[02:29] <jwyer> I'm trying to create an emulator but it won't create it
[08:06] <dholbach> good morning
[08:43] <zbenjamin> nik90: ping, you here?
[08:45] <nik90> zbenjamin: pong
[08:45] <zbenjamin> nik90: hey how do you make sure your app loads the right localization files?
[08:46] <nik90> zbenjamin: I just update the .pot file and launchpad builds it to generate po files. That gets loaded correctly by unity8?
[08:47] <zbenjamin> nik90: ah of course clock is a default app... i wonder where to put the pot files if you are coming from a normal click package
[08:48] <nik90> zbenjamin: I don't think that matters. As long as the po files are installed in the correct directory, the system should pick it up.
[08:48] <nik90> let me check
[08:50] <nik90> zbenjamin: check out https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~verzegnassi-stefano/quick-memo/trunk/view/head:/po/CMakeLists.txt its a 3rd party app making use of launchpad translations
[08:50] <zbenjamin> nik90: awesome thx
[08:51] <zbenjamin> liuxg: ^^^^
[08:52] <liuxg> zbenjamin, hi, I just tried the scope template. it seems that it is working. for the QML one, it is not working :)
[08:53] <rpadovani> davidcalle, hey :-) Sorry to bother you again, could you ping me when you have 10 minutes? I have a couple of questions :-)
[08:53] <mihir> nik90: i'll try to talk to renetu
[08:54] <zbenjamin> liuxg: did you try to "run cmake" ?
[08:55] <liuxg> zbenjamin, there is a little problem with the scope localization, the scope's name is not there in the "pot" file
[08:56] <liuxg> zbenjamin, yes, I did it. but the UI is still English :(
[08:57] <zbenjamin> liuxg: i might need to test myself
[08:59] <davidcalle> rpadovani, pong, no worries :)
[08:59] <liuxg> zbenjamin, OK. thanks! if you have any update, please let me know.
[09:00] <liuxg> zbenjamin, it would be good to have the readme file there in the templates introducing the steps to do.
[09:00] <zbenjamin> liuxg: actually the pot files should be picked up automatically on the next cmake run
[09:00] <rpadovani> davidcalle, first answer it's easy :-) How could I do a query without parameter? e.g: api.com/QUERY? No ?, no =, only the query
[09:00] <rpadovani> *first question
[09:01] <liuxg> zbenjamin, the scope is some sort of working. However, the title is not translated. I think this could be fixed. Last time, I talked to pete-wood in DC, and he said that he would do that.
[09:02] <zbenjamin> liuxg: then you should ask him :)
[09:02] <zbenjamin> liuxg: thats a minor issue i think he will do it when he has time
[09:02] <liuxg> zbenjamin, he seems not online these days. For the  QML template, please help to take a look at it.
[09:06] <davidcalle> rpadovani, if it's with the template get() function, just use an empty dict where you would have your parameters.
[09:07] <rpadovani> davidcalle, yap, with get, so could I use something like this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9054369/
[09:10] <davidcalle> rpadovani, ah, I see what you mean. No, it would be get( {query}, {{"format", "json"}, ... , since the "query" is just a part of your path.
[09:11] <mihir> hi popey rpadovani
[09:12] <rpadovani> davidcalle, ah, right, easy :D Thanks! Second question: how do I install the scope on the phone? I did the click package with click build ., then I pushed it on the phone and used pkcon install-local, but it appears nowhere... What's wrong?
[09:12] <mihir> popey: rpadovani could you guys try to evaluate this , http://mathjs.org/.
[09:12] <rpadovani> hi mihir :-) I'll take a look, thanks!
[09:12] <mihir> rpadovani: sure , thanks , it is easy just evaluate the expression
[09:13] <davidcalle> rpadovani, hmm, try "restart scope-registry", that could help (but shouldn't be necessary...), optionally, gimme a click, I want to try it ;)
[09:14] <rpadovani> mihir, it requires Node.js, I think it's better to find something that uses only plain javascript
[09:17] <mihir> rpadovani: it is available as normal javascript as well http://mathjs.org/docs/getting_started.html
[09:17] <mihir> rpadovani: http://mathjs.org/js/lib/math.js
[09:18] <mihir> rpadovani: I guess it should work, i might be incorrect.
[09:20] <rpadovani> mihir, oh, wow, could work, I'll take a look in next days, thanks!
[09:20] <mihir> rpadovani: no issues...if this works it'll makes our life easy i believe we can pass expression directly to the library.
[09:20] <rpadovani> davidcalle, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByIeGH9eQ4QoUUwtbEdQSzRQS2s/view?usp=sharing thanks :-)
[09:24] <kalikiana> nik90: can you review this doc fixing branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~kalikiana/u1db-qt/qmlDocs/+merge/208818 note the recent failure is from an old revision
[09:25] <nik90> kalikiana: can you provide me with instructions on building and testing the documentation...I can then see if the docs have been generated properly
[09:28] <kalikiana> hmmmm this has the docs but never merged https://code.launchpad.net/~kalikiana/u1db-qt/hackingDocs/+merge/205426
[09:28] <kalikiana> need to get this landed
[09:28] <kalikiana> nik90: easiest is to build it with -DBUILD_DOCS=ON
[09:28] <kalikiana> it's regular cmake
[09:28] <nik90> kalikiana: ack
[09:48] <davidcalle> rpadovani, do you see "scoperegistry: could not open Click installation directory, ignoring Click scopes" in .cache/upstart/scope-registry.log?
[09:49] <rpadovani> davidcalle, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9054648/
[09:52] <davidcalle> rpadovani, there is apparently a path issue here : "/home/phablet/.local/share/unity-scopes//com" . I have that for another scope (from the store).
[09:52] <davidcalle> rpadovani, I'll ping you a bit later when I have a solution
[09:52] <rpadovani> davidcalle, thanks :-) If you need it, the source is here: https://github.com/rpadovani/discerning-duck
[10:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Home-Made Bread Day! :-D
[10:04] <davidcalle> rpadovani, in your main cmake file, change (line 57) : set(SCOPE_INSTALL_DIR "/discerningduck") to set(SCOPE_INSTALL_DIR "discerningduck")
[10:16] <rpadovani> davidcalle, I have the same error
[10:16] <davidcalle> rpadovani, ok, that wasn't it then. Do you have scopes installed from the store?
