[19:47] <markeo> theuser1: did you see anything u nder the INPUT chain when you typed "iptables -L"?
[19:47] <stefg> !debian | harisund
[19:47] <danbhfive> anyone know anything about the lpia alternate cd of jaunty?
[19:47] <Ben90> hi
[19:48] <sidewalk> how do i get my nvidia working fully in Jaunty?
[19:48] <sidewalk> do ineed to use envy?
[19:48] <loafers> When I upgrade to 9.04 and restart the computer will my volume be reset?  Because I'm in class right now and I would hate to have it blast everyone's ears
[19:48] <theuser1> markeo: ya many things in input
[19:48] <markeo> sidewalk: no, there's a Hardware Drivers panel under theSystem->Administration menu
[19:48] <Baconheart> anyone know why my xorg is running at 99% of my cpu?  proformance is crap after upgrade to juanty.
[19:48] <orudie> which irc client do you guys use that automatically puts a : at the end of the nick ?
[19:48] <harisund> stefg and erUSUL so upstream is where the software is obtained from, before being modified for use in Ubuntu? Does that mean if I download an upstream package (as in from source and then compile it) it might behave differently compared to the one I would have otherwise obtained through apt-get?
[19:48] <ipc> ree
[19:49] <sidewalk> markeo: but my graphics driver doesnt show up there
[19:49] <grawity> orudie: irssi, Xchat, almost all do that.
[19:49] <zanberdo> I'm looking for the cli equivalent for 'software sources'. I'd like to have my system try various sources, find the best one, and update sources.list, but this is for a server with no gui
[19:49] <stefg> harisund: right...
[19:49] <grawity> orudie: Type "gra" and press Tab.
[19:49] <sidewalk> i have a GeForce 8600M GT rev 161
[19:49] <Jdban> my checksum of the ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix said 1 error, is it safe to install it?
[19:49] <orudie> grawity, yeah i know about tab, using xchat it puts a comma
[19:49] <jippie> i installed like a week a ago from 9.04 beta alternet CD. The system largely works fine, but where is mij /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[19:49] <yoasif> orudie: using irssi here
[19:49] <Ben90> i want to know what would make my system just black out and just go back to the log-in screen
[19:49] <grawity> orudie: I think it can be changed easily.
[19:49] <harisund> stefg all right thanks
[19:50] <weather15> Anyone else having a slow download of 9.04?
[19:50] <stefg> lol
[19:50] <alinon> hrm kronix has 2 clones O.o
[19:50] <orudie> grawity: changed
[19:50] <psyt7h> having a problem installing jaunty using a live usb. nothing happens when I try to boot it. anyone here experiencing this behaviour?
[19:50] <bardun> weather15: i guess it would depend what mirror you're using
[19:50] <BobCFC> orudie, goto Settings->Input Box, Nick Completion Suffix
[19:50] <bauerbob> hi
[19:50] <Ben90> can someone please help me?
[19:50] <markeo> theuser1: does it have lines with port numbers, IP addresses and the like, o is it all just stuff like "Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)" and "target   prot opt source   destination"?
[19:50] <theuser1> grawity:  markeo what can e wrong
[19:51] <alinon> just ask ben90
[19:51] <danbhfive> zanberdo: maybe apt-spy?
[19:51] <r3z> Ben90, if your screen dumps you back to a login after going balck it sounds like X is crashing.
[19:51] <markeo> sidewalk: is the box for enabling non-free drivers checked?
[19:51] <bubba> hi, how can i install ubuntu netbook remix?
[19:51] <JockyWilson> Cloning a ext4 inode 256 partition.... is clonezilla now able to handle the new ext4 inode 256 format
[19:51] <Ben90> alinon, when im doing something that involves the internet or file transfer my system blacks out and goes back to the login screen
[19:52] <Ben90> alinon, how do i fix that
[19:52] <orudie> is irssi free ?
[19:52] <theuser1> markeo http://pastebin.com/m324e3cae
[19:52] <rski> orudie: yes
[19:52] <Ben90> alinon, it only happens when i use the linux -lowlatency kernel
[19:52] <orudie> gonna try it now
[19:52] <bauerbob> Ben90, why do you use the lowlatency kernel?
[19:53] <alinon> have you checked the forums and bug reports already?
[19:53] <jippie> why is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf empty?
[19:53] <markeo> theuser1: You have firewall rules which should be allowing traffic there
[19:53] <bauerbob> jippie, because recent xorg versions don't need it anymore
[19:53] <Ben90> my system gets really choppy on the standard kernel
[19:53] <rapha> YAY!! Got it installed :-)))
[19:53] <markeo> theuser1: specifically lines 44&45
[19:53] <lemmy> Hi, I've just upgrade to 9.04 and not X freezes and I can't even revive the system with sysrq key (e.g. killing x). I just see a garbaged startup screen after x flickering a couple of times before.
[19:53] <JockyWilson> anyone cloned a ext4 inode256 partition and what clone program worked for you?
[19:53] <bauerbob> Ben90, it's a desktop computer, isn't it?
[19:53] <lemmy> s/not/now
[19:53] <stefg> jippie: because xorg turned into a smarta??
[19:53] <jippie> bauerbob: then is it still possible to add changes to xorg.conf??
[19:53] <negge> upgrading to Jaunty is incredibly slow at the moment... :(
[19:54] <rapha> Looks & feels very smooth so far ... mobile broadband was as easy as pie
[19:54] <zanberdo> danbhfive, sorry, no apt-spy
[19:54] <Ben90> yes its a dell optiplex gx110 desktop pc
[19:54] <grawity> bauerbob: Does 8.10's Xorg still need it? Because when I installed Ubuntu Minimal and then installed X, it didn't work until I created an xorg.conf
[19:54] <alinon> Ben90: not too familiar with that issue ben90, sorry
[19:54] <nihilstar> hi guys, any problems updating from 8.10 to 9.04? :-)
[19:54] <danbhfive> zanberdo: yeah, its a debian package
[19:54] <Ben90> ok
[19:54] <bauerbob> jippie, yes, you can provide a xorg.conf and xorg will use it
[19:54] <theuser1> markeo i have added port 22 for ssh in the allow list of firestarter. what else should i do ?
[19:54] <lemmy> and starting init 2 apparently doesn't work with upstart anymore.
[19:54] <woot> What the hell ? I Just Installed  9.04. There are not any ackage to download !! I cant apt-get install xchat .. And deluge and many many others :x
[19:54] <CydeWeys> Woohoo!  It booted!
[19:54] <stefg> nihilstar: yup... finding a mirror that's not overloaded :-)
[19:54] <markeo> theuser1: Is your linux box your NAT router for the rest of your network as well?
[19:55]  * rapha goes to find out if usplash-smooth works for Jaunty
[19:55] <negge> alinon: I can't speak for myself yet but here's a list of potential problems, might be worth checking it out: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904
[19:55] <bauerbob> gravity: dunno. i'm still on 8.10 and i have a xorg.conf, but it dates from 8.04 or 7.10
[19:55] <nihilstar> stefg, hehehe :-D
[19:55] <jippie> bauerbob: but i guess if i provide an xorg.conf, it needs to be complete? can I generate a working version?
[19:55] <woot> Help :)
[19:55] <theuser1> markeo:  i dont have a network. just a router (dsl modem) and my pc
[19:55] <markeo> theuser: that should do it, honestly. If you can have firestarter open and look at its blocked attempts tab when you try to connect, firestarter will show it to you and you can quickly add it in to your rules as well
[19:55] <sidewalk> do i need to load the nvidia driver myself? it seems that the nv driver is loaded?
[19:56] <Ben90> bauerbob?
[19:56] <bauerbob> Ben90, i don't think you should use the low latency kernel if your system is choppy with the default kernel. must be a reason to be choppy and you should repair the issue
[19:56] <petia> asdf
[19:56] <negge> woot: what exactly happens? Does it say it can't find the packages or does the download itself fail?
[19:56] <markeo> theuser1: Looks like you have your networking configured to do NAT translation and forwarding like a NAT router, you might want to undo that if you know how you enabled it :D
[19:56] <petia> logout
[19:56] <Ben90> bauerbob, how would i go about repairing that said issue?
[19:56] <petia> exit
[19:56] <stefg> sidewalk: do you have a really old nvidia card (like Ceforce 4 or TNT?)
[19:56] <negge> sidewalk: if you mean the proprietary Nvidia driver, you do it from System --> Administration -> Hardware drivers
[19:56] <Xore|work> hello, i can find the MD5SUMS for the dvd images, but cannot find the MD5 sums for the cds. can anyone point me in the right direction?
[19:57] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: noone will talk to me so i'll try it out later xD
[19:57] <BobCFC> petia, try /quit
[19:57] <markeo> theuser1: I'm sorry if i'm not helping with the specifics, but I'm still in the process of upgrading and don't know the 9.04 environs at all yet
[19:57] <theuser1> markeo:  i should disable nat from my router?
[19:57] <orudie> irssi not as user friendly as xchat yeah ?
[19:57] <bauerbob> jippie, yes ...there's some app that creates one ...uhm... don't remember the name. xorgconf or something like that
[19:57] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, you can talk with the test echo skype :)
[19:57] <Shortguy109> ohhh
[19:57] <Shortguy109> kwl i shall try that
[19:57] <devdavad> It seems Apache2 has somehow taken over my lighty install. Has anyone else had this problem?
[19:57] <rapha> no usplash-smooth in Jaunty :-(((
[19:57] <alinon> 41 MiNuTeS ReMaiNiNG To uPGRaDe!!
[19:57] <Jeruvy> Xore|work: they should be in same file on a mirror?
[19:57] <bauerbob> Ben90, i'd start looking into the output of dmesg
[19:57] <SRabbelier> Is it inappropriate to ask questions here wrt installing VMWare tools in Ubuntu 9.04?
[19:57] <Ben90> ok 1 sec.
[19:57] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: actually, how do i do that? xD
[19:57] <devdavad> like when I start my comp apache2 takes over port 80
[19:57] <markeo> theuser1: OH
[19:57] <negge> alinon: "About 7 hours remaining" here
[19:57] <tomatopaste> hi all
[19:57] <grawity> orudie: irssi vs Xchat is like vi/emacs vs gedit :)
[19:58] <ectospasm> 'sup y'all
[19:58] <tomatopaste> how are the download speeds on the upgrade so far?
[19:58] <alinon> holy cow negge hehe
[19:58] <theuser1> markeo:  OH ?
[19:58] <grawity> orudie: Some people want more than just user-friendliness.
[19:58] <MarkG> Hi, I have Ubuntu Jaunty RC, can I just run Update Manager to get the latest packages, or do I need to do something more?
[19:58] <alinon> negge: don't feel too bad :P i had my download stop on me all together at one point!
[19:58] <negge> tomatopaste: my speed atm is 32 kb/s. My max normally is around 800kb/s so it's pretty slow:/
[19:58] <markeo> theuser1: what's going on: your router is NAT'ing, and you're trying to connect to your public IP, which your DSL router is most likely NOT configured to forward to for connections on port 22
[19:58] <ectospasm> grawity: yeah, but XChat/gedit can't bake you cookies
[19:58] <acr0nym> Shortguy109 :) startup skype, login with your info, double click on skype test call
[19:58] <bauerbob> tomatopaste, i could download the alternate iso @ full speed from a local ftp mirror
[19:58] <negge> alinon: hehe that's bad
[19:58] <BobCFC> orudie, irssi is is the terminal no buttons. It's cool but hard to notice when you get a PM because it doesn't flash
[19:58] <TheFunkbomb> coz_, okay, I'm all up to date.  The only issue now is that when I open Update Manager, I have Brasero in there but it's grayed out
[19:58] <thingy> \o/ Yay!
[19:59] <tomatopaste> thanks negge and bauerbob
[19:59] <markeo> theuser1: you have to configure your DSL router, if it's providing a natted address for your machine, to port forward port 22 to your machine
[19:59] <ectospasm> BobCFC: you can always have it play sound events
[19:59] <Ben90> bauerbob, im gonna pastebin the output alright?
[19:59] <theuser1> markeo:  dont know man. h
[19:59] <irritatedskin> How can I run a command that is already running in a terminal window without restarting the process?
[19:59] <coz_> TheFunkbomb,  that one I am not sure of
[19:59] <clyde> how can i upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 ?
[19:59] <yaaar> howdy
[19:59] <bauerbob> Ben90, yes
[19:59] <JDShewey> MarkG: apt-get dist-upgrade will put you on full release
[19:59] <grawity> BobCFC: But it can be configured to flash. (And it should by default.)
[19:59] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: it says problem with audio playback :(
[19:59] <LordKow> TheFunkbomb: does it ask you if you want to do a partial upgrade?
[19:59] <oliver_g_> hi
[19:59] <alinon> if you need to upgrade to 9.04 - hit alt-F2, type update-manager -c in the run box, hit run, wait for a button to appear that asks you to upgrade, follow the directions
[19:59] <ectospasm> I'm still trying to figure out how to get it to play sound events through the SSH tunnels I use.
[19:59] <clyde> how can i upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 ?
[19:59] <bauerbob> clyde, "sudo update-manager"
[19:59] <theuser1> markeo:  ok
[19:59] <acr0nym> ah ok
[19:59] <clyde> ok thanks
[19:59] <theuser1> brb
[19:59] <TheFunkbomb> LordKow, I already got past that
[19:59] <stefg> MarkG: as far as i've read the the relaease handles ext4 mounting differently... so if you didn't alter the default ext3 filesystem a simply update should be fine for you
[19:59] <CydeWeys> Oh great, there's a Clyde here.  that won't get confusing.
[19:59] <BobCFC> ectospasm, yes if I go away i want it to still flash when i'm back
[19:59] <LordKow> TheFunkbomb: which mirror are you using?
[19:59] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, go into the skype options, it's at the bottomleft
[19:59] <orudie> 1800 users wow
[19:59] <ljuwaidah> yey!
[19:59] <TheFunkbomb> LordKow, beats me
[20:00] <florin_> hello , i have this video card on fujitsu siemens amilo 2727 , for ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 all was ok , never request driver or something , but now in jaunty i cannot enable desktop effects
[20:00] <ljuwaidah> it turns out i downloaded 9.04 but burnt 8.10!
[20:00] <florin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/156700/plain/
[20:00] <ectospasm> BobCFC: XChat is not navigable by the keyboard alone.
[20:00] <orudie> i'm thinking about installing ubuntu desktop
[20:00] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: went into options
[20:00] <oliver_g_> minor download problem: the alternate-iso torrent link (http://releases.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent) is redirected to the iso itself (to http://d2j60aaoklmkol.cloudfront.net/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso) - is that intended?
[20:00] <BobCFC> ectospasm, grawity  no doubt it is cool with screen though
[20:00] <acr0nym> go into sound devices
[20:00] <HBX> hey is it me or is the upgrade to jaunty slow over the net
[20:00] <markeo> theuser1: When you type '/sbin/ifconfig -a' if you get the IP address you had up above, or is it something like '192.168.x.x' or '172.16.x.x' or '10.x.x.x'?
[20:00] <eseven73> ljuwaidah, lol ive done that a few times
[20:00] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: now what ? :o
[20:00] <Ben90> bauerbob, go to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d259164e2
[20:00] <acr0nym> what are your options set to?
[20:00] <harisund> Nowadays isn't it better to use aptitude than apt-get? as in apt-get update being replaced with aptitude update, and similarly aptitude upgrade and aptitude full-upgrade or something/
[20:00] <wiB3> hi guys
[20:00] <wiB3> i screwed my ubuntu
[20:00] <florin_> someone help to activate it?
[20:00] <thorn_PL> hi
[20:00] <acr0nym> just default?
[20:00] <Marfi> HBX: Ubuntu just came out. Did you really have to ask that?
[20:00] <clyde> yes yes..i see the upgrade button ..thanks a lot :))
[20:00] <yaaar> hi everybody. i just did a fresh install of 9.04 using the alternate disc so as to setup software raid 0. i'm pretty darn sure i did the partitioning right, but when i reboot after installation it just drops me at busybox, saying there was no /dev/md0 ...but when i go to /dev and list the dir, the md0 device is right there. anybody know what's wrong here?
[20:00] <orudie> can i run windows and ubuntu desktop at the same time with support of full hardware such as video and audio ?
[20:00] <LordKow> TheFunkbomb: go to System -> Administration -> Software Sources and change the "Download from" to something else.
[20:00] <HBX> jaja
[20:01] <HBX> yea i did
[20:01] <wiB3> i ran update-manager to do the dist upgrade and my link is very skippy so the update fail
[20:01] <alinon> LoL wiB3
[20:01] <markeo> welp I think he figured out how to disable NAT on his router
[20:01] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, try changing around the options in there and click on the button make a test call to see if it works now
[20:01] <wiB3> i decided to use update-manager-text so i apt that, realizing it get python2.6 too
[20:01] <myself> hey so i have ubuntu 9.04 BETA what is the best way to upgrade to the STABLE 9.04 version?
