[10:37]  * BUGabundo bets rsync link already has final
[10:37] <rubso> ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/releases/9.04/release/kubuntu-9.04-dvd-i386.iso
[10:37] <therp> are the mirror using bittorrent to sync?
[10:38] <loomsen1> minimec_: oouuuhhhh hurts
[10:38] <therp> probably not... but in this case it would make total sense ;)
[10:38] <joaopinto> usually mirrors use rsync
[10:38] <dn4> loomsen1, the file system was already created on the usb drive
[10:38] <X3> hi
[10:38] <mntnpngn> what is ubuntu-9.04-mid-lpia.img ?
[10:38] <BUGabundo> therp: no... just plain old rsync
[10:39] <mrwes> has the the feeding frenzy began?
[10:39] <X3> website news http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-9.04-desktop annouces release of jauty for today yet nothing is out
[10:39] <loomsen1> lol
[10:39] <freakabcd> BUGabundo, i see the kubuntu dvd iso. but from my experience only the cd iso for ubuntu gets released straight away
[10:39] <joaopinto> X3, the day is not over yet
[10:39] <X3> lol
[10:39] <mntnpngn> cca45d814048b5b322773561ad7c75d8 *ubuntu-9.04-dvd-i386.iso
[10:39] <freakabcd> i've had to wait a day or so to get the dvd iso previously. hopwe it is not the case today
[10:39] <mntnpngn> is that correct md5 ?
[10:39] <loomsen1> dn4:  so you wanna delete the actual content and create a whole new one?
[10:40] <dn4> loomsen1, nope I just want to delete files on the usb drive
[10:40] <dn4> apparently Jaunty likes to automount the file system as Read-Only
[10:40] <X3> joao pinto amigo does the 23rd correspond to UK 23rd or another timezone 23rd
[10:40] <cellx> kubuntu is now released for amd64 and i386
[10:41] <freakabcd> mntnpngn, where did you find the dvd iso?
[10:41] <X3> indeed
[10:41] <mntnpngn> it looks like isos were built on 21st
[10:41] <loomsen1> dn4: you most likely will have to deflate the file system first
[10:41] <freakabcd> uh.. you're looking in the dvd directory?
[10:41] <nikolas_> hi guys, when should we expect the final release of 9,4?
[10:41] <dn4> loomsen1, what does that mean?
[10:41] <mrwes> I smell blood in the water
[10:41] <mrwes> heh
[10:41] <rubso> cellx: where do i find the cd iso?
[10:42] <X3> nicolas 23rd mate today sometime
[10:42] <loomsen1> if you had a bootable image you orlly have a squashfs, little endian, ramfs or so image
[10:42] <X3> cellx links pls
[10:42] <cellx> ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/release/
[10:42] <freakabcd> X3, well.. some of us in AU/NZ are going to 24th pretty soon :)
[10:42] <mntnpngn> I know where the isos are but I'm not touching it...   I should let it mirror first
[10:42] <freakabcd> mntnpngn, but these are the one not from 21st right?
[10:42] <X3> freakabcd: no shit really
[10:43] <freakabcd> if yes, i know where those are
[10:43] <rubso> cellx: that's DVD. where is the CD version?
[10:43] <freakabcd> i'm waiting for a proper statement saying that those are the full release dvd isos
[10:43] <X3> freakabcd keep waiting
[10:43] <cellx> rubso: sorry, it?s only dvd...
[10:43] <anish> the ftp iso's still show 4/21
[10:44] <X3> they may be there yet the switch may have not been flicked yet
[10:44] <freakabcd> possibly
[10:44] <rubso> cellx: what!?!!! no more CD releases!?
[10:44] <cellx> rubso: no, maybe bit later...
[10:44] <BUGabundo> rubso: NO
[10:44] <anish> so when its released , everyone here just stops talking about jaunty and switches to koala ?
[10:44] <mntnpngn> freakabcd: I'm looking at the bunch of .iso, .torrent, .list, and .manifest files...   .torrent has timestamp of 4/23/2009 9:07 AM
[10:44] <rubso> oh, ok. thank god.
[10:44] <dn4> k I did
[10:45] <dn4> sudo chown -R dn4 /media/SEA_DISK
[10:45] <dn4> that might work it is going through 100gb of files changing permission
[10:45] <BUGabundo> dn4: what FS was the pen?
[10:45] <mntnpngn> freakabcd: however .iso file has timestamp of 4/21/2009 06:58pm
[10:45] <dn4> BUGabundo, vfat
[10:45] <dn4> wait -R is read only
[10:45] <dn4> I don't want READ ONLY I want to delete stuff
[10:46] <loomsen1> -R is recursive
[10:46] <BUGabundo> dn4: chown wont work on vfat
[10:46] <X3> well Im gonna try the ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/releases/9.04/release/kubuntu-9.04-dvd-i386.iso in VM ill let you guys know if its the final or not soon as I have it
[10:46] <loomsen1> but you still will have to deflate your image
[10:46] <loomsen1> ---
[10:46] <BUGabundo> loomsen1: 3rd time: preface nicks
[10:46] <freakabcd> mntnpngn, 6:58 pm? i can see dvd-iso with 21/4/09 2006 hrs
[10:46] <BUGabundo> dn4: maybe it was not unmount properly
[10:46] <dn4> BUGabundo, any ideas then on how to access the file system and delete stuff?
[10:46] <loomsen1> BUGabundo: i'm really sorry buddy, honestly, i'm tryin
[10:47] <mntnpngn> hehe...  admin blocked it already
[10:47] <adnc> hello, is the exact release time known for ubuntu 9.04?
[10:47] <BUGabundo> dn4: fsck it, and then remount
[10:47] <mntnpngn> it usually happens around 7-9am EST
[10:48] <cellx> 7pm GMT maybe..
[10:48] <minimec> Yasf 'yet another system freeze' lol
[10:48] <dn4> BUGabundo, fsck /dev/sdb1 ?
[10:48] <mntnpngn> the servers are inaccessible for a day or two....
[10:48] <BUGabundo> yep
[10:48] <loomsen1> BUGabundo: dont you think he has a *.img file? mountin it still wont extract single files
[10:48] <adnc> thank you, then it is not worth waiting for it
[10:49] <loomsen1> it's most likely an Iso image
[10:49] <sint> !outyet
[10:49] <sint> :(
[10:49] <mntnpngn> anyone know what ubuntu-9.04-mid-lpia.img is?   it's 827648 KB in size
[10:49] <dn4> You must have r/w access to the filesystem or be root
[10:49] <freakabcd> mntnpngn, err.. an image?
[10:50] <slytherin> mntnpngn: lpia is low powered intel architecture, in other words atom processors.
[10:50] <BUGabundo> dn4: if the disk is not properly unmount even root wont mout it with RW
[10:50] <deany> mntnpngn, mobile edition, lpia arch (like G1 mobiles and netbooks)
[10:50] <freakabcd> perhaps you just extract it or dd it into a mid SSD
[10:50] <X3> ubottu: this is ubuntu+1
[10:50] <loomsen1> [BUGabundo: dn4:}  isos are mounted read only
[10:50] <BUGabundo> dn4: thats why i adviced u to fsck
[10:50] <mntnpngn> ahh...  nice...  thanks
[10:50] <BUGabundo> loomsen1: its a USB Drive
[10:51] <loomsen1> yes, but the image is an image
[10:51] <loomsen1> BUGabundo: otherwise he'd be able to acess files
[10:51] <BUGabundo> no
[10:51] <haggisbasheruk> i would imaging the mid image is not so good with the new intel driver
[10:51] <BUGabundo> damn! dont u read?
[10:51] <dn4> Free cluster summary wrong (468761 vs. really 100587)
[10:51] <BUGabundo> see ?
[10:51] <mntnpngn> I got .torrent files for the final release isos but trackers aren't working yet
[10:51] <td123> do they have the desktop cds yet?
[10:53] <loomsen1> BUGabundo: erm, not why this should be an evidence for any of out theories, but i obv see that sth went wrong while creating it o.O
[10:53] <dn4> odd BUGabundo when I try to correct the free cluster it doesn't do anything
[10:54] <loomsen1> (whispers: unless its a compressed FS)
[10:54] <NTAuthority> hi
[10:54] <mntnpngn> ohh... so tempting to post the link..
[10:54] <loomsen1> sup NTAuthority
[10:54] <NTAuthority> I just installed Jaunty
[10:54] <NTAuthority> and my keyboard is acting strange
[10:55] <NTAuthority> typing e's, i's and a's everywhere
[10:55] <NTAuthority> and not listening to many keys
[10:55] <loomsen1> o.O
[10:55] <NTAuthority> during typing this, the Insert menu opened 15 times
[10:55] <NTAuthority> (in Pidgien, and there are the e'se)
[10:55] <NTAuthority> on Windows, eno problems, so tehe keyboard isne't broken
[10:56] <NTAuthority> (note the extraneous e's)
[10:56] <minimec> NTAuthority: What kind of keyboard is that? PS/2 or USB? Manufacter?
[10:56] <NTAuthority> USB, apple default, worked with other Ubuntus
[10:56] <NTAuthority> (white apple plastic)
[10:56] <dn4> the FS says W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[10:57] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: is it a new account you created?
[10:57] <NTAuthority> from after install
[10:57] <BUGabundo> dn4: lets start over
[10:57] <mntnpngn> PEBKAC?
[10:57] <BUGabundo> dn4: u have an USB stick in vfat right?
[10:57] <dn4> right
[10:57] <BUGabundo> what do u have there?
[10:57] <dn4> Seagate portable USB
[10:57] <minimec> NTAuthority: I also have some regressions on my Logitech mouse. Could be xserver 1.6 related or HAL (usb).
[10:57] <NTAuthority> okay, it's normal e's, and alt-i/alt-a together
[10:58] <NTAuthority> minimec: and my mouse is less stable as well, may be
[10:59] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: you may configure it in your xorg.conf if you want it to be more stable, you probably didnt recofigure the initial xorg.conf yet right?
[10:59] <NTAuthority> still default config yeah
[11:00] <NTAuthority> offtopic by the way, WOW, kde4.2 looks really nice
[11:01] <NTAuthority> installed kdebase-workspace to run plasma in gnome, cute tasklist panel :)
[11:01] <BUGabundo> dn4: so do u have any important data there?
[11:01] <hix> hwgx
[11:01] <dn4> I think I know what happened
[11:02] <dn4> it is all due to power issues getting to the device
[11:02] <BUGabundo> ahh
[11:02] <BUGabundo> and fsck doesnt fix those?
[11:02] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: http://pastebin.com/m6b4f1de4
[11:03] <loomsen1> modify it to your likings and add it to your xorg.conf
[11:03] <mntnpngn> so...  everyone is busy installing it?
[11:03] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: restart your x server, and it should be better
[11:03] <NTAuthority> loomsen1: 'your likings', should I eknow about meouse settings ine xorg.conf?e :(
[11:03] <dn4> BUGabundo, I am fixing to say F it and delete the entire drive
[11:03] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: man xorg.conf
[11:04] <NTAuthority> and would USB mice need another device name? / man, meh
[11:04] <cavaradossi> hi, i try to add a pptp vpn to network manager, i have added correct settings but i took "failed connection timed out"
[11:04] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: nooo, just opern a terminal, and type: man xorg.conf
[11:04] <BUGabundo> guys calm down: ITS OUT
[11:04] <BUGabundo> ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/jaunty/release/
[11:04] <BUGabundo> dn4: that would be on way
[11:04] <drinkycrow> anybody tried doom3 in jaunty yet?
[11:05] <BUGabundo> dn4: fsck should work too
[11:05] <NTAuthority> wasn't planning on reading man pages today
[11:05] <leohartx> BUGabundo: i cant access this site
[11:05] <loomsen1> then happy e'ing+NT
[11:05] <loomsen1> xcat
[11:05] <cavaradossi> is there any alternative network manager except
[11:05] <cavaradossi> KVpnc?
[11:05] <loomsen1> oops, fc
[11:06] <mntnpngn> blah...  torrent is still not working
[11:06] <BUGabundo> leohartx: too much load?
[11:06] <cavaradossi> is there any alternative network manager except  KVpnc ?
[11:06] <BUGabundo> mntnpngn: still not there http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[11:06] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: i havent configured mine at all, got a logitech MX1100 with 12 buttons, all working
[11:07] <cavaradossi> anyone to help me with VPN connection ?
[11:07] <cavaradossi> pm me
[11:07] <NTAuthority> it's mostly my keyboard after tweaking mouse[alt-i]sensi[alt-i]vity
[11:07] <leohartx> BUGabundo:there is no rc in these images, i hope it's real
[11:07] <NTAuthority> my mouse fix[alt-i]e[alt-i] afte[alt-i]r tha[alt-i]t
[11:07] <mntnpngn> well..  I guess I'm lucky to have downloaded the torrent file before the server went down
[11:07] <leohartx> BUGabundo:btw, i've accessed in to it
[11:08] <td123> mntnpngn: no you aren't, no share it :P
[11:08] <deany> is it safe to add  the vbox intrepid repo to jaunty?  the deb is listed for intrepid/jaunty
[11:08] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: serioz stuff, for sure
[11:08] <loomsen1> o.O
[11:08] <haggisbasheruk> any word on PS3 image BUGabundo ?
[11:08] <td123> deany: I don't think so
[11:08] <leohartx> BUGabundo:but this final release is uploaded on 21st, too soon ?
