[00:26] <BUGabundo> annnndddd I'm out
[01:38] <charlie-tca> !info wayland
[02:15] <lolcat> How can I see open network connections in linux?
[02:16] <Omega> lolcat: netstat
[07:54] <chand> Hi
[07:56] <chand> I can't get gnome-shell working on Oneiric with or w/o Ricotz testing ppa, gnome session load, then gnome-shell respawn too fast
[11:31] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:18] <KjetilK> Anything else I need to do for this sync than this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/librdf-rdfa-generator-perl/+bug/806875 ?
[12:23] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I use the oneiric alpha in a virtualbox and so of course, I have to use unity. How do I change the theme with the appearance dialog being gone?
[13:07] <geser> KjetilK: subscribe "ubuntu-sponsors" else they don't see it (a dev has to ACK your bug before it goes to the archive admins who act on it)
[13:16] <KjetilK> geser, ok, thanks
[13:21] <Daekdroom> KNUBBIG, it's no longer part of GNOME
[13:21] <Daekdroom> You can manually edit it using gconf-editor or install gnome-tweak-tool, which requires gnome-shell
[13:26] <ior3k> is it only me or is it just unbelievable the way they butchered gnome 3? Was kde 4 this bad? Actually, was gnome 2 this bad? I can't remember
[13:40] <KNUBBIG> Daekdroom: this is quite bitchy as gnome-shell doesn't run unter virtualbox for me so I can't install gnome-tweak tool ...
[13:52] <Daekdroom> KNUBBIG, it doesn't run, but all you have to do is install the package and keep using Unity.
[13:53] <Daekdroom> ior3k, KDE4 was heavily criticized upon its launch, indeed, but what's so bad about GNOME 3?
[14:06] <ior3k> Daekdroom: I can't say for sure, it "feels" like it's trying to restrict itself to a very specific kind of user
[14:07] <ior3k> Daekdroom: and I don't understand the decision behind gnome-shell (and unity 3d) too, of, e.g., making the panel part of the shell
[14:07] <ior3k> seems to me to be completely agains the unix principle of one tool for the job
[14:07] <Daekdroom> If they weren't part of the same thing, it'd be a panel and a dock, not a shell.
[14:07] <ior3k> so?
[14:08] <ior3k> why unity 2d and unity 3d? the unity 2d panel is quite good
[14:08] <ior3k> why not use that on both unity 2d and 3d
[14:08] <ior3k> ?
[14:08] <Daekdroom> Are they different?
[14:09] <ior3k> well, right now they are, the unity 2d one works with gtk2 and the unity 3d one works with gtk3, it seems
[14:09] <ior3k> I'd just like to understand why the duplication of effort
[14:09] <Daekdroom> Oh. Unity-3D is not friendly to computers that don't have 3D accel.
[14:09] <Daekdroom> That's all.
[14:10] <ior3k> a simple setting in the panel
[14:10] <ior3k> good abstractions would take care of it
[14:10] <Daekdroom> I'm not following.
[14:10] <Daekdroom> Unity-2D and 3D panels feel exactly the same, except for the GTK themeing that is different.
[14:11] <ior3k> Daekdroom: but is the code behind them the same? is there any reuse?
[14:11] <ior3k> if both tools would use the same panel, we wouldn't have this difference in behavior
[14:11] <Daekdroom> It doesnt matter. Once Unity-2D's panel goes GTK3, it'll still not use the same code.
[14:11] <Daekdroom> What difference in behaviour?
[14:11] <Daekdroom> The behaviour is pretty much the same. The code is different.
[14:12] <ior3k> unity 2d using gtk2 and unity 3d using gtk3
[14:12] <Daekdroom> That is not what I call behaviour. They're made using different toolkits to look as similar as possible.
[14:12] <ior3k> Daekdroom: that's my point: one panel = one team working on it = less effort = faster development
[14:12] <Daekdroom> Unity2d uses qt and and Unity3D uses nux
[14:13] <Daekdroom> I agree on that, but it's not possible to run Unity3D on every machine, so...
[14:13] <ior3k> so you abstract away the parts that don't
[14:13] <ior3k> and reuse the rest of the code
[14:13] <ior3k> doesn't seem like there's any need to write 2 entirely different systems
[14:13] <ior3k> same for the dock, etc
[14:14] <Daekdroom> They are meant to use the same indicators, for example, but Unity2D has yet to support gtk3.
[14:15] <ior3k> right, but if they came from the same codebase you wouldn't see this problem, I think
[14:16] <Daekdroom> I suspect that if it was possible, they'd have done it.
[14:16] <ior3k> yeah, that's what I hope :)
[14:16] <ior3k> but given that gnome 2 panel worked fine with compiz
[14:16] <ior3k> and given that, say, gnome-do worked fine both with compositing and without
[14:17] <Daekdroom> Unity-2D does work with compositing.
[14:17] <Daekdroom> It just doesn't have any bling.
[14:17] <ior3k> right, that's true
[14:17] <ior3k> which makes it even stranger :)
[14:18] <ior3k> but anyway, it's not my business
[14:18] <ior3k> I guess I'm just frustrated because gnome 2 worked just fine for me :)
[14:47] <Dimmuxx> is anyone else missing the network indicator?
[14:54] <charlie-tca> for several days already
[15:37] <dholbach> UDW (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek) day 3 starting in 23 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[16:04] <smoser> anyone else having issues with firefox ?
[16:04] <smoser> if i have an extension installed, it will fail to start
[16:05] <micahg> smoser: extension not compatible?
[16:05] <smoser> it segfaults
[16:05] <smoser> i've tried 2 different extensions (pentadactly, and viewsourcewith)
[16:06] <micahg> smoser: are they binary?  they would need rebuilds for Firefox 6
[16:06] <smoser> pentadactyl installs and starts (and works fine) without a browser restart, but then if i have to restart, i segfault
[16:06]  * yofel only had one random crash with 6 so far, works fine otherwise
[16:06] <smoser> micahg, i dont think they're binary, i know nothing about extensions. i just click and install
[16:06] <smoser> :)
[16:07] <micahg> hmm, it was auto-bumped...
[16:09] <micahg> actually, I don't know if that's true...
[16:11] <micahg> smoser: you could try in a clean profile to see if it's something else you have installed (firefox -P)
[16:11] <smoser> yeah. i can try.
[16:12] <smoser> reproduces
[16:12] <smoser> $ firefox -ProfileManager -no-remote
[16:12] <smoser>  create new profile
[16:13] <smoser>  extensions -> install pentadactyl
[16:13] <smoser>  close browser
[16:13] <smoser>  start firefox (with that profile)
[16:13] <smoser> crash
[16:13] <micahg> smoser: does the crash reporter come up?
