[13:55] <wesley__> robin0800 thats what i installing now, and the live cd booted, desktop effects works, sound to, everthing works
[13:57] <wesley__> okay here something i wanna know, i have 2 gb memory how much swap do i need then
[13:57] <Pici> wesley__: Are you planning to hibernate the computer?
[13:57] <Pici> wesley__: i.e: suspend to disk?
[13:57] <wesley__> Uh not really, but it can be that i want to use it sometime
[13:58] <Pici> wesley__: Well, you'll need at least as much swap as ram if you are.  1.5 times is a safe bet.
[13:58] <sehven> just got my 8.10 running hours ago, cant seem to make desktop cube work
[13:58] <sehven> help anyone?
[13:58] <wesley__> most time i just shutdown, i almost never hibernate, but i want everthing to work, and space on harddrive is more then enough
[13:58] <wesley__> so 4000 mb swap ?
[13:59] <wesley__> or or say 2500 ?
[14:00] <wesley__> how much should i need for root, 15000 should be enough ?
[14:00] <Pici> wesley__: 2500 is good, 10gb is fine for root.
[14:01] <sehven> help with desktop cube pls
[14:01] <Pici> sehven: Can you elaborate?
[14:01] <wesley__> so with 10 i would have enough space ?
[14:01] <Pici> wesley__: Yes.
[14:02] <wesley__> going make jfs systema
[14:02] <wesley__> jfs file systems from it
[14:02] <sehven> Pici, i want to use the desktop cube, but cant seem to get it to work
[14:02] <wesley__> jfs means more gb , ext3 takes big amount of gb away
[14:02] <sehven> already downloaded compiz stuffs
[14:03] <Pici> wesley__: You aren't going to find a lot of support if you have problems with your JFS install though, ext3 is the supported fs type for installations.
[14:03] <Pici> sehven: Do you get an error when you try to enable it?
[14:03] <wesley__> never had problems before with jfs
[14:04] <sehven> nope
[14:04] <aleite>  Hello guys!
[14:04] <sehven> it just wont do the cube thing
[14:04] <wesley__> you cant resize it, but thats it, jfs seems to be faster and got more gb
[14:04] <aleite>  I compiled KDE from trunk. Does anyone know how to make kdm my default display manager?
[14:05] <Pici> sehven: Then #compiz-fusion should be able to help you setup the proper settings to enable the cube
[14:05] <Pici> aleite: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[14:05] <sehven> oki Pici thx ^^
[14:06] <aleite> Pici: I compiled it myself. I tried it but it says kdm is not installed
[14:07] <sehven> oppps T_T accidentaly removed panel
[14:07] <sehven> how do i restore it?
[14:07] <wesley__> pici far i know is xfs not supported as root in ubuntu, but jfs is no problem
[14:08] <wesley__> werent they going to add ext4 to 9.04 ?
[14:09] <Pici> wesley__: I mean not supported as in you won't find many people with similar installs to help you with it. Whether the installer itself will install on jfs, I'm not sure.  And yes, ext4 support is in 9.04.
[14:09] <Tex-Twil>  Hello, how can I disable the gdm login and use only a console login ?
[14:09] <Tex-Twil> kdm sorry
[14:09] <wesley__> No ext4 in 9.04 alpha yet
[14:10] <wesley__> jfs will install, i use it on my notebook to, if you compare jfs to ext3 then jfs is cleary better
[14:10] <wesley__> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems
[14:11] <tiveven> Hello, what is what somebody can tell me how to desinstaller xubuntu
[14:13] <eraca> merhaba arkadaşlar
[14:13] <wesley__> when ext4 is out can you convert ext3 to ext4 then ?
[14:13] <Tm_T> yes
[14:13] <Pici> tiveven: Just install something else over it/reclaim the space with your other OS.
[14:14] <eraca> hi
[14:15] <leif> hey is konquer a good browser and wich back end do it use
[14:16] <wesley__> yes
[14:16] <leif> is it a webkit or
[14:17] <stdin> konqueror can use webkit or khtml
[14:17] <tiveven> Pici: I do not want to ecraser because I want to gain(win) some memory of storage
[14:17] <leif> ok
[14:18] <torkiano> leif: I'm using webkit with konqueror and seems great
[14:19] <torkiano> There is a PPA with webkitkde here:  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/paulo-miguel-dias/ubuntu intrepid main
[14:20] <wesley__> stdin do you know what i best can use jfs or ext3 or doesnt that mather? i know you cant shrink jfs but jfs is faster and more gb
[14:21] <mooperd> Hello, I have the beta version of kde 4.2 running and Im getting all this strangeness on the task bar http://www.moonet.co.uk/kde4.2.eurgh.png. I have tried both the open source and nvidia drivers and get the same effect. Its not really harming usability but it is darned ugly.
[14:22] <wesley__> hmm that is nvidia related, sure of it, i dont have that on my intel vga
[14:22] <kalel> ciao a tutti
[14:23] <kalel> non riesco a condividere l'hard disk con virtualbox sapete aiutarmi?
[14:23] <Tm_T> !it | kalel
[14:23] <mooperd> wesley__: I have tried both drivers and get exactly the same effect
[14:24] <stdin> wesley__: depends what you want to use it for. generally ext3 is fine
[14:24] <wesley__> stdin just downloading, but on internet there are bechmarks that say that ext3 is slow and like
[14:26] <stdin> wesley__: ext3 is fine, the bottleneck is the hardware (HDD)
[14:27] <rayack> yee
[14:28] <wesley__> but why does ext3 take more space then say jfs ? I know ext3 is default and best supported under linux, and even Windows
[14:28] <leif> is there a way to see wich engine i run in konquer
[14:29] <sehven> wats shortcut for console?
[14:29] <sehven> i lost my desktop
[14:29] <stdin> leif: the one with kubuntu is khtml
[14:30] <sehven> and panel
[14:30] <sehven> T_T
[14:30] <stdin> sehven: Ctrl-Alt-F# where # is 1 - 6
[14:30] <stdin> or Alt-F# from another console
[14:30] <leif> ok so is it posible to change for webkit
[14:31] <stdin> wesley__: it doesn't take that much space, and a journal is a good thing
[14:31] <Tm_T> leif: you need package called webkitkde
[14:31] <wesley__> stdin can i convert ext3 later to ext4? because on the moment i can not choose ext4
[14:31] <leif> ahh that one i have thanx
[14:31] <Tm_T> wesley__: can
[14:31] <leif> thanx Tm_T
[14:32] <wesley__> Tm_T how would that go? will there be a tool for ?
[14:32] <Tm_T> wesley__: few commands and changing mount parameters and done, I believe
[14:32] <Tm_T> wesley__: nothing you should worry until it's time
[14:33] <wesley__> isnt that hard? but ubuntu 9.04 has already ext4, can gparted convert orso ?
[14:33] <Tm_T> wesley__: no, nothing hard I believe
[14:33] <stdin> "The ext3 filesystem is forward compatible with ext4, making it possible to mount an ext3 filesystem as ext4 and use it as such." Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4#Backward_compatibility
[14:34] <kalel> ragazzi scusate se sono italiano
[14:34] <MisterFlibble> wesley__: According to Eric Sandeen, you can mount an ext3 volume as ext4, but you have to choose whether or not to enable extents, which will destroy backwards compatibility with ext3 (but they're ext4's biggest feature)
[14:34] <kalel> sapete aiutarmi con le cartelle condivise di virtualbox?
[14:34] <MisterFlibble> if I understood him right
[14:34] <Tm_T> !it | kalel
[14:35] <kalel> command virtualbox folder condivise
[14:36] <wesley__> But i gues that converting would be hard ? or mounting? because you will need to edit that file
[14:36] <MisterFlibble> wesley__: XFS has been in the kernel for quite some time, its what I use, it had some problems with Linux 2.4 being stupid, but it has always worked well for me in recent 2.6 kernels
[14:37] <stdin> wesley__: no harder than converting ext2 to ext3
[14:37] <MisterFlibble> wesley__: No, it's just an option as part of the command to mount it
[14:37] <wesley__> XFS and JFS seems to be better, but overall ext3 got more features, so that where i think that maby its better to pick ext3, so i can shrink
[14:37] <MisterFlibble> if you think you may want to go back to ext3 later, don't enable extents
[14:37] <MisterFlibble> JFS is basically abandoned
[14:37] <wesley__> oh
[14:38] <wesley__> lol i am using it on my notebook
[14:38] <MisterFlibble> and it is incompatible with SELinux (Ubuntu uses AppArmor though)
[14:38] <MisterFlibble> Thats why you can't use JFS in Fedora or Red Hat
[14:39] <wesley__> ow, but those bechmarks are confusing most times
[14:39] <sehven> pheww
[14:39] <sehven> that was a close one
[14:39] <MisterFlibble> Reiser and JFS are basically abandoned, ext3 is a freaking dinosaur, ext2 is worse
[14:39] <MisterFlibble> XFS is the only decent filesystem the kernel supports
[14:39] <MisterFlibble> Ext4 will be up there with XFS though
[14:39] <sehven> my balls almost ran off again losing panel ^_^
[14:39] <wesley__> But you cant use it as root, but i see ext3 as the ntfs from Linux
[14:40] <MisterFlibble> and XFS has a defragmenter, (Ext4 will eventually)
[14:40] <MisterFlibble> wesley__: Easy, make a /boot partition as ext3
[14:40] <MisterFlibble> it only has to be maybe 300 megs or so
[14:40] <wesley__> can xfs be shrinks ?
[14:40] <MisterFlibble> or you can use LILO
[14:41] <MisterFlibble> LILO can boot XFS, GRUB is just fairly stupid
[14:41] <wesley__> i have 1 tb
[14:41] <MisterFlibble> no, XFS can't be shrunk
[14:41] <MisterFlibble> you can grow it, but not shrink (xfs_growfs)
[14:42] <wesley__> xfs is faster then ext3?
[14:42] <MisterFlibble> wesley__: It wastes less space and it blows ext3 away on most disk operations
[14:42] <MisterFlibble> the downside is GRUB is stupid, and XFS can't be shrunk
[14:43] <wesley__> JFS can be used as root
[14:43] <MisterFlibble> and you never have to do a fsck because the system does one as it mounts the filesystem
[14:43] <MisterFlibble> it's so quick you don't really even notice
[14:44] <MisterFlibble> yeah, but IBM essentially has 1 guy working on XFS, in his spare time
[14:44] <MisterFlibble> so you tell me where it's going :P
[14:44] <MisterFlibble> I mean, JFS
[14:44] <MisterFlibble> :P
[14:45] <MisterFlibble> JFS should not be used, I'm surprised it's still an option
[14:45] <wesley__> getting crazy XD, so what shoul by partition table be ?
