[12:46] <Hobbsee> yay, yipe's permanently banned
[12:46] <SportChick> Hobbsee!!
[12:47] <PriceChild> Haha
[12:47] <Hobbsee> SportChick!!!
[12:50] <LongPointyStick> Seveas: pong
[12:50] <Seveas> LongPointyStick, I needed your opinion on the permban
[12:50] <Seveas> but yipes misbehaviour later on made that no longer neccessary
[12:50] <Hobbsee> Seveas: right.
[12:53] <Hobbsee> hahahha @ the automatix stuff, PriceChild
[12:53] <PriceChild> I can still taste the soap :(
[12:55] <etank> hi
[12:58] <Hobbsee> hi
[01:00] <Seveas> ih
[01:02] <SportChick> hi
[01:04] <Seveas> mneptok-flavoured soap
[01:04] <PriceChild> ewwwwwwwww
[01:05] <Hobbsee> yuck!
[01:08] <SportChick> bleh
[01:09] <Hobbsee> mmm...tasty
[01:16] <SportChick> :(
[01:16] <PriceChild> haha
[01:16] <Seveas> we still have jen.da and nal.ioth :)
[01:17] <PriceChild> bea.rperson ?
[01:17] <Seveas> alin.deman
[01:17] <PriceChild> /stats p
[01:17] <Seveas> :)
[01:17] <Seveas> did you know /stats p now also features ompaul?
[01:18] <PriceChild> Nope
[01:18] <Seveas> well it does
[01:18] <Seveas> ompaul has been lured to the dark side
[01:19] <Seveas> I blame SportChick
[01:19] <Seveas> rezes?
[01:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> s/rezes/resurrects/
[01:20] <Seveas> ah
[01:20] <Seveas> that makes more sense
[01:24] <SportChick> :(
[01:24] <Hobbsee> heya Vorian
[01:25] <Vorian> hey Hobbsee :)
[01:27] <SportChick> @lart Seveas
[01:27] <SportChick> blah :(
[01:27] <PriceChild> haha
[01:27] <Seveas> gna
[01:27] <PriceChild> awww poor SportChick :)
[01:28] <Vorian> lol
[01:29] <PriceChild> awww
[01:29] <Seveas> hmm
[01:30] <Seveas> SportChick has auto-join-on-invite?
[01:30] <Seveas> that
[01:30] <Seveas> 's nice and abusable
[01:30] <SportChick> blah
[01:30] <SportChick> how'd THAT get turned on :(
[01:30] <Seveas> wb SportChick ;)
[01:31] <SportChick> interesting
[01:31] <SportChick> seems to only work if I'm invited to a channel on my autojoin list
[04:34] <peepsalot> can someone let me join #ubuntu or is it broken for everyone?
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> peepsalot: I think you were an !exploit victim - have you fixed your router?
[04:35] <jenda> seems to be working fine for 1002 people ;)
[04:36] <peepsalot> I changed the server port like the page said, and it still won't let me in
[04:36] <peepsalot> some guy even tried to use the exploit on me as a test and it was unsuccessful
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> peepsalot: Which guy?  I can re-test you in ##tonyyarusso also.
[04:37] <peepsalot> jdong in #ubuntuforums
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> ah, kk.  Well, we'll make it pretty quick then.
[04:38] <peepsalot> ok
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> peepsalot: all set
[04:39] <peepsalot> thanks.  any idea why i was locked out?
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> peepsalot: So that you couldn't be exploited again - so we (I) kept you out until it was confirmed you were no longer vulnerable.
[04:41] <peepsalot> what does the exploit do, just kick people?
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> Disconnects, yeah.  Causing massive quit spam in the channel.
[04:45] <Hobbsee> argh.  i've forgottne how to test people
[04:46] <Madpilot> just launch a D C C attack on them
[04:46] <Madpilot> then do it again via CTCP
[04:46] <Madpilot> do NOT do it in this channel, nalioth has fanged bots
[04:46] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: yes, i knew the last part :P
[04:47] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, pm?
[04:48] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: sure
[04:49] <Hobbsee> ah yes, found it.  thanks tonyyarusso
[04:53] <nalioth> Madpilot: Hobbsee was the first to make the acquaintance of the 'fanged ones'  :P
[04:53] <Madpilot> heh
[04:53] <Hobbsee> nalioth: heh.  yes.  and i was on the roof at the time, too
[05:00] <Madpilot> !oem
[05:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:01] <Madpilot> a specific !oem factoid might be a good idea - I've noticed loads of people mistakenly installing via the oem mode for some reason
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> How do you mistakenly install in OEM mode?  You have to download a different CD, and then pass an option...
[05:06] <Madpilot> no idea, but I see it often enough in #ubuntu
[12:39] <nalioth> !ping
[12:39] <ubot3> pong
[12:39] <ubotu> pong
[12:40] <ubot3> In ##ubot3, apokryphos said: !test is <reply> Testing a relaying factoid
[12:40] <apokryphos> hm
[12:40] <Seveas> !bot
[12:40] <ubot3> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:40] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:40] <nalioth> Seveas: give us a minute
[12:40] <apokryphos> yeah, working on it
[12:40] <Hobbsee> !boot
[12:40] <ubot3> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:40] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:40] <Seveas> !hobbsee
[12:40] <ubot3> Factoid hobbsee not found
[12:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hobbsee - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:40] <nalioth> we're trying to deafen ubot3 in here, but allow it to repeat factoid entires
[12:40] <apokryphos> ubot3: config channel #ubuntu-ops supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.prefixchar
[12:40] <ubot3> apokryphos: ~
[12:41] <ubot3> apokryphos: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[12:41] <apokryphos> making it channel specific is not that I easy, I take it 8)
[12:41] <Seveas> apokryphos, small edit in config.py
[12:41] <apokryphos> Seveas: yeah, I did that
[12:41] <Seveas> make registerglobalvalue registerChannelValue
[12:41] <nalioth> we did, Seveas
[12:41] <apokryphos> that's why it can be set to ~, but ubot3 doesn't take it in
[12:41] <apokryphos> : config channel #ubuntu-ops supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.prefixchar
[12:42] <apokryphos> eck
[12:42] <apokryphos> ubot3: config channel #ubuntu-ops supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.prefixchar
[12:42] <ubot3> apokryphos: ~
[12:42] <ubot3> apokryphos: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[12:42] <apokryphos> ubot3: config supybot.plugins.Encyclopedia.prefixchar
[12:42] <ubot3> apokryphos: !
[12:42] <ubot3> apokryphos: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[12:42] <Seveas> !foo
[12:42] <ubot3> foo is bar
[12:42] <ubotu> foo is bar
[12:42] <Seveas> ~foo
[12:42] <Seveas> intriguing
[12:42] <Seveas> must be a bug
[12:42] <apokryphos> yeah
[12:42] <apokryphos> ^part
[12:42] <ubot3> apokryphos: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
[12:42] <nalioth> ^part
[12:43] <apokryphos> might as well make him part for now until it's fixed
[12:43] <nalioth> ^part
[12:43] <Seveas> in the addressed function, you need to change something
[12:44] <Seveas> where it calls self.registryValue('prefixchar'), make it self.registryValue('prefixchar',channel=recipients)
[12:44] <apokryphos> ahh
[12:44] <Seveas> it's in there twice
[12:44] <Seveas> three times even
[12:44] <apokryphos> nalioth: try that
[12:45] <apokryphos> (in plugin.py)
[12:45] <nalioth> ah, in plugin.py
[12:45] <Seveas> if you have the latest code, it's on line 152, 154 and 171
[12:51] <apokryphos> !ping
[12:51] <ubotu> pong
[12:51] <apokryphos> woo
[12:51] <nalioth> ^ping
[12:51] <ubot3> pong
[12:51] <nalioth> thanks seveas
[12:51] <Seveas> de nada
[12:51] <apokryphos> nalioth: ~ is for factoids, and ^ for bot controls
[12:51] <nalioth> apokryphos: it should never be used in here.
