[12:00] <beans> Hi. Can I control where apt-get -d downloads to?
[12:00] <WeirdAl> If I unmount it as root and re-mount it as me, it's owned by root.
[12:00] <linuxn00b> hey, guys I got a prob. I got a linksys wireless router and my ubuntu box is connected directly to it. but WinSCP can't ssh into it.
[12:00] <ubnuser> can anybody help me with this ?
[12:00] <stas> http://pastebin.com/271377
[12:00] <stas> that's my /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:00] <WeirdAl> I'll create a folder *under* /wine and use that.
[12:01] <webtoe> WeirdAl: that's where the umask option comes in. i think. try putting umask=000
[12:01] <jgeorgeson> ubnuser, just go to a page that needs flash, and it will install the plugin in your profile directory
[12:01] <ubnuser> k, i'll try :)
[12:01] <WeirdAl> I did mkdir /wine/.config as root and then chown me:me /wine/.config and it's still root's!
[12:01] <WeirdAl> Is that right for chown?
[12:02] <linuxn00b> anyone?
[12:02] <jgeorgeson> WeirdAl, so you umount /wine, edit fstab to have defaults,users, mount as yourself, and it's all owned as root?
[12:02] <djm62> linuxn00b: ssh into what, exactly?
[12:02] <jgeorgeson> WeirdAl, chown syntax looks fine
[12:02] <linuxn00b> my ubuntu box.
[12:03] <linuxn00b> I can ping it but thats it
[12:03] <djm62> is sshd installed and running?
[12:03] <jgeorgeson> linuxn00b, did you start sshd?
[12:03] <stas> how can I make gaim start up when I log in to Ubuntu?
[12:03] <linuxn00b> I belive so
[12:03] <jgeorgeson> stas, start gaim, then when you log out check the 'Save session' checkbox
[12:03] <djm62> stas: when you log out, leave gaim running, and save session
[12:03] <camcorder> stas: you need to add it to your session
[12:03] <stas> oh
[12:03] <stas> I never logout
[12:03] <WeirdAl> ...
[12:03] <jgeorgeson> stas, or go to System->Preferences->Session, click the startup programs, click add, and type in gaim
[12:03] <djm62> well, do it once :)
[12:03] <stas> I just end up ctrl-alt-backspcing
[12:03] <WeirdAl> Then why do you want it to start when you log in?
[12:04] <stas> but then it restarts
[12:04] <linuxn00b> jgeorgeson, I get this "sshd re-exec requires execution with an absolute path"
[12:04] <ubnuser> jgeorgeson, the plugin finder service is stuck :(
[12:04] <stas> and I have to start gaim everytime
[12:04] <stas> if I log out once
[12:04] <stas> will it start
[12:04] <djm62> yes
[12:04] <stas> from ctrlaltbackspaces?
[12:04] <WeirdAl> Log out once and save the session.
[12:04] <WeirdAl> ctrl-alt-backspace shouldn't log you out at all, but if it makes it reset then you'll log in with the last saved session.
[12:04] <jgeorgeson> stas, if you log out cleanly gdm should be there waiting
[12:04] <WeirdAl> :-\
[12:04] <djm62> stas: but why not create a logout button on the desktop, or even a keyboard shortcut?
[12:05] <ubnuser> on the license arggment :(
[12:05] <_phate_> Whats a good Gnutella/Gnutella2 client for Ubuntu/Linux
[12:05] <ubnuser> nm, works :)
[12:05] <omeg> Can anybody help me upgrade from Warty to Hoary? The installation instructions on the Wiki didn't work because of an error.
[12:05] <stas> cool
[12:05] <stas> can I make gaim start minimized?
[12:05] <webtoe> omeg: what error?
[12:05] <djm62> omeg: what error?
[12:05] <webtoe> jinx
[12:05] <camcorder> stats: that depends on if gaim support that, but afaik it does not
[12:05] <_phate_> omeg, recommend just formating and restoring
[12:05] <djm62> (EE) double jinx
[12:05] <omeg> Well, I changed the config file like mentioned here: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GuideToHoary
[12:06] <djm62> but what error message do you get?
[12:06] <omeg> But then I started the synaptic package manager, and it told me it couldn't find the files specified.
[12:06] <omeg> "error 2"
[12:06] <WeirdAl> yo webtoe
[12:06] <WeirdAl> Now I can't mount it at all!
[12:06] <revelater> how do i play quicktime files?
[12:06] <omeg> "Couldn't stat source package list"
[12:06] <WeirdAl> wrong fs type, bad option etc.
[12:06] <webtoe> WeirdAl: It wasn't me!!! :-P
[12:06] <webtoe> what does the line look like?
[12:06] <djm62> omeg: can you type 'sudo apt-get update' and 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[12:07] <omeg> I'll try that, djm62
[12:07] <djm62> that should give you more info
[12:07] <john_> IHOP needs to do delivery
[12:07] <revelater> !!
[12:07] <revelater> how do i play quicktime files?
[12:07] <john_> I need eggs and pancake
[12:07] <WeirdAl> /dev/hda4 /wine ext2 defaults,user,umask=000 0 0
[12:07] <john_> pancakes*
[12:07] <WeirdAl> I suppose I should add noauto
[12:07] <_phate_> Revelator: I dunno if you can
[12:07] <omeg> It just downloaded a bunch of files, djm, and then it gave me this error:
[12:07] <WeirdAl> but that's not the point
[12:07] <omeg> Want me to paste in PM?
[12:07] <djm62> revelater: no need to repeat...mplayer works, with win32codecs
[12:07] <webtoe> revelator: with mplayer
[12:08] <linuxn00b> anyone?
[12:08] <omeg> Anyway, this was what it said:
[12:08] <Ubuntu_Beginner> I am trying to install ubuntu but the installation aborts at the install base part every time. Any body can help?
[12:08] <omeg> Fetched 873kB in 2s (307kB/s)
[12:08] <omeg> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:08] <omeg> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[12:08] <kanuha> Help, I downloaded a .deb package and don't know how to install it.
[12:08] <webtoe> WeirdAl: should be users for a start. try that
[12:08] <Burgundavia> kanuha, what are you looking to install?
[12:09] <omeg> Hmm
[12:09] <djm62> omeg: is another process using it? quit synaptic or whatever
[12:09] <Sionide> http://sionide.net/ubuntu.mp3
[12:09] <kanuha> knetstats I downloaded the .deb package
[12:09] <WeirdAl> The other lines say user
[12:09] <omeg> I just redid the process after closing synaptic =)
[12:09] <WeirdAl> So I'm putting user :-\
[12:09] <webtoe> ok dokey
[12:09] <omeg> It seems to be working now. But strange that Synaptic couldn't do it.
[12:09] <webtoe> :-)
[12:09] <revelater> ok
[12:09] <omeg> Thanks. =)
[12:09] <Burgundavia> kanuha, sudo dpkg -i knetstats.deb
[12:09] <Ubuntu_Beginner> I am trying to install ubuntu but the installation aborts at the install base part every time. Any body can help??
[12:09] <WeirdAl> Anyway, it lets me mount it when the umask isn't wrong.
[12:09] <desrt> stas; poke
[12:09] <Burgundavia> kanuha, always try and use syntaptic first
[12:09] <omeg> These servers are pretty fast.
[12:10] <stas> hey desrt!
[12:10] <omeg> 340KB/s...
[12:10] <desrt> i have your shit :)
[12:10] <djm62> omeg: no probs....synaptic will probably start being happy again when you've upgraded
[12:10] <stas> :)
[12:10] <stas> score
[12:10] <desrt> i changed the password to "secret"
[12:10] <omeg> Terminals are cool, though, djm62 ;)
[12:10] <revelater> hey guys, when i try to su in a terminal my password doesn't work...
[12:10] <stas> I managed to grab it off elsewhere again
[12:10] <WeirdAl> If I do it as ext3 will I have more luck, maybe?
[12:10] <stas> heh
[12:10] <desrt> ah
[12:10] <stas> I don't really need it much anymore
[12:10] <stas> :))
[12:10] <desrt> ok
[12:10] <stas> you can trash it all
[12:10] <desrt> i'll nuke it then :)
[12:10] <revelater> desrt DONT TELL EVERYONE!!!
[12:10] <stas> speaking of nuking
[12:10] <xTina> hi
[12:10] <ubnuser> i try to do apt-get install w32codecs but it tells me i cant find it (i added universal), why?
[12:10] <stas> can I make the defaust nautilus behavior to nuke files
[12:10] <neemz> Hey folks is there any way I can do a net install of ubuntu?
[12:11] <stas> instead of storing it in that shitty trashbin
[12:11] <omeg> I wonder if there's an ED2K client for Linux...
[12:11] <stas> omeg: xmule :)
[12:11] <sladen> neemz: yes.
[12:11] <webtoe> WeirdAl: not sure. There is a slight difference with user and users as the latter will work for everyone. Though i think its only to do with mounting and not the owner of the device
[12:11] <omeg> I'm gonna go find that right now. Thanks.
[12:11] <xTina> Anyone around with experience with fully-automated Ubuntu installations, maintaining large lab setups and stuff?
[12:11] <revelater> omeg: emule, its more stable
[12:11] <desrt> stas; the best you can do is to add a menu item to'delete' instead of 'move to trash'
[12:11] <neemz> sladen: is it complex or as easy as a net install CD?
[12:11] <Burgundavia> ubnuser, www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[12:11] <desrt> stas; but shift+delete will also delete files (instead of trashing them)
[12:11] <stas> :|
[12:11] <WeirdAl> Yeah, made no odds.
[12:12] <stas> yeah I know the shift-delete thing
[12:12] <stas> ;p
[12:12] <stas> in Windows, you can disable the trashbin altogether
[12:12] <desrt> i don't think there is any way to make it so 'delete' deletes
[12:12] <kanuha> Burgundavia, I get this error when trying that command: status database area is locked by another process
[12:12] <revelater> hey guys, when i try to su in a terminal my password doesn't work...
[12:12] <ubnuser> i'll check it, tn
[12:12] <ubnuser> x
[12:12] <zxc_> hey, I have a quick question, everything you download using synaptic and it installs, where does it go? like a folder whise? (the installed apps)
 omeg: emule, its more stable <-- wait, isn't xmule THE emule for linux?
[12:12] <desrt> i like the trash :)
[12:12] <stas> it even goes away from your desktop
[12:12] <stas> I hate the trash ;p
[12:12] <imperfect-> Anyone know what I can do to make samba shares visible to MAC OS X ?
[12:12] <stas> I always delete stuff to free up space
[12:12] <Burgundavia> kanuha, need to shutdown synaptic first
[12:12] <stas> but then forget to empty the trash!
[12:12] <sladen> neemz: configuring the PXE can be a pain the first time.  After that it's dead easy
[12:12] <revelater> omeg: sorry, amule is the name
[12:12] <imperfect-> My windows shares were visible without any work -- I wonder if there is some sort of smb announcing I need to be doing?
[12:12] <omeg> I see
[12:13] <martinhj> revelater, if you need to use su instead of sudo, use: "sudo su"
[12:13] <omeg> I'll try both
[12:13] <camcorder> stas: you can make that w/ nautilut too
[12:13] <djm62> zxc_:  /var/cache/apt/archives, I believe
[12:13] <revelater> omeg: you cannot, one will delte the other
[12:13] <camcorder> stats: /apps/nautilus/preferences/enable_delete
[12:13] <camcorder> make that true
[12:13] <revelater> omeg: unless you try one at a time
[12:13] <WeirdAl> gah
[12:13] <martinhj> revelater, in gnome, Ubuntu dosn't use gksu, but gksudo
[12:13] <martinhj> sudo is the thing;-)
[12:14] <revelater> ok
[12:14] <webtoe> Mac os x can read samba shares just fine
[12:14] <revelater> i just like using su
[12:14] <webtoe> as long as you are part of the same workgroup
[12:14] <WeirdAl> How can I format this partition as ext3?
[12:14] <WeirdAl> I'd use qparted but it's shite and won't.
[12:14] <WeirdAl> It'll only do ext2
[12:14] <revelater> omeg: if xmule starts acting wierd on you switch over to amule
[12:14] <SeamusLP> revelater:  When I need root for extended periods of time I just do sudo bash
[12:14] <martinhj> revelater, but then do as I said (sudo su), then you can use your ordinary password and su at the same time
[12:14] <kyncani> WeirdAl: mke3fs, or tune2fs -j
[12:15] <revelater> i see
[12:15] <scizzo> WeirdAl: tried using fs2ext3 or something like that?
[12:15] <imperfect-> Anyone know?
[12:15] <scizzo> mke2fs might be the one
[12:15] <zxc_> hmm, when you install something of synaptic should it go into your taskbar?
[12:15] <kyncani> WeirdAl: mke2fs -j  or tune2fs -j
[12:15] <zxc_> as lots of mine haven't
[12:15] <WeirdAl> Never heard of any of them :-) Guess that's why I'm here asking.
[12:15] <zxc_> yet they're installed
[12:15] <kanuha> Burgundavia, thank you, that worked
[12:15] <webtoe> imperfect-: : mac os x can read samba shares fine
[12:16] <djm62> zxc_: not necessarily...sometimes that wouldn't make sense
[12:16] <webtoe> you just need to ensure that the mac is in the same workgroup
[12:16] <Burgundavia> kanuha, synaptic and dpkg all use the same package db and only one can use it at a time
[12:16] <djm62> (other times, packages aren't as integrated as they ought to be)
[12:16] <imperfect-> I know that I can, but I cannot browse for them in the same way that I could when it was being shared under XP.
[12:16] <zxc_> djm62, so how do I install them?
[12:16] <catfly> hi everyone
[12:16] <imperfect-> I assume there is a annouce config or something I need to change.
[12:17] <djm62> zxc_: you can add a launcher to the taskbar...what are you talking about?
[12:17] <WeirdAl> thanks kyncani
[12:17] <webtoe> you should be able to. I'm afraid i'm not too good at samba config. But it is the server end you need to check up on. Or was the mac the server?
[12:17] <kyncani> WeirdAl: np :)
[12:17] <djm62> zxc_: (which program, I mean)
[12:17] <imperfect-> Yeah, I'm not using smbclient
[12:17] <imperfect-> Except only to make sure the share is actually there
[12:18] <imperfect-> plus I checked the smb.conf directly
[12:18] <imperfect-> and it looks fine
[12:18] <zxc_> basically, I've downloaded loadsa stuff of synaptic of which a lot hasn't shown up in taskbar, though it says it installed. I want to know where I can access these programs from (not there .deb packages) so I can use the djm62
[12:18] <linuxn00b> anyone know anything about winscp??
[12:18] <zxc_> *use them
[12:18] <cusco> hi... I have this big problem...
[12:18] <imperfect-> linuxn00b: use sftp ;_
[12:18] <per02> is it just me or there haven't been any updates for horay since the release?
[12:18] <cusco> my cd-burner device is not recogniosed
[12:18] <imperfect-> linuxn00b: it'll do the same thing
[12:18] <djm62> zxc_: you can type their name's from any console
[12:18] <cusco> I can read cd's but I can't burn them
[12:18] <cusco> please help me
[12:18] <kyncani> zxc_: dpkg -L  will tell you which files a pkg installed
[12:18] <djm62> per02: that's the idea of releasing it
[12:19] <zxc_> djm62, isn't there anywhere where I can see them listed as icons I can click :/
[12:19] <per02> djm62: k
[12:19] <zxc_> almost like program files
[12:19] <Agrajag> updates, other than security patches, go into breezy's repos now
[12:19] <imperfect-> djm62: I can undertand why he woudl expect them to pop up in a menu.
[12:19] <catfly> I need help getting gok (onscreen keybd) working in hoary - error says needs libatk-bridge ?? I apt-got libatk* but still no joy ??
[12:19] <linuxn00b> well what I was is to transfer the files quickly but I can't see to get pas 1MBps going from WinXP to ubuntu. but ubuntu to ubuntu goes at like 9ish
[12:19] <imperfect-> zxc_: you could browse to /usr/local/bin or whereever it is ;)
[12:19] <omeg> hmm
[12:19] <omeg> how do I install xmule
[12:20] <omeg> there's an installation document but it contains all kinds of talk about compiling stuff
[12:20] <kanuha> zxc, you can open up a terminal window and type the program name in and most of the time it will open.
[12:20] <imperfect-> catfly: sounds stupid but you could try ldconfig
[12:21] <djm62> zxc_: or you can right-click on the panel ->Add to Panel->Run Application, so you create an icon for it (if you use it frequently)
[12:21] <Burgundavia> omeg, apt-get install xmule
[12:21] <catfly> omeg, xmule is in apt-get, if you can't find it with sudo apt-cache search then add more repositories.
[12:21] <omeg> okay, thanks
[12:22] <hackeron> is there anything like prustat for dtrace on linux? (http://users.tpg.com.au/adsln4yb/DTrace/prustat_example.txt)
[12:22] <catfly> imperfect, with ldconfig do I need any options? do I need to find the package to make a link ??