[14:46] <MisterFlibble> meh, I just give a few hundred megs of ext3 to /boot, however much SWAP I need, and the rest to XFS on /
[14:46] <MisterFlibble> make sure you get the xfsdump package when you get a moment
[14:47] <wesley__> is it safe using xfs ? because it isnt supported to root
[14:47] <MisterFlibble> you can mount your root file system as XFS
[14:47] <MisterFlibble> it's not supported on /boot though
[14:47] <MisterFlibble> unless you use LILO
[14:48] <wesley__> so how much should be the boot ?
[14:48] <wesley__> mb
[14:48] <MisterFlibble> well, Ubuntu will happily litter your disk with an unlimited number of old kernels
[14:49] <MisterFlibble> (and their boot images)
[14:49] <wesley__> few gb then ?
[14:49] <MisterFlibble> so a few hundred megs, and make sure to remove your old kernel packages and modules every so often
[14:49] <wesley__> 100 mb you suggest ?
[14:50] <MisterFlibble> Fedora leaves two old kernels behind
[14:50] <MisterFlibble> I wish Ubuntu did that
[14:50] <MisterFlibble> I do 300-350
[14:50] <MisterFlibble> I've never had a problem
[14:50] <wesley__> is that enough ?
[14:50] <wesley__> but you need to remove old kernels
[14:50] <MisterFlibble> well, if you have an insane amount of space you're not going to use, you can give it more
[14:51] <MisterFlibble> I just prune the old kernel packages now and then, in Synaptic
[14:51] <wesley__> 1 tb i said
[14:51] <wesley__> my mini itx has a 1 tb hitachi hd in it
[14:52] <MisterFlibble> Or like I said, you can use LILO as your boot loader
[14:52] <MisterFlibble> Ubuntu does give you the option
[14:52] <wesley__> 9.04 doesnt give much options ( a bug )
[14:53] <MisterFlibble> then all you need to worry about is your root file system and your swap file
[14:53] <wesley__> i make / and a /home and swap maby better using ext3
[14:53] <MisterFlibble> well, doesn't 9.04 support Ext4?
[14:54] <wesley__> not in alpha 2,  its the only live cd you have for kubunty
[14:54] <MisterFlibble> I thought manual partitioning was broke on the alpha 2 livecd
[14:55] <wesley__> uh not really it kind of works, only editing doesnt work, but have a complete emty table
[14:56] <MisterFlibble> XFS was ported to Linux from IRIX
[14:56] <wesley__> whats irix ?
[14:56] <MisterFlibble> and IRIX is still better than Linux in some ways
[14:56] <MisterFlibble> SGI's version of UNIX
[14:56] <wesley__> has it kde ?
[14:56] <MisterFlibble> no, it used CDE I think
[14:57] <wesley__> then its no try
[14:57] <MisterFlibble> well, it 's not free
[14:57] <MisterFlibble> it's not open sourced
[14:57] <wesley__> ow
[14:57] <wesley__> its microsoft friend
[14:57] <MisterFlibble> and it never was meant for a PC
[14:58] <MisterFlibble> no
[14:58] <LinuxApe> Anyone use usb-creator?
[14:58] <wesley__> yeah me works
[14:58] <MisterFlibble> it was just one of the proprietary UNIX systems left over from the 80s/90s
[14:58] <wesley__> ow
[14:58] <MisterFlibble> HP and IBM still have their own too
[14:59] <LinuxApe> wesley__: I tried it today - gets as far as the Starting Up dialog and hangs there.  Ever see or hear of that type of behavior?
[14:59] <wesley__> dont knoe
[14:59] <wesley__> Going name my mini itx Dexter
[15:01] <wesley__> my notebook names Grimmjow
[15:04] <wesley__> Swap can be added always later ?
[15:06] <wesley__> i have left 2500 to make swap later
[15:09] <sergio__> ciao a tutti
[15:09] <sergio__> mio primo login, e mio secondo giorno di kubuntu
[15:11] <wesley__> only germaan englisch support
[15:11] <sergio__> ops sorry
[15:11] <sergio__> I thought about it later
[15:12] <sergio__> I have a question, though
[15:13] <LinuxApe> Figured it out - had an ext3 filesystem on the usb drive instead of vfat.
[15:13] <galathalion> any nice mediaplayer?
[15:13] <galathalion> amarok kinda sux
[15:14] <LinuxApe> galathalion:  Have you upgraded to the new version of Amarok?  It's quite slick.
[15:14] <galathalion> what version?
[15:15] <LinuxApe> 2.0
[15:15] <sehven> help desktop cube dont work!
[15:15] <galathalion> LinuxApe: no, how do i do that?
[15:15] <LinuxApe> It's not in the repositories yet, but there are instructions on kubuntu.org on upgrading.
[15:16] <galathalion> amarok just keep crashing
[15:16] <galathalion> :<
[15:16] <LinuxApe> http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.0
[15:16] <somekool> hi there, my kubuntu system does not detect my 2GB of ram, anyone can help ? I did a grep HIGHMEM in /book/* and the running kernel seems to support up to 4GB
[15:16] <galathalion> thx
[15:17] <LinuxApe> instructions here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0
[15:17] <somekool>  /boot/*
[15:25] <torkiano> MisterFlibble: Here is a good fs benchmark between ext4 ext3 XFS and reiser: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ext4_benchmarks
[15:30] <inocencio> ajuda
[15:32] <inocencio> ola boa tarde
[15:32] <MisterFlibble> torkiano: XFS kicks butt for as old as it is, it's like 17 years old and still beats Ext4 as often as Ext4 beats it :)
[15:33] <torkiano> MisterFlibble: yes, seems to be a good fs. I'll try it ;-)
[15:33] <torkiano> And wait for brtfs...
[15:34] <MisterFlibble> torkiano: It takes the pain out of working with large files and directories
[15:34] <MisterFlibble> move/copy/delete, stuff Ext3 will leave you waiting on forever
[15:35] <MisterFlibble> I just wish they'd fix GRUB
[15:35] <MisterFlibble> *sigh*
[15:35] <MisterFlibble> I'm not really sure why distributions switched from LILO to GRUB, when LILO works so much better
[15:36] <MisterFlibble> politics I imagine
[15:36] <_lumm> kashif stop privat messages.
[15:36] <torkiano> And is XFS suitable for external hard discs?
[15:36] <_lumm> ask here if u got troubles
[15:38] <torkiano> I guess that yes, isn't it?
[15:38] <MisterFlibble> torkiano: Yes, but MAKE SURE you have the thing properly unmounted before you yank the USB/Firewire cord
[15:38] <torkiano> MisterFlibble: no problem, is a fixed-external disc (1TB)
[15:40] <alonea> how do you make you trash can into a black hole (as when you delete something, it actually deletes)? I was told once upon a time, but forgot how.
[15:41] <kashif> hello
[15:41] <kashif__> hello
[15:41] <alonea> hello
[15:43] <torkiano> I have a 2.6.27-10 linux kernel ¿CAn I use a ext4 filesystem?
[15:47] <WIZARDSLOVAK> hello
[15:47] <WIZARDSLOVAK> anyone here?
[15:47] <MisterFlibble> torkiano: No, Ext4 isn't officially in the kernel til 2.6.28
[15:48] <MisterFlibble> Fedora has been shipping Ext4Dev, which is the development version of Ext4, but you don't want to mess with that
[15:48] <WIZARDSLOVAK> i got a question , i have PC dual boot xp and suse,and i wanna chanfe suse for kubuntu , what should i do?
[15:48] <wesley__> So i have install kubuntu 9.04 succesfull
[15:48] <cuznt> simply install kubuntu
[15:49] <_lumm> !in
[15:49] <Pici> !jaunty
[15:49] <MisterFlibble> WIZARDSLOVAK: Format the partitions Suse is on and give them to Kubuntu :)
[15:49] <wesley__> ive chosen for all safety just ext3
[15:49] <wesley__> Pici like i told 8.10 didnt want to start
[15:50] <WIZARDSLOVAK> what about grub loader?
[15:50] <MisterFlibble> The Kubuntu installer should take care of that
[15:50] <WIZARDSLOVAK> aha
[15:50] <MisterFlibble> it's been a few years since I've dual booted
[15:50] <WIZARDSLOVAK> one more quesstion
[15:50] <wesley__> But it seems to work god 9.04, so i can life the next months with alpha
[15:51] <WIZARDSLOVAK> is kde4 in kubuntu stable?
[15:51] <WIZARDSLOVAK> i did use linux for 2 months so i am out of picture
[15:51] <MisterFlibble> Kubuntu 8.10 has Kubuntu 4.1.2, and will update to 4.1.3 when you grab your first round of patches
[15:51] <MisterFlibble> errr KDE 4.1.2
[15:51] <MisterFlibble> that is
[15:52] <wesley__> you can update to kde4.2 beta 2 if you want looks better and is stabler
[15:52] <WIZARDSLOVAK> well i remember when i installed suse kde4 was unstable
[15:52] <kashif__> how
[15:52] <MisterFlibble> there's experimental KDE 4.2 if you want it, but I don't recommend it unless you're willing to deal with bugs :)
[15:52] <kashif__> gnome is better
[15:52] <WIZARDSLOVAK> nah i want stable version of kde4,
[15:53] <Pici> wesley__: I was just saying that 9.04 is offtopic for this channel and that #ubuntu+1 is the proper place to discuss it :)
[15:53] <wesley__> kashif gnome is fooling all it users
[15:53] <MisterFlibble> 4.1.3 then, it hasn't given me problems
[15:53] <WIZARDSLOVAK> back in suse i had problems with xserver when i had kde4 , when i switched to kde3 no problems whatsoever
[15:53] <wesley__> Pici i am not really going discuss it, i just run it on that machine
[15:53] <Pici> wesley__: Roger that
[15:53] <wesley__> but i really think that gnome just release ever 6 month the same gnome
[15:54] <MisterFlibble> WIZARDSLOVAK: KDE 4.0.x was premature, 4.1.x has worked out most of the issues
[15:54] <wesley__> KDE4.2 has matured really
[15:54] <wesley__> running it on my notebook
[15:54] <WIZARDSLOVAK> MisterFlibble  thank you
[15:54] <MisterFlibble> yep
[15:55] <leif> ?? how do i get the beta
[15:55] <WIZARDSLOVAK> i have kubuntu in my virtualbox but its not the same as  reall pc
[15:55] <MisterFlibble> add the repo
[15:55] <leif> ok
[15:55] <MisterFlibble> instructions are on kubuntu.org
[15:56] <wesley__> leif you can get beta from kubuntu.org or add the kde nightly repo and install kde-nightly, that keeps up with svn, thats what i use
[15:57] <WIZARDSLOVAK> one think i dont like about all linux, its game support
[15:57] <WIZARDSLOVAK> othervise linux rulez, windows sucks
[15:57] <MisterFlibble> Where is the nightly repo?
[16:00] <seele> has anyone else had problems with plasma with 4.2 beta 2?
