[15:28] <metaldemon> Can anyone explain to me what I have to do to get this old laptop working?
[15:28] <lessshaste> none of these work http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_you_type_an_e_with_diaeresis_on_a_standard_102-Key_US_keyboard
[15:28] <lessshaste> any ideas?
[15:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> metaldemon: try an xubuntu iso
[15:29] <johnjohn101> lessshaste: can you find it somewhere and copy/paste?
[15:29] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, the problem is that this laptop refuses to boot from a removable
[15:29] <lessshaste> johnjohn101, maybe :)
[15:29] <ntzrmtthihu777> metaldemon: as in a usb device?
[15:29] <sudobash> Mikeasaurus did you reboot after your upgrade, and did you see if pulseaudio was updated? also what are you listening to? Pandora? MP3?
[15:29] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, I run the windows installer, but after running it it does not boot into ubuntu properly, and yes. USB, CD and DVD dont work
[15:30] <johnjohn101> lessshaste: those instruction worked for me  ë
[15:30] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, removables only work in windows xp that is already installed on it
[15:30] <lessshaste> johnjohn101, what exactly did you do?
[15:30] <Mikeasaurus> VLC movie.  x264 AAC2.0
[15:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> metaldemon: windows xp has nothign to do with the boot. if you have a properly setup bootable cd and the right bios flags set it should work. its damn rare to have a lappy not boot from cds.
[15:31] <johnjohn101> I held the control shift down while typing all of the characters.  those are zeros btw
[15:31] <fincan> is friend-app bugy with twitter in 13.04?
[15:31] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, ubuntu seems to have installed just fine, but when I start up I do not get the GRUB2 bootloader
[15:31] <Mikeasaurus> pulseaudio was already upgraded
[15:31] <Mikeasaurus> It's ok.  I will use headphones
[15:31] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, but this laptop is rare, 2003 ASUS A2500L
[15:31] <Peanut> Ah, found a workaround for my Palm Pilot problem: just use "-p usb:" and it will find whatever port it is on.
[15:32] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, it is more weird than really rare though. they are commonly found in dumpsters I think
[15:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> metaldemon: so you installed ubuntu how?
[15:33] <Heavenstorm> This is my question: I am using wpa_supplicant to connect to my wi-fi. After it boots I have to enter "dhclient wlan0" to get it to connect. Does anyone know how to fix that?
[15:33] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, I installed it via the Windows installer. from usb in windows. after that it asks to restart the machine. and then all the errors occur
[15:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> metaldemon: in other words, you used wubi
[15:34] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, Yes, sorry. I am new to ubuntu
[15:34] <ntzrmtthihu777> metaldemon: that's your first mistake. wubi is trash.
[15:34] <contrapunctus> Say, folks...anyone know about ClamAV? I just did a full system scan and got an 8.9 MB large log, which says 3 files are infected...but how do I know which ones? =\
[15:35] <lucido> I'm using a geforce7200 videocard connected to an lcd display via a vga cable and the screen keeps flashing between normal display and blank screen in 5second intervals
[15:35] <metaldemon> ntzrmtthihu777, how else should I install it then, this bios does not have a lot of features and bios updates are no where to be seen. the CD drives lazer is probably not functioning. however the usb ports do work
[15:36] <Guest95268> hi ubuntustudio alsa related issue using 13.04
[15:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> metaldemon: pm me. I can't tell you how many shit laptops i've restored, I'll help ya out.
[15:36] <riddrib> all right
[15:37] <donvito2> media player like winamp or aimp for ubuntu?
[15:37] <esx> donvito2: audacious
[15:37] <donvito2> THANKS
[15:37] <BluesKaj> lucido, drop to a tty, ctrl+alt+f1 ,login then do,  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current and reboot, if that's possible
[15:37] <contrapunctus> donvito2, what's wrong with VLC? ;)
[15:38] <lucido> BluesKaj, I already selected the propriatary nvidia drivers in software sources and it says its active now
[15:38] <contrapunctus> Say, folks...anyone know about ClamAV? I just did a full system scan and got an 8.9 MB large log, which says 3 files are infected...but how do I know which ones? =\
[15:38] <riddrib> where you working I working in Coca cola system office
[15:39] <lucido> BluesKaj, the screen isnt flashing in the bios or during boot
[15:40] <BluesKaj> lucido, no matter , use the nvidia-current driver , the one you selected obviously doesn't work
[15:42] <deadweasel> (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[15:43] <deadweasel> i'm having serious screen issues..I removed a video card (1 of 2) and one of my screens seems to be pointed at the old device...
[15:43] <adamk> deadweasel: Pastebin the full /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (if you have one).
[15:44] <deadweasel> good method to pastebin from command line?
[15:44] <riddrib> where the video with youtube-dl is saving?
[15:45] <adamk> deadweasel: pastebinit
[15:46] <ndhakara> hello, I wanna learn how I can connect twitter with friend-apps, or ist bugged?
[15:48] <deadweasel> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5629506/
[15:48] <deadweasel> next one coming
[15:48] <antitau> heyhey, anybody have experience installing the newest nvidia driver?
[15:49] <SnowmanX11> Can somebody propose me a good audio grabber tool?
[15:49] <antitau> i'm on 12.10
[15:50] <antitau> i seem to have broken everything, stuck in 640x480 mode. the installation went fine, i ran nvidia-xconfig and restarted but when i access the settings it's still saying the driver isn't being used
[15:50] <deadweasel> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5629511/
[15:51] <deadweasel> i recently reinstalled drivers for my 7970, thinking it would help
[15:51] <adamk> antitau: Check the Xorg log file to see why the nvidia driver isn't being used.
[15:52] <adamk> deadweasel: Can you also pastebin the output of 'dmesg' ?
[15:54] <M4d3L-Rabbit> hi to get memory usage for php I use this command total=0; for i in `ps -C php -o rss=`; do total=$(($total+$i)); done; echo "Memory usage: $total kb"; how can I change that to use the process id specifiquely
[15:55] <doomlord_> anyone here got displaylink working under ubuntu ? i just tried following some instructions , i managed to get my desktop visible on the displaylink monitor, but it disabled my main graphics card;
[15:56] <doomlord_> in particular the instructions go on about "xinerama", but the existing config talks about "twinview", (this was setup by the nvidia tool)
[15:56] <doomlord_> are xinerama & twinview mutually exclusive ?
[15:59] <ndhakara> I need help to connect twitter with friend-apps
[16:01] <uberamd> ndhakara: add the twitter account in the System Settings
[16:01] <ndhakara> uberamd: yea but it doesnt connect
[16:01] <ndhakara> uberamd: when I click to add twitter blank white screen coming for a while and then crashes
[16:02] <uberamd> ndhakara: sound's like it's failing to load the twitter oauth page
[16:02] <ndhakara> uberamd: can u connect it?
[16:02] <uberamd> ndhakara: i just did about an hour ago, successfully
[16:03] <uberamd> ndhakara: i'll try again
[16:03] <uberamd> ndhakara: yes it works perfectly for me
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L-Rabbit: change `ps -C php -o rss=`         to     `ps -ef | grep PID | grep -v grep`       or similar
[16:03] <ndhakara> uberamd: did u ypgrade ur system or fresh install?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> M4d3L-Rabbit: you'll be messing with stuff like grep and grep -v
[16:06] <Pici> M4d3L-Rabbit, ActionParsnip: pgrep might make this a lot easier
[16:08] <deadweasel> adamk: best way to pastebinit dmseg?
[16:08] <usr13> !paste | deadweasel
[16:08] <mchlbhm> Hey! I have another Q. Can I use something other than unity in ubuntu 12.04 amd64?
[16:08] <llutz> ActionParsnip: ps -p <pid>
[16:08] <deadweasel> thx usr13
[16:09] <usr13> mchlbhm: Sure.  xubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop  etc.
[16:09] <deadweasel> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5629562/
[16:10] <mchlbhm> Usr13: Thank you
[16:10] <donvito2> is it posible to run weather application just like on smartphones on ubuntu desktop?
[16:11] <n-iCe> the 13.04 iso is not formatting my hard drive and not doing anuinstallation effects any idea?
[16:11] <usr13> n-iCe: "anuinstallation effects"?  Are you doing an install?
[16:11] <mchlbhm> donvito: It is, but I only saw from the software center and the reviews werent very good.
[16:12] <n-iCe> yes, after it says reboot to make effects and boot in the system it does not do it afyer reboot myblap says no os detected
[16:12] <mchlbhm> Which reminds me... Google is calling me
[16:13] <adamk> deadweasel: That's not the output from 'dmesg', that's your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
[16:13] <mchlbhm> Thanks again :D
[16:14] <usr13> n-iCe: So how did the install process go?  Did you install the grub boot loader to the MBR of your primary hard drive?
[16:14] <usr13> !grub | n-iCe
[16:14] <n-iCe> well Ubuntu does it by itself i think i just selected use all the disk and erase my old os
[16:15] <usr13> n-iCe: Yes, it does, or should have, unless you skipped part of the process.
[16:15] <n-iCe> I did not I even tried with two isos and did not work
[16:16] <nedbat> I'm trying to use limits.d to restrict resource usage, and it doesn't seem to kick in.  If I run a process with "sudo -u sandbox programname", should the limits on the sandbox user be in effect?
[16:16] <usr13> n-iCe: It sounds a lot like grub did not get installed.
[16:16] <usr13> n-iCe: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[16:17] <betrayd> usr13: wasn't there a grub that would not show if there is only 1 OS on the system
[16:17] <n-iCe> im installing other os and doing a hard format drive i think ubuntu does not do ot well sinxe it takes like 2 minutes doing it and win does it in like 30minites seems a deep format
[16:18] <n-iCe> we will see
[16:18] <llutz> betrayd: that's default behaviour at least with 12.10
[16:19] <usr13> betrayd: n-iCe Said that his system reports "no os detected".
[16:19] <betrayd> gotcha thx llutz, usr13
[16:19] <usr13> betrayd: ... which indicates that grub is not installed.  Right?
[16:20] <betrayd>  yeppers
[16:21] <n-iCe> lets hope win fix the things
[16:22] <n-iCe> i tried to install ubuntu netinstall and cancelled it
[16:22] <n-iCe> npt sure if it has something to do
[16:22] <threex5> when i 'connect to server' using nautilus, it will close my connection after a while. How do ensure that my connection stays open?
[16:22] <Cantide> how do i install ubuntu 13.04 on a flash drive from an iso image on my hdd ?
[16:22] <n-iCe> but i deleted it and did a clean whole system installation and did not boot
[16:23] <usr13> Cantide: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[16:23] <usr13> n-iCe: Boot the live CD and take a look.  See what is there.
[16:24] <Cantide> usr13, thanks :)
[16:24] <n-iCe> i did checked gparted and looks like all was installed correctly
[16:24] <usr13> n-iCe: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit   #Send URL. We will look too.
[16:24] <c_s> Unable to send files to android phone via bluetooth.
[16:24] <n-iCe> if windows does not boot either or detected i will pressume my hard drive or laptop system is fuucked up
[16:24] <deadweasel> adamk: my bad, try this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5629597/
[16:25] <betrayd> c_s did they pair succesfully?
[16:25] <n-iCe> usr13 right now, I cant
[16:25] <c_s> betrayd : ya
[16:25] <betrayd> c_s try the other way around, send from the other device
[16:26] <c_s> betrayd : no way.
[16:26] <betrayd> your call
[16:26] <anew> what is the purpose of the hosts file ?
[16:27] <c_s> betrayd : after pairing I don't have the option for browsing files. only send files.
[16:27] <betrayd> c_s: maybe a time limit?
[16:28] <betrayd> c_s: might be too quick, then drops
[16:28] <c_s> betrayd : when I click to send file it starts with progress bar and then stops displaying an error.
[16:29] <betrayd> c_s: did the progress bar show some data was passed?
[16:29] <betrayd> or just 0
[16:29] <deadweasel> adamk: it hangs on Checking Battery State when starting lightdm
[16:29] <c_s> betrayd : it just starts. but no percentage is shown.
[16:29] <deadweasel> i've tried removing .Xauthority, removing and reinstalling xorg, reboot, etc.
[16:30] <netlar> what can you do if a peripheral does not appear to be supported by linux?
[16:30] <deadweasel> write your own driver
[16:30] <netlar> deadweasel: not sure I am able to do that
[16:31] <betrayd> replace with a supported one?
[16:31] <deadweasel> me either. what peripheral?
[16:31] <netlar> deadweasel: a bluetooth dongle
[16:31] <nedbat> ulimit is a bash built-in that sets limits on the current shell.  If I want to run a program with limits on just that program, and I don't use a shell, what are my options?
[16:32] <netlar> already looked on the list for linux and the manufacturer is not on the list
[16:32] <adamk_> deadweasel, Ultimately, the problem appears to be this: (EE) fglrx(0): The graphics processor is already set to console mode, set X mode fail. Cannot start X.
[16:32] <adamk_> deadweasel, I've never seen that error before, though, and nothing appears out of the ordinary in your config file or dmesg.
[16:33] <msh210> Hey, all. I've read man shutdown and man reboot and I see a way to shut down after n seconds, but I'm looking for a way to reboot after n seconds. Is there a way?
[16:33] <nedbat> msh210: shutdown -r     ?
[16:33] <betrayd> netlar: also tried other liveCDs?
[16:34] <msh210> nedbat d'oh I missed that flag in the man page
[16:34] <msh210> thanks!
[16:34] <deadweasel> adamk_: thanks for taking a look.  i probably borked something somewhere..
[16:35] <netlar> betrayd: what do you mean?
[16:35] <betrayd> try a different distro netlar
[16:36] <netlar> betrayd: I want to use Ubuntu
[16:36] <netlar> Everything else is fine
[16:37] <servvs> is there any way to remove python 2.7.4 and reinstall 2.7.3? It has totally screwed my programming releases
[16:37] <jrib> servvs: how has it totally screwed your programming releases?
[16:37] <mbruton> Anyone know if there is an issue with the initial Apache2 configuration and MaaS?  The apache2 error logs state file not found for /var/www/maas.
[16:38] <servvs> I usually package my programs with Pyinstaller or bbfreeze for releases and I am just getting all kinds of errors with python 2.7.4
[16:38] <nic013> anyone here using goldendict???
[16:39] <jrib> servvs: you should try to troubleshoot the errors imo
[16:39] <messa4> hello
[16:39] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone care to assist me in compiling xscreensaver from source?
[16:39] <netlar> hello messa4
[16:40] <nic013> anyone here using goldendict???
[16:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience !details | nic013
[16:41] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: why are you compiling xscreensaver from source?
[16:41] <messa4> Does Itunes works on ubuntu? its such a great program
[16:41] <deadweasel> adamk_: any other ideas for fixing?
[16:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> !patience | nic013
[16:41] <deadweasel> or logs you could use?
[16:41] <jrib> messa4: doubtful (maybe with wine), but there are plenty of good native music programs
[16:41] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: for vanity, lol. I've changed the text of the xmatrix source code to reference my handle instead of neo :P
[16:42] <designbybeck_> So 13.04 doesn't support ATI RadeonHD 2000-4000 video cards? And I'm guessing that includes the Mobility series as well? I have a Dell 17 Studio Laptop I'm trying to get working
[16:42] <jrib> !source | ntzrmtthihu777
[16:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> messa4: playonlinux has a script to do it.
[16:42] <messa4> ntzrmtthihu777: u just click it?
[16:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: I got the source, that's no problem. It's configure & make gives me issue.
[16:42] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: read the page please
[16:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> messa4: its like a wizard, though.
[16:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: no need, sir.
[16:43] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: ok, so you've rebuilt it?
[16:44] <adamk_> designbybeck, The open source driver should work on those GPUs by default.
[16:44] <messa4> can u use ubuntu for programming?
[16:44] <jrib> messa4: sure
[16:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: because, 1. the xmatrix screensaver is in xscreensaver-data-extras, and apt-get source will not fetch that, and 2. I've already got the source from github. and no, I have not.
