[08:57] <ttx> Hey guys, I have an armel build failure at: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wesnoth/1:1.6.2-1ubuntu1/+build/1079861
[08:57] <ttx> Boils down to "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[08:57] <ttx> Any hint on how I could debug that ?
[08:57] <kblin> no c compiler installed?
[08:58] <ttx> kblin: that's on an armel buildd so I suppose there is build-essential installed :)
[08:58] <persia> Maybe related to the recent binutils upload?  I heard a rumour that there were increased build failures on all non-x86 hardware.
[08:58] <kblin> good point, I see the line where gcc 4 is installed
[08:59] <kblin> doesn't the ubuntu build system do something like "cat config.log" if configure fails?
[08:59] <ttx> kblin: unfortunately, not :)
[08:59] <persia> Adding cat config.log would be something someone could do in debian/rules to debug something.
[08:59] <kblin> because that's where I'd start
[09:00] <ttx> persia/kblin: I'll see if the rumour confirms itself and if not, do some debian/rules instrumentation in my PPA
[09:00] <ttx> thanks
[09:01] <persia> ttx, If your PPA has non-x86 :)
[09:01] <persia> Otherwise, I'd recommend looking for some hardware or virtualisation environment.
[09:01] <kblin> qemu-arm works ok..
[09:01] <persia> (it shouldn't take that long to get to ./configure, even in low memory-limited qemu-system-arm)
[09:01] <ttx> ok, I'll look into that.
[09:02] <kblin> if you get past the random installer hangs
[09:02] <kblin> though I didn't try 9.10 there
[09:04] <ttx> looking at the buildd logs at https://launchpad.net/builders/nageia/+history it might just make sense to retry the build.
[09:05] <ttx> all builds are currently failing
[09:05] <kblin> ouch
[09:06] <kblin> I agree, given that all of those fail a couple of minutes into the build, with configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables :)
[12:13] <lool> ogra: build-arm-rootfs is a huge success; I keep reading about it in various places; I wish it would become a real project though: source code control, new features, bug reports and the like
[12:14] <ogra> its in the works
[12:14] <lool> ogra: Could you make that happen?  I'm happy to contribute if it's in some shared place
[12:14] <ogra> i'm currently pondering how to integrate oem-config properly
[12:14] <ogra> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-arm-karmic-offline-installer-gui :)
[12:15] <ogra> i want to get over the script in the qemu instance and use proper tools ...
[12:15] <ogra> i'll put a branch up today
[12:15] <ogra> and prepare a package before end of the week
[12:19] <lool> Ok, cool
[12:21] <lool> ogra: e.g<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:22] <lool> ogra: With time, I'm starting to think we could use an ubuntu-arm@ ML, and perhaps a LP team
[12:22] <lool> We have a release out of the door, will support more SoCs and get more enthusiasts over time which use Ubuntu as a base
[12:23] <ogra> yeah, fully agreed
[12:24] <ogra> i'm getting chased down by a guy on ubuntu-users@ about his arm probs since weeks, he alone would have filled such a list since UDS :)
[12:33] <ogra> lool, there you go https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-arm-roofs-builder ... i'll create a maintainer team (or hand it to a newly created LP ubuntu-arm team) later
[12:34] <ogra> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-arm-roofs-builder/trunk will have it with the next publisher run (i already pushed)
[12:35] <lool> ogra: Hmm consider naming things without ARM
[12:35]  * ogra sees lool answered savita on ubuntu-devel ...
[12:36] <lool> ogra: only to one of the two questions
[12:36] <ogra> he is the guy i try to educate on ubuntu-users i mentioned above
[12:36] <ogra> yes, i answered all of his questions several times already
[12:36] <ogra> he asks them over and over and doesnt understand
[12:36] <lool> That sucks
[12:37] <ogra> yeah
[12:37] <ogra> well, thats the nature of ubuntu-users@ .... i asked him several times to come here, but he didnt find his way yet
[12:38] <ogra> in a one to one IRC conversation i'm sure he would get his imx31 system up and running fast
[12:38] <lool> ogra: Back to ubuntu-arm-roofs-builder, I think the approach would work very well with other use cases such as mips or even i386, so it would be nice to not use arm in the name :)
[12:38]  * lool lunch &
[12:38] <ogra> well, its initially written for armel only :)
[12:39] <ogra> i can rename it if qemu grows support for other arches we support with it
[12:41] <ogra> (usb-imagewriter supports SD cards too, but i wouldnt rename it to be just imagewriter (to generic) or usb-and-sd-imagewriter (to long)) :)
[12:53] <playya> sometimes its better to post in on a ML. then the recipient can read it again and again
[12:56] <lool> ogra: qemu-system-<tab>  :)
[12:57] <lool> ogra: The thing is that it's going to be hard to rename later when it's referenced, and it's not hard to make it generic
[13:25] <ogra> lool, any suggestions ?
