[03:46] <Unununium> Make a backup while you still can.  Do nothing else until then.
[03:46] <reka> ethan1: your HDD?  something is seriously wrong then
[03:46] <halley> darkheart, whee.  That mentions scim a lot, not gimlet, but will try it out.
[03:46] <TheGnome> ethan1, sounds like your system is shot.....clicking of the hardrive means its about to fail....
[03:46] <deviant> hmm. could someone pls tell me where the j2sdk is installed. i`m looking for the "jre" folder, but i can`t find it anywhere!
[03:46] <darkheart> halley It's really nice. I type in Japanese as well and it is perfect.
[03:46] <Unununium> Want to demonstrate for us? :^)
[03:47] <reka> dannyu502_: seriously, what are you deleting?  you rarely need to go outside those limits
[03:47] <TheGnome> deviant, /usr/lib
[03:47] <zovirl> is it normal to have both an OSS and alsa mixer listed in the device menu of volume?
[03:47] <zovirl> I only have one sound card (I thought)
[03:47] <ethan1> TheGnome  alright..  and also during partitioning, when writing and creating the root disk, every time no matter if i create it myself or let it do it it freezes at 100% for 20 minutes and i don't see it create the swap either..
[03:47] <ethan1> it also freezes on the aqua screen a lot during installation
[03:47] <Unununium> OSS and ALSA more-or-less provide the same service.  Prefer ALSA since OSS is just emulation
[03:47] <halley> darkheart, hrm, 'cannot find package uim' - stock ubuntu apt conf
[03:47] <TheGnome> ethan1, your hard disk is junk
[03:48] <darkheart> halley One sec.
[03:48] <ethan1> k
[03:48] <reka> ethan1: back up while you can
[03:48] <TheGnome> ethan1, there not expensive...really  you could get one fore about $40
[03:48] <zovirl> unununium thanks
[03:48] <ethan1> I have nothing to back up
[03:48] <deviant> TheGnome: aha. ok, 10x :)
[03:48] <ethan1> and nothing to back up to either...
[03:48] <haja> I got a problem using Eterm.... I am trying to get it transparent on my desktop but it keeps loading with a background... can anyone help?
[03:48] <ethan1> TheGnome  I know but its also realy hard getting into iBooks
[03:49] <ethan1> and it has to be one thats gunna work with my iBook...
[03:49] <reiki> can someone please respond using my name here so
[03:49] <darkheart> halley Join #flood
[03:49] <ethan1> reiki
[03:49] <TheGnome> ethan1, oh yeah its a laptop......hardrives are a little more
[03:49] <reiki> I so I can hear if I get audible alert
[03:49] <AdmiralSenn> so.. still looking for someone to tell me why ubuntu sometimes kicks me into a text-only mode
[03:49] <reiki> thanks!
[03:49] <reiki> :)
[03:49] <AdmiralSenn> cafuego said it had something to do with xorg
[03:49] <AdmiralSenn> Anyone who can tell me if anything's wrong with my Xorg log http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/1310
[03:49] <MrPockets> is it healthy, that i've begun to live my life around what Wonda the fish says :-X ??
[03:49] <Unununium> That was a good movie
[03:49] <kampfzerstorer> tried all this, I get (gedit:9203) : GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[03:49] <ethan1> TheGnome  And I'm just a KID so i dont really have any...  constant flow of money...
[03:49] <reiki> ok so I got sound working
[03:49] <ethan1> yea...
[03:49] <reka> reiki: pc speaker or wav file?
[03:49] <halley> darkheart, where do those go?  total apt novice here.
[03:50] <darkheart> halley That's my /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:50] <AdmiralSenn> also, I can't get the nvidia driver run package to work
[03:50] <TheGnome> ethan1, how old are you?
[03:50] <reiki> actually... sounds like it's coming from my pc speaker
[03:50] <ethan1> TheGnome why?
[03:50] <ethan1> lol..
[03:50] <halley> darkheart, so is there a "where did I get pkg X from?" query?
[03:50] <reka> kampfzerstorer: are you running a root terminal?
[03:50] <etker> anyone awake ?
[03:50] <Unununium> I once patched my kernel to provide an OSS device for my PC speaker.  I then played the worst music I could find so that I wouldn't notice the drop in quality. :^)
[03:50] <TheGnome> ethan1, well you said kid?......im just wondering i think its cool when young people get into linux
[03:50] <TheGnome> im only 21
[03:50] <kampfzerstorer> reka: Yes I am
[03:50] <haja> I got a problem using Eterm.... I am trying to get it transparent on my desktop but it keeps loading with a background... can anyone help?
[03:50] <darkheart> halley Not that I know of, but there may be.
[03:50] <reka> kampfzerstorer: that's why
[03:51] <ethan1> TheGnome  cool
[03:51] <othernoob> does mplayer play divx6?
[03:51] <reiki> reka: wav files working through sound card speakers
[03:51] <ethan1> TheGnome  I'm 14  = -D
[03:51] <ethan1> but this is annoying me
[03:51] <reiki> so I think that part's ok for now
[03:51] <reka> reiki: using xchat?
[03:51] <reiki> using ChatZilla
[03:51] <McQuaid> ok i gave up for now in hoary and just installed it in my sid box as it's up to date
[03:51] <etker> ok ... so i'm trying to connect to a ubuntu box and ssh doesnt wanna play. i suspect that sshd isnt even started or installed. if we omit the fact that one can know whether a fresh ubuntu comes with or without sshd, how does one check whether its running in *nix ?
[03:52] <reka> othernoob: check the mplayer codec status page
[03:52] <iiiears>  Admiral, - you may have a good reason to use the nvidia driver from nvidia's site - nvidia-glx on the ubuntu repository should be easier to install.
[03:52] <AdmiralSenn> iiiears: it was
[03:52] <bimberi> etker: a fresh install has no sshd
[03:52] <AdmiralSenn> but I want to see if there's any difference
[03:52] <McQuaid> anyone familar with gnomad2?
[03:53] <iiiears> AdmiralSenn - what error/s are you seeing?
[03:53] <AdmiralSenn> iiiears: kernel interface and lack thereof
[03:53] <McQuaid> i'm trying to grab these damn wma's off it but getting an error  tried to access protected track!
[03:53] <McQuaid> never mind i'm an idiot
[03:53] <bimberi> etker: install the openssh-server package
[03:53] <kampfzerstorer> reka: hmm, it opened and it was a blank file, and it won't let me save it
[03:54] <ethan1> TheGnome  I have a 3 gig hard drive that will fit in my iBook but I dont know is that enough room?
[03:54] <darkheart> halley Actually, if you do a 'apt-cache search uim --full' it might give you the name of the repository
[03:54] <iiiears> AdmiralSenn, - i am really too new to offer much help. - nvidia-glx worked for me. :s
[03:54] <etker> bimberi: ok ... but let me be more clear: if we forget for a second that both you and i know that a fresh ubuntu has no sshd. How would i check if its running or not ?
[03:54] <ethan1> i dont know if its worth it taking apart every piece of my coputer just to get to the hard drive.. because thats what you have to do..
[03:54] <rob_p> etker:  ps -A | grep sshd
[03:54] <Unununium> ethan1: I sympathize.  I had to do same the other day
[03:54] <etker> bimberi: and by the way: when i install the openssh-server package ... will it also be added to some sort of startup-file, so that its always started on boot ?
[03:54] <AdmiralSenn> heh
[03:54] <halley> darkheart, still poking around, not found with "universe"
[03:55] <Unununium> Due to a failed power supply interface board in the laptop
[03:55] <etker> rob_p: thanks!
[03:55] <AdmiralSenn> iiiears: it is working, I'm just hoping for a slight improvement
[03:55] <ethan1> jhmm...
[03:55] <AdmiralSenn> and I'm also tired of ubuntu kicking me out for no reason
[03:55] <jeffrae> how do I install a .deb file?
[03:55] <darkheart> halley Oh..You have to run an 'apt-get update' after you change that file.
[03:55] <reka> kampfzerstorer: in a *normal* terminal, then doing 'sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf' ?
[03:55] <reka> jeffrae: what is it?
[03:55] <kampfzerstorer> reka: correct
[03:56] <jeffrae> gs-esp_7.07.1-9_ia64.deb
[03:56] <jeffrae> oops
[03:56] <jeffrae> sory wrong one
[03:56] <kampfzerstorer> reka: opens and the file is blank, then when I copy what I want to be in it from another source it won't let me save the file
[03:56] <reka> kampfzerstorer: does 'less /etc/X11/xorg.conf' output anything?
[03:56] <haja> anyone got a transparent terminal on they're desktop?
[03:56] <reka> kampfzerstorer: (don't paste)
[03:56] <halley> darkheart, aha, the elixir.
[03:57] <halley> That did it.
[03:57] <iiiears> AdmiralSenn, - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is painful. - shouldn't be but is.
[03:57] <darkheart> halley Cool =) Is scim working now? Or still more work to be done?
[03:57] <reiki> ok... default install of Hoary. Anything need to be updated special other than the way it set itself up on install?  I thought this was a pretty darn nice install for linux... and I've done many flavors
[03:57] <jeffrae> gs-esp_8+8.15rc4.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb
[03:57] <jeffrae> that
[03:57] <nomasteryoda> haja, yes
[03:57] <halley> darkheart, have to do the rest of that HOWTO now.
[03:57] <haja> Are you using eterm nomasteryoda
[03:57] <jeffrae> I need GS 8.15
[03:57] <bimberi> etker: sorry - got called away
[03:58] <jeffrae> does ubuntu have a utility to install .deb file?
[03:58] <Unununium> Heh
[03:58] <Lopt> what is upanpoo
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> haja,  whatever the default is for Ubuntu
[03:58] <Unununium> dpkg -i
[03:58] <haja> how did you install it?
[03:58] <reka> jeffrae: reason i'm asking is cos you should check if it's in the repo first...otherwise use 'dpkg -i <deb filename>'
[03:58] <nomasteryoda> give me a min
[03:58] <darkheart> halley Okay, well, I gotta go eat.
[03:58] <Lopt> ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff
[03:58] <etker> bimberi: np
[03:58] <iiiears> jeffrae, - sudo dpkg -i    installs debs alien will translate from rpm to deb
[03:58] <jeffrae> ok
[03:58] <Quest-Master> .
[03:58] <kampfzerstorer> reka: No such file or directory, but I know its there, and when I open it by navigating through the Gnome GUI it opens with the correct contents, but its read only
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> haja, I configured the profiles for transparent
[03:59] <bimberi> etker: ps aux | grep sshd <-- will tell you if it is running
[03:59] <halley> Nullifying<EMAIL_ADDRESS>for 1 hour.
[03:59] <Lopt> wtf
[03:59] <Lopt> Geeks
[03:59] <Lopt> i hope all ya comps DIe
[03:59] <reka> kampfzerstorer: paste the exact command you used in here
[03:59] <haja> nomasteryoda, Where is that?
[03:59] <Unununium> Don't paste :^)
[03:59] <TheGnome> what was his problme
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> haja, i'll be able to tell ya in about 1 min
[03:59] <haja> alrighty
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> have to boot my ubuntu hoary box
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> k
[04:00] <haja> Ok... thanks
[04:00] <bimberi> etker: and yes, the install will set up scripts in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc*.d to start sshd on boot :)
[04:00] <etker> bimberi: yup, got a response similar to that by someone else here ... thanks
[04:00] <haja> I am using this tutorial... http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36811&page=1&pp=10&highlight=transparent+borderless+terminal
[04:00] <etker> bimberi: ok great
[04:00] <TheGnome> is there a linux app that teaches you how to type?
[04:00] <TheGnome> cuz i need it for a job
[04:00] <haja> yea, its called IRC :D
[04:00] <jeffrae> thanks
[04:00] <bimberi> etker: k - i got called away and didn't read my scrollback closely
[04:01] <TheGnome> haja, yeah ....... that would get you to type fast
[04:01] <haja> TheGnome,  yeah.. it helped me a lot
[04:01] <Unununium> Why is apt-get update "Ign"'ing all my hoary-backports repositories?
[04:01] <reka> TheGnome: sure is....i remember linux.com writing about it in their CL tutes
[04:01] <ethan1> humm...
[04:01] <TheGnome> reka, do you remember what it was called
[04:01] <nomasteryoda> Unununium, maybe network traffic...?
[04:02] <TheGnome> ethan1, what are you gonna do?
[04:02] <MustangMatt> So I've had ubuntu installed for a few weeks. Runs flawlessly. The only little problem I have is that dhcp overwrites my resolv.conf from time to time.
[04:02] <etker> haha this was a new one
[04:02] <jeffrae> does anyone know how I can find out what repository has gs-esp_8.15
[04:02] <reka> TheGnome: not off the top of my head...pretty easy to find on their site though
[04:02] <TheGnome> backports is always slow
[04:02] <DonL> I see one called KTouch
[04:02] <bimberi> Unununium: I understand Ign means that the repository doesn't have a Release file - no problem and can be ignored
[04:02] <TheGnome> gtk if possible
[04:02] <reka> jeffrae: does it have a more common name?
[04:02] <Unununium> I see the Release file in my Web browser
[04:02] <goldenfox> is ubuntu comparable to windows xp?
[04:02] <MustangMatt> My router doesn't properly resolve dns so I always manually set resolv.conf. Is there a way to keep it from being overwritten yet continue to receive ip, subnet and gateway from the dhcp server?
[04:02] <etker> i did an apt-get install of openssh-server, and got a reponse from linux that i shojuld install the ubuntu hoary CDrom .... never seen that one before.
[04:02] <jeffrae> I don't know
[04:02] <Unununium> It doesn't appear to be even trying
[04:02] <jeffrae> gs-esp (GhostScript ESP) 8.5
[04:02] <jeffrae> 8.15
[04:03] <kampfzerstorer> reka: 'less /etc/x11/xorg.conf'
[04:03] <kampfzerstorer> bash: less /etc/x11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[04:03] <Unununium> goldenfox: anything can be compared to anything, although it rarely makes sense to do so
[04:03] <nomasteryoda|w> haja, ok... so what was the URL?
[04:03] <reka> kampfzerstorer: big X in X11 :)
[04:03] <Unununium> goldenfox: What do you want to know?
[04:03] <etker> have i somehow configured my apt-system badly, so that it thinkks it should get stuff from CD rather than internet?  i left the CD ad a friends place
[04:03] <DonL> goldenfox, in what way do you mean?
[04:03] <JaneLame> will they ever invent babylon 4 linux? how hard should that be, dammit?
[04:03] <nomasteryoda|w> kampfzerstorer, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:03] <haja> nomasteryoda, etker i did an apt-get install of openssh-server, and got a reponse from linux that i shojuld install the ubuntu hoary CDrom .... never seen that one before.
[04:03] <rob_p> MustangMatt:  If your router settings are configured properly, it should give your Ubuntu box the correct DNS IP addresses.
[04:03] <bimberi> etker: if the current version of a package is still on the install CD it will install from that (saves time/bandwidth)
[04:03] <JaneLame> i hate the substitutes. i want babylon
[04:03] <haja> wtf is that
[04:03] <haja> lol
[04:03] <haja> hold on
[04:03] <nomasteryoda|w> k
[04:03] <haja> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36811&page=1&pp=10&highlight=transparent+borderless+terminal
[04:03] <haja> sorry
[04:03] <reka> jeffrae: pacakge is called gs-esp :)
[04:03] <etker> bimberi: ah shite ... ok ... hmmm  could i override this?
[04:04] <jeffrae> ok :)
[04:04] <nomasteryoda|w> haja, have seen that
[04:04] <ethan1> yea so my computers screwed.. alright...
[04:04] <goldenfox> is ubuntu comparable to windows xp?
[04:04] <JaneLame> what else can i use for a dictionary except wordtrans?
[04:04] <ethan1> lol
[04:04] <reka> jeffrae: know how to install using syanptic/apt-get?
[04:04] <jeffrae> Ubuntu Repositories are only listing verson 7.x
[04:04] <haja> Ok,.. I have it allinstalled correctly but I can't get it transparent
[04:04] <jeffrae> I know how to use syanptic
[04:04] <kampfzerstorer> reka: same result
[04:04] <jeffrae> but I only see 7.x listed
[04:04] <MustangMatt> rob_p: It's configured correctly but it doesn't work right for any machines linux or otherwise. It basically tells those machines it's IP as the DNS server but I want to use the IPs that I gave it. If that makes sense.
[04:04] <haja> I assume its something in the session thing that I added
[04:04] <jeffrae> I need 8.15
[04:04] <DonL> goldenfox, did you not read the responses?
[04:04] <etker> maybe i could try the GUI for installing stuff ... and see there
[04:04] <jeffrae> I am trying to find that
[04:04] <bimberi> etker: edit your sources.list and comment out the "deb cdrom" line (usually at the top)
[04:04] <nomasteryoda|w> haja, using gnome terminal here
[04:05] <sn0n> weird
[04:05] <nomasteryoda|w> but I can try that eterm too
[04:05] <haja> How did you do it?
