[00:00] <joshu> MidnightNinja2 unfortunately someone with more grub experience will have to chime in on that. sorry
[00:00] <arisdario> Why ubuntu use 2.8 GB from 8 GB ?
[00:01] <MidnightNinja2> its all good, thanks
[00:01] <arisdario> what if i have only 2GB ?
[00:04] <KromiX> FIXED it!
[00:04] <Benxyzzy> How do I add a file to initramfs using update-initramfs? Where do I have to put the file, to be included in the boot filesystem?
[00:04] <KromiX> had to do this: http://www.unixresources.net/linux/lf/12/archive/00/00/13/92/139242.html
[00:04] <crocket> Did anyone preorder ubuntu edge phone?
[00:05] <Awaken> $800 :(
[00:05] <Awaken> or rather [insert $600-$800] :(
[00:05] <KromiX> pain in th ass!
[00:07] <Fah> Ubuntu on 6,2 macbook in eufi mode on 13.04? Anyone happen to be running this? The help.ubuntu.com site doesn't really go past 12.04 on that hardware
[00:07] <daftykins> KromiX: any progress?
[00:07] <KromiX> got it
[00:08] <daftykins> what was it?
[00:08] <KromiX> windows bs error
[00:08] <KromiX> regedit fix...
[00:08] <KromiX> http://www.unixresources.net/linux/lf/12/archive/00/00/13/92/139242.html
[00:08] <FloodBot1> KromiX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <KromiX> not sure what IrpStackSize does yet, gonna read about it
[00:09] <KromiX> but setting it to 30 worked
[00:09] <daftykins> KromiX: cool :) thanks for sharing
[00:09] <KromiX> yea, that 1 was pretty obscure lol
[00:09] <KromiX> The IRPStackSize parameter specifies the number of stack locations in I/O request packets (IRPs) that are used by Windows
[00:10] <KromiX> no idea why it was an issue never had this issue before on any windows install, and this was a fresh format, no changes on system
[00:10] <arisdario> Ati Radeon 6490M is supported by ubuntu ?
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> arisdario, Take a look for yourself. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=6490M
[00:12] <awpti> So, dumb question. I've been through the manual and I can't figure this out. I've installed some apps via the software center and now I can't find them anywhere since rebooting. How do you find installed applications?
[00:13] <smgordon> My nvidia 9800gt 128mb card works perfect
[00:13] <arisdario> so AMD, f*** you!
[00:13] <arisdario> thats the final word on askubuntu
[00:13] <wilee-nilee> !language | arisdario
[00:13] <PalSal> anybody here have blogs and want quality backlinks for free msg me !
[00:13] <Aprel> awpti: type the name of the apps in the dash? Do they come up?
[00:13] <arisdario> Sorry, i coy paste that language
[00:13] <arisdario> from ask ubuntu
[00:14] <awpti> Aprel, yes.
[00:14] <alexanderW> awpti /usr/share/applications
[00:14] <wilee-nilee> arisdario, Enough if that and they will ban you.
[00:14] <arisdario> yes, sorry, my mistake
[00:15] <KromiX> ty daftykins for the help btw
[00:15] <smgordon> Awpti: dash, type in app name, it will show up
[00:15] <arisdario> So no, Ati Radeon doesn't support 6490M Graphics video
[00:15] <arisdario> on Ubuntu
[00:16] <awpti> Is there a way to add them to a bar of some sort? Seems rather silly that I have to type the name of an app i've installed to use it.
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> PalSal, That is considered spam.
[00:16] <thiebaude> arisdario, i tried everything to get catalyst control center on ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop and its a no go
[00:16] <arisdario> and if i install some apps like apache, mysql, and playing youtube video my laptop go to 100 degrees
[00:17] <Aprel> awpti: you can drag the icons to the launcher on the left of the screen and they'll stay there. If the app is running, right click and click 'lock in launcher'
[00:17] <smgordon> Arisdario :  http://askubuntu.com/questions/185548/open-source-driver-for-amd-radeon-hd-6490m
[00:17] <pvl1> gnome-panel has a lot of dependencies, is there a good alternative?
[00:17] <thiebaude> arisdario, install tlp
[00:17] <crocket> Ubuntu Edge phone for the winner
[00:17] <crocket> iOS for the loser
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> !ot > crocket
[00:18] <snake2243> hello guys
[00:18] <thiebaude> hey snake
[00:18] <arisdario> @thiebaude: with tlp my laptop is an old car :(
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, gnome panel what desktop is that?
[00:18] <arisdario> i agree that it save a lot battery, but is worse than power saver from windows
[00:18] <snake2243> hey you guys I am looking for a group of peaple that like to use the shell, I am still currently learning the basics but it would be nice to have friends that have the same hobby as me
[00:19] <thiebaude> arisdario, i noticed on my laptop, its much cooler
[00:19] <snake2243> any one instrested?
[00:20] <marlinc> Anybody who would like to take at my first blog thing I've written? marlinc.nl/uncategorized/third-party-login-and-you/
[00:20] <arisdario> for dev things is not recommended to have tlp
[00:20] <thiebaude> snake2243, maybe check with #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:20] <Kitt3n> !ot | snake2243
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> marlinc, This is ubuntu support.
[00:20] <snake2243> oh, my bad
[00:20] <snake2243> first time using irc
[00:21] <kostkon> marlinc, unrelated to ubuntu, thus spam
[00:21] <marlinc> Ah well thats right :p where would I ask something like that mm
[00:21] <Jinx_swe> Heya. Can anyone help me with X forwarding via ssh? I get "no display specified" error. If I export DISPLAY=:0.0 or the like I get "display not found" error.
[00:21] <marlinc> The offtopic channels?
[00:21] <marlinc> Well whatever never mind :p
[00:21] <rombuntutu> New with ubuntu . recently can't boot : " Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init /bin/sh: 0: Can't open ro"  , I've tried boot-repair and fsck  on live CD, someone has another ideas.
[00:22] <rombuntutu> ?
[00:22] <Fah> Jinx_swe: you doing "ssh -A <host>" or "ssh -X <host>"? Does the host have xinit on it?
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, The details leading to always help.
[00:22] <wilee-nilee> for the channel not me
[00:23] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: im trying to use metacity if thats what ur asking
[00:23] <arisdario> seem to be much faster ubuntu 13
[00:23] <Jinx_swe> @Fah doing ssh -xy {host}
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Not really the desktop.
[00:23] <Fah> Jinx_swe: add a -v and see what it says about X11
[00:23] <arisdario> or im so tire and the computer is so fast
[00:24] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: well im trying to stick to gnome... maybe im missunderstanding the question
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, The gnome shell, or fallback, gnome3 underlies unity as well
[00:24] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: i removed unity
[00:24] <pvl1> and compiz
[00:25] <arisdario> somebody know why i see a lot of folders with found.0,found.01, found...
[00:25] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: tryina make a custom livecd
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Would that seem pertinent in your original posts? Can't really help there myself.
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, I like the cairo-dock, not sure if that works for you, other docks are out there.
[00:27] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: well my main problem right now is that i want a panel in my session, but gnome-panel has a large list of dependencies, most of which i dont want... so i wanted an alternate
[00:27] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: ill check that out actually
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> cairo may have problems in metacity not sure realy
[00:28] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: do you remember ubuntu prior to unity? it had a bar at the top, apps, places, system
[00:28] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee,  thanks, first question : what are the commands I should try first from the ubuntu liveCD in order to make ubuntu boot again
[00:28] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: thats kinda what im looking for
[00:28] <kostkon> pvl1, give us an example of the unwanted deps
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Yeah gnome2, not sure of a panel though.
[00:29] <veryhappy> hi guys -- might there be any possiblity to setup a home server to go to sleep and wake up when needed by a computer in the local net on a specific port?
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, Not sure you have tried what I would a fsck, and check grub, a bit out of my knowledge area without googling.
[00:29] <pvl1> kostkon: evolution, cups, gstreamer
[00:30] <pvl1> kostkon: and it install libunity
[00:30] <kostkon> pvl1, are you trying to install the gnome-fallback-session metapackage
[00:31] <daftykins> veryhappy: you could use WOL to trigger a system to wake up on command - not so sure about scheduling auto though
[00:31] <pvl1> kostkon: remove unity for a custom livecd
[00:31] <kostkon> pvl1, ah. now i get it ok
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> wake on lan - can be a bit.. finicky
[00:31] <pvl1> kostkon: sorry shouldve been more clear
[00:31] <kostkon> pvl1, np
[00:31] <pvl1> kostkon: any reccomendations?
[00:32] <veryhappy> daftykins: that's why i asked. used to wake up computer by command but not auto...
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, NO image of the OS running fine or backups?
[00:32] <daftykins> veryhappy: some proper server systems have settings to allow power on at given times
[00:32] <kostkon> pvl1, hmm i can't help you with that sorry :/
[00:33] <pvl1> kostkon: its kool thank you tho
[00:33] <kostkon> pvl1, :)
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, Did you save the bootinfo summary generated by bootrepair?
[00:34] <veryhappy> daftykins: but what about me want to go use the computer and the proxy isn't on at this time? i don't need it randomly i need it when i send a request
[00:34] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee, I think i did only backup of my files, yes I have one : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5914764/
[00:34] <st12> hey
[00:35] <daftykins> veryhappy: so it's a web proxy?
[00:35] <veryhappy> daftykins: yep.
[00:35] <veryhappy> daftykins: squid3. used as cache proxy
[00:35] <st12> so is ubuntu better then windows
[00:36] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee, I tried to "read" it but I don't understand... my skills are usually limited to google researches and the ubuntuforum post
[00:36] <veryhappy> st12: it always depends what you want to do with a system.
[00:36] <daftykins> veryhappy: why turn it off? power conservation?
[00:36] <veryhappy> daftykins: i'm living here with my mom, i also need to look out on the power conservation, cause SHE pays the bills.
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, Looks okay, yeah not a easy read for sure, have you tried both kernel sets?
[00:37] <daftykins> veryhappy: and you run a local proxy? :) why not turn it into a VM that runs when you boot your system...
[00:38] <veryhappy> daftykins: good point, but me having a lot of computers and a nettop wanted to try out if it works that good like it should.
[00:40] <daftykins> veryhappy: mmm, i used to run a caching proxy atop my dedicated router PC :) back in the day. it was neat because me and housemates read the same news sites so it reduced the repeated requests for the same site. a setup for a single person seems a tad overkill though. anyway, can't come up with any better ideas i'm afraid
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> use a raspberry pi for the server. :) it uses like less power then your nightlight. ;P
[00:41] <savagejen> Is Mir in saucy already?
[00:41] <veryhappy> daftykins: what's "atop"?
[00:41] <rombuntutu> <wilee-nilee, sorry  I m slow, I try to learn at the same time ( I was not  sure to know about kernel sets) If it when you open ubuntu and choose between the different kernel available ? Or is this something you do with the terminal commands ?
[00:41] <trism> savagejen: no
[00:41] <savagejen> ok
[00:41] <Jinx_swe> daftykins - that's overkill for newspapers too you know :-)
[00:42] <PalSal> Jinx_swe what is a overkill ?
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, You will see this in the grub menu, you may need to tap the shift to get the menu if you only have one OS.
[00:42] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee, ok ok yes I tried all and always the same "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init /bin/sh: 0: Can't open ro"
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu,  one of the choices is the previous kernels I forget the name you have two sets altogether.
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, Did you fsck the partition?
[00:43] <daftykins> Jinx_swe: ...what? that doesn't even make sense...
[00:43] <daftykins> veryhappy: 'on top of'
[00:47] <sam113101> HELP
[00:47] <sam113101> I can't run wireshark as non-root, it doesn't pick up any interface
[00:47] <Jinx_swe> PaSal: Overkill - Destructive nuclear capacity exceeding the amount needed to destroy an enemy. Apparently. According to the free online dictionary =)
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> sam113101, This ubuntu?
[00:48] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee, I use  Gparted with ubunutu liveCD and the command sudo fsck /dev/sda1..
[00:48] <sam113101> wilee-nilee: yes, on ubuntu
[00:50] <daftykins> sam113101: that's pretty normal. run it as root...
[00:50] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee, is there a best way to fsck the partition other than using the ubuntu LiveCD ?
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> rombuntutu:  from recovery/rescue mode
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, I have had to only fsck a couple of times so not real familiar, here is a link. The partition has to be unmounted to at boot or a live cd is the norm.
[00:51] <Dr_Willis> rombuntutu:  but i use live cds
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SystemAdministration/Fsck
[00:51] <sam113101> daftykins: it warns me not to do that
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> s/to/so
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  it needs to run as root to get full access.. running stuff as root is dangerous ;) so you decide
[00:52] <sam113101> Dr_Willis: I was able to run it as non-root by adding myself to the wireshark group, usually
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> you normally wouldent want users running wireshark.. that could be even mroe dangerous
[00:52] <Dr_Willis> sam113101:  perhaps time to check its docs/wiki/faq
[00:53] <daftykins> sam113101: as long as you close it at the end i don't see any issue.
[00:53] <daftykins> you want to run it with gksudo though, not sudo
[00:53] <veryhappy> daftykins: sorry was just away
[00:54] <veryhappy> daftykins: thank you, i think i'll have to figure it out for myself, are there any functions that i can enable like network reducing and prefetching?
[00:54] <veryhappy> daftykins: squid3 i mean
[00:54] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee, thanks, I think Gparted fsck the partition...I guess It doesnt repair enough for my issue
[00:55] <daftykins> veryhappy: i'm afraid i'm still struggling with how any of that is useful for one or two users :)
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> rombuntutu, I wondered if it does, a regular fsck might be the answer.
[00:55] <veryhappy> daftykins: it IMPROVES the speed.
[00:55] <daftykins> only on repeated accesses surely
[00:55] <veryhappy> daftykins: and anyway when i want to become an administrator just good for my future you got it?
[00:56] <veryhappy> daftykins: when i learn it now i'm able to setup stuff in no time.
[00:56] <daftykins> heh
[00:56] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee,my fsck resuls is : "/dev/sda1: clean, 661870/30269440 files, 28235447/121056768 blocks"
[00:58] <rombuntutu>  wilee-nilee, I found the post about the same problem I have on ubuntuforums... do you know how long the website is still down?
[00:59] <veryhappy> btw does it make a difference when i install the minimal version and set it up with another kernel for server usage or should i install a server version from a cdrom?
[01:00] <jrib> veryhappy: what?
[01:00] <Awaken> the kernels are identical now apparently
[01:00] <veryhappy> jrib: what didn't you understand?! i wrote clearly what i want to know
[01:00] <Awaken> the -server is just there for compatibility
[01:00] <jrib> veryhappy: it's difficult to parse what you mean.  Rephrase it
[01:00] <rombuntutu> wilee-nilee, I guess I ll wait for the ubuntuforums, thanks for your help!
[01:01] <veryhappy> Awaken: thanks, cause i'm using the minimal version of ubuntu and always install the stuff i need to keep the system clean and fast.
