[15:38] <Paddy_NI> randomnik: it is... just install the bootloader in the correct place
[15:38] <Paddy_NI> :)
[15:40] <randomnik> Paddy_NI, /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `sda'.
[15:40] <sacarlson> randomnik: my one liner method if booted from livecd: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt; sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda # change sda1 and sda to your choice
[15:40] <randomnik> after sudo grub-install sda
[15:40] <redboat> test
[15:41] <Paddy_NI> randomnik: what sacarlson says should sort you out with little pain
[15:41] <randomnik> sacarlson, i did that procedure like 20 times so far, but, tbh, i didnt learn ubuntu for some time now, and i actually found a way to boot into real ubuntu
[15:41] <oCean> redboat: we see you
[15:41] <randomnik> faster then live cd
[15:42] <sacarlson> randomnik: ya that's it from within ubuntu already your grub-install sda will work also
[15:42] <redboat> testing ok thanks
[15:42] <landingonwater> [segfault]: no luck with that. still wants that gnome-sharp: checking for GNOME_SHARP_20... configure: error: Package requirements (gnome-sharp-2.0) were not met
[15:42] <randomnik> sacarlson, , /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `sda'.
[15:42] <[segfault]> landingonwater: did you try installing gfk-sharp2-cil?
[15:43] <sacarlson> randomnik: how would that be?  how did you boot then?
[15:43] <redboat> what is the best irc linux?
[15:43] <[segfault]> redboat: there are many, and many opinions.  x-chat is popular. though.
[15:43] <Polah> Is there a way to read Windows .DMP files in Ubuntu?
[15:43] <oCean> redboat: that depends on what your needs/wishes are
[15:43] <oCean> !best | redboat
[15:43] <landingonwater> [segfault]: only gtk-sharp2. didnt see any gtk-sharp2-cil. im on ubuntu 10.10
[15:43] <redboat> ok ok i am using x-chat
[15:43] <randomnik> sacarlson, with supergrub2 cd. small live cd for loading different OS installed when you have problem with grub
[15:44] <hihihi100> i cannot access to any of my external hard drives, it ois odd, because gparted recognizes both, so does sudo fdisk -l
[15:44] <randomnik> sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda seems to work, then i did update-grub
[15:44] <hihihi100> help please
[15:44] <randomnik> now gonna try reboot, wish me luck
[15:44] <dougl> holy cow sure takes along time to install on usb stick... does that mean system is gonna perform poorly?
[15:44] <[segfault]> landingonwater: sorry, I was looking at the wrong package.  gtk-sharp2-gapi?
[15:44] <sacarlson> randomnik: ok I've used that before but don't recall the method to fix that way
[15:44] <Paddy_NI> randomnik: you need to install grub2 to sda before you run update
[15:44] <redboat> is it worth upgrading a wolfdale e8500 to an AMD thurban
[15:45] <landingonwater> [segfault]: gtk-sharp2-gapi is installed. no luck.
[15:45] <oCean> redboat: this is only ubuntu support.
[15:45] <redboat> ok ok thanks
[15:45] <HelloWorld123> Hi guys.  I'm a new linux user.
[15:45] <HelloWorld123> I've been using the stuff from the Evil Empire for my job, but now that they've booted me I'm messing around with linux.
[15:45] <sacarlson> Paddy_NI: I think he did
[15:45] <Paddy_NI> hmm
[15:46] <[segfault]> landingonwater: and gnome-sharp2 is already installed also?  just checking all the ones I've found
[15:46] <oCean> HelloWorld123: do you have a support question? Chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:46] <redboat> how do you make this thing pull up leo laporte?
[15:46] <HelloWorld123> Why yes, I do.  Glad you asked.  I've got kinda two right now:
[15:47] <Paddy_NI> !ask | HelloWorld123
[15:47] <HelloWorld123> First is I'm using TightVNC to share the keyboard between a windows computer and a linux computer.  The problem is that on linux
[15:47] <HelloWorld123> the TightVNC doesn't initialize until after I login ... with the keyboard ... so I can't type my password to login.
[15:48] <redboat> I mean is it capable of seeing Leo Laportes IRC or do you have to have an apple computer hahaha
[15:48] <bazhang> !ot | redboat
[15:48] <redboat> I am talking about ubuntu
[15:48] <HelloWorld123> Is there a way to set up TightVNC as a service (or something like that) so that it is active during login?
[15:49] <redboat> can I get IRC for leo laorte?
[15:49] <home> hih
[15:49] <redboat> if not here please can you redirect me?
[15:49] <bazhang> redboat, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:49] <home> so me yo dick
[15:50] <raido> HelloWorld123: Are both computers in front of you?
[15:50] <HelloWorld123> yes
[15:50] <sacarlson> HelloWorld123: I think x11vnc might be what you want
[15:50] <raido> HelloWorld123: look at Synergy, it will be  abetter option than VNC
[15:50] <sacarlson> HelloWorld123: oh then raido is better
[15:51] <sacarlson> HelloWorld123: quicksynergy with the gui
[15:51] <HelloWorld123> I'll grab Quick Syngergy from the Synaptic Package Manager then.  Thanks
[15:51] <sacarlson> HelloWorld123: much faster won't need the graphic trafic
[15:51] <[segfault]> landingonwater: any luck with gnome-sharp2?
[15:52] <HelloWorld123> I really just need the keyboard.  There's space for two computers, two monitors and two mice, but not two keyboards.
[15:52] <HelloWorld123> Thanks.
[15:52] <landingonwater> [segfault]: gnome-sharp give no results. gnome-sharp2 did. however.. now i cant find evolution-sharp
[15:52] <raido> HelloWorld123: Then Synergy is exactly what you want
[15:52] <sacarlson> HelloWorld123: yes I use synergy and even works between windows too
[15:52] <[segfault]> landingonwater: dependencies are so much fun...
[15:53] <Polah> Is there a way to read Windows .DMP files in Ubuntu?
[15:53] <landingonwater> [segfault]: Its great fun. I can think of anything else to do on a saturday :D
[15:53] <HelloWorld123> Is installing Apache2, MySql, PHP, Perl & Python on top of Ubuntu, is that the same as LAMPP?  Or is configuration more integrated if I remove them and install  XAMPP for Linux?
[15:53] <sacarlson> Polah: I'm sure you can read them but what is in a dmp file?
[15:54] <Polah> Sacarlson, it's a dump file from a process, so I'd assume it's a log of that processes' actions
[15:54] <sacarlson> HelloWorld123: add phpmyadmin and it will be about the same,  not sure you need perl or python
[15:55] <HelloWorld123> K.  Thanks again.
[15:55] <sacarlson> Polah: is it in text format that readable or ?
[15:56] <HelloWorld123> Grabbing phpmyadmin and Quick-Synergy.
[15:56] <ai9371> the icons at the top of the page that had a speaker
[15:56] <HelloWorld123> hey, when I put in Quick-Synergy, should I uninstall  or disable or reconfigure TightVNC?
[15:56] <ai9371> and the power button disapeared and I cant find them anywhere
[15:56] <Polah> I can't open it in gedit at all, I fear it may require a specialised Windows program
[15:57] <sacarlson> HelloWorld123: vnc is unrelated just don't run it or leave it
[15:57] <landingonwater> [segfault]: dammit: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-mono/2010-March/021996.html
[15:58] <mynameistux> how do I run a java application from a terminal?
[15:58] <landingonwater> [segfault]: so there is some sort of fight going on ? and thats why i run into trouble installing Tasque on Ubuntu ?
[15:58] <[segfault]> landingonwater: yes, it was deleted from maverick. You coule probably still find it and install it, though.
[15:58] <Polah> mynameistux: java <name>.jar
[15:59] <[segfault]> landingonwater: I don't see why you couldn't just download the tarball from the lucid package archive and install it manually
[15:59] <lite__> mynameistux, java -jar smth.jar
[15:59] <landingonwater> [segfault]: aah.. clever :) will try.
[16:00] <mynameistux> Polah, I get this http://pastebin.com/GqZbhqLH
[16:01] <Polah> What is it, mynameistux?
[16:01] <lite__> i used script http://pastebin.com/5nrzv1GK (internal eth0, external eth1, dsl ppp0) to give internet to a notebook through wi-fi hotspot, but after update to natty there's no effect :-\ ifconfig show me only very big count of rx dropped packets =(
[16:01] <mynameistux> it's a game
[16:01] <mynameistux> a native linux game
[16:01] <erUSUL> !ics | lite__
[16:01] <mynameistux> but I can install that from deb, better example would be with minecraft
[16:01] <[segfault]> lite__: you can ask in #ubuntu+1 for natty support
[16:01] <bazhang> lite__, #ubuntu+1 for natty
[16:01] <lite__> mynameistux, try java -jar RevengeOfTheTitans.jar
[16:02] <lite__> ubottu, [segfault], bazhang, thx
[16:02] <Polah> oh yes, that may work better
[16:02] <mynameistux> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from
[16:02] <mynameistux> RevengeOfTheTitans.jar
[16:02] <mynameistux> it was 2 lines, didn't seem worth pastebinning
[16:02] <blocks> hi I am installing Ubuntu server when creating /home partition it ask for a 5% reserved space for super-user. Should I use it?
[16:02] <landingonwater> [segfault]: no luck locating the package on packages.ubuntu.com
[16:03] <raido> blocks: yes
[16:03] <ChrisBuchholz> Can somebody tell why sometimes if I maximize a window in unity, it will maximize all the way (horizontally) and other times, it maximizes but keeps place for the Dock on the left?
[16:03] <blocks> raido: in Ubuntu desktop I deleted that space for /home
[16:03] <mynameistux> but the command you gave me works for minecraft WHICH MAKES ME VERY HAPPY :D :D :D
[16:03] <blocks> Why do I need space for root user in /home?
[16:04] <blocks> 5% is a lot of space
[16:04] <Polah> mynameistux, http://pastebin.com/DMvWaYQb, put that in a file, give it executable privileges and run it
[16:04] <lite__> maybe not for superuser, but for superblocks?
[16:04] <raido> You want some extra space incase your users fill the partition completely, you will have space for maintinence and repair
[16:04] <erUSUL> blocks: you can disable it if you want. see « man tune2fs »
[16:04] <blocks> I dont know. if some expert can explainit  to me
[16:05] <exutux> It's for journaling
[16:05] <[segfault]> landingonwater: try getting it from debian - http://packages.debian.org/source/lenny/evolution-sharp
[16:05] <oCean> !info tasque | landingonwater
[16:05] <blocks> erUSUL: yeah I know it. i used in ubuntu desktop /home
[16:05] <exutux> isn't a good idea disable it
[16:05] <oCean> landingonwater: I thought you were in search of 'tasque' ?
[16:05] <blocks> exutux: not for /home
[16:05] <blocks> i guess
[16:05] <dimon> всем привет!
[16:05] <erUSUL> !ru
[16:06] <exutux> blocks: why not? journaling still used for your home too
[16:06] <HelloWorld123> Synergy looks great, but it doesn't seem like it will work with the other computer using Windows 7
[16:06] <[segfault]> oCean: landingonwater is, but trying to build from source and needing dependencies satisfied. :(
[16:06] <oCean> landingonwater: why build from source? It is in the repositories (universe)
[16:06] <blocks> exutux: I do not use it for /home and notice no difference
[16:06] <exutux> expecially if you have a separated partitions
[16:06] <Colliemama86> huhu
[16:07] <exutux> blocks: well beacuse you has had lukied untill noe
[16:07] <exutux> now
[16:07] <Psydoll> anyone here used a wifi decoder in ubuntu?
[16:07] <landingonwater> oCean: was on the tasque website, and It says there is no stable version, and that it should be compiled. thats why. didnt know it is available from Ubuntu ?
[16:07] <raido> HelloWorld123: http://synergy-foss.org/download
[16:07] <blocks> exutux: lol?
[16:07] <mynameistux> Polah, I made it executable with chmod -x
[16:07] <mynameistux> but how do I run a script?
[16:07] <exutux> blocks: :)
[16:08] <blocks> lol exutux that is not english
[16:08] <blocks> :
[16:08] <blocks> )
[16:08] <ai9371> cheese sucks
[16:08] <[segfault]> landingonwater: lol, all this time, i thought you had good reason for compiling it, too. :)
[16:08] <oCean> landingonwater: couple of lines back, ubottu showed the available version in universe repo
[16:08] <exutux> because you has had lukyied untill now
[16:08] <EClaesson> Can i somehow create a single file representing a harddrive? Like genisoimage does for CDROM?
[16:08] <Polah> Just try to open the file and click run mynameistux
[16:08] <landingonwater> oCean: http://live.gnome.org/Tasque/Download
[16:08] <blocks> exutux: in which cases I need the 5%?
[16:08] <mynameistux> all I get is my text editors
[16:08] <mynameistux> no run option
[16:09] <mynameistux> how do I do it from a terminal
[16:09] <exutux> blocks: FS used it for journaling
[16:09] <mynameistux> I thought it was ./launch.sh
[16:09] <oCean> landingonwater: support does not stretch 3rd party installations. It is in the repo's, use that
[16:09] <blocks> exutux: that is that?
[16:09] <blocks> exutux: *what is that?
[16:09] <landingonwater> oCean: i just found out. but when looking at the website, there is no clue, and thats why i tried to compile :(
[16:09] <oCean> landingonwater: always have a look in the repositories first :)
[16:09] <Polah> Mynameisstux: Oh, from terminal, you should be able to just do <name>.sh if you're in the right directory. The script has to be in the same directory as the .jar, that way I did it
[16:09] <landingonwater> oCean: dammit :D im so sorry
[16:09] <landingonwater> [segfault]: no luck locating the package on packages.ubuntu.com
[16:10] <Obito> Hola!
[16:10] <[segfault]> landingonwater: just sudo apt-get install tasque :)
[16:10] <exutux> blocks: you don't know that filesystem ext3, ext4 are journal?
[16:10] <mynameistux> launch.sh: command not found
[16:10] <blocks> hello Obito
[16:10] <blocks> exutux: I know it
[16:10] <blocks> yeah
[16:10] <landingonwater> [segfault]: ups-. sorry man. I cam to their website from RTM, so I figured compiling was the only way :(
[16:11] <mynameistux> making it executable is just chmod -x launch.sh
[16:11] <mynameistux> right?
[16:11] <blocks> I found this exutux http://serverfault.com/questions/162222/always-reserve-blocks-for-super-user-when-formatting-a-file-system-in-linux-even
[16:11] <exutux> blocks: so that 5% is used for store it, and in case of some problem...FS can restore it
[16:11] <MagicJ> I have a running apache and set up the default ssl and it works too.  I created a self signed cert and then set the .crt and .key files into the defaults-ssl file and restarted apache . for some reason the cert that the system is reporting is called ubuntu - not mine - where is it getting this from
[16:11] <Polah> mynameistux, I think so, yes
[16:11] <raido> mynameistux: "+" not -
[16:11] <blocks> exutux: "it's like" windowz' system restore
[16:11] <landingonwater> [segfault]: I still think It should be compiled. way too easy and painless to install It from Ubuntu :D sorry sorry sorry
[16:12] <[segfault]> landingonwater: true, and we don't learn anything doing it that way, do we? :)
[16:12] <mynameistux> uhm, I'm not sure why it's not working
[16:12] <Polah> raido: mynameistux: That's right, -x would remove executable privileges,
[16:12] <raido> mynameistux: "+" not -
[16:12] <mynameistux> I did it with +
[16:12] <exutux> blocks: NTFS are journal FS too
[16:13] <Polah> mynameistux, do you have .sh appended to the file name?
[16:13] <exutux> is*
[16:13] <mynameistux> yeah
[16:13]  * landingonwater is busy digging his hole ...
[16:13] <blocks> exutux: k :)
[16:13] <mynameistux> it lets me run it when I click on it now
[16:13] <mynameistux> but nothing appears to be happening
[16:13] <raido> mynameistux: thats command just changes the bit, now do $./launch.sh
[16:14] <mynameistux> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from
[16:14] <mynameistux> RevengeOfTheTitans.jar
[16:14] <mynameistux> idk, it might be a problem with the jar
[16:14] <allividdi> heyy can anybody help mee
[16:14] <allividdi> ??????