[10:17] <rpadovani> davidcalle, nope, I have only the standard one
[10:20] <rpadovani> davidcalle, I installed untapped and works well
[10:23] <davidcalle> rpadovani, try installing the ssbscope, and see if you are stil able to access other click scopes (untapped, for example)
[10:26] <rpadovani> davidcalle, yes, I'm able to use other scopes, but there isn't ssbscope
[10:27] <davidcalle> rpadovani, then restart scope-registry. When I install this scope, all others scopes installed via click disappear, this could be related to your issue, somehow.
[10:30] <rpadovani> davidcalle, now I don't have neither sbbscope and untapped
[10:30] <rpadovani> no related messages log
[10:34] <kalikiana> are you taking care of this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1342031
[10:34] <davidcalle> rpadovani, ok, so this is one bug, that could be related to yours. Could you please : reverse the change from earlier in cmake, remove that faulty ssbscope scope and yours (if it's still installed), with "click unregister" . Install yours again with pkcon. Then rm ~/.cache/upstart/scope-registry.log and restart scope-registry.
[10:35] <davidcalle> revert*
[10:41] <rpadovani> davidcalle, same error as before
[10:42] <davidcalle> rpadovani, ok. A few questions : are you on 14.04 or 14.10? Do you build clicks with the Publish page of QtCreator?
[10:43] <rpadovani> davidcalle, 14.10, I use click build . in the root of the project
[10:44] <rpadovani> davidcalle, qtcreator says Error information on Publish page
[10:45] <davidcalle> rpadovani, when you press "Create and validate  Click package", any specific error?
[10:46] <rpadovani> davidcalle, it's deactivated
[10:47] <vitimiti> My "Create and validate Click package" button is always greyed out, so I can't use it. I can only use the "Validate existing Click package" button (14.10)
[10:49] <davidcalle> rpadovani, is the phone kit selected in the panel above the Run button in the left
[10:50] <vitimiti> Wow, davidcalle, now I feel stupid, now it's activated, you fixed my brain
[10:51] <rpadovani> davidcalle, when I add phone kit and try to build it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9055193/
[10:52] <rpadovani> but the button is activated, I'm running it
[10:53] <davidcalle> rpadovani, when I build the package this way and install it on the phone (either by clicking Install on device, or by pushing the click and using pkcon), your scope works fine on the device.
[10:53] <rpadovani> davidcalle, oh, wow, thanks :-)
[10:54] <rpadovani> it's still building on my netbook
[10:55] <davidcalle> rpadovani, which means your setup has an issue. You can try : pick the right kit and do "Build" -> "Run CMake", then try again what you just did. Or "Tools" -> "Options" -> "Ubuntu" -> "Update" the Armhf kit.
[10:56] <rpadovani> davidcalle, it works \o/ /o\ Remeber me to buy you a lot of beers next time we see :D
[10:56] <davidcalle> :D
[11:07] <vitimiti> Hum, when creating an armhf emulator, the emulator that appears in QtCreator is called "cat:" (while I called it "emulator") and can't be started or deleted due to that. Where can I find the file that has its name so as to change it for it to work?
[11:10] <davidcalle> vitimiti, huh, zbenjamin, maybe you can help? ^
[11:11] <vitimiti> I see that it's looking for ~/.local/share/ubuntu-emulator/emulator/.device and .device has not been created automatically, either, apart from receiving the error chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/sh’: Exec format error
[11:12] <davidcalle> vitimiti, do you see the emulator if you run "ubuntu-emulator list" ?
[11:12] <vitimiti> davidcalle, yes, it appears there
[11:13] <vitimiti> I just issued a touch .device in the folder to try and see and now the name of the emulator changed in QtCreator
[11:13] <vitimiti> emulator,arch=
[11:14] <vitimiti> So I suppose the problem is the .device file, if I could find an example to create it manually since it's failing to do it automatically?
[11:17] <davidcalle> vitimiti, this file just contains the arch name, like "i386" or "armhf"
[11:17] <vitimiti> I'll try to add it, then
[11:19] <davidcalle> vitimiti, if the emulator creation failed at some point (which would explain your issues), I'm not sure that will help. You should probably "ubuntu-emulator destroy <name>" this one and create a new one.
[11:19] <vitimiti> Alright, now it sees the emulator and its architecture, identifying the correct kit on its own. It seems that the armhf emulator didn't create the .device and that was the problem, the i386 emulator didn't go that way
[11:19] <davidcalle> vitimiti, ok, I'll try to reproduce
[11:20] <vitimiti> Thanks, davidcalle, do you need versions of packages? (using proposed updates)
[11:21] <davidcalle> vitimiti, which channel did you pick for the emulator creation? (devel, devel-proposed, stable, etc.)
[11:21] <vitimiti> davidcalle, devel
[11:22] <vitimiti> I have deleted both emulators and am creating them again in case I can find something else that I can report, with more data
[11:26] <davidcalle> vitimiti, thanks :p
[11:26] <davidcalle> :)*
[11:26] <vitimiti> No prob :D
[11:26] <vitimiti> Thanks to you
[11:30] <vitimiti> davidcalle, I have another thing, the armhf only created the sdcard.img and ubuntu-system.img files, while I just have seen the i386 has created more. When I create again the armhf emulator I'll say if it repeats the errors
[11:49] <vitimiti> davidcalle, this is all I can find, and it happens every time. Do you think that with the versions of the packages it will be enough to report? http://paste.ubuntu.com/9055706/
[11:53] <davidcalle> sergiusens_, ^
[11:54] <davidcalle> vitimiti, sergiusens_ should be able to help you more than I can, but yes, you should probably file a bug with these info, here : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch
[11:55] <vitimiti> davidcalle, will do
[11:55] <davidcalle> vitimiti, thanks!
[11:55] <vitimiti> sergiusens_, the armhf emulator is giving me problems as explained in my paste
[11:59] <sergiusens_> vitimiti: what paste? what system? what version of ubuntu-emulator? what graphics card?
