[12:00] <linrunix> sheng, i suggest grub
[12:00] <sheng> to start with sata drive #2, and then it will give an option to boot into hard drive 1, which has xp?
[12:00] <sheng> i have xp pro on sata disk one
[12:00] <sethk> sheng, the installation program configures it for you during install, if the other O/S is present at installation time
[12:00] <sheng> and ubuntu on sata disk 2
[12:00] <duelboot> I need to...pkg not compiling correctly...want to see the error sethk?
[12:00] <sheng> it wasn't present
[12:00] <sethk> duelboot, ok, but that isn't the right way to fix it
[12:00] <sheng> i did the install on a clean disk
[12:00] <sheng> and unplugged xp
[12:00] <duelboot> what is?  tried export see above
[12:00] <sethk> sheng, ok, you can add it without a problem
[12:00] <sheng> the disk with xp on it
[12:01] <tomski> hi all. I'm setting up ubuntu on my inspiron 9100 for the first time. I'm having a big prob with the setup where it asks to create a non-root user. after putting in both passwords it just restarts the new user prompts and ignores what i put in. any advice???
[12:01] <sethk> duelboot, usually when it is looking for a particular gcc version, you should install that gcc version
[12:01] <duelboot> I have it installed
[12:01] <duelboot> both 3.4 and 4.0
[12:01] <sethk> duelboot, oh, you want it to find 3.4 by default, then
[12:01] <linrunix> wich version brings latex???????????????
[12:01] <duelboot> okay, how?
[12:01] <zokzok> how can i go in a german chat ?
[12:02] <sheng> so i can make an edit on hard disk two, and it wont affect xp hdd at all, correct? i want ot be able to plug in the xp disk by itself if i need, and just have it boot up
[12:02] <duelboot> !ge
[12:02] <ubotu> Bugger all, I dunno. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, duelboot
[12:02] <glyph> solved uninstall gdm and then reinstall it
[12:02] <sethk> duelboot, "type gcc" will tell you the path it uses for gcc
[12:02] <duelboot> hmmm
[12:02] <sethk> duelboot, then you make that path a link to the gcc executable for 3.4
[12:02] <kingspawn> emacs might be the best program ever created
[12:02] <duelboot> /usr/bin/gcc   sethk
[12:02] <zokzok> #join eichel
[12:02] <anto9us> kingspawn, ssh gets my vote
[12:02] <jorge_> alguin que hable espaol?
[12:02] <duelboot> ok like this?  ln -s gcc-3.4 CC
[12:03] <bimberi> !de
[12:03] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu oder Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de oder #edubuntu-de
[12:03] <ryanpg> anyone know of any repos for current CVS of Xgl?
[12:03] <kingspawn> anto9us: yeah, ssh is great. but emacs is... emacs is just insane.
[12:03] <sethk> duelboot, ok, so you would do something like this:   mv /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/original.gcc; ln -s /wherever/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[12:03] <bkn> Hi anyone running ubuntu on a G4 powerbook?
[12:03] <sethk> duelboot, it may not be exactly gcc-3.4, but you know what I mean
[12:03] <tomski> had anyone heard of the installer not being able to create a new user? maybe something about it not being able to write to the hd?
[12:03] <zokzok> #ubuntu-de
[12:03] <duelboot> yes, but my head is hurting sethk :)
[12:03] <anto9us> kingspawn, I've never really played with it, not placed to judge
[12:03] <arrick> I hope this works
[12:04] <sethk> duelboot, do you know the name of the gcc 3.4 executable?  It may just be gcc in a directory with 3.4 in the name
[12:04] <MemeticVirus> wow the ubuntu forums are basicaly not used by anyone...
[12:04] <duelboot> I was able to get the symbolic link before without mv anything...
[12:04] <sethk> duelboot, you don't have to mv
[12:04] <arrick> duelboot, i have a SIIG pci duel ide adapter, that i just threw in my server, and I am hoping it workd ok
[12:04] <sethk> duelboot, I just suggested that to preserve your current configuration
[12:04] <kingspawn> anto9us: hehe, i started using it about 14 days ago, and there are so many features to it its just stupid. you can irc from it, read news, play games, it is the greatest text/code-editor i've ever seen, and its got everything :)
[12:04] <jorge_> alguien que hable espaol que me pueda alludar??
[12:04] <newbuntu> howdy neighbours
[12:04] <sheng> how do you play midi files? i dled one, double clicked it, and it wont launch anything
[12:04] <bimberi> !es
[12:04] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:04] <sethk> duelboot, you can instead make the link for gcc somewhere in your path earlier than /usr/bin
[12:04] <duelboot> sethk, don't care about current...if it screws up , i can reinstall :)
[12:04] <arrick> it makes it where i can have a total of 8 hdd in y server without using the new server, then i can raid it
[12:04] <sethk> duelboot, and then not move anything
[12:05] <obscurite> anyone have a raid1 with a swap on it? my mdadm raid1 is just one big partition right now and i want to split it up, so i can have a swap partitoin in raid1
[12:05] <duelboot> okay sethk, i will try
[12:05] <sethk> duelboot, or you can even do this:  export PATH=.:$PATH
[12:05] <sethk> duelboot, which puts the current directory at the front of the execution search path
[12:05] <MemeticVirus> nope that's not the case... something is wrong with the little icons that indicate usage. bleh
[12:05] <sethk> duelboot, then make a link named gcc in the current directory
[12:05] <Mitja> Is it possible to wire up a Yahoo mail server to a linux machine somehow to receive mails directly on the machine even though free Yahoo service doesn't allow forwarding?