[16:00] <WIZARDSLOVAK> what would be  most important directories for kubunut?
[16:00] <WIZARDSLOVAK> swap , /home  , /boot???
[16:00] <sehven> my desktop cube wont work! help!
[16:07] <alonea> how do you make you trash can into a black hole (as when you delete something, it actually deletes)? I was told once upon a time, but forgot how.
[16:09] <WIZARDSLOVAK> man i would love to help you but i am kinda newbie in kubuntu
[16:10] <sehven> wizard
[16:10] <sehven> is your dcube working?
[16:10] <sehven> im also new to kubuntu
[16:10] <sehven> cant get it to work
[16:10] <WIZARDSLOVAK> well i didnt install kubuntu on pc yet
[16:11] <WIZARDSLOVAK> i have it on vbox tho
[16:11] <sehven> ohh
[16:11] <WIZARDSLOVAK> how you do dcube?
[16:11] <sehven> config it
[16:12] <sehven> jst download all compiz stuff first
[16:12] <WIZARDSLOVAK> well you need min dual core cpu for it right?
[16:12] <WIZARDSLOVAK> i have p4ht
[16:13] <sehven> nop dont think so, but not sure
[16:13] <alonea> my dcube works I think. is that where when you switch apps it spins sorta like a cube?
[16:13] <sehven> cause i used a proggy to do it in xp
[16:13] <sehven> yes alonea
[16:13] <sehven> mine doesnt
[16:13] <WIZARDSLOVAK> ooo thats dcube
[16:13] <sehven> what did you do?
[16:13] <WIZARDSLOVAK> i always wondered what it is
[16:14] <sehven> yes wiz desktop cube
[16:14] <sehven> ^_^
[16:14] <WIZARDSLOVAK> sorry noob here lolz
[16:14] <alonea> umm...nothing. actually now that I think of it, I don't think compiz is on cause I can't figure out how to get it to load on startup.
[16:14] <sehven> dont worry i jst made it up
[16:14] <sehven> hehe
[16:14] <WIZARDSLOVAK> jeez
[16:14] <sehven> im using 8.10
[16:15] <sehven> whats your hotkeys for dcube?
[16:15] <alonea> I just alt tab
[16:16] <sehven> u using kde4.1?
[16:16] <sehven> my  alt+tab shows diff animation
[16:17] <ingerashu> hi everyone
[16:18] <ingerashu> can anyone help me ?
[16:18] <ingerashu> i have a problem...
[16:19] <ingerashu> i heard about a program which lets windows to run in virtualbox and make use of linuxs' files
[16:19] <ingerashu> you see linux partitions in virtualized windows
[16:21] <WIZARDSLOVAK> you gotta install "guest additions"
[16:21] <ingerashu> that is its name?
[16:22] <WIZARDSLOVAK> when u open os in virtualbox , click device and "install guest addidiotns"
[16:23] <WIZARDSLOVAK> thats when you use VirtualBox not Vmware
[16:23] <webaska> how to delete allmost all partitions and delete grub..
[16:23] <ingerashu> i'll try it now
[16:23] <WIZARDSLOVAK> you wanna format your drive?
[16:24] <ingerashu> is there any way to resize that drive in virtulabox?
[16:24] <ingerashu> i choose it to small...
[16:24] <ingerashu> and  i dont want to reinstall windows again
[16:24] <webaska> i want to delete all partitions except 1..and from that one to load recovery system(vista-notebooks)
[16:25] <WIZARDSLOVAK> ingeranshu ,, i dont quiet understand wht you wanna do
[16:25] <ingerashu> i say it again
[16:25] <ingerashu> i installed xp with virtualbox
[16:26] <ingerashu> and i choose 3gb for the hdd
[16:26] <ingerashu> but it's too small
[16:26] <WIZARDSLOVAK> oooo
[16:26] <ingerashu> and i want to enlarge it without remaking the xp
[16:27] <ingerashu> it took 1gb with no reason
[16:27] <ingerashu> xp is about 800 mb
[16:27] <ingerashu> and shows me 1.3 gb free
[16:27] <ingerashu> instead of 2.2
[16:27] <WIZARDSLOVAK> sorry man but as far as i know VB there is no suck a action to resize disk
[16:28] <WIZARDSLOVAK> you gotta make new and reinstall xp
[16:28] <ingerashu> but if i install guest additions, cant i use the wine drive from linux? :D
[16:29] <WIZARDSLOVAK> in VB you choose shared folder
[16:29] <ingerashu> i'll try it now to see
[16:29] <WIZARDSLOVAK> thats the foler you will be able to use btv os and VB os
[16:30] <ingerashu> i have more questions about different things in ubunt :D
[16:30] <ingerashu> would you help me?
[16:31] <WIZARDSLOVAK> well i am newbie and i use kubuntu lol
[16:31] <WIZARDSLOVAK> ask and if i can help you i will , if not me i am sure someone here will
[16:31] <ingerashu> i use ubuntu for 3 days....
[16:31] <ingerashu> well...
[16:31] <ingerashu> about cairo-dock
[16:32] <ingerashu> i saw a movie on youtube
[16:32] <ingerashu> about a plugin
[16:32] <WIZARDSLOVAK> since i use linux i alway used IRC as my support and 99% it did help or solve my problem
[16:32] <ingerashu> parabolic plugin
[16:32] <ingerashu> and i want it
[16:32] <ingerashu> but i didnt find any help on google
[16:32] <ingerashu> is it a cairo theme?
[16:32] <WIZARDSLOVAK> what is that plugin for?
[16:33] <ingerashu> makes cairo-dock more cool
[16:33] <ingerashu> nice effects
[16:33] <wesley__> 4.872 FPS  is this more then 4000 or 4 fps only ?
[16:33] <WIZARDSLOVAK> check repos
[16:34] <WIZARDSLOVAK> its 872 fps better then 4000
[16:35] <alonea> how do you make you trash can into a black hole (as when you delete something, it actually deletes)? I was told once upon a time, but forgot how.
[16:35] <Bou> press shift when deleting
[16:35] <wesley__> so i habe 4.872v means 4872 fps
[16:36] <Bou> alonea: press SHIFT when deleting, it will delete without storing into trash.
[16:37] <ingerashu> what's the best configuration on virtualbox?
[16:37] <ingerashu> because when in started, my comp process slow
[16:38] <WIZARDSLOVAK> well what are  your pc specs?
[16:39] <ingerashu> 1 gbram, athlon 2800,nvidia fx 5200
[16:39] <ingerashu> quite old
[16:39] <ingerashu> but it works great so far
[16:39] <WIZARDSLOVAK> lol i got same video card
[16:39] <ingerashu> :)
[16:39] <trojkolka> hello hello anyone knows when amarok 2.01 hits the kubuntu-members-kde4 repos?
[16:39] <WIZARDSLOVAK> well if you set up too big specs for vbox it will take power from your pc
[16:40] <WIZARDSLOVAK> what i do i never put more then 45% of my actuall RAM
[16:40] <WIZARDSLOVAK> it works pretty good
[16:40] <WIZARDSLOVAK> i can watcj simpsons and still work on vbox
[16:40] <ingerashu> well i putted 500 mbram ,128 mb for video
[16:41] <WIZARDSLOVAK> ooooo so u used all your video memory
[16:41] <WIZARDSLOVAK> put 32 or 64
[16:41] <ingerashu> but it wont see ugly?
[16:42] <ingerashu> squared
[16:42] <ingerashu> ?
[16:42] <WIZARDSLOVAK> u use all your memory for vbox , there is nothing left for you os , then your pc is slow as shit
[16:42] <WIZARDSLOVAK> i never used more then 64
[16:42] <jussi01> !ohmy | WIZARDSLOVAK
[16:42] <cuznt> my poop is never slow
[16:42] <ingerashu> and you can play games like dota?
[16:43] <ingerashu> or something like that
[16:43] <ingerashu> ?
[16:43] <WIZARDSLOVAK> well u cant play games in vbox os
[16:43] <ingerashu> why not?
[16:43] <Guest43995> maybe if it was very old
[16:43] <Guest43995> with a software renderer
[16:43] <Guest43995> but it'd be slow :P
[16:43] <WIZARDSLOVAK> vbox doesnt support 3d yet
[16:44] <ingerashu> good to know
[16:44] <ingerashu> but
[16:44] <__rob__> get vmware workstation, it supports DX8
[16:44] <ingerashu> in ubuntu i cand install anything
[16:44] <WIZARDSLOVAK> only reson i did dual boot was games
[16:45] <ingerashu> so whats the difference between vmware and virtualbox?
[16:45] <__rob__> i play wow on ubuntu, c2d 2gig, 2gig ram, nvid8600gt
[16:45] <__rob__> vmware isnt free, i dunno about vbox
[16:45] <ingerashu> its free vbox
[16:45] <WIZARDSLOVAK> vbox is free
[16:45] <__rob__> that'd be the difference then
[16:46] <alonea> Bou: There is a way to make the trash basically not exist. so when you send something to the trash it goes literally nowhere. Its safer this way.
[16:46] <ingerashu> but
[16:46] <WIZARDSLOVAK> i personally prefer vbox over vmware
[16:46] <ingerashu> i can play cs in ubuntu
[16:46] <ingerashu> just with wine
[16:46] <__rob__> vmware player is free.... but its not good
[16:46] <ingerashu> but dota i cant
[16:46] <__rob__> i use wine, was about to suggest it
[16:46] <ingerashu> when i enter the game
[16:46] <__rob__> dota = warcraft 3 yeah?
[16:47] <ingerashu> appears "out of range 65kz"
[16:47] <ingerashu> yes
[16:47] <WIZARDSLOVAK> i never used wine
[16:47] <__rob__> you looke donline?
[16:47] <ingerashu> if i use it  windowed  works
[16:47] <ingerashu> but it like half the screen
[16:47] <ingerashu> there's no good like that
[16:47] <__rob__> i had to make a few tweeks to get wow to work
[16:47] <ingerashu> yes but with vmware
[16:47] <ingerashu> not wine
[16:48] <__rob__> no thats with wine
[16:48] <__rob__> and it can hit upto 80fps
[16:48] <ingerashu> what tweaks?
[16:48] <__rob__> turnin off particle effects was one, runnin in opengl was another
[16:48] <__rob__> and a few things to reduce the graphics quality
[16:49] <ingerashu> running wine in opengl?
[16:49] <ingerashu> i mean wine applications
[16:49] <__rob__> running wow with opengl in wine
[16:50] <Bou> alonea: "safer" is relative :), but yes I see what you mean. I've always use Shift though.
[16:50] <__rob__> if you can use openGL as your renderer its alot faster
[16:50] <ingerashu> well i'll search the net for that
[16:50] <ingerashu> :)
[16:50] <ingerashu> one problem solved
[16:50] <__rob__> but i think WC3 was software renderer
[16:50] <__rob__> because it worked on mac
[16:50] <ingerashu> so wont work?
