[07:42] <Daft_Punk> SasL, probably basic terminal commands as you might need to know them sometimes, as well as how to use ROOT and why you shouldnt always be root
[07:42] <nanotube> lvty: yes
[07:43] <Flannel> SasL: Depends on where they're coming from.  The biggest is probably package management (which usually means add/remove or synaptic package manager).  And then the permissions (sudo stuff, etc)
[07:43] <lvty> nanotube: might want to run it in higher debugging level and paste that
[07:43] <nanotube> lvty: done that... here let me post my ubuntuforums thread (no replies ... :( )
[07:44] <nanotube> lvty: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6723444
[07:44] <Brack101> Hi
[07:44]  * Daft_Punk waves excitedly at Brack101
[07:45] <Brack101> I'm trying to create a cron job that runs mplayer for an alarm clock.  When it triggers the mplayer process, I only get .5 seconds of sound.  anyone know what's up?
[07:45] <Brack101> 44 23 * * * mplayer /home/travis/Music/alarm.mp3
[07:45] <Brack101> after crontab -e
[07:45] <lvty> nanotube: can you paste the entire thing in pastie or somewhere?
[07:46] <toshi> use alarm clock why make a cron...
[07:46] <nanotube> lvty: by entire thing you mean the whole ekiga -d 6 debug output?
[07:47] <sastha> Daft_Punk: Thank.Any reference links available?
[07:47] <Brack101> toshi: so I can practice my linux, and be all nerdy and have to use pskill to kill my alarm clock in the morning
[07:47] <marathon> hello i have 2 pc with UBUNTU how to connect a pc to the other
[07:47] <Brack101> toshi: besides, there's no good built in alarm clock as far as I can tell
[07:47] <sastha> Flannel: Thanks.Is package management that important?
[07:47] <boshhead> Random tip: sudo !!   <-- This will run the last command you wrote with 'sudo' in front of it.
[07:47] <Daft_Punk> sastha, sorry, references for?
[07:47] <toshi> apt-get install alarm-clock
[07:48] <Flannel> boshhead: A better method is to hit up, then hit home, then type sudo.  Otherwise you can get confused, and do the wrong command with sudo
[07:48] <marathon> i want to see the folders of the other pc but samba ask for password and when i set the right password it tells that the password is wrong
[07:48] <toshi> lol
[07:48] <lvty> nanotube: yes
[07:48] <boshhead> Flannel: No, that's much less effecient :P
[07:48] <sastha> Daft_Punk: Terminal commands? and its interesting,the sentence u said.'Y u shouldn't be ROOT all the time'. :)
[07:48] <Flannel> sastha: Package management (you don't need to know all about it, just how to use the package managers to find stuff) is how you install new software (and find new software to install)
[07:49] <Flannel> sastha: https://help.ubuntu.com/ actually covers all of the basics
[07:49] <sastha> Flannel: Thanks
[07:49] <Flannel> boshhead: No, its not actually.  And its much safer.
[07:49] <nanotube> lvty: ok, let me generate it...
[07:50] <boshhead> Flannel: I bet you wear a helmet when going outside :)
[07:51] <blinko> I wear a helmet when i go outside.  It's DANGEROUS out there.  On account of the plate in my head.
[07:51] <Viking667> hey. What package provides gtk-config ?
[07:51] <nanotube> lvty: here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119555/
[07:52] <nanotube> lvty: thanks for taking a look at this btw :)
[07:53] <lvty> nanotube: yw, I wish I was actually skilled at this (only had something similar with a builtin usb cam)
[07:53] <empiric> hi i want ha document/content managment system on debain machine
[07:53] <empiric> any good one any one knows?
[07:54] <luminerd> A friend has a issue with Pidgin not launching on a default install of Ubuntu. He clicks it, but it does not launch, and the icon does not appear on the bar. What should I tell him?
[07:54] <n2diy> empiric: Openoffice?
[07:55] <empiric> no no
[07:55] <empiric> Enterprise
[07:55] <empiric> contetct managemnt
[07:55] <rww> luminerd: open a terminal, type pidgin in it, and see what error he gets
[07:56] <n2diy> empiric: make up your mind, do you want to manage documents, or contacts, or what???
[07:56] <luminerd> I got rid of the shortcut to terminal on these machines :/ is there a key combo that will let you run terminal or something
[07:56] <empiric> contents
[07:56] <lvty> nanotube: the only thing I can think of is that it's not finding the plugins. that would probably take a debugger or at least strace
[07:56] <empiric> well primarily documents
[07:56] <rww> luminerd: alt-f2 and type gnome-terminal
[07:56] <luminerd> thanks
[07:57] <n2diy> empiric: nobody can answer you question, until you know what you want to do.
[07:57] <lvty> nanotube: that video0 symlink isn't pointing at a /dev/ node is it?
[07:58] <wojtek> jest ktos z polski ?
[07:58] <n2diy> ! pl
[07:58] <empiric> n2diy i want document managemnt system any good you know?
[07:58] <luminerd> Ok I'll have him do that thank you :D
[07:58] <n2diy> empiric: what is wrong with Openoffice?
[07:58] <wojtek> jak przejsc na ten serwer ? -pl
[07:59] <nanotube> lvty: you mean the one in /sys/class/video4linux ?
[07:59] <tritium> wojtek: /j #ubuntu-pl
[07:59] <quibbler> wojtek, type  /join #ubuntu-pl
[07:59] <katia> hola
[08:00] <empiric> open office is where i write docs if i want to pcae dosumnets on a web based system where users can have only read access to these files and admin has write access
[08:00] <lvty> nanotube: yeah, and it's not supposed to. looks like it's detecting the audio and assuming that's all there is
[08:00] <empiric> should have version managment of docs as well
[08:01] <rww> empiric: oh, so you mean a web-based CMS? something like drupal maybe?
[08:01] <n2diy> empiric: I "think" OO can do all that, but you would need help specific to OO for that. Try and find an OO channel?
[08:02] <nanotube> lvty: well, it's not pointing to /dev/video0... it's pointing at /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb1/1-1/video4linux/video0
[08:02] <lvty> nanotube: the bug looks like it's in pvl2plugin's handling of that metadata
[08:02] <Daft_Punk> * Cannot join #ubuntu-offtopic (You are banned). Why was I banned?
[08:03] <Flannel> Daft_Punk: #ubuntu-ops is the place to discuss those things
[08:03] <nanotube> lvty: hrm... so what do you suggest? where does that plugin live, that is - if i upgrade to the latest ekiga (it's up to v3.x now), might that help?
[08:03] <Daft_Punk> Flannel, thank you
[08:04] <travis_> ex-chat
[08:04] <Scix> how can i automount a share into a folder inside a users homedir, using autofs-ldap?
[08:05] <lvty> nanotube: it's pretty unlikely, and building ekiga from sources is very painful
[08:05] <nanotube> lvty: hrm... so what can i do? possible to upgrade just the pvl2plugin?
[08:06] <nanotube> lvty: pv4lplugin, that is
[08:06] <lvty> nanotube: may have to use another SIP client
[08:07] <lvty> nanotube: since hardware issues and lack of support in kernel are already ruled out
[08:07] <nanotube> lvty: can you suggest a good one i could use? one that is foss?
[08:08] <nanotube> lvty: and supports videochat
[08:09] <lvty> nanotube: might try sip communicator
[08:09] <lvty> nanotube: of course FOSS... kind of, you need a JRE
[08:11] <lvty> nanotube: the main problem is nothing can drill through firewalls like Ekiga (and skype, which uses dirty tricks supposedly)
[08:12] <nanotube> lvty: hmm... well, maybe out of curiosity i might try the jaunty alpha livecd and see if ekiga3 works on it. :)
[08:12] <lvty> nanotube: there's also wengo, so you have a few applications to fall back on
[08:13] <nanotube> lvty: well, thanks for your help. i'll try these other guys and see if they can do the magic. :)
[08:14] <lvty> nanotube: yw, wish I could've done more
[08:14] <nanotube> lvty: good night :)
[08:15] <IntuitiveNipple> nanotube: Ekiga 3 seems to handle USB V4L2 video okay on Jaunty
[08:15] <lvty> night, or morning :)
[08:16] <nanotube> IntuitiveNipple: cool... thanks for the info.
[08:16] <nanotube> lvty: yea... more like morning indeed. :)
[08:18] <lvty> the problem I have with ekiga is there only seems to be an alsa audio plugin
[08:19] <mtretin> Emacs Question: I can't tell emacs to use ttf-inconsolata with my .Xresources file but I can tell it to you Monospace? Any ideas why?
[08:20] <Scix> could anyone help me with a channel where someone know autofs? I realy need help
[08:21] <n2diy> How do I DL a .deb, and put it on sdb1?
[08:21] <world_citizen> hi, how can I access SSH from terminal? I need to enter the password for my login, but I think it's asking for the server password or something? xxxxx@xxxxx:~$ ssh -l -D www.host.com 8080 usernamehere
[08:21] <tritium> n2diy: packages.ubuntu.com
[08:22] <n2diy> tritium: chrootkit isn't in the repos.
[08:22] <tritium> n2diy: yes, I saw it earlier
[08:22] <Flannel> n2diy: I believe synaptic can generate a download script too, if you need to do more than a few.
[08:22] <tritium> n2diy: package name is chkrootkit
[08:23] <n2diy> tritium: chkrooket, ok, let me try that, thanks.
[08:24] <xnevermore> Hey. I've installed a new kernel version. Running update-grub detects the new kernel ("Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-12-generic"), but doesn't update menu.1st to include it. Whats going on here?
[08:26] <optraz> what does SRU means? i saw a lot sru specified in the ubuntu newsletter
[08:27] <petski> SRU: Stable Release Update
[08:27] <optraz> k
[08:27] <optraz> thanks
[08:27] <petski> np :)
[08:28] <Guest33167> hi
[08:28] <Guest33167> where can i download some wallpaper
[08:28] <jpds> Guest33167: interfacelift.com
[08:29] <sebsebseb> Guest33167: or open the synaptic package manager and search for wall paper
[08:29] <sebsebseb> wallpaper
[08:30] <sebsebseb> jpds: thanks for the site
[08:30] <jpds> sebsebseb: It's not bad.
[08:30] <sebsebseb> jpds: also stuff like   gnome-look.org  deviantart.com
[08:31] <jpds> sebsebseb: True :)
[08:31] <U-b-u-n-t-u> how do i stop compiz from starting on start up?
[08:31] <B10S> where can i find my apache logs?
[08:31] <sebsebseb> jpds: ,but  yeah it's true.  Ubuntu sucks for  default wallpapers, unlike other distros, and even Windows
[08:32] <Guest33167> thanks for teh wallpaper lins cool dudes
[08:32] <jpds> B10S: /var/log/apache/
[08:32] <THX^> what is that a coffee stain?
[08:32] <Daft_Punk> Guest33167, www.digitalblasphemy.com has nice wallpapers too
[08:32] <sebsebseb> Guest33167: yeah  no problem,  and you can get some from the package manager as I was saying
[08:33] <B10S> jpds: thanks
[08:33] <sebsebseb> Daft_Punk: thanks for that to
[08:33] <Guest33167> thanks
[08:33] <sebsebseb> Guest33167: make sure you see the screensavers you get in Ubuntu
[08:33] <sebsebseb> Guest33167: most of them very beautiful
[08:33] <Guest33167> what screen savers??
[08:34] <sebsebseb> Guest33167: system administration synaptic package manager   for that.    and    for the screensavers:  system preferences  screensaver
[08:35] <Kohvihoor> is it possible to direct one sound card to one user and other soundcard for other user?
[08:35] <klikklak> my mouse stops working after sdlmame or (probably) other opengl apps.  I can still move around the cursor, but it doesn't move focus and clicks don't register, what's causing this?
[08:39] <poke006> hello
[08:39] <klikklak> ah, BTS <3 I found the bug
[08:40] <poke006> oo
[08:40] <bnagy> savvas: you still up?
[08:41] <bnagy> hm. I'm trying to apt-get -f install and xulrunner1.9 is not installing
[08:41] <Shay26> Hello , can anyone recommend me on tool to convert video files (wmv format) to other formats such avi etc.. ?
[08:41] <bnagy> /var/lib/dpkg/info/xulrunner-1.9.postinst: 5: /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9: not found
[08:41] <bnagy> dpkg: error processing xulrunner-1.9 (--configure):
[08:42] <Rainium_Isotope_> go to cnet.com and search for converters
[08:42] <Rainium_Isotope_> youll find more than enough
[08:42] <Rainium_Isotope_> and theyre all free
[08:42] <petski> Shay26: ffmpeg
[08:42] <Rainium_Isotope_> o wait im thinking windows.. heh
[08:42] <Rainium_Isotope_> sry
[08:42] <nikolaz> anyone using thunar?
[08:43] <zubeen> bnagy: try updating the repositories..  you may need to check whether your repositories are compatible at the same time
[08:43] <bnagy> zubeen: yeah just did an update, using the main repo
[08:44] <rww> !anyone | nikolaz
[08:44] <petski> Shay26: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ffmpeg (please also take notice of medibuntu, that you might find interesting)
[08:44] <bnagy> also did dpkg reconfigure all thing
[08:44] <Rainium_Isotope_> hey i have a built-in cam on my laptop and tried to install the driver with easycam2 and everything worked out but when i tried to run it the video was not working properly, is it possible that the cam just isnt compatible?
[08:44] <zubeen> bnagy: you are on which version?
[08:45] <nikolaz> rww: ok
[08:45] <shams> can you introduce me a good tools for backing up of my file system and mysql?
[08:45] <bnagy> 8.1 but it's the easy-peasy netbook ISO
[08:45] <nikolaz> im using thunar fila manager and i cannot copy any document to desktop.. why
[08:45] <bnagy> what I _think_ I want to do is get an x86 binary of that file and just copy it into usr/bin
[08:46] <bnagy> can I extract that from the package file somehow?
[08:46] <zubeen> bnagy: eh.. it aint that simple..
[08:46] <bnagy> might be :)
[08:47] <bnagy> or, alternatively, how do I look at the postinstall script and see what it's trying to do?
[08:47] <IntuitiveNipple> bnagy: Have you tried purging the package and trying again?
[08:47] <bnagy> IntuitiveNipple: yes, and it broke sudo
[08:47] <bnagy> which was an hour gone
[08:47] <Rainium_Isotope_> hey is it possible to copy desktop files into the filesystem using gnome?
[08:48] <Rainium_Isotope_> ..anyone
[08:48] <IntuitiveNipple> bnagy: lol... yes, I recall seeing you mention something about that earlier
[08:48] <bnagy> :)
[08:48] <IntuitiveNipple> Rainium_Isotope_: Yes - start nautilus as root using Alt+F2 then "gksudo nautilus"
[08:49] <bnagy> so savvas had me do a dpkg --configure --all or somesuch, which finally completed
[08:49] <bnagy> and now I am kind of back at the start
[08:49] <IntuitiveNipple> bnagy: Hmmm, it sounds as if there's something gone wrong than just a few isolated package configuration issues.
[08:49] <Rainium_Isotope_> what exactly will that do?
[08:50] <shams> can you introduce me a good tools for backing up of my file system and mysql?
[08:50] <IntuitiveNipple> bnagy: Can you give us a quick outline of what happened leading up to this?
[08:50] <bnagy> nothing, really, tried to run an update, firefox was in the list
[08:50] <Shay26> I need help please , when i playing video files (avi ,wmv) the video flickering (i replaced the player to vlc but still the same problem) i using Ubuntu intrepid 8.10
[08:50] <IntuitiveNipple> Rainium_Isotope_: Run nautilus with root privileges so you have write permissions into the / file-sytem
[08:50] <bnagy> firefix wants xulrunner
[08:50] <quibbler> !backup
[08:50] <Rainium_Isotope_> ahh ok thank you.
[08:51] <bnagy> so I got the error I already pasted, and the first thing I tried was remove and reinstall :P
[08:51] <IntuitiveNipple> bnagy: It sounds as if the original update was upgrading sudo - that would explain the sudo break... I think :)
[08:51] <pvh_sa|wrk> hi, i recently upgraded a machine from 8.04 to 8.10 and now when i do "sudo" it says : "sudo: pam_authenticate: Module is unknown" - any ideas?
