[00:01] <Scunizi> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9648309/
[00:02] <yofel> that's all?
[00:02] <Scunizi> yep.. that's all of it.
[00:02] <Scunizi> I did it direct from the command line using | pastebinit
[00:03] <Unit193> apt-get -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=1 dist-upgrade 2>&1 | pastebinit
[00:03] <yofel> ah, please redirect stderr as well ( ... 2>&1 | pastebinit)
[00:08] <Scunizi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9648326/
[00:09] <yofel> thanks
[00:09] <Scunizi> more complete for you?
[00:11] <yofel> yeah, that's what I needed
[00:14] <yofel> Scunizi: there's nothing you can do about digikam right now, needs a fixed package
[00:14] <yofel> please wait a couple hours
[00:15] <Scunizi> ok.. no problem.  Thanks for looking and letting me know.  I'm always in a fog when it comes to this stuff.
[01:03] <Voyage>  I cannot use wireless. Its disabled. I guess I do not have drivers on my fresh install. How can I fix it?
[01:06] <soee> Voyage: do you have network manager loaded ?
[01:07] <Voyage> network manager? its the computer icon in task bar?
[01:08] <Voyage> soee:  yes, I guess. but it is not enabling wifi
[01:08] <soee> i think yes, what Kubuntu version ae you runing ?
[01:08] <Voyage> ~$ lspci -vnn | grep Network 0c:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[01:10] <soee> Voyage: maybe try to ask on #ubuntu im not to familiar with this stuff :) it just works for me
[01:10] <soee> but im on Plasma 5
[01:10] <Voyage> k
[03:29] <Grudge> hey, i'm new on linux/kubuntu
[03:29] <Grudge> how can i install programs?
[03:29] <bsdtux> grudge: you can use the Muon Discover to install applications
[03:30] <Grudge> let me check :)
[03:30] <bsdtux> or from a terminal use apt-get install <app name>  to install an application
[03:32] <Grudge> bsdtux: the complete file name?
[03:32] <Grudge> ex: Sublime Text 2.0.2 x64.tar
[03:33] <Grudge> apt.get install Sublime Text 2.0.2 x64.tar
[03:33] <Grudge> ?
[03:33] <bsdtux> nope would be sudo apt-get install sublime-text. You can also search from the command line using sudo apt-cache search sublime
[03:34] <Grudge> it works :D
[03:35] <Grudge> thanks
[03:35] <bsdtux> No problem.
[03:42] <bsdtux> are there any mentors on this channel that could give me some advice on a path? I can't decided between packaging or development as a way to start contributing
[03:44] <somekool> Grudge: when I dont know the exact name, I do $ aptitude search partial_name
[03:44] <somekool> then $ sudo apt-get install full_name
[03:44] <somekool> bsdtux: I think it depends more on your interested, what you want to learn
[03:45] <somekool> you could pick up JJ (junior) bugs from the bugs.kde.org if you are interested in C++,
[03:45] <bsdtux> well I am a linux sys admin by day but I really want to move over to development. So I want to learn more about development but I worry that I may require more hand holding than someone has the time for
[03:46] <somekool> have you look at this page ? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved
[03:46] <bsdtux> but I also really have a twitch for knownledge on how packages are created so I could do my own
[03:47] <bsdtux> thanks somekool, I was reading that page a few minutes ago. Thinking of going through the MOTU
[03:47] <somekool> making .deb packages => https://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian
[03:48] <bsdtux> I have built some apps with python though. Like my datacenter shutdown scripts and recently a port scanner
[03:48] <somekool> for opensource contributation, its best to scratch your own itch. what is painful/annoying to you ? fix it.
[03:48] <bsdtux> gotcha.
[03:49] <somekool> Junior bugs on KDE https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=JJ
[03:50] <somekool> there is plasma bindings for a lot of languages too, you could write an applet in the language of your choice
[03:50] <bsdtux> cool. So those would be bugs that a junior developer should be able to fix correct
[03:50] <somekool> also, test drive Vivid, bug report
[03:50] <somekool> correcgt.
[03:50] <bsdtux> great. Thanks for the point in the right direction. I will work on getting setup and going tomorrow. Thanks somekool. That really helps
[03:51] <somekool> np
[03:51] <somekool> enjoy whats left of 2014 and happy new year
[04:39] <derekc> anyone have any ideas why suspend to ram isnt waking up on 14.1?
[07:02] <ceibal_> hola
[07:04] <soee> hiho
[07:04] <Natu> privado¡?
[07:04] <soee> !uy
[08:48] <parsnip> Hi, can I make some shortcut like '/usr/bin/konsole mutt' ? This syntax isn't working.
[11:38] <jubo2> Hi and thanks for the Kubuntu
[11:39] <jubo2> I'd like a method of inputting a 'c' with a cedilla ( little hook under it )
[11:40] <jubo2> I have a friend who long time ago gave me something that I run with something like "sh .xinitrc"
[11:40] <jubo2> that coded it to me pressing Alt-Gr + comma and then the 'c' or 'C' and there would reliably be a cedilla
[11:41] <jubo2> sry.. not alt gr, the weird metakey between Alt Gr and Ctrll
[11:41] <jubo2> but I lost that in a system migration
[11:42] <jubo2> didn't copy the dot-files from home dir. beginners fault
[12:33] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning all and a Happy New Year!
[13:11] <joan> Hi, it seems I removed the whole taskbar when I only wanted to delete one icon. How can I recover it?
[13:15] <BluesKaj_> joan, right click on the desktop, add panel
[13:18] <BluesKaj_> oops sorry I misread joan, add widget instead of panel.
[13:43] <joan> BluesKaj_, I lost everything no "K" button, nothing
[13:44] <BluesKaj_> joan, ok so you lost the panel, right click on the desktop , choose add panel
[13:44] <joan> default panel or blank panel?
[13:44] <BluesKaj_> default
[13:45] <joan> oh
[13:45] <joan> thanx
[13:45] <joan> :)
[13:45] <BluesKaj_> you'll proly need to rebuild it with your choice of widgets
[13:45] <joan> yeah, but it isn't as problem
[13:46] <BluesKaj_> good
[13:46] <joan> you've been so helpful,
[13:46] <joan> thank you
[13:46] <BluesKaj_> you're welcom , that's what we're here for
[13:47] <BluesKaj_> err welcome
[14:28] <Heisenberg> Hi there
[14:28] <RaSTuS> A Very Happy New Year to all the Kubuntuans, just finished watching the New Year's fireworks in Sydney, awesome show, catch if you can.
[14:30] <Heisenberg14> you too RaSTuS
[14:32] <RaSTuS> Cheers Heisenberg14, party on.
[14:35] <Heisenberg14> :)
[14:36] <Heisenberg14> at 11.35 am here. remain 12 hours of 2014
[14:37] <Walex> Happy new year to people in the Pacific area!
