[02:31] <_nano_> Slart, ikonia_ : the server has a user that can read USB mounted device. since sshfs mounts only the home directory. I just created a symlink from the home directory to the usb mount
[02:31] <Farhadix> how?
[02:31] <neozen> fallingdutch: no mon.... that only works for intel cards
[02:31] <nn531> i have an adesklet problem can anyone assist?
[02:31] <_nano_> Slart, ikonia_ : although i can browse through the symlink using ssh ..but sshfs doesn't show it
[02:31] <ravi_master> mike10, try resizing the deluge window out a bit, adjust panes, see if you get a refresh which gets all your files displayed again.
[02:31] <ali1234> my eth0 (10/100 8139too) is transfering data at 4kbyte/sec and stalling after every 50k or so. none of the other machines on the switch have a problem. how can i figure out what's wrong?
[02:32] <Aat56> neozen would you have intell about that, what to do when windoze can go with current monitor to ~1280x1024@85Hz some 32 million? colors but x doesnt go past 1024x768@60hz, i810 is the driver
[02:32] <ravi_master> ali, I might now
[02:32] <fallingdutch> oh neozen ... sorry
[02:32] <Slart> _nano_: hmm.. never tried anything fancy like that... sorry, I don't think i'll be able to help you much
[02:32] <ravi_master> ali, adjust your ethernet interface with ethtool, was talking about it just a few seconds ago
[02:32] <swany> waiting for the program to load :( seems VERY slow
[02:32] <ravi_master> !ethtool > ali1234
[02:32] <mike1o> !anybody
[02:32] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:32] <_nano_> Slart, is there a way to mount a usb device to the home directory instead of /media/FAT32 ?
[02:33] <ikonia_> _nano_ man mount
[02:33] <mike1o> a good torrent client
[02:33] <Slart> _nano_: I've made a directory under my home dir for my own mounted stuff
[02:33] <neozen> Aat56: 915resolution might help you
[02:33] <ikonia_> mike1o what about one ?
[02:33] <ravi_master> mike1o, try resizing the deluge window out a bit, adjust panes, see if you get a refresh which gets all your files displayed again.
[02:33] <neozen> Aat56: cannot be sure
[02:33] <Slart> _nano_: mount points can be just about anywhere I think
[02:33] <_nano_> ikonia_, i meant the devices that are automatically mounted
[02:33] <Aat56> ook thanks
[02:33] <ikonia_> Slart totally
[02:33] <ravi_master> mike1o, I use a wined uTorrent
[02:33] <ikonia_> _nano_ so unmount it
[02:33] <Farhadix> thanx all, I'm going to test
[02:33] <swany> it played for a bit then stopped half way through
[02:33] <neozen> Aat56: check its docs (man 915resolution)
[02:33] <_nano_> ikonia_, alright
[02:34] <ravi_master> swany: and what happnenned to the repeating sound?
[02:34] <swany> i'm still getting a repetative start sound like its slowly moving through the tune
[02:34] <mike1o> ravi_master, must be a bug in the python source
[02:34] <ravi_master> mike1o, yep
[02:34] <neozen> Aat56: but I'd be surprised if it doesn't help you
[02:34] <Slart> by the way.. anyone know why ubuntu insists on mounting hard drives under /media instead of /mnt ? some paradigm change I've missed?
[02:34] <ali1234> ravi_master: i'll give it a go, but i'm not using samba
[02:34] <ikonia_> Slart thats the hal / dbus rules in gnome
[02:34] <ravi_master> ali1234, doesn't matter, ethtool is for all your network connections
[02:35] <Aat56> neozen thanks, i'll test that then
[02:35] <swany> i tried playing the file again but its repeating too now
[02:35] <ravi_master> ali1234, where network==ethernet
[02:35] <Slart> ikonia_: ah.. ok.. let's blame the gnome then =)
[02:35] <ikonia_> Slart you can change it I beleive
[02:35] <neozen> Aat56: kk, good luck to you
[02:35] <ikonia_> Slart I've not made custom rules for that sort of thing for a while
[02:35] <Slart> ikonia_: nah.. I don't mind.. just wondered
[02:35] <ravi_master> swany, hold on, I will look for a sound reset command
[02:35] <wols> question: does ubuntu come with nvidia drivers and ati fglrx directly out of the box.Ie. Are those drivers binaries directly on the CD?
[02:35] <ikonia_> wols no
[02:35] <wols> thanks
[02:35] <ikonia_> wols there are in the "nonfree"repo
[02:36] <stefg> !nvidia | wols
[02:36] <wols> ok. same like debian then
[02:36] <ubotu> wols: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:36] <ali1234> ravi_master: i know. but for me samba connections have always been slow. most other stuff normally isn't.
[02:36] <ravi_master> ali1234, if most of the other stuff is just dealing with web pages, etc, you might not realize it because of the data sizes involved.
[02:37] <swany> ravi_master it seems to be slowing my whole computer down to a crawl :S
[02:37] <neozen> ravi_master: where might these transmission errors appear?
[02:37] <ali1234> ravi_master: most of the other stuff involves transfering raw digital video
[02:37] <ravi_master> neozen: ifconfig
[02:37] <ali1234> hence why i don't use samba
[02:37] <neozen> ravi_master: kk
[02:37] <ravi_master> ali1234: try ifconfig and see if you have any errors
[02:37] <ali1234> ravi_master: no errors
[02:38] <Shane-S> will there be a firefox 2 released via synaptic for Ubunut?
[02:38] <ravi_master> ali1234, so you are saying you have a problem with samba connecting to an external server, correct?
[02:38] <ikonia_> Shane-S its in endgy
[02:38] <ikonia_> Shane-S no sine of a back port yet
[02:38] <ravi_master> ali1234, check that the settings on the other end, on the server, are good too.
[02:38] <ikonia_> sine ??? sighn
[02:38] <ikonia_> sign
[02:38] <ikonia_> ughh
[02:38] <ali1234> ravi_master: no, not at all. i'm not using samba at all
[02:38] <ravi_master> ali1234, then please explain your problem clearly.
[02:39] <ali1234> ravi_master: the problem is that any kind of tcp/ip connection will stall after about 50kb, and the total maximum throughput of the 100mbit card is currently 4kbyte/sec
[02:39] <ikonia_> ali1234 including say scp and http
[02:39] <ali1234> ravi_master: as in, http, ftp, ssh, anything really
[02:39] <ikonia_> ?
[02:39] <wols> Shane-S: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IceWeasel
[02:39] <ikonia_> ali1234 then either your network card driver is weak or your lan has an issue
[02:40] <ravi_master> ali1234... I'm not a networking expert but how many computers do you have on this network of yours?
[02:41] <ravi_master> ikonia_, you wanna take this one? I left swany out in the cold.
[02:41] <ali1234> ravi_master: 3, not including the ones that are turned off. and one is the router.
[02:41] <ravi_master> swany, yt?
[02:41] <billy> gosta slide.
[02:41] <swany> yt?
[02:41] <Berad`> I did a fresh install of ubuntu last night then tried installing eclipse sdk, said eclipse could not be found
[02:41] <Berad`> path not found i believe
[02:41] <ikonia_> ali1234 is the problem the same going from/to all hosts - or between two other hosts, or just your current PC
[02:41] <neozen> swany: yt? = you there
[02:41] <ikonia_> Berad` alter the path then
[02:41] <ravi_master> ali1234, and what about that 1 other computer you have, can you connect to everything from there fine?
[02:41] <swany> yeah
[02:42] <Berad`> ikonia: To what? Oo
[02:42] <ikonia_> Berad` where ever the application is
[02:42] <ravi_master> swany, just wanted to make sure before I started looking for a solution again.
[02:42] <ali1234> ikonia_: problem only affects the PC in question. the other workstation can transfer at full speed from internet sites, or from the router machine. the problem PC cannot transfer successfully from any site
[02:42] <zach_> what's the best torrent software for ubuntu?
[02:42] <ikonia_> ali1234 ok so its most probably either your network card/driver or your routing
[02:42] <swany> my sb live (livedrive II) cant play any sounds as it just repeats fractions of a second while going through slowing down my pc
[02:43] <ikonia_> zach_ thats just personal opinion
[02:43] <ikonia_> zach_ try some
[02:43] <Slart> zach_: I use azureus.. works for me
[02:43] <Pici> !torrent | zach_
[02:43] <ubotu> zach_: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[02:43] <ali1234> ikonia_: honestly i suspect hardware but i cannot find a single error message in dmesg, /var/log/messages, ifconfig etc.
[02:43] <ravi_master> swany, do a cat /proc/asound/modules and pastebin it
[02:43] <zach_> allright, thanks guys
[02:43] <ravi_master> ali1234, none of the other computers on this network have a problem?
[02:43] <swany>  0 snd_emu10k1
[02:43] <swany>  1 snd_via82xx
[02:44] <neozen> zach_: azureus gobbles ram... especially the one in the repos
[02:44] <ali1234> no, none of them have any kind of problem at all
[02:44] <_3dc> ui, so many ppl here :) hi
[02:44] <Aat56> Nameeater
[02:44] <swany> i have an onboard sound card but its disabled in the bios
[02:44] <ravi_master> _3dc, got a prob?
[02:44] <Aat56> ops nothing
[02:44] <neozen> zach_: I'd recommend at least 512mb ram to run comfortably
[02:44] <_3dc> yeah ravi, just a small question :)
[02:45] <ali1234> i doubt it is a routing problem since all i did was plug all the machines into a switch, then plug that into an ipcop box. and that's all worked fine for two years...
[02:45] <neozen> ali1234: my nature says stick it on the card
[02:45] <ali1234> and yeah... i have tried a different switch, and different cables :/
[02:46] <neozen> ali1234: nics are cheap
[02:46] <Crazytom> ali1234, sometimes ports in a switch die,  did you try and switch one of them around and see if the problem moves
[02:46] <ravi_master> swany
[02:46] <neozen> 10-20 should set you up
[02:46] <neozen> if that
[02:46] <ravi_master> got a solution, second post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=307246
[02:46] <ali1234> this one is on board
[02:46] <ravi_master> _3dc, go right ahead
[02:46] <neozen> ali1234: ewww... drag mon.....
[02:46] <mr_grump5> billy:i fixed the grub thingy with xp!!
[02:46] <swany> k i'll have a look cheers ravi_master
[02:47] <neozen> big drag when onboard stuff starts to go kaboom
[02:47] <ravi_master> mr_grump5, that's the worst fix I've heard in my life
[02:47] <lastn0de> #ubuntu-effects is idle. if someone here can help with fglrx trouble shooting, please let me know. thanks.
[02:47] <mike1o> is bittornado better than deluge torrent?
[02:47] <ikonia_> mike1o try it and see - its personal opinion
[02:47] <Mats> any gimp irc channel?
[02:47] <ravi_master> mik1o, it's a matter of preference
[02:47] <mr_grump5> ravi_master: i beleive i never spoke to u
[02:47] <skuld> Hey all, I'm looking for help setting up my wireless.
[02:47] <ikonia_> lastn0de keep the patience in #ubuntu-effects
[02:48] <ravi_master> mr_grump5, and I don't believe I spoke to you either.
[02:48] <Mats> Is there a Gimp-channel on IRC?
[02:48] <lastn0de> ikonia, sure, :-) rebooting to try a howto in any case. brb
[02:48] <_3dc> ravi_master: I do have a shellscript, which restarts an gameserver if it crashes. if i use the command manually, so it works and does not crash. so i have an endless loop if i use the script.
[02:48] <_3dc> i'll post the script now:
[02:48] <ravi_master> wait wait wait
[02:48] <ravi_master> paste into pastebin
[02:49] <neozen> _3dc: post to pastebin
[02:49] <_3dc> oky
[02:49] <ravi_master> Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:49] <_muelli_> is there a way to prevent ubuntu from deleting /tmp while booting?
[02:49] <neozen> ravi_master: how long does stuff get saved there? ... I've always wondered
[02:49] <javaJake> Mats, #gimp :)
[02:49] <ikonia_> _muelli_ not really
[02:49] <Omeil> Error: This version of PyQt requires SIP v4.5.1 or later??
[02:49] <gepatino> _muelli_: try disabling tmpreaper
[02:49] <Mats> How to erase stuff in layers in gimp so you see the background in the underlaying layer? It's called "background eraser tool in photoshop...
[02:50] <Mats> ok, thanks!
[02:50] <_muelli_> wenn ikonia. that sucks.. is there no way of interactive booting? Like "press Y to start ..." ?
[02:50] <ravi_master> neozen, no idea - probably a couple of weeks
[02:50] <ikonia_> _muelli_ its good that it clears down temp though
[02:50] <_muelli_> what do you mean  gepatino?
[02:50] <Cave`> I've seen some screenshots where there are an applications bar (gnome). I don't think it's gdesklets, what can it be, any1?
[02:50] <ikonia_> _muelli_
[02:50] <ikonia_> oops
[02:50] <_3dc> so i did: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11495/
[02:51] <_muelli_> well ikonia. not in my case actually ;-) My session just went out of power and I have some data in /tmp
[02:51] <swany> ravi_master how do i edit a file when not in root mode (if you know what i mean)
[02:51] <ikonia_> _muelli_ well thats just an accident
[02:51] <ikonia_> _muelli_ as a general rule of thumb - its good
[02:51] <mikewdhd> Mats: You're talking about erasing stuff on the active layer or one below it?
[02:51] <_muelli_> :D
[02:51] <ikonia_> _muelli_ you could have booted into single user mode
[02:51] <_muelli_> hm. you mean it doesn't run initscripts then?
[02:51] <ikonia_> _muelli_ no
[02:51] <ikonia_> _muelli_ well, not all of them
[02:51] <_muelli_> but at least init=/bin/bash should work.. yeah..
[02:52] <neozen> yay while(true)!
[02:52] <mla> Hello
[02:52] <ikonia_> _muelli_ yup
[02:52] <neozen> lol
[02:52] <_muelli_> but it's not really convenient though ikonia_ :-\
[02:52] <ravi_master> swany, sudo <COMMAND>
[02:52] <ikonia_> _muelli_ then search the init scripts for the clean down process and write your own function
[02:52] <_muelli_> ikonia_: Gentoo f.e. has the ability of "Interactive booting" which is quite useful in some cases
[02:52] <Mats> mikewdhd: on the active layer
[02:52] <ikonia_> _muelli_ this isn't gentoo
[02:52] <gepatino> _muelli_: tmpreaper is an utility that deletes temp files, is runned by anacron
[02:52] <swany> whats a text editor i can use in the console?
[02:52] <ravi_master> _3dc: go ahead with the issue you are having with this script
[02:53] <mikewdhd> Mats: It's not simply erase?
[02:53] <Slart> swany: try just "editor"
[02:53] <gepatino> _muelli_: i think you can disable it from /etc/defaults/tmpreaper
[02:53] <Mats> Hm, maybe, I'll try!
[02:53] <Omeil> so no one knows why Error: This version of PyQt requires SIP v4.5.1 or later?
[02:53] <CapaH> Every 30 times I reboot the machine I get this: harddrive has been mounted 30 times without being checked, check forced ---- Can someone explain to me how to run this check myself before ubuntu does, the 30 times mark can be frustrating if lets say I have to attend a meeting, and that just happens to be the 30th time ... anyone?
[02:53] <ikonia_> _3dc this isn't a shell scripting class - join #bash for shell scripting help
[02:53] <ravi_master> fsck
[02:53] <ikonia_> gepatino thats handy to know
[02:53] <_muelli_> hm. gepatino. I would have to boot the machine for that. And then it would clean up /tmp/. but thanks for yuor advice :) I will go with init=/bin/bash or so
[02:53] <gepatino> _muelli_: anyway, it's not a good practice to save usefull things in /tmp, it's supposed to be just that.. temporary
[02:54] <neozen> swany: nano, vim, emacs ...... those are your big 3
[02:54] <_3dc> ok, i'll ask there. thx ikonia_
[02:54] <ali1234> CapaH: boot into single user mode from the boot menu, then run fsck. other wise it will complain that your filesystems are mounted
[02:54] <_muelli_> yeah.. but f*cking ACPI dies on hibernate. So the system didn't tell me about passing out;-)
[02:54] <ikonia_> _muelli_ watch the language - there is NO need for it
[02:54] <ravi_master> ikonia_, thanks for chasing him away :(
[02:54] <gepatino> _muelli_: if you have to save something now, yes, you rather boot in single mode.
