[12:00] <eggzeck> zcat[1] , I agree
[12:00] <zcat[1] > haha.. after hours trying to get MSIE downloaded and installed under wine, I see that winetools has it as an option.. one click!!
[12:00] <Senilix> ana86: does the file exist?
[12:01] <ana86> no
[12:01] <zcat[1] > almost all components or MSIE and wMP.
[12:01] <spikeb> zcat[1] : hahaha
[12:01] <Senilix> ana86: then add it with gksudo gedit /root/.smbcredentials
[12:01] <zcat[1] > linux is easy when you know where to find things..
[12:01] <zcat[1] > findingthings is hard :)
[12:01] <wendigo> zcat[1] : why on earth would you want to use IE ? :P
[12:02] <Senilix> ana86: and add contents according to -A in man smbclient
[12:02] <zcat[1] > wendigo: I devop websites. For some silly reason people insist that they work in MSIE.
[12:02] <wendigo> zcat[1] : fair enough :)
[12:02] <ana86> sorry, what?
[12:02] <Senilix> ana86: http://pastebin.com/708366
[12:02] <wckdkl0wn> i want to update ubuntu to make it kubuntu
[12:02] <ana86> thaks
[12:02] <wckdkl0wn> how do i go about doing that?
[12:02] <wckdkl0wn> what all do i put into terminal?
[12:03] <wendigo> wckdkl0wn: sudo apt-get install kbuntu-desktop?
[12:03] <wendigo> kubuntu*
[12:04] <Mortuis> I found via google that I can use "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb" to mount my usb flash drive, however this gives me read-only access.  Is there a way I can mount it so that users can modify the content of the flash drive.
[12:04] <Mortuis> ?
[12:04] <arrick> yes
[12:05] <cion> hey guys i need to use kontact with local language, how do I do that?
[12:05] <Senilix> Mortuis: does it give root read-only access?
[12:05] <arrick> chmod -R +w /mnt/usb
[12:05] <arrick> Mortuis, ^^
[12:05] <daryl> gnomefreak, i'm having a hard time understanding what to add in my repository.  is this it?  deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas java
[12:05] <Mortuis> Senilix: root has full access
[12:05] <Senilix> Mortuis: try sudo touch /mnt/usb/testfile
[12:05] <zcat[1] > arrick: don't guess..
[12:05] <kbrooks> arrick: wrong
[12:05] <rab> will dapper have this in it?
[12:05] <rab> http://torn.hyptonicfilms.com/blah.png
[12:05] <gnomefreak> daryl: just download the deb for java nad dpkg -i file.deb
[12:05] <Seveas> dark, try mirror.ubuntulinux.nl but otherwise correct
[12:05] <Seveas> daryl*
[12:06] <Senilix> Mortuis: look at the options for vfat i mount(8)
[12:06] <wendigo> Mortuis: an easy way would be to put an entry in fstab. sudo nano -w /etc/fstab
[12:06] <Mortuis> Ideally I'd like to be able to mount it with permissions for users so I can just put the commend in an icon I can double-click whenever I plug it in.
[12:06] <gnomefreak> rab: do you mean the program blender?
[12:06] <wckdkl0wn> ok after it is all set for kubuntu how do i update it with the newest updates
[12:06] <Mortuis> wendigo: It's one of those key-fob things, it isn't always in.
[12:06] <wendigo> Mortuis: thats fine it still works
[12:06] <Senilix> Mortuis: you know there exists automounters? :)
[12:06] <wendigo> Mortuis: i use it on mine
[12:07] <rab> gnomefreak, no different images for the menu bar, and the menu bar in windows
[12:07] <arrick> zcat[1] , kbrooks it worked on mine
[12:07] <zcat[1] > Mortuis: put it in fstab with the 'user' option.. that way any user can mount it and they'll have permission. also perhaps umask=0
[12:07] <gilianima> totem-gstreamer doesn't work, I get the following error msg: You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. when I load the file: http://www.tv-radio.com/ondemand/france_inter/13_14/13_1420060509.ram
[12:07] <gnomefreak> Seveas: /me scared to tell people to add your repos (i thought daryl was on dapper) i never know anymore
[12:07] <gilianima> despite that I have installed w32codecs
[12:07] <Bilange> who's the owner of ubotu's web interface? I think I found some minor bug...
[12:07] <Seveas> gnomefreak, breezy-seveas/java works on dapper as well
[12:07] <gnomefreak> rab: i havent seen it yet but i havent looked for it do you know the name of it?
[12:07] <Mortuis> Senilix: I don't see anything happen when I plug it in, so I figured any automounter wasn't working
[12:07] <Seveas> soon I have proper dapper repos
[12:07] <gilianima> someone knows that problem ?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhh ok ty Seveas
[12:07] <rab> gnomefreak, its int eh picture
[12:08] <rab> the*
[12:08] <wckdkl0wn> what do i change the repositories to so i can install more then whats there?
[12:08] <wendigo> Mortuis: /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat defaults,user,users 0 0
[12:08] <Senilix> Mortuis: ok.. well.. do like zcat[1]  told you :)
[12:08] <gnomefreak> rab: hold that thought looking again
[12:08] <zcat[1] > I should probably read up this stuff before I really screw it up :)
[12:08] <wendigo> Mortuis: then you can just do mount /mnt/usb as a user
[12:09] <wendigo> Mortuis: just add that line to fstab
[12:09] <gnomefreak> ok looks like the bender website is open in firefox on the gnome desktop
[12:09] <gnomefreak> blender even
[12:09] <rab> look at what i have circled
[12:10] <ompaul> R1CHARD, dapper working for you?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> rab: you have file edit view and so on circled
[12:10] <vmadmin> hello
[12:10] <wendigo> Mortuis: you might also consider using auto as the file system type, just incase it's not going to be fat
[12:10] <gnomefreak> and the web address
[12:10] <R1CHARD> las ompaul
[12:10] <Mortuis> wendigo: Okay, I added that to fstab.  Does that mean it'll magically mount when I plug it in now or I gotta issue a command?
[12:10] <R1CHARD> but, I need a stable version, no testing
[12:10] <rab> gnomefreak, yes.... look at the different images from the menu bar from the rest of the taskbar
[12:10] <Bilange> last-call repeating: who's the owner of ubotu's web interface? I think I found some minor bug over there
[12:10] <wendigo> Mortuis: usually you have to mount it manually, but try it anyway
[12:10] <_jason> rab: it will be stable in 2 weeks
[12:11] <cge> Does anyone know if there is a program like screen that does vertical splits instead of just horizontal splits?
[12:11] <ompaul> R1CHARD, well it will be stable in two weeks, otherwise you have to go back to 5.10
[12:11] <vmadmin> just set up postfix which is running but when i telnet from my machine connection was refused
[12:11] <wendigo> Mortuis: gnome might automatically mount it for you
[12:11] <gnomefreak> trab the little dot looking thing to the left of the webaddress?
[12:11] <ana86> wooo
[12:11] <ana86> its works
[12:11] <ana86> thakss!!!
[12:11] <rab> _jason, do you see what i mean?
[12:11] <ompaul> R1CHARD, the other option is update nothing for two weeks and then do updates or if something breaks see if there is a new version of it
[12:11] <gnomefreak> thats the only image i see
[12:11] <cge> vmadmin: you mean from the machine running postfix? Does smtp show up in netstat -lt?
[12:11] <_jason> rab: oops, that was a name-completion error
[12:11] <ana86> Senilix, thanks, i am new
[12:12] <wendigo> Mortuis: even if you have to mount it, it's as easy as doing: mount /mnt/usb
[12:12] <vmadmin> cge: http://pastebin.ca/54614
[12:12] <Senilix> ana86: you're welcome.. feel free to ask more if my answer didn't help you or if you have other questions :)
[12:12] <_jason> rab: I can send you a screenshot of what mine looks like... not sure what you mean
[12:13] <Industrial> nn
[12:13] <rab> h/o
[12:13] <Mortuis> wendigo: Awesome, that worked.  Thanks!
[12:13] <daryl> gnomefreak: i am on dapper
[12:13] <daryl> gnomefreak, should I not have installed that?
[12:13] <Mortuis> Senilix: Thanks
[12:13] <Mortuis> zcat[1] : Thanks
[12:13] <gnomefreak> daryl: no its fine contiune
[12:13] <wendigo> Mortuis: :)
[12:13] <rab> _jason, http://torn.hyptonicfilms.com/Screenshot-1.png
[12:14] <ana86> well i gona sleep, good nigths
[12:14] <cge> vmadmin: and when you telnet localhost 25 it is refused? Have you tried telnetting in from another machine?
[12:14] <daryl> gnomefreak, I installed it, but the java display still says "click here to download plugin" when browsing this page.
[12:14] <gnomefreak> daryl: you dpkg -i it?
[12:14] <Mortuis> wendigo: do I need to do unmount /mnt/usb or will it take care of that when I pull it?
[12:14] <daryl> gnomefreak: java runtime environment is what i need
[12:15] <daryl> gnomefreak: yes
[12:15] <daryl> gnomefreak it had dependencie issues, that I resolved
[12:15] <wendigo> Mortuis: it should unmount it for you
[12:15] <Mortuis> wendio: thanks again
[12:15] <Mortuis> *wendigo
[12:15] <gnomefreak> daryl: type in terminal sudo update-alternatives --config java    than pick the number of the new java you installed
[12:15] <spikeb> daryl: you having problems with java and firefox on dapper?
[12:15] <_jason> rab: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i13728
[12:15] <daryl> spikeb: yes
[12:15] <spikeb> daryl: i did too
[12:15] <spikeb> daryl: and i couldnt figure it out
[12:15] <IceflamePhoenix> ok, in network settings, my wireless connecting isn't coming up, but, it works ok in windows, is that a driver issue?
[12:16] <rab> _jason, i cant see anything
[12:16] <spikeb> i noticed the JRE i wanted to use and FF were compiled with different versions of gcc though
[12:16] <mjr> IceflamePhoenix, highly likely
[12:16] <IceflamePhoenix> where's a good place to look for drivers?
[12:16] <daryl> spikeb: so your java not working?
[12:17] <R1CHARD> ompaul, the only that i can do, is nothing, and save a backup
[12:17] <rab> _jason, dont you see the different images on the taskbar?
[12:17] <daryl> spikeb: i do not want to use friggin ie...
[12:17] <gnomefreak> rab: we need to know what images you mean the space you have circled is blank if you look at his screenshot
[12:17] <ompaul> R1CHARD, it is an option
[12:17] <gnomefreak> daryl: run tthe command i gave you pelase
[12:17] <rab> _gnomefreak, LOOK AT THE PICTURE
[12:17] <daryl> gnomefreak: i did, and it came up with 3 options.  I wasn't sure what to pick.
[12:18] <mjr> IceflamePhoenix, probably you'd need ndiswrapper (though it really depends on what you got), see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[12:18] <gnomefreak> rab: i did other than the files the menu bar and the taskbar thats it
[12:18] <gnomefreak> rab: if you have it on breezy 10 to 1 its gonna be on dapper
[12:18] <vmadmin> cge: ok when i type local host yes thats ok when i type open mydomian  25 it says trying then my ip address but not connecting
[12:18] <_jason> rab: I can't tell what images you are talking about.  Here try this one: http://web-cygnus.sas.upenn.edu/~ribeiro/ubuntu/Screenshot.png
[12:18] <daryl> gnomefreak:       1        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.0
[12:18] <daryl> *     2        /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[12:18] <daryl>  +    3        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[12:18] <rab> gnomefreak, the taskbar is composed of 2 images
[12:18] <gnomefreak> daryl: its not installed
[12:19] <snooo> does anyone know how to change or remove a network place in nautilus? the UI is pretty inflexible once one is established
[12:19] <cge> vmadmin: oh
[12:19] <kane__> wendigo, thanx..
[12:19] <vmadmin> cge give it a go
[12:19] <daryl> gnomefreak, i'm just going to go add the deb to source list, brb
[12:19] <cge> vmadmin: have you looked in the config file to see if it is set to only listen on lo? That is quite possible.
[12:19] <ndazza> are there vim 7.0 debs yet?
[12:19] <rab> _jason, you cant see the different images from the gnome menu bar  "where applications places and system is" and the rest of the bar?
[12:20] <vmadmin> cge: which config file?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> no rab
[12:20] <gnomefreak> thats what ive been trying to tell you
[12:20] <azurehuesofblue> I think I'm being attacked by a turkish hacker am I loosing my mind or what?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> to the right of system there is nothing
[12:20] <rab> ....
[12:20] <cge> vmadmin: main.cf or master.cf, not sure.
[12:20] <rab> well i see different images
[12:20] <IceflamePhoenix> t/y mjr
[12:20] <snooo> anybody
[12:20] <snooo> ?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> rab: all we see is the ubuntu sign applications places and system
[12:20] <Senilix> vmadmin: master.cf
[12:21] <_jason> rab: I see the same as gnomefreak
[12:21] <vmadmin> cge: i think its main.cf but what am i looking for  please
[12:21] <daryl> gnomefreak: its add all sorts of other java packages.  i'll see what it does.  brb
[12:21] <astriskmanish> can any one tell me how to install kde on ubuntu
[12:21] <gnomefreak> hb daryl
[12:21] <_jason> astriskmanish: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[12:21] <rab> gnomefreak, right after system,it goes into a 2 TONE image , like the background. The menu bar is a 1 tone background
[12:21] <zcat[1] > bah; setup was unable to install all the components .. same old.. I was hoping it would work this time.
[12:22] <vmadmin> Senilis ok master.cf what am i looking for
[12:22] <cge> vmadmin: I'm not sure, unfortunately. I have never used postfix in ubuntu - I've only used in in Debian.
[12:22] <gnomefreak> rab: i dont see that but you can change the bar to be any color (if not most) and even kind of transpaernt
[12:23] <azurehuesofblue> theli.free.fr/packages/breezy/./Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[12:23] <azurehuesofblue> ???
[12:23] <rab> gnomefreak, this is hopeless
[12:23] <daryl> gnomefreak: is there going to be a problem w/the fact that i'm running dapper?
[12:23] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:23] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[12:23] <azurehuesofblue> I looked it up and it said something about turkish hackers lol
[12:23] <gnomefreak> daryl: not sure he said its ok so go for it
[12:23] <daryl> gnomefreak: thanks man
[12:23] <Senilix> vmadmin: (master.cf is for the process that listens to ports and controls all the other processes in postfix, while main.cf is the configuration file for all other processes)
[12:23] <gnomefreak> daryl: ompaul is right please ask all dapper related questions in #ubuntu+1
[12:24] <daryl> gnomefreak: i normally do, but its been dead lately
[12:24] <_jason> rab: if you make your terminal transparent does the menu stay grey?
[12:24] <cge> vmadmin: inet_interfaces maybe?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> daryl: im in there is you need help just type my name and if im here ill see it
[12:24] <gnomefreak> always better to ask channel not person so try them first
[12:25] <cge> vmadmin: yes, that looks like it could be the problem.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> _jason: it turns 2 tone here
[12:25] <vmadmin> Senilix: if i pastebin it can you take a look?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> since breezy (that ive noticed)
[12:25] <_jason> gnomefreak: in dapper it becomes transparent
[12:25] <Senilix> vmadmin: sure
[12:25] <gnomefreak> _jason: the menu items too?
[12:26] <vmadmin> cge: what is the problem?
[12:26] <_jason> gnomefreak: the background
[12:26] <Jazy84> hey guys i mounted a ntfs file system under /mnt/F and i can't read it with my user, i've done a chmod 777 /mnt/F and chown <userName> /mnt/F
[12:26] <Jazy84> any ideas?
[12:26] <cge> vmadmin: Is inet_interfaces set in main.cf?
[12:26] <_jason> gnomefreak: I'm just talking about applications.. places.. system menu
[12:26] <gnomefreak> _jason: thats what i meant the middle gets transparent but both sides stay same
[12:27] <vmadmin> cge: i will pastebin both files main.cf and master.cf
[12:27] <sameer> hi guys
[12:27] <cge> vmadmin: ok
[12:27] <rab> _jason, gnomefreak, www.torn.hyptonicfilms.com/FUCKINGMENUBAR.png
[12:27] <_jason> rab: language please
[12:27] <gnomefreak> rab: language
[12:27] <_jason> rab: did you see my question?
[12:28] <rab> just look
[12:28] <_jason> rab: I did, I know what you are talking about
[12:28] <gnomefreak> i see system and than just an offwhite to the right of it
[12:28] <rab> 2 tone
[12:28] <rab> if you dont see a change your blind
[12:29] <Spec> there are three tones in that picture?
