[06:10] <Nerd42> the other night i stayed up all night watching the entire season of Pure Pwnage
[06:10] <maynoth> i guess ill format
[06:10] <maynoth> lOL
[06:10] <Lovloss> it used to run perfectly in I.E. by default, whereas Firefox never seemed to allow it.
[06:10] <Jordan_U> Lovloss: IE4linux
[06:10] <Lovloss> we tried that, but it failed also
[06:11] <Jordan_U> Lovloss: Link to the site?
[06:11] <Nerd42> whats up wid teh penguin anywayz?
[06:11] <Lovloss> http://thaitv.tv
[06:11] <Nerd42> liek, why does linux have this penguin mascot ?
[06:11] <Lovloss> Cuz its cute
[06:11] <Lovloss> :P
[06:12] <Xenguy> Nerd42: blame it on Linux
[06:12] <Xenguy> er, Linus
[06:12] <dabaR> maynoth, I found a solution, you are so impatient that you left.
[06:12] <slowz3r> Can anyone help me set up NDISwrapper and my external USB Wifi antenna ? please
[06:12] <Xenguy> Nerd42: Linus Torvald, linux inventor
[06:12] <Xenguy> Nerd42: he chose it somehow
[06:12] <dabaR> Nerd42: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tux
[06:13] <Xenguy> Nerd42: I've grown used to it
[06:13] <Xenguy> and like it now
[06:13] <Lovloss> By the way guys, when you get error messages every time you install something, isnt there an apt-get command to fix it/find out what package is the problem
[06:13] <bimberi> Lovloss: sudo apt-get -f install
[06:13] <Lovloss> thanks
[06:13] <hairk> I'm not sure if I understand the keyring concept, as I cannot find any detailed documentation regarding keyrings... Currently I have a keyring called "default" and in it, NetworkManager is storing my WPA password. Every time ubuntu loads, I have to enter my really long WPA password.. is this the way it's supposed to work? Or is it really asking for my 'default' keyring password?
[06:14] <Xenguy> Lovloss: look to the error message usually, and then remove the offending app
[06:14] <shaym> hello
[06:15] <Naik0> Hey how can i get my home folder and trash on the desk?
[06:15] <Madpilot> hairk, when you set up the keyring, Ubuntu should have asked you for a pw -that keyring pw should now unlock any any stored pws
[06:15] <hairk> ahhh
[06:15] <shaym> who can give me his xorg config file for a ATI X600 laptop video card ?
[06:15] <Lovloss> right
[06:15] <slowz3r> Can anyone help me set up NDISwrapper and my external USB Wifi antenna ? please
[06:15] <hairk> ok, I think I've saved my WPA password as the 'default' keyring password
[06:15] <hairk> which is not what I want
[06:15] <Nerd42> ah i read that wikipedia article on Tux
[06:15] <hairk> how can I change the password for the 'default' keyring?
[06:16] <dabaR> Naik0: it is a nautilus option in gconf-editor, does that help?
[06:16] <Nerd42> it makes more sense than that weird four-color flag logo
[06:16] <Lovloss> Oop! i closed on accident
[06:16] <Lovloss> did anyone send me a message?
[06:16] <dabaR> Lovloss: no
[06:16] <Nerd42> at least you can reasonably direct violence towards the linux mascot
[06:16] <Nerd42> the windows logo looks more ... indestructable
[06:16] <dabaR> ya, windows, unbreakable...
[06:16] <Nerd42> like, you'd hurt your fist - or your knife or whatever
[06:17] <Nerd42> or at least get cut on the pieces
[06:17] <Xenguy> Nerd42: but violence, except in self-defence, is inherently unreasonably =)
[06:17] <Nerd42> OK which kernel do i want
[06:17] <Nerd42> Linux
[06:17] <Madpilot> hairk, far as I know, you'll have to delete your keyring & rebuild it w/ the new password, which is a damn irritation
[06:17] <Lovloss> lol tnx
[06:17] <dabaR> Xenguy: depending on how widely you define self
[06:18] <slowz3r> think anyone can help me install and set up NDISWrapper
[06:18] <Nerd42> Which kernel: "Linux-powerpc" "Linux-image-powerpc" or "linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-powerpc" ???
[06:18] <Nerd42> which of those kernels do i want ??
[06:18] <poolkey172> Hi again
[06:18] <hairk> Madpilot, I can't delete the 'default' keyring using the keyring manager...
[06:18] <Xenguy> dabaR: after due consideration, I think my statement parses reasonably :-)
[06:19] <richiefrich> Nerd42  linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-powerpc  <-- any ne2wer ones  then that?
[06:19] <hairk> Madpilot, is it done manually? config files and stuff?
[06:19] <Nerd42> um, no
[06:19] <Nerd42> those are the ones on the list
[06:19] <Madpilot> hairk, no, you'll have to delete it's folder & start again. the 'keyring manager' doesn't actually do much managing of the keyring...
[06:19] <Nerd42> the three i just listed are the ones that are there
[06:19] <richiefrich> Nerd42 that one is fine then
[06:19] <Nerd42> the one with the version number?
[06:19] <richiefrich> Nerd42 what ylist.. the install CD?
[06:19] <Xenguy> dabaR: self of course doesn't exist, or so they say ;-)
[06:19] <Nerd42> or does it matter?
[06:19] <Nerd42> yeah its off a cd
[06:19] <hairk> Madpilot, yeah, it's more like a half-finished viewer rather than manager
[06:20] <richiefrich> Nerd42 the one with the ver #
[06:20] <hscottyh> slowz3r: what problems are you having
[06:20] <ScreaminIke> ok. so i saw Democracy player on Digg. then on boingboing. and i've tried it in the past. and it does this thing where it installs the Mozilla browser. which is fine, i guess. a dependency is a dependency. BUT.... then i can't force my system to use firefox. it's like it forgets that firefox exists, so, unless i launch it manually, any link clicked opens the Mozilla browser. is there a fix for this.?
[06:20] <Nerd42> (a cd i am unable to take out of the drive in fact, due to the wierdness of mac hardware)
[06:20] <Nerd42> ok its installing teh kernel
[06:20] <Madpilot> hairk, you can just delete ~/.gnome2/keyrings/ to re-start your keyring from scratch
[06:20] <hairk> Madpilot, thank you!!
[06:21] <Lovloss> Okay guys, i installed democracy and it still wont buffer in thaitv.tv... it just sits there. any ideas?
[06:21] <dabaR> Lovloss: give a link to the page you are trying to get to work.
[06:21] <Jordan_U> ScreaminIke: Yup, preferred applications, it's in the menues somewhere :)
[06:21] <Lovloss> davaR: Its kind of a paysite with membership
[06:21] <ScreaminIke> yea. that doesn't work.
[06:22] <Lovloss> er dabaR
[06:22] <Lovloss> hold on
[06:22] <dabaR> ScreaminIke: did you look in default apps?
[06:22] <ScreaminIke> where is that?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> ScreaminIke: If yu try to remove mozilla does it try to remove democracy also?
[06:22] <dabaR> ScreaminIke: it is in prefs under system I think
[06:23] <ScreaminIke> you can't remove mozilla without removing democracy. it's a dependency
[06:23] <ScreaminIke> dabaR, yea. prefered apps. doesn't fix it.
[06:23] <malt> what is a good mysql manager for ubuntu? thats simple
[06:23] <Lovloss> dabaR: by the way, this is "sattelite television"...
[06:23] <ScreaminIke> know what? haven't tried it on edgy. installing dem., now, so... i'll let you know once it insalls
[06:24] <dabaR> ScreaminIke: let me know what is in your pref'd apps for browser.
[06:24] <sproingie> i'm trying to set postfix up on a dapper server and can't seem to get it to receive
[06:24] <Lovloss> okay we're going to call customer support
[06:24] <Lovloss> thanks guys
[06:24] <Nerd42> how easy (or hard) would it be to setup this game program in linux? http://zsnes.com/
[06:25] <sproingie> should i chown /var/mail to nobody?  it's owned by root right now
[06:26] <sproingie> bah, it doesn't even create the owner for the mail spool file properly
[06:26] <dabaR> !info zsnes
[06:26] <ubotu> zsnes: Emulator of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (TM). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.420-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 513 kB, installed size 3232 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:26] <sproingie> postfix just seems utterly broken out of the box
[06:26] <dabaR> Nerd42: it would involve setting up your sources to include multiverse and installing a package.
[06:27] <ouroboros_> Anyone feel like helping a brother out with a UVC video problem... drivers compile and modprobe fine but no video... and errors in dmesg.
[06:27] <Nerd42> ok then it'd be hard lol
[06:27] <dabaR> that is in the eye of the beholder. to me it would be trivial
[06:27] <suacy> Nerd42: zsnes is the first program i ever compiled on ubuntu, and it went without a hitch
[06:27] <Nerd42> Ya know what the world needs?
[06:27] <Nerd42> A Linux; Media Center Edition
[06:28] <Nerd42> o rly :)
[06:28] <sproingie> aww crap, nevermind.  bloody freakin dns wasn't set up right
[06:28] <Nerd42> what hardware?
[06:28] <Nerd42> i was sayin: there ought to be a distro of linux that makes it easy to play movies and music and games
[06:29] <Nerd42> like, the way edubuntu is intended for schools
[06:29] <__lynX> It's not already easy?
[06:30] <Nerd42> NO
[06:30] <__lynX> Er...
[06:30] <dabaR> Nerd42: nothing will be easy to set up til you learn to install packages...
[06:30] <dennister> ok, found what I think is the problem with the fonts in xorg...xorg7.1 uses wrong path
[06:30] <Nerd42> i'm gonna learn
[06:31] <dennister> now i have to restart x and continue debugging...cya later
[06:31] <dabaR> !repos > Nerd42
[06:31] <dabaR> !synaptic > Nerd42
[06:31] <Nerd42> But I'm not gonna be able to get teh fifty or so n00bs I come in contact with who are always asking me to solve their computer probs to learn
[06:31] <ScreaminIke> if anyone is still interested... it's fixed, whatever the issue is.
[06:32] <dabaR> ScreaminIke: cool
[06:32] <Nerd42> When somebody needs an OS, and doesn't want to have to spend lots of time trying to learn complicated things about computers, I can't say, "Oh, you should get Linux"
[06:32] <Nerd42> Well, I could SAY it
[06:32] <Nerd42> but then I'm stuck helping them with it constantly
[06:33] <Nerd42> with windows its only periodically
[06:33] <Nerd42> The advantage of Windows is that it assumes people are stupid - and many people are.
[06:33] <dabaR> Nerd42: that is an oversimplification
[06:33] <Nerd42> we need a Linux for Stupid People basically
[06:34] <Nerd42> one that doesn't require typing
[06:34] <Nerd42> at prompts and crap
[06:34] <__lynX> We'll hook up little brainwave monitors that read your mind!
[06:34] <Nerd42> I mean, for myself, MS-DOS 6.2 is the best operating system ever
[06:35] <dabaR> Nerd42: we are going that way.  It ran off a floppy disk 2. it had a wide selection of cool games and 3. there was no shutdown command - just flip the switch
[06:35] <jb0nd38372> Someone tell me where I could find "kiba-dock-0.1.tar.bz2"?  The site http://forum.beryl-project.org/post-42243#p4224 is giving a 404
[06:35] <dabaR> jb0nd38372: did you ask google?
[06:35] <Nerd42> well Ubuntu isn't doing that thus far
[06:35] <Nerd42> people want an OS that figures stuff out for them, not an OS they have to figure out
[06:36] <jb0nd38372> yes, google ll refers back to the 404 site, dunno if they crashed or what, was hoping someone might have it locally saved
[06:36] <__lynX> I think that generalization isn't quite accurate
[06:36] <wastrel> Ubunto
[06:36] <Nerd42> ok, add "stupid" to the beginning of it
[06:36] <Nerd42> Proles
[06:36] <metatecque> dabaR - you don't remember when you had to "hdsit" your mfm harddrive
[06:36] <Nerd42> Proletarian Linux (LOL)
[06:36] <TiG4> How do I test if 3d drivers are installed?
[06:37] <jr-gotti> TiG4, run "glxgears"
[06:37] <TiG4> i did
[06:37] <jr-gotti> and the results?
[06:37] <TiG4> but is there a "definitive" way
[06:37] <TiG4> the gears move lolo
[06:37] <jr-gotti> "glxgears -printfps"
[06:37] <jr-gotti> see how many fps your getting..
[06:37] <poolkey172> Hi how do u configure x resoultion from the comand line ?
[06:37] <Lovloss> Okay so here it is: http://www.thaitv.tv/th/Player/iptvch4.htm
[06:37] <TiG4> 4363
[06:38] <Lovloss> How on earth do i find the plugin for it
[06:38] <bradley> is there an app for formatting, renaming external (usb) drives?
[06:38] <jr-gotti> and in "/etc/X11/xorg.cong" what driver is listed under "device"?
[06:38] <jr-gotti> xorg.conf * ...i do that all the time lol
[06:38] <dabaR> metatecque: sorry what?
[06:38] <minerale> I'm having an odd problem in gnome (after doing a dist-upgrade) the windows seem to be stuck "on top" clicking a window does not bring it forward, it simply selects it, I have to manually click the title to bring it on top, what is this ?
[06:38] <poolkey172> jr-gotti : OH
[06:38] <murph2481> how do i create a trash shortcut onto the desktop (not on the toolbar)
[06:38] <poolkey172> jr-gotti : I have a radeon card but my config is for an i845
[06:39] <malt> what is a good mysql manager for ubuntu? thats simple
[06:39] <poolkey172> jr-gotti : do u knowwhat I need to change ? or is there an Xconigurator ?
[06:39] <jr-gotti> thats an ATI card, right?
[06:39] <poolkey172> jr-gotti : bingo
[06:39] <jr-gotti> :/ i've never gotten one of those things to work right lol
[06:40] <poolkey172> duh
[06:40] <wastrel> murph2481:  open the gnome configuration editor  gconf-editor    go to  apps > nautilus > desktop  & check the "trash icon visible" box
[06:40] <jr-gotti> i had to go out and buy an nvidia card
[06:40] <poolkey172> jr-gotti : this is just for basic X
[06:40] <wastrel> that should be a ubotu factoid
[06:40] <bradley> how do i format an external (usb) drive?
[06:40] <poolkey172> jr-gotti : is there anything I can run to check my hardware ?
[06:40] <startswithz> hello I need to print a file but I cannot mount my printer (be gentle extreme newbie)
[06:41] <poolkey172> or do a hardeare scan even ?
[06:41] <jr-gotti> poolkey, "lspci"
[06:41] <poolkey172> yup its there
[06:41] <poolkey172> Radeon 9800pro R350
[06:41] <murph2481> wastrel thank you that worked perfectly
[06:41] <jr-gotti> and there is a "device manager" somewhere in the admistrator menu...but im a fluxbox/command line guy..so i dont know where it is exactly.
[06:41] <wastrel> !cups | startswithz
[06:41] <ubotu> startswithz: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:42] <poolkey172> jr-gotti : I'm pure commanline : talk to me :)
[06:42] <startswithz> thanks
[06:43] <jr-gotti> poolkey172, best way to be ;) have you looked at the wiki pages on Radeons? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[06:44] <wastrel> poolkey172:  you can do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and choose the screen resolutions you want from the menu (there's many steps, but the screen resolution part is in there...)
[06:44] <Spitzfire> is ubuntu same as mozzila
[06:44] <malt> I tryed sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin, and it installed but i couldn't access it by http://siteurl/phpmyadmin/
[06:44] <malt> wonder why?
[06:44] <poolkey172> wastrel : YOU STAR THATS WHAT I want
[06:44] <sproingie> i need a small secure dns server that isn't tinydns.  any suggestions?
[06:45] <klock> question about network interfaces: I have my onboard nic set to eth0, but the power light on the card stays on and leechs battery power. Its not active from ifdown eth0, but it stays on
[06:45] <klock> any idea or command to shut it off?
[06:45] <wastrel> Spitzfire:  ubuntu is a linux distribution - an operating system.  mozilla is a web browser, a program
[06:45] <Spitzfire> i just got the download
[06:46] <Spitzfire> i used deamontools to make a virtual drive for the iso
[06:46] <Spitzfire> it has a exe called start
[06:46] <jr-gotti> Spitzfire, O_o
[06:46] <Spitzfire> and the things in there arelike mozilla etc
[06:47] <dutch> hey, im a little stuck with my nvidia driver install
[06:47] <jr-gotti> poolkey172, be careful...you can easily fubar your X server
[06:47] <Spitzfire> i wonder if i got the right stuff
[06:47] <jr-gotti> Spitzfire, whats going on now? you downloaded mozilla?