[04:05] <etker> bimberi: ah ofcourse ... sounds logical. will try
[04:05] <goldenfox> DonL: i havent...
[04:05] <TheGnome> jeffrae, what app is it?
[04:05] <sn0n> anyone else having firefox issues with it opening
[04:05] <sn0n> http://www.rice.edu/ in a new tab
[04:05] <jeffrae> gs-esp 8.15
[04:05] <haja> I'd like to uninstall this and just use the gnome term
[04:05] <bimberi> etker: then apt-get update
[04:05] <sn0n> quite often..
[04:05] <reka> kampfzerstorer: not found?
[04:05] <jan-it> snOn, i am soooo frustrated with firefox and the dang flash crap!
[04:05] <nomasteryoda|w> haja, well do it
[04:05] <nomasteryoda|w> very easy
[04:05] <sn0n> i've NEVER seen this site.. but like 5 times a day.. a new tab opens mysteriously.. and its on http://www.rice.edu/
[04:05] <DonL> goldenfox, better or worse or equal are in the eye of the beholder.
[04:05] <haja> Ok...
[04:05] <TheGnome> jeffrae, are you on i386?
[04:06] <sn0n> jan-it, it works for me..
[04:06] <TheGnome> jan-it, whats the problem?
[04:06] <jeffrae> i am on a x86 install
[04:06] <goldenfox> DonL: Ok, thanks. :)
[04:06] <jeffrae> so I belive so
[04:06] <DonL> goldenfox, for me, this is all I use and I'm very happy
[04:06] <TheGnome> jeffrae, here is the deb file http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fg%2Fgs-esp%2Fgs-esp_8%2B8.15rc4.dfsg.1-1_i386.deb&md5sum=c2a8721b568542e94dfa836d946a3b8f&arch=i386&type=main
[04:06] <deviant> "bash: ./lg3d-dev: /bin/tcsh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory" <--- what doees that means ?
[04:06] <haja> How do I do it nomasteryoda
[04:06] <goldenfox> by the way guys whats an i386?
[04:06] <turnix> sudo apt-get update
[04:06] <jeffrae> ok
[04:06] <jeffrae> I found that
[04:06] <dfeed_> trying to adjust some sound stuff... how do I restart the sound server?
[04:07] <jan-it> I have tried to install flash in multiple ways and it seems to work on "some" sight but many othes it just locks up firefox and I loose all my tabs!
[04:07] <nomasteryoda|w> haja, you have synaptic?
[04:07] <kampfzerstorer> reka: I think I finally got it to work, the problem was that I'm stupid =)
[04:07] <titaniululz> i'm having a big problem with nx -- when i suspend a session i CANNOT resume it. i can't terminate it either later -- sessions just keep piling up. resume is greyed out, and terminate does nothing. what the hell
[04:07] <jeffrae> When I install it I get all kinds of dependency errors.. That is why I wanted to see if synaptic would get them automatically
[04:07] <haja> yes
[04:07] <TheGnome> goldenfox, i386   is an intel 386 processor
[04:07] <rob_p> MustangMatt:  Yeah, that makes sense.  Short of manually re-editing your /etc/resolv.conf (after obtaining your IP info from your router) or modifying a script, I'm unaware of a solution :-(
[04:07] <reka> kampfzerstorer: what was wrong?
[04:07] <nomasteryoda|w> click search, type eterm, uncheck
[04:07] <skalpel> does anyone here ever have trouble watching mavies on yahoo!
[04:07] <skalpel> ?
[04:07] <nomasteryoda|w> hit apply
[04:08] <TheGnome> jan-it, what is in your....../usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins directory?
[04:08] <ksmurf> How old TheGnome?
[04:08] <nomasteryoda|w> movies?
[04:08] <TheGnome> ksmurf, huh....
[04:08] <ksmurf> the intel
[04:08] <kampfzerstorer> reka: I should've been using an upper case X the entire time, >o<
[04:08] <TheGnome> ksmurf, what?
[04:08] <nomasteryoda|w> skalpel, network issues or unplayable in firefox?
[04:08] <nomasteryoda|w> kampfzerstorer, yup
[04:08] <reka> kampfzerstorer: do you have a scroll button on your mouse?
[04:09] <etker> bimberi: worked like a charm, got sshd installed and running and can connect!
[04:09] <kampfzerstorer> reka: nope
[04:09] <nomasteryoda|w> reka, LOL..
[04:09] <skalpel> nomasteryoda|w: unplayable in firefox, i think, it says i do not have the appropriate player, though i have an extension for movie files, it does not seem to work on yahoo, something to do with their website
[04:09] <nomasteryoda|w> mouse moves though... i'd bet
[04:09] <etker> man, i love ssh + bash + apt-get ... makes even guys like me able to do magic easily
[04:09] <nomasteryoda|w> skalpel, did you install the w32codecs?
[04:09] <TheGnome> skalpel, what site?
[04:09] <etker> bimberi: thanks for help
[04:09] <skalpel> i believe i have, let me check
[04:10] <reka> nomasteryoda: ?
[04:10] <Unununium> etker: I've been doing that on my home computer from work all day :^)
[04:10] <haja> ok nomasteryoda I removed eterm and develspie ... how do use the gnome terminal?
[04:10] <etker> Unununium: how do you mean ?
[04:10] <PHZN`Away> Does anyone here use kubuntu and Konversation?\
[04:10] <skalpel> TheGnome: this is what i am trying to view: http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=trailer&id=1808570527
[04:10] <nomasteryoda|w> reka, scroll button comment
[04:10] <nomasteryoda|w> helps very much and mice are cheap
[04:10] <jan-it> TheGnome:only one file is in the is directory "libflash-mozplugin.so"
[04:10] <DonL> PHZN`Away, I tried it
[04:10] <PHZN`Away> You like it?
[04:10] <reka> kampfzerstorer: i was gonna say, you can paste stuff using that button
[04:10] <skalpel> nomasteryoda|w: yes, i have them installed.
[04:10] <nomasteryoda|w> i have about 50 hanging from my home office ceiling
[04:10] <nomasteryoda|w> mice that is
[04:11] <reka> kampfzerstorer: instead of mistyping what we tell you to type :)
[04:11] <DonL> I kind of like X-Chat, but maybe It's just what I'm used to.
[04:11] <Unununium> etker: ssh to my house, ssh from computer to computer, reconnect to running GNU screen, check on my apt-get updates, etc.
[04:11] <PHZN`Away> I see.
[04:11] <kampfzerstorer> reka: yeah, gotta get a new mouse and keyboard, gonna do that very soon. Yeah sorry guys
[04:11] <goldenfox> TheGnome: is a pentium4 an i386?
[04:11] <Unununium> s/update/install/
[04:11] <halley>  - doumo arigatou, darkheart
[04:11] <ethan1> TheGnome  Fine..  I guess i'll try a different distro
[04:11] <nomasteryoda|w> skalpel, what about the mozilla-mplayer plugin
[04:11] <Unununium> hally: very nice
[04:11] <nomasteryoda|w> or gstreamer
[04:11] <deviant> "bash: ./lg3d-dev: /bin/tcsh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory" <--- what doees that means ?
[04:11] <ethan1> wich should i try?
[04:11] <reka> DonL: i like it too..easy to use....got my colours set up so exit and join messages are same as the b/g.....less clutter
[04:11] <TheGnome> goldenfox, it is an i686   but i386 stuff runs on it too
[04:12] <etker> Unununium: yeah, i forgot to mention Screen in the list there .... thats another cornerstone... sooo nice
[04:12] <ethan1> hmm
[04:12] <TheGnome> skalpel, uhhh you need realplayer for that site
[04:12] <DonL> reka, yeah. just seems to work pleasantly, if you know what I mean
[04:12] <etker> i'm gonna set up a headless ripper box based on ubuntu i think
[04:12] <etker> well, not much to set up really
[04:12] <reka> DonL: bit of a hog though
[04:12] <bimberi> etker: yw :)
[04:12] <etker> but the coolest thing is the machine i'm using ... iMac!
[04:12] <TheGnome> goldenfox, i have a p4 and installed the optimized 686 kernel : )
[04:12] <kampfzerstorer> nomasteryoda|w: thanks for your help too
[04:12] <Unununium> Still trying to figure out why apt-get update Ign's my new sources
[04:12] <DonL> reka, resources are not a problem for me
[04:13] <skalpel> TheGnome: i have realplayer installed, but it still will not play
[04:13] <jan-it> I don't get why all the usual players can't be in one package for firefox not to mention the firefox version issue for updates,, geez
[04:13] <sn0n> anyone need some html work done? im bored.. accept paypal  ;)
[04:13] <ethan1> TheGnome  What distro should i try now then? lol
[04:13] <jan-it> btw, i'm on amd64-k8 if it matters.
[04:14] <reka> TheGnome: what performance gain did you get?  5 milliseconds? :)
[04:14] <nomasteryoda|w> kampfzerstorer, np
[04:14] <TheGnome> jan-it, there is no working flash for amd i dont think
[04:14] <TheGnome> reka, not only that but it noticed i had 2 gigs of ram instead of the 700 the i386 kernel recognized
[04:14] <nomasteryoda|w> TheGnome, skalpel you can choose Quicktime format too
[04:15] <nomasteryoda|w> skalpel, check your pm
[04:15] <TheGnome> reka, so neeeeeeeeaaaaah
[04:15] <skalpel> nomasteryoda|w: alright.
[04:15] <ethan1> ijoesafewhfoei
[04:15] <reka> TheGnome: lol....guess that's a plus. :)
[04:16] <jan-it> hey, is better to just run the i386 kernel instead of the amd64?
[04:16] <TheGnome> reka, if it wernt for that i would have never done it
[04:16] <reiki_> what plays mp3 in Ubuntu and why ain't mine workin? :)
[04:16] <kampfzerstorer> Gonna reboot and hope I installed the new nvidia drivers correctly
[04:16] <Unununium> reiki: get gstreamer-mad
[04:16] <sn0n> reiki, look up gstreamer-mad
[04:16] <Unununium> Or libmad.  Or something
[04:16] <TheGnome> reiki_, what app are you trying?
[04:16] <sn0n> lol.. nevermind Unununium told you  :-X
[04:16] <jhs2> I am having issues with acpi on a Thinkpad X31
[04:16] <Unununium> Probably rhythmbox
[04:16] <reka> gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:17] <jhs2> it suspends but fails to resume correctly
[04:17] <reiki_> TheGnome: when I clicked on an mp3 it opened Totem
[04:17] <jhs2> anyone have expertise in this area?
[04:17] <sn0n> reiki, gstreamer-mad
[04:17] <reiki_> TheGnome: but Totem couldn't play the mp3... needed a.... something or other
[04:17] <jhs2> I've played with different video drivers... but it seems to be a hdd problem somehow
[04:17] <TheGnome> so gstreamer-mad will get mp3 in rythmbox?
[04:18] <sn0n> TheGnome, i believe so
[04:18] <sn0n> afaik gstreamer-mad has mp3's workingin anything ina default ubuntu
[04:18] <PHZN`Away> Hey, in kubuntu, how do I set a custom icon?
[04:18] <reka> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia
[04:18] <reka> and:
[04:18] <reka> !restricted
[04:18] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:18] <sn0n> PHZN`Away, try in #kubuntu
[04:18] <jan-it> not for me it didn't in fact only totem with the plugins for mp3 works gstream LOCKS up
[04:18] <PHZN`Away> My bad
[04:19] <TheGnome> where is gstreamer-mad?
[04:19] <jan-it> I found the plugins for Totem in the ubuntu extras
[04:19] <sn0n> TheGnome, you have universe in the repos'?
[04:19] <TheGnome> sn0n, sure do
[04:19] <TheGnome> sn0n, not there
[04:20] <sn0n> do a search for just gstreamer then
[04:20] <rob_p> MustangMatt:  You still at your PC?  I think I might have a solution for your DNS issue.
[04:20] <reka> like i said, gstreamer0.8-mad
[04:20] <alie> hi i have a ppc g3 machine on which i have installed ubuntu
[04:21] <JBLoudG20> does anyone have the leadteck winfast 2000 tv card successfully working in hoary?
[04:21] <reka> jan-it: gstreamer/totem issues can be resolved by installing totem-xine
[04:21] <jan-it> mine shows gstreamer0.8.mad in synaptics
[04:22] <jan-it> reka:i tried that too, but where does it install too, don't see it in any menus??
[04:22] <jmcnaught> does anybody have experience getting ubuntu installed w/ ndiswrapper for the wireless card on a computer that doesn't even have ethernet?  any suggestions?
[04:22] <Unununium> apt-get update fails with all my -backports and -extras sources: "Ign http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-backports Release.gpg"  Why?
[04:22] <alie> i am getting an error on starting X server "there was a problem activating bonobo activation server The error code is 3 the panel will now exit
[04:22] <reka> jan-it: it replaces the default totem with the gstreamer backend
[04:22] <JBLoudG20> ive tried installing tv time, but the program wont open
[04:22] <jan-it> okay, then that is what I am using thanks.
[04:23] <alie> second error there was an error starting GNome setting daemon
[04:23] <TheGnome> there it is
[04:23] <Unununium> JBLoudG20: tvtime is nice
[04:23] <reka> Unununium: what are the urls for bp and extras in sources.list?
[04:23] <JBLoudG20> not when its not working
[04:23] <Unununium> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:23] <Unununium> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:24] <TheGnome> thanks guys rythmbox now works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:24] <desrt> s/!+/!/
[04:24] <jan-it> where in gui do you edit GRUB menu, not from command like in mandriva?
[04:24] <Unununium> desrt: heh
[04:24] <alie> third error nautilius cannot be used now because of unexpected error from bonobo when
[04:24] <desrt> Unununium; (:
[04:24] <Unununium> jan-it: I don't know, but it's easy to just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst by hand
[04:24] <ukjohnd> !apt-move
[04:24] <ubotu> ukjohnd: Not a clue
[04:24] <ukjohnd> !apt-move
[04:24] <black13> what does UDF-fs: No partition found (1) mean
[04:24] <alie> when attempting to locate the factory
[04:24] <ukjohnd> !apt
[04:24] <ubotu> I guess apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[04:24] <Unununium> desrt: wn!ununun
[04:25] <halley> jan-it, gedit?  ;)
[04:25] <TheGnome> wait i lied
[04:25] <TheGnome> i dont work
[04:25] <ukjohnd> !move
[04:25] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, ukjohnd
[04:25] <reka> Unununium: they seem ok....and you've done an apt-get update?
[04:25] <titaniululz> i'm getting an error whenever i log in with nx about "error activating xkb configuration" -- how can i fix this?
[04:25] <PHZN`Away> !mysql
[04:25] <ubotu> mysql is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:25] <Unununium> reka: I'm trying to do so, byt apt-get update Ign's every -extra and -backport
[04:25] <justdave> is there any way to get trackpad support on a 15" Powerbook in Ubuntu or does that not work at all yet?
[04:25] <Unununium> err, -backports
[04:25] <reka> oh, stupid question :)
[04:25] <jan-it> Unununium, i found it in text but had no clue what to do with it, i need to change my defualt boot up
[04:26] <jhs2> is there a better place to go for ubuntu linux support?
[04:26] <Unununium> What do you want to change to?
[04:26] <ukjohnd> apols new to IRC was trying to use Uboto bot
[04:26] <Unununium> jhs2: try the wiki
[04:26] <alie>  hi i have a ppc g3 machine on which i have installed ubuntu i am getting an error on starting X server "there was a problem activating bonobo activation server The error code is 3 the panel will now exit second error there was an error starting GNome setting daemon third error nautilius cannot be used now because of unexpected error from bonobo when when attempting to locate the factory
[04:26] <TheGnome> Could not open resource for writing Could not pause playback ....are the errors i get when trying to play mp3 in rythmbox
[04:26] <jhs2> Unununium : to leave a request?
[04:26] <JBLoudG20> any help wioht my tv turner
[04:26] <jhs2> I've been over the wiki pretty extensivley
[04:26] <Unununium> jhs2: no, to see if your question has already been answered
[04:26] <jan-it> Uunun:need to have winblows boot by defualt and wait state to 15
[04:26] <jhs2> oh, yes I'm pretty sure it has not
[04:26] <Unununium> jan-it change the "default" line
[04:27] <jhs2> I Scanned the wiki and the laptop support forums
[04:27] <jmcnaught> alie: did you buy the laptop today for $50?
[04:27] <alie> hahahah
[04:27] <alie> this is in my college
[04:27] <alie> capsule pc ;)
[04:27] <alie> jmcnaught ppc g3 i guess
[04:27] <alie> never used but just trying to install ubuntu to make it usable
[04:28] <alie> there are about 20 in my colleg
[04:28] <alie> college
[04:28] <Unununium> JBLoudG20: do you see video in the Multimedia Systems Selector?
