[03:52] <Lambda3> Yeah, I want to do that, but in order to do that, i have to first delete a partition because an extended partition is considered a primary partition
[03:52] <L3top> You cannot disable the integrated card though, and it will likely install for and use it... installing the nvidia driver will not magically find the nvidia card. The nvidia works through the integrated, so integrated cannot be disabled
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> Lambda3: I guess taht would fly, why not :)
[03:52] <ibfrog> I tend to use (1) boot (2) swap (3) root (4) extended (x1) windows (x2) home
[03:53] <ibfrog> I think.. .. been a while since I've dual booted
[03:53] <apies> anyone use street os ?
[03:53] <ibfrog> actually... I think swap was in the extended the last time I tried this
[03:53] <Lambda3> My 3rd and 4th partitions are the windows recovery partition and a fat32 partition called "HP_TOOLS"
[03:53] <Athanasius> heh. My laptop is 75GB /, 4GB swap.
[03:53] <Athanasius> s/laptop/netbook/
[03:53] <m4t> hey, is there a way to hide the MessagingMenu completely? sure, you can remove empathy/thunderbird
[03:53] <m4t> but the whole thing?
[03:53] <Lambda3> I don't know what the last one does, so I don't want to delete it.
[03:54]  * m4t doesn't use.
[03:54] <Lambda3> which leaves only the current boot partition
[03:54]  * m4t uses irc
[03:54] <Fyodorovna> ibfrog, windows should be primary at least the OS, and no boot partition is needed on a mbr setup.
[03:55] <ibfrog> oh right right
[03:55] <wylde> Lambda3: just a quick question, did you back up all your data from windows before starting this? ;)
[03:55] <ibfrog> like I said... been a while
[03:55] <Lambda3> I suppose a better question would be does the ubuntu bootloader boot windows itself or does it defer to another partition to boot it up?
[03:55] <socrates_johnson> erujolc: okay thanks. my laptop boots about 20% of the time, but i feel better about the upgrade now once it finishes dying. (the optimus issues is a little unnerving for me, but the i7/price is too good for a grad student to pass up)
[03:55] <datruth> cool got that going
[03:55] <Fyodorovna> ibfrog, put windows on the first partition, easier to fix.
[03:55] <apies> my camera drivers not work in ubuntu 10.04
[03:55] <Lambda3> wyld, of course! :) I actually just got my laptop today, so I have everything backed up.
[03:55] <Lambda3> wylde*
[03:56] <ibfrog> btw: Fyodorovna when did the boot partition go away... used to be standard in gentoo and it seems like its all compressed to the root partition in ubuntu
[03:56] <wylde> Lambda3: I swear that's the first positive I've gotten to that question for a long while! *claps*
[03:56] <cordoval_> ActionParsnip: cannot find my file name there 128f0c16f4734c42....52
[03:56] <Fyodorovna> ibfrog, not sure really.
[03:56] <cordoval_> it does not match any name and nor checksum
[03:56] <Waraudon> Okay I think I finally got everything working.
[03:56] <throwaway_rq> side question - does windows has somethign liek "sync" command in ubuntu (to flush buffer)
[03:56]  * ibfrog hasn't dual booted in ages
[03:56] <Waraudon> What's the recommended way to save iptables rules in Ubuntu and restore them at boot?
[03:56] <cordoval_> mine was ubuntu 12'04 desktop amd64
[03:56] <ibfrog> but the ubuntu method seems to work so far
[03:57] <allure> I'm having the same issue as this guy (http://askubuntu.com/questions/125500/upgrade-to-12-04-failed-due-to-held-back-packages) to update to 12.02 from 11.10. Does anyone have any idea on how to update then? :)
[03:57] <Lambda3> Haha, well, I'm not a complete noob. I've been using ubuntu for like 4-5 years now; although, I admit I don't know a lot about setting it up because I never had trouble with it before and had to learn all about it
[03:57] <Fyodorovna> ibfrog, the ubuntu and most linux will run in the extended.
[03:57] <Fyodorovna> probably all  linux just not sure ibfrog
[03:57] <BlueClaw> Is there a program that can tell me what is currently running? I tried to open a program and think it might be running in the background.
[03:57] <cordoval_> ActionParsnip:  ok it matches with a friend
[03:57] <cordoval_> so i am rebooting and will try with usb
[03:58] <throwaway_rq> BlueClaw: htop
[03:58] <Athanasius> Is there an ubuntu command for "automatically install everything I need to build this package from source"? like apt-something rtorrent; apt-get source rtorrent; cd rtorrent-whatever; ./configure
[03:58] <socrates_johnson> L3top: thank you for the insight and for your patience
[03:58] <sfears> BlueClaw: top
[03:58] <xangua> !compile | Athanasius
[03:58] <sfears> top | grep <program name>
[03:58] <BlueClaw> sfears: thanks!
[03:59] <ibfrog> yeah... I'm sure linux will run in extended... I just didn't follow the move to get rid of a boot partition.   Kinda seems like its an isolation method that ubuntu / canonical decided to get rid of more than anything else
[03:59] <apies> where can i find drivers camera ubuntu ?
[03:59] <yeik> BlueClaw, ps -aux | grep <program name> might work better
[03:59] <Kreaz> apies: google
[03:59] <throwaway_rq> xfce doesnt' come bundled in the mainstream iso right?
[03:59] <wylde> Athanasius: 'apt-get source packagename; sudo apt-get build-dep packagename;
[03:59] <apies> kreaz. i tried but not work
[03:59] <Mango_Man> i'm getting this when running a helloworld opengl program: freeglut (./Tut 01 Main): glXCreateContextAttribsARB not found
[03:59] <Athanasius> danke wylde
[03:59] <Kreaz> apies: what cam drivers?
[03:59] <Mango_Man> help?
[04:00] <f0x> does gnome classic support transparency?
[04:00] <apies> if on windows lenovo easy camera
[04:00] <L3top> socrates_johnson: ok if I pm?
[04:00] <len_> throwaway, it's on the xubuntu iso
[04:00] <ibfrog> f0x, what do you mean by gnome classic?
[04:00] <Fyodorovna> ibfrog, you a conspiracy fan. :)
[04:00] <throwaway_rq> len_: thanks. I guess i'll have to apt-get it then.
[04:00] <ruffleS> can anyone help me out here? i'd like to know whether or not this bug's been reported already. when you "aerosnap" a window to the sides and then try to move it out of its position window goes way bellow mouse cursor. (on ubuntu 12.04 unity)
[04:00] <ibfrog> Fyodorovna, not intentionally... I've just been curious about the switch
[04:01] <ibfrog> =]
[04:01] <f0x> ibfrog, gnome-fallback-session in 12.04
[04:01] <f0x> because in 11.10 it doesn't
[04:01] <Kreaz> apies: have you tried on lenovo site for linux support?
[04:01] <Kreaz> (official site)
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> ibfrog: omgubuntu has a how o to make 12.04 look like Gnome2
[04:02] <ibfrog> wow ruffleS thats new in 12.04
[04:02] <ibfrog> 11.0X didn't have that issue
[04:02] <ruffleS> ibfrog it does now and it is highly annoying
[04:02] <ruffleS> ibfrog could you reproduce it?
[04:02] <ibfrog> just tried it out and the aero move to the side does the height maximize
[04:02] <socrates_johnson> L3top: yes
[04:02] <ibfrog> moving away from that retains the porportions of the height maximize
[04:03] <brolman2> \part
[04:03] <vicatcu> hi all - i seem to have killed my computer by trying to upgrade to 12.04, can anyone help?
[04:03] <wylde> *shakes head* Bug #989379
[04:03] <ibfrog> moving the window down jumps the window far below the cursor and restores the original size before you did the aero-resize to the side of the screen
[04:03] <Fyodorovna> ibfrog, I picture shuttleworth and his honchos sitting around mark says take away their boot partition cackles a muhaha and the sinister organ music starts.
[04:03] <cordoval_> anyone with an assus g73jw do they can boot on usb stick?
[04:03] <ibfrog> Fyodorovna, hahaha
[04:03] <cordoval_> it says like atheros agent, some weird names and options but it is not picking up usb
[04:04] <vicatcu> pretty please?
[04:04] <yeik> cordoval_,  almost any newer computer should be able to boot usb
[04:04]  * Kreaz is away (OFFLINE)
[04:04] <ruffleS> ibfrog exactly
[04:04] <wylde> !details | vicatcu
[04:04] <ibfrog> I'm kinda new to the #ubuntu community but any theory that involves organ music and sinister themes is ok by me
[04:04] <yeik> cordoval_, usually there is an option, like f10, f8, or esq to get a boot menu
[04:04] <ruffleS> ibfrog i've been trying to find this bug report on launchpad with no luck so far
[04:04] <ibfrog> it might not be there but I can replicate
[04:05] <Athanasius> ooooooooh checkinstall looks quite handy
[04:05] <BlueClaw> throwaway_rq: Thanks, that program looks like what I wanted.
[04:05] <ibfrog> ruffleS, think this was fixed in 11.0x but I've been running gnome-shell there and it acts different
[04:05] <wylde> Athanasius: checkinstall is VERY handy :)
[04:05] <vicatcu> when i try to start ubuntu i get the following error: mountall: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version 'GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /lib/libply.so.2) General error mounting filesystems. A maintenance shell will now be started. CONTROL-D will terminate this shell and reboot the system.
[04:05] <ruffleS> ibfrog i've tried this on gnome-shell and bug doesn't apply there..
[04:05] <ruffleS> only on unity
[04:06] <vicatcu> the installer crashed while updating from 11.10 to 12.04 and here we are
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> vicatcu: could use liveCD and chroot, then update the OS there?
[04:06] <Athanasius> Of course first I have to wait for all the deps to download at 5KB/s
[04:06] <wylde> vicatcu: I all honesty, it's probably best if you use a live CD/USB to boot and backup your data. Then do a fresh install.
[04:07] <SamEEE> apies - google
[04:07] <wylde> vicatcu: or what ActionParsnip said
[04:07] <cordoval_> error is > Checking battery state... starting git'daemon[ unknown id [ git failure unknown id[ git
[04:07] <yuri__> Alright. I was burning a dvd to iso and had to access the control panel. Now bombono has decided to stop burning mid-stream. Is this normal?
[04:07] <ruffleS> ibfrog could you please help me report that bug? as english isn't my first language i don't think i would be able to describe the scenario as i should
[04:07] <kfizz> I have a home partition and I'm trying to do manual partitioning, however idk if I should Mark my home or / as bootable. Any suggestions?
[04:08] <cordoval_> Action i am at gnu grub
[04:08] <cordoval_> i can see recover mode
[04:08] <cordoval_> is that it? i was not able to boot from usb yet
[04:08] <cordoval_> it is just the ubuntu
[04:08] <cordoval_> will try recover mode
[04:08] <ibfrog> ruffleS, I suppose I could ...  I've never lodged an ubuntu bug before and I wasn't planning on running unity for much longer
[04:08] <vicatcu> ok i just threw in my 11.10 installation cd
[04:09] <vicatcu> what is chroot though
[04:09] <cordoval_> should i go to drop toroot shell prompt?
[04:09] <ibfrog> kfizz, bootable shoudl go to the partition that contains the bootloader... which is / unless you have a /boot partition
[04:10] <koffel> hello
[04:10] <sfears> hello koffel
[04:10] <koffel> how are ya
[04:11] <BOYPT> koffel: hello
[04:11] <sfears> concious
[04:11] <kfizz> Ibfrog, I have an old / partition but I want to install a new / partition and copy the old data from / only as necessary. Should I create a new / partition, make it primary and bootable and change the old / to logical?
[04:11] <cordoval_> ActionParsnip: i am going to the dpkg
[04:11] <koffel> does ubuntu have zwave lighting drivers?
[04:12] <BOYPT> kfizz: in fact grub doesn't care about the bootable flag
[04:12] <BOYPT> kfizz: primary or not dsn't matter
 i've booted from a livecd...now what is this chroot business you speek of
[04:13] <kfizz> Byopt, As long as it's mounted at / it will recognize it as such?
[04:13] <Dougie187> I'm having trouble installing 12.04. The installer is stalling close to the end (during "installing system") and my syslogs indicate it's an issue with getting the nvidia_current_updates package.
[04:13] <sfears> vicatcu: what are you trying to do?
[04:13] <BOYPT> kfizz: yep
[04:13] <vicatcu> get my computer back to bootable
[04:13] <vicatcu> it crashed while i was upgrading from 11.10 to 12.04
[04:14] <Dougie187> To help, it seems like this bug report is my issue, but I don't understand what the resolution is. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/917604
[04:15] <vicatcu> sfears: can you help me?
[04:15] <sfears> maybe
[04:15] <cordoval_> it is running the dpkg
[04:15] <sfears> do you know how to mount partitions?
[04:15] <cordoval_> hmm
[04:16] <sfears> do you know how to mount partitions vicatcu?
[04:16] <Trenchcoat_Guy> hello world
[04:16] <yuri__> Alright. Never mind. It regained control of the data stream. Back to rendering. Bye. :)
[04:16] <Roey> sbrk() sbrk() sbrk()!!
[04:16] <ibfrog>  btw:  anyone know how to debug alsa / pulseaudio issues?  I can't seem to get any audio out of my mother board
[04:17] <datruth> I have a partition I want to share between two OS's does the file system need to be fat32 or ntfs?
[04:17] <vicatcu> sfears: i'm pretty good with unix in general, it's just the mount command right?
[04:17] <sfears> ibfrog, you probably have the wrong device selected in the sound control panel
[04:17] <ibfrog> sfears, I've tried all three
[04:17] <cordoval_> looks like i just needed dpkg
[04:17] <cordoval_> man this is so cool, i hope it fixes it
[04:17] <sfears> yeah vicatcu, mount /dev/sd? (broken system) /mnt
[04:17] <ibfrog> test sounds don't work with any of them selected
[04:17] <cordoval_> ubuntu ftw
[04:18] <ibfrog> datruth, fat32 is the safest bet
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> cordoval_: sweet
[04:18] <linuxuz3r> is 12.04 out yet
[04:18] <cordoval_> ActionParsnip: i really hope this works man, ruffleS yeah man
[04:18] <ibfrog> I think you can write to ntfs but the last time I tried it, it wasn't exactly perfect
[04:18] <datruth> linuxuz3r: yes
[04:18] <linuxuz3r> how is it
[04:18] <linuxuz3r> good spify fast
[04:18] <linuxuz3r> ?
[04:18] <vicatcu> sfears: mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[04:18] <vicatcu> ?
[04:18] <datruth> ibfrog: great thanks I need to use gparted to format that parition on a live cd?
[04:19] <ibfrog> datruth, what are you trying to do again?
[04:20] <sfears> vicatcu: mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc
[04:20] <sfears> and the same for sysfs and boot
[04:21] <vicatcu> sfears: i'm getting "only root can do that"
[04:21] <sfears> if boot is on a different partition you'll have to mount that as well and adjust the syntax
[04:21] <vicatcu> and i'm booted from a live cd
[04:21] <sfears> you need to be root for all this vicatcu
[04:21] <sfears> just sudo su
[04:21] <sfears> should make you root
[04:22] <sfears> there is no password
[04:22] <vicatcu> svears: ok mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc gives me
[04:22] <vicatcu> mount point /mnt/proc does not exist
[04:22] <datruth> ibfrog: share a partition with two os's
[04:22] <marcuspbaird> hey how do i get geekshed in xchat gnome
[04:22] <sfears> vicatcu: try mount -o bind /proc /mnt/proc
[04:22] <ruffleS> ibfrog: ok here's the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/989389
[04:22] <ibfrog> datruth, gparted will get you in the right direction but it kinda depends on how your drive is currently laid out
[04:23] <vicatcu> no dice, same error /mnt/proc does not exist
[04:23] <sfears> then you have the wrong partition mounted to /mnt?
[04:23] <ibfrog> ruffleS, responding to it now
[04:23] <sfears> what does ls /mnt say?
[04:24] <ruffleS> ibfrog thank you
[04:24] <vicatcu> sfears: there's nothing there..
[04:24] <sfears> i'd say you have the wrong partition mounted
[04:24] <sfears> umount /mnt
[04:25] <vicatcu> maybe what i'm doing is not a livecd
[04:25] <sfears> fdisk -l to find your / partition
[04:25] <vicatcu> i chose "try ubuntu" from the installer
[04:25] <L3top> datruth: did anyone ever answer you?
[04:25] <sfears> yeah, open a terminal vicatcu
[04:25] <datruth> L3top: on the partition question yes. ibfrog did
[04:25] <vicatcu> as in restart, or just open a terminal
[04:25] <L3top> k
[04:25] <datruth> ibfrog: what do you mean laid out?