[13:26] <ogra> playya, well, he asks the same question within five mails he sends within 15min at that speed IRC is more convenient
[13:31] <ogra> grmbl, indeed you can change everything but the url of the LP project
[13:32] <lool> ogra: Well rootfs-builder, or some cool project name
[13:33] <lool> argo!
[13:33] <ogra> so should i register a new project ?
[13:33] <lool> ogra: I think you can rename it
[13:33] <ogra> argo?
[13:33] <ogra> i can rename everything but the initial url i picked
[13:33] <playya> assisted rootfs gold obtainer
[13:33] <lool> ogra: Yeah, just a code name, and as you started it, agro sounded good  :)
[13:34] <ogra> heh
[13:34] <playya> can some of you poke the bzr guys to implement git import, please.
[13:35] <ogra> pfft git
[13:35] <lool> Another Rootfs Growing Oddball
[13:35] <lool> playya: That's done?
[13:35] <ogra> lool, i can change everything in the details page, but not the project url, so i need to create a new one or leave the url but change the rest
[13:36] <lool> ogra: Really?
[13:36] <ogra> yeah
[13:36] <playya> lool, i can't pull git sources into LP
[13:36] <ogra> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-arm-roofs-builder/+edit doesnt offer to change "ubuntu-arm-roofs-builder"
[13:37] <playya> and i want to have several projects. not only branches *hides*
[13:37] <ogra> playya, no, you need to convert the git tree to something sane (i.e. bzr) and then you can push
[13:37] <lool> playya: I think you can now
[13:37] <lool> ogra: I think it's a separate action, like rename project
[13:38] <lool> ogra: Otherwise, you can simply file a question to ask for the change
[13:38] <playya> ok. I'll test it when i finished the debian dirs for the core stuff
[13:38] <lool> https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/8299 example
[13:38]  * ogra checks
[13:39] <lool> Crap, I can't easily find a project I own
[13:42] <lool> Ulteo PC Virtualization Seminars: ?550 for the whole day
[13:42] <lool> 550 EUR!
[13:42] <ogra> fun
[13:46] <ogra> how about "jarb"
[13:46] <ogra> (just a rootfs builder" :)
[13:48] <playya> or just another ...
[13:49] <ogra> jaurb probably, since its written for ubuntu only (yet)
[13:49] <lool> ogra: Well argo had the advantage of being ogra in reverse  ;-)
[13:50] <ogra> yeah, but no meaning at all :)
[13:50] <lool> I like jarb
[13:50] <playya> is anyone working on a graphical image builder?
[13:50] <lool> Simple, short, to the point, catchy
[13:50] <ogra> jarb is an abbreviation :)
[13:50] <lool> I hope it's not an insult in some language
[13:50] <ogra> playya, i am :) https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-arm-karmic-offline-installer-gui
[13:50] <lool> playya: See, that's the kind of things we could do if we had some common project
[13:51] <lool> I personally thought it would rock to have it in python, or integrated in uvb, but this is all rather futuristic  ;)
[13:51] <ogra> yeah, and really a lot crappy overhead
[13:52] <playya> vala vala vala
[13:52] <ogra> i want a gui to select the options and then it should launch oem-config from inside qemu
[13:52] <ogra> and i dont want to rewrite it in python :)
[13:54]  * ogra considers calling it kxvlpm03582 ... thats surely not an insult in any language :)
[13:55] <ogra> and as good to pronounce as the renamed screen-profile project :)
[13:58] <ogra> which gets me an idea ... persia any nice japanese suggestion for naming ubuntu-arm-roofs-builder ?
[13:59] <ogra> (japanese seems to be the current hype)
[14:00] <playya> call it anata wa rootf builder
[14:00] <playya> if i remember my japanese course correctly
[14:00] <ogra> awrb ?
[14:02] <dpb> awrb sounds like something written in ruby
[14:02] <ogra> awrb.sh :)
[14:03] <lool> argh no, not .sh!
[14:06] <ogra> argh ... "arm rootfs generation helper"
[14:07] <ogra> ;)
[14:07] <ogra> or s/arm/another/ ... as you like
[15:05] <persia> ogra, 根作 (but I'm not sure how to pronounce it)
[15:06] <ogra> is there an utf8 able equivalent i can use for LP ?
[15:06]  * persia tries a couple things
[15:07] <persia> nesaku probably isn't horridly wrong.
[15:08] <ogra> sounds good
[15:08] <ogra> what does it mean exactly ?
[15:08] <persia> Meaning is roughly "The harvesting of the source/basis" or "root build"
[15:08] <ogra> perfect
[15:08] <ogra> lool, ^^^^^
[15:09] <persia> Copy it to http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi?1B for a closer gloss.
