[15:07] <douggle> by default wine uses alsa or pulseaudio?
[15:08] <th_> not for me
[15:08] <reisio> Shappy: all you need: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Migrate_Windows#HardDiskSupport http://mark.koli.ch/2009/05/howto-whole-disk-backups-with-dd-gzip-and-p7zip.html
[15:08] <bbbenji> hello!
[15:08] <bbbenji> got a question. ive never run into this before
[15:08] <designbybeck> Dell Studio 17 Radon Moblity HD 4000 series
[15:08] <bbbenji> when i try to install ubunut 11.10 it doesnt recognize any of my partitions
[15:08] <Shappy> Checkin' the links, thanks
[15:08] <bbbenji> neither does gparted
[15:08] <josip> Hello, I have a funny problem with ubuntu 11.10. If I put the cursor in the lower-right corner the systems freezes a bit. It would have been very funny if it weren't true. Anyone?
[15:08] <reisio> Shappy: the first URI covers something you can do to make it easier to run your Windows install in a VM later on should you want to
[15:08] <bbbenji> and i have 4, ntfs, ext3, swap and another ntfs
[15:08] <bbbenji> anyone able to help me out?
[15:08] <reisio> Shappy: and the second is your standard dd imaging
[15:08] <josip> s/systems/system
[15:08] <Suhel> Shappy why don't you use windows itself for backing up? Hell lotsa backing apps available
[15:09] <reisio> Suhel: why not drive a bigwheel to work
[15:09] <jiltdil> HI any one have issue with bad pic quality in cheese
[15:09] <bbbenji> unable to find an answer online
[15:09] <cutiyar> Darael, i can to upgrade when booting it?
[15:09] <Suhel> reisio: lol
[15:09] <reisio> jiltdil: what makes you think it's bad
[15:10] <Darael> cutiyar: I'm sorry, thou shalt have to find someone else to assist.
[15:10] <Shappy> Suhel, I want to like... "mirror" the current hdd's content so when I replace the HDD with another but exactly the same model al I have to do is feed the data back and have everything as it was
[15:10] <jiltdil> reisio: Actually the pic is like greenish and redish line also  awkward colour
[15:10] <Phr3d13> !nounity
[15:10] <Shappy> I'm not sure I want to trust such task on windows
[15:10] <Squeeb> urgh, what is this obsession with MASSIVE fonts!
[15:10] <cutiyar> Darael, thanks
[15:10] <kenanb> any ubuntu 11.10 users around that somehow achieved to reassign movement key?
[15:11] <jiltdil> reisio: can you help me fixing this
[15:11] <reisio> Squeeb: that's what happens when you let women run things :p

[15:11] <kenanb> it conflicts with some other software, but this time there is no easy place to reassign alt to super as movement key for windows
[15:11] <reisio> kenanb: do what?
[15:11] <reisio> jiltdil: fixing what?
[15:11] <Darael> Since I upgraded to Oneiric, all buttons and dropdowns in the various config boxes are unreadable - white text on a very-light-grey background - in Ambiance, Radiance, /and/ but the High Contrast ones are usable.  Problem is, /they/ are ugly.  Any ideas how I can get those elements looking as they ought to?  I've tried gnome-tweak-tool, and changing the GTK+ tool to Greybird solves it but causes /other/ elements to look ...
[15:11] <Suhel> Shappy as others suggested cloneZilla would be ideal, trust me windows ain't that lame lol you can trust it
[15:12] <Darael> ... out-of-place.
[15:12] <jiltdil> reisio: the pic in cheese is looking like greenish line on it
[15:12] <reisio> jiltdil: and you think that isn't just what your camera outputs?
[15:12] <kenanb> reisio: there was movement keys option under preferences>windows tab in system settings that has the option to assign movement key to super, now there isn't
[15:12] <Shappy> Suhel, hehh... I had my experiences with it that's why it's hard
[15:13] <jiltdil> reisio: no my camera is HD
[15:13] <kenanb> so when i alt+rmb window menu of blender pops up instead of some blender specific operator
[15:13] <jiltdil> reisio: also this problem didn't occur with me in 11.04
[15:13]  * vox is thinking of rolling back to 11.04
[15:13] <Suhel> Shappy I got one idea, why not get a cable to attach your harddrive to your new computer and copy things? Search the internet for it :-)
[15:14] <josip> Hello, I have a funny problem with ubuntu 11.10. If I put the cursor in the lower-right corner the system freezes a bit. It would have been very funny if it weren't true. Anyone?
[15:14] <bbbenji> anyone able to help me out? gparted isnt recognizing my partitions. screenshot: http://i53.tinypic.com/s5z6n4.png
[15:14] <vox> not being able to have aplets in the top bar is bad bad bad bad bad
[15:14] <cutiyar> Darael, i got it , i typed sh ./cdromupgrade not just ./cdromupgrade
[15:14] <rad_sci_guy> Hello.  Anyone having 11.10 update problem where the shutdown takes a very long time.  I've updated 3 different computers (desktop, laptop, netbook) and all three hang when the shutdown is trying to kill all processes.  It takes a few minutes before computer shuts off.
[15:14] <Squeeb> josip: which window manager are you using? Unity, Unity-2d, GNOME-shell?
[15:14] <josip> Squeeb: unity
[15:14] <Shappy> Suhel, the computer will be sent to service, the data will be erased from it, I won't have two 750GB HDDs present the same time
[15:14] <josip> I should have mentioned that
[15:14] <KBentley57> When I install the latest CCC from amd I can't reboot into the log on screen, only a purple splash, followed by a black screen.  Upon rebooting into the recovery, I can select "resume boot normally" and it boots fine.  Any ideas?
[15:14] <Darael> cutiyar: Ah, it must not have been set executable.  Glad to hear it's working.
[15:14] <Squeeb> josip: is anything else slow? windows moving around, etc..
[15:14] <insomnia_> gha installed 11.10, i'm sure you guys are hearing alot about issues; So i was curious as how to undo the update since it's bloated and runs shoddily
[15:14] <reisio> bbbenji: what makes you think you have partitions
[15:15] <Whiskey> How to allow RDP/VNC connection when no used are logged in?
[15:15] <cutiyar> Darael, thank u
[15:15] <bbbenji> because i have windows on one
[15:15] <zastaph> update seems to have broken my Ubuntu.. all I see is the Ubuntu logo with 5 red dots under it.. could it be thinking/loading for more than 10-15 minutes?
[15:15] <josip> no, just when I put the mouse there it freezes for a second
[15:15] <bbbenji> and a bunch of data on another
[15:15] <brian_> my sounds stopped working on 11.10, it was working before a reboot...can anyone give some troubleshooting tips....im new to linux
[15:15] <Squeeb> zastaph: Xorg hasn't started properly
[15:15] <bbbenji> reisio: and i can boot windows just fine and see the 4 partitions i have via minitool
[15:15] <Suhel> Shappy go for clonezilla... hmmm let me search the internet though brb
[15:16] <Squeeb> josip: hmm, if you leave the mouse there, does anything show up?
[15:16] <josip> no
[15:16] <Shappy> I'm reading reisio's link
[15:16] <reisio> bbbenji: how big is this disk?
[15:16] <Squeeb> how rare, try booting into the Unity-2D session
[15:16] <bbbenji> 500gb
[15:16] <Lufti_oO> hi
[15:16] <Squeeb> and see if it still does it
[15:16] <MaMaGoody> hi, anyone know why pidgin's silc is gone in 11.10?
[15:16] <Darael> Since I upgraded to Oneiric, all buttons and dropdowns in the various config boxes are unreadable unless currently selected - white text on a very-light-grey background - in Ambiance, Radiance, /and/ Adwaita.  Any ideas how I can get those elements looking as they ought to?  I've tried gnome-tweak-tool, and changing the GTK+ theme to Greybird solves it but causes /other/ elements to look out-of-place.
[15:16] <insomnia_> same issue here brian_
[15:16] <reisio> Shappy: skip clonezilla, with it you will be completely in the dark as to how it is making your backup and how it is restoring it
[15:16] <reisio> Lufti_oO: hi
[15:16] <justa> As i am sure I am not the first. Hereby a 'Oneiric SUCKS'+1 notice
[15:17] <rad_sci_guy> Hello.  Anyone having 11.10 update problem where the shutdown takes a very long time.  I've updated 3 different computers (desktop, laptop, netbook) and all three hang when the shutdown is trying to kill all processes.  It takes a few minutes before computer shuts off.
[15:17] <Nieros> 11.10 outright broke my system :D
[15:17] <jiltdil> look how the pic is looking by cheese
[15:17] <Squeeb> rad_sci_guy: log out, ctrl-alt+F2 to get into a console
[15:17] <Lufti_oO> I've problems with the texlive latex packages. I've installed the texlive-full and texlife-latex-extra package but the latex compiler still throws an error "! LaTeX Error: File `glossary.sty' not found" when I use the "glossary" package.
[15:17] <Lufti_oO> any idea?
[15:17] <justa> Nieros: same here. Next to the 'Unity is like smoking Crack'
[15:17] <Squeeb> rad_sci_guy: log in as root and `service lightdm stop`
[15:17] <Squeeb> rad_sci_guy: then `shutdown` and see where it hangs
[15:18] <jiltdil> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/20111014204556.jpg/
[15:18] <fmauro> 17:17 < jiltdil> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/20111014204556.jpg/
[15:18] <fmauro> 17:17 < jiltdil> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/20111014204556.jpg/
[15:18] <fmauro> 17:17 < jiltdil> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/20111014204556.jpg/
[15:18] <Squeeb> that should allow you to see which process is hanging
[15:18] <FloodBot1> fmauro: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:18] <zastaph> Squeeb, what do I do? try to reboot?
[15:18] <brian_> maybe the gnome shell broke the sound?
[15:18] <Squeeb> zastaph: either reboot or shutdown commands will do
[15:18] <insomnia_> holy crap everyone is having problems
[15:18] <Squeeb> insomnia_: pretty much
[15:18] <Suhel> Shaggy its clonezilla all over the place lol
[15:18] <insomnia_> 11.10= poop
[15:19] <reisio> fmauro: neat
[15:19] <Suhel> Dinner time bye guys
[15:19] <justa> Sloppy focus (focus follows mouse); where to enable/restore that ?
[15:19] <brian_> well the sound was working at one point, just a matter of getting it to work again
[15:19] <Twilo> how can i disable Unity - awful :-(
[15:19] <jiltdil> reisio : look the pixeles  http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/20111014204556.jpg/
[15:19] <jatt> insomnia_: why
[15:19] <Squeeb> Twilo: best way I've found so far is to install gnome-shell
[15:19] <Twilo> Squeeb: ok
[15:19] <Squeeb> Twilo: although not perfect, it's *almost* as good as the old desktop
[15:19] <insomnia_> too buggy
[15:20] <reisio> jiltdil: yup, that's weird
[15:20] <justa> I'm planning to start a ppa for gnome2 desktop for 11.10...
[15:20] <justa> and will pledge money on it.
[15:20] <jatt> gnome2 is the past
[15:20] <jiltdil> reisio: so any idea how to fix this?
[15:20] <jatt> forget about it
[15:20] <justa> Don't care.
[15:20] <bbbenji> reisio: fdisk shows all my paritions but ubuntu 11.10 install and gparted do not see them
[15:20] <jatt> gnome3 is the present and the future
[15:21] <zastaph> Squeeb, seems to be stuck again after shutdown
[15:21] <justa> Fine; but the 'way to work with Gnome3' is almost as bad as Unity
[15:21] <lenbust> this libc6 situation confuses me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/708054/
[15:21] <lenbust> how do I resolve the unmet dependecy?
[15:21] <justa> It's not 'better'; it's just wildly different
[15:21] <Whiskey> No one relly know any answer to that question?
[15:21] <jatt> you can always install xfce
[15:21] <KBentley57> should I be able to remove .debs that were previously installed, and doing:  sudo dpkg --purge *.deb?
[15:21] <KBentley57> *by doing
[15:21] <Egbert9e9> jatt: what's up with gnome in 11.10? I've heard it's all Unity now and the gnome present is half of what it was?
[15:21] <justa> and an amount of flexibility and choices get taken away with each iteration till it's something like an iPhone
[15:21] <balooo> hi everyone.  I was looking for a good tutorial on how to setup a virtualization enviorment on an ubuntu 11 server.  I ideally want to spin up  file based virtual machines of various distros (ubuntu, centos, redhat).  Can anyone point me in the right direction.  So far my best resource is: http://tinyurl.com/6xstlu8
[15:21] <venik212> How do I get more themes for ubuntu 11.10?  I hate the few that come with it.  B4 I was able to choose among several nice ones from the desktop configuration, but no  more..
[15:22] <Egbert9e9> jatt: I'm still downloading the packages needed to upgrade
[15:22] <jatt> I don't know dude I am upgrading at this very moment but some people seem to be annoyed by 11.10
[15:22] <jatt> I as hoping gnome 3 would be a cool thing to see
[15:22] <Squeeb> zastaph: at what point though
[15:22] <Squeeb> you should have seen the shutdown in progress
[15:22] <reisio> bbbenji: that happens sometimes
[15:22] <dweez> Egbert9e9, you can install Gnome 3 by sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[15:22] <reisio> bbbenji: what is it you want to do?
[15:22] <Egbert9e9> dweez: that's all?
[15:22] <jatt> so are you saying gnome 3 sucks as much as unity?
[15:22] <dweez> well, that gets you started
[15:23] <Egbert9e9> dweez: is it equivalent to "ubuntu-desktop"?
[15:23] <brian_> so no one else has broken sound other than insomnia and i?
[15:23] <dweez> jatt, not as much as Unity
[15:23] <dweez> I like it a bit better
[15:23] <kuchiku> i like ubuntu wallpaper change periodically
[15:23] <reisio> balooo: kvm is a good start
[15:23] <bbbenji> reisio: i would like to install ubuntu 11.10 alongside windows, but i have i cant define which partition i want to install to since it doesnt see them
[15:23] <OerHeks> brian_, broken sound after upgrade ?
[15:23] <dweez> Egbert9e9, I can't say if it's a equivalent or not as I don't know enough about either to make the comparison
[15:23] <zastaph> Squeeb, i run it in vbox .. it stops booting after 15-20 secs
[15:23] <insomnia_> yup, right after i rebooted
[15:23] <zastaph> then no more HDD activity
[15:23] <brian_> im not sure if it happened immediately after the gnome-shell install
[15:24] <reisio> bbbenji: put a file 'thisOne' on the partition you want to use from Windows
[15:24] <OerHeks> brian_, remove ~/.pulse & reboot
[15:24] <Egbert9e9> I mean, is the "gnome-shell" package equivalent to the package "ubuntu-desktop"
[15:24] <brian_> i tried that as well
[15:24] <reisio> bbbenji: then when you mount it from the live OS you'll know it's the right one
[15:24] <Egbert9e9> dweez: okay
[15:24] <surround> hello everybody
[15:24] <brian_> and reinstalled pulse
[15:24] <lyndon> exit
[15:24] <lyndon>
[15:24] <lyndon>
[15:24] <jatt> no
[15:24] <FloodBot1> lyndon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:24] <lyndon>
[15:24] <balooo> reisio: yes but will following / reading up on KVM allow me to setup centos / redhat virtual machines?
[15:24] <dweez> lyndon, type /part
[15:24] <jatt> ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package
[15:24] <TheProf> Pici, I was able to create the shared folder and now the users can write and read but can't delete any files.  How can they delete a file? Thank you.
[15:24] <bbbenji> reisio: the problem is the installed doesnt see any partitions at all! it only see the disk as a whole. id have no problem identifying which partition i want to install to if i could see them
[15:24] <DanaG> I actually like Unity better than Gnome-Shell.
[15:25] <reisio> balooo: yup
[15:25] <bbbenji> http://i53.tinypic.com/s5z6n4.png screenshot of what gparted shows
[15:25] <dweez> gnome-shell had several dependencies included but I don't know if, in general, it was a "meta package" or not
[15:25] <surround> i am able to use my laptop as a speakerphone using bluetooth in WIndows , how to do it in UBuntu 11.04
[15:25] <DanaG> Just needs some fixes to things.