[12:06] <arrick> how do I tell if my hdd's have all ounted, and if the system is seeing them from terminal?
[12:06] <newbuntu> I was installing something using adept, and then it froze the system so I xkilled adept and then suddenly radom programs disappeared , like apollon, kde-multi-media, kcontrol and lots of others, i'm not sure what to do now
[12:06] <duelboot> sethk, okay thx...give me 10 min...my head's hurting...need another beer :)
[12:06] <sethk> arrick, mount (no arguments) will tell you what is mounted
[12:06] <obscurite> arrick -  type mount
[12:06] <sheng> no decoders to play mp3s found? what's up wiht that?
[12:06] <anto9us> kingspawn, yeah, but i bet you have to remember how to do them all, rather than being presented with options. I think I've learned to love the gui, maybe I'm getting old or something
[12:06] <sethk> arrick, you can find out about the hardware using a utility or looking in the /sys directory
[12:06] <anto9us> !tell sheng about restricted formats
[12:06] <duelboot> sheng, need to install decoder
[12:06] <sheng> what decoder
[12:07] <duelboot> believe it's win32codes sheng
[12:07] <duelboot> hold one
[12:07] <sheng> ok
[12:07] <obscurite> anyone have their /tmp in raid1?
[12:07] <sheng> i just need to play mp3s, mids, and avis/mpegs
[12:07] <sheng> the standard stuff
[12:07] <kingspawn> anto9us: hm, there is a lot of stuff to remember, but you can redefine EVERYTHING, if that's your fancy. and text-editing or programming is so insanely fast when you've got 4-5 hotkeys memorized
[12:07] <anto9us> obscurite, mine's in raid0
[12:07] <arrick> thanks
[12:07] <kingspawn> !restrictedformats
[12:07] <ubotu> from memory, restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:07] <obscurite> ant09us - hw or sw raid?
[12:07] <newbuntu> has anypne else had weird dissapearences of software after an apt-get session stalls?
[12:07] <kingspawn> sheng, read what ubotu said now
[12:08] <sheng> i will read it. thanks
[12:08] <duelboot> it's w32codes sheng
[12:08] <Inazad> kingspawn: Hi re
[12:08] <obscurite> anto9us - hw or sw raid?
[12:08] <sheng> well, whatever it is, i need to play these
[12:08] <Inazad> kingspawn: are u there?
[12:08] <arrick> hey sethk can you join #arrick for a sec?
[12:08] <kingspawn> Inazad: ya
[12:08] <sethk> arrick, ok
[12:08] <kingspawn> this channel is so insanely friendly its almost too much
[12:08] <Inazad> kingspawn: Yesterday, I do a modification for the login...
[12:08] <newbuntu> hi kingspawn
[12:08] <anto9us> obscurite, supposed to be hardware but it didn't work, I think it was pretending, linux sw raid
[12:08] <kingspawn> newbuntu: good evening
[12:09] <MarioNunes> hi
[12:09] <Inazad> kingspawn: I think I have marked automaticly loggin with my username
[12:09] <MarioNunes> good evening
[12:09] <obscurite> anto9us - can you msg me your /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf?
[12:09] <Inazad> kingspawn: then, I cannot login with the .log-in. screen
[12:09] <kingspawn> Inazad: tell me, can you boot ubuntu at all?
[12:09] <kingspawn> Inazad: im not entirely sure what you are saying
[12:09] <newbuntu> is it possible to reinstall kbuntu without wiping out all your software and settings? I cant tell what all programs were deleted by the failed apt-get session
[12:09] <Inazad> kingspawn: It said: FATAL : Module ext2 not found.
[12:10] <anto9us> obscurite, http://pastebin.com/646947
[12:10] <newbuntu> I know it was abunch of KDE stuff though
[12:10] <Inazad> kingspawn: When the loading are finish, i cannot login I just see the background and my mouse...
[12:10] <nat> hi everyone
[12:10] <obscurite> antu9us - thanks
[12:10] <kingspawn> newbuntu: ubuntu you _might_ try apt-get -f install
[12:10] <kingspawn> newbuntu: no guarantees, just a theory
[12:10] <hyphenated> has anyone burned a CD iso to a DVD? does it work? :-)
[12:10] <Inazad> kingspawn: when I'm going in a shell, i see : FATAL: Module ext2 not founded
[12:10] <newbuntu> that unjams apt-get but as for the programs that vanished?
[12:10] <kingspawn> Inazad: then you press CTRL-ALT-F1
[12:10] <hyphenated> I only have blank DVD-RWs lying around the house
[12:11] <anto9us> obscurite, I have another raid0 set up across the 2 of the devices also
[12:11] <newbuntu> even their icons dissappeared
[12:11] <kingspawn> Inazad: hm, you might really hve a very bad partition on your hands
[12:11] <kingspawn> Inazad: try reinstalling
[12:11] <ruggy> anyone here use a cellular internet connection?
[12:11] <sheng> damn it
[12:11] <obscurite> anto9us - my raid1 is one bug partition (no swap) and i need to figure out how to get swap
[12:11] <sheng> firefox wont start now
[12:11] <Inazad> kingspawn:  I'll not loose all of my windows ?
[12:11] <sheng> is there another browser built in?
[12:11] <kingspawn> ruggy: where are you, siberia?
[12:11] <anto9us> obscurite, don't put swap on raid, no need
[12:11] <kingspawn> Inazad: yes, surely
[12:11] <kingspawn> Inazad: if your harddisk is broken, you'll loose everything
[12:12] <Inazad> kingspawn: I will loose my windows?
