[12:00] <tonyyarusso> GhostFreeman, Change all of the hoary references in your sources.lst to breezy, and then do apt-get dist-upgrade.
[12:00] <sharn> quick question: how do i get to root in a terminal?
[12:00] <Seveas> !root
[12:00] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> palomer, Oh really?  So where was it?
[12:00] <yggdrasil_> hahah oh no
[12:00] <GhostFreeman> thanks
[12:01] <khermans> ython
[12:01] <sharn> quick question: how do i get to root in a terminal?
[12:01] <SuperSam> Hello
[12:01] <Jeeves_Moss> ubotu:  I'm assumeing you want to change your root password in Ubuntu?
[12:01] <SuperSam> sudo -s
[12:01] <ubotu> Jeeves_Moss: I give up, what is it?
[12:01] <navarone> I wonder what percentage of people asking about root accounts come back after messing up their systems...? <s>
[12:01] <Seveas> sharn, ubotu just told it
[12:01] <palomer> tonyyarusso: right beside akistan
[12:01] <sharn> ok
[12:01] <Seveas> sudo -s is BAD
[12:01] <SuperSam> Sharn "sudo -s"
[12:01] <Seveas> use sudo -i
[12:01] <Jeeves_Moss> sharn:  open a seprate chat and I'll tell you how to.
[12:01] <SuperSam> Sorry, I'm a newby, learnt that today
[12:02] <sharn> i got it frm supersam
[12:02] <Seveas> SuperSam, then forget it again, you need sudo -i :)
[12:02] <SuperSam> ok ty :P
[12:02] <tonyyarusso> Can Thunderbird have more than two e-mail addresses associated with a contact?
[12:02] <ReWind^> Would anyone happen to have any other good ideas how I can figure out what's causing ubuntu to brown-screen-with-mousepointer if I try the standard gnome login?
[12:03] <SuperSam> how do i chmod a whole directory including its folders and files inside?
[12:03] <Seveas> chmod -R
[12:03] <navarone> ReWind^, you mean brown screen with frozen mouse pointer?
[12:03] <SuperSam> Thanks
[12:03] <SuperSam> So it would be chmod -R 777 </dir>?
[12:03] <trappist> wtfno
[12:03] <tonyyarusso> SuperSam, Yeah.
[12:04] <SuperSam> Thankyou!
[12:04] <ReWind^> navarone: No, the mouse pointer moves, and I can manually start stuff in gnome if I do the emergency xterm logon, but I have to start everything including gnome-panel, x-window-manager manually
[12:04] <trappist> SuperSam: no!
[12:04] <trappist> SuperSam: wtf are you doing?
[12:04] <SuperSam> Huh?
[12:04] <dooglus> I imagine you can set all the virtual consoles to be blue at boot time by writing "set i in 1 2 3 4 5 6; do setterm -background blue >> /dev/tty$i; done" into /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[12:04] <SuperSam> oh its ok, im on a lan
[12:04] <trappist> SuperSam: that's basically never ok.
[12:04] <trappist> gah.
[12:04] <SuperSam> 777 was an example
[12:04] <dooglus> s/set/for/
[12:04] <trappist> aight then :)
[12:04] <SuperSam> :P
[12:04] <ReWind^> navarone: Tried a few of the common solutions, but I don't seem to have one of the common problems causing it, hehe:)
[12:04] <sorush20> /anyone here using dapper?
[12:05] <dooglus> sorush20: me, me
[12:05] <navarone> ReWind^, are you booting to graphical login at all?
[12:05] <sorush20> dooglus: are you confident with all its features?
[12:05] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, How are you liking it?
[12:05] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: it's groovy, man
[12:05] <erUSUL> i need to get a newer version of wireless-tools than the one shipped with breezy. i have googled to no avail. anyone knows how or whre to get it?
[12:05] <sorush20> dooglus: do you like
[12:05] <ReWind^> navarone: Yes, I'm in X-Chat atm, but I had to start it all with sudo -b from the emergency xterm
[12:05] <dooglus> sorush20: it has bugs, but what doesn't?
[12:05] <sorush20> dooglus: where are the bugs ?
[12:05] <navarone> ReWind^, sry...no idea...but will try a google...:)
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Does it come with yellow and pink flower themes, man?
[12:06] <dooglus> sorush20: I use it on my day-to-day machine and it's fine.  lots of updates - like maybe 5 to 10 sets of updates per day - but nothing much breaks
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL, What version do you have?
[12:06] <ReWind^> navarone: Thanks:) Already tried a few, but still having a spot of trouble with it, seems most people have GFX trouble causing this, but doesn't seem to be the case here
[12:06] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: it has a few new pretty grapics, but no flower power :)
[12:06] <navarone> ReWind^, you did standard install?
[12:06] <sorush20> sorush20: what version kopete do you have on it and more directly to the question what program do you use to vid chat?
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, Oooh..
[12:06] <dooglus> sorush20: they come and go
[12:07] <sharn> Jeeves_Moss:  do you think if i reinstalled ubuntu in front of ms it would work?
[12:07] <ReWind^> navarone: I suspect it's my soundcard as changing any relating settings in what tools I can find makes X freeze, but I'm not really sure if that's just a reaction to something else not starting
[12:07] <ReWind^> navarone: Aye, standard AMD64 first, now on i386 standard
[12:07] <navarone> ReWind^, could be a problem with irq sharing...but I dunno
[12:07] <ReWind^> navarone: 5.10 'course:)
[12:07] <sharn> Jeeves_Moss: none of the stuff in the terminal works right
[12:07] <sun_> hi how do i upgrade to the new distro im on hoary
[12:07] <SuperSam> can somebody tell me the difference between sudo -s and sudo -i
[12:07] <dooglus> sorush20: I've kept breezy around on another partition, so if dapper fails I can still use ubuntu
[12:07] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL, I have 27+28pre8-1ubuntu4, which I believe to be up to date.
[12:08] <demantik> does the hoary live cd support mounting reiser partitions ?
[12:08] <dooglus> sorush20: but I've not had to boot into breezy for a couple of months now
[12:08] <ReWind^> navarone: Seems like everything pretty much is working except it just ignoresany startupscripts the normal login is supposed to run in gnome
[12:08] <yggdrasil_> is therea pager for gnome and thunderbird ?
[12:08] <SuperSam> Rupert`: Hi :)
[12:08] <Rupert`> hi
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> sun_, Change all of the hoary references in /etc/apt/sources.list to breezy, and then apt-get dist-upgrade.
[12:08] <sorush20> dooglus: do you have a set of repositories?
[12:08] <sharn> Jeeves_Moss:  do you think if i reinstalled ubuntu in front of ms it would work?
[12:08] <sorush20> dooglus: could you pastebin it?
[12:08] <tonyyarusso> Why does update-grub not recognize that my /boot is on a separate partition?
[12:08] <ReWind^> yggdrasil: Page you mean? www.getfirefox.com, there's a link to forums there somewhere
[12:09] <sorush20> sharn: are you a woman?
[12:09] <navarone> ReWind^, are you able to save files to your filesystem without errors ?
[12:09] <sharn> sorush20: why?
[12:09] <ReWind^> navarone: Very good question, I'll try, although I know I can write to xorg.conf at least
[12:09] <yggdrasil_> rewind no  i mean like an icon that sits on the bar and tells me i ve got mail
[12:09] <sun_> tonyyarusso is this a risky thing, or did it proceed smoothly? thanks for the info
[12:09] <dooglus> SuperSam: the difference is that -i gives you root's environment, which -s leaves you with your own.
[12:09] <sorush20> just good to see the more women using linux
[12:09] <yggdrasil_> uh panel
[12:09] <dooglus> SuperSam: run "echo $HOME" in both to see the difference
[12:09] <sharn> sorush: no i am not......
[12:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sorush20: Yeah... all both of them... ;)
[12:09] <navarone> ReWind^, okay...was wondering if maybe you had fs set as ro and not able to save settings or something weird like that
[12:09] <ReWind^> yggdrasil: Yes, Thunderbird will do that automatically if you set it to check for mail regularily. You can set it to check, but not download automatically.
[12:10] <dooglus> sorush20: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6924
[12:10] <yggdrasil_> right but i wanna little icon that tells me how many msgs
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> sun_, Should be just fine.  You probably want to make sure your hoary things are up to date beforehand though.  And if you've deleted the ubuntu-desktop metapackage you'll want to get it back before doing it.
[12:10] <yggdrasil_> rewind hang on
[12:10] <ReWind^> navarone: Aye, there was a tip about this about some wrong security descriptors in a dir from someone with a similar problem, but they'd upgraded so I figured it shouldn't be a problem for a clean install
[12:10] <sun_> tonyyarusso ok thanks
[12:10] <yggdrasil_> rewind like how gaim if you close it it statys running but puts the little dood on the panel ? i want that
[12:10] <tonyyarusso> sorush20, I tried to get a friend to try it, but she's not buying it just yet.
[12:11] <sun_> how to set the default printer?
[12:11] <ReWind^> yggdrasil: Aye, it should pop up a tooltip to let you know the amount of messys too I believe
[12:11] <Chris_Tucker> how does one add a user to the sudoers group via console?
[12:11] <sorush20> tonyyarusso: its just line selling Jesus or what ever..
[12:11] <sun_> chris_tucker visudo as root
[12:11] <ReWind^> yggdrasil: Don't think there's a standalone, will only work while Thunderbird is running tmk
[12:11] <navarone> ReWind^, do you have both amd64 and 386 kernels installed still? And do they both give you grief?
[12:11] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: to be a sudoer all you need is to be in the right group
[12:11] <tonyyarusso> sun_, System > Administration > Printing, in Gnome.
[12:11] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: don't visudo
[12:11] <yggdrasil_> do you guys like thunderbird or evolution ?
[12:12] <Chris_Tucker> dooglus, i mean to ADD another Sudoer
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> sorush20, I don't sell Jesus.  I give that away.
[12:12] <ReWind^> navarone: Just i386 now, I did a fresh format of my linux partitions when I migrated from AMD64 to i386
[12:12] <Knowerrors>  I have an external v92 modem I use to connect to dialup internet... since will use one line, I need a way for either call waiting to ring through and disconnect the internet, or have an option onscreen to switch over and put the internet on hold, is this possible in linux?
[12:12] <graft> ygg: i'm still using NMH
[12:12] <Chris_Tucker> hm
[12:12] <sun_> tonyyarusso is there a way w/o gnome?
[12:12] <Prozac> I need some help setting up pidentd. Cant really figure out how to set a userdefined reply
[12:12] <tonyyarusso> yggdrasil, Thunderbird myself.
[12:12] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: first run       sudo grep % /etc/sudoers | awk '{print $1}'
[12:12] <sun_> tonyyarusso i use ion
[12:12] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: that will tell you what group you need to be in
[12:13] <yggdrasil_> i was having a hard time getting evolution to sort out my multiple email accounts
[12:13] <tonyyarusso> sun_, There must be, but I don't know it.  There are some more cli-oriented people in here that might know.
[12:13] <yggdrasil_> it was totaly screwing them up
[12:13] <navarone> yggdrasil, I find evol okay...but seesm a bit of a resource hog...however I have not compared what thunderbird would be like as far as resources are concerned. Evolution has a whole suite installed so that may be the resource hungry bit there...<shrug>
[12:13] <graft> have you tried kmail?
[12:13] <ReWind^> ygg: Haven't really run much aside from Thunderbird for a while
[12:13] <dooglus> Chris_Tucker: on my system, all members of the admin group are allowed to sudo.  so to add another sudoer, all I do is add the user to the admin group
[12:13] <yggdrasil_> thats what im running
[12:13] <Malachi> yggdrasill: Wouldn't it be cool if there was a  Mozilla program (like ThunderBird) that would do everything Evolution does?
[12:13] <sun_> how to set the default printer from cli?
[12:13] <sorush20> is there any IRC client that can tell the male to female ration of a room just for fun?
[12:13] <yggdrasil_> i did notice that evolution has a few extras
[12:14] <Malachi> yggdrasil_: Spelled your name wrong...
[12:14] <Malachi> Heh.
[12:14] <Chris_Tucker> dooglus, well what your saying is probably right, it appears i asked in the wrong channel, im asking for pure debian... im off to find the right chan now
[12:14] <dooglus> sorush20: I wrote one, but it kept getting "divide by zero" errors
[12:14] <yggdrasil_> tried it for a while but then i jus switched over to thunder
[12:14] <Malachi> yggdrasil_: Do you know of any programs that come close?
[12:14] <Korupt> is there a howto anywhere for using WEP with wap_supplicant??
[12:14] <navarone> sorush20, that would require dna sampling or believing whatever gender people specify...<s>
[12:14] <yggdrasil_> malachi nope
[12:14] <yggdrasil_> aside from trying outlook with wine ?
[12:14] <Korupt> navarone, goto #ubuntu-offtopic plz
[12:14] <ReWind^> navarone: I have Synaptic running now, so going to try and find a log-file viewer and make some sense of it;)
[12:15] <trappist> kmail comes hella close
[12:15] <navarone> korupt pardon?
[12:15] <SuperSam> outlook with wine - was that successful?
[12:15] <yggdrasil_> kmail huh ?
[12:15] <yggdrasil_> i doubt it supersam i just threw it out to ...
[12:15] <Korupt> navarone, the discussion you were having... a bit too far off topic  ;)
[12:15] <yggdrasil_> cuz im ignorant and this is ow i get attention
[12:15] <SuperSam> oh right
[12:15] <SuperSam> lol
[12:15] <graft> yggdrasil_: KDE, konsarnit... you've hearda that, eh?
[12:15] <navarone> One comment does not s discussion make :)
[12:16] <sorush20> so if I change my repositories to dapper ..
[12:16] <yggdrasil_> graft nah dood
[12:16] <sorush20> then upgrade.. and then change repositories back to breezy will I be able to downgrade?
[12:16] <trappist> sorush20: no
[12:16] <yggdrasil_> im downloading the flight sim right now or id fire up my synaptics
[12:16] <dooglus> sorush20: I don't think so
[12:16] <Gnagert> I need some really newbie-questions.. someone ??
[12:16] <Korupt> anyway.... anybody catch my question?
[12:16] <yggdrasil_> graft explai nkonsarnit
[12:17] <trappist> Gnagert: how do I make a new folder <-- how's that?
[12:17] <Gnagert> sorry.. i need help whith these questiones...
[12:17] <trappist> :)
[12:17] <sorush20> Korupt: what are you talking about
[12:17] <trappist> Gnagert: hafta ask them first.
[12:17] <dooglus> Korupt: there's something on the wiki I've used before.  Not sure exactly where though sorry.
[12:17] <graft> yggdrasil_: err... i was just making a kde joke
[12:17] <tonyyarusso> Can Thunderbird have more than two e-mail addresses associated with a contact?
[12:17] <dooglus> Gnagert: just ask them
[12:18] <Korupt> sorush: wpa_supplicant is theoretically able to be configured to use WEP.... but everything I've found so far doesn't work
[12:18] <yggdrasil_> graft bastard
[12:18] <dooglus> Korupt: I didn't have any problems setting it up at all
[12:18] <graft> yggdrasil_: hey! no way, i've had paternity testing done
[12:18] <yggdrasil_> i wouldnt put it past them though
[12:19] <Gnagert> i've just installed ubuntu, never used linux before.. want to install a couple of programs but I don't get how to get these.. ?
[12:19] <dooglus> Korupt: but it wasn't on a machine I have access to any more unfortunately
[12:19] <Korupt> dooglus, crappage
[12:19] <SuperSam> GnaGert, www.google.co.uk/linux < Try it
[12:19] <graft> now I'm wondering if there's a KDE md5 checker called "Korupt"
[12:19] <dooglus> Gnagert: on the system menu, click 'administration' and then 'synaptic package manager'.
[12:19] <dooglus> Gnagert: you install things using synaptic
[12:19] <chrisx1> How do i upgrade from Hoary to Breezy?
[12:20] <sorush20> Korupt: wpa are you talking about dapper?