[11:08] <td123> deany: I know that installing vbox regenerates the ramdisk and this could be a per kernel thing
[11:09] <mntnpngn> leohartx: I've noticed that too but .torrent has today's date on it
[11:09] <BUGabundo> haggisbasheruk: arent they built?
[11:09] <td123> deany: I wouldn't just add the repo without confirming if it would be ok or not
[11:09] <deany> Ubuntu 8.10 ("Intrepid Ibex") / Ubuntu 9.04 ("Jaunty Jackalope") i386 | AMD64   says its the same deb for both....
[11:09] <BUGabundo> leohartx: mirror admins just told me the 21 is FINAL... its in the .pool
[11:09] <dn4> thanks for the help anyways BUGabundo I am not sure why this stuff is happened :(
[11:09] <haggisbasheruk> duno , havent looked BUGabundo, sorry
[11:09] <BUGabundo> Desktop: http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[11:09] <NTAuthority> yay, so ctrl-alt-bksp is disabled nowadays
[11:09] <leohartx> BUGabundo: oh, i get it, ty
[11:10] <RustAU> !outyet
[11:10] <RustAU> wow 9.04 RC looks pretty
[11:10] <td123> wait, so is it released?
[11:10] <td123> what did BUGabundo paste then?
[11:10] <haggisbasheruk> notifications r nice RustAU
[11:10] <popey> link to the torrent
[11:11] <RustAU> yeah
[11:11] <td123> so torrent is up but no seeds?
[11:11] <RustAU> loads significantly faster
[11:11] <BUGabundo> RustAU: its out! really
[11:11] <RustAU> I didn't say it was out
[11:11] <Guest95599> got a question, today is april 23- where is 9.04 like fully?
[11:11] <popey> BUGabundo: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2009-April/thread.html until there is an announcement there, it isnt
[11:12] <popey> BUGabundo: you should know better
[11:12] <Paavi2_0> it's not out yet
[11:12] <Guest95599> but
[11:12] <ninjafury> After upgrading to Jaunty, Netatalk isn't working properly. Can;t mount shared drive on my mac. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[11:12] <Guest95599> its april 23rd
[11:12] <loomsen1> cmon, the bot just told us it aint out yet
[11:12] <haggisbasheruk> yes but sysv-rc-conf fiddling can make it super dupper fast RustAU ;)
[11:12] <leohartx> mntnpngn: can you give me bittorrent link ?
[11:12] <cavaradossi> anyone to help me with VPN connection ? please pm me
[11:12] <RustAU> I'm not smart enough to fiddle with that
[11:12] <haggisbasheruk> :)
[11:12] <BUGabundo> popey: i do know better! bad on me! please kick me again
[11:12] <anish> also, it aint 23rd april everywhere in the world
[11:12] <mntnpngn> trackers are not working yet
[11:13] <RustAU> is there a new font or am I picturing things?
[11:13] <td123> ok, right now I'm dling at 400KiB/s please don't start downloading 9.04 until AFTER I have finished :D
[11:13] <Guest95599> thats crap
[11:13] <loomsen1> the fonts have finally been corrected
[11:13] <deany> the only update since yesterday when i installed a daily iso, is firefox... install a daily if you cant wait..
[11:13] <Guest95599> im getting 89!
[11:14] <RustAU> sudo update-manager -d ftw
[11:14] <haggisbasheruk> yes RustAU fonts r nice n crisp
[11:14] <leohartx> only juanty-server version is available
[11:14] <BUGabundo> deany: the firefox is in security
[11:14] <BUGabundo> so it wont change the iamges
[11:14] <geophoenix> coming soon.................
[11:14] <BUGabundo> leohartx: no! desktop too
[11:14] <ninjafury> so anyone know why netatalk stops working in Jaunty?
[11:14] <Guest95599> so, you guys were never truly sure of your release date you just wanted people to hope and wait?
[11:14] <deany> im just sayin, there cant be a whole lot of difference between the last daily and the final...
[11:15] <fincan> still there is no news?
[11:15] <loomsen1> deany:  dead on, couple of lines of code
[11:15] <slytherin> cavaradossi: what help do you need with VPN?
[11:15] <td123> damn it ppl, I told you to not click the link after I finished dling 9.04, now I'm at 250kbs
[11:15] <slytherin> Guest12333: we are sure of date, we are not sure of time
[11:15] <dn4> deany, and loomsen1 wouldn't apt-get upgrade solve that issue with those lines of code?
[11:15] <RustAU> restarting for nvidia drivers :-)
[11:15] <slytherin> Guest12333: have you ever been part of release process?
[11:16] <Guest95599> so maybe this afternoon when i get home
[11:16] <loomsen1> dn4:  it would it would
[11:16] <dn4> NICE!
[11:16] <thor> it will come out at high noon gmt
[11:16] <Guest95599> do i have to uninstall the beta and reinstall a new image then?
[11:16]  * dn4 is happy he downloaded the latest release a few days ago
[11:16] <joaopinto> !beta | Guest95599
[11:16] <loomsen1> ^^
[11:17] <NTAuthority> hm
[11:17] <NTAuthority> seems to occur in tty1 as well, but not on windows
[11:18] <NTAuthority> and only after some time being booted
[11:18] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: dmesg | grep error
[11:18] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: dmesg | grep warning
[11:18] <NTAuthority> a few:
[11:18] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: then plug your keyboard/mouse out, plug it back in
[11:18] <NTAuthority> [  249.566581] keyboard.c: can't emulate rawmode for keycode 240
[11:18] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: and run dmesg | tail
[11:18]  * td123 is going to be happy in approximately 35 minutes :D
[11:19] <td123> unless I drop below 200kbs
[11:19] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: and dont post it here
[11:19] <rascal999> anyone know when 9.04 is ready?
[11:19] <td123> it's already out
[11:19] <joaopinto> !notyet
[11:19] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: pastebin.com
[11:19] <BUGabundo> rascal999: its getting synced by mirrors
[11:19] <td123> I mean
[11:19] <haggisbasheruk> for those Aspire One users out there , Kuki Linux 1.7 (based on Jaunty final) is now in testing #kukilinux for details
[11:19] <td123> ynot ready
[11:19] <BUGabundo> should be out soon
[11:19] <Yasser> what does noncdn release mean???
[11:19] <fincan> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/release/dvd/kubuntu-9.04-dvd-amd64.iso
[11:20] <NTAuthority> yasser: not-redistributed to mirrors, I think 'no Content Delivery Network'
[11:20] <td123> http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[11:20] <therp> what would be the easiest way to rebuild a jaunty package from source? is apt-build still recent?
[11:20] <NTAuthority> http://pastebin.com/m2014a854
[11:20] <loomsen1> therp: yes
[11:20] <NTAuthority> hm, may be my hub, should try directly connecting to the root hub
[11:21] <error404notfound> is there a way to get pinged as soon as jaunty is released?
[11:21] <fincan> finally :)
[11:21] <td123> error404notfound: lol?
[11:21] <Yasser> yoohoo its out!
[11:21] <Mantorp> FINNALY it's out
[11:21] <td123> error404notfound: click on my link, you can already dl it
[11:21] <fincan> yeah
[11:21] <error404notfound> td123, exactly.... i have beenw aiting for 2 weeks on this channel
[11:21] <fincan> waiting for CD :)
[11:21] <fincan> I could found only DVDs
[11:22] <td123> cd is out
[11:22] <NTAuthority> my problem seems fixed for now... now I know should replace my hub I think
[11:22] <miklcct> Where can I find the final?
[11:22] <fincan> link CD link plz
[11:22] <loomsen1> NTAuthority: good
[11:22] <td123> link is in history
[11:22] <td123> i already pasted link
[11:22] <Yasser> no torrent for unr iso???
[11:22] <error404notfound> but the site says its yet to come
[11:22] <c00p> can u update via apt yet ?
[11:22] <BUGabundo> Yasser: http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[11:23] <OsamaK_> Is <http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/> the finals?
[11:23] <BUGabundo> c00p: $ update-manager -d
[11:23] <BUGabundo> OsamaK_: yes
[11:23] <Yasser> BUGabundo, i meant netbook emix torrent
[11:23] <leohartx> td123 : i cant find it
[11:23] <td123> leohartx: look again, I'm not repasting
[11:23] <OsamaK_> great. good job all :)
[11:23] <td123> leohartx: look at OsamaK_'s link
[11:23] <joaopinto> BUGabundo, judging from the releases.ubuntu.com redirect, they use some CDN system :P
[11:23] <leohartx> OsamaK_ : great
[11:23] <leohartx> ty
[11:24] <Yasser> maan so many leechers n so little seeders...im going for the link
[11:25] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone help me fix my screen resolution... i am on jaunty now and i am unable to get screen resolution. When i boot i get a message that i915 drivers not founds and that ubuntu is running in low graphics mode
[11:25] <c00p> BUGabundo: ta
[11:25] <c00p> doing now :)
[11:25] <fincan> lol main channel blocked for chatting xD
[11:25] <fincan> http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[11:25] <BUGabundo> bbl
[11:25] <fincan> is ready :)
[11:26] <fincan> gogogogogogog
[11:26] <drinkycrow> anybody tried doom3 in jaunty yet?
[11:27] <geophoenix>  ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso            20-Apr-2009 15:30
[11:27] <geophoenix> its not ready
[11:28] <c00p> yay 400kbps for me :)
[11:28] <leohartx> i'll try dvd version this time
[11:28] <miklcct> c00p: Which mirror do you use?
[11:28] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone help me fix my screen resolution... i am on jaunty now and i am unable to get screen resolution. When i boot i get a message that i915 drivers not founds and that ubuntu is running in low graphics mode
[11:28] <Guest95599> how are you guys getting 400 kbps?
[11:28] <c00p> mirror.aarnet.edu.au :)
[11:28] <c00p> I think anyways
[11:28] <oobe> apt-get dist-upgrade doesnt do anything
[11:29] <BUGabundo> oobe: $ update-manager -d
[11:29] <BUGabundo> oobe: this is not Debian
[11:29] <oobe> that doesnt do anything either
[11:29] <PerryArmstrong> oobe; just follow the instructions here.. http://ossarchives.blogspot.com
[11:29] <noqq> You people mean with $, sudo?
[11:29] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone help me fix my screen resolution... i am on jaunty now and i am unable to get screen resolution. When i boot i get a message that i915 drivers not founds and that ubuntu is running in low graphics mode
[11:30] <miklcct> I normally download ISOs from http://ftp.hostrino.com/pub/ubuntu/cdimage/ at about 10MB/s but there is no Jaunty.
[11:30] <loomsen1> http://nl3.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/
[11:31] <BUGabundo> noqq: NO SUDO for UM
[11:31] <leohartx> miklcct: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[11:31] <PerryArmstrong> can anyone help me fix my screen resolution... i am on jaunty now and i am unable to get screen resolution. When i boot i get a message that i915 drivers not founds and that ubuntu is running in low graphics mode
[11:31] <geophoenix> you have to w8 more to download it from mirrors
[11:31] <td123> coming back when my cd dl's :d
[11:32] <Guest72275> how are people getting 400 kbps for the download(of the RC) ?
[11:32] <miklcct> Is there a mirror with Jaunty at speed more than 1MB/s?
[11:32] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel libdrm-intel1
[11:33] <geophoenix> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazxxxxxxxxDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[11:33] <drinkycrow> does jaunty implement Linux Really Flexible Sound System 3000 Ultra Edition?
[11:33] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; already installed
[11:33] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: if it still wont work check if your driver got blacklisted maybe?
[11:33] <ikonia> geophoenix: please stop that
[11:33] <loomsen1> /etc/modprobe.d/
[11:33] <loomsen1> and look around
[11:33] <geophoenix> have to stop eating on my keyboard:P
[11:34] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; can you check here..http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1115684
[11:34] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; the problem started since 8.10 and its still existing in 9.04
[11:35] <marcusdavidus> hello is me again
[11:35] <RustAU> how can I remove the mounted disk links from the desktop?
[11:35] <tucuna> It has been released!
[11:35] <tucuna> anyone wants a torrent link?
[11:35] <Guest72275> if i keep the beta updated... will i get all the fancy desktop stuff that is supposed to come with the full version of 9.04?
[11:35] <leohartx> i knew :)
[11:35] <marcusdavidus> anyone got problem with temporally slowdowns in video play ?
[11:36] <tucuna> http://colonos.wordpress.com/2009/04/23/ubuntu-904-jaunty-jackalope-has-been-released-get-torrent-here/
[11:36] <NTAuthority> who invented the 'indicator applet' - lol
[11:36] <loomsen1> LOL
[11:37] <dn4> why did marcusdavidus get banned?
[11:37] <Guest72275> is this real?
[11:37] <ikonia> dn4: don't worry about it
[11:38] <fincan> lol change channel topic :)
[11:38] <leohartx> this is amd 64 dvd version, there is no "rc" but i'll perform checksum before use it : ftp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/dvd/20090421.3/jaunty-dvd-amd64.iso
[11:38] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; hit on any solution??
[11:38] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: still readin
[11:38] <_g0tmi1k_> so its out?
[11:38] <leohartx> i cant belive that final release had came on 21st
[11:38] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; okk
[11:39] <RustAU> out at http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[11:39] <dn4> WTF
[11:39] <_g0tmi1k_> not the RC?
[11:39] <_g0tmi1k_> its final
[11:39] <_g0tmi1k_> ?
