[00:00] <afeijo> alt f2 not working
[00:00] <afeijo> I'll reinstall that vm, thanks guys, it was fun to try
[00:01] <bekir> Good night, ı shutdown my pc..
[00:02] <securityxxxpert> Hey guys anybody running Gnome 3 on 11.10?
[00:03] <Gskellig> always worry a little when I apt-get upgrade
[00:03] <Gskellig> afraid it wont boot when I restart
[00:03] <Corey> !anyone | securityxxxpert
[00:03] <securityxxxpert> Corey:  Nice use of the bot.  You know the time you took to type that could of been an answer
[00:04] <OerHeks> securityxxxpert, support ubuntu 11.10 in #Ubuntu+1
[00:12] <skylined101> hi guys
[00:12] <skylined101> why /etc/crontab does not exist and how can i install this ? on ubuntu 10.04
[00:12] <ntk1> hi
[00:12] <ujjain> Does mini-install 10.10 allow for console install?
[00:14] <hiexpo> maybe sudo apt-get install cron
[00:15] <qin> skylined101: less /etc/cro<TAB> and which tcontab
[00:15] <histo> skylined101: crontab -e to edit your crontab
[00:16] <Totem-Schalter> !search ssh
[00:16] <histo> skylined101: then there is /etc/cron.d/  cron.hourly cron.daily etc...
[00:18] <Faustus2> when connecting comp A to internett through B, is it a problem that both network-cards on B has ip that starts with 10.xx.xx.x?
[00:19] <histo> Faustus2: no that's a private ip
[00:19] <mrl> Hi, I was after some assistance in getting banshee to recognise my iPhone 3GS (iOS 4.1) with Banshee in 11.04. Has anyone had experience with this?
[00:20] <Faustus2> histo: hmm, then i dont know what the problem is :(
[00:21] <gry> !details | mrl
[00:21] <histo> Faustus2: i would try pinging <IP_ADDRESS> and see if it's a dns issue
[00:21] <bwr> So, I just switched from an Nvidia GPU to an AMD GPU and X doesn't start up and I already tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but that from my perspective does nothing; Any hints?
[00:21] <histo> !ati | bwr
[00:21] <Faustus2> i set the wlan0 on comp B to "Shared with other comp", what should comp A's wlan0 be set as?
[00:22] <BurninSatan> hello!\
[00:22] <BurninSatan> I need help with my ubunto!
[00:22] <gry> Hello BurninSatan, shoot. :-)
[00:22] <Faustus2> BurninSatan: try #ubunto
[00:22] <debugger> BurninSatan
[00:22] <Faustus2> ;P
[00:22] <histo> !ics | Faustus2
[00:22] <debugger> Hey guys
[00:22] <gry> debugger: Hello.
[00:22] <debugger> I installed ubuntu
[00:22] <debugger> today
[00:22] <IdleOne> Faustus2: be helpful please.
[00:23] <debugger> and i cant run Itunes
[00:23] <gry> debugger: Try in one line please.
[00:23] <debugger> ubuntu sucks
[00:23] <debugger> it cant run itunes
[00:23] <gry> debugger: Include details, what do you mean by "can't"?
[00:23] <FloodBot1> debugger: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:23] <debugger> from my mac
[00:23] <debugger> why is that?
[00:23] <Faustus2> IdleOne: i was making him LOL
[00:23] <hiexpo> !itunes | debugger
[00:23] <CHiLLZ> itunes is a joke
[00:23] <debugger> ...
[00:24] <debugger> ok then
[00:24] <debugger> where is photo booth
[00:24] <debugger> in here?
[00:24] <BurninSatan> i need help with uunt!!!
[00:24] <BurninSatan> plz help!!!!!
[00:24] <bekir> What's your problem ?
[00:25] <BurninSatan> well were is the ubutu src code
[00:25] <BurninSatan> i want to make my own op system for my broes bday
[00:25] <bekir> Hımm.
[00:25] <IdleOne> !remaster > BurninSatan
[00:25] <j_anon2> I just did a "rm -r" by accidentally and stopped it with ctrl+z within about a second. Did it delete some of the files before stopping, or does that cancel it?
[00:25] <mrl> gry: I am running Xubuntu 11.04, banshee 2.0.1. My iPhone 3GS does not appear to be communicating with banshee. When I plug it in, I do not get any response, whereas it used to appear in the sidebar, so I can sync music with it.
[00:26] <BurninSatan> sum1 repoliy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[00:26] <debugger> Nigga where tha fuck is that photo booth
[00:26] <debugger> i need some shit
[00:26] <debugger> to be done
[00:26] <FloodBot1> debugger: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:27] <BurninSatan> wait wat photo booth
[00:27] <BurninSatan> guys help
[00:27] <BurninSatan> wats the photo boot
[00:27] <mrl> Also, I have noticed there is much less traffic on dmesg than there used to be: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/631498/
[00:27] <BurninSatan> ?
[00:27] <BurninSatan> ???
[00:27] <LjL> BurninSatan: calm down
[00:27] <IdleOne> BurninSatan: stop with the enter key please
[00:27] <BurninSatan> wait help
[00:27] <BurninSatan> help me
[00:27] <LjL> BurninSatan: help you with what?
[00:28] <mrl> To clarify, that was a 'dmesg | grep Apple', not a dmesg | tail.
[00:29] <VCoolio> j_anon2: that didn't delete anything because it had no target yet to delete; also ctrl+z pauzes a command, ctrl+c stops it
[00:29] <BurninSatan> help me
[00:29] <j_anon2> VCoolio, to clarify, i did "rm -r foldername". so it did delete some?
[00:30] <BurninSatan> shit, my sphincter hurts like hell!
[00:30] <VCoolio> j_anon2: then, probably yes, that folder recursively, hard to say how much
[00:30] <j_anon2> thanks
[00:30] <draioch> just downloaded firefox-5.0.tar.bz2 and been trying to install it on latest lubuntu which has chrome as browser been looking for a good wiki for install guide or maybe its too early for that
[00:31] <OerHeks> draioch, ff5 should be in your updates by now
[00:31] <naryfa> anybody knows if moc/mocp will be ever updated or this is as good as it gets?
[00:31] <VCoolio> draioch: and you can extract where you like and just run the firefox executable inside
[00:31] <mhalligan> Has anyone ever seen "shift: 28: can't shift that many" when trying to restart a service?
[00:32] <draioch> thanks oerheks and vcoolio which is easier for a noobish
[00:33] <VCoolio> draioch: both are easy, I guess install firefox 5 using package manager is the way to go; if you just want to try some stuff out but keep the old one with add-ons, extract and run
[00:33] <SinnerNyx> is there some way in an sh script to check if a particular network interface (eg. eth1) is up or down?
[00:33] <qin> naryfa: Are you using 2.5?
[00:34] <draioch> dont have an old version thanks vcoolio ill try synatpic maybe thats the easiest
[00:34] <Faustus2> followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing but still cant connect to internett, nor even from comp A to B
[00:34] <naryfa> qin: yes, the one from repos
[00:34] <VCoolio> what's recommended with notebooks? I only see ubuntu 10.04 netbook download; no xubuntu, no lubuntu netbook options; or is desktop iso fine for notebooks?
[00:35] <qin> naryfa: It is alpha from 2009, bleeding edge it this case.
[00:35] <naryfa> qin: I also don't know how to set quick dir with a space/empty character in the folder name, escaping space with \ doesn't work
[00:35] <mrl> also, nothing appears to show up in the terminal from banshee when I plug the iPhone in.
[00:35] <DirectBoldFearle> hello
[00:36] <bekir> DirectBoldFearle : hello .)
[00:36] <DirectBoldFearle> i just installed Ubntu
[00:36] <DirectBoldFearle> and i cant watch pron
[00:36] <DirectBoldFearle> how can i wacth pron?
[00:36] <qin> naryfa: Never used quick directory, Im link (ln) addict.
[00:36] <gry> DirectBoldFearle: In Firefox...
[00:36] <DirectBoldFearle> ya
[00:36] <naryfa> qin: I see
[00:36] <DirectBoldFearle> no
[00:36] <DirectBoldFearle> wait
[00:36] <SinnerNyx> is there some way an sh script can poll to see if a particular network interface (eg eth1) is up or down?
[00:36] <naryfa> qin: ok thanks
[00:37] <DirectBoldFearle> i want internet exploder
[00:37] <FloodBot1> DirectBoldFearle: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:37] <DirectBoldFearle> wher is internet xplorer
[00:37] <Somelauw> DirectBoldFearle: Did you install flash.
[00:37] <bekir> DirectBoldFearle:install flash player
[00:37] <gry> DirectBoldFearle: Oh, hi debugger
[00:37] <DirectBoldFearle> wheres flash plyer?
[00:37] <gry> !flash
[00:38] <khalidmian> hi everyone i would like to introduce myself as a new user for the ubuntu operating system
[00:38] <gry> !guidelines > DirectBoldFearle
[00:38] <DirectBoldFearle> i blocked ubottu
[00:38] <DirectBoldFearle> because i got scared
[00:38] <VCoolio> khalidmian: for chat, ubuntuforums.org cafe section, or #ubuntu-offtopic, but welcome :)
[00:39] <mrl> Don't feed the trolls.
[00:39] <mhalligan> wow dash is a piece of crap
[00:39] <gry> What is dash?
[00:40] <VCoolio> gry: shell, like bash or zsh, theres differences like with everything on linux
[00:41] <qin> VCoolio: I think it was about part of Unity
[00:41] <jwash> is there a way to bind x11vnc to xrdp rather than xvnc?
[00:42] <jjgalvez__> I need to rebuild my computer and I wanted to save my software sources. I know I can just backup the sources.list.d folder and the sources.list file, but how do you back up the authentication keys?
[00:42] <KombuchaKip> Hey folks. I am running Maverick (amd64) and as of this morning, my music seems to stutter regardless if I play with Rhythmbox or mplayer, and same via pulse or alsa. The only updated packages I've pulled are for typesetting and firefox.
[00:43] <marcusklaas> how is that possible
[00:44] <rwp> I assume that Ubuntu Jaunty has been removed.  Does Ubuntu move things to an archive when they are out of support?  If so where might I find Jaunty packages these days?
[00:44] <marcusklaas> why wouldn't you upgrade mate ;o
[00:45] <LjL> rwp: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[00:45] <samuel> oi
[00:45] <samuel> oi
[00:45] <samuel> povo
[00:46] <rwp> LjL, Excellent.  Exactly what I needed.  Thanks!
[00:46] <samuel> qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq
[00:46] <VCoolio> qin: I now think so too :) not into that yet
[00:46] <LjL> samuel: please no spamming
[00:47] <cognificent> is there a way to mimic windows 7's left-half and right-half screen resizing hotkeys?
[00:48] <cognificent> window resizing, rather
[00:48] <qin> cognificent: compiz, grid plugin
[00:48] <qin> cognificent: Or tiling wm
[00:48] <superfly__> is there a package of card games that I can download that has games like Rummy and Euchre in it?  What about Crazy Eights?
[00:49] <gry> !games
[00:50] <VCoolio> cognificent: or wmctrl like here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1608049&highlight=wmctrl
[00:50] <Gotoro> Anyone have time for a quick question?
[00:50] <chaddy> !ask
[00:50] <KombuchaKip> New Ubuntu sci-fi game in the works: https://www.avaneya.com
[00:51] <cognificent> VCoolio, qin: Thanks!
[00:51] <Gotoro> Anyone know why I /SET use_ssl ON is not a valid command if I have OpenSSL installed?
[00:52] <ylmfos> sup guys
[00:52] <ylmfos> helloJ????
[00:52] <ylmfos> im outa here because nobody LIKES ME!!!
[00:52] <ion_> I don't know whether you guys can help me out but if you
[00:53] <ion_> can't at least poit me out the right direction, please ..
[00:53] <hiexpo> ask and find out
[00:53] <jaana> !ask
[00:53] <ion_> I need to learn how to make dump analysis in hex ...
[00:54] <ion_> any book any
[00:54] <jjgalvez__> how can I backup apt's software sources and authentication keys?
[00:54] <histo> jjgalvez__: well there is /etc/apt/sources.list  for your source list?  or do you mean the packages?
[00:55] <jjgalvez__> histo: yep that's what I mean the source.list, that I know about but that won't backup the athentication keys so how do you back that up?
[00:55] <wildbat1> ion_: don't thing it is ubuntu related ~ if you are looking for tools to view in hex there is ghex2, otherwise kinda offtopic.
[00:57] <ion_> wildbat1:without any tools just using the dump program...
[00:57] <ion_> wildbat1:I know is not but please point me the right direction ...
[00:57] <histo> jjgalvez__: you just have to find where they are registered. I'm not sure why you would want to back them up
[00:58] <D3RGPS31> How do I stop using the characters ´ and ¨, and return to using what their normal alternatives are (us keyboard)
[00:58] <D3RGPS31> I have to hit the key twice to get a character >.>
[00:58] <grymskaft> Hi I've got a question...  After my latest update the Unity desktop i gone an I can only get Classic desktop..
[00:58] <histo> jjgalvez__: let me check something hold up
[00:59] <VCoolio> D3RGPS31: keyboard preferences, choose something without dead keys
[00:59] <grymskaft> Does anyone know how to get the Unity desktop back??
[00:59] <histo> jjgalvez__: check /var/lib/apt/lists/
[01:00] <histo> jjgalvez__: looks like there are some gpg's in there
[01:00] <Daekdroom> !pastebin
[01:00] <jjgalvez__> histo: I need to rebuild my system. I was planning on making a list of installed packages to restore it. To do that I need to back up the source.list file, but I also need the authentication keys otherwise apt is going to complain every time its run until all the source are added correctly
[01:00] <D3RGPS31> VCoolio: itś system-wide >.>
[01:00] <histo> jjgalvez__: also check in /etc/apt/ there are some gpg's in there
[01:01] <histo> jjgalvez__: no you can just generate a list of installed packagess
[01:01] <histo> jjgalvez__: do you have 3rd party repositories enabled?
[01:02] <jjgalvez__> yes I do have third party repositories enabled
[01:03] <superfly__> holy smokes, thanks to the bot in here.  i didn't realize there were so many games NOT NAMED SOLITAIRE OR FROZEN TUX for linux o_0
[01:03] <histo> jjgalvez__: I would backup yoru sources list and try to find the keys. i believe you could add them to the new box with keyserver then use dpkg --get-selection to generate a list of all the installed packages.
[01:03] <gry> superfly__: Sounds great.
[01:04] <Pin> Hi everyone, I need help!, how can i hide the Ubuntu 11.04 Sidebar?
[01:04] <jjgalvez__> histo: I guess that is what I am trying to figure out how to do. How would I use keyserver to add the keys back?
[01:04] <histo> jjgalvez__: basically once the repos are sorted out. dpkg --get-selections > somefile  on the old machine and dpkg --set-selections < somefile on the new machine
[01:04] <gry> Pin, clarify please
[01:05] <Pin> The sidebar
[01:05] <Pin> the launcher sidebar that comes default with ubuntu 11
[01:05] <Pin> How do i hide it?
[01:05] <gry> !unity
[01:05] <histo> jjgalvez__: then sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[01:05] <gry> !classc | pin
[01:05] <ujjain> How come whne I one time dont want recommends installed, my apt-get stops solving depdencies?
[01:05] <gry> !classic | pin
[01:05] <Pin> what?
[01:05] <Pin> No i dont want to switchback
[01:05] <Pin> I just want to hide it
[01:05] <Pin> so its not in the way
[01:06] <histo> jjgalvez__: you could also backup the /var/cache/apt/archives/ and copy all the debs over
[01:06] <gry> you'll have no taskbar then you realise?
[01:06] <Pin> I said Hide, not erase
[01:06] <D3RGPS31> How do I stop using the characters ´ and ¨, and return to using what their normal alternatives are (us keyboard), itś system-wide
[01:06] <jjgalvez__> histo: right that will install everything from the list, assuming I have all the package sources added correctly
[01:06] <gry> do you want to auto-sow it on mouse hover, Pin ?
[01:06] <gry> auto-show *
[01:06] <Pin> yes
[01:06] <LjL> Pin: i can say it's possible from gconf or from some other tweak tool i don't remember the name of, however right now i can't check exactly how it's done
[01:06] <gry> oh
[01:07] <pc500> %Tunnel0 is linked to a VRF. Enable IPv6 on that VRF first.
[01:07] <pc500> How do I do this?
[01:07] <pc500> I have upv6 unicast routing enabled globally.
