[08:08] <dholbach> good morning
[11:11] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Anti-Corruption Day! :-D
[12:24] <boiko> hi guys, is there an API for using to save/restore the application state?
[12:51] <saleniex> Hi all!
[12:52] <saleniex> Does anyone know is there LTE supported in ModemManager using Dbus?
[16:37] <rickspencer3> Kaleo, so, I am not supposed to use ValueSelector because it is deprecated?
[16:39] <Kaleo> rickspencer3, correct
[16:40] <rickspencer3> Kaleo, what should I use instead?
[16:40] <Kaleo> rickspencer3, there are two options
[16:40] <rickspencer3> (no pun intended)
[16:41] <Kaleo> rickspencer3, :) I'm getting the links for you, hang on
[16:42] <Kaleo> rickspencer3, http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-13.10/qml/ui-toolkit/qml-components-components-listitems0-itemselector.html
[16:43] <rickspencer3> Kaleo, hmmm, what namespace is that in?
[16:43] <Kaleo> rickspencer3, ListItems
[16:43] <rickspencer3> ListItem.ItemSelector?
[16:43] <Kaleo> rickspencer3, yes
[16:43] <Kaleo> rickspencer3, the doc has a bug
[16:43] <Kaleo> rickspencer3, import Components.Components.ListItems 0.1 as ListItem
[16:43] <Kaleo> rickspencer3, should be
[16:44] <Kaleo> rickspencer3, import Ubuntu.Components.ListItems 0.1 as ListItem
[16:45] <rickspencer3> thanks Kaleo
[16:46] <untitled1> Hello there any time that I press the qt home button in qtcreator and then press develop it opens like 4 windows. Can I disable this or is it a bug ?
[16:53] <t1mp> rickspencer3: the online doc for that component is not up-to-date. Better check file:///usr/share/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/doc/html/qml-ubuntu-components-listitems0-itemselector.html
[16:54] <nerochiaro> om26er: do you know why when I get a Tabs object in an AP test I can't access its currentTab property ? it's because the property is of type "Tab" (i.e. an object ?)
[16:54] <rickspencer3> thanks t1mp
[16:55] <t1mp> nerochiaro: it is currentPage or selectedTab
[16:55] <t1mp> nerochiaro: ^ yeah not very consistent
[16:55] <nerochiaro> t1mp: selectedTab would be ok, but I can't access it in AP tests
[16:55] <nerochiaro> t1mp: AP tells me the property doesn't exist
[16:56] <t1mp> nerochiaro: is it null, or the property is not defined?
[16:56] <t1mp> nerochiaro: it is defined like this in Tabs:
[16:56] <t1mp>     readonly property Tab selectedTab: (selectedTabIndex < 0) || (tabsModel.count <= selectedTabIndex) ?
[16:56] <t1mp>                                            null : tabsModel.get(selectedTabIndex).tab
[16:57] <t1mp> nerochiaro: how do you get it? MainView.get_tabs from the emulators?
[16:57] <t1mp> nerochiaro: are you sure the result is a proper Tabs component?
[17:00] <nerochiaro> t1mp: no, MainView.select_many("Tabs").selectedTab
[17:00] <nerochiaro> sorry, select_single
[17:01] <nerochiaro> t1mp: the Tabs object I get is <ubuntuuitoolkit.emulators.Tabs object at 0x9cf780c>
[17:01] <nerochiaro> t1mp: so it seems proper
[17:02] <nerochiaro> t1mp: but it fails with this exception when i try to use selectedTab: AttributeError: Class 'Tabs' has no attribute 'selectedTab'.
[17:05] <untitled1> t1mp:  that dont lool right to me the property that is
[17:05] <untitled1> give a id to the Tabs and then use that in your property
[17:06] <t1mp> nerochiaro: I think that select_single will go wrong if there are multiple Tabs components around.
[17:06] <t1mp> nerochiaro: but if you have only one, that's not the problem here
[17:07] <untitled1> t1mp:  pastebin ?
[17:07] <untitled1> hard to read on this IRC client
[17:07] <t1mp> nerochiaro: the property is readonly. you could remove that from Tabs.qml to see if it makes any difference
[17:08] <t1mp> nerochiaro: but if that is the problem and you are not trying to write selectedTab, then its a weird bug.
[17:08] <t1mp> untitled1: are you nerochiaro ?
[17:09] <t1mp> untitled1: I only pasted the definition of selectedTab from Tabs.qml: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6546697/
[17:11] <untitled1> t1mp:  no I am not
[17:17] <nerochiaro> t1mp: i'm not untitled1 ;)
[17:17] <t1mp> nerochiaro: I wonder whether ubuntuuitoolkit.emulators.Tabs is the same as the Ubuntu.Components.Tabs instance, and not some python object
[17:17] <nerochiaro> t1mp: it's a problem in AP I guess. I seem to remember it could only serialize properties that are not objects
[17:17] <t1mp> elopio: ^ any ida?
[17:17] <t1mp> *idea
[17:17] <untitled1> nerochiaro:  consider your-self lucky :P
[17:18] <nerochiaro> untitled1: ;)
[17:18] <t1mp> nerochiaro: the same construction seems to work for toolbar tests
[17:18] <nerochiaro> t1mp: hmm, interesting. not really sure, but i worked around it for now. i'll fix it again if any AP experts can help me
[17:19] <t1mp> nerochiaro: can you print("tabs") in your tabs.onCompleted to compare the address?
[17:19] <nerochiaro> t1mp: for some reason i can't see the app's output in AP tests
[17:20] <nerochiaro> t1mp: on desktop
[17:25] <nerochiaro> greyback|london: when i stop an app via the shell, is it any different in terms of things the app will do to cleanup than when i send it a SIGTERM ?
[17:27] <greyback|london> nerochiaro: nothing I am aware of
[17:27] <nerochiaro> greyback|london: the StateSaver doesn't seem to do its job when i do that
[17:27] <nerochiaro> greyback|london: that = SIGTERM
[17:27] <greyback|london> nerochiaro: oops lemme check
[17:27] <untitled1> Hello there any time that I press the qt home button in qtcreator and then press develop it opens like 4 windows. Can I disable this or is it a bug ?
[17:28] <greyback|london> nerochiaro: ok I rely on upstart-app-launch to do the right thing.
[17:28] <untitled1> Or should I build a new creator ?
[17:29] <greyback|london> nerochiaro: did you try "upstart-app-launch <appId>" to start it, and "upstart-app-stop <appId>" ?
[17:29] <nerochiaro> greyback|london: i'm on desktop
[17:29] <untitled1> is the sdk tools still built into the creator (in the src) or is it in its own branch yet ?
[17:29] <greyback|london> nerochiaro: if you kill an app, it has no time to save its state. I doubt SDK has added a signal catch
[17:29] <nerochiaro> greyback|london: running unit tests
[17:29] <nerochiaro> er, AP tsts
[17:30] <nerochiaro> greyback|london: well, i need a way to verify that if i do something that gets saved by StateSaver, when the app comes back it will restore the state. in AP tests.
[17:30] <greyback|london> nerochiaro: ah, the lifecycle signals are sent via Mir, so that won't work on desktop
[17:30] <nerochiaro> greyback|london: what won't work ? not sure what are the lifecycle signals
[17:31] <greyback|london> nerochiaro: app needs time to save it's state. Usually shell sends a signal to the app (via Mir) to inform it "save state now as I'll SIGSTOP you in 3 seconds, and maybe kill you"
[17:31] <nerochiaro> greyback|london: so how do i sent that signal (on device) from an AP test ?
