[00:00] <fpghost84> WhatIsTheMatrix: who knows
[00:00] <Teleport> michael__ I did 3-4 times
[00:00] <michael__> Can I have the model number so I can look up it's specs please Teleport?
[00:00] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: you  can always do the 'sudo aticonfig --initial'  it'll just make a new file and a backup copy of your current one.
[00:00] <Teleport> michael__ I can see the live data with the led btw so its not dead
[00:00] <Teleport> michael__ sec
[00:00] <fpghost84> WhatIsTheMatrix: OK, I'll give that a blast
[00:00] <fpghost84> thanks for the help
[00:01] <Teleport> michael__ iRiver T8
[00:01] <WhatIsTheMatrix> fpghost84: you're welcome. good luck!
[00:02] <sybariten> so...  where should i look for apt-get-update-problems? it seems as if its trying to get this:   http://archive.ubuntu.com maverick/main i386 Packages
[00:02] <michael__> Can you give me the exact model number?  They have different models
[00:03] <michael__> I have to go, I will be back in a few minutes
[00:03] <Teleport> michael__ its 4g
[00:03] <glitsj16> sybariten: if you are using the maverick repos it's no surprise that 404's, maverick has been eol quite a while now..
[00:04] <sybariten> glitsj16: hm, ok, any suggestions what i should do?
[00:04] <glitsj16> sybariten: are you actually using maverick ?
[00:04] <Bashing-om>  sybariten; maverick has reached End Of Life, and that repository is no longer in existence. Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and remove that "fetch".
[00:05] <sybariten> glitsj16: i am unsure.
[00:05] <sybariten> any decent way of checking? I should see it when i ssh in to the machien shouldnt i
[00:05] <glitsj16> sybariten: what's the output of 'cat /etc/issue' ?
[00:05] <sybariten> 10.l10
[00:05] <sybariten> 10.10
[00:06] <glitsj16> sybariten: that confirms it yes, so i'd suggest upgrading your system to a more recent and supported ubuntu
[00:06] <Teleport> once I attached my usb drive I got auto-mount, but other times not, its a 4g iRiver T8 mp3player NTFS
[00:06] <Teleport> anyone?
[00:07] <sybariten> glitsj16: and what about Bashing-om's suggestion, is that a short-term soultion?
[00:07] <glitsj16> sybariten: anyone who still rents out virtual servers running maverick isn't exactly 'up to snuff' if you want my opinion
[00:07] <michael__> I am back
[00:08] <WhatIsTheMatrix> wb
[00:08] <Teleport> michael__ iRiver T8 4G
[00:08] <michael__> @Teleport Are you still here/do you still need help?
[00:08] <sybariten> this is a cirtual machine, i am unsure how OS updates works there... i am renting the machine. "they" installed the ubuntu verison originally
[00:08] <uBUXUBu> iive heard the altough buntu does read ntfs they sometimes dont play well together
[00:08] <sybariten> glitsj16: its the cheapest solution in europe i think
[00:08] <xangua> bashing
[00:08] <Teleport> michael__ ofc
[00:09] <glitsj16> sybariten: in my opinion no, but Bashing-om might have other arguments
[00:09] <michael__> Ok, the specs are japanese, not gonna try reading that
[00:09] <Bashing-om>  sybariten; As you are running 10.10 .. there is no short term solution. as advised. best fastest thing is a clean install of a supported version.
[00:09] <Teleport> michael__ what happens if you take it out without an eject
[00:09] <michael__> Teleport, can you give me a pastebin of lsusb with it plugged in, and without?
[00:09] <glitsj16> sybariten: i'd contact your sysadmin asap
[00:09] <Teleport> michael__ cause data works
[00:09] <Teleport> michael__ asap
[00:09] <ramborocks> how di see channels i favorited in the past
[00:10] <michael__> @Teleport, ejecting syncs the caches with the filesystem to ensure everything is written to the disk
[00:10] <michael__> When you shut down, it will do that anyway
[00:10] <sybariten> glitsj16: hm.
[00:10] <sybariten> and all of this, because i wanted to install the package "pdftk"
[00:10] <michael__> Teleport, can you give me a pastebin of lsusb with it plugged in, and without?
[00:10] <Teleport> michael__ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642695/
[00:10] <glitsj16> sybariten: whether critical or otherwise, the OS has no longer any security/update capability
[00:11] <michael__> is this with or without?
[00:11] <Teleport> michael__ its plugged in already
[00:11] <sybariten> glitsj16: i understand the problematics, im just trying to think of how to solve it
[00:11] <michael__> ok, take it out and give another pastebin please
[00:11] <Teleport> michael__ maybe the usb drive in a wrong phase
[00:12] <glitsj16> sybariten: i don't think you have much options if the renting service doesn't upgrade your virtual server
[00:12] <Teleport> michael__ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642700/
[00:12] <ramborocks> how do i see my favorites in xchat
[00:12] <michael__> These are identical
[00:13] <michael__> You tried restarting the computer?
[00:13] <michael__> Did you try restarting the device itself?
[00:13] <Teleport> michael__ yes
[00:13] <sybariten> glitsj16: i dont know how these things typically work. Does a dist-upgrade require physical access to the machine? Even if no, do i risk ending up in a loop where ive fucked up the boot, or something ?
[00:13] <Teleport> michael__ doing
[00:13] <glitsj16> sybariten: i realize you're looking ointo a (temp) fix, but as you probably cannot take an upgrade action by yourself it's either rent somewhere else or contact them
[00:13] <michael__> which question is that yes for?
[00:14] <Teleport> michael__ 2nd
[00:14] <Teleport> michael__ nothin again
[00:14] <Bashing-om>  sybariten; There is a means to update online, but it is not at allrecommended, too much has changed from version 10.10 to even the current LTS 12.04  to even give it serious consideration; Mabe as a means of last resort. The Recommnded path is to burn a DVD from the .iso image and do a clean install.
[00:15] <michael__> Apologies, my internet just went out
[00:15] <sybariten> Bashing-om: hm, interesting. I see.
[00:15] <michael__> @Teleport, did you try restarting the device itself?
[00:15] <Teleport> michael__ 2nd
[00:15] <Teleport> michael__ nothin again
[00:15] <sybariten> OK i'll see what they say on the site
[00:15] <glitsj16> sybariten: no physical access rquired no, but you would have to make several painfull and potentially buggy jumps to get from 10.10 over 11.04 over 11.10 to a stable 12.04 ..
[00:15] <Teleport> michael__ ive tried both restarting pc and the device
[00:15] <Teleport> michael__ still nothing
[00:16] <michael__> Is it listed in lsblk?
[00:16] <Teleport> michael__ 2 device atm
[00:16] <Teleport> michael__ one sda1 with no name
[00:16] <vfw> sybariten: I concur, fresh install is your best bet.  If you have files you want to save, back them up and restore afterwards.
[00:17] <michael__> What are the sizes?
[00:17] <Teleport> michael__ one hard drive with label
[00:17] <Teleport> michael__ both 1TB
[00:17] <Teleport> michael__ main hard + external hard
[00:17] <michael__> Ok, neither of those are your 4GB drive then
[00:18] <michael__> Are you trying to open it on the same computer that it worked on earlier?
[00:18] <ewook> does dmesg register that you inserted anything?
[00:18] <Teleport> ewook @ me?
[00:18] <sybariten> vfw: its a rented virtual machine so i'm guessing i cant do a fresh install just like that, but i'll contact the people in charge....
[00:18] <ewook> Teleport: yes, sorry.
[00:18] <michael__> Do what ewook said
[00:18] <Teleport> michael__ not atm
[00:18] <sybariten> (even if im root)
[00:18] <Teleport> ewook asap
[00:18] <michael__> I didn't think of checking logs, silly me
[00:19] <Teleport> ewook want pastebin?
[00:19] <vfw> sybariten: I see.  Well that is a horse of a different color.  :)
[00:19] <ewook> Teleport: shoot
[00:19] <Teleport> ewook wtf = log cant paste
[00:20] <DE> tho i run my cpu on linux pepperment since no ones in that chat room would some one help me
[00:20] <ewook> Teleport: use right-click copy and right-click paste.
[00:20] <Teleport> ewook http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642727/
[00:20] <Teleport> check
[00:20] <ramborocks> i cant get my drive to give me permissions to change it
[00:20] <ramborocks> im trying to give 'others' read permission
[00:20] <Teleport> ewook I meant its too many
[00:20] <glitsj16> sybariten: and follow vfw's very good advice to get a backup
[00:21] <Bashing-om>  sybariten; Yeah, rented machine .. it is thier resposibility to provide a secure system .. 10.10 no longer enjoys that ! The latest version (short term) is 13.10 .. the next Long Term Support is due out next April as version 14.04.
[00:21] <vfw> ramborocks: Read access to ____________________ ?
[00:21] <ramborocks> its a external drive im trying to get to be read over the network
[00:21] <ewook> Teleport: what drive am I looking for?
[00:21] <Teleport> michael__ brb on another pc (trying to wake that up :p)
[00:21] <ramborocks> specifically plex
[00:21] <vfw> ramborocks: Have you determined if it is a hardware or software issue?
[00:22] <Teleport> ewook iRiver T8 4G
[00:22] <vfw> ramborocks: mount | pastebinit #We will look and see.
[00:22] <ramborocks> im pretty sure its a hardware issue. Because was reading up and tried doing the chmod and giving o+r access
[00:22] <ramborocks> im quite new but im totally stumped
[00:22] <vfw> ramborocks: What kind of Hard Drive is it?
[00:22] <ewook> Teleport: sorry mate, can't really find it there.
[00:23] <ldiamond> I am trying to share a directory which resides in my home directory with other users. What's the simplest way? (I tried to setup a ldiamond-shared group and add everyone I want to share with to the group but they can't access it still)
[00:23] <ewook> Teleport: I see a passport-drive, and that is about it.
[00:23] <ramborocks> external western digital . its formated in ntfs
[00:23] <vfw> ramborocks: I did not ask the brand, but the type.
[00:23] <ewook> ldiamond: what protocol?
[00:23] <vfw> ramborocks: Is this a desktop or laptop or... _____________?
[00:23] <ramborocks> desktop
[00:24] <ldiamond> ewook, local users
[00:24] <Teleport> ramborocks and ewook thats a external drive works fine on usb 3 but the usb flash drive doesnt
[00:24] <vfw> ramborocks: And is it a conventional hard drive?  (Not ssd?_
[00:24] <ldiamond> I'll mount using sshfs probably
[00:24] <ewook> ldiamond: ? you are sharing with local users, why don't you simply change the permissions instead?
[00:24] <constl> Hello, I'm trying to install Glances according to http://askubuntu.com/questions/293426/system-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu but i get some errors. I've tried git cloning and building from source and also download pre-compiled binaries from the author's PPA but with no luck. Any help appreciated!
[00:25] <vfw> ramborocks:  If you will share with us the output of mount, we might be able to give you specific advise.
[00:25] <michael__> Ewook
[00:25] <ldiamond> ewook, even if I change the permission, doesn't work
[00:25] <michael__> On teleport's pastebin, line 245 does not correspond to any known manufacturer
[00:25] <ldiamond> suppose I make ~/shared, chmod o+r ~/shared
[00:25] <ldiamond> sudo su - otheruser
[00:25] <ldiamond> cd /home/ldiamond/shared
[00:25] <ldiamond> denied.
[00:26] <ewook> michael__: yes?
[00:26] <michael__> On teleport's pastebin, line 245 does not correspond to any known manufacturer
[00:26] <ramborocks> im not sure what is junk and whats not .. http://pastebin.com/saANubSx
[00:26] <michael__> At least when I look up the vendor id
[00:26] <ramborocks> im trying to get Juggernaunt1 to be read
[00:26] <ewook> ldiamond: do it easy then - create a symlink to a dir at a lower level after changing the permissions.
[00:27] <vfw> ramborocks: Is it sdb1 or sdc1 ?
[00:27] <ramborocks> sdc1
[00:27] <vfw> ramborocks: So, the mount point is /media/chad/Juggernaunt1  Right?
[00:27] <Eromej> Hello, how to fix the cryptswap mount error message on boot ? I used this fix http://askubuntu.com/questions/341979/what-to-do-about-the-disk-drive-for-dev-mapper-cryptswap1-is-not-ready-yet-or but didn't work
[00:28] <ewook> michael__: oh, well.. that registers as a joystick.
[00:28] <Teleport> michael__ ssl
[00:28] <ewook> michael__: dev id matches a few lines down.
[00:28] <vfw> ramborocks: It appears to be mounted rw
[00:28] <Teleport> michael__ sorry I was on another pc
[00:28] <michael__> Teleport, do you happen to have a USB joystick plugged in?
[00:28] <Teleport> michael__ gotta check on win
[00:29] <ldiamond> ewook, still not working
[00:29] <Teleport> michael__ no joystick here, 2 MIDI Keyboards
[00:29] <ewook> ah.
[00:29] <ramborocks> it wont let me change permissions though
[00:29] <ewook> Teleport: that would be a "joystick" then :p.
[00:29] <michael__> That's probably it then
[00:29] <vfw> ramborocks: touch /media/chad/Juggernaunt1/test-file ; ls /media/chad/Juggernaunt1/test-file   #For a test
[00:29] <Eromej> (Gparted still displays my swap partition as "unknown" despite me formatting twice already)
[00:29] <ewook> ldiamond: odd. how are your users trying to access the area?
[00:29] <vfw> ramborocks: ... or see what error you get.
[00:29] <ldiamond> just cd to it
[00:29] <michael__> Ewook, it registered a keyboard on line 236
[00:30] <ewook> michael__: yepp.
[00:30] <michael__> and 252
[00:30] <ewook> Teleport: erhm... might I ask you to perhaps unplug a couple of devs from usb and stuff, and replugging the usb drive?
[00:31] <ramborocks> chad@RamboDesktop:~$
[00:31] <ramborocks> opps
[00:31] <Teleport> ewook  yes two joystick "i play super mac mac :P"
[00:31] <ramborocks> it didnt give an error
[00:31] <Teleport> ewook asap sir
[00:31] <sybariten> anybody care to split me up a pdf file? You will need to do some steps, like ULing to a site or archiving etc
[00:31] <sybariten> and wgetting
[00:32] <fragmer> Hello! I run 12.04 LTS, and I need a newer version of a package ('subversion' 1.7+). These new versions are only be available via apt-get for quantal/raring/saucy. What's the best way to install one of those newer packages (e.g. http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/subversion ) on my 12.04 system? And is that a good idea at all?
[00:33] <vfw> ramborocks: Then it would appear that you are indeed able to write to the drive.
[00:33] <michael__> @fragmer, you can build from source
[00:33] <ramborocks> thats whats weird is it wont let me read it on my plex server
[00:33] <john_doe_jr> What does the 'bs' and 'count' command mean in the following command: "dd if=/dev/zero of=/test.file bs=4M count=1000"
[00:33] <ewook> fragmer: depending on the dependencies.. ouchie..
[00:33] <john_doe_jr> ?
[00:33] <ramborocks> and it wont let me change the permissions
[00:33] <sideup66> hello room
[00:34] <sideup66> im back
[00:34] <ewook> john_doe_jr: bs = bit size, count urr...
[00:34] <vfw> ramborocks: YOu do not change permissions to ntfs file systems.
[00:34] <sideup66> glitsj16: are you still around
[00:34] <anonymous_> Hello everyone
[00:34] <Teleport> ewook found wtf?
[00:34] <sideup66> I did some playing around with the commands you mentioned and it appears to me that the devices are indeed interferring
[00:34] <john_doe_jr> ewook: what does bit size mean though?  and count?
[00:34] <glitsj16> sideup66: you forgot the verb 'hanging' lol, which is correct :)
[00:35] <ewook> john_doe_jr: bit size is how lage bits to copy each round, count should be how many times it should do it.
[00:35] <ewook> Teleport: aha. Overloading your USB south bridge :P
[00:35] <SaberX01> !backports | fragmer
[00:35] <Teleport> ewook why its workin now?
[00:35] <glitsj16> sideup66: no change in the wifi issue i assume ? or did you try something?
[00:35] <Teleport> ewook LOL
[00:35] <Teleport> ty
[00:35] <ramborocks> ohhh you dont?
[00:35] <ewook> Teleport: get a powered usb hub!
