[12:32] <ero-jiji> hello all, just to verify if i use fsck without any options, it checks all drives correct? if not how would i go about checking 20 drives without having to go 1 by one?
[12:32] <YokoBR> ActionParsnip, no deal... rebooted and still no 3D :(
[12:34] <rumpe1> alinmear, hmm... /etc/motd (?)
[12:34] <Cybw0tee> alinmear _like a MOTD or what
[12:34] <sarthor> Hi, I need some linux based free opensource software for Cargo System that support multiple terminals, Any Idea??
[12:34] <_jmz_> can anyone help me out with hotlinking protection?  I have literally gone through 50 diff guides for mod_rewrite.  I even tried a python script but it just denies access to everything.  running ubuntu server with apache
[12:35] <sarthor> If this is not the appropriate channel for asking this kind of question. So please rediect me to the right place. Thanks.
[12:36] <Cybw0tee> http://www.howtogeek.com/104708/how-to-customize-ubuntus-message-of-the-day/
[12:37] <Cybw0tee> Alinmear if you explain more detail, I may be able to customize my reply to your question
[12:38] <Flyzoola> Jrib, I tried the 5 versions and all give me kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill innit
[12:38] <cookie1980> alinmear, did you mean a bashrc like script perhaps?
[12:39] <jrib> Flyzoola: boot a live cd
[12:39] <jrib> Flyzoola: and to be clear, you tried *recovery mode*, correct?
[12:39] <Guest34558> anyone have UDP DDOS script for linux ?
[12:39] <Guest34558> ?
[12:39] <alinmear> i want to open a terminal (urxvt) and  when the terminal spawns the should be some kind of text befor you can type some command
[12:39] <Flyzoola> I think I might be acr
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> YokoBR: yeah if you have a 2xxx to 4xxx GPU then you'll need the older driver
[12:40] <alinmear> similar to the archbang behaviour
[12:40] <alinmear> their you can open a terminal and the archlinux logo with some cpu specs pops up
[12:40] <YokoBR> ActionParsnip, but what about the hd 6310?
[12:40] <cookie1980> alinmear, what shell are you using?
[12:41] <Cybw0tee> sarthor whats your Q.
[12:41] <alinmear> i am using the bash shell at the moment
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> YokoBR: you can use the normal fglrx in the repos with that, the driver with the XOrg version in 12.10 causes issues
[12:41] <cookie1980> ok, edit ~/.bashrc and add at the end something like echo This is my cool text
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> alinmear: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[12:41] <Flyzoola> Jrib I think im Screwed, I tried recovery mode, got that message. My cd srive doeant work and my pc doeant boot through usb..
[12:42] <Carlinhos> My qt apps have huge scrollbars in Xfce: http://gyazo.com/822fb37274c312d9121a774dd575fd7f How can I get a more uniform look?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> FlyOnZeWall: can you boot to root recovery mode?
[12:42] <YokoBR> ActionParsnip, okay, i'll try that, thanks
[12:42] <Cybw0tee> yep its motd...the howtogeek.com link is nice for you Alinmear
[12:42] <sarthor> what piece of software I can use for Cargo business? Cybw0tee
[12:43] <Flyzoola> ActionParsnip, I dont know how to do that.
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: its all text so ANY video setup can show it :)
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: run the commands in the link I gave
[12:45] <yote> im using UbuntuStudio 12.10. How do i not encrypt my home directory.
[12:47] <Flyzoola> ActionParsnip, I need the link or ideally the command, as I'm on my phone and this is very hard
[12:47] <cookie1980> yote, try truecrypt
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure step 5
[12:49] <ero-jiji> hello all, just to verify if i use fsck without any options, it checks all drives correct? if not how would i go about checking 20 drives without having to go 1 by one? its a remote server that i only have ssh and ftp access to
[12:51] <cookie1980> it will check every entry from /etc/fstab
[12:52] <alinmear> now i can answer my question on my own! first the bashrc open a script called archbey in /usr/bin thats it
[12:52] <alinmear> thx for help
[12:52] <ero-jiji> @cookie thanks thats what i needed, so a simple shutdown -F -r should check them all on boot right?
[12:52] <alinmear> btw
[12:53] <cookie1980> ero-jiji, that´s correct
[12:54] <tbjr> I have 2 admin accounts but only one of the accounts can see the other partitions on the OS drive or the second harddrive I've installed.  I've started nautilus as root and tried changing the permissions of the volumes but they don't stay changed.
[12:54] <ero-jiji> @cookie awesome, i wanted to be sure before i screwed up the server and lost 8tb of crap lol
[12:54] <Flyzoola> Actionparsnip, it says "error 27" unrecognized command
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: at what point?
[12:55] <Flyzoola> Sudo grep -R proxy /etc/apt/* (first command)
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: that's fine, its just for innformation. Keep going
[12:58] <cnf> there really isn't a single nice irc client on linux, is there :/
[12:59] <tarzeau> irssi
[12:59] <tarzeau> yes there is, and it's better inside gnu screen
[12:59] <TuxLof> irssi
[12:59] <TheLordOfTime> cnf, irssi, xchat, there's quite a few others.
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> cnf: pidgin or irssi imho
[12:59] <cnf> TheLordOfTime: i said nice
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> cnf: define 'nice'
[12:59] <TheLordOfTime> cnf, nice is a relative term.
[12:59] <TuxLof> I find my irssi very nice
[12:59] <cnf> and screen isn't nice
[12:59] <TheLordOfTime> no two people have the same opinion on 'nice'
[12:59] <Pici> best
[12:59] <Pici> !best
[12:59] <tarzeau> screen is nice, except for nethack
[12:59] <Kaco> cnf, is there any nice app for Linux? :)
[12:59] <cnf> irssi is functional, not nice :P
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> cnf: pidgin uses the desktp theme
[13:00] <Flyzoola> Actionparsnip, same with second step. I replaced sudo for root and got unrecognized device string
[13:00] <Kaco> cnf, your only option is to move to OS X
[13:00] <cnf> Kaco: not a whole lot, no...
[13:00] <TuxLof> lol
[13:00] <rds__> hai guys , I want to solve this problem , the problem is I want to install a app from source when I tried to install that app it say that it need valac-0.16 but when I tried to install valac from terminal it is only installing valac-0.14 older version. Then I try to download the new version of valac-0.16 and try to install it , but it show the dependency is not satisfied  , but it is killing me when i install the next dependency they say it need another depende
[13:00] <rds__> ncy it is going like a loop so my question is , how can I install new version of a app that not in repo and including all dependency
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: root isn't a command
[13:00] <cnf> Kaco: at home, i have osx, at work i'm stuck with linux
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: you can simply omit sudo and it will run
[13:00] <TuxLof> Oh man that sucks
[13:00] <Kaco> cnf that's pretty bad :) ... bring your iPad to work :-D
[13:01] <cnf> Kaco: haha, i do!
[13:01] <cnf> it's right next to me
[13:01] <ero-jiji> cookie1980 thanks again, that got it.
[13:01] <Kaco> cnf, so why you no IRC on iPad? :)
[13:01] <TuxLof> http://www.andchat.net/
[13:01] <TuxLof> oh wait. that's android. nvm
[13:01] <cnf> Kaco: i do, just not all the time
[13:01] <Flyzoola> The commands don't work. I was using unu 8.04
[13:01] <cnf> anyway, zfs meeting, brb
[13:02] <YokoBR> ActionParsnip, fglrx didn't gave me 3D also :(
[13:02] <Flyzoola> Ub untu 8.04
[13:02] <cookie1980> ero-jiji, you're welcome
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> cnf: http://static.dossy.org/images/2007/08/pidgin-irc-chat-before-patch.png   is how I roll IRC
[13:03] <lumious> jrib, I mean that I change all my repositories from an LTS release to a regular release, and then update my system
[13:03] <Flyzoola> Looks like im screwed
[13:03] <MrMagic_> how do you change the close minimize and maximize from the left top corner to the right top corner? it makes me angry
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:05] <Flyzoola> Actionparsnip anything else I can do? :(
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: if you are using Unity, it makes sense to have ity on the left
[13:05] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, says precise but isn't there like a setting that you just change?  i
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: run each command but drop the word sudo from each command, that's all you have to do. ONe command will take a long time
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: yes, its just a setting
[13:06] <tbjr> do I need to change the permissions on a volume so that others logging on to the computer can see and mount them?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: http://askubuntu.com/questions/124015/window-controls-moved-to-right-hand-side
[13:07] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, fond it polesmoker
[13:07] <Flyzoola> actionparsnip, every command I use says its incorrect
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> tbjr: add the option:  user   in the entry you have for it in /etc/fstab
[13:07] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, trying to make me run cli commands dude heh
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: you must type it EXACTLY as given, with the spaces and so forth
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Flyzoola: dop you have web access in the root recovery console (try and ping <IP_ADDRESS>)?
[13:08] <vitimiti> (·_·)/
[13:08] <tbjr> ActionParsnip, otherwise it will only show up for the original admin account?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: there are many ways, the GUIs are just pretty GUIs to CLI, so why not
[13:08] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, one moment and I'll explain
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> tbjr: no, they will only be mountable by those that can use sudo
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/itdojo/ubuntu-1204-tweaks-re-enable-hibernate-move-the-window-buttons-more/3326
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/tips-and-tricks-ubuntu-after-installation-ubuntu-1204.htm
[13:09] <tbjr> ActionParsnip, It's not listed in the fstab but all volumes are automatically mounted in my (original) account
[13:09] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, what was the purpose of the first command you had me run? the solution seems to not depend on it
[13:10] <dr_willis> mounted on first access you mean.
[13:10] <Flyzoola> Actionparsnip, I have grub 1.5 those commands aren't working for me
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> tbjr: then you will need to define it in /etc/fstab if you want to use specific mount options
[13:10] <tbjr> dr_willis, yes
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: i haven't given a command, I gave URLs
[13:11] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, here is how the question should have gone "How do you change the buttons from left top corner to right?" "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout ':minimize,maximize,close'"
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: run that in a terminal and it should do it
[13:11] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, lsb-release -sc? heck is that for?
[13:11] <Chadmuck> hi
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: tells you the release name you are using
[13:11] <tbjr> ActionParsnip, ok I have a path to research now.  Thank you.
[13:12] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, you are a DN...and that rhymes with thumb trigger
[13:12] <dr_willis> if you want total control controll of mounting you want to use the fstab.
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> MrMagic954: I don't support or talk to racists, grow up and get an education please
[13:12] <tbjr> dr_willis, Thank you
[13:12] <MrMagic954> ActionParsnip, ok bone-in-the-nose-jig
[13:12] <TheLordOfTime> !attitude | MrMagic954
[13:13] <harrypotter2> hi...
[13:13] <compdoc> when I remove a drive thats mounted in fstab, the boot halts and waits until I press S to continue the boot. Any way to automat that, so it continues the boot on its own?
[13:14] <TheLordOfTime> compdoc, not put the drive in fstab?
[13:14] <fairuz> compdoc: remove the entry from fstab
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> compdoc: add the option:  noauto   you can add the command to mount the partition in /etc/rc.local and you should be ok
[13:14] <compdoc> if a drive fails and a server reboots, having it hang there forever isnt a good idea
[13:15] <harrypotter2> how to convert dynamic to basic hd
[13:15] <dunnicli> Mr_Magic - http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[13:15] <gastly> Hi, is it possible to install both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of a library?
[13:16] <TheLordOfTime> gastly, if you have a 64bit system, you should be able to do apt-get install libpackagename libpackagename:i386
[13:17] <gastly> TheLordOfTime, I'm having a problem with libncurses5-dev, I need both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of it but they both conflict
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> gastly: newer ubuntu releases are multiarch, so yes
[13:19] <gastly> AcidRain2012, If I install libncurses5-dev and libncurses5-dev:i386 there's a conflict between the two :
[13:19] <S0LIDUS> Anyone know of some good terminal system monitors?
[13:19] <InspectorCluseau> eject
[13:19] <InspectorCluseau> oops
[13:20] <tarzeau> S0LIDUS: htop? saidar?
[13:20] <S0LIDUS> tarzeau, Thank you :)
[13:21] <S0LIDUS> tarzeau, Is one better than the other?
[13:21] <Hellier> hi
[13:22] <Hellier> nfi if I am in or not
[13:22] <TheLordOfTime> Hellier, do you have a support question?
[13:23] <Paddy_NI> Hello I know this will sound silly but I have an nvidia gfx card and I would like to know if the recently improved drivers will work for me.. problem is I don't really know what card I have and I am not sure whether or not I should trust lspci..
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: which nvidia gpu do you have?
[13:23] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, I'm not really sure
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: lspci | grep -i vga   will tell you
[13:24] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, NVIDIA Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GS] (rev a1)
[13:25] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, this announcement "http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/Releases/NVIDIA-Delivers-Massive-Performance-Boost-to-Linux-Gaming-8ac.aspx" just seems to point to the downloads page... I am not sure which linux driver I am to download :-(
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: I think its 8xxx and higher if memory serves
[13:27] <Paddy_NI> The download page is very confusing especially when I am not really sure which I need
[13:30] <magesing> Hi, I've downloaded the .iso image for ubuntu 12.10, and I want to make a bootable usb stick, however, I am currently running an old version of Debian, is there somewhere I can download the "startup disk creator" app from? Alterantively are there instructions somewhere on how I can make a startup disk using command line tools? Thanks.
[13:30] <Erik_D> Paddy_NI: let me check the page
[13:31] <Erik_D> Paddy_NI: 32 or 64 bit?
[13:31] <Paddy_NI> 64 bit
[13:31] <Paddy_NI> I think I got it
[13:31] <auronandace> magesing: you can just dd the iso to the stick
[13:31] <Paddy_NI> I chose "geforce 7 series"
[13:31] <Erik_D> Paddy_NI: http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/304.64/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.64.run&lang=us&type=GeForce
[13:32] <dr_willis> magesing:  the pendrive linux site has tools also for that task
[13:32] <Paddy_NI> Erik_D, Awesome that is the one I grabbed :-)
[13:33] <Erik_D> Paddy_NI: cool. Good luck, those installers almost never work perfectly first time :P
[13:33] <dr_willis> the xswat ppa may have updatedc versiona in their repos
[13:34] <Erik_D> magesing: dd if=/location/of/isofile.iso of=/dev/whatever_your_usb_is
[13:34] <dr_willis> i thought there was older 310 experimental drivers in the addational-drivers tool
[13:35] <Paddy_NI> Erik_D, :-)
[13:35] <dr_willis> those may get updated sometime soon.
[13:36] <Paddy_NI> dr_willis, Huh.. are you telling me I can get this driver via ppa?
[13:36] <Erik_D> Probably, actually
[13:36] <Erik_D> it's from '09
[13:36] <Erik_D> so they've probably made their way in to repos
[13:36] <magesing> Erik_D: Thanks
[13:37] <dr_willis> Paddy_NI:  xswat, or addational-drivers MAY hav it. :) iver not looked
[13:37] <andrea_> hello, i'm trying to write a script w/ bash that kills a process if hits a threshold of CPU use. Could somebody help me?
[13:37] <Erik_D> Paddy_NI: I'm not sure what version is there though
[13:37] <sere84> why do i have 2 swap drives...does ubuntu use 2?
[13:37] <dr_willis> sere84:  you could have a dozen
[13:38] <dr_willis> if the swap partions are setup in fstab. it would use them both
[13:38] <Paddy_NI> okay well I shall return to this once I put a wash on and make some tea :-)
[13:38] <geekbri> andrea_: sounds like a usecase for something like monit/bluepill/god
[13:38] <TheLordOfTime> dr_willis, i thin the question is why're there two swap partitions
[13:39] <andrea_> geekbri: does bluepill have smth to do with virtualization?
[13:39] <dr_willis> i think output of 'sudo fdisk -l' would be handy
[13:39] <magesing> Erik_D: Do I need to do any special partitioning or formatting of the usb key before I dd the iso image over?
