[03:39] <hyphenated> ssstormy: which program or command tells you that?
[03:39] <ssstormy> menkent, soudns like you're having issues with asian fonts
[03:39] <menkent> arabic, actually
[03:39] <iluminate> Greetings! Does anyone know what the difference is between the "Server Version" and choosing "Server" when installing from a Breezy CD?
[03:39] <ssstormy> gparted tells me the disk is 239367MB
[03:39] <menkent> but yes, this would certainly be me having issues. =\
[03:40] <hyphenated> ssstormy: what does fdisk -l /dev/hda say?
[03:40] <newuser> mounted windows as described in wiki, nothing in folder, is all lost?
[03:40] <ssstormy> suddenly the last partition is the right size agian
[03:40] <hyphenated> nice :-) the wonderful world of linux
[03:41] <MrDez> would that be a maxtor ata133 drive by chance?
[03:41] <ssstormy> MrDez, yes it is
[03:41] <ssstormy> are you scanning me, or is it an issue?
[03:41] <ssstormy> (of the drives)
[03:41] <MrDez> ive had 2 120gig maxtor ata133's give me very similar problems
[03:41] <_jason> he's stealing you megabytes!
[03:41] <Chris_C> Sound Juicer plays an audio CD fine (sound from speakers); gnome-cd does not (app makes motions as is playing, but no sound from speakers); any ideas why?
[03:41] <MrDez> but no problems with my various other drives
[03:42] <Chris_C> as if
[03:42] <bimberi> iluminate: ubuntu-server has server oriented packages on the CD (smp kernels, apache), instead of the xorg & gnome packages on the normal cd
[03:42] <bimberi> *such as smp kernels, apache ...
[03:42] <hyphenated> Chris_C: gnome-cd might not be using the right sound output device
[03:42] <ssstormy> Chris_C, check mute settings through the system and make sure they're outputting throught the same device (i.e. alsa, esd...)
[03:42] <blazinsys> why is my screen black when i start up
[03:42] <Chris_C> where should I look?
[03:42] <_jason> blazinsys, do you get a command prompt?
[03:43] <ssstormy> MrDez, well it's better than the SATA Maxtor that I couldn't write to period.  but I think tha'ts the $40 motherboard's faulty fault
[03:43] <blazinsys> i can hear the system sounds
[03:43] <_jason> blazinsys, so only when you start X ?
[03:43] <ssstormy> Chris_C, preferences for them
[03:43] <blazinsys> yes
[03:43] <MrDez> heh
[03:43] <MrDez> ya
[03:43] <_jason> blazinsys, what video card do you have?  Try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and setting the video driver to "vesa"
[03:44] <MrDez> got a cheapo sata board i was trying ubuntu on myself and i had to stick with ide drive
[03:44] <Chris_C> System -> Pref -> Sound ... nothing there ...
[03:44] <MrDez> cant wait to try debian or ub on my new $60 board with sata raid on it (SIS chipset), that should be a fun crash and burn install
[03:45] <ssstormy> crash and burn? why?
[03:45] <psusi> MrDez, actually, I got sata raid support working in ubunut, and am trying to get it into dapper for out of the box support
[03:45] <psusi> MrDez, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto
[03:45] <killerbird> silly question... anyone know how to make the terminal be black with white text?
[03:45] <MrDez> weird sata raid drivers tend to freak out windows, much less linux
[03:45] <MrDez> i know how to setup a software raid, but the mobo supposedly has hardware side psuedo raid capabilities
[03:46] <ssstormy> MrDez, windows freaks about a lot of stuff
[03:46] <johndarkhorse> killerbird: click on your menu at the top of gnome-terminal and look at the profile
[03:46] <ssstormy> take for example
[03:46] <ssstormy> blue screen of death
[03:46] <psusi> MrDez, aye... you don't use the proprietary drivers in linux, linux sees the hardware for what it is:  a multi channel sata controller... the dmraid package is a user mode utility that configures the kernel software raid to use the drives based on the bios parameters stored on the disk
[03:46] <psusi> MrDez, it's really software raid, with bios support, hence it is called hardware fakeraid
[03:46] <Chris_C> hyphenated: how do I tell which output gnome-cd is using?  There are no prefs for that in the in the app
[03:46] <MrDez> ah
[03:46] <killerbird> okay cool
[03:47] <newuserlaptop> mounted windows as per wiki, nothing in folder, is all lost?
[03:47] <psusi> MrDez, read the wiki article I pointed you to... it explains it all
[03:47] <MrDez> will do, thx for the info
[03:47] <ssstormy> the only time linux seems to freak is when it boots a bad kernel or with bad params, and says "kernel panic"
[03:47] <killerbird> sustanace time
[03:47] <ssstormy> which instills an unnecesary feeling of fear
[03:47] <MrDez> heh
[03:48] <MrDez> actually
[03:48] <MrDez> theres nothing like X freezing the whole box
[03:48] <wotnarg> How would one make an image file of a cd, dd?
[03:48] <MrDez> brings back nostalgia of windows days
[03:48] <MrDez> heh
[03:48] <ssstormy> MrDez, only happened to me once, when another program was controlling the X output (fullscreen)
[03:49] <ssstormy> windows has worse graphical freeze
[03:49] <Chris_C> Sorry, I've really searched for this, no dice:  how to check that gnome-cd is using correct output device?
[03:49] <MrDez> happened to me a couple times with an old debian box
[03:49] <ssstormy> btw, anyone know how to force quit gksudo when it freezes?
[03:49] <MrDez> but it was hardware related
[03:49] <MrDez> so i cant really blame anything x/nix
[03:49] <MrDez> afk'ing
[03:49] <Kovecses> ssstormy, sudo killall gksudo
[03:49] <MrDez> ki
[03:49] <MrDez> see kovec
[03:49] <MrDez> heh
[03:49] <ssstormy> I mean from X
[03:50] <MrDez> open a terminal
[03:50] <MrDez> or
[03:50] <iluminate> bimberi: Thanks for the answer. Will go live soon with my LAMP serve and I do not yet know which distro to choose. Is Ubuntu server stable enough? What about updates and patches? From what I have noticed there is a lot of updates for the Desktop version but what about Server?
[03:50] <ssstormy> a while ago I was on a computer with 0 virtual terminals and a crummy gksudo I couldn't remove
[03:50] <ssstormy> so I'd have to quit X everytime it froze
[03:50] <ssstormy> iluminate, it depends on what kind of a system you need
[03:50] <MrDez> clt-alt-shift-f1
[03:50] <MrDez> that will give you command line login
[03:51] <MrDez> then alt-f7 to return to first session of X
[03:51] <ssstormy> iluminate, if you're hard-core programmer, pick something else
[03:51] <ssstormy> MrDez, I know it's supposed to but the X server was messed too
[03:51] <ssstormy> so I couldn't move to them
[03:51] <lysis> can anybody here explain to me why i get an error when i try to growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvdrw=*.img  but it works fine if i put the full filename?  some of those filenames are just fucking long . . .
[03:52] <johndarkhorse> lysis: language please
[03:52] <lysis> johndarkhorse, sorry . . .
[03:52] <Hollowman> how come with sudo i still get permission denied?
[03:52] <lysis> Hollowman, what are you trying to do?
[03:52] <ssstormy> hmm, anyone famiiar with X11, Xv etc?
[03:53] <ssstormy> my savage2000 can't output with Xv, but it can use X11
[03:53] <iluminate> ssstormy: you mean the hardware? Poweredge 1850. Will be running PHP 5, Mysql 5 and Apache
[03:53] <ssstormy> iluminate, I mean if you are really down to earth, in th eguts of the system type, use a diff distro
[03:53] <Hollowman> i have my aim.tgz in / and it wants to extract to /usr
[03:53] <Hollowman> and stuff
[03:53] <Hollowman> and i used sudo
[03:53] <ssstormy> Hollowman, you need to do visudo as root
[03:54] <Hollowman> visudo?
[03:54] <ssstormy> then just add an entry like the default one for the root user in there, with your username instead
[03:54] <lysis> ssstormy, what's the difference between sudo and visudo?
[03:54] <ssstormy> Hollowman, a special program for editing the sudo authenticatino file
[03:54] <bimberi> iluminate: ubuntu-server uses the same repositories so updates with the desktop version.  I think (but have no evidence) that non-gui packages might update less frequently
[03:54] <Hollowman> so do i have to log out
[03:54] <ssstormy> lysis, see that comment to HOllowman
[03:54] <ssstormy> Hollowman, go to a virtual termina
[03:54] <Hollowman> k there
[03:54] <lysis> Hollowman, make sure your permissions are accurate on the file as well.
[03:55] <tafsen> how can I get VI to open when I use the "crontab -e" commnd?
[03:55] <lysis> vi scares me . . . i can figure out how to edit with it, but i don't have a clue how to save and whatnot.
[03:55] <ssstormy> lysis, there is nothing like that.  you can't have regular user permisions to /usr
[03:55] <Hollowman> im at a terminal
[03:55] <Hollowman> now hat
[03:55] <Hollowman> now what?*
[03:55] <ssstormy> lysis, same here (was like that)
[03:55] <ssstormy> Hollowman, su
[03:55] <ssstormy> then give root password
[03:55] <bimberi> iluminate: ubuntu-server is really about providing a CD that has more server-oriented stuff on it, for where internet-connectivity / bandwidth is an issue.
[03:56] <Hollowman> su: authentication failure
[03:56] <lysis> ssstormy, i just know i've never had problems using sudo so far . . . i usually do sudo -s that way i can just be root.
[03:56] <ssstormy> make sure you give the root password right
[03:56] <Hollowman> wtf
[03:56] <Hollowman> i did
[03:56] <lysis> ssstormy, and Hollowman, you can't just su       su is disabled on normal systems.
[03:56] <Hollowman> still failed
[03:56] <ssstormy> lysis, realy?
[03:56] <ssstormy> works for me
[03:56] <Hollowman> maybe why its failing
[03:57] <lysis> ssstormy, yes.   you may have done something different.    su is disabled.  that's WHY you use sudo.   they disabled su for root hacks and whatnot.
[03:57] <_jason> Hollowman, what are you trying to do?
[03:57] <lysis> ubotu su
[03:57] <ubotu> I don't know, lysis
[03:57] <Hollowman> gunzip my aim.tgz
[03:57] <ssstormy> Hollowman, switch to a virtual terminal with ctrl+alt+F1 (get back with ctrl+alt+F7)
[03:57] <ssstormy> login as root
[03:57] <timfrost> lysis, the shell doesn't expand the wildcard in  '/dev/dvdrw=*.img' , because it sees the whole "word" as a path name
[03:57] <lysis> can't do it in a real terminal either.
[03:57] <ssstormy> Hollowman, never mind.  Just open up Gaim  :)
[03:57] <_jason> Hollowman, put it in your home directory and tar xvzf aim.tgz
[03:58] <ssstormy> lysis, I mean from the username: you put root, and flat out login as root
[03:58] <lysis> timfrost, i don't understand.  it thinks the * is part of the name?
[03:58] <lysis> ssstormy, root is disabled as well.
[03:58] <_jason> Hollowman, what is aim.tgz?
[03:58] <ssstormy> lysis, onyl in X
[03:58] <Hollowman> aol instant messenger
[03:58] <ssstormy> no on virtual ternimals (the F1-6 gourp)
[03:58] <_jason> Hollowman, you don't like gaim?
[03:58] <ssstormy> Hollowman, do you need THE aol instant messanger program?
[03:58] <Hollowman> not really
[03:59] <timfrost> lysis, yes.  It actually thinks the filename is "/dev/dvdrw=*.img" - the = is NOT a shell separator
[03:59] <ssstormy> look for another
[03:59] <Hollowman> i wanted to see how it works
[03:59] <Hollowman> compaired to gaim
[03:59] <ssstormy> search synaptic for AIM or something
[03:59] <_jason> Hollowman, I didn't even know there was aim for linux
[03:59] <xenex> How do I restart the sound? I have closed all media players and the music is still playing.
[03:59] <Hollowman> aim.com :)
[03:59] <_jason> Hollowman, can i ask what you don't like about gaim?  is it a particular feature?  just curious
[03:59] <iluminate> bimberi: thnx! Is there any big site running Ubuntu server that you know?
[04:00] <Hollowman> just decided to try THE aim :)
[04:00] <lysis> _jason, yes. aim makes a linux version. i personally think it sucks compared to gaim.   AIM didn't put any effort into it . . .
[04:00] <lysis> timfrost, is there a way to use the wild card for burning dvds?
[04:01] <lysis> ssstormy, you sure root is available in pure console?
[04:01] <ssstormy> lysis, yeah
[04:01] <ssstormy> only blocked on X login
[04:01] <ssstormy> and that can be changed
[04:01] <lysis> ssstormy, i am unable to login as root.  "Login incorrect"
[04:01] <lysis> using my user's password . . .
[04:01] <ssstormy> that's the problem
[04:02] <ssstormy> you didn't ever set a root password
[04:02] <ssstormy> dunnow what it is
[04:02] <ssstormy> the default that is
[04:02] <lysis> ahh.   i'm not worried about it.
[04:02] <killerbird> in ubuntu, it is your user password
[04:02] <_jason> lysis, don't login as root
[04:02] <lysis> i don't use root; everything i've EVER done is available through sudo.
[04:02] <ssstormy> lysis, that's ok
[04:02] <_jason> ubotu, tell lysis about root
[04:02] <ssstormy> killerbird, wasn't like that for me
[04:02] <lysis> _jason, i don't use root.  i was trying to prove ssstormy wrong. =)
[04:03] <_jason> lysis, oh ok sorry, was reading aim's page about linux :)
[04:03] <lysis> no problem buddy.   i still prefer gaim.  i actually prefer kopete because of the pretty colors but it's too buggy in ubuntu.  (dunno why)      i can't wait for gaim 2.0 to not be beta anymore.  it's AWESOME
[04:03] <timfrost> lysis, in a for loop like the following: for f in *.img do  growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvdrw=$f; done
[04:03] <newuserlaptop> sudo fdisk -l does not show my windows ntfs partition.
[04:04] <newuserlaptop> gpart does
[04:04] <_jason> lysis, yeah the beta looks nice... the aim on aim.com looks... how should I put it... ugly
[04:04] <lysis> timfrost, there are 80+ files in the directory i'm usually in.
[04:04] <xenex> How do I get .aac files to play correctly?
[04:04] <newuserlaptop> /dev/hda1 is listed in fdisk as linux
[04:04] <_jason> ubotu, tell xenex about aaz
[04:04] <_jason> ubotu, tell xenex about aac
[04:04] <xenex> It's a music file
[04:05] <lysis> ubotu, tell xenex about restricted formats
[04:05] <KSF> i give up... i can't get this damn wifi connection to work
[04:06] <kasemodz> hey does anybody know why I can't get a ip address from my wireless router. It doesn't have wep. the wireless card can scan the access points just can't join em for some reason anyboyd plz help..
[04:06] <KSF> none of the compiles are working on my machine (yes i have gcc)
[04:06] <Hollowman> to copy a folder is cp still, right?
[04:06] <newuserlaptop> is there  way to convert to ntfs
[04:06] <PuMpErNi1kLe> Hollowman: yeah
[04:06] <Hollowman> ok
[04:06] <_jason> Hollowman, yep, cp source destination
[04:06] <KSF> does someone feel like making a deb package ndiswrapper and ipw2200
[04:06] <PuMpErNi1kLe> newuserlaptop: Convert how?
[04:06] <lysis> somebody should make a deb package of gaim 2.0 beta. lol
[04:06] <PuMpErNi1kLe> newuserlaptop: As in make Ubuntu use ntfs instead of ext3? O_o
[04:07] <Hollowman> ..... cp: omitting directory
[04:07] <_jason> lysis, it builds 'ok'
[04:07] <Hollowman> what does tat mean
[04:07] <tafsen> can anyone help me to get aMSN to use ALSA sound?
[04:07] <_jason> Hollowman, cp -r
[04:07] <bshumate> Hollowman: you must use the -R switch to copy a directory (folder) with contents, e.g. cp -R /foo /bar
[04:07] <Hollowman> ok
[04:07] <KSF> unbunu with ext3
[04:07] <Hollowman> thanks
[04:07] <newuserlaptop> as in trying to recover my ntfs partition.
[04:07] <lysis> _jason, i just have a problem with not using packages or apt in general.
[04:07] <KSF> seriously.. im thinking of abandoning linux all togheter... this is pathetic
[04:08] <_jason> lysis, I see
[04:08] <lysis> _jason, it's ok on my "trying out something before i royally screw something up" partition of ubuntu.  =p
[04:08] <chmtdist> hey, I'm kind of new to gnome... is there a key combo that will switch virtual desktops?
