[14:58] <edbian> I would go g.  Nobody uses N
[14:58] <MagicJ> SirShmoopy:  more recently the n - but used to be the B
[14:58] <dark2> dr_Willis so? It shows in the Java control panel
[14:59] <MagicJ> SirShmoopy:  I men g
[14:59] <andantino> just wondering, what is a good program for burning ISOs. Something that will allow to burn at 4x - 8x
[14:59] <ugarit> llutz you typed sudo mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/08_os-prober && sudo update-grub, what does 08 represent?
[14:59] <edbian> andantino: linux?  k3b is great.  I like brasero
[14:59] <SirShmoopy> well i have an n router that i havent myself tried hooking up, will be getting around to it at some point
[14:59] <dr_Willis> ugarit:  oeswe
[14:59] <MagicJ> edbian:  and SirShmoopy  I do not agree that noone uses n - I do and it is a lot faster and more to the point more reliable in an environment where there are other networks
[14:59] <andantino> yeah im using ubuntu....i think brasero only allows as low as 10x
[14:59] <dr_Willis> ugarit:  order they appear
[15:00] <llutz> ugarit: it changes the order those scripts are called.
[15:00] <andantino> though i suppose 10x should be safe enough
[15:00] <edbian> andantino: Burning a DVD or a CD?
[15:00] <andantino> cd
[15:00] <edbian> andantino: 10x is really slow then.
[15:00] <andantino> i want to nab zenwalk for an older pc
[15:00] <llutz> ugarit: "08" because it has to be run before "10_linux" to have the windows-entry in front
[15:00] <llutz> first*
[15:01] <erix> Hi all, I install Squirrel mail server.   This channel is for Ubuntu support ony.
[15:02] <dark2> So what am I supposed to do here?
[15:02]  * andantino gives groups hugs to the ever-helpful linux people
[15:03] <llutz> eregon: "sudo lsof -i :993" to check if your imap-server listens
[15:04] <llutz> grrr left
[15:04] <edbian> grrrr-reat!  (frosted flakes)
[15:04] <jemmeli> Hello, I've been googling for more than an hour to fix my atheros wifi driver with no luck. can anyone help or direct me please? (  02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)  )
[15:05] <edbian> jemmeli: I can help.  What driver are you using right now?  sudo lspci -k  can tell you
[15:06] <jemmeli> I an using ath5k
[15:06] <edbian> jemmeli: and it doesn't work?
[15:06] <balaji_> ubottu: what is meant by upstart job? and what i have to do now to enable/disable. do i have to change in 'S'column?
[15:06] <jemmeli> but I also tried ath-pci and compiled madwifi from svn
[15:06] <jemmeli> no it doesn't work edbian
[15:07] <jemmeli> edbian, it sais : Kernel driver in use: ath5k	Kernel modules: ath_pci, ath5k
[15:07] <jemmeli> does thta mean both modules are loaded ?
[15:07] <edbian> jemmeli: can you restart and show me the output of dmesg?  (I need a fresh restart with no driver mangling to make sense of dmesg
[15:07] <jemmeli> ok
[15:07] <jemmeli> just a minute
[15:07] <edbian> jemmeli: the kernel modules line lists modules that are on the system in totoal.  the driver in use is what is actually being used
[15:08] <Bisu[Shield]> im on ubuntu, im trying to setup ssl on apache2 and keep getting an error when apache tries to start "[warn] RSA server certificate CommonName (CN) `localhost' does NOT match server name!?" how do i determine my server name and what common name should I use?
[15:08] <jimmy51_> what do file permissions need to be for an NFS share to be accessible?
[15:08] <SirShmoopy> MagicJ, okay thanks, ive been happy with that brand as well,
[15:10] <BluesKaj> jimmy51_, probly rw , should show in fstab entry
[15:11] <balaji_> llutz:what is meant by upstart job?
[15:11] <jemmeli> edbian, here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/636373/
[15:11] <edbian> jemmeli: reading...
[15:11] <jimmy51_> BluesKaj: on the hosts's fstab?
[15:12] <Bisu[Shield]> what is the ubuntu equivallent of httpd -S ??
[15:13] <edbian> jemmeli: sudo iwlist scan
[15:13] <Pici> Bisu[Shield]: apache2ctl -s
[15:13] <Pici> Bisu[Shield]: apache2ctl -S
[15:13] <jemmeli> edbian, wlan0     Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
[15:14] <edbian> jemmeli: sudo ifconfig wlan0
[15:14] <edbian> jemmeli: the try the scan again
[15:15] <jemmeli> same edbian , should I try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[15:15] <edbian> jemmeli: you can try that
[15:15] <e-DIO-t> any about: "CIFS VFS: No response for cmd 50 mid :digit:" ?
[15:15] <jemmeli> edbian, SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill
[15:15] <edbian> jemmeli: sudo iwconfig might be interesting as well.  Your /etc/network/interfaces doesn't have any references to wlan0 does it?
[15:15] <engammalsko> If I install lamp-server... Will I still have desktop Ubuntu?
[15:16] <edbian> jemmeli: ahhh, the card is off.  (either in hardware or software).
[15:16] <brainwave92> need help with installing canon printer
[15:16] <edbian> jemmeli: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/rfkill
[15:16] <yellabs-r2> i am formatting an external 250 gigabyte harddisk with gparted, should it take really long time to finish ?
[15:16] <edbian> jemmeli: We just found / fixed the problem.
[15:17] <brainwave92> despite following instructions in the ubuntu forum tutorial, my captstatusui gives me check device path
[15:17] <brainwave92> yellabs-r2, no it shouldnt
[15:17] <yellabs-r2> hmm
[15:17] <jemmeli> edbian, http://pastebin.com/x76jSmz4
[15:17] <brainwave92> yellabs-r2, the only thing which takes long time in gparted is moving a drive
[15:17] <yellabs-r2> ok
[15:17] <edbian> jemmeli: did you look at rfkill yet? That's the problem.
[15:17] <jemmeli> i'm on it edbian
[15:18] <edbian> jemmeli: :)
[15:18] <brainwave92> @all:anyone help with the canon printer
[15:18] <rizzuh> When I uninstall Firefox via Synaptic, it forces me to install Chromium. Okay, fine. But if I want to remove Chromium it now wants me to install Epiphany. Why? I have the official Chrome installed, why does Synaptic force me to install these browsers? Ubuntu 11.04.
[15:18] <Guest94024> since upgrading to natty i have had to reinstall twice.when starting up i get the following "no wubildr".any ideas why?
[15:18] <Bisu[Shield]> nice... i just ran rm -f /. how do you undelete files?
[15:18] <edbian> jemmeli: basically sudo rfkill list   and you'll see if it's blocked or not.
[15:18] <ikonia> Bisu[Shield]: you can't
[15:19] <edbian> rizzuh: Having a browser is part of gnome.  So it wants you to have one.  The package manager does not know that chrome is installed because it was installed without the package manager
[15:19] <edbian> rizzuh: It is sometimes annoying.  Let me know if you solve this problem!
[15:19] <jemmeli> ok
[15:19] <jemmeli> I will try edbian
[15:19] <andantino> hmmm i got prompted to install updates and now i have a warning that says The Update Information is updated
[15:19] <edbian> jemmeli: sure
[15:19] <andantino> etc etc, when I manually update it says that some packages were not able to download
[15:20] <Pici> !undelete > Bisu[Shield] (but it probably isn't worth the effort)
[15:20] <rizzuh> edibian, it does know Chrome is installed because Google's repository is installed. It was installed via the Software Center, which I suspect used dpkg/apt-get internally.
[15:20] <edbian> rizzuh: Mmm, PPAs should be caught by the package manager.  Maybe it doesn't count for some other reason?  IDK
[15:21] <jemmeli> make; sudo make install will do the job right? just to make sure.
[15:21] <edbian> jemmeli: what?  No.  What are you making?
[15:21] <rizzuh> edbian: well they are. Why does Gnome want its own browsers? This has to be a recent update, as it didn't behave this way.
[15:21] <edbian> rizzuh: It behaves that way on Debian.  I just noticed it a couple months ago.  I don't know why.
[15:21] <jemmeli> http://wireless.kernel.org/download/rfkill/rfkill-0.4.tar.bz2
[15:21] <rizzuh> edbian: sigh :<
[15:21] <rizzuh> When I uninstall Firefox via Synaptic, it forces me to install Chromium. Okay, fine. But if I want to remove Chromium it now wants me to install Epiphany. Why? I have the official Chrome installed, why does Synaptic force me to install these browsers? Ubuntu 11.04.
[15:21] <edbian> jemmeli: You don't have to install it.  You alright have it.
[15:21] <balaji_> brainwave92: what problem are you having? i did canon printer installation successfully using the driver provided in canon site.
[15:22] <jemmeli> ah ok
[15:22] <edbian> jemmeli: You already have it.  sudo rfkill list
[15:22] <jemmeli> thank you
[15:22] <edbian> jemmeli: sure
[15:22] <edbian> jemmeli: close call there.
[15:22] <edbian> jemmeli: You're like 2 commands / steps from fixing the problem.
[15:22] <brainwave92> balaji_, can i pm you?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> rizzuh, chromium isa better choice for linux .. recommend the default version in the repos
[15:22]  * edbian agrees rizzuh
[15:23] <rizzuh> BluesKaj: I use the beta Chrome. Same thing, but with Google's branding. Besides, it's newer than the Ubuntu repositories.
[15:23] <jemmeli> edbian, http://pastebin.com/npbKQ2xb
[15:23] <balaji_> brainwave92:yeah
[15:23] <BluesKaj> rizzuh, newer isn't nessarily better or more stable
[15:24] <edbian> jemmeli: your wifi switch is on?
[15:24] <jemmeli> yes edbian
[15:24] <edbian> jemmeli: you wifi switch is set to 'off' rather
[15:24] <edbian> jemmeli: sudo rfkill unblock 0
[15:24] <rizzuh> BluesKaj: It's not that I don't know the consequences. But Chrome is updated a LOT more often than Ubuntu does in the repositories. Being a web developer, I kinda want to have complete control over the browsers.
[15:24] <edbian> jemmeli: Will unblock phy0  I'm not sure why there are 2 listed btw
[15:24] <jemmeli> it doesn't switch on and off. it is just blue and doesn't change when I push it.
[15:24] <jemmeli> ok
[15:25] <edbian> jemmeli: The light might not change but I bet the output of sudo rfkill list   changes
[15:25] <evon> does anyone one know of a barebones varient of ubuntu?
[15:25] <jemmeli> ok
[15:25] <edbian> jemmeli: Do you get what this is?  rfkill lists if the card is blocked in software or hardware.  The switch is a hardware block.
[15:25] <edbian> evon: Linux From Scratch ;)
[15:25] <rizzuh> BluesKaj, edbian, For some weird reason, Software Center removes it fine without requiring anything. Synaptic insists on installing other browsers. O_o
[15:25] <ikonia> edbian: it's not - please don't
[15:25] <jemmeli> you are right hp-wifi is not hardblocked anymore now
[15:26] <Pici> !minimal | evon
[15:26] <edbian> rizzuh: ha,  strange!
[15:26] <edbian> jemmeli: yep.  So is it softblocked still ?
[15:26] <jemmeli> yes
[15:26] <evon> edbian and pici thanks
[15:26] <edbian> evon: That was not serious!
[15:26] <Pici> evon: LFS is not affiliated with Ubuntu at all.
[15:26] <edbian> jemmeli: so unblock it with rfkill
[15:27] <jemmeli> one moment please
[15:27] <evon> pici i noticed that
[15:27] <evon> pici i'm looking for the minimal cd now
[15:27] <edbian> evon: The minimal CD is just minimal in size.  It still installs a full Ubuntu system.
[15:28] <Pici> edbian: No it does not.
[15:28] <jemmeli> edbian, I unblocked hp-wifi (1) should I ublock phy0 too (0) ?
[15:28] <edbian> Pici: it doesn't?
[15:28] <edbian> I'm gonna shut up now
[15:28] <jemmeli> ok
[15:28] <jemmeli> it works now
[15:28] <edbian> jemmeli: yes. unblock everything
[15:28] <Pici> edbian: "...allowing you to select only those you want"
[15:28] <edbian> jemmeli: yay
[15:28] <jemmeli> thank you verymuch edbian
[15:28] <edbian> jemmeli: works?
[15:28] <edbian> jemmeli: yay
[15:28] <jemmeli> I had to unblock phy0 too
[15:28] <edbian> Pici: mmm, never knew that!
[15:28] <edbian> jemmeli: sure
[15:28] <jemmeli> thank you verymuch edbian : )
[15:28] <evon> pici: what is the absolute minimum i need to install virtualbox?
[15:29] <edbian> jemmeli: sure
[15:29] <jpds> evon: You can download the server CD, prses F4 when it boots and select the "Install minimum system" option.
[15:29] <nick12345> comum.MessageDoCliente@1de498
[15:30] <Pici> evon: If minimal is what you were trying to go for, I'd go towards KVM rather than virtualbox.
[15:30] <evon> jpds, will that give me a gui? cause i need a gui.
[15:30] <jpds> evon: No.
[15:30] <jemmeli> oups
[15:30] <evon> pici. i've never heard of kvm. does it have  a gui? cause I am not good with commandiline
[15:31] <jemmeli> edbian, how do I hard unblock please?
[15:31] <jpds> Hardly minimal when you have a GUI.
[15:31] <edbian> jemmeli: using the switch
[15:31] <jpds> !info virt-manager | evon
[15:31] <comeador932> comum.MessageDoCliente@1d13272
[15:32] <edbian> jemmeli: sounds like the wifi light on your switch doesn't work.  I would ignore it from now on.
[15:32] <Pici> evon: I agree with jpds, if you want a minimal system, then generally you don't want a gui.
[15:32] <jemmeli> I can hard ublock hp-wifi using the switch but not phy0
[15:32] <edbian> jemmeli: how di phy0 become hard blocked?
[15:32] <jemmeli> yes it is always blue wheither it is blocked or not.
[15:33] <pensfan> HAPPY CANADA DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[15:33] <pensfan> GOING TO WATCH THE WEEZER OPEN FOR THE HIP!
[15:33] <Pici> evon: With KVM (jpds correct me if I'm wrong on this), you can install a virtual instance under KVM and if that runs a GUI, you could connect and manage it from another computer.
[15:33] <Pici> !ot | pensfan
[15:33] <jemmeli> I tried sudo rfkill block 0 to check which one activated wifi, hp-wifi or phy0
[15:33] <jpds> evon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/VirtManager
[15:33] <evon> pici, jpds: ok i need a minimal gui system ;-).  I just don't know enough about commandline to be comfortable
[15:33] <pensfan> shit wrong channel
[15:33] <pensfan> why the hell did that happen
[15:33] <edbian> Why are you asking us?
[15:33] <jemmeli> but sudo rfkill unblock 0 only soft unblocked it
[15:33] <Pici> pensfan: mind the language please too.
[15:34] <andantino> i think i have a package that is unable to update here, how can i tell which one it is
[15:34] <minimec> evon: Sorry if I pop in... First... To have the 'minimal' install, I would first stop all 'unneeded' dervices, As the update manager, zeitgeist and so on. What you want is as much RAM and CPU for your virtual machines. Then I would switch to a pure window manager like fluxbox or e17. That will free some capacities on the machine too.
[15:34] <edbian> jemmeli: I know that.  I don't think rfkill can hard block or hard unblock.  That's why I asked.  How did you hardblock?
[15:34] <jpds> evon: You don't need a GUI, you can connect to the KVM system with a desktop application on another machine, see the link I just sent you.
[15:34] <jpds> Pici: Yo. o/
[15:34] <andantino> when i do an update it says that it failed to retrieve certain files
[15:34] <facer> ....
[15:34] <edbian> andantino: sudo apt-get safe-upgrade        this does an upgrade at the command line
[15:34] <jemmeli> I think that is all I did.
[15:34] <Senix> is there a way to make lzma compress a directory from commandline? I keep getting lzma: InFoLib/: cowardly refusing to work on directory
[15:35] <jemmeli> I will try to reboot edbian
[15:35] <edbian> jemmeli: ok.
[15:35] <Pici> evon: KVM isn't as easy as virtualbox to setup, but I think its much more usable in the long run.
[15:35] <subtentar> for backtrack 5 how come when i boot it on a live cd there is no wireless interface that i can use
[15:35] <edbian> jemmeli: I'm not sure how you hardware blocked a virtual device
[15:35] <Pici> subtentar: We do not support backtrack here, please use their support channel at #backtrack-linux
[15:36] <subtentar> thanks Pici
[15:36] <andantino> ive tried updating from command line edbian
[15:36] <andantino> same thing
[15:36] <edbian> andantino: Can I see the output?
