[12:00] <crimsun> theverant: what did you change?
[12:00] <cactii> crimsun, still nothing for sound... wierd... still says that it is playing though too...
[12:01] <theverant> I added a new rule set
[12:01] <deefzi> goddamn this bug on gnome-terminal is annoying. it puts my screen (with irssi) blue from time to time and i have to detach/attach every time
[12:01] <theverant> crimsun - but it's telling me udevstart: command not found
[12:01] <jnk> rabbit, try ssh://username@ssh.server.com:port
[12:01] <crimsun> theverant: /etc/udev/rules.d/ is reparsed automatically. Don't call udevstart.
[12:01] <patterson> someone just asked how to upgrade firefox under ubuntu . uh I thught he could uncompress the file into hos exsisting firefox folder. or do a new install in his home directory. then thought,gee wonder if theres something different about ubuntu
[12:02] <crimsun> cactii: I need your amixer output again
[12:02] <theverant> crimsun - do I need to restart for it to take effect?
[12:02] <cactii> ok
[12:02] <visit0r> hi, what's the ubuntu's policy of packporting trivial driver patches to current release's kernel?
[12:02] <deefzi> how can't i obtain msttcorefonts-package from apt, although i have added universe-packets in my sources.list?
[12:02] <crimsun> theverant: no, udev monitors /etc/udev/rules.d/ like I just said
[12:02] <theverant> oh ok
[12:02] <theverant> hmm
[12:03] <visit0r> breezy works perfectly otherwise, but my remote got a driver only in 2.6.14
[12:03] <_jason> eZe, just extract the file to ~/.themes as follows: unzip /path/to/Neosipo.zip -d /home/jasonr/.themes/
[12:03] <jnk> rabbit, also, connecting to a server from the shortcut menu, you can specify the port
[12:03] <_jason> eZe, ack hold on, I mean: unzip /path/to/Neosipo.zip -d ~/.themes/
[12:03] <cactii> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7158
[12:03] <djbjrca> hello
[12:03] <crimsun> visit0r: isn't there an external version? Just compile it as a module.
[12:04] <_jason> eZe, then you can select it under theme details -> controls
[12:04] <eZe> ok, thanks, i'll try
[12:04] <crimsun> cactii: amixer sset 'Headphone' off
[12:04] <Farris1> anyone ever used openafs?
[12:04] <crimsun> Farris1: yep
[12:04] <cactii> crimsun, when I lspci I still get 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4370 (rev 02)
[12:05] <djbjrca> i am having microphone problems
[12:05] <Farris1> crimsun: What do you think?
[12:05] <djbjrca> can anyone help?
[12:05] <crimsun> cactii: your lspci output won't change
[12:05] <visit0r> crimsun: no afaik it's only a trivial patch which adds something to some common usb input driver to recognize the special buttons (it's a usb receiver + remote thing)
[12:05] <rabbit> jnk thanks!  I didn't try that "connect to server" one..  heh
[12:05] <visit0r> crimsun: so it's not actually a full blown driver, but an extension to a previous one, afaik
[12:06] <crimsun> visit0r: then you can download linux-tree-2.6.12 and apply it yourself, then generate an image or just that module(s)
[12:06] <cactii> ok
[12:06] <crimsun> Farris1: more specific, please?
[12:06] <visit0r> crimsun: yes, I know I can do that, but then I lose the automatic updates from breezy repositories due to my hand rolled kernel, that's why I wanted to know what's the policy of backporting driver patches...
[12:06] <cactii> crimsun, Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
[12:06] <cactii> ... still no audible output.
[12:07] <crimsun> lovely
[12:07] <djbjrca> how does one record with a microphone?
[12:07] <crimsun> cactii: amixer 'External Amplifier' off
[12:07] <Martini> Is it hard in Ubuntu to configure sharing of internet connection to other computers???
[12:07] <djbjrca> audacity didnt get the sound
[12:07] <crimsun> djbjrca: what sound chipset?
[12:07] <Chris_Tucker> thanks Kovecses that worked
[12:07] <djbjrca> one sec ill copy the name
[12:07] <visit0r> crimsun: I compiled 2.6.15 to this and it works fine but I get the usual ALSA driver version conflict problem I've had before (my sound card is not working perfectly, AC3 output does not work...)
[12:07] <Kovecses> Chris_Tucker, what did... i forget what we were talkign about
[12:08] <djbjrca> crimsun, sound fusion CS46xx
[12:08] <crimsun> djbjrca: make sure you unmute 'ADC', 'Mic', and 'Capture'
[12:08] <djbjrca> okay
[12:08] <Chris_Tucker> Kovecses, the gtk thing
[12:08] <djbjrca> shoot
[12:08] <cactii> crimsun, THANK YOU!!!!
[12:08] <Kovecses> Chris_Tucker, ahh ok
[12:08] <djbjrca> thank you crimsun
[12:08] <djbjrca> i g2g
[12:09] <cactii> crimsun, so should I put the atiixp into /etc/modules?
[12:09] <crimsun> cactii: echo snd-atiixp | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[12:10] <Steven_M> ok, one more time. I'm talking from the perspective of being logged in to a user who is a member of the admin group. What are the EXACT differnces between running "sudo su -" and "sudo -i"?
[12:10] <speedy> any one knows how to mount external hard drive maxtor onetouch II connected via firewire ?
[12:10] <set> !nvidia
[12:10] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:10] <crimsun> Steven_M: if you want the EXACT differences, that's system-specific. Use strace.
[12:10] <eZe> _jason, hm, no matter what I try, it just can't find the file
[12:11] <cactii> crimsun, ok so now it is in there with the | redirecting the output of echo to /etc/modules???
[12:11] <crimsun> I can be only so specific
[12:11] <Martini> Is it hard in Ubuntu to configure sharing of internet connection to other computers???
[12:11] <_jason> eZe, download it again and put it in $HOME so you dont lose it
[12:11] <crimsun> Martini: it could be simplified, sure
[12:11] <cactii> Man... I can learn Linux... I'm sure...
[12:11] <eZe> ok
[12:11] <Kovecses> Martini, very simple
[12:11] <rabbit> jnk,  still here??
[12:11] <cactii> Now what was the URL to the MP3 codecs again... hmmm
[12:11] <jnk> rabbit, yep ?
[12:12] <cactii> restricted formats..
[12:12] <_jason> ubotu, tell cactii about mp3
[12:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell cactii about mp3
[12:12] <rabbit> jnk, the server I'm using now shows up in the 'places' list..   how do I edit/or delete/manage the entries here?
[12:12] <clearscreen> Ermm.. Debian had the old kernel so I couldnt get my nForce 4 working with it (on install).. so I grabbed the latest ubuntu release since it has a later kernel version.. everything installed just fine.. but when I booted it told me "Error on loading operating system"(or something like that).. does this sound familiar to anyone?
[12:12] <theverant> crimsun - my new udev rule apparently had no effect
[12:12] <Kovecses> installing xmms will give you mp3 support
[12:12] <firebird> don't you need to install gstreamer-0.8plugins as well?
[12:12] <crimsun> theverant: what precisely is it /supposed/ to do?
[12:13] <JaZy84> how can i burn a ccd/img in linux k3b doesn't seem to be finding it as a valid im
[12:13] <JaZy84> g
[12:13] <gnomefreak> gstreamer08-mad
[12:13] <theverant> mount my ipod to /media/IPOD
[12:13] <Kovecses> firebird, if you want mp3 support in rythymbox
[12:13] <firebird> oh :)
[12:13] <gnomefreak> 0.8
[12:13] <theverant> seems like it should be simple enough
[12:13] <clearscreen> can anyone please help me :P
[12:13] <theverant> I used
[12:13] <theverant> BUS="usb", SYSFS{serial}=="000A270014A5EA62", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="IPOD"
[12:13] <crimsun> theverant: are you not using gnome-volume-manager?
[12:14] <theverant> crimsun, I'm running KDE
[12:14] <gnomefreak> theverant, nothing is all that hard if you take your time and read or ask the right questions you can than do anything :)
[12:14] <crimsun> theverant: then let ivman do it
[12:14] <Kovecses> very true gnomefreak
[12:14] <theverant> ivman?
[12:14] <crimsun> yes, that's what does it.
[12:14] <crimsun> you might need Dapper's version
[12:14] <crimsun> (if you're running Breezy)
[12:14] <gnomefreak> 3.5?
[12:14] <Steven_M> crimsun: Please explian one more time why sudo -i is prefered?
[12:14] <jnk> rabbit, rabbit I think you can from any file selector (ie you open an app like gedit and File->Open)
[12:15] <crimsun> Steven_M: because it doesn't call an external executable
[12:15] <gnomefreak> Steven_M, man sudo
[12:15] <Kovecses> Steven_M, you could just set up a root account
[12:15] <mgbowman> any preivous Gentoo users in here?
[12:15] <theverant> well my problem is that my device lineup changes, so something might be sdf one time, but sdg the next
[12:15] <theverant> mgbowman - me, kinda
[12:15] <rabbit> jnk, and then edit what??
[12:15] <Chris_Tucker> is there anything out there that will work with either amaroK/Kaffeine/ or xmms to make one of them play aacPlus streams?
[12:15] <theverant> mgbowman - I tried it out for a little bit had trouble getting my scanner working at all
[12:16] <crimsun> theverant: that's not really an issue at all
[12:16] <gnomefreak> if ubuntu inteded me to use su than it wouldnt be disabled :)
[12:16] <cactii> OMG I have MP3 and all my audio!!! Thanks guys. Thanks alot to you too crimsun. :)
[12:16] <Shadyman> cactii: Yay :)
[12:16] <gnu2it2> what is the difference between sid and dapper ?
[12:16] <Shadyman> Hi all.
[12:16] <jnk> rabbit, no just when you open a file from a gnome application, in the file selector you can add and remove places
[12:16] <crimsun> gnu2it2: Debian vs. Ubuntu
[12:17] <gnomefreak> sid =etch in a way
[12:17] <Martini> Kovecses: I found a tip in ubuntu forum - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[12:17] <clearscreen> Ermm.. Debian had the old kernel so I couldnt get my nForce 4 working with it (on install).. so I grabbed the latest ubuntu release since it has a later kernel version.. everything installed just fine.. but when I booted it told me "Error on loading operating system"(or something like that).. does this sound familiar to anyone?
[12:17] <Martini> Kovecses: It looks it isn't so simple as you say
[12:17] <vincenz> how do I mount a directory on another computer
[12:17] <gillion> vincenz: use nfs
[12:17] <gnomefreak> clearscreen, please define latest release of ubuntu
[12:18] <xiaogil> how to survey the trafic on a website ?
[12:18] <theverant> crimsun - ok, installing ivman now... hope it works :)
[12:18] <Chris_Tucker> is there anything out there that will work with either amaroK/Kaffeine/ or xmms to make one of them play aacPlus streams?
[12:18] <deefzi> why can't i find package "msttcorefonts" although i have multiverse-repositories available?
[12:18] <deefzi> is it renamed?
[12:18] <Martini> maybe you have more simple way to configure sharing of Internet?
[12:18] <Kovecses> Martini, what exactly are you trying to do
[12:18] <clearscreen> gnomefreak 5.10
[12:18] <rabbit> jnk, I'm not allowed..  it's greyed out
[12:18] <gnomefreak> :) smart man
[12:18] <crimsun> deefzi: I'll bet it's because you didn't enable /breezy/ instead of /breezy-backports/
[12:18] <clearscreen> gnomefreak ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso :P
[12:18] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell chris_ticker about aac
[12:19] <bshumate> xiaogil: this is an excellent, and easy to get going package for web analytics : http://www.phpmyvisites.net/
[12:19] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell Chris_Tucker about aac
[12:19] <Martini> Kovecses: I'm trying to share Internet from Ubuntu to other computers
[12:19] <gnomefreak> it wont boot into ubuntu?
[12:19] <clearscreen> gnomefreak I get that error immediately after my bios post screen
[12:19] <clearscreen> and thats the only error I get
[12:19] <visit0r> crimsun: so... I suppose only security patches/fixes to bugs are backported to breezy kernel?
[12:19] <crimsun> visit0r: correct
[12:19] <Kovecses> Martini, do you have multiple ethernet cards
[12:19] <gnomefreak> what is the error clear
[12:19] <jnk> rabbit, well :)  click on a folder in the list on the right, and you can add it to places. Click on a place (one in the bottom part) and you can remove it!
[12:20] <xiaogil> bshumate: thanks!!
[12:20] <clearscreen> "Error on loading operating system"(in my language :P)
[12:20] <deefzi> crimsun, enabled both
[12:20] <gnomefreak> clearscreen, is that the only os on that pc?
[12:20] <clearscreen> nope
[12:20] <vincenz> odd
[12:20] <crimsun> deefzi: then what's the output from apt-cache policy msttcorefonts ?
[12:20] <rabbit> jnk, that's nice..  but if you add a "server"  now what?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> what other one? windows?
[12:20] <vincenz> I have a fat32 partition for sharing my data between linux and windows and I can't write to it
[12:20] <crimsun> deefzi: (pastebin)
[12:20] <clearscreen> yes gnomefreak, windows xp
[12:20] <speedy> i dont have /dev/sda*, how can i have these devices? so i can mount my external hard drive
[12:20] <revmoo> hey guys, I can't copy/paste proper anymore, i used to be able to select text and then hit both mouse buttons to paste but this no longer works, any ideas on why not?
[12:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hm
[12:20] <jnk> rabbit, you can remove it from there can't you?
[12:20] <visit0r> crimsun: ok, is it then possible to upgrade ALSA libs without breaking everything?
[12:20] <revmoo> this literally just stopped working overnight
[12:21] <gnomefreak> i would try installing ubuntu againa nd place grub on mbr
[12:21] <amparo_pzzi> hi
[12:21] <amparo_pzzi> i have this problem
[12:21] <amparo_pzzi> DCOPServer could not be started,
[12:21] <deefzi> crimsun, E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[12:21] <crimsun> speedy: they're populated when the drives are detected.
[12:21] <Shadyman> Is there a room more suited for questions about ndiswrapper/wpa_supplicant?
[12:21] <clearscreen> gnomefreak I did.. well the installer did that for me :P
[12:21] <crimsun> visit0r: sure...but why?
[12:21] <deefzi> crimsun, Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:21] <amparo_pzzi> is any solution????
[12:21] <rabbit> jnk, no..  I can't..  it doesn't let me..   I think I'm still "logged in" though, because it's not asking me for my password when I click on it on nautilus.. so maybe that's why
[12:21] <crimsun> deefzi: sudo apt-get update
[12:21] <visit0r> crimsun: to be able to have the latest kernel and still properly functionin sound card :)
[12:21] <vincenz> How do I make the fat32 partition load as writeable?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> does it give you a grub "error" like 18?
[12:21] <clearscreen> nope
[12:21] <vincenz> only root has access to write to it
[12:22] <bshumate> xiaogil: no problem! hope you got yer php-gd issues settled, i think phpmyvisite it relies on gd to make fancy graphs and such.
[12:22] <clearscreen> the only error it gives is the: Error on loading blah blah
[12:22] <crimsun> visit0r: what's in the newer alsa-lib that needs to be fixed?
[12:22] <jnk> rabbit, ah do you have an icon on the desktop? if yes right-click and unmount, this should remove it from the places
[12:22] <clearscreen> no error codes, no nothing
[12:22] <deefzi> crimsun, i know. still no help
[12:22] <crimsun> vincenz: mount it with umask=022
[12:22] <vincenz> crimsun: how do I set that up with fstab
[12:22] <crimsun> deefzi: pastebin your sources.list
[12:22] <gnomefreak> clearscreen, same hd for both?
[12:22] <gillion> vincenz: man mount lookup umask
[12:22] <clearscreen> yes gnomefreak
[12:22] <speedy> crimsun, i plugged in my maxtor onetouch firewire, and nothing happened, i unloaded all 1394 related modules and loaded them back again, i want to mount my drive..
[12:22] <crimsun> vincenz: it goes in the options column
[12:22] <rabbit> jnk, oh yeah!   sweet!