[11:39] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: guess the driver you specified is simply wrong, but i cant tell u as i dont have an intel
[11:39] <RustAU> yes
[11:39] <geophoenix> instead of hunting the link to download 9.04 , let's w8
[11:39] <_g0tmi1k_> coooooool!
[11:39] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; so how will i know that... i never got this problem in hardy
[11:39] <_g0tmi1k_> ...
[11:39] <_g0tmi1k_> but its out?
[11:39] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: could you post your actual xorg.conf into the thread? that would be helpful
[11:40] <miklcct> geophoenix: I'm urgent in getting a live CD to boot to modify my / partition.
[11:40] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; sure in a second
[11:40] <tucuna> geophoenix - why wait - just get the torrent and help distribute
[11:41] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; done
[11:41] <_g0tmi1k_> wheres the tortrent?
[11:41] <miklcct> I want to get the CD in 2 minutes.
[11:41] <_g0tmi1k_> torrent*?
[11:41] <sandralade> i have the rc installed but flash plugin wasnt working
[11:41] <geophoenix> miklcct: any Livecd can do that
[11:41] <tucuna> _g0tmi1k_ - yes, it is out
[11:41] <ikonia> dn4: please control your language, we know what WTF means and don't need to see it
[11:41] <sandralade> so i uninstalled it and installed intrepid flash
[11:41] <sandralade> is working fine
[11:42] <sandralade> one problem left
[11:42] <_g0tmi1k_> thanks for the torrent!
[11:42] <_g0tmi1k_> ^^
[11:42] <PerryArmstrong> isn't the final release not yet out. I still see only the RC
[11:42] <_g0tmi1k_> going to dl it @ uni, then seed it at home!
[11:42] <sandralade> runescape high detail crashes firefox
[11:42] <bibstha> junty is out right?
[11:42] <dn4> haha
[11:42] <sandralade> in intrepid was working ok
[11:42] <drinkycrow> anybody tried doom3 in jaunty yet?
[11:42] <joaopinto> sandralade, have you filed a bug report about it ?
[11:43] <bibstha> is Jaunty out already?
[11:43] <bibstha> where can i know?
[11:43] <sandralade> i read about the same bug
[11:43] <sandralade> it wasnt solved
[11:43] <sandralade> yet
[11:43] <bibstha> http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ says its out pls where can i find about it?
[11:43] <joaopinto> bibstha, read the topic
[11:43] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: ?
[11:43] <bibstha> !topic
[11:43] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; ???
[11:43] <tucuna> joaopinto - but that is outdated
[11:43] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: Your driver line should read i810 rather than i915
[11:44] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: try please
[11:44] <joaopinto> tucuna, no it's not
[11:44] <tucuna> yes it is
[11:44] <bibstha> joaopinto, http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/ says it is already
[11:44] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; okk i'll try that..but i was told i915 is the updated version
[11:44] <loomsen1> oh, well, possible
[11:44] <loomsen1> as i said, i dont have an intel card
[11:45] <Guest72275> :(
[11:45] <Guest72275> i detest transmission
[11:45] <Guest72275> takes forever to look up my port
[11:45] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: but u should remove all these modelines if you did not create then yourself
[11:45] <joaopinto> tucuna, bibstha , the release itself involves several announcements, web, irc, etc, the official announcement was not made yet, despite the final image being available already on some sources
[11:45] <minimec> Guest72275: Deluge is your friend...
[11:45] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: even if, you probably wont need them
[11:45] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; then how will i get all those resolutions??
[11:45]  * Guest72275 hugs Deluge then
[11:45] <Guest72275> xD
[11:46] <tucuna> joaopinto sounds like my grandfather or a priest - who cares?
[11:46] <joaopinto> tucuna, if you dont care, just don't ask !
[11:46] <naxa> hi all!
[11:46] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; i might need 1024x768 and 1024x800.... these two modes are perfect for my XP
[11:46] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: if your device is capable you'll get them, if not the moelines won't change it neither
[11:46] <tucuna> i am not asking
[11:46] <joaopinto> tucuna, so do not answer either
[11:46] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; because of these problems i decided to get a new monitor and also a graphic card
[11:47] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: this doesnt affect your XP if you have a dualboot sys
[11:47] <loomsen1> yeah, i915 is a cpl of years old right
[11:47] <minimec> PerryArmstrong: <ctrl><alt>F1, then login, 2.) sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg 3.) sudo killall gdm 4.) sudo gdm && exit That's what I would do. Like that Jaunty is choosing the driver for you.
[11:47] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; no i just said that these resolutions look good with Xp and i suppose that it might work well with ubuntu
[11:48] <Guest72275> whats more important
[11:48] <syadow> why my amarok2 cant play mp3 ??
[11:48] <Guest72275> the fact i have a sinus infection and have a quiz in math today
[11:48] <Guest72275> or ubuntu
[11:48] <ikonia> Guest72275: the first is offtopic - so I suggest dropping it
[11:48] <Guest72275> it was a joke
[11:48] <bibstha> joaopinto, woohoo.. thanks so its the official iso im guessing
[11:48] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; so shouldn't i change the code from i915 to i810??
[11:48] <minimec> syadow: I would add the medibuntu.org repo and then search for 'lame' in synaptic.
[11:49] <ikonia> bibstha: its not
[11:49] <ikonia> bibstha: wait for the announcment on the main page
[11:49] <aboSamoor>  Hi, can you help me ? I want to download a podcast. Rhythmbox is not saving the files by their titles, banshee can not continue downloading [known bug] ?!
[11:49] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: well if you say its updated... dunno
[11:49] <loomsen1> then no ^^
[11:49] <varanus> syadow: you should download the codecs, if you haven't done it already
[11:49] <joaopinto> bibstha, it is likely to be the final iso, but until it's announced, you are not sure ;)
[11:50] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1;  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  by running this i get back the same code which i got before changing it. This makes my screen resolution smaller
[11:50] <nabilelisa> hi all - is there any difference between "installing the RC now and doing a software update later on today when the final version is released" and "waiting to install the final version"?  i'd think they would have the same result if i can get the RC to install correctly, but maybe somebody here knows otherwise?
[11:50] <PerryArmstrong> and very difficult to look at the screen
[11:50] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: this only generates a default config
[11:50] <joaopinto> !beta | nabilelisa
[11:50] <bibstha> joaopinto, humm considering the fact that its not released yet.. i guess it will still take 3-4 more hours?
[11:50] <syadow> varanus, but my rythmbox can play ..... it tats meant i aldy download da codec or amarok2 got differnt codec?
[11:50] <slytherin> minimec: lame is not mp3 decoder, it is encoder
[11:50] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1;  okk then how do i come back to my GUI
[11:50] <joaopinto> bibstha, no idea, the release can happen any time :)
[11:51] <slytherin> syadow: does amarok use gstreamer as backend?
[11:51] <nabilelisa> ubottu: thanks!
[11:51] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: how? i didnt tell u to run that! i never tell anyone to run that...
[11:51] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: hold on a minute
[11:51] <loomsen1> i'm writing a minimal xorg.conf for ya
[11:52] <minimec> slytherin: yeah, I have seen that now. I thought it does both
[11:52] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1;  okk
[11:52] <Rods_Tiger> before Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04 gets released, could someone check the dialogue box when you press the 'power' icon in the bottom right of the screen, and confirm that the 'quit session' dialogue box has an entry for 'restart' that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever?
[11:52] <syadow> slytherin, i dont know
[11:53] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: could u run lspci | grep -i video please
[11:54] <loomsen1> just to make sure your bus id is correct
[11:55] <Rods_Tiger> the 'quit' icon I mean, not the 'power' icon.
[11:55] <sandralade> my first linux distro was fc 3 lol
[11:56] <BUGabundo> back after power failuer
[11:56] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: ...
[11:57] <BUGabundo> let me check release party
[11:57] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1;  no output
[11:58] <minimec> PerryArmstrong: Its lspci |grep VGA  ;)
[11:58] <loomsen1> minimec: :)
[11:58] <loomsen1> minimec: thx
[11:58] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1;  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[11:58] <PerryArmstrong> minimec; thanks
[11:59] <minimec> np
[11:59] <sandralade> whats the indicator applet used for on rc?
[12:00] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: answered to your thread
[12:00] <bibstha> everyone is pming with their blog links
[12:00] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1;  i'll check it
[12:01] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: checked blacklists too and didnt find i915
[12:01] <loomsen1> so... should be fine
[12:01] <mib_y0kega> question for kubuntu users does KOPETE support webcam chat on msn and yahoo msgr ?
[12:02] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1;  so i should replace the code with this code and then restart
[12:02] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: and replace your current, if you want make a backup, but dont simply add this to the end
[12:02] <loomsen1> ^^
[12:02] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1;  sure
[12:03] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: my synaptic shows intel as the driver
[12:03] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; so what does that indicate??
[12:04] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: its either i810 or intel
[12:04] <td123> aww yeah, just got ubuntu i386 desktop cd :D
[12:04] <TychoQuad> My 3G modem is no longer identified by the network manager whenever I plug it in in Jaunty. it sees it if it's plugged in when I boot the computer, but if i disconnect it, it's lost until next boot. anyone have any ideas?
[12:04] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: the driverline
[12:04] <td123> have there been any problems with 9.04 yet?
[12:04] <s_spiff> !upgrade
[12:04] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; so i should try both options and see the result??
[12:05] <s_spiff> anyone upgrading?
[12:05] <loomsen1> yes, in the one i posted i issued i915
[12:05] <loomsen1> as you said
[12:05] <s_spiff> or recently upgraded?
[12:05] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: but there is no such driver installed
[12:05] <mib_y0kega> question for kubuntu users does KOPETE support webcam chat on msn and yahoo msgr ?
[12:05] <sandralade> release candidate here
[12:05] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: try with intel as the driver first
[12:05] <sponzor> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/9.04/ <--- this is still beta?
[12:05] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: if it fails, take i 810
[12:06] <s_spiff> sponzor: i think everything 9.04 is now in RC stage
[12:06] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; okk then
[12:06] <s_spiff> sandralade: no breakage issues right?
[12:06] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; i am restarting
[12:06] <loomsen1> gl
[12:08] <td123> no, everything is out
[12:09] <td123> it doesn't say anything like alpha beta rc in the name for a reason
[12:09] <incorrect> i see the .iso out!
[12:09] <the_eraser> hey is jabber.org down i cant connect.
[12:09] <incorrect> the download page has changed
[12:09] <sandralade> wheres the iso to find?
[12:10] <BUGabundo> sandralade: releases.u.c
[12:10] <incorrect> http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/ubuntu-releases/9.04/
[12:11] <thewrath> is jaunty out?
[12:11] <incorrect> looks like its out
[12:12] <incorrect> check that mirror
[12:12] <incorrect> party!
[12:12] <loomsen1> the_eraser: i can acess jabber
[12:12] <BUGabundo> thewrath: officially NO
[12:12] <the_eraser> 2:(
[12:12] <thewrath> BUGabundo:  okay bc it does not say release canaddate anymore
[12:13] <thewrath> BUGabundo: how can the iso for intel x86 be between 600 & 700 mb
[12:13] <mib_y0kega> this means it will be updating main page any min now
[12:13] <thewrath> http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ does not say RC
[12:13] <loomsen1> thewrath: common size for a desktop install cd
[12:13] <thewrath> BUGabundo:  how big is the ISO
[12:13] <thewrath> loomsen1: when i got the RC it was like 4gb
[12:13] <gardrell> out?
[12:13] <whattey> ye it is
[12:14] <the_eraser> loomsen1:
[12:14] <the_eraser> loomsen1: Error resolving jabber.org:
[12:14] <the_eraser> Temporary failure in name resolution
[12:14] <loomsen1> thewrath: maybe you chose the dvd instead of the cd version
[12:14] <loomsen1> o.O
[12:14] <cavaradossi> i have the beta 9.04 with all updates
[12:14] <cavaradossi> do i have to download the iso?
[12:14] <thewrath> loomsen1: i downloaded it from this : http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[12:15] <loomsen1> the_eraser: http://pastebin.com/m8e2dbb2
[12:15] <thewrath> loomsen1: i should be able to install it as a inwodws app right
[12:15] <the_eraser> hmm
[12:16] <joaopinto> !beta | cavaradossi
[12:16] <loomsen1> thewrath: i dont know buddy, dont have any clue bout windows installs
[12:16] <thewrath> loomsen1: okay
[12:16] <BUGabundo> QUESTION any one with fresh install can u please pastebin your sources.list ?
[12:16] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: wb
[12:16] <sandralade> ok ill do that
[12:17] <holdenss> http://releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/   no RC there anymore
[12:17] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; when i tried intel it got my screen smaller...nearly half the size of monitor
[12:17] <Cugel> They'll wait till all mirrors are updated.
[12:17] <aguitel> dates of iso images are abril 20
[12:18] <thewrath> wait till all mirrors are updated for waht Cugel
[12:18] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: i810 didnt work neither?
[12:18] <td123> I already dled the final iso
[12:18] <td123> works great
[12:18] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; when i tried i810 it got it the same way as it was with when i tired with i915
[12:18] <loomsen1> :(
[12:18] <PerryArmstrong> now i get only 1 error before login screen
[12:18] <holdenss> thanks
[12:18] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: which is?
[12:18] <Cugel> They will wait with the announcement of 9.04.