[08:51] <shams> quibbler: thank you
[08:52] <bnagy> IntuitiveNipple: hm.. maybe.. when I removed xulrunner it removed a lot of stuff, and xul seems to be a dependency of sudo for some reason
[08:52] <bnagy> so i figured that was what happened
[08:52] <IntuitiveNipple> bnagy: Is it Intrepid?
[08:52] <bnagy> but anyway, sudo is fixed now, so bygones and all
[08:52] <bnagy> yes
[08:52] <rww> bnagy: pretty sure xulrunner isn't a dependency of sudo =/
[08:52] <savvas> bnagy: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install
[08:53] <JackWinter__> how do i see what path g++ looks for headers in ?
[08:53] <bnagy> savvas: yep, done that, same error :)
[08:53] <savvas> darn
[08:53] <IntuitiveNipple> bnagy: So the update is <IP_ADDRESS>+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> ?
[08:53] <n2diy> How do I protect a virgin install of Hardy from internet attacks?
[08:53] <bnagy> but the reconfigure finished :P
[08:53] <bnagy> IntuitiveNipple: yes, that's right
[08:53] <IntuitiveNipple> n2diy: It's protected by default
[08:54] <bn43> does anyone know how to reset the bios password using linux?
[08:54] <savvas> bnagy: there's another way to do this, but it's a bit extreme, that is to "sudo aptitude purge ubuntu-standard ubuntu-desktop" and install it all over again: "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" but I can't guarantee it won't bork your system even more :\
[08:54] <bnagy> yeek
[08:55] <bnagy> I think I'll try just putting the binary there manually first
[08:55] <IntuitiveNipple> bnagy: My inclination would that the package has somehow been corrupted in apt's archive, but because the previous version's postinst script is still available, it has removed the old version but got stuck installing the new... that would explain the missing /usr/bin/xulrunner but
[08:55] <chu_> is songbird coming to the repositories?
[08:55] <savvas> bnagy: it keeps the ubuntu-minimal, which could be the console (ctrl+alt+f1), but I can't make any promises, sorry - at least we tried :)
[08:55] <IntuitiveNipple> bnagy: The way I'd do it, I'd tell dpkg/apt that xulrunner is no longer installed, then install from the .deb package
[08:55] <rww> bn43: Turn your computer off, unplug it, remove the CMOS battery and leave it for a few minutes.
[08:55] <Flannel> bn43: Use Linux to turn off the computer.  Open the computer case, pull out the BIOS battery.
[08:56] <DavidTangye> Does anyone else think that the single biggest thing outstanding that needs to work better is sound (recording, palyback over USB, speakers,mic port, whatever)?
[08:56] <bn43> its a laptop - can't get to the battery
[08:56] <bn43> rww: thats why I wanted to know if there is a tool in linux to do that
[08:56] <kapipi> Where can I find the version of aptitude that has "Super Cow Powers"?
[08:57] <bnagy> IntuitiveNipple: OK, sounds good - how do I do that?
[08:57] <rww> bn43: BIOS passwords aren't generally resettable from Linux (or Windows or other operating systems).
[08:57] <rww> kapipi: There isn't one. The super cow powers thing is an inside joke.
[08:57] <IntuitiveNipple> bnagy: give me a mo... Jaunty is updating and it's just stopped the bluetooth service so lost the mouse :)
[08:57] <hateball> bn43: of course you can get to the battery in a laptop. usually under they keyboard
[08:57] <kapipi> rww: awwww
[08:58] <n2diy> IntuitiveNipple: yes, and no, take a look at http://www.itsecurity.com/features/ubuntu-secure-install-resource/, I've gotten as far as installing chkrootkit, but can't figure out how to install it without exsposisg the box to the internenet?
[08:58] <kapipi> rww: maybe the debian version has them then
[08:58] <bn43> hateball: thats a good tip - I'll have a look
[08:59] <bnagy> n2diy: if you have your box behind any box that  does NAT (stock adsl router) nobody can attack you directly
[08:59] <n2diy> bnagy: that is what I'm trying to protect myself, and network, from.
[09:00] <bnagy> ?
[09:01] <savvas> n2diy: what's with the super secrecy?
[09:01] <bnagy> n2diy: what I mean is that even an insecure box will be OK if it's behind a NAt router
[09:01] <mudit> i m trying to install ejabberd on my lan
[09:01] <bnagy> OK enough to DL updates anyway, just don't use a browser or any client program until you're updated
[09:02] <n2diy> savvas: security, not secercy.
[09:02] <mudit> the jabber client would connect to the server on the same machine, but not on lan !
[09:02] <daughtree> hi
[09:02] <daughtree> how do i know if this ubuntu im using now is LTS or desktop ubuntu?
[09:03] <daughtree> lsb_release -a wont give me the exact detail
[09:03] <n2diy> bnagy: roger that, how do I determine if I'm behind a NAT?
[09:03] <DJones> daughtree: which version does it say you're using
[09:03] <Uplink> im having issues with my firefox, please help
[09:03] <petski> n2diy, download the .deb for chkrootkit and all of it's dependencies, and copy them on a USB-stick for instance
[09:03] <bnagy> n2diy: uh.. you don't know? I mean, how are you connected to the internet? Do you own the box that does the magic?
[09:04] <mudit> anyone ?
[09:04] <DJones> daughtree: If its version 8.04, thats an LTS version, although if you've installed from the standard desktop cd, you'll have a desktop version
[09:04] <n2diy> bnagy: stupid question on my part. I want to protect the box before it goes live online,  I'm connected via adsl.
[09:04] <petski> bnagy: I don't agree with your "you're safe behind NAT" theory
[09:05] <bnagy> petski: that's your right
[09:05] <savvas> n2diy: as I previously said, http://packages.ubuntu.com and you search for the packages you want. Otherwise, head to http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=155034&package_id=172567&release_id=650418 and compile the source :)
[09:05] <kaka> bababalu
[09:05] <savvas> n2diy: you probably have a cd-rw or a usb flash drive handy
[09:06] <savvas> n2diy: or any means to transfer .deb or .tar.gz files to the machine without internet
[09:06] <kaka> savvas: ubuntu no deb:)
[09:06] <kaka> bababalu
[09:06] <savvas> kaka: english
[09:06] <daughtree> DJones: somebody installed it and i dont know what installer he is using
[09:06] <daughtree> # lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 8.04.2 Release:	8.04 Codename:	hardy
[09:06] <mudit> i m trying to install ejabberd for my lan
[09:06] <daughtree> DJones: that is what i saw now
[09:07] <rww> daughtree: Hardy/8.04 is LTS, yes
[09:07] <mudit> the jabber client would connect to the server on the same machine, but not on lan !
[09:07] <daughtree> ok thanks
[09:07] <gradin> so installed ubuntu using wubi and now it takes 20 minutes to boot up my laptop
[09:07] <gradin> anybody got any ideas?
[09:07] <gradin> i'm on intrepid
[09:07] <kaka> wubi no good
[09:07] <kaka> ok
[09:07] <n2diy> savvas: yes, that is what I've been trying to do, but I missedforgot your suggestion, let me try that.
[09:07] <kaka> only virtuale macine
[09:07] <kaka> good
[09:07] <kaka> oh native boot
[09:07] <kaka> good
[09:07] <FloodBot2> kaka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:07] <kaka> babita babita
[09:08] <rww> kaka: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[09:08] <gradin> i didn't see anything blarrinly obvious in the syslog or dmesg
[09:08] <DJones> daughtree: As mudit confirmed, 8.04/hardy is a LTS version
[09:08] <savvas> n2diy: ok, no problem, try http://packages.ubuntu.com/yourpackagename e.g. http://packages.ubuntu.com/rkhunter then click on your release, then look at the dependencies (clickable) or download the arch you want (click on i386 or amd64) and choose a download mirror
[09:08] <kaka> rww: oasi friendchup just friendy
[09:08] <gradin> but taking 3o mintues to boot into ubuntu is ridiculace
[09:08] <kaka> rww: me frind comuniti
[09:08] <ikonia> kaka: try to keep the discussion to support releated only please
[09:09] <kaka> rww: me 100% ubuntu
[09:09] <kaka> ikonia: me 100% ubuntu
[09:09] <n2diy> savvas: roger, waiting for it to open up now.
[09:09] <IntuitiveNipple> gradin: Look in /var/log/kern.log and examine the log-message timestamps to see if there is a point where there is a large delay between messages... That'll usually give a clue as to the reason.
[09:09] <ikonia> kaka: you just said, please try to keep your chat to support only
[09:09]  * savvas tries something
[09:09] <savvas> !es | kaka
[09:10] <kaka> no spek that one languaje
[09:10] <kaka> kkkkk
[09:10] <crackerjackz> kaka: what language do you speak?
[09:10] <kaka> only portugues
[09:10] <dim3dro1> hi all
[09:10] <DJones> !pt
[09:10] <ikonia> !br | kaka
[09:11] <dim3dro1> I have 3g pcmcia modem Option 3.6 Gt Max
[09:11] <kaka> babita ba ba ba
[09:11] <kaka> me only friend cumunity
[09:11] <ikonia> kaka: please stop that
[09:11] <ikonia> !pt | kaka
[09:11] <dim3dro1> I try to use wvdial for connect
[09:11] <kaka> obligado
[09:11] <dim3dro1> here's my wvdial.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/119571/
[09:12] <dim3dro1> here's output from my console: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/119573/
[09:12] <dim3dro1> here's part of my syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/119575/
[09:12] <bnagy> IntuitiveNipple: so.. how do I manually install from the .deb like you were saying?
[09:12] <dim3dro1> can someone help me with wvdial?
[09:19] <Tha_Stig> hai
[09:19] <lobo> some room about ubuntu but in spanish please?
[09:20] <DJones> !es | lobo
[09:20] <Tha_Stig> i have an Acer Aspire One netbook with no cdrom and i cant find my flash usb, i was wondering if it is possible to install ubuntu via external hard disk drive?
[09:20] <lobo> thanks ubottu
[09:20] <mudit> i m trying to make ejabberd installed on a ubuntu server work on my lan
[09:20] <gradin> IntuitiveNipple: http://pastebin.com/m3bdfa2a1
[09:22] <gradin> or rather anybody http://pastebin.com/m3bdfa2a1
[09:22] <gradin> anybody know why it takes 30 minutes to boot at that point?
[09:23] <lobo> is lonely in #ubuntu-es no body is there...
[09:25] <Sarkie> hi guys, i'm trying to make my ubuntu a server but its failing on this error message when no monitor is plugged in
[09:25] <Sarkie> http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-83b2f9b8c18db15e641ed9e0be8f9a8364001e5b
[09:25] <Sarkie> is there a line in the xorg.conf I can edit to tell it, not to try?
[09:26] <ikonia> Sarkie: 1.) what version of ubuntu 2.) destkop or server install 3.) what arch 32/64bit 4.) what video card
[09:27] <bnagy> hm...
[09:27] <xnevermore> hey. I've just updated my kernel, and although update-grub detects the new kernel, it won't add it to menu.1st. what could be going wrong?
[09:27] <bnagy> how do I un-fullscreen a terminal? My cat just decided to make my terminal fullscreen :P
[09:27] <Sarkie> ikonia: 8.10, desktop, 32 bit, intel based.. let me find out
[09:27] <ikonia> xnevermore: how did you update your kernel and to what version ?
[09:27] <bnagy> I think she stepped on one of the f keys :/
[09:28] <bnagy> ahha, nm, f11
[09:28] <bnagy> bad kitty!
[09:28] <xnevermore> ikonia: update-manager. to 2.6.27-12-generic
[09:28] <gradin> anybody no why ubuntu is taking 20 minutes to load?
[09:28] <ikonia> gradin: your using wubi - could be many reasons
[09:29] <p1oooop> hey alll
[09:29] <p1oooop> AP's not here?
[09:30] <xnevermore> update-grub reports "Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-12-generic", then later "Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done", yet the new kernel is nowhere to be found in menu.1st and doesn't appear in the menu during boot
[09:30] <p1oooop> strange
[09:30] <ikonia> p1oooop: what's up ?
[09:30] <b4chip> hi there
[09:30] <ikonia> xnevermore: have you only got one version of linux/ubuntu installed on this box ?
[09:30] <p1oooop> nothing, just decided to drop by while the USBpendrive s being written
[09:30] <b4chip> I'm I;m a user on a linux server and I have access throght it using ssh , how can I change mysql password?
[09:31] <p1oooop> you know, the live USB creator
[09:31] <smTdust> question: I got wireless working (ath0 <IP_ADDRESS>) on an embedded box, my eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> is working as well. I can use my laptop (to which I assign a static ip of <IP_ADDRESS>) to ssh into the embedded box. ssh works fine. however when i pull up terminal, and try to ping the eth0 port on the box from my laptop (eg ping <IP_ADDRESS>), I get an Network Unreachable error. I have enabled ipv4 forwarding. how to i link 192.168.99.x
[09:31] <ikonia> b4chip: mysqladmin or grant on the mysql command line
[09:31] <ewj1976> If I dual boot two linux distros and one of the installation's kernels gets updated, do I have to manually edit grub or will the distro still boot? And if so, how do I edit it (not the file, I know that, but what would change?)
[09:31] <smTdust> also..i dont care about security since the box wont be on the internet
[09:31] <p1oooop> lol
[09:32] <p1oooop> you can have a guest acount
[09:32] <ewj1976> I mean, I know which file to edit, just not how to if I must.
[09:32] <ikonia> ewj1976: depends which distro has a controlling interest in menu.lst
[09:32] <ikonia> ewj1976: or if your using a shared boot partition
[09:32] <p1oooop> smTdust:
[09:32] <xnevermore> ikonia: well there's only one install of ubuntu, if thats what you mean. but there are a few old kernels still hanging around
[09:32] <ewj1976> I installed crunchbang then linuxmint. It's mint.
[09:33] <ikonia> xnevermore: no other linux'es installed ?
[09:33] <xnevermore> ikonia: nope
[09:33] <ikonia> ewj1976: ok - so nothing to do with ubuntu so not supported here
[09:33] <ikonia> xnevermore: try removing some of the old kernels, there may be a bug in that if grub has more than $X kernels it cant update with update-grub
[09:33] <ewj1976> Okay, just curious, since crunchbang IS ubuntu with a few extra things installed.
[09:33] <ikonia> ewj1976: ok - so nothing to do with ubuntu so not supported here
[09:34] <xnevermore> ikonia: just remove them through synaptic?
[09:34] <ikonia> xnevermore: yeah
[09:34] <p1oooop> ikonia: say, do you know how to use persistent mode on the live CD?
[09:34] <p1oooop> ikonia: really...
[09:34] <ikonia> p1oooop: just a matter of making /home on a persistant disk
[09:35] <spidla> hi there .. I have got a problem .. I will probably not like me cause I am a OpenSUSE user :-) but I used to have Ubuntu 8.10 ... I have got a problem with Xorg / KDE 4 randomly freezing session. The error is relater to Xorg (according to a bug i have googled) ... the log says something about EQ overflowing ... the bug is in early state of resolving so I want to ask if there is any workaround
[09:35] <spidla> *You will
[09:35] <p1oooop> ikonia: does it save EVERYTHING that way?
[09:36] <ikonia> p1oooop: no - just your user settings/preferences
[09:36] <p1oooop> ikonia: awww... well... good enough
[09:36] <corinth> Is anyone here using harbour-launcher?
[09:36] <Sarkie> ikonia: 82865G Intel Integrated
[09:37] <spidla> any suggestions ?
[09:38] <Uplink> whats the command to cp dirs?
[09:38] <p1oooop> I am so jealous of some of you guys... actual domain names... :'(
[09:38] <sky_> hi any program for manipulating with video ?
[09:39] <sky_> lik windooze movie maker ? :D
[09:39] <B10S> isnt dyndns meant to auto update your IP?
[09:39] <JoSSeTeSERVER> to auto update ip I use no-ip
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[09:40] <cr4z3d> yes dyndns cand be used
[09:40] <B10S> JoSSeTeSERVER, i thought dyndns does it too?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> could try www.no-ip.com
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> its free
[09:40] <sky_> program for video editing pls .D
[09:40] <cr4z3d> yeah there's more than one site for it
[09:40] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: hey AP
[09:41] <cr4z3d> sky_: kino
[09:41] <sky_> kino ?
