[07:45] <quellhorst> ompaul, its required by my job to have it going and the application needs this version... the other option is to install from .tar.gz
[07:45] <ompaul> nickrud, did you fixt that
[07:46] <nickrud> ompaul, about to, I just checked to be sure it existed
[07:46] <intelikey> ubuntu is going to dapper out in about 3 months ?
[07:46] <_tristanmike> LinuxNoob: yup
[07:46] <_tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you're using gnome-look.org I assume ?
[07:46] <ompaul> quellhorst, well to compile stuff >>sudo apt-get install build essential<< before you go installing it
[07:47] <ompaul> gnomefreak, u there?
[07:47] <gnomefreak> yeah kind of
[07:47] <ompaul> see the pm from a little while ago
[07:47] <arrick> hey I'm finally on thgough XP pro
[07:47] <gnomefreak> i didnt get one
[07:47] <michoelc> hi all. last night i managed to start ubuntu for the first time. now i would like to connect to my wireless network. the ubuntu install did not recognize the card (NETGEAR WG111v2 wireless usb). it shows up in device manager as unkown usb device. any one can help me?
[07:48] <_tristanmike> arrick: you're on xp pro? this is a good thing ? :P
[07:48] <LinuxNoob> _tristanmike, : http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32146    did the same thing...but how do I enable it so all the icons change?
[07:48] <arrick> _tristanmike, man I work with xp pro everyday, and I needed to set my dual boot up so I could work, but I wanted to be in here learning at the same time
[07:50] <Kasei^> Hi I am having some problem with torrentd.
[07:51] <_tristanmike> LinuxNoob: well, hmm, same way, go to "Theme Details" and select "Icons" after it's installed, but the only icons that will change are the icons in the theme, I've yet to get an icon theme that just works, it's usually missing some important thing, like an icon for "show desktop" so all I end up getting is a page with an "x" for an icon, like it's broken, but they should be there
[07:51] <JazzCrazed> hey everybody
[07:51] <arrick> !ICON
[07:51] <ubotu> arrick: I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:51] <arrick> !icon
[07:51] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[07:52] <arrick> !icons
[07:52] <ubotu> If you have missing icons after upgrading to Breezy, change theme at System -> Preferences -> Theme
[07:52] <Kasei^> I mean I looked at my bro's windows screen while he was downloading siomething with azureus. And now i turned to kubuntu, and took the same torrent in bittornado. My bro's one was moving around 40 kb/s and my is 0. What is going on? I'ts not the first time when linux torrent is slower than windows one. Maybe the reasoon is that i am using old version of bittornado from respos?
[07:53] <jbroome> Kasei^: are the BT ports forwarded to your bro's computer?
[07:53] <jbroome> Kasei^: you're probably not getting through your firewall
[07:53] <arrick> hey guys, mIRC for windows is shareware, is there a freeware version anywhere that I can get for my XP client?
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> free version of mirc? Ugh.
[07:53] <trappist> arrick: wrong channel man
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> I use xchat under windows.
[07:54] <jbroome> arrick: xchat or hydrairc
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> "Friends dont let friends use mIRC"
[07:54] <arrick> yeah I want to run the chat in here, so I can learn while working in xp
[07:54] <arrick> ok
[07:54] <LinuxNoob> _tristanmike, : Sweet !
[07:54] <Kasei^> jbroome, so how can i switch off firewall in kubuntu?
[07:54] <LinuxNoob> _tristanmike, : These Icons look amazing c",)
[07:54] <arrick> I odnt even like the interface of mIRC, thats why I want something else
[07:54] <jbroome> Kasei^: not in kubuntu
[07:55] <Raquelita> hola
[07:55] <Raquelita> hello
[07:55] <jbroome> Kasei^: what ever is between your broadband device and the rest of your lan
[07:55] <JazzCrazed> can i use symlink to make two hard drives appear as one samba share?
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  theres free versions of xchat for windows - the 'official' windows xchat version is not free. *yes its odd*
[07:56] <trappist> in windows I just use putty to connect my screened irssi session
[07:56] <Kasei^> jbroome, so what schould i to make torrents go faster
[07:56] <Kasei^> '?
[07:56] <rkalsi> Hi Guys. first timer installing ubuntu. Got stuck at Installing the base system step...
[07:56] <arrick> Dr_Willis, you have a link for the free?
[07:56] <_tristanmike> LinuxNoob: can I have a link, I'm always on the lookout for cool icon themes :)
[07:56] <Dr_Willis> arrick,  google.com :P
[07:56] <trappist> rkalsi: first guess there is 'bad cd'
[07:57] <Col> hey all
[07:57] <rkalsi> At about 6%, it complains about not being able to download smome package & then gives an error & stops
[07:57] <rkalsi> trappist, i tried with 2 different CDs
[07:57] <rkalsi> inboth cases, it gets stuck at 6%
[07:57] <LinuxNoob> _tristanmike, : http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=32146
[07:57] <rkalsi> so there is surely, sthing else going wrong
[07:57] <trappist> rkalsi: you burned these yourself?
[07:57] <arrick> rkalsi, did you run the checksum thing?
[07:57] <rkalsi> One via post, the other i burned frm iso..
[07:58] <trappist> rkalsi: if the cd's are good, my next guess is bad hard drive or damaged filesystem - you could try reformatting
[07:58] <rkalsi> I did,, that doesnt complain at all..
[07:58] <rkalsi> formatting seems all good.
[07:58] <jbroome> Kasei^: check out the docs for your FW to see how to forward ports
[07:58] <arrick> ok, brb
[07:58] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: tank ya =)
[07:58] <JethroTull> If I use the Ubuntu BB LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card?
[07:58] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: wut a coincidence, i'm using those icons right now
[07:58] <trappist> rkalsi: happen to know what package and the text of the error message?
[07:58] <pounard> yop
[07:58] <rkalsi>  question ? WHat are the basic partitions needed ?
[07:59] <rkalsi> I have root, /home & swap memory
[07:59] <trappist> rkalsi: you can get away with just / - how to partition depends on how you plan to use it
[07:59] <rkalsi> trappist, the errors go of too fast, cant really tell which one is the first
[07:59] <rkalsi> it seems to be some ;libraries..
[07:59] <LinuxNoob> JazzCrazed, : They are very smooth :D
[07:59] <tristanmike> JethroTull: love the nic :)
[07:59] <JethroTull> Def.
[07:59] <JazzCrazed> yea, i'm a big fan so far
[08:00] <rkalsi> trappist: any other ideas, other than bad disk,?
[08:00] <JethroTull> I'm more of a Beatles/Bob Dylan guy though...
[08:00] <LinuxNoob> but I can't seem to change the icons in the top bar..... just that boring firefox and gaim icons
[08:00] <Arrick> ok, Dr_Willis, thats better, thanks
[08:00] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you should be able to right click, select properties, and change individually
[08:00] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: i think it's because there are no icons for it in the glass icon set
[08:01] <trappist> rkalsi: bad cdrom drive?  it totally sounds like the problem is with getting a package from the cd to the hard drive, in which case it's either the media or a hardware issue
[08:01] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: or his reason works too :P
[08:01] <patrick52222> how do i mount a usb hdd
[08:01] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: i gave the reason, u gave the solution :)
[08:01] <JethroTull> If I use the Ubuntu Badger LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card?
[08:01] <LinuxNoob> And I've install Thunderbird, but how do I put it on the top panel and in Applications -> internet?
[08:01] <trappist> rkalsi: you could try flight5 and see if you have better luck with that
[08:01] <rkalsi> flight5 ?
[08:01] <patrick52222> dapper drake flight 5
[08:01] <trappist> rkalsi: sort of a preview of the next version
[08:01] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: also, u can edit ~/.icons/glass-icons/index.theme
[08:01] <rkalsi> oh ok.
[08:02] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: if it doesn't get added after you restart the gnome panel, then you can use Applications-SystemTool-Menu Editor to add one
[08:02] <userone> hello everybody...I just found a user 'nobody' under home '/nonexistent' on my machine. Can someone explain what this is?
[08:02] <rkalsi> I am intalling 5.01 i think the breezer one..
[08:02] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : I did that but It's not possible to choose the new icons :(
[08:02] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: there's a line that says "Inherits=gnome"
[08:02] <patrick52222> how do i make ubuntu5.10 mount a usb hdd
[08:02] <trappist> userone: the nobody user has basically no privileges.  some processes run as him for security reasons.
[08:02] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: after the = sign, u can put other icon themes that it shud inherit
[08:03] <Falstius> trappist: nobody is not supposed to have a home directory though ...
[08:03] <oskude> patrick52222, it should do it automaticly when you plug it in...
[08:03] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: ...new icons? JazzCrazed suggested there are no "glass" icons for those you want
[08:03] <Karlprof> i686... software marked with that will work on i386 Ubuntu, right?
[08:03] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: i use glass icons as my main, inheriting nuoveXT-1.6 to fill in the blanks
[08:03] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : There is no menu editor there
[08:03] <yaguado> hola
[08:03] <trappist> Falstius: he has one listed in /etc/passwd but /nonexistent shouldn't exist
[08:03] <userone> trappist: thanks..for a minute there i thought spyware had come to Linux!
[08:03] <yaguado> hola
[08:03] <trappist> Falstius: unless you tell pam to create home dirs
[08:03] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: yea, there aren't any...i'm using the nuoveXT icons for FF, evolution, and gaim
[08:03] <patrick52222> it does if i restart the pc, but if i take it out then plug it bk in it doesnt show
[08:03] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: what version of Ubuntu are you using...?
[08:04] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: Hoary...or even worse....Warty ?
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> Amomeba!
[08:04] <Dr_Willis> the earliest ed.
[08:04] <oskude> patrick52222, you have to unmount it before taking out!
[08:04] <patrick52222> ah no
[08:04] <Falstius> trappist: I misunderstood what he said he found, I thought he found an actuall /home/nonexcistant directory.
[08:04] <patrick52222> do i have to
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> patrick52222,  unmounting a device befor removing it - is a good idea. :P
[08:05] <Snarkfish> Helloooo!
[08:05] <patrick52222> dah wat should i do
[08:05] <trappist> Falstius: yeah the wording was a little funny
[08:05] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : ehm... the newest one
[08:05] <LinuxNoob> 5.10?
[08:05] <Dr_Willis> patrick52222,  try to unmount it.
[08:06] <oskude> patrick52222, try right click on the drive icon on the desktop and select "eject" (if usb drives have that)
[08:06] <patrick52222> how, wat after i restart it
[08:06] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: then there has to be a menu editor
[08:06] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: It's called "Smeg"
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> How to get international phonetic alphabet support in OOo?
[08:06] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: can't u also right-click, go to properties, and change the individual icon there?
[08:07] <carbo> anyone knows how to fix this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=642206&highlight=dash+hyphen
[08:07] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, find a unicode font that includes them, and install it. try unifonts.org
[08:07] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: or am i thinkin bout somethin else
[08:07] <JethroTull> If I use the Ubuntu BB LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card?
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Okay.
[08:07] <Snarkfish> Hey, I don't suppose anyone here has a spare Socket-A Processor laying around? :X
[08:07] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, you touched something I'm working on, getting a fairly complete unicode set
[08:08] <Arrick> is there any way to write on line for joining the channel, and identifying at the same time?
[08:08] <tristanmike> JazzCrazed: oh, yeah, for sure
[08:08] <gilianima> how to know the pid of a task launched with crontab, so that I can kill it with crontab ?
[08:08] <Arrick> one line
[08:08] <trappist> carbo: sounds like a browser bug
[08:08] <trappist> carbo: or possibly - isn't valid at the beginning of a dns name
[08:08] <nickrud> Arrick, you identify to the server network, not the channel; you can set up irssi or xchat to identify as soon as you connect to the network
[08:08] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Would xfonts-intl-phonetic do it?  So is your project on that site you pointed me to?
[08:08] <carbo> trappist: it happens with both firefox and opera, and seems i'm not the only one with the problem
[08:08] <tristanmike> JazzCrazed: but I'm not sure, if say you change the icon for ff in your Internet menu, but also have one on the panel or desktop, if it carries the changes over to them or if you have to do them all manually
[08:08] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Ok found it, so i just fint /.thunderbird and what file?
[08:09] <Arrick> Which processor is socket A? I cant remember, I have som many of them
[08:09] <carbo> trappist: it also happens with dashes _after_ part of a url, ie. blah--.com
[08:09] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: i'm gonna see if that's the case right now :)
[08:09] <JethroTull> Can someone please help me?
[08:09] <Arrick> ok how to do that in xchat? nickrud
[08:09] <meisam> hi guys
[08:09] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[08:09] <ubotu> If you do not actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[08:09] <meisam> how can i install sql in ubuntu?
[08:09] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, no, no, it's good info. I don't know if that font fills out unicode spots
[08:10] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: and no, it isn't...i was actually completely wrong...it seems whatever your gnome theme specifies overrides custom settings
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: unifonts.org 404d on me...
[08:10] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, I may have the name wrong, a sec
[08:10] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: which is...weird...
[08:10] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: I'm sorry I don't understand that last statement, what is "fint" ?
[08:10] <meisam> ys
[08:10] <meisam> guys
[08:10] <LinuxNoob> JazzCrazed, : So insted of Inherits=gnome    ----  Inherits=nuoveXT-1.6 ?
[08:10] <JethroTull> I need Ubuntu badger LiveCD to recognize my belkin wireless card.
[08:10] <userone> trappist: so does Ubuntu have a 'built-in' firewall? I have a hardware firewall on my router but, I was thinking, if I connect my machine to my friends network (she is currently on XP) do I need to do anything to 'protect' my machine?
[08:10] <gnomefreak> meisam: sudo apt-get install mysql
[08:10] <trappist> carbo: RFC 1034 section 3.5 says domain name labels "must start with a letter, end with a letter or digit, and have as interior characters only letters, digits, and hyphen."
[08:10] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Find hehe
[08:10] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: the point of inherit is to add another theme to use as a backup in case the theme u're using lacks certain icons
[08:10] <nickrud> Arrick, on the menu bar, Xchat->Server list, select ubuntu servers, and edit. you can set password and autojoin channels there
[08:11] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: so make sure that whatever u put in there is a theme that you have installed
[08:11] <trappist> userone: it has builtin firewalling ability but it's not firewalled out of the box
[08:11] <gnomefreak> brb
[08:11] <Falstius> carbo: if it makes you feel better, it seems to be a problem in the linux name resolution, not in firefox.
[08:11] <nickrud> tonyyarusso, http://www.unifont.org/
[08:11] <LinuxNoob> JazzCrazed, : This will work ->   Inherits=nuoveXT-1.6
[08:11] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: u shud leave gnome there, because it's the default theme, and if any theme will have all the icons, it'll be gnome
[08:11] <carbo> trappist: i know... but still there are urls out there with dashes all over, and they work fine with other OSes
[08:11] <ic56> the update icon on the task bar shows me some items that aren't available.  Their package names include words like `ubuntu1.2'.  Are these really updates for the wrong version of ubuntu (I'm on breezy -- 5.10)?  If so, why are they listed?
[08:11] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: only if you have nuovext-1.6 installed
[08:11] <userone> trappist: so what do I need to do to set that up? Is there a 'sticky' on the forums?
[08:11] <patrick52222> how i check to see if the pc doesnt think the usbhdd is still mounted
[08:11] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you just open Smeg, select the application you want to edit the icon on, and click properties, then click on the icon, it should let you browse, iirc
[08:11] <LinuxNoob> JazzCrazed, : Install :D
[08:11] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: mine says, "Inherits=nuoveXT-1.6,gnome"
[08:11] <carbo> Falstius: yeah that's what I figured... so I'm wondering if there's a fix
[08:12] <meisam> hi guys
[08:12] <trappist> userone: the rfc was later relaxed to allow a digit at the first letter.  some people will do unsupported stuff, like apostrophes in email addresses, and some client software will support it, but it's not valid per the standard.