[15:36] <andantino> do you just want the errors
[15:37] <edbian> andantino: all the output from that command.
[15:37] <andantino> if it would save you some time
[15:37] <sgo11> hi, how to reload unity without logout?
[15:38] <andantino> it failed to retrieve something from two urls
[15:38] <edbian> andantino: try switching your servers.
[15:38] <andantino> and i checked the links, the pages no longer exist
[15:38] <edbian> andantino: what links?
[15:38] <edbian> andantino: I doubt they're webpages if they do or do not exist
[15:38] <andantino> http://ppa.launchpad.net/aheck/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources
[15:38] <morth> is there a way i can make sure "devilspie" starts BEFORE Eterm on bootup?
[15:39] <andantino> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/aheck/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[15:39] <eekTheCat> Is it possible to get the standard gnome foot iconography to show up instead of the ubuntu branded stuff?
[15:39] <evon> pici, jpds: I only understand the very basics of commandline.  It took me forever just to setup up my clearos server.  I need something I can setup with the knowledge I have right now. I feel i can get something working with vbox installed on a minimal gui system.    What software do you have installed from there?  What is aheck ?
[15:40] <sgo11> hi, i know repos stored in sources.list file. but what if I add a ppa? which file stores the ppa information? and btw how to check all repos that I am using? thanks.
[15:40] <subtentar> man im so pissed i accidentally uninstall windows 7
[15:40] <andantino> no clue
[15:40] <evon> subtentar lol
[15:40] <jimmy51_> sigh.  some days i think i'm a professional email answerer.
[15:40] <evon> subtentar chose the wrong partition to install to?
[15:40] <andantino> hmmm
[15:40] <jpds> sgo11: That same file, or create a new one under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[15:41] <jimmy51_> back to ubuntu... what user account needs rw priv's on an NFS share?
[15:41] <subtentar> yeah i tried to dual boot windows 7 and xp and windows xp partitioned my C drive
[15:41] <jpds> sgo11: Or use the 'add-apt-repository' script.
[15:41] <morth> is there a way i can make sure "devilspie" starts BEFORE Eterm on bootup?
[15:41] <ehw> /w/in 2
[15:41] <subtentar> and i have no backup which is gay
[15:41] <ehw> fail
[15:41] <xangua> sgo11: software centre-edit-software sources
[15:41] <jpds> ehw: was ist los?
[15:41] <sgo11> jpds, thanks. I saw the one I added in sources.list.d
[15:41] <Pici> evon: Then if you need lightweight, I suggest using something like lubuntu, which is in the repositories as the lubuntu-desktop package.
[15:41] <sgo11> is there a command that shows all repos I am currently using?
[15:43] <Pici> sgo11: I don't know of one command, but /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list are what you are using.
[15:43] <minimec> subtentar: IN some fllash media applications on a homepage you can 'pop up' the stream into a seperate window. That often does the trick with sluggish video on linux. It all depends on how tha media spp is programmed...
[15:43] <eekTheCat> subtentar, yeah. that sounds pretty homosexual.
[15:43] <sgo11> Pici, got it. thanks.
[15:43] <evon> pici, i will check it out thanks
[15:44] <morth> how do i set a priority for my startup applications?
[15:45] <sgo11> i just install some indicators. how to show them without logout? or how to reload unity without logout? I have many files/folders/apps open, I don't want to restart them. thanks.
[15:45] <brainwave92> morth, priority as in?
[15:45] <morth> im having an issue where my Eterm boots before my devilspie.
[15:45] <jwash> hi everyone, how do i make x11vnc never shutoff its connection?
[15:45] <ehw> jpds: ich no tipp gut
[15:46] <minimec> morth: Easy thing is to write a bash script, that you can always modify with a text editor... Then you add that script to the 'startup applications'
[15:46] <oCean> eekTheCat: mind your attitude here.
[15:46] <brainwave92> minimec, but morth is probably already having the startup script for those apps
[15:47] <brainwave92> minimec, they both start at startup already....so they must be called in that order during boot
[15:47] <Northernen> Isn't the order of the startup scripts given by their number in the rc runlevel directories?
[15:47] <edbian> jemmeli: You're back?
[15:47] <brainwave92> exactly...which is why he/she needs to modify that order
[15:47] <morth> brainwave92 where would i go about to modify the order?
[15:48] <jemmeli> I got it edbian http://pastebin.com/kdFfyZDL I typed some notes
[15:48] <sgo11> I guess there is no way to refresh unity. I will simply logout and login then.
[15:48] <minimec> brainwave92: morth: Well then I would add some 'sleep command' between the startup commands.
[15:48] <edbian> jemmeli: good
[15:48] <Abhijit> hi
[15:48] <jemmeli> it was about the order of unblocking phy0 and hp-wifi
[15:48] <edbian> jemmeli: I think the wifi switch controls both phy0 and hp-wifi
[15:48] <edbian> jemmeli: Ohhh, the order matters!
[15:48] <edbian> ok
[15:48] <jemmeli> may be, I am not sure
[15:49] <morth> minimec: i had added a sleep 5, 10 to the command line but still having this issue, sec ill post the link on what i'm doing.
[15:49] <Abhijit> i installed e17 from packages.enlightenment.com/ karmaic and it automatically removed my network manager. now i do not have internet. how do i install the network manager? please help?
[15:49] <morth> minimec: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36811
[15:49] <edbian> jemmeli: glad we got it! :D
[15:49] <jemmeli> I am sure about the order because the first time I tried I first unblocked hp-wifi. but the way around didn't work
[15:49] <jemmeli> thank you edbian : ) I learned a new thing today
[15:50] <brainwave92> morth: i dont know anything about the programs you are talking about, i'll just google them and brb
[15:50] <morth> minimec: i have everything working fine, only problem is that i have Eterm 0.9.5 on my bottom panel which i find highly annoying and i want to remove it, seeing the other screenshots in the thread they don't have the same issue.
[15:50] <morth> brainwave92: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=36811
[15:50] <edbian> jemmeli: sure :)  Glad I could help
[15:51] <xangua> Abhijit: karmic is not supported , you can install network-manager and gnome-ketwork-manager fro the live cd
[15:51] <jemmeli> btw, my nick is Neo31, I am just using this one to help a friend migrate to ubuntu
[15:51] <Abhijit> xangua, you have not read / understood the questin properly
[15:51] <Northernen> morth, go to /etc/rc2.d/ and rename those links.
[15:52] <Abhijit> xangua, cds are not detecting.
[15:52] <morth> Northernen, is your name northern england?*
[15:52] <edbian> jemmeli: why would you need to switch nicks for that?
[15:52] <xangua> Abhijit: then enter to teh cd , search and extract the debs
[15:52] <Abhijit> xangua, software sources can not detect the cd. but actually the cd is moutned. i can access it through nautilus
[15:52] <Northernen> morth, no...
[15:52] <xangua> did it once ;)
[15:52] <jemmeli> I'm just using the default nick on his comp edbian
[15:52] <Abhijit> xangua, tried that also. no .debs in cd.
[15:53] <edbian> jemmeli: ahh
[15:53] <minimec> morth: You mean the  'tail' windows...
[15:53] <brainwave92> morth: see this link, maybe it'll help
 minimec: i have everything working fine, only problem is that i have Eterm 0.9.5 on my bottom panel which i find highly annoying and i want to remove it, seeing the other screenshots in the thread they don't have the same issue.
[15:53] <xangua> Abhijit: mmm they should be there :S
[15:53] <brainwave92> oops
[15:53] <Furai`> Hai, what was CLI command to add user?
[15:53]  * xangua searching for an ubuntu cd
[15:53] <Furai`> I know that there are 2 commands
[15:53] <brainwave92> i didnt know when that got copied! sorry.....http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages//lucid/man7/boot.7.html
[15:53] <Pici> Furai`: adduser
[15:53] <Furai`> But which is easier to use?
[15:54] <Pici> Furai`: adduser is the easier (and better for most people) than useradd.
[15:54] <Furai`> k
[15:54] <Furai`> I'll read man. Thanks.
[15:54] <ubutoer> hi. where the check i can enable to usage wifi hardware switch?!?!?! (which is F2 keyboard)
[15:56] <brainwave92> Ubutoer are you on a dell machine?
[15:56] <woozly|job> how to install Locale?
[15:56] <woozly|job> new locale, I don't see any 'ru_RU' in locale -a
[15:56] <woozly|job> and in sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[15:56] <Jonas_> Hi, i need some info
[15:57] <brainwave92> Jonas_, go ahead and ask!
[15:57] <brainwave92> What?
[15:57] <progre55> hi guys. is it possible to ssh into a server behind a corporate network from outside, not having access to any of the servers available from outside? I have a server running in the office, but would like to be able to access it remotely from outside the office
[15:58] <Dbl_Tap> progre55: you'd need to punch holes in the firewall for ssh
[15:58] <morth> brainwave92: i may be semi-retarded, where am i looking on this link
[15:58] <ubutoer> brainwave92: yes, dell studio 1555
[15:58] <oCean> !locale | woozly|job
[15:58] <llutz> progre55: one way: http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/238/ssh-reverse-tunneling/
[15:59] <progre55> llutz: thanks, let me have a look at it
[15:59] <ubutoer> brainwave92: i have installed broadcom restricted drivers but i can't get wifi to work because of "wifi is disabled by hardware switch" message
[15:59] <skynix> hi llutz
[15:59] <progre55> Dbl_Tap: I can ssh from it to a server at home.. and reverse-tunneling would work in my case, I hope..
[16:00] <brainwave92> ubutoer, just press Fn+F2
[16:00] <ubutoer> brainwave92: doesn't works, tried that
[16:00] <brainwave92> ubutoer then try just f2
[16:00] <oCean> ubutoer: in terminal  rfkill list all
[16:00] <Dbl_Tap> progre55: sorry nothing that I've done. Best of luck though.
[16:00] <mta`chrono> exit
[16:00] <Diverdude> is it more difficult for people to write virus for linux than for windows?
[16:00] <progre55> Dbl_Tap: thanks
[16:01] <edbian> Diverdude: short answer: yes.
[16:01] <pythonirc1011> algorithmic.sty -- which package provides that?
[16:01] <Dbl_Tap> Diverdude: no more difficult; not as profitable
[16:01] <oCean> ubutoer: then a  sudo rfkill unblock 0  should unblock device phy0
[16:01] <Diverdude> edbian, why?
[16:01] <Pici> pythonirc1011: texlive-science
[16:01] <pythonirc1011> Pici: Thanks
[16:01] <brainwave92> ubutoer:and paste the output in http://www.pastebin.com
[16:02] <Pici> pythonirc1011: http://packages.ubuntu.com would help for this in the future.
[16:02] <ubutoer> oCean: http://pastebin.com/5426PAkj
[16:02] <ubutoer> brainwave92: http://pastebin.com/5426PAkj
[16:02] <oCean> ubutoer: then a  sudo rfkill unblock 0  should unblock device phy0
[16:02] <edbian> Diverdude: well file permissions for one.  (I think window has that figured out though in win7). But on linux you're not root and you don't run random stuff as root so if you ran a virus it could only do stuff that you could do.  It could only delete your own files.  No other users and no system files.  Also we install stuff primarily from the repos.  Many people only from repos.  It's really really hard to get a virus in the repos.
[16:03] <ubutoer> "rfkill unblock 0" or 1 or 2 didn't work
[16:03] <edbian> ubutoer: sudo sudo rfkill list to see if your interfaces are even blocked
[16:03] <oCean> edbian: yes they were http://pastebin.com/5426PAkj
[16:03] <Diverdude> edbian, ahhh yes you are right
[16:04] <edbian> Diverdude: sure :)  There is some other stuff too.  About it not being profitable.
[16:04] <ubutoer> okay now F2 works
[16:04] <oCean> ubutoer: aha
[16:04] <ubutoer> where add this to make it permanent??
[16:04] <edbian> Diverdude: But I don't really count that.  Cause many many servers run linux and servers hold all the good stuff
[16:04] <Diverdude> edbian, the repo is a good argument
[16:04] <ubutoer> oCean: it says
[16:04] <ubutoer> no
[16:04] <ubutoer> for blocked
[16:04] <oCean> ubutoer: I think adding it to /etc/rc.local would be sufficient
[16:04] <edbian> ubutoer: It's hardware blocked.  rfkill only controls software block.  Use the switch to turn off hw block
[16:04] <oCean> ubutoer: and before it said 'yes'
[16:05] <edbian> Diverdude: yes.
[16:05] <brainwave92> ubutoer, the value is preserved between boots
[16:05] <brainwave92> so if you switched it onn now, unless you switch it off, its gonna stay on
[16:05] <edbian> Diverdude: and many many things on linux are open source.  so a virus would quickly be noticed.  Either suspeciously binary or clearly (source code) malicious
[16:05] <Diverdude> edbian, basically also the reason why android has more malware than iphone
[16:05] <oCean> brainwave92: In my experience that might not be so when dual-booting
[16:06] <edbian> Diverdude: android has more malware that iphone because android market is easier to get into I think.
[16:06] <Diverdude> edbian, exactly, the repo argument
[16:06] <edbian> Diverdude: yeah :)
[16:06] <edbian> Diverdude: but I think apple is too strict.
[16:06] <Diverdude> edbian, very difficult to get into the iphone repo...more easy the android
[16:07] <Diverdude> edbian, but that means that malware can get into opensource repos...which means it could also get into linux
[16:07] <brainwave92> oCean, i have dual booting as well,and its on unless i turn it off
[16:07] <oCean> brainwave92: I no longer dualboot, but I found out (for a collegue) that windows (at shutdown) blocked the device
[16:08] <edbian> Diverdude: It could get into linux. But it's open source so it is quickly noticed.  I'm not sure what the review process is for android.  But Debian / Ubuntu.  Malicious software simply doesn't get in.  I've never seen or heard of it anyway.
[16:08] <Diverdude> edbian, if it can get into android it can get into debian no?
[16:09] <edbian> Diverdude: Those are different repos.
[16:09] <edbian> Diverdude: The android SDK itself is not in Debian repos
[16:09] <Diverdude> edbian, yes i know....but the idea is the same
[16:09] <edbian> Diverdude: Well I think it's harder to get into Debian/Ubuntu repos than it is to get into android repos.
[16:09] <Diverdude> edbian, the only reason android has malware is because there is a large amount of people to affect
[16:09] <edbian> Diverdude: And I don't think all of android id open source?  I could be wrong
[16:09] <oCean> edbian: Diverdude is this discussion still about ubuntu?
[16:09] <Diverdude> edbian, why do you think so?
[16:10] <Diverdude> oCean, yes it is
[16:10] <edbian> Diverdude: Let's chat in offtopic?
[16:10] <oCean> thank you
[16:10] <brainwave92> oCean, may be, but i havent experienced that till date
[16:10] <edbian> Diverdude: It's really not worth arguing with him.
[16:12] <morth> blahh, ladie switched the circuit breaker lol
[16:12] <brainwave92> morth:u solved it?
[16:13] <morth> brainwave92: no, ladie switched the wrong circuit on the breaker, turned my computer off :-(
[16:13] <edbian> darn lady
[16:13] <brainwave92> yup darn her
[16:13]  * morth puts female in kitchen.
[16:13] <jpds> ...
[16:14] <thorzton> sudo switch plunbum into Aurum. :-)
[16:14] <edbian> awkward...
[16:14] <morth> juuuust kidding :-) don't need to get all personal now hahahah
[16:16] <glenn_> why goes by screen blak after 10 min and the pc is still working but i can't get it form black to normal screen
[16:16] <born2befrag> #pvm
[16:16] <brainwave92> glenn_, can you explain a bit more?
[16:16] <born2befrag> oops
[16:17] <cyperbg> guys, how can I add a script to the auto start list but with sudo?
[16:17] <tripelb> Installer (yes linux too) saw it on reddit. You might want to take a look. http://www.reddit.com/tb/idzyx
[16:17] <cyperbg> but sudo /home/cyper/Autominer/startmining.sh does not as it apparently asks for password
[16:17] <glenn_> brainwave92 i can't a after i think 10 min when i'm working my screen change to black
[16:18] <morth> brainwave92: that link you gave me, i think im semi-retarded or real tired, where should i be looking
[16:18] <Abhijit> xangua
[16:18] <glenn_> brainwave92, it's lik screensave when you install blackscreen.
[16:18] <brainwave92> morth:i didnt read it fully,  i just saw it has all on startup scripts and gave it to you
[16:19] <Omega> I keep getting a segmentation fault on startup. Both with 3.5.1 and 4.0.2.