[15:09] <persia> it's not a normal compound, just one I cobbled up (so not an actual Japanese word or anything)
[15:19] <persia> ogra, Do let me know if you're seriously considering it: I'll ask in #ubuntu-jp
[15:20] <ogra> well, sounds better than all former suggestions yet
[15:20] <ogra> lool seems asleep though ... or has no opinion ...
[15:20] <persia> asleep at this hour?
[15:20] <ogra> heh
[15:57] <lool> a) I'm not asleep, just deep in a context and avoiding switches  :-)   b) I'm getting a headache  c) I disable beeping anyway!
[15:58] <lool> ogra: A non-feature-bound term is fine by me!
[15:58] <ogra> so lets go with "nesaku"
[15:59] <lool> As long as you don't name the project ogra's-arm-and-ubuntu-only-shell-rootfs-tarball-builder, it's going to work
[15:59] <ogra> nah, that would be to short
[15:59] <ogra> but probably nesaku.sh ?
[15:59]  * ogra hides
[16:01] <lool> Nice try
[16:01] <ogra> :)
[16:12] <persia> ogra, Let me see if anyone in jp is still awake, to avoid making a silly mistake.
[16:40] <persia> ogra, #ubuntu-jp folk say not to use that name.  It creates a reminder of farmers in olden times.  I have no good suggestions.
[16:41] <lool> ogra: nesaku-(not-the-old-farmers)
[16:41] <persia> heh.  No.
[16:41] <ogra> heh


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[00:55] <Unit193> bluesabre: re: Docs review.  Took a look at several sections, https://xubuntu.github.io/xubuntu-docs/user/C/internet-networks.html for example seems a bit "odd", shouldn't be using ifconfig, etc.  Otherwise, well...uh..maybe seems fine?
[01:03] <bluesabre> I suspect that ifconfig section might be the carry-over from the ancient docs
[01:04] <bluesabre> But yeah, we can build the docs on commit in GitHub
[01:06] <Unit193> I pushed two commits to master a few months back that aren't stacked on top, but that shouldn't matter for that review.
[01:07] <bluesabre> Very cool.
[01:07] <bluesabre> Only other thing is the latest wallpaper ping, in case you haven't already voted on Tenerife
[01:08] <bluesabre> And if you're feeling artsy, you could make a wallpaper in case knome isn't quite done yet :D
[01:09] <Unit193> I stupidly responded to that on IRC elsewhere just now. >_>  I do not have the skillset needed for the wallpaper.
[01:09] <Unit193> Specifically, I'm never feeling artsy, and not sure I even voted for the winning wallpapers. :D
[01:09] <bluesabre> :D
[01:11] <bluesabre> Want to test https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/pull/318 ?
[01:12] <Unit193> Maybe not sure how, but I could if that'd help.
[01:14] <bluesabre> Installation instructions in the readme. Current version doesn't install anything outside of Greybird/Greybird-dark correctly :D
[01:14] <bluesabre> Can probably also just drop it in the current package since its all meson
[01:14] <Unit193> I still use a patched Numix, I should likely find a different theme...
[01:17] <bluesabre> Oh wow, the numix theme really just stopped
[01:18] <krytarik> bluesabre: Wrt the doc changes, so far from looking over the overall diff a bit, I noticed 1.) the webchat links are still from old Freenode, and 2.) all the icon additions in the user docs should have gone into the xubuntu-user.ent rather than the -common one.
[01:20] <bluesabre> krytarik: awesome, thanks for the review!
[01:20] <Unit193> More useful than mine. \o/
[01:21] <bluesabre> Any feedback is good feedback to me
[01:24] <krytarik> bluesabre: Going into the textual part a bit, first one I've noticed is in software-management and is that "apt or apt-get" is completely bold including the "or"..
[01:42] <krytarik> bluesabre: I think the reason why I'm still seeing a guide-desktop.html while the corresponding XML file was renamed may be because it still says <chapter id="guide-desktop">
[01:47] <krytarik> Same on a few other chapters it seems.
[01:53] <krytarik> And I think following the overall pattern there, "guide-default-apps" should then also be renamed to just "default-apps"
[02:07] <krytarik> "Hibernation is disabled by default in Xubuntu and instructions to enable it can be found in Chapter [placeholder]." - lol XD
[02:08] <Unit193> That's the *best* chapter!
[02:12] <krytarik> It'd seem "hardware-devices.html#enabling-hibernation" would be the appropriate place to link from there though.