[16:13] <smoser> yeah
[16:16] <micahg> smoser: maybe file a crash report and see what the backtrace shows
[16:16] <micahg> s/file/submit/
[16:17] <smoser> hm... maybe it is just pentadactyl
[16:19] <smoser> i get "there was a problem submitting your report"
[16:29] <smoser> micahg, well, i submitted pentadactyl bug http://code.google.com/p/dactyl/issues/detail?id=595
[16:31] <micahg> smoser: k
[16:32] <smoser> the browser is useless to me without pentadactyl .
[16:32] <smoser> :)
[17:47] <CarlFK> $ gconftool-2 -g /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename;  /usr/share/backgrounds/warty-final-ubuntu.png
[17:47] <CarlFK> yay warty!
[17:51] <trism> yeah, that hasn't changed in forever, the worst part is that it is a jpeg
[17:52] <yofel> it's there because someone hardcoded the name somewhere so renaming that would be a bit of a PITA
[17:56] <coz_> replace the image with th e same name ?
[18:25] <nit-wit> anybody getting the gnome3 look at logon. Is gnome3 the goal of oneiric in the end?
[18:39] <Daekdroom> Nice! The multimedia keys started working again.
[18:40] <smoser> micahg, i opened bug 810074
[18:40] <smoser> as it is not reproducible with binary from firefox of same version
[18:45] <h00k> Daekdroom: orly!
[18:45] <h00k> Daekdroom: what update fixed it?
[18:46] <Daekdroom> I'm not sure.
[18:46] <h00k> I'll have to check mine when Ig et home
[18:56] <Andre_Gondim> why the last live imagem is from 5th july?
[18:56] <Andre_Gondim> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[18:58] <trism> Andre_Gondim: my guess is lp 807974, see the comments at the end
[18:59] <yofel> sounds reasonable, they don't even try to build (as in: no build log on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/oneiric/)
[18:59] <Andre_Gondim> thanks
[19:02] <charlie-tca> The alternate images (Daily) do work
[20:02] <Omega> How do I enable unity-greeter?
[20:14] <trism> Omega: edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf and set greeter-theme to unity
[20:15]  * Pici wonders if that landed in the lightdm ppa as well
[20:15] <trism> it actually looks pretty nice, something different anyway
[20:47] <litropy> I'm getting NISSERVER: not found when setting up nis. a recent google search tells me this is likely because ... somehow, a bit alarmingly, my computer has been set to check a server for my password file, or something along those lines. 1) how do I fix it; 2) What's the likelihood I've been hacked?
[20:57] <guntbert> litropy: I cannot help but please don't post your question in several ubuntu channels, are you on oneiric?
[20:57] <litropy> correct. apologies - chan was quiet.
[21:02] <guntbert> litropy: that happens ... as oneiric is still in alpha2 it could be an issue that gets solved soon ... hopefully
[21:03] <litropy> Maybe I another issue is easier: I have no time in my panel. Time and Date syspref crashes before loading its window.
[21:03] <litropy> -I
[21:06] <guntbert> litropy: I'm just lurking here, haven't installed oneiric yet - so again: no idea :)
[21:06] <xleelz> I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.10 alpha 2 and tried to install gnome-shell so I could use the gnome 3 interface but it says that there are unmet dependencies and broken packages... what should I do?
[21:11] <h00k> xleelz: I don't think gnome-shell integration is complete at the moment
[21:11] <h00k> which is why there are unmet dependencies
[21:14] <xleelz> h00k, ok, thanks
[21:21] <Daekdroom> gnome-shell was broken by evolution-data-server-common update.
[21:21] <Daekdroom> It was installable until a few days ago.
[21:28] <xleelz> anyone know when they'll fix it?
[21:53] <hans_> Has kernel 3 solved the power regression yet?
[23:55] <IdleOne> !upgrader
[23:55] <IdleOne> !upgrade
[23:55] <Pici> IdleOne: expecting something different?
[23:56] <IdleOne> I was
[23:56] <IdleOne> I was wrong
[23:58] <IdleOne> Pici: wasn't there a wiki with note on upgrading to +1?
[23:58] <IdleOne> notes*


[13:56] <thorwil> newz2000: hi! say, the number of downloads for hardy is a secret, right? :)
[14:20] <qense> hello
[14:21] <thorwil> hi qense
[14:33] <newz2000> thorwil: yes, it is a secret
[14:33] <newz2000> mark usually publishing interesting summaries on his blog
[16:21] <vbabiy> newz2000: do you have any idea what 8.10 going to look like yet?
[16:22] <newz2000> vbabiy: no, I don't, but I noticed a new walpaper come through yesterday
[16:23] <vbabiy> newz2000: the beta will have the final graphics right?
[16:23] <newz2000> it has a bunch of swirled dots similar to thorwil's countdown concept
[16:23] <newz2000> vbabiy: there's no rule... art often gets a freeze exception
[16:24] <vbabiy> I hopes its really nice
[18:28] <newz2000> hey thorwil, are you around?
[18:30] <thorwil> yes
[18:30] <newz2000> hey, on your countdown svg file, are the images (with the swirls and numbers) svg objects?
[18:30] <newz2000> I can't seem to select them
[18:31] <thorwil> newz2000: in most cases, everything except the changing parts are clones
[18:31] <newz2000> oh, right
[18:31] <thorwil> newz2000: use the plate layer for exporting, though
[18:32] <thorwil> newz2000: that is, lock other layers, use export targets
[18:33] <newz2000> I'm not going to re-export, yours look great
[18:33] <thorwil> with them, you get proper filenames
[18:33] <thorwil> good :)
[18:33] <newz2000> I was just going to try and use your swirl in a piece that would appear next to the countdown banner
[18:36] <thorwil> well, pick one and declone :)
[18:36] <newz2000> ah, I didn't know about declone
[18:36] <thorwil> newz2000: i think it's in edit menu, clone and something about breaking the link
[18:36] <thorwil> don't remember the actial term used
[18:37] <newz2000> thorwil: btw, I like your concept on defining icon palette using bg colors, I tried this once using alpha transparency. It had some neat effects but I don't know if it could be use for icons. They're a very tricky form of art.
[18:38] <thorwil> yes, indeed :)
[18:39] <newz2000> inkscape started behaving very badly since I opened your document. :-)
[18:39] <thorwil> newz2000: heh, be happay i didn't use blur :)


[19:35] <ibeardslee> morning
[19:54] <ajmitch_> morning
[20:51] <hads> morning
[21:47] <mwhudson> hads: say, do you have any of those android tv set top box type things?
[23:23] <hads> mwhudson: Not here sorry. I have looked at them, waiting on XBMC to be more stable on Android.
[23:24] <mwhudson> hads: ok thanks
[23:24] <mwhudson> hads: mostly interested in skype tbh
[23:24] <mwhudson> there are expensive shiny things that probably work well and super cheap dodgy looking chinese things that might be better judging by the specs, but no real way of knowing
[23:27] <G> mwhudson: talking about those HDMI Android 'usb-stick' like things?