[16:44] <messa4> in Visual basic and delphi
[16:44] <adamk_> deadweasel, Not really, sorry. Googling for that exact phrase turned up only two results, and neither were helpful.
[16:44] <messa4> just kidding
[16:44] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: why will apt-get source not fetch *that*?
[16:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> messa4: yeah, hell yeah. linux period is hella good for programming in any language except .net
[16:45] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: i.e. what happened when you tried?
[16:45] <DarsVaeda> how do I trigger an upgrade to 13.04 from 12.04? I got a message that 13.04 is available but postponed it but now I want to upgrade but do not get any possibility
[16:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: because doing apt-get source xscreensaver-data-extra snatches xscreensaver instead.
[16:45] <DarsVaeda> I tried "sudo update-manager -d" with no success
[16:45] <jrib> DarsVaeda: you can't you need to upgrade to 12.10 first
[16:45] <jrib> !upgrade | DarsVaeda
[16:46] <DarsVaeda> ah sorry I meant 12.10
[16:46] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: that's the correct source package.
[16:46] <designbybeck_> So we can't use Ubuntu 13.04 with ATI cards?
[16:46] <designbybeck_> at least the Radeon HD 4650 series?
[16:46] <adamk_> designbybeck, Why do you keep saying that?
[16:46]  * r00t-err0r AFK
[16:47] <designbybeck_> oh sorry adamk_, my settings weren't showing I had a reply sorry
[16:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> well that's dumb, lol. give me a sec and I'll give the apt-get source a shot.
[16:47] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: if you follow the instructions in the link ubottu gave you, you'll see several packages will be built from the xscreensaver source package
[16:47] <designbybeck_> adamk_: i don't see my HDMI video/audio out options without it though
[16:47] <adamk_> designbybeck, Well HDMI video should definitely work with the open source drivers.  Not sure about HDMI audio, though I thought it was supported.  The folks in #radeon may be able to help.
[16:48] <jrib> DarsVaeda: I don't know what postpone is or does.  If the documentation doesn't discuss it either, then you might try using do_release_upgrade (upgrade in the terminal) instead
[16:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: true, but the apt-gotten source still fails on make
[16:48] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: you shouldn't be running make
[16:48] <jrib> directly anyway
[16:48] <designbybeck_> ok thank you adamk_ I'm finishing some other updates, then I'll try to see what all else I can do with the Open Source drivers
[16:48] <Peanut> Are there any big issues known with 13.04 that should keep you from upgrading?
[16:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: and why not? I did ./configure first, if that is what you are worried about?
[16:48] <DarsVaeda> jrib: postpone = there was a button to cancel the upgrade
[16:48] <sere> using 13.4 kernel 3.8 and my synaptic keeps freezing not sure why...no command line outpout either just keeps freezing
[16:49] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: because that's not how you rebuild a deb package (see the link)
[16:49] <jrib> DarsVaeda: I see.  I'm not familiar with it
[16:49] <DarsVaeda> I just foudn an article stating that I first have to install updates then I can upgrade, I'll test that
[16:50] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: seems excessive to build a deb for it, but this will work. thank you.
[16:51] <jrib> ntzrmtthihu777: no problem
[16:51] <betrayd> lol then release it
[16:52] <servvs> jrib I am trying to do that, but there are some inconsistencies  with what is happening and it is making it very difficult, for instance with bbfreeze, it is including version 2.7.3 of the python interpreter (which I don't think I even have anymore) and that is causing some version errors
[16:53] <jrib> servvs: do you have things in /usr/local/?  Also, try clearing .pyc files maybe.  #python might be able to help you more in tracing the errors (pastebin them somewhere).  I have to go but feel free to pastebin them to here too
[16:54] <designbybeck_> Ubuntu 13.04 keeps crashing. It goes to a panic occurrred, switching back to text console
[16:55] <designbybeck_> this is about the 4th time i've gotten the panic
[16:57] <Bray90820> how would i get alsamixer setting to stick on reboot
[16:58] <betrayd> there's a save/restore Bray90820 type 'man alsactl
[16:59] <Bray90820> betrayd: so first i do my alsamixer stuff then i do man alsactl
[17:00] <betrayd> man is manual to read about the alsactl options that explain them in full
[17:00] <Bray90820> ahh ok
[17:00] <Bray90820> thank you
[17:00] <betrayd> yw Bray90820
[17:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: functioning :D
[17:02] <gerep> Hi all...90 minutes from now, I need to receive a alert so I can take a break, what's the best application for that? Thanks
[17:02] <apineda> I'm trying to run a python script in a background process using nohup, it's actually a django server, however it's not working unless I run it directly in the terminal (ie not using nohup). I also don't know how ot get this running on startup on ubuntu server.
[17:04] <Myrtti> gerep: sounds like workrave
[17:05] <gerep> Myrtti, thanks, I'll try it ;)
[17:05] <stat_vi> gerep, Myrtti: sounds like `sleep $((90*60)) && notify-send "Alert"` :)
[17:06] <gerep> stat_vi, I did that but was looking for something already done and with a UI =)
[17:06] <ntzrmtthihu777> jrib: holy crap, lol. the source code produced 6 deb packages XD
[17:07] <pagios> is this compatible with linux? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815100112
[17:11] <nuclearbob> stgraber: ping
[17:13] <theadmin> apineda: To run on startup, you'll need /etc/init/django-server.conf (or something) with two lines: "start on startup" and "exec /path/to/command"
[17:13] <jhutchins_wk> In the command "${ENDIR}/sar $* -f ${DFILE} > ${RPT}" (quotes mine), what does $* do?
[17:15] <theadmin> jhutchins_wk: "All of the positional parameters, seen as a single word" (from TLDP)
[17:15] <theadmin> jhutchins_wk: That is, if you run your script as ./myscript blah blah bleh bloh, $* is the string "blah blah bleh bloh"
[17:15] <betrayd>  gerep at + xcowsay
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> pagios, seems to but not a ubuntu support question. http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure/20881
[17:18] <frankbro_> I just installed xubuntu 13.04, installed some update, restarted. Now all I see is some kind of old view like a browser screenshot of several sites (google, webupd8), can't access tty nor kill x. Ssh aint installed. Anyone know what can be done?
[17:27] <wilee-nilee> frankbro_, Try the earlier kernel in 13.04 if there is one and check what was updated and your graphic and additional drivers stuff, and give some real details for help.
[17:28] <Bray90820> how would i auto mount a samba location on boot
[17:28] <Drago> ciao :)
[17:28] <theadmin> Bray90820: to fstab: //servername/sharename mountpoint cifs username=your_username,password=your_password
[17:29] <Noggo> hello
[17:29] <Drago> !LIST
[17:29] <Bray90820> theadmin: is that a terminal command
[17:29] <theadmin> Bray90820: No, add that line to /etc/fstab
[17:29] <theadmin> Bray90820: (modify it accordingly, of course)
[17:29] <Bray90820> well yes :P
[17:30] <dilyarasi> hello
[17:30] <dilyarasi> i have a question
[17:30] <Atlantic777> Hi! I have a computer with 12.04 installed and I was told that the computer randomly freezes and sometimes it can't recover from sleep/suspend. I did upgrade, it seems that upgrade fiexed these problems but I would like to check what was wrong.
[17:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | dilyarasi
[17:30] <Atlantic777> What logs should I check?
[17:30] <__Trullo> I need a fast file indexer for ubuntu, any suggestions?
[17:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> Atlantic777: does your ram exceed your swap?
[17:30] <devtekbeta> is there a list of supported wifi cards for ubuntu?
[17:30] <devtekbeta> i cant find it in the wiki/docs
[17:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> __Trullo: locate is nice :D
[17:30] <Noggo> it is possible with ubuntu 13.04 to hide the icon for mounted drives (usb stick/ usb hdd) in the unity launcher
[17:31] <_Trullo> ntzrmtthihu777, I need something for the desktop
[17:31] <Bray90820> theadmin: just at the bottom right?
[17:31] <frankbro_> wilee-nilee: it seems like it messed up my graphic card. I managed to boot from recovery mode but now it won't detect my second screen. lspci does indicate the right card tho.
[17:31] <chutney> devtekbeta, the support cards would be the supported card for all distros of linux using your kernel version
[17:31] <Atlantic777> ntzrmtthihu777: no, I don't think so.
[17:31] <theadmin> Bray90820: Yes, on a new line at the bottom.
[17:31] <Bray90820> ok
[17:31] <Bray90820> thank you
[17:32] <jhutchins_wk> theadmin: What it does is pass sar the -A from /etc/cron.d/sysstat
[17:32] <theadmin> Bray90820: And make sure you have "cifs-utils" installed.
[17:32] <jhutchins_wk> theadmin: But yeah, thanks!
[17:32] <Bray90820> ok
[17:32] <toti55> Ciao a tutti
[17:32] <wilee-nilee> frankbro_, Cool, not my area of pay in general, but details are really helpful. ;)
[17:32] <toti55> 1list
[17:33] <dilyarasi> i will install ubuntu. i have win 7 os an have two partition c and d . c is main win 7. i will install ubuntu to d drive and have some files on d. will ubuntu delete my files on d drive? ntzrmtthihu777
[17:33] <devtekbeta> chutney i do not understand "the supported card for all distros using kernel version" there are many different cards
[17:33] <anew> when i run top, there is a line 'Cpu(s)' what is the difference betwene this and and down where the pid's are and it says %CPU ?
[17:33] <pagios> http://www.amazon.com/KWorld-Expert-Video-Maker-KW-USB2800D/dp/B000234SMQ   can anyone tell me if this device outputs audio on the usb or only on rthe audio_out? trying to connect to ubuntu
[17:33] <devtekbeta> oh you mean i look up the kernel version and see what cards that supports
[17:33] <chutney> yes
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> dilyarasi, Ubuntu does not use NTFS partitions, and you most likely have at least 3 primaries, maybe a 4th firmware look at the HD from ubuntu.
[17:34] <subsilico> Atlantic777: did you do an apt-get upgrade or a do-release-upgrade?
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> ntfs for instals anyway.
[17:35] <dilyarasi> you mean i need 4 partition for ubuntu install?
[17:35] <Bray90820> theadmin: how would i find my server name i am finding 2 different things and i don't know which one is correct
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> dilyarasi,  No, that windows has 4 already in a standard msdos setup 4 primaries is the limit, or 3 and a exteneded for logicals.
[17:36] <Bray90820> theadmin: nevermind
[17:36] <devtekbeta> ok i want to use ubuntuStudio latest version, it says Ubuntu Kernel 3.5.0-23.35. where can i find a list of wifi cards this supports? i searched google but it dosnt show anything useful
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> many oem installs have 4 primary partitions, two hidden in windows. dilyarasi
[17:37] <chutney> devtekbeta, what have you got already for a wifi card?
[17:37] <devtekbeta> i havnt looked yet. but it is a msi u135 netbook with win7 starter working on it
[17:37] <dilyarasi> ok thnx wilee-nilee
[17:38] <uberamd> devtekbeta: I'd figure out which card you have first
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> dilyarasi, Cool, just be sure to be backed up prepared for any contingency. ;)
[17:39] <frankbro_> Really weird. Now I installed ssh. Killed x, got sent to I think its lighted, logged back in, as soon as Im logged in, the display becomes trash.
[17:39] <Atlantic777> subsilico: yes, I did upgrade.
[17:39] <subsilico> cool
[17:40] <subsilico> i am having the same issue with stability with 12.10 and i am currently running apt-get upgrade so i hope it fixes it.
[17:40] <jmnoz> running 13.04: oneconf-service and apt-check is consuming a lot of CPU, what's happening?
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> frankbro_ You can go to users and make a second account and see if its the same if you login to it, just an option.
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> easily made and removed
[17:40] <Atlantic777> subsilico: actually, this fixed it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[17:41] <Bray90820> on the menu bar there are usually menus such as places but there not there fo rme
[17:41] <Bray90820> for me
[17:41] <subsilico> Atlantic777: interesting
[17:43] <subsilico> so you had to run that apt-get command?
[17:43] <chutney> devtekbeta, according to msi'2 web site, your m135 netbook can come with several different wifi cards, but if you have windows installed and running you can find out which one in device manager
[17:44] <Atlantic777> subsilico: yes, it leaves lts system but installs X stack from newer release which can fix lots of problems with fresh hardware.
[17:45] <subsilico> hmm, my hardware is old
[17:45] <Bray90820_> k
[17:45] <lucido> whats the pseudo packages name that installs the full desktop ?
[17:45] <Bray90820_> Test can anyone read
[17:45] <chutney> yes
[17:45] <Bray90820_> on the menu bar there are usually menus such as places but there not there for rme
[17:45] <Atlantic777> subsilico: things break from time to time...
[17:46] <nimby> Hi! I upgraded from 12.04 to 13.04 and now I can't boot the system, it just boots to a black screen with a _ blinking away.
[17:46] <Bray90820_> all it says is ubuntu desktop
[17:47] <looop> nimby, its very risky to update like this
[17:47] <looop> i never done it, only clean installs
[17:47] <nimby> it is a clean install
[17:48] <looop> ohh
[17:48] <nimby> I meant that 12.04 has worked fine
[17:48] <devtekbeta> in the device manager it says i have: 802.11bgn 1t1r mini card wireless adapter
[17:48] <zacarias> Hi. I've been trying to load live cd's with 13.04 on my PowerPC mac. I've tried with Kubuntu and Lubuntu. However, after the splash screen, booting freezes on a black screen with some messages, where the last one states "Stoping mount network filesystems". I currently have Kubuntu 12.04 installed on the machine, and that works well. Any help?
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> nimby, How is a upgrade a clean install?
[17:48] <nimby> i deleted all partitions
[17:48] <nimby> and then installed it
[17:48] <theadmin> zacarias: Ubuntu has special images for macs, are you using them?
[17:48] <jaequery> i currently have setup w/ it's own /boot partition set to 65M. unfortunately it's too small for me to install some other apps that creates additional kernels such as gotroot hardened kernels. can i just tar up the /boot folder, unmount it from partition, and then extract it so that /boot now belongs to the root partition?
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> nimby, You had a seperate home?
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | nimby
[17:49] <nimby> nothing
[17:49] <mike_> is there anyone else in here
[17:49] <zacarias> theadmin: yes, I'm using live cd's for PowerPc mac's
[17:49] <nimby> ok
[17:50] <theadmin> zacarias: Hm okaysies, never mind then. For all I know, staying with LTS usually works better.
[17:50] <n-iCe> hello, question, how can I put linux in a usb to boot with it, this machine has windows.
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> nimby, If you have loaded graphic drivers in the past if you get in go to additional drivers after fully updating
[17:50] <chutney> devtekbeta, that's not very descriptive. it might be a prorietary wifi card. msi likes making those. I suppose your best option is running the livecd and seeing if it detects your card
[17:50] <lucido> unetbootin
[17:50] <theadmin> n-iCe: Yes, indeed: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[17:51] <devtekbeta> ok chutney. can i make a liveusb of ubuntustudio to test it?
[17:51] <nimby>     k
[17:51] <devtekbeta> i have no cd drive
[17:51] <n-iCe> awesome theadmin thanks
[17:51] <chutney> you can boot a liveiso from usb stick, yes
[17:51] <nimby> I'll look in to the moodset thing now, chat won
[17:51] <devtekbeta> cool illl try that thanks
[17:51] <nimby> 't be open, thanks
[17:51] <jmnoz> has anyone got a clue as to why I consistently keep seeing "oneconf-service" and "apt-check" using a lot of CPU on 13.04?
[17:52] <zacarias> theadmin: Yes, but it's a pitty not to be able to upgrade. I'm using Kubuntu 13.04 on a Macbook, and that works fine. It's maybe a PPC issue, or a driver one
[17:52] <jmnoz> I realize those process has to do with the update manager somehow but how can I figure out what the processes are doing?
