[00:26] <TheLordOfTime> anyone here able to help me resolve an issue with quilt patches?
[00:26] <TheLordOfTime> i'm trying to write a quilt patch using quilt new [patchname], quilt add [relevantfile], edit the file, do quilt refresh...
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> after that point, should quilt pop remove the codechanges?
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> or rather undo the changes i did when i edited the file?
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> because in the current case, the patches all get their diff stuff, which then doesn't apply.
[00:27] <TheLordOfTime> complains about the headers :/
[00:29] <RAOF> TheLordOfTime: quilt refresh will *not* pop the changes. It'll just update the diff.
[00:29] <TheLordOfTime> you missed a line
[00:29] <RAOF> If you want to pop the changes off, you'll need to ‘quilt pop’
[00:29] <TheLordOfTime> <TheLordOfTime> after that point, should quilt pop remove the codechanges?
[00:29] <RAOF> Ahem.
[00:29] <RAOF> So I did.
[00:29] <TheLordOfTime> after i said what i've doen :p
[00:29] <RAOF> Move along :)
[00:29] <TheLordOfTime> RAOF, but then when i go quilt push -a to check if it works with all the other patches, it errors
[00:30] <TheLordOfTime> lemme see if i cant dredge up the logs
[00:30] <RAOF> Yeah, that'd be helpful.
[00:31] <TheLordOfTime> ... okay, the patches disappeared, i wonder if my system segv'd...
[00:31] <TheLordOfTime> give me a moment.
[00:40] <TheLordOfTime> ... huh
[00:40] <TheLordOfTime> that's... interesting.
[00:40] <TheLordOfTime> apparently its not erroring now
[00:40]  * TheLordOfTime wonders if the dget on the package was broken.
[00:42] <RAOF> Hurrah for the passive fix :)
[00:42] <TheLordOfTime> well, lets hope adding the next CVE patch and the one after don't cause this breakage
[00:42] <TheLordOfTime> not to mention lets hope quilt correctly adds the dep3 tags
[00:42] <TheLordOfTime> since it failed to do that last time when i told it to
[00:42] <TheLordOfTime> but first...
[00:43] <TheLordOfTime> COFFEE
[00:54] <TheLordOfTime> is there an easy way to add DEP3 tags to a quilt patch?
[00:54] <TheLordOfTime> rather than me hand-adding them.
[01:07] <RAOF> TheLordOfTime: I don't know; I generally get the DEP3 tags from the VCS I did the patch in.
[04:55] <Guest95055> micahg: you awake still?
[04:55] <Guest95055> argh
[04:55] <micahg> can I deny it?
[04:55] <Guest95055> sorry this is mfisch
[04:56] <Guest95055> micahg: so a question on a new rev of transmission
[04:56] <Guest95055> micahg: I pulled it down and built it and it requires no changes at all
[04:56] <Guest95055> micahg: I mean just uscan/uupdate and build, well a small changelog edit
[04:56] <Guest95055> micahg: but it generates a 3.7MB debdiff
[04:57] <Guest95055> is that still what I should attach to the bug?
[04:57] <micahg> well, we're "in-sync" with Debian, maybe get it updated there first?
[04:57] <micahg> (it's a merge)
[04:58] <Guest95055> we have a couple changes from debian
[04:58] <micahg> right, but Debian has 2.73 as well
[04:58] <Guest95055> getting it updated there would certainly avoid us having a 96644 line debdiff to read
[04:58] <Guest95055> micahg: thanks
[04:59] <micahg> Guest95055: you diff the debian dir instead of the whole thing
[04:59] <micahg> but either way, I think it's best at this point if the Debian maintainer is open (which he appears to be) is to get it there first
[04:59] <Guest95055> micahg: with a debdiff?
[04:59] <micahg> yeah
[04:59] <Guest95055> interesting
[05:00] <Guest95055> our bzr is way outdated because I tried that route as well
[05:00] <Guest95055> micahg: okay thanks for the advice
[05:00]  * Guest95055 keeps smacking the nickserver without much luck
[05:01] <Unit193> Guest95055: /msg nickserv release nick pass
[05:01] <mfisch> thanks, I was tyring to ghost it instead
[05:01] <Unit193> Sure.
[07:55] <dholbach> good morning
[15:17]  * Laney arghs at mysteriously losing a tab with a fairly lengthy bug comment in it
[15:17] <Laney> there must be an extension to get form content back
[15:19] <micahg> Laney: undo close tab?
[15:19] <Laney> no
[15:19] <Laney> just got some random tabs
[15:19] <Laney> i thought perhaps i accidently navigated away, but going back just took me elsewhere :(
[15:20]  * Laney retypes
[18:05] <micahg> Rhonda: well, no change backports are a little easier than changeful ones
[18:05] <xnox> Laney: in chromium it prevents me from navigating away/closing if there is "typed" content that I may destroy by going away.
[18:06] <Laney> mmm, I don't think FF does that
[18:06] <Laney> some websites do though
[18:06] <micahg> Feed the Google with more content...