[12:29] <zcat[1] > i see a change.. system is flat, the rest of the menubar has some slight shading.
[12:29] <rab> yea the image
[12:29] <Jazy84> damn i still get that it's read only even when i do chmod -R 777 dir
[12:29] <_jason> rab: it doesn't happen on dapper: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ribeiro/ubuntu/Screenshot-1.png
[12:29] <arrick> wow
[12:29] <rab> because
[12:29] <rab> its nto a different theme
[12:30] <rab> not*
[12:30] <rab> the menu bar on the taskbar always corrisponds with the ones in the windows. I wanted to know if i could change the menubar background in the taskbar and have the one in the windows a different background
[12:31] <_jason> rab: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ribeiro/ubuntu/Screenshot-2.png
[12:31] <rab> its not the same thing
[12:32] <andersbr> My employer says I need to upgrade to MySQL 5.0 (spatial indexing features).  How do I do that within the package management system?
[12:32] <_jason> rab: ? the menu bar is a different color and it matches
[12:32] <rab> tha uses a system background just with a modified color
[12:32] <azurehuesofblue> The "turkish hacker" idea isn't holding much water... could someone nice and knowledgable look at this code pleaze?? http://pastebin.com/708417
[12:32] <rab> use a theme with a image as a background
[12:32] <_jason> rab: link to one?
[12:33] <rab> http://torn.hyptonicfilms.com/Gray-Flat.tar.gz
[12:33] <Jazy84> can anyone please help on changing permissions on a mounted drive?
[12:34] <_jason> rab: yes, it still happens
[12:35] <rab> that sucks
[12:35] <_jason> rab: I'd say it is the themes fault
[12:35] <Jazy84> shouldn't chmod work?
[12:35] <Jazy84> >
[12:36] <rab> no
[12:36] <rab> i say its gnomes fault
[12:36] <_jason> rab: because with that theme, the menu list doesn't become transparent
[12:36] <rab> alway customibility
[12:36] <_jason> other themes do
[12:36] <rab> thats what linux is all about
[12:36] <rab> being different
[12:36] <wendigo> Jazy84: use fstab, or just the options switch of mount to specify user,users
[12:36] <splif> is anyone using apache2 on a ubuntu box?
[12:36] <Jazy84> alright
[12:36] <Jazy84> thanks
[12:37] <paladinhugo> splif, sure
[12:37] <paradizelost> rab: actually, i'd have to say it's about having something that tends to not BSOD
[12:37] <vmadmin> cge: i will leave it for now the master .cf and main.cf should be ok as i have saved then from a prevoius install a week ago the only diffrence is now i have ubuntu server instead of  full distro and vmware ports are open according to router so i am not sure  will try again perhaps tomorrow
[12:37] <paradizelost> and doesn't cost me $700 for the OS and the Office package alone..
[12:37] <splif> paladinhugo, do you know anything about transfer encoding : chunked?
[12:37] <cge> vmadmin: They are filtered according to nmap for me.
[12:38] <vmadmin> cge: what is filtered?
[12:38] <_jason> rab: compare: http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ribeiro/ubuntu/Screenshot-3.png http://www.sas.upenn.edu/~ribeiro/ubuntu/Screenshot-4.png
[12:38] <splif> does anyone know how to disable chunked tranfer encoding? i just built up a new web server and can't get it to send the content-length of a file.
[12:38] <cge> vmadmin: port 25. In fact, most things seem to be filtered.
[12:39] <cge> vmadmin: And I know my side isn't doing any filtering.
[12:39] <vmadmin> cge: how did you test it
[12:39] <cge> vmadmin: nmap
[12:40] <vmadmin> cge: if you look at the pastebin there are various things going on at smtp
[12:40] <paladinhugo> no splif, sorry
[12:40] <andersbr> Can anyone tell me if fakeroot can be used for installing things other than Sun's JVM?
[12:40] <rab> yea?
[12:41] <cge> vmadmin: strange.
[12:41] <_jason> rab: gray-flat is not allowing for transparency
[12:41] <vmadmin> cge; i will shutdown  and try again
[12:41] <Senilix> andersbr: fakeroot (1)         - run a command in an environment faking root privileges for file manipulation
[12:41] <cge> vmadmin: ok
[12:41] <vmadmin> cge: give me a few mins
[12:41] <scsihead> any ideas why a SCSI disk would be detected as only 512 BYTES (i assume thats the blocksize of the device).. or alternatively as a 512 byte disk and 4 seperate 1.1gb disks if multiple LUNs are turned on in BIOS? (on an adaptec 8945 host)
[12:41] <capiCrimm> argh, damn sudo. I just changed my user group and forgot I had to add sudoers or whatever to the list... any workarounds?
[12:41] <Senilix> andersbr: have a look at installwatch
[12:42] <_jason> capiCrimm: reboot in recovery mode and add yourself to the admin group
[12:42] <cge> capiCrimm: booting into single user
[12:42] <capiCrimm> _jason, recovery mode gives me root?
[12:42] <_jason> capiCrimm: yes
[12:43] <_jason> capiCrimm: adduser your_username admin   <-- that's the command you want
[12:45] <capiCrimm> _jason, done, thanks. I'll have to be more careful to remember when I'm on deb and when I'm on ubuntu.
[12:46] <theCore> splif: which version of apache are you running?
[12:46] <splif> theCore: apache 2.2
[12:47] <theCore> splif: can you pastebin an example of your server header?
[12:47] <splif> theCore: where would I find that ?
[12:47] <Flannel> well, somewhere the net is dying.
[12:47] <Awesome-o2000> I have installed the drivers and reconfigured my xorg.conf, but I am still unable to load/use my fglrx driver. Can anyone help me figure this out please?
[12:48] <Awesome-o2000> I followed the directions on the ubuntu wiki
[12:48] <ompaul> Awesome-o2000, if you have done it correctly CTRL + ALT + Backspace after the choosing the correct driver and it should work
[12:48] <vmadmin> hi
[12:48] <theCore> splif: `nc localhost 80' in the terminal, then type "GET /" (without the quotes)
[12:49] <goonie> hey guys
[12:49] <Awesome-o2000> ompaul, ok, I'll give it one more try I guess
[12:49] <theCore> splif: HEAD actually
[12:49] <cge> vmadmin: Why do you have X11 running with tcp?
[12:49] <solid_liq> my apt-get won't upgrade or install any software.  It keeps giving me this error: http://pastebin.com/708432     and the suggested fix doesn't work.  Anyone know how I can fix it?
[12:49] <vmadmin> cge: the only thing that has changed is that now i have a static connection not DHCP
[12:49] <R1CHARD_0ff> tatiana+
[12:49] <vmadmin> no idea
[12:50] <ompaul> solid_liq, you did something and now it wants you to "apt-get -f install"
[12:50] <Senilix> HEAD / HTTP/1.1\nHost: hostname.tld\nConnection:close\n\n (where \n is enter) :)
[12:50] <cge> vmadmin: Is this just a default server install, or did you remove -nolisten tcp?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> solid_liq: yeah what ompaul said :(
[12:50] <solid_liq> ompaul: right, and apt-get -f install doesn't work either
[12:50] <vmadmin> vnc server xtightviwerer
[12:50] <scsihead> any ideas why an 8.6gb seagate SCSI disk would be detected as only 512 BYTES by the partition tool?
[12:51] <ompaul> solid_liq, okay so stick sudo in front of it >> sudo apt-get -f install <<
[12:51] <solid_liq> well, it does something, but it doesn't fix it
[12:51] <vmadmin> cge: no not to my knowledage
[12:51] <theCore> splif: bizzare, I don't the header too ... give me a sec to find this out
[12:51] <solid_liq> ompaul: I'm logged in as root :D
[12:51] <gnomefreak> solid_liq: what did it do?
[12:51] <splif> theCore: when i did get / it returned nothing and when I did a get head it returned a 400
[12:51] <vmadmin> i think ssh is ok
[12:51] <goonie> I need some advice. I need to ghost my hard drive onto a larger drive. I did this and I can't get grub to work again
[12:51] <cge> vmadmin: You really probably want to filter port 6001 then, since it is probably terribly insecure.
[12:52] <solid_liq> here's the end of what apt-get -f install shows me:      http://pastebin.com/708451
[12:52] <gnomefreak> solid_liq: what ubuntu version?
[12:52] <solid_liq> latest stable
[12:52] <gnomefreak> 5.10?
[12:53] <ompaul> solid_liq, no that is a dapper package
[12:53] <are> Problem with dapper on Thinkpad T40: while working in X everything hangs some milliseconds all the time (with some random time between). It seems to be Xorg that uses cpu (seen with top). Can anyone help?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> thats what i thought too
[12:53] <ompaul>  /mirror/dapper/pool/multiverse/libf/libfame/libfame-0.9_0.9.0-0.1_i386.deb
[12:53] <Spec> 9 hour day - i'm done.
[12:53] <gnomefreak> solid_liq: dapper isnt stable
[12:53] <gnomefreak> lol ompaul
[12:53] <eliyahu> Could I report a seemingly serious security bug (in Dapper Beta) here, or do you guys rather have a bug report (Ijust don't really feel like making an account)
[12:53] <solid_liq> ompaul: I have some sources which provide backports from dapper
[12:53] <gnomefreak> !bug
[12:53] <ubotu> bugs are reported to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[12:53] <vmadmin> cge ok i will look at that]
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ^^^ eliyahu
[12:54] <theCore> splif: ok, I got it
[12:54] <theCore> splif: GET / HTTP/1.1 (newline) Host: localhost
[12:54] <levander> has anyone ever gotten a response from reporting a bug on launchpad?
[12:55] <cge> vmadmin: Ok, I still see port 25 as filtered. Let me try from another system.
[12:55] <gnomefreak> levander: all the time you need to subscribe to the bug to get an email from it
[12:55] <_jason> levander: many times.  Why, what's up?
[12:55] <theCore> levander: I get an email, if there is any changes to the bug report
[12:55] <JaZy84> okay this is what i have in my fstab /dev/hdb1      /mnt/F           auto    user,noauto             0       0
[12:55] <theCore> s/I/You/
[12:55] <levander> i just reported that udftools doesn't work about a year ago, and never really got a response other than along the lines of "being looked into"
[12:55] <JaZy84> then in my bash_profile for the user i have mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/F
[12:55] <gnomefreak> levander: check the bug number in launchpad and subscribe to it if you havent already
[12:55] <theCore> splif: got it?
[12:55] <levander> gnomefreak: i did
[12:55] <JaZy84> but i still get access denied when it mounts
[12:56] <splif> theCore: after I did that its still waiting for input
[12:57] <_jason> JaZy84: why do you ahve auto and noauto?
[12:57] <theCore> splif: press Enter
[12:57] <JaZy84> not sure
[12:57] <JaZy84> was just googling
[12:57] <_jason> JaZy84: oh auto is the fs type
[12:57] <JaZy84> yeah
[12:57] <JaZy84> it's ntfs drive
[12:57] <_jason> ubotu: tell JaZy84 about ntfs
[12:57] <_jason> JaZy84: take a look at the permissions table on the wiki page ubotu just sent you
[12:57] <JaZy84> thanks
[12:58] <splif> theCore: alright I got the info, should I just paste it here or is there a better way for you
[12:58] <_jason> JaZy84: and is there any reason you have the mount command in your bash_profile?
[12:58] <JaZy84> no, i suppose not
[12:58] <theCore> ubotu tell splif about pastebin
[12:58] <cge> vmadmin: Hmm... I get port 25 as filtered everywhere I try - I've tried from <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, and my system here.
[12:58] <_jason> JaZy84: if you change 'noauto' to 'auto' it will mount it everytime you boot
[12:59] <JaZy84> but it will mount under root no/
[12:59] <JaZy84> ?
[12:59] <_jason> JaZy84: that's what the page I sent you is for
[12:59] <JaZy84> :)
[12:59] <sjbrown> what am i doing wrong here:
[01:00] <sjbrown>  if [ "s"="j" ]   ; then echo "asdf"; fi
[01:00] <sjbrown> the test is always returning true
[01:00] <zenit> you need some space around =, like if [ "s" = "j" ] ; then ...
[01:00] <splif> theCore, alright i pastebin'd it
[01:01] <cge> could someone else try telnetting into port 25 on vmadmin's system?
[01:01] <sjbrown> thanks.  knew it was something silly
[01:01] <zenit> no problem. Bash is very picky about such things.
[01:02] <cge> vmadmin: you probably need to check your firewall settings. What does iptables -L show?
[01:02] <vmadmin> cge: not sure yet will look into it
[01:02] <cge> vmadmin: ok
[01:02] <Elektrochelovek> iptable -L lists vats ir set
[01:02] <Elektrochelovek> *whats
[01:02] <Elektrochelovek> shows the rules
[01:02] <eggzeck> cge: it lists all rules
[01:03] <eggzeck> cge: you can use 'man iptables' to learn more about it.
[01:03] <vmadmin> cge; thanks for your support
[01:03] <cge> eggzeck: what?
[01:03] <eggzeck> :/
[01:04] <cge> eggzeck: oh I see. I  worded that in a rather ambiguous manner.
[01:04] <eggzeck> cge: haha.
[01:05] <cge> eggzeck: But vmadmin seems to have bigger problems than that. He says that the server install is mostly default, but X is listening on TCP, while most of the safer things (ssh,smtp) are filtered.
[01:06] <fourat> how to get vlc ? wich repositorium should i use ?
[01:06] <eggzeck> cge: ubuntu does not filter by defualt
[01:06] <crimsun> !info vlc
[01:06] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[01:06] <eggzeck> cge: make sure he has openssh-server installed
[01:07] <eggzeck> cge: that will allow others to ssh into his box
[01:07] <fourat> crimsun, i know it :)
[01:07] <fourat> just seeking for its deb reposito
[01:07] <eggzeck> cge: so he should: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:07] <splif> theCore: you still there?
[01:08] <arrick> anyone, where can I get universal free DNS IP addresses from?
[01:09] <eggzeck> cge: without openssh-server, if I tried: ssh -l <username> <ip> it would timeout or say connection refused.
[01:09] <arrick> I've been given a couple in here, but I need to put them into the new server, cause I am configging a WINSERV03 hd for work
[01:09] <cge> eggzeck: netstat -lt shows ssh, whereas nmap on my machine shows that it is filtered. But actually it appears he might be running under vmware!? Why didn't he tell me that. Oh well, he's left anyway.
[01:10] <eggzeck> cge: haha. But remember, ssh and ssh server are two diff things :)
[01:10] <cge> eggzeck: Yeah, but it is netstat -lt showing it as listening on *:22.
[01:11] <eggzeck> cge: well the port shouldn't be filtered by default. Either way he's gone :p
[01:11] <arrick> _jason, can yo uanswer my question?
[01:12] <gilianima> what is the command to know all packages containing the term gstreamer ?
[01:12] <_jason> arrick: if you count ``I don't know'' as an answer :P
[01:12] <arrick> haha ok _jason
[01:12] <sanzky> hi, does anyone here has installed fung-calc under dapper?
[01:12] <arrick> man where di DBO, IdleOne, and Bimberi go to?
[01:12] <Flannel> gilianima: apt-cache search gstreamer
[01:13] <ShellMaza> question, has any ever tryed to play unreal tournament 2003 on this?
[01:13] <eggzeck> gilianima: dpkg --list | egrep gnome.*
[01:13] <Flannel> arrick: whats the question?
[01:13] <arrick> I need DNS Ip addresses Flannel
[01:13] <eggzeck> gilianima: that is an example, make your own patterns given to 'egrep'
[01:13] <Flannel> arrick: you need a static IP address? or a DNS?
[01:13] <arrick> yeah
[01:14] <eggzeck> Flannel: oh I thought he meant those already installed :p
[01:14] <arrick> a DNS
[01:14] <Flannel> arrick: check out dyndns.org
[01:14] <arrick> Flannel, I want to just add additional DNS numbers to my server
[01:14] <Flannel> arrick: hmm?  Additional domains you mean?
[01:14] <cge> Flannel: I think he means more dns servers
[01:15] <cge> Flannel: ie, adding more to resolv.conf
[01:15] <arrick> flannel DNS server ip addys
[01:15] <arrick> yeah
[01:15] <arrick> thast it
[01:15] <fourat> !vlc
[01:15] <ubotu> I heard vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[01:15] <eliyahu> anyone with security access might want to see this bug: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/shadow/+bug/43906
[01:16] <arrick> anyone here with a router can give me their DNS numbers from the Connection Summary
[01:16] <arrick> please
[01:16] <ShellMaza> 1 sec
[01:16] <eliyahu> I would like to know if someone can reproduce that
[01:16] <cge> arrick: Usually those are only for the users of the ISP running them.