[06:47] <Spitzfire> sais i have to burn a cd i want to do dual op systems with vmware
[06:47] <startswithz> why did you download ubuntu spitzfire?
[06:48] <dutch> reading the wiki, it tells me to install a restricted modules package, dependant on which kernel i have isntalled
[06:48] <poolkey172> jr-gotti : xorg.conf is allready foobared as it's aconfig for a differnet machine :)
[06:48] <dutch> but right now, a generic kernel is installed now, not a 386 kernel
[06:48] <jr-gotti> poolkey172, ah! wonderful! haha
[06:48] <poolkey172> lol it works
[06:48] <dutch> anybody know more about nvidia-glx configuration?
[06:48] <dabaR> dutch: aptitude search restricted install the appropriate one
[06:49] <startswithz> try the xgl channel dutch
[06:49] <dutch> dabaR: but which is the appropriate? it already has generic restricted modules installed, but not 386 ones
[06:50] <dabaR> it tells you which is for which
[06:50] <Spitzfire> anyone know how to load this os with vm ware
[06:50] <dutch> startswithz: not xgl, glx, just my card to work
[06:50] <startswithz> yeah I realized I'd made a mistake as soon as I sent it
[06:50] <poolkey172> WOW
[06:50] <startswithz> probably best to just ignore me
[06:51] <poolkey172> grrrr
[06:51] <dutch> dabaR: i already have linux-restricted-modules-generic installed, but the wiki says if i have generic installed, it wont work...is it lying?
[06:51] <poolkey172> my profile doesn;t work I'll fix it in the moring
[06:51] <dabaR> dutch: generic is for 64 bit, 486 is for x86 arch
[06:51] <noiesmo> dutch, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[06:51] <dabaR> dutch: or at least that is what the page says
[06:52] <dutch> dabaR: okay then, hopefully that works
[06:52] <dabaR> dutch: try and let me know
[06:52] <dutch> dabaR: thanks
[06:52] <dabaR> good luck
[06:53] <justin__> where can I find the name of my localhost for a mysql database  on my Ubuntu LAMP server to install gallery2
[06:53] <dutch> dabaR: yeah, running that just tells me: "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic is already the newest version"
[06:53] <dabaR> justin__: show us the tutorial that tells you to do that?
[06:53] <malt> when i installed phpmyadmin, i couldn't access it by url/phpmyadmin/ anyone know what maybe is wrong?
[06:53] <dutch> dabaR: so, iam good?
[06:53] <dabaR> dutch: noiesmo gave you that command, I am still telling you to use the -386 not -generic
[06:53] <Lovloss> II found a patch for Wine and i cant figure out how to instalkl it
[06:53] <justin__> dabaR: i'm installing gallery2 from repos
[06:54] <dutch> dabaR: oh lol alrighty
[06:54] <dabaR> justin__: and yuo need to find out what?
[06:54] <poolkey172> Hmmmm anyone know what the file is called in your home directory that allows u to choose what windows manager for x to run ?
[06:54] <dabaR> poolkey172: .dmrc
[06:54] <justin__> the name or ip of the host running mysql
[06:54] <poolkey172> dabar : no ?
[06:54] <_goofy_> will ubuntu Run on a flash drive
[06:55] <dabaR> justin__: so type in localhost
[06:55] <poolkey172> dabar : I modified something else : like .xstartup maybe ?
[06:55] <Lovloss> _goofy_ my USB drive works fine, but if you mean one of those little sticks i dunno
[06:55] <justin__> k
[06:55] <Lovloss> I believe they can
[06:55] <dutch> dabaR: okay then, running that is installing nvidia-glx and all that good stuff too, so hopefully im cool. thanks for the help
[06:55] <wastrel> _goofy_:  you can boot from a live cd and use the flash drive as your home directory... but it won't really work to run the whole OS from a flash drive
[06:55] <dabaR> dutch: $20
[06:55] <dabaR> poolkey172: ls -a will show you all .files
[06:56] <dutch> dabaR: thats the going rate these days? ;-)
[06:56] <dabaR> dutch: I just have this thing for telling people that when they say thanks, even in person
[06:57] <poolkey172> Hmmmm think theres something wrong with my fluxbox/startup file....
[06:57] <dutch> dabaR: lol, no harm in that. have a good night
[06:57] <poolkey172> away patching
[06:57] <dabaR> dutch: you too thaks
[06:59] <dabaR> !test
[06:59] <ubotu> Failed.
[07:00] <atroWork> wastrel, why can't you run the whole OS from a flash drive? so long as you can get your bios to boot to the flash drive...
[07:00] <justin__> after installing gallery2 on my server with the ubunturepos, how would I get into it from my server? will it be installed in my /www directory?
[07:00] <dabaR> justin__: ls /var/www/
[07:01] <atroWork> justin__, dpkg -L gallery2 will show you where the package installed files
[07:01] <dabaR> !installation > atroWork
[07:01] <justin__> thanks
[07:01] <wastrel> atroWork:  i gather from watching ppl talk about it in this chan that flash has a limited number of write cycles & installing onto it would burn through most/all of them
[07:01] <poolkey172> damn it fluxbox aint workin
[07:01] <wastrel> wouldn't be surprised if i'm completely wrong.
[07:02] <metatecque> !livebuild
[07:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about livebuild - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <dabaR> metatecque: what do you want to know?
[07:04] <atroWork> wastrel, yeah, flash's lifespan is much more limited than a HDD, but there's no reason you can't install ubuntu on it. Just won't last as long ;)
[07:05] <gpled> is their a problem with installing java in firefox on amd64 system?
[07:05] <jbroome> yes, it doesn't exist
[07:06] <dabaR> gpled: there is a section about it in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[07:07] <justin__> will gallery2 work right away when it's installed from teh repos? i have really no clue what im doing heh
[07:07] <gpled> is their an easy way to install 32firefox on amd64 6.10 system?
[07:08] <Weyoon> Can anyone help me get sound working on my laptop in ubuntu desktop 6.10?
[07:08] <justin__> nvm i got it
[07:08] <justin__> thanks for the help
[07:09] <dabaR> gpled: it also shows a section about that in the link I gave you.
[07:10] <Weyoon> dmesg shows "ALI 5451: probe of 000:00:08.0 failed with error -16"
[07:10] <AnthonyG> Bah , The Smart Link drivers aren't working.
[07:10] <dabaR> maybe they aren't so smart after all
[07:10] <haxality> hello
[07:10] <AnthonyG> dabaR: Indeed XD
[07:10] <haxality> I forgot.. what's the command to view images from the terminal?
[07:10] <haxality> assuming X is running, of course :P
[07:11] <dabaR> haxality: try gthumb
[07:11] <AnthonyG> Might someone suggest a proper driver for an AgereSystems PCI 56K SoftModem (V.92)?
[07:11] <haxality> that works, but I was wondering if maybe something slightly lighter-weight existed
[07:11] <poolkey172> SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[07:11] <metatecque> dabaR: I am kinda fiddeling around with my system - just started re-developing it today - I got googleearth to work
[07:11] <Madpilot> poolkey172, enough
[07:12] <poolkey172> I just installed bootchart and it wiped my initrd .... soz madpilot
[07:12] <dabaR> haxality: try eog
[07:12] <haxality> ah perfect
[07:12] <haxality> thx dabaR
[07:12] <haxality> :)
[07:13] <dabaR> ;-*
[07:13] <einfeldt> hi,
[07:13] <einfeldt> oops
[07:14] <einfeldt> hi, does anyone know if it is possible to get a new IP address in Ubunut using rcnetwork restart as in SuSE Linux
[07:14] <jbroome> it would be /etc/init.d/network restart in ubuntu
[07:14] <dabaR> einfeldt: try sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart
[07:15] <einfeldt> jbroome, do you type that full path?
[07:15] <dabaR> einfeldt: you would have to, yes
[07:15] <jbroome> yeah, and you need to be root or use sudo in front
[07:16] <dabaR> jbroome: there is no network, it is called networking, afaik
[07:16] <justin__> where can i change the php memory limit for gallery2?
[07:16] <einfeldt> oh
[07:16] <einfeldt> under suse, the command is simply rcnetwork restart
[07:16] <Yggdrasil> how can i change the splash screen that comes up after i login ? and how can i change the bootup screen.. that shows in frame buffer ?
[07:16] <dabaR> justin__: /etc/php/php.ini, or so.
[07:17] <dabaR> !splash
[07:17] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[07:17] <dabaR> !usplash
[07:17] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before the login screen appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[07:17] <Yggdrasil> excelent thanks
[07:17] <jbroome> dabaR: right.  sorry, tab-complete has spoiled me
[07:17] <slowz3r> can someone help me install networkmanager .6 ??
[07:18] <cafuego> justin_:/etc/php{4,5}/<apache(2)/php.ini
[07:18] <justin__> where can i change the php memory limit for gallery2 'php.ini'
[07:18] <justin__> thanks
[07:18] <cafuego> justin_: Betetr still add a .htaccess
[07:18] <dabaR> !network-manager > slowz3r
[07:18] <justin__> it also told me to do that too heh
[07:19] <cafuego> echo "php_value memory_limit 16M" >> .htaccess
[07:19] <cafuego> justin__ You need either or, not both.
[07:19] <justin__> oh
[07:19] <metatecque> ok, here is a question - my sound card doesn't work it is a SIS 7012 - how do I fix that??
[07:19] <justin__> k i'll make the htaccess thing
[07:19] <Euphidime> Could someone tell me if it's currently possible to access files on my NTFS partition in an emulated Windows program? (Using Wine) I'm trying to get a game working, and I want to be able to launch my existing installation instead of reinstalling on Linux :/
[07:19] <justin__> thanks
[07:19] <cafuego> Just make sure AllowOverride All is set, so .htaccess works :-)
[07:19] <slowz3r> Can someone help me install the newest version of network manager please...the .6
[07:19] <crimsun> metatecque: it's just a mixer setting issues. Pastebin ``amixer''
[07:19] <justin__> just did that recently too heh, thanks anyway!
[07:20] <crimsun> metatecque: (then tell me the URL, of course)
[07:20] <iBashUsr> hey...
[07:20] <cafuego> Euphidime: Only read-only, and required system DLLs and registry entries won't be accessible, so i doubt it'll work.
[07:20] <iBashUsr> how can you turn off the SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.2p1 Debian-7ubuntu3.1 identification on the SSH port?
[07:20] <DARKGuy> Hey! anybody here has a dual monitor setup? I wonder if I can avoid xfdesktop to duplicate icons on both monitors?
[07:20] <Euphidime> cafuego: Even if I have the partition mounted with writep rivs?
[07:20] <iBashUsr> i don't to be announcing to everyone i got Debian or ubuntu so they can find exploits on it
[07:21] <cafuego> Euphidime: Then I expect you're going to be destroying half the filesystem.
[07:21] <dabaR> !xinerama > DARKGuy
[07:21] <Euphidime> cafuego: I'm using that ntfs-3g thing :/
[07:22] <b3tzi> hello
[07:22] <phpnuborn> any netgear router experts here? in mine it has a Attached Devices menu choice.. i have 2 devices.. a win-xp pc and a ubuntu pc.. the win pc shows an ip address, "computer name", and mac address..  but the ubuntu pc has no "computer name" any idea why?   or how to get ubuntu pc to give the netgear router its computer name..  ?
[07:22] <DARKGuy> dabaR: I'd use Xinerama if it was compatible with XrandR, but since I play games on it too and test stuff with WINE, sometimes it gets a lower virtual res of 800x600 or 640x480 and I can't go back to 1024x768 on the primary monitor without restarting the X server - unless you know an alternative way to fix that :)?
[07:23] <Euphidime> cafuego: I was under the impression that ntfs-3g wasn't unstable. Is that incorrect?
[07:23] <cafuego> Euphidime: To be honest, I don't know. I don't even consider NTFS in WinXP to be stable, so ymmv with non-MS software.
[07:24] <justin__> where would the gallery2 main directory be in? /etc/share/gallery2?
[07:24] <HermanDE> Gawd.....
[07:24] <cafuego> justin__: /usr/share/gallery2 probably.
[07:24] <akant2> Has anyone built iFolder on Dapper?
[07:24] <akant2> client
[07:24] <justin__> k thanks
[07:24] <dabaR> phpnuborn: is it the same computer name the windows computer shows as its computer name in System Properties> computer name?
[07:24] <racarr> Euphidime: ntfs-3g is relatively usable, but it's still considered 'beta'
[07:24] <akant2> I have a configure question
[07:25] <wastrel> what's ifolder
[07:25] <akant2> iFolder is project that Novell/Suse open sourced earlier this year which allows your folders to follow you between machines
[07:25] <akant2> a shared folder on crack
[07:25] <akant2> and encryption
[07:25] <Spitzfire> just got this os to some what work
[07:26] <AnthonyG> BAH!!!
[07:26] <Spitzfire> in .iso mode slow as hell
[07:26] <cafuego> Spitzfire: Yah, running off a CD is slow at the best of times.
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> Is 'sudo crontab -e' valid in principle?
[07:27] <Spitzfire> its on vmware
[07:27] <Spitzfire> probably slower
[07:27] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Yes, opens root's crontab.
[07:27] <cafuego> Spitzfire: OUCH
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: Hrm..then my problem lies elsewhere.
[07:27] <Spitzfire> mybe check the heat on my pc soon!!
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: Something isn't running right and I'm not sure where in the process it is
[07:28] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: the cron entry? How about path or env vars?
[07:28] <phpnuborn> dabaR, yes
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: I don't think there are any env vars, and the command portion of the cron entry is fine at least.  Five fields sections is */10 * * * *
[07:29] <gouki> Guys, I'm interested on adding partman-crypto module to the current dapper drake installer. Can anyone point me on the right direction?
[07:29] <cafuego> so every 10 minutes
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> yes
[07:30] <dabaR> phpnuborn: it is then the netbios name. Ubuntu does not use that protocol. I can only think of setting up samba on your computer and that may then show a name in your netgear. IMO that is more trouble than worth(although it is fairly simple to set up samba for that).
[07:30] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: and the command executes fine when run as root from cmdline?
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: yes
[07:31] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: is it an X app?
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: No.  bash and perl scripts.
[07:31] <cafuego> hmm.
[07:31] <phpnuborn> samba is already on this  'virtual machine' image.. my windows xp computer sees the ubuntu computer..
[07:32] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Start the command set 'set -x' so that you get an email from cron.
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: done
[07:32] <dabaR> phpnuborn: I do not know of a way to fix it, but think that is the cause
[07:32] <phpnuborn> so how do i get samba to use netbios...?
[07:32] <phpnuborn> ok..
[07:32] <cafuego> phpnuborn: Not. You don't *want* netbios.
[07:33] <phpnuborn> so basically a netbios issue in the ubuntu computer
[07:33] <phpnuborn> ok..
[07:34] <justin__> can I cut and paste the main gallery2 folder into another directory?
[07:34] <_goofy_> does the server version have a gui
[07:35] <_goofy_> pre installed
[07:35] <justin__> yeah i just run the install through my browser
[07:36] <akant2> Any idea how I can get "gdk-2.0" installed on Dapper?
[07:36] <akant2> is there a package for this?
[07:37] <phpnuborn> woah..   netsplit!
[07:37] <jazzrocker> how do i force apt to use a particular repo?
[07:38] <jazzrocker> i added a repo with a more recent version than the "standard repos"
[07:38] <jazzrocker> and yes i'm aware this is a little risky
[07:38] <hupp3l> hey, Does the bcm43xx driver work with 64bit?
[07:39] <Calvin18> Shadowpillar_: haha i have a core 2 sitting beside me.. just trying to get my old P3 running
[07:39] <Shadowpillar_> ah
[07:40] <cafuego> phpnuborn: netbios is broken. badly. Fix up windows to use TCP/IP.
[07:40] <cafuego> phpnuborn: broken by design, by MS that is. Not on Linux ;-)
[07:40] <Shadowpillar_> I was using ubuntu on a PII @ 400 mhz
[07:40] <hupp3l> Hey sorry guys but does bcm43xx driver work on ubuntu 64bit?