[04:25] <sfears> just open a terminal so you can type some commands
[04:26] <vicatcu> because i've already got a terminal open and have sudo su'ed in it
[04:26] <vicatcu> yea i'm there
[04:26] <sfears> okay
[04:26] <sfears> fdisk -l vicatcu
[04:26] <ibfrog> datruth, gparted will let you repartition your drive but you may have to use other tools to resize existing paritions unless you are starting from a clean drive
[04:26] <Thrasher194> oh yay 12.04 saved the day
[04:26] <sfears> one of those is your / partition, do you know which one
[04:27] <vicatcu> sfears: well theres sda1 through sda7
[04:28] <vicatcu> sfears one has System = Linux
[04:28] <datruth> ibfrog: hrmm the drive in question has a partiton on it that I formated to ext4 thinking it would be sharable across win7 and kubuntu so in theory I should be able to reformat that partion as ntfs or fat32 and the partition should be available via win7 and kubuntu yes?
[04:28] <vicatcu> sfears; seems like a good bet
[04:28] <sfears> only one vicatcu?
[04:28] <sfears> yeah, which one?
[04:28] <vicatcu> sfears: sda6, and sda7 is Linux swap / Solaris
[04:28] <sfears> okay, umount /mnt
[04:28] <sfears> and mount /dev/sda6 /mnt
[04:29] <vicatcu> sfears done
[04:29] <ibfrog> datruth, yup as long as you don't care about any data already on that partition you should be able to reset the partition type and rebuild the filesystem (mkefs.fat32 I think is the command)
[04:29] <sfears> ls /mnt should have your / folders
[04:29] <datruth> gotcha
[04:29] <vicatcu> sfears right on, yes it does
[04:30] <goddard> how go the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[04:30]  * datruth is going to re-install kubuntu on the new image i just downloaded
[04:30] <sfears> okay mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc
[04:30] <vicatcu> sfears: done
[04:30] <sfears> mount -t sysfs sys /mnt/sys
[04:31] <vicatcu> sfears: done
[04:31] <ruffleS> ibfrog did you see it?
[04:31] <sfears> mount -t boot boot /mnt/boot
[04:31] <sfears> does that mount correctally?
[04:32] <L3top> mount -t devpts /dev/pts
[04:32] <vicatcu> sears: unknown filesystem type 'boot'
[04:32] <sfears> mount -o bind /boot /mnt/boot
[04:33] <vicatcu> sfears: ok done
[04:33] <sfears> sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev
[04:34] <uBUxUBu> is 64bit ubuntu desktop faster than 32 bit...even if they both have the same amount of ram?
[04:34] <vicatcu> sfears: ok done
[04:34] <ibfrog> ruffleS, posted.  For what its worth your english is pretty good.  your description was accurate and to the point
[04:34] <sfears> cp -L /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf
[04:34] <L3top> some things will have a marginal increase in speed uBUxUBu
[04:34] <sfears> make sure your connected to the internet and then cp -L /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf
[04:35] <L3top> unlikely to make a real impact on your life uBUxUBu
[04:35] <vicatcu> sfears: ok done
[04:35] <ruffleS> ibfrog thanks! i just hope this will get fixed in time for 12.10. thank you for taking your time to help me out. cheers!
[04:35] <linuxuz3r> uBUxUBu, i think it depends on the speed of your processor
[04:35] <uBUxUBu> hmmm, for some reasons, some tests claim its a lot faster, others say what you said L3top
[04:35] <sfears> you were connected to the net first vicatcu?
[04:35] <vicatcu> yea
[04:36] <uBUxUBu> my processor on the machine in question is a 3.4 HT P4
[04:36] <uBUxUBu> 4 g ram
[04:36] <linuxuz3r> uBUxUBu, hi
[04:36] <linuxuz3r> i think that cant run 64bit
[04:36] <vicatcu> sfears: yea i have network and can browse the web
[04:36] <sfears> okay, chroot /mnt /bin/bash
[04:37] <uBUxUBu> i noticed in the bios it says 64 bit though
[04:37] <vicatcu> sfears: ok done
[04:37] <biobunsai> Oh let me guess..no screen saver again!!!!
[04:37] <sfears> okay, your running on your crashed machine
[04:37] <sfears> issue commands like apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[04:37] <rinzler> anybody have any experience with tilp2, or know where to find someone who does?
[04:37] <sfears> should start downloading and updating everything vicatcu
[04:38] <uBUxUBu> linux4u, unless dell put a 64 bit mobo with a cpu that cant do 64 bit?
[04:38] <ibfrog> rinzler, what is tilp2?
[04:38] <vicatcu> sfears: ok apt-get update running currently
[04:38] <ibfrog> rinzler, TI com program?
[04:38] <rinzler> ibfrog: yep
[04:38] <sfears> or maybe dist-upgrade or might have to dpkg something to recover where it lost it last time
[04:38] <ibfrog> neat tool but I haven't run it :/
[04:38] <borillion> anyone have any experience setting up web hosts that are secure?
[04:39] <vicatcu> libc6 ?
[04:39] <Fyodorovna> sfears, maybe  sudo apt-get -f install   to unlock their original upgrade if locked
[04:39] <goddard> how go the upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[04:39] <vicatcu> sfears: any ideas how to figure out what is b0rk3d?
[04:39] <goddard> what is the best way to upgrade?
[04:39] <sfears> yeah, your in there as long as you don't reboot or exit from your terminal session
[04:40] <sfears> vicatcu: just try apt-get upgrade and see if it errors
[04:40] <vicatcu> sfears: ok will do
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> goddard: there is no best, just options
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | goddard
[04:40] <sfears> it should put you in a state to reboot into your system and dist upgrade from the gui when you get there
[04:41] <vexaxv> hey guys i need some programming help
[04:41] <Thrasher194> i got the full 12.04 64bit dvd. and did a clean install.
[04:41] <jok1> trouble using winusb http://pastebin.com/uGMRqLyF
[04:42] <schultza_> what java client should i get?
[04:42] <ian_> FUUUUUU
[04:42] <anathema_> hi guys, in my netbook i have some linux and one windows distro, im trying to setup ubuntu but in the installer it shows only /dev/sda and not the partitions. Is the partition table broken? Grub works correctly with the distros :(
[04:42] <ian_> everyone liste
[04:42] <ian_> listen
[04:42] <ian_> i just installed the 12.04
[04:42] <ian_> but it wont load and shows a black screen
[04:42] <vicatcu> sfears: ok so apt-get upgrade instructed me that dpkg was interrupted and i must run sudo dpkg --configure -a, so i did
[04:43] <ian_> im here cuz i used a old version in the start up
[04:43] <schultza> !java
[04:43] <borillion> ian_ boot in vga mode
[04:43] <ian_> how?
[04:43] <vicatcu> sfears: subsequent to that, running apt-get upgrade fails with unmet dependencies
[04:43] <sfears> yeah, sounds like video drivers ian_
[04:43] <ian_> k so you can help me with it?
[04:43] <vicatcu> sfears: rerunning apt-get upgrade with -f optin
[04:44] <biobunsai> ok how do I get my screen savers back?
[04:44] <sfears> you may have to wait until kubuntu server traffic dies down, maybe some of the packages are unavailable becauase the servers are overloaded right now
[04:44] <ian_> Please? when i boot the 12.04, everying is fine until the sign up...  after i sign its blackout
[04:44] <aarcane> does anyone else actually answer FloodBot1 in #ubuntu-unregged?
[04:45] <sfears> ian_ do you have an external or alternate monitor to use
[04:45] <sfears> it may be your monitor refresh rate ian_.
[04:45] <cemc> hi. I have 4GB of RAM in my laptop. is it worth installing 64bit 12.04 ?
[04:45] <ian_> nope my pc is on a HP  montior
[04:45] <sfears> lcd ian_?
[04:45] <mcdonc> cemc: that's plenty
[04:45] <ian_> yeah i think
[04:45] <ian_> but im not sure
[04:46] <mcdonc> and 64 bit still runs flash and whatnot
[04:46] <ian_> everything was fine like 3-4 ans of use before the 12.04
[04:46] <ian_> *years
[04:46] <sfears> i have that problem with one of my lcd monitors, i have to hook up a crt monitor to change the refresh rate and then hook the lcd back up
[04:46] <cemc> mcdonc: I see. thanks
[04:46] <ian_> with the 12.04?
[04:47] <L3top> ian_: what are the chances this is an nvidia gpu
[04:47] <sfears> you can boot into a live cd session and manually change the refresh rate in the xorg config, but i'm not exactally sure where the setting is ian_
[04:47] <ian_> yes lol its a nvidia car i think with amd motherboard
[04:47] <ian_> i don't have a live cd :(
[04:47] <sfears> maybe try the nomodeset option at grub boot ian_
[04:48] <sfears> at the grub menu type c for command prompt to appear. then type nomodeset and hit enter
[04:48] <ian_> "nomodset" only?
[04:48] <ian_> okay
[04:48] <sfears> yeah, that will help if it's a driver issue, not if it's refresh rate though
[04:48] <ian_> ok sounds good
[04:48] <ian_> i'll be back
[04:48] <aarcane> cemc, it's always worth installing 64 bit if your CPU supports it.
[04:49] <sfears> ian_:
[04:49] <sfears> nomodeset
[04:49] <ian_> yes
[04:49] <ian_> brb
[04:49] <chris215> msg nickserv identify themarlboroman
[04:49] <sfears> chris, you forgot to / the msg
[04:49] <chris215> i know
[04:49] <chris215> lol changing pword now
[04:50] <sfears> ha
[04:50] <JayWalker__> so I guess I'm not the only one having problems with 12.04. After installing nvidia drivers, unity/compiz crashes on login. And my sound doesnt work, when it did with 10.04
[04:50] <chris215> plz nobody be mean
[04:50] <chris215> lol
[04:50] <sfears> vicatcu: how's it going?
[04:50] <vicatcu> sfears: upgrade still running
[04:50] <chris215> it was a nice password while it lasted...  not very crafty but fun to type
[04:50] <halfie> hi, i have installed ubuntu 12.04 but I can't hear any sound on headphones connected to SB XFI sound card. Should I file a bug?
[04:50] <chris215> :(
[04:51] <sfears> sounds like it will work fine, after that finishes you should just be able to reboot vicatcu
[04:51] <vicatcu> sfears: thanks you have been incredibly generous and helpful
[04:52] <ItsMeLenny> i'm sorry but the new unity is extremely buggy, very frustrating, almost unusable, and the gnome classic has its own share
[04:52] <jok1> trouble using winusb http://pastebin.com/uGMRqLyF
[04:52] <sfears> donate my share to your library
[04:53] <sfears> jok1: what are you trying to do?
[04:53] <jok1> sfears, trying to create a bootable win 7 usb
[04:53] <chris215> i was hoping i could free up some space on this computer, only 40 gb hd, by compressing my movie files when im not using them, but i am noticing that in tar.gz form its the same size as the file itself...  is there a compression format that will make the average 700mb movie file fit into a smaller file?
[04:54] <chris215> or is that not really what compression does
[04:54] <A|i3N> So I just install 12.04 - Could someone tell me what package to install to get the Gnome classic interface? I can't seem to find it.
[04:54] <ItsMeLenny> chris215, movie files are already compressed
[04:54] <woo> chris, try 7zip
[04:54] <sfears> chris215: tar -c 9
[04:54] <sfears> maybe increase the compression chris215
[04:54] <roloncito> raven from mexico?
[04:54] <ItsMeLenny> A|i3N, the gnome classic interface is buggy you're probably better of getting http://mate-desktop.org
[04:55] <halfie> hi, i have installed ubuntu 12.04 but I can't hear any sound on headphones connected to SB XFI sound card. Any tips to get sound working?
[04:55] <ItsMeLenny> nice 300mb package
[04:55] <chris215> i know how to put them into a compresed file in the terminal and with nautilus already
[04:55] <zykotick9> !info gnome-session-fallback | A|i3N
[04:55] <sfears> halfie: check each entry in the sound control panel and make sure the correct sound card is at the top of the list
[04:55] <chris215> sfears -c 9 will increase the compreession?
[04:55] <sfears> i think so chris215
[04:56] <sfears> maybe test it first, that may be a gzip flag
[04:56] <redact3d> is the magic lamp minimize animation for compiz broken for anyone else on 12.04?
[04:57] <A|i3N> zykotick9 - That will allow to select gnome classic when I log on?
[04:57] <wylde> chris215: you will gain very little even with maximum compression settings. As someone already said, movies/music/lots of image files are already compressed.
[04:57] <ItsMeLenny> redact3d, everything is broken for me in 12.04, along with my heart
[04:57] <chris215> im reading tar --help now.....  thanks for the tim, i didnt now too much about compression lke that i could increase it...
[04:57] <chris215> oooh i see
[04:57] <sfears> or that
[04:57] <chris215> thanks wylde
[04:57] <zykotick9> A|i3N: it has a gnome icon in lightdm or something, it seems pretty amazing - very gnome2 like.
[04:58] <osmosis> any major bugs found in 12.04 yet?
[04:58] <redact3d> ItsMeLenny, my upgrade wen't very well actually first time it's ever worked. normally i need to hose and start fresh. just that one animation in compiz not working correctly from what i can see
[04:58] <ItsMeLenny> i did a full reinstall
[04:58] <A|i3N> zykotick9 - I don't mind the unity thing, I just want my application menus at the top - is there a way to just get those back? Applications and system menus
[04:58] <sfears> jok1: fdisk -l
[04:58] <ian_> lol sfears
[04:58] <wylde> chris215: np, I store my movies in a squashfs filesystem using xz compression and over 40 GB I gain less than 1GB of space.
[04:58] <zykotick9> A|i3N: i have no idea about unity.  good luck.
[04:58] <ItsMeLenny> and the unity interfaece is nothing but buggy buggy buggy, compared to 11.10
[04:58] <ian_> are you sure thats nomodset?
[04:58] <sfears> what ian_?
[04:59] <sfears> no, nomodeset
[04:59] <ian_> and nomodeset
[04:59] <sfears> your forgetting the e
[04:59] <sfears> that's what i said that last time
[04:59] <sfears> no mode set
[04:59] <ian_> these 2 dosent works
[04:59] <redact3d> ItsMeLenny, yeah i use xfce so i wouldn't know lol
[04:59] <khmerog> hi
[04:59] <ian_> unknown command
[04:59] <jcase> would anyone know how to remove the unity launcher off a second monitor?
[04:59] <sfears> humm.. pause
[04:59] <ljsoftnet> how do i lower my cpu fan speed with thinkfan?
[04:59] <A|i3N> ItsMeLenny - Do you have any idea? I just want my menu bar back. I don't mind using the default desktop, I just want the usual listing of installed applications and system settings, etc
[04:59] <ian_> okay
[04:59] <benpicco> I created a ppa and uploaded the files successfully with dput, but they are not showing up on my ppa website - what am I missing?
[04:59] <chris215> ko wylde ...i was hoping to dl a documentary torrent to watch tonite but it looks like id have to delete one of my favs to do it...  oh well getting a new screen in the mail tomorrow hopefully, then ill have my good laptop back :)
[05:00] <chris215> at least theres xbmc for tonite
[05:00] <chris215> thanks guys
[05:00] <chris215> byw
[05:00] <wylde> chris215:  :)
[05:00] <chris215> bye
[05:00] <sfears> ian_: where are you typing that in?
[05:00] <ian_> in the command kernel
[05:00] <ItsMeLenny> A|i3N,  i dunno what you're talking about
[05:00] <ian_> as you requested
[05:00] <sfears> from grub ian_?
[05:01] <Derpadong> Question, is there a netinstall iso for current ubuntu or no?
[05:01] <woo> going from 10.04 desktop to 12.04 server.  any suggestions or comments?
[05:02] <A|i3N> OK then, anyone - you know how before Unity you had your regular application menus and system menus at the top of the screen on the left - Is there a way to either a: Get those back using Unity on 12.04 or b: install the gnome classic desktop
[05:02] <ian___> sdears yes?
[05:02] <benpicco> A|i3N: install gnome-panel
[05:02] <ian___> it sucks man
[05:02] <sfears> ian___: nomodeset is in there somewhere
[05:03] <ian___> then why its unkown command?
[05:03] <redact3d> A|i3N, use xfce its similar to gnome2 (xubuntu)
[05:03] <A|i3N> benpicco: That'll bring the menu back?  I installed 12.04 to a second disk.
[05:03] <benpicco> A|i3N: it's the gnome 2 panel ported to gnome 3
[05:04] <benpicco> you will get a 'Gnome Classic' session that you can select on login
[05:04] <A|i3N> OK then lol thank you benpicco that's what I was wanting
[05:04] <ian___> Whyyy?
[05:06] <A|i3N> From what I've been reading I'm not the only one that hates the whole unity interface LOL
[05:06] <ian___> wellll?
[05:06] <ljsoftnet> how do i lower my cpu fan speed with thinkfan?
[05:07] <holmescn> help list
[05:07] <ian___> Anybody can help me?
[05:07] <benpicco> what's your problem?
[05:07] <woo> lj, thats not in ur bios?
[05:07] <ian___> i have a problem with the 12.04
[05:08] <sfears> ian___: did e work?
