[00:00] <mint> Is this the Ubuntu group? Making sure.
[00:01] <mint> Hello?
[00:01] <nacc> mint: this is the ubuntu support channel
[00:02] <nacc> mint: do you have an ubuntu (not Mint, just in case that is what you are running) support question?
[00:02] <mint> Ahh.. is Mint not allowed here?
[00:02] <mint> Cos the mint server doesn't have a clue
[00:03] <nacc> mint: Mint is not supported here
[00:03] <nacc> !mint | mint
[00:03] <mint> Thought it was more of an open comm -- cya around then :(.
[00:18] <asyterirc57165> g
[00:21] <asyterirc57306> teremok
[00:21] <asyterirc57306> test
[00:35] <Intee> Yo guys, is there a way to clean out your repo list?
[00:36] <Intee> Even manually.. I added a bunch of kali repos to my source list (I think.. What ever list update looks at) and just want to clean them up now as I'm finished with them.
[00:37] <v0lksman> /etc/apt/sources.list and sources.list.d
[00:39] <LinuxNIT> Hello. I am running ubuntu 17.10 with gdm3. I have an issue where openarena goes full screen on the wrong monitor. I think this is because the system default is on the wrong monitor. I read that i can copy my ~/.config/monitors.xml to /var/lib/gdm3/.config to resolve this but it is not changning which monitor the system sees as default at the login screen. Can anyone assist me?
[00:40] <Intee> Legend v0lksman <#
[00:43] <Intee> v0lksman, Sorry man. Nothing in either of those but when I SSH into my server it says 403 updates to be done.
[00:43] <Intee> Update, upgrade and dist-upgrade doesn't stop this from coming up.
[00:45] <v0lksman> sources.list is a file and sources.list.d is a dir with files. sources.list must have something in it because that is where apt gets it's list of repos from for Ubuntu itself.  sources.list.d is for additional lists if you added them manually
[00:45] <Guest27862> Can I ask about installing popcorn-time here?
[00:45] <v0lksman> have you rebooted the instance since the last upgrade?
[00:51] <bindi> ubuntu minimal install worked with usb 3g modem but after the install is ready it does not, what now?
[00:51] <Intee> v0lksman, source.list has some stuff I added manually and the standard stuff but none of the kali repos.
[00:52] <Intee> I didn't realise .list.d was a directory. I'll have to check that again..
[00:52] <Intee> And yeah, restarted a bunch
[00:55] <Intee> v0lksman, yeah nothing in sources.list.d either.
[00:56] <Intee> I used some python script to add all the repos and it has a remove tool built-in. I just tried that. It stopped the repos being updated
[00:56] <Intee> So when I run apt-get update I don't see them but it's still saying 400+ updates to be done when I log on
[00:59] <fguy67> Hi all
[01:01] <SS1> Readme in Popcorntime documentation says to do "gulp run". But I get "Local gulp not found in ~/Downloads/PPT". Am I using gulp correctly?
[01:01] <banekillgrind> ahhh i messed up and i don't know how to fix it...
[01:03] <leftyfb> SS1: "gulp" is not a thing in ubuntu. Nor is help with popcorntime supported here
[01:03] <banekillgrind> I installed an m.2 ssd in my laptop, unplugged my hdd, installed ubuntu and now even with the bios order set correctly i'm booting into the hdd
[01:04] <banekillgrind> they are listed as the same mount point in gparted
[01:04] <banekillgrind> ubuntu-vg
[01:04] <SS1> leftyfb: Understandable, do you know of a place I can get help from?
[01:04] <leftyfb> SS1: wherever you got popcorntime from
[01:05] <SS1> leftyfb: Thanks :)
[01:06] <guiverc> SS1, I see references to people having the same issue elsewhere, eg.  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/26136312/gulp-command-does-not-work
[01:07] <guiverc> SS1, have you looked elsewhere yourself?
[01:09] <SS1> guiverc: I got it from popcorntime.sh, I'll look at your stackflow link now. Maybe it'll help
[01:10] <guiverc> SS1, note: i know nothing about the software; it was the first of a number startpage reported on a search .. had an answer with 40+ upvotes.. (there were others too)
[01:15] <SS1> guiverc: Gulp does work I think, but I'm unsure if I'm using it correctly. It returns "Local gulp not found in ~/Downloads/PPT" when I do gulp run
[01:16] <SS1> guiverc: Nevermind, you know nothign about the software, you just wrote that. Sorry.
[01:17] <guiverc> SS1, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:17] <SS1> guiverc: 17.10 artful
[01:20] <banekillgrind>  Multiple VGs found with the same name: ubuntu-vg.
[01:20] <insanity99> Hey guys. It seems I can only boot through recovery mode without video hardware acceleration
[01:21] <insanity99> All other boot options just seem to get stuck
[01:22] <guiverc> the only gulp supported is the default (universe repo) gulp - as leftyfb stated - popcorn* isn't a ubuntu package.. i looked at gulp & its too far from my knowledge-base so i couldn't help sorry.
[01:23] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Graphic's driver ? At the login screen does key combo ctl+alt+F2 yield  a console interface ?
[01:24] <SS1> guiverc: I understand. Popcorntime is far from an ubuntu package, just hoped for the best asking here. Thank you anyway :)
[01:26] <banekillgrind> hmmm vgdisplay then vgrename using the uid. lets reboot and see
[01:28] <insanity99> Bashing-om: If I get as far as the log in screen I think so
[01:31] <Bashing-om> insanity99: login there ,, and let's see what there is for a driver . what shows in the configuration line of ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[01:33] <banekillgrind> ok cool it worked
[01:34] <banekillgrind> yay
[01:51] <insanity99> Sorry about that
[01:51] <insanity99> http://termbin.com/yfyo Bashing-om
[01:53] <Bashing-om> insanity99: No driver loaded " display UNCLAIMED " . what release is this ' lsb_release -a ' ?
[01:55] <insanity99> No LSB moduels are available
[02:00] <guiverc> insanity99, did you use the `-a` option as Bashing-om said
[02:01] <insanity99> No LSB modules are available.
[02:01] <insanity99> Distributor ID:	LinuxMint
[02:01] <insanity99> Description:	Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
[02:01] <insanity99> Release:	18.3
[02:01] <insanity99> Codename:	sylvia
[02:02] <insanity99> Bashing-om: guiverc
[02:04] <insanity99> Does this help sorry?
[02:05] <Intee> Sorry everyone but could still can't work out why my server keeps saying there are 400+ packages to be updated.
[02:05] <Intee> https://imgur.com/a/R3zHm
[02:05] <leftyfb> !mint | insanity99
[02:06] <Intee> Checked my source.list and everything in my source.list.d and can't see anything that isn't standard bar the Microsoft repo (Powershell) and one I added manually to Source.list myself for webmin (Webmin offical) .
[02:06] <leftyfb> !mint | Intee
[02:06] <Intee> This is Ubuntu? :\
[02:06] <Intee> Ubuntu server.
[02:07] <insanity99> Okay sorry. If I install Ubuntu 17.10 and have the same issue will you help me then? I don't really know what I'm doing but panicking because I need a stable system in the next few hours
[02:07] <leftyfb> Intee: it says Kali
[02:07] <insanity99> Intee:
[02:07] <Intee> Linux PurityServer 4.4.0-116-generic #140-Ubuntu SMP Mon Feb 12 21:23:04 UTC 2018 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:07] <Intee> I'm not fully retarded right? It is ubunut haha.
[02:07] <Intee> Ubuntu* right?
[02:08] <leftyfb> Intee: the picture you posted says welcome to kali linux
[02:08] <Intee> Yeah I just noticed but what I just posted was "uname -a"
[02:09] <Intee> I swear I installed Ubuntu server and not Kali.. The hell.
[02:09] <Intee> Ok..
[02:09] <insanity99> leftyfb: Sorry if I install Ubuntu and it has the same issue do you think we can fix it?
[02:09] <Intee> lsb_release -a gives me all Kali shit.
[02:10] <Intee> I've gone done f*cked up somewhere.
[02:10] <leftyfb> insanity99: I would suggest installing 16.04
[02:10] <leftyfb> !language | Intee
[02:10] <Intee> Roger
[02:11] <Intee> https://imgur.com/a/3QcFR - Do I have Kali or Ubuntu installed? haha
[02:11] <leftyfb> what do you think?
[02:12] <leftyfb> nothing on that page says ubuntu
[02:12] <Intee> I just checked the USB I installed this from and it has Ubuntu server on it...
[02:12] <insanity99> Ok leftyfb I'll download that now. Does it have a lot less features?
[02:12] <insanity99> I mean if it works for now I'll be happy anyyway
[02:12] <Intee> So I HOPE Ubuntu is installed.
[02:12] <leftyfb> Intee: it's not ubuntu. it's kali
[02:13] <Intee> The hell did I manager that from a USB boot of Ubuntu server.
[02:13] <Intee> Thanks leftyfb
[02:13] <Bashing-om> insanity99: ubuntu long term stability is presently release 16.04 .
[02:14] <Intee> The hell, it doesn't have any of the Kali packages installed and all my source stuff is pure ubuntu.
[02:14] <Intee> This is strange.
[02:14] <insanity99> Bashing-om: So less flashy more stable?
[02:14] <apb1963> what's in your /etc/apt/sources.list file?  And ../sources.list.d
[02:14] <mateothegreat> Intee: quit downloading linux images from torrent sites :P
[02:14] <apb1963> Intee, ^^^
[02:15] <leftyfb> apb1963: it's not ubuntu
[02:15] <Bashing-om> insanity99: 17.10 has support for 9 months from date of release .. 16.04 has 5 years support .
[02:15] <apb1963> leftyfb, that's what I assume, but it should identify the issue better.
[02:15] <leftyfb> not really
[02:16] <Rainbow7> namaste
[02:16] <insanity99> Ok. Will USB image writer be good enough to make a reliable live usb?
[02:16] <apb1963> namaste, Beni-Hana
[02:17] <Bashing-om> insanity99: From a linix install .. the sane tool to write an image is 'dd' .
[02:18] <insanity99> I've never used linux before sorry Bashing-om
[02:19] <Bashing-om> insanity99: what you are booted now though Mint is linux .
[02:20] <insanity99> Bashing-om: Yeah I just installed it today and can't get it to boot properly. As much as I like the look of it
[02:20] <insanity99> Any OS that fuctions well will do me though. I just need it to boot
[02:20] <tre99> anybody ever done linux from scratch? (lfs)
[02:21] <Bashing-om> insanity99: There are a number of releases of 'buntu ; a wide range of choice for the desk top that you "might" prefer .
[02:22] <insanity99> this has the best community for support though right Bashing-om?
[02:22] <guiverc> tre99, this is a Ubuntu support channel - even if someone has used from-scratch, they may not reply as your question is off-topic; maybe try #ubuntu-discuss  or elsewhere
[02:24] <Bashing-om> insanity99: ubuntu support is what sold ne to stay with it as my operating system of choice - many years ago . Check out xubuntu : https://xubuntu.org/download .
[02:24] <pennTeller_> 0ad
[02:26] <insanity99> Bashing-om: So these flavours can get support yes? but Mint can't?
[02:26] <Bashing-om> insanity99: yepper .
[02:26] <Bashing-om> !flavours | insanity99
[02:28] <guiverc> insanity99, official flavors are pretty easy to spot - xubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu-mate, kubuntu, ubuntu-budgie, ...
[02:28] <insanity99> Right ok thanks
[02:29] <insanity99> Guy on the mint channel thinks my laptop is dying...
[02:29] <tre99> guiverc: sorry
[02:29] <insanity99> gonna install ubuntu and see how it goes
[02:31] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Not dying .. just no graphic's driver for the GUI .
[02:32] <insanity99> Oh good
[02:33] <insanity99> writing the usb now
[02:34] <Bashing-om> insanity99: decide on the flavour you prefer, get it installed, come back then with any questions that you may have .
[02:37] <Rainbow7> anyone know of a repository UI/listing for all the subjective best or very worthwhile software?
[02:38] <guiverc> Rainbow7, that is very subjective (best?!!) - each repo defines where it comes from & ...... - have you tried the software.boutique (app.store) - it tries to pick 'best' but again subjective..
[02:38] <leftyfb> Rainbow7: that's not a thing
[02:39] <guiverc> software.boutique is the application front-store for ubuntu-mate; if you select software it has it but don't have repo in your lists, it adds it as required...
[02:47] <leftyfb> Rainbow7: You should focus on installing software you need to accomplish your goals. Not install a bunch of software because somewhere someone labeled it "best"
[02:57] <donofrio> how do I get the "receive-key" out of an 'add-apt-repository?'
[02:59] <MobileInsanity99> Hi guys this is insanity99 on my phone now. Trying to install ubuntu but having the same problem. Incredibly fast scrolling list of checks I think? With [ok] and [failed]
[02:59] <segersjerry> Rainbow7, If I were faced with that desire, I would look into alternativeto.net
[03:00] <Bashing-om> !md5sum
[03:00] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: ^^
[03:02] <MobileInsanity99> Bashing-om ok doing this now
[03:03] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: K, we will get through this .
[03:04] <Intee> I didn't download from torrent site apb1963 mateothgreat haha. I did however use some python script I found that is like a 'easy' way to install packages that come default on Kali
[03:04] <MobileInsanity99> Thank you Bashing-om. It got to 50 odd then rebooted?
[03:04] <darkzin> https://pastebin.com/aaR6scB3
[03:04] <Intee> It must have somehow changed my distro because I Still have the boot USB I loaded this server from and it's def Ubuntu server haha.
[03:05] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: 1st is to verify the downloaded .iso file, then verify the copy .
[03:08] <Intee> If anyone cares, the script I used that messed with my distro: https://github.com/LionSec/katoolin
[03:11] <dlam> i got randomly slow wifi with "Intel Wireless 7260" ...anyonw know about this?   o
[03:11] <dlam> (i'm on 16.04)
[03:14] <MobileInsanity99> Sorry Bashing-om now I can't even get into my mint boot to do the check
[03:15] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: changed the boot priority to the drive holding the mint install ?
[03:17] <MobileInsanity99> Bashing-om nah. It just suddenly booted after several attempts. Its strange that the ubuntu live usb is having the exact same issue with the scrolling text right?
[03:19] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: Well, yeah .. unless uou have set it so .. should not see the boot messages .
[03:29] <insanity99> Bashing-om: the md5 checksum is ok
[03:29] <insanity99> b47e23601d56533fb01a941ef1794e57
[03:30] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Great . next is to check the copy to the USB : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck . " check disk for defects" .
[03:32] <insanity99> Ok thanks Bashing-om. Oh yeah sudo lshw -C display no longer shows unclaimed
[03:37] <Bashing-om> Intee: well. progress made :) .. " try ubuntu " also had good results ?