[12:51] <nalioth> the only reason ubot3 is here is to share factoid entries
[12:52] <apokryphos> nalioth: there's no harm in leaving it really
[12:52] <nalioth> attempted factoid entries
[02:52] <elkbuntu> !piracy
[02:52] <ubotu> discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video.
[02:53] <nalioth> howdy elkbuntu
[02:53] <elkbuntu> !piracy
[02:53] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video.
[02:53] <elkbuntu> hi nalioth
[02:54] <elkbuntu> !piracy
[02:54] <ubotu> piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o
[02:54] <elkbuntu> there.. i think that should do it
[02:54] <mc44> Add a Yarrrr at the end
[02:55] <elkbuntu> nah
[06:32] <ubotu> In ubotu, intelikey said: no flash is recursive and need attention
[06:32] <ubotu> In ubotu, intelikey said: no flash is a recursive loop and need attention
[06:44] <Seveas> !flash
[06:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:44] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[06:44] <Seveas> !-flash
[06:44] <ubotu> flash is <alias> codecs - added by Seveas on 2006-06-18 21:43:29
[06:44] <ubotu> flash-also has no aliases - added by LjL on 2007-01-26 01:05:17
 if it's not against the rules how can you silence me? What right do you have? There is no rule that says I'm not allowed to tell people why I'm banned, especially from a chan wherein I'm such a well-known personality
[07:44] <Vorian> :)
[07:49] <Seveas> PriceChild, yipe seems to have a serious "doesn't the world revolve around me?" issue...
[07:49] <ompaul> Seveas, you mean the world does not?
[07:53] <GazzaK> no, the world revolves around me...
[07:55] <jenda> GazzaK: I don't
[07:55] <mc44> GazzaK: is that due to your high gravitational field?
[07:55] <GazzaK> mc44, you calling me fat?
[07:56] <GazzaK> hey jenda
[07:56] <jenda> oi
[07:56] <Myrtti> hmmm
[07:56] <Myrtti> that or you suck :->
[08:10] <Myrtti> a black hole
[08:11] <GazzaK> hehe
[09:11] <PriceChild> @now
[09:11] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: March 11 2007, 20:11:05 - Next meeting: Derivative Team in 21 hours 48 minutes
[09:11] <PriceChild> Wasn't there meant to be a shift today?
[09:11] <Vorian> @newyork
[09:12] <Vorian> @schedule newyork
[09:12] <mc44> PriceChild: you mean clocks changing? in the US yes, UTC doesnt change
[09:12] <Seveas> Vorian, new york has a space in its name ;)
[09:12] <Seveas> @schedule new york
[09:12] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/New_York: 12 Mar 14:00: Derivative Team | 13 Mar 12:00: Forum Council | 13 Mar 16:00: Technical Board | 14 Mar 16:00: Edubuntu | 15 Mar 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 16 Mar 06:00: MOTU Council
[09:12] <PriceChild> I'm in the UK, am I not going to be changing then?
[09:13] <Vorian> ty Seveas :)
[09:13] <mc44> PriceChild: nope
[09:13] <PriceChild> mc44, That explains it! :)
[09:13] <mc44> PriceChild: also, UTC still doesnt change :P
[09:14] <PriceChild> gmt then 8-)
[09:14] <mc44> gmt doesnt change either
[09:14] <mc44> we just switch to bst
[09:16] <darfe2> help! my timezone data is all wrong, it's not adjusted for the new daylight savings thingy - what's the deal?
[09:23] <NEaBPlayerGarth> Why can't I access the #ubuntu chanel?
[09:23] <PriceChild> !proxy > NEaBPlayerGarth (see the pm from ubotu)
[09:36] <NEaBPlayerGarth> So wait, I'm using an anonomous server or something?
[09:37] <Myrtti> basically yes
[09:37] <PriceChild> NEaBPlayerGarth, You are using ircatwork.com.... a web gateway into irc.
[09:37] <NEaBPlayerGarth> I am?
[09:37] <PriceChild> NEaBPlayerGarth, These are abused more than they're actually "used"... so we don't allow it into #ubuntu
[09:37] <NEaBPlayerGarth> I'm using Chatzilla...
[09:37] <PriceChild> NEaBPlayerGarth, If you can, you should connect using "regular" irc or get a cloak.
[09:37] <PriceChild> NEaBPlayerGarth, No you're not :)
[09:38] <NEaBPlayerGarth> That's what the window says...
[09:38] <PriceChild> * NEaBPlayerGarth<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-ops
[09:38] <NEaBPlayerGarth> Oh well, let me try again...
[09:43] <NEaBPlayerGarth2> Just wnted to thank you, I see what happened now
[09:43] <NEaBPlayerGarth2> *wanted
[09:44] <PriceChild> Ok......
[10:06] <tsmithe> :S
[10:08] <Vorian> tsmithe, you are funny
[10:08] <tsmithe> whys?
[10:08] <Vorian> "you didn't even spell her name right"
[10:08] <GazzaK> don't laugh at the poor child
[10:09] <PriceChild> yeah Vorian, he's only 12
[10:09] <Vorian> haha
[10:09] <jenda> don't make fun of the kid!
[10:09] <jenda> He's too young for you to keep picking on his age...
[10:09] <Vorian> I'm quoting tsmithe
[10:10] <tsmithe> PriceChild, 15
[10:10] <tsmithe> Vorian, where from?
[10:10] <jenda> tsmithe: that means you must've had a birthday recently... HB!
[10:10] <Vorian> it was a funny response to a certain post on the planet
[10:10] <jenda> tsmithe: I'm sure I remember 14 ;)
[10:10] <mc44> tsmithe: yeah, you werent 15 last time :)
[10:10] <tsmithe> jenda, my birthday was last month
[10:10] <tsmithe> :'(
[10:10] <GazzaK> 15 really, wow, you sure act young for your age (heheeee)
[10:10] <tsmithe> you remember?
[10:10] <mc44> GazzaK: as do you
[10:10] <jenda> tsmithe: oh... like mine...
[10:10] <tsmithe> i remembered yours :)
[10:11] <jenda> tsmithe: I probably knew that, didn't I ;)
[10:11] <GazzaK> mc44, and
[10:11] <jenda> tsmithe: Feb 12?
[10:11] <tsmithe> no
[10:11] <GazzaK> mine was feb 2nd
[10:11] <jenda> GazzaK: yeap - you're like a 120 year old guy
[10:11] <GazzaK> are you dreaming of me again jenda ?
[10:11] <jenda> Vorian: no, atually, I'm trying to remember :)
[10:11] <Vorian> :)
[10:12] <jenda> tsmithe: when, then?
[10:12] <tsmithe> 4 days earlier
[10:12] <jenda> ok
[10:12] <tsmithe> yours is 14th, right?
[10:13] <tsmithe> jenda, ?
[10:13] <GazzaK> hey xyr
[10:14] <tsmithe> hiya xyr
[10:14] <xyr> Ho.
[10:14] <SportChick> hehe
[10:14] <xyr> GazzaK, you keep going on about our phone call :O
[10:15] <GazzaK> sorry
[10:15] <mc44> eew you actually *talked* to GazzaK
[10:15] <tsmithe> xyr, it's ok - /me isn't any more it turns out
[10:15] <xyr> tsmithe, hmm?
[10:15] <mc44> I just assumed he was a turing test
[10:15] <xyr> GazzaK, np. I try to be friendly :)
[10:16] <tsmithe> well, i was gonna ask about why +u was unset, but it's ok now - just noticed i was in 22 channels :)
[10:16] <jenda> tsmithe: yup
[10:16] <tsmithe> :)
[10:18] <tsmithe> jenda, so i remember yours but not you mine. shocking
[10:19] <jenda> tsmithe: I barely remember my own...
[10:19] <tsmithe> hehe me neither
[10:19] <tsmithe> i never celebrate. just do the usual stuff with mates. a bday is just another day to me
[10:19] <GazzaK> jenda, have you had time to set up a gallery for your recent holiday?