[16:50] <__rob__> well its not direct x
[16:50] <__rob__> which is a good thing
[16:51] <__rob__> it's possible it is openGL
[16:51] <ingerashu> well i'll search for it till i find whats about it :P
[16:52] <ingerashu> about vbox
[16:52] <ingerashu> if i delete the fixed drive
[16:52] <__rob__> what are you running?
[16:52] <ingerashu> it will add the free space to my linux partition
[16:52] <ingerashu> right?
[16:52] <ingerashu> ubuntu 8.10
[16:52] <__rob__> in a virtual machine?
[16:52] <ingerashu> no
[16:52] <ingerashu> this is my os
[16:52] <__rob__> ahh ok
[16:53] <ingerashu> i gave up xp
[16:53] <__rob__> well install wine, then install WC3 an run it
[16:53] <ingerashu> i had recently too many problems
[16:53] <Arv3n> Hi guys.
[16:53] <__rob__> i've decided to go linux for a week
[16:53] <ingerashu> a had one virus
[16:53] <Arv3n> on kde 3.5, how can i get the taskbar to be one line only?
[16:53] <ingerashu> that i couldnt get rid of
[16:53] <jussi01> !ot
[16:53] <ingerashu> i had zonealarm firewall
[16:53] <sun_> what is irc
[16:54] <__rob__> ah, i was usin vista, probably shouldnt say it in here but i love vista, but the new kde had me curious
[16:54] <Arv3n> !google irc
[16:54] <jussi01> !irc
[16:54] <ingerashu> and if i turned it off after 15 seconds my computer was blocked
[16:54] <Arv3n> aw, man. =/
[16:54] <__rob__> i do not like XP
[16:55] <ingerashu> i like ubuntu desktop effects :)
[16:55] <ingerashu> nice job with them
[16:55] <sun_> I like KDE!
[16:55] <__rob__> i find this (kubuntu8.10, kde4.1) a bit laggy
[16:55] <ingerashu> whats the difference between kde and gnome?
[16:55] <__rob__> doesnt feel that responsive
[16:55] <__rob__> the window manager
[16:56] <__rob__> the guts are the same
[16:56] <__rob__> but the pretty bits are different
[16:56] <ingerashu> so what do you suggest to be the best os?
[16:56] <__rob__> i prefer vista, but everyones different
[16:56] <ingerashu> i mean linux os
[16:56] <ingerashu> :)
[16:57] <ingerashu> dont like at all vista
[16:57] <__rob__> ahh i dunno, kde4 is nice so far, we had a fight last night, had to hard reboot :(
[16:58] <Arv3n> so..
[16:58] <Arv3n> does anyone know how to make kde 3.5 have a one line task bar?
[16:58] <__rob__> an like i say feels sooo laggy
[16:58] <__rob__> Arv3n: you tried resizing it?
[16:58] <Arv3n> i dont want it at size 35.
[16:58] <Arv3n> thats too small, i just want a one line taskbar.
[16:58] <__rob__> i dunno then, im on 4.1
[16:58] <Arv3n> 4.1 sucks, go 4.2
[16:59] <Arv3n> you won't regret it. (H)
[16:59] <__rob__> i upgraded last night maybe i do have 4.2 :P
[16:59] <Arv3n> im not kidding, either.
[16:59] <Arv3n> you probably have 4.1.3
[16:59] <Arv3n> you gotta add the kde experimental ppa
[16:59] <__rob__> 4.2 not stable yet?
[16:59] <__rob__> ah il wait then, not be long
[16:59] <Arv3n> 4.2 beta 2 is not "officially" stable
[16:59] <Arv3n> yeah, good decision. it comes out at the end of january.
[17:00] <__rob__> yeah il just wait then
[17:00] <ubuntu_> how can I mount /dev/hda1 somewhere on Kubuntu?
[17:01] <__rob__> ubuntu_: theres some file you can do it in, i cant remember it sorry
[17:01] <sun_> how long it takes to upgrade KDE?
[17:01] <__rob__> depends on your internet conenction
[17:01] <ubuntu_> no just temporary
[17:01] <Arv3n> ubuntu_
[17:01] <DarkSmoke> oi
[17:01] <Arv3n> mkdir /mnt/directory_name
[17:02] <DarkSmoke> my firiend wants to isntall kubuntu
[17:02] <Arv3n> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/directory_name
[17:02] <DarkSmoke> but she doesn't know anything about formating and partitioning
[17:02] <Arv3n> oh, make sure its sudo at the front.
[17:02] <DarkSmoke> is there some step by step guide with pictures how to do it?
[17:02] <__rob__> if you have ubuntu you just do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:02] <DarkSmoke> no no
[17:02] <DarkSmoke> she uses windows
[17:03] <DarkSmoke> buit wants to change to kubuntu
[17:03] <__rob__> use wubi then, wubi is awesome
[17:03] <__rob__> oh she doesnt wanna dual boot?
[17:03] <DarkSmoke> no
[17:03] <DarkSmoke> she wants to change.
[17:03] <__rob__> its not hard to install, i wouldnt bother with a guide
[17:04] <__rob__> ubuntu is renowned for its ease of installation
[17:04] <DarkSmoke> oh yeah
[17:04] <__rob__> take maybe 30 mins
[17:04] <DarkSmoke> if you live in my island you'd knew how ignorant maltese people are
[17:04] <DarkSmoke> ;p
[17:04] <DarkSmoke> lol
[17:04] <__rob__> lol
[17:05] <wesley__> how can i get ext3 converter to ext4 ?
[17:05] <ubuntu_> it says that Ihave not enough permissions to read
[17:05] <__rob__> i gotta reboot after updates brb
[17:05] <__rob__> ubuntu_: use sudo?
[17:05] <WIZARDSLOVAK> ok people
[17:05] <sun_> how about KDE4
[17:05] <WIZARDSLOVAK> i am out to switch suse for kubuntu
[17:06] <khakane> good choice
[17:06] <ubuntu_> the drive is mounted i just can't open it
[17:08] <wesley__> so how can i convert ext3 to ext4 ?
[17:11] <ingerashu> still anyone here ? :D
[17:11] <ingerashu> in pidgin
[17:11] <ubuntu_> I have a mounted drive but when I click to browse its files it says something about permissions. what can i do?
[17:12] <ingerashu> you have an ignore list?
[17:12] <ingerashu> or in kopete
[17:12] <rob> back
[17:13] <Guest62776> back
[17:13] <ingerashu> hey
[17:13] <ubuntu_> I have a mounted drive but when I click to browse its files it says something about permissions. what can i do?
[17:13] <__rob__> have you mounted it with permissions for all users?
[17:13] <__rob__> how did you mount it?
[17:13] <ubuntu_> how to do that?
[17:14] <ubuntu_> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/kokos
[17:14] <__rob__> who was talkin about games in kubuntu under wine? im gettin 155fps in wow atm :P
[17:14] <ingerashu> nice
[17:14] <__rob__> maybe you could try chmod 777 on the folder you mounted it to
[17:15] <ingerashu> rob
[17:15] <ubuntu_> sudo chmod 777 <folder> ?
[17:15] <__rob__> so: sudo chmod 777 /mnt/kokos
[17:15] <__rob__> yeah i think
[17:16] <ingerashu> rob
[17:16] <__rob__> yeah?
[17:16] <ingerashu> you use pidgin or kopete?
[17:16] <ubuntu_> I get the same error
[17:16] <genii> ubuntu_: The permissions of the root of a hard drive device/partition are always made owned by root in the udev system. You need either to have mount options which change this, or else a folder there which the user you are running as owns
[17:16] <__rob__> im usin emseme atm, kopete kept droppin connection an disconnecting :S
[17:16] <ubuntu_> i am currently using kubuntu live CD
[17:17] <ingerashu> dont you know if there is an ignore list in pidgin or kopete?
[17:17] <Tm_T> ingerashu: there is in Kopete atleast that kind of functionality in some protocols
[17:17] <ingerashu> but
[17:17] <ingerashu> in kopete
[17:17] <__rob__> there is in kopete
[17:17] <ingerashu> it shows me their id's
[17:17] <ingerashu> in messenger
[17:17] <ingerashu> i had 300 at ignorelist
[17:18] <ingerashu> but now
[17:18] <ingerashu> some of they entered on me
[17:19] <ingerashu> so
[17:19] <ubuntu_> I need some help please I am in a serius situation I have to recover my files
[17:19] <Xpert> good afternoon, I have some doubts.
[17:20] <Xpert> first, i ve download by the official website mozilla firefox 3 and i m not able to install it using the bash, can anyone help me and say the procedure
[17:20] <Xpert> i looked for some foruns and there they say that would have a firefox-installer.bin but in the folder there is no installer
[17:21] <Tm_T> Xpert: why you would do it that way?
[17:21] <Xpert> there is only firefox-bin
[17:21] <__rob__> Xpert: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[17:21] <Pici> Xpert: What version of (K)ubuntu are you using?
[17:21] <Xpert> Pici: 4.1
[17:21] <Xpert> kde 4.1 kubuntu 8.10
[17:21] <Xpert> __rob__:  i ll try
[17:21] <Pici> Xpert: The firefox in the repositories is already 3.0.  You shouldn't need to install it from a bin fine.
[17:22] <Pici> s/fine/file
[17:22] <Xpert> but i would like to learn how to compile the program too
[17:22] <__rob__> ubuntu_: maybe you should look into a file called /etc/fstab google it then edit yours, an remount using it
[17:22] <Pici> Xpert: The .bin contains the binary version, it is already compiled.
[17:22] <Xpert> ok i ll try
[17:22] <Xpert> __rob__:  how i update the fstab
[17:22] <ubuntu_> I am using live CD does this matter?
[17:23] <Xpert> i ve already did this in the past, but i dont remember anymore
[17:23] <__rob__> Xpert: that wasnt to you
[17:23] <Xpert> ok
[17:23] <__rob__> Xpert: that was for ubuntu_ he's tryin to mount a drive
[17:23] <__rob__> ubuntu_: actually dude why dont you just recover the files as admin?
[17:24] <ubuntu_> how?
[17:24] <__rob__> what os you using?
[17:24] <__rob__> ubuntu?
[17:25] <ubuntu_> kubuntu
[17:25] <__rob__> do sudo dolphin
[17:26] <ingerashu> can anyone help me with that messenger question?
[17:26] <ingerashu> pls
[17:26] <Xpert> it runned __rob__ ty
[17:26] <__rob__> ingerashu: sorry man i ditched kopete :P
[17:26] <ubuntu_> command not found
[17:26] <__rob__> Xpert: see if you can get into the folder now
[17:26] <Xpert> i saw in foruns the name of the package as mozilla-firefox-locale-pt-br
[17:26] <ingerashu> it's a problem for me
[17:27] <Xpert> did it changed of name ?