[12:19] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, just got back again. There are 2 drivers for intel chipsets: i810 (old) and intel (new)
[12:19]  * incorrect wonders when 9.10 will be out
[12:19] <ikonia> incorrect: don't be silly please
[12:19] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; The following error was encountered: you need to update your configuration to sole this   (EE) No devices detected
[12:19] <incorrect> sorry i couldn' help it ikonia
[12:19] <frk2> incorrect on 9/10 ?
[12:19] <frk2> haha
[12:19] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; and i am running Ubuntu in low graphics mode
[12:19] <BUGabundo> QUESTION any one with fresh install can u please pastebin your sources.list ?
[12:20] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; got back in the sense??
[12:20] <freakabcd> the new intel driver in its current release and form *might* not be suitable for older chipsets (like mine, 855GM and maybe even yours!). In this case the Xorg people recommend you use i810
[12:20] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; and whats the new one??
[12:20] <loomsen1> freakabcd: passing this one to u ^^
[12:20] <minimec> PerryArmstrong: Again... what if you just did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ...
[12:20] <loomsen1> minimec: STOP IT!
[12:20] <ulng> please can someone tell me where the correct forum/chan is to ask the question "What time will Ubuntu 9.04 be released officially?"
[12:21] <PerryArmstrong> minimec; it shrinks my screen to half my monitor size
[12:21] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, What exactly is the problem? The display resolution on your laptop not the right one? I assume you have posted your xorg.conf file somewhere on pastebin?
[12:21] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: minimec: it just drops you back to default
[12:21] <Cugel> ulng: here, of course.
[12:21] <ulng> :) Cugel
[12:21] <loomsen1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7125153#post7125153
[12:21] <loomsen1> @ freakabcd
[12:22] <the_eraser> the torrents are 23 april means its realesed?
[12:22] <freakabcd> thanks loomsen1. I will take a look now
[12:22] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; its pc not lappy
[12:22] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; i posted it here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7125052#post7125052
[12:22] <ulng> so does anyone know when it's going to be released officially?
[12:22] <sponzor> in 3 ours
[12:22] <ulng> thanks sponzor
[12:23] <sponzor> i m joking i dont know :P
[12:23] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, does not matter. i remember you mentioned 945G/GZ as your chipset. Xorg driver i810 supports this chipset. And so does the updated and 'newer' intel driver
[12:23] <sponzor> it should be soon becose the mirrors dont show rc anymore
[12:23] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; but then i still get that message
[12:24] <PerryArmstrong>  The following error was encountered: you need to update your configuration to sole this   (EE) No devices detected
[12:25] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd, loomsen1, minimec; just something that i noticed.... i have a shotcut to screen resolution on my panel and i see the message "Unknown" and "Rotation not supported
[12:25] <vistakiller> ZzzzZZzzZZzZZzzZZ
[12:26] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: what if you simply comment out the BusID line and try again?
[12:26] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; hey where can i post my screenshot??
[12:26] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, that is very suspect. Intel chips (rather the intel) drivers are the first ones to add support (and really good one at that) for rotation. Infact XrandR from keithp was built up from the intel driver he was working on
[12:26] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: i like shutter
[12:26] <wlodi> http://www.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[12:27] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; whats the link
[12:27] <TychoQuad> My 3G modem is no longer identified by the network manager whenever I plug it in in Jaunty. it sees it if it's plugged in when I boot the computer, but if i disconnect it, it's lost until next boot. anyone have any ideas?
[12:27] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: heres the sources.list entry:
[12:28] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, ls -l /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/i*
[12:28] <AlleyKat> is it out in the update channel?
[12:28] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1:???
[12:28] <AlleyKat> 'it' being 9.04 :)
[12:28] <freakabcd> Does that ^^^^ show intel_drv.so and i915_drv.so ?
[12:28] <slayton> AlleyKat, do you like de-horning Unicorns?
[12:28] <loomsen1> http://pastebin.com/m43fb3e20
[12:28] <AlleyKat> uh
[12:29] <AlleyKat> not being a virgin I doubt I could catch one :P
[12:29] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; http://paste.ubuntu.com/156465/
[12:29] <slayton> AlleyKat, read the channel topic
[12:29] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1:i didnt follow what you said
[12:29] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: http://pastebin.com/m43fb3e20
[12:30] <BonezAU> any update on when the release will come out?
[12:30] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, i don;t see i915_drv.so in there so you cannot have Driver "i915" in your xorg.conf
[12:30] <freakabcd> edit it and make it i180
[12:30] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: thats the sources.list for shutter
[12:30] <AlleyKat> and no doubt that Q is asked a million times a day :) its just that the day of the RC I updated, and hmm I guess I was a few hours early... tok an hour...
[12:30] <AlleyKat> need better line I know
[12:30] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1:i forgot to say that i changed it just now to i810 and its the same
[12:31] <AlleyKat> mebbe I'll just wait and try tomorrow
[12:31] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: yes, you mentioned
[12:31] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd:i forgot to say that i changed it just now to i810 and its the same
[12:31] <freakabcd> can you post the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file?
[12:31] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1:sorry i mistyped the message to you.. it was for freakabcd
[12:31] <AlleyKat> I just hope for something fixing my dual screen problem
[12:31] <incorrect> while installing 9.04 i was dismayed to see that the installed took over 5 minutes, can we should aim in future to have the installed done in around 30 seconds
[12:31] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, it is ok. I am paying attention :)
[12:31] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: ^^ thought so
[12:31] <PerryArmstrong> incorrect; i took me 2 days
[12:32] <incorrect> d'oh
[12:32] <freakabcd> AlleyKat, what graphics card?
[12:32] <PerryArmstrong> incorrect; my download speed is 12kbps....so took 2 days
[12:32] <AlleyKat> radeon HD 3600
[12:32] <incorrect> PerryArmstrong, my pxe boot takes around 7 mins to build me a fully working system dropping on my custom config
[12:32] <loomsen1> freakabcd: PerryArmstrong basically you're doing the same we already did , and this is really strange
[12:33] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1: ya... and i already did this 5 times before
[12:33] <incorrect> PerryArmstrong, i would install faster if you weren't hanging around on irc using up your bandwidth
[12:33] <perlsyntax> when is ubuntu 9.04 is going to  be for download?
[12:33] <freakabcd> AlleyKat, last I heard, the ATI folk got their act together. I must have misheard if you've been having problems with just dual screen setups
[12:33] <incorrect> perlsyntax, it already is
[12:33] <incorrect> just not offically
[12:33] <perlsyntax> what the link?
[12:33] <AlleyKat> runs fine on screen 1, but lists too low hz speeds for screen 2... the 2 screens are exactly same type
[12:34] <PerryArmstrong> incorrect; while the upgrade took place i didnt take up any bandwith for other purposes
[12:34] <perlsyntax> incorrect do you know the link?
[12:34] <BonezAU> looks like the final release is out?
[12:34] <perlsyntax> but where
[12:34] <incorrect> perlsyntax, try looking at the dir structure of the mirrors
[12:34] <AlleyKat> it ran fine on b2, but after updating to b4, screen 2 began flickering
[12:34] <BonezAU> torrents
[12:34] <xukun> perlsyntax, http://www.releases.ubuntu.com/
[12:34] <AlleyKat> and the system became choppy
[12:34] <incorrect> BonezAU, it has been for ages
[12:35] <perlsyntax> thanks
[12:35] <freakabcd> AlleyKat, b2..b4.. I don;t comprehend that unfortunately. Are these betas?
[12:35] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; where can i post my screenshot
[12:35] <perlsyntax> i was looking on the main site
[12:35] <AlleyKat> yep
[12:35] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, imageshack.us
[12:35] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[12:35] <perlsyntax> but didn't see it
[12:35] <BonezAU> incorrect: so the final release is available via torrent only at this point in time?
[12:36] <freakabcd> perlsyntax, huh? click on the releases folder and there you have it
[12:36] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: did u install shutter? after you took the shot click screenshot-->upload
[12:36] <loomsen1> and chose one
[12:36] <perlsyntax> ok
[12:36] <incorrect> BonezAU, http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/ubuntu-releases/9.04/
[12:36] <joaopinto> BonezAU, officially the final releas is not available in anywhere
[12:36] <perlsyntax> thanks
[12:36] <incorrect> apart from on that mirror
[12:36] <AlleyKat> I'll just wait a few days, then update and get back here for help resetting screen settings :) thx freakabcd
[12:36] <darthanubis> There has only been one update since release candidate. Why every six months do ppl have a fetish with downloading, and jamming up the servers, to get the disc label "final". An apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade will suffice.
[12:37] <perlsyntax> so that the stable one then
[12:37] <freakabcd> AlleyKat, perhaps best to ask for help also (simultaneously?) in #xorg
[12:37] <perlsyntax> :)
[12:37] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1, freakabcd; http://img5.imageshack.us/content.php?page=done&l=img5/513/screenshotmfl.png
[12:37] <BonezAU> incorrect: thanks... but any idea why that mirror only?
[12:38] <incorrect> BonezAU, there are other mirrors
[12:38] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; i didnt find shutter in my repos
[12:38] <AlleyKat> afterall my win setup runs perfectly, its just that I'm a bit anxious to get a just as perfect setup in ubuntu and begin using that more permanently.. ok thx, good advice
[12:39] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, Thsi is after you changed the xorg.conf file and put i180 in the Driver line?
[12:39] <loomsen1> i posted the link to the sources twice...
[12:39] <loomsen1> http://pastebin.com/m43fb3e20
[12:39] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, not to be pedantic, but you did restart X right?
[12:39] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1,freakabcd; it was before and after
[12:40] <JPSman> HA, so since all the servers are getting dos, where can I find a reliable torrent of the RC?
[12:40] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; actually i dont know whats X though i heard i many times and i dont know how to restart it... anyways i logged out for doing this
[12:41] <BluesKaj> darthanubis, the servers aren't allowing network upgrades yet , altho one can DL torrent, ftp etc images
[12:41] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. make sure you save any docos or other work you were doing and close applications also before doing that key combo
[12:41] <loomsen1> freakabcd: wont work
[12:41] <freakabcd> loomsen1, huh?
[12:41] <ienorand> freakabcd: dontzap...
[12:42] <freakabcd> loomsen1, did canonical remove that from Xorg code?
[12:42] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: X is what differences the ttys from your desktop environment, X binds input and output devices together
[12:42] <ienorand> Possibly alt+sysreq+K will work
[12:42] <loomsen1> and creates a more than BIOS
[12:42] <darthanubis> BluesKaj, I just updated and got the newer firefox. I was not talking about 8.10-9.04 but an update from a pre-release 9.04
[12:42] <loomsen1> BIOS= basic input output system
[12:42] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; freakabcd; ya it sisnt work when i pressed the keys
[12:42] <frybye> Hi - I have a fully- updated 9.04 that was a beta a bit back - and the brasero seems to be still held back?
[12:43] <ienorand> frybye: install via synaptic?
[12:43] <frybye> ok...
[12:44] <Cougarten> hi, this seems o be a bug: I can check "import profiles" on install even if those are an the partition I will format. The profiles where not imoprted and are lost now. (I had a backup of home, others may have none)
[12:44] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; freakabcd; this problem existed more than 4 months
[12:44] <loomsen1> erm, PerryArmstrong
[12:44] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; freakabcd; i tried many ways...didnt work out
[12:44] <frybye> ienorand: synaptic says it is installed.. but I find it nowhere in the gui??
[12:44] <loomsen1> do u use a netbook?
[12:45] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; whats a netbook
[12:45] <frybye> and the update manager gui shows it as held back...?
[12:45] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: a subnotebook
[12:45] <mvo> frybye: its a known bug, will get fixed via a update right after release. its still haveing the old brasero
[12:45] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1;never heard of
[12:45] <mvo> frybye: just start update-manager and it should offer you the latest brasero
[12:46] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: nevermind, u said u have a desktop pc right
[12:46] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, out of curiosity; what are those CG video tutorials you have there on your desktop?
[12:47] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; ya
[12:47] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; i have Computer Graphics subject in my semester. I am a CS student...
[12:47] <x3cion> Why does my kde update notifier show "5 software updates are available" even if there's none?
[12:47] <frybye> I marked brasero for an update in synaptic and it seems to hvae worked...
[12:47] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; CG is computer graphics...
[12:48] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; i made lots of downloads this week and i have my sem exams...so i didnt find time to rearrange and clean my desktop
[12:49] <_kal_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:49] <_kal_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:49] <_kal_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:49] <_kal_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:49] <_kal_> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/.pool/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso
[12:49] <mvo> frybye: yeah, its just a transient issue, everyone will get it with the next update-manager run, its just a bit of a glitch not a real bug
[12:49] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, yes I knwo what CG is. I meant what tutorials are they? they are of lectures of the concepts/programming of CG (or) tutorials utilising certain programs (such as maya, 3dsmax,blender,etc.) ?
[12:49] <mvo> (well, its a real bug, but not a serious one)
[12:49] <Nikola94> I would rather wait for it to OFFICIALLY come
[12:50] <Cougarten> I can check "import profiles" on install even if those are an the partition I will format. The profiles where not imoprted and are lost now.
[12:50] <JPSman> hahhahahaha awesome.  But i'll wait for the torrent.  Anyone have a link???