[20:01] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: okay, thanks
[20:01] <wiB3> and now i can't run any of update-manager-* even i edited the shebangs
[20:01] <LordKow> myself: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[20:01] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: on the sound devices?
[20:01] <ljuwaidah> eseven73: it's good to know i'm not alone
[20:01] <JDShewey> myself: apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:01] <myself> JDS what about what LordKow said?
[20:01] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, yep
[20:02] <LordKow> myself: both work
[20:02] <HBX> whats faster the cli to upgrade or the gui
[20:02] <stefg> yaaar: set up a non raid /boot partition ... prolly the raid takes to long to be assembled, so the initrd doesn't find the root-fs
[20:02] <myself> okay, and that will actually install it completely into the stable version?
[20:02] <alinon> 2 clones from noren :P
[20:02] <Idespnnr> myself: the best way would be to wait a day or so... servers are really slow right now...
[20:02] <LordKow> myself: yes
[20:02] <Shortguy109> IT WORKED
[20:02] <Shortguy109> :D
[20:02] <pvvni> Yo anyone know what the deal is with the new screen in 9.04
[20:02] <myself> hmm i see
[20:02] <pvvni> The new tabs are nice
[20:02] <bauerbob> Ben90, is your whole system choppy or is maybe only X choppy? (graphics, maybe 2d/3d)
[20:02] <stefg> yaaar: and you should really rethink if raid-0 is worth it
[20:02] <BobCFC> HBX same, it runs CLI in background you can even click show terminal
[20:02] <pvvni> but I have no idea what each of the numbers are for, and they arent listed in the man file
[20:02] <hardcampa> servers arn't slow
[20:02] <yaaar> stefg; actually, that's the way i have it setup already. / is a raid, /boot is only on one disc
[20:02] <wiB3> does running dist-upgrade upgrades to jaunty?
[20:02] <Krypto_> are the Torrent download links on ubuntu.com a known issue?... they lead to direct .iso downloads instead of a .torrent file when you click on them, even though hovering over them the status bar says .torrent
[20:02] <HBX> fuck its majorly slow
[20:03] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: the call worked, but my voice didn't
[20:03] <acr0nym> Shortguy109 cool :)
[20:03] <acr0nym> ah ok
[20:03] <myself> but to do it, i would type sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade  or apt-get dist-upgrade?
[20:03] <hardcampa> just change server if it's slow
[20:03] <LordKow> i highly recommend torrents
[20:03] <acr0nym> still one problem to solve then
[20:03] <HBX> there servers must be getting pounded
[20:03] <acr0nym> can you quit skype
[20:03] <Ben90> bauerbob, when i try to run some certain apps the seem to lag a bit.
[20:03] <Marfi> Krypto_: I had that problem. Stop using tor, or refresh the page
[20:03] <BobCFC> Krypto_, try torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[20:03] <myself> those two or that one command would do it fully?
[20:03] <acr0nym> go to sound & video and start sound recorder
[20:03] <final_frontier> hi everyone
[20:03] <stefg> yaaar: hmm.... then inspect /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf.... might contain wron uuid'S or other bs
[20:03] <final_frontier> got a problem with kde4
[20:04] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: sound recorder? how do i do that?  Typing 'bg' isn't working for me.
[20:04] <rapha> final_frontier: probably better luck trying in #kubuntu
[20:04] <HBX> and im on cable
[20:04] <chelz> KyleK: yeah i noticed that about an hour ago
[20:04] <nivardus> my 9.04 install disc freezes up after language selection (I've tried reburning, everything seems fine) It stops responding after I make a selection to Install/check disk/book from 1st harddrive/etc.
[20:04] <chelz> KyleK: i'm not sure who to report it to, i said it here also though
[20:04] <Baconheart> why is my xorg running at 99% of the CPU after ugprade to juanty?
[20:04] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, click on applications -> sound & video -> sound recorder
[20:04] <myself> hey
[20:04] <ljuwaidah> later
[20:04] <oliver_g_> HBX: the package servers are probably very overloaded right now
[20:04] <myself> I DID supo apt-get dist upgrade
[20:04] <final_frontier> i have a giant plasmoid in the desktop and i dont know how can i colse it
[20:04] <myself> and it didn't install anything
[20:04] <myself> cause i just did a 10 megabyte update
[20:04] <acr0nym> final_frontier, *cough* join #kubuntu *cough* :P
[20:04] <myself> it asked me to do
[20:04] <HBX> yea thats what i was thinking
[20:04] <oliver_g_> HBX: maybe try again next week
[20:04] <armegadon> is the new notifications in jaunty supposed to not appear when a media player is being used?
[20:04] <JDShewey> myself: then you are are on full release.
[20:05] <bauerbob> Ben90, what apps?
[20:05] <HBX> next week jaja
[20:05] <myself> it was just 10 megabytes of stuff that I needed?
[20:05] <Marfi> final_frontier: #kubuntu is that way, don't clutter #ubuntu on release day    ------>
[20:05] <HBX> maybe at midnight
[20:05] <myself> i mean  i have been updating regularly the past week
[20:05] <myself> but thats all?
[20:05] <JDShewey> myself: yep. Sounds like.
[20:05] <HBX> when ppl arent pounding the servers
[20:05] <stefg> yup
[20:05] <alinon> cheetah's don't have retractible claws...huh
[20:05] <kitche> final_frontier: might want to ask the #kubuntu for your question
[20:05] <thorn_PL> anybody know adress of polish ubuntu room ?
[20:05]  * alinon shrugs
[20:05] <stefg> !pl
[20:05] <vart_> MYSELF: YES
[20:05] <the_dark_warrio> My ubuntu installation is "Scanning the mirror..." for a long time... It is still on 82%. Any hints on this?
[20:05] <myself> okay :)
[20:05] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: i don't have a sound recorder :o
[20:05] <Ben90> bauerbob, the apps i run are zsnes , gxine , etc...
[20:05] <vart_> sorry - missed caps
[20:05] <Guest16366> i speak  a bit of Polish and english
[20:06] <Marfi> the_dark_warrio: wait
[20:06] <acr0nym> thorn_PL, join #ubuntu-pl
[20:06] <alinon> thorn_PL: how'd that skype download go?
[20:06] <BobCFC> HBX, you could try getting the alternateCD from the torrents which are fast, I think you can upgrade from the alternate
[20:06] <kitche> the_dark_warrio: wait a few days
[20:06] <stefg> the_dark_warrio: server overload ...
[20:06] <nct> Hello. Does anyone knows if someone has packaged the recently-released gcc 4.4 for Ubuntu already?
[20:06] <thorn_PL> ok thx very much :D
[20:06] <acr0nym> Shortguy109 that's weird :)
[20:06] <HBX> coo
[20:06] <oliver_g_> HBX: in the ubuntu kingdom, the sun never sets :-) there's always somebody around the world pounding the servers
[20:06] <hardcampa> just switch server
[20:06] <htpc> what word editing software comes with Ubuntu?
[20:06] <HBX> but im on a netbook
[20:06] <the_dark_warrio> oh, ok, thanks ;)
[20:06] <Marfi> BobCFC: HBX Best thing is to wait it out. It will go
[20:06] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: yeah, i was pretty sure i had one O_O
[20:06] <bauerbob> Ben90, i could find only a few warnings in your dmesg output and i'm not sure if even one of the is the cause of the issue. so the apps you're talking of have not much i/o (hard disk) and are 2d only
[20:06] <Guest16366> will i lose my book marks and like stuff?
[20:06] <Ben90> bauerbob, when i run zsnes on the normal kernel it runs choppy
[20:06] <_RadioHead> can i update ubuntu to latst release via ISO file?
[20:06] <Marfi> HBX: If you want to grab the alt, install it to a jump drive
[20:06] <stefg> htpc: vim :-)
[20:06] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, go to System -> preferences -> sound
[20:06] <Marfi> _RadioHead: Alternate cd
[20:07] <JDShewey> Having trouble with nvidia performance w/ compiz. It is a nvidia quadro NVS 280. Any suggestions? I am using the 177 driver BC support for my card was dropped in 180.
[20:07] <vart_> htpc: open office
[20:07] <BobCFC> HBX, yes you can put it on a USB stick, I haven't burnt a CD in a long while lol
[20:07] <alinon> gah! 947 of 1127 files - so close!
[20:07] <manpoole> the time it is taking to download updates is extremely long is that because everyone is getting updates?
[20:07] <HBX> coo
[20:07] <Marfi> JDShewey: glxgears?
[20:07] <HBX> hey will i loose my current settings
[20:07] <Mr_Kaizer> I've got a graphics issue (I think). A few minutes ago, my screen started flickering, flixkering little colored stripes fluttering across my screen. The desktop locked, I couldn't do anything. The screen dissapeared in all the flickering stripes, and it stayed that way for a couple of minutes, before my desktop slowly reapeared. Any thoughts as to what may have cause this? Ubuntu is running just fine now, and was before the incident. I'm o
[20:07] <_RadioHead> Marfi, i have ubuntu-9.04-rc-desktop-i386.iso , i know i can mount and add media but though i can use as ISO
[20:07] <kitche> manpoole: because of the new release
[20:07] <harisund> Anyone know how to stop a service from running on boot time?
[20:07] <bauerbob> Ben90, there's a warning in your dmesg output for your hard disk driver ("needs updating"), so maybe dma is could not be set
[20:07] <stefg> !latex | htpc
[20:07] <HBX> i run super ubuntu
[20:07] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, then go to sound capture and change the settings there till it works, you can check by using the test button
[20:07] <JDShewey> those who are having trouble with updates: do pages take a long time to load?
[20:07] <BobCFC> HBX unetbootin will build a usb from an ISO if you want
[20:07] <yaaar> stefg; how do i edit that file from busybox? i don't have vi or nano apparently
[20:07] <vixey> updtaes updates could work like torrenst!
[20:07] <Marfi> _RadioHead: can't upgrade from the live disk
[20:07] <Ben90> bauerbob, how do i fix that?
[20:07] <JDShewey> if so you may be having issues with ipv6
[20:07] <bauerbob> Ben90, that can result in a lag every time the hdd is being accessed
[20:07] <Marfi> _RadioHead: Clean install, yes
[20:07] <manpoole> the ubuntu sever is swamped
[20:07] <bauerbob> Ben90, are you on 8.10 or 9.04?
[20:08] <manpoole> synaptic is having a time
[20:08] <vart_> harisund: aadd to blacklist
[20:08] <Ben90> bauerbob, i'm on 9.04 beta i think.
[20:08] <acr0nym> I feel so smart by downloading 9.04 a week before the release date :P
[20:08] <harisund> vart_: no not module.. service .. as in something that is found in /etc/init.d/
[20:08] <_RadioHead> Marfi, uh so now huge download
[20:08] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: there's no preferences in settings :o
[20:08] <bauerbob> what's the output of "uname -a"?
[20:08] <manpoole> isnt it possible to add mirrors to ubuntu synaptic?
[20:08] <Marfi> ------It's update day, please stop asking why things are going slow --------
[20:08] <JDShewey> manpoole: do web pages take a long time to load?
[20:08] <manpoole> nope
[20:08] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: system*
[20:08] <Lr5> Anyone knows where to find the torrent download link of the alternative install cd of Ubuntu 9.04? The downloads one leads to a regular download :s
[20:08] <harisund> vart_ it used to be update-rc.d on debian based machines earlier .. but I am not familiar with the equivalent on upstart
[20:08] <stefg> yaaar: you need a rescue system .... either use sysrescd or fire up the desktop cd and apt-get install mdadm , then sudo mdadm -A --scan
[20:08] <manpoole> just packages i am trying to install
[20:08] <BobCFC> manpoole, goto System->Admiin0>Software Sources
[20:09] <Marfi> _RadioHead: You can update through the update manager, clean install with the desktop disk, or update with the alternate CD
[20:09] <acr0nym> Shortguy109, that's strange... System -> preferences -> sound
[20:09] <acr0nym> are you sure that's not there?
[20:09] <Marfi> _RadioHead: Those are your only options. =)
[20:09] <bauerbob> Ben90, there was a kernel update for 9.04 after beta. but you should update a beta to the final anyway (now that the final is finally out)
[20:09] <uni4dfx> Lr5: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/
[20:09] <alinon> i hope my upgrade goes well ...i didn't manually change any resources
[20:09] <Ben90> bauerbob?
[20:09] <Lr5> uni4dfx: thanks
[20:09] <harisund> Anyone? I want the equivalent of update-rc.d for upstart .. there's a process in /etc/init.d that I don't want running on boot time
[20:09] <Ben90> bauerbob, how do i update it?
[20:10] <Lr5> actually it seems to be fixed by now
[20:10] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: yeah, im sure, maybe it's the new kde, my brother said "You are running Kubuntu 9.04. The microphone was working in version 8.04."
[20:10] <lepassive> i want to change volume.mount_point for a device using HAL but i can find the conf file
[20:10] <_RadioHead> Marfi, :) better ill go via update manager :0 since i am lazy now to backup my stuff and do a clean install.and i like upgrades , testing how goes all things ....:)
[20:10] <zanberdo> is there a CLI alternative to software-properties-gtk?
[20:10] <vart_> harisund: try sysvconfig
[20:10] <Marfi> harisund: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/<process>
[20:10] <acr0nym> ah Shortguy109 I keep forgetting you are on KDE
[20:10] <Marfi> _RadioHead: sounds good. =)
[20:10] <acr0nym> I'm not familiar with KDE at all, so can't really help a lot
[20:10] <stefg> yaaar: and once again... raid-0 is bs on desktops in 99% of all use cases... seek time is still the same, you'll not gain anything from STR if you don't do video editing
[20:10] <zanberdo> with all the traffic on the main package servers today, I'd like to find the one with the least latency for my location
[20:10] <bauerbob> Ben90, since you're already on a 9.04 you don't need to run the update-manager. but run "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[20:10] <zanberdo> but I don't use the gui
[20:10] <eichi> hello
[20:10] <acr0nym> you can join #kubuntu which is specifically for KDE
[20:10] <zanberdo> for this server.
[20:10] <Shortguy109> oh!
[20:10] <Ben90> ok 1 sec.
[20:10] <eichi> is the torrent on the page dead?
[20:10] <Shortguy109> thanksssss :)
[20:11] <Shortguy109> is there a certain server?
[20:11] <Marfi> zanberdo: that's why I came here to help with the questions
[20:11] <acr0nym> nope just type /join #kubuntu
[20:11] <acr0nym> :)
[20:11] <eichi> torrent download: starts iso download
[20:11] <Shortguy109> acr0nym: okay, thanks very much :)
[20:11] <acr0nym> no problemo, come back when you need help with gnome :P
[20:11] <majlap> may need to do a fresh install :(
[20:11] <armegadon> is the new notifications in jaunty supposed to not appear when a media player is being used?
[20:11] <Schuyler> so I got the Jaunty ISO from BitTorrent, which is great. I booted my system from it, and it doesn't seem to be designed to do upgrades.
[20:12] <BobCFC> zanberdo, you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list but I don't know how to test apart from trial and error
[20:12] <uni4dfx> armegadon: yes
[20:12] <Schuyler> I mounted it -o loop to /media/cdrom0
[20:12] <armegadon> uni4dfx, is there any way to get them to display even though a media player is open?
[20:12] <Ben90> bauerbob?
[20:12] <bauerbob> Schuyler, only the alternate edition is designed for upgrades
[20:12] <Marfi> Schuyler: Alternate CD is the only one that can do upgrades
[20:12] <zcvvc> is it possible to mount *.iso file which is on sshfs? I'm getting permission denied
[20:12] <majlap> says error authenticating some packages :(
[20:12] <bauerbob> Ben90, yes?
[20:12] <Marfi> zcvvc: sudo is your friend
[20:12] <zanberdo> BobCFC, right, I'm aware that I can modify it by hand.  I like the feature that software-properties-gtk offers and other distros support as well when looking for the best possible mirror site.
[20:12] <Ben90> bauerbob, it says that theres nothing to install.
[20:12] <orudie> can i run windows and ubuntu desktop at the same time with support of full hardware such as video and audio ?
[20:12] <Schuyler> ok, so adding "deb file:/media/cdrom0 jaunty main restricted" to my /etc/apt/source.list isn't going to do it? :)
[20:13] <bauerbob> Ben90, and what's the output of "uname -a"?
[20:13] <BobCFC> zanberdo, PING! :)
[20:13] <Marfi> orudie: google "virtual machines"
[20:13] <Ben90> ok 1 sec.