[03:39] <rocketeer99> I have a question about Firefox touchscreen scrolling in 16.04 - it doesn't seem to be working for me even if I run it with env MOZ_USEXINPUT2=1 or play with about:config
[03:39] <Bashing-om> Intee: Opps .. bad high light .. sorry for the ping /
[03:39] <rocketeer99> Anyone had any luck getting it working? It works in chrome // chromium, and a number of other apps
[03:40] <Intee> Haha all g man.  I did it by setting nomodeset
[03:40] <MobileInsanity99> Rather than soft splash?
[03:41] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: Should not be needed .. as with AMD the driver is in the kernel . Need to get the AMD driver working .
[03:42] <MobileInsanity99> You mean soft splash isn't required?
[03:42] <MobileInsanity99> Oh I see
[03:42] <MobileInsanity99> Okay what's next Bashing-om
[03:42] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: No, I mean that the boot parameter nomodeset should not have been needed .
[03:43] <mike602> Hello. Has anyone noticed that apt is very very slow? I try to update my system or download software via apt and it freezes at "connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com" Never had this issue in the past and been having this issue for about a month now. Tried to change the server as well and no change. Thanks
[03:43] <donofrio> how do I get the "receive-key" out of an 'add-apt-repository?'
[03:44] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: Run ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' . See if you pull in any graphic stuff .
[03:47] <pavlushka> rocketeer99: for mozilla/firefox related issues, there is a network moznet/irc.mozilla.org with a #firefox dedicated channel :)
[03:48] <rocketeer99> pavlushka: So sorry, thank you for letting me know
[03:50] <pavlushka> donofrio: try "gpg --recv-keys key-id"
[03:51] <MobileInsanity99> Bashing-om is that meant to work from the live usb or only after I install it?
[03:52] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: Sorry, thought you were installed . Yes the update from the install .
[03:52] <MobileInsanity99> Haha sorry, no I hadn't gotten that far. Running the install now
[03:53] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: :) .. patience Bashing-om .
[03:54] <donofrio> pavlushka, I'll try
[03:55] <pavlushka> mike602: May be your networking conf is a little messed up, so it takes time to get the routing, are you connected using two interfaces simultaneously? like the wired lan and wifi?
[03:55] <MobileInsanity99> I appreciate it Bashing-om
[03:56] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: Good folks deserve to be running ubuntu :P
[03:56] <pavlushka> ha ha ha
[03:56] <mike602> @pavlushka have this issue on 2 machines. One is connected via ethernet and other is via wifi, both with same issue. Other than that, my internet is running fast
[03:58] <MobileInsanity99> The support is vastly better haha
[03:59] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: And ya got about 600 looking over our shoulders :)
[03:59] <pavlushka> lol
[03:59] <MobileInsanity99> On mint I just got told my pc is dead
[04:00] <MobileInsanity99> Which hopefully it isn't lol
[04:00] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: So far we know .,.. so good .
[04:05] <MobileInsanity99> Bashing-om this install is damn fast. So should I boot straight into nomodeset again or try soft splash?
[04:05] <pavlushka> mike602: have tried the "select the best server" option on may be "repository & updates"? (could be even net neutrality issue)
[04:06] <bugbunny> Reset the router?
[04:07] <mike602> @pavlushka, yes I tried that and same result :(
[04:07] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: I do anticpate that nomodeset is set .. will at some point look and remove it .. see what you have at this time  as to the system's functionality .
[04:07] <pavlushka> mike602: <bugbunny> Reset the router?
[04:08] <bugbunny> Sometimes routers can be finicky when left on for very long time
[04:08] <bugbunny> Since you are experiencing issues on two seperate machines
[04:09] <mike602> Yes, I reset my router as well, it doesn't seem to be an issue w/ my internet though as everything else is running really fast
[04:09] <bugbunny> I tried to lookup what is your issue exactly, I couldn't find it, what is the problem exactly?
[04:10] <mike602> @bugbunny, updating ubuntu 16.04.4 is very very slow and instalilng software as well. never had this issue before.
[04:10] <mike602>  it freezes at "connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com"
[04:11] <bugbunny> Have you tried other mirrors?
[04:11] <MobileInsanity99> Bashing-om okay booting. I have flickering purple and the ubuntu logo. No scrolling text through. So that's different
[04:13] <bugbunny> mike602: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-select-the-fastest-apt-mirror-on-ubuntu-linux
[04:13] <mike602> @bugbunny, I already tried other mirrors w/ same issue
[04:14] <bugbunny> What mirrors have you tried?
[04:14] <bugbunny> mike602: Mean time, apt install mtr; mtr -t us.archive.ubuntu.com
[04:15] <mike602> @bugbunny, server for united states and archive.linux.duke.edu
[04:15] <MobileInsanity99> Bashing-om hmm set nomodeset and it seems to be hung on a purple screen :/ no flickering
[04:16] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: UNgood . How long has it sat on this screen ?
[04:17] <MobileInsanity99> I don't think it matters which is set. It just seems to be random whether or not it boots. This time I am in on quiet splash. Very fast boot Bashing-om
[04:18] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: If ya can boot, there will be a boot log we can look at .
[04:23] <Bashing-om> MobileInsanity99: What machine is this by the way .. a laptop ?
[04:23] <insanity99> Bashing-om, does this log help? https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/Mkeif~IgWMODt0fegLcRbQ
[04:23] <insanity99> Yeah, sony vaio
[04:26] <insanity99> I'm meant to be in uni in a few hours but been up all night trying to sort this, because I really need it working
[04:28] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Ya got another hard drive in that machine " 0x41: Dirty bit is set. Fs was not properly unmounted and some data may be corrupt. " .
[04:29] <insanity99> Bashing-om, huh...strange. Should only have the one HDD, and nothing in the usb
[04:31] <insanity99> Bashing-om, https://imgur.com/a/KxOGJ
[04:36] <gracious1> oon
[04:45] <Bashing-om> insanity99: About a third through the system log . be a while yet reading .
[04:46] <insanity99> ouch sorry
[04:52] <donofrio> pavlushka, nope not key just "key0id" not a key id: skipping
[04:54] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic artful
[05:04] <pavlushka> donofrio: key/keyid supposed to be replaced by some alphanumeric number which is the key of some owner/packager/signer
[05:09] <pavlushka> donofrio: for instance "gpg --receive-keys D7F6C175" and for that you have to know the key/keyid
[05:10] <pavlushka> donofrio: for more try "man gpg"
[05:11] <insanity99> Whats tthat Bashing-om ?
[05:11] <gg> I need help with soundcard configuration in Kubuntu, can I ask here?
[05:12] <hateball> !ask | gg
[05:12] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Just checking ^ what relese you installed . what have you in ' cat /var/log/Xorg.failsafe.log ' ?
[05:13] <floki> hi
[05:14] <gg> the soundcard is recognized through an lspci -v query, a list of soundcards is listed in system settings "audio video " tab but there's no sound icon and I have done something I can't undo. I've also uninstalled and reinstalled pulse
[05:15] <gg> testing various profiles returns no sound
[05:17] <gg> Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) Subsystem: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller
[05:17] <insanity99> http://termbin.com/4nb4 Bashing-om
[05:22] <Bashing-om> insanity99: fatal : -> " (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration." I do not know bit as we also have ACPI errors try this : http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html to update the DSDT .
[05:23] <Bashing-om> bit/but*
[05:26] <insanity99> Ok, so just download and run the script?
[05:26] <insanity99> Bashing-om,
[05:27] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Yeah, that is the easy way . But can also do it manually if ya want to know what is to do .
[05:34] <insanity99> huh, files doesn't seen to laaunch Bashing-om
[05:35] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Nuatilus the file manager ? in admin mode ?
[05:37] <Bashing-om> insanity99: ^^ what returns ' echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE ' ?
[05:37] <floki> root nautilus
[05:38] <insanity99> x11 bas
[05:38] <insanity99> Bashing-om,
[05:40] <Bashing-om> insanity99: K. then the wayland session is not a factor . File manager should work as is // (But there is a possibility that the drive has issues )
[05:41] <insanity99> (nautilus:5360): Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to register client: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[05:41] <insanity99> ** (nautilus:5360): CRITICAL **: Another desktop manager in use; desktop window won't be created
[05:41] <insanity99> Nautilus-Share-Message: Called "net usershare info" but it failed: Failed to execute child process "net" (No such file or directory)
[05:41] <insanity99> It launched despite that message Bashing-om
[05:42] <insanity99> You think it is a hardware issue?
[05:43] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Not enough info yet to point to hard ware failure . tj-'s script complete ? rebooted ?
[05:44] <insanity99> Oh and I don't know how to run the script? When I click the script it opens gedit
[05:44] <insanity99> rather than runs the commands
[05:45] <insanity99> Bashing-om, sorry
[05:46] <Bashing-om> insanity99: is the script changed to executable ? sudo chmod +x
[05:49] <insanity99> Ah ok I think it is done Bashing-om
[05:49] <insanity99> Bashing-om, output: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/KasyFtJgDGxdUx2lQFM9NQ
[05:52] <Bashing-om> insanity99: reboot and see ?? old box that the DSDT is " acpi_osi=Windows 2012 " ??
[05:53] <insanity99> Yeah I guess it is a few years old now haha. Ok gonna reboot
[05:53] <AndroUser> Test
[05:54] <AndroUser> Hey
[05:55] <s10gopal> external display is not detected , hp laptop ay008tx on ubuntu 14.04lts
[05:57] <insanity99> Bashing-om, I just rebooted three times. You genius
[05:58] <insanity99> It is working :D
[05:59] <Netmage> Does anyone know if there is an option to import iphone photos into ubuntu ?
[05:59] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Well, wonders never cease but the thanks and cookies belong to TJ- .
[06:00] <insanity99> Bashing-om, Did you not expect it to work then?
[06:00] <Bashing-om> insanity99: More of a maybe - hope so :)
[06:01] <insanity99> Okay now it works I wanna learn how to be a competent linux user, learn the ins and outs and what have you :)
[06:01] <allizom> Netmage: have you tried connecting the thing?
[06:01] <insanity99> I appreciate the dedication you showed Bashing-om
[06:06] <Bashing-om> insanity99: It's ubuntu - one for all and all for 1 .
[06:07] <insanity99> :)
[06:07] <insanity99> I've been learning to program lately. Maybe that will help me learn all this command line stuff
[06:08] <Bashing-om> insanity99: You are encourgaed to go to mint and relate the resolution . :P
[06:08] <s10gopal> xrandr output HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[06:09] <insanity99> Bashing-om, Great idea haha
[06:09] <Bashing-om> !manual | insanity99
[06:10] <insanity99> Yay, 141 pages. I love studying
[06:11] <Bashing-om> !rute | insanity99
[06:16] <s10gopal> xrandr output HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) , how to turn on external display ?
[06:20] <insanity99> Thanks Bashing-om bookmarking this
[06:21] <Bashing-om> insanity99: :) it gets as deep as you can stand it .
[06:22] <insanity99> So can I try various desktop environments or will that mess up my system haha
[06:23] <EriC^^> insanity99: i'd try them in a vm
[06:23] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Well, with the disk space you have ,,, sure . the problem is if you try and remove a DE .
[06:24] <EriC^^> also some stuff overlap, like lubuntu notification styles in unity
[06:24] <Bashing-om> insanity99: as EriC^^ says is the better ... many times with multi DEs there is also the duplication of assestts .
[06:25] <insanity99> Ahh ok. Got unity at the moment. Good for all the keyboard shortcuts
[06:28] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Do not learn unity if you want to remain mainstream, ubuntu has now gone to gnome .
[06:30] <insanity99> Ah, how do I get that then? I see a few variations of GNOME
[06:32] <Bashing-om> insanity99: You will get it when upgrading to 18.04 real soon .
[06:32] <insanity99> Big jump from 16 right? Bashing-om
[06:35] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Lessen you are on the HWE stack of 16.04 .. I took it that you had installed 17.04 from the booting kernel . 16.04 is supported 'til 2021 .
[06:37] <insanity99> Oh yeah I was told I'm best getting 16.04 over 17.10
[06:37] <insanity99> Is upgrading a big job?
[06:38] <shiroininja> insanity99: sudo apt-get install gnome. and in the login screen, you can choose it
[06:38] <hateball> insanity99: Upgrading from 16.04 to 18.04? That should be quite painless once 18.04.1 is released
[06:38] <insanity99> Cool thanks guys
[06:39] <shiroininja> np. I'm currently on ubuntu 16.04 with gnome, if you have questions
[06:39] <guiverc> insanity99, the more changes (esp. non-std sources) you make can make release-upgrading harder... also it needs disk-space (a hassle if a small partition)
[06:41] <insanity99> Thanks I'll check it out
[06:42] <s10gopal> how to connect hp laptop to TV by using hdmi cable ? i am using ubuntu 14.04 lts
[06:43] <CryptoSiD> where is the configuration of the interface when we configure it during the installation
[06:44] <CryptoSiD> i can't find it under /etc/network/*
[06:44] <asyterirc14761> quit
[06:44] <EriC^^> s10gopal: plug hdmi, go to settings > display, also settings > sound
[06:44] <s10gopal> EriC^^,  xrand : HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[06:45] <s10gopal> EriC^^, i have already connected hdmi cable and also selected hdmi in tv but still no output
[06:46] <joeblogs> mic check
[06:46] <CryptoSiD> mkkk... netplan! thats new
[06:46] <EriC^^> s10gopal: anything in "dmesg" ?
[06:46] <EriC^^> s10gopal: try the button on the laptop maybe
[06:46] <EriC^^> F4
[06:48] <s10gopal> EriC^^, dmesg log http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DyBkXWTskQ/
[06:48] <s10gopal>  , F4 not working too
[06:50] <EriC^^> s10gopal: cable problem maybe?
[06:50] <EriC^^> does it work on a different pc?
[06:50] <s10gopal> EriC^^, it works , and it is amazon basic cable
[06:51] <EriC^^> oh, no idea here
[06:52] <s10gopal> EriC^^, my laptop screen is 720P and lv is 1080 ? it can cause problem?
[06:52] <EriC^^> s10gopal: no i dont think so
[06:54] <EriC^^> s10gopal: try "udevadm monitor"
[06:54] <EriC^^> when you plug then unplug the hdmi does it say anything?
[06:54] <s10gopal> EriC^^, how?
[06:54] <EriC^^> s10gopal: it's a command
[06:55] <s10gopal> EriC^^, it dont say anything
[06:56] <EriC^^> s10gopal: has hdmi ever worked on the laptop before?
[06:56] <s10gopal> EriC^^, yes on windows 10
[06:57] <EriC^^> s10gopal: have you changed anything since? maybe there's a bios setting of some sort?
