[09:00] <_PanzerSajt> Hy! I have a omap4460 based tablet dual booting Ubuntu 12.04 and Android 4.0. It has a 10 point multitouch screen, but I wasn't able to get it working under ubuntu. With android it is just working fine.
[09:11] <_PanzerSajt> Here is the output from mtdev-test while touching with 5 fingers: paste.ubuntu.com/1194283/
[10:30] <yorick> I'm trying to get synaptics gestures working on arch linux
[10:31] <yorick> http://sprunge.us/KRdP is what geistest says
[10:31] <yorick> I don't think it's recognizing anything? should I install a different xorg server?
[16:46] <cnd> yorick: the current gesture stack is built on top of X.org XInput 2.2, which has resulted in some changes to how gestures may be used and tested
[16:46] <cnd> I suggest using geisview to see if you get any gestures
[16:46] <cnd> however, if your trackpad is one of the many that can only report two locations, you won't get any gestures out of utouch
[16:47] <cnd> you can find out if you have a multitouch trackpad by using xinput --list --long
[16:47] <cnd> then find your trackpad and look for an entry for a XITouchClass
[21:43] <WebVisitor-6> buenas
[21:51] <WebVisitor-6> pack need runs utouch?


[06:13] <RedSingularity> micahg:  Received an attachment to a bug.  A log file.  Its in another language though.  Any wiki pages with info on what to do in this case?
[06:14] <RedSingularity> micahg:  Seems to be Spanish
[06:15] <micahg> RedSingularity: well, foreign language bugs are generally convert to question, but this doesn't seem to fit since it's the log file, what bug, maybe I can help
[06:15] <RedSingularity> micahg:  bug 696654
[06:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 696654 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "error to upgrade kubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696654
[06:18] <micahg> RedSingularity: which file?
[06:18] <RedSingularity> micahg:  main
[06:19] <RedSingularity> micahg:  under the ERROR string
[06:19] <micahg> RedSingularity: I use google translate for these things usually
[06:20] <micahg> RedSingularity: you don't have to remove the apport tags when adding
[06:21] <RedSingularity> micahg:  You mean the originals?
[06:21] <micahg> RedSingularity: yes
[06:22] <RedSingularity> micahg:  Ok.  One more thing.  This user seems to have fixed the "bug" on his own.  Should i continue to get information or close it up?  bug 697476 in question
[06:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 697476 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to Kubuntu 10.04 failed - could not install upgrades (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/697476
[06:26] <micahg> RedSingularity: if you think other people might have the problem, then you can try to figure it out, otherwise close it, it seems that the person got the computer in a bad state, so it's gone through multiple bad dist upgrades
[06:27] <RedSingularity> micahg:  My thoughts exactly.
[06:29] <Takyoji> Friend has laptop with XP and Ubuntu 10.10; USB worked fine on both in the past. But recently (within the past few months) stops working in Ubuntu after booting XP. The only way to make it work again, was apparently booting an older version of Linux, which just magically worked, and which made it work under the most recent kernel as well again. Would this be a bug worth reporting; and/or any method of proper debugging?
[06:33] <Takyoji> When any USB device would be connected; the only entry in dmesg appended was: [  120.284050] usb 1-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
[06:33] <Takyoji> and nothing else
[06:35] <Takyoji> http://paste.ubuntu.com/551398/
[11:34] <^arky^> Hi, How solve this error "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lz"
[15:24] <hjd> Hi. Should bug 699833 fix itself now that bug 696675 is fixed, so that I can go ahead and mark it as a duplicate?
[15:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 699833 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "Lucid: KDE 4.4.5 update lead to inconsistent system (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/699833
[15:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 696675 in kde-l10n-engb (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "kde l10n packages depend on libkdecore5 which doesn't exist (affects: 15) (dups: 3) (heat: 82)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696675
[17:56]  * ElPasmo thinks bug 699899 should be set Triaged and Wishlist, can someone do it for him?
[17:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 699899 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Have left click bring focus to the player and allow for right click to copy the track information to the clipboard (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/699899
[17:59] <charlie-tca> ElPasmo: done
[17:59] <charlie-tca> Thanks for helping so much
[17:59] <ElPasmo> Thanks to you charlie-tca :)
[18:01]  * ElPasmo is not very sure how to proceed with bug 699897. They are asking for a sync that is already in Debian Experimental. Should he make an Upstream sync request or set this bug as Fix commited?