[01:07] <histo> jjgalvez__: correct. This is the problem with 3rd party repos
[01:07] <superfly__> wouldn't it be incredible if game publishers were completely on board with linux?  wait ... make that printer manufacturers ;)
[01:07] <jjgalvez__> histo: I thought of that too but I get stuck with how to make sure I have all sources configured right, or do I just need to make a list of all the packages and add them with apt-add-repository
[01:07] <spacebug-> Pin: install compizconfig-settings-manager then start ccsm and gå to "desktop->ubuntu unity plugin" in that program. There changed "hide launcher" to "auto hide"
[01:07] <pc500> under the vrf I had "Address-family ipv4", but there is no ipv6 option
[01:07] <gry> Pin see http://maketecheasier.com/autohide-unity-launcher-in-ubuntu-natty/2011/04/20
[01:07] <grymskaft> Does'nt the sidebar auto hide when you maximize a window???
[01:08] <Pin> Thank you spacebug & gry
[01:08] <gry> grymskaft you can set that, see the URL please
[01:08] <Pin> Problem resolved thank you spacebug / gry
[01:08] <spacebug-> yw
[01:08] <jjgalvez__> histo: Thanks for the help and advice, I think I know how to do it now, I am just going to have to add the 3rd party repos manually before I do the restore from the list
[01:09]  * Pin cheers
[01:09] <histo> !clone | jjgalvez__
[01:09] <histo> jjgalvez__: ahh hah i new the bot trigger was around here somewhere
[01:09] <histo> jjgalvez__: although that's a more difficult way of doing it. I like the dpkg way more.
[01:10] <grymskaft> How do I my lost unity desktop back??
[01:10] <jkup> why would you want unity back is the real question xD
[01:11] <grymskaft> because I like it...  much better than cassic
[01:11] <jjgalvez__> histo: cool thanks but I think I like the dpkg way better too, seems simplier
[01:11] <bazhang> grymskaft, what about alt f2 unity --replace
[01:11] <pc500> Does anyone have a cisco 72xx nearby?
[01:11] <pc500> Do vrf defintioin blah; address-family ?  do you have an ipv6 option?
[01:11] <bazhang> pc500, related to ubuntu somehow?
[01:11] <pc500> crap wrong channel
[01:11] <pc500> sorry guys
[01:13] <grymskaft> It got lost after my latest updates, when i logged in after the reboot it was gone and I got classic again....
[01:13] <danhorniblow> Hey people
[01:13] <cgroza> hello, I am running natty and I would like to upgrade to Oneiric to test it. Is it possible to do it via update manager.
[01:13] <cgroza> ?
[01:13] <gry> !Oneiric
[01:13] <gry> hm
[01:14] <D3RGPS31> fixed my keyboard issue; i'm also having an issue with my wireless adapter, broadcom 4322, specifically 432b; installed broadcom-sta-common/source, compiled the source provided, and installed it, but wlan0 doesn't appear and it doesn't appear in lsmod
[01:14] <danhorniblow> does anyone here know how to setup .htaccess files?
[01:15] <scriptwarlock> cgroza,  you want to try 11.10 alt+f2 and type update-manager -d
[01:17] <aplund> is there a ppa for the 275 nvidia drivers in 11.04?
[01:18] <kingofswords> ive just dled a x-executable/application file , when i click it it opens a 'lauch app' box...how do i install this?
[01:18] <D3RGPS31> i have a broadcom 432b wireless adapter, and it doesn't work. *badum tss*
[01:18] <jkup> if you EVER have trouble sounding condescending, ask a linux user, theyll show you how its done
[01:19] <j_anon2> I SSHed into one server and ran a wget recursive command to copy a directory via ftp from a different server. If I close the command line window on my current computer (the guest computer i used to ssh into the server), will it stop copying?
[01:20] <jrib> j_anon2: yes
[01:20] <j_anon2> jrib: then can i "pause" and resume the command?
[01:20] <jaana> j_anon2, you may want to use screen
[01:21] <j_anon2> "use screen"?
[01:21] <jrib> j_anon2: in the future use screen or tmux.  You can probably get away with just disowning the job at this point
[01:21] <kingofswords> how do i make a file executabl?e
[01:21] <qin> j_anon2: If its 32bit, try retty for detach/attach process.
[01:21] <jrib> !permissions > kingofswords
[01:23] <kingofswords> too much info
[01:23] <jrib> kingofswords: huh?
[01:23] <scriptwarlock> kingofswords, right click that file and go to permission find the little box named execute and tick that one
[01:23] <qin> kingofswords: chmod 700 your/file
[01:23] <kingofswords> oh that link
[01:23] <jrib> kingofswords: yes, read it
[01:23] <noisewaterphd> he is trying to double click a script to launch it
[01:23] <kingofswords> all i want to know is what to type?
[01:23] <jrib> kingofswords: read it so you can understand what you are doing
[01:23] <kingofswords> do i type
[01:23] <kingofswords> chmod +x cacaoweb.linux?
[01:23] <noisewaterphd> just use the cli, go to dir, ./yourfile
[01:24] <kingofswords> cli?
[01:24] <kingofswords> im in the dir and when i click it it opens a 'lauch application' box
[01:25] <znh> Hi. I'm about to download Ubuntu. The website recommends 32-bit. but I do have 4 Gb of ram and a 64bit cpu. what should I do?
[01:25] <noisewaterphd> 64
[01:25] <kingofswords> 32
[01:26] <jrib> 64 <-- for the tie-break
[01:26] <noisewaterphd> 64 all the way
[01:26] <kingofswords> you can get a program that allows you to use 4gb on 32 bit...but 64 is pain in the arse
[01:26] <jrib> kingofswords: why is 64 a "pain in the arse"?
[01:26] <qin> znh: 64, less battery life, some packages do not have 64 version, but still 64 is better.
[01:26] <noisewaterphd> if you really actually end up needing 32 compat you can just install the ia libs later
[01:26] <kingofswords> alot of packages dont have 64 bit versions
[01:26] <jrib> kingofswords: like?
[01:26] <Pin> OMG, I installed Compiz and I enabled Desktop Cube and now my windows have no borders
[01:26] <noisewaterphd> see above
[01:26] <Pin> HELP!
[01:27] <znh> is 64 as stable as 32?
[01:27] <kingofswords> god knows
[01:27] <qin> jrib: retty
[01:27] <Pin> it messed up my ubuntu unity
[01:27] <jrib> retty, any others?
[01:27] <qin> jrib: Not to my knowledge ;)
[01:28] <chrisf> znh: i have had no trouble with 64
[01:28] <bazhang> kingofswords, thats just not true
[01:28] <znh> It's for desktop usage. Netbeans/Firefox/Music
[01:28] <jrib> znh: while some packages do not have 32 bit versions, I'd argue they are packages that most would not miss. I'd recommend you use 64bit
[01:28] <kingofswords> ok...ive had troubles with 64...and wished i had 32 now
[01:28] <znh> I'd prefer stability over speed
[01:28] <Pin> help my desktop is swiss cheese , I installed compiz and enabled Desktop cube in Ubuntu 11.04 and now my desktop is messed up
[01:28] <Pin> i have no borders
[01:28] <bazhang> kingofswords, then reinstall
[01:28] <Pin> no x button or minimize buttons either!
[01:28] <Pin> help!
[01:28] <noisewaterphd> there are no stability issues with 64 bit
[01:29] <kingofswords> too much hassle
[01:29] <bazhang> Pin, try alt f2 metacity --replace
[01:29] <bazhang> !enter | Pin
[01:29] <kingofswords> i cant open http://<IP_ADDRESS>:4001/index.html
[01:29] <noisewaterphd> hell even the flash plugin is 64bit now, and if you do manage to find a 32bit only app then just install the 32 bit ia libs and its a non issue
[01:30] <Pin> bazhang, I did that thanks, but now my bar dissapeared
[01:30] <Pin> my panel bar
[01:30] <Pin> and ubuntu sidebar dissapeared
[01:30] <Pin> now Alt+F2 doesnt work anymore
[01:30] <kingofswords> i dont think flash works so great in 64 bit
[01:31] <almostroot> I just tossed USB drives with bootable Fedora to 22 high school kids and taught them how to mount drives and reset "lost" passwords.
[01:31] <gwelymernan> yo al
[01:31] <gwelymernan> ahem
[01:31] <qin> Pin: Is it unity?
[01:31] <gwelymernan> i mean
[01:31] <bazhang> kingofswords, sure it does. did you have an actual support question?
[01:31] <chrisf> kingofswords: works fine here
[01:31] <Pin> i did the metacity --replace you told me to do
[01:31] <almostroot> Dual booted with Ubuntu*
[01:31] <D3RGPS31> i have a broadcom 432b wireless adapter, installed broadcom-sta-common, and it doesn't work :/
[01:31] <Pin> Qin yes im using Ubuntu 11.04 unity
[01:31] <kingofswords> maybe its my pc...
[01:31] <bazhang> Pin, stop hitting the enter key so often
[01:31] <qin> Pin: Alt-Ctrl-t ?
[01:32] <Pin> Ok Alt-ctrl-t worked
[01:32] <RudyValencia-> Is there a different Web-based tool I can install to control my system other than Webmin?
[01:32] <kingofswords> anyway its just my opion on 64...im newb so dont take my advice whoever asked question
[01:32] <eb3ha4el> What is difference between total size of file and size on disk?
[01:32] <D3RGPS31> RudyValencia-: monit
[01:32] <Pin> What do I type in the terminal qin?
[01:32] <bazhang> !ot | kingofswords
[01:32] <qin> Pin: Before you loguot/login, try unity --replace
[01:32] <bleet> hey can anyone help me write a quick shell script
[01:33] <bazhang> bleet, to do what
[01:33] <noisewaterphd> bleet: no quicker than google can
[01:33] <RudyValencia-> D3RGPS31: I'm looking for something like a Netgear or Linksys router has - a Web interface to control my router server
[01:33] <bleet> it runs lzma on selected files from right click menu
[01:34] <histo> RudyValencia-: webmin or phpmyadmin etc..
[01:34] <Corey> bleet: "Right click menu" and "shell script" go together like peanut butter and tuna fish.
[01:34] <bleet> dont getch
[01:34] <bleet> a
[01:34] <RudyValencia-> I'm using Webmin right now but it's lacking in network administration - notably, configuring iptables to allow certain traffic through
[01:34] <histo> RudyValencia-: http://www.webmin.com/
[01:34] <D3RGPS31> should i just chuck my bcm4322 wireless adapter :/
[01:34] <histo> RudyValencia-: hrm..
[01:34] <RudyValencia-> I don't know what rules I need to allow IPsec traffic from my mobile phone to my ADSL connection
[01:34] <histo> D3RGPS31: they work with firmware
[01:35] <tjk11> hello
[01:35] <RudyValencia-> I think I'll go back to the way my systems were before - behind a Netgear router.
[01:35] <D3RGPS31> histo: i've used what tools are provided me, and i can't get it to work
[01:35] <histo> RudyValencia-: ebox or google webmin alternatives
[01:35] <histo> !broadcom | D3RGPS31
[01:36] <Pin1> hey qin i did unity --replace
[01:36] <Pin1> I have my panel, and launcher bar back, but the windows still have no borders, no X button , no minimize button etc
[01:36] <D3RGPS31> histo: thank you
[01:37] <tjk11> where is the filmware for wireless connection
[01:37] <histo> tjk11: what card ar eyou trying to use?
[01:37] <tjk11> umm one sec
[01:38] <fiber> Hi... I was wondering if anyone knew of an app similar to http://mac.github.com/... of particular interest is the checking all of my git repositories for updates
[01:38] <histo> tjk11: lspci will show you
[01:38] <tjk11> ok
[01:39] <bazhang> fiber, apt-cache search git turns up a number
[01:40] <Pin1> Help, my Ubuntu 11.04 windows have no borders, I was messing with Compiz and the border dissapeared
[01:41] <fiber> bazhang: for sure... just wondering if anyone had any familiarity with them and could recommend one in particular
[01:41] <bazhang> fiber, depends on your needs I suppose, not familiar with the mac one
[01:41] <robert> how do i change rooms?
[01:42] <bazhang> robert, what client
[01:42] <bazhang> fiber what about bzr
[01:42] <histo> robert: /join #roomname
[01:42] <fiber> bazhang: it's brand new and waayyy to packed for me... I really just want some notification when any of my repositories in ~/projects are out of date with respect to origin/master
[01:42] <Pin1> Help, my Ubuntu 11.04 windows have no borders, I was messing with Compiz and the border dissapeared. How do I restore my Unity back to how it was, with all the borders and everything
[01:42] <robert> trying to get to java room
[01:42] <Pin1> ?
[01:42] <histo> robert: /j #java
[01:42] <bazhang> robert, /j ##java
[01:43] <administ1ator> hey everyone
[01:43] <robert> says it is invite only
[01:43] <fiber> bazhang: screw it... I'll just make one and put it on github
[01:43] <bazhang> Pin1, what does "messing with compiz" mean please be clear
[01:43] <bazhang> robert, register then
[01:43] <robert> how?
[01:43] <bazhang> robert /j #freenode for that
[01:44] <Pin1> Like I said before, I enabled Desktop cube, but then it conflicted with ubuntu unity plugin
[01:44] <hiexpo> !register > robert
[01:44] <bazhang> Pin1, your posts are very hard to read as you keep using the enter key, and not giving full info
[01:44] <Pin1> What information do you want to know
[01:45] <bazhang> Pin1, all on *one* line
[01:45] <Pin1> What do you want to know?
[01:46] <tjk11> i need help with setting up my wireless i have this wireless card: Dell Wireless WLAN 1397 Half MiniCard (4312bg)
[01:46] <hiexpo> Pin1, your problem and what you did in one post
[01:47] <Meshezabeel> the #ubunto channel is by invite only so I had to come here
[01:47] <hiexpo> Meshezabeel, this is the ububtu channel
[01:48] <Pin1> The problem : I have no window borders, X buton, minimize button, its all gone. What i did : I went to compiz, and enabled desktop cube, It said it had to disable desktop wall in order for it to work, Then i clicked disable desktop wall, but then i got a popup saying that desktop wall was part of unity and had to be on for unity to work, something like that, but i enabled desktopcube anyways, But my windows borders dissapeared
[01:48] <bazhang> Pin1, /join #compiz
[01:49] <hiexpo> Pin1, go back into compiz and re enable desktop wall than
[01:49] <eb3ha4el> does anyone use Ubuntu one? did it work properly?
[01:50] <spacebug-> eb3ha4el: not for me
[01:50] <eb3ha4el> spacebug: not for me either..
[01:50] <Pin1> Hiexpo I did, and nothing happened, then i disabled Unity Plugin and reenabled and nothing happened
[01:50] <TMechanic> hi
[01:50] <spacebug-> bigger files get uploaded 100% according to indicator/u1sdtool but they never get finished
[01:50] <scriptwarlock> hello! | TMechanic
[01:51] <scriptwarlock> hello!
[01:51] <TMechanic> hi ppl wifi wireless works from 74% right?
[01:51] <scriptwarlock> hmm
[01:51] <TMechanic> im doing the test
[01:51] <TMechanic> in ubuntu
[01:51] <TMechanic> thanks to my neightboor
[01:53] <dankest> I'm getting the following error when I try to update my iptables: iptables-restore v1.4.4: iptables-restore: unable to initialize table 'filter'
[01:53] <dankest> 5:51 PM
[01:53] <dankest> Error occurred at line: 1
[01:53] <dankest> 5:51 PM
[01:53] <dankest> Try `iptables-restore -h' or 'iptables-restore --help' for more information.
[01:53] <dankest> 5:51 PM
[01:53] <dankest> Has any encountered this before?
[01:53] <FloodBot1> dankest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:53] <Meshezabeel> hiexpo: oh, I didn't want ububtu, I wanted ubunto
[01:54] <pappa_bear> hi
[01:54] <qin> TMechanic: Does your neightboor have open wifi access point.
[01:54] <dankest> I'm getting the following error when I try to update my iptables: "iptables-restore v1.4.4: iptables-restore: unable to initialize table 'filter'"  Has anyone dealt with this before?
[01:54] <TMechanic> no haha
[01:54] <TMechanic> i broken it
[01:55] <fossconn> how can I append all .csv files in a folder? They are sortable by file name.
[01:56] <qin> fossconn: Append? You mean write more data to it, or change names?
[01:57] <fossconn> join the files
[01:57] <fossconn> like
[01:57] <fossconn> merge them into 1 big file
[01:58] <qin> cat *.csv >> onebiggie
[01:58] <fossconn> Join is the bad word I guess, I don't mean "inner join" I simply mean "append"
[01:58] <fossconn> ah
[01:58] <qin> Not sure how cat see order of files, tho.
[01:59] <fossconn> [wln320@fs0 res]$ *.csv >> onebiggie
[01:59] <fossconn> -bash: ./td.val.00000000-00016145.csv: Permission denied
[01:59] <fossconn> -.-
[01:59] <fossconn> I can vim them
[02:00] <qin> fossconn: touch test (in same folder)
[02:00] <fossconn> I gave all +x seems to run now
[02:00] <qin> fossconn: onebiggie neew +w
[02:00] <qin> *need
[02:00] <fossconn> lol this takes forever -.-
[02:01] <SinnerNyx> ok so how do I send an expression to grep? I want it to match the following:  -> ../sites-available/.*-wan$
[02:01] <SinnerNyx> it keeps interpretting -> as one argument and the rest as another
[02:01] <SinnerNyx> I tried quotes and stuff
[02:02] <fossconn> so I need to make en empty oneBiggie?