[10:20] <jenda> GazzaK: I don't even have my pix developed ;)
[10:20] <GazzaK> film camera?  wow, how quaint
[10:20] <mc44> jenda: just plug the film into the usb port
[10:20] <GazzaK> I thought I was the last guy alive who uses film
[10:20] <tsmithe> i used to. but they were just disposable as i didn't have a camera
[10:21] <tsmithe> then my digital one got broken :'(
[10:21] <jenda> GazzaK: no, it's not a thing we have in common.
[10:23] <tsmithe> pah he never told me where he sourced those quotes from
[10:28] <Seveas> @t
[10:28] <Ubugtu> All the world's gold was once actually lead that Mr. T thought needed an attitude adjustment.
[10:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> @vin
[10:32] <Ubugtu> Once upon a time, Vin Diesel solved murders in Hawaii. He drove a red Ferrari and enlisted the help of his black friend that flew a helicopter....no....wait...that was Abe Vigoda.
[11:41] <elkbuntu> in other news, apparantly hobbsee and mirjam are the only girls on planet.u.c
[11:42] <mc44> awww
[11:42] <elkbuntu> there is amy jiang and myself as well...
[11:42] <mc44> you wanted to be included in that fun misogynistic blog post :)
[11:42] <elkbuntu> and when i joined planet, i was the only female
[11:43] <elkbuntu> (and others tell me the first female)
[11:44] <Seveas> !staff
[11:44] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob or SportChick! I could use a bit of your time :)
[11:45] <SportChick> hi Seveas
[11:46] <Seveas> SportChick, mr_pouit wants an ubuntu/member cloak
[11:46] <Seveas> please take care of it :)
[11:46] <SportChick> Seveas: he needs an alternate nick first :)
[11:48] <Seveas> SportChick, <mr_pouit> I've also registered mrpouit, I'll link it
[11:48] <SportChick> great
[11:50] <Seveas> so how about that cloak? :)
[11:51] <SportChick> NickServ(NickServ@services.)- Cloak for [mr_pouit]  has been toggled [ON]  and changed to [ubuntu/member/mrpouit]
[11:51] <Seveas> gracias
[11:53] <SportChick> denada
[12:02] <Tm_T> Hmm.


[08:43] <AndrewMc1> Just upgraded my work PC from raring to saucy; no problems at all!
[09:56] <czajkowski> yay
[09:59] <slashbel> aye, yay - and i'm seeing more of your mongo db modules being backported into debian stable
[09:59] <czajkowski> :)
[09:59] <czajkowski> yay


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[08:27] <Laney> xnox: we should fix ubuntustudio/focal
[08:31] <xnox> lamont:  what's up with it?
[08:31] <xnox> lamont:  laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamont unping
[08:31] <xnox> Laney:  hm?
[08:31] <xnox> what's broken with it?
[08:31] <xnox> I did recently install 20.04.0 of it.
[08:32] <Laney> heh
[08:32] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/focal/ubuntustudio/
[08:33] <xnox> oh
[08:34] <xnox> Cannot handle more than one kernel for lowlatency (5.4.0-26-lowlatency
[08:34] <xnox> hm
[08:34]  * xnox ponders why it install many kernels
[08:44] <xnox> Laney:  we did something wrong in focal GA =/ i think blacklists are incomplete, or something?
[08:44] <xnox> # apt-cache show linux-headers-5.4.0-26-lowlatency | grep Task
[08:44] <xnox> Task: ubuntustudio-desktop-core, ubuntustudio-desktop
[08:44] <xnox> Laney:  we install -38-lowlatency, then later install task, and install -26-lowlatency without meta =(
[08:55]  * xnox does not understand why linux-lowlatency has ubuntustudio task
[08:59] <Laney> hmm
[08:59] <xnox> Laney:  found it. opening a bug report.
[09:00] <Laney> via ubuntustudio-lowlatency-settings?
[09:00] <xnox> yes
[09:00] <Laney> can see that chain
[09:18] <xnox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-meta/+bug/1884915
[09:18] <xnox> and merge proposal
[09:18] <xnox> Laney:  now, we can't drop the tasks from the focal release pocket, so for focal, i guess we need a hack in live-build to force remove that abi? or like maybe it can be done in livecd-rootfs?
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[09:43] <LocutusOfBorg> hello, would it be possible to try a meson autopkgtest on a machine that has much more memory and see if the boost test passes? http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/m/meson/groovy/amd64
[09:43] <LocutusOfBorg> I marked as flaky, but the reason might be ENOMEMORY, according also to the Debian bug 963546 (and the fact that I can't reproduce it locally)
[09:47] <Laney> LocutusOfBorg: try building an autopkgtest vm with --ram-size=1536, that's what the instances have
[09:47] <Laney> if you can reproduce, an MP adding it to big_packages would be ok
[09:49] <Laney> xnox: I think no-change SRUing it after adding the blacklist should work no?
[09:50] <ricotz> hello :), please accept the built nodejs packages - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nodejs/12.18.0~dfsg-3ubuntu1
[09:51] <LocutusOfBorg> I hope this is the way to deal with autopkgtests autopkgtest-build-lxd ubuntu-daily:groovy/amd64
[09:51] <Laney> It's sufficient in most cases, but if you want to test OOM then use a VM
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[09:54] <LocutusOfBorg> I don't remember where to download it...
[09:55] <LocutusOfBorg> I know I should search for something called autopkgtest-groovy-amd64.img
[09:56] <LocutusOfBorg> got it sudo autopkgtest-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud -v -r groovy -a amd64
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[10:15] <Laney> (s/building/running/ !!!)
[10:20] <LocutusOfBorg> sure :) the test is already running! I'll try if it fails to increase a little bit the memory to see if this is the case
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[10:46] <LocutusOfBorg> not sure why Laney but it prints some more messages when ran locally
[10:46] <LocutusOfBorg> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6425XPV3bT/
[10:47] <LocutusOfBorg> xnox, ^^ does this ring any bell?
[10:47] <LocutusOfBorg> I would blame boost for this
[10:54] <LocutusOfBorg> lets see what happens with the other run I'm doing, but yes, probably is gcc that is running out of memory...
[10:56] <Laney> add --shell-fail and look in dmesg
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[10:58] <LocutusOfBorg> yep :) unfortunately I pressed enter and everything was lost
[10:58] <xnox> Laney:  no it will not, the 26 abi package is the broken one that has the Task:, and that's frozen in focal/ suite and is always visible.
[10:59] <xnox> Laney:  live-build installs the task, not the metapackage right?
[10:59] <Laney> livecd-rootfs expands the task based on what apt-cache dumpavail outputs
[11:00] <xnox> which will forever have linux-image-5.4.0-26-lowlatency in dumpavail from the release pocket, as that package does not exist in -updates, and can never be rebuilt again.
[11:00] <Laney> no
[11:00] <Laney> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9TXCdCtS85/
[11:01] <xnox> i think i must be talking about an issue from the morning
[11:01]  * xnox is not sure what gnome-shell has to do with ubuntustudio FTBFS
[11:01] <Laney> I'm showing you that the release pocket version isn't there
[11:03] <Laney> so you can shadow stuff out in -updates
[11:03] <xnox> if the binary package exists in both suites, yes.
[11:03] <xnox> which is not true for kernel abi packages
[11:04] <xnox> Laney:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2QQ6ZMdsKH/
[11:04] <xnox> -26- only exists in release, -37- only exists in updates, and both are available
[11:06] <xnox> complete paste https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ypDPDRqkdH/
[11:07] <Laney> ah YEAH for the kernel specifically that's true
[11:12] <xnox> Laney:  hm, if we fix seed, can we do binary copy of those abi packages from release to updates, such that it is published with a new task from updates pocket?
[11:12]  * xnox guesses that will not work, because apt preffers the first instance of a package version and we list release suite first.
[11:16] <Laney> I'm not sure what a good fix looks like
[11:16] <Laney> hack in livecd-rootfs to remove it?
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[11:22] <Laney> and maybe an assert in there to fail if any linux-image turn up in seeded tasks?
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[12:32] <rbasak> bdmurray: dear SRU mentor, how do I handle people syncing things in SRUs from eg. Debian, such as budgie-extras?