[14:45] <Tarin> 8 hours to go for me
[14:53] <mparillo> As of 12/30/2014 at 9:12 pm, KFN is back on-line. Our apologize for the extended time KFN was not available to you.I took KFN off-line on 12/27/2014, 8:12 pm, because of numerous php errors being reported. As of this evening, I believe these have all been fixed.Thank you for your patience and continued support. https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?67116-Server-Upgrade-Migration&p=364522&viewfull=1#post364522
[14:57] <BluesKaj_> ok mparillo good stuff :)
[15:02] <Evpok> Ahoj. Is there someone knowledgeable on Kubuntu CI here?
[15:03] <Evpok> I wondered why there was no updates on https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-daily
[15:06] <BluesKaj_> Evpok, ask in #kubuntu-devel
[17:01] <Heisenberg14> i have problem
[17:01] <Heisenberg14> :(
[17:01] <BluesKaj> just state your issue
[17:01] <Walex> Heisenberg14: lucky you! Some people instead have really bad solutions they have to live with.
[17:03] <Heisenberg14> reboot, brb
[17:19] <ildefonso> and X keeps leaking RAM like mad as long as I have desktop effects enabled :(
[17:32] <BluesKaj> ildefonso, which gpu?
[17:33] <ildefonso> BluesKaj, AMD R9 270x
[17:34] <ildefonso> funny enough, it doesn't leak memory if I use compiz (but compiz doesn't behave very well with kde)
[17:38] <BluesKaj> ildefonso, dunno why you would need compiz, but i haven't heard of this problem with newer kubuntus
[17:39] <bsdtux> On KUbuntu 14.10 I can't seem to find Passwords and Encryption Keys. I am trying to follow this guide https://launchpad.net/+help-registry/openpgp-keys.html. Can someone point me in the correct position
[17:39] <ildefonso> BluesKaj, I tried compiz to isolate the problem, and I only observe the problem while using kwin with desktop effects enabled.
[17:39] <ildefonso> BluesKaj, and, of course, upon observing that it works fine with compiz, I considered using it instead of kwin for the time being, but it has too many compatibility issues.
[17:40] <ildefonso> and I just do not like gnome nor unity.
[17:40] <ildefonso> less than 3.5 hours uptime, and X is already close to 2GB :(
[17:44] <BluesKaj> ildefonso, is this 14.10
[17:46] <ildefonso> this is 14.04
[17:46] <ildefonso> BluesKaj, which gpu do you use?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> nvidia 8400gs on the desktop and intel on this laptop
[17:53] <BluesKaj> ildefonso, personally when purchasing new computers in the last 10 yrs I've stayed with nvidia or intel gpus where possible, due to my problems with ati/amd graphics previously on linux
[17:55] <ildefonso> yeah, historically nvidia has had better linux support.  I bought this one because can be used for GPGPU computing, whereas most (cheap) nvidia cards has to be "hacked" somehow to do so.
[17:59] <BluesKaj> well. my pc is used as a HTPC so the cheaper cards serve the purpose since we're not gamers
[18:00] <ildefonso> I am not a big gamer, but I am trying to work with OpenCL.
[18:42] <ShalokShalom> kubuntu 1404 goes into sleep here and return always in busy box
[18:42] <ShalokShalom> cant restore data in life stick because of that
[20:08] <Danie^> Found memtest86+ image: /memtest86+.bin <-- Have this message in console when use sudo dpkg --configure -a
[20:36] <Walex> current AMD/ATi drivers on Linux and X11 are pretty good in my experience, especially the free sw ones.
[20:36] <Walex> but I don't know whether that applies to OpenCL with LLVM, but I suspect so.
[21:35] <arthurfiggis> hello :) does anyone know what desktop "effect" is the one which, if you move the cursor to the top left of the screen, allows you to easily switch between windows? it's a bit of an annoyance when playing full-screen games, occasionally moving the mouse up to the corner of a game screen will bring up the window switcher
[21:35] <arthurfiggis> (been looking around at the ones enabled but none of them seem to be the right one)
[21:36] <bprompt> arthurfiggis:    you mean the next "workspace" ?
[21:37] <arthurfiggis> bprompt: i don't think so...maybe i should explain better, say you have three or four windows open already...if you move to the top left of the screen with the cursor it'll sort of "zoom out" and allow you to switch between those different windows by clicking on them
[21:37] <arthurfiggis> (unless that is switching workspaces, in which case you're probably right :) )
[21:38] <bprompt> hmmmm maybe is not that
[21:39] <arthurfiggis> bprompt: i don't have any virtual desktops enabled so that was my thought, but I'll take a look anyway, thanks...i was assuming it was a desktop effect but flipping the individual ones on and off doesn't seem to do much :(
[21:41] <Scunizi> Under Window Management in the Effects section is "Present Windows" .. I think that is what you're looking for.
[21:41] <Scunizi> arthurfiggis: ^--^
[21:41] <bprompt> hmmm
[21:42] <bprompt> I'm  on 12.04.... and I think that'd be as Scunizi  in 14.04 maybe... in 12.04   would be under "window behaviour > task switcher"
[21:42] <arthurfiggis> Scunizi: aha...yep that's the one, as soon as i turned that one off everything's fine again :) much appreciated! that's what i get for not checking the bottom of the list i guess ;)
[22:43] <yvear> how do I set up programs to execute with root permissions? i.e. right now I must do 'kdesudo gvim' but I just want to click gvim once on its desktop icon  I tried making a shell script with these 2 lines:
[22:43] <yvear> #!/bin/sh
[22:43] <yvear> kdesudo gvim
[22:44] <yvear> but it opens only as normal user as if kdesudo isn't used
[22:44] <yvear> * gui programs


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[00:37] <Belgrad> Hi to everyone.
[00:37] <Belgrad> I have problem:
[00:37] <Belgrad> Suspend and hibernate does not work on resume.
[00:37] <Belgrad> I have created a permanent swap file of 12GB on memory of 4 RAM. I ve tried some fixes with installing Nvidia driver 470, I think, and prior purging the all Nvidia, but it worked only for 2 times, the third time was X screen from suspend.
[00:37] <Belgrad> What to do, from where to begin?
[00:55] <guiverc> Belgrad, providing OS & release details may help. also if device is BIOS/csm or uEFI


[02:06] <jelmer> lifeless: Hi
[02:06] <jelmer> lifeless: Sorry, DebConf network went away yesterday
[02:11] <mwhudson> wow, the new picker thingy is shiny
[02:20] <wgrant> Does it work for branches yet?
[02:21] <wgrant> Ah, it does. It sucks less than the old one.
[02:29] <mwhudson> this is (a) true (b) not hard
[02:30] <wgrant> Although it needs improvement.
[02:31] <wgrant> "Please enter at least 3 characters."
[02:31] <wgrant> How arbitrary.
[02:33] <mwhudson> yes
[02:33] <mwhudson> patches very very welcome in this area, i think :)
[04:12] <wgrant> Mmmm. Why are the 3.0 announcement edit actions on the bottom, not the side?