[18:02] <ElPasmo> link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxml++2.6/+bug/699897
[18:03] <charlie-tca> It is a packaging bug. We don't do anything with it
[18:04] <ElPasmo> should it stay New?
[18:04] <ElPasmo> ok
[18:04] <ElPasmo> weird but ok :)
[18:04] <charlie-tca> yup
[18:04] <ElPasmo> thanks!+
[18:04] <charlie-tca> We leave sync and merge bugs alone
[18:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 699897 in libxml++2.6 (Ubuntu) "Packaging request for libxml++ 2.33.1 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/699897
[18:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 699897 in libxml++2.6 (Ubuntu) "Packaging request for libxml++ 2.33.1 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[18:05] <charlie-tca> ElPasmo: like this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Developer%20Process%20Bugs
[18:08] <ElPasmo> I see, thanks for the explanation charlie-tca :)
[18:08] <charlie-tca> sometimes it helps :-)
[18:10] <Bipul`> Tell me one things if there are some packages not found in 10.10 repositories
[18:10] <Bipul`> then it shud consider to be bug?
[18:15] <AbhiJit> no
[18:46] <micahg> bdmurray: did my gnome-python-extras fix, fix pytrainer?
[22:33] <beachwood23> hi guys! I'm looking to start helping out with bugs and stuff, and i've set up testdrive, and all the beginning things. where would be a good place to start out, and who should i talk to?


[17:23] <gholms> smoser: Is cloud-init start-local supposed to fail on EC2?
[17:24] <smoser> you want it to exit success
[17:24] <gholms> Hmm...
[17:24] <smoser> i thoguth there was  bug on that.
[17:24] <gholms> I'm looking at the new comment on bug 861943.
[17:24] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 861943 in cloud-init "Add systemd support" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/861943
[17:25] <gholms> I suspect I'm doing something wrong, but I'm not sure what.
[17:26] <smoser> gholms,  it does exit false if it fonds nothing.
[17:26] <smoser> it probably shoudl exit success.
[17:27] <gholms> Sounds like that should be a separate bug, then.
[17:27] <gholms> cloud-init start should later find the EC2 source and make everything work, right?
[17:48] <smoser> gholms, no.
[17:49] <smoser> cloud-init-local should start earlier and find nothing
[17:49] <smoser> cloud-init should then come and find a metadata service from the network
[17:49] <smoser> cloud-init would be bettter named cloud-init-net
[17:52] <gholms> I was under the impression that start-local was just supposed to clean up the cache after previous runs.  Why is it looking for a data source?
[17:54]  * gholms goes through the code again
[17:59] <smoser> gholms, because there are local data sources
[18:00] <smoser> (DataSourceNoCloud)
[18:00] <smoser> and i just added one for openstack "ConfigDrive" yesterday.
[18:02] <gholms> Sure, but can't those be done during start, not start-local?
[18:03] <smoser> gholms, well they run earlier.
[18:03] <smoser> they don't depend on network.
[18:04] <smoser> so they can influence more of boot.
[18:04] <smoser> the configdrive one can write /etc/network/interfaces
[18:04] <gholms> Ah, that's why.
[18:04] <gholms> So should start-local *and* start exit successfully if there is no data source, or just start-local?
[18:05] <smoser> i really can't htink of a good reason to not make them exit 0 on non-failure but no datasource found.
[18:05] <smoser> initially, i'm sure i considered it failure if there was no data source
[18:05] <smoser> i'm opne to input here.
[18:06] <gholms> start-local certainly shouldn't fail due to that.
[18:06] <gholms> I could go either way with start.
[18:08] <gholms> Both use the same code path at that point, right?  It would probably be easier to just change them both.
[18:18] <smoser> yeah, the exit is the same place.
[18:22] <gholms> worksforme
[18:25] <smoser> i just pushed that change.
[18:25] <gholms> Thanks
[18:32] <gholms> So... as long as you're here... :)
[18:32] <gholms> util.runparts runs ``run-parts --regex .* foo''.
[18:33] <gholms> Can we kill off the "--regex .*"?
[18:33] <gholms> Fedora's run-parts script is somewhat braindead.
[18:35] <gholms> I suppose I should just file a bug.