[17:52] <theadmin> zacarias: That's what I'm saying. If there are issues they're likely going to be fixed in the next LTS (14.04)
[17:52] <subsilico> anyone been watching the ubuntu phone emulator news?
[17:53] <A1Recon> Made a Ubuntu LiveKey using LiLiUSB Creator but for some reason it won't boot from there!!!
[17:53] <zacarias> theadmin: yes, I hope :-(
[17:53] <tobak> hi everyone. i got a problem: encrypted parition... booting with WakeOnLAN. Problem: typing in the passphrase. Do you guys have any idea, how i kann convert my partition back to a normal one ? the encryption wasn't essentia
[17:54] <A1Recon> Can someone help ?? I made a Ubuntu LiveKey using LiLiUSB Creator but for some reason it won't boot from there!!!
[17:55] <Alisthegreatest> hows it going, im a noob and just joined this,this is still somewhat weird.
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> Alisthegreatest, Relax and enjoy the damage, lol.
[17:58] <A1Recon> Can someone help ?? I made a Ubuntu LiveKey using LiLiUSB Creator but for some reason it won't boot from there!!!
[17:58] <lucido> A1Recon, stop repeating please
[18:00] <lucido> A1Recon, what are u trying to do?
[18:00] <A1Recon> I am trying to dual boot
[18:01] <A1Recon> win7 ubuntu
[18:01] <looop> how can you dual boot with a usb key
[18:01] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, This involving a UEFI set up in windows?
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> looop, what is the usb for a load for installing or a fulkl install to?
[18:02] <wilee-nilee> full*
[18:02] <A1Recon> Never mind got it....
[18:03] <Alisthegreatest> 8-)
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> A1Recon: alot of packages can replace your windows needs these days :p single boot ubuntu is a great idea :p
[18:05] <lotuspsychje> oh he left
[18:06] <Alisthegreatest> hey guys i have a question, are there any software developers here? i want to try a new ide out (used to use vs on windows) looked into eclipse but its all for javascript.
[18:07] <OerHeks> !ide
[18:07] <Alisthegreatest> thanks
[18:07] <zacarias> join #kubuntu
[18:08] <adamk_> Alisthegreatest, Eclipse is not for javascript.
[18:08] <moppers> eclipse has plugins for many languages
[18:08] <adamk_> Alisthegreatest, It's written in java (mostly), supports java natively, and supports many other programming languages.
[18:09] <moppers> never understood the purpose of ide actually
[18:09] <Alisthegreatest> oh , so would i have to add a c/c++ plugins to it?
[18:09] <uberamd> moppers: intellisense style code completion
[18:09] <jmnoz> what is the package  update-notifier-common and why does flashplayer-installer and mcorefonts require it?
[18:09] <moppers> all i want is an integrated debugger, i guess that's useful
[18:10] <jmnoz> I can not understand how those packages are related
[18:10] <uberamd> moppers: yeah. code completion in IDEs is awesome, so is database aware IDEs that know your table structures
[18:10] <dogface> moppers: program in q4
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> guys lets stick to ubuntu troubleshooting
[18:10] <moppers> i've never used code completion, i find it annoying: it's like autocorrect on a phone, but i guess it's a personal thing
[18:11] <moppers> *err i have tried it, but dont use it ever for real
[18:11] <uberamd> moppers: it beats having to remember the syntax and various overloads of every function in a massive project :)
[18:11] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[18:11] <dogface> moppers: meant qt
[18:11] <trism> jmnoz: both packages use the hooks in update-notifier-common to download the archives those packages install (since they aren't in the repo)
[18:12] <jmnoz> trism: thanks for explaining
[18:12] <Alisthegreatest> has anyone here tried using code blocks?
[18:13] <akaash_tux> hi , i have installed new ubuntu 13.04 on my system . And it is not able to detect my usb-modem . pls help
[18:13] <moppers> code::blocks
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> Alisthegreatest: please discuss ubuntu troubles only in this chat mate
[18:13] <jmnoz> trism: it's weird though. Removing that package shouldn't trigger the removal of flash and mcorefonts. But I guess it's the way apt is designed.
[18:13] <Alisthegreatest> sorry
[18:13] <dogface> Alisthegreatest: qt works in code blocks.
[18:14] <jmnoz> trism: is it possible to find out what else requires that package somehow?
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> Alisthegreatest: ##programming and #ubuntu-offtopic you might find interesting
[18:14] <moppers> lotuspsychje, he's asking about IDEs on ubutnu, how is this not relevant?
[18:14] <trism> jmnoz: apt-cache rdepends update-notifier-common;
[18:14] <jmnoz> trism: thanks!
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> moppers: there's a difference in having trouble with an ubuntu ide and asking if someone is using some
[18:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> ok, I attempted to lock my custom gedit deb via synaptic, but when i run dist-upgrade it still wants to be upgraded. what am I doing wrong? !pinning > ntzrmtthihu777
[18:16] <akaash_tux> hi , i have installed new ubuntu 13.04 on my system . And it is not able to detect my usb-modem .  :(  pls help
[18:16] <nedbat> i'm running a number of terminal windows. Is there a way to get the one with the focus to be white on black, and the others to have a different color scheme, so they are distinguished from the one with focus?
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> akaash_tux: what brand is your modem?
[18:17] <trism> ntzrmtthihu777: instead of pinning I would just bump the version before you build it: dch -i
[18:17] <akaash_tux> lotuspsychje : micromax
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> akaash_tux: did you install drivers for the device?
[18:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> trism: really worth the effort? I just got a zeitgeist-free gedit, lol. I will, some time in the future, get a new gedit deb and edit & install that too.
[18:19] <akaash_tux> i in previous version of ubuntu 12.04 it was working. I remember i did some config in /etc/modules . but here too i applied the same but it is not working
[18:20] <trism> ntzrmtthihu777: it's just how I would do it, since packages are rarely updated in the stable versions, and that way I don't have to worry about removing the pin when I upgrade to the next release later
[18:20] <dogface> Alisthegreatest: i lke qt creator. You can create multi platform programs simple as pie.
[18:20] <akaash_tux> lotuspsychje : i in previous version of ubuntu 12.04 it was working. I remember i did some config in /etc/modules . but here too i applied the same but it is not working
[18:22] <duckstep> i've just upgraded from ubuntu 12.10 to 13.04 and my system is now unstable.virtualbox will not run properly and the gnome software center keeps crashing.
[18:22] <duckstep> is there anything i could do to address this?
[18:22] <subsilico> its almost like you didn't upgrade. :)
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> !details | duckstep is your best route here for help.
[18:22] <subsilico> sorry, i'm not helping
[18:23] <Mxx> hey folks. why does linux-image-3.5.0-27-generic (3.5.0-27.46~precise1) have source of linux-lts-quantal_3.5.0-28.48~precise1.tar.gz ?
[18:23] <iceroot> can you recommend a gui-diffviewer which is acting on pasted text and not text-files? so that when i open it i already have 2 windows and can paste text "a" and "b" to get the diff
[18:24] <Mxx> why quantal sounce for precise's kernel?
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> Mxx, The stack upgrade.
[18:24] <duckstep> when i start virtualbox, the Virtualbox Manager loads but is unresponsive. i have to kill it with xkill.
[18:24] <duckstep> i'm not getting any error output
[18:24] <Mxx> wilee-nilee: meaning?
[18:24] <subsilico> did you strace it?
[18:25] <duckstep> dmesg is showing segfaults
[18:25] <duckstep> subsilico: good idea, i'll try that
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> Mxx, Not sure of your tar reference here can you explain.
[18:25] <Mxx> wilee-nilee: see http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/kernel/linux-image-3.5.0-27-generic
[18:25] <dogface> duckstep: sounds like you have to rebuild modules for vbox.  When i set it in Ubuntu 13.04, it shows differently in Windows XP (dual boot) and visa-versa. Can some point out what's happening ?
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> mogmog_, Check the sum of the iso.
[18:35] <mogmog_> wilee-nilee: done that and it passed. i can boot the iso on virtualbox
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> mogmog_, Could it be a graphic driver missing, there is a nomodeset option, just guessing here.
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> could be a bad load to the usb
[18:36] <Guest42106> hi.
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> mogmog_, There is a check the media on the boot gu if you used a app thats loads the usb allowing this, unetbootin passes by this menu stick.
[18:37] <wilee-nilee> gui*
[18:38] <tom_> yo
[18:38] <matt-rk> !
[18:38] <mogmog_> wilee-nilee: maybe. how do i disable/enable nomodeset when booting from usb? i used dd on xubuntu 12.10
[18:38] <Guest42106> can i use any programm to accass on my iPhone
[18:38] <Guest42106> sama iTunes
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset > mogmog_,
[18:38] <Guest42106> same
[18:39] <Jordan_U> mogmog_: Since you used dd, you should be able to run the integrity test from the boot menu. Try that first.
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> good ide
[18:39] <wilee-nilee> idea*
[18:39] <iceroot> !iphone | Guest42106
[18:39] <Jordan_U> !iphone | Guest42106
[18:40] <mogmog_> Jordan_U and wilee-nilee: thanks i'll try that. gtg
[18:44] <longshorej> Is there a way for me to determine if a mountpoint is mounted as nfs4 vs nfs3?
[18:44] <sygnous> mount should tell you the version
[18:44] <ubuntu> mmmmmm
[18:45] <sai_kumar> Hi All, My System time is unstable. When I set the time in Ubuntu 13.04, it shows differently in Windows XP (on dual boot) and visa-versa. Can someone please point out what's happening ? Is it a BIOS problem ?
[18:45] <longshorej> sygnous: Just says nfs, no version : /
[18:45] <anew> i'm trying to quit vim :q
[18:45] <anew> this doesn work?
[18:45] <johnjohn101> sai_kumar,  what time does each say?
[18:45] <elkng> Ctrl-c :q!
[18:46] <th0r> sai_kumar: windows assumes the hardware clock is set to local time, linux usually assumes Universal time
[18:47] <johnjohn101> sai_kumar, it's an XP limitation
[18:47] <anew> E37: No write since last change (add ! to override)
[18:47] <anew> i get this when i try to quit vim
[18:47] <sai_kumar> johnjohn101, I see a huge difference, I have to reset all the time when I switch OS
[18:47] <anew> how do i exit that ?
[18:47] <jrib> anew: read what elkng told you
[18:47] <anew> oh u have to hit enter
[18:47] <anew> i dont like vim
[18:47] <sai_kumar> johnjohn101, but it never happened when i had previous versions of Ubuntu
[18:47] <jrib> anew: you don't have to use i t
[18:47] <dilyarasi> hey i am using windows installer for ubuntu what is installation size?
[18:48] <anew> jrib anything other than nono i can rry ?
[18:48] <anew> *nano i can try
[18:48] <jrib> anew: what do you dislike about nano?
[18:48] <anew> nano i like
[18:48] <jrib> anew: cool, use nano
[18:48] <anew> just want to see if there is anything else out there
[18:49] <anew> because nano doesnt have an 'undo' command
[18:49] <anew> right ?
[18:49] <jrib> anew: it does (see its man page)
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> dilyarasi, Officially discontinued in 13.04, what release are you trying and why?
[18:49] <anew> ctl-u ?
[18:49] <dilyarasi> i try 12.04 it is ok
[18:50] <johnjohn101> sai_kumar: what does /etc/adjtime say?
[18:50] <jrib> anew: usually meta is alt
[18:50] <dilyarasi> 12.10 sorry
[18:50] <sai_kumar> Thor, Ok. but how do I fix the time. does Linux set the hardware time when i change it?
[18:50] <johnjohn101> sai_kumar: I do ntp on all my machines
[18:50] <Moreece> remind me simple way to query NIC to find out what hardware it is?
[18:50] <dilyarasi> i dont have a purpose wilee-nilee just wan to use ubuntu
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> dilyarasi, Little or no support is all, and the developer themselves said not for logterm use, generally it can be harder to fix and can be problematic.
[18:51] <hexacode> hey you guys i did an 'echo "fubarf" >> /dev/tty1'   which the utility 'who' reported to be logged in as myself...but i didnt see anything get output to the terminal. is it not supposed to?
[18:51] <th0r> sai_kumar: I did a simple google on configuring the hwclock in linux and found several answers. Never had to do it myself as I don't dual boot
[18:51] <sai_kumar> johnjohn101, it shows 0.0 0 0.0 in /etc/adjtime
[18:51] <dilyarasi> wilee-nilee: so what can you advice?
[18:53] <sai_kumar> Thor, Do i need to configure (hwclock) every time i boot into Ubuntu ?
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> dilyarasi, If, you are not sure you want it use a usb load with persistence, and if you like dualboot it.
[18:53] <th0r> sai_kumar: shouldn't...just set the hwclock in linux to keep local time and it should take care of the issue.
[18:54] <sai_kumar> johnjohn101, is ntp a internet sync ?
[18:54] <A1Recon> Currently in the installation process. I chose"install ubuntualongside them". I had already created a 15GB partition for Ubuntu. Next I chose the"advanced partitioning tool".My query is where do I install the boot loader?
[18:54] <johnjohn101> sai_kumar: it can be, yes
[18:54] <giasdfres94> what is ubuntu?
[18:54] <sai_kumar> giasdfres94, LOL !
[18:54] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, In the mbr if not a uefi
[18:54] <dilyarasi> thx wilee-nilee i will give a try with cd boot
[18:54] <th0r> sai_kumar: the hwclock setting is a tickbox in the install if I remember correctly. It was just probably set to default to utc
[18:55] <giasdfres94> why LOL
[18:55] <h00k> !ubuntu > giasdfres94
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> giasdfres94, Look on the web for general info this is support.
[18:55] <A1Recon> What is uefi? wilee-nilee
[18:56] <wilee-nilee> !uefi > A1Recon
[18:56] <lucido> my minimal install is stuck at "cleaning up", what do?
[18:56] <th0r> sai_kumar: this might help....https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Time
[18:56] <sai_kumar> thor, if i set the time(top right corner in the Desktop) will it not automatically configure hwclock ?
[18:57] <wilee-nilee> lucido, Minimal install meaning, details are important?
[18:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> is there a way to download the dependency debs with apt-get download? I'm setting up precise on a tower that shall likely remain isolated from the internet, and I want to install some packages on it first without getting stuck in dependency hell.
[18:57] <lucido> wilee-nilee, the mimal iso 37megabytes
[18:58] <lucido> it installs a base system
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> lucido, I know thats why I asked.
[18:59] <giasdfres94> oh ok
[19:00] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee not a uefi so do I install it in /dev/sda1 Windows 7 (loader) or in /dev/sda2 ?
[19:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: aren't you trying to get rid of win$?
[19:01] <A1Recon> Ntzrmtthihu77 No I am trying to dual boot
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, Never add grub to windows it goes to the mbr of the HD installed to no partition #'s
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> sda
[19:01] <wolfgang8741> i'm trying to run a backtrace on compiz following  advanced debug on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingCompiz When I execute the run command on gdb the crash occurs, but I also lose control of the display.  It either corrupts or only displays the background when running on the computer with the issue. Any suggestions on how I could get the backtrace?
[19:02] <ntzrmtthihu777> wolfgang8741: get rid of compiz, lol. what in it do you really need?
[19:02] <adamk_> wolfgang8741, ssh in from another machine, and then 'export DISPLAY=:0; gdb compiz' in that ssh session.
[19:02] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, You in the something other option?
[19:02] <giasdfres94> O:-Is it possible to use adobe premiere on ubuntu?
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, unity is a plugin there.
[19:03] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee no I am in install ubuntu alongside them
[19:03] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: case and point, lol.
[19:03] <n-iCe> is universal usb installer is better than unetbootin?