[12:33] <rbasak> The version will be fine, but I can't see if it's a source-only sync (OK I guess) or a binary sync (would be bad presumably).
[12:33] <rbasak> And this method is not something in any documented process I know about - how would it work for SRU verification and the pending-sru report?
[12:33] <rbasak> I keep seeing these, and I keep ignoring them, so I thought it's about time I asked.
[12:33] <rbasak> (see budgie-extras in the Focal unapproved queue for example)
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[13:25] <Eickmeyer> xnox: I'm looking at your MP right now. Groovy hasn't been broken, it has been Focal. So, how does your fix for groovy fix the focal builds?
[13:29] <Laney> it'll need to be backported...
[13:30] <Eickmeyer> Laney: I understand, but wouldn't it be easier to do that in the focal branch of the seed?
[13:30] <Laney> Usually you fix the development branch, and then backport the fix
[13:31] <Eickmeyer> Then wouldn't it be better to drop the recommends in ubuntustudio-default-settings rather than to blacklist it in the seed?
[13:31] <Eickmeyer> I'm just going based on the premise I've been told that blacklisting in the seed is bad.
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[13:33] <Eickmeyer> I mean, I'm not against this totally, I just want to make sure we're doing this right.
[13:43] <Eickmeyer> I'm glad I'm finally getting some help fixing this (after several weeks of asking), but I'd just like some clarification.
[13:48] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  Laney: not that.
[13:48] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  any release pocket is broken at the moemnt.
[13:49] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  the linux-*XX-* packages must not have any tasks
[13:49] <Laney> "that"?
[13:49] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  because after groovy goes GA, if we ever try to make a point release, it will fail to build, once there is a new kernel in -updates.
[13:49] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  but the breakage comes from bad Task: * declaration, which ubuntustudio seeds generated on the linux-* packages, which they should not do.
[13:50] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  i'm not yet sure how to fix this in focal, because a change of seeds in focal, will not undo the damage in the frozen focal/ suite
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[13:50] <Eickmeyer> xnox: So, what you're saying is that blacklisting this rather than dropping the recommends is the more-correct way to go?
[13:50] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  i'm thinking to upload livebuild or live-cdrootfs to force remove the -26- abi kernel during ubuntustudio build as it has broken Tasks, which we can't remove, and said package must not be install on the iso.
[13:51] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  i don't know why you have recommends there at all.
[13:51] <Eickmeyer> xnox: I can drop that very easily.
[13:51] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  no packages in the archive may depend on a linux flavour.
[13:51] <xnox> Eickmeyer: why was it added? is it needed for calamares?
[13:52] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  but i think the actual problem is generating Tasks on kernel abi packages
[13:52] <Eickmeyer> xnox: No. It was added a long time ago for the grub menu prioritization (ubuntustudio-lowlatency-settings).
[13:52] <xnox> separately, i'm thinking that maybe platform/ seed should be blacklist _all_ kernel abi packages
[13:52] <xnox> such that none of the seeds can ever accidently generate Tasks: on them
[13:52] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  why recommend something, that is manually installed for you anyway?
[13:53] <Eickmeyer> But now that I think of it, -lowlatency-settings shouldn't recommend it anyhow.
[13:53] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  or in otherwords, why recommend something, that can be removed?
[13:53] <Eickmeyer> xnox: I don't know, it was a long time ago.
[13:53] <xnox> =)
[13:53] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  i didn't suggest dropping the Recommends, because i don't know how/why it is used. For pure cdimage.ubuntu.com based images it is redudant and broken.
[13:53] <xnox> and we don't have d-i based installers anymore
[13:54] <xnox> and studio is moving to calamares anyway
[13:54] <Eickmeyer> Right. It doesn't matter for calamares at all.
[13:54] <xnox> and we are implementing a grub flavour sorter in Ubuntu properly anyway, such that one will be able to declare GRUB_FLAVOUR priority list =)
[13:54] <xnox> Eickmeyer: so instead of blacklist, you can drop the recommends and upload that into groovy
[13:55] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  and i'll ponder about hacks to unbreak focal builds of ubuntustudio
[13:55] <Eickmeyer> Ok. I can do that very easily.
[13:55] <xnox> (neither dropping recommends, nor seed blacklist, nor rebuilds, alone will unbreak focal)
[13:56] <Eickmeyer> Ok, so focal is broken at a foundational level at this point.
[13:56] <Laney> 24/06 12:16:11 <Laney> I'm not sure what a good fix looks like
[13:56] <Laney> 24/06 12:16:18 <Laney> hack in livecd-rootfs to remove it?
[13:56] <Laney> 24/06 12:22:52 <Laney> and maybe an assert in there to fail if any linux-image turn up in seeded tasks?
[13:56] <Laney> Feel like my input earlier was ignored / overlooked
[13:57]  * xnox goes to re-read
[13:57] <xnox> Laney:  sorry missed that.
[13:57] <Laney> that's OK, that is all
[13:58] <xnox> Laney:  something like that. platform/ blacklist, or like autopkgtest? ubuntu-archive-publishing overrides?
[13:59] <Laney> I'd probably want Colin's input on where the blacklist should be implemented
[13:59] <Laney> but we can add the guards into livecd-rootfs I think
[13:59] <Laney> unless we're missing a legit case
[14:02] <Eickmeyer> xnox, Laney: Fixes to ubuntustudio-default-settings uploaded. Should I reject the MP to the seed?
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[14:27] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  you can reject that, sure
[14:28] <Eickmeyer> xnox: Done. I assume you're working on the focal breakage?
[14:29] <Eickmeyer> BTW, sorry, that breakage, knowing what I know now, is my fault.
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[15:42] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  I am sure you didn't intentionally uploaded something to break your own flavour =) so no harm on your part.
[15:42] <xnox> from archive point of view, we should have better stuff to catch things like that, but it only breaks once every few years.
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[16:25] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, FYI confirmed
[16:25] <LocutusOfBorg> [ 3874.578360] oom-kill:constraint=CONSTRAINT_NONE,nodemask=(null),cpuset=/,mems_allowed=0,global_oom,task_memcg=/user.slice/user-998.slice/session-c2.scope,task=cc1plus,pid=90806,uid=998
[16:25] <LocutusOfBorg> [ 3874.578376] Out of memory: Killed process 90806 (cc1plus) total-vm:392820kB, anon-rss:349104kB, file-rss:344kB, shmem-rss:0kB, UID:998 pgtables:804kB oom_score_adj:0
[16:25] <LocutusOfBorg> [ 3874.603197] oom_reaper: reaped process 90806 (cc1plus), now anon-rss:0kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
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[17:17] <Eickmeyer> Ok, next issue, though somewhat related: I removed ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme from ubuntustudio-default-settings, and now for some reason it's holding up in update-excuses. Can we do something about that?
[17:17] <Eickmeyer> xnox, Laney ^
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[17:29] <LocutusOfBorg> Laney, looks like I can't open a merge request, can you please check/grab from there if it looks sane to you? https://code.launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+git/autopkgtest-cloud/+ref/add-meson
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[17:40] <xnox> Eickmeyer:  you need to highlight 'ubuntu - archive' as per topic, without spaces
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[17:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure-5.3 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.3.0-1031.32~18.04.1] (no packageset)
[17:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gle-graphics [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed/universe) [4.2.5-8] (no packageset)
[17:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-azure-5.3 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [5.3.0-1031.32~18.04.1]
[17:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-gcp-5.3 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.3.0-1029.31~18.04.1] (no packageset)
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[17:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [arm64] (eoan-proposed/main) [5.3.0-61.55] (core, kernel)
[17:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [arm64] (eoan-proposed) [5.3.0-61.55]
[17:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gcp-5.3 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [5.3.0-1029.31~18.04.1]
[17:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gle-graphics [arm64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [4.2.5-8] (no packageset)
[18:12] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu-archive: I removed ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme from ubuntustudio-default-settings, and now for some reason it's holding up in update-excuses. Can we do something about that?
[18:20] <bdmurray> Eickmeyer: I don't think "Valid candidate" translates to "holding up".
[18:20] <bdmurray> It just means be patient.