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> sky_: kino or avidemux, apt-cache search video edit
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> !info kino
[09:41] <sky_> can i cut video ?
[09:41] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: hows my fav contributer
[09:41] <ActionParsnip1> sky_: i have no idea, i dont use it, i only know OF it
[09:41] <bnagy> ohh kay -  still can't resolve this xulrunner issue
[09:42] <bnagy> I removed it and firefox etc and I now have a clean apt-get -f install
[09:42] <p1oooop> frizen again?
[09:43] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: you may have to use force to uninstall at some point, I had that same issue.
[09:44] <bnagy> in the post-install for xulrunner-1.9 it looks for /usr/bin/xulrunner-$XUL-VERSION, I checked another box and that's just a symlink to ../lib/xulblahblah/xulrunner
[09:45] <bnagy> AP: hm, I tried purge already
[09:45] <rww> !netsplit
[09:45] <nananuu> Hi I have Ubuntu 8.04 LTS I dont have any support any more yes?
[09:46] <bnagy> I tried just creating the symlink but it then dies on some missing library
[09:46] <rww> nananuu: LTS releases are supported for three years on the desktop and five on the server, so you do still have support. Desktop support ends in April, 2011
[09:47] <nananuu> oo thanks rww  :) that means I don`t need to reinstal :)
[09:48] <rww> nananuu: If I remember correctly, the next LTS comes out in 2010, and you'll be able to upgrade directly to it from 8.04. You don't need to worry about anything until then :)
[09:48] <bnagy> ActionParsnip1: is there any command to force uninstall more than apt-get remove ; apt-get purge?
[09:49] <nananuu> That`s good rww
[09:54] <georgeaf> hey guys, how can i start pulseaudio after i killed it on ubuntu 8.10 ?
[09:56] <rww> !netsplit
[09:57] <Stueh> QuadroFX Go700 (revision 1)
[09:57] <SiDi> yeh probably
[09:57] <malakhi> dayo: for any of a dozen reasons, the link between freenode's servers dropped out.
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: awesome nvidia is massively supported :D
[09:57] <artistx> can i configure wubi to install artistx
[09:57] <jasonchin> i can have access to the internet but i got problem connecting to computers in a windows workgroup
[09:57] <SiDi> a pretty scary one yeh
[09:57] <smTdust> smtd
[09:57] <artistx> can i configure wubi to install artistx
[09:57] <histo> dayo__: there are multiple nodes and when one drops it splits the network in to 2 pieces.
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> jasonchin: can you ping them by name  and ip?
[09:57] <YAA1> histo: yep.. I need the User-Lockout feature (with samba on LDAP) if a user failed XX logon attempts. It seems that this problem is fixed only in 3.3.x+  . I tested Samba 3.0.x and 3.2.x on Debian etch+lenny with NO LUCK. will test samba 3.3.x on debian soon. but asking for 3.3. on ubuntu too, because ubuntu may be our next server OS maybe.
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173
[09:57] <georgeaf> i want to start pulseaudio again after i killed it, it's giving me 'device or resource busy' how can i start it ?
[09:57] <artistx> can i configure wubi to install artistx
[09:57] <dayo__> malakhi histo: i see
[09:57] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: hey... so is it sudo open /some/file/
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> p1oooop: to do what?
[09:57] <dayo__> rww: thanks!
[09:57] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-173
[09:57] <Stueh> Huh, that hurt
[09:57] <Stueh> Thanks ActionParsnip1
[09:58] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: to aoen a file with root permissions
[09:58] <jasonchin> i can ping the ip address
[09:58] <artistx> can i configure wubi to install artistx
[09:58] <YAA1> histo: you copy ?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> p1oooop: if you are using a gui app like gedit, use gksudo, if its cli like nano, use sudo
[09:58] <georgeaf> i want to start pulseaudio again after i killed it, it's giving me 'device or resource busy' how can i start it ?
[09:58] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: not working
[09:58] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: oh hold up
[09:58] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: after thats installed run: gksudo nvidia-settings
[09:58] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: helps to close other package managers
[09:58] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: kk cheers
[09:58] <Spike1506> !netsplit
[09:59] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: yep, you can only have 1 package app accessing the packages at one time
[09:59] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: ? I want to open a config file that "belongs" to root
[09:59] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: can't find package, do I need to add a URL?
[09:59] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: I'm on a fresh install of 8.04
[09:59] <Cruster> dayo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[10:00] <p1oooop> 8.10 is the latest
[10:00] <p1oooop> :D
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: ahhh thats why, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[10:00] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: Righto thank's mate
[10:00] <ActionParsnip1> p1oooop: 8.04 is LTS, 8.10 isnt
[10:00] <p1oooop> O yea, long term support
[10:00] <p1oooop> XD
[10:00] <jasonchin> ActionParsnip1: i can ping the ip address
[10:00] <dayo1> Cruster: thanks!
[10:01] <ActionParsnip1> jasonchin: and the name?
[10:01] <georgeaf> people, i think this is an easy question, i want to start pulseaudio again after i killed it, it's giving me 'device or resource busy' how can i start it ?
[10:01] <Hemebond> Argh. My volume buttons keep changing what mixer/volume control they control.
[10:01] <jasonchin> ActionParsnip1: how and where can i ping the name of network computers?
[10:01] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: nvidia-glx has no installation candidate
[10:01] <Hemebond> Right now the buttons are changing 4 different playback controls.
[10:01] <emine> salut
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: apt-cache search nvidia
[10:02] <Stueh> says the package is not available but is reffered to by another package
[10:02] <Stueh> righto
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: can you pastebin the output please
[10:02] <p1oooop> jasonchin: well, jason... you have to find the IP of them first
[10:02] <ActionParsnip1> !paste | Stueh
[10:02] <YAA1> !info ssamba
[10:02] <YAA1> !info samba
[10:03] <randu> Hello ppl, I have a problem with Ubuntu server. I rebooted and now the interfaces are being ignored (or so ubuntu claims). Thus, no network. When I try to ping, the following message comes up: WARNING: Interface is ignored: Operation not permitted \n connect: Network is unreachable. The file /etc/networking/interfaces is correctly configured (since it worked until now), static ip. Any ideas, anyone? Please? :)
[10:03] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: can I pm?
[10:03] <p1oooop> jasonchin: usually 192.168.1.XXX
[10:03] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: use the pastebin and put the link in here
[10:03] <jasonchin> ActionParsnip1: i got the ip address...
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> jasonchin: ok then if you can ping you have a logical connection. Try: smb://x.y.z.a/<share foldername>  in your file browser (replace the relevat ip address and share name)
[10:04] <YAA1> randu: had something similar. what interface-name do you use in your interfaces file ? and what available interfaces dies it shot when you do a "ifconfig -a" ??
[10:04] <savvas> Stueh: what's the output of: lspci | grep VGA
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: if you paste to pastebin and then give the address your browser goes to we can read it all
[10:04] <YAA1> randu: ... interfaces does it show ...
[10:04] <jasonchin> ActionParsnip1: but i do the ping from the network tools under System-->administration tools...Is there any other way to ping?
[10:04] <ActionParsnip1> savvas: geforce go 700 quattro
[10:05] <randu> YAA1: it shows eth0 and lo. I only have them in interfaces.
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> jasonchin: its a command line command. ping
[10:05] <creative83> Where did the feisty repos go?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> do they seriously have a gui app for ping?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> !feisty
[10:05] <ActionParsnip1> creative83: feisty is dead
[10:06] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: Sorry, I'm a bit slow, not used to this, and I'm still in 800x600 reso =P Anyhoo - http://paste.ubuntu.com/119611/
[10:06] <savvas> ActionParsnip1: the gui ping i think it's System > Administration > Network tools
[10:06] <moby> hello. how can I one and all the time set volume on 100%? allways when I turn on ubuntu volume is 0%.
[10:06] <creative83> ActionParsnip1: Uups.. I thought I installed LTS. So I was wrong on this I guess ;)
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> creative83: even LTS releases die
[10:06] <ActionParsnip1> !hardy
[10:07] <YAA1> randu: dies "ifconfig -a" show you a eth0 ?? and does it have a IP Adress bound ?
[10:07] <YAA1> randu: does
[10:07] <bnagy> ok, so if I can't install xulrunner-1.9, is there a way I can force install an older firefox that doesn't need it?
[10:07] <sastha> How to find whether the ubuntu installed by system is 32-bit version or 64-bit version?
[10:07] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: Do I want xserver-xorg-video-nv and nvidia-config packages ?
[10:07] <savvas> Stueh: what does this command return: lsb_release -d
[10:07] <randu> YAA1: i tried "ifconfig" and it shows: eth0 and lo. I can go back to the server room and try "ifconfig -a" if you want to. eth0 has an ip address bound.
[10:08] <hateball> sastha: uname -a
[10:08] <savvas> sastha: uname -m
[10:08] <Stueh> Ubuntu 8.04.2
[10:08] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: you need to enable the restricted driver repo
[10:09] <savvas> Stueh: enable the universe multiverse and restricted repositories from System > Administration > Software sources
[10:09] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: maybe a stupid question ... but how do I do that? =S
[10:09] <Stueh> Ah cheers savvas
[10:09] <p1oooop> anyone know what the multiverse enable/disable is for?
[10:09] <savvas> np:)
[10:09] <YAA1> randu: hmm strange.. recheck physical network link to the switch and make sure you are root when trying ping. ping yourself first (<IP_ADDRESS>), then your local ip, gateway a.s.o.
[10:09] <ikonia> p1oooop: enable/disable the repo
[10:09] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:09] <rww> !multiverse | p1oooop
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: find the word restricted and uncomment the lines (delete the # at the start of the line). Here is a guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[10:10] <randu> YAA1: allright, I will put the network cable in another computer and I will try to ping as root. I will be back to tell the results.
[10:10] <savvas> ActionParsnip1: already told him, sorry I jumped in :)
[10:10] <p1oooop> ikonia: ok, I was wondering cause I needed to enable that in order to install adobe falsh
[10:10] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: done =)
[10:10] <p1oooop> *flash
[10:10] <ActionParsnip1> savvas: np man, its all good
[10:10] <randu> YAA1: will try to ping when cable is connected to server lol :)
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: ok save, close gedit
[10:11] <Stueh> righto
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: sudo apt-get update
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: apt-cache search nvidia
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: pastebin again
[10:11] <degrit> I seem to have messed up my audio, could do with a hand - in particular, killing pulseaudio and force-reloading alsa has apparently failed
[10:11] <ikonia> p1oooop: it should be enabled by default
[10:11] <Stueh> Oh that's why I coudln't update before ... forgot sudo >.>
[10:11] <Stueh> kk
[10:11] <savvas> ActionParsnip1: I think the hardware drivers can take it over from here
[10:11] <ActionParsnip1> savvas: yeah?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip1> savvas: i always manually do it, mind you I manually do pretty much everything
[10:12] <YAA1> randu: I cannot help more than this. im not aware of any new security features or internal functionality of ubuntus network scripts and stuff. if this did not helped ask here again or try to reinstall network package.
[10:12] <YAA1> l8r folks..
[10:12] <Ethan> \join #gnuplot
[10:12] <savvas> ActionParsnip1: the hardware drivers do the extra setup in xorg.conf - at least with my nvidia :P
[10:12] <Ethan> :$
[10:13] <_sektor>  \join #gnuplot
[10:13] <ActionParsnip1> savvas: oh so it runs nvidia-xconfig for you?
[10:13] <Stueh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/119612/
[10:13] <savvas> ActionParsnip1: I'm not sure about hardy though
[10:13] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119612/
[10:13] <jasonchin> ActionParsnip1: thanks alot...now i can get connected. I got one more problem connecting to the shared printer on this computer
[10:14] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: Hrm, I'm an idiot, I pasted the update as well >.>
[10:14] <Stueh> Sorry!
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> jasonchin: never done that dude, have a websearch or ask in here
[10:15] <ActionParsnip1> jasonchin: http://www.watchingthenet.com/connecting-to-shared-printers-on-windows-computers.html
[10:16] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: Fantastic, d/ling and running now =)
[10:16] <ActionParsnip1> jasonchin: you will need the linux driver for the printer
[10:16] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: cool
[10:17] <B10S> how can i use the windows key/SUPER to open applications on the panel?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip1> !shortcut
[10:17] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: Was there a netsplit before? I think it crashed my Pidgin when everyone entered ... seeing there's another 1000 people in here than before
[10:17] <jasonchin> ActionParsnip1: ok, i'll try looking for it on the manufacturer's site
[10:17] <B10S> nice, thanks
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> jasonchin: it may already be supported, have a websearch round
[10:18] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: aye it was
[10:18] <bnagy> argh
[10:19] <bnagy> this xulrunner this is driving me nuts
[10:19] <Stueh> Ooh unpacking!
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: can you pastebin the command you are executing as well as the resulting output
[10:19] <Stueh> Ooh done!
[10:19] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: all done?
[10:19] <bnagy> the postinst scripts refers to /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9, but that file doesn't exist and it's not listed in the .list for the package
[10:20] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: Now, in JWM I would restart Xorg ... what do I need to do here? O=)
[10:20] <bnagy> ActionParsnip1: not really, no firefox, which is the whole thing :)
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: create it manually with: sudo touch /usr/bin/xulrunner-1.9
[10:20] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: paste the text to a text file
[10:21] <bnagy> ActionParsnip1: I did better - it's just a symlink to a file in the xulrunner lib dir, so I created it
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: siudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /path/to/fileyoucreated
[10:21] <bnagy> but then it barfs on a missing library
[10:21] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: gksudo nvidia-settings
[10:22] <creative83> !upgrade
[10:22] <bnagy> ahh.. ok I think I can do that, just command >& file?
[10:22] <degrit> does all the audio stuff get restarted/reset if I restart X ?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: can you install pastebinit?
[10:22] <simple|eeepc> this might be an odd question, but why does the alternate cd ask me to insert the alternate cd whilst installing
[10:22] <Stueh> Says I need to run nvidia-xconfig first, so I run that, but then it came up with the same error ...
[10:22] <simple|eeepc> ?
[10:22] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: Says I need to run nvidia-xconfig first, so I run that, but then it came up with the same error ...
[10:23] <simple|eeepc> In the install base system step
[10:23] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: ok, close that lot down then run:sudo nvidia-config    then hit ctrl+alt+backspace
[10:23] <simple|eeepc> it asks for me to insert the alternate cd in the cd drive, however it locks the cd tray and the disk itself is infact the 8.10 alternate cd
[10:24] <langouste> join #pydza
[10:24] <bnagy> ActionParsnip1: http://pastebin.com/f231b7b3a
[10:24] <ActionParsnip1> simple|eeepc: did you check the iso before burning as well as verify the cd was ok before continuing?
[10:25] <simple|eeepc> ActionParsnip1, Iso is fine
[10:25] <bnagy> ActionParsnip1: that output is with the symlink put in place manually
[10:25] <simple|eeepc> and i checked it using the cd check
[10:25] <simple|eeepc> (to be doubly sure)
[10:25] <simple|eeepc> but yeah
[10:25] <B10S> errr, i think i just pressed Super+m and everything has gone dark (maybe mono)??? how do i get it back to normal
[10:25] <simple|eeepc> its a very wtfy error
[10:25] <Silicium> where in the Squashfs on the LiveCD is the Home environment of the Live User (Ubuntu) defined?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: sudo dpkg --force-all -r xulrunner-1.9; sudo dpkg --force-all -r xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support
[10:25] <Silicium> i want to change some user specific settings on my custom CD
[10:26] <Silicium> hi btw :)
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> !bootoptions | simple|eeepc
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> simple|eeepc: try disabling stuff like DMA and ACPI
[10:26] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: that will rip the apps out, no foolin
[10:26] <bnagy> ActionParsnip1: ok done
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: ok i'd run sudo apt-get remove firefox    too
[10:27] <bnagy> but my symlink is still there...