[19:52] <ganimede> hello. Is there a way/program to run a partition in a virtual machine, please?
[20:10] <smoser> gholms, sorry... regarding regex..
[20:10] <smoser> i tihnk i needed that for some reason.
[20:10] <smoser> and there is a bug.
[20:12] <smoser> by default, run-parts skips some files. man page says
[20:13] <smoser>  ames must consist entirely of ASCII upper- and lower-case letters, ASCII digits, ASCII underscores, and ASCII minus-hyphens.
[20:13] <smoser> which would seem sufficient, but i sweare i did this for a reason
[20:17] <smoser> gholms, yeah.. if i search through logs i find
[20:17] <smoser> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~cloud-init-dev/cloud-init/trunk/revision/99
[22:02] <gholms> Ouch.
[22:13] <gholms> smoser: Would a condition of some kind make sense or would you rather I carry a patch?
[22:14] <smoser> if you can think of a way to do some condition, i'll take that patch for sure.
[22:16] <gholms> I guess one test could simply be seeing if the file starts with #!/bin/bash.
[22:17] <gholms> The Debian one is a compiled executable.
[22:17] <smoser> yuck, thogh.
[22:17] <gholms> Yup
[22:17] <smoser> my othe rscary thought was to just implement run-parts in python
[22:18] <smoser> but i'm almost certain i'll do it incorrectly in some sense
[22:18] <smoser> at least at first.
[22:18] <gholms> "for file in sorted(os.listdir(dirp)): subprocess.check_call([file])" ?
[22:19] <gholms> Since the goal is to run *everything* and all
[22:19] <gholms> But yeah, there are bound to be corner cases.


[03:28] <seyacat_> hi bugmen
[04:39] <marlow79> is this ubuntu bugs?
[05:09] <bcurtiswx> hey someone really did change the channel name........ oh.... darn
[08:21] <Toobaz1> Hello. Bug #130055 (possibly) was a wishlist, now it is certainly not, since it breaks apt-get. May I ask to change its "Importance" or do you (e.g. persia) suggest to open another?
[08:21] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 130055 in audio-convert "Nautilus audio convert script doesn't activate itself" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130055
[12:28] <aboSamoor> I added the david suggested repo to get the modified nautilus, the installed nautilus is [1:2.27.4-0ubuntu3~oloc2] but there is no change ?!
[13:01] <gnomefreak> what is the apport-collect command to add apport info to a filed bug?
[13:02] <seb128> gnomefreak, try man apport-collect?
[13:02] <gnomefreak> seb128: thanks.
[13:03] <seb128> you're welcome
[13:06] <gnomefreak> seb128: not very helpful. it doesnt say anything on how to use it with bug format
[13:06] <seb128> gnomefreak, "apport-collect BUGNUMBER"
[13:06] <seb128> it's written in the synopsys...
[13:06] <gnomefreak> seb128: sorry missed that part when i scrolled up
[13:07] <seb128> it seems very obvious to me
[13:07] <seb128> what did you try?
[13:07] <seb128> $ apport-collect
[13:07] <seb128> Usage: apport-collect [options] <Launchpad bug number>
[13:07] <gnomefreak> seb128: i didnt but i wasnt sure if the word "bug" should be used
[13:07] <seb128> gnomefreak, you didn't really try hard did you?
[13:07] <gnomefreak> seb128: its not for me i replying to a bug
[13:07] <seb128> oh ok
[14:59] <bddebian> Boo
[16:55] <bdmurray> mvo: I noticed that /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt-term.log is continuing to be logged to after I completed my dist-upgrade.  Is that by design?
[17:00] <Kamusin> how can I watch normal report from one  that was marked as onehundrerpapercut idea
[17:01] <hggdh> Kamusin, you mean be alerted on updates to the bug?
[17:02] <Kamusin> I need see normal view report because was marked as onehundrerpapercut and don't have same options for example to submit upstream
[17:03] <bdmurray> Kamusin: what url are you at?
