[00:00] <daftykins> why don't you just VM it? i just installed it an hour ago.
[00:00] <ElfBot> I stuck it on my home server :) its pretty much same as 2012
[00:00] <dalekusa> ok
[00:00] <daftykins> dalekusa: you're going to land yourself in bootloader troubles :)
[00:00] <dalekusa> ok
[00:00] <ElfBot> (the server edition at least
[00:00] <dalekusa> I'll go the VM rout
[00:00] <dalekusa> route
[00:00] <pero> i keep getting booted my wifi every once in a while, sometimes almost immediately after logging on (Jan 23 18:59:18 tesla kernel: [ 9907.482550] wlan0: deauthenticated from 00:21:91:14:04:8f (Reason: 4)
[00:00] <pero> )
[00:01] <dalekusa> my computer isn't that fast, though.
[00:01] <daftykins> how bad are we talking?
[00:01] <hd> Hello
[00:01] <daftykins> hi
[00:02] <undecim> pero, Have you rebooted your router?
[00:02] <dalekusa> 2.5GHz dual-core 64-bit; 3GB of ram
[00:02] <dalekusa> daftykins
[00:02] <pero> undecim, i thought i would first find out what 'reason 4' is
[00:03] <pero> but failed at googling it
[00:03] <undecim> pero, Let's reboot the router first, unless it would disrupt something
[00:03] <daftykins> dalekusa: nothing wrong with that especially
[00:03] <pero> undecim,do you know what reason 4 is? ;)
[00:04] <dalekusa> ok
[00:04] <undecim> pero, nope. I don't think it matters
[00:04] <daftykins> you can look up reason 4. likely it's a driver decision
[00:04] <dalekusa> which is better, VirtualBox or VMWare
[00:04] <pero> daftykins, yea the drivers were updated last week i believe
[00:04] <undecim> "4 	Disassociated due to inactivity"
[00:05] <dgarstang> EriC^^: :-O
[00:05] <pero> just did it again
[00:05] <pero> =.
[00:05] <pero> =/
[00:05] <undecim> pero, Have you rebooted your router? That's networking troubleshooting step #1 in my book
[00:06] <dalekusa> daftykins: which is better, VMWare or VirtualBox
[00:06] <daftykins> for you? virtualbox since it's free
[00:07] <hd> oh, guess must have another system board, as when setting the BIOS under Windows 8 feature by erasing UEFI list(or something) on a try to reinstall windows, but now the computer does not boot or anything. why is that a hard problem under Windows 8 feature at the bios?
[00:07] <pero> undecim, no - that's not easily accomplished
[00:07] <pero> and again
[00:07] <dalekusa> should I set it up as a Win8.1 machine?
[00:07] <cyber023> Could somebody help me set up my 3 screens on gtx770
[00:07] <daftykins> sure
[00:07] <pero> sorry i missed everything after undecim's step #1
[00:07] <daftykins> cyber023: why, what are you having trouble with?
[00:08] <undecim> pero, see if you can sustain a connection by constantly having network traffic. You could download an Ubuntu ISO via torrent and reduce the speed to 1kb/s, for example
[00:09] <undecim> pero, Also, it would be great to know what wifi card you have
[00:09] <barbara> im trying to upgrade from quantal 12.10 to the latest version but im getting W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[00:09] <barbara> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[00:09] <barbara> can someone tell me how to update the repositories?
[00:09] <cyber023> Two of my screens connected with HDMI and DVI-D work fine good res but my third screen is stuk at a low res. Installed NVIDIA drivers and ARandR but when I and custom res it gives me a error
[00:09] <dalekusa> daftykins do I enable PAE?
[00:10] <undecim> cyber023, Can you be more precise on what "error" is?
[00:10] <cyber023> X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
[00:10] <cyber023>   Major opcode of failed request:  140 (RANDR)
[00:10] <cyber023>   Minor opcode of failed request:  21 (RRSetCrtcConfig)
[00:10] <cyber023>   Value in failed request:  0x0
[00:10] <cyber023>   Serial number of failed request:  56
[00:10] <cyber023>   Current serial number in output stream:  56
[00:10] <barbara> im looking to update to 14.04 LTS from 12.10 LTS can someone tell me how to update the repositories
[00:10] <barbara> err from 12.10 LTS to 14.04 LTS sorry
[00:10] <petar> i missed everything after undecim's step #1
[00:10] <daftykins> dalekusa: i'm not holding your hand this much :P chat in #vbox for more
[00:11] <dalekusa> ok
[00:11] <undecim> petar, see if you can sustain a connection by constantly having network traffic. You could download an Ubuntu ISO via torrent and reduce the speed to 1kb/s, for example
[00:11] <hd> 14.10 Ubuntu Studio
[00:11] <undecim> petar: reason 4 is "Disassociated due to inactivity"
[00:11] <daftykins> barbara: total waste of time, you'd have to go through 3 upgrades to be at 14.04. just backup and clean install, you'll still be young when you're done.
[00:11] <barbara> =]
[00:11] <undecim> !paste |  cyber023
[00:12] <barbara> too late
[00:12] <pero> undecim, seems like a driver regression actually - ive found some old bugs now on launchpad
[00:12] <cyber023> sorry did not know that
[00:13] <hd> too late seem social charges at private level on a pirate world.
[00:13] <cyber023> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9842260/
[00:13] <daftykins> cyber023: and where is that taken from?
[00:14] <cyber023> terminal after trying to run to xrandr --addmode command
[00:14] <hd> planet Earth
[00:14] <undecim> cyber023, In the future, include the line with the command in the paste
[00:14] <undecim> cyber023, Can you paste output of "xrandr"
[00:14] <daftykins> hd: i'd appreciate you stopping the pointless wise cracks. either hang around with a support question, or take it elsewhere.
[00:15] <cyber023> undecim, there you go
[00:15] <cyber023> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9842290/
[00:15] <hd> the picture has many details
[00:16] <daftykins> hd: what is your support question? or are you a bot...
[00:16] <undecim> cyber023, What is the full --addmode command?
[00:17] <Bashing-om> !eol | barbara: As advised it is a long hard road, and lots of bandwidth but ->
[00:17] <barbara> thanks!
[00:18] <Bashing-om> barbara: :-) good luck .
[00:18] <cyber023> undecim, here
[00:18] <cyber023>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/9842316/
[00:19] <undecim> cyber023, Can you try the same method using a smaller resolution, like 800x600?
[00:19] <cyber023> sure
[00:20] <undecim> cyber023, And also, tell me how each of these displays connectors are configured. How many cards?  How can I install a package without the dialogs? In my case, Postfix?
[00:21] <undecim> cyber023, Yeah, just paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:21] <cyber023> 1 card nvidia gtx770 1xhdmi (1920x1080) 1xdvi-d (1680x1050) 1x dvi-i -> vga (troubled monitor)
[00:21] <NightMonkey> Is there a way to pre-fill the dialog questions?
[00:22] <hd> as a computer hardware, based for on a programming environment that to build the system in a knowledge level. how to fix BIOS that had being erased settings under Windows 8 Feature, that makes the computer not do anything anymore.
[00:22] <daftykins> hd: sounds like you're using a translator. what language do you speak?
[00:22] <daftykins> hd: Windows support is in ##windows
[00:22] <cyber023> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9842378/ log file
[00:23] <DarkstarAlpha> i have a question about pxe booting ubuntu desktop from server 08
[00:23] <daftykins> ah-har a bad EDID
[00:24] <daftykins> DarkstarAlpha: as in, Hyper-V?
[00:24] <cyber023> undecim, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9842378/ log file 1 card nvidia gtx770 1xhdmi (1920x1080) 1xdvi-d (1680x1050) 1x dvi-i -> vga (troubled monitor) forgot your name :)
[00:24] <DarkstarAlpha> no i have everything setup in WDS and the client boots correctly says loading vesamenu.c....ok but then says booting kernel failed no such file or directory
[00:25] <daftykins> "WDS" in this context is...?
[00:25] <hd> very well then.
[00:25] <DarkstarAlpha> windows distribution services
[00:26] <daftykins> hmm doesn't really strike me as an ubuntu support query exactly
[00:26] <daftykins> have you tried the mini.iso for netboot instead of desktop images?
[00:26] <DarkstarAlpha> the reason i think so is maybe my default file is wrong idk and no i didnt see that where do i get that iso
[00:28] <daftykins> from ubuntu.com
[00:30] <undecim> cyber023, So the low-res monitor is a VGA with a DVI > VGA adapter?
[00:31] <cyber023> undecim, yes that right
[00:31] <DarkstarAlpha> i dont see it i only see the dekstop/server downloads
[00:32] <daftykins> DarkstarAlpha: got it in 5 seconds flat - http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[00:32] <daftykins> from the menu: Downloads -> alternative downloads
[00:33] <daftykins> cyber023 undecim broken EDID mess all over. you're gonna have to hardcode a xorg.conf with mode lines obtained from xrandr, then disable UseEdid in said xorg.conf too
[00:33] <DarkstarAlpha> i saw that but i have been trying to use the live cd i am trying to not have to install it but run thin
[00:34] <daftykins> just try it for completeness
[00:34] <daftykins> you're unlikely to get anyone else who is using that method, so unless you can find some guides online...
[00:34] <DarkstarAlpha> alright thx for your help
[00:35] <cyber023> undecim, and how does one do this
[00:36] <valkyr87> EriC^^: ok so testdisk can only recover the swap partition after deep analysis... i give up :|
[00:36] <cyber023> daftykins, how do you do this
[00:37] <daftykins> cyber023: cyber023 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaResolutionXorgConf
[00:37] <daftykins> oops double highlight
[00:43] <NightMonkey> How do I purge 'cached' answers to preconfigure dialogs?
[00:47] <mazak> czesc
[00:48] <daftykins> mazak: ?
[00:52] <anonleaf> audio problems on a x200t headphones working only alsa seems fine
[00:52] <anonleaf> what do
[00:58] <jonathanweber> Hi!
[00:58] <jonathanweber> I have a problem with the following bash command: primesieve 10e5 10e6 -p1 | grep -o "6" | wc -l
[00:58] <jonathanweber> primesieve gives prime numbers in a specific range, in this case all 16-digit prime numbers. It returns each number in a new line. Now I want to count the amount of the digit "6" in each prime number and return this value instead. The problem is: wc doesn't know when grep is starting to search in the next line of output and is therefore counting all "6" in all prime numbers that are returned by the program. When
[00:58] <jonathanweber> the range-scan is finished, wc gives the total number of "6" of all found prime numbers. Does anyone know a workaround for this? Can grep itself search in just one-line and give the number of "6" before proceding to the next line?
[00:59] <undecim> jonathanweber, You want a table of the number of 6's in the primes you're looking at?
[01:00] <undecim> jonathanweber, I think you should be using python or octave for this
[01:00] <ph88> why is the 2014 version of this package not available? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=haskell-platform
[01:00] <jonathanweber> yeah, exactly.
[01:00] <jonathanweber> Let's say primesieve gives
[01:00] <jonathanweber> 347236
[01:00] <jonathanweber> 236347
[01:00] <jonathanweber> 357566
[01:00] <jonathanweber> I want to get
[01:00] <jonathanweber> 1
[01:00] <jonathanweber> 1
[01:00] <jonathanweber> 2
[01:00] <undecim> jonathanweber, Do you want to see primes without 6 in them?
[01:01] <cyber023> undecim fixed it needed to swap the vga for a dvi cable and everything worked out thanks
[01:01] <jonathanweber> nope, I want to find the prime with the highest amounts of 6 in them (and no, I have no contract with the devil ;-))
[01:02] <Ben64> jonathanweber: maybe you should ask in #bash ... not really on topic here
[01:02] <undecim> jonathanweber, You know any python?
[01:02] <jonathanweber> I could probably learn it in some days but I hoped there would be an easier solution
[01:03] <undecim> jonathanweber, You could probably learn it in a couple minutes
[01:03] <daftykins> jonathanweber: perhaps #bash is more relevant to you in some way, as that does not constitute OS support.
[01:03] <undecim> jonathanweber, And will make this (and any similar problems) a lot easier than bash
[01:04] <jonathanweber> allright, thanks - I just asked there! :-)
[01:12] <xbox> oii
[01:12] <undecim> jonathanweber, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9842876/
[01:12] <undecim> jonathanweber, 666667 is the highest
[01:14] <Wayward_One> Hi, I keep getting this problem: any time I try to play a game or, more recently, just use a new irc client, after a few seconds the screen tiles up and my computer freezes. Is this known behaviour, and if so, what can I do to fix it?
[01:14] <corax> hi guys .. Im using Ubuntu 14.04 ... and I cant seem to change the font size of the email I print out from Evolution ... n e one know a trick/solution ?
[01:15] <jonathanweber> Wow, I guess you can call this a help :-D thanks!
[01:15] <jonathanweber> Anyway, this code was just an example, I want to find it out with 16-digit numbers (10^15 to 10^16) - I don't think python can easily do this?
[01:16] <undecim> jonathanweber, I'm currently doing 10e10 and using ~7G RAM to do it
[01:17] <undecim> jonathanweber, It's still running, and probably will be for a while
[01:19] <undecim> jonathanweber, problem is that there are about 2.4e14 primes in that range....
[01:20] <undecim> (in your 16-digit range)
[01:20] <undecim> jonathanweber, Maybe ask #math
[01:21] <hd> Ubuntu Studio is working very nicely.
[01:22] <jonathanweber> Yeah, there is the problem; I allready tried to save them all in a file first - but before you get even close to finishing the text-file gets incredibly large... So I wanted to filter out all primes with less then 8 or so "6"
[01:22] <undecim> jonathanweber, You can make a python script to handle the filtering
[01:23] <jonathanweber> Yeah for sure
[01:23] <corax> if you choke a smerf, what color would he turn?
[01:25] <parsnip> hmm, so i've managed to get vnc working. now how should i set up desktop choices?
[01:25] <corax> if you ate pasta and antipasta, would you still be hungry?
[01:25] <parsnip> hmm
[01:25] <parsnip> i think that would simply make you explode
[01:26] <corax> If a pig loses it's voice, is it disgruntled?
[01:26] <hd> hey, where is a link so i can see a page code from Ubuntu that would be important that i can have saved the link to understand the system structure?
[01:26] <parsnip> unless you can find your twin to eat the other half
[01:27] <corax> :-)
[01:27] <corax> hi guys .. Im using Ubuntu 14.04 ... and I cant seem to change the font size of the email I print out from Evolution ... n e one know a trick/solution ?
[01:28] <daftykins> corax: pro tip, don't mess around with off topic comments or you'll get labelled a troll and probably shown the door
[01:30] <parsnip> hmm, selected logout on vnc ubuntu. screen went black
[01:30] <daftykins> correct, VNC is on your session not host-wide
[01:31] <parsnip> how can i select other desktop environments on the vnc'd remote?
[01:32] <daftykins> is this host a VPS? or on your home network?
[01:32] <parsnip> VPS? it is an EC2.
[01:32] <daftykins> are you tunneling your VNC connection over SSH?
[01:32] <parsnip> yes
[01:32] <undecim> jonathanweber, Here's a simple "filter" script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9843086/
[01:33] <undecim> jonathanweber, You can change the "theFilter" function to suite your needs
[01:33] <parsnip> is it easier without the ssh? nothing sensitive is on remote.
[01:33] <daftykins> parsnip: you might have some luck with changing lightdm's default session via /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf - dunno
[01:33] <daftykins> parsnip: without SSH your password goes in plain text.
[01:33] <parsnip> will check, thank you
[01:33] <daftykins> possibly anyway, VNC is a bit 90s in my head.
[01:34] <parsnip> yeah, i'm not trying to do anything serious on it, i just want to look at some other DEs and WMs before picking the next. also, as an exercise.
[01:34] <jonathanweber> thank you undecim! Looks like python isn't that complicated, at least I understand the code :-D
[01:34] <parsnip> wonder if ssh slows down the reaction time. so slow
[01:34] <daftykins> that would've made so much more sense in a VM on your host, parsnip
[01:34] <jonathanweber> I see if I can put it all together!