[15:25] <balooo> reisio: do you have a good tutorial you can point me to?
[15:25] <dweez> !gnome-shell
[15:25] <reisio> bbbenji: that's gparted, you said fdisk works
[15:25] <insomnia_> how do i downgrade to 11.04?
[15:25] <dweez> !gnome
[15:25] <DanaG> Like: press super+w quickly.
[15:25] <DanaG> Press it again quickly.
[15:25] <reisio> balooo: for how to use kvm/libvirt/etc. for exactly what you want?
[15:25] <bbbenji> yes, fdisk sees the partitions, but the installer doesnt either
[15:25] <reisio> balooo: nope; maybe someone in ##linux has
[15:26] <bbbenji> reisio: so i cant define which partition i want to install to
[15:26] <DanaG> Testdisk
[15:26] <balooo> reisio: thanks
[15:26] <surround>  i am able to use my laptop as a speakerphone using bluetooth in WIndows , how to do it in ubuntu 11.04
[15:26] <reisio> bbbenji: if you setup a partition from fdisk that might change
[15:27] <Squeeb> Right, Final verdict
[15:27] <lars4> Hi, can anyone help me with a networking problem?
[15:27] <Squeeb> 11.10 is WRONG
[15:27] <bbbenji> reisio: i will try that. heres a screenshot of fdisk and installer: http://i55.tinypic.com/2u5s5fq.png
[15:27] <dweez> jatt and Egbert9e9, this is basically what I followed to install Gnome3 ==> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gnome-shell-in-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric-ocelot.html
[15:27] <Tenkawa> 11.10 definitely has hiccups
[15:27] <reisio> lars4: not until you explain it
[15:27] <brian_> what the command to remove the entire pulse directory?
[15:28] <lars4> reisio: I upgraded to oneiric desktop and DNS resolving is no longer working
[15:28] <reisio> bbbenji: interesting
[15:28] <reisio> bbbenji: maybe if you use the "alternate" install image, it has an "expert" mode, IIRC
[15:28] <jatt> Tenkawa: like what
[15:28] <reisio> lars4: tell the channel
[15:28] <complexity>  mogrify -resize '800x600' "$i";, why won't that go through
[15:29] <lars4> reisio: what do you mean?
[15:29] <complexity> it just keeps freezing, i'm trying to mass replace size of some images
[15:29] <bbbenji> reisio: oh great! thats what i need. thanks
[15:30] <surround> i am using my laptop as speakerphone using bluetooth in WIndows , how to do it Ubuntu 11.04
[15:30] <zastaph> Squeeb, under known issues it says: Users of VMWare Workstation 8 or VMWare Player may experience boot problems .. and i use vbox
[15:30] <Darael> Since I upgraded to Oneiric, all buttons and dropdowns in the various config boxes are unreadable unless currently selected - white text on a very-light-grey background - in Ambiance, Radiance, /and/ Adwaita.  Any ideas how I can get those elements looking as they ought to?  I've tried gnome-tweak-tool, and changing the GTK+ theme to Greybird solves it but causes /other/ elements to look out-of-place.
[15:31] <brian_> oerheks i get > after that command
[15:31] <Squeeb> zastaph: as far as you've mentioned so far you've not had a boot problem
[15:31] <reisio> Darael: the problem is with the default theme set?
[15:31] <Squeeb> just a shutdown problem
[15:31] <th0r> complexity: I think "$I" will be interpreted literally
[15:32] <surround> i am able to use my laptop as a speakerphone using bluetooth in WIndows , how to do it in ubuntu 11.04
[15:32]  * Tenkawa just wishes he could have the window manager back from natty just as is
[15:32] <jiltdil> Guys help me to fix my cheese problem
[15:32] <lars4> After upgrading to oneiric DNS resolving is no longer working. Just IP's work file.
[15:32] <complexity> th0r, meaning, i tried without quotes and still no luck?
[15:32] <Tenkawa> lars4: you check your resolv.conf and nsswitch.conf files?
[15:32] <Darael> reisio: Happens with Ambiance, Radiance and Adwaita.  Buttons and dropdowns have very similar text and background colours.  I'm /sure/ it can't be intended, because the background colour is so much lighter than the /window/ background colour.
[15:33] <surround> i am able to use my laptop as a speakerphone using bluetooth in WIndows , how to do it in ubuntu 11.04
[15:33] <w47331> i have an issue with my graphics not working correctly. Im new to linux and am confussed as to what to ask...any help to clear this up?
[15:33] <reisi> surround: please ask only once; if someone knows, you'll be answered
[15:34] <th0r> complexity: I just got it to work with no quotes, double or single. So try taking out all the quotes and see what happens
[15:34]  * jiltdil oh God 11.10 fixes the big bugs but now small things appeared with bugs that was not in 11.04
[15:34] <godzuki> w47331: What's happening?
[15:34] <anom001> what small things?
[15:35] <jiltdil> anom001: like cheese
[15:35] <babati> hi
[15:35] <reisio> babati: hi
[15:35] <mang0> I have a couple of questions about Oneiric; What are the changes? Is it worth updating? (from 11.04)
[15:35] <babati> need help with ubuntu
[15:36] <babati> could anyone help me pleas
[15:36] <babati> e
[15:36] <Darael> !help | babati
[15:36] <w47331> my video freezes when it trys to diag it says no support for texture found.DTX texture compression not required.
[15:36] <reisio> mang0: it's always worth updating software, assuming you have the time to fix any issues you might encounter
[15:36] <lauratika> i just upgrade to ocelotl but my gnome shell is gone... em i forced now to use unity?
[15:36] <anom001> jiltdil: yeah- that wasn't working for me on the 10.04 version, did on 11.04- we'll have to see if it stops working for me.
[15:36] <reisio> lauratika: no you aren't
[15:37] <babati> i need help removing Ubuntu and installing Windows XP. But when I boot in BIOS, it asks me for "current" password, I wrote root password and also changed it many times but still won't let me in. How can I bypass or get the password for it?
[15:37] <meowsus> Hey everyone
[15:37] <siganderson> my clock in kde disappeared, does this sound new?
[15:37] <jiltdil> anom001:  it was working fine on 11.04
[15:37] <Darael> lauratika: Shouldn't be.  It may be necessary to install the gnome-shell package again, but it'll work.
[15:37] <Squeeb> lol .. will this work? sed -i 's/oneiric/natty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && aptitude update
[15:37] <Squeeb> :P
[15:37] <lauratika> darael via ubuntu software
[15:37] <lauratika> ??
[15:37] <brian_> after i removed pulse audio now it shows no audio devices
[15:37] <gbacon> The upgrade to 11.10 on my laptop went badly (booted once this morning, but freezes now). I downloaded the live CD and am trying to repair, but I don't see an obvious repair option. I tried "Upgrade 11.10 to 11.10," but got nervous when it asked me for my login credentials.
[15:37] <Darael> lauratika: Well, personally I'd pull up a terminal and do a "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell", but it should be in the Software Centre too.
[15:38] <w47331> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/707773/
[15:38] <w47331> thats what i have
[15:38] <babati> i need help removing Ubuntu and installing Windows XP. But when I boot in BIOS, it asks me for "current" password, I wrote root password and also changed it many times but still won't let me in. How can I bypass or get the password for it?
[15:38] <lauratika> darael: thanx a lot
[15:38]  * jiltdil My experience with every ubuntu version that it works better after almot one month of release
[15:38] <meowsus> When switching between my virtual terminal (ctrl-alt-F1) and desktop mode, desktop mode hangs for about a minute. Black screen, I can move the cursor a bit, but I have to wait for everything to show itself and it's rather annoying. I'm running Oneiric and just upgraded last night.
[15:38] <reisi> Squeeb: i've once had to do a distribution upgrade that way once an upgrade failed... let's just say that your mileage may vary :)
[15:38] <Squeeb> I'm downgradeing
[15:38] <Squeeb> :P
[15:38] <Ady1963> Just installed Ubuntu 11.10, fed up with Unity already, how do i install KDE desktop, without install Kubuntu from Terminal
[15:39] <brian_> is there another option than pulse audio to get my system sound back?
[15:39] <Darael> babati: the BIOS password is nothing to do with Ubuntu.  However, if thou dost not need whatever settings are in thy BIOS, thou canst open the case and remove the CMOS battery to reset the BIOS, including its password.
[15:39] <meowsus> Ady1963: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[15:39] <insomnia_> to downgrade you need to DoD your hdd
[15:39] <reisi> Squeeb: hmm good point.. wouldn't recommend it though
[15:39] <complexity> th0r, that will work recursively?
[15:39] <SmartTowel> how do i change the preferred applications in 11.10?  i can't find it anywhere.  i want my Terminator back!
[15:39] <oCean> Squeeb: downgrading is explicitly not supported and may break your system.
[15:39] <Ady1963> meowsus: won't that brand everything KuBuntu?
[15:39] <Squeeb> oCean: it can't be much more broken than it is at the moment
[15:40] <Darael> meowsus: I've stopped suggesting people use aptitude 'cos it's got all sorts of dependency-resolution problems in Oneiric due to not supporting multiarch.
[15:40] <mang0> reisio: Okay, thanks.
[15:40] <reisio> brian_: pulse is extra on top of the ordinary sound system, ALSA, technically you can remove it
[15:40] <tomaszuuuu> Hi all! Have one question. I use Ubuntu 11.10 with GNOME3 and standard theme - Adwaita. In this theme, some windows aps are in grey color and some in black, like totem, picture viewer etc. Could i do the same think with terminal? I want it with black panels
[15:40] <th0r> complexity: I think so, but I am no bash guru. If it doesn't work, either add an 'echo $i' so you can see the filename it is looking for, or program a fixed filename to see if it works
[15:40] <oCean> Squeeb: in that case opt for a reinstall
[15:40] <EClaesson> I recently upgraded to 11.10. Is there any way to restore it to show me the "Gnome Classic" as it were in 11.04? I have installed gnome-shell, and logged in with "Gnome Classic" but there still is very different
[15:40] <reisio> Squeeb: only a temporary solution
[15:40] <babati> anyone can answer my question
[15:40] <babati> ???
[15:40] <meowsus> Ady1963: ... yes, but Kubuntu is just Ubuntu with KDE...
[15:40] <gbacon> can I repair a broken upgrade from the 11.10 live CD?
[15:40] <reisio> babati: I can answer your question, yes, and just did
[15:40] <Darael> !notunity | EClaesson - especially the gnome-panel bit of this
[15:40] <Ady1963> no probs, many thanks
[15:40] <babati> sry, could you repeat, my xchat closed tiself
[15:41] <th0r> complexity: I suspect the problem might be how you are defining $i, not the mogrify commandline
[15:41] <Darael> babati: the BIOS password is nothing to do with Ubuntu.  However, if thou dost not need whatever settings are in thy BIOS, thou canst open the case and remove the CMOS battery to reset the BIOS, including its password.
[15:41] <SmartTowel> how do i change the preferred applications in 11.10?
[15:41] <Tenkawa> classic looks so much different though in 11.10 than even natty
[15:41] <babati> what is CMOS battery?
[15:41] <SmartTowel> im using gnome and 11.10
[15:41] <tomaszuuuu> Hi all! Have one question. I use Ubuntu 11.10 with GNOME3 and standard theme - Adwaita. In this theme, some windows aps are in grey color and some in black, like totem, picture viewer etc. Could i do the same think with terminal?  U-buntu prefers Gnome applications, Ku-buntu prefers KDE applications Xu-buntu prefers XFCE applications
[15:42] <tomaszuuuu> yes
[15:42] <jiltdil> babati: if u forgot ur bios password  you can  bypass it by bios cleanup it is a s/w
[15:42] <Darael> babati: It's nothing to do with the OS.  There's a password on the BIOS, which is lower-level, and without it it'll take opening the case to get at the BIOS settings.
[15:42] <reisio> Adwaita?  Wow, some name
[15:42] <oCean> !upgrade | babati that version is no longer supported, you will have to upgrade
[15:42] <SmartTowel> @tomaszuuu, how did u do it in 11.10?  this default terminal is lame.
[15:42] <jiltdil> babati: no need to pull jumper from battery , it's now old day method
[15:42] <jatt> ubuntu 7.04
[15:42] <donofrio> 11.10 release - b43 cannot get 4306 rev3 firmware to load?
[15:42] <Darael> oCean: babati is wanting to move to WinXP, it would seem.
[15:42] <brian_> reisio how can i reinstall alsa maybe that will fix my broken sound?
[15:42] <SmartTowel> i want to switch it to terminator.
[15:42] <Squeeb> fuck
[15:42] <Squeeb> time to format
[15:42] <Tenkawa> am I missing something or can you not change the default session type on the login screen?
[15:42] <Squeeb> *sigh*
[15:42] <babati> yeah, so there's no way to get the BIOS pass?
[15:42] <FloodBot1> Squeeb: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:42] <tomaszuuuu> i use gnome3
[15:42] <reisio> babati: please explain what it is you think the "BIOS" is
[15:42] <oCean> Squeeb: control your language here
[15:42] <Darael> !ohmy | Squeeb
[15:43] <reisio> Squeeb: ...
[15:43] <babati> the BIOS is when the pc boots, i press DEL
[15:43] <Squeeb> lol .. spam from so many bots
[15:43] <babati> and then it asks for a password.
[15:43] <reisio> Squeeb: the only reason to format is if you want to wipe all your data for security reasons
[15:43] <babati> which i never set one neither know it :/
[15:43] <reisio> babati: okay
[15:43] <rob25> Hello, everyone. I have installed from 11.04 to 11.10 and it seems that even though I am connected to the internet, I cannot use the internet without painfully slow speeds. Anyone know a solution to this?
[15:43] <Tenkawa> every login it changes the session back to ubuntu
[15:43] <reisio> babati: why is it you want to access the BIOS
[15:43] <Squeeb> reisio: ?
[15:43] <babati> cause i want to set boot from CD.
[15:43] <reisio> Squeeb: ?
[15:43] <donofrio> ?
[15:43] <babati> so i can install windows xp, since ubuntu 7.04 is way too old and my dad bought me a CD key
[15:43] <meowsus> rob25: have you checked Additional Drivers?
[15:43] <donofrio> b43 anyone use it?
[15:43] <bhavesh> Im trying to install ubuntu 10.10 in my Asus EEE pc 900HA but in "Allocate drive space" it gives me only two options "Erase and use entire" or specify manually.. where is install alongside another OS..?
[15:43] <donofrio> with 11.10
[15:44] <reisio> babati: you don't want to just upgrade Ubuntu?
[15:44] <rob25> meowsus: It seems that when I tried to do that, it says there aren't any available.
[15:44] <vafied> babati: are you using a desktop ?
[15:44] <reisio> bhavesh: specify manually
[15:44] <tomaszuuuu> Hi all! Have one question. I use Ubuntu 11.10 with GNOME3 and standard theme - Adwaita. In this theme, some windows aps are in grey color and some in black, like totem, picture viewer etc. Could i do the same think with terminal?   Thou wilt have to specify manually.
[15:44] <rob25> meowsus: Wifi.
[15:44] <bhavesh> ok
[15:44] <jiltdil> babati:  i have already told u the method to bypass bios
[15:44] <babati> sorry didn't read too many people talking, could you repeat?
[15:45] <mang0> I've got a few themes and dock and custom stuff installed. If I update to Oneiric will I lose those themes?
[15:45] <softcoder> trying to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10 64 bit
[15:45] <meowsus> rob25: do you have the hwinfo package installed?
[15:45] <softcoder> during update i get:
[15:45] <Darael> bhavesh: The most likely reason for this is that there are four primary partitions already in place, in which case one will have to go.
[15:45] <softcoder> W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'restricted/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
[15:45] <venik212> How do I get more themes for ubuntu 11.10?  I hate the few that come with it.  B4 I was able to choose among several nice ones from the desktop configuration, but no  more..