[20:13] <Lr5> so, can you upgrade to 9.04 using the alternative install cd without burning it, if you mount the cd image?
[20:13] <Schuyler> because I tried that and an 'apt-get update' and it doesn't seem to find the files there
[20:13] <zanberdo> BobCFC, not really what I'm looking for BobCFC but thanks anyway
[20:13] <acr0nym> orudie, not sure, you can try virtual box or portable ubuntu
[20:13] <uni4dfx> armegadon: which media player
[20:13] <Lr5> or is there some reason for which only burning works?
[20:13] <Schuyler> Lr5: sounds like we have the same proble, :)
[20:13] <pawel__> I'm downloading upgrading with down speed 1400 b/s
[20:13] <Marfi> Schuyler: Update from the alternate CD, not the live disk
[20:13] <armegadon> uni4dfx, totem and mplayer
[20:13] <Ben90> bauerbob, it says "Linux ben-desktop 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:13] <Ben90> "
[20:13] <Schuyler> Marfi: bingo, got it, thanks :)
[20:13] <BobCFC> zanberdo, there must be a bash script somewhere
[20:13] <Marfi> pawel__: It's release day...servers are packed...don't complain
[20:13] <uni4dfx> armegadon: it only works with rhythmbox for now as far as i know
[20:14] <_RadioHead> Marfi, RC and RELEASE are same ? or differ?
[20:14] <_RadioHead> Marfi,  9.04
[20:14] <Marfi> _RadioHead: RC = release candidate, release = release
[20:14] <Schuyler> does anyone have the link for the alternate ISO torrent? I already blew away firefox on my system (don't ask)
[20:14] <Shininggg> has anyone taken over the rythmbox project?
[20:14] <Marfi> _RadioHead: RC is the one before the release
[20:14] <armegadon> uni4dfx, i don't want it to show notifications from totem or mplayer, but currently if totem is open, i don't get pidgin notifications
[20:14] <Marfi> Schuyler: IE? wget?
[20:14] <_RadioHead> Marfi, :) i know  but i just downloadewd RC few days ago when i saw popup 9.04released :)
[20:14] <Schuyler> Marfi: I need to know the URL before I can wget it :)
[20:14] <racecar56> here is an offtopic channel, just for anyone why wants it #ubuntu-cafe
[20:14] <Marfi> _RadioHead: I saw it in class when I did an update. I was happy
[20:14] <zcvvc> Marfi, I'm using sudo
[20:15] <uni4dfx> armegadon: then it's probably a bug
[20:15] <bauerbob> Ben90, oh, damn. that's already the latest kernel. uhm.... well, there's nothing i can tell you for your specific case. you might want to try the usual suspects, that is "noapic" (kernel parameter)
[20:15] <zanberdo> BobCFC, my thought was that whatever software-properties-gtk is doing with the gui should/could be done from cli.  it should be a simple matter to id known servers, test latency, and update sources.list, but do this from cli (since this is one of the features of software-properties-gtk)
[20:15] <_RadioHead> Marfi, i just saw it , already started download :)
[20:15] <Marfi> zcvvc: If your mounting an iso, use sudo mount <iso file> /media/cdrom0 -o loop
[20:15] <Ben90> ok.
[20:15] <armegadon> uni4dfx, is there someone i could talk to that specializes in the notify-osd development
[20:15] <racecar56> *who
[20:15] <whattey> Schuyler: i386 or amd64?
[20:15] <bauerbob> Ben90, and "pci=routeirq" also helps very often, but as I said, that's more a general workaround for hardware issues
[20:15] <_RadioHead> but i need to upgrade my net conection
[20:15] <nivardus> what's going on if, after trying to make a selection on the install disc (after boot) the installer freezes at the menu, with neither CD or harddrive doing working? I've reburned the disc. Any ideas?
[20:15] <zcvvc> Marfi: I'm doing exactly the same
[20:16] <Marfi> Schuyler: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[20:16] <Ben90> bauerbob, what do you mean?
[20:16] <Schuyler> Marfi: thanks!
[20:16] <Schuyler> whattey: thanks also
[20:16] <pawel__> will it be upgrading faster tomorrow?
[20:16] <Marfi> zcvvc: what are you trying to mount?
[20:16] <Schuyler> appreciate your assistance, guys
[20:16] <whattey> pawel__ most likely yes
[20:16] <Marfi> _RadioHead: Have my 3 torrents running / seeding now
[20:16] <danbhfive> nivardus: are you doing a new install?
[20:16] <bauerbob> Ben90, if "noapic" doesn't help, you can also give "pci=routeirq" a try. it's also a kernel parameter
[20:16] <Ben90> ok.
[20:16] <zanberdo> if everyone used software-properties-gtk to find the mirror with the least latency, the main servers wouldn't be so heavily burdened.... just my two cents
[20:17] <_RadioHead> Marfi, no i am using update manager . tomorrow ill download iso from work.
[20:17] <zcvvc> Marfi: ubuntu image iso on another machine, via sshfs
[20:17] <zanberdo> I just wish i could find the cli equivelent
[20:17] <Schuyler> and huge thanks to all the Ubuntu volunteers here, you guys are doing great work
[20:17] <nivardus> danbhfive: attempting a fresh install over 8.04, yes
[20:17] <zcvvc> Must I copy it?
[20:17] <BobCFC> zanberdo, here is a script that will test a bunch of wget response times from a list of servers might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4643738&postcount=3
[20:17] <_RadioHead> Marfi, i asked about RC and release coz on distrowatch i saw this:  New features: Ubuntu 9.04 RC includes the latest GNOME 2.26 desktop ....
[20:17] <Hosein-mec> anyone can tell me , the files in main server ( http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/9.04/ ) is final or not ? because the date is for 20 april but in other mirror like this ( ftp://ftpserv.tudelft.nl/pub/Linux/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/jaunty/ ) the date is 23 april ! Thanks
[20:17] <Baconheart> I don't have a hardware driver for my ATI card after Juanty upgrade, is that normal?
[20:17] <eternal_p>  /join #ubuntu-release-party
[20:17] <zanberdo> BobCFC, thanks, checking it out now
[20:17] <Marfi> zcvvc: Don't know of you can. Check that you have write permissions on the other machine
[20:17] <danbhfive> nivardus: did you check the cd?
[20:17]  * scunizi gives Schuyler a pat on the back since he's also a volunteer
[20:17] <dthomasdigital> Just installed 9.04 on a dell T3400 and it went very smooth so if you got one of those you should be in good shape.
[20:18] <_RadioHead> anyway thx for clearing my mind and helping me Marfi
[20:18] <_RadioHead> :)
[20:18] <acr0nym> or you can use an asus 1000he :P
[20:18] <Sevein> Hi!
[20:18] <uni4dfx> armegadon: idk, try the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD
[20:18] <acr0nym> runs lightning fast on this netbook
[20:18] <Marfi> zcvvc: I have never done a mount over a network with a .iso. Just don't tell people here if you can. =P
[20:18] <weather15> Anyone downloading 9.04 on OSU open source lab mirror?
[20:18] <zcvvc> Marfi: found it; I have to sudo sshfs
[20:18] <Sevein> What I have to do update from 9.04rc to 9.04? just upgrade?
[20:18] <Marfi> weather15: I usually grab mine from MIT whenever I down. have the last few realeases
[20:18] <zcvvc> thanks anyway
[20:18] <nivardus> danbhfive: same issue when I try to make that selection, I've reburned the image and the download checks out as fine
[20:18] <Marfi> zcvvc: Alright, glad it worked!
[20:19] <orudie> if i install ubuntu dekstop, will i have to install nvidia drivers for video card or will it do it automatically ?
[20:19] <danbhfive> !final > Sevein
[20:19] <Slart> Hello.. if I try to download the torrent for the 9.04 64 bit release I get the iso file directly.. did someone not get their coffee today?
[20:19] <Hosein-mec> anyone can tell me , the files in main server ( http://noncdn.releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/9.04/ ) is final or not ? because the date is for 20 april but in other mirror like this ( ftp://ftpserv.tudelft.nl/pub/Linux/releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/jaunty/ ) the date is 23 april ! Thanks
[20:19] <Marfi> orudie: You'll have to install them, but its automated
[20:19] <danbhfive> nivardus: well, your burner could be malfunctioning
[20:19] <acr0nym> funny how the #ubuntu+1 channel disappeared all of a sudden :)
[20:19] <racecar56> acr0nym, cause 9.04 is out
[20:19] <acr0nym> lol duh
[20:19] <acr0nym> figured that out ;P
[20:19] <lwizardl> hi
[20:19] <Sevein> danbhfive: thanks! :)
[20:20] <bauerbob> yippieh, 9.04 packages are now being installed - 1h18m left (wtf?!), see you all later ...well, at least i hope so :-)
[20:20] <lwizardl> does anyone know of a good resource for Made with/on linux logos that are royalty free for use?
[20:20] <physically_fit> I LOVE UBUNTU mkay....
[20:20] <Ben90> cya.
[20:20] <acr0nym> why hello there mr garrison
[20:20] <Baconheart> Marfi: how do I install ATI video drivers in Juanty?
[20:20] <Marfi> lwizardl: google "ubuntu logos"
[20:20] <BobCFC> lwizardl, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[20:20] <alinon> æænoesææ
[20:20] <Marfi> Baconheart: google it, not familiar with ATI drivers
[20:20] <nivardus> danbhfive: I'm going to try burning on another computer, thanks for your time
[20:21] <danbhfive> nivardus: np
[20:21] <Slart> Baconheart: there is no restricted drivers manager?
[20:21] <kulight> Baconheart: restricted drivers manager
[20:21] <Slart> !ati | Baconheart, they have probably not update this but anyways..
[20:21] <lwizardl> BobCFC, yeah but those are Ubuntu based only
[20:21] <Baconheart> Slart: when i run that it shows no hardware drivers installed
[20:21] <Marfi> TY Slart
[20:21] <Mushroom> If anyone is looking for Ubuntu 9.04 I will have it on my server in a few minutes
[20:21] <deany> Baconheart, probably means your card is no longer supported
[20:21] <Marfi> Slart: Haven't helped in @ubuntu for a while. =)
[20:21] <Slart> Baconheart: hmm.. odd
[20:22] <Marfi> Mushroom: Or to help...seed
[20:22] <deany> have to stick with the ati opensource driver instead.. like me :(
[20:22] <lwizardl> BobCFC, I'm looking for more of TUX based logos and stuff like "Made 100% on Gedit
[20:22] <Slart> Marfi: well.. the bot probably needs a lot of updating anyways =)
[20:22] <armegadon> uni4dfx, i read that wiki but it doesn't talk about my problem
[20:22] <Marfi> Slart: Probably, but still enough for someone.   =)
[20:22] <acr0nym> Mushroom, how does one get a server with that much extra bandwidth? :)
[20:22] <Slart> !torrent
[20:22] <Mushroom> I have a few new Distros that I will upload tonight that we have downloaded at office the last few days
[20:22] <girdy> has jaunty been officially released yet?
[20:22] <whattey> yes
[20:22] <girdy> thx
[20:23] <Marfi> girdy: Go to the website
[20:23] <lucax> whats up with fast user switch on jaunty??
[20:23] <Slart> can someone try this link http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent  see if they get the torrent or the actual iso-file?
[20:23] <Marfi> girdy = internets - 1000
[20:23] <kulight> !torrents
[20:23] <weather15> Yes
[20:23] <acr0nym> I get the torrent
[20:23] <xcdfgkjhgcv> I've partitioned my HDD into one ext3 / and one ext3 /home. Is it okay if I boot a Live CD and make the /home smaller and make the / bigger?
[20:23] <weather15> Yes I get the ISO File
[20:23] <whattey> same
[20:23] <karim> lu
[20:23] <Marfi> Slart: torrent here
[20:23] <BobCFC> Slartybartfast I get a torrent
[20:23] <karim> commhi
[20:24] <Marfi> xcdfgkjhgcv: yes
[20:24] <Slart> thanks guys/girls.. wonder why I get the iso file...
[20:24] <girdy> why does rhythmbox keep asking me to install a suitable plugin?
[20:24] <girdy> is there a way to make that window go away?
[20:24] <girdy> cuz it asks multiple times
[20:24] <Schuyler> Slart: the same thing happened to me
[20:24] <graingert> girdy, install the plugin then
[20:24] <girdy> and i keep hitting "cancel"
[20:24] <Marfi> girdy: If you don't want mp3 support, then yes, x out of it.
[20:24] <BobCFC> girdy, MP3s need a plugin first time they are played
[20:24] <Schuyler> Slart: I wget'ed the torrent link and got the iso instead
[20:24] <iandan> I have upgraded to Ubuntu 9.04 and I have a problem of key mapping: Fn+F8, which should increase screen's brightenes now does nothing. Any idea?
[20:24] <graingert> girdy, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:24] <Schuyler> however the ISO is pulling down at 10 Mb, so I decided to just leave it :)
[20:25] <girdy> Marfi: i have mp3 support, it's asking me to install a WMA DRM plugin
[20:25] <orudie> whats the difference between ubuntu desktop and kubuntu
[20:25] <Slart> Schuyler: strange.. perhaps some kind of website caching thingy..
[20:25] <graingert> Schuyler, what link was it
[20:25] <girdy> graingert: restricted extras is already installed
[20:25] <Marfi> girdy: then install it. never know when you will need it
[20:25] <sebsebseb> iandan: upgraded from which version?
[20:25] <pawel__> bye
[20:25] <graingert> orudie, one uses gnome the other kde4
[20:25] <scunizi> Schuyler: you should try downloading with bittorrent or something similar.. much faster
[20:25] <lucax> why didnt developers just wait until they had it all ok before releasing something so unstable!?
[20:25] <girdy> Marfi: how? when i select "search for a suitable plugin" nothing comes up
[20:25] <graingert> !kubuntu | orudie
[20:25] <BobCFC> orudie, K has KDE instead of gnome
[20:25] <MaT-dg> my mouse cursor dissappears when firefox is loading a page (jaunty)
[20:25] <iandan> sebsebseb: from 8.10 to 9.04
[20:25] <alinon> lucax: new release unstable for you i take it?
[20:26] <graingert> MaT-dg, I used to get that
[20:26] <Slart> lucax: it's not working for you?
[20:26] <lucax> at all
[20:26] <graingert> MaT-dg, I can't remember what caused/fixed it
[20:26] <Marfi> I must depart...have fun, yall
[20:26] <alinon> PFFTT
[20:26] <alinon> at all?!
[20:26] <orudie> so which one is prettier k or gnome ?
[20:26] <lucax> Slart, i cant swtich between users, and cant run compiz
[20:26] <graingert> orudie, depends on them
[20:26] <Slart> lucax: nvidia graphics? ati?
[20:26] <Schuyler> scunizi: that's what I'm saying, I went to download http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent and it redirected me to http://d2j60aaoklmkol.cloudfront.net/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso
[20:26] <girdy> Marfi: how do i install a Protected WMA plugin? do you know?
[20:26] <BobCFC> orudie, careful you will start a fight like that
[20:26] <Dreamglider> Hey and Happy Ubuntu's day :)
[20:26] <Schuyler> which is the iso image
[20:26] <lucax> Slart, intel
[20:26] <graingert> orudie, kde4 focussed on eye candy and being a bastard to run
[20:26] <alinon> could be a graphics driver issue lucax
[20:26] <girdy> Marfi: no plugins show up under "search"
[20:26] <g4lv4tr0n> dronix its jaunty
[20:27] <wallacejbj> ectospasm what was that command line in terminal again for finding out which dev my burner is set to?  just want to keep the command handy incase i need it again, it was something like "ls /dev/dvd
[20:27] <Schuyler> but as it happens 10 megabits is waaay faster than the torrent was earlier
[20:27] <Slart> lucax: there was a warning about intel cards and jaunty.. can't remember the details though
[20:27] <ectospasm> wallacejbj: you can try "ls -al /dev/dvd*"
[20:27] <dronix> yeah I got it g41v4tr0n thxs
[20:27] <BobCFC> wallacejbj, type mount
[20:27] <ectospasm> wallacejbj:  the -l option is key
[20:27] <lucax> great... great...
[20:27] <orudie> so which is recommended by official ubuntu, gnome or k ?
[20:27] <ectospasm> the -a may be superfluous.
[20:27] <slash0031> Yo people, I cannot get wallpaper tray to work on 9.04. How can I fix this?
[20:27] <wallacejbj> your a star mate thanks it worked a treat before
[20:27] <g4lv4tr0n> dronix yea my bad just got out the bath my irc was a bit behind lol
[20:27] <alinon> lucax on a laptop i take it?