[01:34] <daftykins> yes it will, load due to encryption overhead
[01:35] <undecim> jonathanweber, You should be able to execute the script like a program if you have Python 3 installed
[01:35] <parsnip> cool, will probably play with non-ssh later
[01:35] <daftykins> parsnip: and just genuinely not being suited to your current task whatsoever :P
[01:36] <jonathanweber> undecim: The guys in #bash helped me out with a bash command, but I will try it later when I parse the resulting file for the "highest-6" primes
[01:36] <parsnip> daftykins: i have not had much luck with VMs so far
[01:36] <daftykins> parsnip: how-so? what tech did you try?
[01:36] <daftykins> playing with Linux at home via VMs is a million times more sane than via a cloud instance over VNC :D
[01:36] <parsnip> i tried virtual box and vmware. for instance, window resizing, etc.
[01:37] <parsnip> parallelz seems nice, though i've only seen it preconfigured on some school computers. it was awesome.
[01:37] <parsnip> on Macs.
[01:38] <parsnip> wonder if it's nice on GNU/Linux too.
[01:38] <daftykins> i think it's mac only
[01:38] <parsnip> i should get better with VMs at some point, but the remotes also serve as a weightless laptop to lug to work.
[01:39] <daftykins> ah no i was thinking of something else
[01:39] <parsnip> though, i'm usually happy with just ssh, via putty, or RDP
[01:39] <mamerom> quit
[01:39] <daftykins> RDP is Windows
[01:39] <parsnip> yeah, i meant, i have a paused remote windows for when i need it, via rdp
[01:39] <compdoc> I always install xrdp on ubuntu
[01:40] <parsnip> i'm about to get rid of my annoying dual-boot, with paused remote windows as my new solution
[01:40] <hd> looks like count is a python style of "lenght", made by "theFilter" where a typo seems to be a position, then by other command whatever not an empty value stdout perform the result.
[01:40] <parsnip> for when i need a precisely formatted Word doc, etc.
[01:41] <daftykins> yeah dualboot never works out, you only ever end up neglecting one OS
[01:41] <parsnip> i have (almost) all my data on a shared ntfs partition;fugly
[01:42] <parsnip> mapping priveleges on ntfs is /really/ annoying
[01:42] <parsnip> like messing around with executable python or so
[01:43] <parsnip> i will finally cut the cord
[01:43] <imastupidguest> Can somebody pls help? I'm trying to install zoops locally on my laptop and the only instructionals I can find are either for ubuntu 9.10 or centos 6. I don't know mysql commands and that centos one doesn't tell you some simple things I need to know. Like what to replace in
[01:43] <imastupidguest> GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON .* TO 'xoopsuser'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'your-password' WITH GRANT OPTION;
[01:44] <imastupidguest> I know it sounds stupid but I don't know how to undo anything w/ mysql so if I issue a wrong command(s) I'll just dig myself a hole
[01:44] <undecim> imastupidguest, xoopsuser = username that zoops uses for MySQL, your-password = the password zoops uses for MySQL
[01:44] <daftykins> imastupidguest: GRANT ALL ON db.* to 'usernameyoupick'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'password goes here';
[01:45] <daftykins> (where db.* = databasename.*)
[01:45] <daftykins> also, localhost means that's only going to work if it's all running on the same host. can't be another host in the same network
[01:45] <undecim> imastupidguest, I have no idea what zoops is, but on PHP scripts like wordpress, there is a configuration file with those two options, or you create the config file yourself
[01:46] <imastupidguest> daftykins: undecim: thx. Yeah, I just wanna try out xoops a bit but I don't like the bitnami stuff. That leaves me this, more manual installation
[01:46] <daftykins> i have no idea what that is
[01:49] <imastupidguest> So if it's ... IDENTIFIED BY 'your-password'  ... is that something I need to set up/config with mysql before I can issue the command I pasted? Do I give it my root password? err ... my gmail password?
[01:49] <daftykins> these *are* mySQL commands
[01:49] <daftykins> you're creating a username and password that can access the database
[01:50] <daftykins> then you'll configure this... zoops with those details so it can function
[01:50] <imastupidguest> daftykins: oh, xoops if like drupal (same kind of program) bitnami makes premade "stacks" of software and installers, vms, etc
[01:50] <imastupidguest> xoops is one of many many bitnami offering
[01:52] <imastupidguest> daftykins: I feel like such an idiot but I have to be clear - I can make up any password there that I like (it doesn't have to correspond to some existing password)? Bc this is the command that creates it for the first time, right?
[01:52] <imastupidguest> This is so way out of my league (doing this)
[01:53] <daftykins> just try, if it's wrong - repeating the command with another password would replace it
[01:53] <daftykins> but i don't know the product 100%, so i can only comment from my parallel experience with setting up mysql databases for wordpress instances
[01:54] <imastupidguest> daftykins: well it's a long, arduous install process. Moreso for me. I think I'd rather approach this with a clear understanding than take any guesses along the way
[01:55] <daftykins> right so what you do is take notes, you asterisk stuff you weren't sure on, then you keep trying
[01:55] <dacresni> any nodejs users here on ubuntu?
[01:55] <imastupidguest> I don't have a context w/ which to understand these mysql commands is the thing. Whether something in a command should refer to somthing already existing (and if so, what?) or making a new one
[01:55] <undecim> imastupidguest, If there are VM instances available that are pre-configured, you could just try it in VirtualBox?
[01:56] <dacresni> is nodejs on ubuntu really broken?
[01:56] <daftykins> imastupidguest: you're worrying too much. we already explained the variables
[01:57] <imastupidguest> So what do you do when, 2 days later (bc you had to look up umpteen thousand questions), and the install doesn't work, it's broke, AND you have this big mysql (and probably apache2 and a couple other things) - mess you don't know how to clean up?
[01:57] <imastupidguest> I just asked if it was a new password being created or referring to some existing password is all
[01:58] <imastupidguest> never got an answer (not to be rude - it's true)
[01:58] <undecim> imastupidguest, MySQL is a database server
[01:58] <imastupidguest> undecim: Wasted an hr on the vm already, not thx
[01:59] <undecim> imastupidguest, There are users just like on a wordpress server or ssh server
[01:59] <daftykins> imastupidguest: well i taught myself web server management, so that didn't happen for me :)
[01:59] <undecim> imastupidguest, Your software needs access to the database server and therefore needs a username and password
[01:59] <imastupidguest> I'm not in this to learn system admin or any other long term learning objective. I just wanted to try out an application is all. I haate this part
[02:00] <daftykins> imastupidguest: i did respond, my answer was "i don't know this product" so i couldn't comment on whether there's a default password the program would be expecting. likely there's just a config file somewhere you need to edit with the username+password you pick
[02:00] <daftykins> perhaps this isn't for you, then?
[02:00] <undecim> imastupidguest, That MySQL creates or overwrites the username and password
[02:00] <undecim> That MySQL command*
[02:01] <undecim> imastupidguest, Whether or not that username and password is already chosen depends on the software. Like I said before, there is probably a config file with the variables. You just have to make sure the config matches
[02:02] <imastupidguest> daftykins: I'm sorry. I don't know how it normally works. I was hoping it would be descr. to me. So the password you create for mysql (the pasted command from above) is one part of a pair? That in any situation like this (a web app that uses mysql) there will be a corresponding password in the app itself?
[02:02] <imastupidguest> how does it normally work?
[02:02] <imastupidguest> cause there really is no clear documentation for the install out there
[02:03] <daftykins> a program that wants to use a database, must log into it using a username + password
[02:03] <imastupidguest> holy shit
[02:03] <undecim> Watch your fingers...
[02:04] <daftykins> e.g. you configure the webapp "wordpress" via a wp-config.php file it has, to login to your database with 4 configuration parameters
[02:04] <daftykins> host, database name, username and password
[02:04] <daftykins> same as you're doing for the one you're dealing with
[02:04] <imastupidguest> some of this stuff just installs sudo apt-get install < whatever> and it's done. You don't have to deal w/ things like this. So it really isn't that obvious to someone who's never seen it (how things work when you involve apache, mysql, and some ... web app)
[02:05] <imastupidguest> I think I have some context enuf to hobble through
[02:05] <imastupidguest> I sure appreciate it
[02:06] <daftykins> yeah, you couldn't package up something like this because packages have set places to install
[02:06] <imastupidguest> hmm
[02:06] <daftykins> lets say i made a package that threw something into your apache documenroot, i might overwrite your own stuff
[02:06] <daftykins> then you'd not be very pleased :D
[02:06] <Ben64> when things are too easy, it promotes ignorance and then pages get hacked, email relays are created, other bad stuff
[02:07] <imastupidguest> That's too bad. There's been a few web apps I wanted to mess with (and did a couple times). This installation is always tough for me for some reason though
[02:07] <daftykins> it's tough at first sometimes, but it's easy afterwards
[02:08] <daftykins> i can throw up a wordpress site in 5 mins now really
[02:08] <daftykins> but that's like, download zip... extract
[02:17] <kobblerkibbler> im using the live cd and trying to install the flash plugin but its saying there isnt a package called flashplayer-plugin in your current software sources yet it is listed in the software centre
[02:18] <xangua> !find flashplayer
[02:19] <xangua> !find flashplugin
[02:19] <NegativeFlare> !flash
[02:20] <kobblerkibbler> yea im doing what that site says trying to add it in the software centre but its saying i dont have it in my sources after i click more info on it
[02:21] <NegativeFlare> kobblerkibbler: I've learned to NOT use the Software Center, but that's just my opinion
[02:21] <NegativeFlare> I will always and forever use the terminal and synaptic
[02:22] <hydrajump> i use the ubuntu live cd to create an image of /dev/sda using the "Disks" utility
[02:22] <NegativeFlare> hydrajump: are you asking or telling? o_O
[02:22] <bob1923476> when using pptp client I'm getting an error message:  LCP: timeout sending Config-requests connection terminated... any ideas?
[02:22] <bob1923476> i need command line for a php script
[02:23] <hydrajump> now I created a VM on another system booted from the live cd and did a restore of the .img to the virtual disk. I can see that the 3 partitions were created successfully on the virtual disk, but when i try to boot it it can't boot
[02:23] <hydrajump> is this a result of doing a P2V?
[02:23] <bob1923476> i followed the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[02:23] <bob1923476> its using the command 'pon myvpn' which calls from /etc/ppp/peers/myvpn
[02:24] <daftykins> hydrajump: wouldn't be surprised if the UUIDs changed.
[02:25] <kobblerkibbler> i cant even get chromium with pepperflash because all the instructions on the ubuntu wiki say to use the software centre for at least one step and it isnt working for me
[02:25] <hydrajump> daftykins: in gparted I see: /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, /dev/sda3
[02:26] <SchrodingersScat> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree | kobblerkibbler
[02:26] <hydrajump> can I somehow fix /dev/sda1 which is the boot partition without losing the data in /dev/sda2?
[02:26] <daftykins> hydrajump: first off, why on earth are you using this method? :P
[02:26] <daftykins> hydrajump: boot a live session, chroot and try an update-grub
[02:26] <hydrajump> daftykins: it's for testing purposes
[02:26] <kobblerkibbler> yes but to add multiverse the wiki says to do it through the software centre which isnt working for me ;/
[02:26] <hydrajump> i'm booted from the live cd now
[02:27] <hydrajump> so I want to chroot /dev/sda ?
[02:27] <daftykins> kobblerkibbler: system settings -> software and sources
[02:27] <daftykins> hydrajump: your install has 3 partitions, you have to mount them all underneath /mnt as proper
[02:27] <daftykins> !chroot
[02:27] <daftykins> i have to go now, good hunting
[02:28] <hydrajump> thanks
[02:29] <SchrodingersScat> you should probably make some backups btw, since you mentioned not wanting to lose /dev/sda2
[02:34] <bob1923476> Anybody know about PPTP VPN connections?  Trying to find a way to connect from the command line but after setting everything up according to the official guide I run pon and it doesn't work.  Connections fails and it hangs up
[02:39] <luka_> Hello can someone maybe help me with my problem? http://askubuntu.com/questions/576775/lenovo-g500-on-ubuntu-battery-wont-charge-over-59
[02:42] <daftykins> luka_: ah i saw you start this conversation the other day, but didn't see it put so clearly. you're going to need to go the Windows route i'm afraid, unless there is anything in your BIOS/EFI. (which i don't think there is)
[02:42] <daftykins> you have no other choice
[02:43] <aeon-ltd> luka_: yeah, i suppose if you had 2 hdds you could install windows on the other hdd, then you wouldn't have to do the grub stuff
[02:44] <daftykins> or you could run the utility from Windows PE (a booted win7 or 8 installer) but you would need a zipped folder of the utility, installing won't run
[02:45] <_X_C_V_B_> I have compiz enabled on xfce4
[02:46] <_X_C_V_B_> The desktop isn't working right
[02:46] <daftykins> i didn't think they're designed to work together, so that doesn't come as much of a surprise :)
[02:46] <_X_C_V_B_> *desktop cube
[02:46] <_X_C_V_B_> The cube desktop isn't working right
[02:47] <rtdos> How can I prevent certain users from hearing sound and other users from not hearing sound?
[02:47] <_X_C_V_B_> When I go to view the cube there's black
[02:47] <_X_C_V_B_> I can't see part of the cube
[02:48] <_X_C_V_B_> It isn't rendering correctly
[02:48] <luka_> Thank you aeon and dafty. :)
[02:49] <daftykins> _X_C_V_B_: graphics hardware + driver?
[02:51] <_X_C_V_B_> daftykins: I don't think it's drivers
[02:52] <daftykins> maybe not, but can we start at the basics?
[02:52] <_X_C_V_B_> daftykins: have you used the compiz cube
[02:53] <daftykins> that was all the rage back in about 2004 i think, sure
[02:53] <SchrodingersScat> it was cubes and wobbly windows as far as the eye could see
[02:53] <daftykins> :)
[02:53] <daftykins> sure was
[02:53] <_X_C_V_B_> I love wobbly windows
[02:55] <daftykins> _X_C_V_B_: so do you fancy sharing two pieces of information, or shall we all go idle? :)
[02:55] <_X_C_V_B_> When I view the cube I can sort of see it but there's something covering it up
[02:56] <daftykins> a picture would be nice
[02:56] <daftykins> but if you're going to ignore my questions, i don't really see it being too effective trying to assist you?
[02:57] <fry__> Hey guys. I have two different graphics cards in my computer. How can I look up or see a list of the various hardware in my computer?
[02:57] <daftykins> "lshw"
[02:57] <fry__> thanks
[02:57] <daftykins> or just "lspci" for the graphics cards
[02:58] <fry__> daftykins: can I install two different types/sizes of memory sticks with ubuntu?
[02:59] <daftykins> lol
[02:59] <fry__> daftykins: stupid question?
[02:59] <daftykins> fry__: the OS doesn't care about the memory modules, the hardware does though.
[02:59] <daftykins> CPU and motherboard compatibility is relevant, not OS
[02:59] <fry__> right
[02:59] <Dresk> I'm having the strangest issue where, with a hardware identical setup, after moving from Mandriva 2011 to Ubuntu 14.10, my onboard mobo device is sporatically hanging, as reported by dmesg.  I have a pastebin here showing it failing twice : http://pastebin.com/9x8u50kD
[03:00] <fry__> One last thing, daftykins. Does ubuntu automatically utilize the additional graphics card? Or do I have to do something specific to make it use it?
[03:00] <daftykins> depends what you're dealing with here, what cards? PCI-Express? why use two?
[03:01] <fry__> daftykins: I'm trying to recycle. One is a geforce gtx 570, the other is a geforce 9600 gt
[03:01] <fry__> Don't want to just throw it away
[03:01] <daftykins> fry__: so, purpose will be to drive more displays than the GTX 570 alone can?
[03:02] <daftykins> or "just for fun" ?
[03:02] <fry__> the second answer.
[03:02] <fry__> I want to actually utilize though.
[03:02] <daftykins> to do what?
[03:02] <daftykins> if you're not driving a display you're not really doing anything
[03:02] <fry__> general processing that maybe 570 can't handle on its own
[03:02] <fry__> what do you mean by "driving a display"?
[03:02] <daftykins> you're being a bit vague
[03:03] <daftykins> being connected to a monitor, of course
[03:03] <fry__> ah
[03:03] <fry__> Well. I just thought that perhaps if I'm playing a game that uses a looot of resources for the graphics card. Maybe the second one can pick up some slack
[03:03] <daftykins> nope
[03:03] <fry__> dang.
[03:03] <fry__> So it's useless then
[03:03] <daftykins> sounds like you want to run SLI
[03:04] <fry__> ah
[03:04] <fry__> What is SLI?
