[12:01] <Daishi> ohh k
[12:01] <OneTruth> Ubuntu_noob:  Yep, what you are looking for is called VNC
[12:01] <Stormx2> Hey folks, does ubuntu have a place where it stores the number of max files open at any one time?
[12:01] <looksaus> ok, scan it for fglrx and radeon
[12:01] <Ubuntu_noob> is there a guide to setting up VNC on ubuntu?
[12:01] <looksaus> majd, grep fglrx xorg.conf.2006blah
[12:01] <majd> looksaus, it found radeon in the file
[12:02] <majd> but not fglrx
[12:02] <looksaus> ok, so now you're sure it's your old config
[12:02] <majd> k
[12:02] <looksaus> the safest way to go forward now is to
[12:02] <looksaus> make a backup copy somewhere of your current xorg.conf
[12:03] <majd> k
[12:03] <looksaus> move the old one back into place
[12:03] <xeh> delete the xorg.conf it is useless.
[12:03] <looksaus> then press ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:03] <majd> into place being renaming it?
[12:03] <looksaus> cp it, keep both backups
[12:03] <OneTruth> Ubuntu_noob: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#Remote_Desktop
[12:03] <looksaus> pressing ctrl-alt-backspace will restart your xserver
[12:04] <looksaus> (logging out first is a good idea)
[12:04] <majd> ok, here's what i did, made a backup of the old xorg, and the one that i'm using now
[12:04] <majd> then i deleted xorg.conf and renamed the old one to just xorg.conf
[12:04] <looksaus> well, you did it in two steps, but hey, the result is the same
[12:05] <looksaus> ok, now on to logging out, ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:05] <looksaus> to reload your old config
[12:05] <looksaus> and login again
[12:05] <mapal> all:ahojte jej tu niekto cz alebo sk?
[12:05] <mapal> asi nik
[12:05] <looksaus> hope to see you back here soon :)
[12:05] <mapal> :-|
[12:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !cz
[12:05] <Jack_Sparrow> guessing
[12:05] <Ych> is there a way to list all the channels here?
[12:06] <majd> i have a two computer setup (imac and linux)
[12:06] <majd> i'm chatting on my imac
[12:06] <looksaus> majd, ah, perfect
[12:06] <looksaus> I'm typing this from an iBook, actually
[12:06] <majd> k, ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't do anything visually
[12:06] <majd> cool :)
[12:06] <looksaus> (converted to ubuntu of course)
[12:06] <majd> i have a macbook too
[12:06] <majd> what's wrong with osx?
[12:07] <looksaus> majd, I happen to like free software :)
[12:07] <majd> lo
[12:07] <majd> heh
[12:07] <majd> i don't mind paying <40-50 bucks for software
[12:07] <looksaus> me neither
[12:07] <looksaus> but only for free software
[12:07] <gnomefreak> guys can you try to stay on topic please
[12:07] <xeh> you can get everything for free on the internetz
[12:07] <micahcowan> is ubotu broken?
[12:07] <micahcowan> !ubotu
[12:07] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:07] <gnomefreak> micahcowan: very
[12:08] <Ubuntu_noob> lol
[12:08] <leagris> onsoir
[12:08] <OneTruth> what is the user that runs CGI scripts in ubuntu
[12:08] <looksaus> majd, but you say ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't do anything?
[12:08] <majd> looksaus, i just logged out and in
[12:08] <majd> nothing changed
[12:08] <Lattyware> OK, after failure last time, does anyone know of a way to confine full-screen aps to one moniter in a dual screen setup?
[12:08] <looksaus> no, of course not
[12:08] <Lattyware> Using twinview
[12:08] <looksaus> you could also log out again
[12:08] <looksaus> then in a terminal type
[12:08] <looksaus> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:09] <looksaus> but ctrl-alt-backspace should really kill your x server for you
[12:09] <maccam94> are LTS versions only going to be RELEASED every 18 months or are they just going to be SUPPORTED for 18 months?
[12:09] <majd> wow
[12:09] <looksaus> or there is something very wrong with your keyboard settings
[12:09] <majd> ok, not it put me in text mode
[12:09] <majd> looksaus, umm
[12:09] <majd> i'm using synergy
[12:09] <looksaus> majd, you didn't do this from a graphical terminal, did you?
[12:09] <majd> k, now how do i switch to GUI mode?
[12:10] <majd> yeah i did
[12:10] <majd> grr i'm confused
[12:10] <Ubuntu_noob> wat is better Linux Red Hat or Ubuntu>
[12:10] <Ubuntu_noob> >?
[12:10] <looksaus> np, we'll get this back up and running
[12:10] <majd> k
[12:10] <looksaus> what does it complain about right now?
[12:10] <Lattyware> Ubuntu_noob: I'd say Ubuntu, but you are in #ubuntu, so there may be a bias :P
[12:10] <majd> it's not complaining at all
[12:10] <mikolan> Hmm, how do I stop ubuntu from beeping the speaker in my computer case? It's quite annoying :P
[12:10] <txx2> Anyone know what kernel version (exact) of edgy eft is? I need to know because I messed up my xorg.conf file and ideally, the whole thing so I can get into ubuntu 6.10 again
[12:11] <looksaus> ok, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:11] <cowmilk> My terminal has been at "Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3) ..." for 16 minutes now.
[12:11] <looksaus> from the terminal you're in
[12:11] <cowmilk> wha is wrong?
[12:11] <looksaus> cowmilk, that doesn't look healthy
[12:11] <Lattyware> OK, after failure last time, does anyone know of a way to confine full-screen aps to one moniter in a dual screen setup? (Using Twinview)
[12:11] <greg_> flashplugin-nonfree doesn't work at all in 64 bit, right?
[12:11] <Ych> my father uses redhat, but from using that i think i prefer my ub8untu
[12:11] <micahcowan> mikolan: it's a setting in your terminal emulator
[12:11] <maccam94> Ubuntu_noob: Red Hat costs money, Ubuntu doesn't. It is better to compare to Fedora Core, but I haven't used it. Also, since this is #ubuntu i'd say ubuntu. especially if you're a linux noob.
[12:11] <majd> k
[12:11] <majd> back in GUI
[12:11] <cowmilk> looksaus: i trried directly downloading the flashplug from adobe's site ,but it's also stalled
[12:11] <majd> haha
[12:11] <micahcowan> mikolan, are you using gnome-terminal?
[12:11] <Ubuntu_noob> woot i think i got a sucessful install this time!
[12:11] <majd> glxgears is fast and smooth;
[12:11] <majd> :-D
[12:11] <looksaus> majd, as promised :)
[12:12] <majd> thanks a lot
[12:12] <mikolan> yup gnoem terminal
[12:12] <mikolan> gnome*
[12:12] <looksaus> but what you probably should do now, to avoid future confusion
[12:12] <DoppelGanger> wwwersmem elony
[12:12] <micahcowan> mikolan, go into Edit -> Current Profile, go to the General tab and uncheck "Terminal Bell"
[12:13] <looksaus> majd, you could leave it like this
[12:13] <majd> k
[12:13] <looksaus> but if I were you, I would at least kick the flgrx stuff off
[12:13] <looksaus> and if you feel courageaous, reconfigure the x server afterward
[12:13] <looksaus> s
[12:13] <mikolan> thanks micahcowan that stopped the terminal from beeping :) now if I could stop other programs from doing it too thta would be great :)
[12:13] <angel> hey...
[12:14] <angel> Does anyoun know how to login as root?
[12:14] <looksaus> to avoid a confused package manager "updating" your settings back to these wrong ones
[12:14] <greg_> I think I am going to switch to 32 bit kernel instead of 64....anyway to do that without reinstalling?  no, right?
[12:14] <looksaus> angel, sudo su -
[12:14] <DoppelGanger> DoppelGanger:
[12:14] <mikolan> for example firefox beeps when it cant find any search results and you continue to input text
[12:14] <looksaus> angel, but that's very probably what you DON't WANT
[12:14] <Ubuntu_noob> if you plug a PS2 mouse into the computer after it is boote with ubuntu can you use it or do i need to reboot it again?
[12:14] <Lattyware> mikolan: Just rip of your case, and destroy the little beeper.
[12:14] <ompaul> angel, you don't you use sudo for the work have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo to explain all about it
[12:14] <DoppelGanger> melo
[12:14] <Lattyware> :P
[12:14] <F0LL0W3R> heey how can i install java virtual machine  ?
[12:15] <angel> thanx ;)
[12:15] <mikolan> heh I catually did that with my old computer
[12:15] <looksaus> angel, DON't DO IT
[12:15] <mikolan> some bug in windows made it beep all the time
[12:15] <looksaus> what do you want to accomplish?
 for virtual machines i usually use VMWare
[12:15] <looksaus> angel, ?
[12:15] <Lattyware> so... anyone had any brainwaves?
[12:15] <F0LL0W3R> ubuntu_noob i mean JVM not VM ware lol
[12:16] <gnomefreak> F0LL0W3R: install sun-java5-bin
[12:16] <Crazed> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[12:16] <F0LL0W3R> gnomefreak did that and still have the error message
[12:16] <looksaus> because your question show me you don't entirely understand the implications of what you're trying to do
[12:16] <npster> !webcam
[12:16] <npster> !webcam
[12:16] <crogue5> bot is dead
[12:16] <npster> argh...
[12:16] <looksaus> and you can severely damage your system that way, if you don't watch out very carefully
[12:17] <F0LL0W3R> gnomefreak i want to open azureus torrent client and installed sun-java5
[12:17] <cowmilk> can anyone try downloading the tar.gz from http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash. coz it stalls for me
[12:17] <mikolan> heh fixed the beep thing :)
[12:17] <cowmilk> if any of u is successful, please send that tarball to me
[12:18] <cowmilk> thank you!!!
[12:18] <micahcowan> looksaus, sudo su - isn't the right command, anyway.
[12:18] <looksaus> micahcowan, it will work...
[12:18] <Lattyware> I am running two moniters from one card using Twinview. The problem is that full screen apps go accross both and sit in the middle, which is very annoying, and sometimes unusable (think UT2004). Is there a way to confine fullscreen to only my right moniter, for example?
[12:18] <F0LL0W3R> oke guys thx its workin now :D
[12:18] <micahcowan> looksaus, huh! I'm surprised Ubuntu even /has/ a su command by default.
[12:18] <looksaus> cowmilk, you shouldn't be running that kind of stuff
[12:19] <looksaus> use packages
[12:19] <cowmilk> looksaus: why not?
[12:19] <maccam94> micahcowan: of course it does
[12:19] <cowmilk> looksaus: i was tryying the package
[12:19] <looksaus> yes, stick to that
[12:19] <micahcowan> maccam94, why should it, since there's no root password, and sudo -i is quicker?
[12:19] <cowmilk> looksaus: but as i said, "Setting up flashplugin-nonfree (<IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu3) ..." has been on my screen for 23 minutes now
[12:19] <looksaus> kill it
[12:19] <Ubuntu_noob> wat is used for irc in ubuntu?
[12:19] <looksaus> ctrl-c
[12:19] <mcphail> micahcowan: you can change to _any_ user with su
[12:19] <cowmilk> looksaus: killed
[12:19] <micahcowan> likewise with sudo...
[12:19] <maccam94> micahcowan: what does sudo -i do?
[12:19] <cowmilk> now what?
[12:20] <looksaus> now look what apt says
[12:20] <micahcowan> maccam94, equiv of sudo su -
[12:20] <looksaus> try again
[12:20] <thybo> why won't kafeine read my mp3's and avis :'(?
[12:20] <micahcowan> (interactive login shell)
[12:20] <mwe> cowmilk: new flash movies don't work with it anyway because it's old
[12:20] <looksaus> sudo apt-get install the thing
[12:20] <looksaus> !mp3
[12:20] <thybo> yes mp3!!!
[12:20] <cowmilk> mwe, do you have flash?
[12:20] <looksaus> oh, damn, ubotu is dead
[12:20] <maccam94> micahcowan: well some people do set a password for root, though it's not a good idea. and sudo su is easier to type than reaching for the - imho
[12:20] <thybo> lol
[12:20] <thybo> i hope not
[12:20] <Seveas> looksaus, no, just undergoing brain surgery
[12:20] <thybo> lived it until now :p
[12:20] <cowmilk> looksaus:  this is the message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20333
[12:20] <Ych> quick
[12:21] <mwe> cowmilk: yeah. but it only works with old movies
[12:21] <micahcowan> maccam94, fair enough.
[12:21] <Ych> get out the jumper cables
[12:21] <Ych> hes dead!!!
[12:21] <looksaus> Seveas, that's a reassuring thought :)
[12:21] <mwe> cowmilk: or rather it doesn't if it's too new
[12:21] <Ubuntu_noob> Will win-amp work on Ubuntu
[12:21] <Ubuntu_noob> ?
[12:21] <Seveas> looksaus, currently i'm solving: TypeError: resolve_alias() takes at least 3 arguments (1 given)
[12:21] <Seveas> TypeError: resolve_alias() takes at least 3 arguments (1 given)
[12:21] <cowmilk> can you help me go past the opening page of a site, mwe?
[12:21] <looksaus> Ubuntu_noob, no, but functionaly equivs will do
[12:21] <greg_> Amarok > all :)
[12:21] <mwe> cowmilk: I don't understand
[12:21] <looksaus> Seveas, I know you're doing a good job
[12:22] <thybo> mms is the equivalent ubuntu8noob
[12:22] <looksaus> thanks for that
[12:22] <cowmilk> mwe, check you pm
[12:22] <cowmilk> looksaus:  this is the message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20333
[12:22] <Ubuntu_noob> What would i use to play .mp3 files on Ubuntu?
[12:22] <greg_> Amarok
[12:22] <haasteem> xmms
[12:22] <F0LL0W3R> ubuntu_noob mplayer sudo apt-get install mplayer
[12:22] <looksaus> looking at it, cowmilk, but I really had to talk to Seveas for a sec
[12:22] <xeh> sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:22] <cowmilk> looksaus: ok
[12:22] <xeh> :)
[12:22] <Lattyware> I am running two moniters from one card using Twinview. The problem is that full screen apps go accross both and sit in the middle, which is very annoying, and sometimes unusable (think UT2004). Is there a way to confine fullscreen to only my right moniter, for example?
[12:23] <Ubuntu_noob> F0ll0Wer can i PM you?
[12:23] <looksaus> he's one of the great people behind volunteer ubuntu support, if you didn't know
[12:23] <poningru> !update
[12:23] <micahcowan> F0LL0W3R, Ubuntu_noob, mplayer would hardly be my choice for playing .mp3s...
[12:23] <F0LL0W3R> ubuntu_noob ya sure
[12:23] <cowmilk> looksaus: yes i know
[12:23] <micahcowan> xmms, rhythmbox, ...
[12:23] <looksaus> cowmilk: sudo apt-get -f install ?
[12:24] <F0LL0W3R> micahcowan yea but its the best ^_^
[12:24] <micahcowan> for playing music playlists?
[12:24] <Ubuntu_noob> How would i get my box with Ubuntu to b in my network accessible by my P4 HT machine?
[12:25] <looksaus> Ubuntu_noob, use ssh
[12:25] <HeXiOn> hello again :)
[12:25] <Ubuntu_noob> Some help pl3ease?
[12:25] <looksaus> cowmilk, what does it say?
[12:25] <Crooper> i like xmms... even to play avi files
[12:26] <HeXiOn> I have a mouse logitech mx700 running on port PS2. I want to change it to port USB (it can be plugged in twice). Do I have to do any changes to xorg.conf to make it work??? or just switch it???
[12:26] <cowmilk> looksaus: i didn't do that
[12:26] <cowmilk> i did  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree again
[12:26] <looksaus> and?
[12:26] <[Kork] > HeXiOn, remove the ps2
[12:26] <cowmilk> then i did,  sudo update-flashplugin. it's stalling heer
[12:26] <cowmilk> here
[12:26] <[Kork] > HeXiOn, just plug in the usb and the power
[12:26] <JackONeill> can I use chown to tell me what number (like 0777 for example) is applied?
[12:26] <looksaus> sudo update-fleshplugin?
[12:27] <JackONeill> i.e. like 'attrib' would return what attributes are set
[12:27] <xeh> telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl
[12:27] <JackONeill> can chmod do the same?