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, You will need the something other option to pint grub, it is the manual install.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> point*
[19:04] <derp> yes hello  :3
[19:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: the only thing I rather liked from compiz was the desktop grid, you know where you drag a window to the edge and it resizes to fit? I got that with a wmcontroll script now :3
[19:04] <DJones> giasdfres94: The wine database suggests it may work, but isn't too sucessful http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=128
[19:04] <genii-around> giasdfres94: Not natively. Some people have had varying degrees of success with it under WINE. You could check their database at http://appdb.winehq.org/
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, Why are you telling me, this is support not comments. Comments are allowed but sparingly.
[19:05] <wolfgang8741> adam_, would that also work on a 3 monitor setup issue?  I'm working on getting this for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1170418
[19:05] <wolfgang8741> adamk_, would that also work on a 3 monitor setup issue?  I'm working on getting this for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1170418
[19:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> giasdfres94: what is it, exactly?
[19:05] <giasdfres94> oh ok and is there somethig alternative to premiere that I can use on ubuntu?
[19:06] <Bray90820> Anyone know how to mount a samba location on boot
[19:06] <adamk_> wolfgang8741, It will work for debugging compiz without worrying about losing control of your gdb session because you ran gdb in a terminal in X. It doesn't matter what bug you are trying to debug.
[19:06] <Moreece> can anyoe help me install intel pro 10/100 VE drivers on my ubuntu
[19:06] <giasdfres94> ntzrmtthihu777: premiere is a software to edit videos that runs under win
[19:07] <onr> i think i need to get rid of unity
[19:07] <lucido> wilee-nilee, I'm getting BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 22s! [apt-get:31988]
[19:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> onr: try out xubuntu, its nice.
[19:07] <adamk_> Moreece, There should be nothing to install. Intel NICs are very well supported out of the box.
[19:07] <compdoc> premiere is a heavy duty program
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> lucido, All I could do is google that info.
[19:07] <wolfgang8741> adamk_, thanks I'll give that a shot. I did a remote in, but did not have the 'export DISPLAY=:0; gdb compiz' Thanks
[19:07] <ntzrmtthihu777> giasdfres94: maybe lives?
[19:08] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee I wanted to choose which operating system to boot during the computer startup. Can I do that if I use "something else" option? Please keep in mind that I have already shrunk a drive for Ubuntu using the disk management in Win7.
[19:08] <Moreece> adamk: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man4/fxp.4freebsd.html
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, Grub allows that.
[19:08] <giasdfres94> compdoc: yes it really is
[19:08] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee I'm in
[19:09] <adamk_> Moreece, Any reason you are looking at the man page for the FreeBSD fxp driver?
[19:09] <giasdfres94>  ntzrmtthihu777: what do you mean?
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, I think the install alongside defaults grub to the mbr, so not sure whay you ask, the key here is not having to many primary partitions and making the HD go dynamic.
[19:10] <compdoc> giasdfres94, I have Premier CS4. It might run ok on windows running in Virtualbox. I have a friend who uses Illustrator in Wine, and it works but there are small things like dialog boxes that dont work well
[19:11] <themanthatscool3> hello
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon,If you want a bootloader other than grub then state that.
[19:11] <giasdfres94> I think it will run slowly on my sys becaus it is just a double processor 1600 mhz each
[19:11] <A1Recon> No grub's fine
[19:11] <wilee-nilee> cool lunch time here goodluck
[19:11] <themanthatscool3> anyone using raspberry pi
[19:11] <A1Recon> No grub's fine wilee-nilee
[19:11] <onr> ntzrmtthihu777: yeah i use xubuntu on my laptop
[19:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> onr: then why is compiz an issue?
[19:12] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: Grub's boot sector should always be installed to the MBR of a drive, never to a partition. So if you're given the option between for example "sda" and "sda1", you definitely want to chose "sda", *not* a partition like "sda1".
[19:12] <themanthatscool3> onr: i think its awsome
[19:12] <giasdfres94> I think to video edit mac is a bit better than win and ubuntu
[19:13] <onr> ntzrmtthihu777: problem is unity, i don't like those icons
[19:13] <dhanasekaran> HI Guys I have problem with PCI Ethernet card not detected on Ubuntu 12.04 it same card work well in centos
[19:13] <A1Recon> Thank u Jordan_U
[19:14] <ntzrmtthihu777> onr: I tried migrating from ubuntu to xubuntu in-install, did not work so well. fresh install is best option imho. ttyl, gotta go do some literal debugging.
[19:14] <jhutchins_wk> dhanasekaran: Perhaps centos is less picky about non-free firmware.
[19:14] <jhutchins_wk> ntzrmtthihu777: That's just silly.  aptitude install xfce.
[19:14] <dhanasekaran> jhutchins_wk: any help
[19:14] <onr> ntzrmtthihu777: i'm looking at gnome 3.8 now
[19:14] <giasdfres94> dhanasekaran: may be it is not recongnized correctly have you tryed googling to finde compatible drivers?
[19:15] <jhutchins_wk> dhanasekaran: Not unless you can tell us the chipset.
[19:15] <ntzrmtthihu777> onr: then you want gnome-panel not gnome-shell; the latter uses compiz as well.
[19:15]  * ntzrmtthihu777 laters
[19:15] <A1Recon> When I click on install now it says No root file system defined
[19:15] <Savage_CL> /root
[19:16] <jhutchins_wk> dhanasekaran: lspci -nn | grep -i net
[19:16] <dhanasekaran> jhutchins_wk: realtech chipset RTL-8139/8139c/8139C*
[19:16] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee when I click on install now it says no root file system defined
[19:16] <Jordan_U> ntzrmtthihu777: GNOME Shell does not use compiz, it uses a different composited window manager called mutter.
[19:17] <onr> i'll try gnome classic comes with 3.8
[19:17] <jhutchins_wk> dhanasekaran: You might find something here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/RealtekRTL8187b
[19:18] <Bray90820> Can someone explain to me what a credentials file is in cifs
[19:18] <th0r> Bray90820: it contains the username and password for the smb server
[19:19] <jhutchins_wk> Bray90820: It's a file that defines the username and pasword to use for a CIFS mount, often used with fstab to automatically mount the share at boot.
[19:19] <hackoo> I am using Internet though USB Modem in my Ubuntu 12.04 but it get disconnects randomly.  I have usbserial and option modules added in /etc/modules  and I use to do modeprobe these modules for connecting my modem. Can anyone have an idea why it get disconnect randomly.
[19:19] <Bray90820> how would i create a credentials file
[19:19] <jhutchins_wk> hackoo: Wired or wireless?
[19:20] <th0r> Bray90820: a simple text file with two lines...username=xxx and password=xxx if I remember correctly
[19:20] <hackoo> jhutchins_wk: It's USB Modem... wireless. It's dialup type thing.
[19:20] <Bray90820> th0r: well ant that easy
[19:21] <hackoo> jhutchins_wk: USB modem to connect HSPA/3G/GPRS
[19:21] <Bray90820> th0r: can it have any name
[19:22] <th0r> Bray90820: yes, so long as you use that name in the fstab entry
[19:22] <Bray90820> ok
[19:22] <Bray90820> thank you
[19:23] <Moreece> how come when i goto "additional drivers" ... the enabled is greyed and I cant do anything
[19:23] <adamk_> Moreece, What additional drivers do you see there?
[19:24] <A1Recon> Jordan_U when I select a partition and click change another window pops up where it says "Use as: do not use the partition". Do I set it to "ntfs"? If yes what do I set the "Mount point" to ?
[19:24] <Spark> since upgrading to quantal, my scanner now does not work -- scanimage segfaults
[19:24] <Spark> any suggestions?
[19:24] <Spark> it's a bearpaw 1200cu plus and i've installed the firmware
[19:24] <genii-around> hackoo: Might want to try boot option of usbcore.autosuspend=0
[19:24] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: If that is the partition that you want to use for your root filesystem, then make the filesystem "ext4" and the mount point '/'.
[19:25] <Moreece> adamk: looking around on the net I see the intel pro 100 wifi nics have this problem where they continually disconnect from wlan and dont reconnect
[19:25] <Moreece> most of the info points to a driver issue
[19:25] <hackoo> genii-around: where to set this ?
[19:25] <Moreece> I'd really appreciate some help
[19:25] <Moreece> else I'll have to move away from ubuntu
[19:26] <adamk_> Moreece, "intel pro 100 wifi nics" makes no sense.   intel pro 100 cards are wired, not wireless.
[19:26] <genii-around> hackoo: For one  boot only, edit the line in grub and add it to the end. For permanent, put in /etc/default/grub the line:  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="usbcore.autosuspend=0"       save, and then do: sudo update-grub
[19:27] <Moreece> ah ... my bad 3945abg
[19:27] <hackoo> genii-around: ok. got it. Thanks.
[19:27] <A1Recon> Jordan_U thanks!! Hey do I have to enable swap space?
[19:27] <A1Recon> Or can I enable it later on,
[19:28] <genii-around> hackoo: You're welcome. Please let us know if this works.
[19:28] <Biafra> I use fglrx with my AMD GPU, and I just installed a kernel update. Do I have to reinstall fglrx
[19:28] <Biafra> ?
[19:28] <WILLdude> Is there any way to stop my laptop from turning off a connected screen when I close the lid?
[19:28] <adamk_> Moreece, That makes more sense.  I've only used one laptop with an intel wireless nic, and didn't have that particular problem, so I'm not sure there's much I can contribute.  All I can suggest is manually generating a wpa_supplicant.conf file and then  trying to run wpa_supplicant from a terminal and seeing if there are any errors.
[19:28] <WILLdude> *turning off the signal to
[19:29] <adamk_> Biafra, If you installed fglrx using the version packaged for Ubuntu, from the standard repo, then no.
[19:29] <Jordan_U> A1Recon: If you want to be able to suspend to disk (hibernate) then you need as much swap as you have RAM. You can either make a swap partition or use a swap file. You can add a swap file later on, though that requires manual editing of /etc/fstab.
[19:29] <WILLdude> I've set closing the lid to do nothing.
[19:29] <Tawnee> so... I managed to bork my ubuntu install when I lost power during an update of some sort... Is there anything I should do before reinstalling over it to make sure everything is happy and clean?
[19:29] <A_J> can someone help me install a program i have two file( for two diffrent programs) a tar.gz and a .rpm
[19:29] <Specialist> I just upgraded a Kubuntu 8.04 installation to 12.04 LTS and apparently something went wrong when creting the runlevel symlinks in /etc/rc.x. Is there an easy way to regenerate these?
[19:29] <WILLdude> I want to close the lid and keep the second screen working.
[19:29] <Biafra> adamk_, I did not (Primarily due to issues from Steam). However, the kernel version appears to be unchanged
[19:29] <Norx> anyone know how to set catalyst control center to keep overscan from resetting?
[19:29] <WILLdude> Is there ny way to do that?
[19:30] <WILLdude> *any
[19:30] <Biafra> do I need to reinstall?
[19:30] <hackoo> genii-around: Yes sure.. One more issue.. Every time I want to plug my USB modem, I need to do "modeprobe usbserial" and "modprobe option"  otherwise it do not get detected and not shown in network.  Is there a way so that I don't need to do this and my USB modem get detected just after plugging in.
[19:30] <Jordan_U> Tawnee: Check that the hardware itself is fine (you can check the SMART status of the drive). Other than that, a re-install is a re-install (What used to be there doesn't matter).
[19:30] <adamk_> Biafra, Well check if acceleration is working.  If it is, you don't need to reinstall fglrx.  If it's not, then you need to reinstall fglrx.
[19:30] <WILLdude> So why does my monitor stop when the lid closes?????
[19:31] <Specialist> s/8.04/10.04/
[19:31] <Tawnee> Jordan_U, thanks
[19:32] <genii-around> hackoo: The proper way would be to write an udev rule for this and then put it in /etc/udev/rules.d/
[19:32] <WILLdude> Can anyone answer?
[19:33] <jhutchins_wk> WILLdude: Because the keyboard's in the way?
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> !patience | WILLdude
[19:34] <Liam-> WILLdude: i doubt there is any way to keep the secondary screen on if the first is turned off via the host screen
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> WILLdude, Default the home sreen to the ecternal and turn off the internal and you can close the lid.
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> s/screen/external
[19:35] <hackoo> genii-around: it seems advance thing to me.. Writing udev rules. Is there some doc which I can refer to learn this and solve my issue. Learning and solving issue on own would be very interesting for me.
[19:37] <A1Recon> Jordan_U It's installing!!! YAY!!
[19:37] <vinceve_> hi
[19:37] <genii-around> hackoo: There is a little bit old example for always making a certain USB hard drive be the same device ( like always /dev/sdb no matter what USB port you plug it into for example) , it can be used for learning: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221
[19:37] <vinceve_> Does someone has experience with amd cards that are overheating ?
[19:38] <Biafra> okay, looks like the it worked without reinstalling fglrx, adamk_
[19:38] <Biafra> at least so far
[19:38] <Biafra> had to reboot though to test it out.
[19:38] <adamk_> Biafra, Yeah, if the kernel version stayed the same, I'd expect it to be fine, but couldn't be sure.
[19:38] <hackoo> genii-around: ok. that is good.
[19:39] <vinceve_> Does someone has experience with amd cards that are overheating ? (HD5400 series)
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> vinceve_, The channel works with actually explaining the problem in details.
[19:40] <brian____> I don't remember who told me that it was easier to buy a supported wireless card instead of messing with the ones I had available.  But it couldn't have been more true, I wish I would have asked for help.  The new card took longer putting it into the machine then to configure.
[19:40] <deadweasel> I'm back.  I have done a full remove and reinstall of latest fglrx 13.4.  I have removed and reinstalled Xorg.  I have configured both.     fglrxinfo gives me: Error: unable to open display (null)
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> brian____, I know I said that.
[19:40] <adamk_> deadweasel, Are you running that command as root?
[19:40] <deadweasel> #ati has not been able to help me
[19:40] <fireun> when a version number in a package looks like 1.1.7+2.0.0-1, does that mean it is version 1.1.7 but patched? or what?
[19:40] <deadweasel> adamk_: no
[19:41] <deadweasel> root does not have access
[19:41] <vinceve_> Ok, I did a clean install of ubuntu 13.04, my fans are running really hard and my pc turned off a few times because it was overheated
[19:41] <deadweasel> adamk_: I did full update and dist-upgrade too.
[19:41] <adamk_> deadweasel, So you are running that in a terminal window, in X, as the same user who owns the X session?
[19:41] <vinceve_> I tried installing the catalyst drivers from amd itself
[19:42] <moza> hello
[19:42] <vinceve_> that fixed the problem "a bit" but I'm still running in idle mode around the 70, 75 degrees.
[19:42] <moza> are there any known problems with ubuntu and multiple RAM sticks?
[19:43] <deadweasel> adamk_: it's possible....
[19:43] <deadweasel> if x session is running, I'm ssh ed in right now from work
[19:43] <deadweasel> lightdm is a running process...
[19:43] <deadweasel> shit, maybe it works now and I just can't see it
[19:43] <deadweasel> i'll let you know in 45 mintues when I get home
[19:43] <adamk_> deadweasel, You didn't say you were ssh'ed in :-)
[19:44] <adamk_> deadweasel, Run 'DISPLAY=:0 fglrxinfo'
[19:44] <adamk_> vinceve_, Clean the fans :-)
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> deadweasel, Please keep the language clean. ;)
[19:44] <vinceve_> adamk, they are clean, I checked it
[19:44] <deadweasel> adamk_: No protocol specified
[19:44] <deadweasel> No protocol specified
[19:44] <deadweasel> Error: unable to open display (null)
[19:44] <deadweasel> wilee-nilee: pardon me!
[19:45] <brian____> wilee-nilee, well thanks, I got the asus pce-n10 and it works great.  Except for some random 1000ms pings, which I honestly don't care about.
[19:45] <riddrib> how can make money ?