[12:23] <WeirdAl> dudes, it says "uid=1000" is an unrecognised mount option.
[12:23] <WeirdAl> :-(
[12:23] <catfly> what is **error** could not locate registry ??
[12:23] <kyncani> WeirdAl: -o uid=1000  i think
[12:24] <webtoe> thats coz it should be umask=000!! I don't know why it won't work. always did for me
[12:24] <WeirdAl> kyncani, In fstab?
[12:24] <webtoe> sorry ranting
[12:24] <webtoe> catfly: no options, just run ldconfig
[12:24] <kent> will "sudo dpkg -i package.deb" upgrade a package if i already have an older version? I downloaded wordpress 1.5 from debian unstable and wanted to try it, and I have wordpress 1.2.2 from ubuntu hoary already installed. (with none configuration, I have not used it yet..)
[12:24] <Burgundavia> kent, yes it will, provided the new version doesnt have newer deps
[12:25] <CygnusX1> Hello.  I need ubuntu to pass its hostname to my DHCP server on boot.  I have been directed to man interfaces.  After reading this and looking at /etc/network, I am thouroughly confused.
[12:25] <catfly> webtoe, ran ldconfig seemed ok but still no joy with gok, cant find module libatk-bridge and error couldn't locate registry ???
[12:25] <kyncani> WeirdAl: nope. which fs are you trying to mount ?
[12:25] <will> whats the best program for running an FTP server in ubuntu
[12:26] <kent> Burgundavia, thanks. It seems it broke it now (wordpress showed nice with the ubuntu version, but hey.. this deb is from debian unstable, so i cant expect it to work without some problems..)
[12:26] <WeirdAl> I'm trying to mount /dev/hda4, which is ext3, as /wine, but owned by me rather than by root.
[12:26] <WeirdAl> webtoe, your umask=000 also doesn't work.
[12:26] <webtoe> oh well
[12:27] <kyncani> WeirdAl: that's not the way. You mount ext3 by root and change files ownership by root
[12:27] <WeirdAl> But I want that partition to be used for wine. Hence /wine
[12:27] <WeirdAl> But I can't configure wine as root, so I need user access on /wine
[12:27] <webtoe> CygnusX1: you need to check what dhcp program is being used and then look in its man page
[12:27] <kyncani> WeirdAl: well, make some /wine/youruser directory and give youruser ownership to it
[12:28] <webtoe> CygnusX1: for example, dhcpcd uses the -h flag to send the hostname
[12:28] <will> whats the best program for running an FTP server in ubuntu
[12:28] <WeirdAl> OK...
[12:28] <CygnusX1> webtoe, It is a default install.
[12:28] <webtoe> hmm well i'm on my mac box at the moment. I think ubunutu uses dhclient so use the manpage for that
[12:28] <webtoe> think you set it in the config files under /etc/
[12:29] <bobi> hi everyone
[12:29] <WeirdAl> Ah, that worked. Thanks kyncani
[12:29] <WeirdAl> I couldn't do that with ext2
[12:29] <kyncani> WeirdAl: ;)
[12:29] <WeirdAl> thanks for trying webtoe :-)
[12:29] <catfly> tried ldconfig -v and no libatk-bridge ???
[12:29] <kyncani> WeirdAl: sure you could (for the ownership thing)
[12:29] <WeirdAl> No ... i tried it :(
[12:29] <abarbaccia|sleep> hey guys - im about to try out ubuntu for the 1st time, anything i should watch out for with install?
[12:29] <webtoe> no worries WeirdAl
[12:29] <WeirdAl> It just stayed as root.
[12:30] <kyncani> WeirdAl: you've just made some error trying it is all
[12:30] <CygnusX1> webtoe, Okay...I am going to poke around again and see if I can figure out which script is running the dhcp client.
[12:30] <WeirdAl> Probably.
[12:30] <WeirdAl> Oh well, it works now
[12:30] <WeirdAl> I'm off to bed. Cheers guys/gals
[12:30] <webtoe> night night
[12:31] <kyncani> abarbaccia|sleep: nope, install went very well for me here :)
[12:31] <tm|werk> hi.  what pkg should I install to get java in mozilla firefox?
[12:31] <kyncani> abarbaccia|sleep: _nothing_ to do (i mean it)
[12:31] <webtoe> CygnusX1: well just come back if you want some more help. Might be able to help...... possibly
[12:31] <aimaz> tm|werk, there is a non-free script that can help you with that
[12:31] <aimaz> hang on I'll find it for you
[12:31] <tm|werk> aimaz: that installs the sun jre?
[12:32] <tm|werk> thx
[12:32] <catfly> tm|werk, easy howto for java in firefox here : http://ubuntuguide.org/
[12:32] <aimaz> oh, no just java in firefox
[12:32] <aimaz> not the jre
[12:32] <zxc_> how do I change the fonts/style of the text underneath the icons on the desktop?
[12:32] <CygnusX1> webtoe, Thank you,
[12:32] <aimaz> i don't think it is sun java
[12:32] <abarbaccia|sleep> what version of firefox is with ubuntu
[12:32] <kyncani> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[12:32] <kyncani> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[12:32] <kyncani> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[12:32] <kyncani> ||/ Name           Version        Description
[12:32] <kyncani> +++-[12:32] <kyncani> ii  mozilla-firefo 1.0.2-0ubuntu5 lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
[12:32] <Shuddertrix> version 1.0.2
[12:32] <kyncani> ooops, sorry
[12:32] <ubnuser> why can't i SSH to my unbuntbu from outside ? i get error after entienr logon
[12:33] <Shuddertrix> I believe that is the lastest for linux, IIRC
[12:33] <ubnuser> it tells me it can't login via any of the auth methods ?
[12:33] <aimaz> tm|werk, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22646&page=10&pp=10
[12:33] <dcraven> Oh lovely it looks as though breezy defaults to gcc 4.0.. That's gonna bring on some pain. lol
[12:33] <webtoe> lol
[12:33] <tm|werk> aimaz: thanks
[12:34] <will> whats the best program for running an FTP server in ubuntu
[12:34] <webtoe> i personally am excited by all the new fortran compiling we will be able to do
[12:34] <kyncani> ha ha
[12:34] <DracosX> will: best is (as always) subjective
[12:34] <aimaz> tm|werk, wait, it's this one you want http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22860&page=1&pp=10
[12:34] <ubnuser> can anybody help me fix ssh so i can login ?
[12:34] <dcraven> webtoe, I'm all for 4.0, but for example module compiling won't work as I doubt the kernels are using it just yet.
[12:34] <tm|werk> aimaz: ok :)
[12:35] <aimaz> tm|werk, I assume you know how to bunzip and run a script
[12:35] <dcraven> webtoe, simple symlink will revert it, but the new folk  don't know that.
[12:35] <webtoe> dcraven: it was sarcasm! though i didn't realise that their would be problems with the kernel. I just assumed they would have to recompile everything
[12:35] <stpere> hey
[12:35] <webtoe> oh i see the problem
[12:36] <Shuddertrix> proftpd works great in cases when vsftpd just won't. vsftpd is rock-solid in ubuntu, very fortunate for that
[12:36] <webtoe> people who upgrade will need to upgrade alllll their binaries
[12:36] <webtoe> is that right?
[12:36] <dcraven> webtoe, I just tested my ndiswrapper howto from scratch and got a fatal error trying to modprobe the module because of it.
[12:36] <ubnuser> anybody here knows how to use ssh  ?!?
[12:36] <tm|werk> ubnuser: what's going with ssh?
[12:36] <stpere> ubnuser: yeah, kindof
[12:37] <dcraven> webtoe, I wondered what all those weird new warnings were during the compile that I never noticed before... haha
[12:37] <webtoe> ubnuser: i have used it as well but need details on the box you're ssh'ing to etc
[12:37] <ubnuser> i did apt-get install ssh
[12:37] <ubnuser> it installed, but when i try to login
[12:37] <ubnuser> i put username (from remote machine), and get, coudltn connect on any auth method
[12:37] <ubnuser> (it didnt even ask for passwd)
[12:37] <aimaz> ubnuser, that is the client, you need sshd or ssh-server i think
[12:38] <aimaz> oh nm me
[12:38] <webtoe> dcraven: i was reading an article on the new gcc4 yesterday and I get the feeling that it won't be until later releases until we see the exciting stuff. Like amazing optimizations
[12:38] <dcraven> openssh-server I think it is.
[12:38] <ubnuser> the documentation said ssh installs the server (it made a key)
[12:38] <ubnuser> so what is the ssh package contain?
[12:38] <DracosX> yes, the ssh package depends on openssh-server
[12:38] <dcraven> webtoe, yeah, but the crowded forums and IRC channels will be immediate ;)
[12:38] <webtoe> oh no...... i'll have to stay off irc for a bit
[12:39] <ubnuser> is there somewhere i need to set ip range or so?
[12:39] <ubnuser> cause i can ssh localhost
[12:39] <ubnuser> but i can't ssh from remote host
[12:39] <DracosX> just make sure port 22 is open (unless you've changed the default port) and it should work "out of the box"
[12:39] <webtoe> ubnuser have you configured ssh using any of the files in /etc?
[12:39] <ubnuser> it dosnt work
[12:40] <ubnuser> webtoe: no
[12:40] <webtoe> k hang on a sec
[12:40] <ubnuser> k
[12:40] <dcraven> webtoe, don't get me wrong, it's a good thing as far as I'm concerned. Just a heads up to the support folks in here for those types of errors.
[12:40] <webtoe> true true
[12:42] <ubnuser> webtoe ?
[12:42] <gratuit> does anyone know if there are any free dns servers out there? my ISPs dns seems to go out on a regular basis.....
[12:42] <webtoe> yes i'm just looking at some documentation for you
[12:42] <dcraven> Anyone wanna proofread my ndiswrapper howto?
[12:42] <DracosX> gratuit: <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:42] <webtoe> dcraven: I can do in a sec or two if you want
[12:42] <gratuit> DracosX: that's easy to remember
[12:43] <kent> gratuit, dyndns.org?
[12:43] <gratuit> DracosX: thanks
[12:43] <dcraven> webtoe, thanks --> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[12:43] <DracosX> no problem
[12:43] <gratuit> kent: I was thkning more on the lookup side
[12:43] <MrNonchalant> woot, firestarter rocks
[12:43] <abarbaccia> hey, what version of firefox is included with ubuntu 5.04?
[12:43] <MrNonchalant> I don't know why it isn't included by default, true there aren't any open ports by default but that doesn't mean the user won't quickly open some
[12:44] <MrNonchalant> abarbaccia: 1.0.2
[12:44] <DracosX> abarbaccia, 1.0.2
[12:44] <DracosX> doh
[12:44] <DracosX> lol
[12:44] <ubnuser> abarbaccia, 1.0.2
[12:44] <kyncani> gratuit: you may look into /etc/bind/db.root also
[12:44] <abarbaccia> MrNonchalant: thanks, DracosX ubnuser
[12:44] <ubnuser> i just need to know how to open sshd to outside ocnnections
[12:44] <akk> djm62: Still there?  I finally got ubuntu installed, but I'm having trouble figuring out what tool I need to get it to see the network card.
[12:45] <yoink> quit
[12:45] <yoink> exit
[12:45] <kyncani> akk: how do you know it does not see the network card ?
[12:45] <whiteknight> dcraven, looks good, found a spelling mistake (i think) on the last line... wike do you mean wiki?
[12:45] <akk> kyncani: ifconfig -a mentions the card but it doesn't have an IP address, so ifup probably hasn't run.
[12:45] <ubuntu> test
[12:45] <webtoe> ubnuser: you could see if this works for you http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/4/2001/10/2/7101
[12:46] <ubnuser> k, sec
[12:46] <Fazer> crimsun: hey
[12:46] <akk> kyncani: "Network Tools - Devices" says "Network Devices not found" and clicking on Configure doesn't seem to change anything.
[12:46] <kyncani> akk: either edit /etc/network/interfaces, or there is a graphical app in gnome menu "system"
[12:46] <lunitik> akk: wireless?
[12:46] <akk> lunitik: No, wired.
[12:47] <lunitik> akk: what card?
[12:47] <lunitik> akk: using DNS?
[12:47] <lunitik> DHCP *   (I'm tired)
[12:47] <akk> kyncani: It's a 3com cardbus card, should use 3c59x
[12:47] <webtoe> dcraven: looks good here also. I'll have a closer look after texted my girlfriend. She just interrupted me!
[12:47] <lunitik> akk: that module loaded?
[12:47] <akk> lunitik: I have a dhcp server available, though I'd rather set a static address.
[12:47] <whiteknight> dcraven, also its probably best you mention that they now need to go System->Administration->Networking
[12:47] <lunitik> akk: lsmod | grep 3c59x
[12:48] <whiteknight> dcraven, to set up their card...
[12:48] <kyncani> akk: if ifconfig -a shows the card, then it is recognized. Set it up  either edit /etc/network/interfaces, or there is a graphical app in gnome menu "system"
[12:48] <dcraven> webtoe, I'll fix the typo.
[12:48] <akk> kyncani: The module is loaded.
[12:48] <lunitik> akk: ahh, ok... /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces are correct?
[12:48] <lunitik> akk: can you ping localhost?
[12:48] <webtoe> dcraven: don't give me the credit, it was whiteknight who noticed i think!
[12:48] <dcraven> whiteknight, okay, I'll mention it but I don't know how to use it. I thought the WifiHowto that I linked to would look after the setup.
[12:49] <akk> lunitik: There is no /etc/resolv.conf, though oddly there's a directory called /etc/resolvconf
[12:49] <ubnuser> he doesnt seem to have a proper solution there..
[12:49] <whiteknight> dcraven, yeah okay, didn't follow the link i have to admit
[12:49] <akk> lunitik: "Network unreachable" pinging even localhost.
[12:49] <dcraven> err.. Sorry whiteknight. I'll fix the typo. Both your nicks start with w... heh
[12:49] <whiteknight> dcraven, glad you wrote one, was looking yesterday for the old howto
[12:49] <akk> lunitik: /etc/network/interfaces has no entries, not even for localhost.
[12:49] <lunitik> akk: ahh... I don't have a resolv.conf either... breezy? working prior to breezy?
[12:50] <whiteknight> dcraven, just seemed to have disappeared
[12:50] <dcraven> whiteknight, yeah it went 404 prior to the Hoary release.
[12:50] <ubnuser> any1 has any idea how to setup ssh to work with other computers (to connect ot it)
[12:51] <dcraven> I suppose I should mention in it that after a kernel upgrade it'll have to be recompiled.
[12:51] <whiteknight> dcraven, okay, well thanks again, you're gonna help a lot of people now
[12:51] <whiteknight> dcraven, nah i think thats a different matter
[12:51] <dcraven> whiteknight, no problem. I thought it was a good idea since it's a popular question.
[12:52] <akk> lunitik: I could just edit resolv.conf on my own and probably get it working.  But I was hoping that a normal user could get ubuntu up on one of these laptops without being an ubergeek.
[12:52] <whiteknight> dcraven, perhaps cause confusion, if they want to upgrade then they'll search out a howto on that
[12:52] <Fazer> mhmm
[12:52] <lunitik> akk: are you running breezy currently though?
[12:52] <dcraven> whiteknight, yeah maybe I'll wait until a new kernel comes out and people start complaining about losing their connection.
[12:52] <Fazer> I feel tired
[12:52] <webtoe> hmmm ubnuser you'll need to check you sshd_config file i think
[12:53] <t> I've the got the same problem described at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19671 how can I fix it now?
[12:53] <whiteknight> dcraven, but i reckon that most people won't upgrade untill breezy comes out in oct
[12:53] <ubnuser> webtoe: the question is which setting...
[12:53] <akk> lunitik: Sorry, I didn't understand that question.  Is breezy the next after hoary?  This is the hoary release CD.
[12:53] <webtoe> i'll have a look hang on a sec
[12:53] <dcraven> whiteknight, I'm on breezy right now... Lot's of people will catch wind that it's available and jump on it. You're right though I'll hold off for now.
[12:54] <whiteknight> dcraven, same, no problems yet :)
[12:54] <aimaz> ubnuser, do `ps -e | grep sshd` to make sure it is running
[12:54] <webtoe> ubnuser: in your /etc/sshd_config file, is there an AllowUsers line?
[12:54] <whiteknight> dcraven, to tell you the truth i reckon wireless cards are the biggest problem on this channel
[12:54] <webtoe> and is your username there?
[12:55] <dcraven> whiteknight, none here either except for the gcc 4.0 thing. I should maybe mention that too... I dunno.
[12:55] <ubnuser> aimaz: i can connect localy, so yes
[12:55] <Lemonzest> any idea when the cd's will be shipped?