[04:13] <wgrant> (they are nice, though)
[06:25] <jms1989> what would cause a ssl error when access the lp testing environment on <IP_ADDRESS> (launchpad.dev)?
[06:26] <jms1989> I get (Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long)
[06:28] <wgrant> jms1989: Possibly trying to use the wrong port.
[06:29] <jms1989> I am accessing it at https://launchpad.dev. that should automatically use port 443.
[06:32] <jms1989> I'm not sure what I did wrong, I followed the instructions to get it working.
[06:34] <jms1989> I'm using links and firefox to test it. both fail at the ip and domain level.
[06:37] <wgrant> Possibly Apache segfaulting - try restarting it.
[06:37] <wgrant> Just reloading after installing mod_python seems to cause problems.
[06:37] <mwhudson> jms1989: maybe apache isnt set up right?
[06:37] <mwhudson> i think serving plain http on port 443 will do that
[06:37] <wgrant> That was my suspicion
[06:38] <wgrant> But a similar thing can happen when the child segfaults, which happens if you rocketfuel-setup on a fresh Apache.
[06:38] <mwhudson> really?
[06:38] <jms1989> its a fresh install. think it was cause by the ubuntu installer installing lamp and ssh server at the install stage?
[06:38] <mwhudson> rocketfuel-setup doesn't activate mod_python, does it?
[06:39] <wgrant> wgrant: It doesn't? Hm/
[06:39] <wgrant> Maybe it was another module.
[06:39] <wgrant> Er.
[06:39] <wgrant> mwhudson: ^^
[06:39]  * wgrant looks harder.
[06:39] <jms1989> how can
[06:39] <mwhudson> jms1989: try sudo apache2ctl restart, read the error.log and if that doesn't work pastebin /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/local-launchpad
[06:39] <jms1989> I find out if mod_python is enabled?
[06:40] <wgrant> I certainly had it segfaulting after rf-setup reloaded it.
[06:40] <wgrant> restarting fixed it.
[06:42] <jms1989> restarting apache says that /var/tmp/bazaar.launchpad.dev/static/ and /var/tmp/ppa doesn't exist.
[06:42] <wgrant> That's fine.
[06:43] <wgrant> The latter is my fault, but it shouldn't be a problem.
[06:45] <jms1989> http://jms-bin.pastebin.ca/1514582
[06:53] <jms1989> hmm, after redoing the build process, I'm getting an error saying qrunner isn't running but the line above is says it shutdown qrunner. I'm confused.
[07:01] <wgrant> That's normal.
[07:01] <wgrant> For me it then proceeds to start everything up.
[07:02] <jms1989> logging out and restarting the process didn't work. ssl still fails. Id I access http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ directly, I get a page saying nothing exist on that address.
[07:14] <jms1989> ttyl, going to bed.


[01:42] <jcastro> test
[01:42] <jcastro> test
[01:43] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: test succeeded
[01:43] <jcastro> hi!
[01:43] <JoseeAntonioR> hey! long time I haven't seen you over here
[01:43] <jcastro> I've been on vacation
[01:43] <jcastro> but I start back up tomorrow
[01:44] <snap-l> jcastro: Are you back in MI?
[01:44] <snap-l> Because if so, we have you signed up for the next 4 months of MUG. ;)
[01:44] <snap-l> making up for lost time
[01:56] <jcastro> snap-l: yeah I'm back, not settled down yet though
[01:56] <snap-l> That's OK.
[01:57] <snap-l> You're totally signed up.
[01:57] <snap-l> ;)
[01:57] <snap-l> (Though we'd love for you to talk if you're available)
[01:57] <JoseeAntonioR> we also have onair for beta and final pending
[01:58] <jcastro> nod
[02:29] <cjohnston> jcastro: !
[02:29] <SergioMeneses> JoseeAntonioR, great!
[02:29] <mhall119> run away
[02:29] <SergioMeneses> hello jcastro !
[02:48] <nigelb> Hey jcastro
[02:50] <cjohnston> nigelb: !
[02:50] <nigelb> oh no!
[02:50]  * nigelb hides
[02:50] <nigelb> :P
[07:02] <dholbach> good morning
[07:03] <philballew> morning dholbach
[07:04] <dholbach> hi philballew
[07:58] <czajkowski> morning folks
[13:05] <jcastro> \o/
[13:06] <jcastro> hey every body!
[13:06] <mhall119> hi doctor nick!
[13:08] <dpm> hey jcastro and mhall119 :)
[13:08] <jcastro> alright, finally all back together!
[13:08] <dpm> \m/
[13:08] <dpm> mhall119, I read the blog post, nice one!
[13:09] <mhall119> thanks
[13:09] <mhall119> fun to see we made HackerNews too
[13:09] <dpm> yeah!
[13:09] <dpm> mind you, the comments on ubuntu-devel were a bit more useful than the ones on HN :)
[13:10]  * mhall119 isn't really surprised
[13:10] <mhall119> if only we can get on Slashdot, then we'll get useful, intelligent comments
[13:10] <dpm> lol
[13:38] <jcastro> marcoceppi: dang, I didn't know omg started using cloudfront too
[13:38] <marcoceppi> jcastro: yeah, they've been using that for a while
[13:38] <marcoceppi> that happened when they moved to Amazon RDS
[13:38] <jcastro> ah, so for a while now then
[13:39] <jcastro> I wonder if the cut in page size will be offset by RDS costs.
[13:39] <marcoceppi> I don't think the page size has anything to do with RDS?
[13:39] <jcastro> no, but his bandwidth cost is lower
[13:39] <jcastro> he went from like average page size of 2.1mb to like 900k
[13:40] <jcastro> "wooo, I cut my bandwidth bill in half! Doh, my db bill..."
[13:40] <marcoceppi> jcastro: I guess any caching will cut down reads to the db, so probably
[13:41] <marcoceppi> but now you're paying for cloudfront, it's a double edged sword
[13:41] <jcastro> yeah
[13:41] <marcoceppi> IIRC, you pay for the bandwidth out of cloudfront, but you always pay for the bandwidth cloudfront uses to pull the content from the server
[13:41] <jcastro> I was going to say, RDS is probably smart if you're caching a bunch and don't need to hit it
[13:42] <jcastro> I wonder if cloudfront is better for him than just using cloudflare for free
[13:42] <jcastro> which seemed to work fine
[13:42] <jcastro> but shrug, if the new ads are bringing in more cash to offset it it's just a big-league bill.
[13:43] <marcoceppi> indeed
[13:43] <marcoceppi> jcastro: Now we need to get him to use the new WordPress charm ;)
[13:43] <jcastro> nod
[13:43] <jcastro> has brandon been around lately?
[13:43] <jcastro> need that nginx goodness too
[13:45] <marcoceppi> jcastro: Haven't seen him recently, maybe on vacation
[13:56] <cjohnston> jcastro: did you see the comments wondering how much a juju deployed WP was on EC2 a month?