[08:12] <tristanmike> JazzCrazed: are you saying that if I change the ff icon, it won't take because the installed theme is overriding it ?
[08:12] <tonyyarusso> nickrud: Ah, looks good.
[08:12] <Falstius> carbo, you can add it to your /etc/hosts file with the correct address.
[08:12] <JethroTull> If I use the Ubuntu BB LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card???
[08:12] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: i'm not sure...i just tried changing the icon for gaim in my gnome panel, but it didn't change
[08:12] <oskude> patrick52222, running "mount" without any arguments, shows the mounted partitions
[08:12] <Falstius> ofcourse, that won't work depending on how DNS is set up for deviantart.com
[08:12] <carbo> Falstius: as in fix the IP address for that URL?
[08:13] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: for instance, what it's using is the gaim icon in nuovext-1.6, but the properties dialog shows it as using the custom icon i chose
[08:13] <Arrick> Nice, thanks nickrud
[08:13] <nickrud> Arrick, yw
[08:13] <Falstius> carbo, yes.  I didn't say it was a GOOD solution :)
[08:13] <Arrick> well, gotta go to school
[08:13] <patrick52222> wats this usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (
[08:13] <Arrick> yuck
[08:13] <meisam> anybody here?
[08:13] <steffen> is here anyone who know wich command that will make a folder from the terminal ?
[08:13] <carbo> Falstius: well there's still the problem of finding the IP address, since I can't ping URLs that start or end in dashes
[08:13] <tristanmike> JazzCrazed: that is weird, there were icons I changed, not that particular one but I have changed icons in the menu before and they took...strange, I'm kubuntu right now so i can't check but now you've sparked my intrest so I will the first available opportunity
[08:13] <Arrick> mkdir
[08:14] <nickrud> steffen, mkdir ?
[08:14] <Jack-Dan> mdir
[08:14] <ic56> carbo: the URL names are illegal.  A "fix" would be thought of as a bug, in the open source world.  You're unlikely to find a patch that change the behaviour of the resolver libraries, though there's nothing stopping you from trying to modify the code yourself.
[08:14] <steffen> thx
[08:14] <Arrick> mkdir
[08:14] <trappist> carbo: those are not valid URLs.
[08:14] <meisam> i need to install sql oon my ubuntu
[08:14] <steffen> i just love this irc:D
[08:14] <Col> anyone know how to fix this? FATAL: Error inserting ath_pci (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/net/ath_pci.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[08:14] <oskude> patrick52222, dunno (exactly) but it aint your usb hd
[08:14] <Falstius> carbo, find it on a windows box ... but trappist is probably right.  You should have a - in a URL.
[08:14] <Falstius> er shoudn't have.
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> Should Not ?
[08:14] <Jack-Dan> exit
[08:14] <patrick52222> wat would the hdd probly be
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> :)
[08:14] <trappist> Col: dmsg | tail
[08:14] <trappist> err dmesg | tail
[08:14] <Arrick> asin the terminator I'll be back
[08:14] <carbo> i get that they're not valid URLs :( but they're still in use and I was just hoping to access them
[08:14] <carbo> oh well
[08:14] <oskude> patrick52222, your usb device should be something like /dev/sd**
[08:15] <Col> trappist, bunch of unknown symbols
[08:15] <_jason> carbo: I had a similar problem once with a url starting with a - and was told in deviant art's channel that it was b/c linux follows some standard and it was against that standard, while ms ignores it
[08:15] <trappist> Col: where'd you get your atheros drivers?
[08:15] <meisam> any body knows how to ibstall sql
[08:15] <meisam> ?
[08:15] <oskude> patrick52222, if its the first device, it should be /dev/sda
[08:15] <meisam> on ubuntu
[08:15] <JazzCrazed> tristanmike: weird again...seems to be variable... i just managed to successfully change the icon for another app in my gnome panel via the properties dialog
[08:15] <patrick52222> this /dev/sda on /media/usbdisk
[08:15] <tristanmike> JazzCrazed: ....strange :P
[08:15] <oskude> patrick52222, that could be it
[08:15] <patrick52222> how do i unmount it
[08:15] <userone> trappist: thanks for your help!
[08:15] <LinuxNoob> JazzCrazed, : Works :D
[08:16] <Col> trappist,  sudo svn checkout http://svn.madwifi.org/trunk madwifi-ng
[08:16] <oskude> patrick52222, umount /media/usbdisk
[08:16] <JethroTull> If I use the Ubuntu BB LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card?
[08:16] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: great, glad to hear it :)
[08:16] <meisam> SQL on ubuntu?
[08:16] <Col> trappist, following a guide on the forums
[08:16] <meisam> ANY IDEA
[08:16] <meisam> ?
[08:16] <nickrud> !lamp
[08:16] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:16] <trappist> Col: that stuff is unstable.  the madwifi drivers are available as packages in ubuntu
[08:16] <meisam> any body knows about sql on ubuntu?
[08:16] <Falstius> carbo: even replacing the '-' with '%2' doesn't seem to help.
[08:16] <JohnLennon> If I use the Ubuntu BB LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card?
[08:17] <Col> trappist, hmm i thought they were restricted, happen to know the package name?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> anyone know how to qoute in sylpheed-gtk2?
[08:17] <trappist> meisam: what do you mean by sql?  it's a language, not a piece of software.
[08:17] <ic56> carbo: the IP address is <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:17] <carbo> Falstius: ah... is there no way to escape the dash or whatever its called
[08:17] <trappist> Col: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) if you have the universe repository enabled
[08:17] <oskude> meisam, try apt-cache search sql ;) what flavour sql you want ?
[08:17] <meisam> trappist i know any softwware that i can use sql
[08:17] <JohnLennon> If it's a really stupid question or something just say so.
[08:17] <JohnLennon> If I use the Ubuntu BB LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card?
[08:17] <nickrud> meisam, there's mysql, postgresql (sp?) you can even get oracle to work, I hear
[08:17] <trappist> meisam: sqlite, postgresql, mysql...
[08:18] <meisam> nickrud all right how can i get oracle?
[08:18] <gnomefreak> mysql beint the more well known imo
[08:18] <Col> trappist, says its already the newest version
[08:18] <trappist> nickrud: oracle supports redhat and suse I think.  and it checks.
[08:18] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Ok I'm in the menu editor....So I click on the new entry and how do I choose thunderbird...
[08:18] <steffen> when i open the terminal i start in my home folder, but how do i then cd backward to usr ?
[08:18] <trappist> Col: I hope you didn't clobber it with what you installed.
[08:18] <JohnLennon> :-0
[08:18] <ic56> carbo: I used:  host -- -method-.deviantart.com   host is in the bind9-host package.  It is a tool for investigating DNS problems.
[08:18] <trappist> Col: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[08:18] <meisam> trappist do  know the differences? what if i wanna have them all?
[08:18] <gnomefreak> !oracle
[08:18] <ubotu> hmm... oracle is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Oracle10g
[08:19] <Col> trappist, heres the guide i followed
[08:19] <carbo> ic56: ah i see..
[08:19] <trappist> meisam: no, you don't know the differences.   you can have them all if you like.
[08:19] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you need an icon
[08:19] <trappist> Col: if you got it from svn you got unstable code.
[08:19] <carbo> ic56: well the ip address you obtained would be just deviantart.com not -method-.deviantart.com right?
[08:19] <meisam> trappistall right do u know the commands
[08:19] <nickrud> trappist, http://www.oracle.com/technology/software/products/database/oracle10g/index.html
[08:19] <meisam> trappist how can i install them
[08:19] <JohnLennon> If I use the Ubuntu BB LiveCD how can I get it to recognize my Belkin Wireless card?
[08:19] <meisam> ?
[08:20] <Col> trappist, if i try and modprobe it after i install that restricted package i get the same error
[08:20] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: and mostly all program executeables that are shared are in /usr/bin
[08:20] <gnomefreak> meisam: sudo apt-get install mysql   will install mysql ;)
[08:20] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : I've got one for thunderbird
[08:20] <runelind> JohnLennon: find out what chipset it uses and load the appropriate drivers, if any exist
[08:20] <Col> trappist, let me uninstall the svn and try the package again
[08:20] <gnomefreak> runelind: lspci should tell you
[08:20] <meisam> gnomefreak thanks
[08:20] <gnomefreak> meisam: yw
[08:20] <steffen> when i open a terminal i start in my home folder, and from ther i can cd to folder in my home folder, but who do i then get to a folder there is not in my home folder ?
[08:20] <trappist> meisam: sudo apt-get install postgresql mysql sqlite3
[08:20] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: so it should be pretty straightforward, you select an icon, you point it to the executeable, and save, you're good to go
[08:21] <runelind> man this channel moves fast ;-)
[08:21] <gnomefreak> meisam: for oracle please read the wiki posted above
[08:21] <ic56> carbo: it turns out that both domains map to the same IP number.
[08:21] <Falstius> carbo: if you put the address "host" gives you in /etc/hosts it does work.  cute puppy.
[08:21] <erez> the other machine here had windows on it, and the file sharing used to work fine, but now that i have reinstall the windws there the file sharing doesn't work, but the network is connected (i connect the internet through there ) , what might be the problem?
[08:21] <Col> trappist, same error
[08:21] <JohnLennon> runelind: I Pmed you.
[08:21] <runelind> why?
[08:21] <meisam> trappist its tellin me a wierd message during installation
[08:21] <JohnLennon> Uh.... just a question...
[08:22] <carbo> Falstius: okay, hmm
[08:22] <trappist> Col: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ -name ath_pci.ko
[08:22] <runelind> and I didn't get it
[08:22] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Whats the executable for ubuntu... ?  like exe files in windows
[08:22] <JohnLennon> So I find the drivers for it and put them on like a flash drive and then I use them in Ubuntu, right?
[08:22] <ic56> Falstius: yes.  /etc/hosts does not follow the DNS standard -- that facility is older than DNS.
[08:22] <tristanmike> JohnLennon: it's best to keep all questions in the channel so we can all have a shot at helping you ;)
[08:22] <JohnLennon> Oh, alright.
[08:22] <meisam> trappist its tellin me the package its not available
[08:22] <trappist> LinuxNoob: linux doesn't care so much about file extensions
[08:22] <Col> /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/madwifi/ath_pci.ko
[08:22] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you will usually find them in /usr/bin
[08:22] <Col> trappist, /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/madwifi/ath_pci.ko
[08:22] <carbo> ah, i think i'll use Google cache to view all these silly URLs
[08:22] <steffen> isnt here anyine who know how to cd to a folder there is not in the home folder, becuarse my terminal start in my home folder ?
[08:22] <Falstius> ic56: yeah, its an ugly workaround.  thanks for the heads up on host, I didn't know that one.
[08:23] <trappist> meisam: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[08:23] <tristanmike> trappist: he's just trying to find the executeable for a program he installed so he can get a menu entry
[08:23] <carbo> thanks for the help, Falstius, ic56
[08:23] <Falstius> steffen: cd /other/folder
[08:23] <steffen> thx
[08:23] <meisam> trappist did u get what i mean?
[08:24] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Nice :D
[08:24] <trappist> Col: maybe sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/madwifi && sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[08:24] <Col> meisam, have you uncommented the internet sources for apt-get?
[08:24] <trappist> meisam: yes.
[08:24] <meisam> Col i think yes
[08:25] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: usually if it's a "bin" directory, like /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin or even /bin, that's where the main executeables are located ;)
[08:25] <meisam> trappist its working and asking me to insert the cd breezy
[08:25] <C-O-L-T> why is mplayer slower on my machine than totem, or xine ?
[08:25] <nickrud> LinuxNoob, a quicky way to find out what's executable in a package is   dpkg -l <package> | grep bin, sometimes you're lucky & there's only one
[08:25] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: /bin is for "root" specific executeables iirc, and /usr/bin is shared for anyone on the system, again, iirc
[08:25] <trappist> C-O-L-T: could be a lot of things.  could be it's using a software vo driver and the other aren't, or it's using different codecs, etc.
[08:25] <UsefuLldiot> what is edubuntu?
[08:26] <tristanmike> nickrud: thanx :)
[08:26] <mve> can anyone help me add m4a files to the Amarok collaction?
[08:26] <nickrud>  /bin is for apps that need to be available, even if usr is not mounted
[08:26] <nickrud> like nano :)
[08:26] <C-O-L-T> trappist: but everybody says that mplayer is the best and sometimes I need it's webbrowser plugins but it plays so slow like on a pentium I
[08:26] <Col> trappist, hmm ath_hal will modprobe but ath_pci wont..
[08:26] <Col> trappist, still unknown symbols
[08:26] <trappist> C-O-L-T: I use mplayer for everything
[08:26] <tristanmike> nickrud: is that -l an "L" or an | ?
[08:26] <meisam> trappist friend what is the difference between the server one and the sql
[08:27] <Col> trappist, want a PM of dmesg | tail?
[08:27] <LinuxJones> UsefuLldiot: it's a terminal services project for educational institutions
[08:27] <trappist> Col: it could be those modules are just busticated, but I haven't heard the problem before
[08:27] <C-O-L-T> trappist: you use with the basic settings. You install and works without probelms?
[08:27] <nickrud> heh, typo, you beat me tristanmike it's -L and the pipe
[08:27] <trappist> Col: sure, but I doubt it'll help much
[08:27] <nickrud> dpkg -L <package> | grep bin
[08:27] <tristanmike> nickrud: capital ? or doesn't matter ?
[08:28] <UsefuLldiot> CAn i use apt to update edubuntu to regular ubuntu? accidentally downloaded wrong iso :X
[08:28] <LinuxNoob> Finally things are looking good here.... now I just need cool programs :D
[08:28] <nickrud> tristanmike, does matter, capital L ; lower case l lists packages matching the file glob ; dpkg -l gnome*
[08:28] <C-O-L-T> trappist: what should I do? Configure it, there are a lot of video and sound drivers in it. Switching to other could help ?
[08:28] <tristanmike> nickrud: merci beaucoup :)
[08:28] <trappist> C-O-L-T: www.linuxkungfu.org/files/home/dot_mplayer/config  <-- that's what I use
[08:28] <GigaClon> !fr
[08:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:28] <GigaClon> ;)
[08:28] <ic56> !edubuntu
[08:28] <ubotu> edubuntu is, like, an Ubuntu version suitable for classroom use. See http://edubuntu.org or visit #edubuntu
[08:29] <C-O-L-T> trappist: thanks I will take a look at ti
[08:29] <trappist> C-O-L-T: for ~/.mplayer/config
[08:29] <meisam> trappist what is difference between sudo apt-get install mysql and mysql-server?
[08:29] <LinuxJones> UsefuLldiot: did you install the server or desktop ?
[08:29] <trappist> meisam: the mysql package is apparently bogus.
[08:29] <GigaClon> UsefuLldiot, just install ubuntu-desktop
[08:30] <meisam> trappist i dun get u...all right u dun have to wxplain that..i try to find it out
[08:30] <UsefuLldiot> I downloaded edubuntu dapper drake flight 5 powerpc iso
[08:30] <LinuxJones> UsefuLldiot: it's installed already ?
[08:30] <UsefuLldiot> Installing as we speak
[08:31] <GigaClon> UsefuLldiot, you should just be able to install ubuntu-desktop and be fine
[08:31] <LinuxNoob> I see that the VLC player has diferent downloads for dif linux. So which 1 for ubuntu ? http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[08:31] <GigaClon> LinuxNoob, use apt-get or synaptic
[08:31] <LinuxJones> UsefuLldiot: well I suppose you could install ubuntu-desktop then do a dis-upgrade. It would be best to download the proper cd .iso though.
[08:31] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you can "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[08:31] <Sergi0> LinuxNoob just use synaptic
[08:31] <mve> can anyone help me add m4a files to the Amarok collaction?
[08:31] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about vlc
[08:31] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: check the good ole pm from ubotu
[08:32] <tristanmike> meh, nevermind that factoid is useless :P
[08:32] <steffen> do you guys know a linux game irc ?
[08:32] <pridkett> is there a standard protocol for filing bugs related to dapper?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> steffen,  Huh?