[04:28] <jmcnaught> alie: just curious.. slashdot reported a riot in virginia because the the gov't was selling 1000 g3's for $50
[04:28] <Unununium> System > Preferences > MSS
[04:28] <Unununium> jmcnaught: I just saw it on the television news
[04:28] <alie> no i m in malaysia
[04:28] <Deep6> has anyone got dual display working?
[04:28] <Unununium> Deep6: I have triple-head working
[04:28] <Deep6> I need help with a card that has a vga and a dvi out
[04:28] <Unununium> I manually edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:28] <TheGnome> yup switched from esd to alsa and now it works
[04:28] <Deep6> Unununium, can I get some hepl?
[04:29] <Unununium> Want my file?
[04:29] <TheGnome> thanks
[04:29] <Deep6> er help rather?
[04:29] <Deep6> Unununium, sure that'd be a good start
[04:29] <alie> can can one help me configure it ?
[04:29] <jmcnaught> alie: i've only installed to a ppc once and everything worked fine.  might it have a hardware issue?  does it do the same thing every time you boot up?
[04:29] <Deep6> what kind of card do you have
[04:29] <IcemanV9> jmcnaught: is that right?! w0w. $50 bucks for g3 box. dang.
[04:29] <Deep6> or do you have 3 cards?
[04:29] <alie> i have installed ubuntu i am getting an error on starting X server "there was a problem activating bonobo activation server The error code is 3 the panel will now exit second error there was an error starting GNome setting daemon third error nautilius cannot be used now because of unexpected error from bonobo when when attempting to locate the factory
[04:29] <jmcnaught> Iceman: an old man got trampled, so did a mother with her stroller
[04:30] <JBLoudG20> yes I see video in the multimedia systems selector
[04:30] <Deep6> Unununium, firewall?
[04:30] <Kyral> Can I have GCC 3.4 and GCC 4 along side each other?
[04:30] <Unununium> Deep6: probably; I'll upload to my Web site
[04:30] <jmcnaught> i'm installing hoary under qemu (with the kernel accelerator) right now, just for kicks
[04:30] <Deep6> k
[04:31] <Brunellus> firefox isn't downloading torrents for me for some reason
[04:31] <Unununium> http://ioioio.net/xorg.conf
[04:31] <reka> alie: search for bonobo topics in the forum while you wait
[04:31] <IcemanV9> jmcnaught: if i knew about it, i would be there already getting 5 of them
[04:31] <Deep6> Unununium, do you have 3 separate cards or are you using a single card?
[04:31] <Unununium> Two cards, one of which is dual-head
[04:31] <Unununium> All old
[04:31] <alie> ok
[04:31] <Deep6> ahh is the dual head card an nvidia based one?
[04:31] <Brunellus> in fact, firefox won't download things at all from a left-click
[04:31] <Unununium> I have an ATI and an nVidia in there
[04:31] <jmcnaught> IcemanV9: there was a guy beating people down with a lawn chair.. he got 3.  you'd have probably needed a bat or something.
[04:32] <Unununium> They don't fight much
[04:32] <Brunellus> anybody ahve any ideas?
[04:32] <Deep6> I can't reach your website either :(
[04:32] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: it doesn't do anything?  or does it give an error
[04:32] <Deep6> ping www.ioioio.net
[04:32] <Deep6> PING www.ioioio.net (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[04:32] <Unununium> Why are you pinging my Web server?
[04:32] <Brunellus> jmcnaught:  it doesn't do *anything*
[04:32] <JBLoudG20> Unununium, I see video the the selector
[04:32] <Brunellus> no errors, nothing.
[04:32] <Brunellus> I can right-click and download that way
[04:33] <Deep6> can't connect to it Unununium
[04:33] <Brunellus> but it's bizarre that I can't left-click download...
[04:33] <Unununium> Deep6: use TCP not ICMP to connect
[04:33] <jeffrae> mplayerplug-in buffers then sits and does nothing
[04:33] <Deep6> uh.... Unununium I know :)
[04:33] <jeffrae> has anyone seen this?
[04:33] <Deep6> but I think there's a path issue
[04:33] <Deep6> I can't see your website period
[04:33] <Unununium> Deep6: I just scp'ed to it; I don't see why there would be a problem
[04:33] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: maybe it's configured to download to a different directory?  is this with all files or just torrents?
[04:33] <Unununium> No, it's not inside my house
[04:34] <Brunellus> all files.
[04:34] <james> can eclipse be installed via apt-get?
[04:34] <Unununium> Don't see why not
[04:34] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: do files normally go to your desktop?  maybe they're in your home?
[04:34] <nomasteryoda|w> jeffrae, mozilla-mplayer plugin?
[04:34] <james> how can I find out it's package name?
[04:34] <jeffrae> yes
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> what stream?
[04:35] <nomasteryoda|w> url?
[04:35] <jeffrae> I found some info on ubuntu forumnsand so on
[04:35] <jeffrae> every stream I have tried
[04:35] <Brunellus> Mcnaught:  it doesn't even open a "file download" window
[04:35] <jeffrae> I end up downloading it and opining mplayer standalone
[04:35] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: what extensions do you have installed?
[04:36] <nomasteryoda|w> jeffrae, you should not have to ... just got my realplayer going for a stream while working with skalpel
[04:36] <jeffrae> cool
[04:36] <nomasteryoda|w> though I have been able to play trailers with np
[04:36] <Brunellus> nothing but an English-GB language pack
[04:36] <nomasteryoda|w> via apple.com
[04:36] <bimberi> james: I'm pretty sure it isn't available in the repositories however there is this ...
[04:36] <bimberi> !eclipse
[04:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, eclipse is to install eclipse please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[04:36] <PHZN`Away> What is the command to remove a directory?
[04:36] <PHZN`Away> that has things in it.
[04:36] <halley> rmdir
[04:36] <jeffrae> really
[04:36] <halley> rm -r
[04:37] <james> thank you bimberi
[04:37] <jmcnaught> Brunellus; sorry, i'm just as puzzled as you are
[04:37] <JBLoudG20> im so suick of trying to get all this linux crap working
[04:38] <Brunellus> I've isolated it to just firefox, though
[04:38] <black13> what does UDF-fs: No partition found (1) mean
[04:38] <Brunellus> epiphany downloads everything just fine
[04:38] <Unununium> black13: probably something to do with CD-RW's
[04:38] <bimberi> james: yw :)
[04:38] <Brunellus> (although I then have to open the torrents with gnome-bittorrent locally)
[04:38] <titanium> does anyone know how to get freenx to work in ubuntu so that i can actually suspend and resume sessions? right now if i suspend a session it's gone forever and can't be resumed
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> !udf
[04:38] <ubotu> nomasteryoda|w: I don't know
[04:38] <Brunellus> bug report time, maybe?
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> !cdburning
[04:38] <ubotu> I don't know, nomasteryoda|w
[04:38] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: have you tried it as a different user?
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> !cd-rw
[04:38] <ubotu> nomasteryoda|w: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:38] <nomasteryoda|w> hehe
[04:39] <Brunellus> jmcnaught:  I don't see why.  This is the only user account on this machine
[04:39] <Brunellus> other than sudo
[04:39] <Unununium> sudo isn't a user; you're thinking of root
[04:39] <Brunellus> that's right
[04:39] <Brunellus> I don't have root enabled
[04:39] <Unununium> There are dozens of behind-the-scenes accounts
[04:39] <Brunellus> mmm.
[04:39] <Unununium> You mean, it's not available for login.  But trust me; root is a very busy user
[04:39] <jmcnaught> ,Brun: if it works as a different user, i would suggest backing up your bookmarks.html and erasing firefox's hidden folder
[04:39] <Unununium> Get a process list and see for yourself
[04:39] <black13> Unununium what kind of file system is that?
[04:40] <Unununium> black13: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A//www.webopedia.com/TERM/U/UDF.html&ei=iaMCQ8aTFsHy4AHUhoka
[04:40] <Unununium> OOps
[04:40] <Unununium> Well, that link will work
[04:40] <Brunellus> jmcnaught:  well I'll be
[04:40] <Brunellus> sudo mozilla and it works just fine
[04:41] <PHZN`Away> Alright, so I'm trying to install MySQL,  but it says I alreday have a server running, what do I do?
[04:41] <black13> i though the cds where iso9660
[04:41] <Brunellus> so what do I do now, rm ~/.mozilla
[04:41] <Brunellus> ?
[04:41] <halley> What's a useful apt search for media codecs?
[04:41] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: it's a problem with your firefox settings for your user account
[04:41] <Brunellus> jmcnaught:  is there any way to change those short of deleting /.mozilla
[04:42] <jdub> yo herzi
[04:42] <Unununium> Any clues on my -backports/-extras problem?
[04:42] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: make sure to copy bookmarks.html to a different folder and then 'rm -rf .mozilla'
[04:42] <bur[n] er> anyone know why a fresh install of hoary would load gdm fine, but then freeze on starting gnome?
[04:42] <reka> halley: sound or video?
[04:42] <Unununium> (sorry if it hasn't already been answered)
[04:42] <bur[n] er> the icons in teh splash screen don't even show
[04:42] <Unununium> s/hasn't/has/
[04:42] <halley> reka, both?
[04:42] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: probably, but you'd have to find the setting that got changed, look around in preferences
[04:42] <dylan_> Seveas, how do i CD to a directory that has spaces in it, for example cd /home/user/The Folder With Spaces/   ?
[04:42] <reka> halley: what player do you want to use? :)
[04:43] <herzi> hey jdub
[04:43] <bur[n] er> dylan_: use \ before the space
[04:43] <halley> dylan_, cd /home/user/the\ fol<tab>
[04:43] <bimberi> dylan_: The\ Folder\ With\ Spaces
[04:43] <jmcnaught> Brunellus; deleting the .mozilla folder will restore all the firefox defaults for your user account
[04:43] <reka> dylan_: use tab completion, otherwise you need to use the escape character
[04:43] <halley> reka, totem/xine is fine for now.
[04:43] <Unununium> Or use ' or " to quote the string
[04:43] <dylan_> reka and everyone:  thanks
[04:43] <bimberi> ooh - i like halley's answer :)
[04:43] <Brunellus> ok.  and firefox will regenerate a ~/.mozilla when I run firefox again?
[04:43] <speel> hey some help.. i see a book called dive into python is installed ..where would i find it
[04:44] <bur[n] er> Brunellus: yes
[04:44] <jmcnaught> Brunellus: yes
[04:44] <reka> halley: install totem-xine, gstreamer0.8-mad (for mp3 support) and w32codecs (from backports for video support)
[04:44] <herzi> speel: dpkg -L package-name
[04:44] <reka> halley: totem should play everything with that now.
[04:44] <mustard> nick Dude
[04:44] <reka> s/now/after you do that :)
[04:44] <Unununium> mustard: nothing happens.
[04:44] <speel> thanks
[04:44] <herzi> speel: probably /usr/share/doc/div-into...
[04:44] <speel> yea its in /usr/share/doc
[04:44] <Kyral> anyone get NVidia Hardware Accel to work on Breezy?
[04:45] <halley> reka, could you /msg me the deb lines for backports?
[04:45] <jmcnaught> am i not using nick completion correctly in X-Chat?  i have it turned on, and i type ,<nick> and it doesn't work?
[04:45] <Brunellus> dylan_:  not necessarily
[04:45] <Brunellus> but you don't really need 'latest versions'....
[04:45] <Brunellus> just ask the guys who are running Debian Stable!
[04:45] <reka> halley: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[04:45] <Unununium> I wish that would work for me...
[04:45] <dylan_> Brunellus, i mean like Vista needs A LOT of stuff.  Will Breezy and whatever is after that need tough hardware?
[04:45] <halley> jmcna<tab>
[04:45] <speel> jmcnaught:>> i usually just press tab
[04:45] <Unununium> jmcna<tab>: it doesn't work as expected
[04:45] <reka> jmcnaught: nick completion means you use tab to auto complete iirc
[04:45] <Brunellus> dylan:  no
[04:46] <halley> reka, thanks.
[04:46] <jmcnaught> oh, i get it now
[04:46] <dylan_> Brunellus, im running a 2.2ghz amd athlon xp processor with 1gb ram and 64mb video, how long will i be good for
[04:46] <jmcnaught> i haven't used IRC since i was a teenager
[04:46] <Brunellus> dylan_:  indefinitely....provided you pick your software carefully
[04:46] <reka> halley: oh, and for dvd support, there's libdvdcss2, also in bp
[04:46] <jmcnaught> dylan_, you'll always be able to do whatever you do now on it
[04:46] <dylan_> Brunellus, define indefinitely
[04:46] <Brunellus> my last computer was a celeron 800 with 256 MB RAM
[04:46] <Brunellus> as in, like 5 years old...
[04:46] <Brunellus> and that ran Hoary pretty well
[04:46] <Unununium> Using a 366MHz Deceleron right now
[04:46] <PurpleMotion> I wonder if i could actually sell my kids on the black market? is there really a market for bad ass kids?
[04:46] <Unununium> Check ebay
[04:47] <dylan_> Brunellus, did you upgrade?
[04:47] <Brunellus> the box or the OS?
[04:47] <reka> jmcnaught: as in, the "hey what's up? a/s/l" stage? :D
[04:47] <halley> jmcnaught, you fancy kids and yer eye-are-see.  We had to telnet and kermit four hops to get through the bang notation just to download emacs from edu!mit!ai!prep, and we LIKED IT.
[04:47] <Brunellus> yay telnet.
[04:47] <Unununium> TCP is for wimps
[04:47] <Brunellus> the best way to get email for me back in college was telnetting to the email server & just using PINE...
[04:48] <Brunellus> quick & efficient.
[04:48] <jmcnaught> reka: no, i was one of those leet kids using bitchx taking over #greenday and #teensex on efnet
[04:48] <PurpleMotion> reka:  BAH! It used to take me three days to get an email to paris. Ph34r f1d0n3t
[04:48] <Unununium> That's kind of what I do now, except replace telnet with ssh and pine with mutt
[04:48] <lespinoza> hola
[04:48] <thilo> Hi folks. Question#1: How can I add links/programs to the Gnome-Applications-Panel ?
[04:48] <reka> PurpleMotion: people buy toast that looks like holy figures...there's a market for everything :)
[04:48] <Brunellus> my buddy used to ssh back to his own computer and use lynx to surf for soccer scores
[04:48] <dylan_> jmcnaught, are you sure about my hardware?
[04:48] <Brunellus> (this on computers that had nothing but terminal emulators on 'em.)
[04:48] <jmcnaught> PurpleMotion, i know a guy that tried to sell his infant twins for a meth lab
[04:48] <PurpleMotion> jmcnaught:  I remember when IRC channels were numbered. no names.
[04:48] <Brunellus> dylan_:  your hardware is good.
[04:48] <Brunellus> in fact, you're a little ahead of the curve
[04:49] <Unununium> #111
[04:49] <Unununium> My nick is numbered
[04:49] <halley> reka, that line you gave was all one line, right?  or one per keyword at the end?
[04:49] <jmcnaught> dylan_, you might not be able to use newer software on it 10 years from now, but it'll always do what it does now, and run what it runs now
[04:49] <dylan_> Brunellus, cause i could not use Fedora
[04:49] <halley> Unununium, right next to Unobtanium.
[04:49] <jmcnaught> dylan_, and there's always xfce and icewm!
[04:49] <reka> halley: 1 one line....can also check this:
[04:49] <reka> !repos
[04:49] <ubotu> it has been said that repos is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[04:49] <Brunellus> why couldn't you use fedora?
[04:49] <Unununium> ubunununtu
[04:49] <dylan_> jmcnaught, but by that time in 10 years i would have already switched to a new pc
[04:49] <dylan_> Brunellus, i could not use fedora cause it would not allow 3d accel
[04:49] <halley> reka, hm, search w32codecs gives ''
[04:49] <OraE> alibaba and 40 thiefs
[04:49] <brer_rabbit> fedora is either got a serious security hole or a very bad glitch
[04:49] <dylan_> Brunellus, i have a VIA graphics processor
[04:49] <nomasteryoda> skalpel,
[04:50] <OraE> heeeeelo
[04:50] <Brunellus> ah.
[04:50] <nomasteryoda> k you still here
[04:50] <PurpleMotion> this spit is bananas, b a n a n a s (THIS SPIT IS BANANAS, B A N A N A S)
[04:50] <PurpleMotion> (don't ask)
[04:50] <thilo> has sbd experienced problems with ALSA?
[04:50] <reka> !w32codecs
[04:50] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is set of codecs needed to play common audio/video formats (wmv etc). You can install w32codecs from the hoary-extras repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org).  AMD64? See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[04:50] <Brunellus> for hardware acceleration, it's pretty much nvidia or owt.
[04:50] <Unununium> reka: your nick reminds me of rpgworld
[04:50] <titanium> anyone experienced with freenx refusing to resume sessions? >:(
[04:50] <reka> halley: my mistake....hoary-extras :)
[04:50] <IcemanV9> is it possible to use win key + other key (shortcut command)??