[12:22] <vincenz> ah thank
[12:22] <rabbit> jnk, that's not bad..   thanks : )
[12:23] <rabbit> jnk, too many windows open : P haha
[12:23] <crimsun> speedy: are you doing this from within GNOME?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> see that happened to me i re-installed it and it worked :(
[12:23] <deefzi> crimsun, default from 5.10, but everything is unchecked except: # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[12:23] <visit0r> crimsun: well, alsa has this nice feature of needing the libs at least as new as the drivers to get everything to work properly... I've always had problems with it. for example now my cards works perfectly except AC3 is broken.
[12:23] <deefzi> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[12:23] <speedy> crimsun, yes
[12:23] <jnk> rabbit, :)
[12:23] <eduardo> HI I AM FROM VENEZUELA
[12:23] <Martini> Kovecses: I have a modem with Internet connection and LAN card connected via crosslink cable to another computer
[12:23] <JaZy84> okay.. can i conver ccd/img to another format then?
[12:23] <clearscreen> gnomefreak I'll go try again.. thanks for your help.. see you in 30 mins I guess
[12:23] <eduardo> IS SOME THERE
[12:23] <jnk> eduardo, can you turn off the caps please ?
[12:23] <_jason> !es
[12:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> eduardo: Hi, I have a caps lock key too, but I don't use it.
[12:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:23] <speedy> crimsun, terminal..
[12:23] <gnomefreak> ok clearscreen
[12:23] <clearscreen> bb
[12:23] <crimsun> speedy: reboot and plug it in again after logging in
[12:23] <deefzi> eduardo, wow. i would've thought you were from italy.
[12:23] <speedy> alright
[12:24] <vincenz> thiis won't do:/dev/sda6       /windows        vfat    umask=022       0       0
[12:24] <Kovecses> Martini, ever hear of a router lol
[12:24] <Chris_Tucker> Shadyman, perhaps you didnt read my question, as that restrictedformats page says nothing about aacPlus. only aac. i need to know how to make apps other than VLC play aacPlus (and no its not a win32codec. i have those installed.
[12:24] <crimsun> visit0r: I don't know of any changes in -lib that would fix that
[12:24] <theverant> ivman is a daemon, so do I have to set it to start at boot time?
[12:24] <deefzi> crimsun, any idea?
[12:24] <Farris1> I've got an NFS export of a RAID50 on a breezy machine, mounted (over Gigabit Ethernet) on about 40 boxes. On the local machine where the export is, disk access rates are superb. However, via NFS, they're terrible. Disk utilization shoots up to 100% with an average throughput of only 1MB/s. Any ideas what's causing this?
[12:24] <crimsun> deefzi: pastebin url?
[12:24] <deefzi> or should i _manually_ install all the true type -fonts
[12:24] <deefzi> crimsun, well... i'll put my sources.list online, 1 sec.
[12:25] <visit0r> crimsun: it's not broken... alsa just needs the lib to be as new or never than the driver...
[12:25] <plugwash> whats the reccomended way to create a ubuntu chroot on an existing debian system?
[12:25] <marlun> When trying to do /.configure in the php5 source-code directory I get the error: "configure: error: Cannot find MySQL header files under yes." and then under that it says: "Note that the MySQL client library is not bundled anymore!" Anyone who can give me some tips? =)
[12:25] <visit0r> crimsun: so if I want to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.15 (like I did), I need to get also a never -lib for everything to function properly
[12:25] <xiaogil> bshumate: yes, php-gd works fine! and now I even have php5, thanks a lot!
[12:25] <vuz> what's the command that shows you the graphic card?
[12:25] <crimsun> visit0r: that's recommended but not required
[12:26] <visit0r> crimsun: in my case it is required to get everything functionin properly, I, unfortunately, speak from experience :)
[12:26] <crimsun> visit0r: which test case?
[12:26] <jnk> vuz, lspci -v
[12:26] <bshumate> xiaogil: cool.  you should enjoy phpmyvisite, it's a nice package for checking out web analytics, and statistics! ;-)
[12:26] <Martini> Kovecses: Yes, sir! But it's too expensive for me:(
[12:27] <Steven_M> crimsun: oh ok thank you, now I understand that bit. Are there any drawbacks to running sudo -i as opposed to sudo su - ?
[12:27] <visit0r> crimsun: I have a SB Live! if that's what you asked.. I've had several problems with alsa previously (mostly in Debian Sid) and I've been told it's due to too old -lib and too new drivers. and they were correct.
[12:27] <crimsun> Steven_M: none
[12:27] <crimsun> visit0r: and which lib and which driver?
[12:27] <visit0r> crimsun: one of the problems was hardware mixing not functioning, the current problem is the AC3 passthrough device not working at all
[12:27] <Steven_M> thanks :-)
[12:27] <deefzi> crimsun, url is on /msg
[12:27] <vincenz> crimsun: it's set to defaults, how do I specify that I want users to be able to write to the partition
[12:27] <visit0r> crimsun: the driver in 2.6.15, the lib of Breezy
[12:27] <crimsun> deefzi: I don't receive msgs
[12:27] <vincenz> in fstab
[12:28] <deefzi> crimsun, well http://krokolaattori.homelinux.com/~perttu/ubuntu_sources.list
[12:28] <crimsun> visit0r: meaning a 2.6.15 kernel (1.0.10rc3)?
[12:28] <visit0r> crimsun: anyways, I'll try 2.6.14 next to see if I'm lucky and get both my remote and sound card to work :)
[12:28] <visit0r> crimsun: correct. vanilla 2.6.15.
[12:29] <visit0r> crimsun: everything else works now but the ac3 output :I
[12:29] <crimsun> then you've hit the one corner case.
[12:29] <visit0r> crimsun: so do you think 2.6.14 could work?=
[12:29] <vincenz> found it
[12:29] <visit0r> crimsun: that's the oldest one with the remote patch in it
[12:29] <deefzi> crimsun, you got that?
[12:30] <trae> crimsun, howdy ;)
[12:30] <crimsun> visit0r: no, it'd be better for you to compile dapper's alsa-lib
[12:30] <trae> crimsun, don't need anything, just saying hello.
[12:30] <visit0r> crimsun: but this is not the first time I've come across this too old alsa lib problem, had it for long in the past. only in that case the hardware mixing was broken.
[12:30] <trae> *chuckle*
[12:30] <visit0r> crimsun: 2.6.14 has the same driver?
[12:30] <deefzi> trae, ye, he's already busy helpdesking us ;-)
[12:30] <crimsun> visit0r: no, it's older
[12:30] <trae> deefzi, he's the best. :)
[12:30] <crimsun> 'lo trae
[12:30] <visit0r> crimsun: but not "old enough" to work with breezy alsa lib?
[12:30] <deefzi> lo bob!
[12:31] <crimsun> visit0r: they match (1.0.9)
[12:31] <Steven_M> thanks fluvwell and Kovecses for your help as well :-)
[12:31] <cactii> bbl
[12:31] <trae> and working...
[12:31] <trae> heh
[12:31] <crimsun> visit0r: if you want to keep your current kernel (2.6.15), you may as well compile dapper's alsa-lib on your box
[12:31] <visit0r> crimsun: thus it could actually work? I prefer installing a new kernel to installing new alsa lib because I don't know how to roll a .deb without breaking the system
[12:32] <crimsun> deefzi: sec
[12:32] <Steven_M> I have to go now, bye all
[12:32] <soundray> By Steven_M
[12:32] <soundray> *Bye
[12:32] <Shadyman> bye Steven_M
[12:32] <crimsun> visit0r: it's pretty simple. sudo apt-get build-dep libasound2
[12:32] <wizardjames> i am on a duel boot,   i reinstalled windows and it messed up my MBR.   so i had to kinda reinstall ubuntu to get it back..but now i cant access windows.     what do i do to grub to boot into windows.
[12:33] <crimsun> visit0r: then download dapper's orig.tar.gz and diff.gz, apply it, then debian/rules binary
[12:33] <mwe> !tell wizardjames about grub
[12:33] <visit0r> crimsun: alright I'll take a look at the 2.6.14 first, but thanks a lot for the help.
[12:33] <mwe> wizardjames: I believe that has some info
[12:33] <michael> what's the web adress to get into firefox configuration?
[12:33] <sethk> wizardjames, you didn't need to reinstall ubuntu
[12:33] <soundray> michael: about:config
[12:33] <jnk> michael, about:config
[12:34] <michael> ty
[12:34] <sethk> wizardjames, now, you only need to add windows to the grub configuration file
[12:34] <sethk> wizardjames, before, all you needed to do was reinstall grub
[12:34] <wizardjames> ok..
[12:34] <crimsun> deefzi: yep, exactly what I said at the beginning
[12:34] <wizardjames> so..what do i do?
[12:34] <menko> hi people... how do I install a deb package that I've downloaded? I tried dpkg, but it didn't resolve the dependencies. I'm trying to install opera.
[12:34] <deefzi> crimsun, huh?
[12:35] <mwe> wizardjames: add the windows partition to menu.lst
[12:35] <crimsun> deefzi: you don't have multiverse enabled at all for breezy. Instead you have it enabled for breezy-backports. msttcorefonts is in breezy/multiverse, not breezy-backports/multiverse.
[12:35] <jnk> menko, after trying to install with dpkg, run: apt-get -f install
[12:35] <wizardjames> ok
[12:35] <mwe> wizardjames: you know how to do that?
[12:35] <JaZy84> okay fine.. can i mound the ccd/img ?
[12:35] <menko> It gives me this error. E: Couldn't find package opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[12:35] <deefzi> crimsun, okay. so what's the exact line i should add?
[12:36] <crimsun> deefzi: just append multiverse to the line that reads "deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe"
[12:36] <deefzi> ok
[12:36] <crimsun> deefzi: (i.e., deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse)
[12:36] <deefzi> thank you very much
[12:36] <soundray> menko, give dpkg the full path pointing to your opera deb file.
[12:36] <wizardjames> mwe i think..hold on
[12:36] <jnk> menko, try again from the start: download  the opera deb to some directory, then "sudo dpkg -i the_deb_file.deb", then "sudo apt-get -f install"
[12:37] <mwe> wizardjames: I believe there should be at least a commented example in the file already
[12:37] <menko> ok, I'll try that, thanks
[12:37] <yggdrasil> d
[12:37] <wizardjames> ok, let me look
[12:38] <mwe> wizardjames: back it up before changing it
[12:38] <menko> E: Couldn't find package
[12:38] <menko> that's what it gives me
[12:38] <_xenex_> Anyone know any machines with a monitor I can buy prebuilt?
[12:38] <_xenex_> Anyone know any machines with a monitor I can buy prebuilt without Windows?
[12:39] <menko> dpkg -i /home/ubuntu/Desktop/opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[12:39] <menko>  first, then apt-get -f install /home/ubuntu/Desktop/opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[12:39] <soundray> menko, dpkg doesn't find the deb in the location that you've given it.
[12:39] <mwe> _xenex_: you can buy my old box
[12:39] <wizardjames> how do i backup again?
[12:39] <sethk> _xenex_, you can buy some laptops in europe without the o/s
[12:39] <_xenex_> no i want a new computer
[12:39] <_xenex_> europe is too far :P
[12:39] <soundray> menko, could you have downloaded to /home/ubuntu instead of the Desktop dir?
[12:39] <sethk> _xenex_, dell sells some machines with linux instead of windows
[12:39] <geoffrian> I am having trouble typing in a room name to join.  What is the syntax??? /join #????
[12:39] <Seveas> _xenex_, go to any nearby pc shop that builds pcs themself
[12:40] <sethk> geoffrian, right /join #ubuntu, for example
[12:40] <_xenex_> sethk: url? i couldnt find it
[12:40] <mwe> _xenex_: some stores offer custom machines and the option of not buying windows with it
[12:40] <MeanEYE> Lucent WinModem drivers, Ubuntu 5.10
[12:40] <menko> (Reading database ... 57018 files and directories currently installed.)
[12:40] <menko> Preparing to replace opera 8.51-20051114.6 (using .../opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb) ...
[12:40] <menko> Unpacking replacement opera ...
[12:40] <menko> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of opera:
[12:40] <menko>  opera depends on xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) | xlibs; however:
[12:40] <menko>   Package xlib6g is not installed.
[12:40] <menko>   Package xlibs is not installed.
[12:40] <menko>  opera depends on libqt3-mt (>= 3.3.4) | libqt3c102-mt (>= 3.3.4); however:
[12:40] <menko>   Package libqt3-mt is not installed.
[12:40] <menko>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[12:40] <menko> dpkg: error processing opera (--install):
[12:40] <menko>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:40] <menko> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:40] <_xenex_> http://www.koobox.com/multimediakoobox.php <- ive found this but i was wondering if there was better deals
[12:40] <Shadyman> !pastebin
[12:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:40] <menko>  opera
[12:40] <sethk> menko, so, install the missing dependencies
[12:40] <menko> that's what dpkg outputs
[12:41] <Seveas> menko, NEVER paste in here
[12:41] <JaZy84> aclocal-1.6: command not foundWARNING: `aclocal-1.6' is needed, and you do not seem to have it handy on your
[12:41] <mwe> menko: don't paste in the channel
[12:41] <gnomefreak> menko, please dont paste in here
[12:41] <JaZy84>          system.  You might have modified some files without having the
[12:41] <Seveas> EVER
[12:41] <dibblego> are there any obvious reasons why a default install would appear to be playing sound, but nothing comes out the speakers? I double-checked everything external by rebooting into windows and hearing sound come from the speakers
[12:41] <JaZy84> anyone know what the means
[12:41] <JaZy84> opps
[12:41] <JaZy84> sorry i just pated also.
[12:41] <JaZy84> i apoligize
[12:41] <sethk> JaZy84, never apologize when you didn't get caught
[12:41] <Shadyman> sethk: Bwahaha
[12:41] <JaZy84> heh
[12:41] <MeanEYE> Can anyone please tell me where can I download Lucent WinModem drivers for Ubuntu 5.10, breezy baddger?!
[12:41] <Seveas> JaZy84, install automake/autoconf/build-essential
[12:41] <Seveas> !winmodem
[12:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, winmodem is To get started with winmodems on linux, see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[12:41] <Shadyman> MeanEYE: Did you try Lucent? :)
[12:42] <soundray> dibblego, perhaps the volume is turned down.
[12:42] <menko> E: Package xlib6g has no installation candidate
[12:42] <set> !upnp
[12:42] <ubotu> set: What?
[12:42] <MeanEYE> Shadyman You mean their web site?!
[12:42] <menko> it won't installl...
[12:42] <soundray> dibblego, try a mixer, like gnome volume control.
[12:42] <JaZy84> thanks Seveas
[12:42] <Seveas> menko, get the etch deb, not the "ubuntu" deb from opera, that one is broken
[12:42] <sethk> menko, why do you want opera, anyway?  It can be installed, people do it all the time
[12:42] <set> Does anyone know a mp3 player for ubuntu that can stream from a TwonkyVision mediaserver?
[12:43] <cactii> Is there a w32 codec for the Ubuntu64???
[12:43] <menko> I always used opera on Mandriva, that's why I want it...
[12:43] <Seveas> cactii, W*32*
[12:43] <Seveas> kinda says it already...
[12:43] <sethk> menko, that doesn't make much sense.  Use the deb they pointed you to
[12:43] <menko> Seveas, I'll look for the etch deb
[12:43] <dibblego> soundray, I am trying an application called 'Sound Preferences' and I have turned all Volume Controls up and I can see the 'Volum Meter' give a reading when I play a test file in 'Sound Preferences'
[12:43] <cactii> haha
[12:43] <cactii> ok
[12:43] <Farris1> Are there any known issues with stock ubuntu kernels and NFS? I'm seeing terrible performance on this particular export that I'm not seeing on my old debian box
[12:44] <mwe> cactii: but I believe there are some restricted codecs for ubuntu64 somewhere
[12:44] <menko> I can't find any etch deb on the download page.
[12:44] <soundray> dibblego, do you have more than one sound card?
[12:45] <dibblego> soundray, no, just one
[12:45] <cactii> hmmm
[12:45] <jnk> dibblego, double check that both Master and PCM are not muted, and are not at zero
[12:45] <menko> Seveas, where is the etch deb?
[12:45] <dibblego> jnk, where is the master? I can see PCM under 'Volume Control'
[12:45] <jnk> dibblego, maybe check that you're controlling the alsa driver (one never knows)
[12:45] <JaZy84> Seveas, after installing all those things i still get the same error about alocal.m4
[12:45] <jnk> dibblego, can you run "alsamixer" in aterminal ?