[01:01] <Awaken> that'll be fine
[01:01] <veryhappy> i guess that's the best way
[01:01] <Awaken> only difference is surrounding packages, installer, and default configs
[01:01] <Awaken> and i dont think theres much difference there
[01:02] <veryhappy> good.
[01:02] <Awaken> but it wont report itself as ubuntu server
[01:02] <Awaken> which would bug me :D
[01:02] <Awaken> im sure u can change that tho lol
[01:02] <veryhappy> Awaken: why wouldn't it?
[01:02] <Awaken> cos its not
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> reporting as a 'server' ? makes me wonder how theres any differance..
[01:02] <jrib> where does it report as "server"?
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> desktop and server differances are  rather minimal as far as ive seen.. getting smaller every release
[01:03] <Awaken> cat /etc/*-release
[01:03] <veryhappy> ah got it that's why
[01:03]  * Dr_Willis makes his pc report itself as Skynet.
[01:03] <Awaken> :)
[01:03] <veryhappy> Awaken: well, i'm exercising for now. later i can take the server version and everything will be fine.
[01:03] <jrib> Awaken: what am I looknig for?
[01:04] <Awaken> actually, my ubuntu server doesnt report itself as ubuntu server anyway lol
[01:04] <Awaken> just Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS"
[01:04] <Awaken> thought it used to say Ubuntu server xxxx
[01:04]  * Dr_Willis wonders why it really matters
[01:04] <veryhappy> Awaken: is there actually any way to let firefox automatically recognize on another computer where the proxy server is located? like <IP_ADDRESS> as an example?
[01:04] <Awaken> yes
[01:04] <Awaken> although
[01:04] <Awaken> ive never done it
[01:04] <Awaken> its done through dhcp
[01:05] <Awaken> you can assign a config server for proxy settings
[01:05] <Awaken> like assigning a PXE boot location for network boot
[01:05] <Awaken> i decided it was easier just to enter it manually :D
[01:05] <veryhappy> Awaken: well, how does firefox know when i'm statically configure the ip addresses and setup in firefox automatically recognize the proxy server?
[01:06] <Awaken> it's a systemwide thing
[01:06] <Awaken> or you could setup a transparent proxy of course if you wanted
[01:06] <veryhappy> Awaken: what's a transparent proxy good for?
[01:06] <Awaken> forcing all http traffic to go through a proxy
[01:06] <Awaken> e.g. in a workplace to enforce blocking websites
[01:07] <Awaken> google transparent proxy for info
[01:07] <Awaken> firefox though does let you set manual settings ignoring systemwide settings
[01:07] <Awaken> chrome / ie dont
[01:07] <Awaken> which is why i have firefox on my machine lol
[01:07] <veryhappy> Awaken: well that's not the idea in this case. i just wanted a cache proxy and want to let it automatically recognize if the home server is down or up and can provide the service.
[01:07] <Awaken> yeah you can do that
[01:07] <Awaken> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd361887.aspx
[01:08] <veryhappy> Awaken: but: i'm not using dhcp for my computer
[01:08] <Awaken> well you should be :D
[01:08] <veryhappy> even not for the other computers...
[01:08] <Awaken> makes it easier
[01:08] <veryhappy> Awaken: i'm the administrator here at home.
[01:09] <Awaken> dhcp isnt hard
[01:09] <Awaken> just means you dont have to set IP's lol
[01:09] <veryhappy> Awaken: i'm using static ip addresses for my own computers other pcs get dhcp adresses
[01:09] <Awaken> you can bind a mac address (ie physical network card) to a particular IP
[01:09] <Awaken> achieving the same effect
[01:09] <Awaken> only it'll still have that static IP in any OS you boot up on that box, and it will still have it if you reinstall the OS
[01:09] <Awaken> :P
[01:09] <veryhappy> Awaken: you don't seem to know i know what dhcp is, i just decided not to use it for my own reasons
[01:10] <veryhappy> Awaken: dude, i want to become administrator. if i don't know anything i'll ask you ok?
[01:10] <Awaken> why the sudden flaming ?
[01:10] <Awaken> you wanted proxy auto conf, u can do that with dhcp
[01:10] <Awaken> and if you want static IP's you can still do that through dhcp
[01:11] <Awaken> only you never need to set them up again
[01:11] <veryhappy> Awaken: cause i don't like people to think i don't know about technics and informatics ok? that's all.
[01:11] <jrib> !ot
[01:11] <veryhappy> jrib: stop teasing us.
[01:11] <Awaken> fine. I was just pointing out you could still have the benefits of a static IP through DHCP
[01:11] <Awaken> and also get proxy auto configuration
[01:11] <veryhappy> Awaken: and how does firefox find the right proxy?
[01:12] <Awaken> I dont know ive not tried it but I guess it will default to the initial system wide configuration first
[01:12] <Awaken> therefore it would work the same as other browsers
[01:12] <Awaken> just because you can save a separate configuration for firefox doesnt mean it ignores the system proxy settings
[01:12] <Awaken> althought it might, i've not tried it :D
[01:12] <Awaken> the actual auto config though is a javascript file on a web server
[01:12] <veryhappy> Awaken: i just wondered because i was checking the traffic on the server monitor and didn't see anything when i checked automatically use the proxy.
[01:13] <Awaken> um
[01:13] <Awaken> not sure what you mean by that
[01:13] <veryhappy> Awaken: i was looking up on iftop if there's any traffic coming from my notebook, nothing, i checked "use proxy for every address" and bam! everything came up
[01:14] <Awaken> erum
[01:14] <Awaken> still dont really get the relevance
[01:15] <Awaken> like i said i dont know if firefox grabs the system proxy
[01:15] <veryhappy> Awaken: when i use my nettop for example i don't always want to switch it on, and so i get an error but if firefox would automatically detect if there's a proxy or not, it would have to use it or not.
[01:16] <Awaken> hm
[01:16] <veryhappy> the nettop IS the proxy btw
[01:16] <Awaken> tbh you probably dont need a proxy
[01:16] <Awaken> for a home
[01:16] <Awaken> unless you want to block sites from your kids or something
[01:16] <veryhappy> Awaken: i'm adminstrator i'm trying out stuff...
[01:16] <Awaken> web browser caching on every system will do most of the grunt work
[01:17] <Awaken> well i have no idea if it will auto failover to NOT using a proxy if you've set it up to use a proxy
[01:17] <veryhappy> Awaken: i got no kids :D i'm 25.
[01:17] <Awaken> it's not something you'd normally need
[01:17] <Awaken> either you have a proxy, and you make sure its up, or you dont
[01:18] <Awaken> hmm
[01:18] <veryhappy> Awaken: ok then i have to enable or disable it manually... thanks anyway and don't worry about my last statement i'm thankful i just wanted to state that i know what dhcp is and other as well :)
[01:18] <Awaken> if you setup proxy auto config via dhcp or something I guess it would do a check every time you turn on the system and it gets it's IP
[01:18] <Awaken> and if it cant find a config, would presumably not try and use the proxy
[01:19] <veryhappy> Awaken: good. i'll check it out
[01:19] <Awaken> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_auto-config
[01:19] <veryhappy> thanks
[01:19] <Awaken> good starting point, quite a detailed article actually
[01:19] <veryhappy> i'll read it
[01:19] <veryhappy> take care buddy thank youi
[01:19] <Awaken> np, have fun :D
[01:20] <veryhappy> sure will
[01:20] <veryhappy> bye
[01:24] <shahan> hey guys, this is interesting, i have currently an extended desktop with two monitors of different size
[01:24] <shahan> i'm using the laptop's the smaller one as the extension and the bigger one has the launcher
[01:25] <shahan> when i blowup a youtube video fullscreen with firefox or chromium on the bigger screen it's odd and wrongly fitted
[01:25] <shahan> but with google-chrome it works fine, the youtube video fits perfectly
[01:25] <shahan> fullscreened
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> shahan, You have the resolution separated for each monitor
[01:26] <shahan> indeed, and that "error" shows with firefox and chromium
[01:26] <shahan> but  why does chrome work well?
[01:26] <Aprel> firefox and chrome use a different version of flash
[01:27] <shahan> i understand firefox and chrome, but chromium and chrome?!
[01:27] <shahan> ah
[01:28] <shahan> it's clearly imitation the laptop's resolution when skewed, maybe if i switch the launcher placement, so weird...
[01:28] <shahan> *imitating
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> chromium would be using the ubuntu repos flash I believe if that is the problem.
[01:28] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  ahhhhhh yes, both firefox and chromium are the ubuntu apps, chrome is different
[01:29] <shahan> that's so odd, I wonder if it'd be quick fix to have chromium working with this, it's not a big deal at all though.
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> shahan, I 'm not really sure, so will leave this for those that may have more insight. ;)
[01:30] <shahan> i'll post it with pics, on the forums
[01:30] <shahan> once they're back...
[01:30] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  thanks though
[01:30] <Awaken> yeah chromium would surely not use the same flash as chrome
[01:30] <Awaken> because its entirely free isnt it? and flash not free :P
[01:32] <wilee-nilee> goolgle just forks the latest adobe into theirs, pepper flash, would be my guess it is the same release number generally.
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> both are free in cost but not fee as in open source
[01:33] <wilee-nilee> free*
[01:33] <shahan> switched launcher to smaller monitor that didn't work, i thought maybe emphasis or something...
[01:35] <shahan> and same resolutions doesn't work either, so very odd... lol
[01:36] <shahan> and what's the whole deal with chromium and chrome??  one comes with ubuntu and the other doesn't?  Chromium is more frequently updated and possibly more buggy or something?
[01:37] <San1ty> Hi, Can I install ubuntu TO a usb stick FROM a windows install?
[01:37] <San1ty> so it should be a fully installed persistent version on that usb stick
[01:37] <shahan> San1ty: i used some bootable usb creator called Lili or seomthing
[01:38] <Awaken> that will load it all into RAM though same as a live CD
[01:38] <Awaken> you dont really want to have the system actually installed onto USB
[01:38] <San1ty> hmm
[01:38] <San1ty> I haven an issue
[01:38] <joubin> San1ty: just go through a normal install and choose usb as the install point. if your hardware supports it.
[01:38] <Awaken> the way an operating system uses its filesystem would rapidly kill the sort of memory used on USB sticks
[01:38] <shahan> yeah sounds like you want to get rid of windows and have ubuntu only on the machine?
[01:38] <San1ty> I need to have a persistent install somewhere
[01:38] <San1ty> but I suspect my HDD to be broken
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> San1ty, Unetbootin will do that and a handful of othere pendrivelinux has some of them.
[01:38] <Awaken> at the very least dont make a swap partition :D
[01:39] <shahan> you could install on some kind external hard drive...
[01:39] <San1ty> I wish I still had one available
[01:39] <shahan> not usb ..stick. flash drive .. or what have you, though
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> San1ty, A persistent will fill up and a ISO load had limitations, if you have a usb big enough a full install may be better
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> has*
[01:40] <San1ty> all my drives are used up
[01:40] <San1ty> and the HDD on that machine has a windows install
[01:40] <Awaken> build a fileserver and clear up :D
[01:40] <San1ty> and that windows install is doign crazy things
[01:40] <shahan> surely not any kind of regular USB device, something specific
[01:40] <San1ty> control panel breaking etc
[01:40] <San1ty> so I suspect a broken disk
[01:40] <shahan> try dual booting ubuntu?
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> you can get fairly sizable flash drive cheap, if you have an extra 20$ us
[01:41] <San1ty> hmm gonna think about it tomorrow with a clear head
[01:41] <San1ty> bit too tired now
[01:41] <San1ty> thanks anyway guys
[01:41] <Awaken> if you just want to get to your stuff
[01:41] <San1ty> best option would be
[01:41] <shahan> you could install ubuntu on a small partition of the HDD
[01:41] <FloodBot1> San1ty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:41] <San1ty> get a new HDD
[01:41] <San1ty> is there an easy way in windows to check disk integrity
[01:41] <San1ty> or disk HDD erros
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> San1ty, Get a SSD if you can.
[01:41] <Awaken> and back it up etc, boot off a live CD, and you'll be able to browse your hard drives etc
[01:41] <San1ty> just to know if something is wrong with it
[01:41] <Awaken> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/guide-to-using-check-disk-in-windows-vista/
[01:42] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  oh man i'm dying to get one of those
[01:42] <San1ty> I don't need an SSD guys
[01:42] <San1ty> I'm trying to run a very small server with horrible specs
[01:42] <San1ty> it just needs to work
[01:42] <shahan> San1ty: could try running the chkDisk for erros at the startup
[01:42] <San1ty> either windows or ubuntu
[01:42] <San1ty> yeah but isn't checkdisk mostly BS?
[01:42] <shahan> *errors
[01:42] <San1ty> isn't there a better tool that just tells me
[01:42] <San1ty> your HDD is broken or it isn't
[01:43] <San1ty> I don't want to know if every windows file is ok
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> shahan, I got a nice crucial 256 gig for about 200$, but I had financial aid sitting around, best investment yet
[01:43] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  that's a great deal, damn youz and your fast as hell startup!
[01:44]  * wilee-nilee loves amazon, especially prime purchase.
[01:44] <Awaken> http://hddscan.com/
[01:44] <shahan> San1ty: uhh i think something like smartDisk... or something on partableApps.com
[01:44] <Awaken> http://www.hdtune.com/
[01:44] <Awaken> them
[01:44] <Awaken> probs hdtune
[01:44] <FloodBot1> Awaken: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:45] <San1ty> I installed diskcheckup from passmark
[01:47] <heroes> hello
[01:47] <heroes> gud morning
[01:47] <San1ty> I've head the worst experience ever with that machine I'm setting up
[01:47] <San1ty> installed windows 7, ubuntu, Win 8, Win 8 again, Win 8 refresh
[01:47] <San1ty> all due to strange errors I didn't understand
[01:47] <San1ty> googling gave me nothing
[01:47] <San1ty> might have been fucked up hdd all along :(
[01:48] <heroes> do u know.?
[01:48] <San1ty> no I'm still nto sure it's the disk
[01:48] <San1ty> but it's an ancient disk
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> hard drives seem to be the weakest link these days.
[01:48] <San1ty> for sure 10 years old
[01:48] <Dr_Willis> 10 yr old?  definatly time to replace it then.
[01:48] <heroes> how to install ubuntu on my android phone?
[01:48] <San1ty> yeah
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> heroes: totally depends on what you expect and the phone.
[01:49] <San1ty> but there's no surefire way to know
[01:49] <San1ty> is my HDD broken or isn't it
[01:49] <San1ty> Windows isn't giving any IO error
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> every hd WILL fail eventually
[01:49] <San1ty> that's also strange IMHO
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> its just a matter of time and how badly.
[01:49] <pvl1> how can i start an xserver on tty8
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> windows tends to crash so much for other reasons.. its often hard to point to a single reason.
[01:49] <heroes> dr_willis: whats do u mean?
[01:50] <irssi-mike> San1ty: I had the worst time with an install turned out to be the heat issue
[01:50] <Dr_Willis> heroes:  it depends on the phone and what you mean exactly by 'install ubuntu' theres vm's out there in the play store that let you do it easially.
[01:50] <San1ty> CPU runs at 30 °C
[01:51] <irssi-mike> San1ty: blew into the machine for an hour just to get things up and running.