[23:30] <mwhudson> G: basically i want a cheaper version of http://shop.skype.com/intl/en-nz/skype-for-tv/tv-compatible-webcams/tely-hd/
[23:30] <mwhudson> and ideally a newer android than froyo...
[23:31] <G> mwhudson: ahhh right, I was thinking you might be talking about something like SmartVu, but that appears to be stuck on Android 4.0
[23:31] <mwhudson> 4.0 seems better than 2.2 :) but i want the webcam and mic too
[23:32] <G> yeah, wonder what Android is like with external webcams
[23:32] <ibeardslee> problem with most/all of those devices is that you probably won't get a supplier provided update to the Android version.
[23:33] <G> ibeardslee: exactly, which is why it's a pity that SmartVu appears to be following that tradition, considering that it's a Kiwi thing (afaiu)
[23:37] <G> mwhudson: the word on Stackoverflow seems to be that Android has no APIs that apps can use to access a UVC camera, (although Android can set them up etc) - you'd need to basically write a heap of stuff to interact with it  (based on what I'm reading anyway)
[23:37] <mwhudson> yeah, so screw that
[23:37] <mwhudson> i just want our parents to be able to see our daughter :)
[23:52] <hads> Buy a fancy TV with it built in? :)


[07:06] <valorie> RikMills: mparillo - I made a start on the post for kub.org but couldn't finish
[07:06] <valorie> I need a pain pill and sleep
[07:06] <valorie> left the draft and notes at the bottom
[07:06] <tsimonq2> valorie: {{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}
[07:06] <valorie> ty
 Personally, I prefer the blue one
 @Sick_Rimmit, I did until I did a little inline browser html hacking to see what it looked like on the site. It looks too slightly green, but grainy, too look good on it IMO
 https://twitter.com/kubuntu/status/1253382547171663881
[19:58] <valorie> have started all the 20.04 torrents
[19:58] <valorie> and removed all the 19.10s
[19:58] <valorie> thanks so much RikMills for your heroic work this round
[19:58] <valorie> <3
[19:58] <valorie> amazing work
[19:59] <valorie> @sick_rimmit how are you?
[19:59] <valorie> how is the Focus effort going?
[23:07]  * valorie is back on 20.04
[23:07] <valorie> \o/
[23:07] <valorie> as expected, flawless so far


[00:45] <jrgifford> yano: yeah, thats nice.
[00:45] <jrgifford> i'm going to try and convince dad to swap the house over to ipv6.
[00:49] <yano> i realize that my sites aren't working over ipv6 :-(
[00:49] <yano> i think something is wrong with apache, because the domains are resolving to the correct ipv6 addresses
[00:52] <yano> woot got it to work, apparently the last time i restarted my routes dissappeared
[00:55] <yano> sweet, now i can ssh proxy ipv6 connections from firefox
[01:03] <yano> jrgifford: you watching the cyberpunk video?
[01:27] <jrgifford> yano: no, i had to leave, dad wasn't feeling good.
[01:29] <jrgifford> I think I'll run a devops 101 discussion or something tomorrow. just for kicks, since i'm really enjoying this stuff.
[01:30] <jrgifford> quickly re-setup a dual boot for my other laptop, install virtual box on it and fire up a few other VMs or something.
[08:36] <BiosElement2> I really dunno why people contact tech support for help and choose to call me a liar for stating the facts. >.> Don't ask if you don't want to know...
[13:50] <canthus13> wh  Indiana Linux Fest... It's like a ghost town. 5 vendors.
[13:51] <dzho> canthus13: where?
[13:51]  * dzho googles
[13:52] <canthus13> Indianapolis.
[13:52] <dzho> oof
[13:52] <canthus13> On the plus side, I got my BSD horns this year. :) they have tons of them.
[13:53] <dzho> ah, right by the airport
[13:54] <canthus13> Right under the flight path, even.
[14:33] <yano> i see the Rock N' Roll hall of fame induction is today. traffic is going to be terrible
[14:35] <jrgifford> yeah, it will be. the weather won't help much either. :\
[14:36]  * yano checks the weather
[14:36] <jrgifford> it was raining earlier on my way in.
[14:37] <yano> ooh thunderstorms! :-)
[14:37] <yano> i might be outside today, :-P
[14:38] <jrgifford> :D
[15:42] <gilbert> paultag: nice work on the gcc47 build failures :)
[15:42] <paultag> gilbert: thanks man :P
[15:42] <paultag> I hate stuff holding back progress
[15:43] <gilbert> yaya
[15:43] <paultag> what's new, gilbert?
[15:43] <gilbert> not a whole lot actually
[15:43] <paultag> well, no news is good news :)
[15:43] <gilbert> yeah
[15:43] <gilbert> how about you?
[15:44] <gilbert> i like how you tagged your post "frasier"
[15:44] <paultag> not much, finally got my last +1 for NM, so I'm waiting on AM, which is cool. Work's great, a bit tired, but s'all good
[15:44] <paultag> hahaha, every blog post I have has one goofy tag :)
[15:44] <paultag> I like noticing which people notice :)
[15:45] <gilbert> haha paultag playing sociological experiments
[15:45] <paultag> >:)
[15:47] <paultag> gilbert: how's life @debian.org? :)
[15:48] <gilbert> i dunno, it doesn't really seem that different yet actually...
[15:49] <gilbert> kinda weird
[15:49] <paultag> Yeah, I'm sure it's really only debian-private and people bugging you for sponsorship :)
[15:49] <gilbert> i still feel restricted.  i've been trying to fix the state of wine but i'm not really getting anywhere
[15:49] <paultag> oh jeez
[15:50] <paultag> wine's a mess from what I can tell, what's blocking you?
[15:50] <gilbert> paultag: there is absolutely nothing going on now in debian-private except boring vacation notices
[15:50] <paultag> yeah :)
[15:50] <gilbert> http://bugs.debian.org/585409
[15:51] <gilbert> haven't really got any sponsorship requests yet
[15:51] <gilbert> did get a key signing request, but when i asked the guy what he does for debian, he never replied back
[15:51] <gilbert> so oh well
[15:52] <paultag> gilbert: wow, that post from msp is fucking lame
[15:52] <paultag> gilbert: yeah, lame. Oh well :)
[15:53] <paultag> gah
[15:53] <paultag> this is one giant ugly thread
[15:53] <gilbert> oh yes indeed
[15:53] <gilbert> :(
[15:54] <paultag> gilbert: you could do a hostile NMU ;)
[15:54] <gilbert> i know, but that's bound to stir a lot of trouble
[15:54] <paultag> gah, this thread is a mess
[15:54] <paultag> yeah, for sure. Totally joking :)
[15:55] <canthus13> Whee.   Good ole' Nota?
[16:52] <paultag> (kidding, I don't want to know :) )
[17:25] <Cheri703_> I am making progress in my sec+ study stuff!