[12:46] <soundray> menko, judging by the filename you gave earlier, you already have the etch deb.
[12:46] <dibblego> jnk, I'm too noob to know what that means sorry - I have 1 hour experience with Linux
[12:46] <Seveas> menko, deb.opera.com/opera somewhere...
[12:46] <dibblego> jnk, yes
[12:46] <jnk> dibblego, ok, what are you using? ubuntu with gnome? kubuntu ?
[12:46] <jnk> dibblego, alsamixer is ok ?
[12:46] <dibblego> jnk, ubuntu with gnome - a simple install off the CD ISO
[12:46] <Shadyman> dibblego: Don't worry, we were all there at one point :)
[12:47] <gnomefreak> i cant believe how slow this is :(
[12:47] <jnk> dibblego, if alsamixer works, you can see the master column, and the pcm column right?
[12:47] <dibblego> I see PCM, but not master
[12:47] <menko> Seveas, in the filename of the deb I downloaded it says it's etch
[12:47] <jnk> dibblego, ok it's just a different alsa driver I guess
[12:47] <sethk> gnomefreak, h  o   w     sl  o   w     w  h   a  t     i     s    ?
[12:47] <Poignant> oO
[12:47] <Shadyman> sethk: lol
[12:47] <gnomefreak> seth xp slow
[12:48] <cactii> Can I install any Linux 64bit video codec or does it have to be written specifically for Ubuntu???
[12:48] <jnk> dibblego, well just check all columns related to output are not at zero, and that you don't  have 'MM' at the bottom (but 'OO' instead)
[12:48] <dibblego> some of them are MM, but I'm struggling to change it
[12:48] <Seveas> menko, then it's a VERY old version...
[12:48] <jnk> dibblego, type 'm' :)
[12:48] <Seveas> !tell menko about easysource
[12:48] <dibblego> oh :)
[12:49] <dibblego> I hear something!
[12:49] <Seveas> menko, visit that url to get a sources.list line for opera
[12:49] <menko> Seveas, what's an old version?
[12:49] <wizardjames> mwe,  ok,    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7159 is what it looks like..     i dont know if thats were windows is..i am unsure how to look,    i got 2 harddrives,   ..  windows is on the first partion of the frist dirve, and ubuntu is on 2ed harddrive , 1 partion..
[12:49] <jnk> dibblego, what was the column which prevented output?
[12:49] <dibblego> I am now deaf - I had all volumes turned to full
[12:49] <jnk> lol
[12:49] <Shadyman> dibblego: Bwhaha
[12:49] <dibblego> 'Front'
[12:49] <soundray> Well done jnk :)
[12:49] <jnk> yeah
[12:49] <Paradosso> I have ubuntu breezy. would like to switch to kubuntu, is there a way for me to do it painlessly?
[12:49] <dibblego> thanks very much for that - appreciated
[12:49] <Shadyman> wizardjames: First partition of first drive should be hda1
[12:50] <sethk> wizardjames, if windows is on the first partition of the first drive, the example in the info page for grub tells you exactly what you need to put
[12:50] <soundray> Paradosso, 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[12:50] <Blippe> Paradosso, yepp, suda apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:50] <Shadyman> wizardjames: second har ddrive, first partition would be hdb1
[12:50] <Shadyman> wizardjames: Assumine it's IDE
[12:50] <jnk> dibblego, just wondering why you couldn't change it in the graphical interface... you opened the sound control from the panel on top of the screen right?
[12:50] <sethk> wizardjames, for grub, the first partition of the first drive is (0,0)
[12:50] <wizardjames> Shadyman,  , i use sata,   ubuntu sees it as scsi.
[12:50] <Blippe> Paradosso, i misspelled listen to soundray
[12:50] <mwe> wizardjames: then back up the file. then remove the # in front of the four linus in the windows example
[12:50] <Paradosso> many thanks soundray Blippe
[12:50] <sethk> wizardjames, doesn't matter, for grub it is (0,0)
[12:50] <Shadyman> wizardjames: That'd be different then :)
[12:50] <cactii> Can I install any Linux 64bit video codec or does it have to be written specifically for Ubuntu???
[12:51] <Blippe> cactii, i would advice against it... but try!
[12:51] <wizardjames> ok sethk  i will update grub with the new info and reboot
[12:51] <mwe> wizardjames: know what I'm talking about?
[12:51] <soundray> cactii, you can install any 64bit codec, but they are hard to come by.
[12:51] <Machiavelli|> hi, I just installed ubuntu but I cannot start X, how can I debug it to get it fixed?
[12:51] <dibblego> jnk, yes I did, but it had slightly different options
[12:51] <mwe> wizardjames: just uncomment what I told you
[12:51] <mwe> wizardjames: after backing up the file
[12:51] <soundray> cactii, your best bet is to set up a 32bit chroot environment.
[12:51] <wizardjames> mwe,  yeah,   i just copyed it and moved it down ..  and changed the name
[12:51] <mwe> wizardjames: good
[12:52] <Paradosso> may I uninstall GNOME after that Blippe ?
[12:52] <jnk> dibblego, can you check if you can change the device in the File menu of this sound control dialog?
[12:52] <mwe> wizardjames: the remove the # in front of the 4 lines in the windows example
[12:52] <cactii> oh man...this is difficult...
[12:52] <mkyb14> how do i enable linux-restricted-modules package... i have it listed in synaptic!
[12:52] <sethk> Paradosso, unless you have some severe need for disk space, don't uninstall gnome
[12:52] <mwe> wizardjames: the space at the beginning as well
[12:52] <dibblego> maybe it is the 'Change Device' that I should have used
[12:52] <wizardjames> mwe,  , i just copyed it and pasted it down below,   removing the #.  thats ok?
[12:52] <soundray> mwe, won't they be in the wrong place?
[12:52] <wizardjames> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7159 is what it looks like
[12:52] <Paradosso> why, sethk ?
[12:53] <sethk> Paradosso, all risk, no gain
[12:53] <jnk> mkyb14, can't you just install it like any other package?
[12:53] <mwe> wizardjames: yeah. I'd make a copy of the file first though
[12:53] <wizardjames> i did
[12:53] <Paradosso> how much disk space is gnome?
[12:53] <sethk> Paradosso, you need a reason to do something dangerous, not a reason to not do something dangerous
[12:53] <mwe> soundray: what?
[12:53] <mkyb14> i dunno... i just enabled the repository.. is that mean its installed?
[12:53] <jnk> dibblego, yes, if you can choose between OSS and alsa you should choose alsa
[12:53] <dibblego> jnk, there seems to be more options in alsamixer than 'Volume Control'
[12:53] <Paradosso> I dunno why it's dangerous
[12:53] <sethk> Paradosso, unlikely to be enough to make it worth uninstalling.  how much space do you have?
[12:53] <soundray> mwe, the grub lines for booting Windows.
[12:54] <Paradosso> 3.5 GB on the ubuntu partition
[12:54] <sethk> Paradosso, the reason there is a separate kubuntu install disk is that things are not as simple as you are imagining.
[12:54] <mwe> soundray: I think not. before the automatic kernel list
[12:54] <dibblego> alsamixer has: Headphone, PCM, Front, Front Mic, Surround, Center, LFE, Line
[12:54] <jnk> dibblego, in the volume control you can choose what to display in Edit -> Preferences
[12:54] <mwe> soundray: isn't that correct?
[12:54] <sethk> Paradosso, well, 3.5 gig actually probably is small enough to make it worth uninstalling
[12:54] <Paradosso> hehe
[12:54] <mwe> wizardjames: paste the new file before rebooting
[12:54] <Machiavelli|> can anybody
[12:54] <sethk> Machiavelli|, no
[12:54] <Paradosso> when is dapper set to be out?
[12:54] <Machiavelli|> guide me to where I can find help about X problem
[12:54] <dibblego> Volume Control has: Volume, Speaker, Line-in, Microphone, CD, PCM-2, In-gain (with all options selected in Edit->Preferences)
[12:54] <soundray> mwe, I've never tried -- always put them after. Looking at it, they should work just as well, however.
[12:54] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[12:54] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[12:54] <jnk> mkyb14, no it means you have access to packages there, if you want you can install them now
[12:55] <dibblego> wait, I think I am giving you false information
[12:55] <mwe> soundray: I think it should
[12:55] <Paradosso> maybe I'll switch to kubuntu when dapper is out
[12:55] <jnk> dibblego, and can you change device from the file menu?
[12:55] <dibblego> in AlsaMixer, the Chip field is set to "Realtek ALC880"
[12:55] <gnomefreak> and if im not mistaken thats what its set for may not be that date
[12:55] <mkyb14> so if i have the linux-restricted-modules package listed in my repositories.. does that mean that the restricted modules are installed
[12:55] <mwe> soundray: and also putting windows outside the automatic kernels section seems to make sense to me
[12:56] <soundray> mwe, that's what I mean, but I put them after the "END" line.
[12:56] <jnk> mkyb14, no, but it means you can install them, just select the package for installation and apply the changes
[12:56] <mwe> soundray: oh
[12:56] <cactii> XviD has a amd64 Linux 64bit port... does anybody know if this is any good???
[12:56] <mwe> soundray: yeah or berfore begin. same effect I guess
[12:56] <dibblego> if I set the device to "HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer) in the Volume Control, and turn on Edit -> Preferences, then it appears to be pretty muc hthe same
[12:56] <soundray> mwe, never mind, we'll find out if it hasn't worked.
[12:56] <mwe> soundray: yeah :)
[12:56] <mkyb14> hm i don't know which ones apply to ati 9800
[12:57] <sethk> gnomefreak, gnome is a bit lighter than kde, not dramatically, though
[12:57] <jnk> dibblego, so you still don't have a control for Front ?
[12:57] <sorush20> anyone here using showimg?
[12:57] <dibblego> jnk, yes I do now thanks
[12:57] <jnk> dibblego, ok :)
[12:57] <gnomefreak> sethk, true but if hes worried about disk space that much stick with gnome or use xubuntu :)
[12:57] <mwe> soundray: I told him to paste the file before rebooting though. but he seems to have missed it
[12:58] <KoruptPryde> gnomefreak, go for the best option..... console only   ;)
[12:58] <KoruptPryde> who needs x?
[12:58] <KoruptPryde> :)
[12:58] <sethk> gnomefreak, I don't disagree
[12:58] <gnomefreak> lol KoruptPryde its always good to have X use console to fall back on
[12:58] <soundray> gnomefreak, good one :)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:58] <Machiavelli|> I know no linux commands so X is a good start for me
[12:58] <Dead_Letter> :(   no ubuntu for sparc
[12:59] <Machiavelli|> would like to get X working ...
[12:59] <Paradosso> I'm not concerned with disk space, I have a 20G shared partition for data
[12:59] <soundray> Machiavelli|, what's the problem?
[12:59] <Paradosso> I am concerned with the fact that kde seems better than gnome for me
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Machiavelli|, i will always advise newbies to linux to use X while they get to know the commands
[12:59] <KoruptPryde> gnomefreak, my server is headless..... works quite nice that way
[12:59] <Machiavelli|> well, I just installed ubuntu, at end of installation I got error message that X could not load
[12:59] <Farris1> Regarding my NFS problem: I'm also seeing unusually high system load averages. Has anyone at all had these kinds of performance problems with NFS on a breezy system?
[12:59] <KoruptPryde> gnomefreak, just as long as they don't use xorg as a crutch
[01:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> .
[01:00] <soundray> Machiavelli|, any more detailed error info?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> KoruptPryde, true they need to use the terminal or its just like windows (in a way_
[01:00] <jnk> Paradosso, well if you prefer KDE by all means use it, that's what kubuntu is made for
[01:00] <vincenz> Anyone know what libraries I need to get sound from a movie with totem
[01:00] <vincenz> it works fine on my desktop
[01:00] <Machiavelli|> I can not find or open it
[01:00] <vincenz> but not on my laptop
[01:00] <KoruptPryde> gnomefreak, *shudder*
[01:00] <vincenz> I installed totem-xine cause totem-gstreamer wouldn't play it, but I'm not getting sound
[01:00] <firebird> you're lucky Machiavelli, all I could do when it attempted to start X was reset :p
[01:00] <Shadyman> ubotu tell vincenz about restrictedformats
[01:00] <soundray> Machiavelli|, are you IRC'ing on a separate machine?
[01:00] <meepy> Anyone can tell me why my BMP player suddenly stops playing when my CPU reaches 100% in a few seconds?  Thanks
[01:00] <mwe> soundray: just noticed a comment in menu.lst
[01:00] <mwe> soundray: # Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST
[01:01] <Machiavelli|> yes, and only one screen and keyboard
[01:01] <KoruptPryde> meepy, sounds like a sound daemon issue
[01:01] <soundray> mwe, ah, cool :)
[01:01] <KoruptPryde> meepy, but don't quote me on that
[01:01] <meepy> KoruptPryde: Hmm okay, you got any idea on how to solve?
[01:01] <Machiavelli|> I will try to get other screen, keyboard to get the ubuntu system next to me
[01:02] <Stormx2> I've completely given up on apache 2 ever working on this machine again :(
[01:02] <KoruptPryde> meepy, not the slightest..... I'd try other sound intensive programs and see if you can reproduce the same effect....... narrow down the possible causes
[01:02] <anamaria> any program in ubuntu similar with dc++?
[01:02] <jnk> Machiavelli|, you cannot use the console after the system has booted?
[01:02] <meepy> KoruptPryde: Okay, thanks. I look into it
[01:02] <soundray> Machiavelli|, what's your video card?
[01:03] <vincenz> Great thanks :)
[01:03] <vincenz> wow, I love ubuntu, the support with the bot is great :)
[01:03] <anamaria> any program in ubuntu similar with dc++?
[01:03] <vincenz> and the wiki pages are very well documented and everything works
[01:03] <mwe> anamaria: dc-gui
[01:04] <vincenz> anamaria: gtk-gnutella
[01:04] <anamaria> and a link?
[01:04] <mwe> anamaria: I think there's a dc++ version for linux somewhere too though
[01:04] <anamaria> to get it?
[01:04] <hippie23> I still cant get my $%$%! nvidia video card working
[01:04] <mwe> anamaria: sudo apt-get install dc-gui
[01:04] <Kovecses> anamaria, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[01:05] <Kovecses> whats dc-gui?
[01:05] <Martini> Is it possible to map network (UBUNTU) drive in WindowsXP?
[01:05] <mwe> anamaria: or rather sudo apt-get install dcgui
[01:05] <gnomefreak> the least it could have done was warn me :(
[01:05] <mwe> Kovecses: direct connect for linux
[01:05] <hippie23> I just did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop........ long download
[01:05] <anamaria> ok
[01:05] <anamaria> i'll try both
[01:05] <ulaas> Martini, share it in ubuntu.
[01:06] <anamaria> nut the latest version?
[01:06] <adub> hello i still do not have java working in mozilla/firefox though i installed it
[01:06] <Kovecses> hippie23, kubuntu-desktop installs all of kde ... do yes it is pretty big
[01:06] <joruss> anyone good with wifi cards? Got an orinoco card it's detected, but won't grab an IP from my router.
[01:06] <firebird> wow... I applied another theme and Synaptic dissappeared while it was in the middle of a download...
[01:06] <mwe> anamaria: ?
[01:07] <soundray> firebird, not to worry, it'll pick up where it left off.
[01:07] <Kovecses> adub, you must make a symbolic link
[01:07] <firebird> kay :)
[01:07] <hippie23> its still running.... been about 20 min
[01:07] <jnk> joruss, does your router use encryption?
[01:07] <hippie23> and im on 4meg cable!
[01:07] <joruss> yep
[01:08] <soundray> Machiavelli|, what's your video card?
[01:08] <marlun> how do I make "find" find only executables named apache2? If I do find -name 'apache' it finds more then executables.
[01:08] <Machiavelli|> Ive installed it on a hp dx5150, let me look up gc for that
[01:08] <cactii> How can I enable my C compiler to be able to create executables in Ubuntu???
[01:08] <joruss> I set the encryption level. For some reason I see my wifi card on the router, but the dhclient states it doesn't get an ip.