[03:04] <daftykins> i don't think you can do it with cards that far apart, they'd need a cable connecting them internally too
[03:04] <daftykins> nvidia's dual/multi graphics card tech
[03:04] <daftykins> you'd see a little connector on the top edge of the cards where a cable can be placed to allow the cards to communicate
[03:04] <fry__> hm
[03:04] <_X_C_V_B_> daftykins: http://postimg.org/image/nvgjrq3d3/
[03:05] <daftykins> fry__: e.g. http://www.nvidia.pl/docs/IO/41448/GeForce_8600_GT_SLI.jpg
[03:05] <fry__> ohhh
[03:05] <daftykins> fry__: but really a 9600 is too old and rubbish to be worth the effort
[03:05] <daftykins> _X_C_V_B_: looks like you need to increase your workspaces to 4, to make the cube
[03:06] <_X_C_V_B_> daftykins: I do have 4
[03:06] <billybadbum> test
[03:06] <billybadbum> it works!
[03:06] <daftykins> doesn't really look like it there
[03:06] <daftykins> _X_C_V_B_: ah well i've no idea, you're trying to make xfce do something it's not meant to
[03:06] <fry__> hm
[03:07] <_X_C_V_B_> If there's nothing in the workspace it doesn't come up
[03:09] <sidharrell_> the default user for apache in ubuntu is www-data, right? so that's what user apache should be running as when I hit phpmyadmin locally, rigtht?
[03:10] <daftykins> yes, but the docroot as of 14.04 is owned by root
[03:10] <_X_C_V_B_> daftykins: I was messing with the settings and I got It working
[03:13] <sidharrell_> the files it has no problem with are owned by root-root 644
[03:13] <sidharrell_> the one it errors on is root:www-data 640
[03:14] <sidharrell_> so it's like the group that it's running as when it hits phpmyadmin is Not the www-data group
[03:14] <Ben64> sidharrell_: so make it 644?
[03:14] <sidharrell_> yeah, I suppose. I'm just trying to figure out why it's not working as-is.
[03:15] <Ben64> because you have root as the owner
[03:15] <uber_hulk> Hi if i want to get a package that is higher from current stable verson
[03:15] <uber_hulk> Hoe do i download and install it?
[03:15] <uber_hulk> Using command line?
[03:15] <Ben64> uber_hulk: you don't
[03:16] <uber_hulk> Ben64: yea but now everythinh is beoken
[03:16] <Ben64> uber_hulk: well what did you do
[03:16] <uber_hulk> My xserver is broken
[03:16] <sidharrell_> uber_hulk, if you are lucky, someone has a ppa with the more recent version
[03:16] <_X_C_V_B_> in the compiz cube how do I zoom out
[03:16] <uber_hulk> I need to reinstall
[03:16] <Ben64> uber_hulk: well what did you do
[03:16] <sidharrell_> uber_hulk, x-swat or x-org-edgers
[03:17] <Ben64> sidharrell_: you probably shouldn't suggest specific PPAs without knowing the issue
[03:17] <uber_hulk> I tried to install awesome 3.5.5 which is unstabel according to ubjntu
[03:17] <Ben64> uber_hulk: and how did you try to do that
[03:17] <uber_hulk> And then i did it with deb package
[03:17] <uber_hulk> And kept breaking packages
[03:17] <uber_hulk> Now i broke the xserver :/
[03:18] <Ben64> uber_hulk: so uninstall the deb
[03:18] <uber_hulk> I need xserver-xorg-core (>= 2:1.11)
[03:19] <Ben64> uber_hulk: what version of ubuntu
[03:19] <uber_hulk> Ben64: i don't think that would be easy one.  It would be hard to see all the things if i want or not?
[03:21] <Ben64> you get a gui if you use the livecd
[03:22] <daftykins> sidharrell_: resolved your issue?
[03:22] <uber_hulk> Ben64: hmm okay
[03:25] <sidharrell_> daftykins, no, I tried making it 644, and still getting the same error in the apache logs on every page load of phpmyadmin
[03:25] <sidharrell_> and I get this The configuration file now needs a secret passphrase (blowfish_secret).
[03:26] <sidharrell_> on the phpmyadmin page, which is weird, cause it's not giving me the error where it loads it from /var/lib/phpmyadmin
[03:26] <daftykins> sidharrell_: is it a folder for phpmyadmin or a single file with incorrect ownership / perms?
[03:26] <Ranieri_> Do you always need the -f option when extracting/creating tar files?
[03:26] <daftykins> -f = specify file name
[03:26] <daftykins> "man tar"
[03:27] <Ranieri_> daftykins: ?
[03:27] <sidharrell_> daftykins, it's giving me this error in the apache log "Failed to load /var/lib/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php Check group www-data has read access and open_basedir restrictions"
[03:27] <sidharrell_> which is coming from /etc/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php
[03:27] <sidharrell_> line 27, 28
[03:28] <daftykins> Ranieri_: yes, because -f is the switch to specify the archive name, as per the man page. run it for clarification
[03:28] <Ben64> sidharrell_: pastebin the output of this command... "ls -ld /etc /etc/phpmyadmin /etc/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php"
[03:29] <sidharrell_> it doesn't give the error on lines 36 and 41 where it checks those
[03:29] <sidharrell_> http://pastebin.com/DfLpmHVa
[03:30] <Ben64> sidharrell_: why is everything owned by root
[03:30] <sidharrell_> cause they are /etc config files
[03:30] <sidharrell_> who else would own them?
[03:31] <Ben64> whoops, i meant /var /var/lib /var/lib/phpmyadmin /var/lib/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php
[03:31] <sidharrell_> http://pastebin.com/v5E4jcZ7
[03:32] <Ben64> well root shouldn't own that
[03:33] <sidharrell_> hey, default, out of the box config. blame the phpmyadmin packagers
[03:33] <Ben64> thats not how it comes
[03:33] <sidharrell_> I did the simplest, sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[03:33] <sidharrell_> on a basic desktop 14.04 install disk
[03:34] <sidharrell_> I try to kiss
[03:37] <_X_C_V_B_> in xfce4 is there a way to search menu items like in unity
[03:37] <sidharrell_> normally it wouldn't bother me, but I'm trying to monitor the tail of /var/log/apache2/error.log, and this phpmyadmin error is just clutter
[03:38] <sems_> heyyy
[03:40] <sidharrell_> ohh, that worked
[03:41] <sidharrell_> sudo chmod 644 /var/lib/phpmyadmin/config.inc.php
[03:41] <sidharrell_> sudo chmod 644 /var/lib/phpmyadmin/blowfish_secret.inc.php
[03:41] <SchrodingersScat> _X_C_V_B_: in 14.10 that seems to be standard, what are you on?
[03:42] <_X_C_V_B_> ubuntu
[03:42] <sidharrell_> I still think the underlying issue is that it's not running phpmyadmin as www-data, but whatev. my logs are now quiet.
[03:42] <SchrodingersScat> _X_C_V_B_: hmm, that's confusing, I thought you were asking about xfce4...
[03:42] <_X_C_V_B_> SchrodingersScat: I installed xfce4 on  ubuntu
[03:43] <SchrodingersScat> _X_C_V_B_: ah, k, I'm in regular xubuntu, nvm.
[03:44] <hd> Ubuntu Studio still nicely, not doing anything too.
[03:44] <_X_C_V_B_> SchrodingersScat: Is there a way I can search the menus
[03:45] <SchrodingersScat> _X_C_V_B_: mine had a search bar under the application menu, if that's not on yours then not sure how to add it, can check settings.
[03:45] <hd> so, how is that i can see the code of the os system as i using it?
[03:46] <ynix> I installed i3wm, but I decided I don't like it. I removed it, but now I can't boot back into unity :|
[03:46] <ynix> It just keeps going back in to i3 (a broken looking version) as if I haven't uninstalled it completely
[03:46] <aeon-ltd> ynix: log out change session?
[03:46] <_X_C_V_B_> SchrodingersScat: do you press alt
[03:46] <ynix> aeon-ltd: How do I log out?
[03:46] <aeon-ltd> hd: might wanna explain more on that
[03:46] <aeon-ltd> ynix: never used i3 :)
[03:47] <SchrodingersScat> _X_C_V_B_: no, I have an xfce mousehead application thing in the top left corner of the panel.
[03:47] <ynix> aeon-ltd: How can I get the session login screen from the terminal in another shell?
[03:47] <aeon-ltd> ynix: https://faq.i3wm.org/question/239/how-do-i-suspendlockscreen-and-logout/ according to this it's mod-shift-e
[03:48] <aeon-ltd> ynix: so alt-shift-e by default i think
[03:48] <ynix> aeon-ltd: Yup, just figured that out, thanks
[03:48] <_X_C_V_B_> SchrodingersScat: right by the close and the minimize?
[03:48] <_X_C_V_B_> button
[03:48] <ynix> aeon-ltd: So what's the deal now with i3 still being there? I've removed everything to do with it. But it still appears there on my sessions list and works when I log in to it (though it's a bit broken looking).
[03:48] <SchrodingersScat> _X_C_V_B_: if you mean menus of the open applications, then no, afaik that doesn't exist.
[03:50] <hd> as the Open Source propaganda about, and as installing and using it. how is that the source code of everything not so available to be seem, like (right Click - Browse and watch Source Workflow )?
[03:50] <aeon-ltd> ynix: no idea, but i think you're gonna have to find out what packages were installed when you got i3wm and uninstall/+purge them all
[03:50] <goliath> How do I ssh via the internet? It work flawless on LAN but i  can't figure out how to do it via the web
[03:51] <Ben64> goliath: exact same way
[03:51] <goliath> Ben64: Like: "ssh goliath@ExternalIP" ?
[03:51] <ynix> thanks
[03:51] <Ben64> goliath: sure
[03:51] <ynix> aeon-ltd: I figured it out, that did it, thanks.
[03:52] <sidharrell_> goliath, if you are coming into your lan over ssh from outside, you may need to set up port forwarding on your router to get it to work.
[03:52] <goliath> Ben64: But... I don't need to chose wich machine I want to connect to?
[03:52] <Ben64> goliath: thats the ip...
[03:53] <daftykins> hd: yeah that translator isn't doing you any favours
[03:53] <goliath> Ben64: External IP is the same for all the machines connected to my LAN...
[03:53] <SchrodingersScat> goliath: if you're trying to reach your home network from outside, then you'll likely need to port forward on your router, which will take care of which machine it gets to on the inside
[03:53] <goliath> Oh.. i get it
[03:54] <sidharrell_> in the router configuration you tell it "this high number port, send to this address on the lan"
[03:56] <sidharrell_> don't use 22 as ther external port. it doesn't make that much difference to a determined attacker, but there's no point in advertising to the world what you are doing.
[03:56] <goliath> sidharrell_: Port was already forwarded to 2222
[03:57] <sidharrell_> goliath, you mean from the external 2222 to what ip/port on the lan? (don't have to post it, if you want to avoid condemnation from the literalnet)
[03:58] <goliath> sidharrell_: the IP of my machine is <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:58] <goliath> sidharrell_: Port 222 is forward to this machine on UDP/TCP
[03:59] <hd> just like html, javascript object inspector at Ubuntu System?
[03:59] <Ben64> hd: nope
[04:00] <sidharrell_> goliath, when you ssh in from outside, you put that port 222 in the ssh command?
[04:00] <goliath> yes
[04:00] <Ranieri_> My software update is messed up.
[04:00] <sidharrell_> what is it  ssh user@ip_address:port
[04:01] <Ranieri_> Someone tutorial me on everything to do with updating with repositories, such like that.
[04:02] <Ben64> Ranieri_: pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" also a description of whats wrong and what you did and what you attempted to accomplish would help
[04:02] <goliath> sidharrell_: Nothing happens...
[04:02] <goliath> It's tryna connecting
[04:03] <goliath> sidharrell_: Wait a sec.. I'm trying something
[04:03] <Ranieri_> Ben64: It's printing a lot of lines, Hit, Get, start most lines
[04:03] <hd> Literature About::: Beyond the code it found machine code, it was an economy thought.
[04:04] <Ranieri_> I'm curious on how apt-get works exactly.
[04:04] <sidharrell_> goliath, are you at the computer on your network, or the one trying to get in?
[04:05] <Bashing-om> Ranieri_: See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites .
[04:05] <spooky_action> I'm running into an issue trying to install ubuntu server 14.04 LTS, only a single drive is showing up in the installer. When I drop to the console and check dmesg both drives are detected there. I previously had NetBSD installed in a RAID1 setup on this system.
[04:05] <sidharrell_> Ranieri_, it looks at the sources list, downloads from them all lists of what packages are available
[04:06] <Ranieri_> Thanks Bashing-om
[04:06] <Ranieri_> sidharrell_: Yea, I understand that.
[04:06] <goliath> sidharrell_: I am on another machine on the network
[04:06] <sidharrell_> goliath, what are you using from outside to try to get in?
[04:07] <sidharrell_> like I have a couple servers out on the net I can ssh into, then turn around and try to ssh back in to my network on. goliath
[04:08] <hd> no problem.
[04:09] <goliath> sidharrell_: A computer
[04:10] <hd> Ubuntu Studio 14.10 still nicely.
[04:11] <spooky_user> still here, just switched clients
[04:12] <hd> just installed Google Chrome with success from Download\open with Software Center.
[04:13] <spooky_user> any ideas why the drives show up in dmesg but not the installer?
[04:14] <billybadbum> test
[04:15] <craigbass1976> I'm using ssh -Y me@otherbox firefox to start up firefox using the profile from that computer.  I also want to fire up firefox using the profile on this computer, but when I start it up, I'm still using the otherbox's profile.  Is there a way to have both of them open on this one computer?
[04:16] <hd> the experience was with Lubuntu and maybe Kubuntu for Chrominium, but Ubuntu Studio 14.10 installed Chome 40+
[04:17] <hd> in which internet quality by the know software are preserved.
[04:17] <Ben64> hd: do you have a support question? this channel isn't really for chatting
[04:18] <hd> i am providing support at the support channel, in which consists by User Experience.
[04:21] <azjo> Hi, how do i force chromecast on google chrome to SEE my chromecast? my phones works with it but chrome on windows refuses to do anything
[04:21] <spooky_user> would having the drives previously configured in RAID cause issues with the installer being able to detect them?
[04:23] <ubone> i put ubuntu 14-04 on a usb drive, now i need this drive for storage so i format it to fat32 with gparted but it is still bootable. how to remove the boot sector?
[04:25] <Ranieri_> I'm reading through the manuals... hardware devices are just files? Can someone explain how that works?
[04:25] <Ranieri_> And why?
[04:25] <spooky_user> ubone, http://serverfault.com/questions/419511/remove-mbr-from-usb-flash-drive-using-windows
[04:25] <Ben64> Ranieri_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything_is_a_file
[04:26] <Ranieri_> Thanks Ben64, great guide btw, thanks for sending
[04:26] <Ben64> google-fu
[04:26] <Bashing-om> spooky_user: Desk top install ? Then yes, the installer will not see raid's meta data .. IF a non raid install, then remove that meta data with the raid tool "sudo dmraid -E -r /dev/sda" // will have to get that tool from the repo .
[04:26] <Ranieri_> hahahah
[04:27] <pero> im troubleshooting some wireless issues and am about to update the firmware the my intel 7260 card in my laptop - however, dmesg reports a newer version than the one currently available from intel?
[04:29] <spooky_user> Bashing-om, can I grab the dmraid tool during the install with apt-get?
[04:30] <spooky_user> it's actually the server install for 14.04 LTS
[04:30] <derek_> hi
[04:30] <spooky_user> hello
[04:31] <hd> Hi
[04:31] <derek_> so what is this
[04:31] <Bashing-om> spooky_user: best remove the meta data from the liveDVD on all drives before trying to install .
[04:31] <ItzPacifica> Questu
[04:32] <hd> Chat acknowledge about Support systems
[04:32] <derek_> im so confused
[04:32] <ItzPacifica> Sorry... Failed at typing. Anyway, when,are they gonna release ubuntu touch??
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> !touch | ItzPacifica
[04:33] <Bashing-om> derek_: This is the support channel for the ubuntu operating system .
[04:33] <derek_> oh ok cool
[04:33] <derek_> so kinda like a self help?
