[12:00] <Satya> okay; thanks ppl! ; need to reboot bye!
[12:00] <harisund> reboot?
[12:00] <astriskmanish> harisund, yes all the horry changes to breezy
[12:00] <harisund> why on earth would .. ok never mind :)
[12:00] <Jowi> GazzaK: the users are logged in via ssh or by some other means to your server and you want to log them out?
[12:00] <harisund> Manish. Good.. now you see what the 'sed' command did? Anyway, back to the terminal, do 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:01] <GazzaK> well, that woke me up, cheers Jowi :)
[12:01] <astriskmanish> harisund, its working...
[12:01] <nny>    /join #ubuntu+1
[12:02] <nny> heh
[12:02] <samuli> funny thing, that Satya was at least the second guy now coming to ubuntu and saying install cd didn't install X.
[12:02] <harisund> astriskmanish: good to hera that. Once you finis hwith 'sudo apt-get update' .. wait, what was your question in the first place?
[12:02] <harisund> samuli: generally, X would have got instaled but the corect drivers wouldn't have got in. Users will then end up with a blank screen and an assumption that X is not present.
[12:03] <megaman123> trying to configure a file ... and i get an error at C compiler...do i have to install anything for that ???
[12:03] <harisund> megaman123: What error?
[12:03] <samuli> harisund, <Satya> I tried startx
 it sats no file /etc/x11/x
[12:03] <samuli> lol.. x11
[12:03] <harisund> I doubt there i /etc/x11/x
[12:03] <samuli> it's X11
[12:03] <samuli> :)
[12:03] <harisund> x needs to be upper cae
[12:03] <harisund> right.
[12:03] <samuli> yeah, damn.
[12:03] <astriskmanish> harisund, i think after that if any error msg didnt come then just i have to give this command sudo apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop
[12:04] <harisund> Manish, cross your fingers, pray real hard and yes, do that command.
[12:04] <megaman123> checking for C compiler default ouput file name....configure: error: C complier cannot create executable
[12:04] <astriskmanish> harisund, i m doing that same..:)
[12:04] <samuli> harisund, but anyways, he's not the only one who has complained about that.
[12:04] <Babacom> guys ... i'am using gnome-xchat but can't seem to get spelling to work. When looking in 'preferences', there is no language/dictionary to choose from ... any suggestions?
[12:05] <harisund> samuli: hmm.. you are rihgt.. indeed something fishy :)
[12:05] <samuli> and startx shouldn't depend on the directory.
[12:06] <samuli> I had similar problems with debian testing few days back.. It didn't install gnome-desktop-environment for some reason.
[12:06] <samuli> had to apt-get it manually.
[12:07] <harisund> hmm.. I see..
[12:07] <Managu> megaman123: I'm not sure if I'm reading your error correctly, but you might want to make sure you have "build-essentials" installed
[12:07] <megaman123> harisund: any ideas ??
[12:08] <megaman123> Managu: on will try that
[12:09] <simian__> I've been trying all evening to print to my epson RX620 cennected to a windows box
[12:09] <simian__> It's driving me mad
[12:09] <simian__> I can see the printer but it just won't print
[12:09] <Jowi> simian__: the printer recieves the job?
[12:10] <simian__> Jowi: no
[12:10] <Jowi> simian__: are you behind a router?
[12:10] <gringo> anyone can help me resolving this problem: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/715991 <-- i tried to set up xgl
[12:10] <simian__> Jowi: yes
[12:10] <shasbot> is it possible to get more screen resolution options?
[12:11] <Abountu> I hope I didn't do something very bad, ;)  I wanted to try another msn client, I remember a client called dMsn, which is now known as mercury, I downloaded the .dep package and installed it using dpkg -i
[12:11] <Abountu> now it says there is no java runtime
[12:11] <harisund> astriskmanish what happened? Prayers worked?
[12:11] <megaman123> Managu: ya that did it :)) thanks
[12:11] <astriskmanish> harisund, its working my kubuntu desktop is installing
[12:11] <Abountu> which is not true
[12:11] <Managu> megaman123:  cool
[12:11] <Jowi> simian__: so it is safe for you to make sure all software firewalls in windows are disabled/uninstalled :) that can improve alot of windows networking issues
[12:12] <simian__> Jowi: ok i'll disable them for now and see what happens
[12:12] <simian__> Jowi: thanks
[12:12] <Abountu> I can't seem to find uninstall mercury now
[12:12] <Abountu> can anyone help?
[12:13] <astriskmanish> harisund, can i make a cd of all packages which i had downloaded so that in feature if my system crash then i dont have to wait to that ling to get all my packages
[12:14] <burzum> hi
[12:14] <burzum> i try to boot the dapperflight 7 live cd but it doenst start. it stops always at "mounting root file system"
[12:14] <harisund> astriskmanish: That's quite resourceful thinking :) Either you could just download the Kubuntu CD itself online. But I am not sure how you would do what exactly you want to do .. maybe somebody here can help us with using the power of apt to save packages and move them around?
[12:14] <the_mr_bong_show> ok im bored with ubuntu help me
[12:14] <NoUse> burzum have you checked the integrity of the CD?
[12:14] <burzum> yes its ok
[12:15] <samuli> burzum, have you tried to chek.. ok.
[12:15] <NoUse> !ask
[12:15] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model and output of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org is important.
[12:15] <ubuntu> burzum: Go to Ubuntu+1
[12:15] <Davros> bored with ubuntu?
[12:15] <burzum> how can i disable the splash? i want to see the kernelmessages while booting
[12:15] <the_mr_bong_show> yes
[12:15] <Abountu> is there a way i can unistall a .dep pakage not installed using apt-get (installed using dpkg)
[12:15] <Jowi> simian__: found a forumpost with a step-by-step setup otherwise: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-32190.html and also this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter
[12:15] <Davros> Is that a support issue? ;p
[12:15] <ubuntu> no
[12:15] <samuli> the_mr_bong_show, try something else or aptitude kde?
[12:15] <ubuntu> I ned to change my screenname back
[12:15] <the_mr_bong_show> aptitude kde?
[12:16] <astriskmanish> harisund, what abt for that packages which i have downloaded in ubuntu itself??
[12:16] <samuli> yeah. try that if you like it better than gnome.
[12:16] <lasindi[lappy] > Hi all, I want to install the MPlayer Mozilla plugin. I tried checking it in Synaptic, but it told me I have unresolved dependencies (which I presume includes MPlayer itself), but I can't find them anywhere else. Is it possible to find MPlayer repositories?
[12:16] <samuli> the_mr_bong_show, just sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop (or kde or kde-core) depending on how much you feel like downloading.
[12:16] <iNiku> akkaka: same way as any other .deb, apt-get remove package
[12:16] <akkaka> got dc :( ... so trying to run vdr i get this error "can't access video directoy /var/lib/video.00" ??
[12:17] <iNiku> Abountu: or dpkg --remove package
[12:17] <Jowi> Abountu: apt-get remove packagename works
[12:17] <harisund> astriskmanish: look, all packages tat you have downloaded are in /var/cache/apt/
[12:17] <simian__> Jowi: thanks for the links, one of them i have followed already. i'll try the other one
[12:17] <Tedd|> Does anyone know the program to transfer Linux -> Windows partition?
[12:17] <Tedd|> Isn't it ext2 something
[12:17] <GTroy> help! pages are taking forever to load!!!!
[12:18] <samuli> Tedd|, what do you mean by transferring? changing file system?
[12:18] <Davros> ext2fs?
[12:18] <GTroy> or, not loading at all
[12:18] <Tedd|> ext2fs isn't it
[12:18] <Tedd|> Gtroy: I'm in windows, I want to retrieve my mp3's from my linux partition
[12:18] <akkaka> how can i give access to my user to a folder while not being root ?
[12:18] <Davros> explore2fs
[12:18] <Tedd|> That's the one
[12:18] <astriskmanish> harisund, thanx a lot..(can i have ur email id if u dont mind then)
[12:18] <Tedd|> Thank you Davor
[12:18] <Tedd|> Davey`,
[12:19] <Tedd|> Davros
[12:19] <Davros> :)
[12:19] <bron> does anyone here know how the xorg.conf file gets generated initially when ubuntu is installed?
[12:19] <Managu> akkaka: permissions are a security measure.  If you don't have permission to look at a folder, and you don't own that folder, there shouldn't be any way you can access it
[12:21] <akkaka> so if installed vdr as root and now im running in another user i can not give tat user access to this folder
[12:21] <Abountu> iNiku: that didn't work
[12:21] <Abountu> Jovi: this didn't work neither
[12:22] <aLPHa_LeaK> n8
[12:22] <iNiku> Abountu: why not?
[12:22] <iNiku> Abountu: what's the error?
[12:22] <Jowi> Abountu: then you are not typing in the correct package name
[12:22] <dooglus> bron: /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg.postinst does it
[12:22] <Abountu> dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[12:23] <iNiku> Abountu: yeah. for package foo.deb, you must say apt-get remove foo
[12:23] <iNiku> not foo.deb
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> Anybody know of a metric-English conversion program?
[12:23] <Managu> akkaka: right
[12:23] <Jowi> Abountu: what did you install? what was the file name?
[12:23] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: google.com can do that
[12:23] <akkaka> so do i reinstall it ??
[12:23] <Abountu> Jowi.. yes I am typing (using the tab completion)
[12:23] <GTroy> I can't get any pages other than google and digg to load....help!!!
[12:23] <Abountu> Jowi: I installed mercury-messenger_1710_S7_i386.deb
[12:23] <Managu> akkaka: well, you could switch to root (e.g. with "sudo") and change the accesses
[12:23] <iNiku> tonyyarusso: I use google... "15 m in ft" or similar
[12:24] <Jowi> Abountu: do this "apt-cache search -n mercury" and see what the *real* package name is
[12:24] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: http://www.google.com/search?q=100+mph+in+km%2Fh for example
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, iNiku: Only when I'm online.
[12:24] <akkaka> ya ..this is what i want...how do i change / give access
[12:24] <iNiku> tonyyarusso: you need an offline converter? hmm
[12:25] <Abountu> I got many output
[12:25] <iNiku> tonyyarusso: what a weird concept, my computers are never offline :)
[12:25] <tonyyarusso> iNiku: Dialup.
[12:25] <Abountu> Jowi: one is mercury-messenger - Mercury Messenger Debian Package version 1710
[12:25] <Abountu> which is what I did install
[12:25] <Jowi> Abountu: "sudo apt-get remove mercury-messenger"
[12:25] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: did you try 'units'?
[12:25] <iNiku> tonyyarusso: sorry, don't know of any conversion tools, although I'm sure there are plenty
[12:25] <Abountu> Jowi: should I say apt-get remove mercury-messenter
[12:25] <tonyyarusso> I suppose as a last resort I could be learning python and throwing something together.
[12:26] <Abountu> Jowi: oh ok , thx
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Looking for that now.
[12:26] <Managu> akkaka: I think you need to descrbe your problem in more detail.  What did you install, and how?  What problems do you get when you try to access it?  What are you trying to accomplish?  Etc.
[12:26] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: it's in dapper's universe.
[12:26] <trip358> help, I just installed ubuntu on my laptop and I cant get my network to work
[12:26] <mendi> good morning everyone
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Looks very promising.  Thanks.
[12:26] <corerunner> good evening
[12:26] <Davros> Morning? What time zone?
[12:26] <goldenratio> O.o
[12:26] <akkaka> i isntalled vdr using root, but it does not run from root..so i switched to another user to run it, but now it can not access its video folder
[12:27] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: "apt-cache search convert units" is how I found it
[12:27] <tonyyarusso> (Silly me - I tried searching for 'metric' rather than 'units')
[12:27] <mendi> i have a problem with pkg_config_path
[12:27] <mendi> anyone can help?
[12:27] <Managu> what is vdr?
[12:27] <dooglus> Video Disk Recorder
[12:28] <akkaka> its video recoder for satellite cards
[12:28] <Managu> where did you install it?
[12:28] <akkaka> on my pc :))
[12:28] <trip358> When i log on I get a message: "could not lookup internet adress for (user)"
[12:28] <mendi> please help me with pkg_config_path?!
[12:28] <Managu> akkaka: errm, something more specific might be handy.  Also, what is the full path to its "video folder"?
[12:28] <dooglus> !justask
[12:28] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[12:29] <Abountu> does any one knows how to use fuser to see which programme is locking which file?
[12:29] <akkaka> its: /var/lib/video.00
[12:29] <BlankMind> Guys, I don't understand anything of linux and I need help, here it goes: How I install programs in Ubuntu? I would like to install XMMS...
[12:29] <dooglus> Abountu: there's a document about that - type "man fuser" to read it
[12:29] <Abountu> ok
[12:30] <dooglus> BlankMind: run synaptic from the 3rd menu
[12:30] <mendi> please help me with pkg_config_path?!
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager.
[12:30] <Managu> akkaka: that's a folder?  If so, you might try "sudo chmod 777 /var/lib/video.00"
[12:30] <dooglus> mendi: ask a question and maybe we can
[12:30] <dooglus> mendi: what kind of help would you like?
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: Search for xmms, check the box by it, and click Apply.
[12:30] <richard> greetings to all
[12:30] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: (If you can't find something you think you should be there, you may need to enable !universe)
[12:30] <akkaka> thanks :)))
[12:31] <richard> is there anyone here running quake4 in ubuntu ?
[12:31] <dooglus> the !bot is too !stupid to pick up on !keywords in the middle of lines
[12:31] <BlankMind> calm down, this synaptic is a program database?
[12:31] <harisund> dooglus.. it is a bot after all :)
[12:31] <mendi> im installing mysql query browser from source and it is requiring several dependencies. i want to install those dep. but it is giving error: pkg-config can't find glib-2.0 but glib is installed
[12:32] <dooglus> BlankMind: synaptic lists all the packages in the ubuntu repositories and lets you install and uninstall them
[12:32] <PrimoTurbo> what packages do I need for compiling?
[12:32] <HymnToLife> !b-e
[12:32] <ubotu> or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, or get "make: command not found, then you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[12:32] <dooglus> mendi: install the deps with "sudo apt-get build-dep mysql"
[12:32] <goldenratio> bleh, sudo is everywhere...
[12:33] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: It's what's known as a frontend.  It accesses the package database and gives you a pretty GUI to install stuff from it with.
[12:33] <HymnToLife> !sudo
[12:33] <ubotu> methinks sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:33] <mendi> dooglus: my connection is dial-up about 30kbps that's why i decided to install it from source
[12:33] <harisund>  goldenratio, maybe you htinking it would be good to have 'dosu' for a change?
[12:33] <BlankMind> ok, and there are some programs that are avaliable only in source code, is there an easy way to newbies like me compile and use them?
[12:33] <HymnToLife> !compiling
[12:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[12:33] <mendi> dooglus: i downloaded the source tarballs in a internet cafe :)
[12:33] <HymnToLife> ubotu has it all :D
[12:33] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[12:33] <BlankMind> ok
[12:33] <BlankMind> thank you very much =D
[12:34] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: Not very easy, but certainly possible to learn if you're so inclined.  We have 18,000 things that don't need compiling though, so that will be rare.  :)
[12:34] <dooglus> mendi: you don't have the glib-2.0-dev package for example.  you don't need to build glib-2.0 from source, but you do need to install the -dev version of the package.  that's what the command I suggested will do
[12:34] <goldenratio> can you rebuild every things in ubuntu?
[12:34] <harisund> goldenratio, gentoo style eh?
[12:34] <richard> is there anyone here running quake4 in ubuntu ?
[12:34] <dooglus> goldenratio: no, only things you have the source code for
[12:34] <goldenratio> more than that
[12:34] <HymnToLife> BlankMind> though in most cases you will find someone who built a package for it, google is your friend :)
[12:35] <goldenratio> in a easy way
[12:35] <goldenratio> an
[12:35] <BlankMind> I was going to try ZDoom later... (www.zdoom.org)
[12:36] <octan> howdy all..
[12:36] <mendi> dooglus: do you know how i can change pkg_config path?