[17:25] <canthus13> Cheri703_: Woo. :)
[17:26] <Cheri703_> I've finished 9/11 chapters, taken the practice tests after each, and have gotten 210/217 practice questions correct! \o/
[17:26] <canthus13> awesome. :)
[17:26] <Cheri703> granted, that is read it/test it, but I'm going to go back through and re-test
[17:26]  * canthus13 should start that again.
[17:27] <Cheri703> let me know if you want my book once I am done, perhaps a trade for that laptop :)
[17:28] <canthus13> Sounds good. I'll prolly get that laptop in the mail friday.
[17:28] <Cheri703> ok, cool :)
[17:29] <canthus13> ...yay for unprepared speakers.
[17:29] <paultag> canthus13: heckle!
[17:30] <canthus13> paultag: he's using OpenSUSE.  Pretty fun stuff.
[17:33] <paultag> oh cool
[17:35] <paultag> alright, i'm off for a while
[17:35] <paultag> love y'alls
[17:35] <canthus13> later.
[17:36] <Cheri703> canthus13: I wish I could go to conferences :s I haven't heard back about this work from home thing (am SUPER anxious about it), if it happens, I will totally be travelling as much as possible :)
[17:37] <canthus13> Cheri703: Cool.
[17:37] <canthus13> Cheri703: speaking of which, if you need a ride to OLF, we can prolly pick you up.
[17:37] <Cheri703> Thanks! I will keep that in mind
[17:37] <canthus13> no prob.
[17:46] <canthus13> Cheri703: they're doing an all-day Python for Women workshop.  Looks to be pretty full, unlike the rest of the fest. :/
[17:47] <Cheri703> that's cool that they're doing it, bummer that the fest is not very well populated
[17:47] <canthus13> yeah. only 5 vendors showed. no ubuntu booth. :/
[17:48] <Cheri703> :s
[17:49] <canthus13> Kit's having fun, though. :)
[17:49] <Cheri703> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/geeksAreSexyTechnologyNews/~3/4oseVJ9_188/
[17:49] <Cheri703> that's good :)
[17:49] <canthus13> Haha. Cute. :)
[17:52] <Cheri703> ok, off to work, have fun!
[17:52] <canthus13> later. :)
[19:59] <jrgifford> yano: so, now when i tried to download another 3MB package, i get 16.4 kB/s. lol
[19:59] <jrgifford> I think they are QoS'ing all package managers.
[19:59] <yano> jrgifford: yea, I was coding earlier over SSH and my SSH session timed out.
[20:00] <jrgifford> yano: dang, that takes... a slow connection.
[20:00] <yano> jrgifford: actually the 1pm talk about Setting Up a Con network described how their network here is set up
[20:00] <jrgifford> thank the lord for tmux and screen
[20:00] <jrgifford> yano: ugh, i was at lunch then, otherwise i would have been in there.
[20:00] <yano> they have a VPN through the hotel's connection that is able to shape traffic between it is sent from the ISP to the hotel
[20:01] <jrgifford> oh, that makes sense. also explains why my IP is showing up at port clinton
[20:01] <yano> yea, it's pretty complex
[20:16] <yano> instead of tunneling via ssh i'm trying a VPN
[20:18] <Unit193> Never really set one up, should do that at some point...
[20:27] <yano> no tunnleing or VPNing -- http://www.speedtest.net/result/1894680436.png
[20:27] <yano> VPN -- http://www.speedtest.net/result/1894676026.png
[20:28] <yano> did nothing
[20:31] <jrgifford> yeah, its not really that nice.
[20:35] <yano> nope :-(
[20:35] <yano> is there a command to test bandwidth? besides just measuring the last number of downloading something with curl/wget ?
[21:04] <canthus13> yano: testing bandwidth accurately requires a server at the other end.
[21:05] <yano> canthus13: yea, isn't there a command where it could do a speedtest like speedtest.net but via the cli? (where you feed in a server or something)


[01:20] <quentusrex> What is going on with the build servers?
[01:21] <quentusrex> there is a 8 hour wait for packages...
[02:05] <idnar> why hasn't https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jjacobs/methanal/better-submission-failures/+merge/12769 had a merge diff generated for it yet?
[03:08] <quentusrex> guys... something seems to be wrong with the build servers....
[03:09] <quentusrex> Monday before a package can be built for amd64?
[03:46] <shakaran> Hi, how to generate a package for karmic and jaunty? I do this dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -k1DEEE63E with a debian/karmic/.... and debian/jaunty/... but it dont work
[04:10] <quentusrex> shakaran: I build the ubuntu packages, and you shouldn't use it on karmic or jaunty
[04:11] <quentusrex> shakaran: but those of use working on the packages would love help testing and packaging.
[04:11] <quentusrex> https://launchpad.net/freeswitch
[04:11] <quentusrex> https://launchpad.net/~freeswitch-drivers
[04:13] <shakaran> quentusrex: I making a program and I have the .deb for karmic, but now I want create also the .deb for karmic
[04:13] <shakaran> quentusrex: before I have a folder debian/changelog debian/rules etc I move all to /debian/karmic/...
[04:14] <shakaran> quentusrex: but now it dont work
[04:16] <quentusrex> right
[04:16] <quentusrex> because there should not ever be the folder debian/karmic
[04:16] <quentusrex> that isn't how the packaging system works...
[04:17] <shakaran> then, how to package different .deb for distribution?
[04:17] <quentusrex> aah, then you need to learn how to package *.deb files.
[04:17] <quentusrex> you specify it in the changelog...
[04:18] <shakaran> on the changelog? but I need a different control file for dependencies
[04:21] <quentusrex> why do you need that?
[04:22] <shakaran> Because my program needs pygtk 2.14 for jaunty and for karmic 2.16. If I put 2.16 for both, jaunty dont work. And if I put 2.14 its not true for karmic, only needs 2.16
[04:22] <quentusrex> you shouldn't need a different control file....
[04:23] <quentusrex> then why specify the 2.1* ???
[04:23] <quentusrex> why not just have 'pygtk' in the control file
[04:23] <quentusrex> and it'll handle the versions...
[04:23] <shakaran> ...dont, it crash with a error because it install the .deb
[04:24] <shakaran> Can you try my program?
[04:24] <shakaran> is a simple player for streaming TV channels
[04:24] <quentusrex> shakaran: it sounds like you have a problem with your build system, and your dependancies....
[04:25] <quentusrex> this should probably be moved to #ubuntu-motu
[04:25] <quentusrex> they deal with building and maintaining the packages...
[04:25] <shakaran> I login on #ubuntu-motu...I ask 30 min ago...its dead...
[04:26] <shakaran> http://shakaran.es/blog/tivion (for translate click on right panel) And you can donwload the code for see my control file
[04:26] <ScottK> Also #ubuntu-motu is for packaging stuff in Ubuntu, not anyone in the world who is trying to us Debian style packaging.