[04:34] <hd> performed by the interpretations of human kind operations.
[04:34] <daftykins> well no 'cause if you helped yourself you'd not need to be here (:
[04:34] <derek_> true
[04:34] <daftykins> !br | hd
[04:35] <parsnip> quem nao sabe andar...
[04:35] <Bashing-om> derek_: More like coordinated fault isolation to restoration .
[04:35] <derek_> cool
[04:35] <derek_> totally new to this system
[04:36] <Bashing-om> !manual | derek_
[04:36] <derek_> thanks
[04:37] <hd> more like internet focused, not heavily programming software.
[04:37] <derek_> still trying to get both my monitors working at the moment
[04:39] <derek_> not working though
[04:40] <hd> yeah, my other computer had being dead by bios. was making my computer games very fine.
[04:40] <derek_> i have everything connected right just not getting anything to the second screen
[04:41] <uber_hulk> I broke xserver
[04:41] <uber_hulk> Is there a way to get it back?
[04:41] <spooky_user> what did you do? uber_hulk
[04:42] <uber_hulk> I think i installed a lot of instabel versions from debian
[04:42] <hd> Internet Computer is an madness business for constant webpages updates and propaganda. heard about wine or so but....madness.
[04:42] <spooky_user> ouch
[04:42] <uber_hulk> And kept breaking it
[04:42] <spooky_user> sounds messy
[04:42] <uber_hulk> Also now i can't go and pick each and every dependency one by one
[04:42] <uber_hulk> Yes too messy
[04:42] <uber_hulk> Dependency tree is broken
[04:43] <bazhang> uber_hulk, purge the ppa yet?
[04:43] <uber_hulk> bazhang: yeah that one i did
[04:43] <uber_hulk> But after that i kept installing drom debian
[04:43] <bazhang> uber_hulk, and you mixed debian repos with that too?
[04:43] <Ben64> uber_hulk: but you were just going to reinstall? do that instead of trying to fix it
[04:44] <Ranieri_> Can you shutdown a remote system?
[04:44] <uber_hulk> I am not sure, i have the disk encrypted. Will have to do that again. I forgot how to do that all. I haven't used linux for long time now
[04:45] <spooky_user> Ranieri_, yes
[04:45] <bazhang> uber_hulk, apt takes care of the dependencies, if you have debian repos and ppa's that sounds unresolvable
[04:45] <spooky_user> Ranieri_, do you have ssh access to it?
[04:45] <Ranieri_> spooky_user: how?
[04:45] <Ranieri_> no
[04:45] <spooky_user> any access?
[04:45] <Ranieri_> what does that mean
[04:45] <uber_hulk> bazhang: okay but if i had to install awesome wm 3.5+ how i would have done that
[04:45] <spooky_user> how do you propose to shut it down?
[04:46] <bazhang> !find awesome
[04:46] <Ranieri_> spooky_user: I wanna shutdown your system, for example.
[04:46] <spooky_user> shutdown -h now
[04:46] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install awesome awesome-extra
[04:47] <bazhang> !info awesome
[04:47] <Ranieri_> spooky_user: shutdown spooky_user -h now?
[04:47] <spooky_user> it worked!
[04:47] <daftykins> grow up, guys
[04:47] <Ranieri_> LOL
[04:48] <Ranieri_> sorry was just trying to be funny by acting stupid
[04:48] <spooky_user> Ranieri_, I really don't know what you're asking.
[04:48] <bazhang> uber_hulk, install v 3.4.15 from repos
[04:48] <Ranieri_> spooky_user: just playing around
[04:48] <ItzPacifica> ._.
[04:48] <uber_hulk> bazhang: but that is unstablr
[04:48] <spooky_user> ><
[04:48] <bazhang> uber_hulk, no it's not
[04:49] <uber_hulk> bazhang:  can you please try installing it if works for you?
[04:49] <hd> seems like piracy had being updated by production, focus then by others to play. a behave system?
[04:49] <uber_hulk> bazhang: 3.5.5
[04:49] <bazhang> uber_hulk, the unstable part is from all the debain/ppa you added
[04:50] <bazhang> hd please stay on topic, this is ubuntu support
[04:50] <Ranieri_> Okay, legit question: My laptop has no CD-drive, but it's running an older version of Ubuntu, I wanna upgrade it to the newest version. How would I do that?
[04:50] <uber_hulk> bazhang: so if you just install awesome it would install 3.4.11 by default
[04:50] <bazhang>  .15
[04:51] <daftykins> Ranieri_: which is it on now?
[04:51] <bazhang> what version Ranieri_
[04:51] <uber_hulk> bazhang: yeah and i wanted 3.5.5 :(
[04:51] <daftykins> "cat /etc/issue" or "lsb_release -d"
[04:51] <Ranieri_> Not sure.
[04:51] <bazhang> uber_hulk, why do you need that very newest unstable version
[04:52] <daftykins> Ranieri_: run one of the above two to find out.
[04:52] <bunbury> evening all
[04:52] <Ranieri_> Sounds good
[04:52] <daftykins> hi
[04:52] <uber_hulk> bazhang: because i have my configs ser for that :(
[04:52] <Ranieri_> Just booting it up daftykins
[04:52] <bunbury> does anyone know of a guide to get consolas fonts installed on ubuntu 14.04
[04:53] <bazhang> uber_hulk, well at this point of adding debian repos/ppa, you should backup and reinstall and stay inside the repos. lesson learned and then config again. otherwise you are just asking for more problems, and soon
[04:54] <uber_hulk> Hmm okay
[04:54] <bazhang> uber_hulk, you could do all of that within the next hour or so
[04:54] <spooky_user> ttyl
[04:55] <Ranieri_> daftykins: Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[04:55] <Ranieri_> daftykins: then the newline character, and \l... dunno what \l is
[04:56] <pero> im troubleshooting some wireless issues and am about to update the firmware the my intel 7260 card in my laptop - however, dmesg reports a newer version than the one currently available from intel. how is this possible?
[04:56] <bazhang> Ranieri_, is this desktop or server
[04:56] <daftykins> Ranieri_: waste of time, just backup and clean install. that's way too old, also if that's desktop, it's EOL - if it's server, it's EOL at the end of April
[04:56] <Ranieri_> desktop
[04:56] <bazhang> Ranieri_, time to upgrade as that is eol
[04:56] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | Ranieri_
[04:57] <Ranieri_> This HDD was from my grade 7 laptop
[04:57] <Ranieri_> How would I clean install, flash the OS onto a flash drive then boot from it?
[04:57] <daftykins> transfer, there is no flashing of data with flash drives :P
[04:57] <bazhang> too much flash
[04:57] <Ranieri_> Yea, how would I go about doing that
[04:57] <daftykins> if you want you could download 14.04.1 onto that 10.04 there and use it to write the image onto a flash drive.
[04:58] <Ranieri_> ^ yea that's perfect.
[04:58] <daftykins> download a 14.04.1 ISO then pop the flash drive in and come back when it's ready
[04:58] <Ranieri_> sounds good
[04:58] <daftykins> if there's any data you need, now would be the time to backup
[04:58] <Ranieri_> How do I format the USB drive?
[04:58] <bazhang> the installer will do that
[04:58] <daftykins> you won't need to
[04:58] <Ranieri_> Aww, no fun.
[04:59] <bazhang> gparted then if you wish
[04:59] <daftykins> what's fun about formatting a drive 0o
[04:59] <Ranieri_> daftykins: FUN FUN FUN FUN
[05:00] <Ranieri_> Formatting a drive is atleast equal to having sex on the pleasure scale.
[05:01] <hd> fun by reinstall the system, i more like to have a trash_compactor desktop folder at the Microsoft Windows production for easy delete.
[05:01] <daftykins> Ranieri_: inappropriate and childish.
[05:02] <Ranieri_> daftykins, yup that pretty much sums up me
[05:04] <bazhang> hd and Ranieri_ take that elsewhere please
[05:05] <hd> trash_compactor besides recycle bin, is a folder for downloads, random text files, temporary to use by slice image profiles, rar files to open, and workflow like that.
[05:05] <hd> oops.
[05:19] <Jack-zhang> Hello everybody. I use Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, I can get ipv6 address but I can not connect to network. I found that my computer get too much ip address. how can I set my system to use ppp0 address as default?
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> !ppp | Jack-zhang
[05:21] <Jack-zhang> thx
[05:21] <uber_hulk> Can i backup my firefox backup etc?
[05:21] <uber_hulk> I have xserver not working
[05:22] <daftykins> copy your ~/
[05:22] <Jack-zhang> n
[05:23] <Jack-zhang> what is !ppp mean?
[05:23] <uber_hulk> Okay thanks
[05:25] <cmdswitch> Jack-zhang: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point-to-Point_Protocol
[05:27] <uber_hulk> I have my ubuntu encrypted
[05:27] <uber_hulk> With encryptfs
[05:27] <uber_hulk> Can i use live usb to access that drive?
[05:28] <apb_> I have a .rar file I'd like to unrar...  ubuntu 14.04 ... any recommendations?
[05:29] <daftykins> apb_: yeah install... unrar.
[05:29] <cmdswitch> apb_ sudo apt-get install unrar; unrar x filename.rar
[05:29] <apb_> can't seem to find it
[05:29] <daftykins> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-cache search unrar
[05:30] <daftykins> !info unrar trusty
[05:30] <daftykins> you need the multiverse repo enabled
[05:30] <apb_> oh
[05:30] <uber_hulk> 10:57 AM <uber_hulk> Can i use live usb to access that drive?
[05:30] <apb_> ok, thank you
[05:32] <cmdswitch> uber_hulk: http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/
[05:45] <uber_hulk>  Thanks cmdswitch
[05:45] <CharlesIC> anyone using virtualbox?
[05:45] <uber_hulk> cmdswitch: can you also give me link to which method i should use to encrypt the disk while reinstalling
[05:45] <bob> Is there a guide on how to flash ubuntu phone on Amazon Fire phone/
[05:45] <uber_hulk> Also brtfs is now stable?
[05:46] <cmdswitch> uber_hulk: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+encrypt+during+installation
[05:47] <uber_hulk> Oho and what about brtfs?
[05:47] <uber_hulk> Or i may loose data in that?
[05:48] <cmdswitch> uber_hulk: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=brtfs+lose+data
[05:48] <cmdswitch> basically duck it or google it
[05:48] <uber_hulk> Sorry i am on phone now
[05:48] <uber_hulk> My system crashed no gui
[05:48] <cmdswitch> lynx it then
[05:49] <uber_hulk> Ok should see what linx is
[05:49] <daftykins> i don't think btrfs is a wise choice for you
[05:49] <uber_hulk> I see
[05:56] <electricprism> clear
[05:56] <electricprism> is anyone here using ubuntu on their phone already?
[05:56] <nomic> u thought u were in bash?
[05:58] <daftykins> electricprism: #ubuntu-touch is the channel for that, very inactive though. it's off topic here.
[06:05] <pero> im troubleshooting some wireless issues and am about to update the firmware for the intel 7260 card in my laptop - however, dmesg reports a newer version than the one currently available from intel. how is this possible?
[06:07] <cmdswitch> pero: try http://askubuntu.com/questions/331667/no-wireless-for-intel-corporation-7260-version-63 ?
[06:08] <pero> cmdshftn, my wireless works, just not very well - i believe this is a regression in last week's patch.
[06:08] <pero> i was about to attempt disabling N as suggested by http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=298985
[06:08] <pero> but thought i'd look into updating the firmware
[06:08] <cmdswitch> pero: sorry I don't deal with bleeding edge :(
[06:08] <pero> is 14.04 bleeding edge?
[06:09] <pero> ;)
[06:09] <cmdswitch> pero: the wireless driver you want
[06:09] <cmdswitch> pero: not the os
[06:09] <pero> dmesg lists version as <IP_ADDRESS> but intel has <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:09] <Ben64> where in dmesg does it say that
[06:10] <pero> [    2.747915] iwlwifi 0000:01:00.0: loaded firmware version <IP_ADDRESS> op_mode iwlmvm
[06:12] <cmdswitch> pero: http://askubuntu.com/questions/498567/intel-ac-7620-no-internet-still-connected-to-network ?
[06:12] <cmdswitch> try adding that to modprobe.d
[06:13] <cmdswitch> see if that makes a difference
[06:13] <pero> cmdshftn, yea thats the same solution
[06:13] <pero> i was just curious about the firmware
[06:13] <daftykins> cmdswitch: this query seems a bit more detailed than just your quick google searches provide :P
[06:13] <pero> i use wicd instead of network manager so it actually does say disconnected
[06:13] <cmdswitch> daftykins: I know :), I'm trying to get him to google it on his own :P
[06:14] <daftykins> by handing answers?
[06:14] <daftykins> that's not a very good method
[06:14] <pero> networkmanager does background scans every 2 minutes which completely lag my csgo
[06:14] <pero> are you guys talking about me?
[06:14] <pero> cause no one is actually answering my question
[06:14] <daftykins> correct
[06:15] <pero> wow the passive-aggressive is real
[06:15] <pero> i already had that solution as i stated before he did his googling
[06:15] <pero> some reading might help
[06:15] <daftykins> that's actually my point if you look closer
[06:15] <daftykins> i was saying you didn't need those links
[06:15] <pero> o
[06:16] <daftykins> please don't get like that in a volunteer channel, none of us owe you anything
[06:16] <cmdswitch> and my point is, I'm not going to try to find fixes to tweak your wireless card to get better performance
[06:16] <pero> well i did reread but am not getting that message from what you wrote
[06:16] <pero> cmdshftn, i never asked you to fix my wireless card
[06:16] <Ben64> cmdswitch: if you don't want to help, don't respond?
[06:17]  * cmdswitch shuts up
[06:17] <pero> i just asked why ubuntu has newer firmware than intel
[06:17] <pero> or if im misunderstanding the version numbers somehow
[06:23] <cmdswitch> for history: http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/iwlwifi/linux-firmware.git/commit/ && http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/iwlwifi/linux-firmware.git/commit/?id=571ad1ab9f6c85ba859387166f528a70ee1aa151
[06:24] <pero> cmdshftn, thanks but that's over my head heh
[06:25] <daftykins> use tab to complete nicknames, that one isn't even close
[06:26] <pero> im using tab - im just missing
[06:27] <pero> o well
[06:27] <pero> thx
[06:30] <atal421> quick question, i installed xubuntu on an old crappy 700m years ago. i want to donate my machine now but would like to wipe it clean first. how do i do this? haven't touched the machine in such a long time but whenever i try to do anything booting into the bios won't let me reset, and grub doesn't seem to offer a way to reformat either
[06:33] <daftykins> GRUB's a bootloader, not a system wipe tool
[06:33] <daftykins> atal421: what is a "700m" ?
[06:33] <atal421> daftykins: but it has access to the commandline. but yeah, i heary ou
[06:33] <atal421> Dell, cringe
[06:34] <atal421> all i want to do is either remove all traces of my name atal-inspiron-700m, i want atal gone
[06:34] <atal421> or just wipe it
[06:34] <atal421> i don't care about it
[06:35] <daftykins> i would personally boot a live session, dd zero the hard disk, then clean install
[06:36] <atal421> daftykins: even if this thing boots bios first?
[06:36] <daftykins> i don't really understand what you mean there
[06:37] <daftykins> you mean every power on it enters the BIOS setup rather than proceeding to boot from primary disk?
[06:39] <atal421> daftykins: no, you're right, it hits the dell boot system first (forgive my lack of terminology) where i can hit F10 or whatever to get into the bios, i can then wait a second and then hit shift to boot into grub, and then it boots like normal. if i recall the bios says USB -> optical drive -> hdd... but yes, it boots into xubuntu
[06:39] <daftykins> ok that's just the logo POST screen (power on self test)
[06:40] <daftykins> in that case *all* computers boot their BIOS/EFI first, since that's how they function ;)
[06:40] <lin> ...
[06:40] <lin> Hello...
[06:40] <daftykins> F12 is typically the one-time boot menu key on Dells, pop in a flash drive with xubuntu 14.04.1 on or a DVD, then boot from that to wipe it.
[06:40] <daftykins> lin: hi. got a support question?
[06:40] <atal421> daftykins: ha
[06:41] <atal421> daftykins: okay, i like where you're going
[06:41] <atal421> so here's my question
[06:41] <atal421> i already created a bootable img on a usb
[06:41] <atal421> no go
[06:41] <Ben64> yeah, basically you overwrite the entire drive with zeros and nobody can ever get the data off of it
[06:41] <atal421> it just black screens
[06:41] <cfhowlett> img????