[04:08] <lysis> i've got 2 breezy badger installations. =)
[04:08] <KSF> can some please TRY to help me get my wifi connection going
[04:08] <_jason> lysis, meh checkinstall takes care of my worries
[04:08] <lysis> chmtdist, System, Preferences, Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:08] <chmtdist> thanks
[04:08] <Xeppo> Hola all
[04:08] <johndarkhorse> KSF: linux has long been about stability over 'cutting edge'
[04:08] <lysis> chmtdist, you can setup whatever buttons you'd like to do many things. =)
[04:08] <chmtdist> KSF, sure, I can try
[04:08] <tafsen> can anyone help me to get aMSN to use ALSA sound?
[04:08] <chmtdist> KSF, what do you got?
[04:08] <PuMpErNi1kLe> newuserlaptop: Ubuntu can only read ntfs, not write, so you can salvage data, but that's about it.
[04:09] <lysis> tafsen, i don't know if anybody reading has used aMSN with ALSA.  are you sure it is supported?
[04:09] <chmtdist> KSF, what kind of wifi card do you have?
[04:09] <lysis> tafsen, there is an ALSA wrapper for OSS.  if aMSN uses OSS you should look into that.
[04:09] <Xeppo> I'm installing ubuntu on an old Slot P3.  It freezes at 83% on the install every time I try.  When it freezes, it says "Configuring ttf-bengali-fonts"
[04:09] <newuserlaptop> PuMpErNilkle fdisk -l shows /dev/hda1 as a linux system whenit should be windows ntfs
[04:09] <Xeppo> Anyone ever heard of that happening?
[04:10] <tafsen> lysis, I need it to use alsa so I can get sound from it when I use other programs with sound
[04:10] <lysis> tafsen, the package is called 'alsa-oss'    you can type sudo apt-get install alsa-oss in your terminal
[04:10] <chmtdist> KSF, you here?
[04:10] <tafsen> lysis, what about gstreamer?
[04:10] <johndarkhorse> Xeppo: did you install disk check out during the verification process?
[04:11] <Xeppo> johndarkhorse: err... what
[04:11] <Xeppo> ?
[04:11] <lysis> tafsen, what that allows you to do is use alsa for oss programs.  i had to use that for TeamSpeak
[04:11] <nocti> hey guys
[04:11] <lysis> tafsen, i don't know how it works with gstreamer to be honest.  i had gstreamer installed and it worked . . .
[04:11] <Xeppo> johndarkhorse: I've tried three different CDs now.  They all hang at the exact same place.
[04:11] <nocti> my typematic setting keeps repeating on X but not on console, i reboot just to fix it. but sometimes it comes back. what do i do? thanks
[04:12] <tafsen> lysis, what's a oss program?
[04:12] <lysis> tafsen, a program which relies on the OSS sound system (open sound system)
[04:12] <chmtdist> no wifi for KFS, i guess
[04:12] <KSF> chmtdist: i sent you a msg directly to you
[04:13] <newuserlaptop> fstab does not show any hda1
[04:13] <chmtdist> KSF, oh sorry , i must not have received it or something :) ?
[04:13] <chmtdist> KSF, i'll query you
[04:13] <KSF> hmm.. thats od
[04:13] <tafsen> lysis, but you don't know how to change the sound source for amsn?
[04:14] <lysis> tafsen, like i said i don't use amsn.  i don't chat with voice.
[04:14] <Xeppo> *pokes*
[04:14] <chmtdist> KSF, can you see my msg?
[04:15] <tafsen> lysis, I don't chat with voice either, but the alert sound doesn't work
[04:15] <david_m_e> SaMBa question: i'm using Ubuntu, but it doesn't seem to have the Samba command 'smbsh'  anyone know if it's called something else? (yes, i a 'find...' for it - nothing)
[04:15] <lysis> tafsen, try GAIM.  it uses MSN, AIM, Yahoo! and more.
[04:15] <KSF> chmtdist: did you get my responses?
[04:15] <lysis> and it's included with Ubuntu
[04:15] <lysis> Xeppo, i wish i knew how to help.  what's the problem buddy?
[04:16] <Xeppo> lysis, I'm installing ubuntu on my old as hell P3 500mhz
[04:16] <lysis> not working?
[04:16] <Xeppo> lysis, but every time I try to install, it stops at 83%
[04:16] <chmtdist> KSF, I can't seem to see your message, (although i didn't spend a lot of time setting up my client) just join #KSF-wifi
[04:16] <lysis> Xeppo, it could be a number of things.     what discs are you using?  burned them yourself?
[04:16] <KSF> k.
[04:16] <Xeppo> lysis, when it hits "configuring ttf-bengali-fonts"
[04:17] <Xeppo> lysis, got them from shipit - and I've tried 3 different CDs.
[04:17] <lysis> Xeppo, it sounds like you have a bad image.  did you re-download the disc and then re-burn it any of those 3 discs you used?
[04:17] <Shadyman> Hey guys.. what's the vga= option for 1280x800?
[04:17] <lysis> you're using the shipits?  ok those are **almost always** perfect.
[04:17] <lysis> you sure your disc drive is good?   you sure the drive is good?
[04:17] <Eleaf> lol
[04:17] <lysis> it's stopping in that spot for a reason.
[04:18] <Xeppo> lysis - it might be the harddrive, but I havn't had any problems before
[04:18] <lysis> there's ALWAYS a reason.  it doesn't sound like it's the media, it sounds like something is wrong with the hardware it's going on.
[04:18] <Xeppo> lysis - I know the cdrom is fine
[04:18] <lysis> what size is the hard drive?
[04:18] <johndarkhorse> Xeppo: more likely it's your cd-rom drive if it's hardware.
[04:18] <Xeppo> ~7 gigw
[04:18] <Xeppo> but it hangs AFTER I take the cd out
[04:18] <johndarkhorse> Xeppo: during the install, choose 'expert' and find the verify media option
[04:19] <lysis> the size isnt' a problem . . . i really think it might be your rom drive . . .     do you have extra hardware that you can test in that computer system?
[04:19] <lysis> thanks johndarkhorse. didn't know that was an option. =)
[04:19] <Xeppo> lysis and johndarkhorse: I'll try to varify the CD
[04:19] <david_m_e> shadyman u there?
[04:19] <Xeppo> Verify, rather
[04:19] <Xeppo> I'll probably be back.
[04:20] <thev> anyone have a wacom tablet working in Dapper?
[04:21] <lysis> thev, did it work in breezy?
[04:21] <thev> I never had breezy
[04:21] <thev> it won't install for me
[04:21] <lysis> ouch . . . what's wrong with breezy to where it won't install?
[04:21] <david_m_e> Samba experts out there? i can't get Samba on my Ubuntu system to let me log on from a Windows box AND don't have a clue where i go to add a user
[04:21] <thev> it won't pull anything from the CD (after language selection) to start the process
[04:21] <lysis> i'd recommend using breezy for now.  dapper is still under development and won't be officially available until some time in april (and i still won't want to use it for another month after that)
[04:21] <thev> I don't know what's up
[04:22] <thev> Dapper installs no prob
[04:22] <thev> breezy AMD64 and i386 gimmie the same grief
[04:22] <cafuego> thev: maybe, but it *is* currently broken.
[04:22] <lysis> thev, did you verify data after burning the Breezy disc?  maybe you should follow the directions johndarkhorse just gave Xeppo and hit advanced options and verify data. =)
[04:22] <killerbird> what do i have to do to fix the following error... it shows up when i try to compile stuff...checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:22] <killerbird>
[04:22] <thev> can I install breezy from dapper?
[04:23] <cafuego> You must fix the desire to create executables and use precompiled packages.
[04:23] <lysis> killerbird, you need additional things.  crap what did i have to install last night . . .
[04:23] <cafuego> thev: nope
[04:23] <killerbird> thanks cafuego , i would have never guessed :P ;)
[04:23] <maxtnk> hi
[04:23] <lysis> killerbird, install build-essential
[04:23] <cafuego> dataangel: 'sudo smbpasswd --help' :-)
[04:23] <johndarkhorse> killerbird: do you have "build-essential" installed?
[04:23] <killerbird> i dunno :(?
[04:23] <lysis> johndarkhorse, beat ya to it. =)
[04:24] <cafuego> killerbird: And don't just run 'make install' as root, it will plonk stuff everywhere. Use 'checkinstall'.
[04:24] <killerbird> apt install build-essential?
[04:24] <lysis> killerbird, type "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:24] <cafuego> What are you building anyway?
[04:24] <lysis> that is a good question as well cafuego
[04:24] <lysis> johndarkhorse, i'm not either.  i was happy i remembered it. lol =)
[04:24] <killerbird> it sayds it is already the newest version
[04:24] <killerbird> wine for amd 64
[04:24] <lysis> hmmm
[04:25] <killerbird> word
[04:25] <lysis> i'm unfortunately not familiar with x64.  you're stuck there
[04:25] <cafuego> killerbird: Does thata ctually work *at all*?
[04:25] <lysis> i prefer x86 even on x64 systems since there's not enough progs available.
[04:25] <killerbird> cafuego,  the wine website claims that for ppc and amd64, just comile the binaries
[04:25] <killerbird> i mean
[04:25] <killerbird> the source
[04:25] <killerbird> silly me
[04:25] <maxtnk> who knows what kernel by means of apt-get update?
[04:26] <cafuego> killerbird: ppc? How would that execute win32 code?
[04:26] <foampeace> !uboto xmltv
[04:26] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, foampeace
[04:26] <killerbird> i dunno
[04:26] <Eleaf> lol
[04:26] <foampeace> !ubotu xmltv
[04:26] <ubotu> foampeace: I don't know
[04:26] <Eleaf> foampeace, you must have angered the ubotu
[04:26] <killerbird> i dont even know 3what ppc is i'm only itereted in amd64 :P
[04:27] <skon> ppc = power pc
[04:27] <killerbird> ah i see now
[04:27] <tempest1> is anybody aware of a command that's used to automatically launch a program to use a SOCKS server
[04:27] <danielmccauley> can anyone help getting the airport wireless workin in a powerbook for ubuntu?
[04:27] <lysis> killerbird, ppc = apple i believe.
[04:27] <killerbird> yea
[04:27] <skon> Does anyone know how to fix the problem of fonts not being displayed in man correctly?
[04:27] <maxtnk> want new version a kernel
[04:27] <killerbird> that makes sense
[04:27] <ianw_> Does anyone here have World of Warcraft working with wine?
[04:28] <Papoose> what is the difference between xinetd.d and init.d?
[04:28] <maxtnk> who knows what kernel by means of apt-get update?
[04:28] <cafuego> danielmccauley: airport extreme? Which kernel?
[04:28] <lysis> ianw_, have you looked into cedega?   they claim it works there.
[04:28] <foampeace> any docs on xmltv anywhere
[04:28] <foampeace> ?
[04:28] <danielmccauley> the one that would come with breezy
[04:28] <tempest1> foampeace, google
[04:28] <danielmccauley> im assuming before dapper
[04:28] <lysis> foampeace, i'm unfamiliar with what that is.
[04:28] <lysis> danielmccauley, i'm not sure how many people in here are usin ppc.
[04:28] <cafuego> danielmccauley: If you have normal airport, it should be detected. If you have airport extreme (802.11g) it's not going to work.
[04:29] <danielmccauley> i think i have extreme
[04:29] <lysis> cafuego, 802.11b will work though?
[04:29] <danielmccauley> i thought they came out with something
[04:29] <cafuego> lysis: Not with that hardware
[04:29] <maxtnk> please help  who knows what kernel by means of apt-get update?
[04:29] <lysis> cafuego, do you know if it can be emulated with the normal drivers and he can be stuck using 802.11b?
[04:29] <cafuego> danielmccauley: They did, but it's very alpha (makes my mac lock up) and you'll need the absolute latest bleeding edge ubuntu.
[04:29] <killerbird> crap
[04:29] <lysis> maxtnk, the kernel will update itself automatically using the update manager.
[04:30] <skon> maxtnk, it does it automatically unless you want a different architecutre
[04:30] <lysis> cafuego, so he needs to get cvs version of dapper to get it running?
[04:30] <killerbird> this whole 64 bit processor thing is pissing me off.. i figured i waited long enough for there to be stuff for it -_-
[04:30] <cafuego> danielmccauley: Does your networks use wep?
[04:30] <cafuego> danielmccauley: or wpa?
[04:30] <danielmccauley> yes but i can disable it
[04:30] <danielmccauley> wep
[04:30] <lysis> killerbird, wait longer. =)          i'd wait until middle of 06 honestly.
[04:30] <foampeace> xmltv should be a free tv listings program
[04:30] <foampeace> i have yet to get it working
[04:30] <cafuego> danielmccauley: Ok. You can upgrade to dapper and install kernel 2.6.15-11
[04:31] <Xeppo> I'm running 64-bit right now :-D!  ((but it's windows! :-P))
[04:31] <maxtnk> lysis: and not it is necessary to prescribe in grub,
[04:31] <cafuego> danielmccauley: The ppc kernel guy reckons he got his to work ...
[04:31] <killerbird> wells it frustrating, I can understand it taking that long for the windows community but i expected the linux folks to be rocking with it ;/
[04:31] <skon> Does anyone know how to fix the problem of fonts not being displayed in man correctly?
[04:31] <borisattva> i did a full ubuntu reinstall, installed the official nvidia drivers, lexmark printer, full gstream package, k3b, nerolinux, mplayer, xmms, celestia and grisbi, then went to set up access to my remote ftp server, and all mounted connections give me this http://pastebin.com/507654
[04:32] <lysis> maxtnk, it automatically updates grub after auto updating.
[04:32] <lysis> maxtnk, you'll see the new kernel option and the old kernel option
[04:32] <borisattva> did my ftp association get screwed up somewhere laong the way? on all my prveious installs. ftp was nevre a problem
[04:32] <skon> borisattva, are you trying to connect to another ftp site?
[04:32] <lysis> borisattva, you need an ftp server working still?
[04:33] <borisattva> yes
[04:33] <maxtnk> lysis: thank you that has told
[04:33] <lysis> borisattva, go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com and search for pureftp
[04:33] <skon> borisattva, you need to have proftpd or something like that installed
[04:33] <borisattva> i alredya have an ftp server its off a hosting compnay i use. i have set up the name and credentials. same as all the other tiem. dialogue is very basic as you know.. but some thing is different
[04:33] <ray_> how do i unpack a .tgz file? newbie here...
[04:33] <lysis> borisattva, i prefer the pureftp version offered in the wiki.      it takes about 12 minutes to completely configure.  reboot when done so it loads the pure-ftpd
[04:34] <skon> ray_: do tar -xczf file
[04:34] <lysis> borisattva, so you don't want your current pc to HOST an ftp server?
[04:34] <Xeppo> borisattva: You have to have a FTP client installed before you can FTP in.  Install an FTP client.
[04:34] <ray_> thank you
[04:34] <borisattva> thanks. checking synaptic now.. just surpsied that this is the FIRST TIME it didnt work. after aeach reinstall it would work out of the box.
[04:34] <skon> ray_: actually tar -xzf I think
[04:34] <maxtnk> lysis: but other arhitecture this what
[04:34] <killerbird> how much does cedega cost?
[04:34] <Mathais> does anyone know a good wireless card that will work with ubuntu?
[04:34] <skon> ray_, or you can do it in natuilus by right clicking
[04:34] <Xeppo> Lysis: My CD=ROM is valid.
[04:34] <thugren> Hey so how is everyone doing
[04:34] <killerbird> ah man 5 bucks a month
[04:35] <johndarkhorse> killerbird: there is a free version (of money) it's a cvs version (no support)
[04:35] <lysis> maxtnk, i don't understand
[04:35] <skon> Mathais: Belkin FD7010 costs $30
[04:35] <Mathais> ty skon
[04:35] <borisattva> xeppo: i am trying to use ordinalry Pleaces > Connect to server basic ftp that is included.
[04:35] <killerbird> what does cvs stand for?
[04:35] <lysis> Xeppo, i would check the hdd somehow . . . not sure how you can do it.  maybe go to your hard drive mfg website and download one of their tools to test.
[04:35] <ray_> is it tar xvfz source.tgz?
[04:35] <skon> ray_: yes
[04:35] <Xeppo> lysis: I think I'll just try another drive... I've got like 20 of 'em
[04:36] <thugren> mathais, I have prism style on and there is a DLink 650+ i know it works with ubuntu
[04:36] <lysis> Xeppo, i'd recommend that.  definitely test that drive though. =)
[04:36] <ray_> saw instructions elsewhere but needed to double-check
[04:36] <Xeppo> lysis: of course!
[04:36] <thugren> mathais is for a laptop or a desktop?
[04:36] <skon> anyone have problems displaying special characters in the man program? mine get messed up...
[04:36] <david_m_e> ROOT user: can anyone tell me why Ubuntu won't let me login as root (invalid password) ?
[04:36] <borisattva> ok guys i looked into that. thats setting up a SERVER. i'm trying to access one that is alreday set up and configured. i'm merely trying to make a connection to one available on the deksop..
