[10:09] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, why were you installing sendmail in the first place? (been missing for a while)
[10:09] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> in a terminal
[10:09] <ITS_FOR_REAL> cant send  mail..
[10:09] <chuckyp> ITS_FOR_REAL, should be able to configure it from /etc/whatever.conf
[10:09] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, nor with echo or mailing program
[10:09] <ompaul> chuckyp, it ain't debian - sudo apt-get install postfix :)
[10:09] <dabaR> HymnToLife: sudo dpkg-reconfigure ntpdate iirc
[10:09] <LjL> mikebot: dunno what nicotine is, but in general, it doesn't *really* matter if a program is for KDE or Gnome... you can use it in the other desktop anyway. except that it will install a ton of libraries
[10:09] <Jolly> how do i download something in synaptic in mulltiverse
[10:09] <Jimer> soundray, thnx
[10:09] <ITS_FOR_REAL> chuckyp, ok but i also miss sendmail.cf ...
[10:09] <HymnToLife> dabaR> tll it to ubotu ;)
[10:09] <Jimer> soundray, its taking a while
[10:09] <chuckyp> ompaul, hrm... sry bout that.  I figure they get the sudo part.  I'm a debian user myself.
[10:09] <soundray> kyevan: it takes a few steps. First you want to synchronize with a time server. Then create a reference file for the current time: 'touch /tmp/reference'
[10:10] <Jolly> what is the difference between multiverse and universe
[10:10] <vogel> !ati
[10:10] <ubotu> I guess ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:10] <HymnToLife> tell*
[10:10] <globe> !deb
[10:10] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[10:10] <LjL> mikebot: anyway nicotine appears to be a GTK program (which will be fine on Gnome, as Gnome uses GTK)
[10:10] <mikebot> LjL, okay,. thanks
[10:10] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, okay for one there is no postfix or sendmail in the default install, so install it
[10:10] <MrRio> Could someone try out this package? I'm going to start contributing a fair few packages to universe, want to make sure i've got the hang of it... http://amusd.com/debs/nannoid_1.0-1_i386.deb
[10:10] <mikebot> LjL, okay good good
[10:10] <cppnewbie> well i used ls -l /media/sdc1/directory/subdirectoryofdirectory/ and it shows up all the folders ive got in there with some... codename or something with the rwxr stuff and so on. how do i figure out if i can modify it? :S
[10:10] <iG-Shoot-Me> gr
[10:10] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, then hack the main.conf iirc and then its funtime at the oasis
[10:10] <HymnToLife> cppnewbie> which filesystem is it ?
[10:10] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, sendmail or postfix because when i install sendmail it takes away postfix
[10:10] <iG-Shoot-Me> Its installing the base system
[10:10] <cppnewbie> fat
[10:10] <iG-Shoot-Me> Then it gives me some errors
[10:10] <HymnToLife> hmm
[10:10] <LjL> mike: if you type "apt-cache show nicotine" (or whatever program), you'll see a "Depends:" line. there you can check whether the program requires libgtk-something, libgnome-something, kdelibs-something, libqt-something, and that kind of things
[10:10] <iG-Shoot-Me> Then it says tthat it cant continue
[10:10] <HymnToLife> USB, SATA or what ?
[10:11] <cppnewbie> not fat32 not fat16, fat alone
[10:11] <cppnewbie> usb
[10:11] <HymnToLife> weird
[10:11] <mikebot> LjL, okay cool, thanks
[10:11] <chuckyp> ITS_FOR_REAL, postfix is easier to work with and more secure.
[10:11] <iG-Shoot-Me> with the Unable to install initrd-tools
[10:11] <soundray> kyevan: then set a system time that is further in the future than any file on the system (probably 12pm tomorrow will be enough)
[10:11] <HymnToLife> USB Drives shoud mount rw for anyone
[10:11] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, use postfix its just easier, sendmail is book about a multi volume encyplopedia
[10:11] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, apt-cache search initrd
[10:11] <LjL> cppnewbie: look, just try copying a file *directly* into /media/sdc1, not in a subdir, and see if that works
[10:11] <HymnToLife> have you tried adding a line for it in /etc/fstab ?
[10:11] <LjL> chuckyp: his Ubuntu is not installed
[10:11] <iG-Shoot-Me> chuckyp, where do i type that
[10:11] <ompaul> chuckyp, np :)
[10:11] <dabaR> ubotu: clock is sudo dpkg-reconfigure ntpdate
[10:11] <ubotu> dabaR: okay
[10:11] <mikebot> LjL, also, under my applications>internet, i have a bunch of stuff like: kppp, krdc, krfb, kwifimanager
[10:11] <soundray> kyevan: then you find all files that need resetting, and set them to the time of the reference file. Give me a minute to compose the command...
[10:12] <mikebot> LjL, and i don't knwo what those are
[10:12] <ITS_FOR_REAL> chuckyp, ok i want it to work a php script to work "only" with just send a mail... but still postfix is easiest way to go=
[10:12] <cppnewbie> LjL doesnt work either
[10:12] <LjL> iG-Shoot-Me: in a shell (press alt+f2). won't work anyway i'm afraid
[10:12] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ?
[10:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> yeah ubuntu isnt installed..
[10:12] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> what are you trying to do now ?
[10:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> how do i get back to windows!
[10:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> I want to get back to windows!
[10:12] <chuckyp> ITS_FOR_REAL, yeah you can use postfix
[10:12] <kyevan> soundray: Wouldn't all that require root privledges?
[10:12] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> reboot your machine :p
[10:12] <LjL> mikebot: those are KDE programs. kppp is a front-end to connect using a dialup modem (or similar), krdc is a remote desktop client, krfb is a remote desktop serevr, and kwifimanager is something to do with WiFi connections
[10:12] <kyevan> At the moment the only work around I've figured out is leaving a root shell running (MAJOR MAJOR NO NO)
[10:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> GEe thanks
[10:12] <iG-Shoot-Me> As if i didnt try that..
[10:12] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, what are you talking about then?
[10:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> I get SYSTEM BOOT ERROR
[10:13] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, okay what version of windows do you have?
[10:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> Please insert a system disc when i try to boot from hard drive
[10:13] <ITS_FOR_REAL> chuckyp, ok installed... what to config now
[10:13] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> boot from the winxp CD
[10:13] <soundray> kyevan: setting the system time does. You can do it with sudo date for example.
[10:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> XP Professional
[10:13] <HymnToLife> runa recovery console
[10:13] <mikebot> LjL, how can i get rid of all of those kde things?
[10:13] <LjL> iG-Shoot-Me: use the windows rescue CD to re-create a boot sector i guess
[10:13] <HymnToLife> and run the command fixmbr
[10:13] <chuckyp> ITS_FOR_REAL, google for postfix ubuntu
[10:13] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, so install postfix it will work, stop thinkging all these things are "tightly" meshed they are all standing up in the same room handing stuff to each other but they know nothing other than their api for the next program along
[10:13] <kyevan> soundray: But, if sudo isn'y working....
[10:13] <mikebot> LjL, i don't even recall how i got them
[10:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> I dont have one..
[10:13] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, boot from xp cd go to recovery mode then fixmbr
[10:13] <soundray> kyevan: then you need to do it in the recovery console.
[10:13] <HymnToLife> then you're screwed :p
[10:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> I dont have one
[10:13] <iG-Shoot-Me> !!
[10:13] <ubotu> iG-Shoot-Me: Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:13] <Jolly>  what is the difference between multiverse and universe
[10:14] <dabaR> !components
[10:14] <ubotu> The rationale behind the different components of the ubuntu repositories (main, restricted, universe, multiverse) is described at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components
[10:14] <Jolly>  what is the difference between multiverse and universe in synaptic?
[10:14] <HymnToLife> but why did the Ubuntu install fail ?
[10:14] <iG-Shoot-Me> Because it gave me error:
[10:14] <LjL> mikebot: "sudo aptitude remove kppp krdc krfb kwifimanager" i guess. you might have other KDE programs installed too, and if you want to remove those, you could try "sudo aptitude remove kdelibs4c2"
[10:14] <HymnToLife> Jolly> the packages that are in them obviously
[10:14] <vogel> !ati
[10:14] <ubotu> well, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[10:14] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, yes but i got it installed and configed as far as i could see but still didnt work and was also missing sendmail.cf that stood in some howto that i was needed
[10:14] <iG-Shoot-Me> Unable to install initrd-tools During the "Installing the base system"
[10:15] <HymnToLife> hmmmm
[10:15] <iG-Shoot-Me> I got it again
[10:15] <HymnToLife> that's weird
[10:15] <iG-Shoot-Me> Im on a laptop right now just so you know
[10:15] <mikebot> !paste
[10:15] <ubotu> Don't flood the channel! Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[10:15] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, then you can try http://www.sysresccd.org
[10:15] <HymnToLife> well
[10:15] <iG-Shoot-Me> An error was returned while trying to install the initrd-tools package onto the target system.
[10:15] <soundray> kyevan: assuming time is set forward in the recovery console, do 'find / -newer /tmp/reference -print0 | xargs -0 touch -r /tmp/reference'
[10:15] <iG-Shoot-Me> log for the details.
[10:15] <soundray> kyevan: making sense?
[10:15] <HymnToLife> and what did the log say ?
[10:15] <LjL> cppnewbie: can you copy to it using the shell? (try    cp somefile /media/sdc1/ )
[10:15] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL,  man postconf and edit  /etc/postfix/main.cf and stop talking about sendmail.cf its harder than C++
[10:16] <iG-Shoot-Me> I cant check the log..
[10:16] <kyevan> soundray: not really. Also, ntpdate is now complaining that the port is in use
[10:16] <iG-Shoot-Me> I dont know how..
[10:16] <mikebot> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9769
[10:16] <mikebot> LjL, is that bad? haha
[10:16] <iG-Shoot-Me> And im pretty sure ubuntu has to be installed to do it
[10:16] <HymnToLife> hmpress Ctrl+Alt+Fx
[10:16] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, ok
[10:16] <HymnToLife> to get into a console
[10:16] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, before you say mysql and php What actual function do you want to preform?
[10:16] <kyevan> (I just installed "ntp-simple" at a friends insistance)
[10:16] <iG-Shoot-Me> Fx?
[10:16] <cppnewbie> LjL im not trying to copy a file but another directory
[10:16] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, thx need some time on my own now i guess...
[10:16] <LjL> mikebot: you have most of KDE installed
[10:16] <HymnToLife> and run dmesg | tail
[10:16] <mikebot> LjL, i had the kde desktop instaleld, but i guess this will remove all of that
[10:16] <mikebot> LjL, haha
[10:16] <LjL> mikebot: don't confirm that command, as i can't be sure there is not something else being removed
[10:16] <HymnToLife> F1/2/3/4/5/6/whatever
[10:17] <mikebot> LjL, it's too late for that
[10:17] <LjL> mikebot: no, you *have* the kde desktop installed
[10:17] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, i want php to send a mail through smtp...
[10:17] <LjL> cppnewbie: just try with a file first
[10:17] <soundray> kyevan: if you reboot and choose the recovery option in the grub menu, you should be able to run ntpdate without a problem.
[10:17] <Jolly> How do i switch synaptic over to a multiverse repository so i can download software from there
[10:17] <iG-Shoot-Me> HymnToLife, what do I do?
[10:17] <chuckyp> LjL, what is he trying to do?
[10:17] <mikebot> LjL, not aynmore
[10:17] <HymnToLife> but I think your CD was bad
[10:17] <LjL> mikebot: well at least you have the list of packages in the pastebin
[10:17] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, made a webbshop that need to mail product information
[10:17] <kyevan> soundray: OK, but, won't I have to do this all the time still?
[10:17] <LjL> mikebot: will be easy to reinstall
[10:17] <iG-Shoot-Me> I did it myself
[10:17] <mikebot> LjL, haha yeah, i guess that's good
[10:17] <cppnewbie> aha
[10:17] <cppnewbie> says its read only
[10:17] <mikebot> LjL, well i don't want kde anyway
[10:17] <iG-Shoot-Me> HymnToLife, I downloaded the iso myself
[10:17] <HymnToLife> have you md5sum'd it ?
[10:17] <kyevan> I kinda want something that will make it so that I won't have to deal with it
[10:17] <josep_> hi
[10:18] <chuckyp> cppnewbie, is this an ntfs partition you are working with?
[10:18] <iG-Shoot-Me> HymnToLife, ?
[10:18] <soundray> kyevan: not if you then set up a cron job or so to run ntpdate every hour
[10:18] <HymnToLife> to check if it wasn't corrupted somehow
[10:18] <Jolly> How do i switch synaptic over to a multiverse repository so i can download software from there?
[10:18] <cppnewbie> chuckyp no a fat one :P
[10:18] <HymnToLife> !md5sum
[10:18] <mikebot> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9770
[10:18] <ubotu> md5sum is, like, totally, to verify your ISO, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto for Windows see http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[10:18] <LjL> chuckyp: his Ubuntu installation fails with an "Unable to find initrd-tools". i've seen that already with someone, and couldn't find out a solution. the problem is that now he cannot boot Windows, either (i guess grub has already been installed)
[10:18] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, but i cant even mail something out at all so i guess somethings really wrong
[10:18] <josep_> kde for Ubuntu?