[18:31] <Eickmeyer> bdmurray: A while ago it was whining about a missing build. That's what spurred my comment.
[18:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ocaml-odoc [riscv64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [1.5.1-1] (no packageset)
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[18:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gle-graphics [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [4.2.5-8]
[18:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gle-graphics [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed) [4.2.5-8]
[18:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kimageannotator [riscv64] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
[18:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ocaml-odoc [riscv64] (groovy-proposed) [1.5.1-1]
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[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gle-graphics [arm64] (groovy-proposed) [4.2.5-8]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ocaml-odoc [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed) [1.5.1-1]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kimageannotator [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-diagrams [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [0.9.0-1]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gftl [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [1.2.5-2]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kimageannotator [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kimageannotator [armhf] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ocaml-odoc [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [1.5.1-1]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ocaml-odoc [armhf] (groovy-proposed) [1.5.1-1]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted petsc4py [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [3.13.0-3]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-bioc-rwikipathways [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [1.6.1+dfsg-1]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nodejs [amd64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [12.18.0~dfsg-3ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nodejs [armhf] (groovy-proposed/universe) [12.18.0~dfsg-3ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nodejs [s390x] (groovy-proposed/universe) [12.18.0~dfsg-3ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gle-graphics [s390x] (groovy-proposed) [4.2.5-8]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kimageannotator [s390x] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ocaml-odoc [s390x] (groovy-proposed) [1.5.1-1]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted r-cran-findpython [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [1.0.5-2]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nodejs [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed/universe) [12.18.0~dfsg-3ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted kimageannotator [arm64] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted python-drf-spectacular [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [0.9.1-1]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: qdarkstyle [amd64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [2.8.1+ds1-1] (no packageset)
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ocaml-odoc [arm64] (groovy-proposed) [1.5.1-1]
[18:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nodejs [arm64] (groovy-proposed/universe) [12.18.0~dfsg-3ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted deal.ii [arm64] (groovy-proposed) [9.2.0-1]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libopenshot-audio [riscv64] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.0+dfsg1-1]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted petsc4py [armhf] (groovy-proposed) [3.13.0-3]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted petsc4py [riscv64] (groovy-proposed) [3.13.0-3]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted primus-vk [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [1.5-1]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: add64 (groovy-proposed/primary) [3.9.3-0ubuntu1]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: plasma-wayland-protocols (groovy-proposed/primary) [1.0-0ubuntu1]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hsyaml-aeson [riscv64] (groovy-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-2]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted petsc4py [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed) [3.13.0-3]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted primus-vk [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed) [1.5-1]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: redkite (groovy-proposed/primary) [0.8.1-0ubuntu1]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted petsc4py [arm64] (groovy-proposed) [3.13.0-3]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: kwayland-server (groovy-proposed/primary) [5.19.1-0ubuntu1]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted petsc4py [s390x] (groovy-proposed) [3.13.0-3]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted apbs [arm64] (groovy-proposed) [3.0.0+dfsg1-2]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted apbs [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed) [3.0.0+dfsg1-2]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hsyaml-aeson [arm64] (groovy-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-2]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libopenshot-audio [arm64] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.0+dfsg1-1]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libopenshot-audio [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.0+dfsg1-1]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nanofilt [armhf] (groovy-proposed) [2.6.0-2]
[18:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted openshot-qt [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [2.5.1+dfsg1-1]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted apbs [armhf] (groovy-proposed) [3.0.0+dfsg1-2]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hsyaml-aeson [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-2]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nanofilt [arm64] (groovy-proposed) [2.6.0-2]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted apbs [riscv64] (groovy-proposed) [3.0.0+dfsg1-2]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nanofilt [riscv64] (groovy-proposed) [2.6.0-2]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libopenshot-audio [armhf] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.0+dfsg1-1]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted apbs [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [3.0.0+dfsg1-2]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted deal.ii [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [9.2.0-1]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gftl [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [1.2.5-1]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libhibernate-validator4-java [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [4.3.4-2]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libscgi-perl [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [0.6-1]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nanofilt [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed) [2.6.0-2]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted apbs [s390x] (groovy-proposed) [3.0.0+dfsg1-2]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted haskell-hsyaml-aeson [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>-2]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nanofilt [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [2.6.0-2]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted deal.ii [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed) [9.2.0-1]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nanofilt [s390x] (groovy-proposed) [2.6.0-2]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libopenshot-audio [s390x] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.0+dfsg1-1]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted deal.ii [s390x] (groovy-proposed) [9.2.0-1]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nanofilt [armhf] (groovy-proposed) [2.6.0-1]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted prometheus-tplink-plug-exporter [arm64] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.0+git20200622.cc4a731-1]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted prometheus-tplink-plug-exporter [riscv64] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.0+git20200622.cc4a731-1]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nanofilt [arm64] (groovy-proposed) [2.6.0-1]
[18:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted prometheus-tplink-plug-exporter [armhf] (groovy-proposed) [0.2.0+git20200622.cc4a731-1]
[18:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted nanofilt [riscv64] (groovy-proposed) [2.6.0-1]
[20:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected apport [source] (focal-proposed) [2.20.11-0ubuntu27.4]
[20:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cinder (focal-proposed/main) [2:16.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 2:16.1.0-0ubuntu1] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[20:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (bionic-proposed/restricted) [390.132-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 390.138-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[20:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (focal-proposed/restricted) [390.132-0ubuntu2 => 390.138-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (core, i386-whitelist) (sync)
[20:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (eoan-proposed/restricted) [390.132-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 390.138-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (core) (sync)
[20:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nvidia-graphics-drivers-440 (bionic-proposed/multiverse) [440.59-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 440.100-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset) (sync)
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[20:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 [sync] (focal-proposed) [390.138-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
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[20:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 [sync] (bionic-proposed) [390.138-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
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[20:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 [sync] (eoan-proposed) [390.138-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
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[20:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected nvidia-graphics-drivers-440 [sync] (focal-proposed) [440.100-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[20:57] <coreycb> hello, please can an archive admin reject nova, neutron, heat, horizon, glance, and aodh from the eoan unapproved queue? with EOL around the corner we're going to upload those straight to the train cloud archive.
[22:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: bash (focal-proposed/main) [5.0-6ubuntu1 => 5.0-6ubuntu1.1] (core, i386-whitelist)
[22:27] <bdmurray> coreycb: don't you mean an SRU team member as its eoan
[22:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected aodh [source] (eoan-proposed) [9.0.1-0ubuntu1]
[22:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected heat [source] (eoan-proposed) [1:13.0.2-0ubuntu1]
[22:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected neutron [source] (eoan-proposed) [2:15.1.0-0ubuntu1]
[22:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected glance [source] (eoan-proposed) [2:19.0.3-0ubuntu1]
[22:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected nova [source] (eoan-proposed) [2:20.3.0-0ubuntu1]
[22:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected horizon [source] (eoan-proposed) [3:16.2.0-0ubuntu1]
[22:32] <bdmurray> rbasak: I rejected budgie-extras
[22:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected budgie-extras [sync] (focal-proposed) [1.0.2-1]
[22:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: apport (focal-proposed/main) [2.20.11-0ubuntu27.3 => 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.4] (core, i386-whitelist)
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[08:17] <Wellark> hi! is the new hso-driver included in the intrepid kernels?
[08:17] <Wellark> http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/919938?page=last
[09:01] <cking> Wellark: the hso-driver is not in the current intrepid kernel source
[09:02] <Wellark> cking: is it going to be included?
[09:03] <Wellark> I'm working on network-manager and there are devices that need that driver
[09:04] <amitk_> Wellark: we are still contemplating if Ubuntu will carry 2.6.27 for intrepid. If that happens, hso is already there.
[09:04] <amitk_> currently we are at 2.6.26, but we have a 2.6.27-rc tree called ubuntu-next available for testing if you need.
[09:04] <Wellark> but if you decide to stick with .26 will the hso-driver be included?
[09:05] <Wellark> or is it too early to tell?