[12:36] <dooglus> mendi: you don't need to.  what you need to do is install the dependencies that you're missing.  the various -dev packages.
[12:36] <octan> i have a pvr500 card.. and i was woundering is ther a pkg for the ivtv module and its firmware?
[12:37] <BlankMind> but Ubuntu is compatible what kind of package? I mean, I found some debian and .rpm stuff
[12:37] <dooglus> BlankMind: it's debian based.
[12:37] <HymnToLife> BlankMind> Ubuntu uses DEB, just like Debian
[12:37] <dooglus> BlankMind: but that doesn't mean that you can just install any .deb file and expect it to work - although it might.
[12:37] <BlankMind> so if I get a debian package, I use synaptic to use it?
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: But that doesn't mean you should use a Debian package.
[12:37] <HymnToLife> BlankMind> no, you use dpkg
[12:37] <HymnToLife> !dpkg
[12:37] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, HymnToLife
[12:38] <mendi> dooglus: i did but it says couldn't stat source files
[12:38] <dooglus> BlankMind: the next version of ubuntu, out in june, comes with a graphical tool for installing .deb files.  until then you do it from the command line
[12:38] <Managu> octan: I just recently dealt with that stuff.  Short story is, no, you need to do most of it from scratch.  That said, the driver website has a pretty thourough howto
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: Debian and Ubuntu use the same format, but don't have what's called 'binary compatibility'.  Meaning, Debian stuff is not guaranteed to work.
[12:38] <HymnToLife> !dpkg is <reply> To install DEB packages, run      sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:38] <ubotu> okay, HymnToLife
[12:38] <BlankMind> ok, a graphic interface would be nice for newbies like me =D
[12:38] <octan> Managu as i tought :\
[12:38] <BlankMind> well, but until now things are working hehe
[12:38] <mendi> dooglus: i already installed mysql
[12:38] <HymnToLife> tonyyarusso> but in most ases it will
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> BlankMind: But, you still can, as many will work.  Always look for an Ubuntu-specific one first though.  (In Dapper, you just double-click the package and it installs)
[12:39] <dooglus> mendi: that isn't relevant.
[12:39] <mendi> dooglus: but this time i wanna install browser for mysql
[12:39] <dooglus> mendi: if you want to build mysql then you will need to have the -dev versions of the libraries it uses
[12:39] <mendi> dooglus: what is irrelevant?
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> HymnToLife: I don't know percentages, so i'm not sure.  Still holds true that it's better to make sure you've looked first though of course.  (But yeah, I've used them on occasion.)
[12:39] <octan> Managu why havent anyone make that a pkg? pvr cards are populare tho
[12:40] <whiter> will there be an equiv of quick user switching on dapper?
[12:40] <dooglus> mendi: you need to add source lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:40] <whiter> or was i mistaken
[12:40] <BlankMind> I installed XMMS, opened it, but it does not plays a MP3 (in fact when I opened it's not working anymore)
[12:40] <whiter> whats it doing black
[12:40] <whiter> blank*
[12:40] <BlankMind> (XMMS is not answering now)
[12:40] <dooglus> mendi: edit the file as root, and make copies of the relevant lines but with 'deb-src' instead of 'deb' at the start.
[12:40] <whiter> oh
[12:40] <HymnToLife> tonyyarusso> sure but if you find only Debian-labeled packages, it's worth trying instead of going through all the compiling process
[12:40] <whiter> blankmind: open terminal and type "ps -A | grep xmms"
[12:40] <HymnToLife> like Skype for ex, has only one DEB file
[12:41] <whiter> then do kill -9 <whatever pid ps returned for xmms>
[12:41] <whiter> then open XMMS and goto the options menu then preferences and change the output plugin to whatever works... ALSA one works for me
[12:41] <HymnToLife> sudo killall xmms    <ill <ork too I think
[12:41] <mendi> dooglus: how can i update the list?
[12:42] <whiter> yea it will hymm
[12:42] <tonyyarusso> HymnToLife: Yeah.
[12:42] <highstakes1> hi
[12:42] <akkaka> bew error while compiling "./configure" : checking for X ... configure error: can't find X includes ?????
[12:42] <akkaka> what are X ??
[12:42] <HymnToLife> !x
[12:42] <ubotu> x is, like, a portable, network-transparent window system.
[12:42] <whiter> why are you compiling X ?
[12:42] <tonyyarusso> HymnToLife: Oh, don't get me started on Skype though...linux version is buggy and that annoys me.
[12:42] <HymnToLife> yeah, I wonder too
[12:42] <HymnToLife> I've heard that compiling X is hell
[12:42] <whiter> yea it is
[12:43] <Managu> octan: the drivers are kernel specific
[12:43] <dooglus> mendi: what do you mean?  edit the file as root, adding lines for 'deb-src' where you see 'deb' lines
[12:43] <octan> Managu, do you think i can use this howto
[12:43] <whiter> akkaka why are you compiling X ?
[12:43] <akkaka> KVDR.. where could i find it ??
[12:43] <octan> http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Ubuntu
[12:43] <HymnToLife> tonyyarusso> if you say so.. I'm deaf so I pretty much never use it
[12:43] <akkaka> its a gui for VDR
[12:43] <dooglus> mendi: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" will edit the file as root if that's what you're asking
[12:43] <Managu> octan: and I suspect the firmware has abysmal redistribution terms
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> HymnToLife: Ah.
[12:43] <delmar> FYI anyone who is interested... the stock Java JRE that is part of ubuntu (1.4.2) is not compatible with the latest version of Azureus and was the root of all the troubles.  Installing the latest JRE (1.5 update 6) and setting Azureus to use this fixed all the issues I had.
[12:43] <dooglus> mendi: or do you mean you've edited the file but it's made no difference?  if so, run "sudo apt-get update"
[12:44] <akkaka> ubotu: where could i find it "X" ??
[12:44] <ubotu> akkaka: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:44] <delmar> err.. let me correct that...
[12:44] <Managu> octan: Not a clue.  When I tried it 2 weeks ago, their main ftp site (shrpvr? something like that) was down.  This made it a challenge to find the firmware
[12:44] <delmar> FYI anyone who is interested... the stock Java JRE (1.4.2) that is part of ubuntu 5.10 is not compatible with the latest version of Azureus and was the root of all the troubles.  Installing the latest JRE (1.5 update 6) and setting Azureus to use this fixed all the issues I had.
[12:44] <dooglus> delmar: you just said that
[12:44] <delmar> nope
[12:44] <delmar> i didnt
[12:44] <Snake__> How do I know what video driver im using
[12:44] <dooglus> oh i see
[12:44] <delmar> :P
[12:44] <whiter> Snake check xorg.conf
[12:44] <Davros> Hmm....
[12:45] <delmar> dooglus, needed correcting :P
[12:45] <dooglus> you said 2 contradictory things?  how are we supposed to know which one to believe?
[12:45] <Snake__> whiter: ok
[12:45] <BlankMind> it worked, thanks =D
[12:45] <delmar> dooglus, ignore the first one would be the obvious thing to do :P
[12:45] <BlankMind> worked using esound
[12:45] <delmar> so anyway... java on ubuntu 5.10 needs to be fixed in my opinion.
[12:46] <trip345> HI, can anybody help me with a intel wireless problem
[12:46] <Snake__> whiter: great thanks
[12:46] <Managu> delmar: no real surprise.  GCJ/libgcj are constantly in catch-up mode.  Besides, I bet azarus uses swing, and so far as I've heard, gcj still doesn't have swing support
[12:46] <Kr0ntab> back
[12:46] <Kr0ntab> wut up.
[12:47] <delmar> Managu, ok. im no programmer so i dunno what "swing" is or does... but torrents wouldnt connect properly or start and lots of wierdness... all good now tho
[12:47] <megaman123> hey thanks for the link :)) the http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/?q=X+includes
[12:47] <dooglus> delmar: I'm running java version "1.4.2-02" with Azureus <IP_ADDRESS> and it's working just fine.  what problems were you having?
[12:47] <delmar> dooglus, none anymore.
[12:47] <dooglus> *were*
[12:48] <delmar> dooglus, as i say.. start it up.. set a torrent.. and it wouldnt start..mostly red face.. occasionally changes to blue.. and rarely changes to green but then goes red again within seconds.. logs showed many connection attempts but all failing "select registration" were things mentioned... all kinds of crap.
[12:48] <Skwid_> is it possible to have a split window in nautilus ?
[12:49] <trip345> I just installed ubuntu, and the wireless doesnt work. And I'm getting an error about the hostname not being found
[12:49] <delmar> dooglus, forced Az to use the new and latest JRE I downloaded.. and everything works perfectly.. it even popped up wanting to update azplugins when i started it.. and it started much faster.. neither of which it was doing before
[12:50] <anstei> delmar: looks more like a connection problem than a java problem
[12:50] <anstei> ah well, maybe i should the stuff said before.
[12:51] <delmar> anstei, obviously not... regular "bittorrent" application worked fine.. and switching to the latest java.. works fine.. torrents start ang go green within seconds.
[12:51] <dooglus> delmar: odd that I'm not having those problems.  occasionally all peers will stop uploading and downloading at once, and start up again a few seconds later, but other than that it's fine
[12:51] <delmar> dooglus, when u do "java --version" what do u get?
[12:51] <Remy> hey guys, I'm having issues with update...
[12:51] <dooglus> delmar: some kind of error message.
[12:51] <Skwid_> is it possible to have a split window in nautilus ?
[12:51] <Remy> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:51] <Remy>  /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox_1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2_i386.deb
[12:51] <Remy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:51] <delmar> dooglus, really?
[12:51] <anstei> i just read what you said before. i agree it sounds rather strange.
[12:51] <delmar> dooglus, :P
[12:51] <dooglus> delmar: yes.  I'll paste it
[12:51] <delmar> dooglus, and i know whay
[12:51] <Remy> I get that after running sudo apt-get install -f
[12:51] <delmar> why
[12:51] <dooglus> (dapper) chris@chrislap:~/programs/emacs$ java --version
[12:51] <dooglus> Unrecognized option: --version
[12:51] <dooglus> Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[12:51] <Remy> which I was told to run after the update manager exited with error status (1)
[12:51] <Remy> any ideas ?
[12:52] <dooglus> delmar: the option should be '-version'
[12:52] <samuli> it's with one -
[12:52] <delmar> dooglus, nope. under ubuntu 5.10 latest java .. it uses --version not -version. under later non-stock versions its -version
[12:52] <dooglus> uh huh
[12:53] <delmar> dooglus, so .. "java -version" then...
[12:53] <dooglus> (dapper) chris@chrislap:~/programs/emacs$ java -version
[12:53] <dooglus> java version "1.4.2-02"
[12:53] <dooglus> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.2-02)
[12:53] <delmar> dooglus, uh huh
[12:53] <delmar> dooglus, and where did u get that from?
[12:53] <dooglus> is that the one you were having problems with?
[12:53] <dooglus> delmar: I guess it's package 'j2re1.4'
[12:53] <delmar> dooglus, nope. my ubuntu 5.10 system is fully up to date and i dont have that version installed...its 1.4.2
[12:54] <dooglus> delmar: does yours claim to be 'blackdown' like mine does?
[12:54] <dooglus> delmar: see the end of the last line I pasted?
[12:54] <odat> anyone able to send me a file so i can see if my dcc is working
[12:54] <delmar> dooglus, java version "1.4.2"
[12:54] <delmar> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[12:55] <odat> anyone able to send me a file so i can see if my dcc is working
[12:55] <dooglus> delmar: try package 'j2re1.4' then - do you have that installed?
[12:55] <delmar> dooglus, i dont think i do no.
 how did you install the firmaware? did you use the /lib/firmware as the dir?
[12:56] <delmar> dooglus, i will remember that if i have issues again. rather not risk breaking stuff when nothing is broke anymore :P
[12:56] <delmar> dooglus, Az recommends jre 1.5 or better anyway.
[12:56] <dooglus> delmar: I guess I should upgrade to 1.5 anyway.  where did you find it?  did you go the java-package route?
[12:57] <delmar> So.. the real story is... java version 1.4.2 gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9) blah blah.. is not going to work for Azureus
[12:57] <bron> does anyone know if it is possible to run dpkg-reconfigure and have it forget/ignore previous answers stored in the debconf database?
[12:57] <joedj> the RestrictedFormats wiki page has good instructions on turning the java packages (JRE and/or SDK) into .deb packages
[12:57] <delmar> dooglus, manual download and install into /usr/java/ for now
[12:57] <joedj> the Sun ones, that is
[12:57] <dooglus> delmar: ok.  that's a bit messy, but hey, if it works...
[12:58] <dooglus> delmar: I've used the java-package package before, as joedj suggests
[12:58] <delmar> dooglus, then edited the azureus startup script with the details.. started it and i was amaized at how much faster it seemed to load.. then it popped up wanting to run an update too which it never did before...
[12:59] <delmar> dooglus, well all u are doing is unpacking some filez, just like Azureus. could put it in like... /home/chrisp/apps/jre and point Az to that
[12:59] <dooglus> is there any way of finding a list of all the packages which provide /usr/bin/java (it's a symlink to /etc/alternatives)
[01:00] <dooglus> delmar: I guess, except you don't unpack the files, you run a binary from Sun, don't you?
[01:00] <iNiku> dooglus: update-alternatives --display /usr/bin/java
[01:00] <Managu> octan: errm, I'm running the Dapper beta, and it seems to me that they totally did the hotplug subsystem for Dapper.  The upshot is that the location I put the stuff will probably be different than where you put it
[01:00] <dooglus> iNiku: will that list packages that I didn't install yet?
[01:00] <delmar> dooglus, yeah but its just a self-extracting file with a license agreement :P
[01:00] <iNiku> dooglus: no, just the ones that are installed
[01:00] <Managu> octan: ... totally "redid" the hotplug system ...
[01:00] <octan> Managu im running dapper to
[01:00] <dooglus> iNiku: it tells me "No alternatives for /usr/bin/java."
[01:00] <delmar> dooglus, it doesn't do anything else.. just unpacks the files where u run the .bin from
[01:01] <iNiku> okay.
[01:01] <delmar> dooglus, so the new install is not pathed...
[01:01] <dooglus> iNiku: I guess you mean "update-alternatives --display java", but I was hoping to discover new packages which provide java - packages I didn't install yet.
[01:01] <delmar> dooglus, so your ubuntu java env. will be safe
[01:01] <ramza3__> general question; when you have a package where is a good place to learn how to set it up Ubuntu wiki?  For example I am trying to setup bugzilla with apt-get
[01:01] <Managu> octan: I put the firmware in /lib/firmware, aye
[01:01] <octan> :)
[01:02] <dooglus> delmar: OK, I see.
[01:02] <needlez> does anyone know how to install XMMS?
[01:02] <imperfect-> Anyone know if it's possible to force a intel board to activate it's onbaord video even if you have a PCI Express card in the system?
[01:02] <dooglus> needlez: run a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[01:03] <Kr0ntab> needlez, ITS INSTALLED BY DEFAULT...
[01:03] <Kr0ntab> OOPS
[01:03] <Kr0ntab> SORRY FOR SHOUTING
[01:03] <Kr0ntab> frick
[01:03] <dooglus> Kr0ntab: it isn't
[01:03] <Kr0ntab> yike
[01:03] <needlez> thanks :)
[01:03] <Sandma> afternoon all....newbie here...
[01:04] <Sandma> just got a cd of Ubuntu 5.10
[01:04] <Morg> If I want to make additions to the Apache config, what file should I add them to?
[01:05] <Kr0ntab> yeah i guess its not... I guess I just usually automatically install it
[01:05] <corerunner> welcome to the family
[01:06] <dooglus> Kr0ntab: did you try beep-media-player
[01:06] <dooglus> Kr0ntab: it's very similar, I think it's based on the xmms code
[01:06] <Kr0ntab> hmm.. haven't
[01:06] <rest> hi can i change the start-up screen ? changing logo or only console displayed ?
