[00:00] <raistlyn> yes dreamy
[00:00] <aboleth> xbox 360
[00:00] <dreamy> k ty
[00:00] <Flannel> dreamy: Yep.  You'll use a little bit more RAM when they're running (because you have to bring in the kde libs) but yeah.
[00:00] <aboleth> but it applies to other ones
[00:00] <raistlyn> aboleth: i wouldnt know anything about the console emulators
[00:00] <aboleth> it's not an emulator
[00:00] <ulaelable> how would i go about downloading a file from a remote computer onto my local computer when i am logged in to the remote machine via ssh
[00:00] <dreamy> Flannel: ill have the ram back after i close them . . then ?
[00:00] <aboleth> i'm using an actual xbox 360 controller
[00:00] <Flannel> dreamy: Yeah.
[00:00] <aboleth> it worked until i got the upgrade yesterday
[00:00] <dreamy> ok cool
[00:00] <aboleth> this is a common bug
[00:01] <aboleth> with the new version
[00:01] <aboleth> with all kinds of controller
[00:01] <raistlyn> on the xbox itself or on the computer ?
[00:01] <aboleth> computer
[00:01] <aboleth> why else would i be talking about this here?
[00:01] <aboleth> anyway
[00:01] <aboleth> i tried fixing it
[00:01] <aboleth> following this advice:
[00:01] <raistlyn> look if your using a controller hooked to a puter and it is for xbox then u need to use the emulator
[00:01] <Jeruvy> !enter | aboleth
[00:01] <aboleth> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-October/005956.html
[00:02] <aboleth> no, it used to work
[00:02] <aboleth> until yesterday
[00:02] <aboleth> because i upgraded to 8.10
[00:02] <aboleth> did you even read what i said?
[00:02] <raistlyn> do u have the emulator installed ?
[00:02] <aboleth> sorry jeruvy
[00:02] <mdg> hello
[00:02] <aboleth> that's irrelevant
[00:02] <aboleth> hi
[00:02] <raistlyn> no it is not
[00:02] <aboleth> yes it is
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> Ive used my Wii Controller on Linux :P
[00:03] <mdg> Can anyone guide me with regard to 8.10 PPC repositories?
[00:03] <aboleth> i used it before on windows
[00:03] <aboleth> it was a pain to set up though
[00:03] <aboleth> but what would an emulator have to do with ubuntu detecting my controller as a mouse?
[00:04] <Flannel> aboleth: You don't need one.  You just install one package and it works.
[00:04] <raistlyn> aboleth: if u do not think the emulator is not relevant in 8.10 then u need to do some reading
[00:04] <oCean_> mdg: ppc? As in PowerPC?
[00:04] <aboleth> raistlyn: what emulator?
[00:04] <aboleth> or rather
[00:04] <raistlyn> flannel: in Ubuntu 8.10 all those packages r in the emulator packages for console games like xbox ps3 sega
[00:04] <aboleth> which?
[00:05] <mdg> For PPC, from System, Administration, Sources, the download port is listed ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports (no ending slash) - is that why I can't get any PPC packages?
[00:05] <aboleth> i'm not playing xbox 360 games on my pc
[00:05] <mdg> oCean_: Yes PowerPC
[00:05] <oCean_> !ppc | mdg
[00:05] <aboleth> i wasn't even aware there was an xbox 360 emulator
[00:05] <aboleth> isn't that a bit recent for a console emulator??
[00:06] <aboleth> but i still fail to see what exactly that has to do with the problem i'm experiencing
[00:06] <raistlyn> aboleth : looking it up now
[00:06] <raistlyn> it is synaptics package manager
[00:06] <aboleth> do you want some links?
[00:06] <aboleth> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-evdev/+bug/274203
[00:06] <aboleth> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-October/005956.html
[00:06] <mdg> I have ubuntu 8.10 installed on a G4 iMac (lamp-style looking thing) and am having trouble getting the repos coordinated
[00:06] <aboleth> raistlyn: look at them
[00:06] <oCean_> aboleth: really, take it easy on the enter key
[00:07] <Flannel> !ppc | mdg
[00:07] <aboleth> sorry everyone about the enter key
[00:07] <Jeruvy> mdg: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427714
[00:07] <mn> I need some help with some errors I am having that are not logged in /var/log/syslog.  Is anyone willing to help?
[00:07] <aboleth> i'm using to typing that way in chat programs
[00:07] <Flannel> aboleth: You'll get used to it.
[00:07] <raistlyn> aboleth: look in cross platform in the package manager
[00:07] <oCean_> mn: have you checked /etc/syslog.conf ?
[00:08] <aboleth> raistlyn: what does that have to do with anything?
[00:08] <mn> oCean_:No, just a second
[00:08] <aboleth> it's not that its not installed
[00:08] <mdg> Jeruvy: yes, that is what I used to find the iso etc., but am having trouble with the repos
[00:08] <aryah47> any way to get XChat to open w my default browser instead of konqueror; I cant seem to see the option?
[00:08] <aryah47> *to open links
[00:08] <aboleth> if the links are correct, then its just that x thinks its a mouse, but x shouldnt have control of it, only hal
[00:08] <oCean_> mn: that is where you can set -what you want logged -where and -which level
[00:09] <elli222> Can anyone help me with this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/133135/
[00:09] <eternaljoy> Flannel: hello champ
[00:09] <aboleth> i had to blacklist it according to someone on the links, but it didn't work
[00:09] <aboleth> that's why i'm here
[00:09] <aboleth> and there i go again, using enter
[00:09] <wrektjet> can someone assist me installing the drivers on my new computer? the aytorun doesnt function
[00:10] <stdin> mdg: what trouble are you having?
[00:10] <mn> I can't remember what it is that I want logged.  It is some driver/hardware interfacing error that occurs at least 70 times during boot.  Last time, it hung at an (initramfs) prompt.
[00:10] <ader10> I made a softlink (music/) and I want to delete it. If I do sudo rm -r music/ will the files be removed?
[00:10] <ader10> (heh)
[00:10] <mn> @oCean_: ^^
[00:10] <oCean_> mn: yeah, that makes it kinda hard .. not remembering what you want to log :/
[00:10] <stdin> ader10: probably not, but you don't need the -r option anyway
[00:10] <ader10> stdin, thanks
[00:10] <ader10> I'll try it
[00:11] <ader10> rm: cannot remove `music/': Is a directory
[00:11] <mdg> stdin: I've changed my sources.list to reflect the PPC port (ports.ubuntu.com), and removed all references to archive, but synaptic keeps checking them
[00:11] <oCean_> ader10: remove the trailing /
[00:11] <ader10> -r worked
[00:12] <mn> Ocean_:Yeah, it said something about a buffer I/O error on /dev/sda4 and it kept giving me the drive/hardware interface error with different IDs
[00:12] <mdg> stdin: I don't think synaptic is meshing with my sources list right
[00:12] <stdin> mdg: check there are no *.list files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and see what "sudo apt-get update" checks
[00:12] <grizzlysmit> hello I was wondering why there is no libgnomedbmm even though there is libgnomedb where do I request a new package
[00:12] <riwa> My processor is working at 100%. But when I check my processes they use about 30 % altogether. Could someone/something use a process and hide it somehow?
[00:12] <elli222> root
[00:12] <ader10> alright, now here's my small problem: sudo ln -s "/media/storage/My Music/flac/" music/ links to the folder flac inside music, not the contents of flac
[00:13] <elli222> root starts processes that normal users cant see
[00:13] <stdin> grizzlysmit: file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[00:13] <elli222> things like init...
[00:13] <elli222> but killing inti results in a kernel panic
[00:13] <riwa> elli222: ok. thanks
[00:13] <elli222> so dont do it!
[00:13] <grizzlysmit> stdin: thankyou
[00:14] <ader10> elli222, Wrong: ps -e|grep init
[00:14] <mdg> stdin: update returned errors for security.ubuntu.com
[00:14] <ader10> :P
[00:14] <akincer> are there any known issues with networking and/or keyboard/mouse input in 8.10
[00:14] <mdg> nothing but medibuntu in sources.list.d
[00:14] <ader10> How do I link to the contents of flac/ in music/ instead of having the folder flac/ linked to in music/?
[00:14] <oCean_> ader10: I don't get it
[00:15] <ader10> oCean_, sudo ln -s "/media/storage/My Music/flac/" music/ will create a folder flac/ inside music/
[00:15] <ader10> I just want flac/'s contents inside music
[00:15] <stdin> mdg: you need to change security.ubuntu.com to ports.ubuntu.com too
[00:15] <oCean_> ader10: what does "ls -al music" list, after you created the link?
[00:15] <mdg> stdin: In sources.list or sources.list.d or both?
[00:15] <ader10> flac -> /media/storage/My Music/flac/
[00:16] <ader10> thanks for ls -al, I didn't know about that earlier xD
[00:16] <elli222> nautilus makes links very well
[00:16] <stdin> mdg: anywhere where security.ubuntu.com is mentioned
[00:16] <ader10> But still, inside music/, there is flac/ instead of flac/'s contents
[00:16] <mdg> stdin: Should sources.list.d have more than just medibuntu in it?
[00:16] <oCean_> ader10: well, that is correct isn't it? You linked two directories. So do "ls -al flac/"  <-- trailing slash
[00:16] <elli222> then link the content of flac to there...
[00:16] <sebsebseb>
[00:17] <stdin> mdg: by default it's empty, it just lets you keep groups of repositories separate
[00:17] <ader10> oCean_, How do I get flac/'s contents inside of music/?
[00:17] <oCean_> ader10: not
[00:17] <mdg> stdin: okay, let me go check my sources.list
[00:17] <ader10> Such a disappointment :(
[00:18] <oCean_> ader10: you create a link to a directory. So when you list that LINK, it will show the link, but
[00:18] <Formode> So, trying to get MPD to stream to my Icecast... However about a minute after I start MPD my stream stops working... ANy ideas?
[00:18] <oCean_> ader10: when you list the LINK/ (trailing slash!) it should list the content of the linked directory
[00:18] <oCean_> so
[00:18] <nightrid3r> dreamy:
[00:19] <oCean_> ader10: ls -al flac -- lists the link (to the actual directory) but ls -al flac/  will list the contents of "/blah/blah/my music/flac"
[00:19] <ader10> thanks, oCean_!
[00:19] <ader10> I got it :)
[00:19] <ader10> It's been a while
[00:19] <oCean_> ader10: your welcome.
[00:21] <ader10> okay, now, what's your favorite mpd client? :P
[00:21] <LjL> !favorite
[00:21] <ader10> ....
[00:21] <ader10> ubotu = not too helpful
[00:22] <LjL> i beg to differ.
[00:22] <ader10> I'm asking for personal opinions, not what the best is :)
[00:22] <bazhang> ader10, ask in #ubuntu-bots
[00:22] <eternaljoy> Flannel: hello champ
[00:22] <Formode> !Beer
[00:22] <LjL> ader10: and i'm telling you this is not the appropriate place.
[00:22] <Formode> Ubottu = Helpful.
[00:22] <ader10> alright.
[00:23] <bazhang> eternaljoy, do you have a support question?
[00:23] <ader10> this channel is very different, I got help when I asked today :)
[00:23] <ader10> rewind a year, nobody would help
[00:23] <ader10> thanks.
[00:24] <wrektjet> can someone please help me- i am tryoing to install drivers but none of the cd-rom disks are playing becasue "autorun"program" cannot be found
[00:24] <bernz> elli222, (hopefully you're not AFK, sorry for my extremely tardy response) i've looked there, but perhaps i don't know what i'm looking for; i expect to see a shortcut labelled 'Epiphany Web Browser' or somesuch, and there's nothing of the sort there (or any other place on the menu hierarchy)
[00:25] <Formode> wrektjet, are you trying to install Windows Drivers that will not work on Linux?
[00:25] <wrektjet> i mean the aurorun is an inf file but these drivers should work. they are the drivers that come with my mobo
[00:26] <Formode> So they are drivers that will not work on linux. :-P
[00:26] <wrektjet> they were hardware compatible as far as i know
[00:26] <basix> hello all! can someone please point me to a tool that'll process my apache access logs and produce some interesting results? I'm particularly interested in looking at the queries that are landing people on my pages.
[00:26] <Formode> They are windows executables, won't work. xD
[00:26] <wrektjet> well the videocard was hardware compatible when i checked
[00:26] <bernz> wrektjet, what format are they in? if .dll, .inf, etc, no luck :-(
[00:26] <Formode> wrektjet, Windows Drivers do not work on linux. Check the repos for graphic card drivers if you need those.
[00:26] <bernz> wrektjet, manufacturers often offer linux drivers for their motherboards at the homesite of the manuf.
[00:27] <wrektjet> oh ok thats how it goes
[00:27] <wrektjet> fine thank you ill follow up on that i dint realize
[00:27] <wrektjet> thanks Formode and bernz
[00:28] <bernz> wrektjet, if you have NVidia or ATI (e.g. Radeon), there is a community/manuf co-op driver (i believe)... it works fairly well (i'm using it on ATI Radeon HD2600)
[00:28] <Formode> wrektjet, Have a good one. :)
[00:29] <frank_austin> hi there. I have a big problem in 8.10 resulting from a restart following the recent updates - my icons have changed and there is no network or clock etc.
[00:29] <bahadeli> salam
[00:30] <solexious_> Is it possible to setup a proxy that can throttle the speeds going though it?
[00:30] <bazhang> solexious_, managing bandwidth?
[00:30] <bazhang> !info trickle
[00:30] <wrektjet> i have nvidia
[00:31] <solexious_> bazhang, Thanks
[00:31] <killindillin> Hey guys i have one noob of a question could i run ubuntu off an external hard drive
[00:31] <killindillin> ??
[00:31] <sebsebseb> killindillin: you can
[00:31] <sebsebseb> !external
[00:31] <killindillin> k
[00:31] <sebsebseb> !usb
[00:31] <Formode> killindillin, Yeah, you can. You can even use flash drives.
[00:32] <gabrielR> Hi! I need to set-up a FTP server for a class, and I have a VPS running Ubuntu. I installed vsftpd, it worked, but now I need to create virtual users. But I can't install the package libdb4.4, it says it is not found
[00:32] <killindillin> ya i knew the flash drive one
[00:32] <sebsebseb> killindillin: I guess you just install it on the external hard disk like you would for an internal
[00:32] <killindillin> kk
[00:32] <killindillin> thanx
[00:32] <solexious_> bazhang, Just what I was looking for :)
[00:32] <bernz> wrektjet, okay, there's a thingy called 'envyng' (the 2nd-gen version of 'envy'), which is a sort of "installation wizard" that helps you install the special drivers for nvidia or ATI cards... i'm not recommending it (some people will argue against, for various reasons, and i'm not starting a debate), but visiting the site will give you more info on how to install the drivers manually (or just try some web searching on your driver model)
[00:33] <sebsebseb> killindillin: having a seperate home for an Ubuntu install is a great idea by the way.   don't make your root / partition massive either.  so like 10 to 16GB should be fine.   and 1GB or so swap  is good
[00:33] <Formode> So, trying to get MPD to stream to my Icecast... However about a minute after I start MPD my stream stops working... ANy ideas?
[00:33] <bernz> wrektjet, FWIW, i _did_ use 'envyng' to install for my ATI HD 2600, and i've had no problems so far, though i've had to ref*ckulate the settings on each media player to correct flicker problems, etc
[00:34] <killindillin> sebsebseb: thanx for the info
[00:34] <frank_austin> It looks as if the updates have broken my gnome desktop somehow and stuff is not starting up properly - can anyone help?
[00:34] <sebsebseb> killindillin: why external?
[00:34] <gabrielR> Can anyone help me getting started installing vsftpd?
[00:35] <killindillin> i have only 10 gigs left on my 70 gig laptop
[00:35] <mdg> stdin: that helped some.  thanks
[00:35] <bernz> frank_austin, do you get to your actual usable desktop, but with various bits of brokenness? or not even to full desktop?
[00:35] <erUSUL> gabrielR: sudo apt-get install vsftpd
[00:35] <sebsebseb> killindillin: oh right well  a  / with home inside it.  a lot can be done with 10GB  Ubuntu
[00:35] <elli222> Guys, i am modifying my /etc/event.d/rc-default. I want to know if this will work. thanks: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/133193/
[00:35] <killindillin> and i dont mant to screw my laptop
[00:35] <mdg> I'm still trying to download ndiswrapper to I can get an rt73 USB adapter working
[00:35] <frank_austin> bernz: I have a useable desktop in different colour and icons.
