[06:09] <InkChild> FlyCaster: well firstly step back from /media/hdb, type cd by itself now
[06:09] <slicky> Jordan_U:  kk ill try
[06:10] <VigoFusion> So if I have Edgy general/generic, non server, I have to install a Firewall?
[06:10] <syntaxx> sweet!
[06:10] <FlyCaster> inkchild:  let me go play a while and will return with more questions......  You helped me figure out a lot so far.  will play starting with cd and the next step you suggest, then return.
[06:10] <InkChild> FlyCaster: sudo mount -vt ext3 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb
[06:10] <mikeo1> hopefully with edgy it will be easy to get xgl to work
[06:10] <mikeo1> or rather beryl and aiglx
[06:10] <slicky> Jordan_U:  kk done.. now reboot?
[06:10] <carpediem> I have beryl on edgy.  Wasn't totally easy though.
[06:11] <mikeo1> i have beryl on edgy on dual screen at my computer in my dorm room at college, but right now im on the junky server in my basement at home :(
[06:11] <Acu> dabaR: do you know what module should be loaded for php and apache (there are 20 of them) ?
[06:11] <Jordan_U> slicky: No, just press ctrl + alt + backspace , you almost never need to reboot in linux :)
[06:11] <FlyCaster> inkchild:  says it is already mounted.
[06:11] <mikeo1> or /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:11] <Pelo> g'night folks
[06:11] <mikeo1> or killall gdm
[06:12] <dabaR> Acu: well, you need a package called libapache2-php5 or something.
[06:12] <cmweb> Does anyone here know how to make scripts for the Supybot ptogram..... I need to make some for my channel
[06:12] <FlyCaster> inkchild.  but I had used the reiserfs in the command the last time I tried it.  do I need to unmount it first and try again?
[06:12] <dabaR> syntaxx: not sure where to remove it, I looked at all the files that are installed by the gnome-session package.
[06:12] <InkChild> FlyCaster: yep
[06:12] <cmweb> Yes ive lost the documentation not such a good thing i found out
[06:12] <FlyCaster> ok
[06:12] <InkChild> FlyCaster: with sudo
[06:13] <slicky> Jordan_U:  still the same.. OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[06:13] <InkChild> FlyCaster: now i got something to do, sorry
[06:13] <philip> is there a way to resize top panel tray icons?
[06:13] <FlyCaster> inkchild:  thanks!
[06:13] <e319> hi, i got a bunch of errors with i/o stream when iam trying to install ubuntu, most other os's say "boot disk failure" only fc6 installs, wnt to run ubuntu though, ithink that the kernel is the issue, with supporting my sata mobo connections
[06:13] <slicky> Jordan_U: it should be> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9600 Generi    or something
[06:13] <Jordan_U> slicky: that is truly bizarre, can you post the new xorg.conf ?
[06:14] <slicky> Jordan_U:  sure
[06:14] <InkChild> FlyCaster: sorry
[06:14] <e319> are there any ubuntu or kubuntu iso's with the newest kernel?
[06:14] <|thunder> what is the linux equix. of dreamweaver
[06:14] <cmweb> Help, i almost out of space. I have created another portion on the other hard drive an i nuno how to access it
[06:15] <|thunder> e319, edgy is 2.6.17-10-generic
[06:15] <e319> i am looking for 2.6.18 ... hmm
[06:16] <e319> all that iget when i boot is the splash, some msg's, then the same 2 errors repeating ...
[06:16] <slicky> Jordan_U:  http://<IP_ADDRESS>/xorg.conf.1
[06:16] <synacktion> anyone know the location of the XFCE menu file?
[06:16] <dabaR> cmweb: run sudo fdisk -l and post output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:16] <|thunder> e319; try fiesty
[06:16] <KnowledgEngi> sudo apt-get install linux-source
[06:16] <wpc> can anyone help me get inline vidoes to work in firefox such as a .mov
[06:17] <Jordan_U> slicky: Did you press ctrl+alt+backspace?
[06:17] <KnowledgEngi> this is the same source of default ubuntu edgy kernel ??
[06:17] <slicky> Jordan_U:  yes
[06:17] <Jordan_U> slicky: and did it log you out when you did that?
[06:17] <cmweb> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33401/
[06:18] <stevr1it> every time i want to work in internet with ubuntu 6.10 gnome, when i start it i have to configurate the internal network with digiting  ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> and to digit in the terminal route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:18] <stevr1it>  (the ip of th erouter). How can i make it working automatically?
[06:18] <slicky> Jordan_U: yepp.. but i think i have to reboot
[06:18] <bimberi> KnowledgEngi: yes
[06:18] <Jordan_U> slicky: It shouldn't make a difference but if you want to it can't hurt.
[06:18] <dabaR> cmweb: look at it, and tell me what you think the partition you want to mount is, and how sure of it you are.
[06:18] <Jordan_U> slicky: Wait .
[06:19] <Jordan_U> slicky: sudo modprobe fglrx
[06:19] <KnowledgEngi> and the .config is the same used by edgy ???
[06:19] <kodat> wpc, http://www.getautomatix.com/   -  download this, you can download most all the codecs you need...MPG files and some other media players suck at firefox in linux, at least i cant get them to work
[06:19] <slicky> Jordan_U:  but shouldnt i add  fglrx to the Section "Module"
[06:19] <KnowledgEngi> or edgy has as different configuration?
[06:19] <e319> where can i dl fiesty?
[06:19] <KnowledgEngi> as=a
[06:19] <cmweb> dabaR, /dev/hda3 its in the right place and exactly the rigth size
[06:19] <slicky> Jordan_U:  my keyboard layout became english when i restarted x lol
[06:19] <bimberi> KnowledgEngi: /boot/config*
[06:20] <dabaR> stevr1it: look at the /etc/network/interfaces file, and use man interfaces as a reference, ask me for further help if you need it.
[06:20] <wpc> kodat, thanks, i'll try that out.  is there anything else i could do to get them to work?  my dad likes watching youtube vidoes and other vlogs and i just switched them to ubuntu and he isn't happy.  i'm very new to this.
[06:20] <Jordan_U> slicky: Yeh.. that's my fault, the command I gave reset everything X related, including keyboard settings
[06:21] <slicky> Jordan_U:  kk
[06:21] <dabaR> cmweb: next, run gksudo gedit /etc/fstab, and post the contents to pastebin again
[06:21] <kaiki> *wpc* install flash and youtube should work
[06:21] <dabaR> e319: /j #ubuntu+1
[06:21] <KnowledgEngi> i think that if a copy the config: cp /boot/configxxxx /usr/src/linuxsourcexxx/.config
[06:21] <KnowledgEngi> i do not need tu run make oldconfig
[06:21] <VigoFusion> automatix is not supported by Ubuntu, and users are not suggested to use it. I think
[06:21] <KnowledgEngi> is correct??
[06:21] <slicky> Jordan_U:  iv been reading from this guide.. and the trubleshoting dosent help
[06:22] <cmweb> dabar, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33403/
[06:22] <Jordan_U> slicky: Again, I am not very good at manually editing the xorg.conf, you probably need to add it to "modules" but first just try modprobing it and restart x again.
[06:22] <kodat> wpc, you tube wont be a problem, some other sides may though..its really random
[06:22] <KnowledgEngi> "if a copy" = "if i copy"
[06:22] <bimberi> KnowledgEngi: that I'm not sure about but this page might ...
[06:22] <kodat> wpc, sites*
[06:22] <stevr1it> Dabar here i am. I am inside interface
[06:22] <wpc> kodat, will do, thanks for your help
[06:22] <slicky> Jordan_U:  sudo modprobe fglrx  ?
[06:22] <ktrauberman> any idea why i can't get edgy to connect to my school's wireless, which uses WEP?
[06:22] <bimberi> KnowledgEngi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:22] <Jordan_U> slicky: Yup.
[06:22] <stevr1it> auto lo
[06:22] <stevr1it> iface lo inet loopback
[06:22] <stevr1it> auto ath0
[06:22] <stevr1it> iface ath0 inet dhcp
[06:22] <stevr1it> auto wlan0
[06:22] <slicky> Jordan_U:  FATAL: Error running install command for fglrx
[06:22] <stevr1it> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[06:22] <kodat> wpc, im still on the lookout for getting every webpage to work perfectly hehe
[06:22] <stevr1it> wireless-essid
[06:22] <stevr1it> iface eth0 inet static
[06:22] <stevr1it> address <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:22] <KnowledgEngi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild?highlight=%28CategoryKernel%29
[06:23] <stevr1it> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:23] <slicky> Jordan_U:  hm..
[06:23] <stevr1it> gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:23] <KnowledgEngi> i'm reading it
[06:23] <cmweb> stevr1it, PAST BIN
[06:23] <stevr1it> ok
[06:23] <Jordan_U> slicky: Whell ther's your problem at least :)
[06:23] <cmweb> stevr1it, your on spam
[06:23] <stevr1it> no
[06:23] <stevr1it> sorry
[06:23] <Jordan_U> slicky: How did you install fglrx?
[06:23] <dabaR> cmweb: :) where do you want to mount the partition? under your home, or under /media?
[06:24] <slicky> Jordan_U:  by a howto.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI  this 1
[06:24] <ktrauberman> does anyone have any idea how to connect edgy to a wireless network that automatically provides a WEP key?
[06:24] <dabaR> stevr1it: post that to the pastebin, and the commands you get it to work, the pastebin is at paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:24] <cmweb> dabar, doesnt matter as long as i can acess it
[06:25] <VigoFusion> Should I apt-get firestarter? or download and install?
[06:25] <kaiki> apt-get
[06:25] <dabaR> cmweb: well, make a decision now, cause we have to choose one. under /media, it appears in your places menu, under your home it is like a directory in your home folder.
[06:25] <bimberi> VigoFusion: apt-get!
[06:25] <VigoFusion> Thank you
[06:25] <cmweb> media
[06:25] <stevr1it> dabaR ttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33404/
[06:25] <dabaR> cmweb: sudo mkdir /media/hda3
[06:25] <stevr1it> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33404/
[06:25] <cmweb> k
[06:26] <cmweb> dabaR, when should that take effect. I dont see it under places
[06:26] <dabaR> cmweb: then add this line "/dev/hda3       /media/hda3               ext3    defaults,users 0       0" to your fstab file, then save and close the editor, run sudo mount -a, and tell me whether you can se the files with ls /media/hda3
[06:26] <Jordan_U> slicky: I have never seen that error before, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:26] <dabaR> cmweb: we have not mounted it yet
[06:27] <Jordan_U> slicky: see if there are any errors when you run that.
[06:27] <cmweb> dabar, to what file
[06:27] <slicky> Jordan_U:  hm . when i type: fglrxinfo   it says: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[06:27] <slicky> Jordan_U:  kk
[06:27] <dabaR> cmweb: do you have the /etc/fstab file still open?
[06:27] <mom> Hey I need to add an XP install to this computer right now (running ubuntu but have to half crapy msword) an pitfalls i should beware?
[06:27] <DFM> I want to install Ubuntu 64bit on my system that already dual boots xp/kubuntu
[06:27] <cmweb> oh, one sec
[06:27] <dabaR> cmweb: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:27] <DFM> when I install will it add itself to grub?
[06:27] <slicky> Jordan_U:  no.. no errors
[06:27] <DFM> or will it rewrite grub and cause me to loose access to the 32bit version?
[06:27] <dabaR> mom: yes.
[06:28] <cmweb> HA
[06:28] <dabaR> !grub|mom
[06:28] <ubotu> mom: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:28] <Jordan_U> mom: You can run word with wine in linux, when you install windows it will clobber GRUB.
[06:28] <phillipc> a
[06:28] <cmweb> dabar, i added it under all of it
[06:28] <stevr1it> dabaR: any suggestion? ttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33404/
[06:28] <mom> how about Lilo?
[06:28] <Jordan_U> slicky: Try the modprobe again.
[06:28] <dabaR> You will have to recover grub with the first link in there. Oooh, lilo, not sure how to reinstall it, but it will get wiped too. google for recovering lilo after installing windows :-/
[06:29] <slicky> Jordan_U:  same as b4
[06:29] <dabaR> stevr1it: one sec, I will get to it.
[06:29] <dabaR> cmweb: I do not understand what you mean.
[06:29] <cmweb> heres a past bin of the fstab file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33406/
[06:30] <Jordan_U> slicky: fglrx should work, but lets see if you can get 3D accel without fglrx using the Free drivers.
[06:30] <teledyn> i'm in supermount hell
[06:30] <teledyn> can't seem to disable it via the sysctl
[06:30] <gotit> hi guys
[06:30] <teledyn> freakin' "features"...
[06:30] <slicky> Jordan_U:  hm kk
[06:31] <InkChild> So does anybody know how to merge/join avi files in ubuntu?
[06:31] <Jordan_U> slicky: run: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh   When it asks you for a driver choose "ATI" this time.
[06:31] <mom> oh no i'm using grub
[06:31] <paradox34690> is there a way to tell if I have an X Windows System development package
[06:31] <cmweb> dabar, i just did sudo mount -a and nothing happened only the girgle or my hard drive
[06:31] <dabaR> cmweb: Oh, ya, that totally makes sense now what you said there...:) well, save, close, and run sudo mount -a, and tell me whether you see the files with ls /media/hda3
[06:31] <mom> i just was hoping not to do extra steps but good old winblows
[06:31] <mom> alright thanks for the pages guys!
[06:31] <gotit> i have repaired the mbr now its using grub, but i want to edit the grub boot loader how could i do that, dont have the access
[06:31] <kodat> what the hell why cant i get automatix bleeder..i have the stupid automatix repository >.<
[06:31] <dabaR> mom: welcome
[06:32] <slicky> Jordan_U:  kk.. brb.. ill reboot this time
[06:32] <teledyn> or is this not a supermount problem?  how the hell does the ubuntu kernel try to automount CDs?
[06:32] <cmweb> dabar, their are files a lost+found is the only thing
[06:32] <Jordan_U> slicky: Again, shouldn't make a difference but OK.
[06:32] <feross> any fvwm users here? how can I run nm-applet when fvwm starts?
[06:32] <slicky> Jordan_U:  kk.. just restarting x then
[06:32] <dabaR> cmweb: show me the command you ran and output on pastebin, please.
[06:33] <dabaR> stevr1it: you can add those two commands to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh, at the bottom, then restart the computer and tell me whether it works.
[06:33] <cmweb> dabaR,
[06:33] <cmweb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33407/
[06:33] <dabaR> stevr1it: the two commands being the 2 commands you run to get it working.
[06:33] <stevr1it> ok
[06:33] <stevr1it> ok
[06:33] <ktrauberman> hey guys, Is there something that needs to be done to have edgy automagically pick up a WEP key from a wireless network like windows does?
[06:34] <slicky> Jordan_U:  hm.. now iv got a lower resolution
[06:34] <dabaR> cmweb: that means that we have successfully(not the correct spelling likely) mounted it and now it will mount every time you start the computer. Do you see it under your places menu?
[06:34] <nachtfalke> Question: how do i change my defualt soundcard
[06:34] <cmweb> dabaR, No
[06:34] <gotit> hi guys, i want to remove a "windows xp professional" line from boot loader , there are two of them
[06:34] <dabaR> ktrauberman: automatically pick up a wep key? I never heard of this.
[06:34] <ktrauberman> yeah
[06:34] <dabaR> cmweb: try killall gnome-panel.
[06:35] <ktrauberman> in windows, theres an option to automatically get the WEP key from the AP
[06:35] <cmweb> dabar, that dont look so hot
[06:35] <dabaR> gotit: do both work?
[06:35] <ktrauberman> rather than manually typeing it in
[06:35] <bimberi> nachtfalke: system -> preferences -> sound
[06:35] <dabaR> cmweb: it will restart the panel
[06:35] <nachtfalke> thanks bimberi
[06:35] <gotit> dabaR :nope only one works
[06:35] <bimberi> nachtfalke: yw :)
[06:35] <dabaR> gotit: which one, first or second?