[04:50] <reka> halley: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[04:50] <jmcnaught> PurpleMotion, i remember sending my first email through some sort of a mail proxy that i didn't understand on a BBS... there aren't any of those around here anymore
[04:51] <reka> halley: good idea to comment those out after you get the multimedia packages you need
[04:51] <Brunellus> and whoever just posted hollaback girl should be dragged out into the street and shot
[04:51] <reka> Unununium: you'll have to explain that :)
[04:51] <PurpleMotion> !restricted
[04:51] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:51] <Unununium> http://www.rpgworldcomic.com./ she's a (dead) character
[04:51] <jmcnaught> dylan_, the computer you described will be able to run the latest linux for several years
[04:51] <Unununium> (sorry to give it away)
[04:51] <thilo> @iceman: good question, waiting for answers
[04:51] <dylan_> jmcnaught, thanks
[04:52] <reka> Brunellus: which is why i don't listen to commerical radio
[04:52] <TheGnome> hello again
[04:52] <reka> Unununium: oh, ok :)
[04:52] <garyc> i got a samba question
[04:52] <brer_rabbit> the extras repo Ive seen associated with what uboto has revealed will not update they all say failed so what is there another one?
[04:52] <PurpleMotion> why can't i append a blurt on ubotu? I was going to append w32codecs to also point people to the restricted formats wiki
[04:52] <brer_rabbit> ewww gadzooks
[04:52] <halley> reka:  (sudo apt-get install w32codecs libdvdcss2 gstreamer0.8-mad) working...
[04:52] <TheGnome> brer_rabbit, did you sudo apt-get update
[04:52] <reka> PurpleMotion: can't append afaik
[04:52] <brer_rabbit> thats gotta be some nasty varnish there thegnome
[04:53] <brer_rabbit> yes thegnome
[04:53] <brer_rabbit> lol
[04:53] <halley> reka, anything else I'm missing for dvd, etc?
[04:53] <rickity> i have a question about using "dd" to backup my linux install...given two drives of the same make/model/capacity..can I simply clone my system by "dd"ing the whole linux drive to the backup drive?
[04:53] <dylan_> brer_rabbit, will gnome 2.12 be aweomse?
[04:53] <Unununium> andy_: Hi, what are you doing using my name?
[04:53] <jmcnaught> haha, installing ubuntu on kqemu wasted half my battery in 30 minutes
[04:53] <reka> halley: should be set :)
[04:53] <brer_rabbit> uh well I guess
[04:53] <brer_rabbit> 2.10 is pretty good
[04:53] <PurpleMotion> !w32codecs
[04:53] <reka> halley: remember to get totem-xine
[04:53] <dylan_> brer_rabbit, agreed
[04:53] <bimberi> dylan_: http://gnome.org/~davyd/gnome-2-12/
[04:53] <dylan_> bimberi, tanx
[04:54] <PurpleMotion> there we go
[04:54] <garyc> I want to share a folder with windows machines on my network
[04:54] <bimberi> dylan_: yvw :)
[04:54] <andy_> Unununium, can't help my name is andy huh:p my parents named me that way...
[04:54] <garyc> I want to share a folder with windows machines on my network can anyone help
[04:54] <Unununium> yeah, and as we talked earlier, my last name is Goth because that's what my parents decided
[04:55] <skalpel> nomasteryoda: yes, i am here, why?
[04:55] <halley> reka, I think that was installed by default; a dvd popped up totem movie player, but I think it's thinking about the css now...
[04:55] <dylan_> will gnome 2.12 fix all the rhythmbox shittiness or will they finally make the wise decision and switch to xmms?
[04:55] <andy_> whatever
[04:55] <skalpel> nomasteryoda: i really like your nickname by the way
[04:55] <dfeed_> Ununium: A. Goth?
[04:55] <Unununium> rhythmbox ate all my RAM when I tried adding my music collection
[04:55] <PurpleMotion> garyc:  watch ubotu
[04:55] <PurpleMotion> !samba
[04:55] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba
[04:55] <Unununium> dfeed: yes
[04:55] <bimberi> garyc: system -> administration -> shared folders (install samba if required)
[04:55] <Brunellus> dylan_: xmms is deprecated...
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> skalpel, thanks
[04:55] <reka> dylan_: xmms?!  please!  bmp at least
[04:55] <Brunellus> use beep media player
[04:55] <garyc> i have samba
[04:56] <Unununium> cat to /dev/dsp
[04:56] <Brunellus> xmms is a nice thing to have, though
[04:56] <garyc> i shared a folder
[04:56] <dylan_> reka, bmp is weak
[04:56] <TheGnome> i like rythmbox
[04:56] <rickity> anyone ever use "dd" to clone a drive?
[04:56] <dylan_> i cannot jump to a time
[04:56] <Ronan> When I download stuff for Ubtuntu, Do I chose "debian" on the list?
[04:56] <jmcnaught> ryhthmbox has trouble adding folders to the library if they have any unsupported files (ie. album covers)
[04:56] <Brunellus> but it's officially deprecated.
[04:56] <reka> dylan_: i think they like the wmp type interface
[04:56] <Unununium> rickity: yes, a floppy
[04:56] <TheGnome> i like xmms better than beep too
[04:56] <Quest-Master> Rhyhmbox is nice, but.. foobar2000 is still the best
[04:56] <rickity> I have two drives that are presumably identical
[04:56] <PurpleMotion> rickity:  no, but it seems like it would be pretty straightforward
[04:56] <rickity> make /model /capacity
[04:56] <jmcnaught> amarok is pretty good
[04:56] <garyc> my windows machine asks for a user/password
[04:56] <dylan_> reka, why cant i jump to a certain time in bmp?
[04:56] <TheGnome> foobar2000?
[04:56] <Unununium> snackamp?
[04:56] <rickity> can i just dd /dev/src /dev/backup?
[04:56] <Ronan> When I download stuff for Ubtuntu, Do I chose "debian" on the list?
[04:56] <TheGnome> totem-xine kicks ass
[04:57] <Unununium> rickity: why not use cp?
[04:57] <garyc> tried making new users no help
[04:57] <Unununium> Wait, that won't work for "special" files (dev nodes, etc.)
[04:57] <reka> dylan_: i don't know, but i can fine, so it must be something to do with your sound setup
[04:57] <rickity> Unununium, cuz I want a verbatim clone ..down to the partition table
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> skalpel,
[04:57] <dylan_> reka, what do i do to jump to time?
[04:57] <rickity> Unununium, zero recovery effort
[04:57] <Concord_Dawn> Ronan, what do you mean?
[04:57] <TheGnome> dylan_, try a different song
[04:57] <brer_rabbit> exit
[04:57] <andy_> Ronan, what should you download? use apt-get
[04:57] <Unununium> rickity: Yes, you can do it, but are you sure the disks have the same capacity?
[04:57] <brer_rabbit> dang
[04:57] <supernix> has everyone took proper precautions to avoid the worm going round ?
[04:57] <brer_rabbit> lol
[04:57] <brer_rabbit> what worm is it now?
[04:57] <Concord_Dawn> supernix, what worm?
[04:57] <TheGnome> dylan_, some songs just wont let you
[04:57] <james> is eclipse in repos?
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> skalpel, you there ?
[04:58] <Ronan> When I download stuff for Ubtuntu, Do I chose "debian" on the list?
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> sorry
[04:58] <dylan_> TheGnome, under XMMS i can for any song
[04:58] <brer_rabbit> a version of the redworm?
[04:58] <supernix> Don't know the name but it hit CNN today and took them down
[04:58] <garyc> I want to share a folder with windows machines on my network
[04:58] <Gatton> bwahaha
[04:58] <rickity> Unununium, yes..they do...wut I don't understand is how does dd handle things like bad blocks? ..or is that so low level its not a concern for "dd"?
[04:58] <brer_rabbit> oh you mean the winworm
[04:58] <brer_rabbit> lol
[04:58] <reka> TheGnome: really? i can jump with any song
[04:58] <andy_> Ronan, when you ask questions, do you read the answers?
[04:58] <concept10> supernix, it was a windows worm
[04:58] <brer_rabbit> I run linux
[04:58] <halley> garyc, someone pointed you to a URL from ubotu about Samba.
[04:58] <Unununium> rickity: you have bad blocks??
[04:58] <Concord_Dawn> Ronan, try looking to see if it's in Synaptic.
[04:58] <TheGnome> dylan_, just try a diff song for shits and giggles
[04:58] <andy_> btw yes ubuntu is debian based
[04:58] <Gatton> brer_rabbit, you run LInux? What distro? ;))
[04:58] <Concord_Dawn> If it's not, try looking for a Ubuntu version, if there isn't, Debian should do.
[04:58] <reka> dylan_: i'm not a sound guru, but what output plugin are you using?
[04:58] <dylan_> TheGnome, in xmms i can still jump to any time
[04:58] <bimberi> garyc: so you did "sudo  smbpasswd -a <username>"
[04:58] <rickity> Unununium, don't most disks?
[04:58] <brer_rabbit> concept10, my fedora fkd up on me today just like it did two weeks ago
[04:58] <TheGnome> reka, me too..............but i have had soem songs in the past
[04:58] <dylan_> reka, i dont know
[04:58] <Ronan> Thanks
[04:58] <dylan_> reka, alsa prolly
[04:58] <rickity> Unununium, they just get masked out
[04:59] <brer_rabbit> so its gone and I doubt if i will be returning to fedora
[04:59] <brer_rabbit> ever
[04:59] <Unununium> rickity: Well, if the hard disk hardware masks 'em, you won't know about it
[04:59] <reka> dylan_: check in prefs
[04:59] <TheGnome> dylan_, set up beep to use alsa
[04:59] <ANYA> hi
[04:59] <Unununium> So long as the OS doesn't have any trouble, dd will work for you
[04:59] <ANYA> hi
[04:59] <dylan_> TheGnome, that will work?
[04:59] <concept10> heh, brer_rabbit ?
[04:59] <rickity> Unununium, true...but i'm not sure at what level that's occurring...
[04:59] <Unununium> If you're worried, get dd-rescue
[04:59] <halley> ANYA, life is too short for 'hi' - ask your questions.
[04:59] <reka> TheGnome: interesting....i can't however, pause playback :)
[04:59] <iiiears> rickity - dd - can be configured to ignore a small number of errors. ddrescue is what you need to make a good copy of anything with a lot of errors. - CDs / protected
[04:59] <ANYA> hi
[04:59] <TheGnome> dylan_, it might
[04:59] <dylan_> TheGnome, what i really want is the best gnome friendly music and video players
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> heyya Omnifrog
[04:59] <dylan_> TheGnome, any suggestions?
[04:59] <concept10> f_newton, you reinstalled Ubuntu?
[05:00] <nomasteryoda> sorry been busy here
[05:00] <nomasteryoda> =)
[05:00] <rickity> so the answer is yes then..as long as the backup disk is >=capacity of the source drive, "dd" will make a usable clone of the drive?
[05:00] <Concord_Dawn> dylan_, XMMS and Rythymbox.
[05:00] <garyc> bimberi how do I do that
[05:00] <Omnifrog> hay nomasteryoda!!
[05:00] <TheGnome> dylan_, i like the default ubuntu music player
[05:00] <dylan_> TheGnome, it is buggy
[05:00] <TheGnome> rythmbox
[05:00] <jmcnaught> is there a way to install the dev packages for every library i have installed?
[05:00] <halley> It's channels like this, I remember why I wrote the xchat auto-ignore-for-X-time script.  :)
[05:00] <bimberi> garyc: in a terminal window
[05:00] <reka> halley: everything working?
[05:00] <Unununium> Why do you need dev for all?
[05:00] <dylan_> TheGnome, rhythmbox will not let me jump or scroll to different times either without skipping the whole song
[05:00] <ANYA> hi
[05:00] <TheGnome> dylan_, buggy.........hmm not for me
[05:00] <bur[n] er> dylan_: beep-media-player
[05:00] <Concord_Dawn> jmcnaught, write a script :)
[05:00] <TheGnome> beep sucks
[05:00] <Concord_Dawn> or
[05:00] <concept10> jmcnaught, filter devel in synaptic and install all of those packages
[05:00] <Concord_Dawn> try doing apt-get install *-dev
[05:00] <bur[n] er> beep sucks?
[05:00] <iiiears> rickity - yes it will make a good copy. - tho it copies -everything- even empty blocks
[05:00] <PurpleMotion> why is it my key repeat stops working once in a while?
[05:00] <dylan_> TheGnome, did you get my last message
[05:00] <halley> reka, totem still chewing on a DVD, gonna break it and see what's wrong.
[05:00] <garyc> can we get away from this traffic
[05:01] <PurpleMotion> brb
[05:01] <bur[n] er> rhythmbox .9 is really cool
[05:01] <TheGnome> dylan_, yeah it deff dont do that for me
[05:01] <Ronan> Which Ubuntuu should I download? The Hoary Hedgehog?
[05:01] <dylan_> TheGnome, why?
[05:01] <reka> halley: as in slow playback?
[05:01] <jmcnaught> Unununium, so next time i compile something i don't have to keep apt-getting stuff that ./configure chokes on
[05:01] <dylan_> Ronan, yes
[05:01] <TheGnome> Ronan, yes
[05:01] <rickity> iiiears, so is my strategy sound?  I have two drives ..same make model capacity...possibly only differing by whatever bad blocks the disks had off the assembly line..
[05:01] <Ronan> Thanks :)
[05:01] <dylan_> Ronan, no prob dude
[05:01] <Ronan> :D
[05:01] <iiiears> rickity - partimage?
[05:01] <TheGnome> dylan_, why what?
[05:01] <halley> reka, as in unresponsive once I ask it to play a disc.
[05:01] <dylan_> TheGnome, why doesnt it do that to you?
[05:01] <rickity> iiiears, is that superior to dd?
[05:01] <ANYA> hi
[05:01] <ANYA> hi
[05:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Hi
[05:02] <dylan_> TheGnome, can you scroll through the time of a song?
[05:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Does Anyone here still use Dialup
[05:02] <TheGnome> dylan_, let me see............yup
[05:02] <Unununium> That's funny.  oooqs-kde is in -extras or -backports (not sure which), but I don't have the gnome version
[05:02] <iiiears> it was made for cloning - or copying an image to a compressed file.
[05:02] <jmcnaught> Concord_Dawn, heh.. i wish i could.  the last time i wrote anything was in pascal 10 years ago
[05:02] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Like in particularly, Linuxant Drivers
[05:02] <garyc> bimberi traffic too much for me is there a way to talk one on one
[05:02] <rickity> iiiears, it seems dd would give me my boot, swap and all other partitions in one fell swoop...no?
[05:02] <Concord_Dawn> lol
[05:02] <dylan_> TheGnome, does it have anything to do with my sound?
[05:02] <TheGnome> dylan_, did you swtich your multimedia selector to alsa
[05:02] <dylan_> TheGnome, i dont know how
[05:02] <dylan_> TheGnome, me = noob
[05:02] <bimberi> garyc: sure - "/query bimberi" in your irc client
[05:02] <iiiears> rickity - nah you also need sfdisk to copy the bootsector
[05:03] <Unununium> Ah, it's named differently: ooqstart-gnome
[05:03] <rob_p> MustangMatt:  You still around for a quick question?
[05:03] <halley> reka, ah, totem-xine wasn't actually installed; it removes totem-gstreamer to do it, though?
[05:03] <TheGnome> System>prefs>multimedia selector> choose alsa
[05:03] <rickity> iiiears, true!  I'll do that separately
[05:03] <dylan_> TheGnome, thanks
[05:03] <TheGnome> totem-xine should be default
[05:03] <iiiears> dd will do it i suppose but i always read about sfdisk as a seperate step.
[05:03] <titanium> i'm trying to use kanotix.com as a repository but getting the following error; what can i do? i need a new version of freenx that is only available here.
[05:03] <titanium> W: GPG error: http://kanotix.com ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY FB1A399A71409CDF
[05:03] <titanium> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:03] <dylan_> TheGnome, lemme test now
[05:03] <reka> halley: correct
[05:04] <TheGnome> titanium, READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:04] <Biscuitian_Warhe> How do I set up ESD on ubuntu
[05:04] <halley> reka, playing disc now, checking audio in a sec.
[05:04] <dylan_> TheGnome, must i log out
[05:04] <rickity> iiiears, it seems like it should work...I just wanted to make sure I understood how the handling of bad blocks off the assembly line doesn't interfere with that strategy of cloning
[05:04] <Biscuitian_Warhe> And how do i configure the volume manager
[05:04] <dylan_> TheGnome, its still acting ip
[05:04] <Unununium> Biscuitian_Warhe: I thought it was installed by default
[05:04] <dylan_> TheGnome, up*
[05:04] <Biscuitian_Warhe> But how do i configure it
[05:04] <titanium> TheGnome: read what? i did apt-get update and it gives me the same error and tells me to apt-get update again
[05:04] <TheGnome> dylan_, that sucks mine works flawless
[05:05] <Unununium> worm: http://www.achewood.com./index.php?date=05172004
[05:05] <iiiears> another app worth a look is "mondo" rescue
[05:05] <TheGnome> titanium, the keyring
[05:05] <dylan_> TheGnome, do i hafta log out
[05:05] <TheGnome> dylan_, maybe
[05:05] <titanium> TheGnome: huh?