[02:02] <fossconn> onebiggie
[02:02] <qin> SinnerNyx: Is not /sites-... directory?
[02:02] <fossconn> [wln320@fs0 res]$ chmod +w onebiggie
[02:02] <fossconn> chmod: cannot access `onebiggie': No such file or directory
[02:02] <qin> fossconn: You should not if directory have write permission.
[02:03] <qin> fossconn: touch onebiggie
[02:03] <fossconn> [wln320@fs0 res]$ *.csv >> onebiggie
[02:03] <fossconn> -bash: ./td.val.00000000-00016145.csv: Permission denied
[02:03] <fossconn> guess its the .csv files that don't have access ?
[02:04] <qin> fossconn: touch onebiggie
[02:04] <fossconn> I did this qin
[02:04] <fossconn> but then it gave the error I just printed
[02:05] <trism> fossconn: you are trying to execute the .csv files, try instead, say: cat *.csv > onebiggie; or for FILE in *.csv; do cat $FILE >> onebiggie; done
[02:05] <qin> fossconn: ok, cat *.csv >> ~/onebiggie ????
[02:05] <bleet> can some one tell me how to get just the last part of the path form the first path in $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS
[02:06] <trism> fossconn: as qin suggested a while ago, but you forgot the command 'cat'
[02:06] <fossconn> I will try cat *.csv >> ../onebiggie
[02:06] <qin> fossconn: Since you cannot write there, good idea.
[02:06] <fossconn> ah!
[02:06] <fossconn> cat *.csv >> ../onebiggie seems to work!
[02:06] <fossconn> Thanks
[02:08] <copumpkin> can anyone point me at the sshd package download for 11.04? I need to get it onto a machine that doesn't have network connectivity right now so I can dpkg it
[02:08] <qin> bleet: cut?
[02:08] <bleet> qin: script
[02:09] <Valentine1> why it says access denied in terminal? http://pastebin.com/ka0JZnuU
[02:09] <tjk11> i need help setting up my wireless internet
[02:09] <qin> bleet: Cannot see  $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_SELECTED_FILE_PATHS output, but cut (and tr) are very userfrendly, also sed, but you would want /j ##sed
[02:10] <cablop> i am running Lucid in an old board, dated 1999 in the BIOS, should i chould ACPI or APM in the BIOS?
[02:10] <bleet> qin: i am using in the right click menu to do something .. any quick example of one of those for me?
[02:10] <snakepit_> Hello
[02:11] <snakepit_> someone know how to install GNOME 3 in Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[02:11] <snakepit_> Unity doesnt works fine
[02:12] <snakepit_> Hello, anybody alive ?
[02:12] <cablop> snakepit_: start ubuntu in classic mode, then test if your isues are gone that way, then if you know your issues are ust Unity issues look for a ppa with gnome3, but gnome 3 is considered unstable for ubuntu
[02:12] <tjk11> hello
[02:12] <trism> Valentine1: the script is probably not executable, try: chmod +x /home/aaqil/Desktop/Programming/dex2jar/dex2jar.sh; then try the script again
[02:13] <tjk11> can anyone help me set up wireless internet?
[02:13] <snakepit_> thx cablop
[02:13] <scriptwarlock> snakepit_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/22946/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-gnome-3
[02:13] <scriptwarlock> snakepit_, if you can wait for 11.10 much better
[02:13] <cablop> snakepit_: an advice gnome 3 could dissapoint you too
[02:14] <Valentine1> tjk11: go to edit connections
[02:14] <solomonic> hey I have a quick question
[02:14] <tjk11> valentine1, ok
[02:14] <snakepit_> 11.10 will come with GNOME 3 installed ?
[02:14] <solomonic> which is better LinuxMint or ubuntu
[02:14] <cablop> nope
[02:14] <solomonic> snakepit_: no
[02:15] <Valentine1> tjk11: then, in wireless tab can you see something?
[02:15] <snakepit_> so, scriptwarlock why do you see its better if i wait the 11.10 ubuntu version ?
[02:15] <tjk11> valentine1: no
[02:15] <snakepit_> see = said
[02:15] <cablop> solomonic: depends in what you define as best, about some restricted drivers and other sw linuxmint, afaik, mint didn't came with that annoying unity
[02:15] <scriptwarlock> solomonic, taste solomonic
[02:15] <qin> bleet: echo $PATH | cut -f 1 -d : | cut -f 3 -d "/" (not sure is format same and -f fieldnumber may need to be adjusted)
[02:16] <solomonic> lol
[02:16] <bleet> qin: thanks ill give it a go
[02:16] <solomonic> when I say best i mean, " look/feel"
[02:16] <scriptwarlock> snakepit_, no pm pls
[02:16] <snakepit_> ok
[02:17] <snakepit_> so, why do you said to wait 11.10 ?
[02:17] <bazhang> snakepit_, yes it will. ignore snakepit_
[02:17] <scriptwarlock> snakepit_, stability
[02:17] <bazhang> snakepit_, sorry ignore solomonic
[02:18] <qin> bleet: But, am i wrong, or ti will be always same value?
[02:18] <bleet> nope
[02:18] <bleet> will alway be different
[02:18] <solomonic> bazhang: what are u talking about?
[02:18] <snakepit_> ok, thanks
[02:18] <bazhang> solomonic, dont POLL here
[02:18] <solomonic> poll?
[02:18] <solomonic> by asking what's best?
[02:18] <bazhang> snakepit_, #ubuntu+1 for 11.10
[02:19] <bazhang> solomonic, correct
[02:19] <solomonic> where should I go to "poll" ?
[02:19] <bazhang> solomonic, #ubuntu-bots
[02:19] <scriptwarlock> lol
[02:19] <cablop> running ubuntu on al old board, what is better to use APM or APIC?
[02:19] <bazhang> scriptwarlock, ?
[02:19] <solomonic> people on irc are strict
[02:19] <snakepit_> bazhang, ok i'll wait it
[02:19] <solomonic> bazhang: u made ubuntu?
[02:19] <caoxiaomin> hello
[02:19] <scriptwarlock> sorry supposed to be replied on empathy
[02:20] <bazhang> solomonic, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:20] <afaty> caoxiaomin is chinese?
[02:20] <solomonic> bazhang: thanks
[02:20] <caoxiaomin> yes
[02:20] <afaty> ha~
[02:20] <afaty> me too~
[02:20] <chrisf> cablop: (assuming you meant ACPI) -- if ACPI works correctly, use it
[02:20] <snakepit_> how can i speak to someone specific in IRC ?
[02:21] <chrisf> snakepit_: /msg someone blah
[02:21] <qin> snakepit_: try baz<
[02:21] <bazhang> snakepit_, ask here for support ask before you PM
[02:21] <caoxiaomin> 我不会英文额
[02:21] <cablop> oh yes ACPI
[02:21] <bazhang> !cn | caoxiaomin
[02:21] <cablop> thanks chrisf
[02:21] <afaty> 我也是，能看明白。
[02:21] <bazhang> afaty, english here only
[02:21] <afaty> 表达不明白。。。
[02:22] <afaty> Oh, sorry.
[02:22] <caoxiaomin> 你是哪里人，这里面全是老外吗
[02:22] <afaty> Bei jing.
[02:22] <bazhang> afaty, #ubuntu-cn for chinese, caoxiaomin you too
[02:22]  * caoxiaomin    what
[02:22]  * caoxiaomin_    what
[02:22] <MrBushido> in the butt
[02:22] <bazhang> caoxiaomin, /join #ubuntu-cn
[02:22] <Nobgul-bnc> !cn | caoxiaomin
[02:23] <afaty> Thank you.
[02:23] <tyler_d> how do I get alsa mixer to show up as a sound in the doc? currently I have nothing and my volume controls on my keyboard do not work?
[02:23] <caoxiaomin> 他让咱们进
[02:23] <bazhang> caoxiaomin, please
[02:23] <caoxiaomin> no
[02:23] <afaty> But But too few people online in China, so I prefer the English Channel
[02:24] <fossconn> qin++
[02:24] <fossconn> hmm does not work :P
[02:24] <fossconn> but thanks a lot !
[02:24]  * fossconn bows deeply
[02:24] <afaty> bazhang is chinese too?
[02:24] <scriptwarlock> afaty, much better if you ask in english :)
[02:25] <bazhang> afaty, did you have an ubuntu support question?
[02:25] <afaty> OK, I speak in English.
[02:25] <qin> fossconn: You really could give example of your variable.
[02:25] <bazhang> afaty, this room is for support only NOT for chat
[02:25] <afaty> NO
[02:25] <bazhang> afaty, ?
[02:25] <fossconn> My variable?
[02:26] <fossconn> the qin variable? XD
[02:26] <fossconn> ++ ?
[02:26] <qin> Sorry
[02:26] <qin> fossconn: Thought you are bleet
[02:26] <fossconn> That is something in the economic channel, you can ++ helpful users, enough++ gets you channel admin :P
[02:26] <afaty> I have no problem in ubuntu, but I want to see someone else here to ask questions and solve problems, or help others solve problems
[02:27] <fossconn> eh?
[02:27] <fossconn> bleet? XD
[02:27] <bazhang> afaty, thats fine. but please keep the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:27] <afaty> My English is poor does not mean my technique is poor.
[02:28] <bazhang> !ot | afaty
[02:28] <alan_> Trying to use WinKey+Shift+N (N=1,2,3,4) for Keyboard shortcuts for "move window to workspace N".  Doesn't work in 10.04 nor in 11.04.  Worked in cat /etc/issue
[02:28] <afaty> OK。
[02:28] <qin> fossconn: What was wrong? formatting? can you: cat file1.csv >> ../test && cat file2.csv >> ../test ???
[02:28] <cablop> i have a real problem here
[02:28] <caoxiaomin> shift+F!@#$
[02:28] <bazhang> cablop, with what
[02:29] <fossconn> No, it works totally fine! And I'm really happy with the result.
[02:29] <cablop> i mount the luks devices, then appears an extra one i didn't added on purpose called sdaX_crypt_unformatted
[02:29] <bthornton> Running ubuntu 11.04/gnome classic... my windows don't have title bars and I can't move/resize them. I know compiz is still running b/c I can change workspaces... how do I get my window titles back?
[02:30] <afaty> But I can stay in this channel, I do not speak
[02:30] <bazhang> bthornton, using gtk-window-decorator ?
[02:30] <cablop> bthornton: run in a console `compiz-decorator --replace &`
[02:30] <qin> fossconn: 02:24 <     fossconn > hmm does not work :P  [???]
[02:31] <bthornton> okay, just tried gtk-window-decorator and compiz-decorator...
[02:31] <bthornton> I can see my window titles now
[02:31] <cablop> bthornton: then use the compiz config manager to change the default value of the now-tied-to-uniti gtk-window-decorator for the line i provided you
[02:31] <bthornton> but can't move the windows.
[02:31] <elek> how do i remove x and all its components (gtk/gnome/kde libs/etc)?
[02:31] <cablop> now you need to go and use the compiz config an enable the move option
[02:31] <bthornton> aha success!!
[02:31] <qin> elek: Remove, mean permanently?
[02:31] <bthornton> thanks guys!
[02:32] <cablop> don't use compiz fusion icon
[02:32] <cablop> it will mess your compiz in 11.04
[02:32] <elek> well, just delete them.. so yeah permanently
[02:32] <bthornton> yeah I messed up all sorts of things with compiz lately... it all started when I tried to enable wobbly windos and my desktop cube
[02:32] <Nobgul-bnc> elek, a lot of other programs will use gtk, if you remove it may be bad
[02:32] <bthornton> all just went downhill from there
[02:33] <qin> elek: It will be more effective (and faster) to reinstall to server edition.
[02:33] <elek> Nobgul-bnc: i dont need x on this install.. not going to run a vnc and no direct access to it
[02:33] <cablop> bthornton: anyone who tried to run 11.04 without unity regreted
[02:33] <Nobgul-bnc> elek, but the backend libs are still shared
[02:33] <bthornton> yup
[02:33] <cablop> elek: but, why you want to delete that? just disable it
[02:34] <Nobgul-bnc> elek, is what i ment. As bthornton suggest reformat into server would be a better idea in my opinion
[02:34] <elek> it was originally a server install.. but some jackass installed xubuntu-desktop packages on it
[02:34] <cyperbg> hello, I installed Hardware Sensors Monitor but is there a way to find out which temperature to what sensor corresponds?
[02:34] <bazhang> elek, or just use puregnome and dont install kubuntu-desktop
[02:34] <Nobgul-bnc> then just sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop
[02:35] <cablop> elek but it won't hurt
[02:35] <bazhang> !purekde | elek
[02:35] <cablop> just disable the gdm thing
[02:35] <cablop> or kdm or xdm
[02:35] <Nobgul-bnc> errr xubuntu-desktop i am sorry
[02:35] <bazhang> elek, correction dont install ubuntu-desktop in the link
[02:35] <o_oll> Can someone help me with some very simple bash? I'm not sure what's going wrong here: http://pastebin.com/gbJsBwQP
[02:35] <elek> package not found
[02:35] <bazhang> elek, check the link I sent
[02:35] <Nobgul-bnc> elek, 1 second ill get you the proper command
[02:35] <elek> okay, going to check it out
[02:36] <bazhang> Nobgul-bnc, that will not do it
[02:36] <cablop> uninstall <>ubuntu-dektop won't help, those are empty packages
[02:36] <bazhang> !metapackage | Nobgul-bnc
[02:36] <cablop> elek just disable the xdm or gdm or kdm services and voila
[02:36] <Nobgul-bnc> audo apt-get remove x-window-system-core xserver-xorg gnome-desktop-environment
[02:36] <o_oll> *actually sh not just bash
[02:36] <cyperbg> anyone know how to add to the panel a sensor for my Ati GPU?
[02:37] <Nobgul-bnc> bazhang, ok =) i think i have removed it that way before. I may be wrong.
[02:37] <cablop> elek if they are performing some work with gui they'll need it
[02:37] <o_oll> or does anyone know a better chat to ask about bash?
[02:37] <bazhang> Nobgul-bnc, you are mistaken
[02:37] <o_oll> ^^
[02:37] <bazhang> #bash
[02:37] <elek> thanks Nobgul-bnc!
[02:37] <cablop> elek, and if you are working with other tech stuff ask them to use a log system to track what is done on the system and why
[02:37] <caoxiaomin> what is ubuntu?
[02:37] <o_oll> bazhang I'm not sure how in the world i didn't think of that =P
[02:37] <Nobgul-bnc> elek, I would be more worried about who got into your server and installed it. and who u gave access to
[02:37] <o_oll> bazhang thanks
[02:38] <FloodBot1> o_oll: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:38] <elek> it was a friend who wanted to setup a vnc
[02:38] <cablop> well vnc is for gui
[02:38] <cablop> i prefer nx
[02:39] <qin> o_oll: But I think $current visit awk too often.
[02:41] <pr0ton> whats a good way to improve knowledge of bash?
[02:41] <pr0ton> i know basic stuff
[02:41] <pr0ton> more than basic i guess..
[02:41] <Nobgul-bnc> #bash
[02:41] <bazhang> !abs | pr0ton
[02:41] <Nobgul-bnc> there is a boot in the topic i think
[02:41] <Nobgul-bnc> book*
[02:42] <pr0ton> thanks bazhang
[02:44] <RedRobot> pr0ton: there is also #bash
[02:44] <pr0ton> RedRobot, ok
[02:44] <qin> Sweet!
[02:45] <alan_> Trying to use WinKey+Shift+N (N=1,2,3,4) for Keyboard shortcuts for "move window to workspace N".  Doesn't work in 10.04 nor in 11.04.  Worked in 8.04 with Keyboard>Layout>Options>Alt/Win key behaviour>Super is mapped to the Win Keys.  But that option is not in these newer releases.
[02:46] <copumpkin> anyone know why I don't have the libboost-all-dev package available on my brand new 11.04 install?
[02:48] <prospero_> hola
[02:48] <bazhang> !es | prospero_
[02:49] <prospero_> ok
[02:49] <WXZ> I installed libvte-doc, how do I view it?
[02:49] <prospero_> tanks
[02:51] <marc_> try: dpkg -L libvte-doc
[02:52] <WXZ> marc_: it gives me a list of all the files installed
[02:53] <WXZ> it's a series of documents, I'm looking for some kind of interface which parses them and presents them in a visual form
[02:54] <WXZ> hmmm, they seem to just be htmls
[02:54] <tjk11> can anyone help me set up my wireless internet?