[12:20] <bimberi> !breezy
[12:20] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:20] <chrisx1> ty
[12:20] <Pygi> bye
[12:20] <graft> chrisx1: just change your repository line from hoary to breezy and do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[12:20] <bimberi> yw :)
[12:20] <Gnagert> I didnt install the graphics..
[12:21] <dooglus> Gnagert: what do you want to install?
[12:21] <Korupt> sorush20, I am using dapper.... but that should be irrespective... wpa_supplicant is a package that allows WPA wireless access.... but at the expense of easily using WEP
[12:21] <Gnagert> for example ftp-server..
[12:22] <dooglus> Gnagert: run "apt-cache search ftp" to search for ftp packages
[12:22] <dooglus> Gnagert: "apt-cache search ftp | grep server" to limit the output to ftp servers
[12:22] <DShepherd> how do you list only directories at the CLI?
[12:23] <ubuntu> hello
[12:23] <sorush20> is there a dapper room anywehre?
[12:23] <graft> wow! the king himself!
[12:23] <dooglus> Gnagert: one of the lines I get back from the apt-search is "ftpd - FTP server".  to install it, run "sudo apt-get install ftpd"
[12:23] <SuperSam> Im testing my iPod in this machine..
[12:23] <ubuntu> ...
[12:23] <bimberi> DShepherd: ls -l | grep ^d
[12:23] <dooglus> sorush20: I think this is about as close to a dapper room as there is
[12:23] <yggdrasil_> im ircing from my ipod
[12:23] <graft> sorush20: i think this is the dapper room, more or less
[12:23] <SuperSam> ircing
[12:24] <SuperSam> how the fuck did you do that
[12:24] <ubuntu> Chule?
[12:24] <ubuntu> Chile?
[12:24] <graft> SuperSam: by lying
[12:24] <sorush20> well lest ask Seveas
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> I didn't know installing KDE would add its apps to the Gnome menus...
[12:24] <SuperSam> _ was going to say
[12:24] <SuperSam> lol
[12:24] <yggdrasil_> i installed kde on my ipod
[12:24] <sorush20> ubuntu are you really called ubuntu?
[12:24] <Seveas> sorush20, ?
[12:24] <graft> you know, i bet you could install kde on an ipod, too
[12:25] <sorush20> Seveas: just want to know how do down grade to breezy from dapper?
[12:25] <DShepherd> bimberi: thanks..
[12:25] <Gnagert> dooglus: what is these lines? programs?
[12:25] <ReWind^> Does anyone know where I would be looking for a log that gives insight into what happens after I log in from the Ubuntu login/pass prompt? My startup halts at around the time of the "welcome" sound.
[12:25] <SuperSam> Linux will conquer the world soon
[12:25] <vincenz> That's odd
[12:25] <dooglus> Gnagert: those lines are commands
[12:25] <bimberi> DShepherd: np :)
[12:25] <vincenz> I'm having problems installing ubuntu
[12:25] <SuperSam> They are making Linux for Mobile phones
[12:25] <graft> ReWind^: i'm willing to bet 10 to 1 you don't have a loopback interface
[12:25] <SuperSam> they have a release for the Soney Ericsson P900+
[12:25] <GhostFreeman> Is there an application I can use to limit application's download speed in a similar manner to NetLimiter?
[12:25] <DShepherd> bimberi: ow do you do the reverse that is list files only?
[12:25] <dooglus> Gnagert: you said you didn't install the GUI for ubuntu?  so all you have is the command line?  or what?
[12:25] <warreng> is there a gnome applet for wifi that just.... works? networkmanager never seems to work well... the default one that comes with ubuntu requires like 20 clicks every time to get it to go on a network.... i just want wireless to work
[12:25] <Seveas> sorush20, not
[12:25] <Seveas> reinstall
[12:25] <dooglus> DShepherd: this will list directories too:    find . -type d -maxdepth 1
[12:25] <ReWind^> graft: Humm, good question, give me a sec to check it out
[12:26] <yggdrasil_> i put network manager on my ipod
[12:26] <vincenz> I'm installing ubuntu on my laptop...everything works fine until it installs the base system... it gets an error while installing the base system, tells me there's a log, but ther is no log
[12:26] <Nei> my aptitude always forget the available packages, would someone know what happened?
[12:26] <Gnagert> dooglus: hrmm.. I can't find "ftpd - FTP server"
[12:26] <nekostar> ok new problem:
[12:26] <warreng> i want one that works like windows..... you have a list of "acceptable networks" and an order of preference
[12:26] <Gnagert> dooglus: yes
[12:26] <bimberi> DShepherd: ls -l | grep -v ^d
[12:26] <ReWind^> graft: Would that be visible in the network settings? Currently just have eth0 and ppp0 there
[12:26] <nekostar> i put my old dns server from my isp in and my new one in for ubuntu [i moved so i get a new one ;) ]
[12:26] <vincenz> Please advise
[12:27] <graft> ReWind^: maybe not... check it in the shell with ifconfig -a
[12:27] <Johnny0> Hiya everyone
[12:27] <nekostar> but ubuntu cant actually do the name lookups; though it will do ip pings instead
[12:27] <dooglus> DShepherd: "find -maxdepth 1 -type f" will list only files
[12:27] <Rupert`> Does the default ATI driver that comes with Ubuntu have any sort of 3D support?
[12:27] <nekostar> any clue what is really going on and what i can do to fix it?
[12:27] <bimberi> dooglus: ah "-maxdepth 1" - i was wondering :)
[12:27] <nekostar> also how can ido manually a ifupdown cycle so i dont have to restart !_!
[12:27] <ReWind^> graft: Looks like I have it, eth0, lo and sit0 are present
[12:27] <dooglus> bimberi: if you put the "-type d" before the "-maxdepth 1" it complains a bit :)
[12:27] <Johnny0> Rupert - I have a ATI MobilityRadeon X300 that Im having issues with under Ubuntu
[12:27] <DShepherd> dooglus: thanks, bimberi thanks too
[12:28] <Belboz99> Hey, I've got two machines running Linux, both with SSH servers.  How do I specify which one to log onto when accesing them remotely?
[12:28] <nekostar> running openbox so its all manually inputted if that matters to anyone
[12:28] <graft> ReWind^: crap. looks like i'm out 10 to 1.
[12:28] <Rupert`> I've got an X300 too
[12:28] <vincenz> I'm installing ubuntu on my laptop...everything works fine until it installs the base system... it gets an error while installing the base system, tells me there's a log, but ther is no log
[12:28] <Rupert`> not mobility though
[12:28] <dooglus> Gnagert: having problems still?
[12:28] <tonyyarusso> Can I tell Gnome/KDE only to include their apps in their own menus, and stay out of each others' space?  (So, for instance, Kontact would not show up in the Applications menu under Gnome, but would in KDE)
[12:28] <Johnny0> Dell 9300 here
[12:28] <Rupert`> heh
[12:28] <ReWind^> graft: Hehe, that's ok, I won't hold you to it:P
[12:28] <Rupert`> ive got a dell too
[12:28] <ReWind^> graft: Any ideas are more than welcome;)
[12:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> nekostar: run ifdown and ifup
[12:28] <Rupert`> i just need to get 3D working so i can play guild wars in wine
[12:28] <nekostar> vincenz did you look in /var ?
[12:28] <DShepherd> dooglus, bimberi I need to go and learn this stuff. anywhere you guys can point me? I guess google would hav helped.. I was searching the ls man page like I was mad
[12:28] <nekostar> PuMpErNiCkLe thanx
[12:28] <Johnny0> I hear ya
[12:29] <vincenz> nekostar: nothing there
[12:29] <dooglus> nekostar: "sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0"
[12:29] <nekostar> gotcha
[12:29] <Johnny0> someone here should be able to help
[12:29] <vincenz> /target/var/log/bootsomething.log
[12:29] <Rupert`> thers some drivers on ati.com
[12:29] <vincenz> ain't there
[12:29] <Gnagert> dooglus: yes, I dont see this 2ftpd"
[12:29] <Johnny0> gnomefreak: if he's around
[12:29] <dooglus> DShepherd: "man find"
[12:29] <Rupert`> they look quite complicated though and I think its the ones that come with ubuntu anyway
[12:29] <nekostar> vincenz i honestly dont know a lot about it... but maybe if you look during the install its somwhere?
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> Why does update-grub not recognize that my /boot is on a separate partition?
[12:29] <bimberi> DShepherd: hanging out here is an excellent way :) - also there's ...
[12:29] <bimberi> ubotu tell DShepherd about cli
[12:29] <tonyyarusso> Can Thunderbird have more than two e-mail addresses associated with a contact?
[12:29] <dooglus> Gnagert: does "apt-cache show ftpd" show it?
[12:29] <SuperSam> Johnny0: Open terminal, and try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:29] <ReWind^> I'm feeling tempted to dub this the brown screen of death... It seems resilient:P
[12:29] <graft> ReWind^: dunno, you're pretty screwed... there's no general "Gnome Logs" or anything...
[12:29] <Nameeater> what could be causing my headless box's connection to the network when its attached to a monitor/keyboard/mouse but not when its completely headless? :/
[12:29] <navarone> ReWind^, it's still possible you have an irq sharing problem...I have heard of people experiencing that kinda thing...maybe video and sound are sharing irq and disrupting each other. That may explain the hanging when log on sound occurs...<?>
[12:30] <vincenz> nekostar: well while installing the base packages it gives me that error
[12:30] <DShepherd> bimberi, dooglus thanks again for the help.
[12:30] <Nameeater> network conenction not work*
[12:30] <bimberi> DShepherd: yw :)
[12:30] <Johnny0> SuperSam: What will that accomplish ?
[12:30] <ReWind^> navarone: Ok, thanks for the idea, I'll poke around in the bios and force a few and see if it makes a difference:)
[12:30] <dooglus> DShepherd: glad to help
[12:30] <graft> ReWind^: try disabling sounds first
[12:30] <ReWind^> graft: Doh, I was hoping for some nice NT-like ones, hehe :)
[12:30] <graft> before you go mucking around in the bios
[12:30] <nekostar> ok let me switch back to linux and give it a shot
[12:30] <SuperSam> Johnny0, goes through settings in a more detailed way, it should help you set it up fast
[12:30] <navarone> ReWind^, I think lspci may give you some clues if that is the problem
[12:31] <Gnagert> dooglus: Ive installed ubuntu in swedish.. i get this: couldnt fint packet ftpd, no packed found..
[12:31] <sorush20> is dapper using kde 3.5?
[12:31] <Gnagert> dooglus: freelie translated :)
[12:31] <Johnny0> will attempt that SuperSam
[12:31] <ReWind^> graft: Aye, just poked around there a bit, not sure I've turned it off completely though
[12:31] <graft> sorush20: yeah, dapper uses kde 3.5
[12:32] <dooglus> Gnagert: aah.  "ftpd" is in the "universe" repository.  you'll need to enable that if you want it.
[12:32] <ReWind^> navarone: Humm, my vid card shows up as 0000:02:00.0, but it looks from the other ones as the 2 next to last figures are the IRQ's
[12:32] <Gnagert> dooglus: and that means? like i said.. I newer (!) used linux before
[12:33] <dooglus> Gnagert: edit /etc/apt/sources.list to look something like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6925
[12:33] <navarone> ReWind^, lspci -v will give verbose results and show irq settings for devices
[12:33] <DShepherd> does anyone know if nautilus can, in breezy of in dapper, show files only OR directories only?
[12:33] <sorush20> can I keep Seveas repositories with dapper?
[12:33] <DShepherd> of =or
[12:33] <ReWind^> navarone: Oooh, sorry about that, thanks:)
[12:33] <dooglus> sorush20: I don't know.  I only use the official repositories
[12:33] <sorush20> can I keep Breezy back ports with dapper ?
[12:33] <yggdrasil_> can i run a vdr install from synaptic ?
[12:34] <Seveas> sorush20, maybe
[12:34] <dooglus> sorush20: breezy-backports are for packages backported from dapper - so you wouldn't need it
[12:34] <Seveas> sorush20, it's not recommened though
[12:34] <Seveas> but java is definitely possible
[12:34] <Seveas> freenx not
[12:34] <Malachi> Has anyone had a problem with Totem/mozilla-mplayer playing abnormally fast?
[12:34] <Brokenrgv> hi ppl just got ubuntu working with everything i want and sooo happy
[12:35] <bob832> hi, setting up a ftp server however, when i open up firefox on a computer on my lan and attempt to connect to the server, it never shows a login prompt, just an error for an incorrect login...what should i do?
[12:35] <Gnagert> dooglus:  "unknown mime-type for "etc/apt/sources.lite" -- using application/*"
[12:35] <ReWind^> navarone: Oooh, there might be something here! My vid card has it's own IRQ, but my audio controller (Via 82x onboard) is sharing it's IRQ quite liberally
[12:35] <vincenz> Anyone know why it might crash during installation?
[12:35] <sorush20> what about this repository deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[12:35] <graft> ReWind^: IRQs can be shared, though
[12:35] <graft> doesn't necessarily mean that much
[12:35] <Seveas> ReWind^, that's completely normal
[12:35] <navarone> ReWind^,  for example I have three devices sharing irq9 (with no problems knock wood) maybe devices are sharing and conflicting in your system. If any are sharing I dunno how to specifiy different ones tho
[12:35] <dooglus> Gnagert: what command did you run?
[12:36] <ReWind^> graft: Aye, true enough, but there also seems to be some abnormalities with the audio, it crashes if I fiddle around with it too much etc
[12:36] <Gnagert> dooglus:  just like you wrote
[12:36] <yggdrasil_> yea i was noticing that totem wasnt realy the best player
[12:36] <yggdrasil_> vlc seemed to work nicer
[12:36] <lightbright> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:36] <lightbright>   <-- ANY fix for this?
[12:36] <dooglus> Gnagert: ah.  I was writing in English, not in "linux"
[12:36] <graft> ReWind^: well... i'd be really surprised if it was IRQs, unless you have some non-standard kernel
[12:36] <Gnagert> dooglus: ohh..
[12:36] <Gnagert> dooglus: sorry
[12:37] <tonyyarusso> Can I tell Gnome/KDE only to include their apps in their own menus, and stay out of each others' space?  (So, for instance, Kontact would not show up in the Applications menu under Gnome, but would in KDE)
[12:37] <lightbright> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[12:37] <lightbright>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:37] <lightbright>   <--- Any fix for this???
[12:37] <navarone> ReWind^, you have both amd64 and 386 kernels still installed? If so are you getting more or less same problems using either?
[12:37] <dooglus> Gnagert: run "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[12:37] <ReWind^> graft, navarone, Seveas: Ok, I might be clutching at straws a little, lol... Having a lot of trouble breaking this problem, it's the weirdest thing since it works if I just start everything manually
[12:37] <lightbright> does anyone know of a breezy sources.list that doesnt actually give ANY error messages?
[12:37] <ozgurgerilla> exactly what plug in do I need to compile java files in the shell?
[12:37] <dooglus> Gnagert: and edit it to look like the sources.list I pasted at the URL I told you earlier
[12:37] <graft> mplayer is definitely my favorite overall... better than xine for sure
[12:37] <dooglus> Gnagert: (assuming you're on breezy and want to enable all the official repositories)
[12:37] <ReWind^> navarone: Just had one kernel at a time, first a base AMD64 install and then a base i386 install, both gave identical results
[12:37] <Seveas> lightbright, the standard ones such as psatebin post 6047 are good
[12:38] <navarone> ReWind^, okay
[12:38] <Gnagert> dooglus: what is breezy?
[12:38] <vincenz> :(
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> Gnagert, The 5.10 release.
[12:38] <vincenz> blegh
[12:38] <Knowerrors> Any dialup modem users in here?  Need help getting modem on hold working, if possible
[12:38] <Paradosso> hi
[12:38] <dooglus> Gnagert: it's version 5.10 of ubuntu
[12:38] <ReWind^> navarone: The only google fix I can find that I haven't fully explored so far is using the nvidia driver instead of the nv one because (blush), I can't get the nvidia one to work
[12:38] <Paradosso> does anyone has the link to the current skype .deb package please
[12:39] <graft> ReWind^: yeah, definitely switch to the nvidia driver, it's much better than the nv one
[12:39] <navarone> ReWind^, what card are you using?