[04:36] <skon> david_m_e, root is disabled by default
[04:37] <skon> ubotu: tell david_m_e about sudo
[04:37] <metrix> My laptop will not allow me to boot off of my cd-rom. Is there a floppy disk that I can have point to my ubuntu live cd somehow?
[04:37] <danielmccauley> did u set the password david_m_e?
[04:37] <borisattva> you know that connected brown folder icon with FTP over it.
[04:37] <thugren> david, you have enable root user
[04:37] <hyphenated> metrix: how old is this laptop?
[04:37] <borisattva> it seemingly was a part of nautilus
[04:37] <david_m_e> is there any good reason (other than that i might screw things up) why it should be disabled?
[04:37] <maxtnk> ubuntu supports all hardware on notebook or no?
[04:37] <hyphenated> david_m_e: because the official way to do things is by using 'sudo'
[04:37] <skon> david_m_e, security, safety
[04:37] <lysis> ubotu, tell david_m_e about root
[04:38] <metrix> hyphenated it's not that old, it's an athlon 4 1ghz! it's an hp and is having a hard time accessing the cd as a boot device
[04:38] <david_m_e> danielmccauley as far as i can remember, when i installed Ubuntu, it never asked me what password root should have
[04:38] <hyphenated> david_m_e: and it 'proves' that you don't need a root account to maintain a box :-)
[04:38] <skon> lysis: already done that
[04:38] <borisattva> max: with luck.. my dell 8100 was fully supported after a rinstall. i'm runnign dapper on it
[04:38] <lysis> david_m_e, my personal relief is the fact that you don't have to worry about ROOT HACKS.
[04:38] <thugren> metrnk,if your on a live cd.. Just shut off your laptop..
[04:38] <hyphenated> metrix: that's a bit weak. have you checked in BIOS to see whether CDROM is a valid boot device?
[04:39] <thugren> There is no harddrive accessed so to you can't do anydamage
[04:39] <kasz> hey guys, i recompiled the kernel on my ubuntu, but when i try to boot it, it goes into a kernel panic and complains that /lib/modules/2.6.10/modules.dep doesn't exist (it does, i checked)
[04:39] <david_m_e> here is my problem with sudo: when i try to use the samba utility 'add user' or even 'list users' it tells me that it couldn't connect to the server (which is the very machine i'm trying i'm working from)
[04:39] <metrix> hyphenated: yes I even set it to boot before the floppy.. it skips it everytime.  I have been able to read cd's off of it through windows so I know it works
[04:39] <maxtnk> this much pleases
[04:39] <david_m_e> in fact, sudo <samba utility> returns no (useful) output
[04:40] <david_m_e> if i'm woried about root hacks, i will just remove the ethernet cable until i'm done
[04:40] <hyphenated> david_m_e: example? I just ran 'sudo smbstatus' and it worked fine
[04:40] <lysis> david_m_e, everything i've needed to do i can do as sudo
[04:41] <david_m_e> i will go reproduce the exact problem and brb... thanks
[04:41] <metrix> hyphenated: I was hoping there was a floppy that I could use just to boot and then point to my cd-rom is there such a thing?
[04:41] <hyphenated> metrix: I don't know of any
[04:41] <hyphenated> david_m_e: put the output into a pastebin
[04:42] <lysis> metrix, i don't think ubuntu has one but i know other distros have made them in the past.
[04:42] <david_m_e> hypenated i don't have a clue what that means (sorry)
[04:42] <lysis> david_m_e, www.pastebin.com i believe.  that way you don't flood the channel with a huge paste.
[04:42] <maxtnk> borisattva:  breezy possible not to put but better wait stable dapper?
[04:42] <metrix> well I thank ya'll for your help. I will look for more information out on the internet! :)
[04:42] <david_m_e> oh, its only 1 or 2 short lines (but thanks tho)
[04:42] <david_m_e> good info
[04:43] <Papoose> ubutu: tell me about xinetd
[04:43] <hyphenated> Papoose: there's an o in there somewhere ;-)
[04:43] <Papoose> :)
[04:44] <maxtnk> when will leave stable dapper?
[04:44] <Cythril> Hey, I'm curious, I've seen lots of screenshots that have a Mac-OS type toolbar on the bottom of the screen, like this:  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/m1/m13548-1.png  How could I set up my Linux to have that type of toolbar?
[04:44] <ianw_> lysis: Sorry. I had to go AFK. World of Wacraft. Cedega. Yah, looked at it, but I know some of the people who run it,  and am not too keen to support them to be honest
[04:44] <rabbit> does anyone know how to mount USB keys???
[04:44] <Papoose> ubotu tell me about xinetd
[04:44] <lysis> ianw_, my understanding is the software can be obtained for free, you just have to pay for the updates.  i could be wrong.  i do know i've found the software and wasn't impressed by it (nothing worked)
[04:44] <irvin> !info xinetd
[04:44] <ubotu> xinetd: (replacement for inetd with many enhancements), section net, is extra. Version: 1:2.3.13-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 127 kB, Installed size: 348 kB
[04:45] <cactii> Could somebody tell me which directory installed programs go in???
[04:45] <borisattva> max: it was there before. i think some of the applications i installed/unintsalled messed it up. but it definietly worked before out of the box. possibly firestarter screwed something up. i'm trying to 'reinstall ' nautilus right now
[04:45] <cactii> please
[04:45] <cactii> I know it is a dumb question...
[04:45] <kasz> hey guys, i recompiled the kernel on my ubuntu, but when i try to boot it, it goes into a kernel panic and complains that /lib/modules/2.6.10/modules.dep doesn't exist (it does, i checked)
[04:45] <hyphenated> cactii: they go into lots of places for different reasons. why?
[04:45] <kasz> any ideas?
[04:45] <lysis> i've gotta get going guys
[04:45] <ianw_> lysis: Well, I did try their trial earlier today, and I couldn't figure out how to install it :( this from a person that has no problems patching wine with various patches on the net, but none of them have worked well :( Still not able to select NPCs or anything :(
[04:45] <lysis> i'll be back later to help more. =)
[04:45] <irvin> cactii: /usr
[04:45] <cactii> hyphenated, I installed a temperature monitoring program and cannot find it :(
[04:46] <hyphenated> cactii: what'd you use to install it?
[04:46] <lysis> ianw_, i don't know what to tell you.  i installed it just fine.  go to www.ubuntuforums.org   i know there was a HOWTO up there somewhere for installing cedega.   i'm taking off though.  i'm sure you'll get it going.  i'll be back in an hour or so
[04:46] <lysis> later guys.
[04:46] <ianw_> thx. laters
[04:46] <cactii> hyphenated, the synaptic package manager...
[04:46] <rabbit> does anyone know how to mount USB keys???
[04:46] <ianw_> ya, followed the howto :( I will keep messing with the code I guess
[04:46] <hyphenated> cactii: great. find the package in the list, and right-click on it
[04:46] <vbgunz> Anyone here have a SONY DVD Handy Cam? If so, do you use Linux to burn your home movies into a format similar to MPG, AVI? I would really appreciate tips on turning my DVD home movies into a smaller format...
[04:47] <abood> guys the downloaded files from xchat where can i find them ?
[04:47] <hyphenated> cactii: choose 'Properties' and you should get a new dialog with tabs on it
[04:47] <hyphenated> one of those tabs is 'Installed Files'
[04:47] <phreak97> is there a linux equivilent to ebay turbolister?
[04:47] <johndarkhorse> vbgunz: transcode, or ffmpeg, or mencoder. dvdauthor
[04:47] <maxtnk> cactii: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelByHandHowto?action=fullsearch&value=linkto%3A%22KernelByHandHowto%22&context=180
[04:47] <Delvien> Anyone have an idea on how to undervolt the CPU ?
[04:48] <abood> guys the downloaded files from xchat where can i find them ??
[04:48] <psusi> Delvien, why do you ask?
[04:48] <david_m_e> hypenated lysis do u remember my question from 10 minutes ago... i can't find the 'smbsh' command (smb shell) - it appears as if its not part of Ubuntu Samba; if it is, its not pathed or named something else; THAT would help me more, i think... still working on reproducing the other problem
[04:48] <cactii> Thanks
[04:48] <Cythril> Anyone know why I when I try to extract a theme tar.gz to /usr/share/themes, the password line is grayed out, but it says "access restricted?"
[04:48] <Delvien> psusi Because i want to undervolt my centrino processor to save battery life, ( like in winblowz )
[04:49] <hyphenated> david_m_e: I've never heard of smbsh :-)
[04:49] <_jason> Cythril, use ~/.themes
[04:49] <Cythril> ?
[04:49] <skon> Cythril, are you trying to install a theme for gnome/
[04:49] <EZgun> meow.
[04:49] <Cythril> Yeah.
[04:49] <timfrost> abood, try ~/.xchat2/downloads
[04:49] <psusi> Delvien, generally that is done automatically to the extent that is safe/possible by the same mechanism that lowers the clock rate
[04:49] <skon> Cythril, open up the Themes window, and drag the file into the window...it'll install automagically
[04:49] <david_m_e> hmm... the official Samba book documents it (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/ch01.html)
[04:49] <Cythril> Oh, okay.
[04:49] <david_m_e> oh well
[04:49] <danielmccauley> can anyone help me configure my airport extreme card in my powerbook?
[04:50] <abood> thx timfrost let me try
[04:50] <maxtnk> danielmccauley: google.com
[04:50] <Delvien> psusi its not native to any OS or distro because not all OS detect the safe running limits of the voltage. IE so many variations of processors 715 720 730 740 745 etc
[04:50] <abood> timfrost, worked ;)
[04:51] <Cythril> Cool, that worked, thanks.
[04:51] <MrPockets> is there a code to update a program?
[04:51] <MrPockets> like Firefox,or GAIM?
[04:51] <skon> MrPockets, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:51] <psusi> Delvien, generally it isn't a good idea to go under what the chip manufacturer says is the minimum... it might appear to work for a while, then you wonder why the system randomly crashes periodically
[04:51] <killerbird> in ubuntu, use sypnapis
[04:51] <Delvien> psusi undervolting my CPU brings it down from 0.986 ( or something near it) to 0.732,
[04:51] <MrPockets> skon, so would it be   sudo apt-get updare GAIM
[04:52] <Delvien> psusi only if you dont know what you are doing
[04:52] <skon> MrPockets, no, just what I typed
[04:52] <kasz> maxtnk, that link doesn't exist
[04:52] <lysis> MrPockets, what are you trying to do?
[04:52] <psusi> Delvien, what is cpufreq setting the voltage to when it is idle?
[04:52] <skon> MrPockets, assuming it's in the repository, it'll update automagically
[04:52] <Delvien> psusi what do i cat?
[04:52] <MrPockets> i have the default version of Firefox that comes with the install
[04:52] <z0rz> How do I run an application on boot up?
[04:52] <lysis> MrPockets, i see update gaim.  if you're trying to get 2.0 it's still beta, therefore it will not be in the repositories.
[04:53] <lysis> z0rz, you go System, Preferences, Sessions.   third tab over
[04:53] <Eleaf> How do I have gtk apps use a theme?
[04:53] <Eleaf> lol
[04:53] <lysis> Eleaf, have you checked the wiki?
[04:53] <Eleaf> In Kde ; )
[04:53] <lysis> ooo i dunno kde sorry buddy.
[04:53] <Eleaf> lysis, or openbox
[04:53] <lysis> i only use gnome.  someday will use e17 when it's stable.
[04:54] <Eleaf> lysis, certainly,  I always search before asking a question.  But it still complains that the theme doesn't exist...
[04:54] <z0rz> lysis I'm using kubuntu .. where's that at?
[04:54] <Eleaf> z0rz, ?
[04:54] <hyphenated> Eleaf: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt might help
[04:54] <killerbird> anyone here installed the cedega time demo before?
[04:54] <z0rz> I don't see Preferences under "System"
[04:54] <lysis> z0rz, sorry; i only know GNOME
[04:54] <hyphenated> Eleaf: #kubuntu might help more ;-)
[04:54] <Eleaf> hyakuhei, hmm.  'What will that do?
[04:55] <Eleaf> hyphenated, like there is ever anybody in there...
[04:55] <irvin> danielmccauley: lookie here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide
[04:55] <DAaaMan64> i can't get kubuntu or ubuntu's install disc to work on my laptop
[04:55] <maxtnk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageHowto
[04:55] <lysis> Eleaf, odd . . .  do you have all of the theming things installed?
[04:55] <Eleaf> hyphenated, I'm not necesarilly using kde anyways... openbox at the moment.
[04:55] <DAaaMan64> it is a gateway m675
[04:55] <hyphenated> Eleaf: it's a magical thing that gets added to your control center to let you make GTK apps look like KDE apps
[04:55] <Eleaf> lysis, I believe so
[04:55] <Eleaf> hyakuhei, I don't have a control center...
[04:55] <DAaaMan64> I get to where I just have to press enter and then nothing happens.
[04:55] <hyphenated> it's for KDE. if you're not using that, then ignore me entirely
[04:55] <frazmanw> u 64 bit and go back to 32 bit. Under 64 bit I can not get my ATI x300 video card to have accelleration. but in 32 bit it is fine. Help!
[04:55] <DAaaMan64> does anyone know what is going on?????
[04:57] <lysis> hey, what can i use on GDM to make it look super sweet?  kickass effects and all that.    no offense . . . but this human theme's GOT to go. =)
[04:57] <thev> ok, sorry I had to take off for a bit, so I missed the answer to my Q.
[04:57] <thev> can I install breezy from dapper?
[04:57] <_jason> Is it possible for me to not allow sudo to be used remotely?
[04:57] <cafuego> lysis: Install a different theme, ot make one.
[04:57] <cafuego> thev: Still no.
[04:57] <thev> crappy
[04:57] <nvez> night.
[04:57] <Eleaf> lysis, I have a nice gdm theme.  ; )  It's pretty.
[04:57] <newuserlaptop> how do I make a disk accessable in disk manager. sys>admin>disk
[04:57] <Davey`> thev: well, there's a reason !dapper says what it says.
[04:57] <lysis> cafuego, i'd like dashboards and embedded objects and shadows and invisible effects.
[04:57] <Davey`> !tell thev about dapper
[04:58] <hyphenated> _jason: in theory, it looks like that's possible. you'll need to search on google for an example I expect.
[04:58] <Davey`> So what is being added in Dapper?
[04:58] <cafuego> lysis: Oh, crashy features...
[04:58] <Davey`> new version of Gnome?
[04:58] <thev> yeah I know it's alpha, but nothing else will install
[04:58] <thev> I tried downloading and burning from different places
[04:58] <_jason> hyphenated, I've searched and found mention of it but no example.  i was hoping someone had done it here, but I'll keep searching
[04:58] <cafuego> lysis: in gdm? Why?
[04:58] <lysis> cafuego, precisely!  i want the linux equivalent to vista.   yes yes i know, fluff and obnoxiousness.  but it's what i personally want.
[04:58] <skon> Can someone help me mount a usb disk with 2 partitions as r/w? I'm having some permissions errors
[04:59] <hyphenated> _jason: I've never tried. sorry
[04:59] <Davey`> thev: well you have two options, reformat/re-install over Dapper (the latter is a bad idea) or you just have to wait till Dapper gets better.
[04:59] <_jason> hyphenated, any idea what it might involve so I can focus my search?
[04:59] <lysis> cafuego, what do you recommend?   i use gdm because it's what ubuntu came with, i feel it works fine.  it uses my volume wheel on the keyboard and my ATi remote works.
[04:59] <Xoritor> ok, how do i get the "latest and greatest" nvidia driver to install correctly?
[04:59] <trappist> is there a right way to have a command run at bootup as root?
[04:59] <hyphenated> there's an example in the manpage, but it's not all that friendly
[04:59] <Kyral> use Dapper
[04:59] <lysis> that stuff doesn't work with kubuntu-desktop
[04:59] <thev> reinstall what over dapper, though?
[04:59] <cafuego> lysis: I think you mean 'Gnome' when you say 'gdm'.
[04:59] <thev> unless I go with a different distro
[04:59] <lysis> cafuego, gnome desktop manager.
[04:59] <lysis> gdm.
[05:00] <lysis> just like kubuntu-desktop is kdm.
[05:00] <cafuego> lysis: gdm is the login screen.
[05:00] <Torvitas> !list
[05:00] <ubotu> methinks list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:00] <DAaaMan64> can you install ubuntu from the internet?
[05:00] <cafuego> lysis: There's not much point in candying up the login window, as you don't generally stare at it for hours.
[05:00] <bimberi> trappist: add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[05:00] <Xoritor> oh and the issue i had was that the kernel was compiled with gcc 3.x and my gcc (from apt-get) is 4.x
[05:00] <lysis> cafuego, i stare at login for days . . .     ok well sorry for getting the names mixed up.  i want eye candy through the desktop.