[20:27] <scunizi> Schuyler: weird.. check pirate bay.. someone uploaded the latest there too
[20:27] <girdy> anyone know how to install a WMA-DRM decoder in ubuntu?
[20:28] <alienkid> how do I make the home folder, trash, and file system appear on the desktop?
[20:28] <xcdfgkjhgcv> scunizi: Isn't it now illegal to download torrents off TPB?
[20:28] <girdy> by decoder, i mean a plugin for rhythmbox. does one exist?
[20:28] <wallacejbj> i'm quite new to ubuntu and trying my best to learn but as always i'm coming back to your guys for help and your always there to get me by
[20:28] <g4lv4tr0n> girdy checkout the wiki
[20:28] <scunizi> xcdfgkjhgcv: downloading a legal torrent? don't think so
[20:28] <g4lv4tr0n> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty
[20:28] <MaT-dg> graingert: in jaunty or a previous release?
[20:28] <loafers> Session manager = Display Manager?
[20:28] <girdy> g4lv4tr0n: the wiki on WMA-DRM?
[20:28] <g4lv4tr0n> i think its restricted extras
[20:29] <xcdfgkjhgcv> scunizi: "Since filing a criminal complaint in Sweden in November 2004, the film industry has worked vigorously with Swedish and U.S. government officials in Sweden to shut this illegal website down."
[20:29] <alinon> i think torrents have gotten such a bad reputation that the general population just thinks they are illegal even if then content in the torrent is open source
[20:29] <g4lv4tr0n> i think WMA support is in restricted extras
[20:29] <danbhfive> girdy: have you tried medibuntu?
[20:29] <alinon> zoMG o·.o
[20:29] <thurston> Hello, I am trying to upgrade from Ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04. All my updates are in order. There is a connectivity related error that I get, which always appears at the same point. This is the message I get in the error window : W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:29] <thurston> , W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:29] <thurston> , W:Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:29] <thurston> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. Please help.
[20:29] <FloodBot2> thurston: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:29] <Slart> !pastebin | thurston
[20:29] <mib_4a6rub> i upgrade to the latest release today.My X stops working, hung on login screen. how do i save my box ?
[20:30] <justanothercoder> hello, i have an ubuntu laptop that has an user logged in and a session running. is there anyway i can login to the laptop via remote ssh and then grab a screenshot of the session running there?
[20:30] <girdy> danbhfive: medubuntu, how do i install it?
[20:30] <orudie> so which is recommended by official ubuntu, gnome or k ?
[20:30] <alinon> gnome ofcourse
[20:30] <BobCFC> orudie, gnome is the default
[20:30] <Slart> orudie: gnome for ubuntu, kde for kubuntu, xfce for xubuntu
[20:30] <rski> orudie: none is recomended
[20:30] <danbhfive> girdy: medibuntu
[20:30] <rski> orudie: use what you want
[20:31] <uni4dfx> everyone shut down your computers so my upgrade packages can download faster!! :D
[20:31] <Slart> orudie: they are all supported
[20:31] <Dreamglider> im making a new partition and then a copy of the current ubuntu setup, then ill try to update to 9.04. crossing fingers.:)
[20:31] <lucax> i miss hardy
[20:31] <negge> justanothercoder: I don't think that's possibly (atleast not without somehow restarting the other session atleast once), but I might be wrong
[20:31] <alinon> if you want a windows clones use kde, if you want something that easier to skin, use gnome
[20:31] <girdy> danbhfive: is it just sudo apt-get install medibuntu?
[20:31] <graingert> girdy, no
[20:31] <Slart> !medibuntu | girdy
[20:31] <BobCFC> orudie, you find about 60% use gnome, 30% Kde and 10% xfce other on ubuntu
[20:31] <girdy> ubottu: thanks!
[20:31] <SN0WB4LL> hi, why I haven't got sound in ubuntu 9.04?
[20:32] <deany> vlc has a seperate window for playin videos, yet its set to "integrate video into main display"..
[20:32] <justanothercoder> negge : so there is no way i can attach to an existing session?
[20:32] <g4lv4tr0n> Dreamglider there is a way to save/backup a list of instaled apps then do clean install and use the backed up list to automate the app installs
[20:32] <Guza> i dont have access to my dvd rom
[20:32] <scunizi> xcdfgkjhgcv: yes.. so they will monitor you downloading a legal torrent.. what are they going to do send a cease and dissist order to you?
[20:32] <g4lv4tr0n> you can do this with synaptic
[20:32] <lucax> how do i enable control alt backspace again?
[20:32] <sl00> Hi again. I am trying to install using another monitor now. It works kinda okey but GDM seem to set a resolution which is too high even though I only have 1027x768, 1280x1024 and 1360x768 in /etc/X11/xorg.conf...Why is that? xrandr also show modes that is not in the xorg.conf and not supported by the monitor!?!
[20:32] <Guza> how can i fix this
[20:32] <irmandos> !isitout
[20:32] <BobCFC> vlc there is a bug in 0.9.6 version of VLC they did that on perpose, if you get 1.0 beta it is fixed but not in Jaunty because still beta
[20:32] <negge> justanothercoder: not remotely afaik. Atleast not with SSH. If you would have enabled "remote desktop sharing" on the running session you could have remotely attached to the session using a VNC client
[20:32] <Dreamglider> g4lv4tr0n: how ?
[20:32] <Guza> when i login as root i can see files on dvd
[20:32] <sl00> How can I have GDM use 1360x768 or lower ?
[20:33] <xcdfgkjhgcv> scunizi: They could do. I got the torrent from an illegal source.
[20:33] <weather15> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes < Needs to be updated
[20:33] <sl00> And how do I get rid of modes like 1600x1200 which are not supported?
[20:33] <justanothercoder> negge : if remote desktop sharing is enabled, can i login without alerting the current user?
[20:33] <weather15> There a setting for that
[20:33] <scunizi> xcdfgkjhgcv: I don't know where you're at but in the US legal site or not makes no difference.. it's a legal torrent.
[20:33] <Guza> can someone help me
[20:33] <Guza> ?
[20:33] <g4lv4tr0n> Dreamglider i think its save markings as in synaptic
[20:33] <sebsebseb> !ask |  Guza
[20:33] <Cryovat> Hey
[20:33] <negge> justanothercoder: I think so. When enabling desktop sharing you can choose whether the user using the session should be notified via a popup or not
[20:33] <Cryovat> Anyone here installed 9.04 on an Eee 900?
[20:33] <g4lv4tr0n> can anyone confirm this ^
[20:34] <negge> sebsebseb: he already asked...
[20:34] <JPZ`> Hello everyone. I accidently chmod /var/log. and now im unable to view my logs via the GUI log viewer. What is the default chmod value for /var/log ?
[20:34] <MaT-dg> CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE isn't working in jaunty?
[20:34] <rski> MaT-dg: nope
[20:34] <BobCFC> xcdfgkjhgcv, goto bittorrent.com it's a proper company
[20:34] <dronix> JPZ: 644
[20:34] <danbhfive> !notes | MaT-dg
[20:34] <rski> MaT-dg: you need to add it back if you want it
[20:34] <sebsebseb> Cryovat: I expect hardly anyone has.  9.04 only released today.  and people who were trying when in development I expect like no one did on a EEPC
[20:34] <scunizi> xcdfgkjhgcv: until the site no longer exists or is totally blocked by the internet police, it's accessable
[20:34] <orudie> i'm thinking about installing ubuntu dekstop today , should i do it ?
[20:34] <justanothercoder> negge : can i set desktop sharing to be enabled by default for all users?
[20:34] <Cryovat> I'm running the live version on an Eee 900 and lags a lot
[20:34] <JPZ`> dronix, thanks
[20:34] <g4lv4tr0n> Dreamglider ill check quick 2 secs
[20:34] <xcdfgkjhgcv> scunizi: LOL in my country, it's illegal to rip/burn a CD!!!
[20:34] <EeeUser300> Hi, is there already a method to install 9.04 final via usb stick?
[20:35] <Guza> sebsebseb: well i cant access to my dvd rom as user only as root i can access to my dvd. can u help me to solve this problem
[20:35] <shell_user> UNETBOOTING
[20:35] <sebsebseb> !install |  EeeUser300
[20:35] <negge> justanothercoder: I don't know if the settings are global for all users or not. You could try. Or you could edit the appropriate configuration file for the user you want but I don't know exactly which one it is.
[20:35] <shell_user> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UNETBOOTING  FOR LIVE FROM USB STICK<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
[20:35] <g4lv4tr0n> Dreamglider http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Reinstalling_applications_after_a_fresh_install
[20:35] <Slart> orudie: try a live cd first.. there will be less crying if it doesn't work that way
[20:35] <g4lv4tr0n> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Jaunty#Reinstalling_applications_after_a_fresh_install
[20:35] <mrwes> no updates today from the RC aye?
[20:35] <xcdfgkjhgcv> There's too many people here.
[20:35] <Cryovat> It feels really sluggish
[20:35] <shell_user> he
[20:35] <shell_user> xdfg
[20:35] <shell_user> sdg
[20:35] <shell_user> sdfg
[20:35] <shell_user> sdf
[20:35] <FloodBot2> shell_user: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:35] <Slart> orudie: never just upgrade your one-and-only live system
[20:35] <aDeck> what`s the username and password for ubuntu 9.04 livecd ? :/
[20:35] <mrwes> aDeck, there isn't one
[20:35] <g4lv4tr0n> Cryovat good to see you still here its been a while :)
[20:35] <shell_user> no
[20:35] <sebsebseb> Guza: your DVD drive is not being detected?
[20:36] <alinon> i wonder if anyone has upgraded without **any issues yet
[20:36] <Slart> shell_user: broken keyboard? drunk? just annoying?
[20:36] <Champain> I have
[20:36] <mrwes> alinon, I have
[20:36] <sebsebseb> alinon: of course
[20:36] <Cryovat> Hi g4lv4tr0n :-)
[20:36] <Slart> aDeck: don't think there is one
[20:36] <HBX> whats the torrent link for jaunty
[20:36] <Guza> sebsebseb: no just i cant access to them
[20:36] <sebsebseb> I wonder how many people are running 9.04 on Ext4 :d
[20:36] <shell_user> im no just fun
[20:36] <Slart> aDeck: it asks you for one?
[20:36] <BobCFC> aDeck, blank password
[20:36] <Guza> sebsebseb: i dont have permisions
[20:36] <Slart> !torrents
[20:36] <negge> HBX: check the topic
[20:36] <bsanders> whats the md5sum of the i386 desktop iso for jaunty?
[20:36] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  Guza
[20:36] <alinon> sebsebseb: ya think so? cool maybe there's hope for me yet ;)
[20:36] <Champain> 9.04 fixed the issue with my external HDD :D
[20:36] <Royall> Is Jaunty supposed to be downloading uber slow?
[20:36] <HBX> thanks
[20:36] <negge> Royall: it's slow for me too
[20:36] <uni4dfx> royall: yes
[20:36] <Royall> In fact, it's not downloading at all for me
[20:36] <sebsebseb> alinon: uh???
[20:36] <uni4dfx> everyone stop upgrading
[20:36] <Slart> Royall: you and the rest of the world is getting it at the same time.. it'll be slow for a whike
[20:37] <Dougshell> i assume things are just bogged down
[20:37] <weather15> Yes slow for me to
[20:37] <uni4dfx> so i can upgrade faster
[20:37] <bill102299> can anyone hearme?
[20:37] <BobCFC> Royall, I got the torrent at 2MB a sec
[20:37] <misbach> Where do I download the netbook remix ISO (not the IMG)?
[20:37] <Dougshell> yeah it has stalled forme
[20:37] <shoulah> why i can't obtain the torrent file for 9.04
[20:37] <mrwes> heh uni4dfx
[20:37] <Guza> sebsebseb: i know that and cdrom is readonly fs
[20:37] <happosade> Royall: Try torrent. I think that servers are down for few days now.
[20:37] <aDeck> i tried: ubuntu, linux, root nothing seems to work :/
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Guza: ok  need to give it permissons
[20:37] <Royall> BobCFC: I don't wanna start from scratch though
[20:37] <sebsebseb> Guza: you know how to edit fstab?
[20:37] <Slart> aDeck: root? ubuntu uses sudo
[20:37] <Guza> yes
[20:37] <orudie> Slart: i have vista installed, i want to keep that and install ubuntu as dual boot
[20:37] <kkdue> sudo passwd root
[20:37] <kkdue> :D
[20:37] <Bruners> best place to start if i lost my sound after upgrading to 9.04 ?
[20:37] <happosade> Slart: maybe sudo su?
[20:37] <Slart> orudie: still.. try the live cd first
[20:37] <Guza> what to type
[20:37] <Guza> ?
[20:37] <BobCFC> shoulah, try  http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[20:38] <Slart> happosade: sigh.. no.. wrong.. man sudo for goodness
[20:38] <sebsebseb> Guza: also the  giving nautilus  root   thing gksudo  and then changing your permissions for the drive graphicalley, that might work
[20:38] <aDeck> ok, tried sudo and blank pass too
[20:38] <orudie> Slart: are you saying it may not work ?
[20:38] <alinon> orudie: have you thought about using wubi?
[20:38] <Slart> !root
[20:38] <Royall> happosade: Do I need to start from scratch from the ISO?
[20:38] <HBX> will i lose my setting if i do an upgrade
[20:38] <orudie> alinon: whats wubi ?
[20:38] <happosade> Slart: yap, i know, but someone use root :X
[20:38] <Royall> happosade: Or can I upgrade using the ISO?
[20:38] <sebsebseb> !wubi >  orudie
[20:38] <sebsebseb> orudie: I woudn't normalley recommend installing Ubuntu with wubi
[20:38] <kkdue> sudo passwd root if you want to risk
[20:38] <kkdue> :D
[20:38] <alinon> orudie: allows you to install ubuntu from within vista
[20:38] <Flannel> Royall: You can upgrade with the alternate CD, but not the desktop CD.
[20:38] <Slart> happosade: people do all kinds of stupid things.. yesterday I walked into a lamp post
[20:39] <sebsebseb> alinon: it's better to partition a hard disk for real
[20:39] <Slart> happosade: =)
[20:39] <Dreamglider> g4lv4tr0n: can you paste that link again ?
[20:39] <alinon> sebsebseb: true, but for beginniner...
[20:39] <HBX> so should i download the alternate cd
[20:39] <happosade> Slart: I fell with my bike. :P
[20:39] <sebsebseb> alinon: yes even for beginner
[20:39] <HBX> whats the alternate cd's torrent link
[20:39] <sebsebseb> alinon: a dual boot is not that difficult to set up
[20:39] <bsanders> anyone know where I can find the md5sums for the released isos?
[20:39] <Slart> HBX: if you want a text mode installer.. yes
[20:39] <alinon> sebsebseb: it's gain allot of popularity, so i presume it's not too bad haha
[20:39] <Jeruvy> sebsebseb: I'd disagree, but opinions are just that :)  wubi is a great and easy way to dual boot without all the dumb MBR breaking.
[20:39] <Guza> yes but this is not solutions
[20:39] <mrwes> http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent
[20:39] <uni4dfx> HBX: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-releases/jaunty/
[20:40] <Slart> HBX: or you need to install ubuntu on a computer with less than 128Mb memory.. or use some other weird install options
[20:40] <kulight> !ubuto
[20:40] <sebsebseb> Jeruvy: if  Windows is not fragmented.  Ubuntu can be slow. if Windows get a nasty virus that deltes  it,  well  bye bye Ubuntu
[20:40] <Slart> !torrents
[20:40] <alinon> *gained too...
[20:40] <kulight> !ubotu
[20:40] <racecar56> anyone know how to make all removable media allow me to make directories and all without being root?
[20:40] <orudie> so wubi is like a vm ? or is it better ?
[20:40] <psychic> can someone help me correct my screen size
[20:40] <xemacs4321> <<< donating large pipe to torrent pool
[20:40] <sebsebseb> alinon: who  are you going to listen to, someone that is pretty new to Ubuntu  telling you that Wubi is good,  or someone like me, who has used Ubuntu since the second release in 2005?
[20:41] <happosade> How long takes to make Gnome from sources @ 2,7GHz duacore
[20:41] <racecar56> !root > me
[20:41] <psychic> its got a black border around it
[20:41] <racecar56> lol
[20:41] <alinon> orudie: better, there is a performance hit and no 3-d graphics
[20:41] <happosade> !source > me
[20:41] <alinon> or atleast last i checked
[20:41] <sebsebseb> alinon: I woudn't normalley recommend wubi, but sometimes there is a good reason for it
[20:41] <shoulah> thank you but i wanna say that the torrent links on the official ubuntu site didn't work with me thank u again
[20:41] <Flannel> happosade: We have no idea.  Whats wrong with the binary packages?