[02:54] <o_oll> #bash does not like novice questions :/ I'm studying the guides they linked me to but I'm just not getting it without someone pointing me in the right direction. Is there a channel for learning this kind of thing?
[02:54] <bazhang> !wifi | tjk11
[02:55] <tjk11> thanks
[02:55] <bazhang> o_oll, abs-guide?
[02:55] <o_oll> #bashfordummies or something?
[02:55] <bazhang> !abs | o_oll this?
[02:56] <marc_> MXZ: try with firefox: firefox /usr/share/gtk-doc/html/vte/index.html
[02:57] <smerdykov> hi everybody, I just broke my ubuntu 11.04 install and I'm not sure how
[02:58] <_ython> any one experiencing hang as such there is no response from keyboard or mouse but other programs seems to be running like for e.g. music
[02:58] <smerdykov> It boots to the login screen, I enter my information and select the session (which doesn't make a difference) the screen goes dark, and it loops back to the login
[02:58] <o_oll> bazhang, not that one. Looking at: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[02:58]  * _ython running 11.04
[02:58] <o_oll> bazhang http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuideThanks for the other link I'll look over it, too.
[03:03] <EvilMog> mild annoyance with new ubuntu 11.04 vs 10.04 LTS,  specifically around Mpich,  anybody have experience with Mpich2, Hyrdra and JTR?  I'm having problems getting my newly upgraded JTR cluster to do a crypto run, and mpdboot no longer exists for diagnostics
[03:04] <Nujey> How can I remap my keyboard?
[03:05] <WXZ> Nujey: system > preferences > keyboard
[03:05] <Nujey> WXZ: you happen to know how to do it from the command line?
[03:05] <WXZ> nope
[03:06] <jAyenGreen> if a user accidentally created a symbolic link with a name of the form this/file ... how do I delete it? rm just tells me that it's not a directory
[03:07] <viii> hey, is there anyway to disable charging?
[03:09] <syntaxx> i am wondering if you can install .deb files without answering the dialog questionaire?
[03:09] <tjk11> what should i do if my wireless card is not supported?
[03:09] <izinucs> syntaxx: you mean "provide your password?"
[03:10] <bazhang> tjk11, what chipset lspci in terminal to tell us
[03:10] <cablop> tjk11: try to get linux drivers from the hw manufacturer, try to find some open source drivers, try to use ndiswrapper
[03:10] <bazhang> tjk11, paste.ubuntu.com to share that info here
[03:10] <syntaxx> izinucs, no i wanted to install a .deb files but i dont want the deb files to ask questions like you see a dialog blue screen
[03:10] <joeseph> I am looking for a cheap ($20-$25) wireless PCI adapter that works out of the box (or with jockey) in ubuntu.  Suggestions?
[03:11] <bazhang> joeseph, intel/atheros broadcom
[03:11] <izinucs> syntaxx: not sure what a dialog blue screen is.. from terminal dpkg -i <package name>
[03:11] <bazhang> joeseph, thats three
[03:12] <syntaxx> izinucs, yeah but after that it shows something like a debconf
[03:12] <joeseph> bazhang:   Any specific model recommendations?
[03:12] <syntaxx> izinucs, like i need to input the server etc etc for the automatic configurations
[03:12] <bazhang> joeseph, most will do afaik
[03:12] <izinucs> syntaxx: what are you installing?
[03:12] <syntaxx> izinucs, im installing libpam-heimdal from a .deb file
[03:13] <cablop> syntaxx: some packages are meant to be configured, no way to avloid it
[03:13] <cablop> ie mysql servr, it will ask you for a root password for the databases
[03:14] <syntaxx> cablop, hmm so does it mean it cant be configured using kickstart?
[03:14] <izinucs> syntaxx: sounds like a deb you downloaded.. you should only use it if it's not in the repositories.. aside from that if it asks for info after the dpkg then that's part of the library setup I would think.
[03:14] <cablop> check that package and what is it asking for
[03:15] <cablop> ok, i installed this lucid on an old board, installed a tuxonice flavored kernel, installed uswusp and hibernate, set ACPI on the bios... and no hibernete option from menu, any suggestion?
[03:15] <syntaxx> cablop, it asking for the kerberos realm ubuntu has it on 11.04 but the version was wrong and it do not support new packages
[03:16] <D3RGPS31> what package does System>Administration>Hardware/Additional Drivers belong to <.<
[03:16] <mindspider> Could downgrading wine to 2.2.* help me run TF2?
[03:16] <LetsGo67> Hello everyone!  How do you make dial-up faster on Ubuntu?
[03:16] <derp|gone> I have arrived!
[03:16] <cablop> mindspider: go to winehq and check compatibility of win apps there
[03:16] <izinucs> mindspider: check wine's site and see what they say about TF2
[03:16] <mindspider> It runs very bad on 2.3.3 despite me having everything on the worst settings and using dxlevel 7
[03:16] <bazhang> D3RGPS31, jockey?
[03:16] <D3RGPS31> mindspider: have you checked wine's appdb to see which version of wine runs TF2 best?
[03:16] <cablop> syntaxx: no idea, i'm not much a KDE user...
[03:17] <D3RGPS31> bazhang: thank you, i'll try that v:
[03:17] <mindspider> I'll check i
[03:17] <mindspider> t
[03:17] <bazhang> D3RGPS31, jockey-gtk if gnome
[03:17] <izinucs> syntaxx: you can always ask in #kubuntu or #kde.. most likely you'll get better help in #kde
[03:18] <syntaxx> izinucs, im not using a kde.. its just a deb package.. use for centralize authentication
[03:18] <izinucs> syntaxx: sorry.. assumed you were by cablop 's comment
[03:19] <D3RGPS31> i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for installing my bcm4322 (bcm432b), but wlan0 still isn't showing up
[03:20] <daniel__> do programs i install outside of the software center update?
[03:21] <bazhang> daniel__, install how
[03:21] <bazhang> daniel__, and what package
[03:21] <daniel__> bazhang, for example i use a program called teamviewer 6 and u have to install it from the website through a .deb
[03:22] <D3RGPS31> daniel__: programs you install manually have to be updated manually
[03:22] <bazhang> daniel__, so you used dpkg? gdebi?
[03:22] <izinucs> daniel__: put it on the desktop and double click it.. software center might open but it's just an indication it's installing
[03:22] <daniel__> bazhang, know clue what that means
[03:23] <bazhang> daniel__, how did you install the .deb then
[03:23] <daniel__> double click
[03:23] <bazhang> gdebi then? did software center open? or what
[03:23] <daniel__> it used the software center to isntall it but its not orignonally there
[03:23] <IdleOne> bazhang: default now is software center
[03:24] <bazhang> IdleOne, nice thanks
[03:24] <cablop> gdebi in lucid USC in maverick and natty
[03:24] <cablop> gdebi in maverick if upgraded from lucid
[03:26] <D3RGPS31> i'm still having trouble with my broadcom 4322 (432b), the driver is installed, but there's no wlan0 :/
[03:26] <daniel__> bazhang, ill walk u through my question ok so if i download a deb package (exmpleprogram.deb)and open it with software center will i have to worry about updates or does software center take care of that
[03:26] <mindspider> How do I find which wine version runs tf2 best on appdb?
[03:26] <bazhang> daniel__, you have to do it
[03:27] <bazhang> mindspider, check the site?
[03:27] <barraponto> what is the recommended IRC client for ubuntu?
[03:27] <izinucs> mindspider: winehq
[03:27] <daniel__> bazhang, hmm is there a program that will do it ?
[03:27] <cablop> D3RGPS31: you must restart or manually load the driver
[03:27] <daniel__> barraponto, smuxi
[03:27] <barraponto> daniel__: thanks
[03:27] <bazhang> barraponto, none. irssi xchat weechat konversation quassel and others are often used though
[03:27] <cablop> barraponto: i am using Quassel
[03:27] <D3RGPS31> cablop: from what i can see, the driver is loaded >.>
[03:27] <cablop> let me check if i have the link here
[03:27] <RedRobot> bazhang: weechat is quite awesome and have a really friendly dev
[03:27] <barraponto> bazhang: quassel and konversation are my favorites from back when i was a kde user.
[03:28] <bazhang> barraponto, avoid empathy
[03:28] <RedRobot> er... barraponto ^
[03:28] <barraponto> bazhang: but i was looking for something that fits within unity.
[03:28] <ZykoticK9> daniel__, any program in Ubuntu's repo is updated automatically, if you install things from outside the repo YOU need to look after updates.
[03:28] <pzn> Hi! Just upgraded from 10.04->10.10->11.04 today. user interface is very good now! I'd like to know where is the appearance->effects configuration screen. I found the appearance screen, but the effects tab does not exist. where are the effects?
[03:28] <cablop> D3RGPS31: what driver? see at the end of the readme for some clues http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[03:28] <D3RGPS31> cablop: wl
[03:28] <bazhang> barraponto, no idea there. cli are irssi and weechat, then the rest are gui
[03:29] <cablop> pzn not many effects afaik
[03:29] <izinucs> pzn: install ccsm.. compiz config settings manager
[03:29] <LetsGo67> How do you make the slow turtle dial-up on Ubuntu 2 times or 3 times faster?
[03:29] <RedRobot> cli clients are superiour for irc anyway
[03:30] <bazhang> LetsGo67, you dont
[03:30] <RedRobot> LetsGo67: you switch to adsl2
[03:30] <LetsGo67> bazhang: Why not?
[03:30] <LetsGo67> RedRobot: But say by using compression?
[03:30] <bazhang> LetsGo67, thats a bandwidth issue not an ubuntu issue
[03:30] <cablop> D3RGPS31: unload the other alternative drivers, then manually open load wl with modprobe
[03:30] <RedRobot> LetsGo67: doesn't really help that much
[03:30] <tensorpudding> compression isn't going to increase your bandwidth
[03:31] <D3RGPS31> cablop: did :/
[03:31] <IdleOne> LetsGo67: you can't..it's dialup after all
[03:31] <RedRobot> usually you only get a 10-20% increase
[03:31] <tensorpudding> it'll make transferring some things faster
[03:31] <syntaxx> can i get specific file in debian repository using apt-get?
[03:31] <LetsGo67> RedRobot: Not with Opera!  It gives me 2 times or 3 times!  But Firefox doesn't have a compressor!  :(
[03:31] <pzn> izinucs, you mean simple-ccsm package?
[03:31] <bazhang> syntaxx, dont mix debian and ubuntu repos, no
[03:31] <LetsGo67> tensorpudding: It's better than just dial-up, right?
[03:31] <cablop> D3RGPS31: `modprobe -r b43`  or ssb or wl then `modprobe wl`
[03:32] <LetsGo67> IdleOne: When did a compressor start existing?
[03:32] <RedRobot> LetsGo67: compression depends on your isp
[03:32] <izinucs> pzn: there's another.. search for compiz
[03:32] <RedRobot> not on the browser
[03:32] <tensorpudding> what does opera's compressor do?
[03:32] <izinucs> pzn: simple is .. well.. simple.. ccsm is the real deal
[03:32] <tensorpudding> compression requires that your endpoint compress the data before sending it to you
[03:32] <cablop> check in the modules ubuntu load if there's a file that one of them leaves that disables the other drivers wt boot up
[03:32] <RedRobot> bha so much tab fail tonight
[03:32] <cablop> D3RGPS31: check last  comment
[03:32] <IdleOne> LetsGo67: no idea, but like already mentioned this is not an Ubuntu issue.
[03:32] <pzn> izinucs, there is no "ccsm" package :-(
[03:33] <LetsGo67> tensorpudding: It makes mobile and desktop pages smaller so that the Internet is 2x to 3x "faster" or more.
[03:33] <izinucs> pzn
[03:33] <tensorpudding> it's apparently an option for HTTP servers to compress
[03:33] <bazhang> !ot | LetsGo67
[03:33] <izinucs> pzn: hang on.. I'll find it for you.
[03:33] <tensorpudding> it's totally not an ubuntu thing
[03:33] <D3RGPS31> cablop: i've done every thing on that page and on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx :c
[03:33] <LetsGo67> IdleOne: But isn't "running Windows apps on Ubuntu" related to Ubuntu?
[03:33] <ZykoticK9> pzn, compizconfig-settings-manager (or something SIMILAR)
[03:33] <bazhang> LetsGo67, lets move on please
[03:33] <tensorpudding> nor does it make your connnection faster, just allows you to transfer data over http faster on some sites
[03:33] <IdleOne> LetsGo67: I'm not going to continue more off topic discussion. You know the rules here please take it elsewhere
[03:33] <scriptwarlock> LetsGo67, its a wine thing
[03:34] <LetsGo67> bazhang: Final question, is it fun to use the technology on Ubuntu?
[03:34] <izinucs> pzn: in Ubuntu software center (if that's where you're looking) it's Advanced Desktop Effects Settings (ccsm) .. 2 lines above the "simple" listing
[03:34] <LetsGo67> !ppp
[03:34] <bazhang> LetsGo67, /msg ubottu please
[03:35] <izinucs> pzn: you'll notice right below it it says "compiz config settings manager"
[03:35] <LetsGo67> Okay, now for an on-topic discussion: my modem says "Santa" on it.  What driver do i need?
[03:36] <Gnea> ?
[03:36]  * Gnea notes that on-topic discussions tend to be serious discussions
[03:36] <LetsGo67> Gnea: Yes.
[03:36] <pzn> ZykoticK9, izinucs thanks, I found ccsm, installing it now
[03:37] <Gnea> LetsGo67: got a picture of said modem?
[03:37] <bazhang> LetsGo67, that has zero to do with ubuntu
[03:37] <izinucs> pzn: np :)
[03:37] <scriptwarlock> LetsGo67, be more specific
[03:37] <cablop> LetsGo67: you need to get to know the chipset, i forgot the commands... there are some to list your hw
[03:37] <DarkStar1> hi ppl. is there a mail client that can be configured to send a delayed mail?
[03:37] <velofille> DarkStar1, cron can do that, but not not really
[03:37] <D3RGPS31> cablop: nvm, it named itself eth2 for some reason i don't want to know
[03:38] <velofille> DarkStar1, 'at' command line would also do it. Do not know any clients at all. Look for thunderbird plugin?
[03:38] <cablop> D3RGPS31: eth0 is the name of the ethernet device from the system point of view, that means you have two ethernet devices
[03:38] <DarkStar1> thx ppl
[03:38] <D3RGPS31> cablop: i have no eth0, i thought that strange :/ my ethernet goes to eth1, and the wireless adapter is eth2
[03:39] <cablop> D3RGPS31: well three ethernet devices, eth0 eth1 and eth2 or you had three different devices all the time
[03:39] <D3RGPS31> cablop: should i worry?
[03:39] <cablop> D3RGPS31: then you had another device in the past, now removed or disabled, and no, no worries, that means your computer remembers its configuration and that's ok
[03:40] <D3RGPS31> this feels dirty :c
[03:40] <velofille> try washing it
[03:40] <ZykoticK9> cablop, i too have issues with eth0 appearing as eth1 on SEVERAL installs (though they are VMs, but typically they start as eth0 then majically on reboots become eth1 - it's a pain)
[03:40] <cablop> DarkStar1: i remember Eudora was able in the past
[03:40] <D3RGPS31> ZykoticK9: i did my install from a VM then swapped it to a laptop
[03:40] <EvilMog> is there any way to purge the mpich2 package from 11.04 and install the 10.04 LTS package in 11.04?
[03:41] <cablop> if they become eth1 that means the mac changed, mostly in VMs if you were playing with the virtual eth devices
[03:41] <EvilMog> trying to avoid having to do a rebuild
[03:41] <Gnea> D3RGPS31: ethernet devices are renaming themselves on reboot?
[03:41] <ZykoticK9> D3RGPS31, ? i just ignore the incorrect numbering and config eth1 and move on...
[03:41] <fernando> list
[03:41] <cablop> D3RGPS31: that's the thing, eth0 was the virtual eth device, you no longer have that one, so, no worries, continue
[03:42] <D3RGPS31> okei dokei lokei :3
[03:42] <Gnea> I tend to see devices change names when different devices get connected, so the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules file tends to keep track of them
[03:43] <Gnea> but not everyone winds up finding that out
[03:43] <daniel__> hello would anyone help me learn a little more about transmision liek do i wanna mess with the properties like speed and stuff or will it have a worse outcome
[03:43] <cablop> transmission is a bittorrent tracker?
[03:43] <Gnea> daniel__: depends on how much bandwidth you've got
[03:43] <cablop> i use deluge instead
[03:43] <daniel__> yes
[03:44] <cablop> my suggestions, get to know your real download bandwith and your real upload bandwith
[03:44] <daniel__> Gnea, how do i find that out
[03:44] <cablop> common isp make it asymetric, so upload is smaller
[03:44] <Gnea> daniel__: speedtest.net or something
[03:44] <Totem-Schalter> maby sppedtest.org
[03:44] <Totem-Schalter> speedtest.org
[03:44] <cablop> daniel__: stop downloading hearing online music or youtube... and speedtest.net
[03:45] <Totem-Schalter> yeah .net oops
[03:45] <cablop> daniel__: check in two different servers, not the one it offers you only
[03:45] <creep> hi @ all is there an admin to kick me (just for a test for the irc client that i currently developp plz) !
