[04:15] <FFForever> what does not work :)
[04:15] <ShackJack> capitalist: Thought you want to use photorec
[04:16] <SoulPropagation> So I'm on the 7.04 liveCd, running ddrescue. buttttttt, the screen went blank, backlight is stilll on and when I close and open the hinge  it does this weird thing where it ... it kinda looks like the screen turned into a scanline-thing
[04:16] <FFForever> can ppl really hack linux passwords?
[04:16] <ShackJack> Branden: Any other keys mixed up?
[04:16] <hendrixski> those mobile ubuntu projects coming out... are they for like cell phones and stuff or would they also work well with a DVR or that kind of an appliance?
[04:16] <SoulPropagation> FFForever: of course
[04:16] <capitalist> ShackJacl: should i use photorec or testdisk?
[04:16] <ianm_> within the last hour I've been seeing some very unusual 3-5 second pauses in random apps.  dmesg and tail /var/log/messages shows nothing odd-- anywhere else I can look?
[04:16] <FFForever> why is linux so "secure" if ppl can hack the passwords and exploit it?
[04:16] <Branden> Yes. [ ]  ' ; (includeing Shift)
[04:16] <ShackJack> capitalist: it's the same package (install testdisk) but photorec is what recovers files..
[04:16] <leperkhanz> Hi, one of my hard drives randomly showed up unmounted, and now it won't let me mount it in gparted.
[04:16] <leperkhanz> any ideas?
[04:17] <jayde_drag0n> okay so i'm probably going to be asking a lot of questions today... but i would like something comparable to itunes.. so i can still use my ipod.. and play all my music... any suggestions for this newbie?
[04:17] <FFForever> leperkhanz, what file system?
[04:17] <leperkhanz> reiserfs
[04:17] <vip3rousmango> I was in the middle of a youtube vid when my sound cutout. Thight it was odd, tried XMMS player to see if an mp3 would play and got: "Please Check Your Sound Card is Configured, corrent plugin selected, or check that another program isn't blocking the sound card"
[04:17] <ShackJack> Branden: I trust you;ve been in keyboard settings to make sure proper layout, et al is selected..
[04:17] <hendrixski> FFForever, why are safes so secure if anyone with a key can get in and steal from them?
[04:17] <kitche> jayde_drag0n: banshee prehaps
[04:17] <Branden> How can I get to that?
[04:17] <FFForever> what key :)
[04:17] <FFForever> i only see thumb print scanners :D
[04:17] <leperkhanz> the combination.
[04:17] <dissection> ;]
[04:18] <vip3rousmango> FFForever: those are easy to crack..
[04:18] <leperkhanz> they better check for a pulse too then.
[04:18] <ShackJack> Branden: (and others)  address people when responding so their IM beeps or they may miss your response...
[04:18] <leperkhanz> i'll get you a thumb by 3 o'clock.  It's not pretty but there are ways.
[04:18] <hendrixski> does anyone know if the mobile versions of Ubuntu being worked on intended for small things like cell phones, or would also be bigger on larger linux appliances, like a DVR for example?
[04:18] <FFForever> well my safe needs 3 keys....., but i don't wanna tell ppl how 2 crack my safe so ill leave it @ that :D
[04:18] <ShackJack> Branden: Under prefs... Keyboard
[04:18] <leperkhanz> so anyone know why I'm suddenly missing the reiserfs partition with all my mp3s?
[04:19] <vip3rousmango> ..how many safes have 3 keys?
[04:19] <Branden> ShackJack: I'm on Ubuntu Server
[04:19] <vip3rousmango> thats really odd
[04:19] <ShackJack> Branden: Ahh.. then you might want to look at your xmodmao in /usr/share
[04:19] <leperkhanz> It says it's unmounted, but there's no option to mount it.
[04:19] <ShackJack> Branden: xmodmap
[04:19] <vip3rousmango> I was in the middle of a youtube vid when my sound cutout. Thight it was odd, tried XMMS player to see if an mp3 would play and got: "Please Check Your Sound Card is Configured, corrent plugin selected, or check that another program isn't blocking the sound card"
[04:19] <hendrixski> FFForever, passwords are like keys, your safe is only as secure as the person who holds the keys
[04:19] <leperkhanz> There is an option to format it though, but I REALLY don't want to do that.
[04:19] <leperkhanz> or the thumbprint.
[04:20] <Branden> ShackJack - How do I do this?
[04:20] <weltschmerz> why does this say 24 and not 255?
[04:20] <weltschmerz> For Full Read Write Permissions allowing any computer from <IP_ADDRESS> through <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:20] <weltschmerz> ./files <IP_ADDRESS>/24(rw,no_root_squash,async)
[04:20] <kitche> weltschmerz: /24 is the subclass
[04:20] <Scunizi> !ieee1394
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ieee1394 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <weltschmerz> kitche ?
[04:21] <ShackJack> Branden: You might to google for more info, but you can edit whatever xmodmap you're set to use so the keys work right...  cat /usr/share/xmodmap/xmodmap.us-101   as an example...
[04:21] <bulmer> rather /24 is the mask
[04:21] <SoulPropagation> !1394
[04:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 1394 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:21] <weltschmerz> bulmer what's that got to do with 255?
[04:21] <astro76> weltschmerz, /24 is another way of representing a bitmask of <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:21] <astro76> weltschmerz, it's the nuber of 1s
[04:21] <ShackJack> Branden: I'm afraid I'm not intimately familiar with server setup (i.e. if it has config)... beside dpkg xmodmap --reconfigure ?
[04:21] <bulmer> weltschmerz: it has got to do when subnetting..separating network from hosts
[04:21] <FFForever> can i do an exact disk copy?
[04:21] <kitche> bulmer: yeah :)
[04:22] <jayde_drag0n> okay no matter what i try to install i get the error "dependancy is not satisfiable"
[04:22] <FFForever> (even copy bad spots of a disk)
[04:22] <vbabiy> Hey does any one know how to edit Filters in Evoulution
[04:22] <blackjeebus> When I plug my Sprint Connection Card into the PCMCIA slot on this laptop [Dell Latitude D520] , the system immediately locks. But my Verizon one works perfectly. Is there something special I need to do for the Sprint card [Merlin S560] ?
[04:22] <Branden> ShackJack - It don't seem to have any directories, when I cd home or anything it don't work.
[04:22] <leperkhanz> I have zero idea what to do with this suddenly missing reiserfs partition.
[04:22] <GamingX> Guys can you tell me any other IRC client for Ubuntu other than XChat, I am not able to start it up...
[04:22] <leperkhanz> I'm open to ideas.
[04:22] <FFForever> mount it?
[04:22] <weltschmerz> astro76 interesting.
[04:22] <leperkhanz> yeah, how?
[04:22] <ShackJack> Branden: Ermm.. yeah, they're there :) try using forward slash   cd /home
[04:23] <leperkhanz> there's no mount option in gparted.
[04:23] <FFForever> !mount
[04:23] <jayde_drag0n> gamingX: i'm using GAIM it seems to work beautifully .. but i'm a newbie
[04:23] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:23] <weltschmerz> anyone know what i would put in the blanks "network" and "netmask" to share something via nfs from nautilus's automated sharing system?
[04:23] <weltschmerz> i'm assuming the mask is just <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:23] <leperkhanz> it's grayed out, where the mount should be.
[04:23] <ShackJack> Branden: Also sudo dpkg-reconfigure xmodmap something something.... don't know exactly..
[04:23] <leperkhanz> in gparted.
[04:23] <kitche> bulmer: I probably meant subnet mask instead of subclass
[04:23] <FFForever> !diskmounter
[04:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:23] <Scunizi> GamingX, irssi
[04:23] <ProfessorTom> I've got an HP Pavillion dv6000. It's an X2...neither the Dapper 32 or 64 bit live CD will run nor will the Fiesty 64 Live CD. Any thoughts?
[04:23] <Branden> ShackJack Ok thank you, I'll see what I get with the info you have given me.
[04:24] <bulmer> kitche right o
[04:24] <GamingX> I dont know how to install the plugin since I am a newbie too..
[04:24] <ShackJack> Branden: Also maybe dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:24] <FFForever> what gfx card?
[04:24] <riotkittie> ProfessorTom: elaborate on "won't run".... how far do you get? can you boot the CDs?
[04:24] <FFForever> (tom)
[04:24] <dissection> GamingX: In Terminal, type "sudo apt-get install irssi"
[04:25] <freebooter> So far i am loving ubuntu linux
[04:25] <ProfessorTom> riotkittie: yes it will "boot" it got as far as loading the swap space and then quit, even when using the SafeMode
[04:25] <ShackJack> O.K. I gotta go pick my kitchen floor tile - laters!
[04:25] <GamingX> Gaim requires an IRC plugin, from what I have heard..
[04:25] <ShackJack> GamingX: Nope...
[04:25] <ShackJack> ProfessorTom: Did you check disk for defects or MD5 checksum?
[04:26] <ShackJack> ProfessorTom: Could just be bad burn...
[04:26] <GamingX> does Gaim allow file transfers etc.?
[04:26] <thebigham> How do i install counter strike to ubuntu with a CD?
[04:26] <dec0de> anyone installed the ALSA drivers for a Intel AC '97 sound card?
[04:26] <ProfessorTom> maybe...but it's happened with all the discs...yet other CDs/DVDs I burn with that drive work. Very odd
[04:27] <kitche> thebigham: wine /path/to/setup.exe
[04:27] <ShackJack> GamingX: Check out http://pidgin.im/pidgin/home/ for deets (Pidgin is new Gaim) if you want pidgin - getdeb.net
[04:27] <riotkittie> ProfessorTom: all the discs? you have burned multiples?
[04:27] <leperkhanz> it has no flags, does it need a flag?
[04:27] <leperkhanz> which flag?
[04:27] <riotkittie> ProfessorTom: were they burned from the same source file ?
[04:27] <cafuego> a dutch flag.
[04:28] <leperkhanz> why would I be unable to mount it in gparted?
[04:28] <nephish> anyone here use 64bit ubuntu with an AMD 64 ?
[04:28] <thebigham> kitche: in the terminal?
[04:28] <riotkittie> it's probably a hardware issue, though. rather than a bad burn. but check the MD5 to be sure.
[04:28] <ProfessorTom> riotkittie: I burned the Dapper 32 and 64 bit versions along with the 64 bit version of Fiesty
[04:28] <kitche> thebigham: yes
[04:28] <jayde_drag0n> anyone who can help (and i know its annoying but pleas pm me.. i get lost trying to find your response) no matter what i try to install i get the error "dependancy is not satisfiable"  and i am too new to figure this out on my own from what i'm researching... if someone can walk me thru what i need to do it will be much appreciated
[04:28] <ProfessorTom> riotkittie: will do
[04:29] <nephish> What is your take on 64 bit ? stuff in the forums is kinda dated
[04:29] <riotkittie> ProfessorTom: if youve burned three different versions and this is a recurring issue across the board, i'm going to say the MD5 is fine and its a hardware issue
[04:29] <blackjeebus> No one with knowledge on PCMCIA issues?
[04:29] <stewlatin> Can someone help me, I'm trying to update to 7.10 herd 2 and i get this message in my terminal "warning: could not initiate dbus
[04:29] <stewlatin> current dist not found in meta-release file"
[04:29] <riotkittie> you can install using the alternate CD, but i dont think there's a workaround that will work with the live discs :\
[04:30] <r33ddl3r> I have a weird issue w/my CPU fan after updating to feisty... it... stops spinning as soon as the os starts to load. Havent really doen any extensive troubleshooting but wondering if anyone here observed the same behavior
[04:30] <kitche> stewlatin: #ubuntu+1 for gusty support
[04:30] <leperkhanz> should I try to mount the partition in the terminal?  If so what is the command?
[04:30] <riotkittie> gusty? dear god. :X
[04:30] <stewlatin> thanks
[04:30] <thebigham> kitche: wats the path to the cd? =(
[04:30] <dec0de> make *** [compile]  Error1 ... anyone got any insight why im getting this error?
[04:30] <kitche> thebigham: umm whever it's mounted to :)
[04:30] <Zambezi> Can anyone mention a torrentclient using libtorrent? rtorrent is one, but I need a name of another. I know there's a page, but can't find it.
[04:30] <kitche> dec0de: that's not the error the error is before that
[04:30] <bulmer> leperkhanz: what you trying to do?
[04:30] <thebigham> what you mean mounted
[04:30] <ProfessorTom> riotkittie: I think so to. What I'm wondering is if I use the text version of the CDs, will it actually install?
[04:31] <thebigham> i have the actual CD
[04:31] <leperkhanz> my reiserfs drive is unmountable in gparted.
[04:31] <kitche> Zambezi: rtorrent is the only one that is active I believe the other ones died
[04:31] <dec0de> kitche: thanks i didn't realize that
[04:31] <r33ddl3r> thebigham, it is probably in /media/cdrom
[04:31] <crysalys> what is gusty?
[04:31] <kitche> thebigham: you most mount the cdrom first before getting the path to exe
[04:31] <kitche> !gutsy | crysalys
[04:31] <ubotu> crysalys: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[04:31] <Sensae> I just installed ubuntu server, and cannot install anything because aptitude and apt-get both try to install / update a bunch of packages, no matter what I try, and fails on the first.
[04:31] <bulmer> leperkhanz: what you trying to do? with gparted?
[04:31] <thebigham> how do i mount it?
[04:31] <leperkhanz> it just suddenly disappeared from the desktop, and now I can't mount it in gparted.
[04:31] <riotkittie> ProfessorTom: it *should*. everyone i've seen with issues with the live disc has been able to install with the text install just fine, and get it running, for the most part
[04:32] <r33ddl3r> insert the CD.. it should automount it for you.. if not... "man mount"
[04:32] <kitche> thebigham: if your on gnome double click the cdrom image on your desktop should auto mount it
[04:32] <Zambezi> kitche, Oh. Cause a guy is looking for a webgui and I'm pretty sure there is one, but he can't find it.
[04:32] <bulmer> leperkhanz: which partition is it you're referring to?
[04:32] <r33ddl3r> ugh... "desktop"
[04:32] <leperkhanz> bulmer any idea why it would have disappeared, /dev/sdb2
[04:32] <thebigham> when idouble clicked it on the desktop, it opens up with file broweser
[04:32] <thebigham> cdrom0
[04:32] <r33ddl3r> thebigham, do you see yer files there?
[04:32] <leperkhanz> my reiserfs partition with all my mp3s.
[04:32] <bulmer> leperkhanz: is that a usb drive or usb device?
[04:33] <thebigham> yeah
[04:33] <thebigham> all of them
[04:33] <riotkittie> r33ddl3r: why are you "ugh"ing "desktop"?
[04:33] <Sensae> Anyone know why aptitude would try to update the system and fail on a clean install?
[04:33] <leperkhanz> nope, SATA drive
[04:33] <r33ddl3r> thebigham, then it is /media/cdrom0
[04:33] <leperkhanz> internal.
[04:33] <tupa> how do I setup xserver-xorg-video-unichrome driver, I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but unichrome is not listed in the driver section
[04:33] <r33ddl3r> riotkittie, ever heard of ratpoison?
[04:33] <entropie> can anybody explain me how to set up the fstab (with UUID) after a manual feisty setup (from chroot). I dont have a /dev
[04:33] <bulmer> leperkhanz: cat /etc/fstab and see if that sata drive has an entry
[04:33] <ProfessorTom> ok. Now I have an IRC question. If this is the wrong place to ask, just tell me where to go ask. How can I share my files such that people can do an @find and !nick filename ? is that a mIRC specific thing, or can that be done with XChat on Ubuntu?
[04:33] <kitche> r33ddl3r: ever heard of dwm :)
[04:33] <leperkhanz> OK.
[04:34] <Maurox> Where do i can find the channel of differents OP ?
[04:34] <riotkittie> ratpoison.... uhhh, err... uhmm. window manager, r33ddl3r ?
[04:34] <jayde_drag0n> please can someone help me?? i can't install anything
[04:34] <leperkhanz> # Entry for /dev/sdb1 :
[04:34] <leperkhanz> UUID=96FE0261FE023A4F /media/sdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[04:34] <bulmer> jayde_drag0n: what are you trying to install?