[12:12] <obscurite> anto9us - my applications actually depend on /tmp not being lost
[12:12] <nat> does anyone know what kind of decoder you need to play dvd on ogle
[12:12] <kingspawn> Inazad: i just lost a 160gb disk the other day
[12:12] <kingspawn> Inazad: is it on the same disk?
[12:12] <Inazad> kingspawn: yes
[12:12] <obscurite> anto9us - if /tmp is lost, things go weird
[12:12] <aridese> how do i mount *.bin
[12:12] <anto9us> obscurite, /tmp isn't swap, unless you can tell me different
[12:12] <kingspawn> Inazad: well, the reinstall of ubuntu should not break it
[12:12] <obscurite> anto9us - hmm, good point
[12:12] <Inazad> kingspawn: but, its not supposed to crash... it works perfectly yesterday and I do nothing...
[12:12] <kingspawn> Inazad: be SURE to select ext3 as your filesystem, its a bit better with errors
[12:13] <devnull_> hello i am having an issue removing a package it fails with a diversion error
[12:13] <obscurite> anto9us - hmm, not sure hwere that thought was going
[12:13] <newbuntu> it always takes weeks to teak your ubuntu the way you want it, then everything goes amuck and you feel like starting all over again, I need to make myself a manual of all the java, realplayer, dvdnav , k3b-mp3 etc etc
[12:13] <kingspawn> Inazad: if your harddisk is broken, it will crash if you like it or not
[12:13] <Inazad> kingspawn: my bro choose ext2...
[12:13] <spikeb> weeks?
[12:13] <Inazad> kingspawn:  my hd it's not broken
[12:13] <spikeb> takes me a couple hours.
[12:13] <kingspawn> Inazad: well, choose ext3 next time
[12:13] <Inazad> kingspawn: what's the difference?
[12:13] <kingspawn> newbuntu: that manual is at help.ubuntu.com :)
[12:13] <kingspawn> Inazad: you dont need to know, just think that 3 is larger than 2
[12:14] <Inazad> kingspawn: :P
[12:14] <Inazad> kingspawn:  I'll reinstall
[12:14] <Inazad> kingspawn: you'll there this night?
[12:14] <kingspawn> Inazad: yes, and do a complete format
[12:14] <newbuntu> maybe its a stable /unstable conflict with debs i'm installing that makes things go bad
[12:14] <kingspawn> Inazad: not just a quick one
[12:14] <aridese> how do you mount *.bin
[12:14] <Inazad> ok
[12:14] <Inazad> bye
[12:14] <kingspawn> Inazad: i'll be here for... a couple of hours more
[12:14] <kingspawn> Inazad: meaning 4
[12:14] <ltR20> hey, new nvidia drivers came out today.
[12:14] <kingspawn> since i prefer to sit at home friday evenings coding assembler
[12:14] <sval> kingspawn, dont need ti reinstall to upgrade to ext3 ...
[12:14] <kingspawn> while my gf is out with her friends...
[12:14] <obscurite> anto9us - so i should make each disk have an auto raid partition and a swap partition and make my swap partition off of one of the two disks. what happens when the swap disk fails?
[12:15] <aridese> how do you mount *.bin
[12:15] <newbuntu> I gave up on my via onboard soundcard that kept failing to be recognized so I got a cheap soundblaster and it works great
[12:15] <kingspawn> sval: no, but he cant boot because of what seems to be a broken hd...
[12:15] <anto9us> obscurite, keep swap and raid seperate
[12:15] <aridese> how do you mount *.bin
[12:15] <Inazad> kingspawn: Where I can change the auto-login config file?
[12:15] <nat>  hi eveyone
[12:15] <sval> kingspawn, ok, my mistake :p
[12:16] <kingspawn> sval: its all good, since we seem to be in the hood
[12:16] <obscurite> anto9us - let's say /dev/sda1 has my swap partition. if it fails, will swpa automatically use /dev/sdb1 swap or do i need to console in with a rescue disk and change it to recover
[12:16] <newbuntu> thanks
[12:16] <Inazad> kingspawn: Where I can change the auto-login config file?
[12:16] <nat> does anyone know what kind of decoder you need to run dvd on ogle
[12:16] <kingspawn> Inazad: probably in ~/.gconf
[12:16] <kingspawn> Inazad: but i dont really know much about gui's
[12:17] <anto9us> obscurite, if the device fails your system may lock up or something, a mirror will make no difference to my mind
[12:17] <aridese> how do you mount *.bin
[12:17] <Inazad> kingspawn: what's GUI?
[12:17] <sval> Inazad, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[12:17] <Cloud_tm> Ahem
[12:17] <Cloud_tm> hello?
[12:17] <Cloud_tm> I need help
[12:17] <Inazad> sval: ok wait me
[12:17] <Cloud_tm> with sound
[12:17] <kingspawn> sval: excellent :)
[12:17] <sval> Inazad, or just use gdmsetup
[12:17] <Inazad> sval: ok
[12:18] <kingspawn> Inazad: GUI means "Graphical User Interface" - gnome is such an interface, or kde, or windows xp
[12:18] <Cloud_tm> In frozen bubble, the sound doesnt work
[12:18] <aridese> how do you mount *.bin
[12:18] <kingspawn> Inazad: means you can use your mouse to point and click on stuff
[12:18] <disasm> one annoying thing i don't think is possible, but might as well ask anyway... when I hibernate and have ssh sessions open is their anyway to a) have them reconnect when it wakes up again or b) (slightly more realistic option) kill the ssh session so I don't have 50 terminals locked up that I can't close without kill (I have my terminals not showing window decorations)
[12:18] <anto9us> obscurite, what I know is, you can spread your swap across devices but you don't put them in raid containers, I could be wrong in this but that's how I've always done it
[12:18] <Inazad> kingspawn:  My display cant run
[12:18] <kingspawn> disasm: write a scritp
[12:18] <sval> aridese, what do you mean by "mounting *.bin" ?