[06:36] <gotit> dabaR :second
[06:36] <kodat> anyone have any problems installing bleeder?
[06:36] <Jordan_U> slicky: That makes sence if the reverse-engeneered drivers don't support as high a resolution, they probably don't support 3D accelleration but try anyway out of curiosity :)
[06:36] <cmweb> dabaR, still nothing
[06:36] <nachtfalke> it's always the simple things... and trying to google those things never works
[06:36] <dabaR> gotit: edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the first windows XP entry, if in doubt which one it is, post the contents of the file to paste.ubuntu-nl.org and I will look at it too.
[06:36] <cmweb> it wont open in places->computer ether
[06:37] <dabaR> cmweb: try clicking to it in nautilus from / to media to hda3.
[06:37] <klees> how can i tell what the block size of a filesystem?
[06:37] <gotit> dabaR: I dont have the access to the enter the system , is there any other way
[06:37] <kodat> there we go got it
[06:37] <cmweb> Ok it open their
[06:37] <dabaR> gotit: what do you mean dont have access?
[06:37] <cmweb> dabar, i got it open their
[06:38] <klees> anyone?
[06:38] <cmweb> dabar, but i have no permissions
[06:38] <kaiki> *klees* have you tried df from the command prompt?
[06:38] <stevr1it> dabaR: i have tryed to open it with gedit in root but it does not open
[06:38] <dabaR> cmweb: really, it gives you trouble with that? weird. one sec, please, brb
[06:38] <slicky> Jordan_U:  it was better b4 :D
[06:38] <slicky> ;D*
[06:38] <klees> df tells u the block size?
[06:38] <nachtfalke> i there a general how to about getting ubuntu up to speed after install
[06:38] <nachtfalke> i keep runnign into one's that are out of date
[06:38] <Tomcat_`> nachtfalke: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade should do it.
[06:39] <dabaR> stevr1it: you tried gksudo gedit /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh?
[06:39] <kaiki> *klees* it lists the 1k blocks
[06:39] <nachtfalke> i mean like a walk through
[06:39] <gotit> dabar: actually its our office system , and to whom it belongs is on a holiday,
[06:39] <Jordan_U> slicky: I am going to ask the people at #ubuntu-xgl if they have any idea why the modprobe fails.
[06:39] <Tomcat_`> nachtfalke: I'm not sure what you mean then... when you install Ubuntu and update it afterwards, you're done.
[06:39] <slicky> Jordan_U:  kk do so, how do i restore my drivers?
[06:39] <nachtfalke> i mean of like all the general software most people want
[06:40] <gotit> can i do it from booting with the cd
[06:40] <slicky> Jordan_U:  to the fglrx
[06:40] <stevr1it> DabaR: it says: GTK Accessibility Module initialized but does not open
[06:40] <nachtfalke> some webpage
[06:40] <dabaR> gotit: you need root permissions to edit that file. I can think of you rebooting the system, starting in recovery mode(or safe or single user, the term escapes me atm) and that gives you a root shell, but you would have to use a command line editor, nano is the simplest, they say.
[06:40] <dabaR> stevr1it: can you use vi, or try nano
[06:40] <stevr1it> ok
[06:40] <Jordan_U> slicky: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh And choose fglrx.
[06:41] <Kingsqueak> nachtfalke: tough to do that really, fire up 'synaptic' and browse and select what looks good to you
[06:41] <Jordan_U> slicky: If you want more options you can run that command without the "-phigh" switch.
[06:41] <gotit> dabaR: so what should i do than, i am not used to it
[06:41] <Kingsqueak> nachtfalke: people have such widely varying opinions on applications, just play around, you'll find what you like
[06:41] <slicky> Jordan_U:  kk .. dont thing i need more options right now
[06:41] <ixian_> nachtfalke, you could try automatix or easyubuntu, they can install a lot of common programs/utilities/etc
[06:42] <dabaR> gotit: leave it 'til the owner comes back.
[06:42] <cmweb> dabaR, dont forget about me here....
[06:42] <bimberi> nachtfalke: Ubuntu comes with a suite of 'general software' by default (email, web, office, IM, games ...)
[06:42] <Madpilot> ixian_, please don't recommend automatix here... giving advice that's known to break boxes is discouraged...
[06:42] <dabaR> cmweb: hehe, yup.
[06:42] <nachtfalke> thanks all
[06:42] <ixian_> i knew someone would say that
[06:43] <dabaR> cmweb: show me the output of ls -ld /media/hda3
[06:43] <Kingsqueak> well enough people show up here with automatix issues
[06:43] <atarinox> anyone know a good channel for web design?
[06:43] <gotit> dabaR: i need to do it , i have no other choice, i think i can if i boot from the cd and access the hard drive
[06:43] <cmweb> Dabar, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33412/
[06:43] <ixian_> ive been using it for months on dapper and edgy and no problems.. to each their own i guess
[06:43] <Madpilot> atarinox, #web, #css or #html
[06:43] <dabaR> gotit: that makes sense too. mount the drive, and edit it with sudo.
[06:43] <nachtfalke> alternative to auromatix?
[06:44] <ixian_> easyubuntu, but i dont think it works on edgy
[06:44] <Madpilot> !mp3 | nachtfalke
[06:44] <ubotu> nachtfalke: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:44] <dabaR> cmweb: we need to unmount the drive, so sudo umount /dev/hda3
[06:44] <cmweb> dabaR, ok unmounted
[06:44] <dabaR> cmweb: then we need to edit the file again, gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[06:45] <gotit> dabaR: mount? whats that is it like formating or partioning
[06:45] <cmweb> dabaR, ok im in edit
[06:45] <Calvin18> anyone experiencing problems with the intel pro/100 pcmcia network cards?
[06:46] <Calvin18> ubuntu loads e100 for it.. but i can't ping anyone else
[06:46] <dabaR> gotit: no, it is like telling your operating system how to use a partition of your hard disk
[06:46] <dabaR> cmweb: to start, I do not like the spacing on that last line, copy a line from above, and edit it to have the right values and spacing.
[06:47] <gotit> dabaR: so any experties required to mount the drive , i am lost here
[06:47] <kishan> hi
[06:47] <cmweb> ok i got it lined up
[06:47] <kishan> need some help with network manager
[06:47] <kaiki> hi
[06:47] <dabaR> gotit: are you gonna boot the live CD? If so, do that now, and come back
[06:47] <cmweb> dabaR, i got it all lined up
[06:47] <Kingsqueak> Calvin18: how new are you?  meaning, did you see if the interface is up, did you run dhclient on it etc.
[06:47] <seth1248> What is the command to list partition's uuid?
[06:47] <dabaR> cmweb: make sure it is the same exact thing, spaces vs. tabs could make a difference.
[06:47] <Kingsqueak> seth1248: blkid /dev/whatever1
[06:48] <gotit> dabaR: ok
[06:48] <cmweb> dabaR, ok
[06:48] <seth1248> Kingsqueak: Thank You
[06:48] <cmweb> one min
[06:48] <kishan> well i have problem with network ..it is not recongnizing the wireless connection
[06:48] <nachtfalke> what do you all use for irc in ubuntu?
[06:48] <stuart> konversation
[06:48] <kaiki> *nachtfalke* xchat
[06:48] <kishan> problem is with the network manager
[06:48] <Kingsqueak> irssi
[06:49] <kishan> can any one help please
[06:49] <Calvin18> Kingsqueak: well i think i can configure the network card thru shell..
[06:49] <stuart> can someone explain how to remove software not listed in synaptic (particularly jre)
[06:49] <kaiki> *kishan* What's the problem, kishan?
[06:49] <cmweb> dabaR, ok
[06:49] <Calvin18> Kingsqueak: but the funny thing is that for some links it works...
[06:49] <Kingsqueak> Calvin18: so if you do a manual   ifconfig   it works?
[06:49] <stuart> konversation seems nicer than xchat
[06:49] <noiesmo> stuart, thru terminal you can use apt-get remove packagename
[06:49] <dabaR> stuart: how did you install it?
[06:50] <Calvin18> Kingsqueak: no.. i used ifconfig to do it manually
[06:50] <kishan> kaiki : i have installed the network manager but it is not recongnising the wireless network
[06:50] <Calvin18> Kingsqueak: i believe it has something to do the link autodetection..
[06:50] <Kingsqueak> Calvin18: you remembered to run 'ip route' or 'route' to add the default gateway too right?
[06:50] <Calvin18> Kingsqueak: possible to set it as a insmod parameter?
[06:50] <Kingsqueak> Calvin18: ah, hmm ethtool or mii-tool set it, not sure if you can force it on mod load
[06:50] <stuart> noiesmo and dabar - i followed Sun's installation instructions, except i type ./name of bin file while the file was sitting in my home directory
[06:51] <stuart> needles to say it does not work
[06:51] <Calvin18> Kingsqueak: yes i've done that... but it can't even reach the gateway.. i think i am not planning to reach too far yet
[06:51] <stuart> needless
[06:51] <cmweb> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33414/
[06:51] <Kingsqueak> Calvin18: k, so the situation is that you are plugging and unplugging without a reboot or reset right?
[06:51] <gotit> dabaR: cant do it dont have the internet access there, its in the other building
[06:51] <Kingsqueak> Calvin18: it could be getting confused on auto-neg, I've seen that happen with other nics
[06:51] <dabaR> cmweb: now save the file, close and run sudo mount -a again, then see whether the ls -ld /media/hda3 command still does the same thing.
[06:52] <Kingsqueak> Calvin18: the only thing I've done to get around that is to just reboot the box or bring the nic up and down a few times
[06:52] <Calvin18> Kingsqueak: i shud try and play around with the settings again
[06:52] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/MTGUMG60.html
[06:52] <cmweb> dabaR, you do relize that their is nothing in the other drive....
[06:52] <KnowledgEngi> is correct ?????
[06:52] <KnowledgEngi> this is the procedure that i do about rebuilding kernel adding a support in the configuration
[06:52] <dabaR> gotit: cmweb -ld will show permissions and owner for the partition/directory
[06:52] <bimberi> kishan: have you commented out all but the "lo" interface in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:52] <jimle> Can anyone tell be the command that runs the Xorg config thing?
[06:52] <dabaR> cmweb: that was for you above
[06:52] <cmweb> mount: special device /dev/hdb3 does not exist
[06:52] <bimberi> !xconfig
[06:52] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[06:53] <jimle> bimberi, thank you
[06:53] <bimberi> jimle: np :)
[06:53] <noiesmo> stuart, you should just be able to delete the folder it installed in
[06:53] <dabaR> cmweb: where did  the hdb3 come from? we are working with hda3
[06:54] <stuart> thanks noiesmo i can handle that
[06:54] <cmweb> clint@clint-desktop:~$ sudo mount -a
[06:54] <cmweb> mount: special device /dev/hdb3 does not exist
[06:54] <gotit> dabaR: owner of the directory, you mean i cant browes even the directory, and edit the file
[06:54] <kishan> bimberi: i have my network reconized by edgy by default and i have no problem connecting with net the problem that i have is i am trying out network manager which does not recognize the wireless network
[06:54] <noiesmo> stuart, you can get java from multiverse repo or you can make your own deb with 5 easy steps
[06:55] <dabaR> gotit: the easiest thing, I think would be to boot into single user mode, recovery in the menu, and to run nano /boot/grub/menu.lst, edit the file to remove the not working windows entry, then save with ctrl-X, and reboot, if at any point you do not feel comfortable about it, then stop...
[06:55] <noiesmo> stuart, that way if you want to update it easier
[06:55] <cmweb> dabar. my bad
[06:55] <stuart> noisemo i could not see java in multiverse
[06:55] <cmweb> dabar, i got it going
[06:55] <dabaR> gotit: that post was not for you, actually, sorry, the one about the owner.
[06:55] <cmweb> dabarnow what
[06:55] <cmweb> dabar, No what
[06:55] <bimberi> kishan: yes, do  you mean that the network doesn't appear in the applet's list?
[06:55] <cmweb> i cant type
[06:55] <dabaR> cmweb: well, what part did you get going?
[06:55] <noiesmo> stuart, sun-java5-jre and sun-java5-plugin
[06:55] <kishan> bimberi: yes u got me right
[06:55] <cmweb> dabar, i messed the file up i fixed it now it didnt give the errpr
[06:56] <cmweb> dabar, drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-11-21 12:46 /media/hda3
[06:56] <bimberi> kishan: check/edit  /etc/network/interfaces (as above)
[06:56] <soulfire45> Hello
[06:56] <kaiki> hello
[06:56] <soulfire45> hey kaiki
[06:56] <soulfire45> is there a ubuntu-devel channel?
[06:56] <gotit> dabaR: "nano /boot/grub/menu.lst"=edit config.ini am i right??
[06:57] <seth1248> Every time an update updates the kernel it updates grub's menu.lst to point to /dev/hda3 for the kernel, but my kernel is on /dev/hda2; How can I make it set the correct partition so that I don't have to manually change menu.lst on every update?
[06:57] <stuart> noisemo - i enabled all the repositories that come "built in" to kubuntu - do i need to add another to get multiverse?
[06:57] <kishan> bimberi: what do u want me to do
[06:58] <[tasty] freeze> I used apt-get remove and then reinstalled a package later on, but it did not readd the init script... can someone help eme out
[06:58] <dabaR> gotit: not that good with windows any more...:-/ but it will edit the menu that you see at startup
[06:58] <dabaR> cmweb: unmount, edit the file again.
[06:58] <noiesmo> stuart, you add universe and multiverse after repos and then do update if you doing it in graphic click apply and then update
[06:58] <bimberi> kishan: comment out (with a '#') anything except lines like 'auto lo' and 'iface lo...'
[06:59] <kishan> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33415/
[06:59] <noiesmo> stuart, like so deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse
[06:59] <kishan> this is the file
[06:59] <cmweb> dabar, how do i change the permissions on it. Im ok now i can get to it but how do i change permissions
[06:59] <dabaR> cmweb: that is what we are working on.
[06:59] <gotit> dabaR: wait i am tring it or other system with windows to see if i can mount..
[07:00] <noiesmo> stuart, also on backports I added it also
[07:00] <Spee_Der> soulfire45: ry ubuntu-devel
[07:00] <stuart> noiesmo is that the correct multiverse for kubuntu too?
[07:00] <FloK> i do apt.get install flashplugin-nonfree but cant confirm the license screen
[07:00] <dabaR> cmweb: so edit the file. the permissions are set at mount time.
[07:00] <bimberi> kishan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[07:00] <cmweb> dabaR: can i do chown clint /media/hda3
[07:00] <soulfire45> yup
[07:00] <dabaR> cmweb: you can try anything you want, and let me know how it worked...
[07:00] <noiesmo> stuart, I'm running kde yes it is its aussie thou
[07:00] <FloK> paged to the end of the screen but not possible to enter "ok"
[07:00] <FloK> any idea?
[07:01] <cmweb> dabaR: you know something i dont. That will scre it up wont it?
[07:01] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/MTGUMG60.html
[07:01] <noiesmo> stuart, k you can use same you aussie i see
[07:01] <KnowledgEngi> someone can tall me if this is correct ???
[07:01] <soulfire45> I am having trouble with installing the IA64 ISO
[07:01] <bimberi> kishan: in particulat the section headed "Configuring Devices"
[07:01] <stuart> noisemo - ive got all the repos enabled that come built in, (incl. backports), but still i can't see the jre packages you mentioned
[07:01] <dabaR> cmweb: no, it just won't work as far as I know. This is precision stuff, the operating system will not let you mess up too much of it.
[07:01] <soulfire45> the installer starts..but when it gets to loading from the cd it says that the cd is not a cd it can use..
[07:01] <KnowledgEngi> i just recompiling that kernel configuring a different cpu timer frequency
[07:02] <stuart> noisemo - yes im in sydney
[07:02] <dabaR> cmweb: well, that is not really true, but in this case it is pretty safe.