[17:32] <greyback|london> nerochiaro: I dunno. You'll need to ask the SDK guys probably
[17:32] <nerochiaro> t1mp: ^
[17:32] <nerochiaro> om26er: ^
[17:32] <greyback|london> nerochiaro: it's a legit question, sorry but it's not something I've needed to try yet
[17:33] <nerochiaro> greyback|london: no problem. also i think it would be wise for desktop if the SDK catches SIGINT and SIGTERM and goes the same thing as it would do when receiving this MIR signal
[17:35] <greyback|london> nerochiaro: I can't think of any obvious bad consequence to that idea. As long as there's a way to nuke an app (kill it, don't let it save state) then I think it's reasonable
[17:37] <untitled1> nerochiaro:  I would ask anything about AP to Nicholas Skaggs unless... you are him
[17:37] <nerochiaro> greyback|london: SIGKILL no ?
[17:37] <nerochiaro> untitled1: i'm not. what's his nick here ?
[17:37] <greyback|london> nerochiaro: yep
[17:37] <untitled1> nerochiaro:  not sure check on LP
[17:38] <untitled1> nerochiaro:  balloons
[17:38] <nerochiaro> greyback|london: ok, i'll talk to zsombi tomorrow and we'll see
[17:38] <greyback|london> nerochiaro: cool
[17:40]  * balloons hears something
[17:42] <nerochiaro> balloons: do you know if a property that is a QML object can be handled properly by AP ?
[17:44] <t1mp> nerochiaro: you want to send a signal from AP to your app that it's going to be killed?
[17:44] <t1mp> nerochiaro: I have no idea
[17:44] <nerochiaro> t1mp: no, i want to send a signal to my app so that it quits
[17:44] <nerochiaro> t1mp: in a way that StateSaver still does its job
[17:45] <balloons> nerochiaro, you can read properties with AP certainly
[17:45] <balloons> you want to set a property with AP?
[17:45] <nerochiaro> balloons: properties of any type ? or just of primitive types
[17:45] <nerochiaro> ?
[17:45] <t1mp> nerochiaro: best ask zsombi, he wrote the statesaver. but he's eod for today
[17:46] <nerochiaro> t1mp: will do tomorrow
[17:48] <balloons> nerochiaro, I think I may have ran into issues, but it's tough to remember. Easiest thing to do is simply try and see if it falls down.
[17:49] <nerochiaro> balloons: yes, it fails, the property isn't there
[17:49] <balloons> nerochiaro, I will say I just recently added an used a property, but it was a bool
[17:50] <nerochiaro> balloons:  anyways, time for me to EOD, I'll have another look tomorrow
[17:50] <nerochiaro> balloons: thanks for help so far
[17:50] <balloons> nerochiaro, I think you might be correct in that non-primitive types are an issue.
[17:50] <balloons> I have sinking feeling about it now
[17:50] <balloons> nerochiaro, cheers
[17:50] <nerochiaro> balloons: ah, ok. i have a workaround in that case, so no worries
[18:31] <nik90> t1mp: toolbar bug -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1256674
[18:31] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1256674 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Toolbar fades out even if submenu is opened on it" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:33] <daker> nik90: i just noticed that a few minutes ago :D
[18:34] <nik90> daker: I noticed that while using a popover on my app, but didnt get around to reporting it. So thanks to the O.
[18:34] <nik90> OP8
[18:34] <nik90> OP*
[19:52] <nik90> Can anyone in the room confirm bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1259290
[19:52] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1259290 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Popover does not autohide automatically when using a delegate" [Undecided,New]
[19:52] <nik90> it is related to the popover in a toolbar
[22:41] <daker> The new MDN looks absolutely amazing https://developer.mozilla.org
[22:56] <nik90> +1


[20:58] <Johnny1123> Hola, Szijastok, Witam, Nichao
[20:58] <arraybolt3[m]> Johnny1123: Hello! Anything we can help you with?
[21:01] <Johnny1123> In fact I'm with limited bandwith on the vessel, looking for net-tools (ifconfig) but seems like repositories are outdated. Can not connect to repository server after apt-get update. I would like to clone configuration of other computer in network to connect myself. Wifi is guarded by some kind of vpn/firewall with limited bandwith. Ethernet is not limited by bandwith - only by blacklisted type of sites. Is there any way to install tools with 40b
[21:01] <Johnny1123> bandwitch left?
[21:01] <Johnny1123> 40mb*
[21:02] <arraybolt3[m]> Johnny1123: What version of Lubuntu are you using?
[21:03] <arraybolt3[m]> (This might seem insignificant, but it is helpful for me to know how to answer your question.)
[21:06] <Johnny1124> 21.10
[21:06] <arraybolt3[m]> Johnny1124: OK, since you're badly bandwidth limited you won't be able to upgrade that, so let's put the old-releases repo into your sources.list
[21:07] <Johnny1124> @arraybolt3[m] 21.10
[21:07] <arraybolt3[m]> Johnny1124: Open a terminal with Ctrl+Alt+T, and run "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list".
[21:07] <Johnny1124> done
[21:07] <Johnny1124> deb cdrom:[Lubuntu 21.10 _Impish Indri_ - Release amd64 (20211012)]/ impish >
[21:07] <Johnny1124> deb http://c.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ impish main restricted universe mult>
[21:07] <Johnny1124> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ impish-security main restricted unive>
[21:07] <Johnny1124> deb http://c.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ impish-updates main restricted unive>
[21:07] <Johnny1124> deb http://c.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ impish-proposed universe multiverse >
[21:08] <arraybolt3[m]> Oy, copypasting stuff into IRC causes a bot to mute you, so you may be unable to talk for 60 seconds. Sorry about that, I'll keep telling you what to do in the meantime.
[21:08] <arraybolt3[m]> Johnny1124: OK, see all of those "http://c.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/" URLs? Change them so they all read "http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/".
[21:09] <arraybolt3[m]> Johnny1124: Do this to every URL in the file.
[21:09] <arraybolt3[m]> Johnny1124: Let me know when that's done once the bot unmutes you.
[21:10] <Johnny1124> Done. You are great.
[21:10] <Johnny1124> and now apt-get update, and install net-tools as I guess :)
[21:10] <arraybolt3[m]> Johnny1124: Nice. OK, now you should be able to do "sudo apt install net-tools" and be up and running. (Don't run an apt update, that will chew up tons of bandwidth.)
[21:11] <Johnny1124> Thanks!
[21:11] <arraybolt3[m]> Careful with the update! Don't wanna chew up bandwidth, you should be able to just get net-tools at this point.
[21:11] <arraybolt3[m]> No problem, glad to help! By the way, that version of Lubuntu is out of support, so once you get to a place where you can, back up your system and upgrade it so you stay secure.
[21:12] <arraybolt3[m]> (Obviously that's not a "now" thing since you've only got 40 mb of bandwidth, but whenever the opportunity presents itself, upgrading to 22.04 would be a good idea.)
[21:13] <arraybolt3[m]> Here's the instructions on how to upgrade: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades No need to open the link now, but just save the address somewhere since it will come in handy when you're ready to upgrade.
[21:15] <Johnny1124> Thank you for your time and support. I'm very greatful.
[21:16] <arraybolt3[m]> Very glad to help. OK, IRC pings the server every once in a while, so probably disconnect so you can conserve as much bandwidth as possible. If you ever need help again, let us know!