[10:18] <josep_> some1 can help me?
[10:18] <HymnToLife> it seems your ISO get corrupted
[10:18] <josep_> i'm looking for that
[10:18] <LjL> mikebot: this will close your X at once. select No if you don't want that
[10:18] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, no you see your missing the point, you want a front end program that sits on a web server and talks to a data base - break it out and make life easy -you have a big blob of mush in your mind think about the job, google for dovecot squirrelmail and have a look in that space
[10:18] <iG-Shoot-Me> i tried to install grub but i got an erro
[10:18] <HymnToLife> either during the download
[10:18] <mikebot> LjL, what is X?
[10:18] <vook> josep_, whadda need to know?
[10:18] <soundray> kyevan: if you really delved into it, you could also configure an adjustment value for your fast clock.
[10:19] <HymnToLife> or duing the burning
[10:19] <LjL> mikebot: the thing that gives you windows on your screen
[10:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> so what do i do
[10:19] <kyevan> soundray: I have a root shell open right now. The time is off. I need to make it so that either my time stays right, or that sudo doesn't care if I last sudoed in the future
[10:19] <mikebot> LjL, ah, i rather like that
[10:19] <cppnewbie> mikebot: the DE you could say
[10:19] <josep_> i would like to know if exists a KDE for ubuntu
[10:19] <LjL> cppnewbie: no, not really
[10:19] <HymnToLife> iG-Shoot-Me> do you still have the iso file ?
[10:19] <cppnewbie> in a way
[10:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> '
[10:19] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, well you can always rescue your windows partition so don't freak out.  All you would need is a windows xp cd.  That or you can try to use the www.sysresccd.org cd.  For fixing your ubuntu load lets see.
[10:19] <LjL> cppnewbie: Gnome and KDE are DE's. X isn't
[10:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> HymnToLife
[10:19] <mikebot> LjL, this was probably not a good idea to do
[10:19] <mon> hi i changed some settings for gnome-panel in gconf-editor. appearantly the options are obsolete and the changes aren't used. any other way i can edit gnome-panel settings? (using Dapper)
[10:19] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, you can't mail cos you don't know what your trying to do, is the program even running (ps auwx | grep post) and then more questions, I think go read find out the name of some intresting programs and then check to see if they are in ubuntu,if not move along
[10:19] <soundray> kyevan: shall we do it step by step, then?
[10:19] <iG-Shoot-Me> HymnToLife, its on the computer which i cannot access..
[10:19] <cppnewbie> then whats X's part in DE? theres none?  Lets move to a private session though
[10:20] <vook> josep_, it does, apt-get install kde
[10:20] <ivan> I am a big time newbie and cannot get my palm device to work correctly.
[10:20] <mikebot> LjL, yeah, i treid to change that to gde, i thought i had
[10:20] <LjL> cppnewbie: X does the basic part of it all. it draws windows, and it drives your gfx card
[10:20] <vogel> now i got my ati card to work! weeee:D Tack you fore youre help!
[10:20] <mikebot> LjL, i keep getting errors while this thing uninstalls all this stuff
[10:20] <soundray> vogel: congrats
[10:20] <josep_> ok thank, im going to try
[10:20] <LjL> mikebot: what sort of errors?
[10:20] <benplaut> can someone in Dapper check to see if Blam is broken? it seems so to me, but i want to make sure
[10:20] <kyevan> soundray: hang on, I forgot to regester and stuff
[10:20] <vogel> Thank you!
[10:20] <mikebot> LjL, cannot load image ...
[10:20] <HymnToLife> well, either download a new iso and VERIFY it and burn it at LOW SPEED (4x max)
[10:20] <cppnewbie> so X does all the work while DE's offer the files and settings and so on?
[10:21] <vogel> Linux is fun!
[10:21] <soundray> kyevan: okay, pm me when you're ready.
[10:21] <HymnToLife> or get your hands on a Windows CD to restore the MBR
[10:21] <ivan> does anyone know how to configure a USB palm device with Evolution?
[10:21] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, try to boot using acpi=off
[10:21] <LjL> mikebot: dunno about that. anyway i think the packages being removed are strictly KDE packages, even though i could certainly have missed some
[10:21] <iG-Shoot-Me> chuckyp, how??
[10:21] <cppnewbie> vogel: i cant agree with you, all this Uber-protectiveness is getting on my nerves although its good for me :P
[10:21] <mikebot> LjL, hehe okay, thanks
[10:21] <vook> josep_, here's a tip, when in doubt type "apt-cache search %whatyouaresearchingfor", you may want to add a pipe and less at the end "apt-cache search kde | less"
[10:21] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, ok thanx i guess....
[10:21] <HymnToLife> chuckyp> the initrd install faile
[10:21] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, so when you get the prompt from the ubuntu install cd you would type "linux acpi=off"  then try your install again and see if you get the same initrd-tools error?
[10:21] <HymnToLife> there's no way he can boot
[10:22] <mikebot> LjL, is this completely removing kde, or will it leave like some kde stuff, and i wont be able to unistall it
[10:22] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, been trying to get this work all day so im a bit tired in my head :(
[10:22] <_epp> what is a good p2p client for linux that doesnt need java...
[10:22] <mikebot> LjL, like in windows when you install something and then you delete some files, and in the add/remove program thing you can't remove it because some files are mising
[10:22] <LjL> mikebot: you'll always be able to uninstall it. the only hard part might be *finding* it :)
[10:22] <cppnewbie> so how can i set my partition to not read only? :S
[10:22] <iG-Shoot-Me> instead of just hitting enter?
[10:22] <mikebot> LjL, haha okauy
[10:22] <HymnToLife> _epp> go to a music store and buy CDs :/
[10:22] <LjL> mikebot: anyway, i'm pretty sure that is going to uninstall most/all of KDE
[10:22] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, then it is time for a walk, let the info you have sink in do something different for half an hour, cant see the woods for the trees and come back fresh
[10:22] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, yeah ig but hold on a second.
[10:22] <mikebot> LjL, well either way, it cleaned up my internet folder,which is nice...now i gotta get nicotine working
[10:23] <LjL> mikebot: yeah but you aren't "deleting some files" now, you're actually using a correct uninstallation procedure
[10:23] <mikebot> LjL, oh okay
[10:23] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, yeah something like that i ment by i need a time for myself now :D
[10:23] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, you still here?
[10:23] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, yes
[10:23] <LjL> mikebot: you should never really just "delete some files" in ubuntu anyway. i've almost never seen a clear uninstallation fail
[10:23] <ITS_FOR_REAL> u wanna mess up my head even more? ;)
[10:23] <ompaul> ITS_FOR_REAL, go rest
[10:23] <LjL> s/clear/clean
[10:24] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, hhee
[10:24] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, im trying to
[10:24] <mikebot> LjL, okay
[10:24] <ITS_FOR_REAL> :D
[10:24] <ITS_FOR_REAL> ompaul, have fun cya or something
[10:24] <ompaul> go
[10:25] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, ahh it seems to be a problem with your media that you are installing from possibly.   Is there something I am not doing?
[10:26] <LjL> _epp: ktorrent, apollon, kmldonkey... or for gnome, i guess bittorrent-gui, giftoxik, amule
[10:27] <variant> can anyone tell me what packages i need for a working compile environment in ubuntu?
[10:27] <LjL> variant: build-essential
[10:27] <soundray> variant, build-essential
[10:27] <Munchkinguy> HymnToLife: I don't have /etc/Fstab
[10:27] <Seveas> !tell variant about compiling
[10:27] <variant> thanks, and what about the curses lib? i need to run menuconfig
[10:28] <_epp> LjL, what ones are on the guantilla network?
[10:28] <Seveas> variant, libncurses5-dev
[10:28] <soundray> Munchkinguy: you do. Just use lowercase letters
[10:28] <mikebot> LjL, help
[10:28] <mikebot> LjL, haha
[10:28] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, also make sure you date is set properly in th bios.  It appears that if its set too far back keyring wont install which is required by initrd-tools and you would get the error you are talking about.
[10:28] <HymnToLife> Munchkinguy> my mistake, it's /etc/fstab
[10:28] <variant> thanks guys!
[10:28] <matthias> nabend
[10:28] <lkz> Hi, where do i change the x server startup parameters ? I want to add -br so i dont get the grey screen just before login :-)
[10:28] <enyc> variant: you can use 'apt-get build-dep [package] ' to install the requirements-to-compile a package... can be useful when compiling 'something similar'
[10:28] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, so it could be either of those two date is way off in bios.  or cd is messed up and needs to be burned at a lower speed.  So easiest one to check is the date in bios.
[10:28] <matthias> ger. here?
[10:29] <soundray> Hey, matthias, klingt als wolltest du zu #ubuntu-de
[10:29] <Munchkinguy> Thank you, once more.
[10:29] <mattwestm> what would cause this error and how do I fix it?: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:29] <HymnToLife> lkz> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xsercer-xorg
[10:29] <virtualball2> Is there Make2fs on Ubuntu?
[10:29] <LjL> mikebot: what? =)
[10:29] <matthias> @soundray ja.
[10:29] <enyc> virtualball2: mke2fs ;-)
[10:29] <HymnToLife> mattwestm> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:29] <greywolf> hi folks -- i have a fresh hory install that i need to upgrade to breezy -- no apps installed other than the original packages -- i cant find the instructions on the website -- can someone point me in the right direction?
[10:29] <LjL> _epp: the gift ones are (i.e. apollo and giftoxic)
[10:29] <soundray> matthias: /join #ubuntu-de
[10:29] <virtualball2> enyc:  haha thanks!
[10:29] <HymnToLife> !tell greywolf about upgrade
[10:30] <mikebot> LjL, as for the nicotine installation, it says i need python 2.3 and gtk+ 2.2 and pygtk 1.99.16--can i get those via synaptic?
[10:30] <_epp> LjL, are they in APT?
[10:30] <Jimer> soundray, done
[10:30] <Seveas> !tell mattwestm about compiling
[10:30] <cppnewbie> so there isnt a way to unset the readonly attribute from a storage device? :S
[10:30] <LjL> _epp: but for something more comprehensive, "apt-cache search gnutella"
[10:30] <soundray> Jimer: and working?
[10:30] <Jimer> soundray, running init.d command thing
[10:30] <greywolf> HymnToLife: thank you very much
[10:30] <LjL> _epp: yes they are
[10:30] <Jimer> soundray, yay Images !
[10:30] <LjL> mikebot: yup
[10:30] <soundray> Jimer: beoootiful.
[10:30] <Jimer> soundray, and lots of options =)
[10:30] <iG-Shoot-Me> FIXED IT!
[10:30] <Jimer> soundray, many thanks.
[10:30] <variant> whats the name of the kernel package? ubuntu-kernel or somthing?
[10:30] <mikebot> ljl okay thanks
[10:31] <iG-Shoot-Me> For all of you and future reference.. Want to know how I fixed it?
[10:31] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, why are you excited?
[10:31] <Jimer> soundray, i rebooting to native mode, brb
[10:31] <_epp> LjL, i looked and i cant find them...
[10:31] <HymnToLife> tried to reinstall ?
[10:31] <_epp> LjL, mabey cuz im on a mac?
[10:31] <iG-Shoot-Me> You guys want to know how to fix it if YOU ever crash your computer like that?
[10:31] <iG-Shoot-Me> No
[10:31] <iG-Shoot-Me> What I did
[10:31] <Seveas> iG-Shoot-Me, how did you crash it?
[10:31] <LjL> !tell _epp about repos
[10:31] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, yes how did you fix it?
[10:31] <LjL> _epp: i think you don't have Universe enabled
[10:31] <iG-Shoot-Me> Was when I got to the partition disks thign
[10:32] <HymnToLife> Seveas> his intall faile, bad CD obviously
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> One of htem had a lightning bolt next to it
[10:32] <LjL> mikebot: i think you should get python-gtk2
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> It was like booting from the wrong partition
[10:32] <HymnToLife> meaning it was being formatted if I remeber well
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> I set the lightning bolt on the first partition, the one it was originally on, and i exited the installation
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> And I booted from hard drive
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> and it worked!
[10:32] <variant> nm, i found it thanks
[10:32] <mikebot> LjL, in addition to those other 3?
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> :) :)
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> So there you go
[10:32] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, lmao
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> :D
[10:32] <HymnToLife> oh no, meaning it was bootable
[10:32] <iG-Shoot-Me> lol
[10:33] <_epp> LjL, yeah i do...
[10:33] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, have you tried booting to windows yet?
[10:33] <iG-Shoot-Me> I just did
[10:33] <cppnewbie> rofl
[10:33] <iG-Shoot-Me> Im booted on windows lol
[10:33] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, I thought you problem was during the install.
[10:33] <iG-Shoot-Me> It was!