[04:34] <r33ddl3r> riotkittie, right.. no "clicking" :)
[04:34] <cables> jayde_drag0n, if you're more specific, we can help you a lot better :)
[04:34] <leperkhanz> is the problem that it thinks it's a ntfs drive?
[04:34] <Sensae> I can't install anything either. When I try to apt-get, it tries to update the system and fails
[04:34] <bulmer> leperkhanz: you need to prefix a nick to your response or else it will be missed
[04:35] <riotkittie> ah. no clicking. i vaguely remember that. i didnt use it for a long period of time. i thought it was.... ugly :x
[04:35] <r33ddl3r> kitche, yeah... i'm using fluxbox now.. but its getting tooo... outdated
[04:35] <ProfessorTom> Sensae: did you sudo apt-get install packagename ?
[04:35] <Sensae> Yes, I did
[04:35] <cables> Sensae, sounds like a package failed to install
[04:35] <leperkhanz> bulmer: OK.  Is it a problem with ntfs-3g?
[04:35] <cables> Sensae, what happens when you do sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[04:35] <bulmer> leperkhanz: sudo mount -a
[04:35] <r33ddl3r> Sensae, tried sudo apt-get install
[04:35] <riotkittie> does anyone know off hand if the ati drivers (not the open source, but *ati* driver) will work with a x300 or whatever? i'm getting a "new" computer :o
[04:35] <Sensae> ProfessorTom: I can do something simple like sudo apt-get install ee, and it will try to install about 80 xorg packages, and fails on the first
[04:36] <riotkittie> and i want multimonitor goodness under linux.  :|
[04:36] <IndyGunFreak> riotkittie: its hard w/ ATI.., but i think it can be done..
[04:36] <kitche> riotkittie: so you mean fglrx it should
[04:36] <IndyGunFreak> much easier w/ Nvidia
[04:36] <cables> leperkhanz, if you're trying to use NTFS drives under Linux, try the graphical NTFS Configuration Tool (available in add/remove, not sure what the package name is)
[04:36] <Sensae> cables: Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[04:36] <riotkittie> yea, kitche. thats what i mean. thankies :D
[04:36] <cables> Sensae, I'm not much of an APT guru so I'm afraid I can't help you.
[04:36] <r33ddl3r> kitche, dwm - is that your choice?
[04:37] <riotkittie> IndyGunFreak:  yea i know :\  my husband hates his current nvidia card so maybe i can steal it
[04:37] <Sensae> :/
[04:37] <kitche> r33ddl3r: yeah I like how I have my desktop setup with three xterms and one firefox xterms on the bottom and firefox all the way across the top
[04:37] <IndyGunFreak> riotkittie: lol, now you're thinking
[04:37] <ProfessorTom> Sensae: what error message do you get when apt-get fails?
[04:37] <m1r> has anyone worked with sabayon ?
[04:37] <leperkhanz> bulmer, cables: No, I'm just missing this one drive for some reason.
[04:37] <Sensae> ProfessorTom: Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[04:37] <kitche> m1r: wrong channel to ask that :)
[04:37] <m1r> :)
[04:38] <leperkhanz> bulmer, cables, just tried sudu mount -a.  Status unchanged.  Failed to mount several in use disks.
[04:38] <m1r> srys
[04:38] <cables> m1r, how 'bout trying... #sabayon :)
[04:38] <r33ddl3r> riotkittie, I had an issue w/nvidia during the install.. it was erring, complaining it couldnt find any [Screens]
[04:38] <ProfessorTom> for a minute there, I thought m1r  was talking about Sybian LOL!
[04:38] <bulmer> leperkhanz: reboot and see if it recovers
[04:38] <m1r> ye lol
[04:38] <leperkhanz> still no /media/sdb2 in my media directory.
[04:38] <blackjeebus> When I plug my Sprint Connection Card into the PCMCIA slot on this laptop [Dell Latitude D520] , the system immediately locks. But my Verizon one works perfectly. Is there something special I need to do for the Sprint card [Merlin S560] ?
[04:38] <leperkhanz> bulmer: tried that.
[04:38] <riotkittie> mmm, lack of screens. that sounds like fun.
[04:38] <leperkhanz> will try again.
[04:38] <ProfessorTom> Sensae: were there any other errors before that error?
[04:38] <m1r> well i uninstaled it, but now i cant access tty1-ttyx
[04:39] <crysalys> sweet!  i just got Feisty! and now a new animal comes along!!  I love ubuntu
[04:39] <Sensae> ProfessorTom: Looks like normal operation, it's trying to install xubuntu-desktop plus all the dependencies
[04:39] <bulmer> leperkhanz: yeah tryi it again..and maybe this time itll recover :)
[04:39] <ProfessorTom> Sensae: have you tried this on another machine?
[04:40] <oem> hola hay alguien de espaa o mexico por aca ?
[04:40] <Sensae> ProfessorTom: Tried which? Apt-getting in general or installing xubuntu-desktop as a package?
[04:40] <oem> o alguien que hable espaol
[04:40] <r33ddl3r> riotkittie, i'm sure your MB comes w/some type of on-board video chip (i860?).. just boot up w/that screen..then dlaod the nvidia drive, configure your xorg and kick-off the install
[04:40] <cables> !es | oem
[04:40] <ubotu> oem: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:40] <thebigham> when installing counter strike source with a CD, it asked me to insert the disk 2, but i cant eject the disk 1 from the cd-rom, it says that disk is currently mounted, and could not be unmount because the device is busy
[04:40] <Maurox> Is here an admin or op that could ban in other ubuntu channel ?
[04:40] <ProfessorTom> Sensae: installing xubuntu-desktop as a package
[04:40] <oem> ha ok
[04:40] <oem> muchas gracias
[04:40] <cables> Maurox, if you need an op, go to #ubuntu-ops
[04:40] <Maurox> cables:thnks
[04:40] <r33ddl3r> oem, de nada
[04:40] <Sensae> ProfessorTom: Yes, I did it on the same machine and it worked. Then I wiped it and reinstalled to set up a RAID, and now it doesn't
[04:41] <ProfessorTom> Sensae: That's a bummer man!
[04:41] <GamingX> Guys I looked up pidgin what version must I download
[04:41] <Sensae> :/ Guess I'll have to reinstall with a xubuntu cd
[04:41] <cables> GamingX, I'd recommend sticking with Gaim until Gutsy is released, but there's a good .deb from http://getdeb.net
[04:41] <m1r> sabayon ppl sleep at this time :)
[04:42] <ProfessorTom> Sensae: and I take it that you're using the same version of the OS that you had on the machine before?
[04:42] <Sensae> Yup
[04:42] <entropie> anyone can explain how to get the UUID of a partition wihtout /Dev?
[04:42] <ProfessorTom> :(
[04:42] <cables> GamingX, you can get it here (you need both pidgin and pidgin-data, both are on this page. Don't use the Album plugin or it'll cause crashes in this version) http://www.getdeb.net/release.php?id=1045
[04:42] <FFForever> how do i burn an iso in ubuntu?
[04:42] <ProfessorTom> you may get stuck reinstalling. Double bummer
[04:43] <cables> FFForever, right click in and hit "write to disc"
[04:43] <Sensae> ProfessorTom: Not the end of the world, this install is half an hour old
[04:43] <ProfessorTom> Sensae: there's some good news
[04:43] <cables> FFForever, however, if you notice reliability problems with that burner, there's something you can do that may fix it.
[04:44] <FFForever> what is that? (if there are any)
[04:44] <Sensae> Now for a more general question. Is xfce light enough for a system with half a gig of RAM to run a server, or should I go with something lighter? (It needs to be able to surf the net, preferably firefox, and run a LAMP, svn server, samba, ftp)
[04:45] <cables> FFForever, you mean the way to improve reliability?
[04:45] <FFForever> yeh
[04:45] <cables> FFForever, alt-f2 and type "gconf-editor"
[04:45] <capitalist> i am dual booting on a mac and want to mount the other partitions, but i don
[04:45] <capitalist> 't
[04:45] <asc> Sensae: xfce is light enough for a system with 128 MB to run a server, but it kinda depends on how much you want to server.
[04:45] <cables> FFForever, when that's open I'll tell you more
[04:45] <capitalist> think i see it with fdisk -l
[04:45] <FFForever> ok lemme write this disk real fast :P
[04:45] <cables> FFForever, don't
[04:45] <Sensae> asc: As in how much usage it will get?
[04:46] <cables> FFForever, hold on
[04:46] <cables> FFForever, you haven't fixed the reliability thing yet, so let's do that first
[04:46] <asc> Sensae: Probably 256 would be good if you want to use firefox as well.
[04:46] <crysalys> is there widescreen support for Feisty?
[04:46] <cables> !res | crysalys
[04:46] <ubotu> crysalys: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:46] <FFForever> i am on a slow computer so it might take a few mins 2 load.....
[04:46] <FFForever> 126mb of ram :D
[04:46] <cables> FFForever, okay, when the gconf-editor thing pops up just tell me and we'll continue
[04:47] <cables> FFForever, have you tried Xubuntu?
[04:47] <FFForever> i like gnome :)
[04:47] <FFForever> and no
[04:47] <cables> FFForever, ah, ok.
[04:47] <Sensae> It feels almost the same as gnome, aalmost.
[04:47] <FFForever> i don't like xcfs
[04:47] <ProfessorTom> Sensae: I'm running SSH, Samba, Apache, Opera, Firefox, shells, XChat, as well a a print server on my Ubuntu box that is running 512 MB of PC 2800 on a Celeron
[04:47] <asc> Sensae: Not sure about actual ram usage, probably 32-50ish on 128 MB, without paging a lot.
[04:47] <FFForever> Sensae, xcfs is nothing like gnome...., and it "feels" noting like it lol
[04:48] <cables> FFForever, you clearly haven't tried KDE. Now THAT'S different from Gnome.
[04:48] <FFForever> ok its opened :)
[04:48] <FFForever> i like kde :)
[04:48] <cables> FFForever, if you like certain elements of Gnome, you can mix and match
[04:48] <FFForever> reminds me of xp :P
[04:48] <jayde_drag0n> is there anyone here who has a few minutes to spare for me and my problem??? please pm me... i get lost trying to find responses... and i am multi-tasking so i navigate from the window.. then i don't know if anyone is helping me.... but please.. i can't install anything... all i get is the error "dependancies not satisfiable"
[04:48] <Falstius> I'm trying to find information about compatibility problems between the nvidia driver, a 7800gs and ubuntu 7.04.  Has anyone heard anything?
[04:48] <Sensae> ProfessorTom: Gnome or XFCE, or neither?
[04:48] <jayde_drag0n> i'm a girl, a newbie, i'm nice and follow directions well i promise
[04:49] <ProfessorTom> Sensae: Gnome. My bad
[04:49] <cables> FFForever, now, in the configuration editor window, go to /apps/nautilus-cd-burner
[04:49] <Sensae> ProfessorTom: Well that's even better, leaves me without worries :p
[04:49] <FFForever> ok
[04:49] <cables> FFForever, in the right panel you should see a few options. You should then check off Burnproof and then exit the config editor
[04:49] <tupa> how do I install xserver-xorg-video-unichrome driver??
[04:49] <FFForever> burn proof is off :P
[04:49] <tupa> I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but its not listed
[04:49] <cables> FFForever, turn it on then
[04:50] <ProfessorTom> Sensae: I'll tell you what I've been thinking about: getting a CoreDuo2 with the 4MB L2 cache and 2 GB of DDR2
[04:50] <FFForever> cables, thanks
[04:50] <cables> FFForever, not so fast
[04:50] <milllmannn> anyone know a good resource for setting up MYSQL and Postfix on Dapper?
[04:50] <ProfessorTom> that'd run Ubuntu just fine
[04:50] <elpargo> I know this is not windows but I think this happens a lot here, anyone knows how I can make the windows installer skip the MBR part
[04:50] <asc> tupa: 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-unichrome'
[04:51] <Sensae> ProfessorTom: That's the current setup on my desktop
[04:51] <crysalys> sorry i didnt catch that link.  is there support for widescreen in Feisty
[04:51] <cables> FFForever, once you exit the config editor, hit alt-f2 and type < nautilus -q && nautilus > (yes, there are supposed to be 2 &s)
[04:51] <ProfessorTom> Sensae: really?  It's running Vista.
[04:51] <bign88> newbie here - need some help
[04:51] <FFForever> kk, ill just reboot :P
[04:51] <noiesmo> elpargo: not really but heres a guide to fix http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[04:52] <FFForever> i need 2 put ram in neways :P
[04:52] <ProfessorTom> just like every other version of their ***** OS
[04:52] <elpargo> noiesmo: I know that it's just that windows won't install
[04:52] <ProfessorTom> Sensae: pop in a Live CD when you got the time and report back
[04:52] <crysalys> is there Feisty suppport for widescreen
[04:52] <bign88> I want to install Umbutu, but I seem to have only the live CD
[04:52] <Sensae> ProfessorTom: Sure
[04:52] <elpargo> noiesmo: since the start of the disk is not windows it won't write the MBR in the first plac
[04:52] <cables> bign88, that's all you need
[04:52] <bign88> am I an idiot?
[04:52] <elpargo> place*
[04:53] <noiesmo> elpargo: windows likes to be on the primary drive and first partition are you trying to install to secondary drive
[04:53] <conorkirkpatrick> What is the (apt-get) package name for sdl? (also sdl_mixer and image
[04:53] <cables> bign88, just start the LiveCD and when it's booted up hit the Install button and go through the installer. It's pretty simple, if you need help just ask us.
[04:53] <bign88> I want Winblows to go away
[04:53] <ProfessorTom> bign88: there should be an "installl" shortcut on your Live CD desktop
[04:53] <korrrrrrnn> ne 1 know where i can install drivers for geforce 6200.....it downloaded but only lets me run in 800*600
[04:53] <bign88> yeah, but I am left with a no-flash cursor
[04:53] <korrrrrrnn> if i try to go higher it freezes
[04:53] <conorkirkpatrick> korrrrrrrrnn: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new
[04:54] <cables> bign88, if you want to wipe out Windows, there's an option in the installer to wipe the drive. However, I recommend not doing that until you're used to Ubuntu.
[04:54] <elpargo> noiesmo: yes it's moronic but I can't move my partitions so I'll have to reinstall the whole thing... ****** OS...
[04:54] <Sensae> I'd probably be running ubuntu on my main if I didn't game, I'm thinking of picking up an acer laptop, nuking it and installing ubuntu
[04:54] <cables> bign88, until you're sure you can do everything in Ubuntu that you want to do, I'd recommend dual-booting for a while
[04:54] <noiesmo> elpargo: :(
[04:54] <elpargo> Sensae: I was over it but got into a game so I need that **** again.
[04:54] <bign88> I am a gambler and a tinkerer
[04:54] <GamingX> I finished downloading pidgin, how do I install it?
[04:54] <conorkirkpatrick> What is the (apt-get) package name for sdl? (also sdl_mixer and image
[04:54] <conorkirkpatrick> !sdl
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sdl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:55] <Hail_Spacecake> does ls -l tell you the filesize of the files in a directory?
[04:55] <bruenig> GamingX, what is the extension on the thing you downloaded?
[04:55] <cables> GamingX, double click the pidgin-data .deb file and go through the installer
[04:55] <cables> bruenig, I got this, I pointed him to a .deb
[04:55] <bruenig> Hail_Spacecake, yes, ls -lh however will give you a more readable output
[04:55] <bruenig> cableroy, k
[04:55] <cables> GamingX, when that's done, do the pidgin .deb package the same way
[04:55] <noiesmo> conorkirkpatrick: you can use apt-cache search packagename to find available packages
[04:55] <bruenig> s/roy/s/
[04:55] <cables> bruenig, heh, I'm untabbable
[04:56] <Who_> s anyone have any idea why I might be getting very slow data transfer rates for two USB2 hard disks transferring data between them?
[04:56] <cables> Who_, well, if they're on the same USB controller, twice the data has to go through
[04:56] <exul8891> Hey, i just installed ubuntu for the first time (on a new laptop).  My video card is not support (nvidia geforce 8400m G), so the X video driver is not loading up.  My wireless card intel wifi 4965 AGN is also no supported. Anyone know of any ways i can get drivers for my wireless and graphics card?
[04:56] <conorkirkpatrick> noiesmo: thnx :D
[04:56] <cables> Who_, also, one may be slow
[04:56] <Who_> hmm...and the odds are I just have one USB controller, right?