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: get all the firefox stuff out
[10:27] <B10S> errr, i think i just pressed Super+m and everything has gone dark (maybe mono)??? how do i get it back to normal
[10:27] <bnagy> will rm it
[10:27] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: remove that manually
[10:27] <simple|eeepc> kk
[10:27] <corinth> The HP mini mie interface is sooooo nice. :-)
[10:27] <B10S> looks like everything is inverted
[10:28] <B10S> even web pages
[10:28] <bnagy> ActionParsnip1: ok, apt-get -f install clean again
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> binarydigit: sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get clean
[10:28] <bnagy> should I force remove firefox or just plain remove?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: apt-get needs sudo
[10:28] <Gautam> my ubuntu login in dos mod and i wanna login in graphics mod
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: just plain remove if youo can
[10:29] <Gautam> plz help me
[10:29] <Gautam> my ubuntu login in dos mod and i wanna login in graphics mod
[10:29] <bnagy> ok that's what I did ( and I just skipped the sudo part to save typing ;)
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> Gautam: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[10:29] <ActionParsnip1> Gautam: dos is a microsoft product
[10:29] <Gautam> ok thanks
[10:30] <bnagy> ActionParsnip1: ok, clean
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: ok sweet
[10:30] <Gautam> after than
[10:30] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: install what you wish
[10:30] <simple|eeepc> ActionParsnip1, how do you disable DMA?
[10:30] <B10S> help
[10:31] <ActionParsnip1> Gautam: sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm
[10:31] <Gautam> ok
[10:31] <Gautam> this will insatll without cd
[10:31] <bnagy> ActionParsnip1: HA! finally
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> simple|eeepc: try adding: noacpi noapm nodma   to the boot options
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: --force-all is only used as a last ditch, it can cause system instability
[10:32] <simple|eeepc> k
[10:32] <simple|eeepc> I'm getting buffer IO errors on startup
[10:32] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: but stubborn packages like you had need it
[10:33] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: Erm, getting a message when I run nvidia-settings: "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your x configuration file (run nvidia-config) and restart the x server
[10:33] <B10S> help
[10:33] <simple|eeepc> this is a machine thats run ubuntu and fedora for the last few years and run it fine
[10:33] <B10S> please
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> simple|eeepc: i'd check your and fsck your drive
[10:33] <B10S> errr, i think i just pressed Super+m (i think) and everything has gone dark (maybe mono)??? how do i get it back to normal
[10:33] <simple|eeepc> ActionParsnip1, drives have been formatted like 6 times now
[10:33] <simple|eeepc> every reinstall
[10:33] <B10S> looks like everything is inverted
[10:33] <simple|eeepc> it always fails when copying fiels
[10:33] <B10S> even web pages
[10:33] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please
[10:33] <bnagy> ActionParsnip1: thanks for the help. I like ubuntu, but some of this apt / dpkg weirdness freaks me out sometimes :)
[10:34] <Stueh> !pastebin
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> simple|eeepc: ok, well all I can suggest is check ram but you may need different boot options, Check around the place. You could also try disabling hardware in your bios like sound cards and the like justuntil you get installed
[10:34] <ActionParsnip1> bnagy: its just annoying
[10:35] <simple|eeepc> ActionParsnip1, memtest came up clean
[10:35] <simple|eeepc> hmmm
[10:35] <bnagy> yeah, well I was on gentoo last 5 years and that has its own set of annoyingness, so I guess it just comes with the territory
[10:35] <simple|eeepc> i have a new ethernet card
[10:35] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: it's at http://paste.ubuntu.com/119622/
[10:36] <dusty>  Hey guys, I am having real trouble creating an SSH Tunnel and
[10:36] <dusty>                getting it to bind to the external interface - It keeps binding
[10:36] <dusty>                to local host as you can see here:
[10:36] <dusty>                http://rafb.net/p/DZvtld77.html anyone got any idea why it is
[10:36] <dusty>                doing this ?
[10:36] <FloodBot1> dusty: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: looks groovy to me
[10:36] <Gautam> this cammand is not succesfully
[10:36] <int256> screen capturing software for ubuntu. must support capturing as video.
[10:36] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: so does gksudo nvidia-settings    not give you a nice interface to modify settings?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip1> !recordmydesktop | int256
[10:37] <Extend> i'm working to upgrade a server running feisty, anyway i'm working according to this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#Before%20you%20start , now i receive error because update-manager-core creates a file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/prerequists-sources.list contains the mirror deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-backports main/debian-installer , i manually tried to change the mirror f
[10:37] <Extend> rom us.archive.ubuntu.com to a valid one but it won't , after i start do-release-upgrade it's overwrite the file with the same US mirror, how can i solve this?
[10:37] <ActionParsnip1> !info recordmydesktop | int256
[10:37] <B10S> :(
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> Extend: try running sudo apt-get update
[10:38] <Extend> i did before do release upgrade
[10:38] <Ademan> is there any decent way to tell if you have 2d acceleration enabled?  (like could I discover whether X.org is running with XRender and would that be a decent metric? or what?)
[10:38] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: same message still
[10:38] <ohchuzi> hello
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> B10S: have ytou tried rebooting?
[10:38] <aniiena> if I build a Live USB can I mount a NTFS drive on one computer and plug the same USB stick into another without messing things up?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> !hi | ohchuzi
[10:38] <das__> #Zero-Raws@irc. moeotaku. com
[10:38] <ActionParsnip1> aniiena: sure
[10:38] <B10S> ActionParsnip1,  will try now
[10:38] <das__> join<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:39] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: sorry it gives me a GUI but the GUI has a popup message that says what I pasted before
[10:39] <Stueh> And then no configurable options at all
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> aniiena: just remember to remove it properly (and not just wrench it out of the system)
[10:39] <ubersoft> Hi there, anyone here to help me some stuff,
[10:39] <aniiena> So changes are persistant, like I could use a different desktop environment from say Ubuntu/Xubuntu
[10:39] <ubersoft> i need to install "SQUID with DELAY POOLS"
[10:39] <aniiena> but differences in hardware wouldn't be an issue?
[10:39] <ActionParsnip1> aniiena: they will be on the usb stick
[10:39] <ubersoft> so any one who have some hands on this stuff !!!
[10:40] <Extend> please anyone check and help me http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/119625/
[10:40] <ActionParsnip1> aniiena: there are a lot of drivers on the install to support most
[10:40] <aniiena> would it make sense to have a bunch of different xorg.conf's premade for different LCDs/resolution?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip1> !nvidia | Stueh
[10:40] <ActionParsnip1> Stueh: try that
[10:40] <ubersoft> ActionParsnip1 are you helping others ? please help me in this stuff of installing "SQUID with DELAY POOLS"
[10:40] <Stueh> ActionParsnip1: Righto, cheers mate
[10:40] <ActionParsnip1> aniiena: thats where you will have issues but you could make a few xorg.confs and switch manually between
[10:41] <Favorit> hola
[10:41] <ubersoft> ! ubottu
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> ubersoft: i have never used squid, thats why i didnt reply,
[10:41] <aniiena> So let's say my computer that I want to run ClamAV has a nvidia driver and my friend's has an ATI card.
[10:41] <ActionParsnip1> ubersoft: there are 68 users in #squid
[10:41] <ubersoft> Ok, anyone here who can tell me what to do to install squid with DELAY POOLS.
[10:41] <aniiena> Will it autodetect that settings have changed and change drivers (or prompt me to) as appropriate?
[10:42] <Favorit> ubersoft: install quid, configure delay pools?
[10:42] <Favorit> squid that is
[10:42] <ActionParsnip1> aniiena: then you will need both ati and nvidia drivers installed, ten 2 xorg.conf files which you will have to manually switch then restart x to get a good display
[10:42] <ubersoft> Yes Favorit
[10:42] <ActionParsnip1> Favorit: no efb today :D
[10:42] <aniiena> ahh ok, thanks
[10:42] <ubersoft> Actually,, when we use apt-get to install squid, they just install it defauly.
[10:42] <Favorit> ActionParsnip1: efb?
[10:42] <ubersoft> default* and no configuration takes place.
[10:42] <bnagy> ubersoft: you just need to configure it
[10:43] <Favorit> ubersoft: http://quark.humbug.org.au/publications/squid/aclsquid.html
[10:43] <aniiena> So if I just want a mountable Linux to run ClamAV on
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> Favorit: the guy yesterday on about --purge
[10:43] <bnagy> google 'configure squid delay pools' :P
[10:43] <aniiena> would it make more sense to go with PuppyLinux over say Ubuntu on a livecd?
[10:43] <Favorit> ActionParsnip1: fde he was or so
[10:43] <aniiena> err liveusb
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> aniiena: yeah, the video switching in puppy is awesome imho
[10:43] <ubersoft> bnagy i have tried something else for it, i wget the file and dowloaded it in /var/tmp and then tar it...
[10:43] <ActionParsnip1> Favorit: that too ;)
[10:43] <B1OS> ActionParsnip1: worked, thanks :)
[10:43] <ubersoft> then by doing some CD. i used ./configure.
[10:43] <Favorit> ActionParsnip1: well, he still didn't convince me ;)
[10:43] <ubersoft> but it gives error...
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> B1OS: its windowsy, but reboots can fix a lot
[10:44] <ActionParsnip1> Favorit: me neither
[10:44] <trancefat> Hi All, I m trying to access the internet using my mobile phone with Bluetooth but I m stuck at a point where i must open bt-applet
[10:44] <Favorit> ubersoft: don't compile squid, apt-get it
[10:44] <bnagy> ubersoft: you can install it however you want, but it won't enable delay pools until you conifgure them
[10:44] <trancefat> I cant find bt-applet
[10:44] <ubersoft> configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
[10:44] <Favorit> exactly
[10:44] <trancefat> ALT+F2 doesnt open it
[10:44] <ubersoft> ok and then...
[10:44] <int256> any screen capturing software ?.
[10:44] <Favorit> don't compile stuff which you can install from the repo
[10:44] <Favorit> ubersoft: apt-get install squid, read http://quark.humbug.org.au/publications/squid/aclsquid.html
[10:44] <ubersoft> ok after getting apt-get then.
[10:45] <ubersoft> Oke let me c.
[10:45] <Iowahc> int256: try your print key ;)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip1> !squid
[10:45] <Favorit> someone, shoot me in the head :)
[10:45]  * ActionParsnip1 takes aim
[10:45]  * Favorit dodges skillfully.
[10:46] <int256> Iowahc: its image. i want to capture sceen as video
[10:46]  * ActionParsnip1 is using an H bomb
[10:46] <rww> !ot | Favorit, ActionParsnip1
[10:46] <Iowahc> int256: try xvidcap
[10:46] <ActionParsnip1> int256: recordmydesktop does it too
[10:47] <Iowahc> int256: istanbul also does it, its in the repos
[10:47] <int256> Iowahc: ActionParsnip1: file format ?
[10:47] <Iowahc> int256: xvidcap -> xvid i guess ;) istanbul -> i dont know
[10:48] <Iowahc> int256: istanbul -> ogg
[10:48] <Iowahc> int256: http://live.gnome.org/Istanbul
[10:48] <Favorit> mrr, what was the command to generate more locales... dpkg-reconfigure locale or so?
[10:48] <int256> Iowahc: ok
[10:48] <Nyad> Hello, im in the ubuntu liveCD. how do I get ubuntu installer to see the LVM from my fedora install and allow me to install in the space that I have reserved it for
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> int256: ogg which you can then convert
[10:49] <int256> ActionParsnip1: using ?
[10:49] <int256> ActionParsnip1: using which software ?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip1> int256: ffmpeg / mencoder
[10:49] <trancefat> How can i connect to the internet using Ubuntu and mobile phone
[10:50] <int256> int256: how to use ffmpeg / mencoder
[10:50] <Iowahc> int256: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/FFmpeg
[10:51] <int256> Iowahc: ok
[10:51] <Iowahc> int256: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/mencoder
[10:51] <Iowahc> ;)
[10:51] <int256> Iowahc: thanks
[10:51] <Iowahc> int256: np
[10:51] <ActionParsnip1> int256: they are both vastly complex but i'm sure a quick websearch will turn something up
[10:52] <unknown_> Hi, can anyone tell me how can I fix follwing error (in syslog) type=1503 audit(1234953359.139:6): operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="w::" denied_mask="w::" fsuid=0 name="/dev/ttyUSB0" pid=7863 profile="/usr/sbin/cupsd"... Builtin hsdp modem doesn't want to work :/ Yesterday was ok
[10:53] <Extend> please anyone check and help me http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/119625/
[10:53] <int256> ActionParsnip1: ok
[10:53] <ActionParsnip1> trancefat: http://piyadas-world.com/2009/01/tips-use-your-bluetooth-phone-for-internet-access-in-ubuntu/
[10:54] <Ademan> anyone know how I could find isc-posix.m4 ?  I have several flavors of libisc and there are no -dev packages available that I can see... and nothing exists in /usr/lib/aclocal or /usr/lib/aclocal-1.9
[10:54] <ActionParsnip1> Ademan: try apt-file
[10:56] <trancefat> ActionParsnip1: thanks
[10:59] <varlon> hi, I try to forward X11 via ssh-tunnel, so, In ubuntu server I setup sshd with options: X11Forwarding yes, X11DisplayOffset 10, in local ssh-client (debian) I setup ssh_config: ForwardAgent yes, ForwardX11 yes, ForwardX11Trusted yes, and launch: ssh -X ubuntu.server, in sheel I call xterm and got: xterm:  DISPLAY is not set. why DISPLAY is not creating?
[10:59] <varlon> hi :-)
[10:59] <Favorit> varlon: Host is not Trusted?
[11:00] <unknown_> Guys, please help me to solve this problem ;( http://pastebin.com/m1fab7751 I think its something with permission, but don't know nothing more, only that I can't connect using gsm connection
[11:00] <varlon> Favorit, I nothing do for make host trusted, what I must to do?
[11:01] <Favorit> varlon: also, try to login using ssh -v, you'll probably see why it refuses to create display
[11:01] <Favorit> varlon: just comment out the line ForwardX11Trusted, leave it at default
[11:01] <varlon> thanks
[11:02]  * Favorit :Q
[11:03] <varlon> Favorit, '-v' is realy help me. xauth was not installed, thanks
[11:04] <licantrup> How do I know which filesystem type is one of my partitions?
[11:04] <licantrup> df -T gives me fuseblk
[11:05] <temoto> How to express   <IP_ADDRESS> *.something in   /etc/hosts?
[11:05]  * int256 installed windows xp in virtualbox, now it shows processor speed as 7024.23 Ghz !!!
[11:06] <ActionParsnip1> licantrup: sudo fdisk -l
[11:06] <ActionParsnip1> int256: haha nice
[11:06] <ActionParsnip1> int256: does it say single core too?
[11:07] <int256> ActionParsnip1: no processor in device manager !!!
[11:07] <leneko> hi people
[11:07] <ActionParsnip1> int256: wow impressive
[11:07] <ActionParsnip1> int256: have you installed guest additions?
[11:07] <int256> ActionParsnip1: wait i will send you screenchot
[11:07] <int256> ActionParsnip1: ya
[11:07] <Shwaiil> Hi ppl!
[11:08] <ActionParsnip1> int256: use tinypi / imageshack
[11:08] <leneko> i have some ssh relative question
[11:08] <int256> ActionParsnip1: ok
[11:09] <macrobad> Hi, guys! Could someone tell me why Ubuntu doesn't include OpenOffice.Org 3?
[11:09] <bazhang> !imagebin
[11:09] <Shwaiil> Q: I'm not a ubuntu user, I want to start with it, pretty soon. I would like to know, if its possible to change driver letters (from partitions), easily in Ubuntu? also, is it possible to create virtual drivers from folders, like is done in win ? Please let me know, thanks for your atention! ;D
[11:09] <licantrup> thanks ActionParsnip1
[11:10] <rww> macrobad: It was released too close to the Intrepid release date to be properly tested, and Ubuntu releases aren't updated with major package changes after they come out. The next version, Jaunty, will have OO.org 3
[11:10] <Ciantic> I used sshfs, can I make the desktop unmount to work? Or do I have to manually always "fusermount -u dir"
[11:11] <roy_> Ciao
[11:11] <macrobad> Shwaiil: You might be surprised to know there are no drives letters in Linux at all. :) Just try it, and ask questions afterwards. If you've never had any experience with Linux you would not be able to guess how it looks like.
[11:11] <macrobad> rww: Thanks!
[11:12] <creative83> How do I upgrade 7.04 to 7.10? do-release-pgrade  doesn't work because it can't fetch the Package lists...