[10:33] <cppnewbie> lol
[10:33] <LjL> mikebot: no, i think it will install the other three
[10:33] <iG-Shoot-Me> But I decided to try it again
[10:33] <chuckyp> iG-Shoot-Me, no it wasn't you problem was during boot if you are able to boot now. to nix.
[10:33] <mikebot> LjL, oh okay, let's see
[10:33] <LjL> mikebot: after all, it's gtk for python. so i assume it will install gtk and python ;)
[10:33] <iG-Shoot-Me> Yes it was
[10:33] <iG-Shoot-Me> It was booting from the wrong partition
[10:33] <ruzgar> is there a program like daemon 32(for making fake cds from isos) in ubuntu?
[10:33] <iG-Shoot-Me> Brb guys, im ging on the other coputer
[10:34] <mikebot> LjL, hehe okay
[10:34] <LjL> _epp: and "apt-cache show apollon" for example doesn't show anything?
[10:34] <HymnToLife> didn't you install to the MBR ?
[10:34] <globe> how do I set up my laptop so that I dont have to restart to use my pcmcia wireless?
[10:34] <soundray> HymnToLife: clearly not ;)
[10:34] <HymnToLife> ruzgar> no need for anything
[10:34] <cppnewbie> any way to set a partition read write? :S
[10:34] <HymnToLife> linux does it natively
[10:34] <LjL> cppnewbie: not an NTFS partition
[10:35] <soundray> globe: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/pcmcia restart'
[10:35] <cppnewbie> not really an ntfs partition
[10:35] <ruzgar> HymnToLife i dont understand
[10:35] <ruzgar> how can i make
[10:35] <globe> soundray: does that rescan the pcmcia bus?
[10:35] <ruzgar> double click on them
[10:35] <mikebot> LjL, i alreayd have python-gtk2
[10:35] <LjL> cppnewbie: then it ought to be mounted read/write by default, most of the time
[10:35] <HymnToLife> ruzgar> sudo mount /pah/to/your/file.iso /mount/point
[10:35] <cppnewbie> how do i remove the read-only attribute on the partition? :S
[10:35] <LjL> cppnewbie: though only root might have write access
[10:35] <ruzgar> ohh really ?
[10:35] <diogo> Greetings! What if I want to upgrade only the XFree-related  packages from Breezy to Dapper just to check if DRI support for my chip has been added?!
[10:35] <nekohayo> does anyone know how to reset the gnome menus? I'd like to clean up what I did with smeg / alacarte
[10:35] <ruzgar> that is very good
[10:35] <cppnewbie> ah i didnt think of that
[10:35] <ruzgar> thanks a lot
[10:35] <_epp> LjL, yeah...  i though it was apollo, not apollon. But i still cant find giftoxic
[10:36] <LjL> cppnewbie: hmm i don't think chmod will work with that, i think you should pass "-o rw" or something while mounting
[10:36] <LjL> !tell cppnewbie about ntfs
[10:36] <soundray> globe: it used to, but it might have changed. The other thing you can try is '/etc/init.d/hotplug restart'
[10:36] <globe> soundray: thanks
[10:36] <LjL> cppnewbie: i've understood it's not ntfs, but that howto does show some mount parameters that might be of help
[10:37] <LjL> _epp: it's there. and the spelling is the one you used right now, i.e. "giftoxic", one t
[10:37] <soundray> diogo: don't do that, it'll be more trouble than upgrading everything.
[10:37] <soundray> diogo: and you won't be able to go back, except from backup.
[10:38] <cppnewbie> how do i UNMOUNT whats in mnt now? :S
[10:38] <saif> hello, i was told to do this: "You also need to make the additional step of adding bcml43xx to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist so that the driver isn't autmatically added into the kernel at boot."
[10:38] <soundray> cppnewbie: 'sudo umount /mnt/*'
[10:38] <saif> but how do i do it?
[10:38] <mgpalmer> Ive got a question...Ive got an apache server installed and want to use ddclient to update dyndns with my ip, which works fine. i also can run ddclient as a daemon, BUT the thing is i want the ddclient daemon to start automatically when my system boots so i cant forget it. how would i go about this ?
[10:38] <diogo> soundray: Tks. I really wouldn't like to do that, then. What else could I do to get a newer XFree or at least support for 3D accel on my chip?
[10:39] <LjL> _epp: note that giFT is not gnutella-only. it's a library based on plugins, which can support various networks (including gnutella). giftoxic is a frontend, i think you'll also have to install libgnutella-gift if it's not there by default
[10:39] <soundray> saif: have you edited a file before?
[10:39] <vogel> how do I do to get Shockwave?
[10:39] <m_0_r_0_n> Hi, althought I ve enabled the multiverse repository, apt can t find java-package. Any idea what to do next?
[10:39] <LjL> _epp: an apt-cache search tells me that you could also try gtk-gnutella
[10:39] <dle> Hi. I just swapped in an SB-Live for my soundcard. What do I need to do to reconfig. the sound system to use it?
[10:39] <cppnewbie> umount: directory/file : not mounted <-- wtf
[10:39] <soundray> vogel: convince Macromedia (now part of Adobe) to support it.
[10:39] <me2win>  m_0_r_0_n did you apt-get update??
[10:39] <sirtode> Hey, can anyone tell me how to get something called "build"?
[10:40] <nekohayo> m_0_r_0_n: you're maybe looking for j2re something or jre ?
[10:40] <tritium> sirtode: you ben build-essential?
[10:40] <HymnToLife> cppnewbie> sudo umout /dev/sdaX
[10:40] <ice-thc> gn8
[10:40] <saif> soundray, what do u mean edited?? like gedit a file?! what dile?
[10:40] <me2win> sirtode, build-essential
[10:40] <HymnToLife> umount
[10:40] <tritium> s/ben/mean ;)
[10:40] <sirtode> ok, I'll check that out, thanks
[10:40] <LjL> mikebot: hold on a second, why is it *asking* you for those packages? "sudo aptitude install nicotine" should *automatically* get any packages it needs
[10:40] <cppnewbie> not an sda, its an iso i mounted on /mnt/
[10:40] <vogel> Hmm, boring!
[10:40] <me2win> !build-essential
[10:40] <m_0_r_0_n> me2win, yes I did
[10:40] <ubotu> hmm... build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[10:40] <HymnToLife> on /mnt/ ??
[10:40] <soundray> diogo: what's your graphics card?
[10:40] <cppnewbie> ya
[10:40] <nekohayo> does anyone know how to reset the gnome menus? I'd like to clean up what I did with smeg / alacarte
[10:41] <soundray> saif: yes, like open a file in gedit
[10:41] <m_0_r_0_n> I am reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=AddingJavaSupport to install Sun Java
[10:41] <funkyHat> dle, system > preferences > sounds, choose the soundcard there
[10:41] <mikebot> LjL, i didn't try typing you that...i was looking at their website
[10:41] <diogo> soundray: $ lspci | grep VGA
[10:41] <diogo> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]
[10:41] <dle> funkyHat: That sounds refreshingly simple.  Let me try that. :)
[10:41] <Jimmer> soundray, now Gnome wont start
[10:41] <saif> soundray, yes, i found it! :) i just need to add the line blacklist bcml43xx to the file?
[10:41] <Jimmer> * Starting Gnome Display Manager ...  Please use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or the channel #flood to paste large amount of text.
[10:42] <cppnewbie> ugh my head... all these parameters and this hassle.... seems like i shouldve stayed on windows lol :P although linux offers increased capability now i cant understand stuff thats fundamental :'( so i cant umount /mnt/ why is that? :S
[10:43] <me2win> cppnewbie, did you mount something on /mnt?
[10:43] <ompaul> cppnewbie, sudo umount
[10:43] <cppnewbie> yea me2win
[10:43] <cppnewbie> but now it says device busy or something and im not using it anywhere
[10:43] <me2win> you probably mounted something on /mnt/something
[10:43] <me2win> but not /mnt
[10:43] <soundray> Jimmer, 2 min...
[10:43] <mgpalmer> heh cppnewbie, i feel like you...just think of linux not as an OS but a puzzle game
[10:44] <mikebot> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9771
[10:44] <Jimmer> soundray, Ok
[10:44] <variant> i /redraw
[10:44] <cppnewbie> not really, when i cd to mnt theres the thing i mounted w00t :D
[10:44] <djm62> cd ..
[10:44] <HymnToLife> cppnewbie> What if you unse it on your ISO file ?
[10:44] <mikebot> LjL, oh, i had synaptic open
[10:44] <variant> i installed all the build-essential packages etc but i get an error running make menuconfig
[10:44] <variant> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[10:44] <cppnewbie> never tried
[10:44] <stian> How do I go about to install this app? http://everythinglinux.org/TkApache/ (newbie)
[10:44] <variant> anyone know whats causing that? surely build-essential contains gcc?
[10:44] <HymnToLife> variant> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[10:45] <cppnewbie> ah got it
[10:45] <mgpalmer> is there an extra channel for beginner's questions ?
[10:45] <cppnewbie> it was simply sudo umount /mnt/ lol :D
[10:45] <LjL> mikebot: have no worries, the package from the repository will install and it will install the required python and gtk stuff. just tried
[10:45] <Coag> variant: it doesn't contain gcc-3.4 though
[10:45] <Coag> it contains gcc-4 last I checked
[10:45] <variant> HymnToLife: thanks, Coag too
[10:45] <HymnToLife> variant> it contains another version of gcc
[10:45] <variant> ok thanks
[10:45] <stian> does anyone have a program that i can monitor connections on my apache server with?
[10:45] <variant> great its working now thankyou
[10:45] <mikebot> LjL, haha, when i opened it i got: Failed to load image keditbookmarks.xpm
[10:45] <mikebot> Details: Icon not found
[10:46] <tatters> webalizer?
[10:46] <chuckyp> stian, webalizer
[10:46] <LjL> mikebot: uh, that looks suspiciously like a KDE file... though i have no clue why nicotine (which is not even a KDE program) would bother with it. hold on
[10:47] <diogo> Meanwhile, how do I 'correctly' upgrade from Breezy to Dapper using a CD for example? Do I apt-cdrom and then 'aptitude upgrade' or 'aptitude dist-upgrade'?
[10:47] <mgpalmer> Question: If my question isn't answered, is it considered rude to re-post it in reasonable intervals ?
[10:47] <chuckyp> LjL, kde programs should work in gnome and vice versa
[10:47] <stian> webalizer... i was thinking of something monitoring live
[10:47] <LjL> mikebot: that file belongs to Konqueror. why nicotine would care about Konqueror is beyond me
[10:47] <stian> not something that generates stats
[10:47] <LjL> chuckyp: yeah, that's not the point though
[10:47] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, what is your question?
[10:47] <mgpalmer> Ive got a question...Ive got an apache server installed and want to use ddclient to update dyndns with my ip, which works fine. i also can run ddclient as a daemon, BUT the thing is i want the ddclient daemon to start automatically when my system boots so i cant forget it. how would i go about this ?
[10:47] <variant> mgpalmer: try rephrasing it a lot though :)
[10:47] <HymnToLife> LjL> obviously it does
[10:48] <LjL> HymnToLife: if it really does, then that package is broken.
[10:48] <mgpalmer> im shure there are several methods
[10:48] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, are you talking about dhclient?
[10:48] <ruzgar> how can i close a man page in console
[10:48] <mikebot> LjL, haha okay, that's fine
[10:48] <mgpalmer> no, its called ddclient
[10:48] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, nm i'm retarded
[10:48] <mikebot> LjL, did you install it?
[10:48] <HymnToLife> well, why would it want to install KDE stuff otherwise ?
[10:48] <tolkan> ruzgar-=: q will close it
[10:48] <LjL> mikebot: yes, and it runs
[10:48] <sirtode> ok, so build-essential is actually installed, but this thing apparently wants an executable called build, which doesn't exist.
[10:48] <LjL> HymnToLife: it doesn't
[10:48] <ruzgar> ok thanks
[10:48] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, well there are several ways you can do it.  Is ddclient a daemon?
[10:48] <variant> sirtode: what are you trying to do?
[10:48] <mikebot> LjL, were you able to connect to a server?
[10:48] <tatters> what is it you want to moniotor exactly?
[10:49] <sirtode> trying to do a make on a driver for my mouse
[10:49] <HymnToLife> 10 seconds ago you were saying it does:/
[10:49] <soundray> diogo: for dapper, it's best to get advice in #ubuntu+1 . About your graphics card -- sorry, I can't find any indication of 3D support having been added in dapper.
[10:49] <variant> sirtode: its probably looking for the /build/ directory.. try compiling your kernel once and that shoud create it
[10:49] <LjL> HymnToLife: it doesn't try to install anything KDE, but apparently it fails to start complaining about a "keditbookmark.xpm" file, which i've found to belong to Konqueror
[10:49] <LjL> mikebot: haven't tried
[10:49] <variant> sirtode: thats exactly what the problem is then
[10:49] <HymnToLife> blah
[10:49] <cppnewbie> LjL in that mswindows partition stuff it only says stuff about fat16|32 , ntfs and apple partitions. no fat alone
[10:49] <mikebot> LjL, okay
[10:49] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, ?