[02:54] <ali1234> CapaH: i think it's marked "recovery mode"
[02:54] <ikonia_> ravi_master no problem
[02:55] <ikonia_> ravi_master this is ubuntu support - not "learn to shell script"
[02:55] <ravi_master> ikonia: fair enough
[02:56] <dddfff>   : andybody can type english?
[02:56] <mike1o> hey is it possible to scan from the parallel port?
[02:56] <ikonia_> dddfff we all speak english
[02:56] <ravi_master> swany, hope you got neozen's suggestions, for beginners I suggest pico or nano
[02:56] <dddfff>   : that's great
[02:56] <swany> k
[02:56] <Slart> dddfff: what irc-client are you using?
[02:56] <qiu> hello
[02:56] <morpheus74> This is what I get when using the uname -a command, "Linux emac 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 19:52:28 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[02:56] <morpheus74> "  I am trying to install the right driver for my nVidia video card.  Therefore, I would install the "linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic" package from within Synaptic, right?
[02:56] <neozen> what's with the unicode dddfff?
[02:56] <ravi_master> chatzilla ftw
[02:57] <dddfff>   : yeah
[02:57] <dddfff>   : creak version
[02:57] <ikonia_> morpheus74 yup - but if you follow the guide and get the nvidia-glx package it will do it all for you
[02:57] <krishna> I changed my nameserver in resolv.conf, but the dns don't seem to be resolving through it. Does ubuntu keep some kind of cache that I can clear?
[02:57] <ravi_master> knock it off dd
[02:57] <swany> i managed ok with editor :)
[02:57] <qiu> what are you doing?
[02:57] <ikonia_> krishna what name servers is it using
[02:57] <dddfff>   : to me?
[02:58] <skuld> I'm looking for help setting up my wireless, anyone have a second?
[02:58] <morpheus74> ikonia, What guide are you referring to?  I found a guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, is this the one you are referring to?
[02:58] <ikonia_> dddfff can you please turn off any fonts/scripting/colours in your script client please
[02:58] <ikonia_> !nvidia >morpheus74
[02:58] <dddfff> ok
[02:58] <dddfff> just remote off
[02:58] <ikonia_> morpheus74 that one (see pm)
[02:58] <neozen> thankee dddfff
[02:58] <neozen> much obliged
[02:58] <dddfff> that's ok:)
[02:58] <dddfff> i'm from china
[02:58] <ravi_master> krishna: what did you get your dig command, what you wanted?
[02:59] <swany> ok trying a reboot wish me luck :D
[02:59] <ravi_master> ah, cool, how's the firewall doing up there ddf?
[02:59] <neozen> dddfff: welcome ... what can we do for you?
[02:59] <neozen> skuld: what kind of card?
[02:59] <ravi_master> swany, wish you luck!
[03:00] <skuld> neozen: That's a really good question.
[03:00] <dddfff> lol,just talk
[03:00] <neozen> skuld: ::blinks:: .................
[03:00] <skuld> neozen: I'm on a laptop, and I'm used to Windows were everything is just...setup.
[03:00] <krishna> ravi_master: nope. The dns doesn't even resolve through dig. not on this machine at least
[03:00] <skuld> neozen: So, to be honest, I have NO idea what I'm doing, or where to even start.
[03:00] <ikonia_> krishna put your /etc/resolv.conf in the pastebin please
[03:01] <ravi_master> krishna, ah, ok
[03:01] <neozen> skuld: so.... you don't know what kind of wireless card you have?
[03:01] <krishna> ikonia_: resolv.conf is one line: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:01] <neozen> skuld: did you build or buy?
[03:01] <skuld>  neozen: Bought.
[03:01] <skuld> neozeh: And nope, I really don't have a clue.
[03:01] <ikonia_> krishna can you ping that address or do "nslookup ; server <IP_ADDRESS>"
[03:01] <neozen> skuld: ok..... look it up in the manufacturers documentation for the particular model
[03:02] <morpheus74> ikonia, Thanks.
[03:02] <wols> skuld: you start with lspci -v to find out what chip it has
[03:02] <neozen> or you could do that
[03:02] <mla> Hello, I use feisty and all my checkout in cvs client (crossvc, cervisia) are displayed locally modified. Someone know this problem ?
[03:02] <dddfff> hi friend,i'll coming next time,see you
[03:02] <dddfff> :)
[03:03] <ikonia_> mla  fesity support is in #ubuntu+1
[03:03] <mla> ok
[03:03] <mla> thanks
[03:03] <ravi_master> krishna, having trouble what exactly have you done thus far, what do you want your end result to be?
[03:03] <chori> Anyone good at bluetooth and know how to "redirect" all sound from one computer to another using bluetooth?
[03:04] <skuld> wols: Which part of this am I looking for, exactly?
[03:04] <krishna> ikonia_: the nameserver is definitely live and functional
[03:05] <neozen> skuld: I'd recommend looking it up @ the manufacturers site..... they keep more detailed info (exact model numbers etc) then lspci might tell you
[03:05] <wols> skuld: simply paste it
[03:05] <wols> neozen: haha
[03:05] <neozen> skuld: paste into pastebin!
[03:05] <wols> you're lucky if a manufacturer tells you what chip is in there at all
[03:05] <ravi_master> holy crud, chori, no idea
[03:05] <morpheus74> My video card, according to the label on the front of the machine is a nVidia GeForce 6100 GPU.  What's the GPU mean?
[03:05] <krishna> ravi_master: I'm just trying to get one dns to resolv from this site. It's resolving everywhere else. I thought maybe ubuntu is caching the result of looking it up here.
[03:05] <skuld> wols ; neozen: Okay.
[03:05] <neozen> wols: whaaa? .... lenovo provided exact info
[03:05] <ikonia_> krishna did you check it like I asked you to check it
[03:05] <AaronCampbell> Has anyone had any problems with either lite-on or asus DVD burners?  And does anyone know if I'd be able to use lightscribe (on an asus drive) in (k)ubuntu?
[03:06] <wols> neozen: some do, some don't. most don't
[03:06] <ravi_master> krishna, and did you run the dhclient command?
[03:06] <chori> ravi_master: :/
[03:06] <wols> while lspci shows you exactly what linux sees which means it's what will work. always
[03:06] <skuld> neozen ; wols: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11498/
[03:06] <neozen> wols: even my #@$@#$#@$@$ sotec had good hardware lists
[03:06] <ikonia_> AaronCampbell lightscribe is supported, the software to generate the light scribe images for burining in a "burn" format is only available from 2 closed source packages not in ubuntu
[03:06] <krishna> ikonia_: I've been pinging for a while now :) I can dig and do an nslookup on it
[03:06] <mEck0> I wonder if Exaile or another music player can stream music with a Apple Express? A friend is trying Ubuntu and want a musicplayer which can do that.
[03:06] <chori> ravi_master: My idea is to "fake" a bluetooth speaker but I cant find any information about it
[03:06] <neozen> wols: and that was the worst laptop ever
[03:06] <ravi_master> krishna, I mean the script, not the command
[03:06] <wols> skuld: BCM43xx
[03:07] <ravi_master> chori, you have bluetooth adapter running ubuntu?
[03:07] <ikonia_> krishna so when you type "nslookup" on its own, it uses that server
[03:07] <krishna> ravi_master: On bootup my nameserver was initially set with dhclient, yes
[03:07] <ravi_master> chori, there may be a way through audio2net
[03:07] <neozen> oh boy... he's got an ati ::grins::
[03:07] <chori> ravi_master: well, it's pluged in
[03:07] <neozen> this should be fun
[03:07] <chori> ravi_master: ok
[03:07] <ravi_master> chori, look into audio-over-net
[03:07] <AaronCampbell> ikonia_: so it'll work, but I need a closed-source 3rd party app?
[03:07] <neozen> skuld: you're in for an education
[03:07] <skuld> neozen: *She :D
[03:07] <skuld> Rock.
[03:07] <ikonia_> AaronCampbell yup
[03:08] <AaronCampbell> Cool, I'm ok with that
[03:08] <chori> ravi_master: will d :) thanks
[03:08] <krishna> ikonia_: yeah.
[03:08] <neozen> skuld: please excuse my sexist a55 I apologize
[03:08] <ravi_master> swany, any good results?
[03:09] <neozen> oh crud
[03:09] <skuld> neozen: Not a problem.  I was only kidding.  You know, I don't expect you to be able to tell.  Unless you can see me...and that's a little creepy.  ; )
[03:09] <ravi_master> neozen, I've got an ati 9200 and haven't been able to properly configure it for a couple of years!
[03:09] <neozen> line 97..... its a broadcom
[03:09] <neozen> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[03:09] <skuld> o_o
[03:09] <skuld> neozen: Forgive my idiocy, but I have no idea what that means.
[03:09] <ravi_master> neozen, yeah, but don't take that as an example skuld, hope yours works
[03:10] <skuld> ;_;
[03:10] <skuld> You guys are making me worry.
[03:10] <neozen> skuld: your card is notorius for being a severe pain in the arse
[03:10] <neozen> skuld: you'll be fine
[03:10] <javaJake> skuld, ouch!
[03:10] <ravi_master> skuld, ati is a bigger pain that broadcom
[03:10] <ravi_master> skuld, you should be ok though.
[03:11] <skuld> Alright.
[03:11] <neozen> ravi_master: not for that model of card
[03:11] <skuld> I'm alright.
[03:11] <wols> skuld: broadcom folks as goatfuckers not releasing specs at all. which means bcm43xx driver had to be reverse engineeered
[03:11] <billy> goodness
[03:11] <wols> and you need a firmware by broadcom to make the thing usable under linux
[03:11] <javaJake> skuld, I have a Linksys Broadcom card. It works pretty well
[03:11] <ravi_master> ok, lemme take a look at your lspci...
[03:11] <javaJake> skuld, there is one catch - it can sometimes freeze your computer up.
[03:11] <skuld> wols: Whatever that says is sounds like I'm gonna get kicked in the rear.
[03:11] <wols> ravi_master: ati driver should work
[03:11] <mike1o> !scan
[03:11] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[03:12] <neozen> skuld oh... we won't kick you.....
[03:12] <wols> skuld: nah. just that it's harder to get it all worrking than it should be. but you can get it working, it's doable
[03:12] <bullgard4> I have commanded detlef@MD97600:~/.irssi/scripts$ chmod u+rwx ~/.irssi/scripts/atm.exe. Now 'detlef@MD97600:~/.irssi/scripts$ ~/.irssi/scripts/atm.exe' obtains "syntax error. Last token seen: /; Garbled time." I do not understand what Ubuntu considers a 'last token seen' and 'garbled time'.
[03:12] <mr_grump5> billy:got it fixed!!turned out to be a missing file
[03:12] <ravi_master> wols: believe me, I've tried those, don't like the performance. If you mean the proprietary, dvi is an issue there.
[03:12] <javaJake> skuld, The freeze is strange - your mouse works, but you can't open any programs. The keyboard dies, and the kernel continually outputs a particular message about timing out.
[03:12] <maniac> BULKI NERABOTAJUT NA LINUX
[03:12] <ravi_master> ati has to step their game up
[03:12] <skuld> neozen ; wols ; javaJake: Thanks for anything in advance.
[03:12] <wols> ravi_master: no ati. it _should_ work
[03:13] <`nick> Hi Everyone, Im thinking of using ubuntu as my primary operating system, the is one thing that I am so used to working correct using windows that I cannot find to work correctly in Linux, (Dual Monitors) When I am at work I use my laptop screen aswell as a 19" TFT Monitor, application windows can move freely between them, after my day at work, I take my laptop home, when it boots up it automaticly detects that there is no external monitor plugged in and using
[03:13] <skuld> javaJake : That's...obnoxious.
[03:13] <ravi_master> wols: heh, sorry for the overlook.
[03:13] <skuld> javaJake : Not you, but that happening.
[03:13] <javaJake> skuld, to sum up what everyone is saying, is it'll take a bit of work to get it up and running, but it'll be fine while it's running with a possible crash every five hours. Just be sure to restart. :D
[03:13] <ravi_master> `nick, and here comes another video card problem... what's your's?
[03:13] <Crazytom> are you guys helping skuld in a private channel?
[03:13] <wols> ravi_master: cards from ~raedon7500 to x850 have open drivers now. 3D ones
[03:14] <neozen> Crazytom: no
[03:14] <`nick> The graphics card im using in my laptop is an ATI Mobility Radeon 7500,
[03:14] <javaJake> `nick, yea, that's getting into the file called /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:14] <neozen> Crazytom: right here seemed to be a good idea
[03:14] <ravi_master> wols: you mean the ati/radeon driver name?
[03:14] <Crazytom> good i wanted to watch and learn
[03:14] <javaJake> `nick, oh, that'll be simple - there's nice instructions online.
[03:14] <wols> ravi_master: ati, in 7.1
[03:14] <Crazytom> i have that same card
[03:14] <neozen> Crazytom: okie
[03:15] <mike1o> I have recently gotten my multi-function laser printer working... but it seems that I am not able to scan
[03:15] <Crazytom> but i'm using a linksys card right now
[03:15] <ravi_master> hahah, we have an ati fest on our hands...
[03:15] <skuld> So, what next?
[03:15] <neozen> ravi_master: you have experience pounding on the 43xx?
[03:15] <mike1o> !scan
[03:15] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[03:15] <ravi_master> those AirForce One's are tough cookies as you said but I think I may have a solution
[03:16] <javaJake> `nick, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[03:16] <neozen> ravi_master: as I usually just run when one is involved
[03:16] <ravi_master> you know, ndiswrapper for those seemed to have ok performance
[03:17] <gripner> hey, how to install java sdk on ubuntu ?
[03:17] <neozen> why they aren't putting the intel pro wireless 3945abg in more lappys I'll never know
[03:17] <Crazytom> and fwcutter
[03:17] <neozen> ravi_master: no experience
[03:17] <swany> my soundcard is still looping :(
[03:17] <swany> cat /proc/asound/modules
[03:17] <swany>  0 snd_emu10k1
[03:17] <swany>  1 snd_mpu401
[03:17] <Crazytom> skuld, what is the card doing?
[03:17] <`nick> I don't have a problem configuring linux to support dual monitors, but I want it to be like windows, I want it to automaticly detects that there is or is not a monitor connected
[03:17] <ravi_master> swany, bah, did you do everything in that post?
[03:17] <neozen> ravi_master: I'll probably buy one one of these days just to pound on it
[03:17] <swany> is what it says now :S
[03:17] <swany> yeah
[03:17] <`nick> I don't want to change the settings everyday when I get home and only have my laptop screen
[03:17] <skuld> Crazytom: I'm going to assume...not a lot?
[03:18] <ravi_master> swany, ok, hold on
[03:18] <doseryder> Hi, I have made several attempts to change the permission on /media/sda1 (which is a ntfs-3g mount) but it failed to respond to the changes made (As a root)
[03:18] <ravi_master> ok, vereyone with a bcm43xx raise your hand
[03:18] <ravi_master> everyone*
[03:18] <neozen> *hole
[03:18] <javaJake> gripner, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk for Java 5.0, or sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk for Java 6 (which has yet to be fully released - I believe they released the JDK early to prepare devs).
[03:19] <Crazytom> skuld, is your card eth1 eth2 wlan0?  what is its designation
[03:19] <javaJake> Got to run
[03:19] <doseryder> Apparently, by default its permission set is 777 but i wanted to chmod it to 755
[03:19] <javaJake> TTYL everyone
[03:19] <doseryder>  can someone please help me out
[03:19] <javaJake> ravi_master, I have one
[03:19] <javaJake> :P
[03:19] <neozen> javaJake: beautiful ..... you get it working?
[03:19] <ravi_master> yay, lemme guess, ndiswrapper javaJake?
[03:19] <skuld> Crazytom: eth1
[03:19] <javaJake> neomi, ravi_master, nope, bcm43xx driver. :)
[03:19] <linuxspecial> ciao
[03:19] <ravi_master> ah, fwcutter?
