[05:19] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support :)
[05:19] <zcat[1] > ntumba: been running dapper on this lappy for weeks
[05:19] <sesstreets> once or twice
[05:19] <linux_galore> bananasontoast: sudo apt-get update
[05:19] <_jason> sesstreets: should take 10 minutes
[05:19] <bobonthenet> Dapper looks awesome I went to a lecture where I got to see a preview of it.
[05:19] <ntumba> How stable is it? I really want to try it...
[05:19] <sesstreets> okays
[05:19] <sesstreets> where to get?
[05:19] <lgc> nickrud, let me rephrase it: How can I relate these numbers to any event on the X-chat window? For example, what does "19", or any other number, relate to?
[05:20] <zcat[1] > xgl+compiz is awesome..
[05:20] <linux_galore> bananasontoast: if its still not there then you need to add a repository
[05:20] <ntumba> cool @ bobon
[05:20] <nickrud> lgc, that is another question. I found those thru trial and error
[05:20] <zcat[1] > but now it won't run.. they upgraded past what my cheap card can support :(
[05:20] <bananasontoast> linux_galore, yeah it's still not there... How do I do that exactly?
[05:20] <_jason> sesstreets: just remove the package you have now for mplayer plugin first, search google for mplayer plugin, get the deps (sudo apt-get build-dep mozilla-mplayer), read the README, ./configure, make, checkinstall
[05:21] <noisy_1> bimberi, I love you
[05:21] <_jason> sesstreets: oh... and I missed the part where you download the source :)
[05:21] <sesstreets> just tell me how to uninstall it and i can manage the rest
[05:21] <bimberi> noisy_1: please, people are watching :P
[05:21] <bobonthenet> can someone help me with my USB drive problem?  I have to save a final exam on it.
[05:21] <_jason> sesstreets: sudo aptitude remove mozilla-mplayer
[05:21] <noisy_1> I see folders! *tears*
[05:21] <lgc> nickrud, did you say "15" and "31"? Because I changed both and I get the same gray for my postings (though my nick did change).
[05:21] <nickrud> bimberi, I'd never have though you were that shy :)
[05:21] <_jason> sesstreets: note that after you install with checkinstall, you need to manually symlink in the firefox plugin directory
[05:21] <nickrud> lgc, dapper? I'm seeing something similar there
[05:22] <bimberi> nickrud: lol
[05:22] <sesstreets> O_o?
[05:22] <linux_galore> bananasontoast: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/system_administration_books/ubuntu_starter_guide/ch02.html
[05:22] <lgc> nickrud, Breezy.
[05:22] <Pmafia> hey guys whats fedora? is it anothe distro like ubuntu?
[05:22] <_jason> sesstreets: it doesn't make the symlinks in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/ it puts them in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ only, so you symlink to there
[05:23] <linux_galore> Pmafia: Fedora is a developer release of Linux by Red Hat
[05:23] <sesstreets> symlink...
[05:23] <imbrandon> ubuntu == better than fedora, but yea
[05:23] <nickrud> lgc, I don't know then. I do remember having red text & nick, & I was sure I'd changed 15 &31 (the only grey boxes there)
[05:23] <linux_galore> Pmafia: basically your a guinea pig for Red Hat
[05:23] <ntumba> brb
[05:23] <_jason> sesstreets: it's like a shortcut to a file basically
[05:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell sesstreets about symlink
[05:23] <Pmafia> if your using fedora?
[05:23] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes
[05:23] <sesstreets> oks
[05:23] <noisy_1> I like Ubuntu and Debian and have a new found respect for DSL
[05:23] <_jason> sesstreets: you might want to find a breezy user to test the file too, just to make sure it is indeed the version
[05:24] <sesstreets> ..
[05:24] <sesstreets> dude i installed linux yesterday
[05:24] <lgc> nickrud, let me play around with it again...
[05:24] <Pmafia> but the main thing i wanna know is all the main distro's (os's i guess like ubuntu) do they share the same basic core/functions? if i know ubuntu, will i know other distro, how to operate them?
[05:24] <sesstreets> but i get that
[05:24] <sesstreets> anyone: who can play this file? http://www.firefoxflicks.com/flick/index.php?id=19542&c=false
[05:24] <nickrud> lgc, please do, I'll reboot breezy later, but not now
[05:24] <linux_galore> Pmafia: Fedora 5 (called FC5 for short) is nice but at the end of the day you have to ask, what am I getting out of this deal other than allot of broken apps and why cant I get the stable version for free
[05:25] <arrick> hey tonyyarusso if it works guess what I have
[05:25] <lgc> :)
[05:25] <sesstreets> anyone?
[05:25] <imbrandon> Pmafia:  somewhat but core things like apt-get are only in debain and ubuntu , fedora and others use rpm , and gentoo compiles it all from src
[05:25] <imbrandon> etc
[05:25] <tonyyarusso> arrick: Malaria.
[05:25] <linux_galore> yeah yum (the package manager on Fedora) is soooo slooow
[05:26] <lgc> :)
[05:26] <Pmafia> rpm uses same function as sudo?
[05:26] <szandor> !usb
[05:26] <imbrandon> no
[05:26] <ubotu> What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, szandor
[05:26] <arrick> tonyyarusso, you famaliar with a pastebot?
[05:26] <nickrud> Pmafia, hum?
[05:26] <darryl> hi gang, I'm on my new ubuntu install box!
[05:26] <szandor> !hardware
[05:26] <ubotu> well, hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:26] <linux_galore> Pmafia: rpm has nothing to do with sudo there seperate applications
[05:26] <noisy_1> bimberi, what should I put in "hosts allow" ?
[05:26] <nickrud> !tell Pmafia about sudo
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> arrick: Sort of.  Not entirely.
[05:26] <Pmafia> linux_galore, i know but i ment are they simular?
[05:26] <lgc> Mary had a little lamb...
[05:27] <darryl> why am I darryl and not N2DIY? Who cares at this point!
[05:27] <IceTox> Do you know if any other linux friendly bittorent clients?
[05:27] <imbrandon> rpm is more akin to debs than sudo Pmafia
[05:27] <linux_galore> Pmafia: no. sudo is for permissions rpm is a package installer
[05:27] <nickrud> Pmafia, sudo is a means of accessing adminstrative funtions, rpm is a container for installing programs
[05:27] <bimberi> noisy_1: not with you sorry. for samba?
[05:27] <arrick> tonyyarusso, if you copy something and want to paste it, you open the browser, it pastes, you put in your name and it sends the link to the channel automatically
[05:27] <ro> how do you get glxgears to show fps (it doesn't do so for me)
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> arrick: cool.
[05:27] <bimberi> !tell ro about glxgears
[05:27] <Pmafia> nickrud, thanks, linux_galore , thanks, is ubuntu compatible with rpm?
[05:27] <nickrud> -iaknowledgethisisnotabenchmark
[05:27] <nickrud> I think
[05:27] <arrick> tonyyarusso, (the secret is getting it to work all the way
[05:28] <noisy_1> yeah for samba
[05:28] <noisy_1> #=anyone?
[05:28] <nickrud> Pmafia, no. There are ways of using rpms, but they are an absolute last gasp
[05:28] <linux_galore> Pmafia: there are two main competing package format with Linux (yes I know there are others) one is rpm the other is .deb
[05:28] <Whyvas> ro, glxgears -printfps
[05:28] <imbrandon> sudo == switch user ( ie su ) do something ( ie the command you tpe afterwords like apt-get ) if no user is specified it assumes root I.E. "sudo apt-get" will run apt-get as root instead of the user your loged in as
[05:28] <ro> bimberi, Whyvas: cheers
[05:29] <Pmafia> linux_galore, so which one if any, does ubuntu use?
[05:29] <nickrud> Pmafia, always look for a deb, there are as many/more debs as there are rpms
[05:29] <imbrandon> apt-get
[05:29] <linux_galore> Pmafia: no rpm's are not 100% compatable with Debian based systems but some will work with the alien command
[05:29] <imbrandon> deb
[05:29] <Pmafia> linux_galore, ubuntu is debian based?
[05:29] <linux_galore> Pmafia: ubuntu uses .deb
[05:29] <ro> bimberi: On a similar note, you wouldn't happen to know any decent benchmarking tool?
[05:29] <imbrandon> Pmafia: yes
[05:29] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes
[05:29] <Pmafia> sweet
[05:29] <CNAP> anybody know how to fix this?
[05:29] <CNAP> Cannot find mozilla installation directory. Please set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your mozilla directory
[05:30] <N2DIY> test
[05:30] <N2DIY> That's better.
[05:30] <nickrud> Pmafia, but don't expect to use a debian deb on ubuntu, no more than you would a suse deb on redhat
[05:30] <nickrud> s/suse deb/suse rpm/ :)
[05:30] <Pmafia> what format does redhat use?
[05:30] <Pmafia> nickrud, you just completely confused me
[05:30] <linux_galore> Pmafia: getting used to this choice thing can have its ups and down sides heh heh
[05:30] <eyequeue> RedhatPackageManager
[05:30] <zcat[1] > N2DIY: hi from zl3cat :)
[05:31] <kkathman> yum
[05:31] <lgc> nickrud, it's "15" & "31". The last one is for the postings...
[05:31] <noisy_1> bimberi: on samba I can access my home for that user but the shares I set up say I have no permissions
[05:31] <kkathman> thats what RedHat/Fedora uses :)
[05:31] <linux_galore> Pmafia: red hat uses rpm thus Red Hat Package rmp
[05:31] <linux_galore> rpm*
[05:31] <nickrud> Pmafia, sorry :) Base rule: use only packages that you can apt-get while using official ubuntu sources.
[05:32] <linux_galore> Pmafia: Redhat Package Manager = rpm sorry
[05:32] <zcat[1] > ubuntu repos or build it from source.. anything else is likely to break stuff.
[05:32] <bimberi> noisy_1: iirc it uses whatever permissions your user has
[05:32] <CNAP> Cannot find mozilla installation directory. Please set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your mozilla directory
[05:33] <Pmafia> linux_galore, clears stuff up a bit lol, apt-get only downloads from ubuntu website?
[05:33] <CNAP> how do i fix that?
[05:33] <morphix> how can i get crontab to execute my script every 30 mins??
[05:33] <nickrud> CNAP, that is something I haven't seen in a long time, what are you compiling?
[05:33] <Flannel> Pmafia: it only downloads from your repositories, which are all at ubuntus website (or a mirror)
[05:33] <cuong> exit
[05:33] <CNAP> nickrud, actually i just apt-get'ed monodevelop, ran it and got that
[05:33] <arrick> tonyyarusso, copy something, and try this out for me please? http://pastebot.no-ip.org put your name in and click submit please?
[05:33] <blu3_c> hi
[05:33] <imbrandon> Pmafia: it only downloads from sites that are listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> arrick: 'k.
[05:33] <noisy_1> I have /hdb/ mounted and I want to share it to user "tim", I gave tim permission on SWAT, but tim cant access
[05:34] <Pmafia> for example, somebody earlier told me of a program, a OSX dock for KDE, lets say i install KDE... what would that program use?
[05:34] <Akari> hmm
[05:34] <noisy_1> how do I give tim permission?
[05:34] <nickrud> CNAP, heh. that's an error I thought would be very old, can I see the whole error?
[05:34] <blu3_c> i have trouble with gyach, anyone can help me?
[05:34] <bimberi> ro: sorry i don't
[05:34] <CNAP> nickrud, you did. that's the error message
[05:34] <linux_galore> Pmafia: no you can find other repositores, apt-get will download from all sites listed in the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:34] <nickrud> CNAP, thats it?!
[05:34] <CNAP> CNAP@mr-jax-210-48:~$ monodevelop
[05:34] <CNAP> Cannot find mozilla installation directory. Please set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to your mozilla directory
[05:34] <CNAP> frankie@mr-jax-210-48:~$
[05:35] <linux_galore> Pmafia: you can add your own
[05:35] <blu3_c> _jason, do you use gyach?
[05:35] <arrick-pastebot> "tonyyarusso" at <IP_ADDRESS> pasted "My current /etc/fstab" (16 lines) at http://arrick.no-ip.com:10020/1
[05:35] <nickrud> CNAP, try export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla , that'd be my first stab at it
[05:35] <_jason> blu3_c: nope
[05:35] <linux_galore> Pmafia: some listed on apt.org
[05:35] <ro> does anyone know of any generic benchmarking tools?
[05:35] <skpl_> has anyone else had trouble using their ipod with ubuntu?
[05:35] <CNAP> nickrud: export? how?
[05:35] <Madpilot> who owns the pastebot?
[05:35] <Pmafia> so before you download/install something, you must enter it in the source.list file?
[05:35] <lgc> eyequeue, Hi!
[05:35] <CNAP> nickrud: i don't even know what's MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME
[05:36] <eyequeue> hi lgc
[05:36] <Pmafia> if you want to directly install from the web?
[05:36] <linux_galore> Pmafia: just beware if you use none official package repositories things can break
[05:36] <Flannel> Pmafia: no, sources.list has the location of the place of a LOT of packages, everything supported by ubuntu
[05:36] <nickrud> CNAP, try typing exactly: MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla monodevelop
[05:36] <Flannel> Pmafia: its like a directory of all the software
[05:36] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: you don't download random crap and run it.. that's the windows way of doing things.
[05:36] <Madpilot> Pmafia, you use Synaptic for most installs, or apt-get
[05:36] <lgc> eyequeue, say, are you familiar with "cdrecord"?
[05:36] <_jason> Madpilot: does pastebot mean http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  ?
[05:36] <blu3_c> well, thanks
[05:36] <Flannel> Pmafia: everything you see in synaptic/apt/etc is in the repositories
[05:36] <noisy_1> how do I set file permissions?
[05:36] <eyequeue> lgc, no
[05:36] <Madpilot> _jason, no, pastebot means the arrick-pastebot that just posted above
[05:36] <eyequeue> noisy_1, chmod
[05:36] <CNAP> nickrud: whoa...ok now how did you know that would work? ;-)
[05:36] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yeah there are methods to do that, theres a thing called "klick" that allows you to install packages in a fully self contained container like with windows
[05:37] <lgc> eyequeue, hmm...I've been trying to get some help for a while now...
[05:37] <_jason> Madpilot: ah ok :)
[05:37] <ricardo_> ei galera blz
[05:37] <arrick> _jason, im testing a pastebot out
[05:37] <nickrud> CNAP, I used to compile galeon, and back in the day I had to know that environment variable. You should file a bug
[05:37] <ricardo_> #J /ubuntu-br
[05:37] <Pmafia> hmmm....confused but learning the linux way...
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> arrick: You catch that?
[05:37] <Pmafia> what is synaptic, what is repository?
[05:37] <wastrel> ahh galeon
[05:38] <CNAP> cnap: when googling that error message, i kept finding stuff on galeon. what's galeon?
[05:38] <sesstreets> _jason, damnit not working
[05:38] <ricardo_> #/ j ubuntu-br
[05:38] <_jason> sesstreets: what the compile?
[05:38] <Madpilot> !tell Pmafia about synaptic
[05:38] <sesstreets> yeah
[05:38] <sesstreets> I use ./configure --with-gecko-sdk=/path/to/gecko-sdk --enable-gtk1
[05:38] <Madpilot> !tell Pmafia about repos
[05:38] <sesstreets> i mean not that
[05:38] <lgc> ricardo  /j #ubuntu-br
[05:38] <imbrandon> ricardo_: /j #ubuntu-br
[05:38] <sesstreets> ./configure --enable-x --with-gecko-sdk={path to gecko sdk}
[05:38] <noisy_1> how do I use chmod? "chmod -c <filename> <username>" ?