[01:51] <San1ty> bleh the hdd tool I downloaded
[01:51] <San1ty> says my HDD is ok
[01:51] <heroes> must to i have ubuntu applications?
[01:51] <San1ty> but my windows install is completely borked
[01:51] <irssi-mike> San1ty: did you run badblocks
[01:51] <San1ty> dunno what it does
[01:51] <San1ty> it's a disk self test utility
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> heroes:  theres various 'install linux/ubuntu/whatever' apps on the android market that give you a ubuntu session in a vnc session inside android.
[01:52] <irssi-mike> maybe a virus in the master boot
[01:53] <jhile> is it better to use the free nouveau drivers or the proprietary nvidia drivers =?
[01:54] <smgordon> jhile : worked for me  have an nvidia 9800gt that works just fine
[01:54] <irssi-mike> jhile: i've got CUDA and nvidia, i could look around for that link i used hold on
[01:54] <jhile> so it is better using the actual drivers?
[01:56] <San1ty> bleh the HDD seems to be fine
[01:56] <San1ty> wtf is wrong with this windows 8 install then :s
[01:56] <jhile> does your computer support windows 8?
[01:57] <jhile> may sound stupid but samsung screwed everyone who purchased a computer before the day of win 8 release
[01:57] <smgordon> windows 8 is screwy dumped it for ubuntu
[01:57] <jhile> win 8 does suck and i went back to win 7 partition
[01:57] <jhile> besides the fact that 50% of my drivers didnt work because of samsung
[01:57] <San1ty> it's a desktop custom hardware
[01:58] <San1ty> so should be fine therre
[01:58] <San1ty> I'm really experiencing the strangest things ever
[01:58] <San1ty> never had this happen to me before
[01:58] <San1ty> I have win 8 on my main desktop
[01:58] <jhile> id check the actual hardware man, im telling you my i5 system worked awful with win 8
[01:58] <San1ty> no issues everything works
[01:58] <San1ty> bios has text on box (for WIN 8)
[01:59] <irssi-mike> jhile: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/522699/cuda-setup-and-installation/installing-cuda-on-ubuntu/
[01:59] <jhile> wireless kept disconnecting, nvidia kept crashing etc
[01:59] <jhile> going to check into that now thank oyu
[01:59] <San1ty> also
[01:59] <San1ty> why are the ATI drivers
[01:59] <San1ty> in linux so horirble
[01:59] <San1ty> :(
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> San1ty:  ask ati/amd?
[02:00] <San1ty> yeah I know
[02:00] <irssi-mike> San1ty: did you install windows first
[02:00] <San1ty> it's their fault
[02:00] <San1ty> installed win 7 first
[02:00] <San1ty> then ubuntu
[02:00] <San1ty> then win 8
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> im assuming you mean the 'fglrx' drivers.
[02:00] <FloodBot1> San1ty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <jhile> if i were to guess its because intel is destroying the market right now especially in laptops
[02:00] <jhile> intel hd graphics / nvidia are all  i see anymore
[02:00] <irssi-mike> San1ty: i don't remember the reason for it but i remember someone telling me that windows had to be first
[02:00] <joubin> Has anyone tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server ?
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> Can we stick to support and not opinions on stuff
[02:01] <jhile> if you install windows after ubuntu usually the grub gets removed and such
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> joubin:  ive used the apt-cacher-ng server in the past. it worked very well for my home lan.
[02:02] <joubin> Ok.
[02:02] <jowang> ping localhost
[02:02] <joubin> Ill look at that too
[02:02] <jowang> good
[02:02] <Kurogane> anyone knows the cause of this problem? http://pastebin.com/10HEv9eX
[02:02] <pvl1> i accidentally made uck crash... does that mean i have to start over?
[02:03] <San1ty> I'm probably going to install ubuntu on the hdd tomorrow
[02:03] <San1ty> and go from there
[02:03] <San1ty> ubuntu was performing pretty slowly when compared with windows tho (celeron "ivy bridge" cpu)
[02:03] <San1ty> I was a bit surprised that ubuntu felt laggy
[02:03] <San1ty> and windows was fast on that lowend HW
[02:05] <pvl1> answered my own q
[02:05] <jhile> irssi-mike, hey is that guide better to follow than the guide on help.ubuntu?
[02:05] <jhile> irssi-mike, the one on the help.ubuntu is saying i should install the nvidia driver first than cuda
[02:06] <irssi-mike> irssi-mike: when you use the cuda install it will prompt you to install nvidia, just say no and install the latest drivers first
[02:06] <irssi-mike> oops i meant jhile
[02:07] <jhile> irssi-mike, so it is better to follow the nvidia site guide and stop the gui environment and such?
[02:08] <irssi-mike> jhile: to be perfectly honest i used this http://sn0v.wordpress.com/2012/12/07/installing-cuda-5-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[02:08] <irssi-mike> jhile: but i felt like the information was more to the point at the first link
[02:09] <shahan> hey guys just making sure
[02:09] <shahan> using the update manager to upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10
[02:09] <shahan> i keep all personal files right?
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> its always a good idea to have backups.
[02:09] <jhile> irssi-mike, sweet ill check them all and see what make most sense to me. nvidia 310m is a card that supports cuda so thats a good first step lol
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> a release upgrade should not touch the users files
[02:10] <shahan> ah crap, well even it goes wrong it's only a couple of venture bros. epsiodes lol, on this partition
[02:11] <shahan> does ubuntu have like a create a restore point thing?
[02:11] <shahan> or backup
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Backups yes restore no
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> !backup | shahan
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> shahan, You can also make clones, I use clonezilla
[02:13] <cfarrier> any  help for a brand new user?
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  its often faster to just do a clean install then do a upgrade
[02:13] <Dr_Willis> !manual | cfarrier
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> !1 on fresh installs
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> +1 lol
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> we love you just the way you are ubottu
[02:14] <shahan> so... wipe everything and install?
[02:14] <shahan> where do you guys keep most of your files on a external?
[02:14] <Random832> home directory, easy to make backups of
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Yes here I have 4 OS.
[02:14] <cfarrier> I'm appreciated, I'm trying to burn an ISO. i'm in 12.04 - tried to give myself root access, using sudo - so that burning a dvd was "ok" but nothing seems to be working
[02:15] <curatrix> cfarrier: unetbootin?
[02:15] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  4 operating systems?
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, sudo should  not be needed, what is the disc
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Yeah.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Err the ISO rather.
[02:17] <cfarrier> whachu mean wilee nilee
[02:17] <cfarrier> you think the iso is bunk?\
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, "I'm trying to burn an ISO" what is it?
[02:17] <shahan> so i just used the update manager..  is that default a clean install?
[02:17] <cfarrier> win7
[02:17] <cfarrier> it doesn't matter what i'm burning though
[02:17] <curatrix> cfarrier: Is it a win7 iso?
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Use brasero burn as an image no sudo
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  no.. that would update your system.. whch is differnt then a release upgrade...
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  so what are you doing exactly?
[02:18] <cfarrier> well, i'm 2 hours north of trying that
[02:18] <shahan> Dr_Willis:  it says im installing 12.10 through the update manager
[02:18] <cfarrier> furious ISO mount and k3b
[02:18] <cfarrier> don't work
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Easily put on a usb as well.
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> a normal user can burn iso files in ubuntu by default
[02:18] <cfarrier> ah,
[02:18] <cfarrier> well, dr.willis
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> theres even some 'right click on the iso - select burn to disk' add ons.
[02:18] <cfarrier> that's just not the case
[02:19] <curatrix> cfarrier: Use unetbootin and run as root          sudo unetbootin                   this wont work with a winblows ISO though.
[02:19] <cfarrier> I agree, the option is there, but in practice...
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> cfarrier:  my users have not had issues burning ISO files in the past.  dont hunderds of them as a user. no root needed
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> curatrix, using the term winblows is not good etiquette here.
[02:20] <shahan> 3 hours and 31 minutes??!  to upgrade... fuck me!  can i cancel now and start later without waiting for packages?
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> !language | shahan
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  if its still downloading - yes..
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  i mentioned how its often faster to do a clean install.
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> starting later - will still want to download the packages.  theres also a chance  the upgrade manager has made changes to the system allready so stoping the upgrade may break things
[02:21] <shahan> Dr_Willis:  ahh so with that you'd make a bootable usb with or w.e. with 12.10 and install that way?  choosing the partition again and everything?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  12.10? i would use 13.04 if you want the latest
[02:21] <shahan> yeah i'm at the start upgrade window
[02:22] <newhoa> I'
[02:22] <newhoa> oops...
[02:22] <shahan> Dr_Willis:  oh yeeeah... i have 12.04 currently, so i have to upgrade to 12.10 THEN 13.04  OR  download the inso for 13.04 and clean install, cuz
[02:22] <shahan> it's wayy faster..  lol
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  you do LTS to LTS.. OR each step in between
[02:22] <shahan> *ISO
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> if you want 13.04 - it would definatlybe faster to do a clean install, if you dont need to keep any customizations
[02:23] <genial3> Can I mount a drive so that everyone can write to it, and every new file/dir that gets written to the drive gets the same user:group, no matter the user who wrote it?
[02:23] <newhoa> I'm using gmusicbrowser and while it's great, it doesn't seem to transfer files to mass storage devices. Is there a program that does just that - transfer music from PC to MSC device?
[02:24] <curatrix> genial3: Yes
[02:24] <shahan> Dr_Willis: clean install being from an ISO right? and having to get rid of my current ubuntu 12.04 partition and make a new one for 13.04?
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  the installer can reformat the partions
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> boot the cd.. start installer.. tellit to  replace existing ubuntu
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> if you have a seperate /home/ that makes it easier.  your home files wont get trashed then.
[02:25] <genial3> curatrix: Fantastic, would you happen to know which param I should use? Have been trying out uid=nobody,gid=nogroup,umask=0 but can still only write as root
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> genial3:  what filesystem is the drive using?
[02:25] <genial3> Dr_Willis: ext4
[02:25] <shahan> i think i do... how do i know if i have a separate /home/?
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> genial3:  i dont think you just override the uid/gid of a ext2/3/4 via fstab options
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  check output of 'mount'
[02:25] <curatrix> genial3: Make a new user group and make all users members of that group ....then set permissions for the drive so that it is owned by the group
[02:26] <genial3> Alright, I'll give that a shot! :)
[02:27] <shahan> Dr_Willis:  "gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/shahan/.gvfs type"
[02:27] <shahan> that's a line from what came up
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  thats not /home/
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> thats your .gvfs in your home
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  if you dont see an entry in fstab or mount outut for /home/ then im guessing you DONT have  a seperate home partition
[02:30] <shahan> Dr_Willis: so i have Eclipse installed on ubuntu right now, anyway i could keep that going to 13.04 whilst doing a clean install?
[02:30] <cfarrier> does anyone have a min. to help a new ubuntu user? I'm having troubles doing basic stuff like burn a disk
[02:31] <cfarrier> when getting root access and sudo dont seem to work, perplexing
[02:31] <curatrix> cfarrier: Is it a linux iso?
[02:31] <cfarrier> no
[02:31] <cfarrier> oh, hi curatrix
[02:31] <curatrix> ;)
[02:31] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  easier to just reinstall it.
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  save your imporantant files to ubuntu one is what i normally do.
[02:32] <qin> cfarrier: why would you want root to burn?
[02:32] <cfarrier> I want to dual boot win8, i'm not tied to an os at the moment, got a brand new pc, been a mac'er
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Windows discs have a lock on them, however brasero run as a regular user should burn it as an image to a dvd, if you want it on a usb I can tell you how easily.
[02:32] <cfarrier> i don't have a need to qin, but k3b and furious both give me permission errors when i try an burn
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> xfburn is rather straight forward burning app.
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Where did you get the ISO?
[02:33] <cfarrier> thanks wilee, but i'm its not happening as a reg user, its just errors
[02:33] <Dr_Willis> k3b is like the all-in-one cd/dvd/burn/other stuff app. ;)
[02:33] <cfarrier> it looks great, i agree
[02:34] <veryhappy> hey guys i'm back for one more question: kdm is getting me started, i used to use this nettop that i have as a desktop pc and server pc but now i want to disable kdm at boot, how can i do this? update-rc.d -f kdm remove doesn't work at all.
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Do to some sort of user error, but well good luck.
[02:34] <cfarrier> which is why its frusterating
[02:34] <shahan> Dr_Willis: thanks for answering all my q's man, so let me get this straight, most people, when upgrading...  or while using ubuntu between upgrades don't  keep files on the same disk as ubuntu?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> shahan, A smart user will have backups off the HD.
[02:34] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  its handled by upstart i imagine these days. look in /etc/init/ for a kdm.conf file and rename it to be like kdm.dontrun or use the 'text' boot option if you dont want ANY  *dm to run
[02:35] <qin> veryhappy: Do you want to boot to tty or lightdm?
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> most hard to say unmeasurable
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  my /home/ partion is on its  own seperate 3TB hard drive. ;)
[02:35] <shahan> wilee-nilee: on the cloud
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  that makes it much easier for me to install a new ubuntu
[02:35] <veryhappy> qin: plain text mode
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> shahan, I have mine on externals
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> !text | veryhappy
[02:35] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  that makes it easy ;)
[02:35] <veryhappy> ok
[02:36] <shahan> Dr_Willis: so but the stuff in your home is just files but no like programs... right? you just re download the packages?
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> alter the /etc/default/grub and change the 'quiet splash' to be like 'noquiet nosplash nofb text'  and rerun update-grub and it will be the default
[02:36] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  nice, because i have a bigg ass external
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  since they are all updated with each new reelase. it dosent make much sence to 'save' the old installed apps.
[02:37] <shahan> Dr_Willis:  ahhh i noticed that, man i'm learning so much right now
[02:37] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: i'm a little confused now, does noquiet and nosplash like nofb also exist?
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Cool, I also make Installed package list to just run on a fresh install, with saved PPA's and keys, so  fresh install is like an hour at the max.
[02:38] <shahan> Dr_Willis:  but your /home/ is mostly just files, right? like pictures music videos and w/e exe software?
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> noquiet and nosplash = hides the fancy boot gfx so you see the text messages, nofb disables the framebuffer console so you dont get a fancy highres console
[02:38] <veryhappy> ok
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  my own personal software canbe in my home.
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  some of those options may be outdated.  i used them on and off for years.
[02:38] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: haha Dr_Willis kde starts right through
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> shahan, And a favourite package install list to just run.
[02:38] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  woha woha, what? how do that? does it show up on the installer?  so like a list of preferred software to carry from installation to installation?
[02:39] <shahan> *do you do
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  i just make a script that installs what i normally alwyas want.
[02:39] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: so text as a parameter doesn't work at all, sorry man
[02:39] <Dr_Willis>  'sudo apt-get install whatever'
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  'text' should definatly work and keep gdm/kdm/lightdm from loading
[02:39] <Neozonz> how do i automatically add a script to be run after login?
[02:39] <qin> veryhappy: it does. maybe you did not ctrl-x ?
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> the other options are optional.