[16:14] <raido> mynameistux: could be
[16:14] <mynameistux> but I have a .deb file that I can install it from, so it's not a big deal anymore :P
[16:14] <lite__> mynameistux, maybe try to remove METAINF dir from jar file?
[16:14] <mynameistux> I reckon I can just use the .deb to install it
[16:14] <oCean> allividdi: first state your problem, that might help
[16:14] <mynameistux> which is fine
[16:15] <allividdi> what is the best free virus protection for ubuntu
[16:15] <oCean> !virus | allividdi
[16:15] <benhuan> we need't it
[16:16] <allividdi> yes i know you dont need it but i thing it is i virus in my pc
[16:16] <bruse> how do services like redis-server get started on boot?
[16:16] <bruse> i'd like to disable that and only start it when i want it
[16:17] <raido> allividdi: ClamAV
[16:17] <lite__> allan8904, clamav?
[16:17] <allividdi> okei thanks
[16:18] <Guest6639> hi, trying to install lubuntu kinda stuck on the Who are you? page
[16:18] <Guest6639> it won't let me click forward
[16:18] <blocks> Guest6639: memory problem?
[16:18] <blocks> RAM
[16:18] <oCean> !lubuntu | Guest6639
[16:19] <cosmo> when installing linux sound drivers from the company's  website I messed something up and now I have no sound, it shows no sound device or driver but synaptic says I have the alsa drivers installed can anyone help?
[16:19] <bazhang> Guest6639, use all lower case
[16:20] <blocks> cosmo: remove all drivers related with sound?
[16:21] <cosmo> if I try to remove the alsa-base drivers it trys to remove the GDM as well
[16:21] <blocks> cosmo: it doesnt.
[16:21] <blocks> cosmo: it won't remove GDM..
[16:22] <blocks> cosmo: sometimes when removing certain apps it says that will remove ubuntu-desktop but it doesnt
[16:22] <dm54> ubun
[16:22] <blocks> dm54: hi
[16:23] <cosmo> what genius thought it would be a good idea to show that?
[16:23] <coz_>  hey all
[16:24] <blocks> cosmo: because it's not really a package
[16:24] <blocks> ei coz_
[16:24] <coz_> bl hey guy
[16:24] <coz_> blocks,  hey guy
[16:24] <blocks> tab fail :p
[16:24] <coz_> blocks,   not unusual for me :)
[16:26] <morgenland> hey
[16:26] <Psydoll> hello, how can i check my network card chipset in ubuntu?
[16:27] <morgenland> yes
[16:27] <alexbuntu> hi all
[16:27] <morgenland> wie gohtz euch
[16:27] <cosmo> do I need to reboot before reinstalling the alsa drivers?
[16:27] <oCean> !at | morgenland
[16:27] <alexbuntu> im running ubuntu 10.10 as live-system on a pretty new sony vaio
[16:28] <sudipta> hey ...i want to install kubuntu-desktop in my ubuntu10.10....how to do taht?
[16:28] <Ampelbein> Psydoll: you can use 'lspci' to find out what chipset you have
[16:28] <benhuan> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:29] <Psydoll> ampel im on a laptop that has built in wifi?
[16:29] <hihihi100> i cannot access to any of my external hard drives, it ois odd, because gparted recognizes both, so does sudo fdisk -l
[16:29] <sudipta> hey ...i want to install kubuntu-desktop in my ubuntu10.10....how to do that???
[16:29] <Psydoll> wait i think i found it! :)
[16:30] <Psydoll> ampel, the ones listent are for ethernet controller, im trying to find out for wifi, perhaps the wifi is on the same network card as the ethernet?
[16:30] <bruse> how do i prevent services like redis-server to start on boot?
[16:30] <Ampelbein> Psydoll: propably, yes. Can you pastebin the result of 'lspci -vvnn'?
[16:31] <Ampelbein> !pastebin | psydoll
[16:31] <Psydoll> Ameplbein, there is one for ethernet and ive found one for wirenless network
[16:31] <Psydoll> one sec plz
[16:31] <surbs> I want to install ubuntu alongside win7 as a dual-boot. I currently have win7 installed using raid5 (total of 5 harddrives (4+1)). How should I partition ubuntu between the drives / is there a reference to this online? That way I don't waste anyones time with installation problems, given that noone answered my questions in #ubuntu-beginners.
[16:32] <bernard__> Hello .I'm hanging around !we try like and share
[16:33] <oCean> bernard__: do you have a support question?
[16:33] <dougl> seriously - has anyone ever installed 10.10 to a usb stick... it is agonizingly slow = how long does it take?
[16:33] <redboat> I want to share the ubuntu computer with my windows 7 machines
[16:33] <bernard__> yeah!I'm still  a beginner
[16:33] <redboat> I ahve two ubuntu computers one upstairs and one in myshop
[16:33] <redboat> how to share hardrive?
[16:33] <oCean> !samba | redboat
[16:33] <IdleOne> !samba | redboat
[16:34] <IdleOne> oCean: to fast :)
[16:34] <sudipta> hey...anyone there?
[16:34] <IdleOne> too*
[16:34] <redboat> samba like the dance?
[16:34] <IdleOne> redboat: exactly
[16:34] <[segfault]> sudipta: over 1500 of us...if you have a question, go ahead and ask :)
[16:34] <blocks> ok ubuntu-server just froze after I q(uit) aptitude menu
[16:34] <blocks> :p
[16:35] <sudipta> I have assked one already....how to install kubuntu in ubuntu?
[16:35] <IdleOne> sudipta: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:35] <Aquaguy> Hey
[16:35] <redboat> how do I keep my ubuntu machines safe from bad varmits
[16:35] <IdleOne> sudipta: after it is done installing you log out and at the login menu you click on session and select Kubuntu.
[16:35] <blocks> redboat: what do you mean?
[16:35] <ankreloaded> I hate this unity desktop in natty...tht dock is really a  distraction when it autohides...is there any way we can lock it permanently?
[16:36] <Aquaguy> does anyone know how to start up always on console mode instead of gmd? I dont want to unistall the gmd package just dissable it from loading at startup
[16:36] <oCean> ankreloaded: #ubuntu+1 for natty
[16:36] <redboat> I mean like malware, trojans
[16:36] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[16:36] <redboat> etc
[16:36] <redboat> etc
[16:36] <IdleOne> !natty | ankreloaded
[16:36] <FloodBot1> redboat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
yeah...but that installs some redundant packages...like ktorrent..although I have tranmission
[16:36] <IdleOne> sudipta: indeed it does.
[16:36] <redboat> ok sorry
[16:36] <blocks> redboat: lol just proctect super user account with a strong password
[16:36] <blocks> redboat: install only from trusted repositories
[16:36] <surbs> ..., I would like help trying to install ubuntu along side win7, I have raid5 and do not know how to much space / what options to select when installing. Any recommendations and/or references that you might be able to point me in the direction of?
[16:37] <Aquaguy> anyones????
[16:37] <blocks> !anyone | Aquaguy
[16:37] <ankreloaded> ubottu: i know :) thanks anyways
[16:37] <redboat> is the ubuntu connical ok
[16:37] <bernard__> I have a question :My computer had installed Mint,and I got one livecd from Ubuntu,but when I insert the cd,the content is about mint ?
if i deselect this redundnat packages...the kubuntu-desktop package automatically gets deselected
[16:37] <Aquaguy> blocks I asked....
[16:37] <Aquaguy> does anyone know how to start up always on console mode instead of gmd? I dont want to unistall the gmd package just dissable it from loading at startup
[16:38] <Psydoll> abel how can i check if build essential is already installed?
[16:38] <IdleOne> sudipta: they are depends of each other. you can uninstall any packages you don't want afterwards. I suggest if you have enough space to install kubuntu from CD to a different partition
[16:38] <oCean> Psydoll: dpkg -l |grep essentia is one way
[16:39] <sudipta> IdleOne:ok...
[16:39] <scarleo> Normally Flash works great for me but on BBC it doesn't work at all, like here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12776418 Anyone knows why that is?
[16:39] <Psydoll> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -l |grep
[16:39] <Psydoll> Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...
[16:39] <Psydoll> Try `grep --help' for more information.
[16:39] <sudipta> IdleOne: :))
[16:39] <Psydoll> thats what i just got
[16:39] <redboat> is there any benifit to 4gb memory on a ubuntu machine?
[16:39] <oCean> Psydoll: after 'grep' type 'essent'
[16:39] <bernard__> and why the CPU is so high?
[16:39] <sudipta> IdleOne:I have another issue...
[16:39] <Psydoll> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ dpkg -l |grep
[16:39] <Psydoll> Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...
[16:39] <Psydoll> Try `grep --help' for more information.
[16:39] <Psydoll> kk
[16:39] <FloodBot1> Psydoll: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:40] <Psydoll> sorry
[16:40] <IdleOne> Psydoll: you need to tell grep what to grep for
[16:40] <blocks> lol I didn't install boot loader in ubuntu server.
[16:40] <IdleOne> so grep "word"
[16:40] <blocks> !grub2
[16:40] <HelloWorld123> I configured my Windows 7 as a Synergy server at <IP_ADDRESS>,  and I set my Ubuntu as a QuickSynergy client at <IP_ADDRESS>.  <IP_ADDRESS> says that the "Synergy server is running".  On <IP_ADDRESS>, I went to QuickSynergy and hit "Execute" on the "Use" tab but the mouse doesn't seem to be responding from the other machine.
[16:40] <bernard__> Quit
[16:40] <sudipta> IdleOne:I used my 4gb pen drive to install ubuntu...now it doesnot show up when plugged in the usb port...any idea?
[16:40] <blocks> IdleOne: how can I generate a grub file for my new ubuntu server installation?
[16:40] <Abhijit_> i downloaded gearth from thier website the latest one. .deb. installed it and it is giving error /usr/bin/google-earth: 43: ./googleearth-bin: not found
[16:40] <Abhijit_> help
[16:41] <IdleOne> blocks: the links ubottu just gave you can tell you
[16:41] <blocks> sudipta: check boot options in bios
[16:41] <redboat> somebody should get money for ubuntu its to good!
[16:41] <oCean> Abhijit_: make sure package 'lsb-core' is installed
[16:41] <blocks> sudipta: u need to put usb first than hdd
[16:41] <erUSUL> !donations
no....i have installed ubuntu
[16:41] <IdleOne> erUSUL: :)
[16:42] <erUSUL> :)
[16:42] <oCean> hehe
[16:42] <redboat> ubuntu comes with ubuntuone at least mine did is there a connection?
[16:42] <cosmo> blocks,  I uninstalled alsa-base and alsa util rebooted, installed those to again and ran sudo alsa force-reload and I still have no sound and nothing shows in the hardware tab of sound preferences
[16:42] <IdleOne> redboat: ubuntuone gives you 2 free gigs of storage
[16:43] <blocks> cosmo: reinstall alsa, pulseaudio etc
afterwards when i insert it into the port...it does not show up
[16:43] <IdleOne> redboat: it is just another freebie the Ubuntu/Canonical provide
[16:43] <blocks> cosmo: and check audio settings in bios
[16:43] <redboat> I found ubuntuone slower than dropbox wich also supposedly works well with ubuntu
[16:43] <IdleOne> redboat: dropbox works well.
any idea?
[16:44] <redboat> there was a magazine about ubuntu on the shelf and it highlighted both ubuntuone and dropbox
[16:44] <cosmo> blocks, I just did that and I never changed my audio settings in the bios, I tried to install the linux drivers that my sound card maker had and that is when I lost sound
[16:44] <Abhijit_> oCean, yes it worked now. thank you.
[16:45] <oCean> Abhijit_: yay :)
[16:45] <redboat> is my chat log storing up on my ssd?
[16:45] <IdleOne> redboat: depending what client you are using, probably is.
[16:46] <redboat> what u mean client?
[16:46] <IdleOne> redboat: client = application you are using to chat
[16:46] <redboat> xchat
[16:46] <Mhaddog> got a question, how does wubi works?
[16:46] <IdleOne> redboat: check in the settings to see if it is logging
[16:46] <redboat> i dont want it eating up my ssd
[16:47] <redboat> do you know where thy are
[16:47] <Mhaddog> does it creates like a "virtual environment" inside windows?
[16:47] <IdleOne> redboat: click on Settings > Prefs.
[16:47] <Mhaddog> or just moves the system partitions, and installs itself in free or whatever space?
[16:47] <IdleOne> redboat: Then click on Logging and disable if enabled.
[16:47] <redboat> it show 500 scroll back lines but what happens after that
[16:48] <Mhaddog> I have a notebook with a optimus nvidia card, and trying to find a way to be able to use the benefits of its, since it is not supported by linux...
[16:48] <IdleOne> redboat: you need to click on Logging in the left pane
[16:48] <redboat> ok enable logging is not checked
[16:48] <zeroburn> Hay can anybody help me with a scripting question?
[16:48] <IdleOne> redboat: it isn't logging.
[16:49] <redboat> thanks
[16:50] <greppy> !ask | zeroburn
[16:51] <zeroburn> I want to use a script to setup the networking interface on my laptop. The entire script is written and works, but only when run from the terminal can I input the neccecary info, how can I edit the script to open a terminal to accept the neccesary information?
[16:51] <gerrin> anyone know anything about the evolution email client, i keep getting an Error Generating list message when i try to check my inbox, how can i fix that?
[16:53] <bluefrog> zeroburn, gnome-terminal -e
[16:53] <blocks> how can I restore ubuntu server grub?
[16:53] <blocks> that thing didnt install bootloader
[16:53] <zeroburn> bluefrog: do I add that after the "#!/bin/bash" line?
[16:53] <hihihi100> i cannot access trash, why?
[16:53] <hylian> how do i change grub2 device to be hd0,0 instead of 2,0.
[16:53] <Mhaddog> try a live cd and then hand install grub @ blocks
[16:54] <dougl> I have been installing 10.10 on my new laptop and is taking over 3 hours to install to usb 2.0 stick => is the computer broken or something?
[16:54] <blocks> Mhaddog: the machine is slow, i cannot use gui. how can i use terminal in livecd
[16:54] <Mhaddog> dougl:  from a stick to the computer? or using the stick as teh disk for that computer?
[16:54] <hihihi100> how do i exit  autilus?
[16:54] <hihihi100> how do i exit  nautilus?
[16:55] <Mhaddog> blocks:  just pop in a live cd, run terminal in that "live cd" envirmonet, mount the hd of the server, and after that install grub to it
[16:55] <hylian> blocks, you can hit escape before it boots, and then a choice will be for system rescue, which should give you the option of a console, if my memory is correct.
[16:55] <blocks> Mhaddog: Mhaddog my machine cannot support graphic enviromnent
[16:56] <zeroburn> bluefrog: is says command not found
[16:56] <Mhaddog> you can boot a live cd in terminal mode
[16:56] <dougl> Mhaddog,  installing to the usb stick from dvd.
[16:56] <blocks> Mhaddog: how?
[16:56] <SnowmanX11> Could somebody tell me similar surface solution for Gnome as Kubuntu Remix 10.10 has? It is important to be simple and Gnome. It will be for reinstall of computer for pensioners.
[16:57] <lusmus> what is the altanative cd? :S
[16:57] <Mhaddog> well.... is usb speed... and reading from and optical drive... and maybe u have a lower class usb stick or slow usb hdd, so be patient.... you can see during install the console commands as they go..
[16:57] <hylian> SnowmanX11, are you looking for a quick boot or low resource version of ubuntu?
[16:58] <blocks> Mhaddog: ok i press F4.. can i use ubuntu desktop to fix ubuntu server grub right??
[16:58] <Mhaddog> blocks:  yea
[16:58] <blocks> k
[16:58] <hylian> how do you change the boot device in grub2 from hd2,0 to 0,0?
[16:59] <SnowmanX11> hylian: Very simple start menu for pensioners, who has a quite chip and low hardware PC.
[16:59] <Mhaddog> blocks:  you can even get more complicated, ssh into the server if its running ubuntu and then mnt and install from remote....
[16:59] <Mhaddog> hylian:  google out grub2 google @ hylian
[16:59] <dougl> Mhaddog, ie using the sti... thanks for the info - just seems so long and slow = hope it runs ok... maybe I should have installed it on the disk
[17:00] <SnowmanX11> hylian: Father in lows computer was equiped with XP that continuously fucked up by their grandchildren.