[17:04] <bdmurray> the url indicates the context you are viewing the bug report in
[17:04] <Kamusin> bdmurray, https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/389852
[17:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 389852 in nautilus "Choosing emblems in Nautilus is too complex" [Wishlist,New]
[17:04] <pedro_> Kamusin, put something like bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/number
[17:04] <bdmurray> right so you are viewing it in the hundredpapercuts context
[17:04] <bdmurray> and what pedro_ said will fix it for you
[17:05] <Kamusin> yep I known , thanks pedro_ , that was :)
[17:05] <pedro_> Kamusin, you're welcome
[17:05] <bdmurray> afaik there is no way to switch contexts other than mangling the url
[17:08] <Kamusin> I wish LP had some button or something more easy ( to remember thinks like that hehe)
[17:16] <mvo> bdmurray: no, what does the log contain?
[17:16] <mvo> bdmurray: /var/log/apt/term.log should be the one
[17:19] <bdmurray> mvo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/236865/
[17:19] <mvo> bdmurray: was that from a partial upgrade maybe?
[17:19] <bdmurray> mvo: I believe the dist-upgrade was on the 15th and there is stuff later on the 22nd
[17:20] <bdmurray> mvo: possibly I have a partial upgrade available right now so could confirm
[17:42] <bdmurray> mvo: so that is supposed to happen for partial upgrades?
[17:45] <mvo> bdmurray: well, not really :) its more a side-effect, I will fix it to write to apt/term.log
[17:45] <bdmurray> mvo: cool, thanks!  shall I report a bug about it?
[17:46] <mvo> bdmurray: yeah, please target it for alpha-4 and assign me
[18:02] <kklimonda> charles_, ping, any idea how to proceed with bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/406486 ?
[18:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 406486 in transmission "transmission: too many open files" [Low,Incomplete]
[18:03]  * charles_ reads #406486
[18:09] <charles_> kklimonda: it doesn't look like there are that many open actual files
[18:09] <charles_> kklimonda: unless sockets are counted in the ulimit?
[18:10] <kklimonda> charles_, I think they may be but it's still only about ~200 files
[18:10] <charles_> kklimonda: even then, "wc lsof.transmission" is only 232 lines...
[18:10] <charles_> yeah
[18:22] <nhasian> did you guys leave any bugs for me to fix?
[18:27] <AaronT125> hello
[19:16] <sailingboarder> yo, i've got some free time, wouldn't mind helping out
[19:17] <sailingboarder> never done a hug day before, so i don't really know what i should do
[19:22] <charles_> kklimonda: I don't know what to thinka bout 406486
[19:24] <nhasian> charles_, the bug about transmission?
[19:24] <charles_> right, the "too many open files" ticket
[19:29] <chrisccoulson> bug 406486
[19:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 406486 in transmission "transmission: too many open files" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406486
[20:07] <AaronT125> i'm new to the bugsquad, i'm having a hard time determining what to do with : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/406979. Could someone please assist me
[20:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 406979 in gnome-settings-daemon "No desktop background" [Undecided,New]
[20:09] <hggdh> AaronT125, only thing that would help if to find out what version of Ubuntu, and of g-s-d
[20:10] <hggdh> s/only/one/  #sorry
[20:10] <AaronT125> hggdh: they are running ubuntu 9.10, i have tried to recreate the bug, with no luck.
[20:11] <hggdh> ok. The assertion failure is not necessarily important
[20:11] <AaronT125> ok
[20:12] <hggdh> and we still need to find the version of the g-s-d
[20:12] <AaronT125> could you give me an example, of the G-s-d
[20:13] <AaronT125> sorry, im very new to this
[20:15] <AaronT125> oh, gnome-settings-daemon, right gottcha
[20:15] <hggdh> you can run 'dpkg -l gnome-settings-daemon'
[20:15] <AaronT125> thanks
[20:16] <hggdh> hum. I just changed my background wallpaper here, adding two jpegs. One was added OK, the other no
[20:17] <AaronT125> if i can't recreate the problem or confirm it, should i close the bug, due to lack of information,
[20:18] <hggdh> AaronT125, *NO* the fact that you cannot reproduce does not mean the bug does not exist. Are you running Karmic?
