[00:00] <igniter> ignoramus: sudo copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf.1 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:00] <ignoramus> "copy: command not found"
[00:01] <igniter> ignoramus: sorry, it's cp, not copy
[00:01] <ignoramus> ok
[00:01] <ignoramus> lemme try again
[00:01] <ignoramus> "cannot start- no such file or directory"
[00:02] <BigPick> you need to flip the two filenames :P
[00:02] <dave> BigPick right well now eth0 is down now
[00:02] <ignoramus> conf.1 last?
[00:02] <BigPick> ignoramus: Indeed, its "cp SOURCE DEST"
[00:02] <[ifr0g]> bluetooth !!
[00:02] <BigPick> dave: Hmm, is that a bad thing?
[00:03] <dave> BigPick and it seems to be using IPv6 according to network tools and also there's a "wmaster0" as well as "ra0" which WAS my normal
[00:03] <ignoramus> ok, now how do i restart x without rebooting?
[00:03] <[ifr0g]> ignoramus, ctrl + alt + backspace
[00:03] <ignoramus> doesn't work from this terminal
[00:03] <dave> BigPick it is if u want me to download stuff to compile that driver
[00:03] <[ifr0g]> Anyone here uses bluetooth ?
[00:04] <BigPick> dave: Well, you'll have to download the driver.
[00:04] <dave> BigPick usb memory it is
[00:04] <dave> BigPick rt2500?
[00:04] <BigPick> dave: hmm okay, well you will need tools so lets get your eth0 up and running.
[00:04] <dave> BigPick true
[00:05] <BigPick> dave: lets try this the manual way. "sudo pkill NetworkManager" on the machine
[00:06] <dave> no idea why its down, sudo if up eth0 says nBigPick k
[00:06] <dave> BigPick k
[00:06] <BigPick> dave: sounds good, ifup it and see if it gets and ip
[00:07] <eagles0513875> !aptfix
[00:07] <ubot3> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:08] <ignoramus> How much memory should i allocate to video card (old shitty onboard ATI Radeon 340M)
[00:08] <ignoramus> in kB
[00:08] <biovore> ignoramus: how much ram on is on the card?
[00:08] <Gannondorf> I need help with graphics
[00:08] <ignoramus> 128
[00:08] <eagles0513875> ignoramus: up it another 128
[00:08] <eagles0513875> no games need anythign more then 256
[00:09] <eagles0513875> at least not yet
[00:09] <[ifr0g]> My cant find my cell on the input device list ?
[00:09] <ignoramus> so... in kB.... thats ?
[00:09] <dave> BigPick we're up cos randomly there was duplicate in /etc/interfaces or whatever
[00:09] <eagles0513875> not sure
[00:09] <ignoramus> (i have problems with kB and KB)
[00:09] <BigPick> dave: Sweet
[00:09] <eagles0513875> night guys im out ofr the morning lol
[00:09] <eagles0513875> 2am here
[00:09] <igniter> ignoramus: still having problems? try another conf.x file --> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:09] <biovore> Kb or KB
[00:10] <dave> BigPick so what we d/ling
[00:10] <biovore> bits or bites
[00:10] <Gannondorf> BigPick: I have more problems that are worse than last nights
[00:10] <BigPick> dave: You will need the headers for your current kernel, and build-essentials
[00:10] <BigPick> Gannondorf: What can I do to help?
[00:11] <ignoramus> @biovore: i just picked 256 and rebooted
[00:11] <Gannondorf> BigPick: Now my Ark doesn't work, and neither does the terminal codes. Only works in gnome. I'm trying to install FreeCiv in gnome right now
[00:11] <ignoramus> *crosses fingers*
[00:11] <BigPick> Gannondorf: I also remembered how I fixed the lines problem you described
[00:11] <zareliman> are there some terminal commands to upgrade to gusty ?
[00:12] <ignoramus> zareliman: can't you just upgrade via the package manager?
[00:12] <Gannondorf> And I got a huge error while doing sudo make install
[00:12] <BigPick> Gannondorf: <3 FreeCiv. You can get that with Adept you know.
[00:12] <ignoramus> i think it says "version upgrade"
[00:12] <Gannondorf> I was unaware
[00:12] <Gannondorf> But I still have troubles
[00:13] <Gannondorf> want me to give you the error message?
[00:13] <zareliman> I can, I was just wandering about something like: aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade -y
[00:13] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Sure, then lemme walk you through the fix for the weird lines.
[00:13] <ignoramus> gah! this thing *still* won't let me past terminal "cannot connect to X server"!
[00:13] <Gannondorf> kk
[00:14] <igniter> ignoramus: do this --> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.2 /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:14] <Gannondorf> checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.4.0... no
[00:14] <Gannondorf> *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
[00:14] <Gannondorf> *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
[00:14] <Gannondorf> *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
[00:14] <Gannondorf> configure: WARNING: Not checking for SDL; use --enable-client=sdl to enable
[00:14] <Gannondorf> checking for X... no
[00:14] <Gannondorf> checking whether Xfuncproto was supplied... no, found:  FUNCPROTO=15 NARROWPROTO
[00:14] <Gannondorf> configure: WARNING: Not checking for XAW; use --enable-client=xaw to enable
[00:14] <Gannondorf> configure: error: could not guess which client to compile
[00:14] <igniter> ignoramus:  then restart
[00:14] <hangthedj> !paste
[00:14] <ubot3> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[00:14]  * Dr_Willis sighs
[00:14] <BigPick> wow, there, pastebin is your friend my man
[00:14] <igniter> ignoramus:  reconfiguring X is an unnecessary pain
[00:14] <Gannondorf> wow
[00:14] <Gannondorf> i was unaware
[00:14] <[ifr0g]> How do i install older version of any package ?
[00:14] <dave> BigPick we're go
[00:15] <Gannondorf> !freeciv
[00:15] <ubot3> Factoid freeciv not found
[00:15] <Dr_Willis> I like the Freecolanization clone thats out. :)
[00:15] <BigPick> dave: sweet, okay get the tarball for your driver, which you probably did, and unpack it.
[00:16] <Tm_T> [ifr0g]: if you dont have local copy, well, though luck, repositories doesnt keep old copies
[00:16] <[ifr0g]> darn.
[00:16] <Gannondorf> BigPick: So what do I do?
[00:16] <zareliman> can someone help me with this session stuff? I still can't get KDE4 working as an option on logon screen
[00:17] <Ace2016> [ifr0g]: what package is it?
[00:17] <ignoramus> ifr0g: check sourceforge.net for older release versions
[00:17] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Well, thats an awsome error. What were you trying to do?
[00:17] <ignoramus> adept/terminal will warn you're installing an older version, but go ahead
[00:18] <Gannondorf> BigPick: trying to sudo make install freeciv
[00:18] <dave> BigPick right so what i'm typing?
[00:18] <[ifr0g]> !kbluetoothd
[00:18] <ubot3> Factoid kbluetoothd not found
[00:19] <ignoramus> igniter: i tried to copy xconf, and restarted kdm, now just blank screen... ?
[00:19] <Gannondorf> !kbluetooth
[00:19] <ubot3> Factoid kbluetooth not found
[00:19] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Yeah, don't worry about it. Just use "sudo apt-get freeciv-client-gtk"
[00:19] <Ace2016> what version of kbluetoothd?
[00:20] <BigPick> dave: Well I'm not sure on the particulars, but starting with "./configure" is pretty standard.
[00:20] <BigPick> dave: thats the usual automagical way to configure your Makefiles
[00:20] <Gannondorf> BigPick: so what do I do about thte lines?
[00:21] <Ace2016> BigPick: nope :D its usually      nano README
[00:21] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Don't worry about them, they are there because you don't have the proper libraries installed to compile freeciv from source. Just download the binaries.
[00:22] <dwidmann> Hmm, seems the encryption option on the gutsy cd is more or less broken :(
[00:22] <BigPick> Ace2016: Good point.
[00:22] <Ace2016> i can't believe the next ubuntu will be called hardy, man these names are starting to suck,
[00:22] <Gannondorf> BigPick: not those lines, the graphics lines thing from last night
[00:22] <igniter> ignoramus: hit ctrl+alt+f1 to get a terminal
[00:22] <BigPick> dave: As Ace2016 said, checking the readme is an awsome way to start.
[00:22] <ignoramus> k
[00:22] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Oh yeah! Okay, this took me months to figure out.
[00:23] <Gannondorf> Then thank His Noodly Master that you are here
[00:23] <ignoramus> igniter: no dice. i'm still at the black prompt screen, not being able to connect to X server
[00:23] <BigPick> Gannondorf: And I may not be remembering what I did correctly, so this may take a couple tries.
[00:23] <Ace2016> !kdebluetooth
[00:23] <ubot3> kdebluetooth: KDE Bluetooth Framework. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0~beta8-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 868 kB, installed size 3888 kB
[00:23] <ignoramus> any other helpful advice?
[00:23] <ardchoille> Gannondorf: Any reason you're compiling freeciv instead of installing it from the repos?
[00:23] <[ifr0g]> !find kbluetoothd
[00:24] <ubot3> Package/file kbluetoothd does not exist in gutsy
[00:24] <[ifr0g]> !find kbluetooth
[00:24] <ubot3> Found: libkbluetooth-dev, libkbluetooth0
[00:24] <BigPick> Gannondorf: I did this two years ago so bear with me
[00:24] <Gannondorf> ardchoille: I'm done with that. And I was unaware it was in the repos
[00:24] <igniter> ignoramus: do this --> go inside /etc/X11 and do a ls -o
[00:24] <ignoramus> k
[00:24] <Ace2016> [ifr0g]: what version are you looking for? trying to use feisty's one with gutsy or what?
[00:24] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Okay, it turns out that the neomagic video cards don
[00:24] <BigPick> Gannondorf:'t handle transparency well.
[00:24] <Gannondorf> BigPick: Am I gonna have to be in KDE to do this?
[00:25] <Gannondorf> I'm in GNOME right now
[00:25] <igniter> ignoramus: use a conf.x file with a date before you installed envy
[00:25] <ignoramus> igniter: "go: command not found"
[00:25] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Nope, just have a terminal window open.
[00:25] <igniter> ignoramus: cd /etc/X11
[00:25] <ignoramus> k
[00:25] <Gannondorf> k
[00:25] <igniter> ignoramus: ls -o
[00:26] <BigPick> Gannondorf: We are going to reconfigure xserver-xorg, and when it asks you about the bit-depth stop and tell me what your options are.
[00:26] <Gannondorf> now what
[00:26] <Gannondorf> oh
[00:26] <ignoramus> igniter: now i see a bunch of options with dates... what do i type?
[00:26] <Gannondorf> BigPick: how do I do that?
[00:26] <ignoramus> i see a good xorg.conf ... how do i load that one?
[00:26] <BigPick> Gannondorf: so "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[00:26] <igniter> ignoramus: look for a xorg.conf.x file that has an earlier date that the day on when you installed envy
[00:27] <ignoramus> will a .bak file do?
[00:27] <ignoramus> *xorg.conf.bak
[00:27] <ignoramus> i mean
[00:27] <igniter> should, try that one
[00:27] <ignoramus> k- what do i actually type?>
[00:27] <igniter> just be sure it's not too old
[00:27] <ignoramus> it's not
[00:27] <ignoramus> what's the command?
[00:27] <igniter> sudo cp xorg.conf.bak xorg.conf
[00:28] <Gannondorf> BigPick: So do I just ok through everything until then?
[00:28] <ignoramus> ok... now reboot?
[00:28] <igniter> yes
[00:28] <ardchoille> ignoramus: reboot?
[00:28] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Yup, everything else should be okay.
[00:28] <ardchoille> Why not just restart xorg?
[00:29] <ignoramus> i've been trying everything... rebooting now
[00:29] <igniter> ardchoille: what's the command to just restart x?
[00:29] <BigPick> Gannondorf: I forget the exact bit depth, but its an odd value, turns out the Neomagic cards don't handle "alpha channels" properly.
[00:29] <ignoramus> my xorg file got changed by envy
[00:29] <Gannondorf> BigPick: It's asking me about amount of memory to be used by the video card
[00:29] <ignoramus> ....that's how this whole mess happened
[00:29] <ignoramus> (well, i let it)
[00:30] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Don't worry about that, just keep going.
[00:30] <ignoramus> igniter: YOU ARE THE BEST!
[00:30] <ardchoille> ignoramus: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[00:30] <Gannondorf> BigPick: It's blank
[00:30] <ignoramus> i owe you many beers
[00:30] <ignoramus> Thank you all!
[00:30] <ignoramus> this is by far the best irc i've ever visited
[00:30] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Yeah, I know, the driver doesn't recognize it properly, putting something there doesn't make any difference.
[00:31]  * Dr_Willis cries tears of joy
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> we'll send you our bill....
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> :
[00:31] <Dr_Willis> :)
[00:31] <ignoramus> igniter: now will i have to change anything, or will it just use the good xorg.conf file?
[00:32] <Dr_Willis> So let clarify this  - envy set up somthing wrongly?
[00:32] <ignoramus> yup
[00:32] <igniter> ignoramus: with that cp command you overwrote the old broke file, with a well configured one
[00:32] <ignoramus> i tried to install the propriety ATI driver
[00:32] <ignoramus> igniter: so i'm all good now?
[00:32] <igniter> nothing else to change
[00:32] <ignoramus> :)
[00:32] <igniter> yes
[00:33] <ignoramus> yeah, so Envy tried to install ATI driver, gave an error message, and then asked to overwrite xorg.conf (which it "recommended")
[00:33] <Gannondorf> BigPick: what exactly will it say when it is ready?
[00:33] <igniter> do a backup for the actual xorg.conf file, put something like xorg.conf-THISONEWORKS, use the cp command to do so
[00:33] <ignoramus> i said, "well, if it's "recommended..."
[00:33] <igniter> next time you cant access X you know what to do
[00:33] <ignoramus> good idea.
[00:34] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Did you get to the part that asks about bit depth?
[00:34] <ignoramus> igniter: can i just copy and paste?
[00:34] <Gannondorf> hang on
[00:34] <BigPick> Gannondorf: It will give you a list of possilbe depths to use
[00:34] <ignoramus> i don't know how to create a backup of a file
[00:34] <igniter> ignoramus: not really, you don't hve root access to that folder from konqueror
[00:35] <ignoramus> i see
[00:35] <ignoramus> is it easy to create a backup of that file
[00:35] <ignoramus> ?
[00:35] <Gannondorf> BigPick: I'm at resolution selection screen, can I select more than I have?
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> ignoramus,  in less time then it took you to type that line. :)
[00:36] <igniter> go to a terminal and type this: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-THISONEWORKS
[00:36] <BigPick> Gannondorf: You can.
[00:36] <Gannondorf> cool
[00:36] <ignoramus> i got it now.  I never used the "cp" command before.  I think it's sunk in.
[00:36] <BigPick> Gannondorf: But be careful, only select the ones you KNOW the laptop can use
[00:36] <dave> BigPick ive got the latest tarball/CVS and "make" it, and "make install" but no joy
[00:37] <ignoramus> i learned something toda
[00:37] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Otherwise it can error and die.
[00:37] <igniter> ignoramus: not to mess with X?
[00:37] <ignoramus> yeah :/
[00:37] <BigPick> dave: okay, now you need to load the new module into your kernel.
[00:37] <igniter> now you can, just have a backup at hand
[00:37] <Gannondorf> BigPick: It says color depth in bits
[00:38] <ignoramus> i've been on linux (kubuntu) for like one month - i have a LOT to learn
[00:38] <ignoramus> but it's much more rewarding than using my Windows box
[00:38] <ignoramus> ...although i'm on the MS box now, so i guess it does have some benefits ;)
[00:38] <dave> BigPick how
[00:38] <BigPick> dave: try "sudo modprobe rt61" or something. I don't know what your new module will be called.