[12:39] <Gnagert> dooglus: i don't know which release i got
[12:39] <dooglus> Gnagert: "cat /etc/lsb-release" will tell you
[12:39] <ReWind^> graft, navarone: I'm using a GF6800
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> Paradosso, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/.
[12:39] <Rupert`> is there any good easy to configure ATI driver for ubuntu that supports 3D?
[12:40] <Paradosso> thanks tonyyarusso
[12:40] <graft> ReWind^: load up multiverse and pop the nvidia non-free driver in there
[12:40] <Plazma> has anyone successfully gotten an ipod to work in ubuntu via firewire?
[12:40] <ReWind^> graft, navarone: But I'm just getting no signal every time I try to get the nvidia ones up and running, I suspect it might have something to do with my 70hz max lcd on a DVI plug
[12:40] <tonyyarusso> Paradosso, np.  But be prepared for trouble loading the page; the wiki's been weird today.
[12:40] <graft> ReWind^: no signal?
[12:40] <Gnagert> dooglus: [Release=5.10) :)
[12:41] <Johnny0> Ok
[12:41] <dooglus> Gnagert: right.  breezy.
[12:41] <ReWind^> graft: Can I get multiverse from synaptic, or is it a seperate thing?
[12:41] <Johnny0> went through it fine supersam
[12:41] <dooglus> can it really be true that there's no FTP server in the main repository?
[12:41] <Plazma> ReWind^, put it in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[12:41] <Plazma> and then synaptic will geti t
[12:41] <ReWind^> graft: Aye, although I have no way of testing whether it's not sending a signal, or just not sending a signal within my monitors specs
[12:41] <Johnny0> Rupert`: did that fix your issue as well ?
[12:42] <graft> ReWind^: yeah, but that's easily trouble-shot via Xorg logs
[12:42] <Gnagert> dooglus: this file is full of text?
[12:42] <Johnny0> I have a new 20" LCD that I am trying to figure how how to get it work work in Ubuntu - not sure how to switch monitor selection
[12:42] <dooglus> ftpd, ftpd-ssl, inetutils-ftpd, krb5-ftpd, libnet-ftpserver-perl, pure-ftpd, tftpd, twoftpd, wu-ftpd, and wzdftpd are all in universe
[12:42] <dooglus> Gnagert: yes, it will be.
[12:42] <graft> Johnny0: what X-server are you running?
[12:42] <Gnagert> dooglus: delete?
[12:42] <Rupert`> Johnny0 did sam's thing fix anything?
[12:42] <Johnny0> Gnome
[12:42] <dooglus> Gnagert: you might find the 'universe' line in there commented out - I forget.
[12:42] <ReWind^> Plazma: I'm afraid I fell off the boat for a second there, lol
[12:42] <Johnny0> gnome graft
[12:42] <dooglus> Gnagert: you could just uncomment the line with 'universe' in it if it's there
[12:43] <Plazma> ReWind^, yea? i fell of a long time ago
[12:43] <graft> Johnny0: that's a desktop environment, not an X server...
[12:43] <ReWind^> graft: Ok, I'll try reinstalling them, I've only tried them on the AMD64 kernel, so there's also the possibility that the probs with them where specific to that build
[12:43] <graft> oic
[12:43] <ReWind^> Plazma: You mean I should put an address for multiverse in my sources.list file, right?
[12:44] <dooglus> !universe
[12:44] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:44] <Plazma> ReWind^, yes
[12:44] <dooglus> Gnagert: see the links that ubotu just said?
[12:45] <ReWind^> Plazma, ubotu: Excellent, thanks! :)
[12:45] <navarone> ReWind^, easier way to get multiverse is to open Synaptic and chose Setting/Repositories/Settings and make sure "Show disabled sources" is checked.Then other repos will be visible for you to check and enable
[12:45] <Gnagert> dooglus: yes
[12:45] <lightbright> does anyone know of a breezy sources.list that doesnt actually give ANY error messages?
[12:45] <Plazma> ReWind^, glad to be of helpb:D
[12:45] <lightbright> Seveas: 6047?
[12:45] <ReWind^> navarone: Cool, thank you:)
[12:45] <Johnny0> graft ? mind helping me on this
[12:45] <Seveas> lightbright, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[12:45] <Seveas> that one works
[12:45] <graft> Johnny0: um. trying to think of the best way for the linux-ignorant to determine this
[12:46] <Seveas> if it gives errors: apt-get update
[12:46] <Johnny0> :)
[12:46] <Seveas> THEN it works
[12:46] <graft> Johnny0: you can just do 'dpkg -l | grep xserver' in the shell
[12:46] <lightbright> Seveas http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047  <-- im using that now and it gives 3 errors!
[12:46] <Set_> !ssh
[12:46] <ubotu> it has been said that ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[12:46] <psusi> hrm... the bins in this package are being built with -g, and I set the -k flag to dh_strip, but the package still doesn't contain the debug symbol files... is there another step needed to get them to be included?
[12:46] <dooglus> lightbright: this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6925
[12:46] <Plazma> !beer
[12:46] <psusi> oops, wrong channel
[12:46] <lightbright> Seveas: for example, Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[12:46] <lightbright>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:46] <Plazma> thats what im talking about
[12:46] <Paradosso> Seveas, "deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas list_of_sections" should be pasted in /etc/apt/sources.list as it is
[12:46] <lightbright> dooglus: you using 6925?
[12:46] <Fujitsu_Edm> Hey all, need some help with Snort-Mysql,
[12:46] <Gnagert> dooglus: i dont get it.. uncomment?
[12:46] <Paradosso> or does "list_of_sections" stand for mthg?
[12:47] <graft> after he's done I need some help with Snort-Cocaine
[12:47] <navarone> Gnagert remove the "#" in front of line
[12:47] <lightbright> Seveas: what about http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6925 ?  will that work?
[12:47] <dooglus> Gnagert: lines beginning with a # are ignored
[12:47] <Johnny0> graft: 6.7.2-77 ???? is that what you were looking for ?
[12:47] <graft> ah yes
[12:47] <Fujitsu_Edm> Snort-Mysql is an open source IDS system
[12:48] <gnomefreak> lightbright, on this pastebin link doesnt show what is in your if your getting a gzip error than you have a repo that isnt on that list in yours
[12:48] <dooglus> Gnagert: so "uncomment" means to remove the "#" in front of the lines you want to use
[12:48] <yggdrasil_> whats ids ?
[12:48] <graft> Johnny0: probably you want to upgrade to the latest x-server... do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[12:48] <Fujitsu_Edm> Intrusion Detection System
[12:48] <yggdrasil_> oh
[12:48] <Gnagert> dooglus: there is a couple of lines with # in front of em'?
[12:48] <graft> but it should auto-detect your monitor anyway
[12:48] <Johnny0> I'll give it a whirl
[12:48] <Johnny0> be back in a few
[12:49] <dooglus> Gnagert: are there lines with the word 'universe' in them?
[12:49] <Johnny0> said it's already the latest version
[12:49] <Gnagert> dooglus: yes
[12:49] <Fujitsu_Edm> Hoping someone the here can help with the config
[12:49] <gnomefreak> lol lightbright  if your using the exact list of Madpilot's than you need to uncomment lines 9-11
[12:49] <gnomefreak> 19-21 also
[12:49] <dooglus> Gnagert: and they have '#' at the beginning?
[12:49] <graft> Johnny0: ... um. what are you running, breezy? hoary?
[12:49] <ReWind^> Ok, trying to grab the 7667 drivers now
[12:49] <Johnny0> breezy I assume
[12:49] <Seveas> Paradosso, NO
[12:49] <Seveas> read the wikipage
[12:49] <Gnagert> dooglus: 6 lines with # and finishing with universe
[12:50] <dooglus> Gnagert: so remove the # on those lines, then run "sudo apt-get update" to download the list of contents for the universe repository
[12:50] <Paradosso> which wikipage?
[12:50] <Seveas> lightbright, no that one will not work
[12:50] <dooglus> Gnagert: you probably don't want the 3 with "deb-src", but you want the other 3
[12:50] <graft> um. breezy should definitely be on 6.8.0 at least
[12:50] <graft> Johnny0: did you apt-get update recently?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> 6.8.0?
[12:50] <dooglus> Seveas: why do you say that?
[12:50] <Johnny0> graft: I didn't mention - I have a laptop - trying to use the DVI-D port for this monitor on my desk
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> Can I tell Gnome/KDE only to include their apps in their own menus, and stay out of each others' space?  (So, for instance, Kontact would not show up in the Applications menu under Gnome, but would in KDE)
[12:50] <ReWind^> Ok, I'm gonna try restarting X and see if that works! Be back soon if it does:) Thanks for all the help so far:)
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> Why does update-grub not recognize that my /boot is on a separate partition?
[12:50] <tonyyarusso> Can Thunderbird have more than two e-mail addresses associated with a contact?
[12:51] <Seveas> dooglus, breezy-security is not on archive.ubuntu.com
[12:51] <graft> Johnny0: OH... haha, quite different
[12:51] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, yes
[12:51] <graft> do you want a dual-head deal?
[12:51] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, How?
[12:51] <navarone> tonyyarusso, was boot always in a seperate partion?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, my thunderbird isnt sending email only reciving
[12:51] <dooglus> Seveas: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/ ?
[12:51] <Seveas> graft, 6.8.2 to be precisely vague :)
[12:51] <Seveas> dooglus, hmmm...
[12:51] <graft> tyvm, Seveas
[12:51] <tonyyarusso> navarone, No, but I did a fresh install since making it so, overwriting /, but not /home.
[12:51] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, when you add them to your address book there will be a place
[12:51] <Seveas> -EBRAINFART
[12:51] <Johnny0> graft: or the option to use the laptop screen or the 20inch or both - all options would be great
[12:51] <preben> WOHOO!
[12:51] <Plazma> has anyone had any luck getting an ipod to work with firewire in ubuntu?
[12:52] <Fujitsu_Edm> Hey all, need some help with Snort-Mysql,
[12:52] <vincenz> hmm
[12:52] <ReWind^> Ubuntu now officially -works- on my comp:)
[12:52] <graft> Johnny0: your laptop probably has some 'switch to monitor' key, right?
[12:52] <Johnny0> yes
[12:52] <vincenz> seems to be reading REALLY long from the cd for installing the "passwd" package
[12:52] <graft> like Fn-F7 or some such
[12:52] <Johnny0> function keys
[12:52] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, I only see e-mail and alternate e-mail address book fields, so it will only let me do two.
[12:52] <graft> just hit that...
[12:52] <Johnny0> no dice
[12:52] <graft> what's it do?
[12:52] <lightbright> Seveas: well can you please tell me any sources.list that will work without errors for Breezy?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, hold on a sec
[12:52] <ReWind^> Seems the nvidia-drivers were the key, and they installed like a doozy now:)
[12:53] <Seveas> lightbright, I told you about 4 times already....
[12:53] <lightbright> Seveas: my sources.list has always worked perfectly for months until today
[12:53] <graft> ReWind^: nice!
[12:53] <dooglus> lightbright: both the one I told you and the one Seveas told you are fine
[12:53] <Johnny0> nothing graft - I've tried that prior to coming in here
[12:53] <lightbright> Seveas: and I told you 3 times, it STILL gives errors
[12:53] <Seveas> lightbright, then paste the errors on the pastebin
[12:53] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: hi
[12:53] <yggdrasil_> how can i check what version of x im running ?
[12:53] <lightbright> Seveas lightbright, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 <--- GIVES errors
[12:53] <dooglus> lightbright: what error?
[12:53] <ReWind^> Thanks a lot graft, navarone and everyone else who helped!
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, You're back.
[12:53] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: any reason why the previous attempt at installing failed during base package installation
[12:53] <lightbright> Seveas: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[12:53] <lightbright> Seveas: ok
[12:53] <lightbright> brb
[12:53] <Johnny0> graft: lemme pull up the specs on this thing and see what it lists the keyboard as
[12:53] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: on my desktop, it's taking really long for the "passwd" package
[12:53] <Seveas> lightbright, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu*
[12:53] <gnomefreak> lightbright, get rid of the cdrom repo
[12:53] <Seveas> and retry
[12:54] <vincenz> ah, moved on to sudo
[12:54] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, look under the last tab you can do custom cant you?
[12:54] <lightbright> Seveas: i type:  sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu* ?
[12:54] <Seveas> yes
[12:54] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, Could be internet connection thing, system resources, or who knows what.  I'd say don't worry about it unless it stops entirely.
[12:54] <yggdrasil_> ok thats all i got im out
[12:54] <graft> yggdrasil_: check your xserver log
[12:54] <dooglus> yggdrasil: dpkg -l xserver-xorg
[12:55] <Johnny0> graft:  brb - will try running the setup again - I think I may have found the issue
[12:55] <cello_rasp> can anyone help me with mounting? i have an ipod shuffle that will only mount when ubuntu has been rebooted. I suspect the fact that it does not unmount cleanly has something to do with it, but it won't mount when plugged in. my other removable usb drive has no such problems..
[12:55] <Paradosso> Seveas, I replaced list_of_sections with backports custom FreeNX etc., I ran apt-get uodate a couple of times, it still gives errors
[12:55] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: it did last time
[12:55] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: it crashed during base package installatio
[12:55] <Seveas> Paradosso, errors on the pastebin
[12:55] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: referred me to an inexistant log
[12:55] <Johnny0> No need
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, True.  Didn't even think of that.  Is that the best way?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> cello_rasp, did you install banshee?
[12:55] <ubuntu> Hello
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, Not fun.  Not sure why.
[12:55] <Seveas> Paradosso, my repo (and mirrors) were malfunctioning in the last half our
[12:55] <cello_rasp> gnomefreak: no.
[12:55] <Johnny0> graft: all function keys except for the monitor switch is operating fine
[12:55] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, ive never used it so im not sure but looks like the only way
[12:55] <Paradosso> that's it maybe
[12:55] <cello_rasp> gnomefreak: this is only for using the shuffle as a removable drive
[12:55] <Seveas> Paradosso, so you might want to retry again, all should ne ok now
[12:55] <Paradosso> extras work
[12:55] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell cello_rasp about ipod
[12:56] <Paradosso> Java, FreeNX aren't found
[12:56] <Paradosso> tried 3 mirrors
[12:56] <Seveas> Paradosso, all lowercase
[12:56] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Well, at least I know that's a possibility.  Forgot those were there.
[12:56] <gnomefreak> cello_rasp, i have a shuffle working fine on mine
[12:56] <Seveas> not Java but java
[12:56] <graft> Johnny0: sure you don't have to press some other weird key combo?
[12:56] <Paradosso> ahh I see
[12:56] <Johnny0> nope
[12:56] <ubuntu> i have a problem
[12:56] <Johnny0> blue fn key and f8
[12:56] <ubuntu> can someone help me
[12:56] <gnomefreak> ubuntu, tell us what it is
[12:56] <graft> can you try it with a regular monitor?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> we cant help unless we know
[12:57] <graft> or do you only have DVI out?
[12:57] <cello_rasp> gnomefreak thanks, i just want to use it as a removable drive but it never unmounts properly.
[12:57] <tonyyarusso> !tell ubuntu about ask
[12:57] <ubuntu> well my computer only seems to be stable when i run ubuntu, weather it's from the live cd or install
[12:57] <Johnny0> I've got all different outputs
[12:57] <Johnny0> graft: before I boot into the desktop enviro - it allows me to switch
[12:57] <gnomefreak> ubuntu stable is good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:57] <lightbright> Seveas: when I used 6047, and then sudo apt-get update, I get the following errors you can see at:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6926
[12:57] <ubuntu> i guessing it does a better job at detecting my hardware
[12:58] <graft> Johnny0: ah... so it is an X server problem for sure
[12:58] <Johnny0> when it comes up tot he login page - and starts into the desktop enviro - poof - gone
[12:58] <ubuntu> so I was wondering how I could see what has been detected
[12:58] <Seveas> lightbright, even after that command I gave you a few minutes ago?
[12:58] <graft> Johnny0: err, the login screen it's still okay?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> lightbright, get rid of the cdrom repo!