[15:45] <rob25> meowsus: Not sure, how would I obtain it if I didn't have it.
[15:45] <a7i3n> I have a t400 laptop. Up until now the key to turn off the touchpad has worked. Now broken. Anyone know how to fix this?
[15:45] <jiltdil> babati: if u forgot ur bios password  you can  bypass it by bios cleanup it is a s/w, pulling jumper from battery is now an old method and sometimes risky
[15:45] <softcoder> any ideas?
[15:45] <rob25> mewosus: *?
[15:45] <softcoder> also: , W:Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 11.10 _Oneiric Ocelot_ - Release amd64 (20111012)/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[15:45] <bhavesh> Darael, ok
[15:45] <donofrio> 4306 broadcom does anyone have a fix for tinyurl.com/b43-not-working-in-11-10
[15:45] <babati> what is s/w ? and how can i access bios cleanupo
[15:45] <softcoder> the burned ISO is in my cdrom
[15:46] <babati> cleanup
[15:46] <vafied> babati: open your desktop look at the motherboard and find the batery next to the battery you will find a jumper switch positions as indicated on the motherboard
[15:46] <Darael> bhavesh: The other possibility is that the installer can't make enough space by resizing existing partitions.
[15:46] <morsedl3> mang0: i have, so far, lost all themes.  i suspect i can add them back, using gnome-tweak, but so far have not done that.  it seems that oneiric, by default, only handles the default themes included with the distro. :(
[15:46] <reisio> jiltdil: what's the homepage?
[15:46] <bhavesh> k
[15:46] <tomaszuuuu> mang0 - home folder is untouchable
[15:46] <reisio> 'bios cleanup' you may as well say 'eat at joes'
[15:46] <bhavesh> Darael, Its showing Unknown for one partition
[15:46] <bhavesh> sda4
[15:46] <bhavesh> File system: unknown
[15:46] <mne>  Hi. During system bootup, I would like to mount a number of encrypted disks. The key for the first disk should come from the entered passphrase, whereas the keys for the subsequent disks should be stored on the first encrypted disks. How can I realize this ? Just adding everything to /etc/crypttab will obviously not do it as at the time crypttab is read, the first cryptodisk is not mounted yet.
[15:46] <babati> is there other way to reset it, without opening the motherboard?
[15:47] <Darael> bhavesh: I wouldn't know, I'm afraid.
[15:47] <bhavesh> Darael, and what does PE flag stand for? in gparteD?
[15:47] <softcoder> is there a better place for 11.10 support?
[15:47] <meowsus> rob25: open a terminal and run "sudo aptitude install hwinfo"
[15:47] <vafied> babati: it is really easy and only need to open your desktop case
[15:47] <mang0> morsedl3: OIC. I'm not sure if I want to upgrade or not :/
[15:47] <nytek_> Anybody having trouble with their system when upgrading to 11.10?
[15:47] <Gotisch> Hello, i am using the fallback gnome desktop and when using alt-tab to get the switcher i just get one window displayed in it even though there are multiple. the swicher app also looks very different it just has an application icon with the title below it.
[15:47] <babati> desktop case?
[15:48] <rob25> meowsus: It's telling me aptitude: command not found
[15:48] <babati> u mean motherboard?
[15:48] <donofrio> anyone use broadcom 4306 with ubuntu 11.10?
[15:48] <nytek_> rob25: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[15:48] <meowsus> :O
[15:48] <reisio> mne: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto
[15:48] <babati> the problem is that my father has locked the motherboard and he's away from home for a few weeks
[15:48] <Gotisch> it pops up even though i have disable it in the keyboard shortcuts
[15:48] <swaroop> I tried the live cd on my acer aspire 4736 laptop, but it showed a blank screen. So i again booted with nomodeset and it was working fine. So I guess it is taking vesa driver. But i want support for intel GMA 4500MHD chipset. Is it possible?
[15:48] <swat_> upgraded to oneiric and the networking applet has gone walkabout in unity :-/
[15:48] <meowsus> rob25: try "sudo apt-get install hwinfo" (i'm an aptitude user, they work very similarly)
[15:48] <vafied> babati: http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000235.htm
[15:48] <PastulioLive> babati, not doing anything immorral are we? :p
[15:48] <cutiyar> i cant SHut down my ubu tu 11.10
[15:49] <rob25> meowsus: Already started install aptitude, but it's going at a painfully slow speed.
[15:49] <vafied> lol
[15:49] <jiltdil> cutiyar: open terminal use sudo init 0 :)
[15:49] <meowsus> rob25: sorry about that, you can Ctrl-C it if you want
[15:49] <mne> reisi, if I add an init script that mounts the disk, I would also subvert the regular ubuntu mounting process.
[15:49] <meowsus> You want hwinfo, not specifically aptitude
[15:49] <rob25> meowsus: Alright, I'll do that and try the command above.
[15:49] <donofrio> fwcutter not working unsupported?
[15:50] <cutiyar> jiltdil, why its happenning how to fix?
[15:50] <morsedl3> mang0: it wasn't particularly pleasant for me, so you may wish to wait a bit.  i opt'd to upgrade from natty instead of fresh install, which might have been better.  the switch from /var/run to /run caused several problems during upgrade (no X / GUI, no networking because system-dbus-socket or somesuch wasn't found -- i had to manually move the old contents of /var/run into /run, and then symlink /var/run to /run and /var/lock to
[15:50] <morsedl3> /run/lock)
[15:50] <bhavesh> One of my drives is flagged hidden,lba what would it possibly mean?
[15:50] <softcoder> anyone?
[15:50] <softcoder> help with a simple upgrade to 11.10 ??
[15:50] <mne> reisi, Thus my script would do an incompatible and non-standard way of checking and mounting the disk. I would prefer a standard way that is compatible with the ubuntu bootup process
[15:50] <donofrio> *anyone* use a notebook with ubuntu 11.10 like say dell d830 its got a broadcom 4306 chip in it and I need firmware
[15:50] <jiltdil> cutiyar: no idea dude but i think after some days these bugs will be recovered , need to install one more time after some days
[15:51] <rob25> Is it just me or have other people been getting wifi problems with the new update?
[15:51] <urlin2u> !broadcom
[15:51] <donofrio> rob25 - me me
[15:51] <Bloomz> Could anyone help me please? I have just tried to update Ubuntu but I hadn't realised my hard drive had ran out of space. Half way through the install I made some space but after the Reboot I can no longer get past the login screen even though I'm intering the correct password.
[15:51] <mang0> morsedl3: Bah, too much work. I'm perfectly happy with 11.04, was just thinking about the pros/cons of updating :) thanks
[15:51] <cutiyar> jiltdil, ok i thought its mine only
[15:51] <reisio> mne: rc.local is pretty standard, I don't see the problem
[15:51] <wcchandler> dual booters -- i'm looking to roll win7 and ubuntu side by side.  Is it best interest to run wubi inside a win7 install?  or just partition manually?
[15:51] <govatent> Does anyone use AIM with empathy? I am having an issue on my clean 11.10 install adding my account.
[15:51] <rob25> donofrio: It's weird, mine was working before 11.10
[15:51] <jiltdil> cutiyar: i got these problems with my 11.04
[15:51] <reisio> wcchandler: manually
[15:51] <rob25> donofrio: I'm installing a package now that will hopefull fix it, though.
[15:51] <reisio> wcchandler: which is to say, leave space for Ubuntu
[15:51] <zelhar> Hello. After upgrading to 11.10 I have Xorg maxing out core cpu and after some idle time instead of Xorg it is powernapd that's maxing core cpu
[15:51] <donofrio> exactly like this linke tinyurl.com/b43-not-working-in-11-10
[15:52] <meowsus> rob25: hwinfo will just give me details on the card itself
[15:52] <urlin2u> wcchandler, wubi is not for longtime use make sure you backup windows nomatter the install.
[15:52] <donofrio> I did that too what package?
[15:52] <gbacon> gack, boot is now dropping me into initramfs shell
[15:52] <meowsus> well, us*
[15:52] <usertwo> i have just installed 11.10 and nautilus is incredibly slow (13 minutes to open). I have tried some of the online fixes but no change. Is there a light fast alternative available quickly from the repositories. I only use file managers to copy files to / from usb.
[15:52] <morsedl3> mang0: I must say, though, the system seems faster to boot and to run faster, which i imagine is due to linux kernel 3.0.  however, it's also know that kernel 3.0 presently consumes about 30% more power, which can be undesireable for laptops/netbooks (alttough there is any easy temporary workaround)
[15:52] <wcchandler> should I partition before a win7 install or shrink the partition down after an install?
[15:52] <JeremyFishCakes> usertwo: thunar is nice
[15:52] <reisio> wcchandler: partitioning beforehand will be safer and less time consuming
[15:52] <reisio> wcchandler: assuming you haven't yet installed Windows
[15:52] <gbacon> I tried booting an older Linux kernel (default is 3.0), but I landed in initramfs there too
[15:52] <rob25> meowsus: Oh, I see.
[15:53] <meowsus> (hardware info)
[15:53] <mang0> morsedl3: Interesting. What about CPU and RAM usage?
[15:53] <rob25> meowsus: I'm not very good when it comes to stuff on the terminal...
[15:53] <bhavesh> One of my Partition is LBA = Logical Block Addressing, is it safe to format it.?
[15:53] <rob25> meowsus: I
[15:53] <rob25> mewosus: *I'm looking at about 5b per second here
[15:53] <urlin2u> wcchandler, partition windows from windows it has a disc managment device, rember no more than 4 primaries per hd or 3 primaries and one extended, and make sure you know if it is a gpt or not.
[15:53] <meowsus> rob25: i wasn't either, man. The more I used the WDM the more I realized that i could do things way faster with Terminal, but i enjoy working in a desktop envrionment...
[15:53] <donofrio> anyone else useing 11.10 with broadcom chips needing firmware for 4306 rev3 wireless card
[15:53] <meowsus> :O jeepers!
[15:54] <meowsus> rob25: is this an internal card that came with the computer, ie. a laptop wireless nic card
[15:54] <mne> reisio, suppose you're booting up your system. Then from time to time, fsck will be run and you will see a nice bar indicating how much is already done. Also it will display something like "^C to cancel fsck". However, if I do that will my script, I can not use this
[15:54] <donofrio> meowsus, yes its built in for me
[15:54] <donofrio> as well
[15:54] <rob25> meowsus: It's a laptop, so it basically just a wireless card that I'm just stuck with
[15:54] <usertwo> JeremyFishCakes: can i just uninstall nautilus and install thunar without any problems? (i didnt see thunar in synaptic)
[15:54] <meowsus> rob25: not necessarily, but it should be fine
[15:54] <meowsus> It's probably just a weirdo driver issue
[15:55] <urlin2u> wcchandler, others can help I gotta go to a class.
[15:55] <donofrio> meowsus, well its a firmware issue
[15:55] <rob25> meowsus: It's been working before 11.10, I'm not quite sure what made it break.
[15:55] <reisio> mne: naturally, because that happens before filesystems are mounted, before the OS is running fully, before even your first encrypted filesystem is loaded after you type in a password
[15:55] <rob25> meowsus: It's also been working on my 10.04 install.
[15:55] <JeremyFishCakes> usertwo, you should be able to sudo apt-get install thunar
[15:55] <freshinstall> Hey ubuntu team, why do you treat every release like it's for a bunch of people that are new to it, killing off features and adding them with disregard for what people are used to using? :-)
[15:55] <morsedl3> mang0: across the board seems good if not better, especially cpu.  i have 12gig ram, so i don't often worry about ram, but i can say that, with unity, firefox, thunderbird, terminator, and xchat2, skype,dropbox, and the usual unity indicators  being the only things open right now, system is only using 2.6GB of that 12GB.
[15:55] <usertwo> morsedl3: i am using an asus 1500ah netbook which may explain why 11.10 is so slow. what is the temp workaround you mentioned?
[15:55] <RockyDd> hi, guys.
[15:56] <JadedJacob> where is terminal in 11.10?
[15:56] <JeremyFishCakes> usertwo, you can remove nautilus but you could also just set thunar as the default, and put it in the launcher
[15:56] <RockyDd> Does 'dpkg -l' list all the packages I installed in the system?
[15:56] <donofrio> meowsus - do you have b43?
[15:56] <freshinstall> RockyDd, yep
[15:56] <reisio> freshinstall: it's the nature of commercial organizations to be insane
[15:56] <meowsus> donofrio: broadcom drivers are us
[15:56] <freshinstall> reisio, at the other end of the spectrum is suse enterprise desktop, that is stuck in the 90s :-)
[15:57] <meowsus> donofrio: don't you mean bcm43?
[15:57] <RockyDd> But, why some package is in that list, but when I try to remove it, says ' the package is not installed' ? freshinstall
[15:57] <morsedl3> usertwo: hold on a sec, trying to find url...
[15:57] <cutiyar> after every booting under thw ubuntu logo say waiting for network configuration and takes too long to load system.
[15:57] <axisys> i have three chrome window .. how do I pick one in unity? it is alwasy default to the first chrome window
[15:57] <donofrio> meowsus, - cool so how do I get my 4306 rev 3 card working it ways its missing .fw files
[15:57] <reisio> freshinstall: to be fair, "enterprise" is code for "only for using software that hasn't changed in decades"
[15:57] <mne> reisio, exactly, and that's the problem. Is there a way to maybe store the key somewhere else than on the filesystem ? Maybe in an encrypted part of the LUKS header of the first disk ?
[15:57] <reisio> but yeah
[15:57] <mang0> morsedl3: I was just wonding in about it because I have a awful comp; 1.46GHz CPU and 1GB ram. You see, I am saving up for a new comp but I'm 14 with no job (atm) so it's gonna take a while!
[15:57] <morsedl3> usertwo: see "longer battery life" at http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[15:57] <reisio> mne: you can do anything you want with software
[15:57] <meowsus> donofrio: Are you using.... oh what's that called... ndiswrapper or something?
[15:58] <freshinstall> RockyDd, try apt-cache search <packagename>* <- note the star on the end of that
[15:58] <reisio> mne: but your scheme relies on you entering that first password if I'm not mistaken
[15:58] <Gotisch> http://imageshack.us/f/233/201110141753341920x1200.png/ <- this is how the taskswitcher looks, it only shows two windows even though there are many more and in keyboard shortcuts it is completly disabled. where can i find its settings?
[15:58] <donofrio> meowsus, tried to follow steps here tinyurl.com/623zrth
[15:58] <reisio> mne: have to wait for that no matter what
[15:58] <donofrio> meowsus, but it didn't work
[15:58] <donofrio> no - no ndis aaaarrrrhhhh
[15:58] <donofrio> never
[15:58] <cutiyar> after every booting under thw ubuntu logo say waiting for network configuration and takes too long to load system.
[15:58] <mne> reisio, yep. but /etc/crypttab is processed sequentially. So at the time the second disk is processed, the first one is already set up
[15:59] <freshinstall> what are the gnome guys smoking that they think the new panel is an improvement?? :-)
[15:59] <usertwo> morsedl3: thanks...reading now
[15:59] <freshinstall> where are all the frikkin features!?
[15:59] <SmartTowel> how so i change my PREFERRED APPLICATIONS in ubuntu 11.10?
[15:59] <freshinstall> me going to try kde4 - it can't be worse
[15:59] <RockyDd> freshinstall: yeah, there are 2 items listed. so?
[15:59] <morsedl3> mang0: you might do better with lubuntu for the time being, then
[15:59] <chiara> hi i have a problem with ... hdmi and ndvidia. I have desktop pc ...
[15:59] <reisio> mne: so what's the problem
[16:00] <donofrio> meowsus - see what I mean - the issue is documented here tinyurl.com/b43-do-not-work-on 11-10
[16:00] <freshinstall> RockyDd, so try entering one of those instead of what you tried that failed
[16:00] <mang0> morsedl3: 11.04 runs like a dream, so it's all good :).