[00:39] <Gannondorf> BigPick: It says color depth in bits
[00:39] <BigPick> Gannondorf: I heard you, what are the options?
[00:39] <Gannondorf> um
[00:39] <ignoramus> Once again, thanks all (especially igniter) and have a great night
[00:39] <ignoramus> exit
[00:39] <ignoramus> woops
[00:39] <BigPick> dave: The readme should say what the resulting module name should be.
[00:39] <Gannondorf> 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 24
[00:40] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Okay, use 15.
[00:40] <Gannondorf> BigPick: It exited
[00:40] <BigPick> Gannondorf: okay, no errors right?
[00:40] <Gannondorf> nope
[00:41] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Good. now you need to restart your X server. I don't know the command way in gnome...
[00:42] <Gannondorf> just tell me the kde way
[00:42] <BigPick> Gannondorf: hitting Cntrl+Alt+Backspace should do it.
[00:42] <Gannondorf> okay
[00:42] <Gannondorf> lemme switch to kde
[00:42] <Gannondorf> brb
[00:42] <dave> BigPick right it says nowt on modprbe rt2500
[00:43] <dave> soo ?
[00:43] <BigPick> dave: go for it :)
[00:43] <BigPick> dave: "sudo modprobe rt2500"
[00:43] <dave> BigPick it dont do owt
[00:44] <BigPick> dave: Does it give an error?
[00:44] <dave> BigPick no, doesnt say anything
[00:44] <Dr_Willis> dmesg dont say anyhing about the module loading?
[00:45] <BigPick> Yeah, dmesg should say if it loaded or not.
[00:45] <Gannondorf> BigPick: So what do I do again?
[00:46] <BigPick> Gannondorf: well if your in kde just run "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[00:49] <nicon-> hello, i got problem, my dwl-g510 wlan card don't want to work, what can i do?
[00:49] <BigPick> dave: You okay man? It should be like the last thing in dmesg.
[00:50] <dave> BigPick no joy yet justlet me check dmesg
[00:50] <nicon-> hello, i got problem, my dwl-g510 wlan card don't want to work, what can i do?
[00:50] <BigPick> dave: well no news is good news run "iwconfig" and see if anything comes up
[00:51] <nicon-> can smb help me?
[00:51] <BigPick> nicon: Are you running Feisty of gutsy?
[00:51] <nicon-> gutsy
[00:51] <BigPick> nicon: Allright, lemme check some things. I don't have any experience with that card.
[00:51] <dave> BigPick yeah ra0 comes up with stuff..what next???
[00:52] <nicon-> BigPick: when i type iwconfig it finds this card...
[00:52] <Gannondorf> BigPick: Your a genius
[00:52] <igniter> I'm having problems with USB transfer speeds since I installed Feisty for the first time, now I'm running Gutsy and the problems are there still. It'll start at a good transfer speed, then after a couple of minutes the speed starts to fluctuate a lot, transfering a 700mb file can take up to 10min on an USB 2.0 port, any idea on what may be the problem?
[00:52] <BigPick> dave: w00t!
[00:52] <nicon-> but when i try to find dhcp, dont c any results...
[00:52] <nicon-> so i type im manually
[00:52] <nicon-> it*
[00:52] <BigPick> Okay, manually configuring wireless cards from the terminal is very difficult.
[00:52] <dave> BigPick ive jsut had a new boiler with RF thermostat, who's guessing its on the same channel?
[00:53] <nicon-> BigPick: i mean from administration panel
[00:53] <Gannondorf> BigPick: Your a genius
[00:53] <BigPick> Gannondorf: :)
[00:53] <Gannondorf> It worked!
[00:53] <Gannondorf> yay!
[00:53] <BigPick> Gannondorf: Glad I remembered it :)
[00:53] <nicon-> BigPick: what can i do?
[00:53] <BigPick> Okay dave and nicon.
[00:53] <nicon-> <:
[00:53] <nicon-> i'm so tired...
[00:54] <BigPick> I want you both to restart your NetworkManagers. To do this run "sudo /etc/init.d/dbus restart"
[00:54] <BigPick> You will also have to restart knetworkmanager
[00:54] <nicon-> done
[00:54] <dave> BigPick nicon?
[00:55] <nicon-> dave: he mean u and me [;
[00:55] <BigPick> Yeah the both of you :)
[00:55] <BigPick> Now knetwork manager should appear as an icon in the bottom right hand corner of your screens in the taskbar.
[00:56] <nicon-> BigPick: i can't c
[00:56] <BigPick> nicon: then in a terminal run "knetworkmanager"
[00:57] <nicon-> BigPick: done
[00:57] <BigPick> something should show up looking like a connection or something.
[00:58] <BigPick> If you click on it, a connection summary will pop up.
[00:58] <nicon-> yep
[00:58] <nicon-> and?
[00:58] <dave> BigPick nope, no active device :(
[00:58] <dope> so when i try to boot from the cd i get a "no emulation" msg, i've booted from this same cd on another computer no problem
[00:58] <nicon-> i got here eth0 + ra1
[00:58] <BigPick> dave: your going to need to exit knetworkmanager and restart it from terminal
[00:59] <BigPick> nicon: by right-clicking on that icon, you should get a list of wireless networks
[00:59] <nicon-> BigPick: got it
[01:00] <dave> BigPick no nothing. its still looping back to 169.254 etc...
[01:00] <BigPick> nicon: by clicking on one of the networks it will configure and connect.
[01:00] <nicon-> BigPick: yeah, it should connect...
[01:00] <maxther> ciao a tutti
[01:00] <nicon-> but when i try to ping router - no results
[01:01] <BonesolTeraDyne> !it | maxther
[01:01] <ubot3> maxther: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:01] <nicon-> eh...
[01:01] <maxther> ok thx
[01:01] <BigPick> dave: in a terminal run "iwlist ra1 scanning"
[01:02] <tferero> When someone on the board has a moment, I have a question regarding excessive disk spinning
[01:02] <nicon-> BigPick: so?  Did you get an ip address?
[01:02] <nicon-> BigPick: by dhcp? no :/
[01:02] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: This wouldn't have anythign to do with a laptop HD spinning like crazy, would it?
[01:03] <nicon-> i typed it manualy (<IP_ADDRESS>)_
[01:03] <dave> BigPick ra0 scanning no scan results
[01:03] <tferero> oh yeah
[01:03] <nicon-> where <IP_ADDRESS> = router
[01:03] <semistud2354> i have a bit of a problem...every time i start kubuntu...it boots but i have to hit ctrl-d to end the shell and it writes something to /var/log/fchk/checkfs
[01:03] <semistud2354> fsck 1.40.2 (12-Jul-2007)
[01:03] <semistud2354> fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=e6564bb3-7f60-4197-acc3-8bb212617121'
[01:03] <semistud2354> fsck died with exit status 8
[01:03] <tferero> it does, but my questions relate to  the fix proposed
[01:03] <BigPick> nicon: well, setting up a static ip with wireless is tricky
[01:03] <semistud2354> thats what it says
[01:03] <nicon-> BigPick: so, what can i do, to dhcp work?:D
[01:03] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: ah. ok. I was about to point you to the bug.
[01:04] <nicon-> at windows there r no problems with that :P
[01:04] <semistud2354> anyone know what to do
[01:04] <BonesolTeraDyne> Oddly, my eMachies M2352 hasn't been affected by it.
[01:04] <chovy> how do i remove a pkg that is not installed, but still thinks it is? "tovid"
[01:04] <tferero> Bones: lol - been there.  I am a newbie,  so just need some guidance.  I am going to print out a code line, then ask a question
[01:04] <sinan> hello, when i was playing with network settings i did a manual configuration once and since then i cant get back to default automatic mode does anyone have any idea how i can get that back?
[01:04] <BigPick> nicon: Okay in knetworkmanager remove that static ip and set it to use dhcp,
[01:05] <semistud2354> i partitioned my hd, then transfered files, then extended the partition back to the entire hd
[01:05] <semistud2354> but its still showing the old partition...
[01:05] <semistud2354> like where it gives me the choice to pick the partition
[01:05] <semistud2354> to boot in
[01:06] <semistud2354> i want to know how to remove that
[01:06] <tferero> Bones: $sudo hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda
[01:06] <tferero> what is the -B 255?
[01:06] <semistud2354> huh
[01:06] <BigPick> semistud2354: Okay your problem is fairly complex.
[01:07] <nicon-> BigPick: done, but still nothing :/
[01:07] <BigPick> dave: okay in a terminal try "sudo ifconfig ra1 up"
[01:07] <semistud2354> like when my computer turns on...i have to hit enter in that pick partition thing, and then hit ctrl-d
[01:07] <jdmt> #ubuntu
[01:07] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: Sadly, I don't remember off the top of my head. Hold on, I'll check
[01:07] <chovy> pkg: error processing tovid (--configure): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:07] <chovy> Errors were encountered while processing: tovid
[01:07] <chovy> how do i remove tovid?
[01:07] <tferero> Bones: thank you
[01:08] <nicon-> BigPick: when i use dhcp it gaves me ip like '169.254.bla.bla'
[01:08] <semistud2354> big pick you want me to do that
[01:08] <nicon-> :/
[01:08] <semistud2354> ??
[01:08] <nicon-> and ofc still cant work
[01:08] <tferero> Bones: I think the values run 0- 254, so 255 seemed odd
[01:08] <BigPick> nicon: allright
[01:08] <nicon-> BigPick: any idea?
[01:08] <dave> BigPick still nothing. ra1=nosuch device, ra0=nothing no reply
[01:08] <semistud2354> o nvm
[01:08] <semistud2354> so anyone have anyideas
[01:08] <semistud2354> ??
[01:09] <BigPick> nicon: you mean no ping?
[01:09] <BonesolTeraDyne> The "-B 255" switch sets the Advanced Power Management, which can go from 0-255, according to the app help (the "-h" switch).
[01:09] <BigPick> dave: oh sorry, did you try "sudo iwlist ra0 scanning"?
[01:09] <nicon-> BigPick: no ping and this weird dhcp ip-adrress
[01:09] <BigPick> well, your likely not connecting to the right network.
[01:10] <tferero> Bones: here is my concern, if I change these values and it gets worse, how do I know what my original values were?
[01:10] <dave> BigPick interface dosent support scanning: network is down
[01:10] <tferero> Bones: I am spinning at 5 t o7 times per minute which seems excessive
[01:10] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: That is excessive. Let me see what I can find out.
[01:10] <BigPick> nicon: in iwconfig, what does it list the "Access Point" as?
[01:11] <tferero> many thanks.  I read somwhere that this command line is temporary, but couldn't really confirm that
[01:11] <BigPick> dave: okay, try to reset the interface using "sudo ifconfig ra0 down" then "sudo ifconfig ra0 up"
[01:11] <nicon--> sorry, little problems
[01:12] <nicon--> so, no ping, and this weird ip
[01:12] <dave> BigPick nah tryed that
[01:12] <nicon--> when i was setting network at my home (now i set it at my friend's comp) sometimes i had the same ip
[01:12] <nicon--> and never work then
[01:12] <nicon--> this '<IP_ADDRESS>'
[01:13] <nicon--> it need to be sth like <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:13] <BigPick> nicon: Then that is the wrong network
[01:13] <dave> BigPick still no luck
[01:13] <nicon--> BigPick: eh, what can i do?
[01:14] <BigPick> dave: okay "sudo rmmod rt2500" and then "sudo modprobe -v rt2500"
[01:14] <tferero> Bones: this is the page of instructions I am leaning towards: http://ubuntudemon.wordpress.com/200...ve-killer-bug/
[01:14] <BigPick> nicon: right click on network manager and select the proper network from the list
[01:14] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: Yeah, I saw that entry as well
[01:14] <nicon--> BigPick: the list? where is this list? O_o
[01:15] <tferero> Bones: hope I am not offending you truncating your name this way? Probably should be Bonsol...lol
[01:15] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: Found the answer as to what it does.
[01:15] <nicon--> sth is weird, if i change for eg essid, then in iwconfig there is still the same essid O_o
[01:15] <nicon--> wth?
[01:15] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: it's no problem
[01:15] <BigPick> nicon: when you right-click on the knetworkmanager icon it should show a menu. Under the "Wireless Networks" heading is the list of wireless networks your card can see.
[01:15] <tferero> Bonesol
[01:16] <tferero> not typing well here
[01:16] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695/comments/16
[01:16] <ubot3> Malone bug 59695 in acpi-support "default value in power.sh potentially kills laptop disks" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[01:16] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: That states what the 255 does
[01:16] <ubuntu_lord> i could really use some help........i was trying to rename a bunch of pictuers from .JPG to .jpg and i think i did something wrong because now theyre gone
[01:16] <nicon--> BigPick: mhm, so there it are no any networks
[01:16] <dave> BigPick: ok insmod /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/extra/rt2500.ko
[01:16] <tferero> Bonesol: thanks, looking
[01:17] <ubuntu_lord> i did sudo rn *.JPG *.jpg and then  sudo mv *.JPG *.jpg
[01:17] <BigPick> nicon: trying to manually config your wireless interface will not work because of network manager
[01:17] <ubuntu_lord> and now theyre not in the directory
[01:17] <awag> BigPick, I've decided to put the contents of my 80 gb drive onto my 320 gb, and reformat the 80 and use it as my boot drive, I should be able to mount my 320 gb drive as my home directory right?
[01:17] <BigPick> nicon: in the terminal run "sudo iwlist ra1 scanning"
[01:18] <nicon--> device or resource busy
[01:18] <BigPick> dave: okay now check dmesg for any messages from the driver
[01:18] <nicon--> O_o
[01:18] <tferero> Bonesol: interesting; my laptop runs at ~45 to 50 c most of the time; could make it too hot
[01:18] <nicon--> 5 minutes ago was sth other
[01:18] <juancamilo> hi all
[01:18] <dave> BigPic, link is not ready then times out etc etc...
[01:18] <Tm_T> ubuntu_lord: hello
[01:19] <ubuntu_lord> tm_t hi
[01:19] <nicon--> ok, now i can scan...
[01:19] <Tm_T> ubuntu_lord: why this nick this time?
[01:19] <nicon--> and c sth..
[01:19] <tferero> Bonesol: maybe a compromise value like 200; I read in one of the bug reports that 0 value is extreme power mode
[01:19] <nicon--> BigPick: can i wrote to u @ priv?
[01:19] <ubuntu_lord> i forgot to change the main nick back
[01:19] <BigPick> dave: are you sure the network is active?
[01:19] <Gannondorf> Yawn
[01:19] <Gannondorf> im bored
[01:19] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: Yeah, You'd probably be safe around 200-225.
[01:20] <Gannondorf> Someone give me something to do
[01:20] <BigPick> awag: you should be able to mount it yes.
[01:20] <dave> BigPick yeap
[01:20] <tferero> Bonesol: I have one of those 'roll your eyes' questions we newbies tend to ask :)
[01:20] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: go ahead. XD
[01:20] <nicon--> BigPick: can i wrote to u @ priv?
[01:20] <BigPick> dave: and iwconfig shows the interface?
[01:21] <tferero> Bonesol: the instructions reference making an .sh file, but I don't seem to know how to do this
[01:21] <BigPick> Guys, I'm one freaking guy here.
[01:21] <awag> haha
[01:21] <nicon--> :D
[01:21] <nicon--> BigPick: please :P
[01:21] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: hold on, I'll show you.
[01:21] <awag> BigPick, don't pretend you don't have super powers
[01:21] <Gannondorf> konversation woo
[01:22] <BigPick> I do have a migrane.
[01:22] <tferero> Bonesol: many thanks; it is very much appreciated
[01:22] <nicon--> BigPick: U c a msg from me?