[00:35] <vfw> ramborocks: ... that is, if you are on a Linux system ....  You understand how this works?  It IS an ntfs file system.  Right?
[00:35] <sideup66> lol, my mistake glitsj, I appreciate your help so far, when I tried to disable the device 1, the usb device would indeed go down
[00:35] <ramborocks> what can i do to change that
[00:35] <Teleport> ewook :( me no money
[00:35] <Teleport> ;))
[00:35] <ramborocks> yes im sure of that being a ntfs
[00:35] <john_doe_jr> ewook: how large bits to copy each round? …each round of what?
[00:35] <sideup66> device 2 would also take down the internal one
[00:36] <fragmer> SaberX01: Yes thank you, I have checked precise-backports, but the package I need is not on the list.
[00:36] <vfw> ramborocks: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc |pastebinit
[00:36] <fragmer> michael__: Should I uninstall the current version of the package (obtained via apt-get) before building one from source? Or will the newly-built one just overwrite the old one?
[00:36] <sideup66> if I turn off device 2, it shuts off the usb one only
[00:36] <sideup66> therefore, I need to I guess find a way to disable the internal adapter entirely
[00:36] <Teleport> ewook changed 1 usb hub
[00:36] <Teleport> ewook should work
[00:36] <ramborocks> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642785/
[00:36] <SaberX01> fragmer, then maybe compile from source and use checkinstall to manage it until 1.7+ is on the repos.
[00:36] <michael__> fragmer, set the prefix to /usr/local when installing
[00:37] <Teleport> michael__ solved!
[00:37] <michael__> So I see Teleport
[00:37] <ewook> john_doe_jr: each copy-cycle. I'm not sure I can explain it better, I might even be confusing the answer :p.
[00:37] <Teleport> MAY soooth breadge
[00:37] <michael__> teleport, What exactly did you do, plug it into a different slot?
[00:38] <Teleport> michael__ unplugged all then diff slot
[00:38] <Teleport> but the flash drive is in the old slot
[00:38] <Teleport> so all work together
[00:38] <michael__> It may have been wise to try that before opening irc.
[00:38] <sideup66> that is where I stand
[00:38] <ewook> michael__: lol. no, not really. since one cannot really know how the usb is powered.
[00:39] <sideup66> would that be a fair course of action then or should I disable the one device and reboot
[00:39] <glitsj16> sideup66: that makes sense yes, i mean about what you must try to achive, no clue on why it is doing that .. you have 2 options i can help in, but the channel is c-reading, anyone might chime in with something better .. here goes .. 1) don't hardblock anything with the hardware switch and try software blocking the internal one via rfkill .. or .. 2) try blacklisting the driver of the internal one, which would have the same effect
[00:39] <sideup66> see where things stand
[00:39] <vfw> ramborocks: Yep, it is indeed NTFS  It says ID 7  NTFS
[00:39] <ewook> john_doe_jr: I would like to recommend the wikipedia page on dd, it's is quite a good read!
[00:39] <Teleport> ewook why it happens, i'm not using a poor pc
[00:39] <sideup66> ok, sounds good, let me see what happens soft disabling the internal and rebooting, its a strange issue it is having, most hardware Ive dealt with in linux just worked without anything done
[00:39] <ramborocks> is there any way i can get this to work Id like to share this whole drive.
[00:40] <vfw> ramborocks: NTFS does not have file permissions like we have on our native Linux file systems.
[00:40] <ewook> Teleport: my point exactly. It's all about how the manufacturer chooses to interconnect stuff in your pc.
[00:40] <ramborocks> and.. tip for next time dont format into ntfs
[00:40] <sideup66> I should also actually see if the bios has some disable from it, thus disabling the internal adapter altogether
[00:40] <ewook> Teleport: Some do it right, and have a stable current to all ports, meaning you can plugg stuff in like crazy.
[00:40] <vfw> ramborocks: Well, sure you can share the whole drive.
[00:40] <michael__> @rambor, it likely already was ntfs
[00:40] <Teleport> ewook case's power sux?
[00:40] <ramborocks> i wouldnt mind sharing the whole drive
[00:40] <ewook> Teleport: yeah. sadly, that's the short answer....
[00:40] <glitsj16> sideup66: while you were afk here i found https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rfkill/+bug/588366, which also might be usefull to take a look at, it proposes other possible fixes
[00:40] <vfw> ramborocks: What do you want to share it with?
[00:40] <ramborocks> prefur it
[00:41] <ramborocks> id like to share with everyone
[00:41] <Teleport> ewook true cause it takes a lot of power damnit
[00:41] <vfw> ramborocks: Including me?
[00:41] <sideup66> ok, thanks glitsj! been a great help :)
[00:41] <glitsj16> sideup66: bios disabling would be usefull too yes
[00:41] <ramborocks> its my media drive that i'll use on my smart tv / plex server
[00:41] <Teleport> ewook core i7 with 16g ram
[00:41] <ewook> Teleport: just for fun - check your dmesg for yourself - and try to identify the lines where you plugged in the drive :)
[00:41] <Teleport> and power sux!
[00:41] <ewook> Teleport: well, it's your motherboard mate ;)
[00:41] <ramborocks> lol ok i see what you mean. . yeah just basicly those on my network
[00:41] <Teleport> ewook brb for mainbord spec
[00:41] <sideup66> I think it saw both and somehow tied them together
[00:41] <sideup66> ok brb, going to disable the one and reboot
[00:42] <glitsj16> sideup66: hope one of the options gets you out of trouble, very welcome
[00:42] <vfw> ramborocks: Just joking.  But what you probably want to do is set it to a static mount point first, and then choose how you want to share it, (nfs or samba), and then configure as needed.
[00:43] <vfw> ramborocks: You can use both if you want, (nfs and samba), but you really only need samba if you are sharing with other MS Windows PCs on your LAN.
[00:43] <michael__> I actually have a minor irritation with my fstab someone might be able to help me with
[00:43] <ramborocks> ok
[00:43] <glitsj16> sideup66: exactly, there are quite a few bug reports refering to similar situations, but i took the liberty of only linking that one because it seemed closest to what you are experiencing
[00:43] <ramborocks> samba it is
[00:44] <vfw> ramborocks: So the first thing you'd do is create a mount point and then  get the blkid and create an entry in the /etc/fstab file, then remount it, and then do your nfs or samba configs.
[00:44] <michael__> what options should I use in fstab so that root is not required for mounting the entry, and it does not wait on the device at boot?
[00:44] <ramborocks> are you going to walk me through that? or google and come back?
[00:45] <Teleport> ewook how to obtain mainboard spec via terminal?
[00:45] <ewook> Teleport: lshw
[00:45] <Teleport> lshw
[00:45] <Teleport> ok
[00:45] <ewook> Teleport: sudo lshw
[00:45] <ewook> Teleport:  ;)
[00:45] <Teleport> ewook ofc not that noob
[00:45] <Teleport> :))
[00:45] <ewook> Teleport: Never said you were ;)
[00:46] <ewook> Teleport: but it's easier to be clear in this channel, some miss that part easily ;)
[00:46] <sideup66> ok im back again glitsj16, the bizzare happened
[00:46] <vfw> ramborocks:  ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid
[00:46] <michael__> Teleport, I think a good command for practice right now would be ls /*bin/ls*
[00:46] <sideup66> I disabled the one adapter via software which turned both off
[00:46] <vfw> ramborocks:  ^^^^^ will tell you the blkid
[00:46] <sideup66> upon reboot both turned on ???real strange
[00:47] <vfw> ramborocks:  What is on the drive?
[00:47] <glitsj16> sideup66: heh, complexities do happen
[00:47] <michael__> And then run each with --help
[00:47] <sideup66> I guess next step is to find its driver and just flat out disable lol
[00:47] <glitsj16> sideup66: that's definately worth a shot
[00:47] <Teleport> ewook but noob at hw :p http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642824/
[00:47] <vfw> ramborocks: (How would you want the mount point to appear?) (What name would you want it to be?)
[00:47] <ramborocks> i dont see it im looking for sdc1 still right
[00:48] <vfw> ramborocks: Yep
[00:48] <ramborocks> id like Juggernaunt
[00:48] <sideup66> yes, my logic is linux is somehow confusing the driver with the hard enable/disable switch and trying to control the usb one with that switch, which is made for the internal
[00:48] <sideup66> so turning one off is killing both
[00:48] <vfw> ramborocks: sudo blkid
[00:48] <ramborocks> http://pastebin.com/iHma0VrF
[00:49] <ramborocks> oh ok
[00:49] <glitsj16> sideup66: makes (weird) sense indeed, i hope you can find the internal's driver and blacklist it
[00:49] <vfw> ramborocks: Actually, you don't have to preface it with sudo
[00:49] <ewook> Teleport: kk, nooo worries. I'm just a old hardware junkie ;). Sadly - to figure out the more exact load you can put on each port / controller - a more in depth scematic would be needed...
[00:49] <ewook> Teleport: either way - it is a good idea not to power to much over usb - that's even more clear on laptops.
[00:49] <sideup66> glits: yeah, the wifi in linux is very hodge-podge in my opinion with a few generic drivers powering many devices
[00:49] <ramborocks> http://pastebin.com/kYTndkVB
[00:49] <sideup66> fortunately it shows an artheros device
[00:50] <Teleport> ewook is there any lshw option for only mainboard model?
[00:50] <ramborocks> did you wanna go to pm?
[00:50] <Teleport> ewook im asking you cause want to know if my power sux or not
[00:50] <ramborocks> trying to follow you and all the other chat throwing me off
[00:50] <Teleport> ewook for the whole pc I meant not only the usbs
[00:51] <vfw> ramborocks: So the blkid for /dev/sdc1 is 12C23AD8C23AC031
[00:51] <glitsj16> sideup66: i happen to agree, seen that here before
[00:52] <glitsj16> sideup66: i assume you know your way around blacklisting, if not we can help out
[00:52] <DeSian> hi
[00:52] <sideup66> im trying to find the almighty google to ask about that right now :)
[00:52] <julio> My Wine version (1.6 and all the other either) is running so slowly on Ubuntu 12.04; how ever when I tried Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.10 all the Wine versions works perfect... so what can I do to fix it on Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:52] <ramborocks> ok
[00:52] <vfw> ramborocks: Have you created a mount point yet?  (I always just put it in my /home/vfw/)  Like  mkdir /home/vfw/Movies  or  mkdir /home/vfw/MP3s
[00:53] <sideup66> hm this is weird now oO now xchat is running fine, but nothing else connects
[00:53] <DeSian> why if use other keyboard layout like Kurdish, can't use the Keyboard shortcuts any more?
[00:53] <sideup66> this is fun :D
[00:53] <ramborocks> no ill do that now
[00:53] <ramborocks> just like you just said
[00:53] <glitsj16> :) either add the driver name to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf or add a new file to that dir (make sure the name ends in .conf) just a one-liner in the second case with the correct name for the driver
[00:53] <ramborocks> eh i cant figure out how to make a mount point
[00:54] <ramborocks> im really new...
[00:54] <sideup66> i see and ok
[00:54] <glitsj16> sideup66: one mixed-up wifi you have lol
[00:54] <ramborocks> cd mkdir?
[00:54] <sideup66> I believe i can find it with a modprobe command, and yeah, i think the pc is confused because both cards connected and grabbed their own ips
[00:54] <sideup66> this is one confused system
[00:55] <VlanX> someone else having problems resolving the repository: http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/quantal  ?
[00:55] <glitsj16> sideup66: you can try to load the internal one only so you can use the lsmod command to see what driver it loads to get at the name for blacklisting
[00:55] <sideup66> good call
[00:56] <sideup66> and thanks i couldnt remember what to enter there
[00:56] <glitsj16> no trouble
[00:56] <xangua> VlanX: medibuntu has been dead for almost a year I believe
[00:56] <Bashing-om>  VlanX; medibuntu is no longer maintained, remove the source and all will be fine.
[00:56] <SaberX01> sideup66, the URL you posted does not resolve here either.
[00:57] <VlanX> how do I remove all dead sources?
[00:57] <sideup66> which one? my pastebins?
[00:57] <glitsj16> sideup66: or do a 'lshw -html > ~/Downloads/my-confused-system.html and open that in your browser, should have the driver in use there as well
[00:57] <SaberX01> sideup66, http://packages.medibuntu.org/dists/quantal does not resolve
[00:58] <WhatIsTheMatrix> VlanX:  i tried that link in my web browser. after a bit it said problem loading page
[00:58] <ramborocks> i think i made a mount point
[00:58] <WhatIsTheMatrix> VlanX Server not found
[00:58] <ramborocks> i followed what you did but did home/chad/movies
[00:58] <VlanX> this is alright, if it's no longer mantained..
[00:58] <sideup66> yeah, im stuck with a spinning wheel, think I need to reboot again
[00:58] <sideup66> brb again
[00:58] <VlanX> just how do i remove the bad/old repos?
[01:00] <glitsj16> SaberX01: that's probably because medibuntu is officially 'dead'
[01:00] <WhatIsTheMatrix> VlanX: you could 'cd /etc/apt' and then make a backup copy of your sources.list file. then edit your sources.list file, as root
[01:00] <Bashing-om>  VlanX; The easiest way is from "Software Sources" and "remove" the source.
[01:00] <SaberX01> VlanX, edit /etc/apt/sources.list  ...remove what you want ... then sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get clean, then do an update
[01:01] <VlanX> ok thanks guys
[01:01] <WhatIsTheMatrix> good luck
[01:01] <VlanX> but should I not use quantal anymore?
[01:01] <VlanX> what is the most recent LTS now?
[01:01] <VlanX> 13.10?
[01:01] <xangua> VlanX: 12.04 is the latest LTS
[01:02] <VlanX> omg
[01:02] <WhatIsTheMatrix> 14.04 will be LTS when it's released. i'm using it now as testing
[01:02] <VlanX> okay
[01:02] <VlanX> really?
[01:02] <VlanX> how is it?
[01:02] <WhatIsTheMatrix> yes
[01:02] <ramborocks> anyone able to help me edit the fstab with o the blkid for /dev/sdc1 is 12C23AD8C23AC031
[01:02] <ramborocks> im not sure what todo in there
[01:02] <Bashing-om>  VlanX; When that source has been removed, remember to update and upgrade , this updates all the installed packages.
[01:03] <WhatIsTheMatrix> VlanX: so far so good. but it depends on what all you might do with it.
[01:03] <VlanX> did they finally remove the amazon thing? :D
[01:03] <WhatIsTheMatrix> VlanX: i'm just a casual linux user
[01:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> VlanX: no. but can't you tell it you don't want to be prompted about it again?
[01:04] <VlanX> WhatIsTheMatrix: yeah u can also uninstall that
[01:05] <VlanX> but it's annoying anyways
[01:05] <WhatIsTheMatrix> VlanX: okay. roger that
[01:05] <VlanX> even if i am an amazon user indeed
[01:05] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lol
[01:05] <VlanX> but i dont like the idea of someone enforcing this
[01:05] <VlanX> expecially if linux is meant to be the other way around
[01:05] <VlanX> well anyways
[01:06] <bigbadben> I am trying to play around with my /etc/issue is there a way to see what it will look like when I log on
[01:07] <gdi2k> I am trying to install grub to a raid1 set up from a live CD. I have my raid1 mounted at /mnt/md1 and have chrooted into it. But if I do df it shows as /dev/md0. If I try to grub-install to /dev/md0 it says "no such file or directory". If I try with grub-install /dev/md1, I get "warning: File system `ext2' doesn't support embedding." This is ext4. Any ideas?
[01:07] <WhatIsTheMatrix> VlanX: corporatism in linux.. bleh
[01:09] <sideup66> ok internet works again lol
[01:09] <VlanX> this is weird guys, I'm not finding any *http://packages.medibuntu.org* on my /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:09] <VlanX> ah ok /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[01:10] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ahh, roger
[01:10] <Bashing-om> VLanX; you might have that listing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory.
[01:10] <VlanX> Bashing-om: right
[01:11] <sideup66> ok ive found the internal card in lshw
[01:11] <glitsj16> sideup66: the Atheros one?
[01:11] <sideup66> what information am I specifically looking for from that device for the modprobe
[01:11] <sideup66> and yes
[01:12] <SaberX01> gdi2k, trying using the app called boot repair to install to your RD1 .. it's PPA.
[01:12] <glitsj16> sideup66: does it show a driver info in lshw output? that's what you need
[01:12] <sideup66> can i pastebin what I found?