[01:17] <arrick> cge, nah their unuversal bouncers
[01:17] <ShellMaza> DNS 1
[01:17] <ShellMaza> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:17] <ShellMaza> DNS 2
[01:17] <ShellMaza>  <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:17] <ShellMaza>  DNS 3
[01:17] <ShellMaza> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:17] <arrick> thanks
[01:17] <ShellMaza> their
[01:17] <cge> eliyahu: I don't know that anyone here has security access.
[01:18] <eliyahu> oh well, then I guess I'll have to wait untill they check it...
[01:18] <Jazy84> can anyone point me in the right direction to get java installed?
[01:18] <Flannel> !java
[01:18] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:18] <fourat> can i use my debian's /etc/apt/sources.lidt file in ubuntu ?
[01:18] <Jazy84> thanks
[01:18] <eliyahu> it's a pretty severe issue thouogh if it also works on other stations
[01:19] <Flannel> fourat: technically, yes.  Is it a good idea to? no.
[01:19] <_jason> fourat: not safely
[01:19] <cge> eliyahu: Are you on dapper or breezy?
[01:19] <eliyahu> dapper
[01:19] <cge> fourat: no!
[01:19] <eliyahu> latest packages
[01:19] <cge> fourat: I just did it and it worked out very badly.
[01:20] <fourat> ok so what should i do if i only get debian repositories ? will i get restricted to repositoriums given with ubuntu install cd ?
[01:20] <ph8> I'm trying to figure out if i can mute/unmute my sound card from the command line - can anyone help?
[01:20] <ph8> in gnome
[01:20] <cge> eliyahu: You could pm or email me the problem and I could try to reproduce it - I've just installed from the dapper beta cd, and could dist-upgrade.
[01:20] <crimsun> ph8: amixer or alsamixer
[01:21] <eggzeck> fourat: what are you talking about?
[01:21] <Flannel> eliyahu: fourat if you only have debian repositories... you'll have debian, not ubuntu.
[01:21] <ph8> I have a button on the front of my laptop that works nicely to do it, but i don't know how to check the command line command that runs
[01:21] <ph8> thanks crimsun
[01:21] <fourat> ok, am an old debian users and just migrated to ubuntu
[01:21] <bon_> how do i get rid of this error at ktorrent start up http://pastebin.com/708496
[01:21] <apokryphos> fourat: welcome :)
[01:21] <fourat> where can i find ubuntu repositories ? backports and others
[01:21] <Flannel> fourat: use ubuntu repositories, DONT add debains.  The two are NOT binary compatable.
[01:21] <andersbr> How do I find out if MySQL 5.0 is in Dapper?
[01:22] <Flannel> !easysource
[01:22] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:22] <fourat> apokryphos, thx :)
[01:22] <andersbr> How do I find out if MySQL 5.0 is in Dapper? (possible dupe question.  Network problems)
[01:22] <apokryphos> andersbr: /msg ubotu <packagename> dapper
[01:22] <Flannel> andersbr: packages.ubuntu.com
[01:22] <apokryphos> andersbr: /msg ubotu find <packagename> dapper
[01:22] <eliyahu> cge: I am not an expert in xchat how do I send privatly...
[01:22] <apokryphos> or p.u.c, yeah
[01:22] <Jazy84> ./msg nick
[01:22] <eliyahu> (i should say IRC and not xchat)
[01:22] <Jazy84> without the '.'
[01:22] <cge> fourat: Oh, I see. Are you asking about third party repositories for Debian? If so, then yes, they do work with ubuntu.
[01:22] <eliyahu> ok
[01:22] <cge> fourat: usually
[01:23] <fourat> for example, i asked above about where to get the reposito for vlc, php5.1, apache2, firefox 1.5 and so ..
[01:23] <apokryphos> fourat: /msg ubotu repositories
[01:23] <apokryphos> fourat: all those are available from the standard main, universe, and multiverse.
[01:23] <apokryphos> dear ubotu provides the instructions =)
[01:23] <SlugO> can't this xhat-gnome even use the system tray..? :P
[01:23] <fourat> universe / multiverse ?
[01:23] <cge> eliyahu: with /msg nick
[01:23] <deep> Hello there.
[01:23] <deep> :)
[01:24] <apokryphos> actually, ff 1.5 isn't there, just query ubotu regarding that though
[01:24] <apokryphos> fourat: /msg ubotu repositories   :)
[01:24] <bon_> how do i get rid of this error at ktorrent start up http://pastebin.com/708496
[01:24] <eggzeck> !ff1.5
[01:24] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:24] <cge> fourat: universe ~ main, multiverse ~ non-free and contrib
[01:24] <deep> I just want to tell you all that i luuuuuuub ubuntu <3
[01:24] <deep> luuuuuuuuv***
[01:24] <Flannel> fourat: usually for new stuff you just have to wait, or compile it yourself.
[01:25] <cge> fourat: ubotu won't help you much if you are a old debian user.
[01:25] <eggzeck> deep: ty, I made it myself
[01:25] <deep> Haha ^^
[01:25] <eggzeck> :P
[01:25] <fourat> cge, hh why
[01:25] <apokryphos> cge: sure he will 8)
[01:25] <deep> eggzeck: Delive you. :)
[01:25] <deep> Belive you***
[01:25] <deep> Cant spell today.
[01:25] <apokryphos> fourat: the wiki pages and the factoids on the bot are often very good
[01:25] <eggzeck> deep: don't, because I was kidding :)
[01:25] <fourat> !firefox1.5
[01:25] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:25] <apokryphos> if you already have some GNU/Linux experience you'll get on fine
[01:25] <cge> fourat: because it won't relate to things you already know, like unstable and testing, etc. It can still be helpful, though.
[01:25] <deep> eggzeck: Oooh, didnt realize that... :O
[01:26] <fourat> !vlc
[01:26] <ubotu> hmm... vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the universe repository)
[01:27] <cge> eliyahu: or you could email the bug to me at cge at theory dot caltech dot edu if msg doesn't work.
[01:27] <deep> Best MSN client? Besides amsn. ^^
[01:27] <apokryphos> kopete, woo
[01:27] <deep> But kopete is so uglu ^^
[01:27] <fattyMcfatterson> gaim hurrr...
[01:28] <Duelus> hey, can someone help me with apache?
[01:28] <Duelus> on ubuntu
[01:28] <deep> Gaim 2 is kinda cool ^^
[01:28] <apokryphos> deep: it really isn't if you change a couple of options
[01:28] <OneTruth> t
[01:28] <apokryphos> (though really I still don't think it's ugly by default)
[01:28] <Flannel> CenterICQ is the bestestest MSN client!
[01:28] <deep> apokryphos: Have to check that later on then ^^
[01:28] <deep> CenterICQ? Consolebased, right?
[01:28] <cge> deep: yes, centericq is good.
[01:29] <arrick> Duelus, just asp
[01:29] <arrick> ask even
[01:29] <deep> cge: Tried that, but i could get my varchar right. :P
[01:29] <eliyahu> cge: I tried sending you a few messages you did not see them?
[01:29] <deep> Swedish ^^
[01:29] <Duelus> Heres my problem I install apache2 and edited /etc/apache2/ports.conf and changed it to listen on port 1337, I forwarded that port in my router. I can connect internally on my LAN but not over the web. I have restarted apache but idk Im confused now
[01:29] <cge> eliyahu: no
[01:29] <arrick> someone can help you , you just need to ask you question with all the details involces
[01:29] <apokryphos> deep: http://giannaros.org/kopete.jpg
[01:29] <Duelus> arrick ^
[01:30] <arrick> did you try accessing by the external IP address
[01:30] <Duelus> yes
[01:30] <cge> eliyahu: It is probably better to email me at the email I just gave.  :D
[01:30] <arrick> if you dont edit the /etc/hosts file on the client werver you wont be able to access it
[01:30] <deep> apokryphos: Have to check that out now ^^
[01:31] <eliyahu> jup
[01:31] <eliyahu> 1 sec
[01:31] <Duelus> arrick do you have a guide for editing /etc/host or is it pretty self explanitory
[01:31] <apokryphos> deep: kopete can become very minimalistic quite easily, while still having so many options :)
[01:31] <deep> hum, im kinda new at this IRC-thingi, how can i change status to away / busy / back ?
[01:31] <arrick> pretty self explanitory
[01:32] <cge> Duelus: are you running it on your home connection with comcast?
[01:32] <apokryphos> deep: for example with my amarok now I have kopete set to automatically change my status message to the song I'm playing, and to change my photo to the album cover of the song that's playing, too =)
[01:32] <arrick> Duelus, is this a web server?
[01:32] <Austin_powers> irc LOL
[01:32] <Duelus> yes
[01:32] <meheren> I am borrwogin a dvd from a freind and for some reason it won't play
[01:32] <apokryphos> *status message
[01:32] <arrick> ok, post your apache2.conf to !pastebint
[01:32] <arrick> !pastebin
[01:32] <Duelus> everything works fine over the lan
[01:32] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[01:32] <cge> Duelus: it's open
[01:32] <arrick> not from here its now
[01:32] <cge> Duelus: let me try it
[01:32] <arrick> not
[01:32] <meheren> I put it in and downloaded all the files to my hd because he wnated movie back but i can't seem to play it
[01:32] <deep> apokryphos: MSN messenger - like ^^
[01:33] <meheren> i have xine mplayer and totem
[01:33] <apokryphos> deep: it doesn't change your photo though, does it? :)
[01:33] <deep> apokryphos: Yes, i have just switched to linux. ^^
[01:33] <deep> Photo? :O
[01:33] <meheren> and will downlaod a new one if have to does any6one no how i can play them?
[01:33] <deep> omg, didit read that ^^
[01:33] <pip`> hey guys how do i skip the request for IP address during the startup of edubuntu ??
[01:33] <cge> arrick: hmm.. open for me from caltech.
[01:33] <Austin_powers> how long doe's it take to start up ubuntu linux on a VooDoo 500MHz Emachine
[01:33] <Austin_powers> ?
[01:33] <apokryphos> deep: yup, kde applications are configurable easily like that :P
[01:33] <Duelus> here is /etc/apache2/apache2.conf http://pastebin.com/708526
[01:33] <cge> Duelus: It works fine for me.
[01:33] <Duelus> it does?
[01:33] <_jason> the man page for wget (specifically options -A and -R) refers to ``@pxref{Types of Files}''  What does that mean?  Where can I find that?
[01:33] <deep> apokryphos: Okay, you convinced me. Im trying that out NOW! ^^
[01:34] <Duelus> on port 1337?
[01:34] <Duelus> cge
[01:34] <pip`> i dont even plan to use the internet with edubuntu i dont think
[01:34] <arrick> oh, I forgot te port
[01:34] <Duelus> <IP_ADDRESS>:1337
[01:34] <meheren> how can i play a dvd that is saved on my hd not on a dvd?
[01:34] <Flannel> wow.  thats a leet port!
[01:34] <Austin_powers> i just got ubuntu
[01:34] <cge> Duelus: yes, it works
[01:34] <Duelus> <IP_ADDRESS>:1337
[01:34] <Duelus> you sure?
[01:34] <cge> Duelus: oh
[01:34] <arrick> Duelus, yeah it opens if I put the port in
[01:34] <Duelus> I can't get it on this machine
[01:34] <Duelus> damn ok
[01:34] <Duelus> then I guess everythigns fine
[01:34] <Duelus> hmm
[01:35] <cge> Duelus: wait
[01:35] <cge> Duelus: what machine can't reach it?
[01:35] <arrick> its because of your host file, I just found that out the other day, when I configged mine
[01:35] <Duelus> cge another machien on this lan
[01:35] <arrick> internal in network cant reach it cge
[01:35] <meheren> how can i play a movie when it's in dvd format saved on my hd?
[01:35] <Duelus> well I'm glad it works externally I was assuming it didn't
[01:35] <arrick> burn it to a disc
[01:35] <JonBoon> Austin_powers, i put ubuntu on a very very old emachine today and it only took an hour or so
[01:35] <cge> Duelus: are you also using the server as the router?
[01:35] <arrick> Duelus, nope it works
[01:35] <Duelus> cge no
[01:35] <Austin_powers> heh
[01:36] <meheren> arrick, i don't have dvd burner...
[01:36] <eliyahu> cge: you should get the mail any minute now...
[01:36] <Duelus> arrick, cge well any suggestions to get it working internally? beause I need to access it from the LAN its on and the internet
[01:36] <cge> eliyahu: I have it, yes.
[01:36] <eliyahu> (or any second should be more accurate however often is not)
[01:37] <eliyahu> ok
[01:37] <Austin_powers> .....
[01:37] <arrick> are you in windows or ubuntu on the remote box Duelus
[01:37] <arrick> ?
[01:37] <Duelus> arrick windows
[01:37] <cge> eliyahu: not happening on the beta. I will dist-upgrade and try again.
[01:37] <Duelus> using putty to ssh into the ubuntu box
[01:37] <eliyahu> ok
[01:37] <Austin_powers> this place is packed
[01:38] <cge> Duelus: 1337 sounds like a port that might be blocked outgoing by a software firewall by default, since it would be an obvious port for malicious activities.
[01:38] <meheren> arrg you guys are no help
[01:38] <Duelus> cge I also tried on 8080
[01:38] <Duelus> but still coudln't access internally
[01:38] <cge> Duelus: oh, that should work.
[01:38] <eliyahu> cge: you'll prob need to get a lot of new packages,,,, how long will it take you?
[01:38] <Austin_powers> port 6667 XD
[01:38] <Duelus> cge and there is no software firewall on this windows box
[01:38] <arrick> hey Duelus do a search for hosts and you'll ifnd the file, then let me knw when your there
[01:39] <JonBoon> i still cant get video to play Austin_powers  but im just too lazy to figure it out at this point
[01:39] <Austin_powers> .......
[01:39] <cge> eliyahu: not sure. I have a very fast connection, but the ubuntu servers are the limiting factor.
[01:39] <Duelus> arrick what exactly do you mean?
[01:39] <arrick> click on start>search> files and folders> put hosts in and open that file
[01:39] <eliyahu> cge: just for me it's 02:45 and I need to be up at 07:00-08:00
[01:40] <cge> eliyahu: I see.
[01:40] <Austin_powers> if it takes that long then i need a new cpu
[01:40] <Duelus> arrick do you just want my DNS servers?
[01:40] <JonBoon> im sure it'll load fine, ubuntu runs good on slower pc's
[01:40] <Austin_powers> heh
[01:40] <arrick> you gotta edit that in order to point to your domains with names in you remote box
[01:40] <Austin_powers> emonster
[01:40] <cge> eliyahu: You could ask if anyone else in here can test it. It will probably take at least a half an hour for me.
[01:41] <ShellMaza> any try to run any 3d games yet?
[01:41] <arrick> Duelus, join #arrick for a minute
[01:41] <Duelus> arrack, hosts in C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc?
[01:41] <Austin_powers> i only used it for pc games and internet
[01:41] <JonBoon> hey, i just noticed mines an emonster too
[01:41] <Duelus> ok
[01:41] <Austin_powers> voodoo?
[01:41] <ShellMaza> ?
[01:41] <JonBoon> its a piece of crap pc, i cant tell the stickers are worn out on the front
[01:41] <JonBoon> it was given to me a while back
[01:41] <Austin_powers> had it since 1998
[01:42] <cge> eliyahu: Unfortunately I have a local debian mirror, but not a local ubuntu mirror... I do miss the 1.5MB/s in apt-get.
[01:42] <JonBoon> this is pentium 3 ha
[01:42] <Austin_powers> dotto
[01:42] <ShellMaza> mines a new 3ghz p4ht with gig ram 6600 gforce
[01:42] <Austin_powers> ditto*
[01:42] <JonBoon> i put a 10gb hd from 1996 in it
[01:42] <Austin_powers> .....
[01:42] <ShellMaza> i got sick of M$
[01:42] <Austin_powers> i'm using a normal 300MHz right now
[01:42] <cge> Is there a way to dist-upgrade all the particular deps of a metapackage but not dist-upgrade everything?
[01:42] <Austin_powers> windows
[01:43] <eliyahu> cge: apt-cacher's should work for both,... but they will only speed things up if the packages were already downloaded...
[01:43] <Austin_powers> dang it's still loading
[01:43] <JonBoon> like i said it will take about an hour
[01:43] <cge> eliyahu: Yeah, I have toughguy.caltech.edu for debian, so it isn't actually mine.
[01:43] <majd> Hi, is there a way to mae my volume up/down on the keyboard control the PCM instead of the master?
[01:43] <ShellMaza> ah hour for what?