[21:16] <Johnny1124> :) ! Have a great day.


[21:43] <zipy> hey, when i am playing a video in vlc, how can i stream it in another format
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> rslarson,  you mean on the actual consoles?
[21:43] <Dr_Willis> rslarson,  alt-ctrl-f1 and so forth?
[21:44] <rslarson> not quite
[21:44] <rslarson> I can only accessd the physical machine via ssh so I use the screen comand to create multiple terminals
[21:45] <rslarson> I use screen -dmS ts3 su gameserver -c /home/gameserver/other/ts3/ts3server_minimal_runscript.sh to start the service
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> ZaW, Have you installed lm-sensors, and checked if you may be running hot.
[21:45] <Zakair> please help me, how can I change the picture of my login background screen?
[21:46] <Zakair> how can I change the background image of my login screen?
[21:46] <k1l> Zakair: it uses the background from the users wallpaper, iirc
[21:47] <Zakair> k1l: no it does not
[21:47] <Zakair> k1l: I use netrunner linux
[21:47] <Zakair> how do I change it
[21:47] <ZaW> ill have to check that out next time I boot into Ubuntu
[21:48] <rslarson> Zakair: this is the Ubuntu channel
[21:48] <ZaW> im running my winblows for some BF3 and Space Marine
[21:48] <k1l> Zakair: well, this is ubuntu support.
[21:48] <Zakair> netrunner linux is based on ubuntu, and uses their repository
[21:48] <Zakair> you can think of netrunner as ubuntu without unity
[21:48] <k1l> Zakair: come back if you have a ubuntu issue. thanks
[21:49] <Zakair> ok thnx
[21:49] <rslarson> any ideass?
[21:55] <Dr_Willis> rslarson,  its not really clear on what your issue is.. you run screen, it runs your TS3 server as a specific user..  so the problem is?
[21:56] <rslarson> Dr_Willis: I have three admins who need to access that screen and they all have their own accounts on the server.  How would I turn multiuser support on while start the process
[21:56] <rslarson> if at all possible
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> screen allows multi connections from differnt people i recall
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> I dident even think you had to have somthing like that running to admin ts3.  I thought most of the work can be done from the ts3 clients
[21:59] <DarwinSurvivor> Dr_Willis: I don't know if you can do that from different user accounts though, I *think* they all have to be signed in as the same user.
[21:59] <rslarson> It does but as I understand it, I need to go to each screen and turn on multiuser support each time a screen is created
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> ive seen screen used as a 'several people connected to the same shell' i belive.
[21:59] <Dr_Willis> screen has config files and settings. or you may want to look into tmux
[22:00] <rslarson> Will do
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> sounds to me like you may be doing it the hard way. if you have 3 'people' all using the same admin account.
[22:01] <Dr_Willis> ts3 supports multi-admins
[22:01] <milothebuthar> DWSR, thanks for nothing :)
[22:01] <menturi> Hello :D. Is there a way to check what currently installed packages depend on a given specific package?
[22:02] <Ace[Laptop]> hey can anyone explain to me the difference between "Install" and "command line install" on the mini.iso?
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> one installs the standrd desktop perhaps. other does not. would be my guess
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> desktop vs server install.
[22:03] <Ace[Laptop]> Dr_Willis: mini.iso does not install server or desktop
[22:04] <brontosaurusrex> menturi, apt-get depends something ?
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> Ace[Laptop], Is does the base system is the server.
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> and other options if you want
[22:04] <brontosaurusrex> menturi, actually its apt-cache depends something
[22:05] <Ace[Laptop]> wilee-nilee: the server install includes different a different kernel compared to a minimal install
[22:05] <rslarson> I was just using ts3 as an examaple... I have about 4 other services that I would like to implement this idea on
[22:06] <Ace[Laptop]> looks like I'll just hvae to experiment, since of course, there's no documentaiton about any of this
[22:06] <Sicp> I have this partioning layout, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19390574/partitioning.png  and now I need to install Windows alongside
[22:06] <abirspacemonkey> Hey,guys,I m facing some problem in 12.04.2 LTS
[22:06] <Sicp> I cannot edit the partition where /boot is because I have to unmount it first, but that's the partition that's holding the OS
[22:06] <menturi> brontosaurusrex: thank you; I think that one was it.
[22:06] <Sicp> what can I do?
[22:07] <abirspacemonkey> I've a quite low end apu E-450 with Radeon HD 6320
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> Ace[Laptop], you may be right, I had seen like a 1000 times on this channel that the base is basically the/ server
[22:07] <abirspacemonkey> I've fglx-update and fglx-plugins intalled.
[22:07] <Sicp> ah, I can run gparted from the LiveCD to do what I need
[22:07] <Sicp> thanks anyways
[22:08] <abirspacemonkey> Hello?
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> !patience > abirspacemonkey
[22:08] <Stripe> hi all, i am using an ubuntu based distro (linux lite) and am having problems with the composoting, i have disabled the xfce compositing, but cant seem to find the underlying compositing in ubuntu, any ideas on how to find or disable it would be great, cheers
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> Stripe, If it is not ubuntu it is not supported. ;)
[22:09] <Dr_Willis> plus theres no underlying compositing. its a feature of the window manager.
[22:10] <abirspacemonkey> HD 6320 only giving standard experience! can't enable 3D :(
[22:10] <Guest68364> hi guys, i just hit <Super>+P by a mistake and my nVidia X Server resets on every relog/reboot
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> Stripe, Try #linuxlite
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> abirspacemonkey,  what drivers are you using?
[22:10] <Stripe> wilee-nilee: sorry, i thought with the compositing being in the ubuntu base it was worth asking in here, thanks anyway :)
[22:10] <Dr_Willis> Stripe,  its not  in the ubuntu base as far as i know.
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> Stripe, Not saying you wont get help, just info. ;)
[22:11] <abirspacemonkey> Code- Command: glxinfo
[22:11] <SuperLag> fun fun fun... sorry the forums are down. :/
[22:11] <Stripe> no problem, thanks  again
[22:11] <abirspacemonkey> name of display 0.0
[22:12] <Guest68364> can anyone help me please?
[22:12] <abirspacemonkey> Yep,forums r down..:s
[22:12] <Guest68364> hi guys, i just hit <Super>+P by a mistake and my nVidia X Server resets on every relog/reboot
[22:12] <Guest68364> !
[22:12] <SuperLag> Is there any way to *permanently* disable the Mic Boost?
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> !patience > Guest68364
[22:12]  * Dr_Willis is not even sure what super-p does
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> me neither
[22:12] <abirspacemonkey> Guys,
[22:13] <Dr_Willis> and i definatly dont see how that would make the X server crash from then on.. if thats what hes saying
[22:13] <abirspacemonkey> Would kindly tell me how can I enable 3D acceleration?
 can you find it out?
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, Something to do with xrandr
[22:14] <Dr_Willis> abirspacemonkey,  for ati cards. you would noramally install the fglrx drivers
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> Guest68364, Something to do with xrandr
[22:14] <wilee-nilee> No idea whats up
[22:15] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/20113/how-to-stop-mod4-p-from-switching-the-display
[22:15] <abirspacemonkey> fglrx drivers do not give me full acceleration in my case
 what should i do? !
[22:15] <SuperLag> Guest68364: have patience? :)
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> Guest68364, pray
[22:15] <SuperLag> wilee-nilee: ^5
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> Guest68364, If we know we generally try to help.