[01:22] <juancamilo> i got the installation cds of matlab for linux, a friend of mine, burned them using suse 10, and we use them to install it on several computers, I brougt them home to install the software on my laptop runnig kubuntu 7.1 but the cds are recognized as blank cds. I'm sure they are ok and that they are not empty, i also know that the problem is not the drive itself because I have a dual boot with windows xp and i can see the content of
[01:22] <juancamilo> the disk in windows.... any ideas?????
[01:22] <nicon--> because i got error @irc :P
[01:22] <juancamilo> anyone???
[01:22] <KingJere> could someone direct me to a good resource for getting a mp3 player to be recognized?
[01:22] <BigPick> Okay, dave. does iwconfig show your wireless card?
[01:23] <Gannondorf> KingJere: recognized in what
[01:23] <Gannondorf> Amarok?
[01:24] <KingJere> Gannondorf: just as a usb harddrive would be fine.
[01:24] <BigPick> juancamilo: I have no new ideas since yesterday.
[01:24] <dave> BigPick, yeah, iwconfig shows ra0 is there and the text network. although link quality is 0. though pda works on the wifi. just checked
[01:24] <Gannondorf> So you want to connect a usb harddrive to your computer
[01:25] <KingJere> Gannondorf: no. I bought a new mp3 player and its not even recognized as a generic storage volume.
[01:25] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42409/
[01:25] <juancamilo> BigPick: thanks tho
[01:25] <Gannondorf> hm
[01:25] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: read that. It has some simple instructions on how to make a shell script.
[01:25] <Gannondorf> try reinstalling amarok
[01:26] <Gannondorf> it should be recogzined by that
[01:26] <ubuntu_lord> can anyone help me with some missing files........i may have typed a command wrong and i dunno where they may have gone
[01:26] <KingJere> from /var/log/messages/ new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7
[01:26] <BigPick> dave: well I'm not sure then. I have no specific experience with that driver.
[01:27] <tferero> Bonesol: got it - .sh for shell script, lol - wasn't sure if there was a gui method or command line only
[01:27] <dave> BigPick well im just try a fresh install tomorrow see what happens
[01:27] <BigPick> dave: I hate to do this, but I might have to recommend you go looking at the wiki for the rt2x00 driver
[01:27] <juancamilo> I tried to mount it manually but this is what i got
[01:27] <dave> BigPick i have
[01:27] <juancamilo> juancamilo@jvasquez:~$ sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom/
[01:27] <juancamilo> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[01:27] <juancamilo> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
[01:27] <juancamilo>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[01:27] <juancamilo>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:27] <juancamilo>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:27] <Tm_T> !paste | juancamilo
[01:27] <ubot3> juancamilo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:27] <BigPick> dave: well don't fresh install the whole operating system :P
[01:28] <BigPick> dave: OH DAVE WAIT!!
[01:28] <juancamilo> sorry
[01:29] <BigPick> dave: have you used the grapgic config tool yet?
[01:29] <dave> BigPick?
[01:29] <tferero> Bonesol: are you aware of how I can tell what power management level I am currently running at now? Even with sudo hdparm -a I don't recall seeing this value
[01:29] <dave> BigPick ?
[01:30] <Angelus> is it posible to have both kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop installed?
[01:30] <juancamilo> i need some help,.... i've been trying everything but i still can get my cdrom to work propertly.
[01:30] <BigPick> dave: "sudo apt-get rt2500"
[01:31] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: Not too sure.I think it was "-C"
[01:31] <juancamilo> the proble summarices as follows: my kubuntu 7.1 will detect some cds ok, but most of them blank or as audio, and is not possible to see the contents of the disk...
[01:31] <dave> BigPick already newest version
[01:31] <tferero> Angelus: yes, I have done this but it clutters up the menus as it installs lots of stuff from the other desktop
[01:31] <BigPick> dave: good, now..
[01:32] <Angelus> what do you mean by "clutters" tferero
[01:33] <BigPick> dave: there should be a graphical config tool included, i'm not sure what it is called...
[01:33] <dave> BigPick rutilt ?
[01:33] <dave> BigPick no worky
[01:33] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: Nope, that's not it, and I don't see anythign in the help. in fact, I see everything but "Get current Advanced Power Management setting"
[01:34] <juancamilo> how can i reinstall the driver for my cd-dvd rom in kubuntu? or see if it is installed and working fine?
[01:34] <BigPick> dave: does it give an error?
[01:35] <BigPick> juancamilo: The driver is built into the linux kernel.
[01:35] <dave> BigPick yeah, cant read in socket. code: 4
[01:36] <juancamilo> BigPick: mmm, i see, look, i'm not sure if this helps or give you a clue...
[01:36] <dave> BigPick, well...i guess i should go. its late here now. will be back tomorrow.
[01:37] <dave> ta for all your help
[01:38] <BigPick> dave: okay :)
[01:38] <tferero> Angelus: it adds the gnome packages to the kde menu and vice versa, so the menus get a wee bit full
[01:38] <Angelus> oh
[01:38] <Angelus> i see
[01:38] <tferero> Bonesol: the info switch gave me this line (among others): AdvancedPM=yes: disabled (255) WriteCache=enabled
[01:39] <zeke> yo
[01:39] <dope> when trying to boot from the live cd it seems to just skip over it.  the cd rom is set to boot first in the bios but it always goes straight to grub
[01:39] <tferero> Angelus: once you install the second desktop it is not so easy to do a clean uninstall, or at least it didn't seem that way to me
[01:39] <dope> and the live cd does boot on other machines
[01:40] <tferero> Angelus: let me see if I can find a link on that for you to read about it
[01:40] <Dezine> Evening
[01:41] <juancamilo> BigPick: this is what i got after mounting it manually.... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42411/plain/
[01:41] <Angelus> thank you tferero
[01:42] <tferero> Angelus:  here is one:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[01:43] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: did you check to see if there is anything about APM in your BIOS? That's something that is mentioned in the bug.
[01:43] <BigPick> juancamilo: That error indicates that the cd has a corrupted superblock
[01:43] <BigPick> juancamilo: I feel your pain on this, I had to install mathcad and LabView on this laptop as well.
[01:43] <juancamilo> BigPick: the thing is the cd works fine under suse and kubunu....
[01:43] <Dezine> Could anyone suggest a decent alternative to Dreamweaver?
[01:44] <BonesolTeraDyne> Dezine: Kompozer.
[01:44] <tferero> Bonesol: no, hadn't done that yet
[01:44] <Dezine> Alright, I'll have to check that out, waiting for my sytem to upgrade to Gutsy
[01:44] <BonesolTeraDyne> Dezine: http://www.kompozer.net/ is the website
[01:44] <juancamilo> BigPick: just in my laptop kubuntu detects it as blank, or audio, or nothing...
[01:45] <zeke> there a channel for knoppmyth?
[01:45] <Dezine> Thanks for the info!
[01:45] <zeke> yup
[01:46] <BigPick> juancamilo: allright, well lets take a look at your cdrom then
[01:46] <juancamilo> BigPick: all right then...
[01:46] <BigPick> juancamilo: can you pastebin "sudo lspci -v"
[01:46] <tferero> Angelus: I am trying to find a reference for the clean uninstall if you were to remove one desktop or the other
[01:46] <tferero> Angelus:  I can't seem to locate it now, of course
[01:46] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: hold on, I've got the link for that
[01:47] <Angelus> tferero: well in that case i'll make a format no worries
[01:47] <Angelus> :p
[01:47] <juancamilo> BigPick: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42412/
[01:47] <tferero> Angelus:  I did that too.   I didn't ask you what distro you were running - I use Kubuntu
[01:48] <zeke> cause I try to do an aptitude dist-upgrade and it tells me I have lots of broken packages and unmet dependencies
[01:48] <BonesolTeraDyne> Angelus: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde for KDE only
[01:48] <Angelus> i use kubuntu too tferero, im a big kde fan
[01:48] <zeke> yet the packages that it says are broken work alright
[01:48] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: that the one?
[01:48] <tferero> Bonesol: I knew I saw that somewhere
[01:48] <tferero> Angelus: me too
[01:49] <BonesolTeraDyne> Angelus: same here
[01:49] <tferero> Angelus:  I looked over gnome for a bit, but liked kde better
[01:50] <tferero> Angelus: have you used linux for a long tim?  I am really new to it, but learning really fast
[01:50] <Angelus> i got adictd to kde, too nice.
[01:50] <Angelus> tferero: hmm about 7-9 months iv been using linux
[01:50] <Angelus> soemthing like that i think
[01:51] <Angelus> hmm , 7months
[01:51] <Angelus> thats it
[01:51] <BigPick> juancamilo: okay, can you run "lsmod | grep cdrom"
[01:51] <tferero> Angelus: 2 months here
[01:51] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero, Angelus: Might want to take that sort of discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic . Not sure what kind of mood the operators are in
[01:51] <tferero> Bonesol: sorry, forgot my manners
[01:52] <Angelus> there's no operators BonesolTeraDyne :p
[01:52] <Angelus> lol
[01:52] <BonesolTeraDyne> Angelus: There are, they just don't stay in operator mode at all times.
[01:52] <Angelus> oh
[01:52] <BonesolTeraDyne> Angelus: they raise to op level only when needed
[01:53] <BigPick> juancamilo: and see if the cdrom module is loaded please
[01:53] <lencho> hello
[01:53] <juancamilo> BigPick:  this is the output: cdrom                  37536  1 sr_mod
[01:53] <tferero> Bonesol:  I am thinking if my -B switch is already at 255, I am going to have to check the bios next time I log in
[01:54] <lencho> i`m a noob using kubuntu jeje it`s my first time using Konversation
[01:54] <lencho> somone speak spanish
[01:54] <BigPick> juancamilo: good, okay now "ls -la /dev/cdrom" please
[01:54] <lencho> ?
[01:54] <BigPick> lencho: english
[01:55] <lencho> okdk
[01:55] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: I hope it's the BIOS, and not somethign worse. With the way the laptop APM bug is being handled, I'd hate to see it get worse.
[01:55] <juancamilo> BigPick: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-10-27 19:15 /dev/cdrom -> scd0
[01:55] <lencho> i try my best
[01:55] <tferero> Angelus: one thing I found after installing gnome, was that there were one or two utilities I liked better so I kept those
[01:55] <tferero> But I also kept alot of other stuff I fear
[01:56] <Angelus> i never liked gnome , but kde....... love at first sight
[01:56] <tferero> Bonesol:  I second that.  This is a fairly new drive - about 8 months old and not used much before
[01:56] <Angelus> gnome is not ugly, nicer then windows, but man kde... r0ckz
[01:57] <lencho> kde is beautiful i mean
[01:57] <tferero> Bonesol; so most of the use is in the last 2 months; I have 56,000 spins already
[01:57] <lencho> yeah kde roks
[01:58] <BigPick> jauncamilo: okay, checking something...
[01:58] <danny_> i need help
[01:58] <BonesolTeraDyne> !nick
[01:58] <ubot3> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[01:58] <BonesolTeraDyne> that's not the one I wanted, though I did need that info.
[01:59] <juancamilo> BigPick: take your time
[01:59] <danny_> i need to know how to installing  programs like firefox, adobe flash
[01:59] <KingJere> !ehci_hcd
[01:59] <ubot3> Factoid ehci_hcd not found
[01:00] <KingJere> !uhci_hcd
[01:00] <ubot3> Factoid uhci_hcd not found
[01:00] <BonesolTeraDyne> !botabuse | KingJere
[01:00] <ubot3> KingJere: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:00] <crimsun_> danny_: use Adept.
[01:00] <Tm_T> !install | danny_
[01:00] <ubot3> danny_: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:00] <Tm_T> noooooo
[01:00] <Tm_T> bah
[01:00] <Tm_T> !adept | danny_
[01:00] <ubot3> danny_: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:00] <Tm_T> my bad
[01:01] <BonesolTeraDyne> Tm_T: haha. I know the feeling.
[01:01] <lencho> hey i have problem with adept
[01:01] <Tm_T> BonesolTeraDyne: I've got the feeling by Hasselhoff ?
[01:01] <Tm_T> lencho: spit it out
[01:02] <BonesolTeraDyne> Tm_T: No, and that's TMI.
[01:02] <danny_> i need  to install firefox
[01:02] <Tm_T> TMI?
[01:02] <danny_> i dont know how to
[01:02] <Tm_T> danny_: yes, use adept?
[01:02] <BonesolTeraDyne> Tm_T: Too much info...
[01:03] <Tm_T> BonesolTeraDyne: I see
[01:03] <danny_> adept?
[01:03] <danny_> im new
[01:03] <lencho> im running kubuntu with vmware im trying it, but when i try to update someting it shows an error message
[01:03] <Tm_T> danny_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[01:03] <lencho> ok thx
[01:05] <tferero> Bonesol: before I forget, thank your for your help - several questions answered, which helped me a lot
[01:06] <BonesolTeraDyne> tferero: Glad I could help
[01:06] <tferero> danny:  have you used adept in any way before?
[01:06] <Tm_T> BonesolTeraDyne: mind to join #kubuntu-offtopic ?
[01:07] <BonesolTeraDyne> Tm_T: I'm in there. why?
[01:07] <Tm_T> oh great
[01:07] <lencho> es
[01:08] <BigPick> juancamilo: okay lets do this the hardcore way
[01:08] <juancamilo> BigPick: ok
[01:09] <dope> can i install gutsy from within fiesty?
[01:09] <BigPick> juancamilo: this is kinda a last-ditch effort here.
[01:09] <juancamilo> dope: yes, use adep
[01:09] <Tm_T> dope: upgrade ofcourse :))
[01:09] <dope> the upgrade completely hosed my system
[01:10] <dope> which is why i wanna do a fresh install
[01:10] <BigPick> juancamilo: run "sudo dd if=/dev/scd0 of=test.iso"
[01:10] <juancamilo> BigPick: no prob,
[01:10] <rdvon> how do i upgrade my kubuntu to gutsy gibbon?
[01:10] <Tm_T> rdvon: see topic
[01:10] <rdvon> thanks!
[01:10] <rdvon> :)
[01:10] <rdvon> can't i upgrade via adept?
[01:10] <Tm_T> yes
[01:10] <dope> i wouldn't
[01:10] <Tm_T> its all in the topic =)
[01:10] <dope> well i tried
[01:11] <juancamilo> BigPick: dd: opening `/dev/scd0': No medium foun
[01:11] <dope> now i have a broken linux install
[01:11] <RabidDog_> Somebody needs to add 'Kubuntu' to the spell checker dictionary for Kontact!  It keeps showing up as misspelled.
[01:11] <BigPick> juancamilo: what the hell.... and the cd is in there?
[01:11] <dope> is there a way i can mount the iso from within fiesty and boot off of that or something?
[01:11] <zeke> lol
[01:12] <rdvon> I don't think so... ;)
[01:12] <jarn> Where is bash history? I forget.
[01:13] <juancamilo> BigPIck: sorry for that. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42413/
[01:13] <hangthedj> ~/.bash_history
[01:14] <BigPick> juancamilo: okay, something way wonky is going on
[01:14] <rdvon> what's so different about kubuntu gutsy gibbon?
[01:14] <juancamilo> BigPick: ??? i have no idea...
[01:15] <rdvon> does it have all the cool foxbuntu features or whatever?
[01:15] <BigPick> juancamilo: run "sudo rmmod cdrom; sudo modprobe -v cdrom" for me please
[01:15] <rdvon> yay!
[01:15] <rdvon> new gimp :)
[01:15] <ardchoille> BigPick: I don't use dd often, but shouldn't if be /mountpoint and not /dev/device ?
[01:16] <rdvon> hmm... for a full system upgrade; this is a pretty sort d/l time
[01:16] <BigPick> ardchoille: The problem is we can't mount the cd.
[01:16] <ardchoille> BigPick: Oh, ok
[01:16] <rdvon> it's already 68% doen.
