[05:15] <noobie25> deww: it was an application i wrote generating twin primes that i have been running for 7 hours.  I accidently loss connection, but i think it is still running.
[05:15] <studentz> thunkee it is correct
[05:16] <shin_> i got myself a new terminal using cntl+alt+f2, and i can't get back into xwindows since i'm not root and have no display????
[05:16] <tgp1994> Does anyone else happen to know why jockey-gtk (Hardware Drivers) cannot detect my nvidia drivers for my Geforce FX 5500?
[05:16] <Aeronius> installing gparted
[05:16] <noobie25> wastrel:  i'm not sure how to use screen...
[05:16] <deww> noobie25: you may want to restart this effort :P
[05:16] <shin_> so was stuck at command prompt
[05:16] <bazhang> shin_, tried ctrl alt f7?
[05:16] <nit-wit> Aeronius,  it is your best friend in so many ways
[05:16] <Krishnandu> shin_, alt+ctrl + f7 or f8(if you've logged out)
[05:17] <Aeronius> taking a while to install
[05:17] <nit-wit> Aeronius,  what is the OS your using
[05:17] <deww> noobie25: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[05:17] <Aeronius> ubuntu 9.10
[05:17] <shin_> :o
[05:18] <nit-wit> Aeronius,  cool
[05:18]  * shin_ googles up relevent stuff
[05:18] <echolist> hello, i have a little problem to connect a modem with ubuntu
[05:18] <Aeronius> sudo gparted
[05:18] <wastrel> noobie25: screen lets you detach and reattach to a terminal. won't help in this case but in the future, if you're running jobs remotely, start screen on the remote system so if your connection fails you can reattach
[05:18] <noobie25> deww:  thanks
[05:18] <deww> noobie25: besides from figuring out how to reattach / detach from screen, everything else is the same as you would without running screen
[05:18] <noobie25> wastrel:  thanks
[05:18] <nit-wit> Aeronius, it is in the menu other wise it is gksudo gparted
[05:18] <Aeronius> OK, my USB isn't even showing on gparted
[05:19] <nit-wit> Aeronius,  there is a drop down top right corner
[05:19] <Aeronius> wait, it's /sdb1
[05:19] <bazhang> Aeronius, why would you want it to? you're installing via unetbootin
[05:19] <Aeronius> or /sdb
[05:19] <ghost123> hello
[05:19] <Krishnandu> bazhang, He's verifying which one is the usb drive :)
[05:19] <nafri> hello, is there any alternative for notification area applet of gnome panel?
[05:20] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, use mount in terminal if you are not sure
[05:20] <Aeronius> ok, should I try Unetbootin on sdb now?
[05:20] <nit-wit> Aeronius, if that is correct just make sure your pointed at that partition not sdb but sdb1
[05:20] <Aeronius> No, I'm sure now
[05:20] <ghost123> can someone tell me how can i tether my ipod touch with my linux laptop
[05:20] <Meiam> pksadiq thanks
[05:20] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, Only after getting sure
[05:20] <studentz> thunke  How do I remove my  login from /etc/group nopasswdlogin group? Just remove the line?
[05:20] <bazhang> ghost123, tether? as in use as an irc client?
[05:20] <pksadiq> Meiam: ,k try a different cable
[05:20] <ghost123> i need it for puppy linux
[05:21] <Aeronius> well, UNetbootin won't let me point at sdb1, just sdb
[05:21] <echolist> can someone tell me how to connect a usb modem on ubuntu ??
[05:21] <Aeronius> nevermind, yes it will
[05:21] <Aeronius> :)
[05:21] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, Yes, that's the usb drive
[05:21] <bazhang> ghost123, ubuntu related somehow?
[05:21] <Aeronius> ok, shall I do it?
[05:21] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, yes
[05:21] <Aeronius> will it basically do the same thing as making an install cd?
[05:21] <bananafish> I need help fixing my grub2
[05:21] <nafri> hello, is there any alternative for notification area applet of gnome panel?
[05:22] <Aeronius> because that's what I want
[05:22] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, Yes
[05:22] <Aeronius> ok
[05:22] <Aeronius> here goes!
[05:22] <bazhang> bananafish, read the grub2 wiki yet?
[05:22] <ghost123> can someone tell how i can tether my ipod touch with my puppy linux laptop
[05:22] <Krishnandu> !ask | bananafish
[05:22] <bazhang> ghost123, ask in the puppy support channel
[05:22] <Aeronius> SAYS I have to mount to a mountpoint!
[05:22] <bananafish> would it have anything on windows disappearing, ive gone through about 3 forum posts and no success
[05:22] <Krishnandu> bananafish, What's the issue??
[05:22] <bananafish> ok
[05:23] <Krishnandu> bananafish, Read the wiki first as bazhang said
[05:23] <bazhang> bananafish, what about sudo update-grub ?
[05:23] <bananafish> ran a bunch of updates restarted and windows isn't showing up in grub, I knew how to edit the menu.lst in grub but I cant get grub2 to do anything
[05:23] <bananafish> yes I have tried that
[05:24] <Aeronius> why won't it automatically mount?
[05:24] <Krishnandu> bananafish, even update-grub fails??
[05:24] <Krishnandu> to identify windows??
[05:24] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, What??
[05:24] <nit-wit> Aeronius, your using unetbootin right you know the device sig just close it and try again, I think the thumb has to be mounted
[05:24] <bananafish> yes it doesnt even see that it is there
[05:25] <Aeronius> should I reboot?
[05:25] <bananafish> but when i run fdisk i can see the partition is fine
[05:25] <Aeronius> or give command to mount?
[05:25] <salil> Ubuntu initially boots into 80x24 more but changes over to something around 130x40 text mode.. How do I prevent this?
[05:25] <Edwin_ach> hi everybody, i have a problem trying to write (p.e. create a single text file) inside a directory where i have rwx permission and i am root. What could be wrong... filesystem, permissions, attributes (has no attributes set)? some idea, friends? 0_0
[05:25] <nit-wit> Aeronius, look in computer and mount the thumb
[05:25] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, unetbootin process completed??
[05:25] <Aeronius> no, said I had to mount
[05:25] <Aeronius> so how do I mount it?
[05:26] <Meiam> pksadiq: I dont think it is a bug or cable cus remember this phone works on other computer. Ubumtu and windows 7 with the cable I am using.
[05:26] <abhijain> hello
[05:26] <nit-wit> Aeronius, places computer mount the thumb
[05:26] <bananafish> I'm not getting any errors or anything, that's why I am so confused
[05:26] <abhijain> can anybody tell me how can i apply for free ubuntu 10.10 cds
[05:26] <salil> Ubuntu initially boots into 80x24 more but changes over to something around 130x40 text mode.. How do I prevent this?
[05:26] <rww> !shipit | abhijain
[05:26] <nit-wit> abhijain, on the main ubuntu site
[05:26] <Mr_G> hey I have installed grub2, but my pc does not display the grub boot screen
[05:26] <abhijain> rww: thanx
[05:27] <Krishnandu> bananafish, Looks like windows bootloader got corrupted(may be)
[05:27] <rww> Mr_G: hold down shift when your computer starts booting
[05:27] <abhijain> rww: and how can i get repositories
[05:27] <bananafish> When grub loads Win7 does it look to that tiny 100mb partition windows makes
[05:27] <rww> abhijain: I'm not sure what you're asking
[05:27] <Mr_G> rww:k n if I want it to be default?
[05:27] <Krishnandu> abhijain, What's your goal??
[05:27] <bananafish> or the actual windows partition
[05:27] <arvind_khadri> abhijain, the DVD has the repo
[05:28] <salil> Ubuntu initially boots into 80x24 more but changes over to something around 130x40 text mode.. How do I prevent this?
[05:28] <FishFace> rww: Sounds like he will install on a non-internet machine
[05:28] <Krishnandu> bananafish, Yes
[05:28] <Aeronius> I'm going to use gparted to format it as fat 32
[05:28] <arvind_khadri> !repeat | salil
[05:28] <pksadiq> Aeronius: if through terminal, you can mount by            sudo mkdir /media/usb && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb/
[05:28] <bananafish> ok thanksa
[05:28] <studentz> thunkee another thing that comes to my memory is this patch that applied yesterday   https://github.com/sloshy/cspeed
[05:28] <Aeronius> ok?
[05:28] <bananafish> *thanks
[05:28] <salil> :(
[05:28] <Aeronius> It looks unformated in gparted
[05:28] <nit-wit> Aeronius, yes then mount it in places-computer open unetbootin and load it
[05:29] <abhijain> arvind_khadri: so how can i get
[05:29] <Aeronius> After copying the contents to my hard drive, I selected all and deleted (with the delete key)
[05:29] <arvind_khadri> abhijain, you can download it from http://www.ubuntu.com
[05:29] <Aeronius> it was pretty fast delete, almost scary how quickly one can lose data
[05:29] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, God knows what are you doing, it's that simple, just plug in your usb, open unetbootin, choose the pendrive and iso and start the process
[05:29] <ndxtg> could anyone explain me how Tx-power affect wireless connection? I'm having wifi issue on Ubuntu 10.10 AR5001
[05:29] <Ashtray777> fdfadfdf
[05:29] <Aeronius> but now it appears unformatted
[05:29] <Aeronius> so I'll format it as fat32
[05:29] <bazhang> Ashtray777, english please
[05:29] <rww> Mr_G: sudo nano /etc/default/grub, put a # in front of the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT line, and edit or add the GRUB_TIMEOUT line to say GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 (to show the menu for 10 seconds) or GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1 (to display until you make a selection)
[05:29] <nit-wit> Krishnandu, hallelujah
[05:30] <rww> Mr_G: Then, save and run sudo update-grub
[05:30] <abhijain> arvind_khadri: thanx
[05:30] <pksadiq> Aeronius: i think if you just deleted the files/folders using delete button, it will be went to trash
[05:30] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, unetbootin will automatically format it for you
[05:30] <arvind_khadri> abhijain, np :)
[05:30] <Krishnandu> nit-wit, what??
[05:30] <Mr_G> rww: Thank u I will try n get back :-)
[05:30] <Aeronius> pksadiq: since it's a thumbdrive, I don't think so
[05:31] <pksadiq> Aeronius: ,  I though it's hdd, sorry
[05:31] <pksadiq> thought*
[05:31] <nit-wit> Krishnandu, you said only God knows just giving you a  hallelujah
[05:31] <FishFace> hah!
[05:31] <Krishnandu> :P
[05:32] <Krishnandu> nit-wit, I don't know why would he need mount?? Ubuntu does that automatically, and that even in the middle of copying process
[05:32] <nit-wit> and I'm a agnostic
[05:32] <Aeronius> Ubuntu isn't doing it right now
[05:32] <Aeronius> so how do I mount it?>?
[05:33] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, did you followed what nit-wit and pksadiq said??
[05:33] <krunal> what do i do if my batttery indicator is showing wrong
[05:33] <krunal> !battery
[05:34] <Aeronius> it doesn't show up in Computer to mount
[05:34] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, unplug it and plug it again
[05:35] <Aeronius> unplugged
[05:35] <Aeronius> plugged
[05:35] <Aeronius> now what?
[05:35] <Krishnandu> now it's recognized??
[05:36] <Krishnandu> mounted automatically??
[05:36] <Aeronius> nope, it's like it's not there, probably because I deleted the contents from nautilus?
[05:37] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, No not the contents, the usb
[05:37] <noobie25> deww:  i installed screen, but cannot attach to this process using another terminal:     screen -r pid
[05:37] <Aeronius> the USB isn't showing up
[05:37] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, if not follow what pqsadiq said pksadiq> Aeronius: if through terminal, you can mount by            sudo mkdir /media/usb && sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb/
[05:37] <Aeronius> on the command line, I typed mount /dev/sdb
[05:37] <BladeMcCool> i think i installed tesseract from apt-get. any way to find out what version it was/is?
[05:37] <Aeronius> it says can't find
[05:37] <wastrel> noobie25: you cannot attach to a process that has lost its controlling terminal
[05:37] <Aeronius> oh
[05:38] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, follow what he already said
[05:38] <wastrel> noobie25: screen allows you to start a process, detach and reattach - but the process has to have been started from within screen
[05:39] <noobie25> wastrel: i ran screen, and restarted the process.   shoudln't i be able to attach to this screen using another terminal?
[05:39] <the_penetrator> hello?
[05:39] <ur_gp_muhammed> hi
[05:39] <thunkee> studentz: pls post ls -l /etc/passwd and ls -l /etc/shadow
[05:39] <monX> hello gp!
[05:39] <wastrel> noobie25: yes, log into the system where screen is running and do  screen -r
[05:39] <whatdidido> hello GP!
[05:39] <Guest33825> hi room
[05:39] <ur_gp_muhammed> hi!
[05:39] <BladeMcCool> "dpkg -l | grep tess" worked for me ty rtfm
[05:40] <ur_gp_muhammed> my pc has a virus
[05:40] <noobie25> wastrel: There is a screen on:         5220.pts-0    (Attached) There is no screen to be resumed.
[05:40] <Aeronius> Krishnandu: I did what you said to mount it, it says mount: only root can do that
[05:40] <ur_gp_muhammed> and my_computer is making claims that its immune system is weak
[05:40] <monX> i have acquired access to a remote centos box
[05:40] <jewhad> hi there
[05:40] <wastrel> noobie25: so the screen session is already attached to another teminal
[05:40] <ur_gp_muhammed> wat is my prescription?
[05:40] <monX> how do i secure it
[05:40] <monX> (so the original guy can stop deleting my stuff)
[05:40] <Guest33825> your computer needs a  flu shot  lol
[05:41] <wastrel> noobie25: you can use  screen -D -r   to -Detach and -reattach  if you wnt
[05:41] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, do it as sudo, as mentioned there
[05:41] <jewhad> I got banned from #phpbb how do I go baX in there?
[05:41] <Aeronius> I did, and typed my password
[05:41] <noobie25> wastrel:  thanks :)
[05:41] <wastrel> er,  noobie25 screen -d -R
[05:41] <monX> does rm -rf / really make my comp go faster?
[05:41] <Aeronius> sudo mkdir /media/usb && mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
[05:41] <Vikrokk> hey does somebody know how to use emerald theme manager
[05:41] <Aeronius> reboot?
[05:42] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, No
[05:42] <Aeronius> I'll just try to reboot and then unetbootin might work with no problems?
[05:42] <studentz> thunkee -rw-r--r-- 1 root  root 2199  2010-11-26 23:03 /etc/passwd
[05:42] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, Do one by one
[05:42] <monX> my friend made my wallpaper a porno screenshot
[05:42] <ur_gp_muhammed> i once aeronius my asshole
[05:42] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, sudo mkdir /media/usb
[05:42] <monX> how the fuck do i remove this?
[05:42] <ur_gp_muhammed> it hurt
[05:42] <noobie25> wastrel: thanks..this is cool.
[05:42] <Krishnandu> Aeronius, Then sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb
[05:42] <ur_gp_muhammed> WILL SUM1 PLZ HELP ME
[05:42] <monX> wat is the problem muhammed?
[05:42] <studentz> thunkee -rw-r------ 1 root shadow 1345 2010-11-26 23:03 /etc/shadow
[05:43] <ur_gp_muhammed> O LORD I THINK I AM GUNNA DIE
[05:43] <rww> ur_gp_muhammed, monX: Stop trolling, please.
[05:43] <monX> im sry sir
[05:43] <Krishnandu> !repeat | ur_gp_muhammed
[05:43] <dzup2> die then, make you enemy happy
[05:43] <noobie25> wastrel: if i run screen in another terminal.... and then terminal in again, can i toggle between all screenss?
[05:43] <share> hello
[05:43] <Aeronius> cannot create directory, /media/usb:file exists
[05:43] <ur_gp_muhammed> MY TURBAN HAS BEEN LIT AFLAME
[05:43] <monX> !repeat | Krishnandu
[05:43] <nimbiotics> Hello all. Im still struggling with samba, but I've mode advancements. I can now open  the windows shares on my ubuntu pc. In thw windows pc I can noe see the Samba file and print server, but thats as good as it gets. Please help. TIA
[05:43] <rww> ur_gp_muhammed: No, seriously. This channel's for Ubuntu technical support, not amusement.
[05:43] <ur_gp_muhammed> WHAT THE FUCK IS UR JEW PROBLEM, RWW
[05:44] <monX> woah hey, im jewish
[05:44] <share> I have removed deluge ppa but ubuntu software keeps showing it. how can i fix this?
[05:44] <share> ubuntu software center
[05:44] <Aeronius> when I sudo mount, it says mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:44] <_jesse_> share: did you do `sudo apt-get update` ?