[17:00] <Mhaddog> dougl:  it's gonna take a long time, when I install from cd/dvd ussually runn about 30 to 40 mins in an average fair computer
[17:00] <hylian> Mhaddog, i did that, i came up with 0. please do not post a non-answer.
[17:00] <Mhaddog> now you doing that to a usb drive....
[17:00] <IdleOne> SnowmanX11: please watch the language
[17:01] <blocks> Mhaddog: I just want to generate grub because Ubuntu Server installation didn't create one :s
[17:01] <hylian> SnowmanX11, hmm, i guess i don't understand what you are looking for.
[17:01] <SnowmanX11> hylian: I am going to reinstall it and secure it by being their root. In a mean time, I am going to simplify their life with a nice menu and stable computer experience.
[17:01] <zeroburn> is there a dedicated chanel for scripting issues?
[17:01] <SnowmanX11> IdleOne: sorry. Mess up.
[17:01] <IdleOne> zeroburn: #programming
[17:01] <Mhaddog> blocks:  i would say it could probably be better to reinstall, if the installation did not do it, probably you got a bad media, other case you might have not choose to do so...
[17:02] <zeroburn> IdleOne: tnx
[17:02] <hylian> SnowmanX11, if simple and ready out of the box is what you are lloking for, you might want to give simply mepis a try. things like flash plugin and java ready out of the box.
[17:02] <SnowmanX11> hylian: just a menu, which has some big icons to choose instead of the whole gnome menu.
[17:02] <blocks> Mhaddog: I just find out why... the system froze before I get to boot loader menu. :P
[17:02] <blocks> im gonna reinstall!
[17:02] <silvas> alguém pode me ajudar, como instalar o receitanet?
[17:03] <SnowmanX11> Kubuntu Remix 10.10 has brilliant simple surface, but I have a problem with it, actually I am not in a big love with KDE.
[17:03] <hylian> SnowmanX11, i see. hmm... well there is an alternative menu for gnome available via ubuntu. you'd have to hunt it down in synaptic, it has more features. i don't know if it what you are looking for.
[17:03] <hylian> does anyone know how to change grub2's hd2,0 to hd0,0?
[17:03] <Mhaddog> blocks:  so I will suggest redo the install, there could be some other issues
[17:04] <coz_> SnowmanX11,  did you install kubuntu-desktop...if so you can go into kde system settings and under one of the menus there you can switch from netbook to desktop
[17:04] <dougl> hylian, what do you mean?
[17:05] <coz_> SnowmanX11,  rather swtich from plasma netbook to regular KDE
[17:05] <Mhaddog> hylian:  you have to hand edit grub2, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html @ hylian
[17:05] <SnowmanX11> coz_: the only problem that I do not want to have KDE at all.
[17:05] <hylian> dougl, for some reason grub was set up as if the hd i wanted was at hd2,0, but it is hd0,0.
[17:05] <hylian> Mhaddog, please, once again not an answer. i know this. i need to know specifically what to do, thank you.
[17:05] <SnowmanX11> coz_: I just would like to have a Kubuntu Remix like surface for Gnome if it exists
[17:05] <Mhaddog> hylian:  ddi you check the box to install it on boot partition?
[17:05] <dinzy> .
[17:05] <coz_> SnowmanX11,  ah ok... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop  && sudo apt-get autoremove  kubuntu-desktop plasma-netbook
[17:05] <edbian> hylian, Have you tried running this:  sudo update-grub   ?  It reprobes and re-writes everything automatically
[17:05] <dinzy> Hello all
[17:06] <coz_> SnowmanX11,  ah ok
[17:06] <dinzy> Hey guys, New here!
[17:06] <dougl> hylian, so not just a grub-install /dev/sda
[17:06] <dinzy> using Xubuntu!
[17:06] <coz_> SnowmanX11,  well plasma netbook is part of kde desktop package I believe  but if not check in synaptic as was suggested ,,hit  Search type in kubuntu
[17:06]  * dinzy is new to Linux
[17:06] <Mhaddog> hylian:  how you expect someone to tell you step by steps if you not provide a paste of your current file?
[17:06] <hylian> Mhaddog, yes, i did. what i did is install it to an external hd. then booted to that external hd, but now the device listed is hd0,0 instead of hd2,0. i guess the answer is idk what happened.
[17:06] <dougl> hylian, and do you have a mix of ide and sata drives?
[17:06] <edbian> dinzy, hello.  Do you have a question?
[17:07] <edbian> hylian, Have you tried running this:  sudo update-grub   ?  It reprobes and re-writes everything automatically
[17:07] <hylian> dougl, all i know is the proper drive setting is hd0,0, but in the config file, which is now ridiculously complicated, it's set as hd2,0.
[17:07] <SnowmanX11> coz_: I know, that is why I asked for similar look for Gnome.
[17:07] <hylian> edbian, actually yes. that did not solve the problem, but thanks for the heads up.
[17:08] <coz_> SnowmanX11,  well gnome's  netbook does not look as clever or pretty as the plasma netbook
[17:08] <SnowmanX11> If nothing else, I will install Kubuntu Remix for them...
[17:08] <SnowmanX11> coz_: agree
[17:08] <hihihi100> i have this problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/702093, what can I do as a temporary solution?
[17:08] <edbian> hylian, You're probably better off writing a custom file: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[17:08] <coz_> SnowmanX11,  the problem with kde is it is far more resource intensive recently
[17:08] <SnowmanX11> coz_: but I dislike KDE. I also do not know that much as Gnome
[17:08] <coz_> SnowmanX11,   I see,,, is this on a desktop or a laptop?
[17:09] <SnowmanX11> coz_: 4 years old cheap desktop
[17:09] <hylian> edbian, no. this should all be super easy, and gui. but i know that's not your fault. it would be faster to just reinstall it than to write a custom file.
[17:09] <coz_> SnowmanX11,  that should be no problem... I would simply remove kubuntu-desktop and plasma-netbook and install ubuntu-desktop
[17:10] <coz_> SnowmanX11,  then log off or restart then log into the gnome desktop
[17:10] <edbian> hylian, perhaps it would be faster for you ;)
[17:10] <dinzy> yeah edbian, I have some graphical issues in Xubuntu.
[17:10] <sudipta> my 4gb pendrive does not show on inserting into the usb port...can anyone help?
[17:10] <coz_> SnowmanX11,  understand that the next version of ubuntu 11.04  will have the netbook edition by default on start up if you have ati or intel video
[17:10] <dinzy> I see that some fonts are little blurred
[17:10] <dinzy> any help?
[17:10] <hylian> does anyone know of a grub gui program i can install that will just let me change the values at will, and who created grub2 so i can send a rather disgruntled email? just kidding. :)
[17:10] <dinzy> in graphical configuration..
[17:11] <coz_> SnowmanX11,  you would have to log off and choose classic gnome or classic gnome ( no effect) for regular gnome
[17:11]  * hylian bashes his skull into a wall
[17:11] <sudipta> can anybody help
[17:11] <sudipta> ??
[17:11] <ruan> sudipta: does it show up if you type "lsusb"
[17:11] <ruan> sudipta: in a terminal
yeah
[17:11] <ruan> sudipta: then you might have to mount it manually
how?
[17:11] <edbian> hihihi100, Is there a .Trash in your /root folder?
[17:12] <ruan> sudipta: sudo fdisk -l
and why?
[17:12] <SnowmanX11> coz_: I just would like to provide a simple surface with a few big icons to choose the core things that they would use on daily bases and not the whole entire menu (independently from Gnome or KDE)
[17:12] <ruan> sudipta: find the device name, eg. /dev/sdc
[17:12] <ruan> sudipta: i dont know why, but i guess it happens
[17:12] <coz_> SnowmanX11,  then go with the gnome netbook edition ...let me see what that is called
[17:12] <lusmus> what is the diff from altanative cd?
[17:12] <ruan> !alternative
[17:13] <hihihi100> edbian, everytime I try to access that dir, the small clock icon will appear and do nothing else, it just waits for an eternity
that means i have to mount it every time
 manually
[17:13] <ruan> sudipta: you could make a bash script for that
[17:13] <edbian> hihihi100, Can you access it via the terminal?
[17:13] <coz_> SnowmanX11,  it is called  ubuntu-netbook
[17:13] <dinzy> Any one free to help me?
[17:13] <dinzy> i have a question.
can it be done automatically upon inserting
[17:14] <hihihi100> edbian, cd /root
[17:14] <dinzy> Why doesnt my other drives show in Linux?
[17:14] <hihihi100> bash: cd: /root: Permission denied
[17:14] <hihihi100> hihihi100@hihihi100-laptop:~$ sudo cd /root
[17:14] <hihihi100> [sudo] password for hihihi100:
[17:14] <hihihi100> sudo: cd: command not found
[17:14] <FloodBot1> hihihi100: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:14] <dinzy> i mean other partitions
[17:14] <edbian> hihihi100, sudo cd /root ?
there is a /dev/sdb
[17:14] <ruan> hihihi100: sudo can't cd
[17:14] <coz_> hihihi100,  no  :  after cd
[17:14] <ruan> wait
[17:14] <edbian> hihihi100, oh I see that
[17:14] <dinzy> aargh.. i have to try it again here.
[17:14] <ruan> sudipta: it is possible but it would take a bit of coding :/
[17:14] <SnowmanX11> coz_: I know, this is what I use on my netbook. But if you compare to Kubuntu Remix, it has more simple surface than the Gnome Remix version. (or netbook as you call it)
[17:14] <edbian> coz_, He didn't type the :'s those are the response to sudo cd <something>
[17:15] <lusmus> ruan: why did my installation get me a into like terminal like enviroment?
[17:15] <coz_> edbian,  ah  then maybe  sudo -i   then   cd /
[17:15] <edbian> hihihi100, Try sudo -i   then cd /root
[17:15] <doc1623> Hi, I have a question, I am using Ubuntu as my media center with xbmc hooked to a 50" plasma... but it doesn't utilize the full screen (bout an inch on all sides missing).
[17:15] <coz_> SnowmanX11,  yes , then I am not sure what it is exactly you want
i am using ubuntu for 3 yrs...i have not faced smthng like it
[17:15] <ruan> lusmus: is it finished installing?
[17:15] <edbian> doc1623, Change your resolution
[17:15] <lusmus> ruan: yea i think so
it used to mount automaticaaly....
[17:15] <ruan> sudipta: have you tried re-inserting it?
[17:15] <nick> which is the size sizeof(width) in C???? :/
[17:16] <coz_> darn   grocery store... be back in a bit
[17:16] <nick> a sorry
[17:16] <ruan> nick: sudo fdisk -l in a terminal
[17:16] <lusmus> ruan: and i choosed CLI.. i dont know which are better :/
[17:16] <nick> typedef unsigned short width
yesterday i reinstalled ubuntu....only after that this happens
[17:16] <dinzy> Why doesnt my other drives show in Xubuntu?
yeah I have tried that
[17:16] <dinzy> I have only the Root.
[17:16] <j0nnyf1ve> join #exaile
[17:16] <hihihi100> edbian http://paste.ubuntu.com/582548/
[17:17] <nick> typedef unsigned short width;  #define WIDTH (8*sizeof(width)) ... i canth find the size of width and i dont understand the code :/
[17:17] <ruan> width?
[17:17] <edbian> hihihi100, run ls -la   what's in there?  (you seem to have made it in)
[17:17] <nick> yea
[17:17] <nick> i read a CRC code
[17:17] <ruan> ...i dont understand what hard drive 'width' is.
[17:18] <nick> unsigned short width
[17:18] <nick> is the definition of variable
[17:18] <dinzy> Man.. Where is the Help channel or am in wrong channel?
[17:18] <dinzy> sigh
[17:18] <hihihi100> edbian, I think not: http://paste.ubuntu.com/582549/ thats not my trash folder
[17:18] <nick> i know the char size
[17:18] <edbian> dinzy, you're in the right place.  It's just that nobody knows how to help you.
[17:18] <nick> is 1 byte :P
[17:18] <dinzy> :(
[17:18] <dinzy> < is clueless
[17:18] <dinzy> and lost :)
[17:18] <dinzy> all i ahve is this chat..lol
[17:19] <dinzy> *have
[17:19] <nick> but i dont know the size of unsigned short
[17:19] <ruan> dinzy: have you tried earlier?
[17:19] <dinzy> with ubuntu.. slight touch
[17:19] <dinzy> not too depth
[17:19] <edbian> hihihi100, You're in your home...
[17:19] <lusmus> ruan: is it cus of cli i get this?
[17:19] <dinzy> with Xubuntu this is first time.
[17:19] <ruan> lusmus: im not sure. what happens if you type "startx"?
[17:19] <dinzy> i like to test and learn things
[17:19] <lusmus> ruan: terminal envirement
[17:19] <edbian> hihihi100, Oh wait, no, all of that is owned by root.  You are in the root dir
[17:20] <dinzy> Which Linux do you guys use?
[17:20] <ruan> dinzy: ubuntu 10.10 here
[17:20] <dinzy> great
[17:20] <greyhatsalafi> crunchbang
[17:20] <edbian> hihihi100, There is no .Trash   you should make one.  mkdir .Trash/
[17:20] <dinzy> super
[17:20] <oCean> dinzy: this is support channel, for social chat join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:20] <dinzy> Thanks ocean.. I will
[17:20] <lusmus> ruan: tells me that i need to install that thing to use that command i think..
[17:20] <dinzy> how to join?
[17:20] <dinzy> lol
[17:21] <ruan> lusmus: then install it, if you wish to access the gui.
[17:21] <oCean> dinzy: type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:21] <dinzy> hang on with me guys
[17:21] <greyhatsalafi> type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:21] <dinzy> ok
[17:21] <ruan> or /j
[17:21] <ruan>  /j #channel
[17:21] <oCean> ruan: that is an alias, does not work in all clients
[17:21] <ruan> worked in xchat and irssi and chatzilla
[17:22] <lusmus> ruan: i dont know if i choosed right method.. to installing.. i choosed CLI :/
[17:23] <ruan> lusmus: that's not stopping you from installing a GUI
[17:23] <dinzy>  Thanks ocean.. joined it.
[17:23] <hihihi100> edbian, I created Trash, i cannot cd to it
[17:23] <edbian> hihihi100, Did you create .Trash?   or Trash  ??
[17:24] <hihihi100> .Trash/
[17:24] <edbian> hihihi100, Who owns it?  What are the permissions on it?
[17:24] <hihihi100> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2011-03-19 18:21 .Trash
[17:24] <hihihi100> root
[17:24] <lusmus> ruan: i thought i
[17:25] <ruan> lusmus: i think sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   should do it?
[17:25] <edbian> hihihi100, That is bizarre.  Anybody should be able to cd into it.  What does 'whoami' output?  Are you root right now?
[17:25] <lusmus> ruan: how much diff is it from installing from a livecd.. the main thing is that i wanted to install like live cd but with a command line interface with the installer
[17:26] <hihihi100> root@hihihi100-laptop:~# , not hihihi100@hihihi100-laptop:~$, so Im root
[17:26] <hihihi100> rap, whoami shows hihihi100
[17:26] <ruan> lusmus: well its a cli install
[17:26] <hihihi100> edbian, ignore that
[17:26] <edbian> hihihi100, ok, but you're root in the bash shell so...  Can you ls -la .Trash   (just look into it without going into it?)
[17:26] <hihihi100> edbian, that was a different terminal
[17:27] <edbian> hihihi100, What was a different terminal?  I can see your screenshot here...
[17:27] <hihihi100> edbian, in another terminal, I was trying to access trash
[17:27] <hihihi100> like hihihi100
[17:27] <lusmus> ruan: its why i got like this.. or is it the same on whole cd on altanative cd=
[17:27] <edbian> hihihi100, So you are inside it?  Is it empty?  Can you access Trash using gksudo nautilus?
[17:28] <ruan> lusmus: well im not sure
[17:28] <hihihi100> edbian http://paste.ubuntu.com/582553/
[17:28] <ruan> lusmus: but as i said, nothing is stopping you from installing ubuntu-desktop and booting it
[17:29] <doc1623> Hello, I posted a question a few minutes ago, using a pc with ubuntu as my media center connected vi hdmi with a 50" plasma and it doesn't go full screen. I was told to check resolution but it is correct 1920x1080, any other ideas on what to check? Thx in advance
[17:29] <edbian> hihihi100, What about in gksudo nautilus?
