 there is already one pre-installed by default, perhaps in the manual it would be a good place to indicate it
 And how to proceed with the languages
 HI! I have a question. … When I'm typing something on the keyboard, sometimes the system hangs one or more keys and I can unlock it and keep using the keyboard, but the touchpad doesn't respond anymore, so I'm forced to run … ```sudo modprobe -r psmouse … sudo modprobe psmouse … ```Is this a Lubuntu issue, a Debian one, or a Linux o
 sounds like a Linux Kernel problem, or a hardware problem, not necessarily an Lubuntu or Debian issue.  Bit, you'd have to test the other OSes out there to see if it's really an Lubuntu problem or not
 Wow that was fast
 (this said, touchpad issues are VERY hard to debug)
 (and it could be an issue with the hardware not just the system)
 i'm on Telegram for multiple reasons right now, so I saw your msg as it came in LOL
 normally i'm not alive here on a regular basis
 because work obligations
 I see
 @teward001 [(this said, touchpad issues are VERY hard to debug)], Very hard indeed!
 I cannot reproduce the bug myself
 @teward001 [sounds like a Linux Kernel problem, or a hardware problem, not necessarily an Lu …], I had Ubuntu and I remember that something similar happened... but it was several years ago
 Well, I should keep looking for the solution then. Thanks!


[00:26] <shpngld> hello and good eveneing
[00:26] <David-A> hi
[00:27] <shpngld> I would like to ask, how can i change the sound output so it switches from usual plufout to usb headphones plugout?
[00:27] <shpngld> my friend is sleeping and i cant use  my speaker sstm
[00:27] <shpngld> so i plugged USB  headphones w mic
[00:28] <shpngld> I want to have some music on the headphones, not speaker system
[00:29] <shpngld> jow i can change the output sound to usm phones, not udusl dprskrt dyd
[00:29] <shpngld> sys*
[00:29] <shpngld> USB phones*
[00:30] <shpngld> its too dark here, sorry i dont want to disturb my sleepin friend
[00:30] <David-A> shpngld: in the mixer, do you have different slides for "front", "master", or "back" and "headphone"?
[00:32] <shpngld> there r a lot of devices i can choose
[00:33] <David-A> output devices i presume
[00:34] <David-A> (i am not that familiar with pulse, i'm alsa myself, someone may cut in if they like)
[00:34] <shpngld> qwkk
[00:34] <David-A> eh?
[00:34] <shpngld> I catch the Mic but not the phone
[00:36] <David-A> you want to use the a mic too? thats an input device
[00:36] <shpngld> no just the phones
[00:36] <shpngld> u know its combo mic and phones
[00:36] <shpngld> but w/ 1 usb only
[00:37] <null1024> Hello, I disabled screen suspend and screen blanking in the XFCE Power Manager, but the screen still goes dark every 20 or so minutes if I don't press any keys/move the mouse, is there something I missed?
[00:38] <David-A> in the output device tab, you select a device above and some settings for it below. selecting another device does not by itself disable it, just show the other device's settings.
[00:38] <null1024> like, if I'm playing a game with a joypad or watching a long youtube video, the screen turns off [I'm on a laptop if that helps]
[00:39] <David-A> so select the non-headphones device and try a setting for it that mutes it. maybe a slider, a mute mode, or a setting that doesnt sound anything.
[00:40] <shpngld> Thanks a lot People!!!!!!!! I managed to do it its ok now thanks!!!
[00:40] <shpngld> and last question
[00:40] <David-A> there may be settings that automatically disables a speaker if a headphone is plugged in, but guess you have tried that. (may be in bios, may be in sound settings)
[00:41] <shpngld> I f i want to change my currebnt videocard w better one ,,,what should i dom except rempvin the old one and plugiin the new one..would it be therer any problesm just to strat my pc as usual?
[00:43] <shpngld> I have heard that i have to reinstall the whole system
[00:44] <shpngld> (xubuntu 11.10)
[00:44] <David-A> shpngld: if you have enabled proprietary drivers in "system>hardward drivers" disable them before changing videocard.
[00:44] <shpngld> yes i Hace
[00:44] <shpngld> Have
[00:44] <shpngld> so first disable them, then switch off, replace cards and restart as usual?