[10:49] <HymnToLife> it's just an icon file
[10:49] <sirtode> ahh, k, thanks
[10:49] <mgpalmer> chukyp: im not exactly shure what that is, but it has an paramater -daemon, and when i use it thataway, it stays as a process(?)
[10:49] <soundray> Jimmer, can you log in on a text console?
[10:49] <ruzgar> HymnToLife what is type of .iso file
[10:49] <variant> sirtode: install the kernel package and make oldconfig && make
[10:49] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, k
[10:49] <LjL> mikebot, HymnToLife: by the way, while i do have that file installed myself, it doesn't appear like nicotine is trying to load it here
[10:49] <Jimmer> soundray, yes
[10:49] <ruzgar> mount need a type
[10:50] <sirtode> is there a good howto on doing that? I'm not proficient with this.
[10:50] <greeceis> Hi all,
[10:50] <LjL> mikebot: have you restarted X since you uninstalled KDE?
[10:50] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, well when you are launching it to update your dyndns how are you launching it?
[10:50] <Jimmer> soundray, xserver is disabled and the im shot back to breezy
[10:50] <LjL> mikebot: perhaps you should.
[10:50] <greeceis> got a question
[10:50] <soundray> Jimmer, and what does it say when you run X (capital again)?
[10:50] <HymnToLife> ruzgar> type ? you mean the FS type ?
[10:50] <mikebot> LjL, no
[10:50] <variant> sirtode: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build is that the error you get?
[10:50] <mikebot> LjL, okay, how do i do that? ctrl+alt+backspace?
[10:50] <HymnToLife> it's iso9660 but normally you won't need to specify it
[10:50] <LjL> mikebot: yeah
[10:50] <variant> sirtode: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCompileHowto?highlight=%28kernel%29
[10:50] <stian> how do i monitor my apache server and the connections on it "live"?
[10:50] <mikebot> LjL, and if i only et a command prompt, how can i get back to gnome?
[10:50] <greeceis> I forgot how to change my config files on a HD once I have booted from a CD.
[10:50] <globe_> soundray: if I put a wireless card in and then restart pcmcia  will the device mount to an eth port?
[10:50] <ruzgar> i dont understand i'll enter the code correctly
[10:50] <Jimmer> soundray, X server is now disabled. Run GDM when its configured proberly
[10:50] <mikebot> LjL, last time i was stuck in command prompts, i had to reinstall
[10:50] <sirtode> yep
[10:51] <greeceis> You see I can't see the HD when I boot by CD.
[10:51] <LjL> mikebot: hmm hold on a second
[10:51] <ruzgar> but i doesnt works
[10:51] <mgpalmer> chuckyp: with ./ddclient , the parameters are in a conf file...its supposed to auto check the ip every 5 mins, but i cant check that
[10:51] <LjL> mikebot: try "apt-cache policy gdm", does it say it's installed?
[10:51] <cppnewbie> how is fat filesystem called in linux? vfat or vfat is another thing? :S
[10:51] <HymnToLife> ruzgar> error message ?
[10:51] <LjL> cppnewbie: vfat
[10:51] <cppnewbie> aha
[10:51] <sirtode> thanks mang
[10:51] <stian> yo?
[10:51] <mikebot> LjL, apt-cache policy gdm
[10:51] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, well if you start it that way try doing this to see if its still running "ps aux | grep ddclient
[10:51] <mikebot> yikes
[10:51] <soundray> globe_, that depends on the driver. It can be ethX or something else. Find out with ifconfig -a
[10:51] <LjL> mikebot: ?
[10:51] <mikebot> LjL, Installed: <IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu1
[10:51] <LjL> mikebot: ok
[10:52] <mikebot> LjL, ctrlaltbackspace?
[10:52] <mgpalmer> it is, i checked that, the only trouble is that it doesnt start with a system boot
[10:52] <LjL> mikebot: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm", and make sure it's selected as default
[10:52] <soundray> Jimmer: I mean, run 'X' again.
[10:52] <HymnToLife> mikebot> what if you run gdm then ?
[10:52] <Jimmer> soundray, thats whta i did
[10:52] <cppnewbie> --->/media/sdc1 is not a block device <--- what does this mean? :S
[10:52] <globe_> soundray: yea...after restarting pcmcia and/or hotplug, the only device listed in ifconfig is loopback
[10:52] <mikebot> HymnToLife, sorry?
[10:52] <MisterN> n8
[10:52] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, okay well find the directory that its installed to where you go to type ./ddclient then you would just add it to rc.local
[10:52] <LjL> mikebot: and, no, no ctrl+alt+backspace. i don't think that would be good given you changed display manager
[10:52] <Jimmer> soundray, X server is now disabled. Run GDM when its configured proberly
[10:52] <soundray> globe_, ifconfig *-a*
[10:52] <ruzgar> HymnToLife i solve the problem
[10:52] <mikebot> LjL, okay..it says this..i don't know if it's default...
[10:52] <mgpalmer> and where do i find this rc.local ?
[10:52] <sad_> cppnewbie: i think you should use /dev/sdc1
[10:52] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, like "echo /usr/local/bin/ddclient > rc.local
[10:52] <ruzgar> it want -o paramet
[10:53] <cppnewbie> aha
[10:53] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, okay hold up
[10:53] <greeceis> How can I find my HD from a bootable CD?
[10:53] <mikebot> LjL, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9772
[10:53] <mgpalmer> also, what does it do ? itd like to understand what im doing
[10:53] <HymnToLife> greeceis> > mount it...
[10:53] <Jimmer> soundray, Fatal Error /n No screens found
[10:53] <HymnToLife> sudo fdisk -l to get the partition name
[10:53] <greeceis> mount it how?
[10:53] <LjL> mikebot: hmm do this -- but wait before doing it
[10:53] <HymnToLife> and then mount ot mount it
[10:53] <LjL> mikebot: type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop". X should shut down. you will be in a text terminal. login there, and type "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[10:54] <soundray> Jimmer: please run 'tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log'. Any sensible error messages there.
[10:54] <soundray> ?
[10:54] <LjL> mikebot: *if that does not work*, type again "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and select it as default.
[10:54] <globe_> soundray: yea....
[10:54] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, rc.local executes whatever you put in it after all system processes are loaded on boot.
[10:54] <greeceis> hold on
[10:54] <stian> how do i monitor my apache server and the connections on it "live"
[10:54] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, the echo command just writes to the laste line of the file.
[10:54] <mgpalmer> ah, kinda like the autostart folder on windows
[10:54] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, yes
[10:54] <LjL> mikebot: if you still can't load X (which shouldn't really happen), you can type "irssi", then "/server irc.freenode.org", then "/join #ubuntu", and you will be back here
[10:54] <mikebot> LjL, yikes i gotta write all this down
[10:54] <Jimmer> soundray, (EE): No devices attached
[10:54] <XiCillin> is there some line in perl that will let me tar -xzvf ever .tar.gz archive in a directory?
[10:54] <XiCillin> every*
[10:54] <LjL> mikebot: yeah probably. or, even --
[10:55] <Jimmer> soundray, i dont know if it matters, but i put added a new gfx since..
[10:55] <tatters> stian: iweblizer is live enough surely, if you google around youll find lots of applications for your siteyou can get a little bell go off when someone connects and see in real time where they go what they do  buts it case of scouring for free web apps theres tons off them    not linus specific but web specific
[10:55] <LjL> mikebot: press ctrl+alt+f1 now. that will get you to a terminal (you can use alt+f7 to get back here). type "irssi" and what follows right now, so you see that you can connect to here from a terminal
[10:55] <cppnewbie> is vfat a readonly filesystem? :S
[10:55] <LjL> cppnewbie: no
[10:55] <soundray> Jimmer: that is indeed a showstopper.
[10:55] <lwelyn> somebody know how i can minimize a graphical pplication? ( ut2004 for example )
[10:55] <chuckyp> cppnewbie, no only if you tell it to be
[10:55] <variant> cppnewbie: no
[10:56] <Jimmer> soundray, oh is changing/adding hardware bad ?
[10:56] <cppnewbie> i didnt tell it to be, how can i... "untell" it? :S :p
[10:56] <mgpalmer> chuckyp: i did a find on rc.local and there seems to be no such file...
[10:56] <HymnToLife> chuckyp> wrong
[10:56] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, /etc/rc.d/rc.local
[10:56] <mikebot> LjL, okay, one sec
[10:56] <HymnToLife> if you une the default parameters, it's read only
[10:56] <HymnToLife> and only by root
[10:56] <soundray> Jimmer: well, you can't expect the configuration that the installer makes for one card to work on another just like that.
[10:56] <Jimmer> plug n play :( ?
[10:56] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, errr not right hold up
[10:57] <cppnewbie> so how can i mount it as not read only? thats my prob
[10:57] <danc3> cppnewbie: man mount
[10:57] <me2win> cppnewbie, hold while i get you the page
[10:57] <Jimmer> soundray, how do we tell the configuration =) ?
[10:57] <soundray> Jimmer: has nothing to do with graphics cards.
[10:57] <Jimmer> soundray, oh ?
[10:57] <HymnToLife> !tell cppnewbie about ntfs
[10:57] <HymnToLife> it's in here for ft too
[10:57] <homosapian> thanks for what everyone is doing..... ubuntu rocks
[10:57] <HymnToLife> fat*
[10:57] <me2win> cppnewbie, http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[10:57] <cppnewbie> *cough cough* hymntolife i never saw anything like that in there
[10:57] <HymnToLife> !ubuntuguide
[10:57] <diogo> soundray: thanks anyway man! So... What would you do if you just needed 3D accel support for a card that's still not supported in breezy but you know it's supported on the latest Xfree code?
[10:57] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[10:58] <LjL> !ubuntuguide
[10:58] <soundray> Jimmer, run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and answer the questions as well as you can.
[10:58] <XiCillin> i would you tar -xzvf every .tar.gz archive in a directory at once>?
[10:58] <LjL> ops
[10:58] <HymnToLife> owned LjL :p
[10:58] <michael__> LjL: beautiful
[10:58] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, do you have /etc/init.d/rc.local?
[10:58] <variant> XiCillin: tar -xzvf *.tar.gz
[10:58] <ompaul> LjL, sup?
[10:58] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, i'm not in ubuntu right now and i'm not sure how they are doing it.
[10:58] <diogo> soundray: sorry for these many questions, but i'm in trouble... i MUST get my wife's favorite game running on our PC or i'll have to install M$ Window$ here... :o/
[10:58] <XiCillin> variant, doesn't work for some reason
[10:58] <cppnewbie> where would i put user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0 if i used the mount command ? :S
[10:58] <LjL> HymnToLife: i try to refrain from re-requesting other people's factoids, but this time i just didn't notice
[10:58] <Jimmer> soundray, its asking for drivers
[10:58] <variant> XiCillin: works here
[10:59] <sad_> diogo: which game is that?
[10:59] <michael__> LjL: okay, so now should i get back to the windows and do all that terminal kdm stop stuff?
[10:59] <tritium> cppnewbie: /etc/fstab
[10:59] <HymnToLife> haha, np ;)
[10:59] <LjL> ompaul: nothing, i just requested a factoid that HymnToLife requested one second before :)
[10:59] <LjL> michael__: you're from irssi now?
[10:59] <soundray> Jimmer: muddle your way through, or rerun the install CD.
[10:59] <mgpalmer> chuckyp: no there isnt
[10:59] <Jimmer> soundray, i have nVidia GeForce 4MX
[10:59] <michael__> LjL: yeah, but i only did the ctrlaltf7 thing, i didn't restart anything yet
[10:59] <Jimmer> soundray, it gives me the option for nVidia... but thats it
[10:59] <XiCillin> i get 'tar: twilite.tar.gz: not found in archive for everything
[10:59] <yuri_> hello, does anyone know a prog that will bruteforce a .rar archive for linux?
[10:59] <cppnewbie> tritium its not listed in there
[10:59] <soundray> Jimmer: search the wiki.
[10:59] <mgpalmer> chuckyp: I DO have some folders in /etc called rc0d - rc6.d
[10:59] <chuckyp> LjL, how is ubuntu using rc.local where is it at basically. I'm not in ubuntu and mgpalmer needs to know where it is at.
[10:59] <soundray> !nvidia
[10:59] <LjL> michael__: just press alt+f2, you'll be in another terminal. type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop ; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start" there
[10:59] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:00] <tritium> cppnewbie: which?  the partition you're trying to mount?
[11:00] <LjL> michael__: alt+f1 will get you back to irssi
[11:00] <michael__> LjL: okay, brb
[11:00] <cppnewbie> ya
[11:00] <ompaul> LjL,  can you use a two letter >o< in that case, I thought there was a problem :-)
[11:00] <LjL> ompaul: oh... sorry
[11:00] <tritium> LjL: or, simply "sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart"
[11:00] <HymnToLife> what annoys me on cppnewbie's thing
[11:00] <ompaul> LjL, your okay I am tired :-) np
[11:01] <LjL> tritium: he doesn't have kdm anymore :)
[11:01] <HymnToLife> is that USB drives were always automatically mounted for me
[11:01] <mrproper> Is there a tutorial on how to setup a printer using Samba (client, not server).