[04:57] <Who_> (I am just using the ports on my mb, cables)
[04:57] <ProfessorTom> Who_: with USB the ports slow down to the speed of the slowest device
[04:57] <PJ> Alguem do Brasil ai ???????
[04:57] <noiesmo> conorkirkpatrick: np
[04:57] <cables> Who_, well, I think you can check in System>Preferences>Hardware Information
[04:57] <Who_> So if I had _any_ 1.1 device connected it would bring the hard drives down? cables, ProfessorTom?
[04:58] <GamingX> thanks can someone tell me how to make changes to the Ubuntu Bootloader
[04:58] <ProfessorTom> Who_: 'fraid so. Welcome to USB.
[04:58] <cables> Who_, definitely, because how can it write data to one faster than it can read from the other and vise-versa?
[04:58] <IndyGunFreak> GamingX: what kind of changes?
[04:58] <cables> Who_, even with 2 controllers you'd have the same problem really
[04:58] <Falstius> Who_: ProfessorTom: I don't think that is true.
[04:58] <dissection> I didn't know about this, about USB. Glad I'm lurkidling in the channel. I learn something new every now and then :D
[04:58] <ProfessorTom> I say that because I was reading a thread on USB vs. Firewire yesterday
[04:58] <Sensae> Does gparted support setting up RAID?
[04:59] <GamingX> I have dual boot I need to change the default option to windows...
[04:59] <Who_> cables: I was meaning - 1 usb 1.1 card reader, and THEN the two hard disks between each other... cables, ProfessorTom
[04:59] <systemd0wn> Question, how do i update my kernel in feisty to the latest (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[04:59] <Dinde> sunken: i think i'm damned, i did an usb key wich works well on my desktop computer when i try to boot it on my thinkpad it just display Boot Error
[04:59] <noiesmo> GamingX: /boot/grub/menu.1st
[04:59] <GamingX> what does it do?
[04:59] <noiesmo> GamingX: is the menu list you can make changes there
[04:59] <cables> Who_, well, either way, if one is 1.1, it's going to be slow whether they're on 2 controllers or 1. But with 1 it's even slower
[04:59] <noiesmo> GamingX: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.1st
[04:59] <cables> GamingX, to edit it hit alt-f2 and type < gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst >
[05:00] <cables> GamingX, you probably want to read the comments in the file because I'm not sure how to set the default
[05:00] <dec0de> anyone installed the cisco vpn client?
[05:00] <aKKiLLa> USB vs FireWire all comes down to FireWIre being DMA (Direct Memory Access) which means it doesn't have to go through the CPU to access memory
[05:00] <Falstius> systemd0wn: build your own kernel.  If you have to ask here, most like you're going to break your system trying to do it.
[05:00] <Who_> cables: I have 3 nforce2 USB Controllers listed - but I notice that I've got both disks on the same one. WOn't do that again :)
[05:01] <Sensae> ProfessorTom: I'm burning a disc right now, once it's done I can throw in a liveCD
[05:01] <Who_> ProfessorTom: can I confirm - do you think that just USING a USB1.1 device (I.E having it plugged in) on a controller but not transferring any data between it and a disk will reduce all devices on that controller to 1.1 speed?
[05:01] <dissection> noiesmo: in menu.lst is it harmless to only change the title of the OS's?
[05:01] <LDZ420> In the scope of performance is there a best practice when it comes to the "location" of your swap partition?
[05:02] <systemd0wn> Falstius, eh' i was just hoping that someone would have a link to a tutorial that has already been done.  If i do break it i can always boot with a live cd and restore the old kernel
[05:02] <ProfessorTom> Sensae: can't wait!
[05:02] <ProfessorTom> Who_: I think so, but that is just my limited understanding. Let me google it for you
[05:02] <dr_willis> LDZ420,  Best = fastest access. would be across several hard drives. at the start of the drives (i think) or would it be at the end...
[05:02] <sayers> !amd64
[05:02] <ubotu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/jv6tc for more information.
[05:02] <Who_> ProfessorTom: don't let me get so lazy! I'll do it!
[05:02] <dr_willis> LDZ420,  i forget. :)  I tend to keep mine on its own not used a lot drive.
[05:02] <Who_> ProfessorTomL Thanks though!
[05:03] <Who_> ProfessorTom: - got name wrong - thanks
[05:03] <noiesmo> dissection: you can change the title no probs
[05:03] <Falstius> systemd0wn: you can leave the old kernel installed and just select it in grub (hit esc when grub is loading to see a list of kernels).  Assuming you don't accidentally wipe the old kernel.
[05:03] <ProfessorTom> Who_: a blogging buddy of mine always posts links to google.com or wikipedia.com without linking the article.  SOmetimes I wonder thogh - I think the first few 'www.google.com' responses I got probably helped me learn stuff...
[05:05] <bign88> what prep work beside file back ups should be done before install?
[05:05] <jayde_drag0n> professorTom: did you run out of time to help me?
[05:05] <ProfessorTom> what's really aggervating about him is that he does it on LJ in threaded comments where we're DISCUSSING The ISSUE
[05:05] <ProfessorTom> jayde_drag0n, no, I never got a PM from you
[05:05] <LDZ420> dr_willis: yeah.. currently not an issue but I was thinking about if creating a server.. if there was a best practice
[05:06] <bign88> heh
[05:06] <jayde_drag0n> weird.. i typed in there
[05:06] <dr_willis> LDZ420,  if you spread the swap out over several drives its suppose to be more efficient/faster. i hear.
[05:06] <ProfessorTom> could me XChat. Let me try something
[05:06] <bign88> faq
[05:07] <jayde_drag0n> i can see you typing just fine
[05:07] <jayde_drag0n> buit i don't think you can see me
[05:07] <ProfessorTom> no....don't know why...let me hop on mIRC
[05:07] <Who_> Righty: Can anyone help me get a decent bug report done on problems my SATA and RAID controller causes. I get hard (_really hard) crashes if using the sata drive
[05:07] <jayde_drag0n> do you have AIM, msn or yahoo.. if thats not too much of an imposition?
[05:07] <ProfessorTom> sure AIM
[05:07] <jayde_drag0n> those seem to work fine with all of my contacts
[05:08] <ProfessorTom> I'll put it in the PM window
[05:08] <jayde_drag0n> thank you
[05:08] <ProfessorTom> yw
[05:08] <crysalys> what do I use to make MP3's from a music cd?
[05:08] <Who_> crysalys: soundjuicer is installed by default on ubuntu
[05:08] <exul8891> hey im installing ubuntu and the installer seems to be stuck 'installed br1tty-x11' is the screen its on.  Any idea what i should do? just let it sit?
[05:08] <exul8891> been on that % for atleast 10 minutes
[05:08] <aubade> You need to set up a profile for it to rip to MP3s if I remember correctly, defaults are for FLAC and Vorbis.
[05:09] <Who_> crysalys: but you might need to add tools for encoding mp3s - are you familiar with the package manager for installing software?
[05:09] <LDZ420> dr_willis: well if I decide to dig further on this issue I will create a wiki on it
[05:09] <crysalys> Who: soundjuicer will create mp3's?
[05:09] <noiesmo> !mp3
[05:09] <elmo40> WinAmp not running
[05:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:09] <Who_> crysalys: yes - if you talk to it nicely first: ubotu might have just helped you - have a look at the restricted formats page :)
[05:10] <Branden1> Ok. I tried A LOT of steps, and still haven't got it to work. I when I press the | key, A comes out. What can I do to fix this? (Other keys that are wrong are: \ | ]  } [ { ; : ' "
[05:11] <Who_> anyone help with the totally hard lockups with sata disks?
[05:11] <Falstius> crysalys: soundjuicer will, but you need to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse (for lame) and add a profile for mp3.  The important bit is this line in the profile: audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc preset=1002
[05:11] <Scout> Can anyone tell me about xgl and compiz.
[05:11] <Who_> Scout: what do you want to know ?
[05:11] <Scout> Minimum requirements.
[05:12] <Who_> Scout: xgl is not used very much anymore. festy has 'aiglx' extension to the xserver. Min reqs are hard to define but you need a graphics card with good 3d support/drivers
[05:13] <Who_> Souct: it runs fine on my GF4 mx400 AMD XP 1900+ w 512mb ram -m if that helps
[05:13] <Who_> Scout: see above - typod your name
[05:14] <tupa> does anyone here actually knows how to set up xserver-xorg-video-unichrome
[05:14] <rohman> hi
[05:15] <tupa> somebody actually told me to change vesa for unichrome in xorg.conf but it didn't work at all
[05:16] <rohman> can any1 tell me why I can't boot into any os. I installed wubi and it worked fine for 2 days, then crash and my laptop keeps restarting after os selection screen
[05:16] <bullgard4> libcurl3 is a Multi-protocol file transfer library. What stands 'curl' for in its name?
[05:16] <Who_> Scout: anything else?
[05:18] <milllmannn> how do i test postfix?
[05:18] <milllmannn> i just installed it
[05:18] <thebigham> wats the best torrent program on ubuntu
[05:19] <Falstius> thebigham: utorrent
[05:19] <Who_> sata_promise module is loaded for me. I get HARD crashes - how can I troubleshoot them?
[05:19] <thebigham> utorrent is for linux too????
[05:19] <exul8891> Hey i just installed ubuntu for the first time, and when i tried to load it up - i get an X Server isnt working.  And im stuck in some commant prompt thing.  Any idea's or suggestions?
[05:20] <kernco> thebigham: It works under Wine, but there isn't a native linux version
[05:20] <Falstius> thebigham: I run it with wine
[05:20] <scottDkoDer> ubuntu comes with a default torrent client.
[05:20] <kernco> exul8891: did you look at the errors that X gave you?
[05:20] <dr_willis> command prompt thing = the shell.
[05:20] <leperkhanz> Nope, still missing this damned reiserfs drive.
[05:20] <dissection> thebigham: I'm using BitTornado, its alright, but doesn't let you create torrents.
[05:20] <Falstius> scottDkoDer: which is very slow
[05:20] <Branden1> Ok. I tried A LOT of steps, and still haven't got it to work. I when I press the | key, A comes out. What can I do to fix this? (Other keys that are wrong are: \ | ]  } [ { ; : ' "
[05:21] <GamingX> Hello guys, Can u do file transfer in Gaim as in mIRC?
[05:21] <bobtheawesum> omg how cum itunes and MSN messenger and AOL arent in ur big huge software reposutry thingy???? u should put them in ther every1 will think that lunix sux if u dont have them!!!!!!!!!111
[05:21] <thebigham> i like using utorrent on windows
[05:21] <thebigham> how do i get it work on ubuntu
[05:21] <dr_willis> thebigham,  use wine with it, or try ktorrent.
[05:21] <leperkhanz> lol@bob
[05:21] <leperkhanz> utorrent works under wine
[05:21] <exul8891> kernco: i dont think it recognizes my graphics card (brand new laptop)
[05:21] <osxdude|palmTX> thebigham: use wine (www.winehq.org)
Is wine running utorrent faster?
[05:21] <leperkhanz> that's what I use too, but beware the latest version.  utorrent is evil now.
[05:21] <bobtheawesum> Thank you, thank you! That was purely for your enjoyment. You all rock!
[05:21] <thebigham> i'm downloading ktorrent rite now
[05:21] <elpargo> leperkhanz: deluge is great.
[05:22] <rohman> can any1 tell me why I can't boot into any os. I installed wubi and it worked fine for 2 days, then crash and my laptop keeps restarting after os selection screen. Any clue as to why it is happening?
[05:22] <leperkhanz> elpargo: Not compared to utorrent.
[05:22] <Falstius> thebigham: sudo apt-get install wine && wine-config && wine utorrent.exe
I've had experiences where no other client could connect to the net except the one using utorrent.'
[05:22] <elpargo> leperkhanz: why not? they are only missing the webUI
[05:22] <Falstius> scottDkoDer: yes, I think it is mostly because there is a hole in the firewall for it though.
[05:22] <leperkhanz> What can I do about this mysteriously missing reiserfs partition?
[05:22] <elpargo> anyone knows if I can move the start of a partition?
[05:23] <thebigham> falstius:command not found =(
[05:23] <leperkhanz> elpargo: Not even close.
[05:23] <elpargo> leperkhanz... ok
[05:23] <r33ddl3r> leperkhanz, there's no such thing as mysteriously missing...
[05:23] <Falstius> thebigham: oops, that should be winecfg
[05:23] <r33ddl3r> ... check it w/fdisk
[05:23] <r33ddl3r> ... see if its there
[05:24] <elpargo> leperkhanz: as in not showing in gparted and/or cfdisk and/or fdisk?
[05:24] <bullgard4> elpargo: You could try the program gparted. But be careful and read its instructions for use.
[05:24] <leperkhanz> it shows, but I can't mount it.
  Frostwire work great with all local clients and compiz-fusion.
[05:24] <r33ddl3r> leperkhanz, how do you mount it?
[05:24] <dr_willis> leperkhanz,  and if you mount it manually what happens?
[05:24] <elpargo> bullgard4: i'm there but it only lets me make it smaller/bigger not move it to the front or back.
[05:24] <Falstius> scottDkoDer: yeah, wine utorrent and beryl don't get along well.  I would really like a native replacement.
[05:24] <thebigham> Falstius: can you please give me the whole command again
[05:25] <scottDkoDer> You can install it with Automatix, a very nice app to help insall / uninstall other apps
[05:25] <leperkhanz> how do I mount it manually?
[05:25] <dr_willis> automatix = PUKE
[05:25] <dr_willis> :)
[05:25] <dissection> Guys, my sound just got screwed. All I can hear is noise, and it isn't stopping. What do I do?
[05:25] <biotrox> can't mount dvd-rom
[05:25] <elpargo> it may be
[05:25] <dr_willis> leperkhanz,  sudo mount -t reiser /dev/whatever /media/whever   (or similer)
[05:25] <r33ddl3r> mount /dev/sdb2 /somedir
[05:25] <biotrox> halp
[05:25] <bullgard4> elpargo: What do you mean with 'move it to the front'?
[05:25] <biotrox> help
[05:25] <Falstius>  sudo apt-get install wine && winecfg && wine Desktop/utorrent.exe
[05:25] <elpargo> "nice" but it's messy
[05:25] <Falstius> thebigham: assuming you downloaded utorrent to the desktop.
[05:25] <biotrox> it said "no medium found"
[05:25] <meatwad64> has anyone had audio problems here with a ad1986a...i keep losing the audio but was working fine and can confirm the speakers work in windows
[05:25] <dr_willis> I dont even see automatix being needed much these days
[05:26] <Branden1> Ok. I tried A LOT of steps, and still haven't got it to work. I when I press the | key, A comes out. What can I do to fix this? (Other keys that are wrong are: \ | ]  } [ { ; : ' "
[05:26] <r33ddl3r> u sure its /dev/sdb2 ?
[05:26] <elpargo> bullgard4: diskwise I got a small partition at front I want to "merge" with the other.
[05:26] <r33ddl3r> do "fdisk -l"
[05:26] <Falstius> my backup finished, time to break my system.  later.
[05:26] <dr_willis> elpargo,  merging 2 data partitions to a larger one = not a good idea, or doable (i think)
[05:27] <elpargo> dr_willis: don't worry I got backups of everything.
[05:27] <dr_willis> elpargo,  you might be able to copy the data from #1 to #2, then delete #1, then resize #2
[05:27] <panfist> I just installed xubuntu feisty on my laptop and everything's working fine, except it never returns from a suspend state. anyone have any ideas...?
[05:27] <dr_willis> elpargo,  dosent help if its not doable at all. :) so...
[05:27] <thebigham> Falstius: yeah utorrent.exe is on the desktop
[05:27] <helloman> Hi, I'm about to install ubuntu on my sister's computer (god bless ubuntu), and I just want to make sure her wireless card is supported. "Intel Pro/Wireless 2915ABG" Can someone confirm this?
[05:27] <elpargo> dr_willis, yup a good rsync is what I was thinking.
[05:27] <leperkhanz> mount point does not exist
[05:27] <elpargo> helloman, best support around :)
[05:27] <dr_willis> leperkhanz,  then make it...