[12:00] <vitimiti> sergiusens_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9055706/ | Ubuntu 14.10 (proposed updates activated), armhf devel emulator, ATI HD 6320 card
[12:02] <vitimiti> sergiusens_, using the FOSS drivers, btw
[12:03] <sergiusens_> vitimiti: I don't use the sdk though; I just call 'sudo ubuntu-emulator create --arch i386 myi386'
[12:03] <sergiusens_> vitimiti: where does this come from? chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/sh’: Exec format error
[12:04] <vitimiti> sergiusens_, I will try the command now. That comes from the Ubuntu SDK log in the Devices tab
[12:05] <sergiusens_> vitimiti: I see what's going on... but can you create an x86 one?
[12:05] <vitimiti> sergiusens_, yes, and it works properly
[12:05] <sergiusens_> vitimiti: ok, just log a bug for the other one
[12:05] <vitimiti> sergiusens_, but, if I create the armhf one after it, the i386 one will not appear in the SDK either
[12:06] <vitimiti> I will try the command to see if it's an SDK problem or an ubuntu-emulator problem though
[12:06] <sergiusens_> vitimiti: that is very likely an sdk problem
[12:07] <vitimiti> sergiusens_, I just issued the command, as soon as it finishes and I see what happens I'll report
[12:07] <vitimiti> sergiusens_, if the ubuntu-emulator command works should I issue the bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch or in the ubuntu-sdk project?
[12:08] <sergiusens_> vitimiti: sdk
[12:08] <vitimiti> sergiusens_, thanks, will do
[12:09] <zbenjamin> vitimiti: seems there went something wrong with the detection on your system
[12:09] <sergiusens_> vitimiti: I'll wait for that other bug report :-)
[12:09] <zbenjamin> vitimiti: you can try to refresh the device list
[12:09] <vitimiti> zbenjamin, refreshing the device list does not work
[12:10] <zbenjamin> vitimiti: seems that file does not exist for you /home/vitimiti/.local/share/ubuntu-emulator/armhf-emulator/.device
[12:10] <vitimiti> The ubuntu-emulator command failed, too, sergiusens_, zbenjamin
[12:10] <vitimiti> Setting up a default password for phablet to: '0000'
[12:10] <vitimiti> chroot: failed to run command ‘/bin/sh’: Exec format error
[12:10] <vitimiti> zbenjamin, yeah, it doesn't exist, that one and others like the kernel file
[12:11] <vitimiti> Only created in the i386 emulator for me
[12:11] <zbenjamin> vitimiti: hm thats weird, seems the emulator is only half created or so
[12:11] <vitimiti> Oh, I'm using an AMD bobcat (dual core, 64 bits), too, will include that in the report
[12:11] <vitimiti> sergiusens_, I'll report in goget-ubuntu-touch since the command doesn't work, either
[12:12] <vitimiti> zbenjamin, it only creates the two .img files you see in the paste, it fails to configure it
[12:12] <zbenjamin> vitimiti: yeah the QtC can not catch that i guess
[12:12] <vitimiti> zbenjamin, neither the ubuntu-emulator create command
[12:13] <zbenjamin> vitimiti: yeah qtc just invoked the ubuntu-emulator command
[12:15] <vitimiti> Reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch/+bug/1393398
[12:15] <vitimiti> I will use the i386 emulator for now
[12:15] <zbenjamin> vitimiti: the armhf emulator is still very slow
[12:15] <zbenjamin> vitimiti: you will be more happy with the i386 one ;)
[12:15] <bzoltan> sergiusens_: :) you should use the SDK
[12:15] <vitimiti> zbenjamin, then I'm lucky it was that one which failed
[12:16] <zbenjamin> vitimiti: indeed
[12:17] <bzoltan> sergiusens_:  is it possible that the emulator does not bring up the UI on certain hw?
[12:22] <beuno> jdstrand, there's a few scopes stuck for manual review: https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/reviewer/
[12:22] <beuno> with (MANUAL REVIEW) 'account-qml-plugin' not allowed
[12:22] <beuno> I'll let you decide
[12:25] <sergiusens_> bzoltan: yes, but the armhf issues is a different one than what vitimiti is mentioning
[12:25] <vitimiti> It just doesn't create ir properly, not that it can't display
[12:25] <vitimiti> it*
[13:02] <mihir> renatu: ping
[13:02] <renatu> mihir, hi
[13:03] <mihir> renatu: i have resolved that issues, I had to create single in NewEvent page for dateChanged , and it worked well , thanks for your help
[13:03] <renatu> mihir, great
[13:03] <mihir> renatu: i have another question for that, in calendar  we're using multiple bottomEdge at multiple views like . Month / View/ Week . is there any way we can have only on BottomEdgeView in Mainview?
[13:04] <mihir> renatu: i did try that and i got pageStack errors , where it says it can't push
[13:17] <mihir> renatu: I am not sure if I can achieve that or not.
[13:25] <renatu> mihir, I am not sure if this is possible I never try that
[13:26] <mihir> renatu: okay , i did try , i'll give you MP if you get time to play with that.
[13:34] <rpadovani> davidcalle, hey :-) What's the registered name for the scope? I tried to do another search with scope://discerningduck?q=, but doesn't work
[13:45] <davidcalle> rpadovani, try the name of you .ini file
[13:58] <gventuri> nik90: could you please explain me this bug here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1380248
[14:10]  * mzanetti is sure there's a way to translate things like %1m
[14:10] <mzanetti> dpm_: you're the expert on this ^
[14:12] <dpm_> mzanetti, I'd go simply for "%1 m" - in any case, there should always be a space between the value and the units
[14:13] <nik90> gventuri: hi, just got back
[14:14] <mzanetti> dpm_: From the  NIST Guide for the Use of the International System of Units (SI)
[14:14] <mzanetti> In the expression for the value of a quantity, the unit symbol is placed after the numerical value and a space is left between the numerical value and the unit symbol. The only exceptions to this rule are for the unit symbols for degree, minute, and second for plane angle (...) in which case no space is left between the numerical value and the unit symbol.