[06:58] <s10gopal> EriC^^, no
[06:58] <EriC^^> s10gopal: my hp laptop gives me some trouble sometimes with certain cable/tv, i need to unplug and plug it several times and sometimes press F4 to get it working
[06:59] <EriC^^> s10gopal: also make sure that hdmi1 or hdmi2 etc in the tv is selected properly
[06:59] <s10gopal> EriC^^, it only has one hdmi port
[07:01] <d33tah> hello! i've got a supper weird problem since yesterday. my keyboard and mouse stopped responding shortly after boot, but usb is sending power to them and I can still access the machine via ssh. any ideas? 17.04
[07:01] <ducasse> d33tah: 17.04 is long eol
[07:02] <ducasse> !eol
[07:02] <kadtas> haloo
[07:02] <d33tah> ducasse: 17.10, sorry
[07:02] <kadtas> wie geht ihnen
[07:02] <guiverc> d33tah, i would check your cable (ensure its connected correctly, and not just power pins)
[07:02] <d33tah> guiverc: they work on a different PC
[07:03] <d33tah> hm, i just tried different ports and keyboard came back... i'll try rebooting and see if it helps. weird, because dmesg says it finds the keyboard...
[07:04] <insanity99> Right I have to go. Thanks again for all the help
[07:04] <d33tah> what the hell... it works on one port but doesn't on other, but dmesg says pretty much the same stuff
[07:05] <d33tah> and bios easily reads the keyboard on the old port
[07:08] <ducasse> d33tah: does another usb device work in the 'bad' port? is one of the ports usb3 and the other usb2?
[07:08] <d33tah> ducasse: actually i updated system, rebooted and the issue didn't reappear yet
[07:08] <d33tah> so i didn't try
[07:09] <d33tah> both were usb2 according to the color though
[07:10] <s10gopal> HDMI not working , xrandr output HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[07:12] <sima> Even I witnessed at least 2 ZFS updates for Ubuntu 17.10 in the past week or so, I STILL can NOT do 'zpool export rpool' for the pool on another partition...
[07:12] <sima> It just stuck after issuing command and never finishes
[07:32] <nopcode> hey. i'm using xubuntu and after waking up the machine it tells me 'session is locked, you'll be redirected to the unlock dialog in a few seconds' or something along those lines. never happens. srlsy, wtf?
[07:33] <nopcode> i was working on this box.
[07:34] <guiverc> nopcode, do you have more than a single DEsktop on your machine?  (or added another screensaver)
[07:34] <nopcode> guiverc: i have two screens, but only one x server
[07:35] <nopcode> 4 virtual desktops (each spanning both screens)
[07:35] <nopcode> note it doesnt happen everytime only in 1/10 times or so
[07:35] <s10gopal> HDMI not working , xrandr output HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[07:35] <guiverc> nopcode, I'd switch to term, login and `ps -elf |grep creen` (or likewise) to list screensavers; if you have two running, `kill` them
[07:35] <nopcode> guiverc: you mean if i encounter the issue again?
[07:36] <nopcode> right now there is nothing
[07:36] <guiverc> yep - it won't stop issue; just lets you login via gui.  (don't know how to fix; never tried)
[07:36] <nopcode> but yeah i think switching to a text console usually doesnt work either
[07:37] <nopcode> i don't even know why it tells me that i'll be "redirected to the unlock dialog in a few seconds"
[07:37] <nopcode> first there should be no redirection ; its a single locked session
[07:37] <nopcode> second it shouldnt effing take _seconds_
[07:37] <nopcode> what year is it
[07:38] <guiverc> nopcode, if you can't switch to term; its not what I've encountered  (which was side-effect of multiple DEsktops added - exactly what you described; one unlocks the running session; the other can't unlock as its session isn't running)
[07:39] <nopcode> guiverc: i'll keep that in mind
[07:58] <s10gopal> HDMI not working , xrandr output HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[07:59] <s10gopal> it works on windows 10
[08:04] <anddam> hello, while switching to mirror protocol in sources.list, should I change http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu as well?
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> !sources | anddam
[08:35] <s10gopal> EriC^^, i dont know , but i can see output on hdmi but that screen is freesed on desktop
[08:36] <s10gopal> EriC^^, thx it is working by pressing f4
[08:39] <tyoc213> Hi there, just installed ubuntu 17.10, but I feel like sometimes the cliks on the mouse doesnt control the windows (click)
[08:39] <tyoc213> dont know if it is just a feeling or it is something of the system
[08:40] <kancil> hy
[08:41] <koolblu> tyoc213: other than the mouse issue do you like 17.10?
[08:42] <tyoc213> yes
[08:42] <tyoc213> all the other things are good I think
[08:42] <koolblu> I was thinking of upgrading but wasn't sure how buggy it was.
[08:43] <tyoc213> I have connected via teamviewer from a windows... but I can click... dont know if it is the feeling... or is because I havent used a linux from sometime now
[08:43] <tyoc213> maybe the windows manager doesnt like my clicks...
[08:43] <tyoc213> or something like that
[08:44] <koolblu> tyoc213: Is it just when you use IRC or all programs?
[08:45] <tyoc213> it seems like if something is maximized it doesnt let click correctly on some items (like the drop down of firefox at right)
[08:45] <tyoc213> well, im using irc from win xD
[08:45] <tyoc213> ff and console on lin
[08:45] <poutine> madlad
[08:45] <koolblu> (00)
[08:46] <koolblu> I'm going to blame windoze...lol
[08:47]  * koolblu has left the building.
[08:47] <tyoc213> lol
[09:06] <hfddhhhd> How do I backup my data drive? I have dual booted Ubuntu/windows 10 on my SSD and use my larger HDD as my /home and another NTFS partition for windows stuff. Now windows won't detect my drive due to some error and I plan on completely wiping the disk. How do I properly backup my encrypted /home and restore it later
[09:07] <hfddhhhd> People recommend to use dd to create a bit level copy, would that mean if I restored the backup image, it'll get written to a particular location?
[09:44] <hfddhhhd> Should I backup my partition table too if I need to restore?
[09:50] <usernew> When I try to launch steam from terminal,it starts steam but now I dont want terminal to run in bg.So when i close the terminal it also closes the steam program. I dont want that to happen. Any advice? And yes i know i can launch steam via menu but i want to use terminal
[09:53] <hfddhhhd> usernew put an & after typing the command and hit enter
[09:53] <hfddhhhd> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1499837
[09:54] <hfddhhhd> What it does ^
[09:55] <usernew> thanks bud
[10:00] <Triffid_Hunter> hfddhhhd: that's often insufficient, nohup or setsid before steam should work though
[10:00] <bazou2> #asterisk
[10:01] <Netmage> Does anyone know a tool to transfer iphone pictures from iphone to ubuntu ?
[10:02] <Triffid_Hunter> Netmage: dunno about iphone, but my android just shows up as an MTP filesystem device from whichj I can simply copy the photos
[10:03] <bazou2> #kamailio
[10:12] <tizzja> ku
[10:16] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:17] <yogg> Hi
[10:19] <yogg> I try to move from netwok/interfaces to netplan. What I currently not have found is how to up an interface without an IP address in netplan (manual in network/interfaces)
[10:21] <newuser> how can i learn more about ">" command in terminal ?
[10:23] <BluesKaj> yogg you can avoid netplan by using ifupdown and the interfaces file
[10:24] <SimonNL> newuser: does this help any.   https://robots.thoughtbot.com/input-output-redirection-in-the-shell
[10:28] <newuser> SinoNL thanks dude and cool website
[10:31] <brainwash> nopcode: more info here https://xubuntu.org/news/screen-locking-in-xubuntu-14-04/
[10:31] <brainwash> nopcode: it could be a bug in your case, so best to check launchpad for existing bugs
[10:41] <xinobi> I need help in order to debug wkhtmltopdf the thing is it works on my development environment but it doesn't on my production environment both are ubuntu 16.04 and the binaries installed the same way
[10:42] <xinobi> its quite clear that something is missing but not sure what
[10:49] <SimonNL> xinobi: just a thought maybe purging and installing helps ?
[10:49] <SimonNL> wkhtmltopdf  that is
[10:52] <xinobi> SimonNL: i've used the repo version and I acknowledge that it needs to be patched with qt in order to render footers etc so I've used the binary provided the thing is I've installed both environments the same way development works just great but production server nope
[10:54] <SimonNL> xinobi: I just installed it and found it's working correctly for me as far as I can tell.
[10:56] <xinobi> SimonNL: how can I debug this?
[10:57] <SimonNL> This program requires an X11 server to run.  <=  do both machine meat this requirement?
[10:57] <SimonNL> xinobi: my level of knowledge isn't that high.
[10:59] <SimonNL> but if at least one out ten responses from me is good I'm happy
[11:03] <xinobi> SimonNL: you're cool, what possible libraries am I missing here? I'm using a PHP framework actually the binary is called from it so possible some PHP stuff since the binary works fine from cli
[11:10] <SimonNL> xinobi: have you tried completely removing and re-installing wkhtmltopdf ?
[11:14] <SimonNL> https://git.io/vx2rc  xinobi tell me if you need translation.
[11:20] <xinobi> SimonNL: thanks https://pastebin.com/PgZ77rf8
[11:22] <SimonNL> xinobi: oops forgot to say I'm using mint
[11:22] <SimonNL> old version also. 14.04
[11:24] <xinobi> SimonNL: no problem https://pastebin.com/hBEpNstT
[11:37] <OreoCollas> I am setting up an FTP server. I would like to set it up where USERA has access to folders USERA, OWNER, and ADMIN and USERB would have access to folders USERB, and ADMIN where the ADMIN folder is the same folder. Anyone know how I can set this up? I am using vsftpd.
[11:39] <ioria> OreoCollas, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/vsftpd#To_chroot_users
[11:39] <Butterfly_> wow, what a riddle :D
[11:40] <Butterfly_> put commas in the right place to make a sentence easier to understand :)
[11:40] <stafer601> Hey guys!!
[11:40] <Butterfly_> hello stafer601 , how can we help you ?
[11:41] <stafer601> Oh I don’t need any help I’m just to be a part of a community
[11:41] <stafer601> Here*
[11:42] <hehehe> hey guy
[11:43] <OreoCollas> ioria:Is there something that might explain those options better? I have no idea what settings I would want for my application.
[11:43] <hehehe> guys
[11:43] <hehehe> how I can add a 32 bit bootloader for lubuntu 64 bit distro? idea is to run it from usb stick on intel atom netbook
[11:43] <Butterfly_> having a conversation with hehehe would be so awkward, it would seem like i'm just giggling every time i address hehehe :)
[11:44] <hehehe> :)))))
[11:44] <ubuntum> here
[11:44] <ubuntum> :)
[11:44] <ioria> OreoCollas, that is just to restrict a user in a specific directory ... nothing more
[11:44] <ubuntum> I wonder if http://www.linuxium.com.au/how-tos may work with lubunt
[11:44] <Richard_Cavell> ubuntum, you might want this: https://mattgadient.com/2016/07/11/linux-dvd-images-and-how-to-for-32-bit-efi-macs-late-2006-models/
[11:45] <ubuntum> Richard_Cavell: neat find!
[11:46] <OreoCollas> ioria: I know how to restrict them to their user directory. That would be fine if I could mount the ADMIN folder in more than one directory?
[11:49] <ioria> OreoCollas, never done... in chroot you should not have access to other directories
[11:50] <joensrim> I Use linux mint..i've got some problem..any one can help me?
[11:51] <OreoCollas> I want the users to have access to their own personal directories as well as any group directories that they may need to use. is there some way to accomplish this if chroot won't work?
[11:51] <xinobi> I've found that xvfb is installed but not running
[11:53] <guiverc> !mint | joensrim
[11:53] <ubuntum> Richard_Cavell: done, under EFI boot devices in a boot menu there are two windows bootloaders
[11:54] <ubuntum> lubuntu yet to show up
[11:54] <ubuntum> I have used diskcreator to make a bootable usb
[11:55] <Richard_Cavell> ubuntum, I can't help beyond giving you that link - I have problems with it myself
[11:56] <ubuntum> there is http://www.linuxium.com.au/how-tos
[11:56] <ubuntum> but it does not support lubuntu yet
[11:57] <ubuntum> in theory it may be able to respin lubuntu iso
[11:57] <SimonNL> joensrim: irc://irc.spotchat.org/#linuxmint-help   <= use this link to connect
[12:13] <xinobi> SimonNL: apparently it seems wkhtmltopdf can't connect to xvfb server /usr/local/bin/wkhtmltopdf google.com google.pdf QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display  Aborted (core dumped)
[12:16] <SimonNL> xinobi: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/192642/wkhtmltopdf-qxcbconnection-could-not-connect-to-display
[12:17] <TJ-> ubuntum: is your problem the PC has a 32-bit UEFI (whereas Ubuntu installers only have 64-bit GRUB UEFI) ?
[12:17] <mingdao> TeamViewer should be installed from which repo, or it's website?
[12:18] <xinobi> SimonNL: so this works fine xvfb-run wkhtmltopdf http://www.google.com google.pdf
[12:19] <mingdao> The TeamViewer website has https://download.teamviewer.com/download/linux/teamviewer_amd64.deb ... can't find it in any of my repos in sources.list.
[12:19] <SimonNL> xinobi: if all other requierments are met I assume it does
[12:20] <SimonNL> xinobi: try it
[12:21] <frostschutz> mingdao, it's not a linux software
[12:21] <xinobi> SimonNL: yes it works but I'm using the wkhtmltopdf from a php framework
[12:21] <SimonNL> xinobi: that is where I am lost
[12:22] <xinobi> SimonNL: I think this might work /usr/bin/xvfb-run -- /usr/local/bin/wkhtmltopdf
[12:22] <SimonNL> whats a php framework I would almost ask but never mind
[12:22] <xinobi> SimonNL: lets test it
[12:22] <SimonNL> go ahead
[12:23] <mingdao> frostschutz: meaning what?
[12:24] <SimonNL> mingdao: it's linux but frostschutz probably meant not Ubuntu so no support for it here
[12:24] <frostschutz> mingdao, it uses wine to run windows exe
[12:24] <SimonNL> mingdao: and yes it's website
[12:26] <mingdao> frostschutz: I think you're mistaken. I have it installed on Gentoo, and no wine there.
[12:26] <mingdao> SimonNL: It's okay that it's not supported; was just wondering if there were not some esoteric repo that might be available. Thanks
[12:27] <mingdao> SimonNL: Just reading it's going to require me to figure out the systemd method to start the teamviewer daemon. Assuming "teamviewer --daemon enable && systemctl enable teamviewerd.service --now" or similar.
[12:29] <SimonNL> mingdao: https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Linux/Repository/td-p/14169
[12:30] <SimonNL> mingdao: ^ might even be a good place for your questions
[12:31] <mingdao> SimonNL: think me and ldd got 'er done, but thanks for the link ... will go read
[12:32] <frostschutz> mingdao, oh hey, that's new... to me anyway. """The new Linux Host was first released at the beginning of May 2017, when TeamViewer abandoned WINE for the first time and launched a native Linux support."""  https://www.teamviewer.com/en/company/press/teamviewer's-new-native-linux-host-now-comes-with-wake-on-lan/
[12:32] <mingdao> frostschutz: Gentoo has been a great learning resource for me; reading ebuilds for such as that.