[05:08] <ian___> when i sign up with the 12.04 it shows only a blak screen but it only shows the mouse pointor
[05:08] <ian___> sfears : no
[05:08] <sfears> from the grub boot menu type e to edit the current boot string
[05:08] <sfears> instead of c for command prompt
[05:09] <sfears> and add nomodeset to the end of the string
[05:09] <ian___> brb
[05:09] <woo> ian, gnome3 might be failing
[05:10] <woo> should auto roll baxk
[05:10] <tridentfish> Hi
[05:10] <sfears> Hi tridentfish
[05:10] <woo> back x*
[05:11] <uBUxUBu> ubuntu is offerning to install dsome friehaufer 3rd party software?? is this ok?
[05:11] <sfears> what is friehaufer 3rd party software?
[05:12] <tridentfish> Is there a way to become a better power user? I know it is off topic and all. I up set you sorry.
[05:12] <sfears> sure tridentfish, study more
[05:12] <woo> then
[05:13] <woo> break stuff
[05:13] <woo> and fix
[05:13] <sfears> yup, break all the things
[05:13] <sfears> and fix most of them
[05:13] <woo> ;)
[05:13] <tridentfish> Sfears is there any good books you would say I should use. Also do I need to learn python to be better off?
[05:14] <sfears> first, english book
[05:14] <sfears> are there any good book I would recomend, not sure... I usually use Google
[05:14] <sfears> ha
[05:14] <sfears> books*
[05:15] <tridentfish> I am sorry it is just that I have been up all night for the past week. Collage bites.
[05:15] <Gotestra> People help.
[05:15] <Grecoo> yes
[05:15] <woo> ok
[05:15] <Grecoo> tell me
[05:15] <sfears> you have things that bite in your collage?
[05:15] <Gotestra> I need some help with Updating Ubuntu to 12.0
[05:15] <Gotestra> Or whatever version it is.
[05:15] <Grecoo> whats wrong?
[05:16] <Gotestra> See, I've got this really slow Internet.
[05:16] <Gotestra> And uh
[05:16] <Gotestra> My download failed.
[05:16] <Gotestra> Now I try again, it gives me a partial upgrade message.
[05:16] <Dan-The-Man> Gotestra, buy the cd
[05:16] <Gotestra> :|
[05:16] <Gotestra> Just lemme finish
[05:16] <taxman> higher internet speed is not worth
[05:16] <woo> server is under pressure at the moment
[05:16] <Grecoo> Gotestra, have you tried downloading from a mirror?
[05:16] <taxman> they always steal your bandwidth
[05:16] <woo> give it a few days
[05:17] <Gotestra> Um just a second
[05:17] <Gotestra> Its not the slow Internet.
[05:17] <Gotestra> My download failed, because my Internet failed.
[05:17] <Gotestra> Stupid ISP.
[05:17] <goddard> ActionParsnip: thats an interesting way of looking at things
[05:17] <sfears> bandwidth like the drive through like the cell phone
[05:17] <Gotestra> Well when I try to resume it by clicking partial upgrade
[05:17] <Gotestra> It gives me an error message
[05:18] <sfears> what error message Gotestra?
[05:18] <Gotestra> Saying another package manager like apt-get or something is running.
[05:18] <Grecoo> well, you shuld close that process
[05:18] <sfears> ohhh, and I assume if you reboot from where you are it won't boot?
[05:18] <Grecoo> or kill it
[05:18] <woo> Got, delete the temp?
[05:18] <woo> or top kill
[05:18] <Gotestra> I'm a n00b and didn't understand any of it?
[05:19] <Gotestra> Kill the process?
[05:19] <Grecoo> ok, ok, no problem
[05:19] <tridentfish> I got ubuntu beta final and I am wondering is it in the public release state yeat.
[05:19] <Grecoo> sudo killall nameoftheprocess
[05:19] <sfears> do you have an upgrade windows open somewhere Gotestra?
[05:19] <Gotestra> Yeah open right now
[05:19] <sfears> your last upgrade didn't close oout properly
[05:19] <Gotestra> Yeah
[05:19] <sfears> close out all of them and click on partial upgrade again
[05:19] <Gotestra> Ohk
[05:19] <Gotestra> Lemme try
[05:20] <sfears> you can only initiate one upgrade at a time
[05:20] <Gotestra> k killed the bitches
[05:20] <sfears> should work for you now
[05:21] <Gotestra> OWUT
[05:21] <tridentfish> Last question how is Ubuntu on the terms of being a way to become good with linux in general. I have a freind who told me to ditch Ubuntu for open suse. What bases would you about it?
[05:21] <Gotestra> yay it worked
[05:22] <Gotestra> Ubuntu is not that annoying when you know how to use it lol
[05:22] <Gotestra> Thanks a lot people :)
[05:22] <sfears> Gotestra: you tried to start an upgrade on top of an already running upgrade, if it allowed you to do that it would break things
[05:22] <woo> Got, ya it is :)
[05:23] <Gotestra> Oh
[05:23] <holmescn> could somebody help me? One of my partitions could not automount, it appears in /dev/disk/by-label, but not mount /media
[05:23] <Gotestra> Should have shown the open window instead of a background process :|
[05:23] <Gotestra> Ubuntu is meant to be n00b friendly :|
[05:23] <Gotestra> Oh hol reminded me of another problem.
[05:23] <uBUxUBu> im installing it now!
[05:24] <Grecoo> good luck
[05:24] <uBUxUBu> guess ill try 64 bit...
[05:24] <Gotestra> Guys
[05:24] <Gotestra> Yeah use 64 bit.
[05:24] <ian_> hey
[05:24] <Gotestra> Don't risk 32 bit.
[05:24] <Gotestra> Btw people
[05:24] <Gotestra> I got like another problem.
[05:24] <holmescn> could somebody help me? One of my partitions could not automount, it appears in /dev/disk/by-label, but not mount /media. I have googled but get nothing. could somebody give a hint?
[05:24] <ian_> sfears u here?
[05:25] <Gotestra> !nickalert sfears
[05:25] <sfears> yeah
[05:25] <ian_> it doesnt do any shit man
[05:25] <Gotestra> sfears
[05:25] <Gotestra> Listen man
[05:25] <schultza> how do i install gnome keyring?
[05:25] <Gotestra> I got this Z drive on my internet HDD.
[05:25] <sfears> i think you have a refresh rate problem ian_.
[05:25] <Gotestra> I use it for movies, music and everything.
[05:25] <schultza> pm me...be right back
[05:25] <ian_> and then how to slove it?
[05:25] <Gotestra> Its a 111 GB partition.
[05:26] <sfears> you need another monitor ian_
[05:26] <stuntman_dan> hey just a quick question, if I was using the beta of 12.04, is there anything special I have to do aside from installing updates to get to the real thing?  Where do i even start to figure out why?
[05:32] <waxstone> !ops
[05:32] <ian_> lol and you can help me please sir?
[05:32] <Gotestra> Permission denied.
[05:32] <Gotestra> You must have r/w access to the filesystem or be root.
[05:32] <zenmaster> I just got the nicest server I have ever had hard ware wise for personal use. :)
[05:33] <wylde> !fsck | Gotestra
[05:33] <elky> ian_, don't flood us with pastes, and don't swear at us
[05:33] <holmescn> Gotestra: add 'sudo' in front of that command
[05:33] <zenmaster> Dell Power Edge 2800. Sounds like a 747, but I'm not near it so I don't care.
[05:33] <ian_> check http://paste.ubuntu.com/949002/
[05:33] <Gotestra> k
[05:33] <_k> ive tried upgrading and clean install... 12.04 crashes when i plugin 2nd monitor. any ideas?
[05:33] <ian_> hey relax dude i didnt swaer at you guys
[05:33] <_k> ATI tried open src and fglrx ... no luck. 11.10 works fine
[05:33] <sfears> ian_: sudo restart kdm
[05:33] <holmescn> could somebody help me? One of my partitions could not automount, it appears in /dev/disk/by-label, but not mount /media. I have googled but get nothing. could somebody give a hint?
[05:34] <ian_> just at myself and this BS, not at you guys okay? you guys are doing excellent jobs
[05:34] <Gotestra> Error 2 while mounting fsck.ntfs for /dev/sda7
[05:34] <wylde> ian_: just keep the language PG. If an op sees that you'll be kicked and banned. Just sayin'
[05:35] <sfears> holmescn: add entry to /etc/fstab
[05:35] <ian_> and i didn't know that i cant paste so is everything fine, my kind sir?
[05:35] <wylde> !pastebin | ian_
[05:35] <sfears> _k do you have proprietary drivers installed if necessary? and try disabeling desktop effects & compiz
[05:35] <Gotestra> sfears, holmescn, "Error 2 while mounting fsck.ntfs for dev/sda7"
[05:35] <ian_> yes thanks you kind sir
[05:36] <ian_> and sfears: it doesn't works
[05:36] <holmescn> sfears: it is a USB harddisk, i don't want to add it in fstab.
[05:36] <_k> yes.... i tried additional drivers and that was worse. will try with desktop effects & compiz - but do you think this is a bug?
[05:36] <holmescn> Gotestra: is there more infos?
[05:36] <sfears> holmescn: does it show in fdisk pl
[05:36] <sfears> fdisk -l
[05:37] <holmescn> yes
[05:37] <Gotestra> sfears: Not really, no.
[05:37] <sfears> Gotestra: you said it's an internet drive?
[05:37] <Gotestra> No internal drive.
[05:37] <Gotestra> As in, its a partition of my laptop's HDD.
[05:37] <sfears> doesn't sound like a bug _k
[05:37] <wylde> !mount
[05:38] <ian_> well?
[05:38] <zenmaster> Ehehe, community mount.
[05:38] <sfears> and your sure your mounting the correct partition Gotestra? why did you call it Z?
[05:38] <roger_black> how can we remove wine related icons, all of them
[05:38] <thisisjet> hello, I just updated to 12.04 and have noticed that when I adjust the brightness of my laptop lcd it now only has 3 levels (dim medium and bright), whereas in 11.10 I had 4 levels to choose from, and in windows theres about 10 levels between the brightest and dimmest.
[05:38] <thisisjet> anyone know where I can tweak this?
[05:39] <Gotestra> The drive letter is Z.
[05:39] <sfears> sounds like a windows mapping calling it Z.
[05:39] <Gotestra> No wait...
[05:39] <wylde> Gotestra: linux doesn't use drive letters....
[05:39] <Gotestra> I was gonna say that.
[05:39] <Gotestra> I'm like wait wut
[05:39] <Gotestra> Its My Stuff then.
[05:39] <sfears> Gotestra: fdisk -l
[05:39] <sfears> you need to figure out which partition it is
[05:39] <wylde> Gotestra: 'sudo fdisk -l' < the command needs root privs
[05:40] <Thedemon007> Hi how to i install netcfg in ubuntu??
[05:40] <_k> if not a bug, then why does 11.10 work? last question - should i just wait a few months before re-attempting this?
[05:40] <ronsonol> Is there any need to upgrade from 12.04 Beta to 12.04 final, or does just happen automagically with update manager?
[05:40] <sfears> sounds like a driver issue _k
[05:40] <_k> k
[05:40] <_k> thanks
[05:40] <Gotestra> As, I need to find if its sda1, or 2 or 3 or something?
[05:40] <holmescn> ronsonol: just update is ok.
[05:41] <ronsonol> holmescn: thanks.
[05:41] <wylde> Gotestra: yes
[05:41] <Gotestra> I think its sda7.
[05:41] <ian_> anybody can help me?
[05:41] <sfears> yeah Gotestra, if you use it in windows it will say ntfs or fat in one of the lines
[05:41] <Gotestra> The error said so.
[05:41] <Gotestra> NTFS, yes.
[05:41] <sfears> try "sudo mount /dev/sd?? /mnt"
[05:42] <sfears> replace ?? with the proper info
[05:42] <wylde> Gotestra: you may need some packages to mount it, and definatley to write to it.
[05:42] <wylde> !ntfs | Gotestra
[05:42] <jschall> thisisjet: oh wow, i have a similar problem. i think i have 4 levels to choose from, and my display driver has like 8 available levels i think?
[05:42] <Thedemon007> netcfg is in the repositories?
[05:42] <ian_> anybody?
[05:42] <Gotestra> But wait, there's this one partition.
[05:42] <wylde> !info netcfg
[05:42] <Gotestra> Installation Drive
[05:42] <sfears> ian_: you'll need another monitor
[05:42] <holmescn> I think ntfs is supported by default
[05:42] <Gotestra> Its NTFS, but I can access it.
[05:42] <ian_> and the command?
[05:43] <sfears> what command ian_?
[05:43] <ian_> is theres any command that could reslove the problem?
[05:43] <_k> im going to try rolling back the driver :3
[05:43] <Gotestra> Um sfears
[05:43] <sfears> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ian_
[05:43] <Thedemon007> wylde: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise/netcfg
[05:43] <sfears> yeah Gotestra?
[05:43] <Gotestra> I tried the sudo mount command.
[05:44] <Gotestra> It gave the exact same error I got when using Explorer.
[05:44] <Gotestra> Or whatever you call it in WIndows.
[05:44] <wylde> Thedemon007: lol tell the bot that! :)
[05:44] <sfears> what error again?
[05:44] <holmescn> maybe you disk is physically wrong.
[05:44] <scwizard> does xubuntu come with an askpass program?
[05:44] <ian_> !pastebin
[05:44] <uBUxUBu> wow the side bar icon launcher is fixed-doesnt move in 12.04
[05:44] <scwizard> (a grapical one)
[05:44] <Gotestra> The device dev/sda7 doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[05:44] <sfears> yeah, sounds like a hardware issue
[05:45] <sfears> crashed hard drive
[05:45] <ian_> sfears : http://paste.ubuntu.com/949023/
[05:45] <Gotestra> But I can access it and use it properly in Windows 7.
[05:45] <Gotestra> :|
[05:45] <Gotestra> I'm dual booting so..
[05:45] <Thedemon007> no can install no show in synaptics :S
[05:45] <evildaemon> How do you resize the tty?
[05:45] <holmescn> Gotestra: use the disktool in windows 7
[05:45] <wylde> Thedemon007: because wht you found was a source package.
[05:45] <Gotestra> Then do what?
[05:45] <holmescn> check and repair the partition.
[05:46] <Gotestra> But I checked it today morning..
[05:46] <Gotestra> It says its healthy.
[05:46] <kaushal> Hi
[05:46] <holmescn> damn.
[05:46] <evildaemon> Because I have an odd monitor size so y TTY won't fully display the screen.
[05:46] <evildaemon> *my
[05:46] <kaushal> what are the new prominent features available in 12.04
[05:46] <sfears> maybe again is the wrong partition. Gotestra pastebin your fdisk -l output
[05:46] <ian_> sfears: http://paste.ubuntu.com/949023/
[05:46] <thisisjet> jschall, hmmm... do you have any idea how to fix it?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: HUD is one
[05:46] <ian_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/949023/
[05:46] <holmescn> kaushal: the new and more stable unity.
[05:47] <kaushal> holmescn: is it gnome3 ?
[05:47] <kaushal> and unity3
[05:47] <holmescn> no
[05:47] <wylde> !patience | ian_
[05:47] <sfears> you need root privledges to modify files in / ian_
[05:47] <ian_> um
[05:48] <ian_> im the admin lol
[05:48] <kaushal> holmescn: ?
[05:48] <Gotestra> Would using Gparted help?
[05:48] <wylde> !ntfs | Gotestra
[05:48] <holmescn> kaushal: no, it is not gnome 3, it is unity 5
[05:48] <ian_> bye
[05:48] <sfears> and you need to modify the /etc/X11/xorg.conf on the display that you can't see, so you need to livecd in, mount the partition with the borked xorg, edit the correct modeline with the proper refresh rate.
[05:49] <kaushal> ok
[05:49] <kaushal> holmescn: what is unity5 and gnome 3 ?
[05:49] <kaushal> are there related to each other ?
[05:49] <sfears> kaushal: it's the gui
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: unity is a shell for Gnome3
[05:49] <uBUxUBu> if the icon launcher supposed to be fixed in 12.04?
[05:50] <uBUxUBu> like immovable
[05:50] <holmescn> kaushal: it seams that unity 5 is based on gnome3 (or you can say based on gtk3)
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: Oneiric also uses Gnome3 and Unity, just that Precise uses a newer version
[05:50] <kaushal> so gnome3 is not available on 12.04
[05:50] <kaushal> ?
[05:50] <Gotestra> Damn.
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: yes it's the default desktop if you install Ubuntu
[05:50] <holmescn> kaushal: no, you can use gnome 3 as you wish.
[05:50] <fidel_> ahoi
[05:50] <Gotestra> I got to wait for Update Manager to exit.
[05:50] <Gotestra> I'm installing NTFS Config tool.
[05:51] <Gotestra> k I'll go study now
[05:51] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: you said unity is the shell not sure i understand that
[05:51] <Gotestra> Bai people
[05:51] <sfears> Gotestra: pastebin your fdisk -l output
[05:51] <holmescn> kaushal: you need to install gnome 3 by yourself.
[05:51] <Gotestra> Its so hard to copy paste with my trackpad...
[05:51] <kaushal> holmescn: so if i i install 12.04 it doesnot install gnome 3 by default ?
[05:52] <holmescn> kaushal: yes
[05:52] <Gotestra> How do I copy from kernel?