[00:44] <David-A> (you'd like a backlit keyboard now, would you) :)
[00:45] <shpngld> yes i do
[00:45] <shpngld> sorry about that
[00:45] <shpngld> I dont want to disturb him
[00:45] <null1024> mmkay, think I found out how on my own -- apparently that sort of thing works through xscreensaver [had to install it], I'll go wait and see if it worked
[00:45] <David-A> no worries
[00:45]  * shpngld -> disaster noob
[00:46] <shpngld> its all abvout a *** game- Regnum
[00:46] <shpngld> my video is nvidia mx 640
[00:46] <shpngld> i want to replace it wit readen 6200?! i think
[00:47] <David-A> shpngld: right, disable them, switch off, replace cards and restart
[00:47] <David-A> shpngld: what make is the current card? nvidia?
[00:47] <shpngld> ..pfff i dont even know what video is this
[00:47] <shpngld> nvidia
[00:47] <shpngld> mx
[00:47] <shpngld> 64mb
[00:49] <David-A> after disable proprietary driver, check that there is no file /etc/X11/xorg.conf lingering. if there is, rename it with some funny suffix so it wont disturb the new card.
[00:49] <shpngld> GeForce4 MX 420/AGP/SSE2
[00:50] <shpngld> ok so i disable prop drv, ername the conf then switch off and repalce cards
[00:51] <David-A> right, good luck, will you do it tonight so i'll wait?
[00:51] <shpngld> no not now..my friesn is sleeping..it will be total disaster to do it in the dark....
[00:52] <shpngld> Thanks alot for everythink David-A
[00:52] <David-A> :) challange
[00:52] <shpngld> he will accuse me againf of drug abuse
[00:53] <shpngld> I dont wanr it
[00:53] <David-A> "again", nice friend
[00:53] <shpngld> well ...this wont be a good start of the weekend
[00:53] <shpngld> sorry
[00:54] <David-A> shpngld: i dont get it, you fixed the headphones, and you'l change video card when the light comes up, thats a good start...
[00:55] <shpngld> thanks a lot again David-A  I will deff. do it in the mornin (less suspicious at least..and more light i guess)
[00:55] <shpngld> yes cuz, the card change involve opening the PC tower
[00:55] <shpngld> without tools
[00:55] <shpngld> and light
[00:55] <shpngld> Headphones- USB
[00:56] <shpngld> ez-r
[00:58] <shpngld> anyway..thanks again 4 ur help... got my music on (and vid)...the booze is missin...Catch ya tommorrow if i have problems
[01:44] <excise> is there any way to double the size of panel 1 so applications spill over on to a second row when many are open?
[01:51] <C1sM0> excise: go to application menu -> Settings -> Setting Manager
[01:52] <C1sM0> Then click Panel
[01:53] <C1sM0> Then look under "Measurements" the Size field
[01:55] <excise> C1sM0, that just makes everything bigger.  I'd like for there to be 2 rows for open applications
[01:58] <C1sM0> excise: You could add an extra panel but I am not sure how to place your open application on the second panel.
[02:40] <Zuber> I have had a problem booting xubuntu 12.04 since the last update 2 days ago. I turn the computer on, it pulls up the xubuntu loading screen with the bar for about 2 seconds. Then it flashes to a black screen with tty1 at the top and asks for my login. If I log in, it gives me basically the terminal. How can I recover my desktop?
[02:42] <Zuber> I have tried ctrl+alt+f7 and it stop at a line saying "Starting LightDM Display Manager         [fail]"
[02:44] <bazhang> with the nomodeset option?
[02:44] <bazhang> !nomodeset
[02:50] <Zuber> I attempted the command acpi_osi= and then attempted ctrl+alt+f7 again, and the LightDM Display Manager still failed to load.
[02:51] <Zuber> Did I do this correctly? And thank you in advance for help.
[03:04] <Zuber> If I try to open anything with a display I get a message saying "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"
[05:56] <Derpian> is the i386 release of 12.04 non pae?
[05:57] <blackgatonegro> pae is not installed by default
[05:57] <blackgatonegro> but you can install pae using synaptic
[17:50] <xubuntu398> hi
[17:50] <xubuntu398> Hsving problems downloading the torrent?
[17:52] <xubuntu398> Sorry... I'm having problems downloading the xubuntu torrent from http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/, anybody know why?
[17:52] <Sysi> !downtime
[17:52] <Sysi> maybe related to that
[17:53] <xubuntu398> Yeah I saw that, anyone know of a mirror of the torrent?