[12:27] <looksaus> you mean you are fiddling with an installer script of some kind?
[12:27] <HeXiOn> [Kork]  remove ps2? do u reffer on any line on xorg.conf?
[12:27] <[Kork] > HeXiOn, remove the cable
[12:27] <looksaus> I'm sorry, but you're on your own then
[12:27] <poningru> Jack_Sparrow: you can do ls -la
[12:27] <HeXiOn> [Kork] , ok thanks :)
[12:27] <Boj> I'm trying to run Scorched3d, however I get an error. 'Failed to set the video mode, couldn't find matching GLX visual'
[12:27] <looksaus> you're polluting your system that way
[12:27] <OneTruth> what user do i need to grant permissions to for CGI scripts
[12:27] <cowmilk> looksaus: yes coz of http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/DapperGuide#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[12:27] <Ubuntu_noob> is there a guide to SSH?
[12:28] <JackONeill> When using 'attrib' on dos, it will tell me the attributes of a certain file - can chmod do the same?
[12:28] <[Kork] > HeXiOn, i got a mx 700 with keyboard and the ps/2 isn't plugged -> mouse runs on usb
[12:28] <Jack_Sparrow> poningru:  What?
[12:28] <looksaus> Ubuntu_noob, start by searching for the right packages
[12:28] <mopflite> JackONeill: ttbomk no
[12:28] <poningru> Jack_Sparrow: err sorry wrong person
[12:28] <looksaus> and use google
[12:28] <JackONeill> mopflite, WHAT!?
[12:28] <Ubuntu_noob> Right Packages?
[12:28] <Jack_Sparrow> np about time I woke up.. :)
[12:28] <looksaus> Ubuntu_noob, the ssh packages
[12:29] <[Kork] > guys, does anyone know how to remove the java bar in java applets?
[12:29] <looksaus> look for them in your package manager
[12:29] <looksaus> on the command line, for example, you would do:
[12:29] <looksaus> apt-cache search ssh
[12:29] <cica> hi guys... any VPN guru's online?
[12:29] <looksaus> and see what that gives
[12:29] <cica> thats colud advise on a problem... please :-)
[12:29] <looksaus> then install the packages you think you need for setting up an ssh connection between these two machines of yours
[12:30] <mopflite> cica: I know a little about getting a juniper ssl vpn running on dapper with dapper as the client - there's fairly specialised though really
[12:30] <looksaus> cica, only a tiny chence I can help you
[12:30] <looksaus> what is your problem?
[12:30] <^NaTacHa^> what kernel is the latest ubuntu using ?
[12:30] <Ubuntu_noob> ok is ther more than 1 way for networking ubuntu with windows or is that the only way?
[12:31] <mwe> ^NaTacHa^: stable?
[12:31] <mopflite> Ubuntu_noob: there are several ways
[12:31] <looksaus> Ubuntu_noob, you were asking for
[12:31] <mopflite> using samba is perhaps the most common
[12:31] <mwe> ^NaTacHa^: 2.6.15
[12:31] <JackONeill> how would I use chmod to set all files (recursively) to 0777 mode?!
[12:31] <mwe> JackONeill: be careful with that
[12:31] <Miek> use -R
[12:31] <JackONeill> mwe... not ALL files lol
[12:31] <JackONeill> just in this dir of mine
[12:31] <mwe> JackONeill: chmod -R 777 path/to/dir
[12:32] <JackONeill> right
[12:32] <cica> mopflite & looksaus: I get the following error when I run vpnclient connect {VPN}: Could not attach to driver. Is kernel module loaded? The application was unable to communicate with the VPN sub-system.
[12:32] <looksaus> Ubuntu_noob, it really depends on what you want to do
[12:32] <Ubuntu_noob> Ok well if i install VNC can someone help me with the networking?
[12:32] <looksaus> cica, _what_ kind of vpn?
[12:32] <sprink> man I like ubuntu I just wish they wouldn't dump it down sooo much that its not pleasent for more experienced users
[12:32] <sprink> dumb*
[12:32] <mopflite> sprink: I hear that complaint a bit, but I'm not sure it's valid
[12:33] <cica> looksaus: what do you mean by "kind"?
[12:33] <mopflite> it's perhaps in some ways more a gnome thing than an ubuntu thing
[12:33] <Ubuntu_noob> ok i have an airlink wireless card PCI if i shut down and install it will it work?
[12:33] <sprink> mopflite. its very valid
[12:33] <cica> looksaus: Cisco ?
[12:33] <mopflite> sprink: what functionality exactly are you missing?
[12:33] <ravenous> has anyone had problems with gtkpod claiming the file are copied, over, i sync and it takes forever to 'copy', but when you try on the ipod nothing is there?
[12:33] <^NaTacHa^> anyone using a a8n-VM CSM mobo here ?
[12:34] <sprink> mopflite. boot loader options during installation, window manager options during installation, x server options
[12:34] <looksaus> cica, sorry, won't be able to help you with that
[12:34] <peace-keeper> what package must i install to get the "strings" utility ?
[12:34] <Boj> Could someone take a look at this error message I get when trying to play Scorched3d. Its quite long so just say you're willing to help and i'll pm it to you. Thankyou
[12:34] <mwe> sprink: it's probably a good direction for the average windows user though
[12:34] <cica> cool... thanks Looksaus
[12:34] <sprink> mopflite. what if I wanted to use lilo. or xfree86, or I didn't want to install a boot loader?
[12:34] <looksaus> sprink, why not use debian then?
[12:35] <looksaus> or an expert mode install of the alternative cd?
[12:35] <cica> Any other VPN dudes out there that can help with what looks like a Driver problem? ? ?
[12:35] <sprink> well.. I am a old debian user.. i'm just giving ubuntu a try
[12:35] <sprink> i'v been using debian for years.. just trying something new for a change
[12:35] <erUSUL> sprink: not very different ubuntu is debian for the lazy ;)
[12:35] <sprink> I wish debian had the support that ubuntu has :(
[12:36] <elvis2006> ffffff
[12:36] <looksaus> sprink, that is a problem of critical mass
[12:36] <sprink> and the routine updates
[12:36] <looksaus> just today, I helped out a user who didn't know
[12:36] <looksaus> what an ethernet card was
[12:36] <looksaus> who didn't know that he had one in his computer
[12:37] <agliodbs> hey, why does ubuntu have two booths at Linux World Expo?
[12:37] <looksaus> who didn't know that he could unplug his ethernet cable from his evil usb ethernet adapter
[12:37] <maccam94> will edgy be LTS or will the next LTS be dapper+3 ?
[12:37] <sprink> agliodbs. one is for gnome build the other is for kde
[12:37] <looksaus> and plug it into the computer direcltly
[12:37] <cica> where is Bittorrent ran from?
[12:37] <looksaus> sprink, but he did manage to install ubuntu
[12:37] <agliodbs> sprink: is that a joke?
[12:37] <sprink> looksaus. thats good
[12:37] <sprink> agliodbs. no.
[12:38] <agliodbs> one's a .org and the other is commercial
[12:38] <mwe> what's LTS?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> maccam94: edgy will not be LTS there is no version that is gonna be LTS except dapper atm
[12:38] <looksaus> mwe, Long Time Support
[12:38] <gnomefreak> mwe: long term support
[12:38] <looksaus> 3 years desktop, 5 years server
[12:38] <mwe> oh
[12:38] <sprink> agliodbs. why did you ask if you already knew the answer?
[12:38] <k1gwb> I though LTS was Linux Terminal Server :-P
[12:38] <sanmarcos> cica, anywhere
[12:39] <agliodbs> sprink: no, I mean why does ubuntu have both a .org and a commercial booth?
[12:39] <cica> as in: ./ bittorrent &
[12:39] <pirast> where are the ubuntu releasenotes stored on an ubuntu installation?
[12:39] <Ubuntu_noob> Thats cool Samba downloads the package when u activate it in Ubuntu
[12:39] <sprink> agliodbs. I didn't know they did
[12:39] <outonbond> ls
[12:39] <cica> sanmarcos: do I need to run it as root using ./bittorrent & ?
[12:39] <maccam94> gnomefreak: The Ubuntu team releases a fresh Ubuntu every six months. It includes the latest kernel, X, Gnome and other key applications, and is supported with security updates for 18 months. --ubuntu.com
[12:39] <sanmarcos> cica, never run anything as root
[12:40] <gnomefreak> maccam94: yes i know this
[12:40] <cica> sanmarcos:  sorrie... newbie. Can you please further advise?
[12:40] <maccam94> gnomefreak: so you're sure edgy eft will not be LTS? it sounds kind of vague, but it seems to say every new version will have LTS
[12:40] <gnomefreak> maccam94: you asked about LTS after dapper and there are no plans for it
[12:40] <sanmarcos> cica, never run anything as root
[12:40] <Boj> Can someone help me with this error when trying to run scorched3d?
[12:40] <wwallace_lap> Piolon: que onda?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> maccam94: yes i am
[12:40] <muaddib> Also can anyone recommend a PCIx IDE controller that is supported under linux
[12:40] <gnomefreak> maccam94: i am very sure of it
[12:40] <maccam94> gnomefreak: ok, thanks for the info
[12:40] <peace-keeper> plz how i get the "strings" command, in what package could that be ?
[12:40] <looksaus> ah, ubotu , welcome back!
[12:40] <cica> sanmarcos: yes I've got that bit...
[12:41] <looksaus> peace-keeper, apt-cache search strings
[12:41] <cica> sanmarcos: as normal user then is it ./bittorrent & ?
[12:41] <sanmarcos> cica, no need for &, that is if you want to send the client into the background
[12:41] <looksaus> peace-keeper, sorry, that gives you quite a bit of packages
[12:41] <gnomefreak> looksaus: hes still down
[12:41] <sanmarcos> cica, you can bring it back with fg, but oyu dont want that with a bt client
[12:42] <looksaus> gnomefreak, oh, pity
[12:42] <peace-keeper> yeah, i dont think there is any package that contains that
[12:42] <cica> sanmarcos: why not with a bt client ?
[12:42] <sanmarcos> cica, because it is an interactive app
[12:42] <Seveas> looksaus, gnomefreak: he's working again, rest assured ;)
[12:42] <sanmarcos> cica, you dont want gui or interactive apps in the background
[12:42] <gnomefreak> i see
[12:43] <stinerman> i've got strings on my box, but don't know how i got it :-)
[12:43] <phoenix_> hi
[12:43] <gnomefreak> Seveas: he was lagging thats all it was ty
[12:43] <cica> sanmarcos: I see... Why should I not run anything as root btw?
[12:43] <peace-keeper> strings is a standard gnu utility.. quite amazing that ubuntu doesnt have it
[12:43] <nny_> ok hitting a wall here.. i am tyring to follow the nvidia how to, and no matter what i do, apt wants to install nvidia-kernel-common...
[12:43] <Seveas> peace-keeper, it's in the binutils package
[12:43] <phoenix_> who wants to help a *nix newb!!! :D
[12:43] <peace-keeper> ah
[12:43] <nny_> even for none graphics related packages
[12:43] <nny_> help!
[12:43] <BHSPitMonkey> does ANYONE know when the repos will get an up-to-date firefox??
[12:43] <wwallace_lap> is ubuntu better than kanotix?
[12:43] <Seveas> BHSPitMonkey, when it's finished...
[12:43] <maccam94> gnomefreak: ah so LTS is actually longer than 18 months...? http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases seems to make it pretty clear that every release will have 18 months of support
[12:44] <Seveas> BHSPitMonkey, it's not like the developers aren't doing anything...
[12:44] <looksaus> phoenix_, ask, don't ask to ask
[12:44] <gnomefreak> maccam94: 3 years desktop 5 years server
[12:44] <mwe> I'm building a minimal rescue system for a usb pen. wouldn't it make sense to no include cron?
[12:44] <sanmarcos> cica, security risks
[12:44] <peace-keeper> thx seveas
[12:44] <bbrazil> mwe: cron wouldn't be needed
[12:44] <looksaus> Seveas, merci hee maat
[12:44] <sanmarcos> cica, if the app you are running is compromised, then they have root access. Then you are pretty much in the oven, hosed, you might as well pack it in
[12:44] <cica> sanmarcos: I see :-). Advise taken
[12:44] <mwe> bbrazil: that's what I thought
[12:44] <bbrazil> mwe: you can probably skimp on syslogd too
[12:44] <gnomefreak> BHSPitMonkey: firefox <IP_ADDRESS> will be in dapper dapper might not get 2.0 even after release
[12:44] <maccam94> gnomefreak: ah ok. besides the longer support term are there any other differences?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:45] <mwe> bbrazil: yes
[12:45] <gnomefreak> maccam94: just updatesopatches
[12:45] <maccam94> gnomefreak: (between LTS and regular)
[12:45] <nny_> anyone know how to fix the forementioned problem i have?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> maccam94: join #ubuntu-offtopic for this please
[12:45] <BHSPitMonkey> gnomefreak, well <IP_ADDRESS> crashes for me all the time.
[12:45] <tuxtux> notte
[12:45] <eimajenthat>  hi, can I hotswap my pcmcia wireless card in xubuntu?
[12:45] <cica> sanmarcos: so to start bttorrent: /usr/share/bittorrent ?
[12:45] <Piolon> help me please
[12:45] <BHSPitMonkey> firefox's people told me I need to update
[12:45] <Piolon> http://vhcs.net/new/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6235&forum=21
[12:45] <gnomefreak> BHSPitMonkey: on what? when doing what?
[12:46] <BHSPitMonkey> flash video.
[12:46] <BHSPitMonkey> the videos themselves work
[12:46] <sahasrara> full room
[12:46] <gnomefreak> BHSPitMonkey: firefox people dont know this is ubuntu/firefox you are running
[12:46] <eternaljoy> how can I get poker games to run on Ubuntu? they are all poker.exe type files, and WINE doesnt run them! any ideas anyone?
[12:46] <Piolon> help with VHCS2 in Ubuntu please ???
[12:46] <BHSPitMonkey> gnomefreak, yeah, they do.
[12:46] <gnomefreak> BHSPitMonkey: you need a working flash polugin
[12:46] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: any ideas?
[12:46] <stinerman> eternaljoy: wine isn't perfect by a long shot
[12:46] <sanmarcos> cica, i suggets checking out help.ubunut.com
[12:46] <phoenix_> fair enough, i'm setting up a webserver for the first time. everyone says a LAMP server is the best way to go. i'm pretty good with mac and pc but a total newb at *nix. i think what i need to do is use the terminal to change a few permissions to get this php program i want to run working. but i'm assuming it's protected for a reason so i might be doing something wrong
[12:46] <thybo> how do you clean synaptic cache?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: no
[12:47] <nny_> hello.. again, apt is stuck on trying to install a package i don't want, how do i 86 it?
[12:47] <stinerman> might want to use the winehq packages rather than what is in universe
[12:47] <cica> sanmarcos: yeah you probably right. thanks
[12:47] <BHSPitMonkey> gnomefreak, the flash videos work flawlessly, but for some reason, the browser will freeze (Seemingly with no trigger) when a page is open that contains a video
[12:47] <gnomefreak> BHSPitMonkey: ubuntu changes firefox
[12:47] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm aware of ubuntu's firefox patch.
[12:47] <zephyer> hi gotta quick question on xerver
[12:47] <eimajenthat> How do I hotswap my pcmcia wireless card in ubuntu or xubuntu?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> BHSPitMonkey: sounds more like a flash issue than firefox issue
[12:47] <zephyer> xserver
[12:47] <mwe> is ubuntu-minimal an absolute minimal functional system?
[12:47] <Ych> what does ubuntu do with firefox?
[12:48] <mwe> Ych: do with it?
[12:48] <sahasrara> i could've sworn this room only had one other person in it last night
[12:48] <BHSPitMonkey> Ych, among other things, it disables internal updates...
[12:48] <gnomefreak> mwe: yeah kind of
[12:48] <Ych> hmm
[12:48] <zephyer> i give the command startx n and i get fatal IO error 104
[12:48] <Ych> why?
[12:48] <Piolon> Help with MX Record please
[12:48] <BHSPitMonkey> Ych, so that can all be managed with apt.