[05:38] <arrick> yeah I got it, now I gotta figure out how to use it from inside the network, wo I can view it
[05:38] <nickrud> CNAP, a very nice browser
[05:38] <ricardo_> imbrandon, valeu
[05:38] <sesstreets> but at the end it says something about not using gtk will remove functinoality now what
[05:39] <imbrandon> yw
[05:39] <linux_galore> Pmafia: well with Linux to secure things what we did was put all the packages on a server and create a "package manager" that downloads and install stuff for you and makes sure you dont break things, the advantage with this is you dont end up with apps that have been tampered with
[05:39] <Madpilot> noisy_1, no. "chmod <permissions> <filename>
[05:39] <nickrud> CNAP, it's in the repos
[05:39] <eyequeue> noisy_1, no, there's no username with chmod.  "man chmod" for syntax
[05:39] <arrick> Madpilot, I own the pastebot, hence the name arrick attached
[05:39] <sesstreets> and make gives me hundreads of errors
[05:39] <arrick> sorry didnt get your post right away
[05:39] <_jason> sesstreets: join me in offtopic
[05:39] <CNAP> nickrud: i'll look it up. thanks for the assist ;-)
[05:39] <eyequeue> noisy_1, man chown if you need to change the owner to another username
[05:39] <zcat[1] > like windows 'add/remove windows components' except that instead of just a dozen things that come with windows, synaptic gives you access to about 17,000 packages
[05:40] <Madpilot> arrick, OK - just wondering - I'm sure you know that bots come in for more scrutiny than regular users - some of them have bad manners...
[05:40] <Pmafia> linux_galore, okay , so its basically like way more organized then windows, lets say a software developer released a software for ubuntu, they have to contact ubuntu get a certification type clearance and list it on the sources.list?
[05:40] <linux_galore> Pmafia: one of the big problems with Windows are you can install software from all over the place often the programs even though looking like an official copy of an app. lest say mozilla the version on the server has been tampered with and has a virus in it
[05:40] <gtrplr>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY gtplr
[05:40] <Thinjon100> What's the curses library called again so I can install it? I thought he said libncurses, but apt-get can't find that
[05:40] <gtrplr> LOL
[05:40] <gtrplr> can you say wups?
[05:41] <arrick> Madpilot, yep
[05:41] <Madpilot> gtrplr, time to change your nick :P
[05:41] <Flannel> Pmafia: something like that, yeah.  Of course, users areallowed to install stuff not in the official repos,
[05:41] <gtrplr> naw
[05:41] <Madpilot> gtrplr, password, rather
[05:41] <eyequeue> or at least password :)
[05:41] <linux_galore> Pmafia: no Ubuntu team keep an eye on the releases
[05:41] <nickrud> CNAP, I'm serious about the bug, I don't use monodevelop but that's not right
[05:41] <gtrplr> if someone wants it THAT bad
[05:41] <gtrplr> who cares
[05:41] <noisy_1> can I chmod to make multiple users the owner?
[05:41] <gtrplr> :)
[05:41] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: ubuntu devs will package it if it looks useful or people want it.. make sure it does what it says, sign the package so you know you're getting exactly what they packaged..
[05:41] <Pmafia> how would i install a non official program?
[05:41] <morphix> in crontab, wouldnt 30 * * * * make the script execute every 30 mins??
[05:41] <Madpilot> noisy_1, no - chmod is just permissions, not ownership
[05:41] <arrick> hey Madpilot now I gotta figure out how I can give the name out and view the pastes, cause the location is inside my network
[05:42] <eyequeue> gtrplr, well, judging by the /topic, i'd guess this channel would ...
[05:42] <mikomiko> how do i run a notepad
[05:42] <eyequeue> noisy_1, a file only has one owner
[05:42] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: there's almost nothing you'd want that isn't already in the repos.
[05:42] <noisy_1> operate on files and folders recursively?
[05:42] <eyequeue> noisy_1, you may want to investigate groups, man chgrp, man adduser
[05:42] <merc> i just did a dist-upgrade (kdm failed, but whoopty doo), im trying to get automatix to run, but it wont because it says it wont work on breezy/etc..  shouldn't the dist-upgrade have made it the latest version available?
[05:42] <Pmafia> but lets say its a custom program from a friend or something, something that isnt public, how would i go about installing it
[05:43] <gtrplr> any way to update gnome2.14 without changing from breezy to dapper?
[05:43] <Pmafia> sorry, i just wnat general knowledge about linux
[05:43] <Flannel> gtrplr: the easy way is to update to dapper ;)
[05:43] <bananasontoast> linux_galore, thanks a lot, I finally got Psi working... Now I just need to work on Wireless networking and sound... :(
[05:43] <eyequeue> Pmafia, dpkg -i foo.deb
[05:43] <zcat[1] > ok.. assuming it's source; download it first..
[05:43] <CNAP> nickrud: what do you mean?
[05:43] <gtrplr> Flannel, tried that twice
[05:43] <Madpilot> Pmafia, did you see the two pm's from the bot?
[05:43] <morphix> >> in crontab, wouldnt 30 * * * * make the script execute every 30 mins?? <<
[05:43] <zcat[1] > then untar (tar xzf foo.tgz)
[05:43] <gtrplr> it pukes on my wireless card
[05:43] <Madpilot> morphix, man crontab
[05:43] <Flannel> gtrplr: then, youll juts have to wait, well, if you want an easy way.
[05:43] <CNAP> nickrud: i'm just trying to pick up C# and i've already gotten problems from the start
[05:44] <Pmafia> Madpilot, yes i did
[05:44] <zcat[1] > then build it; cd foo-x.y.z/ ; ./configure ; make ; sudo make install
[05:44] <Flannel> gtrplr: erm, has it been since the beta?
[05:44] <gtrplr> I can do the garnome
[05:44] <gtrplr> but...
[05:44] <skpl_> can someone tell me how to get mplayer in dapper?
[05:44] <morphix> Madpilot: i have.. and that is what i "think" would execute every 30 mins.. can u just tell me if i am right?
[05:44] <gtrplr> flange, last night
[05:44] <nickrud> CNAP, I gave up programming C back in the k&R days, but a bug is a bug
[05:44] <gtrplr> wups
[05:44] <Flannel> its ok
[05:44] <Flannel> I got it ;)
[05:44] <gtrplr> Flannel, last night
[05:44] <arrick> hey tonyyarusso you got a lot of partitions
[05:44] <eyequeue> !tell skpl_ about mplayer
[05:44] <arrick> wow
[05:44] <gtrplr> damn
[05:44] <gtrplr> brb
[05:44] <Madpilot> morphix, I actually don't know - haven't done much with crontab
[05:45] <CNAP> nickrud: k&r?
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> arrick: And I'm adding more  :P
[05:45] <morphix> :(
[05:45] <Flannel> well, file a bug report, so the devs will know to look into it, otherwise the actual release still might not have support
[05:45] <arrick> haha
[05:45] <nickrud> CNAP, kernigan & richie
[05:45] <arrick> tonyyarusso, I have 8 hd's on mine, with 40 partitions
[05:45] <arrick> haha
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> arrick: Nice.
[05:45] <noisy_1> how much space?
[05:45] <arrick> tonyyarusso, you want to buy my extra plugn play pci-dual ide adapter?
[05:46] <arrick> noisy_1, that for me?
[05:46] <noisy_1> mhm
[05:46] <zcat[1] > arrick: scsi or ide?
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> arrick: Not in the market for any upgrades until I find a job.
[05:46] <arrick> zcat[1] , ide
[05:46] <zcat[1] > hmm..
[05:46] <merc> i just did a dist-upgrade (kdm failed, but whoopty doo), im trying to get automatix to run, but it wont because it says it wont work on breezy/etc..  shouldn't the dist-upgrade have made it the latest version available?
[05:46] <arrick> I can give you a link to my page hang on zcat[1]
[05:47] <zcat[1] > I used to have a mobo with four ide ports onboard, and 2 scsi's..
[05:47] <slavik> zcat[1] : server board?
[05:47] <zcat[1] > yeah.
[05:47] <zcat[1] > dual cpu too
[05:47] <slavik> nice
[05:48] <slavik> my school got 6 quad xeon systems :D
[05:48] <Pmafia> madpilot, thanks. i have a better understanding now
[05:48] <zcat[1] > had about 6 ide drives + 2 cdroms + a few scsi drives at one point..
[05:48] <CNAP> kickrud: what's that?
[05:48] <skpl_> can someone show me what a sources.list file with multiverse enabled looks like? i do not have multiverse in my sources.list
[05:48] <slavik> zcat[1] : CD-RW and DVD-RW I think
[05:48] <noisy_1> say I wanted to give tim permission to read and write /hdb/ ... "chmod rw " <-- I'm lost at this point
[05:48] <eyequeue> !tell skpl_ about repos
[05:49] <Flannel> !sources
[05:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:50] <wastrel> i have a laptop with ubuntu
[05:50] <nickrud> CNAP, it's a book written by the original authors of C , before it got standardized & extended.
[05:50] <slavik> wastrel: same here
[05:50] <slavik> wastrel: checkout the laptop testing team
[05:50] <zcat[1] > wastrel: I'm on a laptop ruinning dapper now..
[05:50] <arrick> hey zcat[1]  check out the page at http://arrick.no-ip.com/index_013.htm
[05:51] <CNAP> nickrud: yeah i just googled it
[05:51] <merc> how do i find out if im running breezy/dapper/warty etc?
[05:52] <Pmafia> so by adding custom software you have to add a resportry line like "  deb http://www.getsweaaa.com/~tseng/ubuntu/debs ./ "
[05:52] <nickrud> CNAP, I spent many fruitful hours reading that book, it's almost as useful as Strunk
[05:52] <zcat[1] > i have a few dual-ide adapters spare already. two drives is enough for me now though
[05:52] <eyequeue> merc, look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:52] <Madpilot> Pmafia, you should be very, very careful about adding extra repos - it can break your system in a surprising hurry...
[05:52] <nickrud> 's The Elements of Style
[05:52] <merc> eyequeue: thanks
[05:52] <wastrel> lsb_release -a
[05:53] <merc> wastrel: thanks!
[05:53] <Thinjon100> Has anyone tried compiling ALSA on Breezy?  I'm tryign to get my soundcard to work, but every time I try to compilu the utils, it demands a curses library (but I have the latest ncurses installed)
[05:53] <Pmafia> most likely i wont, but i just want to get a understanding of the linux system, because im new, i just wnat to know how to get around certain things, how to perform certain functions, so i can improve my general knowledge, your help is greatly appreciate :D
[05:53] <merc> ok, next question... i just ran dist-upgrade, and its friggin hoary...shouldnt it be breezy?
[05:54] <slavik> Thinjon100: did you install the ncurses dev library?
[05:54] <CNAP> merc: you need to update the sources.list to reflect breezy
[05:54] <Pmafia> also how would you go about installing from a file you downloaded already, or a file on cd...?
[05:54] <Thinjon100> slavik: I don't think so, is that something I'll need?
[05:54] <skpl_> can someone tell me if there is an mplayer plugin for firefox?
[05:54] <merc> CNAP: is there a howto or something for this?
[05:54] <ro> how does someone find out what system architecture they have?
[05:54] <eyequeue> merc, you run update and dist-upgrade *after* you make the desired changes to sources.list
[05:54] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: depends on the file..
[05:55] <Madpilot> !upgrade
[05:55] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[05:55] <merc> thanks
[05:55] <Pmafia> zcat[1] , what do you mean, what exactly are the dependables?
[05:55] <jadaz87> hello what is the direct path to the cdrom not the /media/cdrom0 one i am talking about the /dev/something
[05:55] <slavik> Thinjon100: if you are compiling something that says you are missing it, you need the dev lib of that thing
[05:55] <Thinjon100> slavik: Thanks a lot... that got it working :)
[05:55] <CNAP> merc: check this out: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntulinux.nl%2Fsource-o-matic&ei=OExMRNa6DZGcsQHvi9n4Ag&sig2=zIsy3z0xnQg4ejnrqncq1Q
[05:55] <slavik> np
[05:55] <merc> thanks for the help guys
[05:56] <noisy_1> wow, chmod is confusing
[05:56] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: most linux stuff is distributed as source so it can be built on a variety of systems.. usually you untar it and find a textfile called README which tells you how to build it.
[05:56] <nickrud> Pmafia, there are four classes of installable software: debs (hug) source(work) rpm(arms length) everything else(tongs)
[05:56] <imbrandon> if a program needs certain lib installed ( LIKE dll's from the windows world ) it will install them automaticly
[05:56] <noisy_1> !chmod
[05:56] <ubotu> from memory, chmod is a command used to change the permissions of a file or folder. see `man chmod` for a synopsis.
[05:56] <jadaz87> nickrud do you what is the direct path to the cdrom not the /media/cdrom0 one i am talking about the /dev/something
[05:56] <nickrud> jadaz87, /dev/hd* most likely, unless you you have scsi
[05:57] <jadaz87> nickrud how do i know which one?
[05:57] <zcat[1] > AFK..
[05:57] <Pmafia> you guys already explain what debs and rpm is, what is source?
[05:57] <skpl_> which is better, totem-xine or totem-gstreamer?
[05:57] <imbrandon> Pmafia: source code
[05:57] <jadaz87> !deb & rpm
[05:57] <ubotu> jadaz87: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:57] <BTDog> source is the original code
[05:57] <noisy_1> chmod [OPTION] ... MODE[,MODE] ... FILE...   <---- where is the username?
[05:58] <noisy_1> -_-"
[05:58] <Pmafia> which can be compiled into whatever class you wish?
[05:58] <nickrud> jadaz87, a cdrom will have a line where ls -l /dev/hd* will have cdrom 22,  0 appears; a dvd will have cdrom 22, 64 (based on my machine)
[05:58] <eyequeue> noisy_1, again, there is NO username in that command syntax.  man chmod, man chown
[05:58] <imbrandon> it can be compiled into binary then made into a rpm or deb or both
[05:58] <noisy_1> How do I give Tim permission?
[05:58] <wastrel> chmod can be confusing.  it helps to draw it out on a piece of paper when you're first learning it.
[05:58] <imbrandon> but it takes a bit more skill
[05:59] <eyequeue> noisy_1, man adduser as well
[05:59] <imbrandon> than installing a deb
[05:59] <noisy_1> I have the user added, that was the easy part
[05:59] <Pmafia> ubuntu comes with a compiler?
[05:59] <wastrel> noisy_1:  how can you gie tim permission to do what?
[05:59] <linux_galore> Pmafia: ok developers releaser there programes/code as source, basically a source file is just a simple text file full of programming junk that you dont need to understand right now
[05:59] <noisy_1> to /hdb/
[05:59] <eyequeue> noisy_1, you used the group syntax of adduser?
[05:59] <wastrel> Pmafia:  actually no, you can install one easily though
[05:59] <imbrandon> Pmafia: you can install a compiler by running "apt-get install build-essential"
[05:59] <nickrud> Pmafia, it's human readable stuff, before you let the compiler at it to make machine readable code. deb's & rpm's are specific instances of stuff after the compiler got at it, along with some massaging by the developer
[05:59] <noisy_1> nah, it added it when I installed
[05:59] <Pmafia> linux_galore, yeah i know..
[06:00] <eyequeue> noisy_1, to what group did you add that user?
[06:00] <noisy_1> how do I check?
[06:00] <wastrel> groups tim
[06:00] <UKMatt> if I install a program, and it's not listed under Applications, how do I get to it?
[06:00] <eyequeue> noisy_1, you're the one who typed the command, not i
[06:00] <linux_galore> Pmafia: to install the source what we do is turn them into binaries and what a distributions does is put those binaries on a cd and on a repository
[06:00] <Pmafia> thanks guys, "apt-get install build-essential" is the command i would need then...
[06:00] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes apt-get is all you need to know
[06:00] <noisy_1> : tim dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev
[06:01] <Pmafia> linux_galore, linux systems are all based on internet?
[06:01] <nickrud> Pmafia, yes, if you want to compile source. You will need to get specific support packages for what you want to compile;
[06:01] <imbrandon> Pmafia: most are
[06:01] <Pmafia> if I didnt have any inernet? i would be screwed as far as performing my options?
[06:01] <wastrel> noisy_1:  ok so now you want tim to be able to access /hdb/  which i assume is the mount point for a windows drive or something?
[06:01] <linux_galore> Pmafia: even then thats an option because you can also use synaptic, thats basically a clicky graphical version of apt
[06:01] <noisy_1> yeah, an ntfs drive I want to backup
[06:02] <doms> how can i add GTK+ to my gnome
[06:02] <imbrandon> Pmafia: ummm you COULD use linux without the internet but it would be about the same as windows without the internet, what point is it?
[06:02] <nickrud> doms, gtk+ is a prerequisite for gnome, ?
[06:02] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: I suggest you get familiar with what's already installed (about 1000 packages) and what's readily available in multiverse (about 17,000 packages) before you worry about stuff that isn't packaged..