[12:50] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong:
[12:50] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; concepts.. you can get the video tutorials of many subjects at nptel.iitm.ac.in
[12:50] <Nikola94> it is NOT out YET!!!!!1
[12:50] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; yes
[12:50] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: just found this
[12:50] <|ns|nR8> how long till its official and all the repos go down
[12:50] <loomsen1> /usr/share/bug/xserver-xorg-video-intel/script
[12:50] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, ok. i just wanted to know what the videos were of. I've seen way too many of them
[12:50] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: try and run it maybe, can hardly get worse...
[12:50] <freakabcd> |ns|nR8, all the repos 'go down' ?
[12:51] <danbhfive> |ns|nR8: the servers are already starting to distribute partial images.
[12:51] <|ns|nR8> there cool
[12:51] <cousteau> jaunty has just freezed
[12:51] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; what do i do with that??
[12:51] <loomsen1> run it
[12:51] <loomsen1> if you have it
[12:51] <Nikola94> cousteau: ofcourse, since you use illegal download link
[12:51] <|ns|nR8> they usually get a good hammering freakabcd
[12:51] <freakabcd> |ns|nR8, they're in that process right now
[12:51] <|ns|nR8> lots go down..not all
[12:52] <cousteau> I mean, it's not responding
[12:52] <freakabcd> they don't go down. the link's become congested or the response is slow due to the load
[12:52] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; ??
[12:52] <Raylz> do we have any date for the release?
[12:52] <Nikola94> Ya
[12:52] <Nikola94> Today
[12:53] <Raylz> ye, when
[12:53] <cousteau> it doesn't respond to REISUB
[12:53] <X-TaZ> 8 minuts remaining .. :)
[12:53] <Nikola94> Let me tell you the rules
[12:53] <minimec> cousteau: I also have that problem with a ati9600 mobility + compiz + more than 4 WIndows open. Then I have a great risk for a complete system freeze.
[12:53] <|ns|nR8> hehe
[12:53] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: do you have such a file on your pc? cd /usr/share/bug/xserver-xorg-video-intel/
[12:53] <freakabcd> Raylz, if you want to know when the official announcement will arrive, then we have no clue. if you want the isos, you can grab them at the usual place(s)
[12:53] <Nikola94> 1. if it isn't released now, it will be released in 1 hour 2. look at rule number 1.
[12:53] <cousteau> in fact, this is a laptop so I'm not sure if the sysrq key works
[12:53] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: sudo chmod +x && ./script
[12:54] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; i have that directory
[12:54] <frybye> remind me of the #name for the releaseparty please?
[12:54] <Raylz> freakabcd: are they rc isos or finished images?
[12:54] <cousteau> neither Ctrl Alt F1 nor Ctrl Alt BkSp
[12:54] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: sudo chmod +x script && ./script
[12:54] <freakabcd> Raylz, final images. cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/releases <- check for yourself
[12:55] <Raylz> freakabcd: ty
[12:55] <freakabcd> ofcourse, use your closest/local mirror
[12:55] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; this is the output: ./script: 15: 3: Bad file descriptor
[12:55] <Nikola94> wait for the official announcment...
[12:55] <danbhfive> cousteau: how to you press the sysreq key?  C-PrintScreen?
[12:55] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: if you type pwd you get that directory? if so
[12:55] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; how do i run this??
[12:55] <PerryArmstrong> /usr/share/bug/xserver-xorg-video-intel/script
[12:56] <cousteau> danbhfive: Fn+del
[12:56] <Raylz> freakabcd: it was http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/release/ though :)
[12:56] <Raylz> ty
[12:56] <loomsen1> o.O
[12:56] <cousteau> the del key has a sysrq written on it
[12:56] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen; oshan@roshan:/usr/share/bug/xserver-xorg-video-intel$ pwd
[12:56] <PerryArmstrong> /usr/share/bug/xserver-xorg-video-intel
[12:56] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: is what pwd shows?
[12:56] <loomsen1> ok
[12:56] <freakabcd> cousteau, Fn+sysrq key
[12:56] <PerryArmstrong> yes
[12:56] <danbhfive> cousteau: hm, I guess its different for different keyboards
[12:56] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong:
[12:56] <freakabcd> that is sysrq. now press whatever else you need to along with that
[12:56] <loomsen1> ls -alh
[12:56] <cousteau> I have also tried Fn+prt scr, Fn+alt+prt scr...
[12:57] <freakabcd> cousteau, what do you want to press? i mean what combo? sysrq+... ?
[12:57] <underjjjjj> is it being released today or not?
[12:57] <loomsen1> no man
[12:57] <Nikola94> It will be
[12:57] <cousteau> freakabcd: reisub
[12:57] <Nikola94> !outyet
[12:57] <freakabcd> reisub ?
[12:57] <Nikola94> Guess not
[12:57] <loomsen1> just a late !st aprl joke
[12:57] <Cougarten> underjjjjj: just install it, it will update as soon at it is final
[12:57] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; http://paste.ubuntu.com/156479/
[12:57] <Nikola94> lol, maybe
[12:57] <underjjjjj> what you mean no predetermined time. the release date is 23rd april
[12:58] <loomsen1> last year maybe
[12:58] <loomsen1> nothin new today
[12:58] <dekkong> :P
[12:58] <minimec> freakabcd: raising elephants is so utterly boring reisub!
[12:58] <freakabcd> cousteau, if you mean you want to type out 'busier' holding the sysrq key, its not going to work on your laptop keyboard. cos 'i' and 'u' keys are numpad when Fn key is pressed.
[12:58] <freakabcd> is it reisub or busier?
[12:59] <loomsen1> kreisub
[12:59] <BluesKaj> underjjjjj, the image iso is already available http://rs.releases.ubuntu.com/jaunty/
[12:59] <cousteau> anyway, I've tried SysRq+B; that should reboot the PC
[12:59] <cousteau> and SysRq+RB
[13:00] <omer> yeah i see the release has been available http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[13:00] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: i'm sorry, i dont have any clue how i could help you there o.o
[13:00] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, mate. you're going to have better luck in #xorg with your issue. just hope that not all of them are sleeping at the same time :)
[13:00] <cousteau> I think it's a linux problem; I also had the same problem with a desktop pc
[13:01] <freakabcd> cousteau, what is a linux problem?
[13:01] <cousteau> or a similar one, can't remember
[13:01] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; already tried there with no success
[13:01] <AlexFera> If i have already ubuntu 9.04 RC, is there any need to reinstall ubuntu 9.04 final release?
[13:01] <cousteau> the not working SysR1q
[13:01] <ienorand> only sysrq+b is a bad idea, kinda like ripping power pug out of running computer...
[13:01] <freakabcd> i still don;t know what you want to do. i mean eventually; i.e. the reason for sysrq+...
[13:01] <cousteau> AlexFera: no, it will update automatically
[13:01] <AlexFera> ok
[13:02] <freakabcd> cousteau, you do realize you need to have Alt pressed as well, right
[13:02] <freakabcd> ?
[13:02] <joaopinto> !beta | AlexFera
[13:02] <freakabcd> cousteau, Alt+SysRq+b and say bye bye before.
[13:02] <cousteau> ienorand: it's a good idea for testing if SysRq works
[13:03] <cousteau> and it doesn't
[13:04] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1,freakabcd; i guess i'll leave
[13:04] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1,freakabcd; no positive outcomes as of now
[13:04] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: sorry buddy
[13:04] <cousteau> I'm gonna reboot using the button and check if REISUB works with an unfreezed system
[13:04] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: gl with that
[13:04] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; no probs
[13:04] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; ya thanks
[13:04] <PerryArmstrong> bye
[13:05] <cousteau> ok, the button did work
[13:05] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: yw, l8r
[13:05] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, i want to try out JJ on my laptop to see if I have any issues. and I am on the ancient 855GM chipset
[13:05] <cousteau> I didn't have to remove the charger and battery
[13:05] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; whats JJ
[13:05] <freakabcd> Jaunty Jackalope
[13:05] <freakabcd> Next one is ofcourse KK
[13:06] <BluesKaj> I guess we north american network upgraders have to wait for the sun to cross the international dateline before we get any service :)
[13:06]  * BluesKaj goes back to bed
[13:06] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1,freakabcd; and i suppose its better i buy a new monitor...this is an old one which i have...and i am getting a graphic card too.. which one is best for both Ubuntu and windows
[13:06] <freakabcd> Sun don;t cross international dateline. Oracle already did: select * from Sun
[13:06] <freakabcd> :)
[13:06] <ulng> first alpha release of 9.10 (Karmic Koala) is supposed to be May 14th
[13:06] <loomsen1> lol freak
[13:06] <loomsen1> ^
[13:06] <W8TAH> BluesKaj: i dont know - im in north america and ive gotten all my updates -- im fully running 9.04 -- works sweet
[13:07] <SwedeMike> plenty of people downloading via bittorrent already, anyway
[13:07] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: i like my nvidia in the meanwhile
[13:07] <cousteau> aargh!! I accidentally pressed and holded the Print Screen key
[13:07] <SwedeMike> I'm seeding 50 megabit/s
[13:07] <ienorand> cousteau: ^^
[13:07] <BluesKaj> W8TAH, did you get an update this morning ?
[13:07] <cousteau> and hundreds of screenshot windows have appeared
[13:07] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: and actually i'm at least not upset with their releases, so...
[13:08] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; is there any configuration no's to it like your monitor or motherboard
[13:08] <W8TAH> BluesKaj: ya
[13:08] <BluesKaj> main server?
[13:08] <W8TAH> BluesKaj: dunno - which ever is the default
[13:08] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: pardon? you mean if i lack support for sth? no actually not
[13:08] <W8TAH> BluesKaj: had 4 security updates waiting when i got here this morning
[13:08] <BluesKaj> the server depends on your area/location
[13:08] <freakabcd> W8TAH, default would be your local mirror
[13:09] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: i dont have a hdmi out so i cant check that
[13:09] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; sth??
[13:09] <W8TAH> oh - -ok - then i guess its the cleveland ohio area
[13:09] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: something
[13:09] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; hdmi??
[13:09] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: if you dont know what it is you prlly wont miss it
[13:09] <ienorand> cousteau: turn on group windows in panel and close group...
[13:09] <cousteau> hmm... Fn+prtscr == Fn+sysrq... weird
[13:09] <freakabcd> loomsen1, yo man. why you talking about hdmi to us lowly intel folk?
[13:09] <freakabcd> hehe
[13:09] <loomsen1> lol
[13:09] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; i didnt get you
[13:10] <cousteau> ienorand: never mind, I clicked several times on the Cancel button until it stopped
[13:10] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: did u ask if theres anything i'd like to run but am not able? then no
[13:10] <ienorand> cousteau: Yea, I have that as well, seems kernel ignores fn-keys or something
[13:11] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: but i have a notebook
[13:11] <cousteau> I hate laptops
[13:11] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: so, maybe i'm not the proper one to ask ^^
[13:11] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; okk
[13:11] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; i have been working on ubuntu since a year...and i reported maybe 3 bugs...
[13:12] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; and i wish to be a core devloper...though i dont know any coding for ubuntu..
[13:12] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; any idea
[13:12] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; i checked the wiki...its a bit crap
[13:12] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, don;t fret right away. It will take a long time.
[13:12] <matisse> hi
[13:13] <nandemonai> Hi guys.
[13:13] <freakabcd> and everyone was a noob when they started. so no need to feel bad
[13:13] <matisse> how do I upgrade from 8.10 to 9.x ?
[13:13] <loomsen1> http://linux.die.net/abs-guide/
[13:13] <nandemonai> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ <- Are the torrents here for the final?
[13:13] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; not anymore since i wanted to get badly into developing..
[13:13] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: maybe a nice start
[13:13] <freakabcd> there are lots of meanings for 'developing' though
[13:13] <nandemonai> I wanna help out by seeding :D
[13:13] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; not exactly...but then what i meant is...how should i go about
[13:14] <nandemonai> (Been on Jaunty since beta).
[13:14] <joaopinto> nandemonai, there is no final version until there is an announcement
[13:14] <drone1> seed it
[13:14] <freakabcd> nandemonai, grab the torrent and get the iso and then seed
[13:14] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: http://linux.die.net/abs-guide/
[13:14] <nandemonai> Ah ok so the torrents there are for the RC?
[13:14] <freakabcd> nandemonai, torrents are there for the final release
[13:14] <nandemonai> I'm a lil confused because it doesn't say rc.
[13:14] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; i meant it as be one of the persons responsible for coding in ubuntu. ;loomsen1
[13:15] <victim> I recently updated to a Jaunty RC will I have to do something special whenever 9.10 is released?
[13:15] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: then try and contact the guys over at debian maybe
[13:15] <nandemonai> victim: Just keep updating ;)
[13:15] <victim> thanks :)
[13:15] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, then you have a lot to learn. Sure there is coding going on for the linux distribution called 'ubuntu', but the amount of coding that goes into this, compared witht he coding that goes on for the applications is (frankly) almost nothing
[13:15] <alex2> jaunty is not rlsed ? :-O
[13:16] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; how frequent does the kernel et updated...is it as crazy as people like me waiting for an ubuntu release
[13:16] <SwedeMike> there are plenty of mirrors that are still fast anyway, I had no problem getting 10 megabytes/s from my not so local mirror (10ms away)
[13:16] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: well, no ^^
[13:16] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; ohhh yes...i am aware of that
[13:17] <victim> will Jaunty ever be released? Isn't Jaunty the pre release code name for 9.10 or am I being pedantic?