[11:12] <creative83> It's a server so I have to do it with CLI
[11:12] <int256> ActionParsnip1: http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4597/702423nf2.png
[11:13] <Shwaiil> macrobad, thanks! Unfortunately, I use a remote power computer center, that uses win directory/folder structure. There's no way I could emulate that, right?
[11:13] <int256> ActionParsnip1: http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6827/devicemanagerwithoutprolw7.png
[11:13] <ActionParsnip1> int256: good ol xp
[11:14] <ActionParsnip1> int256: why do you need a virtual xp?
[11:14] <int256> ActionParsnip1: to play games
[11:14] <ActionParsnip1> int256: only 2d games will work
[11:15] <NIT[L]> hello, i was wondering if someone can help me with my problem
[11:15] <macrobad> Shwaiil: I am not sure what you call a "win directory/folder structure". There is a filesystem in Linux, which helps you to avoid all the hassle with drive letters. I cannot see why you should not be able to create an arbitary directory tree in Linux.
[11:15] <chu_> I bought a 500gb external, it says it only works with windows and mac os x, just plugged it in and it was detected fine :)
[11:15] <s-toned> How do I change the "mouse-resize-button" from middle button  to right button?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | NIT[L]
[11:15] <int256> ActionParsnip1: is it. but i enable 3d acceleration
[11:15] <ActionParsnip1> int256: its not gonna happen
[11:15] <ActionParsnip1> int256: try it
[11:15] <int256> ActionParsnip1: ok
[11:16] <NIT[L]> ok well, i can't get ubuntu to display in 1440x900 resolution. I have 180.29 nvidia drivers.
[11:16] <int256> can i run Windows games in ubuntu. i want to run NFS Most wanted
[11:16] <temoto> How to express   <IP_ADDRESS> *.something in   /etc/hosts?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip1> !appdb | int256
[11:17] <macrobad> Shwaiil: You can think of it, as if there was a "root" drive, which included all other drives as its folders, and allowed to arbitarily create and delete those folders, as well, as rename and assign drives to them in any way you like it.
[11:18] <int256> ubottu: i tried to run it in wine. but failed
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> int256: looks like its in the new 2.1 but its an experiment implementatio of opengl
[11:18] <ActionParsnip1> int256: did you check appdb to see if there are any tweaks
[11:18] <int256> ActionParsnip1: pls help
[11:19] <ActionParsnip1> int256: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=8714&iTestingId=28853
[11:20] <ActionParsnip1> int256: you could try installing in the vbox, i'm not sure its gonna fly
[11:21] <int256> ActionParsnip1: does the wine 2,1 released ?
[11:21] <wallunit> When I start my system alsa does not work untill i have started alsamixer the first time. How can that be?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> int256: i meant vbox 2.1
[11:22] <NIT[L]> Anybody know how to get ubuntu to display in 1440x900. It doesnt show that resolution in the display settings.
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> wallunit: read through: dmesg | less
[11:22] <Sarkie> edit the xorg.conf?
[11:22] <int256> ActionParsnip1: i am using vbox 2.1.2
[11:22] <NIT[L]> I am new to linux so could you help please
[11:22] <wallunit> ActionParsnip1: After boot or after starting alsamixer?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip1> int256: then it may work with 3d, i have my reservations but thre no harm in having a go
[11:23] <int256> ActionParsnip1: ok
[11:23] <ActionParsnip1> wallunit: whenever, just read through, its gonna be a long read but should tell you whats going on
[11:24] <NIT[L]> Sarkie: could you help  me edit "xorg.conf" , new linux user here
[11:25] <ActionParsnip1> NIT[L]: can you pastebin your current file pleasae
[11:26] <ActionParsnip1> !paste | NIT[L]
[11:26] <NIT[L]> ActionParsnip1: ah ok, 2 ticks
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> NIT[L]: or you can: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:27] <creative83> Any way to upgrade 7.04 now? It seems that do-release-upgrade don't work because it relies on non-existent repos
[11:27] <NIT[L]> http://paste.ubuntu.com/119635/
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> !upgrade | creative83
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> NIT[L]: whats the output of lspci | grep -i vga
[11:27] <creative83> ActionParsnip1: Did check that pages. They suggest using do-release-upgrade which fails.
[11:27] <ActionParsnip1> NIT[L]: you havent configured any video drivers
[11:28] <chu_> Can we add new "knowledge" to ubottu?  Its CLI (Server). But I now found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades which describes the solution for my problem.
[11:29] <Sarkie> Hi guys, still having this problem http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages#head-83b2f9b8c18db15e641ed9e0be8f9a8364001e5b. Running ubuntu 8.10, desktop, intel 5xxxx series graphics on board. When I unplug my monitor, since i want to run it as a server with VNC access?
[11:30] <creative83> ActionParsnip1: That won't work as described in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[11:30] <ActionParsnip1> creative83: and what is the output of lsb_release -c
[11:30] <creative83> ActionParsnip1: But they have a solution there
[11:30] <rww> creative83: Thanks for that EOLUpgrades link.  I got a .tar.bz2 archive of it, but it wants to run in wine, even though it should run without
[11:30] <coz_> guys I noticed on intrepid recently , if for example i open search for files, go to other and the search opens it is slow as heck  any fix for this?
[11:30] <creative83> ActionParsnip1: I'm using feisty.
[11:30] <Leissi> how can I change it to run in linux instead?
[11:30] <creative83> rww: np. Was at the bottom of the UpgradeNotes Page ;)
[11:31] <rww> creative83: ah. I must have missed that :)
[11:31] <moritzge> I have a server running ubuntu server. I mounted the second hd to "/home/moritz". the user "moritz" can see the files in "/home/moritz", but all the others can't.... I tried "chmod -R 777 /home/moritz", didn't work. Do I have to change the fstab options?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip1> Leissi: http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/System_requirements
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> NIT[L]: what's the output of lsb_release -c
[11:32] <wallunit> ActionParsnip1: There is nothing related to alsa or my soundcard in dmesg
[11:32] <NIT[L]> ActionParsnip1: Codename:	intrepid
[11:32] <ActionParsnip1> wallunit: o but does the soundcard come up ok?
[11:33] <wallunit> What does come up means? do you refer to lspci?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip1> NIT[L]: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[11:33] <ActionParsnip1> wallunit: no, in the dmesg, does the card get an irq and get setup correctly?
[11:33] <NIT[L]> ActionParsnip1: I am using 180.29 drivers by the way
[11:34] <wallunit> ActionParsnip1: I don't think so, what should i grep for?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> wallunit: nothing, just read it down
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> wallunit: dmesg | less
[11:34] <InDaLivingRoom> hi ActionParsnip1:)
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> NIT[L]: ok then run: gksudo nvidia-settings
[11:34] <ActionParsnip1> hi InDaLivingRoom
[11:35] <InDaLivingRoom> i have attached my multimedia pc to the hd tv and everything works just fine so far, exept movies flicker
[11:35] <InDaLivingRoom>  how can i fix this?
[11:35] <InDaLivingRoom> ActionParsnip1: ah opps its me, remote:D
[11:35] <simple|eeepc> InDaLivingRoom, did you install all drivers?
[11:35] <InDaLivingRoom> simple|eeepc: yes
[11:36] <ActionParsnip1> NIT[L]: does it say to run a command as root?
[11:36] <InDaLivingRoom> simple|eeepc: its an ati 4670
[11:36] <simple|eeepc> InDaLivingRoom, installed the latest ATI drivers?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip1> looks like he worked it out
[11:36] <moritzge> what options do i have to set in /etc/fstab for a ext3-device so that every user can read it?
[11:36] <InDaLivingRoom> simple|eeepc: intrepid did an update of the driver and the control center
[11:37] <simple|eeepc> moritzge, why would you want that?
[11:37] <simple|eeepc> k
[11:37] <InDaLivingRoom> simple|eeepc: i cannot find anything newer on amd hp as 46xx series doenst seem to exist there in the driver section...
[11:37] <ActionParsnip1> moritzge: here's mine:http://pastebin.com/f5ab4f22d
[11:38] <wallunit> ActionParsnip1: I have read it, but i wasn't able to find something related to the soundcard. But there is a lot of cryptic pci stuff, maybe there it is.
[11:38] <n2diy> How do I setup a sterile box with Ubuntu?
[11:38] <moritzge> simple|eeepc: it is my music harddrive, and all users shall have access to it
[11:38] <ActionParsnip1> moritzge: try defaults,realtime
[11:38] <ActionParsnip1> wallunit: maybe alsa isnt loading right
[11:38] <moritzge> ActionParsnip1: k
[11:39] <ActionParsnip1> moritzge: failing that try some websearching or man fstab is quite useful too
[11:39] <ActionParsnip1> moritzge: remember to create an empty folder to mount to
[11:40] <wallunit> ActionParsnip1: However after running alsamixer, it works, even though there are no new entries in dmesg.
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> moritzge: http://www.hafenscher.net/wiki/index.php?page=Mount_USB_stick_read_and_writable_for_users may help with options too
[11:40] <moritzge> ActionParsnip1: already various options in fstab... also chmod -R 777. the owner can read it, but all other users can't ... any idea?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> wallunit: weird, bit of a hack but you could autorun alsa mixer to get you sorted
[11:40] <InDaLivingRoom> simple|eeepc: err... suddenly i am not so sure anymore if i have all of the driver files installed, could you have a look at this please?  http://www.nopaste.org/p/a9hpr15v9
[11:40] <moritzge> ActionParsnip1: thx for the link
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> wallunit: try uid=1000
[11:41] <wallunit> ActionParsnip1: I now, that i could do it. but this is ugly.
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> wallunit: i'd use it for now until you can work it out
[11:41] <ActionParsnip1> wallunit: you could try reinstalling alsa, or compile it
[11:42] <n2diy> How do I setup a sterile box with Ubuntu?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: whats a sterile box?
[11:43] <n2diy> ActionParsnip1: one that has never been exsposed to the internet, worms, vinuses, etc...
[11:43] <Firio> Hi all. I'm not using ubuntu now,but can u answer me one thing.. Wich channel on this server can I get help to set up my real infobot with mysql and all the other things that r needed for the infobot to get the infobot to work?
[11:43] <wallunit> ActionParsnip1: I have already done apt-get --reinstall install alsa-base alsa-utils; dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base alsa-utils
[11:43] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: very few of those for linux (none are wild)
[11:44] <InDaLivingRoom> can someone pls tell me if this is all that i need to properly operate an ati card?  http://www.nopaste.org/p/a9hpr15v9
[11:45] <Firio> ?
[11:46] <n2diy> ActionParsnip1: true, but rootkits and such are out there, but to use chkrootkit, I have to DL it from the internet, exsposing my sterile box to all the nasties that chkrootkit should guard against., or detect.
[11:46] <oskar-> hi, when my laptop goes into suspend, the display isn't turned off, while it works, when closing the lid. any hints for a solution?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: then download it and burn to a cd
[11:46] <moritzge> i mounted a hd to /home/moritz. then i did "chown -R moritz /home/moritz" and "chmod -R 777 /home/moritz". now the user moritz can read it, but all the others can't.... any idea?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: you can scan the file for nastys et al on the downloading system
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: if you arent downloading from the web why have protection
[11:47] <Firio> second time askedI'm not using ubuntu now,but can u answer me one thing.. Wich channel on this server can I get help to set up my real infobot with mysql and all the other things that r needed for the infobot to get the infobot to work?
[11:48] <Geek`N`Proud> Firio, try #mysql for mysql help?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip1> Firio: if you wait to ask stdin, i think h owns the ubottu bot. he may be able to advise
[11:49] <n2diy> ActionParsnip1: I can't download it without exposing the box to the internet. How do I know the system doing the DL isn't compromised? I plan to download from the interenet, that is why I want a secure box to start with.
[11:49] <Geek`N`Proud> Firio, also:  http://www.missprint.org/infobot/
[11:49] <redspike> anyone know howto get adobe to display .pdf files right, if the font is helvetica adobe reader cant display them can i download the helvetica font in some package?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: ow can you be sure of anything online
[11:49] <oskar-> moritzge, do all containing directories have correct permissions? have you looked at: ls -l /home/moritz
[11:49] <Geek`N`Proud> they have a mailing list =]
[11:49] <Geek`N`Proud> they may be able to help too
[11:49] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: the data traverses a multitude of interconnection devices
[11:49] <mhiku> how can i install php6 in apt-get?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: you gotta draw the line somewhere
[11:49] <Geek`N`Proud> redspike, mstcorefonts
[11:49] <Geek`N`Proud> something like that
[11:50] <Geek`N`Proud> it's in the ubuntu-restricted-extras metapackage
[11:50] <mhiku> what do i type
[11:50] <redspike> Geek`N`Proud: i have installed them :( but it dosen help
[11:50] <Geek`N`Proud> redspike, what about KPDF or evince?
[11:50] <n2diy> ActionParsnip1: No I can't, is it too hard to put chkrootkit on the install CD, so as to avoid this issue?
[11:50] <Geek`N`Proud> they should work better than Adobe's stuff
[11:51] <redspike> Geek`N`Proud: dosent work in evince ether :(
[11:51] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: ive not done it
[11:51] <Geek`N`Proud> ah damn :(
[11:51] <mhiku> can someone know how to install php6 in apt-get or aptitude?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip1> mhiku: apt-cache search php6
[11:51] <ActionParsnip1> !php
[11:51] <Geek`N`Proud> mhiku, there is no PHP6 in the standard repos
[11:51] <msingh_> is there a way to install a specific version of a package. i want gstreamer 1.0.20 and 1.0.18 is installed.
[11:52] <InDaLivingRoom> flickering movies on hdtv with ati 4670, any help appreciated:)
[11:52] <Geek`N`Proud> msingh_, you need to make a package for that
[11:52] <ezerhoden> msingh_: apt-pinning
[11:52] <Geek`N`Proud> Ubuntu is not bleeding edge
[11:52] <msingh_> ezerhoden, i dont understand.
[11:52] <n2diy> ActionParsnip1: So, I'm supposed to tell my customers I "think" Ubuntu is more secure than Windows? That sells!
[11:53] <Geek`N`Proud> msingh_, apt-pinning allows you to pin specific packages from a repo to be installed
[11:53] <mhiku> whats the default ./configure apt-get uses so i can install php 6 in make
[11:53] <msingh_> how do i install it?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: its only as secure as its config
[11:53] <bazhang> !pinning
[11:53] <Geek`N`Proud> mhiku, ./configure --prefix=/usr should roundabout help you
[11:53] <mhiku> and i can intall php 6 successfully?
[11:53] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: good to see ya, may i adress you with a graphics problem,pls?
[11:53] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy, Windows is secure if you configure it right
[11:53] <mhiku> thank you
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: so you can only really say that, I could lock down a windows box loads then leave a linux box fully uncontrolled,which is more secure now?
[11:54] <n2diy> ActionParsnip1: Exactly, and I can't config Ubuntu, without exsposing it to the internet, it's a Catch-22
[11:54] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, please ask the channel :)
[11:54] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: been doing so:-/
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: well then you must draw your security line lower as it is currently unfeasibly high
[11:54] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy, it's secure-by-default when it comes to network services
[11:55] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy, only open service is avahi-daemon which ignores internet packets
[11:55] <Geek`N`Proud> and that service won't show on port scans
[11:55] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, as indalivingroom? is that you?
[11:55] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: your security solution is hugely unrealistic. Do you have a tinfoil hat too?
[11:55] <Firio> I tried to ask in #mysql , but they don't support infobot
[11:55] <Firio> Where shall i then try?
[11:56] <MindSpark> hi, is there any way to prevent the update manager to upgrade a package ?
[11:56] <Geek`N`Proud> Firio, http://www.missprint.org/infobot/
[11:56] <Geek`N`Proud> they will know for sure
[11:56] <Geek`N`Proud> =]
[11:56] <Geek`N`Proud> chances are info on setting it up is in their archives
[11:56] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: aye
[11:56] <ActionParsnip1> MindSpark: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412791
[11:57] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip1, thanks
[11:57] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, with compiz or no
[11:57] <Geek`N`Proud> MindSpark, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[11:57] <Geek`N`Proud> MindSpark, check out "Package Holding"
[11:57] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: with?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip1> MindSpark: the link in that link tells you exactly
[11:57] <remoteCTRL> you gotta be kiddin me...