[17:57] <GridCube> you already have the torrent?
[17:57] <GridCube> if yes you dont need a mirror it will catch up seeds
[17:58] <xubuntu398> no I don't
[17:58] <xubuntu398> I need a mirror of the .torrent file
[17:58] <GridCube> oh
[17:59] <GridCube> xubuntu398, there should be one here: http://linuxtracker.org/
[18:00] <GridCube> mm, no, there arent
[18:02] <GridCube> xubuntu398, http://ca.isohunt.com/download/386387381/xubuntu.torrent
[18:02] <GridCube> and this one for amd64 http://ca.isohunt.com/download/386421529/xubuntu.torrent
[18:03] <xubuntu398> cool thanks
[18:03] <xubuntu398> I found this as well http://www.torrentroom.com/torrent/3713236-xubuntu-12-04-desktop-amd64-iso.html
[18:03] <xubuntu398> just now
[18:04] <xubuntu398> its a shame they dont have the info hash on the xubuntu site
[18:04] <GridCube> true that, let me propose they add it :)
[18:05] <aquix> check the hashsums if you download from another source than xubuntu.com
[18:05] <xubuntu398> where are they published?
[18:05] <GridCube> aquix, they cant be fetched because the ubuntu.com sites are down
[18:06] <xubuntu398> haha
[18:06] <aquix> ah..   I see
[18:06] <astraljava> So umm... you know that released versions are available on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/
[18:07] <GridCube> it was not accesible a few minutes ago o:
[18:07] <astraljava> It worked for me just now.
[18:07] <GridCube> i tried that first
[18:07] <xubuntu398> it still isnt for me
[18:07] <astraljava> Ok, so DNS issues then, probably.
[18:07] <xubuntu398> i'll try flush
[18:07] <GridCube> xubuntu398, try ctrl-shift-R
[18:08] <xubuntu398> ?
[18:08] <GridCube> on firefox that refreshes without cache
[18:09] <xubuntu398> oh right
[18:09] <xubuntu398> yeah, but it wont cache if it times out
[18:09] <GridCube> true
[18:10] <xubuntu398> hmm nope
[18:10] <xubuntu398> Guess I'll be using Gnome then
[18:11] <GridCube> well, get the md5: 724224b8d62c7bccecdee6b82850c0e6 *xubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:11] <GridCube> 52fddd81e75bb421a5435a42ca9ec6df *xubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[18:11] <xubuntu398> ah
[18:33] <xubuntu517> hey grid do you have the 64 bit md5 again...sorry
[18:35] <xubuntu517> Never mind I can get its working for me again
[18:44] <gunarm> i keep getting a message (every few days) that says "System program problem detected:  Do you want to report the problem now?"   but gives me no information about what the problem is?  how can I find out whats happening?
[18:49] <blackgatonegro> check the boot logs
[19:04] <Artemis3> gunarm, there is a button for details, and you can see the culprit there. I always get that from tumblerd
[19:06] <gunarm> no i just have "Cancel" and "Report Problem" buttons, or else I wouldnt be asking
[19:06] <gunarm> id expect there to be a details button
[19:07] <gunarm> actually i'm not using xubuntu, i'm using regular ubuntu with xfce as my dilly, not sure if thats different
[19:07] <xubuntu761> I can't get my wireless adapter to work?
[19:08] <blackgatonegro> as long as you use xfce with ubuntu, iit does act like xubuntu
[19:08] <blackgatonegro> only different might be if kernel is pae or not
[19:11] <gunarm> ah ok
[19:31] <Artemis3> gunarm, push report and then you can see details, you can cancel after that :)
[19:32] <gunarm> ahh, didnt think of that, thanks
[19:34] <Moonshiner24mUK> argh!! nothing on desura launches, and steam has missing fonts despite following the guides. help anyone?
[19:35] <Moonshiner24mUK> and my ATI opengl  driver has gone back to  version 1.4
[19:37] <Artemis3> Moonshiner24mUK, Why not wait for an official steam release? It's supposed to come out this year...
[19:38] <Moonshiner24mUK> :D!!!! hallelujah!!!!
[19:53] <Murtaugh> On precise, is there a way to fix the error in partition size reporting?
[19:53] <Murtaugh> like when you mount or connect a partition without a label, the default name it gives on the desktop
[19:54] <Murtaugh> 29 and 35gb file systems reported as 32 and 38
[19:56] <mongy> Murtaugh, give it a label then as the correct size :)
[19:57] <Murtaugh> ah, so for generic/unlabled ones it's always going to do that?