[05:01] <trappist> bimberi: that's what I've been doing.  seems a bit hackish, bit if that's the officially sanctioned way, cool
[05:01] <lysis> i assumed GDM meant gnome desktop manager.  not GLogin DscreenM
[05:01] <Xoritor> Gnome Display Mangater
[05:01] <Xoritor> but close
[05:01] <Xoritor> err
[05:01] <Xoritor> s/Mangater/Manager
[05:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mangater?
[05:01] <lysis> Xoritor, at least i didn't think it meant login screen!  lol
[05:02] <bimberi> trappist: i don't think i qualify as an official sanctioner :P  but that's the way as i understand it
[05:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Scaly, bipedal, with a giant mouth and crazy long teeth?
[05:02] <lysis> =P   but back to the real question at hand . . .       i want candy! =P
[05:02] <Delvien> psusi seems voltage readings are not in the box, for ubuntu
[05:02] <house_> hi everyone
[05:02] <mathew> thats not a question.
[05:02] <bimberi> DAaaMan64: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation includes some "advanced" install methods
[05:02] <house_> anyone using dapper?
[05:02] <newuserlaptop> i tried to mount windows, nothing shows. gpart shows /dev/hda1 as ntfs but fdisk shows /dev/hda1 as linux. help
[05:02] <borisattva> house_: here
[05:03] <_jason> hyphenated, yeah I'm seeing some stuff that may be relevant in sudoers.  I think I'll create a new user and play with it.  Thanks
[05:03] <cafuego> lysis: I'd avoid drop shadows and transparency, they cause memory leaks & crashing. Apart from that, run whatever you like, use whatever theme you like. Check out gdesklets and art.gnome.org
[05:03] <house_> borisattva: does your add applications menu work?
[05:03] <trappist> if I get elected dictator of ubuntu, I'll see to it that there's a /etc/boot.d where you put arbitrary scripts to be run at boot time
[05:03] <borisattva> yep. i added gnucash earlier.. whats happenign in your case?
[05:03] <hyphenated> _jason: it looks complex tho, hey ;-) keep a root shell open incase you screw it up, and good luck!
[05:03] <cafuego> trappist: Is there any particular reason why you can't do that NOW with run-parts?
[05:03] <_jason> hyphenated, ha yeah, let's hope not :P
[05:04] <trappist> cafuego: yes.  namely, I don't know what that is.
[05:04] <house_> hyphenated: when i ran it from the terminal it said something about no software module  or something
[05:04] <lysis> cafuego, what if i would like to at least try out drop shadows and transparency?  where do i go to try it for gnome?
[05:04] <tafsen> Why can I play mp3 files in BMP but not in Rhythmbox?
[05:04] <cafuego> lysis: You need to enable that in xorg, not Gnome.
[05:04] <house_> borisattva: also what version of java did dapper give you?
[05:04] <cafuego> lysis: Check the docs for xcompmgr, I think.
[05:04] <lysis> ahhh      in the wiki?
[05:04] <Kyral> tafsen: because BMP has its own legal version of the MP3 encoder
[05:05] <borisattva> house_: booting it up now to check
[05:05] <MrDez> tafsen: just install/use xmms
[05:05] <tafsen> Kyral, How can I get mp3's to work in Rhythmbox?
[05:05] <Delvien> They break dapper yet?
[05:05] <trappist> cafuego: what's run-parts
[05:05] <DAaaMan64> bimberi, thanks for the response, I think it can help.
[05:05] <borisattva> i would guess the generic one. as they cant include sun java coz of licensing
[05:05] <Kyral> tafsen: w32codecs
[05:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !mp3
[05:05] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:05] <bimberi> tafsen: you probably need to install the gstreamer plugins - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:05] <Eleaf> hi cafuego
[05:05] <ray_> i recently saw this article on digg.com "http://blog.hypexr.org/?p=105" and i've run into some trouble when i type "ruport -v"
[05:05] <bimberi> DAaaMan64: np :)
[05:06] <tafsen> Kyral, w32codecs are installed
[05:06] <cafuego> trappist: You familiar with the command 'man' ?
[05:06] <tafsen> bimberi I'l try that
[05:06] <lysis> ubotu, tell tafsen about restricted formats
[05:06] <lysis> tafsen, go to that page on the wiki and follow all directions. that will get it working.  and more.
[05:06] <zodd> im having trouble compiling stuff with my fresh install... have gcc 4 installed but dont know what more packages i need?
[05:07] <trappist> cafuego: had no idea it was a command (run-parts I mean)
[05:07] <bimberi> zodd: build-essential
[05:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> zodd: Did you install the 'build-essential' package?
[05:07] <cafuego> trappist: cron uses it lots, stuff like logrotate does too, I think.
[05:07] <cello_rasp> are there any text editors that support regex-based replace and find?
[05:07] <ray_> here's what i end up getting as an error message:
[05:07] <ray_> ray@ubuntu:~/rubygems-0.8.11$ ruport -v
[05:07] <ray_> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/ruport-0.2.9/lib/ruport/report/fake_engine.rb:12: uninitialized constant Ruport::Report::Engine (NameError)
[05:08] <borisattva> house_: gnu java
[05:08] <cafuego> trappist: So basically, drop a custom script in /etc/rc2.d/ that calls run-parts /etc/rc.boot
[05:08] <cafuego> trappist: amnd dump any scripts there
[05:08] <trappist> cafuego: no need, I just noticed /etc/init.d/rcS does a run-parts /etc/rc.boot :)
[05:08] <Cythril> uboto, tell me about fonts
[05:08] <sam_> hi, i'm a ubuntu newbie and linux newbie. i have a hardeware question. would anyone like to help me?
[05:09] <borisattva> house_:4.0.3 "1.4.2"
[05:09] <ray_> does anyone here know about installing ruby on rails?
[05:09] <Cythril> ubotu, tell me about fonts
[05:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sam_: Sure - what's the question?
[05:09] <cafuego> !rails
[05:09] <ubotu> cafuego: Are you on ritalin?
[05:09] <trappist> sam_: since you're an irc newbie too, I'll point out real friendly-like that you have to ask a question to have it answered :)
[05:09] <cafuego> ubotu: yes
[05:09] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, cafuego?
[05:09] <cafuego> !listvals rails
[05:09] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'rails' by value returned no results.
[05:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ubotu: no
[05:09] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[05:09] <house_> borisattva: k i'm getting this error about the add applications thing        No module named SoftwareProperties
[05:09] <Kyral> Stop playing with the Bot
[05:09] <trappist> ray_: get the source of rubygems and sudo gem install rails
[05:10] <ray_> done that
[05:10] <trappist> ray_: so, what's your question?
[05:10] <sam_> sorry, i got a call
[05:10] <ray_> following that guide i gave the url to, it says to install ruport, so i did
[05:10] <ray_> then it says to type "ruport -v"
[05:10] <zodd> it works! thanks for the help
[05:10] <ray_> that's when things break down
[05:10] <borisattva> hmm no errors on that laptop install.. my dekstop on the other hand.. load of probelms nautilus.. drives.. etc.. must be something in the hardware profile
[05:11] <trappist> ray_: I never heard of ruport, and I've installed rails dozens of times.  what's your question?
[05:11] <sam_> sorry, i'm back
[05:11] <borisattva> try making a post in development section of ubuntuforums.org maybe someone knows a fix
[05:11] <ray_> do i really need ruport?
[05:11] <Xoritor> so can anyone tell me if there is a kernel compiled with gcc 4?
[05:11] <house_> ok
[05:11] <ray_> i've never heard of it either
[05:11] <trappist> ray_: if that's your question, I think it's safe to say the answer is no.
[05:11] <Octane> anyone know why im gettign this error when trying to make a backup of my files... "cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/backup/share/apps/kmail/mail/.Archives.directory/.Freelance.directory/Essential DownUnder/cur/1120022980.000022.mbox:2,S': Invalid argument"
[05:11] <sam_> i have a driverless raid card. works in mandriva, but not ubuntu
[05:11] <Octane> of my  kmail that is
[05:11] <tman_ubuntu> Hey guys, I'm having trouble with class paths using java.  Can anyone help?
[05:12] <ray_> how do i make sure mysql is installed?
[05:12] <sam_> is there way to start it in ubuntu
[05:12] <trappist> Octane: how exactly are you trying to backup?
[05:12] <Octane> trappist: cp -r x uy
[05:12] <Octane> trappist: cp -r x y
[05:12] <Octane> trappist: from ext3 to fat32
[05:12] <cafuego> sam_: What card would that be?
[05:12] <trappist> Octane: try -R
[05:12] <sam_> revo64
[05:12] <Octane> trappist: same error
[05:13] <_jason> Octane, paste the actual command pls
[05:13] <sam_> 5 port SATA PCI card
[05:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Octane: cp -R -x -y ?
[05:13] <Octane> _jason: sudo cp -R share/ /mnt/backup/
[05:13] <sam_> made by netcell
[05:13] <Octane> PuMpErNiCkLe: x being folder y being destination :)
[05:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Octane: nvm :)
[05:13] <trappist> Octane: in that case, try tar zcf kmail.tar.gz /kmail/dir and put the tarball on the fat32 partition.  fat32 doesn't like, and won't preserve, your unix file permissions
[05:13] <sam_> no drivers needed
[05:13] <Octane> trappist: you are a genius, i didnt even think of that
[05:13] <Octane> duh
[05:14] <trappist> :)
[05:14] <Octane> i dont wanan preserve file permissions since this is for windows, so ill zip
[05:14] <ITSa341> Anyone here run AOL 8 or 9 in Ubuntu?
[05:14] <cafuego> I'm afraid you're going to need either sata, ide or scsi drivers to support that card.
[05:15] <trappist> ITSa341: not likely.  aol is not especially popular among linux folk.
[05:15] <sam_> it's chipless by design
[05:15] <sam_> i mean driverless
[05:15] <sam_> stoned
[05:15] <cafuego> sam_: That's the amrketing speak, yes.
[05:15] <nicholaspaul> I have a Q about Airport Extreme... I'm using a new Dapper install, and it recognises the Aiport, but doesnt connect. Should i use the bcm43xx ddrivers instead?
[05:15] <cafuego> sam_: But the kernel won't be chatting with it unless it knows how, which is what the driver does.
[05:15] <tman_ubuntu> Trying to figure out Java CLASSPATHS, can someone help?
[05:15] <cafuego> So mandriva would have the support built-in, i expect.
[05:16] <ITSa341> trappist:  I had the AOL linux version and it was fine for the 6 hours between leaking itand blocking it.
[05:16] <sam_> it emulate IDE drivers somehow
[05:16] <cafuego> sam_: Then it would emulate a SPECIFIC ide driver.
[05:17] <sam_> they have a fedora core 2 patch on their website
[05:17] <sam_> and instructs on how to rebuild the kernel
[05:17] <cafuego> So it DOERS in fact need drivers then?
[05:18] <sam_> no becuase there are no drivers for wonows or mac
[05:18] <NanoBCN> Hi people. A simple question. I want /var/www to poit to /media/work/www. What should I add to fstab?
[05:18] <cafuego> That just means they're built-in.
[05:19] <sam_> and like i said, worked on mandriva. maybe mandriva uses a newer kernel?
[05:19] <cafuego> NanoBCN: bind mount? Or just symlink it (or edit the apache cfg file)
[05:19] <cafuego> sam_: That's possible. Know which version?
[05:19] <trappist> sam_: maybe mandriva has the driver built into the kernel and ubuntu has it in a module, awaiting a modprobe
[05:19] <sam_> kernel for mandriva 2006?
[05:20] <vb_coder> god whats up
[05:20] <NanoBCN> cafuego, exactly, I don't want to edit the apache cfg, I think I want bind mount, shouldn't I do it via fstab?
[05:20] <cafuego> sam_: yeah. I use ubuntu, so I wouldn't know what mandriva uses.
[05:20] <god> not much
[05:20] <Xoritor> so why is the kernel compiled with 3.4 when the RELASE NOTES say  GCC 4.0.1
[05:20] <sam_> thats sounds likely. can i easlily get that mod probe kernel
[05:20] <cafuego> NanoBCN: /new/mountpint /old mountpoint bind 0 0
[05:20] <Xoritor> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseNotes#head-10960a6c7a74d476e99bfa6e7a8db8afb5a3f472
[05:20] <trappist> NanoBCN: get rid of /var/www and sudo ln -s /media/work/www /var/www
[05:21] <thugren> mandriva is just the mandrake with a different name to it
[05:21] <cafuego> thugren: Yes, a far more unfortunate name <heh>
[05:21] <NanoBCN> NanoBCN, you would recommend me to do so instead of mounting?
[05:21] <trappist> sam_: you would just have to identify the driver and say 'sudo modprobe drivername'
[05:21] <_jason> Xoritor, because it has gcc4.01?
[05:21] <NanoBCN> trappist, you would recommend me to do so instead of mounting?
[05:21] <thugren> cafuego is this so true.
[05:22] <Xoritor> _jason, then why is the kernel compiled with gcc 3.4?
[05:22] <cafuego> NanoBCN: You cna, but make sure that FollowSymlinks is then set in the apache cfg.
[05:22] <sam_> the driver from the raid card site?
[05:22] <trappist> NanoBCN: yeah, no kernel black magic is needed for a symlink.  it's just filesystem magic and uses no additional resources whatsoever.  not so with a mount.
[05:22] <_jason> Xoritor, I don't know the technical reasons for why they chose to compile it with 3.4
[05:22] <NanoBCN> trappist, ok, thanks a lot
[05:22] <thugren> cafuego, So have you try the mandriva?
[05:23] <Xoritor> i dont think its too much to ask for a disto to compile the kernel with the gcc they ship
[05:23] <cafuego> thugren: Nope
[05:23] <SatanLvsU2> anyone feel like helping me to install htop?
[05:23] <cafuego> Xoritor: gcc 4.0 didn't produce stable kernels.
[05:23] <trappist> Xoritor: I feel ya dog.  at least it's better than my last experience with debian, where they didn't even make *available* the gcc used to compile the shipped kernel.
[05:24] <trappist> Xoritor: ubuntu, happily, does.
[05:24] <Cythril> Where does Ubuntu install programs?
[05:24] <thugren> cafuego, I have downloaded it.. Just haven't wanted to install it
[05:24] <trappist> Cythril: all over the place
[05:24] <cafuego> Cythril: Usually into /usr/bin
[05:24] <Xoritor> trappist, then where/how do i get it?
[05:24] <trappist> Cythril: programs have many parts, and different parts have their standard locations
[05:24] <Cythril> Is there a find command or something?  I'm trying to install an XMMS skin.
[05:24] <trappist> Xoritor: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[05:24] <Xoritor> trappist, thx... ill give that a shot
[05:24] <nicholaspaul> Easy Q: can someone please remind me what i need to install to get 'make' working?
[05:25] <trappist> Cythril: you installed a package containing this skin?
[05:25] <timfrost> nicholaspaul, build-essential
[05:25] <trappist> nicholaspaul: build-essential
[05:25] <Cythril> I downloaded the skin from the internet.
[05:25] <cafuego> nicholaspaul: 'make' itself. if you wanted gcc to also work, maybe try 'build-essential'.
[05:25] <nicholaspaul> timfrost: trappist Great - thanks guys!
[05:25] <nicholaspaul> cafuego: cheers!
[05:25] <trappist> Cythril: then ubuntu didn't put it anywhere.  you just need to find where you downloaded it to
[05:25] <MrDez> cythril: just copy the skin to /home/username/.xmms/Skins/skinname/folder/skin.zip
[05:25] <Cythril> Alright, thanks.
[05:26] <sam_> anymore ideas on configuring this raid card to work with ubuntu
[05:26] <MrDez> sam: motherboard onboard raid?
[05:26] <SatanLvsU2> has anyone here used or installed htop?
[05:26] <trappist> sam_: I bet google knows a thing or two about it.  it's probably just a matter of identifying the driver and modprobing it.
[05:27] <sam_> pci xfx revo64
[05:27] <trappist> sam_: I'm not google
[05:27] <sam_> i didn't say you were
[05:27] <SatanLvsU2> nm, it's a package now it seems.
[05:28] <sam_> where do i a driver from
[05:28] <sam_> and how do i modprobe it
[05:28] <skon> anyone konw what the /srv folder is for?
[05:28] <trappist> sam_: step 1) identify the driver.  google can probably help with that.  step 2) sudo modprobe drivername
[05:28] <sam_> the company does have a patch for the fedore 2 kernel
[05:29] <sam_> the card is driverless
[05:29] <sam_> it
[05:29] <sam_> it'a hardware raid
[05:29] <bluefoxicy> oh god
[05:29] <trappist> sam_: even hardware raid cards require drivers.  ask google which one this card needs.
[05:29] <bluefoxicy> this so belongs in the fortunes file
[05:30] <bluefoxicy> "I just build things.  I don't make assesments and promises."  -- Theo de Raadt
[05:30] <Xenguy> smith will suffice =)
[05:30] <MrDez> sam: im reading some info on it
[05:32] <sam_> it's made by netcell
[05:32] <sam_> they don't have drivers on there site
[05:33] <mwill> I've got apache running on my Ubuntu laptop, with my router forwarding port 80 to its ip. I've got all the security on my router off, and nobody outside my router is getting to my webserver. Ideas?