[11:13] <bluesabre> Good good. I'll get those changes in today or tomorrow. :)
[11:13] <bluesabre> Unit193: We've got a new greybird-gtk-theme, in case you want to upload to Debian :) https://salsa.debian.org/desktop-themes-team/greybird-gtk-theme


[08:23] <zzarr> hello! I can't get X-apps to launch in a libertine container
[09:20] <zzarr> I can't get X-apps to start in a libertine container, what should I look for? (where do I find the logs)
[09:36] <zzarr> running "libertine-container-manager exec -i xenial -c /bin/bash" (xenial do exist) I get "Container failed to start"
[10:32] <vitimiti> Hi. I'm trying to test Unity 8 on the desktop, but the tutorial prompts and it wants me to do a long swipe. Because it's the desktop, I can't do any long swipes and it won't let me use the desktop until I do that. Is there a way to force the tutorial as complete through terminal so that I can directly jump into using it?
[10:53] <DanChapman> vitimiti, you can disable it with via dbus http://paste.ubuntu.com/16406808/
[10:54] <vitimiti> Thanks
[10:54] <zzarr> Hello DanChapman!
[10:55] <zzarr> I have Unity8 on my desktop (laptop), but I can't find Dekko
[10:56] <vitimiti> I'll be back later
[10:57] <DanChapman> hey zzarr, that's probably because the store version is only built for armhf
[10:58] <zzarr> I suspected that, is it possible to download a x86_64 version?
[11:02] <DanChapman> zzarr, if your happy to try an untested click then there's this https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0BwhxYaiA7z1qY2Jtd2E1Y3daSGs&export=download but i haven't verified it works or anything :-)
[11:02] <zzarr> I am happy about it :)
[11:03] <zzarr> do you have any idea how to get a libertine container to work?
[11:03] <DanChapman> nope not tried libertine yet.
[11:04] <zzarr> okey
[11:05] <vitimiti> DanChapman, I'm afraid it didn't work
[11:05] <DanChapman> zzarr, you might find https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yJepibh68YaQijWO3Z3dWTtTTmzXnMmEE8eswhUXzw4/edit useful
[11:06] <DanChapman> vitimiti, ah i think it should have been boolean:false
[11:06] <vitimiti> I see, let me try that one now
[11:07] <zzarr> Thanks DanChapman
[11:08] <vitimiti> DanChapman, what's it mean the reply is still "boolean true"?
[11:09] <vitimiti> Well, I'll try it, anyway
[11:10] <zzarr> Dan how do I install dekko?
[11:12] <zzarr> Dan, it seams the guide you sent me is specifically for the M10 tablet
[11:13] <DanChapman> zzarr, pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted dekko.click
[11:14] <zzarr> thanks
[11:14] <DanChapman> zzarr, well libertine is still going to work the same wherever it's installed. Yes that guide has m10 specific parts but the libertine stuff should still apply
[11:15] <vitimiti> Didn't work ;_;
[11:16] <DanChapman> vitimiti, I have no idea then. That call is what phablet-tools does over adb http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-tools/trunk/view/head:/phablet-config#L244
[11:16] <vitimiti> I see
[11:20] <zzarr> Dan, Dekko is such a nice mail reader
[12:01] <zzarr> I removed the container, ran dpkg-reconfigure on libertine, libertine-tools and libertine-scope
[12:01] <zzarr> then I installed a container via gui, now it works
[12:02] <zzarr> besides I can't access the home folder
[17:44] <zzarr> hello! from xchat in libertine :-D
[17:47] <zzarr> is there a way to get OpenGL to work in libertine?
[17:58] <zzarr> I can see with glxinfo | grep direct that it say that it have direct rendering, but games don't agree


[15:02] <sil2100> o/
[15:04] <sil2100> Anyone from the DMB team around? I guess we don't really have any candidates for today
[15:12] <sil2100> I guess no meeting today then
[15:17] <micahg> ok, bye then :)
[15:18] <sil2100> I'll stay around in case there's someone wanting anything from us
[15:19] <Laney> I want a cake
[15:19] <Laney> and a kitten
[15:19] <Laney> NOT combined together before someone says something horrible
[15:19] <sil2100> Fear not, the DMB is here to help
[21:21] <DalekSec> Laney: https://i.imgur.com/BJsJaVd.jpg we tried, but alas it didn't go too well.
[21:23] <tsimonq2> Laney: I have a cake and a giraffe, is that good enough? :P
[21:28]  * Laney screams
[22:44] <sarnold> tsimonq2: hey can I borrow your giraffe sometime? :)
[22:44] <tsimonq2> sarnold: After Laney's done with it. :D
[22:48]  * sarnold puts his name next on The Giraffe List


 Hi again @mariogrip and @fredldotme!

 I debugged the lomiri-ui-toolkit issue. The difference between Qt 5.15.10 and 5.15.12 happens in this line:
 https://gitlab.com/ubports/development/core/lomiri-ui-toolkit/-/blob/1.3.5010/src/LomiriToolkit/ucunits.cpp#L182

 In 5.15.10, `nativeInterface` is nullptr. However, in 5.15.12 it's non-null, so `m_gridUnit` is overwritten with a value that doesn't depend on the environment variable, which makes the test fail.