[17:29] <hihihi100> edbian, http://paste.ubuntu.com/582554/
[17:30] <edbian> hihihi100, You're very good with pastebin :)
[17:30] <hihihi100> months of bugs.. lol
[17:31] <edbian> hihihi100, You can't gksudo as root.  Either switch to hihihi10 or just run nautilus as root
[17:31] <edbian> hihihi100, Also, it looks like the nautilus window might have opened.  Those are not critical errors I don't think.
[17:32] <zatan> Hi, can anybody explain why in gnome-terminal when I typed in "python" its comes up as version Python 2.5.5 , but if I typed "/usr/bin/python" comes up with Python 2.6 ?
[17:33] <oleg_> помогите настроить флэш в инете или подскажите правильный линуксовый браузер челллловеку сменившему оболочку и ни х не понимающему  куда он попал
[17:33] <EClaesson> zatan: Do you have python 2.6 in your PATH?
[17:33] <doc1623> trying again, does anybody know why plasma via hdmi doesn't go full screen, resolution is set to factory resolution 1920x1080?
[17:33] <ankreloaded> zatan: because you have two versions of python installed and the old one is in your path?
[17:34] <hihihi100> edbian, im in trash, its empty, It cannot be empty, I erased some files from my home folder, but didnt delete them from trash
[17:34] <hihihi100> edbian, no, wait, its the small clock again
[17:35] <ruan> what video formats can aview view?
[17:35] <edbian> hihihi100, I'm not surprised it's empty.  I'm expecting that from now on it will work.
[17:35] <Jordan_U> zatan: Run "which python" to see the default python binary that's executed.
[17:35] <zatan> EClaesson,  ankreloaded do i need to set up path in .basrc  file ?
[17:35] <hihihi100> edbian, all the past commands typed in the terminal are gone, i cannot just click up to see them
[17:35] <edbian> hihihi100, Cause you switched user perhaps?  (the sudo timed out)
[17:35] <lusmus> what would you choose? wubi or install it around windows?
[17:35] <zatan> Jordan_U,  ed@ed:~$ which python
[17:35] <zatan> /usr/local/bin/python
[17:36] <hihihi100> edbian i dont know
[17:36] <EClaesson> zatan: PATH=/usr/path/python26:$PATH
[17:36] <edbian> hihihi100, The files you moved to Trash originally. Are they anywhere or are they just gone?
[17:36] <EClaesson> Adds python 2.6 to your path
[17:36] <edbian> hihihi100, Look at the prompt.  you@yourcomputer:...
[17:36] <zatan> EClaesson,  thanks
[17:36] <EClaesson> zatan: But then you need to remove 2.5.5 from PATH, or else it might run tat instead
[17:36] <pankaj_sharma> whats the command to install java sdk?
[17:37] <ruan> pankaj_sharma: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[17:38] <erUSUL> pankaj_sharma: sun's or openjdk ?
[17:38] <zatan> EClaesson,  ed@ed:~$ sudo rm /usr/local/bin/python
[17:38] <zatan> ed@ed:~$ sudo ln -s /usr/bin/python2.6 /usr/local/bin/python
[17:38] <zatan> ed@ed:~$ python
[17:38] <zatan> Python 2.6.6 (r266:84292, Sep 15 2010, 16:22:56)
[17:38] <FloodBot1> zatan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:38] <zatan> thank u guys ;]
[17:38] <pankaj_sharma> ruan, erUSUL thanks
[17:38] <pankaj_sharma> sun
[17:38] <EClaesson> zatan: No problem :)
[17:39] <jayant> hello everyone. I downloaded "tuxGuitar" and there isn't any audio played through it. My audio system is fine because i can play audio from rythmbox. On the application's settings, there are only two sound options and i tried both of them and still there isn't any sound played. Can someone help me with this problem please.
[17:40] <Sary_> Anyone out there to help me out with some problems installing ubuntu?
[17:40] <edbian> Sary_, Sure, what's the problem.
[17:40] <Sary_> The problems arent exactly with ubuntu but rather with booting from the USB drive
[17:40] <erUSUL> !java | pankaj_sharma
[17:40] <Sary_> I go into my BIOS and change the boot priority to my removable device
[17:40] <edbian> Sary_, ok...
[17:40] <Sary_> (which was difficult in the first place because it doesnt tell me what key to use, damn windows...)
[17:40] <ruan> Sary_: ok, what happens if you try to boot it?
[17:41] <Sary_> but then, it loads up windows as normal
[17:41] <edbian> Sary_, Your bios actually has nothing to do with Windows
[17:41] <edbian> Sary_, Change the bios to ask you at boot time if you can.  Often that is much more clear.
[17:41] <Sary_> How do I do that?
[17:42] <b0ss8055> Sary_depends on ur mthrboard
[17:42] <Sary_> (no the BIOS itself is fine, its that the restart covers my "go into set up using this key" with a silly useless black screen)
[17:42] <edbian> Sary_, Well ever bios is a little different.    It's probably near the boot order option
[17:42] <Sary_> Which is where i've been dicking around... I changed it in boot priority to boot from removable drive,
[17:43] <bluefrog> doc1623, with nvidia you could have a go at the "overcan compensation". with ATI I don't know
[17:43] <Sary_> its actually on that now, and im here on windows
[17:43] <edbian> Sary_, The bios is completely finished doing everything it does by the time windows is running.  If windows is even loading!
[17:43] <edbian> Sary_, I have no clue what 'go into set up using this key' is
[17:44] <Sary_> It sure is loading.. so I should restart, go into BIOS again, and find out how to make it ask me what to boot from during boot?
[17:44] <Sary_> sorry.. you know, press F2 To enter setup, it shows up when you boot
[17:44] <wasutton3> Does anyone know of a usb fm tuner that is well supported under linux? I have found a few, but they dont seem to be for sale anymore
[17:45] <louis_> hey
[17:45] <edbian> Sary_, That is my suggestion yes.  If you tell it to boot CD rom then HDD and there is no CD in the drive or the CD is not bootable, then the machine will go to the hdd and boot windows.  That's probably what is happening wit the USB drive
[17:45] <jayant> can somebody please help me with a problem with "tuxGuitar" No audio is played through that application
[17:45] <Hedgehog456> !info clamtk
[17:45] <Abhijit_> wasutton3, what does usb fm tuner does?
[17:45] <Sary_> Hm... I dont even have a cd drive, i'm on a netbook, but it offers me the option to boot from CD drive... I tried that too, when removable drive didnt succeed
[17:45] <wasutton3> Abhijit_:  It allows you to listen to FM radio on your comptuer
[17:45] <doc1623> bluefrog, just checked its Radeon HD 4350
[17:45] <Abhijit_> wasutton3, hmm you mean read world fm and not online fm?
[17:46] <edbian> Sary_, Don't worry about CD drive.  You don't have one and you're not using one.  I was just giving that as an example
[17:46] <bluefrog> doc1623, must be something similar for ATI anyway
[17:46] <wasutton3> Abhijit_: Yes, its for an in car PC i am building
[17:46] <Abhijit_> wasutton3, hmm ok
[17:46] <Sary_> So what's the best way for me to go forward? I'm sorry, I'm a little new to this
[17:46] <Sary_> I was messing with BIOS back in the days of Windows 98, but I've been without computers for three years now and have lost some of my skills
[17:46] <ruan> how can i view videos in terminal? aview isnt working
[17:47] <ruan> ascii of course
[17:47] <doc1623> bluefrog, ok, I'll check it out... I read somewhere it might be the program that controls the effects...but I set that to no effects
[17:47] <oleg_>  (((
[17:47] <EClaesson> Sary_: Are you sure the removable device you are using actually is bootable? Is ubuntu (or whatever is it) properly placed there?
[17:47] <doc1623> bluefrog thanks for the help, googling it now
[17:47] <edbian> Sary_, 3 years with computers?!  How do you live?  Anyway, one of two things are going wrong.  One, the usb drive is set set up correctly.  2 the bios is not trying to boot it.  Unfortunately I can't think of a way to test each individually.  I suggest messing with the bios some more and at least confirm that the USB drive should have booted.
[17:47] <oleg_> нихера  не понимаю
[17:48] <b0ss8055> Sary_wich software do u usd to make d usb a bootable ubuntu?
[17:48] <Sary_> I installed ubuntu on the USB drive according to the directions, it all went smoothly... is it bootable or not, I don't know, its a little 4 gig USB drive that I formatted when I installed ubuntu
[17:48] <edbian> Sary_, If you can get the BIOS to ask you what to boot ti will be very clear whether or not the USB drive is set up correctly
[17:48] <CraftLawrence> Привет всем.
[17:48] <xrdodrx> !ru | oleg_
[17:48] <Sary_> I did get to a screen where it offered to boot from what operating system, but only offered Windows 7 as an option
[17:48] <Sary_> does that mean my USB drive isn't bootable, and if so can I change that?
[17:49] <Hedgehog456> is everything in 'universe' repository safe?
[17:49] <b0ss8055> Sary_dat means ur usb is nt booting
[17:49] <edbian> Sary_, I'm not familiar with the screen you're talking about.  I can't say what it means.
[17:49] <pankaj_Sharm> cantt say
[17:49] <Sary_> Oh wow, now I'm looking and it doesn't even seem to read my USB drive... let me dig, I'll be back
[17:49] <magicianlord> what is mode 0755 and 1777 in fstab?
[17:49] <doc1623> Sary_ , it may not be able to find the mbr... try to redo the usb, google billix usb for a good tutorial
[17:49] <BCMM> is it possible to install ubuntu from another OS, such as from a different Live CD?
[17:50] <magicianlord> yes BCMM
 what do you mean by safe? Malware-free? yes. Guaranteedto work as advertised? nope!
[17:50] <david234> Is there a command to automatically customize the kernel drivers for my computer?
[17:50] <BCMM> magicianlord: how?
[17:50] <Sary_> Oh! It reads my USB drive but now it's no longer read as a USB drive, it reads it as "Local Disk" "Install Ubuntu Netbook"
[17:50] <edbian> Sary_, You got it. :)
[17:50] <BCMM> (i've already got a GRML netboot server and don't really want to have to set it up to boot ubuntu too, for a single install)
[17:51] <oleg_>  oleg_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[17:51] <oleg_> что то члабо помогает непонятная ссылка
[17:51] <b0ss8055> Sary_ check this out http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-bios-boot-options/
[17:51] <edbian> david234, The Ubuntu kernel has tons of drivers (called modules) in it already so that it works on just about any computer.  You can get more compact kernels.  It is not easy.  This is one of the ideas behind Gentoo
[17:52] <magicianlord> BCMM: the live iso comes with a windows installer. i dont recommend tha tthough
[17:52] <dArKd3ViL> +1
[17:52] <Sary_> Awesome, I'm going to try this again, thanks!
[17:52] <david234> edbian I left gentoo because it was much to much effort to maintain :) But I want tux at boot :D
[17:52] <edbian> Sary_, :)  have fun
[17:52] <edbian> david234 tux at boot?
[17:53] <tangibleghost> does anyone know how to map the two-finger tap on a touchpad to a button? Mine is currently button #2 and I want button #3
[17:53] <BCMM> magicianlord: nah, i don't want to install from windows. i'm talking about running the linux installer program, but from a different linux system
[17:53] <BCMM> like i said, i already have a GRML netboot setup that i'd like to use
[17:53] <BCMM> (to install ubuntu on a system with no cd drive)
[17:55] <ankreloaded> BCMM: By another linux system, do you mean installing over a network...as in lan?
[17:55] <jont2383> !offtopic
[17:55] <BCMM> ankreloaded: no, what i mean is, does ubuntu have an installer than can be run from another distro
[17:56] <BCMM> ankreloaded: e.g. a live cd that works better with certain hardware
[17:56] <BCMM> (or, in my case, an existing netboot setup)
[17:56] <EClaesson> #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:56] <EClaesson> sorry
[17:56] <Jeruvy> jayant: have a check at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-255089.html
[17:56] <BCMM> installing ubuntu is offtopic?
[17:57] <BCMM> ok, bye.
[17:57] <edbian> EClaesson, ?
[17:57] <sudipta> i have a 4gb pendrive that does not show up when into the usb port...though it is mounted(lspci)...what to do?can anybody help?
[17:58] <jayant> Jeruvy: ok....thanks
[17:58] <EClaesson> edbian: I missed a / j  I tried to join the channel and missed a few keys :P
[17:59] <edbian> EClaesson, hahaha, you really offended BCMM.
[17:59] <sudipta> is there anyone who can help me?
[18:00] <EClaesson> edbian, yes, that mistyping came in a rather bad moment :P
[18:01] <ankreloaded> hahaha
[18:01] <b0ss8055> sudipta: u mean its not autoplaying?
[18:01] <Cube``> hey, i'm having a problem with permissions on my box running apache2 and recess-php-framework
yeah....it is mounted...but does not show anywhere
[18:02] <jayant> hello everyone. I have usb modem and i use sakis3G to connect to internet. I have connected my laptop to my desktop via lan. How can i share that internet connection on my laptop...I want to access the same internet on both
[18:02] <BCMM> sorry for misunderstanding
[18:03] <edbian> BCMM, yeah he wasn't talking to you.  hahaa
[18:03] <EClaesson> Really sorry BCMM, wasn't meant for you at all
[18:03] <edbian> BCMM, In response to your question.  I am not aware of an installer that installs to another computer.  But if you get the installer running you can use it to install to any hdd connected to that machine.
[18:04] <BCMM> EClaesson: still not sure if jont2383 was referring to me or not...
[18:04] <BCMM> edbian: that wasn't what i was asking about, but thanks
[18:04] <BCMM> i'm asking if it is possible to run the ubuntu installer from another distro
[18:05] <jont2383> BCCM : did i accidently type something ?
[18:05] <BCMM> for example, run it from a non-ubuntu live cd
are u there?
[18:05] <BCMM> the network thing is basically irrelevant; that just happens to be how i'm booting the system
[18:05] <b0ss8055> sudipta:does it workd 4 u earlier?or is it lyk this frm the 1st tym?
[18:06] <edbian> BCMM mmmmm,  perhaps.  You can download the source, compile it, and then try to run it. It's just a program.  Will it work?  I don't know.  (seems like it probably won't be able to find the files it needs to copy)
earlier it worked fine...yesterday i reinstalled my ubuntu 10.10...after that this weird problem occured
[18:06] <BCMM> i'm not looking to go to that much trouble; just wondering if it's an option that's already sorta-supported
[18:07] <BCMM> i mean, that sounds like more trouble than setting up ubuntu netbooting properly
[18:07] <b0ss8055> sudipta:is it showing under media folder?
[18:07] <steve0hh> hello!
nope....but it shows on lsusb
[18:07] <edbian> BCMM Yeah it would be a tremendous amount of trouble.  I'm not aware of a pre-configured solution like you're looking for.
[18:07] <HelloWorld123> I have a default installation of Ubuntu: do I have kdm, xdm, or gdm?  I'm trying to find the place to get Synergy to autostart.
and in system->admin->disk utility
[18:08] <erUSUL> HelloWorld123: gdm
[18:08] <HelloWorld123> tx
[18:08] <edbian> HelloWorld123, gdm
[18:08] <edbian> HelloWorld123, gdm -> gnome, kdm -> kde, xdm -> xfce
[18:09] <ruan> what does gdm stand for? gnome desktop mode?
[18:09] <pankaj_Sharm> !gdm
[18:09] <BCMM> ruan: gnome display manager
[18:09] <edbian> ruan, gnome display manager.  it's the login screen
[18:09] <l1nuxman> log file to view hostnames for remote user logins?
[18:09] <ruan> thanks
[18:09] <b0ss8055> Sudipta:is it showing mounted in the disk utility?
[18:09] <ruan> close enough
yeah
[18:10] <edbian> l1nuxman, /var/log/auth.log
[18:10] <BCMM> ruan: it's a "display manager" in that it manages graphical logins on a display
[18:10] <l1nuxman> edbian, but I don't see any ip's or hostnames
[18:10] <fizy[laptop]> hey guys, does ubuntu 10.04 come on a cd or a dvd?
[18:11] <edbian> l1nuxman, Then the only logins were local.   You won't get hostnames in the log.