[05:28] <r33ddl3r> mkdir /tmp/tmp
[05:28] <dr_willis> 'the directory you are mounting a partition TO - MUST MUST MUST exist beforhand" :) repeate everyone!
[05:28] <lobster> Does anyone know how to apply the same effect to a mass amount of files in Gimp?
[05:28] <leperkhanz> you mean sudo mkdir /tmp/tmp
[05:28] <helloman> elpargo, I'm a long time Ubuntu user, I <3 the #ubuntu irc. :)
[05:28] <dr_willis> lobster,  the gimp has a scripting language that can proberly do it.
[05:29] <leperkhanz> unkown filesystem type reiser
[05:29] <r33ddl3r> leperkhanz, whatever... just that /tmp is writable by anyone
[05:29] <r33ddl3r> drop -t reiserfs
[05:29] <r33ddl3r> ... let it autodetect
[05:29] <exul8891> Hey i just installed ubuntu and i get a message X server failed, then i go to commant prompt.  I tried to use 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx' and now its telling me to insert 'ubuntu 7.04 _feisty fawn_ - release i386 (20070415)' so i inserted my ubuntu live cd, and nothing is happening.  Any idea's?
[05:29] <bullgard4> elpargo: As far as I know gparted allows you also to merge two partitions. So you should be able to move in effect a partition to the beginning of a disk. But I repeat: "Be utmost careful when using the program."
   Would you recommend installing amd64, or stick with x86?
[05:32] <Amaranth> !staff
[05:32] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[05:33] <barosl> sshock, use x86
[05:33] <dr_willis> sshock,  you got a need for 64? if not use x86
[05:33] <numist> Amaranth: nalioth knows about it
[05:33] <panfist> I just installed xubuntu feisty on my laptop and everything's working fine, except it never returns from a suspend state. anyone have any ideas...?
[05:33] <Nutubuntu> sshock,  unless you have a specific and compelling reason to go 64 bit, stay with 32 bit
[05:33] <sshock> cool, thanks guys
[05:35] <chowmeined> well
[05:35] <biotrox> /joiin #kubuntu
[05:35] <chowmeined> until i have my next machine with 8GB of ram, im not going 64bit
[05:35] <Sensae> That's a compelling reason XP
[05:36] <Who_> cables: You still there?
[05:36] <Who_> cables; I just noticed this in my syslog: LOADS of repeats of the follwing line:
[05:36] <chowmeined> ram needs to be a lot cheaper
[05:36] <Who_> Jul 18 04:31:16 localhost kernel: [12743.219588]  usb 2-5: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
[05:36] <helloman> Is the Intel PRO Wireless card natively supported by Ubuntu? (Out of the box?) I'm using an IBM machine, and hoping to switch over.
[05:37] <chowmeined> id like to have 32GB of ram
[05:37] <sarixe> ...
[05:37] <biotrox> anyone won't help me..?
[05:37] <helloman> why, chowmeined?
[05:37] <moyer> just because i can see my screen right now doesnt mean i have the
[05:37] <moyer>           correct video drivers installed does it? I have intel 82865G and
[05:37] <moyer>           have read on wiki that its choppy and well, its not choppy now, but
[05:37] <moyer>           if i run beryl or compiz it gets very choppy... i guess what im
[05:37] <moyer>           asking is how do i find out if i have the right driver installed..
[05:37] <moyer>           or find out what driver is installed
[05:37] <elpargo> will ubuntu bark if I move /boot from hda1 to hda3?
[05:37] <moyer> shit sorry.
[05:37] <Dezine> I have a drive that I can't access.. I tried changing permissions but it says: chmod: changing permissions of `disk': Read-only file system and I still can't open it, opening the folder says "the folders contents could not be displayed".
[05:37] <moyer> i meant that to be on one line
[05:37] <dr_willis> elpargo,  not a good idea
[05:37] <dissection> helloman: I've not used it with Ubuntu but when I installed other distros, it worked out of the box. I didn't need to do anything.
[05:37] <chowmeined> helloman: so i can have all my stuff in ram
[05:37] <Who_> Can anyone suggest why my USB hard disk keeps resetting itself? or getting reset?
[05:37] <elpargo> Dezine, is that a removable media?
[05:37] <dr_willis> elpargo,  you will have to tweak the menu.lst and  reinstall grub .
[05:38] <metalac> hey guys i have some serious networking problem
[05:38] <dr_willis> elpargo,  well perhaps tweak the menu.lst :)
[05:38] <Dezine> no it's another hard drive in the system it's self
[05:38] <metalac> fresh install and i can't connect wireless or WIRED
[05:38] <pike_> elpargo: go crazy. move it to a flash drive
[05:38] <bullgard4> panfist: This is a complicated issue. Post at least the relevant error messages of dmesg. Even this is often not enough information for a knowleable person to help you.
[05:38] <elpargo> dr_willis, I'm out of good ones. I really don't want to reformat everything because of winblows.
[05:38] <metalac> tried 2 different cards, dhcp and static and nothing works
[05:38] <exul8891> anyone know what command do i use to edit, i did 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst/' and i get 'cannot open display'.
[05:38] <elpargo> dr_willis, I did that on gentoo worked great, moved my install from a 5gb to a 10gb disk.
[05:38] <metalac> i'm no newbie, but i am new to ubuntu
[05:38] <chowmeined> helloman: i believe it is compatible
[05:38] <helloman> Is the Intel PRO Wireless card natively supported by Ubuntu? (Out of the box?) I'm using an IBM machine, and hoping to switch over.
[05:38] <helloman> oh, sorry.
[05:38] <dr_willis> elpargo,  with the use of uuid in the files it may not  mind. but you may have to rerun update grub and fix where its to find the boot/kernel files.
[05:38] <elpargo> pike_: sure ship me a 34Gb drive and I will.
[05:38] <chowmeined> helloman: its not really a compatible with ubuntu thing
[05:39] <Dezine> the folder is inside media instead of mnt for some reason
[05:39] <chowmeined> helloman: its built into the standard kernel
[05:39] <dissection> exul8891: I think you have an extra "/" at the end
[05:39] <dr_willis> elpargo,  if you know grub.. go for it! :)
[05:39] <helloman> the wierless card, chowmeined?
[05:39] <chowmeined> the driver, i believe so
[05:39] <elpargo> dr_willis, yea grub is my baby :p
[05:39] <exul8891> dissection: i tried w/o the extra '/' too its the same thing
[05:39] <dr_willis> elpargo,  so you can change its poopy diaper then whenit has a fit after ya move it. :)
[05:40] <astro76> exul8891, try gksudo instead of sudo (should always do this for gui apps)
[05:40] <helloman> Can anyone confirm that?
[05:40] <pike_> helloman: best bet is to search ubuntuforums.org. a google search like site:ubuntuforums.org cardmodel  will yield best results typically
[05:40] <pike_> helloman: or use livecd to test
[05:40] <elpargo> in case someone is wondering this is what I'll do. I'm going to move /boot from primary 3 to primary 1 (which was swap), then merge sda3,4 and 5, and then split it in two.
[05:40] <exul8891> astro76: now i get a new warning '(gksudo:5660): Gtk-Warning ** : cannot open disklay:'
[05:40] <XiXaQ> heh
[05:41] <exul8891> display*
[05:41] <moyer> how do i see what video card linux is using?
[05:41] <Dezine> If I unmount it it shows it as "74 GB Volume" so I try to open and it mounts and gives the error
[05:41] <elpargo> exul8891, are u running that on a terminal?
[05:41] <pike_> exul8891: are you at cli? command line? :)
[05:41] <exul8891> i jsut tried to install ubuntu, and my x server failed so im at some commant prompt
[05:41] <astro76> exul8891, sudo nano
[05:42] <Dezine> Do I need to set mount settings?
[05:42] <pike_> moyer: lspci -v or sudo lshw  you can lspci -v | grep -i vga  if youre lazy
[05:42] <Dezine> or mount point?
[05:42] <chowmeined> helloman: why dont you just try out the livecd?
[05:42] <helloman> Is the Intel PRO Wireless card natively supported by Ubuntu? (Out of the box?) I'm using an IBM machine, and hoping to switch over. I've asked, but I haven't gotten a concrete answer.
[05:42] <moyer> pike_ : thanks a hellof a lot i appreciate it
[05:42] <exul8891> astro76: thanks aton, im brandnew to ubuntu
[05:42] <chowmeined> helloman: you dont have to install anything, you can just test it to see if it works
[05:47] (exul8891/#ubuntu) Hey if it asks me to enter to the 'ubuntu 7.04 _Feisty fawn_ - release i386 (20070415)' is that just the ubuntu live cd?
[05:47] <GamingX> Hello Guys Is there any package that can open .rar archives
[05:47] <g0dd3ss> hai everyone can someone tell me if there is an easy way to get boot screen / login screen for feisty other than default poo brown
[05:48] <metalac> anyone?
 The cd you used to install ubuntu with, or the livecd of the session you are running
[05:48] <metalac> my network connection just won't work no matter what card i use, wireless or wired
[05:48] <metalac> wired doesn't work static or dhcp
[05:49] <chowmeined> g0dd3ss: yes
[05:49] <exul8891> scottdkoder: okay because i tried that and its not working
[05:49] <dr_willis> g0dd3ss,  install some of the other gdm login themes
[05:49] <astro76> GamingX, unrar-free, unrar, or p7zip-full
[05:49] <osxdude|palmTX> metalac: is it compatible
 What OS hardware are you using?
[05:49] <metalac> scottDkoDer: i'm using the card I used in another linux box that works just fine.
 May be a corrupt disk, ie scratches ect
[05:49] <metalac> it's one of the el cheapo Netgear ones that have kernel driver
[05:50] <scottDkoDer> metalac> with the same distro?
[05:50] <metalac> scottDkoDer: no with Gentoo
[05:50] <g0dd3ss> dr_willis,  thanks i will look 8-]
[05:50] <scottDkoDer> metalac> what distro was the other one?
[05:50] <metalac> scottDkoDer: gentoo
[05:51] <Dinde> No one can help me to deal with this freezy install of feisty over a thinkpad x60 laptop ?
[05:51] <scottDkoDer> metalac> You said it ran on another system.  Were you running the same OS as the one you are having trouble with now??
[05:52] <metalac> scottDkoDer: no i was running gentoo
 What?
[05:52] <Branden1> Thanks for the help everyone. :|
[05:52] <Dinde> scoot
 You are going to have to be much more specific for me to help you.
[05:52] <metalac> scottDkoDer: what do you mean? what do you need?
[05:52] <elpargo> dr_willis, what should I do with the UUID?
[05:53] <dr_willis> elpargo,  change it to the proper one. :) or use the /dev/hd## entry instead.
[05:53] <Dinde> scottDkoDer: I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7.04 to my laptop with an usb cd drive. It's booting then i choose install and the computer freeze @ loading initrd.gz
[05:53] <elpargo> dr_willis, how can i get the UUID?
[05:53] <scottDkoDer> metalac> Describe your problem in detail, including OS and hardware or any other applicable info.
[05:53] <dr_willis> elpargo,  use ls -l /dev/disks/by-uuid to get them :)
[05:53] <Dinde> I tried with live and alternate x86
[05:53] <dr_willis> i was allready typing that when you asked.. heh
[05:53] <dr_willis> !uuid
[05:53] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:53] <elpargo> dr_willis :) tx
 Did you check the cd for defects?
[05:54] <metalac> scottDkoDer: got the 7.04 Ubuntu loaded it recognizes the card just fine, but it won't connect to my house network.  static config doesn't work, dhcp doesn't work
[05:54] <Dinde> Same problem but it freezes @ Loading Kernel btw the CD is working nice on another computer
 So you can 'see' your card but cant connect?
[05:54] <metalac> scottDkoDer: correct
 Do you know for a fact that the hardware you are using works? ie under a different OS/distro?
[05:55] <Dinde> I also tried floppy=thinkpad noapic etc ...
[05:56] <metalac> scottDkoDer: yes I pulled it out of the box running gentoo
 Ok. So you are trying to use a known working card, but are both computers running GENTOO?
[05:57] <Dezine> back again fighting my drive issue.. so.. I got it to mount and there's nothing there? It now says "unreadable".
[05:57] <Dinde> I give up
[05:57] <Dinde> Good night
[05:57] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> hhaha most do
[05:57] <metalac> scottDkoDer: no the one where it doesn't work is Ubuntu, thus i'm in this channel
[05:57] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> just.... one step at a time.. everything can be worked out
 Ok. Now we are getting somewhere.
[05:58] <Dezine> arg
 So your System->Prefernces->Network shows how many network interfaces
[06:00] <metalac> scottDkoDer: 4 there are 2 onboard Nics, one onboard wifi and one pci one i put in to test
 I'm sorry. can you be more informative?
 What's a nic?
[06:01] <metalac> scottDkoDer: Nic = Network interface card
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> LOL
[06:01] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> now thats funny
[06:01] <metalac> scottDkoDer: I have 2 wired ones onboard, one wired one in PCI slot and one onboard wifi
[06:01] <Tama00> can i host wireless networks on wmaster0?
 Ok. There may be a hardware conflict.
[06:02] <metalac> scottDkoDer: then it wouldn't show up as working
 And you are using a desktop I'm assuming?
[06:02] <metalac> scottDkoDer: correct
 "then it wouldn't show up as working" That's where you are wrong.
[06:03] <metalac> scottDkoDer: well let me disable them
[06:03] <holycow> i have one of those usb sticks with a protected partition.  on the other ubuntu box both partitions are detected and mounted, on this box only the protected one is detected and mounted
[06:03] <Nutubuntu> dr_willis, I seem to remember you've been using VMware - is it possible to boot a newly-created virtual machine from a usb device rather than a cdrom?
[06:03] <g0dd3ss> hi again so i got some new login theme thingys for feisty is there some way i can change the acutal boot screen? or maybe disable it so I only see the writing scrolly stuff?
 You said its not working. Just because the computer can pull info from your hardware doesnt mean its functioning correctly.
[06:03] <holycow> anyone else run into this?
[06:04] <osxdude|palmTX> holycow: 2 partitions? on a usb stick?
[06:04] <metalac> scottDkoDer: but it usually means there is no conflicts
[06:04] <holycow> 2 partitions on a usb stick.  they come like that from the factory.  they are for windows retards as it contains encryption nonsense
[06:04] <scottDkoDer> Disabling the interfaces through software wont do it.
[06:05] <GamingX> I downloaded unrar 2.71. I dont know how to install
[06:05] <astro76> holycow, any reason you don't want to reformat it?
 Usually.
[06:05] <holycow> astro76, it cannot be reformatted
[06:05] <astro76> ich
[06:05] <metalac> scottDkoDer: ok i dissabled the 2 onboard ones and no go
[06:05] <elpargo> dr_willis, I forgot how to tell grub which file it needs to reinstall.
[06:05] <dr_willis> Nutubuntu,  never tried that.. setting up vmware to use actual hardware devices/disks is somthing ive never done.
[06:05] <holycow> yup
 Is there anyway for you to test each peice of hardware by itself?
[06:05] <elpargo> dr_willis, wsa it with a chroot?
[06:05] <dr_willis> elpargo,  i always run 'update-grub'
[06:05] <osxdude|palmTX> holycow: just delete the 2nd partition, and resize the 1st
[06:05] <Nutubuntu> t/y dr_willis ... it's exPERimentin time, I guess
[06:05] <holycow> you can't delete the partition
[06:05] <metalac> scottDkoDer: well the PCI card I have works 100%
[06:06] <elpargo> dr_willis, umm but I'm runnin this of the livecd
[06:06] <holycow> its burned into the chipset
[06:06] <dr_willis> elpargo,  from a live cd, chroot over, then perhaps run update-grub, may need to set up the right /proc and /dev also
[06:06] <holycow> err flash chip i mean
 I would recomend trying a live cd and removing some of the cards, if not all but one.
[06:06] <scottDkoDer> Having 4 interfaces trying to do the same thing is just asking for trouble.
[06:07] <osxdude|palmTX> holycow: Try. Any kind of a disk (except CDs)can have partitions.
[06:07] <holycow> uh
[06:07] <GamingX> Guys How do I install unrar?