[01:06] <pnookster> hullo, I'm trying to get dhcp3 working on my laptop. my setup is like this: wlan0 dhcp to internet, eth0 connected to switch, desktop connected to switch
[01:06] <samuli> Sandma, good for you :)
[01:07] <Sandma> try this again...afternoon all
[01:07] <Sandma> its suppose to be Sanddman...but thats ok
[01:07] <pnookster> what should I set my interfaces file to for eth0, since it's static? like, for the gateway
[01:07] <samuli> hehe.
[01:07] <Sandma> newbie here...just got ubuntu 5.10
[01:07] <Abountu> to install java sdk on ubuntu, I downloaded the .bin installer from sun, and chmod +x and I'm going to sudo java_ee_sdk-5-linux.bin   .... is this the write way to do it? shouldn't I use apt-get or synaptic or similar stuff?
[01:07] <samuli> soop__, you installed it yey?
[01:07] <Sandma> but can not install either the live ver: or the install
[01:07] <dooglus> Sandma: you can type "/nick Sandman" to change it - but maybe someone already has that name
[01:07] <samuli> Sandma, how come?
[01:07] <Kr0ntab> dooglus, name sounds familiar.  checking it out...  is that what ya use?
[01:08] <dooglus> Sandma: the live version of 5.10 isn't installable.
[01:08] <dooglus> Kr0ntab: I generally use mplayer.  I don't need a gui to listen to music
[01:08] <Sandma> I know that,,but both give me the same error message...(crc)
[01:08] <Nullified> Heya guys, Anyone here used Easyubuntu?
[01:08] <samuli> hmm.. that's a problem with your cd then.
[01:08] <pnookster> picard for organizing music, rhythmbox for listening <3
[01:08] <Sandma> don't say that...
[01:08] <Kr0ntab> yeah it looks a lot like xmms...  prefs are a lot cleaner looking...
[01:09] <dooglus> Kr0ntab: I think it works with xmms skins
[01:09] <Sandma> I could not install Suse 9.2 or 10.0 either...
[01:09] <Kr0ntab> I use mpg123-oss or amp for console.. mplayer works fine too.
[01:09] <pnookster> eh, i have 28gigs of mp3s so I need something to organize playlists ;)
[01:09] <dooglus> Sandma: did you burn it yourself?
[01:09] <Sandma> do you know what    (crc) stands for
[01:09] <Sandma> no sent to me..
[01:10] <Nullified> !easyubuntu
[01:10] <pnookster> is your cd drive cable seated firmly with power?
[01:10] <imperfect-> rhymnbox is good
[01:10] <dooglus> Sandma: it stands for Cyclic Redundancy Check, but that's not important right now.
[01:10] <Sandma> yes
[01:10] <dooglus> Sandma: it's basically a checksum
[01:10] <Abountu> is it safe to instal java sdk as I said above?
[01:10] <kbrooks> Nullified: i'm a dev. what's up?
[01:10] <pnookster> rhythm box is good for just listening to stuff, but for organizing things picard is awesome
[01:10] <Sandma> but would it make a diff if I was using my dvd writer??
[01:10] <BlankMind> I want to modify grub's menu.lst but it's on "read-only" mode and i don't know how to take it off! :p
[01:10] <dooglus> Sandma: the physical CD was mailed to you?  or the .iso files?
[01:10] <byron> I am trying to install quake and the only way I can find to get it is a ".run" file, how do you get those to work or infact download them
[01:10] <anstei> BlankMind: edit it as root with "sudo"
[01:11] <Sandma> physical cd
[01:11] <BlankMind> how i make that anstei?
[01:11] <Sandma> both an install cd and a live cd
[01:11] <anstei> BlankMind: how do you edit the file?
[01:11] <megaman111> compile error:  Qt...configure: error: Qt (>=Qt 2.2.2) (headers and libraries) not found. ??? i installed the libqt3..but still not working??
[01:11] <BlankMind> i go in computer and find it (i would tell u the names but my ubuntu is in portuguese)
[01:12] <byron> anyone know how to get ".run" files working?
[01:12] <gymsmoke> if i add an entry to /etc/network/interfaces , do i need to run /etc/init.d/networking restart for that entry to take effect ?
[01:12] <dooglus> Sandma: I guess it could be a problem with your CD drive; I haven't tried booting from ubuntu disks for a long time now, so I forget how it goes.
[01:12] <anstei> BlankMind: what editor do you use? gedit?
[01:12] <pnookster> what should I set my eth0 interface to in /etc/network/interfaces if that's the nic other computers will be connecting to for dhcp?
[01:12] <Kr0ntab> dooglus, beep actually uses gnomes file manager calls... and font rendering is clean.  nice xmms replacement.  thanks mate.
[01:12] <Nullified> kbrooks, Ive asked easyubuntu to install the realplayher addition and its asking for where the file is located
[01:12] <Mez> please excuse me if I offend you tonight - I'm slightly drunk
[01:12] <dooglus> megaman111: you need the -dev version of the libraries.
[01:12] <BlankMind> anstei yes gedit
[01:12] <kbrooks> Nullified: uh?
[01:12] <Nullified> kbrooks, one second
[01:12] <kbrooks> Nullified: that's not EU
[01:12] <Sandma> well I'll try the cd drive bbl
[01:12] <dooglus> Kr0ntab: you're welcome.
[01:12] <kbrooks> Nullified: EU doesnt ask these type of questions
[01:13] <byron> I am trying to install quake and the only way I can find to get it is a ".run" file, how do you get those to work or infact download them
[01:13] <megaman111> dooglus: i did install that
[01:13] <byron> can someone help?
[01:13] <anstei> BlankMind: then go applications -> run program ( i think it's in system or something like that) and type "gksu gedit", enter your password and open the file from there
[01:13] <Abountu> is installing java sdk without apt-get safe to do?
[01:13] <kbrooks> byron: download as normal
[01:13] <Abountu> please anyone answer me!
[01:13] <kbrooks> Abountu: yes
[01:13] <byron> how do you download as normal?
[01:13] <bon_> i got a serisour problem with kde it restsrts back to the login when kde just starts i have gnome and it works fine http://pastebin.com/716079
[01:13] <Nullified> kbrooks, It says "Real Player has been downloaded to where" , and im not sure where its been downloaded to
[01:14] <kbrooks> Abountu: EU _DOES NOT_ do that
[01:14] <Sandma> thanks for that input...I changed to the cd drive, not its installing...bbl,,,thanks again
[01:14] <bon_> it say something about comsite manger
[01:14] <kbrooks> Abountu: show a screenshot
[01:14] <gymsmoke> if i add an entry to /etc/network/interfaces , do i need to run /etc/init.d/networking restart for that entry to take effect ?
[01:14] <pnookster> gymsmoke: you could just sudo ifdown [interface]
[01:14] <pnookster> then sudo ifup [interface]
[01:14] <Abountu> hbrooks: thx, what do you mean "EU  DOES NOT DO that"?
[01:14] <mfv> hello all.  can Ubuntu LiveCD be customized at all like Morphix?
[01:15] <jikbag> how much HD space does a basic GUI install take?
[01:15] <kbrooks> Abountu: oops
[01:15] <BlankMind> anstei it says i'm using the wrong password, but i'm using the admin password I have configurated! :p
[01:15] <bon_> this is my xorg.conf file http://pastebin.com/716100
[01:15] <gymsmoke> pnookster: thanks
[01:15] <kbrooks> Nullified:
[01:15] <Wikipedia-Gast60> nullified
[01:15] <anstei> BlankMind: try using the password for the user you are using currently
[01:15] <pnookster> jikbag: depends on if you're running blackbox, or fvmw, or fluxbox, or gnome..
[01:15] <Wikipedia-Gast60> currently
[01:15] <Wikipedia-Gast60> fluxbox
[01:15] <Nullified> kbrooks, You want to see a screenshot?
[01:15] <kbrooks> Abountu: show a screenshot of the realplayer screen
[01:15] <gymsmoke> pnookster: i think depending on how you configure your net, you could use an internal ip address for that card where other boxes connect
[01:15] <kbrooks> errr
[01:15] <Wikipedia-Gast60> realplayer
[01:15] <kbrooks> Nullified: show a screenshot of the realplayer screen
[01:15] <Wikipedia-Gast60> nullified
[01:16] <jikbag> how much HD space does a basic GUI (Gnome) install take?
[01:16] <pnookster> gymsmoke: *nod* the private network is subnet <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> - but do i need to set a gateway option for that nic?
[01:16] <Wikipedia-Gast60> insta
[01:16] <Wikipedia-Gast60> install
[01:16] <BlankMind> anstei, It has only a user (me), and it's asking root password, i'm typing the only password I have configurated and it does not work... know why?
[01:16] <kbrooks> Wikipedia-Gast60: STOP IT
[01:16] <bon_> i got a serisour problem with kde it restsrts back to the login when kde just starts i have gnome and it works fine http://pastebin.com/716079
[01:16] <gnomefreak> dont have to
[01:16] <pnookster> jikbag: I'm using a 6gb hard drive in my laptop, have room for about 3 gigs of user files.. i've got a toooon of junk on here though, need to clean it up
[01:16] <Abountu> hbrooks: I'm not doing anything related to realplayer
[01:16] <kbrooks> Wikipedia-Gast60: you are annoying
[01:16] <bluelotus> How do I take a screen shot with a drop-down box open?
[01:17] <kbrooks> Abountu: it was a typing error
[01:17] <anstei> BlankMind: uh, now. you can try to type "sudo gedit" in a terminal, that should work, too.
[01:17] <Abountu> kbrooks: no prob
[01:17] <jikbag> pnookster: thnx!
[01:17] <Nullified> kbrooks, Its http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~bullet
[01:17] <pnookster> bluelotus: use gimp's screenshot util with a delay, i suppose
[01:17] <bluelotus> Thankyou.
[01:17] <pnookster> im sure there are easier ways, but that's how I do it. eheh.
[01:17] <Nullified> pnookster, Press printscreen?
[01:17] <gymsmoke> pnookster: i think tou do need the gateway, yes
[01:18] <pnookster> what should I set it for?
[01:18] <BlankMind> anstei, yes it worked, thanks. Just a question, what is that "sudo"? what does it make?
[01:18] <pnookster> Nullified: I wasn't sure if that worked in nix or not! =)
[01:18] <bluelotus> pnookster: that worked perfectly. Thanks again.
[01:18] <pnookster> np.
[01:18] <anstei> BlankMind: it "does" something as a "su", which stands for superuser = root
[01:18] <bluelotus> Nullified: that works but it closes your dropdown box
[01:18] <anstei> BlankMind: so it executes the given command with root privileges
[01:19] <BlankMind> anstei hum... is that a mode to let it in eternal sudo mode? :p
[01:19] <ompaul> !sudo
[01:19] <ubotu> it has been said that sudo is a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:19] <snowfaked> blah, can't understand why firefox lags more in ubuntu than in windows
[01:20] <snowfaked> when switching tabs it's like click, laglaglag, tab opens
[01:20] <dooglus> anstei: "su" stands for "substitute user"
[01:20] <pnookster> On my desktop it's suuuuper faster
[01:20] <pnookster> but on my laptop ..
[01:20] <pnookster> well
[01:20] <pnookster> i've never had windows on my laptop
[01:20] <kbrooks> Nullified: well
[01:20] <snowfaked> some optimization i missed?
[01:20] <pnookster> :>
[01:20] <jikbag> snowfaked: what do you mean it lags?
[01:20] <BlankMind> k, thank you guys
[01:20] <jikbag> snowfaked: does it start slow or load pages slow or everything?
[01:20] <snowfaked> jikbag: like it takes second to switch between tabs
[01:20] <Nullified> kbrooks, Forgive me for i know NOTHING
[01:20] <pnookster> but everything runs slow on my laptop :< need to double the RAM.. 128mb is sad ;-;
[01:21] <gnomefreak> Nullified: you atleast knew where to come for help
[01:21] <[Spooky] > a friend of mine have locked his box for typing the wrong pass to many times... can he reset it or he have to re-install ubuntu ?
[01:21] <jikbag> snowfaked: did you install from apt-get or by hand?
[01:21] <ompaul> pnookster, install xfce it will be faster, not quite the same but you can leave gnome in place and run gnomes stuff only when you have to
[01:21] <RandolphCarter> [Spooky] : ctl+alt+backspace?
[01:21] <kbrooks> Nullified: we fixed that
[01:21] <snowfaked> jikbag: apt-get
[01:21] <pnookster> ompaul: yeah, i have it. I don't particularly like it. I use fluxbox :)
[01:21] <snowfaked> i think it should work with 1.7GHz p-m with 1GB without any lagging ;)
[01:21] <snowfaked> 1GB of ram
[01:22] <themaan> has anyone tried warcraft frozen throne on crossover and know if it works, the site says its not suported
[01:22] <gnomefreak> snowfaked: i think its more of ff than your system
[01:22] <jikbag> snowfaked: mebbe remove the apt-get version and install the latest from mozilla by hand
[01:22] <[Spooky] > RandolphCarter: like i said he cant login...
[01:22] <gnomefreak> snowfaked: the ubuntu version of ff is slower than mozillas version (by a little bit)
[01:22] <RandolphCarter> [Spooky] : he's at a GDM Login screen right?
[01:23] <jikbag> snowfaked: does everything lag a bit or just ff?
[01:23] <Nullified> kbrooks, I just need to get a new version of easy ubuntu?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> snowfaked: i would use the wiki to install it
[01:23] <snowfaked> gnomefreak: this is more than little bit, as it is already annoying. fees like using win2k on my older 1.3 celeron with 256MB of ram :)
[01:23] <gnomefreak> !ff
[01:23] <ubotu> gnomefreak: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:23] <moulty> gi
[01:23] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: are you using a laptop?
[01:23] <gnomefreak> snowfaked: yes i know
[01:23] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[01:23] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:23] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: yep
[01:23] <whiter> im using firefox on 733mhz
[01:23] <themaan> anyone know any good windows emulators that warcraft works well on and are easy to set up
[01:23] <moulty> hi*
[01:23] <whiter> and it works fast enough
[01:24] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: do you have 'noapic nolapic' in your grub config?
[01:24] <kbrooks> Nullified: get this. http://www.robotgeek.org/eu/easyubuntu-3.0.tar.gz extract & run ./launchEU.sh in easyubuntu directory
[01:24] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: nope
[01:24] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: I've seen so many laptops where that fixes lagging :)
[01:24] <Pinewheel> Hi. I have a problem while trying to log into Gnome, where I get a message that says my session has lasted under 10 seconds, and then it brings me back to the login scree.
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: do 'sudo vim /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[01:25] <Dr_Willis> themaan,  you mean World of Warcraft? or Warcraft 1/2/3/4?
[01:25] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: that doesn't affect any powersavingthingies?
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: nope
[01:25] <Nullified> kbrooks, Thanks
[01:25] <moulty> Q) I've just installed ubuntu onto a friends pc, he likes it but needs grub to boot to windows by default. how can this be done? thx
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: just bypasses some not standard APICs
[01:25] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: edit the file, search for 'kopt=' and add 'noapic nolapic' to the end of the line
[01:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell moulty about grub
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> moulty,  trivial.. edit the  grub config file and set the default= line to the right #
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> (it's the single commented line starting with kopt=)
[01:26] <gnosticapex> question: "Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission denied)" "unable to lock the list directory" -how do I fix this?
[01:26] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: can't i append them after the kernel line?
[01:26] <Pinewheel> Hi. I have a problem while trying to log into Gnome, where I get a message that says my session has lasted under 10 seconds, and then it brings me back to the login screen. Does anyone have any idea as to how I can fix this?
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> its amazing the amount of info in that grub config file.
[01:26] <gnomefreak> moulty: your pm also a really good place is help.ubuntu.com it has a section just for that in tips and tricks
[01:26] <megaman111> how can i find a folder .. like search ??
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: you can, but it'll be overwritten the next time apt installs a kernel
[01:26] <gymsmoke> besides adding the entries in /etc/network/interfaces, is there something else i need to get an additional ip address to be recognized ?
[01:26] <RandolphCarter> put it on kopt, then 'sudo update-grub'
[01:26] <gnomefreak> megaman111: gnome?