[04:54] <meoblast001> hi
[04:55] <meoblast001> i had an idea that i'm considering hacking onto Launchpad and Apt/Firefox sometime
[04:55] <meoblast001> something where you can push a button on a PPA, and it would send a signal to APT, which would prompt the user to add it
[04:55] <meoblast001> i didn't research what i would need to modify yet, but i had the idea
[05:26] <XiXaQ> why am I being forwarded to help.ubuntu.com when I try to file a bug on karmic?
[05:26] <ScottK> XiXaQ: Read the page you are being forwarded too.  It actually explains that
[05:27] <XiXaQ> I did, I thought. I gave me a link to launchpad where I could file a bug, but I couldn't figure out why.
[05:28] <XiXaQ> oh, you have to use ubuntu-bug now?
[05:43] <XiXaQ> doesn't lp send mail when you report a bug anymore?
[05:44] <ScottK> LP does
[05:49] <XiXaQ> oh, it was just very slow.
[06:02] <quentusrex> ScottK: what are the odds of getting a new package into Karmic?
[06:03] <quentusrex> too late?
[09:11] <ripps> dang, I hate how the ppa builders are so busy when beta is out to assisst with distributing and upgrading
[09:16] <ripps> Are all the disabled servers ones that are being used for serving iso's, or are they just experiencing issues?
[09:45] <bullgard4> How can I make Launchpad to produce a list of error reports which I have contributed to?
[09:47] <mwhudson> bullgard4: bugs.launchpad.net/people/+me/+commentedbugs ?
[09:47] <mwhudson> (note, won't include fixed/duplicate bugs)
[09:59] <cwickert> how to search several "products" in launchpad? for example, all xfce related bugs, although these are ~ 25 products?
[10:04] <bullgard4> I commanded Windows Selector to move Firefox 3.5.3 to another workspace. Now my computer is frozen. Only I can move the mouse cursor. But clicking on any button has no effect. Ctrl+Alt+F1 has no effect.  What "project" or package should I attribute to my Launchpad bug report?
[10:31] <al> hey, can someone here maybe fix the git branch at https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/quassel/trunk ?
[10:36] <maxb> al: Unlikely you'll find official Launchpad people around on a Sunday - you should probably file a question in the answers tracker instead
[10:37] <al> maxb: ok
[12:11] <bullgard4> How can I set that Launchpad will list all bug reports that I subscribe to?
[12:21] <mdke> bullgard4: it does it already if you go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/people/+me/+subscribedbugs
[12:29] <bullgard4> mdke: Thank you very much.
[14:14] <ryanakca> How can I confirm an email address on an IPv6 only mailserver? I received the confirmation email for all of my IPv4 addresses, just not my IPv6 (only) one...
[14:14] <Peng_> You have an IPv6-only mailserver? Why?
[14:16] <ryanakca> Peng_: because I do :)
[14:16] <LarstiQ> Peng_: less spam
[14:17] <LarstiQ> for now...
[14:30] <yofel> Hi, are there any plans to add Contents files to the PPAs? (so apt-file works with them)
[16:24] <CarlFK> I reported 3 bugs against dvgrab in lp before I found the dvgrab.sf.net (kino really) project tracker, and have sense reported my bugs there
[16:24] <CarlFK> how do I remove/clear the 3 from lp?
[16:29] <ScottK> CarlFK: Just link the upstream bugs to the ones you put in LP is the best plan.
[16:30] <CarlFK> I am not sure there is a 1:1
[16:31] <CarlFK> and I would have to browse 20 or so bugs on sf.net - way too much work for 0 value (unless you can explain how this would help
[16:31] <ScottK> The way it would help is that if the bugs are linked, then when the bug status changes on SF, people tracking the LP bugs for the package see the change.
[16:32] <ScottK> Often this can be a key to look for a patch or an update to a new version.
[16:32] <CarlFK> pretty sure they are closed on sf
[16:32] <ScottK> If you don't want to mess with it, just mark them to invalid and say why.
[16:33] <CarlFK> invalid looked like the way to go
[16:35] <tgm4883> are the PPA's really backed up or is the build system hung again?
[16:35] <tgm4883> we have some packages that have been waiting to build for 16 hours
[16:59] <ripps> tgm4883: I think many of the servers were rerouted to help serve iso's for beta, but in the last hour things have sped up a little bit
[16:59] <tgm4883> ripps, ok, i'll just wait it out then
[16:59] <tgm4883> thanks
[17:08] <blueyed> Can I remove /srv/bazaar.launchpad.net/push-branches/00/00/35/1f/backup.bzr manually, so that I can upgrade this branch (lp:b2evolution)?
[17:25] <blueyed> hitchhiker let me do it. However.. rmtree takes a long time now already..?!
[17:27] <Peng_> My habit has been to move backup.bzr to .bzr. That's quick. ;)
[17:28] <blueyed> there's no "mv", and "rename" bails out.
[17:28] <Fly-Man-> Morning
[17:28] <Fly-Man-> I get this error message when trying to push a tree up
[17:28] <Fly-Man-> Permission denied (publickey). bzr: ERROR: Connection closed: Unexpected end of message. Please check connectivity and permissions, and report a bug if problems persist.
[17:28] <Fly-Man-> Where is it going wrong ?
[17:29] <Peng_> blueyed: What did rename do? Be aware that LP only allows you to have the top-level directories ".bzr" and "backup.bzr"
[17:29] <Peng_> .
[17:29] <LarstiQ> Fly-Man-: you don't have permission to ssh. Wrong username, wrong host, wrong key, something like that
[17:29] <Fly-Man-> uhm, how to fix ?
[17:29] <blueyed> Peng_: it bailed out with TooManyConnections error, then with "directory is not empty" on second try. I'm using hitchhiker.
[17:29] <Fly-Man-> I think it's the public key again ...
[17:30] <LarstiQ> Fly-Man-: that depends on what is wrong, so the first step is debugging that
[17:31] <blueyed> Peng_: given how slow "ls" is, it will take a while probably.. since rmtree probably deletes every file by itself (and each invocation takes as long as "ls" maybe)..
[17:31] <blueyed> Peng_: are you using hitchhiker, too, or something else?
[17:31] <blueyed> What's the sftp address for bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~blueyed/b2evolution/trunk-cvs/ ?
[17:31] <Peng_> blueyed: I used hitchhiker, yes.
[17:32] <Peng_> blueyed: That address, only with "sftp" instead of "bzr+ssh".
[17:35] <Fly-Man-> LarstiQ: You gotta love these messages
[17:35] <Fly-Man-> bzr: ERROR: KnitPackRepository('lp-46086288:///~flyman/fusionforge/translate/.bzr/repository') is not compatible with CHKInventoryRepository('lp-46086288:///~flyman/fusionforge/translations/.bzr/repository') different serializers
[17:36] <LarstiQ> that looks a bit confusing
[17:36] <Fly-Man-> You tell me :p
[17:36] <LarstiQ> Fly-Man-: why is it incompatbile with itself?