[06:02] <Pmafia> i think windows has better functionality without internet
[06:02] <doms> ic
[06:02] <UKMatt> does anyone use Rhythmbox?
[06:02] <doms> that is installed already in gnome
[06:02] <UKMatt> - with an iPod that is
[06:02] <nickrud> zcat[1] , make that about 8000 apps & 17000 packages :)
[06:02] <Pmafia> because all the main install comands that i know of are apt-get which are dependant on the internet
[06:03] <seamus-laptop> Anyone from the laptop team in here?
[06:03] <linux_galore> Pmafia: windows doesnt install an office suite by default
[06:03] <imbrandon> Pmafia: apt-get can install from cd-rom too ;)
[06:03] <Pmafia> a unattendant install does...
[06:03] <linux_galore> Pmafia: apt-get also works for stuff on the cd
[06:03] <linux_galore> or dvd
[06:03] <wastrel> noisy_1:  and you are mounting that drive with the "user" flag?
[06:03] <noisy_1> http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/ <-- it is pretty interesting
[06:03] <Pmafia> linux_galore, really? how does the cd version of apt-get work?
[06:04] <noisy_1> I don't know wastrel
[06:04] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yep
[06:04] <imbrandon> and windows dosent come with games or office stuff or pdf readers or trons of other stuff like gimp ( photoshop like graphic editor )
[06:04] <arrick> anyone: if you want to use the pastebot at any time, just type !pastebot to get the address, put your username in and click submit, the paste link will be automatically added here
[06:04] <imbrandon> etc
[06:04] <wastrel> noisy_1:  how are you mounting the drive?  is it automatic?
[06:04] <noisy_1> yeah
[06:04] <noisy_1> pretty sure it is
[06:04] <zcat[1] > the CD is a repository.. apt-get and synaptic can use it just like any other
[06:04] <eyequeue> Pmafia, it's the same apt-get, but sources.list has an entry for the cd or dvd
[06:04] <noisy_1> I think it made it automatic automatically
[06:04] <wastrel> noisy_1:  check in /etc/fstab and see if there's a line for /hdb/
[06:04] <noisy_1> I mounted it once and never had to again
[06:04] <Pmafia> ok ok im getting it.......
[06:04] <Pmafia> so before you use apt-get you have to make an entry in the source.list
[06:05] <nickrud> Pmafia, exactly!!
[06:05] <Madpilot> Pmafia, if you want a different repo, yes
[06:05] <zcat[1] > the whole install is just packages off the CD..
[06:05] <Pmafia> meaning whatever you set in source.list the file can be anywhere, harddrive? cdrom? website, ect...
[06:05] <monsterb> !java
[06:05] <imbrandon> yea but the default sources.list has over 17000 packages
[06:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:05] <UKMatt> I have two quick questions for someoneeee....
[06:05] <eyequeue> Pmafia, sources.list should come already populated with the standard entries
[06:05] <linux_galore> Pmafia: remember apt-get see's anything that listed in the /etc/apt/sources.list file even cd's and dvd or even a flash usb thumb drive
[06:05] <nickrud> Pmafia, you can get add just about anyone's repo there, just be careful whose.
[06:05] <Madpilot> UKMatt, please just ask them, don't ask to ask...
[06:05] <noisy_1> there is no entry for /hdb/
[06:05] <UKMatt> madpilot, no one's answering!
[06:05] <Pmafia> okay.........now where getting somewhere lol
[06:06] <imbrandon> Pmafia: its just when you get them from the inet you get the latest etc
[06:06] <eyequeue> UKMatt, ask the questions, if someone knows the answer they will answer
[06:06] <linux_galore> Pmafia: so if you want to know what apt-get see's just type cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:06] <nickrud> Pmafia, a good place to experiment is http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:06] <UKMatt> anyways the first is: in Rhythmbox, it recognizes my iPod when it is connected, and reads the songs and allows me to play them, but it only reads the first couple artists, and not the rest, I wanted to know if there was a way to get it to read them all so that I could access ALL my music
[06:06] <imbrandon> agrees ^^
[06:07] <Pmafia> nickrud, thanks for the site.
[06:07] <nickrud> Pmafia, thank seveas, I just get to parrot it
[06:07] <Pmafia> linux_galore, what do you mean, type cat.
[06:07] <noisy_1> what should I put for <options> <dump> and <pass> for /hdb/ in fstab?
[06:07] <arrick> tonyyarusso, if you want to us the pastebot, its at !pastebot
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> arrick: 'k.
[06:07] <eyequeue> Pmafia, "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[06:07] <Pmafia> in the terminal i type cat /ect/apt/ect,,,,
[06:07] <wastrel> noisy_1:  i think you should read this page and follow the instructions for mounting the drive with the "user" flag turned on - that will allow users to access files on the drive.  link is:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:07] <linux_galore> gtkpod*
[06:08] <Pmafia> where do i type that?
[06:08] <noisy_1> thanks wastrel
[06:08] <imbrandon> Pmafia: command prompt
[06:08] <linux_galore> Pmafia: cat basically lists whats in the file
[06:08] <Madpilot> Pmafia, Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[06:08] <arrick> zcat[1] , you see the part?
[06:08] <eyequeue> Pmafia, your terminal
[06:08] <linux_galore> Pmafia: in a terminal type  cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:08] <Pmafia> cat loads up the file browser basically?
[06:08] <linux_galore> Pmafia: no
[06:08] <imbrandon> no
[06:08] <Pmafia> the specific file?
[06:09] <eyequeue> Pmafia, no, cat is an app that does this:  cat (1)              - concatenate files and print on the standard output
[06:09] <linux_galore> Pmafia: it basically just throws what in the file onto the screen for viewing
[06:09] <zcat[1] > cat concatenates a number of files and sends the result to stdout..
[06:09] <wastrel> yes
[06:09] <zcat[1] > "one or more files"
[06:09] <imbrandon> Pmafia: think of the terminal as the "dos prompt" and "cat" is the same as the dos command "type" , so 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list" will just show you whats in that file
[06:09] <UKMatt> I don't think anyone knows, so my second (this is trivial I know... but...) I installed Scorch3d playing around just trying to learn Ubuntu, and followed all the directions including editing the text insterting whatever, and it doesn't show up on any application list, it seems to be installed I just don't know how to get to it
[06:09] <Pmafia> eyequeue, you should make it simplier like linux_galore does lol
[06:09] <wastrel> zero or more files actually
[06:10] <wastrel> with no file argument it defaults to stdin
[06:10] <imbrandon> Pmafia: think of the terminal as the "dos prompt" and "cat" is the same as the dos command "type" , so 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list" will just show you whats in that file
[06:10] <graft> hey does anyone know a decent music player that can browse itunes shares?
[06:10] <zcat[1] > bah, zero or more files then!
[06:10] <Pmafia> imbrandon, thanks.
[06:10] <arrick> Madpilot, check out my pastebot, !pastebot is open for use
[06:10] <eyequeue> Pmafia, that is not my output, that is the standard output from "whatis cat"
[06:10] <heatxsink> graft:  banshee
[06:10] <nickrud> graft, rhythmbox :::)
[06:10] <zcat[1] > cat with zero files reads from stdin though, doesn't it?
[06:10] <graft> curses! none for kde?
[06:10] <UKMatt> graft, i'm trying Rhythmbox so far
[06:10] <davecb> how can i install xubuntu desktop on breezy?
[06:10] <heatxsink> graft:  hehe, oh man you run kde?
[06:10] <heatxsink> hahaha
[06:10] <UKMatt> graft, i hear a lot about amarok too
[06:10] <crimsun> davecb: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:10] <imbrandon> davecb: yes
[06:11] <heatxsink> graft:  j/k
[06:11] <nickrud> graft, I hear amarok has a lot of functionality, try that one
[06:11] <linux_galore> heatxsink: install xfce
[06:11] <Pmafia> dictionary definitions are always more confusing
[06:11] <graft> heatxsink: uh, yeah, i do... it's actually way more popular than gnome
[06:11] <eyequeue> davecb, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:11] <davecb> crimsun,  but already did that i dont get nothing :S i think i need the repository link :S
[06:11] <linux_galore> heatxsink: all xubuntu is is the base ubuntu system with the xfce desktop
[06:11] <heatxsink> graft:  I was just joking around
[06:11] <arrick-pastebot> "Madpilot" at <IP_ADDRESS> pasted "test paste" (1 line) at http://arrick.no-ip.com:10020/3
[06:11] <jmg> anyone run ubuntu on a macbok pro?
[06:11] <UKMatt> why?! lol
[06:11] <noisy_1> how do I restart fstab to change my mounts?
[06:12] <Pmafia> file browser is whats used to browse the contents of the drive right?
[06:12] <eyequeue> noisy_1, /etc/fstab is sourced upon need, no "restart" involved
[06:12] <heatxsink> graft:  are there numbers or some kind of metric that keeps track of that?
[06:12] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes
[06:12] <noisy_1> ok
[06:12] <nickrud> noisy_1, try mount -a ; you may need to umount/mount specific points if you have changed /etc/fstab
[06:12] <linux_galore> Pmafia: in Linux everything is a file, even hardware
[06:12] <Madpilot> Pmafia, yes - Places -> Home or any of the entries in the Places menu
[06:12] <graft> heatxsink: um. there's polls and stuff... nothing rigorous
[06:12] <Pmafia> linux_galore, the one thing i dont get, i dont see any drives? can you have different drives like in windows,? c:/ d:/ ect...
[06:12] <linux_galore> Pmafia: the drives thing is actually fake
[06:13] <heatxsink> graft:  ahh, hrm....there should be though don't you think?
[06:13] <linux_galore> Pmafia: its just a link
[06:13] <graft> well rhythmbox was pretty coo last time i tried it... which was like... four years ago
[06:13] <noisy_1> umount /hdb/ ?
[06:13] <jmg> UKmatt: just asking
[06:13] <graft> heatxsink: sure... how would you do it, exactly?
[06:13] <wastrel> noisy_1:   yes that should work.
[06:13] <nickrud> Pmafia, one of the fundamental differences in unix is one unified file system; c:/ or d:/ would be mounted somewhere in the base filesystem
[06:13] <linux_galore> Pmafia: you can create a link to anything an call it anything
[06:13] <heatxsink> graft:  probably make some kind of web service that talks to clients
[06:13] <noisy_1> do i need to remount it with fstab?
[06:14] <graft> heatxsink: 90% of linux users wouldn't do it on account of privacy concerns
[06:14] <Pmafia> what if you have 2 hard drives?
[06:14] <heatxsink> graft:  so that when KDE / GNOME is installed  it'll +1
[06:14] <nickrud> noisy_1, sudo umount /dev/<point> && sudo mount /dev/<point>
[06:14] <Pmafia> its going to show filesystem 1 and filesystem 2?
[06:14] <arrick> hey Madpilot it worked: hoorah
[06:14] <heatxsink> graft:  there's a metric for that too?
[06:14] <graft> heatxsink: you could get statistics from, e.g. debian servers
[06:14] <arrick> thanks
[06:14] <heatxsink> hrmm..
[06:14] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes I can create a link to lest say Windows on /dev/hda1  and call it Windows C:
[06:14] <graft> that's probably doable.... actually they post package popularity counts
[06:14] <noisy_1> wow, linux rules
[06:14] <Madpilot> arrick, np - you should talk to Sev. and get the regular ubuntu pastebin working that way
[06:15] <nickrud> Pmafia, hm, let me look for a quick tutorial on the way it works
[06:15] <arrick> mad
[06:15] <arrick> haha
[06:15] <Pmafia> nickrud, thanks really appreciate it
[06:15] <arrick> Madpilot, this bot is here to stay no worries
[06:15] <linux_galore> Pmafia: put the link on the desktop
[06:15] <Pmafia> linux_galore, im wonering because i have 2 hard drives
[06:15] <heatxsink> graft:  well check out banshee it's far from polished but it works with browsing iTunes shares
[06:15] <Pmafia> how would linux recognize them?
[06:16] <monkey> I need to know how to compile programs with this distro. Others I could ./configure make and make install. how is this done on here?
[06:16] <Pmafia> both of them included inthe "filesystem"
[06:16] <arrick> Madpilot, had lot of help from buu in #perl with it though, he sshed in to help set it up tonight
[06:16] <wastrel> Pmafia:  one hard drive contains the "root" and the other hard drive appears as a directory under "root"
[06:16] <Pmafia> or seperate filesystems
[06:16] <arrick> Madpilot, been working on it for 4 days now
[06:16] <linux_galore> Pmafia: when Linux boots up it looks in a file called /etc/fstab  and sets up the devices listed in there
[06:16] <eyequeue> monkey, the standard commands work in ubuntu
[06:16] <eyequeue> monkey, sudo apt-get install build-essential, first
[06:16] <Madpilot> monkey, install build-essential package, then do the make/etcetc dance
[06:16] <nickrud> Pmafia, http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/ <-- this is the technical version
[06:16] <wastrel> Pmafia:  floppy disks and cd's are treated the same way.  the main, root filesystem is always at the top of the file tree
[06:17] <monkey> ahhhh cool
[06:17] <Pmafia> wastrel, so "my computer" is "root" in this case?
[06:17] <graft> heatxsink: will do
[06:17] <linux_galore> Pmafia: another thing you will notice linux has no registry like windows all the system configuration files (accept user stuff) are in the /etc directory, there all text files too and can be edited by hand
[06:17] <Madpilot> Pmafia, kind of. Linux & MS setups don't really map exactly to each other
[06:17] <patrick24601> IS there any way to make synaptic automatically resolved dependency issues
[06:18] <nickrud> Pmafia, http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102/ <-- I'd be interested if you consider this one useful
[06:18] <mikomiko> Is there a way to view a video protected by DRM technology in linuz
[06:18] <Madpilot> patrick24601, um, it should already to that...
[06:18] <noisy_1> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb, missing vodepage or other error. In some cases useful info is found in syslog... etc
[06:18] <eyequeue> patrick24601, it should by default
[06:18] <patrick24601> I can't upgrade cairo because of libstd6++, then I cannot up grade that becaise of something else
[06:18] <skpl_> can someone help me? i am having trouble playing a .wmv file
[06:18] <arrick> Pmafia, ms root is C:/windows on some, and C:/windows nt on others
[06:18] <linux_galore> Pmafia: My Computer is actually not a file its an application in windows
[06:18] <mikomiko> those that only run in windows media player and needs of a license
[06:18] <patrick24601> I keep getting error messages that a dependency is not at the correct version
[06:18] <heatxsink> graft:  sweet
[06:18] <wastrel> Pmafia:  what they said :]
[06:18] <Pmafia> lol
[06:18] <eyequeue> too much ms in here for me
[06:19] <Pmafia> will linux auto detect my hard drives/devices?
[06:19] <UKMatt> jmg, what was that? didn't see
[06:19] <wastrel> noisy_1:  you need to make sure the fstab entry for your hdb is set to use ntfs, and has flags appropriate for ntfs drives
[06:19] <arrick> hahahahahaahah
[06:19] <gn0m3> guys i need help
[06:19] <linux_galore> Pmafia: what my computer does is run a hidden app that checks the windows registry then shows them
[06:19] <arrick> Pmafia, depends on if it is in /etc/fstab
[06:19] <devnull_> hello ... i was wondering what happened to gnome multimedia selector ?
[06:19] <noisy_1> "/dev/hdb        /hdb/           ntfs    ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000     $"
[06:19] <noisy_1> is that right?
[06:19] <patrick24601> i.e. The following package have unresolvable dependencies
[06:19] <Pmafia> nickrud, that website is actually useful
[06:19] <gn0m3> anyone willing to spend a few minutes and help me
[06:19] <arrick> but most of them it will, ntfs you gotta set up manually in order to view it
[06:19] <Madpilot> gn0m3, please just ask your questions, someone will answer if they can
[06:19] <wastrel> !ask
[06:19] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[06:19] <gn0m3> oops
[06:19] <arrick> gn0m3, what up?
[06:20] <gn0m3> what program do you guys use
[06:20] <gn0m3> to play avi files
[06:20] <graft> mplayer
[06:20] <UKMatt> skpl_ as far as i know you'll have to convert to some other format
[06:20] <devnull_> because i can't have sound in xmms and firefox at the same time
[06:20] <Madpilot> patrick24601, messages like that often seem to mean your sources.list is messed up...