[01:12] <glitsj16> sure
[01:12] <gdi2k> SaberX01, I would like to but I am remote via command line only :(
[01:13] <sideup66> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6642920/
[01:13] <sideup66> there you go, Im not sure exactly what Im looking for in that pool of output
[01:13] <SaberX01> gdi2k, Ah,, that not gonna help then :-/
[01:14] <glitsj16> sideup66: driver=ath5k, try that
[01:14] <glitsj16> line 13 of the paste
[01:14] <sideup66> glitsj16: put that in the whole disable bit
[01:15] <sideup66> I see that
[01:15] <glitsj16> sideup66: perhaps do suso modprobe -r ath5k first to confirm and then, make it permanent through adding it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[01:15] <glitsj16> *sudo
[01:16] <sideup66> oh blacklist.conf looks very simple :)
[01:17] <sideup66> has some pre set entries and they make it simple to understand
[01:17] <glitsj16> indeed, if using the correct name that will take it out surely
[01:17] <ilux> someone vote for me > http://pt-br.polldaddy.com/poll/7673885/
[01:18] <glitsj16> but that will need another reboot, what does sudo modprobe -r ath5k give you?
[01:18] <sideup66> ok modprobe -r did turn off the card :)
[01:19] <sideup66> guess make it permanent and reboot
[01:19] <glitsj16> sideup66: sweet ..
[01:19] <glitsj16> give it a shot
[01:19] <sideup66> if it doesnt come back, i guess just remove the entry in the list and reboot again
[01:20] <glitsj16> correct
[01:20] <sideup66> ok fire in the hole....
[01:20] <glitsj16> :)
[01:23] <whoever> uBUXUBu: what feature are you talkin' about
[01:23] <uBUXUBu> feature?
[01:24] <uBUXUBu> i looked abck in the text..not sure what you mean whoever
[01:24] <sideup66> hmm ok
[01:24] <sideup66> im back
[01:24] <whoever> uBUXUBu: 19:21 < uBUXUBu:##windows> i dont personally need that feature...but techies want it
[01:25] <glitsj16> sideup66: how does the issue stand?
[01:25] <sideup66> and indeed the card stays on :), interesting note is that both cards are on, somehow it reloaded itself after a cold start
[01:25] <sideup66> the usb I mean
[01:25] <sideup66> it holds its connection
[01:25] <glitsj16> sideup66: okay
[01:26] <uBUXUBu> oh my bad i was in windows and they weer telling me off cuz i said msoft should have made it so ppl can boot from 2.0 or 3.0 usb
[01:26] <sideup66> being that daily use of this machine will be bot-like, and always on, I would assume that the connection will be good enough
[01:26] <glitsj16> sideup66: the internal is still on even after blacklisting?
[01:27] <uBUXUBu> and of course they were suddenly arguing on msoft behalf for no good reason no matter what they say it should be done that way
[01:27] <sideup66> hmm strange
[01:28] <sideup66> i entered modprobe -r for the device again but it complains that line 59 has an incorrect syntax
[01:28] <docmur> Is it possible to LVM existing disk partitions full of data?
[01:28] <glitsj16> sideup66: could you paste both /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and lsmod?
[01:29] <tharkun> docmur: What do you mean by " LVM existing disk partitions"
[01:29] <sideup66> glitsj16: i figured it out
[01:29] <sideup66> i used wrong syntax
[01:29] <sideup66> my mistake
[01:29] <docmur> I have 4 disk, 6 partitions amoung them and I want to have them show up as one large share
[01:29] <glitsj16> sideup66: okay, happens to everyone
[01:30] <glitsj16> i was holding my breath though :p
[01:30] <sideup66> hah, yeah I wrote 'disable' not blacklist
[01:30] <sideup66> oops
[01:30] <glitsj16> better take one of these anti-reboot-sickness pills and try again heh
[01:30] <Sach> Using ubuntu 12.04. How do I uinstall a .bin file that i recently installed?
[01:31] <sideup66> lol, now the command turned it off
[01:31] <sideup66> let me reboot again...
[01:31] <tharkun> sideup66: Reverse the method you used to install it. :)
[01:31] <glitsj16> :) points for tenacity
[01:31] <tharkun> Sach: Reverse the method you used to install it. :)
[01:32] <Sach> tharkun: this is how I installed it: http://pastebin.com/x0Ef3Le6  What do I need to do?
[01:32] <rXmn> I need to build this command: export $var
[01:32] <rXmn> Where $var is NAME=SOMETHING
[01:33] <rXmn> Looping trough a list of envvars i need to export again
[01:34] <ehtesh> is there a way to gather windows from other screens/monitors/workspaces onto one screen?
[01:35] <tharkun> Sach: Go to the website that instructed you to install it and follow the uninstall procedure. According to what you pasted you only need to remove (man rm) the file.
[01:35] <SaberX01> rXmn, may want to look here: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide   ... and here ... http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[01:35] <Spynxic> Anyone familiar with the share feature built into LibreOffice Calc? I can't seem to figure out how to establish a connection between clients
[01:35] <SaberX01> rXmn, and also ask in #bash
[01:36] <Sach> tharkun: how do I remove man rm?
[01:36] <tharkun> Spynxic: #libreoffice might be more usefull
[01:36] <Spynxic> tharkun: I thought so too
[01:37] <tharkun> Sach: on a shell write man rm and you will see the man page for the command rm It explains better the way it works
[01:37] <rXmn> SaberX01: Doing it with export $(sed...)=$(sed...) xD
[01:38] <SaberX01> rXmn, ok .. makes no difference, you simply exporting a variable and looping through a list of them, how you get $VAR doesn't really matter to the loop.
[01:41] <Blob> how do I install ubuntu using an external cd drive?
[01:42] <Spynxic> Does anyone know how to establish a connection with another computer via telepathy?
[01:42] <Sach> tharkun: it tells me to run "rm -- FILENAME".   Simply that it works over the internet but I haven't found the slightest documentation
[01:44] <sideup66> ok im back, glitsj16 thanks!
[01:44] <sideup66> it worked :)
[01:44] <BuntuFuntu> I think it's time for me to buy a second RAM stick for this netbook
[01:45] <Blob> Nice Spynxic nice
[01:45] <glitsj16> sideup66: very nice
[01:45] <glitsj16> :)
[01:45] <BuntuFuntu> 2GB RAM
[01:45] <allan1097> I have a problem, Xubuntu and Lubuntu 13.04 and 13.10. When I start the Live CD from USB, at Start I receive a black screen,
[01:45] <sideup66> sorry for delay, i started x wrong and it freaked out for a few minutes while i had to go fight with it
[01:45] <allan1097> I'm from Lubuntu 12.04 LTS
[01:46] <glitsj16> sideup66: it sure is an eventfull night at the sideup66 residence .. no worries
[01:46] <sideup66> yeah xubuntu 12.04 seems to have a small hiccup
[01:47] <glitsj16> sideup66: this might make a nice bugreport too, but i would understand if you passed up on that tonight
[01:47] <Blob> My external cd drive wont show up in the bios
[01:47] <Blob> how do I get the bios to read it
[01:47] <sideup66> for some reason the x server when you disable its autostart gets a bit tempermental when this is done
[01:47] <SaberX01> !nomodeset | allan1097 - may help
[01:47] <daftykins> Blob: connected properly? with a good cable?
[01:47] <Bashing-om> allan1097: What graphics card ?, many times with ATI and Nvidia cards, the boot option "nomedeset" will get ya to where you can install the proper drivers.
[01:47] <sideup66> I have a home server on debian and it leaves x in memory at all times there-- just turns off the gdm service
[01:47] <tharkun> Sach: FILENAME is the name of the file on the current directory or the /full/name/t/the/FILENAME If you are to run linux you will eventually have to learn to read and be able to learn new stuff by your self.
[01:47] <glitsj16> sideup66: indeed, well i hope your connection turns out to prove stable
[01:48] <Blob> Yes daftykins
[01:48] <allan1097> Bashing-om: It is integrated graphics card, VIA/S3G Unichrome PRO IGP - 64MB
[01:48] <sideup66> it does, seems fine so far, just need to dial that in and actually want to track down one more issue concerning the system trying to address somthing in /sdb with write cache or somthing
[01:48] <sideup66> it seems to fail
[01:48] <sideup66> although only one hd exists
[01:49] <daftykins> Blob: are you sure it's set to auto detect? known-good drive?
[01:49] <Bashing-om> allan1097; I may be mistaken, but Lubunti 12.04 has reached End Of Life (??) unlike (u)buntu.
[01:49] <jman> PLEASE HELP:-( my wifi quit working on me. so it works great on all other devices. it connects and dissconnects and if it decides to work takes minutes to load a page and if it don't load it says can't find server. runnin ubuntu 12.04
[01:49] <Spynxic> Blob, How do you manage telepathy connections?
[01:49] <sideup66> btw, to note this machine only runs the desktop on command, I had originally loaded from an image used for a beige, both are dogecoin miners
[01:49] <sideup66> :)
[01:49] <haoyihuan> my asus turns off while running ubuntu13.04 in 10 mins
[01:49] <Blob> daftykins i do not know i will have to check
[01:50] <Blob> Spynxic no clue
[01:50] <glitsj16> sideup66: no shortage of issues, same here .. keeps us on those toes i guess, goodluck (also with the mining)
[01:50] <sideup66> haoyihuan, is it overheating
[01:50] <allan1097> Ohhhh I forgot
[01:50] <sideup66> glitsj16: thanks, doge isnt worth much but it seems to be growing, be nice to have it let me put a down payment on those college loans in a year or so ;)
[01:50] <allan1097> I believe Lubuntu 12.04 is LTS
[01:51] <sideup66> im going to the moon1
[01:51] <sideup66> !
  seems to be
[01:51] <dimitrilc> AMD/ATI/Intel. Which one do you guys recommend for a triple monitor display?
[01:51] <glitsj16> sideup66: i live in a country that doesn't use study loans system very much, i can fully understand
[01:51] <Framz> Tharkun: Good job helping Sach.  That comment is really showing the spirit of "ubuntu" ...NOT.
[01:51] <dimitrilc> AMD/Nvidia/Intel*
[01:52] <allan1097> What I can do?
[01:52] <sideup66> glitsj16: I see, I wish I went to school in a European country, education seems to matter more there than in my own... ours just worries about the size of a wallet
[01:52] <allan1097> Iḿ using Right now.... Lubuntu 12.04
[01:52] <tharkun> Framz: A fact is a fact. Take it or leave it. Your choice.
[01:53] <glitsj16> sideup66: indeed, and with my 'succes rate' lol, i probably needed that moon to, mars even
[01:53] <Bashing-om> allan1097; worth a shot to see.. try: boot the liveDVD, at the purple splash scrren depress and hold the shift key -> language screen, esc key to acceot the default; -> boot options screen -> f6 key fot preset boot options, arrow down to "nomodeset" space to accept and key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process. advise if you get to a degraded GUI.
[01:54] <sideup66> glitsj16: true... and I think I found the problem on /sdb, looks like somthing wants to talk to the sd reader on here, nothing to read though...
[01:54] <allan1097> I tried
[01:54] <sideup66> sees it as a disk lol, prolly can just disable, for its purpose itll never be used
[01:54] <allan1097> But I can upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10. I activated the
[01:55] <allan1097> and the upgrade is availableç
[01:55] <Bashing-om> allan1097; You mean that you tried to boot with that "nomodeset" option, and it was no good ?
[01:55] <glitsj16> sideup66: can't say i have any experience with sd card readers, but the channel is still awake so put it out there. ehmm here
[01:55] <allan1097> Yes
[01:56] <allan1097> Answer this: If I upgrade to 12.10 this black screen will appear
[01:56] <allan1097> Please
[01:57] <xmetal> ??
[01:57] <tharkun> allan1097: Do you have a backup of your information? If not this is a good time to do it. :)
[01:57] <allan1097> I do not mind the information
[01:58] <allan1097> but I have my Emergency System, I have Lubuntu 12.04 Live CD into my Pendrive
[01:58] <Bashing-om> allan1097; OK, there is a proceedure, d/l the .iso, check that .iso file with md5sum .. did you verify that file ? .. so that you know the file is good ? Next can you boot to the ubuntu try/install screen ?
[01:59] <allan1097> But I can upgrade from lubuntu Installed 12.04
[01:59] <haoyihuan> quit
[01:59] <tharkun> allan1097: 12.04 and 12.10 are within the same major version of ubuntu you should be safe if you run your usual program for udating and upgrading your system. There should be no major changes that might break up your system, unless you have a special video or something similar.
[02:00] <SaberX01> allan1097, another option, is doen load the server addition, install that, then after, add ubuntu-desktop or whatever desktop you like.
[02:00] <SaberX01> *is to download
[02:00] <ROPA>  I have an ubuntu (gnome 3) 13.10 installation with 2 different sound cards, one sound card drives speakers and one drives headphones. I can't figure out how to direct audio that is application specific however.....I want video games and internet phone calls to use the headphones sound system and IRC chat and browser programs to use the speakers. What sound utility program do I need to use so I can custom configure each programs audi
[02:00] <ROPA> o output to sound card of my choice??
[02:00] <tharkun> If your system is fubar beyond your hability or time to repair it. It is a good idea to download a new image verify it and start fresh :)
[02:00] <Bashing-om> allan1097; On the upgrade to 12.10 .. maybe  maybe not so maybe... all depends on what graphics card you have and what the drivers are .. and if you have installed proprietary drivers // and if you do a clean install.
[02:01] <kostkon> ROPA, you need to install the PulseAudio Volume Control utility, its pacakge name is pavucontrol, to be able to do that
[02:01] <xmetal> as much of a pain as what Thark said can be sometimes ... i agree
[02:01] <allan1097> The other question: If I upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10, when I stay in 12.10 . Can I upgrade to 13.04 and 13.10?
[02:01] <ROPA> kostkon awesome, many tnx for the info.
[02:01] <kostkon> ROPA, np
[02:02] <SaberX01> allan1097, upgrading more that two steps is not advised, LTS to LTS is ok .. but 12.04 to 13.10 is not advisable.
[02:03] <allan1097> Will be 14.04 LTS?
[02:03] <Bashing-om> allan1097; Yes the upgrades have gone very smooth for me on 3 different machines .. I am presently running 13.10 on all, upgraded on-line. no problems.
[02:04] <SaberX01> That would be an exception, more so than the rule.
[02:04] <allan1097> Can I hope Lubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[02:05] <jo_> greetings #ubuntu. Im having tough time to install wine on my 13.10 64bits. whatever i try to install it, i get  wine1.7-amd64 : Depends: wine1.7:any (= 1.7.8-0ubuntu1~saucy1)
[02:05] <jo_>                  Recommends: libosmesa6 but it is not going to be installed
[02:05] <jo_> any guess ? thanks !
[02:05] <xmetal> If I am going to "make a few jumps" I personally think its easier to just download the newer ISO and start fresh
[02:05] <wenwen> hello
[02:05] <SonikkuAmerica> allan1097: Yes, 14.04 will be an LTS.
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> allan1097: And yes, 14.04 will be Lubuntu's first LTS release.
[02:06] <Bashing-om> allan1097: (u)buntu version 14.04 will be LTS .. last I was aware the decision had not been made at Lubuntu to support a LTS structure.
[02:06] <allan1097> and then..... What I do?
[02:07] <SaberX01> Lubuntu & Xubuntu support LTS,  but it's not 5yrs, think it's 3yrs
[02:08] <jo_> elp, im so close to switch back to windows :'(
[02:08] <ROPA> kostkon  no joy, pavucontrol does not allow me to adjust the volume for each application......it's not specific to each application.......also, it says volume can't be adjusted until an application is actaully running and putting out audio.
[02:09] <kostkon> ROPA, that's true, but pulseaudio will remember your choice next time, per app
[02:09] <allan1097> You will decide the future of my PC
[02:09] <kostkon> ROPA, in theory, you only need to set the device, volume level etc for an app only once
[02:10] <SaberX01> More Lubuntu info: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-April/003941.html
[02:10] <kostkon> ROPA, the only prerequisite is that the app needs to be running and producing audio to appear in pavucontrol
[02:11] <Blob> how do I get to the boot menu on an asus
[02:11] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Blob: you mean get into the bios settings?