[07:40] <Bacta> is there a way to reclaim some space from my ubuntu partition and bring it back to windows?
[07:40] <Shadowpillar_> Calvin18: how much ram?
[07:40] <__lynX> Ow.
[07:40] <Calvin18> 192mb on the p3
[07:40] <ArrenLex> Calvin18: if you're trying to make an old computer useful, I'd recommend Damn Small Linux, Feather Linux or Vector Linux, rather than ubuntu.
[07:40] <Calvin18> 2gb on the core2
[07:40] <cafuego> yah
[07:40] <xen> Anyone know what dictionary Gaim uses, and where it puts entries that I add?
[07:40] <cafuego> hupp3l: Yes, but you need the firmware.
[07:40] <poolkey172> ArrenLex : I installed windows on 1 raid controller and ubuntu on the other raid controller : basically I had to build ubuntu by hand (tediously) it kept failing so I ended up porting ubuntu from a different machine and configuring the kernel and grub
[07:40] <Shadowpillar_> Calvin18: I'd suggest upping the ram to 256
[07:41] <Bacta> is there a way to reclaim some space from my ubuntu partition and bring it back to windows?
[07:41] <hupp3l> cafuego, i installed the firmware and it finds my network but it just cant connect
[07:41] <justin__> where can i find the url rewrite module?
[07:41] <cjonesy> xubuntu could work for an older cpu as well
[07:41] <ArrenLex> poolkey172: so no "sudo /sbin/makemysystembootin20seconds.sh"? = /
[07:41] <cafuego> justin__: 'sudo a2enmod'
[07:41] <poolkey172> ArrenLex : I wish
[07:41] <Calvin18> Shadowpillar_: i will try and play around and see what i can do
[07:41] <poolkey172> ArrenLex : I installed windows on 1 raid controller and ubuntu on the other raid controller : basically I had to build ubuntu by hand (tediously) it kept failing so I ended up porting ubuntu from a different machine and configuring the kernel and grub
[07:41] <hupp3l> It looks like it is about to connect but gives connection failed
[07:42] <poolkey172> ArrenLex : I think if I write a howto it'll take the average joe about 45 mins to port a remote or local ubuntu install to RAID0
[07:42] <Shadowpillar_> Calvin18: ubuntu runs best at least with 256mb
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: I suppose it helps if I have mail installed eh?
[07:42] <Shadowpillar_> any less and you'll get major slowdowns
[07:42] <Calvin18> btw is there a way for other people to get into my wep wireless if i dun have any clients connected?
[07:42] <Shadowpillar_> Calvin18: my second suggestion is to run xubuntu
[07:43] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: JUst a bit yes. 'mailx' I think is what you want.
[07:44] <justin__> where can i deactive and activate the url rewrite module? should of asked that, sorry.
[07:44] <dabaR> xen: I found /usr/lib/gaim/spellchk.so but not sure that is it
[07:44] <dawkirst> Waar is ek?
[07:44] <xen> dabaR, I suspect that's the spellchecking module...
[07:44] <hupp3l> by ubuntu dawkirst
[07:45] <Calvin18> can i dun do an reinstaller to use xubuntu? isn't that just installing xfce and making it the default WM?
[07:46] <Calvin18> *reinstall
[07:46] <dabaR> xen: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/gaim mentions aspell
[07:46] <Madpilot> Calvin18, install xubuntu-desktop
[07:47] <Calvin18> and how do i switch the desktop?
[07:47] <Shadowpillar_> Calvin18: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:47] <poolkey172> anyone know where the ethernet -> eth mappings are ?
[07:47] <hupp3l> does anyone have experiance with the bcm43xx native driver and ubuntu that can help me out please
[07:47] <Shadowpillar_> GDM
[07:47] <unfo> hupp3l, just ask your question :)
[07:47] <unfo> if someone knows, they'll answer.
[07:48] <unfo> poolkey172, try #ubuntu-server
[07:48] <peshalto> Hi all. I want the convenience and polish of a desktop, but also want to develop and play with server stuff. Should I install desktop ubuntu, or server ubuntu?
[07:48] <poolkey172> dont worry I've worked it out
[07:48] <unfo> peshalto, install ubuntu server. Then: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:48] <unfo> That will install the desktop packages as well.
[07:48] <ArrenLex> peshalto: you can install any packages you want on an ubuntu system... ubuntu server just comes with different ones by default.
[07:48] <justin__> how can i deactive and activate the url rewrite module?
[07:48] <peshalto> heh, that must be a faq, right?
[07:49] <peshalto> excellent, thanks.
[07:49] <unfo> peshalto, no problem :)
[07:49] <Madpilot> peshalto, if you just want  to run Apache & such, those will run just fine on a desktop install
[07:49] <dabaR> peshalto: install desktop ubuntu
[07:50] <peshalto> ok, getting differing advice here..
[07:50] <hupp3l> I am on ubuntu 64bit with a bcm43xx card, I have the firmware extracted and it finds my network and I have the right stuff in but it says connection failed
[07:50] <ArrenLex> peshalto: okay, hold on. Describe in more detail the system you want.
[07:50] <peshalto> ok
[07:50] <justin__> how can i deactive and activate the url rewrite module?
[07:51] <Empiric> how i create software
[07:51] <Empiric> in ubuntu during install
[07:51] <peshalto> in the past some of my pain with linux has been it's hard to get basic stuff to work sometimes, like audio.
[07:51] <unfo> Empiric, what do you want to create?
[07:51] <Empiric> any idea?
[07:51] <Empiric> i have 2 sata disk
[07:51] <Empiric> i want to do software raid
[07:51] <peshalto> but also I like to play with different languages, databases, tools... and also want security... want it all, basically.
[07:51] <ArrenLex> peshalto: ubuntu desktop should set you up with that, or you can just apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils to get the same effect.
[07:51] <peshalto> but don't need high performance
[07:51] <keeganX> Anyone know a good guide for setting up mpd and gmpc?
[07:52] <dabaR> peshalto: install the desktop version
[07:52] <LaserLine> When I try to enable the nvidia-glx-config I get the following error: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[07:52] <peshalto> ArrenLex: set me up with that, "that" being which part?
[07:52] <Empiric> but theres no option of creating software raid ?
[07:52] <LaserLine> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[07:52] <ArrenLex> peshalto: with audio
[07:52] <Empiric> during installation
[07:52] <poolkey172> Empiric : How brave are you ?
[07:52] <peshalto> ok
[07:52] <peshalto> dabaR: ok
[07:52] <xen> dabaR, thanks for that
[07:52] <ArrenLex> LaserLine: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[07:53] <dabaR> LaserLine: did you install the restricted kernel modules?
[07:53] <Empiric> what u mean
[07:53] <justin__> how can i deactive and activate the url rewrite module?
[07:53] <CzarAlex> i appear to have some missing disk space on my drive. according to df, its 98% full but I dont have anything on it (that I put there) to fill it anywhere near that. What steps should I take to track this down? My log files all seem smal (nothing over 300K). Do I need to forcefully empty my trash? If so, how? What else do you suggest?
[07:53] <peshalto> actually i have disks to play with, so if i'm not happy with it, it's just wipe-n-go
[07:53] <dabaR> CzarAlex: check ~/.Trash
[07:53] <xen> dabaR, I found it, it was a text file called .aspell.en.pws ... I don't know the meaning of the last three letters, but that's where the custom additions appear to go.
[07:53] <poolkey172> Empiric : I've just finished my Psuedo Hardware RAID0 install : It's taken 12 hours solid
[07:53] <dabaR> xen: pws or swp?
[07:53] <peshalto> another question: from Ubuntu can I read NTFS partitions on a SATA RAID1 array?
[07:53] <Empiric> its hardware raid i wont have hardware raid
[07:53] <unfo> Empiric, I don't use RAID, because I don't need it. :-)
[07:54] <unfo> CzarAlex, try xdiskusage
[07:54] <unfo> but I bet it's hidden files/dirs.
[07:54] <LaserLine> ArrenLex and dabaR: I did that and it said apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) and tried it agian and got the same error
[07:54] <dabaR> I bet it's .Trash
[07:55] <poolkey172> peshalto : good question : you should be able to but it depends on your raid controller I have 2 raid controllers the via vt8xxxx and sil3512 the sil is linux friends whereas the VIA is not
[07:55] <CzarAlex> dabaR, How do I forcefully empty that via the command line?
[07:55] <justin__> how can i deactive and activate the url rewrite module? PLEASE help me =(
[07:55] <xen> dabaR, .pws...
[07:55] <poolkey172> so I installed windows on the VIA controller
[07:55] <dabaR> LaserLine: aptitude search restricted, post output to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:55] <unfo> justin__, I don't know. Try Google. If not, you need a good book.
[07:55] <dabaR> CzarAlex: rm -rf .Trash/*
[07:55] <xen> dabaR, .swp would make me thing "swap"...not exactly accurate, but semi-sensible...
[07:56] <dabaR> xen: meh, good work on finding it
[07:56] <CzarAlex> says that path is not found.
[07:56] <xen> dabaR, thanks, and thanks for the aspell tip.
[07:57] <LaserLine> dabaR: it said linux=restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic is already the newest version
[07:57] <dabaR> CzarAlex: rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
[07:57] <dabaR> LaserLine: install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-386
[07:57] <peshalto> Can I read and write my windows NTFS filesystem from inside an Ubuntu session?
[07:58] <ArrenLex> !ntfs-3g
[07:58] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[07:59] <Yggdrasil> can i ahve that usplsh link again.. ?
[07:59] <dabaR> Yggdrasil: /msg ubotu usplash
[07:59] <Yggdrasil> thnks
[07:59] <CzarAlex> dabaR, no change. 98% full
[08:00] <dabaR> CzarAlex: it comes down to you hunting it down, then
[08:00] <poolkey172> would have saved me a lot of trouble :rollseyes:
[08:00] <unfo> CzarAlex, xdiskusage /
[08:00] <CzarAlex> unfo installing it now.
[08:01] <unfo> good. it's the best disk-space tracking utility there is. use the cursor keys to zoom in.
[08:01] <TiG4> **-- Does anyone know how to make a vncserver connect to a listening client?
[08:01] <dabaR> hehe
[08:02] <poolkey172> tig4 : vncviewer ip:0
[08:02] <unfo> TiG4, I've done it before, but I've forgotten how.
[08:02] <dabaR> make a server connect to a client?
[08:02] <TiG4> poolkey172, no that wont work
[08:02] <TiG4> yeah its possible
[08:02] <TiG4> its a backwards connection
[08:02] <TiG4> ah i found it
[08:02] <poolkey172> tig4 : vncviewer ip then
[08:02] <dabaR> show me
[08:02] <TiG4> http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2004-November/048229.html\
[08:02] <TiG4> http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2004-November/048229.html
[08:03] <peshalto> can i read my reiser filesystem partition from an ubuntu session?
[08:03] <dabaR> thanks
[08:03] <unfo> peshalto, did you try to mount it?
[08:03] <unfo> use the mount command.
[08:04] <poolkey172> tig4 : u want the port number or something ? its 5900
[08:04] <peshalto> unfo: i haven't installed ubuntu yet... mulling my options.
[08:04] <unfo> peshalto, try the livecd :)
[08:04] <TiG4> no
[08:04] <TiG4> nevermind
[08:04] <TiG4> you dont understand the question
[08:04] <TiG4> thanks ne ways
[08:04] <peshalto> unfo: ah, nice idea
[08:04] <poolkey172> tig4 : sorrt mate
[08:04] <poolkey172> tig4 : I'm tired
[08:05] <peshalto> will do
[08:05] <_ph00> woah
[08:05] <_ph00> 859 users...
[08:05] <_ph00> ok
[08:06] <poolkey172> 858
[08:06] <unfo> _ph00, so make sure not to overuse the Enter key :)
[08:06] <dabaR> not that it is busy..
[08:06] <peshalto> does "LTS" (long term support) mean jack for people who don't pay? does it also mean that's how long (free) security patches are issued for?
[08:06] <peshalto> or is it only of relevance to those who pay for support?
[08:06] <dabaR> peshalto: no, yes.
[08:07] <yyx> ?
[08:07] <peshalto> wondering about 6.10 vs. 6.06
[08:07] <Ae01> hi, everybody
[08:07] <Ae01> I need some help
[08:07] <dabaR> !cn
[08:07] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[08:07] <poolkey172> when is ubuntu going to start charging ? I see lots of ppl rushing to get 6.06 installed
[08:07] <jimboedgynoob> lts has a 3 year support I think
[08:07] <Ae01> I have more than one user in computer
[08:08] <_ph00> I'm trying to generate a keypair using gps (a gui for gpg) but it gets stuck. It shows the 'you don't have a private key' message, but when I click on 'generate now' (or 'do that later' no difference) it gets stuck, and cpu usage goes up to 100% and stays there. I waaited up to ~10 minutes before killing it
[08:08] <cwraig> hi all
[08:08] <startswithz> what is the hotkey to switch desktops?  Is there one?
[08:08] <yyx>
[08:08] <Ae01> I want to shutdawn and restart.
[08:08] <dabaR> !cn | yyx
[08:08] <ubotu> yyx: For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[08:08] <_ph00> (if somone helped me generate some keypairs from the gpg terminal interface (in private) that would do
[08:08] <yyx> ph,thx
[08:09] <poolkey172> _ph00 can u strace -p the process to see where it hangs ?
[08:09] <cwraig> start- ctrl+alt left and right keys
[08:09] <yyx> thanks
[08:09] <Ae01> Shutdown and Restart button disappear.
[08:09] <cafuego> _ph00: gpg --gen-key
[08:09] <_ph00> poolkey172; how exactly do I do that?
[08:09] <cwraig> start - that works for me but ive got xgl installed
[08:09] <poolkey172> #
[08:09] <_ph00> cafuego; ok
[08:09] <startswithz> yeah that works thanks
[08:10] <poolkey172> _ph00 the same way u killed the process : strace -p pid
[08:10] <cafuego> _ph00: it's just follow-the-commands from there on it :-)
[08:10] <cwraig> i need someone to help me with some xdmcp gdm stuff
[08:10] <_ph00> no, I killed the proces with a panel thinghy (kill missbehaving app, or something)
[08:10] <poolkey172> _ph00 oh ic
[08:11] <_ph00> poolkey172, cafuego OK, after all, I only need to generate 3 keypairs, the terminal interface will do. I'll be back if I have more problems, thx
[08:12] <poolkey172> Anyone know how to submit a HOWTO ?
[08:12] <peshalto> someone mentioned 'livecd'
[08:13] <_ph00> hehe
[08:13] <peshalto> anyone know where to download a livecd iso?
[08:13] <peshalto> the usual download pages don't seem to have it
[08:13] <dabaR> peshalto: it is called desktop
[08:14] <peshalto> dabaR: ah, good trick, thanks
[08:14] <_ph00> now that is nothing short of absurd: I'm trying to generate a key for my 'real world' me, and my forst name has 4 letters (Luke) but gpg says it must be at least 5. I guess I could use the 'license version' Lucas, but no one calls me that
[08:14] <dabaR> poolkey172: for what?
[08:15] <_ph00> how do I force it to accept a 4 letters name? (
[08:15] <poolkey172> dabar : Installing ubuntu onto SATA RAID the easy way
[08:15] <dabaR> poolkey172: use the forum or wiki
[08:15] <poolkey172> dabar : will do
[08:16] <poolkey172> dabar : I'm concerned with the quality of ubuntu HOWTOs btw
[08:16] <vader> is EasyUbuntu ready for Edgy yet?
[08:16] <Madpilot> _ph00, use your full name?
[08:17] <poolkey172> dabar : some of them are so out of date or are very version specific
[08:17] <_ph00> yes, OK, Lucas would do, but I wanted to use Luke
[08:17] <Madpilot> poolkey172, anyone can edit the Ubuntu wikis, and joining the Ubuntu Docteam is also easy
[08:18] <_ph00> (that is: "first" name must be at least 5 letters)
[08:18] <poolkey172> madpilot ok : think I should start contributing again... aint written any opensource in years
[08:18] <LaserLine> dabar:  I installed what you said but i'm still getting the Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel. when i try to sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:19] <Madpilot> poolkey172, #ubuntu-doc is the DocTeam's IRC channel - most of the action is on the mailing list, though
[08:20] <poolkey172> thanks madpilot : I'll take a look ps how do I list all the channels on this server my IRC skills are 10 yrs outa date :)
[08:21] <Madpilot> poolkey172, depends on which IRC client you're running
[08:21] <racarr> !pastebin
[08:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:21] <poolkey172> madpilot : konversation
[08:21] <fek> moin
[08:22] <poolkey172> madpilot : but getting channel list is a server command and hence independent of whatever irc client u use
[08:22] <poolkey172> guessed it : /list
[08:24] <LaserLine> how does modprobe work?