[12:18] <Inazad> kingspawn: Because My ext2 module was not founded
[12:18] <kingspawn> disasm: make that "script"
[12:18] <Inazad> kingspawn: Because My ext2 module was not found*
[12:18] <aridese> sval, i have a bin file and i want to read the content
[12:19] <kingspawn> Inazad: yes, well, thats why i am talking about a reinstall
[12:19] <disasm> kingspawn: I guess I could killall ssh in the hibernate script
[12:19] <Cloud_tm> Anybody?
[12:19] <sheng> damn it
[12:19] <Inazad> aridese: vi file.bin
[12:19] <sheng> that install didn't work
[12:19] <Inazad> kingspawn: ok
[12:19] <kingspawn> disasm: indeed a clever plan! better than what i had in mind :)
[12:19] <Inazad> kingspawn: but my hd works perfectly
[12:19] <TheCreature> Hello :)
[12:19] <aridese> Inazad, it has files in it
[12:19] <sval> aridese, bin file are binary file, you can read these files as simple ascii file
[12:19] <kingspawn> Inazad: well, i dont know, its kind of an intangible problem
[12:19] <Inazad> kingspawn: I will re install
[12:19] <aridese> sval, it's a disk image
[12:19] <kingspawn> and i _am_ enjoying my beer.
[12:19] <disasm> kingspawn: what did you have in mind?
[12:19] <Inazad> kingspawn: can I boot with the safe mode ?
[12:20] <Inazad> kingspawn: or it's change nothing
[12:20] <hyphenated> disasm: in those ssh sessions, hit enter, then type ~.
[12:20] <sheng> someone help me install firefox
[12:20] <obscurite> anto9us - okay, i think my problem was thinking that the mirror would help me if a device failed. now i realize i need to reboot after a device failure before recovering. it doesn't just switch over to the other disk in mid-failure.
[12:20] <kingspawn> disasm: some kind of crazy python script that goes through your ssh-pids at bootup, kills and goes all crazy
[12:20] <TheCreature> I have a message that says: "W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:20] <TheCreature> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)"
[12:20] <kingspawn> disasm: your plan is _that_ much better :)
[12:20] <sheng> i follewed the directions on that site, and now i can't even start it from the application menu
[12:20] <hyphenated> disasm: that should exit ssh smoothly
[12:20] <sheng> only 1.07 again from usr/bin
[12:20] <anto9us> obscurite, I think you're looking at a failover system for that
[12:20] <TheCreature> when I start Synaptic package manager. How do I fix it?
[12:20] <Inazad> kingspawn: Are u good with SSH ?
[12:20] <obscurite> anto9us - does such a thing even exist? :)
[12:20] <kingspawn> Inazad: define good.
[12:21] <samojord> hi there, i am very new to linux and ubuntu, but i would really appreciate some help. Right the problem...
[12:21] <samojord> I have just installed the breezy badger version of ubuntu and once it has installed,
[12:21] <samojord>  i login and everything works excellently. Once i reset my laptop ubuntu loads up up to the brown loader
[12:21] <samojord>  then when my loading icon on the mouse appears the whole system freezes, but i can still Ctrl+alt+del
[12:21] <samojord>  to reset it. i have tried installing this about 3 times and it has always been the same error everytime.
[12:21] <samojord>  Please can someone help me with this problem?????
[12:21] <samojord> hi there, i am very new to linux and ubuntu, but i would really appreciate some help. Right the problem...
[12:21] <samojord> I have just installed the breezy badger version of ubuntu and once it has installed,
[12:21] <samojord>  i login and everything works excellently. Once i reset my laptop ubuntu loads up up to the brown loader
[12:21] <aridese> how do i mount a *.bin disk image?
[12:21] <samojord>  then when my loading icon on the mouse appears the whole system freezes, but i can still Ctrl+alt+del
[12:21] <samojord>  to reset it. i have tried installing this about 3 times and it has always been the same error everytime.
[12:21] <ltR20> when will the new NVIDIA Drivers be availible to download ?
[12:21] <samojord>  Please can someone help me with this problem?????
[12:21] <Inazad> kingspawn: to resolve my prob ! ;)
[12:21] <fiendskull9> .join #gentoo
[12:21] <anto9us> obscurite, yes, a second machine mirroring and possibly even contributing to the load of the first one
[12:21] <kingspawn> Inazad: i really dont get it. how can your ssh-server run if your disk refuses to mount?
[12:21] <aridese> how do i mount a *.bin disk image?
[12:21] <kingspawn> brb, toilet
[12:21] <obscurite> anto9us - ahh, right
[12:21] <Inazad> kingspawn: oops
[12:21] <Inazad> kingspawn:  i'll re install
[12:21] <Inazad> y<
[12:21] <IamEthos> does anyone know of something like KSmoothDock for Gnome?
[12:21] <Inazad> bye
[12:22] <aridese> how do i mount a *.bin disk image?
[12:22] <IamEthos> (or if KSmoothDock will run on Gnome?)
[12:22] <fiendskull9> IamEthos, like osx style dock?
[12:22] <obscurite> anto9us - now i need to figure out how to set up the swap. i guess just having a swap partition on each drive will do the trick...