[03:45] <daniel__> should i turn off smuxi also ?
[03:45] <adminewb> cpu core voltage control, perhaps through sysfs, anyone? cpufreq interface isn't quite enough.
[03:45] <cablop> i suggest you to go no more than half the speeds
[03:46] <Gnea> cablop: they updated it
[03:46] <cablop> and i also suggest you to not to run many upload download threads at the same time
[03:46] <creep> hi @ all is there an admin to kick me (just for a test for the irc client that i currently develop plz) !
[03:46] <bazhang> creep, no stop that
[03:46] <creep> ok just a question
[03:46] <Gnea> creep: just join your own channel and kick yourself
[03:46] <creep> not yet implemented ^^
[03:46] <scriptwarlock> hehehe nice idea
[03:47] <cablop> Gnea yep, but i cannot trust the servers they offer, for me they offer Quito and seems the Quito one is slower than my bandwidth, then i test with Aruba and China or Japan ones to make an average idea of the effective bandwidth
[03:47] <Gnea> cablop: well yeah, they're only basing it off of current ping values, it's a step in the right direction at least
[03:48] <celthunder> cablop: why not just test using the gateway ip your isp gives you...it's to there network that's about as fast as it'll get then test again using the exit of there network
[03:48] <celthunder> cablop: that's usually about as accurate as anything
[03:48] <daniel__> Gnea, 2.78 Mbpsdownload .72 Mbps upload
[03:48] <cablop> celthunder: that will give me raw but not net bandwidth
[03:49] <celthunder> cablop: if they're throttling it'd make more sense for them to do it sooner than later.
[03:49] <Gnea> daniel__: try some different servers
[03:49] <celthunder> not that anything is run using common sense anymore
[03:49] <cablop> daniel__: Mbps... consider one think Mb is 1/8 of MB, so adjust the speed according to that
[03:50] <cablop> that means 2Mbps are really 256 KBps
[03:50] <daniel__> Gnea, cablop, shoudl i find a server near me ?
[03:50] <cablop> ISP providers use Kbps and Mbps for their advertisement because numbers "sound" big
[03:51] <cablop> check one near you, check against the starred one closer to you, and check one far far away from you, about the other side of the planet
[03:51] <Gnea> daniel__: try 2 near you and 2 far from you
[03:52] <cablop> or like Gnea said, two close and two far, ie, i'm in south america, then i test Ecuador and Aruba, and away i test one in Europe and Tokyo or Hongkong
[03:52] <daniel__> Gnea, they are all very close to that first number
[03:53] <Gnea> daniel__: add them up and divide by 4 and you'll have the average
[03:53] <cablop> daniel__: thwn that's very close to your effective speed
[03:53] <cablop> i ĺl sugest to use max speeds at 50~67% of your full speed
[03:53] <daniel__> add the upload and download ?
[03:54] <cablop> no, calculate them appart
[03:54] <daniel__> oh ok
[03:54] <cablop> avg dl and avg ul
[03:55] <cablop> you can in a hurry saturate your dl speed, but never never saturate your upload one, upload speed carries out information to check what network packages are you receiving losing, so they affect your dl speed
[03:55] <Totem-Schalter> i would not even mess with it i doubt u will see a diffrence
[03:55] <daniel__> on transmision its in kib
[03:56] <cablop> kib... good enough, it is binary rather than decimal based, but umbers are so close
[03:56] <cablop> wait
[03:56] <cablop> KiB or Kib ???
[03:57] <daniel__> so what would is KiB
[03:57] <mcnellis> I have two cronjobs that I want to be run every 5 minutes, so I've used the */5 syntax for the minute spec. However the two cronjobs must not run at the same time, so how can I specify that one run every 5 minutes but offset by 2 minutes? so that it runs at minute 2, 7, 12, 17, etc.
[03:57] <daniel__> i meant to just say KiB
[03:57] <cablop> long story short 1B = 8b, as B stands for Byte and b stands for bit
[03:58] <cablop> 1KB = 1000B and 1 KiB = 1024 B
[03:58] <bazhang> daniel__, this is really not ubuntu specific
[03:58] <woodyjlw> can I look at system info or all hardware info from live cd with terminal?  if so what is the command?
[03:58] <bazhang> woodyjlw, sudo lshw
[03:58] <cablop> bazhang: well, right, but we are close to solve the isue xD
[03:58] <daniel__> bazhang, sorry i will move lol
[03:59] <woodyjlw> bazhang, thanks
[03:59] <cablop> daniel__: to finish the topic so fast
[03:59] <bazhang> daniel__, set upload to 100kb done
[03:59] <Totem-Schalter> lol
[03:59] <bazhang> daniel__, this is transmission right?
[03:59] <daniel__> yes
[03:59] <cablop> assume dl of 2Mbps, that means just 256KB/s then set it to no more than 128KiB to download
[03:59] <daniel__> its preset there
[03:59] <freeminds> I am having trouble with setgid. I set the rights this way: chmod a+rx,g+ws . . Now I am trying to run a make install with a user, who is in that group that got the permission, but I get this error: chmod: changing permissions of `/usr/local/mailman/archives/private': Operation not permitted
[04:00] <freeminds> any ideas?
[04:00] <daniel__> ok last question here and upload should be the same right ?
[04:00] <bazhang> daniel__, set the upload to 100kb, then if you have limited bandwidth click the turtle icon on the bottom
[04:00] <bazhang> daniel__, no
[04:00] <cablop> assume 0.72 Mbps then 9KiB to upload, LOL
[04:01] <cablop> wit, i did something wrong xD
[04:01] <bazhang> daniel__, set dl to unlimited, dl to 100kb
[04:01] <bazhang> daniel__, whoops ul to 100kb
[04:01] <cablop> not that ul, he'll hang the network that value
[04:01] <cablop> LOL
[04:01] <bazhang> probably
[04:01] <daniel__> ok thanks and sorry for offtopic
[04:01] <cablop> 45 KiB of upload, no more
[04:02] <bazhang> daniel__, thats not offtopic, the definition of kib and KiB was
[04:02] <cablop> that's almost 50% of your ul, but you don't want to hang mail sending or see "lag" at facebooking xD
[04:02] <bazhang> daniel__, help with transmission is certainly on topic, just random bandwidth definitions are not really
[04:03] <daniel__> oh i just want the torrents to download as fast as possible dont care if it lags
[04:03] <bazhang> daniel__, so set no limit on dl and use dht
[04:03] <cablop> daniel__: then still don't use the full ul dw
[04:03] <cablop> bw
[04:03] <bazhang> daniel__, the key is not setting ul too high, will choke your network for instance with firefox etc
[04:04] <woodyjlw> is there any know issues with this nvidia C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] on ubuntu 10.04 ?
[04:04] <daniel__> ok i have it at 100 /45 and now transmision should run smoother:D
[04:04] <cablop> daniel__: and also you cannot send the package received information on time, so the other peer won't start sending you more things
[04:04] <sar4unix> I created a persistant live disk
[04:04] <freeminds> woodyjlw, check the common bug trackers
[04:04] <woodyjlw> ok
[04:04] <prospero_> # join hispano
[04:05] <daniel__> should i honor global limits?
[04:05] <pappa_bear> any1 know how to get the dim screen buttons to work on this macbook in 11.04??
[04:05] <cablop> daniel__: well, those are the ones that meant something xD
[04:05] <woodyjlw> well install is finish time to reboot so if there are any problems I guess I will know shortly
[04:06] <cablop> woodyjlw: the issues i know regardless nvidia and 10.04 was proprietary drivers collided with nuveau ones, be careful on 11.04 then, nouveau is stronger in that dristro
[04:08] <cablop> ok
[04:09] <cablop> time to go to solve other issues
[04:09] <cablop> see ya channel
[04:11] <sar4unix> i installed persistant live disk on usb, now i am able to create user and make him admin, login as admin and removed ubuntu,  but when I reboot, it goes back to ubuntu@ubuntu? how do i remove that completely?
[04:14] <erikaflusa> hi
[04:14] <erikaflusa> i have question on firefox running ubuntu 11.04
[04:15] <ZykoticK9> sar4unix, FYI rather then using a persistant LiveUSB it's possible to do a full install onto USB - thus you could customize anyway you wished.  Best of luck.
[04:16] <erikaflusa> can someone please help
[04:16] <sar4unix> @erikaflusa Just ask
[04:17] <blackshirt> erikaflusa: exactly, what the problem with firefox ??
[04:18] <erikaflusa> i tried playying yahoo spades
[04:18] <erikaflusa> it crashes
[04:19] <erikaflusa> i hav all the updates installed
[04:19] <bazhang> erikaflusa, whats the link
[04:19]  * ZykoticK9 uses his crystal ball - and thinks erikaflusa's issue is most likely flash an not firefox
[04:19] <erikaflusa> im not sure what u mean by link
[04:19] <erikaflusa> java
[04:19] <bazhang> erikaflusa, to the website that crashed
[04:20] <blackshirt> erikaflusa: i think that was flash issue
[04:20] <erikaflusa> http://games.yahoo.com/games/login2?page=sp&ss=1
[04:20] <pjbperry> is there a fix yet to the random logoff problem in Natty 11.04 with Unity that doesn't involve upgrading to 11.10?
[04:20] <erikaflusa> i get to that point
[04:20] <bazhang> erikaflusa, let me try it
[04:21] <leftist> what is the cd syntax for a directory that would be for example My Folder?
[04:21] <ZykoticK9> bazhang, hope you have a yahoo account ;)
[04:21] <leftist> what is the syntax to change to a directory that has a space?
[04:21] <ZykoticK9> leftist, "cd My\ Folder" or -- cd "My Folder"
[04:21] <leftist> for example My Directory
[04:22] <leftist> agg
[04:22] <leftist> ahh
[04:22] <leftist> i never used those spaces in the old daze i used _ or something but time changed :)
[04:22] <leftist> thanks
[04:22] <bazhang> ZykoticK9, :)
[04:24] <leftist> anyone using wowzamediaserver or Red5?
[04:24] <erikaflusa> any luck
[04:24] <erikaflusa> bazhang
[04:25] <bazhang> erikaflusa, yes?
[04:25] <gry> 05:20:53 < bazhang> erikaflusa, let me try it
[04:25] <gry> 05:24:23 < erikaflusa> any luck
[04:25] <gry> 05:24:51 < erikaflusa> bazhang
[04:25] <FloodBot1> gry: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:25] <bazhang> gry, yes, means yes, luck.
[04:25] <erikaflusa> did it crash on u
[04:25] <leftist> anyone know what this refers to? ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot
[04:25] <leftist> is that a form of initialization?
[04:26] <erikaflusa> how can tell what type ram i hav
[04:26] <erikaflusa> i have 512mb
[04:26] <bazhang> erikaflusa, its a flash issue not ram
[04:26] <erikaflusa> need to add more
[04:26] <erikaflusa> can it be fixed
[04:26] <erikaflusa> or run 10.10
[04:26] <leftist> there is a command that will give you a rundown on all the devices in your system
[04:26] <leftist> forget it now
[04:27] <noisewaterphd> lspci
[04:27] <ZykoticK9> leftist, lspci or lshw perhaps
[04:27] <leftist> yes
[04:27] <bazhang> sudo lshw
[04:27] <leftist> lspci and lshw yes
[04:27] <bazhang> the ram one is dmidecode, nope
[04:27] <adminewb> cpu core voltage control, perhaps through sysfs, anyone? cpufreq interface is not quite enough
[04:27] <fossconn> Is there some way to "inner join" two .csv files?
[04:27] <gry> Is "lshw" Ubuntu-only, ot is it something available in Debian as well?
[04:28] <cyperbg> I'm trying to compile and install sensors-applet-2.2.7.tar.gz. I downloaded it, extracted it and then ./configure --prefix=/usr. But after then when I type make it tells me no makefile found
[04:28] <fossconn> instead of adding merging the rows from two files and merge them into a big file
[04:28] <bazhang> oh it is dmidecode
[04:28] <fossconn> I want to merge columns
[04:28] <cyperbg> anyone can help please?
[04:28] <ZykoticK9> gry, from debian "lshw - information about hardware configuration"
[04:28] <bazhang> gry, ask in #debian ?
[04:28] <erikaflusa> ok
[04:29] <cyperbg> anyone?
[04:29] <ZykoticK9> cyperbg, might not be such a great idea installing into /usr as that is available as a package in Ubuntu
[04:30] <erikaflusa> can the flash issue be fixed
[04:30] <cyperbg> ZykoticK9, I know but I read that the only way for the GPU temp to show is to compile it and install it myse;f
[04:30] <cyperbg> ZykoticK9, I know but I read that the only way for the GPU temp to show is to compile it and install it myself
[04:30] <ZykoticK9> erikaflusa, flash in notoriously bad in GNU/Linux - and as it's closed source, not much anyone (but Adobe) can do to fix it.
[04:31] <erikaflusa>  sudo lshw invalid command
[04:31] <cyperbg> so ZykoticK9 can you help me to successfully compile and install it?
[04:31] <IcemanV9> fossconn: paste file1.csv file2.csv > merge.csv  if i could recall
[04:31] <erikaflusa> i heard about gnash
[04:31] <ZykoticK9> cyperbg, if that's what you have to do - then that's what you have to do.  Installing in /opt might be a better location (not sure if that would break your program however!)
[04:32] <erikaflusa> i guess 11.04
[04:32] <erikaflusa> changed alot
[04:32] <cyperbg> so do I write: ./configure --prefix=/opt
[04:32] <ZykoticK9> cyperbg, no.  I can't help with the compile part.  Seek support in the programs' channel (if available)
[04:32] <erikaflusa> from 10.10
[04:32] <gry> bazhang: hm good idea
[04:33] <ZykoticK9> gry, lshw is installable in Debian
[04:33] <gry> ZykoticK9: Thank you for the response.
[04:33] <cyperbg> anyone else care to help?
[04:34] <erikaflusa> no flash works great under 10.10
[04:34] <ZykoticK9> erikaflusa, gnash works for a very few sites (mainly video like YouTube etc) - not so good with games :(   I do miss VectorTD since dropping flash-non-free
[04:34] <erikaflusa> which ubuntu u running
[04:34] <erikaflusa> version
[04:35] <arooni-mobile> hi folks;  i installed an adobe air on 64 bit platform on ubuntu 11.04 via http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10768442&postcount=1 ... but when i try to install any air apps; nothing worksw
[04:35] <arooni-mobile> it just stalls and says "installing applicatoin"
[04:35] <LetsGo67> !test
[04:35] <erikaflusa> u running 11.04
[04:36] <ZykoticK9> arooni-mobile, Adobe recently dropped Air support from Linux :(  You're installing a "dead" platform.  Just an FYI.
[04:36] <arooni-mobile> ZykoticK9, hahaha
[04:36] <ZykoticK9> arooni-mobile, i'm not joking?
[04:36] <arooni-mobile> ZykoticK9, i know; its just sad
[04:36] <ZykoticK9> arooni-mobile, adobe = fail  (not really sad)
[04:38] <mneptok> ZykoticK9: Adobe has at least one really, realy incredible product.
[04:38] <mneptok> ZykoticK9: http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/9813/obi480c9cbdkt9.jpg
[04:38] <ZykoticK9> mneptok, :)  thanks, made be laugh.
[04:38]  * mneptok beams brightly
[04:38]  * robbmunson laughs
[04:42] <aurilliance> I'm aware some versions of xampp/lampp aren't supported in #ubuntu, but I'm trying to find the python based xampp starter app that ubuntu has - anyone know where it is / what it's called? It's a little gui window that has buttons for starting and stopping the xampp service...
[04:43] <bazhang> aurilliance, xampp as a whole is not supported, use lamp
[04:43] <i9c> sup guys, I want to install ubuntu on my new laptop, I have to instal 64bit to get my full 6GB of ram correct? or can I go 32bit and get PAEX (physical address extension) to take care of the rest of my ram?
[04:44] <bazhang> i9c, linux-generic-pae for 32 bit you mean?
[04:44] <izinucs> i9c: go 64
[04:44] <i9c> I guess, ubuntu has 2 download options from what I can see, 32bit which says reccomended and 64 bit
[04:45] <bazhang> i9c, just get 64 really ignore the website
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> i9c, PAE is a sorta "hack" no one program can use more then the 3.2GB (32bit limitation), there are only a few programs that still require 32bit - but if you need one (some drivers) then stick to the 32bit plus PAE
[04:45] <i9c> what is PAE used for then
[04:45] <ZykoticK9> i9c, the "system" can use more then 3.2GB
[04:45] <i9c> but not applications?