[16:19] <Abhijit> i am continuely getting notice that #ubuntu :You're not channel operator but i have not done anything!!!
[16:19] <brainwave92> glenn_which ubuntu are you running?
[16:20] <Abhijit> still getting the same.
[16:21]  * Abhijit have not done anything!
[16:22] <brainwave92> glenn_, what are your power options? i have a belief it goes to sleep or lock screen or suspend after 10 minutes
[16:22] <glenn_> brainwave92, where can i see that
[16:22] <sudokill> glenn_, go into power options disable turn off monitor after x minutes
[16:22] <eekTheCat> oCean, huh?
[16:23] <brainwave92> glenn_, go to system, preferences, power options
[16:23] <brainwave92> power management sorry
[16:23] <Abhijit> how to stop plugin in xchat?
[16:23] <sudokill> window, lugins, unload
[16:23] <sudokill> plugins*
[16:24] <brainwave92> glenn_, saw?
[16:24] <Abhijit> yeah
[16:25] <oCean> eekTheCat: you cannot use 'homosexual' in a pejorative manner here
[16:25] <eekTheCat> oCean, oh, heh.  It did this with the default 11.04 setup, and with the newer 2.6.39-994 kernel and the xorg-edgers installed.
[16:28] <glenn_> sudokill, whut why can't i reactivate it
[16:28] <brainwave92> glenn_, just change all of them to 'never'
[16:28] <eekTheCat> oCean, I mean I was drawing his attention. Trying to hilight to him the ugliness of what he was saying... Whatever I just won't use the word here again.
[16:29] <glenn_> brainwave92, why can't i reactived it when  it is black
[16:29] <brainwave92> glenn_, i dont know why, but linux seems to have an issue resuming on many machines, of all sorts like, blank screen, missing icons, non response of the window close buttons
[16:29] <oCean> eekTheCat: Ok, thanks.
[16:29] <brainwave92> in mine, it has happened twice that close maximized the window beyond my monitor!
[16:29] <edbian> brainwave92: It is a very difficult thing to do because there is no standard that hw manufactures follow
[16:30] <alejandro> edbian: hi
[16:30] <brainwave92> edbian, exactly....and most  hardwares have good drivers for windows
[16:30] <edbian> brainwave92: IDK if device drivers have much to do with it.
[16:30] <brainwave92> edbian, then what else?
[16:30] <glenn_> brainwave92, thnx is there a posibility that to let the pc's in hybernate after 30 min not used
[16:30] <engammalsko> Hi, I have installed lamp server, i can now acess <IP_ADDRESS> but what if I want other computers to access it? What should I do then?
[16:31] <brainwave92> glenn_, obviously there would be
[16:31] <edbian> brainwave92: I don't know the details.  I'm not disagreeing.  I'm saying 'I don't know'
[16:31] <brainwave92> glenn_, in the same power managemnt! just care to look na
[16:31] <brainwave92> edbian, still, in your opinion something would be the reason na? at least one
[16:31] <llutz> engammalsko: change "Listen ..."  in your apache-config
[16:31] <edbian> brainwave92: what?
[16:32] <engammalsko> llutz: gedit /etc/apache.cnf or what? :)
[16:32] <brainwave92> edbian, what according to you, might be the cause of the problem of linux not resuming because of non standard hardware
[16:32] <brainwave92> when windows can
[16:32] <edbian> brainwave92: I think it has to do with the motherboard.  Not the other devices.
[16:33] <brainwave92> oh k
[16:33] <llutz> engammalsko: /etc/apache2/-somewhat-
[16:33] <edbian> brainwave92: Beyond that I really don't know.  Seems to me that it would be as simple as dump the state of ram / CPU registers / CPU cache on the hdd.  shut down. When you turn back on grab it and put it back. Clearly it is not that simple
[16:34] <engammalsko> llutz: I found it : )
[16:34] <rhin0> i've got a stupid problem between 10.04 and 11.04 where it seems to be losing connection -- ssh - i'm unable to log in after a while -- then maybe not for a while - anyone know what it may be? -- also losing nfs shares -- upon mount "no route to host" -- anyone got any ideas?  I have an idea it may be on the 11.04 side
[16:34] <rhin0> the problem --- because I've not had a problem ocnnecting from 11.04 to 11.04 its just from 10.04 to 11.04
[16:34] <engammalsko> llutz: I took ctrl+f and typed listen but didn't find anything : (
[16:34] <rhin0> wireless network
[16:35] <llutz> engammalsko: grep -r Listen /etc/apache2/*
[16:35] <engammalsko> Aha
[16:36] <oCean> engammalsko: by default port 80 is enabled (in /etc/apache2/ports.conf)
[16:36] <Furai`> I've got only CLI access to my ubuntu server and I'd like to change language for one specific user to English - can someone guide me how to do it?
[16:36] <okee> How well does the	NVIDIA Quadro 1000M run Ubuntu and Gentoo?
[16:36] <engammalsko> oCean: Yeah, I use port 80, should I change that?
[16:36] <engammalsko> llutz: sudo grep -r Listen /etc/apache2/apache2.conf didn't do anything...
[16:37] <deem> apache is not listening on an specific ip adress. it's listening on defined ports
[16:37] <oCean> engammalsko: not necessarily, it should already be accessible from remote machines
[16:37] <mbbn> #drbd
[16:37] <mbbn> hi
[16:37] <llutz> engammalsko: because there is no Listen-statement in that file. the reaso i gave you a wildcard...
[16:37] <deem> but you can tell apache to use given ip adresses. if you create virtualhosts you can say apache  should listen on ip:port
[16:37] <okee> Will the NVIDIA Quadro 1000M run Ubuntu?
[16:38] <llutz> engammalsko: sudo netstat -tulpen |grep :80                to check if it really only listens on <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:38] <stephanmg> what exactly means if i activate in for example software center "canonical partners" resource?
[16:38] <glenn_> how can i set my pc in hybernate after x min not used
[16:38] <deem> engammalsko: take a look at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[16:39] <rhin0> maybe in power settings glenn_
[16:39] <engammalsko> llutz: Tes <IP_ADDRESS>.0:80 can I change the 0.0 etc to my ip?
[16:39] <engammalsko> Yes*
[16:39] <oCean> engammalsko: no, that is the correct configuration
[16:39] <deem> engammalsko: why do you want to change it? <IP_ADDRESS> is the internet :D
[16:39] <llutz> engammalsko: <IP_ADDRESS>.0 == listens on all adresses available. so you should be able to access via LAN
[16:39] <engammalsko> oCean: Okay, so what should I do then? Xd
[16:40] <oCean> engammalsko: to accomplish what exactly?
[16:40] <glenn_> rhin0, no
[16:40] <engammalsko> oCean: I want everyone to access my server.
[16:40] <oCean> engammalsko: and how do you know that that does not work?
[16:40] <Furai`> I've got only CLI access to my ubuntu server and I'd like to change language for one specific user to English - can someone guide me how to do it? Anyone?
[16:41] <engammalsko> oCean: how do I test?
[16:41] <mariachi_alegre> hello boys and girls, I'm a noob. I need to redirect traffic based on url (2 different boxes). Is it possible to do this with iptables o I should use mod_proxy?
[16:41] <Furai`> I log to it through ssh.
[16:41] <oCean> engammalsko: on a remote machine, start a browser, and browse to your server
[16:41] <engammalsko> oCean: and my server is? my ip?
[16:42] <oCean> engammalsko: if you don't use dns, then you have to browse using the ip address of your server
[16:42] <glenn_> for hibernate you have to install the package hibernate
[16:43] <engammalsko> oCean: and the ip of my server is the same as my public ip?
[16:43] <deem> engammalsko: if your server stand at home. you have to do port forwarding
[16:43] <jemmeli> edbian, I got it. I written a script to auto unblock on startup. But I find out that there is no need to unblock using rfkill. I reproduced this more than five times. I had to press enter on the grub menu to boot the system, wait a sec or half, press the wifi button for a sec or half. When the system is on rfkill list shows that non is blocked (hard and soft for both hp-wifi and phy0) this article helped me : http://glonek.co.uk/linux-mint/wireless-disabl
[16:43] <jemmeli> ed-stuck-in-phy0-hard-blocked/
[16:43] <deem> if you got a firewall in your modem. but today. every router/modem got this
[16:43] <engammalsko> deem: Ah, port foward 80 to 80 both?
[16:43] <jemmeli> http://glonek.co.uk/linux-mint/wireless-disabled-stuck-in-phy0-hard-blocked/
[16:43] <engammalsko> I mena bot udp and tcp?
[16:43] <Micklie> hi !!!
[16:44] <oCean> engammalsko: I'm not sure what your configuration is. However, using 'ifconfig -a' lists ip addresses for all of your interfaces
[16:44] <Micklie> do u want a google+ invitation ? (it's a google facebook")
[16:44] <ikonia> Micklie: this isn't the place to advertise that
[16:44] <jemmeli> The computer is HP Compaq Presario CQ60 in case that can be useful for you edbian
[16:44] <Micklie> blablabla
[16:44] <deem> engammalsko: try "netstat -tulpen" it will tell you what protocoll apache is using
[16:44] <brainwave92> Mickie, u are likely to get kicked soon
[16:45] <Micklie> yes :)
[16:45] <iszak> Is there any /easy/ way to burn a dmg file?
[16:45] <brainwave92> admins! channel ops! we got CLUTTER here
[16:45] <Micklie> lol
[16:45] <oCean> brainwave92: calm down please
[16:45] <ikonia> Micklie: - please stop, this ins't the place
[16:45] <brainwave92> oCean, sure
[16:45] <Micklie> ikonia: poopoo
[16:46] <brainwave92> ikonia, neat
[16:46] <mariachi_alegre> hello boys and girls,
[16:46] <mariachi_alegre> I need to redirect traffic based on url (2 different boxes). Is it possible to do this with iptables o I should use mod_proxy?
[16:47] <ikonia> mirsal: you'd use something like squid or apache with mod rewrite for that
[16:47] <mirsal> ikonia: wrong guy
[16:47] <ikonia> opos mariachi_alegre that was for you
[16:47] <ikonia> mirsal: sorry
[16:47] <mirsal> np :)
[16:49] <godtrunks> sombody can help me with aircrack?
[16:49] <Zipo> I closed empathy's main window. How do I open it again? Clicking on empathy's icon on Unity's sidebar bring me the chat windows
[16:50] <godtrunks> somebody can help me with aircrack?
[16:50] <sarahh> is www.gsick.com some sort of facebook for geeks?
[16:50] <brainwave92> godtrunks, sure about this place to ask?
[16:51] <brainwave92> Zipo, epiphany-broweser
[16:51] <brainwave92> epiphany-browser
[16:51] <brainwave92> type that in terminal
[16:52] <elkng> where can I find links for 11.04 DVD iso files ?
[16:52] <godtrunks> how can i crack a wpa network with n900? is asking me for dictionary, but i don't have on my phone.i have downloaded one but where i put it?
[16:52] <brainwave92> elkng, on the ubuntu site of course!
[16:52] <deem> elkng: releases.ubuntu.com
[16:52] <Pici> godtrunks: We do not support such things here.
[16:52] <brainwave92> godtrunks, yes we dont
[16:52] <godtrunks> ok
[16:52] <godtrunks> then with my wireless card?
[16:52] <brainwave92> godtrunks, and we arent going to tell you that aircrack can only do attacks for wpa-psk
[16:53] <brainwave92> and that too a dictionary mode attacj only
[16:53] <Pici> brainwave92: stop.
[16:53] <mariachi_alegre> lol
[16:53] <brainwave92> oops...ok
[16:53] <jmknsd> Okay, I installed the xorg-edgers ppa, and it fixed my stability problems, and now the newest bleeding edge drivers have horked my system good. How can I roll them back?
[16:53] <brainwave92> apologies
[16:53] <llutz> godtrunks: http://aircrack-ng.org/documentation.html
[16:53] <brainwave92> llutz, u are helping him/her too.....but Pici didnt let me....:(
[16:53] <godtrunks> is working fine for wep but for wpa?
[16:54] <brainwave92> godtrunks, u are going to be kicked at this rate
[16:56] <buzzkill> elkng:  I do not see a DVD image.
[16:56] <godtrunks> k, this doesn't matter, i have a usb asus wireless card, i make all unbuntu updates, i have the drivers.how i install it?
[16:57] <brainwave92> buzzkill:the dvd is only for the additional language packs
[16:57] <brainwave92> are you sure u need all those language packs?
[16:57] <brainwave92> if not, then cd is enuf actually
[16:58] <buzzkill> well, he was pointed to releases.ubuntu.com and the page does not show either 'language pack' nor DVD.
[16:58] <buzzkill> just lending more eyes
[16:59] <godtrunks> i have a usb asus wireless card, i make all unbuntu updates, i have the drivers.how i install it?
[16:59] <escott> buzzkill, its in the alternate downloads
[17:00] <escott> godtrunks, !paste the output of lsusb
[17:00] <johnnyj> join Erepublik, fight for your coutry: http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Johnny+J
[17:00] <godtrunks> can u give me the command?
[17:00] <godtrunks> i 'm new in this
[17:01] <johnnyj> join Erepublik, fight for your coutry: http://www.erepublik.com/en/referrer/Johnny+J
[17:01] <ikonia> johnnyj: please don't advertise
[17:01] <llutz> johnnyj: not here please
[17:01] <godtrunks> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[17:01] <godtrunks> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 045e:0750 Microsoft Corp. Wired Keyboard 600
[17:01] <godtrunks> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[17:01] <godtrunks> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 045e:00cb Microsoft Corp. Basic Optical Mouse v2.0
[17:01] <godtrunks> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[17:01] <godtrunks> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0b05:1784 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. 802.11n Network Adapter
[17:01] <FloodBot1> godtrunks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:01] <escott> godtrunks, sudo apt-get install pastebinit; lsusb | pastebinit; then copy and paste the url here
[17:01] <buzzkill> thanks brainwave92 and escott ... it is elkng that needs the assistance... yet, for 11.04 I still do not see a DVD option. Nor do _I_ need it. =)
[17:02] <daniel> hello
[17:02] <brainwave92> hello
[17:02] <buzzkill> howdy all.. I have an issue I am trying to track down. Google did not provide a clear enough result for me. I am getting this in dmesg every 5 seconds... actually, 10 of these every 5 seconds.
[17:02] <buzzkill>  non-matching-uid symlink following attempted in sticky world-writable directory by sabnzbdplus (fsuid 1003 != 1000)
[17:02] <elkng> "releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/11.04/" <- there are only CD versions, are there DVD ?
[17:03] <brainwave92> elkng, dvd includes extra language packs thats all
[17:03] <escott> godtrunks, that is apparently an rt3070 see if this helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1444746
[17:03] <brainwave92> if you dont need them use the cd
[17:03] <Pici> elkng: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[17:03] <llutz> elkng: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/11.04/release/ubuntu-11.04-dvd-i386.iso
[17:03] <godtrunks> ok, this is the answer for lusb
[17:03] <godtrunks> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[17:04] <godtrunks> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 045e:0750 Microsoft Corp. Wired Keyboard 600
[17:04] <ikonia> godtrunks: don't do it again
[17:04] <brainwave92> Use pastebin
[17:04] <brainwave92> godtrunks, use pastebin.com for all such things
[17:04] <brainwave92> dont flood the channel
[17:04] <escott> godtrunks, most of the search results will come from searching for the usb id 0b05:1784. and please listen to the bot
[17:04] <escott> !paste | godtrunks
[17:05] <brainwave92> escott, i aint a bot!
[17:05] <godtrunks> ok
[17:05] <godtrunks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/636412/
[17:05] <KR> 올
[17:05] <evelyette> hi
[17:05] <KR> hi
[17:05] <godtrunks> now what i do?
[17:05] <evelyette> my ubuntu desktop doesn't automatically boot on power failure ...
[17:05] <evelyette> what to do ?
[17:06] <evelyette> well it comes to grub ... but it stays in grub
[17:06] <dolmio> hello
[17:06] <evelyette> why doesn't the grub automatically boot the linux, since it's configured to timeout in 20seconds
[17:06] <ikonia> evelyette: it will
[17:06] <brainwave92> evelyette, are you sure u dont press any key?
[17:07] <elkng> what do "OMAP3" "OMAP4" mean ?
[17:07] <brainwave92> cause the timer stops the moment you twiddle with the keys
[17:07] <escott> elkng, they are chips for phones usually
[17:07] <Gaming4JC> Hey guys, is it possible to join an SSH session already in progress? I booted my ubuntu-desktop and was working in ssh, and now I'd like to resume that SSH on the box itself rather than via the SSH connection
[17:07] <Gaming4JC> complex I know but anyways :D
[17:08] <ikonia> godtrunks: not really as you request, without tools such a screen
[17:08] <ikonia> godtrunks: sorry, not you
[17:08] <ikonia> Gaming4JC: ^
[17:08] <godtrunks> so, somebody can help me?