[06:07] <holycow> c'mon work with me here
[06:07] <holycow> i'm not anoob :) thank you for that advice i appreciate it but i assure you it cannot be removed
[06:07] <holycow> its burned into the flash chip, not 'recorded' on it
[06:07] <astro76> GamingX, use synaptic package manager or sudo apt-get install unrar
[06:07] <holycow> you physically cannot reflash it
[06:08] <osxdude|palmTX> open it up, holycow :P
[06:08] <osxdude|palmTX> no...dont
[06:08] <elpargo> umm I'll have to do a lot of stuff better just load grub manually then fix it on the live system
[06:08] <astro76> holycow, what kind is it out of curiosity? (partly so I don't get one ;))
[06:08] <dr_willis> !rar
[06:08] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:08] <g0dd3ss> hi again so i got some new login theme thingys for feisty is there some way i can change the acutal boot screen? or maybe disable it so I only see the writing scrolly stuff?
[06:09] <holycow> astro76, i took it away from our staff because of that ... its a ...
[06:09] <dissection> Is there a program in Linux similar to Adobe Imageready that'll let me slice images and save into HTML?
[06:09] <holycow> huh its rubbed off, astro76 pretty much anything from scandisk i stay away from
[06:09] <dr_willis> g0dd3ss,  you mean the 'splash' screen. i alwasy disable that by dedinging the menu.lst file and using the 'nosplash, nofb' options
[06:09] <bullgard4> What stands 'apt' for in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[06:10] <dr_willis> g0dd3ss,  in /boot/grub/menu.lst -------->   # defoptions=nosplash nofb
[06:10] <osxdude|palmTX> holycow, buy  the same flash stick and compare
[06:10] <dr_willis> g0dd3ss,  then rerun 'sudo update-grub'
[06:10] <holycow> osxdude|laptop, i have 3 i took off of them
[06:10] <g0dd3ss> dr thanks alot!! 8-]
[06:10] <dissection> dr_willis: http://wobzip.filetap.com/ <--- I use this, to unrar small files (online)
[06:10] <dr_willis> dissection,  i tend to use 'unp' :) im lazy
[06:10] <dr_willis> !info unp
[06:10] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (feisty), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[06:10] <holycow> trust me i've tried, its a great idea but its a protected partition to prevent windows bozos from screwing up their encrypted files
[06:11] <astro76> bullgard4, Advanced Package Tool (as in apt-get)
[06:11] <dissection> dr_willis: Ah, I see ;]
[06:11] <bullgard4> dissection: Ah, thank you for explaining.
[06:11] <dr_willis> dissection,  hmm not sure that unp can handle rar's heh..never tried it..
[06:11] <osxdude|palmTX> holycow: holy cow! well then the version of the box that on;y shows one partition mustt be old...
[06:11] <osxdude|palmTX> *only/must
[06:11] <holycow> osxdude|laptop, feisty
[06:12] <holycow> its very odd, thats why i thought to ask
[06:12] <holycow> i guess i'm the only one thats run into this
[06:12] <holycow> i'll poke around some more
[06:12] <bullgard4> astro76: Ah, thank you for explaining.
[06:12] <Who_> Wow - I have a hard disk filling up dmesg with Jul 18 04:56:00 localhost kernel: [14225.389531]  usb 2-5: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3
[06:12] <dissection> dr_willis: I tried it from the GUI and it couldn't unrar. I didn't try installing anything after I found the online tool to unrar since I needed it for really small files anyway.
[06:12] <Who_> every minute
[06:12] <Who_> any thoughts!?
[06:12] <osxdude|palmTX> holycow they are both fiesty?
[06:12] <dissection> bullgard4: You're welcome
[06:12] <K`zan>  rsync -rpv --progress nimitz:/home/vw/public_html .  <<--- That should backup *everything* from the target directory, right?
[06:12] <holycow> no the desktops that work are dapper, i run nothing but ltsp for production desktops
[06:13] <osxdude|palmTX> itsp?
[06:13] <holycow> you mean ltsp? no
[06:13] <astro76> holycow, I'm reaching here, but I wonder if you ran dosfsck on the partition that isn't showing up
 Bad usb port /device
[06:14] <Who_> scottDkoDer: damn - it is a new external hard disk caddy
[06:14] <dr_willis> dissection,  i never use the gui to unarvhive stuff.
[06:14] <Who_> but tbh - I suspect the disk inside
[06:14] <holycow> astro76, i've never heard of that command so ... :) actually its funny you mention that, this is reminiscent of how ext3 behaves when it doesn't have a gracefull shutdown
[06:14] <Who_> scottDkoDer: it's incredible it can actually copy stuff with that resetting every minute
[06:14] <astro76> holycow, I had a firewire drive with fat32 partition not automount in feisty until I fixed some minor errors
[06:15] <holycow> ah really?
[06:15] <holycow> ohhh thats interesting
 It may send messages out. Or it may be a driver issue.
[06:15] <astro76> holycow, though I was still able to mount it manually
[06:15] <Who_> scottDkoDer: buckups must happen somehow!
[06:15] <holycow> you know i wonder if its running an fsck in the background before mounting?
[06:15] <Who_> scottDkoDer: drivers for usb mass storage surely pretty standard and working by now?
[06:15] <astro76> holycow, not that I'm aware of
 What distro
[06:16] <osxdude|palmTX> i'm sleepy. good night.
[06:16] <Who_> scottDkoDer: feisty. I think the killer clue is that this disk used to bring the whole system to complete freeze when used via onboard SATA, with usb it just resets every minute
 Why are you worried about dmesg? It works doesnt it?
[06:17] <scottie7> are there any known problems with slow external network access on Ubuntu 7.04?
 Why did you switch from sata to usb??
[06:17] <Who_> scottDkoDer: it works VERY slowly. 4 hours to copy 8 gig is too long! it's a USB2 plus SATA disk
[06:17] <holycow> Who_, i've seen similarly strange behaviour, i'm putting my money on the hd is nearly dead
[06:17] <Who_> scottDkoDer: cos I got hard freezes trying to get data off the disk using sata.
[06:18] <Who_> scottDkoDer: I put money on that too but Maxtor/Seagate MacBlast said it was all fine!?
 Yea I would recover everything off of that disk and not use it anymore
[06:18] <Who_> scottDkoDer: that's what I'm doing - I just hoped I'd be able to do it faster than I am at the mo :)
[06:19] <bullgard4> Are there alternatives to the gwget program to be preferrred?
 It sounds like its limping.
[06:19] <Who_> scottDkoDer: but a usb reset is MUCH better than a kernel freeze - really, it means I can get stuff off!
[06:19] <towlieban> hi i need help with something ive got ubuntu installed on my laptop and every so often in gnome, it seems like the keyboard and mouse dont work and after a little while like 30 seconds it starts to work again. my right click doesnt work at all. how can i troubleshoot this type of problem ?
 Of course they would say that about their own product.!
[06:20] <astro76> towlieban, wouldn't happen to be an HP laptop with a dead battery?
[06:20] <towlieban> no
[06:20] <Who_> scottDkoDer: I guess so - but it is designed to help them triage supprt requests - for real business with big orders - I doubt theyd fake it
[06:20] <astro76> lol ok
[06:20] <towlieban> its a macbook pro
 When and how did you install ubuntu? feisty?
[06:20] <towlieban> i installed feisty
[06:20] <towlieban> from the livecd
 I wouldnt.
[06:20] <Who_> probably the problem is higher level than their scan checks - so disk is fin but perhaps partition or something is busted - seem feasible?
 When did you download th cd?
[06:21] <scottDkoDer> the
[06:21] <towlieban> a week ago
[06:21] <bullgard4> towlieban: Report the relevant dmesg message.
[06:21] <Who_> scottDkoDer: I'm 1 yr into a 5 yr warranty - so I'll be sure they give me what I have paid for!
[06:21] <towlieban> ok 1 sec
 Well most definitely.
[06:22] <Who_> scottDkoDer: I almost feel sorry for it, watching my syslog keep turning up the messages!
 Hopefully it is a faulty drive, cause I wouldnt know what the problem was else wise
[06:23] <Who_> scottDkoDer: yea - I hope so too - cos otherwise the linux Sata promise driver is bad too!
[06:23] <g0dd3ss> ok so I have disabled the "splash" screen when I boot up with feisty is there some way to disble the splashy screen when I go to shutdown ?
 Is there a way to test it on another computer?
[06:23] <Who_> scottDkoDer: not another one with a SATA connection
[06:23] <alecwh> How do I restart Apache using the Terminal?
[06:23] <GamingX> Is there an ebook reader .lit for ubuntu?
[06:23] <Who_> I can check the usb on a mac or many other Ubuntu machines - but not till this data copy has finished
 Usb?
[06:24] <Who_> and GOD KNOWS how long that will take
[06:24] <Who_> yea, usb whereever
[06:24] <dr_willis> g0dd3ss,  cant say taht i even notice a shutdown slpash screen...  i dont recall disablng it, but i sure dont have one
 Oh. lol
[06:24] <dr_willis> !splash
[06:24] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[06:24] <dr_willis> !bootsplash
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:24] <g0dd3ss> dr_willis well not really a splash screen but the thing with the progress bar
[06:24] <Who_> scottDkoDer: thanks for the help :)
 Tranfering using samba?
[06:25] <alecwh> !apache
[06:25] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:25] <g0dd3ss> thanks i go read 8-]
[06:25] <dr_willis> g0dd3ss,  since i dont see such a thing.. :) no idea what you mean. heh
[06:25] <Who_> scottDkoDer:...? go on? how would that work?
[06:25] <dr_willis> that sounds like the bootsplash to me.
[06:25] <g0dd3ss> dr_willis, ok thanks 8-]
[06:25] <GamingX> Guys an ebook reader for .lit files
 What are you transfering your data to? or where?
[06:25] <dr_willis> kernel boots.. bootsplash -> gdm login -->ya have fun
[06:26] <Who_> g0dd3ss: you're talking about usplash - that's what is responsible for the shutdown screen
[06:26] <Who_> scottDkoDer: oh - just to another hard disk of my Dad's temporarily
[06:26] <erov> any ideas on a good, robust featured.. but SLIM (ie. older machine) bittorrent client? Azureus, bittornado.. no
[06:26] <dibblego> is there any software to convert VOB files to a DVD iso image?
 Yea, better just let it finish.
[06:27] <Who_> (scottDkoDer: also on USB but NOT constantly resetting itself/getting reset
 Hmm...
[06:27] <Who_> If I'd known it would take this long I'd have done ESSENTIALS not media
 Ha ha
[06:27] <Who_> I think I have a recent backup of most of it anyway - but I don't want to risk the photos and documents
[06:28] <astro76> heh I have my photos backed up in 4 places
 Yup.  So if one drive's working and the other well, its probably that drive
[06:28] <Who_> astro76: I iwsh I was that organised - tonight I struggle because it was the 'master backup drive' that is limping and struggling
[06:29] <Who_> ohh..up tow resetting USB every 30 seconds now :S
[06:29] <Branden> Can someone please tell me how to open ports on Ubuntu Server?
[06:30] <AzMoo[w] > Hey, is there some kind of hardware compatibility database? eg, I want to know how well ubuntu supports motherboards on the nforce5 chipset.
[06:30] <dr_willis> !hardware
[06:30] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
 Burning like the brightest flame.
[06:31] <GamingX> Guys an ebook reader which can read .lit file?
[06:31] <Branden> Can someone please tell me how to open ports on Ubuntu Server?
[06:31] <dr_willis> !firewall
[06:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:32] <Who_> scottDkoDer: yea - I'm tryinhg a desk fan to cool it now - see if that makes the reset less common - that would be mighty interesting (yes, I'm out of _real_ ideas :)
[06:32] <dr_willis> Branden,  depending on what you are doing.. iptables is the command that handles all that stuff
[06:32] <Branden> dr_willis I just want to open ports.
[06:32] <rhoruns> hmm.. why aren't my windows brought to the front when an application opens, or an existing application opens a new window/dialog?
[06:32] <peeps_work> so I installed java 5 sdk, but I can't figure out what the dir is for it
[06:33] <dr_willis> Branden,  thats rather 'vague'  - as far as i know no ports are closed by default.
[06:33] <dissection> Is there a program in Linux similar to Adobe Imageready that'll let me slice images and save into HTML? Sorry I don't know if someone had responded to this question already. I don't have scrolling enabled.
[06:33] <Branden> dr_willis I saw that all ports were closed by default
[06:33] <AzMoo[w] > hrm, wiki.ubuntu.com isn't responding to my request :(
 Is the "time left" going up or down?
[06:33] <rhoruns> dissection, GIMP may be your answer. but im not sure :)
[06:33] <dr_willis> Branden,  not exactly.. No 'services' run accepting stuff.. thus none are 'open' in that theres nothing running on them.. they are not blocked.
[06:34] <asc> Branden: That's correct. Generally, the way to open a port is to use a program that listens for connections on that port.
[06:34] <nomin> dissection: did you try gimp?
[06:34] <dr_willis> Branden,  you may want to clarify exactly what ports/services you are refering to...
[06:34] <peeps_work> where did my JDK go?
[06:34] <asc> blocked, closed... whatever. Non-open by default.
[06:34] <GamingX> How do we install firestarter?
[06:34] <Madpilot> dissection, I think the gimp can do something similar - not sure, though.
[06:34] <dissection> nomin: Yes, I use that already but I didn't see any option for slicing images
[06:34] <Branden> I want to use Putty (SSH) to access my computer
[06:34] <Madpilot> GamingX, via Add/Remove or Synaptic
[06:34] <dr_willis> 'not open for business' vs ' road blocked' :)
[06:34] <dissection> Are there any other alternatives? Perhaps even a commericial software?
[06:34] <dr_willis> Branden,  then install the ssh service.
[06:35] <dissection> *commercial
[06:35] <Branden> Ok. Thank you.
[06:35] <dr_willis> Branden,  simple eh? :)
[06:35] <astro76> Branden, install openssh-server
[06:35] <Branden> Yes.
[06:35] <Branden> Thank you.
[06:35] <dr_willis> Its amazing how good an answer ya get when ya ask the right question.
[06:35] <xoRock> need help, is there a ink counter reset-er for epson printer, something like this in windows http://www.ssclg.com/epsone.shtml
[06:35] <kyja> Branden, you can also use the terminal to ssh
[06:35] <Madpilot> dissection, the gimp has pretty good documentation - have you had a look thru it?
[06:35] <Who_> scottDkoDer: it's FINISHED!
[06:36] <peeps_work> i need to know the directory that a package was installed to
[06:36] <Branden> How?
[06:36] <Fedman> Can anyone help me set the mac address for my lan card
[06:36] <astro76> !mtink | xoRock
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <Fedman> I tried the guide from here: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-your-network-card-mac-address-on-ubuntu/
 Great.
[06:36] <DarthShrine> dissection, There's the "Py-Slice" filter in The GIMP which may do what you're looking for..
[06:36] <astro76> !info mtink | xoRock
[06:36] <ubotu> xorock: mtink: Status monitor and configuration tool for Epson inkjet printers. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.14-2 (feisty), package size 154 kB, installed size 608 kB
[06:36] <Newbie_Dude> I just downloaded OpenArena 0.7 but not really sure how to install it. It's a ".deb" file, how to I open and install a ".deb"?
[06:36] <dissection> DarthShrine: Okay :)
[06:36] <Fedman> but it doesn't work
[06:36] <kyja> Branden, you do ssh <user>@address
[06:36] <Madpilot> Newbie_Dude, try just double-clicking on it.
[06:36] <Who_> scottDkoDer: bedtime now, really!
[06:36] <xoRock> astro76, nice dude, thx!
[06:36] <Who_> scottDkoDer: thanks
[06:36] <astro76> Newbie_Dude, it's available in ubuntu's repos
[06:36] <rhoruns> can someone help me get my windows to quit playing hide and seek? :) when ever i open a new application, or when ever window is opened, it doesn't bring itself to the front
[06:37] <Branden> I want to access the computer, not the computer acess another computer
 Use dpkg -i pkg.deb
 Later
[06:37] <astro76> xoRock, FYI, I found it with apt-cache search epson
[06:37] <kyja> Branden, it will then connect and propt for password. also you can ftp with terminal... do ftp and then get help to find out the commands to connect and work it
[06:37] <Bogaurd> everytime i try to modify paritions on a drive, using gparted, ubuntu decides to automatically mount the partitions midway through, and the operation fails. how can i disable this automounting?