[03:19] <javaJake> Yes
[03:20] <neozen> javaJake: O.O
[03:20] <ravi_master> hmm, ok
[03:20] <javaJake> Yep
[03:20] <Crazytom> skuld, do iwlist eth1 list
[03:20] <neozen> javaJake: mind talking him through it
[03:20] <ravi_master> sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter should be the first thing he has to do then
[03:20] <javaJake> neozen, yes, actually. :(
[03:20] <skuld> Crazytom: Unknown Command
[03:20] <neozen> javaJake: that bad huh?
[03:20] <ravi_master> javaJake, see if this guide is ok for him to follow: http://debian.nfo.sk/Wiki/WifiBcm4318
[03:20] <javaJake> neozen, I have to go... let me get a link to the HOWTO I followed though...
[03:20] <Crazytom> skuld, ok how about iwconfig eth1
[03:20] <neozen> javaJake: awesome
[03:21] <skuld> Crazytom: What are you looking for in here?
[03:21] <neozen> javaJake: I've got a friend who spends his days cursing that same card
[03:21] <javaJake> ravi_master, no, that will not work
[03:21] <ravi_master> javaJake: ok, go ahead and post your suggested howto
[03:21] <Crazytom> skuld, i'm sorry try iwlist eth1 scan
[03:21] <lelik> hi, alll..  I have a question: I accidently deleted timezone info for my region: Asia/Seoul. We packet should I reinstall to restore this file?
[03:22] <skuld> Crazytom: No results
[03:22] <wols> Crazytom: he has no wireless tools installed and not even any driver loaded. now how could your commandline work in any sensible way?
[03:22] <ravi_master> I really tend to lean towards ndiswrapper than fwcutter though, I really don't like what they put out.
[03:22] <Crazytom> skuld, i'm just trying to find out where your card i
[03:22] <skuld> Crazytom: I'm just doing whatcha tell me.  ;)
[03:22] <neozen> Crazytom: we know what card it is
[03:22] <wols> skuld: you need to install/load the bcm43xx drivers, extract the firmware from the windows driver and put it into /lib/firmware
[03:22] <neozen> Crazytom: its a broadcom 43xx series
[03:22] <ravi_master> skuld, you haven't even properly gone through and installed the card yet, you won't be able to find it under wlan or eth interfaces yet. :/
[03:22] <skuld> wols : o_o
[03:23] <wols> then install wireless-tools, and _then_ you can follow what Crazytom said
[03:23] <Crazytom> i know that, i'm just trying to find out what stage the card is at
[03:23] <ravi_master> ok, screw everything use this guide and do it through ndiswrapper skuld: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285809
[03:23] <wols> Crazytom: don't done grope in the dark but read the log what has gone before
[03:23] <neozen> skuld: don't worry..... its not as bad as it seems
[03:23] <wols> ndiswrappre IS bad
[03:23] <neozen> skuld: there's guides for it
[03:23] <Crazytom> I wanted to do that to see if he even has wireless tools installed
[03:23] <wols> at least if ther is anyother way
[03:24] <ravi_master> wols: oh no it isn't, has solved many a broadcom issue in my past
[03:24] <wols> Crazytom: that might be so but "command not found" should have clued you in then
[03:24] <Crazytom> i've been watching since he got here and noone was helping him
[03:24] <wols> ravi_master: yes, and back then there was no native driver. now there is
[03:24] <skuld> neozen ; wols ; javaJake ; ravi_master : *reading*  Yell for me if you need, please.
[03:24] <g0su> como se puede buscar que paquete tiene la librera X? un equery b libreria de gentoo vamos
[03:24] <maxx18> hi guys... quick question: is there any way to make all my windows go back to their default position and size?
[03:24] <tabbot> hello guys
[03:25] <ravi_master> wols: still haven't heard good things about stability on those native ones yet, if you have, please go ahead and share your story.
[03:25] <neozen> skuld: will do .......sorry you'll have such a rough time of it....
[03:25] <wols> ravi_master: I don't have them. but ndsiwrapper is always only a last resort
[03:25] <Crazytom> wols, i told him the wrong thing to type  i said iwlist eth1 list and it should have been iwlist eth1 scan i made a mistake and was correcting it.  I'm not a superguru.  but i did spend a considerable amount of time trying to get my wireless working and wanted to help while you guys were chatting about other stuff
[03:25] <_Rappy_> does a bootup script need sudo permissions?
[03:25] <gumpish> =/ Why does Evolution not know about DST changes?
[03:25] <neozen> wols: I know..... ndis is infamous
[03:26] <ravi_master> ravi_master, ok, we'll have skuld install fwcutter then :-/
[03:26] <javaJake> Attention all those needing help on bcm43xx cards or those who can help please go to #bcm43xx-ubuntu-help (private channel)
[03:26] <wols> Crazytom: it doesn't matter. iwlist wasn't wrong
[03:26] <ravi_master> :sigh:
[03:26] <chainsawcarver> is there antivirus programs for ubuntu?
[03:26] <skuld> ravi_master : Download and extract windows drivers to a folder of your choice (drivers can be found here: ftp://ftp.support.acer-euro.com/note...ver/80211g.zip)
[03:26] <wols> chainsawcarver: clamav
[03:26] <skuld> ravi_master: I'm stuck there.
[03:26] <neozen> NICE
[03:26] <wols> chainsawcarver: the quiestion is, what do you want it for?
[03:26] <ravi_master> skuld: hold on, we'll have you try native drivers first
[03:26] <skuld> ravi_master : Broken link?
[03:26] <wols> not enough viruses for linux to make it worthwhile
[03:26] <tabbot> anyone know a repo for banshee 0.12 (i am running edgy)
[03:26] <skuld> Okay.
[03:26] <chainsawcarver> well im new to linux so im not sure if i need antivirus or not
[03:26] <ravi_master> undo the first part of that guide skuld
[03:27] <chainsawcarver> do i need antivirus?
[03:27] <swany> its going through the startup sound but looping each part of it constantly :(
[03:27] <stefg> no
[03:27] <wols> chainsawcarver: you don't. you don't need a firewall either
[03:27] <ravi_master> take away blacklist like from modprobe.d/blacklist
[03:27] <clive> hi i had a kernel panic so i had to boot from mepis live disc, can i still access the files i have on my computer?
[03:27] <javaJake> neozen, ravi_master, #bcm43xx-ubuntu-help
[03:27] <skuld> ravi_master : You're going to have to give me a moment.  I tend to be technologically challenged.  : /
[03:29] <javaJake> skuld, #bcm43xx-ubuntu-help
[03:29] <ravi_master> skuld: here we go, I'll wal you through it:
[03:29] <Pici> !blacklist
[03:29] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u
[03:29] <chainsawcarver> well my router is probably a good enuff firewall but i was just checking to see if i needed antivirus
[03:29] <neozen> ravi_master: head over to the private chat
[03:29] <chainsawcarver> thats cool if i dont tho :D
[03:29] <ravi_master> neozen ok
[03:29] <javaJake> skuld, ravi_master, let's take this off the main channel and get somewhere less cluttered.
[03:29] <dyrne> clive: should yes. you just need to mount the partition
[03:29] <Ayabara_> I did a dist-upgrade to feisty that failed bigtime. now I'n reinstalling edgy. is it straight-forward to reuse the same home folder and account (on separate partition)?
[03:29] <neozen> somewhere where it can be logged easily
[03:29] <javaJake> :)
[03:29] <ali1234> Ayabara_: i've had the same homedir since breezy without problems
[03:29] <clive> thx, so if i do for example mount /hda2 . that should work?
[03:29] <gripner> so, anyone who can tell me how to install JAVA development kit on ubuntu ?
[03:29] <wols> !java
[03:29] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:29] <gripner> not only the JRE
[03:29] <javaJake> skuld, if you want, just type "/join #bcm43xx-ubuntu-help" and push ENTER
[03:29] <bulmer> gripner: download the Sun java jdk
[03:29] <Ayabara_> ali1234: when I install I just tell it that /home is where it is, and things work automagically?
[03:29] <ali1234> Ayabara_: yes
[03:30] <itstaff> hi all what command should I use to switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu
[03:30] <bulmer> gripner: and then do the  package update
[03:30] <gripner> bulmer: is the SDK same as the jdk nowdays?
[03:30] <dyrne> clive: yah like: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
[03:30] <Ayabara_> ali1234: great. thanks
[03:30] <wols> Ayabara_: no. you need the account recreated too
[03:30] <bulmer> gripner: yes jdk is now sdk
[03:30] <Ayabara_> wols, by just using the same name?
[03:30] <neozen> hey skul.... head to #bcm43xx-ubuntu-help
[03:30] <tabbot> ali1234: oru u can specify it in your /etc/fstab
[03:30] <wols> Ayabara_: yes
[03:30] <mike1o> trouble scanning from my multi-function printer
[03:30] <alitrix> how to cleanup the MBR in linux?
[03:30] <Crazytom> javaJake, i really would like to watch
[03:30] <alitrix> in dos it would be: fdisk /mbr
[03:30] <wols> alitrix: define "clean up"
[03:30] <stefg> !kubuntu | itstaff
[03:30] <ubotu> itstaff: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[03:30] <javaJake> Crazytom, join the channel #bcm43xx-ubuntu-help
[03:31] <alitrix> wols: lets say, the same as dos does with fdisk :)
[03:35] <wols> alitrix: reinstall your bootloader
[03:35] <Wanderer> Is there a 'feisty' specific channel?
[03:35] <ali1234> Ayabara_: yeah just adduser <your username> then press enter a few times if the homedir is in the default /home/<username>
[03:35] <alitrix> no, i dont want the bootloader :)
[03:35] <Wanderer> I have a font problem that appears to be specific to my feisty box
[03:35] <stefg> !feisty
[03:35] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[03:35] <alitrix> that's why I want to "clean up" =)
[03:35] <bulmer> alitrix: clean up as in any bytes on those first 512 byte position?
[03:35] <Wanderer> thanks
[03:35] <wols> alitrix: that's what fdisk/mbr does howerver
[03:35] <swany> can anyone help me with my soundcard problem? the sblive platinum (live drive II) is constantly looping any sound from it
[03:35] <alitrix> bulmer: so , dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[03:35] <alitrix> should work fine?
[03:35] <swany> and its slowing down the desktop to a crawl
[03:35] <gary_> Does anyone know w hat this means when trying "./configure": checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:35] <bulmer> alitrix:  yes and it would not be bootable then
[03:35] <skuld> Did I lose you guys?
[03:35] <wols> alitrix: it will kill ALL your partitions. the disk will appear blank
[03:35] <alitrix> oh :s
[03:35] <neozen> skuld: we're all in another channel
[03:35] <alitrix> oke, so how to rebuild the MBR to make it go to windows (or the first bootable partition?)
[03:35] <neozen> skuld: waiting for you
[03:35] <nugenoa> What do you type in console to find your gnome version?
[03:35] <Pici> !buildessential | gary_
[03:35] <javaJake> skuld, you there? :)
[03:35] <Rooy> anyone know how to detect keysym of a key? ie my right winkey isn't Super
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <neozen> skuld: #bcm43xx-ubuntu-help (private channel)
[03:35] <ravi_master> skuld
[03:35] <reduzuin> QUESTION: I upgraded to Ubuntu 6.10, and I can't ctrl-alt+ and ctrl-alt- to change screen res (zoom)!! Also I canlt ctrl-alt-f1/2/3/4 to go to a textmode console! How do I fix this? (hint this is a builtin command of xfree86/xorg and has been there in any linux distro for the past 15 years)
[03:35] <wols> alitrix: run windows/dos and do fdisk/mbr or fixmbr
[03:35] <javaJake> !buildessentials
[03:35] <Pici> gary_: Install the build-essential package
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessentials - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <javaJake> !build-essentials
[03:35] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:35] <javaJake> Aha
[03:35] <wols> !build-essential
[03:35] <alitrix> I cant get into windows anymore, cause GRUB trys to run my linux partition
[03:35] <alitrix> but I removed the linux partition
[03:35] <alitrix> so grub is looking to a "empty" partition
[03:35] <wols> alitrix: boot from your windows CD
[03:35] <itstaff> please I am sure you know what command to use to switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu, just spend 5 secs to write it
[03:35] <stefg> itstaff: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <stefg> but this won't remove gnome
[03:35] <gripner> balmer: im DLing java EE 5 with jdk, its a bin file, gues it needs to be converted to a deb file ?
[03:35] <gripner> !java
[03:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:35] <ali1234> alitrix: at the grub prompt, rootnoverify (hd0,0)<enter> chainloader +1<enter> boot<enter>
[03:35] <swany> can anyone help me with my soundcard problem? the sblive platinum (live drive II) is constantly looping any sound from it
[03:37] <alitrix> ali1234: well, I can't get the boot menu , so I cant get in the grub prompt anymore
[03:37] <lelik> hi, alll..  I have a question: I accidently deleted timezone info for my region: Asia/Seoul (/usr/share/timezone/Asia/Seoul). What packet should I reinstall to restore this file?
[03:37] <niru> hello all
[03:37] <Rooy> lelik: try tzinfo
[03:37] <Rooy> lelik: sorry, tzdata
[03:40] <stefg> !info tzdata
[03:40] <ubotu> tzdata: Time Zone and Daylight Saving Time Data. In component main, is required. Version 2007b-0ubuntu0.6.10 (edgy), package size 306 kB, installed size 5728 kB
[03:40] <ali1234> alitrix: you installed grub into the active partition instead of mbr? okay, just boot dos/knoppix and set the active partition to windows drive
[03:40] <tabbot> +e tabbot
[03:40] <lelik> Rooy: no such package... I tried... I use 6.06 :-(
[03:40] <swany> can anyone help me with my soundcard problem? the sblive platinum (live drive II) is constantly looping any sound from it
[03:40] <amayera> I wanted to ask if it is planned for usplash to support cryptsetup so one can enter his dmcrypt passphrase while still seeing the nice uslpash screen and not the console?
[03:40] <Rooy> lelik: libc6 in dapper stores tzinfo
[03:40] <Rooy> lelik: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ helpful for searching
[03:40] <Toma-> how do you change the 404 page in thttpd?
[03:40] <alitrix> ali1234: no, I installed grub on /dev/hda, and /boot/grub/* was on /dev/hdaxx
[03:40] <alitrix> I removed formatted /dev/hdaxx, everytime I reboot, grub try's to axx it
[03:40] <ali1234> swany: sudo killall esdalitrix: then you should still be able to access the grub prompt
[03:40] <ali1234> oops :/
[03:40] <alitrix> cause the menu.lst is there, but that isn't possible, cause that partition is empty now
[03:41] <ali1234> alitrix: you dont need that menu.lst to boot from grub. you can just manually type the commands
[03:41] <alitrix> hm, k
[03:41] <alitrix> let me try again then
[03:41] <swany> esdalitrix: no process killed
[03:45] <ali1234> alitrix: i did exactly the same thing accidentally about 5 days ago :)
[03:45] <lelik> Rooy: THank.. I'll try to find it there... That's exactly what I need..
[03:45] <ali1234> swany: i was trying to say killall esd
[03:45] <ali1234> swany: but i dont think that will be a permanent solution
[03:45] <swany> its still looping
[03:45] <ali1234> swany: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[03:45] <davin> Hi. I installed Edgy py pressing F6 'Other Options' because my mouse/keyboard wouldnt work normally. Now I installed it but they dont work because these 'other options' arent added on startup. I cannot see see the boot options fully, help?
[03:45] <swany> command not found
[03:45] <lugod> davin: what kind of mouse and keyboard do you have? usb?
[03:45] <alitrix> ali1234: I can't get in the prompt
[03:45] <alitrix> GRUB Loading stage1.5
[03:45] <alitrix> GRUB loading, please wait....
[03:45] <alitrix> Error 22
[03:45] <alitrix> then the cursor stays there, I tryed 'e' and 'b'
[03:45] <davin> lugod a wireless CANYON Multimedia set.My wired PS/2 Compaq keyboard works, but I tried the Compaq wireless mouse and it also only works with 'Other Options'
[03:45] <alitrix> but no command prompt :s
[03:45] <ali1234> alitrix: then you have hosed it. just get a bootdisk of any kind
[03:45] <ali1234> cd or floppy. anything will do
[03:45] <blackbart> Where can I find what is different between the desktop and server versions of Ubuntu?