[17:08] <godtrunks> with the usb wireless card?
[17:09] <brainwave92> wait.....give the output of iwconfig
[17:09] <evelyette> brainwave92, it won't
[17:09] <evelyette> yes I'm sure
[17:09] <evelyette> because it doesn't even have a keyboard present
[17:09] <evelyette> I can't press a key
[17:09] <brainwave92> ok.....and u still want it to boot?
[17:09] <evelyette> and this happens only on power fail
[17:09] <brainwave92> without the keyboard?
[17:10] <evelyette> brainwave92, yes it's a server
[17:10] <brainwave92> oh
[17:10] <brainwave92> evelyette, i have never touched a server in my life...probably others on the channel will help
[17:10] <brainwave92> godtrunks, can u show?
[17:11] <godtrunks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/636416/
[17:11] <elkng> can I use "Preinstalled netbook image" for "samsung N450" ?
[17:12] <ikonia> evelyette: I'm not away of a pre-installed netbook image
[17:12] <ikonia> aware
[17:12] <Pici> beger: Are you done?
[17:12] <brainwave92> godtrunks, u have your wireless driver all right
[17:12] <brainwave92> or so i think
[17:12] <Pici> ikonia: check your tabs again ;)
[17:12] <evelyette> ikonia, I'm not asking you to be ... I'm only asking for why it doesn't boot after the failure (if I do restart or shutdown) it boots normalyl
[17:12] <godtrunks> i have a pci wireless card and a usb
[17:13] <godtrunks> and the usb wireless card is not working
[17:13] <godtrunks> wlan1
[17:13] <ikonia> Pici: thanks, evelyette sorry
[17:13] <Pici> elkng: Perhaps if you just explained what you were tring to do we could help.
[17:13] <brainwave92> godtrunks, i dont have any idea about these
[17:13] <brainwave92> or rather just a crude idea
[17:13] <brainwave92> maybe someone else can help
[17:14] <godtrunks> i have the divers
[17:14] <godtrunks> how i install them?
[17:14] <mneptok> godtrunks: what does lsusb tell you about the chipset model and minufacturer?
[17:14] <godtrunks> can u do it for me?
[17:14] <mneptok> *manufacvurer
[17:14] <mneptok> gah.
[17:14] <brainwave92> http://paste.ubuntu.com/636412/
[17:14] <brainwave92> it says taht
[17:15] <godtrunks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/636417/
[17:15] <mneptok> godtrunks: pastebin the output of "lsusb -vvv" please
[17:16] <escott> mneptok, its a rt series. i posted him a forum link that he ignored
[17:16] <godtrunks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/636419/
[17:17] <elkng> can I use this file: "kubuntu-11.04-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap.img.gz " to install it on SD card in embedded cardreader in netbook samsung N450 ?
[17:18] <ikonia> evelyette: where did you get that ?
[17:18] <ikonia> evelyette: damn it, sorry
[17:18] <ikonia> elkng: where did you get that ?
[17:19] <mneptok> godtrunks: it seems that device has no Free driver compiled into the mainline Linux kernel. this means that to get the device to work you will need to download driver source code and compile it yourself. and do that again every time you upgrade your kernel. probably easier to just try and find a supported device and buy it.
[17:20] <elkng> ikonia: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/kubuntu/11.04/release/
[17:20] <godtrunks> i had the driver.i'm new in this.how i install it?
[17:20] <ikonia> elkng: not an official ubuntu build - something someone else has put together, so can't really comment
[17:20] <mneptok> godtrunks: if you're new to Linux, compiling your own drivers against $CURRENT kernel sources is probably not something you want to get involved with.
[17:21] <godtrunks> can u do it for me?
[17:21] <mneptok> godtrunks: no.
[17:21] <ikonia> rieur: you've been asked to stop with the nick name changes
[17:21] <godtrunks> and that means that i remain to windows
[17:21] <Pici> ikonia: Those same images are located here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/
[17:22] <ikonia> Pici: really ?
[17:22] <mneptok> godtrunks: first, I use Debian. second, i'm on X86-64. i can't build stuff for X86 Ubuntu. and even if i could ...
[17:22] <godtrunks> i want to lear linux
[17:22] <aaa12293093> Hello I have a problem trying to boot ubuntu from usb.
[17:22] <Pici> elkng: Please take a look here for install instructions.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OMAP  You'll likely find limited support here for installing it though, we just aren't that familiar.
[17:22] <godtrunks> my phone has debian linux on it
[17:22] <ikonia> Pici: thank you very much, elkng my apologies
[17:22] <mneptok> godtrunks: compiling drivers is not where you start learning. and "do it for me" is not going to teach you anything.
[17:23] <godtrunks> i'm a good learner
[17:23] <ikonia> godtrunks: lots of info on the web and in the driver "README" file
[17:23] <godtrunks> but i do't understand all that is on readmefiles
[17:24] <tertl3> how do I enable Unity 3D?
[17:24] <ikonia> godtrunks: then you're not really in a position to build the drivers
[17:24] <aaa12293093> I have already a version of Ubuntu installed on my macbook. I want to try a different version from usb. I have a valid usb with ubuntu that boots fine on another computer with windows. On my mac if boot with the usb, Refit will see the usb. If I then select that instead of booting from usb it just shows the normal grub menu.
[17:24] <ikonia> godtrunks: purchase a supported card to get you working in Linux
[17:24] <brainwave92> aaa12293093, whats the problem?
[17:24] <aaa12293093> brainwave92: just typed ;-)
[17:24] <brainwave92> i saw it....sorry
[17:24] <kathie> For the last couple of days I am unable to connect my laptop to my router. I know the password is correct, it just wont connect. Can someone help me please?
[17:25] <mneptok> kathie: connect via cable and make sure the WEP/WPA password is what you think it is, and ensure MAC filtering isn't blocking you.
[17:25] <godtrunks> so, there are not *.deb file that ca do the job?
[17:26] <kathie> mneptok,  That is what I did. I am connected to ethernet now
[17:26] <mneptok> kathie: is MAC filtering off?
[17:26] <brainwave92> aaa12293093, Refit is the mac bootloader? i have never used mac
[17:26] <kathie> mneptok, I'm not sure how to check that. Can you help me with that?
[17:27] <aaa12293093> brainwave92: yes it is. But after that, grub fires up
[17:27] <brainwave92> yes
[17:27] <mneptok> kathie: your router OEM can :)
[17:27] <aaa12293093> brainwave92: how do I tell grub to start from USB?
[17:27] <elkng> where can I find all packages to download them ?
[17:27] <brainwave92> i assume u instlled the linux to the usb?
[17:27] <brainwave92> and during the installation, you would have installed the bootloader to the usb
[17:27] <jmknsd> How can  Iinstall packages from a repo, but not packages pushed  after a certain date?
[17:27] <brainwave92> the grub i mean
[17:27] <brainwave92> isnt it?
[17:28] <kathie> mneptok, Put it this way, I didn't change anything in my router, and all other wireless equipment in my house connects. It's my laptop
[17:28] <elkng> I dont want to use package manager, just want to download all packages on harddrave for later use, where can I find them ?
[17:29] <elkng> s/harddrave/harddrive
[17:29] <mneptok> kathie: i would pass this question to the OEM of the router.
[17:29] <kathie> mneptok, It's not the router
[17:30] <kathie> mneptok, I had a friend bring their laptop over and we connected to it
[17:30] <IdleOne> elkng: you want to download over 25000 packages?
[17:30] <IdleOne> I belive it is closer to 28000 or so
[17:30] <IdleOne> believe*
[17:30] <brainwave92> aaa12293093, no reply?
[17:31] <elkng> IdleOne: yes
[17:31] <Pici> elkng: Are you looking to create a repository mirror? Or are you just doing this for some other esoteric purpose?
[17:31] <escott> kathie, if you are able to connect when the network is unprotected it could be a problem with your wpasupplicant (or at least an incompatiblity with that of the routers) that would be odd though
[17:32] <kathie> escott, It seems to be with my laptop only. Android phone connects, friends laptop etc
[17:32] <Svartalf> kathie: It could also be that MAC authentication has been turned on with the router- if your MAC for the wireless isn't in it's approved list, you won't get on the AP, even if you've got the password right.
[17:33] <aaa12293093> brainwave92 has gone :(
[17:33] <aaa12293093> guys help. How do I tell grub to boot an ubuntu installation from usb?
[17:33] <aaa12293093> How do I tell grub to boot an ubuntu installation from usb?
[17:33] <escott> kathie, there are a host of possibilities why you can't connect. the thing to do is ease restrictions on the router and then put them back one at a time until you find the one that makes you unable to connect
[17:33] <kathie> Svartalf, It's odd that this is all happening now
[17:34] <kathie> escott, Svartalf mneptok The MAC filter on my router is disabled
[17:35] <escott> kathie, then disable wpa and see if that is the problem
[17:35] <deem> aaa12293093: update-grub with pluged in usb-drive
[17:35] <mneptok> kathie: you you restarted the router and cleared the prior saved connection info from Ubuntu?
[17:35] <Svartalf> kathie: Nod...  I suspect you might have a supplicant problem them.  Odd.
[17:35] <Svartalf> er...them==then...
[17:35] <aaa12293093> deem: is that a command to execute?
[17:35] <aaa12293093> deem: when in ubuntu?
[17:36] <kathie> mneptok, I haven't done that.. I will do that right now. I will reconnect and thank you if it works :-)
[17:36]  * Svartalf hates typing on a laptop where he can't turn the touchpad off, etc...  Keys are in the wrong place and I keep bumping the touchpad...grrr...
[17:36] <deem> aaa12293093: right
[17:36] <j^2> hey all, i'm having trouble with transmission, some one aronud to help out?
[17:36] <escott> !help | j^2
[17:36] <aaa12293093> deem: I'm trying...
[17:37] <j^2> is the only way to configure transmisison through the settings.json script? how do i take away the add screen and it just start the dl?
[17:37] <MC8> How do I import a key into the "Password and Encryption Keys" that I generated with  ssh-keygen?
[17:37] <aaa12293093> deem: update-grub or update-grub-2?
[17:38] <escott> MC8, import it where
[17:38] <sudokill> j^2 i think its show options windows false in settings.json
[17:38] <deem> aaa12293093: update-grub
[17:38] <j^2> on nice
[17:39] <j^2> thx
[17:39] <sudokill> j^2 but settings.json shouldnt be needed, just go to edit preferences untick show options
[17:39] <MC8> escott: well, I've got a key from using ssh-keygen (I think) in a terminal, and I'm wanting to import it with all my other keys into the "Passwords and Encryption Keys" dialog
[17:39] <Pici> j^2: #transmission may also be helpful, fyi :)
[17:40] <aaa12293093> deem: ok it found many /boot/.... folders
[17:40] <aaa12293093> I don't think it found anything in the usb
[17:40] <escott> MC8, my guess is gnome-keyring import ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[17:40] <MC8> escott: m'kay, I'll try that :)
[17:40] <Decepticon> hi!
[17:40] <Decepticon> hi people
[17:40] <Decepticon> I need to help
[17:40] <Decepticon> Hi
[17:41] <FloodBot1> Decepticon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:41] <aaa12293093> deem: the usb doesn't have a boot folder though... it has a isolinux one and many others
[17:41] <Decepticon> FloodBot1: Imdont understand
[17:41] <Pici> Decepticon: Stop pressing enter between every 3 words.
[17:41] <ikonia> Decepticon: just ask your question
[17:41] <Decepticon> FloodBot1:what soup with the past='
[17:41] <Decepticon> fuckup you
[17:41] <kathie_> mneptok, Ok, I restarted the router, and it took me a little while to connect. What I forgot to tell you before was that it connects sporadically. If I restart the laptop, it may not connect again.
[17:42] <IdleOne> :/
[17:42] <sudokill> says that then runs away
[17:42] <sudokill> lol
[17:42] <sudokill> scared
[17:42] <mneptok> sudokill: for the love of all that is good and holy, please stop the "lol" one-liners and IM-speak
[17:42] <deem> aaa12293093: you don't need a boot folder
[17:42] <larie> wget hangs http://dpaste.com/561803/
[17:42] <sudokill> mneptok, what im speak
[17:43] <sudokill> this is im?
[17:43] <aaa12293093> deem: I'll try to boot again
[17:43] <mneptok> sudokill: if you use "r" or "u" or a one-line "lol" again you will be banned. full stop. i am tired of asking you nicely and getting push-back.
[17:44] <sudokill> just ban me then. this channel is ridiculous if using u and r is bannable
[17:44] <elkng> Pici: want to have them
[17:44] <sudokill> its quickers any everyine understands
[17:44] <ikonia> sudokill: easy there,
[17:44] <brainwave92> mneptok, yes, u and r shuldb allowed
[17:44] <brainwave92> as they save time
[17:44] <mneptok> !u
[17:44] <ikonia> sudokill: if you have 2 minutes, jump into #ubuntu-ops and I'll explain
[17:45] <sudokill> explain what?
[17:45] <cheako> Hello, I've been having problems with MTU in regards to TCP.  I'd like to do some testing using SCTP's stream feature.
[17:45] <ikonia> sudokill: the issue
[17:45] <TheDadLife> laugh out loud?
[17:45] <sudokill> using u  and r isnt BAD
[17:45] <ikonia> sudokill: if you jump into #ubuntu-ops, we can talk about it
[17:45] <brainwave92> mneptok, just voicing my views......as it should b allowed in a chatroom filled with FOSS enthusiasts!
[17:45] <aaa12293093> deem: nada it didn't work
[17:45] <brainwave92> ikonia, can i come too?
[17:45] <deem> aaa12293093: do you use grub1 oder grub2?
[17:45] <ikonia> brainwave92: not at this time please.
[17:46] <sudokill> ikonia, its not just that. why are you so stirct in here for stupid things?
[17:46] <brainwave92> ikonia, ok
[17:46] <mneptok> brainwave92: see the above factoid, and abide by the channel policies.
[17:46] <ikonia> sudokill: please join #ubuntu-ops
[17:46] <sudokill> 2 mins
[17:46] <aaa12293093> deem: how do I know?
[17:46] <aaa12293093> :D
[17:46] <cheako> Is there a flavour of SSH that can use SCPT or unix sockets?  Currently I'm implementing syslog over SCTP using unix sockets via socat.
[17:46] <escott> sudokill, not everyone (including the many non-native speakers here) can understand that shorthand. lets please get back to the topic
[17:46] <deem> aaa12293093: apt-cache show grub-pc
[17:46] <aaa12293093> deem: let me check
[17:46] <shockrates> hey i have aproblem with sudo
[17:46] <shockrates> shockrates@PhoenixPC:~$ sudo
[17:46] <shockrates> sudo: unable to resolve host PhoenixPC
[17:46] <shockrates> i get this with every sudo command i type
[17:47] <ikonia> shockrates: look at your hosts file or dns
[17:47] <mun> hi
[17:47] <ikonia> shockrates:you need to be able to resolve your hostname
[17:47] <brainwave92> #join ubuntu-ops
[17:47] <escott> shockrates, check that your hostname in /etc/hostname is also listed in /etc/hosts with address of <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:47] <Starvirus> starvirus ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/hibernate <- shouldn't that line allow the user to run the command sudo -n /usr/sbin/hibernate without asking for a password?
[17:47] <mun> does anyone know why my clock, which is synced with the internet, is 1 hour ahead? no matter which timezone, it's 1hr ahead.
[17:47] <brainwave92> maybe u put daylight saving on?
[17:47] <cheako> escott: That configuration can cause problems with Kerberos.
[17:47] <deem> mun: bios settings?
[17:48] <brainwave92> i had a watch, which did the same thing with the ''daylight saving time' on
[17:48] <brainwave92> so maybe its that?\
[17:48] <mun> brainwave92, but daylight saving status should be synced, right
[17:48] <cheako> escott: Put simply each interface needs to have a uniq forward/reverse, so the <IP_ADDRESS> address can't conflict with the reverse for the hosts other interfaces.
[17:48] <mun> deem, my bios is right
[17:48] <dr_willis> mun:  here in indiana - we never take such things for granted.. :)
[17:49] <dr_willis> mun:  where are you located at?
[17:49] <escott> cheako, ok hadn't realized that. thanks
[17:49] <mun> dr_willis, i'm in the UK
[17:49] <sllide> fucking laptop
[17:49] <sllide> oh wrong channel
[17:49] <mun> dr_willis, but then, no matter which timezone i switch to, it's always 1 hour ahead.