[01:08] <Machiavelli|> video card: ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 chipset met gentegreerde ATI RADEON 9600 video
[01:08] <gnomefreak> cactii, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:09] <soundray> Machiavelli|, you should follow the instructions that ubotu will tell you about:
[01:09] <soundray> ubotu: tell Machiavelli| about ati
[01:09] <cactii> thanks
[01:09] <jnk> cactii, you should just install the c compiler :) (that's gcc)
[01:10] <adub> Kovecses wehre is the java to symlink ln -s   dont know where it is
[01:10] <gnomefreak> jnk, i dont know what hes compiling :)
[01:10] <hippie23> how about getting openGL to work?... seens to have trouble, does it require a good video card?
[01:10] <joruss> jnk, has there been known issues with WEP encryption?
[01:10] <hippie23> im running intel i815 video now
[01:11] <Machiavelli|> thanks for links, I will try that, first find a second network cable to connect it to my router :)
[01:11] <hippie23> considering that my geforce4 flat refuses to run in linux
[01:11] <Kovecses> adub, link libjavaplugin_oji.so to the firefox plugins directory
[01:11] <jnk> joruss, well beside the fact that it's too easy to crack, some drivers can cause problems yes
[01:12] <jnk> joruss, anyway if you have problems setting up the connection you should first try without encryption (and without hiding the SSID of the router)
[01:12] <valberg> hmm... i can't get apache2 :S
[01:12] <Kovecses> hippie23, you didnt try hard enough
[01:12] <valberg> it says file not found...
[01:13] <valberg> anywhere else i can find it ?
[01:13] <mwe> marlun: find -name 'apache' -perm +111
[01:13] <ZarathustraDK> Hey again. Good news, I got sound on my tvtuner, bad news, it's all static noise. Is there a way to correct this?
[01:13] <nbound> hippie23, if ur using amd64 opengl tends not to work
[01:13] <nbound> hence why i dropped back to i386
[01:14] <hippie23> amd64?... I wish... this is only a p3 system
[01:14] <nbound> ohhhh
[01:14] <nbound> well as long as ur not using the crappy vesa drivers... you should have opengl
[01:14] <soundray> ZarathustraDK, have you got a picture?
[01:14] <ZarathustraDK> Yep
[01:14] <gnomefreak> hippie23, amd64 in linux world means one thing you can only run half the apps a i386 user can :)
[01:15] <hippie23> how do I check to see what driver im using?
[01:15] <jariep1__> do i need to remove GPL java before install ing Sun Java?
[01:15] <Kovecses> jariep1__, no
[01:15] <gnomefreak> gpl?
[01:15] <jariep1__> ok
[01:15] <hippie23> I would love to get my hands on an AMD optron or a PPC G5 system
[01:15] <soundray> ZarathustraDK, you may have the wrong TV standard set. If you're in Denmark (?), I think you want PAL/BG instead of PAL/I.
[01:15] <gnomefreak> thats a license
[01:15] <jariep1__> sorry
[01:16] <brimstone_> Can anyone point me to an Nvidia graphics driver how to?
[01:16] <Machiavelli|> how can I get my exact kernel version?
[01:16] <Kovecses> !nvidia
[01:16] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:16] <burn_> Machiavelli|, uname -r
[01:16] <Machiavelli|> thx
[01:16] <jariep1__> i meant the open source java that's instqalled in ubuntu
[01:16] <brimstone_> Sweet! Thanks!
[01:16] <Martini> Is there an address I can get SAMBA because I haven't UBUNTU Installation disc with me?
[01:16] <soundray> ZarathustraDK, the difference is the frequency offset for the audio broadcast.
[01:16] <nbound> brimstone_, the one in synaptic is much easier
[01:16] <gnomefreak> jariep1__, after you install java you want to run sudo update-alternative --config java to use the new java instead of the glc or gcl or whaterver it is
[01:16] <hippie23> how do I chec what video driver im using?
[01:16] <mwe> Machiavelli|: uname -a
[01:17] <marlun> Weird, I've got a apache2 in /etc/apache2, /usr/lib/apache2, /usr/sbin/apache2, /usr/local/apache2 and I've only installed the last one myself (from source-code), are they all different intallations of apache2?
[01:17] <ZarathustraDK> Wow, now that's sound :)
[01:17] <Telemachus> Machiavelli: type uname -r in a terminal
[01:17] <burn_> ive no sound with this card:
[01:17] <burn_> Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW
[01:17] <burn_> the Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRWright module seems to be loaded
[01:17] <ZarathustraDK> It works! You just saved my day
[01:17] <hippie23> thats what im using, my sound works great
[01:17] <burn_> alsamixer can tweack components of it
[01:17] <burn_> but no sound
[01:18] <brimstone_> Synaptic?
[01:18] <soundray> ZarathustraDK, glad I could help.
[01:18] <burn_> hippie23, you have the same?
[01:18] <deefzi> does anyone have good dual-booting tutorial for grub?
[01:18] <Chris_Tucker> well, this sucks. every player i find for linux that plays aacPlus streams has an error in it somewhere... vlc.. ugly and not a nice gui at all. winamp (under wine) stops playing after a few seconds.. lamip, complains it cant open the url, and gmerlin wont compile.
[01:18] <Kovecses> burn_, download alsa-utils from there website.. unpack into your home directory
[01:18] <keeganX> How do I change my sound from 4 channel to 5 channel using ALSA?
[01:18] <soundray> deefzi, ubotu does
[01:18] <hippie23> yes... it works just fine
[01:18] <gnomefreak> deefzi, yes install windows than install ubuntu :)
[01:18] <deefzi> i would need to check how the numbering of hd's goes
[01:18] <burn_> hippie23, very odd
[01:18] <soundray> ubotu, tell deefzi about grub
[01:18] <meepy> Chris_Tucker: Have you tried MPLAYER with a diffrent theme?
[01:18] <deefzi> gnomefreak, check, check.
[01:18] <nbound> brimstone_, ubuntu's package getting thingy
[01:18] <burn_> this is a new alienware area-51 m770
[01:18] <burn_> lappy
[01:19] <Martini> Is there an address I can get SAMBA because I haven't UBUNTU Installation disc with me?
[01:19] <Machiavelli|> Ow, I just realized I installed the PC (Intel x86) Ubuntu version and the HP dx5150 I install on has AMD64 athlon, could that be the problem?
[01:19] <Chris_Tucker> meepy, does mplayer play aacplus?
[01:19] <ZarathustraDK> Thank you so much :D 3 cheers to you
[01:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell brimstone_ about synaptic
[01:19] <deefzi> soundray, *bows*
[01:19] <brimstone_> nbound, Sweet. Thanks! Again!
[01:19] <soundray> deefzi, it's always the N-1 from hdaN
[01:19] <joruss> jnk, should my wireless be showing up as eth0? Running on a tablet with no other nic except wireless.
[01:19] <Kovecses> burn_, then run /home/you/alsa-utils/alsaconf/alsaconf.in
[01:19] <nbound> Machiavelli|, no
[01:19] <mwe> Chris_Tucker: mplayer plays just about anything with the right codecs installed
[01:19] <Corey_> Hey! Wow, Neat, there's... a lot of people in here.
[01:19] <Machiavelli|> so it should work with that version?
[01:20] <nbound> Machiavelli|, im running the i386 version on my AMD64 just coz its more compatible with everything
[01:20] <soundray> Machiavelli|, yes.
[01:20] <Chris_Tucker> mve thats the thing, if the right codecs were installed, xmms, amarok, and kaffeine would play it too
[01:20] <jnk> joruss, not necessarily, it depends on the driver
[01:20] <gnomefreak> ill brb im gonna put my foot threw this pos and pray i dont hurt the ubuntu drive :(
[01:20] <burn_> Kovecses, getting
[01:20] <jnk> joruss, it can be wlan0, ath0, etc...
[01:20] <burn_> Kovecses, is there no deb for this>
[01:20] <burn_> ?
[01:20] <bina> if I do apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop will it only get rid of gnome?
[01:20] <jariep1__> what is the java package at seveas repository called?
[01:20] <flogiston> i've got problems with starting/stopping samba
[01:20] <flogiston> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7160
[01:20] <Corey_> ( wow, and everyone here is nice, helpful and nerdy - i'm in heaven )
[01:20] <joruss> jnk, oh, I had always seen it as wlan0 so I wasn't too sure.
[01:20] <nbound> joruss, usually wlan0
[01:20] <Kovecses> burn_, you dont need to install anything ... you just need that script
[01:20] <mwe> Chris_Tucker: if they're using it. some players wont play everything just because the codec is somewhere
[01:20] <firebird> lol corey
[01:20] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[01:20] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop is probably a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.
[01:21] <nbound> Corey_, lol, u'll pick it up real quick and wonder why u ever needed us :P
[01:21] <hippie23> burn, actually its a lil different ---> 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio
[01:21] <hippie23> its till a 82801
[01:21] <mwe> Chris_Tucker: there seems to be a lack of centralization
[01:21] <Martini> Is there a way with sudo commands get SAMBA from Internet, not Installation CD?
[01:21] <bina> gnomefreak: in that case I think i may as well keep it :) thanks
[01:21] <bina> i keep forgetting ubotu
[01:21] <Chris_Tucker> mve, meepy, it seems mplayer doesnt like playing urls.
[01:21] <WalrusU> Level 6 noob with 83exp.  The process still keeps on going.
[01:22] <nbound> hippie23, isnt AC97 audio auto-detected?
[01:22] <Kovecses> Martini, comment out the cd line in  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:22] <keeganX> Anyone know how I can get 5 channel sound instead of 4 channel?
[01:22] <mwe> Chris_Tucker: but nothing will play it without the right codec
[01:22] <nbound> !tell Chris_Tucker about multimedia
[01:23] <jariep1__> how do i ask ubotu about java?
[01:23] <Chris_Tucker> mve, which seems impossible to find, i have found some apps that have the aacplus codecs with them, but one says "cannot open url" (appears to be thinking the http:// is in ./) and the other has a make error.
[01:23] <nbound> !java
[01:23] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jariep1__ about java
[01:23] <Kovecses> !java
[01:23] <ubuntu> hi can someone help me getting resoltion higher than 1024X768
[01:23] <burn_> son of a bitch
[01:23] <WalrusU> Does Ubuntu disable the kill command or something?
[01:23] <Corey_> Okay, I have a... long query.
[01:23] <burn_> KoruptPryde, thanks that did it!
[01:23] <burn_> oops
[01:23] <Corey_> Hah, I need mine at a LOWER resolution! :D
[01:23] <burn_> Kovecses, i mean, thank you
[01:23] <Kovecses> burn_, it worked
[01:23] <soundray> !tell ubuntu about fixres
[01:23] <bshumate> WalrusU: you may need to kill with extreme force, e.g. kill -9 <pid>    also, check the status of the process, with ps, if it is Z, it is a zombie process, and cannot be killed by conventional means
[01:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Corey_ about fixres
[01:23] <burn_> Kovecses, strange, that script runs on slackware by default
[01:23] <nbound> ubuntu, enable it in youll need to reconfigure x
[01:23] <KoruptPryde> burn_, I was wondering.... lol
[01:23] <burn_> Kovecses, yes it works perfect
[01:23] <menko> hey, what's a good program for editing services? The services under administration doesn't seem to have all of them
[01:24] <mwe> !fixres
[01:24] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:24] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:24] <Kovecses> burn_, yeah they dont include it in ubuntu ... for some reason
[01:24] <jared_> i got a new linksys wireless router with a cisco systems security thing, and i set it up and i can't get it to work, i had to go to my old router just to connect, it says i am connected but then i try to go somewhere i can't
[01:24] <Pygi> huh, freaky :P
[01:24] <burn_> thats odd
[01:24] <mwe> menko: update-rc.d
[01:24] <gnomefreak> hello Pygi
[01:24] <hippie23> wierd... my sound was working... until I installed kubuntu-desktop
[01:24] <burn_> Kovecses, i got this laptop yesterday for work
[01:24] <Chris_Tucker> nbound, well that was useless.. it says nothing there about aacplus!
[01:24] <hippie23> now I have no sound
[01:24] <gnomefreak> brb winblowz wants me to reboot again :(
[01:24] <burn_> i cannot believe how well ubuntu runs on it
[01:24] <sethk> hippie23, then it has to be your sound server config
[01:24] <KoruptPryde> jared_........ I might be able to help..... perhaps we should discuss in a seperate channel?
[01:25] <cactii> mpeg codec for 64bit????
[01:25] <sethk> hippie23, kde uses a different sound server
[01:25] <jared_> one moment
[01:25] <WalrusU> bshumate: Oh okay. I never knew there were levels to kill. Something else to add to my notes. Thanks
[01:25] <Kovecses> bbl
[01:25] <menko> mwe, thanks!
[01:25] <bshumate> WalrusU: no problem, check out man kill for more information
[01:25] <cactii> I installed the Xvid 64bit port... workds great for .mov files.
[01:25] <hippie23> im still using gnome, I havent rebooted, the install ended about 5 min ago
[01:25] <rabbit> Is it possible to print 'double sided'  somehow??   I tried "Duplex" in the config (I don't know what "Tumble" means)  I am using a network printer HP laserJet1012 and you need to manually rotate the paper and put it back in the tray when doing double sided..   is it possible to do double sided???
[01:25] <ki4ikl> KoruptPryde i pmed you
[01:25] <hippie23> brb... im gonna reboot
[01:26] <mwe> menko: I'd recommend reading the manual page though
[01:26] <KoruptPryde> ki4ikl, I got it... but I'm not authenticated.... can't remember my password and they don't have a recover option
[01:26] <deefzi> soundray, not much of a help those tutorials :I
[01:26] <soundray> rabbit, it depends on the application. Some allow you to print only even or only odd pages.
[01:26] <ki4ikl> Korupt what channel would you like to join
[01:26] <Delvien> Hey guys minor problem. reinstalled windows , reinstalled grub, now grub wont boot windows... anyone run into this? i select to boot windows and it sends me directly to grub again
[01:26] <jnk> rabbit, I guess you first print odd pages, then even pages in this case
[01:26] <Corey_> ubotu is a bot, isn't he?
[01:26] <ubotu> Corey_: I don't know
[01:26] <Corey_> I'm an idiot.
[01:26] <mwe> Delvien: fix menu.lst
[01:27] <soundray> deefzi, okay, what do you want to fix?
[01:27] <Corey_> A rather sophisticated one, at least...
[01:27] <mwe> Delvien: paste it on pastebin if you don't know how
[01:27] <jnk> rabbit, or you mean it's a problem with ubuntu, not the printer?
[01:27] <ki4ikl> KoruptidPryde what channel do you wish to join?
[01:27] <mkyb14_> uhh problem.  i'm installing the ati drivers and the screen doesn't fit my monitor and i can't see far enough down even moving the screen to diff resolutions to hit the ok button.  anyone know how to remedy this?
[01:28] <rabbit> jnk,  I just don't see a way to print odd/even pages seperately..   (I'm testing with gedit)
[01:28] <Delvien> mwe http://pastebin.com/506106
[01:28] <Corey_> mkyb14 - same problem as me!
[01:28] <Seveas> mkyb14, hold alt pressed while dragging the window
[01:28] <mkyb14_> ok one sec
[01:28] <menko> hi, I managed to install opera by adding those sources. When I start it though it gives me this error: Could not start plug-in executable 'operamotifwrapper'.
[01:28] <menko> /usr/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-3
[01:28] <menko> Please install Motif.
[01:28] <deefzi> soundray, i need to know how do the numbering goes? i want my windows 2000 booted from slave-hardware, which is on the same cable - ide-1
[01:28] <rabbit> soundray, yeah odd/even seperately would work..   thanks for the idea
[01:28] <nbound> should be hdb1
[01:28] <deefzi> soundray, so what's the number i put on root
[01:29] <mkyb14_> yep that worked
[01:29] <deefzi> ubotu, it is. but is it hd(1,0) or what?
[01:29] <ubotu> deefzi: what are you talking about?
[01:29] <moodsoft> hi all, I have my Ubuntu system running now, now I would like it not to automatically run X when I start. for Ubuntu how do I change the inittab file to make this happen?