[03:45] <davin> lugod It would work if I knew what the boot options were of the 'F6 Other Options'-thing on the Live CD and added them to GRUB
[03:45] <Rooy> blackbart: the server edition installs only barebone, so people can add only what they want to use
[03:45] <dyrne> blackbart: kernel is different other than that i think its just a stripped desktop install
[03:45] <davin> lugod hard to explain
[03:46] <Pici> blackbart: see the "Whats the difference" part of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/
[03:46] <ali1234> alitrix: in a push you could even pull the HD and put it in another machine to reset the active partition and maybe mbr
[03:46] <lugod> davin: ok. you should be able to look at the grub menu.lst on the installer CD-ROM and get the options you need from there
[03:46] <swany> sudo: /etc/init.d/alsa: command not found
[03:46] <davin> lugod when the livecd starts up you can press F1-F6 for several options (language, keyset, resolution etc.) when you press F6 some boot options are added, but I can only see 4 of them because it is too long
[03:46] <alitrix> ali1234: I have a kubuntu dvd here, is there a way to the windows hd from it?
[03:46] <davin> lugod brilliant idea
[03:46] <alitrix> there is a option 'Boot from first hard disk', but that puts me back in the grub situation
[03:47] <davin> lugod I have to mount the CD though, and im on it...
[03:47] <ali1234> alitrix: look for the option that gives you a basic grub prompt
[03:47] <bulmer> alitrix: you go ahead until it is fully boot'ed and then manually mount the partitions you like access to
[03:47] <CharlieC`> is anyone else having issue with synaptic and archive.ubuntu.com?
[03:47] <cbx33> hi all
[03:47] <davin> lugod should I boot into text mode from my hard disk install and gedit the CD?
[03:47] <lugod> davin: cool
[03:47] <cbx33> no one managed to grab linuxMCE
[03:47] <roliex> alguien habala espaol
[03:47] <alitrix> bulmer: and then?
[03:47] <Pici> !se | roliex
[03:47] <ubotu> roliex: Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[03:47] <lugod> davin: should just be able to mount it and look inside without any reboot
[03:47] <Pici> !es | roliex
[03:47] <cbx33> before digg killed the bandwidth
[03:47] <ubotu> roliex: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:47] <davin> lugod im not sure if I can mount the CD if I am using it right now
[03:48] <bulmer> alitrix: you follow me right?  boot all the way and mount?
[03:48] <alitrix> boot kubuntu u mean?
[03:48] <lugod> davin: youre booted from livecd right now?
[03:48] <CharlieC`> where can I find a "typical" sources.list?
[03:48] <davin> lugod yes
[03:48] <CharlieC`> (for edgy)
[03:48] <davin> lugod so im not sure if I can mount it
[03:48] <lugod> davin: hmm
[03:48] <roliex> ok
[03:48] <davin> lugod I can boot into text mode though
[03:48] <bulmer> alitrix: yes boot all the way, then you can mount any file system it can recognize via  mount command
[03:48] <LadyNikon> hmm i noticed a guy talking about how edgy booted rather slowly on his laptop
[03:48] <davin> lugod from my hard disk
[03:48] <LadyNikon> i am starting to see similar things
[03:48] <cbx33> i hate what digg can do to a site....
[03:48] <stomose> hgbg
[03:48] <davin> brb then
[03:48] <LadyNikon> didnt have this problem with 6.06
[03:48] <grayman> ray
[03:49] <swany> i only use my pc for movies and tunes now which is why i was going to use ubuntu but noone seems to know why the sound isn't working properly :(
[03:49] <lugod> davin: do you have about 700 Mb free on HD that you can use temporarily?
[03:49] <cbx33> if anyone has linuxmce iso, that'd be awesome
[03:49] <CharlieC`> swany: what sound card?
[03:49] <alitrix> bulmer: yes, but what can I do with it then? cause I want to boot the windows partition (or "clean up" the MBR to make it boot to the first-bootable partition)
[03:49] <swany> soundblaster live platinum (with live drive II)
[03:49] <CapaH> Wow CNN is heartless! "Global Pandemic Flu which may kill 2.2 million *Could cause a recession!*"
[03:49] <CharlieC`> soundblaster support is always bad IMO
[03:49] <hylje> people dont care about people dying en masse
[03:49] <lugod> davin: or copy of ISO image of live cd on HD?
[03:50] <gioacchino> hello
[03:50] <strugart> hi
[03:50] <Yggdrasil> are the feisty repos generaly slower
[03:50] <gioacchino> anyone know how to add system service
[03:50] <broady> hello
[03:50] <soundray> gioacchino: what service do you want to add?
[03:50] <bulmer> alitrix: it was not clear as to what your goal was to me at first..so you yeah you can boot all the way in linux and then fix the mbr ..i dont know the steps off hand, you may need to google for it
[03:50] <lugod> gioacchino: do mean like a server (web server, file server, etc)?
[03:50] <swany> so i should just give up and go and reinstall windows then?
[03:51] <roliex> dios
[03:51] <roliex> alguien que hable espaol
[03:51] <Toma-> swany: whats happening or not happening with your sound?
[03:51] <michaelpo> what is a good lightweight photo editor like ms photo editor?
[03:51] <ravi_master> neozen, you there?
[03:51] <gepatino> roliex: #ubuntu-es
[03:51] <bulmer> no hablamos espanoles
[03:51] <ravi_master> need that channel again, got side-tracked
[03:51] <lugod> davin: ok, booting into text mode from HD sounds easiest.
[03:51] <alitrix> bulmer: well, I want to get back to my windows partition, by putty the MBR default (like fdisk /mbr does in DOS), but I dont have axx to dos or windows
[03:52] <alitrix> and on internet they say I have to use the 'dd' command, to cleanup the MBR
[03:52] <CharlieC`> no one else having issues with archive.ubunut-com in their sources.list? Strange.,
[03:52] <soundray> swany: if that's what you want to do, then yes.   Can anyone help with this idea:  If I could find a tool that would match my MP3 tags with last.fm, and move all the ones that didn't have a match into like, another folder, that would cut my work in half.
[03:53] <lugod> gioacchino: is the bridge an ethernet bridge?
[03:53] <bulmer> alitrix yes dd to put byrtes into those 1st 512 positions, what gets written there must be the correct bytes for your system to reboot in the particular OS, putting random bytes in there will not make it boot
[03:53] <gioacchino> lugod:  but the problem isn't midi the problem is add command at startup..
[03:53] <swany> it gets through them but takes like a minute for a 3 sec track
 gioacchino: is the bridge an ethernet bridge? yes
[03:53] <soundray> swany: have you tried different players?
[03:53] <Alam_Ubuntu> Crescendo__, MusicBrainz Picard
[03:54] <gepatino> Crescendo__: not shure, but maybe easytag could help
[03:54] <bulmer> alitrix: i dont remember exact steps, you have to google for tutorials on recovering MBR
[03:54] <swany> does it with everything including the startup sound
[03:54] <Crescendo__> gepatino, easytag is too complicated, tag tool works better too - it's what I've been using
[03:54] <lugod> gioacchino: if you need a program started when the machine boots, you need a script added to /etc/init.d/
[03:54] <soundray> swany: which players have you tried?
[03:54] <alitrix> been looking for some, but they mention fdisk /mbr (dos) or the dd thing
[03:54] <Crescendo__> Alam_Ubuntu, is that in the repos, or do you have a link?
[03:54] <swany> movie player xmms
[03:54] <ubuntugeek> !automatix
[03:54] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:55] <lugod> gioacchino: there are also startup programs for GNOME
[03:55] <bulmer> alitrix: yeah use the dd thing
[03:55] <dyrne> !grub > alitrix
[03:55] <dimebar> Crescendo__: or Ex Falso (which gets installed with Quod Libet I think)
[03:55] <ubuntugeek> !WorksForMe
[03:55] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:55] <soundray> swany: which backend did you configure in xmms?
[03:55] <Alam_Ubuntu> Crescendo__, http://musicbrainz.org/doc/PicardLinuxInstall#head-5f60c040c32c67c304b335181b88678ad34149c2
[03:55] <alitrix> bulmer: k, but how can I go back to the windows partition after it?
[03:55] <swany> backend?
[03:55] <lugod> gioacchino: GNOME startup programs are started when you log in; they are configured under session preferences
[03:55] <Crescendo__> dimebar, I've not had much luck with ex falso either - does it support last.fm matching?
[03:55] <evoxy> does ubuntu come with xgl by default?
[03:55] <Crescendo__> Alam_Ubuntu, thanks
[03:55] <Rooy> evoxy: no, and join #ubuntu-effects for more info
[03:56] <soundray> swany: in the options, you can set ALSA, OSS, ESD and other sound output backends. Try them one by one.
[03:56] <CharlieC`> swany: if it happens with the startup sound then its not the player config I think.
[03:56] <bulmer> alitrix: getting back to the windows partition and booting to a windows are two different things, one you can mount windows partition in linux to be read, the other you really need to have the mbr+boot loader fixed
[03:56] <gioacchino> I use kubuntu
[03:56] <swany> yeah its doing it with the startup sound too
[03:56] <gioacchino> lugod:  I use kubuntu
[03:56] <xfab> hi there
[03:56] <bulmer> alitrix: its the second part..i cant recall exact specific steps
[03:57] <soundray> CharlieC`: it would still be useful to see if it happens with different backends (swany)
[03:57] <lugod> gioacchino: KDE has an equivalent, in the KDE control center
[03:57] <alitrix> k, well I'm going to try look again for some howto's on internet
[03:57] <CharlieC`> swany: it took me months to get my soudn working. fortunately it wasnt a big issue. good luck. do stick with  it and delve in google.
[03:57] <CharlieC`> swany, play with the alsa mixer.
[03:57] <evoxy> how do i change my resolution?
[03:57] <CharlieC`> alsa is the way forward in ubunut.
[03:57] <xfab> I compiled an new kernel an ticked or unticked about 20 features to optimize the kernel, but now there kernel hangs at booting
[03:58] <gioacchino> lugod:  I'm in the kde control center in the session manager how to add command to exexcute on startup ?
[03:58] <soundray> CharlieC`: what swany describes is not a mixer problem.
[03:58] <dimebar> Crescendo__: ah, don't think so.  easytag may be more advanced for stuff like that but I'm not an expert
[03:58] <xfab> could somebody take a look at the optimizations, perhaps that you see the troubling feature?
[03:58] <Toma-> swany: try playing a sound with aplay in the terminal?
[03:58] <evoxy> what's the difference between aiglx and xgl?
[03:58] <lugod> gioacchino: unfortunately i don't have KDE here :(
[03:58] <Yggdrasil> are the feisty repos generaly slower
[03:59] <soundray> Yggdrasil: no, they are the same servers
[03:59] <xfab> evoxy: aiglx is built in in Edgy and XGL is a seperated package of software
[03:59] <CharlieC`> soundray: it was for me.
[03:59] <Toma-> xfab: you wont notice any difference in optimizing the kernel over the standard ubuntu one.
[03:59] <Yggdrasil> hmmm its dragggin....
[03:59] <evoxy> xfab:which is better?
[03:59] <lugod> I have a problem right now: fonts are really ugly in Tk applications. I'm getting scaled fixed-size fonts instead of scalable fonts beong used by default for menus, dialog boxes, etc. Any ideas? The problem does not occur on Debian Sarge
[03:59] <soundray> CharlieC`: you had looping sounds because of a mixer setting?
[03:59] <swany> how do i use aplay?
[04:00] <xfab> Toma-: how do you mean? I followed the instructions in the ubuntuusers-forum to optmize the kernel, they say that it would get more responsiv
[04:00] <Toma-> lugod: have you compiled your TK app with 8.5?
[04:00] <soundray> swany: please follow my suggestion before you tackle Toma-'s
[04:00] <swany> k
[04:00] <xfab> evoxy: If AIGLX is supported by your graficcard, use it
[04:00] <Crazytom> how can i get my computer to check for a new wireless card?  it was turned off when i booted up
[04:00] <Toma-> xfab: like 0.02 seconds faster :D
[04:00] <swany> anyprogram that deals with sound seems to lock up for a bit though
[04:00] <soundray> swany: unless you don't value my suggestions, in which case I'll help someone else.
[04:00] <jay> AlienWare says /dev/dsp is broken and I have no sound
[04:00] <xfab> evoxy: XGL hasn't got that much performance
[04:00] <jay> how can i fix that?
[04:00] <evoxy> xfab: is there a list for supported ones?
[04:00] <Toma-> soundray: wouldnt aplay show that alsa can play a sound easier?
[04:00] <bulmer> Crazytom: you must turn it on!
[04:01] <swany> i'm still waiting for xmms to load :S
[04:01] <xfab> evoxy: which graficcard do you possess?
[04:01] <lugod> Toma-: tk8.4 is the only version of tk I have installed
[04:01] <Crazytom> i did now i want ubuntu to find it
[04:01] <Toma-> lugod: yeh, tk8.4 doesnt support xft so it looks butt-ugly.
[04:01] <evoxy> it's not for me
[04:02] <evoxy> and i don't know what my friend had
[04:02] <Toma-> lugod: what tk app are you running? is it amsn?
[04:02] <evoxy> s
[04:02] <alitrix> bulmer & ali1234 , tnx for the help
[04:02] <bulmer> Crazytom: can you prefix your responses with a nick so we dont miss your directed responses
[04:02] <xfab> Toma-: would mind to take a short look over the thread? (even if there's not much difference to it)
[04:02] <Toma-> xfab: sure!
[04:02] <alitrix> I found a windows xp setup CD somewhere hre =)
[04:02] <bulmer> alitrix: no problem, come again
[04:02] <soundray> swany: xmms should not take more than a couple of seconds to load.
[04:02] <alitrix> went to Repair mode, runned fixmbr
[04:02] <xfab> Toma-: cool, it would be the link in this thread: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/81107/
[04:02] <alitrix> and all worked fine :)
[04:02] <swany> i know but as i say anything dealing with sound takes ages to load
[04:02] <Crazytom> bulmer, i did now i want ubuntu to find it
[04:02] <swany> including the mixer application
[04:03] <xfab> evoxy: hmm.. I'll google a moment for it, I think there's a list
[04:03] <lugod> Toma-: grass 6.2 and own scripts wrtieen in ruby-tk
[04:03] <swany> i have a pentium D 2.66 with 1gb ram so it isn't the proccessor speed thats the problem :)
[04:03] <Toma-> swany: run xmms from a terminal and see the debugging code?
[04:03] <soundray> swany: can you open a terminal and run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' to see if any errors are logged?
[04:03] <cubex> hello everyone
[04:03] <bulmer> Crazytom: look for it with dmesg, lspci, lshw  one of these will tell you if its there and recognized
[04:03] <Toma-> lugod: ahh ok. you can find tk/tcl packages of 8.5 and the -dev stuff from google or the forums
[04:03] <neozen> alright..... we're taking him through it
[04:03] <cubex> could you tell me how to turn off scim in gnome?
[04:03] <cubex> i've looked everywhere!
[04:04] <neozen> skuld's going to be just fine
[04:04] <neozen> lol
[04:04] <skuld> *her
[04:04] <Crazytom> bulmer, i know that it's not recognised.  how to i get the computer to look for it without rebooting?
[04:04] <swany> no errors appear i only see dhcp things
[04:04] <bulmer> Crazytom: you used dmesg and tells you none?
[04:04] <Crescendo__> Alam_Ubuntu, I think you're officially my hero for the day. :)
[04:04] <soundray> swany: I think Toma- is keen to take over from me.
[04:04] <Toma-> just suggesting
[04:05] <Toma-> sheesh ill be quiet then
[04:05] <fqh> if someone mind my free chat in here?
[04:05] <soundray> Toma-: no, it's fine
[04:05] <jay> AlienWare says /dev/dsp is broken and I have no sound
[04:05] <Crazytom> bulmer, i used ndiswrapper -l right after i installed the driver and it doesn't say hardware present
[04:05] <cubex> please?
[04:05] <evoxy> is there a way to change the resolution through a gui?
[04:05] <ikonia_> cubex what
[04:05] <soundray> Toma-: there's no point two of us pulling in different directions, though
[04:05] <bulmer> Crazytom: you used dmesg and tells you none?  <-- recognized by your system?
[04:05] <swany> i'd like it if i can get it to work :) not bothered who helps me :)
[04:05] <cubex> i want to disable scim without removing the package
[04:05] <ikonia_> evoxy yes - use system-preferences --> display
[04:06] <lugod> Toma-: any way to fix tk8.4 to at least use a decent font by default? with x resources maybe?