[07:02] <dabaR> cmweb: we need to edit the file, we are almost there...
[07:02] <noiesmo> stuart, ok one sec will post my sources.list and you can see
[07:02] <dabaR> cmweb: do yo uremember the unmount and edit commands?
[07:02] <stuart> thanks
[07:02] <cmweb> dabaR: commands commmands just give me commands
[07:03] <dabaR> cmweb: they are in your shell history, try the up arrow on the keyboard, it is very useful
[07:03] <Vaske_Car> Is there any application to change CLOCK look?
[07:03] <tim|iBook> How do I get sudo to edit the X11 conf file?
[07:03] <cmweb> dabaR: 8-)
[07:03] <cmweb> dabaR: i got a croll mouse i dont have to
[07:03] <SurfnKid> how can i mount my ISO DVD files on a computer and make it look like a CD but in reality its a USB HDD
[07:03] <bimberi> !xconfig | tim|iBook
[07:03] <ubotu> tim|iBook: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[07:03] <dabaR> tim|iBook: 2 ways, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, or sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:04] <SurfnKid> so that Synaptic can accept the source device as a CDROM and let me read from it
[07:04] <dabaR> tim|iBook: + numerous other editor ways
[07:04] <Lynoure> SurfnKid: mount -o loop -t iso9660 filename.iso /mnt/
[07:04] <Vaske_Car> dabaR, jel ima nesto da se promjene izgled casovnika u Gnome?
[07:04] <dabaR> !iso | SurfnKid
[07:04] <ubotu> SurfnKid: To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:04] <SurfnKid> yeah i can do that loop mount
[07:05] <dabaR> Vaske_Car: well, change it how?  right click on it and then properties
[07:05] <SurfnKid> but on Synaptic
[07:05] <SurfnKid> if I want to add a CDROM
[07:05] <SurfnKid> it wont let me look at any other source, except a device... typically a DVD/CDROM
[07:05] <Lynoure> SurfnKid: do it outside synaptic, then use it inside synaptic?
[07:05] <dabaR> SurfnKid: man apt-cdrom is best I can do for that
[07:05] <noiesmo> stuart, ok here's mine I'm on Kubuntu Edgy with Beryl KDE3.5.5 http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/index.php?topic=Configuration
[07:05] <cmweb> dabaR: like i said its easyer by just giving the commands. I took me a month to memorize DOS commands
[07:05] <Vaske_Car> dabaR, it does not have fetarue to chage its look
[07:05] <SurfnKid> ah
[07:06] <dabaR> cmweb: well, sudo umount /dev/hda3;gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:06] <gop> !itunes
[07:06] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[07:06] <noiesmo> stuart, if your on dapper you change all edgy to dapper
[07:06] <dabaR> Vaske_Car: I really do not know how to change it. I use xclock
[07:06] <SurfnKid> Lynoure, well you add the CD source in Synaptic, but how can you add the actual /mnt/path instead
[07:06] <cmweb> dabaR, dont be hidin from me, what do i do in the file
[07:07] <byro> anyone have to use pppoe here?
[07:07] <stuart> thanks noisemo
[07:07] <Lynoure> SurfnKid: Sorry, it's been while since I was using synaptic.
[07:07] <dabaR> byro: yes
[07:07] <SurfnKid> Lynoure, np, what u use?
[07:07] <dabaR> cmweb: replace "users" with "rw" on that line, then save close the file, and sudo mount -a again, ls -ld /media/hda3 again, and post output again.
[07:08] <gop> I got one question what is the proper way of getting itunes installed or used on ubuntu
[07:08] <dabaR> cmweb: I hid cause I use xclock
[07:08] <gop> is thier any unoffical way
[07:08] <byro> dabaR: well pppoeconf works great for me, but i wish i didn't have to use pppoe at all. Is it because of my dsl modem/router itself? i wish it just made a network connection and retrieved settings from dhcp
[07:08] <Lynoure> SurfnKid: I'm mostly on Kubuntu, so I use Adept, and very often also the command line stuff (apt-get and aptitude)
[07:08] <dabaR> byro: does it work? it is not up to you, dsl uses pppoe, so get cable if you really find a reason to not like pppoe
[07:08] <darkmatter> gop, wine... but its not the perfect solution
[07:09] <SurfnKid> ah yes
[07:09] <noiesmo> stuart, feel free look round site no ads or anything just info you'll find other usefull tips :)
[07:09] <SurfnKid> im starting to like aptitude, forced to when X doesnt work and have to get network, apps going
[07:09] <cmweb> dabaR, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33417/
[07:09] <byro> dabaR: yes thanks. pppoeconf works great for me. I just would like to avoid using "pon dsl-provider" and "poff" but that's OK it's not a biggie ;) thanks
[07:09] <kaiki> bryo: if you have a modem or router that does the pppoe for you, your linux box should be able to be on dhcp or static
[07:09] <dabaR> byro: you have to do that every time you start the computer?
[07:10] <Viscid2> Hey. I just did a clean install of Edgy Eft. I had Dapper working fine. But when this one boots into gnome, everything freezes and becomes unresponsive and I have to hard reboot. Has anyone else had similar issues?
[07:10] <stuart> cool, thanks noisemo
[07:10] <dabaR> cmweb: hm, why won't it let us write to it...
[07:10] <kupesoft> what's the good multiplayer game for ubuntu
[07:10] <byro> yes but only because i am running ubuntu 6.06 live cd (i'm visiting my aunt's house while she's gone and i greatly prefer linux to windows)
[07:10] <Samus_Aran> hi.  I am using 6.10 and would like to try out SWAT, but going to http://localhost:901/ gives me nothing.  it is listed in inetd, and apt-get install swat is done
[07:10] <omkar86> is there any customised ubuntu install cd tht has development(programming) packages?
[07:11] <cmweb> !swat
[07:11] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:11] <cmweb> oh
[07:11] <Samus_Aran> kupesoft: "the" good game ?  there are lots ..
[07:11] <Lynoure> kupesoft: I like A Tale in the Desert but it's not free
[07:11] <kupesoft> Sorry, what's the good multiplayer game for Debian
[07:11] <Samus_Aran> kupesoft: for some free ones, try out Savage and Enemy Territory
[07:11] <byro> kaiki: this is an old, old modem.. speedstream 5360
[07:11] <byro> i'd pay for my aunt to have a newer modem if i could get one to do the pppoe for me
[07:12] <Lynoure> kupesoft: My answer still stays
[07:12] <FloK> i had trouble with flashplugin-nonfree and now every apt-get install wants to reinstall it but the archive is missing
[07:12] <FloK> how can i remove that ?
[07:12] <Crell> Hi all.  Odd question.  I'm setting up an ubuntu-server Edgy mail server.  Why does the postfix package depend on, of all things, emacs?
[07:12] <dabaR> byro: well, ya, you have to run pppoeconf every time you boot the live cd, no help for that either that I know of. There are dsl routers that use dhcp on the lan side, look into a device like that, if you want to spend monies.
[07:12] <FloK> (so it wont be installed at all?)
[07:13] <Samus_Aran> cmweb: there is no text "swat" on either of those posted URLs
[07:13] <byro> dabaR: ok thanks
[07:13] <kaiki> bryo: you don't even need a very modern one, a $20 used bridge for dsl should have that capacity
[07:13] <Samus_Aran> FloK: dpkg -r flashplugin-nonfree
[07:13] <balder> hello
[07:13] <cmweb> Samus_aran, that was info for me. I had no clue wat Swat was
[07:13] <crimsun> Samus_Aran: needs to be -P
[07:13] <Samus_Aran> FloK: or apt-get -f install
[07:13] <dabaR> cmweb: I will be right back with the solution, I hope.
[07:13] <Samus_Aran> cmweb: oh, heh
[07:13] <cmweb> yep to both of ya
[07:14] <byro> kaiki: can i just go out and buy one? or do i have to have ATT sell me one (ugh!)?
[07:14] <Samus_Aran> cmweb: strange that the bot gives out a page with no mention of SWAT (Samba Web Administration Tool)
[07:14] <slicky> how do i reload my modules?
[07:14] <Samus_Aran> I've never tried SWAT before and wanted to give it a go
[07:14] <cmweb> THATS what it is
[07:14] <dabaR> cmweb: hm...
[07:14] <cmweb> samba is the domain thing right?
[07:14] <dabaR> cmweb: samba is a windows share server
[07:15] <dabaR> cmweb: kinda sorta
[07:15] <Samus_Aran> cmweb: it is compatible with Windows Networking (file/printer shares, wins server, domain controllers)
[07:15] <cmweb> dam, i just read the thing DUH
[07:15] <FloK> dpkg: error processing flashplugin-nonfree (--remove):
[07:15] <FloK>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[07:15] <FloK>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[07:15] <FloK> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:15] <stevr1it> gnome does not work properly,  at the start up says error daemon reply blocked. i am using ubuntu 6.10
[07:15] <FloK> @ Samus_Aran
[07:15] <cmweb> Flok, your verging
[07:16] <dabaR> cmweb: sudo umount /dev/hda3;sudo mount -text3 -orw /dev/hda3 /media/hda3;ls -ld /media/hda3, post output
[07:16] <cmweb> well crud, im going to be stuck with no space i got 1gb left
[07:16] <FloK> dont understand verging, cmweb , you mean pasting too much? sorry
[07:16] <dabaR> FloK: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree
[07:16] <FloK> brb
[07:17] <balder> some body here can let me know,  how I can download the new Ubuntu release?
[07:17] <cmweb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33419/
[07:17] <dabaR> !download | balder
[07:17] <ubotu> balder: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[07:17] <cmweb> balder, the upgrade icon
[07:17] <Samus_Aran> FloK: if that doesn't work, you can tell dpkg to forcibly remove it with something like: dpkg --force-all --purge flashplugin-nonfree
[07:18] <syntaxx> what happen to tvtime in edgy?
[07:18] <pilibeen> is there a flash animation program for ubuntu?
[07:18] <balder> thanks  guys
[07:18] <pilibeen> or similar vector-animation app
[07:18] <dabaR> cmweb: something is weird... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33420/
[07:18] <crimsun> dapper and edgy will probably both receive new backports of flashplugin-nonfree next week
[07:18] <Samus_Aran> when I upgraded to 6.10, it took three tries before it would install the Flash plugin
[07:18] <Samus_Aran> it just sat there happily not downloading it the other two times
[07:18] <stevr1it> gnome does not work properly,  at the start up after 5 minutes of  empty window it says error daemon reply blocked. i am using ubuntu 6.10. what can i do?
[07:19] <crimsun> I uploaded a flashplugin-nonfree to feisty that fixes nearly all of the known issues a couple hours ago
[07:19] <cmweb> dabaR, im already passworded in
[07:19] <Samus_Aran> stevr1it: I don't know much about Gnome, but I suggest asking in the official channel, as many of the Gnome developers are there
[07:19] <stevr1it> ok
[07:19] <Samus_Aran> stevr1it: irc://irc.gimp.org/#gnome
[07:19] <dabaR> Does anyone know why sudo mount -text3 -orw /dev/hda3 /media/hda3 would give drwxr-xr-x permissions, and on anotehr computer sudo mount -text3 -orw /dev/hda9 /media/hda9/ gives drwxrwxrwx permissions.
[07:20] <dabaR> cmweb: well, no not that... what is weird is that I get right permissions, and you get wrong permissions with the same command
[07:20] <stuart> noisemo, I already had http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ listed in repositories - but despite doing a search in synaptic for java (name and description) I can't see either of the 2 files u mentioned
[07:20] <Samus_Aran> dabaR: not sure why the defaults would be different, but just set the umask and it will be the same on both
[07:20] <cmweb> dabaR, maby ljl is right im not made out for linux
[07:20] <dabaR> ljl told you that?
[07:21] <cmweb> dabar, shes getting darn close to the mark....
[07:21] <dabaR> Samus_Aran: set the umask option? that is for ntfs only, though?
[07:21] <kaiki> anyone recommend a way to troubleshot a touchpad on a laptop to see if linux is messing up or if it's hardware?
[07:21] <cmweb> hes*
[07:21] <dabaR> ljl was joking, I am sure:))
[07:21] <Vaske_Car> does anybody use buici-clock?
[07:21] <Samus_Aran> dabaR: oops, I was thinking FAT32, not Ext3
[07:21] <gop> hmm this webiste is good
[07:21] <gop> http://www.frankscorner.org/index.php?p=itunes6
[07:21] <Samus_Aran> dabaR: (it works for any filesystem that doesn't have its own perms)
[07:21] <cmweb> dabaR, all i know is that this is SOOOO much easyer on windows
[07:22] <PurpleMonkey> how do we set the DNS setting so that it will not reset verytime the window goes to sleep?
[07:22] <gotit> dabaR: i think  i have to install ubuntu on some system and then try on it and do it there where the real prob resides :)
[07:22] <dabaR> gotit: maybe, I do not think so, though.
[07:22] <gotit> dabaR: really so what do you suggest than
[07:22] <Samus_Aran> cmweb: Windows is not actually much easier to use, it is just easier because of 1) you have been using Win32 for years, or 2) you can get help with Win32 issues much faster/easier as you have that "support network" already in your arsenal
[07:22] <dabaR> gotit: I told you.
[07:23] <derrick> join
[07:23] <derrick> help join
[07:23] <Samus_Aran> cmweb: if you had spent those years with GNU/Linux instead, you'd think Windows makes no sense =)
[07:23] <cmweb> Samus_aran, yeah over 6 years of it (im 15)
[07:23] <byro> Samus_Aran: good point
[07:23] <hanasaki> can someone help with oidentd or similar?  i have it installed and setup ~/.oidentd  but it still idents as my userid
[07:23] <joe74> I'm using Edgy, when I try to download a specific theme (saved not installed) it suddenly crashes, it means I can't save it to a local folder, anyone with this problem?
[07:24] <dabaR> gotit: the easiest thing, I think would be to go over to the computer, start in single user recovery mode, and sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove the entry, then save the file, and restart.
[07:24] <dabaR> gotit: guess I never finished that sentence...
[07:24] <gimmulf> Anyone who used afraid.org for DNS hosting? i dont understand howto make my server use the domain i put there
[07:24] <gotit> dabaR: boot from the cd in single user recovery mode and ...............
[07:24] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, how are you downloading the theme?  and where from?  You mean a Gnome theme, right?
[07:24] <cmweb> Oh well, i guess im not webhosting any time soon.....
[07:24] <joe74> Sorry Art Manager
[07:24] <Samus_Aran> cmweb: the people that pick up GNU/Linux the fastest are actually those that haven't used Windows all that long
[07:24] <gotit> dabar: :)
[07:24] <dabaR> cmweb: sudo umount /dev/hda3
[07:24] <joe74> I didn't specify that
[07:25] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, so, an Art Manager theme?  I'm not familiar with that program...
[07:25] <cmweb> dabar, im almost getting to where i know your next command
[07:25] <PurpleMonkey> any one can help me? How do i set the network so that the DNS number will not reset everytime the computer goes to sleep?? help please
[07:25] <dabaR> cmweb: sudo chmod 777 /media/hda3;sudo mount -text3 -orw /dev/hda3 /media/hda3
[07:25] <gotit> dabar: but you told me to mount the drive or some thing like that
[07:25] <jackrazz> anyone here using knoda with postgre from within ubuntu?
[07:25] <Samus_Aran> so does anyone happen to know how I can figure out why I can't get to the SWAT screen at http://localhost:901/ ?
[07:25] <dabaR> gotit: that is a different option.
[07:25] <dabaR> gotit: this one is least hassle in my opinion.
[07:25] <joe74> Art Manager is on the repos, comes with ubuntu
[07:26] <dabaR> gotit: YOu just boot in recovery mode, and edit the file, then restart
[07:26] <daaaman64> Alright I have a video encoded exactly how I want all my videos, however I do not know how it is encoded... In other words, I don't know what to tell mencoder.  Is there a way I can find out how the video is encoded?