[02:40] <veryhappy> qin: i did... i know how to use the editor btw.
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  put it in ~/.config/autostart/ is one way
[02:40] <qin> Dr_Willis: with nofb its like '90 again ;)
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Yeah you can have a list of the extras you use and make one of the installs with "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages"  this can be reloaded to install, depends though on the previous install with a release change for the install list.
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> qin:  yep. i still see some framebuffer issues every so often
[02:41] <lduros> is the ubuntu forum going to come back up at some point?
[02:41] <lduros> it's been down for days now...
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Ubuntu loads from repos, so if you add extra repos you want to be sure a new release supports it, and you can save thise and the keys.
[02:42] <Halyard> lduros: 2013-07-26: the forums are up running again and being tested privately by Forum administrators.
[02:42] <Alegreya> lol the forum is still down?
[02:42] <lduros> Halyard: so hopefully soon
[02:42] <lduros> yeh it's still down
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Err that an extra repo like a PPa supports the new install that is.
[02:42] <Neozonz> Dr_Willis, put the script in there?
[02:42] <SunStar> im playing around with a cms script and it needs an ftp account with access to /var/www/xyz   how do i do this? im seeing stuff on how to install vsftp and proftpd, but nothing about how to create a new user and give it access to a subdirectory in my webroot
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> Alegreya, Back up being tested by staff as of now.
[02:43] <vee_> hey guys, every time i try to launch wicd-gtk, it fails saying it was unable to connect to dbus. but dbus has already been started
[02:43] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  i see, basically compatibility?
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  put it in ~/.config/autostart/  .. yes
[02:43] <Alegreya> grat e ned new words for the cracking dictionary
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  or a link to it. or a executable file. or a .desktop file
[02:44] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: renaming to kdm.dontrun did the trick, is there any command how i can end kdm when i started it over command...?
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  time to read up on upstart ant the 'service' command
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> sudo service servicename stop
[02:45] <newhoa> gtkpod looks interesting... anything like it for MSC/mass storage devices?
[02:45] <veryhappy> haha! didn't work!
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> but since you renamed the kdm.conf  you cant start it that way. ;P
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> !upstart
[02:45] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: it didn't work that way i just can make start kdm but not stop
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  how are you starting kdm?
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Yeah as far as using previous install with a release upgrade, some 3rd party repos have support limitations. Do you know what I mean with PPA?
[02:45] <kostkon> vee_, there should be 2 dbus instances running on your system, the system bus and the session one, i assume wicd tries to connect to the system one.
[02:46] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: ~# kdm
[02:46] <kostkon> damn
[02:46] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  yeah basically programs right? personal package archs?  essentially like... google-chromes comes through this and firefox and eclipse and ccsm?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  then you did NOT start the kdm 'service' you ran kdm. kill it as you would any other app via kill, or other ways
[02:46] <veryhappy> ok
[02:46] <Neozonz> Dr_Willis, i put the .sh script in there made it executable
[02:47] <Neozonz> and it doesnt run..
[02:47] <wilee-nilee> !PPA | shahan  these
[02:47] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: wouldn't there be a way to start and stop kdm as a service but don't make it run on boot?
[02:47] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: that's actually just what i want, keep kdm but don't start it
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  have the script do somthing so you can see if its running, or failing. (make it log somewherem or use the osd-notify command, and it may need to sleep for a few moments to get ran after the desktop is ready.
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  what is the script doing exactly/
[02:48] <qin> veryhappy: sudo service kdm start | stop
[02:48] <Neozonz> running another application
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  the upstart docs mention several ways to 'disable' a service. you may want to look into the override files
[02:48] <Neozonz> calling another executable after setting some env variables
[02:48] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  ohhh so stuf like restricted extras?
[02:48] <veryhappy> qin: if you don't get what i want, please don't write something at all. ok? for next time, thanks
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Restricted extras are in the repos supplied in a install PPA's are 3rd party you add them.
[02:49] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: but why keeps it booting into kdm though i entered update-rc.d -f kdm remove?
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  its possible the  shell enviroment is not what you are expecting for the script.   be sure to use full paths, and  have it start with #!/bin/bash if its using bash features
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:   thats the OLD sysv way.. ubuntu uses upstart  now.
[02:49] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: there we go... now i got it
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> upstart has been used now for some years. ;)
[02:50] <kostkon> since around 2009 i think
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> upstart does have a sysv 'emulation' type setup. so many people dont notice the switch
[02:50] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: i just don't seem to get this /etc/init crap "start on ..[]) and stop"
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> veryhappy:  read the 'upstart cookbook' web site. its very well done docs on the topic
[02:50] <qin> veryhappy: You want to start kdm as service after booting into text mode: sudo service kdm start; to stop kdm and drop bask to text mode: sudo service kdm stop; did I got it wrong somewhere?
[02:51] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: ok i think that's better...
[02:51] <bouma> hello, i did a mv from ~/videos to a flashdrive, and the flash ran out of space. there are files with the wrong size and files that are zero. how do i know which to remove?
[02:51] <veryhappy> qin: the problem was you didn't get at all that i know how to use the old sysv type and stuff, i just don't know how to manage the /etc/init scripts.
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Basically you want to have access to what ever repo you pulled a install from originally, all have gpg keys generally, so if you save lists you want to be sure you have those extra repos loaded and the keys set.
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> things are really going to get fun whenever we switch ubuntu over to that systemd (i think thats the name) system.. ;P
[02:52] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: wasn't systemd outdated or only used on arch linux?
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> other disrtos are adopting it.  i think arch was just one of the first.
[02:53] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: nice.
[02:53] <veryhappy> can you give me the link to the upstart cookbook please?
[02:53] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  okay i see, but since i haven't been using 12.04 and ubuntu in general for that long... i may just clean install 13.04 and set a list on software center and let that go overnight lol
[02:54] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: if i still don't get it i'm gonna call for a pizza and switch off my damn pc.
[02:54] <veryhappy> :D
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> shahan, I would not do unattended installs my self, but thats me.
[02:54] <dangerousice> Hey guys, so I just did a huge noob mistake. I ran the command, find -iname "*.png" -exec mv -v {} ~/Downloads \; and of course it started to move all my png's on my system. I'm taking a chance by asking if there's a way to reverse it even though I'm 99% sure the answer is no?
[02:54] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: the upstart not systemd?
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+cookbook&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[02:54] <veryhappy> ok
[02:54] <veryhappy> thanks
[02:54] <qin> veryhappy: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems
[02:54] <jhile> hey i installed the nvidia driver 304, is that more stable than the 319 (tested)
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> first google hit for 'ubuntu cookbook' ;P
[02:55] <shahan> wilee-nilee: i see your point i'll just take anything of value off the disk partition then.
[02:55] <shahan> wilee-nilee:  thanks  alot man and Dr_Willis ! :D
[02:55] <veryhappy> thanks Dr_Willis
[02:55] <Neozonz> still not working...
[02:55] <veryhappy> qin: what shall i start with ... Comparison ...
[02:55] <Neozonz> why is this so complicated, i just want t run an SH script upon login
[02:55] <Neozonz> >_<
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> shahan, I use the terminal and I install synaptic, synaptic has a history in case you want to remove stuff and need a histiry, there are other histories on board as well.
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> shahan, Good luck.
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  i have several scripts in my autostart dir that run when i loging to my X desktop
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  they are very simple scripts however.
[02:57] <shahan> Will|: ah yeah i have synaptic, i've been looking for something like windows 7's control panel and install/uninstall programs
[02:57] <shahan> still have wrap my head around this 'packages' thing xD
[02:57] <Neozonz> what is the exec line u use in autostart?
[02:57] <shahan> wilee-nilee: *
[02:57] <shahan> *to wrap
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  most of them i do start with 'sleep 20' so they always start after the desktop is up and running and settled down.
[02:57] <Neozonz> is it bash /path/scriptname.sh ?
[02:57] <veryhappy> Dr_Willis: ok thanks, Dr_Willis i'm gonna try it out now, take care.
[02:57] <Neozonz> or is it /path/scriptname.sh
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> shahan, You will figure it out. ;)
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  if its ececutable you dont need the bash part. if the first line is correct.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz: example here.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis>  pastebinit start_conky
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5920429/
[02:58] <pvl1> how do i stop apt from install recommended by default
[02:58] <Neozonz> ok added a sleep line
[02:58] <Neozonz> this better work
[02:58] <Neozonz> >_<
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Why would you need to.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  or you could give details like posting the script...
[02:59] <Neozonz> its very simple
[02:59] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: trying to make a minimalist custom livecd
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Ah, I forgot.
[02:59] <pvl1> lol
[02:59] <pvl1> :)
[02:59] <Neozonz> #!/bin/bash
[02:59] <Neozonz> sleep 20
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> I'm lucky to remember my own name
[03:00] <Neozonz> export GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT=100
[03:00] <pvl1> i sometimes remember my birthday, so its ok i can relate
[03:00] <Neozonz> /home/username/cgminer/cgminer
[03:01] <shahan> how much space does Ubuntu One give you?
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  5gb
[03:01] <curatrix> shahan: four cubic meters ;)
[03:01] <flick> what are some nice 3D applications that i can show off. i remember in old days there were some stunning screensavers...
[03:02] <flick> games, demos
[03:02] <qin> flick: fgfs (flight gear)
[03:02] <shahan> look google wants to give us free cloudspace, so does ubuntu, why can't we just get one amalgamate all the free cloudpsace one user can get.
[03:02] <curatrix> Urban Terror is pretty good
[03:03] <Alegreya> TF2
[03:03] <qin> CS1.6
[03:04] <Alegreya> hahah
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> Neozonz:  you can toss in a 'notify-send "Starting your thing in 20 sec"' in your script to be sure its actually getting launched.
[03:04] <chalcedony`> *hugs* Dr_Willis :)
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> shahan:  i think theres some fuse tools for that. ;)
[03:04] <cfarrier> hmm can't see any files in UNetbootin
[03:04] <cfarrier> anyone know why?
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> !find bb
[03:04] <chalcedony`> how long should it take to install ubuntu 13.04 from a cd? (it seems to be taking forever!)
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> flick:  check out 'bb'
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> chalcedony`, depends on your download speed and if you tick updates,
[03:06] <Dr_Willis> chalcedony`:  since its been out for a bit. theres more updates for it to download  at teh start. so its a trade off. :) you want to be up to date when you are installed..or wait later
[03:06] <cfarrier> I failed burning a win8 ISO to a dvd...so i'm trying to get a USB working
[03:06] <cfarrier> got Unetbootin, but it doesn't see any of my files, what gives
[03:07] <flick> checking out - installed - running - gibberish coming on screen
[03:07] <chalcedony`> he started at 10:35, it's 11:05, he did not tick install updates
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> you can 'dd' the windows8 iso straight to usb i thought.  you may want to check in #windows to verify that
[03:07] <cfarrier> dd?
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, is easy if you want help, I never use unetbootin on a MS iso.
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> !dd
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> usb*
[03:07] <flick> oh huh. strange patterns - how cool is that
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> dd = a fancy tool to image  data.
[03:07] <cfarrier> willee- love some help
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> flick:  keep watching ;P
[03:07] <chalcedony`> er he's installing 13.04 alongside 12.04 LTS .. so that migh take longer
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, I format the usb as a ntfs with a bootflag and extract the iso using archive manager with a right click on the iso.
[03:09] <cfarrier> ok, i'll use Gparted. and give that a go
[03:09] <chalcedony`> Dr_Willis, is there some average time for that, to see if it's working?
[03:10] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Yeah just make it a ntfs and add the boot flag there then exstract to the usb with the archive manager.
[03:10] <Dr_Willis> chalcedony`:  never really noticed.   I tend to install when first released. so  theres not a lot of updates
[03:10] <chalcedony`> he didn't click  updates
[03:11] <chalcedony`> i think we want to see if it works, then do that
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> chalcedony`:  then about 20-30 min is a normal install for me with no updates, from a usb i recall..
[03:11] <cfarrier> how do i add the boot flag
[03:11] <chalcedony`> from DVD
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> gparted has a manage flags menu item cfarrier
[03:11] <wilee-nilee> cfarrier, Goarted has a right click add flags to partitikons
[03:11] <StarOnD> Hello I want to upgrade my libboost to 1.53 from 1.49, how can I do this ?
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> bad spelling sorry
[03:12] <pvl1> so uh anyone know how to disable recommended install within apt
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> StarOnD, Looks like a downgrade.
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> doh missed the wording my bad
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> libboost1.53  is the current here it seems
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> StarOnD, You have a source to the upgrade?
[03:13] <flick> bb is not playing any sound though it seemed it said it would when it started
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> !info libboost
[03:13] <flick> i need to check if my sound system is working
[03:13] <StarOnD> I mean to go rom 1.49 to 1.53, this packages > libboost-all-dev
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> seems the repos have both versions..  if im looking at the info correctly
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> libboost1.49-all-dev  libboost1.53-all-dev
[03:14] <x_> Hi all. Does anyone know how to indent a block of code in gedit?
[03:15] <curatrix> x_: ins key (insert)
[03:15] <curatrix> x_: Then space
[03:16] <x_> curatrix: I did tab after but that worked too
[03:16] <x_> curatrix: Thanks!!!
[03:16] <curatrix> ;)
[03:23] <EmmEight> whats the word with the forums?
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> EmmEight, Same here as the splash.
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> no exact date of opening again, but up and running being tested by staff.
[03:24] <EmmEight> Any word on who the attacker is?
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> EmmEight, All that info is linked to the splash
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> EmmEight, #ubuntuforums would be the place to discuss. ;)
[03:27] <qin> insync vs grive? or someone had mercy and there is proper client.
[03:37] <jpmh> I am running rsync to backup = on my laptop I have my home directory encrypted and the direvtory where this is happening is beneath my home. On my office system I do not encrypt home but use encfs for things I want encryped.  It appears that the rsync is MANY times faster with encfs than the encrypted home dir.  Does this make sense?
[03:38] <j0elo> join #ubuntu
[03:40] <StarOnD> how can I add a directory to the PYTHONPATH?
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> export PYTHONPATH=$PYTHONPATH:/path/to/new/dir     perhaps? thats how it works for the bash paths.
[03:46] <shasten> hello
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> hmm
[03:51] <shasten> So, I am using Ubuntu Ultimate Edition, and I like it but it seems to be a little buggy, and I am not sure why.
[03:52] <shasten> I was wondering if maybe on of you fine gents knew anything about Ultimate Edition.
[03:52] <Pici> !ultimate
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> id say avoide it and stickto normal ubuntu shasten
[04:01] <tdrusk> I need help getting my fn keys to work. Currently, it seems only sound works. Toshiba Satellite. lspci http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=54nQm5fJ
[04:08] <CovertOps> hello i am having an issue with ubuntu 13.04 and the HDMI output. video and sound quality are very poor.
[04:09] <CovertOps> is anyone familiar with the intel-linux-graphics-installer?
[04:12] <harder> hello
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> CovertOps, this, http://imagebin.org/265777
[04:13] <CovertOps> yeah
[04:13] <CovertOps> it keeps failing
[04:13] <CovertOps> something wicked happened when trying to resolve ppa.launchpad.net
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> CovertOps, Hmm, well when I ran mine on a toshiba a205 s5818 I had no problems, not sure here to be honest, what are the errors?