[19:45] <edrisse> @adamk : nice command , I did not know it
[19:45] <edrisse> thanks
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> !ot > riddrib
[19:45] <vinceve_> adamk_ also on windows, my laptop doesn't have that problem
[19:46] <riddrib> how do that?
[19:46] <adamk_> deadweasel, Yeah, then check when you get home :-)
[19:46] <edrisse> @vinceve : we are on the Ubuntu channel
[19:46] <onr> just installed gnome 3.8, it's the most horrible thing i've ever seen on a computer.
[19:46] <edrisse> switch to XFCE
[19:46] <Norx> amen
[19:46] <edrisse> it will change your life
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> onr, Not a stock installed and not supported.
[19:47] <deadweasel> adamk_: Thank you...  you have given me much of your time.  I appreciate it.
[19:47] <adamk_> vinceve_, I'm not familiar with fan and power management with with radeon GPUs.  I just let mine run at whatever temperature they run at, but perhaps there is an option somewhere in the AMD catalyst control center to adjust the fan speed or GPU clockspeed.
[19:47] <thomedy> if i make download blender and untar it in /usr/lib
[19:47] <thomedy> will i get that neat icon that goes in the sidebar
[19:47] <thomedy> im on 12.04
[19:47] <vinceve_> @adamk_ I'll check it out
[19:48] <k1l> thomedy: not by untar'ing it into the folder only
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> thomedy, Hard to sayyou can make a launcher though and put it there.
[19:48] <thomedy> how do i get that icon... i like it
[19:48] <thomedy> doesn't launcher only giv e you a springgy icon though
[19:48] <thomedy> can you change that icon
[19:48] <k1l> thomedy: mke it yourself, or use a official install or a PPA or a .deb
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> !enter > thomedy
[19:49] <ChogyDan> thomedy: try a ppa: https://launchpad.net/~irie/+archive/blender
[19:49] <k1l> thomedy: blender is in the repos, why not install that?
[19:49] <k1l> !find blender
[19:49] <TheEpTic> !find htop
[19:50] <TheEpTic> !find tcl
[19:50] <vinceve_> @adamk_ nothing found there :(
[19:50] <thomedy> well i went to the blender room and they said get the download from blender .org and thats it... also i have the one from the wharehow or whatever icon is on the right wher eyou download software but it doens't defaault to a cycles render engin which is fine but i want that and its old
 thomedy: mke it yourself, or use a official install or a PPA or a .deb
[19:50] <Safa_[A_boy]> hi all, how can I install sun-java6-jdk ?
[19:51] <Safa_[A_boy]> on Ubuntu 12.04, 32 bit
[19:51] <vinceve_> I also tried researching the problem and it seems that there are a lot of troubles with AMD mobility HD5xxx series.
[19:51] <thomedy> Safa_[A_boy], sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[19:51] <thomedy> thast your best bet
[19:51] <schultza> i have a printer server running cups 1.4.4 and i have another computer that i just upgraded to 13.04 64 bit. It is not seeing any printers. It doesnt even seem to scan for printers, ie: immediate response "no printers'.
[19:51] <neo1691> Safa_[A_boy]: Have you tried downloading the deb from the official website?
[19:51] <k1l> thomedy: sun java is not in the repos anymore
[19:51] <thomedy> but im no pro so if im wrong someonecan correct me
[19:51] <Safa_[A_boy]> no
[19:51] <thomedy> is it not
[19:51] <thomedy> bummer
[19:51] <Safa_[A_boy]> Package sun-java6-jdk is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[19:52] <schultza> all other computers are able to see printers from cups 1.4.4
[19:52] <basss> hello, how can i install ubuntu from another linux distibution without a usb or cd ?
[19:52] <thomedy> okay .deb is dpkg right
[19:52] <schultza> basss, try network boot?
[19:52] <k1l> Safa_[A_boy]: ubuntu was forbidden to deliver it anymore. so its not in the repos. so get it from java itself
[19:52] <wilee-nilee> Safa_[A_boy], Take your pick. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=&bih=&q=12.04+install+sun-java6-jdk&gbv=1&nfpr=&spell=1&sa=X&ei=ORWEUciHF-H6iwLdpYDgAg&ved=0CB4QvwU
[19:52] <basss> schultza: how does it work ?
[19:52] <Dr_willis> basss,  'debootstrap' is one way. but its not trivial.
[19:53] <Bray90820_> is there an Amazon MP3 plugin for Rhythmbox
[19:53] <vinceve_> Safa
[19:53] <vinceve_> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu precise main" sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer oracle-java7-set-default
[19:53] <riddrib> ready have the blender
[19:53] <schultza> basss, you'll need a tftp, dhcp configured correctly and pxelinux...
[19:53] <Dr_willis> !java | Safa_[A_boy]
[19:53] <schultza> be back
[19:53] <vinceve_> in that repository of webupdate they have the java
[19:53] <basss> Dr_willis ill check it out
[19:54] <basss> schultza sounds pretty complex
[19:55] <KeyboardNotFound> I trying to create link (ln) but i have this error: hard link not allowed for directory
[19:55] <thomedy> hard links only work on files
[19:55] <thomedy> ln -s
[19:56] <thomedy>  for a directory
[19:56] <thomedy> if yo uneed it
[19:56] <FloodBot1> thomedy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:56] <thomedy> damnit im sorry i really dont mean to its a habit
[19:57] <Ownix> I have selected my server to be a "Virtual Machine Host" what do I need to do as far as configuration after the server boots for the first time? Does it come with ubuntu-vm-builder or virt-veiwer?
[19:59] <Bray90820> I'm sorry but anyone who is cisco certified should know what samba is
[19:59] <schultza> basss, it is
[19:59] <schultza> i have a printer server running cups 1.4.4 and i have another computer that i just upgraded to 13.04 64 bit. It is not seeing any printers. It doesnt even seem to scan for printers, ie: immediate response "no printers'. all other computers are able to find printers shared by cups 1.4.4
[19:59] <basss> schultza i found this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[20:00] <jrib> KeyboardNotFound: the error is self-explanatory. Maybe you want to use a symbolic link instead?
[20:00] <KeyboardNotFound> problem solved, thank you very much
[20:00] <vinceve_> Ok, I did a clean install of ubuntu 13.04, my fans are running really hard and my pc turned off a few times because it was overheated7
[20:00] <Ownix> thats weird...
[20:00] <schultza> basss, that doesnt seem as complex as my option at first.. and my option requires two computers
[20:01] <vinceve_> I tried installing the catalyst drivers from amd itself
[20:01] <vinceve_> that fixed the problem "a bit" but I'm still running in idle mode around the 70, 75 degrees.
[20:02] <brian____> vinceve_, you've verified that in some other OS that it has a healthy idle temp?
[20:02] <vinceve_> yes, in windows it's around 40 to 50 degrees
[20:03] <Ownix> I selected Virtual Machine Host from the Ubuntu installer, I have now booted into the OS and I do not see the group "libvirtd" does this mean something is wrong
[20:03] <Ownix> ?
[20:04] <vinceve_> @brian___ any other ideas per accident ? :)
[20:05] <thomedy> okay screw blender .org
[20:05] <thomedy> the file suffix is bz2
[20:05] <thomedy> and i tar -xf 'd it and it says it snot bzip2
[20:05] <Dr_willis> !info unp
[20:05] <thomedy> so ill  do that ppa thing
[20:05] <Dr_willis> i dont think -xf is right for a  bz2
[20:06] <Dr_willis> unp whatever.bz2     should work
[20:06] <jrib> Dr_willis: it's j but tar is smart enough now to not need j specified
[20:06] <thomedy> oh thats what google told me cuz i usualy us gz
[20:06] <thomedy> okay iill check unp
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, I have never seen that option, can you give complete details and your goals here.
[20:07] <brian____> vinceve_, No sorry.  I was just trying to make sure it wasnt the card and with the drivers you don't have many options.  It does seem strange that going from the repo to amd drivers you saw any drop in temp.  What happens if you purge all of the AMD stuff, I know you wont be able to get temp easily, but you might be able to hear the fans.
[20:08] <thomedy> unp right? i tried to man it i didn't have a man then i tried sudo apt-get install unp and nothing happend i jus tupgraded to 12.04 so i dontknow if its in 12.04 default
[20:08] <vinceve_> @brian__ I'm fairly new to linux, how can I purge it ? uninstall the dpkg's ?
[20:08] <Dr_willis> unp is the package name. the bot just said so.
[20:09] <Ownix> wilee-nilee: http://refugeeks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Ubuntu-Roles.png
[20:09] <Ownix> wilee-nilee: mre specifically http://i.imgur.com/dE4x9ab.png
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, That is a net install what is your goal here?
[20:10] <brian____> vinceve_, -  'sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx-amdcccle'
[20:10] <vinceve_> ok thanks
[20:11] <brian____> actually, you said you're usind them from AMD
[20:11] <vinceve_> I downloaded them from there website, build the dpkg's and installed them
[20:12] <Biafra> hmmm... is it just me, or is flash a little faster than usual
[20:12] <Ownix> wilee-nilee: I would like my Ubuntu Server install to be a virtual machine host running KVM. I would like to know what additional packages i will need and addition configuration i will need to do after installing Ubuntu 12.04 Server edition with the "Virtual Machine Host" networking software selection  install option selected.
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, you would boot that iso in the virtual then and install.
[20:12] <vinceve_> ok brian, I uninstalled them
[20:12] <riddrib> how can help to installing?
[20:12] <vinceve_> Now probably a reboot ? :)
[20:13] <Biafra> okay, it seems to be pretty much all video in chrome...
[20:13] <thomedy> nm... i had what i thought ws the download link it took me to a differn tpage
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, I'm not familiar with the "Virtual Machine Host" networking software.
[20:14] <Ownix> wilee-nilee:  does Virtual Machine Host not mean Parent for child virtual machines?
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> Ownix, I don't know.
[20:14] <Biafra> anyone know why that is? I go and listen to Gordon Ramsey over Hulu and he sounds like he's on helium
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> maybe he is
[20:15] <Biafra> not in this video
[20:16] <Biafra> I think Chrome has an issue with video or something
[20:16] <vinceve> @brian___ how can I check the temp now ?
[20:16] <vinceve> I purged them :)
[20:16] <Ownix> what is the difference between apt-get dist upgrade and do-release-upgrade?
[20:16] <benw909909> hi all - just gearing up for installing a 2nd HDD to my win7 tower for 12.04 dual-boot. I am planning the partition scheme: Given its 1TB 2nd drive, I'm wondering if its OK to have an NTFS partition of say 400Gb for the windows Os and Ubuntu to share?
[20:16] <adamk_> Biafra, Is it using flash?
[20:17] <Biafra> the hulu video is, the youtube one is not
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> benw909909, A shred NTFS is a good thing.
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> shared*
[20:18] <pr0t> I have a Lenovo toga 13 and just upgraded to unbuntu 13.04 and now the wifi doesn't work at all does anyone know of a fix for this?
[20:18] <anew_> http://pastebin.com/bng120t9 anyone know if these firewall rules block remote access to mysql ?
[20:18] <genii-around> wilee-nilee: I tend to think that wasn't a typo
[20:18] <frankbro> Anyone know if theres a workaround for jockey/additional driver problem involving "ImportError: No module named NvidiaDetector.nvidiadetector". I have no nvidia hardware in my machine ...
[20:18] <Biafra> yep, definitely a chrome issue (firefox doesn't cause it)
[20:19] <guntbert> Ownix: only do-release-upgrade takes you to the next Ubuntu version, dist-upgrade is nearly the same as upgrade but does install additional packages too
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> genii-around, fanboi huh.
[20:19] <thomedy> all better
[20:19] <benw909909> I will install Ubuntu 12.04 in recommended partitions /, /home /swap for Ubu of maybe 600GB total but the other 400gn would be somewhat wasted: best use would be NTFS the Primary Windows (dumb OS) can read whereas I know with ntfs addon 12.04 will be Ok to use that NTFS partition. Should I wait til 12.04 is installed on start of new drive and add the NTFS shared partition afterwards in the Free Space - or shoudl I setup ALL parts at inst
[20:20] <Biafra> okay, found the solution to that in chrome (was a conflict with the Pepper and NPAPI plugins)
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> benw909909, ubuntu will see the NTFS share install it when you want.
[20:21] <Ownix> guntbert: so to do a full update id do: apt-get update, do-release-upgrade, apt-get-update, apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:22] <uvala> hi everyone, something very new just happened. the computer was doing only file transfer between drives and playing a video. suddenly a full command line screen appeared, which had a line at the top with Windbid or similar in it, while the mouse froze and a shrill constant sound came.  So sounds like I'll install the 12.04 on crisp new 2nd drive and just leave 400gb Unallocated. Then once 12.04 boots OK then I can partitiont he remaining space as NTFS and both OS's will be able to use it. great Wilee I'm ready...cant wait! Thanks
[20:22] <vinceve> Hey, I installed ubuntu 13.04 on a dell inspiron 5010 with an AMD 5400 mobility video card. The problem now is that my notebook overheats constantly even idle it's running around 70 degrees.
[20:23] <dkettman_> Question: Is it possible to use a VirtualBox guest as someone's shell upon login?
[20:23] <benzrf> hello!
[20:23] <benzrf> I restarted my computer after it started acting out on the off chance that it might help, and all of a sudden I have two problems:
[20:23] <dkettman_> Reason: My wife is just more comfortable in Windows and I would like to have a Windows VM come up when she logs in as her user.
[20:23] <benzrf> 1. My sound doesn't seem to work
[20:23] <benzrf> 2. Unity is absurdly laggy
[20:23] <benzrf> I have quantal
[20:23] <Ownix> dkettman_:  what are you asking? You have an SSH sever running on the guest? just give them that Guests IP address
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> uvala, Not with that description, to broad and no real details.
[20:24] <guntbert> Ownix: not quite: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade (maybe apt-get dist-upgrade); THEN do-release-upgrade; apt-get update, apt-get upgrade (maybe (if there are packages left) apt-get dist-upgrade)
[20:24] <Ownix> guntbert:  makes sense
[20:24] <diamonds> what are all these /lib/modules/n.n.n-nn-generic files?
[20:25] <diamonds> do I need them all?
[20:25] <diamonds> my / is filling up :/
[20:25] <diamonds> I need to resize it but for now I'm trying to clean it up
[20:25] <diamonds> i didn't realize how much went in / (not /home)
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> dkettman_, Why are you just not dualbooting it?
[20:25] <benzrf> help D:
[20:25] <giorgos79> eine frei fraü bitte..................
[20:25] <bekks> diamonds: You could remove old kernels, which will remove those old files too.
[20:25] <dkettman_> No, On the machine, the Host OS is Ubuntu 13.04
[20:25] <uvala> wilee-nilee, I dont know how to take a screenshot when all is frozen. at least is it ever heard of? out of nothing this black screen full with command lines up to down appeared, the laptop screaming
[20:26] <guntbert> !patience | benzrf
[20:26] <diamonds> bekks, how do I go about doing that?
 finally one more query: what partition scheme do you recommend for my 2nd HDD with 12.04 dual-boot (remembering I need one primary NTFS for the above). I underatnd I can have 4 primary total - think default is One Primary and 3 logical for Ubuntu...should I follow that or use more Primaries?
[20:26] <dkettman_> wilee-nilee, Because I want to keep it up so I can SSH in and do work on whatever programming what-not I'm doing...
[20:26] <tasha> Hello, I was wondering if I could get someone to help me figure out how to get skype to work on my ubuntu 13.04 64 bit install.
[20:26] <dkettman_> If it isnt possible, then I will just make an icon for the wife to click on, but would be nicer if I could have her just login and it come up as Windows.
[20:26] <bekks> diamonds: You could use synaptic or the software center to remove old kernels.
[20:27] <diamonds> bekks, thank you
[20:27] <diamonds> bekks, does this look legit? http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> benw909909, Personally I put ubuntu in one partition and a swap, all in an extended partition, I have 4 OS right now on one HD.