[17:36] <Fly-Man-> Yes, that's a good Q
[17:36] <Fly-Man-> and I have no clue
[17:37] <Fly-Man-> But I reran
[17:37] <Fly-Man-> and now it submitted
[17:37] <Fly-Man-> so that's working
[17:37] <Fly-Man-> (not the proper way but hey, I needed an empty branch)
[17:40] <Fly-Man-> thanks for the help LarstiQ :)
[17:40] <LarstiQ> ok :)
[17:41] <Fly-Man-> And another Q
[17:41] <Fly-Man-> I have a branch setup that contains translations
[17:41] <Fly-Man-> and I already did the 1 time update
[17:41] <Fly-Man-> when I active the import from branch
[17:41] <Fly-Man-> will it only update those that I previously asked
[17:42] <Fly-Man-> or all the translations that are found in the branch ?
[21:27] <mwhudson> mdke: hi
[21:28] <mwhudson> oh nm
[21:29]  * mwhudson stabs thunderbird in the head
[21:43] <mdke> mwhudson: :)
[21:44] <mwhudson> mdke: there's an irony in the fact that i didn't see your message that you found branch mail in your spam folder
[21:44] <mwhudson> mdke: because thunderbird marked it as junk
[21:45] <mdke> mwhudson: that is awesome
[21:45] <mdke> thunderbird has a sense of humour :)
[21:45] <mdke> mwhudson: thanks very much for looking into that though, and sorry to have wasted your time in the first place
[21:45] <mwhudson> mdke: i am not seeing the joke currently, it has to be said
[21:45] <mwhudson> mdke: no worries
[21:46] <mwhudson> of all the reasons to quit a MUA, trigger happy spam marking seems a daft one
[21:47] <mdke> I don't check my spam folder as much as I should though
[21:47] <mdke> gmail had started marking quite a lot of Launchpad mail as spam
[21:47] <mdke> things like membership changes and such
[23:05] <csotelo> hi people... please just a question
[23:06] <mwhudson> csotelo: don't ask to ask, just ask
[23:06] <csotelo> i have updated my pgo key, but as you can see on http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x697EFAB88E831D60BBFB22649E3D5761F8554F6B&op=index
[23:06] <csotelo> it continuos expired...
[23:07] <csotelo> i have done a gpg sync with keyserver.ubuntu.com, without solve problem
[23:07] <csotelo> my question is: how can solve this problem?
[23:09] <csotelo> mwhudson, that is my problem... could you give a hand plz
[23:10] <mwhudson> csotelo: i'm afraid i don't know
[23:10] <csotelo> :D
[23:10] <csotelo> :(
[23:11] <jpds> csotelo: "it continuos expired" - what do you mean by that?
[23:11] <csotelo> also when i update a project say permission denied...obvioulsy
[23:12] <csotelo> jpds, i have updated my gpg and i have not problems with other vcs...
[23:13] <jpds> csotelo: Don't you mean SSH keys instead?
[23:13] <jpds> Unless you're GnuPG signing your commits...
[23:13] <csotelo> but on launchpad when i try to update a project .. my command line sayme Permission denied "(publickey)"
[23:14] <csotelo> jpds, ... my ssh keys,... but it doesn't have expired time
[23:14] <csotelo> also when i do bzr lp-login myusername
[23:15] <csotelo> it get into lp without problems
[23:15] <csotelo> the problem is when i want to update my project
[23:16] <jpds> csotelo: Where does: bzr info --verbose - say that the branches push location is?
[23:19] <csotelo> jpds, mejor creare una nueva clave y vere que sucede


[07:53] <hrw> morning
[09:00] <lag> sebjan: Ping
[09:36] <cooloney> lag: sebjan is away on vacation i think.
[11:04] <lag> cooloney: When do we get TIs patches
[11:08] <cooloney> lag: i didn't get it yet
[11:08] <cooloney> lag: i will ping them today
[11:11] <lag> I'm happy to do it
[11:11] <lag> How do they normally send them to you?
[11:12] <cooloney> normally, sebjan will prepare the branch in their integration tree
[11:12] <cooloney> and ask me to pull
[11:12] <cooloney> but i think this time ndec will help to do that
[11:15] <lag> cooloney: Let me know if you want me to take care of it
[11:21] <cooloney> lag: no problem, man. just send out an email to ndec and added you in
[11:22] <lag> I received it
[14:18] <rsalveti> lag: did you get the new TI release?
[14:18] <lag> rsalveti: Nothing yet
[14:18] <lag> Perhaps ndec will know more?
[14:19] <ndec> lag: hi. sorry I am not too responsive these days...
[14:19] <ndec> lag: many people on vacations, too many things to cover ;-)
[14:20] <lag> ndec: Do you think they will be done sometime this week?
[14:21] <ndec> lag: i have seen cooloney email. i received the new BSP based on .35, but I haven't had time to look into it.
[14:21] <lag> ndec: We have a few users (and developers) who are struggling with a few things we're waiting for bugs for
[14:21] <lag> bug fixes*
[14:21] <ndec> lag: this branch: http://dev.omapzoom.org/?p=integration/kernel-omap4.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/L24.9 has the latest BSP, but it does not support panda yet, only blaze.
[14:22] <lag> Panda is the key one for us
[14:22] <ndec> lag: i am planning to have a branch with this .35 OMAP4 BSP + ubuntu patches + panda sometimes this week.
[14:22] <lag> ndec: Thanks
[14:22] <lag> rsalveti: There's your answer :)
[14:23] <ndec> rsalveti: hi... does it answer your question?
[14:25] <rsalveti> lag: ndec: yep, thanks :-)
[14:55] <dyfet> I found a simple armel ftbfs much earlier this morning...libgd2
[14:57] <asac> dyfet: have a fix? ;)(
[14:57] <asac> or you mean "found a fix" ;)
[14:57] <dyfet> yes
[14:57] <asac> dyfet: if you want a sponsor at best file a bug attach the debdiff and let me or ogra know
[14:58] <dyfet> I have to go back to the doctor this morning, but it was a quick one to fix, so i am going to do that shortly
[15:02] <ogra> libgd2 ? doesnt that need a fix in libc ?