[13:56] <cjohnston> Not omg
[13:56] <cjohnston> but a normal one
[13:56] <jcastro> oh
[13:56] <jcastro> 2 smalls or whatever?
[13:56] <jcastro> too much for a single person blog. :)
[13:57] <daker> FYI: the email from canonical is marked as spam on gmail
[13:57] <cjohnston> that's what I thought
[13:57] <cjohnston> daker: what mail?
[13:57] <daker>  UDS sponsorship response
[13:57] <SergioMeneses> daker, it is a massive email, i guess
[13:57] <cjohnston> ahh.. it was for me as well..
[13:57] <daker> no SergioMeneses it's from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:58] <czajkowski> it's coming from eventbite
[13:58] <SergioMeneses> daker, ok
[13:58] <czajkowski> so it's a lot of HTML if you have HTML turned on
[13:58] <jcastro> maybe we should tell people to check for that
[13:58] <SergioMeneses> czajkowski, hello! thanks for the information
[13:59] <czajkowski> hello my friend :) hows the arm SergioMeneses
[14:00] <pleia2> heh, yeah, it went to spam
[14:00] <SergioMeneses> czajkowski, better! I can use my hand now
[14:00]  * czajkowski hugs pleia2
[14:01] <SergioMeneses> pleia2, \o
[14:01]  * pleia2 hugs
[14:01] <pleia2> hey SergioMeneses :)
[14:01] <czajkowski> SergioMeneses: this is good to hear!
[14:03] <SergioMeneses> sure, I can work better now
[14:03] <czajkowski> glad to hear it
[14:07] <cjohnston> jcastro: I talked to Marianna and we are looking into it
[14:18] <czajkowski> cjohnston: I *think* there is a way to send text based only but it's by default HTML
[14:18] <czajkowski> thunderbird for me strips it out which makes reading it hard so I just turned on HTML and then all the links work
[14:19] <cjohnston> :-/  It's too late now unless she sends it out again.. I guess someone in Canonical knows alot about eventbrite so she is asking him his thoughts
[14:23] <czajkowski> grand
[14:23] <czajkowski> you can resend stuff it's rather handy that way
[14:23] <czajkowski> but that may confuse people
[14:23] <cjohnston> Hopefully something can be figured out
[14:23]  * czajkowski loves eventbrite
[14:23] <cjohnston> ya.. agreed
[14:31] <jcastro> yeah it's nice to use eventbrite.
[14:32] <jcastro> cjohnston: an easy fix for next time is to mention that the invite will come from eventbrite in the application form
[14:32] <cjohnston> So I have to fix eventbrites failure?
[14:41] <czajkowski> cjohnston: it's not an eventbrite failure at all
[14:41] <czajkowski> just people aren't used to it
[14:42] <czajkowski> so hardly their fault
[14:42] <cjohnston> I get plenty of HTML emails that don't go straight to spam... so what makes this one different
[14:43] <czajkowski> it's a large mail I suspect
[14:43] <czajkowski> didnt go to my spam ac
[14:57] <dholbach> hey Jono
[14:58] <jono> hey dholbach
[14:58] <jono> will be two mins and then will fire it up
[14:58] <dholbach> great
[15:03] <jono> dholbach, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/68082924a69c7784ef98abbf1a39a35390ddc918?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[15:18] <philballew> jono, If I did not get uds sponsorship, do I get an email telling me I did not?
[15:19] <jono> philballew, indeed
[15:19] <philballew> Hum, alright. no email either way yet.
[15:19] <cjohnston> philballew: don't know if you saw the earlier conversation... make sure to check your spam folder
[15:20] <philballew> oh, odd cjohnston will do.
[15:20] <czajkowski> especially if you're using gmail it seems
[15:20] <cjohnston> philballew: gmail has been marking them spam
[15:20] <czajkowski> cjohnston: nice dekstop client works wonderfully well :p
[15:20]  * cjohnston hates desktop clients
[15:21] <philballew> ah, no email either way in spam or regular folder.
[15:21] <philballew> They want to wait a while to deny me I see.
[15:26] <jono> dholbach, oops, was a bit trigger happy on the Exit buttonthere
[15:26] <jono> sorry
[15:26] <jono> nothing personal, lol!
[15:27] <dholbach> jono, I 'ate you!
[15:27] <jono> hah
[15:27] <dholbach> :)
[15:27] <jono> dpm, all set?
[15:28] <dpm> jono, yep!
[15:28] <jono> dpm, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/85ab0ca89b05f16b4029d212c4ed881d54e26831?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[15:37] <mhall119> running out to pickup some lunch, be back in a few
[16:02] <cjohnston> Hopefully mhall119 won't cause us any problems... http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201213.html
[16:44] <dholbach> I'll now go and catch the last rays of the sun in the park - see you tomorrow :)
[16:45] <czajkowski> toodles dholbach
[16:45] <dholbach> bye :)
[16:53] <balloons> cjohnston, lol.. It's way too far out there
[17:08] <jono> balloons, can we hop on a call?
[17:09] <balloons> jono, yep
[17:10] <jono> balloons, https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/381937b83449c545de209780711f81d65a94674f?authuser=0&hl=en-US
[17:40] <doctormot> What time zone schedule is pitti on?
[17:41] <jcastro> germany usually
[17:44] <jcastro> <--- lunch, bbi 15
[17:44] <doctormot> Thanks jcastro, must be alseep atm.
[17:55] <doctormot> Does anyone know of any other pygobject experts? got a problem.
[17:57] <bkerensa> mhall119: so when I am trying to import the schematics of the mysql db its not doing anything.... I am unsure if this is a bug in the latest code base for kitsune because a RHEL use had the same issue the other day
[17:57] <czajkowski> doctormon: perhaps mail him, he's usuall good at gettin back to people
[17:58] <mhall119> doctormon: what's the problem?
[17:58] <mhall119> bkerensa: but no errors either?
[17:59] <bkerensa> mhall119: none
[17:59] <bkerensa> and no output
[17:59] <bkerensa> =/
[17:59] <doctormon> mhall119: Have a vala based Clutter Effect, but getting "must be called with BackgroundEffect instance as first argument" error in python.
[17:59] <bkerensa> mhall119: If I setup you up a shell account with sudo might you have a peak?
[17:59] <doctormon> Even though the call is on the instance.
[17:59] <bkerensa> peek*
[18:01] <mhall119> bkerensa: I'm afraid I'd be no help, do the mozilla devs have any ideas?
[18:02] <bkerensa> mhall119: I will ping them again since it was over the weekend
[18:03] <mhall119> doctormon: what's the class/method you're calling?
[18:05] <czajkowski> mhall119: https://plus.google.com/102921374554385564572/posts/1b1VBfGmjZL
[18:05] <mhall119> czajkowski: it is indeed a pugduck day
[18:05] <czajkowski> it's epic :)
[18:07] <doctormon> mhall119: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~doctormo/csslavie/vala/files/head:/clutensions/ BackgroundEffect either set_background or set_border
[18:11] <mhall119> doctormon: and you're trying to use BackroundEffect from Python?