[12:58] <Johnny0> yes - no further then that
[12:58] <graft> so only AFTER you've logged in does it crap out?
[12:58] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: hardinfo will probably be what you're looking for.
[12:58] <Johnny0> the function key will operate and switch just fine
[12:58] <Johnny0> yes
[12:58] <graft> hrm
[12:58] <Johnny0> craps out after login
[12:58] <graft> that's not an X problem
[12:58] <lightbright> gnomefreak: but I just copied and pasted the website Seveas gave me
[12:59] <gnomefreak> hes getting that i386 binary error
[12:59] <nipplesrulz> arg
[12:59] <nipplesrulz> so im kinda pulling my hair out here hehe
[12:59] <gnomefreak> thats caused byt the cdrom repo
[12:59] <lightbright> Seveas: im trying again withyour command!  what does  sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu*
[12:59] <lightbright>  do anyway?
[12:59] <nipplesrulz> ive got /etc/network/interfaces configged same on the other machine as this one
[12:59] <Knowerrors> Anyone know a way to make a dialup modem auto disconnect when the call waiting beep begins?  Like a way to be more sensitivie to line noise maybe
[12:59] <nipplesrulz> but it refuses to pull up the internet somehow
[12:59] <ubuntu> thank you very much
[12:59] <graft> Johnny0: does login work normally on your laptop? i mean you can normally use it okay
[01:00] <lightbright> Seveas: what does  "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu*"  do exactly anyway so I can learn
[01:00] <Paradosso> Seveas, still errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6927
[01:00] <nipplesrulz> when i run sudo ifdown -a // then sudo ifup -a only lo comes up for some reason
[01:00] <dooglus> lightbright: 'sudo' runs stuff as root, 'rm' removes stuff, /var/lib/apt/lists/ is where apt-get keeps the repository contents.
[01:00] <gnomefreak> light rm=remove
[01:00] <Johnny0> Yes
[01:00] <Johnny0> using it now
[01:00] <nipplesrulz> is there a way to reconfigure em from scratch? the file is the same on that one as this one and this one works fine.
[01:00] <dooglus> lightbright: so the command deletes the corrupted stuff you've got that's messing things up
[01:00] <Seveas> lightbright, it cleans out the caches listings
[01:00] <Gnagert> dooglus: Hi again... changed this file that it looked like the one in the link.. now i get another messege..
[01:01] <Seveas> if it still gives errors, then there's something funky at the server
[01:01] <lightbright> Seveas: ah I get it, cause the cache may be causing the errors, I get it
[01:01] <mwe> nipplesrulz: it only affects interfaces marked as auto
[01:01] <lightbright> dooglus: makes sense, ty
[01:01] <nipplesrulz> huh
[01:01] <graft> Johnny0, what's your video card and such? what video drivers are you using?
[01:01] <lightbright> Seveas: anyway, after your command and after using the sources.list you gave, it still gives 3 errors
[01:01] <Set_> does Ubuntu 5.10 do something different than 4.10, because installation is taking forever on 5.10 compared to 4.10
[01:01] <dooglus> Gnagert: are you going to tell me what that other message is?
[01:02] <Johnny0> ATI MobilityRadeon X300
[01:02] <lightbright> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6928
[01:02] <gnomefreak> lightbright, look at the top and get rid of the cdrom repo the error you are getting is from that
[01:02] <conflikt> hmm i got no sound ?
[01:02] <Johnny0> xserver setup detected the card just fine
[01:02] <Gnagert> dooglus: trying to translate it..
[01:02] <mwe> Set_: where does it seem to be slow, exactly? mine comes up fast
[01:02] <dooglus> Gnagert: ok:)
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> Can I specify at shutdown -r which grub menu entry to use when it comes back up?  (Basically a grub savedefault for only one-time use.)
[01:02] <nipplesrulz> meh
[01:02] <mwe> tonyyarusso: no
[01:02] <nipplesrulz> is there a way to reconfigure this short of reinstalling?
[01:02] <conflikt> can someone help i lost my sound i messed with alsa-mixer didnt help
[01:02] <graft> hrmrmrm... not doing anything funky like running Composite extensions?
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Phooey.
[01:03] <Set_> "Installing packages". Installed 4.10 first, decided to get 5.10 and burned an iso with it. 5.10's install seems slower
[01:03] <Johnny0> graft: not sure what you are asking again :)
[01:03] <mwe> tonyyarusso: shutdown knows nothing about grub
[01:03] <Gnagert> dooglus: should have installed it in english instead :)
[01:03] <graft> Johnny0, so... probably not, then
[01:03] <lightbright> gnomefreak: my sourvces doesnt have any cdrom!  look at it here:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6929
[01:03] <Otaku> meep
[01:03] <lightbright> gnomefreak: see my sources list at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6929  and the errors I get at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6928
[01:04] <Seveas> lightbright, there's something funky at the server
[01:04] <Seveas> try using se.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:04] <lightbright> Seveas: funky?
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Could I pipe something, or otherwise accomplish the same thing?  It doesn't have to be in the shutdown command, for instance I wouldn't be opposed to something like 'grub, next time and next time only, use number 3 && shutdown -r now'
[01:04] <funkyHat> arrrghhHH!!! damn triggers!
[01:04] <lightbright> Seveas: ok or should I try later using the same?
[01:04] <Gnagert> dooglus: "Could'nt take status on the sourcepackagelist"
[01:05] <graft> Johnny0, so what happens if you start off in monitor mode from the console and then from there fire up the login manager and log in? it dies? kicks you back to the laptop screen?
[01:05] <lightbright> gnomefreak: can you see there is no cdrom
[01:05] <dooglus> Gnagert: when you ran what?
[01:05] <mwe> tonyyarusso: not that I know of
[01:05] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Okay.
[01:05] <Johnny0> Nope - works just fine if I "startx" from CLI
[01:05] <Set_> installed now :)
[01:05] <Johnny0> weird eh ? :)
[01:05] <Gnagert> dooglus: apt-cache show ftpd
[01:05] <gnomefreak> lightbright, i use those and no issues im sure Seveas uses them too he has no issues
[01:05] <LinuxMonk> how do I get sshd installed, for some reason its not installed on my ubuntu
[01:05] <mwe> tonyyarusso: go over the grub docs though, if you really want to investigate
[01:06] <dooglus> Gnagert: did you "sudo apt-get update"?
[01:06] <gnomefreak> binary-i386 is the error you get with the cdrom repo
[01:06] <graft> but if you start gdm while you're using the monitor...?
[01:06] <Gnagert> dooglus: no
[01:06] <mwe> LinuxMonk: sudo apt-get install ssh
[01:06] <dooglus> Gnagert: you should
[01:06] <Johnny0> craps out graft
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Will do.
[01:06] <graft> ah, as soon as you start gdm it craps out?
[01:06] <Johnny0> yes
[01:06] <graft> or only after you log in to gnome
[01:06] <mwe> LinuxMonk: it wasn't installed here either untill I did that
[01:06] <Johnny0> after I log into gnome regularly - if I come up to a CLI - and then "startx" it works fine
[01:06] <vincenz> tonyyarusso: crap, exactly same problem as before while installing a base package
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> vincenz, Could your CD be bad?
[01:07] <vincenz> maybe...
[01:07] <vincenz> I burned an iso
[01:07] <vincenz> one would think that's good
[01:07] <vincenz> blegh
[01:07] <lightbright> gnomefreak: Seveas just said the servers are funky
[01:07] <mwe> vincenz: you wouldn't be the first to burn a bad cd
[01:08] <lightbright> gnomefreak: Seveas lightbright, there's something funky at the server
[01:08] <mwe> vincenz: I believe you can md5sum it to check
[01:08] <Gnagert> dooglus: now there is a couple of lines when I write [pt-cache show ftpd9
[01:08] <lightbright> gnomefreak: can you do a sudo apt-get update right now and tell me if you get errors?
[01:08] <graft> Johnny0: erm, wait, time out... so by "log in to gnome" i mean, after gdm starts up and has the nice pretty login screen you type your password in there... n ot logging into a text console
[01:08] <vincenz> I'm gonna burn it with my newer laptop and windows
[01:08] <dooglus> Gnagert: just a couple?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> lightbright, he said if that doesnt fix it there is something funky but im betting most of the people in here are using the same repos as those
[01:08] <Johnny0> yeah - the nice prretty screen that I login to - after that - it craps out
[01:09] <gnomefreak> lightbright, no i cant im doing updates
[01:09] <Gnagert> dooglus: 16
[01:09] <dooglus> Gnagert: I'd expect around 21 of them
[01:09] <Johnny0> if I come into a CLI - then "startx" without the pretty lil screen - it's fine
[01:09] <dooglus> Gnagert: right.
[01:09] <dooglus> so you can "sudo apt-get install ftpd" now
[01:09] <mwe> vincenz: burn at slow speed
[01:09] <Johnny0> graft: when I do that though - the monitor switch function keys still don't work - but Im able to use my big pretty new monitor
[01:09] <graft> okay... cool... so can you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[01:10] <Gnagert> dooglus: yes.. thanks..
[01:10] <lightbright> gnomefreak: well how else can you explain it if im using the EXACT same sources.list as you?
[01:10] <Set_> !dns
[01:10] <ubotu> Set_: I don't know
[01:10] <dooglus> Gnagert: now you've got the fun of working out how to set it up
[01:10] <Set_> simple question Ubuntu 5.10... how do I set static DNS?
[01:10] <graft> !pastebin
[01:11] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:11] <gnomefreak> dooglus, are you using archive ubuntu repos without a country code?
[01:11] <mwe> Set_: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:11] <lightbright> gnomefreak: can you paste your sources.list that you use for Breezy pls
[01:11] <dooglus> gnomefreak: yes
[01:11] <mwe> Set_: read "man interfaces"
[01:11] <Johnny0> Ok
[01:11] <Johnny0> standby
[01:11] <Gnagert> dooglus: now i'm going to bed, and tomorrow I will ask someone how to install GUI =)
[01:11] <gnomefreak> dooglus, can you run apt-get update please let me know if you get a binary-i386
[01:11] <dooglus> gnomefreak: most of the country-code archives all resolve to the same server in london anyway, don't they?
[01:11] <gnomefreak> error
[01:12] <gnomefreak> lightbright, my sources list for breezy is at www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/linux.html
[01:12] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6930
[01:12] <allan__> whats a good program for playing mp3s/
[01:12] <graft> allan__: mplayer!
[01:12] <cello_rasp> allan__: totem. supports samba!
[01:13] <graft> err... or amarok
[01:13] <graft> depends if you want pretty or powerful, i guess
[01:13] <mjr> I don't get why people use things like mplayer/xine/totem for playing audio
[01:13] <gnomefreak> lightbright, i find it funny your the only one with issues
[01:13] <Johnny0> graft: here ya go http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6931
[01:13] <gnomefreak> ty dooglus
[01:13] <graft> mjr, because they play frigging everything?
[01:13] <mjr> isn't some audio player, like rhythmbox, a more natural choice
[01:14] <graft> Johnny0: use the radeon driver instead of the 'ati' driver
[01:14] <cello_rasp> mjr: some people only want one program for everything. and lots of people cant be bothered with a library manager
[01:14] <dooglus> mjr: if all you want to do is play it, why not use mplayer?
[01:14] <graft> that should help you out a bunch
[01:14] <dooglus> who needs a gui really - I don't want to skip backwards and forwards, just play it
[01:14] <Set_> Request for a suggestion on a easy to setup ftp server with sftp capatibilities
[01:14] <Johnny0> What's that gotta do with the function keys not working properly graft?
[01:14] <navarone> I use xmms to play and r-box to set up playlists to burn
[01:14] <graft> also comment out your HorizSync and VertRefresh and Modeline lines
[01:14] <mwe> gmplayer aint bad either
[01:15] <graft> Johnny0: not much, but it'll maybe stop it from crapping out
[01:15] <mjr> Set_, suggestion: Just use the sftp server available with the openssh-server, and skip normal ftp altogether
[01:15] <Johnny0> Ok - worth a shot
[01:15] <Johnny0> be back in a few
[01:15] <navarone> If you use r-box playlists to burn cds you always have record of what you have burnt for people and no repeats...<s>
[01:15] <Set_> okay. this is a *real* n00b question. where is the terminal in 5.10 ?
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Set_, applications>accesories>terminal
[01:16] <jar> hello
[01:16] <navarone> Set Applications/Accessories
[01:16] <jar> new here
[01:16] <Set_> oh. it was in system tools in 4.10 :p
[01:16] <Set_> thx
[01:16] <navarone> ^5 gnomefreak ...you da gnome
[01:16] <gnomefreak> ^5 navarone
[01:17] <gnomefreak> Set_, yes it was
[01:17] <gnomefreak> they moved it
[01:17] <navarone> gnomefreak, ...lets try to ge t a wave goin'...<s>
[01:17] <graft> damn bureaucrats!
[01:17] <gnomefreak> root terminal is now in system tools
[01:17] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:17] <Set_> !ssh
[01:17] <ubotu> I guess ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[01:17] <gnomefreak> lightbright, the lower half of that list will give you errors only use the upper part
[01:17] <graft> Set_: if you're running a normal ssh server, it can do SFTP usually
[01:18] <j3di> i just installed apache
[01:18] <j3di> but it only let me install apache2.. not apache1.3..
[01:18] <Set_> graft, I was looking for a server with both sftp and normal, anonymous ftp traffic (that allows anonymous users to upload to a upload folder)
[01:18] <j3di> the config files are way confusing..
[01:18] <cello_rasp> my ipod shuffle, (using solely as a usb drive) will not eject: "eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument". other usb drives do so with no problem. furthermore the shuffle is not remounted when inserted again, except after reboot
[01:18] <mwe> j3di: how so
[01:18] <graft> Set_: oh... well, then you actually do want an ftp server
[01:19] <graft> but i'd be wary
[01:19] <mjr> Set_, you can set up an "anonymous" sftp account by setting the shell of that to /usr/lib/sftp-server
[01:19] <j3di> i cant figure out where to change the document root
[01:19] <mwe> j3di: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[01:19] <mjr> but of course, if you want regular ftp users to be able to connect, that doesn't help
[01:19] <theconartist> why might my sound still play though my speakers when my earphones are plugged in... it is supposed to only do 1 at a time on this
[01:19] <Set_> mjr, that was the idea
[01:19] <graft> Set_: you're aware of the security risks, right?
[01:19] <Set_> I just want a ftp server that have the possibility for sftp and is easy to setup
[01:19] <Set_> graft, yep
[01:19] <j3di> or make a directory change that lets it list contents where there is no index.html
[01:20] <theconartist> does anyone have an idea?
[01:20] <mjr> regular ftp is just a pain in the arse and should be shot :)
[01:20] <Set_> mjr, I still want it :)
[01:20] <j3di> i belive openssh-server will give you sftp access
[01:20] <graft> Set_, take your pick of a dozen different ftp servers in the repos
[01:20] <navarone> theconartist, do you have both headphones and speakers plugged into the soundcard or the headphones plugged into the speakers jack?
[01:20] <graft> but normal ftp sucks
[01:20] <mwe> j3di: err the DocumentRoot is in the sites in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/*
[01:20] <Set_> okay... let me rephrase
[01:21] <fraggsta> anyone got any idea how to get xine on PowerPC to support videos with an MP3 audio track (ie: pretty much all)
[01:21] <Set_> I'd like suggestions on a normal ftp server that will kill my cat and burn my car, but still is easy setup. I know normal ftp stinks, but I'd like it anyway. is there anyone out there, that is crazy like me, and actually knows of one that's easy to setup? :)
[01:22] <mwe> fraggsta: I guess you need the mp3 codec. I have no idea where to get it for ppc though
[01:22] <Set_> !ftp
[01:22] <ubotu> Good FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP server: proftpd
[01:22] <Seveas> !maccodecs
[01:22] <ubotu> it has been said that maccodecs is http://www1.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/codecs.html
[01:22] <amgad> guys, how can i install ubuntu without having a cdrom drive
[01:22] <Seveas> not
[01:23] <purpleheart_USMC> what is a good program to view dvd's?