[20:19] <AaronT125> i am running Karmic now in a virtual machine, i have tried many Gconf edits, to the gnome-settings-daemon , but cannot recreate
[20:20] <hggdh> add a comment you cannot reproduce. We may be missing some other setting
[20:21] <AaronT125> ok thank you
[20:21] <hggdh> (I am changing the background by going to System/Preferences/Appearance/Background)
[20:22] <AaronT125> should i put what i did in the comment
[20:23] <AaronT125> such as = I am changing the background by going to System/Preferences/Appearance/Background
[20:25] <AaronT125> ill put unconfirmed for now, and leave somebody else who can reproduce the problem to file the bug upstream
[20:29] <AaronT125> thanks for helping me
[20:31] <hggdh> AaronT125, you are welcome. Thank YOU for helping us
[20:31] <AaronT125> :)
[20:31] <yofel> hm, there's a gconf key named /desktop/gnome/background/draw_background maybe that got unset for him somehow?
[20:32] <AaronT125> yofel: I tried that on karmic, but was unable to get the same error
[20:35] <Kamusin> what happen with new reports that have been publish like ubuntu brainstorm ideas? there is some defined response to this ?
[20:36] <yofel> Kamusin: I think that should be handled with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#An%20idea%20to%20improve%20Ubuntu Note the Note ;)
[20:38] <Kamusin> yofel, somebody has submited to bugzilla long time ago a report for this too and  problem is still present
[20:39] <yofel> Kamusin: bug number?
[20:40] <Kamusin> yofel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/390713
[20:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 390713 in nautilus "nautilus change date while copy" [Low,Incomplete]
[20:41] <Kamusin> yofel, bugzilla #515777 and brainstorm #8993
[20:52] <yofel> Kamusin: can you add a bugwatch for the bugzilla bug to the lp bug? That should close it then.
[21:15] <mahfouz> didn't Kamusin say the problem is still present?
[21:16] <yofel> mahfouz: you're right, I'm reading throught the upstream bug right now, seems to be a quite complex issue
[21:20] <yofel> ok, the original issue was that in glib mtime wasn't preserved, that was fixed, but many gvfs backends (including sftp) don't support the fix. That was then discussed in another upstream bug that was forgotten it seems (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527339)
[21:20] <ubot4> Gnome bug 527339 in general "gvfs should set file attributes properly" [Normal,Unconfirmed]
[21:23] <yofel> Kamusin: my final opinion: I would change the bug from nautilus to gvfs since the bug description says its a sftp issue and add a bug watch to the upstream gvfs bug
[21:30] <Kamusin> that sounds more logical :)
[21:44] <BUGabundo> hey . gonna get my self a Android G2 tonight!
[21:45] <kklimonda> why not G1?
[21:45] <BUGabundo> G2 is better, newer?
[21:45] <BUGabundo> and *available* here
[21:46] <kklimonda> it looks nicer but it has the same hardware that g1 afair
[21:46] <kklimonda> except lack of hardware keyboard
[21:53] <BUGabundo> im off.
[22:14] <shane__> can anyone help me get started with bugs
[22:16] <yofel> shane__: did you already read yourself through the knowledge base?
[22:19] <shane__> yes
[22:19] <shane__> I cant seem to figure out exactly what I have to do with the bugs
[22:19] <shane__> all the docs do is tell youw what needs to be done but not how to do it
[22:19] <shane__> so if i pick a bug from the new bugs list then what
[22:28] <shane__> isnt there a meeting tonight?
[22:30] <Adila01> What should I do for bugs that request an updated version of a program that have been assigned to any package?
[22:31] <Adila01> that have not been assigned*
[22:36] <bdmurray> Adila01: Do you have an example?
[22:36] <Adila01> Like this bug
[22:36] <bdmurray> shane__: If you have an example bug I'd be happy to go through it with you
[22:36] <Adila01> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/406602
[22:36] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 406602 in ubuntu "Please update VLC to version 1.0.1" [Undecided,New]
[22:37] <Adila01> It seem logical to assign it to VLC, but is that the correct way to go about assigning a package to this bug?
[22:37] <bdmurray> Adila01: yes it is
[22:37] <Adila01> Ok, thank you so much for your aid
[22:39] <bdmurray> It seems like there are 2 separate issues, the first is a request for an updated version of a package and the then these other people are commenting about some security vulnerability
[22:41] <Adila01> bdmurray: What should I do if there is a request for an undated version.