[20:41] <orudie> alinon: no 3d graphics in wibu ?
[20:41] <Jeruvy> sebsebseb: Thats the same for 'any' windows app.   That doesn't mean wubi is worse than dual booting.  Nuking windows and sticking to ubuntu would tho :)
[20:41] <racecar56> yeah
[20:41] <Guest41960> me <o_0>
[20:41] <kulight> !torrents
[20:42] <racecar56> anyone know how to make all removable media allow me to make directories and all without being root?
[20:42] <happosade> Flannel: for tweaking :) And just for fun.
[20:42] <bsanders> !ubottu
[20:42] <orudie> wubi i mean
[20:42] <alinon> orudie: check out wubi-installer.org for more info
[20:42] <sebsebseb> Jeruvy: if people are going to have  Ubuntu inside Windows, then maybe they should run a virtual machine rather than Wubi
[20:42] <sl00> Guys... why is xrandr (and te screen resolution program) displaying modes that are not supported (and modes not even in xorg.conf) ?!?
[20:42] <sebsebseb> Jeruvy: at least that way they can run both OS's at the same time
[20:43] <alinon> orudie: it's not for everyone, but it doesn't do anything permanant so it's worth a try
[20:43] <Dreamglider> g4lv4tr0n: can you paste that link again pls (you can pm it to me also if you want)
[20:43] <sebsebseb> Jeruvy: of course really  Windows should be the guest, unless it's  on say a 3D  Windows gaming machine
[20:43] <psychic> anyone know how to fix display sizing problems???
[20:43] <orudie> alinon: so with wubi i'll be able to use desktop effects like compiz and stuff right ?
[20:43] <mrwes> 4722 seeders  hehe
[20:44] <sebsebseb> orudie: yes probably
[20:44] <racecar56> anyone know how to make all removable media allow me to make directories and all without being root?
[20:44] <moxfalder> 9.04 really fast !
[20:44] <racecar56> anyone know how to make all removable media allow me to make directories and all without being root?
[20:44] <racecar56> ooops
[20:44] <racecar56> sorry for repeat
[20:44] <sourcemaker> isnt there any easy way to configure wlan in ubuntu? (command line) ?????
[20:44] <alinon> orduie: there's some known issues with compiz, but it does work
[20:44] <sebsebseb> orudie: ,but  your still running Ubuntu in a section of your Windows partition, which for varous reasons isn't really the best idea
[20:44] <thiebaude> moxfalder: yup
[20:44] <sourcemaker> !wlan
[20:44] <sebsebseb> orudie: expesailly when setting up a proper partitioned dual boot, is not exactly difficult
[20:44] <LordMetro> Stupid me
[20:45] <racecar56> !windows > me
[20:45] <shoulah> i use wicd for manage my wireless connection
[20:45] <LordMetro> I upgraded Ubuntu without backing up my data
[20:45] <LordMetro> Now I canät come past IO APIC
[20:45] <cannonball> A coworker downloaded the Desktop ISO.  It does not allow me to do any type of upgrade, only install new or side by side.  The "getubuntu/upgrading" webpage mentions the alternate cd/dvd.  Is alternate required to do an upgrade?
[20:45] <Jeruvy> sebsebseb: how would a virtual machine be 'different' than a wubi-managed disk?
[20:45] <LordMetro> IO APIC resource could not be allocated.
[20:45] <orudie> sebsebseb: will ubuntu desktop installation cd prompt me if I want to set up dual boot? i want to plug in a dedicated hard drive for ubuntu
[20:45] <LordMetro> Gave up waiting for root device
[20:45] <negge> has anyone noticed any regressions with Vmware Workstation 6.5 after upgrading to Jaunty?
[20:45] <LordMetro> And then I am in the initramfs shell
[20:46] <LordMetro> What do I do?
[20:46] <frostburn> i'm getting this error here when opening http://paste.ubuntu.com/156723/
[20:46] <thiebaude> LordMetro: you have an intel video card?
[20:46] <sebsebseb> Jeruvy: Ubuntu virtualmachines and wubi  are good for trying, but shoudn't really be used for proper long term usage
[20:46] <LordMetro> Maybe, I am not sure
[20:46] <MIshtal> Hi there, I've been using for Ubuntu since gutsy, and regularly beta (and also occasionally alpha) test. When I upgraded my laptop to the jaunty beta a month or so ago, Booting gave me scrambled graphics until I dropped to the root recovery console and removed xorg-driver-flgrx. Now that jaunty's been officially released, when I tried installing the package I get the same results at boot.
[20:46] <MIshtal> Does anyone have any info on whether xorg-driver-flgrx is supported in jaunty? are we completely switching  to the open source drivers? Is this an issue unique to me? Is there perhaps a configuration setting i missed?
[20:46] <LordMetro> It is the laptop so I never really used the video card
[20:46] <Jeruvy> negge: we had one machine barf, I'm not looking into it.  But one of many isn't too bad :)
[20:46] <DarthFrog> negge: VMware 6.5 works for me, under Kubunut
[20:46] <tidbeck> I have a ATI mobility card and have problem with performance. I set accelmethod to XAA wich helped a little, anyone got some more tips?
[20:47] <alinon> dang that's twice now that the download for my upgrade has quit all together :(
[20:47] <LordMetro> I mean, I never taken notice to what video card it is
[20:47] <sebsebseb> orudie: I normalley manualley partition  the hard disks :)    more control, but  I think a guided install can  even do the dual boot
[20:47] <iListenU> Please help, i get problem in: http://parduoduv.puslapiai.lt at header error. (top). What can it be?
[20:47] <negge> DarthFrog: on Jaunty?
[20:47] <sebsebseb> orudie: setting  partitions up manualley is a good idea :) since more control, plus with 9.04  you can choose to have the optional Ext4 file system instead of the defualt Ext3
[20:48] <DarthFrog> negge: Yep.  Ran fine in the beta/RC and now release.
[20:48] <orudie> so ext4 is better ?
[20:48] <orudie> sebastien: ^^
[20:48] <ripps> tidbeck: If your using EXA and the opensource driver, I reccomend enabling AccelDFS in xorg.conf. I greatly speeds up things like Flash
[20:48] <Daskreech> Si there no Flgrx in jaunty ?
[20:48] <Daskreech> !fglrx
[20:48] <LordMetro> How can I backup my data when I am stuck in initramfs?
[20:48] <sebsebseb> orudie:   apparnatly their are a few issues with it,  well  the file system is good, but the kernel Ubuntu uses needs some changes apparnatly.  however loads of people have got on just fine with Ext4
[20:48] <alinon> ext4 hasn't been extenstively tested yet, use at your own risk
[20:48] <minimec> MIshtal: Probably your card is not supported anymore (like my x1250) http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.7&product=<IP_ADDRESS>.3.3.1&lang=English
[20:48] <tidbeck> ripps: Ok, thank you I will try that
[20:49] <negge> DarthFrog: great. I've been running a Vista x64 guest, hope it's still all good after upgrading. I've had some issues with exiting fullscreen when I have desktop effects and TV-out enabled simultaneosly, would be great if that problems would go away
[20:49] <ripps> Daskreech: fgrlx only works with rv600+ cards in Jaunty, AMD removed support for older cards
[20:49] <Guza> what i need to edit in fs tab to all users can access dvd drive?????????
[20:49] <a-stray-cat1> anyone else getting an error that the 9.04-desktop-amd64 torrent file is invalid?
[20:49] <weather15>  /join xubuntu
[20:49] <mrwes> !mount
[20:49] <sebsebseb> orudie: 9.04 in a way is a bit pointless on Ext3,  since  8.10 is good enough on Ext3.   one of the major features of  9.04 is Ext4
[20:49] <Daskreech> ripps: Sooo ubuntu doesn't carry it anymore?
[20:49] <DarthFrog> negge: Can't say about any interaction that way.  I have desktop effects turned off and no TV card in this machine.
[20:49] <alinon> if you didn't mind just backing up stuff in vista you don't want to lose, i suggest just installing Ubuntu by itself, and running like XP or vista in virtualbox
[20:50] <alinon> who needs that virus ridden OS ;p
[20:50] <girdy> it's a nice day out im going out side later people
[20:50] <MIshtal1> minimec: do you remember the command off hand to find which card i have? I got my laptop 3 years ago and don't recall.
[20:50] <orudie> sebastien -> so you saying there isnt many changes from8.10 to 9.04 ?
[20:50] <DarthFrog> alinon: Gamers do.
[20:50] <BobCFC> oche vista in virtual is a killa, make it xp
[20:50] <negge> DarthFrog: okay. Guess my situation isn't the most common one. Disabling desktop effects or TV-out fixes it though so it's not a showstopper
[20:50] <sebsebseb> orudie: Ext4 is meant to be faster,  have faster  disk checking and things.
[20:50] <ripps> Daskreech: No, jaunty comes with catalyst 9.4, but you need to have one of the newer cards to use, otherwise the opensource works just as good with the older cards anyway.
[20:50] <zanberdo> BobCFC, thank you for the link to the ffmirror script.  I've adapted it to my needs and have created my own mirror list.  I"m running the test now. this should do the trick
[20:50] <minimec> MIshtal1: lspci |grep VGA
[20:50]  * mikemikemike1234 <o_0>
[20:50] <mrwes> MIshtal1, lspci | grep VGA
[20:50] <alinon> DarthFrog: i can play games in virtualbox lol
[20:50] <orudie> sebastien -> yeah i'll probably try that
[20:50] <BobCFC> zanberdo, wow cool :)
[20:50] <DarthFrog> alinon: Games that require 3d?
[20:50] <bigos> hello!
[20:51] <Guza> i cant find mount options
[20:51] <racecar56> hi
[20:51] <alinon> DarthFrog: playing icwind dale 2 right now
[20:51] <orudie> sebsebseb -> keep typing the wrong nick lol
[20:51] <PorkChop_> hi guys
[20:51] <racecar56> hi
[20:51] <sebsebseb> orudie: quite a few changes under the hood,  but  user changes not as such,  but don't listen to me entirely yet, because  I  still have to get rid of this   upgraded  8.10 to  alpha6, to beta, to release candiate install.  that is running Ext3.  and clean install  and do Ext4
[20:51] <BobCFC> zanberdo, i was worried that response time != bandwith but for today it might help anyway
[20:51] <Miles1> hey
[20:51] <bigos> what could it be, when my system doesn't recognize my wifi card? its w lekcjach.
[20:51] <bigos> Zmiana ustaw: o powszechnym obowiązku obronnym oraz o kulturze fizycznej była konieczna, by nie doszło do niezgodności z mającym wejść w życie od 1 września br. rozporządzeniem ministra edukacji w sprawie podstaw programowych nauczania poszczególnych przedmiotów w szkole. Rozporządzenie to - wydane na podstawie ustawy o systemie oświaty - zawiera zapisy określające, jaki zakres wiedzy i u
[20:51] <PorkChop_> I have a question regarding network-manager and wireless networks
[20:51] <MIshtal1> Mimic you are right, its on the list. thanks for the info
[20:51] <alinon> æævirtualboxææ ææfTWææ
[20:51] <bigos> awwww
[20:51] <bigos> sorry
[20:51] <FloodBot2> bigos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:51] <DarthFrog> alinon: Interesting.  What compromises do you have to make to do that?
[20:51] <SeViLLa> hey is it just me or is the update repository downloading slow
[20:51] <PorkChop_> i have configured 2 networks (one with wep and one with wpa)
[20:51] <Miles1> SeVilla same for me
[20:51] <racecar56> SeViLLa, not you
[20:51] <PorkChop_> it all works well
[20:51] <orudie> sebsebseb -> why do you have to go through all that ?
[20:51] <mrwes> SeViLLa, it's slow
[20:52] <alinon> none actually, i give virtualbox 1gig of ram and 256mb of video memory
[20:52] <MIshtal1> minimec: your right, its on the list thanks for the information
[20:52] <uni4dfx> Sevilla, what did you expect, everyone's upgrading
[20:52] <minimec> MIshtal1: np
[20:52] <alinon> which is nothing for my system
[20:52] <skaidrius> i cant get the video working. im gettin blank screen vith audio or nothing at all
[20:52] <PPT`away> anyone have a minute (or two :P) to help me out, i'm trying to get my wired connection on a computer to work, ifconfig is showing what i presume the errors to be in "TX errors:17 etc carrier:17"
[20:52] <sebsebseb> orudie: ,because I  got 9.04 early when  on alpha6,  and  some of the bugs  have remained.  and I need to clean install anyway for full Ext4 suppourt :)
[20:52] <skaidrius> with jaunty
[20:52] <Miles1> if we even installed rc, we can just update to standard release
[20:52] <SeViLLa> k i just wanted to make sure
[20:52] <admin_masu3701> what are the new features that 9.04 brings compare to 8.10?
[20:52] <mrwes> !Jaunty
[20:52] <Daskreech> !changelog
[20:52] <racecar56> admin_masu3701, newer stuffs
[20:52] <zanberdo> BobCFC, yeah, probably not a problem.  I'm just trying to avoid the bottle neck which will be prevalent over the next week... I'm not even upgrading! I just need to install the periodic package on an established server.
[20:52] <PorkChop_> except that if I click on a the network name in the list of all detected network, it creates another entry, instead of using my configured one
[20:52] <thedust> hello i wanted to know how do you change the drive you want to install ubuntu to?
[20:53] <acr0nym> admin_masu3701, google :) but mainly, faster bootup times, and the use of ext4 plus a boatload of driver fixes
[20:53] <racecar56> thedust, ez
[20:53] <racecar56> !install
[20:53] <DarthFrog> !torrents
[20:53] <xemacs4321> torrent of the ISO image best way to go for upgrade !!!
[20:53] <BobCFC> zanberdo, good luck
[20:53] <jpnub> Does anyone here use multi-monitors with the new notification system
[20:53] <moepMan1> hi folks... my girlfriend has ubuntu 9.04 installed but her 21" monitor just gives her a resolution of 800x600. she has a s3 savage 8 graphics adaptor and a hitachi cm823F monitor... can somebody please help?
[20:53] <sebsebseb> admin_masu3701: newer versin of Gnome,  fading backgrounds,  you can  put colour on the top nad bottom if a background is not  big enough.   new GDM screen.   KDE 4.2.  better atheros wireless suppourt, and things
[20:53] <zanberdo> BobCFC, thanks
[20:53] <sebsebseb> admin_masu3701: optional Ext4 file system
[20:53]  * mikemikemike1234 already upgraded....everything works apart from atheros 5006 wi-fi
[20:53] <orudie> sebsebseb -> so when do you think  you are going to do clean install, i'm thinking to do it in about 4 hours
[20:53] <alinon> DarthFrog: virtualbox has really come a long way for real! - it lets me keep that virus ridden OS confined !
[20:53] <Popoi> congratulations for the new release!!
[20:53] <PassePartouT> anyone have a minute (or two :P) to help me out, i'm trying to get my wired connection on a computer to work, ifconfig is showing what i presume the errors to be in "TX errors:17 etc carrier:17"
[20:53] <DarthFrog> alinon: As it should be. :-)
[20:54] <mikemikemike1234> so how do you get atheros cards to work now?
[20:54] <Miles1> i love intel wlan cards
[20:54] <DarthFrog> PassePartouT: Check your ethernet cable.
[20:54] <SeViLLa> acr0nym: the ext4 file system doesnt come by default though does it
[20:54] <moepMan1> hi folks... my girlfriend has ubuntu 9.04 installed but her 21" monitor just gives her a resolution of 800x600. she has a s3 savage 8 graphics adaptor and a hitachi cm823F monitor... can somebody please help?
[20:54] <jpnub> sevilla: no
[20:54] <Miles1> are there supposed to be any updates for 9.04rc?
[20:54] <office> sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic linux-backports-modules-`uname -r`
[20:54] <mikemikemike1234> no...u have to  make a clean install
[20:54] <office> sudo modprobe ath5k
[20:54] <PassePartouT> DarthFrog it should work fine, i had internet on winxp in the same setup not 24hrs ago
[20:55] <sebsebseb> orudie: I am not in a rush,  this install I got is  ok really,  I can do my actsaul computur usage with it.   however it's not quite the full experience, but by what I have seen of 9.04,  and  with all my Ubuntu experience I know that 9.04 isn't that amazing really.
[20:55] <tmadden> has anyone tried release 9.04 yet? is it stable?
[20:55] <admin_masu3701> nice....i hope my wireless card will work cause i had problem when i was using 9.04 beta..the card couldnt work
[20:55] <acr0nym> nope SeViLLa :) but as far as I remember you couldn't use it with 8.10
[20:55] <Miles1> lol it should be stable
[20:55] <sebsebseb> orudie: I probably clean install this weekend,  the download servers will be packed now
[20:55] <iGama> Miles1, if you have updated the system it is the final
[20:55] <mikemikemike1234> stable..