[04:06] <Randall> Hello. my graphical login screen for dapper must be corrupted and every time I login it keeps throwing me back to the login screen, how can I set my ubuntu up to start up always in terminal mode instead of graphical login screen?
[04:06] <swany> something is using 100% of one of my cpus
[04:06] <cubex> ikonia, i couldn't find anything
[04:06] <xfab> evoxy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIGLX#Deployments
[04:06] <ikonia_> Randall change the default init
[04:06] <Toma-> soundray: if xmms is not loading at all, itll be a composite bug and XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VUUALS needs to be passed. also the terminal oputput from xmms can show alsa problems
[04:06] <ikonia_> Randall init level
[04:06] <soundray> swany: what's that? Find out with 'top'
[04:06] <Crazytom> bulmer, dmesg doesn't say anything about it
[04:06] <evoxy> thanks xfab
[04:06] <lugod> Randall: easiest way is to  deinstall gdm and kdm
[04:06] <cubex> ikonia, i know it's scim-lanucher and scim-panel-gtk that are resident, but i couldn't find where they are started
[04:06] <bulmer> cubex: you maybe able to turn off the daemon for it
[04:06] <Randall> right now its defualt 0 in menu.lst
[04:06] <xfab> evoxy: your welcome :)
[04:11] <soundray> swany: stick with Toma-, he's clearly got more of a handle on your problem.
[04:11] <Crazytom> bulmer, please just tell me the command.  is it modprobe or something?
[04:11] <Toma-> :S
[04:11] <swany> xmms is using 100%
[04:11] <bulmer> Crazytom: then whatever you did with ndiswrapper did not load the modules
[04:11] <Rooy> cubex: for me, they are only started when i select a program's input method to be scim
[04:11] <Toma-> swany: did you run xmms from a terminal?
[04:11] <bulmer> Crazytom: what command? for what functionality?
[04:11] <cubex> Rooy, but how do you do that?
[04:11] <Randall> ikonia: right now the default is set for 0 in the menu.lst
[04:11] <swany> nope how do i do that
[04:11] <cubex> Rooy, i don't need scim, and i don't want it to live in my tray forever
[04:11] <swany> and how do i kill the current xmms that is taking 100% :)
[04:11] <Toma-> swany: open a terminal (apps > accessories > terminal) and run xmms
[04:11] <evoxy> ikonia_: how can i increase the resolution?
[04:11] <Rooy> cubex: i rightclick a text field an choose Input method --> SCIM
[04:11] <evoxy> it only has 1024x768 as maximum
[04:11] <Toma-> swany: in the terminal, before runnning xmms, run 'killall xmms'
[04:11] <xfab> swany: you could use audacious instead of xmms (I think they discontinued the development of xmms)
[04:11] <CapaH> Question, In ubuntu how can I do this: I want to type just the name of a file in the shell and have the equivilent of as though I had double clicked the file in the Ubuntu GUI -- that is, I want to have the file run with whatever is associated to run that file... tips anyone?
[04:11] <shadu> evoxy: adjust the xorg.conf
[04:11] <bulmer> cubex: you maybe able to turn off the daemon for it, see if the daemon is running
[04:11] <wols> evoxy: what videochip
[04:11] <Randall> lugod: but wont that get rid of my GDM altogether? I want to still use my GDM
[04:11] <soundray> CapaH: gnome-open filename
[04:11] <Rooy> cubex: when i choose another one like XIM, the tray icon disappear but the scim-* processes still continue
[04:11] <bulmer> CapaH is it an executable?
[04:11] <CapaH> excellent
[04:11] <evoxy> can i do it without hand-editing xorg.com?
[04:11] <xfab> evoxy: in gnome?
[04:11] <Toma-> xfab: all the devs are working on xmms2 actually :D also, this isnt much of a howto for compiling kernels...
[04:11] <lugod> I guess I don't understand --- don't you want to get rid of graphical login?
[04:11] <wols> evoxy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:11] <Randall> lugod: yes
[04:11] <shadu> evoxy: i did it by hand-editing.. its quite easy
[04:11] <ali1234> okay, new nic in machine, and new chassis fan, since the old one had stopped working :/
[04:11] <swany> Message: device: default
[04:11] <swany> Message: alsa mixer timed out
[04:11] <xfab> Toma-: that's weird, I thought to have read that it has been discontinued
[04:11] <swany> its not playing anything in xmms
[04:11] <xfab> Toma-: the problem is that there are many false statements in the internet ^^
[04:11] <shadu> !codecs
[04:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:11] <lugod> Randall: then I don't see the harm in deinstalling gdm
[04:11] <cubex> Rooy, is it turned on by default with ubuntu?
[04:11] <Toma-> woo no mixer device. go go udev
[04:11] <xfab> Toma-: yea, the site just contains optimizations
[04:11] <Rooy> cubex: no, afaik
[04:11] <ali1234> awesome 100kB/s
[04:11] <laptop> What does backported mean?
[04:11] <Toma-> xfab: indeed :D this looks like it was written on the 23rd of june last year....
[04:11] <xfab> Toma-: you've got an idea which feature could be cause of the hang up?
[04:11] <apokryphos> laptop: /msg ubotu backport
[04:11] <xfab> Toma-: :D
[04:11] <cubex> Rooy, ok. i'll try going to init 3 and see if scim's still working
[04:11] <laptop> seriously
[04:11] <Randall> lugod: how do I uninstall it? and does that mean I wont be able to use the GUI for ubunut?
[04:11] <Toma-> xfab: make sure you disable splash and quiet from your grub boot option and you should at least get a kernel panic
[04:11] <cubex> thanks everyone. i appreciate the tips
[04:11] <Rooy> cubex: you want to remove scim's icon or scim ?
[04:11] <soundray> laptop: /msg ubotu backport (seriously)
[04:11] <laptop> it asks if I want proposed or backported updates
[04:11] <evoxy> xfab: how would i enable aiglx?
[04:11] <soundray> laptop: for most purposes, you do want them
[04:12] <swany> nope its not playing anything at all xmms
[04:12] <xfab> Toma-: I did that, the problem is, it just hangs after initializing the USB-Keyboard, no kernel panic
[04:12] <laptop> ubotu doesnt know
[04:12] <lugod> Toma-: i;'ve found tcl8.5 packages here: http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/edgy/3v1n0/ i'm trying those now
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesnt know - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <laptop> is it past builds of an item?
[04:12] <Pici> laptop: Its new builds
[04:12] <soundray> !backports | laptop
[04:12] <ubotu> laptop: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:12] <xfab> evoxy: it's enabled by default
[04:12] <Toma-> lugod: i use that repo too. good stuff.
[04:12] <xfab> evoxy: but just in edgy I think
[04:12] <laptop> oh
[04:12] <laptop> so what is "proposed"?
[04:12] <soundray> laptop: sorry about the missing plural s
[04:12] <evoxy> xfab: is edgy 6.06?
[04:13] <xfab> evoxy: In previous versions AIGLX isn't implemented and doesn't work very well though
[04:13] <xfab> evoxy: 6.10
[04:13] <evoxy> oh k
[04:13] <Toma-> swany: whats the result of "lspci | grep Audio" ?
[04:13] <laptop> Do I want proposed, or does that mean they are in Alpha?
[04:13] <lugod> Randall: deinstalling gdm will just get rid of graphcal login, but you will still be able to start gui with startx
[04:13] <soundray> laptop: "proposed" means that there is a package that has been backported, but no consensus has been reached (yet) on whether the update is essential.
[04:14] <laptop> Proposed mean alpha?
[04:14] <laptop> ahhh interesting
[04:14] <laptop> so proposed is not advisable to a noob, like me
[04:14] <swany> 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 70)
[04:14] <swany> 02:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA High Definition Audio Controller
[04:14] <Rooy> laptop: not noob-or-not, but adventurous-or-not :)
[04:14] <Randall> lugod: is gdm the service for GNOME desktop or just the login... cuz I will uninstall as your instructing but I dont want to lose whats in my home folder under the desktop...
[04:15] <laptop> haha got it
[04:15] <laptop> I am not adventurous, dont know how to be yet
[04:15] <AaronCampbell> I'm going to be setting up a new Kubuntu system.  I'm planning on using a software raid (level 5) for most things (I have 5 500G drives...I'm not sure if I'll use them all, or just 3 of them), but I'm wondering if I should try to install on the raid?  Or just install on a seperate HDD, and mount the raid at /home.  Also, how does (K)Ubuntu do with raid 5?  Can it handle 5 drives?
[04:15] <lugod> Randall: gdm is just login screen
[04:16] <xfab> Toma-: the problem is that the kernel compiled well, when I leave out those "optimizations"
[04:16] <ikonia_> xfab what optimisations are you using with the kerenl
[04:16] <ikonia_> kernel
[04:16] <xfab> Toma-: so it must be one of them that crashs the kernel
[04:16] <lugod> Randall: deinstalling it won't take away GUI or home directory
[04:16] <swany> i tried audacity and it plays the file like a stuck cd too then locks up at the end for a bit
[04:16] <Randall> lugod: Ive never uninstalled anything in Lunux do I do it from terminal? any suggestions
[04:17] <Toma-> xfab: the thing about optimizations are, theyre not really noticable in real world situations, in general.
[04:17] <ikonia_> xfab its not meant to be optimised - its hard to build with optimisations properly
[04:17] <xfab> ikonia_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1174954&postcount=507
[04:17] <lugod> Randall: sudo aptitude remove gdm
[04:17] <soundray> AaronCampbell: IMO it's best to set up a root partition outside the RAID, since it's easier to fix if you should have problems. Yes, five drives should be okay.
[04:17] <ikonia_> xfab read this line Warning: Some of these tips may cause your kernel to not compile properly. Use them at you own risk.
[04:17] <Randall> lugod: thank you for all your help Im gonna take a crack at it right now.
[04:17] <muh-die-1uh> is there a chance that xorg 7.3 will be backported to 7.04?
[04:17] <xfab> Toma-: Perhaps you're right, but it was a good experience to compile a kernel ^^
[04:17] <ikonia_> xfab if you don't know what your doing, leave them well alone
[04:18] <ikonia_> muh-die-1uh backported to 7.04 ??
[04:18] <AaronCampbell> Maybe I'll just install on a seperate 120G drive that I have, and then add the 5 drives as an array
[04:18] <Toma-> xfab: in my experiences, its been nothing but a PITA :D
[04:18] <muh-die-1uh> ikonia_: ubuntu 7.04
[04:18] <xfab> Toma-: what's a PITA? ^^
[04:18] <ikonia_> muh-die-1uh whats currently in 7.04
[04:18] <soundray> xfab: pain in the arm
[04:18] <ikonia_> xfab kernel optimisations - unless you know what your doing
[04:19] <muh-die-1uh> ikonia_: dont know, i _guess_ 7.2
[04:19] <ikonia_> muh-die-1uh how about checking before asking
[04:19] <muh-die-1uh> ikonia_: 7.2
[04:19] <xfab> soundray: I see (I'm Swiss, so I'm not really familier with those expressions)
[04:19] <muh-die-1uh> ikonia_: i just wanted to check
[04:19] <ikonia_> muh-die-1uh then I guess not
[04:19] <muh-die-1uh> damn
[04:19] <soundray> AaronCampbell: I think that's a good idea.
[04:19] <xfab> ikonia_: Perhaps I just leave it out, and try another way to my system up safely
[04:20] <xfab> ikonia_: you're right though
[04:20] <Toma-> soundray: i admit defeat on the sound looping problem. would you like to proceed?
[04:20] <soundray> xfab: that's not an excuse. I'm German ;)
[04:20] <ikonia_> xfab your system up safly ?
[04:20] <xfab> soundray: ah I see ^^
[04:20] <Heroin> i unpacked a tar.. how can i move all the content of a directory into the directory which contains teh unpacked tar? i wannt move ~/site03/* to ~/*
[04:20] <xfab> ikonia_: I meant speed up ^^
[04:20] <secion8> is feisty fawn beta supposed to be available today?
[04:20] <ikonia_> xfab optimisatiosn won't speed up your machine, in some ways it can slow it down
[04:20] <soundray> Toma-: okay. What's the state of affairs now swany?
[04:21] <ikonia_>            mv site03 /
[04:21] <xfab> ikonia_: that's doesn't make sense at first
[04:21] <swany> i'm still with buggy cd scratched sound
[04:21] <ikonia_> xfab trust me it does
[04:21] <Toma-> soundray: btw, its a VIA AC97 chip. standard as butter.
[04:21] <xfab> ikonia_: I do :)
[04:21] <ali1234> how easy it is to build a custom ubuntu install disk with "my favourite packages"?
[04:21] <Heroin> ikonia thanks
[04:21] <ikonia_> ali1234 hard
[04:21] <ali1234> hmm :/
[04:21] <ikonia_> ali1234 if your in a postition to ask that - then you'll find it hard
[04:21] <rambo3> Toma-, odlest and buggiest alsa driver
[04:22] <xfab> Toma and Ikonia, thank you for your help :)
[04:22] <secion8> where can I find the beta for feisty fawn?
[04:22] <Heroin> ikonia wont that move the FOLDER site03? or will it move the contents of site03?
[04:22] <swany> i have a sblive platinum live drive II and onvoard ac97 thing
[04:22] <Rooy> !feisty
[04:22] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[04:22] <ikonia_> Heroin that will move the folder
[04:22] <ali1234> i just find it annoying that i have to download build-essential, subversion, etc every time
[04:22] <swany> but i dont want to use the onboard and the sblive is just not working
[04:22] <soundray> swany: under System-Preferences-Sound-Sounds, can you disable ESD (if you haven't already)
[04:22] <Toma-> xfab: np. if you want to optimise anything, remove un-needed sartup processes and daemons.
[04:22] <ikonia_> ali1234 then take backups
[04:22] <xfab> you saved me a bunch of time ;-)
[04:22] <ikonia_> Toma- now thats good advice
[04:22] <Toma-> *startup
[04:22] <ali1234> ikonia_: i like to install ubuntu on every machine i touch
[04:23] <xfab> ikonia_: there's a programm for that right?
[04:23] <ikonia_> ali1234 errr great, then build a sync server
[04:23] <ikonia_> xfab no - you do that
[04:23] <ali1234> often the machines have no internet access
[04:23] <Toma-> xfab: 'bum' is one...
[04:23] <swany> ok
[04:23] <ali1234> or network of any kind
[04:23] <ikonia_> ali1234 then build a sync server
[04:23] <xfab> Toma-: ok
[04:23] <ikonia_> ali1234 or put the packages on a cd and install from cd
[04:23] <soundray> swany: in the same dialog, make sure the SB Live is selected as the Default sound card
[04:23] <comoddor1> need help!!!
[04:23] <swany> it is
[04:23] <ikonia_> comoddor1 with what
[04:23] <xfab> Toma-: I'll google a bit
[04:23] <soundray> swany: was ESD selected?
[04:24] <comoddor1> anyone knows the command to view my windows hard drive name in linux
[04:24] <swany> it was
[04:24] <Toma-> xfab: yeh. "ubuntu startup process faster bum" :P
[04:24] <comoddor1> /dev/????
[04:24] <ikonia_> comoddor1 man mount and read the wiki
[04:24] <soundray> swany: restart audacity and see if anything has changed pls
[04:24] <swany> just did
[04:24] <comoddor1> nono
[04:24] <swany> no change
[04:24] <dyrne> comoddor1: you mean sudo fdisk -l  ?
[04:24] <comoddor1> i want to view the NAME of the disk
[04:24] <ikonia_> dyrne no he doesn't
[04:24] <dyrne> comoddor1: oh the volume
[04:24] <ikonia_> comoddor1 you should know the device id of the disk
[04:25] <soundray> swany: okay. Have you tried disabling the onboard sound in the BIOS setup?
[04:25] <swany> yes
[04:25] <swany> makes no difference
[04:25] <Rooy> comoddor1: ls -l /dev/disk/by-label
[04:25] <comoddor1> if i see the complete list of all drives  i can remember
[04:25] <comoddor1> how can i list all names of my drives?