[13:39] <geekbri> andrea_: nah, its just a piece of software written in ruby that ensures a process is running and can also do process and memory checks on it.
[13:39] <dr_willis> magesing:  dd will totally erase the usb. so no
[13:39] <magesing> dr_willis: thanks
[13:39] <Erik_D> ^what he said
[13:40] <Erik_D> she?
[13:40] <Erik_D> ^what they said
[13:40] <dr_willis> magesing:  using a large usb is overkill also. i think a 2 gb is big ennough for the 12.10 iso
[13:40] <dr_willis> 1 gb - im not sure
[13:40] <Erik_D> 1 gb should be
[13:41] <Erik_D> I believe the iso is 800 mb
[13:41] <dr_willis> i dont evn own a 1gb any more. ;)
[13:41] <vril> can anyone tell me why ubuntu never utilizes its swap memory? lol
[13:41] <vril> i mean it never goes over 1GB of ram either.
[13:41] <Erik_D> vril: it does.
[13:41] <dr_willis> vril  its well written ;)
[13:41] <vril> i dont see it though, in system monitor
[13:41] <Erik_D> If you are are doing ram intensive stuff
[13:42] <vril> yeah i know how to do that Erik_D
[13:42] <vril> but im referring to the swap memory itself
[13:42] <vril> even when ive used up most of my ram, it doesnt show an increase in swap memory
[13:42] <vril> i feel as if the swap partition is just there for decoration lol
[13:43] <Erik_D> Why would you use swap when you have more ram to use?
[13:43] <vril> im accustomed to using a swap partition with any linux distro, from back in the day
[13:43] <Sidewinder> vril, I was under the impression, {mistaken?}, that swap was primarily used for hibernate/sleep types of modes, not sure though..
[13:43] <vril> im not asking to use it, im simply asking why does it keep showing up on 0bytes used for swap
[13:44] <vril> possibly Sidewinder; i did just leave my computer on all night
[13:44] <vril> Sidewinder, i was always under the impression that the swap partition was there to allow the OS to operate faster via virtual memory
[13:45] <KsM> no
[13:45] <dr_willis> swap is used for both.
[13:45] <dr_willis> the hibernate stuff is relatively new use for swap
[13:45] <dr_willis> !swap
[13:45] <vril> not that im a fan of such things, Simon Cray once said "would you rather be pulled by 2 oxens or 128 chickens", in reference to virtual memory
[13:45] <vril> lol
[13:46] <KsM> it's more like "I need the memory for right now and I can go buy more ram later"
[13:46] <dr_willis> 128 chickens will feed you better.  for longer...
[13:46] <vril> thanks dr_willis
[13:46] <Erik_D> vril: https://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space/
[13:46] <vril> im talking about being pulled
[13:46] <vril> like on a carriage
[13:46] <vril> its in reference to workload
[13:46] <Sidewinder> dr_willis, Interesting; I wasn't aware of that; thanks, once again, for your time and intuition. :)
[13:46] <vril> 128 chickens will just run around everywhere
[13:46] <vril> lol
[13:46] <dr_willis> so it 'depends on the task/kind of work'
[13:47] <vril> im sure its serves its purpose, ive just never seen it really being utilized
[13:47] <KsM> swap isn't all that slow, but it's typically memory that's not used often that get swapped out (iirc)
[13:47] <dr_willis> i dont evn see swap used on my 8gb ram system.
[13:48] <KsM> You shouldn't
[13:48] <dr_willis> just daily web/video/chat box
[13:48] <dr_willis> now lets not start arguening about swap at the start or end of the hard drive layout.     ;)   seen heated debates on that also
[13:49] <dr_willis> it always comes up.
[13:49] <dr_willis> good old days.
[13:49] <Gnome3man> Is the repositories up in ubuntu unable to do a update
[13:50] <dr_willis> Gnome3man:  worked for me about an hr ago
[13:50] <Gnome3man> dr_willis: will reboot computer might just be my wifi connection
[13:51] <Gnome3man> later
[13:51] <Gnome3man> :)
[13:52] <vril> if you're having a problem with updating you can always switch servers temporarily in synaptic
[13:52] <dr_willis> but...err.. irc is working? ;)
[13:52] <dr_willis> us servers seem to be up for me.
[13:52] <vril> the US ones ive never had a problem with
[13:53] <vril> okay so swap serves an actual good purpose
[13:53] <vril> thanks for the insight guys
[13:53] <vril> was just curious about it, i mean i knew what its meant for but not the whole thing
[13:53] <DarkSim> Everyday I'm learning something new about Linux
[13:53] <DarkSim> :D
[13:54] <vril> yeah
[13:54] <vril> i need to build a server to run Fedora more efficiently
[13:54] <magesing> My current system is set up on a software raid-1 array with seperate / and /home directories. When I run the installer for ubuntu 12.10, will it recognize my software RAID, or will I have to do some extra steps?
[13:54] <dr_willis> the more you learn. the more you learn you have more to learn......
[13:54] <DarkSim> I removed my DE while I was in it, not good
[13:54] <cnf> back!
[13:54] <vril> software raid-1?
[13:54] <magesing> vril: yes
[13:55] <magesing> vril: the mirrored raid, not the striping kind
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> DarkSim  ctrl-alt-F1, reinstall it or another DE
[13:55] <magesing> vril: mdadm
[13:55] <antithesis> Can /etc/apt/sources.list be used to  change all my repositories from an LTS release to a regular release, and then update my system
[13:56] <Paddy_NI> Okay this nvidia driver installer is complaining that X is running.. How do I stop my xserver ?
[13:56] <vril> magesing i think you have to do some command
[13:56] <vril> yeah
[13:56] <vril> you're doing it right with mdadm
[13:58] <vril> sudo service gdm stop
[13:58] <vril> makes sense
[13:58] <vril> to stop gdm
[13:58] <llutz> antithesis: it can, be sure to have a backup and be prepared that this might not work as you like
[13:58] <YokoBR> ActionParsnip, got some kind of 3D accel. with mesa drivers.. open source drivers, right?
[13:59] <Paddy_NI> vril, ah yes of course thanks you
[13:59] <antithesis> thx
[13:59] <vril> i just googled that Paddy_NI
[13:59] <vril> lol
[14:00] <vril> but it does make sense to stop gdm
[14:00] <vril> thats gnome :|
[14:01] <vril> yeah i like redhat compatible distributions more than debian-based ones but im more familiar with ubuntu than anything else
[14:01] <vril> i need to get a box for learning redhat seperately as part of a network environment
[14:01] <vril> since i primarily like using ubuntu as a PC OS
[14:01] <blackshirt> i likes both of them
[14:02] <vril> fedora runs kind of slow on this machine in comparison to ubuntu
[14:02] <TheLordOfTime> vril, or, virtualmachine it :P
[14:02] <vril> actually, not really
[14:02] <vril> i blame Gnome 3
[14:02] <vril> because im actually using backtrack5 with the ubuntu kernel lol
[14:02] <vril> nah, a vm wouldnt suffice
[14:02] <vril> i had them dualbooted
[14:02] <vril> but i want to start up some servers
[14:03] <TheLordOfTime> you're aware BT5 isnt on topic in this channel?
[14:03] <vril> fedora is very secure
[14:03] <vril> no, i wasnt? why?
[14:03] <vril> its a ubuntu-based distro, why would it be 'offtopic'
[14:03] <llutz> !backtrack | vril
[14:03] <TheLordOfTime> i'm trying to figure out whether you're just talking or actually have a point
[14:03] <STMelon> "based"
[14:03] <vril> im not asking for support on it
[14:03] <TheLordOfTime> vril, then what're you asking for?
[14:03] <llutz> !ot | vril  this might apply too
[14:04]  * TheLordOfTime has no backlogs, and deems your test offtopic, like llutz does.
[14:04] <lovre> hi all. i have a silly question. How do i access a network drive on another linux machine, from my linux machine?
[14:04] <blackshirt> what is zeitweis services ?
[14:04] <vril> i only use bt5 because its pretty much the only ubuntu out there with Gnome 2 as the GUI
[14:04] <kluejay> I want to image my netbook's hard drive to a file on an external drive. However the file should be encrypted. I should be able to decrypt and access the file on other computers if the netbook dies.
[14:04] <vril> Gnome 3 is a pain ;/
[14:04] <kernelhack> hi all.
[14:05] <alansaul_> is there anyway to get the nose generator to generate seperate tests? it's just lumping all the yields into one test for me so I can't see the specifics!
[14:05] <kluejay> Preferably, I want a mountable img file inside a truecrypt volume
[14:05] <blackshirt> zeitgeist ...sorry
[14:05] <blackshirt> is that really needed in desktop install ?
[14:06] <vril> make a backup and use truecrypt to encrypt the file
[14:06] <vril> :)
[14:07] <vril> i personally just encrypt a whole partition
[14:07] <vril> with truecrypt
[14:07] <vril> im not really hiding anything
[14:07] <blackshirt> hello
[14:07] <Tns> hello everyone
[14:07] <gordonjcp> kluejay: if you're going to encrypt, make sure you do a full backup every day
[14:07] <blackshirt> hello tns
[14:07] <gordonjcp> kluejay: if the netbook dies, it will be the hard drive that dies first
[14:07] <Tns> Am i true channel for developers ?
[14:08] <Paddy_NI> grr I had stopped my xserver "sudo service gdm stop" then I cd to my Downloads folder then "sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-304.64.run" and nothing happens it just hops to a new line awaiting input again ":~/Downloads$"
[14:08] <blackshirt> tns, i don't think so
[14:08] <blackshirt> tns, this channel was not for developer :d
[14:08] <Tns> i need to communicate with ubuntu developers but
[14:08] <kluejay> gordonjcp: The netbook, filesystem is mostly unencrypted.   It appears everytime i bootup and appears when i lock the screen. How do i turn off on screen keyboard permanently ?
[14:09] <vril> Paddy_NI, dont you just need to put in ./File.run
[14:09] <vril> instead of all that other stuff in the front
[14:09] <kluejay> gordonjcp: Ok, but how should I mount the dd image after wards. There are 3 partitions on the disk?
[14:09] <alansaul_> is there anyway to have nose generators work properly inside a unittest class?
[14:09] <Paddy_NI> vril, I tried that.. it fails
[14:09] <vril> chmod?
[14:09] <vril> chmod 077
[14:09] <Paddy_NI> hmm
[14:09] <TheLordOfTime> Tns, either the developers mailing list or /join #ubuntu-devel
[14:10] <InspectorCluseau> Paddy_NI, is it executable?
[14:10] <kluejay> gordonjcp: Also I would prefer an rsync kind of update as that would be faster.
[14:10] <gordonjcp> tbh the whole encryption thing in the installer is a bad idea
[14:10] <vril> if he chmod's it it should be executable
[14:10] <Paddy_NI> InspectorCluseau, Ah silly me
[14:10] <gordonjcp> I've never seen quite so many people really keen to lose all their data
[14:10] <InspectorCluseau> doh!
[14:10] <vril> gordonjcp, it depends on how sensitive the information is
[14:10] <vril> and ive decrypted my drive successfully with no problems
[14:11] <Sidewinder> BluesKaj, Good mornin', to you, sir. :)
[14:11] <vril> there's a mere chance of things fumbling for you for encrypting
[14:11] <blackshirt> good night here :d
[14:11] <vril> but the best way to go about it is, dont encrypt a hard drive
[14:11] <vril> encrypt the files
[14:11] <BluesKaj> 'Morning Sidewinder . How's things ?
[14:11] <magesing> Hi, I used dd to initialize a usb key with the latest ubuntu desktop iso image. I can mount the key and browse the files, however, the usb key is not bootable after the dd... do I need to install a bootloader on it or something?
[14:12] <Sidewinder> BluesKaj, Very fine, thank you. And you?
[14:12] <gordonjcp> vril: right but if your drive ever begins to go bad, that data is unrecoverable
[14:12] <vril> magesing, you used unetbootin?
[14:12] <kluejay> gordonjcp: The netbook is always with me and has a hardware password on its HDD. The external backup will be in my house which is kind of an abusive and difficult environment.  Would you mind a PM?
[14:13] <BluesKaj> doing fine as well , Sidewinder
[14:13] <vril> unetbootin is to boot up from usb for linux
[14:13] <vril> you can also use it with any other kind of ISO
[14:13] <BluesKaj> Sidewinder, sure
[14:13] <Sidewinder> Thanx..
[14:13] <magesing> vril: I'm  running a old version of debian, so I don't have the fancy ubuntu utility yet
[14:14] <FireStorms> Hey I'm trying to burn a collection of mp3 files onto a 700MB CD-R. I used Braser to create an "Audio Project" it created the ISO file which ended up being 800MB (100MB too large for the disk). I'm wondering if anyone knows away to shrink the ISO using Brasero or some other "burning" program?
[14:14] <kluejay> gordonjcp: So, its like the netbook is my only computer and its always with me. It contains lots of information that will be indispensable in the future, and should not be accessed by others. Thus I want an encrypted backup on external drive.
[14:14] <TheLordOfTime> FireStorms, if its an 800MB ISO, then you're trying to put too many files onto the disk at once.
[14:14] <vril> oh i see magesing you can still get unetbootin online
[14:15] <vril> it doesnt come with ubuntu regularly
[14:15] <vril> you need to do a sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[14:15] <KI4RO> .
[14:15] <FireStorms> TheLordOfTime, yes, it looks like it's going to be trial and error then which is a shame because I have a lot to do.
[14:15] <magesing> vril:  I'll give that a shot, thanks
[14:15] <vril> or compile it yourself :|
[14:15] <vril> no problem
[14:15] <FireStorms> I don't know if anyone has used Devede but it has an option to adjest the disk size but brasero does not
[14:15] <llutz> magesing: simply "cat foo.iso >/dev/sdX"
[14:18] <hardeep> hi
[14:18] <hardeep> am using kubuntu
[14:18] <hardeep> having problem connecting to net
[14:19] <hardeep> i have a tp-link router and usb adapter
[14:19] <bogor> hardeep: Is it usb dongle 3g/2g connection ?
[14:20] <hardeep> though the signal strenght is full it still doesn't connect
[14:20] <hardeep> can anybody help me
[14:21] <bogor> hardeep: I asked something, look above
[14:21] <hardeep> its a usb wifi adapter
[14:21] <hardeep> it is not connecting to the home router
[14:23] <hardeep> its a wifi adapter
[14:23] <hardeep> it is TL-WN723N
[14:24] <hardeep> though it is connecting to my phone via Wi fi
[14:26] <keith_> Do gnome3 and Unity have the same resolution restrictions based on the hardware? i.e. gnome3 completely fails with total resolution in excess of 2048 pixels, but gnome classic is fine
[14:26] <blackshirt> deve
[14:27] <magesing> vril: unetbootin is doing it's thing, thanks for pointing me to it
[14:33] <kluejay> gordonjcp: When I image the drive should I dd sda1 sda2 sda4 ... or dd sda
[14:33] <kluejay> gordonjcp: And how should I mount the resulting image?
[14:34] <jrib> antithesis: editing sources.list is not a supported way to upgrade.  See ubottu
[14:34] <jrib> !upgrade | antithesis
[14:35] <janet> I wonder how long it would take to run an internet-wide port scan
[14:37] <Touhou11> janet: Depends if you include IPv6 addresses
[14:37] <antithesis> Thanks jrib. Though I actually asked that to get an understanding of sources.list and aptitude
[14:38] <gugurang> Hi, my ubuntu stops at boot time after the logo with the dots below... but when i rstart and choose recovery menu, then choose resume boot, it works... but with lower resolution... anyone?
[14:40] <Touhou11> gugurang: Do your system log files/dmesg etc. suggest any issues?
[14:40] <jrib> antithesis: ok.  In the past (and in debian) that's the way to upgrade.  But update-manager does some extra checking to make sure the update runs smoother
[14:42] <AdvoWork> If i have 2 users who ftp in and upload files, all files were originally owned by root(which has been disabled) so now there is UserA, UserB. The way to allow them to upload files has been to do: chown usera:usera file and they can then upload, but the problem exists because userB can then not upload. Is there a way to allow both users to do it, is it a case of setting up a group?