[12:48] <Ych> oh ok
[12:49] <stinerman> mwe: minimal is a meta-package that specifies what a "minimal" ubuntu system should have
[12:49] <nny_> sigh anyone?
[12:49] <stinerman> it isn't necessary to keep though
[12:49] <BHSPitMonkey> gnomefreak, so, did you say earlier there's some principle behind staying at <IP_ADDRESS>? it's not even a time issue?
[12:49] <nny_> my laptop hs been running only windows for a week
[12:49] <mwe> stinerman: Yeah I figured. it's includes at lot of non essential stuff though
[12:49] <gnomefreak> BHSPitMonkey: btw there are alot of flash issues im seeing
[12:49] <peace-keeper> aaahhhh where is my lynx... ubuntu forgets to install the most important packages
[12:49] <BHSPitMonkey> gnomefreak, never had problems before <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:49] <mwe> stinerman: vim wpasupplicant and what not
[12:49] <wims> whats the name of the util that outputs mouse movement and button clicking and so on ?
[12:50] <BHSPitMonkey> peace-keeper, apt-get isn't that hard to use :)
[12:50] <gnomefreak> BHSPitMonkey: if its added to dapper it will be a while they just decided to put 2.0 in edgy so dont expect to see ff 2.0 in dapper for a while
[12:50] <peace-keeper> :D
[12:50] <stinerman> mwe: wpasupplicant?  i wouldn't think so
[12:50] <looksaus> peace-keeper, you actually use lynx?
[12:50] <sahasrara> can i get online with an ethernet card, using dialup?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> oh and its not installing in edgy atm ;)
[12:50] <BHSPitMonkey> gnomefreak, so they're going to ignore <IP_ADDRESS>?
[12:50] <mwe> stinerman: it does. apt-cache show ubuntu-minimal and you'll see
[12:50] <Piolon> Help with VHCS 2??
[12:51] <asshead> how can i fix being unable to start an x window????? I can login to $
[12:51] <looksaus> I rather like "links", but "lynx"
[12:51] <stinerman> mwe: correct ... wow
[12:51] <cica> sanmarcos: do you know much about Cisco VPN's with Ubuntu ?
[12:51] <looksaus> cica, I could try to look up a few things
[12:51] <stinerman> nny: usually apt will install things for a good reason; why are you so sure you don't need it?
[12:51] <jshadow> wims: xev
[12:51] <asshead> i cant get ubuntu to give startx
[12:51] <asshead> i get errors
[12:51] <stinerman> nny_: usually apt will install things for a good reason; why are you so sure you don't need it?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> BHSPitMonkey: there was talk on that and i am assuming they are either waiting or not gonna add it do to issues
[12:51] <gnomefreak> asshead: change your nick
[12:52] <looksaus> and see if that gets us somewhere
[12:52] <nny_> stinerman no it doesnt
[12:52] <BHSPitMonkey> agreed ^
[12:52] <asshead> I transfered my hard drive to a new system
[12:52] <looksaus> but not for too long I'm afraid
[12:52] <nny_> stinerman thats a useless response
[12:52] <peace-keeper> yeah i use lynx for simple things such as "Readme.htm"
[12:52] <peace-keeper> lynx is good
[12:52] <wims> jshadow,  thanks
[12:52] <jshadow> no prob
[12:52] <gnomefreak> .unop
[12:52] <nny_> stinerman i am following a howto on ubuntu wiki, and the first thing it says is to 86 all nvidia stuff
[12:52] <nny_> !nvidia
[12:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:53] <Ubuntu_noob> !airlink wireless
[12:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about airlink wireless - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:53] <sahasrara> if i plan to get a router to use as a firewall later, shouldn't i avoid buying an external modem right now?
[12:53] <jshadow> Anyone using via drivers on edgy? I see in malone it's pretty screwed up but I was curious if anyone has gotten it going
[12:53] <sanmarcos> cica, no
[12:53] <gnomefreak> jshadow: try asking in #ubuntu+1
[12:54] <sahasrara> i guess either way i'm gonna spend the same money
[12:54] <sahasrara> is there a networking ubuntu room?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> edgy questions dont belong in this channel
[12:54] <jshadow> ah, I was trying edgy and found no one there :p
[12:54] <wjpx> Hi - I installed 6.06 lts about a month ago and it is terriffic - best desktop yet - I noticed there is a new version <IP_ADDRESS> available - do the update system automatically update to that version or do I have to perform some type of manual update
[12:54] <Ubuntu_noob> !networking
[12:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about networking - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:54] <stinerman> nny_: i don't have an nvidia card so i might not be too helpful;  are you using the driver from the repos or from the nvidia website?
[12:54] <Ubuntu_noob> !wifi
[12:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:54] <OneTruth> sahasrara: what are you looking for?
[12:54] <cica> looksaus: I'm not entirely sure it's a VPN issue as the error I'm getting is: Privilege Separation: unable to drop privileges.
[12:54] <cica> The application was unable to communicate with the VPN sub-system.
[12:55] <poidog> i cant get ubuntu to give startx i get errors
[12:55] <looksaus> cica, I found some useful info
[12:55] <sahasrara> i'm just trying to plot out in what order to buy networking equipment for my box, for now i need to decide on a linux compatible modem so i can get kubuntu working
[12:55] <sahasrara> i mean so i can get kubuntu online
[12:55] <looksaus> you have vpnc installed?
[12:55] <OneTruth> sahasrara: why do you need a modem? You are using dial-up?
[12:56] <cica> looksaus: yeah ?
[12:56] <sahasrara> i just realized that down the line i'm gonna want to set up a hardware firewall too.... OneTruth: yes i'm using dialup
[12:56] <Crooper> lock,stock and two smoking barrels... great movie
[12:56] <poidog> any idea where to begin fixing ubuntu to launch into desktop using startx?
[12:56] <wjpx> Anyone ??? - I installed 6.06 lts about a month ago and it is terriffic - best desktop yet - I noticed there is a new version <IP_ADDRESS> available - do the update system automatically update to that version or do I have to perform some type of manual update
[12:56] <dougsko> Crooper: yeah it is
[12:56] <phoenix_> anyone familiar with the LAMP distro
[12:56] <OneTruth> sahasrara: a hardware firewall on Dial-Up?
[12:56] <Crooper> that and snatch
[12:56] <dougsko> phoenix_: i installed the server edition, was that the same thing?
[12:56] <cica> looksaus: where'd you find it?
[12:56] <looksaus> can you post the exact output of sudo vpnc (assuming the connection is already configured in /etc/vpnc.conf)
[12:57] <gnomefreak> wjpx: just sudo apt-get update && sudoa pt-get upgrade
[12:57] <looksaus> cica, sorry, it is in Dutch
[12:57] <Flannel> phoenix_: LAMP isn't a distro
[12:57] <eric__> Hi.  I'm trying to get GnuCash to run on my x86 ubuntu setup.
[12:57] <gnomefreak> spell it the right way though please
[12:57] <OneTruth> sahasrara: I don't know if it exists but I guess you need a firewall that has a built in modem
[12:57] <sahasrara> :) not necessary then? (i don't know anything about networking really)
[12:57] <looksaus> (my native language)
[12:57] <eric__>  I install the package, but no icon appears under Applications add/remove.
[12:57] <looksaus> http://www.vtk.ugent.be/wvs/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu@UGent#vpnc
[12:57] <cica> looksaus: it's not vpnc I'm using :-(
[12:57] <OneTruth> sahasrara: What are you using your computer for?
[12:57] <wjpx> thanks gnomefreak
[12:57] <eric__> Attempts to launch GnuCash via the terminal give me an error: Gtk-Warning **: cannot open display:
[12:57] <looksaus> cica, I know
[12:57] <dougsko> eric__: use synaptic to manage your packages
[12:57] <OneTruth> sahasrara: Just normal desktop usage or is it a serveR?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> !lamp > phoenix_
[12:57] <nny_> gD stupid aptitude
[12:57] <phoenix_> yeah, when you install it is gives you an option to install the LAMP package. it comes with apache, mysql, and php already installed.
[12:57] <poidog> i get the error "no screens found"
[12:57] <looksaus> but this should also be able to connect to this Cisco stuff
[12:57] <nny_> sigh
[12:57] <sahasrara> normal desktop usage
[12:57] <nny_> i ahte this
[12:58] <eric__> Is there a ridiculously simple explanation for why I can't make GnuCash go?
[12:58] <sahasrara> isn't a router good for added security?
[12:58] <nny_> why do i have to have restricte dmodules and kernel common nvidia?? I don't want it. it screws up my video card
[12:58] <nny_> but i can'
[12:58] <OneTruth> sahasrara: then no you don't need a hardware firewall. Linux can handle firewall responsibilities
[12:58] <dougsko> phoenix_: ok, are you having a problem?
[12:58] <Awesome-o2000> my system is running 1000x faster on this motherboard
[12:58] <nny_> t update my kernel without it
[12:58] <phoenix_> tis what i meant gnome, sorry
[12:58] <OneTruth> sahasrara: you just need a Modem
[12:58] <Flannel> phoenix_: yeah, thats the server edition, all it does is pre-install, it'd be the same as installing it yourself, once it'sinstalled, no special instructions or anything.
[12:58] <Awesome-o2000> ubuntu is so cool, I didnt even have to reinstall
[12:58] <cica> looksaus: I can't post the output of that
[12:58] <Awesome-o2000> but wow is the intel mobo better than the via
[12:58] <sahasrara> oh
[12:58] <sahasrara> ok
[12:58] <looksaus> cica, to pastebin.org
[12:58] <looksaus> ...
[12:58] <cica> looksaus: as I ain't using it
[12:59] <Awesome-o2000> its like having a whole new system
[12:59] <looksaus> ah, why not try that?N
[12:59] <stinerman> nny_: yes, restricted modules is required for a kernel upgrade ... just the way it is
[12:59] <poidog> does anyone see my test here?
[12:59] <OneTruth> sahasrara: I beleive ubuntu has a built in firewall
[12:59] <poidog> text
[12:59] <OneTruth> !firewall
[12:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[12:59] <eric__> Little help?
[12:59] <sahasrara> OneTruth: well i read that a dual pc modem was a good way to go
[12:59] <gnomefreak> poidog: yes we see you typing
[12:59] <looksaus> if the other one doesn't work anyway
[12:59] <sahasrara> ubotu: i see
[12:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about i see - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:59] <Awesome-o2000> shorewall eh? ive never messed with it but ive heard its really good
[12:59] <OneTruth> sahasrara: a dual modem?
[12:59] <poidog> awesome any idea how to solve my problem?
[12:59] <nny_> stinerman ok so how do i install the nvidia binary without having the interference from nvidia-kernel-common ?
[12:59] <OneTruth> sahasrara: im not sure what you mean by that
[12:59] <phoenix_> yeah, for starters how do i change permissions to a folder and subfolders
[01:00] <dougsko> phoenix_: chmod
[01:00] <sahasrara> OneTruth: an external ethernet modem
[01:00] <OneTruth> phoenix_:  chmod
[01:00] <cica> looksaus: noooo... batteries gonna die in about 2 mins and I'm nowhere a socket :-(
[01:00] <dougsko> phoenix_: chmod -r is recursive  i think
[01:00] <hbrinkm1> Hi, I just installed Dapper and have problems getting the spdif output to work on my ICH5:
[01:00] <hbrinkm1> root@atlas:/lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386# ac3dec -6 /home/hbr/Desktop/prologe.ac3 5.1 Mode 48.0 KHz 448 kbps Complete Main Audio Service
[01:00] <hbrinkm1> Using PCM device 'plug:surround51'
[01:00] <hbrinkm1> ALSA lib confmisc.c:1107:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'defaults.pcm.surround51.card'
[01:00] <hbrinkm1> ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
[01:00] <hbrinkm1> ALSA lib confmisc.c:242:(snd_func_getenv) error evaluating default
[01:00] <hbrinkm1> ALSA lib conf.c:3493:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_getenv returned error: No such file or directory
[01:00] <hbrinkm1> ALSA lib conf.c:3951:(snd_config_expand) Args evaluate error: No such file or directory
[01:00] <OneTruth> sahasrara: Oh, im not sure there. I've never used a modem with ubuntu before so I dont know what the availabilty of drivers are
[01:00] <hbrinkm1> ALSA lib pcm.c:2102:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround51
[01:00] <hbrinkm1> snd_pcm_open: No such file or directory
[01:00] <looksaus> aiaiaiaiaiai, Puerto rico
[01:00] <hbrinkm1> Output open failed
[01:00] <hbrinkm1> Any clue?
[01:00] <sahasrara> i gotta brb pizza's here
[01:00] <_andrej_> hi
[01:00] <OneTruth> hbrinkm1:  Stop it
[01:00] <nny_> hbrinkm1 noob, stop spamming
[01:00] <Flannel> !paste > hbrinkm1
[01:00] <looksaus> hbrinkm1, please use pastebin.org
[01:00] <sahasrara> OneTruth: thank you, bbl
[01:00] <cica> looksaus: thanks for trying to help out with this... by the way where would you advise I look and I'll try again
[01:00] <eimajenthat> my wireless card is only sometimes recognized at boot.  How do I tell the system it's there after I'm already booted?
[01:01] <OneTruth> sahasrara: external and internal will have the same quality. You just need to find one that is supported in ubuntu
[01:01] <nny_> bad enough this channel is so crowded it's hard to get a response in here
[01:01] <OneTruth> sahasrara: Np
[01:01] <phoenix_> thanks, i did that through the terminal but then i check the file using the GUI and it still shows up as protected
[01:01] <looksaus> cica, this information in Dutch is really nice
[01:01] <poidog> how do i reconfigure x from z command prompt to detect a new video card?
[01:01] <Walzmyn> Anybody know how kuickshow is packaged on the ubuntu repos?
[01:01] <dougsko> eimajenthat: do a ifconfig -a to see it, then ifconfig ath0 up to bring it up
[01:01] <looksaus> but that won't help you a lot, won't it
[01:01] <cica> looksaus: is there no English version?
[01:01] <looksaus> nope
[01:01] <dougsko> eimajenthat: if ath0 is th name of your interface
[01:01] <looksaus> looking for something
[01:01] <Flannel> Walzmyn: why shouldn't it be?
[01:01] <NemesisUK> poidog, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:02] <stinerman> nny_: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8762.html should help
[01:02] <looksaus> but it should be quite simple: fill out this /etc/vpnc.conf config
[01:02] <Walzmyn> flannel i can't find it. I was asking if anybody knew if it was packaged inside something else
[01:02] <looksaus> then use sudo vpnc to start
[01:02] <stinerman> nny_: i'm not sure otherwise as nvidia isn't my expertise
[01:02] <looksaus> and sudo vpnc-disconnect to stop
[01:02] <dougsko> eimajenthat: if ifconfig -a doesnt show your wireless interface, you probly need to modprobe the driver
[01:02] <Flannel> Walzmyn: it's under that name, um, might be in universe, lets check
[01:02] <dougsko> eimajenthat: google that
[01:02] <Flannel> !info kuickshow
[01:02] <ubotu> Package kuickshow does not exist in dapper
[01:02] <cica> looksaus: ok... I'll try that. cheers mare
[01:02] <JackONeill> will "user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000" on my fat32 mean everyone has write/read access?
[01:02] <thybo>  anyone got a healthy source i can add to get some codec packs?
[01:03] <looksaus> cica, bye
[01:03] <JackONeill> the wiki isn't clear
[01:03] <Walzmyn> flannel great, universe, multiverse, weirdverse, I do not get these nameing schemes
[01:03] <cica> looksaus: bye bye
[01:03] <eimajenthat> dougsko, ath0 is the name of my interface when it's working.  I do ifconfig -a but it doesn't show me ath0
[01:03] <Flannel> Walzmyn: er, alright.  Maybe it's not in dapper, it's in breezy though, under kuickshow.
[01:03] <Flannel> !tell Walzmyn about repositories
[01:03] <Flannel> Walzmyn: read the first link, it explains them
[01:03] <thybo> ath 0 is for atheros
[01:03] <thybo> its the brand of the wifi chip
[01:03] <Walzmyn> flannel what first link?