[06:41] <atal421> interesting
[06:42] <atal421> so when i create a flash drive that's bootable, which file system am i creating it for?
[06:42] <daftykins> atal421: can this system boot from USB flash drive? what's the system you're typing from now?
[06:42] <atal421> FAT32 or the not windows option?
[06:42] <atal421> i'm on a mac right now
[06:42] <daftykins> ah. no idea on best methods of making a flash drive bootable from a mac
[06:42] <cfhowlett> atal421, .img is for booting macs, not dell
[06:42] <daftykins> but you'd just download a .ISO
[06:43] <daftykins> xubuntu and ubuntu come in ISOs
[06:43] <atal421> daftykins: not for a mac, for Dell that's now running xubuntu
[06:43] <atal421> right
[06:43] <daftykins> atal421: well you can download it on the Dell if you like :)
[06:43] <daftykins> then you can pop the flash drive in
[06:43] <atal421> i DL'ed the iso and then followed a tutorial on how to make it bootable for windows (making it on a mac)
[06:43] <daftykins> and we can give you a command to write the ISO to the flash drive to make it bootable
[06:44] <atal421> daftykins: that's sweet
[06:44] <atal421> is there a tutorial you can point me to?
[06:44] <atal421> i just want to wipe it, donate it, and move on
[06:44] <daftykins> we can do it step by step
[06:44] <daftykins> step 1 is downloading, wherebaouts in the world are you? (for me to pick a faster mirror)
[06:44] <daftykins> *whereabouts too
[06:44] <cfhowlett> .torrent
[06:44] <atal421> NYC
[06:45] <daftykins> any idea on the processor and RAM in the Dell?
[06:45] <daftykins> this is for deciding between 32-bit and 64-bit xubuntu
[06:45] <Ben64> wait if its just to wipe it, why ubuntu at all? can use anything
[06:46] <cfhowlett> indeed.
[06:46] <daftykins> Ben64: clean install after
[06:46] <Ben64> atal421: do you need to install ubuntu after?
[06:46] <daftykins> i imagine atal421 wants to donate it in a working state
[06:46] <daftykins> :>
[06:46] <atal421> Ben64: i'm installing ubuntu now apprently
[06:47]  * Ben64 backs out of the room, very confused
[06:47] <atal421> let me see, where's that info in here
[06:47] <atal421> ?
[06:47] <daftykins> you could enter the BIOS with F2 or F10 to read the RAM and CPU off
[06:47] <daftykins> or if it's booted... "free -m" or "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[06:47] <atal421> daftykins: i did, it's fine i think
[06:48] <atal421> let's say 512mb ram
[06:48] <atal421> 64gb hd
[06:48] <atal421> 1.8 processor
[06:48] <atal421> wow, old stuff
[06:48] <daftykins> wowzer, bit of a relic
[06:48] <daftykins> http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs-Xubuntu/14.04/release/xubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[06:48] <atal421> xubuntu is blazing fast on this though :)
[06:48] <daftykins> 32-bit it is
[06:48] <atal421> 32
[06:49] <atal421> i'm on my mac now
[06:49] <atal421> which links is it on the download page?
[06:49] <atal421> top or bottom
[06:49] <atal421> both are for 32bit
[06:49] <atal421> seem identical
[06:49] <atal421> ?!
[06:49] <daftykins> on xubuntu.org i clicked 'download now' bottom left
[06:50] <daftykins> then i picked United States
[06:50] <daftykins> then right at the bottom the 916MB file of -i386.iso
[06:51] <atal421> in this page the 916 is that top, but yeah, i just figured that out too :)
[06:51] <atal421> oh man, old machine
[06:52] <atal421> gonna go brush teeth or something :-/
[06:52] <daftykins> i'm almost unsure it'll even boot from USB
[06:52] <atal421> daftykins: agreed
[06:52] <atal421> so what should i do?
[06:52] <atal421> i just want to remove all personal info from it
[06:52] <daftykins> well it's worth a go
[06:52] <atal421> ha
[06:52] <daftykins> unless you have some blank DVDs
[06:53] <atal421> time == $$$
[06:53] <atal421> i could be doing better things, like programming :-)
[06:53] <atal421> 42min, i can't watch this
[06:53] <atal421> auggh
[06:53] <atal421> 57
[06:54] <atal421> daftykins: are you on here much?
[06:54] <daftykins> far too much
[06:54] <atal421> haha
[06:54] <daftykins> but there are many others too, so there's no need to consider just me
[06:54] <daftykins> plenty of friendly volunteers
[06:54] <atal421> ha, indeed
[06:54] <atal421> jsut hope others are as open
[06:55] <atal421> friendly
[06:55] <atal421> cool
[06:55] <daftykins> d'aww
[06:55] <atal421> i've come into a few rooms, man, i just got trashed
[06:55] <atal421> very rude
[06:55] <atal421> in any case
[06:55] <atal421> you're great, thaks for the help
[06:56] <daftykins> np :) you can do a bit of prep on the flash drive now if you like
[06:56] <atal421> i'll pop back in when this DL finishes
[06:56] <atal421> what do you mean?
[06:56] <atal421> btw, i already have the image DLed on this mac
[06:56] <atal421> did that earlier
[06:56] <atal421> created a bootable USB for win32
[06:56] <atal421> it failed to boot
[06:56] <atal421> jsut set there with a blinking white cursor
[06:57] <daftykins> if you ran "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then with the flash drive plugged in, run "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" that'll give me the info i need to make up the command to put the ISO on the drive
[06:57] <daftykins> ah, well you could've also SCP'd the file from your mac to the Dell i suppose, over the network
[06:57] <sidharrell> wow, just had apache crash on me: "[mpm_prefork:notice] [pid 1353] AH00169: caught SIGTERM, shutting down"
[06:57] <atal421> daftykins: indeed
[06:58] <atal421> it's alright, DLing now, i'll give this a go tomorrow
[06:58] <atal421> 2am
[06:58] <atal421> sleep
[06:58] <atal421> thanks for the help
[06:58] <atal421> night
[06:58] <daftykins> np o/
[07:17] <explodingmango1> noob here, is running "rmmod rt2800usb" supposed to immediately crash my machine or is something fishy here?
[07:17] <explodingmango1> ("modprobe -r rt2800usb" does the same. Both are run as root.)
[07:17] <NikolaiToryzin> Unloading kernel modules on a running system isn't normal
[07:18] <NikolaiToryzin> So crashing is to be expected if it was being used at all
[07:19] <jamesd> NikolaiToryzin: the theory is that its supposed to work but, its probably not tested all that often by meer users.
[07:20] <explodingmango1> jamesd: sounds about right. The instructions I'm following (to replace mac80211 module with a patched version) says to unload stuff, didn't know if there was some specific problem on my machine :/
[07:21] <explodingmango1> if you have any advice, say it quick cause I'm gonna crash my machine again, uh I mean I'm gonna try something else
[07:22] <explodingmango1> none? okay yolo
[07:24] <daftykins> lol.
[07:25] <daftykins> yep you only linux once
[07:32] <jamesd> ExtraCarpety: install your modules where they need to go, and reboot and pray it works right... i haven't had to do moduload/modload on linux in more that a decade.
[07:33] <jamesd> ^^^ explodingmango1
[07:36] <Gregor3000> i am still having sound issues. i ran into a Sabayaon wiki explaining how to lock the sound card to be default one. i thenwent to check what my alsa configuraiton is and simialr, btu i found no such file in ubuntu. the problem i have is that for some reason sometimes it doens' tinf d the sound chip or doesn't load the correct modules. osmetimes i can sovle this by reloading the modules. other times i can solve it by swithing to different
[07:36] <Gregor3000> output (e.g. from analog into digital), but too often i need to turn off the PC wait a bit and then turn it back on.
[07:40] <Gregor3000> this is the Sabayon wiki article i am refering to: https://wiki.sabayon.org/index.php?title=HOWTO:_Configure_ALSA_to_handle_a_USB_sound_card i couldn0t ifnd any /etc/modules.d/alsa in ubutnu
[07:42] <thecoolguy> Hello
[07:43] <daftykins> hi
[07:43] <thecoolguy> I"m trying to run cmake to compile openbabel but i keep getting the following erorrs. http://pastie.org/9856351
[07:43] <explodingmango> I'm back, all I had to do to prevent horrible crashing was unplug the USB dongle before unloading its driver, whoops
[07:44] <thecoolguy> What does it mean ? something is corrupted ?
[07:44] <thecoolguy> or dependancy is missing ?
[07:53] <daemi0n> Hi there!  I'm a brand new Ubuntu user and this seemed like a good place to come looking for tips and suggestions.
[07:53] <daemi0n> So, if you have any software suggestions or pages with tips, I'm all ears.
[07:54] <lee_> yes,it's good for newer
[07:54] <daemi0n> I have command line experience from the DOS days and limited experience with UNIX from coding on a MUD back when.
[07:54] <ztane> on my thinkpad, 14.10 I have started losing sound on suspend, vol control in tray does work, but alsamixer for example says that no mixer device available
[07:54] <thecoolguy> lee  any ideas ?
[07:54] <daemi0n> No Linux specific experience - I'm taking an edx course on Linux, though.
[07:55] <daemi0n> through the Linux foundation
[07:55] <ztane> daemi0n: man and info are the first commands you should know on command line :D
[07:55] <daemi0n> post-it ho!
[07:56] <sidharrell> never found much use for info
[07:56] <ztane> info only contains gnu programs yes, but
[07:57] <ztane> say for gcc, and libc it is much more complete along with code examples etc.
[07:57] <ztane> usually man is enough :D
[07:57] <jamesd> daemi0n: figure out something you want your system to do, and research it, and then make it do it...  i want an email of my disk space at 6am everymorning for example.
[07:58] <daemi0n> that seems like a reasonable way to approach it
[07:59] <daemi0n> i'm not interested in making my linux setup do a bunch of windows stuff, at least not right now - i'll just poke around and if i have more specific questions i'll rtfm and then ask here
[07:59] <thecoolguy> anyone have any ideas with my question ?
[07:59] <sidharrell> my best grizzled old timer impression: "I remember back when we used to have wireless problems so bad you had to compile from source! from a patch you had to search to find! You don't know how good you whipper-snappers have it!"
[07:59] <ztane> http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/ this for from 0 approach to unix command line
[07:59] <ztane> first find from google but seems reasonable
[08:00] <daemi0n> copper4lyfe
[08:00] <ztane> ah but it uses another shell :D
[08:00] <ztane> http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[08:02] <daemi0n> thanks ztane!
[08:09] <drager> When I start my computer I need to first type in a passpharse because of the crypt but I can't type anything in that input-box so I reboot my computer and the UI of Ubuntu changes (to less graphic) and then I can type in my passpharse. Running Ubuntu 14.10.
[08:15] <meganads> hm
[08:19] <EriC^^>  valkyr87 you there?
[08:36] <st3ven> Why is it when I type pico, it comes up with nano, and when I type nano it comes up with nano?
[08:38] <qiukun> what is happening to PPA now?
[08:38] <EriC^^> st3ven: cause it's symlinked to nano
[08:38] <qiukun> quite slow
[08:38] <st3ven> Oh okay EriC^^, thanks!
[08:38] <EriC^^> st3ven: no problem!
[08:43] <dw1> is it necessary or recommend to use xubuntu rather than hack the normal installation to run xfce?
[08:43] <dw1> recommended*
[08:43] <dw1> i guess thats why it exists.. it's not easy
[08:44] <EriC^^> dw1: what do you mean by hack the normal installation?
[08:44] <daftykins> it's not a hack
[08:44] <daftykins> go from unity -> xfce i think
[08:44] <EriC^^> dw1: you run sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:45] <dw1> say it's an underpowered system and you didnt want to run unity ever
[08:45] <EriC^^> install xubuntu-desktop, purge ubuntu-desktop
[08:45] <daftykins> well you'd have the foresight to download a xubuntu ISO wouldn't you :P
[08:45] <EriC^^> ^^ yeah
[08:45] <st3ven> Ctrl + Alt + T
[08:45] <st3ven> Type sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[08:46] <dw1> that easy eh EriC^^
[08:46] <dw1> well then screw xubuntu amirite
[08:46] <st3ven> Enter your password. Move your mouse to the very top right hand corner of the screen. Click on the last icon to the right there. Move your mouse down to Logout.
[08:46] <st3ven> (After it's installed, of course)
[08:47] <dw1> yea true, then prompt to do the package thing and reboot
[08:47] <st3ven> Then when you get to the login screen, if the installation went all well, at the top right hand corner of the box with your username and the password field in it, click the icon that looks like the Ubuntu logo.
[08:48] <st3ven> Select Xubuntu Desktop.
[08:48] <dw1> right just need to do the one package from terminal and reboot
[08:48] <st3ven> Proceed to login.
[08:48] <dw1> never need to hit unity
[08:48] <dw1> easy
[08:49] <dw1> yet a whole separate distro is justified haha
[08:49] <st3ven> Hint: You can also logout in Unity by pressing Control + Alt + Del, and clicking the Logout option in the effect that appears.
[08:50] <dm7freek> Is this command ubuntu-specific?     gsettings set org.compiz.core:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/core/ hsize 2
[08:51] <dw1> why would it be
[08:51] <EriC^^> dm7freek: you'd have to be using compiz i think, so yes
[08:51] <dw1> gsettings could run in a lot of places
[08:52] <dm7freek> EriC^^: thanks
[08:52] <dm7freek> dw1: gsettings is gnome-specific right?
[08:53] <dw1> i do not know enough to answer that. :)
[08:53] <EriC^^> dm7freek: no
[08:54] <dm7freek> EriC^^: lsb?
[08:54] <EriC^^> which releases it works with?
[08:56] <mmance> Is anyone else having problems with mdadm in 14.04.1?
[08:57] <mmance> I get my system installed and then after a package update or install, something changes, and when I reboot I get create user root not found
[09:00] <c0mrad3> I have some problem with my terminal when ever I type sudo it is not asking me the password and just doing the commad is it a privilage escalation bug ??
[09:01] <qiukun> c0mrad3, you could cat /etc/sudoers to check
[09:02] <c0mrad3> I have not modified it but it is not asking me to enter the password at all
[09:03] <c0mrad3> it is just doing the given command isn't it a bug or vulnerability or virus ??
[09:04] <qiukun> c0mrad3: if you have granted to sudo one time, then i wouldn't ask you again later within a certain time
[09:04] <qiukun> i -> it
[09:04] <daftykins> c0mrad3: so you're genuinely typing JUST "sudo" ?
[09:04] <c0mrad3> no I am not
[09:05] <c0mrad3> I have not typed the sudo in this session
[09:05] <daftykins> wat
[09:05] <qiukun> how do you guy stand the slow speed of ppa
[09:05] <daftykins> PPAs are third party repos, i don't use any
[09:05] <daftykins> so - i don't stand them being slow at all :D
[09:05] <EriC^^> c0mrad3: hey :p
[09:05] <EriC^^> c0mrad3: type sudo -l
[09:05] <qiukun> daftykins: well, cool
[09:06] <EriC^^> !ping
[09:06] <chipotle> where does a ppa put a sotware package i downloaded on my filesystem? i need to get into its directory...
[09:06] <chipotle> it's for sublime text
[09:06] <c0mrad3> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/YwCtujcx
[09:06] <EriC^> c0mrad3: hey :p
[09:06] <c0mrad3> @EriC^^
[09:06] <EriC^> ok
[09:06] <Ben64> chipotle: theres no way for us to know that
[09:07] <EriC^> c0mrad3: you've added NOPASSWD
[09:07] <chipotle> Ben64: um there isn't a central pace?
[09:07] <chipotle> *place
[09:07] <chipotle> so how do i find the file? with grep?
[09:07] <Ben64> chipotle: ppas are 3rd party repositories, they aren't supported here and can basically put a file anywhere
[09:07] <EriC^> c0mrad3: type sudo visudo , and remove the NOPASSWD line
[09:08] <chipotle> Ben64: how would i do a grep for the word "sublime""?