[00:35] <sebsebseb> killindillin: well  woudn't normalley recommend it, but wubi
[00:36] <sebsebseb> !wubi
[00:36] <bernz> Formode, oh man, your problem sounds pretty "interesting" :-)  have you tried observing the network traffic (presumably, something has disconnected (net-wise))?
[00:36] <gabrielR> erUSUL but I need to install libdb4.4 to create virtual users, but it says it is not found
[00:36] <killindillin> hey does wubi work on ms vista
[00:36] <killindillin> ??
[00:36] <sebsebseb> killindillin: normalley it's better to partition a hard disk for real,  and yes it works with VIsrta
[00:36] <elli222> find out
[00:36] <killindillin> k thanx
[00:36] <sebsebseb> killindillin: it puts Ubuntu inside your  VIsta partition
[00:36] <Formode> bernz, it's all local, so I don't think anything disconnecting would change anything. >>
[00:36] <frank_austin> bernz: when I try to click on preferences | appearance I get "unable to start the settings manager 'gnome-settings-daemon'
[00:36] <sebsebseb> killindillin: and then you get the Windows bootloader and Grub
[00:37] <bernz> frank_austin, ah, so your current theme may be "broken" -- perhaps simply selecting a new theme could "fix" it -- this happened to me when i tried to manually install my video card's special driver, then switched to a lower resolution -- suddenly, my theme reverted to some weird old system default
[00:37] <erUSUL> !info libdb4.4 | gabrielR
[00:37] <erUSUL> gabrielR: it is there
[00:37] <sebsebseb> killindillin: how much RAM in Vista,  because  good for trying, but I woudn't recommend it for long time proper usage, but you can run Ubuntu inside VIsta, if you got enough RAM
[00:37] <frank_austin> bernz: I haven't tinkered with the theme - I just installed the latest 8.10 updates.
[00:37] <Formode> Ubottu KDE
[00:37] <bernz> Formode, okay, so perhaps something in the "chain" is crashing? hmm, actually, is it still streaming, but just "silence"/"zeroes"/etc?
[00:38] <storm-zen> I need someone to help me fix my sound.  permanently.  I'm really tired of fixing it and having it go out again.
[00:38] <Formode> Bernz, I get a "File not found" error, and the stream cuts out.
[00:38] <sebsebseb> storm-zen: which UBuntu?
[00:38] <gabrielR> erUSUL but it says E: Couldn't find package libdb4.4 what am I doing wrong? :(
[00:38] <frank_austin> bernz: I'll try installing a new theme...
[00:38] <Formode> Bernz, Error logs in state it's a socket Timeout.
[00:38] <elli222> Guys, i am modifying my /etc/event.d/rc-default. I want to know if this will work. thanks: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/133193/ PLEASE HELP!
[00:38] <storm-zen> sebsebseb: Intrepid.
[00:38] <killindillin> sebsebseb: i have 1 gig of ram
[00:38] <bernz> frank_austin, i don't know enough about the update process to say whether it could modify your theme/desktop-settings, but... try selecting a new theme anyway and see if it "resets" stuff
[00:38] <erUSUL> gabrielR: what version of ubuntu ?
[00:38] <sebsebseb> killindillin: yep Ubuntu should work in a virtual machine in Vista,  but Vista as the host hummmm
[00:38] <riwa> storm-zen: How do you "fix" it?
[00:39] <Formode> killinkillin, Vista runs on 1 gb of ram?
[00:39] <killindillin> ya
[00:39] <killindillin> it does
[00:39] <sebsebseb> !sound | storm-zen
[00:39] <storm-zen> riwa: I come on here, and follow the instructions that I'm given until it seems to work.
[00:39] <frank_austin> bernz: not having any effect.
[00:39] <gabrielR> erUSUL could it be 2.6.18-12-fza-686-bigmem ?
[00:39] <bernz> Formode, hmm... well, if it's using TCP, connections can drop even inside a LAN (say by a peer forcibly closing, due to an error)... are there system/app logs for the programs (icecast, etc)? perhaps they will reveal something
[00:39] <storm-zen> riwa: Or I go to #alsa, and do the same process.
[00:39] <elli222> sebsebseb, Were talking about wubi, not Virtual Machines
[00:39] <tonsofpcs> where can i find the xmms package for hardy
[00:39] <riwa> storm-zen: And then it works until you reboot?
[00:39] <frank_austin> bernz: the theme is not changing anything which suggests something deeper is broken.
[00:39] <sebsebseb> elli222: no I mentioned both things
[00:39] <Formode> bernz, thats all the logs said... Socket Timeout. :-/
[00:39] <elli222> !etc
[00:39] <erUSUL> gabrielR: do "lsb_release -a"   but
[00:40] <bernz> frank_austin, well, one cheap trick that *might* work is to simply restart the window manager -- make sure all important apps/docs are closed safely, and then CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE (IIRC)
[00:40] <sebsebseb> elli222: I was giving him the options for running Ubuntu
[00:40] <killindillin> formode: what is a good virtual mahine program
[00:40] <killindillin> for a noob
[00:40] <sebsebseb> Virtualbox of course
[00:40] <killindillin> k
[00:40] <sebsebseb> get the binary from their site
[00:40] <bazhang> !xmms | tonsofpcs
[00:40] <storm-zen> sometimes it works after a few reboots and then dies.
[00:40] <elli222> !rc-default
[00:40] <__mikem> killindillin, free would be virtual box, otherwise vmware
[00:40] <sebsebseb> killindillin: or you won't have USB  suppourt
[00:40] <riwa> storm-zen: Then I have no idea, sorry.
[00:41] <bernz> Formode, so the next question is *who* owns the socket that timed out... (which apps)
[00:41] <_VIM_> there's a free vmware too _mikem
[00:41] <gabrielR> erUSUL 8.10
[00:41] <tonsofpcs> bazhang: that's nice that it's no longer being developed, why did it disappear?
[00:41] <sebsebseb> killindillin: so the closed version instead of open source yeah.   http://www.virtualbox.org
[00:41] <tonsofpcs> it should still be in the repo
[00:41] <__mikem> _VIM_, yes, but vmware server sucks, and vmware player requires the use of easyvmx or something
[00:41] <elli222> !shadow
[00:41] <_VIM_> i
[00:41] <erUSUL> gabrielR: with a 2.6.18 kernel ?? but anyway if its 8.10 the package is there in universe
[00:41] <sebsebseb> killindillin: now as I said wubi and virtualbox  will be good for trying Ubuntu, but then really you should partition a hard disk for real later on for Ubuntu :)
[00:41] <Formode> bernz, Hold on trying a new config. :)
[00:42] <bernz> frank_austin, have you done a Web search about "revert" "default" "desktop" "theme" "GNOME" and other such keywords (together especially)?
[00:42] <_VIM_> I'll agree _mikem the vmware server's web interface... is horrid :)
[00:42] <elli222> Guys, i am modifying my /etc/event.d/rc-default. I want to know if this will work. thanks: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/133193/ PLEASE HELP!
[00:42] <erUSUL> gabrielR: go to system>Administration>Software Sources make sure universe is enabled on the first tab
[00:42] <frank_austin> bernz: I'll try that...
[00:42] <killindillin> sebsebseb:and virtual box will work with the latest version of ubuntu
[00:42] <sebsebseb> killindillin: of course
[00:42] <gabrielR> erUSUL it seems I can't get any GUI since i'm on a VPS.. how do I do that in command line?
[00:42] <killindillin> thanx
[00:42] <__mikem> _VIM_, no, I am talking about how vmware server uses network sockets to serve the display, even if its being served locally
[00:42] <sebsebseb> killindillin: it will run any OS for the PC, well not sure about Hackintosh :D
[00:43] <erUSUL> gabrielR: check the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[00:43] <storm-zen> I also have this problem where anytime a system bell sounds, it dumps the entire Xorg session.
[00:43] <storm-zen> Anyone heard of that one?
[00:43] <__mikem> _VIM_, this leads to the most horrific graphics performance available in a VM
[00:43] <bernz> Formode, sometimes you can adjust settings to make sockets block indefinitely (until an event occurs) and stuff like that... but that's all in the documentation of the app (plus the related RFCs on TCP, UDP, and other common socket stuff)
[00:43] <killindillin> sebsebseb:i'm runnin vista right now on my laptop
[00:43] <_VIM_> __mikem: ah, gotcha
[00:43] <sebsebseb> killindillin: yes, and maybe you don't really need Vista
[00:43] <killindillin> no i want vista
[00:43] <sebsebseb> killindillin: why?
[00:43] <killindillin> i like it
[00:43] <{bosco}> i do have one question if i am logged into my vps/deticated server how do i tell that i am actually running a deticted server and that i am not getting a vps when it is supposed to be a deticated
[00:44] <{bosco}> i run ubuntu
[00:44] <killindillin> i grew up with windows
[00:44] <gabrielR> erUSUL I have "intrepid main", "intrepid-updates main" and "intrepid-security main"
[00:44] <bernz> storm-zen, that has the sound of a classic 70s hacker tale, but i've never heard of it... can you disable the system bell sound? :-D
[00:44] <frank_austin> bernz: google search revealed several threads suggesting dumpint ubuntu because this is 'always' happening with updates :|
[00:44] <sebsebseb> killindillin: ok well I expect a bit more free space can be made, and you can dual boot on that hard disk
[00:44] <storm-zen> bernz: No.  Even though I've tried.
[00:44] <erUSUL> gabrielR: seems you do not have universe.... very weird
[00:45] <killindillin> sebsebseb:i dont want to screw with my HDD FOR THE LAST TIME
[00:45] <bernz> frank_austin, oh darn, i just updated this morning!  :-y
[00:45] <gabrielR> erUSUL how can I add it?
[00:45] <bernz> then again, i haven't noticed any issues (so i guess i was just lucky)
[00:45] <frank_austin> bernz: It only happened after restarting
[00:45] <sebsebseb> killindillin: maybe put on the external then.   altough  being able to run two OS's at the same time is pretty damn sweet so yeah virtual machine.
[00:45] <_VIM_> haha sebsebseb stop beating dead horses!
[00:46] <storm-zen> bernz: Closest I can get is to do use gTerm... it has an option to stop the system bells.  Unfortunately, I keep finding other places where the system bell is used... ... like when something isn't found on a web page when searching for text...
[00:46] <bernz> frank_austin, ahhh -- i didn't have to restart (probably i wasn't running enough applications to lock any system files that might need replacement)
[00:46] <frank_austin> bernz: I restarted because firefox wouldn't open a new window after the updates.
[00:46] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: heh indeed I guess
[00:46] <erUSUL> gabrielR: add this twoo lines. deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid universe
[00:46] <erUSUL> deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid-updates universe
[00:46] <tonsofpcs> can someone suggest a media player that has a built in pan feature?
[00:46] <erUSUL> gabrielR: you do not have those lines comented out ? in the file?
[00:46] <killindillin> sebsebseb: thank you but how big a usb drive i need to run ubuntu
[00:47] <bernz> storm-zen, yeah, it would need to be some kind of system-wide setting... so... is it maybe the app/daemon that's trying to actually play the sound (which i expect is a digitized file, not the actual PC speaker)?
[00:47] <sebsebseb> killindillin: Flash Stick or external hard disk?
[00:47] <killindillin> flash stick
[00:47] <sebsebseb> killindillin: a default install of Ubuntu takes up about 1GB
[00:47] <gabrielR> erUSUL no not at all
[00:47] <bernz> frank_austin, have you restarted since? maybe something "missed" during the update, but will be caught the second time 'round (i've used windows too long :-)
[00:47] <storm-zen> bernz: Pretty sure that it's the speaker.  .. the beep is the last thing I hear before everything goes black...
[00:47] <killindillin> WOW ubuntu only takes one gig!!!!!
[00:48] <sebsebseb> yep a default install about 1GB
[00:48] <_VIM_> actually that's a lot compared to most distros
[00:48] <frank_austin> bernz: yes, I tried restarting straight away.
[00:48] <storm-zen> bernz: And it happens on console, mostly, when the window flashes...
[00:48] <_VIM_> some are 50 megs or less
[00:48] <killindillin> i couldnt put knoppix on a 4 gig flash drive
[00:48] <sebsebseb> _VIM_: ha ha sure if it's puppy linux or damn small linux
[00:48] <bernz> storm-zen, do you have "fancy" graphics on?
[00:48] <mdg> Anyone have any luck installing rt73USB wifi adapter with serial monkey driver?
[00:48] <_VIM_> well a distro is a distro :P
[00:48] <sebsebseb> killindillin: 4GB flash drive perfect
[00:48] <storm-zen> bernz: Yes.  Why would that affect the system bell?
[00:48] <sebsebseb> killindillin: ,but you can't have all the  rather good Linux stuff
[00:49] <sebsebseb> killindillin: no point bother with Kubuntu as well for example, since the lack of space
[00:49] <killindillin> sebsebseb : like what?
[00:49] <sebsebseb> Kubuntu
[00:49] <sebsebseb> Xubuntu
[00:49] <sebsebseb> hell loads of choice with Linux
[00:49] <killindillin> ya
[00:49] <sebsebseb> loads of great apps
[00:49] <bernz> storm-zen, well, if it's using "fancy" stuff to flash/fade the console (along with the bell), maybe there's a bug in the driver, which is caught by an exception handler, which just bails (and takes X with it)
[00:50] <bernz> storm-zen, (of course, that's just a wild guess, but -- try turning off fancy effects and see if that has a positive effect?)
[00:50] <storm-zen> bernz: Ah.  That's a reasonable interpretation.
[00:50] <sebsebseb> killindillin: I think   a  dynamically expanding  Virtualbox VM is a good idea
[00:50] <skyl> why does iptables -L take a long time to return?
[00:50] <storm-zen> skyl: Did you use sudo?
[00:50] <kaista> hi anyone have an idea why my keyboard would not work on an ubuntu install, worked on setup obviously and first boot then stopped working however i can ctrl alt del to shutdown  still
[00:50] <bernz> storm-zen, i'm keen to find out the result if you're able to test it reasonably soon  :-)
[00:51] <sebsebseb> killindillin: it won't take up that much space on your hard disk,  unless you start putting loads of big data in to it
[00:51] <skyl> storm-zen yes, I am timing it right now
[00:51] <sebsebseb> killindillin: yeah Linux programs take up hardly any space, unlike Windows programs
[00:51] <kaista> sorry not install, just stopped working second time round
[00:51] <storm-zen> Ok, bernz.
[00:51] <killindillin> sebsebseb:those programs u said could i fit some of them and ubuntu on a 16 gig flashdrive
[00:51] <sebsebseb> killindillin: yep you can do it all on that
[00:51] <skyl> 40.48 seconds
[00:51] <killindillin> cause costco had a great deal on them
[00:51] <ader10> 8.10 has pulseaudio by default, correct?
[00:52] <frank_austin> bernz: I'm trying a complete gnome configuration reset by moving the config dirs...
[00:52] <skyl> I am using jaunty, does this have bearing, shout I ask in +1?
[00:52] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[00:52] <_VIM_> ader10: yep
[00:52] <randal> whats the newest version of wine anyone know
[00:52] <chronic> whats the best linux pdf reader?
[00:52] <kaista> hi anyone have an idea why my keyboard would not work on an ubuntu at login?, worked on setup obviously and first boot then stopped working however i can ctrl alt del to shutdown and it shuts down
[00:52] <sebsebseb> killindillin: to be honest I don't like KDE4 that much, which is the only KDE in 8.10  hardy heron has  KDE3 and 4 as options :)  KDE 3 :d
[00:53] <skyl> Jaunty has not caused me any problems for the month I have been on it and it is def. the best ubuntu experience I have had yet
[00:53] <storm-zen> randal: You can probably find that on #wine?
[00:53] <bernz> frank_austin, that sounds interesting... take your time, and make backups as necessary ;-)
[00:53] <storm-zen> .. or not.
[00:53] <randal> storm-zen:  theres no one on that channel
[00:53] <killindillin> k thanx
[00:53] <frank_austin> randal: use vmware rather than wine - I've found it much more reliable.
[00:53] <randal> frank_austin: vmware is a emulator
[00:53] <bernz> frank_austin, are you forcing the config to be "missing" in the hopes of GNOME creating default configs for you, or do you have a "default set" available?
[00:54] <randal> frank_austin:  wine is not a emulator and can you even play games on vmware
[00:54] <frank_austin> bernz: I'm hoping on the basis of http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/
[00:54] <bernz> frank_austin, oh good to hear about vmware -- i've been thinking about how to run old windows stuff like eeprom burners which only work on win32... i wasn't decided, but i keep hearing votes for vmware. cheers
[00:54] <frank_austin> randal: I play starcraft on it no problem and run photoshop and stuff like that.