[16:00] <RockyDd> ok, thanks, freshinstall
[16:01] <freshinstall> nps
[16:01] <ron> ugh. I just upgraded to 11.10, however I can't seem to be able to login from the gui. if I open a console, everything is fine. if I use the gui, the windows goes black, kinda blinks and then returns to the main login window. any suggestions?
[16:01] <sianhulo> people, how do i boot my computer from an usb with bios?
[16:01] <morsedl3> mang0: check.  then you might actually find 11.10 be somewhat better.  hard do know for sure, though, until you actully try.  why not d/l the live cd and and boot from cd to give it a try (will not alter your HD unless you want it to)
[16:01] <erin> is 60c normal for a laptop processor ?
[16:01] <donofrio> meowsus, you still about?
[16:02] <meowsus> donofrio: I guess your not the PM type... The drivers for which were just in Additional Drivers
[16:02] <donofrio> does anyone else know why b4306 is non-working
[16:02] <mne> reisio, I don't know if it is possible at all to use keys in the LUKS header as keys for other disks
[16:02] <meowsus> Have you installed those?
[16:02] <neo84> Hi all
[16:02] <morsedl3> ron: i had the same problem.  did you fresh install or upgrade
[16:02] <donofrio> PM?
[16:02] <morsedl3> ?
[16:02] <meowsus> Private Message
[16:02] <ron> morsedl3: upgrade.
[16:02] <meowsus> For some reason my XChat is not highlighting my name like it should
[16:02] <SmartTowel> how do i change the default applications in ubuntu?  i want to change the program for the terminal.  can someone just answer real quick plz.
[16:02] <freshinstall> ron, i had problems with the nvidia driver
[16:02] <mang0> morsedl3: Yeah, that's a good idea, but I've not got a lot of CD's so I'd rather do it via terminal than liveCD. Ofc, it's possible though. I'll just stick with .04 for now though :P
[16:03] <freshinstall> had to kill it to get this thing to boot up properly - it's an HP elitebook - ron
[16:03] <neo84> After upgreading to 11.10, my launcher stop comming and all the icons gone from start pane. also al+f2 i s  not working . your help will be much appriciated
[16:03] <morsedl3> ron: it might be related to system dbus errors.  this futzed for me during upgrade and i could not get networking nor display to work (ati fglx drivers).
[16:03] <cutiyar> how to terminal console while booting to enter Fsck to fix , because its not turnning on
[16:03] <donofrio> meowsus, I fingured everyone could befit from the info (plus xchat is *not* konversation)
[16:03] <morsedl3> ron: look for system dbus / cannot connect to dbus errors in /var/log/syslog.
[16:03] <mne> reisio, from what I can see in the cryptsetup man page, there is no way to obtain keys from the LUKS header
[16:03] <freshinstall> erin, 60c is OK
[16:04] <reisio> mne: ask ##linux
[16:04] <freshinstall> not cool, but 90c is hot
[16:04] <ron> freshinstall, morsedl3 : okay, that's possible. I'm on ion, so the nvidia drivers could be at fault. okay, let me check the logs.
[16:04] <cutiyar> how to terminal console while booting to enter Fsck to fix , because its not turnning on
[16:04] <morsedl3> ron: if you find that, then what worked for me might work for you.  boot into recovery mode, choose the option to remount filesystems as read-write (default recovery now mounts the root filesystem readonly).
[16:04] <erin> freshinstall, but running xchat only on xfwm? might be dust in side im thinking need canned air.
[16:05] <donofrio> meowsus, I'm on PM
[16:05] <freshinstall> ron i did this -> sudo su -, set root password (passwd), <alt><f1> -> login as root, startx, remove prop. drivers, reboot, all good :-)
[16:05] <debg> Hi all, anyone knows how to setup dual boot Windows 7 and ubuntu on an UEFI based Bios
[16:05] <freshinstall> ron, oh, alt-f1 was the first thing (or ctrl-alt-f1)
[16:05] <ron> freshinstall: did you reinstall the prop. drivers afterall?
[16:05] <erin> debg, whats a uefi bios?
[16:05] <freshinstall> ron, no
[16:06] <ron> freshinstall: I think I need those :-/
[16:06] <morsedl3> ron: then, as root user, 'mv /var/run/* /run; mv /var/lock/* /run/lock; rm -rf /var/run; rm -rf /var/lock; ln -s /run /var/run; ln -s /run/lock /var/lock'.
[16:06] <reisio> erin: a thing
[16:06] <morsedl3> ron: then reboot and see if you get your X back
[16:06] <graingert> erin: there is no such thing as a uefi bios
[16:06] <graingert> it's a uefi
[16:06] <shaye> I am used to mint, it seems I cant get my inspiron 1501 to hook wirelessly to ubuntu 11.10??? help.
[16:06] <freshinstall> erin, should clean out heatsinks yearly, esp if you use it on fabric/have a dusty room/have intakes on the underside
[16:06] <graingert> uefi replaced bios
[16:06] <debg> yes, uefi based laptop ,
[16:06] <graingert> shaye: what does that mean?
[16:07] <shaye> I loaded the brodcom driver but can not get hooked to a wireless network
[16:07] <graingert> shaye: laptops can't hook wirelessly to operating systems so that's WAD
[16:07] <fVckingmania> people I have a problem with postfix + clamsmtp this is the error log I get from postfix "" 11:56:44 mail October 14 postfix / master [3592]: fatal: bind <IP_ADDRESS> port 10025: Address already in use ""
[16:07] <erin> freshinstall, well getting all the way to the sink its self isn't an option since it's a laptop and super complicated to take apart/back together so hopefully I can get canned air hose in the vent pretty far.
[16:07] <shaye> yes it did hook with mint
[16:07] <zikalify> hi did an upgrade using 11.10 disc, looked at my software sources and only ones ticked are 'independent' and 'independent (source code)' can someone help me via pm?
[16:08] <freshinstall> erin, use your vacuum cleaner
[16:08] <shaye> with mint i needed a wired connection to load restricted drivers then it worked
[16:08] <erin> freshinstall, like a shopvac hose on the bottom fan?
[16:08] <pisto> can someone explain me what has replaced the synaptic package manager and most importantly how the heck I run it
[16:08] <freshinstall> erin, suck on the intake, so the dust travels back in the direction it came from - if you blow it you'll just send it deeper inside ;-)
[16:08] <graingert> shaye: no it didn't. it connected to a wireless network.   However, i have NO dependency issues with the apt system from the command line.  apt-get -f install shows no problems, 0 packages he
[16:10] <morsedl3> ld, to upgrade, to remove, etc.  i've also tried dpkg --configure -a, but no joy.
[16:10] <Reaper> thanx reisio
[16:10] <shaye> stand by please
[16:10] <graingert> shaye: run lsusb and pastebin the output
[16:10] <shaye> ????
[16:10] <fritsch> !pastebin | shaye
[16:10] <shaye> this talk i do not understand
[16:10] <sianhulo> somebody knows how to boot with an usb by grub?
[16:10] <TRider> I have problems installing ubuntu. I get error 22 i think during the ''grab process''.
[16:11]  * freshinstall never understood why make a *lap*top try to breathe from underside
[16:11] <jochenh_> hey! if I start my installed 11.10 the monitor shows: "Mode not supported", so I cannot start anything. Please help!
[16:11] <wad> Just upgraded to 11.10, but there seems to be no way to set up the screensavers anymore... where did it go?
[16:12] <graingert> shaye: pastebin the output of the command "lsusb" and send me the link
[16:12] <joe2371> Hello, folks.
[16:12] <pagan0ne> anyone know how to get nautilus setback up with a "up" button? upgraded to 11.10 and installed gnome because i dont like unity
[16:12] <graingert> shaye: please tag me when you talk to me so I can see you have responded
[16:12] <morsedl3> wad: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html might help, it talks about no screen savers in gnome, although i'm not sure if that also applies to unity
[16:13] <wad> morsedl3, thanks!
[16:13] <shaye> i am sorry i do not understnd
[16:13] <morsedl3> wad: np
[16:13] <ron> freshinstall, morsedl3: apparently, if I try to log in as a different user, it works fine. any idea?
[16:13] <joe2371> So... Oneric...
[16:13] <morsedl3> ron: hmmm... not sure.  have you tried logging in using unity2d?
[16:14] <joe2371> Anyone know how to get a working toolchain in 11.10?
[16:14] <morsedl3> ron: (just to see if perhaps it's compiz related)
[16:14] <ron> morsedl3: let me check
[16:14] <douggle> Hi can anyone tell me what is the best way to replace alsa?  wine is crashing  every time initialize an audio connection
[16:14] <ron> morsedl3: nope, doesn't work.
[16:14] <freshinstall> ron, left over settings?  dunno.
[16:15] <trb> I am trying to add a file to the etc/udev/rules.d location and it is denying me permission how can I do this?
[16:15] <reisio> douggle: better to fix Wine
[16:15] <TRider> I have problems installing ubuntu. I get error 22 i think during the ''grab process''.
[16:15] <chiara> hi i have a problem with ... hdmi and ndvidia. I have desktop pc ...
[16:15] <reisio> douggle: or instead use an app that is native
[16:15] <graingert> douggle: try using OpenAL
[16:15] <jakemp> how do I get shell scripts to run from my dash?
[16:15] <reisio> jakemp: same way you do with any other shell
[16:15] <Guest80177> I've installed Gnome themes through applet - the problem is the theme is installed only for 1 user. I'd like to make it global. But I'm not sure what I need to copy to have all components which I've installed (borders, buttons, icons)
[16:15] <freshinstall> wow I'm FURIOUS I'm being forced into learning a new UI.
[16:15] <reisio> freshinstall: you aren't
[16:16] <douggle> you arent being forced into anything. i m not using unity.
[16:16] <freshinstall> reisio, any ideas how to install gnome2? :-)
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> freshinstall: why? if you don't like, use something else, it's what i do
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> it*
[16:16] <douggle> use gnome-shell
[16:16] <tommis> freshinstall, you are not forced
[16:16] <serengeti> hello :) I've installed gnome shell in oneiric and everything works well, apart from one thing: when I browse applications in the overlay, most apps are duplicated. For example, there are 2 entries for Firefox, one with a nice icon from the icon from the icon theme, and the other with some low-res image. Any ideas?
[16:16] <tommis> serengeti, it is a bug
[16:17] <freshinstall> i'm more referring to gnome than ubuntu
[16:17] <morsedl3> anyone having problems with WOL after upgrade?  it was working fine in Natty, but now, no matter what i do, it won't work.
[16:17] <jakemp> reisio, I have already made it executable, but when I open it in the dash, it opens the script in gedit.
[16:17] <tommis> i heard someone had the same problem
[16:17] <ron> the odd thing is that the guest session works fine. so it must be something wrong with my user profile.
[16:17] <jochenh_> Hey! If I start my fresh installed, the Monitor says: "Mode not supported" , it doesn't load anything, please help!
[16:17] <morsedl3> ron: k
[16:17] <reisio> jakemp: when you do what?
[16:17] <majdekalel> is there any tool for ubuntu to trim audio ???
[16:17] <shaye> i do not see an option to hook wirelessly?
[16:17] <ron> can anyone think of a way to fix it (other than creating a new user)?
[16:17] <pagan0ne> anyone have any idea how to get nautilus to have a "up" button again, navigation sucks now
[16:17] <serengeti> tommis: ok, I guess I'll look for the bug report
[16:17] <reisio> freshinstall: just use gnome-shell with gnome-panel
[16:17] <graingert> douggle: yeah upgrade to latest PPA wine
[16:17] <reisio> majdekalel: trim?
[16:17] <sianhulo> people, i want to boot from my pendrive by grub, what i have to do?
[16:17] <douggle> okay
[16:18] <douggle> i ll try that
[16:18] <graingert> douggle: they have good audio support
[16:18] <majdekalel> cut audio
[16:18] <Reaper> ack! lol must get back to classic ubuntu look
[16:18] <jakemp> reisio, when I type in the name of the script and hit enter in the dash
[16:18] <majdekalel> split or cut or trim
[16:18] <neo84> Help friends
[16:18] <neo84>  After upgreading to 11.10, my launcher stop comming and all the icons gone from start pane. also al+f2 i s  not working . your help will be much appriciated
[16:18] <craigbass1976> Anyone ever ran adobe connect on ubuntu?
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo: use unetbootin, it's wahat i do
[16:18] <sandstrom> What can I do if top shows too much information? (a ton of processes, starting at pid 1..~150) http://pastie.org/2695634
[16:18] <jochenh_> majdekalel: audacity
[16:18] <morsedl3> ron: anything in syslog or .xsession-errors (in your homedir) thats revealing?
[16:18] <majdekalel> ok thank you i will try it
[16:18] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust, that's for booting by the BIOS, i want to boot by GRUB
[16:19] <nixmaniack> which connection manager is default in 11.10? I have messed up with ConnMan and Network Manger. how do I restore it
[16:19] <trb> I am trying to add a file to the etc/udev/rules.d location and it is denying me permission how can I do this?
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo: unetbootin can put the live iso into grub, it's how i'm here as we speak
[16:19] <trb> The file is simply this... File name 98-bispirate.rules  and contains this statement... SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{serial}=="A5005D8K", GROUP="users", MODE="0660", SYMLINK+="buspirate"
[16:19] <douggle> i m a try using wine 1.2 since i m using 1.3.28
[16:19] <TRider> ubuntu only runs on live cd. I install on a hard disk with no partitions and get error 22 in the grab process.Can anyone help ?
[16:19] <ron> morsedl3: I'll check. god I hate unity.
[16:20] <graingert> douggle: 1.3.30 has openal
[16:20] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust, but the question is "how"
[16:20] <trb> the directory denys me permission
[16:20] <bng> reisio: its bbbenji. alternative .iso doesnt see my partitions either:(
[16:20] <morsedl3> ron: also: are you using default or proprietary nvidia drivers?
[16:20] <bahamas> hello. can i ask questions about ubuntu one here?
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo: in unetbootin, choose "harddrive" instead of "USB stick"
[16:20] <ron> morsedl3: afair, proprietary.
[16:20] <bng> yes bahamas
[16:20] <reisio> bahamas: remains to be seen
[16:20] <DX099> hello, all i lost my sudoers file... it's just gone... i tought it was in some backup but it wasn't... is there any way to recreate it ?
[16:21] <djskidd> msg nickserv identify derp
[16:21] <djskidd> CraP
[16:21] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust, but imean, how to make grub to work with it
[16:21] <Guest80177> ?
[16:21] <bahamas> reisio: what does that mean?
[16:21] <Guest52750> i used to be able to back up all my system debs from /var/cache/apt/archives, but they're not all there anymore, just a few... where where they moved to?
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo: are you familiar with unetbootin?
[16:21] <sianhulo> grub support USB because someone helped me with that a year ago or so,but now i have the deafult configuration of grub
[16:21] <freshinstall> ok gnome3 is ok :-) I get it now, just need to avoid "gnome classic" as it's not.
[16:21] <trb> I am trying to add a file to the etc/udev/rules.d location and it is denying me permission how can I do this?
[16:21] <graingert> DX099: do you know if you lost anything else?
[16:21] <reisio> bahamas: just what it means
[16:21] <nixmaniack> which connection manager is default in 11.10? I have messed up with ConnMan and Network Manager. how do I restore it?
[16:22] <reisio> trb: sudo
[16:22] <bng> trb: do it as sudo
[16:22] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust, i've used it, but just with BIOS not for booting by GRUB
[16:22] <graingert> DX099: it's safest to copy your homedir and then re-install
[16:22] <morsedl3> ron: you may want to remove those and just try the non-proprietary drivers, just to see if that works.  if so, then simply 'apt-get purge'-ing the properietary drivers and then re-installing that might work (at least, that worked for me when going from lucid to natty)
[16:22] <trb> how does that work
[16:22] <djskidd> ah I need an offtopic chat
[16:22] <bng> anyone know why ubuntu installer and gparted dont see my partitions while fdisk does?
[16:22] <djskidd> interested anyone?
[16:22] <neo84> :'(
[16:22] <trb> what would be the terminal command
[16:22] <djskidd> OW
[16:22] <DX099> graingert, i wanted to avoid this...