[13:17] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; okk but then i suppose its the kernel which plays more important role than a release
[13:17] <Light-> no thats Karmic Koala
[13:17] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; okk but then i suppose its the kernel which plays more important role than a distro release
[13:17] <SwedeMike> victim: you're confusing it with "sid" in debian.
[13:17]  * victim lols at himself
[13:17] <victim> 9.04*
[13:18] <alex2> 23.4 is now where it will be officialy ? :P
[13:18] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; i have unix in this sem...so i do know some commands....i just checked that link
[13:18] <victim> SwedeMike: I probably am, I've tried many distro and they all have excellent naming conventions
[13:19] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: http://git.kernel.org/
[13:19] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, if you want to get into kernel devel, then I strongly recommend reading LDD and hanging around #kernelnewbies(on oftc, not here)
[13:20] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; whats LDD
[13:20] <loomsen1> #2
[13:20] <freakabcd> many of the prominent kernel devs hang out in that channel
[13:20] <ernstp> can anyone start eclipse 3.4 on jaunty?
[13:20] <ernstp> or eclipse at all?
[13:20] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, Linux Driver Development. Its a book. freely available!
[13:20] <ernstp> thinking that todays security update of firefox broke it
[13:20] <joaopinto> ernstp, are you using sun's java ? the last time I have checked eclipse was only running fine with sun's jre
[13:21] <PerryArmstrong> freeakabcd; or is it Linux Device Drivers
[13:21] <freakabcd> joaopinto, eclipse seems to work fine with openjdk
[13:21] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, didn;t I say that? oh wait what did I say?
[13:21] <joaopinto> ah ok
[13:22] <freakabcd> lol, i made a mistake with ldd, first time its happened! must be getting sleepy
[13:22] <PerryArmstrong> freeakabcd,loomsen1; is the kernel same for both rpm and debian
[13:22] <PerryArmstrong> freeakabcd,loomsen1; is the kernel same for both rpm based and debian based
[13:22] <PerryArmstrong> lol
[13:23] <ernstp> joaopinto: yes. it's been running fine for a week but today it stopped working
[13:23] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, yes. it is the same kernel. maybe a different release and maybe with different patches, but essentilly the same kernel
[13:23] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; whats a patch
[13:23] <joaopinto> ernstp, that's odd, firefox should not touch the jre package
[13:24] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: a file which specifies which lines of another file shall be replaced
[13:24] <ernstp> joaopinto: eclipse uses swt which uses xulrunner
[13:24] <loomsen1> and against what
[13:24] <nandemonai> Alrighty guys, it's been fun. Seeya when the beta for 9.10 comes out ;)
[13:24] <loomsen1> lol
[13:24] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, a patch is a 'fix' essentially some code that fixes a bug or makes some new functionality in existing code
[13:24] <loomsen1> l8r
[13:24] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; ohkk....
[13:25] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; i always wonder where does free software and open source developers get their income....i was really baffled when one of my juniors asked this when he asked me this when i took a seminar on FSF and OSS
[13:26] <J-_> "USB Startup Disk Creator" Will that let me install Ubuntu from USB once I get an image on the usb drive?
[13:26] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: well, there are different ways to gain money even with free software
[13:26] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; how???
[13:26] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, developing software is like any other job. companies pay for development.
[13:27] <PerryArmstrong> take example of ubuntu...who pays them
[13:27] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: like some might be paid hardware developer, and just code OSapps for fun
[13:27] <td123> PerryArmstrong: shuttleworth
[13:27] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: or maybe ur box asks u for alittle script to do whatever
[13:27] <freakabcd> for example many of the people working with Xorg (the display system you use) are paid by the graphics card manufacturers (such as intel, nvidia, ati) or other companies that have a vested interest in the technology
[13:27] <PerryArmstrong> td123; whats that
[13:28] <rski> PerryArmstrong: a debian developer and millionare
[13:28] <PerryArmstrong> loomsen1; so i pay for whoever writes that script
[13:28] <rski> who quit debian went to space and started ubuntu
[13:28] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: and you think that if you distribute your base source you might profit l8r on from some source added by others
[13:28] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, td123 meant Mark Shuttleworth. look him up on wikipedia
[13:28] <rski> he puts money in ubuntu via cannonical
[13:28] <td123> PerryArmstrong: you don't know who shuttleworth is and you're in ubuntu? hah, that's funny, now cut the crap out :P
[13:29] <rski> PerryArmstrong: wikipedia is a good source of information about mark shuttleworth
[13:29] <loomsen1> td123: well, as long as steve wozniak is known.^^
[13:29] <freakabcd> td123, he is a new user. so maybe he doesn;t know!
[13:29] <PerryArmstrong> td123; founder of Ubuntu??
[13:29] <freakabcd> loomsen1, the other 'fake' steve eclipses the Real(tm) Steve (Wozniak) most of the time :(
[13:30] <loomsen1> freakabcd: sad and true, but maybe woz doesn't mind, or even enjoys?
[13:31] <RandumKiwi> Hey, is anyone else having trouble burning the Jaunty release to disc?
[13:31] <freakabcd> perhaps. I've always felt the Real Steve did Real work! while the fake steve did most of the 'faking' :)
[13:31] <PerryArmstrong> one thing...why do companies pay for a free software and OSS when its given free
[13:31] <loomsen1> freakabcd: at least he looks as if he was off his feed ^^
[13:32] <RandumKiwi> in particular, the 64bit desktop edition
[13:32] <RandumKiwi> tried from 2 different sources, neither worked.
[13:32] <_Fauchi95_> Hello! When I want install 9.04 the installer stands by loading the partitions manager. I have used the alternate cd too, but it is the same
[13:32] <drone1> software is free tech support is not
[13:32] <rski> RandumKiwi: sure because it's not out yet
[13:32] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: well, most commercial liinux distros don't sell the sofzware but the support & maintainance
[13:32] <Cougarten> whats best to run windows inside of linux?
[13:32] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, perhaps you want to read ESR's book
[13:32] <drone1> yep
[13:32] <RandumKiwi> rski: .. are you telling me the images are designed to fail?
[13:33] <drone1> lol
[13:33] <rski> gotunandan: try virtualbox if you have a windows license. else use wine
[13:33] <rski> RandumKiwi: im saying it's not out yet
[13:33] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; where do i et that book??
[13:33] <Cougarten> virtualbox thx
[13:33] <drone1> maybe they used proprietary software to make the images thats why theyre crappy
[13:33] <freakabcd> in your local library perhaps?
[13:33] <loomsen1> (whispers there are virtual box images for download available too out there )
[13:33] <RandumKiwi> rski: ok, well, I've used this link, plus the same package on another server: http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[13:34] <rski> so did the md5sum match?
[13:34] <RandumKiwi> yes
[13:34] <RandumKiwi> both failed at 82%
[13:34] <rski> how does it fail
[13:34] <RandumKiwi> http://rafb.net/p/SBZA7u85.html
[13:34] <drone1> that image is for amd64 architecture
[13:34] <loomsen1> http://helpdesklive.info/download/VirtualBox%20VDI%20free%20images.html
[13:34] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, if you don;t mind reading from screen: http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/cathedral-bazaar/
[13:34] <loomsen1> google will open even more doors, i'm sure
[13:34] <drone1> is there a pdf for cathedral bazaar?
[13:34] <RandumKiwi> rski: I've tried 4 discs, 2 downloads from different mirrors.
[13:34] <rski> RandumKiwi: looks like fault discs to me, could be a k3b bug also
[13:35] <freakabcd> I'm not sure. Maybe
[13:35] <rski> Errno: 5 (Input/output error), write_g1 scsi sendcmd: no error
[13:35] <RandumKiwi> rski: oh, also 2 different burners.
[13:35] <RandumKiwi> burner programs*
[13:35] <RandumKiwi> not burners themselves though :/
[13:35] <drone1> they used nero to burn make the image <.<
[13:35] <X-TaZ> Have you checked ou md5 ?..
[13:35] <RandumKiwi> yep
[13:35] <X-TaZ> burnt at low speed ?
[13:35] <drone1> remove the burn word
[13:35] <RandumKiwi> rski: yes
[13:36] <RandumKiwi> X-TaZ, i mean
[13:36] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; i'll check that out
[13:36] <freakabcd> drone1, http://webyes.com.br/wp-content/uploads/ebooks/book_cathedral_bazaar.pdf   (or)   http://www.si.umich.edu/~rfrost/courses/SI110/readings/IntellecProp/Cathedral-Bazaar.pdf
[13:36] <drone1> use the default cd/dvd creator
[13:36] <freakabcd> PerryArmstrong, ^^^ if you want the pdf
[13:36] <drone1> thanks freakabcd
[13:36] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; ya i want pdf...and whats the ESR you mentioned
[13:37] <freakabcd> Eric S. Raymond
[13:37] <drone1> ESR omg
[13:37] <PerryArmstrong> are you all users of ubuntuforums
[13:37] <freakabcd> thats the guy;s name :)
[13:37] <drone1> he said it
[13:37] <drone1> eric is great
[13:37] <freakabcd> nope. I have never registered there. but I occasionally look there for some info
[13:37] <drone1> open source advocate
[13:37] <rski> sure i visit the forums sometimes
[13:37] <freakabcd> hes the one without a beard. If you want beard, you want RMS -> Richard M. Stallman
[13:37] <PerryArmstrong> here's another thread of mine read it and answer in the forum itself as i am leaving now
[13:37] <ernstp> yeah, the xulrunner update breaks eclipse 3.4
[13:37] <freakabcd> mwahahaha
[13:37] <PerryArmstrong> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132791
[13:38] <drone1> lol
[13:38] <PerryArmstrong> here's another thread of mine read it and answer in the forum itself as i am leaving now http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132791
[13:38] <loomsen1> PerryArmstrong: lately i havent been active 2 much
[13:38] <PerryArmstrong> you guys just add me as friend in the forums;;will keep in touch...
[13:38] <RandumKiwi> rski: I'm trying another cd burner npw
[13:38] <RandumKiwi> now*
[13:38] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; whats ESR
[13:38] <rski> ok
[13:39] <freakabcd> Eric S. Raymond. I just told you!
[13:39] <PerryArmstrong> freakabcd; and the pdf you mentioned
[13:39] <PerryArmstrong> okk
[13:39] <Tecna> !party
[13:39] <freakabcd> thats the book he wrote. explaining the concept(s) of opensource, etc.
[13:39] <drone1> freakabcd: thanks for the pdf's
[13:39] <drone1> brb
[13:39] <freakabcd> no worries dROg
[13:39] <freakabcd> drone1,
[13:39] <freakabcd> heh
[13:39] <drone1> i will be Salajadin later
[13:39] <Tecna> #ubuntu-release-party
[13:39] <drone1> i am drone1 when im at office
[13:39] <drone1> and am Salajadin at home
[13:39] <freakabcd> lol, ok.
[13:40] <freakabcd> i'm always freakabcd
[13:40] <XulOrezBus> i am shocked and saddened there are no Release Parties in NC :/
[13:40] <drone1> lol thanks again
[13:40] <drone1> brb
[13:40] <freakabcd> ok guys/gals. I've gotta go to sleep now. Goodnight all
[13:41] <PerryArmstrong> good bye everyone
[13:41] <XulOrezBus> oh
[13:41] <XulOrezBus> wait
[13:41] <loomsen1> l8rz
[13:41] <XulOrezBus> there is
[13:41] <XulOrezBus> +D
[13:41] <loomsen1> ← out as well
[13:41] <loomsen1> cyaz
[13:41] <dansmith91> so why isn't it out yet?
[13:41] <Halow> !outyet
[13:42] <rski> dansmith91: just like duke nukem forever, it will be released when it's done.
[13:42] <RandumKiwi> duke nukem forever will never be released.
[13:42] <RandumKiwi> there's a big difference
[13:43] <rski> dnf just have a longer release cycle...
[13:43] <rski> bit like debian
[13:43] <PerryArmstrong> somebody also asked me whether OSS and FSF developers get well paid when compared to closed source as Microsoft and i had to tell that guy who asked me in the seminar that i really didnt have any idea about that
[13:44] <PerryArmstrong> some baffling questions that i got pissed and felt dumb when i conducted a FSF session...
[13:44] <rski> PerryArmstrong: kernel developers usually get paied pretty good, but closed source developers surely get more.
[13:44] <RandumKiwi> I thought we just let OSS dev's starve? :)
[13:44] <PerryArmstrong> rski; okk
[13:46] <PerryArmstrong> if you have any idea about this thread do post it there as i am leaving now http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1132791
[13:46] <ugliefrog> is today the day that 9.04 is released
[13:46] <PerryArmstrong> rski; what about distro devlopers for example ubuntu or Fedora or Red Hat
[13:46] <JerkyBoys> ugliefrog: yes
[13:47] <ugliefrog> Is it best to upgrade through internet or download iso
[13:48] <RandumKiwi> rski: It worked... the computer I burnt it on is a 64bit with 32bit OS, yet the first one that kept failing at 82% was a 32/32bit... do you have to burn 64bit CD images on 64bit computers?
[13:48] <PerryArmstrong> ugliefrog; depends upon your download speed
[13:49] <PerryArmstrong> RandumKiwi; writing images doesn't depend upon the architecture
[13:49] <RandumKiwi> that's what I thought.
[13:50] <RandumKiwi> .. is it possible that there is something in the image that just won'
[13:50] <RandumKiwi> .. is it possible that there is something in the image that just won't work with 32bit though?
[13:51] <RandumKiwi> (i.e. corrupted, etc?)