[22:16] <abirspacemonkey> Major opcode of failed request:  155 (ATIFGLEXTENSION)
[22:16] <abirspacemonkey>   Minor opcode of failed request:  66 ()
[22:16] <abirspacemonkey>   Serial number of failed request:  13
[22:16] <abirspacemonkey>   Current serial number in output stream:  13
[22:16] <FloodBot1> abirspacemonkey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:16] <Dr_Willis> abirspacemonkey,  you are most likely out of luck then. i would be suprised if the open sourced ati drivers provided better 3d acell.
 waiting...
[22:17] <abirspacemonkey> did you see the codes I've just sent? @Dr_Willis
[22:17] <Dr_Willis> abirspacemonkey,  totally meanintless opcodes to me.
[22:18] <abirspacemonkey> why?
[22:18] <Dr_Willis> because i have no idea what they mean,
[22:18] <abirspacemonkey> Oh god!
[22:19] <Dr_Willis> i dont memorise opcode failure numbers.. actually i rarely use ati any more these days also.
[22:20] <lauri_> I can't run fglrx drivers in xubuntu 13.04 amd e-2200 with hd 7430 gfx chip
[22:21] <lauri_> can't log in if I install fglrx drivers
[22:21] <lauri_> any tip?
[22:21] <Dr_Willis> the login screen works? but the desktop does not? or clarify what happens that keeps you from logging in
[22:22] <lauri_> can't get into desktop, only to text based login
[22:22] <mozybonz> whoami
[22:22] <mozybonz> heh
[22:22] <lauri_> there was something about plymouthd or something like that
[22:22] <Guest68364> any solution?!
[22:22] <Dr_Willis> plymouth is what does the fancy animation at boot time.
[22:22] <abirspacemonkey> fglx drivers only let me choose 800*400 res
[22:23] <Dr_Willis> lauri_,  does  'startx' or 'sudo service lightdm start' work or show any errors?
[22:23] <lauri_> I tried to start lightdm, but I guess I had wrong command, ended into blank screen
[22:24] <lauri_> I tried sudo lightdm restart
[22:24] <k1l> lauri_: sudo restart lightdm (will do)
[22:25] <lauri_> it's weird since just last week my other laptop, that has the same cpu and gpu, worked fine with fglrx
[22:26] <Guest68364> k1l can you help me on this?
[22:26] <Dr_Willis> i cant even find any real hits on ANYTHING related to  '7430' ati video chip on askubuntu.com ;)
[22:26] <Guest68364> lauri_ ?
[22:26] <Guest68364> i just hit <Super>+P by a mistake and my nVidia X Server resets on every relog/reboo
[22:26] <econdudeawesome> howdy all. Having a hard time getting 12.04 to recognize I plugged in a printer. USB ports work fine it appears, I've tried numerous cables. What to do now?!?
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> Guest68364,  super-p toggles the internal/external displays it seems.. hit it again, and see if the monitor works? or try plugging in 2 monitors.
[22:27] <Dr_Willis> or see if it works for a newly made user.
[22:27] <k1l> Guest68364: super-p is resolution change, right? dont know what is going on then
[22:27] <brontosaurusrex> Guest68364, sudo nvidia-xconfig < does anything?
[22:28] <Guest68364> brontosaurusrex brb relog
[22:28] <Guest68364> Dr_Willis i have 2 monitors but all fucked up
[22:28] <Guest68364> and its on a mirror mode
[22:28] <eimajenthat> Okay, I've got a daemon (it's the New Relic MySQL monitoring plugin, but that's not super relevant).  It comes with a script that goes in /etc/init.d .  I've added that, so I can now start/stop it with sudo service newrelic-mysql-plugin start .  But what do I need to do to have it start on boot.  Is that enough?  Or do I need to edit some other config?
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> super-p is also the same as fn-F8 on many laptops it seems
 im on PC
[22:29] <Guest68364> brb check sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:29] <brontosaurusrex> eimajenthat, readin that script should give you clues
[22:31] <lauri_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[22:31] <lauri_> that's what I tried to use as guide
[22:31] <lauri_> I also noticed that I don't have xorg.conf
[22:31] <lauri_> is that still necessary?
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> xorg.conf is rarely needed these days
[22:32] <Dr_Willis> some of the settings tools do generate a minimal xorg.conf
[22:33] <eimajenthat> brontosaurusrex: but will Ubuntu (Upstart I guess?) just try to run the start command on everything in /etc/init.d/ during boot up, or is that configured elsewhere?
[22:33] <lauri_> k
[22:35] <brontosaurusrex> eimajenthat, ehm, actually not sure, so i will not say anything.
[22:36] <c_smith> Hi, I'm trying to get fglrx working on my Lenovo IdeaPad U400 (muxless pair of Intel and Radeon) and whenever I have fglrx installed with the stock X.org stack in 13.04, x.org segfaults. and with the xorg-edgers ppa, I get worse results (xorg crashes, and can't access a tty, so I have to chroot), is this a known problem? and is there even a workaround?
[22:36] <brontosaurusrex> eimajenthat, (it does work that way on debian)
[22:37] <lauri_> c_smith did that start just recently...?
[22:37] <c_smith> lauri_: been this way through the entire 13.04 cycle.
[22:37] <lauri_> ok
[22:37] <c_smith> worked with 12.10, but 12.10 is the first release I could install due to other previous problems that I fixed, namely figuring out UEFI,
[22:39] <c_smith> kinda doubting the fact that I'm using Kubuntu makes a difference, because Ubuntu and Kubuntu use the same x.org stack.
[22:39] <eimajenthat> hmm, looks like I might need to do update-rc.d
[22:39] <lauri_> I got pretty much same problem with xubuntu 13.04
[22:39] <c_smith> eimajenthat: give me a sec to get x.org installed to test that theory.
[22:40] <c_smith> *fglrx, not x.org
[22:40] <tgm4883> c_smith, not sure if it helps, but I've got a radeon 7600m and intel hd 4000 in my inspiron 14z and both sides of this hybrid graphics setup work great. I had to install the prop driver from amd though and also use a different xserver-xorg-video-intel package
[22:41] <tgm4883> 7650M it would seem
[22:41] <joshu_> hi guys what's meant by a "pressed image"?
[22:42] <tgm4883> joshu_, in regards to what?
[22:42] <tgm4883> we'll need a bit more context
[22:42] <lauri_> tgm4883, what do you mean by installing it from amd?
[22:43] <joshu_> I was speaking to someone yesterday and the conversation was about taking standard ubuntu stripping it down and then creating a pressed image of that stripped down version.
[22:43] <tgm4883> lauri_, I'm running the 13.6 beta driver from here  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[22:43] <c_smith> tgm4883: gonna try your solution
[22:44] <tgm4883> c_smith, lauri_ let me find the guide in case you need it
[22:44] <c_smith> tgm4883: as your setup is close to what I have.
[22:44] <tgm4883> c_smith, lauri_ http://askubuntu.com/questions/205112/how-do-i-get-amd-intel-hybrid-graphics-drivers-to-work
[22:44] <lauri_> ty, Ill check that out
[22:45] <tgm4883> joshu_, are you talking about a compressed image? Or a preseed image?
[22:45] <c_smith> tgm4883: following that guide now.
[22:45] <c_smith> I'll let you know if it works.
[22:45] <tgm4883> c_smith, lauri_ do either of you plan on gaming on the AMD side?