[14:14] <nik90> gventuri: so at the moment, we show the string "alarm in 3h 20m" .... however the character "h" in "3h" cannot be translated since it is combined with the number,.
[14:14] <nik90> gventuri: and hence we would need a spacing between "3" and "h" to ensure that it is translatable in all languages. That's what the bug is about.
[14:14] <mzanetti> nik90: see my conversation with dpm_
[14:15] <mzanetti> nik90: I'm sure it can be translated somehow, and also having a space between the number an minutes is "wrong"
[14:15] <nik90> mzanetti: ah yes...
[14:15] <dpm_> mzanetti, oh, nicely spotted. I only knew of the first part, not the exception for plane angle. In any case, it's a time of the day, so I guess it's not covered by the exception
[14:15] <rpadovani> mzanetti, an american institute and international standard? How could be possible??
[14:15] <nik90> rpadovani: lol
[14:16] <mzanetti> rpadovani: fair enough :D
[14:16] <nik90> dpm_: it is covered by the minute, and second for plane angle?
[14:16] <gventuri> nik90: I see
[14:17] <mzanetti> oh... now I get it
[14:17] <nik90> gventuri: I remember you explicitly asking for no space between the characters, hence I wasn't sure what to do
[14:17] <gventuri> nik90: yeah, in other languages it is a space saver
[14:18] <dpm_> nik90, is it? We're not measuring angles here, it's a time of the day, if I understand it correctly. In any case, if the space needs to be removed, I guess it could be 2 concatenated strings
[14:19] <gventuri> nik90: can't we have 3 different text strings and 2 variables for example 'alarm in'+X+'h'+'Y'+m
[14:19] <mzanetti> yeah, just do text: value + i18n.tr("m") with a TRANSLATORS comment
[14:19] <nik90> gventuri: yeah that's what should be done I guess
[14:19] <nik90> popey, dpm_: Would I get approval to make the above change to clock app? ^^
[14:20] <nik90> or would be for ota-1?
[14:24] <popey> nik90: possibly, if it's just a string change, will it be translated?
[14:24] <nik90> popey: yeah its a new string that would need translation
[14:29] <popey> have any other changes landed in trunk since the store build?
[14:34] <kingwill101> ive been trying to compile bacon2d but keep getting  QQmlExtensionPlugin: No such file or directory. any suggestions?
[14:42] <rpadovani> kenvandine, ^^
[14:42] <kenvandine> rpadovani, he's missing build depends
[14:43] <rpadovani> oh, you're already on #bacon2d, nevermind
[14:43] <kenvandine> yup :)
[14:49] <nik90> popey: let me check, 1 sec
[14:49] <nik90> popey: the only thing that landed in trunk since the last update was https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/bump-framework/+merge/241414 and a bunch of translations
[14:50] <popey> nik90: thats going to be a problem
[14:50] <popey> nik90: krillin doesn't know about 15.04
[14:50] <nik90> popey: ? we bumped to 14.10 framework not 15.04
[14:50] <popey> oh, doh
[14:51] <popey> that'll teach me to click links
[14:51] <popey> ok, thats cool.
[14:51] <nik90> :)
[14:51] <nik90> popey: Can I go ahead with preparing the patch?
[14:52] <popey> yes, we need to file a bug and submit to the wishlist. they meet in 1.5 hours, or can wait till tomorrow.
[14:52] <popey> i recommend tomorrow.
[14:54] <popey> swordfish90: heya, got your mail, it's on my list for testing ☻
[14:54] <nik90> popey: cool tomorrow is fine
[14:55] <nik90> I will prepare a MP meanwhile
[14:55] <popey> thanks
[14:55] <swordfish90> popey, no worries. when you have time... :)
[14:56] <popey> kk ☻
[15:35] <nik90> dpm: can you glance over https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/fix-translation-string/+merge/241980 and see if it is the correct way to do it?
[15:35] <nik90> it feels a bit strange breaking the string like that
[15:47] <nik90> popey: can you check if bug 1387231 is on the top blockers list...I haven't seen progress on it and is worrying
[15:50]  * popey looks
[15:50] <popey> nik90: well its tagged ota-1
[15:51] <nik90> popey: ok..I saw it tagged ota-1 and rtm...so wasn't sure which one it was
[15:58] <dholbach> popey, is the music app supposed to be still in review?
[15:58] <popey> yes, don't touch :D
[15:58] <dholbach> yeah, thought so :)
[15:59] <dpm> nik90, done, thanks
[15:59] <dholbach> popey, did you see Pete's scopes in the store?
[16:00] <popey> nope
[16:00] <popey> i dont look at the store now I dont have to ㋛
[16:00] <dpm> nik90, indeed, it feels a bit strange to break the string, perhaps you might want to check with tsdgeos if he's got a better idea.
[16:00] <dholbach> popey, some stuff ends up in there for manual review
[16:00] <popey> yeah, I'm kidding ㋛
[16:00] <dholbach> ok, nevermind :)
[16:00] <nik90> dpm: ok, I will check with tsdgeos
[16:00] <dholbach> but I wasn't quite sure about the scopes, but might have to go back to read the phone list again
[16:02] <tsdgeos> nik90: why the old code doesn't work?
[16:02] <tsdgeos> splitting like that seems like calling for trouble
[16:02] <nik90> tsdgeos: launchpad recognises "%1d" as one string ..however we want only the "d" character to be translated
[16:03] <nik90> tsdgeos: the %1 equates to a numerical day value...
[16:03] <tsdgeos> ah so you're getting bitten by c-string
[16:03] <nik90> and design doesn't want a space between "3d" to solve the issue
[16:03] <tsdgeos> let me remember how you tell gettext this is not c
[16:03] <nik90> ok
[16:04] <tsdgeos> nik90: add //xgettext: no-c-format as comment just over the tr call
[16:04] <tsdgeos> that should fix it
[16:04] <tsdgeos> i think
[16:05] <nik90> tsdgeos: oooh ...awesome..