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> CovertOps, Might try checking your sources list and maybe a repo change is needed.
[04:15] <wilee-nilee> CovertOps, How does a standard update go?
[04:16] <harder> alguien habla español?
[04:16] <CovertOps> usually goes through fine
[04:17] <CovertOps> if i do apt-get update --fix-missing i get the same error as the installer
[04:17] <CovertOps> actually video appears to work fine now
[04:17] <CovertOps> not sure what fixed it
[04:18] <iLogical> Should I be concerned that I have a ssh-process running, which I can't kill using sudo killall -9 ssh-agent?
[04:18] <iLogical> I don't remember ever installing this daemon
[04:19] <DWSR> iLogical: It's installed as part of the openssh package.
[04:20] <DWSR> iLogical: And it's not really anything to worry about normally, though the fact that you can't kill it is somewhat odd.
[04:20] <DWSR> iLogical: It's used as a keyring for ssh identities.
[04:20] <iLogical> I can't kill it with the said command
[04:20] <iLogical> :/
[04:21] <DWSR> did you try killing it by pid?
[04:21] <iLogical> I tried to kill, stop and end it using system monitor
[04:22] <iLogical> but nothing
[04:23] <guzzlefry> Is ssh-agent something that would would restart once killed?
[04:24] <guzzlefry> err
[04:24] <guzzlefry> Is ssh-agent something that would restart once killed?
[04:24] <IdleOne> probably not
[04:25] <guzzlefry> iLogical: ps -eaf | grep ssh
[04:25] <guzzlefry> Does it show it as <defunct>?
[04:26] <iLogical> guzzlefry, yes,  user      5548  5493  0 Jul27 ?        00:00:00 [ssh-agent] <defunct> /n   user     15887 15772  0 01:25 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto ssh
[04:27] <guzzlefry> iLogical: yes, that's what happens when I try to kill it as well. So that's normal.
[04:27] <guzzlefry> As to why, I'm not sure.
[04:28] <iLogical> ok thanks
[04:29] <guzzlefry> iLogical: Logging out then back in should fix it.
[04:29] <guzzlefry> It's process is under gnome-session.
[04:29] <guzzlefry> iLogical: run pstree to check that out.
[04:32] <iLogical> guzzlefry, kthanks brb
[04:34] <vlt000> Hello All!
[04:35] <hewhomust> hi vlt
[04:35] <vlt000> I am currently running lubuntu 12.04 and I regularly upgrade to the latest kernel --- I am currently running, 3.10.0-031000rc7-generic. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with pointing to the latest repo's, saucy at this time, and running an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade with success?
[04:36] <hewhomust> you want to get the latest kernel?
[04:36] <holstein> vlt000: that is not the latest 12.04 kernel
[04:36] <vlt000> I know.
[04:36] <vlt000> I run mainline kernels as it usually fixes things.
[04:36] <cmck193> Need some assistance.  I installed xubuntu 13.04 and don't have sound.  I have a HDA intel hd
[04:37] <holstein> !sound | cmck193
[04:37] <vlt000> I am running 3.10rc7 on 12.04 as it fixed a few things.
[04:37] <holstein> vlt000: it can also break things.. and its not supported
[04:37] <holstein> vlt000: if its working for you, and solving an issue, thats great
[04:37] <excelsiora> How do you invert colors in unity?
[04:37] <hewhomust> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ this has all the kernels just pick one and download the kernel headers image then put them into a folder and run dpkg on them
[04:38] <vlt000> I thought about pointing to the latest repo's ... I was wondering if anyone had any experience with it.
[04:38] <vlt000> So, instead of running a distro upgrade ... I wanted to just point to the latest repo's to get more recent software versions.
[04:38] <hewhomust> oh i thought you just wanted kernel
[04:39] <hewhomust> well you can always get ppas
[04:39] <vlt000> Yeah, I have the kernel part down
[04:39] <holstein> vlt000: you dont.. if you want 13.04, you should install, or upgrade to it.. if you want 13.10
[04:39] <hewhomust> sorry lol
[04:39] <holstein> !13.10
[04:39] <holstein> vlt000: if you want to piece together something on your own, thats fine as well, but you will be on your own with it
[04:40] <vlt000> I have modified a few things which is why I don't really want to run an upgrade on it.
[04:40] <vlt000> I really should just make my own distro...
[04:40] <excelsiora> So is it possible to invert colors in unity? Or was that only before Unity? My screen is too bright and my dimmer doesn't work.
[04:40] <hewhomust> well just go into, /etc/apt/sources.list and just add raring instead of precise
[04:40] <vlt000> hewhomust --- that is what I was thinking...
[04:40] <hewhomust> then run update and upgrade
[04:41] <vlt000> So, will that replace any changes under /etc/ or /usr/share that I have made?
[04:41] <holstein> vlt000: you should have backups
[04:41] <vlt000> Yeah, I did a full backup yesterday...
[04:42] <vlt000> Well, I think I shouldn't undertake this tonight...  I will be back...
[04:46] <flick> okay
[04:46] <nadorman> nk
[04:46] <nadorman> hi
[05:08] <chalcedony`> my husband is getting the same error with 13.04
[05:09] <chalcedony`> you have no idea how frustrated he is
[05:09] <chalcedony`> can it be hardware related?
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> chalcedony`: can you please explain whats happening exactly?
[05:13] <chalcedony`> lotuspsychje, i'll try, thanks so much for answering :)
[05:14] <chalcedony`> "verifying DMI Pool Data.. and then the eroror
[05:14] <chalcedony`> "the system is running in low graphics mode"
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> chalcedony`: does your computer have an older graphics card?
[05:15] <chalcedony`> over and over,  he downloaded 13.04, 3 hours, and then installed it with 12.04 .. another hour etc
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> chalcedony`: he upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04 and got the low graphics trouble?
[05:16] <chalcedony`> lotuspsychje, he had 12.04 working, we went away for a few days, came back and got that error
[05:17] <chalcedony`> he upgraded to 13.04
[05:17] <qubozik> Is firefox laggy for anyone else? Just switched back to it from Chrome a couple months ago. For some reason it seem slaggy on Ubuntu 13.04. Works fine when running Windows on the same machine. Same extensions etc. Anyone have lag issues?
[05:17] <chalcedony`> we went home and got another hard drive
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> chalcedony`: well sometimes it can help clean install 13.04
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> chalcedony`: you can also try holding shift at boot, enter grub and try the failsafeX from recoverymode
[05:18] <chalcedony`> lotuspsychje, it's a different hard drive and new cd install of 12.04 / 13.04
[05:19] <chalcedony`> darn cord. - got disconnected when i let him read that
 lotuspsychje, it's a different hard drive and new cd install of 12.04 / 13.04
[05:22] <chalcedony`> lotuspsychje, it's not letting him get to recovery mode
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> chalcedony`: howso?
[05:23] <chalcedony`> lotuspsychje, it starts to boot but the text is all squished up.. the it oges to Verifying dmi pool data ,purple screen and messed up text
[05:23] <chalcedony`> then the errors
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> chalcedony`: did you try hold shift at boot for entering grub?
[05:24] <chalcedony`> he's going to try it, moment
[05:26] <kyan> hi
[05:26] <kyan> if i install ubuntu on 32bit
[05:26] <kyan> will it see my 8gb ram?
[05:26] <chalcedony`> grr
[05:26] <Beatstreet> yes
[05:26] <chalcedony`> it's doing  memtest 86
[05:27] <kyan> sure?
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Kyan`: he just told you yes
[05:28] <Kyan`> kk
[05:28] <Kyan`> i'll go install it
[05:28] <Kyan`> thanx :D
[05:28] <Kyan`> bye
[05:37] <sonofzeus> Hey there
[05:37] <sonofzeus> When I try to write a iso file to a flash drive on ubuntu it says cannot create regular file permission denied.
[05:38] <nomicos> Hey guys. I use wvdial to connect through my USB modem, but the notification bar icon shows there's no connection. How do I fix that?
[05:39] <sonofzeus> anyone?
[05:44] <ubuntu76> hi all i needed help with this error on my graphics card
[05:44] <ubuntu76> X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)   Major opcode of failed request:  153 (GLX)   Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)   Serial number of failed request:  12   Current serial number in output stream:  12
[05:45] <ubuntu76> how would i fix this issue this is what i get when i type fglrxinfo
[05:46] <sonofzeus> Hey there
[05:46] <sonofzeus> Can anyone help me?
[05:47] <Equinox3> sonofzeus: whats the problem
[05:47] <ubuntu76> Hi can anyone help me with ati video issue
[05:47] <sonofzeus> When I try to cp an iso to my usb drive it says: cannot create regular file permission denied
[05:48] <ubuntu76> im trying to get at least open gl driver to show
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> sonofzeus, What ISO?
[05:48] <sonofzeus> debian iso
[05:48] <Equinox3> sonofzeus: are you sure the usb isn't locked or something
[05:48] <sonofzeus> the write protection is off
[05:48] <wilee-nilee> sonofzeus, debian I believe has a loader
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> or use unetbootin
[05:49] <sonofzeus> nah
[05:49] <Equinox3> are you trying to copy or use it as a live boot
[05:50] <wilee-nilee> sonofzeus, Two options, can you elaborate your goal here in the end.
[05:50] <sonofzeus> Im following this: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en
[05:50] <sonofzeus> cp debian.iso /dev/sdX
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> sonofzeus, What OS are you doing this in?
[05:51] <sonofzeus> ubuntu
[05:51] <sonofzeus> I want to put debian on a spare laptop
[05:51] <wilee-nilee> unetbootin would load it I would thin k
[05:52] <wilee-nilee> or the multisystem loader at pendrivelinux I know would I have used it on debian
[05:53] <Equinox3> sonofzeus: sdX refers to a drive like sd1, sd2. i think you're supposed to find the one for your flash drive
[05:53] <sonofzeus> Yeah i know that
[05:53] <sonofzeus> It still doesnt work anyways
[05:54] <Equinox3> ah
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> sdX is the usb without a partition
[05:54] <wilee-nilee> or the mbr if there is one
[05:55] <wilee-nilee> its just the usb
[05:55] <wilee-nilee> anyway good luck gotta go
[05:55] <Equinox3> tried copying anything else
[05:58] <BillyZane> hi, something strange is happening. I use Ubuntu 13.04, and i'm running gnome system monitor and xfce's task manager and both of them say that my CPU useage is fluctuating between 35% and 90%, but when i see the processes running and the amount each take, they both say 0% for all and 2% for one of them
[06:07] <smaug42_> BillyZane: try opening a terminal and running top
[06:07] <BillyZane> ok
[06:08] <BillyZane> damn it i knew it, boinc is running!!!
[06:08] <BillyZane> i thought boinc doesn't run unless i have the manager on
[06:08] <BillyZane> it's doing all this stuff in secret, wtf
[06:09] <smaug42_> BillyZane: can't help you there.  I've never ran boinc.  It's prob set to launch as a daemon... a service
[06:09] <BillyZane> yeah i believe so
[06:10] <BillyZane> thanks smaug42_
[06:10] <BillyZane> smaug42_++
[06:10] <smaug42_> BillyZane: this page explains the pref settings  http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Preferences
[06:11] <BillyZane> oh well, i installed it because i wanted to contribute to it
[06:11] <BillyZane> my PC is so fast, i wouldn't even notice a slow dow
[06:11] <BillyZane> down
[06:13] <aeon-ltd> BillyZane: 2-3 years from now your pc will just barely be midrange...
[06:13] <BillyZane> yup
[06:13] <aeon-ltd> truth is nothing is ever fast enough for long
[06:14] <BillyZane> that's a fact of moore's law
[06:14] <BillyZane> but, in those few years, i'll have a very fast PC and i'll be able to enjoy my computing experience
[06:15] <BillyZane> and eventually, i'll retire this PC as a secondary computer
[06:15] <BillyZane> like my old one serves me now
[06:16] <aeon-ltd> heh even with moore's law, it's a gamble on whether to jump on onto intel's tick or tock considering socket changes are now frequent
[06:16] <BillyZane> yeah it is
[06:16] <BillyZane> i have a 3770k
[06:17] <BillyZane> my old PC was a pentium 4 single core 3.2ghz that i used for over 7 years
[06:18] <krz> hi
[06:18] <aeon-ltd> hi
[06:18] <BillyZane> hi krz
[06:18] <BillyZane> aeon-ltd, are you familiar with qemu by any chance?
[06:19] <krz> i just plugged a usb stick. how so i start copying files into it via the terminal?
[06:19] <BillyZane> krz, are you trying to get in to the USB stick's directory?
[06:19] <BillyZane> i believe it's in /media
[06:19] <krz> BillyZane: yeap
[06:20] <krz> thanks BillyZane
[06:20] <BillyZane> you're welcome
[06:20] <BillyZane> ^ that was the first time i was able to help someone in here
[06:20] <BillyZane> i'm a huge n00b
[06:22] <gordonjcp> BillyZane: everyone is learning, all the time.  Unless they're dead, of course
[06:23] <BillyZane> true
[06:24] <aeon-ltd> BillyZane: qemu not really, but i've played around in vms a little
[06:25] <BillyZane> aeon-ltd, oh it's cool
[06:28] <Minniti> Hello have someone online
[06:29] <holstein> Minniti: ask if you have a question, and a volunteer may respond with an answer
[06:30] <Minniti> hello holstein, i'm new on linux, irc.. and i want know, what are the best channels
[06:30] <Minniti> you know:?
[06:30] <Minniti> man i'm totally newb sorry
[06:31] <Minniti> but i like that
[06:33] <Minniti> =/
[06:34] <zeest> Does Ubuntu keep a log of all commands executed in the terminal?
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> zeest: i dont think so mate
[06:35] <smaug42_> zeest: open a terminal... type history
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> oh it does
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> my bad
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> smaug42_: tnx for nice tip
[06:36] <smaug42_> it's stored in the file .bash_history in your home
[06:36] <zeest> Cool, it does go back far enough. I couldn't remember the command I used earlier that worked. Thank you smaug42_
[06:37] <zeest> Does it have a max size?
[06:37] <smaug42_> When you look through teh hsitory... see the numbers?  you want a specific command that's way back inyour history, note the numebr and type: !!67 (where 67 is teh number of the command you want to repeat)
[06:38] <zeest> That is also very nice.
[06:38] <smaug42_> zeest: it depends on what window environ, and what temrinal settings.  Most are default set to 1000 lines
[06:38] <zeest> Ah, ok
[06:38] <smaug42_> you can set to unlimited if you want
[06:38] <smaug42_> or none at all
[06:39] <zeest> I think 1,000 is plenty. In 3 days I am only to 850
[06:40] <timfrost> zeest: the maximum bash history size is configurable.  I have 'HISTSIZE=1000' and 'HISTFILESIZE=2000' in my bash environment.  The terminal scrollback is independent of those
[06:40] <smaug42_> wait, i'm thinking scrollback... I've never thought about lines in history....