[16:22] <trb> sudo ?
[16:23] <dr_willis> trb:  you gain root rights via sudo. correct
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo: choose the live iso you want, then below: choose harddisk, it's self explanatory
[16:23] <bng> sudo mv file /etc/udev/rules.d
[16:23] <bng> trb
[16:23] <freshinstall> bng, that's why it's good to use "try" instead of "install" so you can call up a shell and look at those things....
[16:23] <toumbo> Excelent work on oneiric!!!!! :D
[16:23] <DX099> graingert, thx anyway
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo: then go back to grub and choose unetbootin
[16:23] <Mattsyco> Hey all, how do I unpack/run a .run file?
[16:23] <dr_willis> Mattsyco:  what is it exactly?
[16:23] <nixmaniack> which connection manager is default in 11.10? I have messed up with ConnMan and Network Manger. how do I restore it
[16:23] <graingert> DX099: if you lost sudoers you probably lost a lot more
[16:24] <DX099> :/
[16:24] <bng> freshinstall: youre talking about booting into live cd? thats how i figured out fdisk sees the partitions, but im not sure how to diagnose the problem
[16:24] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust,  YES, but i want to boot by grub not by BIOS, my BIOS doesn't support it(and it's supposed to)so, i want to boot by GRUb that I know works
[16:24] <trb> I'm sorry I have colied some sudo commands off the internet and they have worked but I don't know how to move the file from my home trb directory to the etc/udev'rules.d directory  what would be the sudo command?
[16:24] <ron> morsedl3: can you help me a bit more with the apt-get purge command? I'm not sure how to find the nvidia drivers in order to purge those.
[16:24] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust, the problem is that if i don't change nothing, grub wont know unetbootin is in there
[16:24] <bng> freshinstall: ive tried the alternative .iso as well. doesnt recognize either
[16:24] <Mattsyco> one of the games from the humblebundle dr_willis
[16:24] <edbian> sianhulo: the computer turns on, bios takes over, bios hands things over to grub, grub hands things over to the OS.  YOu cannot skip the bios with efi or something
[16:24] <freshinstall> bng, yep, that's a weird one.  if you don't care then just use "entire disk" otherwise *proceed very carefully* :-)
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> sianhulo: that's how i do by grub, can't say about BIOS, maybe someone else can help :)
[16:25] <dr_willis> Mattsyco:  chmod +x foo.run, then ./foo.run
[16:25] <bng> freshinstall: thats the thing:( i have two partitions i do not want to lose
[16:25] <ron> morsedl3: I also checked the .xsession-error file, and I don't think the log is related to the problem. it's last entry is from about an hour ago and since I've tried logging in a few times.
[16:25] <morsedl3> ron: worst case, you may just have to backup your homedir, create a new account, and then moving everything over to the new account *except* your "dotfiles" (i.e., /home/ron/.*').  then, manually move over your dotfiles, excluding .gconf* .gnome* .cache* and the like -- anything that seems system / desktop related.  i had to do this from lucid to natty -- it was a bit of a pain, but it was actually good to clean out some of the "c
[16:25] <morsedl3> rud" in my dotfiles.
[16:25] <neo84>  After upgreading to 11.10, my launcher stop comming and all the icons gone from start pane. also al+f2 i s  not working . your help will be much appriciated
[16:25] <sianhulo> MonkeyDust, I mean to use GRUB, however GRUB wont know it is unetbootin itself
[16:25] <Guest52750> where does it save all the deb files? used to be in /var/cache/apt/archives, but that only contains a few.
[16:25] <TRider> ubuntu only runs on live cd. I install on a hard disk with no partitions and get error 22 in the grab process.Can anyone help ? It was working 2 days ago. plz help
[16:26] <Mattsyco> dr_willis: thanks, I will give it a try
[16:26] <sianhulo> at least mine
[16:26] <ron> morsedl3: yeah, I'd rather do that only as a last resort ;)
[16:26] <B0g4r7> Ah yes, I got the 11.10 upgrade notice thing today.  So I had one question about 11.10: Is it still possible to turn off Unity in 11.10?
[16:26] <morsedl3> ron: k.  it sounds like you there's some leftover config issue.  first, though, you might try 'rm -rf /home/ron/.cache' (while not logged into X) -- that's helped me in the past, too.
[16:26] <saml> hey, i upgraded to 11.10 ..  can I disable gnome and use openbox only?
[16:26] <dr_willis> saml:  yes
[16:26] <trb> the book I have is junk and cant explain evn the simplist command of moving a directory
[16:26] <edbian> B0g4r7: yes, but gnome2 is gone
[16:26] <djskidd> Anyone know how I can get VirtualDJ to work under ubuntu? (ahem, http://www.virtualdj.com)
[16:26] <edbian> saml: sure
[16:27] <saml> how can i do so? i modified /etc/init/gdm.conf   to stop on runlevel 2
[16:27] <dr_willis> !cli | trb
[16:27] <saml> my idea is to boot to console.. and execute startx  and put openbox on .xinitrc
[16:27] <dr_willis> saml:  ubuntu dosent use runlevels...
[16:27] <Squeeb> saml: /etc/inittab ?
[16:27] <Squeeb> oh
[16:27] <Squeeb> disregard
[16:27] <B0g4r7> edbian, er, so if I disable Unity I'll be left with...what then?  Just an X Server?
[16:27] <dr_willis> !text | saml
[16:27] <Guest52750> saml, disbale, or uninstall? it would be rather easy to just install openbox, and then log out, and choose openbox in the options on the bottom right.
[16:27] <edbian> saml: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop (and install something else of course)
[16:27] <shaye> i have actavated the brodcom driver in ubuntu 11.10 and still do not have a wireless option ??
[16:27] <morsedl3> ron: to find the packages, just run 'dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia' -- the package names should be in the resulting list
[16:27] <edbian> B0g4r7: gnome3 by default.  But you can install others
[16:27] <Phr3d13> ccsm keeps crashing with segmentation faults, how do i fix it?
[16:28] <saml> Guest52750, choosing Openbox on lightdm does not work..
[16:28] <B0g4r7> edbian, hmm...thanks.  I think I'll install in a VM before blindly upgrading important systems.
[16:28] <saml> i mean.. i can't login with choosing openbox only.. i need to chose Gnome/Openbox
[16:28] <Guest52750> where is the debs saved now? couldnt find it in /var/cache/apt/archives
[16:28] <edbian> B0g4r7: sounds good :)
[16:28] <Guest52750> saml, does it just not show you the option, or?
[16:28] <edbian> Guest52750: I think a system upgrade it clears that cache
[16:28] <dr_willis> saml:  you could make a simple openbox session  openbox.desktop file for the xdm to use
[16:28] <edbian> Guest52750: so they'll accumulate as you install things again
[16:28] <Guest52750> edbian, no system upgrade performed.
[16:29] <saml> dr_willis, how can i do that? just touch the file?
[16:29] <edbian> Guest52750: did you run apt-get clean or aptitude autoclean or something?
[16:29] <freshinstall> later..........
[16:29] <nemo> Hey. Quick question.  Does Ubuntu 11.10 include GTK Broadway?
[16:29] <Guest52750> edbian, no.
[16:29] <dr_willis> saml:  look at the gnome.desktop file for an example
[16:29] <o_> salm: try "openbox --replace" in terminal
[16:29] <cousin_luigi> hello
[16:29] <saml> and gvim is funky
[16:29] <cousin_luigi> Is there a way to avoid UFW polluting the syslog?
[16:29] <donofrio> ***B43*** 11.10 - does anyone have a working command for the 4306 rev3 card?
[16:29] <edbian> Guest52750: i'm not sure, that's where they go though :)
[16:30] <edbian> donofrio: i have that card, I can get it working
[16:30] <edbian> donofrio: I can not help you right now.  Wanna meet up later?
[16:30] <Mattsyco> ok, have an Error message saying libglade-2.0.so.0: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64      the 0's have dots in them
[16:30] <Guest52750> edbian, thanks for the info. this used to work on the other verisons, i.e. 10.04 and 10.10. i wish it would not clean things out, my net speed is sloooow.
[16:30] <saml> where is gnome.desktop located?
[16:30] <zastaph> can someone help me to get Ubuntu working after I upgraded 11.04 to 11.10 in virtualbox? its just stuck at the Ubuntu logo when starting up now, no disk activity after a while
[16:30] <edbian> Guest52750: maybe the disk if ull?
[16:30] <dr_willis> saml:  try 'locate gnome.desktop'
[16:31] <djalone> ne
[16:31] <donofrio> edbian, PM me how to get it working
[16:31] <edbian> donofrio: I do not have time.  I'm leaving in 1 minute.  I can help you later.
[16:31] <Guest52750> edbian, no, it's a 320gb disk with 8gb used. LOL. thanks for the help though... over and out from hylian :)
[16:31] <dr_willis> bbl
[16:31] <donofrio> any urls before you go?
[16:31] <morsedl3> ron: removing .gconfd/saved_state has also helped me clear up such problems in the past...
[16:31] <ron> morsedl3: okay, the .cache deletion didn't help. purging the nvidia drivers.
[16:31] <sianhulo> people, i have a hp pavilion laptop, wifi doesn't work(neither ethernet)
[16:32] <edbian> donofrio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:32] <ron> morsedl3: btw, I really appreciate the help.
[16:32] <edbian> Guest53835: I know you! :D  cya
[16:32] <foo> If you saw these errors, and then your system froze, what would you do? http://pastebin.com/eft4M7jq
[16:33] <rafal> witam
[16:33] <rafal> zainstalowałem sobie xubuntu 11.10
[16:33] <oCean> !pl | rafal
[16:34] <frewsxcv> is there any reason why ubuntu hasn't updated their releases in their rsync mirror?
[16:35] <Phr3d13> ccsm keeps crashing with segmentation faults - http://pastie.org/2695736
[16:35] <IppatsuMan> Hi all. I am using the Broadcom STA driver for my BCM4312. I moved from US to Europe, and my card does not recognize WiFi network on channels 12 and 13. Apparently, you can switch to Europe regulations and access those channels by running "iw reg set DE" (for Germany), but the Broadcom driver does not recognize it. Any hint on how to fix this?
[16:35] <douggle> that did it with the wine swap
[16:35] <douggle> :)
[16:35] <ron> morsedl3: okay, I may have messed up :p
[16:35] <[]Tsukasa[]> Samba: how can i configure the share so windows doesn't need any user account to login with. in smb.conf I have masks set to 777 and guest ok
[16:36] <TRider> ubuntu only runs on live cd. I install on a hard disk with no partitions and get error 22 in the grab process.Can anyone help ? It was working 2 days ago. plz help
[16:36] <morsedl3> ron: sure thing.  i have to log off irc now, but if you get really stuck, shoot an email to dm at dougmorse dot org and i'll see if can't help further.  btw, the "key" dotfiles you might want to move at of the way (e.g., move .gconf .gconf-keepme) are .gconf, .gconfd, .cache, .config, .dbus, .compiz*, .gnome*, and perhaps .X* and .xinitrc (if you have one).
[16:36] <morsedl3> ron: uh-oh.  what's up?
[16:36] <sgs2_usr> how do i configure the lcd brightness in ubuntu 11.10?
[16:37] <Phr3d13> ccsm keeps crashing with segmentation faults - http://pastie.org/2695736
[16:37] <ron> morsedl3: I may have purged too much. my tv now shows weird lines :p I can still ssh to the machine. reinstalling the drivers now, but it'll take a while. thanks for the help, I'll follow your suggestions.
[16:38] <genii-around> []Tsukasa[]: You probably also want then something like map to guest = bad user
[16:38] <trb_> I'm sorry I got disconnected from xchat please help
[16:38] <trb_> I am trying to add a file to the etc/udev/rules.d location and it is denying me permission how can I do this
[16:38] <llutz> trb_: sudo cp file /etc/udev/rules.d/
[16:39] <Phr3d13> trb_, gksudo gedit etc/udev/rules.d
[16:39] <llutz> trb_: sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/yourrules.rules
[16:39] <dr_willis> trb_:  you allready have the file made?
[16:39] <bng> pico > nano
[16:39] <morsedl3> ron: k.  yeah, i should have mentioned that -- sometimes removing drivers causes all of X11 (xorg stuff) to be removed, which is not what you want.  you can recover from that, though, simply by reinstalling xorg, xserver-xorg, xserver-org-core and the like.
[16:39] <favila> anyway to disable lock screen after suspend  using Ocelot
[16:40] <trb_> The file is simply this... File name yes the file is in the home trb directory
[16:40] <c_smith> my sound is not coming out, even on login, I looked in the hardware tab of the sound app, there were no devices listed, can someone help me here? I do have an intel sound device in this laptop.
[16:40] <conntrack> Give me a cup and string anyday
[16:40] <trb_> The file is simply this... File name 98-bispirate.rules  and contains this statement... SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{serial}=="A5005D8K", GROUP="users", MODE="0660", SYMLINK+="buspirate"
[16:40] <Tuttingham> can i join any normal irc channel?
[16:40] <morsedl3> ron: most my machines are ati right now (ugh -- i don't recommend; if find nvidia to be much better w. linux support).
[16:40] <reisio> Tuttingham: why couldn't you
[16:40] <llutz> trb_: sudo cp  ~trb/98-bispirate.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/
[16:40] <c_smith> Tuttingham, not the #ubuntu-release-party channel.
[16:40] <Tuttingham> nope
[16:40] <dr_willis> Hmm. The installer is a bit missleading i notice.. Im installing ubuntu to a seperate hard drive. and its saying 'replace windows 7 with ubuntu'  it shouldent be touching windows 7 at all. :) its on the OTHER hard drive
[16:40] <Tuttingham> ahh
[16:40] <sgs2_usr> my HP EliteBook 8540w laptop lcd brightness control does not remember the setting, how do I fix that?
[16:40] <saml> which log do I look at?  I have /usr/share/xsessions/openbox.desktop   but when I select Openbox.. It comes back to login screen
[16:41] <saml> I want to use openbox only.
[16:41] <trb_> let me give it a try...
[16:41] <reisio> dr_willis: sep-a-rate
[16:41] <saml> I did apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[16:41] <ron> morsedl3: hmm, any idea where I can get an exact list of xorg stuff to install?
[16:41] <Efrin> hmm...
[16:41] <c_smith> did I phrase my question right?
[16:42] <dr_willis> reisio:  i-dont-care :)
[16:42] <c_smith> tried to give all the information I had.
[16:42] <djskidd> How can I get my PGP key?
[16:42] <reisio> dr_willis: I noticed
[16:42] <djskidd> Ahem, OpenPGP key?
[16:42] <morsedl3> ron: i would think installing xorg and xserver-xorg would trigger all the necessary dependencies as well.
[16:42] <sgs2_usr> is this the right channle to ask specific question on Ubuntu 11.10?
[16:42] <c_smith> djskidd, do you mean OpenPGP key or GPG key?
[16:43] <TRider> ubuntu only runs on live cd. I install on a hard disk with no partitions and get error 22 in the grab process.Can anyone help ? It was working 2 days ago. plz help
[16:43] <Efrin> I have ubuntu 11.10 a try and really I cant work with unity and gnome3. Are there any ubuntu-like distros with simple GUI (gnome 2) or something?
[16:43] <Efrin> i gave*
[16:43] <saml> with 11.10,  can I go back to classic gnome?
[16:43] <snikker> just a curiosity, why Ubuntu was released yesterday, instead of the 20 of October as scheduled?
[16:43] <ron> morsedl3: they're already installed :-/
[16:43] <saml> i don't want unity
[16:43] <dr_willis> TRider:  the phrase 'install on a hard drive with no parittions' seems.. weird.. if you are installint to a hard drive. you make partitions to install to...
[16:43] <djskidd> Launchpad says OpenPGP, but says to use a GPG command
[16:43] <morsedl3> ron: you might also need to specifically ask for the ubuntu-disto nvidia driver, which i would think is xserver-xorg-video-nvidia
[16:43] <ron> morsedl3: I really don't want to keep you waiting.