[01:23] <Seveas> well, it's very hard but not impossible
[01:23] <Seveas> you need to know a lot about the system though
[01:23] <Seveas> purpleheart_USMC, totem is OK
[01:23] <bimberi> amgad: various options described here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[01:23] <amgad> i already booted the installation, but i cant mount the iso because there is no loop module available on the installatiom shell
[01:23] <graft> purpleheart_USMC: mplayer!
[01:24] <purpleheart_USMC> ty
[01:24] <gnomefreak> !iso
[01:24] <ubotu> [iso]  download Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ and for help burning the CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[01:24] <empirebit> holappppppppppppppppp
[01:24] <gnomefreak> :(
[01:24] <amgad> bimberi?
[01:24] <mwe> empirebit: don't be lame
[01:25] <bimberi> amgad: er, under "Advanced Installation Methods"
[01:25] <Set_> !proftpd
[01:25] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Set_
[01:25] <sorush20> why don't dapper have backports again?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> Set_, what are you looking for?
[01:25] <amgad> InstallationFromLinuxHardDisk
[01:25] <amgad> This page does not exist yet.
[01:25] <amgad> !!!!!
[01:25] <ubotu> No idea, amgad
[01:25] <graft> gnomefreak: he's looking for a simple ftp server
[01:25] <gnomefreak> sorush20, backports in dapper or in breezy?
[01:26] <mwe> !info proftpd
[01:26] <ubotu> proftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 1044 kB
[01:26] <graft> proftpd doesn't seem to qualify as simple
[01:26] <amgad> oh brother, i just dont understand this loop module thing, can i create a new loop device so i can mount the iso??
[01:26] <sorush20> in dapper
[01:26] <gnomefreak> sorush20, backports are used in a release to get some packages from the latest release
[01:26] <sorush20> gnomefreak: dapper
[01:26] <Set_> proftpd was easy enough
[01:27] <mwe> Set_: or pure-ftpd maybe
[01:27] <gnomefreak> after they start on the next release after dapper like this summer maybe fall you will have backports in dapper
[01:27] <Set_> I used pure-ftpd in SUSE. couldn't figure out howto make /home/ftp root directory... lol
[01:27] <j3di> why does it seem like apache doesnt work
[01:27] <j3di> ...
[01:27] <Set_> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79588 this seem to make proftpd easy
[01:27] <mwe> j3di: how so?
[01:27] <sorush20> gnomefreak: so if i have dapper repositories main universe multiverse restricted then I don't need a backport right..?
[01:27] <DeskDevil> hi are there any german channels?
[01:27] <mwe> Set_: there's the gproftpd
[01:28] <j3di> i try to hit the box from another comp via browser and get the finger..
[01:28] <gnomefreak> sorush20, dont need you mean cant have
[01:28] <j3di> almost like apache aint runnin
[01:28] <sorush20> gnomefreak: yes I meant can't have. that is it
[01:28] <gnomefreak> sorush20, the only repos that work in dapper are main uni and multiverse
[01:28] <AdTheRat> I'm having a fairly major problem with php5 when I try to access any php file, nothing is loaded. Yet html is fine.
[01:28] <graft> j3di: can you get any services at all?
[01:28] <sorush20> gnomefreak: what about restricted..
[01:29] <gnomefreak> no backports no extras no OOo
[01:29] <j3di> yeha.. ssh , ftp, appletalk :)
[01:29] <gnomefreak> sorush20, yes just the reg repos
[01:29] <j3di> but no dice on http
[01:29] <graft> and apache is running
[01:29] <sorush20> is ubuntu running money collection ?
[01:29] <graft> sorush20: ps -ef | grep money_collection
[01:30] <mwe> j3di: it's not a firewall issue or your isp messing?
[01:30] <j3di> no firewall issue
[01:30] <j3di> i cant hit it via local lan
[01:30] <amgad> guys, nobody can help??????????
[01:30] <gnomefreak> sorush20, you may have issues getting it to run in dapper
[01:30] <graft> j3di: can yo uhit it from the same box?
[01:30] <mwe> j3di: not even localhost?
[01:30] <Johnny0> LMAO
[01:30] <Johnny0> graft: there is only the ATI drivers for this card
[01:31] <graft> what? no way
[01:31] <j3di> its command line..
[01:31] <graft> ati radeon X300?
[01:31] <Johnny0> yeah way graft
[01:31] <mwe> j3di: yes w3m localhost
[01:31] <graft> that's what i'm running and i'm using the radeon driver
[01:31] <Johnny0> do I need to enter this in manually ?
[01:31] <j3di> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:31] <mwe> j3di: _is_ apache indeed started?
[01:31] <j3di> w3m: Can't load <IP_ADDRESS>.
[01:31] <sorush20> I'm trying to build the latest version of kopete but i keep getting the message that I need to have usermake rather than automake. If I install usermake instead of automake will all other programs use that?
[01:31] <graft> Johnny0: yeah, edit your xorg.conf
[01:32] <j3di> how can i check and see if its started
[01:32] <Johnny0> k - paste me the exact text I need
[01:32] <mwe> j3di: sudo netstat -ntlp and confirm it's running
[01:32] <graft> um
[01:32] <lsuactiafner> what files are the subtitle files on a dvd?
[01:32] <graft> too much work... just find the line that says Driver    "ati"
[01:32] <Johnny0> k - I am there
[01:33] <lightbright> gnomefreak: www.freewebs.com/joeboxernc/linux.html  <-- NOT Found
[01:33] <gnomefreak> hold on
[01:33] <gnomefreak> it might be htm
[01:33] <graft> change "ati" to "radeon"
[01:33] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok
[01:33] <felipe_> Hello, anyone uses ruby around here? I need a hand installing it...
[01:33] <j3di> hmm i dont see it
[01:33] <gnomefreak> ill paste the sources list on pastebin
[01:33] <mwe> j3di: then start it
[01:33] <j3di> cant i make it auto run at startup?
[01:33] <mwe> j3di: sudo /etc/init.d/apache start
[01:33] <j3di> how do i start it?
[01:33] <mwe> ^^^^
[01:34] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok and Ill copy and paste your and then do apt-get update
[01:34] <fraggsta> another point, mplayer doesn't seem to be packaged for PowerPC other than at marillat
[01:34] <mwe> j3di: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start rather
[01:34] <fraggsta> and package dependencies won't let me install it from there
[01:34] <sorush20> how do I tell what version of of a program a relaease has just from its name like for example the kopete pacakge in dapper here http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kopete&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[01:35] <graft> sorush20: apt-cache show kopete will tell you
[01:35] <regisgs> hello
[01:35] <graft> or you can install a program called 'apt-show-versions'
[01:36] <j3di> no dice
[01:36] <j3di> c
[01:36] <sorush20> graft: I was talking about dapper packagees.
[01:36] <j3di> no dice
[01:36] <theine> sorush20, "apt-cache policy kopete" is also quite handy
[01:36] <gnomefreak> lightbright, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6933
[01:36] <graft> sorush20: so was i!
[01:36] <mwe> j3di: how so?
[01:37] <j3di> i still cant see it
[01:37] <gnomefreak> lightbright, make me happy make sure ther eis no cdrom repo please
[01:37] <mwe> j3di: can't you start it?
[01:37] <j3di> and its still not in netstat
[01:37] <mwe> j3di: did it give an error when you tried starting it?
[01:37] <j3di> no error
[01:37] <graft> annoyingly, apache will do that
[01:37] <j3di> it just hopped to the next line
[01:37] <sorush20> graft: I haven't upgraded to dapper yet so I don't have apt updated to the dapper repositories will it still work?
[01:37] <graft> just die with no error
[01:37] <lightbright> gnomefreak: what?  im going to paste exactly what you got. so why worry about cdrom repo?
[01:37] <mwe> j3di: check the logs
[01:37] <graft> sorush20: ah... in that case... um
[01:37] <graft> i don't know, actually
[01:37] <j3di> apache 1.3 never gave me hell
[01:38] <gnomefreak> lightbright, people miss it becase they think its a comment
[01:38] <lightbright> gnomefreak: do you have any cdrom reops ion that?
[01:38] <theine> sorush20, don't you actually get all the information you're asking for from packages.ubuntu.com
[01:38] <graft> j3di: so why are you leaving it?
[01:38] <mark_> how do i stop terminal from being the automatic browser as oposed to let say firefox
[01:38] <j3di> fuck. where are the error logs
[01:38] <lightbright> gnomefreak: where in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6933 is there a cdrom repo?
[01:38] <gnomefreak> nope not a 1 but as i said people miss the cd repo because they thinks its a comment
[01:38] <mark_> it seems since i installed opera .... it had defaulted to terminal instead
[01:38] <Seveas> j3di, /var/log :)
[01:39] <j3di> when i went to install apache.. the only option aptitude had was apache2
[01:39] <graft> j3di: /var/log/apache*/error.log, usu
[01:39] <gnomefreak> lightbright, just look in your list not in pastebin for it
[01:39] <lightbright> gnomefreak: if I copy and paste yours exactly as is, then type sudo apt-get update, I shouldnt get any errors, right? :P
[01:39] <graft> erm... ubuntu def. has apache 1.3
[01:39] <gnomefreak> lightbright, i dont get any
[01:39] <mark_> i tried to reset it in preferred devices but it doesn't seem to change anyting
[01:39] <lightbright> gnomefreak: my list?  i deleted my old sources.list and pasted yours!
[01:39] <Seveas> graft, no
[01:39] <Seveas> apache is unsupported
[01:39] <Seveas> apache2 is supported
[01:39] <graft> i'm running it right now...
[01:39] <purpleheart_USMC> why can't i get totem to play dvd's?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> lightbright, look the binary error you are getting is from cd rom repo if you beleve it or not that i know for a fact
[01:39] <garry> mark_, System/Preferrred applications.
[01:39] <mjr> !dvd
[01:40] <mark_> did it garry
[01:40] <j3di> error.log is empty
[01:40] <mark_> it changed nothing
[01:40] <gnomefreak> if you dont wanna beleive me thats fine
[01:40] <graft> it's in universe, maybe
[01:40] <garry> mark_ :)
[01:40] <mjr> !tell purpleheart_USMC about dvd
[01:40] <mark_> i used gnomefreak 's and it worked for me
[01:40] <j3di> should i downgrade?
[01:40] <theine> mark_, what do you actually mean by `automatic browser'? A terminal is not a browser...
[01:40] <mark_> well
[01:40] <CosmoDad> since the last kernel upgrade, my laptop won't reconfigure my network after returning from suspend-to-ram although I still have ifplugd configured in /etc/default/acpi-support. Any ideas?
[01:40] <mark_> if i am to right click a link
[01:40] <gnomefreak> mark_, i test mine a few times a day they will always work :)
[01:41] <Miyomei> Is there a way to transfer files to my MP3 player from Linux?
[01:41] <sorush20> anyone here under the age of 10?
[01:41] <Hendikins|Work> Highly unlikely
[01:41] <mark_> and click open in browser
[01:41] <gnomefreak> im 6 :( lol
[01:41] <theine> mark_, then a terminal opens??
[01:41] <mark_> it opens it in terminal
[01:41] <sorush20> Miyomei: what  mp3 player do you have?
[01:41] <graft> well, if apache2 is supported and 1.3 is not, then you might run into trouble later installing adjuncts
[01:41] <mark_> yea
[01:41] <timfrost> gnomefreak, has lightbright done 'sudo apt-get update' since pasting the sources.list?
[01:41] <lightbright> gnomefreak: this is what I get using YOUR sources.list.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6934
[01:41] <Miyomei> sorush20, Creative Zen Touch.
[01:41] <lightbright> timfrost: yes
[01:41] <theine> mark_, the webpage opens in a terminal?
[01:41] <mark_> yea
[01:41] <mark_> lol
[01:41] <sorush20> !creative
[01:41] <ubotu> sorush20: Wish i knew
[01:41] <illicit> I'm 7.5 and pi/3rds
[01:41] <mark_> no graphics
[01:41] <mark_> but its all there
[01:42] <mark_> kinda like surfing with a palm pilot
[01:42] <Miyomei> !creative ?
[01:42] <gnomefreak> lightbright, last time get the damn cd rom repo out of your list now
[01:42] <mark_> lol
[01:42] <ubotu> Miyomei: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:42] <lightbright> Seveas: I am soooo confused, any ideas?  Why when I use gnomefreak  and your sources.list I get these errors at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6934 ?  PLEASE for my health, explain :)
[01:42] <j3di> i could give a #$%#$ is 1.3 isn't supported so long as it worked.. hehehehe
[01:42] <gnomefreak> lightbright, your fighting with me dont
[01:42] <gnomefreak> just do it
[01:42] <lightbright> gnomefreak: WHAT cd rom repo!  I pasted your sourceslist
[01:42] <graft> well, j3di then downgrade
[01:42] <gnomefreak> lightbright, open you sources.list now
[01:42] <lightbright> gnomefreak: remove WHAT cdrom repo?  i deleted my sources.list and replaced it totally with yours!!
[01:42] <lightbright> gnomefreak: its open
[01:43] <Miyomei> ubotu: Eh?
[01:43] <theine> mark_, very strange behaviour...
[01:43] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  listen to me this is the last time you will be helped by me
[01:43] <ubotu> Miyomei: Are you on ritalin?
[01:43] <Miyomei> Bot. -_-
[01:43] <mark_> very
[01:43] <gnomefreak> now at the very very top of it do you see anything that says 5.10
[01:43] <gerald> Hello
[01:43] <graft> Miyomei: does your mp3 player come with special software or what-not?
[01:44] <Miyomei> Yes, unfortunately.
[01:44] <gerald> Madel malunhao requesting
[01:44] <TuxOtaku> heellpp! GRUB won't start!
[01:44] <lightbright> gnomefreak:  NO!  there is no 5.10 that appears anywhere in it!  in fact the verry top says: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[01:44] <gerald> Buang ka!
[01:44] <graft> did you try just mounting it as a USB drive and copying mp3s to it?
[01:44] <graft> woohoo! batman!
[01:44] <Madz> animal ka!!!!!!
[01:44] <mark_> i can always copy and paste the url in my browser
[01:44] <Miyomei> I have no clue how to get USB devices to work.
[01:44] <batman> hello does anyone know where i can get libdvdcss2?
[01:44] <lightbright> gnomefreak: why are you so nasty?  im trying to tell you there is NO 5.10 or cd repo!  my sources, list was deleted and totally replaced 100% with yours
[01:44] <graft> nana nana nana nana nana nana na! batman!
[01:44] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  now look through the list for anything that says 5.10 (or take the cd out of the drive
[01:44] <mark_> it just seems weird that it should open in terminal
[01:44] <Miyomei> This is only my second day of using Linux. ;p
[01:44] <garry> tell! TuxOtaku about grub
[01:45] <NCLife> is there a good documentation about permissions around? the one on the wiki didnt help me and im very confused with them
[01:45] <lightbright> gnomefreak: I dont have any CD in the drive and the sources.list does NOT have anything that says 5.10
[01:45] <graft> oh... well crap... getting USB devices to work sucks
[01:45] <gnomefreak> lightbright, mine works fine or i wouldnt be having updates
[01:45] <sorush20> Miyomei: install gnomad see if it will work.
[01:45] <TuxOtaku> !tell TuxOtaku about grub
[01:45] <gnomefreak> lightbright, open synaptic after you close that
[01:45] <garry> :)
[01:45] <sorush20> Miyomei: do not give up try to search for creative zen in the ubuntuforums.com you'll find a way..
[01:45] <batman> anyone know of the new lib i need for dvd playback?
[01:46] <sorush20> Miyomei: you do not' want to go back to the world of virus filled and spyware systems..
[01:46] <lightbright> gnomefreak: i have tried to tell you very nicely that 5.10 does not even appear once
[01:46] <Miyomei> sorush20, It seems Gnomad2 supports my player.
[01:46] <Miyomei> Thanks graft and sorush20.
[01:46] <DayTurnsNight> batman, how's robin ?