[12:33] <mingdao> frostschutz: sometimes at work a router on a remote site needs it's configuration fixed for me to reach it; tv is the only way for me to connect with someone's windows laptop
[12:37] <mingdao> fwiw, anyone else using teamviewer with 17.10; Incoming remote control connections won't work with Wayland, only Xorg sessions are support (as of TeamViewer 13.1.3026)
[12:41] <ducasse> mingdao: that's not very surprising, but you would need to take that up with teamviewer support.
[12:43] <jaydemir> I have a USB wifi adapter that won't work out of the box on Ubuntu. It came with drivers on a CD but they don't work. Do I have any alternative solutions or am I beat?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> those drivers are most likely for windows
[12:44] <jaydemir_> sorry a firefox update kicked me off
[12:44] <jaydemir_> >.>
[13:00] <mingdao> ducasse: it's nothing to take up, it's just a fact that I was passing along to the channel which I learned by installing and launching it
[13:00] <mingdao> ducasse: hence, the "fwiw" at the beginning of my statement
[13:16] <stephen101> in short i installed a new graphics card, and removed the nvidia drivers. and now on boot i am seeing failed to load kernel modules.. here is the log i took from grep and others https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pq5DdJvw9j/ any help would be appreciated.
[13:16] <stephen101> it doesnt stop my boot or anything its just a annoying persistent error.
[13:17] <pragmaticenigma> How did you remove the drivere stephen101 ?
[13:17] <pragmaticenigma> How were the drivers originally installed stephen101 ?
[13:18] <TJ-> stephen101: 'f71882fg' is a hardware monitoring device so likely not directly related to the GPU change
[13:19] <stephen101> used purge command. and ya i am trying to figure the issue out as to why.
[13:20] <TJ-> stephen101: and you can ignore "gpu-manager[699]: Error: can't open /lib/modules/4.13.0-37-generic/updates/dkms" - that is expected when no out-of-tree modules are being used
[13:21] <stephen101> what about the failed kernel modules?
[13:22] <TJ-> stephen101: that's the one I mentioned above: "Failed to insert 'f71882fg': Device or resource busy"
[13:25] <stephen101> could it be i installed lm-sensors and let it put the sensors to the kernel?
[13:26] <TJ-> stephen101: yes, but if that driver is being loaded that means the PC has hardware that matches it... so might be worth checking dmesg to see if there are clues as to why it doesn't load
[13:27] <stephen101> the sensor app seems to be working properly
[13:27] <TJ-> stephen101: can you show us "pastebinit <( dmesg )"
[13:29] <stephen101> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HtTRWtGS93/
[13:29] <TJ-> stephen101: looks like line 740 onwards refers to the f71882fg
[13:31] <stephen101> ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver
[13:32] <TJ-> stephen101: yes, the next line points to an ACPI entry for \SEN which I'd guess is \SENSOR
[13:32] <TJ-> stephen101: does "lsmod | grep f71882fg" list that module - meaning that it is loaded despite the warnings
[13:34] <stephen101> doesnt do anything
[13:34] <TJ-> stephen101: there are a lot of BIOS related errors reported; 1st thing I'd do is check if there's a more recent BIOS from Dell than the installed "BIOS 1.0.13 02/09/2009"
[13:34] <stephen101> doesn't
[13:34] <stephen101> ya i have the latest
[13:35] <TJ-> stephen101: no ourput means that the module was not loaded
[13:35] <TJ-> stephen101: I think the best thing to do is simply prevent that module from trying to load
[13:36] <TJ-> stephen101: echo "blacklist f71882fg" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-f71882fg.conf "
[13:37] <stephen101> the unable to get dell signature came after installing experimental nvidia drivers.
[13:38] <elfranne> trying to investigate a usbc dock with screen flickering ... where to start ?
[13:38] <stephen101> i entered that command, rebooting now
[13:39] <stephen101> well that error is gone now.
[14:05] <NDx33xsy> elfranne: hello
[14:06] <elfranne> NDx33xsy, hi
[14:12] <bhanz> how can i check network interface stats via sar ?
[14:12] <pragmaticenigma> bhanz, what is "sar" ?
[14:13] <bhanz> pragmaticenigma: sysstat utility
[14:14] <pragmaticenigma> bhanz, The "-n" option: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/en/man1/sar.sysstat.1.html
[14:19] <pythonick> hello
[14:19] <pythonick> i have to install ubuntu right now
[14:20] <pythonick> i know there will be the new version in about 1 month
[14:20] <pythonick> can i download the 16.04 and then upgrade without re-installing everythings?
[14:20] <pythonick> or...can i download a snapshot and install the 18.04 now?
[14:20] <pragmaticenigma> pythonick, please do not use enter key for punctuation
[14:20] <pythonick> pragmaticenigma, sorry!
[14:21] <pragmaticenigma> pythonick, You can install the beta version of 18.04 and packages will be updatd to match the release 18.04 version when the final release is out. For more information /join #ubuntu+1
[14:23] <pythonick> pragmaticenigma, do you think it will be a pain to upgrade from 16.04 ?
[14:23] <pythonick> (it is just curiosity)
[14:23] <btp> I do not think it will be a pain.
[14:24] <pythonick> btp, do you advice to install 16.04 now and then upgrade the system?
[14:24] <pythonick> (without reinstalling everything... i mean via apt directly)
[14:24] <pragmaticenigma> The upgrade from 16.04 will probably not be released until June though. It will be easy to upgrade to 18.04 when that upgrade release is ready
[14:24] <compdoc> 18.04 might be a little too new. wait for a while after it comes out to make sure there are no problems
[14:25] <pythonick> ok thank you!
[14:25] <btp> I would do 16.04, and wait until the major bugs are smashed.
[14:25] <pragmaticenigma> pythonick, I'm personally on 16.04 and will wait until late fall before I upgrade to 18.04. Let the major bugs get chased out first
[14:25] <elfranne> for a regular user no, if you re a bit advanced and make things deep in the system maybe. There  a few major changes between those two
[14:26] <TJ-> pythonick: I've done 2 16.04>18.04 do-release-upgrade's in the last 2 weeks, 1 -server 1 -desktop, and both have been fine
[14:26] <compdoc> I cant wait to try out 18.04
[14:26] <onio1> I am trying to get my linux executable to autostart if it crashes, but seem to be having problems any suggestions?
[14:26] <pythonick> ok yeah i would like to try it too :D
[14:27] <btp> sudo apt install virtualbox
[14:27] <pythonick> at the moment i am on windows 10 pro :D ahah i had to install this OS for a specific platform that only works here.... but now i am done :D
[14:27] <btp> Have at'er boys
[14:28] <compdoc> Ill wait
[14:28] <ezio> anyone having problems installing php7.1
[14:28] <pythonick> ok i go for 16.04 now
[14:31] <pragmaticenigma> onio1, This isn't the best channel for that type of support. You would be better served with a channel dedicated to programming and system development.
[14:31] <onio1> pragmaticenigma: thanks
[14:36] <ramsub07> hello how do i add an existing user into sudoers' list
[14:37] <TJ-> onio1: if the executable is a system service, systemd units can be configure to do the restart control
[14:37] <TJ-> ramsub07: "sudo adduser <username> sudo"
[14:45] <Digb> i did systemctl disable lightdm.service so that i could play around with getting x working on its own. i now need to enable lightdm again but systemctl enable lightdm.service gives an error about no installation config
[14:45] <Digb> here is a screenshot of the problem https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/428557124893671464/428565301693513728/unknown.png
[14:46] <Digb> using ubuntu server if that changes anything
[14:46] <ezio> Can someone look at this vagrant provisioning script for 16.04 and surmise as to why I'm suddenly getting this dependency error stuff this morning?
[14:46] <ezio> https://gist.github.com/bluebaroncanada/f89290442fc465da47cb1eeadc7cbf61
[14:50] <TJ-> Digb: looks like you've somehow altered /etc/init.d/lightdm and/or /lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service
[14:50] <Digb> it works ok if i do systemctl start lightdm.service
[14:50] <Digb> start works enable does not
[14:51] <TJ-> Digb: which ubuntu release is it?
[14:51] <Digb> ubuntu-17.10.1-server-amd64
[14:52] <NDx33xsy> Digb: hi
[14:52] <Digb> NDx33xsy: hello
[14:54] <TJ-> Digb: the 'enable' operation does 2 things. 1) it calls the sysv-init update-rc.d to enable the /etc/init.d/lightdm via a symlink in /etc/rc2.d/lightdm and it enables the systemd unit /lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service - I can't reproduce your error here which suggests you've changed something affecting those in your tinkering
[14:54] <Kingsy> what is the best way to install php 7.1 on ubuntu 16.04 ? I am trying to use the ondrej/php repo buyt it looks like its broken --> php7.1-common : Depends: libssl1.1 (>= 1.1.0) but it is not installable
[14:55] <TJ-> !info openssl xenial
[14:55] <Digb> TJ-: hmm i'm trying to think what i could have changed
[14:55] <Digb> i don't remember changing anything more complexc than .xinitrc
[14:55] <TJ-> Kingsy: looks like php7.1-common requires openssl 1.1.0 which is in the forthcoming 18.04 release
[14:56] <TJ-> Digb: I'm wondering if there's a an option to systemctl to make it more verbose?
[14:56] <Digb> quite possibly
[14:56] <Digb> i don't see the word verbose in the man page
[14:57] <Kingsy> TJ-: so there is no way of getting it on 16.04 until the new LTS?
[14:57] <pavlos> ezio: are you missing php7.1-common ?
[14:58] <TJ-> Digb: no, it looks like it's already being verbose based on this man-page comment: "This command will print the actions executed. This output may be suppressed by passing --quiet."
[14:58] <Digb> ah ok
[14:59] <TJ-> Kingsy: not without having to backport opensll 1.1.0 which isn't going to happen! It's been a massive challenge for 18.04 to move all the important packages to use 1.1.0 rather than 1.0.2
[15:00] <TJ-> Digb: How about running the command under supervision of strace and seeing which files/dirs it tries to touch? as in "sudo strace -o /tmp/systemctl.log -f -e trace=file systemctl enable lightdm.service" then looking at the log-file created?
[15:00] <Kingsy> TJ-: thanks for the information, curious, how do you find out about this? just out of curiousity? do you work on the project?
[15:01] <Digb> TJ-: i'll try that, i just checked to see what /etc/rc2.d/lightdm contains and found that it doesn't exist
[15:01] <TJ-> Kingsy: I follow development closely, work on fixing bugs, etc.
[15:02] <Kingsy> very cooL!
[15:02] <Kingsy> TJ-: well I thank you for the effort in preperation for using 18.04. I'm really looking forward to it :D
[15:02] <TJ-> Digb: check the header of /etc/init.d/lightdm - the comments in the header have 'pseudo' code that update-rc.d uses to figure out which symlinks to create (/etc/rcX.d/ where X is the old-style 'runlevel' - '2' is the standard multi-user runlevel but it likely adds to others too)
[15:03] <rud0lf> i like small thing they did with xubuntu bionic - now terminal window asks for confirmation if you want to close it with a process running
[15:03] <rud0lf> helps when you have 12 terminals opened
[15:04] <TJ-> rud0lf: I use tmux even as my login shell so that can never happen - tmux is ideal if you use multiple terminal windows
[15:05] <ezio> pavlos, yeah, sorry, I should've also said: php7.1-common : Depends: libssl1.1 (>= 1.1.0) but it is not installable
[15:05] <rud0lf> and python 3.6
[15:05] <rud0lf> fresh served
[15:06] <Digb> TJ-: are you refering to something here? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/189722126360641536/428570585703120916/unknown.png
[15:10] <TJ-> Digb: you got it :) See the line "Default-Start:" ? the numbers are runlevels that the service should be enabled for. When update-rc.d is called, it reads that line, then creates symlinks for each runlevel so you end up with /etc/rc.2/lightdm > /etc/init.d/lightdm /etc/rc3.d/lightdm > /etc/init.d/lightdm ... etc.
[15:11] <Digb> ahhh ok
[15:11] <Digb> so i should look in those places and see whats missing?
[15:12] <TJ-> Digb: try calling it directly yourself: "sudo update-rc.d lightdm defaults"
[15:13] <Digb> it didn't error
[15:13] <Digb> systemctl enable lightdm.service still does though
[15:13] <TJ-> Digb: is there a /lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service file?
[15:14] <Digb> TJ-: yup
[15:15] <TJ-> Digb: OOOoooo! I can reproduce it here on 18.04... give me a few minutes to analyse it
[15:15] <Digb> o nice :D
[15:17] <TJ-> Digb: initial analysis: systemd unit files now require an "[Install]" section to work with the 'enable' command
[15:20] <Digb> TJ-: is /etc/init.d/lightdm a unit file?
[15:20] <Digb> i don't know much about what's going on here i'll be frank :p
[15:23] <TJ-> Digb: No, /etc/init.d/* are old Unix-style SysV-init files, kept for backward compatibility. Systemd init uses /lib/systemd/system/* and /etc/systemd/system/*
[15:23] <Digb> ok
[15:24] <TJ-> aha, it's known issue (and still not fixed!) Bug #1584575
[15:25] <Digb> ahhh ok
[15:25] <Digb> so i guess we need to add an install clause somehow?
[15:26] <concretelogic> Hi, i'm looking to get some help making a live usb from ubuntu. I mean i'm already using ubuntu but I need to make a live usb of another distro. I already followed these steps but I can't seem to open the iso image in startup disk creator. Could anyone help?
[15:26] <TJ-> Digb: yes, the last comment in the bug looks to be the way to go
[15:26] <concretelogic> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu#3
[15:27] <TJ-> Digb: tested, works. Fix coming up...
[15:28] <TJ-> Digb: " echo -e "[Install]\nAlias=display-manager.service" | sudo tee -a /lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service "
[15:28] <pavlos> concretelogic: your iso is in the Downloads dir
[15:29] <Digb> TJ-: okidoki i'll do that
[15:29] <Digb> ty so much
[15:30] <concretelogic> pavlos: I tried loading it up but it doesn't get through
[15:30] <pavlos> concretelogic: the usb stick should be empty, formatted as fat32 and df should list it as /dev/sdb or c or ...
[15:30] <kostkon> concretelogic, you could also try with unetbootin or etcher
[15:31] <pavlos> concretelogic: plug in the usb stick, dmesg | grep sdb should list it
[15:31] <concretelogic> kostkon: I will try that, thanks
[15:32] <concretelogic> pavlos: it detects the usb just fine
[15:32] <pavlos> concretelogic: ok, when you start creator, it should show it, right?