[01:29] <hippie23> wierd
[01:29] <nbound> deefzi, first partition on slave drive on primary channel = hdb1
[01:29] <mwe> Delvien: it looks good, asuming windows is on the primary disk on the first ide and the first partition, /dev/hda1 usually
[01:29] <deefzi> oh wait...
[01:29] <Seveas> deefzi, ubotu is a bot..
[01:29] <vuez> what's the most secured kernel or perhaps newest?
[01:29] <hippie23> sound is back now
[01:29] <soundray> deefzi, most likely it's (hd1,0)
[01:29] <Corey_> Took me until just now to figure that out, too, deefzi, don't worry.
[01:29] <deefzi> whats the root then?
[01:29] <hippie23> skype must have hylacked the sound server
[01:29] <jnk> rabbit, then it's really stupid.. you should report a bug :)
[01:29] <gnomefreak> moodsoft, default install should start x on boot
[01:29] <sethk> moodsoft, unless you did something strange, that's the default behavior
[01:30] <keeganX> How do I get 5.1 sound instead of 4.1 sound on my Ubuntu?
[01:30] <Delvien> mwe i cant mount the windows partition either.. which is wierd ( its sda1 because its sata and its a laptop)
[01:30] <Martini> Kovecses: Thanks for support
[01:30] <deefzi> Seveas & Corey_, :-)
[01:30] <deefzi> soundray, okay. then makeactive & chainloader +1, what are they for?
[01:30] <mwe> Delvien: sound b0rked
[01:30] <Corey_> Alright, I need help. I'm a complete Linux noob, just recently got a Mac. I love it. I'm running Virtual PC 7, and have gotten Mandrake to run satisfactorily on it along with XP *shudder* and a couple other Windows versions. I created a virtual drive and got Ubuntu to install (after 5 hours ;_;), but it defaulted to too high of a resolution for my teeny PowerBook, so all I see are strange stripes - it's running! I just can't see shit. >.< Any
[01:30] <Delvien> mwe i booted to windows after i installed it, then shut down installed grub.. gave me a wierd text about XFS file system
[01:31] <rabbit> jnk, about gedit really?!   I can just copy paste into openoffice writer  ; )
[01:31] <mwe> Delvien: oh that sounds bad
[01:31] <Seveas> Corey_, virtual PC is not supported and known to cause such problems
[01:31] <moodsoft> I know that is default, but I want to change it, I don't want it to happen anymore
[01:31] <soundray> deefzi, for booting Windows :) It's always worked for me, so I never wondered much about the detail of it.
[01:31] <Corey_> Blast!
[01:31] <hippie23> yeah.. I want to know how to mount my windowsXP drive.... I have a ton of mp3's on that thing, I want to be able to play them in linux
[01:31] <Delvien> mwe and said it could ignore it, then booted to linux, and just now tried windows again
[01:31] <rabbit> jnk,  lemme see if I can figure this one out.......
[01:31] <vuez> what's the most secured kernel or perhaps newest?
[01:31] <Seveas> !windowsdrives
[01:31] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:31] <Corey_> But it installed just fine! I can watch it boot and its command line is just dandy!
[01:31] <deefzi> soundray, okay. i'm gonna choke your cat if this doesn't work. ;D
[01:31] <nbound> Corey_, u could use the PPC version of ubuntu
[01:31] <Corey_> *sigh* Oh well, it was worth a shot anyways.
[01:31] <KoruptidPryde> Corey_, I can recommend some things... but they are a bit out of the perview of *n00bness*
[01:31] <deefzi> soundray, and my data splash in to bit universe
[01:32] <bryanl> just curious... what are some of your favorite gnome apps?
[01:32] <Seveas> !tell KoruptidPryde about noob
[01:32] <soundray> deefzi, shall I send you my cat now?
[01:32] <Corey_> I did - the Mac version wouldn't even mount within VPc, so I used the Windows version.
[01:32] <mwe> Delvien: I'd try booting the windows cd and run fixboot and fixmbr from the recovery console. then reinstall grub
[01:32] <Corey_> It installed just fine.
[01:32] <vuez> what's the most secured kernel or perhaps newest?
[01:32] <jnk> rabbit, it's the gnome printing which is broken
[01:32] <SuperSam> how do i extract a .tgz to "/" in console under root priveledges?
[01:32] <deefzi> soundray, shove it in your rj-45 and dcc it to me
[01:32] <jariep1__> what is the name of the Sun Java package in Seveas repository?
[01:32] <deefzi> soundray, i long for some feet-warming
[01:32] <Machiavelli|> euh, does ubuntu has a default root password, I do not remember I had to type one during installation, just a normal user
[01:32] <mwe> Delvien: after verifying windows is working of course
[01:33] <soundray> deefzi, will /bin/cat be good enough?
[01:33] <Seveas> jariep1__, why don't you visit it and see for yourself :)
[01:33] <gnomefreak> Machiavelli|, default password is the user password
[01:33] <Delvien> mwe okie thanks.,.
[01:33] <Blippe> jariep1__, why not just search for sun in synaptic?
[01:33] <Delvien> ill be back :P
[01:33] <SuperSam> no machiavelli| use sudo -i in console
[01:33] <deefzi> soundray, :-/
[01:33] <bshumate> !tell Machiavelli| about root
[01:33] <vuez> what's the most secured kernel or perhaps newest?
[01:33] <deefzi> soundray, i had so high expectations.
[01:33] <Seveas> vuez stop repeating
[01:33] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas,  he said it... not me   :P
[01:33] <gnomefreak> 2.6.12-10
[01:33] <vuez> no answer :/
[01:33] <Seveas> everyday there's a new kernel, they're all about as secure as each other
[01:33] <vuez> Not this vanilla?
[01:34] <soundray> deefzi, back to the commands: you can use them generically to boot another boot loader installed in the boot section of a partition.
[01:34] <mwe> !tell vuez about patience
[01:34] <jnk> joruss, is your wireless connection working now?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> vuez, the latest stable ubuntu kernel is 2.6.12-10
[01:34] <vuez> thanks
[01:34] <deefzi> soundray, du-uh?
[01:34] <jariep1__> Seveas, why is the directory listing for the java packages not working athttp://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:34] <Machiavelli|> supersam> I did sudi -i but what am I supposed to type in now?
[01:34] <xenon_> i'm looking for the kernel source? where is it placed in the ubuntu file hiearchy? My /usr/src is empty
[01:34] <jnk> xenon_, you have to install the package
[01:34] <hippie23> im running 2.6
[01:34] <deefzi> soundray, the chainloader & makeactive thingies?
[01:34] <KoruptidPryde> Machiavelli|, you mean sudo?   :)
[01:35] <rabbit> jnk, genome printing is broken? how?
[01:35] <jariep1__> Seveas, it says forbidden
[01:35] <hippie23> I was running fedora core 1 befor ubuntu.... 2.4 kernels suck
[01:35] <deefzi> soundray, you mean like grub handles the control over to windows' MBR?
[01:35] <jnk> rabbit, if you can't print only odd or even pages
[01:35] <xenon_> jnk, thanks
[01:35] <SuperSam> your user password Machiavelli|
[01:35] <_jason> jariep1__, I think seveas needs to give you access
[01:35] <SuperSam> that gives you root priv
[01:35] <deefzi> soundray, sorry, the MBR of the hd in what my windows2k is
[01:35] <deefzi> soundray, you figured?
[01:35] <jariep1__> oh, ok sorry
[01:35] <menko>  hi, I managed to install opera by adding those sources. When I start it though it gives me this error: Could not start plug-in executable 'operamotifwrapper'. /usr/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-3
[01:35] <menko>  Please install Motif.
[01:35] <soundray> deefzi, not MBR, but the boot code that Windows dropped in its own partition.
[01:35] <Seveas> jariep1__, interesting, that would be a bug....
[01:35] <nbound> how do i add my extra programs to the menus in ubuntu?
[01:35] <gnomefreak> couldnt he just enable Seveas  repo?
[01:35] <moodsoft> anyone?
[01:35] <gnomefreak> menko, sudo apt-get openoffice-motif
[01:35] <Corey_> Alright, here's a question - can I change the resolution within ubuntu blindly using nothing but keystrokes? The UI is intact, it just isn't rendering right because the resolution is just too high (according to various VPC error messages when I try to view it full screen)
[01:36] <keeganX> How do I get 5.1 sound instead of 4.1 sound on my Ubuntu? thanks.
[01:36] <gnomefreak> install even
[01:36] <deefzi> soundray, alright. i think i'll give this a shot.
[01:36] <gnomefreak> or open synaptic and search for it
[01:36] <soundray> Corey_, try Ctrl-Alt-Keypad+
[01:36] <menko> thanks gnomefreak, I'll try that when I've finished dling the kernel
[01:36] <jariep1__> ok i'm a bit new to Ubuntu
[01:36] <_jason> gnomefreak, I don't I think I remember someone having that same problem and Seveas said he needed to give him access for it... I could be wrong though
[01:36] <Seveas> _jason, that was a long time ago :)
[01:36] <limer> anyone familiar with webcalendar?  I can't seem to access it in the browser as I don't know where/what to specify
[01:36] <nbound> keeganX, try using drivers provided by ur sound card manufacturer
[01:36] <attroja> Hm, is there anyway that I can add a terminal option to the menu when I right click the desktop?
[01:36] <Seveas> before there were mirrors
[01:36] <gnomefreak> _jason, i dont know
[01:36] <_jason> Seveas, ah true
[01:37] <hippie23> ewww... ill stick to firefox
[01:37] <nbound> how do i add my extra programs to the menus in ubuntu? anyone???
[01:37] <hippie23> opera sux
[01:37] <attroja> nbound: right click the menu bar (default top of screen)
[01:37] <mwe> hippie23: yeah kinda
[01:37] <Corey_> soundray, Keypad+? I have no numpad on my laptop. If the keystroke results in the + unicode (for me shift =), will that still work?
[01:37] <keeganX> nbound, alright..I just thought alsa had 5.1, but I guess not?
[01:37] <bosco> does anybody no any thing about the college distro to linux
[01:37] <menko> hippie23, right now I'm running firefox and thinking how sluggish it is
[01:37] <michael> I just installed cvscedega and can't figure out how to use it     http://pastebin.com/506119
[01:37] <gnomefreak> bosco, yes its not ubuntu ;)
[01:37] <hippie23> I lust tried opera.... it didnt load all of ebay.com
[01:38] <soundray> Corey_, no, in this case, use the Fn or whatever combination that gives you KP+ (or minus).
[01:38] <hippie23> just*
[01:38] <attroja> bosco: LormaLinux?
[01:38] <mwe> menko: sluggish?
[01:38] <mwe> menko: not here
[01:38] <hippie23> stuff was missing
[01:38] <KoruptidPryde> bosco, check the college linux website for their IRC channel... not to be rude... but there is a reason this cahnnel is called #Ubuntu
[01:38] <jnk> Corey_, your desktop is in english?
[01:38] <mwe> menko: lynx is faster though :)
[01:38] <bosco> ok
[01:38] <Corey_> jnk, yes
[01:38] <menko> mwe, maybe it's just that it comes with an older version?
[01:38] <gnomefreak> bosco, try distrowatch.com see what they have on it
[01:38] <hippie23> sluggish?.... firefox is a lot faster than IE any day
[01:38] <bosco> i will thank you
[01:38] <moodsoft> any ubuntu guru's here?
[01:38] <Corey_> soundray, okay, lemme do that (it's windowed right now)
[01:38] <nbound> keeganX, maybe it does... i dunno ive never used 5.1
[01:38] <jnk> Corey_, then tell me if the ctrl+alt++ doesn't work we can try something
[01:38] <mkyb14_> no arrr anyone ever get the ati drivers installed correctly.. i have a 9800 and the tutorial on wiki doesn't work or i'm just broken
[01:38] <mwe> menko: I use 1.5
[01:39] <attroja> Is there a way that I can add a Terminal option to the right-click-desktop-menu?
[01:39] <Corey_> jnk, okay, it's still booting though, i'll report as soon as it happens.
[01:39] <hippie23> linux + firefox = even faster
[01:39] <menko> mwe, by sluggish I mean it feels sluggish when switching tabs and some other small things
[01:39] <KoruptidPryde> moodsoft, dangerous question.... a lot of people like to think so
[01:39] <gnomefreak> hippie23, you want fast use w3m
[01:39] <santiago_> hi, does anyone is using 5.10 in a laptop? Is there any way to make ubuntu stop loking the screen every time I close the screen ?
[01:39] <visit0r> crimsun: does not seem to work with 2.6.14 either :I
[01:39] <hippie23> any radio hams in here?
[01:39] <Machiavelli|> I tried some things and now I see 'caught signal 4. server aborting' when I try startX
[01:39] <moodsoft> KoruptidPryde, yes that's probably true. fortuantly I know something about linux
[01:39] <soundray> hippie23, DG6YHS
[01:39] <hippie23> I need a good packet program for linux
[01:40] <bosco> all right i have one other question i have an inspirion 6000 and my hot keys on the outside work but not the play and stop and the fastfoward and stop but the volume up and down work what can i do to fix tha
[01:40] <mwe> menko: I didn't notice
[01:40] <hippie23> <--KD7DCN
[01:40] <menko> maybe it's just gtk is sluggish...
[01:40] <Machiavelli|> and also some stuff about ' no symbols found'
[01:40] <visit0r> crimsun: <IP_ADDRESS> seems to have 1.0.10rc1 ALSA, so I think the only way is to backport the alsalibs
[01:40] <KoruptidPryde> moodsoft, if you have a specific question I'll see what I can do for you.... if your nick is registered then PM it to me... I prefer to be able to track the conversation more easily
[01:40] <soundray> hippie23, haven't been doing anything for years... barely remembered my callsign :(
[01:41] <ki4ikl> what about callsigns, hamradio?
[01:41] <hippie23> im quit active on the airwaves
[01:41] <Corey_> jnk, soundray, I am at the login screen - I can read it enough to type in my name and password in the boxes, but the colours are negated and vague blue and white stripes adorn the screen to create any sort of UI. Is this the screen in which I press ctrl alt +, or should I log in and be at the desktop first?
[01:41] <attroja> Can I add a Terminal option to the desktop right-click menu?
[01:41] <ki4ikl> i am an operator
[01:41] <hippie23> I have 3 radios on rite now
[01:41] <hippie23> LOL
[01:41] <jnk> Corey_, I tink you can try now
[01:41] <soundray> Corey_, both should work.
[01:41] <Stormx2> hippie23: maybe ethereal?
[01:41] <Seveas> attroja, apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[01:41] <ki4ikl> i have one
[01:41] <gnomefreak> attroja, sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[01:41] <mwe> visit0r: what is this alsalibs problem? I'm using a 2.6.15 custom kernel and alsa works just fine ...
[01:41] <molinero> Hello to all
[01:41] <molinero> greetings from Mexico
[01:42] <gnomefreak> <<<miss spell natiluis 3 times :(
[01:42] <jariep1__> is there a n ewbie guide to using repositories in ubuntu and kubuntu and using adept?
[01:42] <gnomefreak> make that 4
[01:42] <molinero> I learning Ubuntu Breezy
[01:42] <limer> hi all
[01:42] <mwe> !tell jariep1__ about repos
[01:42] <visit0r> mwe: cannot use the AC3 passthrough device
[01:42] <attroja> gnomefreak: thank you very much.
[01:42] <rabbit> jnk, it doesn't seem like this is an option....
[01:42] <soundray> gnomefreak, AND you can't spell misspell :)
[01:42] <visit0r> mwe: otherwise it works fine
[01:42] <gnomefreak> yw att
[01:42] <mwe> visit0r: I see
[01:42] <bosco> how do i configure my hot keys in ubuntu
[01:42] <Corey_> jnk, soundray, Woah! It's still stripey, but black on white now and much easier to read. Still too big though, too... is there a next step?
[01:42] <primoturbo> What's a good bittorrent client other then Azureus for Ubuntu?
[01:42] <visit0r> mwe: but xine says that my device is occupied when I try to play a AC3 video
[01:42] <rabbit> soundray, jnk,   have you ever printed double sided?  do you know how?
[01:42] <nbound> welcome molinero =)
[01:42] <soundray> Corey_, yes, repeat.