[00:54] <_VIM_> frank_austin: that site is 2 years old :/
[00:55] <bernz> frank_austin, ah, very nice -- a good one for the log (EVERYTHING YOU SAY AND DO IS BEING RECORDED).  :-D
[00:55] <_VIM_> that post rather
[00:55] <mdg> For PPC, I need to upgrade the "headers" to 2.6.26-2-powerpc - how to check and how do I upgrade?
[00:55] <frank_austin> randal: its very cool just launching a windows pc for the purpose and performance is good so long as you aren't running anything else.
[00:55] <bernz> frank_austin, (be sure to post the link again with a comment saying "this works, easy as pie, totally legit!" or something similar, so others searching the log will benefit ;-)
[00:55] <Pretto> any udev master here?
[00:56] <frank_austin> bernz: hmm -  I should have checked the age of the info. At least I kept the files ;)
[00:56] <porter1> There's always virtualbox as well if you don't like Vmware
[00:56] <sebsebseb> killindillin: 8.04 is long term suppourt also.  and not that much difference between 8.10 and 8.04.   with the next Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Xubuntu at the end of April.  have you had Ubuntu installed before?   well you have the  options now.  so  do what you you want to do,  and that can be for trying.  Then you could do a more proper  long term install once Jaunty is out.   That's my suggestion.
[00:56] <bernz> Pretto, nope, but i'd like to learn about it too -- i have an NVidia MCP51 USB 2.0 controller that is "hiding" from Linux
[00:56] <bernz> frank_austin, yeah, good deal! smart move
[00:57] <bernz> frank_austin, if you still have your "desktop" CD, you could run it "live", then steal its X config, copy it to your hard drive (mount it temporarily in the live session -- don't forget to unmount safely before restart!)
[00:57] <storm-zen> bernz.. ok.. enabled system bell..
[00:57] <Pretto> bernz, maybe this link could help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221
[00:57] <ader10> http://pastebin.com/m42e69c14 MPD can't output audio
[00:58] <frank_austin> ok http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/ works to reset the theme BUT does not fix the problem - now I have the right theme but with the same stack of errors - volume control has quite unexpectedly, panel encountered problem while loading clock applet - no network
[00:59] <frank_austin> http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/14/how-to-reset-ubuntugnome-settings-to-defaults-without-re-installing/ also sheds all your customer menus, icons etc. in the panels
[01:00] <_VIM_> frank_austin: as i said 5 mins ago, that post is 2 years old, maybe look for a more up-to-date one
[01:00] <killindillin> sebsebseb: i maybe can do that but with a longterm installation do mean i take virtual box and just be able to run two oses at the same time or dual boot
[01:00] <frank_austin> _VIM_: fair point but I don't think reseting the theme is addressing the real problem.
[01:00] <sebsebseb> killindillin: I mean use 8.10 for trying things
[01:01] <killindillin> k
[01:01] <sebsebseb> killindillin: then do 9.04  for a real proper long term install
[01:01] <bernz> Pretto, it sounds like my problem is slightly "deeper" in the system (no kernel messages even during plug/unplug events, although the same USB device on my working controllers (on expansion card) *do* print kernel messages for events)
[01:01] <sebsebseb> killindillin: and I assume by the time that's released Ext4 will be good enough to use as the file system instead of Ext3
[01:02] <bernz> Pretto, but that's a great link nonetheless -- i'm definitely going to read that post and try stuff out with some of my weirder USB devices
[01:02] <fearful> When I login to a root ftp using connect to server all I see is a readme.txt saying that I need to cd how can I see my folders?
[01:02] <killindillin> and when u say long term u mean i will be using it like all the time but i kcan be running it of virtual box
[01:02] <Pretto> bernz, ok, i wish you luck
[01:02] <killindillin> right
[01:02] <sebsebseb> killindillin: I mean long term, the one you don't re install. the one you just upgrade to  newer versions
[01:02] <anom01y> does anyone here know how I can connect to a shared printer in XP with ubuntu (cups) ? they are both connected to the same router
[01:03] <sebsebseb> killindillin: Vista as the host hummmmm.   really it should be the other way round, but I don't think that's possible with only 1GB RAM
[01:03] <storm-zen> bernz: Ok... disabling desktop effects did not work.  Neither did uninstalling compiz, though, I did notice that did not remove the visual effects tab...
[01:03] <bernz> Pretto, thanks, and you the same -- one place you might also want to check (which i will soon) is the USB developers' mailing list (can't remember the name, but search for "greg kroah-hartman", a USB wizard -- he'll link to the list for sure)
[01:03] <peepsalot> is there any simple audio recording app that "just works"?  i have always had trouble using audacity to record.
[01:03] <pauldavidv3> hey guys I have this wusb54gcsv2 that I tried to ndis the win drivers and the damn thing still wont work anybody have any solutions for this stupid thing?
[01:03] <stefano> how do i request a password reminder email from freenode?
[01:03] <killindillin> sebsebseb: oh you mean a dual boot right and i just update the os like vista right.
[01:03] <sebsebseb> killindillin: the host OS the one that is on the hard disk for real.  and the guest the one that is in the vm
[01:04] <Pretto> bernz, thank you very much
[01:04] <killindillin> ya vista came preinstalled
[01:04] <sebsebseb> killindillin: a proper partitioned dual boot  would be good once 9.04 is out.  and also with Ext4 as the file system instead of Ext3, if it is indeed stable enough by then.
[01:04] <killindillin> so i'm pretty much srewed then
[01:04] <bernz> storm-zen, too bad :-( might as well reinstall compiz, though :-) does sound work okay with other applications, like a media player?
[01:04] <storm-zen> stefano: Try #help
[01:04] <storm-zen> bernz: Well.. right now sound just hisses at me...
[01:05] <storm-zen> ... and then if I make a mistake that triggers a system bell, the whole desktop flushes...
[01:05] <XeKtRuM> hello
[01:05] <bernz> storm-zen, white noise? or stuck in a small loop?
[01:05] <storm-zen> bernz: Could be either...
[01:05] <sebsebseb> killindillin: Wubi or  virtual machines of Ubuntu,  are good for trying,  but  for a proper install   it's best to partition the hard disk for real
[01:05] <XeKtRuM> mi rc.local isnt running
[01:05] <fearful> When I login to a root ftp using connect to server all I see is a readme.txt saying that I need to cd how can I see my folders?
[01:05] <XeKtRuM> what could it be
[01:05] <freeksh0w86> Can someone help me get Flash to work after killing pulseaudio? I had to kill pulseaudio for Audacity to work. But I still need Flash sound to work. Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit
[01:05] <XeKtRuM> ?
[01:05] <storm-zen> bernz: The dogs are probably running away... it's real high pitched...
[01:06] <grim76> sup people
[01:06] <bernz> storm-zen, can you uninstall your sound drivers? (i've never tried that, so i don't know how involved it is) -- in the meantime, turn your volume down ;-)
[01:06] <killindillin> sebsebseb: okay i get you now i can run the currant ubuntu off a thumb drive then when the new one comes out i partition and all that stuff???....right
[01:06] <mattgyver83> Im trying to make a backup of a game that I have however when i put the disc in the drive it doesnt automatically mount it.  Its a DVD, any ideas?
[01:06] <sebsebseb> killindillin: yes
[01:06] <killindillin> tahnk you
[01:06] <killindillin> thank you *
[01:06] <sebsebseb> killindillin: once 9.04 is out,  put it on the hard disk properly
[01:06] <bernz> storm-zen, if you uninstall your sound drivers (ALSA, JACK, etc), and it fixes the problem, then when you reinstall, check each time you add a new "piece", and you might find the culprit
[01:07] <sebsebseb> killindillin: also I expect OS's run quicker from the internal hard disk
[01:07] <killindillin> ahhhhhhhh....my keyboard is spazzing out
[01:07] <bernz> storm-zen, (i mean when you reinstall the sound systems)
[01:07] <killindillin> kk
[01:07] <luddite> i cant hibernate ubuntu whilst virtualbox is running a winxpp vm.
[01:07] <sebsebseb> killindillin: you shoudn't use your internal hard disk as the major storage device, and so you should have data on extenral hard disk.  and both even for data you want to make sure to never lose
[01:08] <bernz> storm-zen, i understand if you're unwilling to try that, because it *is* a lot of fuss
[01:08] <storm-zen> bernz: Uninstalling pulseaudio looks like it will uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[01:08] <freeksh0w86> Can I get Flash audio to work with pulseaudio somehow? I need both Audacity AND Youtube to have fully working sound at the moment.
[01:08] <dimitree> How do i get the iconv library ? AM_ICONV: command not found ?
[01:09] <binarymutant> when I run debdiff I keep getting gpg errors, how can I fix this?
[01:09] <alecwh_d> Every time I login, I need to do a 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' in order to get my wifi card working. Is there a way to fix this so it will automatically work when I turn on my computer?
[01:09] <solid_liquid> !ping
[01:10] <crink> !opensparc
[01:10] <solid_liquid> !ping
[01:10] <bernz> storm-zen, in that case, maybe it's too annoying/difficult/annoyingly difficult to "reset" the whole sound system; maybe we could figure out the path the terminal takes to the speakers (i.e. identify the sound system being used, and look more closely at it)
[01:10] <sebsebseb> killindillin: virtual machines are pretty  damn interesting, and so for trying Ubuntu for your first time with 8.10,   even though Vista is the host,  I would recommend doing Ubuntu like that.     if Vista was the guest,  you could just copy it  like a normal OS file.  and delete it like one as well.  so if a virus for example, just use a clean backup copy
[01:10] <bernz> alecwh_d, there is... you want to learn about "run levels", and the '/etc/init.d/' magical directory hierarchy
[01:10] <frank_austin> I wish there was an undo button for updates!
[01:10] <killindillin> sebsebseb:ok your saying that i can keep vista and its data on the hdd then put all my important stuff on a cd or flash drive and put ubuntu on the hdd  then its files on a external hdd
[01:11] <freeksh0w86> !sound
[01:11] <flatcoke> Is there anyway to restore or repair your wireless drivers? I screwed up mine and can't get it back to it's working state. eth1 is lost!
[01:11] <sebsebseb> killindillin: I am saying you can make some more space, by  moving data off your internal hard disk yeah
[01:11] <alecwh_d> bernz: i'll check it out, is there a quick way to do it?
[01:11] <killindillin> k now i get u
[01:11] <bernz> alecwh_d, basically, when your computer starts, it goes through various "run levels", which are "how much you can interact with it" in most systems, so on one of the lower levels, you could add a command to its start script to launch your custom thingy (e.g. modprobe or whatever)
[01:11] <WizMedic> It works! new to ubuntu and got xchat to work.
[01:11] <JanneJM2> I'm unable to install 8.10 amd64 version on a Dell Precision with NVIDIA Quadro graphics. The install CD boots at first (with the progress bar graphic), but drops into a console. Running "startx" just gives me "Fatal server error: no screens found". The graphics cards are listed when I do "lspci".
[01:11] <sebsebseb> killindillin: altough it depends what kind of data you have really, because if you only got  small files
[01:12] <freeksh0w86> Why can't Audacity and youtube vids just share the sound device instead of fighting over it?
[01:12] <killindillin> important stuff on a cd and crud can stay on hdd
[01:12] <killindillin> thus freeing stuff up
[01:12] <killindillin> ??
[01:12] <bernz> alecwh_d, if you poke around in '/etc/init.d/', you'll quickly see the general structure; then edit the appropriate 'rc' file as root (use sudo on your editor), and find a good spot... these scripts are shell-like, so if you know shell scripts (like batch files), you'll see the spot to put your command soon)
[01:12] <schnauzer> freeksh0w86: what version of audacity do you have?
[01:13] <alecwh_d> bernz: thanks
[01:13] <alecwh_d> a lot!
[01:13] <sebsebseb> killindillin: well  for a dual boot.  you need to make your self.  well  you do the maths :D   ,but  the  Ubuntu / partition should be like 16GB.    a 1GB swap partition.  and a seperate home partition that is a few GB's or more.
[01:13] <bernz> alecwh_d, no worries
[01:13] <freeksh0w86> schnauzer: the version that is in the default repos of Ubuntu 8.10 64-bit
[01:13] <sebsebseb> killindillin: you don't even know what I mean by those yet?
[01:13] <AnyaJ> this might sound like a dumb question, but when installing libraries, where is the typical place to install them if many people will be accessing them?
[01:13] <AnyaJ> i mean many users
[01:13] <freeksh0w86> 1.3.5-beta?
[01:13] <sebsebseb> killindillin: / is  where Ubuntu and all it's programs go
[01:14] <killindillin> sebsebseb:i know what u mean but what is swap
[01:14] <sebsebseb> killindillin: swap is virtual memory,  hard disk space, that it will use as if it were RAM, if it's needed
[01:14] <sebsebseb> !swap
[01:15] <bernz> alecwh_d, on my desktop intrepid, i have '/etc/init.d/rc' -- that's not necessarily *the* best file to use, but it's close, and maybe okay -- the experts can make a call here if they are at their keyboards :-)
[01:15] <sebsebseb> killindillin: have you tried Ubuntu from the Live CD or something already?
[01:15] <cactaur> Does gdebi come with Intrepid?
[01:15] <Luksor> algum programador python?
[01:15] <[-VIM-]> !info gdebi
[01:15] <schnauzer> freeksh0w86: That's odd, I don't have any problems with audacity & fighting over sound...
[01:15] <[-VIM-]> yep
[01:15] <killindillin> no i was goin to try knoppix first
[01:15] <killindillin> see if i like linux
[01:15] <freeksh0w86> schnauzer: whoah this is odd... audacity FINALLY let me select Alsa: default as the output and that worked lol
[01:15] <sebsebseb> killindillin: you run the ISO's of Live CD's inside Virtualbox instead of burning to CD, by the way
[01:16] <alecwh_d> bernz: looking through the file, it looks like code... while I can follow the logical structure, where should I put my command?
[01:16] <bernz> AnyaJ, i think '/usr/lib' is the place
[01:16] <sebsebseb> killindillin: Knoppix is a nice Live CD distro, but  for  a proper distro  Ubuntu is a great one
[01:16] <freeksh0w86> All I can say... PulseAudio will never be as l33t as ALSA or DirectSound and killing its process is the best solution :/
[01:16] <killindillin> i probly will like it because linux is half command promt and half desktop....right??
[01:16] <schnauzer> freeksh0w86: maybe that's what I did... I remember I changed some sort of configuration to get it to behave, just couldn't remember what it was
[01:16] <killindillin> ya i know bout knoppix j
[01:17] <killindillin> k*
[01:17] <bernz> AnyaJ, and of course, a subdir of "your own" in there, not just right in '/usr/lib'... or... maybe just right in there... i dunno :-) you can read up about the "standard linux file system hierarchy" or something similar (maybe 'unix' in place of 'linux' in the previous)
[01:17] <sebsebseb> killindillin: that depends on the distro, but yes  the shell (terminal) is very powerful  in Linux
[01:17] <AnyaJ> thanks bernz i will.
[01:17] <killindillin> ya like msdos and half xp right???
[01:17] <sebsebseb> !shell
[01:17] <bernz> alecwh_d, well, you want to find the runlevel that will be probably "before" X starts (usually that's a high number), and you want it there for your "command line only" level (single-user, i think it's called)
[01:18] <sebsebseb> heh even ubottu says it's very powerful :d
[01:18] <frank_austin> bernz: I'm still really stuck because although the basic desktop comes up there is no network etc. It seems like something is stopping part way through starting all of the usual services.
[01:18] <bernz> alecwh_d, so maybe level 2 or 3... take a look at whatever handles those
[01:18] <ader10> I can't install mpd. Please help. http://pastebin.com/m66090cce
[01:18] <crink> !opengl
[01:18] <sebsebseb> killindillin: Ubuntu  can be  GUI GUI GUI GUI,  or it can be comands commands commands commands
[01:18] <sebsebseb> killindillin: or a mixture of both
[01:19] <bernz> frank_austin, hmm... well, i had lots of wifi network problems in kubuntu on my laptop, but that was a few releases ago (probably 6 or 7)
[01:19] <crink> !microcode
[01:19] <sebsebseb> killindillin: other distros, are mainly about commands
[01:19] <bernz> (erm, probably release numbers 6 or 7)
[01:19] <bernz> alecwh_d, i'm going to look at my 'rc'...
[01:19] <oh_noes> Whats the difference between compiz, and using 'Extra' effects in Apperance tab?