[01:16] <rdvon> *done.
[01:16] <juancamilo> BigPick: juancamilo@jvasquez:~$ sudo rmmod cdrom; ERROR: Module cdrom is in use by sr_mod
[01:16] <jarn> Is there a way to see what was outputted to a shell when what you want is up high enough that it's past the point you can scroll to it?
[01:17] <BigPick> jauncamilo: Allright dude, I'm totally out of ideas now.
[01:17] <stdin> jarn: unless you put it to some log, no
[01:17] <ardchoille> jarn: pipe the output to "more":  command | more
[01:17] <wilson_> jarn: when you run the command put |more afterwards   or |less
[01:17] <ardchoille> cat really_big_file | more
[01:17] <wilson_> less is better
[01:17] <ardchoille> less is better, yeah
[01:17] <stdin> less is more :p
[01:17] <ardchoille> hehe
[01:17] <jarn> Haha, you beat me to it. :P
[01:18] <jarn> Okay, guys, thanks.
[01:18] <BigPick> juancamilo: I'm sorry dude :(
[01:18] <jarn> Too bad what I was doing took awhile so it will take awhile to do it once more.
[01:18] <danny_> how do you install a program on kubuntu
[01:18] <jarn> The description for more even says that less is more.
[01:19] <rdvon> I don't see the version upgrade button :\
[01:19] <juancamilo> BigPick: thanks for your help tho, nice try...
[01:19] <juancamilo> ardchoille: nay ideas?
[01:19] <ardchoille> juancamilo: no :(
[01:19] <BigPick> juancamilo: if dd can't get anything, then something is really off.
[01:19] <danny_> help
[01:19] <ardchoille> juancamilo: What happens when you try to mount it?
[01:20] <BigPick> danny_: Use adept
[01:20] <rdvon> ok. i got it.
[01:20] <danny_> im updating everything
[01:20] <danny_> but nothing with adobe flash player....
[01:20] <rdvon> I'm having a problem with the version upgrade...
[01:20] <rdvon> it said it couldn't verify the integrity of the upgrade app D:
[01:21] <BigPick> Allright guys, I gotta get some dinner, I'll see you all later.
[01:21] <danny_> ok
[01:21] <juancamilo> ardchoille: im runnig kubuntu 7.1 and some of the cds that i use are not getting detected, they are detected as blank or audio ...but i cant see the contents...
[01:21] <danny_> is there a mac theme for kubuntu?
[01:21] <danny_> im a fan of there close icons
[01:21] <ardchoille> danny_: yes
[01:22] <danny_> where can i find this
[01:22] <juancamilo> BigPick: what is dd?
[01:22] <rdvon> bah. it's taking a long time to get the dist upgrader.
[01:22] <jarn> Why does checkinstall no longer accept underscores in version name?
[01:22] <ardchoille> danny_: Like this? http://ardchoille42.googlepages.com/kde-osx2.jpg
[01:22] <rdvon> :<
[01:22] <danny_> ardchoille_: thx
[01:22] <danny_> yea
[01:22] <ardchoille> danny_: There is a tutorial for that:  http://baghira.sourceforge.net
[01:23] <rdvon> I need help!
[01:23] <ardchoille> danny_: But, don't compile baghira, it's in the repos: sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[01:23] <ardchoille> danny_: Sorry, the tut is:  http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php
[01:24] <Tm_T> !patience | rdvon
[01:24] <ubot3> rdvon: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:25] <rdvon> !stfu
[01:25] <ubot3> Acronyms or statements like  noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[01:25] <rdvon> jfgfi?
[01:26] <Tm_T> rdvon: I ask you to behave
[01:26] <juancamilo> ardchoille: for this: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom/ this is the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42414/
[01:27] <rdvon> should I close all apps before performing the upgrade?
[01:27] <danny_> ardchoille
[01:27] <ardchoille> juancamilo: and did dmesg have any info?
[01:27] <danny_> im new its hard any help
[01:27] <ardchoille> danny_: The tutorial explains it much better than I can.
[01:28] <danny_> well
[01:28] <danny_> im sort of new to linux is there a vid i can watch like a guided tour
[01:28] <rdvon> danny_: what do you need help with?
[01:29] <danny_> installing a mac os x theme for kubuntu
[01:29] <rdvon> Oh, I tried doing that a while back.
[01:29] <rdvon> one sec.
[01:29] <ardchoille> danny_: Be honest, is it that the tutorial is huge and you don't want to read it all?
[01:29] <danny_> no
[01:29] <danny_> im new
[01:29] <danny_> im a windows user
[01:30] <danny_> i dont get this stuff
[01:30] <rdvon> It's much easier than you think ;)
[01:30] <rdvon> just different.
[01:30] <ardchoille> You're new? Ok, first thing you need to know.. you're going to have to learn and read in order toget the most out of Linux.
[01:30] <rdvon> you need baghira, do you have it?
[01:30] <danny_> and i dont use kubuntu much because it doesnt support wifi
[01:30] <juancamilo> ardchoille: man, thats a very long output, what im exactly looking for?
[01:30] <BonesolTeraDyne> rdvon: I usually don't recommend upgrading. It tends to break things too easily. Infact, it broke both my laptop and desktop installs. I suggest just backing up everything in your home directory and reinstalling.
[01:30] <danny_> and i cant connect to my network
[01:30] <ardchoille> juancamilo: No idea, I've never had a device problem.
[01:31] <rdvon> danny_: you need ndiswrapper.
[01:31] <danny_> rdvon: how do i get
[01:31] <rdvon> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[01:31] <rdvon> then,
[01:31] <rdvon> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-gtk
[01:31] <juancamilo> ardchille: this is only dmesg | tail:    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42415/
[01:31] <rdvon> danny_: type that in the konsole
[01:32] <flash_> rdvon: what's the use of ndiswrapper?
[01:32] <rdvon> flash_: to get wireless cards working..
[01:32] <danny_> rdvon: please wait and repeat that when im done updating my system using adept
[01:33] <rdvon> I opend a private message window, do you see it?
[01:33] <ardchoille> juancamilo: That device may be dead or going bad.
[01:34] <flash_> dvon: does ubuntu use it
[01:34] <rdvon> danny_: what type of wireless card do you have?
[01:34] <juancamilo> ardchoille: it works with the kubuntu cd, which is burned as well, and if i log on win xp it works fine too
[01:34] <ardchoille> juancamilo: I don't know what to tell you then :(
[01:35] <juancamilo> BigPick: ardchille: thanks for the time... i could not get it to work, i'll boot to windows to get the info from the cds
[01:35] <danny_> i have a dell mini wireless card
[01:35] <danny_> i have to register my nickname
[01:36] <danny_> can anyone change my nick to danny7210
[01:36] <danny_> so i can register it
[01:36] <danny_> danny is taken
[01:36] <danny_> Admin_
[01:37] <danny_> can u change my nickname to <danny7210_>
[01:37] <flash_> im couldnt see it in the list but danny_
[01:37] <danny_> ill show you the full name
[01:37] <Angelus> danny_: to change you're nick, type "/nick danny7210"
[01:38] <danny_> type "/nick danny7210
[01:38] <danny_>  "/nick danny7210
[01:38] <Angelus> without the " "
[01:38] <Angelus> :)
[01:39] <danny7210> ok
[01:39] <danny7210> there
[01:40] <danny7210> rdvon
[01:41] <danny7210> my wireless card is a broadcom corportation dell wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card
[01:42] <rdvon> yeah... something bad happened.
[01:42] <rdvon> real bad..
[01:42] <rdvon> in the middle of the upgrade kubuntu locked up.
[01:43] <matthias> hi
[01:44] <Angelus> hi, can someone tell me  a data recovery progam to recover deleted data
[01:44] <matthias> i dont know
[01:44] <alex-weej> does kubuntu use konq or firefox as default browser
[01:45] <snes_rocks> konqueror
[01:45] <alex-weej> fuck sake
[01:45] <alex-weej> thanks
[01:45] <snes_rocks> Is there any possibility, besides manually installing eclipse, of getting JUnit4 to work?
[01:45] <j1solutions> hey you guys hello
[01:45] <matthias> hi
[01:46] <JDMT> does the Caps and Scroll lights on your keyboard blink?
[01:46] <j1solutions> what is the best tool for managing wireless connections on grump gibbon?
[01:46] <snes_rocks> i prefer knetworkmanager
[01:47] <j1solutions> snes, you use that for wireless?
[01:47] <snes_rocks> yes
[01:47] <j1solutions> this card is a cisco that acts funny
[01:48] <j1solutions> it has eth1 and wifi1
[01:48] <j1solutions> and eth1 is the one that works
[01:48] <flash_> hi, how can i catch the packages on Lan?
[01:49] <j1solutions> thanks snesrocks
[01:51] <j1solutions> anyone running asterisk on kubu 7.1?
[01:53] <Search4Lancer> eep! when I try to run cpudynd, I get "cpudynd: CPU frequency control disabled"! As such, my CPU is running full speed ahead, and it's only a matter of time before I overheat... why would freq control be disabled, and how can I reenable it?
[01:54] <j1solutions> hey droning
[01:54] <j1solutions> what's new?
[01:55] <j1solutions> whats up with the looping updates
[01:55] <j1solutions> i keep getting messages, which downloads software, which doesn't install
[01:56] <j1solutions> anyone else getting this error?
[01:56] <Search4Lancer> no idea what you're talking about
[01:59] <j1solutions> i get a messge in the system tray saying i have updates, adept appears to dowload serveral
[02:00] <j1solutions> packages, which then aborts, and begins again.
[02:06] <Ahmuck> !dvd
[02:06] <ubot3> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[02:10] <redheat> ok let's head to the people on Kubuntu
[02:10] <redheat> hi everyone
[02:10] <redheat> I want to share files between my laptop which has gutsy gibbon installed on it and my desktop which three OS' installed on it..windows xp, windows vista and ubuntu gutsy
[02:11] <redheat> how can I share media between my laptop and my desktop, especially the on the laptop side
[02:13] <redheat> ok I got it
[02:41] <tekteen> anyone here know if there is a developers chatroom?
[02:44] <Tm_T> tekteen: for developers of what?
[02:45] <tekteen> ubuntu
[02:45] <Tm_T> #ubuntu-devel and #kubuntu-devel
[02:45] <tekteen> thanx
[02:45] <Tm_T> hmm
[02:45] <Tm_T> !irc
[02:45] <userbn> .
[02:46] <userbn> n
[02:46] <Tm_T> ah, ubot3 is other side
[02:46] <userbn> what?
[02:46] <userbn> o
[02:46] <tekteen> Tm_T: do you know how to recreate the pool on the alt. install cd?
[02:46] <Tm_T> nope
[02:46] <tekteen> thanks anyway
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> cptnspoon,  check in /media/
[02:55] <Mr_Sonoma> anyone know anything about kernel module configuration files? i've got what should be a simple question, this is for a class and want to verify my guess is right...
[02:55] <cptnspoon> Dr_Willis: thanks
[02:57] <cptnspoon> Dr_Willis: Yay, found the file. Thank you so much!!!
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> Had to find the Baby pictures right! :)
[02:58] <cptnspoon> Dr_Willis: something like that :P it was my resume actually :D I can put this down in my skills now :P
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> skilled in beeing a leet haxor.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:59] <cptnspoon> Dr_Willis: A leet haxor?? What does that mean??
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> means you are a cool linux chix :)
[03:01] <Black_Chaos> I just got compiz installed and I can't seem to get the "super" key working.
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> Black_Chaos, i had a similer issue - then relized i had the window/game switch on game on my  Keyboard.
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:02] <Black_Chaos> i don't have one of those. This is on a Dell Inspiron 6400 laptop
[03:03] <cptnspoon> Dr_Willis: gee thanks :P my boyfriend will be proud of me even working out how to get on here. I think he's trying to make me a linux geek.
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> You can dress up as Tux for Haloween
[03:05] <danny_> hello
[03:05] <danny_> i need help installing a Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PCI Card on kubuntu
[03:06] <danny_> help please
[03:06] <danny_> would be nice
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> I dont do much with wireless.. sorry.,. perhaps others can help
[03:07] <danny_> kk
[03:07] <Dr_Willis> There is also a lot of info on wireless  and laptops in the forums
[03:07] <Tm_T> Dr_Willis: uhm?
[03:07] <danny_> or can somebody help me install a mac os x theme for kubuntu :)
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> danny_,  ICK.
[03:08] <Tm_T> !fi | hara
[03:08] <ubot3_> hara: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[03:08] <danny_> ?
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> danny_,  thers only proberly 100 of them to choose from
[03:08] <danny_> well were can i find them
[03:08] <danny_> ill google it
[03:08] <danny_> lol
[03:08] <Dr_Willis> i think bagheria in the repos is similer
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> check out the extra kde themes in default
[03:09] <sonoftheclayr> danny_: try kde-look.org
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> there are a lot in the repos.. check there first. :)
[03:09] <sonoftheclayr> baghira is a good osx theme i think
[03:09] <Dr_Willis> I hate the ox-x window decor. But the widgets are ok. :)
[03:09] <cptnspoon> okay i know this isnt a kubuntu question at all but i need help. I am currently a 1st year apprentice beauty therapist and my boss extended my probationary period because "I don't smile enough". Load of bull...
[03:10] <cptnspoon> So I need to write my resume to apply for another... but how do I say why I am looking for another job?
[03:10] <[ifr0g]> danny_, http://www.taimila.com/?q=node/11
[03:10] <cptnspoon> I can't say my boss was mean. any ideas?
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> 'looking for a job with  better  long term ..... somthing..." :)
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> goals..
[03:11] <danny_> thanks
[03:11] <[ifr0g]> cptnspoon, Say, The company removed many due to low profit.
[03:12] <Tm_T> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> danny_,  if you use the compiz stuff and emerald - theres about 20 OX-X wana be themes for that.
[03:12] <Tm_T> !ndiswrapper
[03:12] <ubot3_> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:12] <Tm_T> oh boy...
[03:12] <Tm_T> cptnspoon: #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[03:12] <Tm_T> cptnspoon: wrong channel for that, please #kubuntu-offtopic for OT discussion
[03:13] <Tm_T> heyyy, I said about offtopic
[03:13] <Tm_T> please, OT discussion in #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:15] <HomeRoey> hey all
[03:15] <HomeRoey> er
[03:15] <HomeRoey> how do I install codecs for mp3/ogg/flac again?
[03:15] <Tm_T> !mp3
[03:15] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:15] <HomeRoey> THANK YOU  :)
[03:15] <Tm_T> HomeRoey: ogg is "builtin" :(
[03:15] <HomeRoey> oh, right
[03:16] <Tm_T> aka "good default"
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> i alwasy install that kubuntu-restricted-thang. :)
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> !find kubuntu-restricted
[03:16] <ubot3> Found: kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> !info kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:24] <danny__> hello
[03:24] <danny__> can anyone help me with installing a mac os x theme im having trouble
[03:28] <danny__> i need help
[03:28] <danny__> how do i find out what version of kubuntu i have.....
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> danny_,  lsb_release -a
[03:30] <danny__> thanks
[03:33] <j1solutions> nic dr willis
[03:34] <danny__> i need help finding and installing a mac os x theme for kubuntu
[03:34] <danny__> i can seem to get on im new so
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> !find bagh
[03:34] <ubot3> Found: kwin-baghira
[03:34] <danny__> help would be nice
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> !info kwin-baghira
[03:34] <ubot3> kwin-baghira: KDE theme for Apple junkies :). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-1 (gutsy), package size 773 kB, installed size 2192 kB
[03:34] <t3ch13> Where can I find info on getting Compiz to work in Kubuntu with a Nvidia graphics card?
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> !compiz
[03:35] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> Right there. :) heh..