[16:43] <Efrin> saml: it has classic gnome - but "non editable"
[16:44] <c_smith> snikker, yesterday was  the .scheduled day
[16:44] <Pici> djskidd: they're interchangable.
[16:44] <dr_willis> saml:  theres other desktops you can install, or tweak and roll your own
[16:44] <saml> i don't understand.. i want compiz, unity  out.
[16:44] <djskidd> Okay, so how do I get it so I can sign the Ubuntu code of conduct so I can be op?
[16:44] <morsedl3> ron: no worries.  i'll stay online, i just might be a bit slower to respond.  i don't have to be anywhere, just need to focus on writing... :)
[16:44] <Tuttingham> so is there a way to join channels using this client or not?
[16:44] <snikker> c_smith: but the scheduled day, wasn't the 20 or the 23? or i'm wrong?
[16:44] <ron> morsedl3: a book? :)
[16:45] <c_smith> heh, "I can fix anything, i have root!" should be "I can break everything, I have root!"
[16:45] <jdoe> I'm trying to install 11.10 on a machine with an nvidia graphics card, but as soon as hit "install ubuntu" from the cd, the screen goes blank and the system goes unresponsive. The nomodeset option doesn't seem to help. Any suggestions?
[16:45] <morsedl3> ron: dissertation work.
[16:45] <ron> morsedl3: even worse! good luck :)
[16:45] <morsedl3> ron: :)
[16:45] <c_smith> snikker, no, 20th and 23rd are both wrong, it was always set for the 13th.
[16:45] <dr_willis> saml:  last i noticed. when i isntalled openbox, or fluxbox, or icewm, or others.. they added a entry to the login GDM/whateverDM menus. If they dont. You can make your own. Or make a .xinitrc or .xsession file and just go to the console and use 'startx' to run exactly what you want
[16:45] <TRider> ok probably you re right. I install it using the standard process and I get error 22. Could it be a HD problem ?
[16:45] <trb_> I am getting this statement?
[16:45] <trb_> trb@trb-desktop:~$ sudo cp  ~trb/98-bispirate.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/
[16:45] <trb_> cp: cannot stat `/home/trb/98-bispirate.rules': No such file or director
[16:45] <dr_willis> trb_:  you need a ~/ for the path...
[16:45] <snikker> c_smith: ok, i remember bad
[16:45] <llutz> trb_: then its not in trbs home
[16:45] <saml> dr_willis, i have openbox entry.. when i select.. it goes back to login screen
[16:45] <dr_willis> trb_:  or dont use the full path.
[16:46] <dr_willis> saml:  file a bug.
[16:46] <c_smith> is there anyone here who can help me with, *ahem* my lack of audio?
[16:46] <dr_willis> saml:  try  the .xsession/startx method see if theres any errors
[16:46] <trb_> let me fool with it
[16:46] <ron> morsedl3: can't find the package you suggested. trying o look around.
[16:46] <conntrack> haha
[16:46] <morsedl3> ron: have u installed apt-cache?
[16:46] <Timo__> hi. is it possible to make an persistent home? my laptop cant boot from usb :(
[16:46] <saml> dr_willis, how do I get to the prompt?  grub  text kernel option is the only way?
[16:46] <Tuttingham> can anyone tell me?
[16:46] <ron> morsedl3: of course!
[16:46] <morsedl3> ron: 'apt-cache search nvidia' should help
[16:47] <ron> morsedl3: what is it? :p
[16:47] <dr_willis> saml:  thats the easiest way
[16:47] <dr_willis> !text | saml
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[16:47] <saml> thanks
[16:47] <ron> morsedl3: I see.. nice.
[16:47] <donofrio> b43 - 4306 rev 3 11.10 need help getting it working tinyurl.com/b43-not-working-in-11-10
[16:47] <ron> morsedl3: you silly you. it was xserver-xorg-video-nv
[16:47] <kallisti5> is it just me or does ubuntu not just "work" on almost any machines like it used to?  I have HP workstations, Dell desktops, Dell laptops, Acer netbooks, Radeon HD 4xxx, Intel extreme, Nvidia... and *NONE* of them just work. Unity graphics corruption, Gnome 3 graphics corruption, lots of failing
[16:47] <c_smith> heh, I came across that trying to figure it out myself, let me pastebin the contents.
[16:47] <Jukken> I just downloaded Ubuntu 11.10....when the desktop and install-thingy comes up - all the colors are totally out of whack...can't even read what the installation says... any ideas?
[16:48] <ron> morsedl3: which apparently is already installed :-/
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: the command makes a link if you select to upload to the server ;)
[16:48] <dr_willis> Jukken:  your video card/chipset is what?
[16:48] <morsedl3> ron: yep.  apt-cache and apt-file are very helpful.  apt-file lets you search in reverse, e.g., if i want to know what package installed /etc/motd, i run 'apt-file search /etc/motd'
[16:48] <c_smith> cool, I'll do that,
[16:48] <reisio> Jukken: nvidia? :)
[16:48] <ron> morsedl3: nice. I'll try to remember that.
[16:48] <saml> what file do I edit for grub?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 is too long
[16:48] <Jukken> Geforce 6800 ultra  ...workes fine in anything else
[16:48] <broxi> hello, im looking for help installing 11.10 please
[16:49] <f0x09> is there any sftp client for xubuntu like that one for ubuntu connect to server
[16:49] <reisio> saml: read the bit about 40_custom
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> saml: what do you want to achieve?
[16:49] <harryrichardson> broxi: what kind of help?
[16:49] <saml> reisio, thanks
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> f0x09: filezilla will do it
[16:49] <c_smith> my ALSA info: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=9317914ac35303a318344856677c1f22217cf00c
[16:49] <saml> ActionParsnip, text boot
[16:49] <morsedl3> ron: so, are you at least back to where you re: at least logging in under a new account works?
[16:49] <trb_> YES YES!!!  after I corrected some spellin... sudo cp  ~trb/98-buspirate.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/
[16:49] <dr_willis> saml:  at the grub menu, you edit a line, and do like it said.. append 'text' to the end of the kernel line.. 'quiet nosplash text'
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> saml: add the boot option:   text
[16:49] <ron> morsedl3: nope. still no display.
[16:49] <dr_willis> saml:  or if you want it perment you eidt the grub config files in /etc/default like the docs say
[16:49] <usertwo> i installed thunar as an alternative to nautilus and its also extremely slow, so i guess i have some other issues with file management. anyone any ideas? i tried most of the online tricks for nautilus but no effect
[16:49] <morsedl3> ron: hmm... but that had been working, correct?
[16:49] <tutt_> i'm using a diffrent client now
[16:49] <trb_> Now hopefully the file simply this... File name 98-bispirate.rules  and contains this statement... SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{serial}=="A5005D8K", GROUP="users", MODE="0660", SYMLINK+="buspirate
[16:49] <reisio> usertwo: tricks?
[16:50] <broxi> im having problems with what seems to be my nvidia card, wont boot to login
[16:50] <trb_> Will work
[16:50] <morsedl3> ron: i.e., with a new account (not your existing one)
[16:50] <ron> morsedl3: before the nvidia purging havoc? sure.
[16:50] <c_smith> funny thing is, my audio card doesn't appear in my sound menu
[16:50] <usertwo> everything else works well but file management hangs
[16:50] <llutz> trb_: you should learn to use bash-completion (tab completion)
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: ok and what is the issue?
[16:50] <harryrichardson> broxi: are you getting any errors, do you get booted into a command line, do you get a kernel panic?
[16:50] <ron> morsedl3: sec, I have a hunch.
[16:50] <trb_> Yess Yess now that I corrected some spellinng the file is showing up in that dir
[16:50] <morsedl3> ron: k.
[16:51] <dr_willis> !tab | trb_
[16:51] <broxi> no harryrichardson it stops at checking battery state
[16:51] <dr_willis> "_
[16:51] <trb_> sudo cp  ~trb/98-buspirate.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/
[16:51] <tutt_> ANYONE KNOW WHY IT SAYS I'M OWNER OF A CHANNEL I KNOW ISINT MINE??
[16:51] <tutt_> oops caps
[16:51] <dr_willis> trb_:  thats wrong... its NOT ~trb   it could be ~/trb/
[16:51] <sauroman_> is there any pe files explorer for windows?
[16:51] <ron> morsedl3: okay, rebooting. the machine is also my irc bouncer, so I'll be d/c.
[16:51] <llutz> dr_willis: you're wrong
[16:51] <llutz> dr_willis: ~trb or /home/trb
[16:51] <morsedl3> ron: k.
[16:51] <dr_willis> yea 2 more typos make a wronger one :)
[16:51] <douggle> i guess it was just an issue with that particular build of wine because i didnt even have to do the open al thing
[16:51] <dr_willis> i corrected him earlier..
[16:52] <c_smith> ActionParsnip, simple: I have no audio even in login, and my audio device doesn't appear.
[16:52] <trb_> it was buspirate not bispirate  stupid syntax
[16:52] <Jukken> Anyone have any ideas what to do...can hardly see anything at the installation...it's all messed up
[16:52] <dr_willis> i never use the ~ shortcut :) i find it causes to many issues
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: add:    options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=1      to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[16:52] <c_smith> k
[16:52] <maxagaz> hi
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: could use $HOME instead;)
[16:52] <llutz> dr_willis: i always use ~ because you don't have to fiddle with pathes :)
[16:52] <tutt_> i'm begging anyone to tell me how to join channels
[16:52] <foo> If you saw these errors, and then your system froze, what would you do? http://pastebin.com/eft4M7jq
[16:53] <dr_willis> he dosent need ~ or /home/whatever  he seems to be in trb :)
[16:53] <TRider> ubuntu only runs on live cd. I install on a hard disk  and get error 22 in the grab process.Can anyone help ? 2 days ago I got a kernel panic message and had to reinstall. can anyone plw help ?
[16:53] <trb_> I hope the file does what its supposed to do... The file is simply this... File name 98-buspirate.rules  and contains thisuu statement... SUBSYSTEM=="tty", ATTRS{serial}=="A5005D8K", GROUP="users", MODE="0660", SYMLINK+="buspirate"
[16:53] <llutz> trb_: sudo udevadm control --reload-rules               and test it
[16:53] <tutt_> trb_  can ubuntu linux get java?
[16:54] <wam> My quodlibet doesn't recognize the forward/backward multimedia keys of my keyboard anymore in oneiric. quodlibed worked in natty with it's dbus plugin. Is there anything I can do?
[16:54] <trb_> I'm an idiot I know but thanks everyone
[16:54] <lauratika> im using ubuntu 10.10 with gnome clasic but cant find system menu any ideas where is it?
[16:54] <morsedl3> tutt_: see http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[16:54] <c_smith> k, brb, gonna test to see if that fix works
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> TRider: try booting to the liveCD and reinstall grub from there
[16:54] <natschil> Hello... my download speeds for updating to oneiric seem very slow, and im thinking they might be for everybody.... so just in case you guys here don't know about it, I'd like to point y'all to apt-p2p :D
[16:54] <tutt_> tanks
[16:54] <dr_willis> morsedl3:  that url seems to have answers to 90% of the questions ive seen asked today.
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> TRider: http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omgubuntu.co.uk%2F2011%2F09%2Flive-usb-sticking-grub-2-video%2F&ei=XGmYTqlsyMPxA5qDzLgF&usg=AFQjCNHyQcVGbvSKW1itkyQ4_Amoz20c_Q
[16:55] <morsedl3> dr_willis: yup :)
[16:55] <lauratika> please anyone?
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> natschil: I use apt-fast here, works a treat
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> !panels | lauratika
[16:55] <natschil> ActionParsnip: ooh, didn't know about that. let me google it.
[16:55] <TRider> ok I will try that. Thanks
[16:56] <trb_> yes I must reload rules ok it took the statement sudo udevadm control --reload-rules
[16:56] <trb_> now how do I check
[16:56] <neriko> Good morning/afternoon everyone. I upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 yesterday, and now I have no wireless.  Will someone help me, please?
[16:56] <chiara> hi i have problem with hdmi audio with nvidia card
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> neriko: can you pastebin the output of:
[16:56] <chiara> please help ...
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> neriko: sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; sudo rfkill list
[16:56] <c_smith> okay, the fix did nothing.
[16:57] <c_smith> still no sound.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: did you reboot to test?
[16:57] <lauratika> ubottu: didnt work
[16:57] <c_smith> yep
[16:57] <dr_willis> lauratika:  ubottu  is the channel robot. :)
[16:57] <c_smith> and furthermore: no sound on even bootup.
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: ok you are basically looking for lines like that to add to the file, relating to your system model
[16:57] <lauratika> dr_willis... sorry
[16:58] <dr_willis> lauratika:  apologize to the robot? :)
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: as the option does nothing, I suggest you remove it
[16:58] <lauratika> sorry buddy bot
[16:58] <natschil> ActionParsnip: apt-p2p seems better as the more people use it, the faster it gets.
[16:58] <lauratika> yes
[16:58] <lauratika> im polite
[16:58] <neriko> Silly question, how do I pastebin?
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> natschil: I see
[16:58] <lauratika>  :D
[16:58] <dr_willis> neriko:  use the pastebinit command is one way
[16:58] <lauratika> just kiddiing
[16:58] <chiara> hi i have problem with hdmi audio with nvidia card - i have 11.10  - descktop pc
[16:58] <lauratika> any help any one?
[16:58] <ron> morsedl3: my apt-get download speed is horrible. trying to switch mirrors.
[16:58] <usertwo> now thunar hangs too
[16:59] <natschil> ron: try apt-p2p :)
[16:59] <dr_willis> lauratika:  theres some config/system menu under the top right power button.. i recall.
[16:59] <c_smith> bleh, can't remember the file I edited.... hate it when this happens.
[16:59] <natschil> ron: and then my download speed might speed up too :)
[16:59] <ron> natschil: what's that? :)
[16:59]  * ron laughs
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: try:   options snd-hda-intel model=hp-m4 enable_msi=1       reboot to apply, then System>Preferences>Sound and change first 4 options to ALSA ← couldn't do this part there was no first 4 options
[16:59] <natschil> ron: it's kind of like bittorrent for apt-get I think
[16:59] <c_smith> thanks
[16:59] <ron> natschil: the name kinda suggests it, yeah.
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: use the up cursor to review old commands
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> natschil: will try it too
[16:59] <morsedl3> ron: yeah, it seems ubuntu servers are more swapped 2day then yesterday.  you may want to try apt-p2p -- folks here are talking about it being faster
[17:00] <morsedl3> ron: typo: "swamped"
[17:00] <B0g4r7> chiara, I just got HDMI audio to work the other day myself, using Nvidia Ion.  For me, the "magic command" from this page did the trick: http://www.minimyth.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2699
[17:00] <jlebar> I opened up the compiz manager, clicked "preferences", and my shell crashed.  Even after a restart, the "Ubuntu" shell doesn't work (Ubuntu 2D does).  How do I recover from this?
[17:00] <Gotisch> can i switch the panel to the right side of the screen? it doesnt seem to be affected by the reveal mode seetting in compiz config
[17:00] <c_smith> knew there had to be a function in Terminal to do that, just didn't know how.
[17:00] <lauratika> how do i access the shortcut and change the theme in gnome classic if there is no system menu?
[17:01] <ron> less than 10k/s :-/
[17:01] <chiara> B0g4r7 i'm going to read
[17:01] <hagus> I had ubuntu 10.4 and was in the midst of an internet upgrade to 10.10 when the thing stopped at configuring cups.  I switched off and now it stops before I get to the sign-in dialog.
[17:01] <hagus> Any hint as to what I should do now?
[17:01] <dr_willis> lauratika:  you can access the gnome-settings tool via the unity panel i belive..  or command line. but i dont recall its exact name.. and there is some setting menu on the menu you get when you click the top right power button icon i recall.
[17:01] <hagus> I am using my son's machine to connect
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: now you do
[17:01] <qols> who is the american food-person with a biiiig round white smiling head and a top hat
[17:01] <usertwo> how do i kill thunar. it wont quit from the side menu
[17:02] <dr_willis> usertwo:  killall thunar      perhaps.