[20:55] <PassePartouT> DarthFrog could something else be stopping it? maybe a router? or does it sound like the cable
[20:55] <PorkChop_> does anybody know why clicking on a wireless network in network-manager it creates a new entry called "Auto <network-name>" if network is already configured?
[20:55] <iGama> tmadden, very stable
[20:55] <jpnub> tmadden: Has been for the past few months
[20:55] <Miles1> so i can update 9.04rc to final
[20:55] <Miles1> thanks
[20:55] <DarthFrog> PassePartouT: Do you have another one you can swap it with?  Check the connections.
[20:55] <Miles1> but updates are slow.... and cannot get repo info
[20:55] <orudie> sebsebseb -> yes, im actually updating my server its going only at 40 kb/s :(
[20:55] <uni4dfx> does mounting an ext3 filesystem as ext4 instead improve performance or do you need to enable the new ext4 features?
[20:55] <sebsebseb> admin_masu3701: yeah I hope so to, because the wireless issues' were so common with 8.10.  not Ubuntu's fault though,  wireless manufactures yes
[20:56] <PassePartouT> DarthFrog yeah i'll take a look for another then come back
[20:56] <moepMan1> my girlfriend has ubuntu 9.04 installed but her 21" monitor just gives her a resolution of 800x600. she has a s3 savage 8 graphics adaptor and a hitachi cm823F monitor... can somebody please help?
[20:56] <iGama> Miles1, did you do an update in the last 3 days?
[20:56] <DarthFrog> PassePartouT: It sounds like an ethernet issue, not a TCP/IP issue.
[20:56] <iGama> Miles1, if yes, you have the final version
[20:56] <Miles1> yes about 12 hours ago and got a couple
[20:56] <sebsebseb> uni4dfx: you can do something to Ext3 to get partial  Ext4 suppourt, you need to clean install and set up proper Ext4 partitions yourself, for the full experience
[20:56] <acr0nym> moepMan1, have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[20:56] <jpnub> PassePartouT: if you are using a pci ethernet card make sure it is plugged in all the way?
[20:57] <admin_masu3701> but i will give it a try again
[20:57] <admin_masu3701> hope it works fine
[20:57] <uni4dfx> sebsebseb: yeah i thought so
[20:57] <PorkChop_> another question: I upgraded to 9.04 today, but lsb_release -d says "Ubuntu jaunty (development branch)"
[20:57] <sebsebseb> uni4dfx: also apparnatly Ext4 well  the file system  I guess is alright, but Ubuntu's kernel needs some changes for it really
[20:57] <PassePartouT> jpnub i know the card is fine, i'll try the cable but i'm skeptical cause i know the cable works, hopefully i kicked it out or something, lol, let me go see what it says when it fails to connect
[20:57] <PorkChop_> this sounds like it's not the 9.04 final?
[20:57] <admin_masu3701> whats the deal with the ext4?
[20:57] <ubuntu_> hi all problem with instalation grub 22 error
[20:58] <sebsebseb> PorkChop_: maybe they forgot to update that
[20:58] <Destinatus> i can't get any kind of 3d/opengl to work.
[20:58] <KenBW2> can anyone help me getting Google Reader to work offline?
[20:58] <Destinatus> need some help
[20:58] <mrwes> hrmm...can't grab the alternate install iso torrent; anyone else have issues with that?
[20:58] <Champain> ext4 is new and buggy but its faster than ext3
[20:58] <sebsebseb> Destinatus: you got your graphics card driver installed?
[20:58] <BobCFC> mrwes, , try  http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969
[20:58] <Destinatus> sebsebseb: yes. nvidia 1.80
[20:58] <sebsebseb> Champain: it's an odd one, some people say it's buggy,  others say they use it, and that it works great
[20:58] <Miles1> 9.04 is supposed to be about ~4gb right
[20:58] <mrwes> BobCFC, gotcha -- thanks
[20:58] <uni4dfx> so bottom line: don't use ext4 yet
[20:59] <reinis> your download page sucks
[20:59] <alinon> hopefully by the time the next distro is out, ext4 will be stable
[20:59] <sebsebseb> Miles1:  for an upgrade or clean install?
[20:59] <reinis> where are the .torrents?
[20:59] <xemacs4321> Destinatus, i have complete torrent for am64 alternative
[20:59] <reinis> why doesn't it tell me the size of ISOs?
[20:59] <sebsebseb> Miles1: a clean install of Ubuntu takes up about 1GB
[20:59] <reinis> WTF
[20:59] <mrwes> BobCFC, that's the mutha load aye? heh
[20:59] <Miles1> install with 9.04rc, updated, then some prog tools
[20:59] <sebsebseb> reinis: the ISO will be like 700MB
[20:59] <scunizi> sebsebseb: the difference being some remember the beta testing and don't know anything about the fixes that have been done
[20:59] <Dada_> Hi there. I'm trying the new Ubuntu in a virtual machine. Apparently the user is logged out immediately after the boot is  complete. It's now looping between logging in the Live CD user and returning to the login screen. This a known problem? :)
[20:59] <sebsebseb> reinis: CD size
[21:00] <rski> Dada_: nope
[21:00] <CaneToad> better to upgrade online or from installation CD?
[21:00] <BobCFC> mrwes, yes the SHA1s seem to be wrong on that list get them from the other page if you need them
[21:00] <graingert> CaneToad, online
[21:00] <alinon> Dada_: why use virtualmachine? that's not a natural environment
[21:00] <rski> CaneToad: dosen't matter
[21:00] <reinis> sebsebseb: thanks, but that's not what I'm asking
[21:00] <sebsebseb> scunizi: what are you trying to say?  and yeah their is a lot of ignorance when it comes to Ext4 in 9.04,  if it's stable enough or not etc
[21:00] <PorkChop_> can somebody who did a clean install from scratch of 9.04 show me their output from lsb_release -d ?
[21:00] <Dada_> alinon: not natural environment, sure, but no other version has done that.
[21:00] <CaneToad> graingert: why do you say online?
[21:00] <BobCFC> mrwes, but torrent does error checking anyway bit pointless
[21:00] <wallacejbj> reinis 32 or 64 bit?
[21:00] <Destinatus> when i run glxdemo i get: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[21:00] <reinis> 32
[21:00] <wallacejbj> http://hr.releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[21:00] <Dada_> alinon: actually, "not natural environment" is sort of a moot point, don't you think?
[21:00] <mrwes> BobCFC, I'm all good now
[21:00] <graingert> CaneToad, becuase you lose data if you upgrade from cd
[21:01] <ccaron> Why does the alternate install upgrade insists on downloading packages?
[21:01] <alinon> Dada_: if the devs don't develope it for that intended virtual hardware, then nuff said
[21:01] <scunizi> sebsebseb: just saying that those saying ext4 is buggy don't always have personal experience.. they're just parroting previous reports b4 the fixes
[21:01] <KenBW2> can anyone help me getting Google Reader to work offline?
[21:01] <PassePartouT> DarthFrog it's saying "the network connection has been disconnected" now though i think it was saying something else before like that it couldn't get an address, the cable works because the lights on my hub are blinking, could my router be owning my connection?
[21:01] <BobCFC> i've been running ext4 for months without issue on 4 drives
[21:01] <sebsebseb> scunizi: apprnatlly  the file system is pretty good now really, but the kernel still needs some changes for Ext4 really?
[21:01] <iGama> PorkChop_, Description:	Ubuntu 9.04
[21:01] <Dada_> alinon: that's a bit of an easy way to talk yourself out of a very strange error that occurs only with the latest Ubuntu.
[21:01] <office> KenBW2, eys
[21:01] <office> KenBW2, yes
[21:02] <PorkChop_> iGama: thanks
[21:02] <KenBW2> office: cool, i have Gears installed and it works fine for gmail
[21:02] <Oded> PorkChop_, "Ubuntu 9.04"
[21:02] <Dada_> By the way, the new installer looks amazing guys.
[21:02] <Hexch> do some of you work with dreambox ?
[21:02] <CaneToad> graingert: are you saying there's no true upgrade path with the cd, only reinstall?
[21:02] <KenBW2> office: but google reader sort of half loads the page, but no feeds when offline
[21:02] <PorkChop_> i wonder why mine says Ubuntu jaunty (development branch) then :)
[21:02] <graingert> CaneToad, I think so, you can use the cd as a repo
[21:02] <ccaron> Anyone had success with the 9.04 alternate installer?
[21:02] <Dada_> Also, I see that the text anti-aliasing is now under different default settings, BIG +1 frmo me
[21:02] <DarthFrog>  Hmm, the system just threw up a notification but it cleared before I could read it.  How do I get it back??
[21:02] <sebsebseb> PorkChop_: did you have a previous development version?
[21:03] <scunizi> CaneToad: only the alternate install cd offers cd upgrades
[21:03] <PorkChop_> no
[21:03] <PorkChop_> i had 8.10
[21:03] <alinon> Dada_: feel however you want about it, but if you try submit a bug on launchpad, i'm sure you'll be ignored o.o
[21:03] <Jeruvy> KenBW2: I'm not sure if you could, wouldn't you have to pre-cache all the feeds locally or via proxy?
[21:03] <c_korn> does anyone else have no sound in jaunty?
[21:03] <sebsebseb> PorkChop_: ok  get someone else to  find out what it says for them, that did a clean install of the final
[21:03] <sebsebseb> !sound |  c_korn
[21:03] <PorkChop_> and about 6 hours ago I started upgrade by clicking "Ugrade Distribution" or something like that
[21:03] <KenBW2> Jeruvy: i mean using Google Gears
[21:04] <Dada_> alinon: I'm not sure about that! Users should be able to expect that there are no serious system breaking defects in virtualized hardware, right? It's not like Ubuntu is developed "only for real hardware", especially since virtualization is rather popular in some settings.
[21:04] <Oli``> I've had flash set up the same way since Pulseaudio came out (ie through ALSA). Is there any way of doing it without sending the audio through ALSA, and if so, what do I need to unbreak?
[21:04] <ccaron> Why does the alternate install upgrade insists on downloading packages?
[21:04] <Jeruvy> KenBW2: ah I haven't tried that myself..yet.
[21:04] <joseph14> hi
[21:04] <PassePartouT> need internet help with "the network connection has been disconnected" error and eth0 is showing TX carrier:XX errors
[21:04] <Praetor_Khan> What's the word on ext4?  I'm getting mixed signals everywhere I look.  Some ramble on about how much better it is while others are talking about it breaking there system.
[21:04] <graingert> Oli``, it goes flash->alsa->pulseaudio
[21:04] <xerxes> How can I configure sound, so it is enabled by default?
[21:04] <joseph14> my VGA card is not working after installing ubuntu 9.04
[21:04] <alinon> Dada_: they created the livecd for a reason, there's no reason to use anything else
[21:04] <c_korn> !Players | c_korn
[21:04] <negge> I have 8 GB of RAM installed and I'm using 64-bit Ubuntu. The system monitor is telling me I'm only using 11% of the memory, and then I have around 10 applications running including a Vista in a virtual machine which is booting at the moment. Shouldn't it be utilizing way more?
[21:04] <wallacejbj> probably a lazy thing to ask but is there a way or resizing multiple desktop icons at once? i know you can stretch one icon but not multiple at least not that i know of
[21:05] <alinon> if you are just wanting to test your hardware that is
[21:05] <saxin> Praetor_Khan: Well.. tbh its not that big diffrence...
[21:05] <ccaron> Why does the alternate install upgrade insists on downloading packages?
[21:05] <joseph14> but ubuntu 8.10 was working \
[21:05] <rski> negge: nope
[21:05] <Oli``> graingert: that's how I've got it set up... I was asking if Flash has improved enough so I could drop the ALSA component
[21:05] <matreya6> Well, it looks like the update servers are overloaded again...
[21:05] <scunizi> alinon: unless of course you want encryption, or lvm or other things that are only available on the alternate cd
[21:05] <graingert> negge, perhaps you have forgotton about cache
[21:05] <graingert> Oli``, no
[21:05] <Jeruvy> ccaron: probably because the sources.list is telling it to?
[21:05] <graingert> Oli``, :-p
[21:05] <Dada_> alinon: look, regardless, my argument is that it doesn't work and yours is that you don't care about my use case. I don't think the developers would make that argument!
[21:05] <SandGorgon_> !staff
[21:05] <negge> rski: so that means none of my programs need more at the moment?
[21:05] <wallacejbj> @matreya6 flash works loads better imo
[21:05] <negge> graingert: swap is at 0 MB
[21:05] <SandGorgon_> oops sorry
[21:05] <skaidrius> pls help. i cant play video on any player. they plays only sound or nothing. before jaunty all was ok
[21:05] <Pici> SandGorgon_: ?
[21:05] <qbrix> Will the amd64 version of Ubuntu work for my 64bit Xeon box?
[21:06] <negge> qbrix: yes
[21:06] <rski> yep
[21:06] <SandGorgon_> i was pasting somewhere else
[21:06] <qbrix> great, thx
[21:06] <Pici> SandGorgon_: Please don't use that.
[21:06] <iGama> qbrix, its for 64bits
[21:06] <alinon> Dada_: i highly doubt they would aknowledge it at all haha
[21:06] <PassePartouT> need internet help with "the network connection has been disconnected" error and eth0 is showing TX carrier:XX errors
[21:06] <ccaron> Should I do anything more than: gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade" ?
[21:06] <joseph14> my VGA card is not working after installing ubuntu 9.04   please help me !!
[21:06] <matreya6> wallacejbj, Uhm? What does does this have to do with a Jaunty Upgrade?
[21:06] <alinon> but opinions are like allot of things, everyone has one
[21:06] <kmwhite> joseph14: a little more info might help
[21:06] <joseph14> ok
[21:07] <sebsebseb> joseph14: graphics card you mean?
[21:07] <wallacejbj> sorry i thought you were asking if flash was any better
[21:07] <Dada_> alinon: actually, there are plenty of virtualization tickets in the Launchpad which have importance tags and committed fixes.
[21:07] <joseph14> my VGA card is not working in my laptop dell inspiron 1525
[21:07] <joseph14> sebsebseb ,yes
[21:07] <alinon> here's a cookie hehe
[21:07] <sebsebseb> joseph14: is it old?
[21:07] <PassePartouT> any suggestions please???? need internet help with "the network connection has been disconnected" error and eth0 is showing TX carrier:XX errors
[21:08] <PassePartouT> it is not a cable problem
[21:08] <matreya6> wallacejbj, Well, on that I have to say that the version of gnash that I use on my Ubu 8.10 box doesn't work with many sites.
[21:08] <joseph14> no
[21:08] <matreya6> wallacejbj, I hop that the new gnash version included with jaunty does a better job
[21:08] <PassePartouT> any suggestions please???? need internet help with "the network connection has been disconnected" error and eth0 is showing TX carrier:XX errors
[21:08] <alinon> while your there, submit a ticket of your own or find one that's already been submitted for the issue
[21:08] <joseph14> do wanna give you the info about the VGA card ?
[21:08] <c_korn> I checked all alsa settings but there is still no sound
[21:08] <sebsebseb> Gnash and Swfdec are nice, but will always be behind Adobe Flash.     yucky propritary formats
[21:09] <kmwhite> joseph14: please. Also, can you elaborate on 'not working'? Are you getting NO display at all, or Xorg fails to launch?
[21:09] <guntbert> !repeat | PassePartouT
[21:09] <theuser1>  i am trying to ssh making my pc as the server and as the client. i use dsl through a router (modem) . its stuck on  Connecting to <IP_ADDRESS> [<IP_ADDRESS>] port 22..i give my internet ip in ssh -v ip . can any one guidE?
[21:09] <mrwes> PassePartouT, you are on a cable modem? with or without a router behind that?
[21:09] <PassePartouT> cable with a router behind it
[21:09] <joseph14> i meant the visual effects
[21:09] <PassePartouT> wired connection
[21:09] <joseph14> kmwhite i meant the visual effects
[21:09] <ccppz> tooltips in kubuntu with kde4.2 are only showing for a fraction of a second (in GTKPod); is there a way to fix it?
[21:09] <Dada_> alinon: by the way, 666 pages matching my virtualization software in Launchpad (coincidence? :)
[21:10] <mrwes> PassePartouT, did you power each down everything, and then power back up; cable modem first, then the router, then the PC
[21:10] <joseph14> so that's mean the VGA card wan't work
[21:10] <minimec> joseph14: so you have working graphics but no visual effects?
[21:10] <xerxes> Dada: No, youre cursed
[21:10] <matreya6> sebsebseb, I agree with you on that, but many YouTube movies will only play correctly on Adobe Flash, not on Gnash
[21:10] <kmwhite> joseph14: Ok, so the graphics card is working, accelleration is not. Is this an intel card?