[09:08] <Ben64> chipotle: what are you actually trying to accomplish
[09:08] <qiukun> Ben64: maybe chipotle means the .deb
[09:08] <chipotle> i'm trying to create a symlink, but i need to know where sublime is located to do so
[09:08] <chipotle> qiukun: no, i don't
[09:08] <Ben64> symlink to what
[09:08] <c0mrad3> but I think that I have not added that line to this one @EriC^
[09:08] <chipotle> i mean the config files of the app
[09:08] <daftykins> chipotle: find / -name "*sublime*"
[09:08] <EriC^> c0mrad3: check /var/log/auth.log
[09:09] <st3ven> daftykins: Thanks for the parameter "-name"!
[09:09] <st3ven> Didn't know about that...
[09:09] <EriC^> for clues if somebody issued any command to /etc/sudoers , or ran visudo
[09:09] <EriC^> c0mrad3: also check /home/root/.bash_history
[09:09] <EriC^> */root/.bash_history
[09:09] <Ben64> st3ven: man find .... theres many fun switches
[09:10] <daftykins> i only kinda had my intro to 'find' from the edx.org intro course the other day
[09:10] <c0mrad3> I use zsh @EriC^  :P
[09:10] <daftykins> i'd always meant to give it a try, but sometimes reading the essay of a man page when just one shown example speaks a thousand words is far better
[09:11] <st3ven> !cookie > c0mrad3
[09:11] <st3ven> !cookie > c0mrad3
[09:11] <EriC^> c0mrad3: :P
[09:11] <st3ven> It didn't work :o
[09:11] <st3ven> I wanted to give him a cookie! :c
[09:12] <c0mrad3> I got it @ st3ven :P
[09:12] <st3ven> Yay! :D
[09:13] <qubic> i want to manually add  a python .py file to my pymodules folder but the folder says root access only. i logged in as root but i can't paste the file there (pip and github install blah don't work for this one things) so i'm doing it the roundabout way
[09:14] <c0mrad3> EriC^: where to remove the no password line ?? can you repeat it
[09:14] <EriC^> c0mrad3: type sudo visudo
[09:15] <c0mrad3> it's taking me to nano editor :( and I only use vim
[09:16] <c0mrad3> @EriC^
[09:18] <daftykins> just complete the task, don't whinge about the editor
[09:18] <Addi> hi
[09:18] <EriC^> c0mrad3: used to be able to change it with VISUAL=/usr/bin/vi or EDITOR=/usr/bin/vi
[09:19] <EriC^> c0mrad3: not working though
[09:19] <EriC^> c0mrad3: nano is easy, ctrl+o to save
[09:21] <EriC^> i think i know why
[09:22] <EriC^> not passing the env to sudo
[09:22] <EriC^> c0mrad3: yup, sudo bash -c 'EDITOR=vi visudo'
[09:24] <c0mrad3> is there a way to make my editor by default as vim ?? for the whole system ??
[09:24] <c0mrad3> also what was the line I deleted in case I don't want to be asked my password again :P
[09:25] <arun> guys, tried ubuntu 15?
[09:25] <c0mrad3> @EriC^
[09:25] <EriC^> c0mrad3: sudo mv /etc/alternatives/editor /etc/alternatives/editor.old
[09:26] <EriC^> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/vi /etc/alternatives/editor
[09:27] <EriC^> c0mrad3: c0mrad3 ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[09:27] <Addi> hi
[09:27] <knoppix_> hello world
[09:28] <Addi> does anyone here have a SMWCentral account
[09:30] <c0mrad3> !cookie > EriC^
[09:30] <daftykins> arun: unreleased versions are offtopic here, join #ubuntu+1
[09:30] <EriC^> c0mrad3: :D
[09:30] <c0mrad3> @EriC^ thanks for helping me out :D
[09:30] <EriC^> mafi !man2oushe ?
[09:30] <EriC^> lol
[09:31] <EriC^> c0mrad3: no problem :D
[09:31] <rao> guys how to setup samba server in ubuntu server??
[09:31] <daftykins> !samba
[09:32] <c0mrad3> seems like the bot is making ur job easier :P daftykins
[09:32] <daftykins> c0mrad3: drop the chatter please, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:32] <arun> thanks daftykins
[09:33] <rao> guys any alternating solution for file windows file share by using account or passowrd ??
[09:33] <daftykins> rao: yeah in the links above.
[09:33] <daftykins> very easy to setup password protected samba shares
[09:33] <daftykins> there must be half a million guides online
[09:34] <rao> i said alternating solution ??
[09:34] <rao> send me link
[09:34] <daftykins> alternating is a word meaning changing, perhaps you mean 'alternate' ?
[09:34] <daftykins> no, do some research for yourself :)
[09:34] <l9> does ubuntu have jail
[09:34] <EriC^> l9: ?
[09:34] <Vlayn> hi
[09:35] <rao> ya exactly
[09:35] <l9> EriC^: i am trying too jail a minecraft server but i cant really seem too find the jail
[09:35] <daftykins> sounds more like chroot lockdown
[09:36] <l9> daftykins: thanks :D
[09:36] <c0mrad3> rao: http://bit.ly/1yOtGmt
[09:37] <l9> old bsd mix up sorry :p
[09:38] <TheBigDeal> is there any solution to this bug here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1395580
[09:39] <daftykins> TheBigDeal: 15.04? off topic here, join #ubuntu+1
[09:39] <TheBigDeal> alright
[09:40] <l9> how hard it is too break out of a freenas vm
[09:41] <daftykins> freenas isn't on topic here
[09:41] <l9> whoops sorry
[09:46] <l9> on ubuntu running a vm how hard is it for users inside that vm too breakout? more on topic
[09:55] <divBy0> hi, does anybody know where to find documentation on the global config file for scite?
[09:55] <rileyp> hi my son has just installed ubuntu on his laptop and nends help with the wifi
[09:56] <rileyp> its a thinkpad x201i
[09:56] <basavaraj> hi
[09:56] <divBy0> rileyp: do you have the model# of the wifi adapter
[09:56] <basavaraj> ur name
[09:56] <basavaraj> no
[09:57] <basavaraj> anyone
[09:58] <divBy0> basavaraj: what's the question?
[09:58] <basavaraj> what is this?
[09:58] <divBy0> basavaraj: rEaLiTy
[09:59] <basavaraj> ur name divby0
[09:59] <divBy0> basavaraj: its a nickname for a chat service. this is a chat service. we are in a chatroom.
[09:59] <cbxyh> 各位好
[09:59] <basavaraj> ok
[10:01] <mutual> i'm trying to dual boot an encrypted ubuntu installation with another distro whose installer isn't detecting ubuntu, how do I do this?
[10:01] <daftykins> mix of EFI vs. legacy boot perhaps?
[10:01] <daftykins> you're going to have to ask the other distro for support.
[10:01] <divBy0> mutual: how are you trying now?
[10:02] <rileyp> iwlwifi ?
[10:02] <divBy0> iwconfig
[10:02] <basavaraj> any girl in chatroom?
[10:02] <divBy0> lol
[10:02] <stin> right
[10:03] <basavaraj> its a boring chatroom ya
[10:04] <mutual> divBy0, so far i just tried to install the other distro and it didnt detect ubuntu and i realized i probably need to do something first
[10:04] <divBy0> basavaraj: where did you find this room?
[10:04] <mutual> basavaraj, this is the ubuntu community support channel
[10:04] <basavaraj> ok thank u bye friends
[10:04] <divBy0> mutual: so did you finish the install of the second distro or did you stop when you saw it didnt recognize ubuntu?
[10:04] <mutual> divBy0, i stopped
[10:04] <mutual> divBy0, the only options were to manually resize or overwrite
[10:05] <mutual> divBy0, and i didn't want to manually resize without knowing what im doing
[10:05] <daftykins> mutual: so EFI vs legacy boot issue perhaps?
[10:05] <daftykins> of the second distro's media
[10:05] <mutual> daftykins, ELI5
[10:05] <daftykins> !efi | mutual go read here
[10:06] <mutual> daftykins, is this about the media i'm installing from?
[10:06] <mutual> daftykins, cause it's a usb
[10:06] <mutual> daftykins, i thought it was a problem with the ubuntu partition being encrypted
[10:07] <daftykins>  /boot probably won't be so i don't think so
[10:07] <mutual> daftykins, i'm trying to understand this article
[10:07] <daftykins> i don't think this is an ubuntu issue necessarily, go ask in the channel of the other distro about booting EFI vs. legacy
[10:07] <divBy0> mutual: what's the other distro? is your bios using uefi
[10:07] <mutual> daftykins, what exactly should i be doing?
[10:07] <mutual> divBy0, trisquel
[10:07] <daftykins> you're unwilling to read aren't you.
[10:07] <mutual> divBy0, for sh*ts and giggles
[10:07] <mutual> daftykins, no i am reading it
[10:07] <daftykins> nm i'll leave you to these other fine helpers.
[10:08] <divBy0> mutual: never heard of it. can you get into your bios and figure out if its running UEFI?
[10:08] <mutual> daftykins, ok thanks for taking the time to help
[10:08] <mutual> divBy0, i can try
[10:08] <mutual> divBy0, is that necessary?
[10:09] <mutual> divBy0, if it is, what would that imply? if it isn't, what would that imply?
[10:09] <divBy0> mutual: if you don't know, then yes
[10:09] <divBy0> mutual: it would mean your bios is communicating with your hard drive and booting business in a totally different way than legacy
[10:09] <mutual> divBy0, and usb is legacy?
[10:10] <divBy0> mutual: implications would be you have a totally different method of installation
[10:10] <divBy0> mutual: it could be, it could also be UEFI. need to get into the BIOS to check
[10:11] <divBy0> mutual: if you can get a windows installation running maybe on a live WinPE disk then you can go to disk management to check
[10:11] <mutual> divBy0, I found a command that supposedly determines whether the OS is booted from EFI or bios
[10:11] <mutual> divBy0, and it said BIOS
[10:11] <mutual> divBy0, if that doesn't cut it i can reboot and brb
[10:11] <divBy0> mutual: that sounds good, whats the command
[10:12] <mutual> if [[ -e /sys/firmware/efi/vars ]] || [[ -e /sys/firmware/efi/efivars ]]; then echo "booted from EFI"; else echo "booted from BIOS"; fi
[10:13] <divBy0> yea i dont know that might be right never seen it before but if your ubuntu is encrypted then you shouldnt be able to see it until after you install the other distro anyways
[10:13] <mutual> divBy0, oh really?
[10:13] <mutual> divBy0, oh that makes sense actually
[10:13] <mutual> divBy0, so how should i approach the install?
[10:13] <divBy0> mutual, can you just run trisquel live to test it first?
[10:14] <mutual> divBy0, yep it worked
[10:14] <mutual> divBy0, live usb worked
[10:14] <divBy0> then from cli or gui try to access the ubuntu partition and it should ask for credentials
[10:14] <mutual> divBy0, also I just confirmed my OEM doesn't use EFI
[10:14] <mutual> divBy0, oh how?
[10:14] <mutual> divBy0, will i have access to the filesystem?
[10:15] <Unknown0BC> I have an sd card slot on my Ubuntu laptop, when I copy from it I get transfer rates of 16.6MB/s is that not to slow ?
[10:15] <divBy0> i don't know the exact commands for cli but you can google how to mount a drive its pretty basic
[10:15] <mutual> divBy0, and once i mount it then what?
[10:15] <divBy0> from gui just go to whatever the file explorer and look for the ubuntu parttion and see if you can open it
[10:15] <divBy0> it should ask you for the password
[10:15] <mutual> divBy0, right so then you're saying the installer will recognize it?
[10:16] <mutual> divBy0, also how could i do that if it's encrypted?
[10:16] <divBy0> no, the os will. it will forget after the session ends. why do you need the installer to see it?
[10:17] <divBy0> Unknown0BC: seems normal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Speeds
[10:17] <mutual> divBy0, if the installer doesn't see it how will i install it side by side with ubuntu?
[10:17] <divBy0> mutual, on its own partitions
[10:17] <Unknown0BC> oh ty divBy0
[10:18] <mutual> divBy0, how?
[10:18] <no_gravity> Good Morning! What is a good way to tell my Ubuntu machine to turn off all fans of my desktop pc, if possible?
[10:18] <mutual> divBy0, and doesn't that mean i will have to manually resize the partitions? since the ubuntu partition is currently all of the disk?
[10:18] <mutual> no_gravity, why would you want to turn off all fans?
[10:18] <no_gravity> mutual: silence
[10:19] <mutual> no_gravity, you realize they're there for a reason right?
[10:19] <divBy0> lol
[10:19] <divBy0> just unplug them
[10:19] <no_gravity> mutual: maybe. i have doing so on all my machines for 10 years or so. nothing every broke. and if something brakes, it would not hurt me much.
[10:19] <mutual> no_gravity, disabling your computer's fans is like removing a radiator from your car
[10:20] <no_gravity> mutual: everytime i have a new machine i google around for fancontrol and sensors and whatnot until that thing is silent
[10:20] <mutual> alrighty
[10:20] <no_gravity> mutual: difference is that a broken machine would not hurt me
[10:21] <no_gravity> if i cannot get the machine silent, i would not use it anyhow.
[10:21] <mutual> no_gravity, that's ridiculous
[10:21] <mutual> divBy0, do i need to manually repartition?
[10:21] <no_gravity> mutual: how?
[10:22] <mutual> no_gravity, you're refusing to use a luxury because of a tiny inconvenience
[10:22] <bekks> mutual: Whats the actual issue?
[10:22] <divByz0> lol
[10:22] <mutual> bekks, trying to install another distro alongside an ubuntu encrypted partition that isn't detected by the other distro's installer
[10:23] <no_gravity> mutual: i would, but it did not happen yet. one way or the other i got all machines silent
[10:23] <mutual> bekks, and gparted scares me :P
[10:23] <divByz0> mutual: you need to have separate partitions
[10:23] <bekks> mutual: There is nothing you can do about it - because it is encrypted, it cant be detected without being decrypted.
[10:23] <no_gravity> mutual: just not sure if pwmconfig and all that shit is the right way to go these days
[10:23] <mutual> divByz0, i know, i don't know how
[10:23] <no_gravity> havent done it for some time
[10:23] <divByz0> mutual: do you have any free space to play with
[10:23] <mutual> divByz0, yes, inside the ubuntu partition
[10:24] <mutual> bekks, so i can't dual boot?
[10:24] <bekks> mutual: inside the ubuntu partition is not "having free space for another partition".
[10:24] <mutual> bekks, that's what i thought
[10:24] <mutual> so it's impossible
[10:24] <mutual> ?
[10:24] <bekks> mutual: You have to install the other OS first, on a separate partition, then install Ubuntu.
[10:24] <mutual> bekks, so without overwriting ubuntu it's impossible?
[10:25] <bekks> mutual: And you will have to use the Ubuntu bootloader, not the bootloader of the other distro.
[10:25] <mutual> bekks, if it is that's fine
[10:25] <mutual> bekks, my desire is to install this distro alongside ubuntu by using some of the free space within this partition by modifying the partitions
[10:25] <mutual> bekks, if this is impossible, then ok
[10:25] <mutual> bekks, i just want to know if it's possible
[10:26] <EriC^^> mutual: i think you can resize with gparted, not sure
[10:26] <mutual> EriC^^, is that risky? and does it matter that it's encrypted?
[10:26] <bekks> EriC^^: you cant resize am encrypted partition.
[10:26] <divByz0> mutual: free space to play with is unallocated unpartitioned unformatted disk space
[10:26] <mutual> divByz0, bekks covered that, thanks
[10:26] <bekks> mutual: It heavily does matter that you encrypted your Ubuntu.
[10:26] <bekks> mutual: You cannot resize that easy.
[10:26] <mutual> bekks, not easily or not at all? ;)
[10:27] <mutual> gparted scares the bejeezus out of me
[10:27] <EriC^^> mutual: read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[10:27] <mutual> EriC^^, thanks
[10:27] <EriC^^> mutual: no problem
[10:28] <mutual> EriC^^, if i did this somehow and then went back to installing the other distro after making an empty partition out of the free space, would it detect that partition?
[10:28] <EriC^^> mutual: yes grub should find it
[10:28] <mutual> EriC^^, but would the installer in the other distro?
[10:29] <EriC^^> mutual: i think so
[10:29] <mutual> hmm ok
[10:30] <mutual> seems like a bit of a chore to resize
[10:30] <mutual> i may do it anyways though
[10:30] <mutual> idk
[10:32] <EriC^^> mutual: why do you want it unencrypted?