[06:20] <devnull_> and it is very annoying
[06:20] <arrick> !restricted
[06:20] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:20] <Pmafia> but i dont understand? will it automatically detect it, if i shutdown, install it, and boot up? or do i hve to put some kind of shortcut in the root?
[06:20] <nickrud> Pmafia, I skimmed it, saw it talked about things that were relevant, but since I'm not reading it from scratch, I wasn't sure
[06:20] <arrick> gn0m3, ^^ see ubotus post
[06:20] <gn0m3> i saw it
[06:20] <patrick24601> madpilot: Easy to fix?
[06:20] <gn0m3> thanks
[06:21] <graft> avi is a restricted format?
[06:21] <noisy_1> yep
[06:21] <doms> wer i can download suite for my breezy badger what i nid is like a teacher grade tracking sytem
[06:21] <Madpilot> patrick24601, set your sources.list back to the standard Ubuntu ones, and you should be OK
[06:21] <Madpilot> !tell patrick24601 about repos
[06:21] <wy> NickGarvey:  Are you here?
[06:21] <arrick> doms check open office
[06:21] <wastrel> noisy_1:   change  /hdb/  to /hdb    get rid of $  and add 0  0  to the end
[06:22] <noisy_1> the 0 0 wont fit
[06:22] <nickrud> avi is not a restricted format, it's a container; it can contain a restricted format
[06:22] <wastrel> how do you mean it won't fit?
[06:22] <noisy_1> oh nvm
[06:22] <gn0m3> arrick:: nothing there about avi
[06:22] <wastrel> k
[06:22] <wy> I can't use mouse and keyboard within qemu. Why?
[06:22] <arrick> noisy_1, you dont have to have the 0 0 in there necessarily
[06:22] <gn0m3> arrick: know any players i can use?
[06:22] <arrick> gn0m3, see graft
[06:22] <doms> openoffice i hav installed a openoffice what i mean is something programming that can automate my grading system
[06:23] <Pmafia> anybody?
[06:23] <graft> yeah i'm a shameless mplayer advocate
[06:23] <linux_galore> Pmafia: ??
[06:23] <Pmafia> but i dont understand? will it automatically detect it, if i shutdown, install it, and boot up? or do i hve to put some kind of shortcut in the root?
[06:23] <biovore> graft: same here
[06:23] <unperson> I'm having trouble recording with the sound recorder tool.
[06:23] <arrick> doms, look for database templates that will work with o.0
[06:23] <gn0m3> graft: what do u use for .avi video playback
[06:23] <Pmafia> for the hard drive...
[06:23] <linux_galore> Pmafia: if you add the hardisk
[06:23] <linux_galore> ??
[06:23] <graft> gn0m3: mplayer, as i said
[06:23] <wastrel> beam robotics
[06:23] <Pmafia> oh there's an option to add...
[06:23] <noisy_1> wastrel still gives the same error
[06:23] <gn0m3> graft: where can i get that
[06:24] <devnull_> does gnome multimedia selector exist anymore ?
[06:24] <unperson> Eventually I'd like to be able to record from the microphone, but at the moment I'd settle for being able to record from any source.
[06:24] <arrick> gn0m3, you using a gui?
[06:24] <graft> gn0m3: it's in the repository if you enable 'multiverse'
[06:24] <linux_galore> Pmafia: you can add yes
[06:24] <alex__> Hello everyone
[06:24] <doms> what was the site of openoffice pls.
[06:24] <wastrel> noisy_1:  i don't have a ntfs partition... maybe someone else can show you their fstab with an example ntfs line
[06:24] <noisy_1> should I get rid of fmask and dmask?
[06:24] <arrick> !o.o
[06:24] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[06:24] <gn0m3> graft: im a noob so i have no idea what your asking me
[06:24] <nickrud> devnull, nope
[06:24] <arrick> !openoffice
[06:24] <Pmafia> another example, lets say i want to connect my cam corder via USB to my computer, can linux do that?
[06:24] <graft> ubotu tell gn0m3 about multiverse
[06:24] <ubotu> Do they come in packets of five. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, arrick
[06:24] <arrick> help me out guys
[06:24] <linux_galore> Pmafia: yes
[06:24] <nickrud> devnull, don't ask me what's the alternative, either :)
[06:24] <linux_galore> Pmafia: dont have to reboot either
[06:25] <linux_galore> Pmafia: and its automatic
[06:25] <noisy_1> can anyone please show me their fstab mount for an ntfs?
[06:25] <Pmafia> Nice.
[06:25] <zcat[1] > Pmafia: most of the time it's like windows.. just plug stuff in and ubuntu finds it..
[06:25] <alex__> Hello im new in here
[06:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell noisy_1 about ntfs
[06:25] <graft> uh, the openoffice site is openoffice.org
[06:25] <Pmafia> zcat[1] , except the hard drive right?
[06:25] <graft> which also happens to be the frickin' name of the program
[06:25] <fogos> hi... someone uses 915resolution?
[06:25] <zcat[1] > hard drive tpp O think..
[06:25] <zcat[1] > too
[06:25] <nickrud> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1 noisy_1 <--- this was created by a dapper install
[06:25] <linux_galore> Pmafia: you will have to manually add the extra hardrive to the setup
[06:26] <doms> you openoffice from template
[06:26] <Pmafia> where's the setup? in the root somewhere?
[06:26] <B166ER> uh, i know its kind of simple, but i just reinstalled, and i forgot what to do so ubuntu can detect my windows HD ?
[06:26] <zcat[1] > linux_galore: it doesn't get detected and added in /media/ ?
[06:26] <B166ER> 'hda1'
[06:26] <Hobbsee> !tell B166ER about windowsdrives
[06:26] <wastrel> !tell B166ER about mountwindows
[06:26] <monkey> where is the kernel path located or how can I find out for myself
[06:26] <arrick> Pmafia, once you install, you can ask in here for help
[06:26] <devnull_> why is it the documentation never matches what is in the repositories ?
[06:26] <linux_galore> zcat[1] : not always I found
[06:26] <Pmafia> arrick, what difference does it make, if i format today, i will need to install it tomorrow...
[06:26] <arrick> who is zed?
[06:27] <_jason> nickrud: did dapper really set up umask=007 and gid=46 what is that group?
[06:27] <sesstreets> im am zed
[06:27] <doms> i hav already installed a openoffice what i mean is something programming that can automate my grading system
[06:27] <arrick> Pmafia, easier to help you do that setup when you have to fstab in hand
[06:27] <noisy_1> do I need anything in options when I mount?
[06:27] <sesstreets> _jason, LATERS
[06:27] <jmg> zed is for zacharaiah
[06:27] <_jason> sesstreets: adios
[06:27] <linux_galore> doms: ??
[06:28] <zcat[1] > zed's dead baby! </tarintino>
[06:28] <graft> devnull_: this is the classic failure of free software projects. crap documentation.
[06:28] <graft> fortunately they have great live support!
[06:28] <devnull_> ya it happens
[06:28] <nickrud> _jason, yes, I just had to step away. I copy&pasted that before I read it :)
[06:28] <devnull_> yes
[06:28] <devnull_> good point
[06:28] <arrick> zcat[1] , he just dcc me, and I wanted to know who the (*&93421 he was
[06:28] <devnull_> though ubuntu is extremely terribly poor with restricted formats
[06:28] <Pmafia> when you install a new hard drive, it creats a fstab file in the root? and you have to edit that?
[06:28] <unperson> So no one has any idea how to record sound, eh?
[06:28] <CNAP> nickrud, is there a permanent way i can set MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME to The mozilla directory
[06:28] <linux_galore> graft: Ive always found something on www.google.com/linux
[06:28] <graft> yeah... even debian is less hardcase about that stuff
[06:28] <devnull_> which are the formats everyone in the world uses and there is no way to force people to use anything else
[06:28] <beefsprocket> unperson: audacity is good for recording
[06:28] <nickrud> _jason, plugdev
[06:28] <Pmafia> sorry in the /etc/vfstab
[06:28] <arrick> Pmafia, yes
[06:29] <arrick> /etc/fstab
[06:29] <doms> i'am looking for a grading system
[06:29] <zcat[1] > I always thought it did pretty well considering that in most cases support for them in ubuntu is prohibited by law..
[06:29] <_jason> nickrud: cool, I'm glad to see it takes care of them like that now.  It would be nice for disks-admin to let the user edit perms too though imo
[06:29] <nickrud> CNAP, yes, you can add export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla to /etc/profile , it should be valid
[06:29] <unperson> beefsprocket, Eh, at the moment I just want to be able to record sound period.  I don't care with what program.
[06:30] <linux_galore> doms:  www.freshmeat.net
[06:30] <beefsprocket> unperson: try audacity then
[06:30] <nickrud> _jason, the device permissions & the like are moving so darned fast, it's almost scary
[06:30] <CNAP> nickrud, would you be kind enough to tell me how? appreciate all your help on this
[06:30] <Pmafia> does linux sometimes autodetect? or you have to always manualy fix the fstab file?
[06:30] <linux_galore> doms: no shortage of school apps
[06:30] <wastrel> doms:  check freshmeat
[06:30] <monkey> where is the kernel path located or how can I find out for myself?
[06:31] <unperson> beefsprocket, Should I expect audacity to work if sound recorder is not?
[06:31] <arrick> Pmafia, sometimes if you are lucky, but most of the time ntfs has to be configured by hand to be viewable
[06:31] <nickrud> CNAP, gksudo gedit /etc/profile      , then add that line to the end of that file & save it. When you next log out and back in, it should be active
[06:31] <CNAP> nickrud, i knew that ;-)
[06:31] <linux_galore> monkey: /boot
[06:31] <beefsprocket> unperson: I had a hard time getting soundrecorder to capture anything
[06:31] <gn0m3> _jason: sup man
[06:31] <Pmafia> arrick, alow, what is the best format for linux fat32, fat or ntfs?
[06:31] <doms> i did not find any matches on freshmeat
[06:31] <zcat[1] > Linux does better detecting ntfs than windows does detecting ext3 or reiserfs :)
[06:31] <arrick> Pmafia, ext3
[06:31] <devnull_> even the suggested packages dont exist
[06:31] <zcat[1] > reiserfs!!
[06:31] <Pmafia> do most hard drives support that?
[06:32] <arrick> yes
[06:32] <gn0m3> graft: hey graft what do i do after i install repositories
[06:32] <graft> does windows even detect ext3 or reieserfs?
[06:32] <arrick> nope
[06:32] <graft> gn0m3: just install mplayer-686
[06:32] <Pmafia> lol
[06:32] <Madpilot> Pmafia, the hard drive doesn't care what it's formatted to
[06:32] <zcat[1] > hard drives don't 'support' filesystems, they just store bitpatterns
[06:32] <gn0m3> graft: i couldnt find anything with mplayer
[06:32] <gn0m3> graft: lemme check again
[06:32] <linux_galore> graft: not by default there are apps though that will let windows do so
[06:32] <graft> gn0m3: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[06:32] <Pmafia> madewokherd, indeed.
[06:32] <graft> linux_galore: yeah, probably written by linux zealots
[06:32] <wastrel> doms:  not sure what you're looking for, but i found several gradebook apps on freshmeat just now :]   i like to check before i send ppl over
[06:32] <beefsprocket> unperson: I posted this on the forums re audacity: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154375&highlight=beefsprocket+audacity
[06:32] <noisy_1> how many mhz is in a simple + - / * hand calculator?
[06:33] <Pmafia> do you have the option to format it ext3 when your performing a fresh install?
[06:33] <beefsprocket> noisy_1: how fast can you push the buttons :P
[06:33] <linux_galore> graft: always use shares
[06:33] <graft> meanwhile linux has had a fricking GMail-based filesystem for like a year now
[06:33] <nickrud> Pmafia, yes, that's the default ubuntu file type
[06:33] <zcat[1] > noisy_1: i think they're asynchronous
[06:33] <linux_galore> graft: if you lazy just use a thumb drive
[06:33] <devnull_> sorry for complaining ... just not in a good mood about the state of any debian based distro
[06:33] <FearMoth> what ports do gnome-btdownload use by default?
[06:34] <zed> hi, ubuntu-peple! :) my isa-soundcard doesn't work at all :( how i canfix it? (mediaforte with fm-tuner)
[06:34] <kestas> zcat[1] : nah theyre not asynchronous
[06:34] <CNAP> NICKRUD: HOLY CRAP! i just opened that file...where in the hell do i put that line?
[06:34] <arrick> hey Pmafia check ou tthe next post
[06:34] <graft> linux_galore: sometimes that's not good enough... i mean i can't always keep all my stuff on an independent networked server
[06:34] <arrick> !dualboot
[06:34] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:34] <noisy_1> bah, I'll figure the rest of this out tomorrow
[06:34] <zcat[1] > on well.. probably <<1MHz
[06:34] <noisy_1> I'm off to ZzZz
[06:34] <noisy_1> later
[06:34] <linux_galore> graft: ooh you mean meta search, yeah Linux has had that for ages, way more than a year
[06:34] <Pmafia> the next post?
[06:34] <nickrud> CNAP, just go to the bottom, add it there :)
[06:34] <doms>  TabCompletionGradeBook-1.0-beta4.1.jar i download that then i ran it something missing on his programming
[06:34] <arrick> that will help immensly if you look at ubotus last post
[06:34] <doms> no view of reports
[06:34] <graft> linux_galore: no, i mean a gmail file system... it uses gmail to build a fully transparent network file system
[06:35] <Pmafia> "eyequeue wants you to know: [rute]  a great guide for learning about Linux and is available at http://rute.2038bug.com/" is the last post
[06:35] <gn0m3> graft: it didnt work [sudo command]
[06:35] <unperson> beefsprocket, Ok, I'll check it out.
[06:35] <arrick> Pmafia,
[06:35] <arrick> !dualboot
[06:35] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[06:35] <linux_galore> graft: gmail is a service not a file system
[06:35] <graft> http://richard.jones.name/google-hacks/gmail-filesystem/gmail-filesystem.html
[06:35] <nickrud> CNAP, but, I still think it's a bug that you need to do that. I'll never run monodevelop myself so I can't usefully file it
[06:35] <Pmafia> thanks
[06:35] <freeninad> Hi
[06:35] <arrick> np :^)
[06:35] <linux_galore> graft: you mean use the gmail account as a virtual storage system
[06:35] <zcat[1] > gmail stores bitpatterns. You can use it as a filesystem!!
[06:35] <graft> gn0m3: do you have multiverse enabled?
[06:35] <freeninad> I had 1 problem
[06:35] <doms> no view of reports
[06:35] <graft> linux_galore: yeah
[06:36] <gn0m3> i have universe enabled
[06:36] <linux_galore> graft: yeah that been around for about 3 years
[06:36] <kestas> nothing virtual about it
[06:36] <graft> gn0m3: you need multiverse i think
[06:36] <arrick> night all
[06:36] <blindx> the trash is ~/.Trash -- correct?
[06:36] <CNAP> nickrud: i agree
[06:36] <freeninad> can any one help
[06:36] <devnull_> is there an easy way to get xmms and firefox to use ESD at the same time ?
[06:36] <nickrud> CNAP, so file it :)
[06:36] <arrick> evening to you cowboy nickrud
[06:36] <kestas> blindx: not all of it, if you have a mountpoint in ~/asdf/ then there'll be a trash at ~/asdf/.Trash too
[06:36] <wastrel> doms:  http://www.gnu.org/software/ggradebook/  maybe.  It's not in the repos though...  also you might want to ask the edubuntu folks about gradebook software.
[06:36] <devnull_> well even a hardway would do
[06:36] <linux_galore> graft: even more funky link gmail to beagle and you have a virtual meta search system for all your remote backup files
[06:36] <CNAP> nickrud: what other IDE's can i use for C#>
[06:36] <graft> linux_galore: heh... not likely, gmail isonly 2 years old
[06:36] <nickrud> arrick, yeah, I'm here sowing discontent & discord, how about you :)
[06:36] <freeninad> my windoze connection for internet shows
[06:36] <_jason> devnull_: tell firefox to use aoss
[06:37] <Thinjon100> Can anyone give me any guidance in installing wine?  I can't seem to find it in the packages... tried adding the backports to my sources.list but it still doesn't show
[06:37] <blindx> kestas: but that wouldn't show up in the icon in the bottom right, would it?