[17:49] <dr_willis> mun:  it could be the clock/bios is set to GMT/UTC and your otehr clock is set to 'localtime' or visa versa
[17:50] <elkng> "a7xpg (0.11.dfsg1-6) [universe]" <- what does "universe" mean ?
[17:50] <mun> i'll check again
[17:50] <cheako> escott: Nether had I, a shock when I was first told.
[17:50] <mun> is there a way to check the bios clock without reboot? i'm copying a large file at the moment...
[17:50] <Pici> !universe | elkng
[17:51] <cheako> So can SSH use UNIX sockets instead of TCP?  or even better an SSH that's been migrated to use SCTP.
[17:52] <cheako> I have so many ideas right now, I can't work on all of them.
[17:53] <escott> cheako, looks like not https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1604
[17:54] <elkng> are the repositorues the same for ubuntu and kubuntu ?
[17:54] <elkng> can I use this link: "http://www.club.cc.cmu.edu/pub/ubuntu/pool/universe/" for kubuntu ?
[17:55] <escott> cheako, you could try a udptunnel
[17:55] <Pici> elkng: The repositories across, Ubuntu, Ubuntu-server and Kubuntu are all the same.
[17:56] <aaa12293093> deem: I believe I have version 1.99 is that possible?
[17:57] <Pici> aaa12293093: of?
[17:57] <engammalsko> Hi, I've just installed lamp-server and I'm wondering why this is happening: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ try the php file. It won't open in the browser
[17:57] <Pici> aaa12293093: sorry, I missed that you were directing that to someone, nevermind.
[17:57] <aaa12293093> Pici: executing apt-cache show grub-pc it says 1.0
[17:57] <aaa12293093> 1.9
[17:57] <cheako> escott: I think you misunderstand.  I'm looking to connect to an SSH server using SCTP in (what is effectively) TCP emulation mode.  I've currently done this for syslog using socat and IF I'm forced to use socat(looks like I am) with ssh, then I'd like to make use of unix sockets instead of random ports on the loopback interface.
[17:57] <aaa12293093> Pici: no prob
[17:58] <Pici> aaa12293093: grub-pc 1.9 = grub2, grub .97 = grub1
[17:58] <brainwave92> ok...talked with the channel-ops and fully agree with them now.....no shorthands should be used
[17:58] <aaa12293093> Pici: thanks
[17:59] <mati199537> hi
[17:59] <t_st> #accounting
[18:00] <jwash> hi everyone, how do i add workspaces manually, the option isn't showing in the workplace switcher, this is what appears when i hit properties: http://www.imagebam.com/image/092a91138781322
[18:00] <aaa12293093> Pici: I'm trying to boot from usb with BackTrack 5 on it. It boots fine on a windows computer. It doesn't on my macbook with Ubuntu. Grub menu appears and now choice for booting from usb. Any idea?
[18:00] <brainwave92> aaa12293093, where did you install the bootloader during the install?
[18:00] <Starvirus> i would bet the efi is the problem
[18:00] <brainwave92> bootloader to the linux sustem
[18:00] <adubz> does anyone know of a twitter client that will write to a .log file
[18:00] <Pici> Starvirus: I was thinking the same.
[18:01] <Lorant> hello
[18:01] <Lorant> anyone here who can help me a little bit?
[18:01] <adubz> that can be stored locally
[18:01] <IdleOne> Lorant: ask and find out :)
[18:01] <aaa12293093> brainwave92: My laptop's bootloader?
[18:01] <brainwave92> No
[18:01] <brainwave92> during the backtrack install....where did you install the bootloader
[18:02] <IdleOne> please take backtrack support to #backtrack-linux
[18:02] <aaa12293093> brainwave92: I didn't install backtrack, I've just downloaded the ISO and used unetbootin to create a bootable usb
[18:02] <Lorant> i had windows xp installed, i created another partition, installed ubuntu, and then reinstalled windows, the option with ubuntu disappeared from the boot screen, how can i put it back?
[18:02] <brainwave92> IdleOne, correct....
[18:02] <brainwave92> aaa12293093, pm me
[18:02] <escott> !grub | Lorant
[18:03] <nit-wit> Lorant, which ubuntu is installed which version?
[18:03] <Lorant> 9? i don`t remember actually
[18:03] <Lorant> the only thing is i can`t find my ubuntu DVD
[18:04] <edbian> Lorant: cat /etc/issue
[18:04] <escott> Lorant, burn a new install disk then from windows
[18:04] <Pici> adubz: ttytter seems to have support for extensions, and one of the examples they give is for a twitter logger (see http://www.floodgap.com/software/ttytter/adv.html )
[18:05] <eekTheCat> what is the "\n \l" for in /etc/issue?
[18:05] <mun> i'm having a problem with ubuntu one: i keep getting an error saying "file sync error. (auth failed (AUTH_FAILED))". My username and password are correct because I can get in through the web interface. does anyone know what's wrong?
[18:05] <IdleOne> mun: #ubuntuone should be able to help
[18:06] <mun> IdleOne, ok thanks
[18:08] <cheako> Have done this the hard way.  No need to assist me with this.
[18:08] <cheako> bye.
[18:10] <bytesaber_work> why doesn't apt-get install xmms give me a full working xmms?   i don't have any icons in sound + video
[18:11] <Pici> bytesaber_work: xmms is not in the repositories.
[18:11] <brainwave92> just what i was about to say
[18:11] <bytesaber_work> shows up in an apt-cache search
[18:11] <bytesaber_work> what do you use to play your ipod?
[18:11] <Pici> bytesaber_work: What release of Ubuntu are you using?
[18:12] <jpds> !info xmms2
[18:12] <bytesaber_work> 10.04
[18:12] <Pici> bytesaber_work: And the package name is 'xmms'?
[18:12] <bytesaber_work> ....  xmms2
[18:12] <willichan> Having difficulty making an XDMCP connection to my box running 10.04 desktop using Xming.  Has anyone had success with this?
[18:13] <brainwave92> bytesaber_work, maybe try synaptic for some missing parts?
[18:13] <bytesaber_work> synaptic?
[18:13] <Pici> bytesaber_work: xmms2 is not the same thing as xmms, its a complete redesign.  I'd suggest using something like audacious instead.
[18:13] <bytesaber_work> oh a gui for apt.  nah this should be fine
[18:13] <brainwave92> the synaptic package manager gui.....lists all the related stuff as well
[18:13] <brainwave92> maybe something specific is missing you can try installing/
[18:14] <nit-wit> bytesaber_work, synaptic is your best palce to find dependencies.
[18:14] <nit-wit> *place
[18:14] <bytesaber_work> brainwave92,  well ok i'll try.   guess 10 years of apt just never really have tried a gui lol
[18:14] <Pici> Er.. The package already has dependencies.
[18:14] <Error404NotFound> how can i run badblocks on whole disk e.g. /dev/sda without requiring a live cd/usb, etc? can't it work with ro mounted / ?
[18:14] <brainwave92> Pici, yes thats true, but sometimes somethings arent dependencies, but sometimes crop up
[18:15] <brainwave92> like newer versions....or something
[18:16] <bytesaber_work> thanks guys
[18:16] <ArmyMan007> hey guys
[18:16] <ArmyMan007> check this out: http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/234885/ubuntu_linux_day_30_what_i_learned_from_30_days_with_ubuntu_linux.html
[18:17] <Pici> brainwave92: How is synaptic going to show that better than using the terminal to find and show the package?
[18:17] <brainwave92> Ok....what does it do?
[18:17] <Pici> !ot | ArmyMan007
[18:17] <brainwave92> Pici, you can see some alternatives
[18:17] <brainwave92> and you neednt know the exact name
[18:18] <shockrates> hey i get this error
[18:18] <shockrates> ./pcsx2: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[18:18] <shockrates> how to fix it?
[18:18] <Pici> brainwave92: Theres a button that says 'alternatives'?
[18:18] <tfitts> if I have 2 network cards with an internet connection on each is there a way to specify which internet connection it will use?
[18:19] <brainwave92> tfitts, use ifconfig
[18:19] <brainwave92> or if wireless....iwconfig will work
[18:19] <brainwave92> Pici, sarcasm? ok i'll give you my example with avr
[18:19] <brainwave92> i needed the avr gcc
[18:20] <brainwave92> avr bin utils was the actual thing
[18:20] <shockrates> !find libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0
[18:20] <shockrates> !find libwx_baseu-2.8.so
[18:20] <brainwave92> i typed avr gcc....no results...but there were results with just avr....avr-bin-utils came! and i knew i was mistaken  about the name
[18:20] <brainwave92> that way
[18:21] <Pici> brainwave92: What I'm saying is that using something like 'apt-cache search avr' will give you the same information.
[18:21] <shockrates> ./pcsx2: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[18:21] <shockrates> i ge this error
[18:21] <shockrates> how to fix it
[18:21] <Pici> shockrates: What architecture are you running?
[18:21] <brainwave92> Maybe, but gui is easier. i can search all things.....and not type the command everytime
[18:22] <bytesaber_work> Pici, do you need a certain plugin for audacious to find an ipod?
[18:22] <shockrates> Pici: amd64
[18:22] <escott> tfitts, you may be able to play with gateways and hosts to direct through one or the other, usually it will pick whatever is the faster immediate connection for the bulk of the traffic. if you are more specific about what exactly you want to do that would help
[18:22] <willichan> doing an XDMCP connection from Xming on Windoze to an Ubuntu 10.04 box gives me connection refused message.  How can I fix this?
[18:23] <Pici> bytesaber_work: I don't know, sorry. I don't sync my ipod to my linux computer.
[18:23] <Pici> shockrates: and is that the 64 bit binary?
[18:23] <escott> !ufw | willichan if you have a firewall disable it, or open the required port
[18:23] <shockrates> Pici: no its 32bit
[18:23] <shockrates> Pici: i need to get 32 bit libs
[18:23] <bytesaber_work> Pici, oh, i thought you were recommending it for that
[18:24] <Pici> bytesaber_work: I was suggesting an xmms alternative, sorry for the confusion :/
[18:24] <willichan> @ubottu.  Thank you.  I will look at that.
[18:24] <Lartza> How would one get newest fglrx on ubuntu?
[18:24] <bytesaber_work> Pici, all good.  i can't seem to google a solution for playing.  i'm guessing i'm surprised it's not a simple thing.
[18:24] <Lartza> Not sure if it's newesr Ubuntu... I hopse so
[18:24] <Lartza> *hope
[18:24] <Lartza> But if it is then
[18:25] <bytesaber_work> i don't care about syncing and manaing an ipod.  just want to "play" it like a dock
[18:25] <Pici> !ipod | bytesaber_work check out these links
[18:25] <dr_willis> you mean you want to mount it - to access the files  bytesaber_work ?
[18:25] <bytesaber_work> dr_willis, no
[18:25] <bytesaber_work> play music
[18:25] <dgandhi360> Greetings all, how do I find the compile options used in a repository package?
[18:26] <dr_willis> remote control it? use its controlls and have the sound come out the pc spaeakers?
[18:26] <bytesaber_work> dr_willis, i'll manage it on my macbook as usual.  but like when i plug my ipod ito the usb port of my car.  i have a menu of music on it
[18:27] <Pici> dgandhi360: you can view the build logs on launchpad. Let me get you an example link.
[18:28] <dr_willis> bytesaber_work:  never seen such software that does that.
[18:28] <bytesaber_work> cars, docks, etc all can do it
[18:28] <bytesaber_work> should be simple
[18:28] <TheDreamLord> Hi
[18:28] <Pici> dgandhi360: So, starting at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/ and navigating to the latest upload (or any other version), and then clicking on the release and architecture name brings you to here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/4.2-0ubuntu4/+build/2511385 where you can click the buildlog link... I'm not sure thats what you're looking for though.
[18:29] <Pici> dgandhi360: you can also grab the source packages yourself by using apt-get sorce
[18:29] <Pici> dgandhi360: apt-get source   rather.
[18:29] <TheDreamLord> How do i give ubuntu read-write access of my windows operating system drive?
[18:29] <dr_willis> bytesaber_work:  sounds liek the kind of thing a company would need a License from apple to do also...
[18:29] <KINGOFSWORDS> hello
[18:30] <dr_willis> TheDreamLord:  mount them with the proper option from fstab, or use the ntfs-config tool to tweak the auto mount settings. or access them as root.
[18:30] <dgandhi360> Pici: Thank you much appreciated. I need to build from newer source, but just wanted to keep the same functionality.
[18:30] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[18:30] <KINGOFSWORDS> i install lilo by mistake and now am stuck at bash cmd in ubuntu
[18:30] <antihero> How would I use apt(itude) to display possible versions for a package?
[18:30] <KINGOFSWORDS> any1 tell me how i can fix this?
[18:30] <antihero> Also how do I find out what version of a system is installed (9.04? 9.10?)
[18:30] <dr_willis> KINGOFSWORDS:  bash cmd?  or you mean the GRUB command line? or what exactly?
[18:31] <Ether_Man> Does bind9 work to install in the development branch atm? bind9 package depends on older packages than what is in the repo it seems. Is it just the package information wrong or? :/
[18:31] <dr_willis> KINGOFSWORDS:  lilo wouldent affect the syystem so it boots to  just the login:
[18:31] <escott> !grub | KINGOFSWORDS
[18:31] <KINGOFSWORDS> dr_willis ok thx.... how do i get past bash cmd thing?
[18:31] <antihero> ok, got the system version. How do I find out what versions of a package are available.?
[18:32] <bil21al> i have forgetton my password how can i resolve this problem??
[18:32] <Pici> antihero: apt-cache show $package or apt-cache policy $package
[18:32] <KINGOFSWORDS> i reinstalled grub via live cd but still stuck at bash
[18:32] <escott> bil21al, boot the live cd, chroot yourself in and run passwd username
[18:33] <escott> KINGOFSWORDS, your terminology is confusing. are you really at bash or are you at grub rescue
[18:33] <eloystebam> spanish????
[18:33] <KINGOFSWORDS> escottim at black screen with sh:/grub>
[18:33] <escott> !es | eloystebam
[18:33] <dr_willis> KINGOFSWORDS:  what IS the prompt exactly saying? GRUB is not bash....
[18:34] <dr_willis> KINGOFSWORDS:  sounds like you need to boot a live cd and reinstall grub
[18:34] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[18:34] <KINGOFSWORDS> dr_willis i did that already
[18:34] <KINGOFSWORDS> says 'no partition active' at first
[18:34] <dr_willis> KINGOFSWORDS:  you missed a step or did somthing els3e wrong.
[18:35] <KINGOFSWORDS> dr_willisok it said it installed fine
[18:35] <Pat_Fail> I need help with ubuntu please
[18:35] <dr_willis> that measn it copied the stuff to the mbr fine.. your configs could still be messed up
[18:35] <dr_willis> !ask | Pat_Fail
[18:35] <engammalsko> How do I use php on my server? : )
[18:35] <KINGOFSWORDS> anyway i half installed lilo and said if i didnt finish it wouldnt boot properl
[18:35] <escott> KINGOFSWORDS, it clearly didn't try reinstalling grub. if you have two or more disks install grub to all mbrs
[18:35] <dr_willis> !php | engammalsko
[18:36] <Pat_Fail> !ask Computer will not boot from ubuntu live cd, comes up with about 12 errors
[18:36] <escott> Pat_Fail, what are the errors
[18:36] <Pat_Fail> !ask one second
[18:37] <engammalsko> dr_willis: isn't php installed when lamp-server is installed?
[18:37] <escott> Pat_Fail, please don't include !commands in your responses. you are confusing the bot
[18:37] <jnlsnl_> this might seems stupid, but when I install ubuntu on virtualbox and it tells me to format the disk, it can never effect my real system right?
[18:37] <Pat_Fail> the full line of the error?
[18:37] <escott> !paste | Pat_Fail
[18:38] <RA_drc> !language
[18:38] <escott> jnlsnl_, it shouldn't but you can verify by checking that the size of the disk is the size of the virtual partition you created in virtualbox and not the size of the real disk
[18:38] <RA_drc> !lol
[18:38] <RA_drc> !omg
[18:38] <ikonia> RA_drc: can we stop with the bot commands please ?