[21:10] <mrwes> PassePartouT, couple minutes inbetween each too
[21:10] <alinon> Dada_: like i said...here's a cookie :) and while your there find a ticket that relates to your problem or submit your own =D
[21:10] <joseph14> yep!
[21:10] <sebsebseb> matreya6: yep so use Adobe Flash
[21:10] <alinon> Geez!
[21:10] <joseph14> kmwhite yes
[21:10] <PassePartouT> mrwes ah maybe not, i'll try restarting once more, i did it the other way e.g. powered down cable, router but had pc on, i'll go try it again
[21:10] <Dada_> alinon: yes
[21:10] <joseph14> it's intel
[21:10] <progre55> so, is it out yet???
[21:11] <canfly> oh my.
[21:11] <mrwes> PassePartouT, it's more about the order when you power back up
[21:11] <progre55> I mean, Jaunty :)
[21:11] <joseph14> is there any solution ?
[21:11] <kmwhite> joseph14: do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file or no?
[21:11] <PassePartouT> mrwes because the error message that pops up in a bubble did change after i restarted the modem and router
[21:11] <Dada_> ack. no advanced search?
[21:11] <billybigrigger> whats the best way to restart my soundsystem?
[21:11] <nightrid3r> progre55: yup
[21:11] <mrwes> PassePartouT, gotta do the pc last
[21:11] <dtchen> billybigrigger: using what base?
[21:11] <matreya6> sebsebseb, Couldn't install that properly, but it is not on the top of my list. Other things are much more important to me.
[21:11] <billybigrigger> sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[21:11] <billybigrigger> ???
[21:11] <PassePartouT> mrwes at first it was saying it couldn't get an ip and then it said it was getting d/c from the network
[21:11] <joseph14> i don't know ,
[21:11] <progre55> nightrid3r, cool, thanks! I'll go upgrade! )
[21:11] <mrwes> PassePartouT, I know -- I saw you posts :)
[21:11] <dtchen> billybigrigger: no, that's the system-wide daemon method. we don't use the system-wide daemon by default.
[21:11] <SoftCoder> Anyone who how to get hotway working with evolution in ubuntu 9?
[21:12] <sebsebseb> matreya6: by the way  Flash for video really does suck on sites,  Firefox 3.1  has a soloution :)    Firefox 3.1 will be out soonish and  it has HTML 5 suppourt, which means they have suppourt for   new  <video> and <audio> tags and it has built in suppourt for OGG :)   so no need for plugins then for video,  but of course Internet Explorer won't suppourt such good standards,  so  Flash for videos on sites will remain :(
[21:12] <Kai_wp> So if you installed the latest Jaunty Jackalope release candidate, should there be updates to make it the final version since it's out now?
[21:12] <PassePartouT> mrwes, i'll let you know how it goes, ty for the help i might wait a bit though cause apparently i downloaded 8.10 last night and so i'm getting the 9.x right now
[21:12] <dtchen> billybigrigger: what's the real issue? (you can restart it with: killall pulseaudio; start-pulseaudio-x11)
[21:12] <billybigrigger> dtchen, ok, well i just closed a freenx session and when i did i lost my audio, audicious wont play audio anymore, how can i reset the sound server?
[21:12] <mrwes> PassePartouT, I'll be here
[21:12] <joseph14> mr. kmwhite , yes i have
[21:12] <PassePartouT> mrwes cheers
[21:12] <mrwes> PassePartouT, remember the correct power up order..OK?
[21:12] <PassePartouT> mrwes ya :)
[21:12] <dtchen> billybigrigger: well, did you nesure that your volume isn't muted?
[21:12] <utferd> hi
[21:12] <mrwes> PassePartouT, cable modem, router , PC
[21:12] <dtchen> ensure*
[21:12] <SoftCoder> Anyone? - #ubuntu
[21:13] <vart___> Kai_wp
[21:13] <progre55> nightrid3r, hmm.. it's not in my package manager yet :)
[21:13] <SoftCoder> how to get hotway (hotmail) working with evolution in jaunty?
[21:13] <vart___> Kai_wp : just regular update of packages
[21:13] <utferd> is there a way to understand my flash disk bootable?
[21:13] <mrwes> Ok...I'm seeding -- doing my part to feed the sharks!
[21:13] <joseph14> kmwhite do you have a solution?
[21:13] <matreya6> sebsebseb, sounds really nice, but as long as it is not widely adopted, it's not really that useful. It *is* a good step forward, though.
[21:13] <billybigrigger> dtchen, yes i was in the middle of listening to music, i must have freenx configured to use sound as i heard the ubuntu startup sound when i started the freenx session, upon closing it, the mp3's i had playing in audacious suddenly stopped and now i have no audio
[21:13] <nightrid3r> progre55: it's in update manager
[21:13] <progre55> nightrid3r, do I need to download it in order to upgrade? or can I do it using the package manager?
[21:13] <sebsebseb> matreya6: well basically every popular browser will suppourt that, except IE :(
[21:13] <vart___> SofCoder : hotmail has a pop3 support
[21:14] <Lyth1> how do I go from the RC to 904
[21:14] <sebsebseb> matreya6: IE most lose market share big time,  same thing for Windows really,   Micrsooft really do hold computing back big time
[21:14] <Praetor_Khan> Is it better to do a fresh install or just let the update manager handle it.  Bear in mind my current Ibex install is only a few weeks old.
[21:14] <alinon> vart___: i believe you have to pay for pop3 support
[21:14] <qbrix> well this download act as a Live CD? -> http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/ubuntu-9.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent
[21:14] <progre55> nightrid3r, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, isnt it? :)
[21:14] <SoftCoder> how do i config evolution for hotmail then?
[21:14] <mrwes> progre55, the upgrade manager is really slow right now, you can download the alternate install iso and upgrade from that
[21:14] <matreya6> sebsebseb, Since IE has around 81% market share still, web developers are still more or less forced to produce dual code
[21:14] <progre55> mrwes, okay, thanks
[21:14] <Kai_wp> vart__: But the updates should make the release candidate into the final release?
[21:14] <vart___> alinon: not anymore
[21:15] <vart___> Kai_wp : yes
[21:15] <kmwhite> sorry joseph14 , you'll have to forgive me. I'm actually at work now trying to do multiple things :(
[21:15] <sebsebseb> matreya6: yeah, but at  in the next 2 weeks or so,  most Windows users will be asked if they want  to install IE8, and then hopefully at last after  9 years, IE6 can finally die
[21:15] <alinon> SoftCoder: use thunderbird with the webmail addon if all else fails
[21:15] <qbrix> Does both the Server and Desktop version act as a LiveCD ??
[21:15] <lepine1> has anyone every tried using IEs4linux? to have IE
[21:15] <kmwhite> joseph14: I missed the response. Did you have the xorg.conf file?
[21:15] <sebsebseb> matreya6: yeah, but atleast above
[21:15] <CorpRattX> wooo people
[21:15] <lepine1> i'm getting installation errors
[21:15] <CorpRattX> hello everyone
[21:15] <kelli> what is ubuntu 9.04 like?
[21:15] <mrwes> progre55, instructions are here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[21:15] <kmwhite> sebsebseb: Wahoo!
[21:15] <billybigrigger> dtchen, so how do i get my sound back, besides rebooting my pc? how can i restart the sound system
[21:15] <mrwes> kelli, 0.94 better than 8.10
[21:16] <joseph14> kmwhite just give me any thing to solve it please :(
[21:16] <billybigrigger> dtchen, killall pulseaudio, and start it again?
[21:16] <qbrix> Does both the Server and Desktop version act as a LiveCD ??
[21:16] <vart___> hotmail pop3 http://www.firetrust.com/en/blog/chris/hotmail-now-with-free-pop3-and-imap-access
[21:16] <sebsebseb> matreya6: and Ubuntu has most of  Desktop Linux's market share,  and  when it has enough users, well  it's a bit wine to a lot of good software :)
[21:16] <matreya6> sebsebseb, sounds lovely, but I heard that IE8 will only be available for Vista and up...
[21:16] <sebsebseb> kmwhite: what?
[21:16] <mrwes> qbrix, server is NOT a live CD
[21:16] <CorpRattX> anyone run the e107  content managment system on their server ?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> matreya6: I think IE8 runs on XP to
[21:16] <CorpRattX> or any CMS?
[21:16] <kelli> how much better
[21:16] <qbrix> ok thx
[21:16] <CorpRattX> yeah ie8 works on XP
[21:16] <kmwhite> joseph14: I wish I could. If you don't have an xorg.conf file, then X11 is trying to guess your information. I had a buddy who had one and just had to change the 'vesa' driver to 'intel' for it to work
[21:16] <PhotoJim> qbrix: most server installations are shell only, no gui.
[21:17] <kmwhite> sebsebseb: IE6 dying.
[21:17] <sebsebseb> matreya6: uh typed wrong thing,   when Ubuntu has enough market share,  think about it,  it's a big win  to a lot of good software,   Firefox,  Open Office,  etc etc
[21:17] <nightrid3r> CorpRattX: joomla
[21:17] <Lyth1> Will the update amanger update to 9.04
[21:17] <magcius> Is us.archive.ubuntu.com down?
[21:17] <magcius> It's timing out for me.
[21:17] <matreya6> sebsebseb, I like Ubuntu, but I'm going to try Kubuntu for my next upgrade if the programs bundled with ubuntu still hide so many options.
[21:17] <joseph14> kmwhite i told i have xorg.conf
[21:17] <guntbert> !ot | kelli
[21:17] <centyx> Lyth1: yesh
[21:17] <proq> magcius: it's overburdened due to rc
[21:17] <sebsebseb> matreya6: hide so many options?
[21:17] <Lyth1> Doesn't seem to be working
[21:17] <kmwhite> joseph14: I didn't see the scroll back. Sorry. what's the driver line for the video card say?
[21:18] <BobCFC> magcius, try ca lol
[21:18] <magcius> BobCFC, how do I change it?
[21:18] <IRWolfie-> do-release-upgrade is reporting its on the latest distro, lsb_release -a says im still on 8.10
[21:18] <magcius> BobCFC, and is there only one server on us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[21:18] <mrwes> magcius, torrent is the way to go my friend
[21:18] <Lyth1> Can I update from a downloaded live disk, or can Ionly do fresih installs that way
[21:18] <sebsebseb> kmwhite: indeed, but if it was Windows losing  market share big time, that would be even better,   that  would  also force Microsoft to   properly improve their software.   the amount of stuff they get away with, because they have most of the market
[21:18] <Zlogger> hi
[21:18] <joseph14> kmwhite  http://www.mibbit.com/pb/kuROOH
[21:18] <BobCFC> magcius, System->Admin->Software Sources
[21:18] <Carcophan> has anyone here too got problems with intel accelerated graphics performance on jaunty?
[21:18] <magcius> mrwes, ..I'm installing through apt-get.
[21:18] <CorpRattX> night what do you think of it ?
[21:18] <LordMetro> I upgraded Ubuntu an am now stcuk in initramfs with a message: ALER! /dev/disk/by-uuid/fad54659-128e-4cd5-87f9-bb42badac398 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! What do I do?
[21:18] <sebsebseb> matreya6: by the way KDE3 for 9.04 :)  yay
[21:18] <DrIDK> hello! I want to propose a package for ubuntu. Where I need to go ?
[21:18] <kmwhite> sebsebseb: I agree. It is pretty absurd.
[21:18] <mrwes> magcius, well it'll be slow :)
[21:19] <joseph14> kmwhite i think it's the first one
[21:19] <mrwes> magcius, you can snag the iso via torrent in mintues
[21:19] <kmwhite> sebsebseb: When I used to be a web developer, it was the bane of my existence.
[21:19] <nightrid3r> CorpRattX: i'ts a great system, easy to use and very expandable
[21:19] <matreya6> sebsebseb, Take for instance the comparison between KIIIB and Brasero. Even though the KIIIB version I use is already more than two years old, it gives me the options I need. Brasero is substandard for my burning tasks.
[21:19] <magcius> mrwes, as in, I already have Jaunty, I'm just installing a package.
[21:19] <eml> Hi! I just installed Jaunty through VMWare, and my sound driver doesn't appear to be working. Any tips?
[21:19] <nomasteryoda> thought this channel would be overrun today...
[21:19] <henryrhodesiii> got my official iso  9.04
[21:19] <IRWolfie-> it isnt overrun?
[21:19] <mrwes> magcius, ohh..duh
[21:19] <sebsebseb> kmwhite: yeah  I woudn't have minded becoming a pro web developer, but  well  all the stuff you got to do, so   a really good site, works well in IE to
[21:19] <CorpRattX> yeah it seems solid
[21:19] <iGama> DrIDK, launchpad, go there and open a bug/feature report
[21:19] <centyx> it's nomasteryoda
[21:19] <IRWolfie-> do-release-upgrade is reporting its on the latest distro, lsb_release -a says im still on 8.10,anyone any ideas?
[21:19] <CorpRattX> plus u just write your own modules
[21:20] <PhotoJim> matreya6: a lot of KDE apps work fine under Gnome.  you could try installing the app you prefer and see how it works.
[21:20] <progre55> guys, sorry for such a nooby question.. but I've downloaded the jaunty iso, and now, how to mount it and how to upgrade? :)
[21:20] <Lyth1> Can I use a live disk yo update ubuntu?
[21:20] <PhotoJim> progre55: put it in your CD drive.  the system should automount it and offer to upgrade.
[21:20] <sebsebseb> matreya6: Ubuntu is based on Gnome,  they don't have some of the new Gnome stuff even
[21:20] <CorpRattX> who makes the best CMS ?
[21:20] <centyx> nomasteryoda: and the main ubuntu servers aren't bogged down like normal either :P
[21:20] <mrwes> Lyth1, no... unless it's the alternate install cd
[21:20] <guntbert> !ot | sebsebseb "you too, my son???"
[21:20] <progre55> PhotoJim, I mean, not wasting a CD disc :)
[21:20] <nightrid3r> CorpRattX: i hope so, our entire government is run on joomla
[21:20] <PhotoJim> progre55: use a CD-RW.  that's the easiest way.
[21:20] <kmwhite> joseph14: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep [Dd]river
[21:20] <Lyth1> Ah, so how long should I wait until update manager is no longer busy?
[21:21] <yadu> can someone give me the command to upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04?
[21:21] <alinon> guntbert: geez....that was harsh haha
[21:21] <sebsebseb> Lyth1: the weekend?
[21:21] <mrwes> Lyth1, or grab the alternate iso from torrent
[21:21] <progre55> PhotoJim, thanks
[21:21] <eml> Anyone else experiencing troubles with your sound driver in Jaunty?
[21:21] <matreya6> PhotoJim, true...but on 8.10 most of the help files for KDE programs were broken and displayed other quirky behaviour I would not expect on Kubuntu.
[21:21] <centyx> at least they weren't earlier, maybe i spoke too soon
[21:21] <mrwes> Lyth1, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[21:21] <PhotoJim> progre55: if you don't have any there is a way to mount an iso image but it takes a little bit of work.  google should find it for you.
[21:21] <BePhantom> hello all, are there any issues with 9.04 and intel graphics? because desktop effects are kinda slow in my 9.04
[21:21] <CorpRattX> any pros and cons ?on joomla
[21:21] <guntbert> alinon: ? I certainly didn'
[21:21] <PassePartouT> CorpRattX it's often way more than you need
[21:21] <guntbert> t want to be harsh
[21:21] <magcius> BobCFC, wow, thanks, for anybody else having trouble having trouble installing apps, go to Software Sources, and select Choose Best Server.
[21:22] <CorpRattX> i mean the government using it is actually a strike against it...
[21:22] <CorpRattX> hahaha
[21:22] <tas> O:
[21:22] <SoftCoder> hurray!
[21:22] <PhotoJim> matreya6: yes, well, it's an option.  and you can migrate Ubuntu to Kubuntu easily enough.  I migrated my notebook from Kubuntu to normal Ubuntu a couple of years ago.  took a bit of downloading, worked fine.
[21:22] <mrwes> PhotoJim, work to mount an iso? heh?
[21:22] <matreya6> BePhantom, consult the Release notes first please, it has Intel problems written all over it
[21:22] <Killeroid> BePhantom: yeah, there are a couple of problems
[21:22] <CorpRattX> yeah i think so on the way more
[21:22] <alinon> aH oKaY LoL
[21:22] <SoftCoder> evolution works with hotmail without using hotway
[21:22] <PhotoJim> mrwes: yeah, you have to use that loopback trick.  I find it unintuitive.