[04:25] <laptop> Which chat program is the equivalent to mIRC in windows
[04:25] <ikonia_> comoddor1 ls -la /dev - thats the complete list of devices including drives
[04:25] <laptop> Im using Konversation but it is limited
[04:25] <ikonia_> laptop xchat is closest
[04:25] <Rooy> comoddor1: ls -l /dev/disk/by-label
[04:25] <dyrne> laptop: xchat is prb what you want
[04:25] <Rooy> laptop: try xchat
[04:25] <laptop> it wont let me connect to multiple servers
[04:26] <laptop> okay
[04:26] <ikonia_> laptop I don't think xchat will either
[04:26] <laptop> Thank you
[04:26] <soundray> swany: could you paste the output from 'lsmod' on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:26] <ali1234> laptop: gaim can connect to multiple servers
[04:26] <Rooy> ikonia: xchat does
[04:26] <Toma-> doesnt sblive use emu10k? or something
[04:26] <secion8> rooy, Beta is scheduled for today, You know if it is on schedule?
[04:26] <ikonia_> Rooy does it, I'll have to check that as thats always been a gripe
[04:26] <soundray> Toma-: I want to see if there are competing modules
[04:27] <comoddor1> no solution
[04:27] <comoddor1> it is a sata disk
[04:27] <xfab> just a last question, would you guys recommend installing INITNG?
[04:27] <comoddor1> ikonia?
[04:27] <Toma-> soundray: ok :D im just really confused. ill sit here and watch :D
[04:27] <Rooy> ikonia: the default setup has lots of servers listed, but adding new one requires a trip to preference though
[04:28] <coffeegrindah> I'm having troubles formatting a USB stick.. I get so far as partitioning and creating a fat16 partition of 800M but I cant seem to get the 2nd parion working.. (ext2)
[04:28] <Rooy> secion8: no idea about that
[04:28] <swany> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11506/
[04:28] <swany> done
[04:31] <dyrne> comoddor1: mkfs.vfat /dev/sda1    where sda1 is whatever partition.  does that not work?
[04:31] <xfab> Toma-: would you recommend the use of INITNG?
[04:31] <dyrne> comoddor1: sudo of course
[04:31] <Toma-> xfab: i would. but, upstart its just as quick... nearly
[04:31] <secion8> Ok, Anyone else know?
[04:31] <Toma-> xfab: i used initng on my dapper and earlier installs. ive got it on a pentium 2 266mhz and it boots under 20 secs
[04:31] <xfab> Toma-: ok, I'm using dapper though
[04:31] <xfab> Toma-: cool :)
[04:31] <Toma-> *nod* :D
[04:31] <xfab> Toma-: well, then I'll install that *hrhr*
[04:31] <Toma-> xfab: it again is a bit of a pain, but really worth it once everything is set and ready
[04:31] <duncan_> nnms
[04:31] <xfab> Toma-: I'll just look for a good tutorial, then it should be possible (even though I'm not really experienced with linux
[04:31] <lugod> Toma-: is initng an alternative to upstart and sysvinit?
[04:32] <xfab> lugod: yes
[04:32] <Toma-> lugod: yes.
[04:32] <duncan_> anyone know where I can get a copy of LinuxMCE?
[04:32] <soundray> swany: let's see if removing and reinserting the top-level driver modules results in any error messages:
[04:35] <swany> ok .... :)
[04:37] <Toma-> its incredibly fast. only problem is its alot different to the old system so people wont be able to change to it easily.
[04:37] <_3dc> #bash could help me with my bash-problem. so thx for pointing me into the right direction. thx, and cucu
[04:37] <x86_> I think Ubuntu is the best Linux distro I have ever used and this means two things their is someting wrong with it that I dont know about or______
[04:37] <soundray> swany: 'sudo rmmod snd_emu10k1_synth ; sudo rmmod snd_emu10k1 ; sudo modprobe snd_emu10k1_synth'. Any errors?
[04:37] <Toma-> duncan_: the LinuxMCE website?
[04:37] <jcaceres> hello in am using ubuntu 6.10 about the compiler "make" i would like to know if its the same of gmake, adn inf it's not where can i get gmake
[04:37] <swany> 2 secs
[04:37] <swany> ERROR: Module snd_emu10k1 is in use
[04:37] <soundray> jcaceres: make is gmake in ubuntu
[04:37] <duncan_> Toma-:  they've been on engadget so all the bandwidth got used up, and unfortunately he doesn't have it on sourceforge
[04:37] <soundray> swany: is audacity still open?
[04:37] <Toma-> duncan_: torrent?
[04:37] <jcaceres> soundray,  thanks
[04:37] <wols> yes gmake is GNU make
[04:37] <disgrntld> im trying to setup SSH to use just keys for authentication, no logins, anyone have a good guide for this?
[04:37] <duncan_> Toma-:  havn't found one yet
[04:37] <swany> nope
[04:37] <disgrntld> i'm following this one guide i found and it isnt working, not sure what i am missing
[04:37] <skuld> OMG!  YOU GUYS ARE FAH-MAZING!
[04:37] <soundray> swany: closed the Sound Prefs dialog?
[04:37] <soundray> disgrntld: http://pkeck.myweb.uga.edu/ssh/
[04:37] <swany> yup
[04:37] <swany> 2 windows open this and a terminal
[04:37] <Toma-> (zombie xmms?)
[04:37] <slacker_nl> disgrntld: http://www.math.ualberta.ca/imaging/snfs/passwordless.html
[04:37] <soundray> swany: 'ps aux | grep xmms' showing any zombie processes?
[04:37] <skuld> neozen ; you ROCK!
[04:37] <x86_> th
[04:37] <swany> swany     7907  0.0  0.0   3900   804 pts/2    R+   15:36   0:00 grep xmms
[04:37] <shadu> how can i see what /dev/ a unmounted harddisk is?
[04:37] <coffeegrindah> is there any reason that my usb flash drive would take forever to format to ext2 and then end up not working?
[04:37] <soundray> swany: okay, no xmms running
[04:37] <wols> shadu: dmesg
[04:37] <swany> dont see it
[04:38] <wols>  /proc/ide too
[04:38] <swany> how do i kill the proccess?
[04:38] <wols> shadu: kill what is not running?
[04:38] <soundray> swany: there is no xmms, so there's nothing to kill. (The grep xmms revealed only itself)
[04:38] <swany> k
[04:39] <lefrenchy> hi people
[04:39] <shadu> wols: well im trying to mount that harddisk.. got everything else mounted but got to do this one manually (its a sata harddisk)
[04:39] <Rooy> hi lefrenchy
[04:39] <lefrenchy> hi Rooy
[04:39] <x86_> hi
[04:39] <lefrenchy> can someone help me with nvidia/feisty?
[04:39] <wols> shadu: sorry. was a wrong nick complete. meant swany
[04:40] <swany>  sudo rmmod snd_emu10k1
[04:40] <swany> ERROR: Module snd_emu10k1 is in use
[04:40] <Mena> i can upgrade to fiesty stable from alpha right
[04:40] <Mena> and every thing wil be fine ?!
[04:40] <swany> i tried each command seperately
[04:40] <soundray> swany: 'ps aux | grep mix' showing any processes?
[04:40] <Mena> will*
[04:40] <CharlieC`> how can I upgrade my edgy to feisty?
[04:41] <swany> ps aux | grep mix
[04:41] <swany> swany     5113  0.0  1.5<PHONE_NUMBER>0 ?        S    14:12   0:01 /usr/lib/gnome-applets/mixer_applet2 --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_MixerApplet_Factory --oaf-ior-fd=24
[04:41] <swany> swany     8051  0.0  0.0   3904   816 pts/2    S+   15:40   0:00 grep mix
[04:41] <soundray> Mena: yes. #ubuntu+1 for feisty questions please
[04:41] <Mena> ok
[04:41] <soundray> CharlieC #ubuntu+1 for feisty questions please
[04:41] <Mena> Thanks
[04:41] <lefrenchy> CharlyC: http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/03/upgrade-ubuntu-610-edgy-eft-to-ubuntu.html
[04:42] <shadu> wols: wohoo, got it mounted, thx :)
[04:42] <soundray> swany: 'kill 5113'
[04:42] <swany> k
[04:42] <x86_> I'm trying to figure out what is the best command to configure sound cards
[04:42] <swany> then the original command?
[04:42] <Heroin> howto save and exit a document your editing in VI?
[04:42] <erUSUL> Heroin: :wq
[04:43] <erUSUL> Heroin: in command mode
[04:43] <soundray> swany: yes
[04:43] <swany> ok its found a new device
[04:43] <swany> it did it 3 times :
[04:43] <soundray> swany: don't paste please
[04:44] <recoding> anyone help me with a GRUB problem?
[04:44] <soundray> swany: can you put it on the pastebin?
[04:44] <Dhanjel> Which tv playing software (for ivtv based card) would you recommend?
[04:44] <swany> put what ?
[04:44] <Toma-> Dhanjel: tvtime
[04:44] <Toma-> recoding: what grub problem?
[04:44] <Dhanjel> Toma-, ok, till try it, thanks.
[04:45] <Heroin> erUSUL how to enter command mode?
[04:45] <Toma-> Dhanjel: np :)
[04:45] <Heroin> i used VI like 2 years ago.. switch 2 nano and now iam back 2 vi
[04:45] <swany> lsmod?
[04:46] <swany> soundray? paste the a new lsmod?
[04:46] <erUSUL> Heroin: <Esc>  :wq <Enter>
[04:46] <recoding> Toma: it is looking for hda  (i think) i jsut get GRUB, no GRUB Loading stage2..... i have hdb, hdc & hdd, my linux is on hdd and my windows on hdc, hdb is my disc for files, and for some reason GRBU wont load for me, i got in here using a floppy disc i made from my laptop
[04:46] <swany> if so its here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11509/
[04:47] <Dhanjel> Toma-, seems to be problem with ATI based card, any other recommendations? :)
[04:50] <Toma-> Dhanjel: ...really?! ;/ umm xawtv? that can record too
[04:50] <Toma-> (its pretty ugly tho)
[04:50] <Dhanjel> Toma-, :/
[04:50] <soundray> swany: sorry, doorbell
[04:50] <swany> no prob
[04:50] <Dhanjel> Toma-, xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.
[04:50] <recoding> Toma-:  it is looking for hda  (i think) i jsut get GRUB, no GRUB Loading stage2..... i have hdb, hdc & hdd, my linux is on hdd and my windows on hdc, hdb is my disc for files, and for some reason GRBU wont load for me, i got in here using a floppy disc i made from my laptop
[04:50] <Hunter4242> Hello all, I've just installed ubuntu on my laptop, but I'm unable to connect to a wireless network. I'm not really sure what to do with it at this point
[04:50] <swany> did you mean me to post the new lsmod?
[04:50] <Toma-> yikes
[04:50] <soundray> swany: I meant the message about the three devices found
[04:50] <shal3r> Can i allow my user to do things like using Synaptic without entering password each time ?
[04:50] <xfab> Toma-: I got to go, I'll try out initng
[04:50] <xfab> Toma-: cu and have a nice day
[04:50] <swany> oh no it appeared on the bottom right
[04:50] <Toma-> recoding: sounds like a grub configuration problem.
[04:50] <swany> in a square boc
[04:50] <Toma-> xfab: good job :D cya
[04:50] <swany> box
[04:50] <soundray> swany: can you just retry the sound in audacity
[04:50] <swany> exactly the same :(
[04:50] <barnball> hey folks...having issues installing a printer in ubuntu....
[04:50] <soundray> shal3r: open a terminal, run 'sudo -i' and call synaptic or whatever is necessary from there
[04:50] <barnball> but according to google im not the only one lol :-D
[04:50] <soundray> swany: dang
[04:50] <recoding> Toma-: Fabulous, where do i go to fix it? i think thre is another GRUB Location, i boot from floppy disc inot the (hd1,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst and it works, i get the right menu up, but somewhere there is anoyther GRUB thats trying to load, but i dont know where
[04:50] <barnball> its a lexmark X75...
[04:50] <ddavies_> Hi.  I'm trying to install qt4 packages and have had success except that I can't find a package that provides the lib/ directory or it's contents.  Is there a package?
[04:50] <shal3r> soundray, no, user wants to launch Synaptic as always but without entering password each time
[04:50] <IgorSobreira> hey guys...i have a video .rmvb ....it plays with realplay....but there is no sound....do o need to install something else?
[04:51] <tyk12avy> hi
[04:51] <recoding> hi
[04:51] <Pici> !hi
[04:51] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:51] <soundray> swany: run 'dmesg' -- did the module insertion leave any traces in the last few lines?
[04:51] <recoding> cheat _
[04:51] <tyk12avy> I have a problem with the character encoding
[04:51] <neozen> skuld: any luck?
[04:51] <Rooy> IgorSobreira: try running realplay from a terminal and see the output if there's any hint
[04:51] <skuld> neozen: It worked!
[04:51] <skuld> Beautifully.
[04:51] <neozen> awesome
[04:51] <tyk12avy> I have a CD with some mp3 which contain turkish characters in the filenames
[04:51] <swany> nope
[04:51] <skuld> And you are chatting with me now on mah wirless!
[04:51] <Toma-> recoding: youre systems grub configuration is in /boot/grub/menu.lst ...i wouldnt reccomend tearing it apart without backing it up first. preferebly to the same folder.
[04:51] <shal3r> Can i allow my user to do things like using Synaptic without entering password each time ?
[04:56] <Toma-> shal3r: not without compromising your systems security
[04:56] <Hunter4242> My laptop's wireless NIC isn't showing up in my network tools, and the wired NIC can't seem to get an IP from my college's network, can someone give me a hand?
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: congrats
[04:56] <tyk12avy> I cannot copy files from CD that contains turkish characters in the filename
[04:56] <shal3r> Toma-, doesn`t matter
[04:56] <eetfunk> Hi all, I just installed ClamAV on Ubuntu, but it says it's outdated when I run FreshClam.  Is there an up to date package for Ubuntu somewhere?  The Clam site only has one for Debian (and other distros).  Just don't want to break anything...
[04:56] <swany> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11511/
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: you've now gone through one of the more troubling things one must do in linux
[04:56] <skuld> neozen : Thank-you guys so much, you were fabulous.
[04:56] <Toma-> shal3r: i mean, seriously....
[04:56] <recoding> Toma-:Done so there is a menu.lst_backup in there, but i dont think that is the problem, it cant get to stage 2, but i dont know how to fix, i do a (in grub) fine /boot/grub/stage2 i get (fd0) and (hd1,0) and im not sure how to fix, thankyou so far for your help btw :D
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: no worries
[04:56] <ravi_master> hey
[04:56] <Kevlar_Soul>
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: just help someone else out when they need it
[04:56] <barnball> can anyone help me out? i try adding the printer, its recognized and all, but as soon as i click apply it does its thing and then nothing, and im back at add printer...
[04:56] <skuld> neozen : If that was one of the harder things then Linux ain't got shi-at on me.
[04:56] <shal3r> Toma-, i know what i am doing for costumers computer in office without any network
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: its how the whole community support thing works
[04:56] <ikonia_> skuld there is no need for bad language
[04:56] <Toma-> shal3r: rightio
[04:56] <skuld> neozen : *nods*  I shall do mah best.
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: yeah.... its stable as heck.. once you get it up and running
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: you don't game much do you?
[04:56] <Toma-> recoding: im finding it a little hard to understand you :D
[04:56] <soundray> shal3r: set timestamp_timeout to a higher value?
[04:56] <CheshireViking> shal3r, by there's no network, do you mean that there's no internet access?
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: as in computer games
[04:56] <skuld> neozen : Not a lot.  Guild Wars is about it.
[04:56] <soundray> swany: there is an IRQ routing problem though...
[04:56] <neozen> skuld: good
[04:57] <OuZo> how do i  convert html to pdf? thanks
[04:57] <neozen> skuld: linux is iffy on running windows games... biiiiig pain in arse
[04:57] <shal3r> CheshireViking, yes
[04:57] <swany> ok how do i sort that? :)
[04:57] <shal3r> soundray, where i can set it?
[04:57] <tyk12avy> I cannot copy files from CD that contains turkish characters in the filename, do you know how to manage this?
[04:57] <ravi_master> neozen: ever try cedega?
[04:57] <skuld> neozen : Got it.  I don't even know if there is a Linux version of GW yet..