[18:11] <l1nuxman> ohhh
[18:11] <edbian> fizy[laptop], cd (both I think)
[18:11] <shri31> ya both
[18:11] <townes> no sound in ubuntu 10.04, under gnome-volume-control no hardware is listed...?
[18:11] <edbian> !sound
[18:11] <shri31> change the settings in sound preferences.
[18:11] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: ok. i am trying to find out wich of my unlabeled rewritable discs contains ubuntu, and im in a hurry so yeah
[18:12] <HelloWorld123> So I'm looking for the configuration files to autostart Synergy and QuickSynergy at /etc/X11/gdm/Init/Default
[18:12] <joe_9> in ubuntu I've included libjpeg as part of my application. However I am unable to find certain methods, how can I see what header file my version of libjpeg has?
[18:12] <townes> shri31, if you mean selected a device, there are none to select
[18:12] <edbian> fizy[laptop], sudo fdisk -l will list which are linux partitions
[18:12] <b0ss8055> sudipta:u tried unplugging n plugging it again?
yeah
[18:12] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: nono. im installing linux on mmy new computer, and i know i have a ubuntu disc somewhere, i just want to search as few discs as possible
[18:13] <sacarlson>  HelloWorld123: I normaly use cron to autostart add a line with @reboot
[18:13] <b0ss8055> Sudipta:tried rebooting with the usb drive inserted?
[18:13] <shri31> @townes:what does alsa mixer show
[18:13] <Somelauw> Hi
[18:13] <Kochanka> Hi all
yaeh
[18:13] <pankaj_Sharm> whats the command to remove a user
[18:13] <edbian> fizy[laptop], You wanna check the CD's?  Put them in the drive while windows is running.  It will show up all Ubuntu-y
[18:13] <shri31> Hi kochanka
[18:13] <Somelauw> When using ubuntu with awesome some features seeem to be missing
[18:13] <Somelauw> Like automatic updates.
[18:13] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: i know. i just want to do that with as few discxs as possible
[18:14] <edbian> Somelauw, Look at system -> admin -> update manager
[18:14] <edbian> fizy[laptop], Magically read the CD's with your bare eyes
[18:14] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: they arae rewritable, so i dont lable them
[18:14] <BCMM> hmm looks like debbootstrap can do that https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/hppa/linux-upgrade.html
[18:14] <BCMM> thanks anyway!
[18:14] <edbian> fizy[laptop], There is no faster way to check them than to check them
[18:14] <fizy[laptop]> edbian: i already found it. thanks
[18:14] <Somelauw> edbian: Yes, but when I try to update something, it won't prompt for a password and work.
[18:14] <edbian> fizy[laptop], good :)
[18:14] <zth> hey guys.. i'm going to record a nylon acoustic guitar with a condensator microphone, and it's a pretty fast plucked piece. i want a good balance between the high/low strings. could anyone point me in the right direction with microphone placement?
[18:14] <edbian> Somelauw, How are you trying to update?
[18:15] <fizy[laptop]> well i just didnt want to check rw dvds if it was on a cd
[18:15] <cosmo> after I tried to install the linux sound card drivers from the maker's website I lost all sound and nothing shows in the hardware tab of sound preferences, I uninstalled alsa-base and alsa-util, rebooted, installed those to again and ran sudo alsa force-reload and I still have no sound and nothing shows in the hardware tab of sound preferences, any ideas?
[18:15] <townes> shri31, I could be mistaken, but I don't think I've ever had alsamixer in 10.04. I should install it?
[18:15] <edbian> zth, That has nothing to do with ubuntu?
[18:15] <Somelauw> edbian: MOD4 + R: update-manager
[18:15] <edbian> fizy[laptop], It's probably on a CD ;)
[18:15] <San_> how to get backtrack on linux
[18:15] <zth> edbian, word, didn't realize i was in this channel and did a amsg lol
[18:15] <edbian> Somelauw, MOD4 + R is not a valid command?
[18:15] <shri31> try it . gnome-alsamixer
[18:15] <edbian> zth, haha
[18:16] <Somelauw> edbian MOD4 is the windoze key
are u there?
[18:16] <townes> shrey, not installed. I'll install and see if that takes me anywhere
[18:16] <Somelauw> edbian: And r is lowercase
[18:16] <townes> shri31, , not installed. I'll install and see if that takes me anywhere
[18:16] <b0ss8055> sudipta:sory a litl bsy here...will be back
[18:16] <Somelauw> edbian: I am using awesome, remember
[18:16] <edbian> Somelauw, OOOhh, didn't know you were on awesome.  What does that key-binding do then?
[18:16] <marc__> suddenly my machine is saying that network is not enabled even though i have a connection. Any ideas on how to fix this?
ok
[18:16] <shri31> are you sure your hardware doesnt have a problem?
[18:17] <sudipta> can anybody else help?
[18:17] <townes> shri31, I have no idea really.
[18:17] <edbian> marc__, Right click the applet, enable networking checkbox
[18:17] <shri31> do you dual boot?
[18:17] <marc__> edbian, its greyed out
[18:17] <townes> I don't
[18:17] <edbian> marc__, sudo service networking restart
[18:18] <mdg2> Hello!  It is possible to remove distros from the list in the Startup Disk Creator?
[18:18] <marc__> edbian, will try, hold
[18:18] <edbian> marc__, holding...
[18:18] <shri31> Did u try plugging in the headphones while booting
[18:19] <sudipta> is there anybody who can help me....having a weird problem
[18:19] <Somelauw> edbian: It is like Alt+f2 in gnome (launching a program)
[18:19] <townes> shri31, I don't recall specifically but it's possible
[18:19] <shri31> @sudipta:??
[18:19] <edbian> Somelauw, ok.  So what does this have to do with updating programs?
[18:19] <townes> (gnome-alsamixer is blank, or when I click on sound card properties it exits out)
[18:19] <marc__> edbian, say unknown commnd restart
[18:20] <sudipta> shri31:yeah
[18:20] <mdg2> Hello!  It is possible to remove distros from the list in the Startup Disk Creator?
[18:20] <Somelauw> Also (stupid question). What does sudo aptitude auto-remove do?
my pendrive does not show up
[18:20] <edbian> marc__, Did you make a typo??
pls....help me!!!!
[18:20] <cosmo> townes, same problem here
[18:20] <shri31> @townes:may be the kernel isnt recognising your audio chip so try plugging in the headphones so that the kernel loads your driver module during boot time
[18:20] <marc__> edb, illtry again but think not
[18:21] <townes> shri31, alright will give that a go in a sec
[18:21] <townes> cosmo, how long has it been going on?
[18:21] <shri31> wassup sudipta
[18:22] <marc__> edbian, now it says restart:unknown instance
not good....having a weid problem
[18:22] <Somelauw> When I try to update something, it won't prompt for a password when I click "update"
[18:22] <cosmo> townes, since I tried to install the linux drivers from the manufacturer
[18:22] <Somelauw> edbian: And I can easily work around that, but I am just wondering why that happens.
[18:23] <edbian> Somelauw, removes packages that were automatically installed to satisfy dependencies but are no longer needed.
[18:23] <marc__> edbian, and placed a lightbulb next to network manager that say networking not enabled
[18:23] <townes> cosmo, ah. what's tripping me up is that I didn't try updating anything when this happened =/... maybe you could roll back your drivers?
[18:23] <edbian> marc__, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart   (does that work?)
[18:23] <DaGeek247> i have a windows XP Pro cd, and a 20GB secondary partition. how do i install windows XP and keep ubuntu? (its on the first partition)
[18:23] <marc__> edbian, ill try
[18:23] <shri31> @sudipta: goto Administration-> disk utility. try to mount it. if not possible.format it!
[18:23] <cosmo> townes, I dont know how
[18:23] <Somelauw> edbian: Some website told me that removes old kernels, but I am scared that it will remove windoze too.
[18:23] <edbian> Somelauw, How are you trying to update?
[18:23] <edbian> Somelauw, it will not remove windows.  I guarantee that
[18:24] <edbian> Somelauw, it might remove old kernels.  I'm not sure.  the old kernels are packages just like anything else.
[18:24] <Somelauw> i also prefer to leave at least 2 kernels on my system.
in disk utility i can not mount it...or amy other pd
[18:24] <edbian> marc__, Different command, some effect
[18:24] <townes> cosmo, I've never done it..google or ask here maybe
[18:24] <shri31> try formatting
[18:24] <Somelauw> edbian: what is the safest way to remove them?
[18:24] <francesco_> stupidta ... try fdisk
[18:25] <cosmo> townes, thats what I have been doing for at least 4 hours
[18:25] <edbian> Somelauw, Finding the packages manually in synaptic and removing exactly the ones you want.  Now how are you trying to update your software?
 u hav gparted?
[18:25] <townes> cosmo, haha I feel you... let me see if I can try to look it up
no
[18:25] <Somelauw> edbian: win + r, and then typing update-manager and then pressing enter
[18:25] <marc__> edbian, command  not found
[18:26] <Somelauw> edbian: And then selecting "update"
[18:26] <l1nuxman> so if two users are logged in under the same user, if I type history, it would show the combination of our commands?
[18:26] <edbian> Somelauw, And then the update-manager launches correct?
[18:26] <Somelauw> edbian: And then nothing happens, while it should open gksudo
try installing it.nice gui partition manager
[18:26] <Somelauw> To prompt for a password.
[18:26] <greppy> l1nuxman: no.
[18:26] <Somelauw> So, maybe it has problems with popups or somethin
[18:26] <shri31> @townes: i jus found the dummest workaround for solving all ubuntu10.04 sound related bugs.... INSTALL KDE!!!
[18:27] <marc__> edbian, restarting did not work either
[18:27] <townes> cosmo, go to synaptic and search for your sound driver
[18:27] <l1nuxman> greppy, how can I view the other persons?
[18:27] <townes> shri31, hahaha
[18:27] <edbian> Somelauw, update-manager in a terminal.  keep in mind that typing in the passwords lasts for about 15 minutes
[18:27] <shri31> it worked for me !!
[18:27] <edbian> marc__, I think you're making a typo
[18:27] <Somelauw> edbian: Although I can't test now, since I already installed updates.
[18:27] <greppy> l1nuxman: you can't really, it's in memory associated with their shell.
[18:27] <townes> shri31, I believe you :)
[18:27] <b0ss8055> i cant here my empathy alert tone..help me pls
[18:27] <Somelauw> edbian: I worked around by typing gksudo update-manager in a terminal
[18:28] <shri31> i aint kiddin
[18:28] <l1nuxman> greppy, but it must be somewhere in logs no?
[18:28] <Somelauw> edbian: But I wonder why it won't show that popup
[18:28] <edbian> Somelauw, It is remembering the password for 15 minutes
[18:28] <shri31> install kde-plasma-desktop
[18:28] <marc__> edbian, nope copy and pasted your command
[18:28] <edbian> Somelauw, I'm not really worried about it.  I'm SURE it's secure.  It's probably caching the password.
[18:28] <townes> shri31, I might very well give that a go if I can't figure it out by tomorrow
[18:28] <meteoro> yo?
[18:29] <green__> I lost my X11/xorg.conf file when i tried to get compiz 9x
[18:29] <edbian> marc__, What part of the command does it complain about?  Can you pastebin the error?
[18:29] <townes> cosmo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1316634 allegedly that might work, I'm going to give it a go and see
[18:30] <kalash61> I want to install multiseat in ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10, I have 2 monitors 2 mice 2 keyb and a dual head Nvidia, help please
[18:30] <Somelauw> edbian: I didn't saw update progress either. Just nothing happened.
[18:30] <shri31> if the problem is related to ubuntu10.04(gnome)... it will be resolved... else there is something wrong with the driver (or) hardware (or) ..i dont know!!
[18:30] <edbian> Somelauw, Perhaps there was no updates?  Or very few and it went very fast.
[18:31] <marc__> edbian, tried it again, it said reconfiguring devices, but still has enable networking in grey
[18:31] <kalash61> anybody knows something about multiseat?
[18:31] <edbian> marc__, mmmm, what did you do that caused this issue originally?
[18:31] <marc__> edbian, just a restart
[18:32] <marc__> edbian, should i try to resart again?
[18:32] <edbian> marc__, can you pastebin /etc/networking/interfaces   ?  Restarts never hurt but I don't think it'll help.
[18:32] <Somelauw> edbian: It worked after I did the gksudo from terminal trick and there were definitely updates.
[18:33] <edbian> Somelauw, I thin if you run as a normal user and then hit the update button it would ask
[18:33] <qwebirc26475> hello
[18:34] <qwebirc26475> How can I disable user login in Ubuntu Server?
[18:34] <qwebirc26475> I just want to boot the computer without typing the password
[18:34] <townes> brb
[18:34] <qwebirc26475> !server
[18:34] <marc__> edbian,  I have no /etc/networking  just a 'network" and a "network manager"
[18:35] <edbian> marc__, Well that probably explains that!  sudo /etc/network/interfaces
[18:35] <marc__> edbian, ok, will try
[18:36] <edbian> marc__, do this instead:  gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[18:36] <Oins> Hi. I try to mount my ftp server with curlftpfs. The main problem now is, that the username contains an @ symbol (user@domain) and curlftpfs stops after the @. So, "curlftpfs user=name@domain ..." only use as username "name" and not "name@domain". Any ideas?
[18:36] <edbian> marc__, And that means the previous command is.  sudo service network restart
[18:36] <Oins> btw. user="name@domain" does not work too
[18:37] <qwebirc26475> just tell me. is it possible to disable user login in ubuntu server?
[18:37] <Sary_> Hi guys its Sary again... having the same problem but with some more interesting details
[18:37] <edbian> Sary_, usb boot on a netbook right...
[18:37] <Sary_> thats right
[18:38] <Sary_> so here's something interesting... I tried to autoplay from my USB in windows and it didnt work... I decided to reformat my USB drive and re-install the whole usb boot thing to my usb
[18:38] <Sary_> so I did that, went to BIOS, and disabled booting from hard drive and booting from CD drive,
[18:38] <qwebirc26475> -:ALL EXCEPT root:LOCAL
[18:38] <Kochanka> lol:d
[18:38] <Sary_> and then when it booted after that, it gave me this message:
[18:38] <Sary_> Reboot and select proper boot device or Insert boot media in selected Boot Devices
[18:39] <Sary_> press any key to continue
[18:39] <Sary_> etc. so its not reading the usb as a proper boot device,
[18:39] <qwebirc26475> !anyone
[18:39] <Sary_> AND when I shut it down and shut it back on, I missed going into BIOS and it still went to windows 7 even though I had everything else disabled
[18:39] <qwebirc26475> anyone
[18:39] <edbian> Sary_, You told it to boot a CD drive it doesn't have!
[18:39] <marc__> edbian, wont let me do it
[18:40] <Sary_> nono, I told it to boot USB drive
[18:40] <Sary_> or "Removable Drive" in my BIOS
[18:40] <edbian> marc__, What won't let you do what?
[18:40] <edbian> Sary_, ooooo
[18:40] <edbian> Sary_, Yeah the drive is not set up correctly
[18:40] <Sary_> I have to assume from this point that its not set up correctly, but the question is how do I set it up correctly? lol
[18:41] <Sary_> the .exe install and the .iso are both on my desktop, I find them in the install prompt on there for it... it seems to be installing properly
[18:41] <Sary_> and yet it isn't working
[18:41] <Sary_> I've already tried re-installing it, what to do from here?
[18:41] <Sary_> incidentally its set as a FAT32 drive
[18:41] <marc__> edbian, gksudo gedit /etc/networking/interfaces
[18:41] <Sary_> Perhaps that should be changed?
[18:42] <edbian> marc__, there is no networking.   it's gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[18:42] <EClaesson> Does Ubuntu 10.10 use Metacity?
[18:42] <ruan> EClaesson: i think so
[18:42] <edbian> EClaesson, it is installed but compiz is turned on be default which replaces it.  so no
[18:42] <induz> hello
[18:42] <EClaesson> So Compiz is the dafault? Thank you.
[18:43] <EClaesson> *default
[18:43] <marc__> edbian, it reports auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[18:43] <induz> can some one tell me how to make ID badge ? is there a upgradeable s/w for openoffice?
[18:43] <dmytro> Bunch of standard applet indicators (hope I`m calling it properly) just vanished from my Natty 'classic' panel.  No clock, no calendar, no shutdown buttons  shows up anymore. Just keyboard and NM. Reboot dosn`t help. What should I do?