[05:45] <thunkee> studentz: looks ok
[05:45] <share> _jesse_: yes
[05:45] <nit-wit> Oh the drama
[05:45] <share> _jesse_: i removed long time ago
[05:45] <_jesse_> share: and it definitely isn't in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:46] <share> _jesse_: it isn't
[05:46] <studentz> thunkee I undo the changes of the patch a few minutes ago. But the problem is still alive.
[05:46] <Aeronius> I'm going to reboot, see you guys on the flipside...
[05:47] <_jesse_> share: hmm strange, does it show the packages in apt-cache?
[05:47] <_jesse_> maybe it's just a Software Center thing
[05:47] <FishFace> Waiting to see if Aeronius gets it this time
[05:47] <share> _jesse_: no, just default package
[05:47] <share> _jesse_: im gonna try to reinstall software center
[05:48] <studentz> thunkee I also did the test with the editor and it looks ok
[05:48] <_jesse_> share: hmm I see, alright, good luck
[05:48] <share> _jesse_: sudo apt-get remove --purge software-center
[05:49] <_jesse_> share: yep
[05:49] <_TexNick_> drama indeed nit-wit lol  ;-)
[05:49] <share> !ot | _TexNick_
[05:49] <cappicard> hey folks... i upgraded to maverick... but Xorg is completely ignoring /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:49] <nit-wit> TexNick it is IRC
[05:50] <_TexNick_> hehe yup
[05:50] <nit-wit> cappicard, coold you give a better description
[05:50] <nit-wit> could
[05:51] <cappicard> i run nvidia-xconfig. my logs only say it's going through /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[05:51] <cappicard> and doens't even bother using xorg.conf
[05:51] <thunkee> studentz: yes was just a test ... pls check /etc/passwd the line with your login name has long weird pw text something like user:fdghfd4c345... pls dont post it only tell yes many weird chars :)
[05:51] <cappicard> i tried uninstalling the nouveau driver. now it's resorting to the vesa driver!
[05:52] <cappicard> [   429.957] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[05:52] <share> _jesse_: problem solved :)
[05:52] <_jesse_> share: hehe that's one way to do it :) maybe it was just cached in there somewhere
[05:52] <share> yeah
[05:53] <cappicard> it was reverting to the nv driver... i tried uninstalling that... now vesa's being used... very irritating
[05:53] <cappicard> i tried installing the binary nvidia driver... not nouveau...
[05:54] <studentz> thunkee No only alphanum , digits, and punctuations.
[05:54] <studentz> thunkee Every word is dictionary word
[05:55] <primedeath> I was wondering the easiest way to clone my Linux HDD on my USB HDD. I have been having some terrible luck lately with my Linux installations not working. I would like to be able to restore it in case something happens.
[05:55] <share> How can I access Software Sources without using Software Center or Synaptic?
[05:56] <share> why did you remove the shortcut
[05:56] <share> :P
[05:56] <jrmcm> share: apt-get
[05:56] <thunkee> studentz: hmm thats not ok ... be sure to be on tty1 ... log out then log in then passwd
[05:56] <dangerous> Is there an equivalent to Microsoft Remote Desktop on Ubuntu?  I am not talking about VNC, which basically just lets you see the local screen and use your keyboard and mouse, rather than giving you a proper remote login.  Remote Desktop is much more responsive than VNC.
[05:56] <rww> share: right-click the menu applet, click Edit Menu, navigate to System -> Administration, click checkbox by Software Sources
[05:56] <nit-wit> primedeath, clonezilla
[05:56] <primedeath> Nit-wit, thank you.
[05:57] <rww> share: they removed it because Ubuntu's centralizing software management in Software Centre, for better or worse.
[05:57] <zcat[1]> primedeath:  I just use 'tar czf'
[05:57] <nit-wit> primedeath, I haven't used it but thats the word on the street
[05:57] <share> rww: thanks, when i upgraded to Maverick i couldnt open it from the menu
[05:58] <studentz> thunkee I just reboot and try to log in. Then go to tty1
[05:58] <zcat[1]> primedeath:  sudo tar czf /media/disk/backup.tgz / --one-file-system
[05:58] <thunkee> studentz: right
[05:58] <tiziazrou> hi I have a Sony Vaio VPCEB11FD and the sound is very low and can only be audible if I plug headphone what is the solution please
[05:58] <dextro_> how do you make grep also show the next N lines after a match?
[05:58] <primedeath> zcat[1]: How would I restore that in case something happens?
[05:59] <rww> dextro_: grep -A numberoflines
[05:59] <nit-wit> tiziazrou, have you right clicked the panel icon and looked around
[05:59] <ZoomaBaresAll> Frozen Fire: thanks for the help. I'm up & running now.
[05:59] <sha0_> Anyone know mingw-utils's package name in Ubuntu?  I'm looking for 'pexports'.
[05:59] <alyx> Hello, who would one contact to report a possible violation of the use of the Ubuntu logo?
[05:59] <zcat[1]> primedeath:  boot a live CD, recreate root partiton in gparted, mount it as target, cd target, tar xzf /media/disk/backup.tgz then restore grub..
[05:59] <dextro_> rww, thx
[05:59] <rinku_kokiri> guys i have a video related problem with ubuntu ...  you can only understand if you look at the problem  http://i53.tinypic.com/ae7e5l.png
[05:59] <rinku_kokiri> notice the blue lines
[05:59] <rinku_kokiri> to the right of everythign
[05:59] <nit-wit> tiziazrou, sound preferences with a right click
[05:59] <tiziazrou> nit-wit I have look everything is look ok but is not
[06:00] <primedeath> Thank you.
[06:00] <rinku_kokiri> er wtf
[06:00] <rinku_kokiri> hrm
[06:00] <alyx> rinku_kokiri, I don't see it o.O
[06:01] <tiziazrou> in material it have nothing maybe that is the issues
[06:01] <rww> alyx: https://forms.canonical.com/trademarkviolation/ . For reference, the trademark policy: http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[06:01] <nit-wit> tiziazrou, is the fn key down and the up down arrows working for sound
[06:01] <alyx> rww, thank you. :
[06:01] <alyx> )
[06:01] <alyx> * :)
[06:01] <ZoomaBaresAll> anyone know if ubuntu supports ancient greek? specifically, i need polytonic Greek text input
[06:01] <share> rww: do you know why i dont see grub when i boot the computer
[06:01] <rinku_kokiri> i do on my lcd (asus m70vm-x1 laptop)  but not on my external monitor...  alyx
[06:01] <rinku_kokiri> lemmie reboot or relogin gimmie 19 sec
[06:01] <rww> share: It's hidden by default. Hold down shift at boot.
[06:02] <share> rww: they changed it in Maverick right?
[06:02] <rww> share: I forget. Thought it was Lucid, though.
[06:02] <nimbiotics> Hello all. Im still struggling with samba, but I've mode advancements. I can now use  the windows shares on my ubuntu pc. In the windows pc though, I can now see the "Samba file and print server", but thats as good as it gets; I cannot see the shared folders. Please help. TIA
[06:03] <XuMuK> hi there! Does someone know some face recognition soft for linux? Something as Luxand Blink! ?
[06:03] <rinku_kokiri> it may be compiz related
[06:03] <nit-wit> clarinet, do you play one
[06:04] <share> rww: shift down in maverick?
[06:04] <rinku_kokiri> as the last two logins i have had to restart the window manager to get my titlebars back
[06:04] <clarinet> nit-wit, what?
[06:04] <rinku_kokiri> i don't see it yet
[06:04] <studentz> thunkee cat /etc/passwd  the same not strange words or char
[06:04] <rinku_kokiri> but it may come up... it comes and it goes
[06:04] <nit-wit> clrinet do you play your name
[06:04] <tiziazrou> is already to the max nit-wit
[06:04] <clarinet> net-wit, a little.
[06:04] <rww> share: sorry, I'm not sure what you're asking :<
[06:05] <nit-wit> tiziazrou, thats about my limit in knowledge
[06:05] <share> rww: when i start my computer i dont see grub
[06:05] <clarinet> net-wit, I just learned for one year.
[06:05] <nit-wit> clarinet,  cool i' a reed player
[06:05] <rww> share: right. turn on the computer and then hold down shift until you see it...
[06:05] <share> rww: can I make it visible by defaul?
[06:05] <share> t
[06:05] <rww> share: yes, one sec
[06:05] <share> ok tks
[06:06] <rww> share: sudo nano /etc/default/grub, put a # in front of the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT line, and edit or add the GRUB_TIMEOUT line to say GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 (to show the menu for 10 seconds) or GRUB_TIMEOUT=-1 (to display until you make a selection)
[06:06] <rww> share: then run sudo update-grub
[06:06] <nit-wit> clarinet, I'm a actual nit-wit ;)
[06:06]  * rww answered this for someone else earlier ;)
[06:07] <nit-wit> see you all on the other side
[06:07] <graphitemaster> okay umm default ubuntu install and flash is already installed?
[06:07] <Guest47299> Anyone in here running Kde 4.5?
[06:07] <graphitemaster> what do we have goin on now: or own opensource crap version of flash?
[06:07] <share> rww: tks :)
[06:08] <rww> graphitemaster: You probably ticked the checkbox saying to install non-free codecs and drivers during installation.
[06:08] <graphitemaster> way to go, good news the flashplayer that ships with kubuntu is well junk since it does not play my audio >.>
[06:08] <graphitemaster> rww: okay how to remove it, whats the package name?
[06:08] <rww> graphitemaster: for flash? flashplugin-installer
[06:09] <primedeath> Wow.
[06:09] <primedeath> Holy c...
[06:09] <primedeath> I use an Apple keyboard ( I typically use Windows) and it works on Linux Mint. Heh
[06:10] <thunkee> studentz: have you done passwd? and reenter your password
[06:11] <oldschool> hello does anyone know how to uninstall ubuntu 10.10 from a external hard drive
[06:11] <graphitemaster> rww it seems even the Adobe junk does not play audio either
[06:11] <studentz> thunkee not yet. How I can do it?
[06:11] <share> reboot
[06:11] <rww> graphitemaster: I wouldn't know, I make a point of not installing it ;)
[06:12] <graphitemaster> well umm I like to watch megavideo >.>
[06:12] <graphitemaster> and youtube HTML5 is horrible
[06:12] <primedeath> I agree.
[06:12] <primedeath> YouFail's HTML5 is half-assed.
[06:13] <thunkee> studentz: simply on tty1 type passwd be sure prompt is not #
[06:13] <graphitemaster> not to mention other sites with "things children should not watch and are not really appropriate for this channel" use flash
[06:13] <primedeath> I have a question.. More of a VirtualBox question, but I was wondering if it was capable of using an existing partition?
[06:15] <studentz> thunkee done
[06:15] <Mr_G> hey my headphones are not working with toshiba satellite l640d after Maverick install
[06:16] <Mr_G> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1615821
[06:16] <thunkee> studentz: sudo stop gdm then sudo start gdm and agaib try to login
[06:16] <Kaalia> khaf
[06:16] <Mr_G> I   have posted in on the forums as well but no reply
[06:16] <stevenmarie> erzer
[06:18] <share> rww: i just forgot which file i edited lol
[06:18] <rww> share: /etc/default/grub
[06:18] <share> ty gonna save it
[06:19] <studentz> thunkee  passwd changed succesfully Login no luck
[06:19] <FishFace> Mr_G: Did you upgrade from Lucid or this is a fresh install?
[06:19] <Mr_G> fresh install
[06:20] <FishFace> Mr_G: I don't have a positive answer, but is the onboard audio disabled in your bios? Guessing here.
[06:21] <Mr_G> FishFace: I m not sure but the speakers work fine...........if it was disabled wudnt the speakers not work as well?
[06:22] <thunkee> studentz: ok im sorry at this point im out ... your problem is a misconfiguration in pam.auth you need authentication expert ... there are many posts with the same thing caused ba differnt packages ... ask for "user ingroup nopasswdlogin not met by user ..."
 But one does not work.
[06:23] <Mr_G> yes
[06:23] <brophat> does that mean something is wrong with my wireless in ubuntu/
[06:24] <brophat> and i do notice it is kind of flaky it works for a min or two then stops for a couple mins etc...
[06:24] <FishFace> Mr_G: System - Preferences - Sound - Hardware. Do you see the headset listed?
[06:24] <Mr_G> nope
[06:24] <mfaroukg> @find mfaroukg
[06:25] <studentz> thunkee you has been nice and helpful . Any way to flatter you , I would like to invite a beer to you
[06:25] <primedeath> Do I have to boot into a LiveCD to expand the EXT4 Partition I am using?
[06:25] <FishFace> Mr_G: OK. I disabled my sound from my motherboard in the bios. Not sure, but this might work for you also.
[06:25] <thunkee> studentz: thanks and cheers :)
[06:25] <nimbiotics> Hello all. Im still struggling with samba, but I've mode advancements. I can now use  the windows shares on my ubuntu pc. In the windows pc though, I can now see the "Samba file and print server", but thats as good as it gets; I cannot see the shared folders. Please help. TIA
[06:26] <Mr_G> FishFace: I didnt get hw disabling the sound wud work?
[06:26] <studentz> thunkee for now I would like to have some rest. :) bye
[06:26] <primedeath> "wud" -.-
[06:26] <simplexio> nimbiotics: does \\yourip\sharename\ work
[06:27] <rinku_kokiri> http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=00345691410160998255&gk=forex
[06:27] <rinku_kokiri> whaddya think
[06:27] <rinku_kokiri> er wrong channel
[06:27] <FishFace> Mr_G: I'll private message you
[06:27] <tiziazrou> do you think that debian will bee more compatible on sony vaio portable ?
[06:29] <mkquist> nimbiotics: how did you set up sharing on your linux machine?
[06:29] <mkquist> nimbiotics: i have shares set up with three computers with no problem, windows and ubuntu
[06:31] <mkquist> nimbiotics: did you click allow
[06:31] <mkquist> nimbiotics: sorry, 'guest acount' or are you trying to use your linux account to log in w/windows?
[06:31] <eagles0513875> quick question guys if i get a netbook can i run the normal ubuntu?
[06:32] <eagles0513875> or will i run into problems
[06:32] <FishFace> nimbiotics: Just a a reference to me, did that link work I gave you about changing the Windows permissions?
[06:32] <share> does somebody know how to change root permissions timeout?
[06:32] <mkquist> eagles0513875: yes, and thats how I run it, like it better than the netbook version
[06:33] <eagles0513875> ok
[06:33] <rinku_kokiri> share sudo visudo
[06:33] <eagles0513875> only reason im getting a netbook  is to see what all the hypes about as well as have a linux laptop
[06:33] <mkquist> eagles0513875: running on an eepc and hp 9"
[06:33] <rinku_kokiri> share add to bottom  Defaults:user_name timestamp_timeout=x  x= minutes
[06:33] <eagles0513875> mkquist: im looking at getting an eeepc
[06:33]  * bananafish slaps bananafish around a bit with a large trout
[06:33] <rinku_kokiri> share  replace user_name with sudoer's username (if you, your username)
[06:34] <share> rinku_kokiri: thanks
[06:34] <krunal> what do i do if my batttery indicator is showing wrong
[06:34] <rinku_kokiri> share ctrl+o saves
[06:34] <mkquist> eagles0513875: well, I've got an eepc and an hp, I dont know about the 'hype', but it just works with no problems, and quick, for what it is
[06:34] <eagles0513875> mkquist: that one has win 7 starter on it :-/
[06:34] <eagles0513875> its quite fast but i get enough of windows on my desktop
[06:35] <mkquist> eagles0513875: my hp has win 7 on it too.  dual boot
[06:35] <eagles0513875> and for what im doing i can live with windows just on my desktop
[06:35] <eagles0513875> mkquist: nice thing is i can live with out seven and stay with ubuntu
[06:35] <eagles0513875> only need windows for gaming which i have a 500gb dedicated to it and gaming
[06:35] <mkquist> eagles0513875: usually just run the linux version.  hell, I can even use xp on virtualbox too, still runs fine, kinda funny
[06:36] <mkquist> eagles0513875: to be able to do all that on a 'netbook'
[06:36] <eagles0513875> mkquist: ya suprised apple hasnt tried to infiltrate the netbook market
[06:36] <mkquist> eagles0513875: youll be fine either way
[06:37] <eagles0513875> thanks :)
[06:37] <mkquist> eagles0513875: yeah, not sure what thats about... except the dell mini runs osx just find.  So I guess they just decided to let people do that
[06:37] <mkquist> eagles0513875: for like a third of the price of the air
[06:38] <blackshell> I'm running ubuntu on my dual boot system,one of my windows drive isn't writable,,how do i change that
[06:38] <eagles0513875> mkquist: the air imho is a fancy gadget for the CEOS to boast they use a mc
[06:38] <eagles0513875> mac
[06:38] <mkquist> eagles0513875: well, it is slick
[06:39] <eagles0513875> agreed
[06:39] <primedeath> Blackshell, I had that problem when I first formatted a drive. I went to the drive, right clicked it and went to properties then changed the permissions.
