanner based on xsane's own rating and I'm stuck with a cryptic error message..
[16:54] <alan_smith> i don't think the problem is my vga because it's quite old nvidia
[16:55] <davido__> IRC is very transitory in nature; you only get useful responses if someone in the channel at this moment happens to notice your question and considers it answerable in an IRC format.
[16:56] <therazr> pseudonymous: google for your error. Also ask here, if no one answers it means no one knows how to fix it. In that case you might try creating a forum post and/or asking in AskUbuntu
[16:56] <holstein> alan_smith: mint is free to try, as is ubuntu.. go for it
[16:56] <mgolisch> cer: the disk is usb?
[16:56] <davido__> If you are looking for help with something where a very few may have experience (some specific piece of harware, for example), it's probably better to ask in the forum where more eyes may see it over a longer period of time.
[16:57] <alan_smith> i thought the problem were nouveau because it's like guaranteed not to work properly, but i purged it and the problem persists
[16:57] <pseudonymous> therazr: I do, I have. It's just that as far as errors go, xsane's inanely vague "invalid argument" error isn't exactly giving me much to go on, if anything.
[16:57] <Dazax> Salut!
[16:57] <holstein> alan_smith: no need to purge the included open source driver that supports your hardware
[16:57] <holstein> alan_smith: unity needs 3d.. you may prefer using lxde or xfce
[16:58] <holstein> alan_smith: there are "pass through" options for gnome and unity to use on older/unsupported, non-3d hardware.. but they are not ideal
[16:58] <therazr> pseudonymous: I see, I know what you mean by 'vague', and its annoying. But what davido__ said is what you should look forward to :)
[16:59] <cer> mgolisch: usb 3 on usb 2
[16:59] <pseudonymous> I can't hang here all day, spamming the same question.. I think I'll try my luck with the forums, perhaps the chances of running into mr or mrs right might increase there
[16:59] <aarobc> I'm having an issue with the NaCl google music manager. Anybody else delt with that on ubuntu?
[17:00] <alan_smith> holstein: i don't know how to configure x11, so i purget nouveau hoping that it would fallback to vesa... and no, nouveau doesn't support my hardware and i'm yet to find a nvidia card that it does support. I don't want to use Unity
[17:00] <alan_smith> i don't think vesa supports my monitor resolution though
[17:00] <holstein> alan_smith: thats not how you do it
[17:00] <stetho> Hi all - I have a hard disk in a server (12.04). fstab contains a line /dev/sdc1 /data ext4 defaults 0 0. The disk mounts fine. If I chmod 777 /data and restart the machine, /data has 755 permissions. Change it again to 777, reboot, back to 755. What am I missing that's changing the permissions?
[17:01] <holstein> alan_smith: you need not purge the open driver to use vesa
[17:01] <holstein> alan_smith: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209
[17:01] <davido__> pseudonymous That's exactly what I'm saying; it's silly to hang here all day asking the question over and over again hoping that at one particular moment you have the winning combination of an answerable question and a person who knows the answer, especially when it's a question on a specific piece of hardware.  Ask in the forum, come back to it hours or a day later, profit.
[17:01] <holstein> alan_smith: the open driver or the proprietary driver will likely be the "best" for you in *any* linux
[17:02] <alan_smith> holstein: nouveau NEVER worked for me... does vesa support higher resoltuins than 1024x768?
[17:02] <Zipper2014> dw1: WIll you be able to help me after I get 12.04 installed to move from it to 14.04?
[17:02] <therazr> alan_smith: what about proprietary?
[17:02] <someHuman> I am experiencing lags in my Ubuntu.
[17:02] <holstein> alan_smith: try it and see.. but the proprietary driver is what i, the community, nvidia, and any linux distro will suggest
[17:02] <therazr> Zipper2014: First you should make sure 12.04 gets installed and fixes your problem. I'm not sure that is the case right now...
[17:02] <someHuman> I experience flickering with the Chrome screen.
[17:03] <alan_smith> therazr: I installed it from cl using aptitude but it doesn't work also (304 if memory serves)
[17:03] <someHuman> I mean with Chrome browser.