[01:46] <lightbright> gnomefreak: it keeps saying: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[01:46] <sorush20> batman: libdvdcss, and other files .. there is big as comprehensive how to on the wiki restricted
[01:46] <garry> Ye can see it by doing System/About Ubuntu
[01:46] <TuxOtaku> stupid grub...i wanted to install a new splashscreen, and i was told to modify the menu.lst file...now grub hangs indefinately...thank god for liveCDs
[01:46] <theine> lightbright, 5.10 will appear when you look at the repositories from within synaptic
[01:46] <gnomefreak> lightbright, look open synaptic in synaptic click on tools or edit or something and you will see repositories open it and tell me what you see
[01:46] <lightbright> gnomefreak: and Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:47] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok
[01:47] <lightbright> hang on
[01:47] <sorush20> Miyomei: I didn't really know my self but just a quick serach revealed the name.
[01:47] <gnomefreak> lightbright, binary-i386 is the cd
[01:47] <j3di> ok so heres a question.. how do you downgrade?
[01:47] <batman> sorush20, where can i fidn that at?
[01:47] <gnomefreak> thats the only thing that is binary that the repos get
[01:47] <theine> gnomefreak, from the error he posted, it doesn't appear to be a problem eith his sources.list...
[01:47] <eidolon> hey folks - this is my first time working with ubuntu.  i just installed dapper (flight-2), looks okay, but i just did an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, and the upgrade isshowing me 401 upgraded, need to get 248meg of archives, including what looks like the enxteir xorg server.  does this sound right?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> theine, what are you thinking?
[01:48] <graft> eidolon: yeah, sounds right
[01:48] <sorush20> batman:  !libdvdcss
[01:48] <eidolon> okay.
[01:48] <theine> gnomefreak, maybe a server side error
[01:48] <sorush20> !libdvdcss
[01:48] <ubotu> libdvdcss is, like, totally, DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[01:48] <batman> !libdvdcss
[01:48] <gnomefreak> to me it looks like its trying to read the cdrom for universe
[01:48] <sorush20> batman: did you see
[01:48] <NCLife> whenever i copy something from a cd to my disk i only get rx permissions, and no w.
[01:48] <gnomefreak> theine, they are my repos
[01:48] <AdTheRat> Hmm..
[01:48] <gnomefreak> mine work fine
[01:48] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok synaptic is open!  and I opened the repositories
[01:48] <lightbright> gnomefreak: now what?
[01:48] <sorush20> any one here gay
[01:48] <sorush20> ?
[01:48] <gnomefreak> lightbright, what is the first thing you see
[01:49] <theine> gnomefreak, I don't think so as it fails to fetch "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz"
[01:49] <theine> gnomefreak, which should exist really
[01:49] <lightbright> gnomefreak: Breezy Badger (binary)
[01:49] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:49] <lightbright> gnomefreak: now what?
[01:49] <graft> that file is definitely there
[01:49] <graft> i can browse to it...
[01:49] <garry> NCLife tried right-click and changing permissions?
[01:49] <gnomefreak> lightbright, is there a check near it?
[01:50] <theine> lightbright, since when are you getting these errors?
[01:50] <lightbright> gnomefreak: a check?  as in tick?
[01:50] <purpleheart_USMC> I have libdvdcss, but still, no dvd playback with totem...
[01:50] <gnomefreak> yes lightbright
[01:50] <HCl> i use enlightenment as my window manager, how can i add extra programs to be started when my enlightenment session starts..?
[01:50] <lightbright> theine: after 5months using Ubuntu my FIRST day ever getting these errors
[01:50] <NCLife> garry, yeah.. but now everytime i login to my user account i get a warning message about having wrong permissions on my home folder
[01:50] <cubikdice> whats the name of the package for installing apache with php together...if any
[01:50] <lightbright> gnomefreak: there is no tick on any of the 12 that appear
[01:50] <theine> lightbright, since when in minutes?
[01:50] <lightbright> theine: since 3 hours ago
[01:50] <doskey-07> .co.id
[01:51] <gnomefreak> are the boxes there?
[01:51] <vincenz> yeah it was a corruped cd, base package installation is much faster now
[01:51] <lightbright> gnomefreak: what boxes?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:51] <lightbright> gnomefreak: I dont see any boxes!
[01:51] <theine> lightbright, please try this: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[01:51] <lightbright> gnomefreak: why are you laughing?
[01:51] <garry> NCLife Strange, its like you changed the permissions on the entire folder.
[01:52] <lightbright> theine: yea it downloads
[01:52] <gnomefreak> lightbright, do you see settings?
[01:52] <sorush20> purpleheart_USMC: I think you have to follow the instructions on this page anyone who wants to setup a multimedia system... a dvd palyback doesn't have its own packages it works by using bits and pieces of other technologies.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=restricted&titlesearch=Titles
[01:52] <theine> lightbright, hmm, ok, try "apt-get update" again...
[01:52] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yes settings at bottom
[01:52] <Miyomei> Okay, noob question. I unpacked the .tar.gz archive for Gnomad2. How do I actually install it?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> ok click that
[01:52] <NCLife> garry, :S if i remember well, i just selected all the docs and gave them rwx permission
[01:52] <gnomefreak> lightbright, than click show all or something like that
[01:52] <j3di> how do i downgrade a package?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> show enabled or show  something
[01:53] <sorush20> Miyomei: since there is no .exe files you have to use three simple little words..
[01:53] <sorush20> I
[01:53] <graft> Miyomei: it's in the ubuntu repos, don't bother with that shit
[01:53] <sorush20> LOve
[01:53] <sorush20> You
[01:53] <lightbright> gnomefreak: there is no show all option there
[01:53] <batman> sorush20, the repositories on those sites i get a 404
[01:53] <gnomefreak> lightbright, are there 3 boxes that are not ticked?
[01:53] <sorush20> graft: gnomad2 is not in repositores
[01:53] <batman> that site*
[01:53] <woodgrain> gnomefreak, does gnome have the hide/show desktop functionality that os X has?
[01:53] <graft> sorush20: it is in dapper...
[01:54] <sorush20> batman: did you read the instructions
[01:54] <lightbright> gnomefreak: no
[01:54] <batman> sorush20, yes
[01:54] <gnomefreak> woodgrain, i dont use OS x
[01:54] <lightbright> gnomefreak: I dont see any tick on any of the 12
[01:54] <sorush20> graft: Miyomei is not using dapper he is a noob
[01:54] <graft> what, noobs can't use dapper?
[01:54] <graft> mrng
[01:54] <sorush20> batman: did you add the pgp keys?
[01:54] <theine> lightbright, If you ask me, I'd say everything's fine on your side and the errors you're getting are actually caused on the server side...
[01:54] <Miyomei> It's only my second day with Linux/Ubuntu.
[01:54] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  are you in the settings place still?
[01:54] <Miyomei> I'm quite the noob.
[01:55] <lightbright> theine: this is the errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6935
[01:55] <woodgrain> gnomefreak, you know what I mean though.  I have a little show-dsktop icon in lower left.  Is there one that does the opposite -- bring back what was on the desktop?
[01:55] <lightbright> theine: so I should do what?
[01:55] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yes
[01:55] <sorush20> Miyomei: you want to install from the source?
[01:55] <batman> sorush20, pgp keys?
[01:55] <woodgrain> gnomefreak, i don't use it either
[01:55] <gnomefreak> woodgrain, click it again
[01:55] <theine> lightbright, what country are you in?
[01:55] <graft> well, gnomad2 is in breezy/universe anyway
[01:55] <lightbright> gnomefreak: when I load synaptic it now says: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[01:55] <sorush20> batman: yes.. maybe Seveas should make them flash,
[01:55] <woodgrain> gnomefreak, man i am a dumb blonde.
[01:55] <Miyomei> Nope. I just found it in Synaptic. ;p
[01:55] <lightbright> theine: Australia
[01:55] <gnomefreak> lightbright, go into prefferences in the repos list
[01:55] <graft> see :P
[01:56] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok
[01:56] <garry> NCLife yes, that might do it. It might have changed more than the files you copied. Somehow, ye need to reverse that. Might create another account,  and compare, its a bother tho. Since it's a warning, it might not be so serious.
[01:56] <gnomefreak> do you now see 3 un ticked boxes?
[01:56] <sorush20> Miyomei: are you in kde?
[01:56] <lightbright> gnomefreak: there is no preferrences option!  only autherntican and settings
[01:56] <Miyomei> Gnome.
[01:56] <theine> lightbright, try to use another mirror, i.e. replace http://archive.ubuntu.com with http://au.archive.ubuntu.com in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:56] <gnomefreak> settings lightbright should bring up a lil box with 6 lines in it with boxes next to them
[01:57] <lightbright> theine: ill try that ok
[01:57] <sorush20> Miyomei: go to the directory that you extracted the files to then press F4, that will bring up a terminal for that directory
[01:57] <NCLife> garry, i have another problem too.. i recently made another user account and now when i mount my ipod owner is the new account, yesterday i tried changing it with sudo chown my_account_name /media/ipod and worked nice, today whoever it doesnt want to..
[01:57] <lightbright> gnomefreak: there is no preferrences option!  only authentication and settings
[01:57] <Miyomei> I already installed it from Synaptic. ;p
[01:57] <sorush20> Miyomei: just type ./configure
[01:57] <HCl> i use enlightenment as my window manager, how can i add extra programs to be started when my enlightenment session starts..?
[01:57] <Miyomei> But I'll keep that in mind for future items.
[01:57] <Korupt> anybody know how to get WEP working using wpa_supplicant?
[01:57] <Miyomei> Now, for some reason, I'm getting an error in the program.
[01:57] <gnomefreak> lightbright, in the settings option it should bring up a box in middle of screen with 6 settings in it
[01:57] <lightbright> gnomefreak: i open synaptic, then chose Settings/Repositries
[01:57] <Miyomei> "Could not open jukebox:
[01:57] <Miyomei> usb_set_configuration: Operation not permitted"
[01:58] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yes, 6 boxes
[01:58] <gnomefreak> good do they all have ticks in them?
[01:58] <graft> Miyomei: could always run as root
[01:58] <lightbright> gnomefreak: not all of them no
[01:58] <garry> I don't know about ipod playing, but does the ipod have a mount point like would be in fstab?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> put ticks in all of them
[01:58] <lightbright> gnomefreak: only 3 of them
[01:58] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok
[01:59] <gnomefreak> lightbright, want all 6 ticked
[01:59] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok now all are ticked
[01:59] <lightbright> gnomefreak: and now?
[01:59] <Miyomei> Ah, that worked. Thanks graft.
[01:59] <gnomefreak> lightbright, take the tick out of the 5.10 repo at toip
[01:59] <gnomefreak> top*
[01:59] <theconartist> i have a problemo!!!
[02:00] <Toma-> theconartist: what is ito?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> theconartist, so do most people that come in here
[02:00] <batman> sorush20, any idea where else i could get a repository for the files?
[02:00] <lightbright> gnomefreak: untick the very first one?
[02:00] <Miyomei> Okay, next problem. ;p
[02:00] <gnomefreak> lightbright, what does the very first one say
[02:00] <Miyomei> Firefox in Ubuntu/Synaptic is version 1.0.7.
[02:00] <Miyomei> How do I update?
[02:00] <lightbright> gnomefreak: untick the Breexy Badger (source)?
[02:00] <graft> um
[02:00] <Miyomei> Firefox wont do it automatically like it did in Windows.
[02:00] <gnomefreak> the binary repo
[02:00] <bimberi> !ff1.5
[02:00] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:01] <gnomefreak> untick it
[02:01] <lightbright> gnomefreak: the very top says "Breezy Badger (source)
[02:01] <garry> NCLife whenever I have had issues whwer regular accounts could not mount something, I cured the issue with something like this in fstab /dev/sda1       /mnt/Sata1   ntfs ro,umask=0722,noauto  0       0 the part about umask=0722 made it mount for all users.
[02:01] <sorush20> batman: try form the terminal then that way you can see what is wrong with the repositories..
[02:01] <lightbright> gnomefreak: the very top says Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger (source)
[02:01] <sorush20> batman: type sudo apt-get update
[02:01] <gnomefreak> lightbright, does it say binary?
[02:01] <lightbright> gnomefreak: sorry i said the 2nd one
[02:01] <lightbright> gnomefreak: the very top 1 says Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger (binary)
[02:01] <gnomefreak> lightbright, does the first one say binary in it anywhere?
[02:01] <B_166-ER-X> i know how to add something to 'Session' if i want it at startup, but what if i need it to start after everything (asmn, by default, at startup start before the tray is openned then it cannot be iconified)  i saw there i an 'order' anyone knows how that works ?
[02:01] <batman> sorush20, i did both of the above
[02:02] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yes sorry the the very top 1 says Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger (binary)
[02:02] <gnomefreak> lightbright, do any of the other ones say 5.10 in them?
[02:02] <lightbright> gnomefreak: and the 2nd one says Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger (source)
[02:02] <gnomefreak> untick the first one and than re-tick it
[02:02] <sorush20> batman: try using this or jsut post all your souce to the paset bin .. you don know how to use the paste bin?
[02:02] <lightbright> gnomefreak: they ALL say 5.10 but the very last one doesnt, it says backports
[02:02] <batman> sorush20, says package is not available but referred to as another package
[02:02] <Set_> I'm planning to remotely administer this box. What do I need to prepare, so that the box will boot and I be able to login into gnome
[02:03] <NCLife> garry, so that will get the owner of /media/ipod to be both accounts?
[02:03] <lightbright> gnomefreak: Ok i unticked and ticked and now its downloading new data
[02:03] <gnomefreak> good
[02:04] <sorush20> batman: try to use these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6936
[02:04] <gnomefreak> let me know what it says
[02:04] <lightbright> gnomefreak: it stopped with an error: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[02:04] <crimsun> Set_: once Ubuntu is installed, you'll want to install openssh-server
[02:04] <batman> sorush20, http://pastebin.com/500155
[02:04] <gnomefreak> good
[02:04] <sorush20> !repositories
[02:04] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:04] <lightbright> gnomefreak: good? :P
[02:04] <gnomefreak> lightbright, this is a good thing :)
[02:04] <lightbright> gnomefreak: hmm ok :P
[02:04] <gnomefreak> lightbright, your not in us?
[02:04] <lightbright> gnomefreak: in Australia
[02:04] <butcherbird> Set_: if not over a lan take a look at freenx, otherwise I would just use ssh and x forwarding just my opinion
[02:04] <Set_> crimsun, done.
[02:05] <HCl> can anyone help me? i need a program to start when i start my enlightenment session.. how do i do that...?
[02:05] <gnomefreak> lightbright, the first repos you had was there a country code in them????
[02:05] <lightbright> gnomefreak: now what do I do?
[02:05] <Set_> it's all local. no ports are forwarded from my firewall to this box
[02:05] <gnomefreak> noiw he tells me hes in au :(
[02:05] <lightbright> gnomefreak: the first line in sources.list is: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[02:06] <batman> sorush20, i can get libdvdcss2 but do i need libdvdcss?
[02:06] <lightbright> gnomefreak: I told you before im in Australia
[02:06] <nipplesrulz> ive got /etc/network/interfaces configged same on the other machine as this one
[02:06] <nipplesrulz> but it refuses to pull up the internet somehow
[02:06] <lsuactiafner> wonder if its legal to sell 'windows 64bit' with 32bit code in it?
[02:06] <nipplesrulz> is there a way to reconfigure em from scratch? the file is the same on that one as this one and this one works fine.
[02:06] <lightbright> gnomefreak: remmber Seveas asked me as well
[02:06] <gnomefreak> make it look like //au.archive.ubuntu
[02:06] <lightbright> ok
[02:06] <gnomefreak> lightbright, no i wasnt here
[02:06] <nipplesrulz> is there a way to reconfigure this short of reinstalling?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> lightbright, put au in all of them
[02:06] <crimsun> batman: libdvdcss is a virtual package that libdvdcss2 provides.
[02:06] <Set_> I want something like vnc, as it's all local and I have no intentions to open the different ports. can anyone point me on how I can setup a vnc server that lets me connect to gdm?