[01:43] <JonBoon> install
[01:43] <majd> cause the master has no effect on volume
[01:44] <majd> dont know why
[01:44] <ShellMaza> mine installed in 35 mnutes
[01:44] <JonBoon> it took about an hour on this old old old emachine
[01:44] <ShellMaza> oh
[01:44] <ShellMaza> i built a beast
[01:44] <ShellMaza> :)
[01:44] <Austin_powers> anno 1602
[01:44] <asdx> what package do i have to install for have findsmb
[01:44] <JonBoon> it took about 35 on my laptop
[01:44] <ShellMaza> asdx search for smb
[01:44] <Austin_powers> not installing
[01:45] <Austin_powers> loading up
[01:45] <JonBoon> booting?
[01:45] <Austin_powers> yes
[01:45] <ShellMaza> what
[01:45] <JonBoon> well then somethings wrong
[01:45] <ShellMaza> yea...
[01:45] <ShellMaza> any errors?
[01:45] <Austin_powers> it's been about 15 minutes now
[01:45] <JonBoon> once mine had an error and i skipped passed it and then it wouldnt boot, but i just reinstalled and it worked fine
[01:46] <Austin_powers> k
[01:46] <Austin_powers> says
[01:46] <Austin_powers> GUMP loading
[01:46] <Austin_powers> version1.5
[01:46] <cge> eliyahu: it looks like it will actually take an hour or so.
[01:46] <cge> eliyahu: sorry
[01:47] <cge> Is there a program like apt-spy in main, so I don't have to reconfigure it to work with ubuntu?
[01:47] <eliyahu> cge: is okay, I just got an e-mail from a security team guy so I'm gonna chck something
[01:47] <Austin_powers> PEER!!!!!!!
[01:47] <cge> eliyahu: ok
[01:47] <cge> eliyahu: great
[01:48] <fourat> how can i get mysql5 and postgresql 8.1 with apt ?
[01:48] <cge> fourat: are you running dapper?
[01:48] <fourat> !dapper
[01:48] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[01:48] <fourat> wops
[01:48] <fourat> what's that
[01:49] <fourat> should i send my ubuntu to trash ?
[01:49] <Austin_powers> lol
[01:49] <cge> fourat: ?
[01:49] <fourat> :)
[01:49] <drr105> hi, ive got a problem upgrading libgl1-mesa
[01:49] <JonBoon> you should do what your inner child desires
[01:49] <Austin_powers> im checking now
[01:50] <Austin_powers> ......
[01:50] <Austin_powers> nope
[01:50] <cge> fourat: It is in breezy-backports as postgresql-8.1.
[01:50] <Austin_powers> Wait!
[01:50] <medialdesign> How to update firefox to the latest release?  I got the TGZ, but how to update it ?
[01:50] <Austin_powers> what can i use in the command console
[01:50] <Austin_powers> codes
[01:51] <jiping> hi
[01:52] <cge> fourat: mysql5 is only in dapper
[01:53] <eliyahu> cge: it seems to be a config error by me in PAM
[01:54] <cge> eliyahu: ah
[01:54] <cge> eliyahu: is it the default setting?
[01:54] <Austin_powers> XD
[01:55] <cge> Err, why is us.archive.ubuntu.com in the uk?
[01:55] <Austin_powers> 3 in a row
[01:55] <Austin_powers> PEER!!!!!
[01:55] <eliyahu> nope, because I added LDAP to PAM, I was supposed to also add deny to he end of the chain....  what is curious/interesting is why ssh/su/gdm etc. are not also hit by the lack of that setting
[01:57] <Austin_powers> i ned instructions
[01:57] <Austin_powers> need*
[01:58] <cge> Austin_powers: for what?
[01:58] <_jason> the man page for wget (specifically options -A and -R) refers to ``@pxref{Types of Files}''  What does that mean?  Where can I find that?
[01:58] <kbrooks> !ubotu
[01:58] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[01:58] <whiter> how can i find out what program is controlling a window
[01:58] <whiter> like i want to know what program it is
[01:58] <Austin_powers> i have three options
[01:58] <whiter> the actual executable name...
[01:58] <whiter> i think the command is xproc or xgrep or something, i forget
[01:59] <Austin_powers> ubuntu kernal or recovery modes
[01:59] <Austin_powers> other one is memtest
[02:00] <drr105> hi, ive got a problem upgrading libgl1-mesa- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13733
[02:00] <_jason> whiter: xprop maybe?
[02:00] <whiter> there we go
[02:00] <whiter> thank you jason
[02:01] <Austin_powers> i have no net on my Ubuntu cpu
[02:02] <arrick> anyone, where is the file for networking, /etc/network/interfaces
[02:02] <arrick> ?
[02:02] <arrick> or what am i missing
[02:03] <TLE> I have installed cmus by compiling it from source, (before I knew about checkinstall) and now I wan't to uninstall. I did `locate cmus` and found that there was was cmus files in the follwoing directories /usr/local/bin; /usr/local/lib/cmus; /usr/local/share/doc/cmus; /usr/local/share/cmus and a man page. So to uninstall, do I just delete these or are there anything else ?
[02:03] <cge> TLE: make uninstall doesn't work?
[02:03] <eliyahu> cge: saw my answer?
[02:04] <cge> eliyahu: yes
[02:04] <cge> eliyahu: err, which answer?
[02:04] <cge> eliyahu: oh yes, I see it now
[02:04] <cge> eliyahu: There probably should be a warning when it is configured in that way.
[02:04] <tmccrary> hi, out of the blue my x server has started crashing anytime I run an OpenGL program. It's started doing this ever since the last Xorg upgrade (I think the one involving the remote Xorg exploit).
[02:05] <tmccrary> I'm running AMD64, anyone heard of this?
[02:05] <cge> tmccrary: Are you running dapper?
[02:05] <tmccrary> n
[02:05] <tmccrary> no
[02:05] <tmccrary> Breezy 5.10
[02:05] <gnu2it2> what is good video conference package? my dad wants me to see if we can get setup to talk/see family  spread to the 4 corners
[02:05] <gnu2it2> see them grandbabies
[02:05] <cge> gnu2it2: ekiga
[02:06] <cge> gnu2it2: or can it not do more than two people?
[02:06] <TLE> cge: No unfortunately not, the authors think that easy uninstall is the job for a tool like checkinstall
[02:06] <gnu2it2> i think it needs an account with them to make it work
[02:07] <FX> hullo
[02:07] <FX> I've got kind of involved question.....
[02:08] <FX> How can I find out if my tv card is supported or what command can I run to find out what kind of tv card I have
[02:08] <FX> It came with the pc when I bought it.
[02:08] <seraphim> lspci
[02:08] <FX> Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX2341                           6) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
[02:08] <ShellMaza> is a nexus-s dvb card supported?
[02:08] <FX> That would be it right?
[02:09] <docko> hi, does anyone of you use far manager under wine?
[02:09] <seraphim> i think so
[02:09] <seraphim> @ FX
[02:09] <the_mr_bong_show> hey _jason
[02:09] <FX> ok, now does that show it is supported?
[02:09] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: hi
[02:09] <FX> seraphim, ?
[02:09] <ShellMaza> sure
[02:09] <the_mr_bong_show> remeber me _jason
[02:09] <ShellMaza> it loaded a driver
[02:10] <lufis> Do I need a firewall running Ubuntu?
[02:10] <FX> ok, now what is the easiest tv tuner app to use in linux?
[02:10] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: yep
[02:10] <apokryphos> lufis: /msg ubotu firewall
[02:10] <lufis> ok
[02:11] <lufis> Apokryphos, so firewall is already installed?
[02:11] <seraphim> but normally you don't need it lufis
[02:11] <arrick> whats the adduser command and passwd command to change another users password?
[02:11] <lufis> ah, why is that?
[02:11] <_jason> arrick: passwd username
[02:11] <arrick> ok
[02:11] <ShellMaza> useradd newusername
[02:11] <Briguy> How canI reset the sound server in Ubuntu?
[02:12] <the_mr_bong_show> how can i join yahoo chat _jason
[02:12] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: isn't that java based?
[02:12] <Briguy> they removed it
[02:12] <the_mr_bong_show> it might be
[02:12] <tmccrary> Briguy: pray, but even that is futile because it probably won't work right
[02:12] <lufis> So kernel already has firewall included, right? So there's no need for another program?
[02:13] <Briguy> tmccrary: 1) praying is never futile 2) I just need to kill the sound server and start it up again...
[02:13] <TLE> cge: actually I might have misunderstood that(from reading a mailing list), but anyway it wasn't included before version 2.0.1 and I have version 2.0.0
[02:13] <tmccrary> You still need userspace apps to control the firewall
[02:13] <lufis> Tmccray, right, but it's on automatically?
[02:13] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: http://chat.yahoo.com/ says it no longer is.  Have you tried using gaim?
[02:13] <eliyahu> cge: if you'd put the warning it should be some type of mail the system sends to root...
[02:13] <JonBoon> i <3 gaim
[02:13] <the_mr_bong_show> it asks for the room name and i dont remember the room name
[02:13] <eliyahu> cge: anyhow gnite, nice meeting you guys
[02:13] <tmccrary> lufis: It's only on if you enable it by using the userspace iptables command
[02:13] <_darksoul> how do i install .bin files in linux, im trying to install the linux version of torque game engine/demo
[02:13] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: I can't really help you there :P
[02:14] <lufis> Tmccray, ah.
[02:14] <cge> eliyahu: Goodnight, and thanks for finding such an important bug.
[02:14] <docko> does anyone of you use far manager under wine?
[02:14] <cge> eliyahu: they should certainly look into sending a warning.
[02:14] <Briguy> fine how can one kill all the events that are using the sound server atm?
[02:14] <seraphim> lufis: there is no need for a firewall because you don't have open ports unless you installed some server-services
[02:14] <fourat> how to get a network monitor on my taskbar ?
[02:14] <lufis> Seraphim, ahh, thank you for clarifying that. You have to excuse my paranoia, I'm an ex-Windows user ;)
[02:14] <rightcoast> cge, what bug? I just got in.
[02:14] <fourat> (gnome)
[02:14] <seraphim> and even then they should be secure enough by themselves
[02:15] <tmccrary> Briguy: You could use lsof to determine what files are using the sound server
[02:15] <eliyahu> cge: I feel dumb it's me who made the error in configuring... oh well next time better... :)
[02:15] <Briguy> tmccrary thank you
[02:15] <cge> rightcoast: one moment
[02:15] <rightcoast> np
[02:15] <the_mr_bong_show> _jason can i play games like grandtheft auto vice city on ubuntu
[02:15] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: maybe with cedega
[02:15] <ShellMaza> i tryed to install ut2003
[02:15] <ShellMaza> the linux installer dont work on cd3
[02:16] <the_mr_bong_show> cedega?
[02:16] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: transgaming.com
[02:16] <the_mr_bong_show> ok
[02:16] <cge> rightcoast: bug 43906, but you need security access to see it.
[02:16] <fourat> anyone know how to get the network monitor on the taskbar ?
[02:16] <fourat> in gnome
[02:16] <lufis> Fourat, just click "Add to panel..." on the context menu
[02:16] <Briguy> couldn't I just do killall esd
[02:16] <Briguy> ?
[02:16] <rightcoast> Ok, thanks bro
[02:16] <cge> fourat: which one? Do you mean network-manager?
[02:17] <fourat> i want to monitor my interfaces
[02:17] <Cody`> Can anyone tell me how to change this nasty ubuntulooks color
[02:17] <tmccrary> hopefully upgrading to 2.6.12-10 will stop Xorg from crashing when I run OpenGL apps. Not that I have any real hope this will fix this bitch
[02:17] <fourat> to see if their active or not ..
[02:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell Cody` about themes
[02:17] <Cody`> I want regular clearlooks back, but it will not go back to blue
[02:17] <fourat> i have it on my debian sarge as an applet on kde
[02:18] <ShellMaza> is opengl installed by default?
[02:18] <the_mr_bong_show> _jason can i get cedega for free
[02:18] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: no
[02:18] <cge> fourat: then use add applet on the panel, and I think there is an applet like that.
[02:18] <lufis> How do I disable a service from starting up? Specifically, the bluetooth service?
[02:18] <fourat> no didnt get it
[02:18] <fourat> do u have it on ur desktop ?
[02:19] <the_mr_bong_show> is linx better than windows
[02:19] <ShellMaza> is OpenGL installed by default?
[02:19] <_jason> the_mr_bong_show: depends on the person
[02:19] <seraphim> lufis: you could go to synaptic and remove the bluetooth-packages
[02:20] <lufis> Seraphim, alright, thanks
[02:20] <tmccrary> the_mr_bong_show: Depends on what you're doing. Linux has a much better feature set as far as administration and software installation. Windows has a much better user experience (for the first few weeks at least) and has far better hardware support.
[02:20] <cge> fourat: It shows up as Network Monitor on my computer, but I'm running dapper.
[02:20] <BlueLaguna> is there a firewall installed in the default installation?
[02:20] <cge> tmccrary: I would dispute the better user experience for the first few weeks, at least with dapper.
[02:20] <seraphim> lufius: bluez-utils i think is the right one
[02:21] <cge> BlueLaguna: you don't need one with Linux except in special cases.
[02:21] <lufis> Seraphim, when I click "Mark for removal" it also lists "Ubuntu-desktop" as one of the removed things. Is that bad?
[02:21] <tmccrary> cge: I haven't really used Dapper yet but I'm sure it's better than the current Ubuntu
[02:21] <tmccrary> It definately looks nice :)
[02:21] <BlueLaguna> cge: I'm trying to figure a problem with BitTorrent
[02:21] <seraphim> no. ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package
[02:22] <lufis> Seraphim: ah, alright
[02:22] <BlueLaguna> I have a DMZ setup to this machine
[02:22] <tmccrary> Is dapper fairly stable currently?
[02:22] <roy> nope
[02:22] <cge> tmccrary: quite
[02:22] <roy> not for me it isnt
[02:22] <Austin_powers> it's finally up
[02:22] <roy> i cant even get it to install
[02:22] <roy> haha
[02:22] <cge> tmccrary: at least for some people.
[02:22] <tmccrary> I know it's coming out in a few weeks, but Breezy crashes every time I run an OpenGL app and gives no errors (Xorg crashes)
[02:22] <cge> roy: it won't install?
[02:22] <roy> nope
[02:22] <tmccrary> I really need to be able to use blender to do work
[02:22] <roy> keeps telling me kernel panic
[02:22] <roy> :|
[02:23] <Cody`> _jason: That doesn't help me though, I want the blue clearlooks window border back. Installing another window border still keeps teh thing this disgusting orange
[02:23] <the_mr_bong_show> is there a newer virsion of ubuntu i have 5.10
[02:23] <tmccrary> roy: that's the kind of problem I have now with Breezy. :(
[02:23] <_jason> Cody`: are you using dapper?
[02:23] <tmccrary> not exactly, but your display crashing is fairly major
[02:23] <roy> 5.10 is old
[02:23] <seraphim> the_mr_bong_show: 6.06, but it's still beta
[02:23] <Cody`> _jason: yes
[02:23] <tmccrary> 5.10 is current I believe :)
[02:23] <roy> breezy is 5.10 right?
[02:23] <rightcoast> yep
[02:23] <cge> roy: yes
[02:23] <roy> current stable...
[02:24] <roy> but their is dapper...
[02:24] <cge> tmccrary: you could certainly try dapper. Dapper has a newer version of xorg, if I recall.
[02:24] <roy> why would it say kernel panic ?
[02:24] <roy> what does that mean? it says it with every os i put in
[02:24] <roy> mandrake, suse, and 3 versions of ubuntu
[02:24] <tmccrary> I'm just afraid I'll upgrade and my whole system will die
[02:24] <roy> :O
[02:24] <cge> roy: because the kernel is in panic.
[02:24] <_jason> Cody`: what ornage are you talking about exactly?  I change to clearlooks and can't find anything right away
[02:24] <roy> yeah but why?
[02:24] <Cody`> if I change to clearlooks
[02:24] <roy> how do i fix that?
[02:24] <tmccrary> roy: Kernel panic is Linux's version of the bluescreen of death
[02:25] <Cody`> the title bar is still this fugly orange
[02:25] <Cody`> _jason: if I change the thing to any clearlooks theme, the title bar and controls stay orange. No change
[02:25] <cge> roy: It is a general term for when the kernel can't continue because of a huge problem.
[02:25] <roy> damn
[02:25] <roy> and how do i figure out hte huge problem?!
[02:25] <roy> LOL
[02:25] <michael> hello
[02:25] <cge> roy: the stuff that comes up right before usually tells you.