[06:37] <_jason> gn0m3: hi
[06:37] <freeninad> connect using ISDN channel
[06:37] <kestas> blindx: it should
[06:37] <arrick> I was too, check out my pastebot nickrud, !pastebot
[06:37] <blindx> hm.
[06:37] <freeninad> and this has been congigured as dialup
[06:37] <linux_galore> graft: for you maybe :-)
[06:37] <nickrud> !pastebot
[06:37] <ubotu> methinks pastebot is http://pastebot.no-ip.org
[06:37] <freeninad> how to set this up in ubuntu
[06:37] <devnull_> _jason, how do you do that ?
[06:37] <blindx> welllll... how come right clicking and "Empty Trash" doesn't rid me of trash? :D
[06:37] <devnull_> i have no multimedia selector for gnome anymore
[06:37] <_jason> devnull_: are you using default firefox in breezy?
[06:37] <k31th> Guys im trying to use pam_mkhomedir.so to make a users home dir the first timr they log into SquirrelMail (SquirrelMail needs a home dir to store email and files). However im failing how can i see whats happening ? is there a way of finding out wat error its throwing back ?
[06:37] <doms> ok thanks wastrel
[06:38] <devnull_> _jason, dapper
[06:38] <nickrud> arrick, actually not bad, especially if it defaulted to #ubuntu for the channel
[06:38] <_jason> devnull_: #ubuntu+1 for dapper support please
[06:38] <devnull_> okay
[06:38] <kestas> blindx: is the trash still in .Trash? do you have any mountpoints which would also have Trash? which files are left? any weird permission problems?
[06:38] <arrick> nickrud, it does when accesed from in here
[06:38] <Thinjon100> Anybody know how to install wine?
[06:38] <arrick> and it sends the link here autmatically nickrud
[06:38] <TehDotCommunist> I have a problem where I have magenta line all over my monitor, scrolling makes more lines, moving a window turns that window completely magenta, rebooting doesnt help......and it true cymk magenta
[06:38] <arrick> Thinjon100, sudo apt-get wine
[06:38] <TehDotCommunist> any ideas?
[06:38] <kestas> Thinjon100: if you cant figure out how to install it you wont get very far using it
[06:39] <linux_galore> Thinjon100: apt-get install wine
[06:39] <arrick> yeah that to linux_galore
[06:39] <nickrud> arrick, not from here, it goes to (none) Is this machine available 24/7?
[06:39] <arrick> haha
[06:39] <blindx> kestas, clicking the icon opens up Trash, obviously, but nothing's there.... hovering over the icon gives me "18 Items in Trash" -- I've tried Ctrl+h, they're not hidden..
[06:39] <graft> TehDotCommunist: do you have lines when you boot, before the OS starts up?
[06:39] <arrick> yep
[06:39] <Thinjon100> I tried that... it returned an error... said it couldn't install, but it was referenced by another package
[06:39] <TehDotCommunist> graft, nope, not till X loads
[06:39] <gn0m3> graft: doesnt work
[06:39] <doms> anybody can help me wer i can get more sample programs in gambas with free source code? is possible i can use like MS Access for my gambas? is their something an altertaive of MS Access in OpenOffice
[06:40] <graft> TehDotCommunist: hm. well i had that problem and it was just my card being fried
[06:40] <arrick> ok, I gotta fix that part, should go to the channel its attached to
[06:40] <claiton> hello
[06:40] <Thinjon100> Package wine has no installation candidate
[06:40] <kestas> blindx: hmm, not sure, open up a terminal and look in the .Trash places
[06:40] <graft> gn0m3: mplayer is definitely in multiverse
[06:40] <nickrud> _jason, you wouldn't happen to have a link in your forebrain for plugdev would you?
[06:40] <gn0m3> i just checked
[06:40] <kestas> blindx: try removing the trash icon and putting it back afterwards
[06:40] <gn0m3> is there a section its in?
[06:40] <doms> is open base like a MS access
[06:40] <graft> gn0m3: you have multiverse enabled, you did sudo apt-get update?
[06:40] <_jason> nickrud: nope, first time I heard about it
[06:40] <Flannel> doms: yes, there is. OOo "Base"
[06:40] <kestas> doms: its way worse, but yeah
[06:41] <linux_galore> Thinjon100: mean wine isnt on any or the repositories listed in the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[06:41] <linux_galore> Thinjon100: you need to add one
[06:41] <arrick> linux_galore, Thinjon100 needs easyaource to help him ut
[06:41] <gn0m3> yes
[06:41] <claiton> only in English ?
[06:41] <nickrud> I'm beginning to think I wanna kick some kernel developers to heck & gone, except I couldn't do without them
[06:41] <blindx> kestas, no mount points had a .Trash, but removing the icon cleared the situation up. Thanks.
[06:42] <arrick> nickrud, yep
[06:42] <linux_galore> Thinjon100: or run apt-get update
[06:42] <Flannel> claiton: we have other channels for other languages, which are you looking for?
[06:42] <crimsun> nickrud: eh?
[06:42] <TehDotCommunist> graft, here is the screen http://s9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/bhchance/?action=view&current=Screenshot.png
[06:42] <Thinjon100> Will try that
[06:42] <graft> gn0m3: then sudo apt-get install mplayer ought to work...
[06:42] <gn0m3> ok
[06:42] <gn0m3> thanks
[06:42] <doms> can i make a data connection from my gambas front-end to my Open Base for my back-end
[06:42] <nickrud> crimsun, I'm just slow to keep up with the hotplug/udev/plugdev/????? changes
[06:42] <claiton> i wold prefer in portuguese
[06:43] <claiton> or .... i want in Potuguese
[06:43] <nickrud> crimsun, if you happen to know of a document that would bring me up to date ....
[06:43] <wastrel> !pt
[06:43] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[06:43] <claiton> !pt
[06:43] <Pmafia> well, for a beginner i do find linux very confusing, as i did when i first used a windows, i appreciate all your help guys, this is probly the most helpful irc channel i ever been too lol, thanks again for everything guys, good night.
[06:43] <claiton> alright!! Thanks!!
[06:43] <crimsun> nickrud: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2005-December/000028.html
[06:44] <Flannel> doms: you should look into a real database if youre looking to do anything substantial programming-wse
[06:44] <arrick-pastebot> "arrick" at <IP_ADDRESS> pasted "hello" (1 line) at http://arrick.no-ip.com:10020/4
[06:44] <linux_galore> bbl watching video
[06:44] <Thinjon100> Ahhh... apparently there aren't any debs for wine in 64-bit architecture :(
[06:44] <arrick> sorry about that wrong channel
[06:44] <gn0m3> graft: are u sure its called mplayer
[06:44] <graft> TehDotCommunist: um. that's a very tiny screenshot, but i guess the problem is most likely your monitor or your video card...
[06:45] <mikomiko> I am using UBUNTU GNOME. I want to view some videos protected with DRM, i previously can be view them using WMP with license
[06:45] <graft> gn0m3: yeah, i'm sure... want to pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:45] <harisund> Hello people, I want my machine to have a static ip. How do I set its DNS servers using the command line?
[06:45] <doms> i'am not familiar for the other database built-in linux
[06:45] <doms> like SQl
[06:45] <graft> mikomiko: you're screwed, sorry
[06:45] <gn0m3> graft: can u repeat that in english [ima beginner]
[06:45] <crimsun> harisund: you'd enter that data into /etc/network/interfaces. man 5 interfaces
[06:45] <graft> ubotu tell gn0m3 about pastebin
[06:46] <blmartin777> what is the dapper chat
[06:46] <harisund> crimsun, I know .. but man interfaces doesn't have any information for entering the dns details.
[06:46] <crimsun> harisund: as for the dns servers, place those into /etc/resolv.conf
[06:46] <graft> #ubuntu+1, blmartin777
[06:46] <blmartin777> ubuntu+1 is that right
[06:46] <gn0m3> graft: oh this thing
[06:46] <arrick> mikomiko, find the css code and remove the DRM
[06:46] <gn0m3> graft: what did you want be to paster
[06:46] <harisund> crimsun: Ah smooth .. thanks a ton man !
[06:46] <graft> gn0m3: /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:46] <gn0m3> graft: how do i get that
[06:47] <graft> arrick: you can't remove WMV drm with css, only DVDs
[06:47] <nickrud> crimsun, thanks. Of course, your personal experience expands on that :)
[06:47] <arrick> graft ok
[06:47] <CNAP> nickrud: can you do me a favor and check the pastebin to see if i've entered the path correctly? i'm not getting any change in behavior
[06:47] <arrick> CNAP, paste the link
[06:47] <nickrud> CNAP, which pastebin?
[06:47] <graft> gn0m3: um. you can type 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list'
[06:47] <arrick> CNAP, use !pastebot
[06:48] <rob138> does ssh only work within a lan?
[06:48] <Thinjon100> !pastebot
[06:48] <ubotu> well, pastebot is http://pastebot.no-ip.org
[06:48] <arrick> rob138, with wireless as well
[06:48] <nickrud> !pastebin
[06:48] <graft> no, ssh works everywhere...
[06:48] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[06:48] <CNAP> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12822
[06:48] <CNAP> !pastebot
[06:49] <nickrud> CNAP, change that line to   '   export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla  '
[06:49] <gn0m3> graft: hey graft this is the link                 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12823
[06:49] <nickrud> CNAP, when you log out & back in, monodevelop will use that data
[06:49] <arrick> see what i mean about chaos nickrud (heheh hahah) night
[06:50] <CNAP> nickrud, ok let me try it
[06:50] <nickrud> arrick, yes, I do. I love amorphousness
[06:50] <gn0m3> graft: did it work
[06:50] <arrick> nickrud, old habbits die hard dont they?
[06:51] <graft> gn0m3: err... okay, so you want to comment out the second two 'deb' lines, the ones for 'breezy main restricted'
[06:51] <rob138> arrick, what would prevent my laptop from connecting to a computer through ssh, unless it is connected in the same lan?
[06:51] <graft> gn0m3: then you want to comment out the next two, the ones for 'breezy-updates'
[06:51] <arrick> rob138, you need to show the error
[06:51] <arrick> or tell what it is
[06:51] <graft> gn0m3: then comment out the next two, for breezy universe
[06:52] <wastrel> rob138:  firewall or NAT blocking access
[06:52] <arrick> most of the time cause you have it setup for the internal lan, not the external ip with port 22 forwarded to that puter
[06:52] <graft> gn0m3: then change 'breezy-backports' in the next two deb lines to just 'breezy'
[06:52] <nickrud> arrick, speaking of habbits, there's a neighborhood in the portland area that has all street names of streets from the tolkien
[06:52] <rob138> all it says is connection time out port 22
[06:52] <rob138> how do i change the setup?
[06:53] <arrick> and you are trying to connect to which ip?
[06:53] <wastrel> rob138:  connecting from where and to where
[06:53] <gn0m3> graft: OMG i found it== it was  mozillamplayer
[06:53] <rob138> from this computer i am on wirelessly, to my desktop computer
[06:53] <graft> gn0m3: and finally, comment out the second-to-last deb line, for 'breezy universe'
[06:53] <arrick> you connect fin internally correct?
[06:53] <graft> gn0m3: no, that' snot it... sorry :)
[06:53] <gn0m3> graft: X]
[06:53] <doms> oooooooooo i c  a tools>Database MAnager from gambas
[06:53] <doms> cool haaaaaaaaaa
[06:53] <doms> no need for openbase
[06:53] <rob138> arrick, what do you mean?
[06:53] <gn0m3> graft:  where and how do i comment the lines
[06:54] <arrick> if you hook hardwire, you connect without timing out?
[06:54] <rob138> yes
[06:54] <graft> gn0m3: err just stick a # in front of them
[06:54] <arrick> wastrel, you getting this?
[06:54] <gn0m3> gnome:  where do i add a number
[06:54] <graft> gn0m3: err actually i'll do it and pastebin the new file for you, ok?
[06:54] <gn0m3> ok
[06:54] <gn0m3> ThANKS
[06:55] <Alives> whats wrong with this sudo entry? %www-data ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL /usr/share/cacti/scripts/iptables.pl
[06:55] <arrick> graft, tryout !pastebot
[06:55] <arrick> much easier
[06:55] <gn0m3> ubotu tell gn0m3 about pastebot
[06:55] <rob138> arrick, is my laptop just looking on the wireless network i'm on for the IP?
[06:56] <arrick> not necessarily, you have the ip of the desktop pc that your trying to connect to right?
[06:56] <graft> !pastebot
[06:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebot is http://pastebot.no-ip.org
[06:56] <arrick> and the are on the same router?
[06:56] <rob138> yes
[06:56] <rob138> no
[06:56] <CNAP> oy vey...
[06:56] <arrick> ok, thats your problem then
[06:57] <rob138> arrick, what is?
[06:57] <CNAP> nickrud: i did what you said and still doesn't want to work. i not only logged out, but rebooted
[06:57] <arrick> one of the routers is blocking the ssh
[06:57] <graft> err... anyway, gn0m3, replace the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list with the version here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12824
[06:57] <arrick-pastebot> "sfar" at <IP_ADDRESS> pasted "This is a test" (2 lines) at http://arrick.no-ip.com:10020/5
[06:57] <sfar> kewl
[06:57] <sfar> :D
[06:57] <gn0m3> graft: dont mean to be dumb but how do i replace :)
[06:57] <nickrud> CNAP, in a terminal (in X) env | sort ; does MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME appear ?
[06:57] <rob138> arrick, what do i need to do?
[06:57] <arrick> is the wirless ap the same that you hook into witht the wire?
[06:58] <graft> gn0m3: err... open it in your favorite editor, delete the contents, put the new ones in?
[06:58] <rob138> arrick, no
[06:58] <gn0m3> graft: err  im lost
[06:58] <graft> gn0m3: try 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' for the easiest one
[06:58] <CNAP> nikcrud, no
[06:58] <CNAP> nickrud, no
[06:58] <arrick> you need to forward port 22 on the wireless ap to the router that your desktop is hooked to then
[06:58] <gn0m3> graft: ok when i do that
[06:59] <rob138> arrick, how do i do that?
[06:59] <arrick> what is your wireless ip #?
[06:59] <rob138> <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:00] <arrick> that looks more like your actual ip address, you have more than one?
[07:00] <arrick> or is that an internal one?
[07:00] <gn0m3> graft: what do i do after that
[07:00] <rob138> arrick, you're going over my head, what am i looking for if not my ip?
[07:00] <nickrud> CNAP, I'm gonna skip all the right stuff, and tell you a hack: create the file ~/.gnomerc , and add the line export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla     to that file.
[07:01] <nickrud> CNAP, don't forget to file a bug about this
[07:01] <arrick> your internal ip on your network, not your isp#
[07:01] <rob138> arrick, how should i figure that out?
[07:01] <CNAP> nickrud, i've done a little research and i don't think i'm the first one to complain about it. but i'll file one anyway just so they don't forget about it
[07:01] <arrick> type iwconfig in terminal
[07:02] <arrick> look for the gateway address then post that
[07:02] <nickrud> CNAP, bugs get dealt with one way or another someday, if the bug doesn't exist the issue will drop thru the cracks.
[07:02] <grap3> Can I install kernal headers from some place other than the installation cd? It's refusing to work from the cd for some reason.
[07:02] <arrick> what namebrand is your "router" rob1
[07:02] <arrick> rob138, ^^
[07:02] <graft> gn0m3: um, okay, pasted in the new version? just do 'sudo apt-get update', and then 'sudo apt-get install mplayer'
[07:03] <nickrud> CNAP, like I said I'll never use monodevelop so I'll never see that but. You have :)
[07:03] <gn0m3> graft: i tried i get somethign that says E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:03] <graft> gn0m3: um, close synaptic
[07:03] <CNAP> nickrud: alright, do i need to log out and back in to activate it?
[07:03] <gn0m3> oops
[07:03] <gn0m3> :P
[07:03] <LeeJunFan> Can someone jog my memory as to what app might display remote web pics on my desktop [ie. mrtg graphs] , I swear I once had an app that acted more like windows active desktop than telak does.
[07:03] <rob138> arrick, it's my school's wireless network, i don't know.  but the thing is, this used to work. would it have anything to do with switching from ndiswrapper to bcm43xx on this computer?
[07:03] <arrick> very well could
[07:03] <nickrud> CNAP, try source ~/.gnomerc from a terminal, then run monodevelop from that terminal. If it works there, it should be good anytime you log in
[07:04] <wastrel> rob138:  can you ping the desktop system?