[05:52] <Gotestra> lol;
[05:52] <kaushal> whats the default then ?
[05:52] <fidel_> kaushal: installing gnome3 afterwards is a 1-liner - so not a real problem
[05:52] <holmescn> kaushal: unity
[05:52] <sfears> you said you got the same error in explorer right?
[05:53] <kaushal> holmescn: so unity5 as default when you install 12.04 desktop ?
[05:53] <Gotestra> Yea.
[05:53] <holmescn> kaushal: yup.
[05:53] <sfears> i'd say you have a crashed partition.
[05:53] <kaushal> ok
[05:53] <Gotestra> Wait wut
[05:53] <Gotestra> The drive has disappeared.
[05:53] <sfears> Your Z: drive is crashed
[05:53] <Gotestra> From explorer.
[05:53] <Gotestra> Wut
[05:53] <Gotestra> So, is the data unusable now?
[05:54] <Gotestra> o.o
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: it will come with unity, compiz and gnome by default
[05:54] <sfears> you can try to rebuild the partition table, but i'm not sure how to do that
[05:54] <Gotestra> :|
[05:54] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: ok
[05:54] <Gotestra> Uh never mind.
[05:54] <Gotestra> I'll look into this later man
[05:54] <sfears> perhaps dd the entire partition and try to mount the image with isomount, but i doubt that would work
[05:54] <Gotestra> Thanks a lot for the help though.
[05:54] <Gotestra> :|
[05:54] <kaushal> also so all unity, compiz and gnome are different desktop environment ?
[05:55] <sfears> maybe make a loopback device if we can figure out the proper starting block location
[05:55] <sfears> Gotestra: i need to see your fdisk -l output
[05:55] <Striking7|Away> sfears: Hey. I just popped back into the channel. Who's rebuilding a partition table?
[05:55] <sfears> Gotestra: is Striking7|Away
[05:56] <Gotestra> wut
[05:56] <zenmaster> Hi, does anyone have expierance installing iredmail?
[05:56] <Gotestra> OH another thing.
[05:56] <Gotestra> If I reboot now
[05:56] <Striking7> Ok. I've done this before with success, hopefully this is what Gotestra needs.
[05:56] <Striking7> Is it on a normal disk? Not raid or the like?
[05:56] <Gotestra> I dunno what RAID is.
[05:56] <Gotestra> So no, I don't think so.
[05:56] <sfears> i don't think so, i havn't seen the fdisk output but i think it's a standard extended partition
[05:56] <Striking7> Gotestra: Good, that means we're probably in familiar territory.
[05:57] <oscalation> can someone help me with a wpa_supplicant conf file? I cant get mine to work
[05:57] <Gotestra> :)
[05:57] <Striking7> I had a friend that had accidentally nuked his partition table
[05:57] <Striking7> He had a bunch of data that he wanted back
[05:57] <Gotestra> ;|
[05:57] <Striking7> We crossed our fingers and prayed :-p
[05:57] <Gotestra> k now I'm seriously scared
[05:57] <Striking7> Jumped into an Ubuntu liveCD and fired up Gparted
[05:57] <Gotestra> I got like 111 GB of data on that thing.
[05:57] <Gotestra> Can I access it on Windows?
[05:58] <Striking7> Partitioned it the way it was partitioned before - luckily we remembered the partition sizes
[05:58] <Striking7> and *here's the key* make sure to uncheck the "format" checkbox for each partition
[05:58] <Striking7> Worked flawlessly.
[05:58] <Gotestra> Goodness me.
[05:58] <sfears> i could see that working as long as it's not formatted
[05:58] <Striking7> Gotestra: This was a Windows install that we did it on yes.
[05:59] <Gotestra> SO, before I used Ubuntu
[05:59] <Gotestra> That is, tell ysterday night,
[05:59] <Gotestra> My Z drive worked fine.
[05:59] <Gotestra> But now,
[05:59] <Gotestra> I can't access its data ?!?!
[05:59] <Striking7> Is it NTFS?
[05:59] <Gotestra> Yeah.
[05:59] <Striking7> K. Same with my situation
[06:00] <Striking7> Did you partition it from Linux or from Windows?
[06:00] <Gotestra> Windows omg
[06:00] <Gotestra> Windows 7.
[06:00] <Striking7> Ok. I don't know for sure this would work then.
[06:00] <bartos01> hi folks
[06:00] <Gotestra> I don't wanna lose my data.
[06:00] <Striking7> Every partition tool is going to estimate partition boundaries a little differently.
[06:00] <Gotestra> Its like my life
[06:01] <Striking7>  My method may not work for you then.
[06:01] <Gotestra> I got my music, movies, and almost EVERYTHING on that thing.
[06:01] <Gotestra> :(
[06:01] <Guest91514> how do i change my nick
[06:01] <Guest91514> i forgot
[06:01] <sm0kec00led> Gotestra, is the drive encrypted with bitlocker?
[06:01] <Gotestra> No.
[06:01] <Gotestra> Nothing at all.
[06:01] <oscalation> Guest79567,  type in /nick newnick
[06:01] <Gotestra> Its an ordinary drive
[06:01] <Striking7> So I'm not going to recommend it, but I'll let you know what I did in case it's handy info that helps you figure out your solution
[06:01] <oscalation> Guest91514, sorry /nick newnick
[06:01] <Lazik> Gotestra: and you want to access it from windows or ubuntu?
[06:02] <Gotestra> Both.
[06:02] <Striking7> I don't know how Windows partition managers work - I haven't used Windows much for almost half a decade.
[06:02] <Gotestra> :o
[06:02] <ok> ah
[06:02] <Lazik> In which OS are you right now?
[06:02] <Gotestra> Ubuntu.
[06:02] <Striking7> But here's the idea... a partition table is pretty much like a library's card catalog.
[06:02] <sfears> Gotestra: i need to see your fdisk output
[06:02] <oscalation> Gotestra, This wont  help any now, but its always a good rule of thumb to have a backup of your data prior to making even the smallest of changes. Do you by chance have any backups ?
[06:02] <Guest98022> why did my name
[06:02] <Striking7> It just tells the OS where to look for what data. Where does a partition start, what type is it (NTFS in this case), and how big is it.
[06:02] <Gotestra> Some stuff, yeah.
[06:02] <bartos01> I have dual monitors with Nvidia drivers. how do I get a different wallpaper on each monitor. z
[06:02] <Gotestra> But not all :(
[06:02] <MrBusiness> Is the background for the 12.04 greeter still defined in /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf?
[06:02] <Guest98022> change back
[06:02] <sfears> sudo /sbin/losetup -fs /dev/sd?? -o $((512*<starting_block>))
[06:03] <Striking7> So if you can overwrite the partition table with the same data, you get your stuff back
[06:03] <Gotestra> Damn
[06:03] <bartos01> on unity 12.04
[06:03] <Gotestra> Wow I'm starting to lose grasp here.
[06:03] <Gotestra> I can't reboot since Ubuntu is upgrading.
[06:03] <MrBusiness> ooh, the background is user-specific now
[06:03] <sfears> replace sd?? with the correct partition and <starting_block> with the correct output from fdisk -l Gotestra
[06:03] <MrBusiness> hm
[06:03] <Gotestra> And so I can't boot into Windows and check.
[06:03] <Gotestra> Screw me.
[06:03] <Striking7> Sorry Gotestra - didn't mean to overinform :-p
[06:04] <Gotestra> lol no its k
[06:04] <Gotestra> I'll just go take a glass of water or something
[06:04] <sfears> Gotestra: ((512*63))
[06:04] <Gotestra> and sit down to study.
[06:04] <Striking7> I recommend scotch.
[06:04] <Gotestra> I'm 13.
[06:04] <Striking7> Oh
[06:04] <Gotestra> :|
[06:04] <Striking7> I do NOT recommend scotch in that case.
[06:04] <Gotestra> lolololol
[06:04]  * sfears still recomends scotch
[06:04] <goddard> whats the fastest easiest way to make an exact copy of my disk just in case 12.04 blows up my box?
[06:04] <Striking7> Lol sfears
[06:05] <Gotestra> My legs feel weak.
[06:05] <Guest98022> i wonder if this will stay
[06:05] <sfears> goddard: partclone
[06:05] <Gotestra> Damn Oxatocin
[06:05] <Guest98022> nope
[06:05] <oscalation> goddard, what OS are you using now?
[06:05] <Striking7> sfears: Is your first name Luke? I have a friend that adopts a similar nickname.
[06:05] <goddard> 11.10
[06:05] <Lazik> goddard: man dd
[06:05] <ImTheDude> will this stay
[06:05] <taxman> i won't use clonezilla
[06:05] <sfears> No, I am not Luke.
[06:05] <oscalation> Would rync work ?
[06:05] <oscalation> rsync .. sorry
[06:05] <fl1bbl3> gparted
[06:05] <Striking7> Ok Gotestra, let your upgrade finish and then worry about the partitioning.
[06:06] <uBUxUBu> is the icon launcher supposed to be "fixed" or immovable in 12.04?
[06:06] <Gotestra> Yeah
[06:06] <goddard> MyUnity
[06:06] <Gotestra> Thanks a lot for the support
[06:06] <goddard> helps
[06:06] <ImTheDude> i have a question
[06:06] <Gotestra> :)
[06:06] <Lazik> Gotestra: you have 2 drives? One C: and one Z:?
[06:06] <sfears> dd is not a fast way, it copys empty sectors
[06:06] <Gotestra> No many more.
[06:06] <Gotestra> Uh
[06:06] <Gotestra> C
[06:06] <Gotestra> Z
[06:06] <Gotestra> I
[06:06] <FloodBot1> Gotestra: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:06] <Gotestra> E
[06:06] <Striking7> It sure is accurate though sfears
[06:06] <sfears> Gotestra: do you have your fdisk output yet?
[06:06] <fl1bbl3> oscalation: try gparted
[06:07] <goddard> can i do it inside my OS without booting up a live cd?
[06:07] <Gotestra> I can't copy paste with my trackpad :(
[06:07] <ajin> hi all, does ubuntu12.04 support power VR SGX545 3D driver?
[06:07] <ImTheDude> does anyone like 10.10 netbook edition of ubuntu or am i wasting my time?
[06:07] <sfears> take a screen shot and paste it somewhere
[06:07] <Gotestra> Oyeah good idea
[06:07] <Lazik> Gotestra: might not be a partition issue, rather a not-mounting-the-disk issue
[06:07] <wylde> !10.10
[06:07] <sfears> 10.10 was a good release
[06:07] <Gotestra> k Ima screenshot
[06:07] <BlendedByI> Any thoughts on NFS vs GFS2 for a master/master FS?
[06:07] <sourfrog> Has anyone used ubuntu on Lenovo IdeaPad y570 ???  Curious if everything works
[06:08] <Lazik> Gotestra: in a terminal write : sudo fdisk -l
[06:08] <Gotestra> Yeah I remember.
[06:08] <goddard> i heard when you upgrade 12.04 reinstalls programs will the programs i compiled be broken?
[06:08] <Gotestra> Thanks :)
[06:08] <ImTheDude> or is 10.4 better on my netbook as far as speed goes i hear 10.10 ubuntu has alot of bugs is this information true
[06:08] <Lazik> Gotestra: paste the output here and we might be able to help you
[06:09] <ImTheDude> im happy with 10.4 i dont want to downgrade
[06:09] <ajin> it seems that there's no linux 3d driver for power vr sgx545 graphic card
[06:09] <Amdpc> HI..How to quit cmus in terminal?
[06:09] <sk1special> i have a audio related question..
[06:09] <goddard> gpart doesn't copy a drive
[06:10] <goddard> it partitions a drive from what i can see
[06:10] <taxman> 10.04 = end-of-life soon?
[06:10] <sfears> goddard: partclone
[06:10] <three18ti_> wow, the ubuntu servers must be getting -hammered- today...  247kB/s  updating apt... haha 86 kB/s now.  Gotta love release day.
[06:10] <oscalation> why part a drive, just rysnc what you want to backup and be done
[06:10] <Gotestra> http://i.imgur.com/V7ExQ.png
[06:11] <oscalation> i mean image
[06:11] <goddard> sfears: to use that i gotta boot into a live cd?
[06:11] <sfears> oscalation: compression for storage
[06:11] <sfears> yes goddard
[06:11] <rymate1234> hmmm
[06:11] <Gotestra> sfears : http://i.imgur.com/V7ExQ.png
[06:11] <ajin> hello?anyone knows about power vr stuff?
[06:11] <oscalation> sfears, wouldnt you save more space by only backing up files you need and not system files
[06:11] <Striking7> goddard: You'll likely need to recompile :(
[06:12] <sfears> sfs is your problem Gotestra.  what is sfs?
[06:12] <rymate1234> TIL chrome has a menubar
[06:12] <goddard> bah im not gonna upgrade then
[06:12] <Gotestra> I dunno?
[06:12] <Gotestra> wut sfs
[06:12] <Lazik> you screw up big time
[06:12] <Gotestra> where?
[06:12] <goddard> use Mozilla
[06:12] <Lazik> tell us what you did, you obviously only have one drive
[06:12] <Gotestra> I have one drive
[06:13] <Gotestra> Various partitions.
[06:13] <sfears> Gotestra: try sudo mount -t xfs /dev/sda4 /mnt
[06:13] <Gotestra> You're scaring me now.
[06:13] <sfears> sorry
[06:13] <sfears> Gotestra: try sudo mount -t sfs /dev/sda4 /mnt
[06:13] <elslunko> Anyone use dejadup for backing up 2tb+ worth of data?
[06:13] <Lazik> he said it was ntfs
[06:14] <sfears> yeah, he said
[06:14] <Lazik> he probably overwrote the windows partition when he installed ubuntu
[06:14] <Gotestra> Goodness me, I'll leave now.
[06:14] <goddard> elslunko: the first back up will suck but after that it isnt to bad
[06:14] <sfears> Lazik: http://i.imgur.com/V7ExQ.png
[06:14] <Gotestra> I'll come on later.
[06:14] <Gotestra> I need to study
[06:15] <bartos01> anyone using dual monitors?
[06:15] <Lazik> yea i saw
[06:15] <oscalation> hey, i have an idea for the guy that formated/repartitioned his drive ... data recovery
[06:15] <Gotestra> And my heartbeats racing from fear, so...
[06:15] <sfears> we're proably close to helping Gotestra
[06:15] <Gotestra> :|
[06:15] <Gotestra> Go ahead.
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> oscalation: try foremost, your backups wil be the easiest way
[06:15] <sfears> i need to find something about sfs, you see where your fdisk says sfs
[06:15] <sfears> if that said ntfs it would be working
[06:15] <Gotestra> o.o
[06:16] <elslunko> goddard, Yeah going through that right now. I used BIT before but trying out DD this time around. Just worried about compressing all that data.
[06:16] <Lazik> Gotestra: are you running ubuntu from the cd (as in livecd) or did you install ubuntu to your disk?
[06:16] <oscalation> ActionParsnip, not for me, for Gotestra
[06:16] <Gotestra> For info, I used Wubi to install Ubuntu.
[06:16] <Gotestra> Yeah to disk.
[06:16] <oscalation> Gotestra, you used Wubi????
[06:17] <Gotestra> Yeah
[06:17] <sfears> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt -o force Gotestra
[06:17] <Lazik> and when it asked you about partition, what did you do?
[06:17] <uchiha> me to
[06:17] <sfears> wait Gotestra
[06:17] <sfears> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda4 /mnt -o force Gotestra
[06:17] <Gotestra> Exactly what does that do?
[06:17] <kfizz1> Anyone having issues with flash not working in chrome after upgrade?
[06:18] <wylde> Gotestra: http://askubuntu.com/questions/41667/how-is-sfs-partition-different-than-other
[06:18] <sfears> it mount's the dev/sda4 partition to the /mnt folder as type ntfs-3g and if it gives any errors it tries to force it to mount anyway Gotestra
[06:18] <Lazik> kfizz1: yea always does, I reinstall the flash libs
[06:18] <kfizz1> Via a deb or apt-get?
[06:19] <rodayo> How do I update from the beta 2 to the final release?
[06:19] <matthewL> rodayo: good question.
[06:20] <Gotestra> Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
[06:20] <sfears> that's a new one Gotestra
[06:21] <matthewL> I'm downloading the iso, burning to disk, and there should be an upgrade option.
[06:21] <Gotestra> lol
[06:21] <sfears> sfs = secure file system = it's encrypted from anywhere outside of the windows that encrypted it
[06:21] <oscalation> Gotestra, do you have any backups of this data?
[06:21] <glebihan> rodayo, matthewL : there's nothing to do apart from installing all package updates
[06:21] <Naemdar> Well my external hd project didn't go so well.  may have bricked a 1t usb 3.0 drive lol
[06:21] <Gotestra> No.
[06:21] <Gotestra> Its not sensitive stuff
[06:21] <matthewL> Ah.
[06:22] <Gotestra> Only  music and movies and stuff
[06:22] <oscalation> Gotestra, is it stuff you wished you backed up?
[06:22] <Gotestra> SO I didn't think I'd need it.
[06:22] <rodayo> glebihan, so how about these "crash reports" that pop up occasionally will those disappear?