[01:26] <moulty> thx everyone
[01:26] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: ok, i'll just test it first and then add it to kopt
[01:26] <megaman111> ya
[01:27] <RandolphCarter> snowfaked: ahh, if you know how to do that, no point in me doing it step-by-step :P
[01:27] <gnomefreak> megaman111: places>seach for files
[01:27] <jikbag> megaman111: from bash type updatedb, then type locate <nameoffileyouarelookingfor>
[01:27] <gnomefreak> s/seach/search
[01:27] <mfv> thanks tonyyarusso
[01:27] <snowfaked> RandolphCarter: yep, no need. thanks  for the tip i'll try it right away
[01:27] <gnosticapex> question: "Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 permission denied)" "unable to lock the list directory" -how do I fix this?
[01:27] <Pinewheel> Hi. I have a problem while trying to log into Gnome, where I get a message that says my session has lasted under 10 seconds, and then it brings me back to the login screen. Does anyone have any idea as to how I can fix this?
[01:27] <megaman111> :))) been looking for a while ..din't catch it ...sorry and thanks :)
[01:27] <gnomefreak> gnosticapex: use sudo
[01:28] <themaan> anyone know any good windows emulators that warcraft 3 frozen throne works well on and are easy to set up
[01:28] <themaan> warcraft 3 frozen throne
[01:28] <gnomefreak> themaan: wine?
[01:28] <Pinewheel> themaan: Cedega?
[01:28] <gymsmoke> i added a new ip address in /etc/network/interfaces, and ran /etc/init.d/ifupdown restart, but the ip address doesn't show up in netstat -pant
[01:28] <themaan> which one simpler to set up
[01:28] <themaan> I tried wine
[01:28] <themaan> and screwed up real bad
[01:28] <gnomefreak> wine is free lol
[01:28] <gnomefreak> !wow
[01:28] <ubotu> To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[01:28] <Pinewheel> themaan: WineX?
[01:29] <gnomefreak> Pinewheel: winex is cedega
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> WineX became Cedega. :P
[01:29] <Pinewheel> Isn't WineX just Cedega from CVS?
[01:29] <themaan> is it free?
[01:29] <Kyral> yah
[01:29] <Kyral> to both
[01:29] <gnomefreak> themaan: no its not
[01:29] <gnomefreak> its 15 usd
[01:29] <gnomefreak> give or take a hundred ;)
[01:29] <Pinewheel> You can get WineX from CVS for free
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> World Of Warcraft can be a Real real real pain in the *$*##@ under Cedega as well.
[01:29] <Pinewheel> I have a problem while trying to log into Gnome, where I get a message that says my session has lasted under 10 seconds, and then it brings me back to the login screen. Does anyone have any idea as to how I can fix this?
[01:30] <ompaul> !wow
[01:30] <ubotu> To run WoW properly, Wine needs to be built from source https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorldofWarcraft and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingWineFromSource
[01:30] <themaan> how do you build wine from source
[01:30] <themaan> and how long does it take
[01:30] <gnomefreak> themaan: it tells you on one of those pages
[01:30] <ompaul> Pinewheel, do you know how to get into a terminal - without logging into Gnome?
[01:30] <samuli> awesometaylor, no they're not out yet.
[01:30] <gnomefreak> it would be the second one by the looks of it
[01:30] <gymsmoke> are the log entries for networking in syslog ?
[01:30] <themaan> hmm any opinions
[01:30] <samuli> awesometaylor, I tried to make my own dvd from iso
[01:30] <themaan> which one I should use
[01:30] <gnosticapex> when typing "sudo tee -a /etc/modules" i lose my command line and all my future commands just repeat a line below where I type em in, should I just restart? :o
[01:31] <Skwid_> wow
[01:31] <samuli> awesometaylor, but it didn't work :P
[01:31] <ompaul> Pinewheel, - asking you again - do you know how to get into a terminal - without logging into Gnome?
[01:31] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Alt+F1-F7?
[01:31] <ompaul> yeap
[01:31] <gnomefreak> themaan: i havent looked over that page in a while but should be fairly straight foward
[01:32] <themaan> so I shoudl use wine?
[01:32] <dooglus> Pinewheel: if you're looking at the gdm login screen you'll need to hold control and alt together when hitting F1-F6 I think
[01:32] <gymsmoke> i added a new ip address in /etc/network/interfaces, and ran /etc/init.d/ifupdown restart, but the ip address doesn't show up in netstat -pant
[01:32] <themaan> would it be possible to get a free server working on wine?
[01:32] <megaman111> is there a problem if i want to switch kde from gnome ??
[01:32] <gnomefreak> themaan: yes thats my opinion but im not that much of a gamer or wine person
[01:32] <ompaul> Pinewheel, okay, so log into one of those as yourself and delete this file:  .ICEauthority with the command >> sudo rm .ICEauthority<< log out return to gdm Alt-F7  and log in
[01:32] <themaan> I might be too lazy to mark up my account
[01:32] <Pinewheel> dooglus: I knw. Thanks, though
[01:32] <delmar> Im trying to get ubuntu to detect my scanner but im not having much luck. surely i should be able to see something listed in /proc/bus/usb/devices or something?  it's a Microtek 3800.  reading things online there is reference to a scanner kernel module but i dont seem to have it... whats the story with getting scanners to work on here anyone?
[01:32] <Pinewheel> Thanks ompaul
[01:33] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Could you explain to me why this happens?
[01:33] <ompaul> delmar, have you installed sane
[01:33] <delmar> ompaul, yep
[01:33] <delmar> ompaul, no scanners found etc.
[01:34] <delmar> ompaul, "no devices available"
[01:34] <ompaul> Pinewheel, depends - but mostly it is something silly like a bad close of Gnome in terms of shutdown
[01:34] <Pinewheel> Ah. That makes sense.
[01:34] <CokeNCode> hey guys, can anyone help me out here, i'm trying to get a gamepad installed
[01:34] <Pinewheel> I had Cedega running, which crashed and brought down X
[01:34] <CokeNCode> it connects to the joystick port
[01:34] <Pinewheel> *froze
[01:34] <CokeNCode> not usb
[01:34] <Pinewheel> Meh. Thanks.
[01:34] <ompaul> delmar, all the silly questions, has it power and is it plugged in etc
[01:34] <delmar> ompaul, yep. powerd.. and plugged in via usb etc.
[01:35] <delmar> ompaul, hey ill reset the power on it. sec
[01:35] <ompaul> delmar, with something like that I would be inclined to reboot both the box and it
[01:35] <ompaul> Pinewheel,  and ?
[01:35] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Nope, that didn't work
[01:36] <Pinewheel> I get the same error.
[01:36] <CokeNCode> would it help if i tried rebooting the pc ?
[01:36] <CokeNCode> :S
[01:36] <delmar> ompaul, what the hell. ill reboot :P
[01:36] <CokeNCode> ME TOO !!!  :D ... as long as everyone's doing it
[01:37] <ompaul> Pinewheel,  what do the permissions on that look like ?  -rw-------  1 username username 1815 2006-05-13 08:26 .ICEauthority
[01:37] <ompaul> where 08:26 was the last login
[01:37] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Sorry, I don't understand the question.
[01:37] <mag_> I have some problems with compiz, can you help me
[01:37] <mag_> hhey
[01:37] <dooglus> Pinewheel: paste the output of "ls -ld ~/.ICE*"
[01:37] <ompaul> Pinewheel, go back into another terminal and do ls -al
[01:38] <ompaul> Pinewheel, more like dooglus said
[01:38] <mag_> Help me !!!!!!!!!!!
[01:38] <ompaul> !helpme
[01:38] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we cannot actually help you. :)
[01:38] <hintswen> lol
[01:38] <Pinewheel> ompaul: No such file or directory.
[01:38] <dooglus> Pinewheel: that's not your problem then.  something else is wrong.
[01:38] <dibblego> how can I have a process started at boot time?
[01:38] <Satya> hi, I installed unbuntu on a free partition on my Hard disk; it landed me into a text-only command line mode after the installation completed. I tried startx, but it wont start the GUI; so I tried suo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop; that didnt work either;
[01:39] <dooglus> dibblego: I add a line to start it to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh personally
[01:39] <ompaul> Pinewheel, hmm, so first (kinda obvious one) did it ever work?
[01:39] <Pinewheel> Nope
[01:39] <Satya> says "couldnt stat source package list"
[01:39] <mag_> is it normal gconf-editor has only one line with the efects of compiz ?
[01:39] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Sorry, did you mean "has Gnome ever worked"?
[01:39] <ompaul> Pinewheel, I did
[01:40] <samuli> satya, can you get to your sources.list?
[01:40] <dibblego> dooglus: does that script run as a sudo user?
[01:40] <Satya> yes; I can get to any file
[01:40] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Yes. I was using it until I had to go into terminal and close a full screen application that froze X.
[01:40] <dooglus> dibblego: it does
[01:40] <dooglus> dibblego: it runs as root
[01:40] <dibblego> ok cheers
[01:40] <samuli> well, what does it say in the /etc/apt/sourcers.list?
[01:40] <samuli> paste it to pastebin.
[01:40] <delmar> ompaul, ok so thats all the basic stuff outta the way.. still no scanner detected
[01:40] <dooglus> dibblego: don't try to run any graphical stuff of course
[01:40] <Satya> Samuli, I didnt take a look; I will do that and get back; what do you want me to look for?
[01:41] <samuli> satya, just paste whole sources.list to pastebin.
[01:41] <dibblego> no, I just want to start an application server
[01:41] <ompaul> Pinewheel, okay have you restarted the box since it froze?
[01:41] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Yes.
[01:41] <dooglus> dibblego: it might be worth adding a whole new script into /etc/init.d/ and linking to it from /etc/rc2.d/
[01:42] <samuli> satya, or if you don't have one, we have to make one for you.
[01:42] <Satya> ok, I am logged thru Gaim from Windows Xp; can I get any text based IRC ?
[01:42] <dibblego> there are a bunch of scripts in /etc/init.d - is it just a matter of adding my own?
[01:42] <Arrick> bbib
[01:42] <dooglus> dibblego: that's the 'right' way to do it, but bootmisc.sh works too
[01:42] <samuli> Satya, try irssi.
[01:42] <Satya> Samuli, ok how do I get that : is there a simple command like apt-get
[01:42] <dooglus> dibblego: add a script in /etc/init.d and a link to it in /etc/rc<level>.d/ where <level> is the runlevel you want it to run at
[01:42] <dibblego> dooglus: do all scripts in /etc/rc2.d execute? do I have to reference them from somewhere?
[01:42] <samuli> satya, I think it should be installed.
[01:43] <Satya> okay I will try that and get back; thanks!!
[01:43] <dibblego> ok, so no fiddling with any other files?
[01:43] <dooglus> dibblego: all the ones with 'S' get started when runlevel 2 is entered, and all the ones with 'K' get stopped
[01:43] <dooglus> dibblego: type "runlevel" in a shell to check what level you run at.
[01:43] <dibblego> what's the number after the S/K?
[01:43] <dooglus> dibblego: I think it should be 2
[01:43] <dibblego> N 2
[01:44] <ompaul> Pinewheel, in a terminal  bonobo-slay -s and then try to log in again
[01:44] <dooglus> dibblego: that's just the order they're run in.  you might want to use a biggish number so it starts later than other stuff at the same level
[01:44] <dooglus> dibblego: 2, yes.
[01:44] <ompaul> Pinewheel, it is not fair, its 0:44 am and I have to think :)
[01:44] <dibblego> ok - importantly, where can I read about what you just told me?
[01:44] <Pinewheel> lol ompaul
[01:44] <yodaz> hi all
[01:44] <n1tr0us> my linux wont work
[01:44] <bluelotus> http://cybarc.is-a-geek.net/index.html  The right-nav div is in the bottem left hand corner, but it has float:right; clear:right;  I want it to be right next to the lines of center-fill, opposing hte left-nav.  any help?
[01:45] <bluelotus> http://cybarc.is-a-geek.net/includes/style.css
[01:45] <yodaz> I have problem to set up my HP PSC 1310 with dapper
[01:45] <ompaul> n1tr0us, (A) X is broken is lacking in detail and (B) be nice
[01:45] <yodaz> scanning works perfectly but printing don't
[01:45] <dooglus> dibblego: "man init"
[01:45] <bluelotus> oops
[01:45] <dibblego> man init
[01:45] <bluelotus> wrong channel
[01:45] <dibblego> oops, me too
[01:45] <dooglus> heh
[01:46] <yodaz> I have the following messages in cups error log : cupsdAuthorize: Local authentication certificate not found!
[01:46] <Pinewheel> ompaul: Nope
[01:46] <yodaz> and that in syslog : hpiod: ParDevice::nibble_read failed: Input/output error
[01:47] <dooglus> ompaul: surely there's a logfile somewhere which will tell you why GNOME's not staying up for Pinewheel?
[01:47] <Pinewheel> .xsession-errors?
[01:47] <dooglus> Pinewheel: I was thinking maybe /var/log/gdm/:0.log
[01:48] <dooglus> Pinewheel: is there anything interesting in there?
[01:48] <HunterZ> bye
[01:48] <miguel_> good night
[01:48] <miguel_> how are you ?
[01:48] <miguel_> I am a new user on ubuntu
[01:48] <Pinewheel> dooglus: I'm not sure if it's interesting or not :P
[01:48] <dooglus> Pinewheel: want to paste it somewhere?
[01:49] <b3nw> miguel_ woot :)
[01:49] <miguel_> yesterday a receive my pack
[01:49] <Pinewheel> dooglus: Sure
[01:49] <miguel_> and well this day I install on my computer
[01:49] <miguel_> good bye the private software
[01:49] <Pinewheel> I'm running a failsafe terminal.. how do you propose I do it?
[01:49] <miguel_> jejeje
[01:50] <dooglus> Pinewheel: I propose you get Seveas' pastebin script, as follows...  (please wait)
[01:50] <linux_galore> theres an oxymoron  fail & safe
[01:51] <linux_galore> up there with dry & water
[01:51] <dooglus> doh!  he's taken it off his site!  I'll upload my copy, just a sec.
[01:52] <dooglus> Pinewheel: do a "wget http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/pastebin", that will download the script.  then "chmod +x pastebin" and edit it - change 'Dooglus' to 'Pinewheel'
[01:53] <Pinewheel> Okay
[01:53] <dooglus> Pinewheel: then "cat <file-to-paste> | ./pastebin"
[01:53] <linux_galore> dooglus: oooh thats sooo easy
[01:53] <joedj> dibblego: https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/UbuntuBootupHowto
[01:54] <dibblego> excellent thanks
[01:55] <linux_galore> dooglus: need to add an installer to the script
[01:55] <dooglus> linux_galore: do you have an easier way of pasting stuff to the pastebin when you can't run X?
[01:55] <linux_galore> dooglus: not complaining about the script just all the geek help
[01:56] <linux_galore> chmod +x should be within the script
[01:56] <dooglus> linux_galore: um...  the script won't run if it's not executable
[01:56] <Pinewheel> dooglus: I'm very sorry about this, but could you tell me which line contains "Dooglus"?
[01:56] <dooglus> 69
[01:57] <linux_galore> dooglus: you can send the script a an executable
[01:57] <linux_galore> as*
[01:58] <linux_galore> dooglus: just make sure the script as an install stage built ine
[01:58] <dooglus> linux_galore: what are you talking about?
[01:58] <dooglus> linux_galore: I didn't send the script.  I uploaded it to a web site
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> chmod +x the web site. :P
[01:58] <linux_galore> dooglus: well all the help scripts Ive done (self extracting installable files mostly)
[01:59] <gnosticapex> Ah finally got my Xserver working ^^
[02:00] <linux_galore> Dr_Willis: when dealing with new users I always go, if you cant click on it forget it start again
[02:00] <Pinewheel> dooglus: Okay. Thanks anyway
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> linux_galore,  they updated the pcs at work.. and now 90% of us cant fill in our overtime hours now.