[05:05] <dylan_> TheGnome, will you still be here?
[05:05] <TheGnome> dylan_, yup
[05:05] <dylan_> TheGnome, cool then brb
[05:05] <titanium> TheGnome: what is the keyring
[05:05] <halley> reka, audio seems fine
[05:06] <dannyu502_> reka, what is my source directory?
[05:06] <rickity> iiiears, my disk is 200 GB ..cds are out of the question
[05:06] <reka> halley: playback not stuttery?
[05:06] <iiiears> rickity - give "mondo" rescue a look. - it will save your image to just about aanything.
[05:06] <andy_> titanium, there's a command you should run, had that problem too, google for that key (key=that number)
[05:06] <dannyu502_> what is my source directory?
[05:07] <reka> /usr/local/src maybe?
[05:07] <halley> reka, dvd audio and playback is actually quite smooth
[05:07] <dylan_> TheGnome, its still effed up
[05:07] <dannyu502_> maybe?
[05:07] <halley> reka, good lip sync for now, I'll leave it to see if it slips
[05:08] <TheGnome> dylan_, that sucks
[05:08] <dylan_> TheGnome, what do you recommend aside from the default music player?
[05:08] <dannyu502_> Is anyone SURE what the source directory is?
[05:08] <TheGnome> dylan_, xmms ....... mplayer
[05:08] <dylan_> TheGnome, why was everybody raving bmp?
[05:09] <TheGnome> dylan_, dont know
[05:09] <TheGnome> dylan_, bmp i cool..........just not my thing
[05:09] <reka> dylan_: it's prettier
[05:09] <dylan_> TheGnome, ah
[05:09] <Gatton> bmp is primarily what i use. it's good if you already like/use xmms or winamp
[05:09] <dylan_> TheGnome, ah?
[05:09] <TheGnome> what is chatzilla?
[05:09] <Gatton> personally i think it's too small. my old eyes maybe :)
[05:09] <dylan_> reka, can it do as much?
[05:10] <andy_> giva amarok a try?
[05:10] <TheGnome> what is chatzilla?
[05:10] <reka> dylan_: yes, it's a development fork. i can't see why people would opt for xmms over it.
[05:10] <TheGnome> amarok is very cool
[05:10] <reka> *xmms development fork
[05:10] <TheGnome> but it is qt
[05:10] <dylan_> reka, define "development fork" please
[05:10] <reka> dylan_: well, in my terms..."based on xmms"
[05:10] <andy_> qt?
[05:10] <dannyu502_> reka, it says "Go to source-directory"..... which onw is that
[05:10] <coolkev> Is there a firewall software i can use on ubuntu that will give me more control and option then firestarter... i want something like maybe zone alarm or Sygate personal Firewall on the windows OS
[05:11] <TheGnome> reka, becuse the controls suck
[05:11] <dylan_> reka, so its better right?
[05:11] <dannyu502_> reka, Seveas, it says "Go to source-directory"..... which onw is that
[05:11] <reka> dylan_: imo, yes...but try it....i'm not making an opinion for you :P
[05:11] <coolkev> I want a firewall that i can set up to allow certain ports to open but can only be access by a certain program
[05:11] <dylan_> reka, have you ever heard of the distro "BeatrIX Linux" ?
[05:11] <TheGnome> dylan_, just try them all till you find one you like
[05:11] <TheGnome> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:11] <ubotu> No idea, TheGnome
[05:11] <iiiears> coolkev - if you find it let me know.
[05:11] <reka> TheGnome: which controls?
[05:11] <TheGnome> easy as pie
[05:12] <reka> dylan_: no, don't really keep track of what's out there
[05:12] <coolkev> firestarter i think is weak and doesn't give me control to select an active connection and block it
[05:12] <dannyu502_> reka, Seveas, TheGnome, it says "Go to source-directory"..... which one is that
[05:12] <coolkev> which is very insecure
[05:12] <titanium> andy_: ah i found what you meant
[05:12] <dylan_> TheGnome, can i ask you a few questions...maybe pm you?
[05:12] <coolkev> espessially for linux which struves to be secure
[05:12] <coolkev> strives*
[05:13] <TheGnome> dylan_, ok
[05:13] <andy_> coolkev, try guarddog
[05:13] <zerboxx> Anyone here run fvwm?
[05:13] <coolkev> does it have a gui?
[05:13] <dannyu502_> Can ANYONE tell me which one is my source-directory?????
[05:13] <iiiears> sygate also does some nice things to fight attacks. like turning off their ip address for a set time.
[05:14] <titanium> andy_: ok i got the repos. added properly in synaptic but when i try to update it i get a depedency error. any thoughts?
[05:14] <titanium> "Depends: nxagent but it is not going to be installed"
[05:14] <dannyu502_> nooo one knows what the source-directory is??
[05:14] <linuxpoet> How do I get Hoary to stop asking for the cd and use the internet archives?
[05:14] <iiiears> would love to have sygate's  file checksumming in linux.
[05:15] <Unununium> linuxpoet: remove the CD from sources.list
[05:15] <Unununium> linuxpoet: it's in /etc/apt
[05:15] <iiiears> sygate = windows
[05:15] <dannyu502_> SoMe OnE PlEaSe HeLp Me?!?!!?!?!
[05:15] <Unununium> iiiears: you can probably whip something up with sha1sum and cron
[05:15] <coolkev> linuxpoet: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <andy_>  coolkev do you really need a firewall? just watch your inetd
[05:15] <Gatton> linuxboy, you can comment out the cd in your sources.list
[05:15] <coolkev> yes offcourse i need one
[05:15] <iiiears> tripwire
[05:16] <coolkev> what kind of a question is that in this day of age
[05:16] <andy_> titanium, apt-get install -f prognameyouwanttoinstall
[05:16] <linuxpoet> Doh
[05:16] <Unununium> -f
[05:16] <Unununium> What does -f mean?
[05:16] <linuxpoet> Of course I wouldn't notice the VERY FIRST LINE of the sources file
[05:16] <andy_> fix
[05:16] <reka> i though the biggest risk of damage to linux boxes was when someone had physical access
[05:17] <Unununium> linuxpoet: it's too obvious; it's like trying to determine the shape of the earth whilst standing on it
[05:17] <reka> i.e. you don't really need a firewall
[05:17] <coolkev> yes you do
[05:17] <Unununium> To prevent fire from gaining physical access
[05:17] <reka> andy_: isn't it force?
[05:17] <linuxpoet> heh
[05:17] <Unununium> Ah
[05:17] <titanium> andy_: freenx: Depends: nxagent (>= 1.4.90) but it is not going to be installed
[05:17] <andy_> reka, no not in apt-get
[05:17] <Unununium> Is there an --extreme-prejudice option?
[05:17] <titanium> with apt-get install -f freenx
[05:17] <iiiears> Unununium, Earth's "shape"? - the earth is flat and windows is secure. - no?
[05:17] <andy_> ther eit stands for fix-broken
[05:18] <halley> reka, sound stays locked and smooth, but there's a regular dropped frame problem that's worse than usual.  Like a 24frames per 30fields, but really obvious.
[05:18] <remyforbes777> hey guys i just bought a new amd turion laptop and I am trying to install a 64 bit version of linux on there from an iso image but it wont boot. any ideas
[05:18] <reka> andy_: right you are...just checked the man page :)
[05:18] <coolkev> i recommend firewalls and anti-virus for all users to use
[05:18] <coolkev> casue it's better to safe then NOT
[05:18] <halley> Unununium, to paraphrase Asimov, '--force' is the last refuge of the incompetent.  ;)
[05:18] <reka> halley: enable DMA on your DVD drive
[05:18] <coolkev> and i think other ubuntu user should incourage this
[05:18] <halley> reka, HOWTO?
[05:19] <Gatton> remyforbes777, it doesn't boot the cd?
[05:19] <remyforbes777> no
[05:19] <reka> !dma
[05:19] <remyforbes777> even though its set in bios to boot from cd
[05:19] <reka> https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DMA
[05:19] <iiiears> coolkev - and snort profiling and ip address blackholing - only the paranoid survive. - grin
[05:19] <marcin> hi all
[05:19] <Unununium> They really are out to get you
[05:19] <remyforbes777> is there another file along with the iso image that i have to burn on the cd in order to get it to boot
[05:20] <Unununium> At least, I am
[05:20] <coolkev> iiiears are you making fun of me?
[05:20] <Gatton> remyforbes777, no, if it's a good burn you shouldn't need anything else
[05:20] <iiiears> no
[05:20] <coolkev> for telling people to secure them selfs
[05:20] <remyforbes777> dang
[05:20] <bur[n] er> has anyone seen GDM freeze whenever you pick a different session?  as soon as I pick Xfce instead of Last, the PC freezes and I have to hard reboot
[05:20] <james> eclipse needs a jre, can i get one from apt-get?
[05:20] <bur[n] er> james: no
[05:20] <bur[n] er> james: check the ubuntu wiki for java
[05:20] <andy_> coolkev, do you run a server?
[05:20] <marcin> could someone tell me how can I set high resolution on console in ubuntu?
[05:20] <bimberi> !java
[05:20] <ubotu> I guess java is to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:20] <halley> reka, easy enough, thanks.
[05:20] <Unununium> burner: can you access the computer from the network when it's "frozen"?
[05:20] <coolkev> sometimes
[05:20] <Unununium> ping it, ssh to it
[05:21] <bluefoxicy> spellcheck continues to NOT WORK in OpenOffice2 on breezy.
[05:21] <Unununium> marcin: pass vga=ask to Linux at boot time, then pick a mode
[05:21] <bur[n] er> Unununium: nope
[05:21] <bur[n] er> i can't ctrl+alt+f2 either
[05:22] <iiiears> coolkev - http://isc.sans.org/diary.php - internet "weather report".
[05:22] <Unununium> Incidentally, I have made a patch allowing 132x60 on my particular graphics card, something SVGATextMode doesn't know how to do
[05:22] <ezek> can i get help plz ?
[05:22] <Unununium> No, not until you ask your question
[05:22] <bur[n] er> Unununium: by any chance is yours a widescreen latop?
[05:22] <bluefoxicy> bur[n] er: right alt + printscreen + [EISUO]  in that order, 3 seconds between, clean shutdown.
[05:22] <Unununium> 132x60 gives tall, skinny characters which look nice
[05:23] <bluefoxicy> bur[n] er:  if that doesn't work, it is indeed hard frozen.  2.6.10 I take it?
[05:23] <reka> Unununium: seeing as you're a console buff, do you know if it's possible to change the refresh rate?
[05:23] <bur[n] er> [EISUO]
[05:23] <coolkev> the version of guarddog in the ubuntu repos have been way outdated
[05:23] <ezek> Unununium i'd need support to do this
[05:23] <reka> Unununium: 60Hz is hard on the eyes
[05:23] <bluefoxicy> bur[n] er:  I use 2.6.12 because 10 hard-locks for me a lot.
[05:23] <ezek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17019&highlight=retrieve+root+password
[05:23] <c0rrupt_> how can i get the version number of a given file through apt-get
[05:23] <Unununium> Are you using a "text" or "graphics" mode on your card?
[05:23] <bluefoxicy> bur[n] er:  yes, sigtErm, sigkIll, Sync, Unmount, Off
[05:23] <coolkev> on repo is 2.3.2 and current stable version is 2.4.0
[05:23] <reka> Unununium: heh, not sure to be honest
[05:23] <c0rrupt_> how can i get the version number of a given file through apt-get
[05:24] <Unununium> You can tell by looking at your cursor and watching how it is rendered
[05:24] <Unununium> Text cursors are in the same "foreground" color and overlay the text
[05:24] <Unununium> Framebuffer cursors invert, or something different.  Anyway, they look different to me
[05:24] <marcin> Unununium: thx, trying in a moment
[05:24] <bur[n] er> bluefoxicy: i'll try .12, though I think my issue is X related only
[05:24] <bimberi> c0rrupt_: dpkg -l <package>
[05:25] <Unununium> Also, the blink rate is always, always constant, whereas the framebuffer cursor seems to speed up, pause, slow down as you move it around on the screen
[05:25] <bluefoxicy> bur[n] er:  possibly.  If it's X freezing, the magic sysrq stuff should still work
[05:25] <ezek> ubuntu/knopp!x where can i find that ?
[05:25] <c0rrupt_> bimberi, nien
[05:25] <bur[n] er> bluefoxicy: good call
[05:25] <c0rrupt_> through apt
[05:25] <Unununium> You can also try Ctrl+Alt+F1 or Ctrl+Alt+BackSpace
[05:25] <sproingie> what's ctrl-alt-f1 do?
[05:25] <reka> Unununium: so what'd the next step be after working out which mode?
[05:26] <sproingie> oh duh switch vc's
[05:26] <Unununium> Switches away from X to a text terminal
[05:26] <Unununium> Or you can hold Ctrl+Alt while pulling the power plug
[05:26] <TheGnome> why when i close rythmbox it doesnt close to system tray?  it has an icon there
[05:26] <Unununium> reka: is it text or framebuffer?
[05:26] <Unununium> 60Hz is likely to be framebuffer
[05:26] <reka> Unununium: framebuffer i think
[05:26] <biscuit_> Can someone help me with configuring ESD in ubuntu?
[05:27] <Unununium> get fbset
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> !ESD
[05:27] <ubotu> I heard esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[05:27] <reka> and seeing as how i passed a vga option, i assume that is another sign?
[05:27] <Unununium> biscuit: what's there to configure?
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> !ubotu, how helpful
[05:27] <ubotu> nomasteryoda: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:27] <Unununium> reka: no, VGA does text as well as graphics.   A marketing technique employed by those who do not trust in the merits of their own product. Also Fair Use Day.
[05:28] <f_newton> well crap cant seem to get java working in ubuntu
[05:28] <Unununium> reka: fbset will let you do whatever you want
[05:28] <coolkev> !ubotu smoke?
[05:28] <ubotu> coolkev: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:28] <andy_> what they say there is if you don't remember your password, yu have to get acces to your pc on a alternative way
[05:28] <bur[n] er> thanks for the help all... hopefully something works here
[05:28] <coolkev> !ubotu yes
[05:28] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thought it, eh, coolkev?
[05:28] <reka> Unununium: thanks, will look into it
[05:28] <avanspronsen> !java
[05:29] <ubotu> java is, like, totally, to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:29] <coolkev> !ubotu Ubuntu
[05:29] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It means 'Humanity to others'. see !awards
[05:29] <Unununium> andy_: Like booting with the init=/bin/sh option
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> ColonelKernel, ah we thinks humor someone programmed into ubotu
[05:29] <biscuit_> !Nicaragua!
[05:29] <ubotu> biscuit_: Are you on ritalin?
[05:29] <sproingie> coolkev: you and uboto get a room, ok?
[05:29] <biscuit_> :-P
[05:29] <Unununium> ritalout
[05:29] <coolkev> is SElinux intergated into ubuntu?
[05:29] <speel> !awards
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> sproingie, LOLROTF
[05:29] <ubotu> from memory, awards is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubunturocks
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> hey, linuxrocks too ...hehe
[05:29] <Unununium> turok?
[05:29] <marcin> Unununium: sorry no effect after vga=ask
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> tuvock
[05:30] <andy_> Unununium, could be, dunno, havent forgot my password yet :d
[05:30] <Unununium> marcin: Maybe you don't have VGA mode selection compiled into your kernel.
[05:30] <coolkev> is SElinux integrated in Hoary or will be added to breezy?
[05:30] <marcin> Unununium: I got default hoary kernel
[05:30] <biscuit_> Does anyone here use Linuxant?
[05:30] <Unununium> andy_: I usually use that to log into computers whose root passwords I have never known
[05:30] <biscuit_> !linuxant
[05:30] <ubotu> biscuit_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:30] <biscuit_> !:-P
[05:30] <ubotu> biscuit_: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:30] <TheGnome> why when i close rythmbox it doesnt close to system tray?  it has an icon there
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> you guys
[05:31] <andy_> :)
[05:31] <Unununium> marcin: vga=ask queries the BIOS for modes and gives you a selection.  All this is done in video.S before leaving "real mode"
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:31] <biscuit_> Does anyone here use dialup?
[05:31] <Unununium> I do
[05:31] <Unununium> 28.8!
[05:31] <coolkev> is SElinux integrated in Hoary or will be added to breezy?
[05:31] <Unununium> Slow down son, you're talking too fast!
[05:31] <marcin> Unununium: I had this selection
[05:31] <TheGnome> im too cool to use dialup...........28.8 wow i feel sorry for you
[05:32] <biscuit_> Unununium: Linuxant by any chance?