[08:32] <GigaClon> game irc?
[08:32] <tristanmike> pridkett: check out Launchpad
[08:32] <pridkett> tristanmike: just wanted to make sure
[08:32] <steffen> a irc for talking about linux games, does such one exist ?
[08:33] <naxxtor> How do I figure out what port my mobile phone is connected to?  I'm trying to use GPRS Easy Connect
[08:33] <tristanmike> pridkett: you can also check out #ubuntu+1 for all dapper related discussion in case you didn't know :)
[08:33] <twirpie> this is off topic but does anyone know how to surf the net through a proxy server for free??
[08:33] <nickrud> pridkett, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[08:33] <tristanmike> twirpie: take it to -offtopic then ;)
[08:33] <trainer> Hi, I'm getting a strange error trying to install a plugin for the GIMP, can anyone help me out? http://pastebin.com/629281
[08:33] <twirpie> is it not allowed here?
[08:33] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Say whats synaptic ? lol :D
[08:33] <oskude> twirpie, how about askig google exactly the same question :)
[08:34] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about Synaptic
[08:34] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: that pm is a little more informative :)
[08:34] <JohnLennon> If I have this wireless card: http://web.belkin.com/support/download.asp?download=F5D7010&lang=1&mode= can I use it on Ubuntu?????
[08:34] <ubuntu_> i am trying to resize my root partion and i was wondering if i should make the unalocated space primary or extended
[08:35] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: basically you know when you do "apt-get" stuff ? well Synaptic is the graphical "frontend" to that...gots lots of buttons and stuff to point and click :P
[08:35] <oskude> JohnLennon, have you looked here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[08:36] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : oh.... me like point and click :D
[08:36] <GigaClon> me too:)
[08:36] <GigaClon> its under System -> Admin
[08:36] <mve> can anyone help me add m4a files to the Amarok collaction?
[08:36] <ubuntu_> i am trying to resize my root partion and i was wondering if i should make the unalocated space primary-ex3 or extended-logic-ex3
[08:37] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: I thought you might :P
[08:37] <ubuntu_> i am trying to resize my root partion and i was wondering if i should make the unalocated space primary-ex3 or extended-logic-ex3
[08:37] <ubuntu_> anyone?
[08:38] <trainer> Can someone help me with this error message:  http://pastebin.com/629287
[08:39] <oskude> ubuntu_, primary partitions are limited to 4. there are not really another differences you need to know for linux...
[08:39] <Falstius> ubuntu_: that depends on many many things.  Although generally free extended space is more flexible than free primary space.
[08:39] <ic56> steffen: try #linux-gamers.net
[08:39] <LinuxJones> ubuntu_: how much free space will you have left over ?
[08:40] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : *doh* everything depends on thing... have to install 30 other things for vlc to be installed
[08:40] <naxxtor> how do i work out what port my phone is plugged into?
[08:40] <ubuntu_> i am resizeing the root pation to 20 gb and the rest is going to be 40gb
[08:40] <jcorz25_> oskude: got a driver for cam, thanx. what is the easiest way to install it.
[08:40] <oskude> ubuntu_, but if you have 4 primary partitions, you cant make any extended partitions anymore, so allways do only maximal 3 primary partitions
[08:40] <naxxtor> it could be /dev/ttyACM0 but it's not responding to anything
[08:41] <oskude> ubuntu_, so your gonna only have 2 partitions on your harddisk ? (remember, swap is alls 1 partition)
[08:41] <Kyn> Are there mods for ubuntu+1?
[08:42] <oskude> jcorz25_, the makers of the drivers mostly know that...
[08:42] <ubuntu_> theres window kubuntu - extra space for home and swap
[08:42] <ubuntu_> windows*
[08:42] <Col> trappist, ok, i went ot the website and grabbed the old package, make clean make, make install, and it installs ath_hal, but not ath_pci, it says module not found now =/
[08:42] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: ya gotta do whatcha gotta do :p
[08:43] <oskude> ubuntu_, seems you have used all your primary partitions, so make extended partition (and as i said, linux "doesnt care" if its primary or extended partition)
[08:43] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Well to bad the files that it depends on are not in the list... even if I search :(
[08:43] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: did you enable the universe and mulitverse ?
[08:43] <meisam> trappist back to u..the installation is finished
[08:43] <nickrud> kyncani, yes there are, why? (I'm not)
[08:43] <meisam> trappist how can i use it?
[08:43] <ic56> ubotu tell trainer about build
[08:43] <Col> can i use a .deb to install things?
[08:43] <JazzCrazed> linuxnoob: vlc uses some dubiously-free codecs, so u'll have to enable other repositories to access them
[08:44] <ubuntu_> oskude: thanks i will make it extended then
[08:44] <ubuntu_> :)
[08:44] <oskude> Col, yes, but be sure its for ubuntu of your choice...
[08:44] <meisam> trappist back to u..the installation is finished
[08:44] <meisam> meisam trappist how can i use it?
[08:45] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : universe and multi?
[08:45] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about universe
[08:45] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: there you go, the golden pm from ubotu :P
[08:45] <naxxtor> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0fce:d017 Sony Ericsson Mobile Communications AB
[08:45] <naxxtor>  <-- can i use that to work out what /dev/blah entry I need to use to connect to it?
[08:46] <ladofnod> this effects all my players...video plays back with audio however the video is playing at 1/2 speed. any ideas?
[08:46] <SaNtO> #argentina
[08:47] <meisam> guys hi..i have installed the package mysql-server just now..how can i use it?
[08:47] <meisam> i mean how can i write my sql?
[08:47] <meisam> where should i write them?
[08:47] <UsefuLldiot> mysql in terminal
[08:48] <meisam> im writting but its telling me access denied
[08:48] <LadyNikon> meisam: man mysql
[08:48] <meisam> yes mysql
[08:48] <LadyNikon> meisam: mysql requires a passwd
[08:48] <LadyNikon> in console type "man mysql"
[08:48] <nickrud> !tell santo about es
[08:48] <meisam> LadyNikon i have not set any password
[08:49] <LadyNikon> meisam: you still have to log into it
[08:49] <JazzCrazed> hey mako, i remember you from the firefox 1.0 party in nyc
[08:49] <meisam> LadyNikon how?
[08:49] <trappist> LadyNikon: did you used to hang out in #mandrake?
[08:49] <LadyNikon> trappist: LOOMNNNNG time ago.
[08:49] <trappist> LadyNikon: :)
[08:49] <mako> JazzCrazed: ok
[08:49] <LadyNikon> meisam: man mysql for help
[08:50] <meisam> LadyNikon all right hols on
[08:50] <JazzCrazed> mako: your friend daf introduced me to ubuntu
[08:50] <trappist> meisam: you'll find it easier to get help if you do some research on your own first and can say "I read this and tried this but this happened"
[08:51] <meisam> trappist u r right..but when sth is wierd to me..?!?!?
[08:51] <LadyNikon> its just alot easier.. that and I am a newb to mysql
[08:51] <LadyNikon> sth?
[08:51] <trappist> meisam: google is your friend
[08:51] <meisam> something
[08:52] <meisam> trappist sure...sorry
[08:52] <meisam> trappist im sorry
[08:52] <LadyNikon> meisam: thats why can use man mysql.. if that gets crazy ( which it can) try googling something like mysql howto.. or something
[08:52] <meisam> trappist LadyNikon sure
[08:52] <newbuntie> anyway to listen to wax files?
[08:52] <trappist> newbuntie: I never heard of a wax file
[08:53] <newbuntie> it's the extention you get when trying to listen to npr on internet, if you chose windows media
[08:53] <shimmmy> newbuntie: use mplayer
[08:53] <naxxtor> ugh - i can detect my phone with lsusb, but i still have no idea how to talk to it with GPRS Easy Connect, because I can't find out what port it's sitting on!
[08:53] <trappist> newbuntie: your best but is to install w32codecs and try mplayer
[08:53] <LadyNikon> newbuntie: i listen to npr.. some of the stations crash IE' heh
[08:53] <trappist> *bet
[08:53] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Think I got It, but still VLC doesnt install
[08:55] <JazzCrazed> is anyone in here using mythtv and the mythvideo and mythmusic plugins?
[08:55] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: hmm....what's a brief discription of the error ?
[08:55] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Needs some lib5 file or something. Search but didnt find the file
[08:56] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: do a "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and copy all of that and post it on pastebin (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/) and paste that link here for us to see
[08:58] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, :http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11061
[08:59] <LadyNikon> Where is the kernel located?
[08:59] <trappist> in /boot
[08:59] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: ok, those are wrong....did you check the link ubotu sent you about "universe" ?
[08:59] <LadyNikon> I want to set up vpnc on my laptop but you have add the path of the kernel to it.
[08:59] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: well, not "wrong" but not up to their full potential
[08:59] <HedgeMage> LadyNikon: in /boot, and in /usr/src/linux/arch/<your architecture>/boot/
[08:59] <LadyNikon> HedgeMage: thanks
[09:00] <HedgeMage> LadyNikon: are you looking for the *kernel* or the *kernel*source* ?
[09:00] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: go here
[09:00] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: woops, go here...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[09:01] <LadyNikon> HedgeMage: probably the source
[09:01] <jcole> um, i have lvm installed on breezy where it installed lilo... for some reason, after upgrading the kernel and running lilo, my system will not boot... i've booted and chrooted using the livecd and trying to fugure out how to fix this
[09:01] <jcole> figure
[09:01] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : and ?
[09:01] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: when you get there, do this "sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak"
[09:01] <LadyNikon> why did you say *kernel* like that?
[09:01] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: in a terminal of course ;)
[09:02] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : ok and?
[09:02] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: then "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"  then copy everything on that link I gave you, and paste it over everything in your sources.list
[09:02] <jcole> LadyNikon: me?
[09:03] <JazzCrazed> i'm trying to chmod -R a folder and its contents... i don't get any errors, but the chmod doesn't seem to bear an effect...anybody have an idea why that might be?
[09:03] <evilmonkey> hi, i am tryinf to install java sun sdk 1.4 onto breezy, but i am having a few problems, anyone know a good tut for installing it?
[09:03] <cdubya> so I have asked this before, but I'm hoping I can get a more clear understanding.....I'm running FF 1.5 from a verbatim install according to the wiki......but I abandoned it due to constant hangs and slowness. I've had some tell me it's flash and java's fault. My question is why does it work fine in Epiphany then when it's looking to the same plugins?
[09:03] <jcole> JazzCrazed: sudo chmod -R $USER:$USER {dir}
[09:03] <JazzCrazed> jcole: did that, but still had no effect
[09:04] <jcole> JazzCrazed: -R is recursive
[09:04] <JazzCrazed> i kno, thas y i used it
[09:04] <JazzCrazed> cause it's a folder
[09:04] <jcole> JazzCrazed: do you want chown (not chmod)?
[09:04] <JazzCrazed> i think chmod since i want to share this folder via samba
[09:04] <jcole> JazzCrazed: sudo chmod -R 777 $USER:$USER {dir}
[09:05] <jcole> er
[09:05] <jcole> JazzCrazed: sudo chmod -R 744 $USER:$USER {dir}
[09:05] <jcole> i'm an idiot today
[09:05] <JazzCrazed> jcole: thx, i'll try that right now
[09:05] <jcole> JazzCrazed: chmod -R 744 {dir}/
[09:05] <jcole> *sigh*
[09:05] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: how are we comming along, did you get that link pasted, oh, and by the way, make sure you don't copy the "line numbers" in the top version, use the bottom one, the one in the text box
[09:05] <cdubya> shouldn't you be able to handle all that in the samba config for the most part.....?
[09:05] <HedgeMage> LadyNikon: /usr/src/linux should be your current kernel source
[09:06] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike,  how do i exit and save
[09:06] <MonsieurBon> good evening
[09:06] <ernz> Holy crap! I left this running all night
[09:06] <jessy_> je vais regarder la nouvelle star
[09:06] <trappist> HedgeMage: no
[09:06] <ernz> My bad
[09:06] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: when that's done, save the file by hitting ctrl+x  then enter to save as the current file name.  Then when all that's done, do this "sudo apt-get update"
[09:06] <newbuntie> when you install mplayer in synaptic, is the default skin blue with this tiny control panel?
[09:07] <pierre__> hello.
[09:07] <MonsieurBon> can I somehow tell apps like eog or evince to open with a maximised window instead of such a tiny one?
[09:07] <pierre__> i've just installed ubuntu linux v5.10
[09:07] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Done :D
[09:07] <trappist> the only way to get the actual source of your running kernel is to apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)
[09:07] <HedgeMage> trappist: long time no see
[09:07] <tristanmike> newbuntie: you need to add skins to /usr/share/mplayer/Skin
[09:08] <pierre__> how can i enable the middle button in firefox for scrolling as in windows?
[09:08] <newbuntie> tristanmike: how?
[09:08] <JazzCrazed> jcole: i did that, with no error, and i still get permission denied trying to access the folder
[09:08] <trappist> HedgeMage: hudat
[09:08] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: after the "sudo apt-get update" try installing again
[09:08] <HedgeMage> trappist: silly me, I am not used to this downloading a kernel binary thing yet
[09:09] <cdubya> JazzCrazed, you're trying to share a folder via samba for access from another machine?
[09:09] <tristanmike> newbuntie: find a skin you like, download and extract to desktop and then in a terminal "sudo cp ~/Desktop/<file> /usr/share/mplayer/Skin" and you should be good to go
[09:09] <tristanmike> newbuntie: where <file> is the exact name of the skin file
[09:09] <JazzCrazed> jcole: ultimately, yea, but i right now i'm trying to access the folder as another user on the local machine
[09:10] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Ok ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11063
[09:10] <cdubya> JazzCrazed, and the ownership and perms are correct on the dir?
[09:10] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: close either Synaptic or Update Manager
[09:10] <JohnLennon> Whoever referred me to that list of wireless cards compatible with Linux, THAANNNKKK YOUUUUU!
[09:10] <jcole> JazzCrazed: sudo chmod -R 744 {dir}/
[09:11] <JazzCrazed> jcole: apparently they aren't...here's what ls -l shows: drwx------ 115 administrator administrator 16384 2006-03-29 13:33 JAZZYFLICKS
[09:11] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: when you run "apt-get" you can't have Synaptic or the Update Manager open, they are virually the same thing
[09:11] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Its starting to download... do i need to do the sudo thing again?
[09:11] <pierre__> so, noone knows?
[09:11] <Falstius> jcole:  you need to have excute rights on the directories in order to list their contents.
[09:11] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: no, just wait to see if errors, should work :)
[09:11] <trappist> Falstius++
[09:11] <prxq> hello. Is there a way to repartition my hard drive without wiping/reinstalling ubuntu?
[09:11] <JazzCrazed> oops, i just realized it was cdubya who asked me, not jcole :)
[09:11] <trappist> chmod a+rX dir
[09:11] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Ok so how does this help me with VLC player?
[09:11] <LinuxNoob> :D
[09:11] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: rather, yes, sorry, after you closed Synaptic run "sudo apt-get update" again, sorry
[09:12] <JazzCrazed> jcole: thx, but i did that already
[09:12] <GNU_Style> whats the gnome version of SUDO and KDESU?
[09:12] <jcole> JazzCrazed: look at trappist comment
[09:12] <trappist> GNU_Style: gksu I think
[09:12] <Falstius> JazzCrazed: is it a file on a fat partition?
[09:12] <GNU_Style> trappist, will try
[09:12] <cdubya> JazzCrazed, np. try what jcole said - sudo chmod -R 744 /dir
[09:12] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: did "sudo apt-get update" work this time ?
[09:12] <newbuntie> does anyone know which mplayer skin is most like media player classic? ( the open source player for windows)
[09:12] <oskude> GNU_Style, gksudo (afaik)
[09:12] <JazzCrazed> trappist: no error, but still permission denied
[09:12] <cdubya> JazzCrazed, and make sure that you've added that user via smbpasswd
[09:12] <JazzCrazed> falstius: yes, it is a fat drive - a usb drive, in fact
[09:12] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : yes
[09:13] <pierre__> please help me: how can i enable the middle button in firefox for scrolling as in windows?