[16:05]  * nik90 trie
[16:05]  * nik90 tries*
[16:05] <tsdgeos> thing is that %1d is a printf-like string
[16:05] <tsdgeos> and gettext gets all smart
[16:06] <tsdgeos> and fails
[16:07] <nik90> tsdgeos: how do I confirm that this fixes the issue in launchpad without commiting to trunk?
[16:07] <tsdgeos> that's a good questio
[16:07] <tsdgeos> i am not even sure launchpad understands no-c-format
[16:07] <nik90> my pot file still like the old one w.r.t these string http://paste.ubuntu.com/9057890/
[16:08] <tsdgeos> sure
[16:08] <tsdgeos> but now it has the no-c-format marker
[16:08] <nik90> yup
[16:09] <tsdgeos> nik90: i'd say commit it and see what happens
[16:09] <tsdgeos> it can't be worse than before
[16:09] <tsdgeos> :D
[16:09] <nik90> tsdgeos: true :)
[16:10] <tsdgeos> if you want some docu on the [no-]c-format see https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/c_002dformat-Flag.html
[16:10] <nik90> tsdgeos: thnx. will let you know how it goes
[16:11] <tsdgeos> cool :)
[16:11] <tsdgeos> good luck ;)
[16:11] <nik90> :)
[16:12] <nik90> dpm: can you approve the MP as per the conversation above and we can check if it fixes the issue or not. If not, it should be simple enough to revert.
[16:18] <sverzegnassi> popey: ping
[16:22] <popey> sverzegnassi: hiya!
[16:29] <rpadovani> dpm, hey, did you have time to take a look to tagsUI branch?
[16:33] <dpm> rpadovani, not yet, sorry, but I enjoyed your "I had an idea while I was having some beers" e-mail :-)
[16:33] <rpadovani> lol :D
[16:33] <dpm> :)
[16:33] <dpm> I need to run, but I'll try to test it later on or early tomorrow morning
[16:33] <dpm> cheers
[16:33] <dpm> see you all tomorrow!
[16:41] <nik90> sverzegnassi: hey, I tried using the unity 8's zoomable image component but couldn't get it to work. When I used the component, it displays the picture properly, but the full screen zoom didnt work as expected..does it work in the docviewer app?
[16:42] <nik90> essentially I defined it in my qml file as http://paste.ubuntu.com/9058205/
[16:42] <nik90> since the rest of the code is just copying the component from unity8
[16:43] <sverzegnassi> nik90: hi! now i'll test. time to reboot my phone
[16:44] <nik90> ok
[16:50]  * sverzegnassi waiting for my poor single-core Atom to compile docviewer-app
[16:54] <sverzegnassi> nik90: which is the issue with full screen zoom? Here on docviewer-app it's ok
[16:54] <nik90> sverzegnassi: for me, when I click on the image, it doesn't go full screen
[16:55] <sverzegnassi> nik90: if i'm not wrong, zoom is supposed to work by pinching the image area or wheeling the mouse
[16:56] <nik90> sverzegnassi: oh that works!
[16:56] <nik90> sverzegnassi: but I was referring to that nice animation you see in the store when you click on an image
[16:57] <nik90> but I guess I know how to achieve that..just figured it might come built-in with the zoomable component
[16:58] <sverzegnassi> nik90: ah, we were talking about different stuff then. yep, it's nice!
[17:17] <pindonga> jdstrand, hi there... remember what we discussed about overriding framework/policy data?
[17:17] <pindonga> https://code.launchpad.net/~ricardokirkner/click-reviewers-tools/override-frameworks/+merge/241998
[17:17] <jdstrand> ack, thanks!
[17:32] <rpadovani> There is a way in the scope to close the preview when the action is pressed?
[17:46] <mzanetti> verterok: ping
[17:46] <mzanetti> rpadovani: try asking in #ubuntu-unity
[17:47] <mzanetti> oh, you did already :)
[17:47] <rpadovani> :D
[17:47] <rpadovani> I just specified what I need
[17:54] <verterok> mzanetti: pong
[17:55] <mzanetti> verterok: I think I know why the push registration isn't working. I've just sent an email
[17:56] <verterok> mzanetti: yup, reading :)
[17:57] <mzanetti> verterok: thanks :)
[17:59] <popey> \o/ upward trend http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/graph.png
[18:13] <verterok> mzanetti: try now :)
[18:16] <verterok> mzanetti: hold it. not working yet :/
[18:16] <mzanetti> :)
[18:24] <mihir> balloons_: ping
[18:26] <mzanetti> anyone knows what's wrong here?
[18:26] <mzanetti> Could not connect to host: SSH Protocol error: Server and client capabilities don't match. Client list was: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc. Server list was aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,aes128-gcm@openssh.com,aes256-gcm<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Is the device connected and set up for network access?
[18:27] <mihir> hi balloons_ we're trying to implement BottomEdge in calendar as i have already discussed with you.
[18:27] <mihir> balloons_: here is the MP , https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/bottomEdge/+merge/241590
[18:27] <mihir> could you help us with some initiation of AP . then I can make tweaks and carry forward ?
[18:28] <verterok> mzanetti: fixed
[18:28] <mzanetti> verterok: cool, will try asap. having troubles with the SDK atm not sure why
[18:29] <bzoltan> mzanetti:  what is your problem?
[18:29] <mzanetti> bzoltan:  Could not connect to host: SSH Protocol error: Server and client capabilities don't match. Client list was: aes128-cbc,3des-cbc. Server list was aes128-ctr,aes192-ctr,aes256-ctr,aes128-gcm@openssh.com,aes256-gcm<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Is the device connected and set up for network access?
[18:29] <bzoltan> mzanetti:  easy ... get the qtcreator from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools-development
[18:30] <mzanetti> :)
[18:30] <mzanetti> bzoltan: is there some mismatch in the latest image and the currently released version?
[18:31] <bzoltan> mzanetti:  it is vivid ... the new ssh server dropped a bunch of so called "unsafe" ciphers and the QtC was using exclusively those few...
[18:32] <mzanetti> bzoltan: ah ok. will upgrade from that ppa. thanks a lot
[18:32] <bzoltan> mzanetti:  we have the fix, and I made the new qtc in that ppa... now copying over to the SDK release PPA
[18:37] <mihir> gventuri: hi
[18:37] <mihir> gaspa: are you around ?