[01:42] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:43] <jariep1__> mwe, thanks
[01:43] <gnomefreak> misspell
[01:43] <MeanEYE> I need driver or kernel module for Crystal CS4235 based sound card, (CS4236 does not work) on Fujitsu Siemens x400 (ISA Card)
[01:43] <mwe> visit0r: oh
[01:43] <Roots> primoturbo bittornado?
[01:43] <hippie23> I have been using KDE for years.... now I thing im becoming partial to Gnome
[01:43] <hippie23> LOL
[01:43] <Dead_Letter> definition of bored: when you start to CTCP version yourself.
[01:43] <primoturbo> anything else
[01:43] <gnomefreak> its windows messing me up
[01:43] <limer> anyone familiar with webcalendar?  I can't seem to access it in the browser as I don't know where/what to specify
[01:43] <primoturbo> don't like bittornado
[01:43] <damasta> bosco, system->preferences-.keyboard preferences
[01:43] <michael> nm, i got it
[01:43] <jariep1__> Seveas, thanks for pointing me to the Seveas repository yesterday
[01:43] <primoturbo> something similar to utorrent/abc or bitcomet?
[01:43] <bosco> ah will try tha
[01:43] <bosco> t
[01:43] <jnk> Corey_, you can try different resolutions... Desktop->Preferences->Resolution of something like that
[01:43] <soundray> rabbit, yes, I did it with my thesis. Had to mark a sheet to be sure which way it comes out of the printer...
[01:43] <mwe> visit0r: I don't seem to be able to find alsalibs with apt-cache at all
[01:43] <attroja> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:43] <attroja>  emacs21
[01:43] <attroja>  cedet-common
[01:43] <attroja>  eieio
[01:43] <attroja>  speedbar
[01:43] <attroja> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:43] <Roots> not that I know of. And I don't particular like bittornado either. It gets the job done, but the UI could be cleaner and torrent management could be more convenient
[01:43] <gnomefreak> :(
[01:44] <rabbit> soundary,  how do you do it?
[01:44] <mwe> attroja: don't paste in here
[01:44] <visit0r> mwe: it's libasound2
[01:44] <mwe> visit0r: ah
[01:44] <MeanEYE> I need driver or kernel module for Crystal CS4235 based sound card, (CS4236 does not work) on Fujitsu Siemens x400 (ISA Card)
[01:44] <primoturbo> what are the keyboard shortcuts to see process running and such
[01:44] <primoturbo> like ctrl + alt + del
[01:44] <jariep1__> I'm a bit of a newbie to linux so bare with me on some simple questions
[01:44] <visit0r> crimsun: dapper only has 1.0.9 for i386?
[01:44] <matthewjames> hey i have a huge problem!
[01:44] <soundray> rabbit, print odd pages, flip and reinsert printed stack, print even pages, done.
[01:44] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, please tell
[01:44] <primoturbo> how do I see how much ram I'm using?
[01:44] <rabbit> soundray,   how do you print odd pages?
[01:44] <Corey_> soundwave, jnk, okay, I can see well enough to read things, but it's still stripey and too large, and repeating that keystroke toggles between two sizes (too big and WAY too big). 'll see what I can do - at least I don't have to squint as hard. :D Thanks a ton. I'll give you guys an update in a few minutes.
[01:45] <nbound> people instead of talking about it, just ask =P
[01:45] <jnk> soundray, problem is gnome print doesn't even allow that it seems!
[01:45] <mwe> visit0r: do you think it would be hard to hand compile it?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[01:45] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:45] <soundray> rabbit, it depends on your application program.
[01:45] <mwe> visit0r: I'm thinking maybe I need it too
[01:45] <SuperSam> how do i extract a .tgz to "/"?
[01:45] <WalrusU> This is slightly offtopic, but does anybody know of anything that can convert Microsoft Works documents into Open Office? Nothing supports the frigging file format including Office, but there's a little old lady who keeps sending me stuff in works format (which one can open in text editor, but it loses layout information)
[01:45] <rabbit> soundray,   give me an example, what did you use?
[01:45] <mwe> visit0r: if I want ac3
[01:45] <nbound> corey... use the PPC version of ubuntu on ur mac =P
[01:45] <_jason> SuperSam, why would you want to do that?
[01:45] <SuperSam> im installing a program
[01:45] <MeanEYE> I need driver or kernel module for Crystal CS4235 based sound card, (CS4236 does not work) on Fujitsu Siemens x400 (ISA Card)
[01:45] <visit0r> mwe: I'm currently trying to roll a .deb with the dapper's alsalib in it (backport it to breezy), but I'm a bit lost (never backported anything before) here :)
[01:46] <MeanEYE> I need driver or kernel module for Crystal CS4235 based sound card, (CS4236 does not work) on Fujitsu Siemens x400 (ISA Card)
[01:46] <visit0r> mwe: is ac3 broken for you too?
[01:46] <_jason> SuperSam, to /''?
[01:46] <soundray> rabbit, I used lpr. It was in the olden days of the BSD print daemon.
[01:46] <gnomefreak> SuperSam, extract it in same place the tar is
[01:46] <nbound> WalrusU, make her upgrade works is ANCIENT
[01:46] <matthewjames> i made my partitians, and everything installed perfectly, but when after i logged into ubuntu, and typed startx, it would not start, something to do with x server, so i did crtl alt delete, and restarted. I went into windows, and i had to do a sysytem restore
[01:46] <halibut> Is there a 64bit kubuntu which is stable?
[01:46] <soundray> rabbit, what format is your document in?
[01:46] <mwe> visit0r: didn't try but I guess with a 2.6.15 kernel seeing what you said
[01:46] <SuperSam> i havent the permissions to
[01:46] <visit0r> mwe: hand compiling is easy, but I want a deb so it gets into the package manager db not messing the system
[01:46] <WalrusU> nbound: I know. And I've told her a dozen times now to use Save As... but like I said, she's a little old lady who doesn't remember.
[01:46] <SuperSam> i need to know the commands in console
[01:46] <iceraven> When I install games like nethack or crossfire, there are no icons in the menu how do I make a nice pretty icon for the games and programs I have installed using Synaptic?
[01:46] <_jason> SuperSam, cp the .tgz to your home directory and work with it there
[01:46] <visit0r> mwe: well it probably depends on the sound card you are using, I'm using SB Live!
[01:47] <Corey_> nbound, I used the Windows version because I want OS X to continue to work, and PPC on portables (PowerBook, iBook, etc) is entirely too difficult to do. Therefore I'm using the Windows version within Virtual PC - I would much rather have it installed independantly than as a Live CD.
[01:47] <rabbit> soundray,   any format..  I was just testing..  so how about openoffice writer??   odt ..  or gedit?  txt?   I can't figure out a way with either
[01:47] <soundray> rabbit, one sec...
[01:47] <kasemodz> anyone have a rtl8185 wireless card and has managed to install it/
[01:47] <kasemodz> ?
[01:47] <Corey_> **partitioning drives to dual boot PPC and any other OS on portables
[01:47] <nbound> Corey_, you could repartition though??? =/
[01:47] <_jason> SuperSam, tar zxvf /path/to/tgzfile
[01:47] <gnomefreak> _jason, how is he gonna get build-dep or build-essential without permissions :(
[01:47] <kasemodz> plz contact me
[01:47] <nbound> Corey_, then ud have OSX and ubuntu
[01:47] <matthewjames> gnomefreak: i made my partitians, and everything installed perfectly, but when after i logged into ubuntu, and typed startx, it would not start, something to do with x server, so i did crtl alt delete, and restarted. I went into windows, and i had to do a sysytem restore
[01:47] <SuperSam> ty jason
[01:47] <_jason> SuperSam, your sudo is broken?
[01:48] <MrPockets> there is no way to add songs to an Ipod in Ubuntu, is there?
[01:48] <mwe> visit0r: yeah. just ac97 here
[01:48] <SuperSam> nope
[01:48] <_jason> SuperSam, oh ok
[01:48] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, what was the error you got from X
[01:48] <Corey_> nbound, but I have no way to choose the boot - OS X overrides all startup disks on PowerBook G4s (won't let me boot from a CD, or into classic OS 9)
[01:48] <jnk> MrPockets, yes there is, like with gtkpod
[01:48] <visit0r> mwe: does it even support digital out?
[01:48] <SuperSam> Thankyou jason_
[01:48] <Corey_> nbound, not even in the system prefs
[01:48] <_jason> SuperSam, no problemo SuperSamo, sry I felt like writing that
[01:48] <kasemodz> anyone wanna help me install my wireless card
[01:48] <kasemodz> been trying all day
[01:49] <matthewjames> Gnomefree: something about xserver could not start, or sumthing like that
[01:49] <SuperSam> lol :P np
[01:49] <MrPockets> jnk,  thank you
[01:49] <mwe> visit0r: I think so. not sure
[01:49] <nbound> Corey_, format install ubuntu, then configure GRUB/LILO to allow u to boot OS X on another drive????
[01:49] <nbound> or another partition
[01:49] <flodine> anyone running any new cpus here like 64 bit or hyperthread?
[01:50] <jnk> rabbit, it seems in oowriter you can select only left or right pages if you want
[01:50] <nbound> flodine, i have an Athlon64
[01:50] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: something about xserver could not start, or sumthing like that
[01:50] <mwe> visit0r: I think I could manage to make a deb though
[01:50] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, you need to configure xserver  when you get back into ubuntu at terminal type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure everything that it says is correct than try to start X again might have to reboot
[01:50] <chuck> _jason, unable to mount drive, said file not found. I erased master and installed ubuntu also on master drive and that one would communicte with web and i have cable. this ubuntu says that its alwys online
[01:50] <rabbit> jnk, how?
[01:50] <flodine> nbound you have it running in 32 bit mode
[01:50] <visit0r> mwe: already doing it... nice to learn the process myself
[01:50] <_jason> chuck, okay so you are good to go?
[01:51] <nbound> flodine, yeah its more compatioble, i used to run AMD64 ubuntu though
[01:51] <jnk> rabbit, in the printing options...
[01:51] <chuck> _jason woops it wouldn't communicate
[01:51] <nbound> compatible*
[01:51] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, just for the record what vidieo card do you have?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> video :(
[01:51] <rabbit> jnk, can you be more specific?
[01:51] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: ati
[01:51] <jnk> rabbit, File->Print->Options, and unselect legt or gith apges...
[01:51] <adriyel> whats the name of the support channel for ubuntu? is this it?
[01:51] <Farris1> If I build a module from source, where should I place it so that a modprobe will find it?
[01:51] <nbound> adriyel, yep =)
[01:51] <_jason> chuck, so fresh new install and no internet, that is the problem you are having?
[01:51] <jnk> rabbit, that's left or right :)
[01:51] <adriyel> kkz
[01:51] <mwe> visit0r: yeah. I sometimes used checkinstall. then just ar x the deb and modify the version. makes it kinda easy
[01:51] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: but i cant get back into ubuntu
[01:51] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, you might want to look at the ati wiki also if that doesnt work
[01:52] <rabbit> jnk, i see ..   looks good
[01:52] <Corey_> nbound, I don't really have a good enough understanding of of OS X and partitioning, I suppose. :( Are there any safe, freeware resources you could point me to?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell matthewjames about ati
[01:52] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: but i cant get back into ubuntu
[01:52] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, why not?
[01:52] <chuck> _jason, yes only this one will communicate
[01:52] <rabbit> soundray,  jnk found it..
[01:52] <gnomefreak> grub doesnt open when you restart?
[01:52] <steve3902> Hello
[01:52] <bamm`desk> yay finished
[01:52] <bamm`desk> :]
[01:52] <adriyel> I have a question about my RAID array
[01:52] <_jason> chuck, I don't really nknow too much about troubleshooting that, someone else can probably help you out
[01:52] <nbound> Corey_, not really, i havent used macs enough... im sure there may be a walkthrough guide if u google it
[01:52] <adriyel> Ubuntu's installer doesn't appear to detect it properly
[01:52] <Corey_> Hey, my screen cuts off, but I can navigate the dropdown menus with the arrow keys - how many selections down from "Removable Drives and Media" is the display options?
[01:52] <adriyel> any ideas?
[01:52] <soundray> rabbit, ah, excellent. Well done again, jnk
[01:53] <Knowerrors>  Hey all, I just installed FF as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29, when I try to start it, it says there is already a Firefox running, which there isn't... any help?
[01:53] <Corey_> **in the System toolbar
[01:53] <visit0r> mwe: I'm trying the  make -f debian/rules binary
[01:53] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: when i logged into windows first time, i had to do a sysytem restore, i checked, and the parts are still ther, but when i restart, grub does not appear, and goes directly to windows
[01:53] <visit0r> mwe: I was suggested
[01:53] <_jason> Knowerrors, killall firefox-bin
[01:53] <adriyel> my RAID array is a 153-gig striped array of two hitachi sata-2 disks
[01:53] <silvio> hOla!!
[01:53] <menko> okay, about the opera motif issue, the linux kernel finished downloading. Is the package I'm meant to install called openoffice motif? I can't find any package with that name
[01:53] <kasemodz> alright i used the rtl8180 driver from sourceforge, made it into a deb, and installed it. then ibasically followed the insturctions. However, when I go to manually installing the modules it keeps saying that there is a unknown character in the module
[01:53] <adriyel> anyone tell me of a distribution that will detect this properly?
[01:53] <kasemodz> i dunno wut to do about this
[01:53] <mwe> visit0r: ok
[01:54] <chuck> _jason, i may need to erase both drives and start over, cause only one install will work online
[01:54] <mwe> visit0r: the debian guide is good
[01:54] <jariep1__> Seveas, I have a friend that gave up on linux because he had trouble as a newbie installing the ati drivers... He has an ATI radeon 9550 video card, do you have a driver prebuilt in your repository for this card?
[01:54] <adriyel> gnomefreak the system restore prolly killed GRUB dude
[01:54] <gnomefreak> adriyel, detect what?
[01:54] <adriyel> gnomefreak my RAID 0 array
[01:54] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: but grub does not appear
[01:54] <Knowerrors> _jason: like I said, there isn't any firefox running, I did a ps -aux and saw nothing
[01:54] <adriyel> NVIDIA SATA RAID 0 array of two disks
[01:54] <gnomefreak> adriyel, system restore doesnt kill anything he restored it to before grub
[01:54] <soundray> flodine, I run an Athlon 64 in 64bit mode.
[01:54] <nbound> jariep1__, yeah there is...
[01:54] <Unity> does anyone get this error when playing a movie with totem? "Failed to play: Internal GStreamer error: pad problem.  File a bug."
[01:54] <Knowerrors> _jason: killall firefox-bin firefox-bin: no process killed
[01:54] <_jason> chuck, that sounds a bit drastic.  Just explain everything again in detail but concisely and ask the channel.
[01:54] <jariep1__> ok thanks
[01:55] <adriyel> gnomefreak do you know of a distribution that will detect my RAID array then?
[01:55] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: but grub does not appear
[01:55] <gnomefreak> windows system restore is not a fix for anything people
[01:55] <jariep1__> Hopefully he'll give it another go
[01:55] <adriyel> Ubuntu doesn't seem to be capable
[01:55] <nbound> jariep1__, fglrx??? (I THINK)
[01:55] <Farris1> when you build a module from source, where are you supposed to put it so that you can modprobe it or load it at boot?
[01:55] <jariep1__> my friend that is
[01:55] <gnomefreak> adriyel, raid no i dont
[01:55] <jariep1__> ok
[01:55] <adriyel> does anyone know of a good distribution to use with a RAID array?
[01:55] <jariep1__> nbound thanks
[01:55] <ozzloy> what is the best way to get the mplayer plugin for 5.10 for firefox?
[01:55] <mwe> adriyel: ubuntu
[01:55] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: but grub does not appear
[01:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> .
[01:55] <gnomefreak> lol mwe
[01:55] <Seveas> jariep1__, the repository is browsable again :)
[01:55] <ozzloy> all the google pages are for 5.4
[01:55] <adriyel> mwe it didn't detect mine properly
[01:56] <adriyel> I'll attempt the install again, but I don't know that it would necessarily work
[01:56] <steve3902> does anyone in here know much about mprime
[01:56] <jariep1__> ok will take a look, thank you
[01:56] <soundray> matthewjames, try to spell his nick correctly and he may respond.