 This is caused by this commit which was first included in 5.15.11:
 https://code.qt.io/cgit/qt/qtbase.git/commit/?id=533fc55d11710069a83fb35aef5ccab576026978
 Oh, in fact there is already an issue about that: https://gitlab.com/ubports/development/core/lomiri-ui-toolkit/-/issues/34


[04:31] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Security:: Episode 131 @ https://ubuntusecuritypodcast.org/episode-131/
[10:13] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Santiago Zarate: So you want to recover and old git branch because it has been overwritten? @ https://foursixnine.io/blog/linux/tech/git/2021/09/17/So-you-want-to-recover-and-old-git-branch-because-it-has-been-overwritten.html
[12:31] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Ubuntu Blog: Model-driven observability: Embedded Alert Rules @ https://ubuntu.com//blog/model-driven-observability-part-4-embedded-alert-rules
[14:24] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Spotify Linux Client (Finally) Fixes Missing Artwork Bug, Improves Speed @ https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/09/spotify-linux-client-finally-fixes-missing-artwork-bug-improves-speed (by Joey Sneddon)
[22:15] <guiverc> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2021-September/000272.html - 18.04.6; will prepare for fridge next little while
[22:17]  * guiverc filing bug report; will look at 18.04.6 after that's gone  (was plan.. it's stuck)
[22:46] <guiverc> 18.04.6 is up for review on fridge; https://fridge.ubuntu.com/?p=9318&preview=true
[22:48] <krytarik> Ok, logging in..
[22:52] <krytarik> The links have odd formatting and it's missing the 'Release' and 'Planet' categories still.
[22:53] <guiverc> the odd formatting was likely because I had issues with editor, so was done in code editor ; i likely copied a wrong example thus the formatting issue
[22:53] <guiverc> there's also a quote on contribute I missed I now see
[22:54] <krytarik> Ah, indeed.
[22:56] <guiverc> there is no mention of "planet" in the source (lists.ubuntu.com)
[22:57] <krytarik> And the ubuntu-users ML link lost its protocol bit at the front.
[22:58] <krytarik> Well, I mean apply the usual categories to the post, when I looked it only had the 'News' one yet.
[22:58] <guiverc> oops - yep didn't think about tags/categories at all - so would not have added any - HUGE mistake; sorry krytarik !
[22:59] <guiverc> quote fixed; Planet & Release added
[23:00] <guiverc> (i was searching for planet.ubuntu.com ref.. had completely missed the categories!! sorry)
[23:01] <guiverc> is the formatting of urls good enough?
[23:02] <krytarik> I can fix it if you want.
[23:02] <guiverc> would appreciate it..
[23:03] <krytarik> Are you leaving the editor then?
[23:03] <guiverc> i thought I had
[23:05]  * guiverc is reading comment & wondering if reply is worth it  (won't be on fridge)
[23:06] <krytarik> I think I just sent that one to trash.. :P
[23:06] <guiverc> won't be an issue - it's still on my screen
[23:21] <guiverc> i replied to comment (as me) .. were you able to edit krytarik?
[23:22] <krytarik> Yeah, turned out I'm reformatting the whole thing right now..
[23:23] <guiverc> sorry then krytarik ; yeah I had some issues with the editor, so went to code editor & deleted lots & copied formatting from an example... chance of missing something was kinda high, but I thought I got it all (looking at preview)
[23:33] <krytarik> Having issues with the link list in the middle now still though.. same formatting on the earlier 20.04.3 post works, but here it doesn't..
[23:34] <guiverc> note one lists.ubuntu.com does not have https:// so it ends up returning to fridge.ubuntu.com/lists.ubuntu... so I added https:// to it
[23:35] <krytarik> Yeah, the one I mentioned earlier?
[23:37] <krytarik> Yay, fixed the link list by copypasting! \o/
[23:37] <guiverc> \o/
[23:38]  * guiverc probably a good thing the fridge.ubuntu.com box is outside of our kicking range - it'd gotten a few kicks today I bet
[23:39] <krytarik> I guess you can go publish it now..
[23:39] <guiverc> thank you heaps krytarik  !
[23:39]  * guiverc will finish this bug report thingy then switch back to fridge
[23:40] <krytarik> I can make it purge the 6,191 spam comments in the meantime then! :P
[23:41] <guiverc> thank you....
[23:42] <krytarik> With the little of actual valid comments we get, I wonder if we shouldn't just disable commenting by default..
[23:44] <guiverc> maybe 2-4 a year are legit; but if it was disabled I'd expect them to go elsewhere (not counting the 2 I passed on to community council) - sounds like a worthwhile idea to me
[23:44] <krytarik> The last approved one of those is from October last year..