[12:22] <IamEthos> fiendskull9, it's like that, but it's actually a panel
[12:22] <joshisscifi> Hey everybody
[12:22] <IamEthos> that just magnifies icons on mouseovers
[12:22] <disasm> kingspawn: that did the trick, thanks for the idea :-D
[12:22] <fiendskull9> IamEthos, well, u could try Gdesklets, and get the Launcher thing
[12:23] <aridese> how do i mount a *.bin disk image?
[12:23] <kingspawn> disasm: great!
[12:23] <anto9us> obscurite, that's what I do, just set several swaps on each device, outside the raid partitions
[12:23] <Inazad> kingspawn: On my /etc/gdm/gdm.conf file, where it's written AutomaticLogin, it's my user..
[12:23] <IamEthos> fiendskull9, I tried that, didn't really care for it
[12:23] <kingspawn> disasm: what's with the nick?
[12:23] <Inazad> kingspawn: AutomaticLogin=inazad
[12:23] <kingspawn> Inazad: delete the whole automaticlogin
[12:23] <joshisscifi> hopefully someone can help... I am trying to run 'sudo apt-get install build-essential checkinstall xlibs-dev', and it says the following:
[12:23] <kingspawn> Inazad: or google AutomaticLogin, to see if theres a value to negate it
[12:23] <TheCreature> When I start Synaptic Package Manager I get the following error message:
[12:23] <TheCreature> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:23] <TheCreature> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[12:23] <TheCreature> How do I fix it? 0.0
[12:23] <Inazad> kingspawn: I delete my name or I delete all the line ?
[12:24] <joshisscifi> The following packages have unmet dependencies: fluxbox: Depends: menu (>= 2.1.19) but it is not going to be installed
[12:24] <kingspawn> TheCreature: apt-get update
[12:24] <joshisscifi> libimlib2 but it is not going to be installed
[12:24] <kingspawn> TheCreature: (i hope)
[12:24] <obscurite> anto9us - thanks you really helped me understand things
[12:24] <kingspawn> Inazad: the whole line, i would think
[12:24] <Inazad> kingspawn: ok... wait me
[12:24] <kingspawn> Inazad: but i am just throwing out ballpark stuff here
[12:24] <kingspawn> heh
[12:24] <anto9us> obscurite, well, maybe you can return the favour some day :D
[12:24] <obscurite> anto9us - it'd be my pleasure
[12:25] <frozen_> hi$
[12:25] <Fnoy> hello
[12:25] <TheCreature> Thanks, kingspawn, I'll try that! ^_^
[12:25] <kingspawn> i am listening to old prodigy, realizing that it is really crap
[12:25] <Fnoy> i have a quastion
[12:25] <obscurite> anto9us - I suppose now I need to re-install and rebuild my raid. oh fun ;)
[12:25] <tomski> can someone please tell me how to set up a new user via command line
[12:25] <kingspawn> Fnoy: fire
[12:25] <Inazad> kingspawn: How I can save and wuit a file in command line?
[12:25] <aridese> how do i mount a *.bin disk image?
[12:25] <kingspawn> tomski: adduser <name>
[12:25] <aridese> how do i mount a *.bin disk image?
[12:25] <Inazad> kingspawn: (I'm noob)
[12:25] <arnon> what is the package name for ssh server ?
[12:25] <hyphenated> tomski: 'sudo adduser username'
[12:25] <Fnoy> im now in ubuntu live cd is it possible to install it right wher i am now
[12:25] <kingspawn> Inazad: depends on which editor you are using
[12:25] <sval> tomski, adduser
[12:25] <joshisscifi> brb
[12:25] <anto9us> obscurite, repartitioning gives you enought time to learn the errors of your ways I suppose :)
[12:25] <Inazad> kingspawn: vi editor
[12:25] <disasm> kingspawn: i got the nick in high school when friends would show me a cool z80 assembly program they wrote for TI-86 calculators, and around lunch time I'd come back with their code disassembled :-D
[12:26] <kingspawn> Inazad: use nano, at the bottom it lists which keys to press to save and such. ^ menas CTRL
[12:26] <kingspawn> s/menas/means
[12:26] <hyphenated> arnon: openssh-server
[12:26] <ltR20> how do i close x and go to a terminal
[12:26] <Inazad> kingspawn:  ok but now I cant leave the editor
[12:26] <ltR20> i wan't to install drivers
[12:26] <kingspawn> disasm: hahah, nice. i love disassembly, makes my day that much more fun
[12:26] <arnon> hyphenated, thank you
[12:26] <kingspawn> Inazad: yes, i am quite sure you can
[12:26] <kingspawn> Inazad: CTRL-x
[12:26] <Bambino> Excuse me, I am running KDE on UBUNTU on a laptop. Everything works except when i press FN and upper arrow. It should higher the volume on my sound. It does not =( nothing hppens. Anyone knows why?
[12:26] <kingspawn> Inazad: CTRL-o to save file
[12:26] <Fnoy> kingspwan what do you mean fire
[12:26] <hyphenated> Bambino: #kubuntu
[12:27] <sval> ltR20, ctrl-alt F1
[12:27] <jomura> Are there any chat in spanish?
[12:27] <leleobhz> have ffmpeg2theora package on ubuntu?
[12:27] <arnon> how do I tell ubuntu to look for package from internet source instead of cdrom ?