[06:39] <mkquist> eagles0513875: but it also cost, what, a cool thousand..
[06:39] <eagles0513875> but imho the size of solid state drives and what you get size wise doesnt justify the cost
[06:39] <eagles0513875> or the need to spend the money
[06:39] <mkquist> eagles0513875: so you can get a $200 netbook, load linux and get sooo close
[06:39] <eagles0513875> im on a 13 inch macbook pro which i got for 1,200 which gets the job done
[06:39] <eagles0513875> did 2 upgrades on it and it purrs like  a kitten
[06:39] <primedeath> Lol.
[06:40] <blackshell> it says the permissions of this drive cant be detected,t says the same for the drive which is writable
[06:40] <eagles0513875> couldnt have asked for anything better besides more then 2 usb slots
[06:40] <primedeath> 1,200 for a 13inch computer.
[06:40]  * primedeath laughs hysterically.
[06:40] <eagles0513875> primedeath:  all the laptops i have had have been in about this range
[06:40] <ceaze> hi ALL
[06:40] <mkquist> primedeath: eagles0513875 or $200 for a 10", gets real close
[06:40] <eagles0513875> the 999 to 1,200 USD range
[06:40] <bilalakhtar> !lol | primedeath
[06:40] <eagles0513875> lol BiDOrD
[06:40] <eagles0513875> i meant bilalakhtar
[06:40] <ceaze> Can you tell me some Nice Roms of MAME??
[06:41] <bilalakhtar> eagles0513875: not funny
[06:41] <mkquist> primedeath: oh my, you have incurred the wrath of ubottu...
[06:41] <primedeath> I don't use it on a regular basis. :]
[06:41] <eagles0513875> i dont either
[06:41] <bilalakhtar> just a warning
[06:41] <eagles0513875> ok
[06:41] <ceaze> Anyone Can you tell me some NICE Game ROMS in MAME??????
[06:42]  * primedeath rolls his eyes.
[06:42] <mkquist> lol?
[06:42] <kortsi> hi - I just installed 10.04.1 server 64-bit in a QEMU/KVM virtual machine - after installing all updates (kernel 2.6.32-26-server now) I can not get it to start up, last kernel line says "EDD information not available." - after that, it is stuck. has anybody any ideas? the same happens in rescue mode as well
[06:42] <mkquist> joking...
[06:43] <primedeath> bilalakhtar must have a script to detect it. Heh.
[06:44] <mkquist> lolscript
[06:44] <ceaze> Anyone Can you tell me some NICE Game ROMS in MAME?????
[06:44] <primedeath> I mean, he came out of nowhere with it.
[06:44] <mkquist> ceaze: you do know this is an ubuntu channel right?
[06:45] <mkquist> ceaze: and google def works for ROMS
[06:45] <eagles0513875> !patience | ceaze
[06:45] <eagles0513875> kortsi: quite dead in here. i have only started experimenting wiht it on kubuntu. quick question does your cpu support hardware virtualization, that could be the cause of your error
[06:45] <blackshell> I'm running ubuntu on my dual boot system,one of my windows drive isn't writable,,how do i change that?
[06:45] <blackshell> anyone
[06:45] <blackshell> please
[06:45] <ceaze> mkquist, so I am talking about mame installed in ubuntu
[06:45] <loo0oola> hi , where can i get some sexy themes for ubuntu
[06:45] <Primedeath> Right click the drive and change permissions?
[06:45] <mkquist> ceaze: same answer
[06:45] <Primedeath> I had to do that on a newly formatted NTFS Drive.
[06:45] <ubuntunoob> how do i send my vsftpd log to another file location? currently I have "vsftpd_log_file=/home/user/desktop/vsftpd.log" and no file shows up in that directory. I looked at files in /var/log/vsftpd.* and there are some, but the last entry was from a few days ago and I have used it since then
[06:45] <magicjoe> ANYONE! if i just updated to Lucid, and things aren't working like they should....is there a way to simply go back to the way things were before this update messed everything up? PLEASE SAY YES, AND PLEASE HELP ME DO IT
[06:45] <kortsi> eagles0513875: yes, its one of the newer Opterons which does support hardware virtualization
[06:46] <ubuntunoob> i tried asking in #vsftpd but it's pretty quiet in there
[06:46] <ceaze> mkquist, OK, but i still feel some one will have an answer here
[06:46] <Insurance> @loo0oola Go to gnome-look.org and look for orta. Its a nice theme.
[06:46] <mkquist> loo0oola: gnomelook.org
[06:46] <eagles0513875> kortsi: i didnt get any erorr like that mine works fine with the occasional popup error about a device not being attached
[06:46] <eagles0513875> kortsi: did you try asking in kvm
[06:46] <kortsi> eagles0513875: earlier line says "powernow-k8: Processor cpuid 623 not supported"
[06:47] <eagles0513875> let me check something kortsi
[06:47] <kortsi> eagles0513875: nope, maybe I should go ask them
[06:47] <kortsi> eagles0513875: the thing is, I had this running so I could install updates and all
[06:48] <eagles0513875> kortsi: go ask in there they could probably shed some light if its a known bug or otherwise
[06:48] <kortsi> eagles0513875: all right ill do that, thanks
[06:48] <Froodle> I'm planning to replace my system with a new one from parts.  Do I have to worry about multi-core processing support?
[06:48] <magicjoe> i thought updates were a GOOD thing.
[06:48] <eagles0513875> kortsi: isnt the powernow-k8 a powermanagement feature of amd's
[06:48] <KB1JWQ> Froodle: Not from the OS standpoint, no.
[06:49] <mkquist> magicjoe: just my opinion, but I dont like the 'upgrade' path, takes too long and too many issues.  IMHO just easier to install fresh, newer version, backing up, from what I understand is not easy
[06:49] <kortsi> eagles0513875: yes I guess it is - perhaps there's a way to disable it...
[06:49] <eagles0513875> kortsi: i wouldnt recommend it
[06:49] <Rakko> If I install Ubuntu on another hard drive in addition to my current one, and copy the existing /etc over to the new one, should things just work, apart from changing a few disk names in fstab?
[06:49] <eagles0513875> cuz if your cpu starts over heating then youll get to see things melt
[06:50] <Some_ux> hi
[06:50] <magicjoe> mkquist: so there is no "rollback to karmic" script out there, or even an option in synaptic for this? no safeguard from bugs in the update? you update, and its all or nothing?
[06:51] <mkquist> magicjoe: not that Im aware of
[06:51] <Primedeath> eagles0513875: CPU's have internal thermal sensors.. Nothing will melt. =-p
[06:51] <Hex00010> hey guys i got a quick question im running another monitor on my laptop and im using my big monitor ( conencted to my laptop) to browse stuff what is the command to  do so on ubuntu?
[06:51] <Froodle> KB1JWQ, so I won't have do anything special during installation?
[06:51] <ubuntunoob> why do I get  "restart: unknown instance:" when trying to 'sudo restart vsftpd'?
[06:51] <mkquist> magicjoe: really, I've just found it easier to install new and reinstall software
[06:51] <eagles0513875> Primedeath: i know care to explain what the amd powernow-k8 technology is
[06:51] <mkquist> magicjoe: saves a lot of headaches
[06:51] <Hex00010> Do i have to like mount it or something?
[06:51] <Some_ux> Ubuntu 10.04 server won't boot after install. I get a flashing cursor (no grub). Is that a known issue ?
[06:52] <eagles0513875> Some_ux: works fine for me after install
[06:52] <mkquist> magicjoe: lucid is solid
[06:52] <magicjoe> mkquist: that sounds like the stupidest thing i have ever heard of for an OS update. even a screen resolution change gives you the opportunity to accept or revert before its permanent. in case you change it to a non compatible one!
[06:52] <ceaze> Anyone knows some good mame roms??
[06:52] <magicjoe> i just updated to lucid. and it broke my compiz stuff.
[06:52] <ceaze> That work in ubuntu
[06:52] <mkquist> magicjoe: not gonna argue that, just found it easier to roll with it and install fresh
[06:52] <oldschool> does anyone know how to uninstall ubuntu 10.10 from a external hard drive
[06:53] <Some_ux> I will try to install ubuntu 10.10 server
[06:53] <Rakko> oldschool: reformat it
[06:53] <mkquist> magicjoe: I dont trust the 'update' path with ubuntu, never found it to work well
[06:53] <magicjoe> so id have to start all over, rebuild the cairo-dock from cmake, and then HOPE that my video card can work with it, since its not now,and re-enter all my settings....
[06:53] <Rakko> ceaze: MAME ROMs should work about the same anywhere
[06:53] <sgo11> hi, new to ubuntu, switched from opensuse. for ubuntu-desktop, why ubuntu recommends 32bit version? Is 64bit desktop safe to be used? opensuse and other linux recommend 64bit OS now. why ubuntu desktop still recommends 32bit? thanks.
[06:54] <mkquist> magicjoe: no rebuild cairo dock, just d/l it
[06:54] <Some_ux> I didn't have so many issues with 8.04, it was steady as a rock.
[06:54] <rww> sgo11: Yes, it works fine. The website recommends 32-bit so that people who don't know which type of processor they have aren't confused.
[06:54] <Rakko> I didn't know about that, sgo11, but 64-bit works very well for me
[06:54] <rww> sgo11: If you know 64-bit works, use 64-bit :)
[06:54] <Primedeath> rww explained it perfectly.
[06:54] <magicjoe> is there a POWERPC version of Lucid?
[06:54] <rww> !ppc | magicjoe
[06:54] <KB1JWQ> Froodle: Correct.
[06:54] <sgo11> rww, Rakko got it. thanks a lot for the reply. I will download 64bit desktop version then.
[06:54] <mkquist> magicjoe: honestly, I tried the update way once. took hours and broke things.  Just easier to install fresh.  Kind of like reinstalling, but with the new and improved version
[06:54] <jc> hello,when the terminal shows that no such variable,what should I do?/
[06:55] <magicjoe> lol
[06:55] <Rakko> jc: what variable? what are you trying to do?
[06:55] <ubuntunoob> why do I get  "restart: unknown instance:" when trying to 'sudo restart vsftpd'?
[06:55] <ceaze> Rakko, ok, but do you know some nice ones??
[06:55] <magicjoe> mkquist: so if its NOT finding my video card (cant enable visual effects in apperances) how do i know a fresh install will?
[06:56] <Some_ux> OK, I'm installing from a pendrive (I have no CDROM) and the installer fails because it says no CDROM ? what's up with that ?
[06:56] <magicjoe> and yeah i asked about p pc and it spit out an auto comment. but i am running karmic p pc now
[06:56] <oldschool> Rakko how would i do that i have windows xp on my internal hard drive and now that i have ubuntu install on that external hard drive in wont show up on my windows os
[06:56] <mkquist> magicjoe: might not, but ubuntu seems to improve with each new, at least long term support, release
[06:56] <Rakko> ceaze: nope, sorry
[06:57] <mkquist> magicjoe: what gfx are you using?
[06:57] <magicjoe> mkquist: how do i tell? i am running karmic pow pc
[06:57] <mkquist> magicjoe: im running ubuntu on four diff computers and it works well for me
[06:57] <mkquist> magicjoe: ?
[06:58] <rww> magicjoe: It didn't spit out an auto comment. I told it to tell you about that.
[06:58] <jc> Rakko, uwind
[06:58] <Rakko> oldschool: the drive doesn't show up at all in My Computer?
[06:58] <mkquist> magicjoe: radeon?
[06:58] <magicjoe> mkquist: yeah, i have it dual boot on this ibook g4, and my desktop. i love linux. not just for the compiz personalization, but that helps me like it
[06:58] <jc> Rakko, ncdump -v uwind,vwind -p 3 zigzag4.nc
[06:58] <jc> ncdump: uwind: No such variable
[06:58] <Some_ux> I mean, the installer loads, shows me the menu (which means it found the Pendrive perfectly well) then it complains that there is not CD ?
[06:58] <rww> assuming you meant ubottu.
[06:59] <Rakko> jc: sounds like a problem with either ncdump, or your invocation of it
[06:59] <mkquist> magicjoe: nvidia seems pretty solid, and come to thing of it, have a little media box uses radeon with no problems...
[06:59] <oldschool> Rakko no not no more after i install ubuntu on it the external hard drive
[06:59] <Rakko> !usb drive
[06:59] <oldschool> yes
[07:00] <Rakko> that's odd... I don't know how you would do it in windows
[07:00] <magicjoe> well, my karmic pow pc was doing great, and then i updated to the update manager suggested lucid upgrade....and it worked ok, but now i cannot enable the visual effects, which means, its not recognising my video card, and i have nvidia installed
[07:00] <Rakko> maybe using control panel->administrator tools->computer management->disk management
[07:00] <jc> Rakko, i don't think so
[07:01] <Rakko> Some_ux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[07:01] <Lonniebiz> My laptop's video card won't support me having both a vga and hdmi monitor
[07:01] <jc> Rakko, probably.I think I should read the manul more times
[07:01] <Lonniebiz> running at the same time.
[07:01] <Lonniebiz> I'm running Ubuntu Linux 10.10 64bit.
[07:01] <Lonniebiz> Have you discovered any solutions as of 11/27/2010?
[07:01] <FloodBot2> Lonniebiz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:01] <ubuntunoob> how do i restart vsftpd without restarting my server?
[07:02] <Lonniebiz> Anyone know of a usb video card that will work on Ubuntu Linux?
[07:02] <mkquist> back to watching the boob tube... later all
[07:02] <booduklee> ---------------/etc/init.d/vsftpd restart
[07:02] <magicjoe> mkquist: thats why i hoped to just be able to roll back. but i guess i will just use my ppc karmic, and start from scratch. can i copy my ./config and /etc directories and paste them in a fresh install, then get the core packages that i had and that all work like it used to? the settings anyway?
[07:03] <Some_ux> Rakko thanks, will try
[07:03] <ubuntunoob> i've tried sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart  and I get an error that says use 'sudo restart vsftpd' and i get an error that says "restart: unknown instance"
[07:03] <rahil> asdf
[07:04] <bilalakhtar> !language | mkquist
[07:05] <MrWGW> hey there, are there any kernel updates out for Ubuntu 10.10?   I'm preferrably looking for a patch file
[07:05] <Guest90601> !list
[07:05] <MrWGW> I'm messing around with ksplice and I want to try and do a ksplice-create and ksplice-apply
[07:05] <MrWGW> for the pure heck ofi t
[07:05] <ubuntunoob> "you are attempting to invoke a script that has been converted to an upstart job, use restart
[07:07] <ubuntunoob> how do you restart an 'upstart' job?
[07:07] <rww> sudo service jobnamehere restart
[07:08] <ubuntunoob> rww: "restart: unknown instance:
[07:08] <sl33k_> is lucid upgradable to maverick?
[07:08] <rww> ubuntunoob: then it's probably not already running.
[07:08] <bilalakhtar> ubuntunoob: sudo restart JOB
[07:08] <rww> or you spelled the job name wrong.
[07:08] <bilalakhtar> service is used for system-v scripts
[07:08] <rww> sl33k_: generally, yes
[07:08] <rww> bilalakhtar: nope
[07:08] <sl33k_> rww: how?
[07:08] <rww> !upgrade| sl33k_
[07:08] <ubuntunoob> sudo restart vsftpd /sudo service vsftpd restart ="restart: unknown instance"
[07:09] <ubuntunoob> it is running, because I can connect to it
[07:09] <sl33k_> rww: i have dual boot installed by wubi, will i have any problems?
[07:09] <bilalakhtar> ubuntunoob: it should be as rww said
[07:09] <rww> sl33k_: no idea, I haven't upgraded wubi before
[07:10] <ubuntunoob> vsftpd is running, i can connect to it. but both of those commands yield the same result?
[07:12] <sl33k_> has anyone upgraded 10.04 to 10.10 copy installed by wubi, does it give any problems?
[07:14] <sl33k_> what is difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[07:14] <oldschool> Rakko it there in the disk management but it as unknown partition what would i need to do to fix it and uninstall from here
[07:14] <Lonniebiz> Any know of USB Video Card that will work in Ubuntu Linux? My internal Laptop's video card won't allow me to have both a vga and hdmi external monitor running at the same time.