[03:35] <danny__> dr willis
[03:35] <Stingball> Help please when I try to update i get "Failed to fetch http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356/dists/edgy/Release Unable to find expected entry  maindeb/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)"
[03:35] <danny__>  lsb_release -a
[03:35] <danny__> danny@ubuntu:~$  lsb_release -a
[03:36] <danny__> No LSB modules are available.
[03:36] <danny__> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[03:36] <danny__> Description:    Ubuntu 7.04
[03:36] <danny__> Release:        7.04
[03:36] <danny__> Codename:       feisty
[03:36] <danny__> danny@ubuntu:~$
[03:36] <danny__> danny@ubuntu:~$
[03:36] <stdin> !paste | danny_
[03:36] <ubot3> danny_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:36] <stdin> and danny__ ^
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> pastebining - normal output? :)
[03:36] <danny__> i need a mac os x theme for ubuntu 7.04 feisty
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> danny__,   kwin-baghira  is such a theme
[03:37] <danny__> where can it be located
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> danny__,  its IN THE repositories
[03:37] <Stingball> ok with pastebin when I try version upgrade I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42422/
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> fire up your fave package manager search/install it. :)
[03:38] <Stingball> I have the cd if it helps of 7.10
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> !find kwin
[03:38] <viktor_> hi everytime i try to connect to kopete messenger it says wrong password but its not the wrong password
[03:38] <ubot3> Found: kwin-baghira, kwin-style-alphacube, kwin-style-blended, kwin-style-dekorator, kwin-style-knifty (and 6 others)
[03:38] <stdin> Stingball: try disabling all non *.archive.ubuntu.com repositories
[03:38] <Stingball> ok thanks
[03:38] <danny__> thanks
[03:39] <danny__> !find kwin-baghira
[03:39] <ubot3> Found: kwin-baghira
[03:39] <danny__> lol
[03:39] <danny__> i installed it
[03:39] <danny__> now what
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> use the theme manager tools to enable it?
[03:40] <viktor_> can u donwload msn for kubuntu
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> !msn
[03:40] <ubot3> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[03:40] <danny__> dr willis where is theme manager.........
[03:40] <stdin> danny__: set it in 'system settings > appearance > style' and system 'settings > appearance > window decorator'
[03:40] <viktor_> or some other chat program thats not so stone age for live messenger
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> Right there in with all the other system setting stuff. Not using KDE right now so i cant  tell you exactly
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> start exploring Kde. :)
[03:41] <Stingball> gain rather then pidgin?
[03:41] <danny__> .........
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> a kde 'theme' is composed of different parts.. The window decortation, the widgets, the icons. and the color.
[03:41] <danny__> great
[03:41] <danny__> im new to kde
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> you can mixx and match the parts with the  appearance tools
[03:41] <danny__> so idk
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> system -> settings -> appearance , start twiddling. :) have fun
[03:42] <danny__> thats not for kubuntu
[03:42] <danny__> .......
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> You could have Baghira window decorations with Windows 95 style buttons.
[03:43] <Dr_Willis> danny__,  have you been asking for a  GNOME theme in the Kubuntu channel?
[03:43] <danny__> no i need one for kubuntu
[03:43] <danny__> GNOME IS UBUNTU
[03:43] <stdin> Dr_Willis: s/system -> settings/system settings/
[03:43] <stdin> danny__: NO NEED FOR CAPS
[03:43] <Stingball> stdin: looks like you wuz on the money
[03:44] <danny__> ok
[03:44] <Stingball> Gnome is I am agast
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu 'uses' gnome. :)    or you can make it use other window managers.
[03:44] <danny__> ......
[03:44] <danny__> i just need a theme for kubuntu 7.04 feisty
[03:44] <Stingball> 7.04 remembers that from long ago
[03:45] <stdin> danny__: you installed it, then I told you have to activate it. what more do you want?
[03:45] <danny__> im new i really dont know anything about ubuntu i just got my wireless card working that is my first thing done
[03:45] <Stingball> liek 3 min
[03:45] <danny__> i dont kw to activate itnow ho
[03:45] <stdin> danny__: set it in 'system settings > appearance > style' and system 'settings > appearance > window decorator'
[03:45] <viktor_> hi how do i install peigeion
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> take some time and explore all the kde settings  tools/kcontrol panel things
[03:45] <danny__> im using kubuntu........
[03:45] <danny__> i have 7.04
[03:45] <Tm_T> danny__: yes, we know that
[03:45] <Stingball> peigeion or pidgin?
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> actually you can right click on the title bar and get to the settings also cant ya.
[03:46] <danny__> i dont have appearance thing
[03:47] <danny__> stdin
[03:47] <stdin> danny__: in system settings click on  'appearance' under 'Look & Feel', then in 'style' and 'window decorator' choose baghira
[03:47] <danny__> ..........
[03:48] <viktor_> does anyone know of a package for emerald theme mananger which will giv u a hole selection of themese rather then downloadin 1 at a time
[03:48] <danny__> i dont have appearance
[03:48] <stdin> then you haven't got a default kubuntu install
[03:48] <danny__> i have wubi i installed kubuntu 7.04 feisty
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> viktor_,  i dont think there is one. i use the  emerald theme tools to 'download' them from the emerald repos
[03:48] <Stingball> danny__: why not start with a clean shiney 7.10?
[03:48] <danny__> ahhhhh i just got my wireless card working ..........
[03:48] <Linusx> Dr_Willis: can that Mac theme be installed on dapper?
[03:49] <danny__> and i cant install it using wubi
[03:49] <Stingball> danny__: so now you knwo how it's done
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> Linusx,  thers a lot of mac-LOOKING themes
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> !wubi
[03:49] <ubot3> wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[03:49] <Dr_Willis> Ive never touched wubi so cant vouch for how messed up it may be. :)
[03:49] <danny__> it works great
[03:49] <Stingball> < has great fear of the wubi
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> danny__,  aparently not if  you are having such issues with it...
[03:50] <stdin> danny__: this is what system settings should look like http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1528/systemsettingstw5.png
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> danny__,  and theres a great many # of others with   issues i see
[03:50] <danny__> woah
[03:50] <danny__> this is 7.04
[03:50] <danny__> ?
[03:50] <viktor_> how do change the time
[03:50] <stdin> that's the 7.04 system settings,
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> i would dump 7.04
[03:51] <Stingball> confused wubi is great all haill the wubi or and theres a great many # of others with   issues i see
[03:51] <danny__> ok got it
[03:51] <danny__> lol
[03:51] <stdin> viktor_: right click the clock > Adjust Date & Time
[03:51] <danny__> downloaded patch
[03:51] <danny__> works!
[03:51] <Stingball> right click on the time
[03:52] <sparr> Are there any debian-friendly ways to keep multiple versions of wine installed at the same time?
[03:52] <Linusx> Dr_Willis: Am I understanding you right... that 'kwin-baghira' is / contains more than one theme?
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> its a os-x theme. Theres dozens of OTHER os-x look alike themes out there
[03:52] <danny__> no you got it wrong
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> it looks like os-x
[03:53] <danny__> i was going into all aplications
[03:53] <viktor_> can pigeion connect to msn
[03:53] <Stingball> can you make osx look liek ubuntu?
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> Stingball,  no idea. i dont care about OSX :)
[03:55] <Stingball> nor do I
[03:55] <danny__> how do i change nick
[03:56] <sparr> danny__: /nick whatever
[03:57] <n2kubuntu> there
[03:57] <n2kubuntu> thanks
[03:58] <n2kubuntu> does anyone have a kde theme of mac os x
[03:58]  * Dr_Willis thinks hes seen this go full circle 10 times now.
[03:59] <Stingball> Sorry you want to join #osx on de mac
[03:59] <n2kubuntu> but i need it for kubuntu
[03:59] <n2kubuntu> not mac
[04:00] <Stingball> why not since your using windows do a VMware install of osx
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> If youve installed the kwin-Baghira theme - thenyou have an os-x theme installed for kde.
[04:01] <sanzanric> kubuntu
[04:01] <n2kubuntu> it pops up saying it crashed
[04:01] <n2kubuntu> when i use ark
[04:01] <Stingball> maybe the issue ishe is running a comadore or sinclar?
[04:01] <n2kubuntu> adept i mean
[04:02] <n2kubuntu> ?
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> i dont have a 7.04 system any more.. so cant help ya with trouble shooting that. I much perfer  7.10 gutsy
[04:03] <n2kubuntu> ok
[04:03] <n2kubuntu> i will make a live cd
[04:03] <n2kubuntu> can u make a live cd on kubuntu
[04:03] <n2kubuntu> and burn it
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> You can burn iso images with k3b
[04:04] <n2kubuntu> ok
[04:06] <n2kubuntu> wow i get 200kbs on wifi using kubuntu compared to windows 100kb
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> if you are super addicted to OS-X look check out DreamLinux
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/english/index.html
[04:08] <grul> how do i get the command du to include hidden files?
[04:08] <NDPMacBook> Whats Dreamlinux based on?
[04:08] <NDPMacBook> Ubuntu?
[04:08] <viktor_> how do u get compiz fusion to auto start
[04:09] <KalEl> how can i make ktorrent shutdown when the downlaods complete?
[04:10] <tekstacy> 'lo all
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> NDPMacBook,  no idea.  its not ubuntu however.
[04:10] <tekstacy> What's a simple drawing program? Like the equiv of MS Paint
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> viktor_,  that compiz factid describe setting up the KDE Autostart  to start it
[04:11] <Dr_Willis> !compiz
[04:11] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:13] <manu__> un chat de kubunru en español??
[04:14] <Dr_Willis> !es
[04:14] <ubot3> Si busca ayuda en Español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá mas ayuda.
[04:14] <manu__> thanks
[04:15] <grul> !se
[04:15] <ubot3> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[04:18] <viktor_> how do i check system performance
[04:20] <Crell> Hi folks.  I'm having issues with a Kubuntu Feisty that I've just upgraded to Gutsy.  As far as I can tell everything is working OK except for, of course, the nvidia driver.
[04:21] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  Whenever I try to play a Matroska file with Mplayer, it starts to slow down after a while.  After some messing around with the options I got it to play.  Mplayer says my computer is too slow, but I have a 1.7 Gig CPU.  Plus, I was able to easily play MKV files before.
[04:21] <Crell> Running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg auto-detects the nv driver.  That works, but doesn't go above 1024x768 resolution and is 2D only and so on.  (I have a 20" LCD.)
[04:21] <Crell> If I switch to the nvidia driver via the System Settings control panel, then on restart I get no X output.
[04:21] <Ertain> !compiz
[04:21] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[04:22] <Crell> Any suggestions on how to get it to behave itself?
[04:22] <Crell> Running startx gives me an error failed to load the nvidia kernel module.
[04:25] <Crell> !nvidia
[04:25] <ubot3> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:27] <n2kubuntu> !find byghira
[04:27] <ubot3> Package/file byghira does not exist in gutsy
[04:27] <n2kubuntu> hello
[04:30] <Dr_Willis> !find kwin
[04:30] <ubot3> Found: kwin-baghira, kwin-style-alphacube, kwin-style-blended, kwin-style-dekorator, kwin-style-knifty (and 6 others)
[04:31] <n2kubuntu> does anybody know a good doc for kubuntu
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> The Kubuntu home page has a lot of guides. and wiki links
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> not sure what guides are isntalled by default
[04:32] <danny_> does anybody know a good mac doc for kubuntu
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> 'mac doc' ?
[04:32] <danny_> a doc bar
[04:32] <danny_> ....
[04:32] <Crell> You man a Dock.
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> you mean a 'dock'
[04:32] <danny_> yes
[04:32] <danny_> dock
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:32] <danny_> srry
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> !find dock
[04:32] <ubot3> Found: docker, haddock, kdocker, knetdockapp, kooldock (and 3 others)
[04:32] <danny_> sorry
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> every one ive seen.. rather suck
[04:32] <Crell> That K is important. :-)
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> then again.. the origianl on OS-X sort of sucks
[04:33] <Crell> Yes, well, there is that...
[04:33] <Crell> You can simulate it kinda sorta with just Kicker if you really want to, albeit with less flashy graphics.
[04:35] <Dr_Willis> check out http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=2767   also for a guide on 'advant window manager' tool
[04:38] <Crell> Is there a recommended list of video cards that are good/bad to try using with compiz?
[04:38] <Crell> The wiki does not say.
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> the biggest and fastest nvidia card ya can afford. :)
[04:39] <Crell> Well my desktop has a 6600 GT, which is the biggest and fastest that is available for AGP. :-)
[04:39] <Tm_T> eh
[04:39] <Crell> I also have a laptop with an Intel X3000 (Thinkpad T61).
[04:39] <Tm_T> Crell: should be more than enough
[04:39] <Tm_T> both of them IMO
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. i though there was an 8600 for the agp.
[04:40] <Crell> Dr_Willis: There could be now.  There wasn't when I bought this card.
[04:40] <Crell> Tm_T: Thanks, I'll try them and see how badly they break. :-)
[04:40] <wilson__> mkv is a contain format isn't it ? maybe its the actual video codec
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> mkv is a container yes. I belive so.
[04:42]  * Crell still is undecided about this whole Dolphin thing...
[04:43] <Tm_T> I dont use it
[04:43] <danny_> i have a desktop with an inter core duo extreme =)
[04:43] <Crell> With some configuration it's not bad, I guess...  But I kinda like tabs in my file manager.
[04:44] <Tm_T> Crell: I kinda like all things in Konqueror
[04:44] <Crell> Oh hell... Why did they bring back the borders?
[04:44] <Crell> Tm_T: Except its Javascript support. :-)
[04:45] <Tm_T> Crell: I like that too
[04:45]  * Crell is a web developer, and the KHTML family of engines is more of a PITA than IE is when it comes to JS.
[04:45] <Tm_T> hahaha
[04:45] <Crell> Tm_T: I mean when maximizing something, you still get a border so the close button doesn't touch the top right corner.
[04:45] <Crell> I suppose it could just be my decorations...
[04:45] <Tm_T> I suppose so too
[04:46] <Tm_T> my windows has 2 px wide borders only
[04:46] <Crell> Hm.  No, it's different on my laptop than desktop, but both are gutsy now.
[04:46] <Tm_T> except titlebar
[04:46] <Tm_T> Crell: screenshot?
[04:47] <Crell> Um.  Sec.
[04:47] <Tm_T> thanks
[04:49] <Crell> http://flickr.com/photos/7591336%40N07/1784753714/
[04:49] <Crell> I'll delete it when we're done. :-)
[04:50] <Tm_T> Crell: IIRC thats up to your settings
[04:50] <Crell> Except the settings are the same on my laptop (this computer), where it does touch the corner.
[04:50] <Tm_T> doublecheck
[04:51] <Tm_T> http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[04:52] <Crell> Good heavens what are you running? :-)
[04:52] <Crell> I don't see corners or settings.
[04:53] <Tm_T> Crell: anyway, I do have same windeco as you are
[04:54] <Tm_T> Crell: my point is, it has much to configure =)
[04:54] <Tm_T> so doublecheck
[04:54] <Crell> I am well aware that KDE is ungodly configurable. :-)  It's figuring out what to configure here that I'm not sure about.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> i tend to just keep it simple
[04:56] <Crell> Me too.  I even use the default background. :-)
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> solid dark blue for me. :)
[04:57] <Tm_T> Crell: I dont even know what are the defaults
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> amazing thing about all these themes.. is how many of them are totally Nasty
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:00] <Crell> 90% of everything is crap. :-)
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> and the otehr 10% is pirated.
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:01] <Crell> lol.
[05:01] <Crell> OK, so I have compiz working on the desktop, although it is not 100% stable
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Crell,  is it 90% stable?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:01] <Crell> And it looks like there's many options to configure to keep me busy for a while.  say.
[05:01] <Crell> Something like that. :-)
[05:01] <Crell> s/say/sigh.