[22:41] <Adila01> bdmurray: Say this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/406628
[22:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 406628 in ubuntu "Upgrade automake to 1.11" [Undecided,New]
[22:41] <shane__> can anyone point me to the documenattion that will tell me exactly how to work with bug reports
[22:41] <Adila01> shane_: I believe this is the official site
[22:41] <Adila01> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase
[22:42] <bdmurray> Adila01: well, you can help out by moving that bug to the right package
[22:43] <bdmurray> Adila01: you can also check and see if it isn't already available
[22:43] <Adila01> bdmurray: I see
[22:47] <shane__> what determines whether or not a bug report is incomplete
[22:48] <bdmurray> shane__: the bug report itself combined with the package the bug is about.  Incomplete indicates there isn't enough information to begin working on the bug.
[23:13] <Adila01> bdmurray: I have a another question that I hope you may help me with. For this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/406628 , I am unable to assign the bug to the automake1.11 package because it hasn't been published in Ubuntu yet (automake 1.11 isn't in karmic thus a true bug). Should I assign this bug to the latest version of that program which has been already published in Ubuntu? Thanks for helping.
[23:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 406628 in ubuntu "Upgrade automake to 1.11" [Undecided,New]
[23:13] <bdmurray> Adila01: Isn't automake the package and 1.11 the version?
[23:14] <Adila01> bdmurray: Yes
[23:15] <bdmurray> so it should be assigned to the automake package then right?
[23:16] <Adila01> bdmurray: Ok, I understand, so I shouldn't apply this bug directly to that particular package version but to the overall package as a whole.
[23:17] <bdmurray> Adila01: right bugs have package tasks not package version tasks
[23:19] <Adila01> bdmurray: Ok, I understand now, just out of curiosity, when would it be necessary to assign a particular bug to a package version. Would it be for bugs that only affect a particular version say a bug in Virtualbox 2.0 but not Virtualbox 3.0?
[23:23] <bdmurray> Adila01: launchpad keeps track of package names so if for some reason the package name changed from virtualbox-2 to virtualbox-3 then you would otherwise you wouldn't.
[23:23] <bdmurray> Adila01: a good example of that is with firefox, we have firefox, firefox-3.0 and firefox-3.5
[23:24] <bdmurray> Adila01: generally though the version number is not included in the package name.  Does that help?
[23:29] <Adila01> bdmurray: I have reread your statements multiple times however I am still confused.
[23:32] <Adila01> bdmurray: I think I understand what you are proclaiming. You state that if there are multiple versions of firefox included in the repositories in which a bug only affects one of those packages then you would assign the bug to that particular package version.
[23:34] <bdmurray> Adila01: lets take your virtualbox example if you use the command 'rmadison virtualbox-ose' you'll see that we have multiple different version numbers for different releases.  However, all of these bugs are kept under the virtualbox-ose package
[23:37] <Adila01> bdmurray: So if all bugs are kept under virtualbox-ose, thus we would never have a need to apply a particular bug to a package version but just to the overall package. My apologies for having difficulty with this matter.
[23:38] <bdmurray> Adila01: right launchpad bugs doesn't keep track of package versions however they should show up in the bug's description
[23:41] <Adila01> bdmurray: I understand now, my mistake was that I assumed assigning bugs to a particular package version was a legitimate course of action due to it showing up in the Launchpad package search feature. Thank you for clearing up my errors.
[23:41] <bdmurray> Adila01: where did this show up?
[23:50] <Adila01> bdmurray: I am sorry for the delayed response, I am trying to find a good example. Give me one second.
[23:53] <bdmurray> No problem
[23:56] <Adila01> bdmurray: For example say if I was trying to choose a package to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/406628 and I click on the down arrow under Mark as duplicate and then clicked on choose. You will see not only will there be automake but, also, automake1.10, automake1.11 and so on. Do you see?
[23:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 406628 in automake "Upgrade automake to 1.11" [Undecided,New]
[23:57] <Adila01> Do you see it*
[23:59] <Adila01> bdmurray: I often use that choose feature as a search engine for a package that I am trying to find. So far it has helped me quite a bit in finding the correct packages.


[02:43] <studio-user630> ups does something work ? (I'm new here)
[02:44] <studio-user630> yes - I see something
[02:45] <studio-user630> can anyone answer ?
[02:47] <studio-user630>   H  A  L  L  O  ! ! !
[02:49] <studio-user630> H A L L O - can anyone say something
[02:49] <FloatingGoat> kallah halla
[02:49] <studio-user630> ok - first answer on my system
[02:49] <studio-user630> thanks !!!