[02:25] <roy> hey michael
[02:25] <tmccrary> roy: Unfortunately, on Linux you actually don't get any kind of visual notification if you're in an X session. Your computer just freezes and reboots if you have a reboot period set
[02:25] <Nihil85> hi! i have an error with XKB... here's the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13734
[02:25] <roy> cge: it is all in hex i think
[02:25] <BlueLaguna> can I upgrade to dapper via apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:26] <seraphim> if it happens with several different kernels i would assume a hardware-problem
[02:26] <michael> does anybody know if sourceforge has an IRC server/channel?
[02:26] <_jason> Cody`: let's take this to #ubuntu+1, that's where dapper talk should be
[02:26] <roy> i have no hardware problems tho... that i know of
[02:26] <roy> =\
[02:26] <Cody`> _jason: will do
[02:26] <tate> Hello, I am trying to get a working C++ development environment going in Ubuntu 5.10
[02:26] <cge> roy: hmm... there is usually some text, but it might be pushed off the screen by the hex stuff.
[02:26] <tate> This feels a bit like wrestling, I installed eclipse and the CDT plugin
[02:26] <michael> tate:  try anjuta
[02:27] <cge> tate: just use vim or emacs.
[02:27] <roy> ok im booting to find out
[02:27] <tate> Yeah, I am trying to get that
[02:27] <tate> Anjuta works great on my gentoo installation
[02:27] <tate> But installing it on ubuntu is tells me I need to install: XML::Parser perl module
[02:27] <tmccrary> I use eclipse CDT, the newer version work great
[02:27] <Nihil85> hi! i have an error with XKB... here's the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13734
[02:27] <tate> I have the latest CDT
[02:27] <tmccrary> Make sure you aren't using GCJ though, GCJ can run Eclipse but it REALLY REALLY SUCKS at it
[02:27] <tate> it doesn't seem to parse properly
[02:28] <tate> some HelloWorld cpp's won't even compile with CDT
[02:28] <michael> tate:  apt-get install libxml-parser-perl
[02:28] <tate> at least on my installation
[02:28] <_jason> tate: then you need libxml-parser-perl
[02:28] <the_mr_bong_show> im updating ubuntu WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[02:28] <tmccrary> is g++ installed?
[02:28] <cge> the_mr_bong_show: to dapper?
[02:28] <the_mr_bong_show> whats dapper?
[02:28] <cge> the_mr_bong_show: never mind
[02:28] <gnat_x> so i am trying to install xubuntu dapper beta, but the intsall keeps failing when the installer tries to install the kernel.
[02:29] <gnat_x> what could be causing that.
[02:29] <OetmetG> Hey... sometimes, randomly, my Gnome session doesn't play sounds.. neither mp3... it shows as if were playing (rhytmbox or mpg123) but no sound is playing
[02:29] <OetmetG> any idea?
[02:29] <gnat_x> the error messages aren't that helpful.
[02:29] <OetmetG> I'm using an alsa souind card
[02:29] <OetmetG> intel
[02:29] <michael> so nobody know if sf.net has an irc channel?
[02:29] <gnat_x> OetmetG, is esd launching too.
[02:29] <tmccrary> OetmetG: Sorry to say, these issues are a fact of life, you will have them for the forseeable future
[02:30] <OetmetG> gnat_x: yes, esd is running
[02:30] <lufis> When is the next release gonna be out?
[02:30] <OetmetG> tmccrary: are you serious?
[02:30] <tmccrary> Early June
[02:30] <gnat_x> OetmetG: i've had that problem with debian. (actually its whatever the gnome sound thing is)
[02:30] <gnat_x> OetmetG: that conflicts with alsa.
[02:31] <tate> apt-get install libxml-parser-perl doesn't seem to give me anything
[02:31] <gnat_x> OetmetG: what happens if you run alasacong (as root from the cli)
[02:31] <the_mr_bong_show> what kind of stuff can i do on ubuntu
[02:31] <tmccrary> OetmetG: Sadly yes, I have never had a Linux machine that didn't have massive sound problems everywhere. Linux is a great OS, but audio support is majorly flawed
[02:31] <OetmetG> gnat_x: alasacong?
[02:31] <brrrt> hello
[02:32] <gnat_x> OetmetG: alsaconf or alsaconfig don't rememeber which, i'm not in front of my home computer now.
[02:32] <gnat_x> any takers on why the installer would fail when trying to install the kernel.
[02:33] <brrrt> i need "screensaver-x11.h" where can i find it?
[02:33] <OetmetG> i dont have that file actually
[02:33] <NoUse> gnat_x the cd could be bad
[02:33] <_jason> !find screensaver-x11.h
[02:33] <the_mr_bong_show> how many commands are there for ubuntu
[02:33] <arrick> hey deleting a user id userdel right?
[02:33] <gnat_x> NoUse: *nod* that's what i was thinking. though i just burned it today. :(
[02:33] <tmccrary> If you're using ShipIt discs, you have to check them out, I've gotten a couple of bad ones
[02:33] <arrick> or eluser
[02:33] <arrick> deluser
[02:33] <NoUse> gnat_x how did you download it?
[02:33] <Nihil85> hi! i have an error with XKB... here's the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13734
[02:33] <arrick> _jason, ^^
[02:33] <brrrt> !find screensaver-x11.h
[02:33] <brrrt> ?
[02:34] <gnat_x> NoUse: wget
[02:34] <_jason> arrick: deluser is nicer
[02:34] <arrick> ok
[02:34] <zcat[1] > the_mr_bong_show: open a terminal and press <tab> twice..
[02:34] <NoUse> gnat_x did you check the md5sums?
[02:34] <tate> Oh, and the synaptic install of Kdevelop only works in ubuntu if you run it as root
[02:34] <gnat_x> NoUse: nope. should have though. but i did run a check on the cd from within the installer.
[02:34] <brrrt> i mean how can i find out if any package contains "screensaver-x11.h" ?
[02:35] <_jason> brrrt: packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file search, but I am not finding any
[02:35] <NoUse> gnat_x then it should be ok, is the installer still up on your screen?
[02:35] <michael> ok bye
[02:35] <gnat_x> NoUse: yeah.
[02:35] <gnat_x> NoUse: right where is failed
[02:35] <the_mr_bong_show> is that all zcat[1]
[02:36] <NoUse> gnat_x one of the virtual terminals shows debugging output try Ctrl+Alt+F1-4
[02:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'screensaver-x11.h' returned no results.
[02:36] <Pr0hibited> hey, for some reason when I try to go to some things on ubuntu, like "services", it will act like it's loading, but it won't.. I REALLY need to get into services atm. Help?
[02:36] <zcat[1] > no.. it's most.
[02:36] <tokeman> hey err I'm having sound issues still can someone send me a link to try and fix that?, I lost it
[02:36] <gnat_x> NoUse: f4
[02:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of 'screensaver-x11.h' returned no results.
[02:36] <gnat_x> NoUse: "dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[02:36] <brrrt> oh i c
[02:37] <zcat[1] > there are all the system binaries and screensaver apps that probably aren't in your path..
[02:37] <brrrt> thats bad :(...
[02:37] <brrrt> i nedd it for compiling
[02:37] <_jason> brrrt: what are you trying to compile?
[02:37] <brrrt> mythtv
[02:37] <NoUse> gnat_x you might try restarting the install, if it fails again, check the md5 and reburn possilby at a lower speed
[02:37] <_jason> brrrt: mythv is in the repositories, no need to compile
[02:38] <_jason> !info mythtv
[02:38] <ubotu> mythtv: (A personal video recorder application (client and server)), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.18.1-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[02:38] <_jason> brrrt: just enable multiverse
[02:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell brrrt about multiverse
[02:38] <gnat_x> NoUse: do you know off the top of your head where this installs to? might have made a partition too small (old machine small disk)
[02:38] <brrrt> i need to compile it for softcam to get our austrian encrypted local tv statiuons
[02:38] <NoUse> gnat_x the kernel goes into /boot
[02:39] <NoUse> gnat_x how big did you make boot?
[02:39] <_jason> brrrt: apt-get source mythtv, make the modifications you need to the source, then build it again
[02:39] <_jason> brrrt: and make sure you install 'build-essential' as well as do 'apt-get build-dep mythtv'
[02:40] <brrrt> ah thx alot
[02:41] <Austin_powers> O M H
[02:41] <Austin_powers> G*
[02:42] <Austin_powers> my desktop is not showing
[02:42] <Austin_powers> PEER!!!!
[02:42] <tokeman> your desk to eh
[02:42] <Austin_powers> huh?
[02:42] <tokeman> my sound isn't sounding
[02:43] <Austin_powers> eh?
[02:44] <NoUse> Austin_powers did you change anything before this happened?
[02:44] <gnat_x> biovore: yeah, its too small. i think that's the problem
[02:44] <gnat_x> biovore: sorry, not directed at you
[02:45] <daryl> anyone here know how to use samba?
[02:45] <gnat_x> NoUse: yeah, its too small. i think that's the problem
[02:45] <bbrazil> daryl: yes
[02:45] <NoUse> !tell daryl about samba
[02:45] <OneTruth> hey im setting up an ubuntu web server for our company intranet, what partitioning scheme do you guys recommend
[02:45] <Austin_powers> no
[02:46] <daryl> bbrazil: i just installed samba, and what i wanted to use it for, was to print to a windows shared printer, from my ubuntu/linux machine.
[02:46] <tmccrary> OneTruth: Use jfs
[02:46] <tmccrary> XFS is also good
[02:46] <daryl> bbrazil: it does do that, right?
[02:46] <OneTruth> ok, and what about the actual partitions. ie. boot partition, swap partition, etc
[02:47] <NoUse> Austin_powers log out, switch to a virtual terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F2), login, then run nano ~/.xsession-errors and see if anything stands out as a possible cause
[02:47] <OneTruth> and what are the recommend sizes for the different partitions
[02:47] <Awesome-o2000> I installed the ati drivers via the instructions given to me in ubotu - the first link - but my screen goes black and my system halts when I try to start x - can anyone help?
[02:48] <tmccrary> OneTruth: You could probably use the defaults, it really doesn't matter that much.
[02:48] <bbrazil> daryl: you don't need the samba server for that. Install cups
[02:48] <OneTruth> tmccrary: the default partitions? so just tell the installer to automatically partition the machine?
[02:48] <daryl> bbrazil: apt-get install cups?
[02:48] <bbrazil> daryl: I think so
[02:49] <tmccrary> OneTruth: yeah, unless you're going to be using raid and need lvm and stuff
[02:49] <brrrt> _jason: thx, it looks like "apt-get build-dep mythtv" might do the trick :)
[02:49] <_jason> brrrt: hello
[02:49] <_jason> brrrt: np i mean heh i'm on phone
[02:49] <OneTruth> tmccrary: ok cool, so select the first option: "Erase entire disk: IDE1 master (hda)"
[02:50] <daryl> !cups
[02:50] <ubotu> [cups]  The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[02:50] <NoUse> Awesome-o2000 start the machine in recovery mode and pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:50] <Awesome-o2000> NoUse, how do I do recovery mode?
[02:50] <tmccrary> Onetruth: As long as there's no unbackedup data on hda :)
[02:51] <OneTruth> tmccrary: right :0
[02:51] <Awesome-o2000> NoUse, nvm thats in my boot options isnt it?
[02:51] <NoUse> Awesome-o2000 yes
[02:51] <Awesome-o2000> thanks brb
[02:51] <OneTruth> tmccrary:  also im installing the server base, to install gnome i can just use apt-get and run it from the terminal right?
[02:52] <OneTruth> tmccrary: im still a linux newbie and have to resort gnome occasionally
[02:52] <Austin_powers> i can't even get into gnome
[02:53] <daryl> bbrazil: i went to the linuxprinting.org and it has a list of known printers.  but it doesn't have my printer listed there.  should i even try to get cups?
[02:53] <bbrazil> daryl: windows is doingthe printing, so it shouldn't matter (I think)
[02:54] <NoUse> Austin_powers yeah just get to a console, run nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and look for lines starting with "EE"
[02:54] <tmccrary> OneTruth: Yes, you should be able to run Gnome. But you shouldn't need to use X to administrate a Linux server even if you're new. What kinds of things do you need to do from the GUI?
[02:55] <NoUse> isn't there a script pastebin from the console?
[02:55] <OneTruth> tmccrary: im thinking being able to see the file structure would be helpful, sometimes i get lost as to where certain files are kept
[02:56] <Austin_powers> you mean Memtest+?
[02:57] <NoUse> Austin_powers no, for each kernel installed, there is a "recovery mode" selection at the boot menu
[02:57] <tmccrary> OneTruth: You can use find /search/base/path -iname *filename* to search for files. pwd will tell you where you are at currently
[02:57] <Austin_powers> OH YES
[02:57] <Austin_powers> IM doing that now
[02:58] <OneTruth> tmccrary: ok, I will leave the gnome uninstalled and force myself to become more familiar
[02:58] <OneTruth> tmccrary: hehe that should work
[02:58] <Austin_powers> doing ctrl alt f2
[02:58] <callim> Im having slow xgl performance on dapper compared to when i try xgl on kororaa, anyone got a clue? :S
[02:59] <Austin_powers> now it looks like dos-mode
[02:59] <Austin_powers> PEER!!!!!
[02:59] <cge> OneTruth: you might want to try adding vga=791 or something similar to your boot parameters as well, so that you will have a usefully large console.
[02:59] <OneTruth> how easy is it to upgrade ubuntu to the latest version. ie. 5.10 to 6
[03:00] <callim> Im having slow xgl performance on dapper compared to when i try xgl on kororaa, anyone got a clue? :S
[03:00] <OneTruth> cge: what does that do?
[03:00] <tmccrary> Very easy, as long as the upgrade goes smoothly
[03:00] <cge> Austin_powers: why do you keep saying PEER!?
[03:00] <OneTruth> awesome
[03:00] <cge> OneTruth: It will make the font in the console smaller.
[03:00] <tokeman> cus he's high
[03:00] <Austin_powers> connection reset by peer
[03:00] <tmccrary> It's basically three steps, change breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list, then run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:00] <Austin_powers> it always happens  to me
[03:00] <tmccrary> well four, hehe
[03:00] <OneTruth> ahh ok
[03:01] <OneTruth> cool
[03:01] <Austin_powers> ok what do i type after C+A+f2
[03:01] <cge> OneTruth: So that instead of 80x25 you can have a decent number of lines and columns. Then you can use a program like screen to split the console in two.
[03:01] <FX> how do I find out if v4l is loaded or installed?
[03:02] <NoUse> Austin_powers log in, then run 'nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log', look for lines that start with EE
[03:02] <OneTruth> ok, so this way i can more easily read what is going on
[03:02] <Austin_powers> i will
[03:02] <OneTruth> any of you guys installed Plone on an ubuntu web serveR?
[03:02] <Austin_powers> I cannot log in
[03:02] <OneTruth> we are planning on using Plone and im thinking i can set up a dev install on the new intranet server
[03:03] <NoUse> Austin_powers do you remember your password?
[03:03] <Awesome-o2000> OK - what was it I am supposed to pastebin? thank you for letting me know what recovery mode was - it let me change my xorg.conf. My fglrx module is loading no problem - xorg just freezes when I start it . I havent done a system update yet.
[03:03] <pyrotic> Yay.. where is the smart people.. :P
[03:04] <NoUse> Awesome-o2000 /var/log/Xorg.0.log should show what went wrong
[03:04] <pyrotic> A error occured, please run Package Manager from the right-click menu or apt-get on a termina to see what is wrong...<-- that hpapened when I tried to update.. Ubuntu, Breezy badger
[03:04] <tokeman> any package I can use to detect my sound card, i'm having a hard time here I'm not one of the smart ones:(
[03:04] <Austin_powers> yes but no desktop
[03:05] <NoUse> Austin_powers but you have console access?
[03:06] <pip`> can someone help me ?? im new at linux & trying to install ubuntu on an auxiliary hard drive that has a full ntfs primary partition as well as an empty 30 gb logical partition originally set up by my windows xp cd, for some reason ubuntu wont let me just install on the empty logical partition without deleting it, why wont it just install ??
[03:06] <NoUse> pip` because its an NTFS partition I assume
[03:06] <pip`> the 30gb logical partition is fat32
[03:06] <Awesome-o2000> NoUse, its saying my car is something it isnt
[03:06] <tokeman> because the NTFS partition is unreadable in linux
[03:06] <Awesome-o2000> card
[03:06] <Austin_powers> well black screen
[03:06] <Awesome-o2000> here, I'll pastebin it
[03:07] <NoUse> pip` linux won't install to FAt32, you have to delete it
[03:07] <pip`> then why doesnt ubuntu say that ?