[09:13] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: ok, try "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[09:13] <jcole> JazzCrazed: doh!
[09:13] <JazzCrazed> falstius: auto-mounted into /media/
[09:13] <Falstius> trappist: +X adds +x to directories only?  cool ... I usually used find -type ;)
[09:13] <JazzCrazed> cdubya: done and done
[09:13] <cdubya> heh
[09:13] <Falstius> JazzCrazed: you need to change the mount options.
[09:13] <JazzCrazed> cdubya: but that's for when i finally add this to smb.conf, right?
[09:13] <MonsieurBon> no one knows about the apps?
[09:14] <trappist> pierre__: I doubt you can
[09:14] <JazzCrazed> falstius: in fstab?
[09:14] <cdubya> JazzCrazed, smbpasswd always got me when I setup new samba users....forgot to do it and was banging my head till I realized I forgot to do that.....added them and it worked fine. Course I wasn't using the setup you are with a different drive.....;)
[09:14] <Falstius> JazzCrazed: well, if it is automounted I'm not sure how to do it.  I mean, I know how to do it once but it won't take effect when you plug it in again.
[09:14] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : It's downloading :D Me like
[09:14] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about components
[09:15] <pierre__> trappist: pfff... i'm disappointed about linux's power
[09:15] <JazzCrazed> cdubya: trudat...in fact, i btr make sure i did it now that i think about it :)
[09:15] <trappist> pierre__: mkay
[09:15] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: check out that pm from ubotu for some good reading
[09:15] <prxq> so, no way of repartitioning a hard drive without reinstalling?
[09:15] <Falstius> prxq: huh?  toss in a live CD and run gparted.
[09:15] <trappist> pierre__: how about this for power: if you don't like it, you have the source code.  fix it.
[09:15] <JazzCrazed> falstius: i think i could add it to fstab, no? tho i do kno that auto-mounted usb drives can have their mount point changed via the properties dialog
[09:15] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: when it's done with no errors you should find VLC in Applications-Sound&Video-VLC
[09:15] <LinuxNoob> I'll bookmark it and read it later.... got to make dinner.... at 21.15 haha
[09:15] <naxxtor> is there no way to find out what device (/dev/) a USB device is sitting on?  and test it?
[09:16] <Falstius> JazzCrazed: if you do it in fstab it won't automount though I believe.
[09:16] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: I recommend :)  did you get it ?
[09:16] <pierre__> trappist: i'll try
[09:16] <JazzCrazed> falstius: but it will mount on boot, or after i run "mount -a," right?
[09:16] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: vlc that is ?
[09:16] <Falstius> JazzCrazed: yes it will
[09:16] <JazzCrazed> falstius: i won't be removing the usb drive, so it's no big deal :)
[09:16] <JazzCrazed> falstius: ok, thx, i'll try that
[09:16] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, ; Yes... tnx mate :D
[09:16] <Falstius> what is the point of having a usb drive if you don't remove it ...
[09:16] <pierre__> trappist: but if i'll fail, i'm going to switch back to windows...
[09:17] <oskude> naxxtor, you could try "lsusb", but i dont know if it shows the /dev/ device...
[09:17] <naxxtor> i've got this K600i sitting on a usb cable, and i have no idea how to work out where it is, so i can put the port into another program which supposedly supports this phone
[09:17] <prxq> Falstius: there's a catch. My CD drive is in very bad shape. I had to sweat bug time to install ubuntu in the first place (it had to be the network install mini iso, and that had to be booted many times before it worked).
[09:17] <JazzCrazed> falstius: my file server is a shuttle XPC
[09:17] <naxxtor> oskude, it doesn't, i did that earlier
[09:17] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: glad to hear it, with those sources, you should be uber-good-to-go =)
[09:17] <spiritz> when is flight 6 scheduled?
[09:17] <JazzCrazed> falstius: with no room for more than one drive...so for more drives, i use usb enclosures
[09:17] <naxxtor> i also tryed getting output of dmesg and that didn't help either
[09:17] <Falstius> anyway, you need to add umask=000 to the mount options.  Or better yet, fmask=111,dmask=000
[09:17] <oskude> naxxtor, ist it a usb flash drive ?
[09:17] <naxxtor> no, it's a phon
[09:17] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : how come its so complicated to install programs in ubuntu compared to windows?
[09:17] <naxxtor> *phone
[09:17] <Falstius> JazzCrazed: you should check out eSata if you're going to do that.
[09:17] <prxq> Falstius: so running a live cd won't necessarily work.
[09:18] <oskude> naxxtor, well, that sound like you need drivers for it...
[09:18] <JazzCrazed> falstius: for external drives?
[09:18] <naxxtor> [4300128.760000]  cdc_acm 1-1:1.3: ttyACM1: USB ACM device
[09:18] <naxxtor> that's what it says
[09:18] <JazzCrazed> jcole: thx for your help, too
[09:18] <JazzCrazed> and trappist
[09:18] <Falstius> prxq: is this a laptop?  Otherwise, I've got a whole pile of CDrom drives. You can have one if you'll come pick it up.
[09:18] <naxxtor> i'll be dammed if i can find anyone with Linux drivers for this thin
[09:18] <DBO> LinuxNoob, because you arent using synamptics?
[09:19] <JazzCrazed> and cdubya...thx for ur help
[09:19] <prxq> Falstius: yep, a laptop. And thanks :-)
[09:19] <Enthusiast78> What does it mean when a package shows 'A' when listed with aptitude?
[09:19] <Falstius> JazzCrazed: yeah, its sweet.  SATA speads, external drive enclosures.  And its compatible with internal SATA, you just need a converter which most of the enclosures come with.
[09:19] <naxxtor> http://www.gprsec.hu/modules/phones/view.php?id=330 <-- supposedly it is a supported device
[09:19] <oskude> naxxtor, does the manufacturer have linux drivers ?
[09:19] <Falstius> prxq: you can run gparted without the live disk, but you can't resize the root drive.
[09:19] <prxq> hm...
[09:19] <Enthusiast78> It shows 'i A' in the beginning of the line.
[09:19] <naxxtor> sony? hahaaaa no
[09:19] <Falstius> er root partition.
[09:19] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: well, you see, there are tons of reason, and I could go on for hours, but the easiest is that a) the support by companies is low b) Ubuntu being an absolutely "free" distro, can't include, by it's very nature, things that are proprietary, or cost money, furthermore, if the source code is not available they will not accept it either...like DVD or mp3 playback for instance. You would be surprised to find out how many popular cod
[09:19] <reon> Anyone here know of Outdoor Router client software for Agere cards ???
[09:20] <JazzCrazed> falstius: i will definitely look into it, thx...main issue is i'm usin a pre-sata shuttle xpc, but i could always add a pci adapter
[09:20] <prxq> Falstius: even if I but into some ram based thing? I've got enough ram, I think?
[09:20] <Enthusiast78> Like: 'i A bacula-common                   - Network backup, recovery and verification'
[09:20] <oskude> naxxtor, you mean its a cellphone ? (i was thinking on usb voip phones... doh)
[09:20] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: anyways, now that you have those sources, you should find installation gets easier now, unless you want to build from source, that's a whole nother ballgame :P
[09:20] <Falstius> prxq: uhm, you're getting awfully fancy there.  It would be faster to back everything up and reinstall.
[09:20] <MonsieurBon> no help here.... :(
[09:21] <trappist> pierre__: found the answer to your question.
[09:21] <pau> #amule
[09:21] <Falstius> prxq: you could boot off a USB memory stick.
[09:21] <naxxtor> yes, it's a cellphone
[09:21] <prxq> Falstius: hm. Probably.
[09:21] <naxxtor> a Sony Ericsson K600i to be precise
[09:21] <prxq> Falstius: I don't know if my old dell does that
[09:21] <prxq> I've got a 160 GB 'stick', so it would be an option
[09:21] <pierre__> trappist: thx! what's the answer?
[09:22] <prxq> hm.... lemme check. Thanks Falstius.
[09:22] <trappist> pierre__: check "Use autoscrolling" in edit->preferences->advanced->general
[09:22] <oskude> naxxtor, well, i dont have a cellphone so i dont have a clue how to use that, if it hasnt any "flash" drive, you cant just mount it, and you may need some special software to even communicate with it...
[09:22] <Falstius> prxq: you can get a floppy or CD that will then load a boot loader you can use to boot the memory stick.
[09:22] <trappist> pierre__: or go to about:config and set general.autoScroll to true
[09:22] <michoelc> hi all. another begginer question. how do i start configuring my sound card? how do i find out what sound card i have. tia
[09:23] <polpak> michoelc, lspci should list your sound card
[09:23] <trappist> michoelc: lspci should give you a hint as to what sound card you have
[09:23] <pierre__> trappist: thank you much! great thx
[09:23] <naxxtor> oskude, strange - the grpsec site didn't seem to think you needed any extra drivers
[09:23] <prxq> Falstius: any links / google kw on how to do that?
[09:23] <michoelc> i saw that on the internet and tried but i dont think it says anything about it
[09:23] <michoelc> what would it be called?
[09:23] <oskude> naxxtor, dunno
[09:23] <hid3> I have a router which does HTB-based traffic shaping for my network. in `ifconfig` I see large number in 'errors:' section, on bot devices, the internal one, and the external one. What can be wrong? What can cause those errors? Is there any way I can investigate that?
[09:23] <polpak> michoelc, why don't you pastebin the output from lspci and give us the URL ?
[09:23] <Falstius> prxq: check out "damn small linux", they'll have the floppy/cds there.
[09:24] <naxxtor> it's really annoying
[09:24] <oskude> naxxtor, you didnt even say what you wanna do with linux and the device...
[09:24] <naxxtor> well, i want to use it as a modem
[09:24] <naxxtor> but before i can get that far i need to know where it's connected
[09:25] <Falstius> naxxtor: there was a howto for setting up udev that had some tools for search the /sys tree .. that might help.
[09:25] <michoelc> how do i do pastebin?
[09:25] <michoelc> forget that i saw in the topic
[09:25] <oskude> naxxtor, i just know that the first usb flash disk would be at /dev/sda
[09:25] <sfar> do i need a firewall? :)
[09:26] <trappist> sfar: couldn't surt
[09:26] <polpak> sfar, that's a good question.. Do you?
[09:26] <trappist> or hurt
[09:26] <Falstius> sfar, if you're not running any services you don't (don't install ssh, samba, etc)
[09:26] <ron_> incase of fires
[09:26] <polpak> trappist, well, it could.. if he wanted to allow people to connect to him.
[09:26] <trappist> but if you're doing everything else right, it won't help either
[09:26] <naxxtor> oskude, well, it's not a flash disk.  I've mounted them before - like my camera - fairly easily.  I don't care too much about transferring pictures to the phone I just want to use it as a modem
[09:26] <trappist> polpak: not if he set it up properly
[09:26] <sfar> polpak, in windows i do :)
[09:26] <sfar> Falstius, aight
[09:27] <oskude> naxxtor, doesnt the site have any howtow ?
[09:27] <naxxtor> not that's specific to my phone
[09:27] <ron_> you could just keep a bucket of water near your computer
[09:27] <naxxtor> it puts a lot of faith in the not terribly well translated gui
[09:27] <ron_> thats what i do
[09:28] <naxxtor> it has an exceedingly annoying error box
[09:28] <trappist> sfar: are you behind a router?
[09:28] <sfar> nopes
[09:28] <naxxtor> it says "Perhaps you did not switch on your mobile, did you?"
[09:29] <oskude> lsusb
[09:29] <trappist> sfar: then the only thing you have open to the outside world is your dhcp server
[09:29] <oskude> hups, sry (forgot alt-tab:)
[09:29] <MonsieurBon> can I somehow tell apps like eog or evince to open with a maximised window instead of such a tiny one?
[09:30] <IamEthos> is there a better AIM client than GAIM?
[09:30] <IamEthos> I must say, I'm just not a fan of it
[09:30] <IamEthos> I used Trillian on Windows
[09:30] <IamEthos> so if there is anything that is more like that, that'd be cool
[09:30] <IamEthos> any ideas?
[09:30] <blacknight> what;s wrong with gaim?
[09:30] <IamEthos> I don't know
[09:30] <pierre__> IamEthos: maybe meebo? :-)
[09:30] <IamEthos> I can't really put my finger on it
[09:30] <MonsieurBon> IamEthos, gaim is the best you can get
[09:31] <IamEthos> it seems sort of bulky sometimes
[09:31] <trappist> MonsieurBon: in kde you'd use kstart.  maybe there's a gnome equivalent.
[09:31] <IamEthos> like the IM windows seem huge
[09:31] <blacknight> resize them
[09:31] <blacknight> problem solved
[09:31] <michoelc> ive sent the pastein now, can someone help pls. i want to know what sound card i have to configure it. thnx
[09:31] <Falstius> IamEthos: shrink the font and resize?
[09:31] <trappist> IamEthos: I use bitlbee, which is an irc proxy to im servers, so I do im chat in my irc client
[09:31] <IamEthos> I had a minimal interface for my IM windows on Trillian (a menu, an input box and a display box) and it was lovely
[09:31] <pepsi> turnoff the silly formatting bar
[09:31] <pepsi> and resize the entry box :P
[09:32] <naxxtor> i go into /dev
[09:32] <naxxtor> ls | grep ACM
[09:32] <crimsun> michoelc: how new is your machine?
[09:32] <naxxtor> I get ttyACM0 and 1
[09:32] <michoelc> not at all new
[09:32] <newbuntie> what's the switch in cp command for cpying a directory?
[09:32] <trappist> newbuntie: -R
[09:32] <michoelc> probably 6-8 years old - 336Mhz
[09:32] <naxxtor> yet for some reason, neither of these are actually connected to the phone
[09:32] <Falstius> newbuntie: cp -r
[09:32] <newbuntie> thx
[09:32] <trappist> newbuntie: cp has a man page, too ;)
[09:33] <crimsun> michoelc: pastebin ``lspnp -v''
[09:33] <newbuntie> trappist: I know, but you guys are so much quicker :)
[09:33] <oskude> naxxtor, i see in the forums of "gprs easy connect" that someone is using "/dev/ttyUSB1" ...
[09:33] <michoelc> k one sex\c
[09:33] <newbuntie> didn't know there is a list :)
[09:33] <naxxtor> oskude, can you point me a link?
[09:33] <trappist> newbuntie: I keep a list of people who like to be spoonfed, so I know not to indulge them
[09:33] <oskude> naxxtor, http://www.gprsec.hu/modules/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12
[09:33] <IamEthos> what about the bottom bar/
[09:33] <trappist> newbuntie: tough love, you see
[09:34] <IamEthos> can I get rid of that/
[09:34] <elad_> I installed ubuntu alongside winxp. shouldn't winxp be mounted next to ubuntu's partition by default? and if not, then how do I take care of that? is it possible to mount into in non-read-only?
[09:34] <Falstius> trappist: you just need a "RTFMP" button.
[09:34] <IamEthos> elad: Linux can't read NTFS
[09:34] <trappist> IamEthos: yes it can.
[09:34] <IamEthos> *can't write
[09:34] <elad_> IamEthos, you must be behind the times.
[09:34] <IamEthos> sorry
[09:34] <elad_> ah
[09:34] <newbuntie> trappist: ok remove me and I promise not to ask anymore of the easy questions :) still there should be a faster way than reading the damn man page, like a quick search engine for the common questions or something
[09:34] <naxxtor> /dev/USB1 doesn't exist
[09:34] <trappist> IamEthos: it can be coaxed into writing to it, too
[09:35] <Falstius> IamEthos: it can write too actually, but that is more complicated.
[09:35] <IamEthos> trappist: I've always heard that it is not too safe to do
[09:35] <elad_> Well, hasn't anyone written an unofficial, perhaps even illegal, but most importantly - available - module for writing to NTFS?