[18:11] <doctormon> mhall119: That's right
[18:11] <doctormon> via GIR
[18:15] <mhall119> doctormon: sorry, thought maybe I'd be able to help, but that's beyond my GIR knowledge
[18:16] <doctormon> mhall119: Yeah, I need a level 20 gir wizard to cast this spell.
[18:16] <doctormon> Thanks for your help :-)
[18:17] <mhall119> doctormon: does Effect provide a constructor?
[18:17] <doctormon> I thought so... but perhaps you've hit something, the guide I'm following is C based.
[18:18] <mhall119> according to the big or GIR parsing I've done, Effect inherets from ActionMeta, neither of which provide a constructor
[18:18] <mhall119> in fact, you have to go to subclasses of OffscreenEffect (itself a subclass or Effect) before I see any constructors
[18:19] <mhall119> for example, BlurEffect
[18:48] <doctormon> mhall119: You were right, adding a construct fixed the issue, although my painting isn't yet working.
[18:48] <doctormon> mhall119: Turns our your level 20 after all.
[18:54] <mhall119> heh, not hardly
[18:54] <mhall119> level 10, maybe, with a lucky roll
[18:55]  * mhall119 makes an attempt at a DnD joke, though I don't know if that's how it actually works
[19:32] <doctormon> mhall119: http://docs.clutter-project.org/docs/clutter-cookbook/1.0/effects-basic.html Where in this code it talks about cb_background_effect_class_init with it replacing methods in the parent class.
[19:32] <doctormon> Is that something I should do in vala?
[19:39] <mhall119> doctormon: I'm not familiar enough with Vala to know for sure, but you may need separate constructor (new) and initializer (init) methods for your class
[19:41] <mhall119> oh wait, _class_init, that should probably done by Vala for you, since it has a proper concept of Classes
[19:49] <doctormon> mhall119: That's right, there is an init, but I'm worried about specifically the part where it's messing about with pre_paint
[19:58] <mhall119> doctormon: that looks like it's a C requirement, not something you'd need to do in Vala
[19:58] <mhall119> but again, I'm level 0 when it comes to Vala
[19:59] <doctormon> mhall119: It doesn't appear in the C output, and the pre_paint code is never called... suggesting a missing something.
[19:59] <doctormon> Thanks for the help again, I'll check out #vala
[20:29] <cjohnston> ///49
[20:34] <mhall119> needs more /
[20:45] <doctormon> mhall119: I used the wrong method, I used new when I should have used override.
[20:45] <cjohnston> needs summit reviews
[21:23] <mhall119> czajkowski: do you know of anything weird with Launchpad's search functions?
[21:24] <czajkowski> what do you mean weird and where ?
[21:24] <mhall119> trying to find people by name isn't giving me any results
[21:24] <mhall119> https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=Michael+Hall&field.actions.search=Search for example
[21:24] <czajkowski> https://launchpad.net/people
[21:24] <czajkowski> is how you search for people
[21:25] <mhall119> ah, cool
[21:25] <mhall119> didn't know there was a separate place to search
[21:26] <AlanBell> 2347 people called Alan \o/
[23:01] <bkerensa> mhall119: I am pretty much giving up on this SUMO if I cannot get it sorted by friday
[23:01] <bkerensa> its been buggy so far
[23:01] <bkerensa> I have it up and running but login/registration is not working
[23:02] <bkerensa> and the Sumo Devs seem to have been re-assigned to new projects by Mozilla perhaps
[23:02] <pleia2> wiki4ever
[23:04] <bkerensa> noes
[23:04] <pleia2> that is disappointing though
[23:04] <bkerensa> :(
[23:04] <bkerensa> pleia2: maybe I am just running into a roadblock
[23:04] <bkerensa> idk
[23:04] <bkerensa> ;p
[23:04] <bkerensa> pleia2: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000/en-US/users/register
[23:05] <bkerensa> can u try and register?
[23:05] <bkerensa> Its not letting me login or do anything despite I see my user info in the MySQL table
[23:05] <pleia2> Access denied
[23:05] <bkerensa> kk
[23:06]  * bkerensa kills instance and rage quits
[23:06] <bkerensa> jk
[23:06] <pleia2> har
[23:06] <daker> bkerensa: what's the problem ?
[23:08] <pleia2> daker: oh! I had a question
[23:08] <daker> pleia2: which is ?
[23:08] <pleia2> for LTP, "make test" fails for me, but "make run" seems to do ok
[23:09] <pleia2> ERROR: testAdminIsATeamChecks (teams.tests.ACLChecksTestCase)
[23:09] <pleia2> Test if check for a more complicated LoCo Team setup works
[23:09] <bkerensa> I sorted it
[23:09] <bkerensa> :D
[23:09] <bkerensa> I forgot to install memcached on the server
[23:09] <daker> oh yeah i will check the tests pleia2
[23:10] <pleia2> daker: thanks, just working out the last pieces for this blog post so I tried all the INSTALL instructions on a VM
[23:10] <pleia2> realized I never ran "make test" on my own
[23:12] <bkerensa> pleia2: Best interface ever -> http://i.imgur.com/GQ5EM.png
[23:12] <bkerensa> ;p
[23:13] <daker> pleia2: i am thinking of using vagrant, so people will have to download a VM, then vagrant will do the reset, and all you have to do is start coding, and you don't have to install anything on your system
[23:13] <pleia2> daker: oh, that'd be great
[23:14] <daker> bkerensa: you are missing the media admin files
[23:15] <bkerensa> daker: hmm?
[23:17] <daker> bkerensa: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/settings/#admin-media-prefix
[23:18] <bkerensa> daker: So kitsune is missing it?
[23:21] <daker> bkerensa: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000/fr/admin-media/* 404, so django diesn't where the media files are located
[23:22] <daker> doesn't know*
[23:30] <daker> bkerensa: you can use python manage.py runserver --adminmedia=path_to_admin_media
[23:30] <daker> it's something like /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/django/contrib/admin/media/
[23:34] <daker> g'night
[23:43] <mhall119> bkerensa: that's sad to hear
[23:44] <bkerensa> mhall119: I sorted it
[23:44] <bkerensa> ;p
[23:44] <mhall119> you did? what was the issue?
[23:44] <bkerensa> although they do need to improve their documentation
[23:44] <bkerensa> mhall119: memcached
[23:44] <mhall119> memcached was blocking schema changes?
[23:45] <bkerensa> mhall119: oh that is a bug
[23:48] <bkerensa> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=788355
[23:48] <ubot2`> Mozilla bug 788355 in Code Quality "Add Announcements Gives Error" [Normal,Unconfirmed: ]


[11:13] <darkaudit> there's always apt-build ;)
[11:13] <blake> fun: i clicked the .deb file and it just opened a folder
[11:13] <ola_> Deft: oh...