[05:32] <Unununium> Noisy phone lines and an out-of-the-way locale... what can I say?
[05:32] <PurpleMotion> I haven't owned a modem since 1998
[05:32] <andy_> Unununium, sometimes this chat must look like tetris level five to you
[05:32] <biscuit_> I live to far from Hi-Speed...
[05:32] <Unununium> linuxant??
[05:32] <marcin> Unununium: but after log in I switched to console with Ctrl+Alt+F1 and it is still in low resolution
[05:32] <Unununium> It's... interesting.
[05:32] <Unununium> marcin: 80x25?
[05:32] <biscuit_> Linuxant.... Very bad Driver....
[05:33] <coolkev> can anyone answer the question: Is SElinux integrated in Hoary or will be added to breezy?
[05:33] <Unununium> Oh, modem driver.  No, I have an external serial modem.
[05:33] <Unununium> Two, actually
[05:33] <biscuit_> Oh
[05:33] <marcin> Unununium: propably yes
[05:33] <biscuit_> How much did they cost?
[05:33] <iiiears> !breezy
[05:33] <ubotu> hmm... breezy is the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[05:33] <Unununium> marcin: echo $LINES and echo $COLUMNS if you want to check
[05:33] <TylerE> I'm having an issue with the Generic IDE stuff. It's kicking in BEFORE my hardware specific driver (VP_IDE) and preventing me from getting DMA. System is AMD64 running 2.6.11-1-k8 kernel
[05:33] <PurpleMotion> does anyone know how to spell 'inna godda davida' the right way? as in fromt he opera
[05:33] <crimsun> coolkev: the infrastructure is present, but it won't be enabled by default.
[05:33] <laughingMan> hello, i have a trouble run mozilla with flahs plugin
[05:33] <Unununium> biscuit_: the modems?  $50-$100 each, I think
[05:33] <biscuit_> Ok
[05:33] <PurpleMotion> TylerE:  so turn off generic ide support
[05:33] <laughingMan> mozilla crach when i load a file contain flash animation
[05:34] <TylerE> how exactly do I do that?
[05:34] <GattonAFK> PurpleMotion, as in not Iron Butterfly?
[05:34] <coolkev> how can i harness the securtiy benefits offered by SElinux
[05:34] <PurpleMotion> recompile the kernel
[05:34] <marcin> Unununium: yes it is 80x25
[05:34] <Unununium> PurpleMotion: inna gadda da vida
[05:34] <PurpleMotion> GattonAFK:  yeah..
[05:34] <andy_> laughingMan, how did you install the flash plugin?
[05:34] <biscuit_> What are some good Partition programs for Linux?
[05:34] <TylerE> *sigh*
[05:34] <laughingMan> with apt-get
[05:34] <PurpleMotion> Unununium:  tyvm
[05:34] <Unununium> biscuit_: I usually use fdisk even though it's rumored to suck
[05:34] <TylerE> it seems so stupid and wrong that it uses the generic driver before trying hardware specific drivers
[05:34] <sproingie> coolkev: install grsec.  you'll get all the benefits of selinux and then some
[05:34] <GattonAFK> didn't realize there was such an opera
[05:34] <coolkev> biscuit_: gparted
[05:34] <biscuit_> Oh
[05:34] <TheGnome> biscuit_, umm fdisk
[05:34] <laughingMan> i try to instal it manual too
[05:34] <reka> biscuit_: qtparted/gparted iirc
[05:34] <biscuit_> Isn't fdisk windows?
[05:34] <TheGnome> biscuit_, and gparted
[05:35] <crimsun> coolkev: you'll need to check a lot of the documentation scattered across the Web
[05:35] <Unununium> marcin: I forgot what we were doing
[05:35] <sproingie> coolkev: selinux doesnt look slated for breezy.  maybe the next one
[05:35] <iiiears> crimsun - are you using 64 bit linux?
[05:35] <marcin> Unununium: heh I propably got it in kernel .config I got CONFIG_FB is not set and CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT is not set
[05:35] <biscuit_> Would installing Linux on an External HD work?
[05:35] <TheGnome> biscuit_, there is fdisk in linux
[05:35] <PurpleMotion> Unununium:  you wouldnt happen to have it would you ;)
[05:35] <crimsun> iiiears: I have a pbuilder running on amd64, but I don't use it as a desktop.
[05:35] <biscuit_> TheGnome: Where at
[05:35] <Unununium> PurpleMotion: yes
[05:35] <sproingie> is there a "what's new in breezy" for literates?
[05:36] <TheGnome> biscuit_, type fdisk in term
[05:36] <Unununium> marcin: you sure you got stock Hoary?
[05:36] <biscuit_> ok
[05:36] <PurpleMotion> Unununium:  the one from indiana jones and the temple of doom, right?
[05:36] <Unununium> I don't know about that
[05:36] <PurpleMotion> cause all im getting is iron butterfly
[05:36] <Unununium> But maybe I should see that movie again
[05:36] <marcin> Unununium: we were trying to set higher resolution on console with vga=ask
[05:36] <iiiears> Okay. - always appreciate your advice going to need a bit in a couple weeks.
[05:36] <Unununium> Ah.  What resolution do you want?
[05:36] <marcin> Unununium: well yes - stock Hoary but with K7 kernel
[05:36] <Unununium> And, you can wait until later to do it via fbcon and fbset
[05:36] <Unununium> Or you can use SVGATextMode and avoid fbcon
[05:37] <xbins> anyone help me with a startup question?
[05:37] <Unununium> (heh, NOW it feels like Tetris!)
[05:37] <PurpleMotion> Unununium:  im just trying to clarify... we're talking about the classical choir piece.. its really suspensful and builds constantly through the song
[05:37] <Unununium> Hey, my Hoary kernel has CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX=y
[05:37] <Unununium> PurpleMotion: no, I just have the Iron Butterfly
[05:38] <GattonAFK> PurpleMotion, i am banging my head but can't think of any choral piece with that name
[05:38] <thoreauputic> heh - for a weird experience, run some video file using aaxine .... bizarre
[05:38] <crimsun> Unununium: yes, as I mentioned, the infrastructure is present and disabled by default.
[05:38] <marcin> Unununium: I don't know what resolution... something simmilar to what I have on X
[05:38] <GattonAFK> PurpleMotion, you don't know the composer do you?
[05:38] <PurpleMotion> GattonAFK:  no, and it's driving me crazy too.. have you ever seen temple of doom?
[05:38] <marcin> Unununium: the higher available is 132x44
[05:38] <coolkev> is there any way to change the background color for the gnome loading screen after u login for the first time
[05:38] <Unununium> marcin: my Hoary has CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y
[05:38] <xbins> i'm running openbox (no gnome) and I want the gnome-panel to run at startup, how do I get that into init in dbian?
[05:38] <Unununium> marcin: If you have an ATI you can do 132x60 with my patch
[05:38] <coolkev> i don't like the defualt brown color added by ubuntu
[05:38] <PurpleMotion> coolkev:  so change it
[05:38] <GattonAFK> PurpleMotion, not in many years. It's my least fav of the series I'm afraid. But if it's in that movie surely I can find out
[05:39] <marcin> yes I got ATI
[05:39] <Unununium> It adds a mode VGA=BEEF
[05:39] <f_newton> yeah it is kinda blah isnt it?
[05:39] <coolkev> the question was HOW
[05:39] <PurpleMotion> heh its my favorite fromt he series
[05:39] <TheGnome> coolkev, so change it
[05:39] <sproingie> gnome is a study in the color brown.  ubuntu embraces brown.
[05:39] <aru> Unununium: well... at least it atkins approved? :)
[05:39] <f_newton> sproingie yer fulluvit
[05:39] <PurpleMotion> GattonAFK:  it's the climax music when they're actually int he temple and they get noticed
[05:39] <Unununium> Yes, it's actually 0xBEEF which is very high in protein
[05:39] <coolkev> how can i change it?
[05:39] <ezek> can anyone would like to help me to reset my root password ?
[05:39] <marcin> Unununium: yes I got ATi although I don't use fglrx drivers because I couldn't set up them
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> PurpleMotion, easier said than done... the brown default that splashes.. .even when youchange the background color and image and splash image
[05:39] <LaserJock> xbins: how are you starting openbox? GDM?
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> still stays brown
[05:39] <Unununium> What's fglrx?
[05:39] <xbins> ues
[05:40] <xbins> yes, even
[05:40] <marcin> Unununium: they didn't want to run with my DVI connection
[05:40] <sproingie> Unununium: the ATI driver
[05:40] <GattonAFK> PurpleMotion, ok. Lemme check it out. It may be a piece that John Williams wrote for the score though
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> ezek, reset?
[05:40] <PurpleMotion> Unununium:  ati drivers
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> ezek, there is not on ubuntu
[05:40] <sproingie> !fglrx
[05:40] <ubotu> fglrx is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:40] <f_newton> there are splash screens you can change it to if you really want to
[05:40] <PurpleMotion> GattonAFK:  i was told it was inna gadda da vida
[05:40] <iiiears> !splashscreen
[05:40] <nomasteryoda> !root
[05:40] <ubotu> splashscreen is, like, to change your splashscreen via a GUI, "sudo apt-get install gtweakui", or install "gtweakui" from Synaptic (make sure you have universe !repos enabled)
[05:40] <ubotu> somebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:40] <f_newton> its only for a second or two thoughj
[05:40] <Unununium> Never heard of it; I'm using "radeon" successfully
[05:40] <TheGnome> ok guys........change your background color to ..whatever ....then change gdm backgorund to whatever....no more brown
[05:40] <reka> marcin: what probs did you have with them?
[05:40] <f_newton> its not that you cant get used to it
[05:40] <f_newton> ya know?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> ah, oke ..   TheFoam rocks
[05:41] <marcin> reka: I could only use them with VGA not DVI
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> =)
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> TheGnome, lol
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> quantum foam whence we roam
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> nn all
[05:41] <Unununium> marcin: let me see if I can find my patch.  It's five years old or more, though...
[05:41] <sproingie> Unununium: radeon is for older ati chipsets
[05:41] <Unununium> But then again the video.S code hasn't changed very much
[05:41] <f_newton> TheGnome, the gdms provided by ubuntu are brown, touchyfeely brown and multi touchy feely brown
[05:41] <iiiears> Gnome is almost infinitely configurable - take a peak at gnomelook.org
[05:41] <biscuit_> How do you compile .dlls with Wine?
[05:41] <Unununium> sproingie: such as the Radeon? :^)
[05:41] <Unununium> http://ioioio.net/xorg.conf
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> !wine
[05:42] <TheGnome> f_newton, if you go into gdm setup.....you can change
[05:42] <iiiears> !cedega
[05:42] <ubotu> cedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[05:42] <f_newton> yes and you can also download some rather nice ones from the net as well
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> try here ... http://www.winehq.org
[05:42] <LaserJock> xbins: you need to change the way that GDM starts openbox
[05:42] <andy_> ezek with sudo you must use your normal user pass
[05:42] <TheGnome> f_newton, DONT FORGET TO CHANGE BACKGORUND COLOR or else at boot it will be brown
[05:42] <coolkev> i installed gtweakui... now where do i go or what do i type to access it
[05:42] <andy_> you can add a root pass however
[05:42] <xbins> is there a gdm config I change, or what?
[05:42] <andy_> then yo type su
[05:42] <Unununium> sudo passwd root
[05:42] <nomasteryoda> andy_, but why?
[05:42] <ksmurf> hello all ... is there a specific breezy channel?
[05:42] <f_newton> TheGnome, I changed my desktop background.  I really dont worry about the gdm
[05:43] <iiiears> ubotu wine is also try here ... http://www.winehq.org
[05:43] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[05:43] <biscuit_> Te he he
[05:43] <Unununium> marcin: http://ioioio.net/fonts/ and http://ioioio.net/fonts/kernel/
[05:43] <alie> anybody can help me with bonobo and gnome
[05:43] <TheGnome> f_newton, did you change the color too
[05:43] <Unununium> I apologize for the suck value of the code.  It's very very old
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> biscuit_, now he knows...
[05:43] <nomasteryoda> !wine
[05:43] <LaserJock> xbins: you can either have GDM start a default session that will use your ~/.xinitrc file or you can create a new xsession file that executes a shell script
[05:43] <alie> it is giving error nautilus cannot find bonobo factory
[05:43] <f_newton> lol TheGnome I changed to clearlooks and the background color yues
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> !ubotu tell biscuit_ about wine
[05:44] <f_newton> right now I am trying to get java to work
[05:44] <killahkosha> So the Ubuntu livecd, it is installable right?
[05:44] <alie> i have reinstalled nautilus gnome still the error is there
[05:44] <reka> coolkev: maybe try 'gtweakui'
[05:44] <coolkev> i did'
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> killahkosha, no
[05:44] <coolkev> doesn't do anything
[05:44] <nomasteryoda> killahkosha, you need the install cd
[05:44] <f_newton> earthtones are not my favorite
[05:44] <killahkosha> oh bleh
[05:44] <killahkosha> how large is the livecd
[05:44] <reka> coolkev: no such file?
[05:44] <killahkosha> can't decide if its worthy of trying it out
[05:44] <coolkev> yep
[05:44] <xbins> I like the .xinitrc file idea, how do I make it run that?
[05:45] <f_newton> but in the right perspective they are nice ... if you have enough green
[05:45] <Unununium> marcin: the 2.4.1 patch won't apply cleanly to 2.6.whatever due to the addition of some power management stuff
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> killahkosha, it is
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> very good
[05:45] <biscuit_> nomasteryoda, ?
[05:45] <nomasteryoda> oh, about wine
[05:45] <marcin> Unununium: ok I'll try to google yet more
[05:45] <marcin> Unununium: thanks for now
[05:45] <alie> any one working with gnome ?
[05:45] <reka> coolkev: dpkg -L and then look for files in /usr/bin/
[05:45] <marcin> alie: no
[05:45] <marcin> alie: we all use ion3 ;)
[05:45] <reka> *dpkg -L gtweakui
[05:46] <killahkosha> I assume it already comes with 3d-accelerated drivers for my Nvidia 6600GT?
[05:46] <Unununium> marcin: If (when) I find the 2.6 version I'll upload it.  What is your email address?
[05:46] <alie> ion3 ? what is hat ?
[05:46] <alie> that
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> biscuit_, you were Te he he about iiiears posting info into wine
[05:46] <nomasteryoda> er, into ubotu
[05:46] <LaserJock> xbins: put "gnome-panel &" followed by "openbox" in your .xinitrc file
[05:46] <marcin> Unununium: marcin.antczak at gmail.com
[05:46] <c0rrupt_> how
[05:46] <c0rrupt_> do i see
[05:46] <EasterSunshine> quick simple question: i want to run a command exactly two hours from now, how would i do that?
[05:46] <c0rrupt_> the version.
[05:46] <c0rrupt_> of a file i am about to install
[05:46] <crimsun> EasterSunshine: man 5 crontab should show you an example
[05:46] <iiiears> !cron
[05:46] <xbins> is that all i need to do?
[05:46] <ubotu> iiiears: Are you smoking crack?
[05:47] <marcin> alie: ion3 - next generation default window manager for ubuntu ;D
[05:47] <EasterSunshine> thx chimsun
[05:47] <ksmurf> how do you reconfigure xorg on breezy?
[05:47] <c0rrupt_> !
[05:47] <ubotu> c0rrupt_: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:47] <EasterSunshine> crimsun*
[05:47] <crimsun> ksmurf: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:47] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine:   sleep 2h && yourcommand
[05:47] <c0rrupt_> ubotu, ..?
[05:47] <alie> but how to get that ?
[05:47] <ubotu> c0rrupt_: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:47] <c0rrupt_> ubotu, ..?
[05:47] <Unununium> marcin: will do.
[05:47] <Unununium> Hey, I should go.  Bedtime approacheth.
[05:47] <alie> marcin what is taht
[05:47] <Unununium> I'll get the printer stuff figured out after I upgrade things.
[05:47] <marcin> alie: http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/
[05:47] <c0rrupt_> packets of 5 whats the hell does that mean
[05:47] <biscuit_> Noooo...... i was testing to see if i was lagging out
[05:47] <biscuit_> I just say random stuff to test it
[05:47] <marcin> alie: it is really window manager
[05:48] <EasterSunshine> hmm...i think i'll use thor's; thx
[05:48] <marcin> alie: and personally I think that it is the best window manager and I'm using it now
[05:48] <killahkosha> Is Openoffice.org a gnome or kde application?
[05:48] <alie> so i wont need to use bonobo nautilus
[05:48] <alie> ?
[05:49] <iiiears> EasterSunshine, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22401.html
[05:49] <alie> marcin,  i wont need to use bonobo gnome ?
[05:49] <TheGnome> openoffice is java i think
[05:49] <thoreauputic> EasterSunshine: you might also read  "man at "  :)
[05:49] <marcin> alie: but it was only a joke while well almost all 'ubuntoers' love pretty icons and nice graphisc in gnome/kde
[05:49] <IcemanV9> killahkosha: either
[05:49] <bur[n] er> openoffice has java components
[05:49] <killahkosha> Well I mean, does it use the Gtk or Qt?