[11:57] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, also which apps? totem, mplayer vlc?
[11:57] <n2diy> ActionParsnip1: no, the tin foil hat was ruined in the washing machine. A Google search of Ubunty Security reveals numerous vulnerablities, I'm just trying to lock down a virgin install of Hardy, and I can't do it securely.
[11:57] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: all of them
[11:57] <creative83> Upgrade information from 7.04 to 7.10 on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades doesn't work
[11:57] <reanimation> #ubuntu-in
[11:57] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy, what vulnerabilities?
[11:58] <bazhang> n2diy, then remaster with it in
[11:58] <bazhang> !remaster > n2diy
[11:58] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: there are vulnerabilities in all OSes, look at the windows list. Its massive as well
[11:58] <Enissay> Is there any apps that take care of HDD: Defragmentation, cleaning, repairing errors.....?
[11:58] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip1, and Geek`N`Proud thanks ! checking'em out
[11:58] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: and MacOS is too
[11:58] <creative83> It still looks for  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports which doesn't exist anymore
[11:58] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy, most "vulnerabilities" aren't directly exploitable on a default install
[11:58] <Favorit> n2diy: googling for Ubuntu Security is about as useful as googling for "glimpses in time space continuum"
[11:58] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: remember the awesome song. Every OS sucks by 2 dead trolls in a baggie
[11:58] <Geek`N`Proud> heck.. with exception to IGMP.. most of Windows 98 isn't directly exploitable till you yourself do something
[11:59] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, you may wish to check fusion-icon, unless you need to do 3d cube while watching movie; one click and disabled, and vice versa
[11:59] <Firio> that site didn't help me much,Geek.. but thanks anyway
[11:59] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: you gotta be kiddn me its really gone after turning off compiz
[11:59] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: dunno how to thank you man i ben googling for hours now...
[12:00] <marathon> hello i need to search files and move them
[12:00] <marathon> is there any tools to do it
[12:00] <p1oooop> hey guys
[12:00] <marathon> i used search files but i cannot move
[12:00] <Favorit> n2diy: if you don't intend to have local users on your machine and generally use a nice firewall ruleset - I wish anyone luck breaking in
[12:00] <p1oooop> good news...
[12:00] <bazhang> creative83, did you change repos to old-releases.ubuntu ? should be listed on gutsyupgrades within that upgrade link
[12:00] <p1oooop> persistent works...
[12:01] <creative83> bazhang: Yes. They are old-releases now all.
[12:01] <p1oooop> you have to use home-rw
[12:01] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy:  you can update after install without the Internet you know
[12:01] <Geek`N`Proud> just as a thought
[12:01] <n2diy> ActionParsnip1: no, I never heard it, was B. Gates on lead vocals?
[12:01] <bazhang> creative83, and you updated the sources.list?
[12:01] <Favorit> what's the point of having a server without net connection? :P
[12:01] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: nope 2 guys, its a slate at allOSes cos they all crash and all have issues, its a chuckle
[12:01] <p1oooop> now I can't mount usb drive which is a good sign that its working
[12:01] <Geek`N`Proud> you can specify directories as repos in sources.list
[12:01] <creative83> bazhang: yes. I'm starting with a completely new sources.list now.
[12:02] <giaco_> how can I synchronize a local directory with an ftp folder?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip1> giaco_: i'd look into rsync
[12:02] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: i was thinking in direction refreshrate so i never thought about compiz...
[12:02] <giaco_> Acidic31, I've heard that rsync is needed on both ends
[12:03] <giaco_> aups
[12:03] <bazhang> remoteCTRL, glad its working now
[12:03] <MindSpark> is there a way to list all the held packages ?
[12:03] <giaco_> ActionParsnip1, *
[12:03] <ActionParsnip1> n2diy: so you get the system upgraded to the latest stuff. How does it sell a secure system. "look this system hasnt been on the web and its not been intruded. Isnt it secure"
[12:03] <n2diy> Favorit: my plan is to rescue/salvage old hardware, and put it back online. I'm paranoid about selling stuff as secure, when I'm not confident it is. But I guess I could give out free tin foil hats with each system?
[12:03] <Cherepok> hello
[12:03] <creative83> bazhang: It fails because it can't fetch Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com feisty-backports/main/debian-installer But I don't have such a line in sources.list
[12:03] <bazhang> n2diy, remaster with it in.
[12:03] <Favorit> n2diy: define secure
[12:03] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy, set it up with a basic IPTables setup
[12:03] <ActionParsnip1> MindSpark: try dpkg -l | grep <package you just held>   to see what its installed state is (left most colomn)
[12:04] <remoteCTRL> bazhang: yeah thanks once more, you made me a very happy man:D
[12:04] <Cherepok> wtf?
[12:04] <creative83> bazhang: So it must takes this information from somewhere else
[12:04] <Favorit> n2diy: security of a system is 99.9% dependant on the applications/services running on it and on the user behind the keyboard
[12:04] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip1, yes, but I meant listing ALL packages that are held
[12:04] <Cherepok> talk with me)
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> MindSpark: well oncewe know what that ONE looks like we can find the rest can't we
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | Cherepok
[12:04] <n2diy> Favorit: with chkrootkit, and rkhunter installed, from a local source, with a good sig.
[12:04] <quibbler> !ask|Cherepok:
[12:05] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy, do "netstat -anp" as root - it won't get p0wned right from the get-go
[12:05] <Geek`N`Proud> you update it
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> MindSpark: so if the 2 first chars are 'hh' (for example) we can run: dpkg -l | grep ^ll
[12:05] <Geek`N`Proud> then add a firewall if you're paranoid
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> MindSpark: and all the rest will be listed
[12:05] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: guess what
[12:05] <Favorit> n2diy: having tools that allow you detect that you already were comprimised is not security :)
[12:05] <Geek`N`Proud> (there's one built-in with the GNU/Linux kernel called IPTables)
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> p1oooop: snot?
[12:05] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: I got persistent to work
[12:05] <Favorit> n2diy: and local source of packages is no guarantee of security, since the packages are developed by other people and can contain holes of a size of london bridge
[12:05] <ActionParsnip1> p1oooop: persistant what?
[12:05] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip1, got it ! thanks again :)
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> MindSpark: np man
[12:06] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: turns out I needed to have the drive as home-rw
[12:06] <Geek`N`Proud> you can install SELinux with reference policy and prevent certain uses of mprotect() (stack as write+execute)
[12:06] <Favorit> n2diy: I think your solution would be to find you peace with your level of security, and don't exaggerate on it too much :)
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> p1oooop: funky stuff
[12:06] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: presistent mode
[12:06] <n2diy> Geek'N' Proud, I'll have to check that out.
[12:06] <GenDh_is> alo
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> p1oooop: oh like usb you mean?
[12:06] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: yes, it is funky...
[12:06] <Favorit> n2diy: then again, you have grsec, selinux, rbac, whatnot if you wanna tie it up more
[12:06] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: yup..
[12:06] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy, also, you can make policies for AppArmor with ease.. that is included with Ubuntu
[12:06] <Geek`N`Proud> CUPS is protected by default
[12:07] <n2diy> Favorit: Yes, that is why the new box is isolateted, I know it is still sterile.
[12:07] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: I can;t mount the drive but it blinks whileI work...
[12:07] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: which is a good sign its working
[12:07] <Favorit> n2diy: that's paranoia :)  which is easily fixable while having box on the net
[12:07] <ActionParsnip1> p1oooop: haha thats gotta get annoying. I hope you used ext2
[12:07] <Favorit> n2diy: allow outgoing connections, block ALL incoming
[12:07] <Favorit> n2diy: problem solved :)
[12:07] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: I believe I did
[12:07] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy, /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon stop <- you are now 100% immune to any inbound :P
[12:07] <ActionParsnip1> p1oooop: good as the journal gets hammered
[12:08] <Geek`N`Proud> unless the kernel has a flaw.. but then.. well
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> p1oooop: compared to the rest of the data
[12:08] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: Imma check
[12:08] <Favorit> although, what I always say - if you don't have paranoia it doesn't mean you're not being followed.
[12:09] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: yup... ex2
[12:09] <ActionParsnip1> p1oooop: good lad
[12:09] <p1oooop> it's mounted but not mounted at the same time
[12:09] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: what a paradox :)
[12:09] <D_likescookies> gmorning.
[12:09] <p1oooop> hey
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> afternoon D_likescookies
[12:10] <Favorit> grrr, advanced networking diagram in visia without loadbalancer stencil... rrraaargh
[12:10] <n2diy> Favorit:  Geek 'N' Proud, ok, let me rephrase the question? If I wanted to setup a Ubuntu honeypot, how would I do it?
[12:10] <Favorit> who knows a good diagramming application for ubuntu? :)
[12:10] <grobda24> My panels will not show after nautilus locked up and I had to forcibly exit. Will reinstalling panel restore them with my settings ?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> !info dia
[12:10] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy, install one of many apps designed for honeypotting
[12:11]  * grobda24 has searched the wiki and google.
[12:11] <Favorit> yeah, dia...
[12:11] <ActionParsnip1> Favorit: kolourpaint :D
[12:11] <p1oooop> anyone know a good AVR programming app for ubuntu?
[12:11] <Favorit> ActionParsnip1: euh ;) wanna draw my diagram for me? 300+ servers to depict :P
[12:11] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy, it's not that great of an idea though... Ubuntu when installed by default has only one service which can be contacted by the outside world... Avahi-Daemon
[12:11] <Anakin> I installed NVIDIA drivers in kubuntu 9.04 alfa 4 using the adept manager and after I restarted nothing happened.... if I edit xorg.conf manually the whole PC crashes when starting...
[12:11] <Geek`N`Proud> and that ignores outside packets
[12:11] <p1oooop> that uses the kanda interface
[12:11] <ActionParsnip1> Favorit: just use clouds dude
[12:12] <Favorit> ActionParsnip1: I wish i could, i wish i could :P
[12:12] <p1oooop> Favorit: use open office draw
[12:12] <ActionParsnip1> Favorit: or use clouds then define each further in a seperate document
[12:12] <Geek`N`Proud> Anakin, try using the NVIDIA Installer.. plus it's Alpha.. what would you expect
[12:12] <p1oooop> Favorit: it's an OK piece for diagrams
[12:12] <Favorit> ploom: for network diagrams?
[12:12] <Anakin> Geek`N`Proud: I also installed Debian Lenny this morning and I got the same problem :)
[12:13] <p1oooop> Favorit: oh... LOL
[12:13] <DeannaT2> grobda24, i go with strg+alt+backspack back to the start, wehn my panel is away, but there is an other way to get it back
[12:13] <p1oooop> Favorit: BTW, it's a 1
[12:13] <n2diy> Geek 'N' Proud what about shared memory, root ssh logins, and unrestricted su access? I've locked those down. Can't say I know what they are, but they are locked down now.
[12:13] <Geek`N`Proud> Anakin, use NVIDIA's latest drivers
[12:13] <Geek`N`Proud> LOL
[12:13] <n2diy> ++
[12:13] <Geek`N`Proud> SSH doesn't run by default
[12:13] <Anakin> Geek`N`Proud: will do that 10x
[12:14] <Geek`N`Proud> unrestricted su access?
[12:14] <p1oooop> busy today
[12:14] <Geek`N`Proud> nope.. root is disabled by default
[12:14] <ActionParsnip1> !root
[12:14] <D_likescookies> yea. quite a bit.
[12:14] <Geek`N`Proud> sudo allows you to elevate to root if you need to
[12:14] <p1oooop> not as busy as AC chat but likewise
[12:14] <D_likescookies> AC?
[12:14] <miguel> Hi
[12:14] <grobda24> DeannaT2, strg ?
[12:14] <p1oooop> a website
[12:15] <DeannaT2> ctrl. sry
[12:15] <D_likescookies> linky?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip1> AC are an awesome band
[12:15] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy, you are probably looking at ancient stuff there... Ubuntu doesn't run server processes (with exception to CUPS) on a desktop install
[12:15] <Guest28598> Is there anyway to force xrandr to use 1280x800 on LVDS and VGA displays? It used to work on ubuntu 8.04 but it is not working on 8.10
[12:15] <p1oooop> aquariacentral.com
[12:15] <ikonia> m1dn1ght: what about it ?
[12:15] <p1oooop> not a tech website... it's for fish... LOL
[12:15] <ActionParsnip1> Guest28598: add the resolution to xorg.conf
[12:15] <ikonia> p1oooop: why are you posting that here ?
[12:15] <D_likescookies> lol
[12:16] <p1oooop> ikonia: I was asked to
[12:16] <ActionParsnip1> oh boy
[12:16] <D_likescookies> I asked.
[12:16] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy, finally shared memory... shared memory is limited to the user the apps are running as
[12:16] <ActionParsnip1> ask him to format his pc
[12:16] <ActionParsnip1> ;)
[12:16] <ikonia> gents please take the offtopic stuff to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:16] <D_likescookies> wasn't expecting a fish site tho.
[12:16] <p1oooop> lol
[12:16] <p1oooop> sure action sure
[12:16] <Geek`N`Proud> n2diy, normal user cannot write to other user's shared memory
[12:16]  * Netcowboy is away: [ Probably not there , leave your messages ]
[12:16] <ikonia> !away > Netcowboy
[12:16] <p1oooop> I don't even have a hdd
[12:16] <ikonia> !give ikonia a test
[12:16]  * cosmo__ gives ikonia :ikonia!n=mattd@unaffiliated/ikonia PRIVMSG #ubuntu :+!give ikonia a test.
[12:16] <D_likescookies> smart move.
[12:17] <mblanch> I tried to force 1280x800 on x.org conf but it didn't obbey it
[12:17] <p1oooop> how the hack am I suppose to format it?
[12:17] <illumin8> Hello, in ubuntu 8.10 i can use gparted to set labels for partitions on a drive, is there a way to do that in 8.04?
[12:17] <Geek`N`Proud> and the only corner-cases are NVIDIA drivers and VMWare Workstation which use SYSVSHM
[12:17] <p1oooop> LOL
[12:17] <ikonia> p1oooop: please stop
[12:17] <p1oooop> ikonia: K...
[12:17] <Geek`N`Proud> but those are only exploitable once you've already been owned anyway :P
[12:17] <ActionParsnip1> !label |illumin8
[12:17] <Geek`N`Proud> so you're secure-by-default from all remote exploitation pretty much
[12:18] <illumin8> ActionParsnip1, Thanks yet again :)
[12:18] <rww> !enter > Geek`N`Proud
[12:18] <rww> !who > Geek`N`Proud
[12:18] <giaco_> how can I synchronize a local directory  and a remote ftp folder? (without ssh)
[12:18] <Geek`N`Proud> sorry rww: it's been a while >.>
[12:18] <creative83> Why is apt looking for feisty-backports/main/debian-installer even it's not in the sources.list? This causes do-release-upgrade to fail...
[12:18] <ActionParsnip1> giaco_: you could mount the ftp location as a local folder
[12:18] <Geek`N`Proud> (since breezy badger.. a while!)
[12:18] <homebrewcider> hey there, I'm running Xubuntu, I have a Canon MP610 printer/scanner, printer working okay, scanner not being recognized, sane is installed, don't know what to do next
[12:18] <ActionParsnip1> creative83: run: sudo apt-get update
[12:19] <p1oooop> giaco_: you can use the old copy and paste :D
[12:19] <ActionParsnip1> homebrewcider: canon have drivers for it on their website
[12:19] <giaco_> p1oooop, funny :-D
[12:19] <creative83> ActionParsnip1: Did that. It's looking for feisty-backports/main/debian-installer while updateing
[12:19] <rww> creative83: if apt-get update doesn't help, check that you don't have anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[12:19] <p1oooop> giaco_: thanks...
[12:19] <homebrewcider> they're installed but don't do sh**
[12:19] <ikonia> homebrewcider: if you can't use language without stars - don't use it
[12:19] <creative83> rww: There we go ;) Thx
[12:20] <p1oooop> giaco_: I think there may be a piece of software for that
[12:20] <simple|eeepc> sigh
[12:20] <ikonia> giaco_: would something like rsync work ?