[14:42] <jrib> AdvoWork: sounds like you'd want to setup a group
[14:43] <Gmind> hi
[14:44] <Gmind> anyone encounter the connection problem on TP LInk Modem ?
[14:45] <taha_> i do. i am not sure it is about TP Link though. I forwarded 8001 port, so here I am.
[14:46] <Gmind> so you must forward the port to be about to connect ?
[14:46] <Gmind> it's modem firmware config or you just config in your linux ?
[14:46] <taha_> type your gateway address at your browser. most probably <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:47] <Gmind> it doesn't matter, I just can't make it work anyway :|
[14:47] <taha_> forwarding tab on the left panel then virtual servers. that's what i did.
[14:47] <Gmind> just if you can say preciously what I can do
[14:48] <Gmind> :-?
[14:48] <taha_> ok
[14:48] <Gmind> wonder if you tried your android device ?
[14:48] <Gmind> I see that unix based os don't have this problem
[14:49] <taha_> the thing is i am on ubuntu. at home i didn't have this connection problem, but today with tplink i couldnt connect at work
[14:54] <janet> I wonder how long it would take to run an internet-wide port scan
[14:54] <vril> okay one question about ubuntu
[14:54] <vril> how do i get gnome 2 back (not MATE)
[14:54] <vril> from a new install
[14:54] <vril> i know i can use the 10.04 cd
[14:54] <vril> then keep updating
[14:55] <janet> ez install gnome 2
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> !gnome2
[14:55] <blup1> hello, i got a question
[14:55] <vril> !notunity
[14:56] <vril> !classic
[14:56] <Gmind> how to I login GUI mode from terminal =.="
[14:56] <vril> startx
[14:56] <vril> type in startx
[14:56] <vril> oh from terminal or cli?
[14:56] <blackshirt> wew
[14:56] <vril> pfft
[14:57] <vril> for all that trouble i just install 10.04 or run xubuntu
[14:57] <Gmind> LoL... ubuntu at least should hint the user to use that command :(
[14:57] <Gmind> I haven't been here for years
[14:57] <vril> yeah, definitely agree with you Gmind
[14:57] <blup1> if in lubuntu, I click Create new wiseless network, and I connect another laptop to mine, how can I then transfer anything between these two laptops?
[14:57] <vril> but i knew that command ever since slackware 7 was out
[14:57] <vril> after configuring X.org
[14:57] <vril> took me about a month to get it running properly, as a naive kid
[14:57] <vril> tbh
[14:58] <dr_willis> i remember befor there was a xorg
[14:58] <WDKevin> I mounted a disk but all the files have a filesize of 0.
[14:58] <jCuber> blup1, You might want to take a look at FTP
[14:58] <vril> well my first distro was slackware 7
[14:58] <vril> i bought it, at best buy
[14:58] <gordonjcp> Gmind: why would it, and why on earth are you starting a GUI with startx?
[14:58] <dr_willis> WDKevin:  what filesystem?
[14:58] <WDKevin> dr_willis, ext4
[14:59] <Gmind> gordonjcp, now why are you asking me @.@
[14:59] <dr_willis> WDKevin:  hmm. try making a file on it? perhaps needs a fscking
[14:59] <vril> Gmind, you're an old user that came back to ubuntu too?
[14:59] <vril> lol
[14:59] <gordonjcp> Gmind: because you asked a couple of minutes ago about starting a GUI from the command line?
[14:59] <WDKevin> dr_willis, the test file worked
[14:59] <Guest81092> hi, is someone here who can compile glade files, so I can quickly have a look at it how it appears without having any function?
[15:00] <Gmind> gordonjcp, no, I've just asked.
[15:00] <dr_willis> WDKevin:  so all the files truely are empty? or just reporting the sizes wrong?
[15:00] <gordonjcp> Guest99277: open it in glade
[15:00] <gordonjcp> Gmind: you shouldn't need to use startx
[15:00] <Gmind> and VMWare Player suck at installing Ubuntu 12
[15:00] <WDKevin> dr_willis, they are reporting a file size of 0 but they were not empty when they were uploaded
[15:01] <WDKevin> the server was shut down over the weekend and the drive was not automounted when icame in today
[15:01] <WDKevin> i added a line to fstab to do that but i may have gotten the params wrong
[15:02] <subdesign> is it possible that gd2 watermark doesn't work on Ubuntu?
[15:02] <dr_willis> its unusual to 'automount' via nautilus  a ext/3/4 as a user. fstab is the normal way to do it
[15:02] <WDKevin> dr_willis, im doing it through fstab
[15:02] <genshu> gordonjcp, in the actual version of glade it does not look like a windowed application, there is just the main content of the window in a different context than usually.
[15:03] <genshu> gordonjcp, and there is no run or compile function in glade
[15:04] <AdvoWork> jrib, so just make a group "webusers" and add the userA an userB to them? and then chown webuser:webuser or chown usera:webuser?
[15:04] <WDKevin> dr_willis, in my fstab, should i just be using defaults?
[15:06] <blup1> why is there a Unity Desktop, when Ubuntu just could customly update gnome, which was much better? unity is useless
[15:06] <jrib> blup1: use what you like
[15:07] <AdvoWork> jrib, ive added a group, added the 2 users to it, but what should I chown as now? chown groupname:groupname or chown usera:groupname (but can userB still use it then?)
[15:07] <jrib> AdvoWork: chgrp
[15:07] <blup1> yes, but I mean, why to make such an effort to programm unity, when most users doesnt like to use it anyway?
[15:08] <arabi> hello guys... is there any places where i can get used books at low cost?
[15:08] <jrib> blup1: how do you know most users don't like it :)
[15:08] <arabi> online
[15:08] <blup1> I suppose
[15:08] <jrib> !ot | arabi
[15:08] <AdvoWork> jrib, but why do i need to do that?
[15:08] <jrib> AdvoWork: chgrp will change only the group which is what I assume you want to do
[15:08] <AdvoWork> ahh so change the group that the file belongs to?
[15:09] <jrib> AdvoWork: sure, I guess the file is some directory?
[15:09] <AdvoWork> yeah, to be fair once ive got it working, theres lots of files and directories
[15:10] <jrib> AdvoWork: if you just want to give multiple users the ability to write files inside a directory, give the directory group write permissions and then chgrp the directory to whatever you want.  You probably also want to use the sticky bit.
[15:13] <WDKevin> My drive is now mounting when the server is rebooted but it still reports every file as having no file size.
[15:13] <Pooper> Hi all, I created a software based array of disks (4x3TB) using mdadm RAID 5. I then used mkfs.ext4 to partition with the following parameters:  -b 4096 -E stride=128,stripe-width=384... Now that the array is mounted, when I transfer files to it the md5sum of the files changes with respect to the original.... Any ideas as to why this is happening?
[15:13] <WDKevin> I'm able to create new files just fine, but the existing ones all report 0.
[15:15] <alansaul_> Hey guys, I need to update my version of numpy from 1.5.1 to 1.6, but im running ubuntu 11.04 so its not in the package mangements, whats the best way to do so? I heard pip was a bad idea with numpy? Should I remove from apt-get and install via source?
[15:15] <jrib> !11.04 | alansaul_
[15:15] <lonewulf85> I have a serious problem, when I boot it says that it cannot find "/tmp" I have to skip mounting it to continue any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:16] <alansaul_> jrib: Okay yeah, it will be updated eventually, but thats not an option right now
[15:16] <jrib> alansaul_: ok
[15:16] <AdvoWork> jrib, basically ive added userA and userB to the group developers. I've then done chgrp developers myfile.txt  (its still owned by root though). I've then as userA tried to upload the file, which has failed, but surely that should work as userA is part of the developers group?
[15:17] <jrib> AdvoWork: you want them to be able to overwrite each other's version of the file?
[15:17] <blackshirt> !acl | advowork
[15:17] <llutz> lonewulf85: check your /etc/fstab, do you have /tmp on an own partition? if not, sudo mkdir /tmp && sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[15:17] <blackshirt> advowork, maybe you want use acl for more control
[15:18] <lonewulf85> llutz: I will give this a try thanks.
[15:20] <lonewulf85> llutz: when I run the command I get this "mkdir: cannot create directory `/tmp': File exists"
[15:20] <jrib> AdvoWork: anyway, the relevant permissions are the ones on the parent directory unless you use sticky bit
[15:20] <jCuber> genshu, you'll need GtkBuilder to actually make the windowed app
[15:20] <llutz> lonewulf85: sudo chown root:root /tmp && sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[15:21] <AdvoWork> jrib, yeah i want userA/userB to be able to modify their files(or anything with the group developers), could you please define sticky bit(sorry? )
[15:22] <jrib> AdvoWork: then just change the group write permmissions on the parent directory (and chgrp the parent directory)
[15:22] <WDKevin> My drive is now mounting when the server is rebooted but it still reports every file as having no file size. The files definetely had sizes and were just fine before the server went down and the disk was unmounted. Is it possible my mount parameters are causing this?
[15:24] <AdvoWork> jrib, so: chmod g+w /var/www/whatever ?  and then chgrp developers /var/www/whatever ? in that order too?
[15:24] <jrib> AdvoWork: sure
[15:25] <lonewulf85> WDKevin: All the files are on the server correct?
[15:25] <WDKevin> They are virtual machines. The drive I am trying to mount is a seperate virtual drive.
[15:25] <WDKevin> It's ext4, and it's worked fine until just this weekend when it was rebooted and not automounted.
[15:26] <lonewulf85> WDKevin: Then the lack of automation is what might have caused it. Can you access the files right now?
[15:26] <WDKevin> Lonewlf, no I cannot
[15:27] <WDKevin> I can see the directory listing, but all files have a filesize of 0.
[15:27] <th30z> Hey, I've just installed ubuntu 12.10 but I'm not able to run a user created script... e.g. I create a file #!/bin/bash echo "Hello" then chmod +x and then ./foo.sh but I get bash: ./foo.sh: Permission denied any idea? thanks!
[15:27] <TheLordOfTime> th30z, check ownership on the file
[15:27] <TheLordOfTime> th30z, does your user own the file :P
[15:28] <th30z> TheLordOfTime: yes, file just created.. my user, my group, +x, same also with chmod 777
[15:28] <jrib> th30z: paste the output of: ls -l /path/to/your/script
[15:28] <TheLordOfTime> and pastebin the contents of your script as well
[15:28] <TheLordOfTime> just in case that's at fault :P
[15:29] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebin | th30z, for pasting
[15:29] <lonewulf85> WDKevin: You might need to re automatize the mounting of the files, then reboot and see if you can get them back to the way the were.
[15:29] <janet> <IP_ADDRESS> needs a firewall
[15:29] <th30z> TheLordOfTime: is not a permission issue http://pastebin.com/Uq8mSWye
[15:29] <WDKevin> Lonewlf, thats what im trying to do now
[15:29] <TheLordOfTime> th30z, so pastebin your entire script, you may have written something wrong in it which is causing the break.
[15:29] <lonewulf85> WDKevin: Oh okay.
[15:30] <WDKevin> Lonewlf, It's just everytime the machine comes back up I just get a list of 0byte files
[15:30] <jrib> AdvoWork: do note that if you want to let people edit the files, then they need write permissions on the files.  Also, if you want this to apply to subdirectories, then you'd need to change the permissions of subdirectories.  It really depends on what exactly your goal is as to whether or not this is a suitable solution.  If it's not, and you need more control then ACLs as blackshirt said is the way to go
[15:30] <jrib> (you can set a default ACL)
[15:30] <llutz> WDKevin: whats your fstab-line for that filesystem?
[15:31] <WDKevin> llutz, UUID=7eddd68f-ed4b-460e-bc11-0a3f890b1cdc /var/www/images ext4 rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,async 0   1
[15:31] <th30z> TheLordOfTime: is not a script issue, same with other code... python, C and so on... and other /run downloaded http://pastebin.com/F4zktmNU
[15:31] <jrib> th30z: pastebin output of « mount »
[15:31] <TheLordOfTime> th30z, also, quick quesiton,l is this on your system or on say a free shell or something
[15:31] <TheLordOfTime> (some shell hosts restrict running things)
[15:31] <th30z> TheLordOfTime:  is just type ext4 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro)
[15:32] <TheLordOfTime> jrib, ^
[15:32] <TheLordOfTime> th30z, remember, i'm not hte only one asking you questions.
[15:32] <th30z> TheLordOfTime: no on the system
[15:32] <TheLordOfTime> th30z, that wasnt my question...
[15:32] <jrib> th30z: use a pastebin
[15:32] <TheLordOfTime> th30z, is this your system, or a free shell?  i dindt ask the partition type
[15:32] <TheLordOfTime> nor the filesystem
[15:33] <th30z> TheLordOfTime: sorry was for jrib, is my system
[15:33] <llutz> WDKevin: "rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,async" = defaults. "ls -ld  /var/www/images"
[15:33] <WDKevin> llutz, defaults also includes nouser
[15:34] <llutz> WDKevin: and? if you use "auto" the user-option would be obsolete anyways
[15:34] <WDKevin> ah
[15:34] <Sidewinder> TheLordOfTime, Good mornin'; would you mind a PM?
[15:34] <WDKevin> i appologize
[15:34] <th30z> jrib: http://pastebin.com/7gajRgua
[15:34] <WDKevin> llutz, running the command you gave, before mount it shows root:root as owner, afterwards its my user
[15:35] <lappy_> I'm using lubuntu 12.10, and I'm trying to find the synclient.conf file so I can permanently enable horizontal edge scrolling.  Does anyone know where/how I can find this file?
[15:35] <llutz> WDKevin: and who should own the files?
[15:35] <WDKevin> www-data owns the files in the directory
[15:35] <jrib> !synaptics | lappy_
[15:35] <jrib> lappy_: see if that wiki page is updated
[15:37] <designbybeck_> PLEASE HELP: Just ran the updates on 12.10 and I can't login now after restart. I just get a blank background
[15:37] <jCuber> Hey fellas, what's the safest way to install Ubuntu 12.(10/04) for dual-boot with Windows 7 x64? I know the method, but I wouldn't want to lose 700GB of data (nor backup)
[15:37] <lappy_> Ok, thank you guys!
[15:37] <jrib> designbybeck_: see if happens with a new user
[15:37] <hmsck> i have a problem with indicators in Xubuntu 12.10..it doesn't work
[15:37] <designbybeck_> Seems this might have been a problem with NVIDIA at one time as well
[15:37] <designbybeck_> jrib: i get the same results as guest
[15:37] <jCuber> designbybeck_, Press ALT+F1 at start, log in, then when console is initialized, type in startx for starters
[15:37] <jrib> designbybeck_: see if happens with a new user
[15:38] <designbybeck_> i can't get in to do anything to make a new user jrib
[15:38] <designbybeck_> jCuber: i don't get unity at all
[15:38] <designbybeck_> just a background
[15:38] <jrib> designbybeck_: ctrl-alt-f1 should get you a tty
[15:38] <TheLordOfTime> Sidewinder, go ahead, but i'm in a spotty-networking area, so i may not see it right away
[15:39] <jrib> th30z: what's an example of something else that you run and this happens?
[15:39] <jCuber> designbybeck_, Tried choosing another window manager from Login?
[15:39] <Sidewinder> TheLordOfTime, Thanks; it'll take a few moments, my typing sucks and I want to be concise..
[15:39] <designbybeck_> i don't have another one to try jCuber
[15:40] <jCuber> designbybeck_, You should be able to choose Unity 2D from somewhere like the top or bottom screen
[15:40] <jCuber> designbybeck_, At the login screen, I mean
[15:40] <designbybeck_> not with Ubuntu 12.10
[15:40] <hmsck> ubuntu doesn't recognize a RTL8187 driver...:(
[15:46] <alansaul_> How can I check where my apt-get installation of a package is located?
[15:46] <jrib> alansaul_: dpkg -L PACKAGE .  But why?