[15:33] <concretelogic> yes
[15:33] <TJ-> concretelogic: generally with ISO installer image files you write them directly to the device because they already contain the required file-systems. So e.g. "sudo dd if=$HOME/Downloads/somedistro.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=100M status=progress; sync" (where sdX is the USB device)
[15:33] <kostkon> concretelogic, which distro btw
[15:34] <pavlos> concretelogic: when you click on other, it should navigate to find the iso you want
[15:34] <concretelogic> fedora, i'm distro hopping currently to find something stable and easy that I can learn to code in through CLI
[15:34] <NDx33xsy> concretelogic: hello
[15:35] <Digb> TJ-: it worked :D ty very much
[15:35] <TJ-> Digb: that was a weird one!
[15:35] <concretelogic> NDx33xsy: hi
[15:35] <Digb> i won't have to do this whenever i disable lightdm will i?
[15:36] <Digb> well, whenever i disable and then enable
[15:37] <TJ-> Digb: not now, because you've added the missing functionality. However, if the lightdm package is ever upgraded it might over-write the current file with the original that doesn't have the change
[15:37] <Digb> ok
[15:37] <TJ-> Digb: might be worth making a copy of that file now so you can just put it back if it is overwritten
[15:37] <Digb> i'll make a note of this then
[15:37] <Digb> i can just copy this conversation somewhere
[15:37] <TJ-> Digb: "cp /lib/systemd/system/lightdm.service $HOME/"
[15:40] <concretelogic> alright, it's going through with etcher
[15:40] <concretelogic> Thanks for all the help
[16:14] <fuseteam> hello i'm trying to connect to an usb printer via a wifi router
[16:14] <fuseteam> so far i sending a print job to it returns the status message "idle - rendering complete" while the job is marked as "complete"
[16:17] <compdoc> fuseteam, how does the printer connect to the network?
[16:17] <fuseteam> via a usb port on the router
[16:18] <compdoc> doubt that will work
[16:18] <compdoc> the router cant load drivers
[16:18] <compdoc> the printer has no network port?
[16:19] <tomreyn> it can work if the router provides an lpr daemon, i've done it before
[16:19] <fuseteam> no the printer has no network port
[16:19] <fuseteam> not sure if the router provides and lpr daemon
[16:20] <fuseteam> *an
[16:20] <tomreyn> does the printer discovery at http://localhost:631 show it?
[16:20] <fuseteam> no sadly
[16:21] <compdoc> printer needs to be shared from a PC
[16:21] <tomreyn> check your router's documentation on whether it supports making printers connected to it via usb available to the LAN somehow
[16:22] <fuseteam> yes it does it points to the url http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631/printers/printername
[16:22] <tomreyn> so try configuraing this as the ipp location in your computer.
[16:23] <fuseteam> how should i do that?
[16:24] <tomreyn> using the printer configuration options your GUI provides (system settings or whatever it's called) or directly on http://localhost:631 (login with sudo credentials when prompted)
[16:25] <fuseteam> on http://localhost:631 which protocol should i use when adding printer?
[16:25] <tomreyn> internet printing protocol, ipp
[16:26] <fuseteam> so then the connection will be ipp://<IP_ADDRESS>/printers/printername?
[16:26] <tomreyn> correct
[16:27] <fuseteam> i believe that's my current set up
[16:27] <tomreyn> i see, well then i guess it doesn't work in your case. :-/
[16:27] <tomreyn> check the ppd, maybe it's wrong
[16:28] <fuseteam> how should i check the ppd?
[16:28] <tomreyn> wheny ou configured the printer, you either provided a PPD file or it autpo-selected one. make sure this one actually matches your printer. it's basically the printer specific driver file.
[16:29] <fuseteam> i'll try that
[16:29] <fuseteam> the weird part is that while the printer doesn't print
[16:29] <fuseteam> the cups server shows it as completed
[16:30] <tomreyn> try also some generic ppds like pcl or whatever makes sense for your printer. check linuxprinting.org for hints on which ppd to use.
[16:30] <fuseteam> and the status of the printers says "idle - rendering complete"
[16:30] <fuseteam> ohw the printer i'm trying to print is the hp deskjet 1000 110j series
[16:31] <fuseteam> i'll check linuxprinting.org aswell
[16:33] <SimonNL> fuseteam: whats your router brand/type  ?
[16:33] <fuseteam> it is the starbridge 1531
[16:33] <SimonNL> if you don't mind me asking
[16:33] <fuseteam> yep pretty sure it's the starbridge 1531
[16:41] <SimonNL> did you read the part   printer server installations fuseteam ?
[16:52] <noonespecial> hi everyone. i am new to ubuntu and have a question? how hard is it to run windows apps using wine
[16:53] <DiecastMessiah> noonespecial: pretty easy actually.. but not all windows programs work ..
[16:54] <TJ-> noonespecial: it's easy to 'run' them, but they may fail. The winehq appsdb has an exhaustive list of the compatibility of various versions
[16:54] <DiecastMessiah> noonespecial: winehq.org has a datebase... and if you have trouble there is a winehq channel #winehq
[16:55] <noonespecial> thank you for the info.
[17:04] <xyz111> Hi All, I'm experiencing poor performance with my graphics card. I'm using Radeon HD 7340 with the radeon driver. I was wondering if it is worth me trying AMDGPU instead? Also, how do I know if my GPU will work with the new driver - is there a list somewhere I can check? I'm running 16.04. Thanks :)
[17:14] <IRC_Llama> Testing. Can you hear me?
[17:14] <CarlFK> IRC_Llama: loud and clear.
[17:14] <peter___>  Hi, can someone help me with one little issue that i have while connecting to an openvpn. DNS stops working, I can only connect to places using the IPs not the URLs. How can I troubleshoot this?
[17:15] <Orbitor> peter___: what dns servers are you using?
[17:16] <peter___> I have tried in the VPN settings, setting the DNS to be automatic and I also tried google's <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:18] <Orbitor> peter___: any dns that isn't on your LAN should work fine. I'm not sure why it wouldn't, maybe someone with more VPN experience can chime in?
[17:18] <TJ-> peter___: is all traffic being routed via the VPN (it's set as the default gateway) if so, then the local DNS resolver may not be able to reach the local DNS servers/ISP DNS servers (if that's what is configured by default on the LAN)
[17:21] <peter___> Not sure how to check that
[17:21] <onitlikesonic> Hello, having problems with provisioning machines via preseed with the error "dpkg: error: --install needs at least one package archive file argument"  as seen here: https://pastebin.com/yzsfka2C
[17:22] <DiecastMessiah> xyz111: try glxinfo .
[17:22] <onitlikesonic> can anyone point me in the direction that i can find what the problem is? seems something is not being passed to an install... now question is.. .what ...
[17:23] <xyz111> DiecastMessiah: I typed it into a terminal, but not sure how to interpret the output
[17:24] <peter___> TJ, Okay it's working now, I made all trafic go through the VPN and that worked, thanks for mentioning that.
[17:25] <btp> Anyone know of any prebuilt i3 ubuntu flavors?
[17:27] <DiecastMessiah> xyz111: at the top there hopingull there is name of the vendor. I am newbie.. but will try to help
[17:27] <DiecastMessiah> maybe pastebin what it said
[17:28] <xyz111> DiecastMessiah: not sure that is relevant - I already know my graphics card and driver, but I'm thinking of using AMDGPU instead of radeon
[17:29] <xyz111> see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver
[17:29] <DiecastMessiah> xyz111: well i cannot if that a good thing or not.. I only had worked with nvidia
[17:30] <xyz111> ok fair enough
[17:30] <insanity99> Hey guys
[17:30] <xyz111> perhaps someone else can help with my query :) ?
[17:31] <insanity99> Anyone here use empathy for facebook accounts?
[17:32] <manonales86> hi
[17:33] <manonales86> i have a usb stick with a damaged partition table, can i use dd and copy the whole data in one block?
[17:33] <insanity99> I've entered my details to empathy but it just says 'connecting'
[17:34] <mate|Jhon> I just install ubuntu mate, and Firefox has been updated to version 59.0.2, but does not start up
[17:34] <Orbitor> manonales86: dd if=/dev/sdX of=/path/to/output
[17:34] <mate|Jhon> Are there any command for the terminal to return to previous version
[17:34] <manonales86> Orbitor, thanks and it copied the whole flash drive incuding all data and partiton table .- etc?
[17:34] <ioria> xyz111, if you really want (?) you can blacklist radeon and see if amdgpu will be loaded : edit /etc/default/grub  and add   modprobe.blacklist=radeon    to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and run sudo update-grub
[17:35] <Orbitor> manonales86: yes. you can then use a tool like photorec to recover files
[17:35] <nacc> mate|Jhon: have you tried starting firefox from the terminal to see if it is spitting an error?
[17:35] <manonales86> Orbitor, thanks
[17:36] <xyz111> ioria: is that a safe thing to do? will your suggestion automatically check if amdgpu is compatible, and if it is it'll update?
[17:36] <xyz111> and if not compatible, will it just do nothing?
[17:37] <mate|Jhon> Yes, and it’s the samè error
[17:37] <ioria> xyz111, low resolution (or a blank screen )... you open a console and remove the changes
[17:39] <xyz111> ioria, sorry a bit new to this - so my steps are: 1) Edit edit /etc/default/grub, adding modprobe.blacklist=radeon to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT 2) Run "sudo update-grub" 3) If my screen goes funny then open a terminal and remove the change and run (2) again?
[17:39] <manonales86> Orbitor, does photorec obnly recover photots?
[17:40] <ioria> xyz111, yes (remember to run sudo update-grub after any changes)
[17:40] <xyz111> ioria: thanks - do I need to have amdgpu installed already?
[17:41] <xyz111> and do I need a reboot between each sudo update-grub?
[17:41] <ioria> xyz111, it'already in the kernel
[17:41] <ioria> xyz111, yes
[17:41] <Orbitor> manonales86: it recovers all kinds of files
[17:41] <ioria> xyz111, lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r) | grep amdgpu.ko
[17:42] <xyz111> ioria: ok cool - the output of that command is "lib/modules/4.10.0-32-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu.ko"
[17:42] <xyz111> so looks like it's there!
[17:42] <ioria> xyz111, for sure
[17:43] <ioria> xyz111, wait .... that's an old kernel
[17:43] <nacc> mate|Jhon: what error? did you provide any message (I didn't see it if you did)
[17:44] <ioria> xyz111,  cat /etc/issue   please ?
[17:44] <xyz111> elementary OS Loki \n \l
[17:44] <nacc> xyz111: that's not ubuntu :)
[17:44] <ioria> xyz111,  ^ nacc
[17:45] <nacc> !elementary | xyz111
[17:45] <xyz111> ah sorry!
[17:45] <xyz111> but it's more or less the same, no?
[17:46] <nacc> xyz111: we have no way of knowing in this channel, it's a fork
[17:46] <DiecastMessiah> xyz111: no its not the same
[17:46] <nacc> xyz111: and is not officially supported by ubuntu (unlike the flavors)
[17:47] <xyz111> ok fair enough - apologies for being off topic - I do still appreciate your help, so thank you :)
[17:47] <bossbaby> I am using TeamViewer 13 on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS,  but now the TeamViewer is not connecting and giving an error "Not ready. Please check your connection"
[17:52] <mate|Jhon> Exceptionhandler:: generatedump clones child 2740Exceptionhandler:: waitForContinuesSignal
[17:54] <mate|Jhon> Failed to open curl lib from binary, use libcurl.so instead
[17:54] <nacc> mate|Jhon: is there anything peculiar about your setup? remote execution, etc?
[17:55] <nacc> mate|Jhon: is it a particularly old cpu?
[17:56] <mate|Jhon> Yes, cpu is pi3
[17:56] <mate|Jhon> Pi3 raspberry
[17:57] <nacc> mate|Jhon: so are you using xrdp or something?
[18:00] <mate|Jhon> use the predefined system which comes in ubuntu mate
[18:09] <fuseteam> @simonNL which part?
[18:10] <fuseteam> .........sorry about that
[18:11] <SimonNL> fuseteam: closed the firefox window. had to do with setting up the printer server on the router I think
[18:17] <fuseteam> i have done that part yes
[18:17] <fuseteam> it actually works on my bro's windows 8 strange enough
[18:17] <fuseteam> so i'm thinking it might be the PPD
[18:18] <fuseteam> that said the printer works fine via regular usb
[18:19] <fuseteam> i have seen this in the "ink level" tab in printer settings
[18:19] <fuseteam> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/274075009637679106/428593032124825600/unknown.png
[18:20] <fuseteam> tho tis the first time i've seen that last one
[18:23] <DiecastMessiah> quit
[18:38] <fission6> something is eating up disk space all the sudden on my webserver and i can't find what
[18:38] <fission6> any ideas?
[18:39] <EriC^^> fission6: try du -sh /var
[18:41] <BillD73> fission6: best used with sudo...\
[18:41] <fission6> sorry what should i try EriC^^ BillD73
[18:41] <fission6> i see
[18:41] <fission6> 477 Megs thats nothing
[18:42] <BillD73> fission6: yeah mines around 750s
[18:43] <fission6> WOW ok i did sudo service nginx restart and BAM disk dropped like 40% in space available as in freed up, any ideas?
[18:46] <EriC^^> fission6: might have had some open file
[18:46] <EriC^^> even if a file is deleted, if it's still open the space isn't available
[18:48] <fission6> ok
[19:05] <pythonick> hello
[19:05] <pythonick> should i install nvidia driver or just use the xorg's drivers?
[19:05] <skweek> install nvidia driver
[19:06]  * skweek votes in favor of pythonick installing nvidia driver
[19:08] <Xristos43> die ti gynaika toy na fertarei?
[19:08] <pythonick> skweek, shoul di download them on their website ? i mean...do they have ubuntu repo?
[19:09] <pythonick> skweek, from here http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx ?
[19:09] <ioria> nope
[19:09] <skweek> if you check out the version in the repo via googling ubuntu nvidia driver version and look at the ubuntu repo to see what version they are to compare with http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx is the best procedure to answer your question
[19:09] <ioria> pythonick, what ubuntu are you using ? 16.04 ?
[19:11] <skweek> or pythonick would think, I only need to install these drivers once, then they are installed in my system, so I could get the latest version from nvidia's website and install them and know their as up to date as they can be, and *working* if they don't work then thats a hassle and roll back procedure to an older version
[19:11] <pythonick> ioria, yes
[19:11] <pythonick> 16.04
[19:12] <pythonick> i read that installing nvidia drivers will block the login when reboot
[19:12] <pythonick> i see 390.48 is the last for linux 64 bit
[19:12] <ioria> pythonick, press the Window key and type   drivers , then select Additional Drivers
[19:12] <pythonick> yeah i see 384.111
[19:13] <skweek> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa && sudo apt update
[19:13] <pythonick> ioria, ^ .. but as i told you i remember that when i install them the login after reboot will block
[19:14] <ioria> pythonick, yes.... there are some bug with nvidia drivers and 4.13 kernel
[19:14] <ioria> *s
[19:14] <pythonick> 390.25 after the "ppa"
[19:14] <pythonick> ioria, so what can i do ?