[05:03] <MilesG> when is kde4 officially released?
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> when its done. :)
[05:03] <MilesG> i thought it was end of October
[05:03] <toshiro> hello, anyone tried to change kdm theme on 7.10?
[05:03] <MilesG> Dr_Willis: oic
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> MilesG,  ive heard from oct to jan.
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> MilesG,  id rather them wait. then rush it.
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> !find kdm
[05:03] <ubot3> Found: kde-kdm-themes, kdmtheme, kdm
[05:04] <MilesG> Dr_Willis: same, i love kde
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> toshiro,  install those 3 packages. lots of default themes. and the kdm theme tool
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> well kdm is installed by default. :) heh
[05:04] <MilesG> kde4 is gonna kill everyone
[05:04] <toshiro> I mean, it seems that kdm theme is broken
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> Is it? ive used it to change my themes
[05:04] <toshiro> I've changed the themes but nothing happens
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> Restart the X server.
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> alt-ctrl-backspace
[05:05] <toshiro> I already did it
[05:05] <Dr_Willis> You are using kdm and not gdm? :)
[05:05] <toshiro> of course I'm using kdm :)
[05:07] <Tm_T> MilesG: before new year (some year)
[05:07] <toshiro> I also manually edited /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc but it didn't work either
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> toshiro, you did do the 'administrator mode' button  on the kdmtheme tool?
[05:08] <toshiro> yes
[05:08] <MilesG> when you recompile the kernel
[05:09] <MilesG> does -j3 mean use both cores?
[05:09] <MilesG> assuming you have them
[05:10] <Crell> What is this "super" key?
[05:10] <Crell> In the compiz configuration manager.
[05:11] <toshiro> do you know where should I report a kubuntu related bug?
[05:11] <Crell> !bug
[05:11] <ubot3> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[05:12] <toshiro> is there anything like debian bugreport in kubuntu?
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> Crell,  tats the 'windows' key
[05:12] <biovore> toshiro: lunchpad
[05:13] <Crell> Dr_Willis: Ah.  That button has never worked for me for some reason. :-)
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> keyboard settings in xorg.conf i guess. :0
[05:14] <Crell> Most likely, but what?
[05:15] <toshiro> lunchpad? is that the name of the package?
[05:15] <MilesG> i was looking at my xorg.conf file, and i noticed there are some things i can remove, but the question is, should i?
[05:15] <MilesG> is there any benefit to having a nice small xorg.conf file?
[05:15]  * klobster *grumbles* damn broken upgrade...
[05:15] <Crell> I'd expect Xorg in Gutsy to be able to figure out a windows key.  But then, it hasn't reliably figured out the various multimedia buttons, either.
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> ive never had an issue with the windows key
[05:16] <cheebz88> ok guys
[05:16] <cheebz88> i've got some problems with my huge font size on the window title bars
[05:17] <cheebz88> i've changed all the sizes down and it's still not doing a damn thing
[05:17] <cheebz88> help?
[05:17] <n8k99> cheebz88: one sec
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> you using compiz?
[05:17] <cheebz88> n8k99: ok
[05:17] <cheebz88> i do think i downloaded that for something
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> if you are using compiz - you need to use the emerald theme thing to set that i belive
[05:18] <Crell> hm.  OK, let's get adventurous.  Compiz on the laptop. :-)
[05:18] <n8k99> otherwise its a setting in system settings> appearance> Fonts
[05:19] <cheebz88> i am running the fluxbox window manager right now though
[05:20] <HomeRoey> http://www.anytimecostumes.com/ecommerce/control/product/~product_id=008001604
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> jwm - the ultimate window manager. :)
[05:20]  * HomeRoey drops a random url.
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> !info jwm
[05:20] <ubot3> jwm: Very small lightweight pure X11 window manager with tray and menus. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5-1 (gutsy), package size 94 kB, installed size 296 kB
[05:20] <HomeRoey> hey all
[05:20] <HomeRoey> hi Dr_Willis
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> a huge  296K
[05:21] <iecsam> hi -Dr.Willis y is my kopete crashing when i try to connect
[05:21] <cheebz88> exit
[05:21] <Crell> OK... so apparently, I don't know what mouse button it thinks is what. :-)  Is there an easy way to figure that out?  Just see what mouse buttons are which?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> ive heerd that kopete has some 'issues'
[05:22] <MilesG> kopete pwnz me irl
[05:22] <toshiro> to fix the kopete issue upgrade kdelibs
[05:22] <iecsam> in ubuntu its fine
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Crell,  try rinning 'xev'
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> running xev
[05:22] <iecsam> kubuntu is having these issues
[05:22] <toshiro> I had the same kopete problem
[05:23] <Crell> Kopete would be great if it fixed its tab handling, issues it's had for, oh, 3 years. :-)
[05:23] <Tm_T> Crell: you mean the issue I was supposed to fix?
[05:24] <Crell> Tm_T: Um, I don't know, were you?
[05:24] <iecsam> crell: y wont i receive any security updates
[05:24] <Tm_T> Crell: yes :(
[05:24] <Crell> iecsam: Um.  I don't know, why won't you receive any security updates? :-)
[05:24] <iecsam> or any updates for that matter
[05:25] <Crell> Tm_T: The two I'm thinking of are Alt+1, Alt+2, etc. switching between tabs, and separating group and individual chats into 2 separate windows with their own saved geometry a la Pigin.
[05:25] <Tm_T> Crell: have you ever detached tab?
[05:26] <Crell> Feature-wise, that's the only think Pigin still has over Kopete.  I still use Kopete for simplicity, though, but I don't know how well that will fly on my laptop.
[05:26] <Crell> I'm sure I have at one point, but not recently.
[05:26] <Tm_T> try and cry
[05:26] <t3ch13> Is it worth trying to get Compiz working with the ATI Mobile Radeon 200?
[05:26] <Crell> lol
[05:26] <Tm_T> and, sorry
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> t3ch13,  i dont think that even has the power to do it.
[05:27] <Crell> I do understand long-standing issues not being fixed.  I'm an OSS PHP developer, we've got a few of our own. :-)
[05:27] <t3ch13> pslos ran it and Vista Aero works with it
[05:27] <Crell> Still, it's annoying when other KDE apps do have it, but Kopete doesn't.
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> t3ch13,  i got a x200m.
[05:28] <t3ch13> It doesn't really serve a useful purpose other than showing people and saying look what Linux can do
[05:29] <Crell> t3ch13: Sexy interfaces sell Linux to more people, which means a larger market share, which means more hardware support in the future.  I consider that a useful purpose, even if it's just wasted CPU cycles to me most of the time.
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> and means more #$**&@&@ people here.. :) heh heh
[05:30] <Crell> I don't even like OS X, but being able to show off Aqua/Aero-esque effects is good marketing.
[05:30] <kristen> !compiz
[05:30] <Crell> hehe
[05:30] <ubot3> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[05:30] <t3ch13> Crell I guess I kind of see your point that is the main reason I switched to kubuntu so I could use KDE
[05:30] <Dr_Willis> I cant find many Aero like effects. that are wirth showing off.
[05:31] <t3ch13> People love eye candy
[05:31] <Tm_T> t3ch13: so I'm not people then
[05:31] <t3ch13> I never said that TM_T
[05:31] <Dr_Willis> People tend to be idiots. :)
[05:32] <Tm_T> Dr_Willis: remember coc
[05:32] <Crell> Well that's annoying...
[05:32] <Tm_T> t3ch13: you just did
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Heh.. :)
[05:32] <Crell> Moving a window to another desktop makes it vanish. :)
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Heck. Just having 2 monitors impressed the window users i know.
[05:32] <t3ch13> I had to learn linux from a command line basis then I could appreciate the gui
[05:33] <Crell> I haven't gotten dual monitor working on Linux. :-(  I love it at work, though.
[05:33] <iecsam> finally figured how to get the updates
[05:33] <NickPresta> Compiz-Fusion is neat to show us and it increases accessibility with some plugins (and some plugins are totally "useless" too). At any rate, "eye-candy" is awesome :)
[05:33] <Crell> Every time I try, my old 15" analog monitor ends up as the primary instead of the 20" digital LCD. :-)
[05:33] <t3ch13> cool iecsam
[05:34] <Crell> brb, need to restart X on the laptop for compiz, it looks like.
[05:34] <Tm_T> NickPresta: ...I disagree but that's the love of Linux, take what you like :)
[05:34] <NickPresta> Tm_T, indeed =D
[05:35] <t3ch13> I just usually show them that I can do wireless and the cool programs availble and that works
[05:35] <Tm_T> I played 2 mins with Beryl back then, got bored, ditched
[05:35] <Tm_T> t3ch13: I dont show, I just do what I usually do and that's enough for them :(
[05:36] <t3ch13> I'm working on a Bachelors in Information Systems Security and my big + is always the cool security tools
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> imagine how many useless plugins will exist in a year..
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:36] <NickPresta> well, I've "converted" a couple of my friends and it was Beryl and package management that sold Kubuntu. They also liked how KDE was infinitely more configurable than Windows...
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> 1000 different ways for a window to vanish when you minimize it!
[05:37] <iobelisk> what command to i have to execute in order to run kde4 once i've installed it?
[05:37] <Crell> hm.  Does compiz not work with a Intel X3000 video chip?
[05:37] <t3ch13> We did a lab with snort and I let them all do the windows way and then I said now watch how easy it is in LInux lol
[05:37] <Tm_T> !kde4 | iobelisk
[05:37] <ubot3> iobelisk: KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> NickPresta,  i find too many people spend all day twiddling with the wallpaper and stuff.. and dont want to learn the fundamentals. :)
[05:37] <Tm_T> Dr_Willis: I can spend all day to create new wallpapers =)
[05:38] <NickPresta> Dr_Willis, well, it depends. Most people who use computers don't have the patience or knowledge to learn the fundamentals. Of course, that isn't to say there aren't plenty of users who should and do learn the basics and move up and onwards.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> they have the patience to spend all day getting their icons lined up just right.. and the wallpaper set just so... :)
[05:39] <Crell> OK, this is strange.
[05:39] <Nyle> I have kubuntu feisty and when I try to go to kcontrol there are no config options in there
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> but cant be bothered to .... well.. i wont go on. heh
[05:39] <iobelisk> tm_t, thanks but those links really don't tell me how to run the kde4 desktop
[05:39] <Nyle> when I go to the regular system settings application it crashes
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> its amazing the bad habbits people get into when using pc's
[05:39] <Crell> I have 8 desktops, but only 2 show up for compiz desktop switching.  And the second, if I put anything on it, the window vanishes.
[05:39] <Crell> It's also showing apps from desktop 1, when it shouldn't be.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> iobelisk,  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php  tells EXACTLY how to run the kde4 desktop
[05:39] <Tm_T> iobelisk: also, its beta
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> iobelisk,  you make a new kde4.desktop   entry for it. with some commands  it runs. :)
[05:40] <t3ch13> Crell you have to let compiz handle the desktops
[05:40] <Crell> hm.
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> i second whatg t3ch13  is saying.
[05:40] <iobelisk> Dr._Willis, when i create a new session, i am not sure what command to put under "exec"?
[05:40] <Crell> So the various move to desktop commands will all fail, except for compiz's fancy schmancy ones?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> reread that site again. iobelisk  the part where it says
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> To run it as a full session copy /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions/kde.desktop to /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop,
[05:41] <t3ch13> In CompizConfig Settings Manager in general options is the settings you need
[05:41] <iobelisk> Dr_Willis, there is no kde.desktop under /usr/lib/kde4/share/apps/kdm/sessions for me so it gives me a file not found
[05:41] <Nyle> I have kubuntu feisty and when I try to go to kcontrol there are no config options in there.  Systems Settings (the new controls) crashes
[05:41] <Nyle> I have kde 3.5.6
[05:41] <Dr_Willis>  try updateing the locate database and use 'locate kde4.desktop' i guess
[05:41] <Nyle> I have kde 3.5.8
[05:42] <t3ch13> I have KDE 3.5.8
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> it sould run /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde  is my guess. if that path is right. :)
[05:42] <Nyle> help
[05:43] <t3ch13> Well I'm tired and it's late later all
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> im using jwm :)
[05:43] <Crell> Oh, I think I get it.
[05:44] <Crell> compiz's fancy "desktop" switching is only WITHIN a given X desktop, but compiz can have multiple of its OWN compiz "desktops" within one X desktop.
[05:44] <Crell> That's AFU. :-)
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> huh?
[05:44] <kyuubi> a
[05:45] <Dr_Willis>  compwiz's desktop switching is instead of kde's virtual desktops.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> Then again - i jsut set up 2 desktops and leave it at that. :)
[05:45] <Crell> Dr_Willis: Right, that's what I'm saying/seeing.
[05:45] <Crell> I'm used to having 4 in KDE.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> gotta love 2 widescreen monitors.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis>  i dont need 4 any more
[05:45] <Crell> But 4 in KDE + compiz == weird.
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> If you want 4 with compiz - you set them up in the genral tab of the ccsm tool
[05:46] <Crell> Right, that's where I am now.
[05:46] <Crell> I'm toying with settings. :-)
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> some of the compiz settings look ugly with twinview/dual moniotrs
[05:46] <Crell> I think I need to disable the KDE pager, though, as it's based on the KDE desktops, not compiz desktops.
[05:47] <iobelisk> Dr_Willis, I am actually running gnome, so do you think i need to also install the kdebase package for kde4base to work?
[05:47]  * Crell hopes they integrate this stuff into KDE directly soon.  KDE 4.0 has its own thing I understand, though...
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> Crell,  yep - the compiz+kde intefration is a bit rough
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> iobelisk,  no idea there.. I would  think it may be a good idea. you can run kde and test out specific kde4 apps. Or try the whole kde4 desktop
[05:48] <Crell> All the indy fun stuff targets Gnome only, and then KDE does their own thing.  Quite annoying. :-(
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> Go play with Enlightment then. :)
[05:48] <iobelisk> dr_willis, i have installed only kde4base-dev at the moment, is there anything else i need to get in order to get kde4 running? i'd like to create a whole diff session for kde4 and check it out from there
[05:48] <Tm_T> Dr_Willis: nooo, WindowMaker!
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> iobelisk,  from what i read of that guide thats how its doable
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> iobelisk,  but ive not messed with kde4 other then on live cd's to test it
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> much safer that way. :)
[05:50] <iobelisk> dr_willis, yes, but that guide is for kubuntu, so i assume that some other kde base packages are probably needed to run kde4? the live cd idea is good though, all i want to do is check kde4 out, i'm getting a little impatient waiting for december ;)
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> i hear a lotof the kde4 apps work nicely under kde3. but the whole'desktop' is still a bit rough.
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> but I have plenty of patience
[05:51] <Crell> OK, the paint fire on screen plugin is way cool, and way useless. :-)
[05:51] <Dr_Willis> Crell,  you draw on the screen 'Dont Touch me' To scare the kids
[05:51] <Crell> lol
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> Use the tidal wave thing!
[05:52] <Crell> I can see it as useful for Halloween.
[05:52] <Dr_Willis> wiggly windows makes my wife sick to her stomach.
[05:52] <Crell> hehe
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> if i miniumize a window.. do i 'really' need a fancy animation to show that it did what i told it to do? :)
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> Now the ADHD setting is a bit more usefull. Dim out the distracting Non-activated windows
[05:53] <Crell> Yeah, wobblywindows is one of those things that I'd enable when showing off Linux at an install fest, and otherwise never use.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> not sure if that show miniwindows on the panel - works with kde or not. I use it under gnome - thats handy
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> The Invert feature is nice some times also.
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> and the zoom :)
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> well its late here.. and time for bed. Night all.
[05:55]  * Crell may just wait until KDE 4, and let the KDE team do the integration.