[06:22] <zenmaster> I am having the hardest time getting any kind of mail server installed on a fresh install of Ubuntu-Linux-Server-11.10.
[06:22] <Gotestra> Yea
[06:22] <zykotick9> !final > rodayo
[06:22] <zenmaster> I have tried several Postfix tutorials.
[06:22] <Gotestra> CUz it'll take me ages to redownload this stuff lol
[06:22] <sfears> Gotestra: you should be able to backup everything from inside windows.
[06:22] <Gotestra> I'm a poor guy lmao
[06:22] <Naemdar> Does anyone know how to make unity go 3d cube? or sphere mode?
[06:23] <Gotestra> I'm saving up to buy an HDD
[06:23] <zenmaster> I recently discovered iRedMail. Tried that twice now and still to no avail. The first time after trying other mail installations. This time on a fresh Ubuntu install.
[06:23] <syk> i am having a problem installing ubuntu 12.04, everytime i try to install from a usb/cd-rom it always shows error "error prefix not set" and just hangs when i click an option.
[06:23] <Gotestra> An external HDD
[06:23] <oscalation> have we concluded that Gotestra chose his windows partition to be reformated to install Ubuntu?
[06:23] <matthewL> Y
[06:23] <sfears> you've encrypted the Z: drive, so you can't see it unless you unencrypt it first, which is booting into windows so you can see the Z: drive
[06:23] <sfears> Gotestra:
[06:23] <matthewL> Compiz for 3d
[06:23] <Gotestra> I didn't reformat LOL
[06:23] <Naemdar> is that an easy setup?
[06:23] <Gotestra> I would be absolutely mad to do that.
[06:23] <Gotestra> I just used Wubi
[06:24] <Gotestra> and gave the Ubuntu install 10 GB.
[06:24] <matthewL> Yes, very easy. In synaptic.
[06:24] <oscalation> Gotestra, have you attempted to boot back into windows?
[06:24] <Gotestra> Ubuntu is ugrading itself.
[06:24] <Gotestra> So I can't atm.
[06:24] <oscalation> ah, that would be my first option. let that finish, then the pc should restart
[06:25] <clark> hello, i have a thinkpad 420s and my internet connection is randomly bogged down.  i just installed 12.04
[06:25] <oscalation> if not restart it and cross your fingers
[06:25] <Gotestra> :|
[06:25] <clark> i tried the first two unixmen.com fixes and it did not work =(
[06:25] <Gotestra> There's a different feeling to all this stuff.
[06:25] <sfears> Gotestra: where is sda7?
[06:25] <Gotestra> I dunno.
[06:25] <sfears> it's not shown in your screen shot, you're drive is unplugged
[06:25] <clark> i do not have an ath9k.conf file
[06:26] <Gotestra> I'm sure it was sda7 when My Stuff had appeared in Explorer.
[06:26] <Gotestra> 877/1420 files done.
[06:26] <Gotestra> k
[06:26] <sfears> did you try sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda4 /mnt -o force Gotestra
[06:26] <Gotestra> Yeah
[06:26] <Gotestra> Says already open.
[06:27] <sfears> try sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda3 /mnt -o force Gotestra
[06:28] <Gotestra> Not even an error lol
[06:28] <sfears> good
[06:28] <sfears> ls /mnt
 try boot whis multiboot compact disk or flash-usb, and copy your "gold" files
[06:28] <sk1special>   okay. im running. TV 0 < Rear PC In ; Rear PC Out to TV 1 In ; PC Headphone Jack to Headset ; and TV 2 Out to Speakers.  and my computer sees everything..shows the jacks and the sound bar bumpin while audios on. but im only getting sound in my headset..is it just only capable of actually out putting to one source?
[06:28] <Guest80665> Anyone thinking about oracle database.
[06:28] <sfears> does it display anything Gotestra?
[06:28] <Gotestra> Nothing at all.
[06:28] <Gotestra> :|
[06:28] <Gotestra> Kill me nao.
[06:28] <syk> i am having a problem installing ubuntu 12.04, everytime i try to install from a usb/cd-rom it always shows error "error prefix not set" and just hangs when i click an option.
[06:28] <sfears> you typed ls /mnt?
[06:28] <Gotestra> yeah
[06:29] <matthewL> What about it  guest?
[06:29] <sfears> no error, just blank?
[06:29] <Guest80665> Ubuntu, did you think about install oracle database on Ubuntu, hard
[06:29] <oscalation> is there anything in ls /media  by chance?
[06:29] <Gotestra> Yeah
[06:29] <Gotestra> The drive?
[06:29] <sfears> ok sudo umount /mnt
[06:29] <Guest80665> Web traffic,
[06:30] <Guest80665> Enterprise Manager
[06:30] <matthewL> Guest: have you worked with another free DB, like mySQL or post gres?
[06:30] <oscalation> whois Guest80665
[06:30] <sfears> try sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /mnt Gotestra
[06:30] <Gotestra> kk
[06:30] <Guest80665> MySQL
[06:30] <matthewL> MySQL it's really easy.
[06:31] <Gotestra> Already opened error/
[06:31] <Gotestra> zomg
[06:31] <Gotestra> Cant wait to boot back into Windows now.
[06:31] <Guest80665> Use little memory, small, meet hardware, small resources.
[06:31] <matthewL> Ah.
[06:31] <Gotestra> Y MY INTERNETZ SO SLAW
[06:32] <Gotestra> Its downloading at 48 KBPS
[06:32] <Gotestra> :okay:
[06:32] <taxman> indeed. it won't take more ram than a copy-to-ram linux
[06:32] <Guest80665> Developer Tools, I think Oracle had some middleware, I don't know those.
[06:32] <Gotestra> Almost there.
[06:33] <Gotestra> About 509 more files to go.
[06:33] <Guest80665> We know some Java, may Java develop can help MySQL install, and run some codes, little ubuntu OS
[06:34] <oscalation> ?
[06:34] <clark> hello, can someone help me get wireless connection to not be so slow on 12.04? i tried the stuff listed on www.unixmen.com/resolve-slow-connexion-when-using-wifi-in-ubuntu-1104-natty-narwhal/
[06:34] <matthewL> I know a bit of Java and SQL and mySQL, etc
[06:34] <matthewL> Ubuntu is perfect for these apps
[06:34] <clark> none of these three things fixed my problem
[06:35] <oscalation> clark, your issue is just that your internet is slower in 12.04 ?
[06:36] <clark> yes much slower except irc seems to be okay. its just when im surfing the web
[06:36] <clark> i had the same problem with the last 2 releases though
[06:36] <oscalation> clark, laptop or desktop
[06:36] <clark> thinkpad 420s laptop
[06:36] <oscalation> using built in wifi card or usb ?
[06:36] <Guest80665> Oracle E-Business Suite, a lot of solutions, but we can't afford, may be use Java, and MySQL
[06:37] <Artemis3> Gotestra, do tell if you get an error right after the downloads finish, i'm unable to upgrade because it fails at that point.
[06:37] <Gotestra> What error do you get
[06:38] <clark> oscalation, built in wifi
[06:38] <clark> it works fine with windows
[06:38] <matthewL> Interesting, 665.  For the price of libre office base, mySQL, and Java, you can't go wrong.
[06:38] <Artemis3> Gotestra, 'E:Couldn't configure pre-depend libtinfo5 for libncurses5, probably a dependency cycle.'
[06:38] <oscalation> clark, are you using Firefox in ubuntu ?
[06:38] <Gotestra> Didn't get that message so far,
[06:38] <Artemis3> Gotestra, its after the packages finish downloading
[06:38] <Gotestra> I'm at 956 files.
[06:38] <clark> its really strange. google search works pretty quickly, but as soon as i try to go to any link from google search, it usually times out
[06:39] <Gotestra> Out of 1420
[06:39] <Gotestra> So it'll take a while.
[06:39] <clark> firefox. just updated it as well
[06:39] <Artemis3> Gotestra, its ok, i'm lurking here ;)
[06:39] <Gotestra> :3
[06:39] <oscalation> clark, what does speed test put you at ?
[06:39] <taxman> lol, my 12.04 has ff 12.0
[06:40] <taxman> html5 html5 html5
[06:40] <taxman> hehehe
[06:40] <Gotestra> I need to figure out how to utilize my 4 GB of RAM in Ubuntu.
[06:40] <oscalation> clark, speedtest.net that is
[06:40] <Guest80665> Linux, Servers, Storage, the only one thing, how we configure clients, servers, and how we manage them, these cause the failure.
[06:40] <Gotestra> I made a RAMDisk for Chrome in Windows
[06:40] <Gotestra> but Ubuntu barely uses over 1.5 GB.....
[06:40] <Artemis3> Gotestra, chrome can eat memory very easily, just open like 40 tabs
[06:40] <taxman> i will give each vm 4gb of ram
[06:40] <Gotestra> :o
[06:41] <matthewL> Ah, so cloud, then?
[06:41] <taxman> no matter it's 32-bit or 64-bit
[06:41] <taxman> i have 16gb of ram
[06:41] <Gotestra> I'm at like 11 tabs open.
[06:41] <Gotestra> LOL Y U USING UBUNTU
[06:41] <Artemis3> to few~
[06:41] <taxman> yes, i just downloaded 12.04
[06:41] <matthewL> Linux power@Gotestra
[06:42] <Guest80665> We don't familiar to ubuntu, then chance to success or lose
[06:42] <Somya> Anyone please help me out I have recently upgradedt my ubuntu to 11.04 and after the upgrade my wifi is not working and wlan0 driver is not showing up
[06:42] <clark> oscalation, speedtest only half loads, banners and links at the bottom
[06:42] <matthewL> 665, are there Abby Linux admins, there?
[06:42] <matthewL> Any, I mean.
[06:43] <Guest80665> Many companies, communications, universities, retail, utilities use ubuntu, but we really lack of Linux admin
[06:43] <clark> oscalation, it just finished loading. DL 3.28 Mbps, UL 0.07 Mbps
[06:43] <oscalation> Somya, if you open terminal by pressing CTRL + ALT +T and run infconfig -a what is listed?
[06:44] <oscalation> ifconfig -a
[06:44] <matthewL> 665, what do you make use of on servers?
[06:44] <oscalation> clark, and that page loaded very slowly hu?
[06:44] <clark> oscalation, yes.
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> is it safe to install precise now?
[06:45] <Somya> oscalation: its showing eth0 and lo
[06:45] <clark> oscalation, it seems more like it partially loaded and then paused for a long time
[06:45] <matthewL> I'll let you know lotus. I'm sure it is.
[06:45] <taxman> yeah, it's possible
[06:46] <matthewL> Lotus: i'm upgrading now.
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[06:47] <taxman> ubuntu is not very useable by default
[06:47] <taxman> you have to tweak
[06:47] <matthewL> Software center is good., tax
[06:48] <clark> sometimes you get unlucky with hardward specs
[06:48] <oscalation> Somya, clark can you give the output of this command please .. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && nm-tool | pastebinit
[06:48] <clark> or compatibility and proprietary shit, it seems like
[06:48] <oscalation> or just run nm-tool and put it up on pastebin
[06:49] <sk1special> i got it. installed gnome alsa mixer. ltr
[06:49] <matthewL> Why, Clark?
[06:49] <diimdeep> please help with configuration http://serverfault.com/questions/382958/proftpd-configuration-mod-auth-file-cross-folders-with-different-rights-in-group
[06:50] <holmes> join #ubuntu-cn
[06:50] <holmes> #ubuntu-cn
[06:50] <clark> oscalation, http://paste.ubuntu.com/949113/
[06:51] <Somya> oscalation, 1st command sudo apt-get install pastebinit- installed pastebinit and the second command give output NetworkManager Tool  State: connected  - Device: eth0  [Auto eth0] ----------------------------------------------------   Type:              Wired   Driver:            r8169   State:             connected   Default:           yes   HW Address:        18:03:73:73:A7:90    Capabilities:     Carrier Detect:  yes     Speed:
[06:51] <clark> i think i have bad luck with hardware.
[06:52] <Go_Implementatio> We never think a lot of things on server, consider the server running the system well or not.
[06:52] <abhi_69> hello
[06:52] <abhi_69> i just installed ubuntu 12.04
[06:52] <matthewL> Well, mainstream Dell had gotten everything working well enough.
[06:52] <abhi_69> everything looking good, but facing problem with nautilus
[06:52] <gaelfx> clone1018: what's wrong with it?
[06:52] <m00se> well clone1018 - the first thing you do is not get banned LOL
[06:53] <abhi_69> nautilus crashes frequently while trying to access my NTFS partitions
[06:53] <abhi_69> any solution?
[06:53] <Go_Implementatio> Usually we use old computers instead of large companies using new equipment
[06:53] <gaelfx> abhi_69: ntfs partitions on your machine or on another machine?
[06:53] <matthewL> 69, can you use a different file manager?
[06:53] <abhi_69> gaelfx, my machine
[06:54] <abhi_69> i have two NTFS partitions, auto mounted via NTFS-config
[06:54] <surt> Hello, I've got (probably) an easy one. When using the terminal I noticed when I hit tab, it puts a space after files/folders. Can this be changed?
[06:54] <Go_Implementatio> Something always happen, ubuntu self develop programs not meet old computers, always have some small problems.
[06:54] <abhi_69> when i try to open them via nautilus (file manager/files) it craches
[06:55] <abhi_69> i can open them but can't access them :(
[06:55] <abhi_69> everything ok for ubuntu's partition though
[06:55] <abhi_69> how to fix this?
[06:55] <gaelfx> abhi_69: well, the easiest solution I can think of is to make them not be NTFS, but I'm assuming you don't want to do that?
[06:56] <Go_Implementatio> We don't know the exact problem is, then we consider, backup, save info, if information in the hard disk can remain, everything fine.
[06:56] <abhi_69> gaelfx, yes, i have lot of data in those partitions
[06:56] <matthewL> Xfce uses thunder , and kde uses dolphin, how do these react?
[06:56] <abhi_69> matthewL, i'm using gnome-shell, using nautilus
[06:57] <abhi_69> do i upload error messages while i'm trying to access them?
[06:57] <Go_Implementatio> We can't promise data from thunder can transfer to dolphin without mistakes. only possible way is save them to hard disk, maybe no errors and got a copy.
[06:57] <gaelfx> abhi_69: that might help
[06:57] <matthewL> 69, yes
[06:58] <abhi_69> gaelfx, okey, uploading to pastebin
[06:58] <surt> FYI: Found issue for trailing space in console: "rm /etc/bash_completion.d/acroread.sh"
[06:58] <Go_Implementatio> If we can promise data right, no errors, this is very successful ubuntu, backup the data, then try to think thunder, dolphin.
[06:58] <surt> Ta.
[06:59] <hupan> ?
[06:59] <Go_Implementatio> But on servers we always thinking about what we will implement. We usually thinking about MySQL.
[07:01] <woq> hi, did somebody checked if snx (vpn) is working fine with ubu 12.4 amd64?
[07:02] <ikonia> woq: why would it not be ?
[07:02] <mbalmer> hello.  is it possible to specify a timeout for automatic login during which other uses can interrupt the timeout and login themselves (as does gdm3 on Debian squeeze)?
[07:02] <woq> ikonia, i found snx very buggy ;P, got many problems with it on ie fedora 64
[07:02] <Naemdar> I am curious is there a open gl port of system shock 1 or 2 for linux?
[07:03] <ikonia> woq: so either a.) fedora's build is bad, which is not an ubuntu relevence b.) the software has problems in which case ubuntu can't fix it
[07:04] <abhi_69> gaelfx, there? here is the error- http://pastebin.com/Khgx2vT8
[07:04] <woq> ikonia, i know that, LOL :) i was just asking is it working fine, if somebody checked it i will switch to new ubuntu, if nobody checked - i will check it on vm
[07:04] <Go_Implementatio> MySQL can promise data, ubuntu can work hard to maintain MySQL data backup.
[07:04] <ikonia> woq: just try it
[07:04] <abhi_69> any idea?
[07:05] <Go_Implementatio> Oracle Database can enhance the work on ubuntu, base on open source, and Oracle Database can promise some enhance data works.
[07:05] <ikonia> Go_Implementatio: who are you talking to ?
[07:05] <taxman> it's a commercial?
[07:05] <ikonia> I hope not
[07:06] <Go_Implementatio> Just according to thoughts, I don't know right or false.
[07:06] <Hebram> iconia:  Anyone who will listen.
[07:06] <ikonia> Go_Implementatio: who are you talking to ?
[07:06] <abhi_69> i'm having problem while accessing NTFS partitions from nautilus, it crashes frequently
[07:06] <Go_Implementatio> Anyone use ubuntu
[07:06] <abhi_69> plz any solution guys
[07:06] <ikonia> Go_Implementatio: ok, please stop, it's a support channel if you need help, ask a question.
[07:06] <abhi_69> here is the error message- http://pastebin.com/Khgx2vT8
[07:06] <gaelfx> what's the command to ask apt-get what packages are available matching a string?
[07:07] <ikonia> abhi_69: can you not see the error in that paste ?
[07:08] <abhi_69> ikonia, yes, i can see, but can't understand what to do?