[22:45] <joshu_> tgm4883 the word used was "pressed" but perhaps that was a typo and "preseed" as you say is what the discussion was about
[22:46] <lauri_> I got some indie games from steam, and I use stellarium
[22:46] <lauri_> open source drivers are bad even in stellarium :(
[22:46] <c_smith> tgm4883: I constantly do so on my desktop (AMD Radeon HD 6670 with an AMD-FX CPU)
[22:46] <c_smith> the CPU is the Bulldozer line.
[22:46] <tgm4883> c_smith, lauri_ there is an input lag bug that is known and should be fixed in the next version. I've only noticed it in L4D2, and only when using the radeon card. The intel card works fine
[22:47] <tgm4883> joshu_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preseed
[22:48] <c_smith> tgm4883: haven't run into that with the machine I use for gaming (my desktop) but then again, that machine is only ever using the dedicated gpu.
[22:49] <c_smith> tgm4883: iirc, you frequented on the ubuntu-us-or channel, correct?
[22:49] <c_smith> offtopic there, i know.
[22:49] <danlamanna> i'm having serious fluctuation in free disk space, is there anyway I can monitor which processes are causing that?
[22:49] <c_smith> danlamanna: wouldn't the system monitor provide that?
[22:50] <c_smith> danlamanna: I may be wrong there (been using Kubuntu since I switched back to a 'Buntu base, and Arch or Gentoo before)
[22:51] <danlamanna> c_smith: it shows available disk space
[22:52] <czikson> hi can some one help me? i have a problem with a pen drive...
[22:52] <danlamanna> i actually think i've narrowed it down to mysql now though..
[22:52] <c_smith> danlamanna: cool.
[22:52] <holstein> czikson: you can format them with gparted.. otherwise, details are needed
[22:52] <Mathisen> hmm ubuntuforums.org >> Unfortunately the attackers have gotten every user's local username, password, and email address from the Ubuntu Forums database.
[22:52] <Mathisen> this dont sound good at all
[22:53] <c_smith> Mathisen: wow.
[22:53] <czikson> it is write protected... nothing works from what iv tested
[22:54] <Proxywars_> How would I go about fixing this Can't create '_build/runtime_params': Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/Module/Build/Notes.pm line 110.?
[22:54] <holstein> czikson: you can format it
[22:54] <czikson> no i can't when i try it dosnt work
[22:55] <c_smith> czikson: if it's write protected, you could try dd then (but be EXTREMELY careful, one wrong letter in the device name, and you could wipe out the contents of the internal   hard disk)
[22:55] <holstein> czikson: maybe the unit is damaged.. "doesnt work" isnt enough detail either
[22:55] <czikson> im using virtual machine so no worry but iv was trying dd and no luck tho..
[22:55] <holstein> czikson: no luck, in what way? what error messages?
[22:56] <c_smith> did that once, and wiped out 135GB worth of backed up storage, so I've learned to be careful with dd the hard way.
[22:56] <czikson> ill paste it in a sec
[22:56] <holstein> czikson: could be that you are trying to access it via VM incorrectly
[22:56] <lauri_> nice, the catalyst package from amd's site worked like a charm :)
[22:57] <lauri_> thanks for the tip!
[22:57] <lauri_> bb
[22:59] <HappyNewYear13> hello friends, what's the command to know what graphic driver i'm using?
[23:00] <HappyNewYear13> oh no the ubuntu forums are down
[23:00] <HappyNewYear13> help me
[23:00] <HappyNewYear13> plz
[23:01] <holstein> HappyNewYear13: lspci lists hardware.. be patient
[23:01] <zykotick9> HappyNewYear13: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log, or "lspci -vnvn" find the VGA section, and the "kernel driver in use" line for the VGA
[23:01] <HappyNewYear13> thank you very much holstein & zykotick9
[23:02] <czikson> holstein: may be... i'v fond some command on the ubuntu forum
[23:02] <czikson> but its i off now...
[23:03] <holstein> czikson: "some command" is not enough detail either
[23:04] <czikson> it was like dd if=/dev/zero (some thing like that) if=/dev/sdb/ bs=4096k
[23:04] <czikson> like that i can't remember now..
[23:04] <holstein> czikson: was the error permission related?
[23:04] <zykotick9> holstein: also notice the 2 if entries...
[23:04] <czikson> write protected thats all it was
[23:05] <zheka> hi here
[23:05] <zheka> http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/raw/398624/
[23:05] <holstein> czikson: dd is nicknamed "disk destroyer".. if you execute it properly, you will get it.. the write protection will not persist
[23:05]  * genii sips and ponders if sdb# was mounted at the time
[23:05] <holstein> czikson: you can delete the wrong drive.. you could have a bad USB, or you are having issues with VM..
[23:05] <czikson> could u  paste the command? i will try it
[23:06] <holstein> czikson: sure
[23:06] <holstein> czikson: man dd
[23:06] <holstein> czikson: you should read and share any errors that you encounter..
[23:06] <czikson> ok :)
[23:07] <zheka> hello anyone knows how to fix http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/raw/398624/
[23:07] <holstein> !patience | zykotick9
[23:07] <holstein> zheka: ^^
[23:08] <holstein> zykotick9: sorry for the tab-error
[23:08] <Kalimdor> resolution reset on reboot with nvidia x server but xorg saves data and it doesnt take any change after reboot
[23:08] <RobertBColton> hey guys
[23:08] <RobertBColton> listen
[23:08] <Kalimdor> solution?
[23:08] <RobertBColton> i have a craig electronics tablet device here that has android installed
[23:08] <RobertBColton> im wanting to install the ubuntu tablet beta os
[23:08] <nibbler_> !enter | RobertBColton
[23:08] <zykotick9> holstein: it did catch me a bit off guard orgianally - no problems ;)
[23:08] <holstein> Kalimdor: you write the xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:09] <RobertBColton> can anybody help? :(
[23:09] <czikson> this was the command on the forum : dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4096k
[23:09] <holstein> !tablet | RobertBColton
[23:09] <brontosaurusrex> mods; http://ubuntuforums.org/announce.html < this is pretty serious, perhaps some bot could advertise this from time to time? (especially the part about changing the passwords)
[23:09] <Kalimdor> holstein: i have a complete xorg.conf
[23:09] <RobertBColton> ok
[23:09] <picca> i always misread ubottu as saying … don't feel ignored … and make sure you repeat your question frequently lol
[23:09] <RobertBColton> holstein, im trying to get root right now without my sd card
[23:09] <zheka> guyz anyone knows?
[23:10] <Kalimdor> holstein: after the reboot xorg.conf still has the correct data
[23:10] <genii> RobertBColton: I'd check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices to see if it's being worked on. Also there is a channel #ubuntu-touch
[23:10] <RobertBColton> hmm
[23:10] <RobertBColton> idk
[23:10] <Kalimdor> holstein: but resolution resets
[23:10] <holstein> zheka: ERROR: Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing. ..is there a file there? are you sudo?
[23:10] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: i'd suggests starting the nvidia-settings utility with "gksudo nvidia-settings" and after making your changes, use the save to xorg button...
[23:10] <RobertBColton> genii, im using the Craig Electronics one, im not sure how popular they are, but they come in under 100$ so i know people have modified them, but for ubuntu idk
[23:11] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: read first.
[23:11] <Kalimdor> Xorg.conf has no problem at all
[23:11] <Mudack> then second
[23:11] <holstein> RobertBColton: try the tabletOS channel.. or a hardware channel.