[05:57] <Crell> Hm.  OK, that's the issue.
[05:57] <Crell> The cube effects are all based on a WIDE desktop, not MULTIPLE desktops.
[06:01] <eljefe> has anyones system been acting slow 24h+ after turning on Strigi search daemon?
[06:01] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> i can never get Compiz to work it makes me wanna cry
[06:01] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> cause compiz would make my computer look so much better
[06:02] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eljefe: i think you should uninstall strigi
[06:03] <eljefe> just tonight it took my (decently fast) machine almost 2 min to recognize a cd-r
[06:03] <eljefe> not sure if its related or not
[06:03] <eljefe> uninstall it why? is it really that bad?
[06:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eljefe: i uninstalled it to make my computer go faster
[06:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> eljefe: do you have and widgets running from super karamba
[06:04] <eljefe> aiight, done
[06:04] <eljefe> no, i used to but it gets to be too much
[06:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ok
[06:04] <eljefe> although, its probably better these days
[06:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> not really
[06:04] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> its still buggy
[06:05] <eljefe> heh
[06:06] <MilesG> hey man, conky is all you need
[06:07] <MilesG> in life
[06:07] <MilesG> as long as i know my cpu% is only 2%, im alright
[06:07] <Tm_T> MilesG: plus bunch of scripts
[06:07] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> does anybody know why i have to keep putting in my DNS servers for my ethernet adaptor it always reverts back to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:08] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> how do i saqve it for good
[06:08] <Tm_T> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StaticDnsWithDhcp
[06:09] <Crell> I need to sleep.  Thanks folks.
[06:10] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Tm_T: thats really complicated
[06:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hello?
[06:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Tm_T: i just made my internet static
[06:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> hello?
[06:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> Tm_T: i just made my internet static
[06:14] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> so do i need to do that anymore
[06:14] <Tm_T> no?
[06:19] <Insanity^> nerds in the house.
[06:23] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> lol
[06:27] <kalifornia909> can anyone help me. my dvd decrypter wont recognize my dvd rom
[06:38] <Jess``> Hi all, i have a really simple question... I have 7.10 now, started with regular ubuntu then installed kubuntu-desktop.  When in a kde session, where do I find the "enable 3d effects" (similar to Gnome's System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> /Effects tab/)?  Thanks
[06:39] <Tm_T> !compiz | Jess``
[06:39] <ubot3> Jess``: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[06:39] <Jess``> Tm_T: so even if I have compiz installed while under gnome, i still need extra stuff for kde?
[06:39] <Tm_T> no idea
[06:39] <Tm_T> I dont use it myself
[06:40] <bazhang> Jess``: I believe you do.
[06:40] <Jess``> alrighty, thanks :)
[06:41] <bazhang> Jess``: compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-main compiz-fusion-plugins-extra compiz-kde emerald
[06:44] <Jess``> turns out i was missing libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig and compiz-kde (the rest were installed from gnome/ubuntu).  Thanks for the help :)
[06:44] <bazhang> Jess``: once you have those installed (sudo apt-get install), then hit the alt +F2 keys and then type in the box compiz --replace, then once agaIn with alt +F2 and emerald --replace
[06:46] <bazhang> Jess``: be sure to then go to the settings <advanced desktop effects settings (in Kmenu) and choose window decorations (located near the bottom of the choices).
[06:46] <bazhang> err check windows decorations, not choose...oops.
[06:51] <Jess``> mm looks neat, thanks bazhang :)
[06:52] <bazhang> Jess``: my pleasure! Hope you have fun with it--scale is especially nice. Similar to the expose effect in Mac.
[06:57] <peter_> hej
[06:58] <clor0x> jeh
[06:59] <PolitikerNEU> Does anyone know how to lower the speed of Graphic chips under kubuntu (nvidia)?
[06:59] <vzduch> why, do you have insufficient cooling? =D
[07:00] <PolitikerNEU> no, but I want to save energy ... my notebook only lasts 1:30 hours at the moment
[07:01] <kalifornia909> i wonder why compiz does not detect my xgl
[07:04] <PolitikerNEU> I've found a tool to overclock my chip ... I'll try to find out if it allows me to step it down too
[07:15] <MilesG> !hi | Daisuke-Ido
[07:15] <ubot3> Daisuke-Ido: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[07:17] <booom> hi all
[07:17] <booom> who speak russia? )
[07:18] <pag> !ru | booom
[07:18] <ubot3> booom: Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:20] <barbaros> !tr|boom
[07:20] <ubot3> boom: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[07:20] <Tm_T> booom: please change your username and realname
[07:23] <Tm_T> booom: please?
[07:24] <booom> what?
[07:24] <Tm_T> 0920 < Tm_T> booom: please change your username and realname
[07:24] <booom> i'm don't speak english
[07:24] <Tm_T> booom: you still know what I'm asking
[07:25] <Tm_T> booom: if not, then I'm asking you to leave
[07:25] <booom> ????
[07:25] <booom> I'm from Russia
[07:25] <Tm_T> yes
[07:25] <newsense07> !ru
[07:25] <ubot3> Пожалуйста войдите в #ubuntu-ru для помощи на русском языке  /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[07:26] <booom> !ru
[07:30] <vzduch> I guess he was either on Windoze or on drugs..
[07:30] <vzduch> or both :D
[07:31] <Tm_T> vzduch: not funny
[07:32] <jay> Does anyone know if gDesklet will work with a 64-bit kubuntu?
[07:41] <jbrouhard> Anyone know of a application that monitors CPU temp ?
[07:42] <vzduch> lmsensors
[07:42] <vzduch> won't alarm you on its own though
[07:42] <vzduch> but you could run it as a cronjob that alarms you if some values are off the scale too much for your taste
[07:42] <eagles0513875> what can i run to scan an ntfs partition
[07:43] <vzduch> eagles0513875: define 'scan'
[07:43] <eagles0513875> the chkdsk equivalent
[07:43] <eagles0513875> i cant scan it in windows cuz i only have linux on here
[07:43] <vzduch> why on earth do you have a NTFS partition then?
[07:44] <eagles0513875> i had windows on here but it finally pissed me off to the point where iwoudl rather use linux for good now
[07:44] <eagles0513875> lol
[07:44] <hellhound> is there a way to keep mplayer from opening a new instance each time I launch a video?  I would like for it to stop the current video and run the selected one
[07:45] <jbrouhard> hey wati a min.. why is my adept updater saying us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-updates ?
[07:45] <muchanic> hellhound: directly, I doubt it, but you could write a shell script to use as a launcher that kills any existing process before launching mplayer
[07:46] <eagles0513875> vzduch: isnt there something i can run to scan it
[07:47] <vzduch> if you find something tell me :D
[07:47] <helloyo> would it be hard to setup ssh so i could access my girlfriends computer (shorter commands needed). she is behind a router
[07:48] <vzduch> problem #1: the router.. you'd have to open a port for that
[07:48] <vzduch> s/open/forward/
[07:48] <GS3User007_> you're probably want to set her up on a static ip if she isn't already
[07:48] <DeadJones> anyone know how to customize (add stuff to) the 'system menu' on kicker?
[07:49] <eagles0513875> vzduch: there is somethign im trying to remember the name im searching through adept atm
[07:50] <vzduch> no idea if ntfsprogs contains something useful here
[07:50] <jbrouhard> Okay someone explain to me why, after a clean install of Gutsy Gibbon DVD, i have sources.list that show dapper for the main repos ?
[07:51] <helloyo> GS3User007_, vzduch: so just fiddle with the router settings?
[07:52] <GS3User007_> helloyo: have you ever set up port forwarding on a router?
[07:53] <helloyo> GS3User007_: no i haven't, i don't have access to my router, i do with hers though
[07:54] <GS3User007_> helloyo: having never set up ssh, i can't say for certain if that'll be an issue or not. what sort of router is it? linksys, dlink, or something else?
[07:54] <Linusx> Earlier there was discussion of kwin-baghira.  Is that useful on older iMacs? (g3 AIO 333 mhz) with dapper?
[07:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[07:54] <GS3User007_> hello
[07:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Is the BadRAM patch included in Gutsy's kernel?
[07:56] <helloyo> GS3User007: i think its a netgear
[07:56] <GS3User007> helloyo: well figure out which ports need to be opened, google around and figure out how to forward any necessary ports on her router
[07:56] <helloyo> GS3User007: will do, thanks
[07:57] <GS3User007> helloyo: np]
[07:57] <vzduch> GS3User007: as for the 'how to' part there's always the router's user manual ;)
[07:58] <GS3User007> vzduch: true, but how many folks keep that sort of thing around?
[07:58] <ubuntu> yes i need help
[07:58] <ubuntu> does anyone know how to get cool desktop effects
[07:58] <ubuntu> which is the best effects
[07:58] <AT0M1CB0MB3R> ubuntu: oh my god
[07:58] <vzduch> define 'cool desktop effects'
[07:58] <vzduch> these meta-questions..
[07:58] <ubuntu> which is better compiz
[07:59] <ubuntu> or?
[07:59] <ubuntu> sorry im new
[07:59] <vzduch> I'm tempted to say: try 'em all & decide for yourself
[07:59] <vzduch> that's what live CDs are for :)
[08:00] <ubuntu> im tempted to say thanks alot lol
[08:00] <ubuntu> ive got 7.04 on my hdd drive
[08:00] <ubuntu> im testing 7.10
[08:00] <ubuntu> lol
[08:00] <ubuntu> thanks
[08:00] <eagles0513875> vzduch: found a program that works to scan ntfs partitions
[08:00] <eagles0513875> vzduch: readup on ntfsprogs
[08:01] <eagles0513875> vzduch: i also seem to haave rw access
[08:02] <vzduch> if you have ntfs-3g you should :)
[08:02] <vzduch> moin blizzzek
[08:02] <eagles0513875> thing is
[08:02] <eagles0513875> this is an external drive
[08:03] <eagles0513875> i had to disable mount as a user on the drive for it to work right other wise i get an error
[08:03] <vzduch> external or not is the same as long as you're not talking to it via a network protocol
[08:03] <eagles0513875> only via usb lol
[08:03] <blizzzek> hi vzduch
[08:05] <eagles0513875> thats weird restarting my laptop seemed to have fixed the issue of me trying to stream audio in amarok saying cant find demux
[08:07] <scott_> wow, this is a busy channel
[08:07] <GS3User007> scott_: i'd say crowded, but not terribly busy
[08:08] <scott_> fair enough
[08:08] <scott_> I've only ever been to the Ubuntu channels on Freenode
[08:08] <scott_> this runs fairly smooth on a VM with 128MB of RAM
[08:09] <GS3User007> scott_: yeah, i'm VMing kubuntu too... gave it 512 though
[08:09] <MilhousePunkRock> eagles0513875: Maybe it's an AAC stream and you have to start it at the right time, when it's sending header data. Happens to me on idobi radio sometimes, if you just retry it will finally work
[08:10]  * vzduch is VM'ing Windoze
[08:10] <vzduch> probably not too useful for the purpose I had in mind on my machine, but fair enough for some other things
[08:11] <GS3User007> what purpose did you have in mind?
[08:11] <eagles0513875> vzduch: if i had a desktop i woudl probably be vming windows or duel booting
[08:11] <vzduch> GS3User007: streaming audio w/ SAM Broadcaster
[08:12] <GS3User007> ah
[08:12] <vzduch> but playing alone produces 70% CPU usage on the host
[08:12] <tester201>  I"m having problems with my Nvidia card on gusty. I've enabled the restricted drivers and rebooted, but I still can't run GL screensavers
[08:12] <vzduch> so there's no room for streaming any more, I guess
[08:13] <GS3User007> time for a faster cpu i suppose... i'm overdue for an upgrade myself actually
[08:13] <scott_> Can I run KDE4 on this thing?
[08:13] <eagles0513875> i love the 4 desktops i have
[08:13] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:13] <eagles0513875> only problem is im in europe and they r back in us
[08:13]  * vzduch just upgraded a couple weeks ago.. running an Athlon XP 2400+ on an Abit KT7-RAID
[08:14] <eagles0513875> nice
[08:14] <eagles0513875> i wish i had my machiens here i really wanna setup a cluster
[08:14] <eagles0513875> and maybe develop some cluster pkgs
[08:14] <vzduch> eagles0513875: better get a power supply that enables you to switch mains power between 110 V and 230 V
[08:15] <tester201> !nvidia
[08:15] <ubot3> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:15] <eagles0513875> vzduch: all desktop power supplies allow u to do that lol
[08:15] <scott_> !kde4
[08:15] <ubot3> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule. Beta 3 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta3.php
[08:15] <eagles0513875> take a look at the back of ur desktop machine i bet u there is a lil red button that allows u to switch the voltage lol
[08:16] <vzduch> eagles0513875: then pack any or all in the mail and have it sent over ;)
[08:16] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:17] <eagles0513875> ur right i should but the shipping is goign to eb a pain
[08:17] <vzduch> you mean the shipping fees..
[08:17] <eagles0513875> ya
[08:22] <eagles0513875> anyway
[08:22] <eagles0513875> this is goignt o be fun re encoding 12gb of music lol
[08:23] <vzduch> if the source material is already in a lossy format you should scrap that..
[08:23] <vzduch> can only result in poorer quality
[08:24] <eagles0513875> it wasnt in a lossy format
[08:24] <posingaspopular> eagles0513875: FLAC?
[08:24] <posingaspopular> in soundkonvertor, yo can drag/drop the giles you want to do
[08:25] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: they were in wave
[08:25] <posingaspopular> but you might be better off writing a shell script to do it for you
[08:25] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: i know but its goign to be a pain to do 12gb of it
[08:25] <posingaspopular> shell script
[08:25] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: now they r in wma cuz i had winblows
[08:25] <vzduch> posingaspopular: shell script?
[08:25] <eagles0513875> now no more winblows
[08:25] <vzduch> posingaspopular: all encoders have batch mode
[08:25] <posingaspopular> true
[08:25] <vzduch> e.g. 'oggenc -q 6 *.wav'
[08:26] <posingaspopular> but you would it be slower to do it in an encoder?
[08:26] <vzduch> why?
[08:26] <posingaspopular> eagles0513875: yea all my files had to be converted.... 30 gigs
[08:26] <posingaspopular> i think it took me like a week
[08:26] <eagles0513875> ouch
[08:26] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:27] <eagles0513875> i do it as i am workign a few at a time lol
[08:27] <eagles0513875> right now i have my poor comp working ovr time to get everythign off my external drive
[08:27] <vzduch> eagles0513875: wma is craptastic in itself.. and still it's better to leave them as-is than to re-convert them into something else (if not WAV or FLAC)
[08:28] <eagles0513875> vzduch: im goign to be converting them into flac
[08:28] <eagles0513875> with wave do u get the same bitrates as in flac
[08:29] <vzduch> WAV == 1,411 kbps, FLAC == variable, ranging from <200 to >1,100 depending on the music.. average tends to be just under 1,000
[08:29] <eagles0513875> which do u prefer
[08:30] <vzduch> for interoperability WAV is best, for storage I'd prefer a lossy codec as it results in smaller files
[08:30] <vzduch> thus I'd suggest leaving the WMAs as they are
[08:31] <blizzzek> nixternal: i saw you blog entry about the request on kubuntu users und opened the wiki site right now. what i am wondering is, that katapult is in the list... erm, it is installed and launched by default
[08:31] <eagles0513875> im goign to go ahead and convert them to wav as i listen to the music quite often
[08:31] <vzduch> using w32codecs or the like it's no problem playing them in Linux
[08:31] <eagles0513875> i know
[08:31] <eagles0513875> but i would prefer to use open source stuff lol
[08:32] <Jucato> blizzzek: he's asleep right now. but probably the answer to that would be: not everyone knows about katapult, that it's installed and enabled by default, or how to use it
[08:32] <vzduch> WAV in itself is not particularly open-source
[08:32] <posingaspopular> blizzzek: it is in kubuntu, but there were talks about removing it before gutsy, or at least thats what nixternal told me. i sent him a msg about that tonigh too, just to make sure that katapult is still included in the next releases
[08:32] <eagles0513875> i have no idea how to use it
[08:32] <eagles0513875> vzduch: is flac
[08:32] <vzduch> the specs are known, but I wouldn't go as far as saying it's open source
[08:32] <vzduch> FLAC is
[08:32] <Jucato> hi posingaspopular
[08:32] <posingaspopular> eagles0513875: alt+spacebar+program/file name
[08:32] <posingaspopular> Jucato! hugs!