[11:01] <LjL> tritium: (not that it sounds so much simpler to me anyway ;)
[11:01] <soundray> diogo: I reckon setting up xfree86 in dapper is very difficult. But if xfree supports it, xorg will, too, soon.
[11:01] <Jimmer> soundray, pci:2:0:0 ?
[11:01] <michael__> LjL: shit, it had a menu with a [yes]  and [no]  thing, but i altf1'd out of it
[11:01] <LjL> michael__: err... what had what? sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm had that?
[11:01] <tritium> LjL: oh, didn't catch the small change of display manager there :)
[11:01] <ompaul> michael__, language please
[11:01] <cppnewbie> well hymntolife join the club. they automount in here as well but i cant write to them
[11:01] <michael__> ompaul: sorry
[11:01] <ompaul> k
[11:01] <michael__> LjL: when i did the gdm start, it opened the config thing and said yes/no
[11:02] <tritium> michael__: language, please
[11:02] <michael__> LjL: but right when it popped up i alt+f1'd
[11:02] <Madpilot> hi all
[11:02] <LjL> michael__: what exactly did it ask? (you should be able to check again with alt+f2)
[11:02] <HymnToLife> do you have a line about the drive in your /etc/Fstab ?
[11:02] <michael__> tritium: alright
[11:02] <microhard> how tp upgrade to ff 1.5?
[11:02] <LjL> !tell microhard about ff1.5
[11:02] <ompaul> Madpilot, hi
[11:02] <michael__> LjL: no, alt+f2 goes back to a terminal, and i can't run the gdm start thing again because i guess it's already running
[11:02] <soundray> Jimmer: the clean thing to do is install ubuntu again with that new card, and read the wiki links on nvidia.
[11:02] <cppnewbie> no hymntolife nothing about it is in
[11:03] <LjL> michael__: what about ctrl+alt+f7? do you have X running there?
[11:03] <michael__> LjL: yeah, f7 goes back to the windows
[11:03] <HymnToLife> that's friggin weird
[11:03] <mgpalmer> A simple question: "sudo command" is supposed to run command as root right ? but when i do this, it asks for my root password (that seems reasonable) but doesnt accept my actual root PW
[11:03] <LjL> michael__: so nothing has been stopped yet i guess
[11:03] <djp> anyone know why when ubuntu boots, it says found alsa card 0 and found alsa card 1?
[11:03] <soundray> mgpalmer: no, it asks for your user password.
[11:03] <michael__> LjL: i'm going to stop gdm and then start it again
[11:03] <LjL> michael__: ok try again "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" and look carefully what it says
[11:03] <sad_> mgpalmer: it's your users password
[11:03] <michael__> LjL: alright, brb
[11:03] <LjL> michael__: i think you currently have *kdm* running, not gdm
[11:04] <microhard> igged his ass
[11:04] <microhard> gnome
[11:04] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, there is update-rc.d but not quite sure if thats what we are looking for.
[11:04] <michael__> ljlbut it looks like gdmLjL: ghehe okay, well
[11:04] <LjL> michael__: uh, what looks like gdm?
[11:04] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, don't know how well it will handle ddclient but you could give it a try.
[11:04] <Jimmer> soundray, done
[11:04] <mgpalmer> chuckyp: ill look into that and come back
[11:04] <michael__> LjL: the windows and stuff...it is the brown theme with the applications and system and places menus
[11:04] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, "update-rc.d <pathto>/ddclient" substitute the pathto
[11:04] <Jimmer> soundray, X now works
[11:05] <Jimmer> soundray, xstart = command not found (though)
[11:05] <michael__> LjL: and my right click doesn't have like 1,000 options
[11:05] <LjL> michael__: that's Gnome, not GDM
[11:05] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, and if you want to remove it update-rc.d <pathto>/ddclient remove
[11:05] <nickrud> chuckyp: no, that's not right
[11:05] <soundray> Jimmer: that's because there is no command "xstart"
[11:05] <michael__> LjL: ah okay, it thought they were the same thing
[11:05] <_epp> apollon and giFToxic wont connect to the net....
[11:05] <LjL> michael__: so you were actually still using KDE before?
[11:05] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, okay thats not right then.
[11:05] <michael__> LjL: i tried kde for a little
[11:05] <microhard> i love kde
[11:05] <chuckyp> nickrud, okay where the hell is rc.local in ubuntu?
[11:05] <LjL> michael__: yeah but i mean "before" as in "five minutes ago"
[11:05] <michael__> LjL: i don't follow that question
[11:05] <michael__> LjL: i was not running kde today
[11:06] <Jimmer> soundray, startx :P
[11:06] <chuckyp> nickrud, or similiar way for him to launch ddclient on boot?
[11:06] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, you still there.
[11:06] <Jimmer> soundray, that command appears to have worked
[11:06] <_epp> LjL, have you actually used giFZToxic and apollon?
[11:06] <mgpalmer> ya
[11:06] <nickrud> chuckyp: update-rc.d controls init scripts; it's used to create links in /etc/rc[0-6] .d from /etc/init.d
[11:06] <LjL> michael__: well you're saying brown theme, system and places etc... so i assumed you were used to seeing something different
[11:06] <microhard> kde is bit better then gnome
[11:06] <funkyHat> How can I use john to crack a single md5 encoded password (that isn't from passwd or shadow)?
[11:06] <LjL> _epp: only apollon, as i'm a KDE user
[11:06] <sad_> microhard: each his own
[11:06] <michael__> LjL: well i've seen kde before, it's blue default, right?
[11:06] <LjL> _epp: and yes it does connect
[11:06] <johnmournahan> can someone help setting up tv card
[11:06] <mgpalmer> k, you got me a bit confused now
[11:06] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, yeah it would need to be in init.d nevermind let me keep hunting for a way to do it.
[11:06] <djp> anyone know why, when i boot, it appears that 2 soundcards are loaded? it reports... found alsa 0 AND found alsa 1? is that normal?
[11:06] <LjL> michael__: yeah. anyway. let's do it all again
[11:06] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, the problem is i'm not in ubuntu right now.
[11:06] <microhard> same here except no kde with 5.10
[11:06] <michael__> LjL: haha okay
[11:06] <_epp> LjL, i installed gift... but it doesnt connect..
[11:06] <soundray> djp: if you have two soundcards, yes.
[11:07] <tritium> djp: do you have an onboard sound chip, as well as a sound card?
[11:07] <johnmournahan> how do u install a tv card
[11:07] <LjL> michael__: "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop", and "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop". do both
[11:07] <nickrud> mgpalmer: a moment, I've done that
[11:07] <mgpalmer> well init.d seems to kinda an autostart folder, my apache has its start script there too and it starts fine on boot
[11:07] <michael__> LjL: should i just go stop both kdm and gdm, then start gdm?
[11:07] <michael__> LjL: okay
[11:07] <LjL> _epp: have you installed libgnutella-gift too?
[11:07] <Jimmer> soundray, Starting GNOME Display Manager ... [ FAILED ]
[11:07] <LjL> michael__: after you've stopped them, check with alt+f7 that nothing is running
[11:07] <mgpalmer> i think there is also an ddclient script in init.d but that seems to do nothing
[11:07] <nickrud> mgpalmer: exactly, that's how linux controls main startup stuff.
[11:07] <djp> soundray, i do have 2 soundcards, but the soundcard built into my motherboard is disabled in my bios... would it still be reported on boot even if disabled?
[11:07] <funkyHat> djp, if you have an onboard soundcard, or a webcam with a microphone
[11:08] <HymnToLife> off to bed, good night people :)
[11:08] <tritium> djp: not if it's disabled, no
[11:08] <ketchup> hello ubuntu people!
[11:08] <ompaul> night
[11:08] <_epp> LjL, yes...
[11:08] <michael__> LjL: okay, stopped both, but when i do alt+f7 is till see windows...
[11:08] <soundray> djp: yes, if your BIOS makes a poor job of disabling it.
[11:08] <microhard> dual sound here
[11:08] <djp> funkyHat, ah... thanks! i have just installed a webcam with a mic, that would be that then! cheers
[11:08] <chuckyp> nickrud, don't they use a similiar rc.local file for startup of user stuff after all processes have been loaded?
[11:08] <LjL> michael__: uh... do you just see them, or can you actually use the desktop?
[11:08] <LjL> michael__: (that's weird)
[11:08] <ketchup> new to ubuntu world!
[11:08] <_epp> LjL, it says its connected  but it finds nothing.
[11:08] <tritium> welcome, ketchup
[11:08] <variant> tritium: depends on the bios.. you can disable the hard disk in some bios and still see it with a live cd
[11:08] <ketchup> thx tritium
[11:09] <tritium> variant: true enough...
[11:09] <michael__> LjL: well i'm using xddm or whatever that mp3 player is called, and i can still here msuic
[11:09] <LjL> _epp: tried searching something very obviously common?
[11:09] <michael__> LjL: and i just closed the irc chat client in it, so yeah, i can use it
[11:09] <LjL> michael__: duh...
[11:09] <nickrud> chuckyp: no. There's /etc/rcS.d/bootmisc.sh you can invoke things from. mgpalmer what you're tring to do is get ddclient to update your ip automatically, right?
[11:09] <mgpalmer> back to the sudo thing: when i start something with it and then giove my username password, it just does nothing
[11:09] <ketchup> lol
[11:09] <mgpalmer> nickrud: no
[11:09] <chuckyp> nickrud, no he's trying to get it just to launch on boot
[11:09] <mgpalmer> nickrud: im trying to get the ddclient daemon to start on system boot
[11:09] <variant> mgpalmer: type sudo su (it ask for password not username)
[11:09] <_epp> Ljl, is porn a good key to search for.. lol
[11:09] <LjL> michael__: we can't kill the stupid window manager =)
[11:10] <Sandreas> how does wget indicate if a file has been incompletely downloaded?
[11:10] <ompaul> ketchup, if you want there is a doc that may save you looking in the wrong places for stuff wiki.ubuntu.com/DistroLogic it explains why you look in your distro for _all_ your answers
[11:10] <LjL> _epp: i would guess so =)
[11:10] <_epp> LjL, should be common enough
[11:10] <nickrud> ok, I've gotten it reinstalled, I'll see what the docs say
[11:10] <ketchup> is it private msg when font is in red?
[11:10] <michael__> LjL: haha there's no way to?
[11:10] <variant> Sandreas: wget -c to continue
[11:10] <soundray> variant: don't advise people to use sudo su. sudo -i is safer.
[11:10] <tritium> ketchup: no
[11:10] <vogel> how install deb files?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> ketchup: no it means someons said your name
[11:10] <LjL> michael__: yeah, "sudo killall kdm" if you're out of patience
[11:10] <variant> soundray: if you like
[11:10] <gnomefreak> someone*
[11:10] <ketchup> nice :)
[11:10] <michael__> LjL: okay
[11:10] <chuckyp> nickrud, so he could just "echo <pathto>/ddclient > /etc/rcS.d/bootmisc.sh
[11:10] <ompaul> ketchup, no it is typically your name so all else is black and you can tell when someone is talking to you
[11:10] <_epp> LjL, mabey restart giFT daemon?
[11:10] <LjL> michael__: (or "sudo killall gdm", whatever it is)
[11:10] <vook> hmm, my screen blanks after about 60 seconds while on battery.  Anyone know of a gnome gui app that can control acpi settings, in the screensaver dialog, I have screen blanking set to 10 minutes.
[11:10] <ketchup> a few days ago i burned my cpu
[11:11] <soundray> variant: it's not a matter of what I like ;)
[11:11] <variant> yes it is..
[11:11] <michael__> LjL: "There already appears to be an X server running..."
[11:11] <sirtode> ok, went to the howto to compile a kernel, and following the directions, it can't find the source package. What source package should I be downloading for ubuntu 5.10?
[11:11] <ketchup> i tried to find the problem during all this WE
[11:11] <LjL> _epp: perhaps. you sure your giftoxic is actually configured for *using* the gnutella network? i think i had to take some additional steps with apollon
[11:11] <vogel> deb files how to install?
[11:11] <djp> mgpalmer sudo update-rc.d ddclient defaults
[11:11] <michael__> LjL: is says that on alt+f7
[11:11] <tritium> ketchup: so now you have a fried chip?  mmm...ketchup and chips
[11:11] <LjL> michael__: so no windows anymore?
[11:11] <michael__> LjL: and my music stoped ;(
[11:11] <michael__> LjL: correct
[11:11] <vogel> !deb
[11:11] <ubotu> To install a .deb file: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb  (but note that the program you want might be installable using !apt from the !repos)
[11:11] <LjL> michael__: ok, "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[11:11] <sixhat> vogel, dpkg -i domedebfile.deb
[11:11] <variant> soundray: i guess it is more secure
[11:11] <ketchup> tritium: as u say :p
[11:12] <IdleOne> vogel>  dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:12] <tritium> ketchup: so I assume you're using a different computer?