[18:38] <jnlsnl_> escott ok thanks :)
[18:38] <RA_drc> !ok
[18:39] <Pat_Fail> [ 1.619102] [<ffffffff81040733>] ? bad area nosemaphore+0x13/0x20
[18:39] <tsimpson> !botabuse | RA_drc
[18:39] <ikonia> RA_drc: please stop now. using ! infront of the word is triggering the bot
[18:39] <Pat_Fail> [ 1.619102] [<ffffffff81040733>] ? bad area nosemaphore+0x13/0x20
[18:39] <ikonia> Pat_Fail: you've said that
[18:40] <Pat_Fail> What does this mean
[18:40] <ikonia> Pat_Fail: it means there is a problem addressing a memory block
[18:40] <engammalsko> dr_willis: Are you there? : )
[18:40] <Pat_Fail> Theres multiple errors
[18:41] <Pat_Fail> let me type the other one
[18:41] <escott> Pat_Fail, run a memtest it is on the install cd
[18:42] <bytesaber_work> ah, i think half the ipod problem is that vmware is claiming the usb connection first before my desktop
[18:42] <jabba_> hello, any xinetd-/vnc-experts present? how do i prevent xinetd to kill my vnc-session if a client disconnects from it?
[18:42] <Pat_Fail> [ 1.619271] [<ffffffff815c34d5>] ? page_fault+0x25/0x30
[18:42] <ikonia> jabba_: you don't let xinetd manage it, you manage it outside xinetd
[18:42] <ikonia> Pat_Fail: again - memory problem
[18:42] <Pat_Fail> raw_spin_lock
[18:43] <Pat_Fail> Same problem?
[18:43] <jabba_> ikonia, but i want it to be managed by xinetd, the strange thing is, that it once worked on another machine :/
[18:43] <ikonia> jabba_: you're mistaken, xinetd launched on request, once you close that request xinet won't / can't keep it alive like that
[18:43] <Pat_Fail> raw_spin_lock error also
[18:44] <Pat_Fail> do_page_fault also
[18:44] <jabba_> ikonia, strange -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[18:44] <ikonia> Pat_Fail: it's a memory problem
[18:44] <escott> Pat_Fail, bad memory would be the first guess for all these
[18:45] <Pat_Fail> I installed a new graphics card and the memory goes bad?
[18:45] <jabba_> ikonia, trust me... it worked
[18:45] <jakemp> I need to build the 3.0 kernel for 11.04, are there any good resources for this?
[18:45] <ikonia> jakemp: no
[18:45] <jakemp> foo.
[18:45] <escott> jakemp, there is a vanilla kernel team, you could just get their debs
[18:46] <ikonia> jabba_: if you look at the options it's passing, it's not xinetd that's keeping it alive
[18:46] <Pat_Fail> how do I run a memtest if I cannot boot linux?
[18:46] <ikonia> Pat_Fail: you boot from the ubuntu CD which has memtest on it
[18:46] <Pat_Fail> It wont boot from the ubuntu cd
[18:46] <Pat_Fail> I told you that
[18:46] <sudokill> jakemp, is there any reason you need 3? i think you'd be better off sticking with proper ubuntu ones rather than compiling your own
[18:46] <jabba_> ikonia, but what?
[18:46] <ikonia> jabba_: but what ?
[18:47] <ikonia> Pat_Fail: then you have a hardware problem
[18:47] <jakemp> sudokill, I was talking with the folks in #intel-gfx, and they were saying that I needed 3.0 to get a stable setup on sandy bridge.
[18:47] <jabba_> but what is/should be keeping it alive
[18:47] <sudokill> jakemp, does it not work well with 2.6.38?
[18:47] <Pat_Fail> I tried changing the hard drive
[18:47] <ikonia> jabba_: it's running in daemon mode, it's it'sself keeping it alive, xinetd is only being used to launch on request
[18:47] <Pat_Fail> And it didn't fix it
[18:47] <jakemp> sudokill, no.
[18:47] <ikonia> Pat_Fail: it's a MEMORY problem
[18:47] <Pat_Fail> The ram is fucked up?
[18:47] <ikonia> Pat_Fail: control the language
[18:47] <Pat_Fail> screwed*
[18:48] <escott> Pat_Fail, you shouldn't need to boot it just get to the grub menu of the cd boot
[18:48] <jabba_> ikonia, you mean Xvnc's "-inetd" parameter? ...
[18:48] <ikonia> Pat_Fail: there is certainly something wrong with the memory, that doesn't mean it's the actual ram though, but most likley
[18:48] <jakemp> sudokill, I upgraded to 2.6.39 and the xorg edgers was briefly synced with it, but it was still unstable.
[18:48] <ikonia> jabba_: that's part of it yes,
[18:48] <devcow> hi there, i am using unity 11.04. When i press Windows Button and want to search for programs this doesnt work. anyone has this problem too?
[18:48] <ikonia> jabba_: when you disconnect the process shouldn't die
[18:48] <Pat_Fail> It shows the purplish screen with the keyboard in the bottom center and it gets an error immediately
[18:48] <jabba_> ikonia, it does in fact :(
[18:49] <ikonia> jabba_: well, that's nothing to do with xinetd, thats your vnc config
[18:49] <jabba_> ikonia, got this until now :)
[18:49] <jabba_> well
[18:50] <sudokill> jakemp, you could compile your own, and try it, the original ubuntu kernel will still be there so if it fails you can revert
[18:50] <sudokill> I'm not sure about oldconfig on different kernels though
[18:50] <Pat_Fail> @ikonia should I boot with memtest86(not linux version) and see if theres a problem?
[18:51] <jabba_> ikonia, other strange thing is ... if i launch Xvnc by hand (from command-promt of the user xinetd also uses, without -inetd parameter of course) it doesn't die on disconnect
[18:51] <sudokill> Or you'd have to go through all the settings manually
[18:51] <xTheGoat121x> Is there a way to make my laptop wake up from suspend when I open the lid?
[18:51] <jakemp> sudokill, yeah, I've never done a kernel before. I wish they continued packaging mainline kernels, but they moved all of the 3.0 up to oneric
[18:51] <escott> Pat_Fail, if you have a memtest cd i would run the test (also make sure you didn't knock the sticks lose when you installed the video card)
[18:51] <Pat_Fail> should I take out each stick of ram and reinstall it?
[18:52] <jakemp> Yeah, I am not looking forward to tweaking the config
[18:52] <sudokill> jakemp, doing a kernel isn't hard, but if you are doing it with no config from a vanilla kernel, you'd have to literally go through all the settings and spend time on it
[18:52] <jakemp> crap.
[18:52] <jakemp> where can I get an old config? /boot?
[18:52] <sudokill> e.g. i dont even think ext4 is enabled by default
[18:53] <sudokill> jakemp, im not sure if oldconfig will work
[18:53] <jakemp> =/
[18:53] <sudokill> jakemp, but cd into the linux3 dir and do zcat /proc/config.gz > .config
[18:53] <sudokill> that will put your existing config in the dir
[18:54] <jakemp> there is no /proc/config.gz
[18:54] <sudokill> ah ubuntu kernel probably doesnt use that option
[18:54] <sudokill> or copy the .config from /usr/src/linux to the new dir
[18:55] <sudokill> i really dont have much exp with going from ubuntu kernel to vanilla though, i dont really know the differences
[18:55] <ravi> hi does any body help me my vmplayer is broken after upgrading kernal version
[18:55] <ravi> ?
[18:55] <KINGOFSWORDS> omg got my ubuntu back....by doing exactly same thing i did previously
[18:55] <shockrates> !find libwx_gtk2u_core-2.8.so.0
[18:56] <sudokill> jakemp, id seriously stick with the official ubuntu kernel though
[18:56] <ravi> hi I am new to this?
[18:56] <jakemp> it's 3.0, or no 3D graphics.
[18:57] <escott> jakemp, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/
[18:57] <Maestr055> good evening
[18:57] <engammalsko> Hi, I wanna acces a folder (var/www) With a normal user instead of root. How do I do this?
[18:57] <ravi> please help some to use vmplayer which is broken  after upgrading kernal version?
[18:58] <mneptok> ravi: boot the older kernel?
[18:58] <ravi> mneptok could you tell how to do that?
[18:58] <mneptok> ravi: VMware modules are kernel-specific. if not new package for the modules exists for a new kernel, it will not work.
[18:58] <engammalsko> I changed permission, I can't still add files to the folde.r
[18:58] <invlpg[1]> where's /etc/inittab? i tried locating it using locate and it's not there. where is the file that ubuntu is using for start up apps?
[18:59] <ravi> mneptok oh k
[18:59] <mneptok> ravi: press <esc> on boot to get the GRUB menu and choose a previous kernel
[18:59] <escott> engammalsko, you could add the group of the folder you want to access to the groups of the user you want to access with
[18:59] <ravi> k k thank you mneptok
[18:59] <escott> !permissions | engammalsko
[18:59] <Pici> !upstart | invlpg[1]
[19:00] <Pici> invlpg[1]: see the contents of /etc/init/
[19:00] <mneptok> engammalsko: what user do you want to be able to write to www?
[19:00] <invlpg[1]> Pici, thank you, i'll look at it and hopefully come back with no questions :)
[19:00] <Maestr055> I recently updated from 10.10 to 11.04 and have a problem while booting, stays on a black screen, tried several things, all packages are up to date. Have an nVidia GT8800. I've tried the ACPI=No in the grub. I can boot to Ubuntu just fine if I do a safe boot in Failsafe X and do a restart x. Thoughts?
[19:01] <tmbg> switch to nv or nvidia driver instead of nouveau
[19:01] <Maestr055> I have the current nvidia driver installed
[19:01] <Maestr055> how can I get the installed version from terminal?
[19:01] <sudokill> Maestr055, maybe try uninstall it, see if it boots, if it does then reinstall it
[19:02] <Maestr055> *the installed nvidia driver I mean
[19:02] <tmbg> dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[19:02] <jabba_> ikonia, this is the output if i start Xvnc by hand and connect, disconnect and connect again
[19:02] <jabba_> http://pastebin.de/17395
[19:02] <Maestr055> 270.29
[19:02] <Maestr055> or actually 270.41.06
[19:03] <jabba_> everything fine
[19:03] <jabba_> :(
[19:03] <Maestr055> I'll try the uninstall method, hopefully I'll brb :D
[19:03] <_otherside_> alguém sabe de um programa bom para manipular o squid
[19:03] <jabba_> ikonia, in xinetd i have the same server_args + "-inetd"
[19:03] <Maestr055> tx btw
[19:04] <engammalsko> mneptok:  Okay, I can create files in the folder now. But not edit them in gedit.
[19:04] <hotrod> hi people, can i use barcode printer in ubuntu ? http://www.barkodotomasyon.net/tr/resimler/barkodyazicilar/Argox-OS-203DT_1.jpg if i can use this barcode printer, i will install 30 computer ubuntu. but i afraid because i search little bit and i think this product producer have no linux driver. is there any way to make it work this barcode printer in ubuntu ? thanks
[19:04] <engammalsko> mneptok: But that doesn't matter : ) I just deleted them and now I can use the folder with my normal user :D
[19:05] <mneptok> engammalsko: alright. although that's not the question i asked.
[19:05] <jabba_> ikonia, the whole thing is also going through xdm (xdmcp). may that be a possible error source?
[19:05] <escott> !es | _otherside_
[19:05] <oCean> !br | _otherside_
[19:05] <bytesaber_work> fyi, Banshee is able to play the music from my ipod
[19:05] <Maestr055> just so I know I get this right, I use synaptic to do a complete removal of:
[19:05] <Maestr055> nvidia-173
[19:05] <Maestr055> nvidia-current
[19:05] <Maestr055> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[19:05] <Maestr055> xserver-xorg-video-nv
[19:05] <FloodBot1> Maestr055: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:05] <Maestr055> correct?
[19:06] <sjbrown> can anyone point me in the right direction for this problem:  I want to make a "daemon" that runs in the context of a desktop session.
[19:06] <sjbrown> that is, it doesn't start running until a user is logged in, and it sleeps or turns off when a user logs out
[19:06] <sudokill> Maestr055, im not sure if all that manual stuff is necessary
[19:06] <sudokill> try just doing it from the additional drivers screen
[19:06] <mneptok> sjbrown: look at how gnome-settings-daemon works
[19:06] <Maestr055> I've tried both the 173 and current ones
[19:06] <escott> sjbrown,  just add it to gnome-session-properties
[19:06] <Maestr055> and both kept me hanging on the black screen
[19:07] <sudokill> Maestr055, does dmesg say anything
[19:07] <sjbrown> is it gnome-specific or is there some standard?
[19:07] <Maestr055> my settings window won't respond for some strange reason
[19:07] <Maestr055> dmesg?
[19:07] <sudokill> if you type dmesg it usually tells you errors
[19:07] <Maestr055> in terminal it says a great deal
[19:08] <sudokill> try pasting it i may or may not be able to help
[19:08] <Maestr055> if I paste that I'll be auto-flood-muted until next week!
[19:08] <sudokill> maestro no link to the paste
[19:08] <sudokill> like pastebin etc
[19:08] <Maestr055> ah, right, jussasec
[19:08] <gisli> anybody know a good command to 'tone down' my father in law?
[19:08] <brainwave92> what is father in law?
[19:08] <sudokill> sudo chillpill
[19:08] <gisli> *mother
[19:08] <jemadux> do anybody now how to make dash some other leght and weight ?
[19:09] <oCean> gisli: please stay on topic
[19:09] <brainwave92> mother in law?
[19:09] <brainwave92> what is that?
[19:09] <oCean> brainwave92: nevermind, it's offtopic
[19:09] <brainwave92> oCean, nothing related to linux itself?
[19:09] <oCean> brainwave92: correct
[19:09] <Maestr055> sudokill: any preferred syntax highlighting?
[19:09] <hotrod> hi people, can i use barcode printer in ubuntu ? http://www.barkodotomasyon.net/tr/resimler/barkodyazicilar/Argox-OS-203DT_1.jpg if i can use this barcode printer, i will install 30 computer ubuntu. but i afraid because i search little bit and i think this product producer have no linux driver. is there any way to make it work this barcode printer in ubuntu ? thanks
[19:10] <sudokill> maestro no just paste it, or if you can install wgetpaste its easier- dmesg | wgetpaste
[19:10] <sudokill> it will make a link for you
[19:10] <escott> sjbrown, each user controls their own session. but you can add stuff to start when your session starts and it will terminate when your session ends
[19:10] <Pici> sudokill: wgetpaste is not in the repositories (unless it goes by another package name), pastebinit is in the repositories
[19:11] <brainwave92> hotrod, can you give some link for the product specs rather than an image?
[19:11] <sudokill> ah ok, sorry
[19:11] <Maestr055> http://pastebin.com/1qsiDJ4W
[19:12] <Maestr055> sudokill: that link work ok?
[19:13] <sudokill> yes
[19:14] <brainwave92> hotrod, can you give the make and model no?
[19:15] <sudokill> Maestr055, i cant see any errors.
[19:15] <sudokill> Maestr055, try uninstalling the driver and reboot see if it boots
[19:15] <sudokill> maybe its not the nvidia
[19:16] <Maestr055> ok, is there a way to enable logging on boot so I can see where it hangs before I press ctrl-alt-del?
[19:16] <Abhijit> whre is the command histroy of terminal stored?
[19:16] <dr_willis> jemadux:  theres numerous tweaks and things for unity - ive seen several mentioned at the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites. proberly otehr sites as well
[19:16] <dr_willis> Abhijit:  ,history file i think
[19:16] <oCean> Abhijit: ~/.bash_history
[19:16] <io> Abhijit: .bash_history
[19:16] <jemadux> dr_willis: thanks
[19:16] <dr_willis> its only written to it - when bash exits.
[19:16] <sudokill> Maestr055, if you can, try pressing ctrl shift and left arrow
[19:16] <Maestr055> (I'm guessing in the bash_history ;) )
[19:16] <sudokill> Maestr055, no bash history is commands you typed
[19:17] <Maestr055> yeah, I was making a joke, uninstalling now
[19:17] <hotrod> brainwave92: http://www.argox.com/content.php?sno=0000067&P_ID=19 this is product that we think buy
[19:17] <Abhijit> ]O.o
[19:17] <rajat123> i need hlp
[19:17] <Abhijit> dr_willis, oCean io thanks!
[19:17] <Abhijit> rajat123, ask!
[19:17] <Maestr055> rebooting, brb
[19:18] <Ether_Man> Could whoever is responsible please fix the Bind9 packages? The libs have been updated in the repos but the main packages hasnt (oneiric)...  bind9 and bind9-utils package require the libs in version 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu2   while the repos contain 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1ubuntu2.1
[19:19] <dr_willis> Ether_Man:  file a bug report perhaps? we have no controll of that stuff here.
[19:19] <rajat123> hm....i hv ubuntu installd alongside windows 7....bt i hd some prb so i hd 2 uninstall ubuntu. now i hv a 10.04 version iso file. how cn i use wubi 2 install using dis iso file??