[08:32] <Jucato> :)
[08:32] <posingaspopular> it's 3 30 am
[08:33] <eagles0513875> ty posingaspopulari just learned somethign new
[08:33] <Jucato> posingaspopular: yeah I was wondering what you're doing up so late
[08:33] <eagles0513875> :)
[08:33]  * posingaspopular has been reading ubuntu logs and ML's and setting up the agenda for the next meeting
[08:33] <eagles0513875> what is the au format
[08:33] <vzduch> perhaps WAV is something like public domain, I don't know
[08:33] <blizzzek> well, it took me a long time to find out about katapult.. and other people i talked to about it as well. but they are all enthusiastic about it ;)
[08:33] <vzduch> AU is Sun's lossless audio format
[08:33] <vzduch> uncompressed
[08:33] <eagles0513875> i just tried it its quite kool
[08:33] <posingaspopular> Jucato: i sent a few memberd pings about questions/stuff i wanted answered... still waiting back
[08:33] <posingaspopular> katapult rules
[08:33] <eagles0513875> vzduch: so the file sizes goign ot be bigger than flac or wav
[08:34] <Jucato> eagles0513875: Katapult is a launcher, it can launch programs (that are in the K Menu), documents (you have to specify the path starting from ~ though), items from your amarok collections, bookmarks (konqueror and firefox), calculator, execute commands, browse google
[08:34] <Jucato> er.. search google I mean
[08:34] <vzduch> WAV is uncompressed as well.. I guess WAV and AU would be about the same size
[08:34] <eagles0513875> kool i just tried it to open sound konverter and it worked thats bitter sweet
[08:34] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:34] <Jucato> posingaspopular: in a few hours probably. he just went to bed 2 hours ago I think
[08:35] <posingaspopular> yea I have a skateboarding jam in 8 hours... friends to meet, sponsors to talk to etc.
[08:35] <eagles0513875> im goign to have a real headache getting mylaptop on the wireless at school
[08:35] <danny_> i need help my kubuntu 7.04 when i go into adept and try to upgrade to 7.10 it wont let me hit full upgrade....
[08:35] <Jucato> posingaspopular: heheh go to bed!!
[08:35]  * Jucato is going to take a nap too....
[08:35] <posingaspopular> Jucato: i got home at 1:30, so he must have knocked out right before i got there
[08:35] <posingaspopular> danny_: whats the error?
[08:36] <danny_> im trying to upgrade to 7.10
[08:36] <danny_> kubuntu 7.10 and it wont let me hit full upgrade
[08:36] <vzduch> danny_: that's not the correct answer
[08:36] <vzduch> 'cause you already said that
[08:36] <Kred> Hi
[08:36] <eagles0513875> hey Kred
[08:36] <posingaspopular> danny_: it's easier to upgrade via command line
[08:36] <danny_> hang on
[08:37] <danny_> ok
[08:37] <posingaspopular> !hi | vzduch
[08:37] <ubot3> vzduch: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[08:37] <Kred> I just installed Adobe Flash player and video works but I get no sound. I've been trying to search forums for this but..
[08:37] <danny_> whats the code?
[08:37] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: doesnt he need to update his source list
[08:37] <posingaspopular> danny_: sudo apt-get updates && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:37] <posingaspopular> is what i usually do
[08:37] <Kred> I do have sound working for Amarok for example
[08:38] <posingaspopular> eagles0513875: he could edit his sources.list but ive never had any problem doing it via CL with those two commands
[08:38] <posingaspopular> Kred: how did you install flash
[08:38] <danny_> E: Invalid operation updates
[08:38] <posingaspopular> update*
[08:38] <posingaspopular> sorry, that was my error
[08:38] <posingaspopular> no *, just correcting my typo
[08:39] <Kred> posingaspopular: opened up Firefox and clicked "missing plugin". Tried there first to get sound there, then went to Konqueror and searched for plugins..
[08:39] <Kred> posingaspopular: the problem was that I had no Flash player at all.
[08:39] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: if u dont have the right repos in the source list wont it just find no pkgs to upgrade
[08:39] <eagles0513875> cuz thats what it did for me
[08:40] <vzduch> Kred: wrong method.. --> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:40] <eagles0513875> speaking of source list lol i found an error with source omatic
[08:40] <Tm_T> !fi Kred
[08:40] <ubot3> Factoid fi kred not found
[08:40] <Tm_T> aaagh
[08:40] <Tm_T> !fi | Kred
[08:40] <ubot3> Kred: Suomenkielinen keskustelu (K)Ubuntusta kanavilla #ubuntu-fi ja #kubuntu-fi
[08:40] <eagles0513875> if i found an error with the generated source list do i just email the guy in charge
[08:41] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[08:41] <ubot3> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:41] <posingaspopular> eagles0513875: hmmm i duno, because ive never edited no source list and never had any problems upgrading or updating
[08:41] <posingaspopular> danny_: did that work?
[08:41] <danny_> its working
[08:41] <Kred> vzduch: ok, trying that :)
[08:42] <Tm_T> Kred: you perhaps like to install kubuntu-restricted-extras too
[08:42] <posingaspopular> good. if you have any troubles, msg Jucato, he's very good at kubuntu.im going to bed soon
[08:43] <viktor_> is there limewire
[08:43] <vzduch> viktor_: try gtk-gnutella
[08:44] <n3kubuntu> great
[08:44] <n3kubuntu> therer we go
[08:44] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:44] <posingaspopular> viktor_: limewire? for ubuntu?
[08:44] <posingaspopular> there is frostwire
[08:45] <eagles0513875> yesterday was my first successful distupgrade from a previous version without having to download the iso lol
[08:45] <eagles0513875> and do a fresh install
[08:45] <Kred> Ok I installed flashplugin-nonfree but it still doesn't work, the sound I mean. Hmm.. could the wrong install method have confused the system somehow?
[08:45] <Tm_T> Kred: nope
[08:45] <Tm_T> Kred: mind to join #ubuntu-fi ?
[08:46] <Kred> Not at all if that gets me the solution :)
[08:46] <Tm_T> heh, hope so
[08:46] <viktor_> what effect is it if i put my mouse pointer on a window behind the one in use the window goes trasnperent where can i find this option in compiz
[08:47] <vzduch> going to speak a language no one understands ;)
[08:47] <eagles0513875> lol
[08:48] <eagles0513875> try speaking and hearing maltese lol
[08:48] <eagles0513875> i can understand it but cant speak it lol
[08:48] <vzduch> I've once read Maltese.. it's woven through w/ words of Italian origin
[08:48] <eagles0513875> vzduch: lol maltese has alot of arabic words lol
[08:48] <Tm_T> !offtopic
[08:48] <ubot3> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:48] <eagles0513875> llol
[08:48] <vzduch> well, it's a Semitic language
[08:48] <eagles0513875> sry Tm_T
[08:49] <Tm_T> !lol
[08:49] <ubot3> Please don't use "LOL" and "OMG" and so forth on a regular basis. This is IRC, not IM, and using those lines on their own is not required, and it is rather annoying to the rest of the people in the channel; thanks.
[08:49] <Tm_T> eagles0513875: np
[08:49] <eagles0513875> sry again Tm_T
[08:50] <vzduch> hoi Kite_DH + llutz
[08:50] <gdkarout_> hi
[08:50] <emonkey> vzduch, wrong channel ? ツ
[08:50] <vzduch> emonkey: no :)
[08:51] <emonkey> hmk
[08:52] <eagles0513875> this is just a random question what would someone do if they wanted to downgrade
[08:53] <eagles0513875> is taht quite easy to do or would require a clean install
[08:53] <vzduch> reinstall, I suppose
[08:53] <Tm_T> yes
[08:53] <vzduch> of course you can try to change the sources.list and perform a dist-upgrade.. but I doubt that the result would be desireable
[08:55] <vzduch> gotta go for some smokes, brb
[08:55] <eagles0513875> what do i need to download to make amarok play flac files
[08:55] <viktor_> is there i site to go to get a list of apps u can isntall with the sudu apt-get etc
[08:55] <gdkarout_> hi, I have partitioned my disk in 4 primary partitions and I want to make more partitions through linux so I could mount there the /usr /tmp. Is that possible? and how?
[08:56] <eagles0513875> viktor_: u can install any app as long as its in the repos
[08:56] <posingaspopular> the command is 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' correct? i didnt get kicked in the head?
[08:56] <viktor_> how do i look at repo's whats that
[08:56] <eagles0513875> repositories
[08:56] <vzduch> Amarok should play FLAC ootb
[08:56] <viktor_> where do i find that
[08:56] <eagles0513875> wel for some reason mine isnt
[08:56] <eagles0513875> viktor what r u trying to look for
[08:56] <viktor_> just wanan see hole list of things that i can install like programs etc i might need
[08:57] <viktor_> just wanna browse
[08:57] <eagles0513875> then u might wanna open up adept and look in there then close it go to the command line and type in sudo apt-get instll then the name of the pkg
[08:58] <viktor_> yer but is there a site to veiw packages
[08:58] <eagles0513875> ohhh
[08:58] <eagles0513875> there is but i dotn remember the address
[08:58] <eagles0513875> let me find it
[08:58] <viktor_> okai thank you so much
[09:00] <eagles0513875> viktor_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:00] <eagles0513875> is hardy the name of the next release
[09:00] <viktor_> oh ur the king thanks so much
[09:01] <viktor_> how do chek what kde im using like version
[09:01] <hara> hello. anyone here use the GATOS driver for ati cards?
[09:03] <viktor_> how do chek what kde im using like version
[09:03] <eagles0513875> viktor_: click on help then at bottom it says about kde
[09:04] <eagles0513875> im having a problem with sound konverter
[09:04] <eagles0513875> its not decoding and then reenxoding
[09:05] <eagles0513875> !w32codecs
[09:05] <ubot3> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[09:05] <eagles0513875> !codecs
[09:05] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:05] <posingaspopular> Jucato: ping...
[09:05] <Kred> flashplugin-nonfree installed working picture but no sound. Any idea what could be wrong?
[09:05] <eagles0513875> Kred: have u checked the mixer
[09:06] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: any idea why soundkonverter is not decoding or encoding my audio
[09:06] <Kred> eagles0513875: I've taken a look at it but have no idea what setting could make audio work for Flash, since audio is working with Amarok.
[09:07] <n3kubuntu> kred
[09:07] <n3kubuntu> try doing this
[09:07] <n3kubuntu> click you volume ico
[09:07] <n3kubuntu> icon
[09:07] <n3kubuntu> click mixer
[09:07] <n3kubuntu> click settings tab
[09:07] <n3kubuntu> click configure kmix
[09:08] <n3kubuntu> and check box volume type: absolute
[09:08] <n3kubuntu> volume values:
[09:08] <n3kubuntu> absolute
[09:08] <n3kubuntu> now try
[09:08] <Kred> Done
[09:08] <n3kubuntu> try
[09:09] <posingaspopular> eagles0513875: whats the error
[09:09] <posingaspopular> because it used to not work in feisty, but works perfectly in gutsy for me
[09:09] <n3kubuntu> did it work kred
[09:09] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: no error the output file ends up 0b
[09:10] <n3kubuntu> kred
[09:10] <Kred> n3kubuntu: no
[09:10] <n3kubuntu> ?
[09:10] <n3kubuntu> ok
[09:10] <posingaspopular> .... hmm
[09:10] <posingaspopular> Kred: is it alsamixer by any chance?
[09:10] <eagles0513875> what is the name of the w32codecs pkg
[09:11] <n3kubuntu> kred did you click apply or ok
[09:11] <Kred> posingaspopular: how do I know that?
[09:11] <Kred> n3kubuntu: yes.
[09:11] <Kred> Please remember that I do have working sound with Amarok
[09:11] <Kred> The problem is with Flash, both in Konqueror and Firefox
[09:12] <posingaspopular> ah flash...
[09:12] <posingaspopular> i duno, because i dont use itmuch, if ever
[09:12] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: whats the w32codecs pkg name
[09:12] <posingaspopular> !win32
[09:12] <ubot3> Factoid win32 not found
[09:13] <posingaspopular> !codecs
[09:13] <ubot3> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:13] <posingaspopular> i dont know the actual name, but ubotu does...
[09:14] <eagles0513875> !w32codecs
[09:14] <ubot3> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[09:14] <Kred> Could my sound problem be a problem with codecs? Or could I totally be missing some codec?
[09:14] <eagles0513875> posingaspopular: that doesnt tell me much
[09:15] <posingaspopular> yea i duno, like i said, i dont use it much
[09:16] <vzduch> !info w32codecs
[09:16] <ubot3> Package w32codecs does not exist in gutsy
[09:16] <vzduch> !info w32codec
[09:16] <ubot3> Package w32codec does not exist in gutsy
[09:16] <eagles0513875> then i have a problem
[09:16] <eagles0513875> lol
[09:17] <eagles0513875> sry bout that
[09:17] <vzduch> seems it was different.. or Medibuntu pkgs are not covered by the bot
[09:17] <eagles0513875> brb need to restart x really quickly
[09:17] <n4kubuntu> ok
[09:18] <n4kubuntu> ok
[09:18] <vagelisks> goodmorning
[09:18] <posingaspopular> so danny/n3kbuntu/n4kubuntu is trying to so a distupgrade and having a problem with some packages. here is the CL output. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42442/ i need bed. it's 430 am
[09:18] <vagelisks> how are you today?
[09:18] <eagles0513875> im back guys
[09:18] <posingaspopular> plz help guys, im too tired to think
[09:18] <posingaspopular> <-bed
[09:18] <JackPhil> I can't open mht file with konqueror
[09:19] <vagelisks> hello from greece
[09:19] <posingaspopular> n4kubuntu: gl
[09:19] <n4kubuntu> kk
[09:19] <eagles0513875> what codecs can i use since w32codecs isnt available in gutsy cuz im having trouble with sound converter
[09:19] <vzduch> !medibuntu | eagles0513875
[09:19] <ubot3> eagles0513875: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[09:19] <vagelisks> may i ask you something about irc servers?
[09:19] <vzduch> !ask | vagelisks
[09:19] <ubot3> vagelisks: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:19] <vagelisks> lol
[09:19] <vagelisks> ok
[09:20] <eagles0513875> what other audio conversion software is there
[09:20] <vagelisks> how i get the list of the availble servers?
[09:20] <n4kubuntu> can anbody help me ? im trying to upgrade to kubuntu 7.10 and this code pops up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/42442/
[09:20] <vzduch> vagelisks: what servers?
[09:21] <vagelisks> xm...
[09:21] <vagelisks> now ia ma connected to the ubuntu server
[09:21] <vagelisks> i want to connect to a greek server
[09:21] <eagles0513875> brb need to restart my machine
[09:21] <vagelisks> so i want to find the greek servers
[09:22] <vzduch> !aptfix | n4kubuntu
[09:22] <ubot3> n4kubuntu: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[09:22] <kubuntu-nioubs> hi
[09:22] <vzduch> vagelisks: s/server/channel/
[09:22] <vagelisks> hi kubuntu-nioubs
[09:22] <vzduch> !gr | vagelisks
[09:22] <vagelisks> thanks