[17:27] <ingerashu> in kopete i see all the id's
[17:27] <Xpert> cuz my apt-get search doesnt run
[17:27] <Xpert> i dont know why
[17:27] <Xpert> __rob__: how i do this ?
[17:27] <__rob__> Xpert: i couldnt serch either :S
[17:27] <ingerashu> of those that were in my ingore list on messenger
[17:27] <Xpert> __rob__:  i m using a site to do this
[17:27] <__rob__> ubuntu_: sudo dolphin?
[17:27] <Xpert> it searchs for names of packages i can post for u if u want
[17:27] <__rob__> nah its k
[17:28] <Xpert> ok
[17:28] <__rob__> i normally use the apt package manager
[17:28] <__rob__> but commandline is easier in irc :D
[17:28] <Xpert> another doubt
[17:28] <ubuntu_> like I said I am using live CD dolphin may not be available
[17:28] <Xpert> how can i create a fast inicialization pannel at K side
[17:29] <Xpert> like windows
[17:29] <Xpert> to put my favorites prograns to open fastly
[17:29] <Xpert> into the main pannel
[17:29] <__rob__> ubuntu_: what file manager is on it?
[17:29] <__rob__> Xpert: what you runnin kde4.1?
[17:29] <Xpert> yes
[17:29] <ingerashu> seems the google is man's best friend
[17:29] <ubuntu_> konqueor (something like that)
[17:30] <__rob__> Xpert: in the K menu you can pin stuff to the favourites
[17:30] <ubuntu_> *konqueror
[17:30] <__rob__> ubuntu_: then sudo konqueror
[17:30] <__rob__> i hate konqueror
[17:31] <Xpert> __rob__:  ok ill try
[17:31] <__rob__> Xpert: thast what i've done, its nice an tidy
[17:31] <genii> __rob__: Do not suggest to people to run gui apps like konqueror with sudo instead of kdesu/kdesudo. This makes it impossible for them afterwards to run it as their normal user
[17:31] <wesley__> very helpfull arent they on #ubuntu i asked about ext4 do get shouted that ext4 isnt stable and stuff
[17:32] <ubuntu_> well I finally can browse to /mnt/kokos/ but I see no files or folders whats wrong?
[17:32] <fragadELic> what's the "best" irc linux client to use?
[17:32] <__rob__> genii: hes booting from a live cd, he only wants to recover some files
[17:32] <genii> Xpert: Use kdesu or kdesudo and NOT sudo
[17:32] <wesley__> fragadELic i say konversation
[17:32] <fragadELic> ty
[17:33] <genii> __rob__: Regardless, please use correct syntax
[17:33] <fragadELic> any1 know how to use konversation with tor (torify)? or have some links
[17:33] <ubuntu_> is it because is ntfs?
[17:34] <__rob__> genii: i didnt know about kdesu, im just trying to help the guy
[17:34] <genii> __rob__: I understand :) It's just that others may also try this and then find the app unusable afterwards, causing unneccesary problems.
[17:35] <Xpert> is there any program like emule in linux
[17:35] <Xpert> whats the name of the package
[17:35] <Xpert> ?
[17:35] <__rob__> ktorrent
[17:35] <Xpert> what is the best ?
[17:35] <Pici> !p2p | Xpert
[17:35] <__rob__> i never used any under linux
[17:35] <Xpert> what is the best package
[17:36] <Xpert> ktorrent for torrent files
[17:36] <Pici> Thats up to you to find out.
[17:36]  * jpedroza likes ktorrent
[17:36] <Xpert> i need a p2p
[17:36] <Pici> Xpert: See ubottu's message above.
[17:37] <__rob__> i think thats one of the problems with open source, the sheer volume of stuff to try out
[17:38] <Xpert> which is the package of thunderbird mozilla
[17:38] <Xpert> ?
[17:38] <Xpert> the last version
[17:38] <__rob__> Xpert: you used the apt package manager?
[17:38] <__rob__> you can search in it
[17:39] <__rob__> an install whatever you want
[17:39] <Xpert> __rob__:  u mean adept ?
[17:39] <__rob__> yes :P
[17:39] <Xpert> where i go to see the package manager ?
[17:39] <Xpert> i dont like adept
[17:39] <__rob__> i never click now, i just type in what i want in the k menu
[17:43] <Xpert> what do u recommend me
[17:43] <Xpert> amule or xmule ?
[17:45] <ubuntu_> well I finally can browse to /mnt/kokos/ but I see no files or folders whats wrong? is it because is ntfs fs?
[17:47] <khakane> ntfs works great
[17:47] <khakane> ubuntu_: does that drive show up in df?
[17:50] <ikonia> wesley__: you didn't get shouted at
[17:50] <ikonia> wesley__: you got advised that if you wish to do it you should to it on your own as the situation is not supported as the tools you want to use are still in development
[17:51] <ikonia> wesley__: you then got pointed to the development channel of #ubuntu+1 - which you didn't join
[17:51] <ikonia> wesley__: so please don't say things that didn't happen
[17:51] <starenka> hello. any idea how to run shell script on bad login attempts (either gui or cli)
[17:56] <wesley__> I was not talking about you ikonia but Gnea
[17:58] <khakane> wesley__: just go to a coffee shop, smoke some weed, come back and try again
[17:58] <khakane> that's what i would do anyways..
[17:58] <wesley__> i dont use drugs
[17:58] <khakane> weed aint no drug ;)
[17:58] <jussi01> !o4o
[17:58] <wesley__> it it , a light drugs
[17:58] <genii> jussi01: Beat me to it...
[17:59] <khakane> zzzz
[17:59] <kilani> hi i need to install my printer but it isnt workind
[17:59] <kilani> can someone help me
[17:59] <wesley__> hehe mini case is closed, is it save to remove fans ?
[18:00] <wesley__> those fans make more sound then the hd
[18:00] <genii> kilani: What printer make/model, and how does it connect ? (usb/serial/parallel/ network)
[18:00] <khakane> if its a mini case i wouldnt go unplugging fans
[18:00] <kilani> genii: it is connected through usb
[18:01] <kilani> hp officejet5510
[18:01] <wesley__> i did look if there where no cables in the fans, but i seems the vga on the intergrated chip makes some sound, not so much as a normall pc ofcourse
[18:01] <khakane> wesley__: gpu fan may be going out
[18:03] <genii> kilani: Do you have package called   hplip   installed?
[18:04] <kilani> genii: yes it is installed
[18:05] <wesley__> khakane, but is that save ?
[18:05] <khakane> wesley__: depends on how "good" the card is, if its an older card, sometimes you can get away with heatsink only no fan
[18:05] <khakane> but i would look at replacing the fan or the card, but of course, check to make sure thats the problem first
[18:05] <khakane> stick your thumb on the fan, see if the noise goes away (while its running of course)
[18:05] <wesley__> the noiits a intel 945 orso
[18:06] <genii> kilani: When you added a printer, you got choice of printers and did not specifically see 5510 there?
[18:06] <wesley__> good idea i going see to that, i have a rear fan to ( if it would get to hot then a pc shutdown automatic ?
[18:07] <ubuntu__> jeez i just destroyed my grub loader
[18:07] <ubuntu__> how can i reinstall it?
[18:07] <ubuntu__> where should i install it?
[18:08] <genii> !grub | ubuntu__
[18:09] <kilani> genii: problem is that i cannot find it at all when it is connected
[18:09] <ubuntu__> i had xp dual with suse and wanted to switch to kubuntu/xp
[18:09] <ubuntu__> now i cant boot none
[18:09] <ubuntu__> i have live cd and i need to install grup
[18:10] <ubuntu__> apt-get install grub ??
[18:10] <wesley__> khakane i dont know if they sound is less more when stopping him, because you hear the hd then
[18:11] <genii> ubuntu__:See the first link in the message from ubottu
[18:11] <ubuntu__> when i type "apt-get install grub" i get answer "grub is already newest version"
[18:11] <ubuntu__> so grub is installed
[18:13] <ubuntu__> when i click to change grub setting i get "/boot/grub/menu/1st does not exist"
[18:13] <Xpert> hi
[18:13] <Xpert> i m back
[18:14] <Xpert> i m with a problem with amule
[18:14] <Xpert> i m trying to download xmule but it dont finds the package
[18:15] <Pici> Xpert: xmule does not appar to be in the repositories.
[18:16] <Xpert> ok Pici
[18:18] <eagles0513875> i need some help with smbfs im trying to mount a remote windows partition on linux and i wrote a script when i did it last but now for some reason its not working i have smbfs installed already
[18:19] <eagles0513875> is there something wrong with this sudo smbmount //<IP_ADDRESS>/users /mnt/WindowsShare -o username=jonathan,password=623xvnqh48,rw
[18:19] <eagles0513875> !smbfs
[18:19] <eagles0513875> !info smbfs
[18:20] <eagles0513875> can anyone help me
[18:21] <eagles0513875> nm its working
[18:22] <Xpert> what are the best players of videos ?
[18:22] <Xpert> like windows media player of bsplayer for windows
[18:22] <eagles0513875> !multimedia
[18:23] <eagles0513875> Xpert wrong thing
[18:23] <Xpert> ?
[18:23] <eagles0513875> wait see the 2nd link
[18:23] <eagles0513875> where it says multimedia applications above
[18:28] <jussi01> !players | Xpert
[18:30] <Xpert> jussi01 xmms2 is like winamp ?
[18:30] <Xpert> for windows
[18:30] <Xpert> ?
[18:30] <jussi01> kinda
[18:30] <jussi01> havent really used it much
[18:30] <Xpert> which is the exactly name of the package
[18:30] <Xpert> i need it
[18:30] <Xpert> i only use apt-get install
[18:30] <jussi01> !info xmms2
[18:31] <Pici> Xpert: audacious is the player most like winamp on Ubuntu
[18:31] <Tm_T> and Noatun most like it in KDE
[18:33] <b0nn> hrm, how do I find my cdrom and mount it?
[18:33] <zwerg> moun /dev/crom /mnt/cdrom
[18:33] <zwerg> *mount
[18:33] <zwerg> or
[18:34] <zwerg> mount /dev/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom0
[18:34] <b0nn> Itasks for a fs type
[18:34] <b0nn> (cdrom1)
[18:37] <b0nn> When I specify vfat as the type I get:
[18:37] <b0nn> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[18:37] <b0nn> mount: /dev/scd0: can't read superblock
[18:43] <Xpert> i have a problem
[18:43] <Xpert> ive installed xmms2 but it doesnt apper in multimedia button ?
[18:43] <Black> Hello
[18:43] <Xpert> xmms
[18:43] <Black> !!!!
[18:44] <Xpert> any solution ?
[18:44] <Xpert> ?