[02:50] <len-1304> studio-user630, most of us are doing "family time".
[02:51] <len-1304> We just look at the screen the odd time. (or not)
[02:53] <FloatingGoat> yes
[02:53] <FloatingGoat> espectially me
[03:04] <FloatingGoat> JUST LEAVE!
[03:09] <user630> well i am new / back again user630 - ubuntu rebooted automatic ...
[03:12] <len-1304> I didn't know that happened after install...
[03:16] <user630> well on my mashine !?! - now i'll try to get some updates ...
[03:22] <LumpOfCoal> heyas
[03:22] <FloatingGoat> hey lumpy
[03:23] <user630> hay lumpy
[03:23] <LumpOfCoal> how goes it tonight?
[03:23] <user630> trying to install ubuntu un USB-Stick ...
[03:24] <LumpOfCoal> i have never installed it on at thumbdrive but have installed it from a thumb drive
[03:24] <FloatingGoat> im just doin what i gotta do
[03:25] <FloatingGoat> saying what i gotta say
[03:25] <FloatingGoat> did i say anything stupid today?
[03:26] <LumpOfCoal> i dunno FloatingGoat i am usually too busy correrting all the stupid things i say to notice any one else
[03:26] <user630> i like my name "user 630"  well install on USB-stick is no official option - but i try and test - at this moment it runs !?! ...
[03:26] <FloatingGoat> hahaha
[03:31] <user630> ey - i got a "Python.3-2-x"
[03:31] <user630> and firefox wants to restart ...
[03:33] <LumpOfCoal> hmmm i wonder how that happened.. heh
[03:33]  * LumpOfCoal is beat atm
[03:33] <LumpOfCoal> i feel like i should open a bakery
[03:34] <len-dt> Worked in one as a teen... the boss and I both decided it was not for me
[03:34] <LumpOfCoal> I do pretty good at it actually
[03:35] <len-dt> I do about 6 or 7 loaves a week...
[03:35] <len-dt> wild yeast.
[03:35] <LumpOfCoal> i tried a traditional french bread today though... lets just say, i have a rather large pretzel
[03:35] <LumpOfCoal> i don't do that many a week
[03:35] <LumpOfCoal> 3-4
[03:36] <len-dt> I find the more full the oven is the better my bread does.
[03:36] <LumpOfCoal> esp for electric ones
[03:36] <LumpOfCoal> i like gas ovens for baking personally
[03:37] <LumpOfCoal> and len-dt did you catch what i mentioned earlier
[03:37] <len-dt> Ya, I block the vent, put a layer of fire brick splits to cook on...
[03:37] <len-dt> Everything works now?
[03:37] <LumpOfCoal> every version, every os, connects just fine
[03:37] <len-dt> Ya, there may have been a lib update that happened...
[03:37] <LumpOfCoal> but i made absolutely no changes to the settings on the versions and os i failed with on friday
[03:38] <LumpOfCoal> i would have had to update for that to happen no?
[03:38] <len-dt> Did you reload the OS?
[03:38] <LumpOfCoal> nope
[03:38] <len-dt> gremlins
[03:38] <LumpOfCoal> i did load a few earlier versions on new partitions
[03:38] <LumpOfCoal> but did nothing to the ones i had installed
[03:39] <LumpOfCoal> the only one that has issues is debian
[03:39] <LumpOfCoal> but i never played with that enought to even check dependancies
[03:39] <LumpOfCoal> and i have no motivation to do so
[03:39] <len-dt> debian should ...... should deal correctly with depends
[03:40] <user630> ... and firefox is back again ...
[03:40] <LumpOfCoal> well it is rather a mute point, i care not to worry about debian for streaming
[03:40] <LumpOfCoal> i want to use tango and/or studio for that particular task
[03:42] <LumpOfCoal> right now, the latest, i think 12.04 studio is set as my daily desktop
[03:43] <user630> ... and i reboot again ...
[03:43] <LumpOfCoal> i put the older distros on a hotswap as a fallback
[03:43] <LumpOfCoal> and the fire bricks
[03:43] <LumpOfCoal> that is a great idea
[03:44] <len-dt> I find ten just covers one of the racks.
[03:44] <len-dt> I heat the oven as hot as it will go.... then basically turn it off to bake.