[23:11] <czikson> @holstein @ubuntu:/home/czikson# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb             dd: opening ‘/dev/sdb’: Read-only file system
[23:11] <RobertBColton> holstein, what was the channel again?
[23:12] <holstein> !tablet | RobertBColton
[23:12] <zheka> sure i am sudo
[23:12] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: i'd guess, your theory is flawed... are you suggesting that Xorg isn't reading/applying xorg.conf's settings correctly?  that would be a major bug ;)  best of luck.
[23:12] <RobertBColton> holstein, thnak you
[23:12] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: i will paste
[23:13] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: don't bother.  i'm not following issue further.  best of luck.
[23:13]  * genii notes the uppercase X on Kalimdor's Xorg.conf
[23:13] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: you could mute
[23:13] <Kalimdor> holstein: any solution?
[23:14] <holstein> Kalimdor: what driver? the one from the repos?
[23:14] <Dr_Willis> you do run the nvidia-settings tool as root, to save to sysystem wide config, I belive if you run it as a user. it saves to a file in the users home. to allow per-user customizations
[23:15] <zheka> holstein: http://pastebin.com/1cmVMNz7
[23:16] <holstein> zheka: do you have a file there?
[23:16] <holstein> zheka: are you sudo? what tool are you using? what are you running to get that error?
[23:16] <Kalimdor> holstein: take a look here also please: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895632/
[23:17] <holstein> zheka: the error reads : ERROR: Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing.
[23:17] <zykotick9> holstein: re:zheka, /etc/X11/xorg.conf also needs root (aka sudo - OR in this case probably gksudo!) privs for writing
[23:17] <holstein> zheka: so, it cant be opened for reading.. why? is it there? do you have permission? other than that, ask whoever is maintaining whatever tool you are using
[23:17] <zheka> holstein: sudo nvidia-settings
[23:17] <czikson> holstein: it seys its write protected thats the only error
[23:17] <holstein> zheka: i just put it manually in place if the wizard fails
[23:18] <zykotick9> holstein: for writing, according to the error!
[23:18] <holstein> could be just not there yet
[23:19] <zheka> holstein: http://pastebin.com/ExqKmxRm
[23:19] <holstein> zheka: is there a file there? friend? do you actually have a file at that location?
[23:19] <kaddi> so what's the word on the hacking.. any inside news floating around here?
[23:20] <holstein> ERROR: Unable to open X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' for writing.
[23:20] <Kalimdor> holstein: tried all ways
[23:20] <zheka> bc gtk
[23:20] <zykotick9> zheka: fyi, i don't see your pastes, 'cause your using pastebin.com - ubuntu has a free one, there are other options as well - that doing have ads/tracking attached to them...  food for thought only - do whatever you want ;)  best of luck.
[23:20] <k1l> kaddi: #ubuntuforums
[23:20] <kaddi> ty
[23:21] <zykotick9> s/doing/don't/
[23:21] <zheka> zykotick9: where i shall to paste?
[23:21] <zykotick9> !paste
[23:21] <holstein> zheka: the location he mentioned.
[23:22] <holstein> zheka: is there a file located there? friend?
[23:22] <zheka> sure
[23:22] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: dont you look at mine?
[23:22] <Kalimdor> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895632/
[23:22] <zheka> holstein: sure
[23:22] <holstein> zheka: then, i would put it in manually.. dont use the tool.. or upate it and try
[23:23] <czikson> holstein: Unable to open /dev/sdb read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/sdb has been opened read-only.
[23:23] <zheka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895647/
[23:24] <Kalimdor> need help: resolution reset on reboot with nvidia x server but xorg saves data and it doesnt take any change after reboot
[23:24] <zheka> holstein: aww idk any commands for edit this file
[23:25] <zykotick9> zheka: can you rename your current xorg.conf to xorg.conf.my.backup or something, then use "gksudo nvidia-settings" to save a NEW file.  The Screen section doesn't seem correct somehow!
[23:25] <zykotick9> zheka: can you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log as well?
[23:26] <marcusLangley> list
[23:26] <zheka> zykotick9: sure, tryin
[23:26] <Kalimdor> lol no one knows that
[23:26] <Kalimdor> roflmao
[23:26] <Kalimdor> naps
[23:26] <zykotick9> zheka: EE lines in that log are badness ;)
[23:26] <hyprvx> Hello, I downloaded the 64-bit version of Ubuntu. Will the installer work on Intel 64 machines, even though the file is marked amd64?
[23:26] <checoimg> YEs it willl work
[23:27] <checoimg> AMD was the first to have 64 bit , that's why is called AMD
[23:27] <hyprvx> Thank you. One final question; space is limited on my destination computer, how much space will the installer take up?
[23:27] <zykotick9> !requirements
[23:27] <czikson> 5g
[23:28] <hyprvx> Again, thanks. I'm switching to Ubuntu because Windows eats up nearly the entire drive D:
[23:28] <checoimg> You need a Swap partition as big as your ram
[23:29] <zykotick9> hyprvx: honestly, i'd suggest 8-10GB for a normal ubuntu system (updating takes a lot of space, and if / runs out "houston, we have a problem" ;)  good luck.
[23:29] <hyprvx> zykotick9, the laptop has a 16GB SSD
[23:30] <checoimg> I think Ubuntu will take the more it can but I always control that instead of letting it automatically install
[23:30] <zykotick9> hyprvx: 16 SSD would be very cool for /
[23:30] <Proxywars_> How would I go about fixing this Can't create '_build/runtime_params': Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/Module/Build/Notes.pm line 110.?
[23:30] <zheka> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895656/
[23:30] <checoimg> Windows takes full 16 GB
[23:30] <nibbler_> Proxywars_: did you prepend sudo?
[23:30] <hyprvx> checoimg, exactly why I'm switching
[23:30] <checoimg> How much ram do you have ? 4 GB >
[23:31] <hyprvx> 2GB.
[23:31] <holstein> czikson: i would use a live CD to mount that locally, not read only..
[23:31] <zykotick9> Proxywars_: i'd suggest using alis to search for a perl channel
[23:31] <holstein> czikson: locally.. not passing through VM
[23:31] <czikson> allredy tried that
[23:31] <czikson> no luck
[23:31] <checoimg> Ok then the system will make a 2 GB swap partition
[23:31] <Proxywars_> zykotick9: How would I go about that, also this is for slic3r for repetier host
[23:31] <holstein> czikson: that?
[23:32] <zykotick9> !alis | Proxywars_
[23:32] <usr13> zheka: That's the same thing you posted last time.
[23:32] <holstein> czikson: could also be bad hardware
[23:32] <checoimg> so you have 14 GB to use for ubuntu and files
[23:32] <czikson> mounted the live cd and dd the usb isn't working write only error
[23:32] <czikson> i can enter the usb copy from it but noting else
[23:33] <holstein> czikson: you can, if you mount it properly, and use the proper permissions
[23:33] <zheka> ive removed and try again
[23:34] <zykotick9> czikson: "mount the live cd and dd the usb" what are you doing exactly? cause it doesn't sound right...
[23:34] <zheka> but i found backups trying to restart x`s
[23:34] <Rakyth> Hey, I need to pull a plaintext copy of a website--is there a Linux app/utility that can help me?