[20:02] <Murtaugh> then again, I find the whole "eject" instead of "unmount" thing more annoying :P
[20:11] <mongy> Murtaugh, get my last messages?
[20:11] <Murtaugh> 15:56 < mongy> Murtaugh, give it a label then as the correct size :)
[20:11] <Murtaugh> 15:57 < Murtaugh> ah, so for generic/unlabled ones it's always going to do that?
[20:11] <mongy> Murtaugh, it must be a mb=100 / mb=1024 thing..
[20:11] <Murtaugh> 16:02 < Murtaugh> then again, I find the whole "eject" instead of "unmount" thing more annoying :P
[20:11] <mongy> Murtaugh, just make the label as "29GB"
[20:12] <mongy> Murtaugh, as for unmount, add the Places plugin to panel and you'll get unmount option in that..
[20:12] <Murtaugh> is eject the same thing as unmount?
[20:13] <mongy> no
[20:14] <mongy> unmount keeps the drive 'seen' but not mounte
[20:14] <Murtaugh> ah, I just used g-parted to unmount the last time
[20:14] <Murtaugh> was switching my new flash drive for fat32 to ntfs
[20:15] <Murtaugh> I'd just put ext3 on it, but I need to use it with windows computers at school
[20:17] <Murtaugh> synaptic says xfce4-places-plugin and libunity9 are installed
[20:18] <mongy> right click panel, add
[20:18] <mongy> change its icon to a label, like good old gnome2 days
[20:21] <Murtaugh> I have to use the places menu to unmount drives in precise?
[20:22] <mongy> well, for me, thunar doesn't have the unmount option half the time for certain drives.
[20:22] <mongy> internal ones it does, external ones not often.
[20:23] <Murtaugh> my usual instal is a dated karmic one >_<
[20:23] <Murtaugh> sometime soon I'm going to dual boot karmic and precise on this machine
[20:24] <Murtaugh> I have a question on if the installer can do something fancy though- mount the /home folder of this partition as /home
[20:25] <Murtaugh> I neglected to make a seperate /home partition for this install, it was meant to be a temp to fix another one, but I ended up just using this one instead
[20:27] <Murtaugh> or could i do that via the fstab later?
[20:32] <mongy> you can install without erasing home...
[20:34] <Murtaugh> I don't want to overwrite this isntall
[20:34] <Murtaugh> yet
[20:35] <Murtaugh> I want the 2 working side by side until I know precise runs well, and I can get all the little driver issues worked out
[20:35] <martinphone> how do I add user deltree to group vboxs
[20:36] <martinphone> group vboxusers?
[20:36] <Murtaugh> this machine is still on karmic because I couldn't get lucid to work and was afraid to update when a clean install of it wouldn't run
[20:43] <mongy> usermod -G vboxusers -a deltree
[20:43] <martinphone> mongy, is there an echo option for that?
[20:44] <mongy> Murtaugh, you can install to your / partition that has home in it and not overwrite anything.
[20:44] <mongy> martinphone, you mean like to echo to a file ?
[20:45] <martinphone> mongy, forgive the pickiness of the noob, it is enoguh if you say what is the worst that could happen
[20:45] <martinphone> all this is totally new for me
[20:45] <mongy> well /etc/group has this for me, vboxusers:x:108:dean
[20:46] <mongy> so you could just add ,deltree to that I guess
[20:46] <mongy> not tried it though.
[20:46] <mongy> make backups!
[20:48] <martinphone> mongy, usermod: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later.
[20:48] <martinphone> do I have to kill the vm to do it?
[20:48] <mongy> did it as root?
[20:48] <martinphone> no, thx
[20:50] <martinphone> i still get the message though
[20:50] <mongy> odd
[20:50] <mongy> sudo usermod -G vboxusers -a deltree  ?
[20:54] <martinphone> sorry
[20:54] <martinphone> sudo usermod -G vboxusers -a dexter
[20:54] <martinphone> wrong name
[20:54] <martinphone> but the command is the same
[20:57] <martinphone> anyhow, in control panel I disabled internet connections
[20:58] <martinphone> and despite that message I could disconnect the NAT thing
[20:58] <martinphone> adapter 1 (non attached)
[20:58] <martinphone> are all virtualizations that small? scaling it up makes it look weird, icons enlarged but not proportionally
[21:03] <mongy> small?