[01:03] <dougsko> eimajenthat: ok...that means you need to do a modprobe on the driver
[01:03] <alienseer23> does anybody know of a program for handling wdb (worksdatabase) files?
[01:03] <Flannel> Walzmyn: the one ubotu sent you
[01:03] <thybo> for repositories
[01:03] <Flannel> Walzmyn: components, actually.
[01:04] <JackONeill> will "user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000" on my fat32 mean everyone has write/read access?... the ubuntu wiki wasn't too clear on if it was rw or r
[01:04] <Walzmyn> flannel yeah, I read that, it dind't make sence
[01:04] <Walzmyn> so, why's kquickshow not in breezy?
[01:04] <eimajenthat> dougsko, I tried modprobe ath_pci and modprobe ath0.  The first doesn't give an error, but doesn't show any change.  The second gives not found.
[01:04] <looksaus> alienseer23, subject the files to the "file" utility first
[01:04] <stinerman> Jack0Neill: that ill give everyone rw access, yes
[01:04] <dougsko> so a modprobe -l
[01:04] <Walzmyn> err, not in dapper but in breezy?
[01:04] <poidog> nice thank you so much for your help all hail ubuntu
[01:04] <dougsko> *do
[01:04] <eimajenthat> dougsko, can I modprobe something else?
[01:05] <dougsko> eimajenthat: type, modprobe -l
[01:05] <looksaus> hm, I mean, try to find out the exact version of wdb stuff
[01:05] <alienseer23> looksaus, what or where is the "file" utility?
[01:05] <dougsko> eimajenthat: see what that says
[01:05] <Flannel> Walzmyn: kuickshow is in breezy.  not in dapper, or at least, I can't find it.
[01:05] <dougsko> eimajenthat: does it say anything about aht_pci?
[01:05] <looksaus> alienseer23, I know there is a set of mdb utilities
[01:05] <eimajenthat> dougsko, a lot
[01:05] <looksaus> alienseer23, sorry, I'm not being very clear here
[01:05] <Ubuntu_noob> What is linux useful for
[01:05] <Ubuntu_noob> ?
[01:05] <thybo> lol
[01:05] <Flannel> Ubuntu_noob: anything computers are useful for
[01:05] <thybo> addicting :d
[01:05] <__mikem> killing microsoft
[01:06] <alienseer23> looksaus, it's all good, just tell me how to find them :)
[01:06] <thybo> so about the repositories to get the codecs... anyone?:d
[01:06] <dougsko> eimajenthat: ok, if theres too much info to read, then just do, modprobe -l|grep ath_pci
[01:06] <Stormx2> where is the stuff I set with ulimit stored?
[01:06] <looksaus> alienseer23, are these files confidential?
[01:06] <sahasrara> ok i'm back
[01:06] <looksaus> if not, maybe you could put one online
[01:06] <Ubuntu_noob> on ubuntu can i start a Game server?
[01:06] <looksaus> that would be easier for me
[01:06] <Flannel> Ubuntu_noob: yep
[01:06] <__mikem> !apache
[01:06] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Ubuntu_noob: Avoiding virii, adware, spyware
[01:06] <dougsko> thybo: cant you just use the regular universe, multiverse, etc?
[01:07] <eimajenthat> dougsko, two things
[01:07] <alienseer23> looksaus, no, just a few databases I threw together, I would remake them, but the lists are quite long
[01:07] <eimajenthat> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/madwifi-ng/new_ath_pci.ko
[01:07] <eimajenthat> /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-686/madwifi/ath_pci.ko
[01:07] <thybo> what is universe multiverse etc?
[01:07] <sahasrara> don't you guys think there should be a master database listing all the out-of-the-box modems (or the level of configuring) compatible with ubuntu (and its various flavors)?
[01:07] <looksaus> ok, could you put one online then?
[01:07] <Ubuntu_noob> How would i go about starting a game server?
[01:07] <sahasrara> we could all add to it, or have it as a wiki
[01:07] <alienseer23> looksaus, what "file" utility were you referring to?
[01:07] <dougsko> thybo: hold on, let me find a page
[01:07] <Flannel> Ubuntu_noob: you'd have to decide which game you want to have a server for
[01:07] <thybo> dougsko:thx
[01:07] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara:  having a modem problem?
[01:07] <OneTruth> Ubuntu_noob: depends on the game...
[01:08] <Ubuntu_noob> i know which game
[01:08] <looksaus> alienseer23, just something to determine the exact file type
[01:08] <Flannel> Ubuntu_noob: right, which one is it
[01:08] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: I just got my xircom working
[01:08] <alienseer23> .wdb
[01:08] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: not yet, just saying, from the many hours i've researched the modem thing, that may have helped
[01:08] <looksaus> a diagnostic tool that doesn't really help you forward
[01:08] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: i see
[01:08] <Ubuntu_noob> Call of Duty 2
[01:08] <alienseer23> looksaus, they are .wdb files
[01:08] <garryF> Useful? sure. Useful for loading up those url's you were too afraid to try because you thought they might be windows virus laden. Useful for getting applications open before you forget what you were going to do with it. Useful for learning about your computer than how to just point click, drag, drop and spellcheck.
[01:08] <OneTruth> what is the www user called in ubuntu?
[01:08] <Flannel> OneTruth: www-data
[01:08] <poidog> how would I change screen resolution?
[01:08] <OneTruth> Flannel: thx
[01:08] <Flannel> OneTruth: but, it's configurable
[01:09] <eimajenthat> dougsko, so the module is loaded, the device shows in lspci, but the interface isn't there, what do I do?
[01:09] <looksaus> OneTruth, you could also find out by looking at the httpd processes
[01:09] <dougsko> thybo: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[01:09] <_andrej_> anyone here who could help me with usb-bluetooth and phones?:)
[01:09] <rx_> hi. ive a big problem here. im using gnome and i try to play mp3 with xmms, rythmbox and totem, the songs are played but i hear an annoying noise as well. sadly, mp3 dont play at all with kde apps (amarok...)... is the problem related to the mixer? soundsystem? the codecs?
[01:09] <thybo> dougsko thanks a lot :d
[01:09] <looksaus> alienseer23, is exporting from works an option?
[01:09] <sahasrara> i just think that'd be a much more efficient way to help newcomers get online
[01:09] <dougsko> thybo: np
[01:09] <alienseer23> come again? you mean exporting to a different file type?
[01:10] <looksaus> (works -> csv, then import into OOo Base, or some SQL database
[01:10] <sahasrara> rather than reinventing the wheel and having to look in a million places and risk money trying modems
[01:10] <garryF> sounds like amixer is the issue. I've cured that by messing with alsamixer.
[01:10] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: If you go to !hardware they dont even have a modem section
[01:10] <_andrej_> i just can't pair my 6230i and my bt-usb dongle
[01:10] <looksaus> alienseer23, yes, to some simple comma separate value thing
  Call Of Duty 2 is the game
[01:10] <sahasrara> which may be necessary anyway... Jack_Sparrow: exactly! i was shocked
[01:10] <dougsko> eimajenthat: dude, wireless cards are the biggest pain in the dik on earth. i really dont have much else to suggest
[01:10] <alienseer23> looksaus, I am trying to refrain from booting to my windows partition unless absolutely necessary
[01:10] <looksaus> just to get it out of this proprietary container that wdb is
[01:10] <eimajenthat> sahasrara, I see what you're saying, but there are so many modems out there.  Meanwhile, dial-up is going away.  In a few years no one will use it.
[01:11] <lufis> Hi. I'm currently trying to run a Ubuntu LiveCD from a pretty old Compaq laptop... 60 MB of memory, 6 gig HD, 700 mhz pentrium 3... It looks like it's working until it goes to a black screen with a blinking cursor... is it just slow or is it not working?
[01:11] <eimajenthat> dougsko, thanks for trying
[01:11] <phoenix_> anyone familiar with webmin?
[01:11] <rx_> is there a gui to config alsa? except the curse one?
[01:11] <alienseer23> looksaus, will works do that for me?
[01:11] <looksaus> alienseer23, I can understand that... haven't booted into windows for the last 6-7 years
[01:11] <eimajenthat> phoenix_, a little
[01:11] <dougsko> eimajenthat: this site might have some useful info: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[01:11] <looksaus> works should probably be able to do that for you
[01:11] <eimajenthat> dougsko, thx
[01:11] <dougsko> eimajenthat: sure thing
[01:12] <sahasrara> then i need to suggest that... the only thing is are there other issues that would make a modem compatibility database useless?
[01:12] <Jack_Sparrow> eimajenthat: many still use them for portability, yahoo dsl includes a dial-up
[01:12] <sahasrara> i mean other individual compatibility factors?
[01:12] <alienseer23> looksaus, good thing that, I am just getting into Linux/Ubuntu, I like it alot more than the hell of windows, but there are few things I need from it that I just can't seem to find
[01:12] <Ubuntu_noob> so does my verizon DSL
[01:12] <alienseer23> one of which being .wdb file compatability
[01:12] <Walzmyn> damn. I can't get kuickshow to install off breezy 'cause of missing dependancies
[01:13] <Stork> how can i use a different gcc version to compile with?
[01:13] <sahasrara> for now, i had narrowed my modem search down to the amigo ame-ca95, or the bestdata 56sx92
[01:13] <alienseer23> another being a nero like burning program, and another being something like alcohol or daemon (for emulation and virtual drive loading)
[01:13] <sahasrara> both externals
[01:13] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: real hardware modems all work well, especially externals that plug into a com port, the big problem is lappy and pcmcia, forget the internal MS junky winmodems
[01:13] <Flannel> Ubuntu_noob: You'd have to find server software for it,
[01:13] <johnnowak> hello all. anyone here using ubuntu on ppc32? i'm wondering if 3D acceleration is working (in any form) for the radeon 9700 mobility (rv 350).
[01:14] <Ubuntu_noob> do i need to install special software to burn DVD/RIP them also?
[01:14] <alienseer23> I know I can use wine, but I would like to keep the windows programs away from my ubuntu install
[01:14] <thybo> dougsko gives me this error
[01:14] <thybo> Package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:14] <thybo> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:14] <thybo> is only available from another source
[01:14] <thybo> E: Package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg has no installation candidate
[01:14] <OneTruth> what is the best way to allow www-data to read/write all files in a directory?
[01:14] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: then why do i find desperate posts online of ppl who can't get supposedly-compatible modems to work? user incompetency?
[01:14] <dougsko> alienseer23: one cool thing with linux is that you dont need something like daemon tools to mount a cd image, you can just mount it like any other drive
[01:14] <X-Hacker> confidential
[01:14] <looksaus> alienseer23, this problem is one of open standards
[01:14] <Flannel> OneTruth: which directory?
[01:14] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: what kind of modem are you needing
[01:14] <looksaus> it's a one time pain
[01:14] <sahasrara> maybe i should trust that if i get a controller-based modem, one way or another i'll get it to work
[01:14] <alienseer23> looksaus, I can mount an image like a drive?"?
[01:15] <alienseer23> really!?
[01:15] <eimajenthat> Jack_Sparrow, still, it's a technology that is becoming less popular.  As for portability, wifi and cat5 are available at more locations.  Maybe I'm being regional, though.  I live in a city with a lot of tech savvy people.  Other places I've been are a few years behind.
[01:15] <OneTruth> Flannel:  a Wiki web directory
[01:15] <Aneglus> hello ubuntu comm :)
[01:15] <Stork> how can i use a different gcc version to compile with?
[01:15] <looksaus> alienseer23, ?
[01:15] <dougsko> thybo: did you edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to add the extra repos?
[01:15] <OneTruth> Flannel: call twiki in my www folder
[01:15] <alienseer23> oops, it was someone else:)
[01:15] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: i just need anything that works, right now i have a usr winmodem that will never work so i just need a controller-based one but i want it cheap
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: I use a modem that says ONLY windows compatible, auto detected and works fine.
[01:15] <sahasrara> cheap just in case it won't work
[01:15] <alienseer23> dougsko, I can mount an image like a drive?!?! really!?!?!
[01:15] <gpfreitas> Hi all... I am trying to install Dapper here, but X does not work with this live-cd. It's strange, because the Breezy live-cd worked like a charm...
 How would i start a Call of Duty 2 server on my Ubuntu Machine?
[01:15] <Piolon> help with VHCS2?
[01:15] <dooglus> alienseer23: mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /media/iso
[01:15] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: is this desktop or lappy
[01:15] <dougsko> thybo: you need multiverse, universe, main, restricted
[01:15] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: wow...
[01:15] <Flannel> OneTruth: er, if it's in www, you could just chmod it so www-data could see it.  Either by adding www-data to the group, or just chmod 775 or whatnot
[01:15] <dougsko> alienseer23: yup
[01:16] <jdps> Hi, I have an external hard drive, i reformatted it with gparted, now i go into it and try and add files or create folders....and it wont let me. How do i set it to where i can have rw access?
[01:16] <Flannel> Ubuntu_noob: you'd have to find the software and install it, just like anything else.
[01:16] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: desktop p2
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[01:16] <Ubuntu_noob> ok but do i need to use the linux source?
[01:16] <Flannel> Ubuntu_noob: there is a linux CoD2 server, so it is possible.
[01:16] <dooglus> alienseer23: you probably don't need the -t iso9660, and probably do need sudo, so:  "sudo mount file.iso /mount/point"
[01:16] <dougsko> alienseer23: read the man page for mount
[01:16] <OneTruth> Flannel: how do I add www-data to the group?
[01:16] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: do you have an available com port on the back.. com 1 or 2
[01:16] <Ubuntu_noob> ok
[01:16] <Larsson-Sweden> Is it possible to dock apps like gaim, amsn and Opera in Enlightenment?
[01:16] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: yes, one serial port next to the printer port
[01:17] <Flannel> OneTruth: you'd set the group as www-data, via chown
[01:17] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec
[01:17] <Aneglus> Larsson-Sweden, it depends of your program
[01:17] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: and 4 pci slots too
[01:17] <Aneglus> La_PaRCa, not enlightenment
[01:17] <OneTruth> Flannel: ok, and then after installation i need to make some files inaccessible by everyone, how would I do that?
[01:17] <gpfreitas> if anyone could point me out some documentation about this problem, I would be very grateful...
[01:17] <thybo> dougsko no how do you do that?
[01:17] <thybo> what sources do i add?
[01:18] <Larsson-Sweden> Aneglus, what do you mean?
[01:18] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: give me one minute... phone call
[01:18] <Stork> how can i use a different gcc version to compile with?
[01:18] <dougsko> thybo: there was a link right in the instructions i gave you that explained it
[01:18] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: np
[01:18] <MatthewV> gpfreitas, you would have been dropped to a command line, right?
[01:18] <alienseer23> dougsko, ok... sudo mount (filename).iso /media/iso     I have to add iso to my media folder, or will it do it automatically?
[01:18] <dougsko> thybo: you gotta meet me half way here
[01:18] <MatthewV> gpfreitas, try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:19] <thybo> dougsko sorry im noobing you
[01:19] <dougsko> alienseer23: that will mount the disk to /media/iso
[01:19] <Ubuntu_noob> Is there a version of AIM outside of GAIM for ubuntu?
[01:19] <Flannel> OneTruth: by everyone?  is this from the computer? or from the web?
[01:19] <dougsko> alienseer23: to do it automatically, add an entry to /etc/fstab
[01:19] <OneTruth> Flannel:  web
[01:19] <bastian> Hi!
[01:19] <Flannel> Ubuntu_noob: there are a few other IM clients that support AIM
[01:19] <alienseer23> more for me to read up on :)
[01:19] <Stork> how can i use a different gcc version to compile with?
[01:19] <Flannel> OneTruth: you'd do that... via web stuff, htaccess or whatnot.
[01:19] <OneTruth> Flannel: I just did: chown -hR www-data:www-data twiki
[01:19] <Ubuntu_noob> But is there a version of aim as its own client?
[01:19] <dougsko> alienseer23: actually, dont do that, because that disk will proably not always be in the drive
[01:19] <bastian> This is my very first IRC-session ... have some problems with Ubuntu TFTP-Servers
[01:19] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: Airlink external model AME003  I got it at frys for $25, It will work..