[04:57] <neozen> ravi_master: no
[04:57] <Kevlar_Soul> What is a scripting interface?
[04:57] <hylje> wine runs certain games quite well
[04:57] <barnball> printer help from anyone?
[04:57] <neozen> ravi_master: I don't game
[04:57] <tarzeau> tyk12avy: use mc?
[04:57] <neozen> ravi_master: starcraft is about it
[04:57] <fqh> hi
[04:57] <soundray> swany: can you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst with sudo and find the #kopt line. Add 'pci=noacpi' at the end of that line. Run 'sudo update-grub'. Reboot and check the sound again.
[04:57] <neozen> naturally... that works great in wine
[04:57] <soundray> shal3r: man sudoers
[04:57] <tyk12avy> tarzeau, I have tried with krusader no chance than I have tried with the classic explorer windows from Ubuntu, no chance
[04:57] <ravi_master> neozen: for me, all I do is some card game when I am bored
[04:57] <recoding> Toma-: thats easy to undersand lol, ok i have hdb hdc and hdd, when i Bootup it jut says GRUB, so i reboot with a floppy disc in and i get a menu, that tries to boot to hd2,0 doesnt work, nor does hd1,0 so i press C to get to the command line, and i enter configfile (hd1,0)/boot/grub/menu.lst and it works, thats how i got in here, but for some reason that doesnt boot first, i tihnk another copy of GRUB is somewhere on the system, from wiping Fedora Cor
[04:57] <recoding> e i presme (sorry noob, didnt think of the consquences)
[04:57] <CheshireViking> shal3r, still sounds risky to me, this sounds like what you need - http://snippets.dzone.com/posts/show/838
[04:57] <recoding> wow, i write too much ='[
[04:57] <neozen> ravi_master: I do more emulation then anything else
[04:57] <ravi_master> snes?
[04:57] <neozen> ravi_master: and there are plenty of emulators out there for linux
[04:57] <CheshireViking> shal3r, or perhaps not, that talks about typing sudo synaptic
[04:57] <neozen> ravi_master: snes, playstation, and nes
[04:57] <Toma-> recoding: ahh so you need to reinstall grub from ubuntu onto the MBR?
[04:57] <neozen> ravi_master: and I just got an n64 emulator working
[04:57] <soundray> swany: does that make sense? I forgot to add 'save & close' after editing the #kopt line
[04:57] <l90bpm> does the playstation emulator run good?
[04:58] <tyk12avy> I cannot copy files from CD that contains turkish characters in the filename, do you know how to manage this?
[04:58] <Toma-> l90bpm: epsxe?
[04:58] <recoding> toma-:Yes! that would work, how would i go about that, i hear (from looking for the past 2 sdays ) that you cannot edit, the MBR, only overwrite it so how would i do that? thankyouuuuu!
[04:58] <l90bpm> whichever
[04:58] <neozen> yeah
[04:58] <neozen> epsxe works great
[04:58] <tyk12avy> I cannot copy files from CD that contains turkish characters in the filename, do you know how to manage this? I cannot see them
[04:58] <jberniol> one question: I have a core.9444 file in my user directory: what is that ?
[04:58] <l90bpm> tried all the others...  never ran a ps emulator
[05:03] <soundray> !repeat | tyk12avy
[05:03] <ubotu> tyk12avy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:03] <wols> jberniol: a coredump
[05:03] <neozen> you need to get the right plugins (use zophar.net) and the bios from the playstation
[05:03] <jberniol> can I remove it ?
[05:03] <wols> yes
[05:03] <jberniol> ok, thanks
[05:03] <l90bpm> <-- has every n64 game
[05:03] <l90bpm> lol
[05:03] <comoddor1> how can i reconfigure my sata disk of windows installation so i can write on it?
[05:03] <Toma-> l90bpm: yeh epsxe is the bomb. runs lots of isos great... doesnt look as good as a good ol PS1 tho :)
[05:03] <proppy> hi, is there a recommanded channel for festy installation bug reporting ?
[05:03] <swany> ok
[05:03] <soundray> !fuse > comoddor1, please read ubotu's pm
[05:03] <swany> going to reboot
[05:03] <Hunter4242> I'm having issues getting my wireless NIC to work with Ubuntu, it shows up in the device manager, but not the network tools
[05:03] <neozen> Toma-: I agree
[05:03] <recoding> Toma-: Yes! that would work, how would i go about that, i hear (from looking for the past 2 sdays ) that you cannot edit, the MBR, only overwrite it so how would i do that? thankyouuuuu!
[05:03] <Toma-> !grub | recoding
[05:03] <ubotu> recoding: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:03] <neozen> Toma-: goes all blocky sometimes
[05:03] <recoding> i knew tha
[05:03] <barnball> anyone know why it wouldn't install my printer? other than the fact that according to google the lexmark x75 and *nix hate each other?
[05:03] <comoddor1> ubuntu pm????
[05:03] <comoddor1> what's that?
[05:03] <l90bpm> I don't ever get time to play many games :(
[05:03] <recoding> Toma-:thankyou! i will look at pages and get back to you, thankyou soo much!
[05:03] <soundray> comoddor1: ubotu sent you a private message
[05:03] <billy> barball:  i've heard the same.
[05:03] <Toma-> l90bpm: muopen64 is good for n64 games
[05:03] <l90bpm> barball.. I was told there's a lot of issues on lexmark printers
[05:03] <barnball> yea, thats what im seein on google...
[05:03] <l90bpm> gonna get it in a minute Toma..   thanks
[05:03] <Toma-> l90bpm: np
[05:03] <billy> hp is the way to go.
[05:03] <IgorSobreira> hey..i have a filme .rmvb that doenst play songs....anybody knows the problem?
[05:03] <barnball> yea, well ive had this lexmark forever and dont have the money for a new printer....guess for now im stuck with hookin it up to my xp laptop and redneck engineering it...bah
[05:03] <l90bpm> hp is great till it's time to buy ink
[05:03] <Dave_W> hey all
[05:03] <swany> ok so its still looping
[05:03] <l90bpm> speaking of emulation..   what is a good windoze emulator?
[05:03] <swany> but i got a crash report aparently
[05:03] <l90bpm> gonna ditch windoze all together
[05:03] <swany> oh xirc closed unexpectadly
[05:03] <Dave_W> opinions on Mepis?
[05:03] <soundray> swany: can you just check that pci=noacpi appears when you do a 'cat /proc/cmdline'
[05:03] <Gorgapor> question: I seem to be missing the info pages for alot of utilities, like paste, cat, and "info info" too. Is there a package that has these?
[05:03] <ddavies_> Does anyone know how I can find out what package creates a given directory?
[05:03] <barnball> hey heres a random thought...if i set up a windows VM on one of my linux boxes...could i get the printer working that way? or no?
[05:03] <swany> root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash
[05:04] <swany> is all that appears
[05:04] <Dave_W> printer driver problem??
[05:04] <barnball> yea, lexmark X75....need i say more? lol
[05:04] <IgorSobreira> hey..i have a filme .rmvb that doenst play songs....anybody knows the problem?
[05:04] <soundray> swany: something has gone wrong with the boot option setting then. What do you get from 'grep kopt /boot/grub/menu.lst'?
[05:04] <Dave_W> am a noob at all of this, but how about ndis wrapper
[05:04] <Dave_W> ?
[05:05] <swany> ## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
[05:05] <swany> ## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
[05:05] <swany> ##      kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
[05:05] <swany> ##      kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
[05:05] <swany> # kopt=root=UUID=de135c33-da24-4f7c-bec1-6c83e5573007 ro
[05:05] <swany> # kopt_2_6=root=/dev/sda1 ro
[05:05] <swany> i pasted what you wanted after that
[05:05] <soundray> swany: please don't paste here
[05:09] (octoberdan/#ubuntu) Toma-: I can boot into my old kernel (2.6.8)
[05:09] (comoddor1/#ubuntu) anybody help?
[05:09] (comoddor1/#ubuntu) how can i reconfigure my sata disk of windows installation so i can write on it?
[05:09] (swany/#ubuntu) add it in a new line?
[05:09] (octoberdan/#ubuntu) Toma-: I'm running it now actually
[05:09] (CreepyCrawly/#ubuntu) anyone manage to fix the usb mic on dell m1210 ?
[05:09] (comoddor1/#ubuntu) i am a complete newbie
[05:09] (SurfnKid/#ubuntu) Hunter4242: set it up manually under /etc/network/interfaces
[05:09] (Toma-/#ubuntu) octoberdan: have you checked the /boot/grub/menu.lst and seen if the root= options are the same?
[05:10] (octoberdan/#ubuntu) Toma-: Yes, and they are
[05:10] (lillrazor/#ubuntu) anyone who knows hpw I can get sound in my external speakers?
[05:10] (Toma-/#ubuntu) rightio
[05:10] (lillrazor/#ubuntu) *how
[05:10] <soundray> comoddor1: have you found the message that ubotu sent you? Look around your IRC window.
[05:10] <CreepyCrawly> !mic
[05:10] <comoddor1> i can't do that
[05:10] <Hunter4242> SurfnKid: You mean via the terminal? I'm pretty much brand new to linux
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <comoddor1> i need help step by step
[05:10] <SurfnKid> Hunter4242: ill guide you quickly before i leave
[05:10] <CreepyCrawly> !usb mic
[05:10] <SurfnKid> brb
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb mic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:10] <soundray> swany: no, I said "add it at the end of the line".
[05:11] <comoddor1> i get error messages that are not listed there
[05:11] <swany> which kopt line?
[05:12] <Hunter4242> SurfnKid: Ok, i've gotten to the netowrk folder and opened the interfaces file in vi, what do i need to do?
[05:12] <soundray> swany: the one that begins with
[05:12] <soundray> swany: the one that begins with # kopt= and contains the UUID as well.
[05:12] <swany> k
[05:13] <octoberdan> Toma-: How would I try to reconfigure?
[05:13] <soundray> comoddor1: use the pastebin to show us the error messages (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org)
[05:13] <swany> ok rebooting
[05:13] <soundray> comoddor1: in this channel, you can get help if you ask specific questions about specific problems.
[05:13] <soundray> swany hold on
[05:14] <comoddor1> is there any easy way to make my ntfs sata disk writable?
[05:14] <comoddor1> i have mounted him
[05:14] <nalioth> comoddor1: use Windows?
[05:14] <Toma-> octoberdan: well when the kernel package gets installed, it updates menu.lst with the "proper" options for it. are you doing anything unusual to get the kernels on there?
[05:14] <soundray> comoddor1: yes. ubotu has sent you a message about that.
[05:14] <comoddor1> i want to use vmplayer to run windows installation through ubuntu
[05:14] <comoddor1> to run dreamweaver
[05:15] <comoddor1> and some other stuff
[05:15] <Federico90> hi
[05:15] <ravi_master> good luck commoddor1
[05:15] <octoberdan> Toma-: hmmm... following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158
[05:15] <neozen> comoddor1: don't use vmplayer
[05:15] <octoberdan> Toma-: but other then that, no
[05:15] <neozen> comoddor1: vmware server is now free
[05:15] <soundray> comoddor1: if you want to run Dreamweaver and some other proprietary Windows stuff, just boot Windows.
[05:15] <neozen> comoddor1: there's a great guide for getting it up and running under ubuntu
[05:15] <Federico90> who knows how to use the wireless by console?
[05:16] <neozen> comoddor1: I'll track it down for you
[05:16] <Toma-> octoberdan: and its not an SATA drive?
[05:16] <octoberdan> Toma-: The one strange thing is I'm a Debian convert. After some wrestling I was able to convert from Debian to Ubuntu with a successful dist-upgrade and an install of ubuntu-standerd and ubuntu-desktop
[05:16] <octoberdan> Toma-: Right
[05:16] <CroX> Ohnoes.. http://www.ubuntu-women.org/ - Varfr verkar kvinnor ha ett behov av att alienera sig?
[05:16] <octoberdan> Toma-: I had the Debian version of grub installed, I just downgraded to Ubuntu. I'm going to try and reinstall the kernel
[05:16] <Toma-> octoberdan: impressive :D
[05:16] <octoberdan> Toma-: It took a long long while, but I did it
[05:17] <Toma-> octoberdan: no easy feat :D nice job. what file system are you using btw? have you got that compiled?
[05:17] <ryanpg> does dapper (and breezy) use PAM to authenticate users? or something else?
[05:17] <mrpoundsign> keen!  my system might boot today!
[05:17] <froyd> hey have anybody here used gnomeart ?
[05:17] <Federico90> anyone?
[05:18] <froyd> or even changed splashscreens, login screens n stuff like that ?
[05:18] <Toma-> froyd: as long as there are no follow up questions, yes. :)
[05:18] <mrpoundsign> I installed kubuntu-desktop...  how do I revert everythign back to gnome?  kde isn't for me (sucks)
[05:18] <bcochofel> I've noticed that ubuntu starts ssh-agent auto for every user. How can I run ssh-add auto whenever a user logins (in X11) and ask for a pass to use in all programs?
[05:19] <mrpoundsign> specifically, the program defaults are now kde programs in Firefox...
[05:19] <billy> mrpoundsign: just log out of kde.  login in under gnome
[05:19] <froyd> Toma-: Ok ... i wont do it to u then ...but im havin a lot of problems trying to launch my gnome-splashscreen
[05:19] <froyd> :(
[05:19] <octoberdan> Toma-: Toma- ext3, I believe
[05:19] <mrpoundsign> billy:  I did that.  also, the kubuntu boot splash screen, and kdm -- though I kinda like kdm :)
[05:19] <neozen> comoddor1: you still there?
[05:19] <Toma-> ahhhh 1:20am here. time for bed soon :/
[05:20] <Toma-> froyd: ahh i dont use gnome sorry
[05:20] <neozen> comoddor1: found that guide for getting the free vmware server up and running on ubuntu, you'll find it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209&highlight=vmware
[05:20] <Toma-> octoberdan: do you *need* to compile your own kernel?
[05:21] <mrpoundsign> can I just reconfigure ubuntu-desktop?
[05:21] <srjames> it's always good to compile your own kernel
[05:21] <Swanyl> still no change
[05:21] <srjames> if you know what you're doing.
[05:21] <Toma-> srjames: maybe on gentoo.
[05:21] <lugod> Toma-: i'm trying to compile ruby against tk8.5 now
[05:21] <octoberdan> Toma-: Probably not, but I thought it'd be fun. The precompiled ones provided by ubuntu are giving me the same issue though
[05:21] <neozen> I want to recompile my car
[05:21] <srjames> Toma-, yeah... i suppose.. ubuntu seems to be great out of the box
[05:22] <soundray> Swanyl: "grep acpi /proc/cmdline" -- does it give you any output?
[05:22] <mrpoundsign> neozen: always a good idea!
[05:22] <Toma-> lugod: cool :) read all those freindly ./configure --help options for xft and AA and such
[05:22] <Swanyl> none
[05:22] <Swanyl> its not shutting down properly either
[05:22] <soundray> Swanyl: did you run 'sudo update-grub' like I told you?
[05:22] <Swanyl> i have to force shut it down
[05:22] <Toma-> octoberdan: well the problem must lie else where...
[05:22] <Swanyl> yes
[05:23] <lugod> Toma-: actually I'm trying to generate a package with apt-get source --build :)
[05:23] <soundray> Swanyl: pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst please
[05:23] <Toma-> lugod: oh god :D
[05:23] <mrpoundsign> Feisty == goodness.  Finally Apache 2.2.4 and PHP 5.1.2
[05:23] <soundray> Feisty == offtopic here
[05:23] <neozen> lugod: you have fun with that
[05:23] <Swanyl> whats the edit command?
[05:24] <soundray> Swanyl: gksudo gedit
[05:24] <recoding> toma-: ok i tried that, and i did the Find thing here, it said it was hd2,0 but its hd1,0 (found that out after rebooting and doing at the GRUB prompt
[05:24] <lugod> Toma-: didn't work :(
[05:25] <lugod> Toma-: weird. it was configured using --with-tcl-include=/usr/include/tcl8.5 which is correct
[05:25] <lugod> Toma-: guess i will try compiling manually
[05:25] <Toma-> hmm
[05:25] <Swanyl> there is nothing in boot/grub/menu.1st
[05:25] <Toma-> lugod: usually best. sometimes the extra options are missing
[05:25] <StasIsLovE> Hi, im trying to install one thing, (follow the tutorial) and one of the steps is to write: svn checkout url... in the terminal, but i get "svn" not foud, any idea what to do to get it working?