[19:19] <soreau> ! oneiric | Ether_Man
[19:20] <dr_willis> rajat123:  put the file in the same place as the wubi.exe I think and it will see it..  or have wubi download the iso. and stop the download. then copy the full iso over the partial.. personally I suggest NOT using wubi at all.
[19:20] <jimmy51_> my boot is failing to busybox.  there were errors in the text while booting but they were too fast to see. what can i do to see that text?
[19:20] <jimmy51_> dmesg doesn't seem to show the same stuff
[19:20] <brainwave92_> jimmy51_, you can use the alternative login screen
[19:20] <mneptok> jimmy51_: try /var/log/messages
[19:20] <rajat123> dr_willis : den wt shuld i use in place f wubi?
[19:21] <mneptok> rajat123: please type complete words.
[19:21] <Ether_Man> dr_willis, one would imagine that someone responsible for a repo for a dist, be in the supportchannel for it or atleast someone that knows who that could forward. As for filing a bugreport seems to be useless as the last who tried doing that was basicly intructed to uninstall the bind9 package that was installed and closed the bug.
[19:21] <dr_willis> rajat123:  i suggest doing a normal install. or using ubuntu in virtualbox.. ive just seen SO many people in here with wubi disasters.
[19:21] <rajat123> mneptok: Sorry!
[19:21] <brainwave92_> dr_willis, disasters like?
[19:22] <dr_willis> Ether_Man:  you are usign 11.10 ?
[19:22] <rajat123> dr_willis: dt means i wil have to remove windows rite?
[19:22] <brainwave92_> rajat123, not at all!
[19:22] <jimmy51_> mneptok: hmm.. nothing under var other than a "lock" folder
[19:22] <jimmy51_> both look empty
[19:22] <dr_willis> rajat123:  not at all.. You can repartition and have linux alongside windows.. thats how most people do it.
[19:22] <jimmy51_> (this is in busybox shell)
[19:22] <Ether_Man> dr_willis, yes.
[19:23] <dr_willis> Ether_Man:  then you need to go to #ubuntu+1
[19:23] <hotrod> brainwave92: http://www.argox.com/content.php?sno=0000067&P_ID=19 this is product that we think buy
[19:23] <Galaxor> Hi.  I just started using unity for the first time.  I used the "Keyboard shortcuts" app.  Some of the shortcuts I set don't work.  I want Alt+Space to be "Run Application" (default is Alt+F2).  I changed "Open Window Menu" from Alt+Space to Alt+Shift+Space.  Window menu works, but Alt+Space does nothing.
[19:23] <Pat_Fail> !ask memtest86 reporting 300k+ errors with my memory
[19:23] <Ether_Man> dr_willis, so soreau said yes and I am. Wasnt aware it had its own channel :)
[19:24] <qdii> hey, I just retrieved the computer from a friend of mine who was running Ubuntu and his disk appears to be ciphered. is it using LUKS ?
[19:24] <ikonia> Pat_Fail: what do you want us to do about it ? you've been told you have a problem with your member
[19:24] <ikonia> memory
[19:24] <sudokill> Pat_Fail, have you overclocked your cpu or ram?
[19:24] <dr_willis> 11.10 is in alpha stage.. breakage is expected.
[19:24] <Pat_Fail> I overclocked it before but reset the bios back to default
[19:24] <Galaxor> In fact, I set Run Application to Alt+Space, but Alt+F2 is still how to open it.
[19:24] <Pat_Fail> I only overclocked it to the standard setting of the ram
[19:24] <sudokill> Pat_Fail, ok, new ram is what you need
[19:24] <rajat123> dr_willis: cn i partition using the live cd? actualy wen i run wubi....it strts downloadng some 'lucid' version.
[19:24] <s-cream> after installed ubuntu 11.04 with raid 0 and reboot i got this black screen and blinking cursor.... any helpful recommendations???
[19:24] <Galaxor> Is unity ignoring these gnome settings?   After reboot I didn't even get to the splash screen, same black screen. I did a recovery boot > failsafe x > restart x again and now I lost Unity, but I guess that's because I don't have the nvid driver anymore.
[19:26] <Abhijit> Pat_Fail, you may want to try asking in ##hardware
[19:26] <brylie> Pat_Fail: you may have un-seated your ram during installation, released static electricity that damaged the ram, or something else.
[19:26] <sudokill> Maestr055, yea you wont have unity with default driver afaik. Sorry but i cant see errors in your dmesg :s I have no clue what to suggest
[19:26] <rajat123> dr_willis: cn i partition using the live cd? actualy wen i run wubi....it strts downloadng some 'lucid' version.
[19:27] <sudokill> Maestr055, if it's not too much of a problem you could backup files and do a clean install
[19:27] <Maestr055> ok, how do I make it so I can see what it's doing when booting instead of the splash?
[19:27] <Abhijit> Maestr055, press esc
[19:27] <Maestr055> I tried the liveCD version (from USB stick) but that had the same black screen problem
[19:27] <rajat123> dr_willis: i cnt partition. cn u hlp me with wubi?
[19:27] <Maestr055>  esc didn't work for me :/
[19:27] <Abhijit> ok
[19:27] <Maestr055> it did while I still had 10.10 though, thx for the suggestion though
[19:27] <brianherman> hello does anyone know how to restore the unity menu bar i instaled gnome 3 and it fucked it
[19:28] <ikonia> brianherman: control your language please
[19:28] <brianherman> sory
[19:28] <s-cream> Maestr055: do you have raid???
[19:28] <Maestr055> you'll get auto-kicked for that particular turn of phrase :)
[19:28] <Maestr055> nope, no raid
[19:28] <rajat123> Abhijit: Can u hlp please?
[19:28] <dr_willis> rajat123:  You have the lucid wubi installer then.. go get  a newer wuibi installer.. or do a normal install.. whatever you perfer to do.
[19:28] <brianherman> sorry for the language
[19:28] <s-cream> i got a blank screen too.... :-(((
[19:28] <dr_willis> rajat123:  i dont use wubi.. and you DONT need to partuiton when you use wubi
[19:28] <brianherman> do I have to reinsatll ubuntu?
[19:28] <Abhijit> rajat123, see what dr_willis is saying. i do not know your issue.
[19:29] <sudokill> Maestr055, sorry i have no other clues :(
[19:29] <Maestr055> s-cream: do you have an nvidia card?
[19:29] <Maestr055> np sudokill thanks for the help
[19:29] <brianherman> is there a way to reinstall unity?
[19:29] <s-cream> Maestr055: onboard nvidia, yes
[19:29] <Maestr055> there's no grub setting that might let me always see what it's doing?
[19:29] <Maestr055> s-cream: try uninstalling the nvidia drivers in your additional drivers
[19:29] <Maestr055> seemed to help me get a bit further
[19:30] <Maestr055> if it doesn't work, you can always re-install them :)
[19:30] <sudokill> Maestr055, try ctrl alt left arrow it should give you messages
[19:30] <brianherman> :(
[19:30] <Maestr055> ah, you said ctrl-shift-left before, iirc
[19:30] <sudokill> oh did i sorry
[19:30] <s-cream> Maestr055: it doesn't even show that there are some installed.... oh man i read 499 blog posts, i can't get further
[19:30] <Maestr055> no worries :)
[19:30] <rajat123> dr_willis: is it nyhow possible dat the newer version of wubi wil install using my 10.04 iso image wich i already have?
[19:31] <dr_willis> rajat123:  newer  version of wubi.. will want the newer ISO files....
[19:31] <Maestr055> s-cream: do the ctrl-alt-left trick and see where it hangs
[19:31] <Maestr055> maybe google on that and might find an answer
[19:31] <dr_willis> rajat123:  I dont use wubi.. so it may be possible to force it.. the iso SHOULD have a wubi.exe on it..
[19:31] <s-cream> Maestr055: mom.... just reinstalling again
[19:31] <dr_willis> rajat123:  burn the iso or open it somehow. and use that wubi if you really want to.
[19:31] <dr_willis> good luck with wubi.. you will need it. :)
[19:32] <TrevInc> !fortune
[19:32] <Maestr055> s-cream: I'm going to try the experimental driver, hadn't tried that one before
[19:32] <Maestr055> maybe I should fire up my other computer so I can keep typing here
[19:32] <Maestr055> no help for that now, bbiab
[19:32] <rajat123> dr_willis: oh yeah! got it. thanks a lot dr_willis! really appreciated your help!
[19:32] <sudokill> Maestr055, you shouldnt need to try experimental if you've tried 2 nvidias and the nouveau one
[19:32] <s-cream> Maestr055: i got no display driver problem... it's my raid... i need a boot partition... seems i am too dumb
[19:32] <sudokill> i really dont think thatll help
[19:33] <Maestr055> hadn't tried the nouveau one
[19:33] <sudokill> i think thats the default one with no nvidia installed
[19:33] <sudokill> the kernel driver
[19:33] <dr_willis> Noevau ior somthing like that.
[19:33] <Maestr055> I updated from 10.10, it already had the nvidia driver installed
[19:33] <dr_willis> I never can spell it right
[19:33] <Maestr055> nouveau?
[19:33] <sudokill> nouveau :s
[19:33] <sudokill> idk i dont do french
[19:33] <Maestr055> glad I had some french classes in high school :)
[19:33] <rrn> The /home/<user> directory became corrupted; could I mv all of its files to a different directory and re-login?
[19:33] <Maestr055> sudokill: don't tell your gf
[19:34] <stercor> I am _not_ trolling, or starting a flame war, but did Ubuntu choose LibreOffice over OpenOffice because OpenOffice´s status was in question at the time Ubuntu made the decision>
[19:34] <dr_willis> rrn:  if the FILESYSTEM became currupted. you should backup and fsck the filesystem.
[19:34] <sudokill> Maestr055, would a reinstall be a real pain for you?
[19:34] <Maestr055> stercor:  in my experience, starting a sentence that way tells us you are
[19:34] <Maestr055> sudokill: yes
[19:34] <Maestr055> it's on a shared hard drive
[19:34] <Maestr055> and I don't want to mess with deleting partitions to get rid of everything
[19:35] <dr_willis> stercor:  ask that on askubuntu.com
[19:35] <rrn> dr_willis: It's not FS corruption, just the actual files were inadvertently tampered with.
[19:35] <Maestr055> also, do you know how long it took me to download my dropbox files!?
[19:35] <stercor> dr_willis: Ok.
[19:35] <dr_willis> rrn:   so i dont see the point of you moving things..
[19:35] <szal> stercor: no, because like most other distros *buntu used Go-OO before, and LO is the logical continuation of Go-OO, only w/o the trademark
[19:35] <dr_willis> rrn:  you want to temparly clean out the home dir? thats doable of course.
[19:35] <Maestr055> how do I restart my desktop session?
[19:35] <rrn> dr_willis: The desktop environment cannot be used.
[19:36] <dr_willis> rrn:  theres numerous config files you can delete to 'reset' it back to defaults.  or just move all the files I guess.
[19:36] <sudokill> Maestr055, im not sure actually, try ctrl alt f7 then do startx
[19:36] <dr_willis> Maestr055:  sudo service gdm start (or restart) is common
[19:37] <dan-work> stercor: I'm just guessing here, maybe it was due to the fact that openoffice sucks hard
[19:37] <qdii> does anyone know which encryption is used by Ubuntu by default?
[19:37] <stercor> szal: Thanks.
[19:37] <Maestr055> oh man
[19:37] <stercor> dan-work: Thank you for your opinion.
[19:37] <Maestr055> sudokill: next time, tell me the combo to get back first!
[19:37] <dr_willis> qdii:  encryption where?
[19:37] <Maestr055> hang on, kid crying
[19:37] <krger> Renice it.
[19:38] <rrn> dr_willis: I had to login as a different user, rm my .bashrc and create a shortcut to /usr/bin/gnome-terminal because otherwise I could not launch any applications and if I could run the terminal, it would not be able to find [, ls, cat, etc.
[19:38] <qdii> it uses lvm partitions that seem to be encrypted
[19:38] <szal> dan-work: if OOo does, then LO does too, so what's your point?
[19:38] <qdii> /dev/vg_hera/lv_home, for instance
[19:38] <qdii> but I can't seem to mount it right with LUKS
[19:38] <Galaxor> .wc
[19:38] <seth_> hello
[19:38] <Fonotec> hello
[19:39] <rrn> dr_willis: What probably happened was I inadvertently extracted the image of an embedded device onto /home.
[19:39] <Maestr055> crisis averted
[19:39] <seth__> how do you stop the notifications?
[19:39] <sudokill> :)
[19:39] <stercor> szal: It´s a nice day, isn´t it?
[19:39] <Maestr055> now back the current crisis
[19:39] <Maestr055> ctrl-alt-F3 is the combo to get back, right?
[19:39] <Maestr055> I couldn't type anything in ctrl-alt-f7
[19:39] <dan-work> szal: Why's that? They are completely separate projects are they not?
[19:40] <sudokill> Maestr055, i think f7 is the default x window
[19:40] <Maestr055> I'll try dr_willis suggestion
[19:41] <acts_as> Hi, is there a way to install (through apt) a newer version of HAProxy (1.4.X) on Ubuntu 10.04.2?
[19:41] <acts_as> I just want that single newer package, without upgrading the whole box.
[19:41] <sudokill> acts_as, sudo apt-get install
[19:41] <sudokill> the package
[19:41] <acts_as> sudokill: That installs 1.3.X
[19:42] <sudokill> sudo apt-get update first?
[19:42] <beachbuddah> hi all, I have a few files that are owned by root and they won
[19:42] <acts_as> sudokill: I did.  Still 1.3
[19:42] <beachbuddah> 't let me delete them - how do I pull that off?
[19:42] <keithb1> I think acts_as wants a "testing" package
[19:42] <sudokill> acts_as, is the newer version even in the repos?
[19:42] <brylie> 1.4 might not be available in the Ubuntu repository.
[19:43] <acts_as> sudokill: Yeah, it's in 10.10 I believe.
[19:43] <TrevInc> beachbuddah: gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator
[19:44] <acts_as> keithb1: How would I install a testing package?
[19:44] <acts_as> keithb1: Or where would I find the info on that?
[19:44] <sindikat_> hi all! can somebody advice me on good computer-assisted translator tool? i'm translating tons of text (content, not software) like articles and need some good software for that
[19:44] <acts_as> Sorry for the limited knowledge there
[19:44] <sudokill> acts_as, any reason you dont want to upgrade your whole system? does the newer package show up in update manager?
[19:45] <sudokill> sindikat_, google translate?
[19:45] <sudokill> sindikat_, or try a search for translate in the software centre
[19:45] <beachbuddah> TREvInc - 'error removing file: permission denied
[19:45] <TrevInc> hm
[19:46] <TrevInc> what are you trying to remove?
[19:46] <sindikat_> sudokill, i mean like virtaal or omegat
[19:46] <beachbuddah> they were recovered files via photorec
[19:46] <Maestr055> ok, remind me not to follow dr_w...'s suggestions anymore :)
[19:46] <Maestr055> it booted up this time though! ctrl-alt-left worked as well
[19:46] <sudokill> did it say anything?
[19:46] <acts_as> sudokill: Someone else manages the ubuntu images etc.  These systems are deployed in AWS, and built from Chef.  So a full system upgrade probably isn't "ideal"
[19:47] <acts_as> sudokill: I really just wish there was some sort of testing / "you're on your own" apt repo.
[19:47] <Maestr055> the automatic crash detection (I think, it's been a long week) failed, other than that, seemed just fine
[19:47] <Pici> acts_as: You might be able to find a PPA that has the updated package, or build it from source.
[19:47] <Maestr055> (assuming you were asking me, sudokill)
[19:47] <oCean> acts_as: PPA's are for exactly that
[19:47] <acts_as> What are the PPAs?
[19:47] <sudokill> Maestr055, yes. well with no errors i really have no clue :(
[19:47] <Pici> acts_as: Or build your own PPA if you have the knowhow.
[19:47] <oCean> acts_as: but be aware that those are not supported 3rd repositories
[19:47] <oCean> !ppa | acts_as
[19:47] <Maestr055> no worries, sudokill, I have a working work-around
[19:47] <Maestr055> thanks very much for your help
[19:48] <acts_as> Cool, thank you.  We might have a PPA setup.  Lemme investigate.
[19:48] <Maestr055> question: in Unity if you type it gives suggestions, how do you make it run the first "hit" on enter instead of having to select it?
[19:48] <sudokill> Maestr055, its ok.
[19:48] <outerlimtz> quick question, would it be ubuntu itself or programs like Banshee, songbird that duplicates song files when importing an album? it not only duplicates in the program list of music, but also duplicates on the hard drive as well
[19:48] <Maestr055> sudokill:  glad to hear it, I was kinda assuming it since you were in this channel and responding :D
[19:48] <coda__> hi there!