[01:19] <diguinho> hi. anyone know why I'm selecting New York on the clock but it's saying EDT instead of EST
[01:20] <killindillin> sebsebseb:thank you.....so i can run command line...command line with desktop with command line as more of a priority...or i can have half and half
[01:20] <lstarnes> diguinho: it is eastern daylight time during daylight savings time
[01:20] <alecwh_d> bernz: gah, I'm looking. I really should invest more time in learning linux directory structure.
[01:20] <sebsebseb> killindillin: we got  newbie friendly  distros,  where  they have graphical installers and  nice graphical programs.   then  text based installer distros with  a lot of commandline as well.
[01:20] <diguinho> but I want to know EST hour
[01:20] <diguinho> not EDT
[01:20] <lstarnes> diguinho: EDT - 1
[01:20] <sebsebseb> killindillin: well Ubuntu calls it the terminal, but the more hardcore Linux people will call it The Shell
[01:20] <basti> ader10, google the error and you will find thsi: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/PulseAudio#For_Distros_where_PulseAudio_output_is_broken
[01:20] <JanneJM2> Anyone? I'm unable to install 8.10 amd64 version on a Dell Precision with NVIDIA Quadro graphics. The install CD boots at first (with the progress bar graphic), but drops into a console. Running "startx" just gives me "Fatal server error: no screens found". The graphics cards are listed when I do "lspci".
[01:20] <bernz> alecwh_d, yes, once you get a few important branches "inside your head", things go much smoother/faster :-)
[01:21] <diguinho> i never know if -1 gmt count clockwise or counter
[01:21] <frank_austin> bernz: yes, well... this was an upgrade that has caused a theme ?reset and seems to have prevented a lot of my startup programs from running, including the network manager. Strangely tomboy notes come up fine so its got a fair way down the list.
[01:21] <diguinho> anyway
[01:21] <bernz> alecwh_d, near the end of the file is a 'rc.boot' mentioned... maybe that's the ticket?
[01:21] <diguinho> is it summer time in NY?
[01:21] <lstarnes> diguinho: it is
[01:21] <basti> ader10, i mean this http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/PulseAudio#For_Distros_where_PulseAudio_access_rights_are_broken
[01:21] <sebsebseb> killindillin: software is much quicker to install  in Ubuntu with commands, but  there is also a rather nice  Synaptic Package Manager which is graphical
[01:21] <killindillin> sebsebseb: i know that...but i'm a linux noob....and a windows geek...so explain it to me as a noob
[01:21] <alecwh_d> bernz: maybe I should put the command in the /etc/rc.boot file?
[01:21] <bernz> frank_austin, i wouldn't depend on order in the list to tell you anything solid about what's going wrong (but that's just my gut)
[01:22] <Sagaci> spring time
[01:22] <bernz> alecwh_d, precisely, that might get executed on every boot -- just what you want
[01:22] <andrewfree> Im trying to get an email server working but the telnet part is being weird! I cant tell why it only works one way http://www.grabup.com/uploads/3630815f1ca8d97e093b821f894794ad.png?direct
[01:22] <ader10> basti: thank you (I was searching but didn't come across that)
[01:22] <basti> http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&q=E%3A+client-conf-x11.c%3A+XOpenDisplay()+failed&btnG=Suche&meta=
[01:22] <bernz> alecwh_d, what i might also do is some research on this "rc.boot" -- is it a typical/common file on 'nix systems, etc?
[01:22] <sebsebseb> killindillin:  think of add or remove programs in Windows.  Now imagine if you could search for programs in it that you wanted to install.   Then were able to just  say that you wanted to install them, and it downloaded and installed it for you.   There it was on the menu,   you didn't have to run an installer.   Well that's what you get with Synaptic Package Manager.
[01:22] <bernz> alecwh_d, you might even do 'man rc.boot' for more info
[01:23] <ader10> basix: It doesn't work.
[01:23] <frank_austin> bernz: ok, I'll see if its something there...
[01:23] <alecwh_d> bernz: thanks a lot!
[01:23] <sebsebseb> killindillin: the terminal for example:  sudo apt-get install  programname  and  it just downloads it off the server and installs it for you,  and there it is in the menu.  ,but menus?   you don't need a menu to open programs,  just  put the name of it in the terminal  press enter and it opens
[01:23] <diguinho> 21:00 EDT is 20:00 EST ?
[01:23] <lstarnes> diguinho: yes
[01:23] <nightrid3r> andrewfree: your smtp is listening only to <IP_ADDRESS> edit the conf
[01:24] <andrewfree> nightrid3r: /etc/ what one?
[01:24] <bernz> sebsebseb, it's kinda like a One True Download Website for great apps, with no spam, no BS, no dead links, no ads, and tested, working, actively-developed software!  holy crap! :-D
[01:24] <nightrid3r> andrewfree: depends on the smtpd
[01:24] <killindillin> sebsebseb,thank you.....thank u...thank u....3/4 of you guys i cant undestand.
[01:24] <andrewfree> nightrid3r: Postfix
[01:24] <bernz> (and most importantly, not dependent on a web browser)
[01:24] <killindillin> bernz, thank u
[01:24] <sebsebseb> killindillin: yep thousands of packages (programs are called packages in Linux)  you can get just like that
[01:24] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: .
[01:25] <sebsebseb> killindillin: websites lol,  only for stuff that isn't in the repo,  but not much of that you will want to run anyway
[01:25] <nightrid3r> andrewfree: /etc/postfix/postfix.conf
[01:25] <bernz> alecwh_d, okay, if that works -- maybe post a blurb about it here (for the log, and searchers) -- saying how you fixed your problem :-)
[01:25] <sebsebseb> !repo
[01:25] <killindillin> cool no more bs
[01:25] <alecwh_d> bernz: okay!
[01:25] <frank_austin> bernz: it looks like the latest 8.10 updates have seriously broken something. When I try to launch nm-applet at the command line I get 'libnssutil3.so.1d: cannot open...
[01:25] <bernz> killindillin, yeah, no worries -- i felt like a kid in a candy store the first time i ran 'Add/Remove' :-D
[01:26] <andrewfree> nightrid3r: Its blank!! wtf
[01:26] <sebsebseb> killindillin: yes and did you read it or someone tell you?  no viruses or spyware or  any of that either.  well they can make for LInux, but you have to know what your doing  to instal it.  or  have no firewall. and a really bad  password
[01:26] <killindillin> thanx
[01:26] <bernz> frank_austin, well, it'll be painful, but you can reinstall the missing libs one by one until things are back to normal... use synaptic if it's still working
[01:26] <sebsebseb> killindillin: ever been in the Windows registry messing around?    how boring and tedicious yes?
[01:27] <nightrid3r> andrewfree: /etc/postfix/main.cf
[01:27] <frank_austin> bernz: with no network that is a tad tricky
[01:27] <killindillin> kind of
[01:27] <killindillin> ya
[01:27] <frank_austin> bernz: trying for a CD...
[01:27] <bernz> frank_austin, if X is too busted, use 'aptitude' from a terminal
[01:27] <sebsebseb> killindillin: home is like  a cross between,  my documents, program files,   and the windows registry, but done right  as user data files for programs in  hidden .folders
[01:27] <bernz> frank_austin, don't forget to 'sudo'
[01:27] <killindillin> cool
[01:27] <Bagualas> I have a asus g2s and all my sound isnt working... just the top speakers... what can that be? please help!
[01:27] <nightrid3r> andrewfree: http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[01:28] <killindillin> brb got to go google something
[01:28] <sebsebseb> killindillin: so let's say your using Firefox and your profile has gone wrong.  you could just delete the .mozilla folder and  it would be like you had a clean install  again of Firefox
[01:28] <AnyaJ> i'm trying to get lesstif on my system
[01:28] <frank_austin> bernz: thanks... back soon.
[01:28] <bernz> frank_austin, oh, right -- argh... well... if you still have your install CD, you can tell some package managers/libs (e.g. apt) to get sources from the CD, and avoid the network
[01:28] <AnyaJ> how do i know which of the packages i need?
[01:28] <AnyaJ> in the repositories, that is
[01:28] <sebsebseb> AnyaJ: depends what you want to do, which is?
[01:28] <AnyaJ> use the lesstif library
[01:28] <[-VIM-]> sebsebseb: or just run firefox in terminal with -ProfileManger switch :)
[01:29] <bernz> AnyaJ, use 'synaptic' and it will auto-dependency for you
[01:29] <AnyaJ> bernz, where do i do that?
[01:29] <AnyaJ> in terminal?
[01:29] <frank_austin> bernz: is there an easy way I can lookup which package supplies libnssutil3.so.1d?
[01:29] <bernz> AnyaJ, in the System | Administration menu
[01:29] <bernz> AnyaJ, there's 'Synaptic Package Manager'
[01:29] <andrewfree> nightrid3r: Nope..  oem@freekbox:/etc/postfix$ ls
[01:29] <andrewfree> dynamicmaps.cf  main.cf  master.cf  postfix-files  postfix-script  post-install  sasl
[01:29] <AnyaJ> sebsebseb, there's lesstif2 lesstif2-dev, lesstif-bin, one for fortran, one for gfortran
[01:29] <AnyaJ> bernz, i'm in there
[01:29] <bernz> AnyaJ, use the search widget to whittle down the list, find your target, and pick install type
[01:30] <nightrid3r> andrewfree: main.cf is there
[01:30] <sebsebseb> bernz: why teaching him/her the slow way?
[01:30] <sebsebseb> bernz: it seems they want to use the commandline
[01:30] <AnyaJ> bernz, but the problem is knowing which one i need
[01:30] <Bagualas> why ubuntu isnt reproducing sound in all the speakers of my notebook?
[01:30] <AnyaJ> thank you sebsebseb
[01:30] <Bagualas> just in the front ;(
[01:30] <AnyaJ> finally, sebsebseb an equal opportunity genderizer
[01:30] <abacan> would someone help me about how to separate debug info from executable?
[01:30] <sebsebseb> AnyaJ: :)  yeah thought you were a woman
[01:30] <sebsebseb> AnyaJ: by the name
[01:30] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: as with all debian library packages, libBLA is the actual compiled library used by depending programs, libBLA-dev is the source headers you NEED to compile stuff against it, and libBLA-bin is auxiliary executables to go with it.
[01:31] <bernz> sebsebseb, well, i figure most users start with the desktop and migrate to the shell when they get more familiar with the system :-)
[01:31] <AnyaJ> heh heh alex-weej !!!
[01:31] <AnyaJ> thanks =)
[01:31] <sebsebseb> AnyaJ: sudo aptitude programname   also deals with dependancies better than apt-get
[01:31] <AnyaJ> alex-weej, do i need bin
[01:31] <sebsebseb> bernz: true, but they were in the terminal asking about it, so they must know something
[01:31] <bernz> AnyaJ, oh, i see -- what alex-weej said :-D
[01:32] <bernz> sebsebseb, fair enough
[01:32] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: unlikely.
[01:32] <hajmola> will ibex be upgraded to gnome 2.26?
[01:32] <alex-weej> hajmola: yes
[01:32] <AnyaJ> thanks so much, alex-weej i think i know what i need
[01:32] <alex-weej> hajmola: no.
[01:32] <AnyaJ> and thanks for getting me off of manual installation.  i'm always for learning where i am screwing up
[01:32] <alex-weej> hajmola: code names confuse me, sorry :P
[01:32] <Plasmon> need help, i was using partition magic, deleted my ubuntu partition so i could merge 2 ntfs partitions and now my grub partition is gone, not just grub itself
[01:32] <bernz> frank_austin, so, in that case, you can use stuff like 'apt-get install' and 'apt-get remove' to install and remove packages
[01:32] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: manual inst is something ex-windows users think they need to do
[01:32] <[-VIM-]> "will gnome be upgraded" would be more accurate of a question
[01:33] <bernz> frank_austin, and too adjust its sources (to avoid network, and use CD), there's a file at... (looking)
[01:33] <andrewfree> nightrid3r: im reading but I still dont know how to allow others to access it
[01:33] <sebsebseb> AnyaJ: Synaptic can be good at times, but it's so slow compared to the commands
[01:33] <bernz> frank_austin, /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:33] <hajmola> alex-weej: oh that's ok... so jaunty (9.04) will come with 2.26
[01:33] <bernz> frank_austin, you can read about that (probably in manual) for details
[01:33] <nightrid3r> andrewfree: change <IP_ADDRESS> to the ip of the box
[01:33] <alex-weej> hajmola: yes, it already has it
[01:33] <AnyaJ> alex-weej, why do they think they need to do that
[01:33] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: because that is what they are used to doing
[01:34] <AnyaJ> alex-weej, is there any value in it... honestly?
[01:34] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: no
[01:34] <andrewfree> nightrid3r: I cant find that in the main conf file I have this thou.. "mynetworks = <IP_ADDRESS>/8 [::ffff:<IP_ADDRESS>]/104 [::1]/128
[01:34] <andrewfree> "
[01:34] <AnyaJ> control over the situation maybe?
[01:34] <[-VIM-]> synaptic is good for searching, terminal is better for installing something you already know, of course you can search with terminal too 'apt-cache search xchat' for example
[01:34] <AnyaJ> -p
[01:35] <nightrid3r> adre
[01:35] <nightrid3r> andrewfree: mynetworks = all
[01:35] <AnyaJ> sebsebseb, so if i go to synaptic, and then i get what i want , and go to terminal and type say.... sudo apt-get install lesstif2-dev.... will all the dependencies be installed along with it?
[01:35] <Flannel> AnyaJ: Yes
[01:35] <bernz> sebsebseb, beware of the "command line is the best, so anyone not using it is "wrong"" monster ;-)
[01:35] <AnyaJ> nice
[01:36] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: but you can do it all within synaptic...
[01:36] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: if you know what you need to do you can do it quicker with apt-get/aptitude command line
[01:36] <sebsebseb> bernz: yeah well I open up synaptic for stuff I am not sure the name of :d  ok sure I know there is some command to find out, but anyway
[01:36] <AnyaJ> alex-weej, thanks
[01:36] <AnyaJ> ok i'm ready to reinstall everything =)
[01:36] <GeorgeAScott> how do i fix "libraul.so.2: cannot open shared object file"  trying to run patchage...
[01:36] <bernz> sebsebseb, i completely agree that command-line with expertise is best, but it takes most users a long time to be "comfortable" with it ;-)
[01:36] <trinidad_> i have a question. I am running ubuntu 8.10 dual booted with vista.  last night i whiped out my vista partition and resized it then reinstalled vista business.  everything went fine with that.  my question is when i reinstalled the grub via the live disk i now have two initrd.img and 2 vimlinz one of each was renamed to .old can i delete those old files?
[01:37] <AnyaJ> but i still think manual installation is imminent if your repositories don't contain your library, alex-weej
[01:37] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: no, just backport the deb
[01:37] <AnyaJ> crap more terminology!
[01:37] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: ;)
[01:37] <nightrid3r> trinidad_: if all works then yes
[01:37] <bernz> sebsebseb, and i've learned over the years that people always stop me and say "wait, gearhead, you're getting too technical", so i've adjusted my approach accordingly  ;-=)
[01:38] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: you basically just get the source PACKAGE for e.g. jaunty 9.04 (not the original .tar.gz) and rebuild it for 8.10
[01:38] <bernz> (anyway :-)
[01:38] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: most of the time it works fine
[01:38] <trinidad_> thank you i was not sure if i could is there anything else that i will have to do when i do that
[01:38] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: and you can then just deploy that .deb file
[01:38] <Flannel> bernz, sebsebseb: absolutely nothing wrong with explaining how to use synaptic.  For most people, it does exactly what they need, and terminal commands don't offer much, if any, benefits.
[01:39] <AnyaJ> alex-weej, but WHY?
[01:39] <AnyaJ> that sounds like unnecessary extra work
[01:39] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: it's less work, actually.
[01:40] <AnyaJ> oh.
[01:40] <andrewfree> nightrid3r: Stlll not working
[01:40] <nightrid3r> andrewfree: restart postfix
[01:40] <andrewfree> already did that
[01:40] <AnyaJ> alex-weej, you said: libcoin60 is in 9.04, but... are y ou suggesting i do with it what you just said?
[01:40] <bernz> alex-weej, i guess not all people are familiar with building from source yet ;-)
[01:41] <AnyaJ> bernz alex-weej is it really SAFE to do that??
[01:41] <alex-weej> yes. most of the time the only reason it isn't in older versions is because it hasn't been requested
[01:41] <Flannel> AnyaJ: It is safe (assuming the source doesn't have bugs)
[01:41] <bernz> it's totally safe to do that, AnyaJ, yes
[01:41] <Flannel> !prevu | AnyaJ
[01:41] <AnyaJ> is it something worth learning?