[07:26] <cmweb> dabar, ok
[07:26] <dabaR> cmweb: done?
[07:26] <cmweb> dabar, yes
[07:26] <gotit> dabaR: ok i will try it right now i'll out for some time as the comp is not here :) thanks
[07:26] <dabaR> cmweb: show me output of ls -ld /media/hda3
[07:26] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, yea im not seeing it...    weird.   in any case, have you checked on ubuntuforums.org for someone with a similiar issue?
[07:27] <cmweb> dabar its still in root
[07:27] <dabaR> gotit: good luck
[07:27] <cmweb> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-11-21 12:46 /media/hda3
 no, I already googled it abit...no one with same issue
[07:28] <joe74> all i want is change login manager to one I saw there
[07:28] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, hmm ok.  Let me try installing the program to see if I can duplicate the issue
[07:28] <stuart> noismo  I already had http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ listed in repositories - but despite doing a search in synaptic for java (name and description) I can't see either of the 2 files u mentioned
[07:28] <joe74> ok thx
[07:28] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, ooh, so this is something related to Gnome and not a program
[07:28] <stuart> noiesmo  I already had http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ listed in repositories - but despite doing a search in synaptic for java (name and description) I can't see either of the 2 files u mentioned
[07:28] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, you want to change the theme of a part of gnome
[07:28] <daaaman64> No one knows this?  I can move onto the forums.
[07:28] <noiesmo> stuart, did you have universe and multiverse after that and did you run update
[07:28] <joe74> yeah, like the login manager, or save themes to my folder, that's when it crashes
[07:28] <Samus_Aran> can someone please run the app 'qiv' (Quick Image Viewer) on Ubuntu 6.10 and tell me if it crashes ?  it worked fine on 6.06 but is crashing for me every time on 6.10
[07:29] <syntaxx> how can i install tvtime if its not the in the edgy repository?
[07:29] <cmweb> samus-aran THATS FUNNY
[07:29] <crimsun> !info tvtime
[07:29] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 636 kB, installed size 1768 kB
[07:29] <Samus_Aran> all I get is: Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)   serial 109 error_code 8 request_code 62 minor_code 0
[07:29] <crimsun> looks pretty existent to me, syntaxx
[07:29] <fyrestrtr> daaaman64: if you run the video through mplayer from the command line, it will tell you what codec and resolution the video has -- that should get you started.
[07:29] <syntaxx> crimsun: but when i apt-cache search tvtime it doesnt show
[07:29] <syntaxx> crimsun: and when i use synaptic it also doesnt show
[07:29] <crimsun> syntaxx: do you have universe enabled?
[07:29] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, What website are you getting the themes from?  Usually, you just drag the file with the theme onto the themes manager (found by going System - Preferences - Themes )
[07:30] <syntaxx> crimsun: how do i know? i just installed ubuntu
[07:30] <joe74> FunnyLookinHat it only crashes when I want to download to a folder, not when I install, but to change login manager I must first save it to local so I can install as sudo
[07:30] <Samus_Aran> it's quite annoying that "qiv", one of the tiniest, simplest image viewers ever, is now crashing.  I use it for my e-mail notification pop-ups, so I no longer see them ..
[07:30] <joe74> under synaptic look for gnome art
[07:30] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, give me the website of the file you are trying to download
[07:30] <Samus_Aran> cmweb: why exactly is a crashing app funny ?
[07:31] <dabaR> cmweb: try sudo chmod 777 /media/hda3; ls -ld /media/hda3 and post output
[07:31] <joe74> no there is no website, it automatically downloads the previews
[07:31] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, or are you trying to download it through gnome art?
[07:31] <joe74> so I don't know where they are at
[07:31] <cmweb> Samus_Aran, your trying to get some one else to do it
[07:31] <joe74> FunnyLookinHat yes, gnome art
[07:31] <crimsun> !components > syntaxx
[07:31] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, ahh ok, one sec
[07:31] <joe74> FunnyLookinHat Art Manager=Gnome Art :) lol
[07:32] <stuart> noisemo, I already had that address listed and have clicked "reload" - am i missing something?
[07:32] <joe74> FunnyLookinHat thx
[07:32] <cmweb> dabar, drwxrwxrwx 3 root root 4096 2006-11-21 12:46 /media/hda3  <<< that turned green
[07:32] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, haha yea I found it now.  It's installing.
[07:32] <daaaman64> thank you fyrestrtr, seem to be seeing what I need. Also avidmux is great for converting videos heh.  Just not in bulk.
[07:32] <joe74> FunnyLookinHat ok
[07:32] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, you know, just an FYI, you can usually find good themes by googling gnome themes and then you download .tar.gz files and you just drag them onto the themes window from System - Preferences - Themes
[07:32] <dabaR> cmweb: weird. well, damn, that fixed the issue actually. run sudo chown -R /media/hda3
[07:33] <dabaR> sorry
[07:33] <cmweb> dabar, your missing a variable
[07:33] <Samus_Aran> cmweb: a crashing app on GNU/Linux isn't going to cause the kernel to crash or something, like it often does on Win32.  I just want to see if this is a universal 6.10 problem, or specific to my install
[07:33] <cmweb> dabar, what user
[07:33] <joe74> FunnyLookinHat ok, thx for the tip, didn't know that, I've always been a KDE user
[07:33] <dabaR> cmweb: sudo chown -R clint:clint /media/hda3
[07:33] <stuart> noiesmo - main restricted universe multiverse are listed in my repositories list (both deb and deb-src)
[07:33] <fyrestrtr> Samus_Aran: fwiw, I just installed it and got the same error. Check LP to see if its a reported issue, if not, report it.
[07:33] <friedtofu> ok -.- how do i change my resolution to 1440x900 ... i've been trying for 5-6 hrs now - intel 82915G/GV/910GL - i used the 915resolution hack - it doesnt load the 1440x900 - and when it does (cuz i set it as the only option) my monitor doesnt show it (it works perfectly under windows)
[07:33] <Samus_Aran> fyrestrtr: thanks
[07:34] <cmweb> ok
[07:34] <pilibeen> is there a quick command to kill opera when it hangs?
[07:34] <cmweb> dabar, i have writing now
[07:34] <dabaR> cmweb: I can't believe that works actually, I wasted some of your time..but it works the other way here :~/
[07:34] <noiesmo> stuart, ok open a terminal and do this please
[07:34] <cmweb> YAYAYAYA
[07:34] <Samus_Aran> fyrestrtr: doing an strace on it shows it trying to open up icon files that don't exist, presumably because they were moved (the moving of the Xorg dirs)
[07:34] <pilibeen> ...i can't do a search for it...since my browser is froze
[07:34] <fyrestrtr> Samus_Aran: if you know where its trying to locate them from, a symlink might be a quick fix.
[07:34] <stuart> noisemo, ok
[07:34] <dabaR> cmweb: you will likely haev to chown it every time you boot
[07:34] <morten_> my harddrive seems to have made a small boo-boo, and the file libapt-pkg-libc6.4-6.so.3.51 is gone. obviously, this means no apt tools function. what file do i need to manually download and dpkg -i?
[07:34] <noiesmo> stuart, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search java
[07:34] <cmweb> dabar, my system likes my way of doing things :-D:-D
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> pilibeen: from a terminal, sudo killall opera
[07:35] <syntaxx> crimsun: ok so i will add new repositories for edgy? i only have ubuntu 6.06 dapper universe
[07:35] <kaiki> Is this the right channel to ask what a specific message in a log file means?
[07:35] <cmweb> dabar, Thanks my man
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> noiesmo: you don't need sudo for apt-cache
[07:35] <dabaR> cmweb: welcome
[07:35] <pilibeen> thanks
[07:35] <noiesmo> fyrestrtr, yeah i know just habit
[07:35] <daaaman64> fyrestrtr, I am going to see if it worked, it is so I can play it in my Wii :).
[07:35] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, well unfortunately - it seems like it's a problem with the program ...  so we can't get a fix for art-manager/gnome-art    ....   but, you can go ahead and install themes the way most other gnome users do...  I suggest using http://gnomelook.org/
[07:35] <friedtofu> hm, where does it show a list of all the users in Xchat?
[07:35] <Samus_Aran> fyrestrtr: I used "locate" .. it's looking for /usr/share/icons/gnome/index.theme in various default places that no longer exist (e.g. /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons).  I will try a symlink for the two files
[07:35] <fyrestrtr> kaiki: depends on the program that's generating the log :) ask and ye shall find.
[07:36] <crimsun> !info tvtime dapper
[07:36] <ubotu> tvtime: A high quality television application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 627 kB, installed size 1744 kB
[07:36] <Samus_Aran> fyrestrtr: hm, actually, it seems to find that file ... right before it crashes.
[07:36] <noiesmo> stuart, is it showing hits to universe and multiverse repos
[07:36] <crimsun> syntaxx: it's also in dapper/universe
[07:36] <Roscar> Hi all, Dirty newb here hoping to get help installing a piece of software.
[07:36] <joe74> FunnyLookinHat ok, so it does crash when attempting to save locally, thx I thought something missconfigured here
[07:36] <Samus_Aran> fyrestrtr: and then it continues to look for it in other places.  apparently it's confused =p
[07:36] <kaiki> In Xorg.0.log it has ProcXCloseDevice to close or not ? Trying to find out if that is a bad thing, or just noise
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> Samus_Aran: we all are at some point :P
[07:37] <noiesmo> stuart, Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages & Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Packages for example
[07:37] <Roscar> I'm trying to install stepmania (stepmania.com). Can anybody help me out?
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> kaiki: what level message is it? (WW) (EE) or what?
[07:37] <dabaR> I found a bug in oo.o where it crashes when I paste something from it to gmail in epiphany
[07:37] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, nah...   just a buggy program...  I don't think it was meant to be used really for ubuntu, looks more like it was just included because it was synched over from debian
[07:37] <syntaxx> crimsun: i have it but i cant find tvtime in it
[07:37] <fyrestrtr> dabaR: its likely a bug in epiphany.
[07:37] <joe74> FunnyLookinHat, well thx for your help and tips, I'll go and google some themes then...take care and good luck
[07:38] <dabaR> fyrestrtr: oo.o crashes...
[07:38] <Samus_Aran> fyrestrtr: it seems it is the mouse cursor icon it can't find anywhere (it looks in over 50 places for it).  will symlink that one.
[07:38] <stuart> noisemo,
[07:38] <stuart> stuart@stuart-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search java
[07:38] <stuart> Get:1 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg [189B]
[07:38] <stuart> Get:2 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates Release.gpg [191B]
[07:38] <stuart> Get:3 http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports Release.gpg [191B]
[07:38] <stuart> Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release
[07:38] <FunnyLookinHat> joe74, : )   have a good night
[07:38] <daaaman64> fyrestrtr: it worked thank you very much :)
[07:38] <joe74> FunnyLookinHat, same
[07:38] <Samus_Aran> fyrestrtr: and a locate shows that the file is no longer on Ubuntu ..
[07:38] <crimsun> syntaxx: I doubt you have it, then.
[07:38] <Phantom-X> ordered 600 CDs now
[07:38] <Phantom-X> :)
[07:38] <fyrestrtr> Samus_Aran: if you get it to work, would appreciate you posting it on the LP
[07:38] <crimsun> syntaxx: pastebin the output from ``apt-cache policy tvtime''
[07:39] <syntaxx> crimsun: unable to locate package tvtime
[07:39] <stuart> noisemo, i got a bunch of hits including...
[07:39] <stuart> ...Hit http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports/multiverse Sources
[07:39] <Samus_Aran> fyrestrtr: will post a bug report tomorrow, need to finish studying, certification exam in the morning.  adios
[07:40] <noiesmo> stuart, ok so there were multiverse and universe hits ?
[07:40] <stuart> noisemo, yes
[07:41] <noiesmo> apt-cache search sun-jre stuart
[07:41] <crimsun> syntaxx: now pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.lisnt
[07:41] <crimsun> syntaxx: sorry, /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:41] <noiesmo> stuart, you can paste your entire sources.list here and I can check it to if you like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:42] <stuart> noisemo, that just "returned" a $ prompt
[07:42] <noiesmo> stuart, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ put your sourse.list here plase
[07:42] <stuart> noisemo, thanks give me a minute
[07:42] <noiesmo> stuart, np
[07:42] <syntaxx> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/255671
[07:44] <FunnyLookinHat> fairly slow night  : )
[07:44] <crimsun> syntaxx: um, your sources.list is for edgy, not dapper, and it doesn't have universe enabled at all.
[07:45] <stuart> noisemo, ok done
[07:45] <syntaxx> crimsun: what will i add to the line?
[07:45] <noiesmo> stuart, need url for your paste
[07:45] <crimsun> syntaxx: deb http://ph.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe
[07:45] <syntaxx> ok thanks
[07:45] <stuart> noisemo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33421/
[07:46] <balder> guys  whats mean that ....   sudo: gedit/etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[07:46] <noiesmo> k one sec stuart
[07:46] <stuart> noisemo, k
[07:46] <dabaR> balder: means you forgot a space in between gedit and /
[07:46] <kaiki> balder: you forgot a space between gedit and / it looks like
[07:46] <stelt> noiesmo: ubuntu doesn't bring up a GUI, some problem with X. What distro does also promise plug&pray, but uses different techniques for it ? I love the command-line, that's one of the reasons i want to install Linux, but i can't live without a GUI just yet
[07:47] <balder> I have 2 days whit Linux is hard :P
[07:48] <grigora> anyone knows how to map netis keys to use arrow keys? thanks
[07:50] <noiesmo> stuart, ok here fixed it up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33422/
[07:50] <balder> also   ....  found erros to proces        /var/cache/apt/archives/slocate_2.7-4_i386.deb
[07:50] <balder> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[07:50] <FunnyLookinHat> stelt, you could try a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in console, that should fix X coming up to start
[07:51] <noiesmo> stelt, ubuntu use gnome for gui if live cd runs then it should bring up gui otherwise check /var/log/Xorg.).log
[07:51] <stuart> noisemo, thanks, but what was wrong?
[07:51] <abyssinia> who install nessus in linux? i have a problem
[07:51] <noiesmo> stuart, line 16 17
[07:51] <noiesmo> stuart, line 29 on doesnt need univverse etc
[07:52] <noiesmo> stuart, you didnt put multiverse and wrong places :)
[07:52] <cherubiel> balder: remove the  :
[07:52] <cherubiel> balder: oops, give a space after gedit
[07:52] <cherubiel> my bad.
[07:52] <noiesmo> stuart, once you adjust you'll need to sudo apt-get update again
[07:53] <balder> ok let me try
[07:53] <stelt> FunnyLookinHat, isn't resetting to default? As this is the liveCD failing on bringing up a GUI, that already is the default
[07:53] <stuart> noisemo, http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ -- wasn't that already there?
[07:53] <stelt> isn't --> isn't that
[07:53] <noiesmo> stuart, i just adjusted yours to have things in te right place yu didn't have universe and multiverse on the right lines
[07:53] <stuart> noisemo, i didn't manually type in the url's - just checked whether i wanted non-supported stuff via synaptic GUI
[07:54] <stuart> noisemo, ok, well thank you for helping me out :)
[07:55] <stuart> noisemo, i'm just annoyed that the gui didnt get it right in the first place -- thanks again
[07:57] <rosen37> Please I installed a xubuntu but the .xsession file is not launched when I log in?Someone know how to debug?
[07:57] <gimmulf> How do i get a new nameserver?
[07:57] <gimmulf> or get rid of the caching
[07:57] <gimmulf>  Use a local caching nameserver controlled by NetworkManager
[07:57] <redDEADresolve> smp support built into its generic kernel?
[07:57] <redDEADresolve> does edgy have smp support built into its generic kernel?
[07:58] <zillabox> how can i increase the resolution of the VGA in ubuntu?