[15:47] <alansaul_> jrib: I think I have multiple installations of numpy, want to know which will disappear if I do apt-get remove numpy
[15:47] <Lonewlf> the only way to have multiple installs of something is if packagemanagement is broken... or if you installed something by hand
[15:47] <Lonewlf> dpkg --list|grep numpy
[15:48] <TheLordOfTime> Sidewinder, you're asking for support in a private message?
[15:48] <alansaul_> I've just got my hands on this (messy) server, so I'm trying to straighten some things out, I think atleast one version was installed by hand...
[15:48] <TheLordOfTime> !privmsg | Sidewinder
[15:49] <jrib> alansaul_: the first thing you should do is upgrade to a supported release...
[15:49] <alansaul_> jrib: Will be able to do that in the next couple of weeks
[15:49] <alansaul_> Going to have a complete wipe
[15:49] <alansaul_> for now, I just need a passable solution
[15:49] <alansaul_> so just need a updated version of numpy somewhere
[15:50] <TheLordOfTime> Sidewinder, there's a reason we discourage using private messages for syupport requests, so you can have several people working together to help you with issues.  For future reference, I do not give Ubuntu support via private message.
[15:51] <TheLordOfTime> Sidewinder, i'd encourage you to ask your question about VPN in this channel
[15:51] <TheLordOfTime> and wait patiently for a response.
[15:51] <Sidewinder> TheLordOfTime, Message received and understood.
[15:51]  * TheLordOfTime returns to digging around nginx's source code
[15:52] <Sidewinder> And, good luck in your future endeavors.
[15:55] <philinux> Is there a lock file causing this error to happen? gpassword: cannot lock /etc/group;try again later
[15:56] <gordonjcp> philinux: no
[15:56] <gordonjcp> it means you haven't got permission to fiddle with groups
[15:56] <gordonjcp> maybe you need to use sudo
[15:57] <philinux> gordonjcp: this is in recovery mode as root
[15:58] <gordonjcp> hm, maybe it's not mounted read-write
[15:58] <gordonjcp> philinux: What exactly are you trying to do?
[16:00] <philinux> gordonjcp: help this guy who accidently borked his admin account http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12350440#post12350440
[16:00] <TheLordOfTime> Sidewinder, i may have one solution, though, do you use network-manager?
[16:12] <AdvoWork> I've done chmod g+w /var/www/whatever and then chgrp developers /var/www/whatever and then done ls -al | grep whatever and it lists: drwxrwxr-x 2  755 developers  4096 Nov 12 15:59 whatever, does that look right, with the 755 being listed?
[16:18] <cist1999> !hello
[16:18] <cist1999> ciao
[16:18] <cist1999> !list
[16:18] <dr_willis> cist1999:  do you list every channel you join?
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> the !list factoid should show something else
[16:23] <OerHeks> dr_willis, i still wonder, from 2009 untill now, what channel on #freenode gives download results to '!list"
[16:23] <OerHeks> sorry that would be offtopic
[16:24] <dr_willis> we should send them torrent files of the current releases.. that would lighten the server loads. ;-)
[16:25] <OerHeks> dr_willis +1 raring ?
[16:25] <Cybwoti> Sarthor_ sorry I dashed away on a callout... proceed
[16:25] <dr_willis> split rars with par files and password protected
[16:26] <dr_willis> in a zip file
[16:26] <dr_willis> ;-)
[16:26] <dr_willis> and a totally unreadable.   .nfo  file.
[16:27] <jackhill> Hello can point me at documentation (or tell me) why dh_usrlocal is useful? Why create directories in maintainer scripts instead of just encoding them in the package files?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> or direct the guy to trololo
[16:28] <jrib> jackhill: probably better luck in #ubuntu-packaging or #ubuntu-motu (or a debian packaging channel)
[16:28] <dr_willis> hmm. got no idea what dh_usrlocal  is. ;-)
[16:28] <jackhill> jrib: thanks!
[16:28] <mag]]> is it "normal" for my system to be sitting at 66% cached memory used? or to have 4.8gigs of cached memory? It seems to continually build up until ~99% memory usage (70-30 distribution between cached and active memory) and when I do something memory intensive from there, I get graphical issues in my desktop manager.. like altered characters and blank applications that are still running.. Restarting the desktop manager (log out/log in) is just a temp fix, and I'l
[16:28] <mag]]> l have to eventually reboot
[16:30] <dr_willis> that is weird mag]]
[16:30] <Cybwoti> how...
[16:30] <mag]]> maybe it's gnome-fallback's problem?
[16:30] <rumpe1> mag]], for what else should the free memory be used?
[16:31] <Cybwoti> normal boot huh
[16:31] <dr_willis> try a dufferent desktop perhaps and see?
[16:31] <rumpe1> mag]], are you looking for actual "free" (=not used) memory?
[16:32] <mag]]> I think if I try to drop the cached memory, I'll get the graphical errors
[16:32] <mag]]> rumpe1, I just don't want to have to reboot because of memory errors
[16:33] <rumpe1> mag]], then... buy some new ram?
[16:33] <dr_willis> i have to wonder how graphics memory is getting affected by system memory
[16:34] <maplesoft> is there a game similer to 'red alert
[16:34] <dr_willis> a long memtest may be a good idea.
[16:34] <mag]]> rumpe1, I was just wondering if 66% constant cache usage is normal
[16:34] <maplesoft> is there a game similer to 'red alert' in linux
[16:34] <maplesoft> ?
[16:34] <dr_willis> maplesoft: warzone2000 perhaps
[16:34] <mag]]> dr_willis, yeah, when I have the time I should try that too
[16:34] <maplesoft> dr_willis:  ok. thats for linux?
[16:34] <rumpe1> mag]], it's normal to fill up the free ram with caches and buffers
[16:34] <dr_willis> i think thats the name..
[16:35] <maplesoft> dr_willis:  have you played it?
[16:35] <DarkAceLaptop> what does pipe_wait in waiting channel mean?
[16:35] <DarkAceLaptop> >System monitor
[16:35] <dr_willis> wz2000. wz2k.    its been a while since i played it.
[16:35] <mag]]> rumpe1, until 99% memory usage?
[16:35] <dr_willis> !games
[16:36] <rumpe1> mag]], yes, why not?
[16:36] <rumpe1> mag]], if an application needs ram, it can easily be droped
[16:36] <Foca_> How-to so that <img src=""> open my image in ubuntu-server ? I need configure my  permissions ?
[16:36] <maplesoft> dr_willis:  I needed a free linux game that is similer to 'red alert'
[16:37] <DarkAceLaptop> what does pipe_wait in waiting channel mean?
[16:37] <dsenator> hey all... I wanna fix OpenGL issues in Ubuntu 12.10
[16:37] <mag]]> rumpe1, I don't know... just questioning, and dropping seems to screw things up so I was wondering if there were memory management errors somewhere :P, oh well thanks for the help, and thanks dr_willis
[16:38] <LucidGuy> XFS fs 40TB filesystems..  actual 134876361, ideal 14984301, fragmentation factor 88.89 ...  I'm thinking defrag, but something tells me thats going to take days.
[16:38] <dr_willis> maplesoft: warzone2000 perhaps......
[16:38] <Doxin> I've got a file in a zipfile with weird characters in the name, and file-roller refuses to extract it. how do I get that file out of there? (with or without the original filename)
[16:38] <dr_willis> maplesoft: check the game sites
[16:39] <dr_willis> warzone 2100   ;-)    i was clise
[16:39] <dr_willis> close
[16:40] <maplesoft> dr_willis: thanks
[16:40] <ChogyDan> Doxin: try 7-zip
[16:40] <Herion> hello
[16:40] <Doxin> ChogyDan: eww
[16:40] <dsenator> help me fix open gl issues
[16:40] <ChogyDan> !details | dsenator
[16:41] <west> how do i refresh my usb ports. one thumb stick seems to have problems getting recognized but works automatically when i leave it in and restart ubuntu.
[16:41] <west> ls /dev/sd*  only shows sda not /dev/sdbx
[16:42] <west> ls
[16:42] <ChogyDan> west: maybe try `sudo lshw`
[16:43] <mixnovich> ah
[16:43] <dsenator> I have a problem with using Modo 3d software in Virtual box, I'm running Ubuntu version Quantal, I discovered I may need to install nvidia driver and not use the open source driver, so I do sudo apt-get install nvidia-current and get the message that ''E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages''
[16:45] <ChogyDan> dsenator: can you pastebin the full text of your cli?  ie, the command you ran and the resulting output and error messages?
[16:45] <west> it shows usb0, 1 and 2 as if I have 3 ports but I only have 2
[16:45] <mattsyco> Anyone have an idea why my computer freezes up whenever it goes to sleep for more than an hour?
[16:46] <ChogyDan> dsenator: also, you may want to try `sudo apt-get install -f`
[16:46] <crackerjackz> for some reason the new kernel messed my webcam up... the newest gentoo kernel also does the same thing to my webcam..can i use the old driver or something? is that possible? it does it on both the newest versions of ubuntu and gentoo but not on the old ones... i'm kind of upset that it forced me to upgarde now none of my hardware is working right
[16:46] <dsenator> how do I do mention your name like you do for  me here?
[16:46] <dr_willis> dsenator:  you wouldent use the nvidia drivers in virtualbox
[16:46] <dr_willis> !tab
[16:47] <dsenator> this is the command 'sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a; uname -a'
[16:47] <ChogyDan> crackerjackz: AFAIK, you need to use the older kernel.  The driver versions are tied to the kernel
[16:47] <ChogyDan> !paste | dsenator
[16:47] <dr_willis> dsenator:  try a 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to fo a full update to latest packages on your release
[16:47] <crackerjackz> ChogyDan: that;s what i thought... what about on a distro where you configure and compile your own kernel... would it be possible then?
[16:47] <west> dsenator, thanks will try
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> crackerjackz  go ahead and create it
[16:48] <crackerjackz> MonkeyDust: ???
[16:49] <dr_willis> several sourced based distros out there. ;)
[16:49] <ChogyDan> crackerjackz: as monkey said, yeah.  It's just a matter of getting ahold of the kernel.  Typically, the repos won't have it readily available.  With Ubuntu, you could try getting the kernel from an older repo, or from the mainline ppa
[16:49] <crackerjackz> ChogyDan: how big of a security risk would it be to run a version of ubuntu that is no longer supported by the developers?
[16:49] <crackerjackz> this computer is olddddddddddddddddddddddddd
[16:49] <crackerjackz> but i like it and its all i have for a laptop
[16:50] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:  depends on how its connecteed to the net
[16:50] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: wirelessly
[16:50] <dr_willis> and what you do with it
[16:50] <dr_willis> whats the exact system specs?
[16:50] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: just work, surf the web, music, movies, video calls, nothing too crazy
[16:50] <ChogyDan> crackerjackz: also, 8.04 kernel is still supported, which is from 2008
[16:51] <crackerjackz> ChogyDan: i don't remember the exact version i had installed on here but it forced me to upgrade saying it was no longer supported... how do i downgrade with out formatting the drive?
[16:51] <dr_willis> !downgrade
[16:52] <dr_willis> you dont. ;)
[16:52] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: if i can at the very least get this device functioning properly then i'll be okay i can do with out the rest Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:08d7 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Communicate STX
[16:53] <cloudy> crackerjackz, which version were you running?
[16:53] <magesing> Hi everyone, I finally managed to boot into the installer, now how can I get the installer to recognize my  software RAID setup?
[16:53] <crackerjackz> cloudy: 10 point something i could be wrong though idr off the top of my head
[16:53] <crackerjackz> 10.04 i think
[16:54] <morad> hi
[16:54] <morad> bonsoir
[16:54] <crackerjackz> morad: hello
[16:54] <crackerjackz> how may we assist you?
[16:54] <dr_willis> !version
[16:55] <ewet> hi, when I start up the UbuntuGNOME Live CD it goes black after loading xorg -- is that an nvidia-driver/compositor issue?
[16:55] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: i'm using 12.04 now but the kernel that was working for me was 10.04 i think
[16:55] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | ewet
[16:55] <morad> Hi crackerjackz
[16:56] <morad> ndiswrapper :(
[16:56] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:  weird that it would break. check bug reports perhaps. may be a known issue and being worked on.
[16:56] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:   or the cam is so old it was dropped
[16:56] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: the cam works in the dark, but in the light it freezes
[16:56] <cloudy> crackerjackz, a friend of mine got the same message on the netbook. Now it runs 12.04 and is just very slow. And it was running the beautiful Netbook edition of ubuntu. Now its time for xubuntu. I guess in your case, I would backup home and reinstall 10.04.
[16:57] <crackerjackz> it does the same thing on gentoo but i thought maybe the cam was just broke... i put old version of ubuntu on my laptop and the cam worked perfect until i upgraded to 12.04
[16:57] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:  may be the cam is busted.. hard to tell.
[16:57] <magesing> Where can I find the latest version of the installation docs?
[16:57] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: it works great on my friends windoze computer
[16:57] <morad> I h've a problem with m'i wifi
[16:57] <dr_willis> time to check the bug reports and forums then crackerjackz
[16:58] <crackerjackz> !ndis
[16:58] <crackerjackz> !ndis | morad
[16:58] <morad> thank's
[16:59] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:  id check it with a 12.10 live usb also... could be the upgrade was the issue. not 12.10
[17:00] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: there is a 12.10? im on 12.04 maybe upgrading to 12.10 would fix it?
[17:00] <cloudy> crackerjackz, have a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeWebCams
[17:00] <ewet> dr_willis: weird thing is the xubuntu 12.10 works fine ...
[17:01] <dr_willis> crackerjackz:  i rarely upgrade.... i always clean install..  test with a 12.10 live usb..
[17:02] <cloudy> dr_willis, do you have home on a seperate partition?
[17:02] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: can you clean install with out overwriting your home directory and what not? (say if everything resides on /)
[17:02] <crackerjackz> i've got like 100 GB of data on here and all of my hard disk are full
[17:02] <dr_willis> cloudy:  i got home on its own seperate hard drive even... ;)
[17:02] <dr_willis> 100gb? thats all?
[17:03] <dr_willis> i got more por... err... vacation pics then that
[17:03] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: on this laptop yes.. it only has 160 gb HD but my other computers have bigger ones and they are all full as well
[17:03] <dr_willis> sounds like you need to clean house.
[17:03] <ChogyDan> crackerjackz: yes you can, but the feature is somewhat obscure...  Canonical devs were going to fix that...
[17:04] <dsenator> ChogyDan, dr_willis here are the image links from terminal http://imagebin.org/235566, http://imagebin.org/235565, http://imagebin.org/235567, http://imagebin.org/235568
[17:04] <dr_willis> just remember a hard drive could die at any time.. data not backed up is data at risk
[17:04] <crackerjackz> ChogyDan: in what ways is it obscure, you mean obscure as in kind of complicated to figure out with not much documentation on the matter?
[17:05] <dr_willis> you could repartition and make a /home/ partition via gparted  but that may take time
[17:05] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: yah i need to get some TB external drives and start backing up all my data to them
[17:05] <cloudy> dr_willis, do you have a second harddrive in your PC or is it somewhere in your network?
[17:05] <dr_willis> and data loss is possible
[17:06] <dr_willis> cloudy:  i have like 4 on that one pc.. and a nas.
[17:06] <dr_willis> and a stack or backup usb hds
[17:06] <dsenator> dr_willis, I am not looking to use nvidia in VB, I just want to be able to to solve the open gl issue of the host OS that is affecting the VB
[17:06] <cloudy> dr_willis, 4 discs - are you using RAID?
[17:06] <dr_willis> got a 3tb internal for under $100 a few weeks back to replace a 1TB
[17:07] <dr_willis> cloudy:  i dont use raid. i want space. not speed.. my single sdd gives me speed
[17:07] <cloudy> dr_willis, ok -so you have 3 big HDD and 1 SSD?
[17:07] <dr_willis> yep.