[23:35] <usr13> zheka: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+bug/1012851
[23:35] <czikson> sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1
[23:35] <czikson> mkfs.vfat 3.0.14 (23 Jan 2023)
[23:35] <czikson> mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdb1: Read-only file system
[23:35] <czikson> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=4M
[23:35] <czikson> dd: opening ‘/dev/sdb’: Read-only file system
[23:35] <zykotick9> Rakyth: look into elinks, links2 and their text export commands (you're gonna get different results per-browser, and per-page...) good luck.
[23:36] <zheka> in log i see error about gyk module
[23:36] <checoimg> !requirements | checoimg
[23:36] <zheka> gtk
[23:36] <usr13> zheka: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:36] <czikson> hdparm -r0 /dev/sdb
[23:36] <czikson> /dev/sdb:
[23:36] <czikson>  setting readonly to 0 (off)
[23:36] <czikson>  readonly      =  0 (off)
[23:36] <czikson> *@ubuntu:/home/*# sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1
[23:36] <FloodBot1> czikson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:36] <czikson> mkfs.vfat 3.0.14 (23 Jan 2023)
[23:37] <zheka> usr13: i want to stay on 10.04
[23:37] <alt93973> lool
[23:37] <Dr_Willis> czikson,  so is this a usb flash drive or a usb hard drive? or what exactly?
[23:37] <zykotick9> zheka: you can't stay on 10.04... it's over for desktops!  face facts.
[23:37] <Proxywars_> zykotick9: I believe this is a ubuntu problem due to permission problems not a perl issue
[23:37] <holstein> czikson: does it have a switch? on the actual device?
[23:37] <usr13> zheka: Ok.
[23:37] <SonikkuAmerica> czikson: While you're being +q'd, remember that you need to mount your filesystem somewhere else
[23:37] <usr13> zheka: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:37] <czikson> its sun disk cruzer slice 8g
[23:37] <Kalimdor> need help: resolution reset on reboot with nvidia x server but xorg.conf saves the data
[23:37] <holstein> well, you can stay on 10.04 as long as you like, but you dont get support for it here
[23:38] <SonikkuAmerica> czikson: (such as /mnt)
[23:38] <zykotick9> Proxywars_: possible, in which case you should be searching launchpad for bugs related to perl on ubuntu
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> czikson,  you sure sdb is the right device?
[23:38] <czikson> yes i know
[23:38] <czikson> yes it is i have only sda and sdb
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> sudo blkid should show the devices
[23:38] <czikson> sda hdd adb usb
[23:38] <czikson> sdb*
[23:38] <Dr_Willis> sounds like the usb is dead/failed - ive seen them die and get stuck in read only mode'
[23:39] <zykotick9> Proxywars_: i still suspect user error, over a bug...
[23:39] <Kalimdor> holstein: can you help me please?
[23:39] <Dr_Willis> czikson,  you were doing the dd command with sudo rights?
[23:39] <Proxywars_> zykotick9: Same, how would I go about getting permission to the file then?
[23:39] <czikson> yes
[23:39] <zheka> 2nd display is works for now but some icons on applet section at botoom right corner shows wrong
[23:40] <holstein> Kalimdor: are you running the driver from the repos?
[23:40] <georgij> Hi, does anyone how to get postfix working been trying for days. Lol. Everything seems to be working, SMTP(port 33), Courier-POP3, Courier-IMAP... But can't seem to retrieve remote emails like GMail, hotmail etc..
[23:40] <Kalimdor> holstein: idk how to find out that
[23:40] <holstein> Kalimdor: where did you get it?
[23:41] <Kalimdor> the driver?
[23:41] <holstein> !nvidia | Kalimdor this is what i always refer to.. you can see where to file a bug if you are finding a bug
[23:41] <l1ckr> does anyone know if xchat can be run on tor?
[23:41] <saiarcot895> l1ckr: yes
[23:41] <zykotick9> Proxywars_: and THAT's why i suggested you ask in a perl channel - this isn't straight unix/linux/posix permission issues, cause your getting a perl error - with permissions
[23:42] <saiarcot895> l1ckr: as to whether you can actually use IRC on tor depends on the network/server
[23:42] <l1ckr> ok...thanks
[23:42] <czikson> blkid out : /dev/sdb1: UUID="D012-CCF2" TYPE="vfat"
[23:42] <holstein> l1ckr: xchat is a chat client.. it will run, but the connection will be the issue
[23:42] <l1ckr> got ya
[23:42] <Rakyth> Zykotick9: thanks
[23:42] <zykotick9> Proxywars_: have you checked line XXX, to see what's there?
[23:43] <Kane274> Hi, does anyone here have experience with apt-cacher and vmbuilder ?
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> i think freenode has some sort of hidden tor server also. (or used to)
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> or hidden service. or however the tor term is called.
[23:43] <saiarcot895> Dr_Willis: still does; it's hidden service
[23:43] <Dr_Willis> i never really got into tor that much.
[23:44] <saiarcot895> Kane274: go ahead and ask your question
[23:44] <Proxywars_> zykotick9: That wouldn't really change anything as it's a permissions issue, I suspect chmod 777 would have helped but to no avail, I am a noob so I probably typd it wrong
[23:44] <Kalimdor> holstein: well the driver worked fine but since i hit the <Super>+P the resolution changed and stuck, i used that shortcut again and again to set to default but it doesnt change anything after reboot the xorg.conf contains the correct data, and nvida x server can change the resolution and save also but when i reboot, resolution resets to mirror dual monitors, here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895632/
[23:44] <zykotick9> Kane274: i failed to get vmbuilder to work.  and i'm a MUCH bigger fan of apt-cacher-ng then apt-cacher.  so best of luck is all i can say ;)
[23:44] <zheka> zykotick9: fixed by recover from backup xorg.conf, now other trouble
[23:44] <zykotick9> Proxywars_: but what's the error again - isn't there a line number mentioned?
[23:45] <Kane274> well I got vmbuilder to work. I don't need apt-cacher I would also consider using apt-cacher-ng :)
[23:46] <zheka> zykotick9: icons of wifi, keyboard layout, and xchat shows so wrong
[23:46] <zykotick9> Kane274: fyi, apt-cacher-ng supports multiple versions at the same time!  even multiple distributions.  apt-cacher is limited to one at a time.  downside is... i think apt-cacher might be somewhat more stable, i have run into problems at various times with apt-cacher-ng (where the solution was to delete the cache, which kinda defeats the whole purpose)
[23:47] <Kane274> I just want to know if it is possible to download like whole distributions into the proxy. I thought I mounted a CD and put all of its content into the proxy. But I don't know the link to access the distribution :/
[23:47] <AlexTheRealOne> Anyone plz help, How i open the Options from the Terminal?
[23:47] <Proxywars_> zykotick9: Can't create '_build/runtime_params': Permission denied at /usr/share/perl5/Module/Build/Notes.pm line 110.
[23:47] <zykotick9> Kane274: with apt-cacher-ng absolutely!  i install everything from mini (or debian netinst) and everything is proxied locally ;)
[23:48] <zipy> can i mount an dd image that has 2 partitions in it?
[23:48] <zykotick9> Kane274: and any other DEB based distros as well ;)  one of the first question in mini/netinst is proxy, and you just type in your local proxy and it's golden from there.
