[12:00] <Rhine> How do i past somethign in to the bin folder it says i dont have persmission but im logged in as su
[12:01] <Drac|Mac> Hmm..
[12:01] <Drac|Mac> They stopped being down. Nevermin.
[12:01] <Drac|Mac> Nevermind*
[12:01] <Sanne> Drac|Mac, the channel for the forums is #ubuntuforums, you might get better answers there next time.
[12:01] <liran_> seems like rythmbox is gnome default music player, how do i change that?
[12:02] <Drac|Mac> Sanne, I didn't know that.  I tried to install Ubuntu on it, but the installer CD, while booting, says it fails to decompress about a hundred things, then has a kernel panic. Any ideas?
[12:03] <jkarr> does anyone know how to change the terminal capabilities??
[12:03] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: do you have at least 3gb free space on / ?
[12:04] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: or is this before the install has begun?
[12:04] <h3h_timo> why doesnt the theme manager come up whenever i try to run it
[12:04] <Abountu> does anyone knows where does gaim store the logs? (the chat logs)?
[12:04] <Drac|Mac> Jowi, this is before.
[12:04] <lithia> jkarr: linux is great!  if I was using Ms windows, my system would have crashed!  I didnt need to type anything, a window popped up saying FORCE QUIT!
[12:04] <Rhine> How do i switch to "owner" when this is the only account on the drive?
[12:04] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: did you burn the cd yourself? is the md5sum ok?
[12:05] <Drac|Mac> Jowi, I've used two copies, the md5sum is fine, and I used the same CD to install Ubuntu on this later model iMac.
[12:05] <Xbox_guru> how do I install a .tar.gz file
[12:05] <mwe> lithia: doesn't windows pop up a window saying when an application is not responding?
[12:06] <Jowi> Drac|Mac: then I do not know
[12:06] <Drac|Mac> :(
[12:06] <jcapote> can anyone recommend me a text editor with svn support
[12:06] <Sanne> Xbox_guru, tar.gz is an archive file you need to decompress first. What you do with it depends on what's inside ;)
[12:07] <kri> hello
[12:07] <kri> where do i dl latest version?
[12:07] <Abountu> jcapote: eclipse? I wouldn't say it's a text editor... but it can edit text
[12:07] <jcapote> right
[12:07] <apikoros> hi everyone
[12:07] <lithia> mwe: yes, but this time nothing popped up for 5mins
[12:07] <jcapote> yea thats what i thought, i was hoping for something lighter
[12:07] <lithia> mwe DUH!
[12:08] <Abountu> jcapote:... did you try searching on the internet?
[12:08] <jcapote> yup i googled for svn text editor
[12:08] <Rhine> Anyone know how to write to my root/bin folder its not allowing me to and im super user?
[12:09] <apikoros> Rhine, sudo
[12:09] <Rhine> is that all i type?
[12:09] <apikoros> sudo followed by the command you want to execute
[12:09] <apikoros> like sudo cp file /root/
[12:10] <Rhine> Oh ok thanks very much
[12:10] <apikoros> it will ask you for password -- type your own.
[12:10] <Xbox_guru> sanne: the newest version of firefox is inside
[12:10] <Chasehead> hello people
[12:11] <Abountu> I have a question about sudo, is any user allowed to run sudo, executing root command only using his own password?
[12:11] <Kelsey23> Nope
[12:11] <Kelsey23> Only people who you say can run sudo :-S
[12:11] <Kelsey23> *:-D
[12:11] <Sanne> Xbox_guru, ah, the firefox binary from mozilla.org? You can decompress the archive in a directory of your choice and the run the binary. But I think there's a tutorial about that on the wiki, lemme check.
[12:11] <Chasehead> that would seem pretty unsecure if you could
[12:12] <Abountu> Kelsey23: where exactly do I say that? and by default the user that is created when ubuntu is installed has the right to run sudo..
[12:12] <Kelsey23> Abountu: By default, that is the only person who can run sudo
[12:13] <nickrud> Abountu, anyone in the admin group can run sudo
[12:13] <Abountu> Kelsey23: ok thank you
[12:13] <Sanne> Xbox_guru, here's the wiki page (I didn't follow this one myself, but sinde this is the official recommendation, it should work for you): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:13] <Omni|Work> lithia: Some people at worked helped me.  Your singularily unhelpful and dismissive answer surprised me.  I expected better out of the Ubuntu community.  I wouldn't have gotten that in Fedora despite the fact that the people there can be very abrasive.
[12:13] <Abountu> Xbox_guru: it worked for me
[12:14] <kri> is there net install?
[12:16] <Jowi> !netinstall
[12:16] <ubotu> somebody said netinstall was To install Ubuntu via the net, try here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75372 ... Breezy netboot CD image: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[12:19] <dli> where are the files for the gnome applications menu?
[12:19] <nzx> hey, does the synaptics driver not work in breezy ?
[12:19] <Niceron> hi
[12:20] <McNutella> whats that nice wee ubuntu themes place?
[12:20] <Niceron> i am trying to install vmware and I got this msg : What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel
[12:20] <Niceron> The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not an existing directory.
[12:20] <Niceron> so what should I install ?
[12:20] <Niceron> what package
[12:20] <Niceron> kernel headers ?
[12:20] <nzx> Niceron, do you have the kernel headers installed>?
[12:20] <amphi> Niceron: install the kernel-headers package
[12:20] <loquitus_of_borg> Hey people. I am in the following situation. I am remotely accessing a client's machine. The client knows little or nothing and cannot help me. The client is running Ubuntu. Right now, the machine has two ethernet cards in it. One is enabled -- the other is not. The moment I enable the second one, I cannot connect in anymore. I am assuming that the machine does not know how to properly route packets out to the Internet with the
[12:20] <loquitus_of_borg> two interfaces. How can I assure it does once I enable the card? (if I enable it and don't deal with this, I can no-longer login to fix it)
[12:20] <dli> Niceron, install the linux-headers package
[12:21] <Niceron> linux or kernel
[12:21] <Niceron> what is the name of the package
[12:21] <james_> can anyone tell me how to enable the DVD player on ubuntu
[12:21] <amphi> !dvd
[12:21] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[12:22] <dli> Niceron, "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` "
[12:22] <McNutella> !themes
[12:22] <wims> !mysql
[12:22] <ubotu> Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:22] <nzx> Niceron, do, apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r
[12:22] <fblade> hey guys can i ask what codecs i need to make ubuntu work like windows for al media files?
[12:22] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: how are you doing this 'enabling'? ifconfig?
[12:22] <nzx> Niceron, do, 'at-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)'
[12:23] <Niceron> dl thanx
[12:23] <loquitus_of_borg> amphi: network-admin
[12:23] <Mark|> hey, what kernel version comes with the 5.10 install?
[12:23] <dli> Mark|, uname -a
[12:23] <nzx> Mark|, uname -a
[12:23] <james_> ok other then the bot i have gone to that wiki page and i still can not find that libdvdcss2
[12:23] <Mark|> I don't have it installed
[12:23] <Mark|> I sure fucking hope I know what uname -a does
[12:23] <fblade> anyone
[12:23] <Mark|> ;P
[12:23] <dli> ubotu tell nzx about easysource
[12:24] <Mark|> so
[12:24] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: did you look at the current /etc/network/interfaces?
[12:24] <Mark|> anyone want to reveal this top secret info?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Mark|: language
[12:24] <loquitus_of_borg> amphi: yes. briefly.
[12:24] <Mark|> english prefered
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Mark|: watch your language
[12:24] <nzx> dli, thanks, i didnt ask for it just then though :P
[12:24] <loquitus_of_borg> amphi: not sure how that helped. I am guessing here that my routing is getting all screwed up with the two different subnets
[12:24] <fblade> can anyone hep me please
[12:24] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: try configuring the card with ifconfig and route manually
[12:25] <loquitus_of_borg> amphi: with just one subnet, the gateway to the internet (default gateway) is obvious.
[12:25] <nzx> can someone tell me if the synaptics touchpad driver is broken in breezy ?
[12:25] <dli> !ubotu tell fblade about win32codecs
[12:25] <Kyoske> hey guys i gots a question
[12:25] <dli> nzx, it is not broken in breezy
[12:25] <Kyoske> where can i find a system rescue cd download
[12:26] <wims> there's a rescue
[12:26] <dli> Kyoske, ubuntu livecd
[12:26] <wims> Kyoske, there's built in rescue on the cd
[12:26] <nzx> dli, ok thanks alot, its strange, wheel scroll wont work for me
[12:26] <wims> just type rescue at the prompt
[12:26] <Sanne> fblade, look also here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:26] <eyedol> my Network Manager doesn't work it tells me No network connection
[12:26] <amphi> Kyoske: sysresccd.org is a nice one IMHO
[12:26] <dli> nzx, have a look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf (don't edit it)
[12:26] <Xbox_guru> sweet, Firefox is updated, thanks guys
[12:26] <coz_> recent dapper updates, last 15 minutes, has replaced the ubuntu distributor logo next to applications with the gnome foot....any way to systemically change this??
[12:26] <Xbox_guru> mabey it'll run faster noe...
[12:26] <Xbox_guru> *now
[12:27] <loquitus_of_borg> is there a place to specify the default gateway device if I have two cards installed?
[12:27] <Sanne> Xbox_guru, cool :)
[12:27] <Xbox_guru> hey, how do I get new ubuntu themes
[12:27] <Kyoske> well see i already have the ubuntu thing downloaded, so i already have the system rescue?
[12:27] <eyedol> how do i make Network manager detect wireless network
[12:27] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, edit your /etc/network/interfaces file to your needs, and pastebin the file
[12:28] <dli> eyedol, what wifi card?
[12:28] <wims> Kyoske,  yes, there's a rescue cd thingie built in on the Ubuntu cd, just type rescue at the prompt when you enter the cd and reboot
[12:28] <amphi> eyedol: try iwlist and iwconfig
[12:28] <Kyoske> promtp?
[12:28] <Kyoske> is that when i have the install screeny?
[12:28] <wims> at the first screen
[12:28] <nzx> dli, would you be able to look at my config? i'm putting it at pastebin right now
[12:28] <Kyoske> lol sry, im big time noob
[12:28] <eyedol> dli: Atheros 802.11b/g wireless
[12:28] <Kyoske> and what will that do, by the way?
[12:29] <wims> you can press enter to enter the installer, or you can type in a special installer, like rescue or system
[12:29] <nzx> dli, http://pastebin.com/721442
[12:29] <james_> can someone help me with the DVD setup
[12:29] <dli> eyedol, I think it's supported, so, "sudo iwconfig"
[12:29] <MystaMax> !DVD
[12:29] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[12:29] <nzx> actually everyone can look, can someone spot why scrolling sint working for me with my synaptics touchpad ?
[12:30] <eyedol> dli:is that all
[12:30] <james_> Mystamax i looked at that and can not find the Libdvdcss2
[12:30] <amphi> eyedol: iwlist <interface> scan should show available networks
[12:30] <dli> nzx, you have synaptics support in your xorg.conf
[12:30] <dli> eyedol, do you see a wireless card there?
[12:31] <nzx> dli, yep, i've loaded it, but its not working for some reason
[12:31] <eyedol> dli: yeah i see
[12:31] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: http://pastebin.com/721443
[12:31] <Poker> Hey how can i solve this error: "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH" It should be with aptitude but i d on't know he right command
[12:31] <eyedol> dli:atho
[12:31] <dli> nzx, have a look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log , locate EE and WW
[12:32] <amphi> Poker: install build-essential
[12:32] <dli> eyedol, yes, "sudo iwlist ath0 scan"
[12:32] <Rhine> Anyone know why bittorrent isnt downloading a file? It downloaded fine on my windows machine...
[12:32] <Poker> amphi: aptitude install build-essential ?
[12:33] <loquitus_of_borg> People. Here is my interfaces file: http://pastebin.com/721443          I basically want to ensure that when I bring eth2 up, that eth0 is still the default interface to the internet.
[12:33] <Blake79> On live CD[12:33] <loquitus_of_borg> how do I do that?
[12:33] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, you configured only eth0, one card
[12:33] <amphi> Poker: not sure, I use apt-get - 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' will do it for you
[12:33] <amphi> Blake79: yes
[12:33] <eyedol> dli: i get Error: unrecognised wireless card
[12:34] <Blake79> will that cause any problems unforeseen?
[12:34] <eyedol> dli: i get Error: unrecognised wireless request "scan"
[12:34] <Abountu> Does anyone know where does gaim same the chat log files
[12:34] <amphi> Blake79: what's on the first disk?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> Poker: aptitude or apt-get
[12:34] <dli> eyedol, okay, driver error
[12:34] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: you sure? look at the bottom. eth2 is there too
[12:34] <Blake79> Windows XP pro, second is data back-up with around 25gb free
[12:34] <Poker> ok thank you....
[12:34] <Rhine> Is there any alternate bittorrent clients for linux?
[12:34] <Poker> i have solved that problem
[12:34] <eyedol> dli, how do i fix that?
[12:35] <MisterN> Rhine: i used rtorrent some time ago
[12:35] <Poker> but now i have anotherone.... checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[12:35] <Xbox_guru> are there any guides to installing Mozilla thunderbird thunderbird
[12:35] <lakcaj> Anyone here running dapper?  I did and apt-get update today, and now my nvidia module doesn't load.  Wondering if anyone else is experiencing this.
[12:35] <Blake79> what is the command to bring HD's into the desktop? ubotu gave me the link last time.
[12:36] <amphi> Blake79: you can either install grub (the ubuntu boot loader) to the mbr of the first disk (it should give you an option to boot windows), or install it in the mbr of the second disk and use bios to select the boot device
[12:36] <james_> !dvd
[12:36] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[12:36] <gnomefreak> lakcaj: join #ubuntu+1 please for dapper
[12:36] <Hypoxiacion> site slow for anyone else?
[12:37] <Blake79> what is mbr? and will i need grub if i install into 2nd?
[12:37] <dli> eyedol, are you following the madwifi ubuntu howto?
[12:37] <Hypoxiacion> mbr = master boot record
[12:37] <ktogias> Is there any option to make nautilus cd/dvd burner burn cds/dvds on the fly (with out creating the inage to the hard disk frst)?
[12:38] <eyedol> dli: no i guess i have to url please
[12:38] <amphi> Blake79: 'master boot record' - you'll need the bootloader on one of the disks; if your bios lets you choose the boot device easily, then I'd install it to the second disk, leaving your windows disk unchanged
[12:38] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, oh, sorry, my fault
[12:39] <Blake79> that's what i'm hpoing, and yes, BIOS is easy to change.   So i put in the install CD, and it will prompt which one to install to?  What about grub?
[12:39] <dli> eyedol, www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-105437.html
[12:39] <eyedol> dli: thanks
[12:39] <Blake79> is it needed?
[12:40] <eyedol> dli: hope it helps
[12:40] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, eth2 is not configured correct, for static IP, you need "address", "netmask", "gateway"
[12:40] <Xbox_guru> hey, is there a ubuntu guide for thunderbird
[12:40] <Blake79> does anyone know the script to run to bring Window's HD onto desktop?  (want to make sure i install to correct one?)
[12:40] <amphi> Blake79: tell it to install grub on that disk's mbr - which disk is it on which controller?
[12:40] <dli> eyedol, also, http://www.madwifi.net/
[12:40] <james_> Xbox_guru what do you need to know about thunderbird
[12:41] <eyedol> dli: checking... that as well
[12:41] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: well see that's where I don't understand. I want to ensure that my defualt gateway is through the eth0 interface -- how would I do that?
[12:41] <james_> Xbox_gure: what is your question for thunderbird
[12:41] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, no, you have to understand how it is connected
[12:42] <MystaMax> ahh!, the forums are down?
[12:42] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, at least for static IP
[12:42] <MystaMax> no ping replies from www.ubuntuforums.or
[12:42] <MystaMax> g
[12:42] <MystaMax> :(
[12:42] <Hypoxiacion> Im having trouble connecting to the forums too
[12:43] <Xbox_guru> james_: are there any installation guides
[12:43] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: ok... well. the eth2 interface clearly has the ip and netmask set. I just have not set the gateway yet. can I set the gateway to be the gateway provided to me on the eth0 interface?
[12:43] <loquitus_of_borg> as in, if the eth0 interface is on the 192.168.1 subnet, can I put in "gateway <IP_ADDRESS>" as the gateway entry for eth2?
[12:43] <Poker> someone knows why i have this error "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" ???
[12:43] <Malbojia> good evening all
[12:43] <james_> Xbox_guru: did you just install ubuntu
[12:43] <watson540> Hey guys i have this unique problem while compiling something from cvs, and although its unique to me its not toally isolated by the apps that give the error, i have googled this a BUNCH and have found a lot of complaints but no resolv..