[12:20] <xh> hi
[12:20] <simple|eeepc> i hate these really really really stupidly wierd errors
[12:20] <homebrewcider> the drivers are installed but don't seem to do anything
[12:21] <solexious> Ive installed delugefrom a .deb, but now the new version only comes as source. I have installed from source before but not sure what if any thing different to do when upgrading from a .deb install to a source install
[12:21] <ActionParsnip1> homebrewcider: then read the guide on how to istall, and please direct your speech so names highlight
[12:21] <simple|eeepc> i'm getting squashFS errors and drive io errors and random hangups
[12:21] <simple|eeepc> its deciding to just randomly fail
[12:21] <ikonia> solexious: the whole process is totally different
[12:21] <mblanch> Is there anyway to force xrandr to use 1280x800 on LVDS and VGA displays? It is displaying 1024x768 on both displays. It used to work on ubuntu 8.04 but it is not working on 8.10
[12:21] <giaco_> ikonia, as far as I've read rsync handles local to ssh or local to rsync synchronization, and I have just ftp
[12:21] <homebrewcider> "and please direct your speech so names highlight" what does that mean?
[12:22] <p1oooop> simple|eeepc: hmm...
[12:22] <Geek`N`Proud> homebrewcider: to type the nickname before the message :)
[12:22] <rww> solexious: there will probably be a deb on the PPA at https://launchpad.net/~deluge-team/+archive/ppa in a few days
[12:22] <ikonia> giaco_: cron job then
[12:22] <Geek`N`Proud> homebrewcider, like this :D
[12:22] <quibbler> !nick
[12:22] <solexious> rww, yes, just hoping toinstall sooner
[12:23] <grobda24> Hello again. I tried reinstalling gnome-panel ... but I still have no panels ! HELP ! How do I restore the panels ?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip1> homebrewcider: see how i write your name at the start of each line
[12:24] <illumin8> When installing Linux on a system which is better to use for speed, ext2 or ext3?
[12:24] <quibbler> grobda24:  after reinstall did you logout and in?
[12:24] <rww> solexious: 1.1.3 only came out 2 or 3 days ago. If you wait a couple of days for the PPA, you'll save yourself the hassle of having to install it from source, and the potential problems and conflicts.
[12:24] <p1oooop> giaco_: coarse you can map a it as a network drive on a windows machine
[12:24] <ActionParsnip1> homebrewcider: and see how my name highlights in your client, thats not anaccident
[12:24] <bdenning> illumin8: ext2 is faster but less robust
[12:24] <rww> illumin8: they'll both be about the same speed. only difference between ext2 and ext3 is that ext3 is journaled.
[12:24] <creative83> rww: Arrgh. do-release update always uncomments the line I'm commenting in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/prerequists-sources.list
[12:24] <bdenning> illumin8: I would advise ext3 if you care about your data
[12:24] <p1oooop> giaco_: then maybe rsync would work
[12:24] <solexious> rww, was yesterday, just a bit impatient
[12:24] <illumin8> ext3 it is :)
[12:25] <illumin8> bdenning, Thanks :)
[12:25] <DeannaT2> grobda24, gnome or xfce?
[12:25] <illumin8> rww, thanks
[12:25] <rww> solexious: apparently. Anyway, if you decide to waste your time compiling from source, remove the deluge package completely first.
[12:25] <giaco_> p1oooop, after that, I should find a program that traces the differences between files, like rsync. Yes, that could work... let me see
[12:25] <solexious> rww, thank you
[12:26] <p1oooop> giaco_: maybe
[12:26] <p1oooop> giaco_: I'm not entirely positive
[12:26] <rww> creative83: that's odd. To be honest, I'd recommend just removing any lines that aren't for official Ubuntu repositories (or copy-paste them to a file somewhere and move them back later). The upgrader gets unhappy if it sees them, even if they're commented.
[12:26] <grobda24> DeannaT2, gnome
[12:27] <creative83> rww: I'll try this...
[12:27] <DeannaT2> grobda24, you can try in terminal gnome-panel, then you get a new one, then log out, with luck you have it with next start
[12:27] <illumin8> Earlier i had a problem with fedora 10 overwriting my default grub menu, some of the people online at that time didnt know how to get grub to boot it. This line will allow Fedoras boot loader to boot if placed in grub. configfile (hd0,7)/boot/grub/grub.conf
[12:28] <creative83> rww: No chance. It's rewriting the file...
[12:28] <n2diy> Sorry, Firefox and X-chat-Gnome bailed on me. So is this page full of BS? This is what I'm trying to do: http://www.itsecurity.com/features/ubuntu-secure-install-resource/
[12:28] <p1oooop> giaco_: you have to go to add network place wizard on windows in order to do that
[12:28] <illumin8> Where (hdx,x) are determined by the user.
[12:28] <giaco_> p1oooop, but I've never talked about windows
[12:29] <p1oooop> LOL, really?
[12:29] <p1oooop> giaco_: ok.... windows DOES kindasuck alot
[12:29] <D_likescookies> kinda?
[12:29] <D_likescookies> haaaa.
[12:29] <giaco_> p1oooop, really, why should I ask in #ubuntu then?
[12:29] <D_likescookies> better. lol
[12:29] <CK-TECH> how to start/stop/restart ssh server
[12:29] <creative83> rww: Trying to hack it. Theres a file in the temporary directory of do-release-upgrade which contains the wrong repo...
[12:29] <ActionParsnip1> p1oooop: its got advantages, like awesome driver support
[12:29] <Geek`N`Proud> Windows is going backwards >.>
[12:29] <p1oooop> giaco_: LOL...
[12:30] <ActionParsnip1> CK-TECH: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[12:30] <Geek`N`Proud> CK-TECH, /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[12:30] <p1oooop> ActionParsnip1: I know... great driver support
[12:30] <grobda24> DeannaT2, YES ! <hugs> ... now I log out ?
[12:30] <Andre_H> Hi, is it possible to get jaunty-kernel running in intrepid?
[12:30] <giaco_> ok ok, but we're not talking about why my grandfather should use windows or not, we're talking about remote ftp
[12:30] <DeannaT2> yes,
[12:30] <p1oooop> giaco_: LOL
[12:30] <Geek`N`Proud> Andre_H, yes it is: get jaunty's kernel-source package
[12:30] <creative83> rww: Yeah. It's working now. Just had to edit that file and run ./gutsy instead of do-release-upgrade
[12:30] <Geek`N`Proud> you can use apt-pinning to keep it up to date
[12:30] <DeannaT2> grobda24, otherwise i think paneel is away when you close terminal
[12:31] <Weeltin> Hello.. Q: anyone here using cacti??
[12:31] <ActionParsnip1> !jaunty | Andre_H
[12:31] <p1oooop> giaco_: you can try connecting VIA connect to server
[12:31] <ActionParsnip1> !info cacti
[12:31] <Andre_H> Geek`N`Proud: then just compile source-pack?
[12:31] <Andre_H> ActionParsnip1: thx
[12:31] <p1oooop> giaco_: IDK how to sync from there
[12:32] <Mozillero> hi all
[12:33] <Geek`N`Proud> Andre_H, yush! :)
[12:33] <grobda24> DeannaT2, ok, trying restart ... at least I know I can start in terminal now.
[12:33] <DeannaT2> grobda24, ok good luck
[12:34] <illumin8> ActionParsnip1, Being rather new to linux i find myself lost alot in the linux versions of commands that im accustomed to in Windows. I just wanted to inform you that I really appreciate your help over the past few days.
[12:34] <Weeltin> im in need of help.. need to update rrdtool v1.2.19) to atleast v1.2.30
[12:35] <dukey> I have some problem with the adobe flashplayer 10 under ubuntu 8.10 64bit, the fullscreen mode doesn't work
[12:35] <Geek`N`Proud> Weeltin, you can either make your own package or nab one from +1 if there is one available
[12:35] <CK-TECH> why i cant open file over SSH but i can view ?
[12:36] <Geek`N`Proud> dukey, are you using 32-bit flashplayer or the 64-bit alpha flashplayer?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip1> illumin8: np man, who knows you could help me one day, it's what makes the world go round
[12:36] <Geek`N`Proud> (32-bit is the one Ubuntu uses by default)
[12:36] <dukey> Geek`N`Proud: I tried both.
[12:36] <Geek`N`Proud> ah hmmm
[12:36] <ActionParsnip1> illumin8: you can make aliases of commands if you really want but moving to a system without will blow yourr mind
[12:36] <n2diy> OK-TEO, no write permission?
[12:36] <Geek`N`Proud> dukey, that's something Adobe will need to answer I suspect
[12:37] <dukey> hm
[12:37] <dukey> yea.
[12:37] <Geek`N`Proud> welcome to the hell of proprietary software
[12:37] <CK-TECH> n2diy, u talk to me ? u mean chmod ?
[12:37] <syscall> wowo
[12:37] <dukey> I also tried gnash and swfdec, but they dont work either
[12:37] <Weeltin> Geek`N`Proud > problem.. i a total n00b, and have no idear how to make my own package and install it over the old
[12:37] <p1oooop> Geek`N`Proud: LOL
[12:37] <dukey> gnash dont play and swfdec freezes
[12:37] <n2diy> OK-TEO, yes, maybe chmod too?
[12:37] <Geek`N`Proud> dukey, yeah the free alternatives blow at the moment too
[12:38] <CK-TECH> n2diy, i dotn know how to chmod command
[12:38] <p1oooop> Geek`N`Proud: agreeable
[12:38] <Geek`N`Proud> CK-TECH, chmod 666 <-- everyone gets write permissions but not execute permissions
[12:39] <n2diy> CK-TECH: sorry, thought the C was an O. Sounds like a permission, or, as you suggest, ownership issue.
[12:39] <Geek`N`Proud> Weeltin, in that case you could manually install a newer version  (./configure --prefix=/usr && make && make install)
[12:39] <Weeltin> Geek`N`Proud, thanks.. will try..
[12:40] <grobda24> DeannaT2, yeah, thanks ... panel started :)
[12:40] <Geek`N`Proud> Weeltin, and you're not a n00b if you can compile software ;-p
[12:40] <DeannaT2> grobda24, fine :-)
[12:40] <ttyX> can someone tall me which gstreamer plugin set do i need to play wma files in exaile?
[12:41] <Geek`N`Proud> ttyX, you need Win32 Codecs I think
[12:41] <ttyX> I have it already and mplayer plays fine
[12:41] <kikokos> hi
[12:41] <illumin8> ttyX, i think wma files play in VLC player too
[12:41] <mhiku> how can i know the existing ./configure parameters of a certain package
[12:41] <ttyX> but i want exaile to play it
[12:41] <Geek`N`Proud> ttyX, I don't think there's a gstreamer wrapper for WMA
[12:41] <hbekel> mhiku: ./configure --help
[12:41] <mhiku> that installed by apt-get?
[12:41] <mhiku> i mean
[12:42] <Geek`N`Proud> since the use of Win32 Codecs by wrapper is questionable in terms of legality
[12:42] <Weeltin> Geek`N`Proud, i know.. "only" the second time im using linux (ubuntu) and this time it is to build a NOC
[12:42] <ttyX> ok what pack is needed or mp3 then
[12:42] <daughtree> my gawdd why am i still a virgin
[12:42] <kikokos> could anybody help,me? I try to mount samba folder (i want to browse and play music from amarok, from another machine)
[12:42] <kikokos> and i recive this
[12:42] <kikokos> http://wklej.org/id/54315/
[12:42]  * grobda24 ... bye Ubuntees !
[12:42] <Geek`N`Proud> ttyX, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:42] <mhiku> i installed apache 2 right? how do i know what did just apt-get do to compile apache
[12:42]  * p1oooop is tired
[12:42] <ActionParsnip1> !mp3 | ttyX
[12:42] <maxagaz> i can't access the code http://codepad.org/qgjwO497, could someone put it on pastebin.com for me please ?
[12:42] <Geek`N`Proud> ttyX, also take a look at http://www.medibuntu.org/ for *all* the multimedia codecs available
[12:43] <mhiku> how do i know the ./configure parameters apt-get did to install a software?
[12:43] <ttyX> I wish I could install them on debian :P
[12:43] <ActionParsnip1> maxagaz: http://pastebin.com/d5f259301
[12:43] <mhiku> not ./configure --help thats the list of options
[12:43] <sync350> maxagaz: http://pastebin.com/m68ff1971
[12:43] <sync350> aw, ActionParsnip1 beat me :P
[12:43] <n2diy> hiku, look at the config file?
[12:44] <mhiku> what is the config file
[12:44] <maxagaz> ActionParsnip1, sync350 : thanks a lot :)
[12:44] <mhiku> where can i find it
[12:45] <n2diy> hiku, probably "programname.config, or .configrc, or something similiar.
[12:45] <tich> i just installed vlc but it doesn't seem to blend with the rest of my desktop.  is there something i need to do to get it to use the desktop theme?
[12:46] <mhiku> where can i find that programname.config your telling, what folder, for example i installed php using apt-get, where can i find the config file to read it
[12:46] <Sarkie> Hi guys, I have this issue, do i need a patch as well or has it been applied? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14611
[12:46] <n2diy> hiku, locate php.config?
[12:47] <p1oooop> isn't it php.ini?
[12:47] <mhiku> nothing happens
[12:47] <ikonia> n2diy: php.ini
[12:47] <hay_ig2000> hi all, i want a visual keyboard program
[12:47] <kikokos> so :) anybody can look at this http://wklej.org/id/54315/ please
[12:47] <mhiku> no its not php.ini
[12:47] <p1oooop> hay_ig2000: did you try accessibility
[12:47] <mhiku> i need to know the parameters apt-get is using to install programs
[12:48] <ikonia> Sarkie: if you have that exact problem, then clearly the patch has not been applied or you would not have that problem
[12:48] <p1oooop> hay_ig2000: nvmd
[12:48] <ikonia> sphenxes: I suspect you don't have that actual problem, rather a miss-configuration on xorg
[12:48] <CK-TECH> i cant copy network file ? anyone help?
[12:48] <ikonia> CK-TECH: can you explain in more detail please
[12:49] <CK-TECH> ikonia, i using SSH but i can connect to the pc and view but i cant copy the file
[12:49] <mhiku> where can i find php.config
[12:49] <ttyX> can someone name the gui frontend that ubuntu uses for network configuration
[12:49] <hbekel> mhiku: look at debain/rules in the source pkg, it contains the configure options
[12:49] <ikonia> CK-TECH: what is the exact command your using
[12:49] <ikonia> mhiku: /etc/php.ini
[12:49] <p1oooop> laters guys
[12:49] <ikonia> Miouge: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[12:49] <p1oooop> I need to go to sleep
[12:49] <ikonia> mhiku: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[12:50] <hay_ig2000> p1oooop, how to get nvmd?
[12:50] <CK-TECH> ikonia, at menu  , places > connect to server > then i choose ssh and director
[12:50] <CK-TECH> directory
[12:50] <ikonia> CK-TECH: so your trying to map a network directory over ssh
[12:50] <p1oooop> hay_ig2000: NVMD? never mind
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> CK-TECH: could use filezilla
[12:50] <Miouge> ikonia, waahoo how did you get that i was working on this file ? :p
[12:50] <mhiku> i dont need php.ini, i was telling how did apt-get do the parameters of compiling
[12:50] <p1oooop> hay_ig2000: LOL, I forgot this is the ubuntu chatroom... LOL
[12:50] <ikonia> CK-TECH: I suspect you don't have permissions to connect to that server / permissions to access the directory
[12:50] <ikonia> Miouge: sorry
[12:50] <mhiku> i need to know those parameters
[12:50] <hay_ig2000> i thought it is a program :)
[12:51] <ikonia> mhiku: don't compile your own
[12:51] <ikonia> mhiku: use the version in the repos
[12:51] <p1oooop> hay_ig2000: maybe a program, not very likely tho
[12:51] <mhiku> i need to install php 6
[12:51] <CK-TECH> ikonia, how to set the permission ?
[12:51] <mhiku> and i need to know the parameters
[12:51] <ikonia> mhiku: then you don't have the parmaeters for php5
[12:51] <p1oooop> hay_ig2000: if it was, it would be a very hard to find program
[12:51] <ikonia> mhiku: you want php6 - and no-one "needs" php6 yet I'm not aware of an application that requires it
[12:51] <p1oooop> hay_ig2000: if you know what I mean
[12:51] <mhiku> il experiment on it
[12:52] <ikonia> !offtopic
[12:52] <hay_ig2000> i heard a program named viki..