[23:44] <guiverc> I tend not to publish, but reply like I did one today, via email (ie. it's acted on even if never published)
[23:45] <krytarik> Ah, that might skew the picture a bit then..
[23:46] <guiverc> that comment had nothing to do with post; so I saw no reason to publish it.. it was someone reaching out to 'ubuntu' (membership - i gave links, support; again link, suggestion for printer, I suggest uf is where I'd go for advice etc)
[23:47] <krytarik> Yeah, hence why I trashed it.. XD
[23:48] <guiverc> :)
[23:52] <guiverc> your links aren't 'spaced' out like mine where; and less code to copy/paste too - I like
[23:52] <guiverc> https://fridge.ubuntu.com/2021/09/17/ubuntu-18-04-6-lts-released/
[23:52] <guiverc> Thanks krytarik !
[23:56] <krytarik> Yeah, the wonders of WP editing.. :3
[23:56] <guiverc> Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS released tweeted


[03:41] <user|51> Hi?
[03:43] <user|51> does kubuntu support fingerprint scaners?
[03:55] <oerheks> yes, but see if yours is supported https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui https://fprint.freedesktop.org/supported-devices.html
[03:57] <user|51> it is in the list in fprint? does it means it is compatible?
[04:03] <user|15> how do i lunch fingerprint gui?
[04:04] <oerheks> 5.24 plasma natively, or Add ʻauth sufficient pam_fprint.so to the top of /etc/pam.d/sddm`.https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/655203/how-do-i-implement-fprintd-into-login-in-kubuntu
[04:07] <user|15> on  that site : https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui i dont know how to do the first step in setup
[04:10] <oerheks> don't use that tool. it is just for the list of supported devices
[04:10] <user|15> ok
[04:20] <user|15> it did not work because i dont have the same scaner as the guy for whom is was written
[05:25] <user|2> hi.. i installed kubuntu 21.10 yesterday. i tried to install applications such as falkon gnome web from discover library. but download failed. then i tried to install Brave browser from softpedia website. download success but installation from zip file failed. i dont know how to install applications on kubuntu. i am new. kindly help
 Ich kriege keine Internetverbindung her und die mitgelieferte Software von der WLAN Karte ist für Windows. (re @daanota: try reloading the driver.)
 English pls
 Oh...sorry
 I can't get an internet connection and the included software from the WLAN card is for Windows.
 I can't get an internet connection and the included software from the WLAN card is for Windows. (re @daanota: try reloading the driver.)
 What? Did you try the commands i posted? (re @SA: I can't get an internet connection and the included software from the WLAN card is for Windows.)
 sudo apt install falkon (re @IrcsomeBot: <user|2> hi.. i installed kubuntu 21.10 yesterday. i tried to install applications such as falkon gnome web from discover library. but download failed. then i tried to install Brave browser from softpedia website. download success but installation from zip file failed. i dont know how to install applications on kubuntu. i am new. kindly help)
 unfortunately not yet, I'll do that later. (re @daanota: What? Did you try the commands i posted?)
 Use terminal commands to install Brave browser.
 Follow the instructions here -
 https://brave.com/linux/#linux (re @IrcsomeBot: <user|2> hi.. i installed kubuntu 21.10 yesterday. i tried to install applications such as falkon gnome web from discover library. but download failed. then i tried to install Brave browser from softpedia website. download success but installation from zip file failed. i dont know how to install applications on kubuntu. i am new. kindly help)
 Under Debian 9
 Da ändert sich nichts (re @daanota: What? Did you try the commands i posted?)
 Nothing changes there. I try to get into the BIOS, in vain. With me there is F9 but nothing reacts there. Or am I doing something wrong? (re @daanota: What? Did you try the commands i posted?)
 What is the result of this command?
 lspci -knn | grep Net -A3
 Should I send photo
 yes pls
 there is, among other things, this to be found, I proceeded like this and it does not work out, he also does not find the command (re @daanota: find out the "kernel module" for your net, type
 lspci -knn | grep Net -A3
 reload the module, type
 sudo modprobe {enter kernel module name here as identified in previous command}
 sample: sudo modprobe rtw88_8821ce)
 unfortunately I am not allowed to send media yet (re @daanota: yes pls)
 sample output looks like this - : https://irc-attachments.kde.org/cf4f576f/file_51516.jpg
 Yes
 This command -
 sudo modprobe rtw88_8821ce
 re-installs rtw88_8821ce from kernel module. This returns nothing?
 No. "sudo modprobe + kernel module" this is the right command to write?
 yes
 No nothing
 that's weird.
 have you tried live version and see if wifi is detected?
[10:27] <cc_> ls
[10:27] <cc_> pwd
 i haven't done that before either. but I still have my USB stick with the operating system that I have on the PC. isn't it easier to reload it? only I don't want to lose my data (re @daanota: have you tried live version and see if wifi is detected?)
 does the live version have to be on a USB stick? (re @daanota: have you tried live version and see if wifi is detected?)
 it would be easier
 what do I have to take care that I do not lose my data?