[07:04] <nickrud> CNAP, log into gnome
[07:04] <rob138> yes i can
[07:04] <arrick> unless they blocked the port on you
[07:04] <grap3> Can I install kernal headers from some place other than the installation cd? It's refusing to work from the cd for some reason.
[07:04] <CNAP> nickrud: ~/.gnomerc is going to be located in my home dir?
[07:04] <nickrud> CNAP, yes, that's what ~ means (/home/<you>)
[07:04] <graft> grap3: what's it saying?
[07:05] <CNAP> nickrud: just checking.
[07:05] <wastrel> rob138:  but when you ssh to the same system, it hangs?
[07:05] <grap3> Unpacking replacement linux-headers-2.6.12-9 ...
[07:05] <grap3> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[07:05] <grap3> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault.
[07:05] <nickrud> CNAP, just expanding, like the ~ :)
[07:05] <graft> grap3: can you install it with dpkg by hand?
[07:06] <rob138> wastrel, yse
[07:06] <rob138> yes
[07:06] <grap3> I wouldn't know... I'm a linux newb.
[07:06] <CNAP> nickrud: why is it when i type 'ls' in the home dir it doesn't show
[07:06] <arrick_inbed> rob138, are you te netadmin at the school?
[07:06] <wastrel> rob138:  but you can ssh when your laptop is connected to the ethernet, rather than wireless?
[07:06] <graft> grap3: erm... try dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-<etc.>.deb
[07:06] <nickrud> CNAP, you'd use ls -a (all, including the hidden files that start with a .)
[07:07] <gn0m3> graft: can u connect i wanna send u something
[07:07] <arrick_inbed> wastrel, the answer to your last is yes
[07:07] <rob138> arrick_inbed, no i am not
[07:07] <gn0m3> graft: it isnt working
[07:07] <CNAP> nickrud: ok i ran monodevelop, nothing....
[07:07] <rob138> wastrel, yes i can
[07:07] <graft> gn0m3: err, what's it saying?
[07:07] <gn0m3> You should explicitly select one to install.
[07:07] <gn0m3> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:07] <gn0m3> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.10%20%5fBreezy%20Badger%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20051012)_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:07] <gn0m3> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[07:07] <gn0m3> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[07:07] <gn0m3> emin@ubuntu:~$
[07:07] <gn0m3> emin@ubuntu:~$ apt-get update
[07:07] <gn0m3> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[07:08] <graft> gn0m3: err, don't do that
[07:08] <gn0m3> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[07:08] <gn0m3> sorry about that
[07:08] <arrick_inbed> rob138, your netadmin might have done some updating and closed the port
[07:08] <graft> gn0m3: use the pastebin
[07:08] <wastrel> rob138:  ok is there some access list on the desktop that is restricting incoming ssh connections?  /etc/hosts.allow maybe?
[07:08] <arrick_inbed> gn0m3, sudo that
[07:08] <grap3> cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[07:08] <grap3> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:08] <grap3>  /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386.deb
[07:08] <grap3> =(
[07:08] <FearMoth> where do I set the device for sane to use? xsane wants to use my tv capture card for some reason, and I don't know how to set it to my parallel port scanner
[07:08] <rob138> arrick_inbed, well if my friend is also connected wirelessly in the same building as me, i can connect to him, but not when he is plugged in at our dorm and i am wireless ly away
[07:09] <graft> gn0m3: um, it gives you a list of packages to choose from to install?
[07:09] <nickrud> CNAP, if MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla monodevelop works, putting export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/lib/mozilla in ~/.gnomerc and relogging in and running monodevelop in a terminal will work. Check for typos.
[07:09] <rob138> wastrel, would the installation of KDE alter that, because i think this may have been concurrent with switching to kde
[07:09] <gn0m3> graft: ermmm im not sure
[07:10] <wastrel> rob138:  no, kde install wouldn't do that
[07:10] <graft> grap3: do ls /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers* to see the full filename
[07:10] <CNAP> nickrud: ok let me check, and tweak...
[07:10] <graft> gn0m3: when you do sudo apt-get install mplayer, can you pastebin that output? all of it?
[07:10] <gn0m3> yes
[07:10] <wastrel> rob138:  i think this must be a restriction getting from the wireless to the wired network.  you are in a dorm or something?  that's got wifi and ethernet throughout the building?
[07:11] <gn0m3> graft: its http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12825
[07:11] <vinboy> hi, i have just bought a new HDD, i would like to make it my as my HOME
[07:11] <Kambingz> hi
[07:11] <vinboy> should I use the Ubuntu installer's partitioning GUI to do it or I can do it by editing the /etc/fstab?
[07:12] <Kambingz> i got the cd's last month
[07:12] <rob138> wastrel, the dorm has ethernet only, and the two linux computers can connect fine in it through wired,  then other buildings have wireless, which cannot connect to either of the wired computers in the dorm, but can connect to each other wirlessly, if that makes sense
[07:12] <Kambingz> but i cannot installes
[07:12] <graft> gn0m3: yeah... so do 'sudo apt-get install mplayer-586'
[07:12] <gn0m3> k
[07:12] <Kambingz> error package or something
[07:12] <egerds> where do I find a torrent for Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:12] <grap3> ls: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-headers*: No such file or directory
[07:12] <Cheerios> hello all
[07:12] <graft> grap3: oops. um. i guess it doesn't cache stuff off the CD, makes sense
[07:12] <Cheerios> does exim come with mysql support built-in??
[07:12] <wastrel> rob138:  while wireless, can you connect to internet hosts via ssh?
[07:12] <egerds> or a xdcc here? or ftp? for Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[07:13] <BTDog> vinboy, mount the new drive somewhere first, copy /home to it, then mount it to /home
[07:13] <graft> grap3: well you have to find the .deb file on the CD-ROM
[07:13] <grap3> =\
[07:13] <rob138> wastrel, have not tried that, is there an example i could try?
[07:13] <vinboy> BTDog: ok so you mean editing the /etc/fstab?
[07:13] <wastrel> try polarhome.com
[07:14] <BTDog> when you finally want to mount it to home edit the /etc/fstab
[07:14] <vinboy> BTDog: ic.. thanks buddy :P
[07:14] <BTDog> temporarily mount it to like /mnt/newdrive
[07:14] <vinboy> ok
[07:14] <vinboy> yes i get wat you mean now
[07:14] <vinboy> copy the data then mount it
[07:14] <vinboy> thx
[07:14] <BTDog> np
[07:14] <skpl_> can someone help me? i am having trouble playing a video with vlc player
[07:14] <harisund> aad/clear
[07:15] <rob138> wastrel, yes i connected to it
[07:15] <graft> skpl_: wha sorta video?
[07:15] <imbrandon> !restrictedformats
[07:15] <ubotu> well, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:15] <skpl_> graft, would you like the url?
[07:16] <nickrud> CNAP, success?
[07:16] <graft> skpl_: um. yes?
[07:16] <skpl_> graft, http://www.firefoxflicks.com/flick/index.php?id=21159&c=false
[07:16] <CNAP> nickrud: FCUK YEAH! YOU'RE A MAD GENIUS!
[07:16] <skpl_> graft, evidently it is a quicktime file, which vlc should play
[07:16] <nickrud> CNAP, people who know me would drop the noun
[07:17] <CNAP> nickrud: so how do you know all this stuff?
[07:17] <nickrud> CNAP, same you will, time
[07:17] <imbrandon> i just played it with mozilla-mplayer just fine skpl_
[07:17] <graft> skpl_: read that restrictedformats thing
[07:17] <nickrud> CNAP, if you get serious, you'll outstrip me in no time :)
[07:17] <graft> skpl_: i can play it fine here with mplayer plug-in...
[07:17] <wastrel> rob138:  wellsir i don't know what to say exactly.  i'd recommend bugging the campus IT support office.  without knowing how the networks are set up it's hard to say where the problem is.  it's probably not a routing issue, cause you can ping. so i guess it's a firewall blocking access. ...
[07:18] <skpl_> graft, where can i get the mplayer plugin?
[07:18] <Sivik> how do i use apt-get to upgrade the kernel to at least 2.6.16
[07:18] <skpl_> !restrictedformats
[07:18] <ubotu> somebody said restrictedformats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:18] <graft> skpl_: mozilla-mplayer packarge
[07:18] <nickrud> Sivik, you won't
[07:18] <CNAP> nickrud: lol, now that i got it working i've got to figure out how to use it
[07:18] <Sivik> ok
[07:18] <Sivik> then how do i do it?
[07:18] <Sivik> using the src?
[07:18] <wastrel> rob138:  you might want to map ssh to a different port and try again...
[07:18] <nickrud> Sivik, you'd need to use the source :)
[07:18] <graft> they don't have beyond 2.6.15 in dapper yet
[07:18] <Sivik> ok
[07:19] <rob138> wastrel, how would i map it?
[07:19] <graft> gotta get it from kernel.org and much about
[07:19] <Flannel> I don't believe they will ever.
[07:19] <nickrud> Sivik, and you'd need to check out the patches that ubuntu adds to the kernel, to see if you want to port them to the vanilla sources
[07:19] <graft> yeah, at this point probably not
[07:19] <CNAP> nickrud: so what's a .gnomerc file anyway?
[07:19] <Flannel> since, .16 is features, not security fixes, right?
[07:19] <Sivik> ok
[07:19] <rob138> watrel, can you ssh <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:19] <Sivik> what is the vanilla sources?
[07:19] <nickrud> CNAP, it's simply a file that gnome reads upon startup, it's like a .bashrc
[07:19] <crimsun> graft: we won't have beyond 2.6.15 in dapper.
[07:19] <graft> dunno, haven't read the changelog, Flannel
[07:20] <wastrel> rob138:  probably edit the port line in /etc/ssh/ssd_config and restart ssh (on the desktop)
[07:20] <nickrud> Sivik, kernel.org
[07:20] <BTDog> why is libmysqlclient10 a suggested package when you install bitchx?
[07:20] <CNAP> nickrud: so basically a really simple script
[07:20] <zyth> man, loading openoffice2 on a livecd is ... killer
[07:20] <wastrel> rob138:  i can't connect to that ip via ssh
[07:21] <wastrel> rob138:  no ping either.
[07:21] <rob138> no ping?
[07:21] <skpl_> graft, i installed that package but i do not see it anywhere after i did about:plugins in my browser
[07:21] <nickrud> CNAP, roughly yes.
[07:21] <graft> Sivik: what do you need 2.6.16 for anyway?
[07:21] <rob138> wastrel, why would i be able to ping it but not you?
[07:21] <zcat[1] > rc files are runtime configuration.. sometimes a script to run, sometimes a list of options..
[07:21] <graft> skpl_: do you have quicktime support in about:plugins?
[07:21] <Sivik> so i can run my wireless card without ndiswrapper
[07:21] <wastrel> rob138:  nope, prolly blocked for internet
[07:22] <skpl_> graft, no i do not
[07:22] <crimsun> Sivik: bcm43xx?
[07:22] <Sivik> yeap
[07:22] <crimsun> Sivik: we have the native driver.
[07:22] <graft> skpl_: um what's in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins?
[07:22] <Sivik> oh really?
[07:22] <crimsun> yes.
[07:22] <Sivik> but does it work with a kernel older than 2.6.16?
[07:22] <nickrud> the joys of the debian backport system, Sivik :)
[07:22] <TraceGreen> hello, in my /dev/, i don't find any audio, dsp files, i can not play sound, how shoud i do?
[07:22] <graft> skpl_: is there something like mplayerplug-in-blahblah.so?
[07:23] <Sivik> PM crimsun
[07:23] <crimsun> Sivik: yes, we rebase them for our kernel.
[07:23] <rob138> wastrel, that would be the network blocking it, or my desktop blocking it?
[07:23] <Sivik> ok, how do i use it?
[07:23] <crimsun> Sivik: please don't query me atm, I'm in a meeting.
[07:23] <Sivik> ok
[07:23] <wastrel> rob138:  the network.
[07:23] <skpl_> graft, yes, wmp
[07:23] <skpl_> and some others
[07:23] <graft> skpl_: qt?
[07:23] <rob138> can you ssh <IP_ADDRESS>?
[07:23] <skpl_> yes
[07:24] <graft> skpl_: then you hsould be good... restart firefox
[07:24] <Sivik> so what do i need to get it to work crimsun
[07:24] <nickrud> Sivik, that's really a dapper question, try him on #ubuntu+1
[07:24] <pvd2006> graft, skpl_ I show quicktime support in my about:config and it still doesnt open mplayer for the file types.:-\ I built mine from source and copied the plugins straight to the directories
[07:24] <pvd2006> mplayer 3.2.1 I think.
[07:24] <pvd2006> mplayer plugin 3.2.1 I Mean
[07:25] <zyth> how much faster is a naitive install than a livecd?
[07:25] <skpl_> graft, there is nothing in about:plugins
[07:25] <graft> skpl_: um. you're running firefox from that same directory?
[07:25] <skpl_> graft, and it will not play any movies
[07:25] <vladuz976> when i connect my laptop running dapper to ethernet cable after boot up i don`t get a connection, why is that? can i somehow restart the dhcp daemon to do that?
[07:25] <skpl_> graft, no actually, im running it from /opt/firefox
[07:25] <skpl_> graft, should i install it to /usr/lib?
[07:26] <graft> skpl_: uh. well where are those plugins?
[07:26] <bananasontoast> I'm trying to install ieee80211 drivers, but I keep getting this message: http://bananasontoast.pastebin.com/678291 Does anyone know why?
[07:26] <rob138> wastrel, did you try that ip?
[07:26] <skpl_> graft, i imagine they are in/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins where they are absolutely useless
[07:26] <pvd2006> skpl_, locate firefox/plugins
[07:26] <graft> skpl_: well, either symlink them to /opt/firefox/plugins or copy 'em or something
[07:26] <graft> skpl_: and i'm guessing you didn't install firefox from the repository
[07:27] <skpl_> graft, to symlink i just go to the directory i want the links to appear in and type ln -s /location of plugins, right?
[07:27] <skpl_> graft, no, i wanted the latest version of firefox, <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:27] <wastrel> rob138:  i connected to <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:28] <pvd2006> skpl_, why did you say the plugins in usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins are useless?
[07:28] <skpl_> pvd2006, because i am running my firefox fronm /opt/firefox
[07:28] <pvd2006> AH ok
[07:28] <skpl_> pvd2006, should i reinstall to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox?
[07:28] <graft> skpl_: i'd just copy 'em
[07:28] <rob138> wastrel, well they are both on the same school network, just different buildings...
[07:28] <skpl_> graft, ok
[07:29] <graft> skpl_: but if you ever upgrade you're going to lose all that stuff
[07:29] <wastrel> rob138:  one ethernet, one wireless/
[07:29] <wastrel> ?
[07:29] <pvd2006> graft, have you gotten mplayer-plugin to work with firefox?
[07:29] <graft> pvd2006: yeah...
[07:29] <pvd2006> graft, did you use the source?
[07:29] <graft> nope
[07:30] <pvd2006> graft, just like apt-get install mplayer-plugin or something?
[07:30] <graft> pvd2006: yeh... mozilla-mplayer
[07:31] <vladuz976> anybody here know how i can restart the dhcp thing, so can get a connection i
[07:31] <rob138> wastrel, yes
[07:31] <pvd2006> I guess I will try that real quick, Does yours plays quicktime files without errors?
[07:31] <rob138> wastrel, the one you connected to was the wirless one
[07:31] <davecb> is there a way to show the desktop icons on XUBUNTU (xfce4)
[07:31] <davecb> ?
[07:31] <wass_> hi ...  I would like to know how to configure my wireless connection.  I loaded the driver...  in the connection properties the router is found but I need to put the wep key.  Once put it doesn't connect.. what's wrong ?
[07:31] <skpl_> graft, what do you mean?
[07:31] <graft> ?
[07:31] <skpl_> graft, by the way i got it to work, but mplayer seems to hang after buffering to 99%
[07:32] <graft> skpl_: hit play... :P
[07:32] <skpl_> i did
[07:32] <sethk> wass_, there are several possibilities
[07:32] <graft> hrm. do you have mplayer installed? :P
[07:32] <skpl_> yes
[07:32] <sethk> wass_, I would start by, for testing purposes only, turning off WEP.  Then see if it connects
[07:32] <wastrel> rob138:  it's probably a firewall restricting access to the wired network.  talk to campus IT or try to move ssh on wired systems to an open port.