[19:14] <skweek> nvidia says they have version 390.48
[19:15] <ioria> pythonick, what's your kernel ?   uname -r
[19:15] <pythonick> 4.13.0-37-generic
[19:15] <kostkon> pythonick, latest kernel confirmed
[19:16] <ioria> pythonick, have you already tried to install 387 ?
[19:16] <ioria> pythonick, sorry, 384
[19:17] <pythonick> no i do not i am worried about the freeze after reboot :D
[19:17] <skweek> if your graphics card is on the supported products list then why not use these drivers? http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/132530/en-us
[19:17] <pythonick> i have geforce 1070
[19:18] <skweek> the GeForce GTX 1070 is on that list
[19:18] <pythonick> skweek, yeah i asked if i can install the drivers from their website..
[19:18] <kostkon> pythonick, fairly recent so it will be supported
[19:18] <ioria> pythonick, please , paste ubuntu-drivers list
[19:18] <pythonick> ok but...what about the bug with the  4.13 kernel
[19:18] <pythonick> ?
[19:19] <ioria> pythonick, run      ubuntu-drivers list     ans paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com
[19:20] <kevr> hi
[19:20] <kevr> is there a static gtest available in repositories somehow?
[19:23] <pythonick> ioria, https://ibb.co/jHuuun
[19:23] <ioria> pythonick, that's not what i asked, but ok
[19:24] <ioria> pythonick, you have 384, 387, 390 , select 390 and reboot
[19:25] <pythonick> ioria, if it freeze? :D
[19:25] <pythonick> what can i do ?
[19:26] <ioria> pythonick, you open a console and purge nvidia
[19:26] <pythonick> ioria, how?
[19:26] <ioria> pythonick,  ctrl+alt+f1 (or f2) and  sudo apt purge nvidia*
[19:26] <pythonick> i mean how can i restore the xorg driover?
[19:26] <pythonick> ok
[19:26] <ioria> pythonick,  in the that way
[19:27] <skweek> ioria, pythonick there's a few nvidia forum posts that support ioria's direction
[19:27] <ioria> pythonick,  your call mate
[19:29] <pythonick> ok i go :D
[19:29] <pythonick> thank you !!
[19:29] <ioria> no prob
[19:30] <ioria> oh
[19:31] <ioria> he already installed that ppa...
[19:31] <ioria> !info nvidia-390 xenial
[19:32] <grobi> o/
[19:32] <skweek> can you check ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ?
[19:33] <ioria> skweek, i know it's in ppa ...
[19:35] <ioria> skweek, i didn't know he had already installed it
[19:36] <skweek> he didn't have it selected in the software settings screenshot he sent
[19:36] <ioria> skweek, that's not the point, mate
[19:39] <pythonick> ioria, works perfectly!!
[19:39] <pythonick> :)
[19:39] <pythonick> 390 drivers are running
[19:39] <ioria> pythonick,  ok
[19:39] <pythonick> 390.25
[19:40] <ioria> pythonick,  very good
[19:40] <deker> #drupal-support
[19:40] <pythonick> ioria, i think there is a nvidia manager right? with settings... GPU stats, usage etc ?
[19:41] <ioria> pythonick,  nvidia-settings, yes
[19:41] <haarolean> sup, got a problem with wlan on ubuntu gnome 17.10. Updating to 17.10 caused some problems, including this one. Wlan is connected to a network, but I can't ping anything, even the gateway. Wired works fine, restarting networking / reconnecting few times to the network / restarting nm helps sometimes. Any ideas? Tried various stuff from google
[19:41] <ioria> pythonick,  type nvidia in Dash ( windows key)
[19:42] <pythonick> oh cool! awesome
[19:42] <ioria> pythonick,  this is not Windows, bear in mind
[19:43] <pythonick> ioria, i think better no? :D
[19:43] <ioria> pythonick,  yep :þ
[19:43] <pythonick> ahah
[19:53] <insanity99> Hey guys, I am getting screen tearing on Ubuntu 16.04
[19:54] <insanity99> I have a radeon card
[19:54] <nutzz_>  Shouldn't docker node update --label-add registry=true my-hostname.localdomain generate a registry.yml file?
[19:55] <nacc> nutzz_: probably a question for docker?
[19:56] <nutzz_> nacc: is there a docker channel?
[19:56] <nacc> !alis | nutzz_
[20:03] <bugbunny> insanity99: https://cubethethird.wordpress.com/2016/06/14/eliminate-screen-tearing-with-amd-gpu-on-ubuntu/
[20:04] <insanity99> Thanks bugbunny I was just about to ask this. What is the right command to add that file? is it sudo gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-radeon.conf
[20:07] <rivyn> ugh, having major problems with dpkg for some reason
[20:08] <rivyn> Can anybody help me figure out why I can't install a package here?:  https://ghostbin.com/paste/drgm9
[20:15] <bhearsum> hi there, ever since upgrading to 17.10 i've noticed that whenever my DNS servers change (for example, when i connect to a VPN or start a Docker container), DNS resolution is slow for ~30s. can anyone point me in the right direction of why this may be, or how to debug it?
[20:16] <insanity99> hey bugbunny, that didn't completely resolve the issue sadly
[20:20] <bugbunny> insanity99: What Ubuntu version and DE are you using?
[20:21] <insanity99> bugbunny, 16.04LTS and GNOME
[20:21] <singsing123> hello
[20:21] <singsing123> can someone please help me
[20:22] <singsing123> hello?
[20:22] <kostkon> !details | singsing123
[20:22] <singsing123> I tried to install Win 10 and Ubuntu 16 LTS but now Win 10 wont start up
[20:23] <singsing123>  I tried to dual boot Ubuntu 16 LTS alongside Win 10 Pro but now Windows 10 won't work. When I try to load Win 10, it just goes to the blue repair screen. When I try to repair, it fails. When I try to restore an earlier version, it fails. So I tried to access my mum's important files via Ubuntu, but I get this message:   Error mounting /dev/sda2 at /media/ubuntu4dmin/DABE2832BE280999: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udi
[20:23] <singsing123>  "/dev/sda2" "/media/ubuntu4dmin/DABE2832BE280999"' exited with non-zero exit status 18: Failed to open ntfs attribute: No such file or directory Failed to load $MFT: No such file or directory Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': No such file or directory  How can I fix this? My mums files are the most important, not Windows 10. However, If I am able to get Win 10 and the files, that's better.
[20:24] <bhearsum> singsing123: if you haven't already, you may need to disable Secure Boot in the bios
[20:24] <singsing123> ok let me check if its disabledd
[20:26] <singsing123> It says "Secure Boot state" Disabled
[20:26] <insanity99> Should I try this? http://www.apolitech.com/2017/04/20how-to-solve-video-tearing-on-amd.html
[20:26] <singsing123> @bhearsum
[20:27] <insanity99> If so, should I first remove the script I made from the last link?
[20:31] <singsing123> hello
[20:31] <singsing123> i thought this was a support channel
[20:31] <xinobi> I need to install Apache/2.4.18 under ubuntu 16.04
[20:32] <bhearsum> singsing123: sorry, i'm not sure what else to try - i don't dual boot myself
[20:32] <bugbunny> singsing123: Do you have WIndows 10 installer CD hanging around?
[20:32] <bugbunny> singsing123: Use that to repair Windows startup
[20:33] <singsing123> ok ill try @bugs
[20:33] <singsing123> @bhearsum thanks for trying to help!
[20:33] <bhearsum> singsing123: np, good luck!
[20:33] <bugbunny> !uefi
[20:35] <insanity99> That fix didn't work either
[20:35] <bugbunny> insanity99: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/enable-dri3-by-default-in-18-04/1253/3
[20:35] <bugbunny> insanity99: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/54uao7/how_to_fix_screen_tearing_in_ubuntu_1604_gnome/
[20:38] <bugbunny> From what I read, it's unlikely you'll be able to eliminate screen tearing completely. Alternatively, I you can try other Window Managers like Compiz or Compton
[20:38] <insanity99> Okay thanks
[20:40] <bugbunny> insanity99: You can try disabling Animations, before moving on, if you AMD GPU is a weak card
[20:47] <insanity99> description: VGA compatible controller
[20:47] <insanity99>                 product: Thames [Radeon HD 7550M/7570M/7650M]
[20:47] <insanity99>                 vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
[20:47] <insanity99>                 physical id: 0
[20:47] <insanity99>                 bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[20:47] <insanity99>                 version: 00
[20:47] <kostkon> insanity99, use paste.ubuntu.com
[20:48] <insanity99> Didn't know it would enter as separate messages
[20:48] <MarkB2> I'm messing around with OpenSSL (and this the first I've ever messed with it).  Might someone point me in the direction of an SSL server, just a data "consumer"?  Think I've got a producer (client).. but no consumer.
[20:49] <insanity99> is that a weak card bugbunny?
[20:49] <TJ-> MarkB2: 'openssl s_server' and 'openssl s_client' (see "man s_server" and "man s_client" )
[20:50] <RMills> hello, anyone could help how i can add an script into autorun, i was noticed that the rc.local doesn't exist anyone
[20:50] <bugbunny> insanity99: Looks like a Mobile GPU to me
[20:51] <bugbunny> insanity99: As far as Mobile GPUs goes, they are weaker than their discrete conter part. Nevertheless, you can try the suggestions I've gave you already
[20:51] <insanity99> Yeaah, Sony Vaio.  I installed three different times before someone gave me your script. So thanks
[20:54] <bugbunny> From last light
[20:54] <bugbunny> Yeah, I read
[20:54] <bugbunny> s/light/night/
[20:55] <insanity99> Thanks bugbunny I'll try one of those. Learn what they are
[20:59] <TJ-> Screen tearing is usually caused because the system isn't using triple-buffering, or isn't observing vertical sync when swapping in the application's window buffer
[21:00] <bugbunny> From what I read, mutter, the default Window Manager for Gnome is pretty simplistic
[21:01] <bugbunny> With just 5 settings you can in dconf
[21:01] <bugbunny> s/in/change in/
[21:02] <insanity99> So is it as simple as sudo apt-get install compton?
[21:03] <bugbunny> Spent quite a bit time the other day reading on Mesa, the different buffers, window managers spurred because of my curiousity of Xorg architecture. Complicated, old, and fasscinating
[21:03] <insanity99> Oh soemone linked me a book the bot on this channel has for learning command line and stuff for Linux but I lost it. A anyone know it?
[21:03] <TJ-> bugbunny: and still way ahead of Wayland protocol for flexiblity and common user cases :)
[21:05] <insanity99> TJ-, Yeah screen tearing should be on now. I have two different files saying to enable 'TearFree'
[21:05] <bugbunny> Well, a lot of folks want to get ride of Xorg, because of it's security flaws
[21:06] <insanity99> vsync I mean
[21:06] <singsing123> @bugs it didnt work
[21:06] <bugbunny> You need to enable it, it doesn't get enabled automatically
[21:06] <singsing123> i just want to get the files, forget win 10
[21:06] <bugbunny> I don't know how you do that with Gnome 3, to apply temporarly now, compton --replace
[21:07] <bugbunny> singsing123: You can boot Ubuntu liveCD, mount the disk that has the data, and make backups?
[21:08] <bugbunny> Assuming you didn't acidentally erase you Windows 10 data partition
[21:09] <singsing123> I didnt erase
[21:09] <singsing123> I just selected install alongside windows
[21:09] <singsing123> What is LiveCD?
[21:09] <singsing123> I don't have the CD
[21:09] <singsing123> just the USB version of 16 LTS
[21:09] <insanity99> --replace is not recognized bugbunny
[21:10] <ScaredMoose777> Hi
[21:10] <ScaredMoose777> What are you talking about
[21:10] <ScaredMoose777> Lemonz
[21:10] <bugbunny> singsing123: Yeah, LiveUSB (LiveCD), same thing
[21:10] <singsing123> @bugs, is there a tutorial for that process?
[21:11] <ScaredMoose777> Yeah
[21:11] <bugbunny> singsing123: To mount the NTFS partition?
[21:11] <ScaredMoose777> Yeah
[21:11] <ScaredMoose777> There obviously is
[21:11] <singsing123> yes
[21:11] <ScaredMoose777> By cajhne
[21:14] <bugbunny> singsing123: My GoogleFU is not working here, the suggestion is for adding stuff to fstab, if you know what disk ie, /dev/sdaX, X being the partition number. Than mount /dev/sdaX /mnt/c, should give you read access
[21:16] <bugbunny> singsing123: https://www.itworld.com/article/2984869/linux/how-to-mount-ntfs-partitions-using-linux-commands.html
[21:17] <singsing123> @bugs, thank you! <3
[21:18] <singsing123> in a noob at linux so sorry for asking so many questions
[21:19] <Butterfly_> singsing123 : we all started as noobs at one point or another :)
[21:19] <insanity99> Apparently gnome does not allow you to switch composite managers bugbunny
[21:19] <bugbunny> :(
[21:19] <insanity99> Can I install cinnamon without causing issues?
[21:20] <insanity99> Likke conflicts and stuff bugbunny
[21:20] <OreoCollas> Querry. If I set something to run on startup (Example: A Minecraft server.) Is there a way I can ssh to the terminal that is running the server since it's running in the background?
[21:20] <bugbunny> Wiat a minute, doesn't Gnome 3 support Wayland out of the box?
[21:21] <bugbunny> Wayland, has better support for ScreenTearing, no idea Ubuntu 16.04 implemented Wayland at all
[21:22] <insanity99> I dont know what that is sorry bugbunny
[21:23] <nacc> OreoCollas: well, running on startup probably means there is no "terminal running the server"
[21:23] <nacc> OreoCollas: i feel like maybe you're misunderstanding how it all works
[21:23] <h0rnet> hello all
[21:24] <h0rnet> newbie on linux, i'd like dl .torrent
[21:24] <OreoCollas> nacc: I know that there's no terminal running but isn't there a way I can tap into the minecraft server process via terminal so I can see what is going on?
[21:25] <Ben64> if you do it so it runs in a screen session you could
[21:25] <h0rnet> & ban p2p trackers. Any advices pls ?
[21:26] <Ben64> !torrent | h0rnet
[21:26] <OreoCollas> Ben64: How whould I do that?
[21:26] <nacc> OreoCollas: what do you mean 'tap into'?
[21:26] <Ben64> OreoCollas: i'm sure theres guides online for that
[21:26] <h0rnet> qtorrent will be nice
[21:27] <h0rnet> and any peerblock software ?