[12:52] <mhiku> will i go there?
[12:52] <p1oooop> lemme try that
[12:52] <ikonia> mhiku: pardon ?
[12:52] <mhiku> i just want to know how apt-get config parameters are
[12:52] <marciorl> someone has knowledge of cluster?
[12:52] <mhiku> then i shut up
[12:52] <ikonia> mhiku: that's not how it works
[12:52] <ActionParsnip1> mhiku: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=758512
[12:52] <ikonia> mhiku: apt-get is not a compiler
[12:53] <p1oooop> ubottu: hi
[12:53] <Sarkie> ikonia: well I was not sure if its the patch or my xorg.conf error
[12:53] <mhiku> i will compile using make
[12:53] <p1oooop> ubottu: thanks
[12:53] <ikonia> p1oooop: stop messing around, I've asked you a few times now
[12:53] <mhiku> i need to know how apt-get config paramenters
[12:53] <ikonia> mhiku: apt-get is NOT a compiler
[12:53] <mhiku> i know
[12:53] <mhiku> i will compile using make
[12:53] <p1oooop> ikonia:  mmmk, sorry
[12:53] <ikonia> mhiku: so you don't need anything form apt-get
[12:54] <mhiku> but i need to know how apt-get *do* to install softwares
[12:54] <ikonia> mhiku: you can't
[12:54] <mhiku> just to learn
[12:54] <ikonia> mhiku: it's not compiled
[12:54] <ikonia> mhiku: there is no php6 stable package
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> mhiku: you can download a deb and extract it to see its files
[12:54] <mhiku> i dont care, i just want to learn
[12:54] <ikonia> mhiku: you can only use that if the package is pre-built for y ou
[12:54] <hay_ig2000> any visual keyboard program?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> !info kvkbd
[12:55] <Dr_willis> hay_ig2000,  i think theres one or 2 in the repos.. 'osk' may be the name of one.
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> hay_ig2000: not sure in gnome, try apt-cache search keyboard | grep virt
[12:55] <mchelen> hey amygrace is spamming
[12:55] <n2diy> How important are these suggestions?  http://www.itsecurity.com/features/ubuntu-secure-install-resource/
[12:55] <mhiku> hmm i think <ActionParsnip1> is right
[12:55] <mhiku> thank you
[12:55] <ikonia> mchelen: where ?
[12:55] <marciorl> help me.....
[12:55] <marciorl> must build a cluster
[12:56] <ikonia> marciorl: cluster of what ?
[12:56] <abz> anyone, it's possile to install KDE4.2 on Hardy? via REPO ??
[12:56] <abz> thx . .
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> hay_ig2000: xvkbd is one solution
[12:56] <mchelen> ikonia, sent me message when i joined
[12:56] <marciorl> blender 3d!!
[12:56] <hay_ig2000> ok thanks all
[12:56] <p1oooop> hay_ig2000: I thin I found one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292611
[12:56] <keres> !spam amygrace
[12:56] <ActionParsnip1> abz: KDE 4.2 out http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[12:56] <marciorl> I got a great project
[12:56] <marius_ilina> hello ppl
[12:57] <abz> ActionParsnip1: ping
[12:57] <ActionParsnip1> abz: huh?
[12:57] <marius_ilina> I can't get ubuntu show the propper resolution after having connected the laptop to an external monitor
[12:57] <abz> ActionParsnip1: yes i knew . .
[12:58] <abz> ActionParsnip1: i have ubuntu hardy, but i want to install KDE 4.2 via repo? it's possible dude?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> abz: sure is
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> i think
[12:58] <abz> ActionParsnip1: wher
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> abz: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-install-kde-42/
[12:59] <Fiftyone> howdy all i was wondering i have been using linux off and on for years but i finally made it my only os. I spent some time themeing my desktop and stuff and i loved it now i want to do something else. Im not a noob but im not a 1337 guru... Where should i go next?
[12:59] <abz> ActionParsnip1: whew, i've googled for a week, and the result just 4 installing KDE4.1 . .
[12:59] <abz> L(
[12:59] <marius_ilina> it sais it's 1024 * 768 I need a greater one but I can't apply anything greater than that
[12:59] <ActionParsnip1> abz: i dont think hardy has 4.2
[12:59] <marius_ilina> what should I do to bring my resolution back to normal?
[12:59] <abz> ActionParsnip1: :(
[13:00] <n2diy> Fiftyone: http://www.itsecurity.com/features/ubuntu-secure-install-resource/
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> abz: here :D http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6360716
[13:00] <dimebar> abz: add this to your sources.list: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu hardy main
[13:00] <abz> marius_ilina: what's ur vga?
[13:00] <marius_ilina> how do I see that
[13:00] <abz> dimebar: it's not kde 4.2 dude . .
[13:01] <dimebar> abz: kde-nightly ?
[13:01] <abz> dimebar: no, i want KDE 4.2
[13:02] <D_likescookies> anyone can tell me if there's something like a webspider that downloads various types of files from a webserver for ubuntu?
[13:02] <marius_ilina> any idea of how I can set a greater resolution than the max allowed?
[13:02] <JackWinter> how do i repair my packaging system ?  output from pkg-config --debug: http://pastebin.com/d7c2fd481
[13:03] <Kloon> hey guys, say i dial 2 pppoe connections how do i make sure each connection gets same name everytime
[13:03] <mhiku> what does the name of the package of php 5?
[13:03] <Dr_willis> D_likescookies,  httptrack (i think is the right name, can do taht, wget perhaps also with the right optuions
[13:03] <mhiku> in apt-get
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> !find php5
[13:03] <D_likescookies> ty Dr_Willis gonna try it.
[13:03] <benjaminweber> hey
[13:04] <kikokos> hmm anybody of you, use amarok for play mp3 from another machine via samba?
[13:04] <benjaminweber> lighttpd does not start if I call it with /etc/init.d/lighttpd start on ubuntu intrepid :(
[13:04] <benjaminweber> no information in any logfile about errors
[13:04] <Arjuna> hello, network works only for pinging cannot use firefox on port 80
[13:04] <elvirolo> hi everyone
[13:04] <benjaminweber> what else can I check?
[13:04] <Fiftyone> n2diy basically now i have a good grasp on my linux system i know alot of commamdline i delt with all,kind of issues i really enjoied themeinf and personalizing my system now i dont know what tto learn next.
[13:05] <n2diy> Fiftyone: did you check out the webpage I suggested?
[13:05] <elvirolo> i'm trying to install jaunty to test it, but the prob is I don't have any blank cd's, just an external hd... so i used unetbootin to make the second partition bootable, containing the jaunty install cd, but it won't boot from it
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> benjaminweber: in its conf file enable logging and read its logs that it creates
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> !jaunty | elvirolo
[13:06] <marius_ilina> ppl help
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | marius_ilina
[13:06] <abz> !lxde
[13:06] <abz> !xfce
[13:06] <steven> Hi I'm having some trouble with my filesystem, I'm unable to boot up because most of my directories in '/' have a "Stale NFS file handle", though I don't use NFS, is there any way to fix this?
[13:06] <Dr_willis> !find lxde
[13:06] <ActionParsnip1> !info lxde
[13:06] <Dr_willis> lxde is in the repos :) so is xfce
[13:06] <int256> i have a 22gb partition in my hdd. filesystem is msdos. how can i change it to NTFS
[13:06] <Fiftyone> hey will tje next lubuntu distro use the newest debian release??
[13:06] <benjaminweber> logging is enabled, ActionParsnip1
[13:06] <abz> owh
[13:07] <Dr_willis> int256,  and keep the data?
[13:07] <int256> Dr_willis: ya
[13:07] <D_likescookies> Dr_Willis no amd64 version of httptrack but ty anyway.
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> int256: format it AFTER you copy all the data to another partition
[13:07] <benjaminweber> server.errorlog            = "/var/log/lighttpd/error.log", the thing is that I'm working with server.chroot but that should not affect my problem?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> int256: you'll need something like ntfstools
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> !info ntfstools
[13:07] <engemec> hi! Good morning!
[13:08] <int256> ActionParsnip1: no way to format without data loss
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> int256: no as formatting will wipe the data as the structure will change
[13:08] <Dr_willis> int256,  good luck with that. I dont think its possible. partition magic MIGHT be able to do that..  but even then.. I would backup the data befor trying it.
[13:09] <int256> does a linux version of partition magic is available
[13:09] <engemec> Well...., i using 8.04 and i would like to update to 8.10. is it recommended?
[13:09] <Dr_willis> D_likescookies,  I just installed the 64bit version here....
[13:10] <Dr_willis> D_likescookies,  Unpacking httrack (from .../httrack_3.42.3-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb) ...
[13:10] <tux> hey im having issues streaming a .asx file with vlc player, it used to work
[13:10] <Arjuna> hello, internet works only for echo reply. route is through link-local, may be problem here?
[13:10] <Dr_willis> !info  webhttrack
[13:10] <ActionParsnip1> int256: theres gparted
[13:10] <n2diy> engemec: why, you get three years of supportwith 8.04, and only 6 months with 8.10? But you can do it if you want to.
[13:10] <int256> ActionParsnip1: ok
[13:11] <tux> the error is : file_.asx could not be opened because there is no associated helper application etc..
[13:11] <Fiftyone> will the next ubuntu release use the newly released lenny debian? Also what are the advantages of ubuntu over debian if i wanted to try it out
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> tux: open it with vlc
[13:11] <Fiftyone> Of debian ovwr ubuntu i mean
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> !debian
[13:12] <int256> ActionParsnip1: how to install gparted
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> int256: guess
[13:12] <n2diy> Fiftyone: the big advantage of Ubuntu over Debian is the 1400 user here, in this support channel.
[13:12] <elvirolo> the same problem would apply to intrepid : how do i install ubuntu from an external hd ?
[13:12] <Fiftyone> I know what debian is
[13:12] <tux> ActionParsnip1, i did if you read my first sentence above
[13:12] <illumin8> int256, sudo apt-get install gparted
[13:12] <DIFH-iceroot> int256: sudo apt-get install gparted
[13:12] <tux> ActionParsnip1,  hey im having issues streaming a .asx file with vlc player, it used to work
[13:12] <engemec> n2diy: i would like to use gnome 2.24 and this is the unique solution. Do you agree?
[13:12] <Pici> Fiftyone: Please read the entire factoid from ubottu
[13:12] <tux> the link is http://live.heanet.ie/oireachtas/dail_broadband.asx
[13:12] <ActionParsnip1> trying to teach him to fish guys, stop throwing him trout
[13:12] <D_likescookies> Dr_Willis didn't see it. O-o ty again.
[13:13] <steven> Most of my directories in '/' have a "Stale NFS file handle", though I don't use NFS, is there any way to fix this?
[13:13] <illumin8> fair enough :)
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> Fiftyone: if you read the factoid there is a link on the differences
[13:13] <Lutfi> hi all
[13:13] <int256> ActionParsnip1: but it does to support formating to NTFS
[13:13] <ActionParsnip1> int256: if you install a few packages it does
[13:14] <int256> ActionParsnip1: which
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> int256: sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs
[13:14] <Fiftyone> ok i know the differencea there are many places to read about it, i want to know from people who have used both
[13:14] <n2diy> engemec: sorry, no I can't agree, I only use the LTS versions of Ubuntu, so I haven't explorered 8.10, or gnome 2.24.
[13:14] <illumin8> that was so tempting ActionParsnip1
[13:14] <Fiftyone> Thats why i asked
[13:14] <int256> ActionParsnip1: ok
[13:14] <the_holstar_> how do i set root password?
[13:14] <illumin8> since i saw that on the page i read lol
[13:14] <Dr_willis> D_likescookies,  its spelt funny :)
[13:14] <the_holstar_> i just installed ubuntu
[13:14] <kikokos> heej itry once again, could anybody
[13:14] <ActionParsnip1> Fiftyone: ive only used ubuntu, gentoo, mandriva, puppy and DSL
[13:14] <Pici> the_holstar_: Normally you don't use sudo instead.
[13:15] <DIFH-iceroot> the_holstar_: sudo passwd   but i dont know if you want this really
[13:15] <Pici> !sudo | the_holstar_
[13:15] <kikokos> show me fstab (if u use samba)?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> the_holstar_: you dont
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> !root | the_holstar_
[13:15] <Pici> !noroot | DIFH-iceroot the_holstar_
[13:15] <ActionParsnip1> Pici: i am nearly here 24/7 ;)
[13:15] <Pici> ActionParsnip1: Semantics :P
[13:15] <DIFH-iceroot> Pici: dont blame me, i was answering his question with a text which warns to use it
[13:16] <int256> ActionParsnip1: does it support formating to NTFS without data loss
[13:16] <Arjuna> wtf, internet works only for pinging and nothing more. 8.04
[13:16] <illumin8> Fiftyone,  I have debian 5.0 on a seperate partition, it allow you superb controll over the system and is customized based on your options installed. But ubuntu is far more user friendly and a good place to get your bearings
[13:16] <ActionParsnip1> int256: thats what we told you, you have to backup the data first, then convert, then write back
[13:16] <ActionParsnip1> Arjuna: can you ping names and ip addresses
[13:16] <int256> ok
[13:16] <Arjuna> yes
[13:17] <engemec> n2diy: Hum... this is my doubt. i like LTS versions and i had problems with releases versions, but.... i would like to test gnome 2.24 and not more. Thanks a lot. I'll continue using my 8.04 until 11.04.
[13:17] <presshere_> hi, i am searching a good network monitor, i need it to know who is communicating with my PC and their IP ... any suggestion?
[13:17] <Arjuna> dns works and routing but only for ping
[13:17] <Arjuna> i cant use apt or firefox
[13:17] <ActionParsnip1> Arjuna: can you telnet to: www.google.com 80
[13:17] <Arjuna> no
[13:17] <Arjuna> i tried allready
[13:17] <n2diy> engemec: fine business, that is my plan too.
[13:17] <illumin8> presshere, I believe wireshark would do that.
[13:17] <Arjuna> cant resolve www.google.com/80
[13:18] <ikonia> Arjuna: that's not a website
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> Arjuna: have you configured a firewall?
[13:18] <engemec> n2diy: did you use remastersys?
[13:18] <presshere_> illumin8 thx, i will try
[13:18] <ikonia> Arjuna: www.google.com 80 - not www.google.com/80
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> Arjuna: the port number needs a space not a /
[13:18] <n2diy> engemec: no, what is that?
[13:18] <Arjuna> i know
[13:18] <Arjuna> thats the output
[13:18] <MindSpark> did anyone get php5-ffmpeg to work from the repositories ?
[13:19] <engemec> With remastersys, you can create your recovery disk system automaticaly.
[13:19] <engemec> n2diy: With remastersys, you can create your recovery disk system automaticaly.
[13:19] <the_holstar_> $sudo passwd root would this command work?
[13:19] <ikonia> Arjuna: can you ping www.google.com
[13:19] <Arjuna> thats the output : could not resolve www.google.com
[13:19] <Arjuna> i can ping it
[13:19] <the_holstar_> to enable root`s password/
[13:19] <ActionParsnip1> Arjuna: ok so to clarify, you can ping IPs and Ping names which resolve successfully, but http traffic via firefox is no good and apt-getting is no good
[13:19] <ikonia> Arjuna: how can you ping a site you can't resolve
[13:19] <kikokos> do anybody know something about mounting samba files?
[13:19] <int256> when ever i install any software using apt-get command it says to download JDK documentation.
[13:20] <Arjuna> i can resolv only for ping
[13:20] <illumin8> the_holstar_, You should use sudo (command) instead of enableing root
[13:20] <lecta-fils> hi i've a question related NDOutils any exp here?
[13:20] <Arjuna> thats how it looks like here
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> lecta-fils: ask away
[13:20] <the_holstar_> illumin8 can you type an example
[13:20] <lecta-fils> thanks
[13:20] <the_holstar_> i have no clue
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> Arjuna: are you connected to a router?
[13:20] <Arjuna> yup
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> Arjuna: can yo http to that ?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> *you
[13:20] <illumin8> the_holstar_, Sure, to install say Wireshark type "sudo apt-get install wireshark" in terminal minus the quotes