[09:35] <IamEthos> and never dared to try it
[09:35] <oskude> naxxtor, read it again...
[09:35] <trappist> IamEthos: the in-kernel write support is dangerous and destructive, but there are other solutions
[09:35] <Falstius> elad_: they have, but it doesn't work very well.
[09:35] <elad_> Well, forget writing for the moment. How do I mount it for reading? It could be mounted already. Where should I look for it?
[09:36] <michoelc> k ive posted it, crimson
[09:36] <Falstius> elad_: type "mount" and see if it is there.
[09:36] <trappist> newbuntie: for things like that, you'll learn pretty quick - for example, -R works for most commands, meaning 'recursive', and if it's not -R it's -r, as in scp
[09:36] <crimsun> michoelc: please spell my nick correctly to trigger the highlight
[09:36] <naxxtor> /dev/ttyUSB1 doesn't exist either :p
[09:36] <michoelc> im sorry
[09:36] <trappist> elad_: google for captive ntfs
[09:36] <tristanmike> elad_: there are things out there to help you write to ntfs, but if you want to risk losing that drive, go ahead
[09:36] <Falstius> some commands are -R and -r (like cp)
[09:36] <crimsun> michoelc: where did you post it?
[09:36] <IamEthos> elad: you have to go to System->Admin->Disks to read it
[09:36] <oskude> naxxtor, well now you can search there for yourself, or post your question there... i dont have a clue...
[09:36] <IamEthos> or access it as sudo
[09:37] <trappist> Falstius: the man page notwithstanding, -r and -R aren't equivalent
[09:37] <IamEthos> I don't think you can read it as anything less than root
[09:37] <michoelc> same place as the other one
[09:37] <michoelc> 11065
[09:37] <hawaisurf> hi! I am trying to install latex pakages and I get a probrem with "multex-bin" I get an error like this:"E: multex-bin: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" can anybody explain me what the problem is? thx..
[09:37] <crimsun> michoelc: (urls are helpful, as I'm quite busy atm)
[09:38] <michoelc> one sec, im going to go and use irc on the computer im talking about then
[09:38] <IamEthos> alright, I'm off to class
[09:38] <IamEthos> later
[09:39] <elad_> Working, thanks!
[09:40] <Whale> I have a Dell Optiplex 260 with 2.2 GHz PIV and 250MB ram that will go through the whole installation process then stop with kernel panic. Any ideas?
[09:41] <michoelc> crimsun ive relogged in on the box im asking about
[09:41] <michoelc> heres the url http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11065
[09:41] <elad_> I've got linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-386 installed. I'm running on a P4. Should I install 686 instead?
[09:42] <Falstius> trappist: what is the difference between -R and -r?  I always use -r for cp.
[09:42] <oskude> elad_, you can, but youre not "forced" to :) (the installer has only 386 kernel cause of space and compability, afaik)
[09:43] <elad_> oskude, what about performance? Will I gain any?
[09:43] <[cro] smiley> how can I automaticly run a bash command at 7:30:00 every day?
[09:43] <crimsun> michoelc: pastebin ``lspci -v''
[09:43] <trappist> Falstius: iirc -R won't copy special files like device files, socket files, etc.
[09:43] <trappist> [cro] smiley: man crontab
[09:43] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : New question :D I've downloaded xmms-1.2.10.tar.gz.  How do I install it from a .tar.gz file ? How do I go about it :D
[09:43] <[cro] smiley> trappist, thanx
[09:44] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[09:44] <oskude> elad_, i havent noticed any speed gains... but you can have as many kernels as you like, you can select them on the boot time
[09:44] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: toss that file you downloaded
[09:45] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : But can I do so with all programs? Limewire, utorrent etc etc ?
[09:45] <oskude> elad_, and before you really notice speed gains, also the software should be compiled for "686" ...
[09:45] <michoelc> crimsun: ive done it: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11066
[09:45] <trappist> [cro] smiley: 30 7 * * * somecommand  <-- put that in your crontab (by running crontab -e)
[09:45] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: pretty much, you'd be surprised, you can check Synaptic now, and you'll see a lot of new stuff
[09:45] <crimsun> michoelc: what make & model?
[09:46] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: just do a "Search" for a package name, like "xmms" and see what comes up
[09:46] <oskude> elad_, but if youre now confused, i got 686 in my p3 and k7 in my duron
[09:46] <michoelc> crimsun: its a celeron 336Mhz
[09:46] <[cro] smiley> trappist, I'll try that
[09:46] <deefzi> how to install those gdm-themes? not with gnome-theme-manager i guess?
[09:46] <savage> hello ubuntu network!
[09:46] <crimsun> michoelc: no, make & model
[09:46] <elad_> oskude, the conclusion being?
[09:46] <michoelc> crimsun: im not sure what u mean then; the soundcard?
[09:46] <crimsun> michoelc: computer
[09:47] <oskude> elad_, i use the "highest" kernel for my processor, ive i dont see any speed gain :)
[09:47] <michoelc> crimsun: where can i find that out?
[09:47] <crimsun> michoelc: look on the case?
[09:47] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: i don't think they have utorrent for linux...i think i just heard someone say that earlier today, I use azureus...but that's just my preference
[09:48] <oskude> elad_, you can install 686 kernel and compare it yourself :)
[09:48] <savage> join #birkenau
[09:48] <seraphire> Is this the right place to ask a question about Ubuntu installation?
[09:48] <michoelc> crimsun, im sorry for sounding stupid. i looked on the case. it said celeron. it also says XYLO
[09:48] <soundray> seraphire: yes
[09:48] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, :  bittornado ? good?
[09:48] <crimsun> michoelc: is this a generic self-made machine or a Dell/Gateway/Compaq/HP/Packard Bell/etc.?
[09:49] <[cro] smiley> trappist, i did. can i see somehow that it will work?
[09:49] <sfar> ktorrent is nice imo :)
[09:49] <michoelc> crimsun; i think its an intel
[09:49] <unL33Tn00b> Can anyone tell me how to make sure synaptic isn't running?  I never opened it and I can't get to my updates because it says it's running.
[09:49] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: if you like it, then yes, never used, strictly an Azureus user, been so for at least 2 years now, another client would have to prove itself very well to convince me to switch, but again, it's only personal preference
[09:49] <crimsun> michoelc: ok, you're not understanding me at all.
[09:49] <crimsun> michoelc: please pastebin /var/log/dmesg
[09:49] <seraphire> Can anyone tell me how to check if my video drivers are setup correctly?  My mouse looses the pointer, and I'm left with just a shadow where the pointer should be.
[09:50] <michoelc> crimsun; im really sorry
[09:50] <sfar> unL33Tn00b, ps aux | grep synaptic
[09:50] <tru> so if I have a .deb for sarge that I would like to port to drapper. Is there a guide or something somewhere?
[09:50] <soundray> michoelc: don't worry. Like I said, we've all been there.
[09:50] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : and azureus dosen't come with the apt-get ?
[09:50] <_michael_> is anybody firmiliar with DRBL and clonezilla??
[09:50] <sfar> unL33Tn00b, "sudo killall synaptic" might work :)
[09:50] <_michael_> please pm me if so
[09:51] <[cro] smiley> trappist, do i have to run crontab at every startup or ...?
[09:51] <michoelc> crimsun, it's permission denied
[09:51] <michoelc> soundray: thanks to u im on it now!
[09:51] <crimsun> michoelc: no, ``cat /var/log/dmesg''
[09:51] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: yes, that's true, however.....if you look here.....https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[09:52] <Jaga> A question: When I run synaptic the buttons/list boxes/other gui controls don't match the rest of the system. Have I screwed that up somehow or does synaptic usually do its own thing?
[09:52] <tristanmike> Jaga: that's normal because Synaptic runs as root, and you run mostly everything else as "user"
[09:52] <tristanmike> Jaga: there is a fix for that if you wanna give me a second.....
[09:52] <unL33Tn00b> sfar When I tried killall it said "no process killed"
[09:53] <soundray> seraphire, have you done the installation, or are you on a live CD?
[09:53] <Jaga> tristanmike: ahah yes. that explains it
[09:53] <michoelc> k crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11067
[09:54] <Whale>  I have a Dell Optiplex GX260 with 2.2 GHz PIV /w 250 ram that will go through the whole Ubuntu installation process then fail boot-up with kernel panic. Any ideas?
[09:54] <unL33Tn00b> sfar ps aux..... returns "5602  0.0  0.2   2880   796 pts/0    R+   11:53   0:00 grep synaptic"
[09:54] <seraphire> soundray: I installed it on a DELL box, and all the graphics appear correct in general usage (windows and such) except the mouse pointer and some screen savers.
[09:55] <sfar> unL33Tn00b, that is weird... is it when you do "apt-get" that its says its already running?
[09:55] <newbuntie> does this play for anyone?
[09:55] <crimsun> michoelc: ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[09:55] <newbuntie> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=3312137
[09:55] <soundray> seraphire: how is your mouse connected?
[09:55] <tristanmike> Jaga: ...still looking, I stumbled accross it the last time I did it...
[09:55] <michoelc> crimsun: cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[09:55] <Jaga> tristanmike: no problem.. I know the feeling
[09:56] <crimsun> michoelc: ``sudo modprobe snd-es18xx''
[09:56] <seraphire> erez, It's a Microsoft USB mouse.  the mouse itself works correctly.  Just the image disappears periodically, I haven't figured out how to make it go away, but if I click the title bar of a window, it restores the image temporarily.
[09:56] <unL33Tn00b> sfar I clicked on update notifier because it says I have updates...it asks for my PW...tries to load and then presents error.
[09:56] <sfar> is it closing after the error?
[09:56] <Jaga> anyone know which colour number it is for my own text in x-chat?
[09:56] <Jaga> I set the background to black and I can hardly see my own text
[09:56] <michoelc> crimsun: ive done that
[09:57] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Old java 1.4 :)
[09:57] <seraphire> Whoops, soundray, that was directed to you, not erez.  I misread the screen.
[09:57] <crimsun> michoelc: ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[09:57] <sfar> unL33Tn00b, i've gotten that error too.. but i can still install the updates :)
[09:57] <sfar> try "ps aux | grep apt" and "ps aux  | grep dpkg" also
[09:57] <sfar> see if there is any processes running
[09:58] <nickrud> Jaga, 30
[09:58] <michoelc> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11068
[09:58] <crimsun> michoelc: ``amixer -c0''
[09:59] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : dpkg -i azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_all.deb ....  -> requested operation requires superuser privilege
[09:59] <Jaga> nickrud: thanks!
[09:59] <seraphire> My video card, according to lspci is: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 Pro Ultra TF
[09:59] <soundray> seraphire: which X driver are you using? (Find out with grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf -- most likely the third line of output)
[09:59] <spiritz> LinuxNoob: add sudo before
[09:59] <_michael_> is anybody firmiliar with DRBL and clonezilla?? I can't figure out the right way to work it... it is installed correctly
[10:00] <seraphire> soundray: Driver "ati"
[10:00] <ladofnod> When I play a non-dvd source with any of my player (gxine,mplayer,etc) it is very slow on the video with I think normal audio. My computer has not had a problem before playing files. Any ideas?
[10:00] <newbuntie> can anyone here listen to npr or any other wax files?
[10:00] <warhawk> yop
[10:00] <michoelc> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11069
[10:00] <kenoby31> alguien habla castellano?
[10:01] <crimsun> michoelc: now log out of GNOME and back in
[10:01] <michoelc> ok. ill have to quit this then...
[10:01] <kenoby31> hola
[10:01] <oskude> seraphire, you could try "r128" driver (man r128)
[10:01] <kenoby31> hello
[10:01] <nickrud> newbuntie, I just checked, mplayer plugin played npr for me
[10:01] <frank23> !ex
[10:01] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, frank23
[10:02] <frank23> !es
[10:02] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:02] <seraphire> oskude: I'm check the man page. Thanks.
[10:02] <kenoby31> thankiu
[10:02] <sergevn> Has anyone got WoW to work on ubuntu ? :)
[10:02] <tristanmike> Jaga: crap it all....I need to start bookmarking more...I'll get it...:P
[10:02] <GingerDog> upon upgrading a breezy to a dapper, bootup seems to hang on a 'waiting for root filesystem' ... any ideas?
[10:02] <Jaga> tristanmike: I think I might have found it.... just reading now
[10:03] <soundray> seraphire: good hint from oskude.
[10:03] <tristanmike> Jaga: link please ?
[10:03] <frank23> sergevn: it worked with cedega for me
[10:03] <crimsun> GingerDog: you may have to wait up to 3 minutes
[10:03] <Falstius> GingerDog: sounds like you're missing your initrd maybe.
[10:03] <Falstius> GingerDog: or listen to crimsun, I know nothing :)
[10:03] <Jaga> tristanmike: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23798
[10:03] <unL33Tn00b> There are a few places where it'll take a while...just let it run.
[10:03] <GingerDog> k, thanks :) initrd definately exists.
[10:04] <GingerDog> i've waited for some time, but perhaps not 3 minutes
[10:04] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, :  save opened torrents to ->  .Azureus/torrents  but then its hidden?
[10:04] <unL33Tn00b> New one: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[10:04] <Arrick> hello all, I'm back for a while
[10:05] <ron_> veiw > show hidden files
[10:05] <ron_> or view
[10:05] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: yeah, but in Nautilus (gnome file browser) you can "ctrl+h) to show/hide, but I said bollocks to that, and made my own in my home/<usrname> directory
[10:05] <seraphire> Hrm.  After skimming the MAN for r128, I'm using an LCD monitor.  Would that cause issue?
[10:05] <oskude> seraphim, btw, the symptoms you describe, are the same i get when i have batteries inserted in my dell latitude c800 latptop (my battery charging circuit is broke)
[10:05] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: that's "ctrl+h" my fingers are all crazy :P
[10:05] <oskude> seraphim, sry ment seraphire
[10:05] <tristanmike> Jaga: that's it, dang you :P
[10:05] <Jaga> tristanmike: ah, might I be right in saying that as long as you use a standard theme then root aps will work, but if you use a self-installed theme it doesn't...
[10:06] <everette> can someone help me?
[10:06] <unL33Tn00b> doing so returns "dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege"
[10:06] <seraphim> yeah, thx for the 2nd hl too :P
[10:06] <capiCrimm> I added some exports to /etc/profile, and did $bash, but the variables don't seem to exist?
[10:06] <Jaga> tristanmike: that would explain why I think it was working until recently
[10:06] <Jaga> tristanmike: :)
[10:06] <tristanmike> Jaga: wait, i lied, that's for hoary
[10:06] <seraphire> oskude: Interesting.  I'm running on a Dell Dimension 4300s desktop.
[10:06] <everette> I need help getting my Mp3 player to mount
[10:06] <tristanmike> Jaga: there was one for breezy and I use a customized theme and it works just fine
[10:06] <Jaga> tristanmike: oh... we're still looking then?
[10:07] <tristanmike> Jaga: yup yup :P
[10:07] <soundray> everette, what make and model is it?
[10:07] <redwolf> everette: does it give an error when you try to mount, or is it just not showing up?
[10:07] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Is Nautilus already installed?
[10:07] <capiCrimm> what do I need to do to get bash to reload and read /etc/profile?
[10:07] <sfar> is it possible to make some kind of script to run in terminal that will execute a load of commands (and only execute when the prior command is done)
[10:07] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : sorry..my bad :D
[10:07] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: yeah, it's the default file browser
[10:07] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: no worries at all :)
[10:07] <seraphire> soundray: Sorry, missed your comment.  thanks.
[10:07] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Yeah hehe found that out :D
[10:07] <soundray> capiCrimm: 'source /etc/profile' -- no need to reload
[10:07] <Falstius> capiCrimm: source /etc/profile
[10:07] <everette> not showing uop
[10:08] <everette> it's a creative zen microphoto
[10:08] <capiCrimm> sfar, use ||'s to link the commands.