[03:07] <bbrazil> pip`: fat32 and linux don't work too well together
[03:07] <bbrazil> pip`: for installing on that is
[03:07] <tokeman> because
[03:07] <OneTruth> ok installation is complete, but why is everything caps in my console?
[03:07] <NoUse> pip` why would Linxu install to a Microsoft filesystem?
[03:07] <tokeman> lol
[03:08] <pip`> why doesnt ubuntu tell me the problem is it cant handle fat32, dont other distros handle fat32 ?
[03:08] <tokeman> put it this way ford parts don't work on a chevy same thing with windows/linux
[03:08] <NoUse> pip` you are misunderstanding, linux can read FAT32, it can't install to it
[03:08] <pip`> so ubuntu isnt good at giving error messages ?
[03:08] <Austin_powers> i am logging in under norm mode
[03:08] <tokeman> lol
[03:08] <NoUse> pip` if you let Ubuntu automatically partition, it would take care of all this for you
[03:09] <bbrazil> pip`: you might want to file a bug to get a better error message
[03:09] <tovella> pip`: RTFM.
[03:09] <tmccrary> Linux should be able to use Fat32 if you install the extensions that let you use Unix permissions in Fat32
[03:09] <Austin_powers> Well the Random number generator is failed
[03:09] <Austin_powers> PEER
[03:10] <tokeman> lol
[03:10] <bbrazil> tmccrary: I believe umsdos is deprecated
[03:10] <pip`> nouse, ok i was gonna do that but at the last moment i was afraid it was gonna delete BOTH partitions despite my selecting only the logical partition
[03:10] <FX> anyone in here good with tv cards?
[03:10] <Awesome-o2000>  NoUse http://pastebin.com/708652
[03:10] <Awesome-o2000> its not letting me paste it all in :((
[03:10] <pip`> i didnt see any 'auto' partitioning in ubuntu
[03:11] <tovella> FX: I've learned a little about the Hauppauge cards.  Which one do you have?
[03:11] <NoUse> pip` its there
[03:11] <FX> umm, not really sure. lol
[03:11] <bbrazil> tmccrary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMSDOS gone in 2.6.11
[03:11] <lukaswayne9> When I try to add my printer, I don't see any options in the "Printer Ports".  What should I do?  Maybe a service isn't started?
[03:11] <pip`> so can some one atleast tell me my other full partition will be safe from deletion when i delete the empty partition ?
[03:12] <tokeman> yes it will
[03:12] <pip`> ok
[03:12] <tokeman> just make sure the partion IS EMPTY
[03:12] <tokeman> that way you will not lose anything
[03:12] <pip`> whew, the wording in ubuntu was slightly vague on that issue
[03:12] <tovella> FX: I did quite a bit of research regarding my Hauppauge WinTV-PVR.  It works well, but now I wish I'd had more money to buy one of the mpeg4 cards.
[03:12] <Austin_powers> .........
[03:12] <Awesome-o2000> NoUse, I couldnt find anything I could use in that file anyhow, the last entry says dri enabled - if I pastebin my xorg,conf would that help?
[03:13] <NoUse> Awesome-o2000 I'm not experienced with ATI drivers, I had such bad experiences with them that I don't buy ATI cards anymore :-)
[03:13] <FX> torvella I sent you a pm if you don't mind
[03:13] <pip`> so auto partitioning wont delete the WHOLE hard drive as long as i highlight only a single empty partition
[03:13] <BrandoCrap> anyone running 64 bit distro?
[03:13] <tokeman> well thats cus linux in general has people that know a thing or three unlike myself thats new at linux but know enough not kill my computer and lose winblows info if I do a dual boot
[03:13] <pip`> also, will ubuntu handle my amd64 cpu ?
[03:14] <NoUse> pip` if you delete that Fat32 partition, then run the installer, there will be an open that says "Use Free space to install" or something like that
[03:14] <Awesome-o2000> NoUse, Im in the same boat right now. I thought it would be easy because the wiki's made it seem so, but apparently the driver just gives me a black screen of death.
[03:14] <tovella> Anybody know where I can find out about the difference between DapperFlight and DapperDrake?
[03:14] <pip`> nouse, ok
[03:14] <tovella> FX: send it.
[03:14] <bbrazil> pip`: yip, although i386 works a bit easier if you want to run binary stuff
[03:14] <Austin_powers> DANG IT
[03:14] <FX> you should already have a window
[03:14] <FX> tovella,
[03:14] <pip`> binary stuff ?
[03:15] <Austin_powers> i am helpless
[03:15] <pip`> u mean source file compiling ?
[03:15] <NoUse> pip` video codecs, flash
[03:15] <bbrazil> pip`: no, that'll work fine
[03:15] <pip`> well, i do want to run video codecs, but not flash
[03:15] <pip`> ok
[03:15] <daryl> !gnu
[03:15] <Austin_powers> MY Random Number Generator failed
[03:15] <ubotu> well, gnu is Not Unix. See http://www.gnu.org
[03:15] <FX> brb
[03:16] <tovella> FX: got audible notification, but no window -- using beta software.
[03:16] <tovella> FX: try again please.
[03:16] <daryl> !gnu autoconf
[03:16] <ubotu> daryl: Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:16] <Austin_powers> lol
[03:16] <BrandoCrap> pip`, you trying to dual boot?
[03:16] <tokeman> !sound
[03:16] <ubotu> Help to fix issues with sound can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[03:17] <OneTruth> how would i ssh into an ubuntu server from mac os x?
[03:18] <OneTruth> i should open terminal and type "ssh serveriphere"
[03:18] <OneTruth> right?
[03:18] <arrick> through ommand line
[03:18] <arrick> yes
[03:18] <daryl> bbrazil you still here?
[03:18] <bbrazil> daryl: yip
[03:18] <OneTruth> ok, i do that and i get "Connection Refused"
[03:18] <OneTruth> on port 22
[03:18] <jarro1> hello
[03:18] <daryl> bbrazil: cups wants "gnu autoconf" to install.  I am not sure where or what it is to get/install it
[03:18] <jarro1> i need some help please on installation of mplayer
[03:18] <tovella> OneTruth: are you sure openssh-server installed on the ubuntu box?
[03:19] <arrick> anyone, I installed Ubuntu first then I installed Windows Server 2003 Enterprise and now I am trying to get ubuntu to run, how do i do this without reinstalling ubuntu?
[03:19] <OneTruth> tovella: yea i just ran apt-get install ssh openssh-server
[03:19] <tovella> OneTruth: it must be configured to allow connections from you network segment.
[03:19] <pip`> ok i just did an auto partition and ubuntu set up another primary partition along with a tiny leftover swap partition each with 2 smiley faces next to them, is it ok now that i have more than one primary partition on a single hard drive or will that cause problems somehow later ?
[03:19] <bbrazil> daryl: are you not using the ubuntu packages?
[03:19] <OneTruth> ok, how do i do that?
[03:19] <daryl> bbrazil: not sure what that is
[03:19] <NoUse> !tell arrick about grub
[03:19] <jadaz87> hello does anyone know a good bbs server for ubuntu?
[03:19] <daryl> i'm on ubuntu dapper
[03:20] <tovella> FX: got another audible indication, but window opened and closed in a flash.
[03:20] <bbrazil> daryl: try sudo apt-get install cupsys
[03:20] <pip`> ok i just did an auto partition and ubuntu set up another primary partition along with a tiny leftover swap partition each with 2 smiley faces next to them,
[03:20] <daryl> bbrazil: trying now
[03:20] <jarro1> my problem is that ubuntu packages are not satisfactory for an installation
[03:20] <pip`>  is it ok now that i have more than one primary partition on a single hard drive or will that cause problems somehow later ?
[03:20] <OneTruth> tovella: how do i do that?
[03:20] <arrick> thanks
[03:20] <jarro1> please hel[
[03:20] <jarro1> ^help
[03:20] <NoUse> pip` that should fine
[03:20] <pip`> ok good thx
[03:20] <pip`> but i never heard of 2 primary partitions on one drive b4
[03:21] <pip`> heh
[03:21] <daryl> bbrazil: already newest
[03:21] <jarro1> actually, if anyone can just help me get ubuntu dapper setup to play most common media files id appreciate it
[03:21] <NoUse> pip` probably have never had two OSes on one hard drive before?
[03:21] <jarro1> i cant help myself in this area
[03:21] <bbrazil> daryl: goto http://localhost:631
[03:21] <Prophet> hi. I'm having a problem with my trashcan using Gnomb - I copied buch of files from dvd to a desktop on my folder - I moved the folder to the trashcan after i copied it accross the network - it keeps telling me I dont have access permissions to remove them from my trashcan, though I can move them from the trashcan to the desktop - I am logged in a root. Newish nix user.
[03:21] <AJR1> hey guys
[03:21] <Prophet> can anyone help or am i in the wrong place,
[03:21] <Prophet> :-)
[03:21] <AJR1> is there an ubuntu teamspeak
[03:21] <daryl> bbrazil: Unable to connect
[03:21] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> PEER!
[03:22] <NoUse> !justask
[03:22] <ubotu> - Ask your question and we'll try to answer it.
[03:22] <lukaswayne9> Can someone help me?  My parallel port isn't being detected in gnome-cups-add
[03:22] <jarro1> anyone?
[03:22] <bbrazil> daryl: hmm, sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys start
[03:22] <NoUse> BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO please stop yelling peer all the time
[03:22] <OneTruth> How do i configure OpenSSH-Server?
[03:22] <pip`> nouse, no hah
[03:22] <tmccrary> OneTruth: did you apt-get install ssh yet?
[03:22] <bbrazil> OneTruth: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[03:22] <OneTruth> tmccrary:  yes
[03:22] <NoUse> OneTruth its automatically configured when you install it
[03:22] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> it's a script
[03:22] <daryl> bbrazil: said it was starting.
[03:23] <OneTruth> I get a Connection Refused error when i try to connect
[03:23] <bbrazil> daryl: try accessing that again then
[03:23] <NoUse> OneTruth is the server running?
[03:23] <pip`> lala
[03:23] <OneTruth> as far as i know, i just installed it
[03:23] <NoUse> OneTruth sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:23] <OneTruth> NoUse: ok
[03:24] <daryl> bbrazil: i'm trying to run "autoconf -f" to install cups.  i guess its already installed?
[03:24] <OneTruth> NoUse: same thing
[03:24] <bbrazil> daryl: yes, don't bother trying to compile it
[03:24] <OneTruth> NoUse: maybe my hosts file isnt set-up right
[03:24] <daryl> bbrazil: so forgivbe me, but what next to use it to print?
[03:24] <bbrazil> daryl: ?
[03:25] <pip`> hey guys im curious, why does ubuntu insist on an ip address etc even if its not connected to the internet ?
[03:25] <OneTruth> is there a way to make my console not all in CAPS??
[03:25] <daryl> bbrazil: you said to use it to print to a windows share, instead of samba
[03:25] <BrandoCrap> anyone know of any good startup guides for dual-booting XP and ubintu (64 bit eds)?
[03:25] <daryl> bbrazil: i'm not sure how to use cups
[03:25] <bbrazil> daryl: you have to setup the printer. http://localhost:631/
[03:25] <tovella> OneTruth: is your mac client on the same network segment?  if so, it should just work...  try [ssh root@servernameORserverIP]
[03:25] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> i'm in the Failsafe terminal what should i do
[03:26] <daryl> bbrazil: that says unable to connect.  am i supposed to be doing that in a browser?
[03:26] <NoUse> BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO run nano ~/.xsession-errors
[03:26] <OneTruth> tovella: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>returns: Connection refused
[03:26] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> k
[03:26] <bgf> newbie ? for y'all.....    i got ub v.5.10 up and running, then dropped another HDD in behind it.  however, i can't see the drive, even to mount it.  any suggestions?
[03:26] <NoUse> OneTruth you sure thats yoru IP address?
[03:26] <OneTruth> NoUse: thats what i put in the interfaces file...
[03:26] <pip`> do i really need to know that much about linux to use ubuntu ? im hoping its very freindly
[03:26] <jarro1> hello, i'm in need of help in setting up ubuntu to play some media files, if anyone knows of a great guide that would be awesome
[03:27] <NoUse> BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO see if anything near the bottom of the file gives hints
[03:27] <fourat> !jre
[03:27] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fourat
[03:27] <NoUse> OneTruth run ifconfig
[03:27] <fiendskull9> hey
[03:27] <bbrazil> daryl: yes
[03:27] <fiendskull9> where is libXpm.so?
[03:27] <fourat> how to install flash and java plugins for firefox1.5 ?
[03:27] <tovella> jarro1: easyubuntu (use google) is great for this.
[03:27] <bbrazil> fourat: locate -i libXpm.so
[03:27] <OneTruth> NoUse: hmm that gives me a different IP address...
[03:27] <NoUse> pip` its different from windows, don't expect it to be exactly the same
[03:27] <fiendskull9> !tell fourat about easyubuntu
[03:27] <bbrazil> fiendskull9: ^
[03:28] <NoUse> OneTruth theres your problem :-)
[03:28] <daryl> bbrazil: thats not working... what about going into network settings, and setting up a host? do you know how to do it that way?
[03:28] <pip`> yes but umm, how much different ?
[03:28] <tovella> FX: i tried to PM you but got an autoreply, saying "I'm busy".
[03:28] <kbrooks> tovella: don't tell him to google.
[03:28] <pip`> i hope its not that hard
[03:28] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> ALOT of ERRORS
[03:28] <OneTruth> NoUse: yes sir, so how do i make the changes i made to interfaces apply?
[03:28] <kbrooks> tovella: it's counterproductive
[03:28] <bbrazil> daryl: the problem is that cups isn't running
[03:28] <NoUse> OneTruth you probably need to do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:28] <tovella> kbrooks: i simply don't recall the URL, and don't want to miss anything here.
[03:29] <kbrooks> tovella: YOU, the helper, are expected to google and provide a link
[03:29] <daryl> bbrazil: i see.  you got any more suggestions, or should i save this for another day?
[03:29] <pianoboy3333> I need a good sound for when mail arrives, anyone got any good suggestions/files?
[03:29] <fourat> fiendskull9, i didnt understood what is easyubuntu
[03:29] <bbrazil> daryl: /sbin/ifconfig - is "lo" up and working?
[03:29] <pip`> the reason i hate windows is cuz of all the crappy vague error messages as well as lack of file control etc and security
[03:29] <kbrooks> tovella: you "simply don't recall the URL"? ummm, i suggest you google
[03:29] <Kyral> pianoboy3333: the most annoying thing you can think of :P
[03:29] <bbrazil> daryl: or easy way: ping localhost
[03:29] <spikeb> i just don't like windows. shrug
[03:30] <kbrooks> tovella: or use '!easyubuntu'
[03:30] <humbraro> pianoboy3333: search for you've got mail - that'll drive you nuts
[03:30] <fiendskull9> hey, im using breezy, is it using xorg 6.8 or above?
[03:30] <fourat> !easyubuntu
[03:30] <pianoboy3333> humbraro: ...
[03:30] <daryl> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:30] <daryl> bbrazil: <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:30] <BrandoCrap> do you guys recommend separate HDDs for dual-booting?
[03:30] <fiendskull9> !xorg
[03:30] <ubotu> xorg is, like, totally, To reconfigure your X server, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in a terminal, or check here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto or here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html
[03:30] <pip`> i am hoping one day i can make complete & perfect disk images, is there a preferred program for doing that with ubuntu ?
[03:30] <tino_> (translating 'about-ubuntu' which contains the frase: The Linux kernel has gained an ideological importance as well as a technical one) Q: should 'technical' be: 'technological'? or is that a technicality?
[03:31] <bbrazil> daryl: all looks good. any errors when you started up cupsys?
[03:31] <holysmoke> I keep getting an error about having to be root when I add a secondary harddrive to my system ... I used mkdir and added it to fstab but now it keeps saying you must be root to mount
[03:31] <fiendskull9> !xorg-version
[03:31] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, fiendskull9
[03:31] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> what do i do since 16 errors were reported
[03:31] <daryl> bbrazil: no
[03:31] <NoUse> BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO what are the errors in?
[03:31] <bbrazil> daryl: check the logs for errors - probably /var/log/daemon.log
[03:32] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> ICE UNIX
[03:32] <pip`> my it takes a long time to install such a little program like ubuntu
[03:32] <daryl> um looking
[03:32] <holysmoke> the secondary drive is just for storage
[03:32] <pip`> looks like it might even take as long as xp to install
[03:32] <bbrazil> pip`: I use partimage
[03:32] <wy> I'm looking for a jabber server written in C or C++
[03:32] <fourat> !ff1.5
[03:32] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:32] <pip`> partimage, ok
[03:32] <pip`> i'll check that one out first
[03:32] <FX> tovella, I'm back now
[03:32] <OneTruth> ok new problem, now when i try to restart openssh i get "cannot load host key"
[03:32] <NoUse> pip` what makes you say ubuntu is little?