[17:02] <Timo__> is it possible to install and/or save preferences on an usb stick?
[17:02] <maulana> am need make some radio online on my ubuntu can i ?
[17:02] <hagus> Have I jiggered my setup completely?  I have a wubi installation.
[17:02] <dr_willis> Timo__:  you can do a full install to a usb, or a live-setup+persistant save file.
[17:02] <chiara> B0g4r7  i must get you the result?
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> maulana: shotcast  maybe
[17:02] <Reaper> id burn 11.10 to a disk and do a fresh install hagus
[17:02] <lauratika> dr_willis you are rigth under the power button but cant find shorcuts or themes
[17:02] <hagus> Will I lose my data, Reaper?
[17:02] <Reaper> yes
[17:03] <Timo__> dr_willis, laptop is from 2006...no usb install :(
[17:03] <dr_willis> lauratika:  this is 11.10 or 11.04 ?
[17:03] <c_smith> rebooting to test, brb with results
[17:03] <lauratika> 11.10
[17:03] <ron> natschil: geh, not sure how to use it.
[17:03] <hagus> grr :( nm
[17:03] <lauratika> brand new oneric
[17:03] <maulana> ActionParsnip, how are you bro... shotcast like winnap paket ?
[17:03] <usertwo> killall thunar says no process found. ps lists only bash and ps
[17:03] <sgs2_usr> how do i enable encryption to my home folder if during installation i have not selected it?
[17:03] <dr_willis> lauratika:  then there is none. :) you use that gnome-tweak tool in the repos.. see the webupd8 blog url for tweaking 11.10
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> maulana: its a way to broadcast stuff is all I know, check it out, see if its what you need
[17:03] <dr_willis> see http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[17:03] <chiara> B0g4r7  i don't have this sound card
[17:03] <Reaper> it did the same to my laptop but I have most of my stuff in ubuntu one so it didnt matter
[17:04] <hagus> Thanks, Reaper, though it was not what I hoped you would say :)
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: can you give the output of:  ps -ef | grep -i thun | grep -v grep
[17:04] <Reaper> yeah, it does suck.
[17:04] <neriko> ActionParsnip, thanks for the assist. the paste addy is http://pastebin.com/cFhbazfA
[17:04] <Reaper> but hang out here maby someone else has a better idea
[17:04] <ron> natschil: does it automagically affect apt-get?
[17:04] <lauratika> hmmmm thanx
[17:04] <Dougie187> Has anyone linked against libgfortran3 in 11.10?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> neriko: so your issue is with the ethernet?
[17:05] <neriko> No, the wireless. I have my ethernet cable connected so I can access xchat
[17:05] <maulana> ActionParsnip, can i used my desktop ubuntu :) that used for school brotha
[17:05] <neriko> My wireless won't even show up
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> neriko: seems to not be detected? If you run:  dmesg | less    do you see the device mentioned?
[17:06] <mr_daniel> Want to download new Ubuntu 11.04. Is there any reason why the download recommends the 32-Bit version instead of the 64-Bit version? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[17:06] <hagus> My upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 crashed.  Is there a way of completing the upgrade short of making a new installation of 10.10?
[17:06] <morsedl3> for what it's worth: i diagnosed why software-center wasn't working for me.  somehow the upgrade from natty to oneiric messed up the permissions on /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/ and /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/multiarch.  once corrected (mode 755 and 644, respectively), software-center stopped getting stuck in a loop with a repair message and i could again use it to install packages etc.
[17:06] <trench> mr_daniel: what kind of hardware you got?
[17:06] <dr_willis> mr_daniel:  'idiot proofing' - if you know enogh to know what 64bit is.. and your machine supports it.. id say go for 64bit
[17:06] <natschil> ron: no, you need to install it and then replace http:// with http://localhost:9977/
[17:07] <morsedl3> now am just trying to get WOL to work again. :)
[17:07] <mr_daniel> trench: 64 bit
[17:07] <dr_willis> mr_daniel:  if some one with no idea what 64bit even means.. then well. thats why they reccomend 32bit.
[17:07] <mr_daniel> dr_willis: ok, then I'll stick to 64 bit
[17:07] <TorbenBeta> Hello.
[17:07] <ron> natschil: replace it where?
[17:07] <trench> mr_daniel: then download 64
[17:07] <mr_daniel> ok, I understand,
[17:07] <zastaph> im in the recovery console of ubuntu, how can I debug whats preventing my ubuntu from booting properly (halting at Ubuntu logo) after upgrading to 11.10 ?
[17:07] <natschil> ron: in /etc/apt/sources.list (or I think that's all that you need to do)
[17:07] <ron> natschil: will check it out. thanks.
[17:07] <natschil> ron: gotta go, google it there are usage instructions somewhere
[17:07] <natschil> ron: thanks to you :)
[17:08] <Reaper> Are the desktop themes called that or something else. Like the classic ubuntu, is that called a desktop?
[17:08] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: it gives two numbers, which are probably thunar and empathy (this chat) how do i know which one is thunar?
[17:08] <frigo> hai #ubuntu, i installed 11.10 last night, and now it wont boot, it hangs at "checking battery state"
[17:08] <dr_willis> Reaper:  11.10 uses gnome 3 themes now.
[17:08] <neriko> No. I have a Ralink(?) wireless
[17:08] <Reaper> cool, what are the themes?
[17:08] <dr_willis> frigo:  i saw a posting on that error on the webupd8.org blog site i recall.
[17:08] <neriko> There was a fix for 10.10 with the same issue, but I haven't been able to find one for 11.04 yet
[17:08] <hagus> Did I say 10.04 to 10.10.  I meant 11.04 to 11.10.  I am senile and panicky :)
[17:08] <Reaper> I have the regular and 2d
[17:09] <dr_willis> Reaper:  no idea. theres several out.  not many installed by default. and you need the gnome-tweak tool to enable them
[17:09] <frigo> yeah, i saw fixes for 10.10, but none for 11
[17:09] <dr_willis> tweaking yoru themes and stuff - check 0--->  see http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: can you pastebin the text please
[17:09] <Reaper> k thanx ill check for the tool
[17:09] <c_smith> still nothing. no sound, and no 4 options.
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: shame the java ppa violates the java licensing
[17:10] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  shame oracle has stuck such a ... well.. i dont even start that rant... :)
[17:10] <c_smith> 'tis frustrating me beyond belief.
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: just helping users not violate licensing ;);)
[17:10] <dr_willis> I think orcal has violated the users.. :)
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> c_smith: you'll find other suck options online dude
[17:11] <feisar> hi, I just installed 10.10 on a ppc machine the apt-get install b43-fwcutter but it hasn't sorted out my wifi card as I'm sure previous versions did, can anyone help?
[17:11] <c_smith> cool, I'll try that.
[17:11] <morsedl3> ron: this might help: http://bredsaal.dk/installing-apt-p2p-on-ubuntu  (again, though, i've never used apt-p2p)
[17:11] <ron> morsedl3: *nod*
[17:12] <conntrack> zero
[17:12] <neriko> If it helps, Action, my Wifi button light is stuck on Red
[17:13] <TorbenBeta> Can I still use the classical Desktop, if I upgrade to 11.10?
[17:14] <dr_willis> TorbenBeta:  gnome-shell has some fallback mode.. but its not the old classic desktop - its close i hear
[17:14] <saml> !text
[17:14] <saml> on that page, there's no "text"
[17:14] <saml> i can't search for "text" on that page
[17:14] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/XHaqKzjx
[17:15] <TorbenBeta> dr_willis: I can't use the one I have in 11.04, if I upgrade to 11.10?
[17:15] <dr_willis> TorbenBeta:  no.
[17:15] <melodos> anyone here?
[17:15] <melodos> ll
[17:15] <melodos> lol
[17:15] <kallisti5> melodos: check out #debian for help installing debian
[17:15] <kallisti5> melodos: it's better then ubuntu :D
[17:15] <melodos> kallisti5, why?
[17:16] <taisa> hi there, does anybody know how to install bibus in ubuntu 11.10? Python dependencies are not met, because of following error: bibus: Depends: python (>= 2.7.1-0ubuntu2) but 2.7.2-7ubuntu2 is installed.
[17:16] <kallisti5> melodos: it actually works on a wide range of hardware
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: that's just the ps running, there. There is no thunar running afaik
[17:16] <melodos> kallisti5, i used the alternative command line installation, it's awesome now, could even be faster than debian with xfce so far
[17:16] <kallisti5> melodos: and doesn't have unity
[17:16] <jeroth> Please tell me there is a way to install gnome2 on 11.10?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> taisa: is there a bug reported?
[17:16] <sianhulo> people, i want to add a line to grub2, i want to boot from my usb, what i have to do?
[17:16] <kallisti5> jeroth: gnome classic is gnome 2
[17:16] <reisio> jeroth: doesn't need to be, you can install gnome-shell and gnome-panel
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> jeroth: there is a fork called 'mate'   it may break things but you are free to try. All your own risk if you break stuff
[17:17] <jeroth> awesome :)
[17:17] <hagus> I am able to login at the command line of whatever remains of my 'upgrade' to 11.10.  Is there anything that I could do to save the situation from here?
[17:17] <melodos> kallisti5, i just need to get my ipw3945 and the debian method wont work on ubuntu, probably because of different repos.. how do i add it manually?
[17:17] <taisa> ActionParsnip: yes, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bibus/+bug/849174
[17:17] <sianhulo> somebody knows?
[17:17] <hagus> I used ctr-alt-f4
[17:17] <djskidd> Can you believe you can make your own channel on freenode? It's true! Try /join <yourname>
[17:17] <kallisti5> melodos: no clue. why not go back to debian? :D
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> taisa: then when the bug is closed, it will be installable
[17:17] <andres__> ola
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> djskidd: yes, the server supports channel spawning...
[17:18] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: the thunar window is right in the middle of the screen. i will just try the 'windows trick' (reboot!!!)
[17:18] <melodos> kallisti5, debian only for server usage for now
[17:18] <andres__> hay alguna chica
[17:18] <nemo> Does Ubuntu 11.10 include GTK Broadway?
[17:18] <sgs2_usr> how do i enable encryption to my home folder if during installation i have not selected it?
[17:18] <kallisti5> melodos: ah.  it is a good server os
[17:18] <melodos> kallisti5, the best
[17:18] <melodos> kallisti5, cuz of the stable packages
[17:18] <kallisti5> melodos: i just couldn't take ubuntu gnome 3 / unity crashing on every freaking video card out there :)
[17:19] <hagus> Does the fact that I am able to login using ctrl-alt-f4 signify that I might be able to save my upgrade?
[17:19] <melodos> kallisti5, as i said, using a clean command line install with xfce4.. it runs better than debian, kernel is really optimised well
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: then use XFCE, KDE or LXDE.....
[17:19] <kallisti5> melodos: xfce4 is pretty good
[17:19] <jazzg4> Need a little help  with new  Ubuntu disro  can not install  chrome or picasa at all it seem the package installer has been removed
[17:19] <donofrio> how do I troubleshoot a vpn session?
[17:20] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> hi
[17:20] <peto> hi .. how can i make wallpaper slideshow  ? :)
[17:20] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> i need to speak with ubuntu group contact
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> jazzg4: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser    will give the browser
[17:20] <dr_willis> jazzg4:  install gdebi, or use command line, a .deb file is supposed to open with the software center by default i belive.
[17:20] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: the default desktop shouldn't crash though :)  i have 100's of systems that I have to upgrade that were running ubuntu at work
[17:20] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> an op on #ubuntu-ru is abusing operator powers
[17:20] <sianhulo> how to boot with usb by grub2?someone?
[17:20] <`sudo_kill_1_-9`> it just bans people for nothing
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: install Kubuntu and you will get KDE. Default means nothing
[17:20] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: reall don't feel like installing xfce across them.. so to debian we go
[17:20] <sambros> how do i edit the top and bottom menu bars in ubuntu 11.10 (gnome)?? right-clicking doesn't do anything
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> SudoKing: then advise in #ubuntu-ops
[17:20] <nytek_> peto: there is a slideshow screensaver
[17:20] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: eh. at thay point why not get away from Shuttleworth and his crapbuntu?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: thats sad, change release for the sake of a changable part of the OS.
[17:21] <jazzg4> thnaks
[17:21] <hagus> If I can login using ctrl-alt-f4, is there a chance that I can save my ubuntu 11.10 upgrade?
[17:21] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: i know i sound like a troll.. but i *really* can't stand unity
[17:21] <Stava> So i resized a window with the border-snap feature and the entire window is now like a 2px wide, 20px high border. I can't resize it and restarting the application restore it's size. What should I do?
[17:21] <peto> nytek_: and where can i find it?
[17:21] <dr_willis> hagus:  totally depends on whats broken.
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: don't use it then, you don't have to use unity...
[17:21] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: i *really* tried to like it.. but just too much movement for the sake of movement
[17:21] <hagus> What could I do to see if I can get any further?
[17:22] <ardithoxha> guys I have a  sound problem
[17:22] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: i know.. I'd rather use gnome 3.. but it's even unstable under ubuntu
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: LXDE frontend is largely unchaned in years..
[17:22] <hagus> At the moment, that is all that I have been able to do - is login
[17:22] <hagus> Do not know what to try next
[17:22] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: keep getting strange bleeding colors and stuff
[17:22] <dr_willis> Hmm. I found gnome-3 and gnome-shell worked decently well during beta.
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: you can use gnome apps in KDE you know...
[17:22] <Andy80> how can I know wich package modified my GRUB configuration? Since this morning I've the Debian logo on my GRUB -.- this is not funny since I didn't request it....
[17:22] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: yeah but kde is kinda not my thing :)
[17:22] <dr_willis> bbl
[17:23] <hagus> Any suggestions as to what I might try, dr_willis?
[17:23] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: i'm not running linux to use windows :D
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: or XFCE, or fluxbox, or openbox.Lots to choose from. Gnome is not the only option
[17:23] <Calinou_> hi... updated to 11.10
[17:23] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: yup.  but at that point why not just run debian?
[17:23] <Calinou_> botting stops to a console screen, "Stopping Userspace bootsplash"
[17:23] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: the best part of ubuntu was it just worked
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: i like the ubuntu community, I'm also an ubuntu member
[17:24] <Calinou_> took me HOURS to install 11.10...
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: its always just worked here
[17:24] <Calinou_> a non working 11.10.
[17:24] <kallisti5> Calinou_: thats prob just a slow mirrot
[17:24] <kallisti5> **mirror
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: what doesn't work?
[17:24] <Calinou_> no GUI
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: do you get the login screen?
[17:24] <Calinou_> just a console, nothing writable
[17:24] <hagus> Is there a way in which I can proceed beyond a mere login?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: do you use proprietary video drivers?
[17:25] <Calinou_> no... just "starting/stopping" messages
[17:25] <Calinou_> I don't know? first time I boot 11.10
[17:25] <Calinou_> using nvidia 9600M
[17:25] <ardithoxha> can someone help with my sound problem!
[17:26] <pagan0ne> the min/max/close buttons at the top of my windows have defaulted to the RIGHT like they were pre 10.4, i got used to them being on the LEFT, i have tried changing the settings in gconf-editor under apps>metacity>general   and changed it FROM menu:minimize,maximize,close TO minimize,maximize,close:menu logged out and back in, and their still on the RIGHT, where has this setting moved to?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: but you upgraded from natty, right?
[17:26] <Calinou_> reinstalled
[17:26] <Calinou_> my homd folder is on a external HDD
[17:26] <melodos> anyone knows how the default ubuntu installation picks up the proprietary drivers and downloads them?
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: so a clean install? You may want the boot option:   nouveau.blacklist=1
[17:26] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: I use to use Ubuntu because the package selection was *awesome* and for desktops at work, home, etc it just worked. no hardware issues, fast as hell.  but If i have to work around bugs and tweak the crap out of Ubuntu 11.04+ to get it useable.. it's just a bandaid.  I get to the point of anger using Ubuntu now which makes me feel pretty bummed out.