[19:49] <brylie> outerlimtz, it would be the music software.
[19:49] <coda__> excuse me guys, I'm trying to pair a bluetooth keyboard+mouse using blueman, but when I enter the passkey on my keyboard, it just doesn't work and I see the following message in my syslog file: " kernel: [  525.144605] l2cap_recv_acldata: Frame is too long (len 16, expected len 8)".. does anybody know what could be wrong?
[19:49] <TheHopeBuster> Hi all
[19:49] <outerlimtz> ok, thanks.
[19:50] <coda__> (btw, I'm using ubuntu 11.04)
[19:51] <TheHopeBuster> i have trouble with
[19:51] <Product> Hey guys.
[19:51] <TheHopeBuster> hy
[19:52] <Product> I want to install Ubuntu on my computer, but I want to ask you a few stuff first.
[19:52] <Product> When I install it, does I loose everything on my pc ?
[19:52] <TheHopeBuster> no
[19:52] <Product> Like photo's, programs, etc ?
[19:52] <sudokill> Product, you get the option to choose partitions
[19:52] <Product> Partitions ?
[19:52] <TheHopeBuster> you can use the free space on your laptop
[19:52] <sudokill> Product, you can leave a partiton there
[19:52] <Product> Oh, things I want to keep you mean.
[19:53] <TheHopeBuster> yes
[19:53] <sudokill> Product, you might only have 1 partition. the drives can be divided up into small sections (partitons)
[19:53] <Product> Oh ok, thanks guys also other thing.
[19:53] <TheHopeBuster> coz
[19:53] <Product> Oooh ok Sudokill :)
[19:53] <Product> Can I also have more options to switch to Windows back.
[19:53] <TheHopeBuster> ubuntu can setup the partition on installation
[19:53] <Product> In any time ?
[19:53] <jemadux> can someone take one photo of me hackergotchi ?
[19:53] <jo-erlend> uh... Is it not possible in 11.04 to run more than 4 instances of Nautilus at a time?
[19:53] <sudokill> Product, yes, you can just format the drive and install windows back on it
[19:54] <Product> Sudokill: Yes, but I mean if it is possible to have 2 OS on the same time.
[19:54] <sudokill> yes
[19:54] <Maestr055> sudokill:  you must work in a helpdesk to have thought of giving that information about the partition :)
[19:54] <Product> Windows XP OS, and Ubuntu.
[19:54] <TheHopeBuster> or you can make dualboot
[19:54] <sudokill> Product, is windows already on the drive?
[19:54] <TheHopeBuster> yea
[19:54] <Product> SudoKill: Yes.
[19:54] <sudokill> ok thats easier then
[19:54] <IRsee> Is there a way to make a dd copy of a LVM?
[19:54] <TheHopeBuster> it automally
[19:54] <Product> Sudo: Nice :)
[19:54] <Product> SudoKill: But my friends told me that you can't open all programs.
[19:55] <sudokill> you need to make a partition for ubuntu, then install ubuntu on that. the ubuntu bootloader will overwrite windows one and you can choose between both
[19:55] <sudokill> Product, you wont be able to open any of your windows programs, from ubuntu
[19:55] <Product> Sudokill: Oh.
[19:55] <vi> #centos
[19:55] <Maestr055> Product: you can still open your files though, probably
[19:55] <Product> Sudokill: Is there any way to open them ?
[19:55] <sudokill> Product, no they are different operating systems
[19:56] <Maestr055> sudokill:  with WINE he might?
[19:56] <Product> But they told me there is a program that makes you able to open them.
[19:56] <sudokill> Product, i thought you were dual booting anyway?
[19:56] <Product> Yeah Wine
[19:56] <sudokill> Product, yes wine
[19:56] <Maestr055> drink a lot of it!
[19:56] <Product> Dual booting ?
[19:56] <Maestr055> the cheaper the better
[19:56] <CodyThibault> Any free to help a newbie? >.<
[19:56] <Maestr055> then you THINK you'll have opened it
[19:56] <CodyThibault> wireless issue. :P
[19:56] <jo-erlend> Product, it's very easy to have Windows and Ubuntu installed side by side. Specially if you already have Windows installed. You can run many programs designed for Windows in Ubuntu, but not all of them, and you must install them in Ubuntu. You cannot use the installed version from Windows directly.
[19:56] <sudokill> Product, dual booting is having 2 operating systems on same drive
[19:56] <Product> With Wine, I can open any program I want ? For example a VB.Net program ?
[19:56] <Product> Ooh that's a cool thing.
[19:56] <TheHopeBuster> LOL
[19:57] <Product> I can choose what OS I want on startup ?
[19:57] <sudokill> Product, i have never used wine, but it usually works. i think some programs have problems
[19:57] <Maestr055> http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=what+can+I+open+with+WINE+in+ubuntu%3F
[19:57] <Product> Oh ok :)
[19:57] <Product> SudoKill: Oh ok :)
[19:57] <Maestr055> for instance: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/wine
[19:57] <sudokill> Product, when you install ubuntu, when it boots you should be able to select windows from a list when it starts up
[19:57] <jo-erlend> Product, you cannot run all Windows applications using wine, but many. It's popular to run games, etc.
[19:57] <Product> Thanks very much :)
[19:58] <Product> But is there an option I can choose between Windows OS and Ubuntu on start up of the computer ?
[19:58] <sudokill> yes like i said
[19:58] <Maestr055> Product: there should be, yes
[19:58] <TheHopeBuster> Who Using Backtrack?
[19:58] <Product> Oh ok :)
[19:58] <CodyThibault> Can anyone tell me what  a BSSID is, and how to get wireless working with Lubuntu?
[19:58]  * hotrod is away: Gone away for now
[19:58] <sudokill> TheHopeBuster, as a main OS?
[19:58] <Product> Do you recommend me using it then guys ?
[19:58] <gionnico> hi
[19:58] <Product> I think Linux is cool :)
[19:58] <jo-erlend> Product, using what?
[19:59] <Product> Ununtu
[19:59] <Product> Ubuntu*
[19:59] <Maestr055> ...
[19:59] <jo-erlend> Product, of course.
[19:59] <Maestr055> why ask here?
[19:59] <sudokill> Product, you can try it by loading up the cd and not installing it, and play around with it it wont cause any harm at all
[19:59] <Maestr055> ask in #windows :D
[19:59] <Product> Ok :)
[19:59] <Pici> Product: I suggest you try the Live CD out for a while, and if you don't like it then don't use it.
[19:59] <Pici> Maestr055: Thats not helpful.
[19:59] <Product> Ok :)
[19:59] <Product> How can I try a CD.
[19:59] <gionnico> i've installed ubuntu 11.04. then i installed compizconfig-setting-manager. then I enabled cube desktop. metacity decorator disappeared. so I enabled decorator (compiz-decorator)
[19:59] <Product> I mean.
[19:59] <jo-erlend> Maestr055, they even recommend Ubuntu from time to time in ##Windows. :)
[19:59] <Product> I use a CD.
[19:59] <gionnico> *now I dont want cube anymore but metacity doesnt start so my windows don't have borders*
[20:00] <Product> I have to use an empty CD, right ?
[20:00] <sudokill> Product, just boot from the ubuntu cd. you will be able to use it (but not store anything permanently) and also it will be very very low compared to a proper install
[20:00] <Maestr055> I stand corrected, I was trying to convey an understanding of the importance of asking the right question in the right place
[20:00] <TheHopeBuster> sudokill, Sorry
[20:00] <Product> Oh ok :)
[20:00] <gionnico> how the heck is metacity started in a "ubuntu classic" GNOME session ?
[20:00] <Maestr055> heh, I bet they do, jo-
[20:00] <jo-erlend> Product, right. Or a memory stick or memory card.
[20:00] <Product> Ok, I'll use an USB, is it good ?
[20:00] <Product> Ok, I'll use Memory Stick.
[20:00] <sudokill> Product, usb is normally faster than cd especially booting up
[20:00] <Product> Ok :)
[20:00] <jo-erlend> gionnico, how metacity is started? metacity --replace?
[20:01] <Maestr055> Product: I use this tool to make a bootable USB: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[20:01] <Product> How many GB's does it has to be ?
[20:01] <Product> 2 ?
[20:01] <gionnico> jo-erlend: and where is this line? what file?
[20:01] <Maestr055> works just fine with Ubuntu, 2 GB should be enough
[20:01] <sudokill> Product, i think 1GB as the cd is 700mb
[20:01] <jo-erlend> gionnico, ah. You want to edit the sessions?
[20:01] <gionnico> i mean metacity --replace & works from terminal but it isnt started automatically!
[20:01] <Product> Ooh ok :)
[20:01] <Product> I want to ask if someone can also just help me via TeamViewer.
[20:01] <gionnico> jo-erlend: i dont know i just know that since i enabled cube desktop then disabled it metacity isnt starting anymore
[20:01] <Product> To install it on Memory Stick.
[20:01] <gionnico> i want to restore previous behaviour
[20:01] <Product> I would be pleased :)
[20:02] <jo-erlend> Product, it's really very easy. I don't think you'll need any help once you've gotten it onto your usb stick or cd.
[20:02] <Product> Ok :)
[20:02] <Product> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[20:02] <Product> This right ?
[20:02] <Maestr055> Product: just try http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ it really is very straightforward
[20:02] <Product> Oh ok.
[20:02] <jo-erlend> gionnico, metacity doesn't support "cubes" and such though?
[20:02] <Maestr055> yes, download the 32-bit 11.04 version
[20:02] <sudokill> Product, yes. a cd is probably easier to do if you havent got a clue (no offense)
[20:02] <Product> I just wanted someone in TV with me, incase I do something wrong.
[20:03] <jo-erlend> Maestr055, I think Ubuntus own is better.
[20:03] <gionnico> i disabled cube desktop but metacity didnt come back!
[20:03] <Maestr055> but unetbootin can do that for you as well
[20:03] <Maestr055> jo-erlend: not familiar with that one
[20:03] <Product> Don't worry Sudo, :)
[20:03] <sudokill> Product, i think youll find ubuntu as easy to install as windows it has a nice big plain UI
[20:03] <gionnico> io have a problem: my windows dont have borders when i log in gdm
[20:03] <Product> I know I don't have much experience.
[20:03] <Maestr055> I know for a fact that unetbootin worked for me
[20:03] <Product> Ok :)
[20:03] <Product> Ubuntu has a cool GUI ?
[20:03] <gionnico> and this happens since i tried cube desktop. even if i disable cube desktop windows wont have borders at login
[20:03] <andrejpan> i have one problem, my encoding is charset=unknown-8bit and because of that some letters are not shown correctly, how do I change this to utf8?
[20:03] <TheHopeBuster> yeah
[20:03] <Product> Cool :)
[20:03] <sudokill> Product, yea the gui is nice and big and neat
[20:03] <Maestr055> oh, I did try their own one, that didn't work for me
[20:04] <Product> You know, I don't want to use a small box like CMD.
[20:04] <Product> Typing commands there.
[20:04] <sudokill> ok g2g dinner
[20:04] <Maestr055> I thought you meant there was one called "ubuntus" *sigh*
[20:04] <Product> Ok cya :)
[20:04] <Maestr055> bon appetit
[20:04] <Maestr055> and thanks again
[20:04] <Product> :)
[20:04] <jsk> hey
[20:04] <Product> I'am just scared to do something wrong, and BAM everything vanishs.
[20:05] <Maestr055> if you run from a USB and don't click anything that says "install" you should be fine :)
[20:05] <Product> It is my first time doing this.
[20:05] <jo-erlend> Product, you won't type any commands. You'll enter your name, which country you live in, username and password, then you'll click on "Keep windows" and slide the slider to tell the installer how much diskspace to use for Windows and Ubuntu...
[20:05] <Product> Oh ok :)
[20:05] <jo-erlend> Product, have you burned a CD before?
[20:05] <Product> But don't I have to install it on my USB ?
[20:05] <Product> Nope :(
[20:05] <Product> Never, done before.
[20:06] <Product> That's why I'am scared to do something wrong.
[20:06] <Maestr055> you can install it from USB or from the CD
[20:06] <Maestr055> just do the USB and try ubuntu
[20:06] <Product> I'll use the USB/
[20:06] <jo-erlend> Product, ok. Don't worry. I haven't done it in a while, but I'll look it up for you. :)
[20:06] <Maestr055> if you like it, there's a link on the desktop to install it if you want
[20:06] <Maestr055> but you don't have to
[20:06] <Product> Ok :) Thankls !!
[20:06] <Product> Jo- I'll give you info ok ?
[20:06] <Product> Oh wait can I use /msg ?
[20:07] <jo-erlend> Product, sure.
[20:07] <jsk> if the burns fail i got a free cd from ubuntu that i used
[20:07] <bre> heyyy
[20:08] <Product> 237 153 339
[20:08] <Product> pip469
[20:08] <bre> heyyyyy
[20:08] <Product> Ok :)
[20:08] <FloodBot1> Product: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:08] <Product> Sorry bot :)
[20:08] <jemadux> can some one take for me a hackergotchi ?
[20:08] <bre> do any one hear me
[20:08] <jsk> yeah
[20:08] <bre> heyyyy
[20:08] <triggerh> sup guys
[20:09] <jsk> hey whats upi
[20:09] <triggerh> whats good out there peeps
[20:09] <bre> who is from GA
[20:09] <triggerh> not me
[20:09] <triggerh> NC here
[20:09] <bre> wow dang
[20:09] <triggerh> stationed in JP though
[20:09] <CAMT> can anyone here help with wireless set up? I can't figure out my BSSID, mac address, or how to do anything.... Major newbie, just switched to Lubuntu.
[20:10] <triggerh> nice
[20:10] <bre> who got facebook
[20:10] <triggerh> not in the top right?
[20:10] <Maestr055> good luck everyone, cyas
[20:10] <ExplodingPiglets> My update manager window is not closing.
[20:10] <bazhang> !ot | bre triggerh
[20:10] <ExplodingPiglets> I even used xkill on it,
[20:10] <ExplodingPiglets> but it will not go away.
[20:10] <bazhang> !wifi | CAMT
[20:10] <bre> who got facebook
[20:11] <bazhang> bre wrong channel
[20:11] <bre> how
[20:11] <bazhang> bre this is ubuntu support only
[20:11] <bre> o
[20:11] <jsk> you have to go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:11] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat bre
[20:12] <jsk> I have a question for all of you is their a way to get my applications folder on my desktop in Ubuntu?
[20:13] <bre> idk
[20:15] <jsk> Hello is their a way to get my applications folder on my desktop?
[20:15] <gionnico> ok solved it was gconf key /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/default was still at the now non-existing /usr/bin/compiz window manager.
[20:15] <gionnico> now.. how do i remove that ugly IM bar in gnome applet ??
[20:16] <gionnico> i dont want my username and auto-accounts and status
[20:16] <gionnico> stuff
[20:16] <zombie_> na
[20:16] <gionnico> id like to remove completely the "complete indicator" but maybe not possible anymore. just clock and volume and status bar was enough to me
[20:17] <jsk> well good bye every one have a good night/morning.
[20:18] <Zaehlas> hi, I ended up with some orhpaned files when a filesystem crashed.  is there an available utility to scan the non-text files to get identity information from the file?
[20:18] <bob_> how do I get a clock in the top panel (11.04 in classical gnome display)?
[20:18] <andrejpan>  i have one problem, my encoding is charset=unknown-8bit and because of that some letters are not shown correctly, how do I change this to utf8?
[20:19] <fartofagony> ef
[20:20] <luizbag> j #whatistheplan
[20:21] <ChefBaggins> Hello guys, my webcam has stopped being recognized or detected by my machine (AAO 150, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS). What can I do to get it back, please?
[20:24] <Mike1> anyone here using a Wacom Bamboo (Pen)?
[20:24] <Yxven> Any on guesses on why my ubuntu server's download speed fluctuates between bytes per second up to 250kb/sec when downloading from standard repositories?
[20:25] <Mike1> Yxven: maybe bad repo mirror, I’d just try a different one
[20:26] <Yxven> Mike1: I mean it drastically changes speeds when downloading the same file. It seems to happen from multiple sources
[20:28] <Yxven> It almost seems like a priority issue or something. When I ssh in as a different terminal and ping google the download speed usually increases from bytes per second to something reasonable
[20:28] <sudokill> Yxven, its probbaly someone on your network
[20:28] <sudokill> maybe?
[20:29] <phrostbite> Does anybody know why my internet connction would randomly drop down to 5%?
[20:29] <Yxven> sudokill: my download speed on my desktop still has reasonable transfer speeds/streaming music