[18:38] <mihir> gaspa: sorry wrong ping.
[18:38] <mihir> gventuri: are you around ?
[19:17] <nik90> rpadovani: hey, how do I install your click? I am getting the authentication error when I do so..Was the argument --allow-unauthenticated  to force install it?
[19:17] <nik90> rpadovani: Also wouldn
[19:18] <nik90> rpadovani: Also wouldn't it be better to distribute the click via the store (clearly labelling to as alpha) for easy updates?
[19:18] <pindonga> jdstrand, pls let me know when you've had a chance to look at that mp (as I have another one building on top of it)
[19:24] <mihir> popey: as discussed converted most of the task into bugs.
[19:25] <gventuri> mihir: hi
[19:25] <mihir> hey gventuri
[19:25] <gventuri> mihir: quick hangout?
[19:25] <mihir> gventuri: sure i won't mind if you have time for that.
[19:26] <gventuri> mihir: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gyx23u6so5pprsktwyzmroldiqa
[19:32] <jdstrand> pindonga: yes, I haven't been able to get to it yet
[19:32] <jdstrand> I will try shortly
[19:32] <pindonga> jdstrand, nw
[19:32] <pindonga> thx a bunch
[19:50] <gventuri> mihir: it dropped
[19:51] <gventuri> mihir: let's catch up when you guys have finished with the update. I can install a click package on my phone
[19:52] <mihir> gventuri: i am re-joining
[19:52] <mihir> gventuri: had some interent issues
[19:52] <mihir> gventuri: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gyx23u6so5pprsktwyzmroldiqa
[19:58] <mzanetti> verterok: ok... one step further, but still not working
[19:58] <mzanetti> verterok: I'm getting status 0, as opposed to 200, no responseText
[20:02] <verterok> mzanetti: same POST request?
[20:03] <mzanetti> verterok: ah got it. I had "com.ubuntu.reminders" as opposed to "com.ubuntu.reminders_reminders"
[20:03] <mzanetti> now it seems to work.
[20:03] <mzanetti> verterok: do we need the _reminders thing? we're not really using that in the app (although I'm not sure why
[20:04] <verterok> mzanetti: the register call should work with and without the _reminders "suffix"
[20:04] <mzanetti> verterok: doesn't seem to
[20:04] <mzanetti> only works with it
[20:05] <verterok> mzanetti: the curl POST works...something else is going on then
[20:06]  * mzanetti tries again
[20:06] <verterok> also, if it's returning status 0, something is really broken ;)
[20:07] <mzanetti> :)
[20:08] <mzanetti> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9060418/
[20:09] <verterok> mzanetti: is there a way I can reproduce it?
[20:09] <mzanetti> I can push it to a branch, one sec
[20:09] <verterok> mzanetti: curl -i -H "Content-Type: application/json; charset=UTF-8" -X POST -d '{"appId":"com.ubuntu.reminders","token":atoken"","userId":"user_id"}' http://<IP_ADDRESS>:7778/register  http://<IP_ADDRESS>:7778/register
[20:10] <verterok> with a single url :)
[20:10] <mzanetti> verterok: yeah, I tried with curl too. works there
[20:10] <verterok> very weird
[20:11] <mzanetti> I've pushed to lp:~mzanetti/reminders-app/push-helper
[20:11] <mzanetti> it should compile and run on the phone with qtcreator
[20:12] <mzanetti> code is in src/app/reminders.qml line 226
[20:12] <mzanetti> src/app/qml/reminders.qml
[20:12] <verterok> mzanetti: ok, will need to setup the phone-dev-env but will try it ASAP
[20:13] <mzanetti> verterok: well, I know this takes a bit. you don't have to spend the time, I guess I'll figure it eventually
[20:14] <mzanetti> verterok: and once the register call succeeds, calling the sample url should immediately call the helper binary?
[20:14] <mzanetti> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:7778/evernote/v1/webhook?userId=testuser&notebookGUID=10
[20:15] <verterok> mzanetti: yes, after the 2 register calls (push server and the gateway)
[20:15] <verterok> mzanetti: immediately might have a bit of delay, but you can tail the push client logs
[20:16] <verterok> *not immediately,
[20:16] <mzanetti> oh, I guess I missed the second register call then
[20:17] <mzanetti> the test server does return {"ok": true} now if I use the testuser userId
[20:17] <mzanetti> so that one seems good
[20:18] <verterok> mzanetti: that means the msg was sent to the push server, and should be on it's way to the device
[20:18] <mzanetti> verterok: so both register calls should be ok then?
[20:18]  * mzanetti is still not sure what the second one should be :)
[20:19] <verterok> mzanetti: 1st is to get the token, 2nd is to set the token <-> userid relation in the gateway server (this gateway is the one you then call the webhook: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:7778/evernote/v1/webhook?userId=testuser&notebookGUID=10)
[20:20] <mzanetti> verterok: I get the token from the PushClient component, so I assume that one does the call implicitly
[20:20] <josharenson> Getting this error when trying to run app from the SDK. I can connect to the device just fine via phablet-shell or ssh. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9060530/
[20:21] <mzanetti> verterok: is there a log of the thing that tries to call the helper binary? maybe it can't find it - wrong path or so
[20:21] <rpadovani> nik90, I'll make it available on the store asap, but I need to fix 2 previews...
[20:21] <mzanetti> josharenson: had the same today, bzoltan said it should work after installing qtcreator from here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools-development
[20:21] <josharenson> mzanetti, thanks
[20:21] <mzanetti> josharenson: otherwise you can install rtm on the phone, then it works again too
[20:22] <josharenson> ah ok
[20:23] <mzanetti> verterok: yep, found it... the log is in ~/.cache/upstart/ubuntu-push-client.log, and indeed it can't find the helper binary. but I'll be able to solve that
[20:23] <mzanetti> thank you very much for your help
[20:24] <verterok> mzanetti: cool, I was looking for the log path on the phone :)
[20:24] <verterok> np
[20:24] <verterok> mzanetti: will let you know when the real server is up and running
[20:25] <mzanetti> awesome
[20:59] <balloons_> mihir, you about?