[06:37] <astro76> !info openarena | Newbie_Dude
[06:37] <ubotu> newbie_dude: openarena: A fast-paced 3D Ego-Shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-2 (feisty), package size 747 kB, installed size 1652 kB
[06:38] <xoRock> astro76, okay ^^
[06:38] <Newbie_Dude> astro76: That's the older version I downloaded 0.7 :) more player models and maps
[06:38] <kyja> Branden, true, putty will do the same if your not on another machine with bash
[06:38] <Newbie_Dude> astro76, Madpilot, scottDkoDer: Thanks, I got it to work :) I thought I had to type "chmod" or somethin like that :P
[06:38] <astro76> Newbie_Dude, ok you can double-click it, or dpkg -i
[06:38] <Madpilot> Newbie_Dude, not for debs
[06:38] <kyja> bedtime, but I hate to leave beryl it is so purty :)
[06:38] <kyja> night
[06:39] <Branden> Ok. So what do I need to get on the Ubuntu Server machine so I can acess it with my Putty on a remote machine?
[06:39] <Newbie_Dude> Madpilot: i think i like debs, so easy to install :O
[06:39] <astro76> Branden, openssh-server
[06:39] <nomin> dissection: http://websiterepairguy.com/ebooks/gimp/How_Slice_Image.html
[06:40] <kyja> Branden, search "ssh" in the synaptic pachage manager look for openshh
[06:40] <kyja> yes or sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[06:40] <kyja> nigfht
[06:40] <Branden> I did that.
[06:40] <nomin> dissection: I use google alot to find out how to do things on linux.  Also search ubuntuforums.org with google to find lots of good stuff.
[06:40] <Branden> And, it still don't let me connect to the machine
[06:41] <kyja> Branden, the server may not have started. you might have to restart, or perhaps there are firewall issues
[06:41] <Madpilot> Branden, you might need to tweak your router settings
[06:41] <ThanatosDrive> Is anyone else having issues sending files over gaim?
[06:42] <Branden> Ugh! My router...  I  can not get alsamixer to work to save my life on 7.04 w/ an acer 5100.  is there other programs I could use to handle sound.. outside of alsa, for say mplayer, and etc?
[06:44] <Branden> OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
[06:44] <Branden> I got it
[06:45] <astro76> Branden, cool, you can also do sftp or scp now (for windows filezilla or winscp)
[06:47] <ThanatosDrive> Speed seems choppy on Ubuntu. Probably my lack of RAM and a better GPU, probably?
[06:47] <astro76> ThanatosDrive, more details? what's choppy?
[06:48] <Madpilot> ThanatosDrive, how much RAM is a 'lack of RAM'?
[06:48] <ThanatosDrive> astro76: Wow it seems you're always around to help! Anyway, it just seems slow. Programs take some time to open, flash applications don't run well on FF, gaim seems...funky. In fact the only program I find that rivals the speed of opening/running the same in Windows is VLC.
[06:48] <word> on ubuntu how do you tell what version you have?
[06:49] <Madpilot> word, System->About Ubuntu
[06:49] <ThanatosDrive> Madpilot: I'm on 3x128MB RAM. That makes 384MB, but they're all different brands, so speed issues between RAM could cause some slowing down.
[06:49] <astro76> word, lsb_release -a
[06:49] <ThanatosDrive> Madpilot, astro76: I'm on Feisty Fawn, with a GNOME desktop, BTW.
[06:49] <word> Thanks, tryin to help a guy running ubuntu while i sit on kubuntu heh
[06:50] <Madpilot> ThanatosDrive, 384 isn't a lot these days. Gnome is getting faster all the time, but still... you might want to consider switching to Xubuntu, if adding a chunk more RAM isn't an option.
[06:50] <ThanatosDrive> Madpilot: I'm hoping to grab dual 256's (my mobo can only handle 512MB). Do you think 512MB is adequate to smoothly run GNOME or KDE?
[06:50] <rhoruns> anyone know how i can set my windows to auto-bring-to-front whenever i open an application?
[06:51] <astro76> ThanatosDrive, I'd say it's the minimum
[06:51] <Madpilot> ThanatosDrive, I'd say 512 is the minimum for either - do you have a swap partition too?
[06:51] <Newbie_Dude> wow open arena 0.7 is great, much better than the repository 0.6
[06:51] <ThanatosDrive> astro76: Dang. Looks like I'll have to wait for college to get some kind of decent PC.
[06:51] <ThanatosDrive> Madpilot: Yeah I do. Don't know how large it is though.
[06:51] <asc> ThanatosDrive: 384 is plenty. Gnome works fine on 256.
[06:52] <ThanatosDrive> asc: It may work fine, but I'm looking for fast, as well.
[06:52] <asc> ThanatosDrive: Well, if you open too many programs it will get slow. :p
[06:52] <ThanatosDrive> After all, I swiched to Ubuntu just to learn C, because I hear it's a better environment and most programming occurs on Linux.
[06:52] <asc> ThanatosDrive: The system can take up to 400 MB of RAM if you have enough to spare, but it can get down to like 64 before it starts paging much.
[06:53] <Madpilot> ThanatosDrive, a /swap partition should be around twice the size of your RAM - that said, I run with 1GB of RAM and no swap at all, and don't often even fill up all the RAM...
[06:53] <asc> I have 768 and it never touches the swap.
[06:53] <astro76> ThanatosDrive, type free -m
[06:53] <rhoruns> i have 2GB of ram, does that mean i should have 4GB of swap?
[06:53] <TaJMoX> rhoruns: heavens no
[06:53] <rhoruns> haha ok
[06:53] <TaJMoX> twice the ram is not a good idea for swap anymore
[06:53] <astro76> yeah starting at 1GB -2GB ram you don't really need swap
[06:54] <asc> <-- Thinks there's no reason to have more than 384 swap.
[06:54] <rhoruns> ok :)
[06:54] <astro76> although if you want to hiberate you do
[06:54] <asc> except hibernating
[06:54] <ThanatosDrive> astro76: You want me to paste?
[06:54] <asc> :p
[06:54] <astro76> ThanatosDrive, sure
[06:54] <ThanatosDrive>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[06:54] <ThanatosDrive> Mem:           376        371          5          0         25        109
[06:54] <ThanatosDrive> -/+ buffers/cache:        236        140
[06:54] <ThanatosDrive> Swap:          839         78        760
[06:54] <TaJMoX> My rule of thumb for swap is: 2GB - RAM = Swap
[06:54] <astro76> sorry, should have mentioned
[06:54] <astro76> !paste ThanatosDrive
[06:54] <ThanatosDrive> pastebin, I assume?
[06:55] <astro76> !paste | ThanatosDrive
[06:55] <ubotu> ThanatosDrive: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:55] <TaJMoX> depends on what you're doing though.   if you're rendering or doing math, then have more
[06:55] <astro76> ThanatosDrive, so you're swapping, that's the problem
[06:55] <rhoruns> now, can someone kindly point me to the app that'll let me force new windows to be brought to the front? :)
[06:55] <ThanatosDrive> astro76: How do I get to fix this problem? If there is a fix.
[06:55] <astro76> ThanatosDrive, more ram ;)
[06:55] <Newbie_Dude> Anyone use Pidgin? How does it compare to GAIM? Better/Worse?
[06:55] <ThanatosDrive> astro76: Gah. Okay.
[06:56] <astro76> ThanatosDrive, and maybe try xubuntu as Madpilot suggested
[06:56] <ThanatosDrive> astro76: I'm planning on adding an ATI Radeon 9300 as well, do you think that'd help?
[06:56] <astro76> in the interim
[06:56] <astro76> not at all
[06:56] <ThanatosDrive> ?
[06:56] <ThanatosDrive> Is that directed to me? The 'not at all'
[06:57] <TaJMoX> Newbie_Dude: i like pidgin more - less buggy
[06:57] <astro76> yes, that will only improve 3d graphics
[06:57] <TaJMoX> Newbie_Dude: plugins are cooler too
[06:57] <astro76> ThanatosDrive, and with your ram games fancy games probably won't do too well
[06:57] <ThanatosDrive> TaJMoX: What bugs does gaim have?
[06:57] <TaJMoX> <3 ubuntu
[06:58] <Newbie_Dude> TaJMoX: thanks i'll check it out
[06:58] <TaJMoX> ThanatosDrive: on several computers i run, gaim closes unexpectedly during heavy use
[06:58] <ThanatosDrive> astro76: Do I need to install Xubuntu, or can I just gra the xfce4 desktop environment?
[06:58] <rhoruns> ok, if my window problem can't be fixed, then can someone help me get my sound working? apparently SB Audigies support ALSA, but i'm not getting any sound what-soever
[06:58] <TaJMoX> ThanatosDrive: i  installed the xfce4 package - i love xfce
[06:58] <astro76> rhoruns, have you checked mixer levels/mute settings?
[06:58] <rhoruns> yes
[06:59] <rhoruns> they're all at max, and unmuted
[06:59] <TaJMoX> ThanatosDrive: that includes thunar, the file browser, and the xfce4-terminal and stuffs
[06:59] <TaJMoX> installing xubuntu-desktop package will take like hundreds of un needed megabytes
[06:59] <asc> ThanatosDrive: Either works, but Xubuntu will use less disk space, if that's a concern.
[07:00] <Frawgie> anyone know how to get xchat to show the list of people in a given room?
[07:00] <ThanatosDrive> TaJMoX: Will that affect my already set GNOME settings?
[07:00] <asc> (rather than having gnome-desktop /and/ xfce4)
[07:00] <rhoruns> yes Frawgie, drag that little thin baige line on the right :)
[07:00] <asc> ThanatosDrive: xfce4 uses a different settings daemon than GNOME. Your gnome settings should remain the same, but they won't be used.
[07:00] <Frawgie> oh, lol, thanks
[07:00] <rhoruns> :D np :)
[07:01] <TaJMoX> rhoruns: you get sound with esd or oss ?
[07:01] <rhoruns> have not tried, i will now
[07:01] <ThanatosDrive> asc: So basically I lose the settings, etc?
[07:01] <ThanatosDrive> asc: I mean, they're still there, but none is used...that's about the same as not having them, yeah?
[07:02] <asc> ThanatosDrive: Yeah, pretty much.
[07:02] <TaJMoX> ThanatosDrive: nope - you just run the xfce session at login and it works perfectly - run all your gnome/kde apps too - that's what i always do is install regular ubuntu then install xfce4 for my main desktop manager.   its way faster and minimalistic
[07:02] <asc> ThanatosDrive: Xfce has equivalent control panels for most things.
[07:02] <TaJMoX> you wont lose anything...  you'll lose your gnome panels you know
[07:02] <ThanatosDrive> asc: Will I have to reinstall things such as ntfs-3g, or Java Desktop Environment?
[07:02] <asc> ThanatosDrive: No.
[07:03] <ThanatosDrive> asc: Can I choose which environment to boot into/
[07:03] <TaJMoX> yes
[07:03] <ThanatosDrive> Ah.
[07:03] <asc> ThanatosDrive: Yes. You can select at the login screen.
[07:03] <TaJMoX> at the login screen choose session
[07:03] <ThanatosDrive> I'm at the download screen now, but I'm not sure where to go from there.
[07:03] <scottie7> are there any bonafide network gurus here?
[07:03] <scottie7> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/126711
[07:03] <ThanatosDrive> I assume the graphical installer?
[07:04] <asc> ThanatosDrive: You can do 'sudo apt-get install xfce4' in a terminal.
[07:04] <astro76> ThanatosDrive, just like installing any other package
[07:04] <Frawgie> emm, ok, im tryin to install this here package and it tells me i dont have the kernel source installed....anyone know what package that is right off the top of your head?
[07:04] <bobgill> What does totem use, xine or gstreamer?
[07:04] <varka> bobgill: you can choose
[07:05] <ThanatosDrive> astro76: I've come to realize Ubuntu is all about ease of installing. Everything I need is all in 'sudo apt-get'
[07:05] <bobgill> varka: how ?
[07:05] <Frawgie> nvm, found it
[07:05] <varka> bobgill: depends on what package you install, totem-gstreamer or totem-xine
[07:05] <cozby> ok, i just ran apt-get install nfs-server etc.. and now I haven't a clue where it installed to?
[07:06] <cozby> is there a defualt location for apt-get installs?
[07:06] <cozby> like BSD ports puts everythin in /usr/local/, what does ubuntu do?
[07:06] <bobgill> varka: ah ok I see it in Synaptic now I have gstreamer, thanks :)
[07:06] <Bob_le_Pointu> => /var/cache/apt
[07:06] <rhoruns> dangit.. i cant get any of my sound crap to work
[07:07] <Bob_le_Pointu> => /var/cache/apt/archives maybe.
[07:07] <cozby> Bob_le_Pointu: um ok
[07:08] <reed026> hello, is ubuntu.com down for everyone?
[07:08] <reed026> I did a ping test and it says the server is offline
[07:08] <rhoruns> working for me :)
[07:08] <astro76> works
[07:09] <asc> Not for me. rhoruns, ping it and give us the ip?
[07:09] <rhoruns> how do i ping in linux? lol
[07:09] <astro76> ping
[07:09] <Bob_le_Pointu> ping
[07:09] <astro76> :p
[07:09] <reed026> that is weird. I can visit everything else so I figured the server is down
[07:09] <asc> applications->utilities->terminal, 'ping ubuntu.com'
[07:09] <Bob_le_Pointu> 64 bytes from arctowski.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_seq=1 ttl=50 time=46.0 ms
[07:09] <rhoruns> <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:09] <rhoruns> works :)
[07:10] <asc> nothing
[07:10] <rhoruns> weird
[07:10] <reed026> think it's an IP Ban?
[07:10] <asc> Not for this many people.
[07:10] <reed026> Or something to do with out ISPs?
[07:10] <Lazureus> what's the command again that lets you change video drivers from console?
[07:10] <asc> Some sort of network error in any case.
[07:11] <asc> Lazureus: Probably 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:11] <Lazureus> yeah that
[07:11] <reed026> Very odd. I was going to try to download a fresh copy of Ubuntu Server for my old machine, as I was attempting to install it from my old 7.04 cd and it gave me checksum errors
[07:12] <Lazureus> and what's the command to attempt to start x again when it didn't make it in after changing video card?
[07:12] <BlackChaos> wonder y i had 2 register
[07:13] <BlackChaos> anyways
[07:13] <BlackChaos> i need hlp
[07:14] <Madpilot> BlackChaos, ask an actual question if you want actual help...
[07:14] <BlackChaos> i just installed Ubuntu on my vista box but at start up when grub boot menu starts up i get all these things and all i want it 2 say is windows Vista preimum and Ubuntu
[07:14] <Lazureus> hmm what's the command that lets me restart x or whatever when stuck as root in console mode?
[07:14] <oldude67> startx
[07:14] <BlackChaos> lol 1st time ive seend this channel so quiet
[07:14] <|GraBBer|> Lazureus, /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[07:15] <BlackChaos> usually its flooded wit ppl needing hlp
[07:15] <r00723r0> i have ubuntu 64-bit and i need to install flash
[07:15] <r00723r0> how do i do this
[07:15] <BlackChaos> i know that i have 2 open the grub boot menu txt but wats the command
[07:15] <Lazureus> there it goes
[07:15] <Madpilot> BlackChaos, the various grub options are mostly for recovery if something goes wrong - you probably want to leave them in place...
[07:15] <Lazureus> startx got me in x but it was using default themes and stuff
[07:15] <davina> BlackChaos, u need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and take out the extra ones, then run grub, type in root (hd0) then setup (hd0) then quit and reboot
[07:15] <reed026> r00724r0 if you want a flash player, just download it through Firefox
[07:15] <RAOF> r00723r0: In Gutsy, it's "sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-gnash"
[07:16] <r00723r0> no no not gnash
[07:16] <BlackChaos> hmm i under stand but here is the thing
[07:16] <slavik> anyway for grub to be able to see sata drives?
[07:16] <r00723r0> gnash is a horrible replacement to flash
[07:16] <|GraBBer|> Lazureus, Because you're in X as root now. =)
[07:16] <RAOF> r00723r0: Heh, not in gutsy.  Works for youtube :)
[07:16] <BlackChaos> im new 2 linux and im scared that if i do something wrong in the grub menu txt thing that i will mess my pc up
[07:16] <r00723r0> hmm
[07:16] <Lazureus> oh lol
[07:16] <r00723r0> and how do i upgrade to gutsy?