[08:24] <marlun> What package will I have to install (ubuntu) to be able to read man pages of c/c++ functions like opendir()?
[08:25] <Jordan_U> vader: AFIK yes.
[08:25] <vader> Jordan_U, do you have a link for the how to?
[08:25] <dabaR> marlun: manpages-dev
[08:26] <dogfood2006> is that a package dabar
[08:26] <vader> been googling for a while on that one is the reason I ask
[08:26] <dabaR> yes
[08:26] <phpnuborn> isn't ubuntu suppose to be an easy *nix distro compared to most others?
[08:26] <marlun> dabaR, thanks!
[08:26] <dabaR> ;)
[08:26] <Jordan_U> vader: nvm, just checked the page and it says "The 3.022 release supports:
[08:26] <Jordan_U>     * Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu
[08:26] <Jordan_U>     * Breezy/Dapper
[08:26] <Jordan_U>     * x86/powerpc/amd64
[08:26] <Jordan_U> " :(
[08:26] <vader> ty Jordan_U
[08:26] <dogfood2006> I wouldn't tell yourself things are eas
[08:27] <dogfood2006> easy
[08:27] <poolkey172> phpnuborn : for plain desktop I think its one of the best out there ,,,, but thats its downfall too
[08:27] <dogfood2006> You'll shoot tourself in the foot and cause frustration when things don't go well.  I entered Luke as 'name' but what the interface meant was *first-and-Last name* not one name each line. OK, I guess I'm good now
[08:30] <vader> Jordan_U, ?
[08:30] <Flannel> !easubuntu | vader
[08:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:30] <Flannel> !easyubuntu | vader
[08:30] <ubotu> vader: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[08:30] <stopgo> This is perhaps more of a xen question than an ubuntu one, but the xenites haven't been very talkative and I'm hoping someone in here has struggled through this:
[08:30] <Bikerwade> good morning
[08:30] <Flannel> that website/channel can tell you everything you need to know vader.
[08:30] <Jordan_U> vader: The things easyubuntu does really aren't that hard to do yourself, really
[08:30] <stopgo> When I try to create a domU, I get "Error: Device 0 (vif) could not be connected. Hotplug scripts not working." /var/log/xen-hotplug.log is full of ERROR 53: bad trap. I'm running Ubuntu Edgy, built my own kernel from the 3.03 source. I've read that this problem is caused by the scripts in /etc/xen/scripts beginning with #!/bin/sh instead of bash, but I switched them to bash and still have the same trouble.
[08:31] <poolkey172> COool I like it : easyubuntu is like automatix
[08:31] <Flannel> stopgo: you sure you got all of them?
[08:31] <stopgo> flannel: grep tells me so
[08:32] <stopgo> I've also linked /bin/sh to /bin/bash, so if bashisms in the scripts are the problem, my default shell should be bash now
[08:32] <poolkey172> stopgo : thats a very bad idea
[08:33] <vader> Jordan_U, I know but ummmm I work 60 - 80 hours a week, I need the easy way out on a lot of things lol
[08:33] <Bikerwade> I'm having trouble... my add/remove programs won't start....
[08:33] <stopgo> poolkey172: edgy has a lot depending on dash?
[08:33] <poolkey172> #!/bin/sh is used at boot time (a lot)
[08:34] <stopgo> poolkey172: i see. i guess i'll change it back.
[08:34] <poolkey172> stopgo : #!/bin/sh shouldnt be messed with buddy : change it back : yup
[08:35] <mordof> alright.. i forget how to untar stuff, lol
[08:35] <poolkey172> if u want your default shell to be bash just stick it in /etc/passwd
[08:35] <mordof> haven't used ubuntu in a long time
[08:35] <Jordan_U> stopgo: If there are any bashisms in any program / script you should file a bug report
[08:35] <Jordan_U> !tar | mordof
[08:35] <ubotu> mordof: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde) - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[08:36] <Bikerwade> does anyone recognize this problem? i get the "serching for installed/avakiable components" windows, the progress bar stops at some 30%, then it shuts down/dissapears
[08:37] <mordof> Jordan_U: ty
[08:37] <stopgo> jordan_u: ok, i'll check to see if one's already been filed or not
[08:37] <LaserLine> I'm experiencing aproblem with nvidia-glx that has been filed as a bug... they say the fix is to use n-g-c using modprobe -i... how do i do that?
[08:39] <mabreaux> how do you install apps to a palm from ubuntu?
[08:39] <VoX> anyone know why i have to re-install the nvidia binary drivers whenever i restart?
[08:40] <TheDebugger> VoX: If you could explain your problem a bit better...
[08:40] <poolkey172> vox : maybe u need to update grub
[08:41] <Bikerwade> I'm having trouble... my add/remove programs won't start....
[08:41] <Bikerwade> does anyone recognize this problem? i get the "serching for installed/avakiable components" windows, the progress bar stops at some 30%, then it shuts down/dissapears
[08:41] <poolkey172> vox : if u've updated initrd via loading new drivers then grub will need to be updated
[08:41] <VoX> TheDebugger: whenever i restart my computer, ubuntu boots, tries to start x(gdm), then falls over, and i have to re-install the nvidia binary drivers
[08:42] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Does Synaptic work?
[08:43] <TheDebugger> VoX: Do you know the error?
[08:43] <dm_> Hello. How do I set the time manually? (chrony is running but time difference seems to be too big)
[08:43] <VoX> TheDebugger: cannot load libGL.so - file not found
[08:43] <mordof> wow.. i'm so noobish with ubuntu :( not even fun, lol.. so i got the 915resolution thingy, and i'm following the readme to install it, however the make - make install thing isn't working.. not sure why.. (there's no "Make" or w/e in the folder)
[08:44] <Bikerwade> Jordan_l: what/how ? ..very new to all this...
[08:44] <TheDebugger> mordof:  There's a package manager you know...
[08:44] <mabreaux> how do you install apps to a palm from ubuntu?
[08:44] <mordof> TheDebugger: ah, right.. forgot. sorry :S it's been a long time
[08:44] <TheDebugger> ubuntu doesn't come with development tools installed
[08:45] <fysaen> morning...
[08:45] <Jordan_U> TheDebugger: And that is a good thing IMHO
[08:45] <TheDebugger> Jordan_U:  For the casual/normal user, yes :)
[08:45] <mordof> is there any way to get rid of the "so and so joined #ubuntu"?
[08:45] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: what/how ? ..very new to all this...
[08:45] <clearzen> How can I specify the subnet and gateway for dhcp on a interface?
[08:46] <Madpilot> mordof, in XChat, yes. Other IRC apps, probably
[08:46] <mordof> Madpilot: i'm on irssi
[08:47] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: People who don't know about the package manager often download the tar.gz, read the instructions and when they come here asking why the "make" thingy didn't work we tell them to use apt instead :)
[08:48] <clearzen> I want to enable dhcp on a interface used for DMZ. It has a non standard gateway/subnet. Can I still use dhcp and tell the interface to use a gateway other than <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:48] <Flannel> mordof: /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[08:49] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: ok, well, i havent..  i just used the function add/remove programs, witch been working fine, till now...
[08:49] <mordof> Flannel: ty :)
[08:50] <mordof> brb, restarting
[08:50] <dm_> Which command must I run to sync system time once with an ntp server?
[08:50] <tripppy> is there a list of supported USB digtal tv decoder's ? ubuntu or *nix ?
[08:51] <Flannel> dm_: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com  (you may need to kill other NTP clients running)
[08:52] <dm_> Flannel: Thanks, I'll try ...
[08:53] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: That is what you should do, just some people think Linux = Windows - viruses so they google for applications and try to find the installer... which always leads to pain :)
[08:53] <Copan> Can anyone help me fix my audio problem in ubuntu? The laptop speakers I have aren't working properly, or the sound card isn't being applied!?! Please reply. thanks
[08:54] <Copan> Can anyone help me fix my audio problem in ubuntu? The laptop speakers I have aren't working properly, or the sound card isn't being applied!?! Please reply. thanks
[08:55] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: been there, done that..  ehrrm.. so what do i do about the app not starting for me?
[08:55] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: I'm thinking :)
[08:56] <stopgo> copan: it's not necessarily a simple problem. you should articulate what problems you are having exactly. also, what kind of sound card you're using
[08:57] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: run "alacarte"
[08:57] <Copan> stopgo: i'm using an ATI sound card, and the sound card doesn't seem to work with the software in ubuntu
[08:57] <Copan> it says I may need an GSStreamer
[08:57] <ArrenLex> Copan: an ATI WHAT?!
[08:58] <Copan> sorry.. :) 1 second
[08:58] <Copan> IXP150 AC'97 audio controller?
[08:58] <mordof> alright.. i know somebody just told me how to stop the joins (and it worked).. but i forgot to write it down and i restarted before i got a chance to..
[08:58] <mordof> if you could tell me again please, it'd be much appreciated and i'll write it down right away, heh
[08:58] <AndyR> lo all
[08:59] <ArrenLex> Copan: and #apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-oss doesn't make it work?
[08:59] <Copan> ArrenLex: I will try that... command? i'm not familiar with linux
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Copan: yep, that's a command.
[09:00] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: ok, how/where...? *feeling very lost*
[09:00] <ArrenLex> "sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-oss"
[09:00] <Copan> my account has sudo?
[09:00] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: press alt+ F2 and run "alacarte" I can't find it in the menu's either, I was hoping you could :)
[09:00] <ArrenLex> Copan: if you're running ubuntu, yes.
[09:00] <Copan> it has sudo permissions already
[09:01] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: I hardly ever use the menus any more :)
[09:01] <kray^er> hello. i was wondering if ubuntu supports mirroring scsi drivers like the way with dynamic disks under windows. i have an older scsi controller that does not have raid hrdware support. thank you
[09:01] <TheDebugger> System=>Preferences=>Menu Layout
[09:01] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: i see...
[09:01] <Copan> ArrenLex:Package alsa-oss is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:01] <Copan> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:01] <Copan> is only available from another source
[09:02] <boink> !scim
[09:02] <ubotu> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[09:02] <ArrenLex> Copan: you'll need to add universe to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:02] <Jordan_U> TheDebugger: Ahh thanks, it always confuses me when the menu item is so different from the actuall name.
[09:02] <Copan> How do I do that?
[09:02] <TheGino_Frank> Whats the command for the trash bin, if in creating a desktop launcher??
[09:03] <ArrenLex> Copan: "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" to open it in a text editor. Then, add this line: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[09:03] <ArrenLex> and save it.
[09:03] <ArrenLex> Then run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install alsa-oss"
[09:03] <ArrenLex> Copan: and welcome to Linux :) Not the best way to start, is it. Sorry about that.
[09:03] <Jordan_U> Copan: System -> administration -> Software sources is an easier way to do it if you prefer GUIs
[09:04] <kray^er> hello. i was wondering if ubuntu supports mirroring scsi drivers like the way with dynamic disks under windows. i have an older scsi controller that does not have raid hrdware support. thank you
[09:04] <Jordan_U> ArrenLex: There is a GUI for almost everything.
[09:05] <Copan> ArrenLex: I enjoy the terminal, its oldschool :p
[09:05] <ArrenLex> Jordan_U: I know, but I never use it, so I can't offer any advice on it :(
[09:05] <TheGino_Frank> Whats the command for the trash bin, if in creating a desktop launcher??
[09:05] <Copan> ArrenLex: do you have any suggestions on a terminal tutorial?
[09:05] <Jordan_U> ArrenLex: Neither do I :)
[09:06] <ArrenLex> Copan: me personally? No, I learned my stuff by trial and error... google probably has some suggestions.
[09:06] <livingtarget> TheGino_Frank: Try opening gconf-editor and going to apps > nautilus > desktop and check trash_icon_visible
[09:07] <Copan> ubuntu is a beautiful OS, a little "sketchy" for a new user to switch from windows, but I love the efficiency
[09:07] <ArrenLex> Copan: enjoy it. I personally hate ubuntu. :)
[09:07] <Copan> but its for human beings, if I get familiar with linux I may try other things!
[09:08] <Jordan_U> ArrenLex: Debian or Gentoo man I am guessing ?
[09:08] <ArrenLex> Debian.
[09:08] <Born_In_Xixax> is there any provision to auto-empty or limit the capacity of .trash?
[09:08] <TheDebugger> FreeeBSD :D
[09:08] <Copan> ArrenLex: the process you just told me is done, whats next?
[09:08] <ArrenLex> Copan: what's the last command you've run?
[09:08] <Bartman007> is there any way to force keyring to accept a blank password?
[09:08] <mordof> alright i've searched google and i can't find out how to disable the "user joined channel" messages again, could anyone please help me out? i'm gonna write it down this time, lol
[09:08] <Copan> the last one you gave me
[09:08] <ArrenLex> Jordan_U: It's always been my opinion that life is too short to run Gentoo.
[09:08] <Copan> it installed a bunch of new things
[09:09] <Jordan_U> ArrenLex: :)
[09:09] <TheGino_Frank> livingtarget, thanks it worked
[09:09] <ArrenLex> Copan: after installing alsa-oss? It should "just work" now. What problems are you having?
[09:09] <Copan> i'll try my sound :)
[09:09] <livingtarget> np
[09:10] <mordof> Madpilot: were you the one that told me how to shut off the join and part notices and all that before?
[09:11] <Copan> ArrenLex: my sound still does not work, the error I get is: The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control. This means either that you don't have the right GStreamer plugins installed, or that you don't have a sound card configured.
[09:11] <Madpilot> mordof, I know it can be done in XChat; that's the only IRC app I'm really familiar with, though.
[09:11] <charlesfrancis> hi, I'm a Ubuntu newbie who is trying to help another Ubuntu newbie get on online.  We are getting a link light with our newly installed version of Ubuntu 6.10, but when we open a shell prompt and do a ping www.yahoo.com, we get no response
[09:11] <Jordan_U> ArrenLex: I think there are a lot of things that I don't like about ubuntu, no gcc, no emacs, but they are things easily remidied, for me it is easier to make Ubuntu the way I like it than Debian, but it is pretty easy in both so I don't really know why I use Ubuntu actually now that I think of it :)
[09:12] <ArrenLex> Copan: could I ask you to run the command "amixer" in a terminal? It will give you lots of text. Paste this text into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to get a link for it and then paste that link back to the channel.
[09:12] <livingtarget> Copan: also what does lspci -v show you, do you see your audio controller there?
[09:12] <mordof> Madpilot: *sighs*, someone told me how to use an irc command to tell the server not to send those notices, lol.. but i was in the process of restarting and couldn't write it down
[09:12] <Copan> yes sir
[09:12] <Arafangion> Hello guys - I've installed Edgy, however my console font is large and the colours aren't very good - why might this have been changed from Dapper?
[09:13] <Copan> ArrenLex: you were wrong about the mass of text, the text I got is as follows: amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
[09:13] <ArrenLex> Jordan_U: Yeah... I'm one of those Free Software hippies.
[09:13] <crimsun> Copan: what computer do you have (make & model)?
[09:13] <Arafangion> The font is _huge_.
[09:13] <Copan> crimsun: Toshiba sattelite, sadly designed for windows xp :(
[09:13] <Copan> 2004 i believe
[09:13] <livingtarget> Copan: What does lspci -v show you, do you see your audio controller there?
[09:14] <crimsun> Copan: which satellite model?
[09:14] <Jordan_U> ArrenLex: You must _love_ Feisty then ;)
[09:14] <Copan> uhmm.
[09:14] <Arafangion> mordof: It's probably some flag you tell nickserv to set for you, then.
[09:14] <Copan> crimsun: sattelite model P10
[09:14] <ArrenLex> Jordan_U: Why? What happened there?
[09:15] <Jordan_U> ArrenLex: nvidea-glx and fglrx installed by default in fiesty
[09:15] <ArrenLex> God bless.