[21:00] <Letozaf_> popey, hi, at what time is the filemanger meeting tomorrow ?
[21:00] <Letozaf_> popey, last time I was late, got the wrong time I think :-P
[21:02] <popey> Letozaf_: glad you asked, just cc'ed you on a mail about that ☻
[21:02] <Letozaf_> popey, ok thanks :-)
[21:55] <theo> hi all, I currently don't have a device to install the ubuntu touch on, are the apps in emulator the final versions of those apps and are they the only apps available?
[21:56] <popey> theo: depends which emulator
[21:56] <popey> theo: the armhf emulator which is s  l  o  w  shows what's actually available on devices
[21:57] <popey> theo: the X86 emulator is nice and zippy but we don't have many x86 compiled binaries in the store
[21:57] <theo> ahh I have only run the x86
[21:57] <theo> I will give the armhf a try. thanks for that
[23:09] <jdstrand> beuno: I looked at songkick and commented that it is ok to approve, but I don't see where I can actually 'this is ok'
[23:10] <jdstrand> beuno: I apparently can only 'Add new comment'
[23:15] <jdstrand> beuno: I took care of vimeo and soundcloud (they were updated applications)
[23:16] <jdstrand> beuno: I guess maybe because songkick is a new click it isn't letting me approve it?
[23:16] <beuno> jdstrand, thanks
[23:16] <beuno> let me look
[23:16] <jdstrand> I'm looking at 'Tasks' too, but looks like I'll have the same issue
[23:17] <beuno> jdstrand, you don't have an approve button at the bottom of this?  https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/1193/review/
[23:17] <beuno> (I can approve, just want to check)
[23:17] <jdstrand> meh, I do. sorry I didn't see it
[23:18] <beuno> np
[23:18] <jdstrand> (approved)
[23:18] <beuno> found redflagged fields (needs human review): read_path
[23:18] <beuno> Task is different
[23:18] <jdstrand> yes
[23:18] <jdstrand> I am looking at it now
[23:18]  * beuno doesn't review clicks with scary wording
[23:18] <jdstrand> hehe
[23:19] <jdstrand> that's fine :)
[23:22] <jdstrand> beuno: I think you'll want to pull the latest click-reviewers-tools for bug #1392133, which I just committed a fix for
[23:28] <beuno> jdstrand, ack, will get on that tomorrow morning
[23:29] <beuno> pindonga, ^^
[23:31] <jdstrand> beuno: fyi, the other one is not needed due to a pending landing
[23:31] <jdstrand> beuno: (read_path on tasks)
[23:31] <jdstrand> I commented
[23:36] <beuno> jdstrand, pending landing in the sdk?
[23:38] <jdstrand> beuno: no, the image. apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu. this is bug 1384286 which is about to land
[23:38] <jdstrand> (there is a click-reviewers-tools component, but that isn't the relevant part I am talking about)
[23:39] <jdstrand> (I want to add a couple of extra tests)
[23:43] <beuno> jdstrand, perfect
[23:43] <beuno> jdstrand, I'm still postponing permanent exceptions per app per manual review test
[23:43] <beuno> but if it gets too much for you to keep reviewing updates of the same app, let me know
[23:44] <beuno> I sort of feel it's good to feel the pain and drive us to remove them wherever possible
[23:44] <beuno> also less work for me, which is always a win
[23:51] <jdstrand> beuno: I generally feel little pain wrt this. people use the reviewers tools and seem to manage it themselves
[23:52] <jdstrand> beuno: I'm not ready for per apps permanent exceptions. that is a complex problem for the security tests and cleanliness of the clicks in the store in general
[23:54] <beuno> jdstrand, I will take no extra work.


[09:58] <nava> is ubuntu writing a sdk ? (for tablet , tv ,smartphones and also desktop)
[10:01] <head_victim> nava: This channel is for specific guided learning events, general support is available in #ubuntu
[10:20] <nava> is canonical writing a sdk ? (for tablet , tv ,smartphones and also desktop)
[10:20] <benonsoftware> nava: This channel is for specific guided learning events, general support is available in #ubuntu
[10:20] <nava> tnx but i want ask for what is that language
[10:21] <nava> this channel is for developers right ?
[10:21] <benonsoftware> No, #ubuntu-devel might be better
[10:22] <nava> cuz i found this channel in developer.ubuntu.com
[10:22] <nava> tnx
[10:25] <benonsoftware> No problems


[01:07] <Guest385> hello.
[01:08] <Guest385> who is workong on python packages? I'm receiveing everyday updates of python related packages, and virtualenv/virtualenvwrapper doesnt work with these python packages
[05:59] <gnomefreak> anyone know if it is safe to remove libbamf0 and im-switch?
[06:45] <jbicha> gnomefreak: yes
[06:45] <gnomefreak> jbicha: thanks
[06:46] <gnomefreak> done already
[06:51] <gnomefreak> can someone please try to conform bug 1082658?
[06:51]  * gnomefreak goes for smoke (oh and that bug is on 13.04
[06:51] <gnomefreak> )*
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[16:27] <aliendude5300> Hi, I need some help. Ever since kernel 3.7.05, my wired ethernet stopped working. I updated the BIOS on my computer, and it worked successfully (was this a mistake?). Now Ubuntu won't boot. At all. Before GRUB comes up, the screen flickers, and it goes back to the BIOS splash screen. Windows 8 boots fine. My motherboard is an ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe. CPU is i7-3770k.
[16:29] <aliendude5300> I have no idea how to fix this :'( I can't boot Ubuntu at all now. GRUB doesn't even work...
[16:40] <bjsnider> that's a heck of a cpu
[16:40] <bjsnider> a cpu and a half really
[16:42] <bjsnider> i'd be curious if it boots with today's livecd


[06:32] <dgadomski> mwhudson: yes, it's in xenial branch on https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity
[08:30] <realitix> Hello, I tried this patch and it works great, if Nish Aravamudan is here, can you merge it ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomcat8/+bug/1644144
[08:41] <rbasak> sil2100: o/ thank you for opining on the openscap bug. I think your points are quite convincing, and I'm inclined to accept the SRU now. Do you have any objection? I wondered if it was within the SRU's remit to make this decision, but as you point out all fixes are regressions for people relying on broken behaviour, so I think that making that decision is an SRU team judgement call now.