[02:00] <dooglus> linux_galore: his whole problem is that he can't get into X.  he can't click on anything.  do you understand?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> :P
[02:01] <linux_galore> dooglus: aah, Live CD time
[02:01] <dooglus> linux_galore: he can boot ubuntu, and log in to a VC, but GNOME isn't working.
[02:01] <dooglus> linux_galore: I don't see how a live cd will help.
[02:01] <Pinewheel> dooglus: The error message tells me to check .xsession-errors
[02:02] <RandolphCarter> Pinewheel: use a failsafe terminal session
[02:02] <dooglus> Pinewheel: paste that then I guess
[02:02] <linux_galore> dooglus: well for starters give you a working Xorg.conf file
[02:02] <Pinewheel> RandolphCarter: I am.
[02:05] <Pinewheel> any ideas?
[02:06] <RandolphCarter> Pinewheel: sorry, could you paste the .xsession-errors file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[02:06] <linux_galore> dooglus: did you try to get him to start a basic X session without gnome
[02:06] <RandolphCarter> ahh, it's there :)
[02:06] <linux_galore> ie no gdm
[02:07] <RandolphCarter> Pinewheel: could you cd to /tmp and run 'ls -l .' for me?
[02:07] <dooglus> linux_galore: no, I was trying to get him to try GNOME as a different user.
[02:07] <RandolphCarter> Pinewheel: and cd to /var/lib/gdm and run 'ls -l' (and paste the results to the board?)
[02:08] <linux_galore> dooglus: we dont even know if the problem is gnome yet
[02:08] <Pinewheel> okay. brb
[02:09] <Pinewheel> I get the same error with another user account
[02:09] <obuzus> hi
[02:10] <dooglus> ok
[02:10] <RandolphCarter> Pinewheel: could you paste those ls'? :)
[02:10] <Pinewheel> RandolphCarter: Sorry, could you repeat the commands please?
[02:11] <RandolphCarter> cd /tmp; ls -l; cd /var/lib/gdm; ls -l
[02:11] <dooglus> RandolphCarter: the .xsession-errors log says /etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
[02:11] <linux_galore> Pinewheel: type sudo xinit   use  ctrl alt backspace to kill the session if it works
[02:11] <dooglus> mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission denied
[02:11] <RandolphCarter> probably /tmp
[02:11] <RandolphCarter> could put its sockets in /var/lib/gdm though, so best to be safe
[02:11] <dooglus> RandolphCarter: I guess it's that mkdtemp failing that's the problem.  what runs that?
[02:11] <ompaul> RandolphCarter, he will need to   sudo ls /var/lib/gdm
[02:12] <RandolphCarter> ahh, forget the /var/lib/gdm then, that couldn't possibly be it
[02:12] <Pinewheel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13951
[02:12] <RandolphCarter> thanks
[02:14] <RandolphCarter> hmm, sorry Pinewheel: ls -la?
[02:14] <RandolphCarter> my fault :/
[02:14] <Pinewheel> np
[02:14] <Kadran> hi can i write to ntfs? or it's readonly??
[02:14] <Pinewheel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13952
[02:15] <linux_galore> Kadran: default is read only but if you use captive you can do write but its still beta
[02:15] <RandolphCarter> cheers
[02:15] <RandolphCarter> sudo chmod 777 /tmp
[02:15] <linux_galore> Kadran: http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[02:15] <Kadran> linux_galore: how can i install captive?
[02:15] <Pinewheel> RandolphCarter: done
[02:15] <RandolphCarter> then try logging in again in gnome
[02:15] <linux_galore> Kadran: ^^
[02:15] <Kadran> linux_galore: thanks alot
[02:15] <Pinewheel> okay
[02:16] <jrattner1> If I'm acccessing an IMAP account from an email client, do i want to "subscribe" to the inbox in order for everything to be syncronized?
[02:16] <gumpish> yep
[02:16] <pnookster> have any of you used this router guide (iptables, dns, ip masq)? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111972
[02:16] <jrattner1> yes?
[02:16] <gumpish> yep
[02:16] <Pinewheel> RandolphCarter: Thanks. It worked :D
[02:17] <RandolphCarter> Pinewheel: np's :) you need to run 'sudo chmod +t /tmp' too, then you should be set
[02:17] <Pinewheel> Thanks a lot for your help.
[02:18] <RandolphCarter> dw :) It'd be interesting to know how the permissions for /tmp got messed up, but it doesn't matter so much now
[02:19] <linux_galore> RandolphCarter: hmm some distro's I notice check the tmp stuff when they boot up to make sure its not going to break
[02:19] <RandolphCarter> might be an RFE in that
[02:19] <Mez> anyone play ut ?
[02:19] <pnookster> can someone help me troubleshoot ip masq?
[02:20] <linux_galore> pnookster: just use firestarter its got a IP masq section
[02:20] <dibblego> https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/UbuntuBootupHowto "sudo update-rc.d myscript start 51 S ." - if I want to back out of that, do I just remove the symlink in /etc/rcS.d ?
[02:21] <colin__> anyone know why I am having trouble using the update-manager to upgrade to dapper?
[02:21] <paradizelost> colin__: what error are you getting?!
[02:21] <paradizelost> are you following !upgrade
[02:21] <paradizelost> !upgrade
[02:21] <ubotu> upgrade is probably Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note command line: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the bleeding edge.
[02:21] <linux_galore> pnookster: firestarter is in the repositories
[02:21] <pnookster> alright
[02:21] <paradizelost> also, it may be more appropriate for #ubuntu+1
[02:21] <pnookster> thanks :B
[02:22] <themaan> does anyone know if ubuntu comes with these packages  XFree86-Mesa-libGL
[02:22] <themaan>  libstdc++
[02:22] <themaan>  libgcc
[02:22] <themaan>  XFree86-libs
[02:22] <themaan>  fontconfig
[02:22] <themaan>  expat
[02:22] <linux_galore> pnookster: no brainer firewall tool
[02:22] <themaan>  freetype
[02:22] <themaan>  zlib
[02:22] <paradizelost> !paste
[02:22] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[02:22] <pnookster> does it have a gui config tool? :D
[02:22] <dooglus> RandolphCarter: what's an RFE?
[02:22] <colin__> when i try to run update-manager nothing happens
[02:22] <linux_galore> pnookster: yep, its a bit like a zonealarm front end to iptables
[02:23] <pnookster> sweet!!
[02:23] <themaan> im trying to install my video card driveer and I want to make sure I got the right packages
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> paradizelost: How can I make update-manager use -d by default?  So I can just click the icon in the notification area.
[02:23] <RandolphCarter> dooglus: Request for Enhancement
[02:23] <pnookster> thanks a LOT. I was having issues with the ip masq script i found on the ubuntu forums xD
[02:23] <colin__> anybody have any answers?
[02:23] <linux_galore> pnookster: you just run it once it then creates a startup rules script then you dont have to run it again unless you want to edit anything
[02:24] <pnookster> very nice
[02:24] <dooglus> RandolphCarter: oh, I see.
[02:24] <pnookster> do I need to run it as root?
[02:24] <linux_galore> pnookster: if your a security nut you can have it running in the task bar 100% of the time but you dont have to
[02:24] <colin__> paradizelost, i follow the instructions but it never upgrades
[02:25] <linux_galore> pnookster: with sudo yes because its edits the system settings
[02:25] <dooglus> RandolphCarter: I once had breezy delete itself when I booted due to /tmp having a 'bind mount' in it.
[02:25] <pnookster> righto
[02:25] <dooglus> RandolphCarter: I think a little /tmp-sanity-checking would be a good thing.
[02:26] <RandolphCarter> dooglus: erk :/ that's a little crazy - yeah, probably best to assimilate it from another distro too
[02:26] <linux_galore> pnookster: basically if it edits anything thats a "system wide" option you need sudo
[02:26] <dooglus> RandolphCarter: I had the whole of / bound to a mountpoint /tmp/root
[02:26] <pnookster> hm
[02:26] <dooglus> when it booted, breezy cleared out /tmp, as it always does, including /tmp/root, my entire filesystem
[02:27] <pnookster> there any reason why the enable dhcp option is ghosted?
[02:27] <linux_galore> pnookster: because your running dhcp
[02:27] <green_earz> themaan: check out the link so you can find the module name for the video card. then apt-get install modconf and use it to install your video module  http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[02:27] <pnookster> Need to stop it before i run firestarter?
[02:28] <pnookster> (it wasn't working anyway >_>)
[02:28] <linux_galore> pnookster: no its a seperate service
[02:28] <pnookster> yeah, I know that. just thought since firestarter had a checkbox for it, it would help me configure that too
[02:28] <RandolphCarter> dooglus: man :/ that's a nasty malfunction
[02:28] <linux_galore> pnookster: usually I find thats ghosted if dhcp isnt in use
[02:28] <pnookster> ahhh
[02:28] <pnookster> maybe i stopped it earlier. hm
[02:29] <colin__> does anybody know why upgrade-manager might break?
[02:29] <colin__> update-manager
[02:29] <linux_galore> pnookster: theres actually a really good (with pics) online manual for firestarter
[02:30] <pnookster> sweet
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> with pics... :)
[02:30] <linux_galore> pnookster: http://www.fs-security.com/
[02:31] <linux_galore> well I find plain text manuals for graphical tools is dumb
[02:31] <gnomefreak> colin__: what do you me break?
[02:31] <colin__> it doesnt work, it will not load when run
[02:32] <gnomefreak> colin__: the update manager as in the one for breezy updates or the one to upgrade to dapper?
[02:32] <linux_galore> its strange how a few pictures in a howto makes a user feel more secure
[02:32] <colin__> well its the program isnt it
[02:32] <colin__> if i goto system update-manager
[02:33] <colin__> nothing happens
[02:33] <gnomefreak> colin__: ok lets try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:33] <colin__> and if i gksudo "update-manager -d"
[02:33] <hupp3l> hey guys
[02:33] <gnomefreak> colin__: can you type that in terminal and hit enter please
[02:33] <colin__> nothing happens
[02:33] <hupp3l> i did something very stupid and I need help
[02:33] <gnomefreak> colin__: those are different things
[02:33] <colin__> hmm
[02:34] <gnomefreak> update-manager -d without the " is to upgrade you to dapper
[02:34] <hupp3l> i deleted my grub loader without having my ntloader in the MBR
[02:34] <colin__> so if i type update-manager
[02:34] <linux_galore> hupp3l: nothing is stupid, we just make mistakes and thats normal
[02:34] <mag_> doesn't happened nothing when I typed sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:34] <colin__> tells me i need to be root
[02:34] <gnomefreak> colin__: the update manager is for updates for your current version
[02:34] <colin__> ok i would like to upgrade to dapper
[02:34] <gnomefreak> colin__: did you install ubuntu on that pc?
[02:34] <hupp3l> do you understand what I did? im pretty sure it is fixable
[02:35] <linux_galore> hupp3l: dont know yet
[02:35] <linux_galore> hupp3l: aah sorry missed that post
[02:35] <linux_galore> hupp3l: yep thats fixable
[02:35] <iratsu> how well does ubuntu run on the intel mac mini?
[02:35] <colin__> gnomefreak, before i was able to upgrade following the instructions on the wiki. It worked on my desktop
[02:35] <hupp3l> ah thanx
[02:35] <colin__> gnomefreak, its not working on my laptop
[02:36] <pnookster> hmmm
[02:36] <linux_galore> hupp3l: just need to recover the mbr, do you have a live boot cd
[02:36] <pnookster> firestarter's running, no errors
[02:36] <hupp3l> yeah
[02:36] <badin> Hi Linux convert here! Just installed Ubuntu Dapper Beta
[02:36] <gnomefreak> colin__: type in terminal sudo update-manager -d   and than enter your user password and tell me what happens?
[02:36] <linux_galore> hupp3l: let me get the howto for you
[02:36] <hupp3l> i have UBCD
[02:36] <BHSPitLappy> mazel tov
[02:36] <pnookster> i can ping my desktop from my laptop, and i can ping my laptop(with firestarter) from my desktop
[02:36] <hupp3l> would that maybe help even faster?
[02:36] <pnookster> but it's not forwarding anything
[02:36] <colin__> ok colin@digi:~$ sudo update-manager -d
[02:36] <colin__> colin@digi:~$
[02:37] <colin__> nothing happens after that
[02:37] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[02:37] <gnomefreak> colin__: sudo apt-get update
[02:37] <hupp3l> linux_galore I have the UBCD would what maybe help more?
[02:37] <gnomefreak> colin__: does that run?
[02:37] <linux_galore> hupp3l: really doesnt matter
[02:37] <colin__> no
[02:37] <linux_galore> hupp3l: the method is the same
[02:37] <gnomefreak> colin__: did you happen to enable root?
[02:37] <hupp3l> o ok
[02:38] <colin__> you know actually my brother di
[02:38] <colin__> d
[02:38] <gnomefreak> colin__: theres your issue
[02:38] <gnomefreak> colin__: type su than password
[02:38] <colin__> ok then how do i upgrade, from the root account
[02:38] <gnomefreak> do you get the #
[02:38] <colin__> i dont think that works
[02:38] <colin__> let me try again
[02:38] <gnomefreak> colin__: su enter than password sorry
[02:39] <Marsmensch> anyone knows a good anime channel
[02:39] <linux_galore> hupp3l: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-repair-corrupt-mbr-and-boot.html
[02:39] <hupp3l> thanx linux_galore
[02:40] <gnomefreak> colin__: did that work?
[02:40] <mag_> somebody can help me ? I cant' restart gdm ! help me !
[02:40] <gnomefreak> mag_: ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:40] <unen> ok guys, quick question. how do i move the bottom default (window and workspace control panel)?
[02:41] <gnomefreak> unen: the gnome task bar on bottom?
[02:41] <nullified> unen: Click and drag
[02:41] <mag_> Yes but when I come back again ubuntu showme a msg and said that the gdm had been restarted many times !
[02:41] <linux_galore> hupp3l: just read the "using knoppix" section the Ubuntu live CD and Knoppix are very similar
[02:41] <unen> gnomefreak: yeah
[02:41] <nullified> unen: I can moved mine around the screen by clicking and dragging
[02:41] <gnomefreak> left click it and drag afaik unen
[02:41] <mag_> gnomefreak and also I cant see the button shutdown in graphic session ! why ?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> for some reason i cant right now but was able to
[02:42] <unen> ... im screwed
[02:42] <unen> nothing happens when i click and drag
[02:42] <gnomefreak> mag_: im not sure
[02:42] <gnomefreak> mag_: restart the pc it should show back up
[02:42] <mag_> gnomefreack I cant do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:42] <gnomefreak> mag_: i think its the way you left gdm
[02:42] <nullified> unen: Right click it, Click properties, You can select where it goes in that panel
[02:42] <pookie> weeeeird. I ifup eth0 (private nic). Ifup wlan0 (external nic). run firestarter. configure it, blablabla.
[02:42] <nullified> unen: Its called "orientation"
[02:43] <pookie> can no longer connect to the internet on my laptop (running firestarter)
[02:43] <pookie> and while i can ping my private network, and my private network can ping my laptop...
[02:43] <colin__> gnomefreak, thanks
[02:43] <unen> nullified: lemme try it right quick
[02:43] <pookie> I can't get out of the private network.
[02:43] <gnomefreak> colin__: it worked?
[02:43] <colin__> yeah just had to be root
[02:43] <gnomefreak> colin__: my advice is to disable root again and add yours self back to sudoers list
[02:44] <Arrick> pookie, you need to open the router for intenet access probably, either that or your DNS info is borked
[02:44] <gnomefreak> but thats just my advice ;)
[02:44] <linux_galore> pookie: all firestarter does is set the rules, if it stop you have the wrong rules
[02:44] <gnomefreak> ok noght all
[02:44] <pookie> well
[02:44] <pookie> i have the firewall section of firestarter off
[02:44] <pookie> just used it to generate config files.
[02:44] <unen> nullified: wow, its screwed way the hell up... its not even reacting to that except when i tell it to go left/right then it just rotates itself
[02:44] <linux_galore> pookie: firestarter isnt a firewall just a front end
[02:45] <pookie> then why does it have a button that says "Start Firewall"...?