[01:41] <alex-weej> ooh didn't know about prevu. that sounds cool.
[01:41] <Flannel> AnyaJ: just use prevu.  It does all the heavy lifting for you.
[01:41] <AnyaJ> *sigh*
[01:41] <nightrid3r> andrewfree: try rplaceing ALL with your actual ip
[01:41] <bernz> AnyaJ, it simply depends on your comfort level with the particular approach; it's totally worth learning how to build your own builds
[01:41] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: if you are going to be developing, i recommend you consider just using 9.04
[01:42] <sebsebseb> !jaunty
[01:42] <andrewfree> k
[01:42] <bernz> AnyaJ, if you are going to be developing (not sure where i gleaned that for certain), you DEFINITELY need to be very comfortable with building
[01:42] <racerx> can someone help me with vpn connection?
[01:42] <AnyaJ> ok so i can learn to build with prevu?
[01:43] <lucax> how can i configure the resolution of my webcam on flash 10?
[01:43] <AnyaJ> not tonight though, i've got a ton to do and i've got to make this big clunk of code run
[01:43] <alex-weej> lucax: frankly you're lucky it even works at all. adobe suck.
[01:44] <alex-weej> AnyaJ: prevu looks like a piece of cake
[01:44] <storm-zen> How can I identify my soundcard?  I think lspci has the wrong information.
[01:44] <AnyaJ> ok
[01:44] <racerx> anyone out there has successful vpn connection? I need help. I can ping by ip and by name resolution, but it is not connecting.
[01:45] <bernz> frank_austin, the package name itself should appear in aptitude
[01:45] <andrewfree> nightrid3r: still no
[01:45] <lucax> alex-weej, im streaming in ustream and thats the only solution i found, i installed adobe from adobes web and everything is working very ok, but with low resolution... i thought i could be v4l but it says thats running on 640x480 resolution and in flash i get 160x120
[01:45] <bernz> frank_austin, otherwise, Web search on that name, and see if it's a smaller part of something else
[01:45] <dbbolton> my old desktop won't boot or display the bios when i turn it on. instead the pc speaker beeps repeatedly. what should i check?
[01:46] <nightrid3r> andrewfree: try #postfix then maybe they can help you
[01:46] <timob> i am using intrepid... anyone else have trouble with the spelling in pidgin?
[01:46] <dbbolton> timob make sure aspell is installed for your locale
[01:46] <marcusdavidus> hi
[01:47] <bernz> dbbolton, your IDE drive connectors are backwards, your RAM is misaligned/not fully seated, or... hmm... not sure what else
[01:47] <sebsebseb> timob:  not as such, but I woudn't rely on Pidgin for checking spelling
[01:47] <dbbolton> bernz could it be the video card?
[01:48] <bernz> dbbolton, oh yeah, probably any peripheral uses a row-of-finger-contacts connector could do it
[01:48] <frank_austin> bernz: I tried that search but got nothing. My best guess package (libnss3-1d) is not on the CD (or at least I can't mark it for re-installation :()
[01:48] <bernz> dbbolton, so reseat everything (absolutely everything that can be plugged/unplugged)
[01:50] <timob> sebsebseb: thanks... no i dont sound so stupid :)
[01:50] <timob> now
[01:50] <sebsebseb> timob: uh?  what did I help you with?
[01:50] <Dreamglider> anyone know it there is a way to add CDFS filesystem to gparted in ubuntu  ?
[01:51] <timob> aspell locale package
[01:51] <bernz> hmm.. frank_austin, did you know that you are using a "one", not an "ell" (lower-case) in your filename? i believe that file should end in "ell dee", not "one dee"
[01:51] <sebsebseb> timob: oh the Pidgin spelling guy yeah
[01:51] <sebsebseb> timob: may I recommend Abiword, for spelling and grammer checker
[01:51] <sebsebseb> timob: it may not be perfect, but it seems to be pretty good
[01:51] <sebsebseb> timob: oh I guess you need 8.10 or you get a rubbish version from the repo in 8.04
[01:51] <bernz> Dreamglider, it might be that gparted is designed not to work on CDFS because it's a read-only system
[01:52] <sam555_> has anyone used firestarter firewall in Ubuntu?
[01:52] <sebsebseb> sam555_: of course
[01:52] <LogicFan> anyone heard of alsa dying when power management kicks in?
[01:52] <bernz> Dreamglider, are you trying to make an image of the CD, or...?  (you can use 'dd' for that, probably)
[01:52] <sam555_> sebsebseb: how do you enable it so that you can chose lan in the port policy section?
[01:52] <sebsebseb> sam555_: firestarter is not that good according to many people.   if you got a  hardware firewall enabled in your router, you should be ok
[01:52] <sebsebseb> sam555_: it's been ages since I did anything with firestarter, also you might want to learn something about iptables :D
[01:52] <sebsebseb> !iptables
[01:53] <LogicFan> it seems everytime i let my laptop sit for a bit, alsa dies and i have to force reload alsa to get sound back
[01:53] <sam555_> sebsebseb: mahalo!
[01:53] <sebsebseb> sam555_: wtf?
[01:53] <sam555_> sebsebseb: it means "thank you" in Hawaiian
[01:53] <bernz> LogicFan, all i know is that Linux support for ACPI (power mgmt) has been a bit behind the times until recently, so there may be fixes forthcoming soon
[01:53] <Bagualas> why ubuntu isnt reproducing sound in all the speakers of my notebook?
[01:54] <wanna_learn_more> hi..i have a problem with my filesystem.almost all of my file become read only.i used ubuntu 8.10
[01:54] <LogicFan> bernz, judging by my google searches, a lot of people have issues with it, alsa just doesn't wake back up
[01:54] <Stargazer> How do i check how much file space i have using the command line ?
[01:54] <tallyn> can anyone help me with my ATI video card?
[01:54] <georgy_28> Stargazer, : df -h
[01:54] <sebsebseb> !ati
[01:54] <JuzProdtionz> Hey, Im intalling ubuntu 4 the first.  Im at the part "prepare disk space" I do that, then it I get prompted it will take a sec.  Then I get ERROR resize operation failure
[01:54] <LogicFan> the thing that really irks me is that i have to restart all applications that use sound in order for them to properly work again after forcing a alsa restart
[01:54] <bernz> Bagualas, have you tested the speakers with another OS/distro to confirm there's no hardware problem? also, did you check that your balance is centered? many people left- or right-shift their balance inadvertently and forget about it
[01:54] <Appocc> hey... could anybod help me to replace dhcp client for dhcpcd as client???
[01:55] <sebsebseb> wanna_learn_more: you been messing with file permissions?
[01:55] <Appocc> my ubuntu cant get dhcp connections
[01:55] <bernz> LogicFan, i guess it's being worked on (hopefully), but check the bug list for ALSA to see if your issue is listed, and if not, make a report :-)
[01:55] <Stargazer> Ty georgy_28
[01:55] <JuzProdtionz> After the prepare disk space fails it scans disk and brings me to Prepare Partions
[01:55] <XeKtRuM> hello
[01:55] <JuzProdtionz> I don't think I will ever get ubuntu to intsall dang
[01:56] <XeKtRuM> how do I activate the execution of /etc/rc.local ?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> JuzProdtionz: ok  your resizing Windows partition?
[01:56] <Bagualas> bernz, yeah, tested... the notebook has sound in front, and under it
[01:56] <JuzProdtionz> Yes
[01:56] <wanna_learn_more> hi..i have a problem with my filesystem.almost all of my file become read only.i used ubuntu 8.10
[01:56] <JuzProdtionz> sesebseb: Yes
[01:56] <sebsebseb> JuzProdtionz: do the file system check on the NTFS
[01:56] <bernz> JuzProdtionz, you should learn a bit about partitioning (it will be useful for the rest of your life, as long as we have these crappy PC-like computer systems and their DOS-based partitioning :-)
[01:56] <wanna_learn_more> sebsebseb:looks like because of filesystem error
[01:56] <sebsebseb> JuzProdtionz: in Windows I guess yeah  damn what is it again hum
[01:57] <wanna_learn_more> sebsebseb:when i tried to reboot it always checking for file system
[01:57] <JuzProdtionz> I can partion pc but I heard linux could partion itself so i thought i would learn later
[01:57] <XeKtRuM> how do I activate the execution at start of /etc/rc.local ?
[01:57] <AnyaJ> how can you tell when you've gotten rid of all of a library off of your computer
[01:57] <AnyaJ> ?
[01:57] <wanna_learn_more> sebsebseb:after performing system maintenance,press CONTROL-D
[01:57] <sebsebseb> JuzProdtionz: your NTFS partition  needs to be checked I think
[01:57] <sebsebseb> !ntfs
[01:58] <sebsebseb> !chkdsk
[01:58] <Tamnakz> Can anyone help me configure wireless on an Acer 5315-2326?
[01:58] <AnyaJ> a library you installed yourself, that is
[01:58] <sebsebseb> !permissions |  wanna_learn_more
[01:58] <JuzProdtionz> I there anything I can do under prepar partions it give me an option to build a New Partion Table
[01:58] <bernz> JuzProdtionz, are you aiming to obliterate the contents of the drive and replace with Linux? if so, you can just run the partitioner manually, delete the partitions, and restart the installation
[01:58] <mylisto> hey all
[01:58] <Tamnakz> Let me rephrase: I need to configure wireless on an Acer 5315-2326 without internet access. I need to be able to download files onto another computer and transfer to the Acer with a jump drive
[01:58] <sebsebseb> JuzProdtionz: that would get rid of Windows basicalley
[01:59] <mylisto> anyone have problems getting a gigaware usb headset to work in intrepid?
[01:59] <JuzProdtionz> No I am trying to dual boot
[01:59] <mylisto> It works in skype but nothing else
[01:59] <QPrime> JuzProdtionz: boot into windows and run a cmd prompt.  type "chkdsk c: /f" (no quotes) answer yes to the questions and reboot into windows again.  it will check and repair.
[01:59] <sebsebseb> JuzProdtionz: well  either the partition is bad or the hard disk, because you should be able to resize the NTFS
[01:59] <donkey> I need some help. When im on Myspace.com i cannot view all my pictures.... How do i fix the issue???? It is also on other web pages!
[01:59] <bernz> Bagualas, do you have another Linux distro you can try? maybe you can see how the two differ if the other works (ALSA, and other stuff)
[01:59] <sebsebseb> QPrime: :) that's what I was saying to do that, but I didn't know the command
[01:59] <JuzProdtionz> Ok I am clicking on Guided resize and giving linux 80 gibs (which there is 160gb free)
[01:59] <sebsebseb> JuzProdtionz: do what QPrime said then come back
[02:00] <Bagualas> bernz, i think ill try another
[02:00] <Dusk_> i installed icedtea and flash plugins in 64bit ubuntu but in youtube videos i see a grey screen..what should i do?
[02:00] <AnyaJ> alex-weej, you still around?
[02:00] <QPrime> sebsebseb: no prob ;)
[02:00] <alex-weej> hi
[02:00] <mylisto> just trying to figure out how to get my usb headset to work properly...
[02:00] <AnyaJ> i am supposedly having a runtime error in my code because i have versions of a library installed on my computer
[02:00] <wanna_learn_more> sebsebseb:isnt about permission.but its an error
[02:00] <JuzProdtionz> what does chkdsk do- does it take long?
[02:00] <AnyaJ> i did a make uninstall on one version, but i still get the same runtime error.
[02:00] <AnyaJ> how can i make sure one version is completely off my computer?
[02:01] <sebsebseb> JuzProdtionz: it gets Windows to check it's partition for errors after re booting
[02:01] <Tamnakz> I need to configure wireless on an Acer 5315-2326 without internet access. I need to be able to download files onto another computer and transfer to the Acer with a jump drive. Any help?
[02:01] <donkey> I need some help. When im on Myspace.com i cannot view all my pictures.... How do i fix the issue???? It is also on other web pages!
[02:01] <AnyaJ> i did a make uninstall alex-weej
[02:01] <JuzProdtionz> OK, I will do that
[02:01] <LogicFan> bernz, if sound stops working, do you know how to view alsa's status?
[02:01] <sebsebseb> donkey: which browser?
[02:01] <JuzProdtionz> BRB
[02:01] <donkey> mozilla
[02:01] <sebsebseb> donkey: try another browser?
[02:01] <QPrime> JuzProdtionz: it checks (and tries to repair) your ntfs filesystem.  if can take a while but it depends on the size of the partition and the number fo files you have on that partition.
[02:01] <QPrime> *it
[02:01] <Dusk_> i installed icedtea and flash plugins in 64bit ubuntu but in youtube videos i see a grey screen..what should i do? the screen is like that: http://omploader.org/vMWVlcA
[02:01] <donkey> what other one on ubuntu?
[02:01] <sebsebseb> donkey: loads of good ones
[02:01] <bernz> LogicFan, are you in GNOME desktop? if so, do you have a sound icon in the tray at the top (usually)?
[02:02] <donkey> tell me a really good one
[02:02] <LogicFan> bernz, yes to both
[02:02] <sebsebseb> donkey:   sudo apt-get install  galeon  epiphany-browser
[02:02] <bernz> LogicFan, carefully double-click the icon itself, and you should get some options
[02:02] <marcusdavidus> anyone got "hangs" on ppm on linx in firefox ? its dont show menu or just  do random action from ppm menu when try to open links
[02:02] <danielr2010> anybody know a way to boost the volume on a laptop running ubuntu, when i had windows the default volume was allowed to be louder than it can be now.
[02:02] <sebsebseb> donkey: Konqueror is alright, but that will put KDE stuff on  as well
[02:02] <bernz> LogicFan, from that dialog, you can get to 'Preferences...' (button near bottom-right)
[02:03] <sebsebseb> donkey: Mozilla Suite was before Firefox, but it lives on as Seamonkey,  Seamonkey  is quite nice
[02:03] <tallyn> so I installed the ATI driver once and had everything working, even compiz desktop effects
[02:03] <tallyn> and now nothing
[02:03] <tallyn> can anyone help me out?
[02:03] <bernz> use the 'Device' pick-list to find ALSA stuff, and maybe you can see status somehow
[02:03] <donkey> im doing that first one you said and see how it does
[02:03] <sebsebseb> donkey: that was two browsers
[02:03] <marcusdavidus> so anyone get same issue with firefox ?
[02:03] <crdlb> tallyn: what GPU, and what version of ubuntu?
[02:03] <sebsebseb> donkey: epiphany might not even add itself to the menu, but you can open apps from the terminal with their name and then pressing enter:  epiphany-browser
[02:03] <LogicFan> bernz, yes, but it doesn't tell me the status of alsa itself.  the sound icon app doesn't crash when alsa dies. however, it will crash when i force a restart on alsa to get sound back with the cmd /sbin/alsa force-reload
[02:04] <bernz> sebsebseb, hey -- i just installed epiphany today (via 'Add/Remove...' -- shame on me, right? ;-)  .. anyway, i didn't get a shortcut on the menus -- any ideas?
[02:04] <dug_> anyone's wireless stop working after the recent 2.6.27-14 kernel upgrade?
[02:04] <donkey> well ill find out shortly
[02:04] <LogicFan> so the sound icon is not really indicative of alsa's actual functionality status
[02:04] <LogicFan> i hope that makes sense :)
[02:04] <sebsebseb> bernz: browse the hidden  folders.   the gnome stuff, it's there some where,    and then you can add to menu yourself I Think
[02:04] <sebsebseb> !menu
[02:04] <tallyn> crdlb: intrepid, and an ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
[02:04] <lightbots> boot time kernel option: all_generic_ide, how do I implement this option?
[02:04] <bernz> LogicFan, well, you can see ALSA-related demons like so from a shell: "ps aux | grep alsa | less"
[02:04] <Tamnakz> I need to configure wireless on an Acer 5315-2326 without internet access. I need to be able to download files onto another computer and transfer to the Acer with a jump drive
[02:04] <georgy_28> !alacarte
[02:05] <bernz> sebsebseb, ah yes, great idea! cheers
[02:05] <crdlb> tallyn: did you enable it in system > admin > hardware drivers ?
[02:05] <LjL> !fishing
[02:05] <sebsebseb> bernz: well wine stuff is left in  the menu,  after wine is gone, but I know there is a folder for that stuff, because I been there
[02:05] <doleyb> Tamnakz: yes, that sounds like a good plan.    Epiphany and Galeon are nice browsers.  of course I would  mainly use  Firefox for browsing the web, because of browser market share reasons
[02:05] <lightbots> boot time kernel option: all_generic_ide, how do I implement this option? do I write in in the terminal somehow?