[07:14] <realeyes> hey guys
[07:14] <realeyes> I'm trying to use repo on 10.10 but it's saying it's not installed.
[07:15] <realeyes> sudo apt-get install repo doesn't work, either.
[07:15] <coz_> realeyes,  which repository?
[07:15] <realeyes> curl http://android.git.kernel.org/repo > ~/bin/repo
[07:15] <realeyes> repo init -u git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b froyo ?
[07:15] <realeyes> I really don't know what I'm doing, to tell the truth.
[07:16] <Lonniebiz> How do you submit a request for hard ware drivers in Linux?
[07:16] <realeyes> Those are the commands, not the repos, but... You get the picture, right? :P
[07:16] <Rakko> oldschool: what do you want to put on the drive? I don't remember exactly how the Windows part works, but you should be able to repartition it or reformat it from there -- if you want to totally replace Ubuntu
[07:16] <simplexio> realeyes: git init =
[07:16] <Lonniebiz> DisplayLink makes USB video cards, but Linux doesn't support them.
[07:16] <realeyes> repo init -u git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b froyo ?
[07:17] <Lonniebiz> anyone?
[07:18] <booduklee> why the ununtu is so popular?
[07:18] <coz_> realeyes, where did you get this   do you have a web page link?
[07:18] <booduklee> why the ununtu is so popular?
[07:18] <jessica_> am i in the right place for wireless atheros help?
[07:18] <booduklee> why the ununtu is so popular?
[07:18] <bilalakhtar> !ot | booduklee
[07:18] <bilalakhtar> !wifi | jessica_
[07:19] <fleckenkorb> looking for help running ubuntu from a usb drive
[07:19] <realeyes> coz_ http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Compile_CyanogenMod_for_Incredible
[07:19] <mtm> m
[07:19] <jessica_> Im looking for help on a ath9k install
[07:19] <jessica_> I think I have it ...but I dont know how to see if the card is on
[07:20] <fleckenkorb> looking for help running ubuntu from a usb drive on an asus ee
[07:20] <coz_> realeyes,  and is it the partner repository that is not downloading?
[07:20] <realeyes> it says repo isn't a valid command
[07:20] <Quan-Time> ok.. ubuntu 10.04 23bit, asus laptop with gbit eth0.  I normally only use my wifi, but sometimes when i want to transfer big files (5gb) to and from my file server, i plug a cable in.  sometimes i get ~35mb/s which is about this hdd's max in this laptop, but sometimes it ONLY connects @ 10mb/s (10/100, not gbit), WHY is that.. its TOTALLY annoying.. ideas ?
[07:21] <_jesse_> fleckenkorb: did you run into an issue?
[07:21] <coz_> realeyes,  and you are following each line of commands   one at a time  with copy paste..yes?
[07:21] <realeyes> Yes.
[07:21] <realeyes> Maybe I should reboot?
[07:21] <fleckenkorb> it won't boot from the usb
[07:21] <booduklee> ----
[07:21] <DtatchD> I was helping someone install ubuntu and they selected show me how to boot off of cd and it began installation. Where does that install to?
[07:21] <_jesse_> fleckenkorb: you might need to change a setting in your BIOS then
[07:22] <fleckenkorb> did that
[07:22] <_jesse_> does it attempt to boot the USB and doesn't?
[07:22] <_jesse_> or does it just skip it?
[07:22] <fleckenkorb> seems to skip it
[07:22] <_jesse_> fleckenkorb: and it's definitely at the front of the boot order? that seems strange
[07:22] <realeyes> you need a bootloader on the USB
[07:23] <fleckenkorb> bootloader?
[07:23] <_jesse_> fleckenkorb: how did you create the USB image?
[07:23] <fleckenkorb> download
[07:23] <booduklee> why I can't send messges?
[07:23] <FappyJones> how do you get to your BIOS setting using Win7, im the one DtatchD was tying to help
[07:23] <_jesse_> fleckenkorb: lol and then what?
[07:23] <booduklee> sorry?
[07:24] <_jesse_> fleckenkorb: if you're on Ubuntu already just use the Strt-up Disk Creator; if you're on Windows checkout http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[07:24] <fleckenkorb> usb creator thing....
[07:25] <_jesse_> ah alright
[07:25] <ubuXubu> turn on computer tap approprate f key Flappyjones
[07:25] <FappyJones> i tried spamming f12 nothing happend
[07:25] <FappyJones> it just went to windows
[07:25] <ubuXubu> what type of computer
[07:25] <coz_> realeyes,  well you could try that   but in all honesty  I am not going to attemtp this ...I am not even sure what it's for at this point
[07:25] <FappyJones> Asus
[07:25] <realeyes> lol
[07:25] <realeyes> alright thx
[07:25] <coz_> realeyes,  but if you followed that tutorial ..line by line..then it may be  that the sever for that repository is down
[07:26] <ubuXubu> i haveasus its f9 flappyjones
[07:26] <john38> weirdest thing my Lan port wasnt working thanksgiving night is that a malfunctioning lan port???
[07:26] <FappyJones> Asus UX series laptop
[07:26] <coz_> realeyes,  you may have to contact the creator of that how to for that
[07:26] <FappyJones> ok thanks ubuXubu
[07:26] <FappyJones> i'll give that a try
[07:26] <ubuXubu> mine is g73
[07:26] <rpin42> ubuntu can't find disk on dual-boot. Can I just install another distro or will I lose the other OS. Using Trisquel card at mo to recover data and/or reinstall
[07:26] <realeyes> coz_ thx alot, mind if i ask what you do on computers?
[07:26] <ubuXubu> asus will tell u if need be
[07:26] <FappyJones> ok imma try f9 now
[07:27] <ubuXubu> kk
[07:27] <oldschool> i just want to delete uninstall ubuntu and just keet useing it like befor as a storage hard drive
[07:28] <rpin42> it was after last update for 10.04 on Dell 9300
[07:28] <john38> weirdest thing my Lan port wasnt working thanksgiving night is that a malfunctioning lan port???
[07:28] <DtatchD> The show me how to boot of cd option puts kernel and grub where by default?
[07:28] <rpin42> ok. I'm jst going to try it
[07:29] <oldschool> Rakko i just want to delete uninstall ubuntu and just keet useing it like befor as a storage hard drive on my windows xp
[07:29] <sl33k_> what is the size of update when updating to 10.10?
[07:29] <sl33k_> from 10.04?
[07:29] <sl33k_> i am on 512k connection
[07:30] <simplexio> oldschool: fdisk /dev/something , and delete partiotion , done
[07:30] <Lonniebiz> Thanks for all the help, you mutes!
[07:30] <fleckenkorb> thanks jesse!
[07:31] <simplexio> oldschool: and removeing grub from start if its on you mbr. use fix_mbr (fixmbr)? in windows. no signs of buntu or grub in system
[07:32] <Quan-Time> sl33k_: i up'd to 10.10 x64, i reinstalled back to 10.04 32bit..
[07:33] <Quan-Time> not worth it imo, too many issues whcih i cbf'd workin out.. 10.04 "works", so unless you have  a NEED to go up, be very wary..
[07:33] <realeyes> coz_ amazingly, I got it to work.
[07:34] <realeyes> Well see if it keeps working, though.
[07:34] <coz_> realeyes,  very cool  what did you do?
[07:35] <Kunalagon> where I can find kernel .config file?
[07:35] <realeyes> I just did various 'repo and 'init commands and read the errors, input the commands on the page in a different order and exchanged the git.address.git in various ways.
[07:35] <oldschool> simplexio am in the windows xp os disk management and when i right click on that hrad drive it has a option to delete partition would this work
[07:36] <llutz_> Kunalagon: /boot/config-$(uname -r)
[07:36] <Aeronius> I'm back! OK, when following the mount USB instructions in community Ubuntu Documentation, I got an error" mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error - try dmesg | tail or so ... when doing the command: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/external -o uid=1000,gid=100,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137
[07:36] <sl33k_> Quan-Time: thanks, was going for the update, now i will not
[07:36] <realeyes> Aeronius: Sounds wicked.
[07:36] <Aeronius> dmesg | tail gave me some stuff, but no help
[07:37] <Kunalagon> llutz_: thanks
[07:37] <Aeronius> I can copy and paste if you like
[07:37] <Aeronius> [  852.779919] FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors
[07:37] <Aeronius> [  852.779925] VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sdb1.
[07:37] <realeyes> pastebin.org plz
[07:38] <realeyes> pastie.org too
[07:39] <Altheas> Hello, is there anyone who could help me solve why ubuntu 10.04 wont install and just be stuck at loading? I already did md5sum and i did memory check and they both checked out and i have a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q9550  @ 2.83GHz processor
[07:39] <Aeronius> should I try to reformat it?
[07:39] <fishscene>  Aeronius: What filesystem is on the drive? HFS+?
[07:39] <realeyes> define 'stuck at loading'
[07:39] <Aeronius> I'm glad I backed it up, FAT 32 is reported by fdisk
[07:39] <realeyes> it takes a LONG time to install
[07:40] <Altheas> it just stays at loading screen
[07:40] <Altheas> doesn't move
[07:40] <frank__> very good
[07:40] <realeyes> hm
[07:40] <realeyes> brb!
[07:40] <Aeronius> http://pastie.org/1327636
[07:41] <fishscene> Aeronius: I had that problem when my HFS+ partition had a bad superblock. The only way to fix it was to install hfsprog(?) and check the disk for errors
[07:42] <kosaidpo> hello guys
[07:42] <Aeronius> http://pastie.org/1327638
[07:42] <kosaidpo> icant open up url's in hotot any idea why
[07:43] <Aeronius> It's just a thumbdrive
[07:43] <Aeronius> I backed it up before deleting the contents, (yay) should I just try to reformat it?
[07:43] <Aeronius> I was wanting to make an install disk out of it, but it's only 1 GB
[07:44] <Aeronius> the USB install creation utility gave me problems because it was too small, then unetbootin wouldn't see it, and ubuntu wouldn't mount it
[07:45] <Jordan_U> Aeronius: 1 GiB should be more than enough.
[07:45] <Aeronius> for unetbootin, yes
[07:45] <S0lder> Really?
[07:45] <Aeronius> but I need to fix it somehow
[07:45] <S0lder> I always thought that you should double the size of the iso
[07:46] <Aeronius> and all of my eggs are in one basket so to speak
[07:46] <theforwhat> I need to restart to zero my linux , but i lost the cd , I wanna know if it got a other way to do
[07:46] <fishscene> theforwhat: You can re-download the iso and burn a CD.
[07:47] <Jordan_U> S0lder: No, it uses files from the iso (the iso file itself if you set it up with grub2) so it's always going to be 700 meg or under.
[07:47] <Aeronius> Jordan_U: you know the USB Startup Disk Creator in System>Administration
[07:47] <Jordan_U> Aeronius: Yes.
[07:47] <Aeronius> it saw it, but said it was too small
[07:47] <Aeronius> so I downloaded unetbootin
[07:47] <Jordan_U> Aeronius: It may not have had enough free space. Did you have any files on the flash drive already?
[07:48] <fishscene> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download 2GB free space on the USB installer
[07:48] <Aeronius> deleted them with ctrl-A and Delete button
[07:48] <Aeronius> so I guess I'll just reformat it with gparted?
[07:49] <guest__> hello
[07:49] <Aeronius> maybe that will fix the problems so it can mount.  I didn't use it a whole lot, but it's a little old
[07:49] <Aeronius> so, gparted reformat?
[07:50] <Jordan_U> Aeronius: Worth a try, yes.
[07:50] <Aeronius> I'm going to do it
[07:50] <daniel> i need help getting my line-in audio to play through my speakers/headphones
[07:52] <Aeronius> Gparted reports all operations successfully completed, in details, format /dev/sdb1 as fat32 00:00:01 check
[07:52] <Aeronius> 1 second seems too fast
[07:52] <Aeronius> but it is just a gig
[07:52] <Jordan_U> Aeronius: It's also small enough that all of the changes can be cached in RAM, then written out to disk while you're doing other things.
[07:52] <Aeronius> anyways, what do I do to see if it mounts, just uplug it?
[07:53] <Aeronius> unplug and replug it?
[07:53] <Jordan_U> Aeronius: sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/external/
[07:54] <Aeronius> oh cool, it's automounted
[07:54] <Aeronius> USB startup creator must have borked it?
[07:54] <Aeronius> anyways, now for unetbootin
[07:55] <Jordan_U> Aeronius: Because of the aformentioned delayed write you don't want to unplug the flash drive right after writing to it (even with gparted) without "ejecting" it (which does more than just unmounting does) or at least running "sync".
[07:55] <Aeronius> damn it, the error message popped up again!
[07:56] <Aeronius> You must first mount the USB drive /dev/sdb1 to a mountpoint. Most distributions will do this automatically after you remove and reinsert the USB drive.
[07:56] <Aeronius> I didn't unplug it, it was automounted, so I went ahead and did unetbootin
[07:59] <Aeronius> [ 1822.583941] ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting.
[07:59] <swimb> the 'rename' file in nautilus has changed in 10.10, any way to make it like it was in 9.10? now it selects the filename and extension to be renamed instead of just the filename
[08:00] <Aeronius> what does that mean?
[08:02] <Aeronius> what is ipw2200?
[08:02] <xiong> swimb, I know what you mean. That's the kind of change I don't like. I suppose you tried prefs.
[08:02] <swimb> i didnt :)
[08:02] <swimb> yes it was so nice the way it was
[08:02] <swimb> oh, nautilus prefs? yep i checked
[08:03] <xiong> Aeronius, Did this happen more than once?
[08:04] <Besogon> good morning everybody! I have a question with Gnome Do. After I've made an alias to gnome-terminal then in time of next using of Gnome Do the alias isn't saved.
[08:04] <Aeronius> this happened slightly differently earlier, the drive wasn't mounted, so I selected the partition (carefully) after pointing unetbootin at the proper ISO and it gave a similar error. I just got unetbootin from the repos
[08:04] <Aeronius> I'm using Ubuntu 9.10
[08:06] <Jordan_U> Aeronius: I think you're going to have problems if you try to make a bootable 10.10 USB with unetbootin or USB creator from 9.10. (though those problems would be completely unrelated to your current problem though).
[08:07] <Aeronius> ipw2200 seems to be my wireless firmware, would seem unrelated
[08:08] <HAX0R> test
[08:08] <rww> Test failed. (A)bort, (R)etry, (C)ontinue?
[08:09] <Aeronius> lol
[08:10] <HAX0R> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService
[08:11] <Aeronius> so any suggestions?
[08:12] <Altheas> ok so i need help installing 10.04 i tried everything for some reason it just gets stuck at loading screen and does nothing
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> Altheas:  whas your video card/chipset?
[08:12] <miklos> hi all
[08:12] <Altheas> Nvidia Geforce 9800 GX2
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> Altheas:  try the 'nomodeset' option.
[08:13] <Altheas> tried that
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> Altheas:  or try the alt-installer cd. then you Might need to use the console to install the nvidia-current drivers befor gettting X starting.
[08:13] <Altheas> ohhh ok i'll try that what is the command line?
[08:14] <Aeronius> Dr_Willis: have you been logging?  Would you check out my issue?
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[08:14] <Altheas> ohhh ok i'll try that thanks man
[08:14] <Altheas> ohh wait
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> Aeronius:  for my 4 nvidia systems. I have to use the nomodeset, or alt-isntaller and then get the nvidia drivers going.
[08:14] <Aeronius> lol, wrong name
[08:14] <Altheas> how do i boot up without a GUI on?
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> or tell it to use the nv driver/disable that neovu driver. or  dosable plymouth
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> Altheas:  the 'text' option can disable gdm/plymouth at boot time
[08:15] <Jordan_U> Altheas: Temproarily or permanently?
[08:15] <tallis> hello ... does anybody have any experience with thin-clients and network boot?
[08:15] <Jordan_U> !anyone | tallis
[08:15] <Altheas> ahhh ok
[08:16] <HAX0R> ok, u get the 10.04 iso, make sure it is not corrupted, burn it to a disk, boot from said disk, if it gets stuck on loading screen try waiting 20-30 mins then retry, works 4 me
[08:16] <HAX0R> thats how u install 10.04
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> HAX0R:  i just tell it the 'nomodeset' option for my nvidia systems. and they normally work for me.. i cant imagine why waiting 20 min would do anything.
[08:17] <nick> Hey Im having a problem getting wifi work on my ubuntu netbook version if someone could help me
[08:18] <HAX0R> get appropriate wifi drivers, plug in wifi or use builtin, then go to wifi find network, put in key (if needed) then connect
[08:20] <sbryant31> I have the package I need, but when I install the dependencies (manually) from the "pool" folder on my startup drive, I get an error
[08:20] <Aeronius> YAY UNetbootin's Working!