[15:02] <ogra> iirc it fails on the wrong dh_shlibs setting currently
[15:24] <asac> ogra: dunno. didnt look at the build failure ... ;)
[15:24] <ogra> i think it was the one
[15:24]  * asac goes looking
[15:24] <ogra> it looked like a bug in dh_shlibs
[15:24] <asac> yeah feels like it
[15:24] <ogra> but it turned out that glibc provides broken info to dh_shlibs
[15:25] <asac> yes, if libc still mentions not existing package then thats the case
[15:25] <asac> but maybe dyfet managed to not use that part at all ;)
[15:25] <ogra> so its effectively a glibc bug, only if we cant fix it there in time we should add a hack, else just wait
[15:25] <asac> (which wouldnt be that bad either ... of course libc needs to be fixed)
[15:25] <ogra> right, if he has a better fix thats indeed better :)
[15:25] <asac> right
[15:26] <asac> ogra: and he should open a bug for the libc issue if its not reported and make it release critical so doko actually fixes it ;)
[15:26] <ogra> i think its open upstream or in debian somewhere, i dont have the bug #'s here atm
[15:27] <ogra> we added the hack in karmic already (same issue back then)
[15:28] <ogra> bah, sigh, i just bought a new car ... only thing it needs are new tires .... and i just looked up the tire price for that size of tires ... seems thats additional 10% of the price of the car ... sigh
[15:39] <markos_> ogra: are you referring to the ld-linux3-dev override hack in d-shlibmove for libgd2?
[15:39] <ogra> markos_, xactly
[15:39] <markos_> if so, I found more packages with exactly the same problem -well, the debian ones, but I guess it might still be valid for ubuntu
[15:40] <markos_> namely ghostscript, graphviz and jbig2dec (plus libgd2 ofc)
[15:40] <ogra> yeah
[15:40] <lag> mpoirier: Works for me
[15:41] <ogra> we had probs with all these back in karmic and changing the ld-linux3-dev entry fixed all of them
[15:41] <markos_> fixed it in glibc?
[15:41] <mpoirier> lag: fantascit - I'll wait 'till GrueMaster has a chance to test it too.
[15:41] <ogra> no, in dh-slibs
[15:42] <markos_> oh, right, but the maintainer in debian opposes the change
[15:42] <ogra> which is right
[15:42] <GrueMaster_> mpoirier: I'll try to get to it sometime today.  I'm in the middle of a Lucid>Maverick upgrade test atm.
[15:43] <mpoirier> GrueMaster: that would be great.
[15:43] <markos_> well, I used a simple "fix" in the same packages, I just added an override in each package, though the best solution would be ofc to fix glibc
[15:43] <mpoirier> GrueMaster:  I'll push the change in when you confirm it works for your.
[15:46] <amitk> anybody know how to "resume" booting after one has been dropped to the initramfs shell?
[15:52] <ogra> amitk, ctrl-d
[15:52] <ogra> though if you are past a script thats essential and it doesnt get re-executed it might fail
[16:08] <amitk> ogra: it does :-/ with "chvt: can't open console"
[16:08] <ogra> that sounds more like a devtmpfs or udev prob
[16:09] <ogra> do you have devtmpfs compiled in ?
[16:09] <ogra> and is udevd running
[17:05] <lag> ogra: If I have a kernel and I run update-initramfs on it them mkimage it, should it just work?
[17:06] <ogra> lag, if you wait until my just uploaded initramfs-tools is in the archive you only need update-initramfs
[17:06] <ogra> no mkimage or anyrthing needed ;)
[17:07] <lag> So what's this for then:
[17:07] <lag> mkimage -A arm -O linux -T ramdisk -C none -a 0 -e 0 -n initramfs -d ./initrd.img-* ./uInitrd
[17:09] <ogra> that will give you a uImage in $(pwd)
[17:20] <lag> A uImage?
[17:20] <lag> Not a uInitrd?
[17:21] <lag> ogra: ?
[17:34] <ogra> lag, err, indeed, uInitrd
[17:34] <lag> And that's what I want right?
[17:35] <ogra> no idea what you want
[17:35] <ogra> what do you plan to do ?
[17:36] <ogra> lag, if you want to actually use it, it needs to be copied into the vfat partition too
[17:38] <lag> ogra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/475518/
[17:39] <lag> This is what I'm doing
[17:39] <lag> Is it correct
[17:39] <rsavoye> any ideas for a stable kernel I can run on an XM board that seems to trigger segfaults ?
[17:39] <lag> ogra: Line 67-71
[17:40] <ogra> lag, yeah
[17:40] <lag> rsalveti: Would you mind rephrasing the question please?
[17:40] <lag> Hmmm
[17:40] <rsalveti> lag: rsavoye :-)
[17:40] <ogra> rsavoye, there are bad ram chips on a good bunch of the XMs
[17:41] <rsavoye> is that my problem ? I can;t compile anything
[17:41] <ogra> rsavoye, if you have one of these, no kernel wont help
[17:41] <rsavoye> arg.... so much for free hardware :-(
[17:41] <ogra> i dont know exactly how to tell them apart
[17:41] <lag> rsalveti: :)
[17:41] <rsavoye> I'd love to know, it's getting in the way of work...
[17:41] <ogra> but there are two different manufacturers for the ram
[17:42] <ogra> one works, the other doesnt
[17:42] <rsavoye> Mine's got an 'A' on it
[17:42] <lag> rsavoye: I think it will only affect you if you are using >255.9MB RAM
[17:42] <rsavoye> I've got 512M, can I limit it to 256 but at 1Ghz ?
[17:42] <ogra> which he likely does when compiling
[17:43] <ogra> you could try booting with mem=
[17:43] <rsavoye> I'm using micheal1's C4, but now there are two of trying to compile at the same time...
[17:44] <ogra> well, XM is pre-production HW, dont expect it to work flawless yet
[17:45] <rsavoye> this was supposedly post production... :-(
[17:45] <rsavoye> ogra: how to boot with mem= from the monitor ?
[17:45] <ogra> there are no "post production" XMs yet
[17:46] <rsavoye> ah....
[17:46] <ogra> you need to change the cmdline in boot.scr (if your image has one, no idea what you use over there)
[17:46] <ogra> else you are doomed to serial console :)
[17:47] <rsavoye> I can live in the serial console no problem if it stops crashing :-)
[17:47] <ogra> just for setting the mem= option i mean :)
[17:48] <rsavoye> that's what I was going to try, just gotta figure out the command line
[17:49] <ogra> in ubuntu the source for boot.scr is stored in /boot/boot.script, you can just change it and run sudo flash-kernel and reboot, not sure how it is on the linaro images
[17:50] <rsavoye> I should be running stock maverick
[17:51] <ogra> stock maverick from one of the alpha releases ? that should work with the ubuntu method above
[17:52] <rsavoye> yes, alpha-2 I believe
[17:52] <lag> ogra: So I can download the daily build, run that script on it (where uImage is my own kernel) and it should work?
[17:53] <ogra> lag, how would the update-initramfs be executed ?
[17:53] <ogra> (line 67)
[17:53] <ogra> i assume you run that script on your x86 host ?
[17:53] <lag> Yeah
[17:53] <ogra> then it wont work
[17:54] <lag> Oh?
[17:54] <ogra> the initramfs needs to be rolled inside the rootfs
[17:54] <rsavoye> ogra: flash-kernel run on the host or the target ?