[11:13] <IIIEars> I added a program to "Sessions" startup the number 50 was added automatically. - What does that number mean/
[11:14] <chillywilly> hello ubunuters
[11:14] <chillywilly> ubuntuers too
[11:14] <organon> ;)
[11:14] <chillywilly> did you know that god wrote in lisp code?
[11:14] <chillywilly> ;P
[11:14] <Funraiser> dpkg -i a file requires sudo?
[11:14] <Deft> I would think that god probably schemes
[11:14] <factorx> how can i compile a kernel with make-kpkg via menuconfig?
[11:14] <chillywilly> sure
[11:14] <darkaudit> Funraiser: yes
[11:14] <chillywilly> scheme is just a lisp dialect
[11:14] <Funraiser> blake, open a terminal
[11:15] <Deft> yes, but who would believe in a lisping god?
[11:15] <Deft> scheming on the other hand
[11:15] <chillywilly> muwahhahahhaa
[11:15] <Deft> that or brainfuck of course
[11:15] <chillywilly> I think there's a song called "god wrote in lisp code"
[11:15] <karim_> how to change channel with irssi-text ?
[11:15] <karim_> to switch channel
[11:15] <chillywilly> programs hacking programs...
[11:16] <darkaudit> factorx: http://myrddin.org/howto/debian-kernel-recompile.php
[11:16] <chillywilly> wild stuff I tell ya
[11:16] <Funraiser> blake?
[11:16] <organon> ctrl+1,2,3,etc...
[11:16] <karim_> ok
[11:16] <goldfish> ALT
[11:16] <organon> my bad, ALT!
[11:16] <darkaudit> karim_: alt+(chan #)
[11:16] <karim_> organon: it's alt
[11:16] <Tomcat_> Where can I set module parameters for hotplug loaded modules?
[11:16] <organon> gettin' tired :p
[11:16] <Funraiser> blake, knock knock
[11:16] <raydogg``> I have a script that acts on some files inside a directory... when i try to run the script inside the directory it works fine, but if i try to run the script from outside the directory it says it can't find the files... how can i fix this CWD problem ?
[11:16] <karim_> so I got a problem, when I log to gnome with hoary, I got a kernel crash
[11:16] <IIIEars> Hi goldfish!
[11:16] <factorx> thx, darkaudit
[11:17] <karim_> I have just installed it
[11:17] <organon> or /channel # :)
[11:17] <goldfish> hey IIIEars
[11:17] <goldfish> too much typing
[11:17] <karim_> the kernel is 2.6.11-1
[11:17] <organon> true
[11:17] <karim_> anyone can help ?
[11:17] <aleksander> how to edit the apache httpd.conf file?
[11:17] <organon> or alt+left/right
[11:17] <Deft> aleksander, beyond "sudo gedit httpd.conf"?
[11:18] <eruin> is there a way to sniff if a file gets deleted and replace it with another file?
[11:18] <organon> aleksander, nano -w /etc/apache/httpd.conf
[11:18] <Funraiser> goldfish, use the tab then
[11:18] <blake> i did it
[11:18] <eruin> ie realtime
[11:18] <goldfish> I'm happy with alt + num.
[11:18] <goldfish> Thanks.
[11:18] <hybrid_goth> hello all
[11:18] <Funraiser> blake, and?
[11:18] <Funraiser> blake, did u cd to Desktop?
[11:18] <Deft> eruin, inotify, dnotify etc are the things in the kernel for that
[11:19] <eruin> eek
[11:19] <blake> it did something.......if it installed it where would the file be?????
[11:19] <sjohnson> ok dudes, with reiserfs, it works to mount with "user" in fstab, but I won't it so only ME is able to mount it... reiserfs doesn't support uid or user=sjohnson
[11:19] <Deft> eruin, or just script to check every 5 seconds is the opposite end of the scale
[11:19] <eruin> hmm
[11:19] <Funraiser> blake, u have to type first: cd Desktop
[11:19] <eruin> I'll have to look into bash scripting
[11:19] <eruin> then
[11:19] <blake> ?
[11:20] <blake> you mean
[11:20] <Funraiser> blake, then type: sudo dpkg -i thefiletoinstall.deb
[11:20] <blake> that's what i typed
[11:20] <blake> i did it in root
[11:20] <Funraiser> blake, in the Desktop folder?
[11:20] <blake> no
[11:21] <eruin> in / :P
[11:21] <Funraiser> blake, your file is in which folder?
[11:21] <blake> desktop for now
[11:22] <Funraiser> blake, then open the terminal and type: cd Desktop
[11:22] <jamesio> anyone here have experience with ubuntu running the smp kernel?
[11:22] <hybrid_goth> help names
[11:23] <keffo> how was it now again.. with wget to get the folder and everything within it?
[11:23] <blake> !!
[11:23] <blake> sweet
[11:23] <Funraiser> blake, now to see if your file is there type: ls
[11:23] <blake> i didn't know how to do that
[11:24] <blake> now i do
[11:24] <Funraiser> :-)
[11:25] <hybrid_goth> lol
[11:25] <organon> keffo, is it wget -r url
[11:26] <blake> no i didn't know how to do that
[11:26] <Funraiser> blake, now type ls
[11:26] <ola_> (new-to-linux-guy, people. they exists)
[11:26] <IIIEars> Funraiser - lol - he could be for real - i asked the same question 2 weeks ago for real.
[11:26] <ola_> exist*
[11:26] <blake> but i typed dpkg -i filename
[11:26] <blake> is tha tright
[11:26] <blake> it got errors
[11:27] <blake> i got errors
[11:27] <Funraiser> blake, to make sure the file is there first type: ls
[11:27] <IIIEars> Yes - 2 weeks makes  me a seasoned newb - right?
[11:27] <blake> well ......it's on my desktop
[11:27] <blake> i see it
[11:27] <sjohnson> has ANYONE here figured out how to allow only one user to mount reiserfs in fstab?  rfs doesn't support uid,gid, or user=sjohnson
[11:27] <sjohnson> please help!!!
[11:27] <Funraiser> blake, ok then type: sudo dpkg -i thefile.deb
[11:27] <blake> ooh i forgot sudo
[11:30] <bluszcz> is here any developper ubuntu?
[11:30] <Funraiser> blake, hurry up i've got a panzer to blow
[11:30] <hybrid_goth> how do i set up this ubuntu so i can ssh to it from school?
[11:31] <tga> I'm having trouble getting a Logitech QuickCam to work with gnomemeeting
[11:31] <IIIEars> bluszcz - most are away at the moment - you gotta take your chances with us newbs - muhahahah!
[11:31] <blake> me too
[11:31] <blake> is it L OR i??