[07:58] <zillabox> how can i increase the resolution of the VGA in ubuntu?
[07:58] <monokrome> xorg.conf
[07:59] <vision> how can i hear sound in ubuntu
[07:59] <rosen37> zillabox: modify you /etx/X11/xorg.conf add the resolution you want
[07:59] <redDEADresolve> does edgy have smp support built into its generic kernel?
[07:59] <zillabox> thanks dude
[07:59] <noiesmo> zillabox, with my monitor I need to add HorizSync value and VertRefresh Value to xorg.conf to improve res and refresh rate
[08:00] <gimmulf> How do i get rid of the local caching of nameservers?
[08:00] <PurpleMonkey> why do the DNS number key in will reset everything the system go to sleep effecting the ablebility to go online?
[08:00] <gimmulf> want it updated
[08:00] <zillabox> that's cool, is that also in xorg.conf?
[08:01] <noiesmo> zillabox, you put it there under Section Monitor
[08:01] <zillabox> because i want is a 1280x1024
[08:01] <noiesmo> zillabox, lmine is HorizSync 30-72 VertRefresh 50-120 for benq v772 but you need to check your monitor specs
[08:01] <zillabox> im using a 17 inch monitor
[08:01] <zillabox> cool
[08:01] <kishan> question is there a way to acess dual monitor in ubuntu
[08:01] <zillabox> thanks dude
[08:02] <noiesmo> zillabox, also set Modes in Screen section to 1280x1024
[08:03] <rosen37> and how to add permanent route in ubuntu?
[08:03] <redDEADresolve> does edgy have smp support built into its generic kernel?
[08:03] <kishan> is there a applicatiion to access dual monitor in ubuntu edgy
[08:04] <redDEADresolve> i thought edgy support dula monitors with the proper video card driver out of the box
[08:05] <redDEADresolve> does edgy have smp support built into its generic kernel?
[08:05] <pr1ll> yes
[08:05] <rickyfingers> redDEADresolve: i had to twek xorg.conf to get dual monitors working
[08:05] <kishan> redDEADresolve: does is it support dual monitor
[08:06] <redDEADresolve> ricky says you have to config it
[08:06] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:06] <redDEADresolve> have you tried searching the ubuntuforums.org
[08:06] <kishan> rickyfingers: is there a application for dual monitor configuration
[08:06] <pr1ll> hola
[08:07] <blaa_away> http://pastebin.com/831133 helpme
[08:08] <RoC_MM> kishan, I remember seeing stuff around for it....part of the distro already, or that may have been kubuntu-desktop...can't say anything more than that personally
[08:10] <kishan> thank you RoC_MM
[08:10] <RoC_MM> did you example the config sections of your distro?
[08:10] <RoC_MM> the control panel like applets
[08:10] <kishan> noooo
[08:10] <RoC_MM> are you running tht distro?
[08:11] <kishan> yes
[08:11] <kishan> no no
[08:11] <RoC_MM> but you didn't look in like that third menu on the top of the screen?
[08:11] <kishan> i am running ubuntu edgy
[08:11] <kishan> i am not a linux guy new to this but wanted to learn
[08:12] <kishan> so u mean i need to install kubuntu
[08:12] <gotit> dabar: its taking too much time to boot from the cd
[08:13] <RoC_MM> kishan, no, but you can test out Kubuntu (Ubuntu with the KDE desktop) because both the ubuntu and the kubuntu CD"s are livecds...so you should be able to poke around and you won't have to HD-install just to see.
[08:13] <kishan> ooh ok got it RoC_MM i will  try it out
[08:13] <noodles12> i'm new to kismet, But if when i press C shoudn't i see a list of clients of the ap that i highlighted? I am currently on mine and i don't see mine mac address pop up?
[08:13] <RoC_MM> Additionally, installing the package "kubuntu-desktop" will install everything that makes the Kubuntu KDE desktop up as far as I know, and then you can select "KDE" from your Session Type on the login screen, or something like that.
[08:13] <gotit> dabaR: there were 4-5 options i selected the "install or start .." and now 20 mins are already passed
[08:14] <kishan> but i hear tthat everything need to be tweek to use dual monitor but i donnot want to do it as it might make the xorg unstable
[08:14] <PurpleMonkey> i am new to Linus and just installUbuntu edgy from the livecds, Funny things is everytime the computer go to sleep, the DNS i key in will reset, cause me unable to go into the internet. Anyone can help me in this issue??
[08:15] <kishan> u need to confirgure it PurpleMonkey
[08:15] <RoC_MM> kishan, I'm not sure where you heard that from or if it's true, but I can't say anything further because I just don't know or use dual-head.
[08:16] <gotit> dabaR is not present i think
[08:16] <PurpleMonkey> kishan: i configurate it via the network setting by key in the DNS number..but..it still happen. Any other setting i must do?
[08:17] <gotit> oh its started ubuntu file browser is here i dont know what to do now its still loading , i'll be intouch
[08:17] <gotit> : -)
[08:17] <kishan> PurpleMonkey: are u using wireless dsl/cable internet
[08:18] <PurpleMonkey> kishan: wire cable lick thought a routher cum modemn
[08:18] <spunconfuse> hello
[08:19] <kishan> PurpleMonkey: use sudo PPOECONF to configure ur connection
[08:19] <ayeizajedi> good morning everyone
[08:20] <PurpleMonkey> kishan: thanks i will try...
[08:20] <gotit> can any one plz help me installing ubuntu , i bought the cd just now
[08:20] <kishan> cool gotit itself expantory first check wheather it is compatable with your hard ware booting it as live cd
[08:21] <B_166-ER-X> !amsn
[08:21] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[08:21] <spunconfuse> I though ubuntu cd's were free
[08:21] <gotit> yes its booting  ubuntu file browser is infront of me and the cd light is on for 20 min
[08:22] <cypher1> spunconfuse: yes it is free
[08:22] <zcat[1] > spunconfuse: dapper is still free from shipit, they're charging for edgy
[08:22] <kishan> hmm that should not be happening gotit
[08:22] <kishan> restart the system
[08:22] <kishan> sorry gotit
[08:22] <kishan> did u say u are able to boot
[08:22] <gotit> no its slow i think its P1 with 128 ram
[08:23] <gotit> i can browse throug
[08:23] <gotit> its not hung
[08:23] <kishan> oooh that is the problem u need to dowload a package called alternative cd to install the ubuntu
[08:23] <PurpleMonkey> if we reinstall the linux with other distro...will it over write/delete the existing Ubuntu partition??
[08:24] <kishan> PurpleMokey generally it depends on destro if u can manually arrage partion then u can install without erasing the ubuntu
[08:24] <gotit> really i am on dialup , but the cd says it can be  installed
[08:24] <zcat[1] > gotit: You probably want xubuntu .. gnome will be quite intolerable in 128M ram
[08:24] <luke_> Hey folks...  Software RAID question.  Trying to setup 6.10 with RAID1 on 2 SATA 160 drives using this how too:  http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html
[08:25] <kishan> it can be gotit but 128 is not recomended only 256 is recommede to install
[08:25] <luke_> however, I can't seem to boot...  it says "raid not clean" and then somethning like /dev/hd1 not found
[08:25] <kishan> i suggest gotit to install xbuntu which will work well on it
[08:25] <ubuntu> !raid | luke_
[08:25] <ubotu> luke_: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[08:25] <luke_> :ubotu thanks
[08:26] <gotit> i just want to try on it and then install on the real sys
[08:26] <PurpleMonkey> kishan: thanks. mmmm i wonder...haha still got alot to learn...
[08:26] <kishan> PurpleMonkey i am learing tooo
[08:27] <kishan> well gotit as i said u cannot install on 128 mb with the live cd u need alternative cd to install it but still give a try
[08:28] <kishan> just click install on the icon on the desktop and follow the instructions
[08:28] <gotit> ok
[08:28] <kishan> but evern the live cd hungs when u try to install on 128 mb thats why i suggest u to try XBUNTU which works well on these old systems
[08:29] <zcat[1] > gotit: ubuntu live cd will seriously suck on 128M ram. A hdd install will be faster, but still pretty sluggish. You really need more ram.
[08:29] <ubuntu> kishan: Will xubuntu install from the LiveCD with 128 meg RAM ?
[08:30] <zcat[1] > Yep, xubuntu will be sweet..
[08:30] <kishan> use alternative cd to install that cool way of installing
[08:30] <gotit> it realy does suck : -)\
[08:30] <luke_> :ubotu hey man that link you sent me seems to be for hardware controllers
[08:30] <zcat[1] > not sure if you can get xubuntu through shipit.. fairly sure you can't..
[08:31] <gotit> right u r
[08:31] <ubuntu> kishan: luke_ Ubotu is a bot :)
[08:31] <kishan> xubuntu there is no ship it only dowload it
[08:31] <kishan> ubuntu i have no idea
[08:31] <luke_> oh... rofl.   <-  irc newb
[08:31] <pepeamid> O.o
[08:31] <gotit> how much meg it is ..
[08:31] <zcat[1] > !botsnack | luke_
[08:31] <ubotu> luke_: Yum!
[08:31] <ubuntu> kishan: They don't send alternate CD's for anything but the server install anyways.
[08:32] <kishan> ubuntu: ur right u need to dowload those
[08:32] <feroxide> anyone know why "enable mouse keys" stops functioning after a
[08:32] <feroxide>            period of time(10-15min) and needs to be turned off/on to start
[08:32] <luke_> is everything with a yellow tag a bot?
[08:33] <lastnode> kishan, are you sri lankan by any chance? :-)
[08:33] <gotit> from where i can download it
[08:33] <lastnode> luke_, what yellow tag?
[08:33] <spunconfuse> I get this error "Unable to mount the floppy drive. The floppy is probably in a format that cannot be mounted." when I plug in my memory card reader and try acessing it.  Anyone know what I can do to fix this?
[08:33] <duck_> I just came by here to see if anyone here would recommend a wirless access-point / router?
[08:33] <luke_> lastnode:  you have one too, so I guess not :)
[08:33] <duck_> I want one that connects to a usb printer and hopefully uses jetdirect interface
[08:33] <zcat[1] > gotit: from internet cafe, otherwise it will take about three days at best on dialup :)\
[08:33] <ubuntu> luke_: On this channel only ubotu and ubugtu are bots.
[08:33] <kishan> lastnode: ur near i am indian
[08:33] <kishan> why u ask
[08:33] <lastnode> duck_, edimax makes good stuff
[08:34] <lastnode> kishan, im sri lankan, that's why :-) nvm
[08:34] <duck_> lastnode: thanks, I'll check newegg
[08:34] <ubuntu> duck_: One of the linux based Linksys ones.
[08:34] <duck_> ubuntu: there are linux based linksys routers? wow!
[08:34] <zcat[1] > gotit: just tell us where you are, someone nearby will probably offer to burn and mail a copy...
[08:34] <kishan> question to all do we need a fire wall in linux
[08:35] <harm_kabisa> hi all, i have a serious problem with my perl installation, and I could really use some help...
[08:35] <rickyfingers> duck_: I'm using one now.  There are firmware versions out there that turn the wrt54g into a little linux box
[08:35] <lastnode> kishan, depends. firestarter is a good GUI firewall
[08:35] <lastnode> harm_kabisa, unless you ask, we cant help
[08:35] <harm_kabisa> i'm running edgy server
[08:35] <rickyfingers> duck_: and you can even do things like boost signal strength to get more range
[08:36] <harm_kabisa> I'm trying to install ispconfig
[08:36] <ubuntu> rickyfingers: Be VERRY carefull with that though, setting the signal strength to high could literally melt it.
[08:36] <kishan> Lastnode: how to clean files i mean junk files in ubuntu
[08:36] <luke_> I think I might have figured it out.  Perhaps I have to reconfigure grub to say /dev/md0 instead of /dev/hda1?
[08:36] <harm_kabisa> And I get this when i run: perl -MCPAN -e shell:
[08:36] <harm_kabisa> Scalar found where operator expected at /usr/share/perl/5.8/ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm line 953, near "return "$v"
[08:36] <harm_kabisa> lastnode, I'm sorry, I tried to explain above
[08:36] <lastnode> harm_kabisa, seems like a bad pm. try #perl
[08:36] <zcat[1] > ubuntu doesn't really need a firewall, but firestarter is really nice for setting up forwarding, NAT, DHCP and watching network traffic.
[08:37] <rickyfingers> ubuntu: I totally agree.  I worry if all the 2.4 GHz in my room is going to do something to me.
[08:37] <harm_kabisa> ok, will do
[08:37] <duck_> rickyfingers: iloveit.... :) :) Im so excited
[08:37] <duck_> rickyfingers: hopefully it doesn't look big and ugly
[08:38] <duck_> rickyfingers: not that I care too much
[08:38] <Lattyware> I have a hardware firewall anyway, personally. I still use firestarter for what zcat[1]  said.
[08:38] <rickyfingers> duck_: the wrt54g is about the size of a cigar box, and it has two antennas on either side on the back
[08:38] <ubuntu> duck_: images.google.com :)
[08:39] <luke_> anybody around that's set up a software raid before?  I'm following the how-to's to the t and they don't work.  I have a really simple setup so it shouldn't be difficult
[08:39] <gotit> what should i do guys should i add some ram to it cause i cant wait to download alternate cd
[08:39] <kishan> if u have ram gotit add it please
[08:39] <gotit> how much you suggest i put more
[08:39] <duck_> rickyfingers: i see it on newegg. did you get the blue/black or silver?
[08:39] <gotit> yeah sure i can pull some ram lol
[08:39] <kishan> 512 is really good gotit
[08:40] <PurpleMonkey> goit: there is never be enough in term of RAM
[08:40] <gotit> ok
[08:40] <ubuntu> gotit: You may be able to put a swap file on a pen drive or something so you don't run out of memory
[08:40] <cntb> \o
[08:40] <zcat[1] > 256M would be the minimum .. 512 or more is better
[08:41] <gotit> cause it really is slow nothing is going on and its not even hung :)
[08:41] <gotit> leme try adding some ram
[08:41] <ubuntu> gotit: I believe the Ubuntu LiveCD automatically detects any swap partitions so all you would have to do would be to partition a pen drive as swap in gparted.
[08:41] <zcat[1] > I only have about 400 in this machine.. not great, but tolerable.
[08:41] <cntb> tuxracer game is rather slow on default install. can the "nice" (priority setting) command help improve somewhat the not so satisfying experience?
[08:41] <gotit> wat is that pen drive  in gparted
[08:41] <gotit> i dont understand
[08:41] <zcat[1] > cntb: 3d drivers will help, if you don't already have them
[08:41] <Lattyware> Anyone want to see something funny? I used IE5.0, IE5.5, and IE6.0 to test my site in. http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ietimewarpei4.png
[08:42] <ubuntu> cntb: Do you have 3D drivers installed?
[08:42] <Lattyware> Guess what, Far Left is actually 5.0, Middle 5.5, Right 60.
[08:42] <balder> guys  help  how I can copy or move one folder from Terminal
[08:42] <cntb> ubuntu maybe not how do I tell
[08:42] <Lattyware> IE steadily renders my site (which is perfect CSS/XHTML) steadily worse over each version of IE.
[08:42] <balder> guys  help  how I can copy or move one folder from Terminal??
[08:42] <zcat[1] > balder: cp or mv
[08:42] <Lattyware> gotta love M$
[08:42] <balder> ok let me try
[08:42] <peanutb> im having ndiswrapper troubles, with my Acer IPN 220, any ideas?
[08:42] <luke_> nobody here has done a software raid before?  :'(
[08:43] <zcat[1] > Lattyware: change the content type to application/xml .. it won't render at all :)
[08:43] <ubuntu> cntb: What kind of card do you have?
[08:43] <cntb> it is an nvidia
[08:43] <peanutb> luke_, i've used lvm groups
[08:43] <zcat[1] > or text/xml+html, MSIE makes a total mess of it...