[05:49] <iiiears> thoreauputic - you are great! :)
[05:49] <f_newton> !java
[05:49] <ubotu> java is probably to install Java please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[05:49] <Gatton> ooo uses gtk as far as i know
[05:49] <PurpleMotion> hehe, i found the greatest american hero soundtrack :D
[05:50] <PurpleMotion> err theme song
[05:50] <killahkosha> All right cool, thanks.
[05:50] <marcin> alie: but seriously what do you need?
[05:50] <Gatton> believe it or not
[05:50] <Gatton> george isn't at home
[05:50] <andy_> i'll go piss and sleep it's 5.50 am here and there's a blonde in my bed
[05:50] <LaserJock> I thought that ooo had its own widget set, or maybe i'm wrong
[05:50] <alie> marcin i am getting an error that nautilus cannot connect to bonobo server
[05:50] <thoreauputic> iiiears: thanks for the compliment but I just have an undiscriminating fly-paper mind ;)
[05:50] <PurpleMotion> \:D/ Believe it or not, IIIIIIIIIIIm walkin on air.. I never thought I could be so freee-eeee-eeee.. Flyin away on a wing a prayer, who could it beeeeeeee? Believe it or not it's just meeeeeee \:D/
[05:50] <TheGnome> andy_, WOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOO
[05:50] <alie> marcin, i am getting an error that nautilus cannot connect to bonobo server
[05:50] <TheGnome> andy_, how old are you?
[05:51] <andy_> 24
[05:51] <marcin> alie: stock nautilus on hoary?
[05:51] <ms12> anyone know if i can run evolution from icewm
[05:51] <reka> andy_: you own a labrador? :P
[05:51] <alie> i am a newbie i dont know what is stock ?
[05:51] <andy_> no a german shepherd
[05:51] <thoreauputic> ms12: yes, of course
[05:51] <marcin> alie: installed from package?
[05:51] <reka> ms12: yes.
[05:51] <alie> marcin, from interne
[05:51] <alie> marcin, from internet
[05:52] <ms12> thoreauptic do not know why it is not working here will try again i just installed it and am really impressed by its speed
[05:52] <marcin> alie: hmm what do you mean 'from internet' ?
[05:52] <alie> marcin, nautilus as well as gnome reinstalled from internet
[05:52] <alie> marcin, i mean downloaded from repositories
[05:52] <Gatton> PurpleMotion, i found the Temple of Doom soundtrack.  :D I'll set you up an ftp on my server at interserver.net
[05:53] <ms12> reka its pretty fast faster then enlightenment which i like
[05:53] <zerboxx> Anyone here use fvwm that can help me out with a few things?
[05:53] <goldenfox> is it true that ubuntu is giving away free cds?
[05:53] <avanspronsen> !shipit
[05:53] <ubotu> [shipit]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/shipit/link_view
[05:53] <reka> killahkosha: yep
[05:53] <alie> marcin, from apt-get install gnome
[05:53] <ms12> got to go now experiment with it so have fun guys take care
[05:53] <IcemanV9> killahkosha: yep
[05:53] <PurpleMotion> i think the song might be temple of doom
[05:53] <alie> apt-get install nautilus
[05:53] <reka> goldenfox: yep
[05:53] <Gatton> PurpleMotion, sure. send me the info. it'll take me a few minutes to download it
[05:54] <goldenfox> cool! That's cool
[05:54] <PurpleMotion> but ive heard the song on other movies too
[05:54] <Gatton> i'll just grab it all
[05:54] <PurpleMotion> cool
[05:54] <reka> ms12: tried xfce?
[05:54] <iiiears> ubotu cron is "sleep 2h && yourcommand" "man at or man crontab" and this link  "http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22401.html" did this help?
[05:54] <ubotu> iiiears: okay
[05:54] <PurpleMotion> u rock
[05:54] <PurpleMotion> Gatton:  toss me either your aim or icq or yahoo or msn
[05:54] <marcin> alie: I have to go now...
[05:54] <marcin> alie: but try to
[05:54] <marcin> alie: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[05:54] <alie> ok
[05:55] <alie> marcin, thanks ;)
[05:55] <thoreauputic> iiiears: the sleep command really has nothing to do with cron, and neither does "at", you know...
[05:55] <Gatton> PurpleMotion, i am the last person on the planet not using IM ;).  can you send me info at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:55] <marcin> alie: or run synaptic and then reinstall nautluis package
[05:55] <iiiears> lol - any hints?
[05:55] <PurpleMotion> hah, ill just msg u
[05:55] <Gatton> ok
[05:55] <PurpleMotion> and yeah,y ou're the lastest
[05:55] <goldenfox> what does ubuntu distribution password means?
[05:56] <biscuit_> Muahahahaha I shall have Linux on the Go!
[05:56] <alie> marcin, ok
[05:56] <thoreauputic> iiiears: maybe the factoid should be something like "delay" - also note that sleep 2h means delay two hours (m is minutes, s seconds)
[05:56] <iiiears> wishing it had the man entries for each command and an additional reference link - you might ask "man at" get the info plus related commands.
[05:56] <killahkosha> I'm glad I'm going to try out Ubuntu, I realized an hour ago that all the applications that I use are available for Linux :)
[05:56] <alie> marcin, how to install xfce
[05:56] <alie> marcin, apt-get ?
[05:57] <killahkosha> How does OpenOffice.org compare to Office 2003 though?
[05:57] <PurpleMotion> you get all that gatton?
[05:57] <TheGnome> openoffice is way better
[05:57] <iiiears> ubotu forget cron
[05:57] <ubotu> iiiears: i forgot cron
[05:57] <alie> its free and work of good people
[05:57] <killahkosha> Like is it a night and day difference in functionality?
[05:57] <alie> killahkosha, who love the world
[05:57] <iiiears> ubotu delay is "sleep 2h && yourcommand" "man at or man crontab" and this link  "http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22401.html" did this help?
[05:57] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[05:57] <sproingie> killahkosha: i rather prefer office 2003.  except openoffice has fairly nice pdf creation abilities
[05:57] <reka> killahkosha: matter of opinion...does what it needs to for me
[05:57] <alie> killahkosha, support it
[05:57] <f_newton> well I guess java is not accessible for ubuntu
[05:57] <f_newton> strike one
[05:57] <alie> f_newton, it is
[05:57] <killahkosha> all right, I'll try it out, if it isn't very good I'll just keep the partition of Windows XP around :)
[05:58] <volvoguy> hey all. while i have what works of the breezy installer up on my laptop right now, and a usb key mounted, is there anything i can do (lspci, lsusb, etc) to aid in troubleshooting my install issues?
[05:58] <iiiears> delay is also  also note that sleep 2h means delay two hours (m is minutes, s seconds)
[05:58] <killahkosha> Anyone know of a free program for Windows to safely resize an Ntfs partition?
[05:58] <paulproteus> killahkosha: QtParted and a Knoppix ISO
[05:58] <iiiears> ubotu  delay is also note that sleep 2h means delay two hours (m is minutes, s seconds)
[05:58] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[05:58] <sproingie> killahkosha: ntfsresize, or just use qtparted which has it built in
[05:59] <iiiears> pastiche.
[05:59] <sproingie> killahkosha: best to use qtparted since there's a few different versions of ntfsresize going around, and the older versions aren't as safe
[05:59] <volvoguy> i think ntfsresize is on the hoary install and live cd's too.
[06:00] <zerboxx> I can play movies in xine, but when I try to play the same movies in gmplayer it freezes, anyone know why?
[06:00] <goldenfox> same here
[06:00] <reka> killahkosha, sproingie :  you can resize in the partitioning stage of install
[06:00] <goldenfox> have you tried mplayer?
[06:00] <killahkosha> Ohmer, all right sweet :)
[06:00] <IcemanV9> forgot mplayer, stick with xine :P
[06:00] <thoreauputic> iiiears: http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/Timer_Script.html  <-- my humble timer :)
[06:00] <killahkosha> I'll back up the data just in case, can't hurt I suppose  :)
[06:00] <IcemanV9> *forget
[06:00] <goldenfox> xine is very slow here in my pc
[06:00] <f_newton> alie Ive installed it run the symlinks and it just doesnt work
[06:01] <sproingie> reka: good to know.  i never remember the installer that well, since i only ever aim to use it once
[06:01] <reka> killahkosha: very good idea
[06:01] <f_newton> so..
[06:01] <TheGnome> totem-xine is the way to go
[06:01] <reka> sproingie: it's kind of hidden though...which is unfortunate
[06:01] <sproingie> reka: i use the expert installer, i think it's totally hidden there
[06:01] <f_newton> TheGnome, totem-xine is a stripped down model
[06:01] <alie> f_newton, you are talking about java jdk ? is it ?
[06:01] <f_newton> no java runtime
[06:01] <alie> ok just download the bin file
[06:02] <goldenfox> totem-xine? never heard of it before
[06:02] <alie> f_newton,  just download the bin file
[06:02] <alie> f_newton, it will work
[06:02] <f_newton> alie done that, installed it, ran the symlink to the moz plugin
[06:02] <f_newton> it doesnt work
[06:02] <alie> ooh
[06:02] <reka> sproingie, killahkosha : you have to select 'manually edit the partition table', select the NTFS parition, press enter, select the size field, press enter, then enter the new size.
[06:02] <alie> f_newton, you are using which browser
[06:02] <f_newton> lol firefox
[06:02] <alie> f_newton, is it mozilla or mozilla-firefox ?
[06:03] <sproingie> reka: aieee, i would NEVER have believed that would *non-destructively* resize it
[06:03] <alie> f_newton, there are two browser plugin
[06:03] <sproingie> reka: i was brought up on fdisk .... you don't do that in fdisk :)
[06:03] <f_newton> alie....yes
[06:03] <reka> sproingie: well, it works. :)  i have no clue about fdisk
[06:03] <alie> f_newton, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins should have the link to java
[06:03] <f_newton> but if you put it in moz it should read in moz firefox but I put it in both just to be sure
[06:03] <alie> f_newton, not the mozilla plugins
[06:04] <f_newton> I will ls -l and see if its there
[06:04] <sproingie> reka: fdisk can't resize the partition at all, but if you delete it and add it back at a different size, it'll be happy to
[06:04] <iiiears> ubotu delay is also http://users.fishinternet.com.au/~peterg/Timer_Script.html << Thank You thoreauputic :)
[06:04] <ubotu> okay, iiiears
[06:04] <sproingie> reka: won't preserve your data or anything of course
[06:04] <ushooz> anyone know why glade-2 (interface designer) does not bring up the windows to design the gui?
[06:04] <alie> f_newton, do it and check if it is symbolic link ;)
[06:04] <goldenfox> is there any chance i can choose what package to install when installing ubuntu?
[06:04] <reka> sproingie: i know someone who would use a mandrake install cd to set up partitions, then reboot before it installed the files. :)
[06:04] <sproingie> reka: i do that with a rescue cd that has qtparted, actually
[06:05] <thoreauputic> iiiears: heh - free advertising! <laugh>
[06:05] <goldenfox> use the ubuntu partitioning, much easier
[06:05] <sproingie> partitioning is something i do only once
[06:05] <spinkz>  I have a software raid /dev/md0... I accidently only initialized one drive so it looked like [_U]  .. I just added the second drive now.  so cat/proc/mdstat shows it is syncing.  It is ok to still use the partition that the raid is mounted to while its "hot" adding the second drive?
[06:06] <garyc> success sharing my folders now I want to share the printer
[06:06] <iiiears> just hoping ubotu doesn't boot himself for flooding when that query is entered nrly a paragraph. - not cutting a word of it.  - sheepish grin
[06:06] <garyc> printer installed ok with test page
[06:06] <sproingie> spinkz: depends what level of raid
[06:06] <spinkz> spo0nman, raid1
[06:06] <thoreauputic> iiiears: if it's too long it goes to /msg
[06:06] <garyc> how do I share it ??
[06:06] <reka> iiiears: i think he uses /msg when it's rather long
[06:06] <spinkz> sproingie, raid 1
[06:06] <sproingie> spinkz: you'll be fine, raid1 is designed to be redundant
[06:07] <goldenfox> can somebody explain to me what is raid?
[06:07] <spinkz> sproingie, so even when its rebuilding the second drive i can use the first?
[06:07] <sproingie> goldenfox: stands for "redundant array of individual disks"
[06:07] <desrt> goldenfox; multiple harddrives join together to make one virtual drive that is larger and more resiliant to failure
[06:07] <speel> raid is a bug spray
[06:07] <reka> wikipedia
[06:07] <goldenfox> oh.. cool
[06:07] <IcemanV9> lol @ speel :)
[06:08] <sproingie> goldenfox: basically it's a way of using a bunch of disks at once.  some configurations you can "stripe" them to be faster, some you can have one drive be a backup of the other
[06:08] <speel> ;D
[06:08] <garyc> Hey!  How do I share my printer
[06:08] <sproingie> goldenfox: and with 3 or more disks, you can get exotic combinations of the two
[06:08] <iiiears> !raid
[06:08] <ubotu> raid is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto
[06:08] <desrt> goldenfox; in RAID4/5 config (most common for large number of drives) for N drives of size S, you get (N-1)*S storage and your data is safe so long as only 1 drive fails
[06:08] <goldenfox> very cool
[06:08] <sm> good evening
[06:08] <Thewarmachine> I cant seem to get the f-spot source
[06:08] <desrt> goldenfox; if 2 disks fail you're in trouble, though :)
[06:08] <sm> how do I help someone open a lot of MS works files in ubuntu ?
[06:08] <Thewarmachine> website is congested I guess
[06:08] <garyc> I have samba installed  -  I don't see how to share it
[06:08] <thoreauputic> iiiears: did you download the script ? Install xdialog to make it work... :)
[06:08] <volvoguy> i'm doing raid1 on a hoary machine and it rocks. :)
[06:08] <goldenfox> hahaha...
[06:08] <sproingie> raid-1 is common for small servers, and it's usually software raid
[06:09] <Gatton> sm, have you tried opening in Open Office? not sure if it understands Works or not though
[06:09] <Thewarmachine> can someone direct me to a cvs repo
[06:09] <goldenfox> software raid?
[06:09] <Thewarmachine> or send me the source
[06:09] <Thewarmachine> ?
[06:09] <desrt> Thewarmachine; use apt-get source
[06:09] <sproingie> raid 4 and 5 use expensive hardware controllers for big servers
[06:09] <sm> Gatton: 1.1 doesn't at least, nor abiword
[06:09] <desrt> Thewarmachine; apt-get source f-spot
[06:09] <desrt> Thewarmachine; don't run with sudo
[06:09] <iiiears> thoreauputic - ubotu has a lot of scripts. - great teaching examples.
[06:09] <Thewarmachine> naw
[06:09] <sproingie> or for people who really want fast reliable access to their pr0n
[06:09] <sm> abiword looks otherwise perfect for this guy
[06:09] <Gatton> sm, yea i assumed OOo would be able to
[06:10] <volvoguy> sproingie, or paranoid people who want flac backups of their cd collection. ;)
[06:10] <Thewarmachine> ive got 0.0.13
[06:10] <Thewarmachine> that isnt in repo yet
[06:10] <Thewarmachine> i want 0.1.0
[06:11] <Thewarmachine> you know, I am pretty accomplished linuxwise
[06:11] <garyc> Hey can someone tell me how to share my printer
[06:11] <goldenfox> UBUNTU --> Fontconfig error - cannot load default config file?
[06:11] <sm> click click click! ah the joy of debian/ubuntu!
[06:11] <Thewarmachine> I just pester to gain an in-depth understanding
[06:11] <killahkosha> Ubuntu does dvd burning and all that right?
[06:11] <killahkosha> without too much difficulty?
[06:11] <TheGnome> 0.1.0      ..................  what app is it
[06:11] <Thewarmachine> so I apologize if im a nuisance
[06:11] <Thewarmachine> fspt thegnome
[06:11] <garyc> sm - do you know how to to share a printer after samba is in
[06:11] <alie> f_newton, works ?
[06:11] <Thewarmachine> f-spot
[06:12] <iiiears> ubotu tell garyc about samba
[06:12] <f_newton> not yet
[06:12] <TheGnome> Thewarmachine, what is that?
[06:12] <sm> no, sorry
[06:12] <alie> ok
[06:12] <killahkosha> printers, crap, forgot about those, Ubuntu comes with drivers for laser printers?
[06:12] <ksmurf> I'm trying to setup the Nvidia driver on breezy.  Any hints or warnings b4 I start ? Please?
[06:12] <Thewarmachine> photo album thinger
[06:12] <Thewarmachine> I love it
[06:12] <dannyu502_> Can someone please help me by telling em how to fix this: Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/build;  give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make
[06:12] <iiiears> !nvidia-glx
[06:12] <ubotu> iiiears: Are you smoking crack?