[21:27] <OreoCollas> nacc: When I start the minecraft server manually via terminal I get a window that shows the server startup process, and any commands that someone types in game. When the server starts automatically I do not get this window so I would like to have a way of accessing that information via ssh.
[21:28] <nacc> OreoCollas: does it not log it somewhere?
[21:30] <OreoCollas> nacc: Currently it only loggs if there is an error. I think I might be able to set it up to keep a continuous log but I want something that I can monitor live and also give it commands (Example: /Ban HACKERPLAYER)
[21:30] <nacc> OreoCollas: that sounds like a question for minecraft
[21:31] <nacc> OreoCollas: i have no idea how it works, and it wouldn't be generic, it'd be specific to minecraft; alternatively, as Ben64 said, run it in a screen or tmux session
[21:31] <h0rnet> i'm going to french ubuntu channel...thx for answers
[21:31] <h0rnet> cu
[21:32] <OreoCollas> nacc: OK. Thx any ways for the help.
[21:34] <bugbunny> OreoCollas: Does it launch a GUI?
[21:34] <bugbunny> OreoCollas: Or just output to stdin?
[21:35] <bugbunny> orr, stdout
[21:36] <OreoCollas> bugbunny: I have it set to nogui
[21:45] <insanity99> Think upgrading to 17 will fix tearing?
[21:48] <Bashing-om> insanity99: You are already running 17.10 kernel and X stack . Booting nomodeset ? The radeon driver is loaded - lshw -C display ?
[21:49] <Bashing-om> !hwe | insanity99
[21:51] <insanity99> Oh hey Bashing-om http://termbin.com/v4aa Yeah I am currently having screen tearing not just on videos but also while scrolling on my browser and stuff
[21:52] <TJ-> insanity99: is it single monitor or multiple?
[21:53] <insanity99> single laptop TJ-
[21:53] <insanity99> And already made these two files and rebooted http://www.apolitech.com/2017/04/20how-to-solve-video-tearing-on-amd.html
[21:53] <insanity99> and
[21:53] <insanity99> https://cubethethird.wordpress.com/2016/06/14/eliminate-screen-tearing-with-amd-gpu-on-ubuntu
[21:53] <insanity99> Opps sorry about that
[21:54] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Correct driver for that card i loaded ... we can look at Zs log file and see if the system is screaming about anything ..but I bet it is happy ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' .
[21:54] <bugbunny> For firefox, you can disable smooth scrolling
[21:55] <Bashing-om> TJ-: On insanity99 lasy night I passed the cookies to you .. updated DSDT from your script .
[21:55] <tyzoid> Hey all, I tried to add an ipv6 section to my /etc/network/interfaces file, but whenever I try to restart that interface, I get 'RTNETLINK answers: File exists'
[21:55] <tyzoid> Any ideas on how to resolve?
[21:55] <tyzoid> manually adding the ipv6 address via ip works
[21:56] <Bashing-om> DSDT*
[21:56] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I heard; good to know it works
[21:57] <insanity99> Here you go Bashing-om I'm usuing GNOME if that helps http://termbin.com/9zqw
[21:57] <TJ-> insanity99: can you show us "pastebinit <( lspci -nnvvvk -s 01:00.0 )"
[21:58] <insanity99> Here you go TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vCpQrDtcvF/
[21:59] <Bashing-om> TJ-: insanity99 was on mint ,, they had passed him off as bad hardware - non fixable :)
[22:00] <TJ-> insanity99: your TearFree config file isn't bein read, you'll see in Xorg.0.log "[    22.475] (==) RADEON(0): TearFree property default: auto"
[22:00] <insanity99> Bashing-om, Sent a good few hours helping me thankfully. And I've been enjoying linux since, though it has a steep learning curve. Getting a bit better with the CLI now
[22:00] <insanity99> Oh thats strange
[22:00] <Bashing-om> insanity99: TJ- " ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2012"" do not think we want that - acpi_osi=! - boot parameter ??
[22:01] <TJ-> insanity99: yes, so maybe the first thing is to figure out why the device file you created doesn't seem to be loaded
[22:01] <michael2> Hi all, when I  have a laptop  running  ubuntu  which has completely frozen -  does anyone have any tips for trying to recover? note: <Ctrl> + <Alt> + <F1>  is not working
[22:01] <TJ-> Bashing-om: Yes, the acpi_osi=! is very important; it clears the kernels built-in list so it only presents the known-good OSI
[22:02] <nacc> michael2: there's not much you can do if it's fully hung, short of rebooting; does sysrq work?
[22:03] <michael2> nacc: yeah - thats what I thought - is sysrq a key on the keyboard? what does it do?
[22:03] <nacc> michael2: it's the alt for print screen
[22:03] <nacc> !sysrq | michael2
[22:04] <insanity99> TJ-, what am I doing wrong here? "pastebinit cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-amd.conf"
[22:05] <TJ-> insanity99: show us " pastebinit <( for f in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/* ; do echo [22:05] <michael2> nacc: thanks. If nothing works and I do need to reboot - is there anything I should worry about losing - e.g. could there be major problems caused by the inability to "clean shutdown"?
[22:05] <nacc> michael2: that's what the sysrq *tries* to help with (by  unmounting your disks, syncing them, etc.
[22:05] <TJ-> insanity99: in your command pastebinit will take the file argument directly, it treats 'cat' as some filename, not a command :)
[22:06] <bugbunny> michael2: Your partition keeps a journal, in most cases, you experience some (unsaved open files) or no data lost at all. If you fell with sysrq
[22:06] <TJ-> insanity99: From your Xorg.0.log it looks like it may only read additional config files from: (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[22:07] <bugbunny> s/fell/fail/
[22:07] <michael2> nacc: whats the worst case scenario of hard shutdown and disks weren't synced or unmounted? (assuming all disks were encrypted)
[22:07] <nacc> michael2: data loss
[22:07] <ethernetdriver> hello
[22:08] <ethernetdriver> can someone please help me get this ethernet driver working, i am going nuts
[22:08] <insanity99> Ah thanks. Here go TJ- http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YNv9SFwx2T/
[22:08] <ethernetdriver> i need to get e1000e installed on a headless box that doesn't have internet connection, and i believe i have installed the driver, but no dice
[22:08] <xinobi> my application keeps me asking for enabling intl extension after apt-get install php7.0-intl
[22:09] <xinobi> anyone knows how to solve this issue?
[22:09] <bugbunny> xinobi: You only have PHP7.0 installed? What SAPI are you using? FPM, CLI, Apache-php?
[22:10] <xinobi> fpm
[22:10] <xinobi> I guess
[22:10] <bugbunny> xinobi: <?php phpinfo(); ?>, do you see it loaded?
[22:10] <nacc> xinobi: fyi, you should use php-intl (to avoid upgrade issues)
[22:12] <TJ-> insanity99: trying to verify here if /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ files are supposed to be read; give me a moment
[22:12] <xinobi> no it not loaded
[22:12] <nacc> xinobi: you can run `phpenmod intl`, iirc
[22:12] <nacc> i can't remember what the paramter is supposed to be right now
[22:12] <tgm4883> ethernetdriver: isn't the e1000e one of the most basic drivers that's installed by default?
[22:13] <nacc> tgm4883: i think so (it's a newer driver, but definitely present)
[22:13] <xinobi> WARNING: Module intl ini file doesn't exist under /etc/php/7.2/mods-available
[22:13] <nacc> xinobi: ah you install php7.0-intl? don't do that, as i said
[22:13] <nacc> xinobi: and you are on 18.04?
[22:13] <nacc> xinobi: php7.0 is not present in 18.04, use php- for packages
[22:13] <xinobi> nacc: no at 14:04
[22:13] <ethernetdriver> tgm4883: probably, when i installed it couldn't find the network adapter, and i have tried to install it and still no dice
[22:13] <bugbunny> xinobi: You can check /etc/php directory to see if the configuration file is sysmlinked. Not on Ubuntu right now, IIRC, /etc/php/fpm
[22:14] <nacc> xinobi: uh, if you're on 14.04 and runnig 7.2 you are using a PPA and you should contact the PPA owner
[22:14] <xinobi> directory doesn't exist
[22:14] <nacc> xinobi: but the fix is what i said, anyways
[22:14] <bugbunny> xinobi: From phpinfo, where is it reading it's configuration form?
[22:14] <nacc> bugbunny: you can drop it, they are using a PPA, they are mixing php versions and packages, etc.
[22:16] <bugbunny> nacc: Why would I do that?
[22:16] <insanity99> ok TJ-
[22:16] <nacc> bugbunny: because it's offtopic for the channel
[22:17] <nacc> bugbunny: feel free to take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, if you want
[22:18] <bugbunny> nacc: If you read the Guidelines?
[22:18] <nacc> bugbunny: what?
[22:18] <bugbunny> s/if/have/
[22:19] <bugbunny> nacc: I am asking if you read the Guidelines??
[22:19] <TJ-> insanity99: Right, I'm using nouveau but I've added a similar option file and going to restart the X server and see if it gets read. I've got an inotifywait /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ watching for any access to that directory
[22:19] <nacc> bugbunny: what does that have to do with anything?
[22:19] <bugbunny> nacc: You suggested to me the other day to over the guidelines, which I did?
[22:19] <michael2> does anyone know what the difference between canonical partners and multiverse is - they are both non-free software right?
[22:19] <bugbunny> did you not?
[22:19] <bugbunny> Have you read them?
[22:19] <nacc> bugbunny: i have read them before
[22:20] <nacc> michael2: usually, yeah
[22:20] <nacc> michael2: multivers is debian's non-free
[22:20] <bugbunny> I'll gove over them again, to see what's not allowed
[22:20] <nacc> bugbunny: PPAs are not supported, this is the support channel, you can't run php7.* on 14.40 without a ppa.
[22:21] <nacc> *14.04, sorry
[22:21] <bugbunny> If he was talking Mint and PPA, I wouldv't agreed, but I don't agree with you. Unless stated otherwise
[22:21] <TJ-> insanity99: back. Good news is the file was read /and/ I see the change applied in Xorg.0.log
[22:21] <nacc> bugbunny: no, PPAs are not officially supported in this channel
[22:21] <nacc> !ppa > bugbunny
[22:22] <nacc> michael2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu has some info
[22:22] <nacc> bugbunny: they are explicitly running non-Ubuntu software in Ubuntu, this is the official Ubuntu support channel
[22:23] <bugbunny> nacc: I know what there are, nothing message off-topic, just not supported by Ubuntu.. A support channel, open source fashion, helps all ubuntu without any predejudice
[22:23] <bugbunny> We agree to disagree
[22:23] <nacc> bugbunny: read your own sentence again, please.
[22:24] <insanity99> TJ-, Ah right ok. Is it possible that because I made two files with the screen tear option there is some kind of issue?
[22:24] <nacc> bugbunny: if you want to discuss this further, please use #ubuntu-discuss
[22:24] <bugbunny> Probably better on Mailing list
[22:26] <TJ-> insanity99: so this is what I see with a custom Device section at the beginning of the Xorg.0.log, notice the "Using the first device section listed" and "~---> Device "devname"
[22:27] <TJ-> insanity99: see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tRCpmJB9B6/
[22:29] <insanity99> TJ-, Ah right yeah
[22:30] <arussel> how can I change the background color of a window in screen ?
[22:30] <TJ-> insanity99: and notice also above there it states: Using config directory: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[22:31] <insanity99> TJ-, Yeah so yours is getting read
[22:31] <TJ-> insanity99: right, and it looks like we have the same xorg-server version
[22:31] <TJ-> insanity99: so I think if we can solve this you might get TearFree enabled!
[22:32] <insanity99> TJ-, That will be great :)
[22:32] <TJ-> insanity99: show us "pastebinit <( sudo find /etc/X11 -ls ) "
[22:33] <michael2> nacc: regarding the "sysrq" technique - it sound a bit complicated - and I don't want to start learning how it works once my computer is frozen -  Is it possible to test the key sequence on a "working system" ?
[22:34] <TJ-> michael2: the sysreq R E I S U B is a direct interface to the Linux kernel to ensure a safe reboot when userspace has become unresponsive
[22:34] <insanity99> TJ-, It says I am trying to send an empty document and exits
[22:35] <TJ-> insanity99: hmm, it works here, did you get a sudo password prompt ?
[22:35] <nacc> michael2: not sure what you mean by complicated?
[22:35] <nacc> michael2: you hold some keys and press some others
[22:36] <michael2> TJ-:  is sysrq and ascii key ? e.g. can I test it by printing it into a file (e.g. using <Ctrl>V in a terminal
[22:36] <TJ-> michael2: no it's the mechanism the kernel uses to know you're sending it commands
[22:36] <michael2> i mean is `sysrq' an ascii character?
[22:36] <insanity99> TJ-, Yeah but it is instantly stopped by the empty document message
[22:37] <TJ-> insanity99: try this locally: "find /etc/X11 -ls" ... do you get a big list of the files and dirs?
[22:37] <michael2> but `sysrq' must come from the keyboard?
[22:37] <nacc> michael2: .... no, it's the alt code with the printscreen key
[22:37] <nacc> michael2: but you can also use /proc/sysrq-trigger
[22:38] <insanity99> TJ-, Yep. Here you go http://termbin.com/e561
[22:39] <michael2> nacc: when I press <Alt> + <prt sc/sysrq> on my ubuntu16.04 desktop - it takes a screenshot
[22:39] <nacc> michael2: right, hit the other keys too to test it
[22:39] <nacc> you can try 's' it's harmelss
[22:40] <michael2> oh so "sysrq" only happens if you press <Alt> + <prt sc/sysrq>  + <some other char>?
[22:41] <TJ-> insanity99: well, that all looks correct; I'm at a loss! Tell me, are you using the problem PC to get onto IRC right now?
[22:42] <Bashing-om> michael2: See also : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Uses .
[22:42] <insanity99> TJ-, Yeah on hexchat. Should I reboot again you think?
[22:42] <TJ-> insanity99: a logout/login is sufficient to restart the X server
[22:42] <michael2> nacc: I tried   <Alt> + <prt sc/sysrq>  + <s>     and it still just takes a screenshot
[22:42] <nacc> michael2: look in your dmesg
[22:42] <TJ-> insanity99: so yes, do a log-out and let's recheck after you log-in
[22:43] <TJ-> michael2: on some laptops it requires holding down the special Fn (function) key to get the sysrq
[22:43] <insanity99> TJ-, I'm also logged into MobileInsanity99 if I need to do anything with the pc
[22:43] <TJ-> insanity99: OK, lets give it a go
[22:43] <insanity99> Ok logging out now
[22:46] <insanity99> Ok back TJ- which log is it again?
[22:46] <michael2> nacc: TJ- Im following dmesg, and tried with <Fn> and with <s> - dmesg showing nothing so far...
[22:46] <TJ-> insanity99: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[22:47] <nacc> michael2: dunno, it works fine here
[22:47] <TJ-> michael2: is the keyboard set so the PrtScrn/SysRq key is part of a pseudo num-pad and NumLock is currently on?