[18:44] <wesley__> look i can put that noisy fan off the temperture keep now around 44
[18:48] <Xpert> anyone can solve my problem ??????
[18:53] <Xpert> ??????????????????
[18:53] <Xpert> no helpers on ?
[18:53] <wesley__> bartek van Belgie ?
[18:54] <Tm_T> !helpme | Xpert
[18:54] <bartek> no
[18:55] <Xpert> Tm_T:  i need to install thunderbird
[18:55] <alisson> alguem brasileiro??
[18:55] <Xpert> eu sou
[18:55] <Xpert> alisson:
[18:55] <Xpert> preciso instalar o thunderbird
[18:55] <Xpert> qual o nome do pacote
[18:55] <alisson> qual tus distro
[18:55] <Tm_T> !br | alisson
[18:56] <Xpert> ubottu:  is there #kubuntu-br ?
[18:56] <alisson> calma
[18:56] <alisson> ainda to apanhando aki
[18:56] <Xpert> boa tarde
[18:56] <Tm_T> Xpert: alisson: please use english here
[18:56] <alisson> qual o linux para thunderbird
[18:57] <Xpert> ok
[18:57] <Xpert> kubuntu8.10
[18:57] <Tm_T> !thunderbird | Xpert
[18:57] <Tm_T> brrrh
[19:01] <Xpert> Tm_T:  ok i ve installed now
[19:01] <Xpert> ty
[19:03] <dwidmann_laptop> erm, what's the appropriate way to run the badblocks command
[19:03] <javitox> hi
[19:03] <javitox> Help
[19:03] <dwidmann_laptop> I'm hoping all of this output is just due to user error, lest I'm in trouble
[19:04] <javitox> no speak englesh
[19:04] <javitox> help
[19:04] <javitox> Español
[19:05] <bartek> sprichts du deutsh?
[19:06] <dwidmann_laptop> !es
[19:06] <javitox> gracias
[19:06] <bartek> danke
[19:11] <ralpho_>  Gui lah hui te ha
[19:12] <ralpho_> 谢谢
[19:12] <alisson> alguem sabe como faço pro soundkonverter converter pra MP3
[19:17] <Polynomial-C> Hello. I'm trying to help a friend fixing a somehow broken update from kubuntu-8.04 to kubuntu-8.10 and am now stuck with the kernel. It seems like all installed packages were updated to the versions from 8.10 but theinstalled kernel image is still the one from 8.04 and I cannot figure out which package I have to install to get the new default kernel from 8.10.
[19:18] <genii> b0nn: cdroms do not have a vfat filesystem. Usually they are iso9660 or udf
[19:19] <genii> Polynomial-C: Did do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade                           ? the dist-upgrade is what causes the kernel versions to increment
[19:19] <Xpert> how do I install xmms2 ? and run it
[19:19] <Xpert> its already installed but it doesnt appear in the k menu
[19:19] <Xpert> multimedia menu
[19:19] <Xpert> i tryed alt-f2 xmms2 but didnt run
[19:20] <Polynomial-C> genii, no, I did "apt-get update" but not "apt-get dist-upgrade". I will try that now.
[19:24] <genii> Xpert: If in Konsole you type:  xmms2 --help               does it tell you the command opetions, or say "file not found" or so ?
[19:26] <genii> bartek: deutsche:  /join #kubuntu-de
[19:29] <XVampireX> You people know,  KDE 4.2 still got tons of bugs :D
[19:29] <XVampireX> but it's getting better
[19:31] <Polynomial-C> XVampireX, it was the same with kde-3 until kde-3.4
[19:31] <filip__> Unpacking replacement smbclient ...
[19:31] <filip__> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/smbclient_2%3a3.2.3-1ubuntu3.4_i386.deb (--unpack):
[19:31] <filip__>  corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive
[19:31] <filip__> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[19:31] <filip__> Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:32] <filip__>  /var/cache/apt/archives/smbclient_2%3a3.2.3-1ubuntu3.4_i386.deb
[19:32] <filip__> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[19:32] <filip__> what to do?
[19:34] <genii> filip__: Please don't paste more thann a couple lines at a time into this channel. Use pastebin in this case
[19:34] <genii> !paste | filip__
[19:34] <filip__> ok
[19:34] <filip__> sorry
[19:34] <filip__> can you help me?
[19:34] <genii> filip__: At any rate. Delete the corrupted file in the cache, then try install again
[19:35] <genii> filip__: eg:   sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/smbclient*
[19:36] <filip__> genii: thank you very much
[19:36] <filip__> that help
[19:36] <filip__> bye
[19:36] <genii> filip__: You're welcome
[19:37] <XVampireX> Polynomial-C: Yeah, but the bugs in KDE 4 right now... lets just say that it could be called beta quality release (Not many crashes just that certain things like missing icons... and a bug with krunner) are not getting fixed it seems in KDE 4.2
[19:38] <Polynomial-C> XVampireX, I didn't test anything later than 4.0.5 but that was the worst kde-release I ever gave a try.
[19:39] <Polynomial-C> genii, "apt-get dist-upgrade" solved every remaining problem. Thank you very much :)
[19:41] <genii> Polynomial-C: You're welcome
[19:47] <OuZo> hi, apt-get update is not obaying my /etc/apt/source.list
[19:47] <OuZo> i changed the server to download from & it still uses the old one
[19:47] <XVampireX> Explain
[19:48] <XVampireX> by the way it's /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:48] <XVampireX> also make sure you change it via root
[19:49] <OuZo> $ less /etc/apt/source.list | tail -n 3
[19:49] <OuZo> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security universe
[19:49] <OuZo> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security multiverse
[19:49] <OuZo> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security multiverse
[19:50] <OuZo> $ sudo apt-get update
[19:50] <OuZo> Err http://<IP_ADDRESS> intrepid Release.gpg
[19:50] <OuZo>   Could not connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:3142 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (113 No route to host)
[19:50] <OuZo> Err http://<IP_ADDRESS> intrepid/main Translation-en_ZA
[19:50] <OuZo>   Could not connect to <IP_ADDRESS>:3142 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (113 No route to host)
[19:50] <OuZo> 0% [Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> (<IP_ADDRESS>)]^C
[19:50] <OuZo> so its trying to connect to an internal apt-cacher server, but that server's IP has changed... so i made it apt point to the default server
[19:51] <OuZo> but it still tries to use the old one
[19:52] <wallabee> Having trouble using a new usb wireless mouse. Any help appreciated.  This is what settings tell me:  http://www.imagehosting.com/host.php
[19:53] <JannoTT> My kubuntu install hangs on 90% at doing some usb stuff. When i googled it it lookd like some very old bug. Dating back to 7.04. When i started live cd without splash screen it complaind about me not using 8139too driver and not able to enumerate usb port 6 or something like that.
[19:54] <jayhunold> !paste | OuZo
[19:54] <wallabee> sorry disreguard that last link.. here's what i get:  http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/2126/20412350ic4.png
[19:55] <genii> OuZo: : Please don't paste more thann a couple lines at a time into this channel. Use pastebin in this case
[19:55] <jayhunold> OuZo:  less /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:56] <genii> OuZo: If you are using some caching server which is not transparent, edit your /etc/environment   or ~/.bashrc to reflect this
[19:56] <blobbylol> hi, i can't start kde anymore, when i enter my login, that does not start kde but that comes back to the login screen. If i type startkde in the terminal, i have $DISPLAY not set or cannot connect to X server ; i've seen that my hd was full 0 Ko free, so i've freed 2 Go but kde still does not start
[19:57] <OuZo> my enviroment looks standard
[19:57] <OuZo> $ cat /etc/environment
[19:57] <OuZo> PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games"
[19:58] <wallabee> blobbylol: i had the smae problem you may need to get rid of more than that for it to start
[19:59] <blobbylol> wallabee: before i only had 1 Go free and that worked
[19:59] <wallabee> blobbulol: i was able to log in once but it ran updates and when i logged back in it was back to not able to login
[19:59] <genii> OuZo: You want it to use an internal proxy, or to bypass the proxy and go direct to the url?
[20:00] <OuZo> genii: either, i just want to install software for now
[20:00] <OuZo> lets say the main external repo
[20:00] <OuZo> here is my list http://paste.ubuntu.com/101834/
[20:00] <genii> OuZo: The proxy it was using previously... squid or so?
[20:00] <OuZo> apt-cacher
[20:00] <blobbylol> wallabee: what did you do ?
[20:01] <genii> OuZo: OK
[20:01] <OuZo> but its bypassing all proxies now
[20:01] <OuZo> $ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01proxy
[20:01] <OuZo> Acquire::http::Proxy "http://";
[20:02] <wallabee> blobbylol:  i'd recommend getting rid of some unused packages via aptitude and rm'ing a little more data and see if that helps.. although i have an 80gb hd and it somehow got filled up even though i only had a couple data filesa nd a couple cd's worth of music so if anyone knows how that can fill your hd up id like to know..but i had to end up reinstalling (bummer i know)
[20:02] <genii> OuZo: If thats the only line in the apt.conf, just rm the file. Also you could uninstall apt-cacher
[20:02] <blobbylol> wallabee: i don't think i have to free more than 2 Go
[20:03] <wallabee> blobbylol: wish i could be more of a help but just sharing my experience
[20:03] <genii> OuZo: (or at least stop it's service)
[20:04] <blobbylol> wallabee: ok thanks
[20:04] <OuZo> the apt-cacher runs on the server... the clients just go to a url as told...
[20:04] <OuZo> there is no service to stop on clients
[20:04] <OuZo> as far as i know
[20:05] <OuZo> but its bypassing all proxies anyway
[20:05] <SilverRook> can anyone help me with my install of 8.10 it keeps giving me the busybox prompt when i try and boot from livecd
[20:05] <OuZo> & still looking for a server...
[20:05] <OuZo> which doesnt make sence to me
[20:05] <OuZo> its completely ignoring the sources.list
[20:05] <wallabee> Having trouble using a new usb wireless mouse. Any help appreciated.  This is what settings tell me: http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/2126/20412350ic4.png
[20:06] <genii> OuZo: The client likely gets it's info from the server by dhcp or so.
[20:07] <OuZo> this client is a laptop with a direct internet connection...
[20:07] <genii> OuZo: Try then: sudo dhclient -r eth0 (or whatever adapter name)           sudo dhclient eth0            and then see if ifconfig shows proper connection info
[20:09] <OuZo> $ ifconfig eth1 | head -n 2 | tail -n 1
[20:09] <OuZo>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[20:09] <SilverRook> hi
[20:09] <SilverRook> cansomeone help me pls
[20:10] <SilverRook> when installing 8.10 i get busy box - and when i install in text only mode i get your cd is not in the drive
[20:11] <genii> OuZo: OK, that looks good. Maybe there are additional files in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d   directory or so, which has the proxy specified
[20:12] <OuZo> nope, iv looked into all of them & they are harmles & have nothing to do with proxies :(
[20:12] <Cymew> Have someone managed to install the flash10 beta on AMD64?