[08:20] <Aeronius> I tried it a second time after waiting a while
[08:21] <Aeronius> it's working on the largest file now /casper/filesystem/squashfs
[08:21] <calamity> heya
[08:21] <john38> can somebody help i get this error when compiling driver make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-25-generic'
[08:21] <john38> make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
[08:22] <Aeronius> when it's done, how do I check for integrity?
[08:22] <Aeronius> md5sum?
[08:22] <pksadiq> Aeronius: still not fed up? it's almost a quarter day ;)
[08:22] <calamity> I had an old dapper cd lying around, installed it on an old ibm laptop, but I'm having weird messages come up on bootup, ld-static link fail.
[08:22] <calamity> it also takes about five, ten minutes longer than it should...
[08:23] <john38> Can somebody help??
[08:23] <Aeronius> Dr_Willis: if you're reading up on me, you can probably stop!
[08:23] <Aeronius> yay! the rest of the files!!!
[08:23] <Aeronius> installing bootloader
[08:24] <Aeronius> ... wait...
[08:24] <Aeronius> now it wants to reboot my computer, why?
[08:24] <john38> can somebody help me with a pastebin problem
[08:24] <calamity> john38, state the issue.
[08:25] <Aeronius> Well, that's so I can boot from USB, but this stick is for my comp that's coming in the mail next week, so I just exit, I suppose...
[08:25] <k3y> anyone wanna help me with bridging?
[08:25] <Aeronius> But how do I check my usb drive for errors now?
[08:25] <john38> calamity, http://paste.ubuntu.com/536975/
[08:25] <Aeronius> md5?
[08:26] <calamity> john, I just mean that asking if someone can help isn't gonna work...
[08:26] <calamity> say "this is my problem, can you help?"
[08:26] <calamity> :)
[08:26] <john38> im trying to install compile driver but i get errors
[08:27] <john38> obviously its too big to paste here
[08:27] <Aeronius> now I'm doing md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -vi 'OK$'
[08:28] <Aeronius> I suppose if it works, the drive should work, right?
[08:28] <magicjoe> JORDANU: HEY!!!
[08:29] <magicjoe> jordanu: how was your holiday? good i hope. can you help me with the last step of what we were working on?
[08:29] <john38> Can somebody help me with a compile issue??
[08:30] <Jordan_U> magicjoe: Could you remind me what exactly we were working on? :)
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> john38:  state the issue. see who can help.
[08:31] <bucknasty> We all know that we shouldn't use root (e.g. dont start nginx with root) but how to install/start it with low privileges? Is there a basic linux article about security/root stuff..?
[08:31] <john38> Dr_Willis, i just did
[08:31] <kortsi> running on AMD Opteron K8 I try running "modprobe powernow-k8" but nothing appears in lsmod, and nothing in dmesg. modprobe gives a warning about "All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe/bonding, it will be ignored in a future release"
[08:31] <bucknasty> because I want to start nginx but I dont know how its the right way
[08:31] <magicjoe> JordanU: i had a broken wubi install. i backed up root.disk, and reinstalled wubi. you were going to tell me how to mount the images and copy the working /boot/ to the backed up root.disk
[08:31] <john38> Error in installing driver http://paste.ubuntu.com/536975/ need help??
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> magicjoe:  You can mount the root.disk i think via the loopback feature of the mount command.
[08:32] <Jordan_U> magicjoe: Are you booted into the working wubi system now?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> magicjoe:  similer to how one would do it for an ISO file.
[08:33] <magicjoe> JordanU: no i am on my laptop. but the desktop with wubi is right here. don't i need to boot to my live cd for that though? or do you want me in wubi?
[08:34] <john38> Error in installing driver http://paste.ubuntu.com/536975/ need help??
[08:35] <IrishWristwatch> does anyone know if changing the cipher on openssh is possible
[08:35] <IrishWristwatch> I want to use 3des instead of aes or whatever it's using
[08:36] <greenIT> i can't install eclipse... i used the debian-ppa (didn't read debian), then i removed it and now it says that it can't install eclipse because there have to be older versions of some packages... can some1 help me?
[08:36] <magicjoe> JordanU: if you don't want to take the time, i understand. if you do, my offer to pay you still stands. if its just not a good time, let me know anytime that works for you, and i can work with that. really, this is important to me.
[08:36] <calamity> john38, look, like this: "I had [this error] when I installed [this driver]"
[08:37] <john38> calamity, but i get numerous errors
[08:37] <greenIT> is there an eclipse-repo with the latest eclipse-version for ubuntu?
[08:37] <calamity> so list some of them.
[08:37] <magicjoe> JordanU: my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in case you lost it. even if you could email me some detailed instructions on this process, i would be happy! and i am a man of my word, i will pay you.
[08:38] <calamity> bloody pigeons...
[08:38] <greenIT> calamity: did u write that to john or to me?
[08:38] <xiong> What will happen if I install two different versions of Glib?
[08:39] <IrishWristwatch> Can anybody help me with my OpenSSH-related question?
[08:39] <calamity> greenIT, to john
[08:39] <_jesse_> bucknasty: sudo /etc/init.d/nginx start to start nginx
[08:39] <greenIT> calamity: ok
[08:39] <greenIT> irishwristwatch, what is ur question?
[08:39] <IrishWristwatch> Is it possible to manually set the encryption type to something like 3DES.
[08:39] <john38> I have this error[http://paste.ubuntu.com/536975/] when installing LAN[r8168-8.012.00] driver
[08:39] <IrishWristwatch> I'm kind of confused on how that all works.
[08:40] <IrishWristwatch> OpenSSH supports 3DES, Blowfish, AES
[08:41] <IrishWristwatch> But, I can't find anything in the man pages on how to set it for a certain cipher.
[08:41] <john38> for god sakes can anybody take a look at my pastebin
[08:41] <llutz_> IrishWristwatch: man ssh (-cipher)   man sshd_config (cipher option)
[08:41] <IrishWristwatch> ok
[08:41] <Jordan_U> magicjoe: Let's see if we can fix this in the next 20 minutes. If not then noon PST tomorrow would be a good time to continue.
[08:41] <llutz_> IrishWristwatch: man ssh (-c cipher_spec)   sry
[08:41] <FishFace> john: I did. And I have no idea. But you are not alone. There is some guy who pasted a script to fix that, but it might be dated
[08:42] <magicjoe> JordanU:works for me. whatever is most convenient for you
[08:42] <Jordan_U> magicjoe: Either a LiveCD or the wubi install will work. If you boot into wubi there's one less thing to mount so it's slightly easier :)
[08:42] <john38> FishFace, do i need to install anything from repo
[08:42] <ikus060> Hi All, I've been experiencing some latency lately. It's seams to be related to Xorg using all the cpu soon are something happen on the screen. Is there problem is well known ? Graphic card : nvidia
[08:42] <ikus060> Thanks in advance
[08:42] <john38> FishFace, sudo apt-get ??
[08:42] <magicjoe> JordanU: ok, and for reference, my backed up root.disk is now in the folder with the new one but named .bak
[08:43] <IrishWristwatch> Thanks llutz_ , I'll check those pages out.
[08:43] <magicjoe> JordanU: booting to wubi installation now
[08:43] <ylmf> hello
[08:43] <HAX0R> r u on live cd of ylmfos
[08:43] <FishFace> john38: No idea. But you could look at this lengthy post and see how others might have got it working - http://www.jamesonwilliams.com/hardy-r8168
[08:43] <ylmf> Can you speak chinese
[08:43] <HAX0R> no
[08:44] <ylmf> ....
[08:44] <llutz_> !cn | ylmf
[08:44] <HAX0R> do u know how to use english version of ylmf os
[08:44] <ylmf> I like ylmf os
[08:44] <greenIT> is there an eclipse-repo with the latest eclipse for ubuntu?
[08:44] <HAX0R> sweet dude
[08:44] <HAX0R> i got live cd
[08:44] <greenIT> !eclipse
[08:44] <ylmf> china ylmf os
[08:45] <ylmf> ubuntu10.5
[08:45] <HAX0R> just pick first option then select english, to use in english
[08:45] <EpicFialGuy> ive a problem with gnome
[08:45] <IrishWristwatch> iirc ylmf is just ubuntu with a windows xp skin?
[08:45] <HAX0R> no
[08:45] <magicjoe> JordanU: also so you know, i ran the same wubi-installer as before, not the newest one, in hopes of best compatibility
[08:45] <IrishWristwatch> ah, ok then.
[08:45] <EpicFialGuy> all window borders are gone
[08:45] <Jp> how do i install this in 10.04> http://macpablodesigns.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/enable-personal-file-sharing-in-ubuntu-10-04/
[08:45] <EpicFialGuy> i cannot manage window locations
[08:46] <EpicFialGuy> and i cannot type when the cursor is outside an active window
[08:46] <EpicFialGuy> gnome-window-properties is not working
[08:46] <HAX0R> ylmf is better,uses different options, looks better, and is just plain awesome
[08:46] <nicofs> My pidgin is v2.7.3 -installed via Synaptic- but has problems authenticating (MSN). I am told that this should be solved in v2.7.7 (current version). How do I upgrade, if the upgrade is not yet in Synaptic?
[08:46] <EpicFialGuy> purging /.gnome2/ of files did nothing
[08:46] <EpicFialGuy> nicofs: apt-get ?
[08:47] <ylmf> What is your version?
[08:47] <IrishWristwatch> nicofs, I've been having that same problem as well
[08:47] <Jp> how do i enable personal file sharing for bluetooth?
[08:47] <bucknasty> _jesse_: starting nginx is not the problem, but with low privileges (security reasons)
[08:47] <IrishWristwatch> Since yesterday, my pidgin has been giving me cert errors
[08:47] <magicjoe> JordanU: loaded wubi terminal open, as root.
[08:47] <IrishWristwatch> I thought it might've been someone trying to do a man in the middle attack
[08:47] <nicofs> EpicFialGuy: apt-get update; then apt-get upgrade ? not working.
[08:47] <ylmf> I have ubuntu 9.0
[08:47] <fishscene> Irish, for MSN?
[08:47] <IrishWristwatch> so I havn't logged in
[08:47] <IrishWristwatch> yes
[08:47] <ylmf> I have ubuntu 9.0
[08:47] <HAX0R> in ubuntu, how do you use root
[08:47] <IrishWristwatch> fishman_, yes.
[08:48] <fishscene> I just fired up pidgin today for the first time in months and I got that message.
[08:48] <Jordan_U> !root | HAX0R
[08:48] <FishFace> nicofs: You have to manage your MSN certificates manually 'they say'. Join #pidgin and see the topic
[08:48] <john38> FishFace, i am using 2.6.32-25 which source and headers do i need
[08:48] <IrishWristwatch> Yeah
[08:48] <IrishWristwatch> I think microsoft might've switched something up.
[08:48] <_jesse_> bucknasty: hmm? People warn against making the webserver run as the root user, you need to use sudo to start it up though
[08:48] <ylmf> aha
[08:48] <_jesse_> bucknasty: it will run under it's own user though
[08:48] <FishFace> john38: I can't help you because I don't know enough about it.
[08:48] <Jp> how do i enable personal file sharing for bluetooth ubuntu 10.04
[08:48] <john38> FishFace, ok
[08:48] <Jp> ?
[08:48] <HAX0R> i kno, but in debian, u can set root password
[08:48] <IrishWristwatch> Never run a webserver as root, because of exploits
[08:48] <_jesse_> ^ right
[08:48] <nicofs> FishFace: "we released Pidgin 2.7.7 with what we believe to be a complete fix to the problem." why not install that?
[08:49] <Aeronius> *ahem* if I run md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -vi 'OK$' and it returns to the command line without saying anything, does that mean the USB drive is good?
[08:49] <Jordan_U> HAX0R: We don't support having a root password set.
[08:49] <ulancie> salam semua heuheuheu
[08:49] <nucleus> someone more then me that have problems with the reppos? when i reload in synaptic a reppo is broken.... i have tried with other sources to... ?
[08:49] <EpicFialGuy> anyone help?
[08:49] <ylmf> what is your system?
[08:49] <HAX0R> but how do u change root password in ubuntu 10.04
[08:49] <Jordan_U> HAX0R: Why do you think you need to set a root password?
[08:49] <ylmf> what is your system?
[08:49] <IrishWristwatch> HAX0R, in ubuntu we use sudo instead of a root account
[08:49] <ulancie> can any peolple help me
[08:49] <EpicFialGuy> ubuntu 10.10
[08:49] <FishFace> nicofs: Well, because it was kind of fixed. Did you check this? - http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/MSNCertIssue
[08:49] <IrishWristwatch> sudo <command> runs the command as root
[08:49] <HAX0R> but CAN you change the root password
[08:49] <IrishWristwatch> yes you can
[08:49] <glebihan> !ask | ulancie
[08:50] <IrishWristwatch> but it's not recommended
[08:50] <HAX0R> how
[08:50] <Jordan_U> magicjoe: Can you pastebin the output of "mount" and the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[08:50] <Flannel> HAX0R: Sure, but there's no useful reason to.
[08:50] <IrishWristwatch> passwd root
[08:50] <IrishWristwatch> er
[08:50] <IrishWristwatch> sudo passwd root
[08:50] <FloodBot2> IrishWristwatch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <Flannel> HAX0R: What are you hoping to accomplish when you set the root password?
[08:50] <ylmf> what systemyou are using?
[08:50] <ylmf> what system you are using?
[08:50] <nicofs> FishFace: that's where I got the quote from...
[08:50] <IrishWristwatch> HAX0R, then you do passwd -u root to unlock
[08:50] <IrishWristwatch> but please don't do this if you don't have to
[08:51] <_jesse_> ylmf: can you stop asking that please?
[08:51] <magicjoe> JordanU: how do i pastebin the contents of the directory?
[08:51] <Jp> how do i enable personal file sharing for bluetooth under ubuntu 10.10?
[08:51] <glebihan> nucleus: what error message are you getting ?
[08:51] <EpicFialGuy> my gnome has no window borders, please help
[08:51] <ylmf> OK
[08:51] <Jordan_U> magicjoe: It's not a directory, it's a single file.
[08:51] <HAX0R> but why is changing root password unrecommended if u change it to sumthing good
[08:51] <_jesse_> HAX0R: because there's no need to have one at all
[08:51] <Flannel> HAX0R: Because there's no benefits to having it set, and at least one downside.
[08:52] <magicjoe> JordanU: the first one is http://pastebin.com/UX5JBVMK
[08:52] <nucleus> glebihan: this "W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY DB141E2302FDF932
[08:52] <nucleus> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release "
[08:52] <Aeronius> *YesOrNo* if I run md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -vi 'OK$' and it returns to the command line without saying anything, does that mean the USB drive is good?
[08:52] <EpicFialGuy> my gnome has no window borders, please help
[08:52] <FishFace> nicofs: All I know is that a bunch of people come in that channel and get it fixed. Usually from that link. I don't have MSN so I can't tell you either way.
[08:52] <glebihan> nucleus: run "sudo apt-key adv --keyserver kerver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys DB141E2302FDF932" then "sudo apt-get update"
[08:53] <nucleus> glebihan: alright, thx!
[08:53] <magicjoe> JordanU: i cat the file, and piped to pastebin, hope it was right. http://pastebin.com/wZpJsR6F
[08:53] <nicofs> FishFace: my problem is rather why I can't have the latest version of pidgin...
[08:53] <glebihan> nucleus: you're welcome
[08:53] <_jesse_> Aeronius: yes that means the md5sum didn't find any errors given that file
[08:54] <EpicFialGuy> my gnome has no window borders, please help
[08:54] <john38> FishFace, one question if a nic fails one day but works the next day is that hardware issue
[08:55] <FishFace> john38: Yep. Laptop maybe? Is the light lit up?
[08:55] <FishFace> john38: Or on your router/modem? Lit up?
[08:55] <john38> FishFace, its working today link light is orange activity is yellow
[08:55] <john38> FishFace, pc
[08:56] <buzain> glebihan: what do I do if apt-get gives a Hash Sum mismatch?
[08:56] <FishFace> nicofs: What happens when you go to the pidgin.im site and install as they say?
[08:56] <glebihan> buzain: what is the exact error message ?
[08:56] <Jordan_U> magicjoe: sudo mount -o loop /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk.bak /mnt/
[08:57] <FishFace> john38: Could be a bad cable also. Guessing.
[08:57] <EpicFialGuy> why won't anyone at least try to help me? there's one bum over at #gnome that tried
[08:57] <Jordan_U> !patience | EpicFialGuy
[08:57] <nicofs> FishFace: what kind of installation? that certificate thing or installing from scratch?