[08:43] <cntb> on PIII
[08:43] <ubuntu> !nvidia | cntb
[08:43] <ubotu> cntb: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:43] <cntb> ok ty ubuntu
[08:43] <ubuntu> cntb: That will make everything run MUCH faster.
[08:44] <luke_> peanutb:  not sure what an lvm group is.  I'm trying to do this:  http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html#1
[08:44] <Lattyware> zcat[1] : lol, yeah. I can't wait until IE7 is in main use. As much as I hate IE, at least IE7 can render a hell of alot better than IE6
[08:44] <kishan> ubuntu do u have driver for intel cards too
[08:44] <luke_> peanutb:  it installs fine and such, but hangs on booting
[08:44] <Lattyware> That isn't really saying much though.
[08:44] <peanutb> luke_, its during os install.
[08:44] <cntb> how do I tell I am on default driver ubuntu ? i.e. not accelerated?
[08:44] <duck_> ubuntu: wrt54gl does not have a usb-printer port...
[08:45] <cntb> many q.s will wait patiently
[08:45] <gotit> aah the sys doesnt support more than two slots  i can add just 128 more
[08:45] <ubuntu> cntb: If you didn't install them you don't have them, you can use: glx | grep driver To check though.
[08:45] <kishan> cool all the best gotit
[08:45] <luke_> peanutb:  that thing where you have to set the md0-2?
[08:45] <cntb> perfect ty ubuntu
[08:46] <catalytic> whats the best compositing package on ubuntu?
[08:46] <kishan> ubuntu : do we need to install driver for intel video card
[08:46] <gotit> its 256 now guys :)
[08:46] <catalytic> i just read about cinelerra
[08:46] <catalytic> is there better?
[08:46] <peanutb> luke_, sorry im not following.
[08:47] <gotit> what should i select start or install i guess
[08:47] <kishan> start gotit
[08:47] <gotit> yeah its better
[08:47] <luke_> peanutb:  scan this link http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html#1
[08:47] <luke_> peanutb:  that's what I'm up too.  Something isn't working though.
[08:48] <ubuntu> kishan: No, intel cards just work because intel releases their drivers open source.
[08:48] <Pavi> whats gotit
[08:48] <cntb>  clicking links here on xchat brings konqueror. I would like firefox to show links by default instead.HOw
[08:48] <gotit> lol
[08:48] <ubuntu> kishan: They supported AIGLX months before nvidia for the same reason
[08:48] <Pavi> ok its persons name
[08:48] <nanomike> Hi, how do i see what user shutdown the computer for example. I know it's must be in a log somewhere but i can't find it
[08:48] <gotit> thats me pavi
[08:48] <gotit> yeah
[08:48] <kishan> cool ubuntu thanks
[08:48] <Pavi> ok dude
[08:49] <Pavi> i thought i some kind of weird software
[08:49] <gotit> lol
[08:49] <kishan> ubuntu are u part of ubuntu team
[08:49] <alucardromero> :)
[08:49] <peanutb> luke_, sorry, im not experienced in raid, and cant reallyhelp.
[08:49] <ubuntu> kishan: No.
[08:49] <luke_> nm, I found another howtoo... hopefully it works better
[08:49] <luke_> later
[08:50] <Pavi> ok
[08:50] <kishan> any body from ubuntu team here
[08:50] <iLLf8d> kishan, he's part of the ubuntu racing team (crew chief)
[08:50] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> how do i delete files with strange file names?
[08:51] <kishan> cool iLLf8D
[08:51] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> e.g. files that had chinese characters in it
[08:51] <gotit> it working fine enough for the test with 256 ram
[08:51] <kishan> cool gotit
[08:51] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> >.<... the chinese characters just display as ?????
[08:51] <kishan> did u install
[08:51] <ubuntu> Hinata_sama|iBoo: Copy and paste the name ?
[08:51] <kishan> gotit: did u install
[08:51] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> doesn't work >.<
[08:51] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> i tried it
[08:51] <gotit> 364000 files scaned on this sys i dont know how much left :()
[08:52] <kishan> cool
[08:52] <Pavi> hey gotit what to install
[08:52] <nanomike> What log to see who shutdown the computer at some point?
[08:52] <ubuntu> Hinata_sama|iBoo: Install chinese language support ?
[08:52] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> how would i do that with apt-get
[08:52] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ?
[08:52] <gotit> yeah iam installing it i double clicked the install icon and install window is there i selected eng and lets see wats next
[08:54] <gotit> starting up the partitioner scanning disks
[08:54] <Shadow_mil> how do I install a rpm package?
[08:55] <ubuntu> !alean | Shadow_mil
[08:55] <Pavi> rpm -Uvh package.rpm
[08:55] <kishan> use alien applicatin shadow
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> you could format it with alienx
[08:55] <gotit> i think i should select manually edit partition table , there are three unformated partions on my drive
[08:55] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> (to a .deb package)
[08:55] <ubuntu> !alien | Shadow_mil
[08:55] <ubotu> Shadow_mil: rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[08:55] <gotit> installing ubuntu pavi :-)
[08:55] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> lol
[08:55] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> XD
[08:55] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> i'll get the howto for ya
[08:55] <Pavi> i have ubuntu
[08:55] <Pavi> dapper drake
[08:56] <nanomike> Anyone know what log i can check to see who shutdown the computer at some point?
[08:56] <gotit> no imean i am u asked me a while ago :-)
[08:56] <enyc> Hrrm
[08:56] <Pavi> ok so u installing ubuntu
[08:56] <peanutb> anyone knowhow to successfully get ndiswrapper working?
[08:57] <enyc> ?where/how do I assign bug to in order to get it looked-at/fixed/considered?  --  https://launchpad.net/bugs/70098
[08:57] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> http://www.howtoforge.com/converting_rpm_to_deb_with_alien
[08:57] <gotit> what should i do guys  i have windows on c and d,e,f are unformated
[08:57] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> sorry it's called Alien
[08:57] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> "Converting .rpm Packages To Debian/Ubuntu .deb Format With Alien"
[08:57] <dm_> anyone able to tell me what im missing configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 libxml-2.0) were not met.
[08:57] <Pavi> so whats the problem gotit
[08:57] <Janchi> gotit: would you like to keep the Windows
[08:57] <Pavi> start ubuntu desktop cd
[08:57] <ubuntu> nanomike: It would have to be a gnome / kde log because AFIK the only user that can restart is root
[08:57] <gotit> yeah
[08:57] <Shadow_mil> When I use alien it creates a folder for that package
[08:58] <Pavi> if u want to keep windows edit partition manually
[08:58] <Janchi> gotit: no problem, you can install Ubuntu next to Windows
[08:58] <ubuntu> Shadow_mil: What are you trying to install?
[08:58] <Shadow_mil> VMserver
[08:58] <gen> my usb mouse & keybord often become disfunctional, I have to re-plug them to make them work, does anybody know the reason?
[08:58] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> Shadow_mil, why don't you try to compile the source?
[08:58] <Shadow_mil> Hinata_sama|iBoo: its not OSS
[08:58] <Shadow_mil> I know...
[08:58] <balder> one more question   how I can change properties of the  some folder  example  I try to paste one folder in a  MMC card but the sistem tould me you don`t have permit to write or soemthing like that
[08:58] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ah
[08:58] <dm_> isnt there a program out that that will find what you need for a make or a ./configure and install it for you?
[08:58] <Janchi> Shadow_mil: installing from source is much easier
[08:59] <Shadow_mil> VMware Server
[08:59] <Pavi> gotit u know what to do
[08:59] <Janchi> Shadow_mil: installing from source is easier
[08:59] <Shadow_mil> Janchi: ITS NOT FUCKING OSS
[08:59] <gotit> i guess i can there are four options here resize ide master partition 2,erase entire disk(sure not to select this one) 3 use the largest continuous free space 4 manually edit partition
[08:59] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> dm_, or... you could type ./configure
[08:59] <ubuntu> dm_: sudo apt-get build-dep packagename
[08:59] <nanomike> ubuntu, Yes. But i have users under /etc/sudoers that are allowed to restart the server. so thay used sudo shutdown -r or something. But where do i check when and who?
[08:59] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> or ./con(press tab here)
[08:59] <Pavi> manual dude
[08:59] <Janchi> Shadow_mil: I use Vmserver under Ubuntu, the source installer is way easier, I assure you
[08:59] <Pavi> go for manual partition
[09:00] <Pavi> manually edit partition
[09:00] <enyc> gotit: I think you could BACKUP important data, delete the 'd' 'e' 'f' partitions entirely ttos tart with, show win32 is still working, and then install ubuntu edgy and it should use the free space unless you tell it to erase entire disk
[09:00] <dm_> ubuntu its from a CVS or w/e
[09:00] <Shadow_mil> Janchi: ok you point me to VMware server's source and Ill install it
[09:00] <gotit> oh i missed that
[09:00] <balder> one more question   how I can change properties of the  some folder  example  I try to paste one folder in a  MMC card but the system tould me you don`t have permit to write or soemthing like that
[09:00] <dm_> Hinata_sama|iBoo i did that but its telling me i am missing stuff which i cant find in my repos
[09:00] <Pavi> install ubuntu in last partition ( recommended )
[09:00] <Janchi> Shadow_mil: it is on the vmware server download page. Just install the tar.gz package. One sec, I'll look up the complete name
[09:00] <Pavi> so u have to loose data on last drive
[09:01] <dm_> Hinata_sama|iBoo Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 libxml-2.0) were not met.
[09:01] <Pavi> or save that data in other partition using windows
[09:01] <AlucardRomero> Is there a tutorial or how-to on how to enable wireless Broadcom cards under Ubuntu?
[09:01] <gotit> those drive are unpartitioned guys
[09:01] <Pavi> so no data
[09:01] <Pavi> ok
[09:01] <Shadow_mil> http://download3.vmware.com/software/vmserver/VMware-server-1.0.1-29996.tar.gz   ?
[09:02] <Janchi> Shadow_mil: that's it
[09:02] <ubuntu> !wireless | AlucardRomero
[09:02] <dm_> ANYONE help me with this ? Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 libxml-2.0) were not met.
[09:02] <dm_>  maybe a repo i need?
[09:02] <ubotu> AlucardRomero: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:02] <Pavi> have u got windows installed on any partition
[09:02] <Janchi> I have a step by step tutoral for you
[09:02] <AlucardRomero> Thanks.
[09:02] <Shadow_mil> Janchi: ok thats not the source.
[09:02] <balder> one more question   how I can change properties of the  some folder  example  I try to paste one folder in a  MMC card but the system tould me you don`t have permit to write or soemthing like that
[09:02] <Janchi> Shadow_mil: what's your email
[09:02] <Shadow_mil><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:02] <Shadow_mil> please don't send me a email :(
[09:03] <feroxide> anyone know how to keep "enable mouse keys" on all the time? they keypad just stops working as a mouse after a while(10min or so)
[09:04] <Janchi> Shadow_mil: you don't want the step by step? I wrote it for a complete Ubuntu n00b moving away from Linux.
[09:04] <Shadow_mil> Janchi: I am fine, thanks for your help
[09:05] <balder> haw i can change the properties for some folder??
[09:05] <Shadow_mil> Janchi: submit it to the ubuntu wiki or unbuntuguides
[09:05] <gen>  my usb mouse & keybord often become disfunctional, I have to re-plug them to make them work, does anybody know the reason?
[09:05] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> what the heck!!! to install chinese language support
[09:05] <Janchi> Shadow_mil: the only issue with installing vmware server are three lacking dependencies in a default install of Ubuntu: GCC, make and the headers
[09:05] <gotit> hey guys its askin me to prepare partitions how should i
[09:05] <Janchi> Shadow_mil: Good suggestion, will do that
[09:06] <cntb> \o VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11DDR [GeForce2 MX       100 DDR/200 DDR]  (rev b2) is legacy or not?
[09:06] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> testing
[09:06] <particleman> ok...this may not be the right place for this question, so feel free to redirect me elsewhere
[09:06] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> o.o... packet loss i guess
[09:06] <particleman> but I installed the most recent upgrades via synaptic
[09:06] <cntb>  said NVIDIA is where on following list ? http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8762/README/appendix-a.html
[09:06] <Janchi> Shadow_mil: once these dependencies are met, it is a matter of running sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[09:06] <particleman> to Ubuntu Dapper and Firefox 1.5.x
[09:07] <ubuntu> Hinata_sama|iBoo: Are there other files in the directory?
[09:07] <particleman> and next thing you know fark.com doesn't load properly
[09:07] <particleman> not adblock's problem
[09:07] <Shadow_mil> Janchi: k thanks
[09:07] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> sudo apt-get install language-support-zh = 116-117 meg
[09:07] <gotit> preparing for mount points what should i select now
[09:07] <particleman> any ideas?
[09:07] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> yea
[09:07] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> i could move them out and do a rm .* i guess
[09:07] <particleman> I've tried digging through about:config some with no luck as well
[09:07] <Pavi> root " / "
[09:07] <Pavi> this one first
[09:07] <Pavi> atleast 8 gb
[09:07] <gotit> default is /media/hda1
[09:08] <Shadow_mil> gotit: thanks for windows
[09:08] <gotit> its 20 gb
[09:08] <gen> WHO
[09:08] <Pavi> gotit come on pm
[09:08] <Pavi> i have send you private msg
[09:08] <Shadow_mil> gotit: thats*
[09:08] <gotit> didnt recieve one
[09:08] <ubuntu> Hinata_sama|iBoo: I figured out a way to delete it.
[09:08] <balder> how i can change the properties for some folder??
[09:08] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> woo! cool
[09:09] <dm_> Can anyone help me build something... trying to get this damn CVS running and i have no Fing idea what its asking me to do
[09:09] <GoAuLd> ubuntu is crap
[09:09] <GoAuLd> dont use it
[09:09] <Pavi> looked for a tabbed window near # ubuntu
[09:09] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> GoAuLd, then why are you here?
[09:09] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> go back to #gentoo
[09:09] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> :P
[09:09] <hydro> hello all
[09:09] <GoAuLd> xD
[09:09] <GoAuLd> lol
[09:09] <ubuntu> Hinata_sama|iBoo: rm -i ?????? ( with the same number of question marks as there are characters in the name , it is a regex )
[09:09] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> you can as elite as you want to be there
[09:10] <gotit> private msg is block for me guys
[09:11] <cntb> hydro, hello is not enough
[09:11] <Pavi> ok
[09:11] <cntb> !ask
[09:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:11] <hydro> I have downloaded the Edgy (6.10) Live CD ISO and burned it to a few CD-Rs ... I want to give them to some of my friends who have been dealing with the pain of Windows. However, I am in China and they all prefer to use Chinese characters for the language and they speak various dialects of Mandarin. When I tried Edgy on my laptop, the re was no language choice for Mandarin. Any ideas (thanks cntb)
[09:11] <ubuntu> gotit: You need to register your nick
[09:11] <gotit> l8r
[09:11] <gotit> are u a bot ubuntu
[09:11] <dm_> SOMEONE PLS HELP http://pastebin.ca/255709 , i dont know what to do !!
[09:11] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ubuntu, it doesn't recognize it :(
[09:12] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[09:12] <hydro> cntb any thoughts and suggestions are appreciated with regard to Chinese language on the Ubuntu Edgy Live CD
[09:12] <ubuntu> hydro: There is a script somebody made for making custom Ubuntu liveCDs with added language support, google around for it.
[09:12] <Pavi> gotit delete last partition
[09:12] <gotit> so should i select some thing else or i the other partition
[09:12] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> the thing is... it's "sorta" recognizing it e.g. if i try to tab after ????????
[09:12] <KnowledgEngi> kernel panic: not syncin, unable to mount root on fs .....
[09:12] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/NS8Tpk66.html
[09:13] <KnowledgEngi> this is the procedure that i used !