[12:44] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, why do you need eth2 then?
[12:44] <dli> Poker, "sudo apt-get install libX11-dev"
[12:44] <roostishaw> what is the command to appen a string of text to the end of a file in bash?
[12:45] <eugman> How do you temporarily prevent an autorun from being mounted?
[12:45] <Poker> dli: ho gi installato libx11-dev
[12:45] <watson540> aclocal: configure.in: 32: macro `AM_ENABLE_SHARED' not found in library - and this one on another line - aclocal: configure.in: 40: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library - all this is given while running an 'autogen.sh' script and the autogen is trying to run 'aclocal' when it fails with this error
[12:45] <Poker> dli i already installed libx11-dev
[12:45] <watson540> I have just upgraded to dapper this morning because someone suggested it and reported that this app did INDEED build on his system
[12:46] <dli> Poker, libxt-dev
[12:46] <watson540> I have installed libtool, and m4 and all other required deps
[12:46] <james_> is dapper better then brezzy
[12:46] <amphi> watson540: try #ubuntu+1 perhaps
[12:46] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: I am trying to connect to some boxes that are directly on the eth2's 172.17 subnet
[12:46] <amphi> james_: doesn't sound it ;) dapper is still unstable
[12:47] <eugman> roostishaw the format of output >> file  should work.
[12:47] <Poker> dli: ok thanks
[12:47] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, you don't have a router for this subnet?
[12:47] <eugman> Let me find an exact link
[12:47] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: other LAN machines should have this machines LAN iface ip addr as default gw
[12:48] <Malbojia> Was wondering if theirs a gui ftp client that can do SSL ftp connections?
[12:48] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: and you need to enable forwarding on this machine
[12:48] <eugman> http://www.linux.org.mt/node/49#N1042E
[12:48] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: there are routers for both subnets...
[12:48] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, use the currect box then, gateway <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:48] <james_> oh ok
[12:48] <james_> then i will stick with brezzy
[12:49] <james_> why dosnt brezzy come with libdvdcss2
[12:49] <amphi> james_: wiser IMHO
[12:49] <james_> amphi: what
[12:49] <james_> is IMHO
[12:49] <amphi> james_: legal reasons (US I believe, but perhaps not only)
[12:49] <james_> oh ok
[12:49] <amphi> james_: install the bsdgames package and use wtf(6) ;)
[12:49] <Sanne> watson540, maybe try using an automake version? Get info with 'update-alternatives --display automake'
[12:49] <Sandma> afternoon all, Calif here
[12:50] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: basically, I have subnet 172.17, and subnet 192.168.1. Both have routers. The Internet is on the 192.168.1 subnet at the <IP_ADDRESS> address. So I want this machine to be able to talk to everything on both subnets, and also know that internet packets go out on the 192.168.1 subnet to the <IP_ADDRESS> router gateway
[12:50] <james_> amphi: i dont get what you mean with wtf(6)
[12:50] <Sanne> watson540, s/an automake version/another automake version/
[12:50] <Sandma> any idea why my firefox is not running Java, do I need a plugin or somthing??
[12:50] <amphi> james_: wtf is a program, the 6 refers to the section of the manual its manpage resides in
[12:50] <eugman> James, A analogue is lock picking. It's illegal to buy lock picks in my state but I won't be arrested for having them and picking locks I own. Ubuntu doesn't want to get in trouble for distrubuting dvd lockpicks.
[12:50] <Sandma> newbie...just installed Ubuntu 5.10
[12:51] <loquitus_of_borg> amphi: basically, I have subnet 172.17, and subnet 192.168.1. Both have routers. The Internet is on the 192.168.1 subnet at the <IP_ADDRESS> address. So I want this machine to be able to talk to everything on both subnets, and also know that internet packets go out on the 192.168.1 subnet to the <IP_ADDRESS> router gateway
[12:51] <james_> oh ok
[12:51] <james_> well i got it now
[12:51] <james_> i just had to re do my repositores
[12:51] <james_> =)
[12:51] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, then, it should work as it is
[12:51] <eugman> Congratulations , Sandma. Is there anything you'd like help with inparticular?
[12:52] <Xbox_guru> James_: yes I just did
[12:52] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, maybe, add a default gw
[12:52] <amphi> james_: programs can have pages of the same name in different sections - eg crontab(1) describes the crontab program, and crontab(5) describes the crontab file syntax; so for the latter, you would do 'man 5 crontab'
[12:52] <Sandma> just the Firefox asking me for java....
[12:52] <Xbox_guru> james_: I installed a couple of days ago and am still new to linux
[12:52] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, post-up route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:52] <james_> Xbox_gure: ok it is already on your system
[12:52] <james_> you just have to goto the add applications
[12:52] <Sandma> I'm an OS/2 user from the beggining....
[12:52] <Sandma> is that for me James?
[12:52] <james_> amphi: ok
[12:52] <james_> brb
[12:53] <Sandma> so how do I do that??
[12:53] <watson540> Sane: actuyally as someone rccommended (the same guy that got it to build) to,ld me the same thing, update automake so i did, i installed version 1.7 AND 1.9 both giving the same error :(
[12:53] <james_> sandma: what are you asking
[12:53] <nickrud> !tell Sandma about javadebs
[12:53] <rosen> what's the command to get the bot to tell me something ?
[12:53] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: just bringing up the LAN iface should create a suitable routing entry for that subnet, without affecting the default gw
[12:53] <Sandma> my firefox is asking for "java" to connect to a site...
[12:53] <nickrud> rosen, /msg ubotu <factoid>
[12:53] <Sandma> is there  a plugin or somthing
[12:54] <amphi> rosen: /msg ubotu foo
[12:54] <Xbox_guru> James_: how do I make it my default mail application
[12:54] <nickrud> Sandma, you should have gotten a pm that tells you how to install java
[12:54] <amphi> !java
[12:54] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:55] <zack_> im still having trouble with this nvidia driver install can someone help me?
[12:55] <loquitus_of_borg> amphi: but where is the default gateway even specified? I mean seriosly... how does this machine know where the heck to send internet bound packets unless I tell it?
[12:55] <watson540> Sanne: any more ideas?
[12:55] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: so in interfaces, I add "post-up route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>" to the eth2 section after the netmask entry?
[12:55] <salah> what do I need to play .wmv files?
[12:55] <Xbox_guru> james_: it said that application mozilla thunderbirdnot available. The application can not be found in my archive
[12:55] <Sandma> java is instlled on the system...1.4.2
[12:56] <Karant> hello
[12:56] <Karant> I need some help mounting a hard-drive.
[12:56] <salah> hi
[12:56] <amphi> loquitus_of_borg: you use route; eg. route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:56] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, it should work as it is
[12:56] <watson540> dooglus: are you here bro?
[12:56] <Sanne> watson540, no, sorry, at this point I recommend asking the programmers about this.
[12:56] <james_> Xbox_guru: just a sec
[12:57] <zack_> im still having trouble with this nvidia driver install can someone help me?
[12:57] <MisterN> n8
[12:57] <Karant> Can somone please private-message me if willing to help me mount a Windows hard-drive. Thanks.
[12:57] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, if not, "route" to debug
[12:57] <james_> Xbox_guru: click on system, preferance, prefered application
[12:57] <dli> ubotu tell Karant about ntfs
[12:58] <james_> Sandma: sorry was afk you will need to update you java
[12:58] <Xbox_guru> james: ok, I'm there
[12:58] <nickrud> Sandma, 1.4.2 is too old for many of the newer sites
[12:59] <Karant> Okay, I got one of my Windows drives mounted, how do I make it so I can 'write' it and have full permsissions?
[12:59] <Sandma> might be,,,but firefox should see it anyway
[12:59] <Sandma> thanks...you are a very busy person...go on vacation,,,,
[12:59] <zack_> is this 1 command or 2 ?
[12:59] <nickrud> Sandma, try sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:59] <zack_> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[12:59] <zack_> CC=gcc-3.4 sudo ./NVIDIA*
[12:59] <james_> Xbox_guru: see where is says mail reader
[01:00] <Xbox_guru> james: yes
[01:00] <lufis> Hi, I'm having a lot of trouble with a lexmark printer driver. The driver isn't listed when I go to install a new printer, so I downloaded it off of lexmark's website. The tarball contained an sh script and a readme. I followed the instructions on the readme and ran the script, but I can't find the ppd anywhere!
[01:00] <nickrud> Karant, ubuntu doesn't support writing to ntfs
[01:01] <wims> are there som kinda system update tool like windows update for winxp ?
[01:01] <james_> Xbox_guru: click on it and select tunderbird
[01:01] <corhere> I have an HP printer and I installed the HPLIP GUI package. Even though I can print and scan perfectly, The hp-toolbox shows a dialog to the effect of "no HP printers available" and exits. Is there any way to fix this? The command-line tools detect and communicate with the printer just fine.
[01:01] <james_> Xbox_guru: click on custom
[01:01] <Xbox_guru> James; Thunderbird isn't an option
[01:02] <{fletch}> fletch_
[01:02] <james_> Xbox_guru: if it is not there then you will need to add it by the add application
[01:03] <nickrud> wims, yes, it's called the update-manger, & runs automatically if you're on the net. A red icon will appear on your top menubar if an update is available
[01:03] <adriatichero> hello guys. i've a question: i've a working fedora 5 installation on an old machine (laptop) with 128 MB RAM *without* cd rom. i've downloaded the xubuntu iso (the latest available: flight 7). is there a way i can replace fedora with xubuntu by booting from the iso image on the hard disk? i don't care about loosing the data i've now ...
[01:03] <apokryphos> adriatichero: /msg ubotu install
[01:03] <Sanne> wims, if you run Gnome, there'a the update notificator in the system tray, or you could run Synaptic and let it show you upgradable packages.
[01:03] <Xbox_guru> james: it says it can't install thunderbird because it says it isn't available
[01:03] <unf> hello
[01:03] <wims> Sanne, thanks
[01:04] <wims> doesn't show any updates though
[01:04] <Sanne> wims, you're welcome
[01:04] <wims> maybe my version is too old?
[01:04] <unf> ive installed the sun JDK via aptitude and netbeans' installation doesnt find it, is it normal?
[01:04] <Karant> Okay, can someone please help me mount a secondary NTFS drive of mine (no OS installed on it) (HDA2/D:\ partition)?
[01:04] <wims> i run Hoary
[01:04] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: ok... why does it say now that interface eth2 is not configured?
[01:04] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: this happens if I try to ifdown eth2
[01:04] <Sanne> wims, ah, dunno, maybe there are no more updates for Hoary?
[01:05] <wims> Sanne,  yeah that's what i'm thinking
[01:05] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, "ifdown eth2", and do it manually, after it works, set up your interfaces
[01:05] <eyedol> wims, Hoary is way out dated
[01:05] <wims> yeah i know it's old
[01:05] <wims> but i don't have any empty dvds or cds at my hand
[01:06] <wims> so i have to stick to hoary i guess
[01:06] <Sanne> wims, you did try updating your package list, yes?
[01:06] <wims> Sanne yes i did
[01:06] <loquitus_of_borg> dli: I know. I tried to ifdown eth2. that's the error I got
[01:06] <Sanne> wims, ok, just checking ;)
[01:06] <eyedol> wims: do you have interent connectivity
[01:06] <dli> loquitus_of_borg, go ahead
[01:07] <wims> eyedol,  i'm here now so i have :)
[01:07] <corhere> anybody here have any experience with hp-toolbox?
[01:07] <eyedol> think of updating your source.list
[01:08] <wims> can i put breezy stuff in it and it still will work with hoary?
[01:08] <eyedol> change all instance of hoary in your source.list file to breezy
[01:08] <lss> hi, I am using 16bit colour depth, and I can notice the limited colour palette with (which should be) smooth transitions. How can I increase the bit depth?..Thanks
[01:08] <wims> ahhh k
[01:08] <wims> gonna try that
[01:08] <Xbox_guru> I downloaded Mozilla thunderbird off of the website, how do I extract the files?
[01:08] <eyedol> wims: then do sudo apt-get update
[01:08] <eyedol> wims: then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:09] <eyedol> vims: to upgrade your system to breezy at least
[01:09] <nickrud> lss, in /etc/X11 , there's a line DefaultDepth , change that to 24
[01:09] <nickrud> lss, er, /etc/X11/xorg.conf even
[01:09] <zack_> im trying to fix my video driver settings, im at this site https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual?highlight=%28nvidia%29 but when i get to the second to last command it doesnt work, can someone help me
[01:09] <lss> nickrud,  thanks a lot
[01:09] <nickrud> lss, then log out of your desktop & hit clt-alt-backspace
[01:10] <unf> ive installed the sun JDK via aptitude and netbeans' installation doesnt find it, is it normal?
[01:11] <wims> eyedol,  how big is the download, do you know?
[01:11] <kubus> Xbox_guru, use file-roller or somthing like that, or type: tar -xv /path/to/thunderbird.tar.gz
[01:11] <salah> where do I get win32codecs?
[01:11] <nickrud> !codecs
[01:11] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[01:11] <zack_> how do you uninstall programs? like wine
[01:11] <Xbox_guru> kubus, ok I extracted it, how do I run the install shield
[01:11] <eyedol> wims: no but it depending your connectivity, it can take some time if it is slow
[01:12] <kubus> zack_, sudo apt-get remove filename or use synaptic
[01:12] <wims> eyedol, yeah, i'm on 1mbit
[01:12] <zack_> ok
[01:12] <wims> 450 megs
[01:12] <||arifaX> zack_ you hang at that multiline command on the wiki?
[01:13] <krispo> hoal
[01:13] <Rhine> If i want to access a 80gb harddrive on the same rig what filesystem should i format it as i tried Extended 2 and 3 but they only give me 13 gb
[01:13] <krispo> alguen sabes
[01:13] <krispo> como  configurar   la  soiulser list
[01:13] <zack_> ya
[01:13] <nickrud> !es
[01:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:13] <zack_> the cc=gcc command
[01:13] <zack_> for breezy
[01:14] <||arifaX> line#1: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[01:14] <||arifaX> CC=gcc-3.4
[01:14] <krispo> ken me puede ayudar
[01:14] <krispo> con la soursetlist  de  ubuntu
[01:14] <zack_> ok
[01:14] <||arifaX> zack: line#1: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 CC=gcc-3.4
[01:14] <nickrud> krispo,  #ubuntu-es por favor
[01:14] <||arifaX> zack: line#2: sudo ./NVIDIA*
[01:15] <nickrud> heh, my spanish truly sucks
[01:15] <McScruff> what command do i use to see the chipset in a usb wifi device
[01:15] <wims> well, it was sufficient for that
[01:16] <zack_> ok when i type "sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 CC=gcc-3.4" it says E
[01:17] <zack_> E: couldn't find package CC
[01:17] <dli> zack_, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[01:17] <dli> McScruff, lsusb
[01:17] <MystaMax> how do i check what kernel i have installed via the terminal
[01:17] <zack_> okok
[01:18] <McScruff> ty dli
[01:18] <dli> McScruff, you may need usbutils
[01:18] <kubus> zack_, use this command before you install the 3.4 compiled nvidia drivers: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 after youve installed gcc3.4
[01:18] <McScruff> i hope its not broadcom
[01:18] <dli> MystaMax, no, broadcom wireless sucks
[01:18] <MystaMax> dli: huh? u mean mcScruff?
[01:19] <McScruff> hehehe
[01:19] <wims> why does it suck?
[01:19] <salah> where do I get win32codecs?
[01:19] <||arifaX> zack:: sorry told you wrong: line#1: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4          line#2: CC=gcc-3.4    line#3: sudo ./NVIDIA*
[01:19] <dli> MystaMax, sorry
[01:19] <zack_> oh
[01:19] <MystaMax> its cool
[01:19] <fletch_> question: does broadcom wireless have native linux support in dapper?
[01:19] <||arifaX> zack_ thats because I don't own a nvidia...
[01:19] <nickrud> !w32codecs
[01:19] <nickrud> methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install. To use w32codecs on a 64-bit system, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399
[01:19] <zack_> ok i tried line#1: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 line#2: CC=gcc-3.4  and now i just did this "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4"
[01:19] <McScruff> fletch_, yes but its crap and you need to use fwcutter
[01:20] <fletch_> McScruff: o? fwcutter?? I have a presario v2000 i kept on a wired connection because of this
[01:21] <McScruff> fletch_, if you search the wiki there is a huge amount of info, i have it working but still use ndiswrapper
[01:21] <zack_> now i just tried sudo ./NVIDIA* and it said " sudo: ./NVIDIA*: command not found
[01:22] <helpneeded> hello all
[01:22] <kubus> zack_, type: sudo sh /path/to/nvidia/driverpaketname.run
[01:23] <helpneeded> hows everyons day
[01:23] <fletch_> McScruff: great! thanks a lot, just one question, do you have the ability to physically shut your wireless on and off within ubuntu and have it play nice at the same time with your config?