[22:48] <michael2> nacc:  so when you follow dmesg and hit the key combo - dmesh shows something like [sysrq detected] ?
[22:48] <insanity99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9WXBZtXRMm/ TJ- hmm
[22:48] <insanity99> Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[22:49] <nacc> michael2: not sure what you mean by 'follow', but if i do it, then run dmesg, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vp3fQyG6c6/
[22:49] <michael2> TJ-:  no - sysrq key - is not part of a num pad combo - its a dedicated key
[22:50] <michael2> nacc: I think `dmesg -w' is the equivalent of `tail -f ...' for dmesg. thats what I mean by follow
[22:51] <TJ-> insanity99: that can't be the correct log file, look at the timestamp: "Wed Mar 28 06:55:51 2018"
[22:51] <TJ-> insanity99: what is your PC's local time right now?
[22:52] <insanity99> Oh yeah what the hell? It is 23:52
[22:52] <TJ-> insanity99: check which log files were touched last, looking in particular for any named Xorg*: "ls -latr /var/log/"
[22:53] <Bashing-om> TJ-: insanity99 " Time in Budapest, Hungary >> Thursday, March 29, 2018 (GMT+2) >> 12:52 AM " .
[22:54] <TJ-> Bashing-om: as far as I can see insanity99 is in Liverpool, England!
[22:54] <insanity99> TJ-, Right you are!
[22:55] <Bashing-om> TJ-: oh, well .. I used /whois to query the server .
[22:55] <insanity99> What sorcery is this TJ-?
[22:55] <TJ-> insanity99: weird talent... being able to decode Virgin Media hostnames into locations :D
[22:57] <TJ-> insanity99: found any more recent Xorg* log files ?
[22:57] <insanity99> xorg log at 07:53, not very recent
[22:58] <TJ-> insanity99: I cannot imagine why the xserver is apparently not logging, if the /var/log/ file-system were out of space I'm sure it'd complain and no start
[22:58] <insanity99> http://termbin.com/nr6b
[22:59] <insanity99> TJ-, Looks like plenty of logs getting touched, not xorg though?
[23:00] <TJ-> insanity99: are you letting the xserver be started by the init system - not using startx or similar manually are you?
[23:01] <insanity99> Not sure what that means sorry TJ-
[23:01] <insanity99> I'm a fresh windows refugee :)
[23:02] <TJ-> insanity99: probably means you've not changed the way the system starts the X server then :)
[23:02] <insanity99> Bashing-om, We didn't do anything like that last night did we?
[23:02] <TJ-> insanity99: just in case let's check the system isn't running low of disk space: "pastebinit <( df -h; df -i );
[23:03] <insanity99> TJ-, I have changed from Unity to GNOME. I did sudo apt-get install gnome, then logged out and chose gnome in settings
[23:03] <Bashing-om> insanity99: No, we have not touched the init system .
[23:03] <insanity99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WpDm473Z2C/ TJ-
[23:03] <TJ-> insanity99: the only thing I can imagine is you've running a Gnome/Wayland session and hence no X server!
[23:04] <TJ-> insanity99: what does "echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE" report ?
[23:05] <insanity99> x11 TJ-
[23:05] <TJ-> insanity99: which is the X server; now I'm really stumped! Show us "pastebinit <( ps -efly )"
[23:06] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Last I was aware .. insanity99 is running 16.04 with HWE .
[23:06] <insanity99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DHCzc3p5TB/ TJ-
[23:08] <insanity99> Oh Bashing-om I lost that book you linked me with the shell tutorials
[23:10] <TJ-> insanity99: you've got two Xorg processes running, one on vt7 (which we expect) and another on vt2
[23:10] <Bashing-om> !rute | insanity99
[23:10] <insanity99> Does the terminal have an interactive tutorial kind of like vim tutor if you are familiar with vim
[23:11] <TJ-> insanity99: looks like the vt9 instance is the Gnome Display Manager, whereas vt2 is the Gnome user session (you)
[23:11] <insanity99> Thanks i'll save that now Bashing-om
[23:12] <insanity99> TJ-, Ah right
[23:12] <TJ-> nacc: do you happen to know if gdm forces Xorg to log to some other destination, possibly journalctl, for 16.04+HWE ?
[23:15] <insanity99> TJ-, "Are you using GDM? That redirects Xorg logging to the journal. I've found journalctl -b -o json-pretty instrumental in finding out the field I need to filter on. In my case, journalctl -b /usr/bin/Xorg.bin (.bin added) is what shows me the Xorg logging (for this session, -b -1 for the previous)."
[23:15] <insanity99> Does that help? from https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/2fshq4/how_to_get_the_xorg_log_file/
[23:15] <TJ-> insanity99: yes, try wrapping that in "pastebinit <( ... ) "
[23:16] <TJ-> insanity99: so probably "pastebinit <( journalctl -b /usr/bin/Xorg.bin )"
[23:17] <TJ-> Bashing-om: are you running gdm/gnome and can check this?
[23:17] <insanity99> TJ-, pastebinit <( journalctl -b /usr/bin/Xorg.bin
[23:18] <insanity99> Sorry
[23:18] <insanity99> TJ-,  Couldn't stat file: No such file or directory
[23:18] <TJ-> insanity99: i suspect you may need a different argument to journalctl but as I don't run Gnome here I cannot check
[23:18] <Bashing-om> rjhatl: No .. I run 16.04+xfce and 18.04+wayland :(
[23:19] <insanity99> Should I try something differen tthan GNOME? Not too attached to it. I did like cinnamon mind you TJ-
[23:19] <TJ-> insanity99: does "systemctl status gdm3.service" report a running service?
[23:19] <insanity99> What are you using?
[23:19] <Bashing-om> TJ-: ^^ apologies to rjhatl
[23:19] <TJ-> insanity99: lightdm + XFCE (xubuntu)
[23:21] <TJ-> insanity99: so what I'm thinking right now is you had lightdm, installed gnome, and it replaced lightdm with gdm3 which also changed the way the X server logs and captures it to systemd's journald instead of writing to the expected Xorg log file
[23:21] <insanity99> TJ-, http://termbin.com/dii6
[23:23] <insanity99> Ah right ok. Should I boot into a different one?
[23:24] <Jeruvy> !offtopic
[23:25] <TJ-> insanity99: you'd have to disable gdm3 as the default display manager and return to lightdm - I suspect gdm3 is also why /etc/X11/xonrg.conf.d/ is not being read
[23:25] <insanity99> TJ-, The pesky devil
[23:26] <TJ-> insanity99: These are 2 more reasons to add to my list of dislikes of Gnome - changing standard defaults with obscure hidden changes that make what should be a simple config change a mission in frustration
[23:26] <nacc> TJ-: iirc, xorg logs to a ~/ directory now
[23:27] <TJ-> nacc: looking at insanity99 system process list, the 2 instances of Xorg aren't being put into the background, and are logging to stdout, but no indication of where that is going
[23:28] <insanity99> Ah I see, and cinnamon is built on gnome too isn't it? I'll use an alternative if we can figure this out
[23:28] <Budgii> How does one find out if he has 'ports' open on his internet/IP?
[23:28] <mutante> Budgii: you can use "nmap
[23:28] <mutante> to port-scan yourself
[23:28] <Budgii> thanks!
[23:29] <mutante> find out your external IP by typing "what's my IP" in Google.  install the "nmap" package, then  try  "nmap <yourIP>". but it should be from something external
[23:29] <TJ-> Budgii: you would have to scan from a system outside your network though
[23:30] <Budgii> TJ-, thanks for letting me know. :p
[23:30] <TJ-> insanity99: I'm not sure what we do right now; we need the Xorg logs to check if /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ file is being read and acted on
[23:31] <mutante> Budgii: or something like  http://www.whatsmyip.org/port-scanner/
[23:31] <insanity99> Ok TJ- Thanks for the help :)
[23:31] <trumee> How can i get 0.7 release in Ubuntu? Distribution only gives 0.6 release
[23:31] <trumee> 0.7 zfs
[23:31] <Budgii> TJ-, mutante, Does it notify that IP or website that my IP scanned it?
[23:32] <TJ-> Budgii: generally, if you're behind a router that is doing port network address translation (PNAT) then ports won't be open unless you've a) configured manual port-forward rules or b) have enabled uPnP in the router so systems inside the LAN can ask it to open ports and forward to them
[23:32] <nacc> trumee: 18.04 will have 0.7.5
[23:32] <trumee> nacc, can i get that on xenial?
[23:32] <nacc> trumee: so you can install that, or wait to upgrade (if you're on 16.04, around july) etc.
[23:32] <nacc> trumee: not officially, no
[23:32] <mutante> Budgii: it depends if the admin set something up specifically to detect it, it's possible but not by default
[23:33] <trumee> nacc, how can i install unofficially?
[23:33] <nacc> trumee: dunno ask the zfs folks
[23:33] <mutante> there will still be the ports open on the router itself.. like for a web interface, telnet.. what not
[23:34] <mutante> if it has remote administration enabled that is
[23:34] <TJ-> insanity99: if nacc is correct that the gdm/Xorg logs may be in the user's home directory, listing the files/dirs there by most recently accessed may help you identify where such logs might be. Try "ls -latr $HOME"
[23:34] <Budgii> TJ-, mutante, thank you both! I'm just getting curious on 'what can someone do with an IP address' and ran onto a link that gave a good explanation of what a 'hacker' really does. https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/19018/what-can-a-hacker-do-with-an-ip-address
[23:34] <trumee> nacc, i have a ZFS pool which i am sharing between Ubuntu and Gentoo. Feature flags set in Gentoo are not supported in Ubuntu, hence i need a newer version
[23:34] <mutante> Budgii: with an IP address somebdoy can see the provider and the approximate location
[23:34] <trumee> nacc, if i install 18.04, can i upgrade it when it is released?
[23:35] <mutante> Budgii: but that's where it usually ends, unless the provider cooperates with them and hands out customer data
[23:35] <Kon-> Anybody who works on the graphics-drivers PPA here? Nvidia users really need 384 as a fallback option in 18.04. I've spoken with several people who have had to install it from the download at Nvidia's site.
[23:35] <mutante> somebody can tell what city you are in but not your street address normally
[23:35] <Budgii> mutante, I knew that much but wanted to find out the "what else". :)
[23:35] <Kon-> It doesn't make sense to remove 384 from the 18.04 repo because 390 has so many known issues
[23:36] <nacc> trumee: well, 'upgrade it'? keep it updated and it will be 18.04
[23:36] <trumee> nacc, ok
[23:36] <insanity99> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QQnrrpkyJW/ TJ-
[23:37] <trumee> nacc, i cant see server image at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[23:37] <tyzoid> Any ideas about the ipv6 issue?
[23:38] <TJ-> insanity99: doesn't look like anything there
[23:38] <trumee> nacc, found it How can i get 0.7 release in Ubuntu? Distribution only gives 0.6 release
[23:38] <trumee> nacc, oops
[23:39] <trumee> nacc, found it http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/HEADER.html
[23:39] <Bashing-om> insanity99: A thought - re-install xubuntu as you do have older hardware ??
[23:40] <insanity99> Bashing-om, Yeah sure
[23:41] <Bashing-om> insanity99: No frils ,, and is fast and configurable .. only a suggestion but coming from Windows you may find that DE the more comfortable .
[23:44] <insanity99> Bashing-om, Does it have a good selection of keyboard shortcuts?
[23:44] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Yes, as stated very configurable .
[23:45] <insanity99> Okay, I'll download the iso now
[23:45] <Bashing-om> insanity99: Ask TJ- why he too prefers xfce :P
[23:46] <tyzoid> Trying to add a static ipv6 address in /etc/network/interfaces, but whenever I try to restart the interface, it gives me 'RTNETLINK answers: File exists'
[23:46] <insanity99> And do a clean install yeah? I'll need to use TJ- handy fix again which you found won't I
[23:47] <tyzoid> manually adding the ip via ip -6 addr add works, but I want to perminantly configure it
[23:47] <TJ-> insanity99: you could just do "sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop; sudo apt purge ubuntu-gnome-desktop"
[23:47] <Bashing-om> insanity99: If you do decide that you too like xfce4 .. remember, will have to run TJ-'s acpi script once more :)
[23:48] <TJ-> insanity99: no need to reinstall from an ISO - with Linux distros each component can be removed/replaced via the package manager
[23:48] <insanity99> TJ-, Oh ok great. I'll try that now
[23:49] <Bashing-om> TJ-: The reasin I do not like removing an installed DE is no telling what all will be also removed that the other DE might depends on :(
[23:49] <TJ-> insanity99: you might also need to specifically do "sudo apt purge gdm3; sudo apt install --reinstall lightdm"
[23:49] <TJ-> Bashing-om: package dependencies should take care of that but...
[23:50] <insanity99> Ok, which way should I do it then Bashing-om TJ-  :)
[23:50] <TJ-> insanity99: do the order differently "sudo apt purge ubuntu-gnome-desktop; sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop"
[23:50] <Bashing-om> insanity99: I am always interested in seeing what happens :)
[23:50] <TJ-> insanity99: and then do "sudo apt purge gdm3; sudo apt install --reinstall lightdm"
[23:51] <TJ-> insanity99: then a logout-login should use the lightdm greeter (not gdm3) and on the cog/gear icon you can select the 'Xubuntu' session (in case it is not the default)
[23:51] <insanity99> And it can purge gdm whilst I am running it? tj
[23:51] <insanity99> Ok I'll do this now
[23:52] <TJ-> insanity99: in theory :)
[23:52] <TJ-> insanity99: I work from the command-line terminals a lot so rarely does the GUI get in my way
[23:53] <insanity99> Started the first command. Yeah, the CLI Linux uses does seem amazing. I can't wait to start learning it
[23:54] <Kumool> only because the GUIs are terrible
[23:55] <Kumool> i mean, why does thunar require me to right click on a file to rename it? this is just... infuriating
[23:55] <TJ-> The shell(s) are the powerful core of a Linux distro, letting you tie multiple single-purpose commands together in pipelines (output of one is piped to the input of the next) so you can create powerful filters easily
[23:55] <TJ-> Kumool: doesn't the F2 hot-key do that?
[23:55] <insanity99> Kumool, What's your favourite GUI?
[23:57] <insanity99> TJ-, I'm learning to program with Python and it covers things like automation. I think bash scripts will be good for that yes?
[23:57] <Kumool> TJ-, sigh, yeah but, explorer's behavior on this is so just, smooth
[23:57] <TJ-> Kumool: what does explorer do?
[23:58] <Kumool> TJ-, if you click on the filename it automatically renames it, in the window, no pop-up dialogue either
[23:59] <TJ-> Kumool: I prefer a dialog with a cancel button - that inline rename can easily be accidentally triggered