[07:16] <shingouz> hmm.. who's the bot i can bomb with questions?
[07:16] <RAOF> r00723r0: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205 is what you're after
[07:16] <Lazureus> ok, so beryl is broke, how do i get it to work with the new drivers i'm using?
[07:16] <Madpilot> BlackChaos, then leave grub alone...
[07:17] <Lazureus> any time i tell it to use beryl window manager, it constantly and instantly goes right back to metacity
[07:17] <r00723r0> but how do i upgrade to gutsy?
[07:17] <Lazureus> and does nothing
[07:17] <reed026> !bot
[07:17] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:17] <davina> black chaos, dont worry, u can recover any mistakes by booting from the Ubuntu Live CD
[07:17] <rockets> Anybody played project starfighter? It seems to get laggy on me all of the sudden
[07:17] <shingouz> reed026: thanks
[07:17] <BlackChaos> but i dont want it 2 say all those things cause my mom uses this and she is not very pc friendly so i want it 2 be easier 4 her
[07:17] <BlackChaos> i already know wats the differ but she dont
[07:18] <RAOF> r00723r0: You don't, not yet.   DONE!
[07:18] <RAOF> BlackChaos: Saying "destroy your data" is less punchy
[07:18] <reed026> Grub is a bootloader that gives you the option to choose which Operating System you wish boot. If she wants to use Vista at bootup she can choose Vista, if Ubuntu then Ubuntu.
[07:18] <Madpilot> BlackChaos, if she only ever uses one of the OSes, you can set grub to just automtically boot to that - then you have to hit "esc" to get into the grub menu for the other options
[07:19] <BlackChaos> yes but i want it 2 look neat
[07:19] <BlackChaos> and organize
[07:19] <slavik> BlackChaos: what does your mother use the PC for?
[07:19] <Bob_le_Pointu> cozby: Sorry then, I didn't understand your question, what do you want ?
[07:19] <BlackChaos> i want to hide all the other things and 2 just say windows vista and ubuntu
[07:19] <ThanatosDrive> To restart in xfce4, I can't just click 'Switch user' huh? Do I need to Ctrl+Alt+Bckspce?
[07:19] <slavik> BlackChaos: please see my previous suggestion
[07:20] <BlackChaos> my mom uses mostly for just browsing the net, shopping and email
[07:20] <slavik> ThanatosDrive: no
[07:20] <cozby> Bob_le_Pointu: I want to find out where/if my apt-get install nfs-user-server got installed? I don't see the nfsd binary anywhere
[07:20] <slavik> BlackChaos: she doesn't need vista
[07:20] <asc> ThanatosDrive: Use the 'logout' option in the shutdown screen-thing.
[07:20] <ThanatosDrive> Also i noticed switching users has the nice function of continuing playing of music. Cool =D
[07:20] <BlackChaos> thats the only thing she knows how 2 use
[07:20] <slavik> BlackChaos: I am sorry but I am getting very angry ... just show her where the firefox icon is and be done with it
[07:21] <BlackChaos> and she's not good wit pc so im not gonna force her to learn a new os when it took her like a freaking year to learn how to use windows
[07:21] <metrix> where do I set my language and lc_all variables?
[07:21] <|GraBBer|> Lazureus, /etc/init.d/?dm start|stop|restart starts X normally, startx starts X as the user you execute it as. =) Well, depends on what version of Ubuntu you run. If Edgy I must say I personally don't know of any good howto as I haven't changed the driver in Edgy.
[07:21] <reed026> The only difference my mother can tell between XP and Ubuntu is that Ubuntu doesn't have Spider Solitary and I can't seem to find a "free" copy for linux
[07:21] <slavik> BlackChaos: she has to learn a new OS either way, unless she already knows how to use vista, besides, what does she have to learn? how to click on things to get firefox open? please tell me you are kidding
[07:22] <varka> reed026: run it with wine
[07:22] <Bob_le_Pointu> Ah...
[07:22] <r00723r0> you said that gnash actually works in gutsy?
[07:22] <tupa> I'm having trouble with xserver-xorg-video-unichrome, I tried setting via, and unichrome instead of vesa in xorg.conf but X doesn't work
aislerot solitar has all kinds of solitare
[07:22] <BlackChaos> how do u get angry when ive been trying 2 do this and i cant so im the one that should be angry ur just sitting there typing while im trying to fiqure this out cause ive never used linux before in my life so im trying 2 adapt 2 this
[07:22] <rockets> ah fixed it
[07:22] <rockets> fulscreen is lame
[07:22] <yigal> stir it up little darling
[07:22] <RAOF> r00723r0: Yes, it does.  It's still not a complete flash replacement, but it's pretty good
[07:22] <tupa> I also tried using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-conf and setting via as the driver, but no luck
[07:22] <r00723r0> rockets: for a second there i thought your name was "root sex"
[07:22] <rockets> lol
[07:22] <r00723r0> RAOF: plays games?
[07:22] <andrupal> Having ubuntu installation woes:  The Grub installer keeps hanging.  This is attempt at dual boot, Feisty and Windows XP.  Anyone know why this is happening or how to fix?
 Applications->Games->aislerot. Check it out
[07:22] <astro76> |GraBBer|, ahh now I see the utility of invoke-rc.d
[07:23] <Madpilot> BlackChaos, please use English, not AIMglish. It's "to", not '2'...
[07:23] <BlackChaos> k so can ya just give me the command 2 bring up the grub boot menu txt
[07:23] <holycow> BlackChaos, its hard to do tech support, burnout sets in quickly
[07:23] <Bob_le_Pointu> cozby: you can see that with synaptc, I don't know how to do it in terminal.
[07:23] <r00723r0> rockets: oh well, the two things i think about most
[07:23] <tupa> it is supposed that xserver-xorg-video-unichrome replaces via, but I got no luck
[07:23] <slavik> BlackChaos: what exactly are you trying to figure out (NOTE: you need to have a REALLY good reason to mess with the grub menu)
[07:23] <holycow> thats probably the best explanatin
[07:23] <RAOF> r00723r0: Don't know, haven't tried :)
[07:23] <reed026> wow it has Spider too. Hehe thanks scott. Never even realized it :)
[07:23] <yigal> r00723r0: definately
[07:23] <BlackChaos> i do
[07:23] <slavik> BlackChaos: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:23] <BlackChaos> k thx slavik
[07:23] <slavik> BlackChaos: I can prove that you don't :)
[07:23] <|GraBBer|> astro76?
[07:23] <cozby> Bob_le_Pointu: k, thx
[07:23] <BlackChaos> dont wat
[07:23] <davina> u might want to save to current version first tho BlackChaos
[07:24] <ThanatosDrive> I never got the option to pick xfce4
[07:24] <ThanatosDrive> Booted straight into GNOME
[07:24] <astro76> |GraBBer|, it doesn't matter what display manager you have, invoke-rc.d servicename restart, although I like your ?dm also ;)
[07:24] <asc> ThanatosDrive: Did you login at any point?
[07:24] <slavik> have a good reason ... changing the way the menu looks for someone when you don't have a good grasp of what it is supposed to do and why it has extra things is not a good reason
[07:24] <ThanatosDrive> asc: Yes.
[07:24] <g0dd3ss> hi everyone, in gnome, is there a way to make the hide panel buttons, and desktop switcher transparent?
[07:24] <|GraBBer|> astro76, Aaahhh... =)
[07:24] <davina> ThanatosDrive, install xubuntu that run xfce as default
[07:25] <varka> ThanatosDrive: you have to go to the menu at the loginscreen on the lower left corner and choose xfce as session
[07:25] <ThanatosDrive> davina: I don't want to lose everything I've already done.
[07:25] <BlackChaos> i just want 2 hide those other options
[07:25] <asc> ThanatosDrive: Look for a 'sessions' menu on the login screen. Xfce will be an option there.
[07:25] <slavik> because once you upgrade the kernel or run grub-update (or is it update-grub?) explicitly, it will get reset. :)
[07:25] <ThanatosDrive> varka: Ahh, thanks.
[07:25] <ThanatosDrive> Brb (hopefully), everyone!
[07:25] <BlackChaos> i dont want to chg it completly
[07:25] <astro76> |GraBBer|, although that actually doesn't make sense.... me thinks it's time for bed
[07:25] <slavik> BlackChaos: has your mother even tried to use ubuntu?
[07:25] <BlackChaos> no
[07:26] <slavik> BlackChaos: there is a first time for everything
[07:26] <|GraBBer|> astro76, which doesn't make sense? LoL
[07:26] <asc> slavik: You don't want to make the tech illiterate do new things. They don't appreciate it.
[07:26] <BlackChaos> but i want two be the only to use it cause i want to learn how 2 code so windows 4 her and Ubuntu for me
[07:26] <Lazureus> it seems beryl is not compatible with nvidia=/
[07:26] <bruenig> Lazureus, that is incorrect
[07:26] <rhoruns> yes it is
[07:26] <Lazureus> cuz i reloaded beryl, and it 'worked' but made my entire screen solid white and i had to hard reset
[07:27] <Lazureus> cuz i coudln't see
[07:27] <rhoruns> you probably didnt install it right
[07:27] <Lazureus> all i could see was mouse cursor
[07:27] <Madpilot> BlackChaos, if all she does is web & email, why not just move your mom to Ubuntu too?
[07:27] <bruenig> Lazureus, probably some misconfiguration somewhere
[07:27] <slavik> asc: I already told him why it isn't a good, but I am not the admin on his system :), I don't have to fix it if it breaks. :)
[07:27] <Lazureus> do i have to get official nvidia drivers to get it to work?
[07:27] <RAOF> !beryl > Lazureus <---- check the PM from ubotu
[07:27] <rhoruns> no
[07:27] <astro76> |GraBBer|, I'm not sure if you can pass ?dm to invoke-rc.d, if not the old style way is better
[07:27] <Lazureus> cuz right now i'm using whatever ubuntu came with
[07:27] <slavik> Madpilot: because she "doesn't know how to use it"
[07:27] <bruenig> Lazureus, yeah you need drivers
[07:27] <Madpilot> BlackChaos, then you could nuke Virusta and do something useful with that HD space
[07:27] <Frogzoo> Lazureus: not so - you need to run aiglx - for more -> #ubuntu-effects
[07:27] <bruenig> Lazureus, you don't need the ones from nvidia.com but you can't use vesa or nv
[07:27] <BlackChaos> she also uses lots of apps that r not compatible wit linux
[07:27] <bruenig> or whatever it defaults too
[07:28] <|GraBBer|> astro76, Did mean the ? as a wildcard as it could be ie. gdm or xdm
[07:28] <Lazureus> oh i'm using nv right now
[07:28] <slavik> BlackChaos: like what?
[07:28] <|GraBBer|> astro76, Or did you mean pass ie. gdm to invoke? =)
[07:28] <slavik> BlackChaos: want to learn more about linux? try to get the apps to work with wine :)
[07:28] <Madpilot> slavik, for my money, 'only does web & email' == 'doesn't really know how to use any OS' - but then, I'm a geek.
[07:28] <BlackChaos> got no idea ill have to ask her
[07:28] <|GraBBer|> astro76, I must admit I have never used invoke-rc. Am reading up on it atm. =)
[07:28] <ThanatosDrive> Success! Although this feels very different...
[07:28] <BlackChaos> dam im so used to writing how i write
[07:28] <ThanatosDrive> And my keyboard shortcuts are gone. Shoot.
[07:28] <slavik> Madpilot: I agree with your definition (my mom knows firefox ... no matter the OS)
[07:28] <BlackChaos> and now i cant
[07:29] <crysalys> anyone know how to make soundjuicer rip mp3's?
[07:29] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> so whats the myth that linux dont suport yahoo voice servers??
[07:29] <crysalys> i dont have ogg support so i cant use ogg files
[07:29] <Javid> is there a decent linux torrent client similar to utorrent?
[07:29] <slavik> Vsop_vsop_vsop: pidgin doesn't have voive/video yet :P
[07:29] <Javid> wine + utorrent just isn't doing it for me
[07:29] <slavik> Javid: there is azureus
[07:29] <BlackChaos> but its me and im really good wit a computer and im having trouble understanding the way linux wrk
[07:29] <xoRock> need help, i have 2 flash disk, 1 one of them i want to format, how do i see the list of disks so i know which one which, like /dev/sda1 etc
[07:29] <Bob_le_Pointu> wine+torrent
[07:29] <Madpilot> crysalys, install the various MP3 codecs for Ubuntu, and SJ should have an mp3 ripping option
[07:29] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> Slavik: any talk about it latley??
[07:29] <xoRock> need help, i have 2 flash disk, 1 one of them i want to format, how do i see the list of disks so i know which one which, like /dev/sda1 etc
[07:30] <slavik> Vsop_vsop_vsop: v3 last I read anything about it
[07:30] <astro76> |GraBBer|, yeah it's a good way to run init scripts, but I just tested it and ?dm doesn't work, so you have to do your way for restarting ?-display-manager
[07:30] <Madpilot> BlackChaos, 'knows Windows' != 'good with computers' - sorry, dude.
[07:30] <slavik> BlackChaos: are you a college student by chance?
[07:30] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> slavik: v3??
[07:30] <BlackChaos> im a senior in HS
[07:30] <crysalys> madpilot: where do I get them?
[07:30] <slavik> BlackChaos: here's a hint, linux works the way that unix does, which has been developed for over 30 years ... (the way, not the code)
[07:31] <Madpilot> ubotu, mp3 | crysalys
[07:31] <ubotu> crysalys: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:31] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> slavik: is there not a yahoo for linux?..
[07:31] <slavik> BlackChaos: thinking of going for computer science in college?
[07:31] <xoRock> sorry if its a repeat Q, just disconnected, need help, i have 2 flash disk, 1 one of them i want to format, how do i see the list of disks so i know which one which, like /dev/sda1 etc
[07:31] <|GraBBer|> astro76, Just took a quick look at its help doc. Will have to check more into it, looks nice. =)
[07:31] <slavik> Vsop_vsop_vsop: pidgin is the only one I know/use
[07:31] <ThanatosDrive> slavik: I certainly am =D
[07:31] <BlackChaos> look i just came here 2 see if there is a way to hide the other options like recovery and all that other stuff
[07:31] <slavik> ThanatosDrive: do yourself a favor, take a unix class
[07:31] <g0dd3ss> Vsop_vsop_vsop,  you could try gyache
[07:31] <holycow> xoRock, fdisk -l
[07:31] <BlackChaos> yea i am slavik
[07:31] <astro76> |GraBBer|, check out update-rc.d too for adding init scripts
[07:31] <slavik> BlackChaos: there isn't unless you remove them completely which is not a good idea either way
[07:31] <rhoruns> baah, still cant get any of my sound working :(
[07:31] <BlackChaos> i am thinking in going 4 computer science in college
[07:32] <|GraBBer|> astro76, Thx! =)
[07:32] <ThanatosDrive> slavik: My school doesn't even offer a CS class.
[07:32] <BlackChaos> dam
[07:32] <slavik> BlackChaos: take a unix class
[07:32] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> godd3ss: not sure that i want to if there is not voice!!
[07:32] <slavik> ThanatosDrive: I meant college
[07:32] <xoRock> holycow, nice thx
[07:32] <Madpilot> BlackChaos, there is, but those options exist for a good reason - namely, recovery if you scrag your system. And messing with grub is a good way to scrag your system...
[07:32] <slavik> Vsop_vsop_vsop: v3 of pidgin
[07:32] <holycow> denada
[07:32] <BlackChaos> i will when i get 2 college
[07:32] <BlackChaos> but im not
[07:32] <slavik> Madpilot: unless you use lilo, then you can mess up the BIOS ...
[07:32] <BlackChaos> dam wat to do
[07:32] <g0dd3ss> Vsop_vsop_vsop,  they claim to support voice 8-} dunno if it really works or not, but worth a shot
[07:32] <ThanatosDrive> Is there a way to uninstall xfce4?
[07:33] <|GraBBer|> astro76, /etc/init.d/? start|stop|restart has always worked for me and I have done the hard way to add init scripts. If I get this right it would ease up a bunch. =)
[07:33] <ThanatosDrive> I'm going back to GNOME. This desktop environment is just...not for me.