[09:15] <Richard__> I'm trying to samba with a win xp pc and one ubuntu pc. They're both connected to a modem with a bulit in switch (both boxes have an individual external ip adress)
[09:15] <ArrenLex> Glad I got away from there. *debianetch.hug*
[09:15] <Copan> livingtarget: it shows me a lot of text
[09:15] <crimsun> Copan: which P10?
[09:15] <Richard__> but 'tis not working
[09:15] <ArrenLex> Copan: Paste the output of "lspci | grep -i audio"
[09:15] <ArrenLex> For starters.
[09:16] <Copan> P10 PSP16C is my guess
[09:16] <Jordan_U> ArrenLex: BUT not before giving you a lecture on why they are bad, so it really is good for the zealots because peeople are at least getting educated, and you do get to choose weather or not you want them installed.
[09:16] <Arafangion> The console is 80 columns wide, and 24 lines high, which seems to be normal but the font just seems to be "big", and in nethack, I can't see any of the money, etc, because the colour is wrong!
[09:16] <Copan> ArrenLex: ATI Technologies Inc IXP150 AC'97 Audio Controller
[09:17] <ArrenLex> At least the kernel knows about it, then.
[09:17] <ArrenLex> Jordan_U: I can understand that there's some people who want everything to Just Work regardless of where the source came from. I'm fine with that. I'm just saying I, personally, hate ubuntu.
[09:17] <lyy> Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:17] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: Ubuntu on laptops and desktops, Debian on everything else, I always say ;)
[09:18] <lyy> can someone tell me how to install mplayer on this ubuntu version ? Linux ubuntu 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[09:18] <ArrenLex> lyy: apt-get install mplayer
[09:18] <charlesfrancis> hi, I'm not sure if we are visible in this channel.  Is anyone seeing this message?
[09:18] <Jordan_U> charlesfrancis: No.
[09:19] <ArrenLex> charlesfrancis: no, s..   Thanks
[09:19] <lyy> ArrenLex: it says i have dependences that are needed
[09:19] <crimsun> Copan: lsmod |grep ^snd_atiixp
[09:19] <Copan> ArrenLex: do you have any other suggestions?
[09:19] <ArrenLex> lyy: And? Install them.
[09:19] <Jordan_U> @lart ArrenLex
[09:19] <lyy> can't
[09:19] <ArrenLex> Copan: I suggest you listen to crimsun because he's smart :P
[09:19] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: mplayer has "no installation candidates" on Edgy.
[09:19] <ArrenLex> Arafangion: need multiverse repository.
[09:19] <Copan> crimsun: snd_atiixp             19724  0
[09:19] <Copan> snd_atiixp_modem       16136  0
[09:20] <TheGino_Frank> lyy, synaptic package manager look up mplayer will install everything you need
[09:20] <tripppy> is there a list of supported USB digtal tv decoder's ? ubuntu or *nix ?
[09:20] <lyy> TheGino_Frank: i tried that.
[09:20] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: Ahh, not just the "universe" ;)
[09:20] <lyy> it has dependencies it can't resolve
[09:20] <ArrenLex> Arafangion: nope; ubuntu people don't like mplayer's codecs.
[09:20] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: Damn this is irritating, I can't even read your nick when you message me :(
[09:20] <Jordan_U> tripppy: Go with PCI if you can.
[09:20] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: Your name is nearly black, (It's supposed to be yellow, but something's <censored> in Edgy)
[09:21] <Copan> crimsun: the output I got from that command was: snd_atiixp             19724  0
[09:21] <Copan> snd_atiixp_modem       16136  0
[09:21] <ArrenLex> Arafangion: your chat client is nicely representing that I am the heart of all evil. ph33r me.
[09:21] <crimsun> Copan: great. What's the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards''? (Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ )
[09:21] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: It's not the irc client.
[09:22] <Arafangion> ArrenLex: It's the *linux console* itself. :(
[09:22] <Copan> crimsun: 0 [IXP            ] : ATIIXP - ATI IXP
[09:22] <Copan>                      ATI IXP rev 0 with ALC250 at 0xe8004400, irq 193
[09:22] <Copan> 1 [Modem          ] : ATIIXP-MODEM - ATI IXP Modem
[09:22] <Copan>                      ATI IXP Modem rev 1 at 0xe8004800, irq 193
[09:22] <Arafangion> My font is <censored>, and the colour is <censored> :(
[09:22] <Arafangion> Copan: Don't flood please, I only have 24 lines here :)
[09:22] <Jordan_U> Arafangion: You are using irssi ?
[09:22] <Copan> sorry
[09:22] <Arafangion> Jordan_U: Yes.
[09:22] <charlesfrancis> folks, how do I find out if my network card is talking to my DSL modem under Ubuntu 6.10
[09:22] <TheGino_Frank> lyy, go to software sources and make sure that universe, main, multi universe and restricted are checked then do synaptic
[09:23] <Arafangion> Jordan_U: Why you so surprised? :)
[09:23] <crimsun> Copan: ok, and do any of /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc* exist?
[09:23] <Copan> how do i found out?
[09:23] <Copan> getit "/etc/"
[09:23] <Arafangion> Damn invisible black kobolds in nethack!  This is irritating.
[09:24] <Copan> crimsun: ls: /etc/asound.conf: No such file or directory
[09:24] <Jordan_U> Arafangion: No, just making sure you were in a tty and I wasn't going insane ( I need sleep ) :)
[09:24] <crimsun> Copan: ls /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc*  (don't paste here)
[09:24] <Arafangion> Jordan_U: I am hte one going insane :(
[09:24] <Copan> may I PM you crimsun?
[09:24] <crimsun> Copan: please don't
[09:24] <Copan> crimsun: no such file or directory for the file you gave me
[09:25] <Arafangion> Jordan_U: I sometimes feel that #ubuntu is a channel for newbs, because one never gets answers for _technical_ questions, while #debian actively disregards ubuntu users :(
[09:25] <crimsun> Copan: ok, please pastebin the output from ``lspci -nv''
[09:25] <Copan> pastebin?
[09:25] <ArrenLex> !pastebin
[09:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:25] <Copan> :)
[09:26] <Jordan_U> Arafangion: yeh, I found out today that #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place for real questions, but it's still no #debian ( but they aren't snobbs either so it balances out :)
[09:27] <Copan> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34511/
[09:27] <Arafangion> Jordan_U: Debian guys aren't snobs either - imho, they have the best system for servers - they just don't realise that a Desktop has *different needs*
[09:28] <Caplain> is there a way to have my phone sync with linux?
[09:28] <fyre|work> Caplain: depends on the phone.
[09:29] <Caplain> sprint vi-2300
[09:29] <brkopac> hey guys, whats a good program to mount cd images with?
[09:29] <ArrenLex> Arafangion: Have you ever been to #debian? No man, unless your question actually requires that you write something out in hex format, they're total snots to you.
[09:29] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: =/... did not find any app of the kind i was hoping for...
[09:29] <userbn> #memek
[09:29] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: ?
[09:30] <Bikerwade> How do i play movies in .iso ?
[09:30] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Burn it to a DVD.
[09:30] <fyre|work> Bikerwade: you can mount them -- mplayer can actually play them directly from .iso.
[09:30] <crimsun> Copan: ok, please try this: ``aplay -Dplughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[09:30] <Bikerwade> for examle, is there any virtual CD/DVD app fou ubuntu ?
[09:30] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Mplayer
[09:30] <fyre|work> Bikerwade: to mount them, create a directory first, like mkdir ~/movie -- then sudo mount -o loop somefile.iso /home/yourusername/movie
[09:30] <Bikerwade> hmm... ok
[09:31] <ArrenLex> Bikerwade: the ability to mount images is part of the Linux system itself. Run the command "sudo mount -o loop file.iso /some/directory" to mount an image.
[09:31] <fyre|work> Bikerwade: no need since mount takes care of that :)
[09:31] <Copan> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34512/
[09:31] <Dheeraj_k> please help me i am fasing authentication problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34510/
[09:31] <naught101> does "modprobe -r ..." permanently remove a module, or just for the session?
[09:32] <Dheeraj_k> please chk the log  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34510/
[09:32] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Did you get Add-remove applications back?
[09:32] <crimsun> Copan: ``cat /proc/asound/devices''
[09:32] <Bikerwade> ok..
[09:32] <naught101> !modprobe
[09:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about modprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:32] <ArrenLex> Night, all.
[09:32] <Copan> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34513/
[09:32] <fyre|work> naught101: just for the session, if its meant to autoload next time, it will.
[09:32] <Dheeraj_k>  please help me i am fasing authentication problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34510/
[09:33] <naught101> fyre|work: how dow you remove it permanently?
[09:33] <Dheeraj_k>  please help me i am facing authentication problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34510/
[09:33] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U nope. and i cant find Mplayer in alacarte
[09:34] <crimsun> Copan: ok, please try this: ``aplay -Dplughw:0 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''
[09:34] <Dheeraj_k>  please help me i am facing authentication problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34510/
[09:34] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: That is not what alacarte is for, I wanted you to open alacarte so I could tell you how to get add remove applications back
[09:34] <Copan> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34514/
[09:35] <Dheeraj_k>  please help me i am facing authentication problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34510/
[09:35] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: ah, ok..  tell me'
[09:35] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Go to Applications on the left...
[09:35] <Bikerwade> ok
[09:35] <naught101> Dheeraj_k: spam doesn't make you popular. if people can help, they will. if not, try later, when different people are here
[09:35] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Then new item...
[09:36] <Dheeraj_k> sorry
[09:36] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Name = Add/Remove...
[09:36] <naught101> no worries
[09:36] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: comment = Install and remove applications
[09:36] <Dheeraj_k> actually i am facing problem in logging in as user
[09:36] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: command = /usr/bin/gnome-app-install
[09:37] <Dheeraj_k> so i logged in as root :(
[09:37] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: "new iten" ???
[09:37] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: And the icon is gnome-app-install.png
[09:37] <Bikerwade> item
[09:37] <crimsun> Copan: groups |grep audio 2>&1 >/dev/null ; echo $?
[09:37] <naught101> Dheeraj_k: what happens when you try to log in?
[09:38] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: On the right there should be a "new item" button
[09:38] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: can't se any function/button called "New item"
[09:38] <Copan> it echos $
[09:38] <Dheeraj_k> it is poping up error change the permission to 644
[09:38] <crimsun> Copan: err, it should return either 0 or 1
[09:38] <Copan> question mark too?
[09:38] <crimsun> yes
[09:38] <naught101> is that all it says?
[09:38] <Copan> crimsun: true
[09:38] <naught101> doesn't give a file?
[09:38] <Dheeraj_k> ok let me chk it again
[09:39] <crimsun> Copan: is it a 0 or a 1?
[09:39] <Copan> 1 = true
[09:39] <Copan> :p
[09:39] <crimsun> no, in this case it's bad.
[09:39] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: this is what my window looks like
[09:39] <Narada> i know how you upgrade a desktop from dapper to edgy but how do you upgrade a server?
[09:39] <crimsun> Copan: sudo adduser $USER audio
[09:39] <Copan> where user is my account name?
[09:39] <crimsun> yes
[09:40] <Copan> crimsun: done
[09:40] <crimsun> Copan: now log out and back in
[09:40] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: my transfer-window is empty....
[09:40] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Same here, I don't know why it isn't working.
[09:41] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Now?
[09:41] <Bikerwade> ...nothing...  =/
[09:42] <fyre|work> Narada: its the same process.
[09:42] <Narada> fyre|work: except for the ubuntu-desktop package?
[09:42] <mordof> uh, hi.. was wondering what i would type for apt-get to install the smp kernel for my dual core?
[09:42] <fyre|work> Narada: yeah :)
[09:42] <Narada> heh
[09:43] <fyre|work> mordof: sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-686 I think.
[09:43] <Narada> cool
[09:43] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: http://trogdoor.googlepages.com/Screenshot-1.png
[09:43] <mordof> fyre|work: ty
[09:43] <Caplain> for future reference BitPim can be used to sync phones
[09:43] <Jordan_U> fyre|work: I thought there was a -smp package?
[09:43] <mordof> fyre|work: "couldn't find package" any repos i need to add?
[09:43] <fyre|work> Jordan_U: the 686 is smp enabled.
[09:44] <mordof> hmmm
[09:44] <Narada> Jordan_U: what is that? beryl?
[09:44] <charlesfrancis> hi, what is the best way to find one's NIC card under Ubuntu 6.10?  I have done a lspci and I have gone into System > Administration > Device manager, but I'm not seeing it.  I have been trying to get on line with this Ubuntu box, which formerly was a SuSE box, and I was able to get on line with it then.
[09:44] <Copan> crimsun: the music sounds beautiful, thank you very much for your patience! :)
[09:44] <fyre|work> charlesfrancis: grep eth /var/log/messages
[09:44] <Jordan_U> fyre|work: Why is there both linux-686 and
[09:44] <Jordan_U> linux-686-smp
[09:44] <Jordan_U>  ?
[09:44] <Jordan_U> Narada: yup
[09:44] <fyre|work> Jordan_U: one is a virtual package, iirc.
[09:45] <crimsun> Copan: np
[09:45] <Copan> good night everyone
[09:45] <Dheeraj_k> naught101: dheeraj@avtar:/home$ cd dheeraj
[09:45] <Dheeraj_k> bash: cd: dheeraj: Permission denied
[09:45] <Dheeraj_k> dheeraj@avtar:/home$
[09:46] <Dheeraj_k> i am not able to access my directory
[09:46] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Can you send me a screenshot of your window if it is different?
[09:46] <charlesfrancis> fryelwork, thanks, is the command grep /var/log/messages ?
[09:46] <charlesfrancis> or do I need to do grep /var/log/messages nic?
[09:46] <naught101> Dheeraj_k: try just "cd"
[09:47] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: hmm.. yes, i do not have theese buttons on the right, only the tree on the bottom...
[09:47] <Dheeraj_k> drw-r--r-- 31 dheeraj dheeraj 4096 2006-11-28 13:32 dheeraj
[09:48] <MrKeuner> hi, why isn't there any updates to edgy after the release. I saw only couple of security updates. I have all the official repositories enabled to my knowledge.
[09:48] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: now that i restarted alacarte, i got an menu (upper left) with a "new item" choice..
[09:48] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: strange.
[09:49] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Name = Add/Remove...
[09:49] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: comment = Install and remove applications
[09:49] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U  mmm..
[09:49] <Bikerwade> ok. done
[09:49] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: command = /usr/bin/gnome-app-install
[09:49] <naught101> huh? you could try "sudo chmod -r 755 /home/dheeraj"
[09:49] <Dheeraj_k> naught101: permission denied :(
[09:49] <naught101> with sudo?
[09:49] <naught101> wierd
[09:50] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Yes?
[09:51] <Arafangi1n> Why is my console font messed up, and why the heck don't I have a default font file setup?
[09:51] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: nvm
[09:51] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: And the icon is gnome-app-install.png
[09:51] <Dheeraj_k> error chmod: cannot access `755': No such file or directory
[09:52] <mordof> sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-686 doesn't work..
[09:52] <mordof> i'm so confused :S heh
[09:53] <db712> try 0755
[09:53] <Dheeraj_k> i remove -r from above command and it worked
[09:54] <naught101> cool
[09:54] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: nope. same  thing again.. it is starting, a window showing progressbar for searching for installed components freezes and after a while shuts it self down... along witt  the rest of the app...
[09:55] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Sorry I somehow forgot your origionall problem and thought it was just the icon that was gone.
[09:55] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get -f install ?
[09:56] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: please explain how to do that...
[09:57] <maud__dib> Dheeraj_k,db712     -R   is for recursive
[09:57] <Dheeraj_k> but why it returned error?
[09:57] <maud__dib> Dheeraj_k,db712     -R   is for recursive    not  -r
[09:58] <Dheeraj_k> oh
[09:58] <Dheeraj_k> thanx every body :)
[09:58] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Open a terminal window, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal type "sudo apt-get -f install" and paste that to pastebin which ubotu will now explain to you :)
[09:58] <Jordan_U> !paste
[09:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:58] <Dheeraj_k> wat is the use of -R ?
[09:59] <Guest981> hwllo
[09:59] <Guest981> salam to all
[10:00] <maud__dib> Dheeraj_k  with chmod will change all files and folders permisions below directory not just the one directory
[10:01] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: ?