[01:23] <jtmoney_> !wireless
[01:23] <ubotu> I guess wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[01:23] <helpneeded> !install
[01:23] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[01:24] <amphi> fletch_: I shut mine off my removing the module ;)
[01:24] <zack_> driverpaketname.run?
[01:25] <helpneeded> i have a ? reguarding ubuntu install cd
[01:25] <kubus> zack_, you try to install the gcc3.4 compiled nvidia drivers?
[01:25] <zack_> kubus, yes
[01:25] <duckdown> Hey guys, how can I use a VGA font in a gnome-terminal?
[01:25] <zack_> i think
[01:25] <helpneeded> teh dvd believe its called ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386
[01:26] <helpneeded> i asume that lets you install the full o/s  onto a hard drive
[01:26] <daryl_> I have run the command "sudo apt-get remove wine" and it did not completely remove wine.  when I type wine, it still performs wine funcitons.  how do i really remove it?  (#winehq said to ask my distro)
[01:26] <nickrud> zack_, on the command not found it's one of two things: you're not running the command in the same dir as the NVIDIA script, or it's not executable
[01:27] <zack_> nickrud, how do i find the directory its in?
[01:27] <nickrud> zack_, sudo updatedb && locate NVIDIA
[01:28] <starkes> hey, can anyone here tell me where the kernel sources are located? (yes i did install the package, and its for 2.6.12)
[01:28] <nickrud> starkes, /usr/src
[01:28] <zack_> nirckrud, ok what now? i typed that in and it waited a minute or to and now im back at the prompt
[01:29] <nickrud> zack_, if locate NVIDIA doesn't work now, are you sure you have it?
[01:29] <starkes> hmm, does that package by default not fill up a directory with headers and whatnot? i just realized all i have in there is a compressed file
[01:29] <starkes> guess i should extract that
[01:29] <daryl_> Anyone hae an answer about hwo to completely remove a pplication, when apt-get remove doesn't work?
[01:30] <nickrud> starkes, if all you need are the headers (that is, you're compiling a module, not the entire kernel) you only need to do sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:30] <ericz> daryl_ sudo dpkg -P packagename, but why wouldn't apt-get work?
[01:31] <megaman123> how can mount a windows harddrive??
[01:31] <starkes> ah, i think i only need the headers, i need them so vmware can compile a custom module for itself
[01:31] <amphi> daryl_: apt-get remove --purge will remove the package and its config files
[01:32] <zack_> nickrud, no im not sure i have it i have done all the steps so far on this site https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaManual?highlight=%28nvidia%29, and the xorg.conf has "geforce 6800 ?" as my card listed(mine is 6800gs) so i assume i do have it
[01:32] <Imarri> hi
[01:32] <daryl_> ericz: no idea why apt-get didnt't work.
[01:33] <daryl_> amphi, um... hrm thanks
[01:33] <megaman123> i have 2 harddisks..linux (boot - master) and windows (slave) ... i want to see the windows drive ?? how
[01:33] <GhOsT> bonjour
[01:33] <helpneeded> can someone tell me if this file lets you install the full version of ubuntu onto hard drive ubuntu-5.10-dvd-i386.iso
[01:33] <Imarri> does anyone know how to install a php mode for emacs
[01:33] <nickrud> daryl_, did you go to http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html and get the file yet?
[01:33] <GhOsT> quelqu'un parle francais ?
[01:33] <tahorg> !fr
[01:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:33] <GhOsT> mici :)
[01:33] <Imarri> i tried but it gave me a weird error
[01:33] <intelikey> megaman123 mount it.
[01:33] <daryl_> nickrud: um no.  why?
[01:33] <intelikey> !tell megaman123 about ntfs
[01:34] <Imarri> is anyone hearing me
[01:34] <nickrud> daryl_, cuz that's where you get the file that matches NVIDIA* :)
[01:34] <bilford> helpneeded:  the next version is coming out in 2 weeks.  maybe best to get the Dapper CD
[01:34] <daryl_> nickrud: but i am not having a problem with nvidia
[01:34] <megaman123> thanks all :))
[01:34] <amphi> Imarri: "php-elisp - Emacs support for php files", quoth apt-cache
[01:34] <helpneeded> ah ok ... lol somesaid that in a post on the forum wasnt you by any chance  lol ????
[01:35] <bilford> me?  no
[01:35] <lwizardl> if i want to format /dev/hdb as a single drive i already did fdisk /dev/hdb d 1 and d 2 (no partitions left). now i want to format the drive so i can mount it whats next
[01:35] <amphi> Imarri: BTW, if no one answers it's probably because they don't know and/or don't care
[01:35] <nickrud> daryl_, you said sudo ./NVIDIA* didn't work, you need to get the video driver file from nvidia. Or I am totally confused.
[01:35] <zack_> nickrud, that was me hahha
[01:35] <Imarri> ok
[01:35] <daryl_> ericz: sudo dpkg -P packagename did not remvoe it either.
[01:35] <daryl_> nickrud: perhaps there was another daryl asking for help earlier?
[01:35] <amphi> lwizardl: mkfs -t whatever /dev/hdb
[01:35] <nickrud> zack_, daryl_ erg :)
[01:35] <daryl_> nickrud: or perhaps it was zack:_ hehe
[01:36] <zack_> nickrud, ok since i cannot view gnome how do i get the file?
[01:36] <Imarri> amphi: i did a search in synaptic for php mode, installed it and it gave me an error even though it installed
[01:36] <bilford> helpneeded: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-7/
[01:36] <daryl_> ericz: any other suggestions? = )
[01:36] <bilford> helpneeded: you dont need the DVD, just the CD
[01:36] <nickrud> zack_, you can do sudo apt-get install lynx , and run lynx from the command line. It's a text based browser
[01:36] <kubus> zack_, http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html download the right driver in your homefolder (For Ubuntu i386 you need IA32). Now remove all the nvidia-glx stuff (sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx). Install the Kernel Headers (only the headers) and build-essential and gcc-3.4. Then close X (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop). Now export gcc (export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4). Then install nvidia drivers (sudo sh /home/zack/nvidia*.run (replace the example with the righ
[01:36] <kubus> t patch and filename)). Now type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choice "nvidia" isntead of "nv". Now startx with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start".
[01:37] <amphi> Imarri: I use vim, so I'm not the best person to ask; could you be less vague about the error?
[01:37] <lwizardl> is this wrong ? mkfs -t /home/user/pcstorage /dev/hdb
[01:37] <Kyoske> crap crap crap
[01:37] <nickrud> lwizardl, in many ways
[01:37] <Kyoske> i need some help quick
[01:37] <Kyoske> nickrud
[01:37] <Kyoske> someone i knoow ^^
[01:38] <Imarri> ok
[01:38] <nickrud> Kyoske, I promise nothing :)
[01:38] <Kyoske> good
[01:38] <lwizardl> nickrud, ok, wanna help me?
[01:38] <Imarri> jus give me a minute
[01:38] <Kyoske> well i installed the ubuntu
[01:38] <nickrud> lwizardl, you want to mount a partition, what type?
[01:38] <lwizardl> format & partition
[01:38] <Kyoske> and then  it kicked out my device and restarted
[01:38] <Kyoske> and now it is asking for some
[01:38] <nickrud> lwizardl, what type & what partition?
[01:39] <amphi> lwizardl: yes
[01:39] <kubus> zack_, if you have problems, install irssi and lynx, then you can use IRC and www without X.
[01:39] <Kyoske> proper boot device
[01:39] <Kyoske> what is the prober boot device!?!><
[01:39] <amphi> lwizardl: -t is to specify the fs type; you specify the mount point at mount time, not mkfs time
[01:39] <lwizardl> what filesystem is best for files 4gb+
[01:39] <amphi> lwizardl: xfs is designed for large files
[01:39] <dli> lwizardl, jfs, xfs, reiser4
[01:39] <nickrud> Kyoske, I don't know much about the installer, I just used it a couple of times
[01:39] <Kyoske> who does><
[01:40] <Imarri> amphi: This is the error: E: php-mode: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[01:40] <Kyoske> cuz i dont know what to do now
[01:40] <Kyoske> i cant install anytrhing
[01:40] <lwizardl> how stable is xfs ?
[01:40] <amphi> lwizardl: seems fine, I use it here ATM
[01:41] <squidgy> Hi.  I have been successfully using totem to view Xvid-encoded .avi files for some time now, but suddenly files that used to play back correctly are displayed with completely incorrect colors (which look like they're wrapping around from being scaled up by some large factor.)  Any ideas on what's wrong?
[01:41] <dli> lwizardl, it's designed for server, and in stable kernel
[01:41] <dmbt> does ubuntu breezy use the dev file system?
[01:41] <dmbt> or can we just turn that off in the kernel?
[01:42] <nickrud> dmbt, of course it does
[01:42] <amphi> dmbt: devfs? that's been 'deprecated' for a long time
[01:42] <dmbt> yeh, but on the stock kernel they have it set so its built in
[01:42] <amphi> deprecated with prejudice ;)
[01:42] <dmbt> some distros, as ugly as it is still use it
[01:42] <Kyoske> sigh -_- no one will help me and my computer is on the line here =(
[01:42] <jtmoney> !updates
[01:42] <ubotu> Wish I knew. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jtmoney
[01:42] <amphi> dmbt: that'd be udev, no?
[01:42] <dmbt> i assume ubuntu uses udev, correct?
[01:42] <jtmoney> !security
[01:42] <ubotu> jtmoney: I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[01:42] <dmbt> yes
[01:42] <nickrud> disappearing devs, heh
[01:43] <dmbt> i like udev
[01:43] <nickrud> s/dev/developers/
[01:44] <Kyoske> hey does anyone know any thing about installing ubuntu?
[01:44] <dmbt> Kyoske: probably
[01:44] <Kyoske> can u take the time to help me?
[01:44] <wims> have macromedia released proper flash for 64 bits firfox yet ?
[01:44] <nickrud> wims, no
[01:45] <wims> nickrud, k, thanks anyway
[01:45] <Kyoske> dmbt, can you help me with my problem(s)
[01:45] <dmbt> well, the whole room can
[01:45] <amphi> Kyoske: WAYTTD?
[01:45] <dmbt> theres 703 users in here, and at least 50% of them can help
[01:46] <untung> can we installed winxp and ubuntu on single hardddisk?
[01:46] <wims> untung,  sure
[01:46] <Kyoske> wayttd?
[01:46] <jvai> wassup uall
[01:47] <wims> untung,  but you need separate partitions
[01:47] <Jowi> Kyoske: let me see if I understood you correctly. you had 2 harddiskdrives. you installed ubuntu on one of them. then you removed one of the drives from your computer and now it wont boot?
[01:47] <untung> wims, how can we create separare partion on single harddisk?
[01:47] <untung> and wims which one should i installed first, ubuntu or xp?
[01:48] <daryl_> how do i delete files globally from a root command?  the browser window doesn't have sudo or root priveledges.
[01:48] <amphi> Kyoske: what are you trying to do?
[01:48] <richiefrich> anyone qemu
[01:48] <Xappe> untung, first xp...then leave empty space on harddisk for ubuntu to use
[01:48] <richiefrich> ?
[01:48] <amphi> richiefrich: someone qemu
[01:49] <wims> untung, there are several utilities that can partition your harddisk, like PQMAgic for Windows XP. But it costs money. I would install WinXP before  Ubuntu, but I don't know if it's required
[01:49] <Kyoske> amphi, im trying to install ubuntu
[01:49] <roostishaw> will restarting my comp also do the same thing as killall gnome-panel?
[01:49] <Kyoske> i booted it up with the cd
[01:49] <richiefrich> amphi, u used it ?
[01:49] <daryl_> how do i delete files globally from a root command?  the browser window doesn't have sudo or root priveledges.
[01:49] <amphi> richiefrich: yeah
[01:49] <Kyoske> tried to follow my friends intructions but what he had put, wasnt working for me
[01:49] <richiefrich> amphi,  can i load a dmg or must it be an iso or img ?
[01:49] <amphi> daryl_: sudo rm foo
[01:49] <untung> xappe, how big the partition for ubuntu and what format? xp can do NTFS
[01:50] <amphi> richiefrich: dmg?
[01:50] <Kyoske> when installing, you have a blue screen right, with grey boxes?
[01:50] <daryl_> amphi: but that doesn't go into subdirectories...
[01:50] <wims> untung, if you have a new harddisk without anything on it you can create new partitions with fdisk. If you have data on the harddisk it will be lost though
[01:50] <richiefrich> amphi, dmg = mac OSx
[01:50] <amphi> daryl_: man rm ;)
[01:50] <daryl_> sudo man rm?
[01:50] <Kyoske> am i right?
[01:50] <Kyoske> is that hwo it is for everyone?
[01:50] <kubus> dark, only man rm.
[01:50] <amphi> richiefrich: ah... I don't think you can boot an osx image under qemu, but ask in #qemu perhaps
[01:50] <roostishaw> will restarting my comp also do the same thing as killall gnome-panel?
[01:50] <roostishaw> anyone?
[01:50] <megaman123> trying to compile something and got this error "no rule to make target 'mad.h' ????
[01:51] <untung> wims, i am thinking about creating a separate NTFS parttion and let ubuntu reformat that
[01:51] <amphi> Kyoske: I don't recall ;)
[01:51] <richiefrich> amphi, thanks i asked waiting for answer
[01:51] <Xappe> untung, first make a partition for windows using the windows installer (during the windows install) leave the remaining space for ubuntu to format during ubuntu installation
[01:51] <wims> untung, i would just leave empty unparti9tioned space at the end of the disc after the win xp partition
[01:51] <watson540> Sanne: hey you still there? i finnally FIGURED it out!!
[01:51] <amphi> richiefrich: what is this 'dmg' terminology?
[01:51] <SpeEn> Hello, I was wondering what the latest version of dapper is?
[01:51] <Sanne> watson540, yeah, I'm here. What did you do?
[01:51] <wims> untung,  then let ubuntu installer use the rest of the free space for it's partitions
[01:52] <richiefrich> amphi, it's mac's iso
[01:52] <richiefrich> amphi, they use dmg
[01:52] <untung> wims,xappe, you mean i leave the partition unformated?
[01:52] <amphi> richiefrich: it's an iso9660 image, or not?
[01:52] <zack_> kubus, i have done all the steps you said but when i get to sudo ./NVIDIA* it says "sudo: ./NIVIDIA-Linux-blah (name of downloaded file)blah: command not found"
[01:52] <amphi> richiefrich: or iso +RR +J, or what?
[01:52] <wims> untung, yes, make one partition for xp and just leave the rest of the disk unpartitioned. Make sure it's big enough for what you need for your linux install
[01:53] <richiefrich> amphi, no it's -->  dmg on /mnt/OSX type hfsplus (rw,loop=/dev/loop0)
[01:53] <megaman123> ok got it: libmad
[01:53] <wims> untung,  how big you need is a matter of preferance
[01:53] <richiefrich> amphi, i mounted ity
[01:53] <watson540> Sanne: I ended up doing this.... Automake contains the tool aclocal, which installs all requires macros. aclocal gets these macros from a directory with m4 files. aclocal --print-ac-dir reports this directory. Your libtool installation must install the libtool.m4  file in the ac-dir. - so I copied that file (libtool.m4) into the pertaining directory, i had the file it just want in the right folder!!!!
[01:53] <untung> thanks wims, i will try to do that. What boot loader do i need?
[01:53] <amphi> richiefrich: oh, ok, os not an iso image at all
[01:53] <watson540> i still get the error but it builds now Im soo happy i been on this for a day!
[01:53] <watson540> :)
[01:53] <kubus> zack_, if the file exists, it must go. but why you dont use the nvidia-glx drivers?
[01:54] <richiefrich> amphi, well i mounted it :)
[01:54] <T`> guys, i get different resolutions when i start xfce thru gdm vs. startx
[01:54] <untung> wims; what i mean is the boot manager for ubuntu and xp?
[01:54] <wims> untung,  there's a bootloader called GRUB thats installed in the ubuntu installer that works pretty good. It should be able to configure itself
[01:54] <T`> anyone know how i can fix it??
[01:54] <zack_> kubus, when i did that command that had to do with removing them like oyu said it said they were never there
[01:54] <Kyoske> ok
[01:54] <Sanne> watson540, wow, sounds tricky, congrats for figuring this out, and thanks for reporting back! :)
[01:54] <Kyoske> i have entered rescue mode
[01:54] <wims> untung,  or boot manager if you like
[01:54] <Dyngo> which one should I use: macromedia flash or gplflash?