[07:33] <Bob_le_Pointu> apt-get remove xfce4 ?
[07:33] <ThanatosDrive> Thanks Bob_le_Pointu!
[07:33] <g0dd3ss> Vsop_vsop_vsop,  "supports almost all of the features you would expect to find on the official Windows Yahoo! client: Voice chat, webcams, faders, 'nicknames', audibles, avatars, display images, and more. "
[07:33] <peeps_work> ThanatosDrive, apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[07:33] <g0dd3ss> lol
[07:33] <slavik> ThanatosDrive: sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[07:33] <ThanatosDrive> BRB everyone.
[07:33] <peeps_work> beat ya
[07:33] <peeps_work> ;-)
[07:33] <slavik> go aaway
[07:34] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> godd3ss.. have you tryed it?
[07:34] <peeps_work> me?
[07:34] <ThanatosDrive> ...How do i logout of xfce4?
[07:34] <crysalys> ubotu: sorry neuby!  wont it give me probs down loading in some countries?
[07:34] <g0dd3ss> i have used gyache before yes, i did not try the voice/webcam features tho
[07:34] <benbruscella> is it possible to copy the ISO image to a USB key and install from that?
[07:34] <peeps_work> ThanatosDrive, there should be a power button in the corner
[07:34] <Madpilot> crysalys, ubotu is a bot...
[07:34] <BlackChaos> thx 4 the hlp
[07:34] <slavik> !botsnack
[07:34] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[07:35] <slavik> rofl
[07:35] <g0dd3ss> 8-]
[07:35] <crysalys> madpilot: sorry neuby!  wont it give me probs down loading in some countries?
[07:35] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> g0dd3ss: see getting back to knowig if it works
[07:35] <Madpilot> crysalys, won't what give you problems?
[07:35] <Frawgie> is there a way to get beryl to load on startup instead of clicking the icon every time?
[07:36] <g0dd3ss> Vsop_vsop_vsop,  i can think of one good way to find out for sure 8-]
[07:36] <crysalys> madpilot: downloading "illegal" codecs
[07:36] <Madpilot> crysalys, that's up to you.  Install it
[07:37] <xoRock> holycow, fdisk is not showing my harddisk partition, or is there a way?
[07:37] <holycow> yes run it as sudo
[07:37] <xoRock> okay
[07:37] <g0dd3ss> Vsop_vsop_vsop, you're onto it -]
[07:37] <holycow> fdisk run as user will only show you partitions ou can play with as that user, say usb disks
[07:37] <crysalys> madpilot: this is understood. but i dont want my ip traced
[07:38] <crysalys> madpilot: not sure if they are legal where i live or not to be honest
[07:38] <|GraBBer|> benbruscella, https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/installation-guide/i386/boot-usb-files.html
[07:38] <Madpilot> crysalys, there's always the option of using an out-of-country repository.
[07:38] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> g0dd3ss: cmon now .. not that much of a newbie...  just like to ask the silly questions ... let the Real geek's tell me ( i use that term lightly )
[07:39] <BlackChaos> k i did it
[07:39] <ThanatosDrive> Is there a way to get gaim to automatically join channels on servers, and to automatically identify me? It's getting to be a pain.
[07:39] <|GraBBer|> Frawgie, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL#Adding_Beryl_to_an_Existing_Session
[07:39] <crysalys> madpilot: how do i access out of country repositories?
[07:39] <Frawgie> thanks
[07:39] <BlackChaos> thx guys i was able 2 remove
[07:40] <|GraBBer|> Frawgie, Yvw =)
[07:40] <n2diy> Can I use my wireless router to sniff for hot spots?
[07:40] <BlackChaos> the other options and just keep the things that i wanted
[07:40] <BlackChaos> but i did keep a copy of the original just in case
[07:40] <Madpilot> crysalys, you can use the main Ubuntu repos just by editing your sources.list and removing the country code from the URLs...
[07:40] <ThanatosDrive> Which version of pidgin do I get?
[07:41] <dissection> Do most people here use dnsmasq to cache nameservers? Is it recommended, or are there any problems of using it?
[07:41] <slavik> elbwhat about conv_im_send_with_flags and using the raw flag, would that do what I think it does?
[07:41] <benbruscella> cheers
[07:41] <crysalys> madpilot: ok, understood.  then when i apt-get it will pull them from any other available repository?
[07:41] <|GraBBer|> n2diy, Depends on the router. It's not a Ubuntu specific thing as it aint a computer hardware like a card, but runs its own little OS.
[07:42] <Madpilot> crysalys, it'll use the main Ubuntu repos (the ones in the UK) then
[07:42] <crysalys> madpilot: do i need to edit my source.list?
[07:42] <varun0> does anyone have any recommendations for an X FTP client?
[07:42] <crysalys> madpilot: sorry you already said that.
[07:43] <Madpilot> crysalys, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:43] <Madpilot> variant, Filezilla
[07:43] <benbruscella> typical - ubuntu users are sooo helpful!  why cant I get an answer from fedora users?  sigh
[07:43] <bruenig> hmmm
[07:43] <BlackChaos> is there a way 2 set xchat so that i dont have 2 keep on entering the password
[07:43] <crysalys> madpilot: got it.  gksudo ... and then delete country code. anything else?
[07:44] <bruenig> BlackChaos, when you get to the screen that you click connect on, go to edit and put the password
[07:44] <ThanatosDrive> Anyone? What version of pidgin do I get?
[07:44] <bruenig> ThanatosDrive, latest
[07:44] <BlackChaos> oh ok thx bruenig
[07:44] <Madpilot> crysalys, that's about it - then restart Synaptic and hit the Reload button so it checks the edited sources.list
[07:44] <eboyjr> BlackChaos: You can goto XChat > Network List, goto Ubuntu Servers server thing and click edit. There is a spot for NickServ Password
[07:45] <crysalys> madpilot: thanks for helpin a neub.
[07:45] <ThanatosDrive> bruenig: I mean from here http://pidgin.im/download/
[07:45] <bruenig> ThanatosDrive, source
[07:45] <|GraBBer|> varun0, Personally I use gftp. But only way to know what one likes is to test (apt-cache search ftp) and check what they are like via google (ie. linux x ftp clients). =)
[07:46] <BlackChaos> yes thx eboyjr im doing this at the moment
[07:46] <Javid> I use gftp too, it's functional
[07:46] <varun0> |GraBBer|: fair enough :-) I could/will do the google search, but it's always useful to see what people recommend
[07:46] <eboyjr> What screen capture program can record videos/photos of the desktop?
[07:47] <eboyjr> A good one?
[07:47] <|GraBBer|> varun0, I think this was for you too, but that tab got the one answering: <Madpilot> variant, Filezilla
[07:47] <astro76> eboyjr, press print screen key
[07:47] <Sanctusorium> Hey there all.  I got a question.  In Ubuntu, whenever I use the button to turn my touchpad on and off (its a laptop) the ubuntu help window appears.  How can I turn that off?
[07:47] <kapace> helllo, i have a corrupted hard-drive which i'd like to save, what tool are available in ubuntu to help me?
[07:47] <astro76> eboyjr, just photos of course
[07:47] <Sanctusorium> Its rather annoying XD
[07:48] <varun0> |GraBBer|: haha........totally missed that. thanks! and thanks Madpilot Javid
[07:48] <astro76> Sanctusorium, heh, doesn't happen with mine
[07:48] <eboyjr> astro76: Ok, I was just about to ask you if that did video. Thx, I do that with Windows too. ( used too )
[07:48] <Sanctusorium> Aw, lucky ;)
[07:48] <Madpilot> |GraBBer|, varun0 - missed that I'd had a tab-complete error. Nice catch
[07:48] <Javid> when I want software I apt-cache search for the basic term of it then grep that for whatever else
[07:49] <astro76> Sanctusorium, I have a help key which works properly (brings up the help)
[07:49] <Javid> like search ftp | grep ssl
[07:49] <Javid> or whatever
[07:49] <ThanatosDrive> bruenig: I have the .tar.bz on my desktop. Now what?
[07:49] <|GraBBer|> Sanctusorium, I would recommend you to check for your brand here and look if the touchpad key is supported: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[07:49] <bruenig> ThanatosDrive, extract and compile
[07:49] <ThanatosDrive> bruenig: Compile?
[07:49] <sauvin> Is 12 GB large enough to hold a decently featureful install of ubuntu?
[07:49] <astro76> Sanctusorium, if you go to system>prefs>keyboard shortcuts, you can turn off the key for the help
[07:50] <bruenig> !compile | ThanatosDrive
[07:50] <ubotu> ThanatosDrive: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:50] <varka> sauvin: absolutely, about 3GB would be enough for most needs
[07:50] <sauvin> I'm a pig. :D
[07:50] <eboyjr> How does a 3GB operating system fit on a 700MB CD?
[07:50] <Sanctusorium> I am guessing it is supported, because it turns the pad off.  Just brings up the help center each time I turn if off.  I will try what Astro just said and check the page
[07:50] <kapace> compression
[07:51] <Madpilot> eboyjr, massive compression
[07:51] <eboyjr> Madpilot: Whoah
[07:51] <sauvin> Partly, and party because that 700MB CD contains code to allow you to grab stuff off external repositories.
[07:51] <kapace> what is that, like 3:1
[07:51] <varka> eboyjr: its packed and you're able to install severyl things over the internet
[07:51] <kapace> ya..
[07:51] <ThanatosDrive> uTorrent (running off WINE) isn't closing. Is there a way to Force Quit it?
[07:51] <eboyjr> varka: cool, good idea
[07:51] <Madpilot> eboyjr, Ubuntu installed is actually closer to 2GB - maybe just under.
[07:51] <sauvin> Depending on options :>
[07:51] <astro76> ThanatosDrive, killall wine
[07:51] <Bob_le_Pointu> ThanatosDrive: kill wine
[07:52] <kapace> i have a corrupted hard-drive which i'd like to save, what tool are available in ubuntu to help me?
[07:52] <|GraBBer|> Sanctusorium, Aaahhh... Ok, if it works what astro76 said should do the trick. =) The laptop testing team also has a channel here #ubuntu-laptop
[07:52] <astro76> something funky is going on for sure
[07:52] <klobster> I think I am having libc issues
[07:53] <astro76> that button should simply turn off the touchpad
[07:53] <rhoruns> i can't get my sound to work at all. i've been messing around with the options, i've unmuted everything, and maximized volume. here's my -class sound: http://pastebin.com/dbe37511
[07:53] <klobster> gxine (or the xine engine in other apps) keeps crasing while accessing libc.so.6
[07:54] <ThanatosDrive> astro76: Didn't work. WINE is closed but uTorrent isn't.
[07:54] <|GraBBer|> astro76, Yepp, but can be someone has sometimes set it to go to the helppage before they got it to work properly and now it has both the functions (or something similar). Well, life is... LoL =)
[07:55] <astro76> ThanatosDrive, type xkill, then click on the window
[07:55] <Sanctusorium> Astro and grabber, that worked ;)
[07:55] <|GraBBer|> Sanctusorium, Goodie! =)
[07:55] <Sanctusorium> I don't see my laptop on that list at all though.
[07:55] <Sanctusorium> Should I report how linux is working for me with mine?
[07:55] <astro76> what do you have?
[07:56] <Sanctusorium> HP Pavilion dv9553 (Note sure on the last three numbers)
[07:56] <Sanctusorium> Its a 9000 series
[07:57] <Sanctusorium> Ah
[07:57] <Sanctusorium> Found a couple of 9000 on that list
[07:57] <Sanctusorium> But its neither of those
[07:57] <Vsop_vsop_vsop> hey whats that progy that records your desktop.. i had it for windows.. whats a good one for ubuntu?
[07:57] <kapace> im wokring on a toshiba satallitem30...
[07:57] <kapace> *satellite
[07:57] <kapace> works ok..
[07:58] <|GraBBer|> Sanctusorium, Sure helps the developers if you have the time to put in the info about your laptop. =) The closes to yours I find is /HPPavilionDV9297ea
[07:58] <kapace> VLC?
[07:58] <|GraBBer|> Sanctusorium, Yepp =)
[07:58] <rhoruns> try Istanbul :P
[07:59] <Sanctusorium> I was right
[07:59] <Sanctusorium> Its a 9335NR
[07:59] <|GraBBer|> kapace, Working on a Toshiba TecraS1 and a T40, both work fine. But always find some small bugs to put on the testing page. Helps others too with the same problems. ;)
[08:00] <Sanctusorium> Works almost perfectly to be honest...  Other than that crazy touchpad button, it works fine in every way.
[08:00] <n2diy> |GraBBer|: Roger that, well, it will be Ubuntu specific, If I can determine if a router can talk to a hotspot. My concern is both the hotspot and router are servers, or at least the router is. Wireless routers/servers only talk to clients, no?
[08:00] <astro76> Sanctusorium, HP laptops are odd, I have a zd8250, it's a known problem if you have a dead battery but on ac nonetheless, the touchpad stutters and the keyboard misses keys unless you take the battery out
[08:01] <Sanctusorium> <.<;  thats incredibly odd/
[08:01] <ThanatosDrive> I've unzipped the pidgin-2.0.2.tar.bz2 Now what?
[08:01] <ThanatosDrive> I don't understand this whole configure deal.
[08:01] <astro76> dead as in dead, not just discharged, yeah still odd
[08:01] <|GraBBer|> n2diy, Depends on how they are set up. You can also set them up to talk to eachother and buil a system with roaming. =)
[08:02] <|GraBBer|> buil=build
[08:02] <rhoruns> anyone here an expert with setting up sound? :P
[08:02] <Sanctusorium> ThanatosDrive, I just did this a couple of hours ago :)
[08:02] <Sanctusorium> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Pidgin_2.0_.28former_GAIM.29
[08:02] <Sanctusorium> That helped me A LOT
[08:03] <Sanctusorium> sudo dpkg -i pidgin_2.0.2-1_i386.deb
[08:03] <j4ne> can you help me ? when i'm under xwindow and go back to console, i cannot anything .... the console is black ... (with intel driver provided by xserver-xorg-video-intel)
[08:03] <|GraBBer|> rhoruns, Not really, was ages ago I had to poke around with ALSA and OSS.  =p
[08:03] <Sanctusorium> Try typing that
[08:03] <rhoruns> bah
[08:03] <j4ne> can you help me ? when i'm under xwindow and go back to console, i cannot anything .... the console is black ... (with intel driver provided by xserver-xorg-video-intel and my card is 965 (x3100))
[08:03] <Sanctusorium> You cannot anything?
[08:03] <varun0> j4ne: I'm not sure I understand your problem. how do you go back to the console from xwindows?
[08:04] <|GraBBer|> j4ne, Have you tried ctrl+F1 ?
[08:04] <j4ne> sorry, i cannoty see anything on the console
[08:04] <Sanctusorium> Ah.
[08:04] <Sanctusorium> Do you have your text set as black?
[08:04] <j4ne> but i can back to Xorg and that work (but no console)
[08:04] <|GraBBer|> Errmmm j4ne, mean ALT+F1 ofcourse!
[08:04] <levander> From X-Windows to the console of Ctrl-Alt-F1
[08:05] <j4ne> Sanctusorium: no and the probleme going after the first launch of GDm or Xorg
[08:05] <j4ne> levander: yes
[08:05] <Sanctusorium> I seriously did that <_<;  Had back text on a black background.
[08:05] <n2diy> |GraBBer|: Roger that, I have two Linksys BEFW11S4 wireless routers, that won't talk to each other, and I haven't found a way to bridge them. So I can't experiment locally. But I know there is a hotspot  1/4 mile away. So, I guess I need to install sniffer software to see if I can "see" the hotspot?
[08:05] <varun0> could the monitor resolution/centering be off? so that the prompt is off screen?
[08:05] <|GraBBer|> levander, Please slap mesome too, lease. *sigh*
[08:05] <levander> j4ne: just type reset a couple of times and hit enter maybe
[08:05] <j4ne> levander: reset the console not working
[08:06] <levander> j4ne: you typed it more than once?
[08:06] <j4ne> levander: yes
[08:06] <levander> j4ne: sometimes there's already some typing on the command prompt, typing it twice ensures the reset command makes it to the shell