[02:11] <ROPA> kostkon  I saw a program that listed each audio application...and allowed volume and soundcard chooser for every ap running....separte controls for each ap.
[02:12] <kostkon> ROPA, that's pavucontrol
[02:12] <jo_> Les paquets suivants contiennent des dépendances non satisfaites : wine : Dépend: wine1.6 mais ne sera pas installé
[02:12] <BrianH> Has anyone ever gotten preseed installations working?
[02:12] <ROPA> kostkon unfortunately, I cant remember the name of the program!!!!
[02:12] <jo_> woops sorry
[02:12] <Jordan8> what all?
[02:12] <Blob> yeah it is a win8 computer but the I cant change the boot setting
[02:12] <qin> jo_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get install wine (or check if there is ppa with higher version if needed)
[02:13] <BrianH> Nvm, it's working now ...
[02:13] <Blob> yeah it is a win8 computer but the I cant change the boot setting WhatIsTheMatrix
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> jo_: I barely know French but I know what that means.
[02:13] <jo_> qin: thks so much, im tryin right now !
[02:13] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Blob: try pressing the 'Delete' key as it's booting. just keep repeatedly pressing it if you have to until the bios menu appears
[02:14] <Jordan8> why not work for me: sudo rm -Rf /
[02:14] <qin> jo_: also other distros (like sabayon) will get version much before ubuntu
[02:14] <ROPA> kostkon an example is my laptop, I am streaming music using firefox, so I want a low volume for that......but, I want to be able to hear the output if a friend pages me on irc, so xchat needs to have a very loud outpuit.........
[02:14] <SonikkuAmerica> !DANGER | Jordan8
[02:14] <qin> Jordan8: That's really boring
[02:15] <Blob> WhatIsTheMatrix, it says fast boot is disabled
[02:15] <SonikkuAmerica> WhatIsTheMatrix: (By the way the answer is Skynet)
[02:15] <sideup66> ok im back, sorry
[02:15] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Blob: you're in the bios menu now?
[02:15] <oopax> HEllo
[02:15] <WhatIsTheMatrix> SonikkuAmerica: not too bad of an answer. but i'd say that's not really it
[02:15] <Jordan8> im not Robinson
[02:16] <kostkon> ROPA, set an appropriate sound for the beep or message event in xchat, settings -> preferences -> sound
[02:16] <Jordan8> im Jordan
[02:16] <Blob> WhatIsTheMatrix, yep
[02:16] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Blob: okay. so it's set to fast boot. so is my asus system
[02:16] <Jordan8> Ubuntu have filter and rm / not work yes?
[02:17] <Blob> how do I change it to where I can put ubuntu on it through an external cd drive
[02:17] <ROPA> kostkon i'll have a look at xchat, many tnx and gzl.
[02:17] <qin> Jordan8: yes
[02:17] <j4n6> hi all! Any of you that can tell me a lightweight solution for the DE/WM that can have a panel with global/appmenu? Tried some with xfce panel and lxde panel but both dont seem to support that atm
[02:17] <Jordan8> how disable filter?
[02:17] <Blob> WhatIsTheMatrix, how do I change it to where I can put ubuntu on it through an external cd drive
[02:17] <qin> Jordan8: not supported here, i guess
[02:18] <WhatIsTheMatrix> SonikkuAmerica: i would say that's part of it tho ;-)
[02:18] <Jordan8> what with Unity next?
[02:18] <SonikkuAmerica> j4n6: MATE can have it
[02:18] <kostkon> ROPA, np good luck
[02:18] <JohnH> Jordan8:  y do u want to do this?
[02:18] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Blob: iirc, it's boot drive priority setting
[02:18] <j4n6> could i use mates panel and gala as wm?
[02:18] <acecipher> Hi, can anyone here help me get my audio working? I need to change the default PCM device.
[02:19] <Jordan8> Hawaii is the bestest DE! http://www.maui-project.org/news/2013/12/24/hawaii-020-released/
[02:19] <Blob> WhatIsTheMatrix, okay now how do get the added boot option to run
[02:20] <Jordan8> http://www.maui-project.org/images/showcase/screenshots/appchooser.png
[02:20] <j4n6> whats cool about that new project Joran8?
[02:20] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Blob: use the plus and minus keys(+/-) to change the priority of the drives for booting to.
[02:20] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Blob: there might be a setting somewhere in the bios to set/unset booting from optical drive as well
[02:20] <jo_> qin: so the problem is the same : he tells me thats he needs wine1.6, but it wont be installed. If i try to install wine1.6 manually, it will prompt me another like error ...
[02:21] <jo_> qin: am i dumb ?
[02:21] <bugtraq> OLa
[02:21] <Jordan8> Hawaii on the QT. RazorQT and LXDE died.
[02:21] <Jordan8> qt5 is nice
[02:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Jordan8: LXDE and Razor did not die.
[02:22] <j4n6> is there the kde global menu using hawaii?
[02:22] <SonikkuAmerica> Jordan8: LXDE + Razor = the new LXDE.
[02:22] <Blob> WhatIsTheMatrix, when I create a boot option I asks for a file path
[02:22] <Jordan8> nope they die no! udk
[02:22] <SonikkuAmerica> LXDE-Qt, or just LXQt for short.
[02:22] <Jordan8> yes and its new project
[02:22] <Jordan8> LXDE based on the old gtk2
[02:22] <SaberX01> Plus Mir DM
[02:23] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Blob: i'm not sure what you are looking at/seeing. this is in the bios?
[02:23] <Blob> WhatIsTheMatrix, yes
[02:23] <Jordan8> and RazorQT was very very prealpha version
[02:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Wow, you know not of which you speak. As a Lubuntu Communications member, I am telling you, neither LXDE nor Razor are dead or dying.
[02:24]  * acecipher is using LXDE right now
[02:24] <Jordan8> now both died
[02:24] <j4n6> is there, now, any point in getting mir instead of bugfixing?:D
[02:25] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Blob: i don't think i know how to help with that. i just set the drive to boot from. if i need to boot up from a bootable dvd, i set my dvd drive to be the first (priority) drive and i'm done
[02:25] <Jordan8> sonni no, LXDE gtk2 and RazorQT died 100 %
[02:25] <j4n6> anyway, i really need some advice: theres nothing xcept the mate desktop that can have global menu and still being light weight? i like unity but id love to get some less battery use out of the machine
[02:25] <Jordan8> now only LXDE-QT
[02:25] <SaberX01> j4n6, all depends on the purpose of you box, if it's a test box only try it out, send in bug rpts reports, but if it's for production use, better stick with LTS versions.,
[02:25] <Jordan8> and its new DE
[02:25] <Blob> WhatIsTheMatrix, my external wont show up in the bios
[02:26] <sideup66> does anyone know how to disable a device on a xubuntu 12.04 system
[02:26] <j4n6> SaberX01 actually my machine is funky with lts but smooth with 13.10, its some driver issue form lenovo...its the same with windows too it only really works well with pure win8.1 drivers
[02:26] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Blob: oh... external drive. don't know, sorry
[02:26] <Jordan8> LXDE-QT not lightweight
[02:26] <sideup66> the machine has a built in sd-card reader that is located on /dev/sdb, and it seems somthing in the shell keeps trying to write some type of cache i believe to it and throwing failure errors into the shell
[02:26] <Jordan8> and I installed Hawaii
[02:26] <Blob> WhatIsTheMatrix, usb wont even show up
[02:27] <sideup66> It isnt necessary so my best bet is probably to just shut it off
[02:27] <j4n6> all i want is to get maximum screen estate if i could use xfce with global menu and gala wm that would b what i want
[02:27] <SaberX01> j4n6, I dont have any real hardware running 13.10 .. only VM's for install testing.
[02:27] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Blob: i have an external blu-ray usb drive. and i bet if i hooked it up and went into the bios, i doubt i could select it as a bootable drive either
[02:27] <jo_> ok. Thats it, im leaving linux.  Now i get why its free.
[02:27] <j4n6> SaberX01 unity got faster on 13.10, its perfect and better battery usage then kde ^^
[02:27] <sideup66> jo
[02:27] <sideup66> what is your problem?
[02:28] <j4n6> jo : bb
[02:28] <WhatIsTheMatrix> jo_: lol
[02:28] <WhatIsTheMatrix> linux ROCKS!
[02:28] <WhatIsTheMatrix> nothing is hidden
[02:28] <j4n6> gnu/linux. take the time to state it right
[02:28] <WhatIsTheMatrix> yeah, gnu/linux
[02:28] <jo_> (it was meant to make you react and help me get over a godamn dependency problem !
[02:28] <Jordan8> What about ReactOS? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNo34VPJqsw
[02:28] <Blob> WhatIsTheMatrix, I will just take to the place I got it and have them do it
[02:28] <sideup66> I look at linux and windows like this: linux is a diesel truck, it can be more a pain to setup, but once its done, itll run til the hardware around it literally breaks down
[02:28] <oopax> hhh
[02:29] <sideup66> what is the dependency problem?
[02:29] <kostkon> jo_, add the ppa, try installing the latest version, instructions on the wine website
[02:29] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Blob: okay. you can keep asking if you want. someone lese might know something i don't
[02:29] <sideup66> windows is like a gasoline car, easy to drive and all, but breaks down over time
[02:29] <sideup66> linux just keeps chugging
[02:29] <j4n6> sideup66 : you are horribly wrong. windows 8.1 is a dream, for normal use its perfect. ubuntu can come close but windows beats osx and linux on performance. linux and os are pretty though
[02:29] <jo_> seriously, the prompt is litteraly saying : i cant, i miss the xxx version. And i wont install it.
[02:29] <oopax> side true that!
[02:30] <Jordan8> yes just use ReactOS
[02:30] <Blob> WhatIsTheMatrix, thank you for the help, kind sir
[02:30] <oopax> cat the log
[02:30] <glitsj16> j4n6: you might be able to do what you want using a custom xsession, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession for an intro could help
[02:30] <j4n6> windows 8.1 is an awesome os as is 7, but if u need unix u gotta use osx or gnu its simple.
[02:30] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Blob: sure. you're welcome. good luck
[02:30] <sideup66> I like linux for primarily work purpose machines, like if I need a server or a bot, its getting good, but not quite there yet as a desktop os
[02:30] <j4n6> glitsj16 i already changed the session to get gala but the fricking global menu for xfce...i cant get it to work
[02:30] <sideup66> in purpose builds, its beautiful, just doesnt break
[02:31] <j4n6> sideup windows is fine for work too, small to medium server are totally fine with it
[02:31] <oopax> jo.... cat the /var/log
[02:31] <j4n6> theres no being better osx and windows are pretty awesome spyware and they are kinda for free too since u get one with every pc/mac u buy
[02:31] <bjrohan> How do I make sure my ~/bin and all of it's subdirectories are in my $PATH? I have a /bin directory,  so according the my .profile file, it looks like at least /bin is in $PATH
[02:32] <j4n6> bin is always in path
[02:32] <SaberX01> No it's not, not they way he wrote it ~/bin
[02:32] <j4n6> echo $PATH
[02:33] <SaberX01> if you want ~/bin .. you need to add it to your ~/.bashrc
[02:33] <glitsj16> j4n6: not sure this still applies, and maybe you've already seen it .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/27189/is-there-a-global-menu-for-the-xfce-panel
[02:33] <cvtsx> hey saber ;)
[02:33] <SaberX01> j4n6, ~/bin .. unless he's added that is not in env path
[02:33] <SaberX01> cvtsx, Hey .. how goes the server wars
[02:33] <j4n6> i get it, didnt see the ~ since he didnt state it in the second time he wrote /bin
[02:34] <cvtsx> lol ehh alright i guess
[02:34] <j4n6> btw call it /opt if u want to install programs in your user dir and then softlink them to /bin
[02:34] <rob_here> Hi guys!
[02:34] <WhatIsTheMatrix> hello
[02:35] <rob_here> First time on IRC >.> and first time I've spent a lot of quality time with ubuntu
[02:35] <j4n6> hmm doesnt look like i get global menu with xfce panel or any panel i could use instead:(
[02:35] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cool
[02:36] <cvtsx> i guess i can retry with znc, wont  bother you guys as much again lool
[02:36] <cvtsx> i was sleep deprived last time
[02:36] <jman> can anyone help me fix my wifi it quit working
[02:37] <kostkon> rob_here, hi
[02:37] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rob_here: so how do you like it so far? what do you think?
[02:37] <jo_> kostkon: i really appreciate your help. However, the link given is apt://wine.1.4 . i never saw a link like that
[02:37] <j4n6> jman u gotta give us the logs and stuff if ukow what i mean
[02:37] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rob_here: are you new to gnu/linux?
[02:37] <rob_here> yes, I've been a windows zombie for a while
[02:37] <Jordan8> bb friends i go fap
[02:37] <kostkon> jo_, the version is wrong anyways, the latest is 1.7.9
[02:37] <rob_here> why did your names turn red?
[02:38] <j4n6> rob_here : did it work at first?
[02:38] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rob_here: cool. no worries
[02:38] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rob_here: it's because i prefixed my post with your nick
[02:38] <bjrohan> If ~/bin is in my $PATH, does that mean all sub directories are also searched?
[02:38] <cvtsx> I like linux (ubuntu specifically) , but windows has some programs i use everyday (and are only compatible with windows).
[02:39] <j4n6> bjrohan : just dont put a bin dir in your home folder, period
[02:39] <j4n6> cvtsx : whats those programs?
[02:39] <SaberX01> !fhs | bjrohan Good Reference Material
[02:39] <rob_here> well I got a SSD and tossed in an ubuntu live disk, I have a pretty solid rig for gaming, and it installed like butter, and plays like something you'd really like eat with butter
[02:40] <cvtsx> j4n6: steam, visual studio is about it
[02:40] <jo_> kostkon: cant see it in the winehq website. Guess what, im tryin sudo apt-get install wine 1.7.9. The fate of this command is sooo unknown !
[02:40] <cvtsx> but steam includes all my games so...
[02:40] <bjrohan> j4n6: I have one in their already,  but for some reason a script about 3 below is not being run, even after logging out and back in to load the .profile
[02:40] <L-Chymera> hi, what linux application can I use to separate a big .flac with .cue and .log mtadata into single tracks?
[02:40] <rob_here> so what does prefixing my user name do for you?
[02:40] <j4n6> j4n6 : steam works with ubuntu, visual studio welll...unless you are coding big projects theres better solutions/as good solutions
[02:40] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rob_here: if you prefix you post with someone(s) nick(s), they'll see it in red if their irc client is configured to do so. so that a post to them stands out from the rest of the chat
[02:40] <SaberX01> bjrohan, the $PATH is not recursive
[02:41] <jo_> kostkon: Oh! what a surprise ! it wont install, cause there is a broken dependency ! how surprinsing !
[02:41] <rob_here> is there a good site check out irc commands?
[02:41] <cvtsx> yeah i know but not all my games are compatible, and i will (only like once actually lol) use code:blocks but visual studio definitely is the best
[02:41] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rob_here: you can use what's called 'nick completion', you type in say..  WhatIs... then press TAB
[02:41] <bjrohan> SaberX01: thank you
[02:41] <kostkon> jo_, here http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu  like it says, give sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa   then sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install wine1.7
[02:42] <j4n6> bjrohan : ill tell u one last time: dont do what u are going to do. there shouldnt be any folders inside any /bin if u wnat to store programs store them i /opt or ~/opt
[02:42] <j4n6> jo : just delete ubuntu, install windows. if the biggest of your concerns is to get windows stuff working with wine just dont use ubuntu
[02:43] <SaberX01> !ppa | jo_
[02:43] <jo_> kostkon: as you seem most comprehensive than others, ill stop all sarcasm and follow your wise advice. Dude, my futur on this Os depend of you :D
[02:43] <rob_here> so I type "say. .  WhatIs. . ." or "WhatIs. . ."?
[02:43] <rob_here> oh, wait I get it
[02:43] <rob_here> nevermind
[02:43] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rob_here: okay, cool
[02:44] <acecipher> Hi, does anyone know how to change the PCM device in Alsa?
[02:44] <rob_here> WhatIsTheMatrix, gotcha
[02:44] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rob_here: awesome
[02:44] <rob_here> WhatIsTheMatrix,
[02:44] <SaberX01> jo_, If the future selection for a Linux Distribution depends on using WINE  .. then serious consideration should be given to another platform OS all together.