[01:54] <richiefrich> amphi,  mount -o loop MAC.dmg /mnt/OSX/
[01:54] <Kyoske> to do somthing
[01:54] <Xappe> untung: you'll be fine with the default ubuntu boot loader (grub) wich will install during ubuntu installation
[01:54] <Kyoske> crap i cant talk here
[01:54] <Kyoske> can someone help me?
[01:54] <watson540> Sanne: yeah i wish im tempted to go postit on ll the forum posts i read in the past day ROFL
[01:54] <zack_> kubus, by the way im using ubuntu breezy for 64 bit machines
[01:54] <Kyoske> and u give ur time to help me?
[01:54] <untung> thans xappe.for the tips
[01:55] <amphi> richiefrich: but qemu doesn't boot it, right?
[01:55] <kaenat> What do I need to install to get the man pages for the standard C lib? I've got libc6-dev installed, but that doesn't have the programming man pages.
[01:55] <Kyoske> can someone help me with installing?!
[01:55] <Kyoske> and u give ur time to help me?
[01:55] <amphi> Kyoske: you booted in rescue mode to install? can you be more clear?
[01:55] <Kyoske> no
[01:55] <Kyoske> i entered rescue mode
[01:56] <amphi> kaenat: manpages-dev
[01:56] <Kyoske> because i remember thats what someone said
[01:56] <kaenat> amphi: ty
[01:56] <kubus> zack_, they've the same commands. Hurm... if the path/filename was correct... it must go, sorry.
[01:56] <Kyoske> so thats what i did, because my comp was fking up and i had no idea what was happening
[01:56] <SpeEn> I'll try again, could anyone tell me what the latest version of dapper is as of now?
[01:56] <Kyoske> it kept saying insert boot media
[01:56] <Kyoske> insert boot media
[01:56] <richiefrich> amphi, right, i wounlder is i mkiso it?  or if i need to pass any flags
[01:56] <Kyoske> and i had no idea what to do
[01:56] <Sanne> watson540, hehe. It's always good to share knowledge :)
[01:57] <squidgy> Apparently, one of the packages I installed today is interfering with totem's rendering.  Is there a log of what was installed (via apt-get) and when?
[01:57] <zack_> kubus, if i just type "./NVIDIA*" it says "bash: ./(filename i downloaded).run: permission denied"
[01:57] <Kyoske> is anyone not going to not help me?
[01:57] <amphi> richiefrich: I don't think qemu can boot osx, as qemu emulates a 'normal' bios, and osx needs something else IIRC, not openfw any more...
[01:57] <SpeEn> exit
[01:57] <amphi> Kyoske: you are trying to install the boot loader, grub?
[01:57] <Kyoske> i dont know
[01:58] <Kyoske> its very confusing and i doubt u can help me
[01:58] <kubus> zack_, oh ok. then you must setz chmod. type: sudo chmod 777 /path/file.run
[01:58] <Kyoske> cuz u are helping everyone else too
[01:58] <kubus> -z
[01:58] <amphi> Kyoske: ok, what is your problem, exactly?
[01:58] <Bung> in wind0g i could open a big archive with winrar and look around and extract certain files... what can i use to do that in linux?
[01:58] <Kyoske> ok i installed ubunut to the extent of where it popped out my cd
[01:59] <zack_> kubus, i type the numbers 777 ?
[01:59] <Kyoske> and said it would restart
[01:59] <richiefrich> amphi, i thought it could, i'm not sure
[01:59] <amphi> Bung: mc deals with various archive types as 'virtual filesystems', dunno if can deal with rar
[01:59] <Kyoske> so i let it do its thing
[01:59] <amphi> Kyoske: and...
[01:59] <Kyoske> and then it came back on
[01:59] <richiefrich> amphi, but im going to DL  a disto iso
[01:59] <kubus> Bung, install rar unrar and unrar-nonfree and use fileroller...
[01:59] <richiefrich> amphi, and try that to test
[01:59] <Kyoske> asking for me to insert some type of boot media
[01:59] <Bung> ok thanks!
[01:59] <Kyoske> and it would wait 5 sec, and resend the text
[01:59] <amphi> Kyoske: is ubuntu all that's on this machine?
[01:59] <Kyoske> i couldnt type or do anything
[02:00] <Kyoske> no
[02:00] <kubus> zack_, yes you can.
[02:00] <Kyoske> im installing it onto my windows xp
[02:00] <Kyoske> ntfs
[02:00] <amphi> Kyoske: and you now can't boot windows either?
[02:00] <kubus> zack_, then everybody can execute or delete the file. for this try its ok.
[02:00] <Kyoske> i doubt that
[02:00] <Kyoske> i could try
[02:00] <Kyoske> but should i?
[02:01] <amphi> Kyoske: won't do any harm
[02:01] <amphi> Kyoske: it may well not work
[02:01] <SAM_theman> hey hommies
[02:01] <Kyoske> kay, cuz all i really want is ubuntu to work and its not working ><
[02:01] <darkelf> Oi kids
[02:01] <starkes> hey, has anyone here got vmware working on ubuntu?
[02:01] <zack_> kubus, what would be the path if i downloaded from lynx?
[02:01] <amphi> Kyoske: do you remember where you installed the ubuntu bootloader?
[02:01] <kubus> zack_, simple type "lynx" in the commandline :)
[02:02] <Bung> starkes, i could tell you, but then id have to kill you O.o
[02:02] <amphi> darkelf: now, now, shared libraries are _fun_ ;)
[02:02] <jvai> lol
[02:02] <Bung> seriously though, not me :)
[02:02] <darkelf> amphi, haha
[02:02] <pdaoust> hey, folks, does anyone know how to hardcode a network scanner into SANE? I think that adding the scanner address in the menu entry is a very inelegant solution, and besides, that doesn't fix the issue of the GIMP's acquire dialogue not being able to find the scanner.
[02:02] <Kyoske> um amphi
[02:02] <Kyoske> i dont realy now
[02:02] <james_> ok i have got the encoders i needed for dvd but now it wont work still
[02:02] <darkelf> amac, so are re-entrant libraries and badly profiled ones :P
[02:02] <Kyoske> im trying to get to my windows
[02:02] <Dyngo> is gplflash better than the macromedia flash?
[02:02] <james_> can someone help me
[02:03] <Kyoske> but all it pops up again is the text asking for proper boot device
[02:03] <amphi> darkelf: as someone said on the plan 9 list, "We don't do shared libraries, because we're the phone company and we don't care" ;)
[02:03] <SAM_theman> vmware no but is vmware good on ubuntu??
[02:03] <darkelf> amphi, plan9, HAH!
[02:03] <zack_> kubus, so i would type sudo chmod 777 /lynx/filename.run ?
[02:03] <starkes> vmware is good on anything if it works
[02:03] <Kyoske> crap crap crap crap
[02:03] <Doxedon> hi
[02:03] <starkes> im having a problem missing a header file called version.h
[02:04] <kubus> zack_, hu? no...
[02:04] <Kyoske> i cant get to my windows
[02:04] <amphi> Kyoske: don't worry, there are things to try ;)
[02:04] <Kyoske> amphi what do i do ><
[02:04] <james_> can anyone help me with my dvd
[02:04] <amphi> Kyoske: can you boot off the cd and get to a shell (text prompt)
[02:04] <amphi> ?
[02:04] <darkelf> amphi, I somewhat appreciate static libraries in jails / chroots ;)
[02:04] <Bung> i guess the old rm -rf / doesnt work in #ubuntu
[02:04] <starkes> does anyone know how i can get a version.h header file in my source directory? i need it to install vmware
[02:05] <kubus> zack_, lynx is a textbase browser, a good fallback variant. if you cant execute the nvidia-driver, then you must set the correct chmod only on this file. lynx has nothing to do with the driver.
[02:05] <Kyoske> yes i can get to a shell
[02:05] <darkelf> amphi, I was referring to... autotools and a configure script choking on dlopen... gotta fix my linker
[02:05] <und3rtug4> Hi there, anyone using/familiar with sqwebmail? My is given me an internal error, and just dont what it is, after 3 days (thats way to much time :S )
[02:05] <zack_> kubus, i used lynx to download the driver what would be directorty it saved to
[02:05] <jvai> james what version of ubuntu do u have? i'm on hoary & got dvd working w/ this - http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[02:05] <darkelf> amphi, mind you, I HATE autotools
[02:05] <james_> i am useing brezzy
[02:05] <james_> i think
[02:05] <jvai> & it works for wmv vids
[02:06] <kubus> zack_, ah ok. i think by deafult your homefolder
[02:06] <amphi> darkelf: in the course of reading a rant about dynamic v. static linking, someone claimed that current static linkers don't only link the bits of libs they need, they link in the whole lib, is that true? it seems incredible
[02:06] <shasbot> is there anyway to get more screen resolution options than the three i have now? i would like to use 1280*1024.
[02:06] <Kyoske> amphi, so i can get to a shell
[02:06] <zack_> kubus, /home/zack/filename.run ?
[02:06] <amphi> Kyoske: rejoice! ;)
[02:06] <Kyoske> should i do that in rescue or defaut installer?
[02:06] <james_> ok
[02:06] <HymnToLife> !tell shasbot about fixres
[02:06] <amphi> Kyoske: type whoami and tell me what it says
[02:06] <darkelf> amphi, you have to be shitting me... you're on the plan9 list and you don't know this?
[02:06] <darkelf> ?!
[02:06] <Kyoske> what?
[02:06] <Kyoske> whoami
[02:07] <Kyoske> lol
[02:07] <jvai> well, i dl'ed easyubuntu 1st, & THAT synced my repository w/ the french servers
[02:07] <kubus> zack_, if your local username is "zack", then youre right. but you can type: cd /home/zack
[02:07] <Kyoske> but can u walk me through this
[02:07] <Kyoske> im at the screen
[02:07] <kubus> zack_, then type: ls
[02:07] <T`> guys, i get different resolutions when i start xfce thru gdm vs. startx... anyone know how to solve this?
[02:07] <amphi> darkelf: in the olden days, linkers used to only pull in the bits they needed
[02:07] <Kyoske> where it has the boot:
[02:07] <Kyoske> and the little ubuntu logo at the top
[02:07] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/721578
[02:07] <Kyoske> what do i exactly do?
[02:07] <amphi> Kyoske: just hit enter and hope for the best ;)
[02:07] <SAM_theman> still get this error
[02:07] <shasbot> thanks hymntolife
[02:08] <Kyoske> wait
[02:08] <kubus> zack_, see the file?
[02:08] <Kyoske> but what was that about
[02:08] <Kyoske> who ami
[02:08] <zack_> kubus, it does not appear to be in /home/zack
[02:08] <Kyoske> and shell
[02:08] <darkelf> amphi, you got a browser? GOOGLE
[02:08] <SAM_theman> please help and heres the help I posted on lq(linuxquestions)---->http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2247097#post2247097
[02:08] <wegstar> debian packages should be able to be installed in Ubuntu?
[02:08] <amphi> Kyoske: you're not in a shell yet
[02:08] <Kyoske> i've clicked enter and hoped for the best 3 times now
[02:08] <darkelf> amphi, good ol' days my butt, I call BS :)
[02:08] <Kyoske> and i've gotten no where
[02:08] <amphi> *shrug*
[02:08] <jvai> james, hava looksee - http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[02:08] <Kyoske> ok
[02:08] <Kyoske> amphi
[02:08] <kubus> zack_, hurm. one second i watch on my pc.
[02:09] <Kyoske> it is chrcking all the cd-rom crap now
[02:09] <Kyoske> scanning*
[02:09] <darkelf> which reminds me, I'm in the wrong channel ;)
[02:09] <darkelf> later folks
[02:09] <amphi> Kyoske: do you get a shell when you do alt-f2?
[02:09] <Flannel> amphi: he's installing currently.
[02:09] <Kyoske> well i cant now
[02:09] <nickrud> SAM_theman, why are you compling alsa? the same version you're compiling is already in breezy
[02:09] <Kyoske> i've already started the scanning proceess
[02:10] <wims> Kyoshe you should be able to get a shell by typing rescue at the propmpt where you get the ubuntu logo
[02:10] <Kyoske> i've clicked enter and im on the go
[02:10] <Kyoske> wims a little too late for that
[02:10] <wims> Kyoske,  from the shell it might be possible to install grub again
[02:10] <Kyoske> im at the part where it says hostname enter
[02:10] <Kyoske> what is the point of that?
[02:10] <Kyoske> i've seen it several times but i dont understand why it is there
[02:10] <wims> the boot loader makes your computer boot
[02:11] <wims> makes it possible to choose either windows or linux
[02:11] <Kyoske> wims are u helping me or getting me more confused
[02:11] <Kyoske> cuz right now
[02:11] <Kyoske> i cant get to my windows
[02:12] <Kyoske> and i havent even got to linux yet
[02:12] <Xbox_guru> hello, how do I install Mozilla thunderbird from the tar.gz file
[02:12] <Xbox_guru> I already extracted the files
[02:12] <Kyoske> ok
[02:12] <Xbox_guru> I just need to know how to install it
[02:12] <Kyoske> help crap i got to a shell
[02:12] <Kyoske> plz help me out here
[02:12] <NoUse> !tell Xbox_guru about tb1.5
[02:12] <wims> Kyoske, didn't your computer freeze on linux install? if so i think it might be possible to at least be able to get into windows by installing grub
[02:12] <nickrud> SAM_theman, does lsmod | grep snd_pcm_oss have any output?
[02:12] <Kyoske> no
[02:13] <Kyoske> nothing froze?!?
[02:13] <Kyoske> who is this guy wims?
[02:13] <Kyoske> everything he says isnt helping me at all
[02:13] <wims> Kyoske,  well never mind, i guess i'm confusing you with someone else
[02:13] <NoUse> Kyoske do you get any kind of menu when the computer starts?
[02:13] <und3rtug4> Xbox_guru: ./configure or some crap like that, just read the README file or crawl the web ;)
[02:13] <Kyoske> yes
[02:14] <Kyoske> it has this wierd little symbol
[02:14] <Kyoske> nouse, and in about 5 seconds of pressing enter
[02:14] <kubus> zack_, i dont find the test file ive downloaded with lynx oO i dont understand that...
[02:14] <Kyoske> it askes me for a proper boot device
[02:14] <zack_> kubus, hehe interesting
[02:14] <Kyoske> and keeps repearting over and over
[02:14] <kubus> zack_, yes it is hehe
[02:15] <NoUse> Kyoske sounds like a messed up boot sector
[02:15] <Kyoske> right now i just want to get to windows
[02:15] <Kyoske> but it wont let me
[02:15] <Kyoske> ok nouse
[02:15] <amphi> Kyoske: you need to reinstall the bootloader
[02:15] <Kyoske> can u help me while im inside the shell
[02:15] <NoUse> Kyoske you have a windows CD handy?
[02:15] <Kyoske> shayt!
[02:15] <squidgy> Hi.  Video playback under totem is displaying the wrong colors.  Anyone have a clue how to fix this?  If not, does anyone have a suggestion on where I should ask?
[02:15] <Kyoske> is all my stuff destroyed?
[02:15] <amphi> Kyoske: do what wims said, type rescue at the boot: prompt
[02:16] <Kyoske> i have no f-ing cle what prompt means
[02:16] <amphi> Kyoske: no, your stuff should all be still there
[02:16] <Kyoske> clue*
[02:16] <Kyoske> thats relief -_-;;
[02:16] <amphi> must... not... pick... up... bat... ;)
[02:16] <Kyoske> just plz help me
[02:16] <Kyoske> im in reall need of help and not judgement of my noobishness
[02:17] <amphi> Kyoske: when you boot off a cd, you get a little prompt 'boot:', right?
[02:17] <nickrud> Kyoske, you need to really slow down, read what people say
[02:17] <kubus> zack_, this file doesnt exist *lol*
[02:17] <Kyoske> yes
[02:17] <Kyoske> it says boot:
[02:17] <amphi> Kyoske: so, when you get that, try typing rescue and hit enter
[02:17] <Who_> Kyoske: that is the 'boot prompt'
[02:17] <Kyoske> and that is when i either [enter]  or type rescue
[02:17] <Kyoske> ok thank you
[02:17] <Kyoske> i just need people to work with me here
[02:18] <Kyoske> but listen
[02:18] <kubus> zack_, you cant use nvidia-glx drivers?
[02:18] <Who_> Kyoske: we all seem to be doing that!
[02:18] <Kyoske> im in a shell right now
[02:18] <zack_> kubus, well then this is very interesting
[02:18] <Kyoske> not rescue
[02:18] <Kyoske> but regular install
[02:18] <whiter> kyoske what are you trying to do
[02:18] <amphi> Kyoske: what does echo #SHELL say?