[01:19] <OneTruth> Flannel:  and now permission is denied through the wbe
[01:20] <OneTruth> Flannel:  ok
[01:20] <alienseer23> no, I can do it automatically, it's fine
[01:20] <skmidry> anybody have any luck with the new intel graphics open sourced drivers?
[01:20] <gpfreitas> MatthewV: ok, but what should I expect from this command? (thanks for answering!)
[01:20] <Aneglus> Ubuntu_noob, why do you want such an application
[01:20] <Flannel> Ubuntu_noob: No, AOL hasn't released AIM for linux, as far as I'm aware
[01:20] <dougsko> alienseer23: just rin that mount command whenever you want to mount the disk. and make sure to do a "umount" before taking it out
[01:20] <bastian> Could anybody help me please or is there any dedicated channel for such problems?
[01:20] <mcphail> Stork: just install a different version and call it by name
[01:20] <dougsko> alienseer23: that goes double for usb drives
[01:20] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: oh ok thank you, so you know that works specifically with ubuntu (and then kubuntu, edubuntu?)?
[01:20] <MatthewV> gpfreitas, it will run you through configuring x, so hopefully that will solve your problems
[01:20] <Flannel> bastian: you're in it
[01:20] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: It says all over it, requires windows.. but that is only for the software and support that they provide.  It is a quality hardware modem.
[01:21] <gpfreitas> MatthewV: I mean, I've run this program before... What I wanted to ask is, what is likely to be the problem?
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: and yes I understand your frustration, I tried 10 modems that said LINUX comp, and didnt work for dodo
[01:21] <alienseer23> dougsko, so I don not need the -loop, or -t commands?
[01:21] <bastian> Fine ... in short: I'd like to run a TFTP-Server for diskless booting
[01:21] <Ubuntu_noob> Because i do not like chat clients that have multiple im clients on it because all of my list in every client have the same group names so all of them are together in i dont like that
[01:21] <bastian> The problem is, that only localhost is served but no other host in the local network
[01:21] <gpfreitas> MatthewV: or better yet, what logs should I look for further information on the problem?
[01:21] <MatthewV> gpfreitas, if breezy worked and dapper didn't? I can only guess... what sort of hardware are you running?
[01:21] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: and Mepis and Knoppix and..
[01:21] <alienseer23> dougsko, just a mount command at the iso file, aimed at media/iso ?
[01:21] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: aha, that's what i meant, i'm lucky so far not to have tried any, that's why i'm so cautious
[01:21] <bastian> It's Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Server
[01:21] <MatthewV> gpfreitas, logs will be in /var/log/X11/<something>
[01:21] <dougsko> alienseer23: ive never used the -l switch, and you only need the -t switch is the regular mount command doesnt recognise the filesystem on its own
[01:22] <EvilGrin> yay
[01:22] <Aneglus> Ubuntu_noob, and gaim doesn't work correctly
[01:22] <MatthewV> gpfreitas, sorry, thats /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:22] <bastian> I've searched the web but didn't find any answer for the problem
[01:22] <Ubuntu_noob> I got 6.06 LTS Intell on a amd64 machine
[01:22] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: and i'm attached to the idea of ubuntu now, so i don't want to get stuck with a modem and have to shop for a new distro to use it on
[01:22] <bastian> There are no firewall rules set, there are no restrictions to hosts set in any way
[01:22] <alienseer23> so you are telling me I can mount any number of iso files, giving them a seperate mount point in the media folder?
[01:22] <bastian> I've tried both atftp and tftpd-hta
[01:23] <Ubuntu_noob> i cant stand gain all my buddy groups in MSN Yahoo and AIM have the same names so they are all together in GAIM
[01:23] <gpfreitas> MatthewV: Thanks. Well, as for the hardware... hmmmm... It seems a little bit unreliable to me. The components are from good manufacturers, but we have some strange problems with the video card every now and then...
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: I tried many many and way many... that said linux comp, sure they work if you compile them...
[01:23] <Aneglus> sahasrara, if you change for another distro it won t change anything...
[01:23] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: so what's the model of the winmodem you said you got to work with ubuntu?
[01:23] <jicei> hello
[01:23] <bastian> Hiu
[01:23] <dougsko> Ubuntu_noob: use bitlbee and irssi
[01:23] <Jack_Sparrow> THe Xircom is not a winmodem..
[01:23] <Ubuntu_noob> Do ehat>
[01:23] <dougsko> Ubuntu_noob: its a really sweet setup
[01:23] <Ubuntu_noob> What?
[01:23] <sahasrara> Aneglus: but for some people different distros work out better for different modems (hence less time spend fiddling around)
[01:23] <dougsko> Ubuntu_noob: just google it
[01:23] <bastian> Sorry, is there anyone who could help me out with my TFTP-Problem?
[01:23] <Ubuntu_noob> wann help me out on it?
[01:24] <Jack_Sparrow> But because it is a pcmcia on port 36 I had to make some adjustments
[01:24] <Ubuntu_noob> idk wtf u are talkin bout sorry
[01:24] <dougsko> Ubuntu_noob: not really, its pretty easy and theres tons of howtos already there for the readin'
[01:24] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow, oh ok
[01:24] <OneTruth> bastian:  doesnt seem to be many server gurus here today
[01:24] <Aneglus> Ubuntu_noob, try the last gaim beta 3
[01:24] <Ubuntu_noob> Where do i find what you are talking about?
[01:24] <bastian> So nobody tried ever to setup tftp on any ubuntu-machine?
[01:24] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: isn't compiling drivers par for the course? i've seen a million pages on that
[01:24] <alienseer23> dougsko, will other image files work for that, nrg, bin-cue, ect...
[01:24] <dougsko> Ubuntu_noob: GOOGLE
[01:24] <Aneglus> Ubuntu_noob, dumb question man
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: It need not be
 i cant stand +GAIM
[01:25] <dougsko> alienseer23: yeah
[01:25] <MatthewV> gpfreitas, what video card do you have?
[01:25] <bastian> Well, was worth I try and never the less my first IRC session at all :-)
[01:25] <alienseer23> wow, that's cool
[01:25] <Aneglus> Ubuntu_noob, what do u mean ?
[01:25] <bastian> Thank you and greetings from Vienna, Austria
[01:25] <OneTruth> bastian: no im sure they have, it just doesnt seem that there are any FTP experts here... Keep asking somone will show up eventially
[01:25] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: that's good to hear :) i'd rather the thing just work
[01:25] <gpfreitas> Some Nvidia card... it was a bit buggy from the beginning...
[01:25] <dougsko> bastian: whats your problem?
[01:25] <bastian> I'
[01:25] <Ubuntu_noob> I do not like the way gaim is set up
[01:25] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: If that one dosent work you can yell at me all you want....
[01:26] <bastian> I'd like to setup a TFTP server for diskless booting
[01:26] <alienseer23> dougsko, thanks for the good news, there. What about emulation for playing back-up images of gaims in cedega or thru wine?
[01:26] <bastian> I've already set up the server at all but it doesn't serve anything else than localhost
[01:26] <Aneglus> Ubuntu_noob, there is lot improvement in the last version =)
[01:26] <Aneglus> Ubuntu_noob, for sure try it
[01:26] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: I know it will work fine as will almost any hardware/external modem
[01:26] <Aneglus> Ubuntu_noob, I agree with u the old gaim is soo ugly and hard to use
[01:26] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: lol
[01:26] <thybo> any link with screens of gaim 3?
[01:26] <dougsko> bastian: ok, first off, let me stop you there. no ftp, no tftp, SSH is the only way
[01:26] <gpfreitas> MatthewV: some buggy Nvidia card!
[01:26] <Aneglus> Ubugtu, the new one is much better
[01:26] <Ubuntu_noob> ok well i let my tux box download the updates and it is stucl on a black screen now
[01:26] <bastian> dougsko: It receives the GET-request, but doesn't serve
[01:26] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: ok, at least i'm not shopping for a dual-pc modem like i was
[01:27] <bastian> Pardon?
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: I have the modem box in front of me for the airlink and it still has three pci modems in it
[01:27] <dougsko> bastian: oh, so you already kind of have it set up?
[01:27] <MatthewV> gpfreitas, if its an nvidia card, you could take a look at !nvidia that should be able to help you
[01:27] <bastian> :dougsko: Yes
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: make that 4.. two are usr
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: one is diamond and the other 3com..
[01:27] <bastian> :dougsko it's set up and running (tried it as daemon and using both inetd and xinetd - no difference)
[01:27] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: pci modems in it? you mean the ones you tried before?
[01:27] <dougsko> alienseer23: i havent used ccedega, but ived used wine with limited success for random apps. its all a crapshoot really
[01:27] <Jack_Sparrow> yep:)
[01:28] <djk_> what are the advantages of sysklogd vs metalog and vice versa?
[01:28] <alienseer23> last question of the moment, can anyone tell me where to look to find something to handle a .wdb (works data base) file?
[01:28] <alienseer23> dougsko, ok
[01:28] <bastian> :dougsko: But it only serves files to localhost and I can't understand why ...
[01:28] <dougsko> bastian: do you have any firewalls running?
[01:28] <rhican> is there a loginmannager (DM) i can apt-get, that won't force me to type the usernames, but sut select them from a list?
[01:28] <bastian> :dougsko: No firewalls, iptables are absolutely clean
[01:28] <OneTruth> when i set the owner of a directory to www-data i can no longer get to it over the web... Why is this?
[01:29] <gpfreitas> MatthewV: Thanks, I'll try that!
[01:29] <dougsko> bastian: just pastbin me your config file, its too hard to try and trouble shoot without it. and also include whatever errors or anything you see
[01:29] <bastian> :dougsko: How can I transfer it to you?
[01:29] <Ubuntu_noob> What version of GAIM beta3 do i need to get?
[01:29] <bastian> :dougsko: via mail?
[01:29] <dougsko> just give me the link
[01:30] <sahasrara> someone on the forum sent me to the standard linux modem compabitility sites, i say they are not enough, that distros should be specified with modems in lists
[01:30] <bastian> :dougsko: I've not copied a config file 1:1
[01:30] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: Agreed...
[01:30] <Ubuntu_noob> how do i access my root user on my tuxbox?
[01:30] <dougsko> bastian: go to http://pastebin.ca/
[01:30] <dougsko> bastian: paste all relevant info, submit the post, and give me the link
[01:31] <OneTruth> Ubuntu_noob:  Use the Sudo command
[01:31] <Ubuntu_noob> sudo?
[01:31] <OneTruth> Ubuntu_noob:  or if you are doing alot of root commands: Sudu su
[01:31] <Ubuntu_noob> sudo?
[01:31] <MatthewV> !sudo
[01:31] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:31] <OneTruth> Ubuntu_noob: sudo command here
[01:31] <bastian> ok, gimme some minutes, I'm going to collect the configs and paste them!
[01:31] <sahasrara> oh that's what sudo means
[01:31] <sahasrara> i saw "sudo make" somewhere
[01:31] <dougsko> bastian: word
[01:31] <Aneglus> Ubuntu_noob, man just read some things on the Wiki
[01:31] <OneTruth> Ubuntu_noob: just put sudo before any command to run it as super-user
[01:31] <Ubuntu_noob> ok well i cant access my user when i login i get a black screen
[01:31] <Aneglus> Ubuntu_noob, because... it's too much
[01:32] <sahasrara> linux is taking over my life, i've got 3 books i'm reading on it, plus websites
[01:32] <J-_> nice, just made a gksudo nautilus "icon", never thought it'd work :D
[01:32] <sahasrara> all this to save a buck not having to upgrade to windows lol
[01:33] <DeathSoul> hello
[01:33] <sahasrara> ok i also just always wanted to switch to linux
[01:33] <J-_> windows stinks =X
[01:33] <azureal> sahasrara, that's pretty sad, w/ three books and sites and you don't know sudo lol
[01:33] <dougsko> Ubuntu_noob: seriously dude, theres a lot of newbs here, but you have to do some reading on your own. almost any question you can think of has been answered already. if youve already read about something and have a *specific* question, thats the time to ask
[01:34] <dougsko> Ubuntu_noob: but dont exoect us to teach you how to use unix
[01:34] <DeathSoul> anyone here thats kind of "experienced" with ubunto?
[01:34] <azureal> what's ubunto?
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: http://www.suseblog.com/index.php go to july 31 near the bottom is a link to a free book, the easiest linux book you will ever read
[01:34] <xsimo> haha
[01:34] <OneTruth> azureal: never heard of ubunto
[01:34] <DeathSoul> ubuntu , sorry , my mistake :P
[01:34] <bastian> one more minute :)
[01:34] <J-_> Ubuntu_noob: just gran a pencil and some paper, once you know a command, and its use. write it down, it helps A LOT
[01:34] <sahasrara> one of my books is an O'Reilly one on Unix, from the library, plus i have 2 unix books of my own
[01:34] <xsimo> typos happens
[01:35] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: oh cool thank you
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:35] <viper550> I'm just curious, what IRC clients are you using? I am using KVirc now
[01:35] <azureal> xchat
[01:35] <OneTruth> sahasrara: Linux in a nutshell by Oreilly is my BEST FRIEND EVER
[01:35] <fissy> telnet
[01:35] <J-_> irssi
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: If you cant find that modem let me know..
[01:35] <dougsko> irssi
[01:36] <OneTruth> colloquy :0
[01:36] <sahasrara> OneTruth: isn't that for review? after you kinda know it?
[01:36] <sahasrara> Jack_sparrow: alright, thank you...
[01:36] <OneTruth> sahasrara: yeah it's basically a reference of every linux command
[01:36] <xsimo> not for dummies
[01:36] <OneTruth> sahasrara: not  a learn linux, just a linux reference
[01:36] <bastian> :dougsko: Name/Title: bastian_tftpd
[01:37] <dougsko> bastian: ok, ill take a look at it
[01:37] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: http://www.3gplaza.com/estore/control/computer3g/category?category_id=7000&menu_id=0  $32 free shipping
[01:37] <jordanau> how do i make grip, not sound juicer, open when a cd is placed in the drive
[01:37] <sahasrara> OneTruth: brb
[01:37] <kupesoft> How do I build a chroot jail for ssh users?
[01:37] <bastian> :dougsko: http://pastebin.ca/127027
[01:37] <fissy> jordanau: System > Preferences > Removable Drives and Media
[01:37] <sahasrara> back lol... had to get my Unix in a Nutshell, OneTruth: isn't mine as good as yours (Linux in a Nutshell)?
[01:38] <bastian> :dougsko: wrong: http://pastebin.ca/127028
[01:38] <azureal> sahasrara, oh, i glanced at that book...and don't like it
[01:38] <J-_> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper has helped me a lot, still is.
[01:38] <DeathSoul> anyhow , ill just ask my question before i decide to use ubuntu, I know every unix supports wireless, but ive been reading around and cant really find a answer. Last time i tried unix(mandrake). I couldnt find my wireless card(even though i used the cd that comes with it. so my question is, how do i get my wireless up and running?(talking about internet connection)
[01:38] <OneTruth> sahasrara: uhh I imagine the linux one has more linux specific commands
[01:38] <azureal> OneTruth: it's a very bad book...it's basically man pages
[01:38] <sahasrara> OneTruth: true
[01:38] <azureal> if there was any substance
[01:38] <kupesoft> DeathSoul:  http://help.ubuntu.com/communit
[01:38] <sahasrara> azureal: which one don't you like? Unix in a Nutshell?
[01:39] <kupesoft> DeathSoul:  * http://help.ubuntu.com/community
[01:39] <OneTruth> azureal:  thats the point of the book, its a command reference
[01:39] <azureal> sahasrara, i looked at linux in a nutshell for about 5 minutes before deleting it
[01:39] <hangfire> DeathSoul- I think you have to check what drivers the wireless card youre using supports
[01:39] <johnjimmy> Hello everyone
[01:39] <maiden30403> For some reason ubuntu is blocking my port for connecting to msn but I can access it by using port 80. However it seems to run slower this way. It worked with port 1863 yesterday but it seems to have just stopped working. And I haven't changed any settings on my router. Anyone have any idea as to what's going on?
[01:39] <J-_> wahh you can download that book...?
[01:39] <B_166-ER-X> how can i connect a ubuntu pc, on a 56k modem  ?