[03:45] <len-dt> It hits about 500F
[03:45] <LumpOfCoal> that sounds like it would be great for a traditional french
[03:45] <LumpOfCoal> among others
[03:45] <len-dt> I do basic wild yeast whole wheat. Flour, water, salt...
[03:46] <LumpOfCoal> i have a hard enough time finding yeast here period
[03:47] <LumpOfCoal> email me any recipes and sources you want
[03:47] <len-dt> water/flour 50/50 let it sit for 24hours
[03:48] <LumpOfCoal> and that forms a yeast?
[03:48] <len-dt> cut in half and add enough to bring back to the same weight.
[03:48] <len-dt>  after about a week it is ready to use.
[03:48] <LumpOfCoal> so you culture it and keep it in the fridge amish style
[03:48] <len-dt> Ya, it is yeast and bacteria.
[03:48] <len-dt> Sour stuff.
[03:49] <LumpOfCoal> ah, a sour dough culture
[03:49] <len-dt> I use a form of "no knead"
[03:50] <LumpOfCoal> my basic loaf is a half high gluton, half whole wheat with a bit of rye
[03:50] <LumpOfCoal> three loaf recipe
[03:50] <len-dt> When I say flour it is normally a mix.
[03:50] <LumpOfCoal> i do it about once a week
[03:51] <len-dt> whole and rye, but sometimes oat/flax/barley in small amounts.
[03:52] <LumpOfCoal> i think you and i are going to have many conversations in the future len
[03:52] <LumpOfCoal> darn glad i met ya
[03:52] <len-dt> ever visit permies.com?
[03:52] <LumpOfCoal> no
[03:52] <LumpOfCoal> but i will in a second
[03:53] <len-dt> In one of the threads I did a complete thing on my bread with pics
[03:54] <LumpOfCoal> meshelly and i are flower pot gardeners as well
[03:54] <LumpOfCoal> great site
[03:54] <LumpOfCoal> is it yours?
[03:54] <len-dt> No
[03:55] <len-dt> got asked to moderate once... but I was too busy here
[03:56] <LumpOfCoal> hmm
[03:56] <LumpOfCoal> they do podcasts as well eh
[03:56] <LumpOfCoal> remember my whole seperate test stream thought and such
[03:57] <LumpOfCoal> might be a good community to see if they would want to get involved
[03:57] <LumpOfCoal> i can have up to ten "channels" with centanovacast
[04:03] <FloatingGoat> len-dt: my other youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZROHxG3mG7A
[04:13] <len-dt> FloatingGoat, so what do you think of it?
[04:17] <len-dt> The mic is farther away... the voice and guitar are about even, maybe move the mic just a bit closer (inch or two at a time) to have the voice just noticeably higher. Its hard to get just right.
[04:17] <len-dt> Listen with your eyes closed.
[04:19] <len-dt> FloatingGoat, you and I both have soft voices.
[04:20] <len-dt> there are some good examples of people who have done well even so.
[04:20] <FloatingGoat> Soft voice=bad usually?
[04:21] <len-dt> only if you watch the idol shows...
[04:21] <FloatingGoat> I totally agree with that
[04:21] <FloatingGoat> lol
[04:22] <len-dt> Remember a song called "The year of the cat"?
[04:23] <len-dt> Seems he has a soft voice.
[04:23] <len-dt> female? listen ti Dido
[04:23] <FloatingGoat> The closest ive compared my voice to someone successful is the lead male vocals in the XX
[04:23] <FloatingGoat> I would go as far as saying mine is even more vibrant than his
[04:25] <len-dt> If you want to do art, you are not likely to work for a big recording company anyway.
[04:32] <len-dt> Watching xx the vocalist is mostly vocalizing more than singing. But ya you do project a bit more than that.
[04:32] <len-dt> First time I have seen an SG being used for a while.
[04:35] <FloatingGoat> chrystalized?
[04:35] <LumpOfCoal> later all and all have a great holiday
[04:35] <len-dt> Ya.
[04:35] <len-dt> Thats the one.
[05:30] <FloatingGoat> ya, i might cover it
[20:34] <whoo> Unable to locate package nautilus-gksu
[20:35] <whoo> otherwise not able to open files with admin privileges on a right click basis
[20:36] <whoo> I need some help
[20:42] <whoo> I got it...