[12:55] <aimaz> ubnuser, oh yeah sorry
[12:55] <webtoe> whiteknight: they're the biggest problem on all channels. On slackware its even worse as you have to step people through compiling it and explaining what compiling is
[12:55] <ubnuser> webtoe: no, altough i can login with a user localy
[12:56] <whiteknight> dcraven, haven't compiled anything yet, breezy is already quite something, mid way through an upgrade of 29 packages
[12:56] <whiteknight> dcraven, am learning python to put together a gui for ndiswrapper
[12:56] <imperfect-> damnit!
[12:56] <webtoe> ah yes of course you can. didn't read the next couple of lines ubnuser. hang on will be back with more suggestions
[12:56] <lunitik> akk: what was the last thing you said to me?
[12:57] <FC-tooki> which version of xfce runs on ubuntu??? (please send the direct link with the last version)
[12:57] <akk> lunitik: That I'm running the hoary release cd.  I don't know what breezy is -- is it next after hoary?
[12:57] <dcraven> whiteknight, yeah, of which one of those upgrades is a symlink from /usr/bin/gcc to /usr/bin/gcc-4.0. Try compiling ndiswrapper with that and loading it into your stock kernel. Not gonna happen.
[12:57] <lunitik> akk: yeah... I though I had a /etc/resolv.conf prior to upgrade... guess not
[12:57] <whiteknight> dcraven, i luckly have a native driver for my card :) good old zd1201 that cost me 15
[12:57] <dcraven> whiteknight, nice. A GUI would be welcomed no doubt. I'm writing an IM and personal wiki in Python.
[12:58] <dcraven> whiteknight, you are one of the lucky few.
[12:58] <joshua__> Hey.  What program do I need to run an rpm?  No Ubuntu package for limewire.
[12:58] <karltk> anybody been afflicted by eternal disk reads when waking up after apm suspend?
[12:58] <joshua__> er deb package i should say. w/e
[12:58] <whiteknight> dcraven, getting it to work on ppc was perhaps a different matter
[12:58] <dcraven> whiteknight, no doubt.
[12:58] <lunitik> joshua__: actually there is.. but 'alien --to-deb some.rpm'
[12:58] <lunitik> joshua__: then 'dpkg -i some.rpm'
[12:59] <whiteknight> dcraven, python seems to be the language of choice...
[12:59] <dcraven> joshua__, is Limewire not java? Does it only come in RPM?
[12:59] <joshua__> lunitik:  Awesome.  Thanks.  You say there is a deb package for it tho?  What repo?
[12:59] <whiteknight> Shuddertrix, happens to the best of us!
[12:59] <dcraven> whiteknight, well I torn between Mono and Python at the moment... But I really do like Python.
[12:59] <joshua__> dcraven:  Not sure.  RPM is the only thing I saw on there site, and I apt-cach searched a few repos looking for a limewire package.
[12:59] <chibifs> But... But!
[01:00] <lunitik> joshua__: eh... I thought there was... used to be, but I guess thats gone
[01:00] <chibifs> Mono is .NET! D:
[01:00] <Shuddertrix> Odd, though, how alsa always sounds cruddy past 77% in alsamixer..
[01:00] <whiteknight> dcraven, hmmm i'm not to sure about mono, gonna stick to python and also ubuntu like it alot
[01:00] <joshua__> k, cool.  Anyway, thanks.
[01:00] <wazoo> dcraven: try this command:     alien -d filename.rpm   -- it converts rpm to debian.
[01:00] <dcraven> whiteknight, yeah Ubuntu likes it.
[01:00] <chibifs> And .NET is Microsoft!.. And Microsoft tells people that Linux is the problem ;_;
[01:01] <dcraven> joshua__, http://ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[01:01] <webtoe> Shuddertrix: I think that happens because alsa allows you to push more actual power out your sound card. This causes interferance and noise to be more noticable
[01:01] <lunitik> chibifs: no... Mono and .NET are ECMA standards
[01:01] <chibifs> Bah. :P
[01:01] <] BreliC[> joshua__, Apollon is way better than limewire
[01:01] <tarzan_> hi
[01:01] <chibifs> Not enough research on my part then, sorry :D
[01:01] <] BreliC[> and i think it's in the ubuntu repo
[01:01] <dcraven> chibifs, I dunno 'bout that.
[01:01] <Shuddertrix> webtoe: Yeah, that sounds like it's the best explanation.
[01:01] <lunitik> ] BreliC[: most don't like mixing kde and gnome apps
[01:02] <ubnuser> anybody here using sshd, and knows how to enable connections from outside?
[01:02] <] BreliC[> lunitik, why sacrifice quality?
[01:02] <whiteknight> hey, anyone on breezy, have you noticed a change in focusing on windows, you have to click on the title bar to select a window?
[01:02] <stas> hi
[01:02] <stas> I have a problem
[01:02] <Shuddertrix> At least my speakers are of good quality, can really burst up the volume and bass on these little 2.1 speakers
[01:02] <webtoe> Shuddertrix: What I always do is leave the "Main" volume at >77% and then just use the PCM one. That can be put to max and down as muchas you want
[01:02] <tarzan_> dmix doesn't work with my hoary and an nforce2 chipset... i disabled esd but no i can't use two sound applications at the same time... any help please
[01:02] <stas> I cannot host any of my services!
[01:02] <dcraven> whiteknight, it's not like that here.
[01:02] <lunitik> chibifs: its cool, its even being advertised as a .NET implementation, but in reality, it is pretty different to .NET, especially considering Gtk# being part of Mono
[01:02] <stas> oh
[01:02] <dcraven> whiteknight, in GNOME anyway.
[01:02] <webtoe> whiteknight: isn't that an option in the window manager
[01:02] <stas> I am a moron!
[01:02] <stas> :)
[01:03] <Shuddertrix> webtoe: For my SBPCI128, setting master changes nothing..
[01:03] <lunitik> ] BreliC[: because it looks ugly?
[01:03] <whiteknight> dcraven, maybe i've played with something
[01:03] <Shuddertrix> PCM controls it all..
[01:03] <dcraven> stas, go easy on yourself ;P
[01:03] <] BreliC[> lunitik, bah, it's not that bad.  plus how pretty does it have to look to download?  ;)
[01:03] <lunitik> ] BreliC[: there is giftoxic for gnome folks
[01:03] <Shuddertrix> Been like that since I ever started using alsa. Pretty odd, but it's not a huge problem.
[01:03] <imperfect-> kay!
[01:03] <webtoe> whiteknight: under windowmaker there is an option for the focus to follow cursor and some other options like it. One was needing and explicit click on the window for focus
[01:03] <imperfect-> I give up!
[01:03] <imperfect-> What does daddy need to do to play mp3's?
[01:03] <] BreliC[> lunitik, any good?
[01:03] <lunitik> ] BreliC[: and giftui for that matter
[01:04] <lunitik> ] BreliC[: It works... Apollon and Giftoxic/Giftui all use the same backends  :/
[01:04] <] BreliC[> lunitik, does it connect to multiple networks as well?
[01:04] <] BreliC[> nice
[01:04] <webtoe> imperfect-: what are you trying to use to pplay mp3's?
[01:04] <lunitik> ] BreliC[: (giftd)
[01:04] <stas_> :)
[01:05] <imperfect-> webtoe: rhythmnbox
[01:05] <whiteknight> webtoe, yeah i found the gnome equivalent though its only for following the mouse, i use to be able to click anywhere in the window to select it
[01:05] <imperfect-> webtoe : but i guess i can install xmms
[01:05] <akk> What's this warning at login time that gnome won't work right if there's no network?
[01:05] <akk> Is hoary not suitable for laptops?
[01:05] <webtoe> imperfect-: you may need to install the gstreamer plugins
[01:06] <will> akk: yes
[01:06] <lunitik> ] BreliC[: like I said, it uses the same backends ... libgnutella etc are giftd plugins
[01:06] <dcraven> imperfect-, did you install gstreamer0.8-mad from universe?
[01:06] <imperfect-> dcraven: streamer is being held back it says
[01:06] <lunitik> ] BreliC[: Apollon is just a giftd client for KDE ...
[01:07] <tarzan_> it works when i start totem as root for example though...
[01:07] <lunitik> ] BreliC[: does nothing without a functional giftd server
[01:07] <akk> will: Yes, it's not intended for laptops?
[01:07] <imperfect-> I just did apt-get install gstreamer*
[01:07] <imperfect-> so
[01:07] <imperfect-> hopefully ;)
[01:08] <Xenguy> will: your answer was unclear actually
[01:08] <Xenguy> possibly
[01:08] <Xenguy> ;-)
[01:08] <will> akk: sorry! its suitable for laptops
[01:08] <dcraven> imperfect-, if it is held back it means you need to do a dist-upgrade.
[01:09] <akk> will: Don't laptops run pretty often without a network?  What does the warning mean, and can it be turned off?
[01:09] <FC-tooki> what is the extension of the installer of xfce4 on ubuntu???
[01:09] <imperfect-> dcraven: that's how I got to hoary to begin with.
[01:09] <will> of couse, some laptops even have a hard time with windowsxp, so dont expect everyting to work at once
[01:09] <akk> (Aside from the issue of whether a network actually can be configured at all on this style of laptop ...)
[01:09] <dantheman> i'm trying to extract a zip file, but it keeps telling me that i don't have permission, and i can't log in as root
[01:09] <imperfect-> Yeah, dist-upgrade does nothing
[01:09] <dantheman> i went into the terminal and did sudo -s -H
[01:09] <dcraven> imperfect-, well you may need to run it again.
[01:09] <dantheman> but it still won't let me extract my stuff there
[01:09] <imperfect-> dcraven: That's what I'm saying -- I just tried it again and it didn't do anything.
[01:10] <Xenguy> dantheman: sudo unzip <file>   ?
[01:10] <dcraven> imperfect-, okay.
[01:10] <dantheman> so i can't use the gui if i want to unzip to /usr/local/new directory?
[01:10] <will> akk: its just complaining about maybe not seeing a network interface card (NIC)
[01:11] <revelater> does anyone here use dadbiz?
[01:11] <dcraven> dantheman, I suppose you could if you ran file-roller as root. But I don't suggest unzipping it there anyway.
[01:11] <akk> will: I understand, but isn't that fairly common on laptops?
[01:11] <Xenguy> dantheman: no idea (but the CLI is yer friend :-)
[01:11] <dantheman> well, where do you usually install new programs?
[01:11] <revelater> ?
[01:11] <will> dantheman: this is dangerous but you can use it: sudo file-roller
[01:11] <dantheman> (i'm a big fat newbie)
[01:12] <imperfect-> CPU0: Temperature above threshold
[01:12] <imperfect-> CPU1: Temperature above threshold
[01:12] <imperfect-> CPU1: Running in modulated clock mode
[01:12] <imperfect-> CPU0: Running in modulated clock mode
[01:12] <imperfect-> I'm getting a lot of those enteries in my dmesg -- should I be concerned?
[01:12] <lunitik> dantheman: there really isn't a clear answer to that... the bins and libs and configuration files all go to different places, as defined in the .deb
[01:12] <dantheman> well, i just have a zip....it's for eclipse
[01:12] <dcraven> dantheman, if it's one that is not managed by apt, or autotools, I typically try to keep it in my $HOME directory personally.
[01:12] <revelater> imperfect- SHUT DOWN YOUR COMPUTER NOW!!!!
[01:12] <webtoe> is your CPU overclocked ? or a laptop?  its throttling back the speed of the cpu to avoid over heating
[01:12] <imperfect-> Nope
[01:13] <imperfect-> Just a p4 3.6ghz
[01:13] <will> akk: it sounds strange, but im afraid i have never ran linux on a laptop
[01:13] <dcraven> lol
[01:13] <imperfect-> Fan is spinning nice and fast too
[01:13] <webtoe> imperfect-: well either your fan is dieing so chip is heating up, the temp monitors on your board are reporting false times, or the temp that a warning is given at is too low
[01:13] <revelater> imperfect-: let it cool down after turning it off, then make sure that you haven't overclocked
[01:14] <revelater> or the proc is frying
[01:14] <dcraven> There are blinding flames and smoke coming from my computer. Is there a program for that?
[01:14] <revelater> imperfect-: whats your current room temp?
[01:14] <lunitik> hell, usually, having it run under stock speed is benificial for speed... and with tempreture issues, should try to underclock
[01:14] <imperfect-> revelater: I haven't overclocked.
[01:15] <imperfect-> and it's maybe 75 in here
[01:15] <whiteknight> dc
[01:15] <superted> is it possible to mount an ntfs partition with write access under ubuntu? (i know of the risks)
[01:15] <imperfect-> I mean
[01:15] <webtoe> dcraven: lol
[01:15] <imperfect-> Isn't that the way it's supposed to work?
[01:15] <imperfect-> if it gets hot throttle back?
[01:15] <Xappe> if the cpu is overheating the comp should power off automatically?
[01:15] <whiteknight> dcraven, the program you need is ndiswrapper solves everything ;)
[01:15] <revelater> imperfect-: turn off your computer, take off the case cover and touche the heatsink, if you cannot keep your inger on it comfortably, its too hot
[01:15] <imperfect-> I mean isn't it doing what it's supposed to do?
[01:15] <webtoe> supertd: no,
[01:15] <dcraven> haha
[01:15] <imperfect-> revelater: p4
[01:16] <imperfect-> s run insanely hot
[01:16] <revelater> they shouldn't
[01:16] <imperfect-> Is there a prog to tell me what temps currently are?
[01:16] <imperfect-> sides the bios?
[01:16] <revelater> all program rely on the bis for info
[01:16] <revelater> bios
[01:16] <akk> imperfect-: cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/something/temperature
[01:17] <akk> imperfect-: where "something" varies depending on your system
[01:17] <webtoe> lm_sensors is the prog you be needing
[01:17] <webtoe> uses the kernel to read the sensors on your board via whatever bus they use
[01:17] <akk> Try acpi first.  It's way easier than lm_sensors, if it works.
[01:18] <webtoe> for my comp they report strange temps and its a known problem with my chipset
[01:18] <webtoe> yes listen to akk. I think he's right as took me ages to get lm_sensors right under slackware
[01:18] <revelater> imperfect-: also, do you have a duel proc???
[01:18] <imperfect-> Thermal zone has nothing in it
[01:18] <dcraven> Man, mine's running at 49C.. That sounds hot.
[01:18] <imperfect-> revelater: nope, just HT
[01:18] <dcraven> mcphail, yay!
[01:18] <akk> Speaking of cpus running hot, anyone have any experience with semprons?
[01:19] <mcphail> dcraven, yay indeed!
[01:19] <imperfect-> I mean I'm not getting any weird performance issues
[01:19] <revelater> then your computer thinks it has two procs...
[01:19] <imperfect-> Just seeing those messages in dmesg
[01:19] <lunitik> dcraven: here, 40 C ... can't be that bad
[01:19] <whiteknight> dcraven, mine runs between 49 and 53
[01:19] <dcraven> lunitik, that's almost 10 degrees!
[01:19] <revelater> no, but amd also tends to run extremely hot
[01:20] <whiteknight> dcraven, well thats my athlon,
[01:20] <webtoe> i run at 49 - 60 depending on ambient temp
[01:20] <revelater> dcrave you mean 100
[01:20] <lunitik> revelater: this is an Athlon XP here... so far mine is the coolest stated tempreture  8)
[01:20] <webtoe> :P
[01:20] <akk> I have my sempron down to 59C right now with the side of the case off, but can't seem to get it much below that.
[01:20] <dcraven> whiteknight, oh.. Okay. This thing runs very hot to the touch (laptop) and I always wondered what the temp was. thanks for the tip akk.
[01:20] <dazed> whats up all
[01:20] <webtoe> mine's an XP...... just shameless overclocked....
[01:20] <revelater> lunitik, yah, but mine goes up to 150 f
[01:20] <dazed> whiteknight: i had a lockup today...but i think i know why cuz its been running strong from reboot
[01:20] <whiteknight> dcraven, mines a open boxed athlon desktop :)
[01:20] <dcraven> revelater, I meant 10 degrees difference.
[01:20] <declan> Greetings from Dublin. I've looked through a lot of posts here and there, about getting my dvd playback working, but I'm not getting anywhere.  The problem is that as soon as I put the dvd in the drive, the system mounts it as a CD-Rom.  I've tried doing symbolic links and all that, but to no avail.  Anybody want to try and help?
[01:21] <revelater> dcraven... ohh
[01:21] <imperfect-> Yeah I can't find lm_sensors in APT
[01:21] <toresbe> anyone here have Zepto laptops? I can't remember the brand of lappies they're based on...
[01:21] <declan> The error xine gives is "the source can't be read."
[01:21] <imperfect-> toesebe: sounds like a Yugo ;)
[01:21] <revelater> declan, you need libdvdcss
[01:21] <revelater> i think
[01:22] <declan> Have that.  Thanks
[01:22] <] BreliC[> is the FastTrack gift plugin not in the Ubuntu repos?