[10:32] <mutual> EriC^^, when did I say that?
[10:32] <divByz0> mutual: i've always found it easier to just back everything up and start from scratch
[10:32] <EriC^^> mutual: ok
[10:32] <mutual> EriC^^, did you mean why do I want it encrypted?
[10:33] <divByz0> anyone know where to find documentation on SciTe global configs?
[10:33] <mutual> divByz0, i may do that in the future
[10:33] <EriC^^> mutual: nevermind
[10:36] <theone1> people, can someone assist me in formatting a 2TB external HDD on ubuntu? i cannot seem to be able to do it
[10:37] <divByz0> theone1: how are you trying?
[10:37] <theone1> divByz0: i use the disks app
[10:38] <divByz0> theone1: try $ sudo apt-get install gparted
[10:39] <theone1> divByz0: ok installed, how do I start it?
[10:40] <divByz0> it should be in your applications just press the win key
[10:40] <divByz0> or from terminal $ sudo gparted
[10:41] <theone1> got it, ok what should i do, i just want to simply format the HDD to use its space
[10:41] <divByz0> did it detect the disk already?
[10:41] <theone1> yes, but it has a grey bar on the top saying unallocated
[10:42] <divByz0> theone1: do you know what file system you want to format it as
[10:42] <theone1> divByz0: no, something standard for ubuntu to add large files into it, i know FAT does not support large files
[10:44] <divByz0> ext4
[10:44] <Luyin> perhaps he should just format it via mkfs
[10:44] <theone1> what is mkfs?
[10:45] <Luyin> theone1: man mkfs
[10:45] <bekks> theone1: you dont need to format anything to install Ubuntu.
[10:45] <theone1> Luyin: bekks i am not going to install ubuntu, i am using ubuntu
[10:45] <divByz0> theone1, first you have to initialise the disk in gparted
[10:46] <divByz0> theone1, in gparted menu, partition, new partition table
[10:46] <bekks> theone1: you need to create a partition using gparted, and format it using gparted.
[10:46] <theone1> divByz0: i get an error message saying: No partition table found on device /dev/sdc
[10:47] <bekks> theone1: you need to create a partition using gparted, and format it using gparted.
[10:47] <cfhowlett> theone1, theone1 upper right hand screen, select your hard drive.  usually /dev/sda
[10:48] <theone1> cfhowlett: yes selected
[10:48] <bekks> theone1: select the correct disk, and double check it :)
[10:49] <theone1> bekks: yes double checked :-) 2TB /dev/sdc says unallocated
[10:51] <theone1> isn't there a simple way to format an external HDD like in windows or mac? :-) just press format and it formats?
[10:51] <cfhowlett> theone1, gparted.  select device to be partitioned and click
[10:51] <cfhowlett> theone1, wait ... EXTERNAL??
[10:52] <theone1> cfhowlett: yes
[10:52] <bekks> theone1: gparted is the easy way.
[10:52] <divByz0> theone1, did you get the link i sent you
[10:52] <bekks> theone1: are you going to use that drive with windows/mac?
[10:52] <divByz0> step by step with pics simple
[10:52] <theone1> divByz0: sorry did not get the link
[10:53] <divByz0> theone1, http://www.sitepoint.com/ubuntu-12-04-lts-precise-pangolin-using-gparted-to-partition-a-hard-disk/
[10:54] <cfhowlett> theone1, proceed carefully.  installing the OS on an external is a bit tricky.  Why not install on the internal drive?
[10:54] <bekks> cfhowlett: he does not want to install :)
[10:54]  * cfhowlett exits and goes back to lurking
[10:55] <divByz0> cfhowlett, i dont think hes installing an os on there hes just trying to format it
[10:55] <divByz0> or she...
[10:56] <theone1> cfhowlett: i am not installing ubuntu in an enternal drive, i want to use the HDD normally, i also want to learn how to format on ubuntu because it seems it is a bit complicated than on windows and mac
[10:56] <theone1> divByz0: what partition table should i use?
[10:56] <bekks> theone1: It is not more complicated. In Windows, you have to create a partition before, too.
[10:56] <divByz0> theone1, what are your options
[10:57] <bekks> theone1: For a 2TB drive, use MBR.
[11:00] <theone1> divByz0: aix, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, msdos, pc98, sun, loop
[11:01] <bekks> theone1: use "msdos".
[11:01] <divByz0> agreed, msdos
[11:01] <theone1> bekks: divByz0 ok working
[11:01] <bekks> theone1: did you create a partition as well? :)
[11:02] <theone1> bekks: working on it now, which file system is best? ext 2 or 3 or 4?
[11:02] <bekks> theone1: are you going to use that disk with windows/mac too?
[11:02] <theone1> no
[11:02] <theone1> just ubuntu
[11:02] <divByz0> theone1, i would do ext4
[11:03] <bekks> theone1: Then use ext4.
[11:03] <theone1> what if i want mac and win?
[11:03] <Ben64> windows can read ext4 with an additional driver you can download
[11:03] <Ben64> mac does silly stuff, who knows
[11:03] <theone1> haha
[11:04] <bekks> theone1: Then you will cry after realizing that windows/mac cant read ext4 :)
[11:04] <theone1> haha
[11:04] <Ben64> windows can read/write ext4 with that driver, easy
[11:05] <Giwrgaras> hi, if i've got ubuntu in a dual boot computer. I now want to uninstall the windows that i have to install another version. Will this affect my linux dual boot installer?
[11:05] <divByz0> anyone here understand eof formatting?
[11:05] <Ben64> Giwrgaras: install another version of windows?
[11:05] <Giwrgaras> 7 > 8
[11:06] <bekks> Giwrgaras: "Yes."
[11:06] <Ben64> yeah, windows installs always break the bootloader
[11:06] <cfhowlett> Giwrgaras, windows will write over your grub bootloader.  after installing windows, reinstall grub
[11:06] <bekks> Giwrgaras: you need to use UEFI/GPT because Windows 9 cannot be installed on MBR.
[11:06] <divBy0> no, it certainly can't :P
[11:07] <godbod>  Hello all, I have a PC with a graphic card on board, and a nvidia card, is it possible to set a primary display so that at boot the progress bar is display on the nvidia card (main screen) instead of on the intel card?
[11:07] <Giwrgaras> so id better stay with another 7 installation bekks
[11:07] <Giwrgaras> if its difficult to dual boot with win 8.1
[11:08] <divBy0> it was easy for me
[11:08] <divBy0> you can disable uefi and just go mbr
[11:08] <Ben64> pretty sure windows 8 can be installed in mbr
[11:08] <divBy0> in the bios turn on legacy boot
[11:08] <cfhowlett> Giwrgaras, not difficult.  just requires actual thought
[11:08] <divBy0> yes thats what im running now
[11:08] <divBy0> 8.1 mbr with ubuntu
[11:08] <ubuntuser13> godbod: you can change the primary adapter settings in bios.
[11:08] <Giwrgaras> i am incapable of that cfhowlett
[11:08] <divBy0> lol :)
[11:08] <godbod>  ubuntuuser13 : I did that actually, but the behavior is still the same
[11:09] <godbod>  it's like the intel card always takes on the nvidia card
[11:09] <Ben64> yep, google confirms it. can boot from mbr as long as its legacy, can't have uefi and mbr
[11:09] <godbod>  isn't it here a kernel configuration ?
[11:10] <Ben64> do you need both cards
[11:10] <godbod>  Yes
[11:10] <godbod>  I do
[11:10] <bekks> godbod: Do yu have an Optimus chipset or just a Intel CPU with integrated graphics, and an external PCIE nvidia GPU?
[11:10] <Ben64> then set primary like ubuntuser13 suggests
[11:10] <divByz0> godbod, do you have compiz manager installed?
[11:10] <divByz0> godbod, there is a setting in there that lets you choose which display to prefer
[11:10] <ubuntuser13> godbod:  i think you plugged your display in nvidia graphic card, not in your motherboard.
[11:11] <divByz0> godbod, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[11:11] <bekks> godbod: you need to know wether you have an Optimus configuration or just a dual-GPU configuration.
[11:11] <godbod>  I have a Intel CPU with an integrated graphics, and an external nvidia card accessed on DVI
[11:11] <divByz0> godbod, sudo ccsm
[11:11] <bekks> godbod: So disable the Intel GPU in the BIOS and use the Nvidia GPU.
[11:12] <embik> hello everyone, does anybody know _anything_ about accountsservice or knows someone I could ask about that? the documentation is a pita and cannot even find the source code for the "language-tools" which are provided by it
[11:12] <godbod>  no dual GPU
[11:12] <divByz0> godbod, from within ccsm, general options/display settings/overlapping output handling
[11:12] <divByz0> godbod, http://askubuntu.com/questions/568438/how-to-make-the-right-hand-monitor-the-primary-monitor
[11:12] <godbod>  okay, I will try this on
[11:13] <godbod>  but
[11:13] <divByz0> embik, what's pita
[11:13] <divByz0> oh nm
[11:13] <divByz0> :P
[11:13] <godbod>  at boot, I don't think compiz is already running
[11:13] <godbod>  so that's up to the kernel
[11:14] <Ben64> not exactly, it fires up whatever display gets detected as 'working' first
[11:14] <divByz0> godbod, that's the next thing i would try. how is it behaving now
[11:19] <godbod>  When it boots, the progress bar is still displayed on the intel card, and then at login, the primary display is set to the nvidia card
[11:19] <Ben64> yep so change it in the bios
[11:19] <godbod>  I did
[11:20] <Ben64> then you're out of options
[11:20] <MACscr> should using 'net.ipv6.conf.all.autoconf = 0' remove existing auto ipv6 crap as well after a reboot? not a fan of this auto ip stuff. If i dont configure it in network/interfaces, i dont want it!
[11:21] <Ben64> MACscr: what exactly is happening that you don't want
[11:21] <MACscr> Ben64: all kinds of autogenerated ipv6 entries on all my interfaces
[11:21] <daftykins> link local IPv6 by the sounds of it.
[11:21] <MACscr> some interfaces have 6 ip's
[11:22] <MACscr> and i havent configured any yet
[11:22] <godbod>  In the bios there's a set primary display PEG, PCI
[11:22] <Ben64> MACscr: what is the first section of the ipv6 address
[11:22] <daftykins> that's not really how v6 works :>
[11:22] <MACscr> i do want to eventually use it, but if i do, its going to be specified int he network/interfaces file
[11:22] <godbod>  with options Auto, enabled, disabled.
[11:22] <godbod>  I tried all the options
[11:23] <godbod>  I tried : PEG enabled, and PCI enabled, same behavior
[11:23] <MACscr> Ben64: 2601:d:c800:de3:
[11:24] <MACscr> and some are fe80::2a0:d1ff
[11:24] <Ben64> MACscr: fe80 is link local, those should always be there
[11:24] <Ben64> MACscr: did you know though, that you're here in irc currently on ipv6
[11:24] <MACscr> why?
[11:25] <daftykins> i feel like we're all starring in Inception 2
[11:25] <MACscr> Ben64: yes, on my mac at my house. Has nothing to do with my colo'ed servers
[11:25] <Ben64> MACscr: i'm not sure what that has to do with your server
[11:26] <MACscr> im stating that the fact that im using ipv6 here at home has nothing to do with my ubuntu systems that the original question is about
[11:27] <daftykins> perhaps you're trying to say you're running IRC from a dedi and not at home?
[11:27] <Ben64> you said nothing about servers till the previous line, how am i supposed to know what computer the question is regarding
[11:28] <Ben64> anyway, don't mess around trying to disable ipv6. its quite a silly thing to do. if you don't want dhcp, then don't use it, simple as that
[11:28] <MACscr> Ben64: why does it matter what computer im asking about? The question is still the same either way
[11:28] <MACscr> i dont want to disable ipv6. i want to disable any type of auto assign junk that is happening
[11:28] <Ben64> because you're being very confusing talking about servers and home with no reference at all
[11:29] <Celine> Bonjour, hi, is there someone online ?
[11:29] <cfhowlett> !ask | celexi
[11:29] <cfhowlett> Celine, ^^^
[11:29] <MACscr> Ben64: the only reason we started talking about home is because you felt the need to point out that i was using ipv6 to connect to irc. Which had pretty much zero to do with my questions or concerns
 Ben64: 2601:d:c800:de3:
[11:30] <Ben64> same ipv6 you're connecting from
[11:30] <lalala> hello everyone!
[11:30] <MACscr> correct. I just gave an example
[11:30] <celyne> Bonjour, hi, is there someone online ? I have a huge problem with a raid6 shutdown during reshape.
[11:30] <Ben64> since it doesn't seem you want to make any sense, I must excuse myself from this madness
[11:30] <cfhowlett> celyne, again ... ASK
[11:30] <Gregor3000> hello, even with file manager run in root i can not change the icon on this "shortcut". thi sis the error i get: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2uTW36AgbQza3ZHMVpsVXN1NkE/view?usp=sharing
[11:31] <daftykins> MACscr: don't show attitude toward those that try to help you.
[11:32] <Ben64> Gregor3000: be very careful running gui applications as root, using "sudo" with them is asking for trouble. paste the output of "ls -l /home/tatie/Desktop/SKYPE.desktop"
[11:32] <MACscr> daftykins: you are correct and my apologies. Its just the fact that i was told i was giving confusing information when I wasnt the one making assumptions. My question is quite clear IMHO. How do I disable any type of auto assigning of IPv6 ip addresses
[11:33] <celyne> sorry cfhowlett , here the thread, it may be easyeer to explain, http://forums.openmediavault.org/index.php/Thread/7377-HELP-shutdown-in-middle-of-expand-reshape-a-raid6/
[11:36] <Gregor3000> -rwxrwxrwx 1 tatie tatie 419
[11:36] <daftykins> MACscr: we have to assume when we don't get a full picture. i've no idea on this one unfortunately
[11:39] <MACscr> daftykins: no problem. I get what you were saying. Its just the fact that im using it really had no bearing on my question and honestly didnt need to even be known. Just wasnt relevant.
[11:40] <MACscr> i will start doing some googling as i dont know enough about ipv6 honestly
[11:40] <daftykins> there's no place like ::1
[11:40] <MACscr> i just dont like network addresses on my systems that i havent assigned myself
[11:49] <Gregor3000> Ben64: -rwxrwxrwx 1 tatie tatie 419
[11:52] <godbod>  Bye everyone!
[11:56]  * dearcarr0t leave
[12:03] <samuel_> was geht
[12:04] <ablest1980> hi
[12:06] <pa> whats the channel for the next ubuntu?
[12:07] <EriC^^> #ubuntu+1
[12:07] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1
[12:07] <divBy0> anyone use bleachbit?
[12:07] <home> hi
[12:07] <Bundestrojaner> hi
[12:07] <home> I've a problem
[12:08] <home> when I opened portable app
[12:08] <home> it didnot open
[12:08] <home> and said this in terminal
[12:08] <home> error while loading shared libraries: libfuse.so.2: cannot open shared object file:
[12:08] <daftykins> !info fuse-utils
[12:08] <Bundestrojaner> home: no "no such file or directory"?
[12:09] <daftykins> !info libfuse2
[12:09] <Bundestrojaner> i run kubuntu 14.4 lts (64bit). How can i get libxft.so.2 (i think it's a 32bit lib)
[12:09] <Bundestrojaner> apt-cache search doesn't find it
[12:10] <daftykins> that's a file name, Bundestrojaner - you can't apt-cache search a file. apt-file however...
[12:10] <home> what command i can type to solve this
[12:10] <home> I'm not expert
[12:11] <Bundestrojaner> daftykins: thx, i'll try that :)
[12:11] <OerHeks> home what app? maybe there is a manual or howto about it
[12:11] <daftykins> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libfuse2"
[12:11] <daftykins> home: worth a try ^
[12:11] <home> libfuse2 is already the newest version.
[12:12] <bazhang> File libfuse.so found in libfuse-dev, libfuse2
[12:12] <daftykins> home: you might want to share what these 'portable apps' are
[12:12] <OerHeks> 32 bit portable app on a 64 bit system?