[02:18] <Kyoske> can i restart to go back to the boot prompt
[02:18] <kubus> zack_, yes i dont understand that...
[02:18] <Kyoske> um..
[02:18] <zack_> kubus, i dont know, the ones ubuntu installed wouldnt let me view x at all
[02:18] <Kyoske> i see
[02:18] <amphi> Kyoske: sorry, echo $SHELL
[02:18] <Who_> okay, well, what happened when you type rescue?
[02:18] <Kyoske> busybox v1.00\
[02:19] <amphi> Kyoske: cool
[02:19] <Kyoske> cool? =\
[02:19] <zack_> kubus, well not at all becuase i could see all these random color but there was no image i could make out
[02:19] <Kyoske> so u have an idea of where im at?
[02:19] <amphi> Kyoske: you really are in a shell now ;)
[02:19] <Kyoske> ok
[02:19] <Kyoske> thats good
[02:19] <Kyoske> i think
[02:19] <Kyoske> what do i do next
[02:19] <amphi> Kyoske: what partition did you install ubuntu on?
[02:19] <Kyoske> crap
[02:19] <Kyoske> i dont really friggin now
[02:19] <amphi> Kyoske: ?
[02:20] <kubus> zack_, ok for GForce 440 and greater you can use nvidia-glx. This driver have 3D acceleration and i play doom3 on it ;)
[02:20] <Kyoske> i just let it do itself manually
[02:20] <amphi> Kyoske: how many harddisks do you have?
[02:20] <Kyoske> i only have C:
[02:20] <zack_> kubus, ok so what do i do now then?
[02:20] <Kyoske> ooooooo
[02:20] <Kyoske> thats what u mean
[02:20] <Kyoske> srry
[02:20] <Kyoske> i put it on C:
[02:20] <kubus> zack_, ok go in the commandline and type: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:20] <zack_> ok
[02:20] <amphi> Kyoske: ok; do fdisk -l /dev/hda and pastebin it
[02:21] <Kyoske> what =0
[02:21] <Kyoske> type in
[02:21] <Kyoske> "fdisk -1
[02:21] <amphi> Kyoske: no
[02:21] <AngryElf> dvdrip question: anyone ripped a lot of dvds with it and know a minimum setting for xvid that gives dvd quality?
[02:21] <kubus> zack_, then type: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:21] <Kyoske> no then i have no idea what to do
[02:21] <kubus> zack_, thats all.
[02:21] <und3rtug4> Hi there, anyone using/familiar with sqwebmail? My is given me an internal error, and just dont what it is, after 3 days (thats way to much time :S )
[02:21] <AngryElf> minimum manual bpp setting?
[02:22] <zack_> kubus, once its done downloading i can just start gnome?
[02:22] <pepperpot> I wrote a document in emacs with auto-fill-mode. How do I remove the linefeeds so that I can import it in openoffice?
[02:22] <Kyoske> how doi do fdisk -1 /dev/hda and pastebin it
[02:22] <wims> Kyoske,  just type fdisk -l /dev/hda
[02:23] <Kyoske> but amphi said no
[02:23] <kubus> zack_, Xorg have a default driver named "nv" for nvidia cards. If you have any problems to start X you can alway open your X config file and cance the driver under the section device to this.
[02:23] <amphi> Kyoske: do 'mkdir mnt' without quotes
[02:23] <wims> then you type the output into pastebin and gives us the URL to that pastebin entry
[02:23] <wims> so we can try to find out which partition you installed linux on
[02:23] <Kyoske> wait what do i do
[02:23] <Kyoske> wims or amhpi
[02:23] <kubus> zack_, normaly, after you have installed nvidia-glx and enabled it, you can start gnome and X without problems.
[02:23] <Xbox_guru> how do I add thunderbird to my applications list?
[02:23] <amphi> wims: I'm guessing hda2 - if it's swap, it won't mount
[02:23] <zack_> kubus, i love you
[02:24] <Kyoske> cuz i already typed in fdisk -1 /dev/hda
[02:24] <dli> where are the file for the gnome menu entry "Root Terminal (gksu)"?
[02:24] <amphi> Kyoske: it should be a lowercase L
[02:24] <amphi> Kyoske: not 1
[02:24] <kubus> zack_, oh nice, no problem :)
[02:24] <Kyoske> shoot
[02:24] <zack_> kubus, i thank you so much!!!!!!!
[02:24] <james_xxx> good evening/guten abend
[02:24] <Kyoske> kks rry
[02:25] <Kyoske> its retyped
[02:25] <zack_> kubus, how can i add higher resolutions?
[02:25] <Kyoske> and stuff started a flowwin
[02:25] <amphi> Kyoske: you'll probably see three partitions, one windows, one linux, and one linux swap - what is the linux one called? hda?
[02:25] <amphi> Kyoske: the windows one should hda1
[02:25] <james_xxx> i was wondering if someone could help me with an install of firefox 1.5
[02:25] <kubus> zack_, you need your correct Monitor spezifications, vertical and horizontal refreshrate
[02:26] <kubus> zack_, then close x and open the X config tool with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:26] <Kyoske> no i have many partitions
[02:26] <Kyoske> and all these same files dev/hda1
[02:26] <Kyoske> dev/hda2
[02:26] <Kyoske> dev/hda3
[02:26] <gnosticapex> Xbox_Guru: applications->add applications->internet->more programs-> check Thunderbird and it'll add it to your applications list, I think >.>
[02:26] <Kyoske> dev/hda5
[02:26] <amphi> Kyoske: which is the linux one?
[02:26] <squidgy> james_xxx: You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:26] <Kyoske> dev/hda2
[02:26] <Kyoske> dev/hda5 is the swap though
[02:27] <zack_> kubus, how do i leave x?
[02:27] <Kyoske> dev/hda2  is the linux
[02:27] <james_xxx> squidgy, i am at that page and don't understand the directions lol
[02:27] <kubus> zack_, if you should chooce the driver, take "nvidia" not "nv". "nv" iss only a fallback driver, nvidia iss the nvidia-glx driver with 3D.
[02:27] <amphi> Kyoske: what is hda3 then?
[02:27] <Kyoske> extended
[02:27] <james_xxx> squidgy,  it says "#
[02:27] <james_xxx> #
[02:27] <james_xxx> Download firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz from [WWW]  http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ , and change to the directory you downloaded it to.
[02:27] <james_xxx> "
[02:27] <amphi> Kyoske: ok - did you do 'mkdir mnt'? if not, do it
[02:28] <james_xxx> how do i "change  to the directory i downloaded it to"?
[02:28] <dli> !ff1.5
[02:28] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:28] <amphi> Kyoske: done?
[02:28] <james_> can someone help me with getting my dvd player to work
[02:28] <Kyoske> mkdir mnt dent do anything
[02:28] <kubus> zack_, other points are per default ok, dont chance anything. later they ask for Monitor details, there you choose "advanced" and type in your correct refresh rates.
[02:28] <Who_> james_ - what is the problem?
[02:28] <Kyoske> i typed it in
[02:28] <Kyoske> entered it
[02:28] <james_> i loaded the lib and codecs
[02:28] <Kyoske> but nothing happened
[02:28] <james_> but my player still wont play
[02:28] <amphi> Kyoske: so cd mnt
[02:28] <james_> i load the dvd and nothing
[02:28] <james_> so i am lost
[02:28] <gnosticapex> xbox_guru: get it added? o.0
[02:29] <kubus> zack_, thats all. You can start and stop your gdm with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" or "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[02:29] <squidgy> james_xxx:  you can do this from within nautilus or from the terminal.
[02:29] <james_> i am still new to linux but i do know how to read wiki's
[02:29] <amphi> Kyoske: type 'cd mnt' without quotes, and hit enter
[02:29] <gnosticapex> xbox_guru: not sure if thats what you were asking :P
[02:29] <Who_> okiedokie :)
[02:29] <squidgy> james_xxx:  what did you use to download it?
[02:29] <Kyoske> ok
[02:29] <Kyoske> i entered it
[02:29] <amphi> Kyoske: we're nearly there ;)
[02:29] <james_> Who_: so can you help me
[02:29] <Kyoske> yes!
[02:29] <kubus> zack_, oh have you a tft monitor?
[02:29] <amphi> Kyoske: what does pwd say?
[02:29] <james_xxx> squidgy, i am not sure what nautilus is, and i don't know how to do it from the terminal. i downloaded the firefox file to my desktop
[02:29] <Kyoske> what i think ur talking about
[02:29] <Kyoske> it says
[02:29] <squidgy> james_xxx:  do you have a windows background?
[02:29] <james_xxx> squidgy, i am newbie to the extreme
[02:30] <Kyoske> "/mnt # "
[02:30] <amphi> james_xxx: you are not alone ;)
[02:30] <Who_> james_ - I hope so,
[02:30] <Kyoske> is that what ur talking about?
[02:30] <james_xxx> squidgy,  i have the KDE desktop if that is what you mean
[02:30] <Kyoske> "/mnt # "
[02:30] <james_> Who_: ok so what do i need to do
[02:30] <amphi> Kyoske: yup, just making sure you're were I think you are ;)
[02:30] <Who_> james_: which wiki page have you already followed?
[02:30] <Kyoske> good good
[02:30] <james_> holdo n i wil get you the link
[02:30] <james_xxx> amphi, it appears so lol
[02:31] <Kyoske> even though i have no idea what is happeneing it feels like progress, and i thank you for it
[02:31] <Who_> james_: also, are we talking Breezy or Dapper?
[02:31] <squidgy> james_xxx:  nautilus is the name of the file browser under the gnome desktop, similar to windows explorer.  I don't know what the equivalent is under KDE.
[02:31] <james_> Who_: breezy
[02:31] <james_> Who_: here is the link http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[02:31] <Kyoske> so now all i neeed now is my next guide..
[02:31] <amphi> Kyoske: now's the fun bit :) type 'chroot . /bin/bash' without quotes and hit enter
[02:32] <Mitsurugi> How do you install Java? the whole folder is sitting on my desktop
[02:32] <Kyoske> add the spaces as well?
[02:32] <Xbox_guru> gnosticapex, no i didn't, I even made it the default mail application
[02:32] <Kyoske> what will bin bash do?
[02:32] <squidgy> james_xxx:  at any rate, you downloaded a .tar.gz file, which is a file archive.  You need to extract the files from the archive, which will create a directory.
[02:32] <james_xxx> squidgy, how would i "change to the directory you downloaded it to" in the terminal window?
[02:32] <amphi> Kyoske: exactly as I typed it
[02:32] <Toma-> ubotu: tell Mitsurugi about javadebs
[02:32] <Kyoske> and what will that do?
[02:32] <Xbox_guru> you have to edit the menu
[02:32] <Who_> james: - cool, have you seen that I have tried to set up a conversation with just you so we don't fill the main room with our conversation?
[02:32] <james_xxx> squidgy, ok so now that it is on my desktop, i should just extract it?
[02:33] <Kyoske> crap
[02:33] <Kyoske> it wont execute
[02:33] <gnosticapex> Xbox_Guru: Dunno then, if you used add application it should've added it to your menu under Internet >.> :\
[02:33] <Kyoske> it says there is no such file
[02:33] <Kyoske> or directory
[02:33] <amphi> Kyoske: it will change the root of your filesystem to the root of your ubuntu install, and run the shell (I hope)
[02:33] <gnosticapex> Don't know if theres a command to add to your app menu through terminal
[02:33] <james_xxx> squidgy, i have tried to extract it from  the terminal window, but it tell me that the file does not exist
[02:33] <squidgy> james_xxx:  yes, extract the files from the archive.  They will all be under a single main directory when extracted.
[02:33] <Kyoske> it didnt work though ><
[02:33] <amphi> Kyoske: pfft; try just 'chroot .'
[02:34] <squidgy> james_xxx:  the command to change directory is 'cd'.  So, if you wanted to change directory to Desktop, you would type 'cd Desktop' from the prompt.
[02:34] <high-freq> anyone know kernel lines...like turning off apic
[02:34] <amphi> high-freq: noapic
[02:34] <high-freq> ok noapic
[02:34] <amphi> high-freq: and.or nolapic
[02:34] <high-freq> hopefully that works
[02:34] <high-freq> is that same as acpi
[02:34] <T`> guys, i get different resolutions when i start xfce thru gdm vs. startx... anyone know how to solve this?
[02:34] <james_> Who_: r u still there
[02:34] <amphi> high-freq: no
[02:34] <Kyoske> when i type in chroot . it still says no
[02:34] <high-freq> k
[02:34] <Kyoske> file or directory
[02:35] <high-freq> well is there somethin in kernel  for apic?
[02:35] <squidgy> But you can probably extract files without needing a terminal prompt, just by double-clicking the .tar.gz file on the desktop, you will be presented with a user-interface for a file extractor.
[02:35] <Kyoske> >< why is it always me
[02:35] <amphi> Kyoske: what do you get if you type chroot alone?
[02:35] <Kyoske> some
[02:35] <high-freq> nm..i'll just search the kernel for it ;)
[02:35] <Kyoske> text
[02:35] <squidgy> james_xxx:  But you can probably extract files without needing a terminal prompt, just by double-clicking the .tar.gz file on the desktop, you will be presented with a user-interface for a file extractor.
[02:35] <Who_> james_: yea, just looking at the link you sent me! I have to keep my eye on an ebay auction for the next 8 minutes too :P
[02:35] <Kyoske> here lemme tell u what it says
[02:35] <amphi> Kyoske: the universe is a consoiracy to annoy you
[02:35] <amphi> Kyoske: please do ;)
[02:35] <james_> Who_: that is cool
[02:35] <Kyoske> it tells me
[02:35] <Kyoske> the same information like
[02:35] <james_> would it be easier to just to a remote link to me and jus tlet you check my cfg files
[02:35] <Kyoske> busybox ver1.00
[02:36] <Kyoske> multi cell binary
[02:36] <Who_> james_: you followed that to the letter, or just installed some packages?
[02:36] <james_xxx> squidgy, yes, i have done that now, and i have the extracted file on my desktop... what next?
[02:36] <james_> to the letter
[02:36] <Kyoske> then it says
[02:36] <amphi> Kyoske: just the error message
[02:36] <Kyoske> Usage: chroot newroot (commands..)
[02:36] <squidgy> james_xxx:  sorry.  I didn't realize that the wiki page gives instructions for extracting the files.  SO, you will need a terminal prompt after all.
[02:37] <iiiears> Hello! - What file controls the keyboard shortcuts modifier app?
[02:37] <Kyoske> =(
[02:37] <james_xxx> squidgy,  yikes
[02:37] <Who_> james_: could you look at this too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-cd84b8e23927ccdb4bb55ffd3074687abec0cf3b
[02:37] <Kyoske> so what now amphi?
[02:37] <amphi> Kyoske: and what happens if you do 'chroot .' ?
[02:37] <james_> I am gona look at it now
[02:37] <squidgy> james_xxx:  So, once you open the terminal, type 'cd Desktop'.  From there, you can follow the next step in the wiki, which is to type 'sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz'
[02:37] <james_> what are you watching on ebay
[02:37] <james_xxx> squidgy,  i just got stuck in the instructions where it says to "change to the directory you downloaded it to"
[02:37] <Kyoske> it says i cannot execute
[02:38] <NoUse> amphi I don't think you chroot into your cwd
[02:38] <squidgy> james_xxx:  are you able to get a terminal, where you can type commands?
[02:38] <amphi> NoUse: 'real' chroot can, perhaps busybox can't?
[02:38] <djtansey> has anyone here installed chinese input support in ubuntu? i'm having the damndest time (with dapper)
[02:38] <Kyoske> then what can i do to get anything done?
[02:38] <amphi> Kyoske: try 'cd ..' and then 'chroot mnt'
[02:38] <NoUse> Kyoske if you're immediate goal is getting into Windows, you can just boot off your windows CD and when it says "press any key to boot from hard drive" press a key and it will find Windows and boot it
[02:38] <james_xxx> squidgy, yes, your cd Desktop command is what i was looking for, thank you!
[02:38] <Kyoske> wait what?
[02:38] <Who_> james_: Digital camera (probably best to keep mainly to support if we're gonna stay in the main room)
[02:38] <iiiears> Hi crimsun :)  (I owe you a huge thank you for helping me through the transition to Ubuntu - THANK YOU> )
[02:38] <Kyoske> cd ..
[02:39] <Kyoske> then chroot mnt
[02:39] <amphi> Kyoske: yup
[02:39] <james_> Who_: I looked at that link
[02:39] <Kyoske> or all at once?