[02:44] <rob_here> j4n6, hi, sorry still learnin a bit
[02:45] <jo_> ubottu: well i kinda like the main purpose of Linux. Free, community, alternativ, efficient in some ways.. but i need to use soft i work with. So if linux is not for ppl like me, there is a huge problem, cause a lot of ppl are working with soft build for window
[02:45] <rob_here> WhatIsTheMatrix, very similar to how some MMOs chat
[02:45] <cvtsx> bots can be intelligent
[02:45] <jo_> ubottu: well thats for your creator
[02:45] <Xcytre> Why not have two machines?
[02:45] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rob_here: ahh, i hear you
[02:45] <j4n6> iv got a windows desktop to play and my laptop to work. even though windows would work as well
[02:46] <jo_> j4n6: well i kinda like the main purpose of Linux. Free, community, alternativ, efficient in some ways.. but i need to use soft i work with.  X-Windows was something very new. i had no X for a long time until i finally found my way around some, and then finally figured out how to setup/configure X
[02:46] <j4n6> jo : what do u need to work? the earlier mentioned visual studio is the only work tool that wont run on linux. and office but libre office is as good unless ur writing papers then its a little harder to setup some stuff
[02:47] <j4n6> WhatIsTheMatrix: gentoo oldschool stage1:D
[02:47] <WhatIsTheMatrix> j4n6: roger. :-) my first was RH 5.1
[02:47] <jo_> kostkon: ppa adding : check. sudo apt-get update : check. sudo apt-get install wine1.7 :  wine1.7 : Depends: wine1.7-i386 (= 1.7.8-0ubuntu1~saucy1)
[02:47] <jo_> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[02:48] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Red Hat 5.1
[02:48] <j4n6> WhatIsTheMatrix : my first linu was some very old suse. i still hate the distro:D
[02:48] <jo_> j4n6: i need to use matrix gemvision. Also, i admit it, Eve online.
[02:49] <kostkon> jo_, then give  sudo apt-get install wine1.6 wine1.7-i386
[02:49] <kostkon> jo_, no, i meant!
[02:49] <kostkon> jo_, then give  sudo apt-get install wine1.7 wine1.7-i386
[02:49] <WhatIsTheMatrix> j4n6: copy that. i've never tried suse
[02:50] <j4n6> WhatIsTheMatrix : the new suse is about the best kde if u can call kde best_D
[02:50] <WhatIsTheMatrix> j4n6: do you like kde at all?
[02:50] <j4n6> jo : did u try apt-get install wine at first? i just did that a hundred times and no problems so far
[02:50] <j4n6> WhatIsTheMatrix, : at first i prefered gnome as a name.then as a de. now i still dont like kde:D
[02:50] <jo_> j4n6: of course. First thing i did.
[02:51] <jo_> kostkon: http://pastebin.com/NmcRRSbG here is the output of the command
[02:51] <j4n6> jo : are u using 12.04?
[02:51] <WhatIsTheMatrix> j4n6: i kind of like a lot of the window managers and desktop environments, but not some of the really old crusty one's, like olvwm
[02:51] <SaberX01> j4n6, :-) .. was gonna say, Best & KDE are two words I'd never put together .. lol
[02:51] <jo_> j4n6: negative. Im running 13.10. on 64bits architecture
[02:52] <kostkon> jo_, hmm what graphics driver are you using
[02:52] <j4n6> jo :  im too and it did just install some hours ago...lemme google that log
[02:52] <WhatIsTheMatrix> j4n6: i like WindowMaker though. i can even take Motif
[02:52] <j4n6> looks like your mesa is messed up
[02:52] <j4n6> j4n6 : winow make > kde okay, its still not good:D
[02:53] <jo_> kostkon: thats a good question. However how could this be a driver related problem ?
[02:53] <jo_> j4n6: sure. Maybe youll have more luck than me
[02:54] <j4n6> jo : did u try -f as option to force install? it could be a drive rproblem because mesa is related to your driver
[02:54] <jgautier> I have been trying to install xbmcbuntu and ubuntu off of a USB drive for the last few hours and I keep getting "Failed to isntall bootloader
[02:54] <jgautier> ive tried 2 different usb sticks
[02:54] <jgautier> and ubuntu 12.0 and xbmcubuntu both have the same problem
[02:54] <jo_> j4n6: what is mesa ?
[02:54] <WhatIsTheMatrix> since i'm using 'trusty'(testing) the ubuntu de(compiz/gnome/unity) is unstable. so i'm using kde which had a fairly nice recent 4.12.0 release in trutsy. and it seems pretty stable.
[02:54] <j4n6> just try apt-get install -f wine at first
[02:55] <j4n6> WhatIsTheMatrix, : its table but it hoggs more ressources or the same as unity and then unity has better alt+tab:)
[02:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> j4n6: true, that
[02:55] <j4n6> and out of the box super+number window switching
[02:55] <kostkon> jo_, hmmm http://askubuntu.com/questions/138530/why-do-i-get-an-unmet-dependencies-error-when-trying-to-install-wine/190424#190424
[02:56] <j4n6> kostkon whawt do u think will happen if he follows the stuff and types vi ... hes gonna kill his pc cuz that editor doesnt write stuff:D
[02:56] <kostkon> j4n6, yeah, better vi -> nano
[02:56] <WhatIsTheMatrix> j4n6: you ever use enlightenment? i just tried compiling it from source, and wow, i finally got it to all to compile, but 0.17.5 wasn't very stable and then they just released and 0.18.1 and i had libtool problems trying to compile it
[02:57] <jo_> j4n6: i tryed -f also. nvidia settings tells me im on 304.88 version.
[02:57] <j4n6> WhatIsTheMatrix, i used it briefly as it was beta ... 10years ago:D id say that xfce/unity are the best complete DE u can get
[02:58] <jo_> kostkon: thks im looking at it
[02:58] <j4n6> jo did u add some ppa or click on some of the software sources in the manager?
[02:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> j4n6: i've used xfce a little before and liked it well enough. i do like the compositing features in the ubuntu de and kde though. i don't think xfce has compositing feature... or does it? been a long time since i've tried it
[02:59] <j4n6> WhatIsTheMatrix, you can pretty easily use gala for compositing
[02:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> j4n6: ahh, interesting. don't know what that is. i might check it out
[02:59] <j4n6> WhatIsTheMatrix, :
[03:00] <jo_> j
[03:00] <j4n6> ah cant paste shitty lxde de
[03:00] <jo_> j4n6: yep but i deleted them
[03:00] <j4n6> http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/14heuu/xfce_gala_plank_awesome/
[03:00] <j4n6> now it worked thats gala+xfce
[03:00] <WhatIsTheMatrix> j4n6: okay, thank you
[03:01] <jman> whats the paste website
[03:01] <j4n6> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[03:01] <jo_> kostkon: do you mind to provide an assistance for that link u provided ? looks like it is a bit dated; and i dont want to screw my OS !
[03:01] <glitsj16> WhatIsTheMatrix: xfwm4 always had compositing
[03:02] <j4n6> gala is just a lot nicer;)
[03:02] <jo_> kostkon: like pin-priority 2012
[03:02] <jman> okay maybe this will help
[03:02] <jman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6643234/
[03:02] <rob_here> is there a way for me to connect to multiple networks at the same time?
[03:02] <jo_> its 2014 dude !
[03:02] <j4n6> gala is pretty awesome gala+plank has that nice alt+tab
[03:03] <SaberX01> rob_here, what do you mean by multiple_networks .. via SSH or LAN  or ??
[03:03] <j4n6> jo if u wnat to try this: boot with the livecd and try apt-get install wine. if it works u messed something up and we can work from there. or u reinstall
[03:03] <rob_here> SaberX01, as in IRC chat groups :P
[03:03] <j4n6> sure u can rob:D
[03:03] <jo_> j4n6: no problem. See you in 5 min :) thks alot :)
[03:04] <j4n6> xchat can do new->server thing
[03:04] <MrJerome> starting today whenever I boot up I get a system program internal error
[03:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> glitsj16: oh? been years since i've used it and i don't think it had it back in the day when i used it.
[03:04] <SaberX01> rob_here, yes, what program you using for IRC
[03:04] <MrJerome> I'm on 13.10
[03:04] <rob_here> new->server
[03:04] <rob_here> SaberX01, xchat
[03:05] <glitsj16> WhatIsTheMatrix: i think you have to enable it explicitly through the window manager tweaks settings
[03:05] <rajrajraj> as in windows there is regedit i.e. registry editor what is there in ubuntu 12.10.
[03:05] <SaberX01> rob_here, use Ctrl+S and connect to whatever ya like.
[03:06] <WhatIsTheMatrix> glitsj16: okay. i will check it out if i install xfdesktop. been thinking about installing it.
[03:06] <SaberX01> wow
[03:06] <rob_here> SaberX01, ah, there we go. Tyvm
[03:06] <MrJerome> I'm gonna reboot and get the exact message
[03:07] <WhatIsTheMatrix> glitsj16: guess i'll go ahead and install it right now ;-)
[03:07] <acecipher> Does anyone know where my Alsa config files would be? >.>
[03:07] <acecipher> I think its not detecting my clock timing right.
[03:08] <glitsj16> WhatIsTheMatrix: http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/wmtweaks seems to confirm that, but as so often, isn't updated to actuality .. i found it to be very reliable though
[03:08] <WhatIsTheMatrix> glitsj16: cool. thanks
[03:08] <j4n6> aceipher your clock is wrong with which distri?
[03:09] <Blob> how do I get to the boot from an external drive so I can install ubuntu
[03:09] <j4n6> Blob you cant boot from external drives, use a pendrive usb
[03:09] <SaberX01> Blob, make sure you set you BIOS to boot from portable media first, get to you boot menu and select the media to boot from.
[03:10] <acecipher> j4n6, lubuntu
[03:10] <ROPA> you can boot from an external drive, but you must install the image file of the installation.......not just copy it.
[03:11] <acecipher> Its a problem with the base Alsa PCM, though, or something. When I manually set the PCM in Audacious it works fine.
[03:11] <j4n6> acecipher i dont know about lubuntu that much, cant help u sorry all i know is that usually that stuff works out of the box since maybe ubuntu 9
[03:11] <rob_here> thanks for the help tonight guys.
[03:11] <ROPA> you can also boot from a partition where the installation image is...........there's help on the ubuntu pages where you download the images.
[03:12] <SaberX01> He needs an image to install first, LiveCD, USB something, and that means he has to boot it in most cases, before he can install it.
[03:12] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rob_here: cheers. enjoy
[03:12] <Blob> thank you SaberX01, after I install ubuntu will I have boot from the external drive  or no
[03:12] <acecipher> Well its a base alsa problem. I'd not expect lxde to interfere with that.
[03:12] <administrator_> hello
[03:12] <ROPA> SaberX01 got it!!!!
[03:12] <acecipher> I had the same problem under ubuntu.
[03:12] <SaberX01> Blob,  if thats how you install the boot loader yes, but that's up to you.
[03:14] <j4n6> jo did it work with the live cd?
[03:14] <acecipher> I mean, in many ways I'm more comfortable in a terminal than a GUI
[03:14] <jo_> j4n6: okay well thats a good bad news, but i confirm sudo apt-get install wine on live cd result an error
[03:14] <rajrajraj> how do i enable the universe software repo. in ubuntu 12.10. i have tried askubuntu.com but it didnt work
[03:15] <BuntuFuntu> My SSD for some reason stopped working
[03:15] <BuntuFuntu> O_O
[03:15] <acecipher> Alternatively is there somewhere where I can get help from people who know alsa?
[03:15] <acecipher> BuntuFuntu, how old is it?
[03:15] <sajan> rajrajraj: In 12.10, I think you can enable it in he "Software and Sources" app.
[03:15] <sajan> rajrajraj: Software and Updates
[03:15] <jo_> j4n6: somehow my selfesteem feel a bit better now
[03:15] <j4n6> jo its the same error again?
[03:15] <rajrajraj> sajan: tried , but kam nahi aya
[03:15] <BuntuFuntu> Eh, I'm not exactly sure, got it off a friend who didn't want it anymore after buying a regular HDD
[03:15] <jo_> j4n6: yeah
[03:16] <Blob> what if I install the boot loader somewhere else instead of the the external drive
[03:16] <j4n6> jo can u paste the error again?
[03:16] <jo_> sure
[03:16] <SaberX01> Blob, the boot loader needs to me installed in the MBR not the external HD
[03:16] <peezybro> Hey all
[03:17] <SaberX01> Blob, for example, /dev/sda
[03:17] <Blob> okay thank you
[03:17] <linuxuz3r> is there a system log for ubuntu
[03:18] <j4n6> linuxuz3r, yes
[03:18] <Utopy> Have you ever had problems with technology "advanced format"?
[03:18] <jo_> j4n6: http://pastebin.com/cLZcq0rq here you go :)
[03:18] <SaberX01> linuxuz3r, /var/log/syslog  .. and dmesg
[03:19] <WhatIsTheMatrix> and /var/log/kern.log
[03:19] <rajrajraj> how can i send USD from modem i have attached to my ubuntu 12.10
[03:19] <Barrin6> USD?
[03:20] <BuntuFuntu> USD?
[03:20] <Barrin6> us dollars?
[03:20] <BuntuFuntu> Afaik I know, USD means US Dollar
[03:20] <BuntuFuntu> Do you mean USB?
[03:21] <Barrin6> but that still doesn't make any sense :P
[03:21] <MrJerome> I restarted and the error was gone :/
[03:21] <BuntuFuntu> Exactly
[03:21] <BuntuFuntu> :p
[03:21] <j4n6> jo i wrote u in a seperate window
[03:21] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lol
[03:21] <Barrin6> rajrajraj,
[03:21] <WhatIsTheMatrix> maybe he needs to ask Ben Bernanke
[03:21] <rajrajraj> usd is like *123# as in mobile phones
[03:22] <peezybro> Sorry to just jump into the convo, but does anyone recommend a IDE for Web Development? I was using aptana on windows but don't like it on linux.
[03:22] <Utopy> peezybro: bluefish
[03:23] <Utopy> not perfect, but good :)
[03:23] <rajrajraj> in other words i wanna dial *123# from the dial modem i have. and yes i have goota see the result
[03:23] <rajrajraj> dial up*
[03:23] <Utopy> you have an app to manage your shared between your browser bookmarks?
[03:23] <peezybro> I will check it out!!!
[03:23] <rajrajraj> Barrin6: i just explained what i meant
[03:24] <Utopy> else vim :]
[03:24] <SaberX01> !ide | peezybro,
[03:24] <Barrin6> sorry I am not knowledgeable in that area of expertise rajrajraj
[03:24] <rajrajraj> Barrin6: k :)
[03:24] <jman> j4n6 did you get the logs
[03:24] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !info minicom
[03:26] <nutter_> d
[03:26] <j4n6> peezybro :the cool kids use sublime text. or vim. i really dont see the need for a IDE since u need an editor and a browser. if your talking ruby developement..that works without ide too
[03:26] <MrJerome> i like sublimetext
[03:26] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rajrajraj: i'm not sure, but what you're looking for might be 'minicom'
[03:27] <Barrin6> yea I"m a sublime text fanboi. But I heard vim is "trendy"
[03:27] <Barrin6> like if you don't use vim, you aren't cool
[03:27] <somsip_> Barrin6: mostly you'll find that people hear are a bit more mature than that
[03:27] <somsip_> *here
[03:28] <somsip_> Barrin6: use what works. Simple as that
[03:28] <rajrajraj> WhatIsTheMatrix: can be but the problem is i am unable to use universe source repo.
[03:28] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rajrajraj: oh. well, i suppose that could be a problem
[03:29] <rajrajraj> WhatIsTheMatrix: i always get this result "E: Unable to locate package minicon"
[03:29] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rajrajraj: it is... minicom   ...not minicon
[03:29] <j4n6> Barrin6,  yeah vim is trendy because vim+tmux is handy
[03:30] <j4n6> and because vim is open, free and does all the stuff sublime text does
[03:30] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rajrajraj: maybe that's the problem?
[03:30] <jman> j4n6 did you get the logs
[03:30] <rajrajraj> WhatIsTheMatrix: no, i get the similar result
[03:30] <ehtesh> is there a way to gather windows from other screens/monitors/workspaces onto one screen?
[03:30] <SaberX01> rajrajraj, do you have universe enabled in your source list, as minicom is definitely in there.