[11:12] <_epp> LjL, any idea what you did?
[11:12] <soundray> variant: and you know you're using the root env, rather than the user's.
[11:12] <gnomefreak> i686 is 64bit right?
[11:12] <variant> true
[11:12] <soundray> gnomefreak: no.
[11:12] <mgpalmer> djp: root@Neuromancer:/etc/init.d# update-rc.d ddclient defaults
[11:12] <mgpalmer>  System startup links for /etc/init.d/ddclient already exist.
[11:12] <ketchup> tritium: i finally detected that it was the cpu, i mixed thermal paste with thermal pad
[11:12] <michael__> LjL: okay, it restarted and i logged in, but i got some stupid image error when it started up
[11:12] <gnomefreak> oh ok good
[11:12] <LjL> _epp: i went into apollon's configuration, Advances, Plugins/Add, and selected the libgnutella-gift
[11:13] <LjL> _epp: that must have been it
[11:13] <tritium> sorry, ketchup
[11:13] <ketchup> tritium: i found another cpu Duron in my brother's room, and now it works fin
[11:13] <LjL> michael__: like what? (though, as long as it works... =)
[11:13] <jsimon> how do i install my ati mobility x300 ?
[11:13] <djp> mgpalmer, then it would appear the ddclient is already setup to start on boot
[11:13] <ketchup> i'm discovering linux world, just found that it was my gateway missing
[11:13] <tritium> ketchup: hopefully he wont mind
[11:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jsimon about ati
[11:13] <soundray> Thanks for backing me up, tritium.
[11:13] <mgpalmer> djp: that may be so, but it doesnt actually start on boot...
[11:13] <michael__> LjL: cannot find keditbookmarks.xpm
[11:13] <LoCusF> ubotu tell me about ubuntu
[11:13] <tritium> soundray: :)
[11:13] <LjL> gnomefreak: i686 just intel pentiums
[11:14] <michael__> LjL: failed to load image, rather
[11:14] <_epp> oh ok...
[11:14] <variant> ubotu: tell me about your day :)
[11:14] <djp> mgpalmer, what is ddclient, i think i have used it before? is it something to do with dyndns?
[11:14] <gnomefreak> LjL: for over 600mhz?
[11:14] <ompaul> !bot
[11:14] <nickrud> mgpalmer: take a look at /etc/default/ddclient, change run_daemon to true, and restart
[11:14] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[11:14] <ruzgar> i started a download with "wget". how can i cancel it?
[11:14] <fluvvell> does anyone know who is developing gnome-pilot?  I'm confused with the ximian / novell takover where its gone to
[11:14] <mgpalmer> nickrud: ill try that
[11:14] <ketchup> i will configure dhcp, dns, ldap and smtp now :)
[11:14] <ompaul> ruzgar, CtrlC
[11:14] <LjL> gnomefreak: dunno... for P2's and above, i think. couldn't swear on it. i think Wikipedia had an article with the correspondences somewhere...
[11:14] <xecto> hallo!
[11:14] <variant> ruzgar: ctrl c
[11:14] <gnomefreak> ruzgar: ctrl+C should do it
[11:14] <IdleOne> warning: locate: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory. How do I fix this error?
[11:14] <ruzgar> ok thanks
[11:15] <Seveas> IdleOne, sudo updatedb
[11:15] <LjL> mike-e_: just an idea - perhaps your default browser is still konqueror for some reason?
[11:15] <_epp> LjL, there was gnutella and openFT.
[11:15] <IdleOne> thank you  Seveas
[11:15] <LjL> michael__: that was for you ^^
[11:15] <LjL> _epp: yeah, gnutella should be it anyway
[11:15] <michael__> LjL: i think it might be because whenever i open links form like irc it goes into konqueror
[11:15] <michael__> LjL: heh i know
[11:15] <LjL> michael__: oh yeah! i was just telling you to try clicking on http://www.google.com in fact ;)
[11:15] <_epp> yeah now it says i have had some errors with gift
[11:15] <s|k> what's the default x window manager in ubuntu?
[11:15] <IdleOne> Seveas> warning: updatedb: could not open database: /var/lib/slocate/slocate.db: No such file or directory
[11:15] <s|k> er
[11:15] <michael__> LjL: haha what?
[11:16] <m_0_r_0_n> Today I ve reinstalled Breezy just for fun. Now I am missing the sudo terminal, where has it gone?
[11:16] <variant> is it ok to have all of kde installed alongside gnome? and still use gdm to select a session ?
[11:16] <carpediem> s|k: it's gnome, so metacity.
[11:16] <s|k> k thanks
[11:16] <Seveas> IdleOne, does it exit afterwards?
[11:16] <LjL> michael__: to check whether it was the case that konqueror was still default :)
[11:16] <gnomefreak> variant: yes its fine
[11:16] <soundray> variant: that's what I do, no problems so far.
[11:16] <michael__> LjL: how can i change it?
[11:16] <variant> gnomefreak: will installing kde setup kdm as the login manager?
[11:16] <michael__> LjL: actulaly i think i have set firefox as my default before
[11:16] <dle> IdleOne:: run 'sudo slocate -u'
[11:16] <LjL> update-alternatives ... what?
[11:16] <IdleOne> Seveas>  it exits to prompt
[11:16] <gnomefreak> michael__: what browser do you want default?
[11:17] <chuckyp> yeah bootmisc.sh would be the proper place
[11:17] <tristanmike> variant, you will be asked which you want to use
[11:17] <michael__> LjL: hey, at alt+f8 i still have that prompt that says...
[11:17] <LjL> gnomefreak: firefox
[11:17] <michael__> gnomefreak: firefox
[11:17] <IdleOne> Seveas>  oops no it doesnt exit
[11:17] <variant> thanks all
[11:17] <gnomefreak> variant: it asks you while its installing
[11:17] <michael__> LjL: "There already appears to be an X server running..."
[11:17] <LjL> michael__: i think it's just there from before
[11:17] <Sandreas> how does wget indicate if a file has been incompletely downloaded?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> michael__: in the firefox settings you should see check as default always check that
[11:17] <michael__> LjL: do i clikc yes or no on it?
[11:17] <michael__> gnomefreak: okay, thanks
[11:17] <LjL> michael__: oh, there's still a question? but what's the question?
[11:17] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:17] <IdleOne> Seveas>  sorry . yes it exited to prompt ;/
[11:18] <gnomefreak> michael__: kon. will still open files/folders
[11:18] <Seveas> IdleOne, after how long?
[11:18] <LjL> gnomefreak: isn't there an update-alternatives for that too or something similar?
[11:18] <s|k> what's the relationship between X, metacity, and Gnome?
[11:18] <s|k> X is a server
[11:18] <gnomefreak> LjL: i havent heard of one
[11:18] <Jimmer> my monitor is cabable of bigger resoltion, but Ubutunu isnt showing it ?
[11:18] <s|k> but what does it do?
[11:18] <michael__> gnomefreak: i haev that checked actulaly
[11:18] <s|k> :/
[11:18] <IdleOne> Seveas>  pc was lag about 15 seconds
[11:18] <gnomefreak> michael__: restart ff
[11:18] <Seveas> IdleOne, that sounds awfully short - try again
[11:19] <LjL> s|k: X draws your windows (and drives your gfx card). metacity draws your windows decorations. GTK draws your buttons and scrollbars and stuff. Gnome is a hat on top of it all
[11:19] <soundray> Sandreas: it doesn't.
[11:19] <IdleOne> Seveas>  ok
[11:19] <chuckyp> nickrud, woulodn't he just addit to bootmisc.sh being the proper way?
[11:19] <s|k> I see
[11:19] <mgpalmer> heya all, that last bit did it with the ddclient buisness
[11:19] <soundray> Sandreas: if you download a file whose name exists already, wget renames the new download "file.1"
[11:19] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, what last bit?
[11:19] <s|k> LjL, why isn't there one thing that does it all?
[11:19] <michael__> LjL: "There already appears to be an X server running. Should another display number be tried? Answering no will cause GDM to attempt starting the server on :0 again. (you cna change consoles by pressing ..." [yes]  [no]
[11:19] <mgpalmer> changing the /etc/default/ddclient script
[11:19] <s|k> is there an alternative to X?
[11:20] <LjL> s|k: X is known as the "X-Window server". metacity is a "window manager". GTK is a "GUI toolkit". Gnome is a "desktop environment"
[11:20] <michael__> gnomefreak: i restarted it
[11:20] <soundray> Sandreas: if you want to continue an interrupted download, you have to use the --continue option.
[11:20] <LjL> s|k: because that's just about the opposite to the Unix philosophy of doing things
[11:20] <tritium> s|k: the unix philosophy is to have modularity, which makes for good reuse
[11:20] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, and its launching on startup now?
[11:20] <mgpalmer> but that very sillily complicated...why is every program spread out over so many places ?
[11:20] <s|k> oh okay
[11:20] <mgpalmer> chukyp:yes
[11:20] <LjL> s|k: "write a program that does one thing, and does it well"
[11:20] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, its not really over time you will get it.
[11:20] <soundray> Sandreas: wget knows by the size of the partial file where to continue.
[11:20] <Jo> Ahoy.
[11:21] <LjL> michael__: no
[11:21] <soundray> Sandreas: making sense?
[11:21] <Sandreas> soundray how do I check if there was a download interupted?
[11:21] <nickrud> mgpalmer: many places, yes, but 'dependable' places. After a while, you know where to look for various things
[11:21] <mgpalmer> well anyway, thanks
[11:21] <michael__> LjL: okay thanks
[11:21] <s|k> LjL, does x work without a window manager, and can a window manager work without a destkop environment?
[11:21] <michael__> LjL: ah, i can't move the cursor on it..its frozen
[11:21] <michael__> LjL: oh well
[11:21] <s|k> or be of any use?
[11:21] <soundray> Sandreas: rerun the download with the -c or --continue option. It won't do anything if the file is already complete.
[11:21] <Seveas> LjL, both yes
[11:21] <LjL> s|k: x can work without a window manager. just login in "safe mode" (click on "Session" on the login screen). you'll "just" be unable to move windows, or iconify them, and so on
[11:22] <avu> s|k: many linux users use window managers without a DE
[11:22] <s|k> oh I see
[11:22] <IdleOne> Seveas>  thank you  that fixed it :) dle thank you  also
[11:22] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, yeah you can make your own rc.local or whatever you want for future use if the program doesn't have a script.
[11:22] <Sandreas> soundray I download multiple files by wget -i
[11:22] <LjL> s|k: X and a window manager definitely can work without a desktop environment.   I can type "linux (whatever)" but after that, it freaks.  I've tried enabling legacy USB, disabling USB, using a PS/2 keyboard, and using four different versions.
[11:22] <tritium> s|k: if you check out xubuntu, you can see what xfce is like
[11:22] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, Well I learn alot by helping.  pluss it passes the time.
[11:22] <s|k> okay
[11:23] <Seveas> LjL, ehrm, I meant s|k ;)
[11:23] <LjL> gnomefreak: not sure, i just think i recalled there was something like that for browser
[11:23] <nickrud> gnomefreak: x-www-browser (that's recognized by sensible-browser, and other things)
[11:23] <LjL> Seveas: k
[11:23] <michael__> how can i change it so that irssi doesn't use a 24 hour clock?
[11:23] <mgpalmer> chuckyp: its certainly more useful than playing diblo
[11:23] <soundray> Sandreas: hmm, interesting one
[11:23] <mgpalmer> *diablo
[11:23] <IdleOne> hey I saw a wiki on enabling numlock on boot . anybody know the link?
[11:23] <Jo> I've tried the LiveCD, which does boot (fails at device check) the AMD63 distro, and the i386 net install and full cd.
[11:23] <gnomefreak> nickrud: ty
[11:23] <LjL> michael__: why, are you actually starting to like irssi? :O
[11:23] <nickrud> all the alternatives are in /etc/alternatives
[11:23] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, lol yeah you'll start to learn more and more as you go.
[11:23] <michael__> LjL: haha yeha
[11:23] <michael__> LjL: i like things simple, which is why i hated kde
[11:24] <ruzgar> !cups
[11:24] <ubotu> [cups]  The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[11:24] <LjL> michael__: well i dunno, i use Konversation, and X-Chat when i'm in Amiga mood =)
[11:24] <Jo> I can't get any Debian base working, actually.
[11:24] <Jo> And Fedora doesn't install.
[11:24] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, like while helping you I found I could create my own startup script and how to do it. etc.. with ubuntu but unfortunately i'm not in ubuntu right now.
[11:24] <Jo> And NetBSD fails.
[11:24] <michael__> LjL: hehe okay
[11:24] <LjL> michael__: when i really want to connect to IRC from the console, the "simple" way, i use telnet :>
[11:24] <mgpalmer> chuckyp, how do you do this ?