[02:39] <crimsun> iiiears: don't mention it :-)
[02:39] <gnosticapex> xbox_guru: ill search around and see if I can find anything to help you :o
[02:39] <james_> and i have the newest version
[02:39] <amphi> Kyoske: cd .. [enter]  then chroot mnt [enter]
[02:39] <Kyoske> still cant execute ><
[02:39] <Kyoske> ><
[02:39] <Kyoske> ><
[02:39] <rpedro_> !gamin
[02:39] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rpedro_
[02:39] <NoUse> Kyoske did you install Ubuntu for 64bit OSs?
[02:40] <Kyoske> i have no clue
[02:40] <NoUse> Kyoske well which CD did you download?
[02:40] <amphi> Kyoske: that's the exact error?
[02:40] <squidgy> james_xxx:  so now you should be able to type 'sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz' and proceed with the wiki instructions.  The 'tar' command with the -z option is how you extract files from a .tar.gz file.
[02:40] <Kyoske> the one where u download of the ubuntu site
[02:40] <Kyoske> then i burned the image on to a cd
[02:40] <NoUse> Kyoske there are 3 on that site
[02:40] <james_> Who_: still working with the link you sent me
[02:40] <NoUse> Kyoske x86, 64bit and PPC
[02:40] <james_> I will let you know how it pans out
[02:40] <amphi> Kyoske: what was the _exact_ error message?
[02:41] <Who_> james_: I guess you are tring some off the things the wiki pages suggest...
[02:41] <iiiears> Use a bittorent to grab the iso if you can. :)
[02:41] <Kyoske> i dont know nouse
[02:41] <james_xxx> squidgy, i think i am getting it now
[02:41] <Kyoske> amphi it says
[02:41] <SAM_theman> ho ho i am installing steam right now
[02:41] <amphi> Kyoske: just the message, no preamble ;)
[02:41] <Kyoske> cannot execute /bin/sh
[02:41] <iiiears> Steam on Ubuntu - Wow
[02:41] <Kyoske> no such file or directory
[02:42] <amphi> Kyoske: ok; now try 'chroot mnt /bin/bash' and press enter
[02:42] <Kyoske> thats what it says
[02:42] <Who_> james_: Generally, I would look for support on the Ubuntu Wiki before going elsewhere...
[02:42] <james_> Who_: also i am using totem player for the plater
[02:42] <NoUse> amphi something is wrong, /bin/sh should be there, I don't think mnt is mounted properly
[02:42] <Kyoske> nothin
[02:42] <hok> how to install a new distro in ubuntu
[02:42] <Kyoske> same error message
[02:42] <Kyoske> except this time
[02:42] <Who_> james_: cool, do you know whether it is totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[02:42] <amphi> NoUse: yeah, it should be a symlink to /bin/bash
[02:42] <Kyoske> instead of /bin/sh it said /bin/bash
[02:42] <NoUse> Kyoske do 'ls mnt'
[02:43] <djtansey> anyone here use chinese input in dapper?
[02:43] <Who_> hok: is that a question for us?
[02:43] <Kyoske> ok
[02:43] <james_> ahhh nope I do not know it is the one that comes with ubuntu
[02:43] <Kyoske> but what did that do?
[02:43] <amphi> Kyoske: what indeed?
[02:43] <iiiears> !scim
[02:43] <NoUse> Kyoske did it output anything?
[02:43] <ubotu> hmm... scim is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[02:43] <Kyoske> nothign
[02:43] <Kyoske> ls mnt
[02:43] <amphi> NoUse: ;)
[02:43] <Kyoske> nothing happened
[02:43] <james_xxx> squidgy, awsome! i have firefox 1.5 up and running now.... now you can help me get my linksys wireless working! LOL
[02:43] <Who_> james_:okay, that would be totem-gstreamer, if my memory serves me correctly
[02:43] <james_xxx> just kidding
[02:43] <kbrooks> Kyoske: ?
[02:44] <Kyoske> kbrookes: what?
[02:44] <kbrooks> Kyoske: ls mnt should output something
[02:44] <james_> Who_: ok it still is not running right
[02:44] <richiefrich> amphi, they say i cant but i saw a video that they booted Mac OSX :(
[02:44] <Kyoske> ls mnt didnt do anything
[02:44] <squidgy> james_xxx:  actually, I might be able to help.  I have a linksys WRT54G wireless router myself.
[02:44] <james_> It wont even play
[02:44] <amphi> Kyoske: does mount show /dev/hda2 mounted on /mnt? just type 'mount' and hit enter
[02:44] <kbrooks> Kyoske: did it even say anything?
[02:44] <james_xxx> squidgy, woa... maybe you could help, then
[02:44] <Kyoske> no
[02:44] <Kyoske> it just went down a line
[02:44] <iiiears> Kyoske - "mount" to list partitions used?
[02:44] <Who_> james_: so nbow you have followed the steps in the wiki and you don't get the dvd to play?
[02:44] <james_xxx> squidgy, i have killed myself trying to get thins thing to work
[02:44] <james_> correct
[02:45] <amphi> Kyoske: please use nicks so we know what/who you're answering
[02:45] <Who_> james_:can you describe what happens, do you get any error messages?
[02:45] <james_> nope no error message I open totem and then click play jarhead and it just wont play
[02:45] <Kyoske> ok ok
[02:45] <Kyoske> amphi: ok
[02:45] <james_> I think something is loaded wrong and I am not sure
[02:46] <dmbt>  im having  large problem with the ubuntu sources
[02:46] <amphi> Kyoske: does mount show /dev/hda2 mounted?
[02:46] <dmbt> drivers/built-in.o:(.bss+0x13874): multiple definition of `debug'
[02:46] <dmbt> arch/i386/kernel/built-in.o:: first defined here
[02:46] <james_xxx> squidgy,  what i would really like to get to work is a linksys usb network adapter... WUSB54GS
[02:46] <dmbt> drivers/built-in.o: In function `dump_stack':
[02:46] <dmbt> : multiple definition of `dump_stack'
[02:46] <dmbt> compile error
[02:46] <kbrooks> Kyoske: type "mount". what does it say for /dev/hda2 ?
[02:46] <james_> i have the two codecs that i am supposed to have from that other page. so i am lost
[02:46] <Who_> james_: it shouldn't be necessary on Ubuntu, but have you tried restarting since you did all the things listed?
[02:46] <dmbt> anyone know how to fix?
[02:46] <kbrooks> dmbt: DO, NOT PASTE
[02:46] <high-freq> is thre a turn on for pcmcia slot?
[02:46] <amphi> Kyoske: type 'mount' and press enter, I beseech you ;)
[02:46] <high-freq> errr....to turn it on or somethin?
[02:46] <james_> the only thing i can think of is to do a remote link..let me restart. you gona be here when i get back
[02:46] <Kyoske> amphi: it said nothing about /dev/hda2
[02:46] <high-freq> or i just slap in card and its on...if i load module
[02:46] <squidgy> james_xxx:  unfortunately, that's beyond my experience too.  I am little more than a newbie myself.
[02:47] <kbrooks> Kyoske: mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
[02:47] <amphi> Kyoske: ok, do 'mount /dev/hda2 mnt'
[02:47] <Who_> james_: I may well restart into breezy(I'm on Dapper now) so I can give you better advice :)
[02:47] <Who_> james_:see you in 5 minutes :)
[02:47] <Kyoske> amphi: kbrooks has a / on the mnt
[02:47] <james_xxx> squidgy, ok.... you were a big help with firefox
[02:47] <james_> do you want me AIM or Yahoo name
[02:47] <kbrooks> Kyoske: that's ok. you're in /
[02:47] <amphi> Kyoske: and then try 'chroot mnt /bin/bash' again
[02:47] <james_> so you can get in contact with me
[02:47] <iiiears> Hi kbrooks! - Thanks for your help with Ubuntu. :)
[02:48] <Who_> james_:neither is great - are you using xchat - we could just have a private chat on IRC
[02:48] <kbrooks> iiiears: how did i help? :-)
[02:48] <squidgy> james_xxx:  No problem.  Good luck with your wireless.
[02:48] <james_> yes i am useing xchat
[02:48] <iiiears> You answered A LOT of questions. - Glad you are here.
[02:48] <james_> I will be useing this username (w1jrm)
[02:48] <Who_> James_:can you see that I have started a private conversation (for me it is on the left hand side)
[02:48] <Kyoske> amphi: hold the phone here
[02:48] <amphi> phone?
[02:48] <DarkAura> where is gcc on ubuntu??!!
[02:49] <DarkAura> hehe
[02:49] <james_> i dont see it
[02:49] <kbrooks> DarkAura:
[02:49] <amphi> DarkAura: /usr/bin
[02:49] <kbrooks> !build-essential
[02:49] <ubotu> it has been said that build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[02:49] <Kyoske> amphi: i did your way without the "/" and nothing happened, then i did kbrooks way, and some text popped up
[02:49] <Who_> okay, it's probbably different on Dapper! see you son with new username :)
[02:49] <kbrooks> Kyoske: what did it say?
[02:49] <iiiears> Darkaura - build-essential should give you it.
[02:49] <DarkAura> i see - ty both
[02:49] <amphi> Kyoske: if things work, they say nothing
[02:50] <james_> ok be rightback
[02:50] <Kyoske> kbrooks: it said couldnt do it because it device or resourse was busy
[02:50] <Who_> sory, see you soon
[02:50] <Blake79> Hey!  I just installed the CD and followed instructions.  My hda1 is saying i don't have rights to open?
[02:50] <iiiears> Darkaura - building/compiling a kernel or do you need an IDE also? anjuta is a decent IDE
[02:50] <DarkAura> is there any other packages on the cd i can install?
[02:50] <Blake79> I want to bring both HD's as repositories?
[02:50] <Kyoske> amphi: nothing is working well
[02:50] <amphi> Kyoske: now 'ls mnt' should show you files and directories
[02:50] <kbrooks> amphi: don't assume
[02:50] <DarkAura> just compiling some source
[02:50] <amphi> kbrooks: ;)
[02:50] <Kyoske> amphi: should i add some "/"?
[02:51] <Kyoske> WOOT
[02:51] <kbrooks> amphi: you should have stopped when Kyoske erported the error
[02:51] <kbrooks> Kyoske: what? :-)
[02:51] <Kyoske> amphi: text appeared
[02:51] <kbrooks> Kyoske: what text?
[02:51] <Kyoske> BIN, BOOT CDROM, AND DEV
[02:51] <Kyoske> boot, cdrom*
[02:51] <Blake79> how do i gain access to hard drive from OS?  ask ubotu?
[02:51] <Kyoske> and then more text after all those
[02:52] <Kyoske> etc, home, blah blah blah
[02:52] <hok> see dum yat go yam dak ngo la
[02:52] <Kyoske> amphi:
[02:52] <Kyoske> amphi: what is to be done now?
[02:52] <kbrooks> Blake79:
[02:52] <kbrooks> !fstab
[02:52] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[02:52] <hok> suem la
[02:53] <Kyoske> amphi: hello =\
[02:53] <kbrooks> amphi_: ping
[02:53] <Kyoske> kbrooks: wat do i do next?
[02:53] <Blake79> paste this into terminal?
[02:53] <kbrooks> Kyoske: what was your original problem in the first place
[02:53] <iiiears> Blake - there is a nice bash script out there to edit the fstab file auto-magically. "diskmounter" or "winmac_fstab" same script different names.  written by Seveas
[02:54] <Kyoske> i couldnt start windows after installing ubuntu
[02:54] <kbrooks> iiiears: which !fstab linked to
[02:54] <Kyoske> kbrooks: i couldnt start windows after installing ubuntu
[02:54] <iiiears> (blush) - erm, Okay
[02:54] <Blake79> kbrooks, it is on my desktop, it says i don't have sufficient rights?
[02:54] <kbrooks> Kyoske: well, you will be able to. now type "chroot . /bin/bash"
[02:54] <amphi> kbrooks: rural dialup fell over ;)
[02:54] <Kyoske> kk
[02:54] <Kyoske> that will work?
[02:54] <kbrooks> Kyoske: but first cd to mnt
[02:55] <kbrooks> "cd mnt"
[02:55] <kbrooks> without the quotes
[02:55] <Kyoske> YAY!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:55] <DarkAura> is libncurses available on the cd ?
[02:55] <kbrooks> iiiears: hilight me next time ;)
[02:55] <Kyoske> kbrooks: worked it did!!
[02:55] <patch> do Somebody know how activated the win key ?
[02:55] <Who_> wow, Kyoske, that is good to see :)
[02:55] <iiiears> heh - will do.
[02:55] <Kyoske> amphi: it working
[02:55] <Kyoske> well
[02:55] <crimsun> DarkAura: do you mean libncurses5-dev?
[02:55] <Kyoske> not installing
[02:56] <Kyoske> but what do i do next?@?
[02:56] <iiiears> This is the best channel on the 'Net
[02:56] <Blake79> are there any other help channels for new users?
[02:56] <amphi> Kyoske: now to install the bootloader; try 'grub-install /dev/hda'
[02:56] <evilelf> amphi, now I'm flustered as I come from a BSD/Solaris/AIX environment with the linker
[02:56] <Kyoske> amphi: i will try that!!
[02:56] <DarkAura> i dont think so  -- i am getting an error while trying to comp. : configure: error: Unable to find libncurses or libcurses
[02:56] <kbrooks> Blake79: not treally. there is no seperate "newbie" channel for ubuntu
[02:56] <delmar> how come evolution sometimes puts my sent mail in my inbox folder....
[02:57] <amphi> evilelf: flustered?
[02:57] <Kyoske> amphi:  0.0
[02:57] <Blake79> Kbrooks, it is a user rights issue to access my HD, but i have all the rights?  Is it something on the windows side?
[02:57] <Kyoske> amphi:  Q.Q
[02:57] <timmy_> hi folks
[02:57] <evilelf> amphi, I've checked ldconfig and it did map libdl.so.2 -> libdl-2.3.5.so, why in the hell isn't it detecting (on top of adding library directories to ./configure and setting environment variables LDFLAGS/CPPFLAGS) dlopen
[02:57] <amphi> Kyoske: parser failure
[02:57] <Kyoske> amphi:  it doesnt recocgnize grub-install
[02:57] <timmy_> has anyone worked with dapper and a dell 710M
[02:57] <evilelf> amphi, confused
[02:57] <timmy_> I am having troubles with the wifi
[02:57] <kbrooks> Blake79: linux side only. pease use the script linked to in the !fstab factoid
[02:58] <Blake79> i pasted it into terminal?
[02:58] <kbrooks> Blake79: tha is not "using" it. it needs to get onto your system first. :-)
[02:58] <Kyoske> amphi:  it didnt work, was there a typo or somthing?
[02:58] <kbrooks> Kyoske: no...
[02:58] <patch> I can't use the windows key on my keyboard !
[02:58] <kbrooks> Kyoske: show us the error message?
[02:58] <Kyoske> kbrooks: ok
[02:59] <patch> HELP ME !!!
[02:59] <Who_> patch: I am waiting for someone I have promised to help, but I can give you a moment
[02:59] <proconsul> I must say the wifitroubleshootingguide is top notch!
[02:59] <proconsul> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide
[02:59] <Kyoske> bash: grub-install: comman not found
[02:59] <Kyoske> command*
[02:59] <iiiears> Blake79 - The script needs to be marked as "executable" you can use the desktop and modify permissions tab with a right click or chmod +x /path/to/script/diskmounter"
[02:59] <amphi> evilelf: ghod knows - can you not just clobber the check in the configure script? ;
[03:00] <Kyoske> kbrooks: thats what it said
[03:00] <kbrooks> Kyoske: echo $PATH. Does it have "/usr/bin" in there?
[03:00] <patch> Thank's a lot Who_ I'll waiting
[03:00] <Who_> patch: open a terminal and start 'xev' (without the quotes'
[03:00] <Kyoske> tpye in echo $path?
[03:00] <kbrooks> Kyoske: oops, I mean "/sbin"
[03:00] <amphi> Kyoske: try '/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda' perhaps
[03:00] <patch> Who_: ok
[03:01] <evilelf> amphi, it seems fine... note, to answer your earlier question, the behavior is the same... it resolves the symbols it needs
[03:01] <W1JRM> Who_: are you here
[03:01] <evilelf> amphi, and includes them in the object
[03:01] <intelikey> {0..0}
[03:01] <Kyoske> amphi: no its not working
[03:01] <Who_> patch: yes: now activate the 'Event Tester' window
[03:01] <evilelf> amphi, I did... seems fine
[03:01] <amphi> evilelf: that's what I thought, but someone claimed that the entire library was linked in...
[03:01] <Who_> and push your windows key. see if the terminal does anything
[03:01] <Blake79> kbrooks, almost there.  I saved onto desktop as a shell script. but when i ran through Terminal it said no directory found.