[18:44] <Sary_> edbian, did I lose ya?
[18:44] <edbian> marc__, Ok good. that file is fine.  does sudo lspci  list our interfaces?
[18:44] <edbian> Sary_, I just don't know how to fix it :(
[18:44] <ploks> Hello
[18:44] <Sary_> Damn. Alright. I'll go dig around some more. Thanks anyway.
[18:44] <edbian> Sary_, Good luck!
[18:45] <l1nuxman> anyone use acct?
[18:45] <marc__> edbian, yes it report all my devices
[18:45] <raven> how to controll rhythmbox via ssh
[18:46] <edbian> marc__, mmmm, I'm not really sure...
[18:47] <edbian> marc__, actually try this:  http://www.ubun2.com/question/573/networking_disabled_ubuntu_1004
[18:47] <neiz> I have a 10.10 install, is there an easy way to 'update' to 11.04?
[18:47] <marc__> edbian,  ok thanks
[18:48] <edbian> neiz, There will be when it comes out.  Go to system -> admin -> software sources and check the box from 'LTS releases' to 'normal' releases.  Then when it comes out use update manager
[18:50] <edbian> marc__, it worked?
[18:50] <marc__> yes i think so
[18:50] <marc__> edbian, i thinks so
[18:50] <edbian> marc__, Hurray!
[18:50] <Polah> How would I modify my hosts file to redirect a domain to a specific IP? bukkit.org is pointed to <IP_ADDRESS>, and as my DNS has not updated to point to the new IP I want to set it in my hosts file to point to <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:50] <amin_> i used the Virtual mouse for couple of days and now that I have a mouse the virtual mouse does not stop my number section (numkeys) of the keyboard doesnot work either the num key is on or off what should I do?????
[18:51] <marc__> edbian, thanks
[18:51] <edbian> marc__, no problem buddy
[18:52] <Spi_Waterwing> hm.  Anyone want to tell me why chmod and chown aren't working on some of my files?
[18:52] <edbian> Polah, At the top just add the line.  There are a couple other things there two about <IP_ADDRESS> you can put it above those
[18:52] <oCean> Polah, add a new line "ip  hostname" and save it
[18:52] <Polah> Oh, I did bukkit.org <ip>, so I should do <ip> bukkit.org?
[18:53] <Polah> edbian, oCean, thank you very much
[18:53] <edbian> Polah, no problem
[18:53] <induz> is there any s/w for ID badge making on ubuntu??
[18:54] <Vivekananda> Hello everyone .A couple of problem with my ubuntu lucid on dell inspiron 600.The asla mixer was working fine earlier along with the "PCM" button but now it does not and only the master volume works.I remember getting an error message about something like "ICH" device not working and dont know what do now
[18:54] <induz>  is there any s/w for ID badge making on ubuntu??
[18:54] <oCean> induz: no need to repeat that quickly
[18:54] <induz> there seems to be numerous on windows
[18:54] <skullboy> does doing a live install decrease the chance of success
[18:55] <EClaesson> If i installed Ubuntu with the windows installer, is it possible to resize the harddrive/partition?
[18:55] <induz> I thought its not gone so i asked it again
[18:55] <ruan> you could run one on wine
[18:55] <EClaesson> I just realized i picked a too small disk size :(
[18:55] <EClaesson> *possible without damaging my windows install
[18:57] <Spi_Waterwing> EClaesson: gparted can resize partitions; I think it throws up warnings if you can't move it
[19:00] <joe_9> Can I remove libjpeg62?
[19:00] <ruan> !info libjpeg62
[19:00] <ruan> optional.
[19:04] <astley> I am having trouble using the wireless capability on my wireless internet card, in the past i have installed the driver and it showed me the signal strength of the individual networks but did not let me log on...
[19:04] <macabre> hey all, when i hooked my laptop to my tv to use it as a monitor for some reason my x org conf file was over written, i am stuck at very low res for both my monitor and tv, and suggestions?
[19:04] <macabre> i am running 10.04 on a macbook pro 2,2
[19:04] <mbrigdan> So, can someone here explain to me the whole OpenOffice vs LibreOffice thing? Is one better than the other? Are they identical?
[19:05] <macabre> any*
[19:05] <astley> I am having trouble using the wireless capability on my wireless internet card, in the past i have installed the driver and it showed me the signal strength of the individual networks but did not let me log on, i either used the rt3090 or rt5090 driver
[19:07] <astley> thanks in advance
[19:07] <G00053> astley: i had to blacklist a driver in order to get mine to work ? what is the model number of the card ?
[19:07] <astley> how do i find that out again?
[19:07] <mandad123> hi
[19:08] <astley> G00053: how exactly, thanks btw
[19:08] <oCean> mbrigdan: that's not really an ubuntu issue. Join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[19:08] <mandad123> how could i rezise ubuntu
[19:09] <mirthman> i need help with serial port commands
[19:09] <mirthman> any one good with this?
[19:09] <G00053> well i just looked on the box because i had just bought the card, maybe have a look a any documentaion that came with your comp
[19:09] <rlankfo> a/win 35
[19:09] <G00053> then type that model number into ubuntu forums and i garuntee you'll probably find something
[19:09] <oCean> mirthman: is that an ubuntu issue?
[19:10] <mirthman> no, i just need help figuring out how to get line state
[19:10] <mcl0vin> howdy folks
[19:10] <astley> what can i type in the terminal to find the model number of my wireless card?
[19:10] <oCean> mirthman: so it is offtopic for this channel.
[19:10] <mirthman> ok
[19:10] <mandad123> how could i rezise ubuntu
[19:11] <mcl0vin> i just upgrade to ubuntu 10 , now when i start my laptop i get error in the worksapce
[19:11] <mbrigdan> oCean, Well, given that 11.04 is switching to LibreOffice, I just want to know if I should switch or stay. Will it cause me future problems if I don't switch?
[19:12] <oCean> mbrigdan: 11.04 issues are handled in #ubuntu+1, not here
[19:12] <astley> what can i type in the terminal to find the model number of my wireless card?
[19:13] <Kyle__> How do you add interface specific routes in /etc/network/interfaces?
[19:13] <induz> I am looking for a s/w to make siple ID badge card/
[19:14] <mandad123> how could i rezise ubuntu
[19:14] <Kyle__> I tried entering it for the second interface like I do the first, but then they both show up as default routes (which is bad).
[19:14] <mandad123> how could i resize ubuntu
[19:14] <oCean> astley: try lspci -nv or sudo lshw -C network
[19:14] <mcl0vin> can someone help me please
[19:14] <Kyle__> mandad123: You're looking at resizing the drive it's on.  Boot off of the cd, go into live mode, you can use gparted from there to do it nicely.
[19:14] <oCean> !please > mcl0vin
[19:15] <mandad123> just i 've instal ubuntu in win7
[19:15] <mcl0vin> oCean: got it
[19:16] <mcl0vin> i need help with my laptop, after i upgrade, i no longer get my menus in my workspace
[19:17] <neXyon> hrm, I have a really strange behaviour here... if I run "setcap 'CAP_NET_RAW,CAP_NET_ADMIN+eip' java" on my java binary, java stops working: "java: error while loading shared libraries: libjli.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" o_O anyone any clue why?
[19:18] <ruan> neXyon: looks like java isn't installed properly
[19:19] <martin__> yu
[19:19] <neXyon> ruan: it works without setting the caps...
[19:19] <SanterDT> Anybody knows how configure Hydra GTK ?
[19:19] <ruan> oh
[19:19] <G00053> astley: check this out for more info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[19:20] <G00053> there is links to how-to's for just about every card there
[19:20] <Lancelot> Problem: The su command isn't working correctly for me. I enter my password and it says authentication failure
[19:20] <G00053> lancelot try sudo
[19:20] <Jordan_U> !root | Lancelot
[19:21] <ChrisBuchholz> Hello peope. I am using the broadcom STA wireless driver, but i am getting very slow speed. Is there some other, maybe b43(22) specific driver i could try?
[19:22] <ruan> hmm
[19:22] <ruan> !broadcom
[19:22] <Lancelot> Jordan_U, ...interesting
[19:23] <Lancelot> G00053, it worked this time
[19:23] <Kyle__> How do you add interface specific routes in /etc/network/interfaces?
[19:23] <ruan> imho, these drivers should be integrated into ubuntu or a network manager. i've seen too many people with broadcom issues
[19:23] <Mcl0vin> i keep getting this error every time i restart The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_GoHome".
[19:24] <Kyle__> ruan: Yea, but I've had netbooks where the generic drivers worked, but the proprietary ones killed it.
[19:24] <Kyle__> ruan: it's not consistent enough to warrant something like that.
[19:25] <ruan> Kyle__: network drivers?
[19:25] <Mcl0vin> !OAFIID:GNOME_GoHome
[19:25] <ruan> i understand graphic drivers shouldn't be, but these are network drivers, and i havent heard of a problem from them
[19:25] <ChrisBuchholz> ruan: thanks
[19:25] <Mcl0vin> !OAFIID
[19:26] <Kyle__> ruan: broadcom network drivers.  Maybe I misread and combined some lines as they were going past.
[19:26] <Kyle__> ruan: Yup, network drivers.
[19:26] <Mcl0vin> anyone here know what could be the issue with me getting this error "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_GoHome"."
[19:26] <ruan> i've only heard positive feedback from the broadcom drivers
[19:26] <ruan> so far
[19:26] <Kyle__> ruan: The closed source onces, and the ndis drivers both can be really flaky on some hardware.
[19:27]  * Kyle__ shrugs
[19:27] <Kyle__> ruan: I lived through it though, and came across dozens of other posts from other people who were having issues with the same hardware at the time.
[19:27] <Lancelot> Jordan_U, do you know of any good tutorials on how to use the terminal?
[19:27] <Lancelot> and the shell?
[19:27] <Kyle__> The open source drivers are the best option tos start with, at least that's how I feel :)
[19:28] <Mcl0vin> The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_GoHome".
[19:29] <G00053> lancelot, me and you are in the same boat. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5004922#post5004922
[19:29] <Jordan_U> !terminal | Lancelot
[19:30] <Lancelot> awesome, thanks guys!
[19:30] <dskippy> I think I got confused with my ISOs I downloaded and might have installed the sever version. Is thee a simple way to tell? There's no X11 installed.
[19:31] <dskippy> Will apt-get install ubuntu-desktop get me to where I would be had I installed the desktop version or is there some extra stuff I should do?
[19:32] <randomuser> can someone confirm that ubuntu, by default, is not ssh ready?
[19:32] <edbian> dskippy, that's enough
[19:32] <trinikrono> randomuser: it is
[19:32] <edbian> randomuser, It can ssh to others but it is not an ssh server by default
[19:32] <ruan> randomuser: the client is ssh ready
[19:32] <ruan> randomuser: ssh server is really easy to install though
[19:33] <ChrisBuchholz> ruan: when i install the b43-fwcutter package as described, i dont get the prompt to extract and install the firmware as shown in the guide. It just installs and thats it. And it doesnt show up under "additional drivers"
[19:33] <randomuser> so i need openssh-server, got it
[19:33] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, can you reboot and pastebin the output dmesg  ?
[19:33] <edbian> randomuser, yes
[19:33] <randomuser> and the default firewall is wide open now? WTF?
[19:34] <edbian> randomuser, yep.  That's because Ubuntu is secure enough to have a wide open firewall.  Real security purists will tell you how you should never need a firewall.
[19:34] <edbian> randomuser, It's always been wide open IRRC
[19:35] <abou-mocro> hallllo allemaaal
[19:35] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: sure. I hsould say, that i am on natty, but the package also exists here.
[19:35] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, It's been there for a long time.  Since before 7.10 for sure
[19:35] <abou-mocro> hello everyone
[19:35] <Mcl0vin> anyone got any suggestion on how i could fix OAFIID:GNOME_GoHome?
[19:36] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: i willrrestart and paste dmesg
[19:36] <Mcl0vin> error when loading up
[19:36] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, I'm eagerly awaiting
[19:36] <ruan> ChrisBuchholz: just check if it works as expected when you reboot though
[19:36] <edbian> ruan, ChrisBuchholz That's probably a safe decision
[19:37] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, If it is working I do not need to see dmesg
[19:37] <Mcl0vin> i am seeking help with issue in "OAFIID:GNOME_GoHome"
[19:39] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian, ruan how would i check if it works? It doesnt appear under Additional hardware drivers. Only the broadcom STA does, which is the one i DONT wanna use beccause its damn slow
[19:39] <ruan> ChrisBuchholz: just check if its fast
[19:40] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/582608/
[19:40] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, Can you connect to a network?
[19:40] <ruan> ChrisBuchholz: after reboot
[19:40] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: yes i am connected, but that is via Broad STA driver
[19:40] <ChrisBuchholz> broadcom*
[19:40] <Chr|s_> how come sound events sound kind of distorted and scratchy? what can I do to fix this?
[19:41] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian, ruan: i dont think b43-fwcutter installs. It says on the documentation it has to extract and install the driver, but it only installs the package. Doesnt ask me about xtracting firmware and so
[19:41] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, you not not appear to be using the b43 driver.  (the fwcutter thing)
[19:41] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: yes, that is what i am saying :D
[19:41] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, It didn't load any firmware either.  dmesg would have said so
[19:41] <edbian> so we're agreed then...
[19:41] <edbian> haha
[19:41] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: but why am i not
[19:41] <Mcl0vin> no one here knows what i am talking about ?
[19:41] <ChrisBuchholz> i install b43-fwcutter, edbian, and then what?
[19:42] <edbian> can you sudo apt-get purge fwcutter   and sudo apt-get install fwcutter   and show me what is says?
[19:42] <Mcl0vin> i should ve not upgrade :(
[19:42] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: fwcutter or b43-fwcutter?
[19:42] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, This is a broadcom BCM43xx chip right?
[19:42] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: yes
[19:42] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, b43-fwcutter.  I abbreviated
[19:42] <usuario> aaaaaaaaa
[19:42] <ruan> usuario: ?
[19:42] <oarion7> hi everyone. if i missed an error message that displayed on boot time before x and gnome started, is there a way i can view from the terminal all the information that came up on the screen as ubuntu was loading?
[19:42] <usuario> emmmmm
[19:43] <ruan> oarion7: the logs?
[19:43] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/582612/
[19:43] <ruan> i have no idea if they log at boot time though
[19:44] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: oh, its in danish btw :D
[19:44] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, Did you purge first?  (I don't speak... german??)
[19:44] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: yes i did purge first
[19:44] <ruan> i can slightly comprehend it
[19:44] <ChrisBuchholz> but it doesnt do anything other than that. Not the first time, second or third time
[19:45] <G00053> oarion7 try /var/log/boot.log and /var/log/messages
[19:45] <oarion7> G00053 and ruan, thanks
[19:45] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, It should have.  Is there an fwcutter?
[19:45] <edbian> What is the chipset exactly so I can google it?
[19:45] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: bcm4322
 randomuser, yep.  That's because Ubuntu is secure enough to have a wide open firewall.  Real security purists will tell you how you should never need a firewall
[19:46] <randomuser> is this a joke?
[19:46] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: an fwcutter?
[19:46] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, package?  a fwcutter besides b43-fwcutter
[19:46] <edbian> randomuser, no
[19:46] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: no i dont think so. Not installed anyways
[19:46] <edbian> randomuser, I am absolutely serious.
[19:47] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, Usually it outputs stuff about getting the firmware as well.
[19:47] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: and not when i search either
[19:47] <uofm49426> does anyone know if ipw2200 driver is patch already
[19:47] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: yes, the documentation says so, but it doesnt for me
[19:47] <uofm49426> injection patch
[19:47] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, what does sudo lspci -k  say about things.  It should list the driver you are using and the other drivers avialable on the system.
[19:47] <clu3> My box is responding very slowly. I am running only one instance of eclipse, one instance of skype, yet i hvae about 20+ eclipse processes and 10 skype processes. Is this normal?
[19:48] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: you want the output?
[19:48] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, sure
[19:48] <anto> k pasa
[19:48] <th0r> clu3: close them both and then, in a terminal, type 'killall skype'....same for eclipse
[19:48] <ruan> clu3: how much ram, and how much swap total/in use?