[02:45] <mag_> gnomefreak I'll install compiz and xgl on ubuntu, but I need make gdm restart and when I did that I doesn't happen nothing
[02:45] <nullified> unen: To be honest, I'm very noobey at this, I cant really assist you further.
[02:45] <unen> nullified: ok
[02:45] <dreambox> guyz ho can i configer my to work on cardserv
[02:45] <nullified> unen: gnomefreak might be able to help you...i assume by his name he likes gnome ...hehe
[02:45] <linux_galore> pookie: because iptables firewall rules can be flushed at any time
[02:45] <gnomefreak> mag_: join #ubuntu-xgl they should beable to help more
[02:45] <pookie> ah.
[02:45] <unen> nullified: yeah lol
[02:45] <gnomefreak> nullified: ?
[02:46] <linux_galore> pookie: all firestarter does is set the rules for the iptables firewall
[02:46] <unen> gnomefreak: hey uhh its completely borked... i change the orientation and all it will do is rotate
[02:46] <gnosticapex> What's the harddrive name in Ubuntu? >.>
[02:46] <pookie> Right. And I didn't set any rules - I just enabled connection sharing via eth0
[02:46] <dreambox> guyz ho can i configer my ubuntu to work on cardserv
[02:46] <nullified> gnomefreak: I was just saying to unen that hes having a problem in gnome, i know very little about linux he should look to someone more experianced, someone like yourself
[02:46] <mag_> gnomefreak : I'm in thath channel too but my problem is with the gdm !
[02:46] <gnomefreak> unen: im not sure off hand im sorry
[02:46] <unen> gnomefreak: ok
[02:47] <linux_galore> pookie: firestarter always sets a whole load of rules even if you define nothing is puts a whole heap of stuff in there to stop people hacking your system
[02:47] <tjb891_> if anyone know anything about soundcards but can anyone tell me which of of these is the best (i have integrated sound) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010360057+4024&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=57
[02:47] <pookie> Okay.
[02:47] <pookie> So.
[02:47] <gnomefreak> mag_: i think it has more to do with compix since it took over for xorg
[02:47] <MarkShark> Does anyone know why Debian has a kdb package, but Ubuntu doesn't?
[02:47] <pookie> Since I have outgoing connections set to 'permissive - blacklist blocking' with nothing on the blacklist
[02:47] <nullified> unen: I had a similar problem. I accidentally removed the gnome UI and then apt-get install gnome, Once i did that it sorted all my gnome problems..but that wiped gnome off completly and re-installed it
[02:48] <gnomefreak> mag_: iirc compiz is now used instead of xorg so i would check with them or in #ubuntu+1
[02:48] <pookie> theoretically I should be okay to ping from something connected to eth0 to something on the internet (wlan0)
[02:48] <unen> nullified: goddamit, alright i guess ill have to do that
[02:48] <linux_galore> pookie: dont forget firestarter is designed for people with little of no knowlege of firewall so it sets many rules that most users would have to spend a day just getting there head around
[02:48] <linux_galore> or*
[02:48] <gnomefreak> unen: language
[02:48] <cloudzhou> i hava just install dapper
[02:48] <pookie> How do I figure out if the problem in the connection is in firestarter or bind9 though?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> ok now i go to bed
[02:49] <gnomefreak> cloudzhou: #ubuntu+1
[02:49] <unen> nullified: where do i do that, delete gnome and once thats done whats the terminal command to reinstall it
[02:49] <linux_galore> pookie: good start is read the firestarter manual it has some clever stuff in there about services
[02:49] <dreambox> anyone help me in how to configer ubuntu to work on cardserv
[02:50] <linux_galore> pookie: the manual is not long or complex and as pics to show you how things are done
[02:50] <pookie> alrighty
[02:50] <nullified> unen: I removed it via synaptic, Once i did that you reboot the computer it takes you straight to the CLI no GUI or nothing, Just type apt-get install gnome
[02:51] <unen> thats it? apt-get install gnome
[02:51] <linux_galore> pookie: http://www.fs-security.com/
[02:51] <nullified> unen: Im not sure how i got gnome to start then I'll look for the command for you now.
[02:52] <Snow_Shelter> how do I mount a partition in a chroot?
[02:52] <Snow_Shelter> I have it mounted in the normal OS, but I can't figure out how to mount it in chroot
[02:53] <linux_galore> Snow_Shelter: real the knoppix section tells you how to mount a chroot http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-repair-corrupt-mbr-and-boot.html
[02:53] <linux_galore> read*
[02:53] <nullified> unen: /etc/init.d/gdm start : I belive thats the command to start the Gnome interfact once its been re-downloaded
[02:54] <nickrud> Snow_Shelter, just like you would without; make sure that dev is mounted inside the chroot first
[02:54] <unen> ok
[02:54] <unen> nullified: ok, thanks
[02:54] <nullified> unen: Best of luck to you mate
[02:54] <GTroy> hey in twin view....how do you switch the sides the monitors are on?
[02:54] <GTroy> editing xorg.conf?
[02:55] <GTroy> I followed sfink01 directions
[02:55] <GTroy> so the setup is different than xinerama
[02:56] <dreambox> no one help here??
[02:56] <GTroy> dreambox, everyone's gone!
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> GTroy,  i recall theres a order they are defined in. I think ya reverse them
[02:56] <dreambox> :(((
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> or was there a 'left of, and right of' definition/line. (or was that Syngery)
[02:57] <RyanTMulligan> I ran iwconfig, and it hung... now I cannot kill the process of it running... not even kill -s 9 pid any ideas?
[02:57] <GTroy> that's xinerama
[02:57] <GTroy> Dr_Willis, ok thanks
[02:57] <linux_galore> GTroy: yes and edit the Option	    "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf"  line the options are      RightOf     LeftOf     Above     Below     Clone
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Syngery uses that similer thing as well.
[02:57] <jack1> g
[02:57] <GTroy> how do I find out what the monitors names are
[02:57] <Tarantulafudge_> wassup guys
[02:57] <GTroy> I have 0 and 0 0
[02:58] <|Sivik|> GTroy: is that for a laptop?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> ive only cloned my displays
[02:58] <GTroy> no desktop
[02:58] <unen> nullified: ok well, i just fixed it, thank god
[02:58] <GTroy> with nvidia 6200
[02:58] <nullified> unen: How?
[02:58] <|Sivik|> GTroy: can you not just look at it to see what kind of monitor it is
[02:58] <unen> nullified: just told it align right and expand
[02:58] <GTroy> it's not written in the xorg.conf file that way
[02:58] <unen> nullified: once it expanded along the right alignment, told it bottom, then told it to unexpand
[02:59] <|Sivik|> GTroy: what does it say in the xorg.conf
[02:59] <nullified> unen: Intersting, I'll remember that, We could of stopped and started gnome aswell that might help
[02:59] <|Sivik|> GTroy: that may be the fact that it isn't reconized right by the kernel, why does it really matter
[02:59] <unen> nullified: thank the bejeezus lol that panel had me reaaaaaally worried
[02:59] <Tarantulafudge_> GTroy: try your xorg log file
[02:59] <GTroy> they're both seen
[02:59] <GTroy> I have to move the cursor to opposite ends to get across
[02:59] <|Sivik|> GTory: as long as it reconizes the video card right, it really doesn't matter about the bloody monitor
[03:00] <|Sivik|> GTroy: my monitor isn't reconized right but i don't care
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> move the monitors around. :P
[03:00] <GTroy> I don't want to blow it up!!!
[03:00] <nullified> unen: Brilliant, We learn new things every day, Linux wouldnt be fun if we knew everything!
[03:00] <GTroy> hahahahah
[03:00] <|Sivik|> GTroy: thats rather hrd to do
[03:00] <|Sivik|> hard*
[03:00] <linux_galore> GTroy: doesnt happen
[03:00] <|Sivik|> GTroy: linux_galore is right
[03:01] <linux_galore> GTroy: all monitors are multi now
[03:01] <GTroy> I'll use Dr.Willis' suggestion
[03:01] <GTroy> these are old monitors
[03:01] <|Sivik|> GTroy: how old?
[03:01] <GTroy> generic OLD ones
[03:01] <linux_galore> GTroy: have to be really old mines 1998 and has multi
[03:01] <GTroy> I boutght them at goodwill
[03:01] <|Sivik|> GTroy: most monitors since they were created for desktops have been multi
[03:01] <GTroy> ok
[03:01] <nullified> He stole them from an old school, They have RM network stickers on them
[03:02] <GTroy> well you solved my problems
[03:02] <|Sivik|> GTroy: yw
[03:02] <linux_galore> heh heh
[03:02] <unen> nullified: thats right, freeing ourselves from the binding chains of windows and corporate tyranny! lol
[03:02] <|Sivik|> GTroy: what kind of fps are you getting with that 6200 card
[03:02] <nullified> unen: hahaha, Exactly!
[03:02] <|Sivik|> glxgears -printfps
[03:02] <RandolphCarter> man, -printfps is much shorter than -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark, thanks Sivik
[03:03] <|Sivik|> RandolphCarter: thats what i just told him to do
[03:03] <nullified> bwahahahaha
[03:03] <RandolphCarter> yeah, I didn't know about it :) cheers
[03:03] <|Sivik|> RandolphCarter: ok
[03:03] <RandolphCarter> mmm, 9218 fps ^_^
[03:03] <|Sivik|> GTroy: what is your fps?
[03:03] <|Sivik|> RandolphCarter: what kind of card and how much ram do you have on it and in your system
[03:04] <bon_> i need to stop the default programs that i had load last time from loading becuas3 they ar3 crashing my comp any ida3
[03:04] <Tarantulafudge_> I wish ATI had drivers as good as nvidia
[03:04] <linux_galore> Im trying to remember when mutli sync monitors came out, must be mid 1980's
[03:04] <RandolphCarter> |Sivik|: Radeon X800, AMD64 x2 2800, 2gb RAM
[03:04] <RandolphCarter> s/2800/3800
[03:04] <pnookster> guh. sucks. every time I try to test it, it cuts my connection to the internet and thus my connection to irc -_-
[03:04] <|Sivik|> how much ram in the video card?
[03:04] <RandolphCarter> 256m
[03:04] <|Sivik|> why ati?
[03:04] <RandolphCarter> Sapphire X800 GTO^2
[03:04] <RandolphCarter> I was in germany and nobody had a ruddy NVidia card for sale
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> lol
[03:04] <|Sivik|> thats why you order it online
[03:05] <RandolphCarter> nobody in the UK would ship to germany :(
[03:05] <|Sivik|> you don't have to order just form UK
[03:05] <|Sivik|> there is the rest of the world
[03:05] <bon_> useless
[03:05] <|Sivik|> anyone would ship to germany for the right price
[03:05] <nullified> Ooooh I got 240FPS, Is that good for a knackered 2100+ CPU and 1GB of Dodgey ram, with a semi broken 8x AGP ATI 9800Pro?
[03:05] <Tarantulafudge_> Does anyone know if ubuntu installs proprietary drivers as an option now?
[03:05] <linux_galore> yeah I built a new work desktop (via the phone) and got a 7200 card in it, thing turns up and has 512mb of ram on the video card
[03:05] <liquidten2> Not even close to good FPS
[03:05] <liquidten2> <_<
[03:05] <bon_> simle fix?
[03:05] <bon_> yeah?
[03:05] <Snow_Shelter> nickrud: ?
[03:05] <|Sivik|> liquidten2: what kind of card and what are you fps?
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> Tarantulafudge_,  not that i have heard of..
[03:05] <linux_galore> sheesh who uses 512mb of ram in a game
[03:06] <Snow_Shelter> linux_galore: that didn't work. In fact, that failed miserably
[03:06] <liquidten2> Nvidia Geforce FX5200, pentium3 797mhz, 1300FPS
[03:06] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: on the video card
[03:06] <|Sivik|> 1300 FPS is good for an oler card
[03:06] <RandolphCarter> aye
[03:06] <hintswen> can someone tell me how to use gparted?
[03:06] <nullified> linux_galore: The new Ghost Recon 3, Needs a 512mb card if you want the option of running it on FULL GFX if you dont have one It wont run on full
[03:06] <slackern> nullified, i get around 8000fps with 2400+ 1gb ddr and 9800xt in dapper and fglrx
[03:06] <Snow_Shelter> liquidten2: oh god, that's the crummiest card nVidia ever made
[03:06] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: yeah its a cheap nvidia model, suprised to see it had so much ram on it
[03:06] <slackern> or i should say 3200+
[03:06] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: is that still agp?
[03:06] <nullified> slackern: Anything I can do to improve the performance
[03:07] <Snow_Shelter> |Sivik|: yes
[03:07] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: no pcie
[03:07] <slackern> !ati
[03:07] <ubotu> [ati]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[03:07] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: ok
[03:07] <Snow_Shelter> really?
[03:07] <Snow_Shelter> amazing
[03:07] <liquidten2> Snow_Shelter:  I know <_<.  I just bought it because i have a PCI slot and only had 80$ to spend, and it was the best PCI card i could get at the time.  (plus the only gaming i do is zsnes and epsxe)
[03:07] <|Sivik|> ati = crap
[03:07] <mag_> Hello ! I can't see the shutdow button "so you know why ?"
[03:07] <nullified> thanks mate
[03:07] <slackern> nullified, check that link out from ubotu
[03:07] <luke> anyone know how to install tinyhoneypot??
[03:07] <Snow_Shelter> I didn't know they put cards like that with PCI
[03:07] <Snow_Shelter> PCI, or PCIe?
[03:07] <liquidten2> PCI
[03:07] <|Sivik|> probably pci
[03:07] <liquidten2> crappy
[03:07] <Snow_Shelter> oh, ok
[03:07] <luke> sudo apt-get install tinyhoneypot worked, but now what?
[03:07] <|Sivik|> luke: google it
[03:08] <luke> |Sivik|, i tried. couldnt find anything
[03:08] <liquidten2> I upgraded from my Intel 810 onboard 10MB Vram
[03:08] <pnookster> yay, firestarter documentation includes no troubleshooting section. -_-
[03:08] <Meshezabeel> use the force luke
[03:08] <linux_galore> you can get a Quadra now with 1Gb on the card
[03:08] <|Sivik|> luke: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/admin/tinyhoneypot
[03:08] <Kyral> Meshezabeel: use the SOURCE Like :P
[03:08] <|Sivik|> luke: you can download it from here
[03:08] <mag_> somebody can help me ?
[03:08] <Meshezabeel> :)
[03:08] <needlez> does anyone here have a creative ZEN mp3 player? im trying to get mine to be accesible on my copmuter.
[03:08] <RandolphCarter> that's just a silly amount of video-ram :/
[03:08] <luke> |Sivik|, but sudo apt-get installed it already?
[03:08] <linux_galore> needlez: yes i have one
[03:08] <|Sivik|> needlez: i have been trying to do that for a long time
[03:08] <Jago> pnookster: software whose documentation has no troubleshooting section has no bugs
[03:08] <Jago> pnookster: -_-
[03:09] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: how does one get it to work?
[03:09] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i have a zen micro
[03:09] <needlez> linux_galore, all i want is to get my mp3's off of it and onto my harddrive.
[03:09] <hintswen> according to gparted my second hdd is -4099MB
[03:09] <|Sivik|> lol
[03:09] <|Sivik|> hintswen: thats funny
[03:09] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: wroks fine with gnomad2   just dont update the the release 2.0 firmware
[03:09] <needlez> i have a seperate charger, so im not worried abot that. i just need to get my music off of it
[03:09] <Meshezabeel> nah, a neuros ii is better than a zen
[03:09] <linux_galore> to the*
[03:09] <hintswen> anyone know how to fix? i tried to create disklable thing and it gave a error
[03:09] <needlez> gnomad2....where can i get that?
[03:09] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: ok, how do i go about installing it again
[03:10] <mag_> I can't see the shutdown button on graphic mode, do you know why ?