[01:39] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: hey that looks exactly the same as the Amigo (Conexant) :P
[01:40] <sahasrara> azureal: ohh
[01:40] <azureal> OneTruth, er... that's the pt of man pages..
[01:40] <DeathSoul> ok , thnx hangfire
[01:40] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: do you have a modem in there now?
[01:40] <OneTruth> azureal: yeah i know but to use man you need to know what the command is called
[01:40] <NITROSLICK> Where can I download the Ubuntu Live-CD distro?
[01:40] <sahasrara> i do like command references, as long as i have a learning book too
[01:40] <OneTruth> azureal: dont you?
[01:40] <azureal> OneTruth, you could randomly look at /usr/bin if you're bored, lol
[01:41] <OneTruth> azureal: lol
[01:41] <eugman> I would like to know how to set my swap back to using the swap partition.
[01:41] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: yeah it's a USR 56k Winmodem (not supported at all)
[01:41] <{K}Lubby> hey
[01:41] <arukirei> does anyone know how to disable the background on remote desktop connection??
[01:41] <OneTruth> azureal: man cp ... nope not that one, man mv.... nope, man
[01:41] <dougsko> bastian: paste your config file for the tftp server. it'll be in /etc somewhere
[01:41] <{K}Lubby> i have a question: what's a good program to use on ubuntu that works as an email server?
[01:41] <azureal> OneTruth,  man man!
[01:41] <OneTruth> azureal:  good ol' trial and error, there are only a few thousand commands right?
[01:41] <mcphail> OneTruth: apropos
[01:41] <Xenguy> B_166-ER-X: 'kppp' may be worth a look, depending on your situation
[01:41] <jordanau> thank you fissy
[01:42] <johnjimmy>  the problem is "NO CARRIER" i think with WVdial and Kppp. I also tried ppp0 and got the same thing! Ive searched the net and so far, the solutions arent working fer me. I've a Conexant HSF modem which works really gud with Windows
[01:42] <fissy> {K}Lubby: postfix and dovecot together are very easy
[01:42] <johnjimmy> can any one help?
[01:42] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: your Airlink recommendation confirms the Amigo rec i already got, b/c they look like the same Conexant modem under different names
[01:42] <eugman> Hahahaha man has a man page. Awesome
[01:42] <azureal> OneTruth, well that's how you see it
[01:42] <{K}Lubby> fissy: where do i get them?
[01:42] <Chetwin> !synaptics
[01:42] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo
[01:42] <sahasrara> :)
[01:42] <OneTruth> azureal: ive never tried man man,
[01:42] <Jack_Sparrow> the model AME is a clue
[01:42] <Jeruvy> newb
[01:42] <azureal> I'd recommend a better linux tutorial, one where you learn by actually typing the commands
[01:42] <azureal> www.linuxsurvival.com
[01:42] <kupesoft> how do I build a chroot jail
[01:42] <fissy> {K}Lubby: do you know how to use the synaptic package manager?
[01:42] <maiden30403> For some reason ubuntu is blocking my port for connecting to msn but I can access it by using port 80. However it seems to run slower this way. It worked with port 1863 yesterday but it seems to have just stopped working. And I haven't changed any settings on my router. Anyone have any idea as to what's going on?
[01:42] <azureal> it's just the basics, but a great start
[01:43] <sahasrara> azureal and OneTruth: well i think the reference books are nice b/c they are portable, right? sometimes i like to just read a paper book
[01:43] <xsimo> man man does describes how man works
[01:43] <{K}Lubby> fissy: uhhh i think so, open it, click what i want to instal, hit apply, right?
[01:43] <sahasrara> azureal: that's good to know too
[01:43] <OneTruth> azureal:  i agree, i cannot learn linux from this book. need a tutorial type lesson
[01:43] <OneTruth> sahasrara: yea if you like to read Man pages, Linux in a nutshell is definetly for you
[01:43] <B_166-ER-X> Xenguy,  nice, but the computer i'm trying to connect is NOT on the internet, so cannot download anything, isnt there suposed to have something already installed for this ??
[01:43] <A-L-P-H-A> anyone got clues to my wifi linux problem? http://pastebin.ca/127036
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: and highlighters are brutal on my monitor
[01:44] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: are you the one who gave me the link to the suse rant?
[01:44] <bastian> :dougsko Anything seen yet?
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: no
[01:44] <dougsko> heres a UNIX newbie challenge: make a text file and save it as "-test" (minus the quotes). now try and and delete that file from the command line
[01:44] <sahasrara> hm well i don't know if i like to read man pages... but i can say i do like completeness if i can understand it
[01:44] <fissy> {K}Lubby: yep, search for postfix and install that. then search for dovecot and install dovecot common and whichever of the two delivery protocols you want, IMAP or PoP
[01:44] <dougsko> bastian: no, dude, paste in you config file for the tftp server
[01:44] <azureal> haha... since we're talking about 'highlighters', does anyone know how to make characters that are bold just be bright, but not 2x wider?
[01:44] <dougsko> bastian: itll be in /etc somewhere
[01:44] <azureal> (xterm or aterm)
[01:45] <kupesoft> how do I set up a chroot jail?!
[01:45] <bastian> :dougsko The TFTP-Server doesn't have a config file!
[01:45] <{K}Lubby> fissy: what's the difference between imap and pop, and which is better?
[01:45] <sahasrara> i may be overwhelmed but i still like to get the whole tech story (all my computer school books are severely tabbed up)
[01:45] <jvai> hey every1, is the dapper iso, the official 1? i dl'ed an earlier 1 last month, is it good still?
[01:45] <bastian> :dougsko it's only configured by parameters
[01:45] <eugman> Can someone  tell me how to fix my swap so it uses the partition like before?
[01:45] <azureal> sahasrara, basically, the more you read, the better
[01:45] <dougsko> bastian: what does that mean?
[01:45] <bastian> :dougsko There IS no config-file for the TFTP-server itself
[01:45] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: that was a joke, right? (the highlighters)
[01:45] <dougsko> bastian: you just use switches when you start it/
[01:46] <azureal> .. because in the linux world, no one wants to hold your hand
[01:46] <azureal> or spoon-feed you
[01:46] <hangfire> sahasrara- There are good online tutorials for learning to use Linux http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[01:46] <azureal> they just want to be able to point in a direction and have you go there...
[01:46] <Xenguy> B_166-ER-X: hrm, I don't recall manually installing kppp here (I don't use dial-up) and yet it is installed... Are you sure it is not installed?
[01:46] <xeh> thats what google is for:)
[01:46] <jvai> well, right now, i'm downloading the new released dapper, & i deleted the old iso i had in my home folder
[01:46] <sahasrara> azureal: that's why i hurt myself reading so much, and still have more to read lol
[01:46] <azureal> ...and discover the buried bone yourself =)
[01:46] <fissy> {K}Lubby: IMAP has more features and is more modern. POP is only really good as a really basic way of delivering a message to a client and forgetting about it. You can have both protocols working simultaneously if you don't want to have to choose between them
[01:46] <jvai> it's not even a bittorent ither, just a straight dlo
[01:46] <bastian> :dougsko correct!
[01:47] <dougsko> bastian: id say, for now, make your hosts.allow just say ALL:ALL
[01:47] <bastian> :dougsko Only switches
[01:47] <sahasrara> azureal: and i don't mind being pointed in a direction, i just like ppl to understand that i do research a lot and sometimes need that nudge
[01:47] <azureal> sahasrara, well, you just have people pointing you in the right direction of the reading
[01:47] <dougsko> bastian: and dont have anything in hosts.deny
[01:47] <dougsko> bastian: just for trouble shooting purposes
[01:47] <eugman> Hey, is there anyone who has use UCK who can help me with a porblem?
[01:47] <{K}Lubby> fissy: is there any way that i can make it work so that when my linux computer (the email server) isn't on and someone tries to send me an email i can get it when i turn the computer back on?
[01:47] <Xenguy> B_166-ER-X: sorry, my mistake, it is not installed here
[01:47] <Flannel> jvai: both ISOs are fine, 6.06.1 just includes bugfixes from 6.06, which means that you have less to download after intsallation to be up to date, and the installer is updated, and fixes some issues
[01:47] <dougsko> bastian: oh yeah, and disable your firewall completely on yr windows box
[01:47] <sahasrara> i need that ebook link again b/c i don't know how to search the screen here
[01:48] <bastian> :dougsko Okay, gimme some minutes for some tries!
[01:48] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: didn't you give me an ebook link?
[01:48] <hangfire> sahasrara- There are good online tutorials for learning to use Linux http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[01:48] <OneTruth> sahasrara: http://www.suseblog.com/?p=141
[01:48] <mcphail> {K}Lubby: that will happen anyway. The sender rpogram will keep trying to send in the background
[01:48] <neutrinomass> Any idea if it's possible to control my laptop's fan manually ? (It's usually on my lap and it gets quite hot, and I don't mind the fan running when on AC )
[01:48] <dougsko> sahasrara: if you go to O'Reilly's site, they have some free books like that online
[01:48] <sahasrara> azureal: this tutorial looks good
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: yes
[01:48] <Xenguy> B_166-ER-X: try pppconfig
[01:48] <azureal> sahasrara, linux survival? it's fun =)
[01:48] <jvai> ok.. that's what i want, it'll be an quicker install, but i deleted the old iso aready :(
[01:48] <fissy> {K}Lubby: yesss, but that really means that you need to have another email server on all the time somewhere else that can accept mail for you if your computer is off. Are you trying to set up a mail server to receive mail for a domain you own, or for an email account somewhere else?
[01:48] <jvai> thanx @ flannel
[01:49] <thybo> is there an xvid codec?
[01:49] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: oh and the suse rant was the current topic.. yes sorry
[01:49] <azureal> hha
[01:49] <azureal> haha*
[01:49] <sahasrara> ohh
[01:50] <azureal> thybo: yes, there's an xvid codec.. not sure if easyubuntu gets it for you or not
[01:50] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: suse rant was the topic? is the ebook on there or did you give me another link for it?
[01:50] <azureal> !easyubuntu > thybo
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: http://www.suseblog.com/index.php go to july 31 near the bottom is a link to a free book, the easiest linux book you will ever read
[01:50] <sahasrara> ah yes, thanks
[01:50] <dougsko> thybo: dude, use VLC for *all* your video needs
[01:50] <tkup> pvcreate /dev/hdb1 completes successfully. but vgcreate xen /dev/hdb1 /dev/hda5 gives me "No physical volume label read from /dev/hdb1" and "not identified as an existing physical volume"
[01:50] <dougsko> thybo: it seriously plays EVERYTHING
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: :)
[01:51] <OneTruth> VLC is the best, it does play everything
[01:51] <sahasrara> yes i got it! thanks!
[01:51] <xsimo> me too
[01:51] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: Even here you need to read carefully
[01:51] <B_166-ER-X> Xenguy , thx i try taht
[01:52] <Xenguy> B_166-ER-X: good luck
[01:52] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, i didn't have logging on, sorry, and i dont' know how to search in here if it's possible
[01:52] <sahasrara> my main goal is to get a modem and get switched over to linux, then i'll bury myself in linux sandcastles all day lol
[01:52] <azureal> but thybo, easyubuntu helps you get a lot of great codecs
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: why not dual boot..
[01:53] <tkup> Anyone can help with LVM issues?
[01:53] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: because my hd is too small for windows to partition it
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: ggod enough
[01:53] <Jack_Sparrow> good
[01:53] <azureal> windows=gaming ;   linux=everything else
[01:53] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: it's 8 gigs... or i was told i'd need a 2nd hd..
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> azureal: WIndows is MY playstation.. :)
[01:54] <azureal> 8 gig hd?!?!
[01:54] <bastian> :dougsko For nothing ... works locally but not remote
[01:54] <sahasrara> hehe
[01:54] <thybo> thanks azureal
[01:54] <azureal> ...for some reason i can't play ut in linux w/ this graphics card...
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: where in the world are you...  or does your nick say it all.
[01:54] <azureal> ..but i can in windows...oh well
[01:54] <azureal> thybo: np
[01:54] <sahasrara> i pride myself on making good use of limited resources :)
[01:55] <whoppix> heya ppl :) i just wanted to ask if there is a reason why ubuntu has 3 cron daemons by default? (anachron, atd,cron) and two logging daemons (klogd and syslogd) that seems very much to me, can i disable some of them? thx for answer in advance :)
[01:55] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: i'm in the us, my name is just a chakra thing :P
[01:55] <B_166-ER-X> dang, when ubuntu boots, it stops and come all BLack when trying to go in X, and in safemode, /etc/X11/xorg.conf     says 'error, cannot open display' (null) , any ideas ?
[01:55] <azureal> sahasrara, you just will have to avoid a lot of fun habits
[01:55] <azureal> sahasrara, like anime, lol
[01:55] <J-_> i just converted both my systems to linux, my crappier system is going to be a webserver, and my bett'r system will be my "experimental system" til i get better at linux. then, i'll have my groove on (learning different languages and utilizing them.
[01:55] <Chetwin> Hey all, my touchpad is a total sham.  Can anyone help me?  I tried following the HOWTO, but it didn't work
[01:55] <jordanau> i set grip to open whenever a cd opens, now when i put in a cd a second instance opens if a first was open, how do i get the cd to open in an existing instance of grip?
[01:55] <sahasrara> the only problem is my backup cd's are kind of piling up, so i think it'd be nice to get all that data onto a hd or something
[01:55] <azureal> J-_: what flavor is your server
[01:56] <azureal> (or distro)
[01:56] <J-_> clark connect
[01:56] <sahasrara> *is a packrat for saved research*
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: I am west coast you?
[01:56] <Jeruvy> whoppix: sure, simply check each to make sure the ones you don't want are not being used.  You may have to shuffle some tasks around but not too difficult, probably not tho
[01:56] <Flannel> sahasrara: go buy a 300gb HD ;)  you can get them for like $50.  Pretty cheap.
[01:56] <dougsko> B_166-ER-X: check the xorg error log, itll often tell you the section its failing on
[01:56] <azureal> Flannel, yea, i need one of those ;)
[01:56] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: midwest
[01:56] <Chetwin> Annyone anyone?
[01:56] <Chetwin> Hey all, my touchpad is a total sham.  Can anyone help me?  I tried following the HOWTO, but it didn't work
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: try the thrift shops,
[01:56] <azureal> !anyone > Chetwin
[01:56] <jordanau> Chetwin, did you follow it perfectly or did you have problems doing it?
[01:56] <sahasrara> now i'm running into a long file name problem with nero burning my backup
[01:57] <Flannel> sahasrara: heck, just ditch your 8, you'll probably save a bunch of energy too.  since Im sure that 8 is at least 10 years old
[01:57] <J-_> azureal: not that i can call it a server YET, still learning HEH
[01:57] <Flannel> er, 5 even.
[01:57] <DeathSoul> noob question : what version linux is this? (im gonna download some drivers, and i need to spesify what linux it is) 2.2.x , 2.4.x or 2.6.x ?
[01:57] <Chetwin> No i followed it to the letter
[01:57] <whoppix> Jeruvy, well, actually this is a workstation, so i dont think i need any logging daemons/cronjob daemons at all, or do the system need those services (maybe for the update-thingy or so) or can i safely disable them?
[01:57] <mcphail> whoppix: why would you want to disable them? They all do different things...
[01:57] <Flannel> DeathSoul: 2.6.15 for dapper
[01:57] <{K}Lubby> fissy: i installed postfix, dovecot common, and dovecot imap... now where are they and how do i set them up?
[01:57] <thybo> how do u use easyubuntu?:s
[01:57] <gorodek> hi, my question isnt ubuntu related, but hopefully someone can help me out. i have a dm-crypt crypted disk and want to permantly decrypt this disk, without temporary copying the data onto another disk. is dd if=/dev/mapper/crypted1 of=/dev/sdc a possible and an adaquate solution? what would you suggest and is there any tutorial out there?  i couldnt find anything about decrypting on google ;(
[01:57] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: yeah, one in the area has pc's plugged in so you can check them out
[01:57] <dougsko> sahasrara: yeah theres a name limit in the juliet system
[01:57] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: Do a scandisk on that drive thorough
[01:57] <DeathSoul> thanks Flannel
[01:57] <Jeruvy> whoppix: that would be why I'd think, you don't want to bust a daemon
[01:58] <B_166-ER-X> dougsko,  where do i find this log ? :|
[01:58] <sahasrara> Jack_Sparrow: and i look on craigslist a lot lately, i missed a huge computer parts giveaway one day
[01:58] <azureal> thybo: so you followed the wiki?