[19:48] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, Easier than you having to type it I think
[19:48] <th0r> clu3: then start them up again
[19:48] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/582617/
[19:48] <anto> soy español
[19:48] <randomuser> edbian, so there's no reason that most other distros secure ports by default, and no vulnerabilities in any software?  it's ok for your average joe to run a free-access-to-anon smbd server (which i think is default as well) and open it to the internet?
[19:49] <ruan> clu3: or are those processes slowing the computer?
[19:49] <anto> fuck you
[19:49] <ruan> !language | anto
[19:49] <xangua> !ops | anto
[19:49] <ATDPRHS> Hello everyone, I have a problem with my Ubuntu, is anyone here can support me?
[19:49] <anto> jhgfd3456yui
[19:49] <Flannel> anto: Please mind your language.  This channel is an english channel.
[19:50] <edbian> ChrisBuchholz, perhaps you should remove the package for the driver you don't wnat to use
[19:50] <Vivekananda> Hello everyone .A couple of problem with my ubuntu lucid on dell inspiron 600.The asla mixer was working fine earlier along with the "PCM" button but now it does not and only the master volume works.I remember getting an error message about something like "ICH" device not working and dont know what do now
[19:50] <ChrisBuchholz> edbian: okay, i will try that later. Have to go now. Thank you so far
[19:50] <clu3> ruan, i'm not sure, even i have now 15 firefox processes  as well. And i am basically running only those 3 apps
[19:51] <edbian> randomuser, Securing ports makes things 'more secure' but if you have secure software on the system it doesn't matter if outside connections are made to it.  If nothing is listening on a port then that port is secure anyway.  There is no reason to block it.  Furthermore, firewalls break the layering of the Internet.  Middleboxes are not supposed to read the ports of packets.  Just forward them.
[19:51] <ruan> clu3: you can check up on them with system monitor
[19:51] <ruan> or top
[19:51] <edbian> randomuser, This is a controversial topic.  Many people disagree on it.
[19:51] <clu3> that's how i found out, i used top
[19:51] <ATDPRHS> Umm
[19:51] <clu3> htop actually
[19:51] <ATDPRHS> anyone here can support me or direct me to the correct channel for Ubuntu help & Support?
[19:52] <edbian> randomuser, Additionally most people have a router these days that does NAT which is affectively firewalling.
[19:52] <ruan> ATDPRHS: this is the ubuntu help/support channel
[19:52] <Flannel> ATDPRHS: This is the right channel.  Best way to get help is to just ask your question, and someone will chime in if they know the answer.
[19:52] <ATDPRHS> uumm
[19:52] <ATDPRHS> okayz
[19:52] <ATDPRHS> thank you Flannel
[19:53] <edbian> randomuser, Security and usability are often at opposing sides of an issue.  A firewall decreases usability (because it often annoying blocks traffic from newly installed apps) so many people dislike them.  They are widely used though.
[19:53] <ATDPRHS> well, when I turn on Ubuntu, it doesn't allow me to type in my password
[19:53] <randomuser> edbian, so if my 'middlebox' is routing traffic to my lan, and I have one box running vsftpd and one running httpd, you're saying packet routing by port is undesirable?
[19:53] <ATDPRHS> I can't even give me the username password text boxes for me to type anything
[19:53] <ATDPRHS> What do I do?
[19:54] <ATDPRHS> 8-)
[19:54] <ruan> hmmm.
[19:54] <edbian> randomuser, Packet routing by port is NAT.  Which also is not pure or in accordance with the layering of the Internet.  However it is common because it helps alleviate the IPv4 space problem and it is convenient, and 'more secure' according to some.
[19:54] <randomuser> edbian, if you want to say that it's turned off to save the end users the hassle of learning what i firewall does, that's fine.  I don't agree with it, but the reasonig is valid.  But don't tell me that anything is absolutely secure
[19:55] <randomuser> and dont tell me incoming traffic is NAT routed, either.
[19:55] <ruan> key combo for an onscreen keyboard, perhaps?
[19:55] <edbian> randomuser, If you have a router incoming traffic is NAT routed.
[19:55] <edbian> randomuser, The system is secure enough that a firewall is not necessary.
[19:56] <G00053> this suit is black.... NAT
[19:56] <edbian> randomuser, security is a matter of opinion.  So some people want more, some people want less.  No natter what the Ubuntu devs do someone will disagree with it.
[19:56] <astley> I am having trouble using the wireless capability on my wireless internet card, in the past i have installed the driver and it showed me the signal strength of the individual networks but did not let me log on, i either used the rt3090 or rt5090 driver
[19:56] <valan> no system is secure enough
[19:56] <edbian> randomuser, see, there are people like valan in the world.
[19:56] <Starminn> valan: Turn it off and unplug it. That's a secure system.
[19:56] <edbian> valan, no offense
[19:57] <G00053> astley , have you managed to figure out the model of the card yet
[19:57] <valan> Starminn your hard drive may still be physically unsecure
[19:57] <Starminn> valan: No, because I'm using it to sharpen my tools.
[19:57] <Frenky> Hello. When I try to set up a new VPN connection my only option is PPTP, what do I have to install to have other options (L2TP etc)?
[19:57] <randomuser> edbian, so if i were to point my browser at <IP_ADDRESS>; NAT would allow the router ro automagickally know which box behind the gateway i was looking for?
[19:57] <valan> Starminn good for you
[19:58] <Guest86001> hello
[19:58] <gaymann> I want to use 1280x960. The option is not available under Monitor Preferences, I can't do 'xrandr -s 1280x960' and I can't find the xorg.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf but I did find an example xorg.conf (I forgot where it is).. I just want to use the superior 1280x960 resolution. 1280x1024 is rong aspect ratio
[19:58] <Guest86001> !ubottu
[19:58] <th0r> edbian: can I give you a hand digging that hole deeper?
[19:58] <edbian> randomuser, If you point to <IP_ADDRESS> that is either another machine or a router.  The router will say port 80?  over here -> <IP_ADDRESS> (or some address)
[19:58] <Starminn> valan: http://media.techeblog.com/images/weird-fixes.jpg
[19:58] <edbian> th0r, Sure :)
[19:58] <Guest86001> How can I make sshd to start on boot?
[19:58]  * Starminn Okay, I'll go away now. Sorry guys
[19:59] <edbian> Guest86001, Install openssh-server and it will start on boot automatically
[19:59] <Polah> How can I delete my chat logs from Empathy?
[19:59] <Guest86001> edbian: it didnt that's why I am here (ubuntu.server)
[19:59] <edbian> Starminn, I have to do that twice a week!
[19:59] <valan> nat is great, but it's not security
[19:59] <edbian> Guest86001, does this start it: sudo service ssh start
[19:59] <Starminn> edbian: lol
[20:00] <skullboy> is ubuntu ultimate edition just an over packed version of ubuntu or are most of the apps convenient
[20:00] <Starminn> Polah: Probably in a hdiden folder in your home directory.
[20:00] <dougl> is there a data base of software I have installed that I can export list and use to config other 10.10 install?
[20:00] <xangua> skullboy: ubuntu ultimate is not supported here
[20:00] <red2kic> skullboy: Ultimate Garbage.
[20:00] <randomuser> edbian, the router will redirect there because you told it to; routing of return packets from a locally initated request is handled in NAT tables
[20:00] <Starminn> Polah: I use Pidgin and mine are in /home/MyUser/.purple/logs/ and so on so forth
[20:00] <edbian> valan, If port forwarding is all turned off it is effectively an incoming router firewall.
[20:00] <randomuser> ...if you'll forgive the redundancy
[20:00] <xangua> dougl you can export a list of installed packages with synaptic
[20:00] <valan> edbian but i thought you said we don't need firewalls?
[20:01] <A[p][s][995]> [S]
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[20:01] <A[p][s][995]> [A]
[20:01] <Polah> Starminn: I figured that much, but can't find it. I saw .mission-control and removed that, and there's some posts about ./local/share/Empathy but that doesn't exist
[20:01] <skullboy> does doing a live install decrease the chance of success
[20:01] <dougl> xangua, yeah I thot you could - looking at that now, thank you... any pointers?
[20:01] <edbian> randomuser, the destination router will redirect packets because of the packet's port number.
[20:02] <edbian> randomuser, what you said about return packets it true
[20:02] <edbian> valan, :)
[20:02] <skullboy> does doing a live install decrease the chance of success
[20:02] <Starminn> Polah: Do you have it set to store chat logs?
[20:02] <edbian> skullboy, success of what?
[20:02] <niluu> hi
[20:02] <niluu> anyone in india?
[20:03] <skullboy> edbian: installation
[20:03] <th0r> niluu: I am sure someone is in india
[20:03] <Polah> Starminn: It stores them; I can look at them through Empathy
[20:03] <valan> if you maintain very tight and strict control over your system, a firewall probably isn't necessary
[20:03] <valan> but unless you're doing realtime, 24 hour monitoring, a firewall is probably required
[20:03] <edbian> skullboy, It is any worse than any other method.  Easiest in my opinion
[20:03] <valan> on any production system
[20:03] <Starminn> Polah:  ~/.gnome2/empathy/logs
[20:03] <niluu> just installed ubuntu & xchat
[20:03] <edbian> valan, opinion
[20:03] <valan> of course
[20:04] <valan> s/a firewall/a properly configured and maintained firewall/
[20:04] <edbian> valan, of course we assume it's configured properly
[20:04] <valan> assumption will lead to a compromise
[20:05] <valan> i work in information assurance and communications security, forgive me if i give more credit to the crackers than most do
[20:05] <Starminn> Polah: The two places people point to are ~/.gnome2/Empathy/logs && ~/.local/share/Empathy/logs
[20:06] <dougl> how do I export a list of installed packages from synaptic?
[20:06] <randomuser> edbian, the fact that NAT tables work so well is a motivator to have a secure-ish firewall by default; the average end user wont notice it becase of the ESTABLISHED,RELATED rule
[20:07] <edbian> randomuser, the average user will have no idea no matter what we do
[20:08] <Kyle__> If you have nothing listening by default, or only secure services listening (ie ssh), the firewall may not slow anything down, but it is kindof supurfulous
[20:08] <valan> the average user is the people who need to be protected
[20:09] <G00053> dougl try dpkg -l > text.txt
[20:09] <Guest86001> changed the port and it's working again
[20:09] <G00053> text.txt being the file you exported to
[20:09] <Polah> Starminn, neither of those exist for me
[20:09] <valan> Kyle__ i don't know anybody who runs a default install
[20:09] <clu3> i'm not sure why the package consolekit is installed in my box, but its process /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon is spawning about 50 of them. Any advice what is this package? From the apt-cache show: framework for defining and tracking users, sessions and seats
[20:09] <clu3>  ConsoleKit is a system daemon for tracking what users are logged into the system and how they interact with the computer (e.g. which keyboard and mouse they use)
[20:10] <clu3> is it essential? can i remove it?
[20:10] <ruan> !info consolekit
[20:10] <Kyle__> valan: Point taken.  But I did run a pool of guest-only machines with a very-nearly-default install for public internet usage for years.
[20:10] <Kyle__> :)
[20:10] <ruan> clu3: not required. you can try removing it
[20:11] <gregd> hi everyone, I have an fstab question for you all.  I have a version of ubuntu I am running from virtual box.  I have it all set up and I have a share folder.  The problem I am having is the permissions of the share folder mount.  It is mounting with root as the owner.  I am pretty sure I have the right uid and gid numbers right.  Here is my fstab: UbuntuShare     /home/user/ShareFolder      vboxsf    auto
[20:11] <gregd> defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=006  0  0
[20:11] <Falst> I seem to be having some troubles with Grub, in that it no longer loads at all on boot
[20:11] <clu3> ruan, thanks
[20:11] <valan> Kyle__ also, many people won't realize it if/when a package they install, whether on purpose or inadvertently, opens a port and listens for external connections
[20:12] <Starminn> Polah: Not usre.
[20:13] <rblst> hello; i am using lucid 10.04.2 lts with the latest skype (<IP_ADDRESS>); ringing works fine but no voice is audible when making the test call; any suggestions please?
[20:13] <Kyle__> valan: True.  But there you could make the argument about default configs needing to be more secure.
[20:13] <clu3> ruan, is there a way to find out which packages depend on consolekit? I wanna find out why it's installed in my box
[20:13] <valan> Kyle__ i would also make the argument about a default firewall needing to drop all new external connections
[20:14] <LjL> clu3: apt-cache rdepends consolekit
[20:14] <valan> if the user wants to run an service open to the world, they should manually open the firewall to do so
[20:15] <clu3> thanks LjL , interesting, lots of looking important packages depend on it, uhm..(gnome-power-manager, gnome-bluetooth...)
[20:15] <valan> but whatever, the distro devs will do what they want, i only came in here because someone pointed me to a discussion i thought interesting
[20:15] <clu3> even nautilus
[20:15] <Kyle__> valan: And as I speak I'm being bitten by a stupid bot trying to get into my home machine... it can't get in, but has used up all my login attempts and I've got to wait for sshd to play nice again.
[20:16] <killown> where is the alsaconf?
[20:16] <valan> Kyle__ nobody said security was easy
[20:16] <killown> my card was not detected, so its was easy when had alsaconf to set it up
[20:16] <Kyle__> valan: True that.
[20:16] <valan> and if it is, you've either been doing it for a long time and have lots of experience, or you're not secure
[20:16] <Kyle__> Looks like I should have remembered to bring my key with me from home.
[20:17] <Kyle__> valan: Real security is easy, unplug.  Real security with real flexibility, that's the trick.
[20:17] <Kyle__> ;)
[20:17] <valan> even unplugging from the net isn't secure
[20:17] <valan> still have physical security to worry about
[20:18] <killown> why ubuntu has no alsaconf?
[20:18] <clu3> people, is there a method to detect a virus in a ubuntu box? Any guidelines? I think my comp is infected. Each application i run, i see 10+ processes for it
[20:18] <Kyle__> Yea, but if it gets to that point with your home machines, you're screwed.    Especially with executive's laptops.
[20:18] <TomV-415> I'm wondering if I have a problem with my boot config.  I just got updated to the latest kernel 2.6.32-30?  But uname -a after reboot shows 2.6.32-24.  Is my update failing to set me to the latest kernel?
[20:18] <guntbert> valan:  Kyle__ : back to the topic please :-)
[20:18] <oneliner> conercning file permision with the http server, i was wondering if making the server run as www-data and then set chmod as www-data for groups of file folder and lastly adding www-data the the login user groups
[20:18] <Falst> anybody know why Grub wouldn't load at all?
[20:19] <Kyle__> guntbert: Sorry.
[20:19] <Guest86001> problem was listenaddres
[20:19] <Guest86001> ss
[20:19] <valan> Falst define "wouldn't load at all"
[20:19] <Falst> valan: on boot, it stops before where the grub menu would usually load
[20:19] <valan> Falst does the system not boot? does it skip the menu?
[20:19] <Falst> it doesn't boot at all
[20:20] <Falst> I'm currently on a LiveCD
[20:20] <Kyle__> clu3: Lookup some rootkit detection stuff.  A linux virus in the wild isn't impossible, but infeasable.  A rootkit is probably what you have, if you have anything actually wrong at all :)
[20:20] <valan> Falst reinstall grub, probably to the mbr of the first hard drive
[20:20] <fxhp> How does ubuntu get weather info?
[20:20] <fxhp> I just set my location
[20:20] <clu3> Kyle__, thanks
[20:20] <Kyle__> fxhp: depends on the app or widget.
[20:20] <fxhp> The built in time
[20:20] <fxhp> I set my location there
[20:21] <rats_> Talking about rootkits does chkroot work
[20:21] <valan> rats_ it works for rootkits that it can detect
[20:21] <valan> rats_ it can't possibly be 100% accurate
[20:21] <rats_> ok that makes sence
[20:22] <Kyle__> fxhp: Not positive myself, I glanced through the help page and didn't see it.
[20:22] <rblst> hello; i am using lucid 10.04.2 lts with the latest skype (<IP_ADDRESS>); ringing works fine but no voice is audible when making the test call; any suggestions please?