[17:54] <ogra> rsavoye, all run in a booted beagle
[17:55] <rsavoye> don't see it, let me go look for it
[17:56] <ogra> lag, you would at least need to chroot into the rootfs and run it there, but it will try to install the modules from the kernel package which is indeed not installed inside your rootfs
[17:56] <ogra> since you work with raw uImage files
[17:57] <ogra> lag, if you only rebuild existing kernels and dont fiddle with modules etc i'd just omit the initramfs building completely
[17:57] <ogra> doing it in a cross way is some effort
[18:02] <rsavoye> ogra: what package is flash-kernel in ?
[18:02] <lag> ogra: NP - thanks
[18:02] <ogra> rsavoye, flash-kernel :)
[18:03] <rsavoye> I need more coffee....
[18:04] <rsavoye> You are currently running the Community Kernel edition  ?
[18:04] <ogra> i'm running the linux-omap or the linux-omap4 metapackages
[18:04] <rsavoye> should I remove /etc/flash-kernel.conf ?
[18:04] <ogra> depending on the board/image i run
[18:05] <ogra> no, /etc/flash-kernel.conf is needed so flash-kernel finds the vfat
[18:05] <ogra> (which holds bootloader and kernel)
[18:05] <rsavoye> ah, thanks. Maybe I should try linux-omap too
[18:07] <ogra> rsavoye, not on the XM ....
[18:08] <ogra> rsavoye, the XM doesnt find it's SD card currently with the -omap kernel, dont even try it
[18:09] <rsavoye> ok, thanks for stopping me before it was too late :-)
[18:10] <rsavoye> ## Executing script at 80200000
[18:10] <rsavoye> Bad data crc
[18:10] <rsavoye> oops...
[18:11] <rsavoye> time to reinstall from scratch I guess
[18:13]  * ogra calls it a da
[18:13] <ogra> y
[18:14] <rsavoye> guess I'll try alpha-3 this time
[18:26]  * XorA wishes he could just get meeting requests in non garbled forms in linux :-(
[18:56] <rsavoye> oh well, maverick alp[ha-3 won't boot on an XM
[19:25] <GrueMaster> mpoirier: Test kernel is booting fine on my 4G Class 2 SD Card.  :D
[21:58] <rsavoye> dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.35-14-omap (--configure):
[21:58] <rsavoye>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
[21:58] <rsavoye> ah, "Cannot find mtd partition 'Kernel'"
[22:35] <GrueMaster> rsavoye: That's an interesting issue.  Can you try running update-initramfs and possibly flash-kernel separately to see which is hitting this?  I suspect it may be flash-kernel.
[22:35] <rsavoye> after it reboots, it just hung on me...
[22:37] <rsavoye> yes, Cannot find mtd partition 'Kernel' comes from flash-kernel
[22:38] <GrueMaster> I wonder if I am hitting a similar issue with my lucid>maverick upgrade test (which I restarted and is still running).
[22:40] <GrueMaster> Are you running a maverick image?
[22:42] <jcrigby> rsavoye:does /etc/flash-kernel.conf exist?
[22:45] <rsavoye> nope
[22:47] <jcrigby> update-initramfs sources that file to setup UBOOT_PART
[22:47] <jcrigby> UBOOT_PART is what flash-kernel needs to know the boot partition device to update the kernel and initrd
[22:47] <rsavoye> no wonder it won't work :-)
[22:48] <rsavoye> can I just create the file ?
[22:48] <jcrigby> yes but update-initramfs may still not call flash-kernel because of another but there
[22:48] <jcrigby> s/but/bug
[22:49] <jcrigby> echo UBOOT_PART=/dev/mmcblk0p1 > /etc/flash-kernel.conf
[22:49] <rsavoye> I'm just trying to get my XM to run long enough to actually compile something
[22:50] <jcrigby> so you are trying a kernel upgrade?
[22:50] <jcrigby> update
[22:50] <jcrigby> ?
[22:51] <jcrigby> not sure newer kernel will fix anything
[22:55] <rsavoye> I get Creating backups of uImage and uInitrd... cp: cannot create regular file `/tmp/m
[22:55] <rsavoye> Failed to create initrd image.
[22:55] <rsavoye> what's weird is it wants to reinstall the kernel I'm already running
[22:57] <jcrigby> all flash-kernel does is mount your boot partition and copy kernel and initrd there
[22:58] <jcrigby> if you are already running the same kernel then this wont help anything
[22:58] <jcrigby> are you running ubuntu or linaro now?
[22:59] <jcrigby> I assume linaro since it missing the flash-kernel.conf file
[23:00] <rsavoye> I think linaro, but the repository seems to point to maverick
[23:00] <rsavoye> I couldn't get alpha3 to boot, so tried the linaro image, which at least booted
[23:03] <rsavoye> it's so much more fun to be on the bleeding edge like this :-)
[23:06] <GrueMaster> Odd.  I could have sworn either ogra or rsalveti had tested Alpha 3 on XM.
[23:07] <GrueMaster> Ah, found it.  Bug 613855.
[23:07] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 613855 in jockey (Ubuntu) "Jockey adds outdated debian repo for xerox from openprinting.org (affects: 1) (heat: 39)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613855
[23:08] <GrueMaster> Err, that's not the right bug.  weird.
[23:08] <GrueMaster> Bug 613855
[23:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 613855 in linux (Ubuntu) "omap3 beagle XM MMC card always comes up readonly (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613855
[23:08] <GrueMaster> Much better (or not, depending on your perspective).
[23:13] <rsavoye> GrueMaster: I'll gladly try alpha-3 again, but I reinstalled twice and it never booted
[23:14] <rsavoye> arg, build-dep is braindead
[23:15] <GrueMaster> I was looking at iso.qa.ubuntu.com.  According to the test results, it fails because the kernel is only seeing the microSD as read-only.
[23:47] <rcn-ee> rsavoye, that's probally my bad with the /etc/flash-kernel.conf, what am i missing in my images to help users switch between kernels.. My main motivation is to stop 'flash-kernel' when i don't want it to right to flash..
[23:48] <rsavoye> rcn-ee: I'm trying the linaro image of 2.6.35-14, course it just hung...
[23:49] <rcn-ee> if it hangs after 'uncompressing' it's basicly bombing on the lack of omap3630 stuff..
[23:50] <rsavoye> that time it hung running configure
[23:50] <rsavoye> that is the configure script for Gnash
[23:56] <rcn-ee> rsavoye, are you going to be around for a bit? got to disable a couple config things to get it built, but i almost have a latest git kernel..
[23:56] <rsavoye> yep, it's only 1700 here
[23:57] <rcn-ee> oh, your montain time.. cool central here so basicly the same..  usually everyone's from europe..
[23:58] <rsavoye> yep, mountain time. I live up at 9000 feet in the Rockies of Colorado
[23:58] <rsavoye> wow, somebody almost in my time zone ? :-)
[23:58] <rsavoye> we must be the only 2...


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[19:20] <daftykins> PM from an #ubuntu trouble-maker
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