[05:25] <Toma-> god i need slep. cyas l8r
[05:25] <soundray> Swanyl: don't mistake 1 and l
[05:25] <lugod> Toma-: the tk part mysteriously failed to compile (cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp//usr/lib/ruby/1.8/i486-linux/tcltklib.so': No such file or directory)
[05:26] <billy> is there a way to record PCM output?
[05:26] <skuld> Hey, does anyone know what plugins or whatnot I would need to play mah music?
[05:26] <lugod> Toma-: sounds likely
[05:26] <Swanyl> i copy pasted what you had typed
[05:26] <octoberdan> Toma-: Hmmm haveing some problems nstalling the package I created... I'll be right back
[05:26] <neozen> skuld: yeah
[05:26] <soundray> Swanyl: you need to copy the leading / also
[05:26] <neozen> skuld: a ton of stuff depending on what format it is
[05:26] <Toma-> octoberdan: im out. sorry :(
[05:26] <neozen> !codecs
[05:26] <skuld> neozen : You could be a god.
[05:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:26] <neozen> that has everything
[05:27] <skuld> neozen : Oh lord, just what I needed to hear.  XD
[05:27] <Hunter4242> SurfnKid: Ok, i've gotten to the netowrk folder and opened the interfaces file in vi, what do i need to do to configure my NICs?
[05:27] <disasm> python-numeric doesn't include LinearAlgebra, and without modifying my PATH to force it to look in my preinstalled one, it finds Numeric first in /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/Numeric and then gives an error LinearAlgebra not found
[05:27] <Swanyl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11517/
[05:27] <neozen> skuld: I could be.... but more likely I'm just an somewhat cute 6' tall boy-thing
[05:27] <froyd> do any of u guys had or have problems with ruby for the gnome-splashscreen ?
[05:27] <skuld> neozen : :D
[05:28] <froyd> im having a lot of problems wit this ruby :(
[05:28] <rodelrod> StasIsLovE: sudo apt-get install subversion
[05:28] <Nitro> This is really silly, but pressing delete to remove a keyboard shortcut doesn't work :p
[05:28] <StasIsLovE> rodelrod, thanks, ill try that
[05:28] <Nitro> How do I remove one?
[05:28] <Kevlar_Soul_> mplayer is not starting with wmv videos embedded in websites!!!  What can I do??
[05:28] <soundray> Swanyl: you haven't run 'sudo update-grub'. Do it now.
[05:28] <recoding> toma-:i swear this thing hates me, i know its hd1,0 at bootup, but in the GUI atm i get it as hd2,0 and hd1,0 is a "unknow file system" madd??
[05:28] <deb_user> i'm having some unmet dependecies problems in dapper.  Would someone take a quick look at this and see if they can give me some pointers?  should be pretty easy to fix: http://pastebin.ca/406671
[05:28] <jduran> Hey ppl
[05:28] <soundray> Swanyl: and paste the file again
[05:28] <jduran> does Kubuntu has GCC?
[05:29] <neozen> Kevlar_Soul_: there's a mozilla plugin which concerns mplayer
[05:29] <pqr> hi
[05:29] <neozen> Kevlar_Soul_: do a little research
[05:29] <soundray> jduran: yes. Install build-essential
[05:29] <jduran> does Kubuntu has GCC?
[05:29] <neozen> Kevlar_Soul_: might even be in the repos
[05:29] <jduran> ok
[05:29] <pqr> sound doesn't work in one of my account...it works in other acct
[05:29] <jduran> thanks
[05:29] <skuld> neozen : None of this makes sense?  So, it doesn't play MP3s?  (Rhythmbox, I mean.)
[05:29] <Kevlar_Soul_> neozen I searched the syantic for it
[05:29] <pqr> this happened after i changed mic settings in sound-recorder
[05:29] <neozen> skuld: no... it can
[05:29] <jduran> and GCJ?
[05:29] <Kevlar_Soul_> neozen I tried, Im asking for hel[
[05:29] <skuld> neozen : *holds head*
[05:29] <Kevlar_Soul_> help
[05:30] <pqr> i guess there is some problem with permissions....any idea?
[05:30] <octoberdan> I'm having some strange problems when trying to install the package I created for my compiled kernel: http://paste.uni.cc/13837
[05:30] <skuld> I'm toast.
[05:30] <Nitro> ?
[05:30] <soundray> !software | jduran
[05:30] <Kevlar_Soul_> synaptic
[05:30] <ubotu> jduran: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[05:30] <Swanyl> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11518/
[05:30] <octoberdan> "Couldn't find package update-grub" ???
[05:30] <neozen> skuld: no.. you're not toast
[05:30] <pqr> when i click on "volume" button...i get "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found." error
[05:30] <neozen> skuld: there's things which make it easy
[05:30] <jduran> where can I get information about packages?
[05:30] <Crazytom> skuld, wireless card not working still?
[05:30] <Kevlar_Soul_> Mozilla plugin for mplayer, anyone
[05:30] <Kevlar_Soul_> ?
[05:30] <disasm> octoberdan: update-grub is part of grub package
[05:30] <neozen> skuld: but they're alpha software... which means sometimes they break
[05:31] <skuld> Crazytom: IT IS!  Now I want mah music to play, and my computer doesn't.
[05:31] <neozen> skuld: what format are your files?
[05:31] <Kevlar_Soul_> anyone know of a deb file that will install codecs w32?????
[05:31] <skuld> neozen : Most of them are mp3s.
[05:31] <disasm> Kevlar_Soul_: mplayerplug-in I think is the name of it, I'm on my work debian system though, so couldn't tell you
[05:31] <octoberdan> disasm: But I have that installed... Why would it be bitching at me?
[05:31] <Kevlar_Soul_> ok
[05:31] <octoberdan> disasm: And shouldn't it be grub-update?
[05:31] <LightCatcher> Is there a way to run KDE applications in GNOME so I don't have to install KDE just to run one program that I'm curious about?
[05:31] <jduran> I use debian, but there is friend that wants to use Kubuntu and he is programmer and he needs em
[05:31] <ravi_master> octo, calm down
[05:31] <ravi_master> family freindly channel
[05:31] <disasm> octoberdan: are you running update-grub?
[05:31] <ardchoille> Kevlar_Soul_: mozilla-mplayer
[05:31] <MikeW> I've spent the morning searching for this, but does anyone know of a free tool that runs on linux that can break the password of a microsoft word document. There are windows tools, but I can't find any linux tools.
[05:32] <Crazytom> skuld, did you install xmms-mp3?
[05:32] <skuld> neozen : Probably 95% of them are mp3s.
[05:32] <Kevlar_Soul_> ardchoille:  thanks
[05:32] <octoberdan> disasm: I'm trying to install a new kernel. http://paste.uni.cc/13837
[05:32] <skuld> Crazytom : ...no?
[05:32] <gepatino> LightCatcher: you dont have to use kde to run a kde app
[05:32] <Hunter4242> Ok, i've gotten to the netowrk folder and opened the interfaces file in vi, what do i need to do to configure my NICs properly?
[05:32] <ardchoille> Kevlar_Soul_: You're welcome :)
[05:32] <octoberdan> disasm: All of the error messages are there
[05:32] <disasm> MikeW: try win tools in wine is my best guess
[05:32] <soundray> Swanyl: it hasn't worked. Go to the line that starts with "kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic" and append pci=noacpi there (with a space). Then reboot again.
[05:32] <bcochofel> Anyone here using ssh-agent?
[05:32] <octoberdan> "The provided postrm hook script [/usr/sbin/update-grub]  could not be run."
[05:32] <ravi_master> hey, skuld, you still up to no good?
[05:32] <LightCatcher> gepatino: Oh! Hahaha! Thank you. I guess I should have tried before asking. :)
[05:32] <Smirnov> anyone know how i can reset the windows user password with a ubuntu livecd?
[05:32] <Shaffox> is there a way to have different backgrounds on different workspaces ?
[05:32] <nat_> Can anyone help me with Ubuntu?
[05:32] <gepatino> LightCatcher: when you install, say k3b, kde libs are installed and you can use it from gnome
[05:32] <skuld> ravi_master : You know it.  ;)
[05:32] <neozen> skuld: its going to be ok
[05:33] <Kevlar_Soul_> codecsW32
[05:33] <jduran> ok, thanks!
[05:33] <LightCatcher> gepatino: Thank you very much.
[05:33] <disasm> octoberdan: ls /usr/sbin/update-grub
[05:33] <skuld> ravi_master : The wireless is working perfectly, but I'm running into more settings and file-format disagreements.
[05:33] <octoberdan> disasm: Not there
[05:33] <skuld> ravi_master : I just want mah music.  ;_;
[05:33] <neozen> hey guys ... how do I get mp3s to play!
[05:33] <neozen> lol
[05:33] <nat_> Hi! Very new to Ubuntu...having GTK-Gnutella problems can anyone help me?
[05:33] <ravi_master> ah ok, sudo apt-get install listen
[05:33] <disasm> octoberdan: i386 arch edgy?
[05:33] <Swanyl> ok rebooting
[05:33] <soundray> !mp3 > neozen, please read ubotu's pm
[05:34] <octoberdan> disasm: locate shows it at /sbin/update-grub
[05:34] <neozen> I was afraid someone would say that
[05:34] <neozen> lol
[05:34] <disasm> octoberdan: did you try apt-get remove grub;apt-get install grub?
[05:34] <neozen> tons of copouts in that bot
[05:34] <ravi_master> skuld: you got that command, just execute, wait a second, go to applications, music, listen, start adding your music, and enjoy.
[05:34] <neozen> !mp3
[05:34] <pqr> having problems with sound...can't play sound in one acct...getting "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found."
[05:34] <pqr> works fine in other acct
[05:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:34] <Crazytom> what is the ubuntu equivelent to xmms-mp3
[05:34] <Hunter4242> I'm in my /etc/network/interfaces file in vi, what do i need to do to configure my NICs properly?
[05:35] <ravi_master> Crazytom, what do you mean?
[05:35] <skuld> rave_master : You make me happy.
[05:35] <disasm> Crazytom: I think you need to install lame from universe
[05:35] <Crazytom> that's what i used to use on fedora
[05:35] <nat_> Hi...can anyone help me with my Gtk-Gnutella problem?
[05:35] <octoberdan> disasm: Just tried that. Still fails, but with slightly different problems
[05:35] <deb_user> can somebody help me with libc6 dependency problems?
[05:36] <ravi_master> do the samething crazy
[05:36] <skuld> rave_master : ;_;
[05:36] <ravi_master> just make sure you have xmms, crazytom, do sudo apt-get install xmms xmms-mp3
[05:36] <deb_user> depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4.
[05:36] <octoberdan> disasm: It doesn't complain the package doesn't exist, but "User postinst hook script [/usr/sbin/update-grub]  failed to execute: No such file or directory
[05:36] <soundray> neozen: the first page that ubotu lists has detailed instructions on how to make MP3 work. What's the problem?
[05:36] <Kevlar_Soul_> Thanks I found the COdecw32
[05:36] <octoberdan> disasm: Should I link it?
[05:36] <Kevlar_Soul_> thank you
[05:36] <neozen> soundray: no problem at all mon
[05:36] <nat_> My GtK won't load
[05:36] <Kevlar_Soul_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/WindowsCodecs?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=Restricted&titlesearch=Titles
[05:36] <nat_> says my version is very old
[05:36] <Kevlar_Soul_> Its all there
[05:37] <soundray> neozen: what's that talk about copouts then?
[05:37] <ravi_master> skuld: did you get it working?
[05:37] <neozen> soundray: I just think the bot should spit out the apt-get line somewhere in its reply
[05:37] <neozen> lol
[05:37] <skuld> rave_master : No.
[05:37] <neozen> save people some time
[05:37] <ravi_master> ravi* it's a first name
[05:37] <swanyl> ok no difference with the sound but the startup sound only played twice.... dunno what its suppoed to do
[05:37] <octoberdan> disasm: link to /sbin/update-grub from where it is looking?
[05:37] <limasdf> i have a question!!!!
[05:38] <ardchoille> neozen: Sometimes apt-get lines differ from Dapper, Edgy, Feisty.
[05:38] <limasdf> i want install xmms
[05:38] <limasdf> but
[05:38] <soundray> swanyl: 'cat /proc/cmdline'?
[05:38] <limasdf> checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:38] <neozen> ardchoille: good point
[05:38] <limasdf> See `config.log' for more details.
[05:38] <limasdf> how can i do
[05:38] <neozen> I stand corrected
[05:38] <mcscruff> limasdf, sudo apt-get install xmms   ????
[05:38] <swanyl> root=/dev/sda1 ro quiet splash
[05:38] <JosefK> limasdf, 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[05:38] <ravi_master> Crazytom, you got your problem with xmms fixed?
[05:38] <nat_> Can anyone help me?
[05:38] <soundray> swanyl: 'uname -a'?
[05:38] <limasdf> sudo apt-get install xmms  thx i'll try it
[05:38] <neozen> skuld: you run that command I sent you?
[05:38] <nat_> where can I get some help?
[05:38] <ardchoille> neozen: But, I like your thinking :)
[05:39] <swanyl> Linux swany-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 18:03:05 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:39] <nat_> Please...I'm desperate!!
[05:39] <skuld> neozen : It told me it couldn't find one of the packafes.
[05:39] <skuld> *packages
[05:39] <neozen> skuld: ahhh
[05:39] <nat_> can you see me?
[05:39] <soundray> nat_: no
[05:39] <ravi_master> yeah, skuld needs more repos
[05:39] <neozen> skuld: I think we need to edit your repos
[05:39] <ravi_master> hahah
[05:39] <Crazytom> ravi_master, i'll deal with it later
[05:39] <neozen> load up an editor
[05:39] <ardchoille> nat_: If no one knows the answer, you will have to wait or you can try ubuntu forums.
[05:39] <neozen> with root privs
[05:39] <skuld> neozen ; ravi_master : ...okay?
[05:39] <limasdf> thx mcscruff & josefk
[05:39] <Crazytom> ravi_master, thanks anyway but i need to go
[05:39] <neozen> get to a terminal
[05:39] <nat_> ok...thanks.
[05:39] <Agrajag> !ask | nat_
[05:39] <ubotu> nat_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:40] <limasdf> xmms is installed  :)
[05:40] <deb_user> anybody know how to fix this: depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.4.
[05:40] <neozen> and type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:40] <limasdf> but
[05:40] <skuld> Me?
[05:40] <neozen> yeah
[05:40] <neozen> sorry
[05:40] <limasdf> can't I install xmms by  using ./configure?    GCC?
[05:40] <neozen> skuld: forgot to stick your name @ the front
[05:40] <nat_> my gtk-gnutella won't load. How can I upgrade if in Template it says my version is too old
[05:40] <skuld> neozen : It's all good.  I just get lost.
[05:40] <neozen> limasdf: xmms is in the repositories
[05:41] <soundray> swanyl: hello, what do you get from 'uname -a'?
[05:41] <neozen> skuld: happens in a room that moves this fast
[05:41] <skuld> neozen : :D
[05:41] <limasdf> neozen, yes but
[05:41] <swanyl> Linux swany-desktop 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Feb 1 18:03:05 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:41] <swanyl> is what i get
[05:41] <neozen> skuld: its why I run a plugin that flashes my thinklight when someone uses my name in a chat that I've opened in gaim
[05:41] <limasdf> hm..
[05:42] <limasdf> what's "build-essential" ?
[05:42] <skuld> neozen : Ah ha!
[05:42] <octoberdan> disasm: Linking worked. I'm going to try and reboot into the new kernel.
[05:42] <octoberdan> Thank you all for the help.
[05:42] <soundray> swanyl: it's not enough to make a change to a file in an editor. You have to also save it before it can take effect.
[05:42] <neozen> yeah... helps alot for easily distracted (really bouncy) types like me
[05:42] <swanyl> i know and i am
[05:42] <skuld> So, what am I supposed to be doing?
[05:42] <swanyl> i'm also running that update
[05:43] <neozen> neozen: ok.... get to terminal
[05:43] <neozen> lol
[05:43] <neozen> oops
[05:43] <skuld> Nice.