[09:14] <sil2100> rbasak: I don't think I have any objections to accepting it - as I said I also have mixed feelings, but saw this potential 'invalid usage' case here. If you have the same feeling here, I guess it should be good to go to -proposed
[09:17] <rbasak> OK, thanks
[09:51] <cpaelzer> rbasak: waveform: I depleted my py-foo - is one of you around that could help me debug a hang in a cpython  .so  (bug 1797324)?
[10:11] <TJ-> cyphermox: shim-signed (1.37~18.04.2+15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1) in bionic-proposed declares Depends: "shim (= 13-0ubuntu2)" - shouldn't that be "shim ( = 15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1)" ? Users reporting the package is listed by "apt list --upgradable" but never upgraded .
[10:14] <waveform> cpaelzer, I can take a quick look if you want?
[10:20] <cpaelzer> waveform: I'm about to leave for lunch
[10:20] <cpaelzer> waveform: would you be available for a HO later on
[10:20] <waveform> sure - ping me when you want
[10:20] <cpaelzer> we could look together with me sharing the console
[10:21] <cpaelzer> ok, also need to sort a virsh thing - will ping you
[10:21] <cpaelzer> thanks for the offer
[10:21] <waveform> no prob :)
[10:38] <cpaelzer> waveform: I'd be back
[10:42] <waveform> cpaelzer, right - I'm here (got tea :)
[10:42] <cpaelzer> I sent you a HO link in a query
[10:42] <cpaelzer> whenever you are ready
[10:42] <TJ-> cpaelzer: did you see the last comment on your bug about a possible fix?
[10:47] <cpaelzer> not yet TJ, refreshing
[11:03] <cpaelzer> TJ-: rbalint_: it doesn't exactly look like the same problem, but I'll ive it a try still after the debugging session we have atm
[11:04] <cpaelzer> rbalint_: do you have a ppa of that somewhere or do I have to put the one in -unapproved into one?
[11:31] <rbalint> cpaelzer, but if sil2100 could process it in his sru shift today ... :-) (update-manager)
[11:31] <rbalint> cpaelzer, i don't have it in ppa, sorry
[11:34] <cpaelzer> it is in https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/3472 now
[11:39] <sil2100> rbasak: will try, but I'm a bit busy busy this week - will hand it over to someone else if I don't make it today
[12:04] <rbasak> rbalint: I think that was for you ^
[12:23] <rbalint> rbasak, it could be you, too ;-)
[12:24] <rbasak> :)
[12:43] <rbasak> pitti: hi! Would you mind taking a glance at bug 1796407 please? I think I understand the report and I'm treating it as effectively a feature request, but wondered if you had any comment.
[12:53] <pitti> rbasak: hello! ugh, that's been a while, I'll need to spend some time to get into that code again; I kept a tab for it as a reminder
[12:58] <rbasak> Thanks!
[13:05] <cyphermox> TJ-: shim-signed it is supposed to be =15~ etc.; it had failed to build due to the messing around we did with a revert, looks like the right stuff is in -updates right now...
[13:05] <cyphermox> no, I'm thinking of xenial with the ftbfs
[13:05] <cyphermox> anyway, shim looks like it's in place and has the right Depends...
[13:07] <TJ-> cyphermox: I wasn't sure but the user was getting such weird symptoms I wondered if that may be responsible
[13:08] <cyphermox> well, if it says =13 it's clearly wrong
[13:12] <TJ-> cyphermox: I think I misread the user's "apt-cache show" - it listed for multiple versions and only captured the last one, which was for shim-signed 1.34.9+13-0ubuntu2
[13:13] <TJ-> cyphermox: so that wasn't the cause of the user problem then
[13:14] <cyphermox> no, the problem is something else
[13:14] <cyphermox> shim-signed was promoted, but not shim
[13:15] <cyphermox> that's what the problem is
[13:16] <TJ-> cyphermox: ahhh, that was my other thought but local apt-cache policy seemed to show both packages matched versions in bionic-proposed
[13:25] <cyphermox> in proposed, yes, but not in updates
[13:27] <TJ-> cyphermox: ahhh! good point, the user may not have -proposed enabled. doh! should have thought of that.
[13:34] <cyphermox> it became really noticeable, I can't deploy bionic in maas.
[18:10] <bdmurray> Laney: Did you see my comment on bug 1797384?
[19:02] <Laney> bdmurray: no, but yes that'd probably be fine :-)
[21:32] <tjaalton> hum, a qemu vm clone still gets the same ip from dhcp even though the hostname changed
[21:32] <tjaalton> and mac
[21:34] <tjaalton> ah, because of /etc/machine-id


[15:33] <PanagiotisChavar> Hi!
[15:33] <PanagiotisChavar> I have just enabled the Lubuntu Backports PPA with LXQt 1.2
[15:35] <PanagiotisChavar> I'm getting the following message after "apt upgrade":
[15:35] <PanagiotisChavar> The following packages have been kept back:
[15:35] <PanagiotisChavar>   lximage-qt lxqt-about lxqt-admin lxqt-archiver lxqt-config lxqt-globalkeys lxqt-notificationd lxqt-openssh-askpass lxqt-panel lxqt-policykit lxqt-powermanagement
[15:35] <PanagiotisChavar>   lxqt-qtplugin lxqt-runner lxqt-session lxqt-sudo pcmanfm-qt qps qterminal qtermwidget5-data
[15:35] <PanagiotisChavar> Am I missing something?
[15:37] <PanagiotisChavar> Correct! To be specific, "22.04.1"
[16:06] <tsimonq2> javaripa: It'll need to be a full-upgrade
 "javaripa: It'll need to be a..." <- You are right. Thanks for the help.
[16:26] <tsimonq2> No worries :)


[19:08] <Eickmeyer> Earth to teward: check PMs on TG.
[19:09] <teward> putting out some fires at FT job, is it important enough that I have to put that aside or can it wait?