[11:24] <chuckyp> Jo, what hardware are you using?
[11:24] <tritium> Jo, those are very common keyboard types, that definitely work.  you have a hardware problem somewhere
[11:24] <Jo> Any my system crashes when I try to flash the bios.
[11:24] <michael__> LjL: i don't know how to use telnet
[11:24] <soundray> Sandreas: wget goes through the download list top-to-bottom. You could just determine the first file that isn't already there, and delete everything in the download list up to and *not* including the previous one.
[11:24] <Jo> I'm using a Chaintech mobo.
[11:24] <Jo> AMD64.
[11:25] <Madpilot> IdleOne, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock
[11:25] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, well you need to create a script in /etc/init.d called local or whatever you want.
[11:25] <michael__> LjL: how do yourun it?
[11:25] <Jo> 3700+.
[11:25] <LjL> michael__: telnet simply lets you open (almost) a direct TCP connection to somewhere. then you have to know the specific protocol your service is using -- the IRC protocol in this case
[11:25] <soundray> Sandreas: then rerun the wget -i command.
[11:25] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, then you would use update-rc.d local defaults 80 or something similiar
[11:25] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, and anything you put in local would run on startup.
[11:25] <LjL> michael__: fortunately, the IRC protocol is an ASCII protocol, so you can write commands using english letters
[11:25] <michael__> LjL: how can i learn to use telnet?
[11:25] <Jo> The thing that kills me, is the keyboard works 'till "USB HD Probe: Tried to steal controll."
[11:25] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, ofcourse your local file needs to have !#bin/bash in it since its a script
[11:25] <mgpalmer> chuckyp, that could be useful, thanks
[11:26] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, if you search around you could find it.  let me send you a link
[11:26] <LjL> michael__: hah, i really was joking, you don't really want to use IRC via telnet :) anyway, try "telnet irc.freenode.org 6667"
[11:26] <michael__> LjL: (by the way, one of my links didn't have its icon, so i tihnk i was using a kdm icon for that link, which is why i got the err [the star icon] )
[11:26] <Jo> So I can use the keyboard and the ports, it just stops recognizing my USB materials.
[11:26] <LjL> michael__: (telnet might not be installed though)
[11:26] <mgpalmer> chuckyp, or a perl script should work too or not ?
[11:26] <IdleOne> thanks Madpilot  I found it :)
[11:26] <LjL> michael__: oh
[11:26] <Jimmer> how do i see anad explore ntfs partitions ?
[11:26] <IdleOne> Madpilot>  had a newbie momment didnt think of asking ubotu  heh
[11:26] <Madpilot> IdleOne, the bot knows everything :P
[11:26] <IdleOne> indeed
[11:27] <michael__> LjL: i typed it
[11:27] <tritium> Madpilot: does it know the meaning of life?  :)
[11:27] <Jo> ...
[11:27] <michael__> LjL: conection closed by foreign host
[11:27] <LjL> michael__: you should see Freenode giving you it's standard welcome message after a while
[11:27] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, http://www.plope.com/Members/chrism/debian_rc_local_equiv
[11:27] <LjL> michael__: hm?
[11:27] <private_meta> hi... i have a little problem, maybe you can help: Does anyone here know why i can't use my new keyboard (MS Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4k) in my GRUB? i can't chose a boot option, does anyone know how to fix that?
[11:27] <Madpilot> !tell tritium about 42
[11:27] <LjL> michael__: but it did send you a couple of messages first, didnt it?
[11:27] <soundray> Sandreas: will that work for you?
[11:27] <Jo> private_meta: Is it a USB keyboard?
[11:27] <private_meta> yes
[11:27] <tritium> Madpilot: :)
[11:27] <Jo> Because we can be sad together.
[11:28] <michael__> LjL: yes, the last one was "no ident (auth) response"
[11:28] <LjL> michael__: ok, do it again and type "USER blah blah blah blah" and "NICK blah"
[11:28] <michael__> LjL: erro closing link <IP_ADDRESS> (connection timed out)
[11:28] <michael__> LjL: aren't i <IP_ADDRESS>?
[11:28] <private_meta> Jo: yes, it's a USB Keyboard
[11:28] <s|k> I'm scared to run this update:   UTF8 Migration Tool Convert your system to UTF8 This will convert your system to UTF8, including renaming any files from your legacy encoding to UTF-8
[11:28] <soundray> private_meta: you probably have to change a BIOS setup option. Here it's called "USB legacy mode for keyboard and mice"
[11:28] <LjL> michael__: then type "JOIN #ubuntu"
[11:28] <s|k> should I run that?
[11:28] <s|k> :0
[11:28] <LjL> michael__: yeah, that's you
[11:29] <IdleOne> lol @ the 42 factoid
[11:29] <soundray> ouch chuckyp
[11:29] <Madpilot> OK, I'm having Java problems. I've got Sun Java JRE installed per the wiki, but when I run "java -jar foo.jar" my system is still trying to use the (useless) free gij Java - how do I get it using Sun Java?
[11:29] <Jimmer> how do i SEE other NTFS partitions in Ubuntu ?
[11:29] <Jimmer> how do i SEE other NTFS partitions in Ubuntu ?
[11:29] <LjL> !tell Jimmer about ntfs
[11:29] <Seveas> !tell Jimmer about ntfs
[11:29] <chuckyp> soundray, not necessarily a bad thing.
[11:29] <michael__> LjL: kornbluth.freenode.net 451 *  JOIN: Register first
[11:29] <private_meta> soundray: i will try...
[11:29] <s|k> lol
[11:29] <nickrud> s|k: I wouldn't, unless I actually knew what that meant
[11:29] <Madpilot> !tell Jimmer about repeat
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: did you run update-alternative
[11:29] <private_meta> (gotta change keyboard for that)
[11:29] <s|k> heh
[11:29] <michael__> LjL: i think i'm over telnet
[11:29] <chuckyp> Jimmer, you mount them
[11:29] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, no, I'll try that
[11:29] <chuckyp> !tell Jimmer about ntfs
[11:30] <LjL> michael__: blah is me :)
[11:30] <Jimmer> thanks =)
[11:30] <michael__> LjL: heh
[11:30] <soundray> Madpilot: the bad thing about repeating is that it works most of the time :(
[11:30] <s|k> ljl should I run an update that says it will convert my system to UTF8, will everything still run?
[11:30] <betao1> hi
[11:30] <mgpalmer> Question: again, how exaclty do i use sudo ? as far as i understand its supposed to exec a command as root without having to log in as root
[11:30] <nickrud> !tell mgpalmer about sudo
[11:30] <LjL> michael__: i just typed "USER ljl ljl ljl ljl" followed by "NICK blah", and then "JOIN #ubuntu"
[11:30] <gnomefreak> mgpalmer: sudo apt-get update for example
[11:30] <betao1> i need help
[11:31] <LjL> s|k: uuh... dunno. what update is that?
[11:31] <IdleOne> betao1>  dont we all :)
[11:31] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, what's the full command for update-alternative?
[11:31] <s|k> the UTF8 migration tool LjL
[11:31] <IdleOne> betao1>  whats up?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:31] <michael__> LjL: when did you type that? i didn't even get a chance to
[11:31] <DJ_tobias> is anybody using a dell dimension 2350? I am trying to disable onboard video, and there is no option in BIOS...
[11:31] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, thanks - and I don't think that's in the wiki, I'll have to add it later
[11:31] <s|k> LjL, I didn't run it
[11:31] <LjL> michael__: i typed it just after typing "telnet ..."
[11:31] <LjL> s|k: uhm i don't really know about it
[11:32] <blah> miPRIVMSG
[11:32] <LjL> err
[11:32] <s|k> okay, I'm frightened that it would kill my system which now runs just fine heh
[11:32] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: lol my dell doesnt have it either i had to put the vc in and pull the battery out of mobo for 6 mins the bios started using my new card
[11:32] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: thats on the a10 bios
[11:32] <betao1> i install ubuntu on my laptop, that is the installation # 5024 and i still don't know anything about linux
[11:32] <blaaaa> i've asked "i have a soundblaster audigy 2 zs and an analogue 5.1 soundsystem. how can i activate my subwoofer?". did anyone answer? i've been disconnected :(
[11:32] <gnomefreak> your welcome Madpilot least i can do
[11:33] <IdleOne> betao1>  you came to the right place. anything specific you need help with?
[11:33] <DJ_tobias> gnomefreak, think thats my best bet?
[11:33] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: what bios do you have?
[11:33] <michael__> LjL: tells me to register first when i type the JOIn line
[11:33] <betao1> i would say just the basic
[11:33] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: doing that resets the bios and will bring up warnings about intrusion :(
[11:33] <IdleOne> !tell betao1  about cli
[11:33] <DJ_tobias> i didnt check gnomefreak, it should say which i have when i reboot and go into bios, yes?
[11:34] <IdleOne> betao1>  check you priv msgs
[11:34] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: it should tell you on the dell screen
[11:34] <IdleOne> !tell betao1  about repos
[11:34] <betao1> where?
[11:34] <mikebot> i really just need to get a p2p program working
[11:34] <DJ_tobias> gnomefreak, haha...
[11:34] <IdleOne> betao1>  you using xchat?
[11:35] <DJ_tobias> lemme check gnomefreak ill brb
[11:35] <soundray> gnomefreak: wow, did you send them a bill?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> hb
[11:35] <betao1> i think so
[11:35] <private_meta> soundray: thank you very much for the quick help, it works now
[11:35] <gnomefreak> soundray: i should he was about dumb as a box of rocks :(
[11:35] <keenan> #wikipedia
[11:35] <mikebot> LjL, oh, btw, thanks for all your help
[11:35] <IdleOne> betao1>  on the bottom or maybe the top of this window you will see a tab with ubotu in red click on it
[11:35] <soundray> private_meta: that's good to know, well done.
[11:36] <betao1> ok
[11:36] <private_meta> bye bye
[11:37] <LjL> mikebot: you're welcome
[11:37] <whiter> !multiverse
[11:37] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:37] <LjL> mikebot: dunno about the registration thing really
[11:38] <lwelyn> i need some advise. If i start a programm like neverwinternights( it can be every 3d open gl proram ) how can im inimize it and return back to the desktop or switch to another workind table?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell whiter about msg the bot
[11:38] <LjL> mikebot: but in any case, really, you only ever want to use telnet that way for learning protocols, not doing any real work :)
[11:38] <lwelyn> The standart shortcuts dont work here. the only way to minimize it i find out i put i na cd  :-I
[11:38] <DJ_tobias> gnomefreak, A00 is my BIOS, ouch
[11:38] <mikebot> LjL, heh yeha, i would never use it anyway, just wanted to see how it looked
[11:38] <LjL> mikebot: (actually, there are much better ways to learn protocols. you only use telnet that way if you're a nerd)
[11:38] <mikebot> LjL, hah okay
[11:38] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: how old is your pc?
[11:39] <soundray> lwelyn: do you need to do this often?
[11:39] <gulu> my laptop was out of electricity by upgrading to dapper and has shut down .. now when i try to start i got an error that /dev/hda1 does not exists so i'm hunging up in busybox now .. waht to do ?
[11:39] <lwelyn> soundray yes.
[11:39] <DJ_tobias> couple years gnomefreak
[11:39] <gnomefreak> gulu: start all over
[11:39] <IdleOne> gulu>  reinstall
[11:39] <tritium> gulu: time to reinstall
[11:39] <gulu> shit ..
[11:39] <whiter> where are the actual files i can edit to enable multiverse
[11:39] <whiter> without using the package manager
[11:39] <tritium> language, gulu
[11:39] <IdleOne> gulu>  language
[11:39] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: i cant tell you on those bios for certain
[11:39] <LjL> gulu: boot from a live cd
[11:39] <lwelyn> can you help me soundray?
[11:40] <mikebot> LjL, shit, i think i may have uninstalled my video codecs
[11:40] <IdleOne> whiter>  /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:40] <gulu> was upgrading to dapper and downloaded 2 ours and was installing them for 1 ours
[11:40] <soundray> lwelyn: 1 min
[11:40] <LjL> gulu: you might be able to fix it, though i doubt it, and at least you can backup your files
[11:40] <DJ_tobias> gnomefreak, if i updated my bios, im reading in google posts that it should have an integrated video option?
[11:40] <gnomefreak> gulu: you have to start over the files werent all copied to disk
[11:40] <IdleOne> gulu>  1 more hour to save yourself many hours of headaches
[11:40] <tritium> mikebot: I think I've already warned you about language...
[11:40] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: it might help yet
[11:40] <gnomefreak> yes
[11:41] <LjL> mikebot: hm i can't see that in the list of removed packages actually
[11:41] <mikebot> tritium, ah, right, sorry
[11:41] <DJ_tobias> gnomefreak, know the best site to get a file for upgrading?