[01:22] <dcraven> declan, did you install libdvdcss2?
[01:22] <whiteknight> dcraven, while i'd hate to find out the temperature my ubuntu ibook reaches
[01:22] <webtoe> declan: have you tried other videoplayers as well?
[01:22] <declan> It used to work, then it stopped during one of the upgrades.  I have libdvdcss2, yes
[01:22] <dcraven> I should read before I type...
[01:22] <declan> I think I have all the relevant programs.
[01:22] <revelater> reinstall
[01:22] <webtoe> whiteknight: on your ubunutu ibook does it thrash the fans all the time?
[01:22] <revelater> xine and libdvdcss2
[01:23] <revelater> it MAY solve the problem
[01:23] <whiteknight> webtoe, nope, the fan only comes on when you start to put pressure on the processor
[01:23] <webtoe> I'm running the PPC live version (which is very very funky) and the fans are up and down like no bodies business
[01:23] <declan> Reinstall these?  apt-get remove and apt-get install?
[01:23] <declan> Might that help?
[01:23] <whiteknight> webtoe, hoary?
[01:23] <webtoe> could be coz i have a cd always running
[01:23] <revelater> use synaptic
[01:23] <webtoe> yep
[01:23] <whiteknight> webtoe, on warty that always used to happen
[01:24] <declan> I'll try that immediately.  Back in a moment.
[01:24] <whiteknight> webtoe, actually i'm on a later kernel, 2.6.11
[01:24] <whiteknight> webtoe, while you'll be on 2.6.10
[01:24] <Seq> does anybody know if there is a way to tell evolution to stop prompting me on my bad ssl certicicate?
[01:24] <webtoe> whiteknight: ah right. its not too big a deal for me since i'm using this live cd while the hard drive is dead awaiting to be fixed. is PPC linux good? worth a separate partition?
[01:25] <revelater> Seq, you could tell it whatever you want, its a matter of whether or not it will listen to you
[01:25] <dcraven> That's odd.. libdvdcss isn't in the breezy repo for some reason. Maybe it's not needed anymore.
[01:25] <revelater> :P
[01:25] <Xeon3D> webtoe, yup.
[01:25] <declan> I see a load of xine related progams.  Any one in particular?
[01:25] <webtoe> cool
[01:25] <whiteknight> webtoe, yeah, i now use it continuosly (well cause my wireless dongle won't work on OS X and i've got wxWaste working)
[01:25] <declan> totem-xine?
[01:25] <revelater> declan, no not really, just plain xine if you can, or totem - xine
[01:25] <Seq> revelater: well right now it prompts me every time whether i wish to accept the certificate
[01:25] <whiteknight> webtoe, but it is very usuable
[01:25] <webtoe> i'm still a bit partial for the mac os x though. But i still love gnome.
[01:26] <webtoe> the only problem for me is that the airport extreme card isn't supported afaik
[01:26] <revelater> Seq, you checked the prefernces for anything that relates to certificates i take it?
[01:26] <dazed> my desktop has never looked cooler ^^
[01:26] <whiteknight> webtoe, i have a cheap wireless usb card instead, don't have airport
[01:26] <revelater> dazed, tell me how you did it, i wish to make my desktop look cool
[01:27] <dazed> revelater: i use fluxbox
[01:27] <dj28> fluxbox more like suxbox
[01:27] <revelater> dazed, i have problems with fluxbox...
[01:27] <dazed> ill upload a couple screenshots if ud like to take a look
[01:27] <whiteknight> webtoe, i still have OS X to watch dvds and also cause the battery lasts a hell of a lot longer
[01:27] <dazed> dj28: you have obviously never used it
[01:27] <dazed> revelater: like what sort of probs?
[01:27] <dj28> yea, i have
[01:27] <Seq> revelater: yeah. short of making my own CA, signing the key and importing my CA to evolution, im not sure how to get rid of the prompt
[01:27] <revelater> dazed, yes, and tell me how to customize it also please
[01:27] <plod> screenies of fluxbox?
[01:28] <dazed> its one of the lightest smoothest wm's
[01:28] <toresbe> fluxbox is cool for slow machines
[01:28] <dantheman> does anyone have any experience running eclipse on ubuntu?
[01:28] <revelater> Seq, and the prompt doesn't have a check box to let it ignore or stop asking?
[01:28] <toresbe> and *seriously* configureable
[01:28] <dazed> revelater: well theres a lot of work...
[01:28] <Seq> revelater: no check box
[01:28] <dazed> toresbe: it would run even better on a fast machine so that makes no sense
[01:28] <declan> Removing totem-xine, synaptic wants to remove gnome too.  Seems dangerous!
[01:28] <declan> I have no plain xine, strangely
[01:28] <dazed> toresbe: it looks 10x cooler then most res hogging ones
[01:29] <revelater> declan: that is both strange and dangerouse
[01:29] <toresbe> dazed: nope, it doesn't. that's a matter of opinion, and few people share it with you
[01:29] <toresbe> dazed: I have flux on my slow machines, and gnome on my fast ones
[01:29] <declan> Indeed
[01:29] <tarzan_> where do options for the alsa modules belong in hoary? /etc/modprobe.de/alsa-base or /etc/modutils/alsa-base?
[01:29] <dantheman> does ubuntu come with java?
[01:29] <aimaz> no
[01:29] <Burgundavia> dantheman, nope, but www.ubuntuguide.org has the info
[01:29] <dazed> toresbe: why...gnome is too comercial...i dont like things that look the same on every machine one of the reasons im on linux
[01:30] <dantheman> thank you
[01:30] <declan> java is a fine class of coffee
[01:30] <revelater> dazed, just tell me how to access everything i need and where to get all those cool slit things
[01:30] <toresbe> dazed: then make your own theme or something. Not likeing something because it's "too mainstream" is bs.
[01:30] <dantheman> i love java
[01:30] <dazed> if you have it installed everything you need to edit is in ~/.fluxbox
[01:30] <revelater> declan, ahh, but i cannot forsake my love of expresso
[01:30] <declan> With dark chocolate
[01:30] <declan> Espresso with sicilian blood oranges.    You just haven't looked.
[01:31] <declan> Alas, I am to be without dvds?
[01:31] <revelater> dazed is that where i put links to everything i need?
[01:31] <dazed> i have looked ... ha
[01:31] <revelater> declan, sorry
[01:31] <dazed> revelater: what links are u talking about
[01:31] <revelater> declan i am trying though
[01:32] <declan> Thanks.  It's a bit late for an espresso here.  Where are you?
[01:32] <revelater> dazed, i mean like, is the desktop for fluxbox in that folder?
[01:32] <dcraven> whiteknight, do you see libdvdcss in the breezy repo?
[01:32] <revelater> declan: USA pacific coast
[01:32] <dazed> revelater: thats where u edit your menu your themes your launching your apps your keys its where u edit everything that controls fluxbox
[01:33] <declan> So, you can still consume a few more before sundown
[01:33] <whiteknight> dcraven, can't look right now, am still apt-get dist-upgrading
[01:33] <whiteknight> dcraven, its nearly finished, then'll i;ll have a look
[01:33] <revelater> declan: and i will, trust me, and at un down i will play my pipes also
[01:33] <toresbe> dazed: then you haven't looked well enough.
[01:33] <dcraven> whiteknight, oh okay. I'm not seeing it... It's supposedly in multi/universe.
[01:34] <revelater> dazed: there are some programs to make editing easier right?
[01:34] <toresbe> dazed: and claiming that flux looks better than gnome is anyway nonsensical, you can use flux with gnome.
[01:34] <mdke> can anyone think of a reason that my wifi card would stop working, suddenly, without any modifications to the system, and not work again on reboot? If not, i'll start testing for hardware error
[01:34] <whiteknight> dcraven, looking now
[01:34] <toresbe> dazed: flux is a VM, gnome is a DE
[01:34] <revelater> i am an AW
[01:34] <declan> Good.  Kind people: what do you have in your "file browsing start location" setting in the media tab in xine?  I have /dev/cdrom.  Previously I had tried with /dev/dvd.
[01:35] <tbird> declan, should be something like /dev/hdc
[01:36] <revelater> declan: whatever it started with is what would be best, it no doubt has already detected your dvd player
[01:36] <abarbaccia> hey, are the ATI graphics cards supported nativly, or do i need to install ati drivers to get 3
[01:36] <abarbaccia> d acceleration
[01:36] <declan> Maybe there's a way to restore the default settings?
[01:36] <declan> Something I can delete?
[01:36] <whiteknight> dcraven, nope its not there
[01:36] <whiteknight> well i'm off, cya
[01:36] <dcraven> whiteknight, cheers, have a good one.
[01:37] <stas_> hi
[01:37] <Chicago60657> just installed ubuntu (hoary) last night...install routine never asked me for a root password...how do you logon / su as root?
[01:37] <stas_> can someone help me with a ubuntu problem?
[01:37] <Burgundavia> Chicago60657, ubuntu uses sudo
[01:37] <revelater> declan: try setting it to /cdrom
[01:37] <declan> I will!
[01:37] <Burgundavia> Chicago60657, see www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo
[01:37] <stas_> Chicago60657, just use your user pass.. it'll work
[01:38] <Chicago60657> ok
[01:38] <Chicago60657> thanks
[01:38] <Speedy2> Chicago60657: This is a commong question.  http://ubuntuguide.org/
[01:38] <revelater> declan, do you only have one cd/dvd drive or do you have two?
[01:38] <Speedy2> Guys, can we put that URL in the topic?
[01:38] <Speedy2> These questions keep coming up
[01:38] <neemz> woo installing hoary in vmware, lets see if its as good as people say
[01:38] <akk> Can ubuntu work with a 2.4 kernel, or does it need 2.6 because of udev and hal?
[01:38] <declan> I have just the one. Just as well, it's bad enough with just one.
[01:39] <Chicago60657> burgundavia, thanks for the links...it would be helpful if the installer clued users in on this during the installation process
[01:39] <Burgundavia> Chicago60657, hmm, good point
[01:39] <revelater> lol, its really not that hard, just when you are upgrading things can tend to go haywire
[01:39] <Chicago60657> but it's all good...i'll go read your links
[01:39] <declan> That didn't work though.   It is saying that there is no input plugin available to handle 'dvd:/'
[01:39] <toresbe> akk: why would you want to?
[01:39] <declan> But I do have libdvdcss2
[01:39] <revelater> declan: i suggest that, unless you are having bugs or problems, that you not upgrade...
[01:40] <declan> I am upgraded
[01:40] <mdke> decklin_, you using totem?
[01:40] <mdke> declan, ^^
[01:40] <akk> toresbe: Because 2.6 is unstable on my hardware, and I haven't found a fix yet (it goes into an infinite loop and doesn't respond to sysrq).
[01:40] <popeye> shoa
[01:40] <declan> totem and all the others.    Totem -xine wanted to take out my gnome.  But I'll try libdvdcss2 now.
[01:42] <toresbe> dj28: second, that's most likely in hardware.   Claim it not-working under warranty
[01:43] <dj28> hm
[01:43] <mdke> stas_, have you removed any packages?
[01:43] <stas_> in windows, I can hear msn sounds while listening to music, but in Ubuntu, I can't
[01:44] <stas_> mdke, it's been like this right from the start
[01:44] <toresbe> dj28: Didn't notice the "wireless" bit, sorry
[01:44] <declan> There's a fellow there who asked about su.  I can't answer very well, but I know that if you want a su you have to set it up.  The fellow was called Chicagoxxxx.
[01:44] <stas_> mdke, I've had Ubuntu for 2 days now
[01:44] <dj28> i thank you for the help
[01:44] <dj28> i will contact dell
[01:44] <stas_> mdke, and it's really bothering me now
[01:44] <mdke> stas_, hmm. i'm not great at audio, but there is a way: keep asking in here
[01:45] <mdke> another notch on the "ops for #ubuntu" argument
[01:45] <stas_> oh ok
[01:45] <stas_> does anyone here know about ubuntu audio?
[01:45] <stas_> i can't hear msn and xmms at the same time
[01:45] <stas_> :|
[01:46] <synd> ok, when i delete the logs on gaim.. is there ANY WAY POSSIBLE to get them back. im talking like FBI level shit. if so, how can I delete them to where they arent recoverable?
[01:46] <mdke> synd, burn the hard disk
[01:46] <Shuddertrix> Does webmin run good with Ubuntu?
[01:46] <tizen> stas_:  I have the same problem
[01:46] <stas_> :(
[01:46] <LinuxJones> stas_, open gstreamer-properties (make a not of what is selected for output sink) select alsa and press test
[01:46] <synd> mdke: buts its a 250GB hdd : (
[01:46] <mdke> synd, that is the only way to my knowledge
[01:47] <LinuxJones> stas_, make a note*
[01:47] <revelater> declan: so do you have just regular xine installed?
[01:47] <stas_> um
[01:47] <stas_> it's already alsa
[01:47] <mdke> LinuxJones, but does xmms use gstreamer?
[01:47] <thanatosys> hey hey hey
[01:47] <revelater> declan, if so, then try installing totem - gstreamer
[01:47] <synd> i wiped it, wrote 0's to all the sectors using OSX's disk utility
[01:47] <synd> that took like 4 hrs
[01:47] <stas_> and my xmms uses also
[01:47] <stas_> alsa!*
[01:47] <declan> revelater: I uninstalled libdvdcss2.  But now I have to go looking to reactivate the relevant repository.
[01:48] <LinuxJones> stas_, sorry I wasn't paying attention...as usual :D
[01:48] <tbird> whats up with Ubuntu and java ?
[01:48] <stas_> so the test button only works when xmms is off
[01:48] <synd> tbird: legal reasons
[01:48] <Shuddertrix> Anyone able to run webmin with Ubuntu?
[01:48] <stas_> tbird I figured that one after a while ;p
[01:48] <revelater> declan, it shouldn't be much harder than just installing it again
[01:48] <meff> anyone know of any icon packs in ubuntu for gnome? i tried gnome-extra-icons but they won't show up in the icon list
[01:48] <mdke> synd, i believe once data is written to a harddisk, it can always be got back in a darkroom
[01:48] <declan> I don't have the relevant repository activated.
[01:48] <tbird> yeah i know all that but why dont it work
[01:48] <declan> I've to recall what it is, and activate it.
[01:48] <synd> mdke: a darkroom? whatcha mean
[01:48] <stas_> tbird, here's what I did
[01:48] <mdke> synd, in a lab
[01:49] <neemz> lol I was just panicking thinking i'd got an old version of ubuntu as I was gnome 2.1 installing.. then realised it was 2.10 ;)
[01:49] <revelater> declan... why did you deactivate?
[01:49] <stas_> tbird, extract the java thing into /usr/java/jre(etc)
[01:49] <declan> I thought it could be safer to get updates from the official sources only.  Just a thought, one I now regret
[01:49] <tbird> yeah done that
[01:49] <tbird> in /usr/java
[01:49] <synd> mdke: im not sure if they would go that far.. hmm
[01:49] <mdke> declan, i do that
[01:49] <stas_> tbird, then, mv /usr/bin/java /usr/bin/java.bak
[01:49] <declan> It's not in multiverse, I've discovered
[01:50] <stas_> tbird, then, cd /usr/bin
[01:50] <thanatosys> hey does anyone have a working gdesklets setup
[01:50] <thanatosys> hey does anyone have a working gdesklets setup?
[01:50] <revelater> declan, taht could have been the problem there, synaptic needs all the sources of all the programs it has in order to build and upgrade dependancies
[01:50] <stas_> tbird, then, sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0(etc)/bin/java
[01:50] <mdke> declan, my opinion is that it is best only to use non official archives only when strictly necessary
[01:50] <stas_> and your java will work :))
[01:50] <declan> That was my thinking mdke
[01:50] <thanatosys> hey does anyone have a working gdesklets setup?
[01:50] <mdke> declan, try running "totem dvd://" in a terminal, and read the error message
[01:51] <declan> But they're not going to give you libdvdcss2.  I'll try that mdke.
[01:51] <mdke> thanatosys, wait awhile before repeating :)
[01:51] <mdke> declan, i just got libdvdcss2 and then commented out marillat
[01:51] <thanatosys> lol well i asked a while earlier and nobody answered
[01:51] <mdke> thanatosys, patience
[01:52] <tsume_> is breezy active yet?
[01:52] <mdke> declan, if totem tells you it has decoded the dvd, its not a libdvdcss2 problem
[01:52] <thanatosys> ive heard it killed gaim and gnome
[01:52] <thanatosys> or so it was said on the forujm
[01:52] <thanatosys> forum*
[01:53] <odyssey> thanatosys, breezy?
[01:53] <thanatosys> yea
[01:53] <mdke> heh you know, my wifi card has also stopped working
[01:53] <thanatosys> it had some issues with gaim and it spread into gnome
[01:53] <declan> Is it bad manners to paste in a pile of error messages here?  I suppose it is.  I don't know how to interpret what I'm reading.