[01:58] <jordanau> !easyubuntu
[01:58] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:58] <mcphail> whoppix: debian based systems use system cronjobs to do housekeeping tasks. Best keep them going
[01:58] <fissy> {K}Lubby: what would you like to do with your mail server? the config files should be /etc/postfix/main.cf and /etc/dovecot.conf
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> easybuntu is the russian roulette of Linux...
[01:58] <whoppix> mcphail, well, til now i only used 1 cron/logging daemon, and on my workstations i usually didnt installed any at all :)
[01:58] <dougsko> B_166-ER-X: /var/log/Xorg.0.log seems about right...
[01:58] <sahasrara> dougsko: yeah i hate it, so i saved a zillion cd burning utilities, but none seems to have data verification, long file name handling, and some other feature i forget at the moment
[01:58] <B_166-ER-X> thx
[01:58] <dougsko> B_166-ER-X: almost all your logs are going to be in /var/log/
[01:58] <{K}Lubby> fissy: i want to set it up to use as an email account
[01:58] <whoppix> mcphail, ok, thx for the tips, ill keep them, they are not consuming many resources anyway :)
[01:59] <azureal> thybo: you followed the directions for "Copy paste the code below to get and run EasyUbuntu."  ?
[01:59] <thybo> azureal : sorry itsa bit late :p
[01:59] <whoppix> Jeruvy, thx to you too :)
[01:59] <sahasrara> you get maybe 2 out of 3, so i need a separate data verifying tool i guess, then i can try BurnAtOnce
[01:59] <fissy> {K}Lubby: have you got a domain name to use?
[01:59] <Chetwin> I have a better question!!!  I have an HP, so all of my bios updates are for windows in the form of exes.  How am I supposed to apply a bios update?
[01:59] <FantasticFoo> sorry if this is a stupid question, bear in mind that i'm not a linux expert - is it possible to get direct rendering on the graphics card of a dell inspiron 2200 (apparently some sort of 'intel' graphics chip)? if not, what's the recommended driver for this?
[01:59] <mcphail> whoppix: think you can lose the logging daemons, though
[01:59] <azureal> thybo: what's late?
[01:59] <dougsko> sahasrara: in the linux world, k3b is my favorite burning app
[01:59] <thybo> da time
[01:59] <{K}Lubby> fissy: what do you mean?
[01:59] <dougsko> sahasrara: if you havent tried it, definalty give it a go
[01:59] <sahasrara> dougsko: i read it's good
[01:59] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: K3B is very cool
[01:59] <azureal> thybo: oh, you just needed to follow those lines and it's pretty eaesy afterwards =)
[01:59] <fissy> {K}Lubby<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:00] <azureal> 4 lines; 3asy
[02:00] <Chetwin> I have an HP, so all of my bios updates are for windows in the form of exes.  How am I supposed to apply a bios update?
[02:00] <fissy> {K}Lubby: i take it you don't want to set up an email server to access your hotmail
[02:00] <dougsko> sahasrara: its really just a front end to utilites like cdrecord and such
[02:00] <{K}Lubby> fissy: uhhh i don't know, what do i have to do to get one? (i dont have one that i know of)
[02:00] <Chetwin> !synaptics
[02:00] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo
[02:00] <sahasrara> dougsko: ah ok, i read about that one, i have it saved too lol
[02:00] <dougsko> sahasrara: but what a beautiful it is
[02:00] <sahasrara> i go on downloading sprees
[02:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Chetwin: what is the purpose of the bios updates, they are usually to allow bigger drives and new hardware...
[02:00] <dougsko> sahasrara:... beautiful frontend that is
[02:01] <azureal> Jack_Sparrow, i have to disagree
[02:01] <sahasrara> but does it do data verification *looks for her cd burning cheatsheet she made*
[02:01] <Chetwin> Jack_Sparrow: It could be the cause of my touchpad issues
[02:01] <Flannel> Chetwin: actually, those EXEs just make boot disks... usually.  the BIOS on most machines takes care of it's own updates, once you have a boot disk and do whatever the magic keypresses are
[02:01] <fissy> {K}Lubby: you either need to buy one you like from someone like godaddy.com, or choose a free one from someone like dyndns.org. dyndns.org is a better choice if you're just learning how to do stuff and don't want to spend any money
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> azureal: with what.. that Automatix and easybuntu are NOT ready for prime time.
[02:01] <sahasrara> oh i don't know where it is
[02:01] <{K}Lubby> fissy: okay, so then what do i do next?
[02:01] <azureal> Jack_Sparrow, i disagree w/ your k3b comment ;)
[02:02] <fissy> {K}Lubby: configure postfix so that it will accept email for the domain you're going to register, then configure it to place the email it receives in folders in your filesystem
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Chetwin: the bios updates have info on what they are for...
[02:02] <{K}Lubby> fissy: what do i do on dyndns.org?
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> azureal: I like K3B
[02:03] <xsimo> does anyone uses mandriva linux ?
[02:03] <Touru> Is it possible to make a full /home into its own partition somehow? And if so, is there a HowTo someone could point me to?
[02:03] <bastian> :dougsko Somebody wrote that diabling IPv6 will solve the problem ... I'm going to try out
[02:03] <Flannel> xsimo: #mandriva people do, I'm sure
[02:03] <azureal> Jack_Sparrow, good, just don't ask me to like it =)
[02:03] <dougsko> bastian: cool
[02:03] <Jack_Sparrow> azureal: IT has yet to make a coaster.
[02:03] <sahasrara> i don't know where my cheatsheet summary is... does it do long filenames?
[02:03] <dougsko> azureal: yeah dude, kde stuff is so heavy weight
[02:03] <fissy> {K}Lubby: register a domain, like lubby.dyndns.org. You could then use that as your web site, and people could email you at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:03] <jvai> find a dapper torrent!!! YAAY, now i only got like a ruff hour, bfore this coffeeshop closes
[02:03] <gorpon> leave #ubuntu
[02:03] <dougsko> azureal: so is gnome stuff for that matter...
[02:03] <gorpon> err doh sory
[02:03] <azureal> dougsko: I quietly avoided installing kde
[02:03] <gorpon> :)
[02:04] <gorpon> \leave ubuntu
[02:04] <azureal> dougsko: and i recently deleted *.gnome
[02:04] <dougsko> azureal: yeah i still have a bunch of the libraries and stuff cause i use k3b and amarok
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> azureal: I dindt install KDE, only the half :) I needed to run some kde apps
[02:04] <sahasrara> i've got to go though, wish i could stay for the gui discussion now lol... it was nice chatting, thanks for all the recommendations
[02:04] <azureal> ic
[02:04] <JackONeill> Hey, tonnes of stuff on the gnome panel is linked to nautilus - but i don't have installed cuz it's poop and I use thunar - any way of changing it?
[02:04] <dougsko> azureal: amarok is super sweet btw if anyone hasnt tried it yet
[02:04] <azureal> well, by now you guys can figure out what's left... (what i'm running)
[02:04] <Jack_Sparrow> sahasrara: enjoy
[02:04] <xsimo> see ya sahasrara
[02:04] <sahasrara> thanks
[02:04] <azureal> amarok = blah
[02:04] <fissy> {K}Lubby: http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/
[02:05] <dougsko> azureal: what do you like?
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> azureal: Windows and Nero
[02:05] <xsimo> what was that cheatsheet
[02:05] <xsimo> ??
[02:05] <mcphail> Jack_Sparrow: gnome uses nautilus for the desktop, even if you don't use it as a file browser
[02:05] <dougsko> lol
[02:05] <azureal> Jack_Sparrow, that's on my windows partition, yes, but what WM am i using?
[02:05] <mcphail> Jack_Sparrow: sorry, not for you...
[02:05] <[A] ndy80> hi
[02:05] <Flannel> JackONeill: mcphail's comment was for you
[02:05] <lufis> I've got a pretty low-end, old notebook. Should I consider installing Edgy Eft?
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> mcphail: np
[02:05] <Flannel> lufis: no.  Edgy is still in development
[02:05] <thybo> lufis
[02:05] <thybo> install austrumi
[02:05] <dougsko> azureal: fluxbox?
[02:05] <thybo> or damn small linux
[02:06] <tapo> how an I start hibernate from command line? I am using ion3 window manager...
[02:06] <lufis> Flannel: Well yeah, but I like to be on the cutting edge. 8-)
[02:06] <daishi_> how do i get ff 1.5 in ubuntu breezy?
[02:06] <tapo> an=can
[02:06] <azureal> dougsko, yep =)
[02:06] <Flannel> lufis: no, Edgy is 'not guarenteed to be usable day to day' unstable.
[02:06] <dougsko> azureal: NICE
[02:06] <dougsko> azureal: flux is the bomb
[02:06] <azureal> dougsko, i'm hoping you didnt get there by doing a /whois azureal lol
[02:06] <lufis> Flannel: :-P okay
[02:06] <dougsko> azureal: no, i was just guessing
[02:06] <Flannel> !tell daishi_ about firefox
[02:06] <dougsko> azureal: and i was gonna tell you that's what you outta be using
[02:06] <jaakkos> daishi_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade doesn't do the trick?
[02:06] <dougsko> haha
[02:06] <azureal> fluxbox is definitely very nice
[02:06] <JackONeill> mcphail, that would explain why I have no desktop - but it's not been bothering me
[02:07] <daishi_> jaakkos, nope
[02:07] <dougsko> and it takes like 100 less MB to run
[02:07] <azureal> but i'm constantly on their channel asking a few things here and there
[02:07] <daishi_> i even added the repositorys and such
[02:07] <Flannel> daishi_: ubotu sent you a url, that'll walk you through it
[02:07] <daishi_> thanks Flannel
[02:07] <JackONeill> mcphail, i may put nautilus back for desktop purposes - can I set thunar as the default file manager so things launch that instead of nautilus !?
[02:07] <daishi_> yea i see
[02:07] <[A] ndy80> I've a print server (Netgear PS121) connected to my router, and I'd like to use the shared printer under Ubuntu. I go on printer panel and add a network printer (shared with SMB) but.... what is the correct syntax to use in host ecc...?
[02:07] <dougsko> azureal: they have a channel?
[02:08] <azureal> dougsko: of course, #fluxbox
[02:08] <mcphail> JackONeill: i suspect you will be able to. haven't tried this thouigh.
[02:08] <dougsko> azureal: cool
[02:08] <{K}Lubby> fissy: could you explain to me how to set up the /etc/postfix/main.cf file for my email server?
[02:08] <jcole> i rebuilt the linux-source-2.6.15 package with all kernels w/skipabi=false... i forgot what i'm to do to the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 package when building... do i need to change a version somewhere?
[02:08] <J-_> nice gksudo nautilus icon made =D looks sexy
[02:08] <azureal> dougsko, yea, i was wondering about ways to switch the bg when i click on a style, etc..
[02:09] <dougsko> azureal: yeah, ive been using it for years, but here on my box at work, it wont let me set a bg for some reason, i just get that X server snow
[02:09] <eugman> Is there anyone here who can give me some specific information on the Ubuntu Customization Kit?
[02:09] <dougsko> azureal: i know i have everythign set up right , but whatever, i dont feel like thinking about that now
[02:09] <azureal> dougsko, yea, i've only recently started, really
[02:09] <paotzu> Jack: http://assente.altervista.org/?q=use_thunar_as_default_gnome_file_manager
[02:10] <{K}Lubby> fissy: also, couldn't i just get a .tx domain somehow, since i heard those are free?
[02:10] <dougsko> azureal: the more you use it, the more youll just get pissed when using friends' boxes
[02:10] <paotzu> whoa altervista... how did I get there
[02:10] <fissy> {K}Lubby: do section 2 of this document (except for the gentoo specific 'emerge postfix')
[02:10] <azureal> i had spent too much time failing to configure my wireless w/ gentoo...
[02:10] <fissy> {K}Lubby: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/virt-mail-howto.xml
[02:10] <BHSPitMonkey> ugh
[02:10] <aarohi> i'm installig kubuntu-desktop. kdm configuration wants me to pick between kdm or gdm. i'm not sure as i've not tried them yet and not quite sure of the difference. please suggest what i should pick
[02:10] <BHSPitMonkey> firefox <IP_ADDRESS>, curse you!
[02:10] <melchezedik> uner system i only have the option for 640x400 how do I get more options?
[02:10] <azureal> so i lost lots of time i could've spent playing w/ flux
[02:11] <thybo> chose gdm
[02:11] <thybo> its better :d
[02:11] <thybo> anyone masterize evolution mails?
[02:11] <paotzu> aarohi: you can always go back and change that
[02:11] <aarohi> thybo: what is the difference?
[02:11] <dougsko> To anyone using irssi: check out bitlbee. its real cool
[02:11] <BHSPitMonkey> gnomefreak, see, it did it again, and there wasn't even any flash video involved
[02:11] <thybo> the interface
[02:11] <eugman> Anyone here know how to enable universe repo when making a cd with UCK?
[02:11] <thybo> gnome or kde
[02:11] <J-_> haha first time i attempted to install fluxbox, my machine went a bit err crazy?
[02:11] <thybo> kde is more window like
[02:11] <thybo> and gnome
[02:11] <aarohi> paotzu: what should i pick now? is it just asking me a default between gnome or kde?
[02:11] <BHSPitMonkey> dougsko, the IM tool?
[02:11] <Solver> hi all.
[02:11] <thybo> lighter and swifter
[02:12] <eugman> How can I set my swap back to using my swap partition?
[02:12] <melchezedik> uner system i only have the option for 640x400 how do I get more options?
[02:12] <paotzu> aarohi: no, just which to use for the "login/password," you will still be able to chose your session type
[02:12] <djm62> Ubuntu has proven more reliable than my laptop.  Something deep has died in it, and my stuff isn't backed up.  Can anyone recommend a good way to get personal photos and stuff off it, and also a good OOB experience laptop?
[02:12] <Solver> I'm installing Ubuntu on a friend's laptop.  It's got 256MB and the thing is swapping to buggery during the install (the install spotted a swap space left by a previous installation).  Is that normal?
[02:12] <dougsko> BHSPitMonkey: yeah it pretty uch just lets you use aim and yahoo and jabber, etc in irssi
[02:12] <aarohi> paotzu: thanks
[02:13] <BHSPitMonkey> dougsko, yeah, I have an Instant Messenger client for my PSP that's essentially a bitlbee frontend
[02:13] <melchezedik> under system screen resolution i only have the option for 640x400 how do I get more options?
[02:13] <Solver> It's taken 1 hour to get to the first question in Dapper
[02:13] <OneTruth> djm62: you can try mounting your drive on another machine to see if you can recover your files
[02:13] <{K}Lubby> fissy: for the domain.name thing it would be like lubby.tk or whatever right?
[02:13] <mcphail> djm62: photorec
[02:13] <J-_> hmmm 86mb's in, 6mb out in a day... wonder if there's a memory leak =X
[02:13] <BHSPitMonkey> melchezedik, sounds like you need drivers for your graphics card.
[02:13] <[mX] > uhm.. is there a way to easily revert from edgy to dapper >:)
[02:13] <dougsko> BHSPitMonkey: yeah its pretty slick
[02:13] <fissy> {K}Lubby: don't get a .tk name, they don't work properly for email
[02:14] <BHSPitMonkey> dougsko, I don't see a reason to use it when you don't -have- to, though
[02:14] <djm62> OneTruth: I'm not familiar with laptop drives- if there's a physical way to plug it in, I can do it from a livecd
[02:14] <Solver> Is the dapper install really as heavy as it seems
[02:14] <{K}Lubby> fissy: okay, what do i get then?
[02:14] <melchezedik> bhspitonkey I have drivers
[02:14] <fissy> {K}Lubby: they do weird things to allow them to use pop up advertising on peoples websites
[02:14] <OneTruth> djm62:  well if your laptop wont boot at all the you will need to remove the drive
[02:14] <mcphail> djm62: buy a USB2 2.5" external caddy and slot it in
[02:14] <melchezedik> i have ha this problem before but its been about a year
[02:14] <fissy> {K}Lubby: dyndns
[02:14] <melchezedik> forgot the command
[02:14] <melchezedik> under system screen resolution i only have the option for 640x400 how do I get more options?