[05:33] <mwill> I cant find any refernce to incoming/blocked IPs in either my router's logs or apache's logs.
[05:34] <trappist> sam_: they do, in the form of a patch
[05:34] <MrDez> sam: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1516471&Tab=11&NoMapp=0
[05:34] <MrDez> see customer reviews
[05:34] <MrDez> someone got it working with SuSE linux, using kernel  <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:35] <sam_> i got it working on mandriav 2006
[05:35] <MrDez> ya u just need to change your kernel
[05:35] <trappist> sam_: the drivers are built into kernel 2.6.12 and up.  breezy's kernel isn't *really* 2.6.12.  so you need to either patch and rebuild, or upgrade your kernel, possibly from a dapper repository.
[05:35] <trappist> sam_: google told me all this, and would have told you, if you'd asked.
[05:36] <Xenguy> smith will suffice =)
[05:36] <trappist> Xenguy: stfu.
[05:36] <Xenguy> trappist: oh my
[05:36] <MrDez> trapp: exactly, jsut the card name and 'linux driver' took me less than a minute
[05:37] <sam_> wow, i've battling with this for a 2 days
[05:37] <MrDez> ew, that xfx raid card is an ata100 raid card with an sata bridge built onto it
[05:38] <sam_> i updated to kernel 2.6.12 and didn't work
[05:38] <MrDez> sam: use 2.6.13.x
[05:38] <Noundi> I'm trying to install 5.10 but I keep getting stuck on the grub install, even though it has worked before.
[05:38] <MrDez> it obviously works that .13.x
[05:38] <slashx1896> hey all
[05:38] <sam_> where can i find that kernel
[05:39] <MrDez> noundi: could be a drive mbr problem
[05:39] <majd> what was the sudo comman to be able to copy files to var/www/ ?
[05:39] <majd> *command
[05:39] <MrDez> sam: use google
[05:39] <Noundi> Mr-Falkor: MrDez, yeah it could be but I can install lilo.
[05:39] <Noundi> Whoops
[05:40] <Xoritor> trappist, thank you... that worked great
[05:40] <MrDez> noundi: weird, ive had problems in the past with grub but never with ub 5.10
[05:40] <MrDez> unless it was a problem with the drive
[05:40] <MrDez> is it at least a 20gig drive?
[05:40] <Noundi> 120gig
[05:40] <W3BMAST3R101> Yo. Could some one tell me how i can move all of my local packages into the apt-proxy directory / database?
[05:40] <Noundi> MrDez: I have no problems installing slack with lilo.
[05:41] <MrDez> ever had winXP or win2k server on it?
[05:41] <trappist> Noundi: what filesystem is the partition with /boot
[05:41] <Noundi> ext3
[05:41] <Noundi> MrDez: Yes, a long time ago.
[05:41] <MrDez> try wiping it out using qtparted (if its a wipable drive)
[05:41] <trappist> Noundi: never had that problem with ext3, but it happens to me with xfs
[05:41] <sam_> i can't seem to find a repository for that kernel?
[05:42] <slashx1896> normmally i have a wireless conection on my computer thats running ubuntu.. but now i need to make a direct connection since my router fried.. only 1 computer can have internet right now.. which is the laptop but i wanna make adirect connection my unbutu computer so i can have internet there
[05:42] <slashx1896> so can someone help me on making a direct connection?
[05:43] <slashx1896> i have the wireless conection set up.. but my router fried so i need to make a direct
[05:43] <trappist> sam_: there is no breezy repository for the kernel you need.  you need a dapper kernel, or you can roll your own.
[05:43] <trappist> slashx1896: what do you mean by direct
[05:43] <majd> what was the sudo comman to be able to copy files to var/www/ ?
[05:43] <slashx1896> modem to computer
[05:43] <majd> *command
[05:43] <Noundi> MrDez: Alright, I think UBCD has qparted, I'll boot with it and try it.
[05:44] <MrDez> ah
[05:44] <MrDez> ubcd has dos based drive wipers too
[05:44] <poningru> majd: what do you mean?
[05:44] <MrDez> cant remember which menu its under, but it has an mbr wiper which is what u probably need
[05:44] <sam_> so i download the kernel and do what with it?
[05:44] <poningru> just sudo cp /blah/blah /var/www
[05:44] <slashx1896> trappist: normmaly i have modem to router an router to computer wirelessly, but now i wanna make a connection on my computer so i can connect through moden to computer..
[05:44] <majd> poningru,  i just installed php and i can't paste stuff in
[05:44] <majd> ok i'll try
[05:44] <MrDez> sam: look thru the wiki for kernel upgrade hotwo
[05:44] <MrDez> howto
[05:44] <slashx1896> i hooked up all the cords but i couldnt get on the internet
[05:45] <Noundi> MrDez: Yeah I did a fdisk /mbr with it just to get rid of lilo, but it still didn't work, I'll try qparted.
[05:45] <MrDez> fdisk /mbr didnt kill lilo?
[05:45] <Noundi> It did
[05:45] <trappist> slashx1896: to *what* computer.  I still don't know what you're trying to accomplish.
[05:45] <Noundi> But grub still get's stuck
[05:45] <MrDez> ah
[05:45] <slashx1896> ok
[05:45] <Noundi> Thing is, I think it gets stuck on the install.
[05:45] <MrDez> strange
[05:45] <Noundi> Not on the mbr writing.
[05:45] <poningru> slashx1896: what protocol does your modem use?
[05:45] <MrDez> thats always frustrating
[05:45] <poningru> to communicate with your router
[05:46] <MrDez> just kill the whole drive with qtparted and start fresh with the 5.10 install
[05:46] <Xoritor> ok, next
[05:46] <Noundi> Yup, I'll try that.
[05:46] <slashx1896> trappist: i have 2 computers. 1 a desktop and 2 a laptop... the desktop is runing unbuntu and the lap is runnign windows
[05:46] <MrDez> are u using server only install or full?
[05:46] <Noundi> Full
[05:46] <slashx1896> poningru, my router fried so rite now i dont have a router
[05:46] <Xoritor> how do i add another session into gdm (enligtenment) in this case
[05:46] <poningru> slashx1896: I know but what does it usually use?
[05:46] <slashx1896> trappist: when i hooked up my modem to my computer so i can have internet on ubuntu it wouldnt let me on the internet..
[05:46] <MrDez> only other thing id suggest is writing another disc, perhaps a problem wiht the grub files written to disc
[05:46] <slashx1896> poningru, not sure
[05:47] <poningru> slashx1896: the most common thing to do is just plug it in to your modem and restart the computer
[05:47] <Noundi> MrDez: yeah I was kind of hoping to get it working on this drive.
[05:47] <slashx1896> tried it
[05:47] <MrDez> i installed ubuntu on an old damaged drive for someone earlier tonight and didnt have trouble even with the bad drive (luck)
[05:47] <_jason> Xoritor, system tools -> new login in standard gnome, I think it would be the same for enlightment?
[05:47] <MrDez> noundi: i mean writing another ub install cd
[05:47] <slashx1896> what i found out was undernetworking its reading my ip address as my routers ip. not the computers ip
[05:47] <sam_> searched for "update kernel" on wiki and found nothing
[05:47] <Noundi> MrDez did that too, have 2 different.
[05:47] <poningru> slashx1896: then turn off your modem do the same to your comp wait for like 15 mins and restart both
[05:48] <MrDez> sonofa...
[05:48] <poningru> slashx1896: that should be enough
[05:48] <MrDez> heh
[05:48] <MrDez> grub is being bastardly then
[05:48] <poningru> sam_: what are you trying to do?
[05:48] <slashx1896> when i go to system>admin>networking>hosts> thats what it says
[05:48] <MrDez> qtparted should do it
[05:48] <slashx1896> poningru: i tryed it didnt work
[05:48] <Noundi> MrDez: Probably, I'll try it, wish me luck.
[05:48] <slashx1896> its trying to connect with my routers ip i think.
[05:48] <poningru> slashx1896: what is? your computer or your modem?
[05:49] <MrDez> good luck
[05:49] <Xoritor> _jason, no... i dont want to switch or login again, i want to add a "session" to gdm so i can select englightenment instead of gnome
[05:49] <slashx1896> computer
[05:49] <phiber-optic> does anyone know why everytime I reboot to Windblows my clock is in the wrong time?
[05:49] <poningru> oh
[05:49] <DAaaMan64> has anyone used the instlux to install ubuntu? I don't know how to use it!  It makes not sense, you install it then it prompts a restart, do it and then it wants to uninstall itself.
[05:49] <DAaaMan64> My laptop won't boot the ubuntu cd
[05:49] <Crewz> slashx1896, some cable modems, need a reset to forget MAC address from previous routers or previous nic cards connected to em, or simply unplugging it for 30 minutes, will reset it
[05:49] <trappist> phiber-optic: linux is probably syncing your hardware clock to the system time
[05:49] <MrDez> slash: first, never wait 15 mins, what 3-5 mins at most, 15 mins is what ISP tech support tells u to get u off the phone. ;)
[05:50] <phiber-optic> yeah I think is that
[05:50] <slashx1896> crewz, tryed
[05:50] <phiber-optic> how can I change that?
[05:50] <slashx1896> under networking what connection do ii use when im directly connected cable-modem-computer, ethernet connection?
[05:50] <poningru> MrDez: hehe so true
[05:51] <poningru> MrDez: but the sad thing is many people hear 15 mins and wait 5 mins
[05:51] <MrDez> slash: open terminal and type 'sudo pico /etc/network/interfaces' and find the line that starts iface eth0 and paste it
[05:51] <poningru> they hear 5 mins and wait like 1 min
[05:51] <_jason> Xoritor, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97199&highlight=enlightment
[05:51] <MrDez> poning: ive worked for AOL and local ISPs, so I definitely know the drill ;)
[05:51] <DAaaMan64> damn, I guess I will just give up.  Stupid thing.
[05:51] <phiber-optic> trappis do you know how can I change it?
[05:52] <slashx1896> mrdez, k
[05:52] <poningru> DAaaMan64: whats wrong?
[05:52] <poningru> oh
[05:52] <DAaaMan64> the unbuntu or kubuntu cd will not work
[05:52] <thugren> hey will I am off later erveryone
[05:52] <trappist> phiber-optic: sudo update-rc.d -f hwclock.sh remove
[05:52] <poningru> do other cds boot?
[05:52] <Xoritor> _jason, thank you that gives me what i need
[05:52] <DAaaMan64> when it boots, then I press enter, nother happens.
[05:52] <phiber-optic> thanx trappist
[05:53] <DAaaMan64> suse will isntall but it doesn't run right.
[05:53] <_jason> Xoritor, np
[05:53] <MrDez> slas: didnt finish line, 'paste it to chan'
[05:53] <DAaaMan64> mepis will install but doesn't have very good support yet.
[05:53] <slashx1896> mrdez, iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:53] <slashx1896> ?
[05:53] <slashx1896> that?
[05:53] <MrDez> well then
[05:53] <MrDez> ur configured for dhcp
[05:53] <DAaaMan64> and it seems like apt doesn't work well on mepis.
[05:53] <MrDez> restart router
[05:53] <slashx1896> u mean modem?.
[05:53] <slashx1896> i dont have a router
[05:53] <MrDez> er
[05:53] <DAaaMan64> so i wan't kubuntu or ubuntu but it isn't happening.
[05:53] <MrDez> ah
[05:53] <phiber-optic> trappist what if I want to have it back?
[05:53] <slashx1896> myne fried..
[05:53] <interfear> hi all.. anyone here running 5.10 w/ a 6600gt pcie?
[05:53] <MrDez> what kind of modem
[05:53] <MrDez> speedstream?
[05:54] <trappist> phiber-optic: man update-rc.d
[05:54] <slashx1896> no
[05:54] <slashx1896> mottrolla from comcast
[05:54] <MrDez> ah
[05:54] <MrDez> uh
[05:54] <MrDez> hmm
[05:54] <phiber-optic> I would type man update-rc.d??
[05:54] <MrDez> i have comcast too
[05:54] <MrDez> motorola with one LAN port?
[05:54] <Zatoichi> aynone got cups to work on breezy.   U mag wel 'je' zeggen, hoor.
[05:55] <DAaaMan64> I figured it was the burn but I tried both ubuntu and kubuntu with same result.
[05:55] <MrDez> !yourmom
[05:55] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, MrDez
[05:55] <slashx1896> if i hook it to my ubuntu box, i still ccant get internet on ubuntu.. i have it all hookedup andconnected but it says google can not be found or w/e
[05:56] <slashx1896> mrdez, yeah
[05:56] <slashx1896> my router fried and i dont get a new one for a week. so i want internet on my ubuntu system without a router
[05:56] <Vashypooh> have you checked Apps > System Tools > Network Tools?
[05:56] <Vashypooh> see if comcasts DHCP is working?
[05:56] <slashx1896> what do u want me to check there
[05:56] <DAaaMan64> any ideas poningru??
[05:57] <Vashypooh> whats with all the PuMpErNi1kLe
[05:57] <poningru> DAaaMan64: you sure you got the correct architecture?
[05:57] <DAaaMan64> I am probably screwed, I tried intlux but it doesn't make any sense, I don't know how use the software.
[05:57] <poningru> like are you trying to load x86 on a mac?
[05:57] <slashx1896> the ethernet connection is, enabled and configuration : DHCP
[05:57] <poningru> or a mac cd on a x86?
[05:57] <DAaaMan64> yeah it is right,
[05:57] <Vashypooh> But Ubuntu isnt seeing it?
[05:58] <DAaaMan64> it says i386 in the files on the cd anyway.
[05:58] <poningru> DAaaMan64: I dont know what to tell you dude
[05:58] <poningru> right
[05:58] <poningru> what proc do you have?
[05:58] <Steil> anyone have any luck getting the bcm43xx drivers to work?
[05:58] <poningru> like what kind of computer
[05:58] <slashx1896> not sure when i connect the ethernet cable from my modem to my ubuntu box and try to go on the internet it says <webpage> can not be fond
[05:58] <DAaaMan64> p4 3.06
[05:58] <Linfanguin> how to enable java on firefox? im trying to watch the new intel ad
[05:58] <DAaaMan64> gateway m675
[05:58] <johndarkhorse> Steil: yes, quite a few folks have
[05:58] <poningru> DAaaMan64: hold on
[05:58] <friendofface> how do i install a 5port usb pci card in ubuntu?
[05:58] <DAaaMan64> nice laptop but has been real mean to linux.
[05:58] <Steil> hmm
[05:59] <Steil> guess I'm unlucky, my system hardlocks when trying to use it
[05:59] <DShepherd> ubotu tell Linfanguin about java
[05:59] <MrDez> slash: one sec
[05:59] <parisi> My god, Dapper is quite speedy on my old 1.7 Intel.
[06:00] <friendofface> prolly just need jre
[06:00] <DShepherd> parisi: nice
[06:00] <slashx1896> vashypooh, system>admin>networking>hosts> has IP = my routers ip
[06:00] <Parisi> It beats 5.10 all the way!
[06:00] <slashx1896> mrdez, k
[06:00] <Parisi> Its so responsive i am not joking.
[06:00] <DShepherd> parisi: any other changes you would like to tell about?
[06:00] <MrDez> slash: try connecting the box and ping <IP_ADDRESS> (a google.com ip)
[06:00] <slashx1896> my old routers ip* the one that fried
[06:00] <DShepherd> parisi: nice!!
[06:00] <Parisi> Its actually more responsive then this same box running XP
[06:00] <Parisi> And thats says quite alot.
[06:00] <slashx1896> mrdez, ok imn gonna get disconnected here
[06:00] <slashx1896> but il be back
[06:01] <Parisi> gnome just feels so much lighter.
[06:01] <MrDez> if thats successful, its dns server settings from dhcp (i wasnt getting dns from dhcp to my router for a while here)
[06:01] <DShepherd> parisi: triple nice!!
[06:01] <poningru> DAaaMan64: I dont know what to tell you dude
[06:01] <DShepherd> parisi: nice nice nice!!
[06:01] <poningru> sorry
[06:01] <MrDez> also
[06:01] <Parisi> I have installed a heavy OSX skin on it, still feels quite fast.
[06:01] <interfear> Parisi: what dist u running?
[06:01] <MrDez> u can try setting ur primary dns to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:01] <Parisi> It boots faster as well, programs load faster, window redraw is faster.
[06:01] <DAaaMan64> this just pisses me off,
[06:01] <MrDez> nice and easy to remember
[06:01] <DShepherd> parisi: I am running out of nices
[06:01] <poningru> DAaaMan64: yeah sorry dude
[06:01] <DAaaMan64> thanks
[06:02] <killerbird> Hey, i'm running ubuntu on an amd64, and I want to install the 32 bit libraries so i can install stuff like wine anyone know how to do that ?