[10:01] <Dheeraj_k> wat os the use of this command ? chown
[10:01] <Guest981> hello
[10:01] <Guest981> vi /etc/rook
[10:01] <Arafangi1n> liable: consolechars -d results in: "Couldn't find a default font file."
[10:01] <Guest981> cd /etc/rc.d/init.d
[10:01] <Dheeraj_k> os = is :)
[10:01] <Arafangi1n> Why don't I have a default font file? That seems to be rather *elementary*
[10:01] <Guest981> ./squid reload
[10:01] <Jordan_U> Dheeraj_k: To change the owner of a file, man chown for more information
[10:02] <Dheeraj_k> thanx
[10:03] <brkopac> hey guys, how can i mount a starcraft image and get wine to recognize it? Any input or would I be better surved in the wine channel?
[10:03] <brkopac> served*
[10:04] <Jordan_U> brkopac: Probably better served in #wine, since it isn't a distro specific problem
[10:04] <InvisiblePinkUni> !screen
[10:04] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[10:05] <InvisiblePinkUni> how do i split gnu screen vertically?
[10:05] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Having any problems?
[10:05] <malt> Hello, where on ubuntu site does ubuntu have there banners the link banners where i can link there image on my site?
[10:07] <Arafangi1n> How do I set a decent console font, and fix the colours?
[10:07] <Arafangi1n> This is a freshly installed ubuntu system!
[10:08] <puto-madre> yo guys
[10:09] <puto-madre> i just upgraded to edgy... anyone wants to congratulate?
[10:09] <nancyboy> hi
[10:09] <nancyboy> Anyone in  here play hero online?
[10:10] <puto-madre> not me
[10:11] <Lovloss> Whats it mean when it says 2.9% of my files are non-contiginous?
[10:12] <Jordan_U> Lovloss: You have verry slight fragmentation
[10:12] <Arafangi1n> Lovloss: Your system is slightly fragmented.
[10:12] <Arafangi1n> Lovloss: Nothing to worry about.
[10:12] <Lovloss> an it be defragged ?
[10:12] <alien> !ubuntu
[10:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[10:12] <Arafangi1n> Lovloss: Linux filesystems really don't need to be defragmented.
[10:13] <Jordan_U> Lovloss: It won't make a noticeable difference but yes.
[10:13] <natrix> morning ppl!
[10:13] <Lovloss> ok
[10:13] <Lovloss> maybe if i get really fragged ill check in
[10:13] <InvisiblePinkUni> !defragment
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about defragment - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <Jordan_U> Lovloss: Unless you only leave about 10 meg free you won't get bad fragmentation
[10:13] <Arafangi1n> Lovloss: You'd be running a major server with a very active hard drive, and be nearly full if you ever have serious fragmentation on Linux - unlike windows.
[10:14] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34517/
[10:14] <InvisiblePinkUni> why dont ext2/3 systems need to be defragmented?
[10:14] <Lovloss> :D
[10:14] <Lovloss> well i need to sleep. bye yall
[10:14] <Arafangi1n> InvisiblePinkUni: From memory, they basically put the files into the middle of a nice, big chunk.
[10:14] <Arafangi1n> InvisiblePinkUni: So files have room to grow, plus there's two nice big chunks on both sides as well for more files.
[10:15] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: I only speak english and german but that looks fine :)
[10:15] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: sorry, forgot.. okey..  so now what ?
[10:15] <InvisiblePinkUni> Arafangi1n: what if lots of big files and small files are being saved and deleted... it must inevitably lead to fragmentation
[10:16] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: What about the output of running: gnome-app-install
[10:16] <puto-madre> hm, on the kubuntu page i read that laptop-hotkeys are now supported... i use ubuntu, should it be the same here or does this refer to kmilo or another kde app?
[10:16] <Jordan_U> InvisiblePinkUni: If you have enough free space then no, it won't, no matter how many times you add / delete files.
[10:16] <Arafangi1n> InvisiblePinkUni: Yes, but the level of fragmentation is very small - unless you have so little space that it must split the files.
[10:17] <Arafangi1n> InvisiblePinkUni: In addition to that, Linux is extremely agressive with respect to cache'ing the filesystem.
[10:17] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: exactly the same thing happens then.. '
[10:17] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: But can you pastebin the output from the terminal?
[10:17] <InvisiblePinkUni> hmmm interesting
[10:17] <Arafangi1n> InvisiblePinkUni: Type "free", and observe that (assuming you have been using the system for a reasonable amount of time), that you have only about 8 MB free, or even 4MB, or even 1 MB.
[10:18] <Arafangi1n> InvisiblePinkUni: Linux has been benchmarked at being significantly faster than Windows for filesharing.
[10:18] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: where do i get that ?
[10:19] <InvisiblePinkUni> Arafangi1n: :o it only shows 8mb free...
[10:19] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade:open the terminal and type "gnome-app-install"
[10:20] <Arafangi1n> InvisiblePinkUni: If you have 1 GB of memory, it's very likely that 600MB or more is being used for the filesystem cache.  Memory is much, much faster than disk.
[10:20] <Arafangi1n> InvisiblePinkUni: And it can easily just chuck the cache if it needs more memory, anyway :)
[10:20] <InvisiblePinkUni> Arafangi1n: mmmmm linux..... :)
[10:21] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34518/
[10:22] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: line 6 = bus-error
[10:23] <Arafangi1n> InvisiblePinkUni: Linux is a very, very nice Kernel, indeed :)
[10:23] <Jordan_U> Bikerwade: Ok, try running this in the terminal: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-app-install
[10:24] <Arafangi1n> Could *anybody* confirm that a stock edgy install results in nearly black colours whenever a "yellow" is displayed in the linux console?
[10:25] <Arafangi1n> For instance, in nethack, gold and doors and so forth are nearly black, (even though doors are supposed to be brown)
[10:25] <Arafangi1n> Irssi's highlighting is also black.
[10:28] <racarr> Arafangi1n: First vim is removed from the edgy live CD, and now nethack is broken? Blasphemous !
[10:28] <racarr> Note: Slight Sarcasm
[10:29] <racarr> Arafangi1n: Do you mean in a tty? I have not noticed that if that is the case, I installed nethack within 30 minutes of installing edgy just last week
[10:29] <Arafangi1n> racarr: I was surprised when *Debian* removed vim, but anyway.  My problem is that *any* console app that needs to use a number of colours, such as yellow, or black (though blue and pink seem fine), are black.
[10:29] <Arafangi1n> racarr: And yes, I mean a tty.
[10:29] <mborohov> jeeezus, i need a break. i just wrote a state estimator for a robot my friend and i are building, and it finally works, but after a good three weeks of hacking at it.
[10:30] <mborohov> and now it's finally caught up with me in that i can't sleep.
[10:30] <mborohov> haha
[10:30] <Arafangi1n> mborohov: I hope it's got a good, fancy gui, or you had mechanical problems :)
[10:30] <mborohov> 'twas indeed the gui that tripped us up most ;)
[10:30] <mborohov> the state estimator itself is easy. not to mention the entire thing is written in python. heh
[10:31] <Arafangi1n> racarr: Additionally, I'm unable to use the default console font - when I run consolechars -d, I get a message that says I do not have a default font!
[10:31] <Arafangi1n> mborohov: Which gui did you use?
[10:32] <mborohov> Arafangiln: home-brewed, but uses tkinter
[10:32] <Arafangi1n> mborohov: No wonder that it took 3 weeks!
[10:32] <mborohov> shut up. it works.
[10:32] <mborohov> heh
[10:33] <mborohov> and it's pretty too. haha.
[10:33] <mborohov> although, in retrospect, probably wasn't the best decision to go with.
[10:33] <Arafangi1n> mborohov: I'm a wxPython fan, myself, though wx is pretty hairy at times.
[10:33] <mborohov> i dont know very much about wx
[10:34] <Arafangi1n> mborohov: It's a gui library that will work everywhere you expect a gui.
[10:34] <mborohov> Arafangiln: such as?
[10:34] <Arafangi1n> mborohov: And it'll try and use the native widgets, which is both a blessing and a curse.
[10:35] <Arafangi1n> mborohov: Even more compatible than tkinker, even :)
[10:35] <Arafangi1n> mborohov: I've never seen tkinker on a PDA, nor does it install by default on Mac OS X.
[10:36] <mborohov> Arafangiln: Well, I was sort of stuck with tkinter at this point because originally this was for a class...
[10:36] <mborohov> Arafangiln: and I essentially took PyRo, rewrote it, and called it SoaR. In doing so, I was sort of stuck with tkinter
[10:36] <Jordan_U> Arafangi1n: There is a chanvce Ubuntu uses screen font map files instead of a PSF file.
[10:37] <dbglt> Hi everyone, I'm on ubuntu edgy, and I'm trying to install the non-free ati drivers. It says I can't use xgl with them, so how do I turn xgl off and use only xorg?
[10:37] <Arafangi1n> Jordan_U: So, which program or configuration file manipulates it, so that I can at _least_ *start* somewhere.
[10:38] <Arafangi1n> Jordan_U: Sorry, I'm just a bit irritated :)
[10:39] <Arafangi1n> mborohov: Oh don't you tell me that you're one of those guys who aren't happy with merely handing in an assignment, you must continue after it's due and make it something that is very very good, but somehow also useless because it only works in that academic environment, or in your case, just as a toy?
[10:39] <Arafangi1n> mborohov: :)  (I've got a friend who's become just a bit obsessed with a certain OpenGL drawing class, for example)
[10:40] <milaks> Hi, when I try to run debugger with simple program in Eclipse I get: "No registers. Stopped due to shared library event Stopped due to shared library event". I've tried Eclipse irc channel but with no response, and sinse I've found something with google maybe this is a distribution glithc, so does anyone know what is the matter with debugging in Eclipce?
[10:40] <Zaldun> [dbglt]  while graphics cards manufactures dont make good drivers to linux we are fucked
[10:41] <Arafangi1n> milaks: Try #java
[10:41] <mborohov> Arafangiln: You pegged it.
[10:41] <dbglt> Zaldun: right. Not here for a philosophical debate. That's the way things are at the moment, trying to work with that. But thanks :p
[10:42] <Zaldun> ok
[10:42] <mborohov> Arafangiln: It really gets annoying sometimes. Trust me. I'm currently not really pulling my weight in my required courses (bio, chem, physics, you know that pure science crap :p) due to spending so much time on this and other random projects.
[10:42] <Arafangi1n> Zaldun: WOuld you believe it - a number of whiners exist that wish that Apple used xorg(!) :)
[10:42] <mborohov> Arafangiln: I have to be very careful not to start trying to develop for beryl until _after_ finals, for I worry for my health, haha.
[10:42] <Arafangi1n> mborohov: Just get a full time job :)
[10:43] <mborohov> Arafangiln: that requires me first getting out of MIT, which is a job in and of itself :)
[10:44] <Rob-West> is this just a Ubuntu Linux channel
[10:44] <racarr> mborohov: I'm an MIT hopeful this year! Me and...11k or so other people?
[10:44] <ailean> Rob-West, yes, but "just?" :)
[10:45] <Zaldun> i left one ball and the other :), trying to install beryl, to probe it, impossible to do it. why? driver problems, its clare
[10:45] <Jordan_U> Arafangi1n: What is wrong with wanting Apple to use xorg?
[10:45] <Arafangi1n> *sigh*, it seems that my font problem is Launchpad bug number 58539
[10:45] <mborohov> racarr: Are you another one of those that stalks the blogs? I did... :)
[10:45] <Rob-West> does Cedega support .mdf and .mds files
[10:45] <mborohov> It can be fun.
[10:46] <Zaldun> clear*
[10:46] <Jordan_U> Arafangi1n: If they had we would have had compositing support LOOONG ago.
[10:46] <Arafangi1n> Jordan_U: Now, let's not get into a philosophical issue :)
[10:46] <racarr> mborohov: I read them last year (I was planning on skipping my senior year and applying a year early) and more or less stalked them, but not so much this year
[10:46] <ailean> i dunno
[10:46] <ailean> !cedega | Rob-West
[10:46] <ubotu> Rob-West: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[10:47] <ailean> Rob-West, you may have seen that though . . .
[10:48] <mborohov> racarr: Well, good luck. As I have class in four hours, I should get to bed. See you around :)
[10:48] <Rob-West> well im new to Linux
[10:48] <ailean> Rob-West, no probs. are you running ubuntu then i take it?
[10:48] <Rob-West> yes
[10:48] <mborohov> Ooh
[10:49] <racarr> mborohov:  Heh, thanks I most likely need it, I guess I will see in around 2 weeks
[10:49] <mborohov> Arafangiln: The class's laptops (which are used to control the robots) all run Ubuntu now ;)
[10:49] <ailean> Rob-West, okay, for #ubuntu related questions, ask in here. for Cedega related questions, ask in #cedega ;)
[10:49] <mborohov> racarr: Don't stress about it too much. It's not as big of a deal as a lot of people make it out to be.
[10:49] <mborohov> Alright, bed calls.
[10:49] <racarr> mborohov: Heh, thanks, nice to hear it from someone there, good night
[10:54] <tuna-fish-> what is the best way to compare two huge directories (with hundreds of subdirs) to find files that exist in the other but dont in the other?
[10:55] <tuna-fish-> I've been trying to ls -R > .txt and diff them but it doesn't seem to work very well
[10:55] <Narada> tuna-fish-: find and diff
[10:56] <puff> tuna-fish-: Also check out meld diff viewer.
[10:59] <Rob-West> well i found a game i bought a year ago
[10:59] <tuna-fish-> meld seems to be perfect, thanks!
[11:00] <Vspirit> I am having serious problems getting qemu running with kqemu on edgy, and I have tried lots of guides from dapper and breezy, but haven't found anything really working for me with edgy.. anyone who'a good at this?
[11:00] <puff> tuna-fish-: I'm quite fond of it for some kinds of tasks... I generally shun such GUI toys, but for complex file diffs, it's a godsend.
[11:00] <marina> wennnas
[11:04] <puff> Bah, humbug... I"m being inundated with spam.
[11:10] <luke_> Hello folks.  Help please!  I just tried to install compiz and it wreaked my X server.  Any easy way to reinstall X or revert to 5 minutes ago?
[11:11] <luke_> I can't boot :
[11:11] <luke_> :(
[11:11] <sc0tt> what errors did you get luke_?
[11:12] <luke_> GDM: Xserver not found: /usr/bin/Xgl :1 :1 -fullscreen -ac -accel glx:pbufer -accel etc etc etc.
[11:12] <luke_> "Error: command could not be executed!"
  I just followed the standard "how to" on our forums for compiz.  I have an ATI card so I had to edit a few files, and I suppose I broke something important
[11:14] <cherubiel> luke_: are you able to get to the gdm ?
[11:15] <luke_> GDM = ?  (sorry, somewhat noobish still, I can do a lot, but some of the terminology escapes me)
[11:15] <sc0tt> luke_: it looks like the Xgl package wasn't installed
[11:15] <sc0tt> rather than you breaking something
[11:15] <vikas> join #srijan
[11:15] <cherubiel> luke_: what do you see now? on the screen?
[11:16] <vikas> who #srijan
[11:16] <luke_> sc0tt:  that seems to make sense.  Some of the files in synaptic were different than what showed up on the how-to.  I figured it was out of date
[11:16] <luke_> well currently I'm using my 6.10 notebook.  My 6.10 desktop is just in console mode.  It can't book into Gnome
[11:16] <sc0tt> Are you running dapper or edgy?
[11:16] <luke_> *boot
[11:16] <sc0tt> ah
[11:16] <sc0tt> one sec.
[11:16] <luke_> edgy.  It's been working great
[11:17] <luke_> Not even duel booting anymore.   And omg raid is so easy to set up.  Far easier than windows
[11:17] <luke_> I wish I knew people people who used Linux.  Tough nut to learn solo.  Really appreciate the advice :)
[11:18] <njan> luke_, chances are there's a local linux users group somewhere near you.
[11:19] <luke_> njab:  I'm in Portland, so I have a feeling you're right.  I'll have to go looking after finals
[11:19] <sc0tt> luke_: type "pico /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom"
[11:20] <ailean> flash 9 under firefox is better than under windows . . .
[11:20] <sc0tt> Make your way down to the bottom, and comment everything under [servers]  out using the "#" char
[11:20] <sc0tt> http://code.x0f.org/151
[11:21] <sc0tt> it'll resemble something like that
[11:21] <VSpike> When I go into KDEPrint Add Printer Wizard, on the "Backend Selection" page everything is greyed out apart from SMB and Other.... any idea why this would be?