[03:30] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rajrajraj: ohh, i see. that sux
[03:30] <ehtesh> also, is there an image viewer that lets me rename the images?
[03:31] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rajrajraj: what SaberX01 said
[03:31] <ehtesh> eog and shotwell don't, as far as I can tell
[03:31] <rajrajraj> SaberX01: yes, but i am not sure if it worked, coz i am unable to down load any thing from Univ source repo
[03:32] <wizesolomon> Hello, I have a problem, I think I accidently saved a very very important file on my swap partition thinking it was a usb device I have also encrypted the whole swap partition using truecrypt. When I try to decrypt it I am told that i must specify a filesystem. I am very lost and really really need that file! any help is greatly appreciated!
[03:32] <SaberX01> rajrajraj, do a clean up first, sudo apt-get autoclean; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update
[03:32] <Utopy> wizesolomon: you lose
[03:32] <Utopy> sorry
[03:32] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ehtesh: gwenview has a rename function
[03:32] <jrib> wizesolomon: how did you save it/
[03:33] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !infor gwenview
[03:33] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !info gwenview
[03:33] <j4n6> jman : no didnt see any logs im writing in a second window, hard to follow both
[03:33] <rajrajraj> SaberX01: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:33] <jman> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6643234/
[03:33] <Utopy> rajrajraj: other process wait ?
[03:33] <rajrajraj> SaberX01: E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[03:33] <wizesolomon> The drive mounted automattically after it was encrypted and i just saved it like i would have on any drive by finding the mounted drive in the home folder
[03:33] <rajrajraj> Utopy: idk
[03:34] <Utopy> or you not root
[03:34] <rajrajraj> Utopy: i shall try with it being root
[03:34] <jrib> wizesolomon: your encrypted swap mounted automatically to your home?
[03:34] <qwertyqwerty> I am about to a reinstall and want to back up my user settings. I am unable to boot into the system I am about to overwrite, but have managed to clone all the partitions to a backup drive with dd. My home folder is part of a separate partition can I replacethe new home folder with the backup to restore the settings? I also want to be able to restore the packages I've installed on the old install.
[03:34] <SaberX01> rajrajraj, you need sudo, and make sure nothing else has a lock on updates, like Synaptic or the SW Center.
[03:35] <rajrajraj> Utopy: same result
[03:35] <rajrajraj> SaberX01: yes SW did , trying again
[03:35] <qwertyqwerty> I am currently running a liveUSB image of Ubuntu 13.10, the old system is Ubuntu <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:36] <wizesolomon> I encrypted a partition on my drive that I thought was a usb dev/sda3 later I realized it was the swap partition when I looked at diskutil. After I had encrypted the drive I saved a file on it.
[03:36] <rajrajraj> SaberX01: same result
[03:36] <rajrajraj> :( i know something is really wrong
[03:36] <Utopy> qwertyqwerty: there is a tutorial on documentation
[03:36] <Utopy> rajrajraj: what is your problem ?
[03:37] <rajrajraj> Utopy: can not use universe source repo
[03:37] <qwertyqwerty> Utopy: What tutorial?
[03:38] <Utopy> rajrajraj: $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:38] <Utopy> qwertyqwerty: for list installed paquet
[03:39] <qwertyqwerty> Utopy: does that work from a liveusb using chroot?
[03:39] <rajrajraj> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal restricted main multiverse universe deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal restricted main multiverse universe #Added by software-properties deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-security main restricted universe multiverse deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal-security main restricted universe multiverse #Added by software-properties deb http://archive.cano
[03:39] <Utopy> qwertyqwerty: I think not
[03:40] <rajrajraj> Utopy: ^^
[03:40] <Utopy> roh, pastebin.com :) ( @ rajrajraj )
[03:40] <qwertyqwerty> Utopy: Can I restore the settings after the reinstall using the .img files of the partitions?
[03:40] <SaberX01> rajrajraj, you probably have a lock in:  /var/lib/apt/lists/lock and / or /var/cache/apt/archives/lock and it's not allowing you to update the apt lista properly.
[03:41] <rajrajraj> SaberX01: idk, so how do i unlock it.
[03:41] <Utopy> rajrajraj: I think I have had this problem, set with an option to apt-get
[03:41] <sideup66> hey room
[03:42] <WhatIsTheMatrix> maybe he should check his processes to make sure apt isn't already running somehow somewhere
[03:42] <sideup66> does anyone have an idea how to disable an internal usb sd card reader
[03:42] <rajrajraj> WhatIsTheMatrix: how
[03:42] <rajrajraj> Utopy: how
[03:42] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rajrajraj: sudo ps aux | grep apt
[03:43] <SaberX01> rajrajraj, can try rebootign or manuallt removing the locks .. then autoclean, clean and update.
[03:43] <Utopy> +1
[03:43] <WhatIsTheMatrix> if there's a lock file in /var/lib/apt/lists/lock and / or /var/cache/apt/archives/lock it might be good to check that file with the  'lsof' command
[03:43] <sors> sideup66, blacklist it
[03:44] <sideup66> reason Im looking into disabling it is because I keep getting messages in my shell stating: asking for cache data failed
[03:44] <rajrajraj> SaberX01: plz no rebooting
[03:44] <sideup66> sors: I know how to blacklist a device driver now but how do I do it to a logical device
[03:44] <sideup66> it shows as /dev/sdb in the system
[03:44] <rajrajraj> WhatIsTheMatrix: http://pastebin.com/YVp5b4Pf
[03:45] <sideup66> then the next message would be: assuming drive-cache write through
[03:45] <SaberX01> rajrajraj, then  you gotta fins the locks and delete them, and make sure the apts are not runnign, that's all I can suggest.
[03:45] <rajrajraj> WhatIsTheMatrix: there is too much result with lsof
[03:45] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rajrajraj: it lloks like you have apt process running
[03:45] <sors> sideup66, maybe remove from fstab
[03:45] <rajrajraj> WhatIsTheMatrix: is there a process manager to forcible stop it
[03:46] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rajrajraj: never mind the lsof command for right now... it looks like the issue is apt is currently running
[03:46] <sideup66> its not listed there as it isnt mounted
[03:46] <sideup66> im not even sure what device would even talk to it
[03:46] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rajrajraj: from the output of your 'ps aux' command
[03:46] <rajrajraj> k
[03:47] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rajrajraj: what happens if you do...?   sudo killall apt-get
[03:47] <rajrajraj> WhatIsTheMatrix: apt-get: no process found
[03:48] <rajrajraj> suck
[03:48] <mghola> anybody here who can help with partition recovery?
[03:48] <WhatIsTheMatrix> redo the 'ps aux | grep apt'  again, and see if apt-get is still listed
[03:48] <sors> sideup66,  this might help http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-disable-modprobe-loading-of-usb-storage-driver/
[03:49] <mghola> I have some questions about gpart and some other things.
[03:49] <sideup66> this is what i found from a search of the message in my shell
[03:49] <sideup66> http://askubuntu.com/questions/167343/what-is-a-asking-for-cache-data-failed-warning
[03:50] <boern> hey forks,  i have a question.. long time ago i auto mounted my harddisk.. but now i have removed it and when i boot he is still search for this hdd, telling me that its not ready.. then i have to skip .. is there a way to stop him searching for this harddisk?
[03:50] <somsip_> !fstab | boern
[03:51] <sors> sideup66,  there just lsmod and see if you can see the module
[03:51] <sideup66> sors: to note, i would want to be able to still connect say, a flashdrive if needbe for whatever reason, but just stop that message, the issue I have with the link I had provided was that the ethernet device in this laptop is also a realtek, which concerns me as that would be a bad day to break
[03:51] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rajrajraj: did you do....  sudo ps aux | grep apt   again?
[03:51] <mghola> I got hit with a virus in windows which may have been directed by a linux worm to my ip/mac address.
[03:52] <WhatIsTheMatrix> is apt-get still listed as a running process?
[03:52] <boern> oh thanks now i can remember :)
[03:53] <SaberX01> Linux worm, infecting a Windows machine, now that is funny.
[03:53] <mghola> I think it obtained my passwd via a phony failed keyring unlock on startup prompt.
[03:53] <mghola> No really
[03:53] <sideup66> im trying to find it
[03:53] <sideup66> just give me a moment
[03:54] <SaberX01> mghola, Im sorry but, you would have to work really hard to make that happen..
[03:54] <mghola> i dont know im confused I think it sent my ip/mac to a server so It could hit me when I booted windows
[03:55] <sideup66> sors: I found it
[03:56] <sideup66> should I post its output to a pastebin?
[03:56] <sors> sure
[03:56] <sideup66> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6643402/
[03:57] <sideup66> It keeps prompting like i said, about the asking for cache data message, and itll show every minute or so in the shell
[03:59] <mghola> Look I know its weird I'm just trying to figure it out.  It wiped my boot partition and my linux partition and it hit me from windows.
[04:00] <sors> sideup66,  i would disable the module and load it manualy when i need it
[04:01] <mghola> anyone an advanced user of gpart?
[04:01] <SaberX01> mghola, I suggest a very good Windows anti-virus program, not much one could be done from the Linux side other than whiping the whole thing and reinstalling the Linux partition / Bootloader
[04:03] <SaberX01> mghola, and you need to resolve the virus issue in Windows first, other wise, you probably right back in the soup again after install.
[04:03] <mghola> windows virus problem I think is solved
[04:04] <mghola> but you can't really be sure can you
[04:04] <SaberX01> mghola, not really, I'd wipe the whoel this if the bug wsa bad enough to jump from windows to Linux.
[04:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> if i got hit with a rootkit/virus... i think i'd wipe/delete all partitions on the drive and install from scratch
[04:04] <SaberX01> whole thing .. ..
[04:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ya
[04:05] <WhatIsTheMatrix> i wouldn't want any rootkit hanging around
[04:05] <mghola> i was hoping I could tell gpart to read the ntfs formatted freespace as ext4 to trick it
[04:05] <mghola> i agree but I want to recover a couple things first
[04:05] <SaberX01> mghola, that recover could be dangerous too, many sure yo run it through anti-virus as well.
[04:06] <mapps> where can i check for errors to see why my wireless card isnt connecting :(
[04:06] <SaberX01> *make sure ...
[04:06] <mghola> yes i plan to be very careful
[04:06] <mghola> i worry about clamav's definitions being complete though
[04:06] <SaberX01> mghola, I'd back up whatever files to a DVD or something and wipe the whole drive and start over.
[04:07] <mghola> im not sure what you mean, the files are hidden behind an ntfs wipe
[04:07] <mghola> thats why I need help with gpart
[04:08] <SaberX01> mghola, NTFS wipe?
[04:08] <mghola> reformat
[04:08] <SaberX01> gone then
[04:08] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lol
[04:08] <mghola> no there has to be a way
[04:08] <SaberX01> mghola, Insert LivCD and Install Ubuntu from scratch is all you really got left :-)
[04:08] <sideup66> ok im back
[04:09] <sideup66> i dont know if you got my message, my lan is taking its sweet time for whatever reason :/
[04:09] <sideup66> and I did that en=0 set, and it still did the message, so how do you disable the module sars?
[04:09] <SaberX01> mghola, that's all the help I can give Im affraid.
[04:10] <WhatIsTheMatrix> stick a fork in it
[04:10] <mghola> i think it just relabled the space, really.  if I could relable it as ext4 i think i would be in business with gpart
[04:10] <SaberX01> that steak is well-done :-)
[04:10] <mghola> but yeah obviously you are probably right
[04:10] <WhatIsTheMatrix> probably. i must say i can't be 100% certain tho... but it sure sounds like it's well-done
[04:11] <SaberX01> mghola, so lets see, virus, partitions removed, NTFS re-format, and there's still a chance ? all I can say is good luck. I dont know any tools that can do all that.
[04:11] <sideup66> my question is will disabling the module break all usb functionality for usb drives or will they still work?
[04:11] <mghola> I just want to see if anyone knows gpart well
[04:12] <SaberX01> I do
[04:12] <SaberX01> and I dont know of a way to "Spoof" EXT4 into thinking it's NTFS ... that would be disastrous in itself.
[04:12] <WhatIsTheMatrix> no doubt
[04:13] <mghola> ok well sorry for pressing the issue
[04:13] <mghola> im just hating my computer
[04:13] <sideup66> I would rather not disable all usb if needbe because I also have a wifiusb dongle on this machine that is used
[04:14] <SaberX01> mghola, maybe your better off in the windows IRC, they used to dealing with viruses that wipe out system.
[04:14] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cfdisk is pretty good and powerful. but it might be even more stringent than gparted
[04:16] <Morphine> !Help
[04:16] <Morphine> !patience
[04:17] <SaberX01> !ask
[04:17] <WhatIsTheMatrix> overloaded him? lol
[04:17] <WhatIsTheMatrix> poor guy
[04:17] <SaberX01> I think so :-)
[04:17] <WhatIsTheMatrix> lol
[04:22] <sideup66> hm
[04:22] <Richhh> on an old 1GB RAM 3GHz Celeron, need a super lightweight offline svg editor
[04:23] <Morphine> :~
[04:24] <Richhh> inkscape takes too long to load, what are alternatives?
[04:25] <Richhh> the alternatives*
[04:27] <sideup66> ok just disabled it, now to see if i get the message again after a reboot
[04:28] <Raliegh> Hello there, noob here. I'm attempting to create a restart script of a program (Starbound for specifics). I am attempting to run the server in a screen terminal for simplicity (simple killall screen, screen <startup script>) but of course I get the no terminal found. Would anyone be able to help me?
[04:29] <Raliegh> Another benefit of screen for this program is I can hop in and monitor whenever I want, so using screen is kind of necessary for me.
[04:29] <WhatIsTheMatrix> is this server still on?
[04:29] <Raliegh> Holy fuck...
[04:29] <somsip_> !language | Raliegh
[04:29] <Raliegh> Woops, sorry.
[04:29] <cihhan> has anyone tried installing Ubuntu mini? I have burnt a CD and when I boot from it, all I get is grub. Any suggestions?
[04:30] <qin> Richhh: svg-edit with ff?
[04:30] <Darkangel> u do have a poiunt though was thankin the same
[04:30] <Raliegh> Anyways, due to this spam... Should I re-ask my question?
[04:30] <Darkangel> sure
[04:30] <Raliegh> Hello there, noob here. I'm attempting to create a restart script of a program (Starbound for specifics). I am attempting to run the server in a screen terminal for simplicity (simple killall screen, screen <startup script>) but of course I get the no terminal found. Would anyone be able to help me?
[04:31] <Raliegh> Another benefit of screen for this program is I can hop in and monitor whenever I want, so using screen is kind of necessary for me.
[04:31] <somsip_> Raliegh: this seems pretty thorough. Is there anything in here that might help? If not, maybe this forum is the better place to ask? http://is.gd/C4wR5N
[04:31] <Darkangel> press alt+F3 on server
[04:31] <Raliegh> somsip_ Nono, I'm well, well WELL beyond all of that setup stuff.
[04:32] <Raliegh> somsip_ disregard Starbound entirely, that forum would have no idea (and is offline half the time anyways)
[04:32] <Raliegh> Let us just say I need to run a screen application from an SSH script, how would I go about doing this?
[04:34] <somsip_> Raliegh: ssh to server, run screen, run application. Something like 'ssh -e 'screen -L application' but check the screen manpage properly
[04:34] <qin> Raliegh: or use tmux
[04:34] <Raliegh> http://pastebin.com/Y5pcxN9q That is my restart script. It is run whenever a button is clicked on a web-page using node.js. However, it will not start because it says "Screen must be connected to a terminal" I need to bypass this.
[04:34] <SaberX01> A program dtach is a good screen app too.
[04:34] <SaberX01> *called
[04:35] <CarlFK> Raliegh: I think you are adding thing (like screen) that are causing you problems you don't need to solve
[04:35] <somsip_> Raliegh: yes. You need to attach to the existing screen session, or create a new one (though the latter would be a bit daft unless screen has crashed'
[04:35] <Raliegh> CarlFK: The reason I want to run it in a screen terminal is so, if something happens, I can SSH in and attach to that session and debug.
[04:36] <Raliegh> somsip_ There won't be any existing. That last line should create a new screen and run said program.