[03:10] <|Sivik|> !mp3
[03:10] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:10] <|Sivik|> !zen
[03:10] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, |Sivik|
[03:10] <|Sivik|> !creativezen
[03:10] <ubotu> |Sivik|: Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:10] <liquidten2> eh
[03:11] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: do i just need to install gnomad2?
[03:11] <needlez> linux_galore, do you know how to install the gnomad2? (huge newbie here)
[03:11] <|Sivik|> sudo apt-get install gnomad2
[03:11] <BHSPitLappy> is wireless relatively easy to set up in ubuntu?
[03:11] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: after i install gnomad2, how do i get it to pick up the nomad
[03:11] <|Sivik|> BHSPitLappy: what card?
[03:12] <needlez> Sivik, i got this message -- E: Couldn't find package gnomad
[03:12] <BHSPitLappy> it's something I think's called "airlink", don't remember
[03:12] <|Sivik|> needlez: then you don't have the right repos uncomminted in your sources.lst
[03:12] <|Sivik|> !repositories
[03:12] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:12] <BHSPitLappy> should be ndswrappable
[03:12] <BHSPitLappy> but I'm just wondering if there's a good utility for it in ubuntu
[03:12] <|Sivik|> BHSPitLappy: don't know about that card
[03:12] <|Sivik|> probably not
[03:12] <needlez> sivik...wow. you lost me. im a total newb
[03:13] <linux_galore> http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/
[03:13] <|Sivik|> needlez: follow the link that come up when i did the !repo thingy
[03:13] <|Sivik|> the Howto on adding repositories
[03:13] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: you need to add your user the the usb grup
[03:13] <linux_galore> group
[03:13] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i am my user
[03:13] <pnookster> is there an irc channel for firestarter help?
[03:14] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: yes just make sure your user is part of the "usb" group
[03:14] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i installed gnomad2 and then ran it and my zen micro is plugged in and it says "No jukeboxes found on USB bus"
[03:14] <nickrud> pnookster, what's your problem with firestarter?
[03:14] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: how do i do that?
[03:14] <pnookster> well
[03:14] <pnookster> I've got it, trying to forward wlan0 (public) to eth0 (private network)
[03:14] <liquidten2> Run it as root through sudo if you don't want to add yourself to usb group
[03:14] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: its in the user password editor section
[03:14] <nickrud> pnookster, oh, NAT.
[03:15] <|Sivik|> there is only one user on this computer
[03:15] <liquidten2> which technically isn't as secure, but really, what is the WORST that could happen.
[03:15] <pnookster> but when I ifup eth0, my laptop (which is what i'm trying to get working as a nat router) loses all connection to the internet
[03:15] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: theres a groups tab in there is a  group called usb
[03:15] <pnookster> i can ping my private network, private network can ping me
[03:15] <|Sivik|> in where?
[03:15] <pnookster> just can't ping anything connected to wlan0
[03:15] <nickrud> pnookster did your gateway get changed?
[03:15] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: what groups tab where?
[03:15] <hintswen> www.hintswen.com/Screenshot.png =D
[03:15] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: in the password section in the system menu
[03:16] <pnookster> what should it be for eth0? I'm not running dns
[03:16] <pnookster> eth0 is <IP_ADDRESS> netmas <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:16] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: don't have a password section in my system menu
[03:16] <nickrud> pnookster, I normally run from networking problems, ask anyone :)
[03:16] <liquidten2> |Sivik|: if you can't find it, you could always add your username to where it says "usb" in /etc/group
[03:16] <pnookster> heh.
[03:16] <|Sivik|> ok
[03:16] <pnookster> is there a better place for me to go for help?
[03:16] <pnookster> documentation either doesnt have the answer, or you need a doctorate degree and a nobel prize to understand
[03:17] <|Sivik|> liquidten2: there isn't a place in my /etc/group file that says usb
[03:17] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: im on e17 so I dont use the standard ubuntu setup
[03:17] <ohzie> Can I change the methods of sound output for either rhythmbox or firefox's flash plugin?
[03:17] <|Sivik|> you got e17 installed and working
[03:17] <liquidten2> |Sivik|:  hmm... That means there is no USB group
[03:17] <ohzie> linux_galore: What is el7 Just curious?
[03:17] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: yes
[03:17] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i'm jealous
[03:17] <linux_galore> ohzie: enlightenment, very geeky desktop
[03:17] <ohzie> Oh enlightenment.
[03:18] <ohzie> I've heard it's nice.
[03:18] <ohzie> Is it?
[03:18] <pnookster> I prefer fluxbox :>
[03:18] <thefitz> no window manager is geekier
[03:18] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: its great
[03:18] <linux_galore> ohzie: yeah, bit overwhelming at first but its gets addictive
[03:18] <ohzie> linux_galore: Overwhelming howso?
[03:18] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i just can't ever get it install correctly and have the menu to work
[03:18] <liquidten2> I haven't used enlightenment in a VERY long time.  I thought it was too heavy and too buggy.  Oddly enough, i jumped to GNOME 1.4 >_>
[03:18] <ericz> is there any reccommended window manager for dual monitors?
[03:18] <billynsgr> Ubuntu rules ;)
[03:18] <|Sivik|> liquidten2: how do i create the usb in the group thing?
[03:18] <linux_galore> ohzie: it has more eye candy options that kde/gnome and all the other desktops added together
[03:19] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: is there an easy way to install and configure e17 in ubuntu?
[03:19] <billynsgr> my laptop cd had stopped working - found it partially ejected - just a hardware problem.
[03:19] <ohzie> linux_galore: I was about to ask that same question, the |Sivik| asked.
[03:19] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: I did it from cvs so Im the last person to ask about "easy"
[03:19] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: ok, how do i add my user to the usb users area in the /etc/group file
[03:19] <NoUse> ohzie check /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[03:20] <liquidten2> |Sivik|: Just add it to the /etc/group file like "usb::103:username" , but it won't matter if your program doesn't look at a file owned by the USB group.  I would just run gnomad2 as root.
[03:20] <needlez> hey Sivik, i got gnomad2 to work, but now i have this message "Could not open jukebox:
[03:20] <needlez> usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted"
[03:20] <|Sivik|> do i just add it to that file
[03:20] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: just add your username on the usb line
[03:20] <|Sivik|> needlez: i have the same problem
[03:20] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i don't have a usb line
[03:20] <needlez> damn. lol
[03:20] <rob_p> pnookster:  Here's a simple NAT how-to for Ubuntu:  http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/3/1/  Follow the steps and you should be up and running in no time.
[03:20] <pnookster> sweet.
[03:20] <|Sivik|> i'm already running my gnomad2 as root
[03:20] <pnookster> thx!
[03:20] <needlez> linux_galore, do you know what this means? "Could not open jukebox:
[03:20] <needlez> usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted"?
[03:21] <rob_p> pnookster:  welcome
[03:21] <pnookster> Oh.
[03:21] <pnookster> I tried that.
[03:21] <pnookster> the ip masq script didnt work.
[03:21] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: usb:x:43:ups,logan1 is what on mine
[03:21] <|Sivik|> ok
[03:21] <pnookster> as in, it dumped a lot of iptables errors at me.
[03:21] <greedence> hi folks
[03:21] <|Sivik|> can i just add it to that file if its not there
[03:21] <dudemanbro> so i was trying to install gputils, a PIC programming software, and I got this message while running a configure executable: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, any ideas?
[03:21] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: logan1 being my user
[03:21] <|Sivik|> and what is the ups thingy?
[03:21] <rob_p> pnookster:  Then your network settings are not configured properly.
[03:22] <pnookster> Alright. How to I trouble shoot them?
[03:22] <funkyHat> |Sivik|, yes, but use vigr rather than just opening the group file
[03:22] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: thats for my UPS usb backup monitor
[03:22] <|Sivik|> ok
[03:22] <|Sivik|> funkyHat: why vigr not just vi?
[03:22] <WillyTell> hello everyone
[03:22] <liquidten2> |Sivik|: that's not going to work i don't think.  Root has access to everything, and if it does not work as root, it will not work as a user in the USB group
[03:22] <funkyHat> vigr will make sure you haven't messed up
[03:22] <needlez> Sivik, if you figure it out, can you help me out?
[03:22] <WillyTell> cafuego, hello how are you?
[03:22] <dudemanbro> anyone?
[03:23] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: just run gnomad2 as root
[03:23] <linux_galore> sudo gnomad2
[03:23] <|Sivik|> i'm already in root
[03:23] <|Sivik|> i did the sudo su
[03:23] <Doomhammer> guys, what's a good command-line equivalent to BUM (boot up manager)
[03:23] <Doomhammer> ?
[03:23] <|Sivik|> and then ran the gnomad2
[03:23] <Meshezabeel> anyway to get ubuntu to recognize serial mouse on livecd?
[03:23] <|Sivik|> i hate having to type sudo all the bloody time
[03:23] <linux_galore> if that doesnt work it means you have updated the firmware to version 2.0
[03:23] <rob_p> pnookster:  The site leads you through the steps of configuring your network before even trying to establish a NAT policy.  Read through it again and you should be able to make it work.
[03:23] <greedence> hmmm one question (absolut noob): I wanted to install skype on my Ubuntu and i downloaded the *.deb file....When executed then the program says thtat the archive is not supported...
[03:23] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i have no clue what my firmware is
[03:23] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: for the mp3 player
[03:23] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: can i downgrade it?
[03:24] <Tarantulafudge_> how do I delete family members with ubuntu?
[03:24] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: look in the information menu in the player
[03:24] <Doomhammer> guys, what's a good command-line equivalent to BUM (boot up manager) ?
[03:24] <pnookster> it doesn't help with the interfaces file, which I sort of guessed at. based on what i know about the interfaces file.
[03:24] <|Sivik|> Version: 2.20.05
[03:24] <dudemanbro> so i was trying to install gputils, a PIC programming software, and I got this message while running a configure executable: configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, any ideas?
[03:24] <pnookster> and, the private network works. the public network works. just not at the same time.
[03:24] <Tarantulafudge_> I can't find my /etc/famtab
[03:24] <needlez> mine is version 1.11.01
[03:24] <Meshezabeel> greedence try easyubuntu for installing skype
[03:24] <WillyTell> cafuego, are you reading???
[03:24] <needlez> how come it still cant find mine?
[03:24] <NoUse> Tarantulafudge_ email a hitman
[03:24] <liquidten2> |Sivik|:  That's very bad, it won't work in linux as far as i know
[03:24] <|Sivik|> dudemanbro: you need to install gcc
[03:25] <|Sivik|> liquidten2: how do i downgrade the firmware
[03:25] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: you cant its a one way trip, once you update to ver 2.0 you can only use it with windows because you have the MTP protocol set as the default (MTP = microsoft transfer protocol)
[03:25] <dudemanbro> |Sivik|, I did
[03:25] <rob_p> pnookster:  Mind pasting your /etc/network/interfaces file to the pastebin?
[03:25] <Tarantulafudge_> NoUse, is famtab hidden in my filesystem somewhere else?
[03:25] <pnookster> sure
[03:25] <dudemanbro> |Sivik|, I used synaptic
[03:25] <greedence> thx
[03:25] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: that blows
[03:25] <needlez> linux_galore, my Zen micro is still at version 1.11.01 and my gnomad2 isnt finding it....any ideas?
[03:25] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i can't believe that you really can't downgrade the firmware
[03:26] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: if you read the gnomad2 site it warns you not to update to the XP version of the firmware stick to the win98 version
[03:26] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: normally with h/w, you can always downgrade the firmware
[03:26] <NoUse> Tarantulafudge_ I thought you were joking, what are you trying to do?
[03:26] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: there is bound to be some way to downgrade it
[03:26] <needlez> Sivik, im sure there is way to do it, you may lose all your mp3's but, im sure there is a way
[03:26] <Tarantulafudge_> NoUse: delete a family member, lol
[03:26] <WillyTell> I installed VMware server, can someone help me?
[03:26] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: yeah send it back lol
[03:26] <NoUse> Tarantulafudge_ haha
[03:26] <ohzie> Is there a way to run nautilus without it running the nautilus desktop??
[03:26] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: lol
[03:26] <___gn0m3___> EJ FINNERIN SMELLS LIKE A MOOSE
[03:26] <RandolphCarter> ohzie: yes, nautilus --no-desktop
[03:26] <ohzie> Thanks.
[03:26] <RandolphCarter> ohzie: surprisingly semantically transparent :)
[03:27] <RandolphCarter> np's
[03:27] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: always try installing the win98 firmware again see if it works
[03:27] <needlez> linux_galore, can you help me out?
[03:27] <basti> Where to get that theme:
[03:27] <altprsona> hi all, i have 5.1 installed, i added kde and am using kde, my screen savers are bugged. only goes to black screen. iv check the power settings... any ideas how to make em work?
[03:27] <basti> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Dapper?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=update-manager-1.png
[03:27] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: thats what i was going to try
[03:27] <pnookster> http://pastebin.com/716260
[03:27] <linux_galore> needlez: run gnomad2 as root
[03:28] <dudemanbro> does anyone know why im getting this error message when trying to install a program:  configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables, any ideas?
[03:28] <liquidten2> dudemanbro:  check your cflags
[03:28] <nullified> Heya guys, Just a quick question whats the command to list all HDD's currently plugged into the machine.
[03:28] <liquidten2> dudemanbro:  "echo $CFLAGS"
[03:28] <nickrud> !d-e
[03:28] <ubotu> nickrud: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:28] <linux_galore> needlez: type sudo gnomad2
[03:28] <nickrud> dudemanbro, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:28] <needlez> ok did that.
[03:28] <WillyTell> I have created a virtual machine for windows xp within vmware server, in order to runs it under linux. But doesn't work. help..?!
[03:29] <dudemanbro> liquidten2, it came up blank
[03:29] <|Sivik|> nickrud: thats what i was trying to tel him about
[03:29] <|Sivik|> nickrud: working on way too much stuff at once
[03:29] <linux_galore> needlez: make sure the zen is plugged in and working
[03:29] <needlez> :O it worked!!!!
[03:29] <pnookster> rob_p: http://pastebin.com/716260
[03:29] <|Sivik|> needlez: lucky
[03:29] <needlez> thanks :)
[03:29] <basti> no idea?
[03:29] <nickrud> |Sivik|, I just stepped back in. And, I try to never go above 2
[03:29] <dudemanbro> nickrud, what is this doing?
[03:29] <WillyTell> someone use vmware here?
[03:30] <nullified> Heya guys, Just a quick question whats the command to list all HDD's currently plugged into the machine?
[03:30] <needlez> this is going to take awhile....2467 songs transfer...
[03:30] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: press the menu button  goto information  should show firmware version
[03:30] <liquidten2> duemanbro:  ok then...  Every time i get that error it is because i am running with "-fno-SUPERoptimization-that-doesnt-exist"   Try running the command "cc" from the terminal and see what happens.  If nothing, run "gcc" from the terminal.  If nothing agian, run "apt-get install build-essential" or whatever it is.
[03:30] <dudemanbro> nickrud, wow, it worked, thanks man
[03:30] <nickrud> dudemanbro, it's installing gcc, make, dpkg-dev, the essential things to build software
[03:30] <dudemanbro> nickrud, thanks
[03:30] <rob_p> pnookster:  Ok
[03:31] <nickrud> dudemanbro, synaptic has descriptions of all the packages, very useful
[03:31] <linux_galore> needlz_: you can buld transfers,  just put all the song you want in a single directory, goto the directory in the left hand menu, then highlight the whole lot (shift down key) and transfer in one chunk
[03:31] <linux_galore> buk*
[03:31] <linux_galore> bulk*
[03:31] <linux_galore> grr
[03:31] <twysted> is there anyway in ubuntu/debian to black list a program so it is never installed via apt?
[03:31] <needlez> NOOO!!!!!
[03:31] <rob_p> pnookster:  Now, it looks like your external interface is your wireless interface.  Correct?
[03:32] <pnookster> yes
[03:32] <needlez> i accidentally closed it, and now im getting a connection timed out error
[03:32] <linux_galore> needlez: easy fix just unplug the zen wait 10 seconds plug it in again
[03:32] <|Sivik|> i already have my music off of the zen on this destop
[03:32] <nullified> Heya guys, Just a quick question whats the command to list all HDD's currently plugged into the machine?