[17:08] <Kroach> is it possible to remove a package along with all it's dependencies which are not required by any other package? like 'pacman -Rs package' in Arch
[17:08] <dr_willis> on that pc. ;)
[17:08] <cloudy> dr_willis, how big is your nas and how many discs do you have there?
[17:08] <dr_willis> cloudy:  it has a 3tb on it
[17:08] <cloudy> dr_willis, what is the noise level of your setup?
[17:09] <ChogyDan> crackerjackz: it is not documented at all, and no indication that it will work.  But here is how to do it.  Just use the installer to start doing a clean install.  Select MANUAL partitioning when the option arises.  Setup up / to be whatever it is, and then hit install.  The installer will complain about an OS already present, and that certain directories (not /home) will have to be deleted.  In theory, it should leave /home intact.  I have tested this as workin
[17:09] <dr_willis> cloudy:  never noticed. i dont even have the side on it right now
[17:09] <crackerjackz> dr_willis: i just plugged my webcam up to another computer running 11.10 and it works great.. i guess imma just downgrade soon as i figure out a wayt o back all of this data up
[17:09] <ToeTag> Does anyone know what specifically is different about the "Mac" .iso for LUBUNTU (I also have asked in #lubuntu)
[17:10] <dr_willis> or its your usb ports thats the issue crackerjackz ...
[17:10] <dr_willis> id just get a new webcam. ;)
[17:10] <ChogyDan> dsenator: you don't have to do picture pastes, but it works.  try: `sudo apt-get install xorg-video-abi-11`  and see what that says
[17:10] <crackerjackz> ChogyDan: interesting.. what live cd did you do it with?
[17:11] <ChogyDan> crackerjackz: it was Ubuntu for the flavour.  Don't remember the version
[17:11] <cloudy> dr_willis, when you do a new install, do you always install home as well and then just copy everything back from your backup ?
[17:11] <crackerjackz> roger that
[17:12] <dsenator> ChogyDan, i am on it
[17:12] <dr_willis> cloudy:  i tell it where my /home/ is (on sdb1) and it uses it.  it does not format it
[17:12] <dr_willis> i readd my users in the same order every time also.
[17:13] <cloudy> dr_willis, what is the risk that newer versions of an application do not work with your old config files stored on home?
[17:13] <dr_willis> you could get fancy and have home for different users on different fielsystems if you wanted. ;)
[17:13] <dr_willis> cloudy:  its trivial to clean out the old configs
[17:13] <dr_willis> ive rarely seen the issue happen
[17:13] <cloudy> dr_willis, :) Please tell me how?
[17:13] <dr_willis> remove/rename the config giles
[17:14] <dr_willis> files
[17:14] <crackerjackz> brb
[17:15] <dsenator> ChogyDan, here is the result Package xorg-video-abi-11 is a virtual package provided by:    xserver-xorg-core 2:1.11.4-0ubuntu10.8 [Not candidate version]    xserver-xorg-core 2:1.11.4-0ubuntu10.6 [Not candidate version]    xserver-xorg-core 2:1.11.4-0ubuntu10 [Not candidate version]
[17:15] <dsenator> ChogyDan, sorry i dont know how to paste from terminal directly
[17:15] <cloudy> dr_willis, so when an application has a problem you start with renaming the old config files and see if it solved?
[17:16] <ChogyDan> dsenator: just copy paste to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[17:16] <cal_> installed 12.10... what the heck is this /dev/mapper/ stuff instead of /dev/sda1?
[17:16] <Cybw0tee> linux or cisco first...am in networking security for the long haul. Asked same Q in cisco chan, hoping for unbiased only
[17:17] <SoapMacTavish> soooo, I need help with one issue here, tried so many things, but no luck.
[17:17] <SoapMacTavish>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/142182/mac-like-multitouch-support   tried this one, over and over, looked at several threads, but no luck. It seems to me that: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:utouch-team/daily  is the thing not working here.
[17:17] <bekks> cal_: thats the device mapper stuff. AKA software raid and logical volume management.
[17:17] <OerHeks> SoapMacTavish, join #ubuntu-touch , maybe those guys can help you out
[17:18] <cal_> bekks: ahh. so thats cause i chose LVM in the install? what if i had not chosen that, would  it still have used the whole 200gb drive?
[17:18] <SoapMacTavish> thnx
[17:18] <dsenator> ChogyDan, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1353605/
[17:18] <cloudy> dr_willis, what vendor is your NAS from?
[17:18] <bekks> cal_: In neither case you have to use your entire drive.
[17:18] <cal_> bekks: i know, but i wanted too
[17:19] <cal_> what does LVM give me over just having a /dev/sda1
[17:19] <dr_willis> cloudy: its built in the Cisco router. ive had others in the past
[17:19] <wN> cal_: LVM is a storage adminstration tool. if lets resize volumes, stick volumes together, mirror, snapshot, etc.
[17:19] <cloudy> dr_willis, ok - so it is a router with a USB port to which you attached the 3 TB drive?
[17:20] <dr_willis> cloudy: my boxee box also shared a hd. ;-)
[17:20] <Cybwoti> sng _ you serious or sacastic...
[17:20] <cal_> ahh ok
[17:20] <dr_willis> cloudy: yes.
[17:20] <ChogyDan> dsenator: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
[17:21] <hmsck> swapon: /dev/sda6: swapon failed: Device or resource busy
[17:21] <dr_willis> i have some low end nas $20  that can share 2 usb hds also.
[17:21] <cloudy> dr_willis, regarding the config files being trivial, that part is something that I don't find so trivial. How do you know which config files belong to which application. Showing the hidden files on the home it is just such a huge list.
[17:22] <dr_willis> cloudy:  90% of them are in.    .config
[17:22] <dsenator> ChogyDan - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1353614/
[17:22] <Christian_M_> hello everyone
[17:22] <dsenator> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1353614/
[17:22] <Christian_M_> why do i receive the following error: impossible to connect java.security.accessControlException : access denied (java.net.SocketPermission irc.tiscali.it resolve) ???
[17:23] <BluesKaj> BBIAB
[17:23] <ChogyDan> dsenator: did you install a ppa with a later version of the nvidia driver?
[17:23] <gustav__> Can I see where programs are writing files? I know iotop can show which programs write files, but where?
[17:23] <hmsck> my SWAP doesn't work: swapon: /dev/sda6: swapon failed: Device or resource busy
[17:24] <cloudy> Christian_M_, try running it with sudo
[17:24] <gustav__> Is there anyone who has moved flash plugin to RAM to make it write there, since most are streams and not so interesting to save?
[17:24] <gustav__> Does flash use /tmp or what?
[17:24] <Christian_M_> cloudy, thanks. It s not a terminal command. I receive that in a chat webpage
[17:25] <cloudy> Christian_M_, which version of Java are you running?
[17:25] <Christian_M_> jdk
[17:25] <Christian_M_> cloudy, jdk
[17:26] <cloudy> Christian_M_, please type in a terminal java -version
[17:26] <dsenator> ChogyDan, I have no idea what you are saying here... greek?
[17:26] <ChogyDan> dsenator: hmmm, and you are running 12.04?
[17:26] <dsenator> 12.10
[17:27] <dsenator> quantal 12.10 - ChogyDan
[17:27] <ChogyDan> dsenator: erm, did you get errors during the upgrade?
[17:27] <Christian_M_> cloudy, http://pastebin.com/4LJSXNMH
[17:27] <gavri> so I was trying to figure out why sound doesn't work often in all the non-mpd applications I have. mpd was running as a different user. so I tried to get it to use my user account. now I don't get sound with mpd either.
[17:27] <gavri> how do I just reinstall whatever is required for sound to work?
[17:28] <cloudy> Christian_M_, you might want to change to the Oracle Java instead of Openjdk
[17:28] <dsenator> ChogyDan, yeah but cant remember, but i know it was a partial upgrade and i have been trying to get it fully upgraded, this morning I was asked to fix broken packages which I kinda tried to do...
[17:28] <ChogyDan> dsenator: also, I forget, have you run sudo apt-get update during all this?
[17:28] <dsenator> ChogyDan, i did that in the morning, i can do it again
[17:29] <Christian_M_> cloudy, i tried but i can't, and in the ubuntu forum they told me that openjdk is great the same
[17:29] <ChogyDan> dsenator: try `update-manager --dist-upgrade`
[17:30] <cloudy> Christian_M_, have a look at this: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[17:30] <dsenator> ChogyDan, I just did the sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:30] <dsenator> how about the dist upgrade
[17:30] <dsenator> how do i do that
[17:30] <cloudy> Christian_M_, make sure you remove an openjdk first
[17:31] <Christian_M_> cloudy, i have just followed that guide!
[17:31] <ChogyDan> dsenator: well, let's just try the commands that Im giving.  I would try that one first
[17:32] <cloudy> Christian_M_, but your pastebin still shows openJdk, then something didn't go right
[17:32] <dsenator> ChogyDan, I have done everything up till sudo apt-get update
[17:32] <dsenator> but the update manager one, how do I do that
[17:32] <Christian_M_> cloudy, yes i told you: i tried but i can not install it, and then in the forum they told me to don't care
[17:32] <ChogyDan> dsenator: exactly as I typed it: `update-manager --dist-upgrade`
[17:34] <cloudy> Christian_M_, what did it say when you couldn't install it?
[17:34] <ChogyDan> dsenator: also, in update-manager, click settings, and make sure to get updates on "every new release"    I think it is the bottom option
[17:35] <dsenator> ChogyDan, i will do that again, i tried it earlier on but it said no such command... here is what it said again  now now http://paste.ubuntu.com/1353648/
[17:35] <dsenator> ChogyDan, you know there is no update manager anymore
[17:36] <Christian_M_> cloudy, http://pastebin.com/vcjWCGdJ
[17:37] <ChogyDan> dsenator: hmmm, well, you are correct.  Try just running update-manager then.     (the --dist-upgrade option is still listed in the man page)
[17:37] <dsenator> ChogyDan, it just starts running automatically, no option to choose aything
[17:38] <ChogyDan> dsenator: can you check the settings?
[17:38] <dsenator> ChogyDan, updater ran and installed 4 items, now it says up to date... how do I check setting?
[17:39] <ChogyDan> dsenator: do you see a settings button?
[17:40] <cloudy> Christian_M_, sha256sum mismatch jdk-7u3-linux-x64.tar.gz - the file is corrupted, could be your connection, you could retry
[17:41] <ChogyDan> dsenator: well, if you want the quick and dirty method, you can also just gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all references of precise to quantal
[17:41] <dsenator> hmm
[17:41] <ChogyDan> and THEN run update manager again, deal with resulting issues
[17:42] <dsenator> let me give you a screenshot
[17:42] <ChogyDan> k
[17:42] <Christian_M_> cloudy, it was not the only guide that i followed, but if you say that i can try it again now... should i just repeat the last command: sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer???
[17:43] <dsenator> ChogyDan, http://imagebin.org/235573
[17:43] <cloudy> Christian_M_, no, because the file that was downloaded is corrupt and every time you run it it will do a sha1 checksum check and will fail
[17:44] <Christian_M_> cloudy, ok i will repeat the whole procedure, do i have to remove/delete something before?
[17:45] <ChogyDan> dsenator: it is because your sources are messed up.  To me, that looks like you have an upgrade that failed to complete.  I was trying to find a command that might restart the upgrade (ie, update-manager).  But if you just want to plow through fixing the broken packages, fix your sources.list file, and that should get you started
[17:45] <cloudy> Christian_M_,  sorry, my mistake, yes, you can just run sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer and see that it gets downloaded again. no need to add anything else again
[17:46] <ChogyDan> dsenator: or you could backup and do a clean install.  Sometimes that is easier
[17:46] <dsenator> ChogyDan, software sources always crashes... once I click. I agree my upgrade did not install fully
[17:46] <Christian_M_> cloudy, thanks ! i will try immediatly
[17:47] <dsenator> ChogyDan,  this too http://imagebin.org/235574
[17:48] <ChogyDan> dsenator: same situation.  So what are you going to do?  Backup and clean install?  or fix your sources, and plow ahead?
[17:48] <Christian_M_> cloudy, same error
[17:48] <dsenator> let me do the dirty method
[17:50] <dsenator> ChogyDan, let me do the dirty method but when i change the name do i say ''Quantal Quetzal'' or just ''Quantal''?
[17:50] <ChogyDan> dsenator: neither, "quantal"
[17:51] <cloudy> Christian_M_, ok, looks like Oracle changed something on that link, this will not work at all for the moment
[17:51] <yoghrt> Hello, I Installed Ubuntu 12.10 64bit in UEFI mode and after restarting laptop i get "Failed to verify image with *ACCESS DENIED" instead of grub and then it boots Windows 8. I tried boot-repair but didn't help. Any Ideas?
[17:51] <dsenator> ChogyDan, ''quantal'' with a small q, not the big
[17:51] <ChogyDan> dsenator: correct
[17:51] <dsenator> on it now
[17:51] <Christian_M_> cloudy, should i wait or what? :)
[17:52] <MrOxy> How good is ubuntu at virtualization?
[17:52] <zhorko> hello I installed skype but it won't start
[17:52] <zhorko> when I click on the icon
[17:52] <dsenator> ChogyDan, and save when done?
[17:52] <ChogyDan> dsenator: of course
[17:52] <dtcrshr> hello everyone. This friday iv updated a notebook from 10.04, to 12.04, only via gnome update manager, chosing the distro update button. Iv wento from 10.04 to 10.10, and them to 11 as the update manager suggested and so on. My user is ok, documents, images and so on, but I had a lot of files into my desktop, most of my work, that were GONE after the update. Why ubuntu simply deleted the desktop on the gnome / unity update proccess? Is there
[17:52] <dtcrshr> a way to get my files back? into my /home/user/desktop theres nothing
[17:52] <dtcrshr> were they moved or something? why is there such a caveat on the update  proccess that kills all the desktop files? I know thats not a good use for the desktop this way, i should get my files into the documents, /images, /videos or whatsoever
[17:53] <zhorko> anyone here
[17:53] <zhorko> ?
[17:53] <zhorko> yes no
[17:54] <dsenator> ChogyDan, done and saved
[17:54] <ChogyDan> dtcrshr: that shouldn't happen
[17:54] <Cybw0tee> did i mìss something...got discon
[17:54] <dtcrshr> yeah. but it did. i did nothing that reboot and choose the next update
[17:54] <cloudy> Christian_M_, you can try the following. go to java.com and download the version from there. it will be a tar.gz file
[17:54] <jrib> dtcrshr: files shouldn't be deleted during update.  You should have updates anyway.  Take this as the moment you start backing up important files. Having said that, do you know the exact name of a particular file that should exist?
[17:54] <jrib> dtcrshr: I meant "have backups" not "have updates"
[17:55] <zhorko> ????????????????????????????????
[17:55] <ChogyDan> zhorko: try running skype from a terminal, see if you get an error message
[17:55] <dtcrshr> i know some file names for sure. iv  went to / folder and find -name 'fileiknow.ext'
[17:55] <gustav__> Hi, I see "jbd/sda1-8" writing frequently to disk, what is it and how can I make it stop?
[17:55] <dtcrshr> but theres none
[17:56] <jrib> dtcrshr: ok so what's the name of one file?  Also, during which update did this happen?
[17:56] <dtcrshr> well, the bad thing is that this notebook isnt mine. Iv installed ubuntu for this friend an year ago, and the ubuntu started popping up a box "this version is no longer supported, please update"
[17:56] <Cybw0tee> btw am on a old symbian os phone ...so my chat is slow...
[17:56] <jrib> dtcrshr: were you here a few days ago?  With the username "mauro" for ubuntu?
[17:56] <dsenator> ChogyDan, done and saved... now what next to test?
[17:56] <dtcrshr> so, he brought the note to me, iv simply updated from the GUI, NEVER imagined that the desktop were purged after update
[17:57] <ChogyDan> dsenator: run update-manager
[17:57] <fsufitch> hey, i'm trying to switch to using irssi instead of mirc, and i'm having trouble replicating the "/vhost" command from mirc. any advice?