[17:03] <someHuman> I am using an AMD graphics card.
[17:03] <therazr> alan_smith: what is the card?
[17:03] <alan_smith> therazr: gtx560
[17:03] <therazr> alan_smith: that card uses the newest driver version for nvidia
[17:03] <alan_smith> therazr: you mena 33x?
[17:04] <pseudonymous> davido__: ah, sorry for not realising that the first time round. I'm just a bit frustrated that I make someone purchase a scanner based on its linux support only to have spent and hour so far to no avail with plenty more time wasted to come. Sorry :)
[17:04] <alan_smith> therazr: 331.20?
[17:04] <therazr> alan_smith: yes I think so
[17:04] <alan_smith> therazr: any ideas if it's available from the repos?
[17:04] <holstein> alan_smith: if you have not, try the proprietary driver from your manufacturer for the operating system uyou are using.. use the one in the default repositories
[17:05] <therazr> alan_smith: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates
[17:05] <davido__> Take it back.
[17:05] <Zipper2014> It is very overwhelming at times when you are in chat with many people at one time. Some know the peoblems and some do not. However, I will try to install the ubuntu-12.04.04-dvd-amd64.iso. If this is not the right ISO, please let me know.
[17:05] <alan_smith> therazr: i'm going to try them, thank you :)
[17:05] <davido__> If it's not worth the frustration, or exceeds your patience in getting it working, definitely don't let it ruin your day.
[17:05] <holstein> Zipper2014: do you need/want 64bit?
[17:06] <Zipper2014> holstein: My system is 64 bit.
[17:06] <pseudonymous> davido__: parents require printers, scanners and whatnot - children comply..  Oh well.. writing up a forum post right now, finger's crossed, someone might know how to kick/facestomp SANE into working.
[17:07] <aarobc> Why are there no multi-threaded vp9 encoders out here?
[17:08] <bekks> aarobc: Feel free to develop one? :)
[17:08] <robin_> ubuntu is a bad os
[17:08] <therazr> Zipper2014: if 2gb or more of ram, you can go with 64bit
[17:08] <Zipper2014> Memory is 5.8G, Intel Core i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz x4, 1TB HD.
[17:08] <DJones> robin_: Stop that, you don't have to use it
[17:08] <therazr> robin_: Then why are you here (eventually using it?)?
[17:08] <aarobc> bekks: Not going to say I haven't thought about it
[17:08] <bekks> Zipper2014: Memory is 6GB :)
[17:08] <robin_> is just kidding,  ubuntu is a grat os
[17:08] <robin_> great
[17:09] <therazr> lol
[17:09] <robin_> Lol
[17:09] <robin_> i need help
[17:09] <holstein> robin_: please ask if you have a support question.. otherwise, enjoy the #ubuntu-offtopic channel for chat. thanks!
[17:09] <bekks> robin_: Well, your tone just made me to not help you, whatever your issue might be.
[17:10] <aarobc> I've been using 14.04 exclusively for the last weeks. it's very usable.
[17:10] <pseudonymous> aarobc: so long as you don't plug in a scanner -_-
[17:10] <DJones> And goodbye robin_
[17:11] <aarobc> I'm very impressed with the progress that has been made on amd cards. Open drivers are faster than proprietary now
[17:11] <holstein> pseudonymous: please dont share mis-information.. if you have issue with a scanner, let the creator of the device know that they are welcome and encouraged to support linux.. linux and ubuntu are both very open and easy to support
[17:11] <bekks> aarobc: Which is not true for am/ati and nvidia drivers.
[17:11] <new0> hey everyone, i am trying to boot ubuntu on   GUI but it's load in text mode. now i did sudo service lightgm start and xfce was starting. and i am trying to login but it's kick me out everytime.
[17:11] <pseudonymous> holstein: no misinformation, the scanner is fully supported (http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html) and yet nothing works
[17:11] <holstein> pseudonymous: i realize hardware support can be challenging.. but, most time, things "just work" when they can.. and when they dont, they may never work
[17:12] <holstein> pseudonymous: sure, but sane doenst create that device
[17:12] <aarobc> bekks: I've benchmarked my HD 6870 with the closed and open source drivers. open source ones are about 3x as fast.