[13:51] <thordom> sorry for annoying question, but will ask O:-), Ubuntu 9.0.4 is there a time (inc. timezone, as I am in UK) when it will be released?, as I would like to download whilst in the office with fatter pipe to internet :)
[13:51] <TylerSzabo> lol
[13:51] <TylerSzabo> I dare you to ask that in #ubuntu-release-party
[13:51] <PerryArmstrong> do you mean writing ISO to cd or installation
[13:51] <TylerSzabo> I believe the answer is no
[13:52] <thordom> couldn't find that room on this server
[13:52] <TylerSzabo> and the rumour is that they're confirming the mirrors sync'ed
[13:52] <thordom> ok, thx Tyler :)
[13:52] <TylerSzabo> however it appears that the isos for the release are up on some mirrors
[13:52] <Cougarten> thordom: just download it now. If anything changes to the final release you can get it through small updates
[13:53] <thordom> Courgarten: another idea, thx
[13:54] <TylerSzabo> how reliable is 8.10 -> 9.04RC ?
[13:54] <TylerSzabo> smoke?
[13:56] <derspankster> I did a fresh install to a new hard drive - only issue I had was that I had to reinstall swfdec for some reason.
[13:57] <PerryArmstrong> rski; there??
[13:57] <rski> sure
[13:58] <rski> playing some quake
[13:58] <PerryArmstrong> rski; what about distro devlopers for example ubuntu or Fedora or Red Hat
[13:58] <PerryArmstrong> compared with kernel developers
[14:00] <PerryArmstrong> rski; any idea
[14:02] <JerkyBoys> looks like 9.04 is out
[14:02] <XulOrezBus> yep
[14:02] <usergr> How can I update my ubuntu to final version?
[14:02] <okanasik> Yea but why the date shows 20th of april on mirrors and all ?
[14:03] <PerryArmstrong> JerkyBoyz; where i dont see it
[14:03] <zoggy> does anyone else have problems with many jaunty apps not saving settings, for example kate, plasma etc
[14:03] <zoggy> i have to reconfigure kate each time i open a file
[14:03] <Asad-away> upgrade instructions from 8.10, anyhwere ?
[14:03] <Asad-away> anywhere*
[14:03] <Asad-away> since it's officially out now
[14:04] <Cougarten> its not
[14:04] <SandGorgon> bye bye jaunty... i'll see you guys at karmic
[14:04] <LurkersA> ...
[14:04] <Asad-away> the ubuntu site is saying it's out ... ?
[14:04] <bazhang> yep it is
[14:04] <Cougarten> yes?
[14:04] <Cougarten> oh
[14:04] <usergr> Yes its out!!
[14:04] <bazhang> Y!
[14:04] <Cougarten> LETZ PARTY HARD!
[14:04] <Insti> http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[14:04] <usergr> How to upgrade from RC to final??
[14:04] <SandGorgon> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2009-April/000122.html
[14:04] <Cougarten> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (if you want to force it)
[14:04] <BluesKaj> the main network server is upgrading packages as we speak
[14:05] <mbeierl> I guess this channel is soon to be closed ;)
[14:05] <X3> no
[14:05] <Cougarten> usergr: just take the new updates
[14:05] <mbeierl> time to change the topic !
[14:05] <usergr> thanks
[14:05] <X3> ubuntu+1 is always open for the next release
[14:05] <bazhang> err no
[14:06] <hifi> topic is oldish ;)
[14:06] <X3> errr yes
[14:06] <mbeierl> I heard they close it until the next release is far enough along to warrant a channel
[14:06] <bazhang> the channel will close for a bit X3
[14:06] <Asad-away> Should I update using "Update Manager" .. it has the 9.04 update option ?
[14:06] <eagles0513875> hey bazhang grats on jaunty
[14:06] <eagles0513875> Pici: grats on jaunty
[14:06] <X3> well I never known it to close
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Asad-away , yes
[14:07] <X3> but then again im not sad enough to be here every day
[14:07] <Asad-away> the cd / iso has the upgrade option too?
[14:07] <Asad-away> I don't want to download so many packages just to re-download them in .iso
[14:07] <x3cion> X3, not yet
[14:07] <x3cion> o.o
[14:07] <tuxFan> dvd problems in jaunty , cant play dvds
[14:07] <Cougarten> Asad-away: just install and update
[14:08] <X3> dvd of kubuntu wot install in VM
[14:08] <Asad-away> using the cd/iso Cougarten ?
[14:08] <X3> anyways been emotional not
[14:08] <usergr> I run the update manager and reloaded but no new updates
[14:08] <Cougarten> Asad-away: : why not? not all packages of the world will change. just a few small updates will come
[14:09] <Asad-away> ohh ok Cougarten
[14:09] <Cougarten> bye folks
[14:09] <mishu> someone should probably change the topic..
[14:09] <usergr> so i have the final ubuntu 9.04?
[14:09] <BluesKaj> Asad-away , in the terminal , sudo update-manager -d
[14:09] <zoggy> will jaunty be a long term support edition?
[14:10] <usergr> did it
[14:10] <PerryArmstrong> i have RC and i checked updates but i didnt get any for the final release
[14:10] <mvo> usergr: are you behind a proxy maybe? try moving away the file ~/.update-manager-core/meta-release
[14:10] <BluesKaj> zoggy, not until 10.04
[14:10] <usergr> no proxy!
[14:10] <mvo> usergr: or are you on jaunty already :) ?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> 1 yr from now , the 10.04 edition will be LTS
[14:11] <SandGorgon> yayyy
[14:11] <mvo> PerryArmstrong: thats ok, its now jaunty-final :)
[14:11] <zoggy> BluesKaj: thanks
[14:11] <usergr> I am on Jaunty but its (it was) RC
[14:11] <BluesKaj> zoggy , np
[14:11] <Pici> !final
[14:11] <PerryArmstrong> mvo; are you sure...because i didnt get any updates
[14:11] <usergr> Thanks guys
[14:12] <mvo> PerryArmstrong: oh, not any since RC - does update-manager show nothing if you run it manually (via system/administration) ?
[14:13] <PerryArmstrong> mvo; ya
[14:13] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: u cant say that for sure! its not yet decided
[14:14] <BUGabundo> it can be 10.04 or 10.10
[14:14] <BUGabundo> read Mark's blog
[14:14] <x3cion> So, whats in the next release?
[14:14] <slytherin> x3cion: next as in which one?
[14:15] <x3cion> I personally prefer a coffee cooking... whatever
[14:15] <SandGorgon> x3cion: cloud computing in Karmic
[14:15] <x3cion> so my pc can make coffee
[14:15] <x3cion> oh
[14:15] <x3cion> I dig the tab-thing for dolphin in kde 4.3!
[14:15] <BUGabundo> x3cion: 9.10
[14:16] <x3cion> Yeah, guessed so
[14:16] <SandGorgon> x3cion: how did u install 4.3 ?
[14:16] <x3cion> i didnt, i just looked it up
[14:16] <x3cion> its already fixed in 4.3 in the kde bugtracker thingy stuff
[14:16] <x3cion> :]
[14:16] <dekkong> YO guys! is it possible to update from 9.04 Beta to 9.04? :
[14:16] <x3cion> I wanted to drag and drop tabs around
[14:17] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo , well that's what my sources , who are supposed to know these things , tell me
[14:17] <x3cion> dekkong,  "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[14:17] <dekkong> x3cion: yeah thx I know but someone told me yesterday that it aint gonna work :P
[14:17] <x3cion> oh... well i dont know really
[14:18] <x3cion> but its a long time till 9.10
[14:18] <x3cion> :P
[14:18] <rm```> !final
[14:18] <dekkong> my update manager has been downloading stuff now for more than 3 hours .. an still 4 to go .. what is going on :P
[14:19] <tuxFan> cant play dvds in jaunty , why?
[14:19] <gotunandan> tuxFan: use ogle
[14:19] <x3cion> But I also have a problem currently. I have a laptop and an external screen connected to it and use it in dualview. Now I wrote the config into my xorg.conf. Everything works fine now, it really puts them next to each other from start on. But my internal display (LVDS) starts with a resolution of 1280x854 instead of its default 1440x900
[14:20] <x3cion> I'm using the radeon driver and have a X600
[14:21] <LurkersA> tuxFan: Or go to medibuntu and install 'libdvdcss2'
[14:22] <x3cion> Look at that http://pastebin.com/dc9a6cc3 its detecting the vga, but not the lvds :\
[14:22] <minimec> x3cion: Could it be, that the maximal possible resolution for your card is 2*1280?
[14:22] <BUGabundo> tuxFan: install codecs or CSS
[14:23] <BUGabundo> its not legal everywhere in the wolrd
[14:23] <BUGabundo> tuxFan: or use medibutnu
[14:23] <BUGabundo> !medbuntu | tuxFan
[14:23] <x3cion> minimec, if i configure it with xrandr (xrandr --output LVDS --auto --output VGA-0 --right-of LVDS --auto) then it works and the resolution is default
[14:24] <tuxFan> i got libdvdcss2 install
[14:24] <x3cion> minimec, but some kind of restriction seems to be there, its really weird
[14:24] <x3cion> if i turn on composite for example, a bit of the right screen is black
[14:24] <tuxFan> still cant play dvds , any idea?
[14:24] <x3cion> i had this before
[14:24] <BUGabundo> tuxFan: what app? totem?
[14:25] <BUGabundo> please try totem-xine, vlc, mplayer from medibuntu
[14:25] <slytherin> tuxFan: what do you mean by can't play? which player?
[14:25] <tuxFan> both , xine and totem
[14:25] <slytherin> BUGabundo: please don't suggest medibuntu unless it is absolutely necessary
[14:26] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo , Ubuntu 8.04 LTS Desktop Edition Released". www.ubuntu.com. ... "As a result, we can commit that the next LTS release of Ubuntu will be 10.04 LTS
[14:27] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: link please
[14:27] <BUGabundo> slytherin: mind tell me why?
[14:27] <Pici> We don't control medibuntu.
[14:28] <BluesKaj> slytherin , medibuntu is fine , it doesn't break anything and the packages available there work well
[14:28] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu
[14:28] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: thats not even oficial wiki
[14:28] <BUGabundo> Pici: right... thats a valid reason
[14:28] <slytherin> BluesKaj: BUGabundo: in this case particularly there is nothing medibuntu packages do which ubuntu package can not.
[14:28] <BluesKaj> picky picky :)
[14:30] <BUGabundo> slytherin: correct
[14:30] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: just want a clean source!
[14:30] <BluesKaj> slytherin , fine stick to your argument , but there are ppl who use media apps provided by medibuntu who would disagree ...if you want to remain a legal/purist , that's your business.
[14:30] <BUGabundo> BluesKaj: like marks blog where he states changing the not yet certain date
[14:30] <BUGabundo> i do use alot of stuff from MB
[14:31] <BluesKaj> URL/and date ?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> frankly I don't really care ...the LTS is on schedule and medibuntu is perfectly fine , ask the bot
[14:32] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[14:32] <ugliefrog> dang its going to take 2hrs and 19 minutes to upgrade
[14:32] <BluesKaj> but it doesn't tell you it breaks your system
[14:32] <BluesKaj> ok , I'm gone ..
[14:34] <BUGabundo> ugliefrog: change mirror?
[14:36] <ugliefrog> BUGabundo: Its already in the process....I dont want it to mess up..I should have  thought of that before I clicked upgrade
[14:36] <BUGabundo> ugliefrog: still donwloading? then its not a prob
[14:36] <BUGabundo> only installing may be
[14:36] <BUGabundo> and force to run dpgk --configure -a
[14:36] <BUGabundo> but downloading should not be a prob
[14:37] <ipatel> 9.04 has been released
[14:37] <BUGabundo> ipatel: oh really?
[14:37] <ipatel> yes
[14:37] <ipatel> (final version)
[14:38] <rski> lets see how long it takes for the servers to crap their pants
[14:38] <BUGabundo> rski: they already are
[14:38] <Pici> FYI, this channel is forwarded to #ubuntu now, so if you leave, you can't come back until closer to Karmic A1
[14:39] <BUGabundo> ohhhhh
[14:39] <BUGabundo> guys i'll miss u all! really!
[14:39] <joaopinto> lol
[14:39] <BUGabundo> i cant be on #ubuntu
[14:39] <BUGabundo> to noisy!
[14:40] <rski> so where's the koala
[14:41] <Pici> !schedule
[14:41] <SandGorgon> anybody have link to kubuntu desktop torrent ?
[14:41] <rski> Pici: i think i found it! http://static.arstechnica.com/koala-ubuntu-2.jpg
[14:41] <Pici> No comment.
[14:41] <BUGabundo> joaopinto: akgraner calc dtchen gnomefreak Hew hggdh jpds kklimonda maxb mvo nhandler Pici pwnguin rww  [[]]]
[14:41] <jpds> BUGabundo: Hi.
[14:42] <Pici> BUGabundo: uh...
[14:42] <gnomefreak> ?
[14:42] <Hew> BUGabundo
[14:42] <Hew> see everyone back here for Karmic :-)
[14:43] <BUGabundo> Hew: yep! i'm sure a bunch of us, will be reunited soon
[14:43] <BUGabundo> its a peaty this # gets closed!
[14:44] <Hew> it's a pity we don't have a new development release to start using already! Stable makes me feel funny :P
[14:44] <Hew> ah well, time to help out with sru-verification
[14:45] <gnomefreak> Pici: lets leave it open for today, i will check toolchain uploads, once tool chain is in we should open channel IMHO
[14:45] <Pici> gnomefreak: Okay.