[20:12] <genii> SilverRook: This happens when the installer cannot find a driver for the chipset controlling the cdrom. Like some sata controllers. find your chipset and modprobe the driver, or try set bios to have sata drives in "compatible" mode, or try install from external usb cd unit (which installer knows about by default)
[20:13] <genii> OuZo: This one is a puzzler then
[20:13] <SilverRook> genii i also get graphics crash when i try and install on my other system
[20:13] <SilverRook> but 8.04 worked
[20:14] <OuZo> it sure is genii, i was reading man apt for a what to manually specify servers to go to... but doesnt seam like that is an option
[20:14] <SilverRook> both intel and AMD64 versions crash
[20:14] <genii> SilverRook: Graphics issues are not my strong area. But as for the cd not being found, see my above explanation and possible solutions to try
[20:14] <SilverRook> ok thanks for that
[20:15] <genii> OuZo: That is set in the apt.conf file usually (or by manually adding the proxy as a url in the sources.list deb lines)
[20:15] <Cymew> Or for that matter any 64 bit flash at all? Is it still 32 bit Firefox & plugins that's the solution?
[20:15] <genii> OuZo: Global proxies are usually set in the conf file of the daemon doing the caching (quid, etc)
[20:15] <wallabee>  TDYFUIH
[20:15] <wallabee> ]'
[20:15] <wallabee> ?
[20:15] <wesley__> SilverRook intel works great, only low fps but does that say something ?
[20:15] <OuZo> yeah, but everything is now set to what the original was
[20:16] <genii> OuZo: Also you can set system-wide proxy by way of environment, but this has not been done in your case
[20:16] <SilverRook> wesley__ it does the normal kubuntu load bar gets all the way to the end and then i get diagonal scrolled graphics crash
[20:16] <NicEXE> I am in a complicate situation: I have a non-bootable-virtual-hdd (propably because its corrupted) and I want to recover some files. I am currently using Kubuntu live cd on VirtualBox. I mounted my virtual HDD on /mnt/kokos but when I browse to /mnt/kokos no files or folders are appearing. Is it because it's NTFS? (I am using Kubuntu 32 live CD 7.04 on virtual box)
[20:16] <SilverRook> i have 8.04 on my hdd at the min on a dual boot and that boots fine
[20:16] <OuZo> iv changed lots of things, im going to reboot & get back to you genii, thanks for the help thou
[20:17] <genii> OuZo: You're welcome. If you discover whats the source, please enlighten us :)
[20:17] <wallabee> Having trouble using a new usb wireless mouse. Any help appreciated.  This is what settings tell me: http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/2126/20412350ic4.png
[20:18] <wesley__> SilverRook there are some bugs related to performance issues, but i really dont know what a intel vga is supposed to get, but i know aero runs on it
[20:18] <SilverRook> wesley__ yeh i have had it running on a friends dell machine but i get it home and it wont run on mine
[20:18] <SilverRook> i have tried both intel and AMD64
[20:19] <SilverRook> same error on both discs
[20:19] <SilverRook> and the other pc i have.. the dvd drive isnt supported by the sounds of it
[20:19] <SilverRook> grrrr
[20:19] <NicEXE> I am in a complicate situation: I have a non-bootable-virtual-hdd (propably because its corrupted) and I want to recover some files. I am currently using Kubuntu live cd on VirtualBox. I mounted my virtual HDD on /mnt/kokos but when I browse to /mnt/kokos no files or folders are appearing. Is it because it's NTFS? (I am using Kubuntu 32 live CD 7.04 on virtual box)
[20:19] <wesley__> Do you get on the desktop? Because i would care if the loadbar is messed up in the live cd
[20:19] <genii> NicEXE: Have you tried asking your question in the #vbox channel yet?
[20:20] <SilverRook> no it fails just as its about to load desktop from the live cd
[20:20] <Cymew> none? Shit. Time to go the long way and reinstall everything related to Firefox in 32 bit versions then I guess.
[20:20] <NicEXE> genii: I'll do it now
[20:20] <genii> SilverRook: You could try appending:  vga         to the kernel load line of the cd
[20:20] <SilverRook> is that the same as pressing F4 and telling it to use safe gfx mode ?
[20:21] <SilverRook> cuz i have done that
[20:21] <genii> Cymew: Please, try to keep the channel family friendly and be careful of bad language :)
[20:22] <SilverRook> would it help if i uploaded a video of the machine loading ?
[20:22] <genii> Bah
[20:22] <vlt> NicEXE: What does `fdisk -l /dev/your/virtual/hdd` tell you?
[20:22] <genii> SilverRook: Yes, pretty much the same result. A video of it loading won't be too enlightening, I wouldn't bother
[20:22] <SilverRook> lol
[20:23] <SilverRook> ok
[20:23] <SilverRook> grrrr
[20:23] <wesley__> genii the intel atom 330 works really good
[20:23] <SilverRook> all i wanna do is install a kde4 portable desktop onto my new shiny sandisk cruzer 16gb :D
[20:23] <NicEXE> Cannot open /dev/hda1
[20:24] <wesley__> SilverRook searh on live usb in adept orso
[20:25] <SilverRook> i'm thinking of booting the live cd on this one (the one i have xp running on) and installling in text mode
[20:26] <wesley__> You know what i did, i just picked the unstable and gues what worked for me
[20:27] <SilverRook> does kubuntu wqith kde4 support sli ? - do you think that could be causing the gfx probs ?
[20:27] <wesley__> my new pc is installed via usb and i did put 9.04 on it
[20:27] <wesley__> sli ?
[20:28] <SilverRook> yeh i have opteron 180 (overclocked) on abit an8sli fatal1ty board with 2x nvidia 6800 ultras running in sli
[20:29] <SilverRook> i'm gonna pop the hood and remove one of the cards and see if that fixes it
[20:31] <Danu> Hello i have a strange problem : must of my videos are rmvb, and SMPlayer (Mplayer too) is the only player that play them correctly adn it has work great since time ago, but today i try to open one video and has no sound at all
[20:32] <Danu> and the weirdest is that i try to open the same one in gnome and the sound work :S
[20:34] <wallabee> Having trouble using a new usb wireless mouse. Any help appreciated. I've heard of a program called lomoco but dont know much about it. This is what settings tell me: http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/2126/20412350ic4.png
[20:36] <genii> Away for a bit
[20:39] <wizardslovak> my dragon player doesnt play .avi
[20:39] <wizardslovak> what should i do?
[20:40] <Decadence> ello
[20:40] <Decadence> hnmmmm quiet
[20:41] <nicola> qualcuno sa dirmi come vedere un dvd con kaffeina?
[20:42] <wesley__> https://launchpad.net/~velroy1
[20:42] <Tm_T> wesley__: yes?
[20:42] <wesley__> just my lauchpad account, ive put a mug on it
[20:43] <Tm_T> ok
[20:43] <Tm_T> !ot | wesley__
[20:43] <Tm_T> (;)
[20:43] <wizardslovak> i just falled in love with kubuntu
[20:43] <wizardslovak> i wont use suse ever again
[20:43] <wesley__> dont be so harse, it links to lauchpadf
[20:43] <k4k4> wizardslovak: lol
[20:43] <Tm_T> wesley__: doesn't matter (:
[20:44] <wizardslovak> apt-get <---best command ever
[20:44] <wizardslovak> btw is there a side with basica kubuntu commands? something day-to-day use
[20:44] <Tm_T> !commandline | wizardslovak
[20:44] <Tm_T> bah
[20:44] <Tm_T> !bash
[20:44] <Tm_T> wizardslovak: ^
[20:46] <wizardslovak> Tm_T: thank you
[20:46] <wizardslovak> one more think
[20:46] <wizardslovak> how can i add codecs for kaffeine?
[20:46] <Tm_T> !mp3 | wizardslovak
[20:46] <Tm_T> wizardslovak: also, kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[20:48] <wizardslovak> as i said apt-get <---best tool ever
[20:48] <Tm_T> wizardslovak: try wajig
[20:48] <wizardslovak> whats "wajig"?
[20:49] <zer0o> hi guys kopete doesn't send any file, i do all the steps but no window appears, neither to me nor to the contact i want to send the file to... ???
[20:49] <wizardslovak> how do you guys use dcube?
[20:49] <ubuntu_> hi all
[20:49] <wizardslovak> what are keyboard shortcuts?
[20:51] <wizardslovak> command to update system?
[20:51] <ubuntu_> fuckers what's up??
[20:51] <jussi01> !ohmy | ubuntu_
[20:51] <ubuntu_> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  hoe
[20:54] <wizardslovak> apt-get upgrade ??
[20:55] <wesley__> kids ? that bot is crazy kinds dont come here
[20:55] <wizardslovak> lol
[20:55] <wizardslovak> kids?
[20:55] <wizardslovak> wonder where
[20:55] <wesley__> yeah me to
[20:55] <wizardslovak> kids are playing with XP machiens
[20:55] <wesley__> Not all
[20:56] <jpedroza> wizardslovak: Mine play with Kubuntu
[20:56] <jpedroza> wizardslovak: and edubuntu
[20:56] <wizardslovak> nice , too bad i dont have kids yet
[20:56] <wesley__> I make deals with my little brother that he may use my pc if he lets him download
[20:56] <wizardslovak> lol my brother always b*tches when his comp is broken, like its my fault
[20:57] <wizardslovak> i never used his PC
[20:57] <zer0o> hi guys kopete and pidgin don't send any file, i do all the steps but no window appears, neither to me nor to the contact i want to send the file to... ???
[21:00] <wesley__> wizardslovak, my girlfriend blames me for breaking her mac
[21:01] <wesley__> i said, a mac cant be broken
[21:01] <wizardslovak> hahah
[21:01] <wesley__> going put this notebook off
[21:01] <wesley__> go on my new pc
[21:02] <wesley__> man what make it noise that mini itx
[21:03] <wizardslovak> where in kubuntu can i find compizconfig??
[21:05] <christaker> is there any way to make kde 4 start menu transparent???
[21:08] <wesley> i am back, and i need help, i wanna control my fan speed, it rocks skyhigh now
[21:11] <XenThraL> Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 177.80, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 177.82.  Please make
[21:11] <XenThraL> sure that the kernel module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[21:11] <XenThraL> NVIDIA: Direct rendering failed; attempting indirect rendering
[21:11] <XenThraL> anyone know how I can fix that?
[21:12] <wallabee> I need help with a wireless mouse.  System Settings---->Keyboard & Mouse---->Mouse-->Mouse Receiver      :    You have a Logitech mouse connected, and libusb was found at compile time, but it was not possible to access this mouse.  This is probably caused by a  permissions problem - you should consult the maual on how to fix this.
[21:12] <wallabee> what manual is the question?