[06:13] <volvoguy> ksmurf, the drive in universe or the one from nVidia/
[06:13] <Thewarmachine> !crack
[06:13] <ubotu> The primary cause of people asking me the wrong things.
[06:13] <Thewarmachine> lol
[06:13] <DanusMcAnus> lol
[06:13] <goldenfox> some package failed when setting up ubuntu... is it normal?
[06:13] <dannyu502_> Can someone please help me by telling em how to fix this: Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-686/build;  give the path to kernel sources with KSRC=<path> argument to make
[06:13] <dannyu502_> me*
[06:13] <Thewarmachine> you need to estract kernel source
[06:13] <dannyu502_> how
[06:14] <Thewarmachine> and make symbolic lnks
[06:14] <IcemanV9> awesome; f-spot is made for gnome desktop
[06:14] <crimsun> dannyu502_: you need to install 'linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[06:14] <dannyu502_> crimsum, how do I do that
[06:14] <crimsun> dannyu502_: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:14] <thoreauputic> dannyu502_: if you are compiling a driver,  do  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:14] <Thewarmachine> iceman where can I get the source for 0.1.0
[06:14] <Thewarmachine> >
[06:14] <Thewarmachine> because I can't get it off the webpage
[06:14] <IcemanV9> Thewarmachine: http://www.gnome.org/projects/f-spot/
[06:15] <thoreauputic> dannyu502_: heh - or what crimsun said (same result)
[06:15] <goldenfox> how much time does it take to install ubuntu?
[06:15] <dannyu502_> crimsum, toreauputic lol ok which 1
[06:15] <ksmurf> volvo?
[06:15] <ksmurf> volvoguy?
[06:15] <IcemanV9> hmm. error page
[06:15] <volvoguy> ksmurf, my card is now unsupported in the current drive (which is the one in universe), so i can't speak on that. i occasionally try to build the latest driver (for my card) from Nvidia and it's only worked once.
[06:15] <f_newton> nope it just doesnt work.
[06:15] <DanusMcAnus> goldenfox: 20min for me
[06:15] <f_newton> tsk
[06:15] <alie> ok wait
[06:15] <f_newton> and this is such a nice distro too
[06:15] <alie> what file you are making a link to ?
[06:15] <goldenfox> oh
[06:15] <thoreauputic> dannyu502_: either - aptitude is a better choice probably :)
[06:15] <supernix> when will they have the SATA issue resolved ?
[06:15] <alie> f_newton, what file you are making link to ?
[06:16] <TheGnome> ubuntu rules
[06:16] <Thewarmachine> yeah iceman this sucks
[06:16] <Thewarmachine> ubuntu does rule
[06:16] <goldenfox> TheGnome: I'm a KDE user
[06:16] <f_newton> alie, what are you trying to say?
[06:16] <TheGnome> Thewarmachine, did you try the source
[06:16] <IcemanV9> Thewarmachine: i got "connection failure error"
[06:16] <alie> libjavaplugin_oji.so
[06:16] <Thewarmachine> the source for what
[06:16] <f_newton> ubuntu is a linux distro kids its not a king it doesnt rule squat and you should not worship it
[06:16] <TheGnome> goldenfox, yeah thats cool...... i like kde too
[06:16] <IcemanV9> guess trw is better day to try it again :/
[06:16] <Thewarmachine> iceman i got the same error
[06:17] <alie> f_newton, this file should be linked as a symbolic link
[06:17] <TheGnome> f_newton, shut up
[06:17] <TheGnome> f_newton, i worship as i like
[06:17] <f_newton> childish
[06:17] <TheGnome> f_newton, i worship debian actually....
[06:17] <Thewarmachine> f-newton stop trolling
[06:17] <goldenfox> f_newton: are you a fedora user?
[06:17] <f_newton> excuse me? accusing me of trolling?
[06:17] <Thewarmachine> probably
[06:17] <alie> f_newton, it is simple to configure and what you dont know then you dont say on that but no one worship it
[06:17] <Thewarmachine> *thewarmachine sniggers*
[06:18] <alie> f_newton, once you know you will like it
[06:18] <dannyu502_> thoreauputic, crimsun, I recieve this message: root@ubuntu:/usr/src/ndiswrapper-1.2# apt-get install linux-headers-$(2.6.10-5-686)     bash: 2.6.10-5-686: command not found
[06:18] <Thewarmachine> thoreauputic can I have one!?!?
[06:18] <alie> f_newton, you are linux user be patient ;)
[06:18] <volvoguy> ksmurf, you can't really hurt anything by trying. if it fails, just edit your xorg.conf file really quick and restart x. i kinda wouldn't expect it to work personally, considering the current state of breezy.
[06:18] <TheGnome> oh the n00b f_newton is pissed
[06:18] <Thewarmachine> lol thegnome
[06:18] <f_newton> alie ive probably been using linux longer then youve been alive
[06:18] <ksmurf> Kay I'll try
[06:18] <Angel-SL> :/
[06:18] <crimsun> dannyu502_: no, don't put 2.6.10-5-686 inside $()
[06:18] <Angel-SL> I git the LIVE cd
[06:18] <Thewarmachine> then f-newton don't be such an elitist pig
[06:18] <Angel-SL> just
[06:18] <thoreauputic> dannyu502_: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)   (literally)
[06:19] <Thewarmachine> look whos l337
[06:19] <volvoguy> ksmurf, let us know how it goes. :)
[06:19] <Thewarmachine> lol
[06:19] <Angel-SL> IT DOENT boot!
[06:19] <dannyu502_> oooooo lol
[06:19] <f_newton> you children are impossible
[06:19] <Thewarmachine> I AM YOUR GOD
[06:19] <Thewarmachine> MUAHAHAH
[06:19] <f_newton> and you Thewarmachine are offensive and rude
[06:19] <TheGnome> f_newton, you old men are impossible .......... look at how you are acting
[06:19] <Thewarmachine> But for the good of the channel lets stay on topic
[06:20] <TheGnome> yes ....on topic please
[06:20] <volvoguy> Angel-SL, it doesn't boot at all, or does it boot and fail at some point?
[06:20] <thoreauputic> guys, ----> /j #flamewars
[06:20] <f_newton> ah whats the matter kids? you want to poke but yer too afraid to get poked?
[06:20] <f_newton> yep debianites all right
[06:20] <TheGnome> f_newton, how about this..........your gonna die way before me.........LOL
[06:20] <Thewarmachine> LOL
[06:21] <f_newton> yes but I lived a life
[06:21] <iiiears> larts all
[06:21] <Thewarmachine> a miserable one
[06:21] <crimsun> this is digressing into off-topic flaming. Keep the discussion apropos to Ubuntu support issues.
[06:21] <TheGnome> yeah but i have one still to live
[06:21] <f_newton> I didnt pretend one in front of a crt
[06:21] <TheGnome> neither do i
[06:21] <Thewarmachine> you jealous?1
[06:21] <f_newton> not of dweebs no
[06:21] <crimsun> f_newton: / Thewarmachine: / TheGnome: that means all of you.
[06:21] <Thewarmachine> ok as I was saying
[06:21] <Thewarmachine> crimsun I wasnt trying to
[06:22] <Thewarmachine> read my earlier messages
[06:22] <crimsun> feel free to flame away in #ubuntu-offtopic, but keep this channel on-topic.
[06:22] <f_newton> is there a room where I can get relevant answers to my problems or must I just take it somewhere else?
[06:22] <Thewarmachine> I dont want to lol
[06:22] <alie> how to configure xfce as my default desktop ?
[06:22] <iiiears> ahem - please add to the helpful converstion here. - crimsun (a channel op) just offered a friendly reminder
[06:22] <crimsun> alie: sudo aptitude install xfce4
[06:23] <Thewarmachine> what do you need f_newton
[06:23] <alie> i just did apt-get xfce
[06:23] <crimsun> alie: then just choose Xfce from the GDM Session menu
[06:23] <Thewarmachine> perhaps I can be of some help
[06:23] <alie> oh ok
[06:23] <crimsun> alie: no, not 'xfce'.  I installed the bin, ran the symlink and it simply wont work.
[06:24] <alie> crimsun, thanks for the help
[06:24] <iiiears> linux users are often sleep deprived getting their box to work "just right" - lol
[06:24] <TheGnome> f_newton, in firefox
[06:24] <TheGnome> f_newton, ?
[06:24] <crimsun> f_newton: I think you'll find the package 'java-package', which is in multiverse, to be of use.
[06:24] <f_newton> the hoary extras repo is dead so I cant use the synaptic way
[06:24] <^thehatsrule^> hmm... lol i always use apt-get etc... whats teh diff btwn aptitude and the others?
[06:24] <Thewarmachine> one of them is
[06:24] <killahkosha> Err wow, haven't burned a cd in a long time, for burning the install iso should it be disc-at-once or track-at-once?
[06:24] <Angel-SL> volvoguy: it says Boot from CD: and i press ENTER but it boots into the hdd instead
[06:24] <f_newton> crimsun I have to build it?
[06:24] <Thewarmachine> but the mirrormax one is intact
[06:24] <crimsun> ^thehatsrule^: aptitude tends to be more intelligent regarding dependencies and recommendations.
[06:25] <crimsun> f_newton: java-package takes care of generating a deb from the rpm or tgz that you download.
[06:25] <iiiears> aptitude is a bit smarter at getting all the packages you need
[06:25] <^thehatsrule^> hm, just wondering, would synaptic be using aptitude then?
[06:25] <volvoguy> f_newton, i think i used the instructions on the wiki. the version hasn't changed significantly since that was written has it?
[06:25] <amonkey> i'm trying to install gst-jpeg2000 for gaim-vv and i keep getting qpaintdevice errors. anyone kow what that is?
[06:25] <volvoguy> Angel-SL, Hoary or Breezy?
[06:25] <Angel-SL> 5.**
[06:25] <TheGnome> f_newton, ive been using linux a whole 3 months and have java working flawless.........mr..."ive been using linux before you were born"
[06:25] <Angel-SL> eh
[06:25] <f_newton> I used the standard installation of the bin and creating a symlink
[06:25] <Angel-SL> the hedgehog
[06:26] <f_newton> I could alien -d a rpm if that would work
[06:26] <Thewarmachine> or alien -d -i
[06:26] <budluva> can anyone suggest a good sfv checker?
[06:26] <f_newton> TheGnome, i have java working in redhat, mdk, suse etc
[06:27] <volvoguy> Angel-SL, so you get the splash screen, hit enter, and it goes straight into whatever you have on your hdd?
[06:27] <TheGnome> f_newton, yeah the pussy distro's
[06:27] <budluva> i know of a good windows sfv checker, but none for linux
[06:27] <crimsun> budluva: cfv
[06:27] <iiiears> md5sum?
[06:27] <f_newton> TheGnome, be careful who you fk withy\
[06:27] <volvoguy> TheGnome, dude. chill.
[06:27] <budluva> crimsun, thanks
[06:27] <crimsun> budluva: or more generally, apt-cache search sfv
[06:27] <crimsun> budluva: (or aptitude search sfv)
[06:27] <Angel-SL> volvoguy: it just sayd Boot From CD: i hit enter and it boots into windows which is in my hdd
[06:27] <TheGnome> f_newton, are you threatening me?
[06:27] <PurpleMotion> i have java working just fine in ubuntu
[06:28] <PurpleMotion> just follow the wiki
[06:28] <Gatton> goodnight ubuntu worshippers
[06:28] <Thewarmachine> thegnome: i think I smell a challenge.....
[06:28] <thoreauputic> TheGnome: just drop it - it's tedious and distracting
[06:28] <Gatton> and you too f_newton ;)
[06:28] <PurpleMotion> are you two actually going to get into an online penis waving contest? i mean comeon people.. how old are we here?
[06:28] <garyc> read the stuff at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba  still can't share my printer
[06:28] <TheGnome> ok bitch to me becuase i get threatened
[06:28] <killahkosha> Yeah my printer is totally lacking Linux support, blah
[06:28] <f_newton> ya know... aww forget it.  its not worth the trouble of dealing with you pinhead
[06:28] <Thewarmachine> purplemotion: you would too if yours was as large as mine
[06:28] <iiiears> TheGnome - Relax, - get a cold drink and don't worry. easy to be ignored here difficult to be booted.
[06:28] <Thewarmachine> lol
[06:29] <Angel-SL> volvoguy: hello?
[06:29] <Thewarmachine> i apologize
[06:29] <volvoguy> Angel-SL, i have to say i've never seen that happen before. it'll take someone smarter than me to troubleshoot that.
[06:29] <PurpleMotion> Thewarmachine:  your sister isnt complaining ;)
[06:29] <Thewarmachine> shes dead thanks
[06:29] <PurpleMotion> that always sucks when it backfires on you
[06:29] <PurpleMotion> my bad
[06:29] <Angel-SL> volvoguy: i think something is wrong with the burn.
[06:29] <garyc> I have samba and shared folders - printer is installed  but can't figure out how to share printer
[06:29] <iiiears> the ignore button is worn shiny - doh!
[06:29] <Angel-SL> i used RAW
[06:29] <Thewarmachine> its ok
[06:29] <Angel-SL> not TAO or whatever is there
[06:30] <Angel-SL> i have 2 machines now
[06:30] <Angel-SL> 3rd one is debian
[06:30] <crimsun> Angel-SL: (I burn isos using DAO)
[06:30] <TheGnome> ok sorry guys.........but it seems like you guys are a little pissy
[06:30] <PurpleMotion> i always answer with "I don't have a sister, just a feminine brother, you fscking qu...." welly ou get the idea
[06:30] <garyc> share printer on a windows network?????
[06:30] <volvoguy> Angel-SL, what are you using to burn it? i use nero at 4x speed (as slow as it'll go) and DAO (disc at once). burn speed seems to really effect the final disc for some reason.
[06:30] <ksmurf> !nvidia breezy
[06:30] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, ksmurf
[06:31] <ksmurf> !breezy
[06:31] <ubotu> somebody said breezy was the next version of Ubuntu (5.10); released October 2005. It can and will be broken, and can damage your system. Differences between Hoary & Breezy: http://members.home.nl/jeroen-91/ubuntu/breezy-new/
[06:31] <Angel-SL> i use 40x, k3b (i use linux to do stuff
[06:31] <Angel-SL> )
[06:31] <PurpleMotion> volvoguy:  for some reason? it should be pretty obvious.. the slower the burn speed, the more time the laser gets to spend burning in each bit...
[06:31] <volvoguy> ksmurf, no nvidia love i take it?
[06:31] <garyc> share printer on a windows network?????  -  got to be a command sudo smb??????
[06:31] <PurpleMotion> the faster you burn, the 'lighter' an impression it makes
[06:31] <ksmurf> vovlvoguy no nvidia love
[06:31] <^thehatsrule^> garyc: you have to config it first afaik
[06:31] <ksmurf> :<
[06:31] <Angel-SL> well
[06:31] <Angel-SL> speed i used is auto
[06:31] <volvoguy> PurpleMotion, well yeah, there's that. ubuntu seems to be more picky than other things though.
[06:32] <Angel-SL> so k3b takes 40x out
[06:32] <PurpleMotion> volvoguy:  here, here
[06:32] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, very untrue
[06:32] <garyc> thehatsrule:  how
[06:32] <iiiears> garyc - did the ubuntuguide.org  page help?
[06:32] <garyc> no
[06:32] <Thewarmachine> psp is based on bsd!?!?!
[06:32] <Angel-SL> :o
[06:32] <PurpleMotion> TheGnome:  very true. i promise. and it's stright fromt he guys at plextor :) they use it as a selling point that their lasers produce MORE power the faster you burn to provide a consistent burn quality across different speeds
[06:33] <garyc> I read it all  no help
[06:33] <volvoguy> Angel-SL, i haven't used k3b yet, but i've burned iso's with gnomebaker at 4x that have worked ok.
[06:33] <ksmurf> volvoguy now for my next trick the n00b tries and install the nvidia driver.  time to be pwned by my computer.
[06:33] <Angel-SL> but the guys at #Debian recommended k3b
[06:33] <garyc> samba claims to be a file and print server
[06:33] <PurpleMotion> This is my kung-fu, and it is strong.
[06:33] <TheGnome> PurpleMotion, yeah cuz they want you to buy there stuff...lol you sucker
[06:34] <ksmurf> TheGnome was it you compiling the nvidia kernal yesterday?
[06:34] <^thehatsrule^> garyc: well ive used it... but i used lineighborhood as a gui to conf mine
[06:34] <volvoguy> ksmurf, it's pretty straightforward. just run the installer and edit xorg.conf. you may want to uninstall the breezy universe version first though.
[06:34] <killahkosha> ok, looking all around in the installer, how do i resize ntfs partition?
[06:34] <goldenfox> how can i change the screen res of my ubuntu?
[06:34] <IcemanV9> k3b (kde app) and gnomebaker (gnome app) - both work just fine on my box