[10:08] <seraphire> oskude: I'll try swapping out the driver in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[10:08] <lampshade> what is the name of the file that I can add stuff to to have it auto loaded on boot.  It is modprobe something  I need to add modprobe i8k force=1 to it
[10:08] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Any tips on useful programs?  I'm looking for something like iCal for mac
[10:08] <sfar> capiCrimm, do you know if its possible to put them in some kind of file that i can execute?
[10:08] <elad_> VLC is stuck, and I can't close it. Help?
[10:08] <redwolf> everette: hmm, I believe creative zens need their own software to work
[10:08] <Falstius> sfar, use && to link the commands, || will only run the second if the first fails.
[10:09] <nickrud> lampshade, somewhere in /etc/modprobe.d
[10:09] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: i've rarely had the opportunity to work on a mac, unfortuantely, what's iCal ?
[10:09] <elad_> oh. Why was vlc running with root permissions?
[10:09] <everette> well I found this website on the Ubuntu forum and it shows how to get the Creative USB to work
[10:09] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : A planner, organizer...
[10:09] <everette> and I followed the steps but it's still not working
[10:09] <Falstius> sfar, if you make a text file with a list of commands, you can just run that.  you need to "chmod +x myscript" to make it runnable (do once) and then "./myscript" to run it.
[10:10] <redwolf> everette: let me see that page
[10:10] <crimsun> everette: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[10:10] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: hmmm, I don't know the layout, but Evolution does that kinda stuff I think, that's the default mail client....but I have a paper and pen for that stuff, I still haven't jumped into the technological pool for my appointments and stuff :P
[10:10] <sfar> Falstius, but i shall still put "command && command && command" in the text file right?
[10:10] <papichulo> is this where the worlds smartest linux geeks chat?
[10:10] <nickrud> sfar, the first line in that script needs to be exactly,  #! /bin/bash
[10:10] <Falstius> sfar, no just put each command on its own line.
[10:11] <sfar> ah, nice :)
[10:11] <Falstius> nickrud: not really ...
[10:11] <lampshade> nickrud, what do you mean somewhere in modprobe?
[10:11] <sfar> will try it out, thanks
[10:11] <soundray> everette, you can't load music onto this device with anything other than Windows software.
[10:11] <lampshade> just create a file there with the command I want in it?
[10:11] <Falstius> sfar, if you want to make it fancy (with if statements and such) you should check out a scripting guide.
[10:11] <MisterN> hi
[10:11] <soundray> everette: apparently you can partition it to hold data, but it won't play from that partition.
[10:11] <nickrud> lampshade, you can create a file in /etc/modprobe.d , and add that line to it. Use one of the files already there as an example
[10:11] <neoxan> re :p
[10:12] <everette> oh
[10:12] <oskude> did i heard bash scripting guide ? :) http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[10:12] <mock> Is there a flac-plugin for bmp?
[10:12] <AstralJava> Hey guys, how could I make sure I've got NFS file system support in my kernel?
[10:12] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : hehe ok :D So any other program that are good?
[10:12] <kRaKoN> is there anyway to contact an ircop of this server?
[10:12] <nickrud> Falstius, I was taught that, I'm open to learning more
[10:12] <crimsun> AstralJava: you do.
[10:12] <crimsun> AstralJava: (if you're using a default Ubuntu kernel)
[10:12] <AstralJava> Thanks crimsun, I am. :)
[10:12] <svenne> how to install vlcplayer?
[10:12] <redwolf> everette: I don't have much experience with the zens, but you might be able to get it to work
[10:13] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: whacha lookin' to do..? I really like mplayer now, I used to be a vlc advoate, but mplayer is doing me better
[10:13] <crimsun> svenne: enable universe and install it.
[10:13] <everette> how?
[10:13] <tjansson> I would like to install dapper on my laptop - which only has floppy acces? Is there any netinstall diskettes availeble?
[10:13] <svenne> crimsun; how to do that?
[10:13] <Jaga> tristanmike: i just tried the hoary one - it works. i think it's just because the info to make the theme is only in /home/user/.themes. copy that to /usr/share/themes and it works straight away
[10:13] <oskude> tjansson, sadly no (but debian does)
[10:13] <holobyted> how can I config gnome to open all dialog windows (input boxes, message boxes, etc) in the center of the screen? they seem to open up on random places
[10:13] <redwolf> everette: try using Gnomad2 to interface with it
[10:13] <tristanmike> Jaga: ...maybe i did too, snuck past me...:P
[10:13] <svenne> crimsun: svenne@svenne:~$ apt-get install vlc
[10:13] <svenne> E: Kunne ikke pne lsefila /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Ikke tilgang)
[10:13] <svenne> E: Kan ikke lse listemappa
[10:14] <crimsun> svenne: you were sent instructions. Read them, please.
[10:14] <redwolf> everette: it lists the microphoto as an 'experiemental support' device
[10:14] <Jaga> tristanmike: :)
[10:14] <svenne> okay
[10:14] <svenne> thx
[10:14] <everette> I DID and when I run gnomad2 it says "no jukebox device found"
[10:14] <Sergi0> svenne : try sudo apt-get insatll vlc
[10:14] <tjansson> oskude: what a shame - could I use the ones for brezy and upgrade?
[10:14] <tjansson> oskude: What that be the same?
[10:15] <everette> where do I find the lists of gnomad2 devices
[10:15] <oskude> tjansson, hmm, i doubt it works... but it may be possible to repair..
[10:15] <michoelc> ok crismun, im back; ive rebooted
[10:15] <kRaKoN> is there anyway to contact an ircop of this server?
[10:15] <crimsun> michoelc: erm, you weren't supposed to reboot
[10:15] <crimsun> kRaKoN: #freenode
[10:16] <michoelc> crimsun, what was i supposed to do?
[10:16] <redwolf> everette: http://gnomad2.sourceforge.net/
[10:16] <kRaKoN> crimsum thank you
[10:16] <tjansson> oskude: merde - I will be stuck with mandriva forever :D
[10:16] <crimsun> michoelc: log out of and back into GNOME
[10:16] <oskude> tjansson, but you could install a small debian, and then debootstrap ubuntu on another partition
[10:16] <redwolf> everette: what version of gnomad do you have, because only the very newest versions support it
[10:16] <michoelc> crimsun, when i clicked log off it rebooted
[10:16] <svenne> crimsun; i cant fin the hoary thing
[10:16] <svenne> find*
[10:16] <oskude> tjansson, you have a linux in it running ?
[10:16] <tjansson> oskude: yes - mandriva
[10:16] <crimsun> svenne: you're using breezy, aren't you?
[10:16] <michoelc> crimsun, well anyway at least u got a break from my nagging!
[10:17] <redwolf> everette: it looks very experimental though, no data files or playlists
[10:17] <crimsun> michoelc: echo snd-es18xx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[10:17] <_michael_> Nobody in here yet that knows how to use DRBL or clonezilla?
[10:17] <oskude> tjansson, hmm, then you could have couple possibilities to install ubuntu from that...
[10:17] <Arrick> Hey all, I run Registry Mechanic on Windows XP Pro all the time, is there any reason for, or any app that does the same thing in ubuntu?
[10:17] <Jaga> tristanmike: I wouldn't have found it but for what you said.. so team effort :) And I've managed to get fonts to look ok today !!
[10:17] <everette> 2.8.0
[10:17] <svenne> crimsun; can i msg you?
[10:17] <tjansson> oskude: really? sounds nice - how would one do that?
[10:17] <Sergi0> Arrick what does Registry Mechanic do?
[10:17] <crimsun> svenne: no.
[10:17] <holobyted> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-list/2000-July/msg00101.html gives some info on "making dialog boxes pop up centered," but I can't find this preference anywhere. can anyone help?
[10:17] <oskude> tjansson, but i dont know if theres any easy ways to do it
[10:18] <Arrick> I cleans out old registry entries, that dont get deleted when you remove a program
[10:18] <elad_> Is there an easy way for me to install the new GNOME?
[10:18] <tjansson> oskude: If u know and article og webpage on that
[10:18] <redwolf> everette: k, 2.8.3 is the version that has support for your player
[10:18] <svenne> how to chose to use breezy?i can find the breezy thing..
[10:18] <svenne> i see many breezy thnigs;P
[10:18] <crimsun> svenne: what "breezy thing" are you talking about?
[10:18] <michoelc> crimsun: it's: snd-es18xx
[10:18] <crimsun> michoelc: good, now log out and back in
[10:18] <Sergi0> Arrick, you dont need a tool for that in linux, there is no registry in linux
[10:18] <oskude> tjansson, i wonder if theres a way to boot a cd image from grub... do you have grub or lilo ?
[10:18] <redwolf> everette: if you got gnomad from the ubuntu servers/apt, it might be best to uninstall it and get the version off the gnomad website
[10:18] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : I'll check it out
[10:18] <tjansson> lilo
[10:18] <Arrick> Sergi0, ok
[10:18] <svenne> cd ubuntu 5.10 "breezy badger"
[10:18] <svenne> etc..
[10:18] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: how did the azuerus thing go ?
[10:19] <tjansson> oskude: lilo - not as advanced i guess
[10:19] <michoelc> crimsun, can u tell me this time what to do exactly.  what is log off as aposed to reboot
[10:19] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Works great :D
[10:19] <crimsun> michoelc: System> Log out
[10:19] <Arrick> Sergi0, I want to learn to write programs in linux, are there any good books for reference?
[10:19] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: good to hear
[10:19] <crimsun> svenne: all you need to do is enable the universe (Community Supported) repository using Synaptic
[10:19] <oskude> tjansson, sec ill gooogle a little...
[10:19] <seraphire> Okay, before I change my xorg.conf file Device section from "ati" to "r128"  Do I need to keep or remove the 'BusID "PCI:1:0:0"' in the file?
[10:19] <soundray> michoelc: if you're not working on any unsaved data, you can just Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[10:19] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Just many restarts :D
[10:20] <tjansson> oskude: i will to - thx alot :D
[10:20] <seraphire> I'm working on this machine and don't want to crash it so I can't get back into it to ask questions later ;-)
[10:20] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: you don't have to restart anything in Linux =)
[10:20] <svenne> how to enable that?
[10:20] <svenne> ;P
[10:20] <michoelc> soundray, and then to get back in?
[10:20] <svenne> i cant find a enable button..
[10:20] <Mister> alguien habla espaol?
[10:20] <Mister> alguien habla espaol?
[10:20] <Mister> aaaaa?
[10:20] <{alejandro}> Hey, whenever I run a fullscreen OpenGL or SDL game I am getting a kernel panic
[10:20] <soundray> michoelc: log in as usual.
[10:20] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: the only time you should ever need a restart is when you install a kernel update...otherwise, install, uninstall, use, whatever, this ain't windows ;)
[10:20] <runelind> lo siento senor
[10:20] <_jason> !es
[10:20] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:21] <{alejandro}> which is kind of yikes
[10:21] <everette> oh ok
[10:21] <Mister> windows es 8[10:21] <everette> hablo espanol
[10:21] <elad_> Is there an easy way for me to install the new GNOME on Ubuntu? Maybe some repository for bleeding-edge packages, from which I can apt-get install 2.14?
[10:21] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Whick mplayer version ? 386=
[10:21] <{alejandro}> it trancends the language barrier!
[10:21] <Mister> everette de donde eres?
[10:21] <tristanmike> Jaga: HAHAHA!! found it....lol  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=148325&highlight=synaptic
[10:21] <oskude> tjansson, heres even one for ubuntu (but they are just chrooting to it, not replacing grub and so on...) http://lug.iit.edu/Ubuntu_Debootstrap
[10:21] <Sergi0> Arick dont ask me about books :)
[10:22] <tjansson> oskude: nice
[10:22] <elad_> !gnome
[10:22] <{alejandro}> anyone know about my fullscreen issue
[10:22] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : mplayer-386 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9.1
[10:22] <LinuxNoob>  ?
[10:22] <{alejandro}> why would I get a kernel panic
[10:22] <tjansson> oskude: found this my self -maybe usefull - http://dirk.eddelbuettel.com/quantian/howto_lilogrub.html
[10:22] <bon_> hi can any help me i am have trouble mounting a new partion i just created "hda5" my fstab file ->http://pastebin.com/629541
[10:22] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: yeah, that's good
[10:22] <everette> yo soy de brasil pero vivo en los eeuu
[10:22] <redwolf> bon_: k, lemme take a look
[10:23] <seraphire> oskude: I don't see the BusID in the config setting in the xorg.conf file documentation.  Should I leave it in the configuration?
[10:23] <crimsun> everette: this channel communicates using English.
[10:23] <Mister> aaa de brazil e
[10:23] <usefulidiot> Is there any way to edit linux partitions inside of osx?
[10:23] <[cro] smiley> trappist, i have set up crontab, but it doesn't work
[10:23] <trappist> everette: #ubuntu-pt
[10:23] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : could find package...hmm
[10:23] <Arrick> I want to learn to write programs in linux, are there any good books for reference?
[10:23] <trappist> [cro] smiley: what's the output of crontab -l
[10:24] <Mister> aqui son todos computines
[10:24] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : fixed it
[10:24] <Mister> d'oh!
[10:24] <hawaisurf> hi I have a problem with the multex-bin package for installing TeTex can anybody help me?
[10:24] <[cro] smiley> trappist, 16 20 * * * evolution
[10:24] <elad_> Automatix is crazy. I ask for backup tools, it installs DC++. I ask for Firefox <IP_ADDRESS>, it install Java.
[10:24] <redwolf> bon_:  k, what problems are you having with it?
[10:24] <Arrick> Mister, english
[10:24] <oskude> seraphim, mine is "0000:01:00.0" in lspci, and BusID           "PCI:1:0:0" in xorg.conf
[10:24] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: good for you, that's fantastic, see, you're catching on...=)
[10:24] <bon_> redwolf: does it look ok
[10:24] <Jaga> tristanmike: yep. that's an even better solution.. hatsofftoyasir :)
[10:24] <Mister> no
[10:24] <everette> crimsun: I didn't initiate the conversation
[10:24] <Mister> spanish
[10:25] <crimsun> everette: irrelevant.
[10:25] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : And finally the big question... how can i access my c:\ windows part?
[10:25] <[cro] smiley> trappist, i tried * * * * * but it doesn't also work
[10:25] <bon_> redwolf: it didnt mount at boot
[10:25] <Arrick> !spanish
[10:25] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Arrick
[10:25] <seraphim> not a 4th please now :D
[10:25] <Sergi0> !es
[10:25] <Mister> chilean
[10:25] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:25] <redwolf> bon_: I would probably take out the noexec part...
[10:25] <everette> get over it
[10:25] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : hda1
[10:25] <everette> anyway
[10:25] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about windows
[10:25] <trappist> [cro] smiley: for a gui app, try making your command DISPLAY=:0 evolution
[10:25] <elad_> !hebrew
[10:25] <ubotu> elad_: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:25] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: check your pm for a script to automount partitions
[10:25] <seraphire> oskude: Thanks. I'll leave that line in then.
[10:25] <redwolf> bon_: also take out 'noauto'
[10:25] <Arrick> !he
[10:25] <ubotu> Arrick: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[10:25] <bon_> redwolf: ok, do you thinnk that would stop it mountying
[10:25] <[cro] smiley> trappist, oh, ok
[10:25] <redwolf> bon_: that's probably why it's not booting
[10:25] <Mister> 8[10:25] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : I'll check it out... beginning to catch on here
[10:25] <Eleaf> uhh
[10:25] <Mister> xD
[10:25] <hawaisurf> anybody can help me with Latex packages issues?
[10:25] <Arrick> I want to learn to write programs in linux, are there any good books for reference?
[10:26] <oskude> tjansson, heres a complete for debian, but they use lilo (ubuntu prefers grub) http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html
[10:26] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: sorry, wrong pm
[10:26] <redwolf> bon_: wait, do you want it to mount at boot or not?
[10:26] <_jason> hawaisurf: just state the issues you are having
[10:26] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : ok?