[01:56] <jariep1__> thanks Seveas
[01:56] <matthewjames> Gnomefreak: but grub does not appear
[01:56] <_jason> Knowerrors, erm that's strange.  Try a restart?  may be faster than guessing what's going on
[01:56] <mwe> adriyel: then problably other ones wont either. I believe there's a wiki
[01:56] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, restore xp back to this time not back in time and grub should open when you restart win sys restore covers things not affects them
[01:56] <nbound> matthewjames, u can use tab to go through available names after typing in a few letteres
[01:56] <Machiavelli|> how do I open and edit a file again?
[01:57] <_jason> Machiavelli|, gedit /path/to/file
[01:57] <gnomefreak> sudo gedit
[01:57] <Machiavelli|> thx
[01:57] <matthewjames> when it restored, i think it took the bootable flag off of ubuntu part, and onto ntfs part
[01:57] <mwe> Machiavelli|: gksudo gedit if it's a system file
[01:57] <kasemodz> hey jason have u ever installed a wireless card
[01:57] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, where did you put grub?
[01:57] <_jason> kasemodz, i have not, sry
[01:57] <matthewjames> i did not, it installed auto
[01:58] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, you choose wether or not you want it on mbr
[01:58] <kasemodz> ok anybody wanna help me install my wireless card? plz i beg
[01:58] <mwe> plz?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kasemodz about wireless
[01:58] <adriyel> ubotu tell kasemoz about wireless
[01:58] <Farris1> I upgraded my kernel, then had to rebuild the module for my RAID card. It's been a while since I did that. The module loaded, but where do I put the file(s) so that mentioning it in /etc/modules will load it properly at boot?
[01:58] <adriyel> crap.
[01:58] <gnomefreak> please mwe
[01:58] <matthewjames> then if i choos no, the when i restarted my comp, it would not have came up
[01:58] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah :)
[01:59] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, you didnt put grub on the mbr?
[01:59] <chuck> Ok, I have ubuntu on slave drive with communication online, then installed suse 10.0, it wouldn't communicate, ubuntu live will not work online, a second ubuntu install will not work, why only one install will communicate online
[01:59] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:59] <Eleaf> mmmmm
[01:59] <matthewjames> thats the question, if i did not, would it have came up, when i restarted my comp, and installed all of the other packages?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, put system restore back to the right date and time than reboot if grub isnt there you are no worst off than you are now
[02:00] <matthewjames> k
[02:00] <chuck> And I have caBLE MODEM
[02:00] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, grub should come up anyway
[02:01] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, think of sys restore as a lazy way to avoid a problem
[02:01] <soundray> chuck, how is your modem attached to the computer?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> etho???
[02:01] <chuck> usb cause my eternet card isn't working
[02:02] <steve3902> i have a strange problem, mprime a program used to test stability can run perfect on ubuntu weather or I use the livecd or install, but it cannot run on any other operating system unless I reboot from ubuntu into it!
[02:02] <kasemodz> alright plz in the future dont send me a bot
[02:03] <rabbit> soundray, jnk;        shucks.. you have to be SMART to use linux..   ( printing double sided:  print odd pages..  print even pages REVERSED and there must be an even number of pages to begin with!!)*    at least I think      *fineprint: every printer is different..    *sigh*       anyway, thanks guys, heh
[02:03] <chuck> soundray, USB
[02:03] <nbound> steve3902, if ur overclocking slow it down a little
[02:03] <steve3902> im not everything is stock
[02:03] <steve3902> it makes no sense to me
[02:03] <sethk> steve3902, I don't exactly understand your sequence.  also, you mean whether.  weather is when it's raining
[02:03] <nbound> steve3902, then why do u wanna mprime test it?
[02:03] <soundray> chuck, it's fairly typical that some distributions will autodetect a piece of hardware while others won't.
[02:03] <eno__> Hi.  Does anyone know the locations of the unstable repositories?
[02:04] <jnk> rabbit, really I think you should report a bug: https://launchpad.net/products/libgnomeprint/
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell eno__ about easysource
[02:04] <steve3902> yeah that was a typo
[02:04] <jnk> rabbit, you explain how hard it was... for such a simple task
[02:04] <eno__> thanks gnome freak!
[02:04] <rabbit> jnk, okay ;)   thanks for the link..  I'll do it now
[02:04] <ozzloy> how do i install the mplayer firefox plugin for 5.10?  googling is not helping
[02:04] <soundray> chuck, if it doesn't work in Ubuntu, you'll have to find the drivers and configure them and pppoe yourself.
[02:04] <chuck> soundray, both ubuntu installs are off the same CD
[02:04] <nbound> after ive downloaded the wine package... what do i need to do to set it up?
[02:04] <steve3902> i want to mprime test it because folding@home appears to crash every now and then
[02:05] <deefzi> where can i set what are functions of my extra mouse buttons? (mx518, 5 buttons.)
[02:05] <soundray> chuck, oh, and one works, the other doesn't?
[02:05] <Corey_> soundwave, jnk, nbound, thanks a lot for your help - there's a built-in OS X paritioner within the Disk Utility program in the Utilities folder in Applications - for future reference. I shall back up my files and successfully install ubuntu. Thanks again for your help! This was my first time on irc EVER, and I'm glad that everyone here is just so gosh darned nice. :)
[02:05] <chuck> soundray, that is correct
[02:05] <nbound> steve3902, well i spose u could try another stability tester
[02:05] <rabbit> jnk, I have to register to do this??
[02:05] <nbound> Corey_, no worries mate =)
[02:05] <soundray> Corey_, just don't call us nerdy again!  :)
[02:06] <gnomefreak> rabbit, register what?
[02:06] <steve3902> do you happen to know of any *nix based
[02:06] <sethk> steve3902, explain what exactly doesn't work.
[02:06] <rabbit> gnomefreak..  to post a bug here: https://launchpad.net/products/libgnomeprint/
[02:06] <Corey_> soundray: ONE OF US, ONE OF US
[02:06] <jnk> rabbit, it seems so... :)
[02:06] <gnomefreak> rabbit yes you do
[02:06] <visit0r> crimsun: debian/rules binary fails with "error: C compiler cannot create executables", but manual ./configure passes. any ideas?
[02:06] <nbound> steve3902, nope sorry... u could try a windows one with wine maybe
[02:06] <chuck> soundray, and both were set at always online
[02:06] <steve3902> alright
[02:06] <primoturbo> Gnome is seems very slow, what's a faster desktop environment that's not ugly.
[02:07] <gnomefreak> xfce
[02:07] <joruss> question,, which takes precedence in nic configuration. Network-Admin tool in Gnome or the iwconfig assignments?
[02:07] <primoturbo> xfce?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> fluxbox cant be ugly it has nothing :(
[02:07] <primoturbo> k I'll look into it
[02:07] <nbound> primoturbo, slow???
[02:07] <primoturbo> yup slow on a 1.6Ghz P4
[02:07] <soundray> chuck, can you find out in the install that works, what modules it loads for the modem. Then you can check for errors relating to loading that module in the other installation.
[02:07] <gnomefreak> xfce is a desktop enviornment
[02:07] <rabbit> jnk, you really think this can be fixed by gnome??   it seems like printing is unique to every application
[02:07] <sethk> visit0r, that's usually caused by the compiler not having write permissions in a directory.
[02:07] <nbound> primoturbo, it shouldnt be =/
[02:07] <sethk> visit0r, assuming the compiler is installed, of course
[02:07] <primoturbo> takes like 5 seconds to start a program
[02:07] <Hikaru79> I'm trying to install Java following the instructions I get on the wiki. However, I'm getting that "No matching plugin was found." error, and the solution on the wiki isn't working. Anybody have an idea?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> primoturbo, how much ram do you have?
[02:08] <primoturbo> always been slow for me, I guess I'm used to WinXP respensivness
[02:08] <primoturbo> 768 DDR RAM
[02:08] <_jason> Hikaru79, when are you gettting that error?
[02:08] <nbound> primoturbo, gnome is faster than XP
[02:08] <visit0r> sethk: manual ./configure works, so it's something special with debian/rules
[02:08] <sethk> visit0r, so in one case something is running with admin privileges and in the other it doesn't have the privileges
[02:08] <nbound> lol =P
[02:08] <Minsc> Howdy
[02:08] <chuck> soundray, I am questioning linux on HP, but i will need to find the driver files
[02:08] <gnomefreak> primoturbo, it should be faster than xp
[02:08] <visit0r> sethk: nope
[02:08] <sethk> visit0r, yes
[02:08] <primoturbo> nbound: Much slower in my experince
[02:08] <sethk> visit0r, the effective user ID is different at the time it runs
[02:08] <Hikaru79> _jason, when I do this: geoff@trademeet:~/archive/programming$ DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i386 fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-1.bin
[02:09] <Hikaru79> Right off the bat.
[02:09] <primoturbo> anyways I
[02:09] <jnk> rabbit, gnome applications can print through libgnomeprint, then if they improve libgnomeprint it will show in all those applications... the print dialog from gedit is typically a libgnomeprintui dialog (unless I'm wrong...)
[02:09] <soundray> chuck, really your best option would be to fix your ethernet.
[02:09] <visit0r> sethk: ok, I'll try with sudo
[02:09] <nbound> primoturbo, are u video card drivers for ur card or just the vesa ones?
[02:09] <primoturbo> currently vesa ones, but it's not the video I don't think
[02:09] <visit0r> sethk: no help.
[02:09] <rabbit> can I choose libgnomeprint when printing?  or is it done automatically?
[02:09] <sethk> visit0r, of course not
[02:09] <nbound> primoturbo, coz vesa tends to slow tings down
[02:09] <primoturbo> perhaps
[02:09] <sethk> visit0r, that's because it isn't being run by you, it's being run by the rules program
[02:09] <_jason> Hikaru79, seems like you made a typo
[02:10] <sethk> visit0r, strace it, see exactly what fails and in what directory
[02:10] <jnk> rabbit,  the application must be programmed to use the libgnomeprint library
[02:10] <primoturbo> I have installed drivers for my 9700 Pro before but it didn't seem to make the desktop faster
[02:10] <_jason> Hikaru79, from the wiki: DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i386-linux
[02:10] <Hikaru79> _jason, I know, I tried with i386-linux too
[02:10] <visit0r> sethk: I'll check config.log first :)
[02:10] <sethk> visit0r, but if configure works, obviously the compiler is installed and working correctly.
[02:10] <sethk> visit0r, ok
[02:10] <primoturbo> games ran fine, slightly lower fps then windows in Doom3 and Quake3
[02:10] <eno__> Hey Penguin Liberation Front, that's cool
[02:10] <nbound> primoturbo, install drivers for ur card and be amazed ;) and also u can use opengl games then =P
[02:10] <sethk> visit0r, brb
[02:10] <visit0r> sethk: /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2/libgcc_s.so when searching for -lgcc_s
[02:10] <primoturbo> I will, however I had some issues with video being pixelated
[02:11] <chuck> soundray, if that will even work, why only the first install works getsme, I appreciate your help!
[02:11] <primoturbo> is there a good guide
[02:11] <rabbit> jnk, in that case..   this (gnome team) wouldn't really help me
[02:11] <jared_> will someone kill ki4ikl, that is me,
[02:11] <primoturbo> for installing drivers for an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128mb
[02:11] <nbound> primoturbo, using drivers direct from ati or ones from synaptic?
[02:11] <jnk> rabbit, what's the application you need to print from?
[02:11] <_jason> Hikaru79, maybe they mean export DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i386-linux; and then do the rest of the line.
[02:11] <primoturbo> last time I had ubuntu it was from synaptic
[02:11] <Hikaru79> _jason, I'll try that :)
[02:11] <jared_> Seveas, will you please kill ki4ikl, that i sme
[02:11] <soundray> chuck, it's hard to tell unless you can pinpoint the specific point of failure and report an error message.
[02:11] <rabbit> jnk, open office and pdf files
[02:12] <nbound> primoturbo, try the ones from ATI maybe... but it will be a harder install
[02:12] <visit0r> sethk: not a permission problem, as running as a root didn't work either
[02:12] <GTroy> can anyone recomend a good file manager for e17?
[02:12] <chuck> _jason, thanks for everything you did to help!
[02:12] <ulph> I'm running Ubuntu 5.10 and I have a BJC 210 printer configured. It stalls after feeding the paper a bit. The last message in the log is "Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/canon (PID 13421) for job 10.". I can cat text files to /dev/lp0 and those will print. Any ideas?
[02:12] <_jason> chuck, yw
[02:12] <primoturbo> I've had ubuntu installed a dozen times but I've always went back to windows because it's been slower then windows
[02:13] <chuck> soundray, I'll let you know what i figure out
[02:13] <nbound> primoturbo, =/ thats weird its definately faster
[02:13] <Knowerrors> To anybody using FF 1.5, which of the 3 update methods in the wiki did you choose and why?
[02:13] <visit0r> nbound: not really... you note it with a low end computer. winxp is unfortunately more responsive in desktop.
[02:13] <jared_> Seveas will you please kill ki4ikl, that is me
[02:13] <soundray> chuck, I'll have to leave now, but there are always helpful people around as you know.
[02:13] <visit0r> nbound: with gnome and kde.
[02:14] <primoturbo> nbound: what are you computer specs?
[02:14] <jared_> thankyou
[02:14] <nbound> visit0r, he is using a P4 with 768 ram
[02:14] <_jason> visit0r, you've installed build-essential?
[02:14] <visit0r> nbound: ok then
[02:14] <visit0r> _jason: yes
[02:14] <jnk> rabbit, if you want to print pdf from acrobat reader, then you may have to print to a postscript file, then do something with command-line tools to get what you want. But the standard pdf view in ubuntu is Evince, and it uses the standard gnome printing. Also I would not be surpised if there are plans to integrate openoffice printing with gnome... And there's abiword for word processing too, which uses gnome printing...
[02:14] <chuck> soundray, thanks
[02:14] <ki4ikl> Who was it who was helping me earlier
[02:14] <visit0r> nbound: with a celeron 700MHz 196Meg there is a visible difference
[02:14] <lightbright> Seveas: you here?
[02:14] <Hikaru79> _jason, I get the same thing :( I know I exported right because when I echo the var, it returns i386-linux ...
[02:14] <nbound> primoturbo, my specs are A64-3000+ 1024ram and nvidia 6600, BUT it should be faster than windows on ur P4
[02:15] <nbound> visit0r, id imagine so
[02:15] <lightbright> i received an email: Accepted nautilus 2.12.1-0ubuntu1.2 (source).  So how can I now install this?
[02:15] <rabbit> jnk, hmm  i see..   okay, I'll suggest it..  just waiting for the reg email now...
[02:15] <visit0r> nbound: yeah, I should probably try that xdesktop thing
[02:15] <jnk> rabbit, thanks :)
[02:15] <nbound> visit0r, yeah a lightweight desktop would probably speed things up alot
[02:16] <ki4ikl> Who was it who was helping me earlier?
[02:16] <visit0r> nbound: yep, but does not help if there are heavy apps like firefox, not even mentioning openoffice, running :)
[02:16] <SgtGemini> Hello everyone.
[02:16] <ki4ikl> i mean just now
[02:16] <primoturbo> The problem is that I've used about 20 different linux distrobutions and they have all been generally slower or less resposive then Windows XP
[02:16] <_jason> Hikaru79, are you using 64bit?
[02:16] <visit0r> _jason: want to see the config.log?
[02:16] <Hikaru79> _jason, of course not ^ ^:
[02:16] <_jason> visit0r, I can take a look but I doubt I will be of much help
[02:16] <primoturbo> It's very noticable for the time it takes to start Firefox for example or when resizing a window
[02:16] <nbound> visit0r, yeah true
[02:17] <primoturbo> perhaps your computer is too fast to notice it
[02:17] <SgtGemini> I seem to be having trouble getting Ubuntu to boot. When I restart my PC and select "Boot from CD" it just boots windows anyhow. Any ideas? :(
[02:17] <lightbright> if I want to update nautilus, do I type: sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus && sudo apt-get -b source nautilus ?