[07:08] <ikonia> abhi_69: what have you done ?
[07:08] <abhi_69> noting
[07:08] <greenit> hi, i wanted to update to ubuntu 12.04, but the server are veeery slow.... i am from austria, the austrian server has a dl-rate from ~20kb/s, the swiss one has a dl-rate form ~50kb/s and the main-server has a dl-rate from ~3kb/s for me... does any1 know a fast server to upgrade?
[07:08] <abhi_69> just a fresh installation of ubuntu 12.04
[07:08] <ikonia> abhi_69: ok, so the error is "no such file or directory" what's the first thing that's worth checking ?
[07:08] <greenit> servers*
[07:08] <gaelfx> abhi_69: whoa, dude, why are you using samba share for a partition that's already on your machine?
[07:08] <Naemdar> should I or should I not go to 12.04?
[07:08] <ikonia> Naemdar: your choice
[07:08] <abhi_69> i'm not using any share
[07:09] <Naemdar> going to get used to 1110 before I make that jump
[07:09] <abhi_69> this partition is not shared parition
[07:09] <mbalmer> so anyone knows how to set a timeout for automatic logins?  or rather, a wating time before autologin happens?
[07:09] <jham_> who know codeigniter?
[07:09] <Naemdar> This is going to become my favorite os for just messing around on the net and such
[07:10] <gaelfx> abhi_69: the file address in your error looks like you're trying to use samba to access it
[07:10] <uBUxUBu> is the icon launcher in 12.04 supposed to fixed-immovable? when i had 11.10 it always moved ion and out of sight? was this a purposeful change or am i using it wrong?
[07:10] <XDESIGN> hello
[07:10] <abhi_69> gaelfx, not at all, i don't have any shared partitions
[07:10] <abhi_69> i'm trying to access them via nautilus
[07:11] <Naemdar> If I asked on a windows forum if I should go to windows 8  or stay with 7 they would have flayed me alive for even wanting to stay with 7. lol
[07:11] <ikonia> abhi_69: think about it, the error is no such file......what do you need to check
[07:11] <greenit> does any1 know if i can see the server-load of the repo-servers anywhere on the net?
[07:11] <ikonia> greenit: you can't
[07:11] <greenit> damn^^
[07:12] <abhi_69> ikonia, okey, here it is, i can access file/folders from nautilus when i open them via 'open with files' menu option
[07:12] <ikonia> abhi_69: not what I asked
[07:12] <abhi_69> but can't access them while double clicking them or open
[07:12] <Go_Implementatio> Ubuntu may be can provide some applications, we call basic, and ubuntu intall database and tests, I am planning install MySQL in ubuntu, may be a cluster, keep data, and use in some corporations, a lot of maintainance, how to develop MySQL use advanced applications.
[07:12] <greenit> lol, nice... in ubuntu there is the option "choose best server", question solved^^
[07:12] <ikonia> abhi_69: think about the first thing you need to check, the error is "directory not found"
[07:13] <abhi_69> it's already mounted
[07:13] <abhi_69> via NTFS-config
[07:13] <vega-> seems dual display configuration still needs to be done via nvidia-settings if using the binary drivers?
[07:13] <ikonia> abhi_69: please listen to what I'm saying
[07:13] <Naemdar> One thing is certain tonight is probably not the best time to be trying to do command line stuff.  a bottle of gin and mango juice, who knows what I will end up doing lol
[07:13] <matthewL> Lotus, still around?
[07:13] <ikonia> abhi_69: the error is "cannot open directory" - what do you think the first thin you need to check is ?
[07:14] <oal> I upgraded to 12.04 now, but my mouse pointer is stuck on only one of my two screens
[07:15] <oal> When I move it to the edge of my left screen, it stops, but I can see half the cursor on the right
[07:15] <abhi_69> yes, got it
[07:15] <gaelfx> oal: move it as far to the other side of the screen as you can
[07:15] <abhi_69> but i said already that- i don't have any share on those partitions
[07:15] <abhi_69> i can't even understand why ubuntu showing me this error
[07:16] <oal> gaelfx: it stops there as well
[07:16] <abhi_69> i also have Fuduntu installed, i can access them from Fuduntu very well
[07:16] <abhi_69> problem is with ubuntu only
[07:16] <gaelfx> oal: do you have auto-hide enabled for your dockamijig?
[07:16] <abhi_69> even from a live CD i also have this problem
[07:16] <oal> gaelfx: how do I enable that?
[07:17] <gaelfx> oal: ok, maybe we should start over, are you using any proprietary drivers for graphics?
[07:17] <oal> gaelfx: yes, nvidia
[07:18] <XDESIGN> how to install Emerald theme manager on ubuntu 12.04
[07:18] <XDESIGN> ?
[07:18] <gaelfx> oal: and how did you set up your dual monitors? through the Displays settings?
[07:18] <ikonia> XDESIGN: it's dead
[07:18] <oal> gaelfx: nvidia-settings
[07:18] <XDESIGN> ikonia ?:)
[07:18] <throwaway_rq> 12.04 is awesome
[07:19] <ikonia> XDESIGN: emerald is dead
[07:19] <gaelfx> oal: and I assume you chose extended, not twinview?
[07:19] <matthewL> What it's good about it, rq?
[07:19] <throwaway_rq> any suggested post-install guides for extra and requested packages?
[07:19] <throwaway_rq> matthewL: some hardware issues i had on my dell xps are all gone
[07:19] <ikonia> throwaway_rq: there are no "guides" because it's up to YOU what you install
[07:19] <matthewL> Great!
[07:19] <oal> gaelfx: let me check. I use the same configuration I used under 11.10, and it worked fine before
[07:20] <throwaway_rq> ikonia: i undersatnd, i meant in a general way (i.e. multimedia guide, IDE guide, server guide, etc)
[07:20] <matthewL> rq, i'm installing now.
[07:20] <throwaway_rq> so taht i can read up and decide
[07:20] <ikonia> throwaway_rq: https://help.ubuntu.com
[07:20] <oal> gaelfx: I can only choose between twinview and separate x screen. It's twinview now
[07:20] <gaelfx> oal: did you have to re-set it up after installing 12.04 or did it use config files from your /home?
[07:20] <throwaway_rq> ikonia: neverind, thanks anyway
[07:20] <throwaway_rq> matthewL: vm or actual hardware?
[07:21] <ikonia> throwaway_rq: did you actually read the URL I gave you
[07:21] <oal> gaelfx: when this first happened, I reconfigured it, but got the same result
[07:21] <throwaway_rq> ikonia: i did, numerous times.
[07:21] <ikonia> throwaway_rq: it has many short sharp guides about how to do and setup specific tasks
[07:21] <matthewL> Annual dual boot w windows 7
[07:21] <gaelfx> oal: I think you should disable the dual monitor, then apply the settings change and then try to set it up again (separate xscreen style)
[07:21] <throwaway_rq> ikonia: yeah - i understand - there's just "too many" there's no upvote/ranking system for the guides that are good/generically appraised
[07:22] <oal> gaelfx: ok, I'll give it a try, thanks
[07:22] <ikonia> throwaway_rq: you don't need a ranking on https://help.ubuntu.com it's all official ubuntu documentation and can be trusted
[07:22] <gaelfx> oal: IIRC, you should have use the mouse to select where the second screen goes
[07:22] <throwaway_rq> ikonia: ok, thanks, i'll go through them again
[07:22] <matthewL> ubuntuforums is good too.
[07:23] <throwaway_rq> right now im installing gnome-session-fallback... can't stand unity still :\
[07:23] <gaelfx> does anyone know if there's a trick to importing .ovpn files, or do I just have to do it manually?
[07:23] <matthewL> rq great sever setups.
[07:24] <throwaway_rq> matthewL: nice. I needed some guidelines on setting up servers. i'll head over for that as well
[07:24] <Kriss3d> Im just upgrading now.. sadly amsn will be uninstalled now
[07:24] <throwaway_rq> unity GUI on vmware unity is terrible
[07:25] <woozly> guys, after upgrading to 12.04 from 11.10, my top panel and unity disapear :(
[07:25] <woozly> only desktop with icons
[07:25] <woozly> what to do? :(
[07:25] <throwaway_rq> woozly: alt_ctrl+backspace and relogin, does it draw back?
[07:25] <Kriss3d> i removed unity a long time ago.. hope i wont have to do this again
[07:25] <PawanPutraHanuma> how can i upgrade to 12.04 from 10.04 thru command line?
[07:25] <gaelfx> woozly: I will pay you serious sums of cash if you can make my top panel disappear as well :D
[07:26] <ikonia> !upgrade > PawanPutraHanuma
[07:26] <woozly> alt+ctrl + backspace doesn't work (
[07:26] <ikonia> !nozap | woozly
[07:26] <matthewL> I use vbox with windows with no errors.
[07:26] <PawanPutraHanuma> ikonia, ok
[07:26] <ikonia> !dontzap
[07:27] <oal> gaelfx: no difference :(
[07:27] <throwaway_rq> i killed my macbook air installing ub12.04
[07:27] <throwaway_rq> my fault >_>
[07:27] <gaelfx> oal: when you setup the separate xscreen, did the other monitor turn all grey and give you an X cursor?
[07:27] <vega-> why would anyone want to install ubuntu on a macbook ..
[07:27] <throwaway_rq> dd'd the installer on rdisk0s5 and it wont boot again - most likely i screwed up the EFS
[07:27] <oal> gaelfx: yup
[07:28] <abhi_69> gaelfx, okey, that weird shared folder problem solved by a ubuntu forum post
[07:28] <throwaway_rq> vega-" because you can
[07:28] <abhi_69> now it showing new error- Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:28] <gaelfx> vega-: undesirable gift turned into something more desirable
[07:28] <throwaway_rq> gaelfx:  in some way, yes it is .
[07:28] <throwaway_rq> dont like osx in general, been workign with it for 4 years, still can't say i can develop a taste for it
[07:28] <tarzeau> throwaway_rq: it's so great!
[07:28] <abhi_69> now that share problem is solved, but still i can't access NTFS drives via nautilus
[07:29] <abhi_69> showing new error: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:29] <woozly> how to reinstall unity?
[07:29] <throwaway_rq> tarzeau: how so?
[07:29] <Kriss3d> vega cause macOS looks like fecals ?
[07:29] <abhi_69> any help?
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> does gnome classic come by default?
[07:29] <gaelfx> oal: I think you're supposed to click and drage the monitor you want there there, does that make sense?
[07:29] <throwaway_rq> woozly: can you try creating a new user account and login ?
[07:29] <Kriss3d> lotus you can always make gnome3 look like gnome 2
[07:29] <throwaway_rq> woozly: i am suspecting profile issue
[07:29] <vega-> i've been using ubuntu for 7 years and got a macbook air a few months ago.. very impressed and usage of ubuntu-laptop has dropped a LOT ..
[07:29] <tarzeau> throwaway_rq: if you are a developer, the api's are a dream. and for professional users, it's great too
[07:29] <woozly> throwaway_rq: Ill try
[07:29] <gaelfx> woozly: sudo apt-get install unity
[07:29] <mrsuchyPL> hi
[07:29] <tarzeau> throwaway_rq: like when you're into graphics, typography, photographic stuff
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> Kriss3d: i mean do you need to install gnome classic, or is it default login option?
[07:30] <oal> gaelfx: from the ubuntu screen manager or nvidia-settings? The ubuntu one seems to only detect 1 screen and calls it "laptop"
[07:30] <throwaway_rq> tarzeau: yea i am but i still dont like it.
[07:30] <tarzeau> throwaway_rq: you probably are young? or missed completely nextstep/openstep?
[07:30] <throwaway_rq> it's a preference thingy
[07:30] <gaelfx> oal: nvidia-settings, the other one is mostly useless
[07:30] <tarzeau> throwaway_rq: yes i am what? you're working what?
[07:30] <Kriss3d> lotus not sure.. im still just upgrading to 12.04 but if its anything like 11.10 then you gotta install it manually
[07:31] <throwaway_rq> yes i do work with graphics and film editing
[07:31] <mrsuchyPL> I want copy to another partition all my ubuntu with original priviliges. I login in root and copy with midnigt commander but then system change priviliges ? how can i set original priviliges to copy files ?
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> kriss3d: same here upgrading :p
[07:31] <throwaway_rq> and no i am not young
[07:31] <tarzeau> throwaway_rq: do you have a portfolio, web page?
[07:31] <gvandeweyer> should a do-release-upgrade already work without the -d(evelopment) switch?
[07:31] <vega-> oal: same problem, seems ubuntus display settings are totally useless if using nvidia binary driver
[07:31] <gvandeweyer> I'm coming from 10.
[07:31] <tarzeau> throwaway_rq: you like unity?
[07:31] <throwaway_rq> tarzeau: hell no.
[07:31] <gvandeweyer> I'm coming from 10.04 lts server
[07:31] <Kriss3d> lotus i found ways to make it both have classic as default. but also made it look like gnome 2 and with no unity at all.
[07:31] <vega-> oal: at least when using more than 1 display
[07:31] <oal> vega-: is your cursor also stuck between your screens?
[07:31] <throwaway_rq> xfce
[07:32] <vega-> oal: don't know about that, main problem is that it isn't able to configure dual screens properly
[07:32] <Kriss3d> when you wanna work with your linux and not just surf the web.. unity is about as useful as a eel with a pair of gloves
[07:32] <oal> vega-: I found out if you move the cursor very fast towards the edge, it'll go through "the wall" between the screens
[07:32] <gaelfx> Kriss3d: I would never handle an eel gloveless
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> Kriss3d: i heard precise has gnome classic instead of unity2d, i never liked 2d
[07:32] <vega-> oal: how convenient
[07:32] <oal> vega-: really odd bug :/
[07:33] <mappum> What's a good way to measure CPU / RAM / network / etc usage over time for a headless server?
[07:33] <PawanPutraHanuma> Kriss3d, lol
[07:33] <woozly> I have create new user, but when I try to login to it from logon screen, it backs me to logon screen (
[07:33] <throwaway_rq> ARGH
[07:33] <throwaway_rq> vmware easy install loop - anyoen encountered it before?
[07:34] <cypr1nus> mappum, top/htop for cpu,mem, etc ?
[07:34] <Kriss3d> lotus. hm ill see in a few minuts..
[07:34] <mappum> cypr1nus: but can top give a log over time?
[07:34] <Kriss3d> gaelfx but i doubt a eel would need gloves.
[07:35] <mbalmer> haha, firefox only available in english...
[07:35] <mbalmer> all language packs disabled...
[07:35] <wookienz> gents, i am trying to run plex media server on my ubuntu 10.10 box. When i load it i get a dmesg error of: "segfault at 0 ip 00007f6bef296134 sp 00007fff3ce53800 error 4 in libc-2.11.1.so[7f6bef22d000+17a000]". where do i even begin to troubleshoot this?
[07:35] <gvandeweyer> Kriss3d: Are you upgrading using 'do-release-upgrade -d' ? The new release is not found by my 10.04 lts server yet ...
[07:35] <woozly> But if I logon as Guest - it is ok
[07:36] <ikonia> gvandeweyer: you do not use -d
[07:36] <woozly> what to remove, I neeed work account (
[07:36] <ashi> hi
[07:36] <gvandeweyer> ikonia: Then it says no new release is available
[07:36] <gvandeweyer> I must be missing something
[07:36] <cypr1nus> mappum, i suppose yes, but please find out ;]
[07:36] <ikonia> gvandeweyer: correct
[07:36] <ikonia> !upgrade > gvandeweyer
[07:37] <throwaway_rq> !upgrade > throwaway_rq
[07:37] <ashi> i have tata photon VME102 modem but it is not being detected in ubuntu...need help
[07:38] <mappum> cypr1nus: found an answer :D http://superuser.com/questions/149961/writing-a-cpu-ram-usage-log-over-a-period-of-time-to-file-on-centos
[07:38] <jesse__> Hello.  Just installed the latest Ubuntu (havent used it in a few years).  Years ago, there was a tool called "Ubuntu Tweak."  Does anyone know if this (or something like it) exists for Ubuntu 12.4?
[07:38] <PawanPutraHanuma> ashi, do u have the drivers installed for that device?
[07:38] <ikonia> jesse__: you don't need it, you can do anything you need within the ubuntu tools
[07:38] <jarco> I am willing to install the newest ubuntu. But it looks like my video card is not supported. How can I install it in fallback mode?
[07:38] <jesse__> ikonia: can i switch the maximize, minimize, close buttons to the right side of the title bar? :)
[07:39] <ashi> nope
[07:39] <ikonia> jesse__: it all works a bit different now with unity
[07:39] <ikonia> jesse__: I'd suggest trying it, seeing what you like/don't like and checking out if solutions are available
[07:39] <obakfahad> You can if you choose to remove or not use unity jesse__
[07:39] <PawanPutraHanuma> ashi, check the photon website for the relevant drivers
[07:39] <jesse__> obakgahad: i like unity, just i want to configure it a bit, if possible.  Does ubuntu tweak no longer work?