[04:36] <Darkangel> Just wondering does Ubuntu developers like Testers? or like helpin out test Ubuntu 14.04 b4 it comes out
[04:37] <Raliegh> Like, if I were in a terminal and typed that line it'd work fine, and closing it of course keeps the program running. I can SSH back in and attach whenever. I'm attempting to do that via a bash script without using a terminal at all. I hope I'm making sense.
[04:37] <somsip_> Raliegh: and you want it create a new screen session on each restart and leave the old screen session doing nothing. Ok... Then check the screen manpage for the correct syntax. -L looked about right to me but I'm more of a tmux user
[04:38] <CarlFK> Raliegh: there are other ways of debugging ... like just redirect stdio to a file .. but I am not sure what your process/app/whatever is, so hard to really say what is best
[04:38] <somsip_> R
[04:38] <Raliegh> somsip_ The old screen session won't exist, hence killall screen
[04:38] <somsip_> Raliegh: ah - just saw that.
[04:38] <Richhh> qin: im looking for a super light non-web-based svg editor
[04:39] <CarlFK> RichiH: inkscape
[04:40] <Richhh> CarlFK: inkscape takes too long to load
[04:40] <Raliegh> somsip_ It doesn't seem like -L would do it, that just speaks about logging. Would Tmux be able to do all of this stuff? I'm more than willing to ditch screen as long as I can get this working.
[04:40] <CarlFK> Richhh: vim :)
[04:40] <Richhh> good, but i should mention i wanted a gui editor
[04:40] <Richhh> maybe vim with a browser though
[04:41] <ramborocks> whats a good alternative file systems for a external i will be using on linux / windows?
[04:41] <ramborocks> i have ntfs
[04:42] <Richhh> also mspaint is not opening in wine
[04:42] <qin> Richhh: http://www.junauza.com/2009/09/free-vector-graphics-editors.html, but from my expirience graphic station differ quite well from your setup, so you should adjust expectation or get acient version or let's say 10 CD openSuse
[04:42] <Richhh> seems a simple light offline editor is missing
[04:43] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !rgbpaint
[04:43] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !info rgbpaint
[04:43] <Richhh> will try now
[04:43] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rgr
[04:44] <Richhh> WhatIsTheMatrix: nice but i cant draw a box?
[04:45] <qin> Raliegh: /j #tmux
[04:45] <somsip_> Raliegh: so it is. Maybe -d is what you want.
[04:45] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Richhh: i think there are some others. i tried, i thin it was gnupaint once.. but bleh
[04:45] <Raliegh> qin Before I go joining a channel bugging them about something I may or may not know works for my needs, I'll ask the person suggesting it, thanks.
[04:45] <Richhh> considering writing one in Java
[04:45] <Raliegh> somsip_ Thanks, I'm trying that one out.
[04:45] <Richhh> an mspaint clone that can save as .svg
[04:45] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !info mtpaint
[04:46] <Richhh> trying
[04:46] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rgr
[04:46] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !info gnome-paint
[04:46] <Raliegh> Perfect somsip_ That was it. Thanks a lot for your time.
[04:46] <WhatIsTheMatrix> this next one might be good...
[04:47] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !info kolourpaint4
[04:47] <Richhh> mtpaint is not bad, some little ui bothers
[04:47] <Richhh> i liked how u can simply drag out a box in paint
[04:48] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Richhh: rgr. might try that kolourpaint4
[04:48] <Richhh> k
[04:48] <Richhh> trying
[04:48] <WhatIsTheMatrix> kde stuff is usually pretty good.
[04:49] <Richhh> long install
[04:50] <WhatIsTheMatrix> yeah... needs kde libs and such i'm sure
[04:50] <Richhh> <3 apt-get anyway
[04:50] <WhatIsTheMatrix> i'm running it now myself
[04:50] <Richhh> i aliased sudo apt-get install to 'get'
[04:50] <WhatIsTheMatrix> looks a lot like mspaint
[04:51] <Richhh> so lovely
[04:51] <WhatIsTheMatrix> yeah.. i love apt-get and especially, aptitude
[04:51] <WhatIsTheMatrix> synaptic is very nice for a gui package manager
[04:51] <SaberX01> gnome-paint is light,  but don't see svg in the support list.
[04:51] <ramborocks> whats a good file format for window/ linux
[04:51] <ramborocks> i want it to be readable on both partitions
[04:52] <Richhh> FAT?
[04:52] <Raliegh> The only thing that sucks about apt-get is the fact that packages very quickly fall out of date.
[04:52] <Raliegh> :/
[04:52] <ramborocks> will fat support 1terr drives
[04:52] <ramborocks> i thought they didnt support files over 4 gigs
[04:52] <SaberX01> ramborocks, for windows = NTFS  .. Linux = EXT4
[04:52] <ramborocks> hmm
[04:52] <rypervenche> You could do vfat
[04:52] <Raliegh> So, does anybody here have any experience with supervisor? I need a node.js script to run on system start, and to restart upon crash.
[04:52] <WhatIsTheMatrix> SaberX01: i think he wants to be able to read Ext4 from Windows
[04:53] <ramborocks> yes exactly whatisthematrix
[04:53] <Richhh> is that possible?
[04:53] <WhatIsTheMatrix> they used to have an IFS for that for Ext3
[04:53] <WhatIsTheMatrix> don't know if there's one for Ext4
[04:53] <ramborocks> im planning on going all linux. but i want my external drive to be readable on my wifes laptop
[04:53] <CarlFK> ramborocks: depends on what your requirements are.  there are ext drivers for windows, and ntfs for linux.
[04:54] <SaberX01> in Wndows use an app like Ext2Read  or something ..
[04:54] <ramborocks> mmm k
[04:54] <Richhh> kolourpaint4 is still installing
[04:54] <SaberX01> can use Samba or SSHFS also
[04:54] <ramborocks> so basicly use what you got theres always a way?
[04:54] <SaberX01> like CarlFK said,  lots of options
[04:55] <qin> ramborocks: why your external hd have to be ext4?
[04:55] <ramborocks> it dont have to be.
[04:55] <ramborocks> i was planning on formating it
[04:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Richhh: rgr, if your looking for mspaint it's probably close to it
[04:55] <Richhh> then use a filesystem both can read
[04:55] <Treezus> Ubuntu ballets
[04:55] <Treezus> ballers
[04:55] <ramborocks> figuring if ntfs was the way to go or -  just go ext4
[04:55] <CarlFK> ramborocks:  using samba to share it over the network will be the most solid - anything else is going to rely on windows not doing something weird.
[04:56] <qin> ramborocks: fat is good as it gets if you have compatibility issues
[04:56] <ramborocks> i gotta clear off what i want left before i format yet. so just prethinking
[04:56] <Treezus> I want to run Ubuntu on my lg mytouch. can y'all do that
[04:56] <Richhh> WhatIsTheMatrix: so far so good :)
[04:56] <ramborocks> just plane fat? not fat32 right
[04:57] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ramborocks: this came up on a search --> http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[04:57] <qin> ramborocks: well fat32, for ease of mind you can foemat it with M$ and Linux will read it
[04:57] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ramborocks: says, it allows BOTH reading and writing of Ext2, Ext3, and Ext4 from Windows
[04:57] <Richhh> FAT32 works
[04:58] <Richhh> dont know about rest
[04:58] <Richhh> my pendrive is formatted to fat32, reading fine in ubuntu
[04:58] <Richhh> (and windows, obv)
[04:58] <Richhh> and writing fine
[04:58] <qin> ramborocks: well ext would benefit from ablity to conceal certin files
[04:59] <Richhh> ah yes i formatted it in windows
[04:59] <Richhh> guess you could in linux though?
[04:59] <mojtaba> Hi, I have an admin account and a normal account on my laptop. buy I can not log in with admin in GUI. Does anybody know what should I do?
[05:00] <mojtaba> although I can login via terminal with admin
[05:00] <mojtaba> I am now logged in as a normal user in GUI.
[05:01] <mojtaba> when I type password in GUI for admin, it just shows a message very quickly and then returns to the login screen.
[05:01] <vector_> Is there a program like Xampp that's smaller?
[05:01] <mojtaba> Please help
[05:01] <IgniteMeow> hi
[05:01] <WhatIsTheMatrix> mojtaba: when you want to use gui apps in X, precede the the command with "gksudo"
[05:01] <IgniteMeow> I have an Acer Aspire Netbook laptop and some how windows got deleted and stuffz
[05:01] <Richhh> vector_: consider node.js
[05:01] <WhatIsTheMatrix> mojtaba: like so....  gksudo lshw
[05:01] <mojtaba> WhatIsTheMatrix: I can not login with admin in GUI
[05:01] <vector_> I got it
[05:01] <IgniteMeow> so I uhh tried installing ubuntu but the laptop is fricked up like hell
[05:02] <WhatIsTheMatrix> mojtaba: you don't login to X-Windows as root/admin
[05:02] <Richhh> i dont know about apache
[05:02] <mojtaba> WhatIsTheMatrix: no it does not login me with admin in x-windows, I just can login in terminal with admin.
[05:02] <WhatIsTheMatrix> mojtaba: just precede any command you want on a command line with 'gksudo'
[05:03] <mojtaba> WhatIsTheMatrix: by the way I am now logged in with normal user in x-window
[05:03] <Richhh> WhatIsTheMatrix: kolourpaint was good, fast loading, mspaintlike so far
[05:03] <vector_> I want apache, php ,and mysql in 1
[05:03] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Richhh: :-)
[05:03] <mojtaba> WhatIsTheMatrix: how can I login as admin?
[05:03] <Richhh> WhatIsTheMatrix: pity it cant save as .svg
[05:03] <vector_> is there only xampp
[05:03] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Richhh: ya, no doubt
[05:04] <mojtaba> WhatIsTheMatrix: Gtk warning ** can not open display
[05:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> mojtaba: you shouldn't run X-Windows as admin/root user
[05:04] <IgniteMeow> if everything got wiped on my laptop
[05:04] <IgniteMeow> like nothing was on it
[05:04] <somsip_> vector_: what it is that you actually want to do?
[05:04] <IgniteMeow> if I install ubuntu on it
[05:04] <qin> mojtaba: what is your admin name?
[05:04] <IgniteMeow> would it work fine?
[05:04] <mojtaba> qin: it is mojtaba
[05:05] <WhatIsTheMatrix> mojtaba: not sure what's wrong there. you were regular user when you tried... gksudo <command>  ?
[05:05] <mojtaba> WhatIsTheMatrix: I just logged in command line and typed gksudo firefox
[05:05] <vector_> a hour download seems like alot
[05:05] <mojtaba> WhatIsTheMatrix: no, admin. My laptop just shutdown before due to fan problem, and I guess it is related to it
[05:05] <Richhh> WhatIsTheMatrix: think its worth working on an mspaint-clone that does svg?
[05:05] <vector_> I just want mysql, php, apache in one
[05:06] <somsip_> vector_: you want apache, php and mysql? Just install them separately. No big deal
[05:06] <Richhh> would let people quickly dynamically and privately jot ideas
[05:07] <mojtaba> WhatIsTheMatrix: qin?
[05:07] <WhatIsTheMatrix> mojtaba: do not try the 'gksudo' when you are logged in as admin... do not run gui apps from command line when logged in as admin. be regualr user, then --> gksudo <command>
[05:07] <Jazayri> Linux is fantastic, whitout him i'll sleep 24h/24 !
[05:07] <Richhh> eh spose its not important, back to work
[05:07] <qin> mojtaba: would you try to login via Alt-Ctrl-F7 as mojtaba, and after fail post revelant line of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and auth.log via paste.ubuntu.com
[05:07] <Richhh> thanks again WhatIsTheMatrix
[05:07] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Richhh: yes, i think it would be worth working on
[05:07] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Richhh: you're welcome! enjoy
[05:07] <Richhh> :)
[05:08] <WhatIsTheMatrix> i forget... what is the command to show what display you're on again?
[05:08] <qin> echo $DISPLAY; ?
[05:09] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ahhh, thank you qin!
[05:09] <WhatIsTheMatrix> couldn't remember
[05:11] <nase> How can i use my netsetter for network connection?? it shows some error.
[05:12] <WhatIsTheMatrix> nase: doubt i can help with that, but you should post the error. if it's multiple lines then put it up on a pastebin
[05:13] <WhatIsTheMatrix> !pastebin
[05:15] <Richhh> WhatIsTheMatrix:  btw kolourpaint can _open_ but not save/export svg
[05:15] <sideup66> ok does anyone know what is going on here
[05:16] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Richhh: yes, i saw you mention that earlier. i'm not surprised it doesn't save/export to that format.
[05:16] <IgniteMeow> how the heck do I put ubuntu tv onto my tv lol
[05:16] <Richhh> im surprised it opens it though
[05:16] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Richhh: even though i do not know much about graphics stuff. i do know that svg is relatively new
[05:17] <sideup66> i have tried to remove my usb card reader to stop an annoying message in my shell stating that asking for cache_data failed
[05:17] <sideup66> the next message would say assuming drive cache:write through
[05:18] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Richhh: if you know how to program and all, you could join the kde team and work on  kolourpaint4 i'm sure... or just download the source and work on it yourself
[05:18] <Richhh> yeah im thinking about it
[05:19] <WhatIsTheMatrix> i hear ya... you know how to program?
[05:19] <Richhh> reasonably
[05:19] <WhatIsTheMatrix> kde uses c++ heavily from my understanding
[05:20] <Richhh> i only did a little openGL game in C++
[05:20] <WhatIsTheMatrix> cool
[05:20] <Richhh> i was thinking of making an editor using JOGL
[05:20] <WhatIsTheMatrix> i can figure out what that stands for just looking at it
[05:21] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Java OpenGL
[05:21] <Richhh> yep
[05:21] <Richhh> i made a JOGL app before for a uni assignment
[05:21] <WhatIsTheMatrix> nice
[05:21] <Richhh> and tuxpaint's fun sounds are inspiring
[05:22] <WhatIsTheMatrix> haha... tuxpaint has sound to it eh?
[05:22] <Richhh> yeah midi and cartoony sounds
[05:22] <Richhh> made me laugh and smile
[05:22] <WhatIsTheMatrix> sweet. i can see how that would  be inspiring
[05:23] <speckle> ooh, we're talking about making paint programs? :) I've started trying to make one using Python
[05:23] <Richhh> imagine combining fun (optional) sounds, easy mspaintclone ui, crossplatform hw accel rendering in JOGL, svg open/save support
[05:23] <WhatIsTheMatrix> man i started to leanr a little programming not long ago. but then got real busy with other stuff. need to get back to it
[05:24] <WhatIsTheMatrix> learn*
[05:24] <Richhh> YT tutorials are the best start imo
[05:24] <Richhh> youtube.com/thenewboston
[05:24] <Richhh> from there, trial and error and googling
[05:26] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Richhh: ahh, okay. i might check that out. i have some old video tutorials is how i was starting out. done in old 'quicktime'. play them with 'winff'
[05:26] <Richhh> lol
[05:26] <Richhh> good old days
[05:26] <WhatIsTheMatrix> from the Virtual Learning Company
[05:26] <WhatIsTheMatrix> for 'C'
[05:27] <Richhh> i like bucky @ youtube.com/thenewboston because he's relaxing, like your mate is guiding you through it and showing you cool stuff
[05:27] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Mark Virtue is the teacher in the videos
[05:27] <mghola> +1 at Richh
[05:27] <Richhh> looks interesting
[05:28] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Mark Virtue is pretty relaxed id say as well
[05:28] <Richhh> he's also genuine, not annoyingly fake
[05:28] <WhatIsTheMatrix> does buck teach 'C'? i'm guessing, no
[05:28] <Richhh> and has a sense of umour
[05:29] <Richhh> +h
[05:29] <WhatIsTheMatrix> just a guess tho
[05:29] <Richhh> a little
[05:29] <WhatIsTheMatrix> okay
[05:29] <speckle> If you want to make a paint program, one thing to keep in mind is that GUIs are their own beast to tackle.  :P
[05:29] <Richhh> but the c tuts are not complete i think
[05:29] <WhatIsTheMatrix> speckle: i'll bet they are
[05:29] <WhatIsTheMatrix> i hear Qt5 is pretty nice tho
[05:30] <Richhh> brb drink
[05:30] <speckle> Qt means dealing with C++ though
[05:30] <WhatIsTheMatrix> yep, roger that
[05:30] <speckle> I guess you could go with PyQt though
[05:30] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ya
[05:30] <speckle> that will let you use Qt through the Python language
[05:30] <haha> :)
[05:30] <WhatIsTheMatrix> Perl! haha
[05:31] <speckle> Unfortunately, there's nothing like the VB6 form designer for FOSS that I know of. I used to toy around with that back when I was on Windows, and it was really easy.