 DO NOT reinstall
 Backup data
 Ok 👍
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[15:45] <RayS95> system requirements
 Zeus Tells Hercules 6 times to Vanish.
 Hello, I wish all of you a great new year!
 I really think my question is dumb, but I didn't manage to find anywhere the answer to: Where is the tab on Kubuntu settings for sharing desktop?
 I am using KRFB and KRDC, but it doesn' t seem to work.
 The thing I didn't manage to do is to find the desktop sharing option in settings.
 Hello, I wish all of you a great new year!
 I really think my question is dumb, but I didn't manage to find anywhere the answer to: Where is the tab on Kubuntu settings for sharing desktop?
 I am using KRFB and KRDC, but it doesn' t seem to work.
 The thing I didn't manage to do is to find the desktop sharing option in settings.
[20:04] <oerheks> sudo apt-get install krfb krdc  >> https://www.binarytides.com/remote-share-kde-desktop/
 I already read this article, but it doesn't have anything on the kubuntu settings place for enabling desktop sharing.
 On Ubuntu there is a tap called SHARING, but on Kubuntu it is just not there.
 tab*
 Either it doesn't have this configuration and the KRFB and KRDC are the ones to handle it, or it is like the Big-foot or the Yeti, and few people have seen it, and others do not talk about.
[20:12] <oerheks> ubuntu/gnome does give this standard indeed, kubuntu not
 So, what do I do? Are KRFB and KRDC the only thing to install, in order to share my desktop?
 Hello I have re-played kubuntu on it but my data programs........didn't come with me. Is there a way to move from the old kubuntu to the new one? (re @daanota: it would be easier)
 https://irc-attachments.kde.org/3c16bb25/file_51536.jpg
[22:47] <thonker> Hello! Is this the right place to ask a question about a potentially missing option in kubuntu?
[22:51] <thonker> I cannot seem to find the option of changing my power settings that are tied to my CPU throttling. No simple options like: High performance, Balanced or Battery saver. Is this all automatic?
 Backup your data (re @SA: Hello I have re-played kubuntu on it but my data programs........didn't come with me. Is there a way to move from the old kubuntu to the new one?)
 Sudo modprob e1000e (re @SA: )
 auto? yes.
 other settings, goto power management (re @IrcsomeBot: <thonker> I cannot seem to find the option of changing my power settings that are tied to my CPU throttling. No simple options like: High performance, Balanced or Battery saver. Is this all automatic?)


[00:58] <SiDi> Client debugged \o/
[12:57] <savvas> i need your experties :)
[12:57] <savvas> what icon would you make for https://launchpad.net/surl - an application that shortens urls?
[13:14] <kwwii> thorwil: what do you think of the idea of creating an overlay of just the panels and some desktop icons with text, at say 1024x768 which can be used to show how wallpaper submissions would look in practice?
[13:15] <thorwil> kwwii, i once though of the same ... and forgot about it :)  good, just not sure about the size
[13:16] <thorwil> kwwii, one could even go so far to script it, including generating it for all common aspect ratios
[13:20] <kwwii> thorwil: yeah, I was thinking of a script to do it, as well as create the thumbnail, etc
[13:20] <kwwii> an all-in-one script
[13:20] <kwwii> I think that too many aspect ratios would be overkill though
[13:21] <kwwii> perhaps just show a 4:3 and one widescreen
[13:22] <thorwil> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/Backgrounds
[13:22] <kwwii> btw I am working on the karmic wallpaper brief, as well as a competition for a package of extra wallpapers
[13:22] <thorwil> 4:3 doesn't seem to be that common anymore
[13:22] <thorwil> cool
[13:22] <kwwii> true
[13:22] <kwwii> the point is mainly to show how the wallpaper will work with panels and icons
[13:22] <kwwii> ie in action
[13:23] <kwwii> it is easy to make a really nice pic which is unsuitable for the desktop
[13:23]  * SiDi nods.
[13:24] <thorwil> kwwii, i still have to add a XCF background template, same approach as with the SVG one
[13:24] <thorwil> saying this as a call/competition could mention it
[13:28] <kwwii> thorwil: yeah, I'm going to be sending several emails once I get all the info together
[13:28] <kwwii> I have some other ideas as well :)
[13:50] <kwwii> hehe, nice moon icon...could have just used this as well: https://launchpad.net/~inkscape-nightly
[13:50] <kwwii> (without the inkscape logo naturally)
[13:50]  * kwwii takes a break
[14:07] <dashua> SiDi: Sup mate?
[14:07] <SiDi> heya :)
[14:07] <SiDi> fine, you ?