[11:41] <gulu> how can i backup my existing data when "mount" shows not my partition
[11:41] <blaaaa> how do i install more themes? i've downloaded a few, but when i press install and pick the .xml file it tells me the format is invalid :/
[11:41] <LjL> DJ_tobias: sorry?
[11:41] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: for bios you should get them from the dell site
[11:41] <mikebot> LjL, maybe not, i don't think i've tried to opena  wmv before
[11:41] <tritium> gulu: did you have important personal data on the drive?
[11:41] <LjL> oh, bios
[11:42] <andres3122> alguien habla espaol?
[11:42] <LjL> !tell mikebot about restrictedformats
[11:42] <LjL> !es
[11:42] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:42] <IdleOne> !es
[11:42] <gulu> yes tritium
[11:42] <mikebot> tritium, it's actually pretty subconscious on my part
[11:42] <tritium> mikebot: okay, please try to watch it in the future.   Thanks!
[11:42] <soundray> lwelyn: you can minimize it with 'killall -s STOP neverwinternights'. You just have to tie this command to a hotkey that isn't swallowed by neverwinternights.
[11:42] <mikebot> tritium, i will welcome
[11:42] <IdleOne> mikebot>  the concious can overide the subconcious :P
[11:43] <lwelyn> soundary thatnk you....
[11:43] <mikebot> IdleOne, well i wasn't making that concious an effort to stop doing it
[11:43] <IdleOne> hehe apperently
[11:43] <lwelyn> but i think nwn gets all buttons @ soundary
[11:43] <soundray> lwelyn: you may be interested in the xbindkeys package.
[11:43] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: just know something before you start back up anything important onto disks/floppies/whatever   if something goes wrong during bios flash you could be in trouble
[11:43] <DJ_tobias> gnomefreak, do you know of any other way to turn off integrated video( easier )?
[11:43] <gulu> tritium maybe about 5MB, but these 5MB are important for me
[11:43] <IdleOne> mikebot>  no harm no foul but tritium  isnt a patient person
[11:43] <LjL> mikebot: you could probably write a script for your IRC client that filters out any sentences containing s and f words :)
[11:43] <betao1> Thanks a lot. I bookmarked those sites it will be a beginer for me.
[11:43] <tritium> gulu: you could possibly recover them with a live CD
[11:43] <lwelyn> soundary perhaps
[11:43] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: if its not in bios no (ripping it off mobo) but that breaks mobo :(
[11:43] <IdleOne> betao1>  no problem anytime you need help you know where to come
[11:44] <tritium> IdleOne: sure I am :)
[11:44] <mikebot> ljljhaha possibly
[11:44] <soundray> lwelyn: can you switch to a text console with Ctrl-Alt-F1 when nwn is running?
[11:44] <lwelyn> aye
[11:44] <mgpalmer> Question: I downloaded and de-tar-gz-ed firefox 1.5...now ive got a folder iwht lotsa files in it. how do i install it ?
[11:44] <tritium> !lart IdleOne
[11:44] <lwelyn> the only combo that works
[11:44] <mikebot> is it polite not to use such language here, or  a rule?
[11:44] <gulu> tritium thanks will try this :(
[11:44] <LjL> mikebot: it's a rule
[11:44] <soundray> lwelyn: it's not capturing every key then ;)
[11:44] <IdleOne> tritium>  want me to switch to offtopic so you can lart me?
[11:44] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, can you just use apt to install it?
[11:44] <LjL> !tell mikebot about coc
[11:44] <DJ_tobias> yea, no good gnomefreak haha..
[11:44] <tritium> mikebot: we actually have a code of conduct
[11:44] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, why are you installing from source?
[11:44] <tritium> IdleOne: nah, it's okay :)
[11:44] <IdleOne> k :)
[11:44] <mikebot> ah okay
[11:45] <mikebot> soryr then
[11:45] <gnomefreak> tritium: lart is no longer known by ubotu
[11:45] <mgpalmer> chuckyp, i tried synaptic, i could only find firefox 1.07 there, and the downloaded firefox is not a source release
[11:45] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, lart works in #ubuntu-offtopic, but not here
[11:45] <IdleOne> Ubugtu>  knows lart?
[11:45] <soundray> lwelyn: you could try if this works by logging in on the console and issuing the killall command above.
[11:45] <gnomefreak> support channle
[11:46] <bimberi> LjL: :) - there's also !conduct
[11:46] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, well look for a readme in the directory that you untarred it to.
[11:46] <tritium> gnomefreak: in other channels it is
[11:46] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: Ubugtu may not no we were talking ubotu
[11:46] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, should come with instructions
[11:46] <LjL> bimberi: i'll keep that in mind ;)
[11:46] <joeyb> How long does it take for them to ship CDs?
[11:46] <betao1> how do i install turboprin for canon i550 on ubuntu?
[11:46] <IdleOne> 4-6 weeks
[11:46] <lwelyn> soundary okay
[11:46] <bimberi> joeyb: 4-6 weeks
[11:46] <DJ_tobias> gnomefreak how do i find out which is the proper bios to upgrade to?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> 6-8 weeks sometimes longer depending wher eyou are
[11:46] <IdleOne> !tell betao1  about print
[11:46] <soundray> LjL: there are several meanings to that word, and not all of them have a xxx connotation.
[11:47] <DJ_tobias> theres a post on dell.com saying if i upgrade to A02 i should be good, but its like 5 years old
[11:47] <gnomefreak> DJ_tobias: that i dont know call the jerk i talked to?
[11:47] <DJ_tobias> haha
[11:47] <LjL> soundray: sure, except doesn't that apply to just about every word in english? =)
[11:47] <mgpalmer> chuckyp, there is a readme that only points me to the firefox site...and there the only install instructions are to untar the file
[11:47] <betao1> thanks
[11:48] <mikebot> dj tobias funke
[11:48] <cafuego_> !ff1.5
[11:48] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, and you are sure this isn't source?
[11:48] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:48] <cafuego_> Would that be what you're after?
[11:48] <soundray> LjL: most of the "forbidden" words don't have any meaning outside a swearing or xxxual context.
[11:48] <chuckyp> cafuego_, ty commond request I take it.
[11:48] <IdleOne> betao1>  you can enter searchterm in the window ubotu send you the msgs ex: java
[11:49] <cafuego_> chuckyp: It's *way* up there :-)
[11:49] <mgpalmer> chuckyp: yeah, its got a "firefox" file in there and a "firefox-bin"...but when i ./firefox, it gives me this error, hang on:
[11:49] <mgpalmer> mgpalmer@Neuromancer:~/Desktop/firefox$ ./firefox
[11:49] <mgpalmer> ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:49] <chuckyp> !tell mgpalmer about ff1.5
[11:49] <LjL> soundray: hm, true i guess... except that for me, it's extremely hard to make the right "ee" sound when i ask for a "sheet", say ;)
[11:49] <Jimmer> how do we mount an ISO file as a CDROM ?
[11:49] <chuckyp> mgpalmer, read the wiki ubotu sent you
[11:49] <mgpalmer> k
[11:50] <cafuego_> In fact, it's #4 in the top-overall, with 610 requests.
[11:50] <LjL> mount -t iso9660 -o ro,loop=/dev/loop0 cd_image /cdrom
[11:50] <LjL> Jimmer: ^^
[11:50] <Psi-Jack> Hmm.
[11:50] <Jimmer> which file does that mount ?
[11:50] <Jimmer> cd_image.iso ?
[11:50] <LjL> Jimmer: "cd_image"
[11:50] <soundray> LjL: so it's okay to talk about your cock in polite conversation, since it can be a male domestic bird. But you can't say *** oops, I almost said it ;)
[11:50] <Jimmer> thanks
[11:50] <Psi-Jack> Anyone know of a web-based firewall/NAT/PAT manager, at all? ;)
[11:50] <betao1> ok, thanks
[11:51] <soundray> LjL: just make the same i sound that occurs in Pisa ;)
[11:51] <LjL> Jimmer: also, i think you should use "/media/cdrom" instead of just "/cdrom" (i copied that command from a site, and i intended to change it a little, but pasted by mistake ;)
[11:51] <seraphim> Psi-Jack: webmin-firewall
[11:51] <lwelyn> soundray it takes really all combos :-(
[11:51] <tritium> soundray: dude, it's just out of courtesy and respect for others here that we ask users not to use profanity
[11:52] <Psi-Jack> seraphim: Hmmm. That might do what I'm looking for. Mostly I just want to be able to remotely manage my monitor-less servers, and setup firewalls and port-forwards.
[11:52] <mgpalmer> thank you very much everybody
[11:52] <seraphim> yes, that will work
[11:52] <soundray> tritium: I know. I'm just arguing that the common abbreviation for the code of conduct is perfectly polite.
[11:52] <soundray> lwelyn: but that's good news, isn't it?
[11:53] <tritium> soundray: okay...
[11:53] <SirKillalot> what is the apt-get command to install all needed libs for program to get compiled?
[11:53] <IdleOne> perhaps the CoC abreviation should be changed to C.O.C?
[11:53] <LjL> soundray: that's the correct sound, in theory. but in practice that "i" can sound both ways, depending on the mood/phase of the moon/etc. all in all, it's quite hard for us to get the correct "i" in english. anyway - let's close the offtopicness i suppose
[11:53] <lwelyn> soundray it isnt good :-I .... i cant define a key combo...
[11:53] <LjL> IdleOne: or CC
[11:54] <LinuxJones> SirKillalot: build-essential
[11:54] <soundray> lwelyn: oh, I see, it captures them all.
[11:54] <globe> how do I search apt-get ?
[11:54] <tritium> SirKillalot: apt-get build-dep <package name>
[11:54] <LjL> !tell globe about shortapt
[11:54] <tritium> globe: apt-cache search <term>
[11:54] <betao1> Looks like the s800 is similar to canon i550
[11:54] <soundray> lwelyn: file a bug against nwn then...
[11:54] <LinuxJones> globe: apt-cache search pattern
[11:54] <DJ_tobias> ugh, do they sell floppy disks at walmart?!
[11:54] <__mikem> Is it bad if my system does not have a file called XF86Config
[11:54] <lwelyn> soundray its the same with ut2k4
[11:54] <soundray> __mikem: no,it isn't.
[11:54] <IdleOne> DJ_tobias>  only on fridays..yeah they do near my house
[11:55] <tritium> LinuxJones: build-essential doesn't pull in a package's build dependencies
[11:55] <globe> oh thanks!
[11:55] <Jimmer> how do i bring up a Root console ?
[11:55] <LjL> Jimmer: "sudo -i"
[11:55] <soundray> __mikem: xorg.conf takes that role.
[11:55] <ubuntuking> SirKillalot, apt-get install build-essential
[11:55] <LjL> Jimmer: and you should do that as little as possible of course
[11:55] <ubuntuking> Jimmer, sudo su
[11:55] <__mikem> OK
[11:56] <betao1> when i tryed to install i saw the installation of TurboPrint there it looks like that worked before but i did not realised
[11:56] <LjL> ubuntuking: "sudo -i" is preferred
[11:56] <ubuntuking> LjL, why
[11:56] <LjL> ubuntuking: 'cause it puts you in a predictable environment
[11:56] <soundray> lwelyn: you mentioned above something that minimizes it without your intervention -- remind me what that was pls.
[11:56] <__mikem> My other problem is, for some reason wine stopped working, I get this error message
[11:56] <__mikem> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:56] <fluvvell> anyone familiar with gnome-pilot
[11:56] <fluvvell> ?
[11:57] <Kurt> why do Democrats hate Jews?
[11:57] <SirKillalot> is there a chance to change the whole system language? I mean my kde/gnome is english, but programs like apt are still german, because I installed ubuntu in german
[11:57] <globe> !wifi
[11:57] <ubotu> from memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[11:57] <IdleOne> Kurt>  good question ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:57] <SirKillalot> is there a method to change the whole system language?
[11:57] <LinuxJones> Kurt: please stop talking like that in here
[11:58] <gnomefreak> Kurt: not in here and thats not the best topic at all
[11:58] <LjL> __mikem: does your xorg.conf include a     Load "glx"     in your Section "Module"?
[11:58] <Jimmer> i get no such file or directory when trying to mount the ISO
[11:58] <gnomefreak> IdleOne: things like that i wouldnt send to offtopic
[11:58] <lwelyn> soundray well if i run a 3d pengl prog i cant switch destops
[11:58] <dabaR> SirKillalot: off course.
[11:58] <__mikem> hold on
[11:58] <gnomefreak> it will have sam effct
[11:58] <SirKillalot> dabaR, how to?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> sasme effect*
[11:59] <SirKillalot> dabaR, many console programs are in german, that sucks
[11:59] <SirKillalot> I want them to be english
[11:59] <LjL> Jimmer: does the error refer to the iso, or to /media/cdrom?
[11:59] <soundray> SirKillalot: try to set LANGUAGE="en_GB:en" in /etc/environment
[11:59] <ubuntuking> LjL, good to know i use sudo su all the time i thought that they were all the same
[11:59] <dabaR> SirKillalot: install the language pack you want, and then choose your language either at login, or in the gnome menu.