[17:57] <jrib> !who | dtcrshr
[17:57] <dtcrshr> i dunno. I simply updated all the way, and when he got here to get the pc, the files werent there
[17:57] <Natanael_L> Hi there.  I am using the Live USB I have now. How do I restore it?
[17:57] <jrib> fsufitch: what does the command do...
[17:57] <dtcrshr> jrib: yes, its me
[17:57] <Christian_M_> cloudy, i have also tried that some days ago, but it neither worked for me
[17:57] <Cybw0tee> upgrade ubuntu
[17:58] <dtcrshr> He found a pendrive with some files that were on the desktop, so now I have at least some filenames to search for
[17:58] <fsufitch> jrib: the syntax is "/vhost <vhostname> <password>" and it sets my vhost to a pre-configured host, checking that i am allowed to use it via password
[17:58] <Pici> fsufitch: If you're trying to hide your host, you'll need to ask in #freenode.  There is no /vhost on freenode.
[17:58] <fsufitch> Pici: this is on a different server, but i was asking because googling has failed me
[17:58] <Natanael_L> I need to do something from the LiveUSB that is not "full restore". Or well, I haven't actually done very much so far regarding customization, so well...
[17:58] <Pici> fsufitch: unless of course your asking about another network, which you should use /quote to send a raw command to the server.
[17:59] <cloudy> Christian_M_, you could try to contact the maintainer of the following ppa and ask them to update their installer: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[17:59] <ControllerSYR> hi
[17:59] <fsufitch> Pici: i didn't know about /quote, i'll see if that helps
[18:00] <Christian_M_> cloudy, ok many thanks ! :)
[18:00] <MrOxy> How good is ubuntu at virtualization?
[18:00] <rumpe1> MrOxy, pretty good
[18:01] <dtcrshr> jrib: iv found some refferences, but to this path: /home/mauro/.openme/cache/home/mauro/Área de Trabalho/movie.mpg.thumbs
[18:01] <dtcrshr> but the movie.mpg, that were into the desktop isnt there
[18:01] <MrOxy> from windows and ubuntu which one is better?
[18:01] <jrib> dtcrshr: I know, I already went through everything with you last time
[18:02] <fsufitch> Pici: thanks, that worked!
[18:02] <dtcrshr> jrib: oh ok, sorry bothering you again
[18:02] <dsenator> ChogyDan, i did and here is the process http://imagebin.org/235577
[18:02] <PineappleCLock> Can anyone assist with a DNS problem? I can't seem to get Ubuntu server to 12.04 to resolve domain names - however I can do it manually via nslookup
[18:02] <magesing> Hi everyone, I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.10 on a sotware RAID setup... The most recent ubuntu docs. I can find on software raid are about ubuntu 9.10. Where can I find documentation on how to install ubuntu 12.10 on a software RAID?
[18:02] <jrib> dtcrshr: honestly, the only that made sense to me was that there was another partition, an encrypted home that was no longer getting mounted, or some other sort of mount that stopped functioning (like a network share?)
[18:03] <CarlFK> what is the name of an app that will wipe a disk?  (other than dd... looking for something GUI... and friendly...)
[18:03] <ChogyDan> dsenator: the partial upgrade of course.  Keep running partials then upgrades till no more updates
[18:03] <dsenator> ChogyDan,  then this http://imagebin.org/235578 when i said to run partial run partial
[18:03] <dsenator> so i will go ahead
[18:03] <ChogyDan> dsenator: yep
[18:04] <Christian_M_> cloudy, anyway, do you think that problem is caused by java?
[18:04] <dsenator> ChogyDan, thanks for the help here... I will wait and see and let you know how it turns out
[18:04] <dtcrshr> jrib: this note was used mostly offline. Is there a way to double check if the files were encripted?
[18:04] <ChogyDan> dsenator: good luck
[18:05] <YokoBR> hey guys, the only 3D driver i could manage to make it work here was the open source ati driver.... why can't i just enable my 3D support from the proprietary driver?
[18:06] <dtcrshr> jrib: well, i got the notebook here with me right now. ill boot with another live boot to browse
[18:06] <apoliten> hi all
[18:06] <jrib> dtcrshr: there's something like .ecryptfs in /home or /home/username usually.  Check the docs
[18:06] <jrib> !encrypt | dtcrshr
[18:06] <StaR_ClusterS> help for Intel® Core™ i3-2120 Processor ,video driver real ?
[18:06] <StaR_ClusterS> ?
[18:07] <PineappleCLock> hello I set up pptpd and now I cannot lookup hosts what could be wrong
[18:08] <StaR_ClusterS> hel me !
[18:08] <StaR_ClusterS> help for Intel® Core™ i3-2120 Processor ,video driver real ?
[18:08] <OerHeks> StaR_ClusterS, videodriver for a cpu ? what is ypur videocard ? open terminal:  lspci | grep VGA
[18:09] <StaR_ClusterS> OerHeks yes for cpu HD 2000 ...
[18:10] <OerHeks> StaR_ClusterS,  open terminal: "  lspci | grep VGA  " ( and past that on-line her)
[18:11] <StaR_ClusterS> ok reboot 5 min
[18:13] <arvislacis> How to re-enable notification?
[18:13] <gustav__> Can anyone help with getting down jbd/sda activity on disk?
[18:14] <cloudy> Christian_M_, that would be my first guess.
[18:15] <davanger> hello, i need some help install ufw in a VPS
[18:16] <Praxi> anyone recomend a good replacement for LDAP Browser on ubuntu?
[18:16] <gustav__> Praxi: apt-cache search ldap
[18:17] <pochefuok> hello... how can i install gnome 2 themes on my ubuntu 10.04.4 lts??
[18:17] <davanger> I've got a VPS with Ubutu and Im afraid if I install it through aptitude it will activate and automatically block me... I'm connected thourgh ssh
[18:17] <wollowizard> anyone can help me? OSError: libnetfilter_conntrack.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:18] <davanger> by the way my hosting company is not cooperating so I'm basically on my own here...
[18:18] <Guest65245> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:18] <Guest65245> HELP
[18:19] <ubuntufann> hello
[18:19] <peterrus> wollowizard: apt-cache search libnetfilter
[18:19] <peterrus> wollowizard: install what seems fitting
[18:19] <ubuntufann> can some1 help me to record a cd with music for my car im with ubuntu
[18:20] <peterrus> ubuntu you can do that with brasero for example
[18:20] <peterrus> ubuntufann:
[18:20] <ubuntufann> but im not sure that my car read mp3 and etc ...
[18:20] <peterrus> davanger: what do you mean?
[18:21] <StaR_ClusterS> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:21] <StaR_ClusterS> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:21] <peterrus> ubuntufann: it has an option for burning an ´Audio-CD´
[18:21] <Praxi> thanks gustav__ way too much information though, I just want a ldap explorer, like ldap browser :)  Not neccesarily every programming languages 10 different LDAPlibraries hehe
[18:21] <peterrus> Praxi: true, but that command often helps you find packages
[18:21] <gustav__> Praxi: You have to look through that list. :)
[18:21] <Praxi> was hoping to cut through some chaffe and see if others liked a particular one :)
[18:22] <llutz> davanger: idk about ufw default rules but this might help you (install but don't run it) http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5387067&postcount=7
[18:22] <peterrus> davanger: I can strongly advise you not to fiddle with firewalls unless you know its ins and outs
[18:22] <wollowizard> peterrus, libnetfilter-conntrack3 seems ok but I already have it installed
[18:22] <peterrus> davanger: read some documentation
[18:22] <TheLordOfTime> davanger, unless you know what you're doing, don't mess with the firewall
[18:22] <peterrus> wollowizard: which program are you trying to start?
[18:22] <zhorko> hey
[18:23] <wollowizard> peterrus, mallory
[18:23] <peterrus> TheLordOfTime: I second that
[18:23] <zhorko> I have skype problem it won't start unless it starts from terminal
[18:23] <wollowizard> peterrus, python program
[18:23] <peterrus> wollowizard: is it an application from the official ubuntu repository?
[18:23] <wollowizard> peterrus, no cloned from git
[18:23] <zhorko> anyone with a solution
[18:23] <josefig> is there a way that sudo can say "operation not permitted" ? on ubuntu 12.10 ?
[18:23] <peterrus> wollowizard: then that question might not be related to this channel.
[18:23] <StaR_ClusterS> OllieN, help
[18:24] <StaR_ClusterS> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:24] <peterrus> wollowizard: I suggest asking the developer of that specific application
[18:24] <OllieN> StaR_ClusterS, what? :P
[18:24] <zhorko> hey someone with solution to my issue?
[18:24] <Christian_M_> cloudy, i am trying to installa by tar, can u help me yet?
[18:24] <Akuw> i just god a CACERT certificate,now i want to installit on LibreOffice
[18:24] <wollowizard> peterrus, ok, thanks!!!
[18:24] <peterrus> wollowizard: these depency problems are handled by the official ubuntu repositories, so your version of mallory is not within that scope
[18:24] <peterrus> basicly meaning, there is nothing ´we´ can do about it
[18:25] <peterrus> which is not true, because the problem probably is just that you compiled something wrong
[18:26] <peterrus> wollowizard: are you trying to run a binary from that git repository or have you compiled whatever you´re trying to run yourself?
[18:26] <wollowizard> peterrus, being python, i just copied the entire repo and tried to run the file they indicate...
[18:26] <peterrus> wollowizard: are you sure something within that is not trying to run some binary supplied outside of the official ubuntu packages?
[18:26] <Q-tio> hi, I need some help with commandline-ubuntu. i need to conf ubuntu to gateway for my Mitm-study
[18:26] <peterrus> some helper program maybe
[18:27] <zykotick9> Akuw: you might want to try the #libreoffice channel for something so specialized (or maybe you'll be lucky and someone where knows)
[18:27] <Q-tio> or should I just jump to arch for that.
[18:27] <Akuw> thanks
[18:27] <lonewulf85> Does anyone know how to enable verbose start up in ubuntu 12.04 every time it starts
[18:28] <wollowizard> peterrus, I only see python files... but I don't know what it does exactly
[18:28] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: remove "quiet splash" from boot perhaps?  that should disable plymouth.  or use "text".
[18:28] <peterrus> wollowizard: python files should be no problem (.py)
[18:28] <peterrus> dont know about compiled python files (.pyc)
[18:29] <wollowizard> peterrus, but they should be generated automatically by the interpreter, right?
[18:29] <lonewulf85> zykotick9: I will look and see if that would do it thanks>
[18:29] <peterrus> wollowizard: not sure about that, my python knowledge does not reach that far :p
[18:29] <peterrus> you would expect that yes
[18:30] <wollowizard> peterrus, yeah, I think so... I'm not sure either, but it is only some kind of optimization
[18:30] <rjune> I would like empathy to play audio alerts on events.
[18:30] <peterrus> wollowizard: you could always try this: https://github.com/intrepidusgroup/mallory/issues
[18:31] <peterrus> and see if someone replys
[18:31] <rjune> The per application volume control for empathy is set very low.
[18:31] <zykotick9> lonewulf85: see "/msg ubottu grub2" for a links to the wiki for details.  short version, edit /etc/default/grub then run "sudo update-grub"
[18:31] <rjune> Unfortunately it only shows up when empathy is playing a sound.
[18:31] <rjune> How can I turn it up?
[18:31] <peterrus> wollowizard: have you used this? https://github.com/intrepidusgroup/mallory/blob/master/mallory_install.sh
[18:32] <peterrus> rjune: make it play a longer sound? use a custom sound file as notification or call someone
[18:32] <wollowizard> peterrus, yeah... It seems I solved it. In the official repo there is version 3... this prog was looking for version 1... i just made a sym link with the right name
[18:32] <peterrus> wollowizard: pretty dirty hack, but it might suit ;)
[18:32] <wollowizard> peterrus, not sure it will work, but at least it runs
[18:32] <davanger> so if there is a rule in /etc/ufw/applications.d should I assume that it will respect that?
[18:32] <peterrus> wollowizard: do expect segfaults
[18:33] <PineappleCLock> HELP! I can't get ubuntu to use my DNS servers
[18:33] <cloudy> Christian_M_, sorry, not at the moment, family is calling ;)
[18:34] <wollowizard> peterrus, I do!!! Dirty hack for a dirty work I'm trying to do... I'm trying to test the security of some applications using ssl, with a man in the middle attack... I don't know where to start!!!
[18:34] <TheLordOfTime> i'm not sure man-in-the-middle attack stuff is on topic here
[18:34] <peterrus> wollowizard: you might want to use Backtrack for that, if the livedvd contains your tool it probably works out of the box
[18:34] <peterrus> spares a lot of time configuring and makes you get things done
[18:34] <peterrus> I should do some sales
[18:34] <peterrus> >_>
[18:35] <wollowizard> ok thanks a lot
[18:35] <StaR_ClusterS> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:35] <peterrus> wollowizard: any questions about it will be gladly answerred there, I hope XD
[18:35] <doug1> Anyone know how I can set the target directory for deb file build by fakeroot?
[18:35] <peterrus> StaR_ClusterS: stop spamming that it makes no sense
[18:35] <peterrus> doug1: read its manpage?
[18:35] <wollowizard> peterrus, thanks again!!!
[18:35] <peterrus> man <program name>
[18:36] <rjune> peterrus, doesn't seem to matter. next event comes in at useless low volume anyway
[18:36] <doug1> peterrus: already have. Not much there. I just can't believe it's not possible.
[18:37] <peterrus> rjune: might be bug then, you can report that and see if more people have the issue
[18:37] <peterrus> doug1: its a very long time since I used that, so I cant help you there
[18:37] <doug1> peterrus: Is there a more up to date way to make debian packages?
[18:38] <StaR_ClusterS> Help for Intel® Core™ i3-2120 video driver for ubuntu 12.10
[18:38] <peterrus> doug1: I wouldn´t know
[18:38] <iheb> \join #hackspace
[18:38] <StaR_ClusterS> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[18:38] <TheLordOfTime> doug1, try #ubuntu-packaging
[18:38] <doug1> TheLordOfTime: k
[18:38] <TheLordOfTime> (that's a channel by the way)
[18:39] <StaR_ClusterS> help ?
[18:39] <peterrus> StaR_ClusterS: that is not the way this channel works
[18:39] <peterrus> you have to ask a proper question
[18:39] <peterrus> this makes no sense
[18:39] <ikonia> StaR_ClusterS: i3-2120 is not a video card
[18:39] <peterrus> and even if it made sense, you dont spam it
[18:39] <OerHeks> StaR_ClusterS, you might want to add the x-swat ppa for newer intel drivers > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[18:39] <ikonia> why ?
[18:40] <ikonia> why does he need to add that PPA
[18:40] <ikonia> you don't even know the problem or the video card
[18:40] <ikonia> think before pushing random stuff on people
[18:42] <zykotick9> ikonia: s/pushing/suggesting/  but i agree with your point.  suggesting unsupported (ie PPA) solutions right of the bat, is very premature.  especially without any details.
[18:43] <StaR_ClusterS> OerHeks, and ?
[18:43] <StaR_ClusterS> no 12.10
[18:43] <ikonia> StaR_ClusterS: I strongly advise you not to randomly add a PPA
[18:43] <OerHeks> StaR_ClusterS, forget that ppa, we need more details of your problem first
[18:45] <hillary_l> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module" ubuntu 11.10
[18:45] <hillary_l> any help
[18:45] <hillary_l> help>> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module"
[18:46] <hillary_l> ubuntu 11.10
[18:46] <thelinux> hillary_l: When this problem occured?
[18:46] <hillary_l> now
[18:47] <hillary_l> am trying to reinstall mysql
[18:47] <ikonia> hillary_l: how ?
[18:48] <bulletrulz> is unity gonna stay there for ever/
[18:48] <hillary_l> hillary@hillary-Mobile:~$ sudo gedit /var/www/index.html
[18:49] <jpds> bulletrulz: Why not.