[08:57] <magicjoe> JordanU:done
[08:57] <john38> FishFace, i just want to know if it will fail again or do i need to get nic replaced
[08:58] <KB1JWQ> EpicFialGuy: Try restarting the metacity service.
[08:58] <IrishWristwatch> EpicFialGuy, are you using compiz or metacity
[08:58] <EpicFialGuy> compiz i suppose, let me check my synaptic
[08:58] <nicofs> FishFace: never mind. just found out...
[08:58] <IrishWristwatch> that happened to me once before as well
[08:58] <FishFace> nicofs: Yep - http://pidgin.im/download/ubuntu/
[08:58] <IrishWristwatch> I can't remember how I fixed it though
[08:58] <IrishWristwatch> I'll try to remember
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> EpicFialGuy:  no borders = compiz or metacity crashed.. restart one or both of them. Try 'fusion-icon' tool to automatcally restart them iof they crash a log.
[08:59] <EpicFialGuy> both are installed
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> EpicFialGuy:  alt-f2  -> 'metacity --replace'
[08:59] <Jordan_U> magicjoe: sudo mv /mnt/boot/ /mnt/boot-bak2; sudo cp -r /boot/ /mnt/
[08:59] <Aeronius> _jesse_: thank you!!!
[08:59] <EpicFialGuy> i'll do what dr willis says, brb
[09:00] <magicjoe> JordanU: DONE
[09:00] <nicofs> FishFace: just by chance, do you know why pidgin is shipped with - but not updated in ubuntu?
[09:00] <FishFace> john: If your system sees the card ok, then its probably not that, as long as it is enabled. Or a bad cable. But for a few bucks I might try a new or even used card. Don't know why that particular driver is such a problem.
[09:00] <IrishWristwatch> pidgin isn't shopped with ubuntu anymore is it?
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> nicofs:  6 mo release cycle. everything eveutually gets out of date. If you want latest - try the PPA's
[09:00] <Dr_Willis> !info pidgin
[09:01] <FishFace> nicofs: They just went through 2 or 3 changes in the last month because of MSN and ICQ problems.  La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[09:01] <IrishWristwatch> if you want to the latest builds I guess.
[09:02] <rww> hrm
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> EpicFialGuy:  that was such a faq. It gets asked in here probelry 4x a day..
[09:02] <rww> TEST MESSAGE PLEASE IGNORE
[09:02] <songer> rww: no escribas todo en mayusculas, va contra las normas. La proxima vez seras expulsado.
[09:02] <nicofs> FishFace: I know - but they had to in order for pidgin to work... I guess to inexperianced or new users it is an inconveniance that it wasn't updated automatically...
[09:02] <Jordan_U> magicjoe: sudo umount /mnt/; sudo mv /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk.new; sudo mv /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk.bak /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk
[09:02] <rww> songer: Turn that script off, please.
[09:02] <IrishWristwatch> good job Dr_Willis
[09:02] <Dr_Willis> EpicFialGuy:  if compiz keeps crashing you can install/run 'fusion-icon' it will auto-restart it
[09:03] <magicjoe> JordanU: DONE!
[09:04] <FishFace> nicofs: I know what you mean. But if Pidgin had a problem with its ICQ or whatever and someone 'just' installed Ubuntu, then there wouldn't be enough time gap for the fix. So yeah, it needs watching.
[09:04] <buzain> glebihan: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid-updates/main/source/Source.bz2: Hash Sum mismatch
[09:04] <EpicFialGuy> gentlemen, one more question
[09:04] <IrishWristwatch> pidgin is much better than empathy
[09:05] <EpicFialGuy> do you know a way to apply "no special text rendering" rule to every app?
[09:05] <nicofs> FishFace: I think it's rather that ICQ has a problem with pidgin^^ but thanks for your help anyway. much appreciated.
[09:05] <Jordan_U> magicjoe: Try rebooting into wubi again. If you're really lucky you'll boot into the old wubi install. I expect there to be further problems to deal with, but I do think there's a good chance it will at least boot now,
[09:05] <EpicFialGuy> because i just love the crisp font used in pre-vista windoses
[09:05] <FishFace> nicofs: Yeah. They keep changing stuff. Your welcome.
[09:05] <magicjoe> JordanU: im guessing that was the end of that . yeah reboot now. ok trying it!
[09:05] <EpicFialGuy> i nearly achieved it in my ubuntu, but it's not globally applied
[09:06] <IrishWristwatch> EpicFialGuy, define "no special text rendering"?
[09:06] <gorski> why this is a nonsolution problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/441835 although downgrading udisks helps?
[09:06] <glebihan> buzain: try switching to the main server instead of the US one
[09:06] <EpicFialGuy> IrishWristwatch: by default all text in ubuntu is rounded, as if it was anti-aliased
[09:06] <IrishWristwatch> if you go to System > Preferences > Appearance > Fonts you can change some system fonts there EpicFialGuy
[09:07] <EpicFialGuy> IrishWristwatch: I turned on monochromatic rendering there
[09:07] <EpicFialGuy> IrishWristwatch: I want to apply it globally
[09:07] <Aeronius> *query* is there are simple way of testing a USB thumb drive for integrity?
[09:07] <EpicFialGuy> some apps refuse to use this setting
[09:07] <EpicFialGuy> like winamp, tor, firefox...
[09:08] <st> EpicFialGuy, use .fonts.conf
[09:08] <Merlin_> hello?
[09:08] <buzain> glebihan: how do you do that on a server using CLI? manually editing sources.list?
[09:08] <magicjoe> JordanU: /etc/apparmor/initramfs: 27: /sbin/apparmor_parser: not found Mount of root filesystem failed A mainenance shell will now be started CONTROL-D will terminate this shell and reboot the system Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D to continue)
[09:09] <Merlin_> anyone home that can help me with my first ever installation of Ubuntu?
[09:09] <glebihan> buzain: yes I guess that's the solution (never used server edition, so not sure if there's any tool to do that another way)
[09:10] <nicofs> in a shell script (bash), how do I make a loop that runs until a certain keystroke?
[09:10] <ChaoRhi> !bash | nicofs
[09:10] <buzain> glebihan: thanks for your help anyways
[09:10] <glebihan> buzain: you're welcome
[09:10] <ChaoRhi> nicofs ... wait, that didn't work right
[09:10] <Merlin_> anyone?
[09:10] <IrishWristwatch> lol
[09:10] <IrishWristwatch> Merlin_,
[09:11] <IrishWristwatch> What are you installing it on, and which version of Ubuntu?
[09:11] <Merlin_> the newest version on my old Dell computer? 4550?
[09:11] <IrishWristwatch> If it's a windows computer do you plan on keeping the windows partition?
[09:11] <Merlin_> no
[09:12] <EpicFialGuy> ive another gnome related problem ;_;
[09:12] <Merlin_> i dont think so, the windows is all messed up and my friend said I would like Ubuntu
[09:12] <Aeronius> *query* is there are simple way of testing a USB thumb drive for integrity?
[09:12] <magicjoe> JordanU: so maybe try you at noon tomorrow?
[09:12] <EpicFialGuy> when i want to go to my user folder via gnome bar, it tried to open my folder with gedit and not nautilus
[09:12] <Jordan_U> magicjoe: Yes.
[09:12] <IrishWristwatch> Merlin_, I suggest googling to see if other people have installed ubuntu on that same computer and if they encountered any problems
[09:12] <IrishWristwatch> Then either test Ubuntu with a LiveCD, or just install it
[09:13] <IrishWristwatch> it's pretty straight forward
[09:13] <Merlin_> thanks Irish... there has to be a way
[09:13] <magicjoe> JordanU: ok. thanks for givin it a go.
[09:13] <IrishWristwatch> on the same computer model*
[09:13] <Jordan_U> magicjoe: You're welcome.
[09:13] <Merlin_> I did a memory test, I finally got the Ubuntu screen to come up, but nothing after that..... the screen just takes forever
[09:13] <IrishWristwatch> Merlin_, if your computer is too slow for the LiveCD, I suggest you try the alternate installer
[09:14] <magicjoe> JordanU: i can always rename the .disk files in windows, and have the new install to work off of worst case scenario. but if you are up for it tomorrow, ill try to find you.
[09:14] <Merlin_> alternate installer?
[09:14] <FishFace> Aeronius: I know you have been working on this for hours.  This should resolve any problems with your current OS you might have. Which I doubt you have any IMO.
[09:15] <FishFace> Aeronius: I mean current problems with the USB drive
[09:15] <IrishWristwatch> Merlin_, the alternate installer is the "text-based" installer
[09:15] <Merlin_> hmm
[09:15] <IrishWristwatch> which uses less system resources
[09:15] <Merlin_> gotta figure out how to do that
[09:15] <IrishWristwatch> it's useful for installs on older machines
[09:16] <IrishWristwatch> eh, just download the alternate cd .iso and burn it
[09:16] <Merlin_> Im going to come back in mIRC and research and talk to you some more
[09:16] <IrishWristwatch> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download
[09:16] <IrishWristwatch> There is the link.
[09:16] <wissem> hi all
[09:16] <kermit> how do i upgrade certain packages but stay in 10.4LTS ?
[09:17] <st> kermit, add repositories from maverick
[09:17] <wissem> i m having a problem with fsck , i can not boot my karmic anymore !
[09:17] <Aeronius> FishFace: I think I have a usable thumbdrive, I don't really have a good live cd anyways, but I just want to make sure before I call it done. I'm waiting for my new laptop to come in the mail
[09:17] <wissem> in rescue mode i get this message : "fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16."
[09:18] <FishFace> Aeronius: I figure that you should have got it by now since you tried so many things. Maybe the drive is a POS and its time to toss it :)
[09:19] <wissem> any help .
[09:19] <benpowers23> help!!!
[09:19] <Aeronius> is the right thing to do to unmount it, and run fsck on it? I think it works because the md5sums checked out
[09:20] <Aeronius> I just want to be doubly sure
[09:20] <wissem> i m on a live cd
[09:20] <wissem> i did sudo fsck -y /dev/sda6
[09:21] <wissem> no error
[09:21] <wissem> while sudo fsck -y /dev/sda7 comes up with a error(it s the swap partition !)
[09:21] <Niks> Hi everyone..
[09:21] <FishFace> Aeronius: Yeah. Unmount it if you can. I don't know where you are at with it at this point and there are others who might be able to direct you further. OR - Format it in a windows machine :)
[09:21] <benpowers23> i tried to kubuntu and have pretty much screwed my ubuntu os i want to do a clean install, but im having trouble
[09:21] <Niks> I am stuck during the installation ...
[09:21] <benpowers23> anyone help?
[09:21] <Aeronius> FishFace: I told you I think it works, but I just want to run fsck to be sure
[09:21] <Niks> ubuntu 10.10 through a USB disk..
[09:22] <Niks> Please help..
[09:22] <Aeronius> I did the md5sums on it, no errors
[09:22] <Aeronius> what's the right syntax for fsck?
[09:23] <Niks> I am stuck in the installation.. cant go back.. please help...!!
[09:23] <IrishWristwatch> Niks, what's up
[09:23] <FishFace> Niks: If you explain where you are stuck and maybe more details, someone might help.
[09:25] <FishFace> Aeronius: I dunno. But these guys do - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=458770
[09:25] <Niks> FishFace: While installing.. a dialog comes which asks for username, name, etc details.. and below there is a bar which shows how much has the installation completed.. the thing is the "forward" button is dead.. !!!
[09:25] <rww> Niks: change the upper case letters in the username to lower case
[09:26] <xuekan> FloodBot2: can open proxy users enter here?
[09:26] <rww> xuekan: no
[09:26] <Niks> rww: Yes it has worked..!! Thanks a ton..
[09:27] <Niks> rww: I would have never figured this out..
[09:27] <Aeronius> it says use the fsck -f switch to force a check? Does that go like this: fsck -f /dev/sdb1
[09:27] <FishFace> Niks: 2 things.  I never saw the forward button be stuck or grayed out. And also, can you see ALL of the screen? Something not visable?
[09:27] <rww> Niks: Yeah, it should tell you. It's a bug :(
[09:27] <FishFace> rww: Good one :)
[09:28] <xuekan> rww:oh,thanks.
[09:29] <Aeronius> ok, gonna run it with -V and -v switches too
[09:31] <IrishWristwatch> rww, is that a pretty common bug?
[09:32] <st> linux usernames are case-sensitive except when they are uppercase
[09:34] <Aeronius> would someone look at this and opine if they think I have a problem? http://pastie.org/1327740
[09:35] <thewanderer1> guys, when I install a new kernel, /var/run/reboot-required is created. when does it get removed, and by what?
, lol after rebooting
[09:37] <thewanderer1> yes, but what removes it? it doesn't just disappear, does it?
[09:37] <llutz_> thewanderer1:  grep -ri reboot-required /etc/*
[09:38] <rww> IrishWristwatch: The installer one? Yeah. Comes up a handful of times a day.
[09:38] <magicjoe> OK i need help with somethng easy. i found a radeon driver i think i need. it was a tar.gz. i extracted it. it says to run ./configure then make then make install. well the ./configure worked great.....now make errors. what am i doing wrong. im a noob to this
[09:39] <singularity_> greetings
[09:39] <rww> heh
[09:39] <Moreliini> magicjoe: what are the errors?
[09:40] <magicjoe> no target specified
[09:41] <magicjoe> Moreliini: i cd to the directory and then did ./configure. but when i type make, it says no target specified. im in the folder!
[09:41] <Moreliini> magicjoe: Is there a Makefile in there?
[09:41] <incandenza> thewanderer1: /var/run is a temporary filesystem (note how it's mounted), so it gets completely reset on reboot
[09:42] <magicjoe> Moreliini: there are 2 a .am and a .in
[09:42] <thewanderer1> incandenza: here it's not temporary, I can't see it in `mount`
[09:42] <magicjoe> Moreliini: i got the tar.gz from here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/1:6.13.0-1ubuntu5
[09:42] <incandenza> thewanderer1: there might be a script that clears it on boot, then.  not sure
[09:42] <Moreliini> magicjoe: and the configure script said it was successful
[09:44] <magicjoe> Moreliini: ah no. it did a bunch of stuff, but now it says requirements not met. no package xorg-server no package fontproto
[09:44] <incandenza> thewanderer1: in any case, those are temporary files (like pids of running processes) that aren't meant to persist across boots
[09:44] <thewanderer1> okay, I see. I'll look around the init scripts, thanks
[09:45] <Aeronius> would someone look at this and opine if they think I have a problem? http://pastie.org/1327740
[09:45] <magicjoe> Moreliini: so what does that mean for me? look for those packages in synaptic? or do they need to be in this folder? am i supposed to be in the root of the unzipped file, or in the /src folder?
[09:46] <thewanderer1> yup, the file gets removed by /lib/init/bootclean.sh as called by mountnfs-bootclean.sh, heh :P
[09:46] <Moreliini> magicjoe: You'll run make in the root where the Makefile is, not src. Apt-get the dependencies
[09:47] <Moreliini> magicjoe: You should not need to copy anything else over into the project dir
[09:48] <magicjoe> Moreliini: sudo apt-get install xorg-server says couldn't find package!
[09:48] <Aeronius> *MayIGetJustASecondOfYourTime* would someone look at this and opine if they think I have a problem? I am a bit troubled.  http://pastie.org/1327740
[09:49] <Moreliini> magicjoe: xserver-xorg-dev should include whatever you might need
[09:50] <kuru> I'm on karmic and want to know how I can get the i686 compiled version of mysql-server-5.1 ?
[09:51] <shachaf> What's the standard program people use when they want to run a virtual machine nowadays?
[09:51] <Moreliini> shachaf: VirtualBox
[09:52] <Guest877> vmware
[09:53] <llutz_> kvm
[09:55] <SIngularity9001> greetings
[09:55] <n3rV3> Virtualbox shachaf easy to use minimal configuration
[09:55] <n3rV3> and its free as of now
[09:56] <suprengr> [cardboard box.. eveen more so]  ;)
[09:56] <shachaf> n3rV3: I'd prefer "works well" to "easy to use minimal configuration". :-)
[09:56] <SIngularity9001> VMware player
[09:56] <SIngularity9001> currently using it , and its free
[09:56] <shachaf> And it's only free if you don't want RDP/USB support, it looks like.
[09:56] <r_a_f> how to send file between 2 ubuntu laptops via wifi?
[09:56] <SIngularity9001> its works well..and barely has to configure.