[05:31] <WhatIsTheMatrix> rgr
[05:32] <IgniteMeow> can anyone help me
[05:32] <IgniteMeow> my acer aspire laptop os got wiped somehow
[05:32] <IgniteMeow> lke everything did...so I installed ubuntu on it but now when I try launching it
[05:32] <IgniteMeow> it says
[05:32] <IgniteMeow> Cant read file...you must run in kernal
[05:33] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: strange... new one on me
[05:35] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: have you tried the 'Advanced Options' when you're at the grub boot loader screen and then select "safe mode"?
[05:35] <IgniteMeow> huh what?
[05:35] <IgniteMeow> there is a list of 4 stuffz
[05:35] <IgniteMeow> "Ubuntu with Linux 3.8.0-29-generic
[05:35] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: do you get a grub boot loader screen? or does it just go straight to trying to load up the OS?
[05:36] <IgniteMeow> Ubuntu, with Linus 3.8.0-29--generic(recovery mode), Memory test *nentest86+)
[05:36] <IgniteMeow> :p
[05:36] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: there should be another option below that
[05:36] <WhatIsTheMatrix> yeah
[05:36] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: the recovery mode
[05:36] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: you can try it anyway
[05:37] <WhatIsTheMatrix> see what happens
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> someone knows howto color the boot text (quiet splash off) in green?
[05:37] <IgniteMeow> it says Loading Linux 3.8.0-29-generic...
[05:38] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: okay...
[05:38] <IgniteMeow> oh now it says error: couldn't read file...Loading file and then
[05:38] <somsip_> lotuspsychje: old thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=50054
[05:38] <IgniteMeow> it said other stuff and went back to the grub booter
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> somsip_: tnx lemme try
[05:38] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: you might want to try reinstalling. but wipe the disk clean of all partitions before actually installing
[05:39] <somsip_> lotuspsychje: more recent threads have no solutions though so YMMV
[05:40] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: i can walk you through doing that if you need
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> somsip_: will that color all text or only yhe OK in green?
[05:41] <somsip_> lotuspsychje: that example just colors the OK, but just wrap the whole like in the ANSI color tags to color it all I guess
[05:41] <somsip_> *line
[05:41] <IgniteMeow> I did wahtisthematrix
[05:41] <IgniteMeow> what*
[05:41] <IgniteMeow> like
[05:42] <IgniteMeow> 10 times ^^
[05:42] <FloodBot1> IgniteMeow: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:42] <IgniteMeow> sorry D:
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> somsip_: ok ill try, im tweaking my new ssd ubuntu netbook :p
[05:42] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: you sure you wiped the hard disk of all "partitions" before you installed?
[05:42] <somsip_> lotuspsychje: that's some fine tweaking ;-)
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> somsip_: boots up very fast already on quiet splash off
[05:43] <IgniteMeow> yes
[05:43] <IgniteMeow> it was something in the installation
[05:43] <IgniteMeow> clicked it then clicked continue and such
[05:44] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: i don't know then, sorry. perhaps someone else might have an idea. keep posting your problem and error occasionally
[05:45] <IgniteMeow> is it because everything on my laptop got wiped
[05:45] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: i think you should try again. start over. i would like to make sure you wiped all partitions. but you don't have to do that. i'm just saying i'd like to go through the process with you to make sure
[05:45] <IgniteMeow> literally...its like you got a new PC with no os
[05:46] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: well that error is sure a strange one to me. but then, i'm not shocked. i've seen a lot of strange ones
[05:46] <IgniteMeow> okay plugging my usb back in
[05:47] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow:  i think you should boot up the live install cd. then use a utility to wipe the partitions before even starting/using the installation program
[05:47] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: okay, sounds good. you don't have to do this if you don't want to. i was just stating what i want to do. ;-)
[05:48] <IgniteMeow> its fine so I am at the install screen
[05:48] <IgniteMeow> I click Install Ubuntu..right
[05:48] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: when you've booted the usb stick, click on 'Try Ubuntu first'...
[05:49] <WhatIsTheMatrix> err, select i should say
[05:49] <sandhu> hi i was downloading iso of 12.04 but i got struck after 48% downloading
[05:49] <sandhu> i m not able to download 12.04 iso after 48%downloading
[05:50] <IgniteMeow> okay now wat, whatisthematrix
[05:50] <akunin> Guys, coming from a SuSE world, I have quite a few questions... First of, how do I find the package a specific file belongs to? E.g. with rpm I can do rpm -qf <file>. Is there an equivalent on ubuntu?
[05:50] <IgniteMeow> ooo look its ubuntu...so cul
[05:50] <IgniteMeow> :p
[05:50] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: cool :-)
[05:50] <sandhu> pl help
[05:50] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: okay, now you know how to pull up a gnome-terminal?
[05:50] <sandhu> hi i was downloading iso of 12.04 but i got struck after 48% downloading
[05:51] <IgniteMeow> how do I do that, matrix
[05:52] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: on the left menu bar, click on the most upper-left icon, then type in...  gnome-terminal
[05:52] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: then click on the terminal icon that should come up
[05:54] <IgniteMeow> now what/
[05:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: ok, so now you have a command prompt terminal?
[05:55] <IgniteMeow> mhm
[05:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> okay
[05:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> type in the command  -->  gparted
[05:55] <WhatIsTheMatrix> and press Enter, of course
[05:56] <somsip_> WhatIsTheMatrix: sudo gparted??
[05:56] <WhatIsTheMatrix> he/she is using a live install usb stick
[05:56] <IgniteMeow> root privileges are required for running gparted
[05:56] <IgniteMeow> :p
[05:56] <kruxoman> gparted will ask
[05:57] <WhatIsTheMatrix> do you need 'sudo' when using live install?
[05:57] <WhatIsTheMatrix> i forget
[05:57] <IgniteMeow> I tried it with sudo
[05:57] <IgniteMeow> and then it opened something:p
[05:57] <WhatIsTheMatrix> okay, good
[05:57] <Raliegh> Hello, would anyone be able to offer me direct one-on-one assistance with getting a node.js and bash script to auto-restart upon failure, and auto-start on server start? I can pay, it's very high priority for me right now. I've tried both supervisor and upstart but neither work.
[05:58] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: at the very top it should show a bar-like graph of all your partitions
[05:58] <IgniteMeow> okay
[05:58] <IgniteMeow> I see it :p
[05:59] <WhatIsTheMatrix> i'd start by clicking on the one at the far right, then delete it. do the same for the rest of them, from right to left
[06:00] <WhatIsTheMatrix> once you have selected to delete all of them, you'll need to click 'Apply'
[06:00] <IgniteMeow> it says 1 operation pending down
[06:00] <marz> I'm currently researching about the boot sequence of Linux. Does the BIOS read the MBR and load the bootloader, or does the MBR has a bootloader itself that the BIOS loads?
[06:00] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: did you only have one partition?
[06:01] <kruxoman> marz: From Sweden?
[06:01] <IgniteMeow> ihhh
[06:01] <IgniteMeow> uhh
[06:01] <IgniteMeow> I have 3 partitions
[06:01] <marz> kruxoman: Sorry but no.
[06:01] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ahhh! i thought you  would have more than one  partition since you were having a strange issue/error
[06:02] <IgniteMeow> oh shit
[06:02] <IgniteMeow> I deleted it already lol
[06:02] <WhatIsTheMatrix> it's ok
[06:02] <WhatIsTheMatrix> are they all deleted yet?
[06:02] <IgniteMeow> want me to delete all of them?
[06:02] <WhatIsTheMatrix> yes...
[06:02] <Raliegh> Hello, would anyone be able to offer me direct one-on-one assistance with getting a node.js and bash script to auto-restart upon failure, and auto-start on server start? I can pay, it's very high priority for me right now. I've tried both supervisor and upstart but neither work.
[06:03] <IgniteMeow> okay done
[06:03] <somsip_> Raliegh: may I suggest a freelancer site like oDesk?
[06:03] <jeffrey_f> marz: The BIOS is very low level instructions to the CPU to process startup tests then to load from the specified media as specified in your BIOS Settings.  The BIOS still has low level control over hardware.
[06:04] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: okay. i don't think you need to reboot. you used to have to when re-partitioning. if you want you can reboot and then do the install. or you can click on the Install Ubuntu icon on the left menu bar on the desktop
[06:05] <IgniteMeow> uhh whats with alll these disconnects o.o
[06:05] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: don't know. might be having like a 'netsplit' on the irc servers here
[06:07] <IgniteMeow> wait a minute...I hav
[06:07] <IgniteMeow> have 2 partions left..../dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5
[06:07] <IgniteMeow> it wont let me delete dem D:
[06:07] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ohhh?!?
[06:07] <WhatIsTheMatrix> quit gparted then for the moment
[06:07] <IgniteMeow> k
[06:08] <WhatIsTheMatrix> in the terminal, try --> sudo cfdisk
[06:08] <WhatIsTheMatrix> does the install usb have 'cfdisk'?
[06:08] <IgniteMeow> okay I did that
[06:08] <IgniteMeow> there is like this...weird stuff
[06:08] <WhatIsTheMatrix> okay... it has cfdisk?
[06:08] <IgniteMeow> mhm
[06:08] <WhatIsTheMatrix> is cfdisk running?
[06:09] <IgniteMeow> mhm
[06:09] <WhatIsTheMatrix> okay...
[06:09] <WhatIsTheMatrix> hang on.. been a long time since i used cfdisk
[06:10] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: the actual command should have been   sudo cfdisk /dev/sda   ..but it might be displaying your hard drive partitions anyway even though we didn't put in the  /dev/sda
[06:10] <IgniteMeow> yea it is
[06:11] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: okay.. good
[06:11] <IgniteMeow> should I delete both of themwith dat
[06:11] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: yes
[06:11] <IgniteMeow> select it then switch to delete and enter?
[06:11] <IgniteMeow> k
[06:11] <IgniteMeow> worked! :D
[06:11] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: yep.. use the  arrow keys to  navigate
[06:11] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: awesome!
[06:11] <IgniteMeow> now do I run install?
[06:12] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: yes
[06:13] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: looks like you  were having problems that gparted couldn't handle for some reason, but cfdisk did
[06:13] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: you should be okay after installing now, i'll bet
[06:13] <IgniteMeow> okay. so "The computer currently has Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS on it. What would you like to do
[06:14] <IgniteMeow> should I clck Erase Ubuntu.12.04.3 LTS and reinstall
[06:14] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: maybe you should reboot first
[06:14] <IgniteMeow> okay closing laptop then :p
[06:15] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: okay... that might still be grub in the MBR.. might still say the same thing even after rebooting
[06:15] <sideup66> hello room
[06:16] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: if it does, then  yes, i'd say yes, erase and reinstall
[06:16] <IgniteMeow> okay at da ubuntu loading screen. waiting patiently ;p
[06:16] <WhatIsTheMatrix> okay... let it load
[06:16] <sideup66> im back with another wireless issue :/ again, it seems that my wireless card now works just fine, however, I cannot seem to get it to recconnect to the network if say, the router goes out without unplugging/replugging the wireless adapter
[06:17] <sideup66> it will try to connect but be unsuccessful
[06:18] <IgniteMeow> ehh the installer crashed
[06:18] <IgniteMeow> I'll work on this tomorrow
[06:18] <IgniteMeow> bye all D:
[06:18] <IgniteMeow> sleepy time.
[06:19] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: okay
[06:19] <IgniteMeow> thanks whatisthematrix for the help
[06:19] <IgniteMeow> we will continue this tomorrow :p
[06:19] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: you're welcome
[06:20] <WhatIsTheMatrix> IgniteMeow: sure. you might let the thing load a bit before you select to go into Ubuntu or the installer. but anyway, i bet you'll be able to boot now if you can install
[06:20] <ThomasB> What is the channel for 14.04 discussion?
[06:20] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ThomasB: ubuntu+1
[06:20] <sideup66> also in general, it seems that this device is kinda finicky on the network
[06:21] <ThomasB> WhatIsTheMatrix, Thank you!
[06:21] <WhatIsTheMatrix> ThomasB: you're wlcome
[06:21] <sideup66> somtimes itll just drop off for no good reason, also if it loses connection as stated, it wont come back unless the dongle is physically removed from the usb port and reinserted in which wireless function immediately restores and works as advertised
[06:22] <jeffrey_f> sideup66: does that dongle heat up at any point or is it temperature pretty much stable?
[06:23] <sideup66> in the days the machine ran win7, it would get *ever so slightly* warm, but nowhere near a cause for an alarm, here it actually stays cool to be honest
[06:23] <sideup66> and in windows 7 it never had a problem (mom used it, non tech savvy user and I wouldve heard it if otherwise)
[06:23] <WhatIsTheMatrix> old usb wireless adapter?
[06:24] <daniel_ra> hello world!
[06:24] <nearst> echo
[06:25] <daniel_ra> echo 'hello world!';
[06:25] <sideup66> did you suspect faulty adapter?
[06:25] <nearst> haha
[06:25] <WhatIsTheMatrix> not really
[06:25] <jeffrey_f> sideup66: how old is the adapter?  Have you tried a different one?
[06:26] <sideup66> only one I have, and its fairly new, these adapters are pretty good honestly, and as stated, I believe the issue is software as it ran for a good while under windows 7, before this machine ran linux without incident or connection issue
[06:26] <nearst> do lspci for make it specific ?
[06:26] <WhatIsTheMatrix> i got a cheap one not long ago and it seemed to work pretty good. but i still wanted a better and got an Asus N-66. now i get three out of five signal strength bars, instead of just one
[06:27] <daniel_ra> spanish?..
[06:27] <WhatIsTheMatrix> errr, three out of four bars i mean
[06:28] <jeffrey_f> sideup66: Run  --> lspci |grep net
[06:28] <sideup66> my signal is just fine, where this thing will be located is near the router anyway (netgear r6300, DA BEAST :D) so plenty of signal coming
[06:28] <sideup66> sure thing
[06:28] <WhatIsTheMatrix> nice... i'm a ways from the router here
[06:29] <jeffrey_f> sideup66:  Are you too close?  How far away?
[06:29] <sideup66> jeffrey_f: all that did was list my internal adapters, this is on a usb dongle
[06:30] <WhatIsTheMatrix> can you disable the internal adapters in your bios?
[06:30] <sideup66> matrix: yeah this was about 15 bucks approx, for some reason the netgear would throw hissyfits when the internal one was on, throttled down the entire 2.4 band to 150...yuck, so we bought this guy to get around it
[06:31] <sideup66> the wireless, I had disabled earlier today per the instruction of another user via modprobe restricted to stop a conflict between it and the usb device, now the usb device is seen and the other one is just a ethernet adapter
[06:31] <jeffrey_f> sideup66: I'm just wondering if you are physically too close to the router or if you have other transmitting devices (cell, cordless, etc) near to your wireless dongle....Signal splash as well as other devices yelling louder than the dongle could cause disconnects
[06:32] <sideup66> (normally cranked out 300-450)
[06:33] <sideup66> jeffrey_f: its a fair point, i mean i was simulating a disconnect I mean, the router very rarely goes down but in the freak event it does, since this will be mining cryptocurrency, I wont be around to get it going if the link died for whatever reason, it just wont reconnect on its own
[06:33] <sideup66> the router is screaming and to be honest, there is no landline in my house and my phone is off
[06:35] <sideup66> also only one floor away from the router, it never drops when its on, i had it running in shell for an entire night last night and no issues
[06:36] <WhatIsTheMatrix> i don't know much about wireless here really. and really rusty on networking too. i can't be of much help
[06:36] <Raliegh> Would anyone here be able to explain like you would a child on how to make a proper cron job to backup a specific folder? The documentation is so clutter with the information it's ridiculously hard to keep track of.
[06:37] <nearst> i dont see the point with ubuntu related
[06:37] <sideup66> ok, thanks for trying :) I do appreciate it
[06:37] <WhatIsTheMatrix> sure.. i was just curious about stuff really
[06:37] <WhatIsTheMatrix> couldn't help
[06:37] <sideup66> im thinking maybe I can write a clever cronjob to check the lan every minute or so and if its down, just issue an automatic reboot, not a fix but itll work around