[03:33] <OneTruth> "could not load host key" sorry
[03:33] <NoUse> OneTruth did you run it with sudo?
[03:33] <daryl> bbrazil: that log is huge.  what you looking for?
[03:33] <tovella> jarro1: kbrooks: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[03:33] <basilio> hi all
[03:33] <bbrazil> daryl: just search for cups
[03:33] <OneTruth> NoUse: ahhh nope :)
[03:33] <pip`> well i guess it isnt really little is it? but i thought generally linux oses were alot less bloated or big as windows
[03:33] <zcat[1] > pip`: the difference is, ubuntu will ask you for all the details first and then spend 40 minutes installing.. windows will go 10 minutes, ask for locale settings, 10 minutes, username, 10 minutes, cd key, 10 minutes, timezone.... it's maddening
[03:33] <OneTruth> NoUse:  Tada
[03:33] <basilio> im a newbie in linux in general....any other channel for beginners
[03:34] <NoUse> pip` ubuntu installs the OS, the office suite, internet software and chat sofware
[03:34] <pip`> zcat, yes i can appreciate that
[03:34] <jarro1> this easyubuntu thing looks like a hit, thank you very much
[03:34] <NoUse> pip` windows just isntalls windows
[03:34] <daryl> bbrazil: cups phrase not found
[03:34] <OneTruth> NoUse:  ok so i restarted networking now ifconfig shows the new static IP but i cannot ssh to it...
[03:34] <pip`> nouse, ohh wow nice
[03:34] <pip`> i like that
[03:34] <NoUse> OneTruth connection refused?
[03:34] <OneTruth> NoUse: yea...
[03:34] <daryl> ugh i'm late for an appointment i got to go
[03:34] <zcat[1] > NoUse: apart from OpenOffice, breezy doesn't really have anything on the default install XP doesn't...
[03:34] <NoUse> OneTruth did you restart ssh?
[03:34] <bbrazil> daryl: check /var/log/cups
[03:34] <tovella> jarro1: just curious - did you use google before i found the URL?
[03:34] <kbrooks> jarro1: channel is #easyubuntu
[03:35] <OneTruth> NoUse: just did
[03:35] <pip`> are there many or any background services running in ubuntu in general at startup ?
[03:35] <zcat[1] > dapper packages a bit more stuff though
[03:35] <spikeb> not many no
[03:35] <NoUse> zcat[1]  openoffice is worth a couple hundred extra megabytes
[03:35] <bbrazil> basilio: here is pretty good. Maybe read the beginners guide on tldp.org
[03:35] <pip`> like in windows
[03:35] <pip`> ?
[03:35] <jarro1> yea, i tried all kinds of stuff, mainly trying to get mplayer to install
[03:35] <NoUse> OneTruth try ssh localhost
[03:35] <jarro1> but i cant compile anything cuz i have no ide atf im doing
[03:35] <OneTruth> NoUse: hold on i may have two devies on that ip
[03:35] <jarro1> ^wtf
[03:36] <OneTruth> NoUse: that worked
[03:36] <tovella> FX: still get autoreply.
[03:36] <OneTruth> NoUse:  and i dont have two devices on the IP
[03:36] <watnu> ubugtu: mplayer
[03:36] <watnu> pff
[03:36] <NoUse> OneTruth make sure you have the right IP then, because the server is running and accepting connections
[03:37] <FX> hmm what do you mean by autoreply?
[03:37] <pyrotic> tell pyrotic about paste bin
[03:37] <odell> Hey all, using a Sager 9860 with a M5603C (Bison) webcam and Dapper. Was wondering if anyone knew of any drivers for this beast or if they are in development? There's some action in Gentoo, but was wondering if anyone had any news about Ubuntu.
[03:37] <pyrotic> somone tell me about pastebin so I can get the link
[03:37] <pyrotic> I forgot the link to it >.<
[03:37] <NoUse> !pastebin
[03:37] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:37] <pyrotic> Thanks
[03:37] <apokryphos> pyrotic: /msg ubotu pastebin
[03:37] <OneTruth> NoUse: ok heres some new info, when i try to restart networking i get a failed message
[03:38] <NoUse> OneTruth I have to go, sorry
[03:38] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> PEER
[03:38] <NoUse> BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO please shut off that script
[03:38] <OneTruth> NoUse:  No problem, thanks for the help!
[03:38] <basilio> bbrazil: can i connect mi ipod to ubuntu and sync the songs pretty much like itunes??
[03:38] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> fine
[03:38] <pyrotic> -------------- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13737 --------------------- Anyone?
[03:38] <pip`> will ubuntu give me admin access or no ?
[03:38] <apokryphos> BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO: please change or truncate your name. It's spammy and obtrusive.
[03:39] <bbrazil> basilio: apt-cache search ipod <-- should list one or two useful programs
[03:39] <pip`> yes that nick is a pain in the eyeass
[03:39] <BOOBOOBOOBOOBOO> fine
[03:40] <wre> ?
[03:40] <wre> owned?
[03:40] <tovella> pip`: by default, ubuntu gives the first "normal user" you created administrative rights, but you must use the "sudo" prefix.
[03:40] <pip`> haha yer just a shorty now :)
[03:40] <wre> p
[03:40] <wre> e
[03:40] <wre> e
[03:40] <wre> r
[03:40] <fourat> how to get easyubuntu ?
[03:40] <apokryphos> wre: what are you doing?
[03:40] <apokryphos> don't flood
[03:40] <wre> !easyubuntu
[03:40] <pip`> wats easyubuntu ?
[03:40] <pip`> !easyubuntu
[03:40] <arrick> anyone, why cant I copy files to a ftp site with the livecd firefox?
[03:41] <apokryphos> !+easybuntu
[03:41] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, apokryphos
[03:41] <bongshoe> i just installed 5.10 and rebooted and I get 'Loading GRUB... Error 2' ... any suggestions, urls, anything???
[03:41] <apokryphos> !+easyubuntu
[03:41] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/. If you want to chat about EasyUbuntu, please join #easyubuntu
[03:41] <arrick> what do I have to use on the livecd to do this?
[03:41] <pyrotic> ------------------- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13737 ------------------- anyone?
[03:41] <apokryphos> arrick: gftp, or even nautilus can
[03:41] <arrick> apokryphos, how do i access them in the live cd?
[03:41] <tovella> pip`: EasyUbuntu is an easy to use (duh!) script that gives the Ubuntu user the most commonly requested apps, codecs, and tweaks that are not found in the base distribution - all with a few clicks of your mouse. EasyUbuntu is so easy to use in fact, that even your grandma could be playing encrypted dvds, streaming Windows Media, and sporting the latest Nvidia or Ati drivers in minutes! And yes, EasyUbuntu is GPL.
[03:41] <basilio> bbrazil: is aptcache a webpage?
[03:42] <apokryphos> pyrotic: people have seen the posted link ("-------" really aren't necessary). If someone is able/willing to help, they will :)
[03:42] <bbrazil> basilio: it's a program. run it in a terminal
[03:42] <apokryphos> arrick: sudo apt-get install gftp
[03:42] <arrick> k
[03:42] <basilio> ok
[03:42] <wre> I GOT PEERED
[03:42] <basilio> let me try
[03:42] <arrick> no such packaged apokryphos
[03:42] <pyrotic> apokryphos My appologies, I only did that as a easier noticable...Won't do again, Thanks.
[03:42] <wy> I need some suggestions about a good jabber client
[03:42] <apokryphos> !info gftp
[03:43] <ubotu> gftp: (X/GTK+ FTP client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 2.0.18-10 (breezy), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 76 kB
[03:43] <AJR1> hey all, is it possible to install ubuntu mounting the image inside of windows to my external HD?
[03:43] <bbrazil> wy: psi isn't bad
[03:43] <bongshoe> i just installed 5.10 and rebooted and I get 'Loading GRUB... Error 2' ... can't boot any OS, how do i use the install CD to boot the installed copy?
[03:43] <apokryphos> arrick: ok, enable the universe repository and install. Though I'm pretty sure nautilus handles ftp too, doesn't it?
[03:43] <arrick> yeah I cant find eaither of them
[03:43] <apokryphos> bongshoe: /msg ubotu grub
[03:43] <djpirate> shut up don't talk.
[03:43] <apokryphos> djpirate: ?
[03:43] <djpirate> no u
[03:43] <pyrotic> Anybody know how to install tcltls?... when I tried, this is what happened, - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13737 -, I'm trying to get AMSN, to work.
[03:43] <tovella> wy: gaim is the IM i use. it works with jabber, among many other protocols.
[03:44] <apokryphos> djpirate: what are you talking about?
[03:44] <djpirate> WHY GOD WHY
[03:44] <djpirate> no u
[03:44] <apokryphos> arrick: nautilus is the file manager that comes in gnome
[03:45] <pip`> wow, i forgot i actually was installing edubuntu, instead of ubuntu, i hope its fairly the same
[03:45] <AJR1> can i burn a CD image to a DVD and install from there?
[03:45] <basilio> cool everiday i spend with linux im more impress and happy   =)
[03:45] <apokryphos> pip`: edubuntu is targetted at schools, with educational tools etc
[03:45] <apokryphos> quite dissimilar
[03:45] <djpirate> Awaken my biniling, and embrace the fgt that is your birthright. Know that I am djpirate; the eternal will of the LoL!!~, and that you have been created to serve me.
[03:46] <LinuxJones> djpirate: please stop talking
[03:46] <djpirate> good riddance
[03:46] <djpirate> I think I bsed bartman once
[03:46] <djpirate> no u
[03:46] <wy> tovella:  I want to test the jabber server I installed in my box
[03:46] <AJR1> rofl
[03:46] <BlueSwirl> huzzah
[03:46] <djpirate> greyhill probably joined this channel to idle like a rnd disp pnknz fgt.
[03:46] <bbrazil> apokryphos: thanks
[03:46] <greyhill> not random
[03:46] <AJR1> all : anyone know how to install ubuntu from a mounted image? or if not, then can i burn the CD image to DVD disc and install from there?
[03:46] <arrick> hes back alreasy
[03:46] <bartman> anyone experiencing "out of memory" issues after upgrading to new hald?
[03:46] <pip`> oh no, darn
[03:47] <wre> son of a .....
[03:47] <Brian_> hello everyone...i've got some questions about installing the new dapper beta
[03:47] <pip`> it looks like maybe i really need easyubuntu now, will it be easier now that i;ve already partitioned etc ?
[03:48] <apokryphos> Brian_: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support
[03:48] <QMario> Is there any good video editing software available for Ubuntu?
[03:48] <Brian_> ah, thanks a lot
[03:48] <Brian_> sorry to bother everyone =)
[03:48] <wre> my desktop is still not showing
[03:48] <apokryphos> Brian_: np :)
[03:48] <bbrazil> pip`: it's quite easy. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[03:49] <arrick> thanks apokryphos
[03:49] <LinuxJones> wre: what errors are showing when your desktop fails to come up
[03:49] <HIGH-FREQ> why do i keep gettin VFS: Cannot open root device "<NULL>" or unknown-block(3,1) Please append a correct root= boot option  ...... kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,1)
[03:49] <pip`> ahh ok, guess i'll reinstall over the top of edubuntu then ?
[03:49] <wre> none just blank
[03:49] <HIGH-FREQ> this is second kerenl i tried compiling and i can't figure it out
[03:49] <bbrazil> pip`: just do those instructions
[03:49] <QMario>  Is there any good video editing software available for Ubuntu?
[03:50] <LinuxJones> HIGH-FREQ: you don't have support for your filesystem compiled in your kernel
[03:50] <BlueSwirl> QMario: have you tried searching freshmeat and sourceforge?
[03:50] <tovella> QMario: kino works for some video formats.
[03:50] <HIGH-FREQ> linuxjones...its a *  for ext2,3,reiserfs
[03:50] <QMario> BlueSwirl, I found kino.
[03:50] <HIGH-FREQ> so its builtin
[03:50] <wre> is it possible to play windows games on linux?
[03:50] <LinuxJones> QMario: there are not any high quality ones as of yet
[03:50] <QMario> Are there any others?
[03:50] <pip`> hey guys, i already have kubuntu on cd, how does that compare to ubuntu or easyubuntu ?
[03:50] <BlueSwirl> QMario: have you tried kino?
[03:50] <apokryphos> pip`: kubuntu's the best :P
[03:50] <spikeb> pip`: it has kde instead of gnome.
[03:50] <greyhill> wre see www.winehq.org
[03:51] <apokryphos> pip`: it's worth trying out both gnome and kde, and seeing which you prefer. :)
[03:51] <QMario> Yes, but it is unable to open my .avi media files.
[03:51] <LinuxJones> HIGH-FREQ: do you have ide (or whatever kind of drive you have) support built into the kernel as well ?
[03:51] <pip`> ohh ok
[03:51] <BlueSwirl> QMario: ah boo. er, i'm stuck then :(
[03:52] <wre> is it possible from the prevous windows viruses?
[03:52] <HIGH-FREQ> LinuxJones: i've checked every single thing...lemme recheck...i followed the howtoes and all that..but i'm gnona double check "everything"
[03:52] <eggzeck> wre, what do you mean?
[03:53] <wre> i had viruses on window prevously before switching
[03:53] <eggzeck> wre, they're not there anymore
[03:53] <_jason> the man page for wget (specifically options -A and -R) refers to ``@pxref{Types of Files}''  What does that mean?  Where can I find that?
[03:53] <greyhill> wre there were some attempts to run windows viruses on wine but they went poorly :)
[03:53] <wy> I can't find openssl-dev from apt-cache search. why?
[03:53] <tovella> QMario: cinellera is a more capable video editor, but you won't find it in the ubuntu repositories.
[03:53] <eggzeck> wre, assuming you installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu and erased the entire windows partition
[03:54] <wre> i can't even get into my DESKTOp
[03:54] <greyhill> wre in windows, right?
[03:54] <LinuxJones> HIGH-FREQ: the ubuntu kernels use an initrd so most of the things like ide support are built as modules.
[03:54] <wre> used to be
[03:54] <wre> it wasent installed by me
[03:55] <bbrazil> _jason: that looks like a macro of some form. I'd say file a bug on it
[03:55] <HIGH-FREQ> LinuxJones: ya i seen that....
[03:55] <cpl_h38f49> couple rive sud de mtl cherche couple ce soir....!!!
[03:56] <bbrazil> !fr
[03:56] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:56] <_jason> bbrazil: ah, that does make sense.  Thanks
[03:56] <QMario> Thank you guys!!! :)
[03:57] <wre> maybe F2
[03:57] <bbrazil> _jason: looks fine in the HTML version
[03:57] <pyrotic> Can anybody help me install a printer?
[03:57] <pip`> killer clowns from outer space
[03:59] <pyrotic> I need help installing a Brother MFC 420CN Network Printer
[03:59] <majd> hi, is it possible to rip a cd to mp3?
[03:59] <_jason> bbrazil: not here, http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/display_man.cgi?id=d62cafa47459361dda6204acaa3fb63f&format=html maybe it's a debian problem
[03:59] <pip`> ppl in here are very helpful,
[03:59] <LinuxJones> pyrotic: sudo gnome-cups-manager and follow the prompts
[03:59] <wre> dang it
[03:59] <_jason> bbrazil: scratch that, I see it on gentoo's site too
[04:00] <LinuxJones> pyrotic: if the exact model isn't shown pick the closest one and it will likely work fine.
[04:00] <pyrotic> pyrotic@ubuntu:~$ sudo gnome-cups-manager
[04:00] <pyrotic> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May  9 19:35:57 2006
[04:00] <pyrotic> pyrotic@ubuntu:~$
[04:00] <pyrotic> woops!
[04:01] <bbrazil> _jason: just filing the bug now, what version are you running, I only have haory and sarge to hand
[04:01] <Awesome-o2000> Ive tried everything I can, regardless of what I do my system halts if I try to start x with dri enabled. I beg for help. x800gto agp256mb
[04:01] <pyrotic> timestamp too far in the future?????
[04:01] <LinuxJones> pyrotic: I don't know what the hell is up with that.
[04:01] <greyhill> pyrotic been playing with date?
[04:01] <wy> I'm trying to install jabberd2. It needn't the header files of openssl. But I can't find them in Ubuntu distribution.