[11:31] <tga> the c-qcam module seems to use video for linux 1 and gnomemeeting wants v4l-2
[11:31] <mirak> the 2.6.11-1 kernel doesn't work here on hoary
[11:31] <bluszcz> IIIEars: come on :)
[11:31] <blake> dpkg l
[11:31] <Funraiser> blake, i small i like in install
[11:31] <blake> yeah
[11:31] <blake> brb
[11:32] <Funraiser> dpkg -r to remove
[11:33] <IIIEars> Funraiser - you are cool
[11:33] <Funraiser> well thanks
[11:33] <blake> i did it in a folder i created on the desktop and it's not there?
[11:33] <blake> why?
[11:34] <blake> it says it worked
[11:34] <Funraiser> blake, ok now click applications/run application and enter the name of the app
[11:35] <evan_> arrrgh... anyone know how to vertically center text on a page in openoffice?
[11:35] <Goliath24> hi, i'm running ubuntu on a laptop and it seems to power down the harddisk after 10 seconds... which is pretty anoying, how do I change that?
[11:36] <blake> umm
[11:36] <tga> Goliath24: take a look at hdparm
[11:36] <Funraiser> blake, ?
[11:36] <tga> Goliath24: but be careful, you can screw things up if you don't know what you're doing
[11:36] <Goliath24> tga: what is the "ubuntu-way" to configure hdparm?
[11:36] <tga> Goliath24: apt-get install hdparm, I don't know
[11:36] <Goliath24> okay
[11:36] <goldfish> no need to apt-get it
[11:36] <geogeo> ciao
[11:36] <goldfish> afaik
[11:36] <geogeo> =]
[11:36] <blake> it's accepting the comand
[11:36] <Funraiser> ciao geogeo
[11:36] <blake> but not doing anything
[11:37] <blake> ?
[11:37] <Funraiser> blake, ok type the name of the app in a terminal
[11:37] <Funraiser> blake, u'll see what's wrong this way
[11:38] <blake> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer
[11:38] <Funraiser> blake, there we are
[11:38] <blake> by any chance can i get that from aptget?
[11:39] <Funraiser> blake, now
[11:39] <Funraiser> no
[11:39] <Funraiser> one sec
[11:39] <goldfish> get the .bin from sun website
[11:39] <bluszcz> so many newbies
[11:39] <Funraiser> blake, u are trying to install limewire aren't u?
[11:39] <blake> yes
[11:39] <goldfish> lol
[11:40] <hybrid_goth> heh
[11:40] <blake> or
[11:40] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: did u get your answer?
[11:40] <blake> any high trafic p2p
[11:40] <Funraiser> blake, well just follow http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#limewire
[11:40] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: nope
[11:40] <IIIEars> lol - hey been here two whole weeks already! (harumph)
[11:40] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: do u have a static ip ?
[11:40] <holycow> IIIEars, how do you like linux so far?
[11:40] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: first u need to, apt-get install openssh-server
[11:41] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: no but it only changes weekly
[11:41] <IIIEars> Best OS yet
[11:41] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: kk
[11:41] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: once u install the openssh-server
[11:41] <IIIEars> Windowsis really only good for gaming
[11:41] <goldfish> u can ssh to your box
[11:41] <Funraiser> IIIEars, well Cedega works very well
[11:41] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: ok ty
[11:42] <Funraiser> IIIEars, i've been playing max payne 2 on my ubuntu, it works perfeclty
[11:42] <goldfish> anytime i run cedega the resolution is all borked :/
[11:42] <Goliath24> goldfish, tga: I changed the -S setting in hdparm.conf and did a /etc/init.d/hdparm restart... but still it powers down to quickly
[11:42] <IIIEars> I fought with Wine regedit last nigh - it's tough to use linux for games
[11:42] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: have you tried putty?
[11:42] <Funraiser> IIIEars, did u try Cedega?
[11:42] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: yeah
[11:42] <IIIEars> No
[11:42] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: thats because of directX
[11:43] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: i use it when im in windows
[11:43] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: how is it?
[11:43] <IIIEars> Sounds like i need it.
[11:43] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: fine.
[11:43] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: ok b/c my school runs winblow$
[11:43] <goldfish> ah right, yeah, its fine
[11:44] <goldfish> just stick in the ip, port number, connect
[11:44] <goldfish> there u go
[11:44] <IIIEars> Cedega is inexpensive - very nice
[11:44] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: are u behind a router?
[11:44] <dataw0lf|w> 'winblow$' ?
[11:44] <Funraiser> i tried like 10 game demos on ubuntu with cedega, 8 worked perfectly...see http://digital-conquest.ath.cx/wiki/index.php/Category:Games
[11:44] <hybrid_goth> ok ty soo much
[11:44] <holycow> IIIEars, glad to hear you like ubuntu :) debian/ubuntu sure make it nice easy and polished
[11:45] <holycow> IIIEars, i can't wait until we start getting support for some of the xorg features, where say the menues and windows jiggle and the like
[11:45] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: yes
[11:45] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: you might need to forward port 22 on your router
[11:45] <IIIEars> Ubuntu - is amazing.
[11:45] <hybrid_goth> dataw0lf|w: winblow$ is windows from a windows hater stand
[11:46] <artax> hola feos
[11:46] <hybrid_goth> goldfish: ok
[11:46] <Nalioth> dadblasted Tiger keeps eating my yaboot
[11:46] <dataw0lf|w> hybrid_goth: I know what it is, but I never knew an OS could 'blow'.
[11:46] <dataw0lf|w> Apparently, I'm picking up Windows tonight.
[11:46] <goldfish> hehe
[11:46] <GhostFreeman> how can I check what version of the ATI drivers I am running?
[11:46] <hybrid_goth> whats windows?
[11:46] <IIIEars> Need for Speed II is on the list of working games :)
[11:47] <dataw0lf|w> hybrid_goth: What adults say when they speak of an OS that people say is terrible but have no real reason for doing so.
[11:47] <dataw0lf|w> If you know what you're doing, an OS doesn't 'blow'.
[11:47] <dataw0lf|w> That's called 'PEBKAC'.
[11:47] <dataw0lf|w> fyi.
[11:47] <selutha> onekill
[11:47] <hybrid_goth> dataw0lf|w: blah well windows over works my fan so it blows
[11:47] <dataw0lf|w> pebkac.
[11:47] <Funraiser> yeah what's windows?
[11:47] <onekill> selutha!!
[11:48] <selutha> onekill, RAWR!
[11:48] <hybrid_goth> pebkac my ass
[11:48] <IIIEars> Windows is okay - just too many exploits aimed at it. Install, Connect, Reinstall...
[11:48] <GhostFreeman> i think its what you play games on
[11:48] <hybrid_goth> GhostFreeman: heh
[11:48] <dataw0lf|w> hybrid_goth: I doubt if pebkac applies to your ass, but whatever you say.
[11:48] <dataw0lf|w> roll with it.