[09:56] <magicjoe> Moreliini: ok, got past that part, but still not complete in the ./configure. need xf86driproto any idea where to get that? apt-get install says not found
[09:56] <n3rV3> r_a_f, scp
[09:57] <r_a_f> n3rV3: THANKS ;)
[09:57] <Moreliini> apt-cache search xf86driproto
[09:57] <Moreliini> magicjoe: apt-cache search xf86driproto
[09:59] <SIngularity9001> its not true ..
[09:59] <SIngularity9001> i have it for free , and yet i have usb support and  RDP
[10:00] <llutz_> SIngularity9001: depends on your definition of "free"
[10:00] <llutz_> SIngularity9001: the puel-version is cost-free but not free software
[10:00] <root_>  any one here know about plug ins  of  Ubuntu
[10:00] <bazhang> root_, plugins?
[10:00] <root_>  yup
[10:01] <bazhang> root_, perhaps you mean kernel modules
[10:01] <root_> yup
[10:01] <bazhang> root_, please clarify
[10:02] <SIngularity9001> dosent matter ..
[10:02] <Moreliini> what's it called when you drop a line from a boat and motor slowly?
[10:02] <bazhang> Moreliini, offtopic
[10:02] <Moreliini> bazhang: trolling
[10:02] <rww> Moreliini: no, seriously, it is. Try #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[10:02] <magicjoe> Moreliini: ok so if i did that successfully, and the make ran, but then i get a bunch of errors on make install......does that mean this driver is not for me?
[10:02] <bazhang> Moreliini, trawling actually, but still offtopic
[10:02] <rww> oh.
[10:02] <rww> I see what you did there :(
[10:03] <bucknasty> I accidentally deleted pictures from my sd card. I used ddrescue to copy everything. Now I have a output file which is 15GB big. How can I extract the files now?
[10:03] <llutz_> bucknasty: try photorec
[10:03] <Moreliini> magicjoe: you ran make and it succeeded?
[10:03] <bucknasty> and if there are videos too?
[10:03] <llutz_> bucknasty: it recovery various filetypes, not only picturefiles
[10:04] <llutz_> recovers
[10:04] <Aeronius> *help?* would someone look at this and opine if they think I have a problem? I am a bit troubled.  http://pastie.org/1327740
[10:04] <magicjoe> Moreliini: nope make did NOT succeed. sorry. a bunch of struct radeon_dri has no member named....depthBits.....etcetera
[10:04] <bucknasty> and you think it is able to open the "output" file? because I just have this file now
[10:05] <shashwatpns> how do i upgrade from alternate cd?
[10:05] <llutz_> bucknasty: its an image-file, read photorecs man-page for options
[10:05] <magicjoe> radeon_accel.lo error 1
[10:05] <bucknasty> llutz_ I downloaded it and tried to open the output file, but its not working
[10:05] <magicjoe> brb cigarette........stress!
[10:06] <Moreliini> magicjoe: me too, when you return let me know what you're trying to do
[10:11] <magicjoe> Moreliini: well, since updating through update manager to lucid, my video card is not working. im powerpc
[10:12] <magicjoe> Moreliini: was all working perfect before this update!
[10:12] <thevishy> how to use python in ubuntu ? does it have a a default IDE or should I install one
[10:12] <ElNota> thevishy: Type in terminal 'python'
[10:13] <Aeronius> *help* would someone look at this and opine if they think I have a problem? I am a bit troubled. I ran fsck on my thumbdrive, here's the output:  http://pastie.org/1327740
[10:13] <Aeronius> thevishy: install IDLE
[10:13] <thevishy> ok I will try both thanks
[10:14] <Aeronius> typing python in the command line just gets you the python prompt
[10:14] <thevishy> yes I need a gui , IDLE would be a good choice
[10:14] <Aeronius> If you want an IDE, IDLE is made for Python, (get it, Eric Idle?)
[10:15] <Yautja_cetanu> I'm setting up a web server. I'm thinking of putting /home /var and /etc in seperate partitions to /
[10:15] <Yautja_cetanu> Is that a good idea?
[10:16] <Yautja_cetanu> (I've heard there is no problem with /home and /var but is it worth putting /etc in a seperate partition?)
[10:16] <Aeronius> if you're just learning, you should probably start with the latest version too, the default Python in Ubuntu is 2 (to my knowledge), which isn't compatible with the latest, 3
[10:16] <palacios> hola
[10:17] <Moreliini> thevishy: if you don't need 3x nothing compares to ipython
[10:17] <thevishy> !version
[10:17] <Yautja_cetanu> hmmmm ok I can't put /etc in a seperate folder
[10:17] <nicofs> !es | palacios
[10:18] <Jordan_U> Aeronius: Did you unplug the thumb drive without ejecting it or running "sync"?
[10:18] <Aeronius> Haven't unplugged it
[10:19] <Aeronius> I did the rightclick unmount
[10:19] <Aeronius> then I scanned it
[10:19] <thevishy> Have not heard of ipython , is it an advance interactive shell for python ?
[10:19] <Aeronius> did you look at the pastie?
[10:20] <Moreliini> thevishy: yes, I use it for development testing
[10:20] <thevishy> Python 2.7 is the latest no ? And ubuntu has 2.6 which looks ifne
[10:20] <thevishy> Right , will have a look at ipython to , thanks
[10:20] <Aeronius> python 3.1 is out already
[10:20] <thevishy> Oh , didn't know that !
[10:20] <Aeronius> http://www.python.org/
[10:21] <Aeronius> 2 and 3 aren't compatible, if you're just learning, learn 3
[10:22] <Aeronius> or work on converting the code in books usually 2, to 3...
[10:22] <thevishy> i am reading from beginning python book  -2002 edition
[10:23] <Moreliini> thevishy: good for beginning: http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/python-osmosis/id317462382
[10:23] <thevishy> thanks
[10:24] <Moreliini> np
[10:24] <Aeronius> then convert, or use the documentation online
[10:24] <Aeronius> http://wiki.python.org/moin/Python2orPython3
[10:26] <nit-wit> Aeronius, did hyou get the thumb loadedand your work done
[10:27] <Aeronius> thevishy: http://docs.python.org/py3k/tutorial/index.html It's like an online Python manual/book, completely up to date
[10:27] <Aeronius> nit-wit: yes, and the md5 hash checked out
[10:28] <Aeronius> but I ran fsck just to be sure, and I don't know if the output is bad or not
[10:28] <nit-wit> Aeronius, cool it was hard to tell what was going on
[10:28] <Aeronius>  here's the output:  http://pastie.org/1327740
[10:28] <Aeronius> want to look at it, and opine?
[10:29] <nicofs> I need a good and simple editor with syntax highlighting (preferably including bash) for shell scripting... any suggestions?
[10:30] <void_pointer> vim
[10:30] <Silicone> hi to all... what i need to write else... rhythmbox-client --play.... what to write just to play a specified file... not just open rythmbox?
[10:30] <Aeronius> void_pointer:  he said simple
[10:30] <void_pointer> how is vim not simple?
[10:30] <thevishy> thanks Aeronius  will check that book
[10:30] <void_pointer> slight learning curve
[10:30] <Aeronius> nico, gedit is standard
[10:30] <void_pointer> is all
[10:31] <void_pointer> ah, I forgot I answered this in #ubuntu. Apologies
[10:33] <Aeronius> nit-wit: I figure it must be good if the md5's are all right, but I have these lingering doubts
[10:33] <Aeronius> and I'm really obsessive compulsive about some things...
[10:34] <void_pointer> On a side note, I've never met anyone who has learned to use vim and regretted it. Especially when you are adminning through SSH. Stallman out
[10:34] <nicofs> Let me rephrase... I need a good and simple GUI editor (not in terminal) with syntax highlighting (preferably including bash) for shell scripting... any suggestions? in Windows I used ConText...
[10:35] <Aeronius> void_pointer: cute
[10:36] <sara2010> hi
[10:36] <sara2010> any one help me
[10:36] <sara2010> i m using 9.4
[10:36] <sara2010> when i m going to configure network
[10:36] <sara2010> i m not able to add gateway ip
[10:37] <void_pointer> route add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xx
[10:37] <void_pointer> sorry, again I forgot this is GUI-land
[10:38] <sara2010> void_pointer  so what to do now ? u can not help me !
[10:38] <bilalakhtar> sara2010: juts a sec, I will help
[10:38] <sara2010> thanks
[10:39] <bilalakhtar> sara2010: Is it for a wired or wireless connection?
[10:39] <sara2010> wired
[10:39] <void_pointer> sara2010 I did. Open a console window and type "sudo add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx" where "xxx.xxx.xxx" is the IP of your gateway
[10:40] <void_pointer> if that works, you can then make the change persistant
[10:40] <bilalakhtar> sara2010: Click 'Edit connection' in the Network icon drop-down menu, then select 'Auto eth0' in the window and click Edit
[10:40] <Aeronius> nicofs: sorry, I thought gedit would have bash highlighting, Scite probably does, but it's probably not enabled by default
[10:40] <bilalakhtar> sara2010: after that, go to ipv4 settings and change the drop-down to Manual
[10:40] <bilalakhtar> then click add, enter settings then apply
[10:41] <void_pointer> or you could point and click like a windows refugee. It's up to you - 10 seconds or 2 minutes
[10:41] <Aeronius> VIM is the only one that comes up on the first two google pages, really, (and a notepad 2, but I don't know if it's linux compatible or how good it is)
[10:41] <void_pointer> nicofs out of interest, why not vim?
[10:41] <bilalakhtar> void_pointer: For Windows refugees, its best to tell the GUI way
[10:41] <sara2010> bilal i did that
[10:41] <void_pointer> you can use vim like a "GUI" editor
[10:41] <void_pointer> gvim
[10:42] <bilalakhtar> sara2010: But why doesn't it work then?
[10:42] <void_pointer> it has all the syntax highlighting you need
[10:42] <bilalakhtar> sara2010: please be a bit more specific about problems
[10:42] <sara2010> bilal
[10:42] <sara2010> i m giving gw ip
[10:43] <sara2010> when i m going to apply it become <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:44] <bilalakhtar> sara2010: Double click in the entry in that column to open the text field again
[10:45] <sara2010> bilal please tell me any command to enter gateway
[10:45] <sara2010> i have try alot gui
[10:46] <void_pointer> sara2010 I told you
[10:46] <void_pointer> you refused to listen
[10:46] <bilalakhtar> sara2010: listen to void_pointer then
[10:47] <sara2010> okay
[10:47] <sara2010> void_pointer
[10:47] <sara2010> i m listening you now
[10:47] <void_pointer> lol
[10:47] <sasori2501> hey all, anyone know how to get 10.10 + 1215n wireless to work??
[10:48] <void_pointer> sara2010 open a terminal window. Type "sudo route add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx" where xxx.xxx.xxx is the IP of your gateway
[10:48] <ElijahsFriend> 'God bless america'
[10:48] <void_pointer> sara2010 then type "sudo route"
[10:48] <ElijahsFriend> I hear this call in all circles. Military, Political, Financial and even Churches. But I say America bless God first. Make him proud to be an American then yes he will bless you as a nation. In your coming and in your going, in your dealings and in your negotiations yes I dare say even in your prosperity. But it is not a one way street. Should God reward us for our misdeeds, our greed and...
[10:49] <ElijahsFriend> ...our lack of mercy. We push our power around like a bully rather than a benefactor. I say let us show God what we want from him and not the other way around because we neither obey nor follow the lead we just goad that he favors us. Now let me show you when he blesses other nations so that you can see what you missed.  - Elijah
[10:49] <FloodBot4> ElijahsFriend: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:49] <sara2010> you means sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:49] <ElijahsFriend> bite me
[10:49] <void_pointer> sara2010 yes, if <IP_ADDRESS> is your gateway
[10:49] <r_a_f> ello
[10:49] <alex88> hi guys, i've this problem, my controller is not supported by actual kernel. i've a patch given me by the sata kernel developer that should work.. how can i compile a kernel and apply to a live cd to let me install it?
[10:50] <_raven_> firefox: "iced tea web browser plugin" installed but not available - what to do?
[10:52] <sara2010> also i want give
[10:52] <sara2010> ip
[10:52] <sara2010> and
[10:52] <Keshi> Hello. I am using Ubuntu 10.10 on a MacBook Pro 7.1 in single user mode. Thhhhhhhhhhhhhh8y7yyyyyyyyyy7777777777888888888888888888jiiiyyhnnb\]
[10:52] <sara2010> netmask
[10:52] <FloodBot4> sara2010: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:53] <nicofs> void_pointer: don't like doing things in a terminal...
[10:53] <Keshi> Sorry about that :).
[10:54] <void_pointer> nicofs yet you want to bash script ...
[10:54] <void_pointer> sara2010 then "sudo route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>"
[10:54] <tyrnis> irc.otaku-irc.fr
[10:54] <tyrnis> oups
[10:54] <nicofs> void_pointer: yep... do one script to never mess in a terminal again^^
[10:54] <void_pointer> nicofs anyway, like I said, you can use gvim
[10:55] <void_pointer> it'll save you from that nasty foundation of linux, the console
[10:55] <nicofs> void_pointer: installed gedit... it does highlight bash, so I'm happy...
[10:55] <serenity> hi
[10:55] <void_pointer> nicofs if you plan on using Linux in any depth and think you'll avoid the console, you might want to think again :)
[10:56] <sara2010> void_pointer  .. there is error came  no such device
[10:56] <serenity> i upgraded to 10.10. Before firefox was working fine. Now it says "Firefox is already running, but is not responding." But there is no process from firefox.
[10:56] <void_pointer> sara2010 well now we are getting somewhere
[10:56] <Keshi> Hello. The network card in my computer keeps on dropping in and out on Ubuntu 10.10 installed on a MacBook Pro 10.10.
[10:56] <Keshi> Any idea how to it?
[10:57] <void_pointer> sara2010 are you sure you typed the command exactly as i wrote it?
[10:57] <void_pointer> sara2010 including the "gw"?
[10:57] <nicofs> void_pointer: I don't want to completely avoid the console... but I use a graphical frontend on my linux. I just want to use that where possible...
[10:58] <sara2010> void_pointer  i m  sure ...  but before i  type without netmast
[10:58] <sara2010> that command work!
[10:58] <sara2010> now with netmask its not working
[10:58] <void_pointer> of course it did
[10:59] <void_pointer> sara2010 well, you can exclude the netmask
[10:59] <void_pointer> sara2010 or try a netmask of "<IP_ADDRESS>"
[10:59] <valer> how can i install apps on iphone using ubuntu?
[10:59] <valer>  /msg NickServ identify
[11:00] <Aeronius> nicofs: you're welcome!
[11:00] <void_pointer> Aeronius it's so distressing when they don't thank you, isn't it?
[11:00] <erUSUL> !iphone
[11:00] <void_pointer> Aeronius I'll thank you on his behalf
[11:00] <void_pointer> Aeronius thank you.
[11:03] <nicofs> Aeronius: sorry for not thanking... I needed to suddenly shift to the kitchen to prepare breakfast... that somehow distracted me...
[11:03] <Aeronius> lol, gee thank you, and thanks for Gnu too
[11:03] <sara2010> void_pointer ... its same no such device
[11:04] <Aeronius> nicofs: don't worry about it
[11:05] <tkmmc> nicofs：it's  the  morning?
[11:05] <void_pointer> sara2010 well, first, are you sure that's the IP of your gateway?
[11:06] <void_pointer> tkmmc if you ever have time you should look into how the earth rotates on its axis. It'll help you to understand how it can be morning in one place, and evening in another
[11:06] <void_pointer> radical, I know
[11:07] <deena> Hi
[11:07] <deena> need to install serious sam 11 in ubuntu 10.10
[11:07] <deena> any idea how to
[11:08] <erUSUL> !wine | deena
[11:08] <amanthakur> deena, use wine
[11:10] <sara2010> void_pointer .. yes i m sure ..  my server gateway ip is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:11] <sara2010> i m giving ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:11] <sara2010> netmask is 255.255.255
[11:11] <sara2010> netmask is <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:11] <sara2010> getway ping reply is working
[11:11] <snow_ru> is there  a bot here ?
[11:11] <snow_ru> !bot
[11:11] <snow_ru> hi ubottu how are you ?
[11:12] <snow_ru> guys,  is there any bot for Yahoo chat ?
[11:13] <Zol> What's the difference between a desktop environment and a window manager?
[11:13] <Gnea> snow_ru: not for ubuntu
[11:13] <amanthakur> sara2010, your ip is of class A so its netmask should be <IP_ADDRESS> not that one you have.
[11:13] <Matthew__> hi. http://pastebin.com/5KkM2B03 is there something wrong with the way I am setting the permissions pls?
[11:13] <Gnea> Zol: A window manager manages window attriutes, while a desktop manager handles desktop attriutes
[11:14] <paperchaser> anyone want to explain how i use/install a tar ball?