[01:53] <thanatosys> its under the development section of the forum
[01:53] <mdke> declan, yeah use pastebin.ca
[01:53] <declan> How do I do that?
[01:53] <mdke> its a website
[01:54] <thanatosys> has anyone tried splashy yet?
[01:54] <thanatosys> its pretty sweet
[01:54] <LinuxJones> thanatosys, what is that ?
[01:54] <mdke> its usplash
[01:55] <LinuxJones> oh
[01:55] <thanatosys> but you dont compile a kernel
[01:55] <thanatosys> or anything like that
[01:55] <declan> I've gone to pastebin, and pasted.  Do I give it a name now, and post it?
[01:55] <mdke> userspace
[01:55] <thanatosys> just dpkg -i 3 things
[01:55] <thanatosys> works great
[01:55] <revelater> alright, has anyone used dadbiz?
[01:55] <mdke> decklin_, it should give you a url
[01:55] <mdke> declan, ^^
[01:55] <thanatosys> dadbiz?
[01:55] <declan> OK
[01:56] <revelater> bisiness management program
[01:56] <thanatosys> hmm cannot say as i have
[01:56] <revelater> business
[01:56] <thanatosys> let me look it up
[01:56] <declan> That's a great thing.  9575 is the code.
[01:56] <IRCCL2891639> hi guyz, i'm trying to get openoffice2 from ubuntu universe, but I got 404 error :/
[01:56] <revelater> well its in tgz form and that gui program doesn't do anything to help
[01:56] <stas_> is it possible to play sound from 2 sources at a time in linux?
[01:57] <dazed> stas_: yes using esd and stuff like that
[01:57] <spiderworm> so I've been running the 5.04 PR, and used to have tons of daily updates.  Since the 5.04 official release however, I haven't had a single update to do.  Do I need to change my mirrors list or something?
[01:57] <thanatosys> yea i noticed that
[01:57] <weazle> stas_: yeah man just uses multiple devices
[01:57] <thanatosys> and gdesklets doesnt f***in work
[01:57] <mdke> declan, looks like you have the wrong device
[01:57] <mdke> spiderworm, no that's fine
[01:57] <IRCCL2891639> hi guyz, i'm trying to get openoffice2 from ubuntu universe, but I got 404 error :/
[01:57] <spiderworm> mdke: ok great
[01:57] <declan> What do I do about this mdke?
[01:57] <revelater> hey guys how do i porperly unpack a tgz in commandline?
[01:58] <icecube_76> hi all  i used ubuntu 4.10 with my centrino notbook the battery used to last for 4 houre's but with 5.04 its only 2 houres any idea why?
[01:58] <mdke> declan, also it seems that libdvdcss2 isn't installed properly
[01:58] <thanatosys> tar -xzf filename.tgz
[01:58] <revelater> ahh
[01:58] <declan> That's now true, since I uninstalled it a few minutes ago, under advice.
[01:59] <declan> I'll try to reinstall it.
[01:59] <mdke> declan, yeah you need that
[01:59] <declan> Marillat, you say?
[01:59] <mdke> declan, read http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[01:59] <mdke> declan, you will learn loads very quickly
[01:59] <weazle> icecube_76: i think because linux runs all the processes at a lower level than windows would do
[02:00] <mdke> weazle, it was warty vs hoary
[02:00] <stas_> dazed how do I do it
[02:00] <icecube_76> weazle it's 2 houres less in time?
[02:00] <declan> I will.  I may have read that stuff before.  But I'm always learning new stuff.  Yesterday I read the dvd howto, and it meant very little to me, but it was interesting nonetheless.
[02:01] <mdke> declan, the other thing you need to do is find out what your cd drive is
[02:01] <thanatosys> try cat /etc/fstab for that
[02:01] <mdke> or dmesg
[02:01] <thanatosys> i like cats lol
[02:01] <revelater> allright, does anyone now of a business management program thats good, easy to use, handles billing and most importnatly is free?
[02:02] <dazed> stas_: in the options of programs that run sound tell em to run esd
[02:02] <thanatosys> well until that last part i was gonna say quicken
[02:02] <thanatosys> someone was talking about dadbiz or bizdad or somthing
[02:02] <revelater> that was me
[02:02] <thanatosys> o ok
[02:02] <thanatosys> lol
[02:02] <revelater> but i cannot get it to work
[02:02] <spiderworm> wow, just noticed that artsd is using 50% of my 64bit AMD processor, is that typical?  lol
[02:02] <spiderworm> this is crazy
[02:02] <declan> The cd drive is hdc, this I know.
[02:02] <thanatosys> hmm let me check
[02:03] <thanatosys> what was the program exactly
[02:03] <HrdwrBoB> that's because arts, not to put to fine a point on it, sucks
[02:03] <dazed> aww jesus my roomate turned on theOC
[02:03] <revelater> dadbiz
[02:03] <dazed> i never thought id be watching htis
[02:03] <odyssey> dazed, sucks for you
[02:03] <mdke> declan, well totem was looking at /dev/hda1 for some reason there, but sort out libdvdcss2 and see if it works, then check the configuration
[02:03] <LinuxJones> revelater, >> http://www.linuxcanada.com/
[02:03] <thanatosys> yeap
[02:03] <icecube_76> any programm to convert rm file to wav?
[02:03] <thanatosys> i like to call it
[02:03] <thanatosys> pretty white kids with problems
[02:04] <stas_> dazed it's just silent...
[02:04] <dazed> odyssey: ur tellin me
[02:04] <dazed> stas_: what 2 programs you trying to run sound at teh same time?
[02:04] <weazle> icecube_76: well, like fuck that it's development is equal to the development in processing capacity, it's only because some of us were a bit slow in noticing the development in linux for the past 10 years or so
[02:04] <neemz> whats the root password?
[02:04] <sysrq> icecube_76: use mplayer's pcm audio output
[02:04] <mdke> neemz, the root account is deactivated by default
[02:04] <thanatosys> downloading dadbiz now
[02:04] <^thehatsrule^> neemz, password is your user account
[02:04] <odyssey> dazed, at least you probably know what the hell the O.C. stands for
[02:04] <mdke> neemz, you can use the command "sudo" to give your first installed user root powers :)
[02:05] <revelater> heh, finally i have a reason to like canada.. if it works
[02:05] <neemz> ok, thanks
[02:05] <dazed> odyssey: oh but i do sadly...who doesnt
[02:05] <neemz> I guess I just sudo and set a root password then?
[02:05] <^thehatsrule^> nooo
[02:05] <sysrq> neemz: why? use sudo -s for a root shell
[02:05] <mdke> neemz, most people are happy without a root account
[02:05] <stas_> dazed, gaim and xmms
[02:05] <spiderworm> HrdwrBoB: if arts sux so much, what would you recommend I use instead?
[02:05] <mdke> spiderworm, gnome?
[02:05] <stas_> dazed, do I need to tell esd to use alsa specifically?
[02:05] <spiderworm> mdke: i hate gnome
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> spiderworm: I use a soundblaster live
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> and no sound server
[02:05] <thanatosys> man that dadbiz site has one slow dlownload rate
[02:06] <thanatosys> im on a 3mbit connection
[02:06] <odyssey> dazed, took my flat about 6 months to work it out, it dawned on us when someone on the show said Orange County
[02:06] <dazed> stas_: no tell them to use esd...tehy both have it in the prefferences section
[02:06] <thanatosys> and im getting 7kbs
[02:06] <stas_> I know
[02:06] <stas_> but
[02:06] <stas_> when I choose esd
[02:06] <stas_> it's silent
[02:06] <dazed> odyssey: kinda happened same way for me
[02:06] <icecube_76> can i install pcm audio output through apt-get
[02:06] <thanatosys> try it lol
[02:06] <dazed> stas_: are both on esd?
[02:07] <HrdwrBoB> esd uses OSS emulation through ASLA
[02:07] <HrdwrBoB> ALSA
[02:07] <revelater> thanatosys, yeah i know, it was pretty pathetic
[02:07] <thanatosys> o dam
[02:07] <thanatosys> its slowed down
[02:07] <thanatosys> wtf
[02:07] <thanatosys> lol
[02:07] <thanatosys> hopefully their software is faster
[02:07] <revelater> thanatosys, lol, i couldn't even get it to run...
[02:07] <stas_> yeat
[02:07] <thanatosys> i had this pc dling at 480kbs earlier while i was using bt on my other pc
[02:07] <stas_> yeah
[02:07] <thanatosys> its sad
[02:08] <thanatosys> well im gonna try lol
[02:08] <stas_> neither of them works
[02:08] <stas_> with just esd
[02:08] <icecube_76> sysrq: can i install pcm audio output through apt-get
[02:08] <stas_> how can I configure esd
[02:08] <thanatosys> man umm is their server slower than mine
[02:08] <stas_> to output to hw:0,2
[02:08] <dazed> stas_: make sure they are both set on esd restart both programs
[02:08] <thanatosys> my 450mhz celeron pumps data out faster
[02:08] <stas_> dazed yes
[02:08] <stas_> JUST xmms is running
[02:08] <dazed> and no sound?
[02:08] <stas_> no sound if I choose esd
[02:08] <revelater> thanatosys, their server is probably a p2 133 with 32 mb ram lol
[02:08] <stas_> it HAS to be device 2 though
[02:09] <thanatosys> haha i used to have one of those
[02:09] <thanatosys> but i added 32 more mb of ram and gave it to a guy in a nursing home to learn windows 98 on
[02:09] <thanatosys> lol
[02:09] <sysrq> icecube_76: it's a feature of mplayer, if you have mplayer installed you can use it, mplayer -ao pcm blah.rm
[02:09] <Shuddertrix> my P60 had 64mb of ram :P
[02:09] <revelater> thanatosys, i have an original 25 mhz computer
[02:09] <dazed> stas_: i know check to see if u have libesd0 and libesd-alsa0
[02:09] <declan> Right mdke, revelater, and other kind interested parties,  I've reinstalled libdvdcss2 and tried again, and nothing is happening.  Will I do the pastbin routine again.  You are to be admired for your patience!
[02:09] <icecube_76> sysrq: thanks
[02:09] <revelater> thanatosys, that was EVIL... lol
[02:10] <thanatosys> well he needed to learn lol
[02:10] <thanatosys> it was free to him
[02:10] <Shuddertrix> hmm
[02:10] <thanatosys> i wish i had of kept the graphics card though
[02:10] <stas_> ok
[02:10] <stas_> I did it
[02:10] <toresbe> tell me who's that-ah-writin
[02:10] <thanatosys> it was a good 32mb gforce 2
[02:10] <stas_> they're installed now
[02:10] <revelater> declan, yup, well i am clear out of ideas... i am kind of new to linux so....
[02:10] <toresbe> john the revelater
[02:10] <toresbe> tell me who's that-ah-writin
[02:10] <toresbe> john the revelater
[02:10] <Shuddertrix> i should install hoary on my K6-2 box. that would be cool..
[02:10] <toresbe> :P
[02:10] <revelater> yes
[02:10] <stas_> now what
[02:11] <IRCCL2891639> ubuntu rocks <-
[02:11] <Shuddertrix> too bad the monitor i have for it sucks, it's some sony thing with weird rates..
[02:11] <toresbe> Shuddertrix: for the longest time my deskie was a Compaq K6-2
[02:11] <revelater> toresbe, that is what my name is based on
[02:11] <IRCCL2891639> hi guyz, i'm trying to get openoffice2 from ubuntu universe, but I got 404 error :/
[02:11] <declan> 9576 on the pastebin scene.
[02:11] <Shuddertrix> very old too.. nothing but a monitor with bad refresh rates for a CRT
[02:11] <toresbe> revelater: then why did you misspell it?
[02:12] <declan> Wrote the book of the seven seals!
[02:12] <stas_> oooh
[02:12] <dantheman> where can i get a plugin to play mp3s in rhythmbox?
[02:13] <stas_> ok dazed thank you for your help
[02:13] <stas_> i did
[02:13] <stas_> esd -d hw:0,2 &
[02:13] <stas_> and it loaded fine
[02:13] <thanatosys> hey dadbiz dude i cannot find the files to compile
[02:13] <revelater> toresbe: i did not mispell it, this is actaully the correct spelling
[02:13] <thanatosys> wtf?
[02:13] <stas_> and the sound mixes now!
[02:13] <stas_> BUT, will it do the same after a reboot?
[02:13] <revelater> thanatosys
[02:13] <revelater> ha
[02:13] <toresbe> dictionary.com says otherwise
[02:13] <revelater> thanatosys: i was thinking the same thing
[02:14] <thanatosys> i say we find those bastards
[02:14] <thanatosys> and make them pay
[02:14] <thanatosys> how dare they ship out such software with no readme
[02:14] <revelater> thanatosys: lol
[02:14] <revelater> thanatosys: well.... is is free
[02:14] <thanatosys> no its not
[02:14] <revelater> toresbe, they are wrong
[02:14] <thanatosys> it cost me time
[02:14] <thanatosys> time i can never get back
[02:14] <toresbe> revelater: ...suuure
[02:14] <revelater> thanatosys: lol
[02:15] <declan> Time is a revelator too!
[02:15] <odyssey> dantheman, gstream mad
[02:15] <revelater> toresbe, no seriously, someone has a revelation
[02:15] <thanatosys> umm does anyone else get some serious issues when trying to install mplayer in hoary
[02:15] <thanatosys> ?
[02:15] <declan> Is mdke still in the house?
[02:15] <toresbe> revelater: who?
[02:15] <revelater> toresbe, no seriously, someone is a revelater
[02:15] <toresbe> revelater: :P
[02:15] <declan> John, or Time, I'm telling you,
[02:15] <toresbe> revelater: point me to a dickshunary that says so
[02:15] <revelater> toresbe, not revelator
[02:16] <revelater> toresbe, it an incorrect suffix
[02:16] <toresbe> revelater: point me to a dickshunary that says so!
[02:16] <dazed> revelater: its spelled different
[02:16] <will> Can I enable XDMCP from the command line instead of from the menu?
[02:16] <Jet2k5> did the ubuntu servers just crash?
[02:17] <revelater> toresbe, yah, well ain't isn't supposedly a word and its in the dict
[02:17] <Speedy2> will: umm, "export DISPLAY=<ip>:0.0
[02:17] <Jet2k5> I'm not getting any hits from any mirror
[02:17] <InitMass> if i get temp statistics from ACPI is it from the battery then?
[02:17] <toresbe> revelater: ain't is a word, and your example sucks :P
[02:17] <thesymbolicfrog> Um, the ubuntu web site loads fine on mine and I just downloaded something from them last night.
[02:17] <thesymbolicfrog> the servers should be fine
[02:17] <dazed> aint- the slang form of isnot
[02:18] <declan> If there's no sign of mdke, I'll be heading off soon.
[02:18] <revelater> toresbe, what about the hundreds of lingo words that they add on, not technically words, but they put them their with the most comon spelling, whether or not its correct.
[02:18] <The_RedBurn_>  /msg nickserv link The_RedBurn KPQEA5ZA
[02:18] <declan> It's 1:18 in this country and bed beckons.
[02:18] <declan> If mdke comes back thank him for his assistance.
[02:19] <declan> And good night to you all.
[02:19] <dazed> no need to get upset over it]
[02:19] <thanatosys> ok i seriously need some gdesklets help
[02:19] <revelater> toresbe, 3 years ago, when i first started using this nick, it wasn't in any dictionary, so i had first dibs anyways
[02:19] <toresbe> revelater: well, then they attempt to standardize it. and "revalator" is most certainly not slang
[02:19] <thanatosys> they just wont start
[02:20] <dazed> revalator has been in the dictionary probably since the english language
[02:20] <dazed> revelater on the other hand i dunno
[02:20] <revelater> no, revelations has, revelator or er has not
[02:21] <revelater> just pick up any older dictionary and you wont find it
[02:21] <Nigelenki> https://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RWXMappings
[02:21] <pune> hey can anyone help me configure my hp scanner?
[02:22] <odyssey> does xfce have a samba share browser or do i have to use nautilus?
[02:22] <dazed> whats a good place to upload images temporarily besides xull...(xull is down)
[02:22] <Nigelenki> I think xffm has one
[02:22] <darkaudit> pune: have you checked sane-project.org yet?
[02:22] <dantheman> how do i install gstreamer?
[02:23] <pune> darkaudit, for what?
[02:23] <pune> darkaudit, oh, yeah, i've done this before
[02:23] <odyssey> dantheman, you need to read the help documentation. use synaptic
[02:23] <pune> darkaudit, for some reason the file hplip.8.2 is missing a file or directory
[02:23] <pune> darkaudit, that's the error I get when I try to configure it
[02:23] <darkaudit> pune: ok... 'cause I know my scanner still won't work...