[04:45] <bazhang> it can be used i9c but you can certainly go for 64, no reason not to
[04:46] <ZykoticK9> i9c, no "one" application
[04:46] <Loto> go 64
[04:46] <arooni-mobile> ZykoticK9, thats annoying i can install air; but no air apps
[04:46] <ZykoticK9> arooni-mobile, i have no idea - but I wouldn't start using Air today, as it may be gone tomorrow ;)
[04:51] <i9c> so does anyone know how pae works? I mean if you only have 32 address lines, how do you get more?
[04:52] <bazhang> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension i9c
[04:52] <i9c> lol should have guessed :)
[04:53] <eldank> dd
[04:53] <ZykoticK9> i9c, 64bit is also faster at some things then 32bit (video encoding for one)
[04:54] <i9c> everyone in here using ubuntu right now?
[04:54] <i9c> lol I guess that's a silly questions
[04:54] <ZykoticK9> i9c, BUT 32bit is easier, especially when you start dealing with installing 32bit libraries (big hint on that front, getlibs script)
[04:55] <i9c> you guys think linux will EVER take off as a serious desktop contender with mac and windows?
[04:55] <ZykoticK9> i9c, not everyone no - i bet there are some Arch and Debian users in here too (I'm in the latter category)
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> i9c, both your last questions are better for the OT channel.
[04:56] <i9c> why do you use debian over ubuntu? just curious, I don't know much about linux but I do know that ubuntu is based off of debian
[04:56] <expl0it> yes @ i9c but normal people are too stupid for linux
[04:56] <rypervenche> I too use Debian.
[04:56] <ZykoticK9> !ot
[04:56] <qin> i9c: Debian is easier too spell, for some.
[04:57] <i9c> ...you serious? that's why you guys use it? it's easy to spell?
[04:57] <bazhang> i9c, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:57] <i9c> I'm sorry I'll leave
[04:58] <leftist> anyone have any thoughts on why system monitor nor htop will kill a process sometimes? i have to command line kill alot of time some of the processes running.
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> leftist, for anything NOT started by your user - that would be normal.
[04:59] <leftist> oh yeah your right
[04:59] <leftist> i forgot that :D
[05:00] <leftist> i guess i need to go back to running Xenix :D
[05:01] <afaty> 不过说实话，不管是软件中心还是任务图形化的软件管理工具，我都没用了。虽然从9.10开始我就用UBUNTU了。
[05:02] <ntkm> !?
[05:02] <rypervenche> afaty: 嗯嗯，你應該去#ubuntu-cn
[05:02] <afaty> SORRY。
[05:02] <rypervenche> 沒關係︿︿
[05:02] <ugly_duck> meh!
[05:03] <afaty> Just quit, and forget to switch channels.
[05:13] <mrl> Hi, I'm having an issue with banshee, I am unable to transfer music to my iPhone, it comes up with the error: " the mp3 format is not supported by the device, and no coverter was found to convert it"
[05:16] <imed> anyone testing kernel on ubuntu?
[05:16] <imed> how do you compile?
[05:17] <ZykoticK9> !kernel
[05:17] <imed> nop
[05:18] <imed> i want to develop a patch for kernel
[05:18] <adminewb> cpu core voltage control, perhaps through sysfs, anyone?
[05:19] <imed> wondering if anyone is doing that
[05:20] <imed> and how manage partition etc for the kernel testing
[05:21] <imed> a free partition and a compilation ala ubuntu?
[05:22] <thurizar> hola a tods
[05:22] <ZykoticK9> !es > thurizar
[05:23] <faryshta> Does someone know how to use webcam on ubuntu?
[05:23] <faryshta> msn-webcam.
[05:23] <ZykoticK9> faryshta, start by seeing if it works in Cheese
[05:23] <thurizar> solo spanish pls
[05:23] <faryshta> ZykoticK9, it does.
[05:23] <ZykoticK9> !es | thurizar
[05:23] <faryshta> ZykoticK9, and with flash but msn doesn't work. Which program I need?
[05:23] <imed> yep try first Cheese
[05:23] <thurizar> ok gtacias
[05:24] <ZykoticK9> faryshta, you could try amsn
[05:24] <adminewb> !mp3 | mrl
[05:24] <thurizar> join #ubuntu-es
[05:24] <faryshta> ZykoticK9, doesn't work.
[05:25] <ZykoticK9> !doesntwork | faryshta
[05:25] <faryshta> ZykoticK9, it ask for farsight but that library isn't on the repositories.
[05:25] <faryshta> ZykoticK9, any other program?
[05:25] <ZykoticK9> one of my fav factoids.  I just wait for someone to say "doesn't work" ;)
[05:26] <ZykoticK9> faryshta, sorry I don't use MSN, but Pidgin and Empathy are alternative IM clients (with MSN and video support of some sort).  Best of luck.
[05:26] <faryshta> ZykoticK9, thanks for nothing.
[05:26] <bazhang> faryshta, watch the attitude
[05:27] <imed> yep give a try to Pidgin
[05:27] <faryshta> imed pidgin doesn't have webcam support.
[05:28] <darnell> is the InRelease update server down?
[05:29] <Jeffsi> hey, so ive got this ubuntu box and it does not see my motherboard driver, what should i do to get this working?
[05:29] <Jeffsi> networ*
[05:30] <imed> faryshta, that's not true
[05:31] <ZykoticK9> Jeffsi, do you know the specific network card?  Does "lspci | grep -i net" show it?
[05:31] <Jeffsi> one moment, ill check
[05:32] <darnell> is the update repo down??
[05:33] <imed> faryshta, just google webcam + pidgin + ubuntu
[05:33] <Jeffsi> ZykoticK9: what do i type?
[05:34] <ZykoticK9> Jeffsi, in a terminal "lspci | grep -i net" no quotes
[05:34] <gry> Jeffsi: lspci | grep -i net
[05:34] <peeps[lappy]> anyone here used GIMP GAP before?  i don't think it's ever worked in ubuntu.  I can't extract frames from any videos, it doesn't recongize them
[05:34] <peeps[lappy]> and I have mplayer installed, and it is capable of playing these videos
[05:34] <Jeffsi> what is this "|"
[05:34] <peeps[lappy]> Jeffsi, it's a pipe
[05:35] <Jeffsi> im not sure how to type this
[05:35] <darnell> i cant update to firefox 5 using update manager. is one of the repos down?
[05:35] <gry> the pipe button is to the left of backspace
[05:35] <peeps[lappy]> it pipes output of one program into another programs input
[05:35] <gry> s/button/key/
[05:35] <Jeffsi> got it :D
[05:37] <gulzar> how to change / partition... I mean how to copy OS files from one partition to another
[05:37] <Jeffsi> ZykoticK9: i dont see the one im looking for
[05:38] <imed> gulzar, just normal cp
[05:38] <qin> gulzar: cp /from/here /to/there
[05:39] <darnell> can someone help me with the failed repo msgs i keep getting when i try to check for updates?
[05:39] <imed> alq
[05:39] <ZykoticK9> Jeffsi, do you know what card it actually is?  specifically what chipset it uses?  does it work in other GNU/Linux distros?  how many NICs do you have?
[05:39] <qin> darnell: You mean like all of updates?
[05:40] <darnell> qin: i get repo errors for the InRelease packages
[05:40] <darnell> this is a fresh install of 11.04
[05:40] <darnell> some repo packages succeed with the download and the InRelease packages do not
[05:41] <Jeffsi> ZykoticK9: i have a pci card and a mobo ethernet port and i am wanting to use the mobo one not the pci
[05:41] <gulzar> imed: qin: I want to change the partition table but don't want to loose Xubuntu setup and configurations. So is it possible to save /home and /
[05:41] <adminewb> cpu core voltage control, perhaps through sysfs, anyone? cpufreq interface is not quite enough.
[05:41] <Jeffsi> i do know what the mobo number is if u need that
[05:42] <imed> gulzar, what about a free partition?
[05:42] <ZykoticK9> Jeffsi, sorry I can't really help - I can't even search online for a NIC that we don't know... but if lspci isn't show it - it means the kernel doesn't see it.  Are you sure it is turned on in BIOS?
[05:43] <imed> install in that and keep all the rest and then copy to the new one
[05:43] <Jeffsi> ZykoticK9: no, i can check quick
[05:43] <qin> darnell: No Natty here to check ;(
[05:44] <gulzar> imed: i can keep one partiton for storing the file
[05:44] <gulzar> imed; others will change....
[05:44] <darnell> qin: aahhhh, i have also tried mirrors, i get alot of 404s :(
[05:45] <ZykoticK9> gulzar, you will probably want to use "cp -r /path/from /path/destination" the -r is recursive to copy everything underneath
[05:45] <darnell> can anybody report fetching failures in update manager when checking for updates?
[05:45] <imed> gulzar, yep, partitions are totally sandboxed
[05:45] <Jeffsi> ZykoticK9: i dont even see it in here, i may not be looking in the right place though
[05:45] <ZykoticK9> darnell, if updates are failing - you should try switching your mirror (somewhere in U.S.C.)
[05:46] <imed> darnell, sorry not right now
[05:46] <darnell> ZykoticK9: I have tried other mirrors yet it still fails to fetch a few packages
[05:46] <ZykoticK9> Jeffsi, not all BIOS have the option to enable/disable onboard NICs - but some do.  If you don't remember disabling it at some point - it's probably NOT an issue.
[05:47] <gulzar> ZykoticK9: imed:  ok...........and what about the configuration files in / like about the previous partitions? I have to change them so that Xubuntu will recognise them and will able to mount . Is it so?
[05:47] <ZykoticK9> darnell, the packages that are failing - are they from Ubuntu - or is it PPAs or 3rd party packages that are failing?
[05:47] <Jeffsi> ZykoticK9: this computer was not originally mine, is there a name it may be under?
[05:48] <bethany> i am having a issue playing vidros on my pc
[05:48] <ZykoticK9> Jeffsi, Device Configuration or something along those lines "usually"
[05:48] <bigeye> Hi, Can I register tmux to keyboard shortcut? It should be run in terminal, but I can't find a way to make it run in terminal. I'm using Ubuntu 11.04.
[05:48] <Jeffsi> no im in that, i mean the network card
[05:48] <Jeffsi> ZykoticK9: there are so many items in here
[05:49] <darnell> ZykoticK9: the InRelease packages that keep failing are from the mirror
[05:49] <qin> bigeye: /j #tmux (very nice channel)
[05:49] <ZykoticK9> Jeffsi, Ethernet or Network is all i can think of.
[05:49] <bethany> more specifically DVD's can anyone help me get it working? when i try to play it in movie player i get a error cannot reade source
[05:49] <ZykoticK9> darnell, i've never heard of InRelease before... sorry.
[05:49] <darnell> its one of the repo packages ubuntu downloads
[05:50] <bigeye> qin: My question is about ubuntu keyboard shortcuts. anyway, thanks.
[05:50] <darnell> its having trouble downloading some repo packages, not the updates
[05:50] <qin> bigeye: Keybindings are configured in ~/.tmux.conf
[05:50] <Jeffsi> ZykoticK9: would it maybe be CIR or Midi?
[05:50] <qin> bigeye: making shortcuts via gnome do not make sens.
[05:50] <imed> gulzar, the / partition is where the core system runs
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> Jeffsi, not midi that's for sure - don't know what CIR would be?  but i doubt that's a NIC...
[05:51] <bigeye> qin: I mean, Register launching tmux, not in tmux.
[05:51] <imed> you have to keep it if you want to use it
[05:51] <bigeye> like launching terminal
[05:51] <gulzar> imed: right but there must be some file which holds configuration about the partitons ?
[05:51] <bigeye> Actually, I want to launch tmux when I press C-M-T
[05:52] <imed> gulzar, /etc/fstab
[05:52] <qin> bigeye: So, you want to lauch terminal with command: gnome-terminal -e bash tmux (more-less like this)
[05:52] <gulzar> imed: Ok then its done.........
[05:53] <gulzar> imed: ZykoticK9: Thank You!
[05:53] <imed> gulzar, welcome :)
[05:53] <ZykoticK9> darnell, could you pastebin the output of your "sudo apt-get update"?
[05:54] <darnell> ZykoticK9: sure thing
[05:54] <Jeffsi> ZykoticK9: well i enabled that CIR but i doubt that will do it, anyway i can fix this?
[05:54] <bigeye> qin: It works!! Thank you :) It is what I was looking for.
[05:55] <darnell> http://pastebin.com/MBKqTNts
[05:55] <ZykoticK9> Jeffsi, does the NIC work from a LiveCD?  It is possible the nic isn't supported (VERY rare in GNU/Linux for a NIC not to work though)
[05:55] <little> what is jpeg encryption algorithm
[05:55] <little> ?
[05:55] <little> tel me anything related to jpeg encryption algorithm
[05:56] <Jeffsi> ZykoticK9: no, it doesnt work on live cd
[05:56] <little> hello could any one help me related to jpeg encrytion
[05:57] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: what nic's he got that it's not supported?
[05:57] <qin> Good Day to All! Time to rest.
[05:57] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: sorry just got here
[05:57] <ZykoticK9> celthunder, we have no idea - lspci doesn't show it - and they're not sure.
[05:58] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: hmm is it plugged in tightly? bios see it?
[05:58] <ZykoticK9> celthunder, which does make trouble shooting difficult.  It's an onboard NIC so plugging isn't an issue.  They don't see anything in BIOS for NIC either???
[05:59] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: ouch...network boot an option usually that displays some info on the nic at the least (or motherboard model would be nice)
[06:00] <Guest97116> ccan anyone tell me after installing python in backtrack where do i find it in applications to run it?
[06:00] <bethany> i am having a issue playing videos on my pc
[06:00] <darnell> ZykoticZ9: http://pastebin.com/MBKqTNts
[06:00] <bethany> more specifically DVD's can anyone help me get it working? when i try to play it in movie player i get a error cannot reade source
[06:00] <ZykoticK9> celthunder, well - if you want to go down that road - please do.  As I have nothing at this point.
[06:00] <celthunder> Guest97116: python won't be in app's you run it from a command line
[06:00] <gry> Guest97116: what would you be trying to run there ?
[06:00] <Guest97116> do i just put python in command?
[06:01] <imed> darnell, ping to mirror.its.uidaho.edu is false
[06:01] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: idk what you've done like i said...just got here...offering my off the wall ideas from the one or two statements i saw as joining
[06:01] <gry> Guest97116: generally yes
[06:01] <ZykoticK9> darnell, sorry, yes I checked our pastebin before - i don't really see what is wrong - only suggestion would be try changing mirrors.  Best of luck!
[06:01] <Guest97116> because i also installed python idle how do i run that
[06:01] <Guest97116> basically i want to have a shell for a script im new to backtrack
[06:01] <gry> Guest97116: python idle is an dev environment, it's in apps -> programming -> idle
[06:01] <ZykoticK9> celthunder, we haven't "done" anything - other then lspci isn't showing the NIC in question and nothing in BIOS.
[06:02] <darnell> Thanks, but i already changed mirrors 10 times haha, well ill find a solution somewhere... Thanks for you help
[06:02] <gry> Guest97116: shell for script is applications > accessories > terminal.
[06:02] <Guest97116> gry programming is in ubuntu im talking about backtrack
[06:03] <ZykoticK9> celthunder, it also doesn't work from LiveCD (but i think you must have seen that part ;)
[06:03] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: yep saw that
[06:03] <Guest97116> how do i run a python shell in backtrack?
[06:03] <Guest97116> anyone?
[06:03] <gry> Guest97116: you in #ubuntu, try ##linux or #backtrack for that
[06:03] <celthunder> Guest97116: Python is ain interpretor not a shell...and you can run it by typing python in a terminal
[06:03] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: lshw see it?
[06:04] <Guest97116> tx but i've seen peeps running a shell like idle python actually is type of shell
[06:04] <Guest97116> but thankx gry & celthunder
[06:04] <ZykoticK9> Jeffsi, celthunder has a good idea - "sudo lshw" and see if you see further info about this mystery NIC.
[06:04] <Guest97116> i just have 1 more ?
[06:04] <saad__> hi everyone
[06:05] <Guest97116> if i have a script or made a script & want to run it how will that be possible if i just write python & i get >>>
[06:05] <celthunder> Guest97116: python <script>
[06:05] <gry> Guest97116, Ubuntu's Terminal does that, not sure where you can find that in another distruibution, sorry
[06:05] <Guest97116> tx gry
[06:06] <gry> Guest97116, there is ##linux for general questions like that if you like
[06:06] <saad__> fellow do you have any clue why my vlc player's screen is blue when ever i right click on it?
[06:06] <gry> saad__, please give version details to this channel
[06:06] <Guest97116> celthunder python <script> ya but how do i actually run it
[06:06] <saad__> xubuntu 11.4
[06:07] <celthunder> Guest97116: ????  that DOES run it....