[20:27] <diamonds> oh nm I don't use dpgk
[20:27] <guntbert> !de  | giorgos79
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> benw909909, Some like a separate home, I don't need that myself.
[20:27] <uvala> wilee-nilee, the video was downloaded from youtube, thus it makes me think of a virus attack. specially when I get anti-virus updates right after it.
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> uvala, Ubuntu and antivirus makes no sense, what have you installed?
[20:28] <diamonds> I don't have something called "kernel" installed according to the software center
[20:28] <bekks> diamonds: The packages are names linux-
[20:28] <tasha> no ideas on how to fix skype in ubuntu 13.04 64 bit?
[20:28] <bekks> diamonds: The packages are names linux-*
 great pal ta - I'll just follows its recommendations of One Primary and rest extended/logical. I did read it really works fine with all extended as you say though some "theoretical" guides warn against ie people who claim they know but havent actually lived with it much. Whereas you sound like you KNOW it will work as you ARE using it already that way. Thanks again..
[20:29] <genii-around> diamonds: The kernel packages are named like  linux-image-<some-kernel-version-here>
[20:30] <uvala> I installed nothing except from repositories. only two days ago I installed Blender's latest version, since it was newer than the repo one. aside from that, I downloaded the referred youtube video a few hours ago. In the first time I was watching it, this happened.
[20:30] <uvala> wilee-nilee, I installed nothing except from repositories. only two days ago I installed Blender's latest version, since it was newer than the repo one. aside from that, I downloaded the referred youtube video a few hours ago. In the first time I was watching it, this happened.
[20:31] <wilee-nilee> benw909909, I have W8 and its boot partition as primaries, and 12.10, 13.04, 13.10 in an extended with one swap. Ubuntu will run in a extended completely, the exteneded just allows for more logical partitions then primaries.
[20:31] <schultza> ok.. fixed my cups 1.4.4 to cups 1.6.x problem
[20:31] <Revo-F> tasha, try to find something here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
 sorted:)
[20:31] <diamonds> bekks, hmm... am I looking in the right place? http://i.imgur.com/tXDbWUz.png genii-around
[20:31] <louisdk> I'm trying to play 720p video over nfs on local network via lan but it lacks. Any tips on debugging?
[20:32] <schultza> for those that want to know, check your /etc/cups/cups-browsed.conf (and dont forget to restart the service "cups-browsed")
[20:33] <diamonds> bekks, genii-around will this find it? `apt-cache search --installed linux-image`
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> uvala, I have no exsperience with blender, I just noticed that your description is slightly nonsensical without exacting details. AV in ubuntu can be installed you have no mention of if you have or any real specificities, we can't read your mind.
[20:33] <diamonds> shows quite a few packies...
[20:33] <Biomechd> hey guys, i'm trying to mount my mom's android phone to my laptop so i can put files on it when she needs me to, but i'm not sure what my vendor id is in lsusb.
[20:33] <bekks> diamonds: dpkg -l linux-image shoudl show you all packages named like that
[20:34] <Biomechd> uvala: what's your blender question? i'm a blender user, too.
[20:34] <diamonds> bekks, that gives me an error
[20:34] <diamonds> bekks, http://hastebin.com/gehesacumo.vbs
[20:34] <diamonds> I think I have found the packs with apt-cache
[20:35] <diamonds> now to remove... I can remove all but highest number? (linux-image-3.2.0-41-lowlatency-pae - Linux kernel image for version 3.2.0 on x86)
[20:35] <Jordan_U> Biomechd: You shouldn't need to know anything about the vendor id. Is the phone configured to share files when connected via USB? If so, through what method? When you plug the phone in does it appear as a device in Nautilus (the GUI file manager)?
[20:35] <diamonds> welll I need the _64 one
[20:35] <diamonds> so remove all !_64 and < packagenumber.greatest
[20:35] <diamonds> s/and/or/
[20:36] <uvala> wilee-nilee, it is a fact that I get antivirus updates, I can put a screenshot here if you like. Aside from the initial problem, I dont know what I am supposed to do with a unix antivirus update that appears and yet warns me that it is not authenticated. it will do if I know the answer to this part
[20:36] <Biomechd> Jordan_U: the thing i was following said to install mtpfs and get the vendor id and such. i told it to enable usb debugging and also told it to act as a usb mass storage device.
[20:36] <bekks> diamonds: You generally want to remove all of them, but the one which is currently in use - check uname -r to get the currently used version.
[20:36] <guntbert> diamonds: not everything apt-cache shows is installed if I remember correctly
[20:37] <benzrf> 1. my sound doesn't work; 2. unity is so laggy it's painful to use. Could it be possible that my sound and graphics cards are somehow unavailable? I think I might have accidentally partially upgraded to raring...
[20:37] <diamonds> guntbert, well I used --installed with apt-cache search...
[20:37] <uvala> Biomechd, thank you, the current question is not directly about blender. I got some antivirus updates for unix right after a strange screen freezing-interruption happened. I was telling about what I recently installed. it was the latest blender.
[20:37] <diamonds> I didn't check that it worked tho ;)
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> benzrf, "partially upgraded to raring"?
[20:38] <diamonds> haha... apt-cache gtfo.  guntbert http://hastebin.com/givifigile.sm
[20:38] <benzrf> I think I started the script and then ctrl+c'd
[20:38] <benzrf> idk
[20:38] <guntbert> diamonds: in that case you are ahead of me :)
[20:38] <Biomechd> uvala: i highly doubt blender had anything to do with it, unless you got an unofficial build, like from graphicall or a torrent somewhere. graphicall and torrent builds are developed by community members.
[20:39] <diamonds> guntbert, doesn't appear to do anything ^
[20:39] <Jordan_U> Biomechd: If you configured it to act as USB Mass Storage then you don't need mtpfs (as that's for MTP), and in both USBMS mode and MTP mode the device should show up in nautilus when plugged in. When in USBMS mode it should also show up if you run "sudo blkid", and you should be able to mount it via the terminal just like any other partition on a USB drive.
[20:39] <benzrf> all I know is, it tells me to upgrade when I log in on one of the other viewports, but when I run the script it says I'm uptodate
[20:40] <diamonds> is there a 1-click way to clean up these old kernels?
[20:40] <uvala> Biomechd, I also dont think it is Blender. I've downloaded it 2-3 days ago, and nothing happened since. On the contrary, I was watching the first time a youtube video that I downloaded a few hours ago, and the screen turned to a torrent of command lines while the machine started non-stop squeaking.
[20:41] <diamonds> obv. it would be ridiculously bad UX for every user to have to go thru the process I did to keep their computer from filling up with useless old kernels
[20:41] <guntbert> diamonds: no 1-click way, I use aptitude search linux-* |grep "^i" to search for installed linux packages only
[20:41] <diamonds> hrm...
[20:42] <benzrf> this sux
[20:42] <diamonds> what's the workflow for non-terminal users ("regular folks" who had a friend set them up with ubuntu, the "easy to use" linux)
[20:42] <bekks> diamonds: dpkg -l | ... -- basically like the approach you posted but didnt want to use.
[20:42] <diamonds> bekks, oh I'm happy to use it.  I thought dpkg was another package manager :p
[20:42] <Biomechd> Jordan_U: how do i know which thing in blkid is the phone? the only thing that's obvious is "system_drv" and "windows7_os"
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> diamonds, Ubuntu tweak can do it with the janitor, honestly it is not that hard if you know how to.
[20:42] <bekks> diamonds: dpkg is the package manager. apt is just a frontend. :P
[20:42] <diamonds> wilee-nilee, what is the janitor?
[20:42] <guntbert> diamonds: compared with the rest of the system the old kernels don't amount much :-)
[20:43] <diamonds> guntbert, well... I had ~1.5GB of old kernels
[20:43] <diamonds> is there any utility in storing these for 99% of users?
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> diamonds, You focused on janotor, not that t s inside ubuntu tweak.
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> it is*
[20:43] <Jordan_U> Biomechd: It will be a vfat fileystem for one. Please pastebin the output of "blkid" and also of "dmesg".
[20:43] <onr> so, xubuntu is just awesome
[20:44] <diamonds> wilee-nilee, oh "ubuntu tweak" is the name of the software?
[20:44] <diamonds> sry I didn't recognize it
[20:44] <uvala> ok, cleaning the slate, concise and reformulated: what am I supposed to do with an update manager that contains 4 anti-virus updates for Unix, and warns me that they are not authenticated? install them? ignore them?
[20:44] <diamonds> I'll give it a whirl
[20:44] <Biomechd> Jordan_U: the only "vfat" filesystem in the list is my flash drive.
[20:44] <diamonds> shiiiiit
[20:45] <diamonds>  sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2.0-3*
[20:45] <diamonds> somehow this removed the latest one (/lib/modules/3.2.0-41-generic)
[20:45] <bekks> diamonds: Then install the latest again. sudo apt-get install ...
[20:45] <diamonds> bekks, ah thanks
[20:45] <diamonds> but http://hastebin.com/qosuvekuxe.vdl
[20:45] <diamonds> is my bootloader all messed up?
[20:46] <diamonds> do I need all of these or just one: "linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic linux-image-3.2.0-41-lowlatency linux-image-3.2.0-41-virtual rtirq-init"
[20:47] <MySystemIsScrewe> Hey.
[20:47] <MySystemIsScrewe> I have a problem with my system.
[20:47] <diamonds> MySystemIsScrewe, any more info? :)
[20:48] <MySystemIsScrewe> It can't boot into terminal in recovery mode.
[20:49] <MySystemIsScrewe> Nothing is working.
[20:49] <Jordan_U> Biomechd: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" and also of "dmesg".
[20:49] <bekks> !details | MySystemIsScrewe
[20:49] <uvala> any assistance with my problem?
[20:50] <Biomechd> Jordan_U: do you need the "dmseg" output if i've already found the phone listed in it, or can you just tell me how to mount it?
[20:51] <OerHeks> uvala, what antivirus ? what howto did you follow to install them, not authenticated means no trusted key.
[20:51] <Jordan_U> Biomechd: I'd prefer the full output. Any reason not to give it?
[20:51] <uvala> OerHeks, I will put a screenshot, please bear with me
[20:52] <explodes> Hey dudes/dudettes! Where would I find the source of "Keyboard Layout Finder" that you can walkthrough when you install? I'm downloading the whole quantal source repo right now, but where would I start?
[20:52] <MySystemIsScrewe> I am running 12.04, the system can't boot for unknown reasons (Many) and running fsck with the Gparted live cd turnes out fine.
[20:52] <OerHeks> uvala why can't you just name them?
[20:53] <Jordan_U> Biomechd: To mount it you click on the icon that shows up in nautilus, or use the mount command (using the device which showed up in blkid's output). Clearly things aren't working as they should, so we need to figure out what's wrong before we can mount the device.
[20:53] <Biomechd> Jordan_U: well, i noticed that "dmseg" seems to be outputting a lot of the processes that my laptop goes through, and i found where it says "found new usb device" and then starts talking about the phone.
[20:55] <uvala> ok, they are 4 packages, each called anti-virus utility for Unix - commandline interface, base package, virus database update utility, library. when I select "install" then comes the warning with unauthenticated packages that says "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." and the details show: libjs-jquery libnm-gtk-common libnm-gtk0 network-manager-gnome qjackctl
[20:55] <uvala> OerHeks, ok, they are 4 packages, each called anti-virus utility for Unix - commandline interface, base package, virus database update utility, library. when I select "install" then comes the warning with unauthenticated packages that says "The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources." and the details show: libjs-jquery libnm-gtk-common libnm-gtk0 network-manager-gnome qjackctl
[20:55] <MySystemIsScrewe> The booting process get's stuck when it's starts up diffrent services (Earlier when starting brcmsmac, and before that drm) right now when starting the touchpad.
[20:56] <Jordan_U> Biomechd: I'm sorry but I don't have time to try to help you if you won't answer my questions.
[20:56] <ntzrmtthihu777> Jordan_U: question: should there be a /root/.local file?
[20:56] <OerHeks> uvala so where did you get those packages?
[20:57] <OerHeks> uvala lok up the manual for your antivirus and get the key > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[20:57] <OerHeks> c/look
[20:57] <uvala> OerHeks, from nowhere. ubuntu update manager popped up like it does every time.
[20:57] <uvala> OerHeks, and there were these packages in it
[20:57] <uvala> OerHeks, I have no antivirus
[20:58] <OerHeks> uvala then remove those updates
[20:58] <MySystemIsScrewe> Hello?
[20:58] <uvala> OerHeks, I havent installed them yet, how can I remove them?
[20:58] <OerHeks> those come not out of the blue, you must have accepted/installed something
[20:59] <uvala> OerHeks, you mean deselect them?
[20:59] <guntbert> uvala: deselect them in the update
[20:59] <MySystemIsScrewe> Hello????
[20:59] <OerHeks> uvala, yes, and you can remove installed packages later so this won't  return
[20:59] <brian____> I just installed X with nodm and fglrx, when I run startx is immediatly crashes, the entire computer, not just X, and when i reboot the Xorg log has nothing of value, something else I should check?
[20:59] <guntbert> !patience | MySystemIsScrewe
[21:00] <basss> hey everyone, im trying to install ubuntu without usd or cd
[21:00] <ntzrmtthihu777> basss: likely is not gonna happen unless you have grub already.
[21:00] <ubuntuaddicted> basss, you have a floppy?
[21:00] <basss> ntzrmtthihu777 i do have grub already how can i proceed
[21:01] <simpleuser> Hello there. I've got a noob question here. I'd like to use a software like thunderbird to read my mails. The problem is I'm using two computers. Question : Could it be possible to have all my emails on my both computers in a mail software or do I have to use a webmail ?
[21:01] <basss> ubuntuaddicted no
[21:01] <ubuntuaddicted> basss, oh, but you already have grub installed?
[21:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> basss: look for the iso booting guide in the community ubuntu doc
[21:01] <uvala> OerHeks, but why were they listed when I didnt need them? specially when I just had a very strange system interruption?
[21:01] <basss> ubuntuaddicted yes
[21:01] <basss> ntzrmtthihu777 okay i'll check it now
[21:03] <ubuntuaddicted> i remember long ago, i installed with no cd or usb stick. it involves mounting the iso or something like that, was a real pain
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> basss, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[21:04] <benzrf> hello! how can I check what my current sound & video drivers are?
[21:05] <ubuntuaddicted> benzrf, lspci will give you all your pci bus information
[21:05] <benzrf> thanks!
[21:05] <genii-around> ubuntuaddicted: lspci doesn't show what drivers are being used
[21:05] <ubuntuaddicted> benzrf, showing you the controllers names and from there you can sort of guess by looking at the list of modules loaded using lsmod
[21:06] <ubuntuaddicted> genii-around, i know it doesn't read my next comment
[21:06] <benzrf> hm
[21:06] <benzrf> I don't have any sound, what should I check first?
[21:06] <genii-around> benzrf: sudo lshw -C video   for instance will show you the driver in the "capabilities" line
[21:06] <joachimhs> Im trying to install Ubuntu on a Mac Mini, as a single-boot system. I followed the instructions here: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx But when I select the USB disk, it only leads me into grub. Where do I go from here ?
[21:06] <ubuntuaddicted> benzrf, follow what genii-around is telling you. :)
[21:06] <benzrf> ok
[21:07] <Jordan_U> joachimhs: It leads you to a grub shell rather than a grub menu?
[21:07] <tasha> Sorry if anyone answered my question I had to make dinner real quick @.@ so Im going to ask again, not to offend anyone, Does anyone know how to get Skype 4.1 working in Ubuntu 13.04 64 bit running AMD 13.4 proprietary graphics drivers?
[21:08] <benzrf> ok
[21:08] <Nothing_Much> Skype 4.1 actually recently updated tasha
[21:08] <benzrf> um
[21:08] <tasha> how recently?