[10:26] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: here's the right onw
[10:26] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about ntfs
[10:26] <bon_> redwolf: yes
[10:26] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: there ya go ;)
[10:26] <michoelc> crimsun; k this time i just loggef of and back on :-)
[10:26] <redwolf> bon_: k, lemme rework your line a little bit, it's a bit contradictary
[10:26] <hawaisurf> _jason: when I install the multex-bin package i get an error on Synaptic
[10:27] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : tnx
[10:27] <crimsun> michoelc: ok, then you need to ``sudo modprobe snd-es18xx'', then log out and back in again
[10:27] <_jason> hawaisurf: what would that error be?
[10:27] <svenne> crimsun svenne: all you need to do is enable the universe (Community Supported) repository using Synaptic
[10:27] <svenne> oskude tjansson, sec ill gooogle a little...
[10:27] <redwolf> bon_: /dev/hda5 /home/bon ext2 auto,atime,rw,nodev,users
[10:27] <tristanmike> !tell LinuxNoob about cli
[10:27] <svenne> how to do that='
[10:27] <oskude> tjansson, oh the wiki has something about debootstrap (but for chroot) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[10:27] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: there's some more good reading :)
[10:27] <redwolf> bon_: add a '0 0' to the end of that
[10:27] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : cli?
[10:27] <bon_> redwolf: o dok
[10:27] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: command line interface
[10:27] <hawaisurf> _jason: the error:  E: multex-bin: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:28] <_jason> svenne: system > administration > synaptic, then follow the directions on the wiki page
[10:28] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: check your pm for some nice tutorial sites to help you along in your Linux journey
[10:28] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Oh my... I've got alot to read :D
[10:28] <redwolf> bon_: you'll probably want suid, since it's a desktop, auto means it mounts at boottime, and you'll def. want to be able to execute stuff from that directory
[10:28] <Mister> beeeeeeeeeeeee
[10:28] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: yes you do my friend ;)
[10:28] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: new world here, much cleaner and safer though ;)
[10:28] <bon_> redwolf: is there any way to test it without rebooting
[10:28] <_jason> svenne: hoary, breezy are names for the versions of ubuntu.  You only follow the section that applies to your current version
[10:28] <redwolf> bon_: yes, just change the fstab
[10:28] <tjansson> oskude: thx - will look into it
[10:28] <tjansson> :D
[10:28] <redwolf> bbon_: and try mount /dev/hda5
[10:29] <crimsun> svenne: instructions were sent to you. Read them, please.
[10:29] <svenne> i have read it..
[10:29] <Mister> puedo havlar en espaol alas mierdas y  o me van a entender
[10:29] <tristanmike> !es
[10:29] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:29] <_jason> Mister: /join #ubuntu-es
[10:29] <redwolf> bon_: you won't know whether or not it will boot for sure without restarting, but there's no reason it shouldn't if the mount command works
[10:30] <crimsun> svenne: those instructions lead you to Web sites that describe how to add it
[10:30] <oskude> tjansson, this is allso interesting, but slight offtopic :) http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/179
[10:30] <svenne> the hoary hedgedogs arrent there..
[10:30] <elad_> !he
[10:30] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, elad_
[10:30] <elad_> !hw
[10:30] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, elad_
[10:30] <bon_> redwolf: ok
[10:30] <__mikem> Hey
[10:30] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : oh... firewall?  is firestarter ok?
[10:30] <_jason> hawaisurf: sudo apt-get install --reinstall multex-bin, put it on pastebin if you get errors
[10:31] <debian__> How to transfer musics to Sony Network Walkman in linux? any idea? (for info sony uses proprietary software to transfer musics)
[10:31] <_jason> hawaisurf: I write latex and don't need the package, all I need is the tetex stuff by the way
[10:31] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: no firewall needed in Linux :)
[10:31] <[cro] smiley> trappist, thank you It's working now :)
[10:31] <crimsun> svenne: are you using breezy or hoary?
[10:31] <bon_> redwolf: sudo mount -t /dev/hda5 /Home
[10:31] <hawaisurf> _jason: aha ok then I can skip this package?
[10:32] <svenne> breezy
[10:32] <trappist> [cro] smiley: awesome
[10:32] <svenne> i think :O
[10:32] <crimsun> svenne: lsb_release -r
[10:32] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Amen :D
[10:32] <svenne> lsb_release -r
[10:32] <redwolf> bon_: don't give it -t or anything, just try mount /home/bon or mount /dev/hda5
[10:32] <svenne> Release:        5.10
[10:32] <redwolf> bon_: you need to make sure the changes applied to fstab
[10:32] <crimsun> svenne: that's breezy, so don't worry about hoary.
[10:32] <_jason> hawaisurf: yeah I wouldn't bother with it, just remove it.  You just need tetex-bin and tetex-base... maybe tetex-extra as well
[10:32] <svenne> oaky
[10:32] <svenne> whats nexT?:p
[10:32] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: and a virus scanner is only need to protect our windows brethern :)
[10:32] <oskude> tjansson, btw, ubuntuforums.org gives many results for "debootstrap" too (even when only searching titles)
[10:32] <crimsun> svenne: now, follow the directions for breezy
[10:33] <hawaisurf> _jason: ok thank you very much!
[10:33] <yorksha> any one any idea why i can't get to vncserver:1 on a basic install of breezy badger?
[10:33] <tjansson> oskude: have you done a debootstrap yourself?
[10:34] <sfar> how can i pack 3 files from a folder to a .tar?
[10:34] <seraphire> Okay, I'm going to try a reboot and see if it works. Thanks for the help everyone.
[10:34] <michoelc> crimsun: good news: i heard the intro sound when i logged in and the volume control works. looks like its working. anything else i still need to do?
[10:34] <bon_> redwolf: it apearded to work brb going for reboot
[10:34] <crimsun> michoelc: nope. It works from hereon.
[10:34] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: so if you ran like a mail server that hosted windows users, you may want a virus scanner to scan the incomming mail so that it doesn't get transfered to your windows users, but for Linux, for the most part, unneeded
[10:34] <redwolf> bon_: k
[10:34] <michoelc> crimsun, so a million thanks
[10:34] <crimsun> np
[10:35] <michoelc> crimsun, and sorry for being such an idiot
[10:35] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: welcome to the wonderfull world of Linux where the air is fresh and the ground is clean ;)
[10:35] <aeolist> michoelc, tips are always welcome!
[10:35] <debian__> Has anybody tested Dapper on HP nc6120 notebook?
[10:35] <michoelc> lol
[10:35] <crimsun> debian__: check the laptoptestingteam page
[10:35] <oskude> tjansson, yup, but for debian, and last time 2 years ago... (installed debian remotely through suse, and a ide flash debian server)
[10:35] <aeolist> debian__, go to #ubuntu+1 and ask
[10:35] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: weird analogy
[10:35] <michoelc> i hope on day i can give back what ive got
[10:35] <tjansson> oskude: maybe I should do a pxe install - ones tried that in mandriva
[10:35] <UsefuLldiot> when running ubuntu rescue mode, why is vim soo .. odd?
[10:36] <tristanmike> BlueHeron: =)
[10:36] <oskude> tjansson, that would be less hassle
[10:36] <aeolist> michoelc, newbie-ness?
[10:36] <Firebird8> any one know why everything on ubuntu is laggy?
[10:36] <Firebird8> like my web browser and openoffice
[10:36] <simonpca> Openoffice.org: normal :P
[10:36] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, :  Damn.... I'm deleting windows hehe
[10:36] <oskude> tjansson, but that debootstrap is good to know, you can install debian/ubuntu nicely over ssh :)
[10:36] <debian__> crimsun: is there laptoptestingteam IRC channel?
[10:36] <aeolist> Firebird8, these stuff are laggy cause they are laggy... you can search for guides to make'em load faster... not gonna make a huge difference though
[10:36] <crimsun> debian__: #ubuntu-laptop
[10:36] <michoelc> aeolist, its my first time with linux
[10:37] <tristanmike> LinuxNoob: =)
[10:37] <BlueHeron> omfg
[10:37] <BlueHeron> the ati control panel spelled graphics wron
[10:37] <BlueHeron> g
[10:37] <BlueHeron> what the hell
[10:37] <UsefuLldiot> What text editors are available in rescure mode?
[10:37] <BlueHeron> it says grafics
[10:37] <BlueHeron> LOL
[10:37] <aeolist> michoelc, dont worry, everybody goes through that
[10:37] <tjansson> oskude: over ssh - that sound very nice indeed
[10:37] <sfar> you spelled wrong wrong
[10:37] <michoelc> aeolist, ive wanted to for ages, now my brother got a new laptop and ive hijacked his old box
[10:37] <BlueHeron> sfar: i know lol
[10:37] <sfar> :)
[10:37] <BlueHeron> but they did
[10:37] <debian__> crimsun: 10x
[10:37] <michoelc> aeolist: thanks
[10:37] <BlueHeron> spell graphics wrong lol
[10:37] <yorksha> any one any idea why i can't get to vncserver:1 on a basic install of breezy badger?
[10:37] <aeolist> michoelc, that's the spirit... claim what's yours
[10:38] <aeolist> UsefuLldiot, vi of course
[10:38] <MrCollins> hmm
[10:38] <BlueHeron> UsefuLldiot: nano
[10:38] <Firebird8> so things on linux are just laggy?
[10:38] <tristanmike> BlueHeron: that's ati for you
[10:38] <oskude> tjansson, my first external "root" server had suse in, so i googled ways to install debian and found debootstrap (and i found a nice script to it too)
[10:38] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: lol my card is great
[10:38] <tjansson> oskude: also just found that - hd-media/boot.img.gz -- 123 mb image (compressed) for USB memory stick
[10:38] <UsefuLldiot> nano: error opening terminal: bterm
[10:38] <Falstius> Firebird8: no .. firefox and openoffice are.
[10:39] <aeolist> Firebird8, no things on linux are not laggy, what hardware are you running on?
[10:39] <tristanmike> BlueHeron: lucky guy :P
[10:39] <tjansson> seems there are severeal ways
[10:39] <MrCollins> cant connect to my ubuntu ssh server OpenSSH
[10:39] <Firebird8> aeolist, 512mb ram 2.4GHz P4, ATI AIW 2006
[10:39] <MrCollins> im using PUTTY... can someone help me?
[10:39] <oskude> tjansson, if your machine can boot from usb
[10:39] <michoelc> ok ive got a quick question now. i want to play a song thats on the network. how can i access networked shared files from the open dialog?
[10:39] <Arrick> I want to learn to write programs in linux, are there any good books for reference?
[10:39] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: lol
[10:39] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: you ever use EPSXE ?
[10:40] <MrCollins> putty on a win32 box.
[10:40] <Eleaf> I have an old server (quite interesting) But I'm having trouble getting it to detect the network card!
[10:40] <aeolist> Firebird8, if you want top top top speed, you have to fiddle around with ubuntu... ubuntu is a general distro... not a racing car. cant please them all (support all those different stuff) AND keep it small and fast
[10:40] <Eleaf> What does the gnome network-admin do whenever you "configure the card"  what is the command?
[10:40] <aeolist> Firebird8, that's more than enough really
[10:40] <tristanmike> BlueHeron: yeah, not fully on Linux yet
[10:40] <gabbah> evolution will only open link if firefox is already started, but not if it's closed. Then nothing happens. How can I fix that?
[10:40] <Eleaf> ifup eth0 doesn't work because eth0 doesn't exist
[10:40] <oskude> tjansson, and also netboot must be supported by your bios (but maybe these 2 can be allso be done with a boot floppy)
[10:40] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: oh i use it all the time
[10:40] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: i have like 30GB of all my favorite old games :-P
[10:41] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: tony hawks pro skater 3 :-)))
[10:41] <tjansson> oskude: I know it supports pxe - so guess its the same?
[10:41] <oskude> tjansson, yup
[10:41] <antisocial_boris> can someone give me some commands to open programs from the terminal?
[10:41] <tristanmike> BlueHeron: you mean Tony Crack's ProSkater :P
[10:41] <Eleaf> lol
[10:41] <BlueHeron> antisocial_boris: type in the name of the program
[10:42] <BlueHeron> tristanmike: what do you mean?
[10:42] <Eleaf> Is anybody even listening to me?
[10:42] <redguy> !tell antisocial_boris about cli
[10:42] <Falstius> antisocial_boris: well, "vi" will open a text editor.
[10:42] <tristanmike> BlueHeron: I mean that Tony Hawk is so addictive it's like crack :P
[10:42] <BlueHeron> haha
[10:42] <BlueHeron> i love Resident evil 1 directors ccut
[10:42] <rambo3> antisocial_boris, alias what?="i will read wiki more " && what?
[10:42] <BlueHeron> i've played this game on every system
[10:42] <Falstius> Eleaf: it probably modifies the network config file and then just restarts the network.
[10:42] <BlueHeron> i can beat it in like an hour
[10:42] <oskude> !enter
[10:42] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[10:43] <ara> BlueHeron: Yeah.   (I can't open gnome network-admin because X doesn't start, no matter what I do)
[10:43] <ara> the good old days
[10:43] <BlueHeron> re3 can be hard or easy depending if you fight that fag or not.
[10:43] <Amaranth> Language.
[10:43] <BlueHeron> i have all the r3 iso's
[10:43] <Falstius> Eleaf: if you type /sbin/ifconfig does it list a "eth" card?
[10:43] <BlueHeron> resident evil*
[10:43] <rambo3> aha & is just to keep them running
[10:43] <Eleaf> Falstius, I don't believe so
[10:43] <Amaranth> BlueHeron: Please do not discuss illegal acts here.
[10:43] <Eleaf> Falstius, no only lo.
[10:43] <tristanmike> let's bring games conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:43] <oskude> Eleaf, can you see your network card/chip when you type "lspci" ?
[10:43] <redguy> BlueHeron: please take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:43] <Eleaf> loop
[10:43] <BlueHeron> Amaranth: not illegal since i own the games
[10:44] <BlueHeron> redguy: okay sorry
[10:44] <redguy> BlueHeron: np
[10:44] <sfar> antisocial_boris, press tab twice :)
[10:44] <Eleaf> oskude, I'm actually not sure.  But on boot it "configures network devices" ok.  (The machine isn't booted right now).
[10:44] <Eleaf> It takes like 20 minutes to start lol
[10:44] <rambo3> antisocial_boris, for he most part you could just search google for "job control linux"
[10:45] <redguy> Eleaf: WHAT KIND OF NETWORK CARD IS IT?
[10:45] <Eleaf> redguy, ... hold on.
[10:45] <Amaranth> redguy: Please don't shout.
[10:45] <redguy> whoops, sorry
[10:45] <sgtbaker> Cooooookies
[10:45] <cdubya> heh
[10:45] <redguy> caps too close to tab :/
[10:45] <cdubya> hope it's oreos
[10:46] <sgtbaker> me too
[10:46] <sgtbaker> Well there appears to be nothing going wrong with anybodys distro of Ubuntu at the moment!
[10:46] <redwolf> nope, gj everyone
[10:46] <aeolist> sgtbaker, dont say that, i have 5 ppl on my msn list complaining atm
[10:47] <sgtbaker> hahahahahaha
[10:47] <osfameron> any suggestions for compiling Vim7 with perl interace?
[10:47] <osfameron> checking if compile and link flags for Perl are sane... no: PERL DISABLED
[10:47] <htrp> what's the package name for php?
[10:48] <osfameron> (is the error I'm getting)
[10:48] <Eleaf> redguy, I don't know, doesn't say.  Why should it matter?
[10:48] <Eleaf> redguy, it's built in ethernet.
[10:48] <svenne> _Jason: how to enable it?i dont get IT!
[10:48] <svenne> :/
[10:49] <redwolf> anyone got that page for compiling E17 on ubuntu?
[10:49] <svenne> i did it ;)
[10:49] <redwolf> E17 = new enlightenment
[10:49] <redguy> !tell redwolf about e17
[10:49] <gridblock> redwolf, Enlightenment suck :P
[10:49] <svenne> how to install a burnprogram?