[20:22] <fxhp> Well its working REALLY well
[20:22] <fxhp> : )
[20:22] <sahaquiel> my netbook can't seem to be able to boot the 11.04 alpha 3 image from usb. burned the image with unetbootin from windows & linux on 2 different machines - doesn't work. The included usb-creator.exe doesn't even let me select the iso. Is there a way to boot the usb from a grub entry? (I have ubuntu installed already)
[20:23] <randomuser> Kyle__, fkwknop is awesome
[20:23] <xangua> !natty | sahaquiel
[20:23] <Kyle__> randomuser: port knocking?  Sweet.
[20:24] <randomuser> Kyle__, the best part is that it drops packets on both the knock port and the open port, even while listening for the knock; nmap doesn't see shit
[20:24] <sahaquiel> xangua: thanks, but this is not a natty specific problem, it's a problem of the tools that make the ubuntu isos bootable on usb.  I coudn't boot the 10.10 iso as well
[20:26] <randomuser> you'd open --p tcp --d-port 22 just long enough to type in your password, then it's established and the rule that let you in is wiped
[20:26] <Emanon> So is it wise to tell any program that uses apt-get to use apt-fast instead?
[20:26] <Kyle__> randomuser: Hum.  I think in my setup it may still show up though, just not answer.  But I'd have to dig through the apple-airport settings to be sure.
[20:26] <guntbert> sahaquiel: dod you make certain that the iso wasn't corrupted?
[20:26] <randomuser> sahaquiel, look at unetbootin to make a usb drive
[20:26] <cosmo> I am following the directions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1681577 to hopefully fix my alsa driver but when I run sudo ./AlsaUpgrade-1.0.24-2.sh -c  it errors out saying make[4]: *** [/opt/Alsa-1.0.24/alsa-driver-1.0.24/pci/ca0106/ca0106_proc.o] Error 1
[20:26] <cosmo> make[3]: *** [/opt/Alsa-1.0.24/alsa-driver-1.0.24/pci/ca0106] Error 2
[20:26] <cosmo> make[2]: *** [/opt/Alsa-1.0.24/alsa-driver-1.0.24/pci] Error 2
[20:26] <cosmo> make[1]: *** [_module_/opt/Alsa-1.0.24/alsa-driver-1.0.24] Error 2
[20:26] <cosmo> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic'
[20:26] <FloodBot2> cosmo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:27] <cosmo> make: *** [compile] Error 2
[20:27] <sahaquiel> randomuser: I did, didn't work. I will try to write the syslinux whatever-thing to the usb. but I will continue asking in #ubuntu+1
[20:27] <clu3> is there a way to list all the installed packages chronologically?
[20:28] <valan> sahaquiel some hardware is picky about the iso it can boot
[20:28] <Emanon> randomuser: you try http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ yet?
[20:28] <randomuser> sahaquiel, there's also a fedora tool that i think is live2usb or iso2usb.... look at the fedora docs on doing an install and you should find it fairly quickly
[20:28] <Emanon> It's fairly nice to use that from ubuntu.
[20:28] <valan> sahaquiel example, i have a box that will boot debian and ubuntu isos but not fedora or opensuse, even though every other box i have boots them all just fine, from the same medium
[20:29] <sahaquiel> valan: I know, i was able to boot only ubuntu 10.04, no other ubuntu and no arch
[20:29] <randomuser> Emanon, i use something like that, yeah
[20:29] <dannyd_> how  do i change my language settings from firefox
[20:29] <xangua> edit>addons>language dannyd_
[20:30] <dannyd_> i founnd instructions on the net, but there are no screen shots....the firefox i downloaded from mint repositories is in some other language
[20:30] <xangua> dannyd_: mint is not supported here
[20:30] <IdleOne> !mintsupport
[20:30] <Jordan_U> sahaquiel: You can boot the iso via grub by adding a menu entry for it to /etc/grub.d/40_custom then running "sudo update-grub". A template for the entry you need to add is here: http://www.supergrubdisk.org/wiki/Loopback.cfg#How_do_you_use_a_loopback.cfg_to_boot_an_iso.3F
[20:31] <dannyd_> does Kies mean language in some language?
[20:31] <IdleOne> dannyd_: ask the mint channel in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[20:32] <dannyd_> ok will do
[20:33] <lifestream> Hi, if I'm using USB mic (listed as a separate card in alsamixer) then do I disable (press space) Capture in the HDA card in alsamixer?
[20:34] <lifestream> I have wasted atleast 70+ hours of my life (excluding sleep!) trying to get microphone to work LOL!
[20:35] <red2kic> lifestream: "M" to unmute/mute. Unsure abuot spacebar.
[20:35] <lifestream> red2kic: yes on the 00/MM you hit M, but on the Capture, you hit space (L R capture / --- )
[20:36] <red2kic> lifestream: You might want to try alsa or pulseaudio channel.
[20:36] <kaesar> holaaaa
[20:36] <lifestream> pulseaudio only has speaker and capture.  HDA Intel (alsa) has all the options
[20:36] <xBlueprint> Yo
[20:37] <kaesar> holaaa soy nuevo aqui
[20:37] <lifestream> !es
[20:37] <lifestream> :)
[20:37] <phoenixsampras> Kaesar we dont speak arabic
[20:38] <xBlueprint> thats spanish phoenixsampras
[20:38] <xBlueprint> lol
[20:38] <IdleOne> phoenixsampras: clearly you don't speak arabic
[20:38] <Polah> That's not arabic
[20:38] <Polah> !es | kaesar
[20:39] <xBlueprint> how is everyone doing
[20:40] <cosmo> I am following the directions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1681577 to hopefully fix my alsa driver but when I run sudo ./AlsaUpgrade-1.0.24-2.sh -c  it errors out giving this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/582632/
[20:41] <xBlueprint> cosmo whats are you trying to fix
[20:41] <xBlueprint> cosmo,
[20:41] <lloowen__> Hi all :) I'm trying to install vmware-server on Ubuntu and I get this "What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]"  I just hit enter assuming it is the correct location but apparently it is not. Does anyone know what is the direcotry location for Ubuntu? Thanks.
[20:41] <owen1> is there a reason why ubuntu don't require a password for root account? how do i login as root? su - ask for a pass.
[20:41] <cosmo> xBlueprint, my alsa I have no sound
[20:41] <ubuntu> !grub
[20:42] <xBlueprint> cosmo,  hold up ill link you to something that helped me
[20:42] <lifestream> !root | owen1
[20:42] <guntbert> lloowen__: you have to install them, best install dkms, that should pull in everything needed
[20:42] <xBlueprint> cosmo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1641931
[20:42] <xBlueprint> go there
[20:42] <lloowen__> guntbert: Thanks
[20:42] <cosmo> xBlueprint,  I was trying to get my mic working in wine so I searched on google and found similar problems and a solution was to install the linux drivers from realtek (my sound card maker) so I followed those instructions and that caused me to lose all sound so I tried removing and purging alsa-base and such and reinstalling but that didnt fix it and then I found that link, have been trying to fix this for at least 6 hours
[20:43] <lifestream> looks like I could make a living sellling commas
[20:43] <cosmo> lifestream, frustration stole them all
[20:44] <lifestream> hehehe
[20:44] <Speedfx> is there a way too boot Ubuntu but disabling the graphics drivers; I just installed a new driver for my card trough ubuntu but it doesn't work.
[20:44] <lloowen__> guntbert: Apparently I have dkms already installed
[20:44] <Speedfx> or something like restore a previous version of ubuntu?
[20:44] <xBlueprint> cosmo, I started a new chat with you
[20:45] <Yendor> Hi folks.  Anyone able to help me fix my Ubuntu server after grub got hosed upgrading from Jaunty to Karmic?
[20:45] <lifestream> cosmo:  also install alsa-utils , and make sure to go to alsamixer and unmute (M key)
[20:45] <smw> Speedfx, is it an nvidia card?
[20:45] <Speedfx> yea
[20:45] <xBlueprint> cosmo, go to the pirvate chat
[20:45] <Speedfx> it worked fine with no drivers installed
[20:45] <Yendor> Currently getting "error 15", but I might've gotten at least one step past that...
[20:46] <guntbert> lloowen__: on my system /usr/src/linux  doesn't exist
[20:46] <smw> Speedfx, there is probably a code to use with grub to force a standard driver.
[20:46] <smw> Speedfx, or you can boot into text mode and uninstall with aptget
[20:47] <julian_> hey
[20:47] <xBlueprint> sup
[20:47] <guntbert> lloowen__: look at ls -l /usr/src
[20:47] <Speedfx> what would the aptget command be then? I'm still new to Ubuntu and well all the commands
[20:47] <lloowen__> guntbert: OK I'll take a look. Thanks
[20:47] <xBlueprint> apt-get is used to install things
[20:47] <Yendor> Speedfx: apt-get remove package_name
[20:47] <Speedfx> yea I know
[20:48] <xBlueprint> you can install or remove things with apt-get
[20:48] <guntbert> lloowen__: use the one that matches your running kernel
[20:48] <x_dimitri> I don't see LVM anywhere in the Lucid setup. Am I overlooking something?
[20:48] <Speedfx> how can I get a list of packages in text mode?
[20:48] <smw> Speedfx, try booting with adding xforcevesa to the grub line
[20:48] <Yendor> Speedfx: If you want to remove all the config files that go with the package as well, then: apt-get remove --purge package_name
[20:48] <smw> Speedfx, you can probably do sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[20:48] <Yendor> Speedfx: dpkg -l  (that's an "ell")
[20:49] <Speedfx> ah
[20:49] <Speedfx> thanks
[20:49] <smw> Speedfx, first try xforcevesa
[20:49] <Speedfx> first in ubuntu, really liked it \o/
[20:49] <Speedfx> will do smw
[20:49] <Speedfx> first time*
[20:49] <Yendor> Anyone able to assist with a grub repair?
[20:49] <smw> Speedfx, do you know how to add to the grub line at boot?
[20:49] <x_dimitri> does anyone know why there is not LVM options in the Lucid installer?
[20:49] <Speedfx> press e
[20:49] <Speedfx> but where would I add it
[20:50] <smw> Yendor, can you boot ubuntu?
[20:50] <Speedfx> after quiet splash?
[20:50] <smw> Speedfx, yes
[20:50] <Speedfx> k thanks
[20:50] <Yendor> smw: No.  Getting "error 15" upon trying to boot.  Attempted upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic last night hosed the system.
[20:51] <smw> Yendor, grub is saying "Error 15" and nothing else?
[20:51] <Yendor> smw: The system has one regular HD and one raid drive md0
[20:51] <Yendor> smw: What's the full error.....Error 15: file not found, I believe.
[20:51] <Yendor> But beyond that....Correct.  Nothing else.
[20:52] <smw> Yendor, does it say what file was not found?
[20:52] <Yendor> It does not
[20:52] <smw> Yendor, and it says this before showing any menus?
[20:52] <Yendor> smw: Correct
[20:52] <angel_> newbie
[20:52] <boo_> May I ask a question here ... newbe
[20:52] <smw> !ask | boo_
[20:53] <Yendor> smw: I can get to a grub menu, and I can edit it...
[20:53] <guntbert> x_dimitri: use the !alternate CD for that
[20:53] <xBlueprint> boo_, what do you need
[20:53] <x_dimitri> guntbert:ok. thanks
[20:53] <mindspider> Hi
[20:53] <Yendor> smw: Not a new user here; have been using Ubuntu for 8 years or so.  Just not good at grub repairs.
[20:53] <guntbert> x_dimitri: no problem :)
[20:53] <mindspider> I'm looking for help making Oblivion work under wine on Ubuntu 10.10
[20:53] <nellie> anyone ever have ther mouse turn into a one inch by one inch square during install and stay that way after reboot?   I cant get it to change back even after messing with other mouse pointers.  anyone know how to fix?
[20:54] <Yendor> smw: "find /grub/stage1" returns "hd0,0"
[20:54] <boo_> Kool,  I am trying to install my ubuntu on a home network but it keeps asking for a server??  I just whant to see the other computers on my network
[20:54] <smw> Yendor, I am trying to figure out what file is not found...
[20:55] <Yendor> smw: Well...Editing the grub menu manually, I changed it from /boot/vmlinuz to just /vmlinuz.  It got a bit further.
[20:55] <mindspider> Oblivion crashes as soon as a click yes to start a new game. I tried running it with wineconsole and have the output ready to paste if someone can help.
[20:55] <drc> mindspider: have you searched winehq?
[20:55] <mindspider> Yup
[20:55] <Yendor> smw: Then it failed, I believe, because of my raid drive.
[20:55] <TomV-415> boo_: Is that a dns server ot
[20:55] <TomV-415> boo_: Is that a dns server it's asking for?
[20:55] <mindspider> And also the elder scrolls wiki's section on running under linux.
[20:55] <Yendor> smw: (Insert full vmlinuz-version...)
[20:55] <smw> Yendor, ok
[20:55] <mindspider> One person had the same problem as me, but their solution didn't fix it for me.
[20:56] <Yendor> smw: Currently sitting at an (initramfs) prompt
[20:56] <smw> Yendor, is there a reason not to reinstall?
[20:56] <boo_>  I don't know it's all automatic on windows but in Ubuntu it keeps insisting for a share list on my server?
[20:56] <smw> Yendor, I am not very good with grub either.
[20:56] <Yendor> smw: I believe that's the route I'm going to eventually take, because what prompted me to upgrade is that my system was the victim of a 2010-Dec-10 exploit in exim.
[20:56] <smw> boo_, what is it?
[20:57] <boo_> What do you mean?
[20:57] <xBlueprint> How do i install the ubuntu software center?
[20:57] <Yendor> smw: But I do not have backups for the system and I would like to ensure that all my data will be safe by transferring it across my network to my Mac temporarily.
[20:57] <smw> boo_, "it keeps insisting for a share server"
[20:57] <smw> Yendor, a bootable disk can do that easily.
[20:58] <Jordan_U> xBlueprint: It should be installed by default. If not you can install it using apt-get.
[20:58] <xBlueprint> lol i was joking
[20:58] <drc> mindspider: I'd ask in #winehq, you'd probably get more help there
[20:58] <mindspider> Same IRC server?
[20:58] <Yendor> smw: I downloaded the Ubuntu 10.10 CD today, but I don't think that's a LiveCD...  Unless I'm missing something blindingly obvious.
[20:58] <drc> mindspider: yes
[20:58] <mindspider> Thanks for the help then, drc.
[20:59] <smw> Yendor, is it the server or desktop one?
[20:59] <Yendor> smw: server
[20:59] <smw> Yendor, you need to download knoppix, dsl, the desktop cd, or somethign else.
[20:59] <Yendor> smw: Not to say that I couldn't go grab the desktop one and burn that if that's what I need.
[20:59] <Yendor> smw: Also grabbed Knoppix this morning.  1/30/11 release.
[20:59] <x_dimitri1> .
[21:00] <smw> Yendor, just boot up knoppix and you can move files to another computer.
[21:00] <boo_> I can ping another  box but I can't get network to see it
[21:00] <drc> mindspider: for what it's worth, Oblivion has worked perfectly for me under wine x.y.z, badly under wine x.y.z+1, not at all under wine x.y.z+2 and perfectly again under wine x.y.z+3...one never knows
[21:01] <Yendor> smw: I'll go boot knoppix now...Hopefully it'll be able to figure out my raid drive.
[21:01] <Yendor> smw: Not very hopeful
[21:01] <smw> boo_, boo_, ok lets step back. What is it you want to accomplish?
[21:01] <smw> boo_, don't say you want to put it on the network. Be specific.
[21:02] <Mcl0vin> hello everyone
[21:02] <smw> hi Mcl0vin
[21:02] <|Bboy|> Greetings. can someone recommend a wireless usb adapter that works well with ubuntu , i had the wg11 v3 from netgear and it kept disconnecting every few minutes
[21:03] <Mcl0vin> i keep getting gnome_home error
[21:03] <smw> Mcl0vin, please give the full problem. Explain what you are doing, what you see, and what the exact error is.
[21:04] <boo_> I am running a home network, Ubunto can see the internet but fails to see any of the other "window" units on my network.  When I go to any of the network setup windows it simple says it can't moung my netework and says that it can't retrieve any share list from my server.  I  don't think I have any acting server, it's sortal like a peer to peer.
[21:04] <boo_> I am simple trying to connect to the network to see the other boxs for file sharing etc..
[21:05] <smw> boo_, open the file manager, type ctrl+l, and type in smb:/
[21:05] <smw> boo_, what happens?