[02:06] <LogicFan> bernz, sorry, not really sure what i'm looking at with that command
[02:06] <jaguar__>
[02:06] <bernz> Tamnakz, almost all OSes nowadays support USB MSC (mass storage class) devices like thumbdrives, so you're all set there, probably... you can transfer a package (e.g. something.deb) containing wifi drivers via USB stick, then install that, and maybe get it going... you will want to read about "madwifi" and "wpasupplicant" and "networkermanager" and a few other things, i think
[02:06] <tallyn> crdlb: yes, I enabled it there, but it fails now
[02:06] <crdlb> tallyn: what do you mean "fails"? you hit low graphics mode?
[02:07] <bernz> sebsebseb, for the shame, i meant because i did it via GUI, rather than command-line ;-) cuz i *can*... but i'm getting old and lazy :-D
[02:07] <georgy_28> lightbots, : do you mean add the module at boot ?
[02:07] <sebsebseb> bernz: did you miss my message about when I use synaptic :d
[02:08] <tallyn> crdlb: yes, I basically have very poor redraw rate when I am only moving windows around
[02:08] <lightbots> georgy: i suppose
[02:08] <sebsebseb> bernz: if I don't know the programs name I will use synaptic, altough I know there is some command that could be used instead
[02:08] <tallyn> crdlb: and compiz effects are definitely de-activated
[02:08] <bernz> LogicFan, so, "ps aux" == "show all processes, i mean all, dammit", then the "pipe" ('|') sends the output to "grep alsa", which looks for lines containing "alsa", then the output of that is sent to "less", a "pager" (a program that lets you read output page by page)
[02:08] <crdlb> tallyn: put your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old on a pastebin
[02:08] <georgy_28> lightbots, : you can add it in /etc/modules
[02:08] <Tamnakz> doleyb: I cannot find the tar.gz
[02:09] <extor> Uh Oh, Exploit code targeting major Intel chip flaw to be posted 3/19/09 ?
[02:09] <dug_> anyone know how to change the wireless driver back to the proprietary one?  my wireless stopped working the past day or two
[02:09] <bernz> sebsebseb, yeah, i'm sorry, i was just trying to be funny, but it wasn't really :-/ no worries anyway :-)
[02:09] <LogicFan> bernz, sorry, how do i interpret or scroll through the results?  all i'm seeing is " 5528  0.0  0.0   7480   880 pts/0    S+   19:08   0:00 grep alsa"
[02:09] <lightbots> georgy_28: thanks ill try that
[02:09] <bernz> LogicFan, ah, right, so...
[02:10] <bernz> LogicFan, well, that tells you ALSA is running (probably)... (was that not what you were trying to determine?)
[02:10] <dug_> !wireless
[02:10] <bernz> LogicFan, those lines tell you the process name (rightmost), its ID (pid), how much memory it's using, etc
[02:11] <karstensrage> what permissions do you set on /var/run so that services can create their .pid files?
[02:11] <bernz> LogicFan, "man ps" for details about those lines
[02:11] <l337m4573r> could anyone help me with hoking up my xbox 360 to share the internet through my laptop?
[02:11] <l337m4573r> hooking*
[02:11] <sebsebseb> AnyaJ: you here?
[02:11] <AnyaJ> yes i am
[02:11] <sebsebseb> AnyaJ: ok guys just showing Anya something
[02:11] <LogicFan> bernz, ok, thats good to know.  but i was hoping for something a little more like alsa's own errors.  so perhaps i could see which part of alsa stops functioning when power management kicks in
[02:11] <sebsebseb> !women
[02:11] <AnyaJ> lol
[02:12] <bernz> sebsebseb, incidentally, have you noticed any lag with firefox, and have you tried epiphany?
[02:12] <AnyaJ> !ubuntu
[02:12] <sebsebseb> bernz: I get issues with Firefox
[02:12] <wanna_learn_more> sebsebseb:its nothing will permission mr sebsebseb
[02:12] <AnyaJ> ooooo it works
[02:12] <wanna_learn_more> sebsebseb:but its an error
[02:12] <sebsebseb> bernz: Ubuntu's unoffical version.  in  Windows  Firefox  works  well
[02:12] <bernz> LogicFan, oh... ALSA almost surely keeps a log of its victories and failures... perhaps somewhere in '/etc' or '/var/log'?
[02:12] <sebsebseb> bernz: Firefox likes to crash a lot here.  that unoffical Ubuntu version.   I still haven't been arsed to try and sort  Firefox out more properly.  by say using a  officall Mozila version?
[02:13] <LogicFan> ah!  i'll check
[02:13] <donkey> im trying to get the epiphany-browser but it wont go unless galeon is it........ help me
[02:13] <bernz> LogicFan, in there, it might show you what's causing the problem
[02:13] <ader10> How do I search through a thread in the ubuntu forums?
[02:13] <rmmRMM> you may want to try iceeweasel
[02:13] <rmmRMM> iceweasel*
[02:13] <bernz> sebsebseb, fair enough -- i'm only trying to survive long enough for google chrome to be properly ported to GNOME
[02:14] <tom760> i went to turn my 8.10 ubuntu laptop back on from standby mode.  it didn't come up to the desktop.  it's stuck with a black screen.  any options besides just rebooting it and losing the open data?
[02:14] <ader10> rmmRMM: was that a response to me?
[02:14] <l337m4573r> could someone help me with some networking problems im having?
[02:14] <bernz> (i got crack-addicted to chrome just before i left windows)
[02:14] <donkey> im trying to get the epiphany-browser but it wont go unless galeon is it........ help me
[02:14] <rmmRMM> ader10: yes it was
[02:14] <ader10> rmmRMM: That response makes no sense ><
[02:14] <rmmRMM> ader10: iceweasel is a debian version of firefox, "cleaned"
[02:14] <bernz> donkey, i'm actually trying to install epiphany also
[02:14] <rmmRMM> would use different libraries
[02:14] <ader10> rmmRMM: You don't understand.
[02:14] <ader10> rmmRMM: I want to search through a thread
[02:15] <ader10> it's over 500 pages
[02:15] <rmmRMM> oh
[02:15] <bernz> donkey, this is the first i heard of 'galeon'... let me check it out
[02:15] <rmmRMM> ader10: thanks for clarifying
[02:15] <ader10> :)
[02:15] <doleyb> Tamnakz: http://snapshots.madwifi.org/madwifi-hal-<IP_ADDRESS>-current.tar.gz
[02:15] <sebsebseb> bernz: there was an article
[02:15] <crdlb> donkey: what do you mean? it won't go?
[02:15] <storbeck> bernz: chrome has been released
[02:15] <ader10> It's outrageous if you can't search through threads
[02:15] <donkey> says i have it but when i go to the internet tab its not listed
[02:16] <tom760> any special key combinations that might get my desktop to come back?  i just got a black screen trying to come out of standby on my laptop.
[02:16] <crdlb> Tamnakz: do you know what chipset it is?
[02:16] <extor> http://tinyurl.com/cukbtk
[02:16] <bernz> storbeck, sebsebseb, sweet jebus! my dreams have come true -- i hope it's largely unchanged, except to match the GNOME look and feel
[02:17] <storbeck> http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/03/17/google-chrome-on-linux-progressing-screenshots-inside/
[02:17] <crdlb> Tamnakz: if it's an atheros ar242x, a driver is included on the intrepid cd in linux-backports-modules-intrepid, just not installed by default
[02:17] <wrektkjet> testing
[02:17] <storbeck> Just add it to the repos and apt-get install it
[02:17] <donkey> crdlb is says i have the program but when i go to the internet tab (in the programs) epiphany-browser is not listed
[02:17] <l337m4573r> is there anyone in here that considers themselves to have a good knowledge of networking in ubuntu?
[02:17] <crdlb> donkey: yes, that's a bug in the packaging
[02:17] <sebsebseb> bernz: uh looks like I didn't even type the first bit.   since I got distracted by something.
[02:17] <sebsebseb> bernz: there was an article about trying the latest Chromeium in Linux
[02:17] <bernz> storbeck, wow, now that i understand what that means, it's easy ;-)
[02:17] <donkey> crdlb what should i do
[02:17] <storbeck> :)
[02:18] <sebsebseb> bernz: not proper Chrome
[02:18] <crdlb> donkey: it's installed, but won't appear in the menus unless you restart gnome-panel (or your entire session)
[02:18] <donkey> how do i restart gnome panel?
[02:18] <bernz> sebsebseb, ah, okay, that's what i'd last heard, but that's running via wine or something weird, no?
[02:18] <alanbshepard70> can anyone tell me what this means? Xorg[5083]: segfault at 616c756d ip b7a0ed64 sp bff305f0 error 4 in libdri.so My laptop has "crashed" a few times in the past two hours for no discernible reason. The only thing suspicious in the system logs is above.
[02:18] <sebsebseb> bernz: no native
[02:18] <donkey> crdlb how do i restart gnome panel?
[02:18] <bernz> sebsebseb, oh, good enough for me, then :-)
[02:19] <crdlb> donkey: 'killall gnome-panel' should do it (it should respawn)
[02:19] <bernz> short story: i'm going to be getting my chrome on to-NIGHT! (say it with Carl's voice from ATHF)
[02:19] <shippo> I edited fstab to include "//<IP_ADDRESS>/XFER /home/kaede/Inuyasha ntfs default 0 0" and it did not mount, any ideas?
[02:19] <jrib> shippo: ntfs?
[02:20] <donkey> crdlb yup that worked
[02:20] <shippo> yeah trying to mount a windows shared folder
[02:20] <jrib> !samba | shippo
[02:20] <Tamnakz> doleyb: That link won't work for me
[02:20] <wrektkjet> anyone know how to make the leaving and entering the room messages disappear using pidgin
[02:20] <zaach> is it possible to do system updates if the only account is passwordless?
[02:20] <BlackAeronaut> Need some help with a display driver.  Running Ubuntu 8.10 64 Bit on a Toshiba Satellite A355D - CPU: AMD Turion X2 Ultra 64.  GPU: ATI Mobilitiy Radeon HD 3470 X2 Hybrid.  I get nothing but Terminal whenever I boot, no mater how I boot (clean install, install from Wubi, Live CD).  Startx does not work - it can find the drivers.  I've tried installing drivers, but with X not working, it leaves me with very few options.  I did manage to get one set
[02:20] <sebsebseb> bernz: i'll see if I can get the link, but I guess this is only for experienced Linux people :)
[02:20] <jrib> wrektkjet: check your plugins
[02:21] <shippo> jrib and ubottu yes I did that but I wanted it to load at startup with out user interaction
[02:21] <shippo> I have samba installed
[02:21] <bernz> crdlb, sweeeeeeeet, that's the magic clue i was waiting for -- a restart of gnome-panel (or the WM, or reboot) is required to "update" the menus (i was wondering where my updated menus were, and hadn't yet rebooted)
[02:21] <BlackAeronaut> *it can't find the driver
[02:21] <jrib> shippo: yes, so you should read that page...
[02:21] <shippo> I can manually mount it fine
[02:21] <wrektkjet> jrib: plugins for pidgin u mean?
[02:21] <georgy_28> BlackAeronaut, : try the vesa driver
[02:21] <Tamnakz> crdlb:  It is an ar242x. how do I download this file to transfer it?
[02:21] <dug_> any suggestions on getting my wireless to work again?  Here is the ndiswrapper/iwconfig info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6919955&postcount=366
[02:21] <jrib> wrektkjet: yeah, just check the ones you have available to you
[02:21] <AnyaJ> alex-weej, another thing the repositories does is lump programs that are "dependent" upon each other when they arne't necessarily so
[02:21] <wrektkjet> oh ok i see them
[02:21] <BlackAeronaut> georgy_28: How do I do that?
[02:21] <wrektkjet> thnx
[02:22] <crdlb> Tamnakz: you don't have to
[02:22] <shippo> sorry jrib what page?
[02:22] <jrib> shippo: the one ubottu linked you to
[02:22] <bernz> sebsebseb, well, i'm not an expert, but i started with DOS, so i'd say i'm at a "creates own Makefile projects from scratch with relative ease" level, shell-wise
[02:22] <wanna_learn_more> !read
[02:22] <wanna_learn_more> !readonly
[02:22] <wanna_learn_more> !read-only
[02:22] <Keal_> how do i enable the switch for 'soundcard capture'?
[02:22] <georgy_28> ! xorg | BlackAeronaut
[02:22] <bernz> sebsebseb, in other words, the link will probably be just what i'm interested in
[02:23] <crdlb> Tamnakz: since it's on the CD
[02:23] <BlackAeronaut> Thanks, georgy_28.
[02:23] <BlackAeronaut> BRB
[02:23] <Tamnakz> crdlb: I don't have a CD?
[02:23] <Keal_> how do i enable the switch for 'soundcard capture'?
[02:23] <Tamnakz> I've got a usb drive that was set up for me with 8.10 bootable
[02:23] <crdlb> ah
[02:24] <bernz> sebsebseb, i'm open to pretty much *any* info on chrome-or-similar-working-on-GNOME :-)
[02:24] <brianguertin> is there a way to fix this problem, im getting it on a couple programs:/usr/local/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.10' not found
[02:24] <bernz> sebsebseb, but don't yet have enough free time at the moment to be the one making that info happen :-)
[02:24] <brianguertin> with intrepid ^
[02:25] <jrib> brianguertin: why is "/usr/local" there...
[02:25] <sebsebseb> bernz: http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2009031602835OSSWUB
[02:25] <crdlb> Tamnakz: this should work http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic
[02:25] <bernz> sebsebseb, awesome, cheers!
[02:25] <sebsebseb> bernz: I could have given a more direct link,  but some guys comment there to :d so may as well read that I guess
[02:26] <sebsebseb> linuxtoday.com is a good site, but there article archive system sucks
[02:26] <brianguertin> jrib: that is an excellent question, that probably explains it
[02:26] <Tamnakz> cdlb: download the backports modules, correct?
[02:26] <BlackAeronaut> georgy_28: That didn't do anything for me.  I'm still in terminal.
[02:26] <Tamnakz> cdlb: both files?
[02:26] <bahadeli> hi
[02:27] <georgy_28> BlackAeronaut, : can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[02:27] <crdlb> Tamnakz: you need the one for your architecture
[02:27] <zaach> I installed Intrepid with a passwordless account, how can I do system updates?
[02:28] <BlackAeronaut> georgy_28: It'll take a minute.  GOtta mount an external drive to transfer the file.
[02:28] <georgy_28> BlackAeronaut, : ok
[02:28] <Tamnakz> cdlb: the link takes me to a backport modules intrepid generic
[02:28] <Tamnakz> cdlb: I apologize, this is foreign material to me
[02:29] <shippo> thanks ubottu! and jrib!
[02:29] <shippo> rebooting to test
[02:30] <crdlb> Tamnakz: right, but one of them is for i386 (32-bit) and the other is for amd64 (64-bit)
[02:31] <bernz> sebsebseb, nice, i left a comment of my own :-)
[02:31] <xacaa> hi all
[02:31] <xacaa> d
[02:31] <xacaa> help me
[02:31] <xacaa> im here
[02:31] <xacaa> im MONGOLIA
[02:31] <jrib> xacaa: just ask your question
[02:32] <sebsebseb> bernz: on the site or article?
[02:32] <a5x7> Hello all.. how do i make 7-zip my default in ubuntu instead of archive manager, or to have a choice of which one to use? I have installed 7-zip threw synaptic
[02:32] <sebsebseb> bernz:  I mean on the site or linuxtoday?   that article was from a few days ago
[02:32] <bernz> sebsebseb, i left a comment on the site that pointed to the article. i'll probably leave a comment directly to the author of the article after i finish reading it
[02:32] <xacaa> how use xchat
[02:32] <sebsebseb> bernz: yep it's a good site
[02:33] <maxagaz> how to use preseed with 8.04 ?
[02:33] <humbolt> The CTRL key in Ubuntu is not a CTRL key in virtualbox?!
[02:33] <jrib> xacaa: you type stuff and press enter...
[02:33] <xacaa> what stutt
[02:33] <killindillin> sebsebseb: i'm back
[02:33] <Stargazer> How do i mount my SD card from the command line ?