[09:05] <amitk_> Wellark: it could be backported if it is a single driver. Wait another week to check if we make the move (probably will). Otherwise ping us again.
[09:08] <Wellark> ok. great!
[09:23] <tjaalton> does ubuntu-next work with DKMS/nvidia?
[09:29] <tjaalton> apparently it should
[09:41] <tjaalton> wow, my laptop stays suspended with .27-rc3
[09:41] <tjaalton> unlike with .26 where it resumes right away
[09:52] <amitk_> tjaalton: looks like we have another supported for 2.6.27 :)
[09:53] <amitk_> *supporter
[09:56] <Wellark> what's the main concern about .27? not enough testing?
[10:03] <amitk_> Wellark: that fact that .27 will probably get released _very_ close to our freeze
[10:05] <Wellark> just send Linus an email.. :P
[10:16] <amitk_> :D
[11:37] <tjaalton> amitk: indeed :)
[13:15] <TommyBJ> Will the kernel for intrepid be .27 or .26 ?
[13:15] <_ruben> not decided yet
[13:17] <TommyBJ> Aha. When is this decision due?
[13:19] <_ruben> within a week i think
[13:19] <TommyBJ> Ok. Thanks :)
[13:24] <Wellark> just add it to topic already :)
[13:35] <TommyBJ> :>
[13:48] <Edulix> hello
[13:48] <Edulix> anyone knows something if similar to this: http://www.bitwizard.nl/remote_devices/ is being worked on nowadays? :P
[13:49] <Edulix> for webcams specifically
[13:50] <Edulix> uhm I should probably better ask in ##kernel
[14:52] <BenC> So far I have not seen one Nay on 2.6.27 for intrepid
[14:57] <zul> rtg: those xen patches are targeted for 2.6.27 assuming that it goes into intrepid
[14:57] <zul> BenC: only one?
[14:57] <BenC> zul: I've seen none
[14:58] <rtg> BenC: well, you know I'm in favor 'cause I'm thinking about how to get 2.6.27 into Hardy.
[14:59] <laga> BenC: did you have a change to review aufs?
[14:59] <smb_tp> While I am not so sure about 2.6.27 in Hardy, I think it a good ideao for Intrepid
[14:59] <BenC> laga: Yeah, going to sync it
[14:59] <laga> BenC: using my patch or from upstream?
[15:00] <zul> rtg: it would make life so much easier for somethings
[15:00] <BenC> laga: yours
[15:00] <laga> yay
[15:00] <BenC> I guess now's a good time to install 2.6.27 on my laptop
[15:01] <rtg> BenC: I'm test building -rc4. Shall I push the rebase if it compiles?
[15:03] <BenC> rtg: I've already rebased it locally and pushed
[15:03] <rtg> BenC: I must have just missed it.
[15:03] <BenC> Forgot to push the -rc4 tag, so coming
[15:07] <BenC> rtg, smb_tp, cking, amitk: I think I'm going to assume that 2.6.27 will be going into intrepid and start preparing a package for upload
[15:08] <rtg> BenC: works for me.
[15:08] <cking> BenC: ditto
[15:08] <smb_tp> BenC, good for me too
[15:11] <poningru> hey quick question, how can I have a particular upstream driver updated?
[15:11] <poningru> namely madwifi
[15:11] <poningru> err as in updated in linux-restricted-modules
[15:11] <BenC> crazy...BSD alone is not GPL compatible to the kernel
[15:12] <amitk> BenC: \0/
[15:12] <poningru> the latest madwifi supports a class of netbooks that a lot of people would like to convert to ubuntu
[15:12] <BenC> poningru: madwifi is the latest upstream release
[15:12] <poningru> in hardy?
[15:12] <BenC> yes
[15:12] <BenC> we aren't syncing to svn repo
[15:12] <amitk> poningru: you probably need something from the madwifi trunk, not the release
[15:12] <poningru> yeah ofcourse
[15:13] <poningru> amitk, no iirc the latest from stable is the working one
[15:13] <poningru> its aspire one btw
[15:13] <poningru> checking
[15:15] <BenC> poningru: I'd test 2.6.27 and see if the ath5k/ath9k driver works for you
[15:15] <BenC> we are likely ditching madwifi to support those drivers instead
[15:15] <poningru> SWEET
[15:15] <poningru> cause I am pretty sure ath9k works
[15:15] <rtg> poningru: you must have an AR2425.
[15:16] <poningru> checking
[15:16] <poningru> damn it you are right madwifi stable is not .10.5.6
[15:16] <poningru> thats the one that works
[15:17] <poningru> its called the ar5006EG
[15:17] <BenC> that would be ath5k, wouldn't it?
[15:18] <rtg> BenC: it might be 9k. Luis said that it supported one of the 5k chipsets.
[15:18] <rtg> ar5006EG is an AR2425.
[15:18] <rtg> they have some confusing model numbers
[15:18] <poningru> indeed
[15:19] <rtg> I should be getting one today or Monday, so I'll know soon for sure.
[15:19] <poningru> aspire one?
[15:19] <poningru> or the wifi card?
[15:19] <rtg> no, an AR2425
[15:19] <rtg> wifi card
[15:22] <poningru> sigh I guess I will stick to my dkms solution for now
[15:22] <poningru> yeah I thought the .10.5 was the stable madwifi
[15:24] <BenC> poningru: not willing to try the 2.6.27 kernel packages?
[15:24] <poningru> well not for distribution
[15:24] <poningru> BenC, creating a no hassle ubuntu install for these netbooks
[15:25] <poningru> but yeah going to test out intrepid one of these days
[15:26] <poningru> and I guess get a .27 kernel for it
[15:26] <poningru> wait is intrepid going to have a .27 by default?
[15:26] <poningru> or .26
[15:26] <rtg> poningru: we are currently testing .27 for Intrepid
[15:28] <poningru> oh sweet
[15:28] <poningru> rc3 just came out right?
[15:28]  * poningru checks kt
[15:28] <rtg> poningru: -rc4
[15:28] <poningru> 0.0
[15:34] <poningru> I shall test and file bugs! but first a ppa
[16:29] <BenC> time to reboot...
[16:51] <BenC> well...everything seems to be functioning well
[16:52] <smb_tp> ... famous last words? ;-)
[17:04]  * BenC goes to lunch


[03:59] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted jammy
[18:08] <slyplayer> Hello
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> welcome slyplayer
[18:09] <slyplayer> I am wondering how can I code a Linux system setup process
[18:09] <slyplayer> Like debian's
[18:09] <slyplayer> Or ubuntu's
[18:10] <slyplayer> Any answer?
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> slyplayer: do you mean make your own distro?
[18:11] <slyplayer> Yeah like that
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> slyplayer: try the non official tool cubic, https://ubunlog.com/en/ubuntu-custom-cubic-iso/
[18:12] <slyplayer> Okay thanks


 'Fortunately in Ubuntu there are tons of options and lots of choice and ways to skin the cat.'
[23:41] <tonyyarusso> ?
[23:42] <tonyyarusso> Mint users just haven't realized that they're about to lose their precious Gnome 2 too :P
[23:43] <tonyyarusso> Also, "defecting in droves"?  Really?  And you're going to link to distrowatch to call something "most popular"?  Fail.


[09:41] <lamothe> Hi, I am the maintainer of me-tv in Debian but my sponsor hasn't responded in a week. The version of Me TV in sid/maverick currently has some significant issues and I would like to update it to a known stable version.  Is the revu process the correct one to use?
[11:31] <ari-tczew> can I run testbuild by pbuilder for 64bit architecture on maverick 386?
[11:32] <ari-tczew> fabrice_sp: ping
[11:35] <geser> ari-tczew: no, as you can't run 64bit apps (even in pbuilder or any chroot) with a 32bit kernel
[11:37] <ari-tczew> fabrice_sp: do you test build on bug 598684 on 64bit? on my 386 built fine. going to attach a buildlog
[11:48] <VK7HSE> Hi I've been requested to upload me-tv-1.2.6 to REVU as the Debian maintainer has been too busy to update this package within Debian it's self. This version addresses some critical issues that are in the current version that has been synced from Debian. Please see Bug #598782 for details ...