[06:07] <gry> Guest97116, in shell/bash/terminal, try looking for it in your system menu and ask its channel please
[06:07] <saad__> vlc 1.1.9
[06:07] <Guest97116> ok tx gry & celthunder im gonna give it a try
[06:07] <Guest97116> tx for all the help
[06:07] <Jeffsi> ZykoticK9: i dont see it, i think
[06:08] <saad__> fellows do you have any clue why my vlc player's screen is blue when ever i right click on it? im running xubuntu natty with vlc 1.1.9
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> Jeffsi, well I'm afraid I got nothing at this point.  Best of luck, hope you find a solutions!
[06:09] <JCii> join #pmap
[06:09] <bethany> i am having a issue playing videos on my pc
[06:09] <bethany> more specifically DVD's can anyone help me get it working? when i try to play it in movie player i get a error cannot reade source
[06:09] <Jeffsi> ZykoticK9: thanks for trying
[06:10] <ZykoticK9> !dvd | bethany
[06:10] <ricky_> hello
[06:10] <bethany> thqankyou
[06:10] <gry> Guest1223: Hi.
[06:15] <bullgard4> The package»rtkit« is installed. Why does there not run a process rtkit-daemon continuously in Ubuntu?
[06:16] <Airris> can anyone think of a reason why ldconfig isn't indexing libraries? I have it in -v mode and it'll find two of them, but it'll never actually add it to the cache
[06:17] <deekr> I'm running natty on a VM in vista. I just installed ubu and set up unity, but the windowing system is still classic gnome. where would I go to fix this?
[06:17] <tntc> deekr: which virtualization software are you using?
[06:18] <deekr> tntc, virtual box
[06:18] <deekr> latest version
[06:18] <tntc> deekr: did you enable 3d support in the display settings of virtual box?
[06:18] <deekr> yes
[06:19] <tntc> guest tools as well?
[06:19] <deekr> but when it first ran ubu during setup, it said that I didn't have the correct hardware and went into classic mode
[06:19] <deekr> after the installation, I mounted and ran the guest tools
[06:20] <deekr> then did an update, and restarted, but alas, still classic
[06:20] <tntc> ok. at the login screen, down near the bottom, there should be an option for the session
[06:20] <deekr> I believe it was Ubuntu, ill restart
[06:20] <MaxPrt> whats a good VPN client which allows the use of a pin and a pass key?
[06:21] <deekr> note that the unity panel on the left appears
[06:21] <deekr> just the windowing system is classic
[06:21] <tntc> huh... that's odd
[06:21] <deekr> ill post a screenshot once it restarts
[06:23] <gry> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient MaxPrt
[06:24] <deekr> I think I'm using the wrong words here
[06:24] <leftist> is this the correct version for deb/ubuntu?  Linux x86 - Self Extracting Installer20.63 MB   jre-6u26-linux-i586.bin
[06:24] <deekr> the windowing system is okay
[06:25] <deekr> but some of the menus and the main unity menu look classic
[06:25] <leftist> i need this for a server i am configuring
[06:25] <ZykoticK9> leftist, if you want java simply add the partner repo and install using apt
[06:25] <ZykoticK9> !java | leftist
[06:26] <leftist> ok thanks
[06:26] <MaxPrt> gry: cheers
[06:26] <deekr> tntc, http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=14100
[06:27] <PAB_> gpu hung regularlly using i7-2600k, ubuntu 11.04, 2.6.38. tried 2.6.39 and 3.0rc4. doesn't change situation. hanging latest after a few minutes. do i need to change kernel parameters? any suggestions?
[06:27] <rhin0> maybe disable compiz PAB_
[06:28] <rhin0> compiz -- in my experieence can cause lockups
[06:28] <Airris> can anyone think of a reason why ldconfig isn't indexing libraries? I have it in -v mode and it'll say it found two of them, but it'll never actually add it to the cache
[06:28] <rhin0> reportedly "gpu hog" and can be problematic
[06:29] <PAB_> thx. i will follow your hints
[06:29] <tntc> deekr: huh. that is weird... I dunno how to explain that. A theme?
[06:29] <tntc> not sure.
[06:31] <gulzar> is something there for indicator applet, which tells about the new recieved emails and unread emails using thunderbird. ?
[06:32] <ZykoticK9> gulzar, "apt-cache search indicator" i'm pretty sure there is one for Thunderbird
[06:36] <dude> hello?
[06:36] <rhin0> dude - hello
[06:36] <dude> hows it be?
[06:37] <dude> anyone here?
[06:39] <gulzar> ZykoticK9: Thank You! got one for gmail....... 'gm-notify'
[06:40] <ZykoticK9> gulzar, glad to help
[06:41] <Luxe> Night <3
[06:56] <Vustom> In Root Terminal how do I create this file? "/etc/cron.hourly/sync.sh" and then gedit it?
[06:59] <gry> Vustom: "nano /etc/cron.hourly/sync.sh" will open it in nano, you will be able to edit and save it
[07:00] <Vustom> Thanks. C:
[07:00] <gry> Vustom: "sudo nano /etc/cron.hourly/sync.sh" even -- you don't need to be in root Terminal for that
[07:03] <darko> What are some of your guys favorite music players?
[07:06] <deekr> I'm having trouble with unity on a virtualbox vm. The classic gnome menu is being used instead of the unity menu. (http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=14100) How do I restore the unity menu?
[07:06] <pRoV7x>  eone helps.
[07:06] <pRoV7x>  bwinton_away<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit IRC Ping timeout
[07:06] <pRoV7x>  sorry
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[07:10] <Test_> Is Is it possible to test Unity on 11.04 live cd?  I am on it right now but unity is not displaying
[07:12] <pRoV7s>  i use thunderbird 3.1.4 on Ubuntu 10.10, and linked to my Hotmail email, how can i get it autmatically download the folders and emails from my Hotmail account, and the subfolders, please someone helps.
[07:13] <neuro_damage> what's a good/smart way to remove the gnome and gui components on a ubuntu desktop and convert it to a server?
[07:13] <Test_> pRoV7s:  I would look into IMAP
[07:14] <pRoV7s>  Test_: what do you mean
[07:14] <Vustom> I can't seem to launch Conky with a theme, I try running "/home/.conky/NightDrive/start_conky.sh" in the terminal but it doesn't work..
[07:14] <kennett> I'm trying to send some files to another computer I have through ethernet but not sure how to connect to it.
[07:14] <Test_> pRoV7s:  Create a IMAP account.  You can download your messages and delete them.  Its basically like your visiting gmail.com
[07:15]  * deekr switching to 10.04
[07:15] <pRoV7s>  Test_: how about the subfolders
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[07:15] <Test_> pRoV7s:  It does everything
[07:15] <pRoV7s>  that in my account in Hotmail
[07:15] <deekr> what a friggin pain, I only use the onsole anyway :P
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> Test_: unity should be default on livecd, are you installing on an older system or logged into gnome classic?
[07:15] <deekr> *console
[07:15] <Test_> lotuspsychje:  My box is really sweet, I think it may be the fact I have a Nvidia 9800 gt
[07:16] <pRoV7s>  Test_: how can i do that
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> Test_:did you install the nvidia additional drivers?
[07:16] <Test_> lotuspsychje: Can you do that on a live cd?
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> Test_: if the box has an internet connection, yes
[07:17] <Test_> lotuspsychje: Yeah I am on the live cd now, but didn't see any restricted drivers pop up
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> Test_: so if unity did not load, are you on classic right now?
[07:18] <Test_> Well it seems to be classic
[07:18] <kennett> How do I connect 2 computers together? 1 is ubuntu other is win xp home.
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> Test_: try loggin out and load ubuntu default(unity) and look what error u get
[07:18]  * deekr slaps head... nvidia drivers
[07:19] <Test_> lotuspsychje: I did that.  The selction says "Ubuntu"
[07:19] <Test_> It's not on the classic one
[07:19] <Test_> but I think it still is defaulting to classic
[07:19] <Vustom> When I try and start Conky with the NightDrive theme I get this error; http://paste.ubuntu.com/631649/; How can I fix this?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> Test_: i had the same promblem installing on an older system, seems like its switching to default as it does not recognize some drivers maybe?
[07:20] <gry> a: hi
[07:20] <a> 56323
[07:20] <Test_> lotuspsychje:  How did you fix it?  My box is actually quite nice, it's still considered top notch at over 2 years old
[07:20] <Guest34600> ?
[07:21] <Guest34600> ???
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> Test_: did you try a clean install or u still testing on livecd?
[07:21] <rhin0> hardware is amazing now -- I find myself with 7 processors over 2 machines and 8 gig of RAM :)
[07:22] <karthick87> All of a sudden my file contents were missing it is showing as 1.5 kb
[07:22] <Test_> lotuspsychje: Testing on a live cd still.  Going to test unity before I decide to try out Fedora for Gnome 3.  I love gnome, so not to thrilled about the unity bit.  But I know 11.10 has Gnome 3..but that's alpha..so no good for me atm
[07:22] <karthick87> Is it a bug with open office?
[07:22] <devkorcvince> rhin0: i have 8 processor on 1 pclaptop with 16Gb
[07:22] <deekr> i find myself broke
[07:22] <rhin0> crikey devkorcvince
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> Test_: i highly recommend clean install with installing additional drivers at boot install, unity is great on high end hardware
[07:23] <Test_> lotuspsychje: Mind if I PM you?
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> sure
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[07:24] <babu__> i want to list the history which contains either apt-get or aptitude....how to list it with the help of grep
[07:24] <gry> babu__: Bash history?
[07:25] <babu__> yes
[07:25] <gry> babu__: "cat ~/.bash_history"
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[07:25] <Loto> | grep apt
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[07:25] <gry> babu__: or "tail ~/.bash_history"
[07:26] <babu__> i don't want all.. i have to see only the commands i used with apt-get or aptitude
[07:26] <arooni-mobile> is there a way to get a hot key to the workspace switcher?
[07:26] <gry> Ah. "cat ~/.bash_history | grep apt-get"
[07:27] <gry> arooni-mobile: atrl+alt+[right/left]
[07:27] <gry> err
[07:27] <gry> ctrl+alt+[right/left]
[07:27] <Loto> if you just grep apt you'll get both
[07:27] <arooni-mobile> no i wan t the workspace switcher itself
[07:27] <gry> Sorry, I'm out of ideas there.
[07:27] <cannavist> when is the next release of ubuntu due?
[07:28] <Noir> hi people
[07:28] <gry> cannavist: See #ubuntu+1 topic.
[07:28] <IdleOne> !away > An0nym0uS_Sec
[07:28] <gry> cannavist: I suspect 10th month of 2011.
[07:28] <Noir> \leave
[07:28] <_Lucifer> for some reason my internal wifi card isn't available for use, but must be being seen since the usb one I'm currently on is labeled wlan1. I know it's compatible, I was using it before I hosed my install and reinstalled. any ideas? I'll probably need to give more information, what would that be?
[07:28] <cannavist> :(
[07:29] <cannavist> can anyone confirm if they have fixed the intel video driver bug in Unity?
[07:29] <cannavist> crashes every 30min and just logs me out
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> _Lucifer: did you clean install natty?
[07:29] <cannavist> Dell D630
[07:30] <ohzie> Hi everyone.
[07:30] <ohzie> =]
[07:30] <ohzie> _Lucifer: Hey man
[07:30] <gry> ohzie: Hi.
[07:31] <Blue1> cannavist: what version of ubuntu ru using?  hint:  cat /etc/issue
[07:31] <_Lucifer> lotuspsychje first time, no it was an upgrade. this time, mostly. only thing I saved from the last time was home, which I shrunk and mounted as it's own partition, then did a clean install other than that on a new one
[07:31] <cannavist> latest version
[07:32] <cannavist> well i'm on kubuntu now due to this issue
[07:32] <Blue1> cannavist: can I assume that's 11.04 then?
[07:32] <cannavist> yes
[07:32] <cannavist> switch to kubuntu 11.04
[07:32] <cannavist> kde is for the birds
[07:32] <cannavist> :/
[07:32] <Blue1> cannavist: when did this start?  before installing 11.04 or after?  did you do a clean install or an upgrade?
[07:32] <cannavist> clean install
[07:33] <marzen> can anyone tell me how to disable this stupid disk utility .. i know my 5 y/o hd is bad and don't need a reminder every 5 minutes
[07:33] <Blue1> cannavist: smart man!
[07:33] <dia> anyone know where a usb ubuntu would install a restricted driver?
[07:33] <cannavist> when natty was released
[07:33] <Blue1> cannavist: so the problems started with 11.04 NOT before? have you looked at the system log to see if there is any information there?
[07:34] <dia> i installed 10.04 off a usb but it doesn't have wireless; when i run it off the usb it finds and installs it (apparently) but i can't get it in the fully installed 10.04 >_<
[07:34] <kubanc> anyone knows where is shotdown menu in gnome3?
[07:34] <Blue1> dia: umm what kind of computer and or video card?  this sounds strangly familiar
[07:34] <cannavist> problem started with the unity release
[07:35] <dia> acer aspire one netbook
[07:35] <cannavist> gnome 2.6 runs fine
[07:35] <ohzie> _Lucifer: Can you pastebin an lshw please? For the wlan?
[07:35] <marzen> can anyone tell me how to disable this stupid disk utility .. i know my 5 y/o hd is bad and don't need a reminder every 5 minutes
[07:35] <ohzie> _Lucifer: I got disconnected, sorry
[07:35] <ohzie> My internet is on the fritz
[07:35] <dia> i'm running wireless on it atm when i have it set to the live usb ubuntu
[07:35] <Blue1> cannavist: what does the system log say?
[07:35] <dia> but the installed won't get internet
[07:36] <dia> if i reinstall (rather not) will the driver stay with the new install?
[07:36] <YankDownUnder> marzen, Check your startup applications mate.
[07:36] <Blue1> dia:  I think i had inssues on that - can you hold a moment?
[07:36] <cannavist> Blue1 i cant say
[07:36] <dia> sure blue1
[07:36] <cannavist> i havent learnt to reald sys logs yet
[07:36] <cannavist> :(
[07:36] <cannavist> where can i ready sys logs?
[07:37] <Blue1> dia: this might be your issue, and how I solved it:  http://pkill-9.com/getting-wireless-connect-to-work-for-acer-aspire-on-ubuntu/
[07:37] <Blue1> cannavist: dmesg
[07:37] <cannavist> wow this is alot of info
[07:37] <jkup> can someone direct me to the server channel
[07:37] <Blue1> dia: that was 10.04 desktop I had installed at the time.
[07:38] <dia> blue1, i don't have internet on the permanent install at all though
[07:38] <YankDownUnder> jkup, #ubuntu-server
[07:38] <dia> so how can i sudo apt-get anything?
[07:38] <jkup> thanks
[07:38] <marzen> YankDownUnder: where are the startup applications .. i can't find them in any config
[07:38] <Blue1> dia: even wired connection doesn't work?
[07:38] <cannavist> lord knows how to read this stuff
[07:38] <dia> i tried that, and no
[07:38] <cannavist> :/
[07:38] <_Lucifer> ohzie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/631656/
[07:38] <dia> idk if its the wired or the router
[07:39] <dia> we never use the wired
[07:39] <dia> wire or router*
[07:39] <YankDownUnder> marzen, Click SYSTEM => PREFERENCES => STARTUP APPLICATIONS => DISK NOTIFICATIONS
[07:39] <dia> it's all going through an old netgear wireless
[07:39] <Blue1> dia: well if it's wired, you'd have a cable out the side going to the router.....
[07:39] <dia> but when i tried hooking a cable from the router to the acer it was a no go
[07:39] <marzen> YankDownUnder: I'm on gnome 3 .. their is no system > preferences > startup
[07:40] <Blue1> dia: private message ok?
[07:40] <YankDownUnder> marzen, Um...well, you're going to have to look for your PREFERENCES => then look for STARTUP APPLICATIONS
[07:40] <marzen> YankDownUnder: looked through every possible menu ... nothing to indicate you can edit startup apps via gui
[07:40] <ohzie> _Lucifer: Looking at it
[07:41] <ohzie> _Lucifer: the BCM4318 doesn't work?
[07:42] <YankDownUnder> marzen, Being that I don't know (or want to know) Gnome3, mate, my best is to tell you to check the help or the Gnome3 site as the application "Disk Notificiations" is what is giving you the messages about your HD my friend.
[07:43] <marzen> YankDownUnder: yeah already tried that ... there's pretty much zero documentation on gnome 3 ... it's basically a big pile of shit
[07:43] <_Lucifer> ohzie: yeah. it worked on my previous install, and on my first boot of this install, but it isn't showing as an available device in the network manager on ever boot since then
[07:43] <IdleOne> marzen: please keep the language clean
[07:43] <bazhang> marzen, watch the language
[07:44] <jjovereats> :|
[07:44] <_Lucifer> ohzie *every
[07:45] <solars> will this mutt-patched bug in 11.04 ever be fixed? :(
[07:45] <solars> its unusable..