[14:09] <dashua> Good, sorry I was busy with some things.  Buying a new house, so I have a lot going on.
[14:09] <SiDi> heh :)
[14:09] <dashua> I had a ping the other day
[14:09] <dashua> Didn't get back to you.
[14:10] <SiDi> yeh
[14:10] <SiDi> i mailed you a change i made about alvaro's panel
[14:10] <SiDi> don't know if you got it :p
[14:10] <dashua> Oh, I added those changes you sent me on irc
[14:10] <dashua> Looks good :)
[14:11] <SiDi> i think i changed them again, not sure :p
[14:11] <dashua> Got it
[14:11] <dashua> Thx
[14:11] <SiDi> gonna upload a pic, tell me if its what it looks like ^^
[14:12] <SiDi> http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8325/foo.png
[14:14] <dashua> Nice
[14:30] <dashua> http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/13698/screenshot_006_qhUmnx.png
[14:30] <dashua> Great. Added :)
[14:33] <dashua> panel prelights look much better
[14:37] <SiDi> woohoo looks sexy on gnome
[14:37] <SiDi> oh btw the fonts aint bold on xfce ;) i dunno if its volunteer or not
[14:49] <dashua> No ,its defined in the gtkrc
[14:49] <dashua> Not sure how it translates in Xfce
[14:49] <SiDi> doesnt work :P
[14:50] <SiDi> I'm not sure the panel accepts bold fonts
[14:54] <kwwii> thorwil, everyone: what do you think of including a set of background based on adjectives instead of the typical photographic conventions like nature, etc?
[14:55] <kwwii> so something like "fun" for instance
[14:56] <SiDi> emotions / atmospheres ?
[14:56] <kwwii> right
[14:56] <SiDi> I think it could be better
[14:57] <kwwii> SiDi: ok, how would you make it bettr?
[14:57] <SiDi> for instance i dont care if my background is a place, an animal, etc, as long as its "modern" and well polished
[14:58] <thorwil> kwwii, adjectives, slogans, art-styles ...
[14:58] <SiDi> the problem is about categorizing the wallpapers, but apart from that, sorting them according to what we think they're designed for could be interesting
[14:58] <kwwii> SiDi: right, modern could be one of the adjectives
[14:58] <thorwil> SiDi, modern and polish does narrow it down so much that only the titanic could still slip through
[14:58] <SiDi> (and i honnestly think canonical SHOULD get some high quality photos and ship them as wallpapers)
[14:59] <SiDi> thorwil: its not modern anymore :D
[14:59] <thorwil> kwwii, or postmodern? ;>
[14:59] <SiDi> or post mortem :O
[14:59] <kwwii> :p
[15:31] <SiDi> thorwil kwwii dashua have a nice day
[23:35]  * _MMA_ waves
[23:36] <SiDi> Heya Cory
[23:36] <_MMA_> yo yo
[23:36] <SiDi> wow, you didnt join this chan for ages :)
[23:37] <_MMA_> I started a new job. Been *real* busy. But the money has been well worth it. I'm still very active on the list.
[23:38] <SiDi> I'm quite busy too, but i don't even gain money from my work :P
[23:39] <_MMA_> Too bad.
[23:40] <_MMA_> 55hr work weeks so far here. Real good money. Will allow me to pay things off in a hurry and buy some toys. ;)
[23:40] <SiDi> Wow
[23:40] <SiDi> 55hours is a lot :p Last time i worked i stopped at 43 and it was already too much (but wasnt really comp sci tho x_x)
[23:41] <_MMA_> I'm gonna buy the kids a Wii then Ill get myself 2 new 20' monitors. Those beside my 24" I'll have a 20"/24"/20" setup. :P
[23:41] <SiDi> Heh
[23:41]  * _MMA_ works with his hands. Custom metal fabrication.
[23:41] <SiDi> Ouch
[23:42] <SiDi> I was working on a cardboard factory :P
[23:42] <_MMA_> It's not bad. Pretty fun actually. Lots of math and I get to use big tools. ;)
[23:42] <SiDi> easier to work on and carry than metal
[23:43] <_MMA_> Ok well I'm gonna run. I'll idle. Gotta go out but will make a Breathe update later.
[23:44] <SiDi> Have fun :P


[16:05] <malv> so I am trying to benchmark my matrix multiply function. When I turn on -O3 the time it takes for a billion 3x3 matrix multiplies is 0
[16:05] <malv> why is this?
[16:06] <maddernick> compiler optimized something away?
[16:07] <malv> but what might do that
[16:08] <maddernick> look at the ASM output
[16:11] <malv> figured it out
[16:11] <malv> only seems to compute the matrix if I print it out at the end
[16:13] <maddernick> its clever like that ;)
[19:39] <Unit193> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/988485  Anyone hit this_  Seems to be a bit slower, but could be the other things running.