[07:32] <davecb> is there a way to show the desktop icons on XUBUNTU (xfce4) ?
[07:33] <wass_> sethk: fine.. brb :P
[07:33] <sethk> wass_, if it does connect, you'll know you have a wep issue.  If it still doesn't connect, you have a more general issue
[07:33] <wass_> let's try
[07:34] <rob138> wastrel, so editing "/etc/ssh/ssd_config" on the wired computers to change the port would maybe solve this?
[07:34] <graft> skpl_: well you can copy the URL and play it with command-line mplayer
[07:34] <davecb> is there a way to show the desktop icons on xfce 4.2?
[07:35] <imbrandon> davecb: thats not part of the window manager, use something like idesk for icons on xfce
[07:35] <skpl_> graft, i do not want to. it is supposed to be embedded.
[07:35] <davecb> imbrandon,  tks
[07:35] <wastrel> rob138:  if you can find an open port into the wired network.
[07:36] <bimberi> vladuz976: 'sudo dhclient'
[07:36] <graft> skpl_: true. could try restarting firefox, might work... dunno
[07:37] <AngryElf> hey all, what's a command that would write the contents of a directory tree to a file?
[07:37] <graft> find . > filename
[07:37] <pvd2006> graft, I always seem to have a problem witht eh > operator
[07:38] <pvd2006> it always gives me permission denied for some reason even if I use sudo
[07:38] <bananasontoast> I'm trying to install ieee80211 drivers, but I keep getting this message: http://bananasontoast.pastebin.com/678291 Does anyone know why?
[07:38] <sethk> AngryElf, what graft said, if you want to show everything, files, links, directories, etc
[07:38] <sethk> bananasontoast, the files are for a different kernel version than the one you are running
[07:39] <Daskies> I feel like a moron, but what's the copy command again?
[07:39] <rob138> wastrel, how can i look for an open port?
[07:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Daskies: cp
[07:39] <wastrel> pvd2006:  that's because the sudo applies to the command, not the file write operation
[07:39] <sethk> Daskies, for future reference, try  "apropos copy"
[07:39] <pvd2006> wastrel, is there a way to get around  the permission denied.
[07:39] <wastrel> pvd2006:  you'd have to manually set the permissions on the destination file, or make sure you're in a directory that allows you to write
[07:39] <pvd2006> oh ok
[07:40] <wastrel> rob138:  trial and error, or ask the firewall admin..  or portscan but that could get you in trouble.
[07:41] <wastrel> rob138:  popular open ports might include 21, 22(ssh, so already tested),23, 25, 80, 110
[07:41] <Daskies> PuMpErNiCkLe, cp [file]  [destination]  ?
[07:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Daskies: exactly
[07:41] <Daskies> PuMpErNiCkLe: Why do I get: cp: omitting directory `/home/jordan/Desktop/clea
[07:42] <sethk> Daskies, because you didn't use -r
[07:42] <sethk> Daskies, it doesn't copy directories by default, only files
[07:42] <Daskies> sethk, so cp -r [file]  [destination]
[07:42] <sethk> Daskies, so it is telling you that your copy list included this name, but the name was not used
[07:42] <blindx> In order to get sound in videos with VLC, I have to disable the audio track, then reenable it. This gets rather bothersome sometimes. Anyone know why this might be?
[07:42] <sethk> Daskies, yes, if that is what you want
[07:42] <grap3> I'm trying to make a driver and it needs the "KERNEL_SRC = "
[07:42] <sethk> Daskies, use  cp -av
[07:42] <grap3> where should I point it?
[07:42] <rob138> wastrel, could there be any reason why this doesn't work now, as it worked a week ago (same problem with VNC)
[07:43] <sethk> Daskies, the -v just makes it noisier; the -a tells it to copy everything about the files, permissions, mod times, etc.
[07:43] <Daskies> sethk, what's -av ?
[07:43] <Daskies> Ah
[07:43] <sethk> Daskies, again, if that's the behavior you want, but most often it's the best choice
[07:44] <grap3> I'm trying to make a driver and it needs the "KERNEL_SRC = "
[07:44] <grap3> where should I point it?
[07:44] <wastrel> rob138:  if you don't control the network there's no way of knowing.  changing your wifi drivers shouldn't have affected it unless you're supposed to be using a specific static ip with special access rules  and aren't anymore due to your local reconfig
[07:45] <doms> wer i can get more database connection of gambas programming
[07:45] <pschulz01> Where is the best place to put a new directory inti my PATH? Does ubotu know?
[07:45] <wastrel> pschulz01:  you want to add system-wide or just for your user?
[07:45] <gn0m3> lmfaoooooo
[07:45] <gn0m3> this is hilarious
[07:45] <pschulz01> I have programs in '~/bin' but this only get's added when I remotle login.
[07:46] <gn0m3> dwnload carlos mencia standup
[07:46] <rob138> wastrel, but i guess it is the network firewall if you cannot even ping the wired computer
[07:46] <pschulz01> wastrel: Just for me (user by user basis).
[07:47] <pschulz01> wasrel: I have to do '. ~/.bash_profile' each time I open a local xterm for it to pick up the path.
[07:47] <wastrel> pschulz01:  sounds like you're setting your path in one of those little .bash_login .bashrc .bash_profile things
[07:47] <sethk> pschulz01, put it in .bashrc
[07:47] <wastrel> yeah, either tell xterm to open a login shell or set path in .bashrc instead of profile
[07:47] <sethk> pschulz01, .bash_profile is only read for a login shell.  .bashrc is read for all shells
[07:47] <pschulz01> '~/bin' gets added by default if it exists, but only if you remotely login.
[07:47] <wastrel> so confusing.
[07:48] <sethk> pschulz01, right.  put it in .bashrc, because .bash_profile is only read for login shells.
[07:48] <wastrel> pschulz01:  that's because xterm is opening a non login shell
[07:48] <pschulz01> sethk: But if I put it in '.bashrc' (so the path is appeneded) won't it just keep appending (multiple times) when I run another shell?
[07:49] <pschulz01> wasrel: I haven't modified anything yet.. other than create '~/bin' and put some programs in it.
[07:49] <sethk> pschulz01, use zsh instead of bash.  It has a feature where that behavior does not occur
[07:49] <grap3> I'm trying to make a driver and it needs the "KERNEL_SRC = "
[07:49] <grap3> where should I point it?
[07:49] <sethk> pschulz01, but, if you want to stay with bash, put the entire path in, not just the part you are adding
[07:50] <DvUs> hello
[07:50] <sethk> pschulz01, you can set the path 1000 times, without a problem, as long as the path doesn't include $PATH
[07:50] <pschulz01> sethk: I'm keen to use whatever ubuntu defaults to..
[07:50] <wastrel> pschulz01:  +ls  arg for xterm will open it as a login shell
[07:50] <imbrandon> grap3: /usr/src/linux ( if you have it installed )
[07:50] <DvUs> any one know about apt-get
[07:50] <DvUs> and xwindows?
[07:50] <imbrandon> DvUs: what about it?
[07:50] <DvUs> My upgrade is really stuffed ;-)
[07:50] <sethk> pschulz01, well, unix is built around flexibility.  There are I think at least six shells that ubuntu is configured to allow as a login shell
[07:51] <wastrel> pschulz01:  er  -ls  heh  misread man page
[07:51] <sethk> pschulz01, do   cat /etc/shells, and you'll see the list
[07:51] <DvUs> I'm fairly new to Linux and I've beeb batteling with the upgrade a bit
[07:51] <grap3> grap3@ubuntu:~/Desktop/ITE8212/Linux/Driver/2.6.x$ sudo make
[07:51] <grap3> make -C /usr/src/linux SUBDIRS=/home/grap3/Desktop/ITE8212/Linux/Driver/2.6.x modules
[07:51] <grap3> make: *** /usr/src/linux: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[07:51] <grap3> make: *** [modules]  Error 2
[07:51] <DvUs> all was going well in xwindows when I hit update
[07:51] <sethk> pschulz01, zsh is in the repositories, has a bash compatibility mode, and is far, far, far better
[07:51] <Flannel> DvUs: upgrade to dapper?
[07:51] <DvUs> until I got some weird colours and stuff
[07:51] <sethk> grap3, it's looking for kernel source, installed in the default location.
[07:51] <DvUs> yeah
[07:51] <Flannel> DvUs: ask in #ubuntu+1
[07:51] <Flannel> (thats the dapper channel)
[07:52] <imbrandon> grap3: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers`uname -r`"
[07:52] <DvUs> ok thanks
[07:52] <sethk> grap3, you may not have the source.  If you do, ubuntu doesn't install it in the correct location
[07:52] <sethk> grap3, so what you have to do is make a link of /usr/src/whatever to the directory name ubuntu uses
[07:52] <grap3> imbrandon, I've done that already
[07:52] <pschulz01> sethk: Cheers...
[07:52] <GreySim> Is it possible to use the Live CD of the beta to just install without loading up the graphical bits?
[07:53] <Madpilot> GreySim, I don't think so. The install CD has a "server" option, though
[07:53] <imbrandon> then its /usr/src/linux`uname -r`
[07:53] <grap3> grap3@ubuntu:~/Desktop/ITE8212/Linux/Driver/2.6.x$ sudo make
[07:53] <grap3> make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10 SUBDIRS=/home/grap3/Desktop/ITE8212/Linux/Driver/2.6.x modules
[07:53] <grap3> /bin/sh: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10/scripts/gcc-version.sh: No such file or directory
[07:53] <grap3> make[1] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[07:53] <grap3> make[1] : Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10'
[07:53] <grap3>   WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10/Module.symvers
[07:53] <grap3>            is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions.
[07:53] <Flannel> !paste
[07:53] <grap3> make[2] : scripts/Makefile.build: No such file or directory
[07:53] <ubotu> Please don't flood the channel! For best results use the pastebin at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and tell people the URL
[07:53] <grap3> make[2] : *** No rule to make target `scripts/Makefile.build'.  Stop.
[07:53] <Madpilot> grap3, pastebin next time!
[07:53] <grap3> make[1] : *** [_module_/home/grap3/Desktop/ITE8212/Linux/Driver/2.6.x]  Error 2
[07:53] <grap3> make[1] : Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10'
[07:53] <grap3> make: *** [modules]  Error 2
[07:53] <imbrandon> PASTEBIN
[07:53] <imbrandon> PASTEBIN
[07:53] <grap3> Sorry
[07:53] <imbrandon> PASTEBIN
[07:53] <grap3> <- idiot
[07:53] <grap3> I don't know what a fucking pastebin is
[07:53] <imbrandon> !pastebin
[07:53] <GreySim> Thanks.
[07:53] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[07:55] <sethk> grap3, I told you what's wrong and how to fix it
[07:55] <grap3> I did it and it didn't work.
[07:55] <sethk> grap3, tell me what you did, exactly
[07:56] <Hobbsee> grap3: it's usually a good idea to read the /topic before you come in
[07:56] <sifl_> i know this isn't related to this forum, but does anyone know how to change the track, artist, etc. properties of audio files?
[07:56] <crimsun> sifl_: easytag, ex falso are two example progs
[07:57] <Madpilot> sifl_, easytag is nice
[07:57] <GreySim> sifl_: cowbell is another option.
[07:57] <sifl_> thx
[07:57] <grap3> I changed KERNEL_SRC = /usr/src/linux to KERNEL_SRC = /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.12-10 and it still didn't work when I tired to make it
[07:57] <sethk> grap3, that's not what I told you to do
[07:57] <sethk> grap3, not even close
[07:57] <sethk> grap3, you have to make a link, in /usr/src, not change an environment variable
[07:57] <grap3> You said apt-get install linux-headers(uname -r)
[07:57] <sethk> grap3, no, that was someone else
[07:58] <doms> ahahah
[07:58] <doms> i'am screeweddddddddddddd
[07:58] <pvd2006> I should use checkinstall instead of make install right?
[07:58] <grap3> The only links I know how to make are <a href=
[07:58] <grap3> =P
[07:58] <imbrandon> man ln
[08:00] <sethk> grap3, look as ln -s
[08:00] <Beawolfe> Looking for some help trying to install programs......Very New(2 days) and tried what wiki said to do it it tells me no default action associated with that location
[08:00] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, which wiki page, and what are you trying to install?
[08:00] <grap3> what?
[08:00] <sethk> grap3, by the way, I'm not sure you can get away with installing only headers.  You may have to install the kernel source
[08:01] <sethk> grap3, what what?  do  man ln   to learn how to make a link
[08:01] <BTDog> grap3: ln -s <original> <alias>
[08:01] <sethk> grap3, it's simple.  the man page explains it better than we can.
[08:01] <Beawolfe> Madpilot...several proggies and I have installed Breezy if that helps any
[08:01] <grap3> How retarded of a distro is this that you can't simply hit make and have it work
[08:02] <sethk> grap3, well, most of the distros are retarded in that sense
[08:02] <theshibboleth> When I print pages from firefox, and the url and date, etc. are supposed to be in the margins, they don't get printed. Also, the text is abnormally large. How can I get the documents to print how I want them to?
[08:02] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, you used Synaptic?
[08:02] <sethk> grap3, the first thing I do, on any of the distros I use, is download the kernel from kernel.org and install it.
[08:02] <sethk> grap3, then all these problems disappear
[08:02] <sethk> grap3, slackware doesn't have the problem, but fedora does, mandrake does, suse, does, and of course debian and ubuntu
[08:03] <doms> wer i can find more sample source code on gambas
[08:03] <Beawolfe> Madpilot.....want to try and install par2....captive -static.........rar and unrar...and yes I used Synaptic...found the program and highlighted it but it wont do anything after that
[08:04] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, click on the box beside the package name, select "Mark For Installation" - when you're done marking stuff, hit the Apply button on the top toolbar in Synaptic
[08:05] <Beawolfe> it isnt in any list so I can mark it
[08:05] <KrisWood> Hi all, I was just wondering, does anyone know what the package name for Wine is?
[08:05] <crimsun> 'wine'
[08:05] <KrisWood> thanks
[08:06] <KrisWood> I coulda guest that hehe
[08:06] <kosnick> !tell kosnick grub
[08:06] <KrisWood> has anyone tried wine on breezy?
[08:06] <BTDog> apt-cache is a very useful too for this
[08:06] <BTDog> tool that is
[08:06] <KrisWood> apt-cache?
[08:06] <BTDog> run it
[08:06] <BTDog> apt-cache search <blah>
[08:06] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, sorry, I'm still not sure exactly what you're trying to install
[08:06] <BTDog> find packages
[08:07] <KrisWood> oooh cool
[08:07] <KrisWood> very useful
[08:07] <KrisWood> thanks! :D
[08:07] <kosnick> i have ubuntu and debian on the same machine. if i format the debian partition wiil grub work with ubuntu?
[08:07] <BTDog> yep :)
[08:07] <Beawolfe> trying to install several programs I have d/led to the desktop that ar needed to work with files from the newsgroups
[08:08] <luigi> hi
[08:08] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, look in Synaptic first - which apps do you need?
[08:09] <eggzeck> Why doesn't anyone ever show people Applications->Add Applications?
[08:09] <Madpilot> eggzeck, because you can get *everything* thru Synaptic
[08:09] <crimsun> um, we do.
[08:09] <eggzeck> yes Madpilot, but you can also show them that :P
[08:09] <BTDog> lol
[08:09] <KrisWood> later all thanks for the help!
[08:10] <crimsun> don't assume that just because you've not seen anyone suggest gnome-app-install that no one suggests it.
[08:11] <eggzeck> I've always seen people say 'use synaptic' (not that it's a problem).. was just curious
[08:11] <eggzeck> I use apt anyways
[08:12] <Beawolfe> par2.........rar and unrar......gdebi.......captive-static.....dvdrtools...and I dont find them on the list in Snaptic....I find them doing a search but then it doesnt have anywhere to mark for install...it just shows the proggie is all
[08:13] <BTDog> Beawolfe, try the apt tools, you should be able to install it. for example, run apt-get install par2
[08:13] <eggzeck> Beawolfe, sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[08:13] <BTDog> well, first to apt-cache search par2 and find the package name... etc. that's a typical flow to find what you want
[08:14] <eggzeck> Beawolfe, use 'apt-cache search <namehere>' for all the rest :)
[08:14] <BTDog> typical for me anyway
[08:14] <eggzeck> Beawolfe, you type that in terminal btw
[08:14] <bimberi> eggzeck: is that in Add Applications? ;)
[08:14] <llama32> what debian release does 5.10 correspond to?