[06:02] <slashx1896> mrdez, alrite so just connect the cord to my unbutu box, open up termiknal and ttype ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:02] <Parisi> And so far stable, not bad for a beta release.
[06:02] <DShepherd> parisi: dapper is indeed dapper
[06:02] <Parisi> I am running Flight 2
[06:02] <MrDez> yes, if its successful, enter the network configuration and change the dns to specify <IP_ADDRESS> and then try ping google.com
[06:02] <slashx1896> and if its sucsessfull get on irc on my unbntu system if its not get back on my altop
[06:02] <DShepherd> parisi: kool
[06:02] <Parisi> I would def be sticking with it for a while if i did not need to sync my Axim with XP.
[06:02] <MrDez> if not successful reconnect laptop
[06:02] <slashx1896> laptop*
[06:02] <slashx1896> kk
[06:02] <slashx1896> brb
[06:03] <Parisi> This is going to be a kick ass desktop OS, i can already tell.
[06:03] <DShepherd> parisi: hardware detection, how's that
[06:03] <interfear> does flight 2 autoinstall madwifi drivers?
[06:03] <MrDez> parisi: is the axim windows based?
[06:03] <Parisi> It is really responsive, something that always kept me from going back to windows, its as responsive as XP if not faster.
[06:04] <Parisi> MrDez, it runs Windows Mobile 2003SE, so yes.
[06:04] <MrDez> just install opie on it
[06:04] <MrDez> then u have nix goodness all around
[06:04] <interfear> are most ppl here using 5.10?
[06:04] <Vashypooh> I am atm
[06:04] <Parisi> DShepherd, It reconized my HD, but i have some standard stuff.
[06:04] <MrDez> and much better non-commercial waste-of-money apps
[06:04] <majd> what was the sudo comman to be able to copy files to var/www/ ?
[06:04] <majd> *command
[06:04] <Parisi> It also has better Wireless support so i heard.
[06:04] <Linfanguin> i am using ubuntu eagle edition
[06:04] <Linfanguin> it rocks
[06:04] <majd> sudo cp /blah/blah /var/www <<didn't work
[06:04] <DShepherd> interfear: I am.. plan to go dapper in feb
[06:04] <Parisi> HD = HW
[06:05] <ryan__> where can i find a ppc ubuntu port of pcsx
[06:05] <Parisi> MrDez,  I would love to run a nix flavor on my pocket, but i dont even think the Axim x50v will run it.
[06:05] <slashx> Mrdez, when i pigned the ip it said, connect: Netowkr is unreachable
[06:05] <interfear> DShepherd: is that when dapper is official.. in feb?
[06:06] <Xoritor> goodness i had forgotten how extrememly aweful e16 brushed metal theme looked
[06:06] <Parisi> interfear, I believe its scheduled for April 27th
[06:06] <Eleaf> llol
[06:06] <majd> what was the sudo comman to be able to copy files to var/www/ ?
[06:06] <majd> *command
[06:06] <majd> sudo cp /blah/blah /var/www <<didn't work
[06:06] <Eleaf> why not?
[06:06] <Eleaf> cp -r?
[06:06] <Xoritor> -r is recursive
[06:06] <Xoritor> -a is recursive and preserves perms
[06:07] <Xenguy> majd: didn't work means nothing -- define "didn't work"; was there an error?
[06:07] <DShepherd> interfear: april
[06:07] <poningru> can you chmod 000 something?
[06:07] <Xoritor> sudo cp -a /path/to/dir /var/www
[06:07] <timfrost> slashx, you may need a cross-over cable
[06:07] <ryan__> where's there a site that has PPC linux emu ports
[06:07] <Xoritor> or maybe you want
[06:07] <slashx> whats that mean
[06:07] <Xoritor> cp /path/to/dir/* /var/www
[06:07] <MrDez> slash: did u connect the cable directly to the ubuntu box?
[06:07] <majd> majd@ubuntu:~$ sudo cp /var/www
[06:07] <majd> cp: missing destination file
[06:07] <Xoritor> that would get the files in the dir not the dir itself
[06:07] <slashx> mrdez, yes
[06:07] <ali4728> Hlep! Hey guys does any one know why I get this "ERROR 2013: Lost connection to MySQ" error? Thanks
[06:07] <Parisi> Every Ubuntu release seems to improve over the previous, and thats good, Mark seems like a reasonable guy.
[06:07] <poningru> majd: you didnt say what you want to copy
[06:08] <Xoritor> if there are subdirs you will have to use either the -r or the -a
[06:08] <Vashypooh> I wouldn't think he would need to use a crossover cable, i think a patch should work just from modem to pc
[06:08] <poningru> majd: what do you want to copy to /var/www?
[06:08] <Parisi> I have given up on Mandrake and Fedora long ago, and Suse was never that good to begin with.
[06:08] <majd> ./cdrom1/cip/ to /var/www/
[06:08] <majd> i hated mandrake
[06:08] <DShepherd> wats next for ubuntu after dapper.?
[06:08] <Vashypooh> ubuntu is my first so far
[06:08] <krystoff> hi there please is someone can give me the url for the sources.list please ?
[06:09] <MrDez> ok when its connected, open terminal, type su (enter, enter root passwd, this way u dont have to keep doing sudo on commands), type 'ifdown eth0'  then type 'ifup eth0' then type ifconfig and make sure u have an internet routable (or NAT'ed) ip address
[06:09] <DShepherd> Vashypooh: same here
[06:09] <poningru> majd: then go sudo cp ./cdrom1/cip /var/www
[06:09] <killerbird> ubuntu is the first i've ever managed to install correctly :/
[06:09] <Vashypooh> I just got everything working correctly today
[06:09] <interfear> how do you mount the cdrom in ubuntu
[06:09] <poningru> !sources
[06:09] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:09] <interfear> mount /dev/cdrom ?
[06:09] <krystoff> thx poningru
[06:09] <MrDez> or u could just reboot if u dont mind being disconnected very long
[06:09] <poningru> yep
[06:09] <MrDez> that will renew dhcp properly as well (sometimes the X based tools are fidgety)
[06:10] <Vashypooh> I managed to get all ATI drivers and stuff installed
[06:10] <poningru> interfear: well you have to specifiy a mount point
[06:10] <Parisi> brb, time to boot back to XP
[06:10] <majd> poningru, then go sudo cp ./cdrom1/cip /var/www
[06:10] <majd> oops
[06:10] <Vashypooh> managed to get Starcraft to work under Wine and Cedega
[06:10] <majd> hold on
[06:10] <majd> cp: cannot stat `./cdrom1/cip': No such file or directory
[06:10] <majd> ther
[06:10] <slashx> Mrdez, what do u reccomnd i do? reboot or ifdown eth0 , ifup eth0
[06:10] <interfear> poningru: so like mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom?
[06:10] <majd> *there
[06:10] <krystoff> oups i can't su
[06:10] <majd> i also tried it w/o the dot
[06:10] <Vashypooh> I got some bugs to take out tho ;/ im Having audio issues
[06:10] <DShepherd> interfear: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hd** /mnt/dir <-- try that
[06:10] <interfear> dammit i want to go to the vending machines but i only have a 5$ bill
[06:10] <interfear> do vending machines take 5's?
[06:10] <interfear> like candy machines
[06:10] <Vashypooh> lol no Inter
[06:11] <interfear> dam
[06:11] <poningru> interfear: you could do that but try mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[06:11] <interfear> ok will do
[06:11] <MrDez> only the ones with sandwhiches in them
[06:11] <poningru> interfear: it should have auto mounted
[06:11] <interfear> thats what i figure
[06:11] <krystoff> excuse me ... a little tired tonight
[06:11] <poningru> majd: hmm
[06:11] <MrDez> slash: reboot is the easiest
[06:11] <slashx> ok
[06:11] <MrDez> in case something goes awry
[06:11] <slashx> so what do u want me to do
[06:11] <DShepherd> interfear:  /dev/cdrom =  /dev/hd*
[06:11] <MrDez> if ur linux noob in general
[06:11] <slashx> reboot while connected to the unbut box
[06:11] <Vashypooh> I also have a problem restarting my PC
[06:11] <Vashypooh> When i try to restart my PC, X crashes
[06:11] <slashx> im not 100% noob but i only know a lil bit about linux..
[06:11] <majd> someone posted some code 3 days ago and it worked fine
[06:11] <luisito> hi guys!!
[06:12] <majd> but i didn't save it
[06:12] <poningru> majd: doh my mistake
[06:12] <MrDez> reboot, open term, sudo ifconfig, make sure it gives you an ip (and not a 169.x.x.x or <IP_ADDRESS>) for eth0 interface
[06:12] <MrDez> then trying pinging ip
[06:12] <poningru> majd: sudo cp cdrom1/cip /var/www
[06:12] <slashx> and reboot while connected to the unbut boc
[06:12] <slashx> ubuntu
[06:12] <luisito> hey people, I'm making a theme I'm sure most of you will really love. :))
[06:13] <Vashypooh> for anyone just new to Ubuntu i really recomend Automatix from a fresh install
[06:13] <cycom> Vashypooh: wth is Automatix?
[06:13] <slashx> alrite brb all...
[06:13] <luisito> !automatix
[06:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[06:13] <Vashypooh> its on the ubuntu forums
[06:13] <majd> poningru, same error
[06:13] <Vashypooh> lemme get you a link
[06:13] <Xenguy> niiiice
[06:13] <DShepherd> can anyone tell me whats ubuntu's plan after dapper is released? what's the next big thing
[06:13] <Vashypooh> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295
[06:13] <poningru> cycom: use !easyubuntu
[06:14] <poningru> !easyubuntu
[06:14] <ubotu> poningru: Not a clue
[06:14] <poningru> wtf
[06:14] <poningru> !easybuntu
[06:14] <ubotu> poningru: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:14] <ntumba> Hi all, I was wondering if anyone could help me. I have a sudo problem. I spent the past 4 hours trying to fix
[06:14] <Vashypooh> Its real nice actually, i just ran it
[06:14] <Vashypooh> Installs all the basic stuff you would want from it
[06:15] <poningru> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64629
[06:15] <bimberi> !easyubuntu
[06:15] <ubotu> I guess easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[06:15] <poningru> cycom: use that
[06:15] <Zatoichi> Anyone sucessfully configured cups?
[06:15] <MrDez> zatoic: ive successfully let apt-get configure it and fu for me ;)
[06:16] <johndarkhorse> poningru: for the patient, there will be a usable totally new version of easyubuntu within 2 weeks (or so i've been told)
[06:16] <interfear> i think ubuntu is the most popular dist right now?
[06:17] <lysis> ok
[06:17] <Vashypooh> Automatix is better than Easy Ubuntu i think
[06:17] <poningru> Vashypooh: please do not use automatix
[06:17] <nicholaspaul> Automatix?
[06:17] <nicholaspaul> oh... its not good?!
[06:17] <lysis> i was asking earlier how to add drop shadows to gnome (even though it is not recommended)   somebody said to look something up.   could somebody offer that advice again?
[06:17] <Vashypooh> whu
[06:17] <Vashypooh> why
[06:17] <poningru> it can be security hazard for some people
[06:17] <lysis> i'm told automatix causes problems and it shouldn't be recommended in the chat.
[06:17] <poningru> !automatix
[06:17] <ubotu> [automatix]  messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[06:17] <cycom> ...what could automatix and easybuntu install?
[06:18] <Vashypooh> Seems to work fine for me
[06:18] <interfear> should i install dapper or 5.10?
[06:18] <cycom> Vashypooh: what the hell does it install?
[06:18] <DragonOutlaw> Hey
[06:18] <Zatoichi> MrDez, what do you mean? apt-get configured it for you?
[06:18] <poningru> cycom: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[06:18] <cycom> interfear: what is the system used for
[06:18] <Vashypooh> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295
[06:18] <interfear> cycom: just my home desktop
[06:18] <DragonOutlaw> Does anyone know how to set up a shell account that locks into one folder and makes it a persons home
[06:18] <cycom> poningru: I'm in console mode on a gentoo install, can you please just give me a basic rundown?
[06:18] <lysis> cycom, it installs restricted formats, and sets up things that could possibly take up a whole 20 minutes of your valuable time.
[06:18] <DragonOutlaw> so they can't access the rest of the server
[06:18] <DShepherd> interfear: 5.10 is stable.. dapper is in theory not
[06:19] <interfear> DShepherd: hrm.. ok.. what r u running?
[06:19] <cycom> interfear: do you have another computer which you primarily use?
[06:19] <Zatoichi> I can't even login using the web interface.
[06:19] <interfear> cycom: no this is my primary pc
[06:19] <DShepherd> interfear: 5.10
[06:19] <interfear> ok
[06:19] <DragonOutlaw> anyone? =(
[06:19] <cycom> interfear: I hate to say it, but I'd go for 5.10
[06:19] <cycom> interfear: yeah.  Dapper just ain't there yet.
[06:19] <interfear> yeh ill wait for the official dapper..
[06:19] <johndarkhorse> nicholaspaul: ping
[06:19] <poningru> cycom: oh sorry
[06:19] <Xenguy> DragonOutlaw: that sounds like a 'chroot' jail
[06:20] <moodsoft> hi all, I'm curious has anyone ever gotten Samba to work under Ubuntu? I've put it on 2 computers, and on both of them they say its working but no clients can see it
[06:20] <DragonOutlaw> yes
[06:20] <interfear> i hope the 32bit install program doesnt crash on me.. the 64bit version did
[06:20] <interfear> lets cross our fingers
[06:20] <poningru> cycom: its not for you then, its just for autoinstallation of java, some codecs, ms fonts etc.
[06:20] <Xenguy> DragonOutlaw: I haven't tried it myself
[06:20] <cycom> poningru: :) what, just because I'm installing gentoo?
[06:20] <poningru> cycom: its basically for noobs who want an easy method of installing things that are not so free/legal
[06:20] <interfear> dammit nobody has change for a 5 in the dorms and i want to hit the vending machines
[06:21] <poningru> interfear: where do you live?
[06:21] <cycom> interfear: uh...k
[06:21] <interfear> i go to the culinary institute of america in ny
[06:21] <poningru> culinary?
[06:21] <interfear> yeh
[06:21] <poningru> ah
[06:21] <poningru> ic
[06:21] <z0rz> How do I get the flash plugin for FF?
[06:21] <DShepherd> poningru: well noob or not.. its automated.. and I like that.. saves me time
[06:21] <poningru> UF here
[06:21] <poningru> DShepherd: true
[06:21] <cycom> interfear: you're in NY. go out on the street and find someone with a 5.
[06:21] <poningru> noob isnt an insult
[06:21] <cycom> interfear: change for a 5*
[06:21] <poningru> I consider myself to be a noob
[06:21] <moodsoft> interfear, wow, you must be good. I heard that's the hardest school to get into
[06:21] <MrDez> UF?
[06:22] <vbgunz> is there a way to make KDE apps look native to Gnome?
[06:22] <poningru> uni of Florida
[06:22] <MrDez> as in gators?
[06:22] <poningru> yeah
[06:22] <MrDez> congratulations, ur smart
[06:22] <MrDez> ;)
[06:22] <interfear> moodsoft: its the best culinary school.. and no you dont have to be good at all to get in here..
[06:22] <sslashx> mrdez, :\
[06:22] <Noundi> MrDez: Nope
[06:22] <interfear> there are idiots here who cant even hold a knife properly
[06:22] <MrDez> sslash: no ip?
[06:22] <SlashX1896> nope
[06:22] <poningru> hehe thanks
[06:22] <johndarkhorse> !offtopic
[06:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:22] <Noundi> MrDez: I reset the the table and the mbr, still gets stuck at grub install.
[06:22] <interfear> sry
[06:22] <MrDez> noundi: fack.
[06:23] <Noundi> MrDez Yup
[06:23] <cycom> interfear: that's ok.  They won't be able to serve food forever if that's the case.  They're going to be missing too many fingers.
[06:23] <z0rz> How do I get the flash plugin for FF?
[06:23] <moodsoft> I suppose since I got no response about Samba, then no one has ever gotten Samba to work?
[06:23] <SlashX1896> when i did sudo ifconfig, i had eth0 and lo, eth0 had a whole bunch of stuff... but no ip
[06:23] <interfear> cycom: :)
[06:23] <MrDez> really?
[06:23] <SlashX1896> ya
[06:23] <cycom> interfear: I'm no cook, but I still have managed to not slice myself since I was about 8.