[03:02] <evilelf> amphi, I'm building kvirc 3.x (CVS)
[03:02] <joelbryan> hello, anyone know why pessulus isn't included in dapper?
[03:02] <kbrooks> Blake79: ?
[03:02] <patch> Who_ I have a white cube
[03:02] <amphi> evilelf: just for a laugh, how many lines is configure?
[03:02] <Blake79> bash: diskmounter: No such file or directory
[03:02] <evilelf> amphi, about 550 ;)
[03:02] <Kyoske> um
[03:02] <evilelf> let me check
[03:02] <Kyoske> kbrooks: there is no /sbin, there is no /usr/bin
[03:02] <patch> ok I have the Event tester windo "Who_"
[03:02] <kbrooks> Kyoske: ls -l /sbin
[03:02] <Blake79> lol....I thought i had it.    The script you sent me, i saved to hard drive, and then typed in the command through terminal
[03:03] <evilelf> amphi, euh.... 32029 lines ;)
[03:03] <amphi> evilelf: pffft, celestia's is 30079 lines ;)
[03:03] <Who_> patch: yea, you are supposed to, ugly isn't it. Now, can you push the WINDOWS key while that windo is activated (not moving the mouse) and see if the text in the terminal scrolls
[03:03] <amphi> evilelf: ah, that's more like it
[03:03] <evilelf> amphi, I took a wild guess :P
[03:03] <Kyoske> kbrooks: ok that did somthing
[03:03] <intelikey> howto get the windows keys to switch consoles like they are suposed to ?
[03:03] <Kyoske> kbrooks: now do i try it again?
[03:03] <Kyoske> brb bathroom
[03:04] <intelikey> left-win  should send  alt-left  and right-win should send alt-right
[03:04] <Blake79> kbrooks, i'm not dumb, but i feel like it.
[03:04] <evilelf> amphi, I'll keep you posted
[03:04] <kbrooks> Blake79: brb bathroom
[03:04] <W1JRM> Who_: This is james_
[03:04] <iiiears> intelikey - Did the graphical app to modify keyboard shortcuts work?
[03:04] <Kyoske> amphi: ok
[03:04] <Kyoske> amphi: do i try to do /sbin/grub-install again?
[03:05] <MoonRanger> how do you add a usergroup via commandline
[03:05] <patch> Who_: ok I can see meny things so what should I do after that ?
[03:05] <amphi> Kyoske: what happened the last time you tried it?
[03:05] <Who_> patch: The othe rplace to look is in 'System-->Preferences-->Keyboard-->Layout Options (Tab)'
[03:05] <Who_> WLJRM: Hi
[03:05] <intelikey> iiiears what graphical app ?
[03:05] <Kyoske> it siad there was no /sbin directory
[03:05] <intelikey> iiiears console  not terminal
[03:05] <Kyoske> amphi: and there is still no directory
[03:05] <iiiears> Blake79 - ROFL - If they can teach me to use Ubuntu they are patient and knowledeable to teach anyone. :)
[03:05] <patch> ok I'm in keyboard !
[03:06] <Who_> WLJRM: try this - in Xchat go to View-->Layout-->Tree
[03:06] <Who_> WLJRM: and now see if you see my name appear in that list at the side
[03:06] <patch> in layout options Who_
[03:06] <iiiears> intelikey  -ah, okay i was thinking of something else.
[03:06] <amphi> Kyoske: your situation is somewhat opaque - did the original install finish ok?
[03:06] <Kyoske> amphi: i dont know (crys)
[03:06] <Who_> patch: there is a sectrion called ALT/Win key bahaviour
[03:07] <Who_> have a look at that
[03:07] <Blake79> i looked in my system under the etc folder and there is no folder fstab in there at all? is that a problem, or will the script generate it?
[03:07] <Kyoske> amphi: =(
[03:07] <patch> Yes I'm in ! Who_
[03:07] <Kyoske> amphi: i feel like im lost from my computer now...
[03:07] <amphi> Kyoske: if you do 'ls /'do you see sbin?
[03:07] <rafael_> Boa noite!
[03:07] <Kyoske> amphi: yes yes i do
[03:08] <Who_> pathc: I thinkn you probably want 'Super' ismapped to the win keys selected
[03:08] <Kyoske> amphi: i see sbin
[03:08] <amphi> Kyoske: and 'ls /sbin/grub-install' gives what?
[03:08] <intelikey> Blake79 fstab is a file.
[03:08] <Kyoske> let me see
[03:08] <W1JRM> Who_: did you reboot
[03:08] <W1JRM> I still can not get the DVD to play
[03:08] <richiefrich> amphi, u use that ?
[03:09] <amphi> richiefrich: ?
[03:09] <patch> ok I selected "Super is mapped to the Win-keys (Default)" Who_
[03:09] <Kyoske> amphi: it dent do anyhting
[03:09] <Blake79> ok, i see the file.  It is there
[03:09] <iiiears> Blake79 - It is there. easy to miss but it's there.
[03:09] <richiefrich> amphi, i do it manually...   grub-install
[03:09] <intelikey> Blake79 look for /etc/fstab  this way   ls -l /etc/fstab    in the term
[03:09] <amphi> richiefrich: please guide Kyoske through the process ;)
[03:09] <richiefrich> amphi, ok
[03:09] <richiefrich> Kyoske, grub install
[03:09] <Kyoske> richiefrich: i really need some help
[03:09] <W1JRM> Who_: yes your name is there
[03:09] <richiefrich> Kyoske, do these cmds
[03:09] <wims> amphi,  isn't grub-install in /boot ?
[03:09] <Kyoske> richiefrich: ok plz guide me
[03:10] <patch> Who_: how can I know if the win key is function correctly ?
[03:10] <Who_> W1JRM - righty, if you click on t you can talk to m directly
[03:10] <iiiears> Blake79 - Did it get deleted? - hm. - wonder if there is an easy way to generate one automatically.
[03:10] <amphi> Kyoske: what do you mean it showed nothing? it must have given an error, or output 'grub-install'
[03:10] <Blake79> I do see it there.  I see the way i partitioned in the file.  I'm wondering if i can't access HD because of the way i partitioned this drive?
[03:10] <Kyoske> amphi: well yes thats what i mean
[03:10] <richiefrich> Kyoske,   grub    -->   root (hd0,0)    -->      setup (hd0)          -->  quit                 ALL different cmds ..    grub gets u to the =--> grub>
[03:10] <intelikey> wims no grub-install is not in /boot   try /usr/sbin
[03:10] <amphi> Kyoske: arrgggg
[03:10] <richiefrich> Kyoske, do u understand ?
[03:11] <amphi> Kyoske: so do '/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda'
[03:11] <Kyoske> richiefrich: umm each --> means enter right
[03:11] <richiefrich> amphi, i didnt want to step on your toes
[03:11] <Who_> Patch: lol, here's the funny part!  If it causes text in the console that you used to start XEV then you know that the X-server is seeing the key! that is why I startyed with that. If it works then you know.
[03:11] <richiefrich> Kyoske, yes
[03:11] <amphi> Kyoske: or do it richiefrich's way, the result is the same
[03:11] <Who_> pathc: try setting it to be a keyboard shortcut for something and see what it calles the key
[03:11] <amphi> richiefrich: the current toes cry out to be stepped on ;)
[03:11] <Blake79> iiiears, it is not deleted
[03:11] <richiefrich> amphi, i never had any luck with grub-install
[03:12] <richiefrich> amphi, ok, any time i can assist just ask, im in iso many channel's
[03:12] <Kyoske> richiefrich: grub doesnt work
[03:12] <richiefrich> Kyoske, then it's not installed
[03:12] <Who_> W1JRM: try this sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[03:12] <Blake79> ??that is something that did work for me.  :)
[03:12] <patch> Who_: ok Thank's I care this key for compiz that's all
[03:12] <amphi> richiefrich: I can't remember which I used the last time
[03:12] <Kyoske> richiefrich: ur right, nothing is really installed, beside i think ubuntu
[03:12] <iiiears> Blake79 - Ubuntu lets you have read only access to even ntfs drives and read write access to a linux formatted drive. - if you formatted the drive read only by selecting expert install mode i believe you can still edit the fstab file to get read write access.
[03:12] <Who_> patch: ahh, fun :)
[03:13] <amphi> Kyoske: try /sbin/grub
[03:13] <evilelf> amphi, libs are in the right folders, ldconfig reports them to be in the cache, configure script was generated using autotools... 5$ it's autotools
[03:13] <patch> jaja lol
[03:13] <richiefrich> Kyoske, sudo apt-get install grub
[03:13] <patch> Who_ thank's !
[03:13] <Who_> I really ought to start updating my Copmiz blog again!
[03:13] <Jae2> Hey, my athero wireless card was working until I think when I installed ATI display drivers, anyone know what might of caused this and/or how to fix it?
[03:13] <patch> Who_: what is your blog Who_ ?
[03:13] <Who_> compiz.blogspot.com
[03:13] <amphi> evilelf: yeah
[03:13] <Blake79> hmm..Myy primary drive is NTFS (windows XP), what is the appropriate format for Linux.  When i partitioned it didn't like FAT32, (gave me skeleton)
[03:14] <Blake79> Even still, with the NTFS drive, it isn't letting me in at all, not even in view only.
[03:14] <W1JRM> k
[03:14] <wims> Kyoske, if you only want windows to work again you don't really have to install grub, you only have to fix your mbr, which you can do from a dos prompt (windows cd has a rescue system). Type FIXMBR in the dosprompt and the windows boot loader will be installed again and windows will be able too boot. That is if you haven't dmaged the partition somehow
[03:14] <Kyoske> richiefrich: wait do what?
[03:14] <intelikey> Kyoske which program is "ubuntu" exactly ?     :)
[03:14] <relachs> Does Ubuntu support the latest and greatest wifi cards shipped with the Yonah platform?
[03:14] <richiefrich> Kyoske, sudo apt-get install grub   <-- do that install grub then the other one
[03:14] <Who_> patch: It was cool for a month, and then I go so far behiond cos I went on holiday!
[03:14] <Discipulus> what's a good CD burning software?
[03:15] <richiefrich> intelikey, i think he meant the distro
[03:15] <richiefrich> :)
[03:15] <Kyoske> richiefrich: richhie be more decisive
[03:15] <evilelf> amphi, About the person who told you the libs would be included completely, hah, that' kinda defeats the purpose of dynamic linking... and obliviously go against the concept of static linking.
[03:15] <amphi> richiefrich: he's chrooted from a rescue mode cd boot
[03:15] <Kyoske> richiefrich: what do i do first, then enter, then what do i do
[03:15] <Discipulus> I tried using graveman and it worked for a while but it doesn't finish CDs it stops at like 80-90 percent, doesn't get all the songs on there
[03:15] <richiefrich> Kyoske, sudo apt-get install grub
[03:15] <Kyoske> amphi im not in resue
[03:15] <richiefrich> 1st
[03:15] <iiiears> Blake79 - I may have missed something you said before i logged on but, if you make the script executable by changing the permissions with a right click in the gui or chmod +x at the command line you can run it using sh /path/to/your/script/file.sh
[03:15] <richiefrich> Kyoske,   grub    -->   root (hd0,0)    -->      setup (hd0)          -->  quit                 ALL different cmds ..    grub gets u to the =--> grub>
[03:15] <amphi> evilelf: yeah, it seemed ludicrous
[03:15] <richiefrich> 2nd
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> Blue89: ext3
[03:15] <Who_> W1JRM - are you still there?
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> Blue89: (Or any of the other options offered in the installer.)
[03:16] <Blue89> if I run "esport DISPLAY=:2", will that be permanent or will it only apply to this xterm?
[03:16] <duda> can i put diferent images for diferente desktops?
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> Aargh.
[03:16] <amphi> evilelf: I may have misunderstood what they were saying
[03:16] <evilelf> amphi, assumptions are the root of evil... asking for validation of such argument is beyond common freaking sense! :)
[03:16] <Blake79> under disk manager it lets me browse and iiiears that means nothing to me. <shrugs>
[03:16] <richiefrich> Kyoske, do that help ?
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> Blake79: Those two were for you, re filesystem types.
[03:16] <Who_> duda: are yo using compiz?
[03:16] <iiiears> Blake - Make the diskmouter script executable and run it.
[03:16] <Kyoske> richiefrich: no
[03:16] <Kyoske> richiefrich: it said some crap was missing
[03:16] <blank_> rob, are you there man?
[03:16] <richiefrich> Kyoske, sudo apt-get install grub     <-- do that
[03:16] <richiefrich> whats it say ?
[03:17] <Kyoske> richiefrich: unalbe to fetch some archives
[03:17] <evilelf> brb, running off to the convenience store
[03:17] <iiiears> <<- Ay! Ay! ay! here comes that guy with the big ears. - lol
[03:17] <patch> Who_: Thank's a lot It work's form me !
[03:17] <Kyoske> richiefrich: maybe run apt-get uptade
[03:17] <richiefrich> Kyoske, u want to use lilo
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> duda: Not in Gnome currently.
[03:17] <W1JRM> Who_: yes i am
[03:17] <richiefrich> Kyoske, yes do that
[03:17] <Kyoske> richiefrich: lilo?
[03:17] <richiefrich> Kyoske,  apt-get uptade
[03:18] <W1JRM> doing that sudo apt that you told me about
[03:18] <duda> i was using compiz. it just crashed
[03:18] <Who_> W1JRM: cool.
[03:18] <duda> Who_, i waz using
[03:19] <Kyoske> richiefrich: apt-get update dent get me anywhere
[03:19] <Blake79> iiiears, one more time. The diskmounter script, i thought i saved it on my hard drive.  How do i make executable?
[03:19] <Who_> W1JRM: Can you click on my name and type a message to me, or click 'chat' up the top (right) corner
[03:19] <gnosticapex> !pastebin
[03:19] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:19] <richiefrich> Kyoske, grub alternative
[03:19] <intelikey> iiiears in a case like that, it might be more simple to tell them " sh  file.sh "    than trying to get them to chmod it.   just a thought.
[03:19] <Discipulus> what's a good CD burning software?
[03:19] <W1JRM> i did you did not see it
[03:20] <Who_> W1JRM: right, did you try clikcing 'chat'#
[03:20] <W1JRM> i dont see chat #
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> !burners
[03:20] <amphi> Discipulus: cdrecord - many people seem to like k3b
[03:20] <ubotu> [burners]  k3b, nautilus cd burner, gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord, and others.
[03:20] <JordiGH> Ack, any idea why Xchat forwards me to #knoppix when I try to join #debian? I am using Knoppix.
[03:20] <iiiears> Blake79 - No problem :) - right click on it and use the "Permissions" tab to make it an "Executable" file. linux dosen't rely on file extensions as heavily as windows. chmod +x will also modify it's status using the commandline.
[03:22] <Who_> W1JRM: I am not so well versed in IRC - so I don't know what isn't working :) I am looking, but for now we'll just stick here. Any joy with totem-xine?
[03:22] <W1JRM> i am looking now
[03:22] <intelikey> Discipulus they are all good.   i like xcdroast.   some prefer gnome-baker or nautilus-burner    some like k3b     if you are hard core cdrecord.
[03:22] <Discipulus> lol
[03:22] <Discipulus> alright thanks
[03:23] <W1JRM> ok it finished the install so what is next
[03:23] <W1JRM> Who_: brb i have to reboot
[03:23] <W1JRM> to eject the cd rom
[03:23] <W1JRM> so it will mount
[03:23] <W1JRM> br back in 1 min
[03:23] <Who_> W1JRM: okie
[03:24] <intelikey> Discipulus i only mentioned the cli app cdrecord because all the other named are gui frontends to cdrecord  iirc
[03:24] <gnosticapex> Should I worry about http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/14151 at all? or is it just a natural thing? like is it going to hinder my ability at all to install apps? I get it all the time, I know it's a repository problem but I don't know a) how to fix it (i've cleared my sources.list twice) or b) what that particular repos even is >.>
[03:25] <amphi> Kyoske: did you try '/sbin/grub-install /dev/hda' ?
[03:25] <iiiears> Discipulus - K3B is almost too powerful. likely to burn a few coasters finding your way around all the diferent iso types and overburn options.
[03:26] <Kyoske> amphi: yes
[03:26] <intelikey> iiiears that's what "dummy" mode is for
[03:26] <Kyoske> amphi: it did not work one bit
[03:27] <amphi> Kyoske: that is not a useful error report
[03:27] <iiiears> intelikey - Hey!, be nice. - lol
[03:27] <Kyoske> amphi: let me get it for u
[03:27] <intelikey> iiiears i was.     ?