[09:13] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> but doesn't recognise the rest of the file name
[09:13] <hydro> ubuntu: thanks and ugh at the same time (I spent hours downloading the LiveCD as is)
[09:13] <gotit> there is no delete option pavi
[09:14] <Pavi> go to previous partition table
[09:14] <gimmulf> How do i update my nameserver?
[09:14] <Pavi> go to partition table
[09:14] <ubuntu> Hinata_sama|iBoo: Don't press tab, put the same number of question marks as there are characters, just be carefull as it will also delete any other files in the directory that have the same number of characters, that is why you should use the -i switch
[09:14] <soulfire41> Hello..im having a big problem with anjuta.......the configure and makefiles it generates have errors..............
[09:14] <Pavi> and then delete last partition make it free space
[09:14] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ubuntu i did
[09:15] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> if fact i copy'd and pasted the ???
[09:15] <gen> hey guys, my usb mouse & keybord often become disfunctional, I have to re-plug them to make them work, does anybody know the reason?
[09:15] <dm_> What are gtk devel libs/headers
[09:15] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> rm -i *no. of ????* here
[09:15] <crimsun> libgtk2.0-dev, dm_
[09:15] <mike-ekim> I downloaded kubuntu-desktop, and when it was loading up, it gave me he kubuntu login
[09:15] <balder> how i can change the properties for some folder??
[09:15] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> it's just that bash, get confused with it...
[09:15] <soulfire41> How do i fix Anjuta generating project files which have errors?
[09:15] <mike-ekim> but after i logged in, it said some error about x or something, adn went back to my old gnome sesin
[09:15] <mike-ekim> how can I fix this??
[09:15] <mike-ekim> I want kde :p
[09:15] <mike-ekim> :[*
[09:16] <gimmulf> how do i update my nameserver?
[09:16] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> *sigh* i guess i'll have to download the language-support-zh
[09:16] <dm_> crimsun thanks, your the first person who has responded
[09:16] <ubuntu> Hinata_sama|iBoo: Not copying and pasting, you need to type regular question marks
[09:16] <mike-ekim> anyone
[09:16] <frogzoo> will suspend on dapper ever work for my sony vaio lappie?
[09:16] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> -_-... which apt-get wants to get support for ALL programs on my system (download language packages for all programs)
[09:16] <frogzoo> it's so annoying, suspend was perfect on breezy
[09:17] <anto> Can somone help me ?, when i isntall ubuntu 6.0.6 daper drake on my computer it gives me a error called `loading /casper/vmlinuz....isolinux: Disk error 80, AX = 4200, drive 9f
[09:17] <ubuntu> anto: Try the CD test
[09:17] <frogzoo> anto: that's a kind of unorthodox path to vmlinuz
[09:17] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> anto are you using a sata setup?
[09:18] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> or that
[09:18] <soulfire41> Hello
[09:18] <dm_> crimsun can you help me ?
[09:18] <ubuntu> frogzoo: hm isn't casper the squashfs file system IE it can't possibly be accesed at boot?
[09:18] <ktrauberman> where do you set environment variables that need to be set on startup?
[09:19] <dm_> crimsun http://pastebin.ca/255715
[09:19] <frogzoo> ubuntu: seems you know better than me, I've no idea
[09:19] <anto> ubuntu i don't know :S
[09:19] <anto> it dosen't work
[09:19] <dm_> ubuntu can you make sense of this http://pastebin.ca/255715? i cant :P lol
[09:19] <anto> frogzoo i don't know and hinata_sama no
[09:19] <frogzoo> ktrauberman: /etc/environment
[09:19] <ktrauberman> thx
[09:20] <frogzoo> ktrauberman: per user in ~/.gnomerc
[09:20] <gimmulf> Not anyone who know how to restart the nameserver or empty its caching?
[09:20] <frogzoo> anto: this is while installing, or booting after the install completed?
[09:20] <ubuntu> anto: dm_ I will be back when I have X installed , I am running irssi right now :) my nick is normally Jordan_U
[09:20] <soulfire41> i guess no one knows
[09:21] <crimsun> dm_: libxtst-dev
[09:21] <anto> frogzoo, when i insert live cd and try to run it
[09:21] <palenke2k> Hola
[09:22] <palenke2k> sorry, exist one channel of ubuntu in spanih?? i live in argentina, please
[09:22] <frogzoo> !es
[09:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:22] <palenke2k> all right sorry, goodluck
[09:23] <Jordan_U_> du_ what was that pastebin link again?
[09:23] <frogzoo> anto: first thing I'd do, veryify the cd
[09:23] <dm_> crimsun that seemed to work thanks !!!
[09:23] <cwillu> !hostname
[09:23] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[09:24] <[Nige] > anyone able to get the ati drivers working for edgy?
[09:24] <anto> frogzoo, there is nothing wrong with the cd it works fine on this computer
[09:24] <cwillu> is there still some command you have to run to regenerate some key or something when you change host names?
[09:24] <bilss_> hi
[09:24] <Shadow_mil> Janchi: ok email it to me
[09:24] <[Nige] > I did an upgrade from dapper, but for the life of me I cant get the ati drivers to work.
[09:24] <[Nige] > all i end up with is the mesa drivers
[09:24] <bilss_> i have tried my best to install firefox 2.0 on dapper need some help
[09:25] <palenke2k> sorry by my bad English, some could say to me that it programs I can use to mix music in mp3/ogg? thanks
[09:26] <KnowledgEngi> kernel panic: not syncin, unable to mount root on fs .....
[09:26] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/NS8Tpk66.html
[09:26] <KnowledgEngi> this is the procedure that i used !
[09:26] <KnowledgEngi> i think it's a problem initrd related
[09:26] <Jordan_U> palenke2k: audacity
[09:26] <palenke2k> ok, thanks
[09:27] <Jordan_U> anto: Try editing the boot parameters to just vmlinuz instead of /casper/vmlinuz .
[09:27] <cypher1> how can one control speaker volume from an application ?
[09:27] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ubuntu, :P i can just download the .deb
[09:27] <anto> oki i will try that when i find another power cable :P
[09:28] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> for the language-support-zh
[09:28] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> then i don't need to get all those other files i don't need :D (which apt-get wants)
[09:29] <devilsadvocate> Hinata_sama|iBoo, the .deb will not instal without all its dependancies
[09:29] <bilss_> DBO: How's the coffee these days?
[09:30] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> devilsadvocate, not all depencies are needed
[09:30] <duck_> is there such a piece of hardware as this? dsl-modem, wireless router, print-server -all in one box?
[09:30] <devilsadvocate> Hinata_sama|iBoo, dpkg wont let you install afaik
[09:30] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> it's just that apt-get wants to get all dependencies, even the ones that you don't need
[09:30] <cwillu> duck_: well you could make a linux box doing that
[09:30] <duck_> hmmm, that's a good idea
[09:30] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> i'll give you example
[09:31] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> i want to simply install chinese support on the command line, but it wants to download "openoffice.org-style-default openoffice.org-writer"
[09:31] <duck_> cwillu: I could get a small compter to function as a modem as well?
[09:31] <cwillu> duck_, otherwise, just try poking around on dlink and linksys and see if they show anything interesting
[09:31] <cwillu> sure
[09:31] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> >.<... i just don't need it, and it doesn't need those packages for it to install
[09:31] <cwillu> duck_:  internal dsl modem
[09:32] <duck_> cwillu: d-link and linksys have router-modem and router-print-server
[09:32] <duck_> cwillu: but no modem-print/server/router
[09:32] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> another example is compiling things from source
[09:32] <Jordan_U> Hinata_sama|iBoo: A .deb will do the same thing, you need to tell dpkg to ignore dependencies to keep those from being installed.
[09:32] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> really? damm
[09:32] <cwillu> duck_: small linux box is probably your best bet
[09:33] <Djavdet> Hi all
[09:34] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> anyways that shouldn't be too hard :)
[09:34] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> man dpkg
[09:35] <Jordan_U> Hinata_sama|iBoo: Why not just install what you want, the package you are installing is probably just a meta package, just look at it's dependencies and decide which of them you want to isntall and insall them.
[09:35] <Jordan_U> *install
[09:36] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> it's 116/117 megs of download, and 300+ meg expanded
[09:36] <cherubiel> Hinata_sama|iBoo: thats not true, apt-get builds a dependency graph , only the required packages are installed - it reccomnends ome packages though, which is not essential
[09:36] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> >.<... i have very limited bandwidth and HD space
[09:36] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> damm ISP monopoly down here
[09:37] <devilsadvocate> Hinata_sama|iBoo, what package are you trying to install?
[09:37] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> support-language-zh
[09:37] <Jordan_U> Hinata_sama|iBoo: That is the size of it and it's dependencies, it itself could contain no actuall data.
[09:37] <devilsadvocate> Hinata_sama|iBoo, that seems to be a ghost package
[09:37] <Jordan_U> !meta-package | Hinata_sama|iBoo
[09:37] <ubotu> Hinata_sama|iBoo: A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[09:38] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> so it won't download 117 megs worth of data?
[09:38] <devilsadvocate> Hinata_sama|iBoo, it will
[09:38] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> darn
[09:38] <Jordan_U> Hinata_sama|iBoo: Yes it will, you don't want that package...
[09:39] <Jordan_U> Hinata_sama|iBoo: you want some of the things that package depends on.
[09:39] <Jordan_U> Hinata_sama|iBoo: Is this still just to delete that one file ?
[09:40] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> argh, brb the koi got caught in the net again
[09:40] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ... and they got back out again
[09:40] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> lol
[09:40] <devilsadvocate> Hinata_sama|iBoo, how come i dont find mention of  this package anywhere on the net?
[09:41] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/translations/language-support-zh
[09:41] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> i just googled ubuntu chinese support package
[09:41] <Jordan_U> !info support-language-zh
[09:41] <ubotu> Package support-language-zh does not exist in any distro I know
[09:41] <Hellevator> can someone tell me how to edit the MBR?
[09:42] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> hmm... Hellevator, what do you want to know?
[09:42] <Jordan_U> Hellevator: To do what?
[09:42] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> >.<... editing the MBR can become quite a complicated excersize
[09:42] <Hellevator> I just installed FC6 to test it out but told it not to install a boot loader.  Now I want to edit grub to add the fedora partition
[09:42] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ah
[09:43] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> hmm... take a look at fdisk
[09:43] <devilsadvocate> Hinata_sama|iBoo,  scim-tables-zh
[09:43] <devilsadvocate> Hinata_sama|iBoo, _maybe_
[09:43] <Hellevator> can you give me any more detailed information?
[09:44] <cwillu> !oem
[09:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:44] <Jordan_U> Hellevator: sudo update-grub ? I don't understand why you need to change the MBR, do you need to set the boot flag?
[09:45] <Hellevator> jordan_u I need to edit grub to add the fedora partition I installed.  I'm not sure if i need to edit the MBR or just grub
[09:45] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> just update grub
[09:45] <devilsadvocate> Hellevator, you have grub itself installed?
[09:45] <Hellevator> yeah ubuntu installed grub
[09:45] <Jordan_U> Hellevator: sudo update-grub should do it automatically.
[09:45] <devilsadvocate> Hellevator, wont just editif menu.list work?
[09:46] <devilsadvocate> Hellevator, wont just editing menu.list work?
[09:46] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> hmm... i did a "sudo at"
[09:46] <Hellevator> I'm not sure, i haven't done it before
[09:46] <Hellevator> I will try it
[09:46] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> erm... sudo at *time*
[09:46] <Jordan_U> Hellevator: It is only LILO that changes the MBR when you change configuration.
[09:46] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> and entered a command
[09:46] <deep__> How do i check how much space i have left on my discs?
[09:46] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> do i need to use a command to save/exit at?
[09:46] <Daviey> Does ubuntu edgy use usplash or splashy as the boot splash screen?
[09:46] <deep__> harddrives
[09:46] <Hellevator> hinata_sama why would sudo update grub do it?
[09:47] <cwillu> is it possible to do an oem config from an already install ubuntu?
[09:47] <Daviey> deep__, from the console or in x>?
[09:47] <deep__> Console =)
[09:47] <devilsadvocate> deep__,  typ 'df' in th console
[09:47] <deep__> Thanx :D
[09:47] <Daviey> deep__,   in console use df -h
[09:47] <Jordan_U> Hellevator: update-grub tells grub to look for new bootable partitions
[09:48] <Daviey> deep__, the -h means human readable (ie showing in megs and gigs rather than bytes)
[09:48] <checker> hello?
[09:48] <checker> ne one here?
[09:48] <checker10020> ChanServ
[09:48] <Daviey> nope
[09:48] <Hellevator> jordan_u wow thats an awesome command
[09:48] <Hellevator> im going to restart and see if it worked
[09:48] <Jordan_U> Hellevator: Yup :)
[09:50] <Jordan_U> checker: whats your question ?
[09:50] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> it's alot easier nowadays... lol
[09:51] <Jordan_U> checker10010: What's your question?
[09:51] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[09:51] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/5R0GpE33.html
[09:52] <KnowledgEngi> when i reboot i see the ubuntu presentation and the system make stop
[09:52] <KnowledgEngi> when the system print "ubuntu" in the monitor
[09:53] <KnowledgEngi> it do not continue
[09:55] <cwillu> if I say oem-config-dm, does anybody have a sense of recognition?
[09:57] <Jordan_U> cwillu: Trying to setup an OEM install?
[09:57] <cwillu> yes, but against an already setup system (setup long before I knew about oem mode)
[09:57] <gamboos> does anyone have experience running xmame?
[09:58] <Jordan_U> !oem
[09:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:58] <gamboos> !xmame
[09:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <gamboos> !mame
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mame - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <KomiaPoika> hi
[10:03] <KomiaPoika> is there a noob friendly guide to setup iptables firewall for local router?
[10:04] <monokrome> iptables arn't very newb friendl
[10:04] <monokrome> friendly*
[10:04] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> try firehol
[10:04] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ^_^ very easy to setup a secure fire in litterly seconds :D
[10:04] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> *firewall
[10:04] <KomiaPoika> monokrome: i have to get on it
[10:05] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> *firehol generates iptable rules for ya ;)
[10:06] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> firehol by default drops all traffic, unless explicitly specified
[10:07] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> it's litterly this easy to allow some kinda traffic to some service
[10:07] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> e.g. server "http ssh ftp"   accept
[10:07] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> :D
[10:08] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ^_^ separating rules for local and internet going sides of your traffic is soooo easy to control with firehol :D
[10:09] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> home_ips="<IP_ADDRESS>/24" (local connections)
[10:09] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> rules here
[10:10] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> interface eth0 net src not "${UNROUTABLE_IPS} <IP_ADDRESS>/24" (anything from/going to the internet)
[10:10] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> rules here
[10:12] <makoki_bcn> hello to everybody
[10:13] <makoki_bcn> is anyone from spain?
[10:14] <gamboos> does anyone have experience in installing xmame?
[10:14] <enjee> is there someone who installed a i686 compiled kernel instead of a generic one?
[10:14] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> there's a repo for that somewhere
[10:15] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ah
[10:15] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> well... then you'll could try compiling it from source :D
[10:16] <makoki_bcn> i need some help with ubuntu, need to install a usb-wifi which comes along with Comtren 536+, and i've tried too many times to install it with no results
[10:18] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> hmm... why isn't there a at.allow, created by default in ubuntu?
[10:18] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> or cron.log?
[10:19] <kayxray> Is it possible to set Ubuntu up to auto-login a default user?
[10:19] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> erm... it is...
[10:19] <PecisDarbs> Anyone has ipw3945 on Edgy? It doesn't show up in list of interfaces, altough module is loaded properly, I can see it with lsmod
[10:19] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> but i'm not sure how... ^_^ leave it like that kayxray it's more secure
[10:20] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> *there
[10:20] <juliux> hi all, i tryied edgy and dappper server on my via epia system but booth systems reboot after grub, any ideas what i can do?