[06:40] <smaug42_> ah, timfrost corrected me... thanks
[06:42] <roboto> for some reason using samba shares my network files have server icons. I'm trying to connect to Synology DSM 4.2 DS212j with ubuntu 13.04. I think I have tried almost everything...no change
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:45] <roboto> I would be laughing to if I didn't get <Failed to retrieve share list from server: Connection refused> everytime I tried to access a file on my NAS
[06:56] <_tockitj> anyone here from africa? I'm interested on how does commodity hardware behave in env temperatures between 30-50C
[06:56] <rubino123> how can I search for just executables from the command line?
[06:56] <Nimble> depends on if your device normally heats up to near it's max temperature or not
[06:57] <Nimble> if you have a desktop with your parts overclocked to the limit going into an environment like that will reduce the cooling ability of your heat sinks
[06:57] <Nimble> same goes for laptops
[06:58] <Nimble> most hardware runs well above 50 C under load
[06:58] <Nimble> but it becomes harder to cool it as the ambient temperature rises
[06:59] <_tockitj> Nimble, electronic parts usually declare temperatures under which whey will fail - but actually even slighter higher *environmental* temperature (like +10C) is going to reduce effectiveness of heat sinks dramatically
[07:00] <_tockitj> so in effect it will cause the heat to buildup on heat producers (like cpu/memory) and cause them to fail
[07:00] <_tockitj> I think that current hardware does not work very well in that part of the world
[07:01] <_tockitj> thing is - my hw is going to be subjected to similar conditions, so I was wondering if there is anyone here from hotter part of the world :)
[07:02] <timfrost> rubino123: if you are using the find command, the options '-type f -a -executable' should work (-executable will pick up directories as well as files)
[07:04] <timfrost> rubino123: try '-and' rather than '-a'
[07:04] <krz> anyone using linux mint?
[07:04] <tigrang> krz: i am
[07:04] <krz> thought  this would be the right channel to ask, since its based on ubuntu
[07:04] <tigrang> krz: mint has its own server/chanel
[07:05] <krz> tigrang: so mint uses packages from ubuntu right?
[07:05] <amarsaini> how to calibrate laptop screen on 12.04
[07:06] <amarsaini> my screen screen doesnot show correct white color
[07:06] <amarsaini> its dull
[07:06] <amarsaini> bit towards red
[07:06] <amarsaini> how to get correct white color
[07:06] <amarsaini> using ubuntu 12.04
[07:09] <shahan> guys just installed 13.04 and can't log into main account....  only just plays the drum sound..... but can log into guest
[07:10] <shahan> oh god and now i've switched to .. 'require no password to log in, automatic log in'  and now i can't authenticate anything...   When are forums going to be back up?
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> kevdog: unless something happened in the last 24hours, the answer is they will be up when they are up
[07:13] <kevdog> Figured that would be the response
[07:13] <kevdog> Nothing to enlightening then.
[07:14] <aeon-ltd> kevdog: if you need support, here and other linux forums can be useful until the forums are back up
[07:14] <kevdog> Hey anyone know of any extension, add on, app etc, that would stop the automatic saving of drafts in Gmail when composed in the browser?
[07:14] <wilee-nilee> kevdog, we know no more than the splash at the website reveals.
[07:14] <shahan> i can't log into my main account!
[07:14] <shahan> just does nothing and plays login sound
[07:14] <shahan> can login to guest though
[07:15] <shahan> please help
[07:15] <kevdog> I was hoping for you super top secret inside information from the crowd here ;)
[07:15] <timfrost> !patience |  shahan
[07:15] <shahan> JUSt installed 13.04
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> kevdog, Don't tell anyone but elvis returns for the next presidential race.
[07:16] <aeon-ltd> kevdog: 99% of the users here are just regular users
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> kevdog, I know you from the forums do I kid, ;)
[07:16] <wilee-nilee> so*
[07:17] <kevdog> Where is those damn one percenters?
[07:17] <aeon-ltd> afk
[07:17] <Zah_> do-release-upgrade fails to find any new releases running on Ubuntu 12.10.
[07:18] <Zah_> Does anyone have any debugging tips?
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, Go to software sources and set i to all releases and try the update-upgrade gui.
[07:18] <Zah_> The system is otherwise up to date. Both do-release-upgrade and do-release-upgrade -d have been tried with full root priviledges
[07:19] <Zah_> wilee-nilee: Does this have a CLI equivalent?
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> shahan, What desktop, have you tried logging in in a tty and then startx?
[07:19] <kevdog> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade or something like that?
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, I would have to look it up on the web I fresh install always, but know some don't set the all releases and have problems
[07:20] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, You have no X
[07:20] <timfrost> kevdog: try 'sudo do-release-upgrade'
[07:21] <kevdog> @timfrost: really?
[07:24] <Zah_> Zah_: Not readily available.
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, Here is various methods and info, might help. http://askubuntu.com/questions/279620/how-do-i-upgrade-from-12-10-to-13-04
[07:24] <Zah_> Damn tab.
[07:24] <timfrost> kevdog: oops. I was mis-targeting a message that I now see that wouldn't have helped Zah_
[07:26] <timfrost> Zah_: did you run the do-release-upgrade commands as root (or using sudo)?
[07:26] <Zah_> Yep
[07:28] <kevdog> night guys
[07:30] <timfrost> Zah_: can you !pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list?
[07:30] <Zah_> I'm tempted to just modify /etc/sources.list to use the repositories for 13.04
[07:30] <Zah_> I've heard this is not recommended, but never the reason why.
[07:32] <auronandace> Zah_: silly question: did you try sudo apt-get update before trying the do-release-upgrade ?
[07:32] <Zah_> Yep. Upgraded the kernel as well.
[07:32] <timfrost> Zah_: There are configuration settings that are not guaranteed to be correctly updated if you don't do the release upgrades correctly
[07:33] <Zah_> Do you know which settings they might be?
[07:33] <Zah_> Or where I can find more information
[07:33] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, Is this a server?
[07:35] <Zah_> It is not the server edition of Ubuntu.
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, What is is exactly?
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> it*
[07:36] <Zah_> according to `cat /etc/lsb-release`: Ubuntu 12.10 Quantal
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, Is this a release by another like mint ZorinOS or something?
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> or other ubuntu derivative
[07:39] <Zah_> Nope, plain-vanilla Ubuntu.
[07:39] <Zah_> Ah, this is hopeless. I'm going to hack /etc/apt/sources.list.
[07:39] <Zah_> I'll let you all know how it goes ;).
[07:39] <wilee-nilee> Zah_, Cool the others have additional repos is all.
[07:43] <hewhomust> could someone please tell me the offtopic channel name
[07:43] <llutz> !ot
[07:43] <hewhomust> thx
[07:47] <lemonsparrow> I am running ubuntu 10.10 is there a way I can upgrade to 12.04 without losing my data... ??
[07:48] <lemonsparrow> I mean not having to format and all that... just update via terminal or something like that /?
[07:50] <aeon-ltd> lemonsparrow: jumping ahead 3 version? how much data do you have?
[07:50] <lemonsparrow> aeon-ltd:quite a few... and github private keys and stuffs
[07:50] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: it would be very very tedious and not worth the effort, better to just backup what you need fresh install and then restore your data
[07:50] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: can I use windows installer ?
[07:51] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: wubi is getting abandoned
[07:52] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: oh,..so whats the best wat
[07:52] <lemonsparrow> way*
[07:52] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: I mean in my lappy now I have both windows and ubuntu 10.10 I had installed 10.10 using windows installer so how can I remove it now through windows and then install 12.04 LTS using windows ?
[07:52] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: installing like normal (from a cd/dvd or usb)
[07:53] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: dont have one
[07:53] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: you don't (unless you want to put it in a vm in windows)
[07:53] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: so what should I do now considering internet being my only source for ubuntu now ?
[07:54] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: get a usb stick
[07:54] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: isnt my machine 32 bit ?
[07:54] <lemonsparrow> $ file /sbin/init /sbin/init: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, stripped
[07:54] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: and ?
[07:54] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: and install via usb
[07:54] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: hmm good idea
[07:55] <auronandace> !usb | lemonsparrow
[07:55] <lemonsparrow> ubottu: but first I need information on how to remove existing ubuntu 10.10 from windows 7
[07:56] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: what you just posted only shows that that specific binary is 32bit
[07:56] <paul5> ciao a tutti
[07:56] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: use the add/remove programs thingy
[07:56] <paul5> !list
[07:56] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: All this is assuming that you didn't use Wubi, if you did all you have to do is go to Add/Remove programs or whatever it is in Windows 7, find Ubuntu, and uninstall it like you would any other program.
[07:57] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: be sure to backup what you need first
[07:57] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: ok but need to backup first
[07:57] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: and then I would use wubi again for 13.04
[07:57] <weizhao> how to create a web server in c? anyone give me a tutorial
[07:57] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: no
[07:57] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: hey which is the most stable version now ?>
[07:57] <aeon-ltd> weizhao: go to #c
[07:57] <aeon-ltd> weizhao: ##c
[07:57] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: wubi is being abandoned, don't use it period
[07:57] <weizhao> ##
[07:57] <weizhao> ##c
[07:58] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: 10.10 isnt any longer supported :(
[07:58] <robertzaccour> How do I set my sound to hdmi output? I don't see it in the settings.
[07:58] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: up to you what you want: 12.04 lts or 13.04 (current release)
[07:58] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: cant even install mysql
[07:58] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: and how to get ubuntu image into usb?
[07:59] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: the support terms are very clear, its your responsibility to have upgraded when you could have
[07:59] <auronandace> !usb | lemonsparrow
[07:59] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: it still asks me to upgrade to 11.04 in update manager
[08:00] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: but then when I try to do so it says network issue or something and fails... although network is fine
[08:00] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: Fetching the upgrade failed. There may be a network problem.
[08:01] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: this might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/52793/do-release-upgrade-stopped-and-couldnt-re-run
[08:02] <wilee-nilee> lemonsparrow, The standard repos do not contain the upgrade from 10.10, it is end of life.
[08:02] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: look at the topic, those are the supported releases
[08:03] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: the release you are attempting to upgrade from isn't supported or the release you are trying to upgrade to
[08:03] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: wilee-nilee this is what I get now on apt-get update http://pastie.org/private/qjmrhteb8rhrbhmr0kieza
[08:03] <robertzaccour> How do I set my sound to hdmi output? I don't see it in the settings.
[08:03] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: can I update the repo links and have a work around ?
[08:04] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: i've already told you what you should do: backup what you need then fresh install (either 12.04 or 13.04)
[08:05] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: ok I know I need to do that sooner or later but for now I can get my work done if I am able to install mysql but this is the log I get when I try install mysql http://pastie.org/8183125
[08:05] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: the repos are no longer there because 10.10 is NO LONGER SUPPORTED
[08:06] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: ok.. so no choice :( got it
[08:06] <gordonjcp> lemonsparrow: maverick is dead
[08:06] <gordonjcp> lemonsparrow: install 12.04 LTS
[08:06] <lemonsparrow> auronandace: should have installed mysql long back in 10;10 lol
[08:06] <lemonsparrow> gordonjcp: yep
[08:06] <auronandace> lemonsparrow: you should have upgraded long ago
[08:06] <gordonjcp> lemonsparrow: that wouldn't help, because it's still outdated and no longer supported
[08:07] <lemonsparrow> gordonjcp: hmm
[08:08] <gordonjcp> lemonsparrow: this is a thing that people coming from Windows sometimes run afoul of; XP has been around since before Ubuntu even existed
[08:08] <gordonjcp> lemonsparrow: in fact, I think XP came out about the same time as Debian 2.2
[08:08] <lemonsparrow> gordonjcp: hmm
[08:09] <llutz> gordonjcp: between potatoe and woody, but xp is still supported ...
[08:09] <gordonjcp> lemonsparrow: you're expected to do stuff like keep backups and a separate /home partition, so it's (relatively) easy to replace the OS and maintain continuity
[08:10] <lemonsparrow> gordonjcp: hmm
[08:10] <gordonjcp> llutz: it was 13 years ago or so, I can't remember quite what I was doing 13 days ago these days
[08:10] <timfrost> lemonsparrow: check out old-releases.ubuntu.com, because that may have the unsupported intermediate releases that you need to use in the upgrade sequence
[08:10] <lemonsparrow> u guys donating ? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/questions?distro=desktop&bits=32&release=lts
[08:10]  * gordonjcp supports Ubuntu in various ways
[08:10] <reisio> llutz: "supported", for a whole 'nother year
[08:12] <gordonjcp> reisio: heh
[08:12] <gordonjcp> when XP came out Pentium II and AMD K6 chips were current
[08:13] <wilee-nilee> lemonsparrow, The majority of development is done for free and all this support is as well, your asking the wrong people if they donate money, we donate out time, which mine in my own business is $100 per hr
[08:13] <gordonjcp> I paid some scandalous amount of money for a K6-2/500 at the time
[08:13] <lemonsparrow> wilee-nilee: thats awesome
[08:13] <gordonjcp> now I use embedded microcontrollers that are the size of my fingernail, take 4W to run, and cost less than a tin of beer
[08:14] <gordonjcp> and still outperform my K6-2/500
[08:15] <aeon-ltd> but i'm guessing they aren't x86 like the k6
[08:15] <gordonjcp> no, ARM
[08:15] <gordonjcp> man give me 80W worth of ARM to replace this bloody Core 2 Duo
[08:16] <gordonjcp> massively massively multiprocessor desktops with 20 cores?  Oh yeah...
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> wouldn't help
[08:16] <robertzaccour> Ok I figured it out
[08:16] <robertzaccour> thanks for nothin
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> no one runs that many things in parallel, nor is anything written to take advantage of 20 cpu cores
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> yet
[08:17] <gordonjcp> aeon-ltd: I do a lot of compiling
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> clusters!
[08:21] <anonymous_> good morning every anon
[08:22] <anonymous_> hi
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> anonymous_: morning what can we do for you?
[08:23] <anonymous_> talk to me
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> anonymous_: you can use #ubuntu-offtopic for regular chatting
[08:23] <anonymous_> what meaning that
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> anonymous_: meaning this channel here is for ubuntu support questions
[08:25] <anonymous_> and what is aprolblem
[08:27] <anonymous_> can i ask help please
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> anonymous_: yes if its ubuntu problem
[08:28] <anonymous_> first how are you
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> !ask | anonymous_
[08:30] <anonymous_> ok man i like to be anonymous can i
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> what can we do for you
[08:34] <LeonWP> hi
[08:34] <anonymous_> hi anon
[08:34] <LeonWP> is ubuntu working on a fix for CVE-2013-4854?
[08:35] <LeonWP> all i could find was http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2013/CVE-2013-4854.html but nothing in launchpad
[08:36] <LeonWP> wondering if it's useful if I report it into launchpad or if it's being taken care of already
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> LeonWP: maybe this can help? http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> LeonWP: there's an email to contact on security issues
[08:43] <japanized> hi
[08:44] <japanized> how can i play the mp3 format?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> !mp3 | japanized
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> japanized: installing vlc can help you out aswell
[08:46] <raven_> how to adjust cpu frequency?