[06:24] <MrDez> sslash: should normally be 2nd line and read like "inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>"
[06:24] <poningru> !tell z0rz about flash
[06:24] <interfear> cycom: nice.. as long as you know how to hold the knife and the food.. you can cut pretty fast .. its not that difficult once you get used to it.. most ppl just dont know that
[06:25] <moodsoft> Going by what I've been told, if interfear is in the head chef classes, when he leaves he'll be able to start off at a 4 class restaurant, instead of the diner down the street
[06:25] <poningru> z0rz: look through that page for flash
[06:25] <Xenguy> z0rz: apt-get search flash |grep -i plug
[06:25] <interfear> moodsoft: lol yeh.. ive already worked in a 4 star place
[06:25] <SlashX1896> mrdez, eth0 had something like that.. but lo had that exactly
[06:25] <interfear> moodsoft: im prolly gonna go work in vegas.. they pay alot
[06:25] <vskye> moodsoft - check on the archives of ubuntu for more info. It works fine, just haven't done it myself.
[06:25] <MrDez> otherwise no dhcp coming thru, is this a fresh 5.10 install with no firewall/misc network apps installed yet?
[06:25] <cycom> interfear: don't you just have your thumb against the flat of the blade and make sure the knife doesn't leave it or something? never had to cut a cucumber or anything.
[06:26] <poningru> !automatrix
[06:26] <ubotu> Not a clue, poningru
[06:26] <poningru> !automatix
[06:26] <ubotu> I guess automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[06:26] <danielmccauley> slash r u on ppc?
[06:26] <Xenguy> z0rz: apt-cache search flash |grep -i plug
[06:26] <SlashX1896> i dont think so
[06:26] <interfear> cycom: well you wanna hold the knife up at the top of the grip.. pinching it inbetween your index,middle.. and thumb
[06:26] <SlashX1896> mrdez, i got an ip under the lo interface
[06:26] <interfear> http://www.chefdepot.net/graphics40/holding_knife.jpg
[06:26] <danielmccauley> what is the lo interface?
[06:27] <SlashX1896> but the eth0 had inet8: some stuff like xxx:x::xxx:xxx:xxx:xxxx or w/e
[06:27] <johndarkhorse> interfear: cycom: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:27] <Crazy_Man> svideo connection flickers at tty and goes away when entering X...any reason?
[06:27] <cycom> interfear: console mode, remember ;)
[06:27] <killerbird> anyone know how i can get some codecs for video playback keeping in mind im on a 64 bit machine
[06:27] <interfear> johndarkhorse: k sry man. ended
[06:27] <interfear> yeh
[06:27] <cycom> johndarkhorse: awright then
[06:27] <SlashX1896> lo is local loopback and it had an ipo and mask
[06:27] <cycom> interfear: what runs on the machine now?
[06:27] <Xenguy> z0rz: nm, that doesn't work, hrm
[06:27] <interfear> cycom: xp64
[06:27] <majd> how do i access my cdrom drive?
[06:27] <majd> just /cdrom1/ right?
[06:28] <DShepherd> killerbird: i think 32bit apps work fine on 64bits architecture
[06:28] <cycom> interfear: ick.
[06:28] <majd> oh, there's media/ before
[06:28] <poningru> majd: no its usually /media/hdc
[06:28] <cycom> interfear: and it is your ONLY machine?
[06:28] <MrDez> slash: u mean inet6 xxx:xxx
[06:28] <interfear> cycom: nod.. why im about to install ubuntu
[06:28] <interfear> cycom: yeh
[06:28] <MrDez> that ipv6
[06:28] <poningru> majd: yeah
[06:28] <MrDez> which is np
[06:28] <DShepherd> majd: /media/cdrom
[06:28] <majd> poningru, majd@ubuntu:~$ cp -R /media/cdrom1/cip/ /var/www/
[06:28] <majd> cp: cannot create directory `/var/www/cip': Permission denied
[06:28] <MrDez> but just 'inet addr' is what needs an ip
[06:28] <cycom> interfear: dual boot, or are you just going to ditch windows?
[06:28] <killerbird> i followed the ubuntu help webpage thing and when i went to run the file it said that it doesn't work on antyhing other than i386
[06:28] <majd> how can i login as root?
[06:28] <phiber-optic> does anyone know why the weather gdesklet for montreal is not working?
[06:28] <interfear> cycom: planning on ditching windows.. unless something goes during install.. in which ill dual boot
[06:28] <DShepherd> majd: u need sudo infront of that
[06:29] <poningru> !tell majd about root
[06:29] <poningru> oh yeah
[06:29] <poningru> sorry
[06:29] <cycom> interfear: ever used linux before?
[06:29] <poningru> majd: you forgot sudo
[06:29] <interfear> cycom: oh yeh many times
[06:29] <majd> oops
[06:29] <interfear> cycom: havent for a few years
[06:29] <cycom> interfear: what distros?
[06:29] <majd> ah....the cd's workin
[06:29] <interfear> cycom: redhat.. suse.. slack..
[06:29] <majd> awsome
[06:29] <majd> thanks
[06:29] <cycom> interfear: ever use gentoo?
[06:29] <SlashX1896> sorry about that...
[06:30] <GeorgeAScott> hello
[06:30] <phiber-optic> how do I change my passwd? with passwd??
[06:30] <SlashX1896> mrdez, it said inet6 addr: and it was in thi sformat (x = letters and numbers
[06:30] <DShepherd> hi
[06:30] <Xenguy> phiber-optic: yep
[06:30] <interfear> cycom: i tried to install it.. but fdisk told me i had a 350mb hd that coudlnt be written to.. so the install kinda ended there
[06:30] <GeorgeAScott> i have a question about diskmounter
[06:30] <majd> now i gotta remember how i fixed that
[06:30] <majd> Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/cip/connector.php on line 2 3 days ago
[06:31] <SlashX1896> inter 6 addr: xxxx::xxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx/xx scope:Link
[06:31] <cycom> interfear: I'd try dual booting with gentoo.  it's a great education
[06:31] <phiber-optic> does anyone know why the weather gdesklet for montreal is not working?
[06:31] <cycom> interfear: but excruciating to do
[06:31] <interfear> cycom: like i said.. if i could get past the fdisk problem id install it
[06:31] <cycom> interfear: I personally liked cfdisk better, and I bet I could guess what it is
[06:31] <cycom> interfear: you were fdisking the cdrom drive.
[06:31] <cycom> interfear: do you have SATA?
[06:31] <SlashX1896> mrdez, thats what the 2nd line of eth0 looks like
[06:31] <interfear> cycom: i have sata yes
[06:32] <cycom> what did you use to invoke fdisk?
[06:32] <ITSa341> what's the most recommended app for newsgroups?  I want some live opinions before I install anything.
[06:32] <interfear> cyphase: i think like fdisk /dev/hda or w/e.. w/e they told u to do in the install manual
[06:32] <cyphase> interfear, that's a first :)
[06:32] <MrDez> sslash: not getting dhcp
[06:32] <cyphase> someone mistaking me for cycom
[06:33] <cycom> interfear: /dev/sda
[06:33] <interfear> heh sry
[06:33] <cyphase> it's usually the other way around :P
[06:33] <interfear> cycom: /dev/sda is the hard drive?
[06:33] <SlashX1896> ?
[06:33] <MrDez> were u required to give comcast the mac address of the machine u connect with when u setup service?
[06:33] <cycom> interfear: the handbook is more along guidelines than a straight instruction guide
[06:33] <MrDez> or can u connect any other machine directly with no problem
[06:33] <interfear> cycom: hrm.. so /dev/sda would work?
[06:33] <cycom> interfear: /dev/hd* is usually IDE, and /dev/sd* is scsi (aka serial ata)
[06:33] <SlashX1896> i can connect to any windows machine fine
[06:33] <interfear> ahh
[06:34] <cycom> interfear: you got it hoss.
[06:34] <DShepherd> interfear: is it sata? if it is.. it probably is
[06:34] <johndarkhorse> ITSa341: pan for newsgroups
[06:34] <GeorgeAScott> !diskmounter
[06:34] <ubotu> somebody said diskmounter was to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[06:34] <SlashX1896> just having problems getting on my ubuntu box
[06:34] <interfear> cycom: hrm.. i dunno about gentoo though..
[06:34] <cycom> interfear: like I said, dual boot
[06:34] <interfear> cycom: your saying dual boot ubuntu and gentoo?
[06:34] <cycom> interfear: or do what I'm working on doing. triple boot.  gentoo, ubuntu, windows XP home
[06:34] <interfear> hrm...
[06:34] <nicholaspaul> majd: dont!
[06:35] <nicholaspaul> majd:  you can seriously mess up stuff that way, and i dont mean to be  patronizing, i'm sure you know what youre doing.
[06:35] <cycom> interfear: I use ubuntu most of the time, but if I need winblows in a pinch, I can use it, and I love gentoo, so it has to get on here eventually
[06:35] <nicholaspaul> majd: the best thing to do is to use sudo .
[06:35] <cycom> interfear: I have 2 other machines running gentoo, and one running fbsd
[06:35] <cycom> interfear: Never throw out an old computer.  It can always run linux to play with and test ;)
[06:35] <interfear> cycom: i dunno about gentoo though.. i hear its hard .. i need easy linux for now.. im at school
[06:36] <ITSa341>  johndarkhorse  have you used it? and if so is it relatively easy to use for a beginner?
[06:36] <GeorgeAScott> how do i save diskmounter as a file?
[06:36] <majd> nicholaspaul, what shouldn't i do?
[06:36] <majd> try to fix it?
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> majd: dont login as root.
[06:36] <majd> oh
[06:36] <cycom> interfear: it's an education.  and if you dual boot, if you get fed up with gentoo, you can just boot back into ubuntu. :)
[06:36] <SlashX1896> mrdez, i can connect directly on everycomputer BUT my ubuntu box...
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> majd:  just type 'root' before any command .
[06:36] <johndarkhorse> nicholaspaul: ?
[06:36] <SlashX1896> nicholaspual, u mean sudo?
[06:36] <johndarkhorse> nicholaspaul: are you ignoring your messages?
[06:36] <cycom> interfear: frankly, you can 'chroot' into gentoo and install stuff from the chroot while you're in ubuntu, if you're slick ;)
[06:36] <interfear> cycom: plus doesnt gentoo take like hours upon hours to install?
[06:37] <GNU32> Hi. I have a DVD for ubuntu installation, however I want to spread it out on seperate disks. How?
[06:37] <nicholaspaul> duh.. 'sudo' thats what i meant,
[06:37] <nicholaspaul> thanks!! (duh!)
[06:37] <cycom> interfear: *shrug* yeah, but like I said, it's an education
[06:37] <SlashX1896> lol
[06:37] <majd> when i type mysql in the terminal it takes me to the terminal
[06:37] <mcdenyer> whats the differenct between root terminal and terminal?
[06:37] <cycom> interfear: I've been working on it for like 4 hours, but about 3 and a half has been spent chatting on IRC :)
[06:37] <Crewz> interfear, more like compile, installation is fast, compiling the rest is slow, well on anything but 2ghz and ++
[06:37] <cycom> interfear: you do compile EVERYTHING though
[06:37] <GNU32> mcdenyer: not much, except that you're root. you can do anything.
[06:38] <nicholaspaul> SlashX1896: believe it or not, i do use sudo all the time!! (doh!)
[06:38] <cycom> Crewz: if he's running XP 64, you have to figure he's got that.
[06:38] <Crewz> ya
[06:38] <mcdenyer> gnu32 hmm what shouldi  usually use?
[06:38] <interfear> cycom: yeh.. i think ill just try ubuntu first..
[06:38] <SlashX1896> lol
[06:38] <interfear> i have an x2 4400
[06:38] <cycom> interfear: WUSSIE!!!! :)
[06:38] <SlashX1896> mrdez, so whats up?
[06:38] <GNU32> mcdenyer dunno
[06:38] <GNU32> mcdenyer: not much, except that you're root. you can do anything.
[06:38] <GNU32> Hi. I have a DVD for ubuntu installation, however I want to spread it out on seperate disks. How?
[06:38] <mcdenyer> how do i change the resolution of my desktop?
[06:38] <Crewz> well its compiles quite fast on a 2800+ so ..
[06:38] <cycom> interfear: Seriously, try dual booting.
[06:38] <interfear> maybe..
[06:39] <interfear> ill think about it
[06:39] <cycom> Crewz: Distcc is your friend.  I've got a 1.6ghz Pentium M supplimented with a 1.6ghz P4 and a dual 600mhz PIII (1.2ghz total)
[06:39] <mcdenyer> can somone help me change my resolution
[06:39] <GNU32> Hi. I have a DVD for ubuntu installation, however I want to spread it out on seperate disks. How?
[06:39] <GNU32> Hi. I have a DVD for ubuntu installation, however I want to spread it out on seperate disks. How?
[06:39] <cycom> interfear: installing stuff is cake.  emerge <package>
[06:39] <Crewz> cycom : my machines are already working hard, dont want to disturbe them, they get mean
[06:40] <cycom> Crewz: that's what 'nice' is for ;)
[06:40] <cycom> Crewz: define working hard
[06:40] <mcdenyer> why does ubuntu resolution not go very high?  is there anyway to make a higer resolution
[06:40] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about fixres
[06:40] <phiber-optic> anyone know how to put the desklet that allows a bar like mac?
[06:41] <interfear> ok installing ubuntu
[06:41] <interfear> be back in 30
[06:41] <MrDez> !fixres
[06:41] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:41] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:41] <Crewz> cycom generating heat for my cold feet
[06:41] <Crewz> hehe kidding
[06:41] <mcdenyer> xenguy hmm
[06:41] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: use sudo also
[06:42] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse yes but i have breezy not hoary
[06:42] <cycom> Crewz: you laugh, but my room is a good 5 degrees warmer than the rest of the house with 3 machines in it ;)
[06:42] <phiber-optic> anyone know how to put the desklet that allows a bar like mac??
[06:42] <SlashX1896> Mrdez?
[06:42] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: reduce the number of desktop resolution options if necessary; also try reducing from 24 to 16 colours if the preceding doesn't work
[06:42] <Crewz> cycom, got 3 machines on at all times also
[06:42] <Crewz> eventually ill get the dec alpha going
[06:42] <mcdenyer> where is the terminal shortcut in breezy i cant find it
[06:43] <cycom> Crewz: One of them has dual processor and 3 hds as well
[06:43] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: 24->16 is done manually on the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[06:43] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about xcfg
[06:43] <Crewz> same, small dual 266mhz, but it does it job
[06:43] <MrDez> slash: 1sec
[06:43] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: there ya go
[06:43] <Toma-> anyone know the best way to rip a CD to wav or even raw?
[06:43] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: file accessories terminal
[06:43] <cycom> Crewz: how much ram?
[06:43] <mcdenyer> johndarkhouse ok ty
[06:43] <Toma-> sound juicer isnt working :/
[06:43] <SlashX1896> mrdez, alrite
[06:43] <mcdenyer> why did the move the temrinals in breezy ?
[06:43] <Crewz> 256
[06:43] <MrDez> sslash: u dont have any sort of old router u can throw on it to see if it gets dhcp from the router?
[06:44] <killerbird> hey folks, so I have like 7 fat32 partitions that are mounted in /mnt/drive1...7 .  Anyone know how i can make it so i dont have to mount those drives everytime i reboot ubuntu??
[06:44] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: I created a hotkey to F12
[06:44] <SlashX1896> nope
[06:44] <Crewz> its got a bare ubuntu server setup, it doesnt do much, mostly masquerade (i have no router/dsl), apache, and ftp
[06:44] <nicholaspaul> Anyone here Dappering with Airport Extreme
[06:44] <MrDez> ok, what is ur ip on the machine ur on right now
[06:44] <nicholaspaul> ?
[06:44] <nrdb> I am getting a lot 1000s of error messages "atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)" and "atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known" does anyone know how to stop this?
[06:45] <MrDez> hit start - run - type cmd - enter - ipconfig
[06:45] <Xenguy> Crewz: none of that requires X tho
[06:45] <MrDez> hit start - run - type cmd - enter - ipconfig /all
[06:45] <SlashX1896> Mrdez, should i try pinging the ip thast lo got me when i did ifconfig
[06:45] <MrDez> sorry
[06:45] <SlashX1896> i know.. lol
[06:45] <MrDez> lo is just the loopback
[06:45] <MrDez> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:45] <SlashX1896> oh
[06:45] <SlashX1896> ok
[06:45] <Doomhammer> hey guys, i'm having trouble running "sudo apt-get update"
[06:45] <Doomhammer> i'm getting the same error described here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=655052
[06:45] <mcdenyer> xenguy hey whats is the bus i dentifier?
[06:46] <Doomhammer> "package sudo is missing final newline"
[06:46] <Crewz> Xenguy, altough im running X on it at the moment, its usually not running
[06:46] <mcdenyer> xenguy should i just leave what it has for it?
[06:46] <SlashX1896> <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:46] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: go with defaults as much as possible
[06:46] <phiber-optic> can anybody help me how to set up the starter gdeskelt?