[21:22] <BePhantom> oh, Killeroid i hope it'll get fixed
[21:22] <proq> magcius: I wonder how you would do that from CLI
[21:22] <PassePartouT> CorpRattX but this would be some questions for #joomla or you could try #silverstripe or #drupal (basically like joomla without steroids, both came from mambo)
[21:22] <mrwes> PhotoJim, or just use gisomount from the repos
[21:22] <haggisbasheruk> Intel problem needs fixed ASAP
[21:22] <CorpRattX> which was why i was wondering how come more people dont use them
[21:22] <tas> Hello
[21:22] <joseph14> kmwhite it doesn't give me anything
[21:22] <PhotoJim> mrwes: that's a new one to me.  I will check it out.
[21:23] <magcius> proq, I don't know, but it queries almost every mirror known to man and selects the one with the least ping time.
[21:23] <mrwes> !gisomount
[21:23] <mrwes> blah
[21:23] <Killeroid> BePhantom:  acouple of people have found fixes. search the forums
[21:23] <CorpRattX> well he can give me an overview without being off topic
[21:23] <matreya6> haggisbasheruk, I agree, even though it does not really impact my nVidia-based GPU's
[21:23] <tas> I'd like to know how to uninstall KDE and all its apps, could anyone help?
[21:23] <magcius> proq, 291 of them to be exact.
[21:23] <BobCFC> magcius, cool
[21:23] <sebsebseb> !puregnome |  tas
[21:23] <alinon> i think intel integrated cards should be banned from laptops, let ati/nvidia handle that
[21:23] <SoftCoder> Anyone wanting to use their hotmail account in jaunty change your hotmail account to point to the servers shown here: http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/01/confirmed-pop3-rolling-out-on-windows-live-hotmail.ars
[21:23] <sebsebseb> tas: why you want to get rid of KDE by the way?
[21:23] <austin_> Hey where should i go to manage/add widgets
[21:23] <SoftCoder> no longer require hotway
[21:23] <mrwes> tas: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[21:23] <tas> Cause I'm using Gnome+AWN, and KDE is only sitting there O:
[21:23] <tas> Thank you
[21:24] <BePhantom> Killeroid, thanks
[21:24] <sebsebseb> austin_: yes you can get some add ons for Gnome/Ubuntu,  but it's not done like Vista
[21:24] <joseph14>  kmwhite http://www.mibbit.com/pb/Etlz3X
[21:24] <Sarthor_> Hi, i have STC Wireless modem (huawei E960 HSDPA Wireless GATEWAY), Working good, but i have Dell 1525 Inspiron Laptop, there is one port for Mobile sim/ship under laptop battry, Can i use that sim in my mobile, is that for 3G or mobile internet?? if Yes. How?
[21:24] <kalexander> if i "cancel" my upgrade to 9.04 that's in progress.. can i resume it at a later time?
[21:24] <austin_> k thanks
[21:24] <sebsebseb> kalexander: no
[21:24] <matreya6> alinon, I don't agree on that. Intel GPU's are generally very efficient when it comes to power use. I wouldn't want to have an nVidia/ ATI card in my servers. Too much power consumption.
[21:24] <manpoole> silly question installing google earth a terminal window has the user afreement and ok at the bottom how do i accept the user agreement enter does not work esc donest what do i type?
[21:24] <kmwhite> joseph14: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.old
[21:24] <kmwhite> joseph14: restartx
[21:24] <mrwes> kalexander, dont do that!
[21:24] <progre55> damn, aparently I dont have a blank CD.. please somebody tell me how to mount the jaunty image and upgrade it? :)
[21:24] <sebsebseb> austin_: in fact I have a link for you
[21:24] <kalexander> haha ok.. thanks guys
[21:25] <tas> Progre, do you have 8.10?
[21:25] <mrwes> progre55, is it the alternate install cd?
[21:25] <sebsebseb> austin_: and by the way if you want  your Ubuntu log in screen to look better,  I hightly recommend the blubuntu gdm screen
[21:25] <tas> As in intrepid?
[21:25] <mrwes> progre55, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading  -- look towards the bottom of the page
[21:25] <matreya6> progre55, don't you have an USB key lying around? You could try installing from that
[21:25] <progre55> mrwes, dont know, just downloaded it :)
[21:25] <alinon> matreya6: actually nvidia has been working on power consumption for some time now along with developing a cpu/gpu combo chip to cut down on power even more
[21:25] <xerxes> How do i do partition encryption with jaunty?
[21:25] <progre55> mrwes, thanks, I'll have a look
[21:25] <mrwes> progre55, well does the file name say alternate?
[21:25] <tas> If you have 8.10/Intrepid, you only need to use the update manager
[21:25] <tas> It'll update straight to Jaunty for you
[21:26] <progre55> mrwes, ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso  that's the name of the file
[21:26] <matreya6> alinon, A bit of competition is healthy for the market. Usually Intel does deliver good quality chips.
[21:26] <joseph14> http://www.mibbit.com/pb/lcNRQp   kmwhite
[21:26] <mrwes> progre55, you can not upgrade from that, you need the alternate install iso
[21:26] <Lyth1> Is there a way to convert a Ubuntu install to Ubuntu Studio?
[21:26] <joseph14> nothing
[21:26] <misho> how to upgrade jaunty rc to full version
[21:26] <fg3> trying to install u904 onto vmware ws6.5.2 -- error during install trying to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/....
[21:26] <proq> tas: how stable would you say that is, on a scale of 1 to 10?  10 being works every single time
[21:26] <mrwes> misho, just run the update manager
[21:26] <tlyng> Can anyone here help me with an xorg/intel gma issue? The performance since I've upgraded dropped dramatically. Earlier compiz atleast worked with good performance, after the update it's terrible slow. When trying to speed up things by enabling UXA everything freeze. Is it possible to have the same graphics performance as 8.10 without enabling UXA? (I'm on a macbook with i945 chipset).
[21:26] <mrwes> misho, you probably have it already anyhow
[21:27] <kmwhite> joseph14: I was not clear, sorry. restartx is not a command, it was a directive. Log out and back in to restart X11
[21:27] <progre55> mrwes, oh I see.. I'll try to look for the alternate iso then )
[21:27] <alinon> i guess it doesn't help when i seen 5+ requests for intel chip help in the last 20 minutes haha
[21:27] <misho> mrwes: j did but it isnt there
[21:27] <fg3> then says no resume image, doing a normal boot -- then takes me to a console prompt   (using desktop version)
[21:27] <progre55> mrwes, thanks
[21:27] <tommi69> to update ubuntu 9.04 beta to ubuntu 9.04 i just need to give 'apt-get dist-upgrade' and let it run right?
[21:27] <matreya6> Ah, my distupgrade is almost ready to install...Last packages and counting down to reboot into a lovely new Ubuntu... :-)
[21:27] <joseph14> kmwhite but wait
[21:27] <mrwes> progre55, sure... and it'll be tons faster than waiting on the servers if you get it via torrent
[21:28] <joseph14> when i type "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.old"
[21:28] <joseph14> then coming this words
[21:28] <joseph14> mv: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[21:28] <joseph14> but i swear there is xorg.conf
[21:28] <[t0rc]> is there a command to only download the files for 9.04 and then start the install later?
[21:29] <progre55> mrwes, I got the alternate iso now :) thanks man
[21:29] <mrwes> joseph14, use cp not mv
[21:29] <IRWolfie-> get the alternative iso maybe [t0rc]?
[21:29] <[4-tea-2]> [t0rc]: aptitude has a --download-only option, I think. Check the man page.
[21:29] <mrwes> progre55, sure -- you'll do it that way from now on :)
[21:29] <IRWolfie-> and then upgrade from it
[21:29] <IRWolfie-> later
[21:29] <matreya6> progre55, Wow, do you have a really fast connection or waht? ;
[21:29] <TheFunkbomb> Hey, I upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04 RC and then got the latest updates today.  In update manager, it shows brasero cd/dvd burning but it's grayed out.
[21:29] <TheFunkbomb> Anyhelp?
[21:29] <joseph14> cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[21:30] <joseph14> mrwes
[21:30] <progre55> matreya6, yeah, kinda fast, downloaded it in 90 seconds :) 100Mbit
[21:30] <chelz> [t0rc]: if you grab the alternate cd off of a torrent or something, you can mount it or burn it then use it and it'll ask if you want to upgrade
[21:30] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb: YES
[21:30] <CaneToad> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/ReleaseAnnouncement is non-responsive .... but why would the upgrader be using that anyway, because my sources.list points to a mirror?
[21:30] <joseph14> mrwes cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[21:30] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb: didn't want caps, anyway yeah
[21:30] <alinon> grrr my upgrade download is trying to stall out for the 3rd time
[21:30] <mrwes> matreya6, you can download the torrent iso's usually within a few mintues
[21:30] <kmwhite> joseph14: , mrwes : he moved the file to /etc/X11/xorg.old
[21:30] <TheFunkbomb> sebsebseb, cool.
[21:30] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb: I guess you told it not to install basero  and so it' still there, but greyed out
[21:30] <whattey> is the alternate installation similar to the server installation?
[21:30] <mrwes> kmwhite, ohh
[21:30] <mrwes> heh
[21:30] <BUGabundo> humm so here we are! those from +1 please wave back, so I can say HI
[21:30] <acfrazier> I take it this channel is now QQ about the servers are straining due to failed downloads
[21:30] <[t0rc]> chelz, ahh, gracias
[21:30] <TheFunkbomb> sebsebseb, I did not but my CD/DVD burner is on the fritz
[21:30] <matreya6> * drools on high speed of progre55 (on 1.5 Mbit down here, sniff...)
[21:31] <mrwes> BUGabundo, you gnome-do physco!
[21:31] <alinon> acfrazier: not as bad as one would think
[21:31] <kelli> ubuntu 9.04 worth the up date
[21:31] <ubuntu__> ±Ф¬¬¬
[21:31] <mrwes> BUGabundo, you in the shark tank aye?
[21:31] <TheFunkbomb> oooh I also have another burning software installed.  would that do it?
[21:31] <alinon> ææwhat?!ææ
[21:31] <acfrazier> Well I thought I could get around that by downloading the alternate CD
[21:31] <acfrazier> guess not
[21:31] <sebsebseb> TheFunkbomb:   oh your going to clean install? or?
[21:31] <acfrazier> turns out I have to download another 150 MB
[21:31] <joseph14> kmwhite is that ok then >
[21:31] <joseph14> ??
[21:31] <chelz> [t0rc]: it only includes a section of the stuff you have installed probably though. so i'd wait a few days for the upgrade servers to calm down then try to do your upgrade
[21:31] <mrwes> BUGabundo, did you get any updates today?
[21:31] <matreya6> TheFunkbomb, well XBurn or K3B work fine for me, so that shouldn't be a problem
[21:31] <greencookie> Is there a way for me to save my workspace to make gnome restore windows on log in?
[21:31] <progre55> matreya6, hehe :) where do you come from? )
[21:31] <Nalf> Are there any issues with the repos right now?
[21:32] <nightrid3r> whattey: yes
[21:32] <Nalf> I can't get any updates..
[21:32] <kmwhite> joseph14: yeah. it's just saying the file you are trying to copy is not there; replace it with the xorg.old path
[21:32] <TheFunkbomb> sebsebseb, no, this was an upgrade from 8.10 to 9.04 RC and then 9.04 released
[21:32] <matreya6> progre55, the Netherlands
[21:32] <Nalf> apt-get install wont work either.
[21:32] <tommi69> Nalf: i can (italian mirror)
[21:32] <BUGabundo> mrwes: still checking! servers are slow
[21:32] <sebsebseb> Nalf: yep
[21:32] <Atom-AAO> Grrh Intel Graphics needs fixed as soon as possible
[21:32] <LjL> Nalf: slowness due to being release day?
[21:32] <kmwhite> wailt.
[21:32] <progre55> matreya6, hmm.. I c
[21:32] <sebsebseb> Nalf: I guess the load is to much for the repos, so problems
[21:32] <alinon> make that 6 intel problems in the last 20min
[21:32] <progre55> matreya6, okay, I'm gone to upgrade now )
[21:32] <mrwes> matreya6, this burns prefect iso's too; alias burndvd='growisofs -dvd-compat -overburn -Z /dev/dvd=dvd.iso'
[21:32] <DaveWM> anybody know how i can switch between window managers on the fly with the desktop up and running ?
[21:32] <matreya6> progre55, have fun :-)
[21:32] <kmwhite> joseph14: I don't think you have an xorg.conf from your paste
[21:32] <joseph14> so do i have to restart the ubuntu ?
[21:32] <TheFunkbomb> People really need to stop naming their programs as Gnome****
[21:32] <HBX> how do i upgrade from the alternate cd on a netbook
[21:32] <xerxes> What is the difference between gnome and XFCE im unsure between ubuntu and xubuntu...
[21:32] <sebsebseb> DaveWM: don't think you can easilly, or at all
[21:32] <tommi69> DaveWM: i don't think it's possible
[21:33] <DaveWM> hrm
[21:33] <mrwes> !XFCE
[21:33] <tommi69> DaveWM: you should at least need to restart X
[21:33] <mrwes> BUGabundo, I didn't have any
[21:33] <wrice_> In re: Jaunty + Intel chipsets - read the release notes : )
[21:33] <resno> just got the update... its looking pretty nice...
[21:33] <BUGabundo> mrwes: at least FF you should have
[21:33] <vart> HBX: create a USB using this iso
[21:33] <sebsebseb> DaveWM: you could run your other window manager in a vm though, if your computer can handle it,  I know maybe not the best thing for what you want to do, but still a good suggestion I think
[21:33] <HBX> ah ok
[21:33] <LadyBug> xerxes: From practical standpoint Gnome is easier for the beginner. XFCE requires a lot of tweaking.
[21:33] <sebsebseb> DaveWM: vm as in virtual machine to be clear
[21:33] <DaveWM> i don't think that would be ideal
[21:33] <joseph14> kmwhite do i have to log out ?? ??  ?
[21:33] <mrwes> BUGabundo, hrmm... I ran the update manager and nuttin'
[21:33] <Atom-AAO> wrice_> In re: Jaunty + Intel chipsets - read the release notes : )  <<< not a good excuse
[21:33] <oomagoolies> screen -list
[21:33] <DaveWM> yea, i've done alot of playing with vm's
[21:34] <resno> nice job guys!
[21:34] <xerxes> thanx LadyBug
[21:34] <Oprtz> i am downloading 9.04 now, its 70% done
[21:34] <DaveWM> i'm looking to switch between metacity and maximus
[21:34] <manpoole> using ati radeon default drivers in jaunty gives me flckering in google earth even without compiz anyone no a remedy?
[21:34] <henryrhodesiii> you can manage upgrades on a net book by using the usb startup disk creator  and isos  of the systems
[21:34] <ubuntu__> nice sheet
[21:34] <ubuntu__> opps
[21:34] <ubuntu__> nice job
[21:34] <ubuntu__> i mean
[21:34] <eml> I need some help with my sound card drivers, I can't get any sound although it recognizes my sound card (SoundBlaster Audigy 4).
[21:34] <kmwhite> joseph14: no idea, sorry.
[21:34] <mrwes> BUGabundo, nope...nutitn' just ran it again
[21:34] <sebsebseb> DaveWM: yeah I am going virtual machine crazy, when I  put on 9.04  final on the weekend or next week.   I am currently running a upgraded 8.10 to  alpha6, to beta, to rc, install which has some issues as a result
[21:34] <matreya6> TheFunkbomb, I'm all for a universal format that runs on any Window Manager, but it's the difference between design guidelines between for instance Gnome and KDE that throw a spanner into the works...
[21:35] <dtchen> eml: run the following command: ubuntu-bug alsa-base
[21:35] <joshjtl_> hi,  how do i find out what version of xserver-xorg-video-intel i have installed?
[21:35] <BobCFC> night peeps
[21:35] <LadyBug> DaveWM: I just did that. Getting rid of maximus is not easy.
[21:35] <dtchen> eml: use that command to file a bug, then tell me the bug #
[21:35] <BUGabundo> mrwes: do you have Security pocket enabled?
[21:35] <DaveWM> kewl
[21:35] <BUGabundo> mrwes: apt-cache policy firefox
[21:35] <gangsterlicious> stop downloading ISOs so i can update!
[21:35] <BUGabundo> mrwes: $ apt-cache policy firefox | pastebinit
[21:35] <gangsterlicious> can't even install iscsi
[21:35] <DaveWM> yeah,  seems like if you could switch between maximus and metacity quickly,  it'd be ideal for a mobile device
[21:35] <BUGabundo> gangsterlicious: ehehehh
[21:35] <matreya6> *Yay, only one minute to go...
[21:35] <alinon> welp, i'm upgrading now, i should go
[21:35] <alinon> tc all