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> raven_: in bios
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !info psensor | raven_
[08:47] <guillaume_> bonjour
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !fr | guillaume_
[08:47] <raven_> how to adjust cpu frequency in 13.04 (there is no jupiter applet any more)
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> raven_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/296653/ubuntu-13-04-cpu-frequency-scaling-stuck-on-lowest-frequency
[08:50] <japanized> ubottu is a bot?
[08:50] <japanized> you're very kind
[08:52] <anonymous_> fix fix fix
[08:52] <japanized> vlc? is that music player?
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> anonymous_: please stop that, this channel is for ubuntu questions only
[08:52] <lotuspsychje> !info vlc | japanized
[08:53] <raven_> lotuspsychje, ok tnx
[08:53] <anonymous_> iam sorry
[08:54] <anonymous_> what is mean this channel is for ubuntu questions only
[08:58] <guillaume__> bonjour
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> guillaume__: please english only here
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> !fr > guillaume__
[09:10] <s1gm4> Do any of you guys use a particular virus/malware scanner for your systems?
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | s1gm4
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> s1gm4: you can tight your security on ubuntu with many other tools aswell
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> !security | s1gm4
[09:11] <s1gm4> Yep. Thats the one im using right now. Was just hoping for something new.
[09:12] <s1gm4> thanks lotuspsychje
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> s1gm4: rootkithunter is pretty handy aswell
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> s1gm4: and snort
[09:12] <s1gm4> Oh, I hadnt head of that. I use chkrootkit
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> !info rkhunter | s1gm4
[09:14] <llutz> pretty pointless, when installed on the system you want to check
[09:14] <s1gm4> alias rkhunter='sh -c "for i in range(1,100); echo nothing wrong"'
[09:14] <s1gm4> :D
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> s1gm4: the security trigger shows alot of usefull tools :p
[09:18] <japanized> I found out that C++ programming is possible under Ubuntu OS. After compiling the source file, how does the executable file look like?
[09:19] <Znoosey> what do you mean japanized?
[09:19] <feitingen> japanized: like an ELF executable
[09:19] <japanized> ELF?
[09:20] <japanized> ELF file can run under Windows?
[09:20] <feitingen> japanized: no
[09:21] <feitingen> japanized: if you compile it for linux, it will run on linux, if you compile it for windows, it will run on windows, you can do both on linux and windows
[09:22] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[09:22] <japanized> I am not sure my laptop has problem on display. i cannot see the full text you type. feitingen
[09:23] <feitingen> japanized: look here if you want to make windows programs http://www.mingw.org/
[09:24] <japanized> how can i upload the screen capture?
[09:24] <ShapeShifter499> I just noticed something... I downloaded a android rom from dev-host ( http://d-h.st )  and the site shows it being 116.20 mb big but nautilus says its 122mb big however the amount of bytes big it shows matches what the site shows. Is there a bug in nautilus or could this just be a site issue?
[09:28] <japanized> making the application for Linux can make money? I heard of free license about Linux.
[09:28] <ubuntu> sanjay
[09:31] <feitingen> ShapeShifter499: nautilus is using 1MB=1000000 bytes, and the site is using 1MB=1048576 bytes. There is nothing wrong with your file.
[09:32] <excelsiora> So is it possible to invert colors in unity? Or was that only before Unity? My screen is too bright and my dimmer doesn't work.
[09:32] <ShapeShifter499> ah
[09:32] <ShapeShifter499> feitingen, thanks for the info
[09:32] <ssfjhh> can anyone help me? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17905179/how-can-i-insert-two-pictures-on-the-first-page-in-xelatex
[09:38] <moza> Hello. I'm trying to make space for ubuntu on a dual-boot system, but it seems neither gparted nor the disk utility are up to the task. Are there other options?
[09:38] <hewhomust> moza what do you mean?
[09:39] <moza> I had one 30Gb partition for linux
[09:39] <moza> alongside one 90 Gb for windows
[09:39] <moza> now i'm trying to downsize the windows one
[09:39] <moza> but gparted doesn't show the partitions and the disk utility only offers to erase and recreate partitions
[09:40] <moza> It is probably linked to having small errors in the disk or the partition table, but i am not sure if i can fix that and how.
[09:41] <ruslan_osmanov> Hi, how do I install this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libevent/2.0.21-stable-1/+build/4591770 via command line? I mean `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:SOMETHING`
[09:41] <moza> I have a backup of the windows system, and the ubuntu system only has some new mails.
[09:42] <hewhomust> rus that is the right command
[09:42] <ruslan_osmanov> hewhomust, `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:...`. What should be instead of "..."?
[09:43] <jost> Hi! I've tried to build a FakeRAID 1 setup on my machine, adding a mirror disk to an existing one. I've set up the raid in BIOS, and then reinstalled XUbuntu 12.04. Everything worked fine after that, but when updating to 12.10, an error occurred when updating GRUB and now the machine won't boot anymore. I've tried to install XUbuntu 12.04 again, but it does not work - it is not able to write something to the RAID disk in the partitioning
[09:43] <linelevel> Hi guys. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. My install of postgresql became messed up, so I tried to `purge` and re-`install` it with apt-get, but the installation gives me an error: "Error: could not create default cluster. Please create it manually with  pg_createcluster 9.1 main --start"  -- But that command fails with "Error: move_conffile: required configuration file /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/main/postgresql.conf does not exist"
[09:43] <moza> jost, are you able to mount anything through a live cd ?
[09:43] <linelevel> Can anyone please help?
[09:45] <hewhomust> rus could you show me your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:45] <HypnotiX> hello, im a windows user trying to switch to ubuntu and i am frustrated as hell :)
[09:45] <hewhomust> it seems like you need to add the saucy source
[09:45] <hewhomust> lol
[09:45] <hewhomust> what is the problem?
[09:45] <HypnotiX> after spending 4 hours trying to install 13.04 and getting cannot install swap bla bla errors
[09:46] <HypnotiX> i managed to install 12.04 without any problems on the same unpartitioned space
[09:46] <hewhomust> lol could you please tell me more info, how exactly did you install it and what is the error?
[09:47] <HypnotiX> wait :D
[09:47] <hewhomust> np
[09:47] <HypnotiX> on 12.04 i have a problem
[09:47] <jost> moza: Booting from Live CD works
[09:47] <HypnotiX> my max rezolution is set to 1024
[09:47] <HypnotiX> i install the current nvidia driver from the repo
[09:47] <HypnotiX> and still nothing
[09:47] <HypnotiX> i have two monitors btw
[09:48] <hewhomust> hypnotix paste the results from sudo xrandr -q please
[09:49] <hewhomust> you might just have to make a custom resolution
[09:50] <moza> jost : i had a similar problem and ended up reconstructing things from the live cd
[09:50] <jost> moza: ok, what was the problem? GRUB not correctly set up?
[09:51] <moza> jost : first thing is to make a backup before trying to reinstall or reconstruct anything, are you set on that?
[09:51] <jost> moza: thats done
[09:51] <bawank_> hi, im newbie, and i've installed ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop, and i wanna make a conky+colors, anyone can help me to explain it? i need link to read :_
[09:52] <amyassin> This is my first IRC login
[09:52] <moza> jost : in my case, it was an upgrade that had messed up the grub configuration, and one part of the raid, so i had to reconstruct the raid and reinstall the new version (while keeping /home)
[09:52] <amyassin> ppl say find help on freenode but actually ppl need help to get in freenode in the first place!!!
[09:53] <HypnotiX> hewwhomust: ok i will login to linux and paste the xradr
[09:53] <hewhomust> ok thx
[09:53] <LXLE> is there a terminal command to execute a hotkey combo?
[09:55] <imark> LXLE: what are you trying to achieve? Most keyboard short cuts are just mapped to commands anyway
[09:56] <LXLE> imark: i'm trying to use the terminal to execute a hotkey combination which activates a program
[09:56] <HypnotiX> ok im back
[09:56] <hewhomust> ok
[09:56] <HypnotiX> so i just paste here
[09:56] <hewhomust> yeah
[09:56] <HypnotiX> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 2048 x 768, maximum 16384 x 16384 DVI-I-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DVI-I-1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 480mm x 270mm    1024x768       75.0*+   60.0      800x600        75.0     60.3      640x480        75.0     59.9   DVI-I-2 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 530mm x 290mm    1024x768       75.0*+
[09:59] <hewhomust> Hypnotix could you please install pastebinit
[09:59] <hewhomust> and then run xrandr -q | pastebinit
[09:59] <ssfjhh> can anyone help me? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17905179/how-can-i-insert-two-pictures-on-the-first-page-in-xelatex
[09:59] <hewhomust> !pastebinit
[10:00] <imark> LXLE: Which program, as I said most hotkeys merely run a command, so you don't need to figure out how to run a command that maps a keyboard shortcut that runs another command, you just run the final command, if you follow me
[10:00] <HypnotiX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5921215/
[10:01] <LXLE> actually i do because i'm creating a shortcut that executes the command that will activate the hotkey
[10:01] <hewhomust> thx
[10:01] <LXLE> imark: actually i do because i'm creating a shortcut that executes the command that will activate the hotkey
[10:01] <HypnotiX> ty too :)
[10:01] <hewhomust> yup you probably need to add another resolution
[10:02] <HypnotiX> but why... i installed the lastest video drivers
[10:02] <HypnotiX> sigh
[10:02] <hewhomust> i dont know lol
[10:02] <HypnotiX> this is why most people dont switch to linux :(
[10:02] <imark> LXLE: and what does the hotkey do? whats the overall result?
[10:03] <HypnotiX> ok so how do i add my resolution
[10:03] <LXLE> imark: its a hotkey combo that activate an app launcher
[10:03] <hewhomust> well whats your resolution?
[10:03] <HypnotiX> 1920 1080
[10:03] <hewhomust> ok
[10:04] <hewhomust> hypno, well first run this command sudo cvt 1920 1080 60
[10:05] <imark> LXLE: so you want to have a keyboard shortcut that activates a launcher? why not just launch the app directly with a keyboard shortcut? forgive me for not directly answering you question but it seems like you're trying to go the long way round here
[10:07] <LXLE> imark: i need an icon that executes a hotkey combo so i can put that icon in the panel so its clickable. icons can be manipulated to execute terminal commands , so i need a command that activates a hotkey so i can make an icon thats clickable in the panel
[10:08] <dharini> hi is anyone online ?
[10:16] <hewhomust> lol no
[10:16] <imark> LXLE: okay I get you, well it still depends on the exact result you want to achieve, hotkeys are just keys, they don't have commands themselves but all hotkeys will just execute another command, you jsut need to find out what that command is, so back to the start, and be specific, what do you want the clickable icon to do?
[10:16] <hewhomust> dharin whats the problem
[10:18] <LXLE> imark: to execute a hotkey combo
[10:20] <dell> bonjour!
[10:20] <hewhomust> hi dell
[10:21] <dell> c'est la premiere fois que j'utlise IRC
[10:21] <k1l> !fr | dell
[10:21] <hewhomust> !de
[10:21] <dell> ok, sorry...
[10:22] <k1l> hewhomust: that wasnt german :)
[10:22] <hewhomust> i know
[10:22] <hewhomust> just didnt know that you could do that awesome
[10:22] <imark> LXLE: yes I get it, but what I asked is what do you want that hotkey to do,  your not helping me help you here, if you want to continue to do this the difficult way, look into xbindkeys http://www.butlerpc.net/blog/2011/01/using-xbindkeys-on-ubuntu-linux-to-remap-key-commands/ the easy way is to still figure out the command that this hotkey is running, all launcher/hotkeys/shortcuts lead back to a simple command, if you figure
[10:22] <imark> out what that command is then you jsut make a simple launcher for it,
[10:23] <fooman2011> hello guys, I have a question about wake on lan and ubuntu server, is it the appriopriate chan ?
[10:24] <LXLE> imark: oh for god sake, i know what the hotkey does, i just need an icon that executes the hotkey
[10:24] <LXLE> that is irrelevant information
[10:27] <imark> LXLE: okay, so I won't try and save you the hassle and ball-ache look into xbindkeys on your own, sometimes it best to just let other people help you rather than pretend you know better than everyone else
[10:28] <joshu> how do you enable display brightness changing at the lightdm unity-greeter screen?
[10:29] <LXLE> imark: there is no other way to explain what i need to you, i know what the hotkey does, i know what program its tied to, it doesn't simple launch the program the program is a daemon which runs in the background, the hotkey activates the daemon to bring up a dialog box,   therego i need a icon that executes the hotkey, i don't need to figure out what the hotkey does or what its tied to
[10:31] <imark> LXLE: clearly you know better so I'll let you get on with it, not that it matters now but if you just answered my questions you would have had this finished by now
[10:32] <LXLE> imark: lol ya ok
[10:32] <javicus> :)
[10:35] <jost> whats the correct way to install grub from a live CD to a FakeRAID 1 array?
[10:36] <ikonia> jost: it should show the meta device as a "disk"
[10:36] <ikonia> jost: so you just install to that meta device
[10:36] <jost> ikonia: yes, it looks like /dev/mapper/nvidia_sadasdasd
[10:37] <jost> but when running sudo grub-setup /dev/mapper/..., I get a segfault
[10:37] <ikonia> jost: why are you running that, the install should install grub
[10:38] <jost> ikonia: the installer installed grub, but after that I've updated from 12.04 (last version with alternative installer) to 12.10. After that, grub does not find files anymore and such things
[10:38] <jost> 12.04 worked
[10:38] <ikonia> jost: what do you mean "grub does not find the files"
[10:38] <jost> it boots and says "error: file not found"
[10:39] <ikonia> jost: if it boots it can't not find the file
[10:39] <ikonia> jost: what point of grub fails
[10:39] <occ> can i make ubuntu configuration files link somewhere else? for example say my ubuntu is installed on my HDD, can i put my /etc/hosts file, in a seperate usb stick, and have /etc/hosts on my HDD file-link to the usb stick
[10:39] <ikonia> occ: no
[10:39] <dotcom420> Hello there. Can i run iphone games and apps on ubuntu?
[10:39] <ikonia> dotcom420: no
[10:39] <jost> I don't get the grub selection screen, only a prompt where i may enter a boot line
[10:40] <jost> ikonia:
[10:40] <ikonia> jost: ok, so it doesn't boot - grub can't find the menu/config file so doesn't have a menu option
[10:40] <jost> Ok - How would I fix that one?
[10:40] <jost> got a Live CD running
[10:40] <ikonia> jost: first thing is to check if the files are there
[10:41] <dotcom420> ikonia: I heard from someone that by virtualization, we can do that. But i am not sure. What  are your thoughts?
[10:41] <ikonia> jost: however I suspect this is going to end up being a problem with fakeraid as it's support is terrible
[10:41] <ikonia> dotcom420: no, you can't do that
[10:41] <dotcom420> ok
[10:44] <jost> ikonia: next problem: I can't mount the raid
[10:44] <ikonia> jost: that's probably why grub can't find th efiles
[10:45] <jost> ikonia: I meant from a Live CD... but got that, was my own stupidity
[10:45] <joshu> no suggestions on how to enable keyboard brightness keys at the lightdm unity-greeter prior to login?