[18:08] <xnox> my approach to privacy is to generate as much FUD content about me as possible, then it makes it harder to find the gems of personal information that did leak through.
[18:08] <xnox> if one is over-cautious, the only bit of private information that will eventually leak will also end up on top the front page search result for your name.
[18:09] <micahg> xnox: so, that story about you braving the rapids by Tiera Del Fuego is a cover?
[18:09]  * xnox no comment
[18:12] <xnox> micahg: so what is the process for $universe package USN?
[18:13] <micahg> xnox: none
[18:13] <xnox> micahg: do I make patches for affected releases & subscribe security-sponsors?
[18:13] <xnox> micahg: does it even go into -security pocket? or simply -updates?
[18:13] <micahg> xnox: yep (ubuntu-security-sponsors)
[18:13] <xnox> ack.
[19:00] <oVeRMiND> hello world!
[21:11] <jtaylor> micahg: why does backportpackage print build depende twice? :( e.g. 1091411
[21:11] <jtaylor> and ping ipython :)
[21:16] <jtaylor> nevermind seems fixed in trunk
[21:20] <Laney> oh backports
[21:20] <Laney> I hope to find more time for you
[21:38] <micahg> jtaylor: can it wait until next week when I'm on vacation?
[21:39] <jtaylor> sure
[21:39] <micahg> no idea why it does that (ISTR a bug being filed and maybe even fixed0


[04:27] <knocte> xnox: any luck with z13?
[04:43] <knocte> (my buffer is not long enough so I'm not sure there was any follow-up about this)
[09:06] <seb128> doko, http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/g/gnustep-base/focal/amd64 seems unhappy with the new libxml2 you uploaded because xml-config2 has e.g -llzma but the package doesn't depends on it (unsure how it worked before but the depends was not there either)
[09:40] <Saviq> juliank: hey, when you have some time, I'd like to retrace my steps and try and see what got broke for me re: MOK last week
[09:41] <juliank> Saviq: Not sure when I'll have time, also shim in focal seems broken, it can't load fwupd anymore so yeah, lot of brokenness
[09:43] <LocutusOfBorg> kirkland, hello, what is the reason to have byobu not in sync with debian?
[09:43] <juliank> Saviq: Were you on focal?
[09:43] <LocutusOfBorg> the diff is just changelog, I propose to syncpackage it and remove it from MoM page
[09:44] <Saviq> juliank: yes
[09:44] <juliank> ok
[09:45] <Saviq> juliank: mine's not critical, but maybe it will lead to some improvements
[12:14] <ahasenack> can anybody shed some light on why the maas deb2snap upload triggered a dep8 test of "ikiwiki-hosting"? https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#maas
[12:15] <ahasenack> I say deb2snap loosely, it's a deb that's obsoleting the deb and installing the snap, just like lxd did
[12:15] <ackk> FTR, the autopkgtests page shows: ikiwiki-hosting {"triggers": ["maas/1:0.1"], "submit-time": "2020-02-18 20:02:32"}
[13:41] <juliank> tjaalton: ooh, I just upgraded to that mesa rc in proposed. I think that defaults to iris now? Also I saw a bunch of more kernel crash fixes for i915, I should probably collect them and open a bug with them to get them cherry-picked.
[13:42] <juliank> Yes I know I'm doing "scary" stuff w/ my system
[13:42] <juliank> I think there are 4 patches missing in our kernel
[13:42] <tjaalton> juliank: yeah a final release should arrive this week, wanted to see if the fixes in rc helps openscad
[13:43] <juliank> But I can't find the gitlab issue anymore
[13:46] <juliank> drm/i915/execlists: Always force a context reload when rewinding RING_TAIL
[13:46] <juliank> for https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/issues/1164
[13:46] <juliank> 76f9764cc3d5 ("drm/i915: Introduce a vma.kref")
[13:46] <juliank> bbca083de291 ("drm/i915: Serialise i915_active_acquire() with __active_retire()")
[13:46] <juliank> from https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/issues/1201
[13:49] <juliank> let's track that in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1863898
[14:06] <coreycb> jamespage: infinity: fyi current release schedule proposal for openstack victoria (maps to 20.10) https://review.opendev.org/#/c/708471/. they were nice enough to bump it back to 10/14 final release from 10/21. I'm hoping that 20.10 final release will be 10/22.
[14:14] <ahasenack> ackk: maybe send that question to ubuntu-devel-discuss@ then
[14:14] <ahasenack> I see the dep8 test is still in some queue
[14:14] <ahasenack> "in progress"
[14:15] <ahasenack> that area is one of the "black boxes"
[14:19] <tjaalton> juliank: can you send them to the list?
[14:20] <juliank> tjaalton: I haven't looked how well they are cherry-pickable, so I don't have patches to send. I just forwarded my stalking of upstream bugs :)
[14:21] <juliank> Oh, but at least cloning a kernel should be decently fast on my internet connection these days
[16:48] <directhex> I can't repro an issue from Focal on Debian Sid. are there anything resembling porterboxes for Ubuntu port fixing?
[17:10] <tumbleweed> chroots?