[11:21] <luke_> sc0tt:  heh... how do I page back up and scroll through in text mode?
[11:21] <sc0tt> page down key
[11:21] <sc0tt> or just the down arrow :D
[11:21] <luke_> sc0tt:  just beeps at me
[11:21] <sc0tt> interesting
[11:21] <sc0tt> try CTRL and V
[11:21] <luke_> sc0tt:  nope... doesn't seem to be interactive at all.
[11:23] <sc0tt> still no dice?
[11:23] <luke_> sc0tt:  tried several times.  It just beeps back at me from the CPU speaker
[11:23] <sc0tt> heh
[11:23] <sc0tt> it doesn't like you
[11:23] <sc0tt> :P
[11:23] <sc0tt> press CTRL + X
[11:23] <sc0tt> to exit
[11:24] <luke_> it's already out of it.
[11:24] <luke_> does it make any difference that I'm not using terminal per se, but whatever good old "command prompt" linux is? (i.e., looks like DOS)
[11:24] <sc0tt> type: "mv /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom.old"
[11:24] <luke_> it doesn't behave quite like terminal does on this notebook
[11:25] <sc0tt> that'll move the gdm custom file so its not loaded, after that try "/etc/init.d/gdm start"
[11:25] <sc0tt> and see if your X install works
[11:25] <luke_> heh... sudo
[11:26] <luke_>  /slap
[11:26] <sc0tt> -_-
[11:26] <sc0tt> try
[11:26] <sc0tt> "sudo pico /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom"
[11:26] <sc0tt> :P
[11:26] <luke_> "starting gnome display manager..."
[11:27] <luke_> but it just sits there
[11:27] <luke_> trying the /pico command
[11:28] <Bikerwade> Jordan_U: i tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-app-install, but nothing happend, still same bahaviour from add/remove app...
[11:29] <luke_> Sc0tt:  it's empty O.o
[11:29] <sc0tt> Oo
[11:29] <sc0tt> which way did you install it, using the custom gdf.conf or using an xsession?
[11:29] <luke_> sc0tt:  wait... we moved it
[11:29] <luke_>  /slap
[11:29] <sc0tt> heh
[11:29] <sc0tt> mv it back
[11:29] <sc0tt> :P
[11:30] <stopgo> if i see this: recv(4, "<?xml version=\'1.0\'?>\n<methodRes"..., 1024, 0) = 114
[11:30] <stopgo> if i see: recv(4, "<?xml version=\'1.0\'?>\n<methodRes"..., 1024, 0) = 114" in an strace, is there any way for me to view the rest of those 114 bites? the rest of that string would be really helpful for me
[11:30] <stopgo> whoops, sorry about the doublepost
[11:31] <Op3r> does anyone know how to make dlink wifi card to work?
[11:31] <luke_> sc0tt:  ok sweet, this is one of the files I modified
[11:31] <luke_> probably what I broke
[11:32] <sc0tt> heh
[11:32] <sc0tt> comment the lines at the bottom out like i showed in the paste
[11:32] <luke_> I changed  0  #1 to #0 1
[11:32] <luke_> per the how to
[11:32] <sc0tt> that'll stop gdm trying to start GDM
[11:32] <sc0tt> er
[11:32] <sc0tt> xgl*
[11:32] <sc0tt> :p
[11:32] <sc0tt> and X should in theory work
[11:32] <luke_> now it says "servers:  # Override display 1 to use XGl (display 1 important for ATI FGLRX)
[11:32] <luke_> 1=XGL
[11:33] <luke_> soooo....  change the # back to the 1=xgl?
[11:33] <sc0tt> yup, add a # to each line below [servers]
[11:33] <luke_> below [servers]  there's another tab that says [server-Xgl]
[11:34] <apecat> uhm, i recently installed some packages with apt-get, where can i find some kind of log? I need to --purge the thing that erases my /etc/hosts-file on every boot
[11:34] <sc0tt> yup, comment that out too
[11:34] <apecat> whatever that thing is
[11:34] <Hmg4> Anyone know how i can add a hole subnet in /etc/hosts.allow  for example 192.168.x.x
[11:34] <luke_> ok rebooting (crossed fingers)
[11:34] <sc0tt> you didn't need to reboot
[11:35] <sc0tt> :P
[11:35] <sc0tt> but thats okay
[11:35] <sc0tt> :P
[11:35] <luke_> heh...  to used to Windows.  Sneeze = reboot
[11:35] <sc0tt> hehe
[11:35] <luke_> sc0tt:  you're my hero.  Back in Gnome
[11:36] <luke_> I'm scared to know what happened to that mod I was trying to install
[11:36] <sc0tt> the remains of it will still be there
[11:36] <sc0tt> but they won't do no harm
[11:36] <sc0tt> In a few days, when the beryl project gets their site back up
[11:36] <sc0tt> try installing that
[11:37] <luke_> what do we call these "display" mods like Beryl
[11:37] <sc0tt> Desktop Enhancements
[11:37] <sc0tt> or Eye Candy
[11:37] <sc0tt> :P
[11:37] <luke_> fair enough
[11:37] <mnepton> compositing
[11:37] <luke_> I tried that one that started with a C...
[11:37] <sc0tt> yup
[11:37] <sc0tt> Compiz is the original project
[11:38] <sc0tt> Beryl is a project that started from Compiz, it 'forked' off
[11:38] <luke_> I'm frightened to mess with X anymore though.  Is there a way to backup Xserve settings before jacking around?
[11:38] <luke_> oh cool... I've been wondering what Beryl is
[11:38] <sc0tt> Just do the editing of the gdm.conf-custom
[11:38] <sc0tt> that'll stick you back to gnome every time
[11:38] <mnepton> cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/
[11:38] <sc0tt> unless you really screw things up :P
[11:39] <luke_> I have / and /home partitioned differently on RAID1
[11:39] <apecat> uhm, a correction to the thing i just asked, recently something has begun to reset my /etc/resolv.conf, not /etc/hosts at reboot
[11:39] <luke_> so my understanding is that I can always reinstall / if I need too
[11:39] <luke_> without hurting /home
[11:39] <sc0tt> indeed
[11:39] <sc0tt> I have both slackware servers here setup that way
[11:40] <sc0tt> makes upgrading the OS virtually painless
[11:40] <VSpike> gah
[11:40] <VSpike> this is driving me crazy
[11:40] <luke_> awesome.  Seems the performance of software RAID1 is at least as good as my previous hybrid RAID in Windows
[11:40] <mnepton> apecat: DHCP is doing that
[11:41] <biblio> ciao
[11:41] <apecat> mnepton: hmm well i don't use dhcp
[11:41] <naught101> can you permanently remove a kernel module without recompiling?
[11:42] <apecat> or, ehm i've used the gnome config thing to disable dhcp and use a static ip
[11:42] <mnepton> apecat: you sure about that? "cat /etc/network/interfaces"
[11:42] <Vspirit> uhmm, without the intention of offending, I've lost the overview of the packages that this ubuntu has installed now, to some agree that I miss freebsd. especially when something doesn't work it seems harder to grasp why.
[11:42] <luke_> sc0tt:  so quick theory question.  What did putting the # actually do.  I take it # is a command of some type?
[11:43] <apecat> mnepton: http://pastebin.ca/260426
[11:43] <sc0tt> luke_: # makes that line a comment
[11:43] <sc0tt> so it basically makes it as if those lines arn't there
[11:44] <luke_> sc0tt:  ROFL...  oh man that so explains something I was doing the other day.  Glad I asked
[11:44] <luke_>  /cookie
[11:44] <Calvin18> i think i set my default keyboard map settings wrongly
[11:44] <Calvin18> anywhere i can change it?
[11:45] <sc0tt> Calvin18: system > preferences > keyboard
[11:45] <mnepton> apecat: if you're sure they're changing, look at /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and use "supersede domain-name-servers"
[11:46] <Calvin18> sc0tt: i mean globally
[11:48] <VSpike> where can I get help on getting printing working in kubuntu?
[11:49] <apecat> mnepton: i think i realised what the problem is: this is what dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf says http://pastebin.ca/260429
[11:49] <apecat> i had one of those packages removed when i looked at some vpn stuff the other day
[11:50] <Arafangio1> Found the bug dealing with my wierd console colours! Damn irritating
[11:50] <apecat> so i guess i just should disable "rogue hook scripts"
[11:50] <solid_liq> gnome suxxors my nuttsors
[11:50] <Arafangio1> It was corruption caused by the boot splash screen.
[11:51] <v4m21> hi
[11:52] <luke_> sc0tt:  thanks again...
[11:52] <Calvin18> anywhere to reconfigure keymaps globally?
[11:52] <v4m21> where can I get ATI readon XPRESS 200 drivers for edgy ?
[11:52] <solid_liq> v4m21: www.ati.com
[11:52] <Op3r> hmmm
[11:53] <solid_liq> v4m21: only the binary closed-source drivers support it (with accel)
[11:53] <BlackHawk> moin
[11:53] <v4m21> k
[11:53] <proj> hi folks
[11:53] <v4m21> solid_liq: do I need to do any compilation ?
[11:53] <solid_liq> v4m21: nope
[11:53] <solid_liq> v4m21: it's a graphical installer that it comes with
[11:54] <solid_liq> v4m21: get their beta driver if you want a 3d desktop
[11:54] <solid_liq> v4m21: like with Beryl
[11:54] <v4m21> solid_liq: thanks.
[11:55] <Rob-West> where can i go for some Driving games for Linux
[11:55] <Arafangio1> Rob-West: Find some sort of Tuxracer :)
[11:57] <yuk> #ubuntu-cn
[11:58] <Smotang> EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[12:00] <optraz1> hello, how do i clear all the jobs in cups ?
[12:01] <LadyNikon> dagdg: I would usually say.. if you are in need of help with ubuntu or a problem with a program which is related to ubuntu then yes.  If its just a problem with a program no relation to ubuntu I would try to see if there is a channel for it.
[12:02] <Chandu> hi
[12:02] <Chandu> can anyone help me on lvm
[12:02] <LadyNikon> dagdg: for example.. getting the program to run in ubuntu.. vs getting the program to work properly or finding  a feature
[12:03] <hcker2000> hello
[12:03] <Chandu> I have two harddisks connected to my server
[12:03] <LadyNikon> however you can always ask the question to see if you get a response
[12:03] <Chandu> in 1st harddisk os was installed and in 2nd my data was there
[12:03] <Chandu> 2nd harddisk I was using as lvm
[12:03] <Arafangio1> LadyNikon: So long as they don't ask several times inside of 10 min :)
[12:03] <Chandu> but now I format 1st hardisk ..and reinstalled os
[12:03] <Me> just a random question.. is ubuntu better than windows?
[12:04] <Chandu> after reinstalling Iam not able to mount the second harddisk
[12:04] <dagdg> thx LadyNikon, I just need help getting it to work on ubuntu using the nvidia 9xxx drivers
[12:04] <reverseblade> Chandu, please do not use <Enter> for punctuation. So that we could better understand.
[12:04] <hcker2000> i hade a quick non ubuntu specific hard ware question for any one with a wrt54gc by linksys
[12:04] <LadyNikon> Arafangio1: heh
[12:04] <Chandu> reverseblade, ok
[12:04] <JJRR123Jamesrose> hcker2000 ok
[12:04] <LadyNikon> dagdg: and sorry if that was rather long winded so to speak
[12:04] <hcker2000> any one happen to know how to do port forwarding with it?
[12:05] <JJRR123Jamesrose> Yes, open <IP_ADDRESS> in browser
[12:05] <dagdg> LadyNikon: it's fine
[12:05] <simoKING_M> aiuto!!
[12:05] <JJRR123Jamesrose> click applications & gaming
[12:05] <JJRR123Jamesrose> and do it there :]
[12:05] <Chandu> please help me in this
[12:05] <JJRR123Jamesrose> (you will need to enter a password & username)
[12:05] <simoKING_M> qualcuno in itLIno??
[12:05] <hcker2000> JJRR123Jamesrose: i saw that. I just was not sure about it as it does not let me specify the computer the port should be forwarded to.
[12:06] <simoKING_M> qualcuno in italiano??
[12:06] <Chandu> whole our project data is in that partition , filessytem not found
[12:06] <Calvin18> how do i reset the default key layout?
[12:06] <bimberi> !it
[12:06] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese.   Welcome!
[12:09] <hcker2000> JJRR123Jamesrose: will the games and applications section do fine for forwarding port 82 to 80 even though i cant put in an ip?
[12:09] <LadyNikon> reus: what ever.
[12:09] <reus> Im tottaly addicted to base !
[12:10] <JJRR123Jamesrose> :s You should be able to put in an ip
[12:10] <LadyNikon> a better question is.. will my video card heh
[12:11] <LoPMX> hi
[12:11] <LoPMX> how can I install pl_PL.utf8 locale?
[12:11] <proj> What are some good ways to diagnose a hard lock under firefox. I have tried running from command line and with top open
[12:11] <hcker2000> JJRR123Jamesrose: i dont think there was a spot for it let me look agine
[12:11] <dagdg> LadyNikon & Co: I've figured I need to use the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and in a tutorial I'm reading it says to just go with the defaults, but the first selection is an autodetect. Should I use it or skip it?
[12:12] <reus> LadyNikon:  u will ;) give it time
[12:12] <LadyNikon> reus: what in the heck are you talking about?
[12:12] <reus> its the baseline
[12:12] <LadyNikon> dagdg: since i really dont know how to fix your problem. I really don't know sorry :S
[12:12] <hcker2000> well crap i forgot i unpluged the 54gc from the switch when i had to come to work as i didnt have time to finish seting it up and didnt want any one on my network
[12:14] <mnepton> reus: please don't.
[12:14] <bimberi> :)
[12:14] <Seveas> hi darling
[12:15] <hcker2000> i can always make my apache server run on 82 but i was trying to see if i could figure out how to change the port via forwarding :/
[12:15] <mnepton> Seveas: hey lover
[12:16] <bimberi> get a room :)
[12:18] <hcker2000> JJRR123Jamesrose: guess there is an ip to point it too weird I must be going even crazyer
[12:22] <hcker2000> well i guess i know what i need to do when i get home :D
[12:33] <felixfoertsch> Hi all!
[12:33] <apokryphos> hey
[12:33] <felixfoertsch> Could anyone help my with my ATI graphicscard?
[12:33] <Seveas> !anyone
[12:33] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:33] <Rob-West> i think i found a Linux game im gonna like
[12:33] <felixfoertsch> I'd like to have the fglrx drivers installed - but I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
[12:34] <Seveas> !fglrx
[12:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:34] <felixfoertsch> Tried the manual install - tried the install from the Ubuntusources.
[12:34] <felixfoertsch> It always said "Mesa" graphicscard.
[12:36] <felixfoertsch> Okay then - how to remove it completely, that I'm sure theres nothing producing the error then myself?
[12:36] <Rob-West> can someone help me install FLightGear
[12:36] <Rob-West> its a Linux flightsim
[12:37] <felixfoertsch> Rob-West: It's in the Ubuntusources - so just install it with Synaptic.
[12:38] <felixfoertsch> How to recreate the default xorg.conf?
[12:38] <Rob-West> how do i launch it
[12:38] <Seveas> Rob-West, apt-get install flightgear
[12:38] <Seveas> and run it from the menu
[12:38] <felixfoertsch> Rob-West: I assume you have to type "flightgear" into a terminal.
[12:38] <reverseblade> felipe, dpkg-reconfigure  ....
[12:39] <reverseblade> felixfoertsch,  dpkg-reconfigure  ....
[12:39] <felixfoertsch> What does it do?
[12:39] <felixfoertsch> Does it resett everything?!
[12:39] <felixfoertsch> -t
[12:40] <reverseblade> it configures the packages so that the package behaves as if it is first time installing. just enter the package name for xorg, and it will ask questions for reseting
[12:40] <reverseblade> felixfoertsch, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:41] <reverseblade> felixfoertsch, what is your graphic card's brand ?
[12:41] <felixfoertsch> It's an ATI grapihcs-card.
[12:42] <reverseblade> ATI what ?
[12:42] <reverseblade> 9000, 9200 ? and what is your computer's brand ?
[12:42] <manmadha> hee..... any one know how to join in fsf group...?