[12:27] <Bambino> jomura: #ubuntu-es
[12:27] <kingspawn> Fnoy: i mean: ask your question
[12:27] <jomura> thnaks
[12:27] <hyphenated> arnon: remove the cdrom line from /etc/apt/sources.list and run sudo apt-get update again
[12:28] <sval> arnon, just comment the first line in the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[12:28] <disasm> kingspawn: writing a multi-cycle cpu in vhdl, and we were given a set of instructions in the program memory to run, rather than just figuring out what the code block did, i wrote a simple c++ program taking the hex inputs, converting to binary, and then disassembles the binary into assembly
[12:28] <anto9us> Bambino, theres's a package somewhere that you need to install io set obscure functions like that, I'll see if I can find out what it's called
[12:28] <Fnoy> im right now in ubuntu live cd is it possible to install it wher i am right now
[12:28] <Inazad> kingspawn: how I can leave the ***** editor
[12:28] <tomski> i get the error "chown 1001:1001" when I try to do adduser. any ideas?
[12:28] <Bambino> anto9us: thanks! ;)
[12:28] <Zimx> Is anyone using MYSQL Administrator?
[12:28] <disasm> Inazad: im going to guess you mean vi esc :wq
[12:28] <Zimx> Or is there other good mysql-gui programs?
[12:29] <obscurite> disasm - so you wrote a disassembler for your cpu
[12:29] <kingspawn> disasm: thats my kind of man! heh. i am just getting into the elf-format, have you read a quick tutorial named "teensy elf"? its real cool, some guy picks apart the elf-header so bad its not even funny
[12:29] <kingspawn> Inazad: well, you leave NANO with CTRL-x
[12:29] <Inazad> kingspawn: wait me
[12:29] <kingspawn> Inazad: you leave Vi with :wq
[12:29] <anto9us> Bambino, it might be lineakd
[12:29] <slavik> anyone good with dot/dotty?
[12:29] <kingspawn> Inazad: you leave emacs with CTRL-x CTRL-c
[12:29] <thecrazymonk86> hey i just saw this when i started "Mounting local drives:   Failed"
[12:29] <Fnoy> wow what a feed back
[12:29] <thecrazymonk86> how do i fix that
[12:29] <kingspawn> thecrazymonk86: depends. what does your fstab contain on the drive that failed?
[12:30] <disasm> kingspawn: i'll look into it
[12:30] <Bambino> anto9us: is it called "lineakd" ?
[12:30] <kingspawn> Fnoy: i dont believe so. and cut the snappy-ness.
[12:30] <anto9us> Bambino, yes, it's in univers/x11
[12:30] <arnon> hyphenated, thank you
[12:30] <Fnoy> ogay
[12:30] <hyphenated> Bambino: you don't need that, but can install it if you want
[12:30] <kingspawn> disasm: www.ag0ny.net/~xpozed links to it
[12:30] <Inazad> ok
[12:31] <Se7h> ?---------  ? ?    ?            ?                ? /media/icy_more/Movies
[12:31] <kingspawn> disasm: sometimes im desperate for ... yeah, "your" kind of people in here
[12:31] <Inazad> kingspawn: I jst put a # before the two line
[12:31] <Se7h> that appears on a ls -l
[12:31] <sval> aridese, bin2iso software exists, dont think it's present in ubuntu but you may find it on internet
[12:31] <kingspawn> Inazad: thats alright too
[12:31] <Se7h> i cant access the dir
[12:31] <Inazad> kingspawn: How I can reboot
[12:31] <kingspawn> Inazad: shutdown -r now (but remember, this starts the reboot process immediately)
[12:31] <sval> Inazad, sudo reboot
[12:31] <thecrazymonk86> kingspawn, i dont know
[12:31] <Inazad> ok
[12:31] <Inazad> bye guys
[12:31] <kingspawn> Inazad: insert sudo before EVERYTHING i say
[12:32] <kingspawn> i cant remember that stuff
[12:32] <sfar> How can fix i start "system monitor" by pressing ctrl+alt+del ?
[12:32] <sfar> +so
[12:32] <sfar> +that
[12:32] <sfar> -beer
[12:32] <kingspawn> haha
[12:32] <kingspawn> sfar: beer!
[12:32] <sfar> :D
[12:32] <sfar> \o/
[12:32] <kingspawn> you shouldnt fix that, though
[12:32] <sfar> beer and linux 4 the win
[12:32] <kingspawn> since its win32-"syntax"
[12:32] <anto9us> hyphenated, he can configure it without that?
[12:32] <kingspawn> sfar: yeah
[12:33] <kingspawn> sfar: im drinking steadily
[12:33] <obscurite> anto9us - i removed a drive before and when i put it back in it rebuilt fine. now i tried the other drive after a reboot but it won't start rebuilding. any ideas on how to kickstart it?
[12:33] <sfar> kingspawn: yea but im used to it :)
[12:33] <hyphenated> anto9us: in KDE, yes
[12:33] <nat> does anyone know what kind of decoders you use to run dvds on ogle
[12:33] <kingspawn> sfar: then... get "unused" :)
[12:33] <aridese> what a fucking pain
[12:33] <newbuntu> does anyone here use bittornado? if so ... how do you point your browser to to the gui when you click on a torrent?  We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[12:35] <sval> aridese, *.bin image are binary WINDOWS image, so it's no conventional, you have to convert bin into iso file and mount in loopback
[12:35] <kingspawn> Inazad: well, i cant tell, my best advice is reinstall
[12:35] <robertj> how can I redirect users from a certian IP address to a different port?
[12:35] <devnull_> is there any way to get a single restricted module from linux-restricted-modules?
[12:35] <sval> aridese, use bin2iso.c and compile it
[12:35] <anto9us> obscurite, I've never really played with raid1, might be very different
[12:35] <nickgarvey> Inazad: try a different desktop
[12:35] <devnull_> i need the ati fglrx but am not using a ubuntu kernel
[12:35] <Inazad> kingspawn: ok but I'm not understanding why it crash too easily...  ?