[11:14] <amanthakur> Zol, google that this channel is for troubleshooting problem not learning theories.
[11:14] <V1ntage> hey, I'm about to install a hosting server on Ubuntu (with varnish, memcache, etc) Is it actually recommended to use the 64bit version of the OS?
[11:14] <Merlin_> Does anyone know of a version of linux I can run on an old computer with only 256 RAM? Ubuntu doesnt seem to be working
[11:14] <L10n> paperchaser: have you used goodgle?
[11:14] <Gnea> amanthakur: we do some learning theory on a volunteer basis now and then.
[11:14] <Dr_Willis> Merlin_:  lubuntu, puppy linux, google for 'mini' disrtos perhaps.
[11:14] <erUSUL> paperchaser: a tar ball is alike a zip file. how to install it depends on what is inside it.
[11:14] <FishFace> Merlin_: Puppy Linux will be good
[11:14] <L10n> Merlin_: try debian
[11:15] <paperchaser> ha lion, i just figured that some one here would be smart enough
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Merlin_:  theres bodhi  that just came out. its a minimal ubuntu also.
[11:15] <amanthakur> paperchaser, untar tar balls. cd in to the folder then ./configure followed by make and make install
[11:15] <Dr_Willis> Merlin_:  i would say try Lubuntu first
[11:15] <L10n> paperchaser: im certain most of us are
[11:15] <Aeronius> V1ntage: yes, 64 is espcially recommended for server
[11:15] <L10n> amanthakur: that's probably a decent answer but wont help him...
[11:15] <paperchaser> thanks anathakur
[11:15] <sebastia> chan time
[11:15] <Merlin_> I already screwed up two discs trying to burn ubuntu
[11:15] <V1ntage> Aeronius: allright, thanks, just wanted to make sure (been using 32bit up till now)
[11:16] <erUSUL> Merlin_: puppy linux? dsl? slitaz ?
[11:16] <Berklib> hey everyone
[11:16] <Zol> Gnea: Thanks!
[11:16] <amanthakur> Gnea, hmm but thats not a one line theory...:P
[11:16] <paperchaser> hey lion thank im just a nube
[11:16] <Jordan_U> alex88: No USB flash drives?
[11:16] <Berklib> I have linux but this question isnt really linux related
[11:16] <Dr_Willis> Merlin_:   you could try 'tiny core linux' also.
[11:16] <Aeronius> V1ntage: they've also recently removed their warning away from the 64 desktop too
[11:16] <L10n> paperchaser: well you should man tar to not be a noob ;)
[11:16] <paperchaser> im trying
[11:16] <L10n> np
[11:16] <erUSUL> paperchaser: what are you trying to install ?
[11:17] <paperchaser> cgiproxy
[11:17] <Berklib> hey guys , I have linux but this question isnt really linux related
[11:17] <guampa> Dr_Willis: tinycore is too small, more for 16Mb (imho)
[11:17] <Jordan_U> !ot | Berklib
[11:17] <Gnea> amanthakur: where does it say it has to be? :P
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> guampa:  install what you want. :)
[11:17] <bonheurd> bj
[11:17] <guampa> oh thx! i will
[11:17] <V1ntage> Aeronius: oh, nice :) will check that later on
[11:17] <Merlin_> my computer is so messed up I cant even google things properly because of adware/malware etc. so annoying
[11:18] <amanthakur> paperchaser, well actually that depends on the type of tar balls also you have. Whether you have your tar compressed with bzip2 or gzip. accordingly you use the switches. Go for man pages of tar as L10n said.
[11:18] <gogeta> Merlin_: must be windows
[11:18] <Merlin_> yeah it is
[11:19] <Merlin_> I want to switch, it's an old machine I just want to keep it running until I can get a new computer
[11:19] <Aeronius> Merlin_: I found that imgburn worked really well for me when I was exiting Windows
[11:19] <Matthew__> yeah i'd suggest imgburn too
[11:19] <Tuplad> could anyone point me in the right direction about this ? I have Ubuntu and winxp. I'd like to use winxp through virtualbox on linux, how is that possible ?
[11:19] <void_pointer> er, why not get really radical and reinstall?
[11:19] <Merlin_> imgburn?
[11:19] <paperchaser> alright
[11:19] <Aeronius> And puppy Linux should work if you had XP on it
[11:19] <erUSUL> Tuplad: /join #vbox ?
[11:19] <Merlin_> cant reinstall windows cuz I dont have my disc anymore
[11:20] <Tuplad> erUSUL: :D thanks!
[11:20] <void_pointer> you better get busy installing ubuntu then
[11:20] <Merlin_> (its 320am here, where are all you people?)
[11:20] <V1ntage> hmm, don't want to talk against Ubuntu, but if you want lightweight and have a lot of time you can always try slackware or gentoo
[11:21] <L10n> Merlin_: seattle; you must be close
[11:21] <void_pointer> V1ntage he's a novice. He doesn't want slack or gentoo
[11:21] <Tuplad> V1ntage: lightweight yes, a lot of time: no
[11:21] <Aeronius> Tuplad: I do this, it's easy, install ubuntu, install VB OSE, The GUI is a piece of cake to use
[11:21] <Merlin_> Vancouver Canadian version
[11:21] <gogeta> Merlin_: you can alwyas try a linux live cd and a antivires for linux
[11:21] <V1ntage> void_pointer: Tuplad: good point :)
[11:21] <L10n> Merlin_: Go Nucks!?
[11:21] <void_pointer> :)
[11:21] <Aeronius> Merlin_: what version on windows do you run now?
[11:21] <Matthew__> won't xfce do for Merlin_ ? i ran it on a 128mb
[11:22] <void_pointer> windows ME?
[11:22] <Merlin_> Nucks!!!
[11:22] <L10n> :D
[11:22] <Merlin_> I run Windows XP
[11:22] <V1ntage> what about xubuntu these days?
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu has gotten very well done. and is lighter then xubuntu.
[11:22] <Aeronius> Merlin_: did you see what I said about puppy? and I understand xubuntu is just as big as ubuntu nowadays...
[11:22] <amanthakur> Tuplad, you can get a virtualbox from the repos in ubuntu. Or you can download the *.deb file from the www.virtualbox.org
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> Its not actually an official variant i think however.
[11:23] <Tuplad> Aeronius: can't figure it out
[11:23] <gogeta> Merlin_: using a av for linux is ment to clean out windows systems
[11:23] <Merlin_> I looked at puppy
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> Puppy linux - is a rather odd linux in many ways. :) it is good to get the work done however.
[11:23] <Aeronius> Tuplad: what can't you figure, where are you at?
[11:23] <Merlin_> gogeta? pardon?
[11:23] <Tuplad> Aeronius: I have VBox, but can't figure out how to start WinXP (which is already installed).
[11:23] <gogeta> Merlin_: you said your windows is infected
[11:23] <Merlin_> yeah it is
[11:24] <Merlin_> how does everyone type in red?
[11:24] <amanthakur> Tuplad, whats the big deal in starting a an OS which is already installed...:)
[11:24] <FishFace> If anyone has the Weather Report applet on their tool bar can you let me know what the original radar map link is?
[11:24] <Aeronius> Tuplad: you have two choices, 1) easy, long, but probably best: install a fresh version of windows on a virtual drive
[11:24] <gogeta> Merlin_: you have limited ram?
[11:25] <Jordan_U> If you use someon's nickname in your message it shows up highlighted in their client. Merlin_
[11:25] <Tuplad> amanthakur: too lazy(?) to reboot each time I want to check movies on my xbox...
[11:25] <Merlin_> I have 256 RAM
[11:25] <FishFace> OH wait....its regional. Never mind. Or NYC area if you have it.
[11:25] <Tuplad> amanthakur: need to run TVersity so that my xbox can see the server
[11:25] <alex88> Jordan_U, yes i have
[11:25] <Tuplad> Aeronius: they just told me at the #vbox channel that it's not advised to do that, http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows I guess I'll just reboot <_<
[11:25] <Merlin_> honestly I just want a fresh install of something so I can just go back to basics
[11:25] <alex88> oh..so with saved data i can change kernel
[11:25] <amanthakur> Tuplad, i m talking about the installed machine in vbox not dual boot....:)
[11:25] <Aeronius> 2) use some kind of utility to ghost your installed partition into a virtual drive and run that
[11:26] <JusticeZero> Hi, can someone help me troubleshoot a router?
[11:26] <alex88> Jordan_U, then with chroot also to installed machine right?
[11:26] <Jordan_U> alex88: Yes.
[11:26] <Aeronius> is 2) what you were advised against?
[11:26] <amanthakur> Tuplad, you said you have installed winXP in vbox
[11:26] <gogeta> Merlin_: http://www.avg.com/ie-en/avg-rescue-cd
[11:26] <alex88> Jordan_U, thank you very much )L:
[11:26] <guampa> Tuplad: it can be done, you create a virtal disk from an existing partition that's all
[11:26] <Merlin_> my AVG isnt even working right
[11:26] <Jordan_U> alex88: You're welcome.
[11:26] <sebastia> wat is diferences of latest version Ubuntu on Jaunty
[11:26] <JusticeZero> It works, but sluggishly and intermittently (as in it gives a lot of 'can't connect to server' on firefox in bursts)
[11:26] <Aeronius> Tuplad: it's a bad idea to use an existing partition
[11:26] <Tuplad> amanthakur: I didn't say that, I said winxp is already installed and I'd like to run it through winxp
[11:27] <gogeta> Merlin_: or you can use a live cd or instaled linux system to install avg
[11:27] <amanthakur> JusticeZero, whats the problem
[11:27] <Tuplad> Aeronius: ghosting sounds nice.
[11:27] <gogeta> Merlin_: and scan the windows systemm
[11:27] <guampa> Aeronius: explain why if you will, i haven't had any probs
[11:27] <Tuplad> amanthakur: run it through vbox I mean
[11:27] <JusticeZero> I have internet.. but it's slow, and web surfing gives a lot of "Can't find server" errors.
[11:27] <Tuplad> Aeronius: they advised me against using an existing partition
[11:27] <V1ntage> Merlin_: whatever you do, if you haven't planned or done it already, backup your hard disk before installing a new OS
[11:28] <Aeronius> guampa: I'm talking from my own experience, an older version of Windows has a lot of installs and uninstalls clogging up the registry, and the possibility of malware
[11:28] <JusticeZero> Connecting direct to modem solves it instantly (but we have several computers so that isn't a solution)
[11:28] <Yautja_Cetanu> Could anyone help me with Remote Desktop Preferences? It says computers are only reachable to me using localhost rather then my IP address?
[11:28] <amanthakur> Tuplad, what you actually wanna do? Do you want to install linux in vbox? or vice-versa?
[11:28] <guampa> Aeronius: so? it runs as guest, no interaction with the host or other guests unless you provide it
[11:28] <Merlin_> everything I need has been backed up for a month
[11:28] <Atlantic777> Hi! I've got some problems with gnome panels. I had 3 panels, one up and 2 bottom. I set autohide on the upper one of the bottoms and gnome stucked. I can't even click or something... I've tried to delete ~/.nautilus folder and restart X, but didn't help. What to try next?
[11:28] <Aeronius> Tuplad: so you get a fresh install, you use linux primarily, so you aren't as exposed to malware
[11:28] <JusticeZero> Resetting the router seems to help somewhat for a bit, we think? but that could be a perception thing.
[11:29] <gogeta> Merlin_: then you can just format the system remove any sort of infection heh
[11:29] <Aeronius> Tuplad: and you use Windows in high performance mode without needing antiviruses and stuff like that clogging up your resources
[11:29] <Aeronius> just for what you need it to do
[11:29] <Merlin_> gogeta, thats the problem, I cant get a sytem that will run
[11:29] <erUSUL> !resetpanels | Atlantic777
[11:29] <Tuplad> amanthakur: at this moment, I always dual boot. I either choose ubuntu or windows. Windows is for running adobe software and sharing movies for my xbox. I'd like to be able to start windows without rebooting. So the same partition that is on my hdd now, I would like to run!
[11:29] <gogeta> Merlin_: linux cd?
[11:29] <Merlin_> I have tried Ubuntu a bunch of times that doesnt work
[11:29] <amanthakur> JusticeZero, do you get constant replies when you ping your router?
[11:30] <JusticeZero> How would I check?
[11:30] <gogeta> Merlin_: that avg link i gave you is a ive cd
[11:30] <Tuplad> Aeronius: good thinking... guess I'll have to reinstall it again then ;(
[11:30] <Merlin_> ok I will check
[11:30] <Aeronius> Tuplad: good luck, it's for the best really
[11:30] <guampa> haha unbelievable
[11:30] <gogeta> Merlin_: at 256mb the ubuntu live cd works but ir crawls
[11:30] <Yautja_Cetanu> Can someone help me with remote desktop?
[11:31] <gogeta> Merlin_: you probly thought it was locked up
[11:31] <Aeronius> If you have 256 MB, use Puppy
[11:31] <L10n> JusticeZero: use the ping command
[11:31] <gogeta> Yautja_Cetanu: yea team viewer nice and simple works threw firewalls
[11:31] <Aeronius> or DSL
[11:31] <JusticeZero> I have the terminal up, but not familiar with ping or networks enough to know the syntax.
[11:32] <amanthakur> JusticeZero, ping your router. and notice time
[11:32] <Merlin_> what crawls? Ubuntu seemed totally locked up
[11:32] <Aeronius> I preferred puppy
[11:32] <spizti> Hi. Tried adding this repository -- https://launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive/ppa -- but I get a "404 Not found" when trying to load it. Should it work ?
[11:32] <Yautja_Cetanu> gogeta: I think I had it working but I selected "configure network to automatically accept connections" and now it doesn't work
[11:32] <gogeta> Merlin_: yea 256mb xubuntu and lubuntu works on that ammount of ram
[11:32] <L10n> man ping JusticeZero
[11:32] <L10n> or just type ping [ipaddress]
[11:32] <V1ntage> brb
[11:32] <Tuplad> Aeronius: thanks!
[11:32] <Aeronius> gogeta: that's what I said
[11:32] <amanthakur> JusticeZero, ping <IP_ADDRESS> in case your router ip is this one
[11:32] <Merlin_> geez now I have to learn how to down install something else
[11:32] <gogeta> Yautja_Cetanu: http://www.teamviewer.com/index.aspx
[11:33] <Aeronius> Tuplad: you're welcome, glad to be of service
[11:33] <Merlin_> at least I know how to get around my BIOS really fast
[11:33] <gogeta> Yautja_Cetanu: nice being its totaly cross platform
[11:33] <L10n> JusticeZero: i'm not sure how useful the data will be from ping for you.
[11:33] <Yautja_Cetanu> gogeta: ok its sorted
[11:33] <JusticeZero> Ranges from .630ms to almost .900 ms
[11:34] <gogeta> Yautja_Cetanu: thers a relly good nativ linux vnc that so fast it works in real time but i forgot the name
[11:35] <JusticeZero> yeah I don't know. It feels like the router is constipated or something in a way. *shrug*
[11:35] <gogeta> Merlin_: heh
[11:36] <blaze1024> Merlin: If your computer will boot from a flashdrive you could try Unetbooten to make a bootable flashdrive it will automaticy downlaod many distros
[11:36] <amanthakur> JusticeZero, it seems that locally your connection is fine. There may be the problems with the externel wirings or your DNS.
[11:36] <L10n> try a different router; also try upgrade the firmware
[11:36] <Merlin_> I have no flashdrive
[11:36] <gogeta> Merlin_: well if your gonna whipe all data
[11:36] <Merlin_> and I am running out of CDs
[11:36] <JusticeZero> What would be the next tests?
[11:36] <Merlin_> hmm?
[11:36] <gogeta> Merlin_: use a rw
[11:36] <Merlin_> i dont have one at the moment
[11:37] <Merlin_> I can probably get one tomorrow though
[11:37] <JusticeZero> As mentioned, if the router is taken out and computer connected direct to modem, the internet runs perfectly and blazingly fast.
[11:37] <Merlin_> I have kind of gave up for today I just need a new plan for tomorrow
[11:37] <amanthakur> JusticeZero, next test would be pinging your DNS.
[11:37] <Merlin_> hey Happy US Turkey Day to some of you
[11:37] <gogeta> Merlin_: you need a distro that will install?
[11:37] <Merlin_> yes
[11:37] <gogeta> Merlin_: are they starting up?
[11:37] <JusticeZero> How do I find that?
[11:38] <amanthakur> JusticeZero, tell me your network setup
[11:38] <gogeta> Merlin_: ot at least trying
[11:38] <gogeta> or