[02:33] <BlackAeronaut> georgy_28: http://pastebin.com/m567d4e36
[02:34] <killindillin> let me check for u stargazer
[02:34] <xacaa> OK
[02:34] <sebsebseb> bernz: I refreshed the page and no comment
[02:34] <xacaa> xchat is nice
[02:34] <efeX^> ^
[02:34] <sebsebseb> killindillin: ok
[02:35] <Tamnakz> crdlb: THANKS!! I'll try the file asap
[02:35] <killindillin> http://www.techsupportforum.com/alternative-computing/linux-support/55605-sd-cards-under-linux.html
[02:35] <sebsebseb> killindillin: what about it?
[02:35] <killindillin> stargazer heres a link to tell u bout it
[02:35] <killindillin> http://www.techsupportforum.com/alternative-computing/linux-support/55605-sd-cards-under-linux.html
[02:35] <a5x7> Hello all.. how do i make 7-zip my default in ubuntu instead of archive manager, or to have a choice of which one to use? I have installed 7-zip threw synaptic..
[02:36] <sebsebseb> killindillin: stargazer looks like I am not picking up on what your trying to say
[02:36] <a5x7> I have a .rar file i need to extract
[02:36] <sebsebseb> !rar
[02:36] <r00tintheb0x> okay, here's the deal.
[02:36] <sebsebseb> !unrar-free
[02:36] <bernz> sebsebseb, it's awaiting moderation -- they're really careful on that site -- a CAPTCHA, plus moderator review -- wow :-O
[02:36] <r00tintheb0x> Im trying to set my IP address manually with the Ubuntu GUI and it is NOT working out for me.
[02:36] <r00tintheb0x> Anyone know why?
[02:37] <sebsebseb> bernz: heh
[02:37] <a5x7> humm, but wont 7-zip do the same thing?
[02:37] <Stargazer> Sebsebseb: i'm trying to mount my SD card( a device ) using the command line(a Terminal)
[02:37] <sebsebseb> Stargazer: ah ha :D   I didn't see your messages before, so I thought for some reason he was talking to me
[02:37] <xacaa> Сайн байцгаана уу?
[02:37] <a5x7> !7-zip
[02:37] <sebsebseb> Stargazer: well since  it said he was back  in red on my client
[02:37] <killindillin> star gazer this should help
[02:38] <killindillin> Try this. Boot the computer into Linux. Don't plug in your card reader just yet. Open a command line window and su as root. Type "dmesg" and note what the last few lines are. Plug in the reader and then type dmesg again after several seconds. There should see a set of lines that show the USB device as being recognized by the kernel. You should see something about what device path this device will have (/dev/blahblah). You ca
[02:38] <killindillin> __________________
[02:38] <FloodBot2> killindillin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:38] <a5x7> thanks ubottu you are the man hehe
[02:38] <sebsebseb> !bot
[02:38] <bernz> r00tintheb0x, so are you going to 'System | Preferences | Network Configuration'?
[02:39] <BlackAeronaut> georgy_28: Hey man, you still in here?
[02:39] <bernz> r00tintheb0x, in there, you have a list of, say, "profiles" -- try creating a new one, with static (manual) IP info, and then making it the default, or deleting the other profiles (CAREFUL whenever deleting)
[02:39] <georgy_28> BlackAeronaut, = try this http://pastebin.com/m63d3b04d
[02:39] <BlackAeronaut> georgy_28: Okay...
[02:40] <r00tintheb0x> Okay, anyone have an answer to my question?
[02:40] <georgy_28> BlackAeronaut, : sorry I have to leave now, maybe someone else will help you
[02:40] <bernz> r00tintheb0x, i guess you missed that last bit
[02:40] <xacaa_> hi
[02:40] <xacaa_> ll
[02:40] <BlackAeronaut> georgy_28: Thanks anyways.
[02:40] <r00tintheb0x> Yeah, I had to connect to my work VPN.
[02:40] <r00tintheb0x> Repeat bernz
[02:41] <bernz> r00tintheb0x, "r00tintheb0x, so are you going to 'System | Preferences | Network Configuration'?"
[02:41] <xacaa_> hey
[02:41] <r00tintheb0x> correct bernz
[02:41] <bernz> r00tintheb0x, "r00tintheb0x, in there, you have a list of, say, "profiles" -- try creating a new one, with static (manual) IP info, and then making it the default, or deleting the other profiles (CAREFUL whenever deleting)"
[02:41] <xacaa_> Xchat and Xchat gnome is one
[02:41] <r00tintheb0x> Then I set the IP etc... manually... save it... restart the network and it still has the dhcp given ip
[02:42] <bernz> do you only have the one profile?
[02:42] <r00tintheb0x> bernz, i have already "cp -arfvp /etc /etc.bak"
[02:42] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[02:42] <r00tintheb0x> Let me try that.
[02:42] <killindillin> sebsebseb.....ok i have virtual box downloaded....now what i do..do i need to get the iso file now???
[02:42] <Trae> hey guys, I've installed xubuntu... but I didn't want to change the default boot logo... how can I get back the default Ubuntu boot / loading screen?
[02:43] <killindillin> sebsebseb.....ok i have virtual box downloaded....now what i do..do i need to get the iso file now???
[02:43] <bernz> r00tintheb0x, okay; FWIW, it appears this app (network configurator thingy) is stable enough that if you understand your LAN setup, you can obliterate everything and rebuild it, with little effort :-)
[02:44] <bernz> Trae, i guess it's gotta be in a system prefs of some sort
[02:44] <bernz> Trae, have you Web searched for "change xubuntu boot logo" or something similar? someone must have blogged about it by now :-)
[02:44] <r00tintheb0x_> Thanks bernz... I figured it out.
[02:45] <bernz> r00tintheb0x, right on :-)
[02:45] <r00tintheb0x_> Im not used to all this snazzy GUI stuff.
[02:45] <killindillin> hey guys walk me through using setting up ubuntu and virtual box:-)
[02:45] <r00tintheb0x_>  I was about to edit /etc/network/interfaces bernz
[02:45] <bernz> oh yeah, sometimes the GUI gets in the way, but intrepid seems pretty solid finally :-)
[02:46] <r00tintheb0x_> Yeah, i moved from Solaris bernz
[02:46] <bernz> r00tintheb0x, hehe, yeah, i hear that -- editing 'interfaces' -- no more of that, it's NetworkManager's job :-D
[02:46] <r00tintheb0x> Yeah, that kind of scares me bernz
[02:46] <r00tintheb0x> Im having a HECK of a time with my servers @ work and their NTP settings.
[02:47] <r00tintheb0x> I have like... 25 linux servers... and none of them want to sync to my DC.
[02:47] <bernz> r00tintheb0x, well, on the plus side, you can always disable NM and go at it manually like in the days of yore :-]
[02:47] <killindillin> hey guys walk me through using setting up ubuntu and virtual box please :-)
[02:47] <r00tintheb0x> NM works fine, I just didnt understand the whole profile thing.
[02:48] <r00tintheb0x> killindillin, what is virtualbox?
[02:48] <r00tintheb0x> And why do you need to be walked through setting up ubuntu.
[02:48] <killindillin>  a virtual machine program
[02:48] <r00tintheb0x> Its like, installing windows.
[02:48] <gRunt> Can anyone tell me if there is a way to change the default mount point for my ipod? I have looked in the mtab and can't see anything glaringly obvious like with my ntfs partitions. Any idea?
[02:48] <r00tintheb0x> gRunt, paste me your /etc/fstab to http://www.pastebin.ca
[02:49] <killindillin> ok screw it tell me how to in stall it to a 4 gig flashdrive
[02:49] <gRunt> okay I just looked at it but I didn't recognise my ipod 2 secs
[02:49] <bernz> gRunt, you might be able to do it from the GUI, if you like to do so: in nautilus (default file explorer), right-click the volume when it's mounted (or on your desktop), and select its properties and dig around in there; you can assign an overriding default mount point
[02:49] <Gnea> !usb | killindillin
[02:49] <r00tintheb0x> killindillin, what do you mean man. The install for Ubuntu is point and click.
[02:49] <Gnea> r00tintheb0x: there's no need for that.
[02:50] <r00tintheb0x> Gnea, no need for what. A /etc/fstab paste?
[02:50] <shippo> ubottu that worked but it will only work with the IP address, the server name will not resolve in the fstab file at startup, any ideas?
[02:50] <bernz> gRunt, maybe you have to first determine what profile/class your iPod uses to connect -- it might be MTP, not MSC
[02:50] <bernz> (if it's MTP, it might not mount like a typical mass storage device, like a USB stick or portable HD)
[02:50] <killindillin> r00tinthebox:i'm a noob so help me
[02:50] <surg> helllo
[02:50] <killindillin> hey
[02:51] <gRunt> thanks bernz that might be just as easy and r00tintheb0x this is my current fstab (and my ipod is currently connected) http://www.pastebin.ca/1364876
[02:51] <Gnea> killindillin: if you want help, please do not demand it
[02:51] <killindillin> k sorry
[02:51] <sebsebseb> killindillin: I am here
[02:51] <r00tintheb0x> checking gRunt, give me a second.
[02:51] <bernz> gRunt, how do you "get at" the files on your iPod when syncing? with a regular file explorer, like nautilus, or with a special app?
[02:51] <sebsebseb> killindillin: md5sum the ISO first
[02:52] <r00tintheb0x> killindillin, the quickest way to learn linux is trial and error.
[02:52] <sebsebseb> !md5
[02:52] <shippo> does anyone know if a servername like TEST will resolve in fstab versus having to use the IP address for TEST of <IP_ADDRESS>?
[02:52] <scunizi> bernz: gtkpod
[02:52] <sebsebseb> r00tintheb0x: yes and that is what he will start doing in Virtualbox
[02:52] <surg> whats up everyone
[02:52] <bernz> scunizi, that's "special", i guess -- does it use MTP?
[02:52] <Gnea> killindillin: if you check out that second URL that I had ubottu toss your way, you'll find instruction on how to get ubuntu to install to a usb drive
[02:52] <r00tintheb0x> Most people will not help you if the "problem" you're having has a thousand walkthroughs and resolutions.
[02:52] <scunizi> shippo: it will if "TEST" is in the /etc/hosts file
[02:52] <gRunt> bernz I have an ipod touch 2g and while there are hacks for a jailbroken ipod (which mine is) for the most part I can't get syncing to work, and sadly I haven't found an app I like that deals with podcasts and movies like itunes so im currently dual booting into a tinyXP install just for itunes.
[02:53] <gRunt> But I normally SSH into my box or do a tethered SSH in windows, linux has proven to be a pain.
[02:53] <Gnea> r00tintheb0x: it's actually better if the user has an idea of what the actual problem is in the first place
[02:53] <sebsebseb> killindillin: whatever to that guy, and let's get you setu
[02:53] <r00tintheb0x> gRunt, and you say that the IPod is connected and mounted now?
[02:53] <shippo> scunizi: that makes me think that it would be a manual entry in a different file, is that correct?
[02:53] <sebsebseb> killindillin: pm if you don't want to chat here
[02:53] <r00tintheb0x> gRunt, pastebin me the output of "fdisk -l" and "mount".
[02:53] <scunizi> bernz: no.. wait.. I get mixed up on mtp vs the other.. I think mtp is the more difficult one that may be better supported in the next release, Jaunty
[02:53] <gRunt> yeah its connected there is an "apple ipod inc" icon on my desktop with a camera logo r00tintheb0x  and will do that now
[02:53] <scunizi> shippo: manual entry in /etc/hosts
[02:53] <Gnea> r00tintheb0x: but, your attitude of "too many steps, so piss off" isn't a good one to have around here
[02:54] <sebsebseb> Gnea: agreed
[02:54] <r00tintheb0x> Gnea, im sorry. It looked to me like he was wanting instructions on how to install Ubuntu as a virtual machine.
[02:54] <abacan> would someone help me about how to separate debug info from executable?
[02:54] <r00tintheb0x> Sorry Gnea, you're right.
[02:54] <bernz> gRunt, okay, you might be able to run tinyXP *inside* a virtual machine in ubuntu, to improve things a bit... as for the syncing, if you can get the device to act as an MSC (mass storage class), basically, just exposing its hard drive contents, you could do a lot with it
[02:54] <r00tintheb0x> I'll try to be more...
[02:54] <r00tintheb0x> Accepting. :)
[02:54] <sebsebseb> r00tintheb0x: yes he did, becasue I was helping him earlier with things
[02:54] <shippo> scunizi:  I am looking for any automatic way to do that b/c my network gets reset a lot.
[02:54] <bernz> scunizi, yeah, MTP is more complicated, for sure
[02:54] <r00tintheb0x> Sorry guys.
[02:54] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[02:54] <Gnea> r00tintheb0x: well maybe he does
[02:54] <BlackAeronaut> Need some help with a display driver.  Running Ubuntu 8.10 64 Bit on a Toshiba Satellite A355D - CPU: AMD Turion X2 Ultra 64.  GPU: ATI Mobilitiy Radeon HD 3470 X2 Hybrid.  I get nothing but Terminal whenever I boot, no mater how I boot (clean install, install from Wubi, Live CD).  Startx does not work - it can find the drivers.  I've tried installing drivers, but with X not working, it leaves me with very few options.  I did manage to get one set
[02:54] <scunizi> shippo: do the ip's change?
[02:55] <shippo> scunizi: yes
[02:55] <Gnea> !vbox
[02:55] <r00tintheb0x> gRunt, im waiting on the paste :)
[02:55] <sebsebseb> I am helping him in pm now, so nevermind
[02:55] <r00tintheb0x> BlackAeronaut, give me a min.
[02:55] <BlackAeronaut> r00tintheb0x: Thanks.
[02:55] <Gnea> killindillin: have you checked out the virtualbox setup details?
[02:55] <scunizi> shippo: then you're stuck.. there's no automagick way of doing it.. unless  .. you're running a server and want to get at it right?
[02:55] <gRunt> yeah bernz i could but dual boot is handy incase I stuff up ubuntu lol and oh im pasting now sorry :)
[02:55] <sebsebseb> Gnea: he has pmed me
[02:55] <Gnea> sebsebseb: ah, ok cool
[02:56] <r00tintheb0x> BlackAeronaut you do get text though correct?
[02:56] <Wanderer> anyone know where I can find info on getting full resolution on a Dell E6400 laptop?  I'm only getting 1280x720 instead of 1600x1200
[02:56] <shippo> scunizi: darn, I was hoping I could do something, but I guess not
[02:56] <scunizi> shippo: you running a server that you're trying to get at?
[02:56] <bernz> gRunt, okay, no worries
[02:56] <gRunt> r00tintheb0x, http://www.pastebin.ca/1364879
[02:56] <humbolt> Virtualbox rules!!! Thank god, I can get rid of damn VMware Workstation now!
[02:57] <r00tintheb0x> checking now gRunt
[02:57] <shippo> scunizi: it is just another windows system running xp, not specifically a xp server version
[02:57] <BlackAeronaut> r00tintheb0x: Correct: I always got Terminal, but gedit doesn't work since it's dependant on X.
[02:57] <gRunt> yeah bernz I've been using ubuntu for 4 days, I think I am learning kind of quick but I reinstalled it about 5 times in the first day just testing things, now I have it working I am afraid to try and do anything to fancy now I have it the way I like :)
[02:57] <r00tintheb0x> gRunt, where is the IPod mounted now, /mnt/shared_ntfs ?
[02:58] <r00tintheb0x> BlackAeronaut, but you're seeing text, okay.
[02:58] <scunizi> gRunt: just remember most things you do to break the install can be fixed without reinstalling.. it aint windows baby!
[02:58] <r00tintheb0x> BlackAeronaut, type startx for me.
[02:58] <shippo> scunizi: I would imagine if I was running a server then I could have a DNS service running on it to resolve the name to the ip address?
[02:58] <r00tintheb0x> I know its not going to work, but I want to see the error it gives.
[02:58] <gRunt> nope thats my ntfs partition that I want to load on boot I just didnt want the icon on the desktop so I was suggested to not mount it in /media that is just a parition both my XP and ubuntu install can access.
[02:58] <BlackAeronaut> r00tintheb0x: OKay.  I know how this goes, though.  ;)
[02:58] <r00tintheb0x> BlackAeronaut, are you getting "Primary device is not PCI" ?
[02:58] <scunizi> shippo: or take the easy way out and use something like dydns
[02:59] <r00tintheb0x> gRunt, can you tell where your ipod is mounted as of right now?
[02:59] <shippo> scunizi:  is there somewhere I can read up on dydns?