[17:26] <tetsuo--> hello, im getting this error when updating from 11.04 to 11.10 Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.' main.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/708124/ apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/708125/  << What can i do to fix it?
[17:26] <Calinou_> (currently plugged hdd, made sure to boot to the internal hdd)
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: installing a new DE is hardly tweaking
[17:27] <Calinou_> no GRUB screen - only ubuntu 11.10 installed
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: hold shift at boot
[17:27] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: have you seen the gnome 2 fallback?
[17:27] <Calinou_> ok then...
[17:27] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: it looks empty by default.. no ubuntu polish
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: I don't use gnome much, not done so in years
[17:27] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: ah.
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: too slow
[17:28] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: I may look at KDE again.. but my normal preference is Gnome or xfce
[17:28] <Calinou_> no... still the purple screen, "GRUB loading" appeared at one moment though
[17:28] <neo84>  After upgreading to 11.10, my launcher stop comming and all the icons gone from start pane. also al+f2 i s  not working . your help will be much appriciated
[17:28] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: anyway.. i *really* do hope things get better. I
[17:28] <Calinou_> the console is back. automatic crash report generation failed, everything else is ok
[17:28] <kallisti5> ActionParsnip: 'm not holding my breath though
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> kallisti5: i've use LXDE the last 5/6 years, gone back to my kde roots on this lappy
[17:29] <wildc4rd> Evening all, general consensus for 11.10 for basic 'desktop' use, before I click yes
[17:29] <neo84> Please help,  After upgreading to 11.10, my launcher stop comming and all the icons gone from start pane. also al+f2 i s  not working . your help will be much appriciated
[17:29] <kallisti5> wildc4rd: sucks :P
[17:29] <pagan0ne> wildc4rd, its different, if you dont like change dont click yes
[17:29] <kallisti5> pagan0ne: +1
[17:29] <Calinou_> I guess I will install 11.94
[17:29] <meta-coder> What are the main differences between KDE, Gnome and Xfce?
[17:29] <Calinou_> for nothing. :(
[17:29] <wildc4rd> I didn't like Unity, does that count? lol
[17:29] <sgs2_usr> Calinou_: does this exist??
[17:30] <bamestnik_> Hello, I've an actual TiVo are there any tools I can use to upload/stream content to the TiVo?
[17:30] <Calinou_> 04*
[17:30] <pagan0ne> wildc4rd, it will reinstall unity and uninstall gnome when you upgrade
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> wildc4rd: works fine here
[17:30] <pagan0ne> wildc4rd, and the new gnome you can reinstall in 11.10 is way different than the old gnome, nautilus is different and things just dont work as expected for me
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> meta-coder: different apps by default, different resources used.
[17:30] <Calinou_> what option to use actionparsnip?
[17:30] <Calinou_> grub works!
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: nouveau.blacklist=1
[17:31] <Calinou_> ok
[17:31] <ge0rge04> Hello
[17:31] <pagan0ne> the min/max/close buttons at the top of my windows have defaulted to the RIGHT like they were pre 10.4, i got used to them being on the LEFT, i have tried changing the settings in gconf-editor under apps>metacity>general   and changed it FROM menu:minimize,maximize,close TO minimize,maximize,close:menu logged out and back in, and their still on the RIGHT, where has this setting moved to?
[17:31] <Calinou_> on a new line?
[17:31] <bfig> i'm having trouble with my microphone
[17:31] <bfig> how can i do to test it? my alsamixer is not showing anything
[17:32] <meta-coder> ActionParsnip, What among them is more popular among developers?
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> !details| bfig
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> bfig: sound recorder is in a default install
[17:32] <Calinou_> booting...
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> meta-coder: all, you can also run kde apps in gnome and vice-versa
[17:32] <ge0rge04> What is the difference between  the (version current) and (version current-updates) of the NVIDIA driver that shows up in the additional drivers window?
[17:33] <Calinou_> I used to not blacklist nouveau before. Still does not boot
[17:33] <Calinou_> "stopping Userspace bootsplash"
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Calinou_
[17:33] <rubyplusplus> Anyone know what the google integration does in 11.10?
[17:34] <bfig> sorry for the vague question. I'm running 11.04, i run alsamixer from the console and instead of volume bars i get a -00- S/PIDF and no way to see the volume bars
[17:34] <Calinou_> does nomodeset allow me to use 3d games...?
[17:34] <rubyplusplus> I kind of thought it would set up the empathy/thunderbird/calendar type sync, but I had to set all of that up manually.
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: you'll just need it til you can get the proprietary driver installed
[17:36] <Calinou_> ok
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Calinou_: do you have web access in network root console?
[17:36] <douggle> is there a tool to convert from wubi to a physical install
[17:36] <Calinou_> dunno
[17:36] <Calinou_> "previousclinux versions" in grub
[17:36] <Calinou_> the 11.10 uses linux 3.0
[17:37] <bamestnik_> meta-coder: KDE, IMHO, has a lot more color then Gnome.  Xfce is more like a traditional Unix GUI.
[17:37] <Calinou_> does using a older linux fixes that?
[17:37] <neo84>  I realy hatet 11.10
[17:37] <ge0rge04> can somebody answer my question too, please?
[17:37] <neo84> it messed up with my system
[17:37] <elluz> ubuntu 11.10 travando muito...
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> douggle: http://askubuntu.com/questions/635/how-to-convert-wubi-install-into-regular-install    I'd just reinstall
[17:38] <eolo999> hi, i use xmonad as wm and it seems that the package xmonad-contrib is not present even if it is mentioned on packages.ubuntu.com? anyone knows something about it?
[17:39] <elluz> alguém fala Português-BR???
[17:39] <pagan0ne> found it!, can anyone tell me why the setting in gconf-edit for the position of the min/max/close buttons was moved from 'apps.metacity.general'  to 'desktop.gnome.shell.windows'? the button_layout?
[17:39] <Pici> !br | elluz
[17:39] <TRider> on startup i get a terminal screen with GRUB_ infront. I have ubuntu already installed. what can I do ?
[17:39] <cheako_> !tivo
[17:40] <Calinou_> wow, system works with old linux versions... YAY
[17:40] <Calinou_> thanks anyway guys
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> TRider: boot to the liveCD and chroot to the installed OS, then run:  sudo update-grub
[17:40] <luca_> dear friends which is the version of gnome on ubuntu 11.10??
[17:41] <Calinou_> 2 if you use gnome fallback
[17:41] <luca_> fallback??
[17:41] <Calinou_> aka. old gnome
[17:41] <luca_> how can i chech gnome version??
[17:41] <pagan0ne> luca_ 11.10 uninstalls gnome and installs unity, however you can reinstall gnome, which i have done myself its the new gnome-shell which is woah confusing to people used to 'old gnome'
[17:41] <Calinou_> like 10.10 and prior
[17:41] <luca_> check
[17:41] <Pici> luca_, Calinou_: There is no gnome2 in 11.10
[17:42] <Pici> luca_, Calinou_: There is a GNOME3-fallback mode that looks somewhat like gnome2 though.
[17:42] <TRider> what is chroot to the installed OS
[17:42] <luca_> Pci, gnome 3 or gnome 2?
[17:43] <luca_> how can i check the gnome version??
[17:43] <Pici> !gnome2 | luca_
[17:43] <pagan0ne> luca_, 11.10 allows you to install gnome 3, but comes with unity instead
[17:44] <Pici> pagan0ne: Unity is a shell for gnome3. It just isn't gnome-shell.
[17:44] <RingZer0> which is more lightweight for a desktop env: Xfce or Lxde?
[17:44] <luca_> But I had gnome 2 also in the previous version
[17:44] <pagan0ne> Pici, wow, that makes things even more confusing x.x
[17:44] <Calinou_> does gnome 3 limit FPS to 52? like gnome2 + effects do?
[17:44] <Pici> Calinou_: I don't know.
[17:44] <luca_> so the gnome version is the same in ubuntu 11.04 and in 11.10
[17:45] <RingZer0> how difficult is it to install a separate desktop environment like Lxde on the regular 11.10 distro?
[17:45] <luca_> nothing has changed
[17:45] <Pici> luca_: No, thats not what I said.
[17:45] <eolo999> oops, forgot to mention that i just upgraded to oneiric
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> RingZer0: same as any other package
[17:45] <luca_> Pici you said that the version is the same
[17:45] <h00k> pagan0ne: Ubuntu comes with Gnome 3.2 and uses Unity as a shell.  Gnome-shell is an alternative to Unity that sits on Gnome 3.2 as well
[17:46] <RingZer0> ActionParsnip: i cannot believe apt is so good at resolving dependancies
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> RingZer0: not hard at all. For xfce: sudo apt-get install xfce4  for lxde: sudo apt-get install lxde    and so on
[17:46] <Pici> luca_: The GNOME Foundation has ceased support for GNOME 2, and as such it is not in Ubuntu 11.10. GNOME 3 is the desktop environment on which Unity is based and that is what ships as the default desktop environment in 11.10
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> RingZer0: it needs to be ;)
[17:46] <RingZer0> lol, remember pkgtool ... first time i used was with an early version of slackware
[17:46] <pagan0ne> h00k, i get it, but it doesnt make it any less confusing, its nice that things are extensible in this manner though.
[17:47] <paparent> Hey all ! I just upgraded to 11.10. but now my wifi is pretty buggy.. it's intermittent and unusable. my card is atheros.. is there any thing to? known issue?
[17:47] <RingZer0> POSTIX systems are really evolving into game-changing players in the OS market
[17:48] <famgod> is there a way I can stop using pulseaudio and use alsa?
[17:48] <luca_> Pci: you mean that we have something of Gnome 3 and something of Gnome 2?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> paparent: when the link drops, run:   dmesg | less    may give clues
[17:48] <wriggle> hi.. i did a ssh tunnel to my vps, but i cant install any package on it via apt-get install.. it says unable to locate package. how to fix that?
[17:49] <ChrisGagnon> wriggle: did you run 'apt-get update' first?
[17:49] <blocky> can someone help me get gnome-shell running? I'm using 11.10 32 bit on a virtual box (windows 7 host) and it defaults to the gnome2 type fallback
[17:49] <fmauro> famgod: yes there are seveal guides to remove pulseaudio completely
[17:49] <wriggle> oh no, i forgot.
[17:49] <wriggle> thanks lol
[17:50] <blocky> also I have enabled 3d acceleration on my virtual machine and installed the addons
[17:50] <rdegges> Hi all--quick question. I'm trying to install chrome on 11.10 64-bit. I downloaded the package from google.com/chrome (as usual), but when I open it in the software center to install, I get the error: "Internal Error The file "/path/to/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb couldn't be opened."
[17:50] <bfig> i'm having trouble with sound in general. can somebody help me a bit? i haven't been able to use the microphone ever. in windows it works without doing anything
[17:50] <rdegges> Am I missing something here?
[17:50] <bfig> (ubuntu 11.04 fully updated)
[17:50] <khussein78_> how can i connect l2tp/ipsec VPN from ubuntu ?
[17:50] <rdegges> I'm downloading it via firefox to ~/Downloads, so it's not in a weird directory or anything
[17:51] <pc01> Hola
[17:51] <fmauro> rdegges: you could try installing it directly with dpkg -i
[17:51] <rdegges> fmauro: ok, might as well
[17:51] <luca_> Is better gnome shell than the version we use on ubuntu 11.10??
[17:51] <wriggle> it working now. thanks ChrisGagnon
[17:51] <wriggle> 's
[17:51] <pc01> hello
[17:51] <fmauro> hi
[17:52] <colonia> hi somebody knows some program to audio?
[17:52] <morsedl3> khussein78_: network-manager might work.  vpn -> cisco uses ipsec i believe
[17:52] <colonia> someone speaks portuguese?
[17:52] <pangolin> !br | colonia
[17:52] <pc01> some one speak spanish
[17:52] <llutz> !pt | colonia
[17:52] <h00k> !es | pc01
[17:52] <TehAndrewRyan> i have serious issues with ccc on ubuntu 11.10
[17:52] <colonia> ola meu cara
[17:53] <khussein78_> i see in vpn just pptp how can i download plugin
[17:53] <morsedl3> khussein78_: openvpn might also do ipsec...
[17:53] <TehAndrewRyan> the control center crashes when i try to change my desktop size
[17:53] <luca_> we have Unity as shell for gnome environment
[17:53] <TehAndrewRyan> i'm also using 2 monitors and can't choose "Extended desktop", because then it crashes when i press Apply
[17:53] <luca_> like in the version 11.04
[17:54] <ibqn> does 11.10 come with gnome 3.2?
[17:54] <morsedl3> khussein78_: i believe 'sudo apt-get install vpnc' will get it for you.
[17:54] <luca_> I don't know how to check the version of gnome but i think it's gnome 2
[17:54] <luca_> also in this version
[17:55] <TehAndrewRyan> so how do i fix the crashing catalyst control center?
[17:55] <sianhulo> people, somebody know how to boot from a usb( bootable usb, no an .ISO) by using grub?
[17:55] <khussein78_> morsedl3,  i will try it
[17:55] <joelikeubuntu> 如何进入CN
[17:55] <bfig> sianhulo, doubt that can be done. you can boot using your bios boot menu probably
[17:55] <Pici> !zh | joelikeubuntu
[17:55] <vince> Nijaho :)
[17:55] <morsedl3> khussein78_: scratch that... i think you need package network-manager-vpnc and perhaps network-manager-vpnc-gnome
[17:56] <sianhulo> bfig, my bios doesn't support it, and yes, grub can do it because i did it a year ago or so, but now i have deafult configuration of grub
[17:56] <lucidguy> looking for a new Enterprise class backup application.  Mainly Linux and Vmware environment. Suggestions?
[17:56] <zach2825> hi
[17:56] <joelikeubuntu> uboottu  谢谢！
[17:56] <luca_> gnome 3 is more elegant
[17:57] <morsedl3> khussein78_: if you run 'sudo apt-cache search network-manager', you'll see the available plugins.  if you don't have apt-cache, install it first.
[17:57] <wriggle> is it possible to get tor via apt-get install? since apt-get install tor is not working
[17:57] <fmauro> !rsync | lucidguy
[17:57] <morsedl3> khussein78_: openvpn also works from the command line / cli and is configured with files in /etc, but that's a bit more involved (yet more flexible)
[17:58] <nsahoo> Hi, I am trying to figure out if the version of ubuntu I am running is suited for NUMA architecture
[17:58] <TehAndrewRyan> catalyst, crashing, unable to configure my monitors.. help?
[17:59] <TheCowboy> It said my upgrade completed with errors, where can I find the error log to see what didn't install? And is there a way to see what packages were upgraded, removed, no longer supported, etc?
[17:59] <nsahoo> the uname -a has this "3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP"
[17:59] <TheCowboy> (Though the upgrade seems to be working fine.)
[17:59] <luca_> anyway if u want you can install gnome 3 shell on ubuntu 11.10
[17:59] <luca_> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[17:59] <luca_> I'm trying
[17:59] <nsahoo> so, is it not optimal for NUMA, only SMP?
[18:00] <luca_> I hope it will be stable
[18:00] <tanath> can anyone tell me why alt+tab doesn't work after upgrading?
[18:00] <morsedl3> khussein78_: scratch that again re: openvpn.  does not support ipsec, although you can tunnel ipsec over it (probably not what you want)
[18:00] <tetsuo--> hello, im getting this error when updating from 11.04 to 11.10 Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.' main.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/708124/ apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/708125/  << What can i do to fix it?
[18:00] <tanath> it's not listed in Keyboard at all, but i did enable it in compiz. still not working
[18:00] <fmauro> lucidguy: In the corporate environment I work in we do rsync of all the data to a ZFS server that creates daily snapshots
[18:01] <tew88> I've just installed 11.10. When in the live environment, everything worked fine. When booting from the hdd, however, the Ubuntu splash screen disappears and I'm left with just text status messages. I suspect my Nvidia drivers. What can I do to get this working?