[02:14] <djm62> sweet :) that is cheaper than sorting out all the datachaos
[02:14] <{K}Lubby> fissy: okay hold on
[02:14] <paotzu> mX: google apt-get pinning
[02:14] <OneTruth> djm62:  then you need to hook the drive up to a different computer, like mcphail says you can use a USB external drive enclosure
[02:15] <Jack_Sparrow> brb hardware change
[02:15] <djm62> yeah, this machine doesn't even get to POST
[02:15] <{K}Lubby> fissy: okay, so now i put in my ip address, right?
[02:15] <J-_> i just have a 3.5" external hdd case and a 300gb drive =D need to get an enclosure with a fan
[02:15] <[mX] > paotzu: thanks
[02:15] <Solver> So anyone got any thoughts on the Dapper install - it really swaps hard with 256Mb ram?
[02:15] <OneTruth> djm62:  yeah, so as long as your hard drive is ok, than you should be able to recover your data
[02:16] <Walzmyn> ubuntu and kubuntu both use the same repos right?
[02:16] <djm62> crashed without parking the drive heads, but it's ext3 and I'm pretty confident about getting the important stuff
[02:16] <fissy> {K}Lubby: yes, you'll have to tell dyndns your ip address so they know where your computer is. You can find your ip address at www.ipchicken.com
[02:16] <Hobbsee> Walzmyn: yes
[02:16] <mcphail> djm62: if your hard drive has corrupted, use photorec
[02:16] <djm62> mcphail: what is that exactly?
[02:16] <mcphail> djm62: a very good open source data recovery tool
[02:16] <Walzmyn> hobbsee thanks
[02:17] <melchezedik> how do i configure zorg to allow more screen resolution options while in x?
[02:17] <{K}Lubby> fissy: i have my router forward all ports for our ip address to my xp box, but my ubuntu box (which is gonna be the mail server), is hooked up to my xp... so how do i forward all ports from my xp box to my ubuntu box (or do i need to?)
[02:17] <melchezedik> sry xorg
[02:17] <djm62> mcphail: does it need to run on the physical disk or will a dd image do?
[02:17] <neutrinomass> !fixres > melchezedik
[02:17] <mcphail> djm62: not sure about a dd image (but of course you should make a backup dd image before running anything on the physical disk)
[02:17] <J-_> are there any ubuntu flavors that come with fluxbox? or is it just a manual install type deal?
[02:18] <fissy> {K}Lubby: it would be a hell of a lot easier to swap your ubuntu and xp boxes round
[02:18] <BHSPitMonkey> J-_, manual install type of thing
[02:18] <J-_> cool
[02:18] <{K}Lubby> fissy: yeah i guess so... eh whatever im not gonna mess with it now
[02:18] <{K}Lubby> fissy: since im moving in the next week or two, ill figure it out then... maybe swap them around then
[02:19] <J-_> good luck...
[02:19] <{K}Lubby> fissy: oh wait, isn't that what NAT's do?
[02:19] <thybo> any reasons that mp3 work with rythmbox and not caffeine?
[02:19] <J-_> get xmms
[02:19] <J-_> =D
[02:19] <OneTruth> J-_:  what is fluxbox?
[02:19] <BHSPitMonkey> a window manager
[02:19] <J-_> !fluxbox
[02:19] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[02:19] <OneTruth> ahh ok
[02:19] <neutrinomass> thybo: kaffeine should use the xine audio backend, not gstreamer
[02:19] <neutrinomass> thybo: In short, more plugins to install.
[02:19] <djm62> so... that HP/Cpaq nx9020 laptop worked really nicely out of the box, but broke too quickly after the warranty ran out:  can anyone recommend a replacement suitable for one as inept and lazy as me?
[02:19] <neutrinomass> !mp3
[02:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:20] <thybo> lol
[02:20] <thybo> thx
[02:20] <thybo> and
[02:20] <thybo> any idea
[02:20] <neutrinomass> !enter
[02:20] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[02:20] <gorodek> hi, my question isnt ubuntu related, but hopefully someone can help me out. i have a dm-crypt crypted disk and want to permantly decrypt this disk, without temporary copying the data onto another disk. is dd if=/dev/mapper/crypted1 (temporary encrypted virtual disk of sdc) of=/dev/sdc a possible and an adaquate solution? what would you suggest and is there any tutorial out there?  i couldnt find anything about decrypting on google ;(
[02:20] <mcphail> djm62: an extended warranty is worthwhile with any laptop
[02:20] <thybo> of where i can find vlc? i closed it but the music is still going on
[02:20] <fissy> {K}Lubby: yes.. XP isn't very helpful in doing port forwarding in my experience though. You'll have two layers of NAT between your email machine and the internet. it would be a lot easier to have your boxes reversed. or just get a gmail account ;-)
[02:20] <paotzu> J: create a new livecd... flubuntu or somethin
[02:21] <{K}Lubby> fissy: yeah but i feel like making my own email/server? ;O
[02:21] <J-_> haha
[02:21] <djm62> mcphail: a retroactive extended warranty would be even more useful ;) whatever data I've lost, I've gained the data that hardware isn't immortal
[02:21] <BHSPitMonkey> please, don't, J-_ ... the division is already bad enough
[02:21] <fissy> {K}Lubby: maybe you could bridge the connections in XP, and reconfigure your router to forward to the ubuntu box instead
[02:21] <thybo> where can i find vlc? i co
[02:21] <J-_> not that not that smart...yet >=D
[02:21] <mcphail> djm62: you in uk?
[02:21] <melchezedik> nutrinomass thank you but that fix is only for a toshiba satellite laptop an isnt a genral fix for screen resolution options
[02:21] <djm62> aye
[02:21] <BHSPitMonkey> thybo, apt-get install vlc ?
[02:21] <neutrinomass> thybo: Not sure exactly what vlc is .... "killall -9 vlc" will force it to close (and lose any data that is open ... )
[02:22] <{K}Lubby> fissy: yeah i dunno, ill figure it out some other time, bye
[02:22] <melchezedik> i need more options than just 640 400
[02:22] <thybo> where can i find vlc ?i closed it and music is still runing
[02:22] <neutrinomass> melchezedik: Are you sure ?
[02:22] <thybo> lol
[02:22] <mcphail> djm62: there's a catalog of laptops on the linuxemporium site. Don't know how good they are
[02:22] <loopout4> how do install a driver for my wireless card?
[02:22] <neutrinomass> !fixres > neutrinomass
[02:22] <thybo> it will lose my song? :'(
[02:22] <fissy> =.=
[02:22] <soundray> djm62: have you talked to HP about that? If the warranty has only just run out, they might consider your case sympathetically
[02:22] <paotzu> J-_: there is a howto in the ubuntu wiki on doing that
[02:22] <melchezedik> yes
[02:22] <loopout4> how do install a driver for my wireless card? (this is for anyone)
[02:22] <melchezedik> thats where it took me
[02:22] <fissy> very frustrating getting kthxbyed after you've been helping someone do something complicated for half an hour
[02:22] <OneTruth> djm62:  ThinkPad, Dell, Apple are my favs
[02:22] <melchezedik> I have done this fix before I ont remeber how to do it though
[02:23] <thybo> i got a thinkpad x 32 (h)
[02:23] <loopout4> how do install a driver for my wireless card? (this is for anyone)
[02:23] <J-_> paotzu: cool, not going to do it heh, system is working alright right now, don't want to flunk it up
[02:23] <BHSPitMonkey> fissy, what do you mean? there was gratitude in there :)
[02:23] <OneTruth> thybo: thinkpads are sweetr
[02:23] <thybo> loopout what wifi card?
[02:23] <neutrinomass> melchezedik: It's a general guide form what I see ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto . Again, in short all you need is 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' . Before that, make sure you backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file somewhere (if you mess up the configuration you might end up with a graphical display )
[02:23] <OneTruth> thybo: the only complaint I have is the newer ones dont come with a serial port, which is vital for me with cisco switches
[02:23] <loopout4> thybo: it's a d-link G510
[02:24] <neutrinomass> thybo: It won't lose your song, if vlc is a media player (i.e. you will lose any unsaved data, but there's nothing to save when the song is being played )
[02:24] <loopout4> I have a drive that's suppose to work, I think
[02:24] <wasabi_> Trying to get 3d accel working with fglrx.
[02:24] <wasabi_> Says it's using mesa indirect.
[02:24] <paotzu> wasabi_: use aticonfig
[02:24] <wasabi_> /usr/lib/libGL* is fromt he fglrx package.
[02:24] <melchezedik> yeah I went through the reconfigure process a few times an it still kicks me onto 640 400 with no other options isnt there some lspci conf file i need to change
[02:24] <fissy> he didn't quite manage to say thanks
[02:24] <fissy> oh well
[02:24] <loopout4> Thybo: do I need ndisgtk?
[02:24] <J-_> hmm, how hard is it to get 3d acceleration to work?
[02:25] <Dasnipa`> J-_, not hard
[02:26] <jvai> yea, i got a thinkpad t40 1 ghz of ram/ 1.4 mhz off ebay for 820. from a buyer called simplistic cumputers, i'm using it now
[02:26] <OneTruth> nice
[02:26] <djm62> I just want something reasonably built, working with all free drivers, including accelerated Xorg
[02:26] <loopout4> how do install a driver for my wireless card? (this is for anyone)
[02:27] <paotzu> wasabi_: I had problems with that, I ran aticonfig and dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg and explicity selected "fglrx" but then my xorg.conf had the wrong entry for "Screen" in the "DefaultLayout" section so I had to change that
[02:27] <melchezedik> how do i configure xorg to allow more screen resolution options while in x?
[02:27] <soundray> fissy: I know the feeling. But I suggest you examine your motives.
[02:27] <fissy> no teacher wants to teach people who don't want to learn
[02:27] <soundray> fissy: you could tell yourself that you've done a good job helping.
[02:28] <soundray> fissy: people actually being grateful is just sugar on top.
[02:28] <Jack_Sparrow> fissy: or spending half an hour before they say they are running a different distro or a mac or ...
[02:28] <BHSPitMonkey> !wireless
[02:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:28] <BHSPitMonkey> !ndiswrapper
[02:28] <paotzu> I had a tech support job where half of the people were upset every day
[02:28] <BHSPitMonkey> !info ndiswrapper
[02:28] <ubotu> Package ndiswrapper does not exist in dapper
[02:28] <fissy> Gratitude is nice
[02:29] <paotzu> some things I couldn't tell them how to do, like fix their illegally installed software, so they would get more upset
[02:29] <soundray> fissy: indeed, it is a virtue, but don't expect everybody to be blessed with it.
[02:29] <fissy> I'm not here to be free technical support because I have some misguided interest in stopping people using microsoft
[02:29] <fissy> I might start telling people to use exchange ;-)
[02:30] <BHSPitMonkey> loopout4, "sudo apt-get install ndisgtk"
[02:30] <paotzu> oh man stop trolling
[02:30] <fissy> though ironically, i'm sure exchange is harder than a simple linux setup
[02:30] <dougsko> fissy: and Outlook...
[02:30] <soundray> fissy: but if you're in it to receive thanks, you set yourself up for disappointment.
[02:30] <JackONeill> Anyway I can change "iso9660 user,unhide,noauto,ro 0 0" for my cdrom - so i can execute stuff on a cd?
[02:30] <fissy> what do you do it for then?
[02:31] <eugman> What would I type if I wanted to install a deb package at the in the current folder without having to answer any further  prompting
[02:31] <paotzu> JackONeill: add a umask=022
[02:31] <soundray> fissy: good question
[02:31] <fissy> :D
[02:31] <djm62> dpkg -i PACKAGE.deb
[02:31] <dougsko> JackONeill: just look at how your other disks are set up
[02:32] <paotzu> JackONeill: that will set every file to 755, so you can execute everything
[02:32] <BHSPitMonkey> fissy, "hang up", do you mean you were actually on the phone with somebody?
[02:32] <J-_> All I can say is, if i didn't find this channel, or irc for that matter. I wouldn't be on Ubuntu, learning anytthing related to Linux, so I give thanks to the people who've helped me, and who still are =D
[02:32] <fissy> no, I couldn't think of a better term for him yanking the cable out the back of his computer as fast as he could
[02:33] <BHSPitMonkey> J-_, funny, this is one of my least favorite channels ;)
[02:33] <paotzu> maybe he didn't like you
[02:33] <fissy> ty
[02:33] <BHSPitMonkey> not that I don't like the people, I just get overwhelmed by these huge, fast-scrolling channels
[02:33] <dougsko> BHSPitMonkey: what other related channels do you like?
[02:33] <J-_> BHSPitMonkey: nah i've learned a lot of things here, so i like it.
[02:34] <BHSPitMonkey> the first linux channel I ever used (and still do) is #LFD
[02:34] <BHSPitMonkey> people in there are pretty cool/helpful
[02:34] <dougsko> my first distro was kanotix, their channel is real good. very nice people
[02:34] <manuel1258> hola a todos
[02:34] <CalcMaster86> hi all: a question for you--does ubuntu offer any kind of built in firewalls in it? i'm able to ping my router, but can't ping my desktop running windows xp (and vice versa for the xp machine)
[02:34] <manuel1258> alguien habla espaol?
[02:35] <soundray> !es
[02:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:35] <NemesisUK> CalcMaster86, iptables
[02:35] <OneTruth> CalcMaster86: there is a built in firewall
[02:35] <dougsko> CalcMaster86: no firewalls are started automatically
[02:35] <manuel1258> ok gracias
[02:35] <soundray> fissy: I think I know
[02:35] <BHSPitMonkey> CalcMaster86, by default, Ubuntu is completely closed off. there's no firewall program, but you can get one through apt-get
[02:35] <OneTruth> !firewall
[02:35] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[02:35] <loopout4> BHSPitMonkey: that would work if I had a working connection (it's on my other PC) I downloaded the files for ndisgtk
[02:35] <soundray> fissy: I am looking for validation
[02:35] <BHSPitMonkey> oh, that sucks.
[02:36] <OneTruth> tell OneTruth about firewalls
[02:36] <OneTruth> !rell
[02:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about rell - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:36] <OneTruth> !tell
[02:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:36] <BHSPitMonkey> loopout4, I'm in that situation with a few friends I'm trying to install ubuntu on, it's a self-defeating problem
[02:36] <loopout4> BHSPit: I''ve got the ndisgtk files and there dependancies, how do I install all that?
[02:36] <__mikem> OneTRuth don't do that
[02:36] <OneTruth> ubotu:  tell OneTruth about firewalls
[02:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about firewalls - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[02:36] <soundray> !tell OneTruth about firewall
[02:36] <dougsko> loopout4: sudo dpkg -i <package name>
[02:36] <OneTruth> ahh
[02:36] <OneTruth> thats how
[02:36] <OneTruth> :)
[02:36] <OneTruth> __mikem:  do what?
[02:37] <loopout4> doug: i'll try that
[02:37] <BHSPitMonkey> loopout4, do you have their dependencies' dependencies, and so on.. that's what's so tricky about it
[02:37] <CalcMaster86> hmm, ok... then it's got to be something with my router that i'm missing
[02:37] <loopout4> BHS: no I just went one deep
[02:37] <thybo> anyone masterize evolution mail?
[02:37] <paotzu> loopout4: what are you trying to install
[02:37] <__mikem> bot abuse
[02:37] <djm62> thybo: I use it daily? what do you want to know/do?
[02:37] <BHSPitMonkey> loopout4, the solution I've thought of is to bring a laptop (that has a working wifi connection) and share the connection over ethernet, just long enough to get wireless going on the pc
[02:37] <dougsko> loopout4: yeah, a net connections makes it easy like a 2am-er
[02:37] <BHSPitMonkey> I'm not sure if that is doable in your case.
[02:37] <thybo> i have a yahoo acount
[02:38] <OneTruth> __mikem: bot abuse? are you kidding?
[02:38] <soundray> aarohi: were you able to solve your repos problem?