[02:59] <bernz> gRunt, heh, awesome, okay, here's your next trick: resize your HD into two halves, and clone your working copy onto the spare half, then make a bootable USB system-on-a-stick to restore the busted "main" partition by copying back the previous "good" one from the "spare" (only works if you've done "simple" partitioning with most "special" directories all on the same volume)
[02:59] <r00tintheb0x> !dydns | shippo
[02:59] <gRunt> r00tintheb0x, by default it is /media/ipod but I will check
[02:59] <scunizi> shippo: yep.. www.dydns.org
[02:59] <bernz> gRunt, then, go nuts!
[02:59] <BlackAeronaut> r00tintheb0x: I get: (EE) No devices detected.
[02:59] <r00tintheb0x> shippo, http://www.no-ip.com/
[02:59] <shippo> scunizi: thanks for your assistance!
[03:00] <BlackAeronaut> r00tintheb0x: I meant what I said about X not being able to find the driver.  ;)
[03:00] <r00tintheb0x> BlackAeronaut, do you see "Primary device is not PCI" right before that?
[03:00] <scunizi> shippo: np.. r00tintheb0x gave you another link as well.. never used that one.. but would be worth looking at. :)
[03:00] <r00tintheb0x> BlackAeronaut, relax... just answer my questions. I've got this.
[03:00] <r00tintheb0x> shippo, i use no-ip, its in the ubuntu repos
[03:00] <r00tintheb0x> I love it.
[03:01] <gRunt> r00tintheb0x, hah it doesn't appear there, which is odd it used to be /media/ipod. The only reason I want to mount it somewhere else is that stupid icon just makes me cry (im anal about having unwanted desktop icons gone)
[03:01] <gRunt> So not even sure if it is mounted tbh.
[03:01] <r00tintheb0x> gRunt, is the ipod plugged in?
[03:01] <r00tintheb0x> and turned on?
[03:01] <shippo> scunizi:  I guess another way would be to assign static ip address to the xp windows machine, right?
[03:01] <scunizi> r00tintheb0x: shippo AH.. no-ip should probably be used in conjunction with dydns.org
[03:01] <bernz> (possible typo? www.dydns.org -> www.dyndns.org)
[03:01] <gRunt> r00tintheb0x, aye im charging it, and yes I was just playing pokemon emerald on it ;)
[03:01] <itachi7> good night
[03:01] <r00tintheb0x> scunizi, no-ip has a client in the repos for their free service.
[03:02] <r00tintheb0x> My DNS name is.... mikesays.servebeer.com
[03:02] <r00tintheb0x> gRunt, open up a terminal.
[03:02] <scunizi> bernz: yep.. thanks. shippo  catch the correct spelling ^^--^^
[03:02] <shippo> now that is funny r00tintheb0x
[03:02] <r00tintheb0x> type: tail -f /var/log/messages
[03:02] <r00tintheb0x> unplug, and replug the ipod
[03:02] <gRunt> already done :)
[03:02] <r00tintheb0x> like that huh shippo ? ;)
[03:02] <MrAlexandro> hi guys, i am in a dilemma now, someone convinced me about switchin to slackware, when reinstalling computer with trippple boot.  that means lilo bootloader in the start and then a redirect on each partiion. sorry for bad explanation. now i have installed sp1 in vista. but miss ubuntu so bad. i need help here. lilo bootloader is deletelet from the cbr or what it is called. i need it back. so...
[03:02] <MrAlexandro> ...i can copy the tripple boot config in lilo and try to use it to set up tripple boot with ubntu
[03:02] <r00tintheb0x> gRunt, what'd it say?
[03:02] <r00tintheb0x> BlackAeronaut, did I loose you?
[03:02] <itachi7> could you help me?
[03:03] <r00tintheb0x> itachi7, ask your question.
[03:03] <scunizi> shippo: mine is scunizi.isa-geek.com
[03:03] <gRunt> r00tintheb0x, i had a clean terminal up it didnt say anything I just got a gnome window that asked me what default action I wanted to take
[03:03] <itachi7> do you know how to programing with opengl in ibex
[03:03] <itachi7> ??
[03:04] <functionofxy> need urgent help w/ xorg meltdown. anyone willing to lend a hand?
[03:04] <r00tintheb0x> gRunt, did you "tail -f /var/log/messages" ?
[03:04] <r00tintheb0x> itachi7, no... I am a sysadmin... sorry
[03:04] <r00tintheb0x> functionofxy, explain the problem or ask the question.
[03:04] <r00tintheb0x> People will help if they can.;
[03:04] <r00tintheb0x> BlackAeronaut, You have 2 graphic cards and xorg doesn't know which one to choose as primary adapter. You need to define it in section "Device" of your xorg.conf config file with a line like: BusID "PCI:02:00:00
[03:05] <r00tintheb0x> Thats your laptop problem.
[03:05] <gRunt> r00tintheb0x, no didnt even know that existed lol ill do it now
[03:05] <BlackAeronaut> r00tintheb0x: Negative.  I see: (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time Thu Mar 19 03:56:51 2009 (break) (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" (break) (EE) No devices detected.  (break)(break) Fatal server error: (break) no screens found (break) giving up. (break) xinit:  Connection refused (errno 111):  Server error. (break) xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.
[03:06] <BlackAeronaut> r00tintheb0x: Sorry about that.  No way for me to copy-paste between two machines.
[03:06] <brianguertin> itachi7: http://www.libsdl.org/
[03:06] <functionofxy> sure. i booted today and I can only pick resolutions 800x600 or lower. i used to use 1280x1024. the screen res app imposes these limitations. the xorg file is vanilla and dpkg-reconfigure produces nothing different.
[03:06] <gRunt> r00tintheb0x, http://www.pastebin.ca/1364883 from my tail command thingy.
[03:07] <scunizi> functionofxy: ati, intel or nvidia?
[03:07] <functionofxy> my only lead is that i did apt-get upgrade today and it updated libavdevice52, libavutils, etc.
[03:07] <r00tintheb0x> gRunt, hold...
[03:07] <functionofxy> scunizi, ati
[03:07] <gRunt> r00tintheb0x, *holding*
[03:07] <functionofxy> scunizi, ancient card. ati rage 128. worked fine until today
[03:07] <r00tintheb0x> gRunt, now paste me a "sudo fdisk -l"
[03:07] <scunizi> functionofxy: there have been others on today with ati issues.. sorry I'm better at nvidia
[03:07] <functionofxy> can still get basic generic output. i dont think its a problem with the card
[03:08] <functionofxy> scunizi, do you think i'm on to something w/ the package upgrades?
[03:08] <itachi7> how i can do one makefile to run 2 programs with opengl
[03:08] <scunizi> functionofxy: most likely xrandr .. google that for commands and I'll also send you a link from ubottu that might help
[03:08] <scunizi> !resolution | functionofxy
[03:08] <badfish69> bbl
[03:09] <gRunt> r00tintheb0x, http://www.pastebin.ca/1364884
[03:09] <functionofxy> thanks scunizi
[03:09] <scunizi> np
[03:10] <r00tintheb0x> okay gRunt its not seeing your ipod as a drive.
[03:10] <r00tintheb0x> !ipod | gRunt
[03:11] <gRunt> thanks r00tintheb0x this isn't really important just me being anal so im in no rush, thanks though
[03:11] <r00tintheb0x> no problem gRunt
[03:12] <slerder> Hey guys. Is there anyway a usb flash drive, when inserted into a ubuntu 8.10 machine autorun malicious code and infect my ubuntu box? Thanks
[03:12] <r00tintheb0x> BlackAeronaut, give me a couple mins... im researching.
[03:12] <BlackAeronaut> r00tintheb0x: Got a copy of the bad box's xorg.conf on this box, so whenever you're ready.
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> ok BlackAeronaut paste me the output of this command...
[03:13] <r00tintheb0x> grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:13] <binarymutant> anyone use parrot? It won't run this ruby script http://paste.ubuntu.com/133387/ what's up?
[03:14] <BlackAeronaut> r00tintheb0x: OKay, wiat one...
[03:14] <slerder> Hey guys. Is there anyway a usb flash drive, when inserted into a ubuntu 8.10 machine autorun malicious code and infect my ubuntu box? Thanks
[03:14] <r00tintheb0x> kk
[03:15] <r00tintheb0x> slerder, are you asking if its possible? If so, yes.
[03:15] <BlackAeronaut> r00tintheb0x: Driver  "vesa"
[03:16] <r00tintheb0x> BlackAeronaut, okay... hold up.
[03:16] <r00tintheb0x> BlackAeronaut, are you able to paste to a paste bin errors now or no?
[03:16] <gRunt> wow just trying handbrake for the first time, much much faster encoding than super (C) for windows! life is good with ubuntu!
[03:17] <slerder> r00tintheb0x, how? Is there any way i can know if it happened? thanks
[03:17] <BlackAeronaut> r00tintheb0x: I can use pastebin, just not on the bad box.  I have to manually type everything.
[03:18] <r00tintheb0x> Okay black, type startx on the bad box again.
[03:18] <BlackAeronaut> r00tintheb0x: Right, wait one...
[03:18] <r00tintheb0x> kk
[03:18] <BlackAeronaut> r00tintheb0x: Okay, watcha looking for?
[03:19] <mikejet> What is the superior openoffice / spreadsheet community?
[03:19] <Chaorain> Is there something simalar to wine but for mac software?
[03:19] <bernz> slerder, do some reading on the autorun feature in general (for any OS, like Windows, Linux, etc) -- i don't think Linux distros typically support unauthorized autorun, but i usually disable it in any system i use anyway, unless explicitly needed
[03:19] <sebsebseb> Chaorain: don't think so
[03:19] <bman> mac wine = whiskey
[03:19] <r00tintheb0x> BlackAeronaut, whats the general error.
[03:19] <r00tintheb0x> No screens found?
[03:20] <mikejet> I'm trying to use OpenOffice / Spreadsheet (Excel). How do I delete all rows that DONT contain a specific string? Is there an IRC channel for that? Google SUCKS.
[03:20] <mylisto> anyone know how to download flv's from a website...
[03:21] <bernz> slerder, in other words, it's unlikely you would have an auto-run executable that's linux-format compatible, although it's possible
[03:21] <efeX^> Is there native support for RAR's?
[03:21] <BlackAeronaut> r00tintheb0x: Generally seems to b that the devices aren't connected.
[03:21] <bernz> slerder, clamAV is sort of designed for what you want, though -- it looks for "parasites"
[03:21]  * bernz AFK
[03:21] <slerder> bernz thanks, will look into it
[03:22] <usser> mylisto, firefox extension, download helper or something similar
[03:22] <mylisto> theres this video I am trying to download...this is the source code
[03:22] <mylisto> http://video.cw11.com/global/video/flash/flashvideoplayer.asp?playerName=miniplayer.swf&playerHeight=318&playerWidth=340&menuPosition=none&clipId=3559823
[03:22] <mylisto> not sure if I will be able to download the flv
[03:23] <gRunt> Hey bernz my laptop just overheated and died (my fault lol) and now handbrake is being homo....but that aside I just noticed my ipod is being recognised as Filesystem type: gphoto2 when I go to properties, does that seem odd to you?
[03:25] <gRunt> Well I gtg restart 2 secs
[03:25] <functionofxy> anyone else heard of trouble w/ ati graphics this week?
[03:25] <mikejet> Where's a good IRC channel for OpenOffice / Spreadsheet / Calc.
[03:26] <mikejet> Why do 2004 and 2005 ubuntuforums posts always show up in google first?
[03:27] <Ficthe> hi. Putting a user in the list of sudoers is practically equivalent to giving them root, isn't it?
[03:27] <Ficthe> i.e., they have the power to do anything root can do?
[03:28] <bernz> Ficthe, probably, in principle, yes, but i think that's what a "chroot jail" is for (to "reign them in", so to speak, if they are "untrustable")
[03:29] <Dreamglider> how do i format a usb flash with CDFS filesystem ?
[03:29] <gRunt> Hrmm I might post there here too as it may be more ubuntu specific than handbrake....sooo
[03:29] <Ficthe> bernz, alright.. but without this "chroo jail" -- a sudoer has to powers that root has, that's basically what I wanted to know, thanks
[03:29] <Ficthe> chroot* the*
[03:29] <gRunt> I just installed handbrake for ubuntu 8.10 I was converting my first file and threw my laptop on my bed, anyway apparently the quilt blocked the exhaust fan and half way through the encode my computer restarted, now when I open handbrake if I hit start the program just seems to close, doesn't do anything. Any way I can fix this?
[03:30] <bernz> Dreamglider, i think you probably need to "rip" the CDFS as an ISO or similar format, then copy that file to the USB flash ... not sure if it's possible to transfer the CDFS directly, as it's a weird format, unlike most PC disk formsts
[03:30] <gRunt> is there some kind of repair feature or something? I installed it via a .deb file in from their site so I dont know :s
[03:31] <pepperjack> Dreamglider: maybe just dd it?
[03:31] <bernz> Ficthe, there may be other "limitations", so it's best to read the manual for 'sudo' (e.g. 'man sudo') at the least, and maybe read a bit more about it if your job or serious hobby will involve much Linux system administration :-)
[03:31] <Dreamglider> pepperjack: can dd make a cdfs partition ?
[03:32] <pepperjack> well you would make the partition first
[03:32] <Ficthe> bernz, lol, you see.. I'm not quite the admin, my teacher is. He put my account in the list of sudoers today, so I was just wondering. :)
[03:32] <pepperjack> Dreamglider: im really not sure i know nothing of cdfs so take anything i say with a grain of salt
[03:33] <superactivo> hello
[03:33] <superactivo> spanish?
[03:34] <Ficthe> superactivo, #ubuntu.es, I think
[03:34] <superactivo> thanx
[03:34] <Ficthe> wait, sorry, no
[03:34] <Dreamglider> !es
[03:34] <superactivo> uhm
[03:34] <wrektkjet> whats a good program to see my hdd space? sort of like how i could select c: preferences in windows?
[03:34] <superactivo> Ficthe, maybe you can help me
[03:34] <Ficthe> I imagine there must be a #ubuntues on the ubuntu irc network.. or what Dreamglider said :) sorry
[03:34] <superactivo> i have a problem with my microphone
[03:35] <superactivo> where can i go looking for help?
[03:35] <Dreamglider> wrektkjet:  sudo fdisk -l
[03:35] <Ficthe> superactivo, if you would prefer help in Spanish, #ubuntu-es seems to have lots of users :)
[03:35] <superactivo> thanx Ficthe
[03:35] <Dreamglider> will list your disks/partitions and their sizes
[03:37] <zhurai-tsuki> huh....when is Jaunty going to be released?
[03:37] <zhurai-tsuki> just wondering
[03:37] <pepperjack> superactivo: open terminal and type 'alsamixer' make sure everything for the mic is unmuted and turned up
[03:38] <pepperjack> !jaunty > zhurai-tsuki
[03:39] <zhurai-tsuki> ah
[03:39] <Nytrix> #ubuntu-es
[03:40] <wrektkjet> thanks dreamgilder. is there a way to then see the usage of those partitions too?
[03:40] <unop> wrektkjet,  df -h
[03:42] <JohnBoy80> hello
[03:42] <unop> hey
[03:42] <JohnBoy80> <--new to Ubuntu
[03:42] <wrektkjet> ahah
[03:42] <wrektkjet> thnx
[03:42] <basix> i'm on Ubuntu 8.10. I cant find Unetbootin in synaptic. Where the heck is it??
[03:42] <JohnBoy80> i can't get Adobe Flash to work :(
[03:42] <unop> !flash
[03:42] <frank_austin> I've been trying to fix my system following 8.10 updates. firefox reports 'couldnt load XPCOM' and nm-applet reports "libnssutil3.so.1d is missing". I've tracked the libnssutil3 missing file to the libnss3-1d package but if I try to reinstall that I get 'Reinstallation of libnss3-1d is not possible, it cannot be downloaded - can anyone help?
[03:43] <sebsebseb> JohnBoy80: ok what would you like help with?
[03:43] <sebsebseb> JohnBoy80: Flash ok
[03:43] <sebsebseb> !flash
[03:43] <JohnBoy80> i tried d/l the *.deb but it wouldnt work
[03:44] <sebsebseb> JohnBoy80: ok  open a termianl
[03:44] <sebsebseb> JohnBoy80: applications > assessories > terminal
[03:44] <sebsebseb> JohnBoy80: try this:   sudo apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[03:44] <sebsebseb> JohnBoy80: in fact if you want Flash and AVI and  MP3 suppourt,  you do yeah?
[03:45] <JohnBoy80> "couldn't find package flashplayer-nonfree"
[03:45] <unko> anyone know the best bit torrent client for ubuntu? pm me if you have any good ones u know of...i like somthing with alot of features/plugins