[10:20] <kayxray> Hinata_sama|iBoo: :) thanks for the advice.  it's not for me and they really want it to auto-login.  thanks anyhow
[10:20] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> hmm... you could try under users and groups in gnome i think
[10:23] <Fator_Dee> so, I plugged in a new sata-hdd, and it messed up the /dev/ names but the system still works, will I bork my machine if I change fstab and add the new hdd in there?
[10:24] <hoto> Hello, when I try to run Ubuntu in 1024x768 with 85Hz, it displays a refresh rate of 87Hz, and the screen looks like a TV screen that isn't correctly configured...
[10:24] <hoto> I am running an Intel i810
[10:24] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ah
[10:24] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> and you have the drivers installed for it?
[10:24] <hoto> Hinata_sama|iBoo: Yes.
[10:25] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> do you know the exact H refresh rates + V rates?
[10:25] <juliux> any ideas why ubuntu is not working on a via epia system?
[10:26] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> place the minimum + maximum for both of the refresh rates
[10:26] <hoto> In my xorg.conf, my HorizSync is 30-70, and my VertRefresh is 60-85
[10:26] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> and ctrl + alt + backspace
[10:26] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> and startx
[10:26] <iLLf8d> hoto laptop?
[10:27] <hoto> iLLf8d: Acer Desktop. I'm running an AC711 Monitor.
[10:27] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> if that doesn't work... try _(your refresh rate you want to force here)
[10:27] <iLLf8d> ah
[10:27] <RAMiN> hello all, i just ordered the free ubuntu 6.06 cds, how long will it take for them to ship it here if i live in seattle
[10:27] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> e.g. 1024x768_75
[10:27] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> will force 75 HZ for that res
[10:28] <iLLf8d> wow didn't know that one
[10:28] <iLLf8d> ya learn something new every day
[10:28] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> :)
[10:28] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> :)
[10:28] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> opps
[10:29] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> lol, ubuntu doesn't have a at.allow by default!
[10:29] <iLLf8d> I was gonna tell him to gofish and find his monitor specs and remake his xorg.conf
[10:29] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> but has an at.deny
[10:29] <RAMiN> hello all, i just ordered the free ubuntu 6.06 cds, how long will it take for them to ship it here if i live in seattle
[10:29] <iLLf8d> or drop to 800x600 and check what xvidtune output shows as his allowed freqs
[10:30] <RAMiN> seattle, washington
[10:30] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> you need to know your exact min+max refresh rates of your monitor, for the  xorg.conf for H+V refresh thing though
[10:30] <iLLf8d> RAMiN, takes about 2 mo
[10:30] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> alot faster than it takes to get down here
[10:30] <RAMiN> dude, you kidding me
[10:30] <iLLf8d> RAMiN, but if you select express shipping for 40$ they come in 3 days
[10:30] <iLLf8d> yeah I'm joking heh
[10:30] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> nah, in the US it's alot faster
[10:31] <RAMiN> okay good
[10:31] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> >.<... where i live, everything takes ages to come down
[10:31] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> i hear it takes about 2weeks
[10:31] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> over there
[10:31] <RAMiN> that's nice
[10:31] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> for me... i waited about 1 1/2 months
[10:31] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> <= australia :P
[10:31] <RAMiN> cause they accepted my cds on the 13th of november
[10:31] <RAMiN> and now i have to wait for them to ship it out
[10:32] <redDEADresolve> does edgy support dual processors out of the box?
[10:32] <RAMiN> btw, does anyone know Leo Laporte's email address?
[10:32] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> lol
[10:32] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> RAMiN, get it from his site
[10:32] <RAMiN> i tried cant really find it
[10:32] <RAMiN> i guess cause im too tires
[10:32] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> www.twit.tv
[10:33] <iLLf8d> heh
[10:34] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> RAMiN, http://callforhelptv.com/callforhelp/interact/sendquestions.shtml
[10:34] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ;)
[10:34] <RAMiN> ah, thanks so much!
[10:34] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> np
[10:35] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ^_^... for those who have websites, it's a good idea not to expose ur email address to the net
[10:35] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> create email forms that forward the email to you inbox :D
[10:36] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> (it eliminates alot more spam)
[10:36] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> *not
[10:36] <bigz> is there anywhere i can make ubuntu see mt NTFS partition?
[10:37] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> there sure is :D
[10:37] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> mount it
[10:37] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> erm... let me get you a useful guide
[10:37] <bigz> lol okay thanks :)
[10:37] <variant> bigz: what you tryin to do?
[10:38] <bigz> im pretty new to ubuntu just wonderd if there was a way..
[10:38] <Fator_Dee> bigz: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[10:38] <bigz> i just need to axx some stuff on my NTFS drive through buntu
[10:38] <RAMiN> i love http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[10:38] <Fator_Dee> it's there, the link to the actual part of the guide was long so I didn't paste it :-p
[10:38] <RAMiN> those guys are so helpful
[10:38] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[10:38] <bigz> cheers Fator_Dee :)
[10:38] <Fator_Dee> long like that
[10:38] <variant> bigz: ah, you will need to use either the somewhat experimental native write support or captive ntfs which is foolproof
[10:39] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> XD you beat me to it
[10:39] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> if you want to write to an NTFS partition... i recommend NTFSg
[10:39] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> it's quite stable, i certainly haven't had a problem with it :D
[10:39] <gotit> what filesystem type should i select when installing ubuntu
[10:40] <enyc> gotit: leave defaults (i.e. ext3)
[10:40] <anto> can somone tell me what, isolinux: disk error 80, AX = 4200, drive 9f means?
[10:40] <Fator_Dee> but, has anyone in here experience in adding a SATA-hdd, and it borking the former /dev/-order?
[10:40] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> hmmm... it's not called NTFSg actually...
[10:40] <gotit> ok
[10:40] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ah!!
[10:40] <anto> anyone?
[10:40] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> NTFS-3G
[10:40] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> that's the one :D
[10:40] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> anto, what do you plan to use the OS for?
[10:41] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> if you want some performance... i recommend XFS
[10:41] <anto> Lamp
[10:41] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> (great for howuse)
[10:41] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> *home use
[10:41] <gotit> performance what do you mean
[10:41] <anto> Hinata_sama i want to use it for a server for my homepage
[10:41] <enyc> ext3 is always safe-bet... other filesystems like reiser3 reiser4 xfs jfs have various benefits for some situations... and some caveats!
[10:42] <gamboos> does anyone know what this means 'GLERROR: cannot access OpenGL library libGL.so' ?
[10:42] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> yea
[10:42] <gotit> situtions like what
[10:42] <anto> but when i insert the live cd into the computer it starts up then i got 30 seconds to select what i want to do so i select, start or install ubuntu
[10:42] <enyc> like xfs was made for sgi hardware where the hardware could signal powerfail to the OS... does not have this safety on pc hardware!
[10:42] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> xfs, one of the fastest overall, things like reading file names, creating files, reading files etc
[10:42] <anto> it loads the linux kernel to 4% then it chrashes
[10:43] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> and doesn't use as much system resources as a FS like reiser
[10:43] <anto> I/0 error reading boot cd. reboot
[10:43] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> i read a comparison somewhere
[10:43] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> oh! if you chouse XFS
[10:43] <anto> xfs ?
[10:43] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> please make a 60-100 meg ext3 /boot
[10:43] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[10:43] <gotit> i chose ex3
[10:44] <KnowledgEngi> i have problem kernel related
[10:44] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/BrnMiE89.html
[10:44] <anto> how on earth do i do that?
[10:44] <KnowledgEngi> someone can help me please
[10:44] <KnowledgEngi> at page down there are the errors
[10:44] <anto> Hinata ?
[10:44] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> erm.... when ur're creating ur partitions, in the ubuntu installer
[10:45] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> are you installing ubuntu via the text based installer?
[10:45] <gotit> no gui
[10:45] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> if ur're doing it with the text installation...
[10:46] <hoto> Hinata_sama|iBoo: I tried using the force refresh rate, but unfortunately, it's remaining the same. :(
[10:46] <hoto> 87Hz
[10:46] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> when it comes to the part to setup partitions, create a swap file, a ext3 partition (give it 100 megs) and the rest for /
[10:46] <anto> Hinata no i'm not
[10:47] <anto> i don't even come that far
[10:47] <anto> :S
[10:47] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> hoto, have you tried it on different resolutions?
[10:47] <hoto> Yes.
[10:47] <anto> yes
[10:47] <gotit> brb
[10:47] <hoto> 800x600 uses 85Hz
[10:48] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> hmm... in that case you might want google around for someone who has the same problems
[10:48] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> or post your problems at www.linuxquestions.com
[10:48] <anto> :S
[10:48] <anto> k
[10:48] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> (in the forum, under the ubuntu section)
[10:48] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> brb
[10:48] <anto> direct link please
[10:53] <Fator_Dee> how can I find out my hdd's UUID?
[10:53] <tengil> Hi. Are there any reasons perl scripts in cron.hourly won't run? (cron is running)
[10:53] <gotit> its now askin for mount point 2 option and partion 2 option
[10:54] <Tomcat_> tengil: Check for owner/group, permissions (has to be the same as the rest)
[10:54] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> Fator_Dee, mount -l
[10:54] <Tomcat_> Fator_Dee: Depends on the fs...
[10:54] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> oh wait the permissions thing
[10:54] <kud0s> how do i diagnose this my current load server load according to uptime is 3.00 3.00 3.00 from what i heat, thats not good
[10:54] <Fator_Dee> well, I just formatted a new hd with qtparted, and now I was going to add it to fstab
[10:55] <Fator_Dee> and I see that it has converted the /dev/sdX's to UUID's
[10:55] <KnowledgEngi> http://rafb.net/paste/results/FeSfGz78.html
[10:55] <KnowledgEngi> someone can help me please
[10:55] <Tomcat_> Fator_Dee: sudo tune2fs -l /dev/hdd
[10:55] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> can someone explain at to me >.<
[10:55] <gotit> its now askin for mount point 2 option and partion 2 option what should i choose
[10:55] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> it tried sudo at now
[10:55] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> eject
[10:56] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> it doens't do it ;_;
[10:56] <fnf> Hi, does anyone have an idea of how to disable a device on boot up ? Or better, change the IRQ of a device. I'm having an IRQ conflict between my video card and a built-in network card.
[10:56] <tengil> Tomcat: owner/group is ok
[10:56] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> do i have to exit at in some special way?
[10:56] <kud0s> fnf: have you lookind in bios
[10:56] <Tomcat_> kud0s: Check "ps -ef" and "top"
[10:56] <kud0s> tomcat_: 1 sec
[10:57] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> anyone?
[10:57] <fnf> kud0s: unfortunately, it is a notebook so I found no options.
[10:57] <tengil> Tomcat: scripts are rwxrwxrwx an are set to run as root in crontab
[10:57] <fnf> kud0s: In particular: Acer Aspire 5583WXMi
[10:57] <Tomcat_> tengil: I thought you had it in cron.hourly, why now crontab?
[10:57] <Fator_Dee> Tomcat_: it says "tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda"
[10:57] <fnf> I'd like to try to disable the network card first, if possible.
[10:57] <rosen37> Please how to add a route permanent for xfce
[10:57] <Tomcat_> Fator_Dee: You sure that's the correct device?
[10:57] <tengil> i have them in cron.hourly
[10:58] <Fator_Dee> Tomcat_: I am
[10:58] <tengil> Tomcat: have them in hourly, sorry
[10:58] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> anyone?
[10:58] <Tomcat_> Fator_Dee: You did use sudo, right?
[10:58] <Fator_Dee> Tomcat_: oh, had to write /dev/sda1
[10:58] <Tomcat_> tengil: Weird... should work. :\
[10:59] <tengil> Tomcat: I know, usually does :-)
[10:59] <Tomcat_> Fator_Dee: Oh yeah, didn't test it here... it has to be a partition, not a disk. :)
[10:59] <MattJ> Hinata_sama|iBoo: What's the problem?
[10:59] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> MattJ, trying to use "at"
[10:59] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> i did a sudo at now
[10:59] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> then
[10:59] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> eject
[10:59] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> :( it's not doing it
[10:59] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> do i have to exit at in some special way?
[11:00] <MattJ> Pres Ctrl+D
[11:00] <Tomcat_> Hinata_sama|iBoo: at reads from stdin, so you have to Ctrl+D.
[11:00] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ah
[11:00] <Fator_Dee> Tomcat_: do you know how I could change the size of the ext3's journal when formatting this drive?
[11:00] <MattJ> Caught me out first time too :)
[11:00] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ^_^ thanks guys
[11:00] <MattJ> np
[11:00] <Balachmar> I have a question about sessions, I want to add a startup program, and I know how to do this, but Ubuntu immediately forgets this
[11:00] <Fator_Dee> 15gigs sounds a little high even for 320gig hd
[11:00] <gamboos> anyone know why i get the error 'GLERROR: cannot access OpenGL library libGL.so'
[11:01] <Balachmar> How do I get Ubuntu to remember the startup programs
[11:01] <variant> Balachmar: system > prefs > startup
[11:02] <bimberi> s/startup/session, startup tab/
[11:02] <patrick_king> flyingsquirrel32: hey are you there. i just found out that the domain im trying to connect to is a windows 2003 server
[11:02] <bimberi> +s
[11:02] <Tomcat_> Fator_Dee: Well... just pass the options to mkfs.ext3... but I have never done that.
[11:02] <kud0s> topcat_: top says the my cpu is being used 100% but id (im assumind idle) also its running very low on ram
[11:02] <Balachmar> yes I know but, if I fill in something there
[11:02] <Fator_Dee> Tomcat_: never have I :-/
[11:02] <Balachmar> And I save it and then open that window again it is gone
[11:03] <variant> kud0s: 100% idle means it's not being used. your ram is being used for cache, to speed up applications and files. to see the real amount of ram thats actualy _in use_ use vmstat
[11:04] <variant> Balachmar: odd, sounds like a bug
[11:05] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> :D nice! XD... using the at command, doesn't leave stuff in a log!
[11:05] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> haha
[11:05] <kud0s> thanks variant: but no processes are using any more than 0.5% of cpy why do i have a 3.00 3.00 3.00 load average ?
[11:05] <variant> kud0s: that cached ram is imediately swapped out or cleared if annother program requires access to ram.. you can configure the swappiness to change the behavioiur
[11:05] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> (the things i could do on my campus's linux labs computers...
[11:05] <patrick_king> exit
[11:06] <variant> kud0s: have you done any cpu intenseive tasks since the system first booted?
[11:06] <kud0s> shouldne the load average be less than 1.00
[11:06] <kud0s> no
[11:07] <variant> kud0s: not really, the load average should be an average of what you have been doing.. if you just booted then there is a spike as the boot and application startup usess a lot of cpu.. the average will come down over time
[11:07] <variant> kud0s: it's nothing to worry about
[11:07] <Fator_Dee> Tomcat_: ok, found it out
[11:08] <Fator_Dee> thanks 'nyways
[11:08] <kud0s> variant; thanks that makes me feel better i was ust wondering if the system was dying
[11:08] <variant> kud0s: hehe
[11:09] <gotit> tell /media/hda1 is this for swap or "/" is for swap
[11:09] <variant> gotit: what?
[11:09] <gotit> i am installing ubuntu
[11:09] <gotit> its asking for two partions
[11:09] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> hmm... i really should make myself a backup script
[11:09] <gotit> why two
[11:10] <variant> gotit: one for swap and one for root (/)
[11:10] <gotit> media/hda1 for swap than i guess
[11:10] <gotit> swap should be smaller in size  i guess
[11:11] <variant> gotit: windows uses a swap file if i recall, that means that when the hard disk is getting full there is less and less swap available. this is bad. having it on a seperate parititon also makes it more efficient. you should put it on the fastest part of the disk (outside edge)
[11:11] <variant> gotit: no, you don't mount swap at all.. it wont have a mount point
[11:11] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> or even better, on another disk all together!
[11:11] <Hinata_sama|iBoo> ;)
[11:11] <gotit> but its asking for 2 partitions