[21:14] <ingerashu> does anyone know where to download cairo-dock themes?
[21:15] <ingerashu> i cant find anything
[21:17] <csc_> hello
[21:17] <csc_> is there anyone running a live usb with persistence?
[21:20] <wesley> yes you can make that easy with special tools
[21:21] <csc_> wesley, are you running it?
[21:21] <csc_> wesley, can you give me the output "of mount | grep casper" please ?
[21:22] <wesley> huh no i am not using it right now
[21:29] <nicola_> mi date il server in italiano
[21:32] <nicola_> esistono le java per kubuntu
[21:33] <jussi01> !it
[21:38] <wamyc> salut
[21:43] <Copelia> !fr
[21:51] <Pentarex1> Hello I have one question is the commands on ubuntu are the same in Kubuntu (e.x. sudo apt-get install luvcview)
[21:51] <Pentarex1> ?
[21:52] <kriox> hi ..
[21:53] <kriox> have someone experience whiyh recostructor on kubuntu 8.04?
[21:55] <rickest> Pentarex1: yes
[21:55] <Pentarex1> rickest: 10nx
[21:56] <andypls1> what's the proper irc channel to talk about internet domain names?
[22:00] <sourcemaker> Is it possible to define the alignment of the panel icons? When I position a extra panel on the left screen (top to bottom) the icons are aligned horizontal... instead of vertical
[22:06] <NmLinuz> hello. where is stored my kde themes? In which directory?
[22:11] <Aison> hmm, bluetooth is not working at all here ;)
[22:11] <Aison> :(
[22:11] <Aison> My phone can't even find my PC
[22:12] <Aison> but I know that my bluetooth stick works with linux, it worked on a gentoo machine
[22:14] <Aison> Broadcom Corp. A-Link BlueUsbA2 Bluetooth
[22:14] <casa> ciao
[22:14] <casa> !list
[22:15] <Aison> sudo hcitool scan  works
[22:15] <Aison> I find my phone, but kbluetooth seems to suck on new intrepid
[22:21] <Aison> when I install some dev packages with apt-get build-dep
[22:21] <Aison> they are removed allways with apt-get autoremove
[22:21] <Aison> why?
[22:30] <jeff_> if anyone can help me turn off desktop effects in KDE it would be greatly appreciated
[22:30] <JontheEchidna> jeff_: in Intrepid?
[22:30] <jeff_> i have tried out a few ways that people have suggested on forums but they havent been any hhelp
[22:30] <jeff_> ya
[22:31] <JontheEchidna> you've tried turning it off in system settings?
[22:31] <haegrid> hi guys!
[22:31] <jeff_> i cant see anything when KDE loads, so i cant change it that way
[22:31] <JontheEchidna> oh
[22:31] <JontheEchidna> open up ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[22:31] <jeff_> i have tried to reset it through the terminal but all the instructions to do so seem to be out of date
[22:32] <JontheEchidna> and then change compositing=true to compositing=false
[22:32] <jeff_> you see thats the problem...thats not there
[22:32] <JontheEchidna> oh, nevermind
[22:32] <JontheEchidna> in the compositing there should be "enabled=true"
[22:32] <JontheEchidna> change that to "enabled=false"
[22:32] <jeff_> give one second to get there ill need to reboot
[22:33] <jeff_> but if memory serves me ther isnt anything like that in there for me
[22:33] <JontheEchidna> look for [Compositing]
[22:33] <JontheEchidna> in that section there should be "enabled=true"
[22:34] <jeff_> i have [$version] [desktop] [plugins] and [windows] but no [compositing]
[22:35] <glkasleg> what is repository for oo3.0?
[22:35] <jeff_> under plugins it reads kwin4_effects_coverswitchEnables=false ...which used to read true before i changed it but it didnt seem to change anything
[22:36] <JontheEchidna> then compositing shouldn't be enabled
[22:37] <JontheEchidna> does anything appear if you press alt + f2?
[22:37] <JontheEchidna> (when you're in KDE)
[22:37] <jeff_> one second ill try
[22:38] <JontheEchidna> it's entirely possible that plasma is crashing when you log in
[22:39] <glkasleg> does anybody know if there is a repository for openoffice.org 3.0 in kubuntu hardy?
[22:40] <jeff_> alt f2 turns bring up a white boy in the middle of the screen, but all i have is a blank screen with a blank white box in the middle of it
[22:40] <jeff_> *brings up a white box
[22:40] <JontheEchidna> a white box, interesting
[22:41] <JontheEchidna> anyway, plasma is probably crashing. To solve that you can rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[22:43] <jeff_> just did that, how do i launch kde from the terminal now?
[22:44] <dr_willis> You mean the kde desktop? 'startkde' launches everything normally
[22:44] <jeff_> thank you
[22:45] <glkasleg> this is the repository for openoffice.org 3.0 in kubuntu hardy: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu hardy main
[22:48] <jeff_> still having the same problem
[22:48]  * dr_willis dosetn knwo what the original problem was.
[22:49] <jeff_> cant see anything in kde when i log in
[22:50] <jeff_> i did rm ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc and looked at ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc to disable desktop effects but nothing has worked so far
[22:51] <JontheEchidna> jeff_: if you add a user with "adduser", can that user log in and have everything work?
[22:51] <dr_willis> try a new user - see if it works for them.. if so . then yes. it does sound like a user config issue for you rother user.. You could as a temp fix rename the whole .kde dir.
[22:51] <dr_willis> but you will lose all your kde settings that way
[22:52] <dr_willis> well not loose. :) you could start copying them back I guess to the new made .kde dir.. but it may be easier to just  start from scratch
[22:52] <jeff_> i wil try
[22:53] <jaime> hello, quick question
[22:54] <jaime> what's the technology that is used to render help in UI toolkits/applications
[22:54] <jaime> I'm not talking about man pages, readme files
[22:54] <jaime> something along the lines of .chm (Windows)
[22:55] <jeff_> kde works for the new user
[22:55] <jaime> If I were to write a UI application in linux, how do I integrate help into the application
[22:57] <jaime> in Open Office how is the help option implemented, when you click on the menu option (HELP) and then choose OpenOffice.org Help, how is that implemented?
[22:59] <jeff_> so if i dont care about my kde settings i should just rename the .kde dir?
[23:01] <kjhk> hello all
[23:04] <dr_willis> jeff_,  renaming it will be a 'restoreable' way to reset them back to defaults :)
[23:04] <jeff_> alternativly i could just delete it?
[23:05] <jeff_> and why does it say $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server when i type startkde
[23:06] <dr_willis> and how are you starting it? from a CONSOLE? or where exactly?
[23:07] <dr_willis> if you use kdm to login, you dont need to mess with 'startkde' -  just renaming your .kde* dir will reset the kde settings
[23:07] <jeff_> ya from the console, after renaming it from there since i failed to make my new user a sudoer
[23:07] <dr_willis> You would use 'startx' to start up X :) or restart the KDm service
[23:08] <jeff_> thank you startx was the way to go
[23:09] <jeff_> thank you dr_willis and JontheEchidna...things are working again
[23:09] <JontheEchidna> yay
[23:10] <jpedroza> I just asked this in OpenOffice.org chanel, but it seems it might be a KDE/Kubuntu issue. I can't seem to get OpenOffice to show fonts in dialog boxes. They show up everywhere else, just not dialogs. I am runing OOo3 under Intrepid.
[23:10] <jeff_> im such a noob, but im kind of ok with things breaking that way im forced to learn a bit about how things actualy work
[23:10] <jpedroza> Has anyone else seen this?
[23:10] <JontheEchidna> jpedroza: using an older nvidia?
[23:11] <jpedroza> JontheEchidna: Most current NVIDIA drivers, but using 2 monitors.
[23:11] <kniolet> jpedroza: it works fine on my computer (kde 4.1/intrepid)
[23:11] <kniolet> i have an intel graphics card though
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> there is a problem with the nvidia-glx-96 drivers where text in most kde3 apps and openoffice is invisible
[23:12] <jpedroza> JontheEchidna: The nvidia drivers seem to be my biggest issue these days.
[23:12] <JontheEchidna> yeah, the nvidia dudes forgot to backport the fix from the latest drivers when making the driver compatible with xserver 1.5
[23:13] <jpedroza> JontheEchidna: I haven't seen this issue with any other apps, just OOo.
[23:18] <stnormal> I'm getting buffer errors when I try to run the liveCD or install (ver 8.10). The LiveCD will boot all the way, but the install program closes as soon as it's opened, where as the install option hangs when X first opens
[23:20] <stnormal> or, maybe not... huh... the buffer errors were still there, but this time when I boot into the LiveCD the install program worked. Weird
[23:30] <luke_> hello
[23:33] <dr_willis> dirt on the cd? stnormal ?
[23:33] <stnormal> nah, i tried burning a new one
[23:34] <stnormal> i suppose it could be a bad torrent, but the self-diagnostic thing in the install menu said that everything was kosher
[23:38] <wallabee> I need help getting a logitech cordless optical mouse to work.  It seems to be a permission problem. It tells me to consult "the manual" to fix the problem but im not sure what that is.  http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/121/87882236tk8.png
[23:41] <wallabee> Ive searched threads for hours but dont know the proper settings for the permissions (if that is the problem) so if anyone has any help would be much appreciated.
[23:44] <wallabee> lsusb shows the receiver connected. Ive also heard of programs like locomoco and logitech_applet but not sure these are of any use.
[23:45]  * dr_willis wonders what manual they are refering to..
[23:45] <dr_willis> :)
[23:45] <dr_willis> eery mouse ive had ya just plug in and it works.
[23:45] <dr_willis> this is a normal usb wireless mouse? Not bluetooth?
[23:46] <wallabee> wondering about the same manual.. but yes just a normal usb wireless mouse
[23:47] <wallabee> it seems like it should just work but apparently has some issue with permissions (i believe in libusb)
[23:48] <dr_willis> So the mouse does not work at all?
[23:48] <wallabee> unfortunately no.
[23:49] <wallabee> but it recognizes the receiver which has a little "connect" button but pressing this does nothing.
[23:50] <wallabee> it seemed to be a common problem for kde user with logitech cordless mice over several releases of kde but i haven't found a viable solution
[23:52] <dr_willis> I think the mouse AND the reciever both have a connect button
[23:54] <stnormal> the exact buffer error I get is basically: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 1425200
[23:55] <stnormal> Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 356300
[23:55] <wallabee> it seems the users that did have sucess changed some permissions this was the closet solution i found http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/permissions-problem-mx510-optical-mouse-378482/
[23:55] <stnormal> and it repeats a number of times before the "setting preliminary keymap" stage, and after the "loading hardware drivers" stage
[23:56] <stnormal> each with a different time stamp
[23:56] <wallabee> i dont see a connect button on the mouse .. when i press the connect on the receiver it makes the red optical light flash a few times like its syching or something