[02:24] <dantheman> i tried apt-get and it yelled at me...i'll try synaptic
[02:24] <odyssey> dantheman, are you using sudo?
[02:24] <dantheman> yup
[02:24] <dazed> whats a good place to upload images temporarily besides xull...(xull is down)
[02:25] <dantheman> i did $ sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[02:25] <The_RedBurn_> Hi, I've tried to rebuild metacity, but I get a 3.2 Mo file. What's wrong ?
[02:25] <odyssey> and it said?
[02:25] <dantheman> it told me the package is unavailable
[02:25] <pune> darkaudit, ok, for some reason, it's working now, all I did was move the installation files out of the folder it was in to the home directory and bang
[02:25] <pune> darkaudit, weird, thanks anyway
[02:26] <dcraven> The_RedBurn, rebuild?
[02:26] <robbie> hi all
[02:26] <robbie> is there a kernel source package anywhere for ubuntu ?
[02:26] <robbie> for the 2.6 kernel
[02:26] <robbie> i cant find it with apt-cache
[02:27] <dazed> revelater: im uploading those screen shots
[02:27] <Xappe> it's called linux source in ubuntu
[02:27] <revelater> dazed, cool
[02:27] <robbie> Xappe: ta
[02:27] <NotANick> http://www.signal-9.net/rtfm.mp3
[02:28] <dazed> revelater: http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs24&d=05155&f=gkrellShoot_04-14-05_112540.jpg
[02:30] <revelater> dazed: ooooo... aaaahhhhhhh...
[02:30] <revelater> dazed, but i still like that mushroom one....
[02:30] <dazed> revelater: yeah i have that one too but i dont  use it heres one too
[02:30] <dazed> revelater: http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs24&d=05155&f=gkrellShoot_04-14-05_011429.jpg
[02:31] <revelater> dazed: ohhh... now thats better :P
[02:32] <dazed> :)
[02:32] <The_RedBurn> I've tried to rebuild metacity, but I get a 3.2 Mo file instead of 400 Ko. Is it a make config problem ?
[02:33] <dcraven> The_RedBurn, I dunno what you are talking about. You are compiling metacity?
[02:34] <The_RedBurn> yes
[02:34] <dcraven> The_RedBurn, I think one comes on the Hoary CD precompiled.
[02:34] <The_RedBurn> yes, but the minimize animation is annoying
[02:34] <odyssey> NotANick, nice
[02:35] <dantheman> okay, i did gst-register-0.8
[02:35] <dantheman> and it looks like it installed a bunch of plugins
[02:35] <dantheman> but i still can't play any mp3s
[02:35] <odyssey> you need the mad gstremer plugin
[02:35] <InitMass> how do i get utf8 support in aterm. i've got it in xterm
[02:35] <odyssey> search for mad in synatpic
[02:35] <dcraven> The_RedBurn, no need to recompile to get rid of that.. Hold up.
[02:35] <The_RedBurn> dcraven, and of course it doesn't work with this big file
[02:36] <dantheman> all that shows up is libmad0 and libmad0-dev
[02:36] <dcraven> The_RedBurn, open gconf-editor and tick the box at /apps/metacity/general/reduced_resources and the animation will stop immediately.
[02:36] <The_RedBurn> dcraven, yes, I've tried to use the reduced_... flag, but it remove some other things
[02:37] <dcraven> The_RedBurn, oh. I see.
[02:37] <_chavo> it also removes opaque window moving
[02:37] <dcraven> _chavo, yeah I was hopin' he wouldn't notice.
[02:37] <dockane_> uaaah slashdot.com takes plenty of time
[02:37] <odyssey> dantheman, you need to have the universe repo enabled
[02:37] <_chavo> When I was still using gnome, I hacked the animation out also.
[02:37] <The_RedBurn> dcraven, the windows become wire when moved or when the upper status bar is selected
[02:37] <dcraven> The_RedBurn, and you are saying that the resulting binary is too big?
[02:38] <odyssey> dantheman, setting --> repositories under synaptic
[02:38] <dcraven> I'm out.. Food just arrived.
[02:38] <The_RedBurn> dcraven, yes, it's 3.2 Mo insted of approximatively 400 Ko
[02:38] <dantheman> i thought it added the universe repository on the install?
[02:39] <odyssey> its there just not enabled
[02:39] <dantheman> how do i enable it?
[02:40] <dantheman> wait, i think i found it on google
[02:41] <kyncani> The_RedBurn: tried stripping it ?
[02:41] <dantheman> well, it says i should see two repositories with a "universe" label, but i don't see them
[02:41] <The_RedBurn> kyncani, stripping ?
[02:41] <kyncani> The_RedBurn: strip <yourexe>
[02:41] <The_RedBurn> dantheman, go to /etc/apt/source.list
[02:42] <The_RedBurn> dantheman, and remove the #
[02:42] <The_RedBurn> kyncani, not yet, I try
[02:43] <dantheman> alright...i'll see if that did it
[02:43] <The_RedBurn> kyncani, thank you, it has worked!
[02:44] <kyncani> The_RedBurn: what's its size now ?
[02:44] <The_RedBurn> kyncani, now, I just wonder if it was the problem
[02:44] <The_RedBurn> kyncani, 455.7 (the original is 458)
[02:45] <kyncani> ok then :)
[02:45] <dantheman> it tells me it can't stat source package list for either of hte universe repositories
[02:46] <The_RedBurn> dantheman, stat ? what does it mean ?
[02:46] <dantheman> i have no idea
[02:46] <The_RedBurn> dantheman, did you try to update the list (left button in synaptic) ?
[02:47] <dantheman> i closed synaptic, edited sources.list, and restarted synaptic
[02:48] <The_RedBurn> dantheman, now push the left "update" button in synaptic to search for new pacjages
[02:48] <dantheman> okay, i think that did
[02:48] <dantheman> it
[02:48] <The_RedBurn> dantheman, perfect, now you've access to 4x more packages :)
[02:48] <carambol> buttons name is:status
[02:49] <dantheman> yeah, i notice
[02:49] <dantheman> man...a whole section for Amateur Radio
[02:49] <dantheman> wow
[02:51] <The_RedBurn> it's stupid toi disable universe packages by default, but they say it's for the insurance of "quality"
[02:53] <ripgut> quick question guys
[02:53] <ripgut> how do i dislpay all my HDd's?
[02:53] <ripgut> hdd's*
[02:53] <kyncani> rigput: fdisk -l (as root)
[02:54] <aimaz> anyone know how to get kcontrol from kde working to set up a proxy, without installing all of kde, I am a gnome user but there is one kde for which there is no equiv in gnome and it needs a proxy setting to be really cool
[02:54] <aimaz> ..one kde app... that should be
[02:55] <ripgut> ok, thanks
[02:55] <ripgut> cause im trying to mount my second HDD 9which is NTFS)
[02:55] <kyncani> aimaz: one single kde app will pull in a whole bunch of kde apps
[02:55] <helio7> what's the bash command to find a certain file extension type in a directory tree?  (ie find mp3s among mostly m4a's...??
[02:55] <kyncani> aimaz: what kind of proxy ?
[02:55] <Nigelenki> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170403  These bugs obviously need attention before the gnome devs will find time to give a shit.
[02:56] <aimaz> kyncani, http proxy
[02:56] <Nigelenki> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171164 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171167
[02:56] <kyncani> helio7: find yourdir -type f -name '*.mp3'
[02:56] <helio7> kyncani: thank you!
[02:56] <kyncani> aimaz: like squid ?
[02:56] <Xeon3D> is anyone here using phpsysinfo ?
[02:56] <ripgut> antoher question
[02:57] <ripgut> do i wanna mount on bootup and allowusers to read only or mount manually?
[02:57] <ripgut> i just wanna listen to my music on this drive
[02:57] <aimaz> kyncani, no, there is a setting in kcontrol for which proxy programs should use when they want to connect to http services, unfortunatly when I run kcontrol there are no settings to be set
[02:58] <kyncani> aimaz: that's for kde programs, there is the same thing for gnome apps
[02:58] <dcraven> aimaz, kdenetwork possibly?
[02:58] <kyncani> aimaz: system -> preferences -> network proxy
[02:59] <aimaz> kyncani, yes, but it's a kde program I wish to have the setting for
[02:59] <kyncani> aimaz: well, if you already have one kde program, kcontrol should not pull to much dependencies, does it ?
[02:59] <neemz> Bandwidth: [Current Downstream: 766kb/s  Current Upstream: 14kb/s]
[03:00] <neemz> ubuntu servers are quite fast
[03:00] <aimaz> no, it's already installed, but it's settings are no there, i think normally there is a tree of settings
[03:00] <kyncani> ripgut: why mounting read only ?
[03:01] <Guga> question, how can I obtain files from another linux hd that are on the desktop?
[03:01] <kyncani> aimaz: well, dcraven must be right, kdenetwork might do it
[03:02] <dcraven> Guga, the file will be in /home/username/Desktop.
[03:03] <tizen> Shouldn't the acroread-plugin thing be removed from the package system?
[03:04] <dcraven> tizen, why?
[03:04] <The_RedBurn> Guga, you have to mount the partitions : mount -t auto -o uid=1000 /dev/[the name of the disk and the number of the partition]  /mnt/[a folder]
[03:05] <The_RedBurn> Guga, example: mount -t auto -o uid=1000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/partition1_from_disk_1
[03:05] <slak> eh?
[03:05] <Br34ch> That thing.. that "ends misbehaving applets" .. yeah.. it's misbehaving
[03:06] <Br34ch> I'm trying to look for it in the system monitor . . . what should be this process' name?
[03:06] <dcraven> Oh yeah, it's definitely slow in here tonite.
[03:06] <dantheman> what's the difference between a hard link and a symbolic link?
[03:06] <slak> SeamusLP: sup?
[03:06] <frank> Hi.  Anyone know what command to use to setup a service?  I have a script in /etc/init.d  but I need to make links in /etc/rc?.d
[03:06] <Despair> Is it widely known that breezy libc6-i686 is smashed, at least in 32bit chroot on amd64?
[03:07] <SeamusLP> slak: Heh whats up
[03:07] <dcraven> frank, update-rc.d?
[03:07] <felipe_> Frank it depends on the runlevel, you wanna run the service
[03:07] <kyncani> frank: update-rc.d, sysv-rc-conf, ...
[03:07] <frank> dantheman: a hard link is when a single physical file has several names in the filesystem
[03:08] <jr_G-man> anybody know how to tell dmraid (and then the partitions) to boot up automatically?
[03:08] <frank> felipe:  what is runlevel 6? X ?
[03:08] <jr_G-man> runlevel 6 is reboot
[03:08] <dantheman> basically, i want to create a shortcut to an executable...can i do that with a symlink?
[03:08] <frank> 5 is X?
[03:08] <jr_G-man> yes
[03:08] <frank> ok
[03:09] <dcraven> dantheman, yes. I'd suggest it.
[03:09] <jr_G-man> 3 is boot up normally with no x
[03:09] <jr_G-man> i don't know what 1, 2, and 4 are
[03:09] <frank> 2 is single user or something
[03:09] <jr_G-man> one of them is single user
[03:09] <frank> 4 is nothing as I recall
[03:10] <The_RedBurn> frank, type man init in a console
[03:10] <dantheman> is it .bashrc that i edit to add something to the path at startup?
[03:10] <kyncani> dantheman: .bashrc and .bash_profile i think
[03:11] <quadfour> got a question, can ubuntu (apt I suppose) handle multiarch packages yet?
[03:12] <aimaz> quadfour, debian can do that too
[03:12] <aimaz> for packages containing non-compiled things
[03:12] <quadfour> so binary multiarch support is still out?
[03:13] <aimaz> oh i see
[03:13] <aimaz> no idea
[03:15] <Despair> hmm, semi-false alarm. purge libc6-i686, try again on libc6 & locales install to get a clean install, then reinstall libc6-i686 and it all works again.
[03:16] <Bazzi> quadfour but I think I read mutliarch support will be improved in the future.
[03:17] <quadfour> Bazzi: google has just been showing me that now :(
[03:18] <Bazzi> :(
[03:18] <frank> I'm running AMD64. Somehow, I broke open office. It segfaults now and I have no idea why
[03:18] <dantheman> how can i add a directory to the path every time i start the computer?
[03:18] <quadfour> frank: OO does that over fonts
[03:18] <eggy> cd ..
[03:18] <kyncani> dantheman: ~/.bashrc and ~/.bash_profile
[03:19] <frank> quadfour: how do I fix it?
[03:19] <dantheman> i have to do it in both?
[03:19] <quadfour> frank: have you added any fonts?
[03:19] <frank> yep
[03:19] <Br34ch> frank's a good guy
[03:19] <quadfour> frank: you have to remove them a bit at a time to find the one causing it
[03:19] <frank> not sure which ones though....
[03:20] <quadfour> frank: I normally move a few at a time doing a mv [a-c] * ...
[03:20] <aimaz> it turns out my problem with KControl was /var/tmp/kdecache-user was owned my user rather than root
[03:21] <quadfour> frank: you'll need to find out where added fonts are installed, it will be different for me (mdk)
[03:21] <frank> in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ ?
[03:21] <phxguy> can someone help with my usb wi-fi connection.
[03:21] <quadfour> something like that, with a directory aon the end
[03:22] <frank> ls
[03:22] <frank> LOL
[03:22] <quadfour> lol ;)
[03:23] <srid> gaim: symbol lookup error:  /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15: undefined symbol: _Znwj
[03:23] <srid> (when starting gaim)
[03:23] <srid> any idea?
[03:23] <Jet2k5> guys what do I need to view wmv vidoes w32codecs right?
[03:23] <Jet2k5> I have those reposetories from ubuntuguide.org and I can't get them
[03:24] <quadfour> srid: you have library dep problems, doublecheck its deps
[03:24] <revelater> is there a defrager for linux?
[03:24] <Jet2k5> linux doesn't need defraggin I think
[03:24] <srid> quadfour, I am using breezy, how to check that?
[03:24] <srid> quadfour, I used apt-get only
[03:25] <phxguy> ndiswrapper (ndis_init_one_usb:191): Windows driver couldn't initialize the device (C0010006)
[03:25] <phxguy> I keep getting this error when i use the linux-686 Kernel ->
[03:25] <quadfour> srid: no idea sorry! I can only tell you the problem, I odn't use apt
[03:25] <quadfour> I should probably get outa here :)
[03:25] <dantheman> alright, it seems i've destroyed my path
[03:25] <phxguy> netwg111: probe of 5-5:1.0 failed with error -22
[03:25] <dantheman> i was editing .bashrc and .bash_profile
[03:25] <srid> quadfour, i too know the prob. i think some package is missing .. but how to find which package it is?
[03:25] <dantheman> does anyone have a default of either of those that they can send me?
[03:25] <Despair> srid: `apt-cache search aspell` may help
[03:26] <tizen> dcraven: sorry it took so long to get back to you, but because the dependencies are impossible aren't they?
[03:26] <Despair> srid: actually, just `apt-get install libaspell15` should solve the problem
[03:26] <dantheman> anyone at all?
[03:26] <revelater> didn't think so
[03:26] <kyncani> dantheman: you want in .bash_profile smthing like:  export PATH="/whatever/bin/dir:$HOME/bin:$PATH"
[03:27] <srid> Despair, libaspell15 is already the newest version
[03:27] <revelater> i need qstring.h and qstringlist.h header files, anyone know what package they are in?
[03:27] <Despair> dantheman: look at /etc/skel/.bashrc & /etc/skel/.bash_profile
[03:27] <dantheman> gedit won't let me open the hidden file in the menu
[03:27] <dantheman> and i can't use it from the command line
[03:27] <kyncani> revelater: apt-file can tell you
[03:28] <revelater> what about in synaptic
[03:28] <srid> dantheman, use 'ctrl+L' in fileselector dialog
[03:28] <revelater> cause i searched synaptic...
[03:28] <kyncani> revelater: don't think synaptic can do it
[03:28] <revelater> ok, so how do i use apt-file?
[03:29] <srid> ok . gaim works now
[03:29] <srid> no .. itdoesn't work :(
[03:29] <dantheman> okay...in the /etc/skel directory...are those the default files?
[03:29] <kyncani> revelater: install it, update its db (apt-file update), and finally apt-file search qtring.h
[03:30] <caffinated> oooOo, my new job is going to let me use ubuntu at work :D
[03:30] <dantheman> can someone give me the absolute path to cp?
[03:30] <kyncani> /bin/cp
[03:30] <Despair> dantheman: /bin/cp
[03:30] <caffinated> that's the first time i've actually been asked what *I* want to use on my workstation heh
[03:30] <toresbe> caffinated: win
[03:30] <revelater> kyncani: how do i install apt-file?
[03:31] <caffinated> toresbe: no need.
[03:31] <kyncani> caffinated: its a package
[03:31] <toresbe> caffinated: I meant as in winnitude
[03:31] <kyncani> err, revelater, that was for you
[03:31] <toresbe> caffinated: winnosity, winnage
[03:31] <caffinated> why would i need those?