[07:39] <cypr1nus> mappum, thanks :)
[07:40] <obakfahad> Guys plz wellcome me :)
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> anyone tested gnome classic yet?
[07:40] <obakfahad> Work but right side is not possible....
[07:40] <gvandeweyer> ikonia: thanks, I'll see how that helps (it seems I need to update 10.04 completely before upgrading)
[07:40] <obakfahad> it is the concept of unity.
[07:41] <obakfahad> I really enjoying ubuntu 12.04 !!!!!!!!!1
[07:41] <jesse__> oh, i see, thanks
[07:41] <obakfahad> !!!!!
[07:41] <jarco> I am willing to install the newest ubuntu. But it looks like my video card is not supported. How can I install it in fallback mode?
[07:41] <obakfahad> :)
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> can left bar be dragged to bottom on precise?
[07:41] <ashi> they dont provide drivers,they have some instructions,here -http://www.tataphoton.com/download/user-manuals/Olive-VME102-User-Manual.pdf
[07:41] <ashi> but it dont work
[07:41] <obakfahad> lotuspsychje No .
[07:42] <kelvinella> hi, is ubuntu 12.04 faster than 11.10??
[07:42] <FourDollars> kelvinella: yes
[07:42] <obakfahad> Installation looks faster.kelvinella
[07:42] <kelvinella> not installation
[07:42] <obakfahad> And yes this is good .kelvinella
[07:42] <kelvinella> i want performance
[07:42] <Christoph_vW> gvandeweyer: 12.04 will not be offered to 10.04 LTS users yet - some blueprint states it will be offered when the first point release it out
[07:42] <obakfahad> Smooth performance.kelvinella
[07:43] <kelvinella> what about xubuntu 12.04?
[07:43] <gvandeweyer> Christoph_vW: Ah, where did you find that ?
[07:43] <jarco> How can I install ubuntu in low graphics mode if the normal way is not working?
[07:43] <obakfahad> Still dloading.
[07:43] <PawanPutraHanuma> Christoph_vW, is it?
[07:43] <obakfahad> jarco try lubuntu.
[07:43] <kelvinella> will xubuntu faster than ubuntu on netbook?
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> !info kazam
[07:44] <jarco> obakfahad: I will but I wanted to try the hud first
[07:44] <jarco> kelvinella: yes
[07:44] <gvandeweyer> Christoph_vW: First point release, as in July 2012 ?
[07:44] <obakfahad> kelvinella it should...because xfce is light.
[07:44] <Christoph_vW> "„If currently running lucid, we'll not prompt them for LTS to LTS upgrade until the point release comes out (12.04.1).“ "
[07:44] <gvandeweyer> damn, I really need some of the new functions on the production server :/
[07:44] <Christoph_vW> source: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-p-lts-upgrades
[07:45] <Christoph_vW> I upgraded my machine with "do-release-upgrade -d" even it is not recommended
[07:45] <Christoph_vW> and already found two bugs in 12.04...
[07:45] <obakfahad> Guys any suggestion what i have to install for unity ?
[07:45] <Kriss3d> Hmm im running the 11.10 with gnome3.. the anoying thing that instead of administration menu it had "others" which had all the things in it such as synaptic.. but now its back to the good old days.. so far its great
[07:45] <totesmuhgoats> kelvinella: there is an ubuntu netbook remix if i am not mistaken
[07:45] <ikonia> Christoph_vW: please don't tell people to use -d
[07:45] <ikonia> Christoph_vW: it is wrong.
[07:46] <obakfahad> totesmuhgoats isnt that old ?
[07:46] <totesmuhgoats> so how is 12.04?
[07:46] <kelvinella> ubuntu netbook remix is so old
[07:46] <jarco> I ll try again. How can I install the unity version of ubuntu in some kind of safe mode or fallback mode since the normal mode is not working?
[07:46] <gvandeweyer> ikonia: no worry, I'm not doing that on the production machine
[07:46] <kelvinella> i want ubuntu moblin remix but it is also old
[07:46] <totesmuhgoats> obakfahad: i am not an ubuntu expert to be honest
[07:46] <obakfahad> totesmuhgoats fabulous .
[07:46] <ikonia> gvandeweyer: don't do it on any machine
[07:47] <totesmuhgoats> well i have an 11.10 home server, i was thinking about updating to 12.04 since its LTS and keeping it for 2 years
[07:47] <gvandeweyer> I'm running the xubuntu 12.04 beta on my laptop, and I notice the amount of issues is still too high for a production server
[07:47] <obakfahad> totesmuhgoats to be honest me too :)
[07:47] <totesmuhgoats> wondering if it is a good idea to update now or if i should hold off
[07:47] <jpic> totesmuhgoats: i like 12.04, it seems a little fatser on my computer
[07:47] <MaximB> is it harmless to delete old kernel dirs from usr/src ?
[07:47] <uBUxUBu> 12.04 seems very nice trying to get used to it today...
[07:47] <Christoph_vW> ikonia: what would be the issue? it upgrades to dev version - but afaik it would be updated to release later then
[07:47] <obakfahad> totesmuhgoats i have no idea about that server actually.
[07:47] <jpic> MaximB: maybe you should rather remove the old kernel and headers from apt-get
[07:48] <jpic> because they take a lot of disk space
[07:48] <obakfahad> Any suggestion for unity ?
[07:48] <ikonia> Christoph_vW: well, as 12.04 is now no longer a development version.......it will upgrade to an unstable mess as there is nothing useable about 12.10
[07:48] <obakfahad> I mean i want some interesting staff at unity ....
[07:48] <obakfahad> guys ?
[07:48] <ikonia> obakfahad: what ?
[07:49] <shruggar> went to upgrade ubuntu this morning, noticed that unionfs-fuse was listed as "no longer supported". What package replaces it for unionfs functionality?
[07:49] <fidel_> abramart: "some interesting" stuff isd like asking for nothing. in case you want feedback - ask a real/more detailed question
[07:49] <Pitel> I have a big problem... most of the lenses (especially the one with apps) are empty!
[07:49] <MaximB> cool, btw why I use 3.0.12 kernel when I also got 3.0.17 installed ?
[07:49] <fidel_> erm ... obakfahad  ;)
[07:50] <obakfahad> fidel_ whats that ?
[07:51] <obakfahad> Pitel have you installed any other theme ?
[07:51] <obakfahad> fidel_ whats that ?
[07:52] <obakfahad> fidel_ whats erm?
[07:52] <Pitel> obakfahad: nope, but I just formatted and reinstalled / partition, /home is untouched, so maybe it's some messed up config somewhere
[07:52] <cemc> is there an easy way to change the font in 12.04 ?
[07:52] <Pitel> obakfahad: also, the close/minimaze/maximize buttons are on the right corner
[07:52] <robinsmidsrod> is it possible in debian-installer/preseed to use a value (like hostname) to interpolate into other variables?
[07:53] <matthewL> Upgrade failed. Retry clean install data restore.
[07:53] <obakfahad> Your home partion is messing up.Pitel.You should remove every ".*" files and keep others likeDownloads Doc,Mus<DE.....
[07:53] <steve11> Hello room, I'm trying to triple-boot my Late 2011 macbook pro with OSX, Win7 and Ubu 12.04 - everything going well except I get a fatal error that the bootloader can't be installed at the end up the Ubuntu installation
[07:54] <Pitel> obakfahad: can you be more specific? I don;t want to lose configurations of normal apps (like xchat, games, chrome, etc.)
[07:54] <steve11> I've tried pointing the installer to install grub on the / partition and tried giving it its own partition "reserved boot bios area" or something like that
[07:55] <matthewL> Clean install Ubuntu, Steve, that might work.
[07:55] <MaximB> so any issues with upgrading to the new version ?
[07:55] <steve11> matthew, do you think it'd be better to just let Ubu do its own partitioning?
[07:55] <matthewL> Yes.
[07:55] <obakfahad> Pitel keep that things but delete thegnome2 or unity or other things from home folder.....keep which files or config you need .
[07:56] <steve11> like clear the partitions i made and just point the installer at the free space? awesome thanks
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> MaximB: seems like many ppl are happy
[07:56] <steve11> matthew, will it know where to put grub?
[07:56] <The_BROS> How to make Pigin and x-chat applet in 12.04?
[07:56] <matthewL> That's what i'm doing
[07:56] <MaximB> lotuspsychje:  happy or "happy" ?
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> very happy
[07:56] <matthewL> Doesn't grub go in mbr?
[07:56] <PawanPutraHanuma> why no upgradation available in ubuntu 10.04?
[07:56] <jatt> virtualbox in 12.04 segfaults is this a known issue?
[07:57] <steve11> matthew, i think it's different for macs, they don't have the same 'bios'
[07:57] <matthewL> VB faults in 11.10, top.
[07:57] <matthewL> Too
[07:57] <burnedup> hi.
[07:57] <MaximB> when trying to upgrade it says "cannot authenticate some packages" and closes ...why ?
[07:57] <matthewL> Steve, ah
[07:57] <jatt> I had 11.10 before and vitualbox worked
[07:57] <jatt> only after upgrading to 12.04 it segfaults on my machine
[07:58] <matthewL> Maxim try without wifi.
[07:58] <burnedup> i was upgrading to ubuntu 12.04 yesterday at work. when i get back ubuntu had failed installing the new files (after downloading)
[07:58] <obakfahad> Pitel first will you test a thing ? create a new user and restart and login with that and check whether that is ok....if ok then problem is in configs or if it is not then installation prob.
[07:58] <jatt> $ virtualbox
[07:58] <jatt> Segmentation fault
[07:58] <burnedup> and i cant get öy ubuntu uo again
[07:58] <MaximB> matthewL:  it's a desktop
[07:58] <matthewL> Or downgrading additional packages.
[07:58] <Pitel> obakfahad: ok, I guess I should do the cleanup without gnome running anyway
[07:58] <MaximB> nvm worked at second try
[07:58] <MaximB> upgradeing
[07:58] <MaximB> holding fingers
[07:59] <matthewL> Clean install completed successfully.
[07:59] <burnedup> i'm having exactly this problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125649/reboot-during-update-glibc-error
[08:00] <obakfahad> empathy with irc is great in 12.04
[08:00] <matthewL> First boot a success.
[08:01] <burnedup> nobody?
[08:01] <Ben64> is there an easy way to remove unity and effects on 12.04 yet?
[08:02] <hakim> bonjour
[08:02] <matthewL> Booty to Ubuntu 2d at login,64.
[08:02] <pndemc_> !gnome
[08:02] <pndemc_> !notunity
[08:02] <Ben64> i'll have to try that
[08:03] <minimec> Ben64: You can install the gnome environment. It will give you gnome3, gnome classic and gnome classic without compiz effects as WindowManager options.
[08:05] <throwaway_rq> anyone using gnome-session-fallback and alt-tab not working?
[08:05] <matthewL> Installing Ubuntu a success!
[08:05] <throwaway_rq> seems like it's a common bug now
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> minimec: is gnome classic default without installing gnome shell?
[08:08] <feisar> just to confirm: If I have been running 12.04 beta I just need to run 'apt-get update' 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[08:08] <popey> feisar: yes
[08:08] <feisar> then I have 12.04 LTS
[08:08] <popey> feisar: or use update manager
[08:08] <minimec> lotuspsychje: Non of them will be default. Until you switch from unity to another Window Manager in lightdm.
[08:08] <feisar> popey: thanks (I only have terminal as it's a server)
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> minimec: thats what i mean, do you have the option to login gnome classic by default, or you need to install first?
[08:09] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys. After upgrading from Oneiric to Precise, none of the default keyboard shortcuts work anymore (e.g. terminal -> CTRL+ALT+T, no longer works)
[08:09] <Mayazcherquoi> Custom works fine, though.
[08:10] <jatt> strace virtualbox says:
Effective UID is not root (euid=1000 egid=1000 uid=1000 gid=1000) (rc=-10)</b><br/><br/>Please try reinstalling VirtualBox.</html>
[08:10] <minimec> lotuspsychje: If you install the gnome environment (or gnome-panel), you will have that option in lightdm.
[08:10] <throwaway_rq> Mayazcherquoi: even alt-tab doesnt work
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> minimec: ok tnx
[08:10] <Mayazcherquoi> Alt+Tab works fine.
[08:11] <throwaway_rq> Mayazcherquoi: odd, not in my case.  alt+` doesn't either in gnome-terminal
[08:12] <Mayazcherquoi> throwaway_rq: Yeah, no, ALT+Tab works fine for me
[08:12] <jesse__> Does anyone know where I can download themes for unity (im using 12.4) ?
[08:13] <Boffy> hello.... i am doing upgrade at the moment. is it possible to upgrade form 11.04 directly to 12.04 using the 12.04 live cd?
[08:13] <auronandace> Boffy: no
[08:13] <feisar> Boffy: you need to use the alternate CDs and you can only go up 1 version at a time
[08:14] <auronandace> Boffy: you can upgrade from one to the next or from one lts to the next
[08:14] <popey> feisar: not true
[08:14] <Kireji> can I run a storage service on my (static IP, colod) ubuntu box that has Dropbox-like sync services with mac and windows clients?
[08:14] <feisar> oh sorry
[08:14] <popey> Boffy: you _can_ install over the top and keep your data if you want to?
[08:14] <Kireji> kind of like Ubuntu One, but served from my machine?
[08:15] <popey> Boffy: if you do an install over the top and choose manual partitioing and _do_ _not_ format the root partition it will install over the top and keep whatever was in /home
[08:15] <llutz> Kireji: why not,use stuff like this http://owncloud.org/
[08:15] <auronandace> popey: and break your system
[08:16] <Boffy> yeah that's what i am worried.
[08:16] <Boffy> i know i should be able to use liveUSB to go form 11.10 to 12.04
[08:16] <auronandace> Boffy: it really is a lot easier just clean installing
[08:16] <Boffy> at leats that would save soem downloading. if only i kept the 11.10 on the USB key before, but instea di erased it to give 12.04 a try and see if all works
[08:17] <Engin> i'm sending valid syslog udp packets to server but can't see them in /var/syslog, any common pitfalls ?
[08:17] <Boffy> the problem is that i have 25GB data to backup if i do clean install
[08:17] <Chousuke> if you really must keep /home you can install on the unformatted partition, but remove all directories except /home from it before
[08:17] <Chousuke> but backing up home is easier
[08:17] <auronandace> Boffy: then back it up
[08:17] <Boffy> not to meniton i will have to set it all up again. i have plenty programmes that are not in official repositories and i need them
[08:18] <never2far> hello ...how can i add a pogram to startup from command shell ? ...i have tried using rcconf but that program shows some programs as they are not at startup but they are already started
[08:18] <r4y> If my router is set to hidden, how do I connect Ubuntu 12.04 to it?
[08:18] <auronandace> Boffy: i keep what i need on a seperate storage partition and backup to an external harddrive, clean installs are a breeze
[08:18] <XDESIGN> i need install nautilus-gksu on ubuntu 12.04
[08:18] <jesse__> Hello.  The pink colors in the "Ambiance" theme are making me feel less manly.  Does anyone know where I can download additional themes for unity? I'm using 1.4
[08:18] <Engin> a tcpdump on server succesfully sees and parses the packets... but the server does not log the syslog messages in /var/log/syslog
[08:18] <Marzata> no skype via software center in 12.04?
[08:18] <auronandace> !skype | Marzata
[08:19] <pndemc_> !notunity
[08:19] <XDESIGN> x@x:~$ sudo apt-get install nautilus-gksu
[08:19] <XDESIGN> Reading package lists... Done
[08:19] <XDESIGN> Building dependency tree
[08:19] <XDESIGN> Reading state information... Done
[08:19] <XDESIGN> E: Unable to locate package nautilus-gksu
[08:19] <FloodBot1> XDESIGN: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:19] <XDESIGN> x@x:~$
[08:19] <Engin> too much population... this channel can't be useful :/
[08:19] <XDESIGN> sorry
[08:20] <feisar> when running an Ubuntu server what's the official way to get notified when critical updates and/or restarts are needed?
[08:20] <XDESIGN> help pls how to install nautilus-gksu
[08:20] <XDESIGN> ?
[08:21] <popey> XDESIGN: looks like that's not in the repository anymore
[08:21] <XDESIGN> a nieed repo
[08:21] <auronandace> XDESIGN: what? can't you use the command: gksudo nautilus?
[08:21] <enzotib> hi, in 12.04, lxterminal, if I hit Shift-Ctrl-C to copy a text, is also sends an interrupt, how to fix?
[08:21] <XDESIGN> auronandace ok
[08:21] <Marzata> auronandace: thanks, but the partners are already added
[08:21] <Marzata> auronandace: and still no skype in the software senter
[08:21] <erik32533> hi when will next version of ubuntu be out
[08:22] <popey> erik32533: october
[08:22] <auronandace> Marzata: odd, sorry i can't help, i don't use skype
[08:22] <erik32533> i see the desktop interface being changed
[08:23] <auronandace> erik32533: they are time based: 12.10 = 2012, 10th month
[08:23] <Boffy> on the upgrade... if i then move the home folder back will i keep the all settigns as well? i am thinking about moving it all to another disk and then back after fresh install since it realyl will be faster...