[23:49] <Kane274> wow ok, well that sounds very promising :) so I'll try the apt-cacher-ng! thx for the info! btw I read somewhere that the main difference is that the apt-cacher needs an apache and apt-cacher-ng doesnt. But it seems like it's much more ^^
[23:49] <zykotick9> Kane274: i don't think apt-cacher need apache (but i could be wrong)
[23:49] <AlexTheRealOne> How to open the Option from the Terminal? Is there a way? Unity Crashed after new Graphic Drivers, Compiz too
[23:50] <Kalimdor> is there any other resolution controller on OS that may disorders to nvidia x server if yes which and how to remove those
[23:50] <Kane274> Hmm maybe it was outdated info :) anyways, thx a lot for the help. I'm off to try apt-cacher-ng! yippie :D
[23:51] <zykotick9> Kane274: ya, neither apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng should require apache (or another webserver?) [well, at least not a debian system]
[23:52] <zykotick9> Kane274: on your clients, don't edit source.list/etc. just one line change to /etc/apt/apt.conf on all your clients!  makes it MUCH easier to manage!
[23:52] <Kalimdor> zykotick9 still ignoring me?
[23:53] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: well not "really" ;)  what's up - all on one line please.
[23:53] <Kane274> ok I will do that :) First goal is to get it to work with vmbuilder and then change the clients
[23:54] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: ;) is there any other resolution controller on OS that may be a disorder to nvidia x server if yes which and how to remove those
[23:55] <hector> is there any alternative to startup disk creator? it's broken.
[23:56] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: removing stuff is almost NEVER required on gnu/linux.  it's how you have it configured that's the issue.  SO resetting to defaults (which is almost never actually re-installing) is helpful, but just at the settings level.  what is the actual setting that's giving you problems?
[23:57] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: actually, before we continue - have you ever installed the driver downloaded from nvidia.com?
[23:57] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: the driver worked fine but since i hit the <Super>+P the resolution changed and stuck, i used that shortcut again and again to set to default but it doesnt change anything after reboot the xorg.conf contains the correct data, and nvida x server can change the resolution and save also but when i reboot, resolution resets to mirror dual monitors, here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895632/
[23:58] <zipy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895707/ <-- how can i mount the 2nd partition in this img
[23:58] <Kalimdor> zykotick9: both monitors will be on 1024x768
[23:59] <zykotick9> Kalimdor: i'm curious (i don't know what it means, but the "Option   "DynamicTwinView" "false" " means?
[23:59] <saban> is there any topic on web about hacked forum? that went down yesterday


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[09:47] <acheronuk> Riddell: why is this on KDE git? https://cgit.kde.org/kubuntu-notification-helper.git/
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[09:48] <Riddell> acheronuk: KDE is the original and best open source community making software for the end user.  it's the best place for the project to be hosted
[09:48] <acheronuk> our old bzr branch is behind that, and that KDE version is scarily actually the latest (-l10n changes)
[09:49] <acheronuk> Riddell: ok, I get the promo message. technical or other reason?
[09:50] <acheronuk> I don't overly care, but it is an oddity
[09:50] <Riddell> best place to host it, everyone gets commit access, translations come free, gives visability incase others want to see it
[09:51] <acheronuk> Riddell: ok. that is fair. thanks
[10:49] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:55] <BluesKaj> suddenly my login theme jpg file was replaced by the default on sddm and installing from file wants to unzip an uncompressed jpg , but password fails  ...soemthing really screwed up here
[12:56] <BluesKaj> on Artful
[13:01] <blaze> disc is full
[13:02] <blaze> probably
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[16:58] <acheronuk> Opinions please? https://phabricator.kde.org/T7394
[16:59] <acheronuk> I think it's high time we cut flash out of that ^^^
 +1
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[17:02] <mamarley> ^Something get staged?
[17:03] <acheronuk> mamarley: nope. just doing a bit of mass wrap-and-sort on the frameworks packaging, but nothing actually new
 Did I hear wrap-and-sort? 😁
[17:04] <mamarley> Ah, OK.
[17:18] <MichaelTunnell> acheronuk: I dont think eliminating flash while people still use it is a good idea
[17:18] <MichaelTunnell> how is this notification displayed and where is it displayed?
[17:25] <blaze> acheronuk: +1
 (Photo, 491x205) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/p9f0V0xP/file_3576.jpg
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[17:47] <ahoneybun> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1725169
[17:47] <ahoneybun> people have found a fix in there
[17:58] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: what? at no point on any upgrades I did, did a low latency kernel get installed!
[17:58] <ahoneybun> idk if it was there already or what
[19:15] <valorie> hmmm, I wonder how I would check to see if that was my problem on my failed install on this laptop's 3rd drive
[19:18] <shadeslayer> yofel: happy birthday btw :D
 OMG happy birthday yofel!!!
[19:18] <valorie> oooo, happy happy yofel!
[19:20] <acheronuk> Happy birthday yofel! :)
[19:20] <acheronuk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1728760
[19:20] <acheronuk> not just kubuntu ^^^^
[19:22] <valorie> huh
[19:22] <acheronuk> also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1725609
[19:22] <valorie> but this was a fresh install -- was that lowlatency kernel default?
[19:23] <acheronuk> valorie: may not have been your issue
[19:23] <valorie> hard to know without poking, which I have not
[19:23] <valorie> I switched to testing with my travel laptop instead
[19:25] <valorie> seemed one of the few ways to get the final testing on i386 done
[19:25] <valorie> which is making me lean towards not doing that for the LTS
[20:03] <MichaelTunnell> oh in that case, acheronuk yea that is a bit excessive. However, asking once isnt that bad imo
[20:06] <valorie> MichaelTunnell: but if you click on something that needs flash, the browser will tell you to install it
[20:06] <valorie> IMO that's the important bit - ensuring that that install is successful
[20:07] <valorie> because IMO they never are
[20:11] <MichaelTunnell> the firefox install doesnt use the package manager irrc and that is why there is a success/failure issue of the flash install.
[20:12] <valorie> well, we used to have a "firefox installer"
[20:12] <valorie> do we still?
[20:12] <valorie> not on this laptop but it's not a new install
[20:13] <MichaelTunnell> I think it is using the restricted-extras approach
[20:15] <acheronuk> It installs just flashplugin-installer
[20:25] <valorie> ah, yes that's what it was
[20:25] <valorie> now if only FF would use that to install flash
[20:28] <acheronuk> we would have to run with a patched firefox for KDE. that is too complicated to build, update, maintain, and do proper security due diligence on
[20:29] <valorie> agreed
[20:30] <valorie> and since flash is supposedly dying....
[20:40] <ronnoc> acheronuk: How do the Netrunner and Maui peeps handle Flash? They have the "mozilla-kde-support" package, but not sure if it addresses Flash or not. OTPBH it might be good to look at that package for Kubuntu for other headache-y reasons (proper save dialogues, etc.)
[20:48] <acheronuk> ronnoc: yes, but they still need a custom patched firefox build to use it with, IIRC
[20:48] <acheronuk> + no idea about flash on that
[20:49] <acheronuk> + no idea how FF 57 will impact that either
[20:53] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: see #ubuntu-release :P
[20:56] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: I am
[20:56] <acheronuk> ironically, at the moment I'm having to update flash to get into BBB!
[20:56] <acheronuk> grrrrrrrrrrrr
[20:58] <genii> Gotta love those Catch-22 moments
[21:09] <ronnoc> acheronuk: yea we'd be reliant on their FF release schedule, but really not being bleeding-edge is OK there. Besides, there's the Mozilla Team PPA for those seeking very latest releases. I tried FF 57 but personally not using Firefox these days for a few reasons. And yes, Flash needs to die a fiery, horrific death.
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