[03:33] <|Sivik|> fd -l
[03:33] <|Sivik|> fdisk -l*
[03:33] <liquidten2> nickrud:  It's been so long since i've used ubuntu that i forgot it doesn't come with GCC. <_<
[03:33] <|Sivik|> nullified: its fdisk -l
[03:33] <|Sivik|> -l (lowercase L)
[03:33] <nickrud> heh
[03:33] <liquidten2> nullified:  YOu could just do fdisk -l, or df -h, or cat /proc/mounts or....
[03:33] <needlez> :D thank again!
[03:33] <nullified> thats it, thanks guys
[03:33] <|Sivik|> liquidten2: that doesn't work if it isn't mounted
[03:33] <linux_galore> needlez: zen auto resets the USB connection when you unplug it
[03:34] <delmar> Ok so I just installed Thunderbird on my ubuntu system, pointed it to an imap server which is running exchange2k3...When I click on a message i get a completly different message in the preview window below it.   its like Thunderbird is requesting the wrong email when I click on it..... Email is displaying correctly for that email account if I use evolution and exchange protocol, outlook on windows, or outlook webmail.. but thunderbi
[03:34] <delmar> rd gets it all wrong.. any ideas?
[03:34] <needlez> now it is saying "error jukebox busy"
[03:34] <nickrud> delmar, is this the ubuntu thunderbird?
[03:34] <needlez> oh. nevermind.
[03:34] <delmar> nickrud, yep
[03:35] <linux_galore> needlez: kill the client start it again when you unplug it
[03:35] <delmar> nickrud, mozilla-thunderbird
[03:35] <delmar> nickrud, from the ubuntu package list etc
[03:35] <nickrud> delmar, there may be a bug filed about that, but I'd simply install the newer one.
[03:35] <delmar> nickrud, non-ubuntu one?
[03:36] <pnookster> rob_p: is my interfaces file a-ok then?
[03:36] <WillyTell> I have created a virtual machine for windows xp (using vmware server) but when it runs try to boot from the network... any idea?
[03:36] <nickrud> delmar, I sometimes troubleshoot with a big stick.
[03:36] <rob_p> pnookster:  Because you have both interfaces active, until your external interface is associated AND has been given IP and gateway settings, your machine has no default route.  This is what makes it difficult to configure NAT on an interface that is dynamically assigned it's settings.
[03:37] <pnookster> Ok.
[03:37] <altprsona> i have 5.1 installed, w/ kde added.  Screensavers bugged. only goes to black screen. checked the power settings... any ideas how to make em work?
[03:37] <twysted> WillyTell> mount the cd for xp, email vmware support if that doesnt work
[03:37] <pnookster> but my external interface is up and has an ip and gateway.
[03:37] <delmar> nickrud, i have a feeling that it's not talking the right kind of IMAP... i notice there is nowhere to tell Thunderbird what kind of IMAP it's talking to... and I know there are variations of the IMAP protocol between mail server products.
[03:37] <pnookster> I'm using that interface to connect to irc right now.
[03:37] <nickrud> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion <-- delmar I'd give that a go
[03:37] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i am able to downgrade the firmware
[03:37] <delmar> nickrud, dude.. i have a big stick right here for that reason :P
[03:37] <slfd2525> does anybody know of a good graphic equalizer program?
[03:37] <delmar> nickrud, mint. ill see about that
[03:37] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: thats cool, might need a win98 machine though
[03:37] <pnookster> once I pull up eth0, though, I lose access to the internet.
[03:38] <|Sivik|> now, its working in xp to do it
[03:38] <sol_> hello room
[03:38] <|Sivik|> its just taking a minute to work
[03:38] <pnookster> slfd2525: the only one i know of is xmms-infinity i think it's called
[03:39] <sol_> anyone know what the default mysql password is ubuntu
[03:39] <slfd2525> ok, in the package manager?
[03:39] <steve_> cdrom burn in data to allow further additions
[03:39] <WillyTell> twysted, ok... I'll try to follow your advice. Thanks!
[03:39] <rob_p> pnookster:  I'm guessing that the system is confusing it's gateway when that interface comes up.
[03:39] <steve_> how to?
[03:39] <twysted> is there anyway in ubuntu/debian to black list a program so it is never installed via apt?
[03:39] <twysted> np sir
[03:39] <sol_> root? anyone know what the default mysql password is ubuntu
[03:39] <twysted> sol_> its blank
[03:39] <pnookster> rob_p: okay. so what should I set the gateway to for eth0?
[03:39] <sol_> no pass or login?
[03:40] <twysted> sol_ jus put root for the username and no password
[03:40] <sol_> i tried that
[03:40] <sol_> maybe i forgot my shiat when i installed
[03:40] <twysted> sol_ you may have set a password then, google 'mysqld reset password'
[03:40] <sol_> thx
[03:41] <steve_> sorry to intrude but can anyone tell how to cdrom burn in data to allow further additions
[03:41] <rob_p> pnookster:  eth0 should NOT have a default gateway listed.  You want your system to use your wireless interface (or at least an IP that is accessible from it) for it's default.
[03:41] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: just noticed the "new" version of gnomad has MTP now
[03:41] <pnookster> Right.
[03:41] <pnookster> so I should take that line out.
[03:41] <|Sivik|> then why didn't it work when i plugged it in
[03:41] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: what version of gnomad2 do you have
[03:41] <|Sivik|> the one i just installed via apt-get
[03:41] <sol_> its giving me this error   #2002 - The server is not responding (or the local MySQL server's socket is not correctly configured)
[03:41] <|Sivik|> let me look
[03:41] <rob_p> pnookster:  Maybe I missed it but did you have a gateway listed?
[03:41] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: and did you try sudo gnomad2
[03:41] <pnookster> Yeah.
[03:41] <|Sivik|> i was already in root
[03:42] <|Sivik|> i hate doing the darn sudo all the bloody time
[03:42] <rob_p> brb...
[03:42] <twysted> sol_ make sure mysql is running =p properly i may add
[03:42] <sol_> i hate bein noot
[03:42] <pnookster> sweet. brought eth0 up, and internet's still working. now to get it to nat properly.
[03:42] <sol_> noob   and how do i do that lol
[03:42] <sol_> i just installed it should i restart
[03:42] <steve_> How do I cdrom burn in data to allow further additions???
[03:42] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: you need ver 2.8.3 for MTP
[03:43] <grout58> can I connect to my router using wifi encrypted in wpa in ubuntu?
[03:43] <|Sivik|> well, its too late now
[03:43] <steve_> noob here ya know
[03:43] <|Sivik|> grout58: if you have the wpasuppliment installed in ubuntu
[03:43] <|Sivik|> to be able to use wpa
[03:43] <rob_p> pnookster:  I gotta take care of something for a few minutes.  I'll give a shout when I return...
[03:43] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: Im running 2.8.0 because I had issues with 2.8.3
[03:43] <nickrud> steve_, the drag & drop cd burner in the filemanager doesn't support multisession
[03:43] <|Sivik|> ok
[03:44] <pnookster> alright. thanks so much for your help.
[03:44] <sol_> how do i start mysql in ubunto
[03:44] <pnookster> i'll keep budging around with it
[03:44] <steve_> thanksx alot now I know
[03:44] <grout58> ok thanks
[03:44] <steve_> saved me a lot of time
[03:44] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: how do i tell what version i'm running
[03:44] <pnookster> sweet! I can ping out from that computer.
[03:44] <pnookster> Now to get bind9 working right.
[03:44] <pnookster> >_>
[03:44] <|Sivik|> its 2.8.1
[03:45] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: when you start gnomad2 it tells you in the top of the window  gnomad2 2.8.0
[03:45] <|Sivik|> i think it just worked
[03:45] <|Sivik|> yes, i have 2.8.1
[03:45] <disturbed> Ok Intellectually filled people, I need some.. MAJOR.. attention... and MAJOR... help...
[03:45] <|Sivik|> disturbed: what is it?
[03:46] <nickrud> pnookster, if it's only for your local network, you might like dnsmasq
[03:46] <|Sivik|> got it
[03:46] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: i'm in
[03:46] <pnookster> hmm... i'll look into i
[03:46] <liquidten2> disturbed:  I'm INTELLECTUALLY FILLED!
[03:46] <disturbed> |sivik| Ok.. I have TWO.. Ubuntu drives... The other one, is my main drive, it worked GREAT... until I tried to play Wolfenstein, and had to install the nVidia driver, and I followed the instructions.. apparently a bad idea..
[03:46] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: well thats two people Im on a roll lol
[03:46] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: thanks
[03:46] <|Sivik|> !nvidia
[03:46] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:47] <disturbed> |sivik| as I rebooted to hopefully be able to "play" wolfenstein enemy territory... I was dumbfounded, when I came across the "xserver" error...
[03:47] <|Sivik|> disturbed: did you follow that howto in order to do that
[03:47] <|Sivik|> what nvidia card?
[03:47] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: 2.8.3 I found has some broken buttons
[03:47] <|Sivik|> ok
[03:47] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: well, i'm in with 1.11 firmware and 2.8.1
[03:47] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: yeah same as me pretty much, rock solid
[03:47] <|Sivik|> and ti works
[03:47] <disturbed> |sivik| I didn't miss a step, but now my "startx" won't work.. because it wont put the display manager.. it has an error, DUE to, I edited the xorg Config file, as I was instructed to do.
[03:48] <|Sivik|> disturbed: what did you follow to get the nvidia to work and what card is it
[03:48] <liquidten2> disturbed:  What is your error, and post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf somewhere.  Like the pastebin.
[03:48] <|Sivik|> disturbed: i used the howto i just showed you the url
[03:48] <|Sivik|> disturbed: and mine works
[03:48] <ubuntu> Hi
[03:48] <|Sivik|> disturbed: what card?
[03:49] <disturbed> |sivik| I don't recall the exact website I followed... it was a Forum somewhere.
[03:49] <|Sivik|> !tell disturbed about nvidia
[03:49] <linux_galore> goto be careful with the nvidia stuff if you have an older card and use the new driver it tanks
[03:49] <liquidten2> disturbed:  what is the error and what does /etc/X11/xorg.conf look like
[03:49] <|Sivik|> follow the howto i just sent you
[03:49] <disturbed> |sivik| not sure on the card, but it was ripped out of a Dell 9800 P4 PC that was customized.. it's a 64MB.. probably a TNT2
[03:49] <ubuntu> How can i burn iso with live cd?
[03:49] <ubuntu> thanks.
[03:49] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: i don't think you can
[03:49] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: now i just have to figure out how to use gnomad2
[03:49] <rob_p> pnookster:  So you're up and running ok with NAT I presume?
[03:50] <linux_galore> disturbed: what driver did you use ie what version
[03:50] <disturbed> liquidten2 I cannot tell you the error exactly unless I reboot to that drive to tell you what it says, it will not load, for me to get the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, unless there is another way...(Very very linux illiterate here..)
[03:50] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, any solution?
[03:50] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: burn with an os that is actually installed on the hd
[03:50] <pnookster> yah. I can ping out via ip address but not domain name
[03:50] <disturbed> linux_galore I used the latest one from nVidia.com under the Linux section.
[03:50] <|Sivik|> disturbed: follow the bloody url i just sent to your pm
[03:50] <|Sivik|> !nvidia
[03:50] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[03:50] <|Sivik|> that one
[03:50] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, i delete that partition that
[03:51] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: then your probably screwed
[03:51] <ubuntu> deleted
[03:51] <|Sivik|> disturbed: the forums are usually weird
[03:51] <linux_galore> disturbed: theres your mistake you need to use the "old" version usually 71** or 76** because TNT is a very old card and doesnt support the pixel shading stuff in the new driver
[03:51] <disturbed> |Sivik| Gah.. I cannot boot on the drive that needs the driver, listed in the 'bloody' pm.
[03:51] <liquidten2> disturbed:  Do you have physical access to this drive?  if so, what is it?  (hda2, hda3, hdb1, hdb2, etc)
[03:51] <liquidten2> Also, do a "sudo lspci -v"
[03:51] <rob_p> pnookster:  Set the DNS settings on the internal client PCs, to the DNS IPs of your ISP and you should be set.
[03:52] <liquidten2> disturbed: and check to see what your card actually is
[03:52] <|Sivik|> disturbed: uh, you can copy that file over once you download it and then use the recovery console to install it
[03:52] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, how good ubuntu for LCD monitor?
[03:52] <disturbed> Uhm... if I remember correctly, does hdb0 look good?... well, I only have 2 drives, and it is the main one.
[03:52] <linux_galore> disturbed: bet you got a 8*** driver so its tanking
[03:52] <WillyTell> twysted, you are right! I am a complete beginner..... I have mounted the windows CD and all is going well. I needed just a little help. Thanks a lot!
[03:52] <rob_p> pnookster:  You can setup a DHCP server on the gateway machine that will assign all that stuff for you.
[03:52] <disturbed> |sivik| again, I'm linux Illiterate.
[03:52] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: depends on the video card
[03:52] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: what video card do you have?
[03:52] <disturbed> GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[03:53] <ubuntu> yes
[03:53] <linux_galore> disturbed: the file you downloaded from nvidia what the version number
[03:53] <ubuntu> disturbed, how did you know?
[03:53] <disturbed> linux_galore give me a second, I'll link you.
[03:53] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: did you have windows on that computer with the save video card
[03:53] <|Sivik|> ubuntu:lspci
[03:53] <pnookster> excelent! works! :DD
[03:53] <disturbed> ubuntu I was posting, my video card.. sorry..
[03:53] <ubuntu> that is mine
[03:53] <pnookster> i haven't had internet on my desktop in three weeks, eheh. thanks for your help so much!
[03:53] <|Sivik|> ubuntu: go to konsole or terminla and do the lspci
[03:53] <|Sivik|> terminal*
[03:54] <wizzlefish> will upgrading to Dapper be exactly like install Ubuntu for the first time?
[03:54] <|Sivik|> !tell wizzlefish about dapper
[03:54] <ubuntu> lspci
[03:54] <|Sivik|> yes
[03:54] <ubuntu> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  (rev b2)
[03:54] <|Sivik|> !upgrade
[03:54] <disturbed> linux_galore http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8756.html ---
[03:54] <|Sivik|> !upgradetodapper
[03:54] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, |Sivik|
[03:54] <linux_galore> disturbed: was the driver a 8*** number
[03:54] <rob_p> pnookster:  I use dhcp3-server on my gateway machine.  It serves up all the IP, default gateway, DNS settings, etc. for all my internal PCs.  Works out pretty slick.
[03:54] <danl> is there an easy way to delete a massive amount of files, say 270,000? rm returns that the argument list is to long when i use the * operator
[03:55] <|Sivik|> !update
[03:55] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, |Sivik|
[03:55] <linux_galore> disturbed: ok that driver is for a 6200 or better
[03:55] <|Sivik|> !upgrade
[03:55] <disturbed> linux_galore by the way, did you notice my video card, is a GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[03:55] <linux_galore> disturbed: I have a MX400
[03:55] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: what is that command to upgrade to dapper
[03:55] <|Sivik|> tell wizzlefish
[03:55] <Badm4n> hello any1 know the good pop3 mail catcher for my ubuntu server ? ( i want to download my email from my other mail server ) but it can use with webbased interface
[03:55] <rob_p> pnookster:  Anyway, looks like you've got a handle on it now so I'll leave you to your exploration...  :-)
[03:55] <linux_galore> disturbed:  you need the 76** driver from the nvidia page
[03:55] <disturbed> linux_galore Ok, question now, how do I go about fixing the xorg file so I can even boot up on my other drive?...
[03:55] <ubuntu> |Sivik|, nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]  (rev b2)
[03:55] <linux_galore> |Sivik|: put cd in tray lol
[03:56] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: do what?
[03:56] <liquidten2> disturbed:  Just boot up on your other drive <_<
[03:56] <pnookster> thanks again! <3
[03:56] <|Sivik|> linux_galore: no, i'm trying to copy music from the hd to the zen