[08:23] <Boffy> 2.5hours for only one upgrade is not worth it. especially casuse there are 2 more to do.
[08:23] <erik32533> i  mean the desktop will look totally different
[08:24] <XDESIGN> ubuntu best linux of al time
[08:24] <XDESIGN> :)
[08:24] <XDESIGN> all*
[08:25] <sk1special> traffic died down a little here? my issue is when i have my workstations view open..while i can use each one and go to them i can not drag and drop windows between them
[08:26] <sk1special> i also get this message -  Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0" when i open any program that does seomthing ( ie xchat ) and all my window borders look like windows 98..
[08:27] <pratz> hey guys
[08:28] <pratz> ever happy about ubuntu 12.04
[08:28] <zykes-_> Why isn't there a libreadline5-dev package ?
[08:28] <Flywater> how about ubuntu-tweak
[08:28] <Ben64> i have 12.04 on my laptop, and it's not getting the correct gateway from dhcp
[08:29] <enzotib> in 12.04, lxterminal, if I hit Shift-Ctrl-C to copy a text, is also sends an interrupt, someone can confirm? and how to fix?
[08:30] <Flywater> how about ubuntu-tweak
[08:30] <popey> enzotib: confirmed
[08:31] <enzotib> popey, thanks, but have you any idea on how to look for a solution?
[08:31] <ikonia> enzotib: what's intr set to ?
[08:31] <sk1special> @enzotib. why hit shift?
[08:31] <enzotib> ikonia, intr = ^C;
[08:32] <popey> enzotib: known bug 971918
[08:32] <enzotib> oh, it is there!
[08:32] <ikonia> popey: is it actually a bug though as ^C should be interupt
[08:32] <enzotib> sk1special, because I want to copy, not interrupt
[08:32] <popey> its not ctrl+c
[08:32] <ikonia> that's correct/expected behaviour
[08:32] <popey> it's shift+ctrl+c
[08:32] <popey> works in gnome terminal
[08:32] <ikonia> popey: yes, but that is also ^C
[08:33] <popey> no, it isnt
[08:33] <ikonia> shift shouldn't change that
[08:33] <popey> shift is a modifier
[08:33] <jorn> hey, wasn't there a virtual package in ubuntu which installed a lot of the standard stuff for developers? like automake, autoconf, gcc, git, svn, ...?
[08:33] <popey> has worked for ~years in gnome terminal
[08:33] <sk1special> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[08:33] <popey> jorn: build-essential ?
[08:33] <sk1special> im new to linux..and thats for a older vs..but most of them work fine for me
[08:34] <ikonia> popey: I'm testing it on a Fedora 16 box now with gnome terminal and a Solaris 10 xterm and gnome terminal and ctrl+shift+c is giving me ^C
[08:34] <popey> they are broken then ☺
[08:34] <ikonia> popey: what distro/release did it used to work on with gnome terminal ?
[08:34] <jorn> popey: the description of that package syas i don't need it if i don't develop debian packages
[08:34] <jorn> but i think it was called something like that
[08:34] <popey> ikonia: ubuntu, for numerous releases
[08:34] <ikonia> popey: 10.04 a safe bet ?
[08:35] <popey> ikonia: i haven't used 10.04 for some time, maybe
[08:35] <richardlxc> how to convert  two pictures  in linux?
[08:35] <richardlxc> into one picture
[08:35] <ikonia> popey: any idea on one you can say "yup worked in that one"
[08:35] <ikonia> (just so I don't have to grab 5 versions looking for it)
[08:35] <enzotib> ikonia, I think if the windows use a shortcut for its working, it should not pass that to the terminal driver
[08:35] <popey> I'll snag 10.04
[08:35] <HaltingState> how do I set LC_COLLATE for whole system?
[08:35] <ikonia> enzotib: windows behaviour has no relevence to linux
[08:36] <ikonia> popey: don't worry, I'll get it, I was just seeing if you had an idea from memory for one that actually worked
[08:36] <matthewL> So happy with my new up to date Ubuntu!!
[08:36] <veleno> hello. how do I modify /etc/sudoers on a batch of 60 machines without logging into each one and 'sudo visudo'ing for all of them ?
[08:36] <enzotib> ikonia, I don't mean MS Win, I mean the lxterminal window
[08:36] <Ben64> how can i upgrade 12.04 from cd
[08:37] <ikonia> veleno: get a known working sudoers file and just copy it into place on the other machines
[08:37] <popey> ikonia: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=600876 its been around for _years_
[08:37] <Ben64> one of my systems currently has 12.04 beta, and i have the cd, would like to avoid downloading 400MB that isn't necessary
[08:37] <Pitel> how can I specify font antialiasing?
[08:37] <ikonia> Ben64: you can only use the alternative CD
[08:37] <ikonia> popey: now I'm super curious what ubuntu version had this working
[08:37] <Ben64> ikonia: really? it opens synaptic for me when i put the cd in
[08:38] <ikonia> Ben64: the upgrade process can only use the alternative CD unless something has changed in 12.04
[08:38] <CelticTurnip> anyone got a link to upgrading the beta to the release... I'm on ubuntu.com and for the life of me I can't see anything
[08:38] <veleno> ikonia: i tried that, but i got a permission denied, despite the user doing it is a sudoer
[08:38] <ikonia> veleno: then that user doesn't have permissions
[08:38] <Ben64> CelticTurnip: the update manager should give you the updates to the final version
[08:39] <Ub_user> Hi all
[08:39] <Ub_user> someone use postfix with saslauthd under ubuntu 10.04?
[08:39] <CelticTurnip> Ben64: no problem, I updated yesterday and it says there are no updates today... I thought there would be some kind of update... oh well :)
[08:39] <cadeskywalker> [Definition]
[08:39] <cadeskywalker> failregex = ^<HOST> -.*"GET \/w00tw00t\.at\.ISC\.SANS\.DFind\:\).*".*
[08:40] <cadeskywalker> oups sorry wrong terminal
[08:40] <bjoern_> Hello, how can one check if a laptop has Nvidia Optimus? Ubuntu 12.04, trying to troubleshoot display problem.
[08:40] <Ub_user> Hi all! Does someone use saslauthd under ubuntu 10.04?
[08:41] <ozzy> hello
[08:41] <ozzy> i need help with usb live ubuntu
[08:41] <ozzy> why cant i put a persistent file bigger than 4 gb?
[08:42] <chmouel> Hey guys, I am having a problem with my Xorg crashing http://pastebin.com/u4vbpYFB with the intel_drv since the upgrade, is that a known issue ?
[08:42] <ikonia> ozzy: is your persistant file system fat ?
[08:42] <timing> Hi! How do I get that bar back which displays all the windows on the current workspace?
[08:42] <fishcooker> happy birthday PP
[08:42] <timing> so I can click on it an stuff
[08:42] <ozzy> i think so
[08:42] <ikonia> ozzy: it won't support a file bigger than 4GB then
[08:42] <ozzy> so i format to ntfs?
[08:43] <ikonia> ozzy: why not use ext which is a linux supported file system
[08:43] <ozzy> i need to format it from windows
[08:43] <osiris> upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04, on reboot does not list new kernel, also says the disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. can anyone help ?
[08:44] <ikonia> ozzy: I'd not advise using NTFS, I don't actually think (but don't know) it will work
[08:44] <ozzy> will exfat work?
[08:44] <eather> ozzy: second ikonia, stick with fat32 if at all possible
[08:44] <ikonia> ozzy: don't think so
[08:44] <ikonia> still limited to 4GB
[08:45] <eather> then you need a puppy live cd with gparted, that will format yr flash drive to whatever you choose :)
[08:46] <ikonia> you can format it from the ubuntu live CD
[08:46] <ikonia> no need for puppy
[08:46] <eather> right
[08:46] <ozzy> can formatting my usb drive to ext brake it or make it unaccesable by win?
[08:46] <ikonia> ozzy: yes, it won't be usable by windows, but it certainly won't break it
[08:46] <eather> unreadable to win, but I have heard there is a way around that
[08:47] <eather> ...:D
[08:47] <linux> dfds
[08:47] <eather> thank you
[08:47] <linux> 什么阿
[08:48] <linux> where am i?
[08:48] <ikonia> linux: in an ubuntu support IRC chat channel
[08:49] <Pitel> how can I change font antialiasing? The defaults looks ugly. :(
[08:49] <sk1special> i used my usb drive to test/then install 12.04.. and my windows laptop still picks it up fine?
[08:49] <gaelfx> !zh | linux
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> sk1special  the grub menu should show both systems
[08:50] <fishcooker> where can i see the list of bug of PP?
[08:50] <osiris> anyone have success upgrading from LTS to LTS ?
[08:50] <fishcooker> i don't try that on my production box osiris
[08:50] <fishcooker> 10.04 will be remain in 10.04
[08:50] <Ben64> osiris: haven't tried yet, going to backup my partition beforehand
[08:50] <MonkeyDust> osiris  finished succesfully here
[08:50] <osiris> problems here
[08:50] <sk1special> yeah it does. i ment cus they were talking about it being unreadable on a seperate windows machine..and mine reads it fine
[08:50] <fishcooker> congratz monkeydost
[08:50] <fishcooker> monkeydust
[08:51] <Ben64> i haven't done a fresh install since Edgy Eft
[08:51] <fishcooker> congrat
[08:51] <fishcooker> z
[08:51] <MonkeyDust> fishcooker  having issues upgrading?
[08:51] <fishcooker> big applause for ben64
[08:51] <fishcooker> :D
[08:51] <fishcooker> i haven't tried it monkeydust
[08:51] <osiris> well for starters new kernel is not showing in grub
[08:51] <sk1special> i need help fixing my work station view tho..i can switch between them and go to them all. but i can not drag and drop between them
[08:52] <Ben64> osiris: can you choose an old one?
[08:52] <oal> Anyone else having problems with the mouse cursor not moving between screens in 12.04? Nvidia drivers
[08:52] <osiris> i can, but it drops to "the disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present"
[08:52] <linux> join #ubuntu-cn
[08:53] <halfie> hi, i have installed ubuntu 12.04 but I can't hear any sound on headphones connected to Sound Blaster XFI sound card. Any tips to get sound working?
[08:53] <Ben64> osiris: strange... do you have any weird drive setup going? like raid or something?
[08:53] <sk1special> @oal. my my mouse gets stuckish between screens..but it switches over
[08:53] <sk1special> slike hitting a speed bump
[08:54] <osiris> nope. old 2 ghz celery, 2 gigs of ram, and a couple of ide drives
[08:54] <oal> sk1special: yup, I noticed that as well. Very annoying!
[08:54] <Ben64> osiris: have you tried popping in a live cd and checking whats going on?
[08:54] <gaelfx> hahaha, celery. I like. I'm gonna borrow that if you haven't TMed it
[08:54] <stimpie> sk1special, its the resistance used to show the launcher
[08:55] <osiris> well from the recovery prompt it appears the data is safe, although mounted read-only. im pretty sure i could live rescue it with a usb drive, but quite frankly i have too much data on the drive to move it all
[08:55] <sk1special> ah. my drivers are being retarted tho. depending on my options/driver pick/set up. i can get one of my screens to work perfect..but not see the second.
[08:55] <sk1special> or get both screens to work..but it has that windows 98 look to menus and cant drag and drop between workstations..
[08:56] <sk1special> or i can get one screen to work and look normal..and the other to be a solid grey light
[08:56] <Ben64> osiris: i meant more along the lines of making sure fstab and grub options are set to load the correct partition
[08:56] <bhaisahab> hey ubuntu pkg maintainers sasl broke my mail server https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cyrus-sasl2/+bug/875440
[08:56] <sk1special> also. how do i red text people?
[08:56] <bhaisahab> any updates on that
[08:56] <osiris> havent been that far yet, as i fear the cd drives are........ old
[08:56] <osiris> the uuid's in fstab appear right
[08:57] <vp18> has anyone tried cinnamon 1.4
[08:57] <bhaisahab> what would you say I use dovecot for sasl instead of cyrus? has anyone done that
[08:57] <gaelfx> I'm trying to connect to an NFS share I set up on another computer in my network, but the connection always times out, both comps are running 12.04, can someone help me figure this out?
[08:58] <halfie> gaelfx: are NFS ports open or is the firewall inactive?
[08:58] <gaelfx> halfie: good thought, I'll check
[08:58] <fishcooker> monkeydust ben64 osiris,, where could i see the list of bug on ubuntu?
[08:59] <halfie> gaelfx: first try getting your setup running with no firewall (iptables -F)
[08:59] <MonkeyDust> !tab| fishcooker
[08:59] <Starminn> I have just installed Ubuntu 12.04, and after trying to place all of my old fonts into the new install, I am only getting little squares where letters should be. Any ideas?  (On a separate computer currently to type this)
[09:00] <bhaisahab> helpl  heer,
[09:00] <bhaisahab> help here
[09:00] <pschweitzer> Hi, when will the 12.04LTS will be marked as LTS to allow safe upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04 using do-release-upgrade?
[09:00] <pschweitzer> (to prevent using the --devel flag)
[09:01] <bluefrog> Starminn, have you rebuilt the fonts cache?
[09:01] <bhaisahab> it is now
[09:01] <bhaisahab> do it now!
[09:01] <vincent> ./quit
[09:01] <bhaisahab> bluefrog: do it
[09:01] <gaelfx> halfie: hm, I don't see any ports being forwarded on my router RE NFS, how can I check if the NFS is actually running on the server?
[09:01] <Starminn> bluefrog: I've not heard of this ever before, so probably not. :)
[09:01] <sk1special> @fishcooker https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu
[09:01] <bluefrog> Starminn, try   sudo fc-cache -f -v
[09:01] <bhaisahab> hey anyone about postfix, sasl2 authentication bug for email server?
[09:01] <Hardcorefrank> just poping in here because I normally do after a ubuntu release to see what you guys think here
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> the greatest screencast recorder is nog in official repos: kazam
[09:02] <luca__> salve io ho un problema con plymouth manager
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> !info kazam
[09:02] <osiris> gaelfx: you can netstat -a and look for nfs running on the server side
[09:02] <halfie> gaelfx: netstat -nltp should show portmap and some rpc process. though there is a better way which i forgot
[09:02] <Starminn> bluefrog: It has finished running. I suppose a restart would be in order to be most effective?
[09:02] <MonkeyDust> !es| luca__
[09:02] <halfie> gaelfx: got it, run "rpcinfo -p"
[09:02] <luca__> ho cliccato sul tasto compatibilità con burg e da allora non si avvia più
[09:02] <bluefrog> Starminn, not that I am aware of
[09:02] <gaelfx> halfie: osiris I'll try both in a minute
[09:02] <gaelfx> *all three
[09:03] <bluefrog> Starminn, log out/in at grand maximum
[09:03] <goddard> how can i clear space from my boot partition?
[09:03] <bluefrog> goddard, uninstall old kernels
[09:03] <ikonia> goddard: remove what you don't need
[09:03] <luca__> hi i have a problem with plymouth manager
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> !info activity-log-manager
[09:04] <goddard> bluefrog: is there a way i can do that in the terminal?
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> nice
[09:04] <luca__> this program doesn't work on my pc because i clicked on compatibility with burg
[09:04] <Starminn> bluefrog: Did a full restart (I know it's overkill on Linux, but I figure it's a sure-fire way, nonetheless to test if something got fixed) and am experiencing the same problem.
[09:04] <bluefrog> goddard, don't understand
[09:05] <goddard> nvm
[09:05] <luca__> someone has an idea?
[09:05] <nitzs> why is there such a big gap between the top bar and the notification popups?
[09:05] <gaelfx> halfie: actually, I just noticed transmission's port doesn't seem to be automatically forwarding either, which seems rather strange
[09:05] <onoez_omg> hey guys, how may i move the applents into 12.04' gnome classic?
[09:06] <Starminn> bluefrog: The plain shell (CTRL+ALT+F1->F6) displays fine, though, so it may just be an Ubuntu font problem. Is there a sane way to change the font on 12.04 built-in? (i.e. Other than GNOME's "Advanced Settings"?)
[09:06] <bluefrog> goddard, sry was thinking about another problem.  apt-get purge linux-image then tab to find what's installed
[09:06] <gaelfx> onoez_omg: if you mean like Gnome 2, I think your best shot is to use MATE
[09:06] <Stuu> Hey guys
[09:06] <nitzs> Starminn: you might have a look at gconf-editor
[09:07] <sk1special> @nitzs.. was just reading the billionaire guys blog posts..and he was talking about hating how they covered each other up when you were trying to do something..so maybe ?
[09:07]  * Starminn will be right back
[09:07] <fishcooker> MonkeyDust: thankyou it work on pidgin
[09:07] <onoez_omg> gaelfx, it is gnome 3 with fallback to classic view, anyway thx, but what is MATE?
[09:07] <goddard> bluefrog: can i just do apt-get remove and then the image name
[09:08] <goddard> bluefrog: is that safe?
[09:08] <fishcooker> thanks sk1special
[09:08] <gaelfx> onoez_omg: linux mint's fork of gnome 2
[09:08] <bluefrog> goddard, if you want. safe? don't understand