[10:45] <ikonia> joshu: you're too stripped down for that
[10:46] <joshu> ikonia hi but even on a standard ubuntu install I can't change brightness prior to login
[10:46] <joshu> only after I've logged in and can see the desktop
[10:46] <ikonia> joshu: I suspect because the config for the keys will be a per user setup
[10:46] <ikonia> joshu: so until you login the keys/daemon controlling it are not started
[10:47] <shasten> hey on ubuntu ultimate edition 3.5, I can´t pull up frostwire.  It downloads, but when I click on it nothing happens.  Any possible explanations?
[10:47] <joshu> ikonia no way around that?
[10:47] <ikonia> joshu: depends what's configuring/controlling the keys
[10:47] <ikonia> shasten: ubuntu ultimate is not an official ubuntu distribution, we don't support it here, it's not ubuntu
[10:48] <VP1> Using 12.04, Dell Inspiron, Core2 Duo, TAB key continuously autopresed with fast pace. unable to work. pl help
[10:49] <joshu> ikonia how can I find out how the keys are controlled?
[10:49] <shasten> pardon me, it is kubuntu, but it still comes installed with System 76 systems so it is ubuntu.
[10:49] <ikonia> shasten: ubuntu ultimate edition is not kubuntu
[10:50] <ikonia> joshu: a good question, i've not looked at hot keys for a long time
[10:50] <shasten> yes it is, it is Kubuntu 12.04, and it downloads off KDE.  I just thought someone would know a quick fix.
[10:50] <ikonia> joshu: I'm wondering if it's xorg mapping for special keys
[10:50] <VP1> pl help
[10:50] <ikonia> joshu: or it can be / used to be a stand alone daemon listening for events
[10:51] <ikonia> shasten: ubuntu ultimate edition is NOT an official ubuntu build and we don't support it here
[10:51] <joshu> ikonia if it's xorg then there should be a config /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[10:51] <joshu> but on my test default ubuntu standard install I can't find that file
[10:51] <ikonia> joshu: depends, if it's part of the xderver (doubtful) then yes,
[10:52] <shasten> whatever...I don´t mean to argue, just thought someone would have a quick fix.  I got other places I can look..
[10:52] <ikonia> joshu: xorg.conf is dynamic for a long time now, so you only have that file if you need to hardcode/force
[10:52] <ikonia> shasten: I suggest looking in other places as we don't support ultimate edition here
[10:53] <napsc> shasten: if it comes with System 76, why not check with them.
[10:55] <Kevin`> how can I make the ubuntu gui connect to a wireless network that doesn't have a dhcp server?
[10:55] <ikonia> Kevin`: setup a static ip configuration for the wireless network
[10:56] <Kevin`> can I have two wireless networks with the same name? I just want to do this temporarily
[10:56] <ikonia> Kevin`: sure
[10:56] <imark> joshu: its the gnome libraries that monitor for  input on the brightness buttons, but gnome doesn't start until after you login
[10:57] <ikonia> imark: super, thank you
[10:59] <imark> ive just googled around a bit for things like "lightdm custom keyboard shortcuts" and i dont think its something that can be easily done
[11:00] <joshu> ikonia imark hmm.. when I tail /var/log/syslog and hit the brightness keys when I'm logged in I see kernel: atkbd seri0 events
[11:00] <ikonia> imark: it must be a specific daemon that does it though
[11:00] <ikonia> joshu: yes, it's sending a keyboard event, but nothings listening
[11:03] <joshu> ikonia and when it says in the syslog…"use setkeycodes e02b to make it known" is that something I can use?
[11:03] <imark> joshu: perhaps xbindkeys could help, you can install xbindkeys from the standard repos and configure it to listen for any keyboard command, and it can be set to run as soon as the system boots rather than when you log in, I've never used it this purpose and its probably a bit heavy duty but in theory it can do it
[11:03] <imark> *used it for this purpose
[11:03] <ikonia> joshu: you can't do much with it, but something listening for that keyboard event can
[11:04] <joshu> imark ok I'm wiling to try as I'd really like my users to be able to change the brightness when not logged in and when the session is not gnome as well
[11:05] <imark> joshu: if you get it working I would advice disabling the gnome shortcut for brightness control otherwise after you log in every hit on the brightness button will register twice
[11:06] <imark> should be able to do  that in the normal keyboard shortcut sections
[11:07] <joshu> imark so after I install xbindkeys. I need to create a.xbindkeysrc file and in that specify the event which I see in syslog and then what to do on that event?
[11:08] <ikonia> joshu: be very interesting to see if that works, I'm not sure it will
[11:10] <japanized> how can I play the asf format?
[11:11] <imark> it should work, its just figuring out the specific keyboard command to up or down brightness that could be tricky, apparently it varies considerably depending on the machine in question
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> japanized  i read here, it's a MS thingy and can be played with VLC
[11:12] <joshu> imark so I've install xbindkeys now and trying to figure out the xbindkeysrc file.
[11:13] <japanized> monkeydust i can hear but cannot see
[11:14] <imark> yeah its a fiddly one, but there are many guide available, i would test it just doing something simple like open terminal, trying to figure out how to get xbindkeys working and working out the correct command to change brightness at the same time could get messy
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> japanized  use winff to convert it to avi or so, then try again
[11:14] <japanized> oh
[11:15] <japanized> many trouble things while converting from Windows to Ubuntu
[11:16] <japanized> MonkeyDust anyway thanks
[11:16] <japanized> s
[11:17] <kephra> moin - where does ubuntu precise store its wifi passwords?
[11:17] <kephra> to edit them by shell cut'n'paste
[11:19] <kephra> the /etc/network/interfaces only contain loopback - but neither eth0 nor wlan0
[11:19] <bekks> kephra: They arent store in plain text, so you cant edit them as plain text.
[11:19] <kephra> still ethernet works out of the box - but wlan does not (likely because of typos of my very long password)
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> kephra  yes, ethernet is the fastest, safest and easiest way to connect, it does not require extra configuration, as opposed to wireless
[11:23] <kephra> well - my plan now is: login via ssh, and cut'n'paste the wlan passwd
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> kephra  sounds like poor security, if that were possible
[11:23] <kephra> so the question is, if there is any way to edit/change the wlan password of the ubuntu system for an ESSID by commandline, shell, editor?
[11:24] <kephra> typing 128 characters is to prone to errors
[11:24] <kephra> other question is: is it possible to disable to ubuntu way - and use plain old wpa config
[11:26] <bekks> kephra: Even WPA is the ubuntu way. And even for WPA, the password is stored encrypted, and not in plain text.
[11:27] <japanized> where can i find GCC launcher?
[11:28] <japanized> GCC is GNU C compiler.
[11:28] <bekks> There is no gcc launcher. There is a program called "gcc" which is sufficient.
[11:28] <japanized> I can see gcc is installed. but I do not know how to start it
[11:28] <bekks> japanized: Open a terminal, type gcc, press enter.
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:29] <excelsiora> japanized: probably before you do that, type man gcc
[11:29] <kephra> japanized, create a source code and name it like ttt.c - then in same directory type: make ttt
[11:29] <napsc> kephra: if you're using network manager: man nmcli
[11:29] <napsc> i haven
[11:29] <napsc> i havent used it myself
[11:30] <japanized> my first problem is my laptop canot display the full text you guys typed.
[11:30] <japanized> even what I typed is not fully displayed.
[11:30] <kephra> napsc, is the ubuntu GUI using network manager? (the thing in precise top bar)
[11:31] <japanized> where can i upload the picture?
[11:32] <kephra> *ok* it loos so
[11:32] <kephra> s/loos/looks/
[11:33] <joshu> I can get xbindkeys to launch say gedit, but I can't get a command to run such as "sudo /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gsd-backlight --set-brightness 100"
[11:33] <japanized> i wanna give you the link after uploading picture
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> japanized  http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[11:40] <joshu> ikonia so without a doubt I can change the brightness at lightdm greeter by doing ctrl+alt+F1 to get to the virtual terminal and then running the above command, but now how do I run this command with a keyboard shortcut?
[11:40] <joshu> ikonia I tried with bindkeys as imark suggested but maybe I've created my xbindkeysrc file wrong
[11:41] <ikonia> I've never really needed bindkeys, so no used it beyond a 5 minute play
[11:45] <joshu> so close but yet so far awey
[11:51] <dbugger> Hello guys. Can someone please tell me what is the best hassle-free problem to start developing after installing Apache? I mean it because I dont want to be sudo-ing all the time to get access to "/var/www"
[11:54] <imark> joshu: any luck with the xbindkeys, ive just switched over to my netbook running mint with mdm and it would seem mdm supports brightness controls
[11:55] <joshu> hi imark no luck I might be doing something wrong not sure.
[11:55] <joshu> As I told ikonia I can change display brightness at the lightdm greeter by going to the virtual terminal and executing sudo /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gsd-backlight-helper --set-brightness 255
[11:56] <joshu> imark just need to find a way to do this without dropping to the virtual terminal as I don't want users to do that ;)
[11:56] <imark> joshu: ah right it needs sudo, that requires sudo, that could be a problem,
[11:57] <somsip> dbugger: if it's for local dev, add yourself to www-data group, then chgrp www-data -R /var/www, and finally chmod g+s /var/www. Logout and in again, and you should be able to create files in /var/www as www-data which Apache will be able to read
[11:57] <imark> hhhm, typing hings twice, clearly i need a coffee
[11:57] <imark> *things,
[11:57] <joshu> imark hehe
[11:57] <joshu> imark so xbindkeys won't work?
[11:58] <imark> joshu: well yes but youll have to edit the sudoers file so that can be run by any user without the need for sudo password, or figure out another way of changing the brightness without sudo, it must be possible
[11:59] <joshu> ok let me try the sudoers option and see if that work
[11:59] <Lee1234> hello
[11:59] <Lee1234> is der anyone
[12:00] <Lee1234> need help
[12:00] <joshu> imark this is where I found the gnome-settings string http://virtuallyhyper.com/2013/03/update-chrubuntu-12-04-to-13-04-on-the-samsung-chromebook/
[12:00] <joshu> he uses pkexec in a script
[12:00] <Lee1234> i cant install any software from software center
[12:01] <hewhomust> lee, have you tried the terminal?
[12:01] <Guest80044> Hi guys. Is there any way to get back unity 2d on 13.04?
[12:01] <brotakul> Hi guys. Is there any way to get back unity 2d on 13.04?
[12:02] <Senor> How can I save binary array to mysql db?
[12:03] <Lee1234> i cant install any software ... it shows some error like "Require installation of untrusted packages"
[12:03] <hewhomust> weird
[12:03] <Lee1234> pls help
[12:04] <hewhomust> Lee, perhaps this website will be of use to you, http://askubuntu.com/questions/184117/requires-installation-of-untrusted-packages
[12:04] <Lee1234> i tried to install gparted n xchat from terminal .... it worked bt .. from software center its not... wt to do ..
[12:04] <Guest46150> Hi
[12:05] <Lee1234> ok  .... wait
[12:05] <Guest46150> I always getting error about some .gpg file when updating
[12:05] <Guest46150> says that's something is broken
[12:05] <dbugger> somsip, how do I add myself to www-data?
[12:06] <rage_> Hello, I'm there is a fix recently commited to Compiz 0.9.10 that I'm eager to get. Is Compiz 0.9.10 likely to end up in 13.04 ?
[12:06] <joshu> imark ok it seems to work with /usr/bin/pkexec /usr/lib/gnome…….
[12:07] <joshu> maybe it's that xbindkeys isn't starting up
[12:07] <nannes> !gpgerr | Guest46150
[12:07] <Guest46150> nannes: how do i found the key?
[12:08] <nannes> Guest46150: It should be shown in your error message.
[12:08] <nannes> brotakul: Why do you wanna get back to unity 2d?
[12:09] <Guest46150> nannes: ah, thanks, ill try it
[12:09] <Guest46150> W:GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG A8AA1FAA3F055C03 Launchpad PPA for Daniel Richter, E:Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_danielrichter2007_grub-customizer_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages.IndexDiff - open (2: No such file or directory)
[12:09] <imark> joshu: gnome tools again though, I'm not confident that will work until you're logged in,
[12:10] <imark> it may do, I'm not sure
[12:10] <Guest46150> nannes: i posted my error message
[12:10] <brotakul> nannes: i got mobility hd2600 on my laptop and the legacy drivers doesn't seem very fast. and the proprietary ati drivers seem to be troublesome to install, from what i read on the internet. i hope unity 2d to be easier on the video card
[12:11] <joshu> imark I think the problem might be that xbindkeys isn't starting till I login but I'm not sure
[12:11] <nannes> Guest46150: mm very long key.. it should be that one, but I'm not sure. Just try
[12:11] <joshu> when I'm logged in the shortcuts I've created work fine.
[12:12] <imark> okay, open up your crontab "crontab -e" and add a line to start xbindkeys at reboot
[12:12] <gregor_> hi
[12:12] <hewhomust> hi
[12:12] <gregor_> sup ?
[12:12] <hewhomust> lol
[12:12] <nannes> brotakul: In "hardware drivers" menu you can see available proprietary drivers for your card?
[12:12] <noregret> so i'm on precise, and the plowshare package requires curl > 7.24 and by default, 7.22 is installed, so i removed it and installed it from source (latest), now the issue is that when i try apt-get install plowshare, it doesn't detect that curl is installed at all, is there a way to add curl to teh system as a package or soemthing like that.. any ideas ?
[12:12] <gregor_> i just booted up xchat on linux for the first time :))
[12:13] <hewhomust> lol nice
[12:13] <Guest46150> nannes: it says that key key iwas unchanged
[12:13] <brotakul> nannes: no, i already checked that, as i always did when installing new version of ubuntu, but in 13.04 nothing appears there
[12:14] <gregor_> do you guys come here often ?
[12:14] <Guest46150> gpg: requesting key 3F055C03 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[12:14] <Guest46150> gpg: key 3F055C03: "Launchpad PPA for Daniel Richter" not changed
[12:14] <gregor_> brotakul are you trying to instal linux ubuntu ?
[12:15] <brotakul> gregor_: i'm on 13.04 here, just trying to get unity_2d for more speed
[12:15] <cfhowlett> gregor_, general chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic please.  Thank you.
[12:15] <Guest46150> nannes: still same error
[12:15] <gregor_> ah ok
[12:16] <gregor_> i over run my xp windows machine with linux thought i give it a try
[12:16] <hewhomust> yeah if you've got a problem come here lol
[12:16] <planete> hi
[12:17] <hewhomust> hi planete
[12:17] <gregor_> its going not to bad
[12:17] <hewhomust> nice
[12:17] <planete> it's fabulous
[12:17] <planete> this 'chatbox'
[12:17] <Guest46150> can someone help me?
[12:17] <nannes> Ok brotakul.  Well in my opinion unity2d lacks in all the good features that original unity can offer, being even too "spendy" in hardware resources. So I would suggest you to directly switch to another DE (a light one)
[12:18] <ikonia> Guest46150: people won't know if they can help unless you ask a question