[14:45]  * gnomefreak has other thing more pressing atm. thanks Pici
[14:45] <SandGorgon> i see the DVD of kubuntu .. but not the CD ISO...
[14:45] <gnomefreak> s/pressing/pressing issues/
[14:45] <BUGabundo> Hew:  miss runing UM 4x a day
[14:46] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: thanks
[14:46] <TuTUXG> is it out?
[14:46] <gnomefreak> yes
[14:46] <TuTUXG> YEAHHHHHHHHHH!
[14:46] <BUGabundo> ahah
[14:46] <BUGabundo> TuTUXG: u came when ppl were already picking up the trash!
[14:47] <TuTUXG> sory guys, just woke up ;)
[14:47] <BUGabundo> the all party was WAITING for it
[14:47] <BUGabundo> this was the earliest release i ever remember of
[14:47] <BUGabundo> 14h GMT not bad
[14:47] <gnomefreak> see #ubuntu-release-party for release fun or #ubuntu for support
[14:47] <BUGabundo> 14:16 to be exact by the email
[14:47] <TuTUXG> im so happy!
[14:48] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: release-party is a mess! blows my mind there
[14:48] <BUGabundo> its worse the offtopic
[14:48] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: agrees
[14:48] <gnomefreak> i agree even
[14:48] <BUGabundo> theres a limite to what i can track! eheh
[14:49] <gnomefreak> tool chain is not released yet but will know more after i deal with this
[14:50] <BUGabundo> great
[14:50] <rconan> BUGabundo: I thought I remembered one in the morning but I might be wrong
[14:50] <BUGabundo> it would be so cool to not have to wait a *week*
[14:50] <gnomefreak> my fault im missing repos to check toolchain
[14:50] <BUGabundo> rconan: cant be sure... i've just been tracking releases since 6.10
[14:51] <BUGabundo> 7
[14:51] <BUGabundo> 7.10 was a 19GMT
[14:51] <rconan> ok... I was gonna say... that's most of them
[14:51] <BUGabundo> 8.04 16GMT
[14:51] <BUGabundo> 8.10 15.30GMT i think
[14:51] <BUGabundo> so this was the earliest i remember
[14:52] <BUGabundo> its just a question of checking announce emails
[14:52] <BUGabundo> should be fast!
[14:52] <BUGabundo> rconan: feel free to collect it eheh
[14:52] <gnomefreak> ok ill be back a bit later
[14:53] <thiebaude> hi BUGabundo
[14:53] <BUGabundo> cant find 8.10 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2008-October/thread.html
[14:53] <BUGabundo> thiebaude: [[]]
[14:54] <rconan> 4.10 was at 1406
[14:54] <rconan> so that's earlier :p
[14:54] <rconan> oh no... 1606 I got the TZ wrong
[14:54] <BUGabundo> wrong archve duh
[14:54] <BUGabundo> rconan: eheh
[14:55] <BUGabundo> LOL
[14:55] <BUGabundo> 8.10 Thu Oct 30 14:11:31 GMT 2008
[14:55] <BUGabundo> 8.04 Thu Apr 24 13:17:20 BST 2008
[14:56] <BUGabundo> 7.10 Thu Oct 18 12:15:03 BST 2007
[14:56] <rconan> BUGabundo: probably a little offtopic to paste them all :p
[14:56] <BUGabundo> 7.04 Thu Apr 19 15:18:16 BST 2007
[14:56] <BUGabundo> rconan: we are already dead
[14:56] <BUGabundo> so now its nostalgic
[14:56] <BUGabundo> until toolchain
[14:56] <BUGabundo> eheh
[14:57] <Pici> !ot
[14:57] <BUGabundo> at least there will be a irc log of it
[14:57] <BUGabundo> ok Pici
[14:57] <rconan> where is this archive you're using
[14:57] <rconan> 5.04 was Fri Apr 8 02:48:08 CDT 2005
[14:58] <rconan> which is 07:48:08 GT
[14:58] <rconan> s/GT/GMT
[14:58] <BUGabundo> bbl
[14:58] <BUGabundo> rconan: ubutnu-anounce
[15:04] <d1b> what's after jaunty ? koala ?
[15:04] <sebsebseb> d1b: Karmic  Koala
[15:11] <td123> lol
[15:11] <td123> when's the alpha 1 coming out?
[15:12] <td123> I never stay with the stable for long
[15:12] <sebsebseb> td123: yeah  same here
[15:12] <sebsebseb> td123: ,but as a result,  I got alpha6 of jaunty
[15:12] <sebsebseb> td123: and carried on updating, and still have some issues now
[15:12] <td123> sebsebseb: do a fresh install :P I always do that when I install an os
[15:13] <sebsebseb> td123: I am looking forward to doing a nice clean install with the final and Ext4,  but  probably better to wait untill weekend.  since the download servers will be packed
[15:13] <td123> sebsebseb: I dled the jaunty cd this morning just when it came out :P 400kbps speeds :P
[15:13] <td123> I bet they're like 400bps atm :P
[15:13] <sebsebseb> td123: I should have upgraded when it was on the beta really,  then  things maybe would have been a bit better.  ,but the  two main issues were KDE 4.2 buggering up.  and no sound in  Gnome.  so  nothing major.   KDE 4.2 apps still worked in Gnome.  I had the ppa in ibex before upgrading
[15:14] <sebsebseb> td123: I just tried to  upgrade another computer from  8.04 to 8.10, but  404 error messages for a few packages.   apparnatlly it's all on the same server
[15:14] <td123> yup, I still feel kde needs more polish :/ although gnome needs more exciting stuff
[15:15] <sebsebseb> td123: well  KDE3  is actsaully available for 9.04 :)
[15:15] <td123> oh, that's convenient
[15:15] <sebsebseb> td123: indeed
[15:15] <slytherin> I am out of here. Enjoy your upgrades.
[15:15] <sebsebseb> td123: there's a seperate CD it's on a rc,  a bit behind  actaul 9.04.   and  yeah can install it into  9.04,  like could with 8.04.  have KDE3 and 4
[15:20] <nztal> thank you all for your help during the course of this channel.
[15:25] <sebsebseb> nztal: it will be back, when there is something to talk about when it comes to 9.10
[15:26] <dany_21a_> sebsebseb: kde3 for 9.10 - how or where can i get this?
[15:26] <dany_21a_> *errr 9.04 i mean
[15:26] <sebsebseb> dany_21a_: indeed, but it's  currently a release candiate and a seperate CD
[15:26] <sebsebseb> dany_21a_: well you can install  it into 9.04
[15:26] <sebsebseb> dany_21a_: ,but it's  still a release candidate
[15:26] <dany_21a_> okay thx... will give it a look...
[15:26] <sebsebseb> dany_21a_: it's a little behind the proper 9.04
[15:27] <sebsebseb> dany_21a_: since only one guy has been doing it
[15:27] <sebsebseb> dany_21a_: it's great the KDE3 has been resurected for Ubuntu though.   it had died before with 8.04 being the last one that had it in repo
[15:52] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: you called? :)
[15:53] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: no! just saying good bye! we're closing
[15:53] <BUGabundo> td123: i dont usually see u around!
[15:54] <gnomefreak> Irssi 0.8.12 (20071006) - http://irssi.org/
[15:58] <td123> BUGabundo: :P
[15:59] <td123> too busy optimizing a neuronet
[16:02] <Laney> nobody's kicked us all yet?
[16:02] <Laney> how boring!
[16:05]  * gnomefreak has no problem clearing the channel ;) be carefull what you wish for
[16:07] <Eruaran> I wish for chocolates... with little K's on them ;)
[16:09]  * td123 wishes for a chocolate that looks like the ubuntu logog
[16:11] <Eruaran> you know, I reckon they'd sell :)
[16:13] <td123> if you like off the color coating you get a secret terminal message inscribed in the chocolate :P
[16:13]  * td123 runs off to the patent office
[16:13] <Eruaran> hah
[16:13] <td123> oops like -> lick :D
[16:14] <Eruaran> That settles it then
[16:14] <Eruaran> We shall put in a request
[16:14] <td123> lol
[16:14] <Eruaran> Ubuntu chocolates in the Canonical shop
[16:14] <td123> Eruaran: if it gets approved, I want to get the first one free :D
[16:14] <Eruaran> :D
[16:15] <Eruaran> whats better, milk, dark or... belgian
[16:16] <ikonia> gents - check the /topic in here please
[16:16] <Eruaran> kk ;)
[16:17] <Eruaran> So will this channel re-open again when 9.10 alpha 1 appears ?
[16:18] <LjL> Eruaran: sooner than that, most likely
[16:18] <Eruaran> ok
[16:19] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: well, see you soon when karmic is released for development - well, maybe I'll go and see what's happening on #ubuntu for a while :)
[16:21] <td123> kklimonda: you better have a 24 " monitor to catch a glance at what's written on the screen :D
[16:56] <rww> Heh, so if I leave this channel, I can't rejoin it?
[16:58] <W8TAH> is there a release party channel anyplace?
[16:58] <rww> W8TAH: #ubuntu-release-party
[16:58] <W8TAH> thanks - congrats to the devs etc
[17:02]  * td123 is waiting for kranky koala to enter alpha 1 :D
[17:03] <manpoole> heh on the 9.04 features on ubuntu.com they have the jonas brothers listed on last.fm lol
[17:03] <Halow> Ew...
[17:10]  * td123 screams like a girl
[17:10] <td123> jk,jk
[18:07] <funkyHat> heh. bye everyone!
[18:09] <Chr|s> I wanna get kicked!
[18:09] <Chr|s> :D
[18:10] <Chr|s> when jaunty comes out #ubuntu will be the mains support channel for it then karmac will be for this one correct?
[18:11] <Pici> Chr|s: Jaunty is out
[18:11] <Chr|s> oh cool
[18:11] <Pici> Once the toolchain is released for Karmic then this channel will open, or near Alpha 1
[18:12] <Chr|s> ok thanks
[18:13] <lemonade> ok, bye
[18:14] <lemonade> see you soon ;)
[18:28] <sebsebseb> test
[18:29] <rww> sebsebseb: FAIL
[18:30] <sebsebseb> rww: no  didn't fail, just checking I could send messages here still
[18:31] <rww> sebsebseb: I know. It was a joke.
[18:31] <rww> sebsebseb: I might as well.
[18:36] <TheFunkbomb> Thank you all for the good times
[20:41] <Killeroid> hmm, is this channel still open?
[20:42] <genii> Apparently
[20:44] <Cycom> well it's not like there isn't going to be a 9.10
[20:45] <Killeroid> yeah but they usually shut tihs channel down till an alpha(I think that or a toolchain) is released for the upcoming release
[20:51] <Pici> Its already invite only.
[20:55] <tty> so is it
[20:55] <tty> over?
[20:58] <tty>  TychoQuad> My 3G modem is no longer identified by the network manager whenever I plug it in
[20:58] <tty>           in Jaunty. it sees it if it's plugged in when I boot the computer, but if i disconnect
[20:58] <tty>           it, it's lost until next boot. anyone have any ideas?
[20:58] <tty> reason enough to avoid it!
[21:04] <sebsebseb> Cycom: what's a toolchain?
[21:04] <sebsebseb> Pici: invite only?
[21:08] <rww> Killeroid: The channel's set +f, so anyone who tries to join it gets sent to #ubuntu instead. So it's closed in the sense that nobody can join.
[21:24] <oobe> im still using beta and nothing works to   update
[21:25] <sebsebseb> oobe: yeah
[21:25] <sebsebseb> oobe: I  did a  8.10,  to  alpha6, to  beta,  to rc
[21:26] <oobe> and rc wouldnt upatte
[21:26] <oobe> it thinks it is the newsest
[21:26] <sebsebseb> oobe: upgrade install. and things are still messed up here and there from alpha6,  now  I got the stop sign.  I am clean installing this   on the weekend
[21:26] <sebsebseb> oobe: probably better to clean install.  there can still be some bugs left behind from the beta, or bad config files
[21:27] <sebsebseb> oobe: are you running Ext3 or Ext4 by the way?   I am trying Ext4 when I clean install :)
[21:42] <oobe> cat /etc/lsb-release
[21:42] <oobe> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu
[21:42] <oobe> DISTRIB_RELEASE=9.04
[21:42] <oobe> DISTRIB_CODENAME=jaunty
[21:42] <oobe> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 9.04"
[21:42] <oobe> looks like i have juanty but i dont
[21:43] <Halow> Don't?
[21:48] <yofel_> well, back here then for karmic guys, bye!
[22:48] <nemo> hey folks
[22:48] <nemo> I was on the beta. now that release has happened.
[22:48] <nemo> do I have to do anything special to switch to it?
[22:48] <nemo> or did that happen automatically?
[22:49] <nemo> is there any way I can check?
[22:49] <jacob> nemo: if you have all updates applied, you're all set.
[22:49] <nemo> yep. all up to date
[22:49] <nemo> sweet.
[22:49] <nemo> that means the guy I put on the beta 2 weeks ago to avoid making him jump from ibex is up to date too
[22:49] <nemo> thanks
[22:50] <nemo> well. that's it I guess. see y'all.
[23:41] <badfish69> what linux kernel version does jaunty use?
[23:44] <joetheodd> badfish69, 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:58:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux