[04:33] <DCGstudios> dafreak, i heard of this problem earlier, and it had something to do with your wpa_supplicant service
[04:33] <Matr|x> i got this error TypeError: Non-hexadecimal digit found
[04:33] <misc--> I read everywhere that it should "just work" but I'm not getting anything
[04:33] <happosade> hornets: ssh-keygen -t rsa && cat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh user@server 'cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys'
[04:33] <bastid_raZor> hornets: for a howto :: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[04:33] <dafreak> DCGstudios, Yeah I thought that might be the cause looking at the wicd files. Problem is that I'm not sure how to fix it. Haven't found anything on google yet either, have any links for me that I might've missed?
[04:34] <hmw> !details | Matr|x
[04:34] <kramer3d> hi, im trying to connect to a WPA2 network but ubuntu 9.10 does not let me choose the encryption method as WPA, only WEP
[04:34] <DCGstudios> dafreak, honestly, i dont think we figured it out earlier either.. i belive he changed his network security to WEP...
[04:34] <Matr|x> ok can i pm u hmw
[04:34] <Matr|x> ?
[04:34] <hmw> please not
[04:34] <hornets> ahm thanks
[04:34] <Matr|x> ok thx
[04:34] <hornets> i'll try the keychain thing first
[04:34] <hornets> if does not work
[04:35] <happosade> kramer3d: what is your wlan's chipset.
[04:35] <hornets> I think I don't have any option
[04:35] <dafreak> The easily crackable WEP? Ugh, no way do I want to do that. Do you think if I used windows drivers via NDiswrapper would have any affect or would it still use the same wpa_supplicant?
[04:35] <kramer3d> happosade, how do I find out?
[04:35] <happosade> hornets: Do you have same username at your local and remote computers
[04:35] <DCGstudios> dafreak, iv heard of slight loss of speed with ndiswrapper but im with you, WEP is very crackable.
[04:36] <happosade> kramer3d: Google your laptop/wlan-card
[04:36] <kramer3d> ok
[04:36] <DCGstudios> dafreak, let me take a look into it real quick ill see what i can find
[04:36] <Zelozelos> what can i use to automatically mount my ntfs file system?
[04:36] <hornets> happosade: yes.
[04:36] <dafreak> thanks DCGstudios
[04:37] <jbuncher> can anyone help me with fixing the plymouth screen on boot in lucid for an nvidia card when the system is running grub 1?  All of the stuff I have found only include instructions for grub 2.
[04:37] <loganhoup> Hi, my wireless is not working in ubuntu 9.10. It will connect and then lose it's connection and usually repeat this again and again. My wireless card is an atheros AR2413
[04:37] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: ntfs-config can add it to your fstab
[04:37] <Zelozelos> bastid_raZor, how do i do it?
[04:37] <happosade> hornets: then there shouldn't be any problems. :)
[04:37] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: install ntfs-config then run it.. it is a GUI application
[04:37] <hmw> happosade the term "websearch" might be somewhat more neutral ;-)
[04:38] <loganhoup> Hi, my wireless is not working in ubuntu 9.10. It will connect and then lose it's connection and usually repeat this again and again. My wireless card is an atheros AR2413. Any help is appreciated.
[04:38] <loganhoup> Hi, my wireless is not working in ubuntu 9.10. It will connect and then lose it's connection and usually repeat this again and again. My wireless card is an atheros AR2413. Any help is appreciated.
[04:38] <happosade> hmw: Oh, I forgot :) (I belive that here in Finland 95% of all websearchs is made with google.)
[04:39] <happosade> kramer3d: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers - Maybe that would say something.
[04:39] <Zelozelos> bastid_raZor, is that the same pgm as "storage device manager" if so last time i used it it caused issues
[04:39] <loganhoup> Hi, my wireless is not working in ubuntu 9.10. It will connect and then lose it's connection and usually repeat this again and again. My wireless card is an atheros AR2413. Any help is appreciated.
[04:39] <DCGstudios> dafreak, this probably isnt the most elegant solution but can you connect with 'iwconfig eth0 ap any'   (of course replace eth0 with whatever interface your using)
[04:39] <hmw> happosade: same here, but someone told me, and I like to not use that company's name
[04:39] <loganhoup> Hi, my wireless is not working in ubuntu 9.10. It will connect and then lose it's connection and usually repeat this again and again. My wireless card is an atheros AR2413. Any help is appreciated.
[04:39] <happosade> !repeat | loganhoup
[04:39] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: no it is a different application.
[04:39] <kramer3d> happosade, i switched to a newer USB wirless thing and it works, i guess my old one doesnt support wpa2 :P thanks for the help
[04:39] <hmw> !patience | loganhoup
[04:39] <kerozene> loganhoup: I am aware of your wireless issue now. thank you
[04:39] <Zelozelos> bastid_raZor, ahhh ok, so apt-get ntfs-config right?
[04:40] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: yes.
[04:40] <dafreak> hmmm ok I'll give that a shot DCGstudios
[04:40] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[04:40] <Zelozelos> awsome, thank you bastid_raZor
[04:41] <DCGstudios> dafreak, please post the result, remember you will not have an IP address until you run 'dhclient eth0' (or whatever interface)
[04:41] <shiznebit_> hi i need some help
[04:41] <happosade> kramer3d: okay, good. Have a nice day. :)
[04:41] <hmw> where is ubottu?
[04:41] <shiznebit_> how do i get a friend to connect to freenode
[04:41] <shiznebit_> if he is in china
[04:41] <happosade> ubottu: ping
[04:41] <bazhang> shiznebit_, please ask in #freenode
[04:42] <Zelozelos> bastid_raZor, is there a way to hide that icon from my desktop?
[04:42] <magn3ts> ~paste
[04:43] <hmw> hmm... happosade - thx. It didnt do the !patience thing
[04:43] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: yes, one sec and i'll give you the way..
[04:43] <haavaros> Hi! I'm trying to create some partitions, but get a long error message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/433661/. What does it mean?
[04:43] <magn3ts> Really? Ubuntu's pastebin is hosted at pastebin.com?
[04:43] <magn3ts> yuck
[04:44] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: gconf-editor goto /apps/nautilus/desktop then uncheck volumes_visible
[04:45] <loganhoup> So since everyone is so aware of it. Any progress?
[04:45] <hmw> haavaros: with what tool are you trying to do that?
[04:45] <Zelozelos> bastid_raZor, oh right on! if i do that it wont show any mounted items right?
[04:45] <kerozene> I'm setting up a web server, wondering what extra package repos are safe to enable
[04:46] <panzer> ok so I am trying to install latest nvidia drivers.  When I hit ctrl+alt+F2 to go to another terminal I don't actually get a terminal.  How can I stop gdm to install the driver?
[04:46] <haavaros> hmw: System > Admin > Disk tool (palimpsest?)
[04:46] <happosade> haavaros: gparted is good tool for that. Remeber to start it whit sudo to have permissions to do things. And be careful.
[04:46] <kerozene> is it ok to use *verse on a production server?
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> panzer:  no consoles on alt-ctrl f1 through f6 either?
[04:46] <panzer> Dr_Willis: neg
[04:46] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: on the desktop, no.. they are still visible in Places menu
[04:47] <Zelozelos> thats perfect, i was looking to do that next thanks for the info bastid_raZor
[04:47] <bastid_raZor> Zelozelos: glad to help.
[04:47] <magn3ts> Can someone explain to me why this happens randomly when I boot sometimes. Sometimes it will happen 6 times in a row. Sometimes it will go two days without doing it. It's incredibly frustrating. I'd rather use Windows 3.1 than use Ubuntu w/o accelerated graphics. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/D8mukTJa
[04:47] <Dr_Willis> panzer:  well if you MUST have the latest drivers.. and want to stop gdm.  Btw, how do I know where the grub is? so I don't overwrite it when deleting partitions
[04:49] <happosade> panzer: or maybe s/stop/restart to start it again.
[04:49] <loganhoup> Hi, my wireless is not working in ubuntu 9.10. It will connect and then lose it's connection and usually repeat this again and again. My wireless card is an atheros AR2413. Any help is appreciated.
[04:49] <FrozenFire> Not all that idle, now are you, IdleOne?
[04:49] <FrozenFire> :P
[04:49] <iDope> guys I have a strange problem. My memory usage is very high and the sum of the memory usage of all my processes is nowhere near the total memory being used according to system monitor and top.
[04:49] <happosade> !grub
[04:49] <hmw> !wifi | Did you already check out these pages? There is a very good troubleshooting guide in there, too
[04:50] <hmw> whats up with ubottu?
[04:50] <kerozene> does anyone use the universe repo on a live webserver?
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  ive noticed that sometimes (often in the last day) when i boot up Nvidia goes into its 'you are running in low res' warning mode. If i just do a 'sudo service gdm restart' from the console it straightens out. I THINK it has somthing to do with GDM not waiting long enough for the Nvidia drivers to get initilized
[04:50] <bastid_raZor> iDope: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/  may explain a bit
[04:50] <happosade> haavaros: By deault you shouldn't do anything for / to avoid mistakes.
[04:50] <panzer> Dr_Willis: neg on that too.  It shows me some logs.  but does not give me a console
[04:50] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, this is a very frustrating new addition to 10.04 :(
[04:51] <happosade> !ping
[04:51] <loganhoup> Hi, my wireless is not working in ubuntu 9.10. It will connect and then lose it's connection and usually repeat this again and again. My wireless card is an atheros AR2413. Any help is appreciated.
[04:51] <iDope> I already did this: echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[04:51] <loganhoup> This place is quite dead tonight.
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  ive had the issue appear, then vanish.. then reappear all during beta. I cant even make it do it on a regular basis.
[04:51] <hmw> loganhoup: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs#Troubleshooting
[04:51] <iDope> so its not disk cache
[04:52] <ChogyDan> !midi
[04:52] <loganhoup> At least that's constructive.
[04:52] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts: there is some delay setting in a gdm config ive heard that Might make it wait a bit longer and stop the issue - I thought i had that # set.. but it may of been reverted in some updates. Im double checking it now
[04:52] <hmw> loganhoup: ubottu seems to be tired today :(
[04:52] <sudobash> where did the button next to the location bar that let you turn the location bar from text to buttons on nautilus in 10.04?
[04:52] <panzer> Dr_Willis: rebooted and got to a console thanks.
[04:52] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, yeah, at first it was almost exactly every other time. Then I've got three days w/ no problems. and I'll be damned if I've had resume from hibernate work with accel or non-accel graphics :(
[04:52] <magn3ts> Surely there must be a way to tell gdm to be more patient
[04:52] <kaushal> hi
[04:52] <kaushal> is there a way to know which version of mysql server is available on 10.04 without installing it ?
[04:53] <hmw> loganhoup: you get what you paid for.
[04:53] <loganhoup> hmw: true
[04:53] <bastid_raZor> kaushal: apt-cache policy packagename or you can look on packages.ubuntu.com
[04:53] <seme> hey guys.. anyone know how to hide join/part messages in empathy?
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:   i never use hibernate/suspend.
[04:53] <mneptok> kaushal: apt-cache show mysql-server
[04:53] <iDope> loganhoup: That happened with me quite a lot when I was on a Wireless-N network with my Intel 5300 AGN card. But that was a known bug in the iwlagn module for intel cards
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  theres a gdm config custome file that has a timeout entry.. but i cant find it now
[04:53] <loganhoup> hmw: canidate for deletion at the top of the wiki is always promising.
[04:53] <ChogyDan> anyone know about midi support and pulseaudio?  is "open /dev/snd/midiC0D0 failed"
[04:54] <mneptok> loganhoup: try a 10.04 live session to see if performance improves in a more recent release?
[04:54] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, any hints :P I'll go looking after this game (Halo reach beta :D)
[04:54] <kerozene> cool, repeat-flooding works
[04:54] <kaushal> bastid_raZor: Thanks a ton
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  /usr/share/gdm/custom.conf ---> 2 lines -> [deamon]   GdmXserverTimeout=30
[04:54] <kaushal> mneptok: Thanks a lot :)
[04:54] <loganhoup> mneptok: I'll attempt downloading it. being tethered to my router is sort of awkward right now.
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  but that may be incorrect.. it dosent seem to be working like it shoudl here.
[04:54]  * kerozene goes to work crafting a repeatable question about which repos to enable for production web servers
[04:55] <mneptok> kaushal: and you *should* be using MariaDB ;)
[04:55] <magn3ts> Dr_Willis, I'll do some investigation. thanks for hte pointer. Its relieving just to know someone else is having difficulties
[04:55] <Nilbus> how can you tell if your wireless is connected via G or N?
[04:55] <happosade> !ping
[04:55] <bazhang> happosade, /msg ubottu please
[04:55] <hmw> omg someone resurrect ubottu
[04:55] <lyhana8> any idea why testdisk tell me there is no reiserfs lib ? I got reiserprogs
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  some docs say to al;ter the /etc/gdm/custome.conf instead..    so it may be not reading that usr/share/gdm/custome.conf file
[04:56] <loganhoup> idope: now it's just quit trying to connect..
[04:56] <Matr|x> hello i have this problem http://pastie.org/961280
[04:56] <hornets> is it bad to run crontab each 5 sec?
[04:56] <hmw> bazhang: he is also making a point with !ping, thus saying that ubottu does not answer, perhaps you know, who we should inform?
[04:56] <iDope> bastid_raZor: Well I have certainly taken cacheing out of the equaiton. I still can't understand why even after clearing the cache its using 1.5GB of RAM
[04:57] <Matr|x> hello i have this problem http://pastie.org/961280
[04:57] <Matr|x> hmw
[04:57] <Matr|x> i paste my problem plz see it
[04:57] <kerozene> does anyone here run ubuntu on a server?
[04:57] <hmw> where can I find ubottu's factoids? It crashed _again_ apparently.
[04:58] <bazhang> hmw, its not necessary to test the bot every few seconds; its under increased load lately so doing that will worsen the situation
[04:58] <kerozene> straw poll: what repos do you enable?
[04:58] <Matr|x> eny help plz http://pastie.org/961280
[04:59] <sudobash> where did the button next to the location bar that let you turn the location bar from text to buttons on nautilus in 10.04?
[04:59] <bastid_raZor> hmw: http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <dbum> hmw:    http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> Matr|x:  give at least a small summary of the problem. along with the paste url.
[04:59] <hmw> Matr|x: I still can't see what you were doing, but in this case, I won't be of much help anyways, I have no clue about python. "Non hexdec digit found" might be some error in the code, or in a config file.
[04:59] <bastid_raZor> hmw:  uh drop the -nl on that
[04:59] <hmw> thanks guys
[04:59] <dafreak> DCGStudios it keeps trying to obtain a dhcp ip address but eventually times out with a No DHCPOFFERS received. This is after doing a sudo iwconfig ap any then a sudo dhclient eth1
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> sudobash:  it got removed i recall. You can get it to toggle with ctrl-l or the / key
[05:00] <Matr|x> may i m u dr_willis
[05:00] <kerozene> server admins: what extra repos are safe to enable?
[05:00] <sudobash> cool thanks
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> Matr|x:  it wont do much good if i dont even know the basics of what the problem is. I dont go to every URL someone posts to read their actual issue.
[05:00] <bastid_raZor> hmw: disregard my post.. it is horribly wrong
[05:00] <greezmunkey> *Old_News* PS3 upgrade to disable ability to load Linux: http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/03/sonys-ps3-update-supercomputer-users/
[05:00] <salil> Can i make the gnome-panel not always on top?
[05:01] <bazhang> greezmunkey, that is offtopic here. try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:01] <theadmin> salil: Auto-hide it...
[05:01] <gartral> got a dell inspiron 9100 with ATI 9700 (9600-m10).. what's the name of the driver? hardware frivers doesnt wanna work
[05:01] <salil> theadmin: But I want it to show, just not show above a maximised window..
[05:02] <greezmunkey> bazhang: agreed, sorry.
[05:02] <kerozene> theadmin: do you run ubuntu servers?
[05:02] <theadmin> salil: Well, there doesn't seem to be a way according to what I'm seeing
[05:02] <hmw> bastid_raZor: heh. :) now i put it on my blog, i will never have to ask again
[05:02] <Alien_Freak> I have an nvidia card with a vga and dvi port.  I'm trying to replace an old monitor (vga) with a new one (dvi) and ubuntu doesn't want to recognize the 2nd one
[05:02] <theadmin> kerozene: huh. Well, I was experimenting with LAMP at home someday
[05:02] <kerozene> theadmin: what repos do you typically enable?
[05:02] <hmw> bazhang: may I PM you about ubottu?
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  when in doubt - only enable the repos for programs you need.
[05:03] <bazhang> hmw, sure
[05:03] <Alien_Freak> I think it defaults to the VGA.... and won't let me change that
[05:03] <magn3ts> Is anyone else having problems with renewing IP addresses after sleep/hibernation in Lucid? This is an unfortunate new problem....
[05:03] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: the issue is about package freshness
[05:03] <theadmin> kerozene: http://paste.ubuntu.com/433666/
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> Packages have a 'best if used by date' now ?
[05:03] <kerozene> theadmin: thanks for the info
[05:03] <wildbat> hi, anyone know where do i set gvfs option? i wanna mount some share upon login and make change the permission setting of the mount. OR how do i umount cifs from fstab be4 network manager shutdown?
[05:04] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: you want me to define 'freshness' in this context?
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  clarifing the problem is proberly a good idea.
[05:04] <kerozene> freshness = how recent a version of the software is packaged in the repo
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> Alien_Freak:  some video cards may not let you do 2 monitors .  Whats the  cards #/version
[05:05] <theadmin> kerozene: naja, latest != best
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  you mean more 'up to date version' then.  and i agree with theadmin
[05:05] <HinHin> =_= just installed Ubuntu 10.04
[05:05] <HinHin> i gotta say this release is pretty crappy.
[05:05] <HinHin> (64bit edition)
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> HinHin:   this is for support not complaints.
[05:05] <Alien_Freak> Dr_Willis, I'm not trying to do 2 monitors.. I want to do 1 monitor.  but use the dvi port instead of the vga one
[05:05] <kerozene> latest != best isn't very informative with respect to where the best balance can be found :)
[05:06] <Alien_Freak> one sec on the card...
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> Alien_Freak:  Hmm. On my 3 nvidia systems. I power off. unplug vga. plug in dvi. and power up and it works.  You may want to check the xorg.conf
[05:06] <theadmin> kerozene: Well i dunno... I compiled latest Nmap from source and it is perfect, dunno why we still have that old version :/
[05:06] <kerozene> obviously there is a tradeoff between features/bugfixes and tested security/stability
[05:06] <HinHin> upon updating the system (clean install) grub-pc locked up
[05:06] <HinHin> is this a common bug?
[05:06] <HinHin> 64bit edition
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> Alien_Freak:  its possible theres some settings in the xorg.conf goofing it up. You could move the xorg.conf to xorg.conf.TESTING  and try restarting X without a xorg.conf
[05:06] <Alien_Freak> yeah... not sure why it wouldn't just pick it up.  If I boot off a live cd it just works
[05:07] <bazhang> HinHin, checked launchpad yet?
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> Alien_Freak:  you DO get at least a bios/post screen on the new monitor?
[05:07] <kerozene> theadmin: yeah, compiling from source is something I want to avoid as much as possible
[05:07] <HinHin> bazhang, yea i have... :\ my problem isn't quite the same
[05:07] <Alien_Freak> Dr_Willis, that worked.  If I nuke the xorg.conf it loads in low rest just fine
[05:07] <HinHin> i left apt-get trying to upgrade grub... it just hangs there
[05:07] <Alien_Freak> but as soon as I run nvidia-xorg and reboot..it gets retarded again
[05:07] <HinHin> the rest of the system is working
[05:07] <bazhang> HinHin, then file an appropriate one
[05:07] <HinHin> sure
[05:08] <kerozene> theadmin: by old, you mean the package in universe?
[05:08] <theadmin> kerozene: Usually sums up to "gzip -d somefile.tar.gz && tar xfjv somefile.tar && cd somefile-folder && ./configure && make && sudo make install", and yeah I mean that
[05:09] <kerozene> I'm not saying compiling is hard, I'm saying it creates blind spots when you're trying to prioritise security
[05:09] <bastid_raZor> theadmin: checkinstall is the preferred method now.. it enables you to remove the application via any package manager
[05:09] <rubyphyte1> for some reason after I upgraded from karmic to lucid my vuze broke...has anyone seen this before...I googled and found some references but no solutions
[05:09] <Matr|x> dr_wiliams
[05:09] <theadmin> bastid_raZor: Well... Indeed, but for some cases make install works just fine (i.e. when you manually specify a prefix, so that you can just delete the folder and tada)
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> Alien_Freak:  perhaps you need to check the xorg.conf the tool makes. for my DVI monitors  they normally default to the proper res.
[05:10] <gartral> rubyphyte1: sudo apt-get purge vuse && sudo apt-get install vuze
[05:10] <salil> theadmin: mehehehe
[05:10] <gartral> s/vuse/vuze
[05:10] <theadmin> salil: ?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> !tab | Matr|x
[05:11] <Matr|x> nothing happend
[05:11] <Matr|x> :)
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> bot is slow.
[05:11] <Matr|x> !tab Dr_Willis>
[05:11] <Matr|x> !tab Dr_Willis
[05:11] <IdleOne> Dr_Willis: bot is experiencing fatigue
[05:11] <Matr|x> :P
[05:11] <gartral> !autocomplete
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> learn to hit the tab key Matr|x  to complete names/commands
[05:11] <bazhang> Matr|x, please stop that
[05:11] <magn3ts> (s)he must be hungover
[05:11] <theadmin> Matr|x: Don't abuse da bot
[05:11] <Matr|x> ok
[05:11] <bazhang> Matr|x, use tab to complete someone's name
[05:11] <theadmin> It's asleep
[05:11] <kerozene> it's a bit scary that nobody here seems to self-identify as a server admin :]
[05:11] <gartral> !botsnack
[05:11] <gartral> hmm
[05:11] <magn3ts> kerozene, are you looking for one
[05:12] <ZykoticK9> rubyphyte1, does vuse use java?  if so are you using sun's java or the openjava?
[05:12] <kerozene> the opinion of one
[05:12] <gartral> !ops | ubbottu
[05:12] <bazhang> gartral, ??
[05:12] <theadmin> gartral: ...wtf
[05:12] <IdleOne> gartral: stop please
[05:12] <rubyphyte1> nope it still doesn'twork same error: sudo apt-get purge vuse && sudo apt-get install vuze
[05:12] <Matr|x> some body help me
[05:12] <bazhang> theadmin, watch the language
[05:12] <gartral> bot is dead
[05:12] <rubyphyte1> Unable to locate swt in /usr/share/java
[05:12] <theadmin> bazhang: Sorry.
[05:12] <mirkso_> df
[05:12] <theadmin> Somebody do something to ubottu, dead bot is not fun
[05:12] <kerozene> magn3ts: what about you?
[05:13] <bazhang> gartral, that is NOT the way to test.  in future /msg ubottu
[05:13] <theadmin> gosh o_O
[05:13] <theadmin> What a lag.
[05:13] <gartral> bazhang: i tested with several commands at first, over both #ubuntu and /msg
[05:14] <theadmin> I have a feeling that the "Preferences" submenu of "System" is no longer gonna fit on my screen in Maverick :/
[05:14] <magn3ts> kerozene, well I run an ubuntu server but I just setup apache and followed a tutorial to setup dovecot and postfix
[05:15] <kerozene> magn3ts: from the default repos?
[05:15] <salil> The CPU frequency scaling monitor applet in gnome-panel has a setting which says "monitoring cpu".. Does this mean that when i change the mode to "powersave", it only changes for one cpu?
[05:15] <IdleOne> theadmin: maverick in #ubuntu+1 please
[05:16] <theadmin> IdleOne: Uh, really? I mean, it's already open for maverick? I mean, we don't even have an Alpha build
[05:16] <ZykoticK9> salah, i believe it is set per-cpu, but i could be wrong
[05:16] <IdleOne> theadmin: yes it is
[05:16] <magn3ts> kerozene, yeah, I may have enabled universe or something, but otherwise its just stock repos.
[05:16] <magn3ts> kerozene, whats bugging you?
[05:17] <cozby> hey, new to Ubuntu.. I just did a system update (it told me I had updates). After doing such, I was no longer able to connect to my wireless AP? But I could connect to not secured just fine....?
[05:17] <cozby> is there a way I can reverse updates, or see a log of what was recently updated?
[05:17] <Matr|x> i dont undrstand
[05:17] <Matr|x> wht u said to me
[05:17] <kerozene> magn3ts: just wanna do the right thing setting up a public server
[05:18] <ZykoticK9> cozby, hold shift as your computer starts and see if booting into an older kernel solves the issue (good for testing anyway)
[05:18] <kerozene> if universe has a history of unpatched vulns I won't bother with it
[05:18] <cozby> ZykoticK9, interesting OK, and if it does, then what?
[05:18] <rubyphyte1> fixed it...had to make it completely remove the package, and I also reinstalled the swt library...not sure which one did it
[05:18] <ZykoticK9> cozby, at least you know where the problem lies to report a bug ;)
[05:18] <cozby> I don't know if they were system updates but there were updates for packages, and security ups too.
[05:18] <kerozene> if the security of packages in universe tends to be good, I'll take it so I get more up-to-date packages
[05:19] <cozby> ZykoticK9, bummer, alright, thx mate
[05:19]  * cozby reebots
[05:19] <cozby> .exit
[05:19] <cozby> er
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  even then  they wont be as uptodate as you may want.
[05:19] <kerozene> but I realise that a security history that is acceptable for the desktop might not be for servers...so I ask here
[05:19] <dafreak> Anybody else have ideas on how to potentially fix my wireless issue with Ubuntu 10.04 LTE? This is on a Sony Vaio laptop, ipw2200 drivers loaded, fails to authenticate witha  WPA2 enabled router. DCGStudios gave me a couple of ideas but no go so far.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> If a package is in Universe.. then i dont think its in other  of the default repos in lower versions..  kerozene  you MAY be thinking of the 'backports' repo.
[05:20] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: sure, so then it's time to get the src. I'm not looking for a binary answer here...just opinions
[05:20] <Alien_Freak> LTE?
[05:20] <salil> The CPU frequency scaling monitor applet in gnome-panel has a setting which says "monitoring cpu".. Does this mean that when i change the mode to "powersave", it only changes for one cpu?
[05:20] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: really? that's interesting
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  thats how the packaging/repos/versions/release cycle works in ubuntu
[05:20] <kerozene> see I'm coming from centos where the default repo has quite stale packages of some software
[05:20] <Viking667> LTE or LTS?
[05:21] <look> what is the picture viewer called on ubuntu 8.04-9.10?
[05:21] <dbum> ZykoticK9: I've always had that problem (same as cozby) with the NDIS wireless wrapper (using windoze drivers) do you know if there is linux drivers for linksys access point?  (WUB11 v.4)
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> salil, (sorry missed your nic last time) i believe it is set per-cpu, but i could be wrong
[05:21] <crdlb> look: eog
[05:21]  * mirkso_
[05:21] <look> serious?
[05:21] <bastid_raZor> salil: you could check this by installing cpufrequtils then running cpufreq-info
[05:21] <ZykoticK9> dbum, sorry no idea
[05:21] <dafreak> sorry LTS guys
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  ubuntu updated every 6 mo to the next release. in theory there should be very few updates btween releases. (just for security issues, not just version changes)
[05:21] <crdlb> look: it stands for eye of gnome
[05:21] <dbum> ZykoticK9 thanx anyway
[05:21] <theadmin> crdlb: eog? End Of Good?
[05:21] <look> crdlb, thanks
[05:21] <theadmin> ah I see.
[05:21] <salil> bastid_raZor: Thanks.. right away..
[05:21] <Alien_Freak> I was like...wow... they got a new spin off?  must download
[05:21] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: I'm on lts (hardy)
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  then if you want updated packages yOu may want to go to the next LTS then
[05:22] <kerozene> does that not affect it?
[05:22] <magn3ts> kerozene, ahhh whatcha running?
[05:22] <kerozene> magn3ts: just lamp, maybe ror
[05:22] <ALBATRUS> CHAT ONLINE www.cyberpunks.ro  CHAT ONLINE  www.cyberpunks.ro  ROMANIAN CHAT
[05:22] <bastid_raZor> salil: you also get the ability to change both with cpufreq-set  .. man cpufreq-set  .. to get more info on howto
[05:22] <ALBATRUS> CHAT ONLINE www.cyberpunks.ro  CHAT ONLINE  www.cyberpunks.ro  ROMANIAN CHAT
[05:22] <FloodBot1> ALBATRUS: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:23] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: next lts available to me is lucid :/
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  and your point is?
[05:23] <kerozene> too new
[05:23] <salil> bastid_raZor: Damn.. It only sets one... Isn't that uncool? I will have to add two of them or just go for a script with cpufreq-set..
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> you just said you were wanting newer.. so  i dont see the problem.
[05:24] <kerozene> no, I said I wanted opinions on the best balance between security and freshness
[05:24] <magn3ts> kerozene, either of those should be veeeery straightforward to setup
[05:24] <magn3ts> just make sure you spend the time setting up ssh/iptables securely
[05:24] <bastid_raZor> salil: i personally have never liked the applet .. i prefer to use cli tools to set it and have conky monitor things
[05:24] <look> crdlb, what is the latest version of eog may i ask?
[05:25] <magn3ts> kerozene, articles.slicehost.com and linode's wiki is very good for getting started with hosting your own server. They are guides for using their VPS service but its the same stuff you'd run on a self hosted box
[05:25] <crdlb> look: same as the rest of gnome, 2.30
[05:25] <look> crdlb, thanx once again
[05:25] <kerozene> magn3ts: thanks but the procedural stuff isn't a problem
[05:25] <kerozene> I'm thinking this is more..cultural :)
[05:26] <kerozene> knowing where the waterholes are in the desert kinda thing
[05:26] <magn3ts> kerozene, lol not sure I understand
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> magn3ts:  you are not the only one with that problem. :)
[05:27] <kerozene> I'm just trying to get a feel for conventional ways of looking at things when running ubuntu, that are different to other distros
[05:27] <kerozene> understanding the differences between repos is part of that
[05:27] <deco> i have UserDir module loaded , /home/foobar/public_html  works but php files are not being parsed
[05:30] <kerozene> I guess I'll just have to set up another server to experiment with
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> virtualbox is handy for experimentation
[05:30] <stiltzkin> hey guys! can anyone help me with a stubborn eSATA ExpressCard?
[05:31] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: yeah, I use that for IE6 testing
[05:31] <stiltzkin> it used to work on Gutsy, on a different laptop. Could never get it to work on 9.10+ or on this computer at all.
[05:32] <stiltzkin> It's a AKE BC338. I've uploaded the relevant portion of my dmesg here: http://pastebin.com/FdLdXi7E
[05:32] <sjd> hi I got a very strange problem now, I'm trying to connect to an ad-hoc wifi connection in another laptop to share internet. But I'm not able to connect when we use WEP encryption even if I give the right passphrase. but its working with no authentication mode. what could be wrong? I'm using ubuntu 9.10
[05:33] <corpse> Im having some problems running certian games.  The same happens with counter strike and counter strike source. I end up having to cold boot. Any ideas as to were i can start to trouble shoot this problem?
[05:33] <kerozene> sjd: so disable WEP, it's worthless anyway
[05:33] <Hopeless8009> can someone PM me a usefull tip about Ubuntu
[05:33] <spO> hi
[05:33] <stiltzkin> sjd: I think the problem is that 9.10 doesn't do hex keys for WEP properly, if you really need to use WEP then google manually feeding the key to iwconfig
[05:34] <Hopeless8009> hi
[05:34] <spO> i need to know how to use find to find all 0 bit files, or empty files
[05:34] <sjd> kerozene: but I presume there would be some crackers around. what to do?
[05:34] <kerozene> use WPA
[05:34] <sjd> stiltzkin: but WEP has been working with other wifi networks on the same laptop.
[05:34] <ogen> this is horrible. My display resolution popped to 800x600 when the computer froze this time. It's a Dell 19" monitor and you'd think I was blind. Please what can I do? The resolution was much bigger (I checked it) before the freeze.
[05:35] <stiltzkin> spO: use the -size switch, I guess with 0 as the argument
[05:35] <stiltzkin> sjd: maybe your other WEP networks used different size keys. I think it's the larger keys it doesn't handle properly. I had this problem a few times. Seriously though, a better solution is to use WPA or no encryption at all. WEP is useless
[05:36] <stiltzkin> can anyone glean anything from my dmesg dump? http://pastebin.com/FdLdXi7E
[05:36] <sjd> stiltzkin: oh. I tried with smaller keys also. Let me try it with WPA then.
[05:37] <iDope> I have run into something extremely weird. My memory usage on an Ubuntu 64bit LiveCD is very believable. around 300-400 MB in all out of my 4GB installed RAM. But when I log into my installed system it's 1.4 GB right from the start. And its not disk cache (I have cleard that multiple times). The troubling part is that the sum of the memory used by all the programs is still around 400 MB, so where is this extra RAM going? Can anyone help me find out?
[05:37] <ogen> computer (AMD Ubuntu 9.10 keeps freezing. This time it was NOT during a video.. but I had seen half a movie in VLC - until the file ran out.
[05:37] <philipjfry> hello! recently upgraded a motherboard and ive got everything working except audio. my searches havent found me anything useful, what should i look for?
[05:37] <salil> bastid_raZor: Is there a similar console app for setting the laptop-screen brightness?
[05:37] <stiltzkin> iDope: where are you looking to see how much memory your programs are taking up?
[05:38] <iDope> stiltzkin: i've used top and gnome-system-monitor, both show around 1.4Gigs
[05:38] <iDope> free -m reports the same
[05:38] <stiltzkin> iDope: is your CPU usage normal?
[05:38] <dbum> philipjfry: Do you have a soundcard and onboard sound??
[05:38] <iDope> stiltzkin: very normal.
[05:39] <iDope> less than 5% each core
[05:39] <stiltzkin> iDope: and you don't have swap configured to use ram or anything weird like that?
[05:39] <philipjfry> no soundcard, just onboard
[05:39] <iDope> stiltzkin: no... no gimmicks.
[05:39] <dbum> philipjfry: oh ok..... I had the wrong device selected and it was driving me nuts.... is it showing up in sound prefs?
[05:40] <stiltzkin> iDope: if it's not showing up in top or free than I really have no idea. At that point I'd be weirded out enough to reinstall. I'll bet someone else can give you a better answer though ;)
[05:40] <philipjfry> dbum, yeah it is
[05:40] <spikeb> hmm, gnome system monitor shows 341MiB for me
[05:40] <bastid_raZor> salil: sorta but its more of editing a file to change the brightness.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=858368
[05:40] <dbum> philipjfry: hum..... don't really know... sorry
[05:40] <LinuxPhreak> I prefer Ubuntu for my work, because I'm most familair with it. I want to dedicate an older computer as firewall. What software would I need to add to Ubuntu to make a computer act as SOHO firewall?
[05:40] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: you mentioned backports - it's not enabled by default but it would seem like a good idea for any server. agree?
[05:40] <iDope> stiltzkin: I am pretty much almost weirded out to that point myself :)
[05:40] <spikeb> backports are a terrible idea for a server
[05:40] <philipjfry> dbum, thanks anywyas
[05:41] <salil> bastid_raZor: Ah thanks for searching.. i thought you would know it right away.. Didn't mean to be a lazy prick..
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  totally depends on your needs. THere might not be many 'server' things backported..  I rarely do 'servers'
[05:41] <kerozene> spikeb: want to elaborate?
[05:41] <bastid_raZor> salil: heh, no worries.. i have decent google-fu
[05:41] <spikeb> kerozene, generally. on a server, you want things to stay as static as possible so less things can go wrong.
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> kerozene:  if you are wanting updated packages. You may as well use the next LTS release. backported stuff is techically not supported by ubuntu (i think)
[05:42] <kerozene> Dr_Willis: interesting point, thx
[05:42] <stiltzkin> does anyone else here have an eSATA ExpressCard working in Linux? Or know how to set one up?
[05:42] <crdlb> iDope: are you looking at the second line of free -m?
[05:42] <eryn_1983> um guys i got SERIOUS problems
[05:42] <bastid_raZor> iDope: can you pastebin your free -m output?
[05:42] <kerozene> spikeb: I thought backports was all about incorporating bugfixes into older packages?
[05:43] <eryn_1983> i was attempting to install kerberos and samaba (AD)  support on my workstation
[05:43] <kerozene> i.e. keeping things as static as possible without leaving gaping holes
[05:43] <spikeb> kerozene, no, backports is for newer versions of packages. bugfixes and security updates come normally.
[05:43] <eryn_1983> i think i backed out properly, but i am still havving issue with files dissappearing or not  being read by applications
[05:43] <kerozene> ok, thx
[05:43] <eryn_1983> for example my irc.conf is not being read by weechat-curses..
[05:43] <philipjfry> dbum! i installed gnome alsa mixer and slid master front up and audio came on.
[05:43] <eryn_1983> its there i can seee it as my user and it looks all fine and dandy
[05:44] <philipjfry> odd this isnt available on sound preferences?
[05:44] <dbum> philipjfry: Awesome!!
[05:44] <kerozene> spikeb: what about enabling universe on servers?
[05:44] <eryn_1983> i dont  got any  idea whats going on.
[05:44] <stiltzkin> seriously guys, this eSATA card is the last remaining piece of hardware I haven't been able to get working with Ubuntu and it's driving me nuts...halp greatly appreciated
[05:44] <Flannel> kerozene: What about universe are you curious about?
[05:44] <iDope> bastid_raZor: http://pastebin.org/238217
[05:44] <eryn_1983> i though its mught be a bad harddrive but then wouldnt it just fail and not  delete file i work on or  not find files or something?
[05:44] <spikeb> kerozene, maybe. i probably would, since it does get updates from the community.
[05:45] <kerozene> Flannel, whether it improves access to up-to-date packages with a reasonable assurance of security/stability testing
[05:45] <philipjfry> thanks dbum, #ubtuntu!
[05:45] <HowardTheDuck> hey
[05:45] <tripelb> this is horrible. My display resolution popped to 800x600 when the computer froze this time. It's a Dell 19" monitor and you'd think I was blind. Please what can I do? The resolution was much bigger (I checked it) before the freeze. I have the scrollback small in xchat but this (for instance) is huge.
[05:45] <HowardTheDuck> what's a good terminal alternate for LXTerminal in Lubuntu
[05:45] <slackster1> Hi, I have a problem.  I just upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04.  I just restarted.  GRUB loading.  -> error: the symbol 'grub_puts_' was not found'  -> grub rescue>  prompt..  Can someone help me with this?
[05:46] <stiltzkin> tripelb: classic problem. Go to a terminal (ctrl+alt+f1), log in, and do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:46] <dbum> slackster1: I used this and it worked like a charm..... even if you haven't installed windoze.....     https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:46] <iDope> bastid_raZor: http://pastebin.org/238217
[05:46] <Flannel> kerozene: There's certainly more packages.  They aren't any more "up-to-date" than the rest of the repository (get frozen just like the rest).  I'd say they're as stable, yes.  Security updates depend a lot on the package, and as an administrator if you're worried, you should look into that package before installing it.
[05:46] <iDope> oops
[05:46] <iDope> sorry
[05:46] <slackster1> dbum: thanks, I'll take a look..
[05:46] <kerozene> righto
[05:47] <kerozene> thanks everyone for your opinions and info :)
[05:47] <DrupalJim> How can i have my dbs backed up to my home personal computer. DO i have to have them backup to a dir on teh comp, and then rsync it to my desktop. or is thre an easier way
[05:47] <dbum> slackster1: it looks long but it should only take about 10 min.    you will be using Grub2 so you can skip most of it
[05:47] <slackster1> dbum: humm.. no live cd here..
[05:47] <DrupalJim> comp = server*
[05:47] <tripelb> stiltzkin, nothing changed.
[05:47] <slackster1> any other method.. I have command promt
[05:48] <stiltzkin> tripelb: you went through the whole configuration and nothing changed? restart your computer
[05:48] <dbum> slackster1: yeah... that's a bummer.... do you have the ISO and a thumb drive?
[05:48] <eryn_1983> no do idea at all besides  failing harddrive?
[05:48] <slackster1> dbum: nope, I'd have to download and it
[05:48] <slackster1> I'll see what I can do with grub rescue promt
[05:48] <tripelb> I did the command you said. then it went back to a prompt. I dont knwo what "going through the whole configuration" means. stiltzkin
[05:49] <stiltzkin> tripelb: it should have taken you through a menu-based configuration
[05:49] <tripelb> stiltzkin, I looked at Display and it had the same limits
[05:49] <tripelb> nope
[05:49] <dbum> slackster1: I don't know if there is a way to do it just from grub rescue> prompt.....  couldn't seem to get anything to work from there
[05:49] <stiltzkin> tripelb: sure you typed it correctly?
[05:49] <stiltzkin> tripelb: with the sudo
[05:49] <zcat[1]> I'd like to upgrade a partition from ext3 to ext4 .. don't really have room for a backup though (movies and shit, not hugely important but I'd rather not just throw them away) .. can this be done or is backup, reformat, restore the only option?
[05:50] <tripelb> I copied and pasted stiltzkin -- yes -- I gave my password. I'll do it again, perhaps mistyped.
[05:50] <spikeb> zcat[1], can be done
[05:50] <slackster1> dbum: ok thanks. I'll have to try to burn the live cd
[05:50] <stiltzkin> zcat[1]: it can be done but you won't get the performance benefits of ext4 from an existing ext3 system
[05:50] <dbum> slackster1: np
[05:50] <tripelb> stiltzkin, this time it didnt ask for my password so it must have been right.
[05:50] <zcat[1]> hmmmm... so probably won't bother until I get another big drive
[05:50] <tripelb> stiltzkin, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:50] <stiltzkin> tripelb: and what does it do? just goes back to the prompt?
[05:50] <tripelb> stiltzkin, right, back to the prompt
[05:51] <zcat[1]> stiltzkin:  so if I upgrade to 'ext4' it won't really be ext4?
[05:51] <stiltzkin> tripelb: that's not good...
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> zcat[1]:  not 'competely'
[05:52] <stiltzkin> zcat[1]: well technically it will be ext4, but upgrading is not the same as making a fresh filesystem. you won't really see the improvements
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> zcat[1]:  In your case you proberly dont even need ext4 - its proberly not going to be that noticable a preformance hit/gain.
[05:52] <stiltzkin> tripelb: try running sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:53] <stiltzkin> tripelb: and then the reconfigure command
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> sudo service gdm stop       <--- proberly a better command to rember.
[05:53] <stiltzkin> Dr_Willis: good point :)
[05:53] <spO> what is a good usenet client besides xnews?
[05:53] <DCGstudios> whats the difference really?
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> spO:  ages ago i used 'pan'
[05:53] <spikeb> pan isn't too bad
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> DCGstudios:  differances in what?
[05:54] <DCGstudios> /etc/init.d/gdm stop    /  service gdm stop
[05:54] <dbum> DCGstudios: nothing
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> DCGstudios:  init is old sysv way that MAY still work.. but it may not in the near future
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> so its best to get in the 'service' habbit
[05:54] <stiltzkin> yeah nothing. service command is newer and easier to remember
[05:55] <DCGstudios> ah okay, just always done it that way wasnt aware it was being changerd.
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> service command has some other neat options also
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> service command has been around for like the last 2 releases
[05:55] <DCGstudios> oh ok ill check out the man page
[05:55] <stiltzkin> Dr_Willis: and /etc/init.d has been around since the stone age
[05:55] <tripelb> stiltzkin, I looked in my notes and for the other monitor I did this (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) but I didnt change anything, just plugged in this other dell with the same resolution.
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> and init.d has been slowly getting trimmed out...  I dident even notice gdm being in init.d lately. (not looked recently)
[05:56] <stiltzkin> tripelb: so you're using a different monitor now?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis>  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2010-04-15 09:51 gdm -> /lib/init/upstart-job*
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> Most init.d scripts seem to now be links to the upstart commands/files
[05:57] <DCGstudios> i guess it is more conivenent then dealing with a directory
[05:57] <dbum> wonder why  sudo service --status-all has so many question marks??
[05:57] <stiltzkin> Dr_Willis: wondering that myself lol
[05:58] <stiltzkin> I mean dbum: wondering that myself lol
[05:58] <dbum> stiltzkin:....haha
[05:58] <tripelb> stiltzkin: now I am in a terminal only mode. LOL I know irssi. what has been done?
[05:58] <DCGstudios> yea like 85%+ are question marks
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> tripelb:  i perfer weechat to irssi these days
[05:58] <spikeb> yup same here DCGstudios
[05:58] <stiltzkin> tripelb: now try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:59] <tripelb> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[05:59] <stiltzkin> tripelb: yep
[05:59] <SDonatas> Do I need Update-manager-Kde package in ubuntu using gnome? For some strange reason I have it installed.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> + => service thats running,  ? = Unknown status ? (perhaps a special service)
[05:59] <tripelb> oops stiltzkin I dont know how to go to a terminal from here.
[05:59] <DCGstudios> what is   -
[05:59] <DCGstudios> lol
[05:59] <stiltzkin> must mean "not running"
[05:59] <spikeb> probably not running
[06:00] <circuitman> cant install drivel in 9.04
[06:00] <dbum> Dr_Willis: I have services that I know are running that have a ?
[06:00] <slackster1> dbum: ok download.. werid thing.. grub rescue> ls (hd0)/   <- unkknow filesystem
[06:00] <slackster1> dbum: and with all disks
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> Sdonatas: not normally no, unless you installed kubuntu then ubuntu-desktop metapackage. Or you installed it drunk ;)
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  sysv services perhaps? or others it cant confifm the status
[06:00] <Dr_Willis>  sudo service --status-all | grep '-'
[06:00] <Dr_Willis>  Hmm that dont work how i wanted. :)
[06:01] <stiltzkin> So...no one's too good with making hardware work? I'm dyin to get this card recognized but I don't know what these dmesg errors are. Says ACPI_SDD failed (AE 0x300a)
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: tried disabling acpi in you kernel?
[06:01] <dbum> slackster1: like I said.... I couldn't get anything good out of grub rescue...... I tried at that for a while too!  seems like it should show something though
[06:01] <DCGstudios> drwillis i tryed greping it and it turned them all red
[06:01] <DCGstudios> but didnt filter them
[06:01] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: ...is that something I should do?
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> DCGstudios:  yea. the color grep is working. :) but not filtering out..
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> sudo service --status-all | grep '\[ - \]'
[06:02] <slackster1> dbum: ah.. ok
[06:02] <circuitman> cant install drivel in 9.04
[06:02] <dbum> Dr_Willis: yeah I figured running sudo would let you see them all.....oh well......not the end of the world
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: if acpi is moaning then try turning it off with boot options, you can always re-enable
[06:02] <circuitman> help me
[06:02] <SDonatas> ActionParsnip: I use Ubuntu 10.04, but also basketnotepad which use KDE runtime, maybe its becouse of this application?
[06:02] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: a little wary of messing with my kernel. and don't I need acpi for lots of other stuff?
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> Sdonatas: maybe its a dep of one of its deps
[06:03] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: here, have a look at the full output here: http://pastebin.com/FdLdXi7E
[06:03] <greezmunkey> Dr_Willis: interestingly enough, asking for the status of a single service points you to: /etc/init.d/winbind {start|stop|restart|force-reload|status} !!
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> service --status-all runs all init scripts, in alphabetical order, with the status command.
[06:03] <tripelb> stiltzkin: xserver-org is not installed and when I tried to install it (apt-get install) it could not be found.
[06:03] <chetnick> anyone use conky? I lost my transparency, i just have black background.
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: its editting /etc/default/grub then running: sudo update-grub ,you don't actually touch the kernel
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> so its returning what the scripts are deciding to print/return
[06:03] <tripelb> This system is sooo "Not ready for prime time"
[06:04] <stiltzkin> chetnick: yeah I use conky. make sure "own_window_transparent yes" is in your .conkyrc
[06:04] <tripelb> I truely miss the simplicity of windows (kaching it costs though)
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> Sdonatas: try removing it in terminal and see what else the system threatens to remove too
[06:04] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: ...why does it involve grub?
[06:04] <greezmunkey> tripelb: wait around 5 months 10.10
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> You dont want to get me started on the HOURS i have wasted in windows trying to do some tasks....
[06:05] <zipper> hi i wanna know how to stop mozilla from crashing constantly
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: because grub loads the kernel. Grub also passes the options to the kernel
[06:05] <tripelb> greezmunkey the grass is always greener in the future.
[06:05] <chetnick> stiltzkin: http://pastebin.com/hqttNtPt it is set to yes. Can you paste to me  your .conkyrc if it is not to much to ask.
[06:05] <mateo> hi
[06:05] <tripelb> right now my computer freezes. and the print is really big. and now I have no gui.
[06:05] <DCGstudios> lol
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> I have some of my old conky rc's at http://drop.io/dr_willis
[06:05] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: and so how does it know to pass -no-acpi or whatever the command is just from me updating grub?
[06:05] <zipper> hi i wanna know how to stop mozilla from crashing constantly!@!@!@!@!?!?!?
[06:06] <greezmunkey> tripelb: sounds like a configuration problem :/
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: it currently gives "quiet splash" but you will need to add one for turning acpi off
[06:06] <chetnick> stiltzkin: such a weird thing, i havent touched configuration, it just started messing up.
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  clarify when it crashes perhaps?
[06:06] <DCGstudios> zipper, can you please be more specific with your problem
[06:06] <Random832> zipper: when is it crashing?
[06:06] <salil> How do you return an error from a bash script?
[06:06] <zipper> Dr_Willis: when i am viewing youtube it crashes after a few mins
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> we dont want to play 20 questions - to get to the real question. :)
[06:06] <Random832> i sometimes have problems with flash videos that i've traced back to some sort of deadlock with pulseaudio
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: most likely acpi=off but websearch to clarify
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> salil:   exit ##   (i think)
[06:06] <DCGstudios> zipper, only when running flash applications?
[06:06] <SDonatas> ActionParsnip: thanks, I will try to sort out this mess
[06:06] <zipper> DCGstudios: yea
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> stop using flash :)
[06:06] <stiltzkin> chetnick: sure, here ya go. mine is only a clock though: http://pastebin.com/dZ0EA3Hn
[06:07] <zipper> Dr_Willis: .... then how do i even watch videos
[06:07] <salil> Dr_Willis: yep worked..
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  youtube can do html5 on chrome/chromium
[06:07] <DCGstudios> zipper, have you tryed another broswer?
[06:07] <zipper> chrome has this flash crash too
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: I use an extra boot option to disable ipv6 here to stop it being used
[06:07] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: isn't there anything else I can try besides messing with boot options? I do not want to bork my install.
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> chrome can do html5. so tell youtube to do html5 when it can
[06:07] <zipper> DCGstudios : chrome has this crappy flash crash too!
[06:07] <cozby> why, why is this happening to me... I was just freaking out how good Ubuntu was, how far linux has come and then it lashed out and burned me
[06:08] <zipper> Dr_Willis: how do i do that?
[06:08] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: this card worked on 9.04 on an HP laptop before. Now I use 10.04 on a Sony VAIO and it doesn't work anymore.
[06:08] <cozby> I was able to connect to my wireless AP no problem
[06:08] <jensoko> happened to me, too cozby
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> zipper:  check  the youtube.com/html5 page
[06:08] <cozby> then for no reason, I'm no longer able to connect
[06:08] <cozby> I even re-installed...
[06:08] <cozby> I'm back after a fresh install
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: its a text file so you won't bork anything. If its bad, boot to recovery root console and delete the option you added. Its not a massive change
[06:08] <jensoko> my bootable usb key worked with 9.10 once, now it hangs
[06:08] <cozby> like... wtf.
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> cozby:  we  dont even rember what your original problem is/was.
[06:09] <sleepy_cat> can i get the version of Ktron game in Hardy for My Koala
[06:09] <ryanrk> anybody know anything about mod_rewrite ?
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin; sure but 9.04 uses a different kernel to 10.04 doesn't it. That's why
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: i'd log a bug too
[06:09] <cozby> Dr_Willis, I wasn't able to connect to my wireless AP, I was right after I installed, then I did a system upgrade
[06:09] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: I have a very particular setup though. Encrypted LVM partitions, etc.  I don't really need them or anything.... just letting you know
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  tell drop.io not me. :)
[06:10] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: true. I tried to find out what module this takes but there's very little information on it
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin; at worst you can boot to livecd and mount it there. Its just one text file it not like you are overhauling anything
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  its working here. --> http://drop.io/dr_willis
[06:10] <dbum> Dr_Willis: I'll send them a snail mail.... just to make sure they get it!!!! ha
[06:10] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: ok. and what's the text file I'm editing again? lol
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzking /etc/default/grub
[06:11] <zipper> DCGstudios: Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package adobe-flashplugin has no installation candidate
[06:11] <jensoko> Installed 9.10 okay to my thinkpad x100e, then upgraded to 10.04. Experienced hang after login, but now my bootable usb key can't boot me into 9.10 to re-install 9.10. Can someone tell me if the bootable usb has some junk from the failed boot I need to delete? Thanks in advance
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: webseach to clarify the option online
[06:11] <DCGstudios> zipper, run 'sudo apt-get update'
[06:11] <DCGstudios> zipper, then try again
[06:12] <zipper> DCGstudios: Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Package adobe-flashplugin is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package adobe-flashplugin has no installation candidate
[06:12] <sleepy_cat> can i get the version of Ktron game in Hardy for My Koala
[06:12] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: is it even possible that this will work without acpi though? I mean acpi had to have been enabled on my old computer when it worked
[06:12] <elky> DCGstudios, are you sure that's the right packagename you're suggesting?
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> Jensoko: if you login as another user is it ok?
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> sleepy_cat:  proberly not very easially.
[06:12] <DCGstudios> zipper, elky, lol at least on my repos. what are you running right now zipper?
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: the error you have relates to it and its a free and simple thing to test
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> sleepy_cat:  theres no ktron in koala? or somthing special about the old one?
[06:12] <dbum> Dr_Willis: same thing for me..... this time I clicked more then download and got the same thing
[06:12] <zipper> DCGstudios: i am running mozilla
[06:13] <elky> DCGstudios i'm still on karmic and i have flashplugin-nonfree
[06:13] <dbum> Dr_Willis: Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete
[06:13] <sleepy_cat> Dr_Willis, there is Ktron in Koala but the Ktron in hardy is much much better
[06:13] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: okay. Well according to Google i'd add "pci=noacpi" to the end of my boot command in /boot/grub/menu.lst. But 10.04 uses Grub 2, which I have no idea how to edit. Doesn't use the menu file anymore
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: boot options exist to make the kernel work on more systems so you can turn off troublesome parts without recompile
[06:13] <DCGstudios> thanks elky,  what version of ubuntu zipper
[06:13] <jensoko> ActionParsnip there are no other users created, and the usb drive itself can't get to the login screen. It hangs at "dbus process (somenumber) terminated at status 1" and "starting init crypto disks"
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  odd.. using Firefox here.
[06:13] <zipper> 10.something lucid
[06:14] <Terabyte> where can i get a live usb of ubuntu?
[06:14] <dbum> Dr_Willis: I'll try from proxy and see
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> Terabyte:  dowload iso file, use unetbootin or similer tool and make one
[06:14] <DCGstudios> zipper, try this. 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer'
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: fine. The file is /etc/default/grub . You add them there.
[06:14] <jensoko> Terabyte: you have to make one. Download your preferred iso and use usb-creator
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: wow this is REAL handholding now: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[06:14] <Terabyte> jensoko should i do this from within an ubuntu environment or from windows?
[06:15] <zipper> DCGstudios: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[06:15] <Terabyte> i don't have one installed, could i do it from a live cd env?
[06:15] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: hahahaha I know how to edit a file :P
[06:15] <jensoko> Terabyte: directions here http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-kubuntu-810-install-via-usb-creator/
[06:15] <hoonteke> what's the trick to make gnome menu items editable by just putting my mouse over then then typing something?  I can't seem to track that down via google?
[06:15] <zipper> DCGstudios: eading state information... Done flashplugin-installer is already the newest version. The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   linux-headers-2.6.32-21 linux-headers-2.6.32-21-generic Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded.
[06:15] <Terabyte> thanks
[06:15] <jensoko> Terabyte there are directions to do it from Windows, too
[06:15] <DCGstudios> zipper,  'sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer'
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> Stitzkin: find the line with "splash quiet" and change it to "splash quiet pci=noacpi"
[06:15] <Terabyte> brilliant: http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/releases/kubuntu/8.10/kubuntu-8.10-desktop-i386.iso
[06:15] <Terabyte> broken, typical
[06:15] <DCGstudios> zipper, then try it out and see if it crashes
[06:15] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: am I adding the line to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX?
[06:15] <jensoko> Terabyte: 8.10 is an old release
[06:16] <Terabyte> ok i'll find the latest then
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: save the file, close gedit then run: sudo update-grub ,then reboot
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  i recall adding a line to some .gtkrc file or similer.  the rox-filer file manager supports that also. I always  check its help/info to rember the file. :) let me double check
[06:16] <jensoko> Terabyte: go to www.ubuntu.com or kubuntu.org
[06:16] <Terabyte> ok thanks
[06:16] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: there's not GUI option anywhere?  that's ... frustrating.  not so much for me, but for people like my aging parents.
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: I have just given you precise to the highest degree. Read my messages aimed at you
[06:16] <hoonteke> sigh.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  adding this line to ~/.gtkrc-2.0:
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> gtk-can-change-accels = 1
[06:16] <jensoko> Terabyte: have fun with it! :)
[06:17] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: muchas gracias
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  most people dont want to be changing the things anyway. We had a guy n here the other day that accidently changed F1 to be 'q'
[06:17] <dbum> Dr_Willis: yeah... that's a no go for me..... even through a proxy..... no sweat though.... I was just curios what pimptastic conkiness you had
[06:17] <hoonteke> heh
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  not much really :) just some things i worked on.. and no longer use.
[06:17] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: is there another place to set that?
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Hoonteke: there are still features without guis. If you don't use gui so much you will learn how the system works a little
[06:18] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: sorry for not understanding right away...could have just said LINUX_DEFAULT...sheesh :/
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  from the rox-filer docs -> 1) using an XSettings manager, such as ROX-Session or gnome-settings-daemon, or
[06:18] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: one the computer where that functionality works, I don't have that file.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  so other then that - no idea.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke: mist be somthing with gnome-settings-deamon then
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: I'm on a phone on the way to work so I can't verify
[06:18] <hoonteke> ActionParsnip: I know.  It's when I use the GUI as for my folks, that's when I have questions.  ;-)
[06:18] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: it's all good
[06:18] <hoonteke> I'm a CLI man.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> User-definable shortcuts are disabled by default in Gtk2,
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> stiltzkin: that's why I described the line so exactly instead
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> Hoonteke: could make scripts for them
[06:19] <Guest41429> Why is it that when I sometime enter  command in the terminal, the next line won't have my username and won't accept any more commands?
[06:19] <Guest41429> sometimes
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  --> You need to set the gconf entry : desktop / gnome / interface /
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> can_change_accels .
[06:19] <hoonteke> ActionParsnip: no, not really an option.  I need to set this bit for them personally.  It's just a hassle, that's all.
[06:19] <DCGstudios> did you end it with \  ?
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: I described it so you would find the line based on my description as there is only one line like that. Simple
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  google is handy toda for me :)
[06:20] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: just trying to make sure I edit the right line. this is an important system
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  reading at ---> http://forum.soft32.com/linux2/Changing-shortcuts-ftopict279239.html
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> Hoonteke: gotcha
[06:20] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: :-)  Trust me, I did my homework, just not successfully.  Some days I have better google-fu than others.  Today, you are my savior.  thank you.
[06:20] <jensoko> ActionParsnip: My bootable usb can get to the Language menu and the initial menu. If I select the first menu item that lets me run kubuntu from the usb disk, it hangs at this "starting init crypto disks" line - I can't get to the login screen to reinstall 9.10
[06:20] <Guest41429> DCGstudios no?
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: I couldn't see where you could go wrong but you are on the way. I gotta jet
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  about the only apps i use the feature in is gimp and rox-filer
[06:21] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help! see ya
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> Jensoko; do you use encryptfs?
[06:21] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: for me, it's getting rid of the damn default F1 = Gnome help.  Especially on Thinkpads, where the Esc key is not in the right place
[06:21] <jensoko> ActionParsnip: I didn't to my knowledge
[06:21] <hoonteke> so I hit escape three times, and 10 seconds later, 3 "helpful" windows pop up.  really damned annoying.
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> heh - and no one ever tries F1 to actually read the docs.... they always hit it by accident...
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: that's why I was saying its easy.  Changed to it earlier to watch a movie. then system froze. On reboot resolution set lower (thus big text) and no higher resolution available. -- so xserver-org was not installed and when I tried could not be found. Synaptic doesnt show it but does show xserver-org-dev and a host of xserver-org-video...
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> Jensoko: ok then not sure. I gotta shoot
[06:22] <jensoko> ActionParsnip: I booted & installed 9.10 successfully, then upgraded to 10.04, but the upgrade wouldn't restart. I'm just trying to recover to 9.10 or reinstall 9.10, and the usb no longer seems to be able to boot. Thnanks anywya
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: no backup == data is not important to you
[06:22] <AussieBushRoo> register johndoeblow<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:23] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: drives fail. Data corrupts
[06:23] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: I never said I didn't have backups
[06:23] <Alth_> forgot the / AussieBushRoo
[06:24] <somesh> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/X0Tkq6n8
[06:24] <somesh> cpan -i is not working
[06:25] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: yeah, the help tool ... is a good idea, but it's not well implemented, or very useful, as far as I can tell.  It suffers from the same thing that Wikipedia does: when explaining a concept, it links to unrelated articles.  Like an article that references alternative rock, linking to "alternative" and "rock".  The gnome help does that as well.
[06:25] <stiltzkin> restarting to try new grub cfg, brb
[06:25] <dbum> somesh: did you ./configure   ?
[06:25] <AussieBushRoo> register johndoeblow<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:26] <ogen> well I might just go to sleep since my helper had to quit
[06:26] <ogen> AussieBushRoo can you hear me? you have to start the line with a SLASH
[06:26] <ogen> aussiebushroo this is a slash /
[06:26] <Alth_> anyone want to answer my question?
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> Ogen: that's a switch
[06:27] <DCGstudios> whats your question?
[06:27] <ogen> Alth_ you have to ask it before we know.
[06:27] <Alth_> If I do "grep -r something /somewhere" for example then I can't enter commands after the results
[06:27] <Darchilde> Hi
[06:27] <Alth_> my name/machine doesnt show
[06:27] <ogen> ActionParsnip, hes doing a register and forgot the leading slash
[06:27] <ogen> its a token that tells irc it's a command
[06:28] <ogen> isnt it?
[06:28] <douglas> im havving troubble mounting my sd card
[06:28] <Alth_> I can enter things but, they'll only be printed, and won't have any effect
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Alth_: yes because the grep works in the foreground. Open a new terminal or use screen
[06:28] <ogen> anyway, good night dear ones.
[06:28] <Alth_> thanks ActionParsnip
[06:28] <DCGstudios> Alth_ what are you trying to figure out? thats not really the correct syntax for a grep command
[06:28] <Alth_> It was just an example
[06:28] <douglas> its not being discovered, my sd card
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Ogen: yes but the character is a switch as it switches to command mode ;)
[06:28] <Alth_> That's all I needed to knwo thankyou
[06:29] <Alth_> know*
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> Alth_: if you put an ampersand on the end it will be backgrounded
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> Alth_: so grep -r something /somewhere > $HOME/out.txt &
[06:30] <Viking667> Anyone played the new "offering" from steam?
[06:30] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis, ActionParsnip: time for a harder question: is there any known trick to getting headphones to work when they don't?  On one machine they just work: headphones in = main speaker off, and headphones receive sound instead.  On another machine, plug in headphones and main speaker turns off, but no sound comes from the earphones.  (Both are runnig the exact same setup, but the hardware is different.)
[06:30] <douglas> excuse me, i cant see my sd card when i plug it in
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> Alth_: will run the command and the prompt will tell you when the command finishes and you can read the file with less, freeing up the terminal :)
[06:30] <Alth_> Thanks again.
[06:31] <douglas> :(
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  i see similer questions to that asked in here all the time. nevers een a 'defacto' answer.  You may want to check the forums.
[06:31] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: back. Booted fine with acpi=off, but now I get absolutely nothing when I plug in the card. No dmesg output at all
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Hoonteke: I'm useless with sound issues. Sound has never been a problem here
[06:31] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: heh, been there _all_ night.  oh well.  was worth a try.  thanks.
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  it may be very much chipset dependant
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: ok then undo what you did. Simple huh
[06:31] <douglas> help?
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  the jackd service might help with it also
[06:32] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: sure I guess. any idea what the actual problem is though?
[06:32] <douglas> i cant see my sd card when i plug it in
[06:32] <hoonteke> Dr_Willis: oh, it definitely is.  We had Daniel Chen come talk to our LUG about all the sound issues in Linux about 6 months ago.  That's /exactly/ the issue: non-standard hardware interactions.
[06:32] <douglas> how can i fix this?
[06:32] <ogen> ActionParsnip, thanks for the words. I need to find a thing to read to learn more with clarity.
[06:32] <douglas> lol
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: if I knew that i'd give the exact answer rather than stuff to try
[06:32] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: gotcha :)
[06:32] <jacomo83> hi, how can I know temperature of my cpu and video card? thanks
[06:33] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: anything else I can try? I've got no leads
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> hoonteke:  sound card makers deciding to have ports that can change  what they do on the fly.. dosent help a lot either :)
[06:33] <greezmunkey> douglas: you can look through this, it may help: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-to-mount-sd-card-on-ubuntu-536646/
[06:33] <hoonteke> groan, agreed, Dr_Willis.
[06:33] <hoonteke> alright, thanks for the help
[06:33] <hoonteke> it's time for bed for me
[06:33] <hoonteke> g'night
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: try running: lspci ,some ricoh card readers need certain modules to be loaded. Maybe your system isn't loading one needed
[06:33] <FloodBot1> hoonteke: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:33] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: ActionParsnip: nothing ever shows up in lspci, lshw, etc
[06:33] <hoonteke> Hah, thanks FloodBot1
[06:33] <stiltzkin> stiltzkin: that's how come I can't determine which module it requires
[06:34] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: that's how come I can't determine which module it requires
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: does the reader present itself in the dmesg output
[06:34] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: not with acpi off
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: ok then use the dmesg output identifying the reader in dmesg when acpi is on to find guides
[06:35] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: that was the pastebin I gave you. I looked up all of those errors, none of them are specific to this card
[06:35] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: i.e. I got lots of pages referring to sound cards, hard drives, webcams, various other hardware that produces the same errors
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> Douglas: does the partition show in the output of: sudo fdisk -l ?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: my connection is dog slow. Loading any page takes ages so I can't read it
[06:36] <panzer> I just mounted a new drive to my 10.04 install.  I have the icon showing up on the desktop.  How can I get rid of it?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: read the output and find lines to throw at bing/jeeves/google/whatever
[06:37] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: that's okay. maybe someone else can help?
[06:37] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: that's what I've been doing...haven't got anywhere
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> Panzer: you mount partitions, not drives. There is a setting in gconf someplace. Possibly relating to nautilus as it draws the icons
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> Panzer: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/hide-removable-drive-icons-from-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> Panzer: hope that helps howtogeek is usually good but I didn't check the content
[06:40] <MindVirus> My uptime hovers at around 1.0 -- even when idle.
[06:40] <MindVirus> Why?
[06:40] <MindVirus> I mean load average.
[06:40] <stiltzkin> can anyone else help me with this eSATA card? I'm pretty stuck
[06:40] <cocontmi> hi all.. any recommended video editors?
[06:40] <MindVirus> cocontmi: Pitivi.
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> !videoedit
[06:40] <stiltzkin> cocontmi: and Avidemux
[06:41] <cocontmi> thnks! MindVirus... am installing now.. is it buggy.. i had kdenlive once.. good but buggy
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Cocontmi: kino too
[06:41] <MindVirus> cocontmi: I don't know but I don't think so.
[06:41] <MindVirus> cocontmi: It comes with Ubuntu standard so it must be stable.
[06:41] <cocontmi> well. thanks all. i will try those.
[06:41] <slackster1> dbum: I'm getting different output with "mount | tail -1" than show on that page
[06:42] <slackster1> can someone help me to restore grub
[06:42] <slackster1> ?
[06:42] <cocontmi> wow.. MindVirus.. pitivi is new; can't believe it comes w/ubuntu now.
[06:42] <cocontmi> cool
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> Slackster1: boot to livecd. The ubuntu grub2 doc will guide from there
[06:42] <cocontmi> still have jaunty now
[06:42] <dbum> slackster1 did you make sure you clicked your drive in the Places menu.....(mount the drive)
[06:42] <slackster1> ActionParsnip: ok.. booted.. let me find the doc
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> !grub2 | slackser1
[06:44] <slackster1> dbum: that would be the problem...
[06:44] <dbum> slackster1: I did the same thing..... followed by a bunch of potty mouth
[06:44] <slackster1> lol
[06:46] <stiltzkin> guys, this is the card I'm trying to get to work: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-AKE-ExpressCard-Express-SATA-eSATA-Card-BC338-/350296717129?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item518f4fb749
[06:47] <Viking667> heh. Might look up that Grub2 - I have to tweak something on a brand-new install of Xubuntu.
[06:47] <jayphill89> is there a name for the "hardware drivers" application so that other distros can use it
[06:47] <slackster1> dbum: am I sure I want to install to sda?
[06:48] <magn3ts> Jordan_U, you around?
[06:48] <slackster1> sda1 is my windows drive
[06:48] <dbum> if that is your partition with mbr.  i would follow the directions to make sure
[06:49] <slackster1> looks like sdc is the linux one
[06:49] <klli_14> Why K3B does not use RAM from system ? From the best burners on Windows is Nero which use about 400 MB from system(when starts to burn). It use something like buffer ? This is something bad or good ?
[06:49] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: did you check compatibility before purchase?
[06:49] <olskolirc> what is a good firewall for ubuntu where we can see the ip address of the intruder a good read out please?
[06:49] <dbum> i think there is a way to check on that page
[06:49] <slackster1> ok
[06:49] <hornets> happosade: I did the script!
[06:49] <hornets> it worked like a charm lol
[06:49] <hornets> it could be improved.. but anyway
[06:50] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: I did. The driver CD was supposed to include Linux drivers
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Klli_14: have you enabled a buffer in the burn options?
[06:50] <klli_14> ActionParsnip: no ? it is important ?
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: have you checked the manufacturers site for drivers too?
[06:50] <enav> i need a little orientation  this article http://is.gd/c9lXs  have several times this "chroot()"   what is that is a function???
[06:50] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: I'm actually looking at the driver CD right now. It's very confusing though, because it includes drivers for 5 or 6 other devices
[06:50] <blankthemuffin> I'm wondering how to add to the system's path globally, like including when using sudo.
[06:51] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: I don't think AKE has a website. It's an obscure Chinese manufacturer. I'll check though
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> Klli_14: makes life smoother. Its like cache on a harddrive
[06:51] <klli_14> ActionParsnip: ok now im buring a dvd. after that i will look for it. thanks!
[06:52] <livingdaylight> i need to install ssh from synaptic in order to make two ubuntu computers speak over a network?
[06:52] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: actually they do have a website: http://www.ake-electronics.com/sdp/1066296/4/pl-5151972/0/Product_Catalog.html but the card is not in their product catalog
[06:52] <enav> livingdaylight what do you want to do specifically
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Blankthemuffin: export PATH=$PATH:/folder/to/add
[06:53] <livingdaylight> enav, I want to transfer some files from Desktop to laptop
[06:53] <ogen> I've had to reboot 3 times tonight because the computer freezes. (Ubuntu 9.10 AMD)
[06:53] <piju> ogen, freeze ?
[06:53] <enav> livingdaylight  there is several ways to do that
[06:53] <blankthemuffin> Yeah that doesn't really work for what I want ActionParsnip
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: have you checked the cd?
[06:54] <livingdaylight> enav, instead of using a usb flash drive to physically move files I thought I should be able to do so directly over the network
[06:54] <enav> livingdaylight  you can do it normally using samba protocol to share folder over your network
[06:54] <blankthemuffin> I want it persistent and fully global. ie I want to affect the path for all users, root via sudo included.
[06:54] <livingdaylight> enav, samba or ssh I heard. For Ubuntu I heard ssh is better?
[06:54] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: yes. contains a .exe, a .sys, and a .pdr file. No instructions. The chipset is the name of the file folder though - JMicron JM20337
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> Blankthemuffin: you wanted to "add to the system's path globally" that's how you add to $PATH
[06:54] <enav> livingdaylight  if you samba is like windows sharing
[06:55] <ActionParsnip> Stiltzkin: find guides for that chip then.
[06:55] <slackster1> dbum: found the problem.. Grub was installed on my windows drive before.. when upgrading.. I specified the linux drive.. and just now did the same thing... got the same error now..but changed boot disk priority, and all is well.  :)  Thanks
[06:55] <stiltzkin> ActionParsnip: I have. Still gets me nowhere. I'm still reading though
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> Blankthemuffin: I see. I believe its /etc/profile
[06:56] <slackster1> dbum: looks like that's all I would have had to do in the first place.. lol
[06:56] <blankthemuffin> yes but you're not understanding the rest of my question ActionParsnip. running export xxx only affects the current terminal instance, and putting it in bash.rc does not effect the environment when using sudo
[06:56] <enav> livingdaylight sorry i repeat:   samba is like windows sharing service to share folders and printer
[06:56] <dbum> slackster1: sounds about right..... glad to help..... if you call it that....
[06:56] <livingdaylight> enav, but I'm sharing two Ubuntu machines
[06:57] <livingdaylight> my question is: do I need to install ssh or is it already part of the system by default
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Blankthemuffin: if you add it in .bashrc it will be in every terminal for that user and should be used with sudo. Unless you are using: sudo -i
[06:57] <enav> livingdaylight  SSH is a especial service to connect 2 computer securely over an encrypted connection
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> Blankthemuffin: let me hunt a little
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. normal 'sudo whatever' does not seem to use my default users path.
[06:57] <blankthemuffin> it's the other way around, it won't affect it unless you use sudo -i
[06:57] <timClicks> have there been any critical bugs upgrading 9.10 > 10.04?
[06:57] <enav> livingdaylight you perfectly can move files to other computers using SSH
[06:58] <Zorge> critical, hmm, more just annoying bugs for me
[06:58] <enav> livingdaylight  tell em what do you want Samba or SSH???
[06:58] <Zorge> like my eee PC's monitor on/off button doesn't work in 10.04 but worked in 9.10
[06:58] <livingdaylight> enav, I dont care... I thought ssh is all I needed. You want me to use samba? you keep talking about it. I just keep asking whether I need to install ssh to make it possible
[06:58] <ActionParsnip> Blankthemuffin: yeah global path is in /etc/profile
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> I recall ages ago tweaking the root/.bashrc and  a few other files to get it to use the same as my users path/ and users /home/bubba/bin
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> but i was wanting root to beable to use  my custome scripts in /home/willis/bin  So thats a little different then  the system path
[06:59] <enav> livingdaylight ok ssh client is by default on desktop edition server need to be installes
[06:59] <slackster1> dbum: you lead me down the path to find out. :)
[06:59] <slackster1> thanks
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> Blankthemuffin: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-969.html
[06:59] <dbum> Zorge: How does 10.04 run on the eee? you using netbook remix?
[07:00] <klli_14> I was writing a dvd with K3B on gnome Ubuntu 10.04. I close the K3B it ask about "removed sound devces" .What i have to answer for it ?
[07:00] <hmw> blankthemuffin: ActionParsnip: i just issued     grep -r PATH= /etc/* | grep -v "Binary file"    to find the location. I am not sure, where it gets set initially, but what about /etc/login.defs - methings ENV_PATH there is the thing for global? If not, why?
[07:00] <Voziv> Hello, I'm getting an odd error compiling... about languages.... is there a way to specify languages  like en_us when using cmake
[07:00] <livingdaylight> can someone explain difference between file sharing using Samba or SSH ?
[07:00] <enav> livingdaylight i recomend you to use filezilla to manage your files
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  ssh has a great many features. file transfering is one of them.
[07:00] <dbum> slackster1: where were you when I was going through that crap?? ha .... well now @ least I have a upgraded Live coaster!
[07:01] <livingdaylight> enav, who is filezilla?
[07:01] <enav> livingdaylight  SSH is an encrypted connection  Samba is a sharing folder protocol
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> Timclicks: pretty much identical here as I use old school methods which I know work rather than all this automagic rubbish :)
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  you can use ssh and winscp to get files back/forth from a linux box  to a windows box.
[07:01] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis, I see. At the moment I have two Ubuntu machines but its useful to know
[07:01] <Viking667> hah. I had to download my live CD, get it onto a USB stick, put vmlinuz and initrd from it into a tftpboot directory, shove the USB stick into a slot onto the target machine, and make the machine boot up over PXE.
[07:02] <Viking667> The install worked, finally.
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  you may want to use sshfs, or learn about 'scp' then
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  ssh is worth learning.
[07:02] <enav> livingdaylight filezilla is a little program that will help you to copy and move files using a SSh connection
[07:02] <Viking667> ... and now the machine in question is playing host to a Cafe World.
[07:02] <Voziv> Can you even specify languages for cmake? o.O
[07:02] <klli_14> I was writing a dvd with K3B on gnome Ubuntu 10.04. I close the K3B it ask about "removed sound devces" .What i have to answer for it ?
[07:02] <livingdaylight> enav, in synaptic?
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: awesome :)
[07:02] <enav> livingdaylight  yes for sure
[07:02] <enav> livingdaylight synptic or software centre
[07:02] <livingdaylight> Dr_Willis, where do I learn about scp?
[07:03]  * Viking667 nods
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  theres books written on ssh and its related tools like scp.
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> !ssh
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> !scp
[07:03] <hmw> !man | livingdaylight
[07:03] <blankthemuffin> /etc/environment is actually where it should be played with I believe ActionParsnip
[07:03] <livingdaylight> enav, filezila is better than working from Places>Networking and doing it that way?
[07:03] <hmw> livingdaylight: man scp in your case
[07:03] <Viking667> Oh. Something weird - openssh-server wasn't installed from the get-go, neither was vim or ncftp3
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  scp is designed to work almost like the cp command. only over a network :)
[07:04]  * ActionParsnip still thinks the command "man woman" is funny
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> livingdaylight:  scp foo  willis@server:/home/willis/theplace
[07:04] <Viking667> Dr_Willis: don't forget the "Without being spied on" bit.
[07:04] <enav> livingdaylight is somthing like that  but is an especial way to connect to anoter computer
[07:04] <klli_14> I was writing a dvd with K3B on gnome Ubuntu 10.04. I close the K3B it ask about "removed sound devces" .What i have to answer for it ?
[07:04] <livingdaylight> so many ways to do the same thing: its confusing
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> klli_14:  answer no and see what happens? ive never noticed it asking that here.
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> Viking667: openssh-server is optional so won't be installed on desktop systems. Few services = more security
[07:05] <enav> livingdaylight samba use nautilus to manage your files between computer....
[07:05] <Viking667> mmm. same idea (in principle) as OpenBSD
[07:05] <klli_14> Dr_Willis: why it asking now about sound devices. i dont change anything about my sound devices now ?
[07:06] <klli_14> Dr_Willis: i think the system is damaged ?!
[07:06] <Viking667> What puzzled me more was the lack of vim. I had vi, of course...
[07:06] <enav> livingdaylight but Filezilla or FTP manager  help you to See and manage files over a SSH connection
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> Klli_14: did you burn an audio cd?
[07:06] <jbuncher> can anyone help me with fixing the plymouth screen on boot in lucid for an nvidia card when the system is running grub 1?  All of the stuff I have found only include instructions for grub 2.
[07:06] <hmw> Lol ActionParsnip
[07:07] <Zorge> dbum: 10.04 has been running fine, I'm quite enjoying the restart times (running an SSD, maybe a bit overkill but meh).  Been experiencing less problems than I had with 9.10, only, still get random software closing on me such as xchat and empathy chat (either specific contacts or entire program)
[07:07] <hmw> (man woman)
[07:07] <klli_14> ActionParsnip: no but data dvd.
[07:07] <livingdaylight> enav, in past i remember using ssh and navigating using nautilus also?
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Hmw: its immature but still good
[07:07] <livingdaylight> enav, I have installed Filezilla, now what?
[07:07] <klli_14> ActionParsnip: even i open a music when i burn...
[07:07] <hmw> omg i am to old to lol at this, but i did
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> klli_14:  or you are worrining about nothing..
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> Jbuncher: do you get a black screen at boot
[07:07] <enav> livingdaylight maybe is possible  but i didn't  try it before
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Klli_14: seems its part of the software and are temporary
[07:08] <dbum> Zorge: so I'm guessing no netbook remix then huh?   I'm using 9.10 netbook remix and it sux..... to hard to navigate around.....I'm used to having a desktop
[07:08] <jbuncher> ActionParsnip, yes, so I'm pretty sure i can fix that by using the "framebuffer" fix, I just need to know how to fix the resolution via grub 1
[07:08] <enav> livingdaylight open a private chat box if you want to talk about this
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  its all a matter of what you are used to.
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  my wife finds the netbook interface easier
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Jbuncher: I have a fix. Gimme a sec
[07:08] <klli_14> ActionParsnip & Dr_Willis: : ok thank  you so much!
[07:08] <stiltzkin> Alright, I'll ask another question...does anyone here have an eSATA ExpressCard that works in Linux? I'd be willing to buy a new one
[07:08] <jbuncher> ActionParsnip,
[07:08] <dbum> Zorge: I don't use my eee that much anyway.... that's just for toilet nerding
[07:09] <jbuncher> ActionParsnip, thanks!
[07:09] <Zorge> dbum: it is the netbook remix, the 10.04 netbook remix is much like 9.10, only a few fixes in the home applet
[07:09] <costre> stiltzkin, I run a 4disk raid array through a esata controller
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Jbuncher: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
[07:09] <stiltzkin> costre: expresscard?
[07:10] <costre> stiltzkin, I dont know what an expresscard is
[07:10] <stiltzkin> costre: yeah then that's not what I need...thanks anyway :/
[07:10] <panzer> ActionParsnip: thanks I am just getting back but will be looking at that.
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Jbuncher: basically makes the boot use vesafb driver which will work on any video chip. The nvidia driver will load later
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Panzer: works here. Made my sunrise show ;)
[07:10] <dbum> Zorge: I found easypeasy ran faster and I could program all the buttons.... but I hate waiting for them to update sometimes.... I'll try it out.... someday
[07:11] <costre> stiltzkin, kinda like PCMCIA v2.0? :)
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Dbum: fluxbox has awesome hotkey support
[07:11] <panzer> ActionParsnip: and here too.  Big thanks
[07:12] <stiltzkin> costre: exactly. the successor to PCMCIA
[07:12] <robertzaccour> is there a way to get frostwire to work?
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Panzer: I'm going to suggest it be default so nobody has an issue again, makes sense
[07:12] <jbuncher> ActionParsnip, ok, I had come across those, but it looked like some of those instructions depended on grub2 (the /etc/default/grub stuff) rather than grub 1
[07:12] <Zorge> oh I get speaker crackling when the system is starting up for some reason in 10.04 as well, didn't happen with 9.10
[07:12] <robertzaccour> it says i don't have a certain version of java installed, and that recent of a java version isn't in the repos
[07:12] <Zorge> sounds like electrical crackling, quite scary infact
[07:12] <dbum> ActionParsnip: Cool... I'll give that one a whirl too!  I got my n52 gamepad working with linux so I got more "hotkeys" than you can shake a stick @
[07:13] <hmw> Zorge: that's happening on my computers too, if your sound is OK generally, I wouldn't mind it too much
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Jbuncher: not sure on grub. the instructions can be translated for grub
[07:13] <hmw> Zorge: i disabled the login sound.
[07:13] <stiltzkin> as pitiful as it is, I'm going to see if I can get this to work in Windows 7 with the CD driver. That way I'll know the card still works. Not much use to me on a daily basis though :/
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> Zorge:  Just at startup?
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Jbuncher: i'd jump to grub2 for an easier life with support
[07:13] <Zorge> Just start up yes, during splash screen.  Sound once the OS is up and running is fine
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  see what java you do have installed? 'java --version'
[07:14] <Zorge> if theres supposed to be an ubuntu chime like 9.10 had, I get crackles instead
[07:14] <Zorge> lets have a look
[07:15] <Zorge> the sound theme is on no sound, so I'm not sure about that
[07:15] <ynk> good evening, guys.. depending on where you are.
[07:15] <dbum> I changed my chimes to pineapple express sound clips.... a lot more humorus
[07:15] <robertzaccour> Dr_Willis, should i have openjdk or icedtea?
[07:15] <hmw> !hi | ynk
[07:16] <hmw> hey, who gave Ubottu coffee? It's so responsive all the sudden! *smile*
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  no idea really. The offical SUN java is in the partnerts repo. If you have java installed its proberly the other one.
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> !java
[07:16] <ynk> !flash
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  some apps require the sun java.
[07:17] <CogitoErgoSam> yeah, sun has some libs that are released open source, some that aren't
[07:17] <Zorge> so the crackling is a common current issue for 10.04 users then, thats a relief
[07:17] <ynk> is there a future for gnu/linux and flash? i'm a beginner in the nix world, and it's quite frustrating that i have to stay away from flash sites...
[07:17] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  The current implementations are pretty good
[07:17] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  They're certainly not ideal but they seem to work most of the time for me at least
[07:19] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: i'm running Karmic on a 64-bit laptop with more than enough ram to spare -- try Movado.com and tell me if you're able to even navigate the site.
[07:19] <ynk> it's a watch selling company.
[07:19] <costre> ynk, Youtube works smoother on my linux machine than on my windiows7 system
[07:20] <robscomputer> Youtube works for me but the stop/stop when embedded doesn't work.
[07:20] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  As a matter of fact it works on both computers here, both my 6 year old laptop and my 64bit desktop
[07:20] <dbum> ynk, it seems like a lot of people have been having problems with 64-bit version with 10.04   I'm using 32 bit and haven't had any probs
[07:20] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  Seems to work fine, although its a little cpu heavy on my old centrino laptop
[07:21] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam, costre, dbum: i presume the problem could just be on my end; i'm using Chrome.
[07:21] <costre> ynk, I never use the 64 bit versions although I have a 64-bit system
[07:21] <slackster1> dbum: lol.. I too now have a 10.04 coster :)
[07:21] <tertl3> music-theory
[07:22] <costre> ynk, Also, movado.com works good here. Looks like a strip club of sorts
[07:22] <slackster1> dbum: I take it your problem was slightly different though
[07:22] <ynk> costre: they make exceptional watches -- and now jewelries.
[07:22] <ynk> *jewelry
[07:23] <Moral_> I'm having some trouble with ifconfig. Logs are as followed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/433708/
[07:23] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  The site seems to work fine in chrome on both boxes here too, both old laptop with lucid and 64-bit lucid desktop
[07:24] <dbum> slackster1: when I was upgrading I clicked on sda instead of sda5 or what ever..... I use a portable hard drive for school and have screwed up grub in the past and started from scratch... now I've gotten the hang of it and even learned how to clear all the junk out of it!!!!  I'm pretty happy now.
[07:24] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: wow, i am actually surprised! try clicking around for a bit.. it'll stop working after, say 15 to 20 seconds.
[07:25] <slackster1> dbum: ah intersting. :P
[07:25] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  I'll give it a shot.  Desktop box has 2 monitors, got the site full screen in firefox on one, and chrome on the other
[07:26] <ynk> ok, i'll give Firefox a shot.
[07:26] <panzer> anyone else having the /var/run/screen bug?
[07:26] <dbum> slackster1: very surprised how ubuntu can jump to many different computers (with portable usb hd) and adapt with little to no problems
[07:26] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk the prob might be more related to the lack of cpu optimization that flash is kinda notorious for on non-windows boxes
[07:27] <aleksej> Привет
[07:27] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: BINGO! :] so that's what's going on...
[07:27] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk the site seemed to hog cpu on my laptop, but its also a 6 year old 700m with a 1.4ghz centrino
[07:27] <Moral_> Ifconfig wants me to run it as sudo, why? and How do I change it back? http://paste.ubuntu.com/433708/
[07:27] <aleksej> Hi
[07:28] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: conversely, i have a 4gb ram 64-bit laptop from HP and it's doing the same...
[07:28] <robertzaccour> are there any web browsers faster than chromium?
[07:28] <dbum> ynk: have you tried gnash...... I haven't but heard some cats talking about it..... less strain......and no they weren't really cats
[07:28] <GarmaZed> robertzaccour: I think Opera 10.5 may be, is it even out yet?
[07:28] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  Yeah the ram might not factor into it at all though.  Adobe's been slow to support gpu rendering on other OS's
[07:28] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  On top of the cpu issues of course
[07:29] <robertzaccour> GarmaZed, i don't know about opera, i know chromium is
[07:29] <ynk> dbum: i hear ya, brotha. i'll read up on it.
[07:29] <hmw> Moral_: its quite unusual, that this directory is not "in the PATH"... you must be in a strange context or did something to your system. Pleas provide more details and what you did before/what you were trying to achieve
[07:29] <ynk> robertzaccour: Opera is the fastest browser known to man -- and still is. :]
[07:29] <GarmaZed> robertzaccour: it looks like only ver 10.10 is out for Linux, but 10.5 is listed as soon
[07:29] <aleksej> Why can the shutdown of Linux turn off the internet connection for all computers connected with the same ADSL-modem?
[07:30] <Moral_> hmw, I was just trying to check my Mac address. I believe this started after I moved from gnome to LXDE as my window manager
[07:30] <robertzaccour> ynk, there's actually one faster than chromium? maybe i'll give it a try :)
[07:30] <enav> how can i show the address field on nautilus at ubuntu 10.04
[07:30] <hmw> Moral_: try to log in on the console: CTRL+ALT+F2
[07:30] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me where address bar is in Nautilus. Using 10.04 lucid lynx.
[07:31] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: i don't get it! Adobe finds time to develop a WORKING VERSION for the iPad -- which Apple still refuses to use -- yet don't won't focus on linux!? what gives, man!
[07:31] <hmw> Moral_: and see, if it is your bash or something with the WM
[07:31] <livingdaylight> is 'search bar' = 'address bar' ?
[07:31] <Moral_> hmw, yea that ran fine
[07:31] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  As a followup, site's been open in both ff and chrome for a few mins of clicking around on the desktop, and it still seems fine.  Its a quad core 2.4ghz box with 4g ram.  Current cpu usage is < 10% on all cores, mem @ 1.4gb with a few other things running.  Looks fine.
[07:31] <Talu> Jeez, people in #vbox sure are unhelpfull.
[07:31] <dbum> View>>location bar
[07:31] <Moral_> so It must be lxde's issue.
[07:31] <GarmaZed> livingdaylight: I think the search bar is hidden by default, I saw a forum post where they mentioned that.
[07:31] <travis> hello there, after installing nvidia drivers, my splash screen got screwed is there a way to solve the issue?
[07:31] <GarmaZed> ^er, address bar I mean
[07:32] <livingdaylight> GarmaZed, yes, it is. But I found how to find the Search Bar. However, I'm looking for the Address bar, unless search bar and address bar are one and the same
[07:32] <slackster1> dbum: yea, great tool.. I too have an old 7200rmp laptop hardisk when I got an external enclosure for.
[07:32] <shifat_taushif> Hello, is there any way to uninstall a 3rd party program on xubuntu?
[07:32] <travis___> i tried using startupmanager and it screwed it even more
[07:32] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  Priorities and money, bud :)  Adobe won't get as much of a return on investment by spending money and man-hours developing for *nix as they will on the mainstream platforms.  Granted, this may change as more android devices start to flood the market.
[07:32] <travis___> :/
[07:33] <soreau> shifat_taushif: Depends on how it was installed
[07:33] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  So if we get lucky, maybe we'll get some trickledown attention by virtue of android support
[07:33] <hmw> livingdaylight: they removed it, you can have the address bar permanently with    gconftool --type bool    --set /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry  true
[07:33] <CogitoErgoSam> This is getting a little offtopic though
[07:33] <shifat_taushif> soreau: I installed it like this -  sudo apt-get install
[07:33] <odinmytr> hello, ubuntu channel!
[07:34] <soreau> shifat_taushif: So remove it with sudo apt-get remove
[07:34] <dbum> slackster1: They gave everyone at school (IT guys) a 320Gb WD little baby drive..... I love it!!!!!
[07:34] <livingdaylight> hmw, that's criminal... Thanks for the head up
[07:34] <shifat_taushif> thank you!
[07:34] <hmw> livingdaylight: i think so too... perhaps we can find an easy way to get that button back, that allowed switching?
[07:34] <blue-frog> enav, ctrl L
[07:34] <odinmytr> i have some severe trouble with 10.04 upgrade == not booting due to problems with grub and dm-crypt/lvm system
[07:34] <travis___> Do anyone know how to fix the plymouth ugly splash screen issue?
[07:34] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: it's a desktop you were talking about, right? hmm. perhaps it's more efficient on desktops than laptops..
[07:35] <blue-frog> enav, or edit gconf for a permanent address bar
[07:35] <slackster1> dbum: that would be nice.. If you are interested in a OS made for thumb drive.. check out SLAX if you have not
[07:35] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: i see a bright future for Android.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  lots of people have issues with it.. snd some fix's are out.. and some fix's end up making it worse. :)
[07:35] <p1oooop> odinmytr: chroot it...
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[07:35] <odinmytr> ploooop: does not work
[07:36] <CogitoErgoSam> ynk:  Yeah, I'm sticking with my iphone for now.  My jailbroken iphone that I use to ssh into my ubuntu boxes and script remotely :D
[07:36] <travis___> Dr_Willis, exactly, at first it changed it to lower resolution, after using startupmanager it screwed it completely
[07:36] <p1oooop> odinmytr: load up on another machine with working OS and modify it so it does not need dm-crypt
[07:36] <dbum> slackster1: I ran ubuntu off my flash for a while...just no room to do anything... I'll check it out though
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  i find it best to disable it as much as possible
[07:36] <p1oooop> odinmytr: or with a live-cd
[07:36] <blue-frog> livingdaylight, ctrl L or edit gconf for a permanent change
[07:36] <travis___> Dr_Willis, how do i bring it up in text mode as in old old versions?
[07:36] <slackster1> dbum: when I tried to run ubuntu off my flash it was super slow... slax allows you to load everthing into the ram.. cool project.
[07:36] <Sol-Operator> Hi All!
[07:37] <ynk> CogitoErgoSam: i don't have to jailbroken my Android device to ssh on my campus network. ;]
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  that url i gave mentions that.
[07:37] <travis___> Dr_Willis, some kind of verbose output stating what is being loaded
[07:37] <odinmytr> ploooop: first suggestion, that doesn't make sense; second -- i have already done that  with help I could find on ubuntu community forums, debian community forums
[07:37] <soreau> ! hi | Sol-Operator
[07:37] <slackster1> dbum: it is pretty much optimized for such usage
[07:37] <travis___> Dr_Willis, can u repaste url please?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  i also have disabled the plymouth service.. but thats proberly not a good idea
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[07:37] <livingdaylight> blue-frog, thank you. Ctrl 'L' will do
[07:37] <dbum> slackster1: yeah I'm checking it out now.....like I said.... I got my HD now so I'm good.....I'll recommend it though.....kinda reminds me of mandrake
[07:38] <slackster1> dbum: yea.. just worth a look.. I have it on my flash drive.. don't use it much.. but nice to have the option :)
[07:38] <odinmytr> there is some kind of severe problem in 10.04 with initramfs image created on systems that have 9.10 created encrypted filesystem and lvm2
[07:38] <timClicks> i've just upgraded to 10.04 and something has happened that's caused my xorg to only open in low graphics mode
[07:39] <Viking667> what the heck is Plymouth supposed to be? A splash screen that starts from just after Grub?
[07:39] <odinmytr> when you upgrade, the init scripts don't work from initramfs
[07:39] <Dr_Willis> Viking667:  basically  - yes
[07:39] <Viking667> ...which reminds me, I have to dart off into the bowels of Grub2 to go fix something ...
[07:40] <odinmytr> also grub-pc is broken in 10.04 for people who have - character in their lvm filename (fix was committed to debian-bugs but not as far as i can tell brought into ubuntu lucid0
[07:41] <slackster1> dbum: thanks for your help.. I'm off now.. getting late
[07:41] <ReligionHater> Is anybody using deluge for bit torrent?
[07:41] <odinmytr> from initramfs busybox shell i am unable to boot into lvm once i have manually used cryptsetup luksOpen to setup the drive
[07:41] <dbum> slackster1: night.... I gotta get some sleep too!!! school in 8 hours
[07:41] <hazizi> can anyone suggest to me appropriate database visualization
[07:41] <hazizi> for data warehouse
[07:41] <slackster1> dbum: school on Sat?
[07:42] <dbum> slackster1: yeah... they stuck me with Friday nights and then I gotta come back on Sat. Morning.....UGHHHH
[07:42] <slackster1> yikes.. well good luck :) bye
[07:42] <ReligionHater> Is there a better bit torrent program than deluge?
[07:43] <odinmytr> does anybody here understand how to boot 10.04 systems from initramfs shell manually and can help with this problem?
[07:43] <dbum> ReligionHater: I like tranmission
[07:43] <travis___> ok lets see if it works
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> ReligionHater:  thers tons of bittorrent clients out - It depends on your needs
[07:43] <travis___> :D
[07:43] <dbum> transmission
[07:43] <ReligionHater> dbum, transmission sucks
[07:44] <dbum> ReligionHater: ok.... I like it.... but ok
[07:44] <fozilla> part
[07:45] <hink> OK, I made a local apt mirror for our network, and this thing is screaming. ..... Question: is it possible to specify a secondary or backup repo?
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> dbum:  ReligionHater  http://www.webupd8.org/2010/04/best-linux-bittorrent-client.html
[07:45] <travis___> Dr_Willis, that worked, is ee the awfull pink shit now
[07:45] <olskolirc> what is a good firewall for ubuntu where we can see the ip address of the intruder a good read out please?
[07:45] <alexanderk> hello
[07:45] <ReligionHater> I want to create a torrent but I don't know how? Deluge seems to also suck.
[07:45] <travis___> Dr_Willis, is 1920 x 1080 a valid resolution for splash screen?
[07:45] <alexanderk> i search for a beat detection algorithm
[07:45] <alexanderk> can anybody help me
[07:45] <dbum> guess I'm not the only one....haha
[07:46] <dbum> !ask
[07:46] <dancek> ReligionHater, glad you asked, I've been using utorrent for a while on osx, but deluge just might be a good alternative
[07:46] <alexanderk> have anyone experince with beat detection algorithms?
[07:46] <olskolirc> whats wrong with ubottu?
[07:47] <travis___> Dr_Willis, each time i change the resolution i must regenerate grub and initram?
[07:47] <ReligionHater> dancek, I have been using Deluge for one year now and it sucks.
[07:47] <dbum> I think ubottu is drunk.....
[07:47] <olskolirc> hey dr willis
[07:47] <alexanderk> are there programmers?
[07:47] <egsome> i've problem installing Ubuntu 10.04 with Gigabyte G31, i'm trying to install using NetInstall ( UNetBootIn ) but the problem is that LAN require a driver install ( CD for Windows ) >> Any Idea ?
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  proberly
[07:47] <bullgard> alexanderk: There are.
[07:47] <milo__> hey. Can anyone please help me to fix broken package error in ubuntu?
[07:47] <odinmytr> 10.04 system will not boot: upgraded system from 9.10; grub-pc borked, will not upgrade correctly so won't write grub.cfg without /boot prefix; manual booting from initramfs shell doesn't work
[07:48] <travis___> Dr_Willis, is the splash screen capable of full hd format?
[07:48] <alexanderk> anybody have experience with beat detection algorithms?
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  no idea.
[07:48] <travis___> Dr_Willis, is there a way to get an old fashioned text boot instead of that crap?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  i basically have a text boot.
[07:49] <alexanderk> anybody has an idea where i can find help about beat detection?
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> but X/Gdm startups so fast. i dont see 1/2 the messages
[07:49] <dancek> alexanderk, i have no experience on beat detection and it will depend on what type of music you wanna analyze, but i guess fft'ing and looking for high amplitude low frequencies might sort of work
[07:49] <travis___> Dr_Willis, heh, then i guess ill have to use it and figure out how to change the theme
[07:49] <egsome> i've problem installing Ubuntu 10.04 with Gigabyte G31, i'm trying to install using NetInstall ( UNetBootIn ) but the problem is that LAN require a driver install ( CD for Windows ) >> Any Idea ?
[07:50] <travis___> Dr_Willis, i hope they do a graphical manager at once, i bet other distros using plymouth have it
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> travis___:  Only other disrto i know of that uses plymouth is redhat (i think)
[07:50] <odinmytr> does anyone here have experience with fixing 10.04 boot problems/
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> There are alteretive plymouth themes in the repos.
[07:50] <travis___> i readed somewhere slackware was using it
[07:50] <dbum> odinmytr:  Grub Problems?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> I would be suprused if slackware is using it.. its still using LILO last i checked.
[07:51] <travis___> yes but again no way of tuning it only in command line
[07:51] <alexanderk> dancek, i wanna get out the bpm of a song
[07:51] <odinmytr> dbum: yes, and initramfs problems!!
[07:51] <odinmytr> dbum: i upgraded from 9.10
[07:51] <robertzaccour> is gnome de recommended for netbooks or should i stick with xfce?
[07:51] <egsome> How to get Networking in Ubuntu 10.04 on a Gigabyte G31 ?
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  i like the netbook interface on my netbooks :)
[07:52] <dbum> odinmytr:  I had to do this after upgrading.....don't worry about the after installing windows part    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:52] <dancek> alexanderk, if you only want bpm then it might be easier, see e.g. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/477944/bpm-audio-detection-library
[07:52] <olskolirc> ubottu offline?
[07:52] <robertzaccour> ynk, i tired opera, it boots up a lot slower than chromium from my end
[07:52] <dbum> odinmytr:  I didn't have iniramfs probs though
[07:52] <hmw> anyone cares to give me a crash course in irssi? I don't see incoming PMs and would like to save on reading 10 hours of man pages for the nifty features
[07:53] <robertzaccour> hmw, have you tried xchat?
[07:53] <hmw> robertzaccour: that doesnt sound like a terminal irc client
[07:53] <ynk> robertzaccour: you didn't say anything about boot time. :P
[07:53] <nixjr> does anyone know howto display ubuntu version name/number in conky?
[07:53] <Flannel> hmw: http://f0rked.com/articles/irssi  alt-# where # is the window number, but read that page, it'll get you up to speed
[07:54] <robertzaccour> ynk, boot time is a good indicator of speed lol
[07:54] <Uggis> hey, few days ago i used some tutorial to make ralink usb wlan to work with ubuntu
[07:54] <hmw> Flannel: great, i am on it! thx
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> hmw:  you may want to check out weechat - it has some very good docs/guides and features not in irssi
[07:54] <Uggis> but now when i put it to laptop, it aint work
[07:54] <robertzaccour> hmw, its not, but it is user friendly and has a decent gui
[07:54] <ynk> robertzaccour: quite honestly, the main reason i use Opera on my desktop, and Chrome on my laptop is because i really love mouse gestures in opera.. as well as a plethora of other features.
[07:54] <robertzaccour> ynk, opera does have a pretty design
[07:55] <odinmytr> dbum: i read the webpage. i have grub installed to the mbr.  the problems are deeper.