[12:35] <kingspawn> robertj: might need to look into "route"
[12:35] <Inazad> nickgarvey: I'm with gnome
[12:35] <nickgarvey> Inazad: that happened with me so I tried xfce to see if that helped
[12:35] <kingspawn> robertj: by the way of "man route"
[12:35] <kingspawn> robertj: but really, read up on google :)
[12:36] <nickgarvey> Inazad: from the command line "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[12:36] <kingspawn> robertj: prolly easier than the man-pages for such a task
[12:36] <Inazad> nickgarvey: ok wait me
[12:36] <nickgarvey> kingspawn: what language does he speak?
[12:36] <anto9us> obscurite, to my mind, raid1 is for very mission critical where a fail over is prohibitive for some reason
[12:36] <kingspawn> nickgarvey: you tell me. he keeps telling me module ext2 doesnt load, but he can obviously boot all the way into "almost-gnome", so i am confused
[12:36] <obscurite> anto9us - i just need to make sure data isn't lost because restoring the system is time-prohibitive
[12:37] <Inazad> nickgarvey:  its said that the operation xubuntu-destop was not available
[12:37] <nickgarvey> Inazad: ubuntu-desktop
[12:37] <Inazad> oosp
[12:37] <Inazad> nickgarvey: wait me plz
[12:37] <TheCreature> Ok, I ran apt-get update and I get the following error: (it's long): bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly;
[12:37] <TheCreature>         perhaps it is corrupted?  *Possible* reason follows.
[12:37] <TheCreature> bzip2: Resource temporarily unavailable
[12:37] <TheCreature>         Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)
[12:37] <TheCreature> It is possible that the compressed file(s) have become corrupted.
[12:37] <TheCreature> You can use the -tvv option to test integrity of such files.
[12:37] <TheCreature> You can use the `bzip2recover' program to attempt to recover
[12:37] <TheCreature> data from undamaged sections of corrupted files.
[12:37] <anto9us> obscurite, just remember, it's only as good as your proven tests and then not always
[12:37] <nickgarvey> !tell TheCreature about pastebin
[12:37] <TheCreature> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[12:37] <TheCreature>   Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages - open (2 No such file or directory)
[12:37] <TheCreature> Fetched 2335kB in 10m31s (3695B/s)
[12:37] <kingspawn> TheCreature: no no no
[12:37] <TheCreature> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages - open (2 No such file or directory)
[12:37] <nickgarvey> !tell TheCreature about paste
[12:37] <Inazad> nickgarvey: same error msg
[12:37] <kingspawn> TheCreature: you must not paste like that heere
[12:37] <TheCreature> Reading package lists... Done
[12:37] <TheCreature> W: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Unknown error executing gpgv
[12:37] <TheCreature> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages)
[12:37] <obscurite> anto9us - one drive was removed and the array rebuilt. now i can't get md to recognize the other drive after removing it
[12:37] <TheCreature> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[12:37] <TheCreature> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:37] <Zimx> My MYsQL administrator closes when i try to edit an table..
[12:38] <kingspawn> TheCreature: you're sources.list is probably shot to kingdom cmoe
[12:38] <Inazad> kingspawn: I can't repair it only?
[12:38] <kingspawn> !sources
[12:38] <hyphenated> TheCreature: please stop pasting all of that stuff
[12:38] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:38] <duelboot> !pastebin
[12:38] <anto9us> TheCreature, don't paste here please
[12:38] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[12:38] <nickgarvey> Inazad: apt-get install
[12:38] <TheCreature> Sorry ^^
[12:38] <nat> hi
[12:38] <Inazad> nickgarvey: ok wait me plz
[12:38] <nickgarvey> Inazad: remember the word install
[12:38] <hyphenated> TheCreature: there are HUNDREDS of people in here. please paste a single URL to a pastebin, like other people do
[12:38] <nickgarvey> 672 to be exacty
[12:38] <Inazad> nickgarvey:  why?
[12:39] <kingspawn> hahha
[12:39] <hyphenated> TheCreature: people that care about your problem will load the link. really. they're nice like that
[12:39] <kingspawn> why indeed.
[12:39] <Inazad> nickgarvey: I have to update 80 packages...
[12:39] <nickgarvey> Inazad: what language do you speak?
[12:39] <Inazad> nickgarvey: french :S
[12:39] <anto9us> obscurite, yeah, I find recovery never as easy as promised in setup/backup
[12:39] <nickgarvey> !fr
[12:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:39] <TheCreature> Just 'cause there are hundreds of people here, doesn't mean that every single one of them has to tell me this.  One will do :p
[12:39] <Inazad> nickgarvey: what ?
[12:39] <obscurite> anto9us - booting the installer just to make sure the disk is actually connected ;)
[12:39] <nickgarvey> !tell Inazad about fr
[12:39] <hyphenated> TheCreature: well gee, we'll try to collaborate our annoyance in the future ;-)
[12:39] <Cooner750> Ubuntu wont let me empty the trash
[12:39] <nickgarvey> Cooner750: whats it say?
[12:40] <kingspawn> TheCreature: general irc practice: never paste more than 1 or 2 lines.
[12:40] <Inazad> nickgarvey: I dint understand what u're talking about?
[12:40] <Inazad> !fr
[12:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:40] <obscurite> Cooner750 - that's crazy. how can an OS stop you from keeping your house clean?