[12:43] <felixfoertsch> Oh. ATI Radeo 9600 XT - from ASUS.
[12:43] <Rob-West> im out guys
[12:43] <felixfoertsch> My Computer has no 'brand'; it's my personal configuration.
[12:44] <reverseblade> felixfoertsch, try this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[12:45] <reverseblade> felixfoertsch, I strongly suggest you to dig /var/log/xorg.log.0 or what ever it is
[12:46] <felixfoertsch> reverseblade: What to do there?
[12:46] <reverseblade> Does anyone have a guess about when apache 2.2 would be in repos ?
[12:46] <aar0n> 0???????)??)????)?????
[12:46] <livingdaylig> can someone help me with mounting a hardrive?
[12:46] <reverseblade> felixfoertsch, if you have any problems with your graphics, it is easy to diagnose the problem if you inspect that file.
[12:47] <felixfoertsch> reverseblade: Okay, thanks.
[12:47] <manmadha> hee..... any one know how to join in fsf group...?
[12:47] <reverseblade> livingdaylig, what is your problem exactly ?
[12:47] <aar0n> 0) ))
[12:47] <Rob-West> flightgear looks fun
[12:47] <apokryphos> aar0n: utf-8 only please
[12:47] <livingdaylig> reverseblade: i got two hard drives
[12:47] <tato> i want to install R (the statistical package) but i can't find it in the package list... what do i do?
[12:48] <Rob-West> flightgear looks fun
[12:48] <reverseblade> manmadha, checked here  ?https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse?highlight=%28fsf%29
[12:48] <livingdaylig> reverseblade: one i can't access due to username/password being out of whack, and i want to copy /home from it to my usable hardrive so i can reformat
[12:48] <felixfoertsch> livingdaylig: What type of harddrives? SATA, IDE?
[12:48] <livingdaylig> felixfoertsch: sata
[12:48] <livingdaylig> felixfoertsch: both are sata
[12:49] <reverseblade> livingdaylig, so what prevents you to access to the 2nd drive ?
[12:49] <livingdaylig> felixfoertsch: df -h ?
[12:49] <felixfoertsch> You can't access it due to username/pw? So it is mounted?
[12:49] <livingdaylig> reverseblade: i don't know it is not accepting my valix username or password
[12:49] <manmadha> reverseblade, hee i want to join in Free
[12:49] <reverseblade> livingdaylig, where does it ask for a password ?
[12:49] <tato> anyone?
[12:49] <manmadha> reverseblade, software foundation
[12:50] <livingdaylig> felixfoertsch: i want to mount it from other harddrive so ican copy /home
[12:50] <reverseblade> manmadha, this has nothing to do with #ubuntu
[12:50] <livingdaylig> reverseblade: at bootup /login
[12:50] <Rob-West> ok i installed flightgear
[12:50] <Rob-West> i cant find it in the Menus
[12:50] <felixfoertsch> So create a Launcher, Rob-West.
[12:50] <reverseblade> livingdaylig, check : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount
[12:51] <manmadha> reverseblade, ???????????????
[12:51] <coz_> Rob-West, it may not show up in the menus
[12:51] <reverseblade> manmadha, ignore me
[12:51] <coz_> Rob-West,  one thing you can do first is in the terminal type sudo update-menus
[12:51] <felixfoertsch> Rob-West: Try typing "fl" into the Terminal and then press "TAB" twice. It will show you the correct command to use.
[12:52] <Rob-West> nothing
[12:53] <felixfoertsch> Strange.
[12:53] <felixfoertsch> Are you sure that you have installed it correctly, Rob-West
[12:53] <bimberi> tato: r-base (and similar)
[12:53] <coz_> Rob-West,  try typing flightgear in terminal
[12:53] <Rob-West> i may have installed it wrong
[12:54] <Rob-West> can someone guide me through the install
[12:54] <coz_> Rob-West, are you on dapper or edgy/
[12:54] <Rob-West> edgy
[12:54] <felixfoertsch> Rob-West: Just start Synaptic, search for "flightgear" and install the package.
[12:55] <felixfoertsch> Have to restart X-Server. Brb.
[12:55] <coz_> Rob-West, ok and did you get floghtgear from synaptic or did you compile it
[12:55] <coz_> flightgear
[12:55] <Rob-West> how do i open Synaptic
[12:55] <coz_> Rob-West, syste/administartion/synaptic package manager
[12:56] <coz_> Rob-West, or you can type synaptic in the terminal
[12:57] <Rob-West> ok
[12:58] <Rob-West> its installed through Synaptic
[12:59] <coz_> Rob-West, then you didn't install it incorrectly... type the word flightgear in the terminal ans see if it opens
[12:59] <livingdaylig> reverseblade: i'm confused: i 've dont mount /dev/sda1 /mnt which means i 've mounted my sata1 hard drive to my /mnt folder in sdb1 and should now be able to access the /home directory of sda1. Yet, i only seem to get the same /home directroy of sdb1 i'm already in. In other words i don't appear to access sda1 after all despite it apparently being mounted, can you help?
[12:59] <Rob-West> its saying Command Not Found
[01:00] <livingdaylig> *done
[01:00] <reverseblade> livingdaylig, no
[01:00] <reverseblade> livingdaylig, I am no expert on mounting  stuff
[01:00] <coz_> Rob-West, ok apparently that is not the command to open the flightgear..mm hold on
[01:00] <livingdaylig> ok
[01:01] <livingdaylig> Can someone help me with my mounting /mnt issue?
[01:01] <reverseblade> livingdaylig, but you should be more specific about your question, just my 2 cents
[01:01] <fulldisclosure> Hi.
[01:01] <livingdaylig> fulldisclosure: do you know about mounting?
[01:02] <fulldisclosure> Is it necesary to follow all this http://es.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Crear_un_script_rc patterns to make a script?
[01:02] <fulldisclosure> livingdaylig, Yes, tell me.
[01:02] <livingdaylig> fulldisclosure: i 've dont mount /dev/sda1 /mnt which means i 've mounted my sata1 hard drive to my /mnt folder in sdb1 and should now be able to access the /home directory of sda1. Yet, i only seem to get the same /home directroy of sdb1 i'm already in. In other words i don't appear to access sda1 after all despite it apparently being mounted, can you help?
[01:03] <gautam> hi guys
[01:03] <livingdaylig> *done
[01:03] <gautam> i got 1 query
[01:03] <gautam> any1 got php working with apache-ssl here/
[01:03] <coz_> Rob-West, in the terminal type fgfs
[01:04] <gautam> livingdaylig,  what issues ur facing?
[01:04] <fulldisclosure> livingdaylig, You mounted /dev/sdb1 in /home and /dev/sda1 in /mnt and you cant access /mnt ?
[01:04] <coz_> Rob-West, anything
[01:04] <Rob-West> it worked
[01:04] <livingdaylig> gautam: got an issue with mounting my sda1 to my /mnt folder in sdb1
[01:05] <livingdaylig> gautam: i 've dont mount /dev/sda1 /mnt which means i 've mounted my sata1 hard drive to my /mnt folder in sdb1 and should now be able to access the /home directory of sda1. Yet, i only seem to get the same /home directroy of sdb1 i'm already in. In other words i don't appear to access sda1 after all despite it apparently being mounted, can you help?
[01:05] <coz_> Rob-West, ok then that is the command to open it if youwant it in the menu i can guide you through that as well
[01:05] <gautam> ur statement does not seem correct
[01:05] <Rob-West> i think i can do it
[01:05] <livingdaylig> gautam: how so?
[01:05] <coz_> Rob-West, ok guy have fun
[01:05] <gautam> u mounted it to /mnt?
[01:05] <gautam> whats /home gotta do with it?
[01:06] <livingdaylig> gautam: yes, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[01:06] <fulldisclosure> livingdaylig, No, you cant mount in sdb1, you can mount in a void path where you mounted sda1
[01:06] <gautam> fulld,  know anything bout apache-ssl sir
[01:06] <livingdaylig> fulldisclosure: i don't understand. i thought i can access my sda1 from sdb1 by mounting
[01:06] <fulldisclosure> livingdaylig, what is the problem? you should be able to mount it
[01:06] <fulldisclosure> from sdb1?
[01:07] <fulldisclosure> you dont need sdb1 to mount sda1
[01:07] <livingdaylig> gautam: i'm trrying to access my /home from sda1 in sdb1
[01:07] <fulldisclosure> you can mount /dev/sdb1 in /home and /dev/sda1 in /mnt
[01:07] <Rob-West> somegames lag to heck
[01:07] <fulldisclosure> but then sdb1 is not mounted in sdb1
[01:07] <Rob-West> good night
[01:07] <crixtiano> I'm having problems with dist-upgrade, please, can someone to help me ?
[01:07] <gautam> ok guess no1 using apche :(
[01:08] <fulldisclosure> You can mount for example sdb1 in /home and sda1 in /home/livingdaylig/video_partition/
[01:08] <livingdaylig> fulldisclosure: what do you mean i don't need sdb1 to mount sda1?
[01:08] <gautam> livingdaylig,  make a mount point mkdir /media/home
[01:08] <gautam> then sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/home
[01:08] <coz_> Rob-West, have fun with fgfs
[01:08] <livingdaylig> gautam: i have a mount point. it is /mnt is it not?
[01:08] <fulldisclosure> Is it necesary to follow all this http://es.gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Crear_un_script_rc patterns to make a script?
[01:08] <gautam> make new 1
[01:09] <fulldisclosure> no, you dont need to mount A to mount B.
[01:09] <fulldisclosure> :-)
[01:09] <fulldisclosure> gautam, So what is the problem?
[01:09] <gautam> any1 plz apache :)
[01:09] <gautam> i got apache2 working full
[01:09] <gautam> but cant get apache-ssl to work
[01:09] <gautam> its say failed to load mule
[01:09] <gautam> module*
[01:10] <gautam> got php5 here
[01:10] <livingdaylig> gautam i've done it to mount /dev/sdb1 /media/home now what?
[01:10] <livingdaylig> gautam: you said make new one?
[01:10] <fulldisclosure> media home?
[01:10] <fulldisclosure> You should use /home, no more.
[01:10] <gautam> livingdaylig, if u have done it
[01:10] <gautam> livingdaylig,  type /media/home
[01:11] <livingdaylig> yes
[01:11] <gautam> now chk if data is there
[01:11] <gautam> make new 1 meant /mnt wont work
[01:11] <gautam> :)
[01:11] <livingdaylig> gautam: how do i bring sda1 to /media/home?
[01:12] <Seveas> sS
[01:12] <livingdaylig> gautam: mount /dev/sda1 /media/home?
[01:12] <gautam> yes
[01:13] <gautam> fulld, u there mate?
[01:13] <gautam> any help on apache-ssl?
[01:14] <livingdaylig> gautam: ok, so the problem i have is accessing my home folder in sda1
[01:14] <gautam> k
[01:14] <gautam> that did not work?
[01:14] <livingdaylig> gautam: after mounting and cd-ing /media/home how do i access the home part
[01:15] <livingdaylig> coz when i do cd /home i end up back in sdb1
[01:15] <gautam> r u in /media/home?
[01:15] <cyzie> hello is there a way to clear up job in cups ?
[01:15] <livingdaylig> yes
[01:15] <gautam> type ls
[01:15] <livingdaylig> yes
[01:15] <gautam> see folder named home there?
[01:15] <livingdaylig> yes
[01:15] <gautam> type cd home
[01:15] <gautam> there is ur data
[01:16] <livingdaylig> that will take me out of /media/home and back to sdb1
[01:16] <gautam> dude
[01:16] <gautam> livingdaylig,  cd /media/home/home
[01:16] <gautam> thats ur home thingy in sda1
[01:16] <gautam> u can backit up
[01:17] <livingdaylig> gautam: ok this is scary there is nothing in it?
[01:18] <gautam> nothing :o
[01:18] <gautam> ok
[01:18] <gautam> type df -h
[01:18] <gautam> mounted ok?
[01:18] <livingdaylig> y
[01:18] <gautam> u got dual boot?
[01:18] <zim> hi all
[01:18] <cox377> Hello all
[01:18] <livingdaylig> gautam: yes
[01:18] <cox377> when i try to install ubuntu via the gui it keep hanging
[01:19] <gautam> cox less RAM
[01:19] <cox377> would it be possible for someone to tell me that command line for installing it
[01:19] <gautam> get alternate iso
[01:19] <cox377> gautam: what do u mean less ram mate? to much or too little?
[01:19] <gautam> cox377,  less RAM , mean ubuntu GUI needs more RAMhow much u got there mate?
[01:19] <cox377> 192mb
[01:20] <gautam> it is less
[01:20] <gautam> GUI need Min of 256
[01:20] <cox377> Really?
[01:20] <cox377> damn...
[01:20] <gautam> goto ubuntu site and download laternate.iso
[01:20] <gautam> alternate*
[01:20] <livingdaylig> gautam: seems /media/home is mounted mulitple times, is this a problem?
[01:20] <cox377> gautam: is that less thirsty?
[01:20] <livingdaylig> gautam: trying to umount here
[01:20] <zim> am writing a shell script to back up various and at the end need to ftp one tar.gz upto a backup server how would i write a one liner to do this (the script is safe so username and password can be in the line)
[01:20] <gautam> livingdaylig,  ok
[01:21] <livingdaylig> gautam: umount /media/home ?
[01:21] <gautam> livingdaylig,  yes
[01:21] <gautam> ur root right?
[01:21] <gautam> cox377,  that has text install option
[01:21] <livingdaylig> gautam: i forgot sudo
[01:22] <gautam> starnge so many ubuntu users, no1 apache :O
[01:22] <gautam> grrr
[01:23] <poolkey172> hi gautam whats the problem ?
[01:23] <gautam> poolkey172,  hi mate
[01:23] <gautam> i'm trying to config apac-ssl with php
[01:23] <gautam> any ideas?
[01:23] <gautam> apache2 works ok
[01:23] <gautam> having issues with apache-ssl
[01:23] <poolkey172> I guess I can read the documentation and I'm sure u can too :)
[01:24] <poolkey172> this is primarily a ubuntu channel : linux and ubuntu have nothing to do with Apache u c
[01:24] <gautam> poolkey172,  i did read and add php too apache2
[01:24] <gautam> thansk anyways :p
[01:24] <poolkey172> gautam : what does httpd -l say?
[01:24] <gautam> but i'm on ubuntu
[01:24] <gautam> :(
[01:25] <livingdaylig> !paste
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[01:25] <gautam> service wont start
[01:25] <gautam> when i try to Loadmode php5
[01:25] <gautam> gives error
[01:25] <poolkey172> gautam : did u build apache yourself or download it as a package ?
[01:25] <gautam> download it
[01:26] <livingdaylig> gautam: can you peek at this df -h output and see if it tells you anything as to why /media/home/home/conrad is empty http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/34528/
[01:26] <gautam> ok 1 sec
[01:26] <poolkey172> well then again if you've downloaded it and are building it yourself its not gona be supported by the guys here :)
[01:26] <gunfus> hi guys, I have some jobs that I added /etc/cron.daily, and they were running fine. Yesterday, I did some modifications and now they didn't run, any suggestions where to look
[01:26] <gautam> poolkey172,  i downloaded via synaptic
[01:26] <gautam> anyways ty for ur help
[01:26] <cox377> gautam: just put another 256 in it
[01:26] <cox377> gautam: lets hope that fixes it
[01:26] <poolkey172> gautam : cool
[01:27] <gautam> cox377,  ye
[01:27] <gautam> cram more RAM :)
[01:27] <cox377> gautam: so is there really no command line install via normal cd?
[01:27] <Jengu> When I run apt-get update, where does it store the package lists it downloads? I want to copy them to another comp that is having trouble.
[01:28] <gautam> cox377,  nope
[01:28] <gautam> livingdaylig,  it does say /media/home has used 2.3 gb space
[01:28] <livingdaylig> gautam: you see, my sda1 suddenly became inaccessible from login  - wouldn't accept my name/password even though they are correct and i don't know what happened to make it so...So, i don't know and i'm wondering whether that has somethjing to do with not being able to access sda1 via mount
[01:28] <gautam> lot of reason
[01:28] <livingdaylig> gautam: which implies what? that there shouod be 2.3 gb of stuff on it?
[01:29] <cox377> gautam: thats really weird me thinks, is there a lighter version of ubuntu without having to ues a windows manager line openbox