[18:49] <abdelghani> hello
[18:49] <bulletrulz> cause unity is slow as hell
[18:49] <ikonia> hillary_l: that's not installing mysql
[18:49] <ikonia> hillary_l: that's editing a text file
[18:49] <jpds> bulletrulz: Sounds like you need a faster PC.
[18:49] <ikonia> hillary_l: and you use gksudo to launch X11 apps
[18:49] <bulletrulz> no i need my gnome back lol i installed mate so it run good
[18:50] <jpds> bulletrulz: well, your GNOME is dead and no longer supported by it's upstream developers.
[18:50] <bulletrulz> thats why i use mate
[18:50] <hillary_l> sorry it is apache2
[18:50] <bulletrulz> ubuntu should pick up mate and make like a matebuntu
[18:51] <thelinux> bulletrulz: What is your system configuration? I have dual-core 2.0 GHz, NVIDIA 8400 GS 512 MB, 1 GB RAM DDR2, Unity here runs perfectly fine, really fast.
[18:51] <hillary_l> you are right am editing a text file
[18:51] <bulletrulz> thelinux, netbook
[18:51] <bulletrulz> 1gb ram
[18:52] <bulletrulz> 1.6ghz duel core processer
[18:52] <thelinux> bulletrulz: That's actually great idea, but Mint 13 is running MATE, and Mint is based on Ubuntu. Too bad Unity doesn't run on your netbook, it would be great DE for it, since it saves workspace.
[18:53] <yakeb> hi #ubuntu, i am trying to get dual monitor support to work and am not having any luck. i have an nvidia geforce 8200 onboard and geforce 9400 gt pci. i have tried the drivers from nvidia and i get no video at all. with the default noveau driver i only get a display on one screen. any advice would be appreciated.
[18:53] <thelinux> yakeb: Have you tried to install from software sources, additional drivers tab?
[18:53] <yakeb> btw, kernel is 3.0.0-26 generic and dist is 11.10 oneric.
[18:54] <thelinux> yakeb: Type in dash additional drivers, it should offer download for your graphics card.
[18:55] <bulletrulz> matebuntu when mate gets more stable
[18:55] <yakeb> that was the first thing i tried, when i did that, i had no display at all, when it booted it up, the monitor light on both screens were orange, as though they were not detected at all. i was able to ssh in and roll back, following some instructions i found online.
[18:56] <thelinux> yakeb: Turn off your onboard driver.
[18:56] <hansen> hi
[18:56] <hansen> i took so much viagra
[18:56] <thelinux> yakeb: Turn off your onboard driver with BIOS.
[18:56] <hansen> who wants to rub my erection off
[18:56] <Erik_D> !ot
[18:56] <hansen> hey Erik_D
[18:56] <KI4RO> hansen: not appropriate here!
[18:57] <yakeb> well, i have one monitor plugged in to the VGA port of the onboard, and one plugged into the VGA port for the PCI card.
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> hansen  wrong channel
[18:57] <DarKMode> hansen try puting your d*ck on the power source
[18:57] <dougbb> I have 2 sound cards, the built-in intel, and an hdmi on my graphics card ... previously sound was coming out of the intel card just fine, but now it isn't, and none of the solutions I have found on line have helped
[18:57] <mariella> ciao
[18:57] <yakeb> I tried changing the default graphics card via BIOS and every other configuration imaginable.
[18:57] <mariella> !list
[19:00] <Fuzzles> when i boot my laptop it displays windows 7 and ubuntu but when i click ubuntu it displays a grub version to select how do i get rid of this?
[19:00] <keruna> i am having trouble with ffmpeg. i use this code: find -name '*wma' -exec ffmpeg -i {} -acodec vorbis -ab 128k {}.ogg \;   and when i try and play song i get error:not a vorbis file. I am confused and havent found much googling. Maybe i have but am too simple to know it ;P  help please.
[19:00] <thelinux> DarKMode: Stop. Please.
[19:03] <thelinux> keruna: mplayer -ao pcm -o fileout.wav filein.wma oggenc -vo file.ogg fileout.wav
[19:03] <thelinux> keruna: ffmpeg -i sample.wma -acodec vorbis -aq 100 sample.ogg
[19:03] <anthony_r> Hi folks, the Backup app keeps failing in Ubintu 12.10 (quantal).  Where could I find the logs for the backup app to review?
[19:03] <gazzwi86> I'm using Ubuntu, and trying to get php mail() to work.  I have installed sendmail but still can't seem to get it working.  I can telnet over port 25 so not sure why I'm getting the following error:
[19:04] <gazzwi86> stat=Deferred: Connection timed out with [<IP_ADDRESS>]
[19:04] <thelinux> keruna: Sorry, try this: ffmpeg -i sample.wma -acodec vorbis -aq 100 sample.ogg
[19:04] <thelinux> keruna: ffmpeg -i sample.wma -acodec vorbis -aq 128 sample.ogg
[19:04] <derbie> Hello
[19:04] <thelinux> derbie: Hello.
[19:04] <derbie> Can microsoft office 2010 run on ubuntu?
[19:05] <keruna> thelinux: are you saying all four are viable options?
[19:05] <keruna> thelinux: er, three options
[19:05] <thelinux> thelinux: Use last one.
[19:05] <thelinux> thelinux: Locate file, use last one.
[19:05] <thelinux> keruna: Locate file, use last one. Ugh, I was replying to myself.
[19:06] <keruna> thelinux: i know where file is, just trying to do batch operation with the 'find'
[19:07] <ChogyDan> gazzwi86: I tried that years ago.  Turns out, gmail doesnt accept dynamic ips, so it never worked for me.  The whole things seems like a pain more than it is worth
[19:07] <dougbb> I have 2 sound cards, the built-in intel, and an hdmi on my graphics card ... previously sound was coming out of the intel card just fine, but now it isn't, and none of the solutions I have found on line have helped
[19:08] <thatguymeho> oki guys i have a simple problem the resolution is fine but my picture seems to be bigger than the screen
[19:08] <thelinux> derbie: Yes, but with wine. Download wine with Ubuntu Software Center, and install Office with it.
[19:09] <gazzwi86> ChogyDan: how did you get round it?
[19:09] <gazzwi86> as painlessly as possible?
[19:09] <ChogyDan> gazzwi86: well, I was just playing around with php, so I just posted the results to the screen rather than try to mail them
[19:10] <ChogyDan> gazzwi86: ie, I just figured out something different for my needs
[19:10] <gazzwi86> bugger
[19:10] <thatguymeho> anyone for screen problem
[19:11] <gazzwi86> I may try post fix instead
[19:11] <ChogyDan> gazzwi86: what are you trying to do?
[19:11] <thelinux> gazzwi86: Did you port forward?
[19:12] <thatguymeho> my screen resolution seems to be larger than the screen and it should be in the borders how can i fix this
[19:13] <thelinux> gazzwi86: You need to have open specific ports you want to receive connections. Port forwarding is the solution.
[19:13] <gazzwi86> I'm just trying to send mail from php
[19:13] <gazzwi86> I'm used to using cPanel or the like and just using the mail config on that
[19:14] <abdelghani> hello
[19:14] <thelinux> gazzwi86: If your computer acts like server you need to have port forwarded those ports which you're using.
[19:14] <thelinux> abdelghani: Hello.
[19:14] <gazzwi86> thelinux: its a server on rackspace
[19:14] <gazzwi86> I'm not playing locally
[19:15] <Gabor_> Hi all! Can anyone help in data recovering from a repartioned drive?
[19:15] <thelinux> gazzwi86: Sorry than for wasting your time buddy.
[19:15] <yakeb> thelinux: thank you for your help. i will try that and see how it goes.
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> !recover > Gabor_ start here
[19:15] <gazzwi86> thelinux: no worries :)
[19:15] <gazzwi86> thanks for y help
[19:16] <thelinux> Gabor_: I think it˙s possible to do that with GPart.
[19:16] <dtcrshr> jrib: iv followed this guide, since theres no /Desktop folder, as I changed the value to the desktop path to $HOME/Desktop it shows the /home files into the desktop
[19:16] <jrib> dtcrshr: what?
[19:16] <dtcrshr> http://askubuntu.com/questions/182917/desktop-folder-and-files-disappeared
[19:17] <thelinux> drcrshr: What is the problem buddy? I may help.
[19:17] <Gabor_> ubottu: thanks
[19:17] <dougbb> I have 2 sound cards, the built-in intel, and an hdmi on my graphics card ... previously sound was coming out of the intel card just fine, but now it isn't, and none of the solutions I have found on line have helped
[19:17] <Gabor_> thelinux:thanks
[19:17] <thelinux> dtcrshr: What's the problem?
[19:18] <dtcrshr> thelinux: hello! the problem is that after iv updated this notebook from 10 to 12.04, my desktop files were deleted
[19:19] <dr_willis> looked in the Desktop directory? any other files in your home missing?
[19:20] <dr_willis> the upgrade process shouldent be touching anything in the users home.
[19:20] <dtcrshr> no. all my files are there, the folders with music, video, documents all are just fine. only the files I had left on the desktop to easy of use were deleted
[19:20] <dtcrshr> the /home/user/desktop folder are empty, in all users
[19:20] <thelinux> dtcrshr: Did you do clean install? Or direct upgrade from 10.04? Try to move files from Desktop, access them from Home. Than put them back in.
[19:21] <thelinux> dtcrshr: Oh I though you said they were there and you couldn't see them.
[19:21] <dtcrshr> thelinux: no. The installation went popping up that the 10 would be no longer supported, and suggested the update. Iv only clicked up the button
[19:22] <dtcrshr> no, im searching for them via terminal. Iv also tryind to use a know file name I had with "find filename.ext" but its nowhere
[19:22] <dr_willis> it would be the 'Desktop' directory with  a upper case D.  /home/yourusername/Desktop
[19:22] <thelinux> dtcrshr: find | grep desktop
[19:22] <lmat> Do posix tools ever have multiple syntaxes? (synopses)
[19:22] <lmat> How many people are in #bash? Is there a party in there?
[19:23] <thelinux> dtcrshr: Edit this: ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[19:23] <fego> dtcrshr: find / -name filename.ext -print 2>dev/null
[19:23] <lmat> I thought I've seen some tools with syntaxes like
[19:24] <lmat> toolname  -i inputfile -o outdir
[19:24] <thelinux> dtcrshr: And make sure everything in that file is like this: XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Desktop"
[19:24] <thelinux> XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR="$HOME/Downloads"
[19:24] <thelinux> XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR="$HOME/"
[19:24] <thelinux> XDG_PUBLICSHARE_DIR="$HOME/Share"
[19:24] <thelinux> XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="$HOME/Documents"XDG_MUSIC_DIR="$HOME/Music"XDG_PICTURES_DIR="$HOME/Pictures"XDG_VIDEOS_DIR="$HOME/Videos"
[19:24] <dtcrshr> thelinux: well, as I edit this to point up to another folder, since the Desktop (or even desktop) folder inside /home/user/ dont exist, the /home content is displayed on the desktop, already went this path
[19:24] <FloodBot1> thelinux: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:24] <lmat> and     toolname -p inputdir -d outfile
[19:24] <dr_willis> you coult search faster with the locate command. after you update its database
[19:24] <dtcrshr> thnks fego ill give a shot
[19:24] <lmat> But I can't find any now... I've looked at grep, ls, wget..
[19:24] <dougbb> dtcrshr: you have to recreate the Desktop folders
[19:25] <lmat> hey! there's one... mawk
[19:25] <dtcrshr> dougbb: but where my files went?
[19:25] <fego> lmat: what exactly you are trying to achieve?
[19:25] <dougbb> dtcrshr: no idea
[19:25] <dtcrshr> they are "hidden" before I create the folders? Im scared to create the folder again and it overwrite the files
[19:25] <dr_willis> dtcrshr: look in /lost+found perhaps
[19:25] <dtcrshr> already looked dr_willis
[19:25] <dtcrshr> nothing interesting
[19:26] <thelinux> dtcrshr: Aren't they hidden? Go to Desktop, View, Show hidden files.
[19:26] <fun10small> #CoRaZoN-GyTaNo
[19:26] <dougbb> dtcrshr: If you don't see the folders doing 'ls -l' in a terminal, they are gone
[19:26] <lmat> fego: I'm trying to create a program that will create and explore linux raster fonts.
[19:26] <derbie> thelinux: with wine will i have all the features available in office 2010?
[19:26] <dtcrshr> I have a bunch of pictures, nothing into lost and found
[19:26] <dr_willis> If he has no Desktop directory  that is weird
[19:26] <thelinux> derbie: Yes.
[19:26] <dtcrshr> no thelinux iv tryed ls -lha , lhs, and a bunch of othres
[19:26] <derbie> Thank you
[19:26] <dtcrshr> dr_willis: my installation is in pt_BR, its Area de Trabalho
[19:26] <dtcrshr> but its empty
[19:27] <dougbb> meanwhile ... is there a better channel for me to ask my sound question in?
[19:27] <derbie> Hello jCuber, xubuntu works well, thanks for the recommendation
[19:27] <dtcrshr> there were no change of language in the updating proccess, is was installed on the first place the 10 version already in ptBR
[19:27] <fego> lmat: if you need text manipulation there are native unix like filters available like grep, sed and awk
[19:27] <derbie> jcuber: on amilo pro v3505 i mean
[19:27] <lmat>  fego I don't.
[19:28] <jCuber> derbie, Haha, you're welcome!
[19:28] <lmat> fego: I was looking for a tool that has multiple syntaxes.
[19:28] <lmat> fego: I found one: "man grep" (interestingly grep --help seems to be wrong.)
[19:29] <dtcrshr> fego: your syntaxe gave me an error - "bash: dev/null: file or folder not found
[19:29] <fego> lmat: all the utilities you will find in linux adheres to GNU syntax
[19:29] <cherr> this is a simple question, but i'm  fairly new to ubuntu. how would i go about turning on/off the firewall and configuring it?
[19:29] <ikonia> dtcrshr: /dev/null
[19:29] <fego> dtcrshr: the file is /dev/null
[19:29] <ikonia> dtcrshr: pay attention
[19:30] <KI4RO> .
[19:30] <dr_willis> cherr:  its not on by default
 dtcrshr: find / -name filename.ext -print 2>dev/null
[19:30] <dr_willis> !firewall
[19:30] <lmat> fego: hmm..
[19:30] <dtcrshr> it would be then filename.exe -print /dev/null ?
[19:30] <fego> dtcrshr: sorry it was a typo
[19:30] <lmat> fego: So, is the "PATTERN" parameter to grep required or not?
[19:30] <ikonia> lmat: that's what you are searching for
[19:30] <ikonia> lmat: so "yes"
[19:30] <cherr> how would i turn it on?
[19:31] <mechteam> need help about DNS issue on 12.04 because I am using remastersys dist mode
[19:31] <jrib> cherr: read the documentation ubottu has sent you please
[19:31] <gordonjcp> cherr: don't bother
[19:31] <gordonjcp> cherr: are you running a server?
[19:31] <fego> lmat: grep takes regular expressions or hard coded strings as patterns, you want to search in your input
[19:31] <cherr> oh ok i missed that ubottu, thank you.
[19:31] <cherr> not running a server
[19:31] <gordonjcp> cherr: are you behind NAT?
[19:31] <mechteam> need help about DNS issue on 12.04...is there any package to handle DNS query in simple way
[19:31] <dtcrshr> well, -print /dev/null gave another error, but this only telling the usage of the find command. if i set -print/dev/null it gives a command error
[19:32] <cherr> no
[19:32] <ikonia> dtcrshr: READ the command
[19:32] <fego> dtcrshr: there should be a space after "print"
[19:32] <gordonjcp> cherr: no?
[19:32] <gordonjcp> cherr: how are you connected to the Internet?