[17:11] <tumbleweed> but no, no porterboxes
[17:49] <pyusr> hi, there is a major issue in python 2 EOL and ubuntu 16.04, any chance to fix it ?
[17:54] <cjwatson> You'll probably have more chance of an answer if you say what it is, preferably in the form of a bug report
[17:55] <pyusr> the quesiton is to open it on pypa or here
[17:55] <pyusr> i'll gist it, and past eit
[17:55] <cjwatson> If it's a bug you want fixing in Ubuntu then you'll need to open a bug report on Launchpad about it
[17:55] <cjwatson> ubuntu-bug <name of package>
[17:56] <cjwatson> (I don't maintain Ubuntu's Python - this is just a general point-in-the-right-direction comment)
[17:57] <ahasenack> is there something up with the arm dep8 runners? The queue is huge
[17:57] <ahasenack> but empty in the other arches
[17:57] <ahasenack> or are the other arches bad, and arm is the only one running? :)
[18:15] <pyusr> this is the issue with ubuntu 16.04 and system python-virtualenv: https://github.com/pypa/packaging-problems/issues/325
[18:55] <teward> mitya57: correct, we can't sync as is (for #1863528)  Hope you don't mind me poking and testing in the few hours of boredom I had here :P
[19:20] <genii> If I see some "fakesync" version of a package available with apt-cache policy, what does this signify?
[19:21] <genii> ..for instance https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4zGkNrcsrx/
[19:40] <mitya57> teward: sure, thanks for your help with testing it!
[19:40] <rafaeldtinoco> ahasenack: samba merge +1ed if you want to upload today before eod.
[19:41] <ahasenack> rafaeldtinoco: thanks!
[19:41] <rafaeldtinoco> i left a quick note about masked service and systemd helper
[19:41] <ahasenack> that has been there forever
[19:41] <ahasenack> it was added to *fix* a bug :)
[20:05] <teward> mitya57: you're welcome.  I figured testing a sync in a PPA for building was easy :P
[20:05] <teward> boy was I wrong (had to spin a Focal VM just to get pbuilder/sbuild to work right for local building/testing)
[20:05] <teward> but glad i could assist :)
[20:05] <teward> (evidence easy that FTBFS was still present, odd it's only in amd64 though and completely as syntax errors...)
[20:18] <juliank> genii: someone had to sync the package locally because the tarball in debian was different
[20:18] <juliank> or other similar stuff
[20:19] <genii> juliank: Thanks for the explanation
[21:42] <bryce> is there information at hand about the icu transition, that someone could point me to?  I'm trying to understand how it's blocking dovecot and php7.4.
[21:48] <LocutusOfBorg> bryce, https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/html/auto-icu.html
[21:48] <LocutusOfBorg> they link icu?
[21:50] <bryce> LocutusOfBorg, yes, dovecot has an unversioned b-d on libicu-dev
[22:30] <LocutusOfBorg> bryce, so you have the answer, it will migrate with icu


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[11:39] <guiverc> bashing-om; belated read thru of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue763 & looks good (sorry for lateness)
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[22:22]  * guiverc starting uwn
[22:25] <Bashing-om> ^ \o/
[22:27] <guiverc> https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/11/28/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-763/
[22:28] <guiverc> Bashing-om, if you can glance over that I'd apprecaite it.. had to paste it 4 times to get it correct; not sure why (I think issue is me/local though)
[22:29] <Bashing-om> guiverc: checking ^ :D
[22:31] <Bashing-om> Fridge: Spot check and all looks good.
[22:32] <guiverc> thanks Bashing-om .... busy replying to comment on fridge  (non-uwn stuff)
[22:32] <guiverc> (replying outside of fridge so I don't need to 'approve' comment)
[22:33] <Bashing-om> :D
[22:46] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: The Fridge: Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter Issue 763 @ https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2022/11/28/ubuntu-weekly-newsletter-issue-763/
[22:48] <guiverc> Bashing-om, as you're on Membership Board; I'll provide you with pastebin of what I sent... https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/JrrhKwfDR5/   ignore/comment as only FYI  (two requests were made by OP)
[22:48] <Bashing-om> guiverc: reading ^ .
[22:49]  * guiverc suggests you don't expect much..
[22:52] <guiverc> pasted to twitter (& telegram/reddit)
[22:53] <guiverc> uwn 763 ^
[22:53] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Tou did well -- however - might be better: https://forms.canonical.com/certificate/ << Ubuntu members certificate application form.
[22:54] <Bashing-om> You*
[22:56] <guiverc> that page was listed on the two links (inc. original link OP used included... I had it copied to paste but didn't see need), yeah I could have made it clearer... I suspect issue was OP not being Ubuntu Member
[22:57] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Yeah the suggested link is prominent - will all wash out in the wash. You did your duty :D
[22:59] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Speaking of a wash - clear now to wash Gdoc : wash/rinse/repeat !
[22:59] <guiverc> yep scrub away...
[23:00] <Bashing-om> dewwing :P
[23:20] <guiverc> uwn 763 posted to fb too
[23:25] <Bashing-om> UWN: Issue764 off to a start - December here we come :P