[07:45] <Cptn_Sandwich> hi, facebook is not working with gwibber. is that only me? twitter works fine, read and write
[07:46] <Blue1> !gwibber
[07:46] <ohzie> _Lucifer: Have you looked at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470146&highlight=HOWTO%3A+Broadcom yet? It apparently addresses this problem a bit. :(
[07:46] <Blue1> nor do i
[07:46] <ohzie> _Lucifer: but a lot of people have it, so it's not your fault
[07:46] <ohzie> _Lucifer: mostly a hardware thing I believe.
[07:46] <dia> anyone know where i can dl ubuntu drivers as files and how to install them onto another ubuntu that has no internet access?
[07:47] <Fishers> i read a blog how to use cube with unity. Unity is now broke. I tried restore commands an reinstalled unity with synaptic with no luck.
[07:47] <jjovereats> lol
[07:48] <IdleOne> jjovereats: save the lol's for #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:48] <Cptn_Sandwich> Blue1: whats with the exclamation mark?
[07:48] <_Lucifer> ohzie I'll check it out
[07:48] <jjovereats> i was saying, well oops! shouldn't have read the blog then...
[07:49] <freqmod_r> Are there more people which experience hash mismatches when getting packages and package lists (aptitude update)?
[07:49] <IdleOne> jjovereats: this channel is not for making sarcastic comments, people come here to get help not to be laughed at.
[07:50] <IdleOne> Please keep that in mind.
[07:51] <Blue1> Cptn_Sandwich: someone had asked a question about gwibber - I have no idea what that is - so thought that ubotto would know - it doesn't
[07:51] <jjovereats> :S
[07:51] <jjovereats> i'm out
[07:51] <anthony_> anyone here know how to make folders in plank?
[07:51] <Blue1> Cptn_Sandwich: another one I've never heard of - plank
[07:51] <Fishers> an the tick boxes are grayed out in compiz setting manager.  You might seriously consider picking up a different mini-pci wireless though.
[07:52] <ohzie> _Lucifer: Or I would, were I in your position. :[
[07:52] <kennett> How do I send files from ubuntu to a pc running win xp home?
[07:53] <anthony_> the docky launcher written in vala for the elementary project
[07:53] <Blue1> kennett: samba share
[07:53] <_Lucifer> ohzie well, I had it working before in 10.04 10.10 and 11.04, but since I hosed the install (I think it was when I changed the partition sizes, made it unbootable for some reason) and reinstalled, I downloaded the install package and it worked on the first boot, now it's not showing up. every other time it's been the firmware issue, it's shown in the network manager as there but unusable as there was no firmware. now it isn't showing at all, which is odd
[07:55] <dia> okay, i think i DLed the driver i need; now how do I make it work (it's in tar.gz atm)
[07:56] <_Lucifer> ohzie : getting it working the first time was actually the only hardware issue I've had with ubuntu (other than the communicator puck for the original xbox controller. probably should have checked compatibility before buying it. oh well, it was only three bucks)
[07:57] <leagris> hollo. How do I know packaged version within software-center?
[07:58] <leagris> While using Unity, How do I enable using <super> modifier to control compiz ezoom I absolutely need as a visually impaired?
[07:59] <leagris> Is there an ubuntu accessibility group/irc/support I can discuss and be heard about the upcoming changes affecting usability as it is the case with Unity and be listened to?
[08:00] <leagris> Does the Ubuntu teams really care about disabled users?
[08:00] <YankDownUnder> leagris, You're joking, right?
[08:00] <YankDownUnder> leagris, Even in the mailing list there's question about whether or not anyone is being listened to...
[08:01] <DJones> leagris: There is an #ubuntu-accessibilty channel which I think will be the one you need, although it is a relatively quiet channel
[08:01] <leagris> YankDownUnder, I am very serious about the Unity and compiz Ezoom feature incompatibility
[08:01] <Flannel> !accessibility | leagris
[08:01] <YankDownUnder> leagris, Bear in mind that "Unity" was pushed from the top, not from the bottom - it was a corporate decision.
[08:01] <leagris> thanks
[08:01] <wildbat> leagris: don't use unity then ~?
[08:02] <leagris> wildbat, I am very concerned as it will be pushed stronger in next releases
[08:03] <leagris> I really fear being left in the dark with forced Unity and the Unity stealing <super> modifier key and unable to control Ezoom
[08:03] <ubuntu__> hi
[08:04] <wildbat> leagris: you alway have choose to waht WM you use, and there is Ubuntu Classic you can pick with the login screen
[08:04] <jmalicki> anyone know how to brute-force ecryptfs if i lost my password?
[08:05] <osos> you can't.
[08:05] <jmalicki> (i changed my password as root, and didn't realize until i rebooted 3 weeks later that it doesn't update the wrap file)
[08:05] <ubuntu__> How do I reinstall GRUB for Ubuntu 10.10?
[08:05] <jmalicki> osos: umm, i said *brute force*
[08:05] <DJones> leagris: This is the web page for the accessibility team, there may be some pointers on who to discuss things with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility
[08:05] <jmalicki> i'm just wondering if there are tools or if i have to make my own
[08:06] <leagris> Cheers DJones, thanks
[08:07] <osos> jmalicki: http://ecryptfs.sourceforge.net/ecryptfs-faq.html#lostkey
[08:07] <glenn> how can i upgrade thunderbrid in ubuntu
[08:07] <jmalicki> osos: yes, you clearly don't understand what that means.
[08:07] <wildbat> jmalicki: brute forcing take way too long ~ which is impractical  for desktop pc ~
[08:07] <Fishers> brb
[08:07] <Ricoshady> how do I resive a partition?
[08:08] <Ricoshady> resize
[08:08] <jmalicki> wildbat: luckily, i have a gpu cluster almost large enough for the top500.
[08:08] <jmalicki> i am just looking for tools
[08:08] <jmalicki> besides, i know it's a restricted space
[08:08] <jmalicki> since it was a password i created
[08:08] <jmalicki> i understand cryptography
[08:08] <jmalicki> i am only wondering if there are extant tools
[08:11] <osos> jmalicki: manners, my son, manners.
[08:11] <tarelerulz> anyone gotten all there hardware working with Ubuntu?
[08:12] <dia> which ubuntu tare? I had everything on my vaio laptop working with 10.04
[08:12] <dpnux> can I upgrade homebank to latest version 4.4 in ubuntu 10.04?
[08:12] <dia> took a while to get the webcam working -_- but everything else was easy
[08:12] <jmalicki> tareerulz: no. noone has ever gotten their hardware working w/ ubuntu
[08:12] <tarelerulz> I have a vaio ?
[08:12] <glenn> how can i upgrade thunderbird in ubuntu
[08:13] <tensorpudding> glenn: does it have updates?
[08:13] <dia> sony vaio tare
[08:14] <_Lucifer> glenn: upgrade how? the version in the repos is one version, just updating should upgrade that one. there are newer builds in some ppas if that's what you're looking for, you would need to add the ppa as a source
[08:14]  * dia hopes the driver i installed on the live USB carries over to the new intall i'm starting
[08:15] <tarelerulz> I have a sony vaio myself. I have yet to get the mic or web come working .
[08:15] <dia> those took me a while tare, but that was back when i first got it
[08:15] <stratis> i can't boot from 2nd raid disk (sda & sdb)
[08:15] <dia> haven't really bothered since as I don't use the camera and the mic works fine
[08:15] <acp_> can any one direct me to a how-to make internal mic for thinkpad edge 11 work in 10.04 amd64? or do I need to update my kernel Im using 2.6.32-32-generic
[08:15] <stratis> any help
[08:15] <tarelerulz> any tips
[08:16] <iflema> !tab
[08:16] <dia> gimme a min to remember...
[08:16] <AndroidLoverInSF> how can i specify a /etc/fstab cifs mount so that whatever i save into the mount point is rwx by all?
[08:16] <dia> you first gotta find out what camera you have lsusb is the command... i think
[08:16] <lifulinghan> hello anyone
[08:17] <glenn> thuderbird have now 3.1.11 asl version but i can't update it to that version
[08:17] <dia> then you just do a LOT of google searching for a driver
[08:17] <mksystems-online> hello and morning all
[08:18] <lifulinghan> morning?
[08:18] <dia> tarelerulz; pm
[08:18] <lifulinghan> now is pm
[08:19] <lifulinghan> time is 15:18 now
[08:19] <mksystems-online> am here lol
[08:19] <anthony_> tarelerulz, did you go into your sound options and see if the mute on your mic is unchecked?
[08:19] <_Lucifer> glenn: is that a stable version, or a daily build? stable is what is in the official repos I believe, but there is a daily build ppa you can add
[08:19] <acp_> any one ?
[08:20] <glenn> _Lucifer, its a stable version
[08:20] <lifulinghan> sorry for my english
[08:20] <rypervenche> acp_: I would recommend getting a PPA for a new kernel
[08:20] <lifulinghan> why not chat by chinese?
[08:21] <gry> lifulinghan: most of us do not know Chinese, sorry
[08:21] <DJones> lifulinghan: There is a dedicated chinese language channel at #ubuntu-cn if that would be easier for you, this channel is specifically for english language
[08:21] <DJones> !cn
[08:21] <lifulinghan> thanks
[08:21] <acp_> thanks rypervenche, so I really need to update my kernel. coz I tweak my alsa-base.conf with the 'options snd-hda-intel model=ideapad' but still did not work
[08:22] <rypervenche> acp_: I'll see if I can find one for you. I heard someone did it the other day.
[08:24] <acp_> rypervenche, I was hoping my last option is to update my kernel, but if there are other workaround that would be great any way I just need it for skype. but if I used my headset it work well
[08:25] <glontu> hi
[08:25] <_Lucifer> glenn: you sure? even the official Mozilla ppa for thunderbird stable releases, which usually gets the stable releases before the main repos, is showing 3.1.10 build1 as the latest stable
[08:25] <rypervenche> acp_: I understand. I had the exact same problem, and updating my kernel fixed it as well.
[08:26] <glontu> i have a computer which i intend to use as a router with 2 wans and 1 lan. It should have a main wan and a fallback wan. When on one of the wans it should continuously monitor the uplinks and when the main wan fails it should go to the secondary wan
[08:27] <glontu> when the main wan is up ( we determine this by pingign gateways ) it should come back to the main wan
[08:27] <glontu> so
[08:27] <glontu> what's the best approach to solve this ?
[08:27] <glontu> i need to run the script as root
[08:27] <glontu> and i need my script to be ran when the computer is booted
[08:27] <glontu> also the thing that keeps pinging the gateways should run continuously
[08:27] <glontu> any thoughts that may help ?
[08:28] <rypervenche> http://ubuntuguide.net/install-latest-kernel-2-6-37-2-6-38-in-ubuntu-10-04-from-ppa
[08:28] <rypervenche> acp_: ^
[08:29] <acp_> looking at the link thanks
[08:30] <rypervenche> acp_: Actually no, it's in the normal backports, I'm sorry.
[08:32] <glenn> _Lucifer what is the url to the offical mozilla ppa
[08:32] <satya> hi
[08:32] <test_> hi, newbie needing help here, problem with login loop
[08:33] <satya> is irc is sleeping?
[08:33] <gry> test_: Ask away. :)
[08:33] <gry> satya: Hello there.
[08:33] <_Lucifer> glenn: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-stable for the web based one that shows the packages available
[08:34] <darmster> :)
[08:34] <sammmy> Everytime I suspend or hibernate all my applications are gone when I come back.
[08:34] <test_> using xubuntu natty, 2 days ago everything was fine, and since yesterday i can't login with my original account; tried some so-called solutions i found online but none really worked
[08:35] <_Lucifer> glenn I'm pretty sure it's official at least. the user is supervising several Mozilla projects
[08:35]  * darmster going to bed
[08:38] <glenn> _Lucifer, did you now that ubuntu get upgrade to the stable version higher than 3.1.10
[08:43] <test_> gry: using xubuntu natty, 2 days ago everything was fine, and since yesterday i can't login with my original account; tried some so-called solutions i found online but none really worked (sorry, should i address who i want to talk to here or just throw the question to the round?)
[08:45] <ectospasm> !ask | test_
[08:46] <toto654> test_: what happened 2 days ago
[08:47] <_Lucifer> glenn: ah, it is stable, but it hasn't been added to the repos yet. you can download straight from Mozilla and install from source if you want though
[08:47] <toto654> firefox 5.0 ???
[08:50] <test_> thx; as i said i'm a newbie and since 2 days now i can't really login into my original account; everytime after i put in the right password, the screen goes dark for a short blink (if any help, looks like the logout screen, too fast to read) no splash screen and i'm back to the login screen, and before the problem, i don't think i made any major changes
[08:51] <toto654> test_: I meant was it from an upgrade?
[08:51] <vpark> hi
[08:51] <test_> don't think so
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> :-)
[08:51] <wsagent> test_ may be its graphics card issue
[08:52] <Clerisy> my taskbar isn't showing up?
[08:52] <L551> Hello. I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04, and now touchpad scroll no longer works. Can someone help?
[08:52] <toto654> I'm still on 10.10 ;)
[08:52] <wildbat> test_:  try to change session to failsafe see if you can login ?
[08:53] <Mandrew> when i do a memmory test with the live cd doest it check the hdd, processor and ram, or have i got it all wrong?
[08:54] <wildbat> j
[08:54] <test_> well, the thing is i made this new user (i.e. i can get in from ctrl+alt f2 and such) but not into the desktop, and this user works just fine
[08:54] <Clerisy> Does anybody know how I can get my taskbar back?
[08:54] <leftist> what is an alternative to nano? i forget now. i dont want to fuss with vi forgot the commands now
[08:54] <wildbat> Mandrew: memtest only test ram
[08:54] <Mandrew> damn :(
[08:55] <Mandrew> tnx wildbat
[08:55] <Mandrew> what can i do to check the processor?
[08:55] <ectospasm> Mandrew: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[08:55] <Mandrew> ok
[08:56] <ectospasm> oh, you actually want to test it?
[08:56] <ectospasm> I use mprime http://mersenne.org
[08:56] <ectospasm> Mandrew: mprime will test both CPU and RAM intensively
[08:56] <wildbat> !panelreset | Clerisy
[08:56] <wsagent> clerisy: it seems like your local profile got messed up
[08:57] <Clerisy> gnome-panel: no process found
[08:57] <farr3ll> i got a problem here . after i install the ATI VGA driver ,and reboot the system ,all i can see is just a blank , i pressed the enter key then i heard the sound ,i enter the passwd ,it's still blank on the screen.now i can do nothing with that ! what can i do to fix that? can here someone help me ?
[08:57] <Mandrew> i get this strange error when i try to update a newly installed distro, i get booted out when i try to update the software in it
[08:58] <wildbat> Clerisy:  gnome-panel --replace
[08:58] <Clerisy> thanks wildbat
[08:59] <sammmy> How do I get hibernate to work on my laptop?
[08:59] <Clerisy> wildbat» .. it gave me back the ubuntu one
[08:59] <Clerisy> I had a different one
[08:59] <Clerisy> ヽ(´ー｀)ﾉ
[08:59] <FloodBot1> Clerisy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:00] <wsagent> clerisy: delete the recently-used.xbel file found in your home directory
[09:00] <Clerisy> no such file wsagent
[09:00] <wsagent> its a hidden file
[09:00] <sveinse> I want to install a package where one of the dependencies should not be followed. I.e. The dependency has been locally installed under /usr/local, so apt should not install this dependency. How should I do that? 1) Install the package and break the system deps or 2) Fake that the dependency has been installed?
[09:00] <Clerisy> i know
[09:00] <Clerisy> i cant see it wsagent
[09:01] <wsagent> did you hit ctrl+h in home folder
[09:01] <Clerisy> yes.. lol
[09:01] <Clerisy> it's not a file wsagent
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> anyone knows if natty can be installed on an ipad yet?
[09:01] <wsagent> then you must do the home folder deletion method
[09:01] <toto654> lotuspsychje: why would u do that lol
[09:01] <Clerisy> wsagent» note I'm not on gnome
[09:01] <Clerisy> lol
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> toto654: would be nice to have linux on there
[09:02] <wsagent> clerisy then ?
[09:02] <toto654> lotuspsychje: is it possible?
[09:02] <Mandrew>  lotuspsychje its cheaper to buy one with linux preinstalled
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> tot654: i know there's a project running for ubuntu on ipad somewhere
[09:03] <Clerisy> wsagent» xfce
[09:03] <toto654> yeah but i mean...ipad is just a gadget...i dont see the use to install linux in it
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> tot654= Ios is already linux based...
[09:04] <vpark> using 10.10, with the following msg displayed, the system hangs   -    (process:395) GLib-Warning **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id (0)
[09:05] <Clerisy> how do I kill a process and make sure it doesnt restart?