[21:08] <Nothing_Much> And it works with my Nvidia proprietary drivers now
[21:08] <kairos> Pixels keep dropping and showing the default background in the middle of my screen. http://i.imgur.com/52hpHU7.jpg
[21:08] <Nothing_Much> Just yesterday!
[21:08] <joachimhs> Jordan_U:  Yes… But for some reason the .iso file I downloaded ends with AMD… might be the reason..
[21:08] <benzrf> when I do play <some file>, it shows the normal stuff
[21:08] <genii-around> ubuntuaddicted: For audio device, use -C multimedia
[21:08] <tasha> I think I got an update but it still crashes on launch
[21:08] <benzrf> but nothing comes out of the speakers
[21:08] <Nothing_Much> You might need to restart your PC
[21:08] <benzrf> I've used amixer set 100
[21:08] <uvala> from the description in the update manager, the antivirus update seems having to do with clam antivirus plugin, which I installed a long time ago to the mail program
[21:08] <benzrf> and amixer set on
[21:08] <benzrf> T~T
[21:08] <Nothing_Much> Every PC after a certain amount of updates needs a restartr
[21:09] <Thorby> Hi, quick question.
[21:09] <joachimhs> Its named ubuntu-12.04.2-server-amd64.iso
[21:09] <tasha> Ive rebooted several times since the update.. let me try reinstalling it
[21:09] <benzrf> wait, it's having issues with pulseaudio
[21:09] <Nothing_Much> 13.04, right tasha?
[21:09] <benzrf> yeah that's probably it
[21:09] <ubuntuaddicted> genii-around, thanks. i just forgot about lshw
[21:09] <tasha> Yes
[21:09] <Nothing_Much> Restart
[21:09] <benzrf> is there a reason why pulseaudio would be gone from my system?
[21:09] <Nothing_Much> After an update
[21:09] <Jordan_U> joachimhs: Is it a "grub> " prompt or a "rescue> " prompt?
[21:09] <benzrf> derp
[21:09] <benzrf> ok
[21:09] <tasha> Ive restarted already several times since any updates o.o
[21:09] <joachimhs> Jordan_U:  Its a grub> prompt
[21:10] <Nothing_Much> Pulseaudio, while required for multiple streams and overall convenience, is a bit unstable still
[21:10] <Nothing_Much> Hell, I absolutely NEEDED it, but it kept crashing TF2 everytime I used my microphone
[21:10] <kairos> Pixels keep dropping and showing the default background in the middle of my screen. http://i.imgur.com/52hpHU7.jpg Can anyone help me sort this out? They go away whenever that portion of the screne is refresh (i.e., new window, window movement, etc) but reappear again after a few seconds
[21:10] <kairos> screen* refreshed*
[21:10] <joachimhs> Jordan_U:  I am wondering if this is the correct image: 64-bit Mac (AMD64) server install image
[21:10] <benzrf> ok I installed pulseaudio back, but play still isn't working
[21:11] <Jordan_U> joachimhs: It being "AMD64" is definitely not a problem, intel's 64 bit processors use the "AMD64" architecture (AMD did it first). It being the server image might be a problem.
[21:11] <tasha> I will try reinstalling and rebooting just to be sure be back in a bit
[21:11] <benzrf> I have no sound whatsoever from anything
[21:11] <Nothing_Much> Use "pulseaudio -D"
[21:11] <SanMysterious> hi, does anybody know when the 3.9 kernel will be provided via the update manager in ubuntu 13.04?
[21:11] <Nothing_Much> To start it up
[21:11] <benzrf> probably unrelated, but unity is absurdly laggy also
[21:11] <benzrf> Nothing_Much: tried pulseaudio -D. I got 'daemon startup failed'
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> kairos, Can you run lsb_release -a and post the OS?
[21:12] <joachimhs> Jordan_U:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/ says it is "adjusted to work properly on a mac"
[21:12] <Jordan_U> SanMysterious: Probably never. Kernel versions don't generally increase within Ubuntu versions, except in LTS releases.
[21:12] <kairos> wilee-nilee: Ubuntu 12.04
[21:12] <Nothing_Much> 13.10 might have it
[21:12] <Nothing_Much> benzrf, is libpulse0 installed?
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> kairos, Hard to really tell much from the screenshots at least here.
[21:13] <Jordan_U> joachimhs: Yes, but I don't know if the server image is meant to be bootable via USB via this method.
[21:13] <SanMysterious> Jordan_U: but isn't canonical optimizing the kernel for 13.04: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.9-raring/
[21:13] <benzrf> Nothing_Much: yes
[21:13] <benzrf> also: NOTHING is making ANY sound
[21:13] <joachimhs> Jordan_U:  Ah
[21:13] <kairos> wilee-nilee: The odd thing is, what's showing is Ubuntu's default background. I've never used it.
[21:13] <benzrf> could it be a hardware problem?
[21:13] <Nothing_Much> Logout and login again, if that doesn't help, do a full restart
[21:13] <benzrf> I have
[21:14] <benzrf> several times
[21:14] <joachimhs> Jordan_U:  I will try the mac server image, and if that doesn't work, ill try the desktop image
[21:14] <kairos> benzrf: Is your volume muted?
[21:14] <benzrf> and again, unity is super laggy, I'd like to solve that too
[21:14] <benzrf> kairos: amixer set Master 100
[21:14] <benzrf> amixer set Master on
[21:14]  * benzrf shrugs
[21:14] <kairos> Run alsamixer, make sure nothing's muted
[21:14] <benzrf> ok
[21:15] <Jordan_U> joachimhs: The mac image won't work as it has EFI support removed, and for booting from USB you may need EFI support (depending on the exact model of mac you have).
[21:15] <benzrf> speaker was muted and I turned it on, but there's still no sound
[21:15] <simple-bed> hi
[21:15] <benzrf> trying pcm
[21:15] <Guest73051> hi
[21:15] <kairos> Hi
[21:15] <joachimhs> Jordan_U:  Its the latest Mac Mini
[21:15] <benzrf> nothing
[21:16] <kairos> benzrf: That's all I've got, short of a reboot, which you've said you've done
[21:16] <riddrib> how can learn me programming
[21:16] <Guest73051> any russians7
[21:16] <benzrf> is there a reason that my graphics might suddenly be slow and my sound at the same time?
[21:16] <markfknight> joachimhas:  I think the sever image requires a Unetbootin install to USB, the desktop can be installed from a Pendrive Linux
[21:16] <kairos> benzrf: Can the super user play sounds?
[21:16] <benzrf> let me try
[21:16] <benzrf> kairos: no
[21:16] <kairos> benzrf: Have you went through everything in the sound troubleshooting guide?
[21:16] <benzrf> could my motherboard have been jostled and lost the connection to the graphics and sound cards or something?!
[21:16] <Jordan_U> joachimhs: Are you really going to be using this as a server machine?
[21:16] <markfknight> joachimhas: forget that .. sorry had the same issue with dd on Mac, just used Winodws
[21:17] <benzrf> kairos: I haven't seen it, link?
[21:17] <Jordan_U> lahwran: joachimhs
[21:17] <Jordan_U> Sorry.
[21:17] <pc_magas> Hello the apps for Ubuntu phone can be written in any language I want to as long as I have Qt Frontent?
[21:17] <kairos> benzrf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[21:17] <benzrf> also, I THINK I upgraded to Raring, but it still asks me to do that when I log in...
[21:17] <benzrf> thanks kairos
[21:17] <Guest73051> who can speak at russian7
[21:17] <kairos> guest
[21:17] <kairos> Shit
[21:17] <joachimhs> Jordan_U: Its a test machine :)
[21:18] <Guest73051> what7=)
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> !ru > Guest73051
[21:18] <Pici> !ru | Guest73051
[21:18] <Jordan_U> joachimhs: For testing what?
[21:18] <dabu111> hello, i was trying to get sound on my headphones through line-in, how can do this? unmuting in alsamixer did nothing
[21:18] <Guest73051> th
[21:18] <kairos> Guest73051: Join #ubuntu-ru
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> !language > kairos
[21:18] <joachimhs> Jordan_U: Various Web applications. Its a lot easier to script-install things on a linux box than on a macosx box
[21:18] <kairos> wilee-nilee: Sorry, mate
[21:19] <stat_vi> dabu111: try alsaloop
[21:19] <zykotick9> dabu111: ahhh, line-in isn't output...
[21:20] <markfknight> joachimhs: you could setup a test server with a Virtual Box install of Ubuntu in OSX. Lets you brake it more ;)
[21:20] <joachimhs> markfknight: Yes, I know. But I really wanted to get it installed and bootable right from the machine too :)
[21:20] <dabu111> stat_vi: it says device or resource busy, even after disabling audio completely
[21:21] <kairos> benzrf: Any luck?
[21:21] <benzrf> noe
[21:21] <benzrf> *nope
[21:21] <benzrf> I'm rebooting now that I've installed pulseaudio
[21:21] <benzrf> bbiab
[21:21] <hololight> Question relating to HDMI audio: I was using ubuntu 12.10 on an acer aspire as a media pc in my living room. Was working great (hdmi from the intigrated nvidia 8200 for video and audio). I just upgraded to 13.04 (3 days ago actually) and lost my hdmi sound. The sound device still shows every where I can think to look though.... ideas?
[21:22] <kairos> Pixels keep dropping and showing the default background in the middle of my screen. http://i.imgur.com/52hpHU7.jpg Can anyone help me sort this out? They go away whenever that portion of the screen is refreshed (i.e., new window, window movement, etc) but reappear again after a few seconds
[21:23] <markfknight> joachimhs: have you tries Unetbootin? http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:24] <joachimhs> markfknight:  I havent
[21:25] <benzrf> hello!
[21:25] <markfknight> joachimhs: worth a go :)
[21:25] <benzrf> I'm back and my sound is still broken!
[21:25] <xjkx> I have 3GB of memory. I want to hibernate, do I make 3GB of swap ?
[21:26] <zykotick9> xjkx: 3GB + a little.
[21:26] <xjkx> zykotick9: what if I have 1.5gb then another 1.5 gb ?
[21:26] <benzrf> unity is still amazingly laggy
[21:26] <wendico> lol, do i have to do 6gb+ a little swap if i have 6gb ram and want to hibernate?
[21:26] <benzrf> note: everything was fine until about two hours ago
[21:27] <benzrf> suddenly the machine froze, I forcibly rebooted it, and the problems were there
[21:27] <benzrf> :|
[21:27] <zykotick9> xjkx: ? no idea.  not sure it can be split-up like that, maybe?
[21:27] <kairos> benzrf: What did you install 2 hours ago
[21:27] <benzrf> nothing
[21:27] <benzrf> afaik
[21:27] <benzrf> I might have accidentally run the upgrade script but I don't think so
[21:27] <kairos> Check your logs
[21:27] <kairos> Specifically apt's logs
[21:27] <benzrf> ok
[21:27] <stat_vi> dabu111: Sry, can't help you with that one. Maybe another program is using the capture device?
[21:28] <benzrf> note that /etc/motd is still yelling at me to upgrade
[21:28] <kairos> benzrf: Upgrade then
[21:28] <benzrf> kairos: it says I already am when I try
[21:28] <kairos> well that's weird
[21:28] <kairos> I've seen that problem before, though I can't recall the solution :/
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> wendico, swap equal to ram for hibernate a slight extra swap is generally advised.
[21:29] <benzrf> my apt logs are empty except for sox formats and pulseaudio that I installed about 15 minutes ago
[21:29] <k1l> benzrf: what says "lsb_release -r"?
[21:29] <k1l> benzrf: what does "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" say? please pastebin
[21:29] <benzrf> 13.04
[21:29] <wendico> wilee-nilee: thanks
[21:30] <benzrf> have I mentioned that my graphics are all very slow
[21:30] <kairos> Yes
[21:30] <kairos> Short of hardware failure, I can't imagine a correlation between the two
[21:30] <benzrf> well, they're correlated
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> wendico, No problem. ;)
[21:30] <benzrf> they happened at the same time
[21:30] <benzrf> fine, then both are awful
[21:31] <benzrf> k1l: it's running
[21:31] <A1Recon> I made the Rhythmbox Music Player to go into Party Mode. How do I get out?
[21:31] <wendico> im checking my partitions in order to install alongside windows and i see i have a 100MB primary partition on my laptop as first partition, followed by the windows partition. why do i have this 100MB partition, is it for booting windows 8?
[21:31] <kairos> benzrf: You told me you had upgraded lol
[21:31] <benzrf> no
[21:31] <stat_vi> dabu111: #alsa might be able to help
[21:31] <benzrf> I said I might have
[21:31] <benzrf> I don't know how it got to raring myself
[21:31] <kairos> benzrf: You're right. What you said was it says you are updated when you try to upgrade again
[21:32] <kairos> Apparently you didn't run update
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> wendico, It is the boot partition you probably have a uefi setup be careful and be fully backed up.
[21:32] <kairos> Hopefully this will solve it
[21:32] <benzrf> I started the script but ctrl-c'd when it told me I'd have to reboot
[21:32] <benzrf> can't think of any other instance
[21:32] <hachre> When I log into to Ubuntu my 'gnome-keyring-daemon' is hanging with 100% cpu, when I kill it and manually unlock the Login chain via 'Passwords & Keys' it works... Any way to fix this without deleting the entire keychain and losing all passwords inside?
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> !uefi } wendico
[21:32] <kairos> What does your script include?
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | wendico
[21:32] <kairos> Is it just sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade?
[21:32] <benzrf> no, the official one
[21:32] <benzrf> the one mentioned in /etc/motd
[21:33] <Kamen> Hey anyone can help me? i have a DHCP server with a router DHCP
[21:33] <benzrf> do-release-upgrade
[21:33] <kairos> Ah
[21:33] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee I did it. Ubuntu is running!! Thanks for your help
[21:33] <k1l> benzrf: show the output
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, Cool, enjoy. ;)
[21:33] <benzrf> it's still running
[21:33] <benzrf> >_>
[21:33] <k1l> benzrf: and abborting a do-release-upgrade is just "not so clever"
[21:33] <benzrf> no
[21:33] <benzrf> I did it before it started
[21:33] <benzrf> afaik
[21:34] <Kamen> I need help anyone?
[21:34] <benzrf> yeah Kamen?
[21:34] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee I set the rhythmbox music player into party mode .... how do I set it to its normal mode
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> !help > Kamen
[21:34] <benzrf> eh heh
[21:35] <benzrf> where does Adjective Animal come from?
[21:35] <Kamen> ok i see it :D tnx ubottu
[21:35] <kairos> Kamen: Ubottu's a bot
[21:35] <benzrf> uBOTtu
[21:35] <wendico> im reading uefi
[21:36] <benzrf> what do
[21:36] <johnjohn101> so glad i'm running ubuntu. it's the best
[21:36] <benzrf> I think it's froze
[21:36] <kairos> benzrf: Unlikely
[21:36] <benzrf> it's just sitting at 'reading package lists... done'
[21:36] <A1Recon> I set the rhythmbox music player to party mode.....how do I bring it back to normal....
[21:36] <A1Recon> ???
[21:36] <johnjohn101> do most ppa's do their own compiles and then package with checkinstall?
[21:37] <Dr_willis> You really DONT want to use checkinstall for packages you will be disrtibuting
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> johnjohn101, never seen a chk install from a ppa
[21:37] <k1l> benzrf: wait
[21:37] <benzrf> :C
[21:37] <kairos> benzrf: Leave it be
[21:37] <benzrf> foo
[21:37] <kairos> benzrf: It'll either error out or finish
[21:37] <Dr_willis> !checkinstall
[21:37] <benzrf> aww
[21:38] <Aww> benzrf, you say 'aww' more then anyone else on the network :P
[21:38] <benzrf> it's your fault for picking such a pingable name
[21:38] <benzrf> good lord
[21:38] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: is this the best way to create a package? or are there other techniques?
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> A1Recon, Not sure with rhythmbox I never use it.