[02:07] <lsuactiafner> also, how do i bypass the sony drm that throws errors to my dvdrom @ 16mb?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> hes half way around the world no wonder why mine didnt work :(
[02:07] <lightbright> gnomefreak: its now: deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[02:07] <batman> criumsun, i have libdvdcss2 installed but it won't play the dvd o.O
[02:07] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok brb
[02:07] <graft> gnomefreak: why should that matter?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> lightbright, do it to all of them
[02:07] <HCl> does anyone know how i can make a program start up automatically when i start my enlightenment session? :/
[02:08] <gnomefreak> graft, without hte country code in it it will direct you to the closest server
[02:08] <sorush20> batman: I thin what you need to install is easybreezy
[02:08] <vbhanu> Anyone here using nbsmtp?
[02:08] <Set_> !xdmcp
[02:08] <gnomefreak> if his closest server is done mine wont be
[02:08] <graft> gnomefreak: ah... didn't know that
[02:08] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Set_
[02:08] <sorush20> join the easybreezy channel and they have a script that addes all these multimedia stuff with out you haveing to do it manually.
[02:08] <vbhanu> What should be the format of the message on STDIN that should be given to nbsmtp to send the maik
[02:08] <graft> Set_: what's wrong with vncserver?
[02:08] <vbhanu> *mail?
[02:08] <B_166-ER-X> i installed unreal 2004, with a valid buyed serial, all went ok, and at the end of the install its saying : to play type 'ut2004'   but ..ut2004 is an unknown command :| someone could heko ?
[02:08] <lightbright> gnomefreak: done, now?
[02:08] <batman> sorush20, where can i find that i do sudo apt-get install and it can't find it
[02:08] <Set_> not installed I guess. my mistake. sorry
[02:09] <gnomefreak> save and run sudo apt-get update
[02:09] <woodgrain> why do I need fakeroot to run java?
[02:09] <sorush20> batman: sorry join #easyubuntu
[02:09] <gnomefreak> lightbright, im sorry it wasnt bring you to the same server as i am going to
[02:09] <lightbright> gnomefreak: Err http://au.security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release.gpg
[02:09] <sorush20> batman: what?
[02:09] <damasta> B_166-ER-X, run sudo find / -name ut2004 -print
[02:09] <lightbright>   Could not resolve 'au.security.ubuntu.com'
[02:09] <graft> woodgrain: huh? who told you you did?
[02:09] <batman> sorush20, join that what for?
[02:09] <gnomefreak> what else does it say light
[02:10] <woodgrain> graft, the ubuntu doc. site.
[02:10] <lightbright> gnomefreak: its finisging now, ill let you know in a tick
[02:10] <vincenz> This is odd
[02:10] <Set_> !vncserver
[02:10] <ubotu> Set_: I give up, what is it?
[02:10] <woodgrain> graft, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249
[02:10] <vincenz> ubunut never prompted me for a root password
[02:10] <lightbright> gnomefreak: im using modem :)
[02:10] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[02:10] <vincenz> what is my root password!!!
[02:10] <gnomefreak> dial up?
[02:10] <bimberi> woodgrain: you need it to install java
[02:11] <damasta> vincenz, you should run sudo passwd root
[02:11] <woodgrain> bimberi, I have it ... what does it do?
[02:11] <damasta> then set the password
[02:11] <gnomefreak> and i thought 7hr for updates were bad :(
[02:11] <graft> oh... i always installed java by hand...
[02:11] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yah :P
[02:11] <irvin> !tell vincenz about sudo
[02:11] <damasta> but try to avoid loggin in as root
[02:11] <massimo> i've just finished to install ubuntu 5.1 but if i insert dual layer dvd i can't see data, if i insert normal DVD it's work . someone could help me?
[02:11] <lightbright> vincenz: same as what you told it
[02:11] <Set_> I installed vncserver, but I get no option for it in Services Settings and Login Screen Setup says remote login is disabled(under general and greeter)
[02:11] <gnomefreak> downloading #1066 :)
[02:11] <woodgrain> c
[02:11] <NCLife> does someone knows why my ipod has another user as owner, or how can i change that so its owner is my main account?
[02:12] <sorush20> batman: don't get feedup after all you are batman..to here http://robotgeek.org/blog/easybreezy/ and then you can download the alpha verison then you will be able to install and add all the multimedia functionallities..
[02:12] <lightbright> gnomefreak: keeps saying: Could not resolve 'au.security.ubuntu.com'
[02:12] <gnomefreak> lightbright, and you put au in all of them?
[02:12] <bimberi> woodgrain: it simulates an environment so that a process thinks it's running as root ( i think :P )
[02:12] <lightbright> gnomefreak: Err http://au.security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages
[02:12] <lightbright>   Could not resolve 'au.security.ubuntu.com'
[02:12] <damasta> Set_, under system, settings, edit remote desktop
[02:12] <lightbright> gnomefreak: yes ALL of them
[02:12] <NCLife> ive got that problem since i made a new user account, now my ipod is owned by this new user account
[02:12] <B_166-ER-X> damasta  it list the dir where its installed, and the ut2004 command in it... but i already tried it... : it just loads the splash screen than hangs
[02:13] <woodgrain> bimberi, that's what I'm learning.
[02:13] <vincenz> thank you
[02:13] <gnomefreak> try taking au out and putting de in
[02:13] <vincenz> how about wifi... it has an ip but I can't surf
[02:13] <lightbright> gnomefreak: it seems Australians are not fully supported
[02:13] <gnomefreak> de is almost never down
[02:13] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok brb
[02:13] <gnomefreak> i will be right back also
[02:13] <timfrost> gnonmefreak, lightbright, you DO NOT put au. or de. for security.ubuntu.com
[02:13] <damasta> B_166-ER-X, when I had it installed, it would take awhile. If it takes too long, run killall ut2004 and maybe try again. You have a 3d card, right? And sound is working?
[02:14] <NCLife> ive tried with "sudo chown NCLife /media/ipod" and it does nothing
[02:14] <NCLife> any suggestions?
[02:14] <Linfanguin> I am using ubuntu and i have a treo 650. How do i transfer music files to it?
[02:14] <lightbright> timfrost: NOW you tell us :)
[02:14] <lightbright> timfrost: so I put au on ALL except for security?
[02:14] <Linfanguin> What software to use.
[02:15] <butcherbird> NCLife: maybe chown -r ?
[02:15] <Set_> damasta, thanks a lot! :))
[02:15] <damasta> Is it working?
[02:15] <Set_> yep
[02:15] <Miyomei> Hrm. How do I get Ubuntu to recognize and install my USB Gamepad?
[02:16] <Korupt> is there a way to bypass wpa_supplicant for certain APs?
[02:16] <timfrost> lightbright, yes, use au.archive.ubunu.com for breezy, breezy-backports and breezy-updates, but security.ubuntu.com for breezy-security
[02:16] <Set_> now, so I set login manager to automatically login my user, and have remote desktop configured to let me login, if I provide a password
[02:16] <bimberi>  all human ills, which, when the box was opened, escaped
[02:16] <bimberi>  and spread over the earth."
[02:16] <lightbright> timfrost: can you pls look at my sources.list now?
[02:16] <Set_> the service is not available out to my internet (no port forwarding from my firewall).
[02:16] <NCLife> butcherbird, ill try.. so i have to put "sudo chown -r NCLife /media/ipod?
[02:16] <damasta> Miyomei, what kind of gamepad is it?
[02:16] <Set_> that equals a secure remote desktop sollution for my home network?
[02:17] <lightbright> timfrost: can you pls look at my sources.list now and tell me if it look alright to you?
[02:17] <vincenz> How do I get wireless networking to work
[02:17] <timfrost> lightbright, OK  what pastebin?
[02:17] <lightbright> timfrost: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6937
[02:17] <batman> sorush20, does this install a bunch of packages or what?
[02:17] <butcherbird> NCLife: capital -R i believe
[02:17] <firefly2442> how can I rescue my ubuntu installation, I installed Ubuntu, then Windows, to dual boot, now only windows boots
[02:17] <damasta> Set_, yeah, if you're just using it within, you should be okay....unless you don't trust your family :)
[02:17] <lightbright> timfrost: any changes needed?
[02:17] <NCLife> butcherbird, okayz
[02:17] <sorush20> batman: yes.. unless you want to do it manullay
[02:18] <gnomefreak> buotu tell firefly2442 about grub
[02:18] <B_166-ER-X> damasta it took a while...but it loaded i have a 3dcard yep, but i just upgraded mu cpu ...i never even knew there was an intro movie.. lol
[02:18] <jean> hi
[02:18] <timfrost> lightbright, that looks OK
[02:18] <stzack> anyone here knows where I can find this package?
[02:18] <jean> is this like theme hospital? http://www.rune-soft.com/englisch/Projektseiten/airline/bild9.html
[02:18] <butcherbird> NCLife: bear in mind that there are two butcherbirds that use this channel a pretty one and a smart one.    Scroll up
[02:19] <lightbright> timfrost:  want me to tell you the results?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> why did i keep missing that L(
[02:20] <gnomefreak> :(
[02:20] <sorush20> batman: go an kiss robin
[02:20] <batman> sorush20, have you ever tried to run an access point behind your computer?
[02:20] <vincenz> damasta: that's for root
[02:20] <garry> NCLife Sorry, got called away. It does allow other users to mount and use devices. am glad you are getting help. I think you, know more about Linux than I do and those helping you probably know more as well. Good luck to ye.
[02:20] <damasta> vincenz, sorry, you're asking another question now
[02:20] <NCLife> butcherbird, its strange, the command sudo chown NCLife /media/ipod worked great yesterday, but now it would do nothing
[02:20] <lightbright> gnomefreak: missing what?
[02:20] <batman> wireless*
[02:20] <sorush20> sorush20: yes I have
[02:20] <gnomefreak> the security
[02:20] <timfrost> lightbright, yes, keep us updated
[02:20] <jean> henry_: bittornado has more sttings your might need later.
[02:20] <sorush20> firefly2442: are you ali
[02:20] <batman> sorush20, any luck?
[02:20] <lightbright> timfrost:  ok brb doing apt-get update now
[02:20] <firefly2442> sorush20, nope, must be thinking of someone else
[02:21] <NCLife> thanks garry for your help
[02:21] <butcherbird> NCLife: sorry out of ideas.. you can use it fine as root right?
[02:21] <garry> NCLife welcome.
[02:21] <vincenz> how do I enable dhcp instead of fixed ip
[02:21] <damasta> vincenz, you can't change it in system, administration, networking?
[02:21] <vincenz> ah
[02:21] <vincenz> I'll look
[02:21] <sorush20> firefly2442: it is you yo've gone an f*cked the system I setup right.. I told you that xp doesn't detect sata on its own..
[02:21] <garry> !tell vincenz about dhcp
[02:21] <graft> NCLife: quick rundown of your problem?
[02:21] <NCLife> butcherbird, i havent tried, how do i run it as root?
[02:21] <sorush20> batman: I'm running a wireless home network nothing fancy
[02:22] <gnomefreak> sorush20, winxp doesnt detect linux though
[02:22] <gumpish> dur... does ubuntu have net install isos? (<200MB)
[02:22] <gnomefreak> its bootlader doesnt atleast
[02:22] <gnomefreak> gumpish, yes
[02:22] <Toma-> gumpish: iirc, yeh
[02:22] <batman> sorush20, i meant like having 2 nics where as one getting the net and the other nic forwarding it to the wireless access point
[02:22] <vincenz> thx
[02:22] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gumpish about install
[02:22] <NCLife> graft, i made a new user account, and now when i mount my ipod it has the new account as owner
[02:22] <butcherbird> NCLife: i would open whatever app youre using gtkpod or whatever using sudo.  if its permissions thing it should work fine then right?
[02:23] <sorush20> batman: sorry no..
[02:23] <lightbright> timfrost: NO errors now :)  you are a genius :)
[02:23] <gumpish> they don't appear to be linked from the download pages...
[02:23] <graft> NCLife: what's your fstab line look like?
[02:23] <sorush20> any ops here please
[02:23] <jean> Airline Tycoon Deluxe looks cool
[02:23] <lightbright> gnomefreak: no dont be hard on yourself!  you were ON the RIGHT track!  it all worked as you guided me, the ONLY thing I had to do was remove au from the securities!
[02:24] <lightbright> gnomefreak: so THANK you for all your patrience and help today!  I know it was a looong 1 hour helping me, yet at the end we succeeded
[02:24] <NCLife> butcherbird, i hope so, lol.. ill check
[02:24] <lysis> ok so i have two different partitions BOTH with breezy badger.  one is my live, one is my testing.   i remote in via SSH from work and will sometimes need to boot into the other one.   how can i reboot into a different partition without modifying the /boot/grub file?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> sorush20, try !ops
[02:24] <sorush20> guys why am I not registered yet
[02:24] <lightbright> timfrost:  and thanks!  you are great :)
[02:24] <NCLife> graft, where can i find my fstab line?
[02:24] <sorush20> !ops
[02:24] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.
[02:24] <graft> NCLife: in /etc/fstab
[02:24] <gnomefreak> sorush20, if your not registered dont you think you should?
[02:24] <lightbright> timfrost: its worked until today, so why did I have to change to au today?  has something changed so Australians cant use the us servers anymore?
[02:24] <sorush20> gnomefreak: I am registerd .. I'm using chat.freenode.net
[02:24] <sorush20> gnomefreak: is that right?
[02:25] <lightbright> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6937  <-- this one WORKS :)
[02:25] <firefly2442> sorush20, you mean SATA and IDE????
[02:25] <Seveas> sorush20, ?
[02:25] <Amaranth> sorush20: What's up?
[02:25] <vincenz> hmm
[02:25] <lightbright> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6937  <-- this sources.list works for Australians in case you wanted to keep a note
[02:25] <vincenz> seems dhcp only gave me ipv6 not 4
[02:25] <vincenz> also
[02:25] <Seveas> sorush20, the !ops trigger is ONLY for channel problems
[02:25] <vincenz> not sure what to give as nameserver
[02:25] <lightbright> timfrost: you there?
[02:25] <Seveas> do NOT abuse it, next time is a ban
[02:25] <sorush20> Amaranth: I send personal messages to people.
[02:25] <gnomefreak> sorush20, thats not an ops problem :(
[02:25] <vincenz> (wireless router)
[02:25] <glick> excuse me how can i produce a kernel .config file from a running kernel for a new kernel?
[02:26] <lightbright> gnomefreak: you read my last few messages to you?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> Seveas, i told him to try it cause he was looking for an op
[02:26] <gnomefreak> lightbright, yes
[02:26] <cafuego> Where in gconf can i adjust the timing delay for the auto-hide/popup on the panels?
[02:26] <Seveas> gnomefreak, bad idea
[02:26] <Set_> I need an application to autostart. here is what the readme says: http://pastebin.com/500175
[02:26] <gnomefreak> yw sorry i was rough its one of those days
[02:26] <Seveas> cafuego, poke
[02:26] <cafuego> Seveas, peek
[02:26] <Amaranth> sorush20: /ns register <password>
[02:26] <lsuactiafner> glick : cat cat /proc/config.gz > config.gz ; gunzip config.gz
[02:26] <sorush20> /ns
[02:26] <timfrost> lightbright, archive.ubuntu.com is UK, not US.  And it seems that some step in the retrieval of the one Packages.gz file was failing, fro that repository.  I have had that happen to me for the NZ repository at times.  No explanation why
[02:26] <gnomefreak> i see that now Seveas but figured he was looking for op there was an issue
[02:26] <Amaranth> sorush20: then you need to type /ns idenitfy <password> every time you get on IRC
[02:26] <lsuactiafner> glick : or of that doesnt work check in /boot for a config file
[02:26] <lysis> can anybody help me with the grub / rebooting question i put above?
[02:27] <lightbright> gnomefreak: so everything you asked me to do was spot on, just needed to remove au from securities so you were on the right track! thanks very much, I deeply appreciate your help and patiencve today
[02:27] <NCLife> graft, hum.. i cant find my ipod on fstab
[02:27] <henry_> when I download with
[02:27] <henry_> the defualt one
[02:27] <lightbright> timfrost: ah ok!  so shall I keep the au. from now one seeing im in Auatralia anyway :P
[02:27] <Set_> !autostart
[02:27] <ubotu> Set_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:27] <henry_> i never get any kb/s
[02:27] <sorush20> Seveas: so free yet so restricted..  :-P
[02:27] <henry_> and get
[02:27] <sorush20> Amaranth: thanks
[02:27] <graft> NCLife, how do you normally mount it?