[06:46] <MrDez> doom: open terminal type 'su' press enter
[06:46] <MrDez> type passwd
[06:46] <Xenguy> Crewz: reminds me of the good old days :-)
[06:46] <MrDez> type apt-get install sudo
[06:46] <MrDez> that might fix it
[06:46] <mcdenyer> xenguy ok now is asks how much memory to put towards the graphics
[06:47] <Doomhammer> MrDez: you're saying i should set a root password ? :S
[06:47] <MrDez> otherwise u should be able to apt-get anything (without sudo in front) after entering root console
[06:47] <Doomhammer> oh oh the root console... nvm
[06:47] <mcdenyer> xenguy it says i can leave it blank
[06:47] <GeorgeAScott> does anybody know italian?  cause every time i ask wiki for help on fstab it redirects to the italian page.
[06:47] <MrDez> doom: i think su still uses ur existing username passwd
[06:47] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: you can either guess, or look up your video card's specs on the web I guess (or take a default if there is one :-)
[06:47] <MrDez> sslash: write that down and the netmask and the gateway
[06:47] <Crewz> Xenguy, i started with Slack 3.2, still got the cdrom.com Boxset
[06:47] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: blank
[06:47] <Xenguy> Crewz: hehe
[06:47] <MrDez> manually enter it on ubu box
[06:48] <interfear> cycom: ubuntu install crashed where it always does.. cd-rom read error.  im gonna try gentoo
[06:48] <interfear> cycom: should i use 32bit gentoo or 64?
[06:48] <mcdenyer> xenguy what about this kernal framebuffer thing?
[06:48] <cycom> 64
[06:48] <SlashX1896> where on the ubunut box
[06:48] <mcdenyer> xenguy enable it or not?
[06:48] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: isn't the default answer 'no' ?
[06:48] <cycom> you have a 64 processor.  and move into #gentoo
[06:48] <interfear> k
[06:48] <mcdenyer> xenguy yes but it suggest enabling
[06:48] <mcdenyer> xenguy iy
[06:48] <mcdenyer> xenguy it*
[06:48] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: go with the default when in doubt :-)
[06:48] <Doomhammer> MrDez: nope, my password isn't working for su
[06:49] <killerbird> does anyone know how to mount an NTFS formatted partition??
[06:49] <killerbird> i only care about reading
[06:49] <Crewz> Xenguy, slack3.2, then rh 5 to 6.1, then mandrake (i was tempted by the darkside), then debian, sorcerer, gentoo and ubuntu *(i tried many others, including all bsd's)
[06:49] <phiber-optic> can anybody help me how to set up the starter gdesklet?
[06:49] <SlashX1896> mrdez, where do i manually enter it?
[06:49] <MrDez> use System - Administration - Networking
[06:49] <bimberi> killerbird: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:49] <SlashX1896> then?
[06:49] <Crewz> Solaris 5.7 and up (evil), linux on sparcs is much faster
[06:49] <Xenguy> Crewz: wow, you've been around.  Me: RH -> Debian, and much later Ubuntu
[06:49] <killerbird> thank:)
[06:50] <nrdb> I am getting a lot 1000s of error messages "atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)" and "atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known" does anyone know how to stop this?
[06:50] <bimberi> killerbird: np :)
[06:50] <MrDez> ethernet connection - properties - configuration: static ip
[06:50] <MrDez> then mirror ur current box settings that that machine
[06:50] <MrDez> then ok - ok and restart ub
[06:50] <MrDez> after restart, open term and sudo ifconfig
[06:50] <MrDez> make sure it kept the settings
[06:50] <MrDez> as static
[06:50] <MrDez> and inet addr: 77.xxxxx
[06:50] <MrDez> is second line
[06:51] <Xenguy> nrdb: I get those too
[06:51] <Crewz> Xenguy, yeah, i actually have a private school linux course diploma, (already knew everything, was fun to piss off proffessor, by remotly opening his CDROM all the time) , but i wanted a paper, saying i knew linux, so..
[06:51] <MrDez> doom: 1 min
[06:51] <SlashX1896> what do you mean mirror ur current box settings that that machine?
[06:51] <majd> i'm having major issues with mysql
[06:51] <majd> anyone willing to help?
[06:51] <majd> i installed phpmyadmin and i get the following error:
[06:51] <nrdb> Xenguy: have you managed to stop them?
[06:51] <MrDez> sslash: use the ip settings from ipconfig on this machine
[06:51] <majd> Cannot load mysql extension. Please check your PHP configuration. - Documentation
[06:51] <Xenguy> Crewz: some certifications can help get a job, yep
[06:52] <Crewz> and i know, i work at a damn puter shop, peddling an evil OS and bad software
[06:52] <MrDez> make sure ip, netmask and gateway is set to exact same
[06:52] <SlashX1896> as the one on this laptop?
[06:52] <MrDez> yes
[06:52] <SlashX1896> ok i didall that
[06:52] <SlashX1896> now restart?
[06:52] <Doomhammer> majd: i'm pretty sure you need to install a package named something like php4-mysql
[06:52] <MrDez> yes
[06:52] <Xenguy> nrdb: no, I don't know yet what causes them, but it doesn't appear to be anything vital yet
[06:52] <SlashX1896> but connect the ethernet cable back tothe ubuntu bo
[06:52] <SlashX1896> box
[06:53] <Crewz> oh and i code most of the websites around here
[06:53] <phiber-optic> can anybody help me how to set up the starter gdesklet?
[06:53] <mcdenyer> xenguy ok when it gives me a list of resolutions and asks me to select the ones i want how do i check them off?
[06:53] <MrDez> Crewz: long live sunOS 4.2
[06:53] <MrDez> ;)
[06:53] <mcdenyer> xenguy like what button do i use?
[06:53] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: space key
[06:53] <nrdb> Xenguy: It is adding lots of junk to my log files I just whant to stop it.
[06:53] <MrDez> sslash: after it reboots
[06:53] <MrDez> then connect the cable
[06:53] <Crewz> MrDez, thats like saying long live the anykey on old compaq's
[06:53] <Xenguy> nrdb: let me know if you find out :-)
[06:53] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: use the space bar
[06:53] <j2dope> hi. is there a way to make it so when i click my middle mouse button, i have a drag icon?
[06:53] <MrDez> sslash: and dont restart router
[06:54] <mcdenyer> xenguy how do i go back?
[06:54] <MrDez> sslash: going afk for a smoke, be back in 10 mins or so
[06:54] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: hrm, tab and shift-tab  ?
[06:54] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: ctrl-c the process and start over
[06:54] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: or use your arrows for up n down
[06:54] <majd> how can i restart the apache server?
[06:54] <Eleaf> bye
[06:55] <mcdenyer> hmm ok i just dont know what my monitors setrtings things are
[06:55] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse when i hit ctrl c nothing happened
[06:55] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: yeah, maybe Ctrl-C and try choosing the 'Simple' option for monitors  ?
[06:55] <MrDez> majd: sudo apachectl restart
[06:55] <Xenguy> hrm
[06:55] <mcdenyer> yeah notihng happenhed when i hit ctrl c
[06:55] <MrDez> er
[06:55] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: you can also close the terminal emulator
[06:56] <fireonyx> I have a question about compiling a kernel..  this the right place to ask?
[06:56] <johndarkhorse> fireonyx: ask away
[06:56] <nrdb> Xenguy: I just too a punt and used the command "sudo setkeycodes e02a 126" that at least stop the messages
[06:56] <Xenguy> fireonyx: sure
[06:56] <benplaut> anyone know of a good [O'Reilly?]  book on bash/shell scripting?
[06:56] <MrDez> majd: or sudo /etc/init.d/apachectl restart
[06:56] <MrDez> i think
[06:56] <Xenguy> nrdb: hrm, thanks
[06:56] <majd> sudo: /etc/init.d/apachectl: command not found
[06:56] <majd> sudo: apachectl: command not found
[06:56] <luisito> Is there a way of put shadows under the menus and windows?
[06:57] <MrDez> well then
[06:57] <picasso> apachectl is in /usr/sbin/ or /usr/local/sbin/ probably
[06:57] <benplaut> !xcompmgr
[06:57] <ubotu> Not a clue, benplaut
[06:57] <Xenguy> benplaut: yeah, the 'fish' book :-)
[06:57] <Doomhammer> majd: it's sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[06:57] <MrDez> /usr/sbin
[06:57] <MrDez> what picasso said
[06:57] <MrDez> no ln to it in ub i guess
[06:57] <Doomhammer> majd: assumming I know what it is you're trying to do :P
[06:57] <majd> yeah that worked, thanks dooglus
[06:57] <Crewz> benplaut, http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/bash2/
[06:57] <majd> yeah i just installed php4-mysql
[06:57] <majd> and i need to restart the server
[06:57] <benplaut> thanks
[06:57] <benplaut> i've got 45 days to the online DB... downloading as much as a want via PDF >:D
[06:58] <majd> can i just permantely change the permissions to my /var/www/ folder so i don't have to do everything in terminal?
[06:58] <fireonyx> I am compiling the 2.6.15 kernel, have installed the kolivas patches..  also the suspend patch.  I did the make oldconfig and held down enter for all the ?..  Currently in make config.  Trying to pick which proccessor to pick.  I have the Turion64, but I dont want the 64bit processor part yet.. as I hear dl/compiling stuff is a bit more complex
[06:58] <MrDez> bad idea majd
[06:59] <johndarkhorse> majd: not a good idea
[06:59] <MrDez> unless its an isolated server for an intranet that will never ever touch the internet in any way
[06:59] <MrDez> then, go nuts ;)
[06:59] <mcdenyer> xenguy ok done now would u mind telling me exactly what i just did?
[06:59] <mcdenyer> xenguy like what the xserver and xorg is
[06:59] <j2dope> hi. is there a way to make it so when i click my middle mouse button, i have a drag icon?
[06:59] <johndarkhorse> majd: you shouldn't change the permissions of anything that isnt in your home folder (and be careful changing some of those)
[06:59] <mcdenyer> xenguy just like explain the command
[06:59] <majd> i see
[06:59] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse thank you for the help
[07:00] <majd> it's just a pain though
[07:00] <moodsoft> Anyone here know a fair amount about Samba and Ubuntu?
[07:00] <MrDez> majd: configure apache to point websites to home folder eg /home/user1/public_html
[07:00] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse how do i change my resolution now?
[07:00] <MrDez> and use virtual domains to manage it
[07:01] <killerbird> i need help setting up divx etc codecs on my 64 bit machine, can i get some directions :)?
[07:01] <MrDez> !w32codecs
[07:01] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:01] <Vashypooh> Is it normal for Linux to only allow 1 thing to access the soundcard at a time?
[07:01] <MrDez> killerbird: see ubotu link
[07:01] <killerbird> up thanks
[07:01] <luisito> Is there a way of put shadows under the menus and windows?
[07:01] <rixth> Vashypooh, no. I think you are using OSS
[07:01] <killerbird> i tried the ubuntu help one and it didn't work so i had to ask :/
[07:02] <Vashypooh> Think i should install nforce platforum drivers?
[07:02] <Doomhammer> hmmm when i try to mount a samba share, i get "smbfs: mount_data version<PHONE_NUMBER> is not supported"
[07:02] <mcdenyer> whats the terminal commadn to change resolutions
[07:02] <rixth> Vashypooh, yoi need to swap the audio sink over to ALSA.
[07:02] <killerbird> oh wait
[07:02] <mcdenyer> and to pull up a list of available resolutions to pick form?
[07:02] <rixth> It is in gconf-editor I think
[07:02] <killerbird> i tried this link and it didn't work
[07:02] <Vashypooh> when Ubuntu starts up it says its starting Alsa
[07:02] <fireonyx> any idea which processor to pick on a Turion64 w/o 64bit support?
[07:02] <digirat> hi, i'm trying to do a "make" and i get the following error: "make: c: Command not found"... what am i missing?
[07:03] <rixth> Vashypooh, yes, but that doesn't nesscessairly mean that applications are using it
[07:03] <Vashypooh> Where do i check to see what its loading
[07:03] <binarydigit> digirat: build-essentials package
[07:03] <digirat> ty
[07:03] <Vashypooh> Im just happy i finally got Linux to work so far and im watching a dvd lol
[07:03] <Doomhammer> digirat: you need the GNU C compiler -- which is included in build-essentials
[07:03] <bombfans> how to upgrade the kernel?
[07:03] <slashx> Mrdez, ok when i did ifconfig i got inet addr: <IP_ADDRESS> and then the bcast and mask
[07:03] <rixth> Vashypooh, run gstreamer-properties
[07:03] <johndarkhorse> fireonyx: say what?
[07:03] <digirat> E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[07:04] <johndarkhorse> digirat: drop the last 's'
[07:04] <phiber-optic> can anybody help me with the starter gdesklet please??
[07:04] <digirat> build-essential is already the newest version.
[07:04] <Vashypooh> Default Output sink is ESD, Default Source is OSS
[07:04] <Vashypooh> switch both to Alsa?
[07:04] <Doomhammer> digirat: try doing apt-get install gcc
[07:05] <digirat> latest version
[07:05] <binarydigit> try "make"
[07:05] <johndarkhorse> digirat: what was your question again?
[07:05] <rixth> Vashypooh, switch default sink to ESD
[07:05] <majd> damnit...i f*ed up
[07:05] <Vashypooh> it is Rixth
[07:05] <slashx> Mrdez, what did u want me to do after i rebooted, and did sudo ifconfi
[07:05] <slashx> ifconfig
[07:05] <Vashypooh> Default Sink Outpit is ESD
[07:05] <Vashypooh> default source is OSS
[07:05] <digirat> i'm doing a make, and i get a "make: c: Command not found" error
[07:05] <MrDez> ya and makre sure eth0 has the right ip now
[07:05] <binarydigit> digirat: apt-get install make
[07:05] <slashx> it does it has the same ip as this laptop
[07:06] <MrDez> 2nd or 3rd line should be 'inet addr:77.##.##.##
[07:06] <fireonyx> which processor do I pick in the make config/processor window... Athlon/Duron/k7 or Opteron/Athlon64/Hammer/K8?
[07:06] <rixth> YOu shouldn't be having any problems then :S What error do you get when two applications try and play sound?
[07:06] <timfrost> digirat, do you have an environment variable CC set?  (echo $CC)
[07:06] <slashx> 2nd line does
[07:06] <MrDez> sepearte from inet6 addr: ABC:123
[07:06] <rixth> !tell fireonyx about repeat
[07:06] <digirat> no i don't tim
[07:06] <GeorgeAScott> how do i run this as a file ? http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[07:06] <fireonyx> hmm, need to register for private tells..
[07:06] <slashx> 3rd line has that
[07:06] <johndarkhorse> fireonyx: for the amd64
[07:06] <slashx> 2nd line has 71.##.##.##
[07:06] <johndarkhorse> fireonyx: athlon64
[07:06] <MrDez> ok good
[07:06] <MrDez> try it
[07:06] <slashx> ?
[07:06] <MrDez> make sure
[07:07] <slashx> what you mean try it
[07:07] <MrDez> u use the same cable that is plugged into the laptop
[07:07] <slashx> i am
[07:07] <binarydigit> GeorgeAScott: save it and do a chmod +x on the file, then you can say ./file.sh
[07:07] <MrDez> then ping from it
[07:07] <MrDez> once its connected
[07:07] <Vashypooh> ah there it goes, it was a seperate option with XMMS
[07:07] <digirat> timfrost where do i set the environment variable cc?
[07:07] <GeorgeAScott> ah.. thank binary
[07:07] <fireonyx> sorry rixth..  getting tells from johndarkhorse, dont have private tells enabled yet..
[07:07] <binarydigit> np
[07:07] <rixth> Ah I see :)
[07:07] <slashx> b4 i got back on my laptop i pinged it and i got a whole bunch of non stop pings
[07:08] <Vashypooh> I do actually get some ALSA errors from Wine tho
[07:08] <vb_coder> #linux
[07:08] <fireonyx> hold on, registering nick..
[07:09] <phiber-optic> can anybody help me with the starter gdesklet please??
[07:09] <MrDez> slashx: could u ping google.com?
[07:09] <slashx> crap forgot to lol
[07:09] <slashx> brb
[07:09] <MrDez> LOL
[07:09] <MrDez> well
[07:09] <MrDez> ur prolly ok then
[07:09] <slashx> lol il go try and then come back
[07:09] <MrDez> open xchat on that box once u got it up
[07:09] <slashx> my bad
[07:09] <slashx> i know
[07:09] <timfrost> digirat, you shouldn't need to. The configure script should find /usr/bin/gcc and use that in the Makefile.
[07:10] <slashx> ive been on ubuntu for over 2 months now but using a wireless connection :)
[07:10] <timfrost> digirat, what are you compiling?
[07:10] <digirat> modauthldap_apache2
[07:10] <digirat> i need it for webdav
[07:10] <moodsoft> in case anyone has joined recently, I could use some help w/ Samba and Ubuntu
[07:11] <nbound> how do i change the properties of a folder and make it recursive?
[07:11] <aranis> nbound do you meand chmod?
[07:11] <nbound> aranis, i dunno, ;)
[07:11] <timfrost> digirat, can you pastebin the Makefile?
[07:11] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell nbound about cli