[21:38] <kairos> Aww: Have you stopped the email notifications yet? XD
[21:38] <benzrf> it's like setting your nick to 'return' on a programming channel
[21:38] <Dr_willis> johnjohn101,  ive rarely needed to make a package. If you want people to use what you are building, then you really should be using the PPA system
[21:38] <A1Recon> Wilee-nilee K
[21:38] <Aww> kairos, I turn it off when I'm here :P
[21:39] <benzrf> it's still sitting...
[21:39] <johnjohn101> i'm starting to see flaws in the package and ppa system.
[21:39] <benzrf> ;~;
[21:39] <benzrf> oh wait
[21:39] <Aww> benzrf, I picked this nick to get pinged an insane amount of times :)
[21:39] <benzrf> it was done all along
[21:39] <kairos> This oughta be good. johnjohn101 What's that?
[21:39] <benzrf> and the prompt wasn't showing
[21:39] <k1l> benzrf: show some patience
[21:39]  * benzrf flips a table or two
[21:39] <kairos> benzrf: ...
[21:39] <FloodBot1> benzrf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:39] <kairos> You scrolled up, benzrf ? :P
[21:40] <benzrf> no
[21:40] <benzrf> oh I see the issue
[21:40] <wendico> uff this uefi mode looks complicated, if i have my windows 8 cd and my ubuntu cd, may i just erase all the partitions and install both windows and ubuntu in non uefi mode? or that uefi mode is a must for my laptop?
[21:40] <benzrf> I piped it into a file, but stderr (I assume) was showing up
[21:40] <benzrf> so the prompt was there all along but it got overwritten by the output
[21:40] <k1l> !enter | benzrf
[21:40] <benzrf> D:<
[21:40] <Guest38880> Any ideas or updates, on the problem of having slow nautilus when home partition has >6000 Files? I did fresh install twice and repartitioned my system once and still the problem appears when I have over 6000 files.
[21:40] <benzrf> see yall later, restarting
[21:41] <johnjohn101> kairos: my example is curl.  there is an older version in 12.04 with a bug that keeps me from using it.  it works in 13.04 but i can't use the 13.04 debs because of all the dependencies. However when i compile the code from source, it works, so obviously there is a dependecy in the 13.04 package that is not needed
[21:41] <Guest38880> s
[21:41] <zianya> guys my ubuntu is not booting, but it says is installed, any idea_
[21:41] <Dr_willis> when you compile its using the older libs. the dependency would be the libs it was compiled against
[21:41] <zianya> here is a sreenshoot gparted> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/197/201305032138191280x800s.png/
[21:41] <zianya> does any thing looks wrong?
[21:42] <zianya> I just did a default ubuntu setup
[21:42] <zianya> 13.04
[21:42] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: yes, it compiled against all of the older libs
[21:42] <zianya> but my laptop when boot says no operative system found
[21:43] <richardraseley> Can someone tell me where the vmlinuz-3.8.x-x-generic and initrd.img-3.8.x-x-generic files are located in raring? They used to be in /boot to the best of my recollection but I am not seeing them...
[21:43] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: 13.04 said is needed a newer version of the clib package (i'm guessing the package name as it's been a month) but when i compiled it didn't
[21:43] <Guest38880> zianya: Boot partition FAT32?
[21:44] <Guest38880> zianya: Try giving boot flag to ext4 partition, it should contain the boot manager if you installed default install
[21:44] <zianya> Guest38880: that-s what linux did, is it wrong?
[21:44] <zianya> what about that fat32 partition Guest38880
[21:45] <Dr_willis> I thought a UEFI setup had a fat32 partition ?
[21:45] <Guest38880> zianya: I don't think the default install creates a boot partition, it's all in one partition which shouldn't be fat32, it should be either ext2 or ext4
[21:45] <Guest38880> Dr_willis: Maybe newer hardware
[21:45] <benzrf> sup fellows
[21:45] <zianya> done Guest38880 let me reboot, thanks
[21:45] <Guest38880> zianya: I migh be wrong though, please check with Dr_willis
[21:45] <benzrf> graphics still shit, audio still missing
[21:45] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: does that make sense?
[21:45] <benzrf> ;~;
[21:45] <k1l> !enter | benzrf
[21:45] <zianya> I will reboot and check Guest38880
[21:46] <bazhang> benzrf, no cursing here
[21:46] <Dr_willis> johnjohn101,  makes sence to me that it works that way.. if it was compiled with newer libs.. it would depend on those libs..
[21:46] <kshenoy> Has anyone tried compiling vim on Ubuntu 13.04? It fails to recognize a GUI
[21:46] <k1l> benzrf: whats with the output?
[21:46] <benzrf> alright
[21:46] <benzrf> one sec
[21:46] <benzrf> err wait
[21:46] <markfknight> joachimhs: did you have any luck?
[21:46] <benzrf> it
[21:46] <benzrf> um
[21:46] <FloodBot1> benzrf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:46] <Guest38880> zianya: Let me know the updates.
[21:46] <bazhang> benzrf, stop with the enter key
[21:46] <benzrf> never mind, it didn't actually update, forget it. I'll get back to you... >_>
[21:46] <joachimhs> markfknight: Not yet :/
[21:47] <joachimhs> I'm trying rEFIt
[21:47] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: i understand. I really don't like using 3rd party repos.  so i guess i am looking to compile on my own and build my own .debs
[21:47] <amarcolino> I have a web directory folder which is set up as www-data:user however I would like that when I transfer or download a file or folder into it sets ownership to www-data:user instead of user:www-data, is this possible?
[21:47] <k1l> benzrf: dont spoil the help of volunteers. stick to the rules. dont spam with enter
[21:48] <Guest38880> Dr_willis: do you have lots of files in your home partition?
[21:49] <Dr_willis> Guest38880,  my /home/ is on its own 3TB hard drive.. :) so thats a yes.
[21:49] <johnjohn101> dr_willis: thanks for listening.
[21:49] <Guest38880> Dr_willis: And you are on version 13.04?
[21:49] <Dr_willis> Guest38880, yes.
[21:50] <Hitiek> my /boot is full. I'm trying to apt-get remove some of the old linux-image-* packages, but I can't because apt-get complains with "linux-image-server : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-40-generic but it is not going to be installed". Anyone have a suggestion how I get around this?
[21:50] <Guest38880> Dr_willis: And you never noticed any lag while opening nautilus? Touch wood if yes
[21:50] <zianya> Guest38880: did not work
[21:50] <zianya> ><
[21:50] <Dr_willis> Guest38880,  never had any issues with nautiuls.. if its thumbnailing 10000000+ image files.. it would make sencce it would take longer to load then if it was not.
[21:50] <zianya> do I need to remove that fat32 partition? I removed the boot flag though
[21:51] <Guest38880> Dr_willis: 7200 rpm hdd?
[21:51] <Guest38880> zianya: No, don't remove it. It might be necessary for newer hardware if your laptop is new?
[21:52] <Noggo> hello
[21:52] <Guest38880> zianya: Let me try to check, hold on for a minute.
[21:52] <Dr_willis> Guest38880, No idea. I imagine so.
[21:53] <Noggo> is it posible to hide the icon for mounted drives in the launcher under ubuntu 13.04 with unity
[21:53] <Dr_willis> Noggo,  i belive theres a setting to show/hide mounted/unmounted drives. askubuntu.com should mention the methods
[21:53] <MonkeyDust> Noggo  use gnome-tweak-tool or unity-tweak-tool
[21:53] <derp> sup fools
[21:55] <k1l> !guidelines > derp
[21:55] <speed82> porno
[21:55] <derp> k1l: okay!
[21:55] <derp> speed82: rule 34.
[21:55] <richardraseley> I am using this (http://randomtutor.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina.html) site to install Ubuntu 13.04 on my Macbook Pro (15" with Retina Display). As part of the process it tells me to copy both the kernel and RAM disk image files from /boot to be used in the configuration of the boot manager, however I am not seeing anything matching (or close to) the naming convention they provide (vmlinuz-3.8.0-6-gen
[21:56] <richardraseley> in this folder. Any suggestions on where else to look?
[21:56] <bekks> Using grub2 on 12.04, how can I set a specific kernel to be booted at next reboot?
[21:56] <devtekbeta> i want to format my usb stick containing the ubuntu-live-iso, i want to make sure i am formatting the right drive in Gparted.. it looks like the right size, it s called linux-swap(filesystem) -is this what the live-iso would have as filesystem
[21:57] <speed82> porno film
[21:58] <Mikeasaurus> off topic but whats the difference between a switch and router?
[21:58] <bazhang> http://askubuntu.com/questions/216398/set-older-kernel-as-default-grub-entry   bekks
[21:58] <bazhang> Mikeasaurus, try ##hardware
[21:58] <bekks> bazhang: Thanks
[21:58] <Mikeasaurus> ok
[21:58] <Mikeasaurus> #hardware
[21:58] <k1l> Mikeasaurus: or the #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:59] <richardraseley> I found the answer to my own question. I was accidentally looking at the /boot folder on the live USB stick and not on the actual hard disk I installed to. =X Thanks anyways!
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> Mikeasaurus  a switch connects cables, a router connects IP addresses
[21:59] <Noggo> Dr_willis at askubuntu.com is a tutorial but it is for ubuntu 11.10 - 12.04
[21:59] <Noggo> MonkeyDust these both tools have no option on ubuntu 13.04 to hide the icon in the launcher
[22:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Why is [ gksudo ] not included in Ubuntu 13.04, and what are we supposed to use going forward for graphical superuser permissions?
[22:00] <netlar1> hi
[22:00] <Dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica,  i thought gksu was removed. but gksudo was still there.
[22:00] <Dr_willis> SonikkuAmerica,  http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/6634/psa-gksu-is-no-longer-installed-by-default?cb=1
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> SonikkuAmerica  what makes you think it's no longer there?
[22:00] <bazhang> SonikkuAmerica, sudo -i
[22:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_willis: When I ran [ gksudo ] it told me to install gksu to use it.
[22:01] <SonikkuAmerica> MonkeyDust, bazhang : see above
[22:01] <bazhang> SonikkuAmerica, I did
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> SonikkuAmerica  sudo -i and then sudo apt-get install gksudo
[22:02] <SonikkuAmerica> OK...
[22:02] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, gksu
[22:02] <Dr_willis> from what i 'read' you should rarely have needed or used 'gksu'
[22:04] <bazhang> !find gksudo
[22:04] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, ^
[22:04] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/284306/why-is-gksu-no-longer-installed-by-default-in-13-04     "please always use gksudo instead of gksu. – Paddy Landau Apr 30 at 10:07"
[22:04] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_willis: The 2 are not independent of each other... yet.
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> bazhang  ok, learned something new, thanks
[22:04] <A1Recon> Using Thunderbird on Ubuntu. I love this OS!! Adios Win7!
[22:05] <bazhang> so install gksu
[22:05] <ubuntuaddicted> I thought running GUI apps with sudo is dangerous?
[22:05] <k1l> ubuntuaddicted: it is
[22:05] <Dr_willis> ubuntuaddicted,  use 'gksudo' to run gui apps.
[22:05] <ubuntuaddicted> oh i see, it's suggested to tell users to sudo -i first
[22:05] <subsilico> use sudo
[22:06] <ubuntuaddicted> Dr_willis, oh, i guess I always thought gksu and gksudo were the same. LOL disregard me guys.
[22:06] <bazhang> yeah thats not confusing
[22:06] <Dr_willis> ubuntuaddicted,  they are NOT the 'same' there are minor differances
[22:06] <subsilico> both are totally unneeded
[22:07] <ubuntuaddicted> sudo -i remains a safe solution on all currently supported versions of Ubuntu
[22:07] <zykotick9> subsilico: you're wrong.  see "/msg ubottu gksudo" for details.
[22:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Even I know the difference with and without the "gk"
[22:07] <ubuntuaddicted> subsilico, i issue gksudo gedit /foo all the time personally.
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> ubuntuaddicted  you're a non-geek
[22:08] <subsilico> what!? who is running firefox as root?
[22:08] <ubuntuaddicted> MonkeyDust, not sure where you're getting your information, cause it's wrog
[22:08] <subsilico> thats serious branindamage
[22:08] <ubuntuaddicted> MonkeyDust, wrong
[22:09] <ubuntuaddicted> Dr_willis, i've always known to run gui apps with gksudo, back to dapper days
[22:11] <subsilico> i guess my theory is never run gui apps as root
[22:11] <Dr_willis> ubuntuaddicted,  thats how id o it also.
[22:11] <ubuntuaddicted> subsilico, correct
[22:11] <subsilico> i can't hardly imagine using a gui editor to mode system files
[22:12] <subsilico> mode/mod
[22:12] <subsilico> if you don't know how to vi them you shouldn't be editing them
[22:12] <ubuntuaddicted> subsilico, everyone has their preferences
[22:12] <bammm> why do many experienced linux users use Ubuntu?
[22:13] <k1l> bammm: because it offers alot of service.
[22:13] <benzrfisafk> bammm: because it's easy to use and doesn't fight you
[22:13] <ubuntuaddicted> bammm, community support, ease of use, that's what I can think of
[22:13] <MonkeyDust> bammm  and because ubuntu has a nice offtopic channel
[22:13] <Belial> experienced linux users who don't have time  to spend days configuring their system for use.
[22:13] <Dr_willis> Girls dig guys that use Ubuntu.
[22:14] <subsilico> better package management than the redhat clones
[22:14] <ubuntuaddicted> subsilico, that's silly to say.
[22:14] <subsilico> oh really?
[22:14] <bazhang> !ot
[22:14] <ubuntuaddicted> subsilico, just because I user doesn't know vi then they shouldn't be editing config files? that's just silly IMO
[22:14] <Hitiek> my /boot is full. I'm trying to apt-get remove some of the old linux-image-* packages, but I can't because apt-get complains with "linux-image-server : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-40-generic but it is not going to be installed". Anyone have a suggestion how I get around this?
[22:14] <bazhang> take the editor wars elsewhere please
[22:14] <netlar> cool
[22:15] <amarcolino> I have a web directory folder which is set up as www-data:user however I would like that when I transfer or download a file or folder into it, it doesnt set the ownership to user:www-data but instead to www-data:user, how can I do this?
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> Hitiek  12.04 server?
[22:15] <subsilico> ubuntuaddicted: you sounds like someone who doesn't know vi. ;>
[22:15] <bazhang> subsilico, thats enough
[22:15] <subsilico> i kid i kid
[22:15] <Hitiek> MonkeyDust: yes
[22:15] <bammm> Belial: I'm assuming you mean initially configure
[22:15] <ubuntuaddicted> i prefer nano
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> Hitiek  try #ubuntu-server
[22:16] <benzrfisafk> ubuntuaddicted: WAT
[22:16] <benzrfisafk> who uses nano I mean really
[22:16] <subsilico> i guess nano is a thing
[22:16] <Belial> bammm, right.
[22:16] <TheLordOfTime> is it possible to tell using Ubuntu Software Center where something is from?  I.E. from the main repos, or the partner repos, or third-party stuff?
[22:16] <subsilico> i prefer artichoke hearts on my pizza
[22:16] <Hitiek> MonkeyDust: ok, will do. thanks
[22:16] <ubuntuaddicted> TheLordOfTime, i think apt-cache show may show you that
[22:17] <TheLordOfTime> ubuntuaddicted:  that's insufficient, because i don't know the package name
[22:17] <TheLordOfTime> ubuntuaddicted:  (otherwise, I know apt-cache can show me that)
[22:17] <ubuntuaddicted> TheLordOfTime, apt-cache search guessthename
[22:17] <ubuntuaddicted> TheLordOfTime, i like aptitude more then apt-get or apt-cache though
[22:17] <TheLordOfTime> right, i'll take my question to be answered  as "no, there's no way".
[22:19] <ubuntuaddicted> TheLordOfTime, oh sorry, didn't see the bit about the USC