[11:55] <dupondje> ari-tczew: tried to build it, it fails
[11:56] <ari-tczew> dupondje: could you attach a buildlog on pastebin ubuntu?
[11:59] <VK7HSE> Hmm... getting this error when attempting to login to REVU ...  http://pastebin.com/Amr74ZTP  any ideas ?
[12:02] <dupondje> ari-tczew: http://paste.ubuntu.com/455414/
[12:02] <ari-tczew> dupondje: full buildlog!
[12:05] <aretrfre34> how to cross compile, normal auto package
[12:06] <BlackZ> aretrfre34: the best way would be forward it to debian
[12:06] <aretrfre34> ok, how do i do it?
[12:06] <BlackZ> if the maintainer can't, just do a Non-maintainer upload on mentors.debian.net -- I think somebody will review your package, or ask the maintainer directly
[12:07] <BlackZ> aretrfre34: http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/welcome
[12:08] <BlackZ> also, the sponsorship for packages on REVU is a separate process, marking the bug as "Invalid"
[12:09] <BlackZ> or if you want to "keep" the bug I think unsubscribing the MOTU and the REVU team would be the solution
[12:10] <BlackZ> and you should file the bug under the me-tv package in ubuntu, not upstream
[12:11] <aretrfre34> thanks, for info BlackZ
[12:16] <aretrfre34> BlackZ: is it right if add this to my sources list deb http://www.packages.debian.org lenny
[12:17] <aretrfre34> i mean which debian packages repository to add, stable one
[12:17] <BlackZ> aretrfre34: no, the right one is deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free -- but why do you want to add it?
[12:19] <aretrfre34> I'm going to add to my nokia
[12:33] <aretrfre34> BlackZ: couldn't update nokia, they changed wifi pass
[12:34] <ari-tczew> dupondje: still waiting
[12:35] <dupondje> sudo pbuilder --build libdecodeqr_0.9.3-3.dsc --logfile buildlog.txt
[12:35] <dupondje> but no buidllog :(
[12:35] <geser> dupondje: sudo pbuilder build --logfile buildlog.txt libdecodeqr_0.9.3-3.dsc
[12:36] <dupondje> bleh ok :)
[12:36] <geser> the options are to be placed between (--)build and the .dsc file
[12:38] <ari-tczew> dupondje: lucid/maverick?
[12:38] <dupondje> maverick
[12:50] <ari-tczew> dupondje: and?
[12:52] <dupondje> http://ubuntu.dupondje.be/buildlog.txt
[12:56] <ari-tczew> dupondje: 64bit?
[12:56] <dupondje> y
[12:57] <ari-tczew> dupondje: could you graciously answer in normal type and highlight me in future?
[12:58] <geser> dupondje: grab the config.log from within the pbuilder and check what exactly makes that check fail
[13:01] <ari-tczew> dupondje: could you also check build current existing package?
[13:07] <dupondje> ari-tczew: the current fails with same error
[13:11] <ari-tczew> dupondje: strange, launchpad built package fine. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdecodeqr/0.9.3-2ubuntu1
[13:14] <dupondje> ari-tczew: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opencv => check last changelog :) Change install path of python-opencv. (Closes: #565121)
[13:14] <dupondje> the official build: Unpacking libcv4 (from .../libcv4_2.0.0-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[13:14] <dupondje> just doesn't build with current version of opencv
[13:20] <ari-tczew> hm, we can upload a patch to fix it on opencv, or don't sync libdecodegr and don't touch opencv
[13:36] <dupondje> ari-tczew: or patch libdecodegr ?
[13:39] <ari-tczew> dupondje: don't have an idea for patch libdecodegr. 386 built fine.
[13:40] <ari-tczew> can I find a changes in Debian e.g. between -3 and -4 revision?
[13:49] <dupondje> mmmm
[13:49] <dupondje> ari-tczew: apt-file show libhighgui-dev
[13:49] <dupondje> can you do it ?
[13:50] <ari-tczew> dupondje: and?
[13:50] <dupondje> gimme output :)
[13:53] <ari-tczew> dupondje: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/4iSNvwxL
[13:53] <dupondje> ari-tczew: please install it and run it :) should give the files in the package then
[13:57] <ari-tczew> dupondje: yea and what's next?
[14:00] <dupondje> what files you see ?
[14:02] <ari-tczew> dupondje: please don't waste our time. say directly what you're going to
[14:02] <dupondje> I don't have the la file
[14:03] <dupondje> /usr/lib/libhighgui.la
[14:04] <dupondje> ari-tczew: and I bet its in the 32bit one ...
[14:13] <ari-tczew> dupondje: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/8DEW1dMW
[14:14] <dupondje> thats weird, and you can build it without issues ? :s
[14:14] <franko> Hi all
[14:14] <ari-tczew> dupondje: yea, 386 fine
[14:15] <ari-tczew> hi franko
[14:15] <franko> I've a small question for the smart guys here...
[14:16] <ari-tczew> franko: just ask
[14:16] <franko> I'm author of a software and I was looking the HowTo page to create an ubuntu package...
[14:17] <franko> I can't understand how it can be so complicated to create an ubuntu package!!!
[14:17] <franko> I wondering if I'm not going to give up, it seems that you need to invest a lot of time.
[14:18] <franko> I'm actually able to create debian packages but with ubuntu seems so much more complicated...
[14:19] <franko> ... but my question is: I need to adopt autoconf in my project to build a proper Ubuntu package ?
[14:22] <franko> nobody knows about autoconf ?
[14:23] <dutchie> franko: no, you don't need autoconf, just a way to build your project. Hand-crafted Makefiles are fine, if that's all you need
[14:24] <franko> dutchie: I was reading about CDBS and it seems that you need autoconf...
[14:24] <dutchie> i think CDBS is deprecated in favour of debhelper 7
[14:25] <ari-tczew> some packages has got 99_autoconf.patch
[14:26] <ari-tczew> dupondje: please see debian/rules in package libdecodeqr at line 30
[14:26] <franko> there isn't any simple up-to-date howto page to build ubuntu packages ?
[14:26] <dutchie> franko: i think you're better off doing a package in debian and allowing it to filter down from there
[14:27] <dupondje> ari-tczew: thats the OpenCV version it needs or ?
[14:27] <ari-tczew> dupondje: I think so
[14:28] <ari-tczew> dupondje: debian/rules require 2.0.5, but in repository 2.0.0 exist
[14:28] <ari-tczew> dupondje: did you check what geser want to show?
[14:28] <ari-tczew> s/show/see
[14:28] <franko> dutchie: I see... the problem is that I was dreaming of a proper beautiful ubuntu package for my project :-)
[14:28] <dupondje> need to find out how to pull out the config, but first I gtg and do some work
[14:29] <dutchie> franko: a proper beautiful Debian package is better than just an ubuntu package
[14:29] <dutchie> franko: it will end up in lots more distros without any extra work
[14:32] <franko> dutchie: I see... I guess you're correct
[14:42] <coolbhavi> hi which is the server used in reportbug.conf to report bugs to debian?
[14:43] <coolbhavi> via submittodebian?
[14:50] <franko> one last question: is there any chance that someone adopt my project to make an ubuntu package ?
[14:54] <dutchie> franko: try submitting a needs-packaging bug in launchpad or one agaist wnpp on bugs.debian.org
[15:12] <coolbhavi> reportbug.debian.org temporarily greylisted any other servers to be used? please help
[15:13] <ari-tczew> coolbhavi: what's the problem? do you want to send bug to Debian?
[15:13] <coolbhavi> yep ari-tczew
[15:14] <ari-tczew> coolbhavi: I use a mail to create a bug
[15:15] <ari-tczew> coolbhavi<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:16] <coolbhavi> yep ari-tczew but i want to know if there are any alternative servers
[15:33] <shadeslayer> oh wow... http://pastebin.com/9JNsqVcN
[15:34] <shadeslayer> can someone have a look at that issue? (package is in main)
[15:36] <jpds> You might get better speeds from a US mirror, like mirror.anl.gov.