[02:17] <aranis> SgtGemini: are you booting to CD? that's usually a bios setting
[02:17] <SgtGemini> I pushed F10 for boot options and selected "CD"
[02:17] <_jason> Knowerrors, chown before updating
[02:17] <visit0r> _jason: http://pastebin.com/506155
[02:18] <Knowerrors> _jason: and then chown back when done eh
[02:18] <tolstoy> Is there any way to adjust the video (as if via xorg.conf) on a Dapper Live CD?  I want to boot it to test if a wireless problem with the ipw2200 driver is fixed
[02:18] <nbound> SgtGemini, try changing the boot order in ur bios some bioses dont care what u press in that menu
[02:18] <_jason> Knowerrors, yep
[02:18] <nofx182> hey
[02:18] <SgtGemini> And last I checked it attempts to boot from CD by default
[02:18] <ki4ikl> Does anyone know who was talking to me a min ago, i can't find him, anyone please
[02:18] <nofx182> any one know any good mp4 converters for linux
[02:18] <lightbright> how can I upgrade to the latest Nautilus?
[02:18] <nofx182> or mac
[02:18] <SgtGemini> But thanks, I'll go recheck that.
[02:18] <jnk> lightbright, why would you compile nautilus yourself to update it?
[02:19] <nofx182> cant u use sudo apt-get install distupgrade or somthing like that
[02:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> .
[02:19] <nofx182> or apt-get distupgrade
[02:19] <nofx182> maby
[02:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:19] <Hikaru79> _jason, any other ideas? :(
[02:19] <nofx182> yeah there we go
[02:19] <visit0r> ki4ikl: KorupyPryde
[02:19] <ki4ikl> thankyou
[02:19] <lightbright> jnk: because a new nautilus is out and been approved as source!  FIXES the compression bug
[02:19] <metalhedd> I'm getting errors trying to remove upower,  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:19] <metalhedd> .  how can I get around this or force it to ignore the package?
[02:19] <lightbright> jnk: so, how can I upgrade to the latest Nautilus?
[02:19] <_jason> Hikaru79, you are doing this on a 386?
[02:20] <jnk> lightbright, you do "apt-get source nautilus" to get the source, and "sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus" to install pacakges necessary to build the source
[02:20] <Hikaru79> _jason, yes. The arch is right.
[02:20] <nofx182> dude if ur on 386 then do sudo apt-get install linux-686
[02:21] <nofx182> 686 is faster if u can support it
[02:21] <jnk> lightbright, check you're indeed downloading the latest source...
[02:21] <_jason> Hikaru79, do you *need* to build it?  There are ready-made deb's available
[02:21] <Hikaru79> _jason, there are?! Point me to 'em! :D
[02:21] <_jason> ubotu, tell Hikaru79 about javadeb
[02:21] <Hikaru79> (btw, this doesn't *build* java, just makes a deb out of it)
[02:22] <jnk> lightbright, well in short, you were right :)
[02:22] <Hikaru79> _jason, you *are* my hero. Thanks :D
[02:22] <Krelbel> Hey, quick question.  i'm running ubuntu 5.04 and following ubuntuguide.org
[02:22] <_jason> Hikaru79, wait until after it installs successfully ;o
[02:22] <Krelbel> and it says use
[02:22] <nofx182> any one here have problems putting vmware on 686 ubuntu
[02:22] <lightbright> jnk: lol
[02:22] <Krelbel> ## Backports
[02:22] <Krelbel> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[02:22] <Krelbel> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[02:22] <_jason> !ubuntuguide
[02:22] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[02:22] <Krelbel> but that messes up with apt-get update
[02:23] <_jason> ubotu, tell Krelbel about easysource
[02:23] <nofx182> my vmware wont install on 686
[02:23] <nofx182> any sugestions
[02:23] <Krelbel> ah
[02:23] <nofx182> asks where my make compiller is... because it cant pick the auto up
[02:23] <Krelbel> well i'm not using it much
[02:23] <lightbright> jnk: you do "apt-get source nautilus" to get the source, and "sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus" to install pacakges necessary to build the source???
[02:23] <nofx182> even though i have make installed
[02:23] <MrSunshi1e> humm, trying to setup a console based system on my laptop .. doesnt links2 exist as ubuntu package? :/Y
[02:23] <Krelbel> just trying to get the mplayer installed fine
[02:23] <matthewjames> how make this symbal |?
[02:23] <hzg> hi
[02:23] <ompaul> nofx182, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:24] <lightbright> jnk: I thoght I have to type make
[02:24] <nofx182> thx
[02:24] <Blippe> matthewjames, depends on where you are from and how your keyboard looks!
[02:24] <hzg> when i am compiling ndiswrapper 1.7 on ubuntu 5.10,but it failed
[02:24] <lightbright> jnk: is that same as: sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus && sudo apt-get -b source nautilus ?
[02:24] <Stormx2> ubotu: check the ubuntu wiki, ubuntuguide is a very bad place to get help >.<
[02:24] <ubotu> Stormx2: I think you lost me on that one
[02:24] <Stormx2> oops
[02:24] <matthewjames> usa
[02:24] <Stormx2> not ubotu
[02:24] <matthewjames> normal
[02:24] <lightbright> hzg: sorry to hear that
[02:24] <Stormx2> xD
[02:25] <Stormx2> Krelbel not ubotu
[02:25] <matthewjames> is it just a l?
[02:25] <Krelbel> ok, i'll check that when I get back
[02:25] <Krelbel> thanks~
[02:25] <Blippe> matthewjames,  no!
[02:25] <hzg> make ndiswrapper source 1.7, it show:Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build;
[02:25] <Blippe> matthewjames,  it is a pipe
[02:25] <SuperSam> If I have the gnome version of Ubuntu butdownload the KDE from synaptic, can I change gnome to KDE, and if so, how?
[02:25] <matthewjames> does u drive always get riped when u rezize it?
[02:25] <matthewjames> wiped*
[02:25] <Blippe> matthewjames,  where are you from?
[02:25] <matthewjames> use
[02:25] <matthewjames> usa
[02:25] <Stormx2> SuperSam: Log out, click "sessions", select KDE
[02:26] <SuperSam> thankyou storm
[02:26] <eno__> how do I tell what kernel I am using?
[02:26] <Stormx2> eno__: uname -a
[02:26] <jnk> lightbright, the only difference is the -b option to actually build the package after download, otherwise you have to manually run dpkg-buildpackage (you cannot just run make for a debian pacakge)
[02:26] <nofx182> uname -r
[02:26] <yeskhing> sup guys... how can i make XINE as my default player?
[02:26] <nofx182> i mean a
[02:26] <nofx182> sorry
[02:26] <Stormx2> is it -r?
[02:26] <eno__> thanks stormx2
[02:26] <Stormx2> oh =) good good
[02:26] <nofx182> i think its -r though
[02:26] <Blippe> matthewjames,  you get a pipe by pressing "alt gr" and '
[02:26] <nofx182> i dont know try it
[02:26] <eZe> I just installed wine with synaptic, but i don't know how to start a exe file
[02:26] <Blippe> matthewjames, it should be close to your backspace
[02:26] <matthewjames> Blippe: does your info in your partition allways get deleted when u rezize it?
[02:26] <Martini> Last problem - I must "sudo modprobe" my ISA LAN card to appear in "Networking" but every time I restart computer ISA LAN card disappears in "Networking" so I must "sudo modprobe" again. Is there a solution?
[02:26] <nofx182> if its exe its windows
[02:27] <nofx182> look for a ./configure
[02:27] <Blippe> matthewjames, no, depends on a lot of things
[02:27] <MrSunshi1e> anyone know if there is a links package for ubuntu ?
[02:27] <nofx182> then make then make in stall and so on
[02:27] <jnk> lightbright, so in my version you would not have buillt the package but you would have been ready to do so
[02:27] <nofx182> u eman for the os mr.sun
[02:27] <matthewjames> k, but can it?
[02:27] <nofx182> ubuntuguide.org
[02:27] <deefzi> is command "update-grub" really necessary to execute after editing menu.lst?
[02:27] <_jason> !info links
[02:27] <ubotu> links: (Character mode WWW browser), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 375 kB, Installed size: 936 kB
[02:27] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[02:27] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[02:27] <deefzi> afaik, no, but one page said yes
[02:27] <jnk> deefzi, not strictly
[02:27] <MrSunshi1e> humm
[02:27] <MrSunshi1e> cant find it
[02:28] <deefzi> jnk, what's the use of it? since every time i execute it, it overwrites my new menu.lst
[02:28] <Blippe> matthewjames, if it tells you that your info will be intact it will, if it tells you it will dissappear ti will...
[02:28] <_jason> MrSunshi1e, do you have universe enabled
[02:28] <Blippe> !repos
[02:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:28] <Blippe> !easysources
[02:28] <ubotu> Blippe: Are you on ritalin?
[02:29] <Blippe> !easysource
[02:29] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:29] <Blippe> ubotu, no we have been over this, it is crack!
[02:29] <ubotu> Blippe: what are you talking about?
[02:29] <matthewjames> Blippe; what if it does not say, like in ubuntu installer?
[02:29] <djbjrca> can anyone help mne with a microphone problme?
[02:29] <MrSunshi1e> _jason: aye, didnt find it with apt-cache search .. but if i just did apt-get install links it installed it :>
[02:29] <MrSunshi1e> mouse in the console? ... (no X)
[02:29] <jnk> deefzi, you can give information in commented lines in menu.lst which will be used by update-grub to generate noncommented lines. If you manually modify the auto-generated lines, your changes will be overwritten by the next update-grub. There's a special section in menu.lst for custom lines not managed by update-grub
[02:29] <nofx182> Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[02:29] <nofx182> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2". This configuration is not supported and VMware
[02:29] <nofx182> Workstation cannot work in such configuration. Please either recompile your
[02:29] <nofx182> kernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.plwith CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".
[02:29] <_jason> MrSunshi1e, lol strange... sure it wasn't a typo?
[02:29] <_jason> ubotu, tell nofx182 about pastebin
[02:29] <nofx182> i get that any sugestions ...for installing vmware
[02:29] <yeskhing> How do you update Firefox to the newest version?
[02:29] <lightbright> jnk: is that same as: sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus && sudo apt-get -b source nautilus ?
[02:29] <Blippe> matthewjames, is that what you are going to do, install ubuntu, or is it with a tool inside ubuntu?
[02:30] <lightbright> jnk:  yes?
[02:30] <Machiavelli> Hi, I have now installed ubuntu. I want to use it as a file server to replace our old NT4 server. I read I need samba for that.  Do I need to format a partition in fat32 on the ubuntu to put the files from the NT4 on it?
[02:30] <MrSunshi1e> _jason: tried a couple of times
[02:30] <nofx182> ...any sugestions
[02:30] <_jason> nofx182, install gcc-3.4 and use it
[02:30] <matthewjames> Blippe: 1 more question, can the files be deleted, by changing which partition is bootable?
[02:30] <deefzi> jnk, ok. so if i rarely update menu.lst it's not necessary to run update-grub or so
[02:30] <Blippe> djbjrca, what is the problem?
[02:30] <Farris1> Can anyone help me figure out why throughput via NFS is so slow?
[02:30] <Martini> Last problem - I must "sudo modprobe" my ISA LAN card to appear in "Networking" but every time I restart computer ISA LAN card disappears in "Networking" so I must "sudo modprobe" again. Is there a solution?
[02:30] <deefzi> jnk, or if i don't want it to autocreate anything for me
[02:30] <lightbright> jnk: so I can just type: apt-get build-dep nautilus && sudo apt-get -b source nautilus ?
[02:30] <nofx182> thx
[02:30] <MrSunshi1e> _jason: hapendt o know how yto get mouse in the console ? :
[02:30] <lightbright> jnk:  yes?
[02:30] <MrSunshi1e> :
[02:30] <Blippe> metthewjames, never happened to me...
[02:30] <djbjrca> Blippe, my microphone takes audio but i cant record in any application
[02:31] <ompaul> nofx182, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 but I think you know that
[02:31] <matthewjames> Blippe: thank you for your help?
[02:31] <jnk> deefzi, good practice is this: you run update-grub whenever you have changed something in the automatic config (the part of the config which is considered by update-grub)
[02:31] <_jason> MrSunshi1e, not sure what you mean?  I think you mean you want to click somewhere and make the cursor go there.  If that's what you mean, idk :P
[02:31] <lightbright> jnk: ??
[02:31] <jnk> deefzi, but anyway grub will just read menu.lst whether you changed it, or update-grub
[02:31] <jnk> lightbright, 2 secs
[02:31] <lightbright> jnk: ok :)
[02:32] <deefzi> jnk, so if i just edit the list of bootable operating systems, i would... or whatever. yeah.
[02:32] <deefzi> :P
[02:32] <MrSunshi1e> _jason: im not having X .. its posible to have mouse in the console i know that but i cant find for example gpm .. i think that is what usaly drives the mouse
[02:32] <Blippe> djbjrca, you must
[02:32] <djbjrca> yes
[02:32] <deefzi> jnk, i have grub on server and i used it once, so i'll give my intuition a chance
[02:32] <Blippe> :D
[02:32] <djbjrca> what?
[02:32] <nofx182> ok gcc-3.4 worked thx guys
[02:33] <_jason> MrSunshi1e, oh, I didn't even know you could do that
[02:33] <Martini> How to add a command for UBUNTU booting up?
[02:33] <MrSunshi1e> links is graphical also so i use that as graphical browser :
[02:33] <Blippe> djbjrca, you must choose the input in alsamixer
[02:33] <djbjrca> okay ill try
[02:33] <jnk> lightbright, the line "sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus && sudo apt-get -b source nautilus" means just this: execute "udo apt-get build-dep nautilus" and if it succeeds, execute "sudo apt-get -b source nautilus". Now as you can see the first command is exactly what I gave you as second command. The second command in your line is the same as my first, except for the -b option. So your line is exactly like running my two commands, then running dpkg-
[02:33] <jnk> buildpacakge (which does what your -b option does)
[02:33] <eZe> I still don't understand it, if I right click on an exe file, I can't find wine anywhere
[02:33] <Locke> does anyone know anything about Mozilla Thunderbird?
[02:34] <djbjrca> Blippe, what are the commands in alsomixer?
[02:34] <aphorism> greetz all.
[02:34] <jnk> deefzi, keep in mind that update-grub can be run "automatically", when you install a kernel for example
[02:35] <lightbright> jnk: ok after that what I need to do?
[02:35] <Blippe> djbjrca, press h to find out
[02:35] <djbjrca> thank you
[02:35] <MagicFab> Hello
[02:35] <Farris1> Is openafs stable enough to use in production under ubuntu?
[02:35] <Locke> does anyone know how to have Thunderbird minimize to the notification area?
[02:35] <jnk> lightbright, you should have a new nautilus-blablabla-something.deb file
[02:35] <duckx0r> how do I get into kde from the command line? startx doesn't allow me to select my destktop environment
[02:35] <Blippe> djbjrca, there are nicer gnome-tools to do this, but im on kde right now so i can't find it!
[02:35] <MagicFab> What would be an appropriate place to report LCD hardware support ?
[02:36] <jnk> duckx0r, if you have a terminal try "startkde" or something like that
[02:36] <Nihil_Influenzat> hi! i have a problem with an HarDsik because i surely did something wrong! i changed size of the partitions, i formatted and formatted again, changed FS many times... and now that partition is gone. How can i rescue data from that partition?
[02:36] <jnk> duckx0r, (that's after you've started X)
[02:36] <duckx0r> jnk, thanks
[02:36] <Martini> Where I need to add a command (for ISA LAN card detection - sudo modprobe) for booting up?
[02:36] <MrSunshi1e> ffs .. input doesnt work in links :>
[02:37] <Nihil_Influenzat> when i boot the pc, system tell me that there are some errors that i have to heal manually, mayb to run fsdisk
[02:37] <duckx0r> jnk, oh my crap... this is weird... i am simultaneously running kde within gnome
[02:37] <jnk> duckx0r, lol
[02:37] <duckx0r> jnk, i should take a screenshot
[02:37] <jnk> duckx0r, yeah
[02:38] <_jason> duckx0r, I'd like to see it lol
[02:38] <djbjrca> Blippe, my settings in alsomixer are correct and yet i stall cannot record
[02:38] <can-o-worms> what is nice little text editor with a gui for gnome?
[02:39] <Martini> What's the command in terminal to DELETE?
[02:39] <jnk> jnk, djbjrca what program are you using for recording?
[02:39] <djbjrca> audacity
[02:39] <jnk> can-o-worms, gedit ?