[17:12] <new0> also i connected via SSH on my desktop and run sudo service lightgm stop and now i mouse is blinking and not sure how to move on! any advice?
[17:12] <pseudonymous> holstein: we agree there. But if it's listed as supported, then someone's on the hook for that - it's obvious that the only reason anyone would care to look at such a page is when making purchasing / conversion decisions
[17:12] <bekks> aarobc: you benchmarked what? :)
[17:13] <holstein> pseudonymous: let them know.. the documenation should be publically editable
[17:13] <Ari-Yang> aarobc: nice, nice to see open source drivers are improving
[17:13] <aarobc> bekks: glmark2 was what I used
[17:13] <therazr> pseudonymous: but first make sure you did install everything correctly
[17:13] <aarobc> ran the test three times for each
[17:13] <alan_smith> where can i upload an image?
[17:14] <jhutchins> There was a change in the name of the device that the kernel created for some scanners that sane didn't account for at one point.
[17:14] <junka> !browser
[17:14] <holstein> !paste | alan_smith
[17:14] <jhutchins> You just update the conf file for that brand and it works fine.
[17:14] <pseudonymous> therazr: I'd love to, but seeing as ubuntu comes with sane and company preinstalled I don't know what I could do to frack it up. I know it's using the right back-end, at least
[17:14] <junka> !info browser
[17:15] <jhutchins> pseudonymous: So how does it fail?  Does it say something like "no devices found"?
[17:16] <vbgunz> I have several "screen" sections in my xorg.conf file. How do I switch between them on the fly? is there a command I can run through the terminal that will automatically set these screens up
[17:16] <pseudonymous> jutchins: -- http://pastebin.com/uaD4i9sJ <-- that's a complete debug output of "scanimage -d" running as root to prevent permissions problems to the best of my ability. It simply decides that some argument is invalid, neglects to tell me what and then it takes 30 seconds or so for it to release the device
[17:16] <bekks> vbgunz: You cant.
[17:16] <alan_smith> ok, after installing the latest proprietary driver, i can't even boot the recovery mode: http://imagebin.org/308525
[17:16] <bekks> vbgunz: You have to restart the X server to do so.
[17:16] <jhutchins> pseudonymous: Check to see which devices are created and what permissions they have.
[17:17] <bekks> alan_smith: And which driver is it? For which hardware in detail?
[17:17] <vbgunz> bekks: damn, that makes things difficult
[17:17] <pseudonymous> vbgunz: some (namely open source) drivers allow you to dynamically switch screen configs via calling "xrandr", it's quite straight-forward and should detect resolution etc automatically (if you use NVIDIA, this is a no-go)
[17:17] <alan_smith> bekks: 331.20, gtx560
[17:17] <dw1> Zipper2014: The only thing you have to know is to upgrade 12.04 to 14.04 at this time you need to run at terminal "software-updater -d" to be offered the "development release".  After some time in use when many issues are fixed 14.04.1 will be released and offered to 12.04 users without the -d flag.
[17:18] <new0> hey everyone, i am trying to boot ubuntu on   GUI but it's load in text mode. now i did sudo service lightgm start and xfce was starting. and i am trying to login but it's kick me out everytime. also i connected via SSH on my desktop and run sudo service lightgm stop and now i mouse is blinking and not sure how to move on! any advice? (the problem not the driver, could be xserver)
[17:18] <alan_smith> here is a lower res one: http://imagebin.org/308526
[17:18] <bekks> alan_smith: How about stating "I am using nvidia drivers"?
[17:18] <vbgunz> yeah, damn then it's a no go. I have 3 displays and several different kind of setups. it's becoming a pita to keep manually switching between what I want
[17:18] <bekks> alan_smith: And whats wrong with that dmesg output?
[17:18] <bekks> alan_smith: How did you install that driver?
[17:19] <dw1> Zipper2014: They do that so people expecting long-term stability aren't offered relatively untested versions right off the bat.
[17:19] <alan_smith>  bekks: from the repos