[08:14] <eggzeck> bimberi, sarcasm is childish
[08:15] <eggzeck> llama32, breezy
[08:15] <bimberi> llama32: I'd guess sid at about August 2005
[08:15] <eggzeck> oh wait, Debian release
[08:16] <ConfidentiaL> where is a good place to get the packages xhydra, dsniff, etherape etc... ?
[08:16] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, do you have the Universe & Multiverse extra repos enabled?
[08:16] <bimberi> eggzeck: wasn't meant to offend - i did add a ;)
[08:16] <Madpilot> !info etherape
[08:16] <ubotu> etherape: (graphical network monitor modeled after etherman), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.3-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 113 kB, Installed size: 596 kB
[08:16] <eggzeck> Beawolfe, you might have to enable those that Madpilot suggested
[08:16] <Madpilot> ConfidentiaL, Universe repo, it looks like
[08:16] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell ConfidentiaL about universe
[08:16] <tomaj> I'm having a bit of trouble with my sound and I want to remove the module i compiled using the wiki guide for setting up Audigy cards. Is someone able to tell me how to do this please?
[08:16] <GreySim> !info gemrb
[08:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Beawolfe about universe
[08:17] <ConfidentiaL> Madpilot: thx :)
[08:17] <Beawolfe> where can I enable them at?
[08:17] <eggzeck> Beawolfe, in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:17] <BTDog> ubotu, tell BTDog about universe
[08:18] <bimberi> !tell Beawolfe about universe
[08:18] <bimberi> gah - must clean my glasses
[08:18] <BTDog> get contacts
[08:19] <tomaj> I'm having a bit of trouble with my sound and I want to remove the module i compiled using the wiki guide for setting up Audigy cards. Is someone able to tell me how to do this please?
[08:19] <bimberi> BTDog: :)
[08:21] <BTDog> is par used anywhere else other than download stuff off usenet?
[08:21] <pvd2006> I am installing mplayer by CVS cource using this guide http://johnvansickle.com/mplayer and I need to make sure I have all the plugins i need to support all video types including .movs. I have a list of the output of ./configure here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12827
[08:21] <milesirc> of my ubuntu desktop or a link to this information?
[08:22] <starkes> does anyone know how to unblock the ports needed for bittorrent in ubuntu?
[08:23] <BTDog> are they blocked by default?
[08:23] <BTDog> do you have a router?
[08:24] <Humility> I think you might want to hack your modem/routher for that Starkes. I never had port problem with ubuntu. the modems block the ports ... I think
[08:24] <starkes> i do have a router and they are not blocked
[08:24] <starkes> they work under my windows install on the same comp
[08:25] <mDot> just sitting here doing nothing.. slowly watching Firefox eat memory
[08:25] <Madpilot> starkes, firestarter has a setting to explicitly unblock the BT ports
[08:25] <mDot> this is crazy
[08:25] <Madpilot> mDot, Opera doesn't eat memory ;)
[08:25] <Humility> yep
[08:25] <sethk> mDot, that's a known problem
[08:25] <sethk> mDot, however I strong advise against using opera if you actually want to visit websites
[08:25] <starkes> i've messed with firestarter but nothing has seemed to change
[08:26] <mDot> sethk i agree, Firefox is infinately safer and extentons make it great, its just a memory hog
[08:26] <mDot> maybe flock deals better
[08:26] <sethk> mDot, indeed, it is that
[08:27] <rfm> starkes: got a fresh new ubuntu install here and no clue that any bt ports are blocked
[08:27] <BTDog> which BT client do you use under windows?
[08:27] <Madpilot> sethk, only broken websites don't work in Opera - and they frequently screw up in FF, too, in my experience..
[08:27] <starkes> azureus with identical settings
[08:28] <Madpilot> thankfully, really borked websites like that seem to be becoming rarer...
[08:28] <sethk> Madpilot, all the sites I visit display perfectly in FF.  One out of 10 display correctly in opera
[08:28] <BTDog> also using azureus in ubuntu?
[08:28] <rfm> starkes: so, if you have a windows box working behind the same router, don't you have the bt ports redirected there?
[08:28] <starkes> which is why this problem seems so strange. i know that it works under windows with seemingly identical settings, which is why i figure firestarter isnt doing what it should
[08:28] <starkes> no, i manually connect to my DSL line so i dont need to forward ports
[08:28] <starkes> so its not the router
[08:29] <starkes> since my router has always been a bitch about connecting for me and sharing the internet, i have to get a direct connection on whatever computer i use
[08:30] <rfm> starkes: well, you probably need a smarter router or need to learn how to tickle it right, but neither here nor there
[08:31] <quietFrank> hi all Im trying to get a Genius web cam working I have found out that it uses the sn9c103 driver but not really sure where to go from here ... new to linux ... can someone point me in the right direction
[08:31] <DvUs> is there a way to install mono on ubuntu?
[08:31] <steel> i cant figure it out
[08:31] <steel> plasma pong won't work either :(
[08:32] <starkes> it sends a PADT packet which tells the router to disconnect the DSL every time it tries to connect, i read up about it and it seems like its just something that my router does sometimes, regardless of firmware versions, settings, or anything like that
[08:32] <Error405> hello: I'm having issues connecting to my apache server on my ubuntu installation. I've forwarded the port but I'm not sure if there is a certain configuration of ubuntu I need to make to allow remote access?
[08:32] <mlalkaka> hi everyone
[08:33] <steel> hi
[08:33] <pvd2006> On mplayer to enable x264 wouldnt i just type /.configure --enable-x264
[08:33] <steel> try it
[08:34] <pvd2006> steel, I did but its still under optional disabled codecs
[08:34] <pvd2006> :-\
[08:34] <steel> hmm
[08:34] <pvd2006> I looked at the list of ./configure --hel;p
[08:34] <pvd2006> help
[08:35] <darqueMeye> hi linux newbie here... trying to install an .lexe program. anyone know how this is done through the terminal?
[08:35] <tomaj> I'm having a bit of trouble with my sound and I want to remove the module i compiled using the wiki guide for setting up Audigy cards. Is someone able to tell me how to do this please?
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> darqueMeye: What exactly are you doing?
[08:35] <tomaj> darqueMeye, did u mean .exe?
[08:35] <DvUs> using the drive bay?
[08:36] <pvd2006> ohh
[08:36] <pvd2006> its /.configure --enable-codec=x264
[08:36] <pvd2006> :
[08:36] <pvd2006> :)
[08:36] <pdash> it works
[08:36] <darqueMeye> i have a client that lets me connet to various severs. i downloaded the linux version and it gave me a .lexe file to install. not sure if this is even right...
[08:37] <sethk> darqueMeye, that's a new one to me
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> darqueMeye: Seems odd.  What's the program, and where'd you get it?
[08:37] <rfm> tomaj: well, poke around in /lib/modules, find the module you don't like, rm it, reboot.  Whether this will help or not I dunno
[08:37] <doms> hu kalibog ba ani uy pangit manjud grave
[08:37] <tomaj> rfm, thanks ill try doing that :)
[08:37] <doms> wala ko kasabot sa inyo tana uy mga paknuh ug ulo dri
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> !ph
[08:38] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[08:38] <darqueMeye> www.haxialsoftware.com
[08:38] <darqueMeye> kdx client for linux
[08:38] <rfm> tomaj: actually there may be another place sound modules hide
[08:38] <tomaj> rfm, ?
[08:39] <doms> pangit
[08:40] <rfm> tomaj: no, looks ok.  I am actually new to ubuntu but worked with debian a lot
[08:40] <tomaj> rfm, they're pretty much the same :)
[08:40] <rfm> tomaj: debian used to hide some sound modules in an alsa directory
[08:40] <tomaj> ah k
[08:41] <doms> pangit
[08:41] <rfm> tomaj: but looks like that is all gone now
[08:41] <tomaj> rfm, whats the command to see the active modules in terminal?
[08:41] <imbrandon> lsmod
[08:41] <tomaj> ty
[08:41] <darqueMeye> tonyyarusso: here is a direct link. scroll to the bottom.  http://www.haxial.com/products/kdx/
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> darqueMeye: Does look odd...
[08:42] <darqueMeye> yea i might be SOL i think
[08:43] <doms>  nganu mga pangit manmo
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> darqueMeye: Try e-mailing them and asking what the heck it is.
[08:43] <AngryElf> hey all is there a central script-sharing website?
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> !ph
[08:43] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[08:43] <darqueMeye> im new but ive never seen a file like that for linux
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> darqueMeye: Nor have I.
[08:44] <rfm> tomaj: note rmmod and insmod can unload and load modules.  not necessarly will make things work but look at the messages in /var/log and sometimes they help
[08:44] <doms> is their x-chat for windows
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> doms: Yes.
[08:44] <darqueMeye> alright. thanks for looking at it. ill just have to go back to windows (cough) to use it. :(
[08:44] <tomaj> rfm, kk thanks that helps a lot :) ill have a look around and see if i can solve it
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> doms: http://www.silverex.info/news/
[08:48] <blindx> nautilus keeps freezing :|... i force quit, it opens a new window and freezes again
[08:49] <doms> pangit
[08:49] <blindx> ?
[08:49] <blindx> is this linux im running.. or windows heh.
[08:49] <kosnick> hi all
[08:49] <blindx> hi kosnick
[08:49] <doms> pangit
[08:50] <blindx> what's pangit?
[08:51] <kosnick> how to unistall debian?
[08:52] <rfm> kiosnik: cat /dev/zero >/dev/hda
[08:52] <llama32> bindx: neither - it's gnome you're running... what do you expect for such a massive platform written mostly in C? [i know im gonna get flamed and i know i don't know much about gnome so i'll lose]
[08:52] <rfm> kosnik: oh, I'm sorry, too snarky
[08:52] <kosnick> rfm : this will delete the dabian partition
[08:53] <kosnick> ?
[08:53] <llama32> eh, blindx*
[08:53] <rfm> kosnik: like, why do you want to uninstall debian?
[08:53] <rfm> kosnik: either put something else in the partition or just ignore it until you want the space back...
[08:54] <kosnick> rfm: got two GNU/linux partitions , one with debian and one with ubuntu. I don't need debian any more
[08:54] <llama32> blindx: use Rox... way better file manager [and it never misbehaves]
[08:54] <kosnick> rfm : actually the q is , if i format the debian partition will grub (ubuntu grub i mean) find what has happened?
[08:54] <rfm> kosnik: right.  so do you need the space back, or do you just want to boot straight into ubunto
[08:55] <kosnick> rfm : both space and straight up booting
[08:55] <rfm> kosnik: the booting is easier.  find which partition has /boot/grub/menu.lst in it and edit it to your liking
[08:56] <Beawolfe> Madpilot....I was only able to find and install 2 programs after that.....par2 and unrar............still need to get gdebi installed so I can install the rest
[08:56] <kosnick> rfm : as far as i have seen both debian and ubuntu have a /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:56] <rfm> if the /boot/grub/ directory is in the debian paritition then things get complicate
[08:56] <GTroy> hey guys, how do you enable java in firefox <IP_ADDRESS>?
[08:57] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, if you've got .deb files, you can install them thru the terminal
[08:57] <GTroy> I have jre 1.5 installed
[08:57] <rfm> GTroy: the ubuntu wiki has the majik
[08:57] <GTroy> hmmm
[08:57] <kosnick> rfm : where is grub installed? in boot-sector or MBR?
[08:57] <Beawolfe> I am very new so can you tell me how to do that..I would greatly appreciate that!
[08:58] <Madpilot> GTroy, on the wiki page w/ the Java info, look right at the end of the Java section - there's a bit about choosing which version of Java you're using
[08:58] <kosnick> rfm: i installed debian after ubuntu. So what has happened? Is debian's grub over ubuntu's grub in MBR or is it each one on boot-sector of its partition?
[08:58] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, open the terminal, cd to the directory you put the .deb files in, then "sudo dpkg -i nameoffile.deb"
[08:59] <rfm> kosnik: ah, the key is the mbr version "knows" which partition to look at for menu.lst.  I always have to read the grub docs at this point but there should be a way to tell grub to look at the ubuntu partition
[09:00] <Beawolfe> Madpilot...what if I put them on the desktop?
[09:00] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, that's a directory too - Desktop
[09:00] <pvd2006> can someone bring up ubotu to bring up info about Checkinstall
[09:00] <steel> how do i search in nautilus?
[09:00] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, in the terminal: "cd /Desktop"
[09:00] <Madpilot> !checkinstall
[09:00] <ubotu> [checkinstall]  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[09:00] <kosnick> rfm : i have checked a little on grub doc and in the grub shell there is some root command and setup command
[09:01] <pvd2006> ah ok, thanks
[09:01] <bliss1_> hi
[09:01] <tonyyarusso> CHKDSK is done - bad to the Live CD to attempt partitioning!
[09:02] <rfm> kosnick: sounds right.  just try.  Burn a grub boot cd first so you have a way out if you screw things up
[09:02] <pvd2006> if there was only a shortcut to see if make is going to compile or not:-\
[09:02] <kosnick> rfm : what is a grub boot cd?
[09:02] <kosnick> ?
[09:02] <kosnick> to brign things back
[09:02] <rfm> kosnick: grub docs do explain this
[09:02] <doms> pangit
[09:02] <pvd2006> its fun waiting 10 minutes each time to get an other errror:)
[09:03] <kosnick> rfm : ok thx rfm!
[09:03] <doms> pangit ka
[09:03] <rfm> kosnick: the grub docs are kind of terse but keep at it and it does make sense
[09:03] <chiche> hot news!!! http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=11547
[09:04] <bliss1_> just downloaded a exe file called  iasl how you i put this into my path so it becomes ./iasl ?
[09:04] <chiche> is it real?
[09:04] <tonyyarusso> chiche: That's not hot news.  I saw that at least a week ago.
[09:05] <chiche> lol
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> Sad news is more like it.
[09:05] <eggzeck> ciche: they probably do a lot of dirt.... But that is offtopic :P
[09:05] <steel> is there a way to search in the file browser?
[09:05] <pvd2006> ah, Im glad I switched to linux
[09:06] <chiche> linux?
[09:06] <pvd2006> yeah ubuntu
[09:06] <chiche> oww
[09:06] <eggzeck> ubuntu IS linux
[09:06] <eggzeck> heh
[09:06] <doms> pangit
[09:06] <pvd2006> yep
[09:07] <chiche> must be
[09:07] <chiche> (in theory)
[09:08] <Beawolfe> Madpilot...can you explain to me what sudo means or is in typing in the terminal?
[09:08] <steel> oh i can!
[09:08] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, sudo is how you get admin privs. in terminal, basically
[09:08] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Beawolfe about sudo
[09:08] <eggzeck> Beawolfe, 'sudo' means running a command as root
[09:08] <BTDog> sudo is a command... when you run sudo <blah> it means run <blah> as superuser
[09:08] <eggzeck> perhaps you should type: 'man sudo' in terminal Beawolfe
[09:09] <steel> how do i exit a manual in the term
[09:09] <eggzeck> 'q'
[09:10] <steel> ah
[09:10] <steel> thank you
[09:10] <eggzeck> yw
[09:11] <tapu> hi
[09:11] <tapu> i m a new user of ubuntu...
[09:11] <llama32> hehehe... i see why linux is confusing for some newbies... three answers to the same question use three different terms for root
[09:11] <steel> hey ditto
[09:11] <tapu> can any one help me
[09:11] <tapu> ? rgd printer installation
[09:11] <tapu> ?
[09:15] <bliss1_> just downloaded a exe file called  iasl how you i put this into my path so it becomes ./iasl ?
[09:15] <PwcrLinux> !goodmorning
[09:16] <steel> hah
[09:16] <Beawolfe> Madpilot..eggzeck.......something is not right because I do that and nothing happens
[09:16] <Madpilot> bliss1_, exe files are windows files, not Linux ones..
[09:16] <Madpilot> Beawolfe, sorry, do what?
[09:16] <chiche> .com files?
[09:16] <bliss1_> Madpilot: just a sec
[09:17] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell tapu about printers