[04:01] <_jason> bbrazil: I'm running 1.10.2-1ubuntu1 on dapper, link me to the bug and I'll confirm
[04:01] <pyrotic> LinuxJones ..me neither..
[04:01] <pyrotic> greyhill yea been trying to get it correct but everything I change, it stays to whatever the hell it wants to...
[04:02] <Awesome-o2000> fglrx-compatible libdri.a library to fix drmMap problem <--- this appears to be a solution for me, but I dont know what to do with a libdri.a file
[04:02] <Carbon_Monoxide> Hello everybody!
[04:02] <wre> grrr
[04:02] <Tedd> rrrg
[04:02] <bongshoe> it'd be really cool if GRUB had some kind of fail-safe mechanism rather than just saying something incoherent like "Error 2" and dying a miserable death
[04:02] <erisco_> hello
[04:03] <teimu> what plugin should i be using to view windows media for firefox?'
[04:03] <Tedd> teimu, m-player
[04:03] <majd> is it possible to rip a cd to mp3?
[04:03] <erisco_> I am having a problem with totem
[04:03] <Tedd> with w32codecs
[04:03] <wre> what is GRUB
[04:03] <majd> !rip mp3
[04:03] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, majd
[04:03] <majd> !mp3
[04:03] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:03] <Tedd> wre, grand unified bootloader
[04:03] <bbrazil> _jason: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/wget/+bug/43930
[04:03] <pyrotic> ** (gnome-cups-manager:14131): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1030
[04:03] <teimu> Tedd, where can i get the w32 codecx?
[04:03] <pyrotic> what's that mean???
[04:03] <erisco_> I am not sure why, however when I view some .wmv files, they try to open in the browser
[04:03] <Tedd> if you have more than one OS on one computer you'd want it, wre
[04:03] <Tedd> teimu: www.wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:03] <spikeb> teimu: mplayer, totem, kaffeine...
[04:03] <erisco_> when they do open in the browser, it locks up after a few seconds
[04:03] <Tedd> that should gvie you some good advice teimu
[04:03] <erisco_> how can I stop this?
[04:03] <teimu> Tedd, thanks!
[04:04] <Tedd> No big, teimu, I was a newb once :P
[04:04] <pyrotic> how do I know what the URL is for the printer?
[04:04] <wre> when i first start up it says "loading GRUB"
[04:04] <teimu> Tedd, hey now! just because im asking for help doesnt mean im a newb =), or maybe it does?
[04:05] <wre> but i let it set for 1hr and it still was loading
[04:05] <Carbon_Monoxide> Read some references about Linux boot loader, wre
[04:05] <TTT_Travis> hey guys just released Ubuntu Center for the people that were here last night that didn't see it,
[04:05] <TTT_Travis> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Center_Alpha_1_Released_-_Web_Based_Ubuntu_Control
[04:05] <Tedd> teimu: 'sall good, I ask for help all the time and I"ve been using ubuntu for eight months :P
[04:05] <TTT_Travis> check it out
[04:05] <_jason> bbrazil: hmm you think it's the same as https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/wget/+bug/14950 ?
[04:05] <TTT_Travis> I encourage everyone to try it out if you haven't already
[04:05] <pyrotic> brb
[04:05] <pyrotic> !brb
[04:05] <ubotu> pyrotic: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[04:05] <Tedd> wre: So? Why do you ask?
[04:05] <wre> and where is that
[04:05] <bbrazil> _jason: possibly related, but it looks like a seperate bug
[04:05] <wre> !grub
[04:05] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:06] <wre> i do not know i am new to this
[04:06] <Tedd> wre: Why do you need to know about GRUB? Do you have more than one OS on your machine?
[04:07] <wre> OS?
[04:07] <Tedd> operating system.
[04:07] <wre> yes
[04:07] <BlueSwirl> like windows, mac os, linux etc
[04:07] <Tedd> Does GRUB load and let you choose which you want to use, wre?
[04:07] <wre> nope
[04:07] <Tedd> then install GRUB with the link Ubotu gave you.
[04:08] <roger_mudd> Hotplug subsystem really slowing down my boot time. Anybody else ever have issues with this? Any way to verify and rectify the problem?
[04:08] <greyhill> grub's installed by default even for single-boot systems, isn't it?
[04:08] <Tedd> greyhill, I believed sotoo.
[04:08] <wre> im using window right now
[04:08] <_jason> bbrazil: k, confirmed.  Thanks
[04:09] <roger_mudd> greyhill: I believe so as well. It's need to run older kernels, no?
[04:09] <roger_mudd> needed
[04:09] <Joetheodd> Hey, I've asked this before, but forgot.. how do you convert a BIN && CUE -> ISO?
[04:09] <bongshoe> if i already installed ubuntu and i want to skip ahead to just fix GRUB can i use expert mode or some other boot param or do i have to copy the whole thing again..
[04:09] <Carbon_Monoxide> true
[04:10] <greyhill> roger_mudd I think so.  I have the feeling a few old version of the kernel stick around and then ... maybe are automagically removed?
[04:10] <Joetheodd> Ah, nevermind.. found it - bchunk.
[04:10] <roger_mudd> I don't know that much about kernels, but I think they remain on the system. You can remove them from GRUB, however, by deleting them from the list.
[04:11] <Carbon_Monoxide> greyhil: removed?
[04:11] <greyhill> carbon_monoxide wild speculation - are old kernels removed by dpkg?
[04:11] <cafuego> greyhill: No, they aren't.
[04:11] <greyhill> caruego danke :)
[04:12] <TTT_Travis> if anyone decides to install ubuntu center please let me know how it turns out at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1000274
[04:12] <Carbon_Monoxide> I didn't upgrade my kernel, but I don't think it will be removed automatically
[04:12] <cafuego> Removing an old (working) kernel before running a new (untested) one would be BAD[tm]
[04:12] <wre> hmm...
[04:12] <wre> maybe i should insert the LIVE CD
[04:13] <roger_mudd> Hotplug subsystems:  Anyone.... Anyone... Beuller.... Bueller? I think it may be related to my external USB hard drive (which I cannot access).
[04:13] <wre> version5.10
[04:13] <Carbon_Monoxide> The installation is easy enough, wre. Choose your option carefully in EVERY steps.
[04:14] <wre> .....
[04:14] <Zetx> I'm using a marvel card and the sky2 module and my dmesg keeps telling me that the "Link is down" then shortly after "Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex, flow control none" ... I'm assuming that it's turning on and off or something. Any remedies (that doesn't require me buying a new card)?
[04:14] <Carbon_Monoxide> As I recall my memory, there was an option asking you that if you have another OS pre-installed on your system.
[04:15] <Drake> I have read on the forums of people have problems mount/umounting/ejecting cdroms from nautilus and I haven't seen a solution that works for me yet. I can moun/umount/eject from the command line but not in the gui
[04:15] <greyhill> roger_mudd when I used archlinux lshwd was faster for me than hotplug, but it's not in apt ( http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HotPlug )
[04:16] <roger_mudd> What exactly is hotplug? Just modules that allow communication between your OS and hardware... right?
[04:16] <wre> should i enter normal or recovery mode
[04:17] <Carbon_Monoxide> Actually, you can try to configure in GRUB and make the pointer to locate on the boot sector of your Ubuntu installed
[04:17] <pyrotic> Ok, anybody able toa ssist me?
[04:17] <pyrotic> assist*
[04:17] <wre> and how do i do that?
[04:17] <greyhill> roger_mudd hotplug loads the kernel modules that do the talking, I think
[04:18] <wre> i'm given 3 modes
[04:18] <pyrotic> I need help in installing a Network printer, I'm stumped at... where it asks me to insert the URL...?
[04:18] <roger_mudd> Ahhh.... Are they're necessary? This post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491&referrerid=48700 seems to indicate that they are not.
[04:18] <roger_mudd> "Are they"
[04:19] <wre> norm recover and memtest86+
[04:19] <bongshoe> so aparently the latest kernel basically doesn't work with SCSI drives.. how nice of the installer to inform me of that before i wasted 5 hours on this PoS
[04:19] <bongshoe> goodbye ubuntu
[04:19] <tanq> i thought i read that in linux magazine.
[04:20] <greyhill> roger_mudd I guess if you find every module you need and write it into /etc/modules you'd be okay.
[04:20] <tanq> or that may have been the article on 64 bit ubuntu.
[04:20] <pyrotic> Can anybody help me install a network printer, 'Brother MFC 420CN' to be exact... what do I put in the URL blank..?
[04:20] <CaBlGuY> howdy peeps..
[04:20] <TTT_Travis> Amaranth, I released Ubuntu Center today, you can digg it and get it from here:  http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ubuntu_Center_Alpha_1_Released_-_Web_Based_Ubuntu_Control
[04:20] <Amaranth> cool
[04:21] <murph2481> how do i put a 2 second pause between tracks when burning with k3b?
[04:21] <schmity> hey
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> what
[04:21] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:21] <schmity> I LOVE YOU
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> :-O
[04:22] <schmity> ubuntu stops on start up
[04:22] <roger_mudd> greyhill: This is one of the error messages I'm getting from "dmesg"  usb 5-3: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> Mmmmmm
[04:22] <schmity> like right before login screen
[04:22] <roger_mudd> Does that look familiar to anyone?
[04:22] <schmity> it just stops
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> U need to re-install
[04:22] <schmity> i have
[04:22] <schmity> like 5 times
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> Oh..
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> Umm
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> whats yur setup?
[04:22] <Kr0ntab> pyrotic, how is it being shared?  is it using an HP jet direct card?  or windows share?  or unix print services on windows?
[04:22] <roger_mudd> schmity: did you check your CD?
[04:22] <schmity> well it used to work
[04:22] <CaBlGuY> Or.. do u have the latest distro?
[04:23] <schmity> but then it all the sudden
[04:23] <schmity> would stop loading up
[04:23] <greyhill> roger_mudd (sounds over my head) do you know what device that is? ( lsusb )
[04:23] <schmity> its the Free cds from ubuntu
[04:23] <schmity> i have a g4 powermac
[04:23] <wre> peer
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> OK.. so.. maybe u could DL the latest distro..
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> and try that..
[04:23] <pyrotic> Krontab I have it hooked up t my Wireless Router, this computer is on Ubuntu, and my laptop runs XP Pro, and they both need printing capabilities..
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> yuk.. Mac..
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:23] <wre> WHAT MODE SHOULD I ENTER?
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> j/k
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> Nooo... :0O
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> u
[04:24] <pyrotic> Krontab I put in the IP address, that the Printer "holds" as the URL.. and clicked next, now it asks to select a printer Driver, well, it doesn't list my printer in there... and I was told to find the one closest to my printer,, what would that be?
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> Mac basher basher U..
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> :p
[04:24] <roger_mudd> Could be my USB hard drive. Could be a 6-in-1 internal card reader. I'm not sure. "lsusb" only shows me the active USB devices. Those two don't work right now.
[04:24] <CaBlGuY> wre.. whats yur prob?
[04:24] <wre> NO DESKTOP
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> Ahh
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> ok..
[04:25] <Carbon_Monoxide> wre : read this : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RecoveringGrub#head-778ecd20f83f92ebaa5aaec5f1b4615539c2f8d3
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> and yur in text mode only?
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> "command line"..
[04:25] <wre> nope
[04:25] <wre> just a blank screen
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> Oh..
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> video drivers..
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> what vid card ya got?
[04:26] <greyhill> roger_mudd yech, idk.  you think hotplug is choking on those devices for a while during boot?
[04:26] <Kr0ntab> pyrotic, http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/lpr_drivers.html
[04:26] <wre> 32-bit
[04:26] <Kr0ntab> your printer is listed...
[04:26] <roger_mudd> I think so. I've got to split for a second. BRB.
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> wre ok but what brand,..
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> need the correct drivers..
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> !ubotu no video
[04:27] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, CaBlGuY
[04:27] <wre> 1 driver /c
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmm
[04:28] <g0dchild> what do you guys use to split a tar.gz file?
[04:28] <Kr0ntab> pyrotic, it's in an RPM... you'll have to extract the driver and place it in your PPD directory...
[04:28] <g0dchild> into a 700 MB CD?
[04:28] <pyrotic> Krontab FYI - I'm a NeWb...
[04:28] <CaBlGuY> well, whatever video card u have, I would suggest finding the latest drivers compatable with Lnuix.. and go form there
[04:28] <g0dchild> please. some help?
[04:28] <CaBlGuY> Ummm
[04:28] <MacSlow> hm... some updates ago gstreamer stopped working for hd-quicktime clips.
[04:28] <Kr0ntab> pyrotic, im getting ya instructions... brb
[04:28] <spikeb> imagine that, gstreamer not working
[04:29] <greyhill> lol
[04:29] <shrewduser> guys, what's a good downloader to run in tan with firefox? i need something that can download off multiple sources simultaneously
[04:29] <pyrotic> Krontab I think I found instructions.. One second.
[04:29] <Kr0ntab> cool
[04:29] <wre> i cannot afford a new drivwe
[04:29] <CaBlGuY> g0dchild ok, yur tryin to do what with the file? Burn, wathc, ? or what?
[04:29] <CaBlGuY> wre no, driveR for the video card...
[04:30] <pyrotic> Krontab scratch that, they aren't in structions.. >.<
[04:30] <wre> no clue
[04:30] <CaBlGuY> wre, sorry, that's the best I know what to do is install the latest driver for your video card..
[04:31] <CaBlGuY> that should take care of the problem..
[04:31] <CaBlGuY> corse, ya have to know what driver to get..
[04:31] <CaBlGuY> Howdy ray_ O/
[04:31] <ray_> anybody know why it won't play podcasts? it says it shows as an mp3 but has html
[04:31] <mkoby> Hi all, I'm running Breezy, and I was wondering how to add an entry to my PATH?
[04:32] <pyrotic> Krontab - I'll watch for your post of instructions..until then, me zipped lips.. :)
[04:32] <CaBlGuY> ray_ im not versed in the poscasting so I wouldn't know about that...
[04:32] <g0dchild> CaBlGuY, am trying to make a backup of apt's cache and settings inside /etc/apt and then use them elsewhere on an offline machine :)
[04:33] <greyhill> mkoby first edit ~/.bash_profile
[04:33] <CaBlGuY> g0dchild ummmm ok.. so all u need to do is burn those aps to a CD then..
[04:33] <mkoby> greyhill: thanks.
[04:33] <pip`> is Breezy any good ?
[04:34] <ray_> anybody know why it won't play podcasts? it says it shows as an mp3 but has html
[04:34] <Milk_> is there a way to list files recursevly with their sizes?
[04:34] <CaBlGuY> if I remember right, theres a newer version./..
[04:34] <greyhill> mkoby then if you want X to get load it, create .xsession with "source /path/to/home/.bash_profile \newline exec gnome-session" or whatever you use for wm
[04:35] <greyhill> silly X won't invoke .bash_rc by default
[04:35] <CaBlGuY> Be Right Back. i'm gonna switch over..
[04:35] <AnsiC> hello
[04:35] <AnsiC> how can i set the repository on synaptic for install mplayer ?
[04:36] <cafuego> Milk_: ls -lR ?
[04:36] <greyhill> mkoby last when you log in from gdm, make sure you select "system default"
[04:36] <cafuego> ls -sR is less spammy
[04:36] <pyrotic> Krontab find anything?
[04:36] <orbin> AnsiC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[04:37] <Milk_> cafuego, let me ask a more pointed question..  I need to clear out some drive space and I want to see where I have large files hiding
[04:37] <Drake_> I have read on the forums about people have problems mount/umount/eject through nautilus and I haven't found a solution that works for me yet. I can mount/umount/eject from the command line but not through the gui
[04:37] <|Sivik|> anyone here know how to get chroot to work
[04:38] <ermac> hola
[04:39] <ermac> hey no caho na
[04:39] <amicrawler> where do i find all the deb pkgs
[04:39] <ermac> recien empece ubuntu
[04:40] <ray_> anybody know why it won't play podcasts? it says it shows as an mp3 but has html
[04:40] <puff> Evening, looking for a little help with wireless.
[04:40] <wre> wre
[04:41] <bbrazil> Milk_: "du -sh *" is the way I do it
[04:41] <puff> Specifically, when I go to my favorite hotspot and do "ifup eth1", ubuntu latches onto a not-so-near access point instead of the hotspot access point.  There's gotta be more precise way to control it...
[04:41] <bbrazil> Milk_: or http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~bbrazil/matrix/scripts/src/largest20
[04:42] <puff> du -sh * | sort -n
[04:42] <greyhill> puff have you looked at /etc/network/interfaces ?
[04:42] <CaBlGuY> K back..  In ubuntu now.  :)