[12:12] <home> Portable Plants Vs Zombies for Linux OS by TopLinuxApps.com.run
[12:12] <home> 64bit
[12:13] <daftykins> that doesn't sound official 0o
[12:14] <daftykins> nor especially legal, but ho-hum
[12:14] <home> it's from TopLinuxApps.com
[12:14] <javnut> hey, my system monitor has like 10 processes with no name
[12:14] <javnut> the PIDs seem to be switching really fast
[12:14] <javnut> what is this?
[12:14] <home> my portable app
[12:15] <home> "Portable Plants Vs Zombies for Linux OS by TopLinuxApps.com.run"
[12:15] <OerHeks> home, that site gives a howto http://www.toplinuxapps.com/2014/03/procedure-to-run-linux-software-and.html
[12:15] <OerHeks> home dunno if those packages are clean, nor official
[12:15] <Bundestrojaner> daftykins: apt-file finds libxft in libxft2, but apt-get tells me it's already installed. i guess i need the 32 bit version...
[12:16] <Bundestrojaner> how can i get it?
[12:16] <bazhang> !find zombie
[12:16] <Bundestrojaner> !find mh370
[12:16] <Bundestrojaner> well, it was worth a try...
[12:17] <daftykins> that's utopic, you said 14.04 ?
[12:17] <Bundestrojaner> daftykins: yeah, kubuntu 14.04 lts 64bit
[12:17] <daftykins> poor plane :(
[12:17] <home> ok i'll try >> thanks
[12:17] <daftykins> i don't really understand the whole 32-bit packages thing. usually i see peeps install package:i386
[12:18] <kanhiay> who could help me to get a 3G Modem working in  Linux. I am using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and it hasn't detected it in Mobile Broadband Network manager. output of LSUSB command is Bus 003 Device 002: ID 19d2:1007 ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM
[12:18] <kanhiay>  # It is of vodafone and it is quite OLD , hence it should be working in latest OS. Anybody, please help
[12:18] <Bundestrojaner> daftykins: i try to install eagle5.6.0, it's a 32bit app
[12:18] <daftykins> yeah that means nothing to me
[12:19] <Bundestrojaner> daftykins: it's not oss, so i can't compile it for 64bit
[12:19] <Guest19684> ???
[12:21] <OerHeks> Bundestrojaner, eagle cad? there is a newer version in the repos >>https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eagle/6.5.0-1
[12:22] <kanhiay> nobody is here who could help me configuring an old modem
[12:22] <Bundestrojaner> OerHeks: right, but my license is only for eagle 5. i got it from my school
[12:22] <bazhang> kanhiay, ##hardware
[12:22] <bazhang> kanhiay, thats not an ubuntu supported item
[12:23] <milad01100> I can't read some DVDs. Some music DVDs I mean. I think it's because of some files with non-english name. How can I read them?
[12:23] <bazhang> milad01100, install the correct language packages
[12:23] <kanhiay> bazhang: Modems are not supported by Ubuntu
[12:24] <bazhang> kanhiay, to use with ubuntu? or just general use
[12:24] <milad01100> bazhang: How?
[12:24] <ad_> hi all, have an ecryptfs mounted directory which all works perfectly, except cannot execute files.  All exec bits are set and ownership good.  Could it be a mount option?
[12:24] <bazhang> what language milad01100
[12:24] <milad01100> bazhang: Persian.
[12:24] <kanhiay> bazhang: I want to use a Vodafone 3G modems, which is working flawless in windows but not working in Ubuntu
[12:24] <bazhang> milad01100, apt-cache search persian
[12:25] <kanhiay> bazhang: wirelss modesm,  it is a general use item,
[12:25] <bazhang> kanhiay, much more useful info, please include in future posts here
[12:25] <bazhang> kanhiay, is that a usb modem
[12:26] <kanhiay> yes, it is
[12:26] <kanhiay> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 19d2:1007 ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM
[12:26] <bazhang> kanhiay, like a usb dongle type thing
[12:26] <kanhiay> output of lsusb is given above
[12:26] <ad_> aha user option in fstab, so need to set exec explicitly :)
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:27] <milad01100> bazhang: I can't fine anything about "package" related to my problem. Is this the one I'm looking for?: "language-pack-fa - translation updates for language Persian"
[12:27] <OerHeks> kanhiay, a little investigation learns me this > http://zeroset.mnim.org/2015/01/13/19d22000-19d20117-zte-wcdma-technologies-hsdpa-modem-on-ubuntu-14-10/  create a Create a file in /etc/modprobe.d/usb-storage.conf   etc & reboot
[12:28] <kanhiay> OerHeks: i am using Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[12:28] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1600325 kanhiay got usb mode switch?
[12:28] <ablest1980> everyone getting an update?
[12:28] <kanhiay> yes
[12:28] <OerHeks> kanhiay, might work too, if it fails, that file is easily deleted
[12:29] <daftykins> ablest1980: to what?
[12:29] <ablest1980> ubuntu
[12:29] <ablest1980> software updater
[12:30] <bazhang> milad01100, when I say language pack, I simply meant package, that may well be the one, and it may draw in other useful packages as well
[12:30] <daftykins> !details | ablest1980
[12:30] <ablest1980> im ok daftykins ty anyway
[12:30] <ablest1980> :)
[12:31] <daftykins> ablest1980: ok, complete questions in future please
[12:31] <ablest1980> ok
[12:35] <milad01100> bazhang: I can't still read the DVD. I'm still seeing some music files with chinese names. It's weird. It's a 3.5GB DVD. but those weird files are just 18MB that aren't anything and I can't open them.
[12:36] <bazhang> milad01100, what format are those weird files you speak of
[12:36] <milad01100> bazhang: MP3
[12:37] <bazhang> milad01100, open wiht what, and did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras yet
[12:39] <milad01100> bazhang: These are some weird files with names like "䭏啃䡅䡟⹍倳㬱" instead of the actually files. ee, no. I haven't installed it yet.
[12:41] <bazhang> milad01100, install it, thats the key to listening to mp3, video etc
[12:42] <bazhang> milad01100, do the chinese characters all show correctly? or just strange boxes
[12:43] <milad01100> bazhang: I don't know. Honestly I don't know if they are chinese. They just seem they are like chinese or japanese. It IS strange.
[12:44] <bazhang> milad01100, first lets get the mp3 playing abiiltiy
[12:44] <bazhang> ability too
[12:44] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:46] <milad01100> bazhang: Ok. I think It's the solution. I can't install it now. I'll install it later. Thanks.
[12:47] <bazhang> welcome
[12:54] <l_r> hello
[12:54] <l9> lo
[12:54] <l_r> what is the name of the virtual keyboad
[12:54] <l_r> keyboard
[12:55] <l_r> the real keyboard of a friend of mine does not work
[12:55] <l_r> so i ll have to send him the command line
[12:55] <l_r> (with the enter)
[12:55] <bekks> How is he going to input it, without a keyboard?
[12:55] <l9> google
[12:56] <OerHeks> l_r, just type :  onboard &
[12:57] <l_r> thx
[13:16] <philinux> Is flash safe now on ubuntu following the patch from adobe?
[13:18] <OerHeks> philinux, no, the zeroday is not patched yet,.. but i am not sure the vulnerability is affecting ubuntu too.
[13:18] <philinux> ok cheers
[13:18] <bekks> So PepperFlash is affected?
[13:19] <OerHeks> bekks, yes, we had an update, but not with the latest patch
[13:19] <bekks> OerHeks: So Chrome was updated?
[13:20] <OerHeks> bekks, yes, i run 40.0.2214.91 now, update from a day or 2 ago
[13:20] <bekks> But chrome isnt in the Ubuntu repos, isnt it? :)
[13:20] <arthurfiggis> hello :) i probably missed this somewhere, but is there a way of starting the 14.10 live USB media with certain parameters passed to the kernel when it boots? in order to get through the installation on my particular laptop, i need to blacklist a particular module from loading
[13:21] <OerHeks> bekks, indeed.
[13:22] <OerHeks> arthurfiggis, what module on what laptop? maybe there is info to find..
[13:23] <Olivio> Bom dia !
[13:23] <arthurfiggis> OerHeks, the laptop is an 11" HP Pavilion x360, on either launchpad or a page that archives launchpad threads, it was mentioned as a "workaround" that blacklisting the module "dw_dmac" on boot would allow the machine to power on/off properly and not freeze when booting the installer
[13:24] <arthurfiggis> the same problem affected fedora so i tried blacklisting it in the fedora live media, everything worked perfect :) now i'm just trying to figure out how to do the same with the ubuntu live usb
[13:29] <OerHeks> arthurfiggis, i read this post #8 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1319149 and post #12 blacklist dw_dmac  blacklist dw_dmac_core
[13:29] <OerHeks> maybe any help?
[13:30] <arthurfiggis> OerHeks, Ahh yes, those are the ones :) they do describe how to blacklist the modules once ubuntu is installed, which i'll definitely need, thanks...they don't explain how to pass that parameter to the live usb media on boot though, i'll have to look around and see if i can figure that out...should be rdblacklist=dw_dmac or something similar, but when i boot the live usb i don't get any "options," it just goes straight to the installer
[13:30] <EriC^^> arthurfiggis: hold shift while the pc boots
[13:31] <OerHeks> arthurfiggis, from post #* i think: init=/bin/bash allowed poweroff -f
[13:31] <OerHeks> EriC^^ + 1
[13:32] <oli_b> Hi All
[13:32] <OerHeks> arthurfiggis, else you can add these when the installer is asking try out / install ubuntu with F6
[13:32] <arthurfiggis> EriC^^, I'm just going to quickly re-write 14.10 to an empty USB stick and give that a try, thanks :) i don't mind fedora much but i find that steam games only reliably work in ubuntu when it comes to linux...and i'm starting to miss wasteland 2 :)
[13:33] <arthurfiggis> OerHeks, thanks very much! writing all of these tips down now in a text file on the desktop, at least if i completely mess up the laptop i have another system as backup ;)
[13:34] <EriC^^> arthurfiggis: i see :)
[13:34] <arthurfiggis> the installation is a bit of a roundabout process anyway because of (ugh) secure boot...you have to reboot the system, turn on legacy support in bios, reboot the system, type in a confirmation code...reboot the system, then start the live usb stick
[13:35] <EriC^^> arthurfiggis: you can install in uefi mode if you want
[13:35] <BluesKaj> type in a confirmation code?
[13:35] <EriC^^> BluesKaj: yeah, the bios does that to make sure
[13:35] <arthurfiggis> BluesKaj: actually yeah, first time i've seen it :) after you enable legacy boot support and reboot the laptop, it asks you for a 4 digit.."pin" i suppose for confirmation
[13:36] <arthurfiggis> EriC^^, oddly enough on the laptop anyway, when i tried starting it in uefi mode the installer would freeze...but that may have been due to the module problem from above, maybe i'll try starting it uefi with the module blacklisted and see what happens :)
[13:36] <BluesKaj> heh, I haven't encountered any confirmation requirements when booting in legacy mode, but my laptop may ahave a different version of UEFI/BIOS
[13:36] <EriC^^> arthurfiggis: sounds good :)
[13:37] <EriC^^> BluesKaj: i think it's just when you disable secure boot
[13:37] <EriC^^> it happened with me, freaked me out the first time
[13:37] <BluesKaj> EriC^^, secure boot is always disabled here
[13:37] <arthurfiggis> BluesKaj: i think that's half the problem, but that was a problem with bios as well...how it's implemented or how _much_ of it is implemented...i have a hp pavilion desktop and a much more recent hp pavilion laptop, they both have secure boot but the desktop doesn't need a confirmation code
[13:38] <EriC^^> arthurfiggis: ah, same here a pavilion g6
[13:38] <EriC^^> arthurfiggis: if you do install in uefi mode, you might need to press esc when the pc starts to select ubuntu instead of the os manager
[13:38] <EriC^^> the bios is hard coded to only run windows efi files
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Lenovo G500 here , arthurfiggis
[13:38] <Olivio> alguem tem um curso ai de graça
[13:38] <EriC^^> ( there's a workaround though.. works usually )
[13:38] <Olivio> sou novo aqui
[13:39] <arthurfiggis> EriC^^, ahh thanks, that might have been it too actually...it'll definitely work in legacy mode anyway but if it works in uefi mode too, so much the better :)
[13:39] <BluesKaj> !pt | Olivio
[13:39] <EriC^^> arthurfiggis: yeah :)
[13:40] <Olivio> #ubuntu-pt
[13:41] <arthurfiggis> BluesKaj, ahh, lenovo are supposed to be pretty good too! i've always built a PC up from parts up until about four or five years ago, lately a lot of the stores like best buy aren't actually carrying desktop pc components any more...you can order them in on the site and pick them up in store, but they're not actually on hand
[13:41] <arthurfiggis> (except for a few very simple things like sticks of RAM)
[13:41] <BluesKaj> I have to admit i got rid of the W8.1 partitions , wiped the hdd clean the install W7 and kubuntu, so I avoided all the uefi /nbr windows problems
[13:42] <BluesKaj> mbr
[13:43]  * BluesKaj has the blinds open , but still not enough light...dreary outside today\
[13:43] <arthurfiggis> BluesKaj, i pretty much did the same thing with my laptop, i didn't install any other version of windows on it but i did get rid of windows 8.1...i found in gnome 3 at least (probably in unity as well) that the touchscreen on the laptop actually worked perfectly, and since it's not high end enough to play games, really doesn't matter which os is on the thing :)
[13:45] <BluesKaj> arthurfiggis, well wife runs W7 on her pc and there's no changing her mind to linux since she plays LOTRO and it's not very suited to wine
[13:46] <BluesKaj> so I keep W7 around for her sake, if you know waht i mean :)
[13:48] <arthurfiggis> BluesKaj, oh definitely...need to keep everybody happy after all :) i'm just lucky in that the few games i do want to play on steam are available in linux, if there were a bunch of windows games i wanted to play, i'd dual boot as well
[13:48] <MonkeyDust> i keep win xp around, only for ms office
[13:48] <arthurfiggis> (well...available for steam and ubuntu anyway, like i said earlier outside of ubuntu and debian whether or not a steam game will even start or run properly is suspect :( )
[13:49] <BluesKaj> there were rumours about steam and LOTRO coming to an agreement of sorts, but I guess it was just wishful thinking
[13:50] <BluesKaj> ubuntu seems to run steam games very well from what I've heard ...not a gamer myself
[13:51] <arthurfiggis> BluesKaj, hmm...well, you never know, it's unlikely with some companies but i know the head of gearbox said that there would never be a borderlands 2 for linux at one point...there sure is now :) ubuntu ran every steam (for linux) game that i bought just fine! fedora ran...most of them, but they didn't necessarily run, or when they did, they didn't necessarily work properly...e.g. one game the quit option wouldn't work so you had to
[13:51] <arthurfiggis> use alt-f4 to close the game window manually, etc.
[13:54] <BluesKaj> more and more games are being ported to mobiles with Linux derivative OSs on them so the chances are much greater in the future for a lot more new games being compatible with Linux in the future
[13:54]  * BluesKaj repeats himself again again :)
[13:55] <arthurfiggis> BluesKaj, i think so...part of the reason we got xcom for linux is that android got it first, i think :) so it was already more or less done...LOTRO would be a great Steam/Linux candidate, if only because the bigger an audience of players for an MMO, the better it is for the company making it
[13:57] <BluesKaj> yeah Turbine/Warner Bros has a lot of inertia , hard to get moving , but when it does it'll be a force
[13:58] <arthurfiggis> BluesKaj, ahh, i knew about turbine but i had no idea that warner bros. were involved with LOTRO as well...with that kind of backing they can be on whatever platform they want :) just a matter of critical mass i suppose, steam for linux still counts for less than one percent of overall steam users...but that's still around 70000-100000 users
[13:59] <arthurfiggis> sorry...that'd be more like 7000-10000 :) it's too early for me to get my orders of magnitude right
[13:59] <BluesKaj> arthurfiggis, I'm surprised there are so few actually
[14:01] <arthurfiggis> BluesKaj: actually just opening up the page itself i was right the first time, it's actually closer to 80,000 :) so i was right the first time...still a small number and kind of surprising like you say, but i think once there's a wider variety of games that will change...and if windows 10 turns out to irk people as much as windows 8 did, you might see more people switching regardless of what games they can play ;)
[14:02] <daftykins> bit off topic
[14:02] <arthurfiggis> daftykins, oh sorry about that!
[14:03] <daftykins> don't worry, there's always #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:03] <BluesKaj>  /me was wondering when ot police would arrive :)