[07:55] <dbum> odinmytr: that's what I figured.....sorry.....not the dude for that
[07:55] <odinmytr> dbum: i can boot to grub, hit ctrl-c for command or ctrl-e for edit just fine
[07:55] <hmw> Dr_Willis: I am looking to replace my epic client on my LFS box. Irssih might have little dependencies, how about weechat? I do not want to download and compile tons of libraries, that's why I chose epic when i made my LFS
[07:55] <jushoa> anyone but me have trouble upgrading to 10.04???.... It have trouble connecting to my country software mirror
[07:55] <ynk> robertzaccour: chrome is awesome too. it's my second choice. opera is more intuitive to me, at least. plus, the synchronization of bookmarks is quite sexy.
[07:56] <odinmytr> i think grub-pc for 10.04 still has a serious bug, however
[07:56] <dancek> odinmytr, initramfs problems? what's the error message you get?
[07:56] <tuxx> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:57] <robertzaccour> hmw, are you anti GUI? lol just curious, seems to be the easier way to irc chat
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> hmw:  weechat is in the repos. most text based clients dont have a lot of depends anyway
[07:57] <hmw> Dr_Willis: not repos, ubuntu.. LFS
[07:57] <hmw> and they have sometimes... insanly many...
[07:57] <robertzaccour> whats weechat?
[07:57] <ynk> robertzaccour: opera's speed, a few years back, was its core competency. now, most browsers are so fast, it's hard to really distinguish the difference in speed. just go with whichever you can browse with quickly. opera is that browser for me.. but i use chrome on the go, because without a mouse, my speed is greatly reduced.
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> !info weechat
[07:58] <bigfishinnet> hello
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> weechat a text based irc client - with many innovative features
[07:58] <dancek> robertzaccour, you can't run a gui irc client in a screen somewhere on a server
[07:58] <nixjr> how would I write an awk script that displays my version of ubuntu?
[07:58] <dancek> screen as in gnu screen
[07:58] <tsimpson> nixjr: use lsb_release
[07:58] <odinmytr> dancek: grub-pc in the 10.04 did not write a correct grub.cfg for grub2, as i have a separate /boot partition since i took the route of setting up encrypted main partition with my previous 9.10 install. the grub-pc package in 10.04 is broken.  i can get to grub2 (version is 1.98-1ubuntu60; when i hit e for edit, i can edit the incorrect entries to eliminate the /boot prefix and reset root= to not refer to /dev/mapper
[07:58] <robertzaccour> dancek, ah i see. my computer use stays at home and school lol
[07:59] <dancek> nixjr, did you try lsb_release -a
[07:59] <hmw> Flannel: i already saw the page before, must I read the whole thing (i know about screen already, for example), to find out, how to make irssi tell me, that there are PMs coming in? I can't be checking with ALT-3/ALT-2 all the time
[07:59] <tsimpson> nixjr: or just read /etc/issue
[07:59] <robertzaccour> why do so many bugs get released into the releases?
[07:59] <dancek> tsimpson, it's user-editable so it's not reliable
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  computers are complex :)
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> robertzaccour:  manpower is limited.
[07:59] <nixjr> that works, but i want to display it in conky, so i need to make it into an awk script that conky cna call
[07:59] <tsimpson> dancek: there is no "reliable" way then
[08:00] <dancek> tsimpson, true :)
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> nixjr:  check the conky homepage, thers proberly allready a feature in conky to do it.
[08:00] <robertzaccour> for example: i had to buy a plug in voice mic cause i couldn't get the integrated mic to work, and have to use my usb card reader because my sd slot don't work
[08:01] <odinmytr> dancek: once i boot edited command list from grub, i get 'error;no such disk' Alert; /dev/mapper/vg--yourdisk--root--lv does not exist. Dropping to a shell
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> hmw:  in weechat - i see a nick/# in my statusbar in the irc window. and I get a 'notify' thing in Gnome. :) saying the message.
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> hmw:  irssi has a setting to show the msgs in the current window i recall. but been ages since i last used it
[08:02] <odinmytr> then i am in initramfs.  i successfully made a crypttab once, then did a luksopen and continued booting whereupon i issued an update-initramfs -u all.  since then i have not been able to repeat that experience
[08:02] <dancek> nixjr, is this good enough? lsb_release -a | grep "^Release" | sed 's/Release:[ \t]*//'
[08:02] <hmw> Dr_Willis: i remember... it's similar in epic. Gotta check it out. Thanks.
[08:03] <nixjr> dancek, i have no idea, i dont know howto write awk, but thats better then anything i could come up with
[08:03] <dancek> odinmytr, hmm, i wouldn't think they dropped lvm device mapper from the initramfs
[08:03] <egsome> Can i install any LAN driver for Windows on Linux using ndiswrapper ?
[08:04] <dancek> robertzaccour, and you lose irc connection whenever you turn off your computer? that's what most of us try to avoid :)
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  a wireless card driver you mean?
[08:05] <dbum> egsome: I use ndiswrapper for my linksys WUB11v4 but can't get WEP to work......works fine with no encryption
[08:05] <odinmytr> dancek: i am in initramfs right now; if i go into /scripts, i see under local-top, for example, cryptoopensc and cryptroot; under /scripts/init-premount there is an lvm2 entry
[08:05] <odinmytr> pwd
[08:05] <dancek> odinmytr, do you still get the old kernel version to boot?
[08:05] <egsome> Dr_Willis, No, i've an old motherboard ( Gigabyte G31 ), it has built-in network, but i don't know how to install the drivers for it !
[08:05] <robertzaccour> dancek, you stay on irc when you're not using your computer? make room for those that need help lol
[08:06] <dancek> robertzaccour, what, i'd lose all the backlog (on friend channels) then
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  normal wired nic. should allready have teh drivers/modules installed.  Figure out what chipset its using. It may be you need to load the modules manually
[08:06] <odinmytr> dancek; no, the old kernel version is gone, since i needed to make nvidia work with 10.04 i got rid of the old kernel
[08:06] <robertzaccour> dancek, i knew what you meant, just tryin to be funny thats all lol
[08:06] <dancek> :)
[08:06] <egsome> Dr_Willis, How should i load it manually ?
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  theres moule autoloading files.
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> !whitelist
[08:07] <dancek> odinmytr, so it's gone as in removed with apt
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> modules.autoload or somthing in /etc/ IF you know the modulename
[08:07] <odinmytr> dancek; gone as in removed with apt affirmative
[08:07] <egsome> Dr_Willis, OK, there's another problem related to that, Now i can't install using the live cd on this mother board
[08:08] <dancek> odinmytr, are you sure you're using the same boot parameters that the old kernel worked with
[08:08] <odinmytr> i am going to try doing the cryptsetup routine again and see what happens, okay/
[08:08] <egsome> Dr_Willis, i get the loading image animating and no thing happens more
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  try the alt-installer cd ?
[08:08] <dancek> odinmytr, yeah, i'm sorry but i guess i can't help you
[08:08] <egsome> Dr_Willis, and i can't use the NetInstall because the nic doesn't work ( need driver )
[08:08] <egsome> Dr_Willis, Can i load the modules for it from the NetInstall ?
[08:08] <odinmytr> dancek: yes, i have the old grub.cfg stored on my server here which i have displayed on another screen side by side with the screen displaying the boot of the problem machine
[08:09] <egsome> Dr_Willis, alt-installer needs internet ?
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  no idea. I never do net installs
[08:09] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  the normal desktop and alt- can both install without internet.
[08:09] <egsome> Dr_Willis, What does alt gives me ? min-system ?
[08:10] <FireCrotch> egsome: alternate installer gives you a full desktop install
[08:10] <Dr_Willis> alternave installer = text based installer.. works in problem cases
[08:10] <odinmytr> dancek: so at initramfs shell, i enter: 'echo "Encrypted /dev/sda5 none luks" > /etc/crypttab to make a temporary crypttab
[08:10] <FireCrotch> egsome: its useful for systems that can run ubuntu, but can't run the LiveCD-based installer
[08:11] <egsome> Dr_Willis, FireCrotch,  OK, Last Q, Can i load nic modules from LiveCD or NetInstall ?
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  if they are included - you can load them
[08:11] <odinmytr> dancek: then cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda5 Encrypted; enter passphrase, success, message is 'key slot 0 unlocked'. okay now to try for lvm.
[08:11] <egsome> Dr_Willis, How to ?
[08:11] <Dr_Willis> modprobe modulename
[08:13] <egsome> Drand if Not Included ? i should look for it ?
[08:13] <odinmytr> dancek: /sbin/lvm vgscan is successful
[08:13] <egsome> Dr_Willis,  if Not Included ? i should look for it ?
[08:13] <dancek> odinmytr, well good :)
[08:13] <dancek> odinmytr, i guess it's bug report time then
[08:13] <Dr_Willis> egsome: then you are stuck i guess
[08:14] <egsome> Dr_Willis, No more ways before changing mother board ?
[08:14] <odinmytr> "/sbin/lvm vgchange -ay" == success
[08:14] <odinmytr> now if i exit initramfs, lets see what happens
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> egsome:  ive never found a wired nic that wasent supported.. but there may be some out there.
[08:15] <wildbat> hi, anyone know where do i set gvfs option? i wanna mount some share upon login and make change the permission setting of the mount. OR how do i umount cifs from fstab be4 network manager shutdown?
[08:16] <odinmytr> danceK; so i dropped into plymouth, and it asked again for my luks passphrase, now is waiting with annoying orange and white dots
[08:17] <sistematico> This rule contains some security flaw? -> http://paste.debian.net/73340/
[08:17] <jushoa> how do I change default file browser from nautilus to dolphin ???
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> jushoa:  not very easially. and with lots of other problems
[08:18] <odinmytr> dancek; on console i see last message; EXT4-fs (dm-1): warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended.
[08:18] <jushoa> Dr.Willis.... so what u say, is that I should keep nautilus, right ;-)
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> jushoa:  ive had cases in the past where kde/gnome get confused and start using the others file manager.. it can get really messy
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> jushoa:  if you like dolphin, make an icon for it on the desktop
[08:19] <zigwoggler> anyway of getting empathy to sign you in automatically? i've had a look and i can't seem to find anyway
[08:19] <jushoa> Dr.Willis.... yeah.... peharpse ur right, and I
[08:19] <sistematico> jushoa: update-alternatives --config www-browser
[08:19] <jushoa> Im using nautilus all the time
[08:19] <sistematico> Or similar..
[08:20] <jerriy> Hi
[08:20] <jushoa> Hey
[08:20] <egsome> Dr_Willis, Thanks for help, i tried another board ( G31 ) now, and it worked !, so i think there's a problem in the first one
[08:21] <egsome> Dr_Willis, Thanks anyway for info
[08:21] <jerriy> Question: I upgraded to Lucid linx and since then my File Browser's "search function" is bust (cant find anything)
[08:21] <zigwoggler> anyway of getting empathy to sign you in automatically when you start the computer?
[08:21] <Wilhelm-Scream> This is probably a really dumb question
[08:21] <Wilhelm-Scream> How do I change the defualt cursor?
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> Wilhelm-Scream:  its in the appearance settings  area.
[08:22] <sistematico> Ziber: System > Preferences > Session
[08:22] <sistematico> ops
[08:22] <Wilhelm-Scream> Thank you
[08:22] <jerriy> System > preferences > mouse I
[08:22] <Mikuzu> CHAT ONLINE http://cyberpunks.ro/   ROMANIAN CHAT             CHAT ONLINE http://cyberpunks.ro/   ROMANIAN CHAT
[08:22] <Mikuzu> CHAT ONLINE http://cyberpunks.ro/   ROMANIAN CHAT             CHAT ONLINE http://cyberpunks.ro/   ROMANIAN CHAT
[08:22] <Mikuzu> CHAT ONLINE http://cyberpunks.ro/   ROMANIAN CHAT             CHAT ONLINE http://cyberpunks.ro/   ROMANIAN CHAT
[08:23] <zigwoggler> !help
[08:23] <Wilhelm-Scream> I see nothing under mouse
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Wilhelm-Scream:   sometimes ive had to log out/back in to get the mouse cursors to change
[08:23] <wildbat> hi, anyone know where do i set gvfs option? i wanna mount some share upon login and make change the permission setting of the mount. OR how do i umount cifs from fstab be4 network manager shutdown?
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Wilhelm-Scream:  its under where you change your themes.  customize button.
[08:23] <gpannwitz> zigwoggler: hi
[08:23] <Wilhelm-Scream> Oh ok
[08:24] <jerriy> Repeat my Question: I upgraded to Lucid linx and since then my File Browser's "search function" is bust (cant find anything)
[08:24] <Wilhelm-Scream> Thank you
[08:24] <zigwoggler> gpannwitz: is there a way of setting empathy to sign you in wen u start the pc or am i just missing the obvious here?
[08:24] <dancek> odinmytr, and it doesn't allow you to enter the passphrase?
[08:24] <gpannwitz> zigwoggler: System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications
[08:25] <zigwoggler> gpannwitz: cheers, wat wud you put in for empathy im?
[08:25] <jerriy> Anybody with Lucid?
[08:25] <gpannwitz> zigwoggler: you add a new entry, and under command you put empathy
[08:26] <zigwoggler> gpannwitz: done, thanks mate
[08:26] <gpannwitz> zigwoggler: glad I could help you :)
[08:26] <odinmytr> dancek: no, correction, in plymouth, it prompted me for the passphrase; after 9 minutes of waiting, (in console i saw maximal mount count reached from ext4-fs) i inserted 10.04 desktop cd and rebooted, bios is set to cd first, so i will run ext4 fsck
[08:27] <purestrain> does anyone know if a package/repo for rubyripper exists in 10.04 ?
[08:27] <dancek> odinmytr, oh.
[08:29] <jerriy> File Browser anyone?
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> jerriy:  what search feature? I never really use search :) other then the locate command
[08:29] <Mukeshh> m using ubuntu... how do i run windows based programs on ubuntu (10.04)
[08:29] <antont> i upgraded to 10.04 in a wubi installed 9.10 and made the mistake of upgrading grub. now am at the grub rescue prompt, and insmod ntfs says 'error: unknown filesystem' and lsmod is an unknown command. don't have a rescue disk. anything i can do to boot?
[08:30] <antont> Mukeshh: use wine?
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> !wine | Mukeshh
[08:30] <odinmytr> dancek: but i think that when i get back to desktop after this manual process, i will find two things; 1) that grub-pc is unable to install from apt; and that any attempt on my part to "fix" my initramfs image with update-initramfs will fail on next book. 1) means that any attempt on my part to let grub-probe write a 'correct' grub-cfg will FAIL, i believe this means that grub-pc latest is in fact broken in some way; and 2) i would like help with how to m
[08:30] <Mukeshh> antont i  know bout wine..but will tat work 100%
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> Mukeshh:  if you want '100%' use windows.. theres no guarentees wine will work with any speciic app
[08:31] <Dr_Willis> Mukeshh:  what app are you wanting to run?