[03:32] <toresbe> caffinated: IT MEANS "YAY CONGRATS!"
[03:32] <revelater> kyncani: ok, getting it now
[03:32] <caffinated> so, your capslock is stuck also? ;)
[03:33] <caffinated> yeah, i gathered that.   :P
[03:33] <dantheman> okay, i do echo $PATH, and /bin is there, but i can't actually do simple things like ls and cp...it tells me that the command isn't found
[03:33] <caffinated> I'm just one happy, happy guy right now.
[03:33] <dantheman> and when i do source ~/.bashrc, it gives me dircolors: No such file or directory, and the same thing for lesspipe
[03:33] <GWoSDotOrgGuy> hmmm
[03:34] <caffinated> new job, paid move, high pay and best of all, it's not in this shithole town :D
[03:34] <GWoSDotOrgGuy> just read Ian Murdocks blog
[03:34] <GWoSDotOrgGuy> oh well
[03:35] <caffinated> toresbe: i mean, when you ask people around here if they carry cat-5, they tell you they don't sell pets.
[03:35] <toresbe> caffinated: ew. :P
[03:36] <toresbe> In about 40 mins I'm on the way to a debian-edu devel meeting in greece :)
[03:37] <dantheman> my path includes /bin...why can't i do cp, or open gedit from the shell?
[03:38] <caffinated> nice
[03:38] <caffinated> i bet the weather is baking things there
[03:38] <caffinated> I have a friend who goes twice a year, aparently it's so hot it takes some time to climbatize
[03:39] <kyncani> caffinated: what kind of job is it ?
[03:40] <caffinated> developing web services for bravenet
[03:40] <kyncani> big company ?
[03:40] <caffinated> yeah, pretty big
[03:40] <caffinated> they have 1.5 million members or so
[03:42] <caffinated> should be fun though.  anything has to be better than freelancing ;)
[03:42] <kyncani> :)
[03:42] <revelater> good game though
[03:42] <NotANick> anybody here watch sifl and olly?
[03:42] <kyncani> revelater: apt-file worked ?
[03:42] <revelater> not yet
[03:43] <revelater> still downloading sources
[03:43] <kyncani> caffinated: how much is it for a high paid job there ?
[03:43] <caffinated> high paying?  somewhere around $80-100k/year
[03:44] <caffinated> i won't be getting quite that much though, since I'm just getting on
[03:44] <kyncani> nice
[03:44] <caffinated> i'll probably start at about $40k
[03:44] <caffinated> and then work my way up from there
[03:44] <kyncani> in the states ?
[03:44] <caffinated> no, it's in canada
[03:44] <pepperpot> lolz canadian money
[03:45] <kyncani> ok then :) much better life i think
[03:45] <caffinated> pepperpot: i have a hard time taking anyone who thinks 'z' is a replacement for 's' seriously ;)
[03:46] <cfh_dev> I get a 404 error when installing OO.o2 from us.archive.ubuntu.com.  Is there another source I can use?
[03:46] <pepperpot> caffinated, sorriez
[03:46] <kyncani> archive.ubuntu.com
[03:46] <caffinated> pepperpot: *shrug*
[03:46] <cfh_dev> kyncani: thanks
[03:47] <caffinated> anyhow, i hope my ubuntu cds get here before i move heh.
[03:47] <downpour> hmm how do i go about getting new packages into repos? for instance the newer version of fluxbox
[03:47] <pepperpot> i apologize, i think i had a transient 1337 attack
[03:47] <caffinated> i have a bunch of people i need to give them to
[03:47] <akk> What's calling the password dialog box on resuming from suspend?  Anyone know how to disable it?
[03:47] <caffinated> kyncani: that's not so bad
[03:48] <kyncani> caffinated: nope, well paid and much vacancies :)
[03:48] <cfh_dev> archive.ubuntu.com give 404 errors on OO.o2, too
[03:49] <cfh_dev> Any other sources?
[03:49] <kyncani> cfh_dev: fr.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[03:49] <downpour> can users submit packages to get added to repos?
[03:50] <downpour> after they are tested of course
[03:50] <Guga> can I recover files from a 2nd hd's desktop?  the GUI won't load
[03:50] <kyncani> Guga: well, just mount the disk and copy the files over ?
[03:51] <Guga> I tried, but my ding ding is too big for the cdrom
[03:51] <cfh_dev> kyncani: same 404 error.  Has OO.o2 been removed from the ubuntu sources?
[03:52] <kyncani> cfh_dev: well, i don't know, you may try again tomorrow ..
[03:53] <dazed> i just rolled the nicest blunt ever seen
[03:53] <doubleplus> Is there any way I can make synaptic use a mounted Ubuntu install cd image, rather than my normal CD drive?
[03:53] <doubleplus> Or, for that matter, make a mounted cd image behave as a normal CD all the time
[03:54] <cfh_dev> dazed: mmmm, blunts
[03:55] <kyncani> doubleplus: add a file repository in /etc/apt/sources.list  google for "deb file" sources.list
[03:55] <kyncani> doubleplus: that would look like: deb file:/home/debmirror/ftp.fr.debian.org/http/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> i just got done installing Hoary on an old system... 800mhz celeron... wow... nice.
[03:56] <nomasteryoda> kudos
[03:57] <Marble2> can someone tell me how to enable incremental file creation?
[03:57] <kyncani> what's this incremental file creation thingie ?
[03:57] <nomasteryoda> now for the 333mhz box
[03:58] <dazed> hows everyone doin tonight
[03:58] <Fazer> hi dazed
[03:58] <Fazer> eating a triffle cake
[03:59] <Fazer> you?
[03:59] <Seq> does anybody know why cd ripping with sound juicer is going so horribly slow?
[03:59] <doubleplus> kyncani, like: deb file:/mnt/iso/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[03:59] <kyncani> yeah
[04:00] <doubleplus> kyncani, awesome, thanks a lot!
[04:00] <kyncani> :)
[04:00] <GnuKemist> can someone help me setting up my wireless on my IBM X40?
[04:01] <nomasteryoda> GnuKemist: i am guessing it has a broadcom chipset?
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> requiring the ndiswrapper
[04:02] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, I think so... lemme see the name...  intel 2200 something
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> ah
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> that is different
[04:02] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, how so?
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> sourceforge project on it
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> i2200.sf.net i think
[04:03] <akk> What's the command to configure gdm?  Nothing in the System->Administration menu actually brings up any windows.
[04:03] <GnuKemist> lemme check
[04:03] <Marble2> Is there a standalone program in linux to create .torrent files?
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> Marble2: like Azureus
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> it does it
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> as well as downloads them
[04:04] <Marble2> nomasteryoda: mine always crashes
[04:04] <Marble2> which is why I said standalone
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> Marble2: it's a java error
[04:04] <Marble2> oh
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> that is my issue with azureus
[04:04] <nomasteryoda> it uses java
[04:05] <Marble2> yea
[04:05] <Marble2> i have the latest jre
[04:05] <Ryman> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> yea, also loook for a .lock file in the ~/.Azureus folder
[04:06] <Fazer> hahaha
[04:06] <Fazer> this is funny
[04:06] <Fazer> when you put ubuntu live cd to slepe
[04:07] <Fazer> and try to turn it back on
[04:07] <Fazer> and you don't know the passwordd
[04:07] <Fazer> i like how it flashes "DENIED" in big red letters
[04:07] <kyncani> ha ha
[04:08] <Fazer> its like hollywood's representation of computer authentication
[04:08] <dazed> lol Fazer
[04:09] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, doing a dmesg |grep eth1 gave me this: eth1: no IPv6 routers present
[04:10] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, apparently the mod for iw2200 is already loaded
[04:10] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, I know my router doesn't support ipv6...
[04:10] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, what gives?
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> just sec
[04:11] <GnuKemist> k
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> GnuKemist: ignore that
[04:11] <smouche> lol, Fazer - my favorite hollywood silliness is how every message appearing on screen scrolls on one character at a time, with sound effects...
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> i get that issue too
[04:11] <nomasteryoda> GnuKemist: you have web or wpa turned on in the router?
[04:11] <housetier> yah the sound effects are terrible
[04:11] <LLM> ya, thats so corny
[04:12] <Fazer> smouche: hahaha, yeah!
[04:12] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, wep
[04:12] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, with mac filter
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> ok
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> i have the same setup
[04:12] <nomasteryoda> different cards, but same setup then
[04:12] <MrNonchalant> hey folks, probably a hardware problem but I figured I'd run it past you people anyway. I've got an old computer 133Mhz Pentium, not much RAM, no hard drive, 1 CD drive. it seems to recognize the CD drive, but doesn't boot into Ubuntu live. it asks me to please insert bootable media and sometimes beeps without emitting any further errors. it is set to boot to CD in the bios. any ideas?
[04:12] <GnuKemist> I got 5 cards listed  ;)
[04:13] <nomasteryoda> GnuKemist: with ifconfig -a, you might get some fun stuff  like sit0, eth0, eth1
[04:13] <nomasteryoda> and if you have vmware, then even more
[04:13] <kyncani> MrNonchalant: can it read the cd (from an existing os already installed) ?
[04:14] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, yeah... what is sit0 anyhow?
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> google
[04:14] <GnuKemist> k
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> so back to the real issue
[04:14] <GnuKemist> right
[04:14] <nomasteryoda> do you se the card in ubuntu's network app
[04:15] <GnuKemist> yup
[04:15] <nomasteryoda> ah, ok
[04:15] <xemisions> how do you install ati drivers
[04:15] <nomasteryoda> did it get an ip address from the router?
[04:15] <GnuKemist> nothing...  am plugged via ethernet now
[04:15] <nomasteryoda> ok
[04:15] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, but no IP for wireless
[04:15] <xemisions> how do you install ati drivers
[04:16] <skreet> If I do a dist-upgrade to hoary shouldent that install xorg?
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> GnuKemist: what about iwconfig -a
[04:16] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, shows a whole bunch of devices
[04:16] <Fazer> GnuKemist: Sorry to interrupt, did you type lspci and see your card listed some place?
[04:16] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, no ip though
[04:16] <GnuKemist> Fazer, yup
[04:16] <nomasteryoda> ok
[04:16] <GnuKemist> Fazer, did that
[04:17] <Fazer> Hmm, when you type 'sudo network-admin', do you see wifi some place?
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> i'm installing ubuntu hoary from the downloaded iso on a 333mhz system right now
[04:17] <Fazer> *wifi = your wlan card
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> wifi0 it should be
[04:17] <Fazer> nomasteryoda: Shouldn't it be wlan0 ?
[04:17] <GnuKemist> Fazer, yup... it's there...  it is very weird that it won't get the ip from dhcp
[04:17] <skreet> If I do a dist-upgrade to hoary shouldent that install xorg?\
[04:17] <nomasteryoda> on ubuntu it is wifi0
[04:18] <GnuKemist> Fazer, not using ndiswrapper
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> at least in my experience
[04:18] <Fazer> nomasteryoda: really? just today I was going through the sae thing as GnuKemist
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> GnuKemist: is the module loaded
[04:18] <smouche> does anyone happen to know the commands to start ml-donkey server (the server and the client) ?
[04:18] <crimsun> Fazer: hi?
[04:18] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, yup
[04:18] <MrNonchalant> kyncani: no hard drive, no OS on that computer. the CD worked fine on another computer
[04:18] <akk> I had a similar problem: my network card's driver loads fine but there's no entry in /etc/network/interfaces so it doesn't show up in the guis.
[04:18] <MrNonchalant> that, is the one I'm currently typing on
[04:18] <nomasteryoda> GnuKemist: did you try disabling the eth0/1 and then rebooting
[04:18] <Fazer> crimsun: Awesome, dude.  Sorry to bother you again, I think I mis-wrote those boot parameters that you gave me.  I can't recreate the same effects now...think I am mkstyping it.
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> knowing wifi is down
[04:19] <Fazer> GnuKemist: Type this:
[04:19] <Fazer> er..
[04:19] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, will have to do it
[04:19] <crimsun> Fazer: noapic nolapic pci=noacpi
[04:19] <frank> crimsun: maybe you can help:   Open Office 1.1.3 used to run but now it segfaults. I don't know how I broke it
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> and trying to turn it back on with the gui
[04:19] <skreet> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  661FX/M661FX/M661MX/741/M741/760/M760 PCI/AGP
[04:19] <kyncani> MrNonchalant: well, cds always tend to work on one computer but cannot be cannot be read on another ...
[04:19] <Fazer> crimsun: Thanks, let me reconfirm wth my PDA.
[04:19] <skreet> Which Xorg/xF driver is that?
[04:19] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, lemme try that then
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> GnuKemist: make sure the key matches
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:19] <nomasteryoda> good luck
[04:20] <crimsun> frank: sorry, not an OO.o person. Have you checked bugzilla?
[04:20] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, I did check it 4 times... hehe  those pesky characters
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> ok
[04:20] <frank> crimsun: yeah and I did'nt find anything
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> frank: did you update java?
[04:21] <frank> I installed java manually
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> ok
[04:21] <skreet> If I do a dist-upgrade to hoary shouldent that install xorg?
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> i have had that break it before
[04:21] <Tinamoo> Just installed ubuntu 5.04. the problem is that after entering username and password in gdm, it stops working. i can see the background and mouse cursor but it just wont go further. Please help...
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> skreet: yes
[04:21] <GnuKemist> nomasteryoda, just fyi the modules I have are:  ipv6, ipw2200, firmeware_class, and ieee80211
[04:21] <MrNonchalant> kyncani: pity then. even if I'm using the same CD drive?
[04:21] <Fazer> GnuKemist: what do you see when you type `sudo ndiswrapper -l`
[04:21] <jr_G-man> okay...i have dmraid all working on my machine...and I can manually mount the raid partition...
[04:21] <skreet> nomasteryoda, then why dont i have an xorg.conf, i have XFree86.conf
[04:21] <GnuKemist> Fazer, am not using ndiswrapper
[04:21] <kyncani> MrNonchalant: nope, don't think so
[04:21] <jr_G-man> can anybody tell me how to have this done automatically during bootup?
[04:22] <Fazer> GnuKemist: ooh =(
[04:22] <skreet> nomasteryoda, How can I verify i'm running xorg?
[04:22] <nomasteryoda> skreet: let me look
[04:22] <skreet> nomasteryoda, Thanks, Appreciate it.
[04:22] <GnuKemist> Fazer, it is supposed to be linux compatible
[04:22] <Fazer> GnuKemist: Oh, I am having trouble of my own =[
[04:23] <GnuKemist> Fazer, am gonna disable everything and reboot...  will talk to you all in a few
[04:23] <skreet> re..boot?
[04:23] <kyncani> reboot ?
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> skreet: you didn't?
[04:23] <skreet> nomasteryoda, Should I have to reboot to apply a dist-upgrade?
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> er, yea
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> lots of stuff changed
[04:23] <Fazer> crimsun: what time zone are you at?
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> kernel, etc
[04:24] <crimsun> Fazer: EDT -0400 GMT
[04:24] <skreet> nomasteryoda, But shouldent I at least have an xorg.conf?
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> just sec
[04:24] <smouche> skreet -- I really don't see why --
[04:24] <Fazer> crimsun: eh... Europe?
[04:24] <crimsun> Fazer: east coast USA.
[04:24] <Fazer> crimsun: Ooh, same here.  But..Canada =/
[04:24] <skreet> Fazer, So you're in the east coast USA, but canada?
[04:25] <Fazer> street: Hmm... I should say EST =/
[04:25] <Reblended> I thought the GPL license was bulletproof??? http://www.cio-today.com/story.xhtml?story_id=32876
[04:25] <skreet> :D
[04:25] <Fazer> Wait, I am not really EAST, just...near New York.
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> skreet: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HoaryUpgradeNotes
[04:25] <dazed> Reblended: hey hows it going?
[04:25] <Fazer> I thin I am like 2 hrs away from Niagra
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> Post-Upgrade part
[04:25] <Reblended> sup dazed
[04:26] <Reblended> what the... I type daz and tab and it puts junk on the screen!
[04:26] <Reblended> sry for flooding...
[04:26] <soopurman> how do i flush my system arp cache ?
[04:26] <Reblended> how'd that happe, Dazed???
[04:26] <Reblended> I hit tab to complete your name and it pastes a whole bunch of names and hits return!
[04:27] <Reblended> dazed, Ok. it's fixed. =p how's it going? I'm good
[04:27] <dazed> Reblended: bored...good that u got it fixed :)
[04:28] <Reblended> X-Chat spazzed on me... or I pressed something I didn't know I did, dazed
[04:28] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:28] <] BreliC[> is there a good package of fonts for ubuntu?
[04:28] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, yah, even braille!