[22:18] <B3rz3rk3r> hi guys, running xubuntu 12.04 on an HP laptop. It's going to sleep while I'm watching a movie in VLC. How do I stop this?
[22:19] <astraljava> B3rz3rk3r: It's probably some settings in Power Management. Have a look at those.
[22:19] <GridCube> on the configurations go to the power managment option
[22:21] <B3rz3rk3r> I understand I can manually disable sleep, but I want to leave it enabled and just have the pc detect that there is user activity still on going
[22:22] <astraljava> B3rz3rk3r: Right, so like GridCube said, probably VLC's configurations. It should most likely have options for disabling power management while playing.
[22:22] <B3rz3rk3r> it does, and it's enabled but not working
[22:22] <GridCube> B3rz3rk3r, thats an annoying bug
[22:23] <mnewton> what package install accessibility features like slow keys. I want to purge it.
[22:23] <GridCube> you have to disable power management for the whole computer
[22:23] <GridCube> enable it back again later
[22:23] <GridCube> theres not much else you can do
[22:23] <B3rz3rk3r> ok :(
[22:23] <B3rz3rk3r> thanks for your help
[22:30] <mongy> B3rz3rk3r, if you use mplayer or the variants then you can add something to config to stop it while video playing.
[22:31] <mongy> I use smplayer on arch and I have .mplayer/config with the line heartbeat-cmd="xscreensaver-command -deactivate >&- 2>&- &"
[22:32] <martinphone> mongy, you do use virtual box, correct?
[22:32] <B3rz3rk3r> mongy, that sounds like what im looking for, never used Mplayer before though. I'll grab it now thanks!
[22:32] <mongy> martinphone, yes
[22:33] <martinphone> mongy, how do I cut or copy a windows app from my home dir or usb stick to my virtual box's c drive?
[22:33] <mongy> use shared folders
[22:34] <B3rz3rk3r> mongy, is Mplayer called Parole on Xubuntu?
[22:34] <mongy> no
[22:35] <David-A> B3rz3rk3r: in VLC advanced settings (show all settings>advanced) there is a "Inhibit power management daemon during playback". is it enabled?
[22:35] <mongy> smplayer/umplayer are better frontends for mplayer
[22:36] <mongy> but you can use .mplayer/config for them
[22:36] <martinphone> mongy, what do I do with machine and transient folders?
[22:36] <B3rz3rk3r> i just tried to install it via terminal and its already installed, so i take it its the backend to Parole then.
[22:36] <mongy> B3rz3rk3r, not used parole tbh...
[22:36] <GridCube> B3rz3rk3r, smplayer is pretty nice indeed
[22:36] <GridCube> even if its qt
[22:36] <GridCube> it avoids this bug
[22:36] <B3rz3rk3r> David-A, yeah it doesn't seem to be working. I'm using caffiene to keep the screen awake, but cant stop pc from sleeping
[22:37] <David-A> B3rz3rk3r: (sorry, just found you already checked that)
[22:37] <mongy> martinphone, add the shared folder in the vm settings, then boot the vm, with additions installed and your user added to vboxusers group, access it from the vm, in this case windows using explorer
[22:37] <B3rz3rk3r> David-A, np mate, thanks for trying ;)
[22:40] <martinphone> mongy, read only? autonomunt or permanent?
[22:40] <martinphone> id say permanent, right?
[22:41] <mongy> if the guest is windows then read only automount
[22:41] <mongy> if you want to copy a file from home on the host to c on the guest.
[22:41] <mongy> you have to have guest additions installed though in the guest.
[22:42] <martinphone> installing guest additions
[22:54] <martinphone> mongy, do you also have an antivirus for your virtualized windows OS?
[22:55] <holstein> i do.. when im planning on using it online.. it *is* an OS.. an acutual windows install.. you can always save a snapeshot too
[22:55] <holstein> snapshot*
[22:56] <martinphone> do you need to download updates for your virtualized windows os?
[22:56] <holstein> martinphone: you need do what makes you comfortable and safe.. if you would do it on the OS,a nd you are going to use it.. you might want to
[22:59] <mongy> I usually disable the interface in it, you don't need it for shared folders
[22:59] <mongy> I don't want windows on my network :)
[23:03] <well_laid_lawn> Q