[06:25] <darwin> alpin on #ubuntu made false accusations and insults towards me when I didn't and was only trying to be helpful
[07:39] <r1911> hi why did somebody ban me from #ubuntu ?
[07:39] <el> because you were dragging other channel drama into there and also refusing to take offtopic stuff to an appropriate venue.
[07:40] <r1911> el: i stopped when somebody said to do it
[07:42] <r1911> el: can you remove the ban, please?
[07:44] <r1911> hello?
[07:47] <el> no
[07:47] <r1911> el: i stopped when somebody said to do it
[07:47] <r1911> el: so what's the issue?
[07:49] <el> the bit where i don't trust that you'll participate well given the behaviour that earned you a permanant ban which you alluded to.
[07:49] <r1911> el: you don't trust what i say?
[07:49] <r1911> el: why?
[07:50] <r1911> el: what permanent ban are you talking about?
[07:51] <r1911> el: you mean from #linux ?
[07:51] <r1911> el: it was about the chanop disconsented lying to me and me asking for nkukard's help in dealing with him
[07:57] <r1911> el: so you defend what a liar did to me and you are saying it was right for nkukard to ban me from #linux ?
[08:02] <el> oh, it's you.
[08:03] <r1911> what?
[08:03] <el> did we not converse in email recently?
[08:03] <r1911> i don't know
[08:03] <r1911> i don't recognize your nick and i haven't used e-mail here in libera
[08:04] <r1911> but i love irc
[08:07] <el> well you can love it elsewhere, i'm not removing the ban at this time
[08:07] <r1911> why don't you comment on disconsented and nkukard's weird behaviour ? what is this blame game?
[08:08] <r1911> so you just randomly pick on people?
[08:08] <el> "randomly"
[08:08] <r1911> yes
[08:08] <r1911> el: i stopped when somebody said to do it (offtopic chat)
[08:08] <el> that doesn't stop it having been harassment
[08:09] <el> so no i'm not removing the ban
[08:09] <el> please leave
[08:09] <r1911> what harrasment? telling the truth?
[08:10] <r1911> what you're doing to me now is harassment
[08:15] <el> no, what i am doing is setting a boundary in my role as a moderator of the #ubuntu channel.
[08:15] <el> the channel is not a thing you're entitled to.
[08:17] <r1911> so cool to meet a proper power tripping chanop
[08:17] <r1911> haven't seen those in a while
[08:19] <el> i suppose less than 5 days could include a period of time described as "a while"
[08:19] <r1911> no i meant when i used other irc networks
[08:20] <r1911> you know there are other irc networks than libera, right?
[08:20] <r1911> libera is the new kid on the block
[08:20] <el> feel free to return to them if you're not having a good time here.
[08:21] <r1911> oh i am, you seem to have some problems with how you chanop the chan
[08:21] <r1911> el: i stopped when somebody said to do it (offtopic chat)
[08:21] <r1911> do you understand that?
[08:22] <el> perfectly. however you're missing the bit where that does not absolve you of the harassment I banned you for, which the other person could not.
[08:23] <r1911> how is telling the truth harrasment?
[08:23] <r1911> disconsented _lied_ to me
[08:23] <el> and you're so fragile you need to go around to other channels telling them that?
[08:23] <el> for what purpose?
[08:24] <r1911> i really don't like people that lie to me, especially when he is a chanop in #linux
[08:24] <r1911> he should know better
[08:58] <el> tough. ban stays, please leave.
[09:01] <r1911> i'm fine, thanks
[09:01] <r1911> the issue hasn't been dealth with here
[09:02] <r1911> retaliation for criticism seems to be the common denominator here on libera
[09:03] <r1911> so moral so high ground
[09:08] <JackFrost> Right, you still got your answer, you don't really have to agree with it but that choice stands.  Anything else?
[09:15] <r1911> yes i'd like that you unban me from #ubuntu
[09:15] <r1911> JackFrost: you replied "right" so do you agree with me on the retaliation?