[03:28] <Queengambit> exit
[03:28] <Queengambit> exit
[03:28] <Discipulus> intelikey, well I don't really like gnomebaker or Serpentine or nautilus-cd-burner
[03:28] <davemicc> lol
[03:28] <iiiears> intelikey - I know you were. i am just sensitive is all. ;)
[03:28] <amphi> Discipulus: there's bashburn too ;)
[03:28] <Discipulus> Is it powerful?
[03:28] <iiiears> intelikey - glad you are here.
[03:29] <amphi> Discipulus: just a frontend to cdrecord, mkisofs, cdrdao, et al.
[03:29] <awolf> Can I get apt to download in parallel
[03:29] <Kyoske> amphi: bash: /sbin/grub-install: no sourse or directory found
[03:29] <Blake79> lol, it's saved as a text editor file.
[03:30] <Blake79> iiiears, sorry, afk...I think i saved the script incorrecty.
[03:30] <intelikey> Discipulus gtoaster ?
[03:30] <Kyoske> amphi: bash: /sbin/grub-install: no such file or directory
[03:30] <W1JRM> Who_:  I am back
[03:30] <Blake79> nm
[03:30] <Who_> W1JRM: try "/chat Who_"
[03:30] <amphi> Kyoske: ah... does 'ls /boot/grub' show various files with 'stage' in their names?
[03:30] <JordiGH> Anyone remember how to use the at command? I want to schedule a cron job to download some cds at night in a remote server when everyone's home and the network traffic is down. :-)
[03:30] <Who_> W1JRM: with good news?
[03:30] <W1JRM> waiting on it to connect
[03:30] <amphi> Kyoske: bah, just read your corrected message
[03:31] <amphi> Kyoske: same with /sbin/grub ?
[03:31] <iiiears> Blake79 - What console message were printed when you ran it?
[03:31] <intelikey> amphi cdrdao is cdrecord.... it's a hardlink
[03:31] <Who_> W1JRM: yea, this probably isn't worht the time - we'll just talk here  - I'll learn later :)
[03:31] <Blake79> no such file or directory
[03:31] <Jowi> gnosticapex: check out these links that ubotu will give you
[03:32] <Jowi> ubotu: tell gnosticapex about repos
[03:32] <Blake79> bash: diskmounter: no such file or directory
[03:32] <Blake79> it does ask for my password.
[03:32] <W1JRM> ok well i made progress
[03:32] <Kyoske> amphi: nothing is working
[03:32] <W1JRM> new problem
[03:32] <Kyoske> same message
[03:32] <W1JRM> Who_: totem loads up and then goes to blue screen and then shutsdown
[03:33] <iiiears> Blake79 - chmod +x /path/to/filemounter/file.sh THEN sudo sh /path/to/your/diskmounter/file.sh would this command work?
[03:33] <amphi> intelikey: not here
[03:33] <Who_> W1JRM: Oh, that's not cool!
[03:33] <evilelf> I hate autotools
[03:33] <W1JRM> Who_: so does that mean you now know what is the problem
[03:33] <evilelf> I really do
[03:34] <Blake79> i will try it.  First i want to make sure i have the right file saved.  Could you link me the correct script.  That command should work
[03:34] <Who_> W1JRM: Just so you know, if you want to fix that you can just do sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer
[03:34] <W1JRM> ok
[03:34] <intelikey> amphi i agree.  i spoke to soom.  they are both links  but not to the same file    my bad.
[03:34] <iiiears> tell Blake79 about fstab
[03:34] <amphi> evilelf: heh
[03:34] <iiiears> !tell Blake79 about fstab
[03:34] <Who_> W1JRM: but that is less likely to get your DVD playback working.
[03:35] <Blake79> yearh, that's the file i have.
[03:35] <W1JRM> ok so what is the issue bad css file
[03:35] <Blake79> trying that command
[03:35] <Who_> W1JRM: I do not know exactly what the problem is, but I can lead you through some trouble shooting if you have some time and want to try
[03:35] <evilelf> amphi, I've made sure all symlinks are pointed to the latest autotools binaries
[03:35] <W1JRM> sure
[03:35] <W1JRM> i spent 9hours gettingmy wifi working last night useing 5 diff wiki
[03:35] <Blake79> is there anything before /desktop?
[03:35] <amphi> intelikey: well, I'm on debian ATM ;) /usr/bin/cdrecord is script that chooses between cdrecord.mmap and cdrecord.shm according to kernel ver
[03:36] <evilelf> amphi, I'll make a package as soon as I get it working right
[03:36] <Who_> W1JRM: lets's just check you have the file you think you have :)
[03:36] <Who_> W1JRM: sudo dpkg-query -L libdvdcss2
[03:37] <intelikey> amphi hehhe yeah and they are the same file...
[03:37] <jimcooncat> if I'm logged in with ssh, is there a way to beep the internal speaker?
[03:37] <intelikey> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  323508 Apr 12 02:32 /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap
[03:37] <intelikey> -rwsr-xr-- 1 root cdrom 323508 Apr 12 02:32 /usr/bin/cdrecord.shm
[03:37] <Who_> W1JRM: /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2.0.8
[03:37] <Who_>  is the essential one
[03:37] <eddiestone> hello, does anybody here has installed tremulous in ubuntu ?
[03:37] <iiiears> Blake79 - Two ways to do it. type the comeplete path in. (HARDCORE risk mis-spellings.) or drag the file to a terminal window and the path with will magically appear. (Thats what i do cuz' i hate to type.)
[03:37] <Who_> W1JRM:stat /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2.0.8
[03:37] <intelikey> one is a hardlink to the other
[03:37] <Who_> W1JRM: just to check it is all OK
[03:38] <Who_> Size: 28736
[03:38] <amphi> intelikey: not here, ls -i: 8390363 /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap*  8389776 /usr/bin/cdrecord.shm*
[03:39] <iiiears> Blake79 - in a terminal using the up and down arrows will backtrack through all of the commands used in that session or type a few letters of what you remember typing and press TAB for autocomepletion
[03:39] <Blake79> that worked, but no usable windows/mac partitions found. ?  the hda1 (windows hd) is on my desktop, and it says ignoring /dev/hda1 - already in etc/fstab
[03:39] <W1JRM> Who_: ok just giveme a sec to read thur everything
[03:40] <Who_> W1JRM: sudo apt-get install xine-ui
[03:40] <thomasM> hey i need some help with HAL. I need to install a .fdi file for my mp3 player. Anybody know where I install this, or how to make it work?
[03:40] <Who_> W1JRM: just a thought, have you checked another DVD?
[03:40] <thomasM> libdvdcss2 <---
[03:41] <amphi> Kyoske: are you at a loss?
[03:41] <Blake79> i can access the hda1 through diskmanager, but on my desktop icon it is giving me no permisisons.
[03:41] <ahmad> Hello! Does anybody know how to get the GSM 6.10 codec for linux??
[03:41] <W1JRM> /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2.0.8 permission denied
[03:41] <juanca7777> hello everyone, I was wondering which package format has a better compression .deb or .rpm?
[03:42] <evilelf> W1JRM, chmod 755 <filename>
[03:42] <ubuntu> list
[03:42] <iiiears> Blake - Great. - The file has all the commands used to edit and mount or unmount a drive with fstab.  not really surer what happened to your windows drives if there isn't read access now. running the diskmounter.sh didn't give you at least read access?
[03:43] <juanca7777> anyone has an idea? I couldn't find any docs comparing compression between package formats
[03:43] <Blake79> is there anyone else i can ask, (you say it's not on the windows side).  I don't get why under administration it lets me view it, but not an icon on the deskop. It's the same thing
[03:44] <eddiestone> .deb is better
[03:44] <Who_> W1JRM: hmmm... try sudo stat.....
[03:44] <Who_> W1JRM: but - interstingly, I (user) was able to stat it
[03:44] <amphi> juanca7777: debs use gzip, dunno about rpm, probably the same
[03:44] <Who_> when that has worjke
[03:44] <ahmad> Hello! Does anybody know how to get the GSM 6.10 codec for linux??
[03:44] <Who_> W1JRM: When the stat happens can you paste the permissions
[03:44] <eddiestone> for ubuntu at least :)
[03:44] <W1JRM> Who_: no i have not checked another dvd let me try that i am finnishing that stuff you wanted me to
[03:44] <Blake79> umount: only root can unmount /dev/hda1 from /media/hda  Is it the user i created?
[03:44] <W1JRM> yes
[03:44] <juanca7777> eddiestone: what is the criteria?
[03:44] <wims> i just did apt-get dist-upgrade , how can i check which version of Ubuntu i have now ?
[03:44] <thomasM> nobody knows how to install .fdi files for HAL then eh?
[03:45] <amphi> juanca7777: goodness ;)
[03:45] <eddiestone> ubuntu is debian based
[03:45] <thomasM> you have dapper wims.
[03:45] <juanca7777> amphi: rmpcio or something like that
[03:45] <iiiears> Blake79 - I might try running it again. - Will it run without using sudo?   example sh /path/to/diskmounter/file.sh?
[03:45] <wims> thomasM,  nope, breezy
[03:45] <eddiestone> and .deb is the rpm format for debian
[03:45] <iiiears> Blake79 - I might try running it again. - Will it run without using sudo?   example sh /path/to/diskmounter/file.sh
[03:45] <thomasM> breezy, but dist-upgrade brought you up to dapper.
[03:45] <wims> thomasM,  i had hoary before i did dist-upgrade
[03:45] <amphi> juanca7777: I expect they're gzipped too; do file on an rpm, it should tell you
[03:46] <wims> thomasM,  changed my repositories to breezy, shouldn't that have upgraded my os to breezy?
[03:46] <Blake79> my drive is showing mounted, don't thing that's the problem.  It won't let me unmount it either.
[03:46] <amphi> eddiestone: FWIW, deb is not the rpm of anything
[03:46] <Blake79> Says only root can do that
[03:46] <gnosticapex> Jowi: should I be removing the #'s on the deb-src's in that .list you linked me?
[03:46] <juanca7777> eddiestone: :) I know, I just don't know what format is "smaller" :)
[03:46] <W1JRM> Who_: big prob now i am back to not having the decoders
[03:46] <thomasM> wims it seems you already knew the answer to your question. you are at breezy then.
[03:47] <eddiestone> amphi, it's just a way to say
[03:47] <Blake79> should i delete the user i created iiiears?
[03:47] <wims> thomasM,  yeah, well, that's what i'm thinking. I was just wondering if there was some command to confirm it
[03:47] <eddiestone> I hope rpm is smaller
[03:47] <chapium> wims, cat /proc/version
[03:47] <wims> chapium,  thank you
[03:47] <InvisiblePinkUni> is bacula the best available backup solution?
[03:48] <thomasM> system --> About Ubuntu
[03:48] <iiiears> Blake79 - (looks nervously both ways with a lost look.) I missedit. when did you create a new user?
[03:48] <gnosticapex> Jowi: should I be removing the #'s on the deb-src's in that .list you linked me?
[03:48] <juanca7777> eddiestone: really?
[03:48] <W1JRM> Who_: "james@Markwith:~$ stat /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2.0.8
[03:48] <W1JRM>   File: `/usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2.0.8'
[03:48] <W1JRM>   Size: 28736           Blocks: 64         IO Block: 4096   regular file
[03:48] <W1JRM> Device: 301h/769d       Inode: 1044955     Links: 1
[03:48] <W1JRM> Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
[03:48] <W1JRM> Access: 2006-05-16 21:46:28.000000000 -0400
[03:48] <W1JRM> Modify: 2005-11-23 12:10:54.000000000 -0500
[03:48] <thomasM> nice
[03:48] <W1JRM> Change: 2006-05-16 19:37:23.000000000 -0400
[03:48] <thomasM> !pastebin
[03:48] <W1JRM> "
[03:48] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[03:48] <jman> i downloaded the source for unrarlib. ive got a unrarlib.c and a unrarlib.h file umm do i just gcc filename -o filename for both or... i promise if someone helps me ill remember and never ask this very basic question again :)
[03:48] <gnosticapex> !pastebin
[03:48] <Who_> W1JRM: but totem isn't crashing?
[03:48] <iiiears> tell WIJRM about paste
[03:48] <iiiears> !paste
[03:48] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[03:48] <juanca7777> eddiestone: but .deb is better ;) because of the dependecies being taken care of automatically right ?
[03:49] <eddiestone> juanca7777, for sure
[03:49] <W1JRM> nope
[03:49] <W1JRM> now it says i dont have the decoders
[03:49] <Who_> W1JRM: I would reccomenend the following, cos I need to go to bed but I really don't want to leav you without any usefull help out of this time!
[03:49] <W1JRM> ok
[03:49] <amphi> eddiestone: that's the tool, not the file format
[03:49] <W1JRM> it never crashed till you had me change the totem player the thing it was doing at first is just not playing
[03:49] <W1JRM> so what is it you want for me to do
[03:49] <chapium> jman, i know someone who calls themself jman....
[03:49] <juanca7777> eddiestone: any docs where I can compare the compression gains?
[03:50] <amphi> W1JRM: 644 is fine, that's what it is here, and it works
[03:50] <juanca7777> amphi: any docs where I can compare the compression gains?
[03:50] <gnosticapex> In my sources.list that I got off of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 should I remove the #'s on the deb-src's or leave them? o.0 I added in the us.archive.ubuntu.com, should I not have a # on the deb-src for it?
[03:50] <Blake79> lol..when i installed
[03:50] <jman> chapium: there is only one jman
[03:50] <amphi> juanca7777: not that I'm aware of, I don't know what compression rpm uses
[03:50] <Blake79> it's saying only the root can unmount?
[03:50] <chapium> jman, and is he in muncie?
[03:50] <Blake79> the hda1 is mounted, welcome back to the convo
[03:50] <W1JRM> now it says i have no decoders and i did get the liddvdcss and the other one
[03:51] <Who_> W1JRM: Open synaptic and choose to install totem-gstreamer (yes, do remove totem-xine) and check you have gstreamer0.8-dvd installed. This will set things back to how they were and may help things. We also installed xine-ui, which will have given you another media player, which may be able to play DVDs if totm can't,, it is in the menu and I think you'll be able to use it
[03:51] <jman> chapium: i dont think so *looks around*
[03:51] <amphi> juanca7777: why are you interested, BTW?
[03:51] <evilelf> "Does a brother has to a choke-an-autotool to get a Makefile?"
[03:51] <juanca7777> amphi: cpio
[03:52] <thomasM> pitiful evilelf :l
[03:52] <chapium> jman, www.jman.us
[03:52] <W1JRM> but do i have to reinstall the codecs
[03:52] <iiiears> Blake79 - Okay, The fstab file is the file with power to mount disks. diskmounter.sh has the command syntax for mounting disks
[03:52] <amphi> juanca7777: uncompressed?
[03:52] <gnosticapex> In my sources.list that I got off of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 should I remove the #'s on the deb-src's or leave them? o.0 I added in the us.archive.ubuntu.com, should I not have a # on the deb-src for it?
[03:52] <Who_> W1JRM:(I use totem-cine here an it is rock solid - so I don't know what was going on), yes you do have libdvdcss2 which is what is needed... No, you don't need to reinstall the codecs :)
[03:52] <Blake79> It is mounted
[03:52] <thomasM> gnosticapex patience.
[03:53] <juanca7777> amphi: I just had a problem with the artwiz-cursor package, I had  to extract the files and change some install scripts, formerly I used redhat/fedora, I never did anything the alike
[03:53] <juanca7777> amphi: I just had a problem with the artwiz-cursor package, I had  to extract the files and change some install scripts, formerly I used redhat/fedora, I never did anything the alike
[03:53] <iiiears> Blake79 - i am hoping someone can teach me how to answer your question.
[03:53] <thomasM> ........
[03:53] <Blake79> it just says i don't have permissions needed to access it
[03:53] <Blake79> LOL...What happens if i delete the user ic reated?
[03:53] <W1JRM> ok
[03:53] <evilelf> thomasM, bah... I'm trying to find where the autogen script is borking.... pain in the ass script
[03:53] <juanca7777> amphi: yes, it uses rpm2cpio to extract packages' contents
[03:53] <gnosticapex> thomasM: yeah, just wasn't sure if it got through, having terrible net troubles tonight so I dont know from one second to the next when Im still connected. >_< everything else is booting me off every 5 sec
[03:53] <thomasM> odd.
[03:54] <amphi> juanca7777: to convert the rpm to a cpio archive?
[03:54] <amphi> juanca7777: what does file foo.rpm say?
[03:54] <Who_> W1JRM: and as a final attempt at an inelegant solution, you could try and install and use mplayer (needs a few different packages in synaptic to ensure a UI) - which to me is the least flashy but most solid media player
[03:54] <Blake79> can anyone tell me about user rights??