[15:40] <shadeslayer> jpds: oh its not that i didnt have a good download speed... i was downloading something else too
[15:41] <jpds> Just a suggestion.
[15:41]  * jpds doesn't really understand why people use the master archive machines.
[15:41] <shadeslayer> jpds: :)
[15:42] <shadeslayer> jpds: im in india..so the US archives are too far.. also notice which version im using
[15:42] <jpds> Oh, in.archive is based in India.
[15:42] <shadeslayer> the indian servers lag behind by about a day to sometimes a week
[15:43] <shadeslayer> and then sometimes the MD5sum is  bad
[15:43] <jpds> Lovely... :(
[16:33] <ari-tczew> lool: ping
[16:44]  * tumbleweed wants a second opinion: Is it ok to merge xsane-doc back into xsane-common now that it's in Universe? I assume the split was made for CD-space reasons
[16:45] <Laney> does -doc depends on -common? and is that what Debian has?
[16:47] <tumbleweed> -doc doesn't have any relations to other packages, but it does put it's files in /usr/share/xsane-common/html/
[16:47] <tumbleweed> yes, debian only has -common, we made the split to -common (locales) + -doc (HTML docs) in gutsy
[16:47] <Laney> you need to make the upgrade path work out
[16:48] <tumbleweed> yes :)
[16:49] <highvoltage> hey tumbleweed nice to see you here :)
[16:49] <tumbleweed> BlackZ: Laney seems to agree: ^
[16:49] <tumbleweed> highvoltage: ugh, it's a time-sink of note
[16:50] <Laney> alternatively you could see if Debian will take the split
[16:52] <tumbleweed> Laney: yeah, maybe that's the best thing, forward it and ask them what tehy want to do
[16:53] <Laney> check the existing bugs and see if someone already did it
[16:54] <tumbleweed> whoops *slap*
[16:54] <Laney> ;)
[16:54] <highvoltage> heh
[17:33] <ari-tczew> syncpackage script oficially released in ubuntu-dev-tools \o/
[17:39] <siretart> yay
[18:00] <ScottK> FYI, the latest rebuild test is post DIF, so that's all ours to fix.
[18:00] <ScottK> lucas: Thanks for the rebuild test.
[18:07] <lool> ari-tczew: pong
[18:10] <ari-tczew> lool: did you see an e-mail from libsmbios maintainer?
[18:28] <ari-tczew> Laney: have time for sponsoring?
[19:04] <lool> ari-tczew: I'm still walking through my email slowly -- came back from a week of leave
[19:04] <lool> ari-tczew: If everything is in email, I should get back to you / the author RSN
[19:04] <ari-tczew> lool: what is RSN?
[19:05] <dutchie> ari-tczew: Real Soon Now
[19:05] <ari-tczew> ah, thanks dutchie
[19:05] <lool> (yep - thanks)
[19:06] <ari-tczew> lool: so in this place I can say you, that maintainer of libsmbios gives you a free hand to fix package (new upstream take from Ubuntu as well)
[19:09] <shadeslayer> anyone know what the channel for cleansweep is?
[19:13] <Laney> ari-tczew: if it's so urgent that it can't go through the queue, sure
[19:14] <lool> ari-tczew: Read the email now
[19:15] <ari-tczew> Laney: this is no urgent question, just want to see sponsorship by you :>
[19:16] <ari-tczew> lool: Inbox is clean. :>
[19:20] <lool> ari-tczew: Not sure what you mean; inbox is far from being clean here still  :-)
[19:20] <lool> ari-tczew: So I'm happy to discuss specifics for the future of libsmbios
[19:21] <lool> ari-tczew: Do you have some plan already, or would you like me to offer one?
[19:21] <lool> I have no strong personal interest in libsmbios; I picked up uploads in Debian at some point because there were some serious issues to address and the maintainer was looking for sponsorship (the package was needed for important hardware, but none of mine)
[19:25] <ari-tczew> lool: my plan is following: I've packed new upstream release and package is waiting for sponsorship
[19:25] <ari-tczew> Laney: note: I asked you for sponsorship just _for me_, not in general
[19:25] <lool> ari-tczew: Do you want to host it under some Vcs?
[19:26] <lool> ari-tczew: I would personally suggest that if you do, you put it under collab-maint in some way
[19:26] <ari-tczew> lool: at this moment not planned. never uploaded to Vcs
[19:26] <lool> ari-tczew: That's ok; the advantage of the Vcs is to keep fine-grained history of smaller changes than full uploads; notably packaging changes
[19:27] <lool> ari-tczew: Do you want me to sponsor it?
[19:32] <ari-tczew> lool: it would be nice, because you are a co-maintainer for libsmbios, glad if you'll sponsor my patch propose
[19:33] <ari-tczew> lool: and about Inbox: I use Evolution and Inbox is field for incoming messages
[19:40] <lool> ari-tczew: Ok; I'll write a review of the debdiff over email
[19:41] <ari-tczew> lool: it's in bzr branch
[19:43] <lool> ari-tczew: Sorry, which one?
[19:45] <ari-tczew> lool: https://code.launchpad.net/~ari-tczew/ubuntu/maverick/libsmbios/lp-591017/+merge/26992
[19:45] <lool> Ok
[20:23] <ari-tczew> bdrung: any ideas for fix bug 598684 ?
[20:27] <bdrung> fabrice_sp: ^ do you tried to build it on i386 or amd64?
[20:28] <bdrung> ari-tczew: can you update maverick and build it again?
[20:33] <ari-tczew> bdrung: dpkg-genchanges  >../libdecodeqr_0.9.3-3_i386.changes
[20:33] <ari-tczew> built fine
[20:34] <ari-tczew> bdrung: have you tried use sbuild?
[20:34] <bdrung> ari-tczew: i used pbuilder
[20:35] <ari-tczew> bdrung: did you use sbuild ever?
[20:35] <ari-tczew> I ask because it's possible that sbuild will build fine
[20:36] <bdrung> ari-tczew: really?
[20:36] <ari-tczew> bdrung: really
[20:36] <bdrung> fabrice_sp: ^ did you use pbuilder or sbuild?
[20:36] <ari-tczew> I can dig a discuss with kees, mdeslaur and ScottK
[20:37] <ari-tczew> log of discuss of course
[20:39] <ari-tczew> bdrung: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/UJRcK2M4
[20:48] <ScottK> a|wen: Thanks for taking care of boost1.40.
[20:51] <a|wen> ScottK: no problem ... i've been fixing up boost before, so why not do the merge as well


[00:15] <sagaci> raring ringtail. Nick
[00:15] <sagaci> just on release day... getting later and later these dy
[00:15] <sagaci> days
[00:21] <jea> interesting name
[01:01] <head_victim> I was about to upgrade to 12.10 beta to get in early but then realised the electrician is due anytime today to cut power for the air con to be installed. So boo that I'm having to wait to upgrade but good that I'm getting air con :)
[01:01] <head_victim> Don't want to loose power half way through an upgrade
[01:08] <jea> that would be really fun
[01:08] <jea> probably a good choice
[11:13] <head_victim> I'm wondering if the person on FB is actually that naive?
[11:14] <jea> I am not sure. The questions are a bit silly
[11:14] <jea> and can easily be googled
[11:15] <head_victim> I must say though, googling for a dash bug in 12.10 is doing my head in, all I can find are articles on the shopping issue.
[11:16] <jea> that is a bit different though
[11:17] <jea> sharing files is done just by clicking on the hard drive icon in ubuntu
[11:17] <jea> issues with a new os will be harder to find and fix
[11:18] <head_victim> How's windows with ext file systems these days?
[11:19] <jea> i am not sure, but i think it is still hard
[11:19] <jea> i never bothered trying it
[11:46] <head_victim> Hm my dash only works after I run unity --replace
[11:46] <sagaci> I don't use the dash
[11:46] <jea> that sounds like a bug
[14:11] <sagaci> everything except ubuntu is up
[14:44] <sagaci> ubuntus up
[14:45] <sagaci> kubuntu 934mb, ubuntu 763