[02:27] <henry_> Problem Connecting to tracker.
[02:27] <timfrost> lightbright, yes.
[02:28] <lightbright> timfrost: ok thanks again, works great now
[02:28] <lightbright> timfrost:  are you a developer?
[02:28] <batman> sorush20, i have one more favor to ask.. i have a printer that needs to be installed o.O
[02:28] <kenv> Where would one go to get the codecs for totem.  I am new to Ubuntu and do not know how to watch mpg files with this OS.
[02:28] <Miyomei> Eek, damasta, didn't see your question. In reply: It's just a generic PSX-style USB gamepad.
[02:28] <Amaranth> sorush20: Your freedoms end when you step on someone else's. ;)
[02:28] <sorush20> batman: what printer do you have?
[02:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kenv about codecs
[02:28] <WebLOCH> Hey guys, im about to destroy some data by accident if anyone can answer some partitioning questions I would be greatful!
[02:28] <sorush20> Amaranth: hm
[02:29] <vincenz> dhcp has trouble getting an ip.... and well...what do I put as dNS?   I have a wireless router at <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:29] <NCLife> graft, i just connect it and i mount alone, right now it suppose to be mounted
[02:29] <glick> does anyone know how to produce a kernel .config file from the runnin kernel for a new one?
[02:29] <cobelloy> hi there all, does anyone know anything about iptables
[02:29] <lysis> kenv, you need to get the universe and multiverse repositories un-commented and then you can read the wiki about restricted formats.   wiki = http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:29] <batman> sorush20, lexmark x1185 printer/scanner combo
[02:29] <vincenz> laptop/wifi/ubuntu 5.10
[02:29] <gerald> hello
[02:29] <angel> hi!!!
[02:29] <Miyomei> Well, it seems he's gone.
[02:29] <angel> buang
[02:29] <lightbright> gnomefreak: are you upset with yourself that you missed the security idea about not having au in them?
[02:29] <gerald> goodbe kay bell na!
[02:29] <sorush20> batman: using kde ?
[02:29] <angel> gago
[02:29] <crimsun> glick: your current one exists at /boot/config-$(uname -r) . Copy it over and run ``make oldconfig''.
[02:29] <gerald> sige ha??
[02:29] <gerald> gaga ka
[02:29] <angel> haller
[02:29] <Miyomei> So how do I get my USB game pad to work?
[02:29] <gerald> madel and maribeth buagng
[02:29] <angel> ikaw rin
[02:29] <timfrost> lightbright, no - just an old hand at linux (moved to breezy with a new PC in November)
[02:29] <gnomefreak> lightbright, no im trying to get something fixed over here
[02:29] <glick> cool thanks crimsun
[02:29] <gerald> pisti mo tnana
[02:29] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok
[02:30] <lightbright> timfrost: ah I see
[02:30] <crimsun> oh boy.
[02:30] <batman> sorush20, i'm using whatever the default is installed
[02:30] <Seveas> stupid trolls
[02:30] <batman> sorush20, but i thnk its gnome
[02:31] <gnomefreak> same ip? =same house=can talk at home :(
[02:31] <cobelloy> hello, can anyone help me with iptables issues?
[02:31] <garry> !tell cobelloy about iptable
[02:31] <gnomefreak> ok im out ill see everyone tomorrow
[02:31] <gnomefreak> i hope
[02:31] <vincenz> Anyone have wifi skills?
[02:31] <vincenz> I'm having trouble with dhcp finding a lease
[02:31] <cobelloy> I keep getting this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=646032#post646032
[02:32] <NeonFlux> what kind of skills are you looking for?
[02:32] <crimsun> vincenz: open AP?
[02:32] <vincenz> crimsun: ??
[02:32] <crimsun> vincenz: describe the infrastructure
[02:32] <vincenz> ah
[02:32] <sorush20> batman: try to learn to do the leg work yourself just a quick search with the keywords lexmark x1185 ubuntu gives me this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714 see if it helps
[02:32] <batman> sorush20, the thing is that i did that before
[02:32] <vincenz> Dell D610 lattitude, ubuntu 5.10 fresh install, wifi, 2200 hardware (recognized), it gives me an Ipv6 address but DHCP won't work
[02:33] <garry> !tell vincenz about wifi
[02:33] <crimsun> vincenz: you need to be a lot more precise.
[02:33] <cafuego> vincenz: open, wep or wpa?
[02:33] <vincenz> wep
[02:34] <cafuego> vincenz: Did you set up the interface with the right key?
[02:34] <vincenz> yes
[02:34] <NeonFlux> is it the Wap ID case sensitive?
[02:35] <vincenz> not certain
[02:35] <WebLOCH> Can someone recommend a partitioning tool that I can use to resize my data partition and then resize my root partition to take up the freed space with?
[02:35] <glick> to compile a kernel i just to issue make dep and make bzImage right?
[02:35] <vincenz> it has the correct id
[02:35] <crimsun> make dep is not necessary.
[02:35] <glick> just make bzImage?
[02:36] <Mabus06> How should I partition my 160GB disk to install XP and Ubuntu on it?
[02:36] <crimsun> and modules if you selected anyhow.
[02:36] <crimsun> s/anyhow/any/
[02:36] <glick> make modules?
[02:36] <ksmurf> Mabus ... install xp first
[02:36] <cafuego> Mabus06: Depends on what you're going to do with XP and Linux.
[02:36] <garry> WebLOCH should be able to use gparted that comes with gnome.
[02:37] <WebLOCH> garry, i tried that but it failed to even resize the first partition, looked like it was doing something eventually all dialogues disappeared
[02:37] <vincenz> it's called eth1 not wlan0
[02:37] <Mabus06> cafuego, I want to use Windows for gaming, and Linux for everything else.
[02:37] <cafuego> Mabus06: I'd probably do 100GB XP, 10GB Linux /, 50GB /home, 1GB swap.
[02:37] <TuxOtaku> grub installs to the hard drive containing ubuntu, right?
[02:37] <glick> ima try to build a kernel
[02:37] <cafuego> Mabus06: Adjust the XP and /home depending on what you foresee as space needs. If it's just games, maybe 40GB will do for XP.
[02:38] <Mabus06> cafuego, I meant how. What do I install first, and what order do they need to be in?
[02:38] <Korupt> Seveas, have a minute?
[02:38] <cafuego> Mabus06: Install XP first.
[02:38] <cafuego> Korupt: seveas has gone to bed
[02:38] <vincenz> cafuego: it's called eth1 not wlan0... I followed the howto to no avail
[02:38] <cafuego> Mabus06: And put XP at the beginning of the drive.
[02:38] <vincenz> cafuego: try without passwd?
[02:38] <Mabus06> cafuego, and ubuntu can resize the partitions without deleting things on the windows one?
[02:38] <Korupt> vincenz, wifi probs?
[02:39] <vincenz> Korupt: yeah
[02:39] <garry> WebLOCH Well, if Gparted don't work, I dunno, might have to borrow partition magic or google for linux partition editors
[02:39] <vincenz> also not certain what to put as dns, seeing I have a router
[02:39] <batman> sorush20, what do i need to use the command alien?
[02:39] <WebLOCH> garry, partition magic runs on windows right ?
[02:39] <timfrost> TuxOtaku, no - it installs to the MBR of the first disk, by default.
[02:39] <Korupt> vincenz, I'm working my way through some right now.... I may be farther ahead tho
[02:39] <vincenz> Korupt: oh?
[02:39] <Korupt> vincenz: are you trying to DHCP?
[02:40] <vincenz> Korupt: yeah...keeps trying, can't find a lease
[02:40] <stzack> anyone knows where I can find this package? http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2005/12/msg00301.html
[02:40] <Korupt> vincenz, that means that your security didn't work.... unfortunately wifi has this thing where it won't tell you if it fails
[02:40] <garry> yeah, sorry, I forgot, I don't know if there is a linux pm. My other guess, is that one of the partitions you tried to resize was in use/mounted
[02:40] <sorush20> batman: I don't really know if you have follow the instructions but can't get any where, what are you stuck and what response are you not getting out of the printer.. also if its a scanner and a printer combined I think you need to install the sane packages.
[02:40] <vincenz> Korupt: ah thanks
[02:40] <vincenz> Korupt: I'll turn off the WEP for now
[02:40] <crimsun> stzack: dude, I gave you instructions for building it yourself.
[02:40] <Korupt> vincenz, WEP, WAP, or plain?
[02:41] <Korupt> vincenz, nevermind
[02:41] <TuxOtaku> ok, thanx timfrost.
[02:41] <timfrost> WebLOCH, not necessarily - you can run PArtitionMagic off a boot floppy..  But you might be better to boot from the Ubuntu instal CD, and run parted (you can't resize a mounted partition safely)
[02:41] <vincenz> Korupt: WEP
[02:41] <stzack> I paste the wrong massege man.;
[02:41] <vincenz> also...how do I do a general wireless discover if I'm elsewhere
[02:41] <stzack> lol
[02:42] <Korupt> cafuego, any idea how to try authenticating with WEP clients before wpa_supplicant?
[02:42] <WebLOCH> timfrost, can you give further advice on the ubuntu livecd + parted ?
[02:42] <Korupt> vincenz, "iwlist wlan0 scanning | awk '/ESSID/'"
[02:42] <vincenz> When I manually do a ifdown ifup I get...sit0 unknown hardware type 776
[02:42] <stzack> The message that I would paste here is: Anyone knows if thereis a Sempron that works in 64 (for Ubuntu _64)?
[02:42] <vincenz> Korupt: thanks but it's eth1
[02:43] <Korupt> vincenz, same idea
[02:43] <firefly2442> how do I figure out hd0, hd1, hd2 etc....?
[02:43] <vincenz> but what about this sit0  unknown hardware address type 776
[02:43] <timfrost> WebLOCH, I haven't used it to resize partitions - I did a clean install on a new PC
[02:43] <crimsun> vincenz: ignore it.
[02:43] <batman> sorush20, i'm trying to run sudo tar xvzf  z600llpddk-2.0.tgz -C and it says sudo tar xvzf  z600llpddk-2.0.tgz -C
[02:43] <WebLOCH> timfrost, yeah i did but ive messed up, ive made / too small now its hungry
[02:43] <benplaut> the eternal question... anyone know of a good linux cad program?
[02:44] <Korupt> vincenz, what type of wireless card?
[02:44] <batman> sorush20, * tar: option requires an argument -- C
[02:44] <vincenz> Korupt: 2200 intel
[02:44] <Korupt> vincenz, what method are you using to access it?
[02:45] <vincenz> Korupt: how do I check
[02:45] <vincenz> fortunatley I have a desktop to irc :D
[02:45] <Korupt> vincenz, I mean how did you install the driver?
[02:45] <vincenz> Korupt: standard... ubuntu did it during install
[02:46] <garry> firefly2442  Hd# refers to ide storage devices, /dev/sd# refers to your raid, sata, usb, forewire storage devices.
[02:46] <Korupt> vincenz, hmmmm.... I'm not sure if that card is natively supported... you may need ndiswrapper
[02:46] <vincenz> oh that's why
[02:46] <vincenz> crap
[02:46] <vincenz> it's WPA
[02:46] <vincenz> not WEP
[02:46] <Korupt> pft
[02:46] <vincenz> how do I change it to WPA?
[02:46] <garry> say firefly2442 the # starts at 1 and up.
[02:46] <Korupt> yeah... you need to install pwa_supplicant
[02:46] <Korupt> *wpa
[02:46] <Korupt> one sec
[02:46] <firefly2442> garry, doesn't it start from 0?
[02:47] <firefly2442> garry, isn't it specific to grub?
[02:47] <WebLOCH> Korupt, is there a great list, which is categorised, that gives natively supported hardware?
[02:47] <Korupt> vincenz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[02:47] <vincenz> thx
[02:47] <Korupt> WebLOCH, I'm sure there is... I haven't found it tho
[02:47] <garry> firefly2442 the # is the partition number, there is an alpha char that refers to the drive ordinal order starting from a-z
[02:47] <WebLOCH> haha
[02:47] <WebLOCH> Korupt, me  neither :(
[02:47] <timfrost> batman, -C expects a directory name (and it changes to that directory before starting the extract
[02:48] <vincenz> Korupt: it's on the install cd?
[02:48] <Korupt> vincenz, no idea
[02:48] <Korupt> vincenz, in theory yes
[02:48] <vincenz> thx
[02:49] <garry> firefly2442 All the distros I've checked on, it is the same, first partition on a drive is counted as 1, some have the swap as 5 so you can have a drive with two partitions like this /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda5 strange as it seems.
[02:49] <d33t> hello fellow ubuntu users
[02:49] <garry> firefly2442 ye are right, there is the grub thing, I forgot about that, it maps things differently, I"m use to lilo. sorry for the confusion.
[02:50] <d33t> anyone have time to answer a quick question?
[02:50] <Korupt> vincenz, word of warning..... there are some problems after you install it.... namely connecting to WEP routers is a lot harder
[02:50] <timfrost> garry, firefly2442, grub couints disks and partitins from 0. And in the example of hda1 and hda5, hda5 is hd(0,1) for grub
[02:51] <holyguacomole> alrighty... so... got ubuntu from a computer teach at school; using it because windows hates me and refuses to load; now, can anyone tell me why it won't recognize a wireless network card? p.s. i connected it *after* installing ubuntu
[02:51] <garry> timfrost yes, I had just realized. Silly forgetful me. I let WEBloch know.
[02:51] <vincenz> Korupt: damn, not on the cd
[02:51] <Korupt> vincenz, download it from one of the repos and install it using dpkg
[02:51] <vincenz> I'll just use WEP for now
[02:52] <Korupt> vincenz, not a bad idea
[02:52] <murder1> Can someone help a REAL Linux noob?
[02:52] <garry> Hey, I'm the only real noob here! j/k
[02:52] <d33t> network question: i recently built a box with 2 network cards (1 onboard, 1 pci). i later decided i didn't need the pci card and removed it. problem is, the onboard one is associated as eth1, so i have no eth0. i woudl like to change the card to use eth0, where do i edit this?
[02:52] <WebLOCH> murder1, nope, but I can NOOB a real linux
[02:52] <toko123> greetings
[02:53] <arrinmurr> murder1: depends on your problem
[02:53] <bimberi> holyguacomole: check for your card (and any instructions) here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[02:53] <shovex> /sys
[02:53] <d33t> i thought in gentoo it was something under /etc/donf.d, but ubuntu has no such settings (i'm still getting used to debian here.....)
[02:54] <WebLOCH> Korupt, hey ... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponents
[02:54] <timfrost> d33t, System->Adminmistration->Networking (or sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces, if you want to hand-edit the file)
[02:54] <garry> d33t, see /system/preferences/network
[02:54] <vincenz> Korupt: what do I put as DNS?
[02:54] <firefly2442> garry, ok thanks!
[02:54] <bimberi> d33t: /etc/iftab
[02:54] <toko123> checking dmesg on a newe install I don't see my snd card sonndblaster live 5 the os defaulted to the onbd sound chip which I have disables in bios afterwards is there a utilty I can run to scan for new devises?
[02:55] <garry> firefly2442 welcome. I need to really get up to speed on grub myself. :) /sheepish grin.
[02:55] <Korupt> vincenz, will be picked up automatically if you are using DHCP
[02:55] <d33t> bimberi - that's what i was looking for
[02:55] <d33t> thanks
[02:55] <d33t> no gui options for me, this is a server without X
[02:55] <bimberi> d33t: yw :)
[02:55] <WebLOCH> Korupt, my bad, that list is pretty poop
[02:55] <vincenz> Korupt: thx
[02:55] <toko123> is there a utility I can run on a live system to see if the os will detect a snd card?
[02:55] <d33t> bimberi - do i need to reboot, or can i get it to take by retsarting the network?
[02:55] <rendi> hi how prevent my server from DDOS attack ?
[02:56] <masX> hey all, can someone tell me how my nic module is getting loaded if it's not in /etc/modules?  Does ifup -a load any modules?