[04:28] <dazed> Reblended: go with irssi much cooler than xchat ^-
[04:28] <dazed> lol
[04:28] <Reblended> irissi? ok.. dazed
[04:28] <Reblended> I'm not joking ] BreliC[
[04:28] <Reblended> LOL dazed I saw them on the LIVE cd
[04:28] <Reblended> very nice fonts
[04:29] <Reblended> and I think you can even use ttf, and type 1 too
[04:29] <] BreliC[> heh, braille?
[04:29] <dazed> Reblended: did u do a full install or u still on live cd?
[04:29] <Reblended> you know... for people that are really short sighted? ] BreliC[
[04:29] <NigelS> Reblended: the GPL doesn't prevent you charging for the product at all.  What these companies are doing is selling "support" which a lot of companies simply won't buy something without.     Open Office 1.1.3 used to run but now it segfaults. I don't know how I broke it. I don't thinkthe problem is fonts
[04:30] <Reblended> NigelS, weird that the article says that they've circumvented GPL.. thx for the clarification
[04:30] <] BreliC[> Reblended, hmm, i'll keep looking.  i had some really nice ones in suse
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> frank, try making another user account and running it as that user
[04:30] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, Cannot you just copy all the fonts over?
[04:30] <frank> nomasteryoda, ok
[04:30] <abarbaccia> hey all - does ubuntu have the ati drivers preinstalled for 3d acceleration, or is that something you have to add in seperate?
[04:30] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, why'd you switch, mind me asking
[04:30] <] BreliC[> Reblended, guess i could :)
[04:31] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, they must be hosted somewhere on the net..
[04:31] <dcraven> ] BreliC[, if you have the *.ttf files, just put them in ~/.fonts and GNOME will use them.
[04:31] <] BreliC[> Reblended, well, they'e getting more and more annoying in their multimedia support by crippling it in default installations, which requires me to recompile stuff all the time
[04:31] <Reblended> dazed, well, my sis's computer is what I was running LIVE cd on and everything seems to work! amazingly.. but I wanna be the first one with nix in the family =p
[04:31] <] BreliC[> dcraven, thanks, i'll try that
[04:32] <Reblended> dcraven, is it true when you copy the .ttf's you have to sudo?
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> abarbaccia: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22496
[04:32] <dazed> Reblended: hehe ...my family would never understand linux if it wasnt for aol i dont think they would understand the internet
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> like aol is the internet man
[04:32] <Reblended> dazed, what's the internet? Oh, you mean AOL?
[04:32] <dcraven> Reblended, not if you put them in ~/.fonts... That's your home dir.
[04:32] <Reblended> ROFL nomasteryoda
[04:32] <dcraven> biab
[04:33] <Reblended> dcraven, hmm. I heard that font's wont install unless you are superuser...
[04:33] <Reblended> what do I know?
[04:33] <nomasteryoda> dude, you're getting a dell with aohel
[04:33] <Reblended> ROFL
[04:33] <Reblended> I'm so happy my sis got an HP... this machine is so sweet with Ubuntu
[04:33] <Reblended> Blender 3D launched in .001 seconds... 8 seconds with XP
[04:33] <Dreamer3> i love how hoary hasn't had any updates yet :)\
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> like i clicked on that thingy and it installed a trojan or something, now my windows are broken...
[04:34] <Reblended> hahah
[04:34] <dazed> Reblended: ewww HP...(im saying this with an HP laptop sittin 2 inches from my keyboard)
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> i love hearing those stories
[04:34] <Reblended> I was just reading email and then pow
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> it's why i'm installing ubuntu on every box i have here
[04:34] <frank> nomasteryoda, Open Office still segfaults with another user
[04:34] <Reblended> #openoffice.org
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> and giving them away to poor windows users
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> frank, just sec
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> http://lists.debian.org/debian-openoffice/2005/03/msg00165.html
[04:35] <Reblended> how'd you get your name, nomasteryoda?
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> er, i just decided to pick it out of the blue
[04:36] <Reblended> cute
[04:36] <Bukkake> yeah, cute . . .
[04:36] <Reblended> (why does my sony vaio laptop (PCG-FX190 not boot past vmlinuz....
[04:36] <abarbaccia> how do you remove a package installed with apt-get?
[04:36] <Reblended> this is live cd btw
[04:36] <Bukkake> apt-get uninstall I think?
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> it's kinda like No, Master Yoda! I can't lift that Xwing from the swamp....
[04:36] <Reblended> LOL
[04:36] <dazed> lol nomasteryoda
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> thanky
[04:36] <Reblended> is the opposite of -i... -u?
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> i also have alterego adoyretsamon
[04:37] <abarbaccia> Bukkake, that didn't work
[04:37] <dazed> nomasteryoda: funny thing is i have never seen more than 30 minutes of any starwars movie and i know what ur talking about
[04:37] <Reblended> nomastersudo
[04:37] <] BreliC[> dcraven, what's the ~/font-cache?  Should I stick them in there?
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> frank, check on the fonts
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> just in case
[04:37] <] BreliC[> actually, forget it.. it's a file
[04:37] <nomasteryoda> use the OOo admin tool
[04:37] <frank> nomasteryoda, I already checked the fonts. as far as I can tell. maybe if I downgrade as suggested
[04:37] <Reblended> < needs to read up on what a segfault is
[04:38] <Reblended> apt-get -i suse-fonts
[04:38] <Reblended> =p
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> frank: maybe upgrade to the beta... lol
[04:38] <Reblended> http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/
[04:39] <Reblended> (those are for installing MS's core fonts on nix
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> cool
[04:39] <Reblended> =D
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> yea
[04:39] <Reblended> ok.. I only use two.. ariel, and times-newroman
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> i saw that link scroll by in my logs
[04:39] <Reblended> I'm bland
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> kiss
[04:39] <Reblended> I worked for a lady designer that loved Utopia
[04:39] <Reblended> u this and u that
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> cool
[04:40] <] BreliC[> Reblended, hehe, s'ok.  i was a graphic designer in a past life, so still use some for hobby design
[04:40] <Reblended> I love fonts ] BreliC[
[04:40] <Reblended> I really want to move to nix to be able to create fonts for free
[04:40] <nomasteryoda> i still do some graphic work ... at my work
[04:40] <nomasteryoda> i have like 400 fonts installed
[04:40] <nomasteryoda> course linux don't complain, but winders does
[04:40] <] BreliC[> Reblended, you're not using *nix?
[04:40] <Reblended> this desginer would get a new type-1 from Adobe and just drool and act histerically
[04:41] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, I just booted the live cd of hoary two days ago.. Love it~!
[04:41] <] BreliC[> sweet :)  First experience?
[04:41] <Reblended> YES!!!
[04:41] <] BreliC[> welcome aboard
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> funny thing is they are not difficult to make
[04:41] <dazed> Reblended: it is great isnt it
[04:41] <dazed> nomasteryoda: fonts?
[04:41] <Reblended> only good experiences on my sis's HP.. my sony is another question
[04:41] <] BreliC[> <-- windows-free for almost two years now
[04:42] <Reblended> dazed, I can now rest in peace after trying nix
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> dazed: possible solution to frank's seg fault
[04:42] <] BreliC[> except for studio recording, which i still need windows for
[04:42] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, why did I wait so long?
[04:42] <dazed> Reblended: sometimes some machines take more configging than others
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> i OOo
[04:42] <Reblended> ] BreliC[,  no you DONT!!!!
[04:42] <dazed> nomasteryoda: i would think font making is hard
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> right
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> it's not
[04:42] <] BreliC[> Reblended, for professional, yes
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> and the right app
[04:42] <Reblended> ] BreliC[,  oh my.. there is an awesome program.. let me find it
[04:42] <dazed> nomasteryoda: good to know
[04:43] <] BreliC[> Reblended, nix apps just aren't there yet.  i love the concept behind jack and the interconnection, but it's still flaky at best
[04:43] <Reblended> dazed, well, the sony just won't boot on the live cd.. gets stuck after vmlinuz... I don't know what args to use
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> i used to do it with coreldraw
[04:43] <dazed> nomasteryoda: do you like draw each individual character with some app and then compile?
[04:43] <] BreliC[> i've had headaches working with ardour, rosegarden, jamin, etc...
[04:43] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, well.. hang on a bit I want your opinion on another
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> or "export" as corel calls it
[04:43] <Reblended> brb
[04:43] <dazed> Reblended: theres a list when u put live cd in when you f2 or f3 i think
[04:43] <revelater> ] BreliC[ if you can get your hands on protools source for osx you could easily compile it for anything else
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> F2
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> same as for Knoppix
[04:44] <] BreliC[> revelater, protools is open source?  plus, doesn't it require dedicated hardware?
[04:44] <dazed> it is same as knoppix
[04:44] <revelater> ] BreliC[ no its isn't, tahts why i said if
[04:45] <] BreliC[> revelater, nice.. is it easily available?
[04:45] <revelater> ] BreliC[ you MAY be able to purchase it if you sign an affidavit of some kind
[04:45] <] BreliC[> hahah
[04:46] <revelater> ] BreliC[ and i think you only need dedicated hardware if you plan on doing REALLY advanced stuff
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> did any of you listen to RMS on Thelinuxlink.net's techshow last night?
[04:46] <] BreliC[> revelater, i plan on doing really advanced stuff :D
[04:47] <revelater> ] BreliC[ by that i mean teaching utils and software
[04:47] <revelater> ] BreliC[ otherwise you should be fine
[04:47] <revelater> ] BreliC[ anywho, i have got 2 go
[04:47] <nomasteryoda> welcome sanxiyn
[04:48] <Fazer> crimsun: hey, sorry to bother you again, are you sure its this for my thinkpad 600e: "noapic nolapic pci=noapci"
[04:49] <crimsun> frank: no, you munged the syntax
[04:49] <crimsun> noapic nolapic pci=noacpi
[04:49] <Fazer> frank or Fazer?
[04:49] <crimsun> Fazer:
[04:49] <crimsun> frank: sorry
[04:50] <crimsun> note that noacpi != noapic
[04:50] <Fazer> crimsun: sorry, typos =(
[04:50] <Fazer> crimsun: so, what is the difference between the to?
[04:50] <Fazer> *two
[04:50] <Reblended> ] BreliC[,  rate this: http://bloodshed.net/wired/?sid=5
[04:50] <Levander> Anybod in here got the php mail() function working with the default ubuntu postfix?
[04:50] <crimsun> Fazer: sorry, kinda busy, try searching google
[04:51] <Fazer> crimsun: Ah, roger that.
[04:51] <frank> ;)
[04:51] <Levander> This is what I'm getting when I try to get the php mail() function to work under ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/271475
[04:52] <Reblended> ahh so, use of pastebin instead of flooding chat?   It's got some nice eye candy, but I would *never* trust a professional project with it.. it's ver 0.11, and doesn't even have jackit or ladspa support yet!
[04:53] <Reblended> k. thx for the rate ] BreliC[
[04:54] <bob2> Levander: your php script is broken
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> did you guys see this?>>>>>>
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> http://channels.lockergnome.com/linux/archives/20050414_ubuntu_meets_veronica_mars.phtml
[04:54] <Levander> bob2: good, somebody looked at it.
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> wow
[04:54] <bob2> or maybe php is just broken
[04:54] <] BreliC[> Reblended, no prob.  it's definitely the nicest looking multitracker for linux so far and has a lot of potential.  i hope it comes through
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> talk about primetime exposure for ubuntu
[04:54] <Levander> bob2: what's wrong with the script?
[04:54] <] BreliC[> Reblended, do you do recording now?
[04:54] <bob2> Levander: no idea, I don't do php
[04:55] <Levander> bob2: okay, thanks for commenting....
[04:55] <bob2> Levander: but it has no to: header, apparently
[04:55] <ortazel> hey, I have question regarding getting kernel-source into my ubuntu installation
[04:55] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, will keep eye on it... I've done just one cd with my sis, still have to master it.
[04:55] <difekta> WHENEVER my girlfriend logs into her account on my machine, the splash doesn't disappear until you click on it.  how do i fix this annoying situation?
[04:55] <Levander> bob2: that's the first argument in the mail() function, or is supposed to be anyway, doesn't work for me
[04:55] <dcraven> ] BreliC[, sorry was afk.. Just create a dir called ~/.fonts and put them in there. But I should mention that only your user will be able to use them in that location.
[04:55] <bob2> ortazel: best to just ask it then
[04:55] <bob2> Levander: ok
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> Levander: i just got my php working on a akkckc cough iis server at work... with phpbbs
[04:56] <bob2> difekta: that bug comes and goes over the years.  are you on ppc?
[04:56] <] BreliC[> dcraven, thanks, just tried your suggestion and works like a charm :)  I'm the only user anyway, so it's ok
[04:56] <ortazel> ok, I'm trying to install my wireless card with this guide- http://www.houseofcraig.net/acx100_howto.php#trouble_compiling
[04:56] <bob2> ortazel: ignore that guide
[04:56] <dcraven> ] BreliC[, cool.
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> and mod'd several things manually
[04:56] <ortazel> i'm stuck at the part where i install kernel-source
[04:56] <] BreliC[> Reblended, what did you use to record?
[04:56] <bob2> ortazel: you want 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[04:56] <frank> anybody else have this bug:  users created with gnome Users and GRoups cant log on. users created with  sudo adduser can
[04:57] <ortazel> bob2: i'm trying that now, thanks
[04:57] <] BreliC[> Reblended, we're in pre-production phase for our cd. should be done by the end of the summer but we're getting it pro mastered.  it's worth the bucks
[04:57] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, We recorded at our piano tuners home in Seattle. Some win program I don't remember exactly
[04:57] <stas_> hi
[04:57] <] BreliC[> Reblended, nice. you play piano?
[04:57] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, This is just a low-cost thing. What's the going rate for say, 11 tracks?
[04:58] <stas_> can I raise the refresh rate of my ctrl-alt-fX consoles? and maybe add a background image or smth?
[04:58] <Fazer> Cubase?!
[04:58] <CheeseBall> hey a have a major question for all of ya.....in your opinion what is the best GUI
[04:58] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, All original compositions and I've done some with lyrics
[04:58] <bob2> stas_: just use X
[04:58] <stas_> sometimes I can't
[04:58] <stas_> like
[04:58] <stas_> I'll have a game or smth
[04:58] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, Yes, I compose on piano, classicly trained
[04:58] <] BreliC[> Reblended, in Canada, 12 tracks/60 minutes is about 4 hours for a good master and 8 for a great master.  Rate depends... anywhere from $40 - $150/hour
[04:59] <stas_> so I have to go and killall -9 wine wineserver
[04:59] <stas_> and other things
[04:59] <] BreliC[> Reblended, sweet... you should send me a tune when it's done
[04:59] <stas_> I think it can be done, I saw it on some of my friends' computers
[04:59] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, Maybe I'll shop around then. I can always email the job to wherever.
[04:59] <stas_> do you know if it's hard to do?
[04:59] <] BreliC[> Reblended, true, but it's nice to be there so they can ask you what you're looking for, and for you to hear what they're doing
[05:00] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, I plan to host my compositions in .ogg, and offer to send anyone a cd if they don't know how, or just want to support.
[05:00] <Fazer> wait, if next time you want to boot up ubuntu with different boot parameters, you can change them in /proc/cmdline ?
[05:00] <ice_1963> back to gnome frum kde
[05:00] <dcraven> CheeseBall, try each and pick the one you like.
[05:00] <Reblended> ] BreliC[, true... I want it as true to piano without any fx...
[05:00] <dazed> i want to do something with linux
[05:01] <dazed> im bored
[05:01] <CheeseBall> what is the on that you prefer dcraven
[05:01] <dazed> maybe some super tux
[05:01] <CheeseBall> not to start any debates
[05:01] <Reblended> dazed, what do you do when you're bored?
[05:01] <dcraven> CheeseBall, GNOME.
[05:01] <] BreliC[> Reblended, cool.. if you're interested, here's an online mastering studio http://www.xarcmastering.com/
[05:01] <bob2> Fazer: no
[05:01] <CheeseBall> cool thats the one im on now
[05:01] <Fazer> bob2: oh?
[05:01] <in1> can i upgrade from Debian Sarge to Ubuntu merely by changing the apt-repositories and doing an apt-get upgrade ?
[05:01] <bob2> Fazer: how would that work?  the kernel loses all state between boots.
[05:01] <dazed> Reblended: fix something...make something...add something to linux...and when all else fails...play super tux
[05:01] <CheeseBall> but i have window maker installed too
[05:01] <Reblended> checking it out. ] BreliC[  thx
[05:01] <] BreliC[> np
[05:01] <bob2> Fazer: you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst AFTER reading the comments in that file
[05:02] <bob2> in1: not easily, and it's not supported.  it'll "probably" work, tho
[05:02] <Fazer> bob2: Hmm, because when I boot up the Live CD, I have to type in this in the boot parameters: "noapic nolapic pci=noacpi"
[05:02] <in1> probably's good enough, thankyou bob2.