[19:32] <dr_willis> cherr: desktop or server.. dosent matter
[19:32] <dtcrshr> ikonia, iv read this <fego> dtcrshr: find / -name filename.ext -print 2>dev/null trying to figure out the typo
[19:32] <ikonia> dtcrshr: show me the exact command you are using
[19:32] <cherr> i'm sorry, i am gordon
[19:33] <ikonia> dtcrshr: cut and paste the exact command you are using
[19:33] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: well, it's only really useful to run a firewall on a machine that is *directly* connected to the world-facing Internet
[19:33] <dr_willis>  2>/dev/null
[19:33] <fego> dtcrshr: find / -name filename.ext -print 2>/dev/null
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> dtcrshr  the slach
[19:33] <gordonjcp> cherr: tbh it's unlikely a firewall will do anything useful for you
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> dr_willis  was faster
[19:33] <dtcrshr> ikonia: find / -name 12M2U00763.MPG -print /dev/null
[19:33] <dr_willis> gordonjcp:  tell that to microsoft.   ;)
[19:33] <ikonia> dtcrshr: !!¬!!!!!!!!!
[19:33] <cherr> gordonjcp ok thanks for the help!
[19:33] <gordonjcp> dr_willis: I don't see why they're relevant
[19:33] <ikonia> dtcrshr: 2>/dev/null
[19:33] <ikonia> dtcrshr: why are you not reading the example
[19:33] <jtee> i have a MAXTOR model 6Y060L0 (60G) hard drive that is recognized by BIOS (it's in the boot order map) and is recognized by the ubuntu after boot but not seen by grub.  The command "geometery (hd1)" returns with a no drive found error... Any clues?
[19:33] <dtcrshr> hm, thanks
[19:34] <ikonia> dtcrshr: if you pay this little attention you will fail
[19:34] <jtee> ..after boot, I can even mount the (hd1,0) partition (hdb1) to a mount point, /mnt/test, and see all the windows files
[19:34] <gordonjcp> cherr: basically if you're behind some sort of broadband router that does NAT (which is pretty much all of them) you are sufficiently insulated from the outside Internet and you needn't really care about firewalls
[19:34] <Lawliet9> #
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> jtee: does grub load?
[19:34] <dtcrshr> sorry ikonia i understood that the > were misspelled for the /
[19:34] <dtcrshr> i need both
[19:34] <Lawliet9> #canal
[19:34] <dtcrshr> sorry ikonia fego
[19:34] <mechteam> need help about DNS issue on 12.04 because I am using remastersys dist mode
[19:34] <dr_willis> but MS does their firewalll 'mentality' in the reverse. its to often keep bad apps from affecting the rest of the lan. people think linux works the same way.. but its very different
[19:34] <ikonia> dtcrshr: no, you need the >
[19:34] <jtee> ActionParsnip, I boot through grub
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> jtee: so you do get the grub menu at boot (If you single boot, hold SHIFT at boot)
[19:35] <jtee> ActionParsnip, the geometry command doesn't see the drive and the windows boot (chainloader) command doesn't find the drive
[19:35] <cherr> gordonjcp: ok, i'm more of a hardware guy so networking is something i need to learn more about, but yeah i'm running through a regular router
[19:35] <gaby> hello - i have just installed ubuntu 12.10 but every time i try to access my other HDD or USB ... it says ERROR unable to mount ......any help???????
[19:35] <fego> dtcrshr: "2>" redirects the error messsages to /dev/null file
[19:35] <dr_willis> cherr:  theres no services listening by default normally. so its more locked down by default then how windowx works
[19:35] <jtee> ActionParsnip, so, I am able to look at thinks with the grub cli
[19:35] <dtcrshr> more /dev/null is empty
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> gaby: what filesystem does the partition use?
[19:35] <dtcrshr> so, no errors.
[19:35] <ikonia> dtcrshr: show me the exact command you are using
[19:36] <ikonia> dtcrshr: show me with cut and paste
[19:36] <dr_willis> cherr:  unless you do some port forwarding, you should be safe
[19:36] <dtcrshr> and no files. im desperate. how could possibly an update via command line purge the desktop files from an user?
[19:36] <fego> dtcrshr: /dev/null is a null bucket
[19:36] <gaby> ActionParsnip: NTFS
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> jtee: if you use a chroot from a liveCD, you can upgrade the OS and reinstall Grub to the MBR
[19:36] <cherr> dr_willis: ahh ok, so with this type of os i don't really need to worry as much about protecting from outside in the WAN?
[19:36] <dtcrshr> well, im trying this now - find / -name 12M2U00763.MPG -print 2>/dev/null
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> gaby: when you last unplugged it from a system, did you use the 'safey remove' functionality
[19:36] <dr_willis> cherr:  correct. no services installed to listen = no way to get in
[19:36] <ikonia> dtcrshr: and what is the output
[19:36] <dougbb> dtcrshr: it certainly should not do that, but that's why you're supposed to back up your data before you do upgrades
[19:36] <cherr> dr_willis: yeah not forwarding to my port
[19:36] <dtcrshr> nothing
[19:36] <dtcrshr> goes back to prompt
[19:37] <ikonia> dtcrshr: right, so that file does not exist on your search
[19:37] <dtcrshr> do i need to use sudo?
[19:37] <dtcrshr> ikonia: it was on my desktop before the updates
[19:37] <dr_willis> cherr:  biggest danget i see to a ubuntu box is the user/admin doing somthing silly. ;)
[19:37] <jtee> ActionParsnip, grub is working just dandy... It sits on (hd0) and runs the show fine.  Where would I reinstall grub to?
[19:37] <cherr> dr_willis: awesome, learning a lot i should just sit here and read to learn about stuff haha
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> jtee: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[19:37] <ikonia> dtcrshr: then it should be in the Desktop directory in your home dir
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> jtee: you'd put it in the MBR, the chroot will allow you to run updates and the newer grub may fly better
[19:37] <cherr> dr_willis: haha i understand, thanks for the info
[19:37] <ikonia> dtcrshr: or it should be your desktop now
[19:38] <andreligne> Hi! I'm trying change my output-sound to my USB-headset. It's listed in xfce4-mixer and gnome-mixer but not in pavucontrol. How do I change it to the headset? :)
[19:38] <gaby> ActionParsnip: they are not in another system and not unplugged - its on the same machine here - and also the USB with Fat32 system file ... they are not mountable here . ... and YESSSS i always use SAFE REMOVE
[19:38] <awaad> When using GSettings with Python in order to control what systray icons to appear in my Unity GUI, I get the following error:
[19:38] <jtee> ActionParsnip, it's on the MBR of hd0 already
[19:38] <awaad> Settings schema 'desktop.unity.panel' is not installed
[19:38] <awaad> Any one can help ?
[19:38] <dtcrshr> ikonia: but its not. ...
[19:38] <ikonia> dtcrshr: then it's gone
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> gaby: I suggest you put it in a Windows PC (or boot to Windows if you dual boot) and chkdsk the NTFS partition
[19:40] <dtcrshr> ikonia: does ubuntu register any logs from the update? maybe on the proccess somewhere i can see what deleted the desktop, so I could report this bug
[19:40] <cosmicfires> I'm using 12.4 with Xfce and I have a program's window stuck under the panel at the top of my screen, I tried restarting the program. How can I move the window?
[19:40] <dtcrshr> its a huge problem, a user to be confident using the update system from ubuntu and lost his files
[19:40] <ikonia> dtcrshr: the update process doesn't delete files of your desktop
[19:41] <dtcrshr> but it did!
[19:41] <ikonia> it didn't
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> cosmicfires: if you hold ALT you can drag the app from ANY part of the window
[19:41] <cosmicfires> thanks Action
[19:41] <dtcrshr> there were no time into the update "do you want to delete all your desktop files?"
[19:41] <jtee> ActionParsnip, It is a pretty ancient version of Grub... wish me luck as I upgrade
[19:41] <trism> awaad: can you pastebin the code?
[19:41] <dtcrshr> it simply updated and purged my desktop
[19:41] <ikonia> dtcrshr: no, it didn't
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: in a terminal, if you run:   ls ~/Desktop
[19:42] <mechteam> ActionParsnip i need help about DNS issue on 12.04...is there any package to handle DNS query in simple way
[19:42] <jtee> ActionParsnip, .... says 0.97!
[19:42] <cosmicfires> ActionParsnip it doesn't work
[19:42]  * ActionParsnip bets ikonia that nautilus isn't running :)
[19:42] <trism> awaad: though the schema is actually com.canonical.Unity.Panel so that may be your issue
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> jtee: what release did you install?
[19:42] <jrib> ActionParsnip: i'll take that bet ;)
[19:42] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: I'll bet he's just deleted it based on the total lack of attention to detail he was showing when typing find and piping things to /dev/null
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> mechteam: nslookup will query your DNS servers for a name to IP  resolution, if that's what you mean
[19:43] <dtcrshr> ikonia: i just plugged the notebook on our network, and clicked "update"
[19:43] <ikonia> I disagree
[19:43] <dtcrshr> rebooted, updated again, till 12.04. last boot on unity and desktop files were gone
[19:44] <dtcrshr> I would probably backup the desktop folder it in the proccess of updating from gnome to unity the desktop were purged
[19:44] <babyswizz> pls i have been trying to install a package called liblwp-protocol-https-perl_6.03-1_all.deb offline but i get a dpkg dependency error saying i need to install libwww-perl and when i try to install this package offline too i still get a dpkg dependency error saying i have to install liblwp-protocol-https-perl_6.03-1_all.deb. its like the two package depend on each other. what do i do
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: if you press CTRL+ALT+T   and run:   nautilus     do they show?
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: Unity isn't a desktop, it's a shell for Gnome
[19:45] <jCuber> babyswizz, you need to install all of the dependencies before you can install the package
[19:45] <cosmicfires> right click on the icon in the panel and choose Move and I can move it
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> cosmicfires: is the partition mounted read only
[19:45] <jCuber> babyswizz, all packages have their own dependencies, which is why people tend to install their packages from apt-get which installs all of the dependencies
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> cosmicfires: or do you mean the panel on the left in Unity?
[19:46] <cosmicfires> I'm not using unity, using xfce
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> cosmicfires: gotcha
[19:46] <dtcrshr> ActionParsnip: no, it simply opens the nautilus file browser. On my /home/user all other folders are there with theyr content, I just have nothing on the desktop
[19:46] <cosmicfires> I figured out how to do it, just right click on the window's icon
[19:46] <babyswizz> jcuber, in this case it seems two dependencies actually depend on each other, how then do i install these two dependencies
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: are there files in the Desktop folder?
[19:47] <jCuber> babyswizz, Install them at the both time?
[19:47] <jCuber> babyswizz, *same time
[19:47] <dtcrshr> ActionParsnip: so, considering the only thing done was the update, the files should be on the computer any other place. The desktop folder is empty
[19:47] <babyswizz> j cuber how do i install both at the same time
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: even if you show hidden files? Just to cover bases
[19:48] <billbear> orang indonesia ada ?
[19:48] <dtcrshr> well, im trying via terminal, iv searched with ls -lha
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> !id
[19:48] <dtcrshr> and ls -lhs
[19:48] <jCuber> babyswizz, "dpkg -i package1 package2"
[19:48] <dtcrshr> the personal folder and files were not encripted
[19:48] <keko> hello
[19:49] <jCuber> !id | billbear
[19:49] <andreligne> I wanna play sound through a device that is listed with aplay -l, but isn't available in pavucontrol
[19:49] <andreligne> Any ideas on how to do that?
[19:49] <keko> what is the difference between xchat and xchat-gnome
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: if you run:   sudo updatedb   then use 'locate' to find file names you know that should be on the desktop
[19:49] <dtcrshr> hmm ill do that
[19:50] <jCuber> keko, xchat-gnome is more of a stripped down version of the original xchat
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> dtcrshr: why store data on the desktop, thats a really messy way to store data
[19:50] <BrainPaid> hello
[19:50] <jCuber> BrainPaid, Hi!
[19:50] <babyswizz> jcuber thanks so much
[19:50] <Fatguy> anyone know much about the network management in 12.10 server(GUI) i'm only able to modify properties in one of my connections
[19:51] <keko> thanks <jCuber
[19:51] <BrainPaid> Can I make a question?
[19:51] <jCuber> babyswizz, No problem! Remember, Google is your friend!
[19:51] <jCuber> keko, No problem mate
[19:51] <BrainPaid> I installed kubuntu (kde) under the ubuntu 11.10.
[19:51] <episteme> morning everyone! quick vsftpd question (already tried in #vsftpd, but no response). I'm getting a critical error when trying to connect with a local_user. What causes this and how can i change it? This is a fresh install and the only changes i made to the .conf file are turning off anonymous and turning on local enable. TIA
[19:52] <BrainPaid> I installed kubuntu (kde) under the ubuntu 11.10. I want back to ubuntu. How?
[19:52] <jCuber> episteme, What kind of error are you getting? If it's along one, use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[19:53] <episteme> BrainPaid: you should be able to choose the environment you want at login
[19:53] <BrainPaid> Mans? Can you answer my quest?
[19:53] <BrainPaid> I installed kubuntu (kde) under the ubuntu 11.10. I want back to ubuntu. How?
[19:53] <episteme> jCuber: simply getting Critical error. Could not connect
[19:53] <billbear> halosemua
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> BrainPaid  logout, select ubuntu, login
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> BrainPaid: log off, log into the original session
[19:54] <BrainPaid> But I want back to Unity.
[19:54] <episteme> jCuber: so i switch anonymous back on and logged in and it worked find. I'm only getting this with local enable set to yes and anonymous set to no
[19:54] <BrainPaid> But I want back to Unity.
[19:54] <BrainPaid> But I want back to Unity.
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> BrainPaid: then select that at the login screen
[19:54] <BrainPaid> I want uninstall kde and I back to Uniity
[19:55] <BrainPaid> I know yours answers
[19:55] <Stuz719> brainpaid, i'm with actionparsnip on this. uninstall kde using synaptic once you've logged in in a different environment
[19:55] <dtcrshr> ActionParsnip: I tottally agree with you. Desktop shouldnt be a place to work with files, since documents, music, video folders are there and helps the user to separate its files. But its like this, iv convinced this user to go for ubuntu, since he was using some pirate software and ubuntu would suit him just fine. So iv installed on his notebook ubuntu about an year ago. Since them he is a happy user, i cant possibly worry if he is using the
[19:55] <dtcrshr>  desktop, a pendrive, his documments folder and so on. Since he received a message form the update manager that his version would not be supported, and worried about the update proccess he gave me the notebook to update. I have just plugged it up, into my personal user, and started the update proccess, that I almost didnt worried much, only clicked up the "update" button once in a while between the reboots. When he came here to get his cpter
[19:55] <dtcrshr> back, logged up into his user, the desktop were unity, and there were no files there. First think was checking via terminal, on his /home/user/desktop folder
[19:55] <dtcrshr> whici was empty
[19:55] <FloodBot1> dtcrshr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:55] <Stuz719> i think
[19:55] <BrainPaid> Basic uninstalling is leaves bugs.
[19:55] <BrainPaid> Basic uninstalling is leaves bugs.
[19:56] <dtcrshr> I did nothing, and im into a very bad situation, since I never imagined that an update went this far to delete user files from the /home folder
[19:56] <xangua> !puregnome | BrainPaid drop the attitude ;)
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> BrainPaid  uninstall is not needed, just select the other DE
[19:56] <gordonjcp> dtcrshr: it shouldn't, tbh
[19:56] <BrainPaid> xangua: :D
[19:56] <gordonjcp> dtcrshr: are you *sure* you updated and didn't format the /home partition?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> BrainPaid: is your system damaged, it keeps pasting the same thing twice
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> BrainPaid: I'd look into that
[19:56] <xangua> BrainPaid: you are more like a brainpain :)
[19:57] <BrainPaid> MonkeyDust
[19:57] <BrainPaid> please wait ahead I give a link for you
[19:57] <dtcrshr> gordonjcp: its not an install. no boot with cds or pendrives, the update were made totally via the ubuntu interface
[19:57] <Fatguy> anyone know much about the network management in 12.10 server(GUI) i'm only able to modify properties in one of my connections
[19:57] <dtcrshr> no partition quetions, just the next next update manager doing his job