[10:50] <redwolf> thx redguy
[10:50] <redwolf> gridblock: I haven't tried it yet...I'm sure I'll find out
[10:50] <redguy> Eleaf: well, propably it matters which ethernet card is it, since it doesn't work as far as I understand
[10:50] <Eleaf> uhm?
[10:50] <Eleaf> lol
[10:51] <Eleaf> I just need to know the command gnome-network-admin uses to 'configure' a card.
[10:51] <rambo3> svenne, http://ubuntu-se.org/Wiki/K3B?highlight=%28k3b%29
[10:51] <Eleaf> writes eth0 in ifconfig
[10:51] <harm> i apt-get install wine.. but it doesnt show the ~/.wine/etc..
[10:51] <harm> what now?
[10:51] <redguy> Eleaf: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[10:51] <cdubya> htrp, which version?
[10:51] <Eleaf> eek
[10:51] <redguy> Eleaf: but try to read man config before that
[10:51] <redguy> erm
[10:52] <redguy> Eleaf: man interfaces
[10:52] <Blippe> should i buy an ati or a nvidea card?
[10:52] <htrp> cdubya, already got it
[10:52] <htrp> installed php5
[10:52] <arrick> hey, If I downloaded a .tar file to a ntfs partition, why can't I access it through the file manager in ubuntu?
[10:52] <redguy> Eleaf: if you want it to come up at boot remember to put an 'auto eth0' line in the interfaces file
[10:52] <tristanmike> Blippe: nVidia
[10:52] <Eleaf> k thanks..
[10:52] <arrick> I can view the file in XP, but not ubuntu
[10:52] <cdubya> htrp, k.
[10:53] <Falstius> arrick: permissions.
[10:53] <redguy> Eleaf: and use ifup and ifdown to bring the interface up or down, not ifconfig, since AFAIK it doesn't use the interfaces file
[10:53] <antisocial_boris> basically what i need to know are the bash commands to open things like my music player etc
[10:53] <Eleaf> redguy, yes I know
[10:54] <arrick> Falstius, nope set that last night so I could view the drive, and I can see everything else, and downloaded it while in ubuntu
[10:54] <arrick> but cna tsee it in here
[10:54] <budluva> anyone here using dapper, and the newest ATI fglrx drivers (8.23.7), im looking through my Xorg.0.log after a system lock up, and im seeing that its having a bunch of problems loading DRI and DRM....complete Xorg.0.log at http://pastebin.com/629627 could someone please take a look at see what is going on? i think the errors could be because i added a symlink to get accellerated opengl as stated in the ati howto...but i don't know how t
[10:54] <budluva> o reverse or remove a symlink, any help?
[10:54] <Falstius> arrick: I bet it is still a permissions problem in one way or another :)
[10:54] <arrick> ok
[10:55] <redguy> !tell budluva about dapper
[10:55] <sfar> how do i apply .diff patches?
[10:55] <rambo3> >
[10:55] <roune> whats the easiest way to get SDL working on ubuntu?
[10:55] <Falstius> arrick: you could go there in the terminal and try "tar tf file.tar" that will list its contents.
[10:55] <arrick> ok
[10:55] <pierre__> roune: sudo apt-get install SDL
[10:56] <seraphire> anyone got a recommendation for a streaming MP3 player for ubuntu?
[10:56] <arrick> how do I change directory into the drive? Falstius
[10:56] <roune> "coudltn fine the package SDL"
[10:56] <Andrulo> wwwha
[10:56] <roune> find*
[10:56] <Falstius> arrick: cd /windowsdrive
[10:56] <arrick> ok
[10:56] <capiCrimm> can someone past an /etc/profile script to pastebin for me. I just overwrote mine. :\
[10:56] <cafuego_> jut reinstall it
[10:57] <rambo3> sfar, i think its : patch -p1 < name.diff
[10:57] <seraphire> capiCrimm: I would but I don't know how to do that yet.
[10:57] <pierre__> roune: sudo apt-get install libSDL1.2-all
[10:57] <pierre__> roune: try this
[10:58] <rambo3> !patch
[10:58] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rambo3
[10:58] <arrick> Falstius, if I type in 'cd /media/portable' that should change me to the directory right?
[10:58] <Falstius> arrick: that looks right
[10:58] <kRaKoN> !server
[10:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu 5.10 Server is out! http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2005-October/000042.html
[10:58] <arrick> says there is no such directory
[10:58] <bon__> is there a wolf in here
[10:58] <redwolf> bon_: howl
[10:59] <Ez> hey, guys. this is probably a really dumb question, but how do i install linux?
[10:59] <Falstius> arrick: try "mount" it should tell you where everything is mounted.
[10:59] <Falstius> Ez, put the CD in the slot and hit enter.
[10:59] <Ez> sweet
[10:59] <bon__> redwolf: no joy it would load kde
[10:59] <arrick> ok
[10:59] <Falstius> Ez, then follow the instructions ;)
[10:59] <redwolf> bon_: so it's still not loading at boot?
[11:00] <Ez> thank you
[11:00] <arrick> ok got it
[11:00] <Ez> does it do that when i boot up my computer?
[11:00] <cdubya> Ez, as long as your CD is the first boot drive
[11:00] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Ehm... didn't get much out of the mount thing..... Still can't se files in windows
[11:00] <Ez> alright, thank you.
[11:00] <seraphire> so, no takers on the streaming MP3 program?
[11:01] <redwolf> bon_: let me see your new fstab
[11:01] <bon__> redwolf: dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,atime,rw,no,dev,user 0 0
[11:01] <roune> pierre__ well, it looked like it downloaded some stuff ;D , but, i tried the code from http://lazyfooproductions.com/SDL_tutorials/lesson01/linux/cli/index.php , and that doesnt work.. maybe im doing something wrong? ^^
[11:01] <arrick> Falstius, man its not coming up still,
[11:01] <Nogimics> Is there a way to see how much Internet Bandwidth my Ubuntu box is using from commandline? I am SSH into it?
[11:01] <redwolf> bon_: nvm
[11:01] <arrick> I'll redownload
[11:01] <josean> hola
[11:01] <arrick> its rute's exposition
[11:01] <redwolf> bon_: take out that 'no' in there
[11:01] <josean> from spain
[11:01] <cdubya> !es
[11:01] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:01] <bon__> redwolf: nvm?
[11:01] <pierre__> roune: you must install also SDL-devel
[11:01] <redwolf> bon_: and you might want to change to 'noatime' instead
[11:01] <redguy> seraphire: http://www.google.com/search?q=streaming+MP3+linux&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[11:01] <Nogimics> Is there a way to see how much Internet Bandwidth my Ubuntu box is using from commandline? I am SSH into it? some sort of bandwidth monitor
[11:02] <capiCrimm> no one can paste their /etc/profile?
[11:02] <redwolf> bon_: I was asking you to show the fstab, but you showed that lime
[11:02] <kRaKoN> how can I sincronize a PALM with ubuntu?
[11:02] <josean> quein habla espaol
[11:02] <seraphire> capiCrimm: just did.
[11:02] <redguy> !es
[11:02] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:02] <seraphire> It took me a bit to figure it out.
[11:02] <seraphire> wrong name tho.  It's listed as being posted but /etc/profile *duh*
[11:02] <roune> pierre__ is there a apt-get thing for that to? ^^
[11:02] <redwolf> bon_: in other words, line should read: dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,noatime,rw,dev,user 0 0
[11:02] <bon__> redwolf: i will just take it out then
[11:02] <kbrooks> is ther a gst-register (not gst-register-0.8) in ubuntu?
[11:03] <kbrooks> !find gst-register
[11:03] <kRaKoN> josean yo
[11:03] <kRaKoN> josean puedes entrar a #ubuntu-es
[11:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'gst-register' (1 shown): (/usr/bin/gst-register-0.8) in libs/libgstreamer0.8-0.
[11:03] <seraphire> thanks redguy
[11:03] <kRaKoN> how can I sincronize a PALM with ubuntu?
[11:03] <cdubya> JPilot?
[11:03] <redwolf> bon__: noatime makes the filesystem a bit faster... other than that, it should boot with ubuntu
[11:04] <redwolf> bon__: take that back...*even with that* it should boot with ubuntuy
[11:04] <capiCrimm> seraphire, thanks :D
[11:04] <cdubya> kRaKoN, JPilot maybe?
[11:04] <bon__> redwolf: is it something to do with permisions
[11:04] <seraphire> Glad I could help.
[11:04] <redwolf> bon__: is the mount command still working?
[11:05] <kRaKoN> cdubya but how do I mount the USB port on /dev/pilot?
[11:06] <siriusnova> Hello is there any way to update x.org to 6.9 in 5.10 so that dri works?
[11:06] <Nogimics> Is there a way to see how much Internet Bandwidth my Ubuntu box is using from commandline? I am SSH into it? some sort of bandwidth monitor
[11:06] <redwolf> kRaKoN: trying to mount a palm pilot?
[11:06] <Spec> Nogimics: mtr
[11:07] <Spec> wait, wait
[11:07] <oskude> Nogimics, "iptraf" could help
[11:07] <Spec> I meant, mrtg
[11:07] <kRaKoN> redwolf: yes could you help me?
[11:07] <redwolf> kRaKoN: sure
[11:07] <cdubya> kRaKoN, sorry, I'm no help on that one....just knew you could try that app with it. :(
[11:07] <Spec> ethstatus - console based ethernet statistics monitor
[11:08] <redwolf> kRaKoN: first of all, get jpilot...it's the most reliable program with the palm
[11:08] <bon__> redwolf: its not working cos i cant remeber how i had it before cos i had to delte it to get into kde
[11:08] <Nogimics> just ran mtr, not quite sure what its doing mind lol, iptraf any better?
[11:08] <kRaKoN> cdubya, thanks anyway
[11:08] <kRaKoN> redwolf, okay
[11:08] <redwolf> bon__: oh, you deleted all your config files and such?
[11:09] <bon__> redwolf: no just that line
[11:09] <redwolf> kRaKoN: k, now... it will mount to /dev/ttyUSB0 or /dev/ttyUSB1
[11:09] <bon__> /dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,atime,rw,no,dev,user 0 0
[11:09] <redwolf> set jpilot to read from one..and change to the other if it doesn't work
[11:09] <bon__> redwolf: /dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,atime,rw,no,dev,user 0 0
[11:09] <sfar> phew, i just read the gcc manual ...
[11:09] <hawaisurf> jason_: hi again...now it works but I installed Nedit too but now I cannot find the application in my menu......:) you know why?
[11:09] <redwolf> it won't see it unless yout start the sync command on the palm BEFORE on jpilot
[11:10] <redwolf> bon__: lemme see
[11:10] <kRaKoN> redwolf, thanks a lot bro, I can start with that.. c ya around!
[11:10] <redwolf> bon__: so that's the line you have now
[11:10] <siriusnova> can anyone help me getting dri to work on my ati radeon 7500 mobility ?
[11:10] <redwolf> kRaKoN: np
[11:10] <bon__> redwolf: yip
[11:10] <redwolf> kRaKoN: lemme know if you have problems
[11:10] <redwolf> bon__: k
[11:10] <siriusnova> it doesnt work in 5.10 and ive been "told" to update to x.org. 6.9 to get it to work
[11:10] <redwolf> bon__: line should read: /dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,noatime, rw,user
[11:11] <redwolf> err, scratch that
[11:11] <redwolf> bon__: line should read: /dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,noatime, rw,user 0 0
[11:11] <bon__> redwolf: ok
[11:11] <redwolf> bon__: are you sure it's ext3...you told me it was ext2 earlier?
[11:12] <hawaisurf> I installed one aplication in Synaptic but I cannot find the program in my menu...anybody can help me? thx..
[11:13] <bon__> redwolf :yeah i am sure, it says its already mounted
[11:14] <wd3> just installed fluxbox with synaptic and when i ran it at terminal i got this .....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11071
[11:14] <redwolf> bon__: k, then that line should do it
[11:14] <bon__> redwolf : ok i try it agian
[11:14] <heroin> is there a way to upgrade openoffice1.x to 2.x or should i remove and install it?
[11:15] <doubletwist> heroin I think when you install oo.o2, it asks if you want to convert your settings and what not the first time you run it [at least it did this in Windows, I haven't tried in Linux yet]
[11:16] <Root_Of_All_Evil> wd3 did you try to start fluxbox from a terminal while gnome or kde is still runnign?
[11:16] <heroin> so just apt-get 2 and hope its overrides 1?
[11:16] <Eleaf> yar
[11:17] <wd3> Root_Of_All_Evil, terminal while gnome still running.
[11:17] <LinuxNoob> tristanmike, : Need help with mounting.... wont work *booohooo*
[11:17] <doubletwist> heroin Why, do you have a lot of custom settings for 1?
[11:17] <Eleaf> What are the configuration options for proftpd to 'masquaret' (whatever it is called) and choose the passive port range?
[11:17] <Eleaf> for ftp
[11:18] <soundray> heroin, OOo 1 and 2 coexist peacefully in breezy.
[11:18] <Root_Of_All_Evil> wd3 allright thats it. fluxbox is a window manager like gnome, you should not be able to run both. you might want to log out, and switch your gdm session to fluxbox, then log in again
[11:19] <heroin> doubletwist i have no custom settings
[11:19] <heroin> soundray i just want 2 :)
[11:19] <wd3> Root_Of_All_Evil, oh ok, so everytime i log in will i have to choose fluxbox session?
[11:19] <doubletwist> heroin Then there is no 'upgrading' that needs to be done. just apt-get install 2 [and if you want apt-get remove 1]
[11:19] <doubletwist> er wait
[11:19] <arrick> Anyone know how I can download a copy of Rute's Book through terminal?
[11:20] <soundray> heroin: I second doubletwist
[11:20] <Root_Of_All_Evil> wd3: if you switch to fluxbox in gdm session menu, it will ask you whether you wish to default to fluxbox or not
[11:20] <heroin> soundray and doubletwist thank you for your wisdom :)
[11:20] <doubletwist> Hah! Wisdom he says. :)
[11:20] <soundray> lol
[11:20] <heroin> :)
[11:20] <Root_Of_All_Evil> wd3: if you like fluxbox, just say yes
[11:21] <heroin> its beter then no thanks
[11:21] <bon_> redwolf: think i am doing something wrong it comes up with [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab  ---->   /dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,noatime, rw,user 0 0
[11:21] <redwolf> bon__: pastebin your entire /etc/fstab
[11:21] <bon_> ok
[11:22] <TSCHAK> is there a listing of minimum processor and ram requirements for ubuntu ?
[11:22] <soundray> bon_, just add a newline (hit return) at the end of the last line of /etc/fstab
[11:22] <oskude> bon_, warnings are mostly not crucial, errors are bad... and that warning sais it all, you "need" an empty line in the end of that file
[11:22] <soundray> TSCHAK: no, because it's a bit of a moving target
[11:22] <bon_> redwolf: lol is that it
[11:22] <bon_> redwolf: http://pastebin.com/629681
[11:22] <redwolf> bon__: try it, probably is
[11:22] <soundray> TSCHAK: it depends on what you want to do with it.
[11:23] <cva> which file does cups write it's webuser authentication to?
[11:23] <redwolf> bon__: also, you have a space in there
[11:23] <wd3> Root_Of_All_Evil,  thanks i'll try that.
[11:23] <TSCHAK> soundray, basic office machine.
[11:23] <redwolf> bon__: between noatime, and rw
[11:23] <soundray> TSCHAK: tell us what you have, and we can tell you what you can do with it&ubuntu.
[11:23] <redwolf> bon__: get rid of it
[11:24] <TSCHAK> soundray, i am installing it on my fiancee's machine until she can get a new box.. it's a 300mhz P2 with 200 megs of ram.
[11:24] <bon_> redwolf: /dev/hda5 /home/bon ext3 auto,noatime,rw,user 0 0 ---->[mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[11:24] <arrick> how do I search my entire drive for a file?