[11:49] <a_peck> hey all. can you tell me where is the apache root dir by default? (apache 1.3 ubuntu hoary, installed with synaptic) can't be sure :(
[11:49] <Funraiser> i'm not going to buy Longhorn to play games though, xp and cedega will be fine for like the next 5 years
[11:49] <holycow> http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/xshots  <-- IIIEars  check that out
[11:49] <sjohnson> what file system would you recommend i format my 120 GIG drive for mp3s/ movies, etc
[11:49] <dataw0lf|w> sjohnson: ext3.
[11:49] <hybrid_goth> dataw0lf|w: you see more pebkac in linux though
[11:49] <goldfish> a_peck: /var/www/ ?
[11:49] <dataw0lf|w> hybrid_goth: Sure, especially from the ubuntu community.
[11:49] <goldfish> hmmmm maybe not
[11:49] <dataw0lf|w> I don't use Linux because of 'Winblow$'
[11:49] <a_peck> goldfish, 'tis. Thx!
[11:50] <transgress> i don't get it... why all the people that are on linux channels using hydrairc
[11:50] <dataw0lf|w> I use Linux because it's free, it's open source, and I do the majority of my contracts for Linux or Unix platforms.
[11:50] <hybrid_goth> dataw0lf|w: there is b/c linux has to be messed up by the user windows...?
[11:50] <dataw0lf|w> hybrid_goth: Are you saying Windows is idiot proof?
[11:50] <dataw0lf|w> *chuckle*
[11:50] <holycow> dataw0lf, really? sweet!  do you mind me asking what type of work?
[11:50] <GhostFreeman> internet fight
[11:50] <dataw0lf|w> Ok, brotha.
[11:50] <holycow> dataw0lf, no, windows is an idiot magnet tho
[11:50] <holycow> :)
[11:51] <dataw0lf|w> holycow: I'm a system administrator fulltime at a aerial photogrammetry / orth rectification company (Aero-Graphics), in my spare time I do low level C work, mostly.
[11:51] <hybrid_goth> dataw0lf|w: NO i am saying more problems go wrong with _windows_ the linux the linux problems are usually pebkac
[11:51] <dataw0lf|w> drivers, etc.
[11:51] <dataw0lf|w> hybrid_goth: Apparently you haven't worked in Linux long enough.
[11:51] <holycow> dataw0lf, very cool :)
[11:51] <zxc> any idea how to get X-Chat to open all your channels on start up?
[11:51] <hybrid_goth> dataw0lf|w: 0_o
[11:52] <Nalioth> zxc somewhere in the prefs is a place to put all that you wish to happen
[11:52] <dataw0lf|w> zxc: add them to whichever server in 'channels to join' like so : #channel1,#channel2,#channel3
[11:52] <dataw0lf|w> no spaces.
[11:52] <fluideye> hey guys, can anyone try and help me get sound on my notebook
[11:53] <dataw0lf|w> Anyways, I think we've had this discussion on ubuntu forums too many times regarding uneducated Windows bashing.
[11:53] <fluideye> i've tried the forums and howto and no success
[11:53] <IIIEars> Can i change the platform/application name given to IRC?
[11:53] <SuperLag> Is it possible to net install Ubuntu from floppies, like you could with Debian?
[11:53] <dataw0lf|w> IIIEars: insofar as what? Nautilus? Firefox?
[11:53] <Nalioth> SuperLag, anything is possible, but WHY?
[11:53] <garnertr> hello everyone... :)
[11:54] <Funraiser> bye all
[11:54] <hybrid_goth> SELECT * FROM windows WHERE clue >0
[11:54] <hybrid_goth> 0 rows returned
[11:54] <dataw0lf|w> Wow.
[11:54] <holycow> heh
[11:54] <SuperLag> Nalioth: because there is no CD-ROM in the machine I want to put it on
[11:54] <onekill> my problem is that i have sound but when another sound from another program (like gaim) the soud turns to static any ideas?????????????
[11:54] <IIIEars> anything that doesn't say i am new to linux and likely have misconfigured something. - lol
[11:54] <dataw0lf|w> SELECT * FROM ubuntu WHERE ubuntu.clue > debian.clue
[11:54] <dataw0lf|w> 0 rows returned
[11:55] <goldfish> lol
[11:55] <holycow> thats okay, at lest they are trying something new
[11:55] <dataw0lf|w> Hey, I like Ubuntu.
[11:55] <dataw0lf|w> And the community.
[11:55] <dataw0lf|w> thus my participation in the forums.
[11:55] <hybrid_goth> i second that
[11:55] <spiral> hmmm, does anyone here know if firefox 1.0.4 will soon be packaged for ubuntu ?
[11:55] <holycow> windows users are equally stuck up about their platform
[11:55] <garnertr> can anyone help me w/ my laptop issue?  My DVDROM is not recognized and I'm somewhat cluess as to why... tia
[11:55] <dataw0lf|w> However, it'd be a lie if we didn't admit that most people using Ubuntu are new to the Linux game.
[11:56] <hybrid_goth> holycow: heh i am very stuck up for linux
[11:56] <garnertr> that would be me!
[11:56] <onekill> I am new to linix I will admit it
[11:56] <goldfish> me too
[11:56] <garnertr> dito
[11:56] <hybrid_goth> semi-new
[11:56] <holycow> dataw0lf, looking at the questions in here, i would say ubuntu proves that you don't need technical profficiency to actually use it and configure it
[11:56] <dataw0lf|w> I've been using Linux since 1998, I just like to hassle people.
[11:56] <SuperLag> Arrogance isn't becoming for the Linux community.  It does more harm than good.
[11:56] <Nalioth> SuperLag, so nfs mount a cdrom from a neighboring machine
[11:56] <IIIEars> holycow - most windows help channels are endless hours of chat about viruses and trojan horse programs.
[11:56] <dataw0lf|w> SuperLag: I agree.
[11:56] <holycow> hybrid_goth, i'm a zealot too, but i don't preach
[11:57] <Nalioth> IIIEars, you mean "whining"?
[11:57] <holycow> SuperLag, i agree too, the basic problem is your dealing with humans
[11:57] <SuperLag> Nalioth: that doesn't eliminate the need to boot from a floppy.
[11:57] <IIIEars> lol - yes
[11:57] <holycow> IIIEars, heh *nod*
[11:57] <dataw0lf|w> Ok, that's my 5 minutes of speaking in #ubuntu.
[11:57] <Nalioth> SuperLag, floppies it is
[11:58] <yyc747> I have two questions: firstly, is the freenx server packaged for ubuntu in universe, and secondly, does the offical windows NX client have an installer, or can the client be downloaded seperately?
[11:58] <garnertr> My laptop's DVD rom is not being "seen" by Ubuntu and I don't have a clue why...
[11:59] <hybrid_goth> well thats my $.02 in ubuntu
[11:59] <dataw0lf|w> yyc747: 1) No, 2) Unsure.
[11:59] <hybrid_goth> garnertr: is it mounted
[11:59] <hybrid_goth> **have you tried to
[11:59] <garnertr> how would I determine if it is "mounted"?