[12:40] <Inazad> #ubuntu-fr
[12:40] <kingspawn> Inazad: yes. /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:40] <anto9us> obscurite, if you have a terminal, lshw is useful
[12:40] <obscurite> anto9us - good point thanks
[12:40] <zerboxx> Hey, I got a new laptop and when I run the UbuntuLive CD it takes forever and a day to boot up, am I to expect this to happen if I fully install it?
[12:40] <robertj> ok, tougher one, is there a way to split up traffic destined for a local port into two different ports by ps #?
[12:40] <Cooner750> It says "Error while deleting". "/home/cono...speakers.P" cannot be deleted because you do not have permissions to modify it's parent folder"
[12:40] <nickgarvey> Inazad: type "/join #ubuntu-fr" in this window
[12:41] <hyphenated> zerboxx: no, you shouldn't expect that from the live CD either
[12:41] <mavric2001> zerboxx no cdrom drives have a slower speed
[12:41] <nickgarvey> Cooner750: do it as root
[12:41] <Cooner750> Is there a command to empty the trash?
[12:41] <hyphenated> zerboxx: in reality, do you mean 2-3 minutes, or more like 15?
[12:41] <Angel_Dex> how do i activate surround sound in 5.10?
[12:41] <nickgarvey> zerboxx: remember, you are booting an entire operating system off a single CD
[12:41] <zerboxx> hyphenated, mavric2001: It takes about 20 minutes to get to the desktop via the live cd
[12:42] <TheCreature> I get the following error when running apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11710  How do I fix it?
[12:42] <nickgarvey> zerboxx: that would be a problem though
[12:42] <zerboxx> nickgarvey, On my old laptop it took a few minutes, nothing like 20
[12:42] <Cooner750> or can I login as root?
[12:42] <Stormx2> Cooner750: Trash is stored in folders like .Trash-root across the FS, you'd have to loop through em and delete the contents of these directories
[12:42] <nickgarvey> zerboxx: yeah thats way to long
[12:42] <hyphenated> zerboxx: that's way too long for a normal modern laptop
[12:42] <mavric2001> angel_Dex: what chipset does your pc use
[12:42] <nickgarvey> zerboxx: play around with some of the boot options, perhaps noapic nolapic
[12:42] <kingspawn> Cooner750: rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
[12:42] <zerboxx> hyphenated, New AW laptop :/ I think I've read that they have problems with ubnutu
[12:42] <obscurite> Cooner750 - sounds like you have to go into ~/.Trash
[12:42] <aajaj> hi all
[12:42] <Angel_Dex> mavric2001 idk its a 2002 compaq with a p3 how would i check my chipset?
[12:42] <hyphenated> zerboxx: there may be workarounds using kernel options as nickgarvey just said
[12:43] <nickgarvey> zerboxx: thats what I had to do with my laptop
[12:43] <Stormx2> kingspawn: Surely rm -rf ~/.Trash-*/*
[12:43] <aajaj> im looking to start a linux system for my HTPC and wanted to know how
[12:43] <zerboxx> hyphenated, nickgarvey: I'm downloading the dapper live to see if that changes anything *shrug*
[12:43] <mavric2001> Angel_Dex does that laptop even have surround sound? I wouldnt think so
[12:43] <kingspawn> Stormx2: oh?
[12:43] <aajaj> i came a across a guide a couple of days ago for vdr and ubuntu
[12:43] <aajaj> but i cant find it anymore
[12:43] <Stormx2> kingspawn: I thought the directories were named like .Trash-username
[12:43] <TheCreature> I get the following error when running apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11710  How do I fix it?
[12:43] <Angel_Dex> mavric2001 its not a lap top its a desktop and i have a creative labs Soundblaster on it
[12:44] <zerboxx> hyphenated: I know this must be a very noobish type question, but can I burn the live cd to a dvd?
[12:44] <kingspawn> Stormx2: no reason for that, since theyre in the users home-dir, or..?
[12:44] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: 1. don't spam 2. wow you messed that up
[12:44] <mavric2001> thats 5.1 isnt it angel?
[12:44] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: get a new source.lst file
[12:44] <nickgarvey> !repos
[12:44] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:44] <Angel_Dex> mavric2001 Idk?
[12:44] <hyphenated> zerboxx: I asked that earlier :-) I only have blank dvd-rw's around the house
[12:44] <nickgarvey> !tell TheCreature about easysource
[12:44] <Stormx2> kingspawn: Meh looks like im wrong
[12:44] <zerboxx> hyphenated: hehe, and the reply you got?
[12:44] <hyphenated> zerboxx: and nobody knows. I don't imagine it works, but I will try anyway, because it's a dvd-rw so I can use it again if I need to
[12:44] <TheCreature> nickgarvey: I'm not spamming, I was told earlier to keep posting my question if it doesn't get answered.
[12:44] <Angel_Dex> mavric2001 creative labs SB audigy LS
[12:45] <mavric2001> check in ubuntu forums, sound blaster 5.1 is the the first place i would look angel
[12:45] <TheCreature> And thanks for the info ^_^
[12:45] <anto9us> obscurite, I could restore my email/samba/database/web services on another server within an hour or two, including travel time (if needed), is that too prohibitive?
[12:45] <zerboxx> hyphenated: Well I'll give it a shot, I have a handful of dvd-r's so I'm content with loosing one
[12:45] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: yeah but over and over in a period of less than 2 minutes is to much
[12:45] <hyphenated> TheCreature: who told you to keep posting your question if it doesn't get answered?
[12:45] <nickgarvey> TheCreature: try that, you really messed it up though heh
[12:45] <mavric2001> or sound blaster audigy
[12:46] <obscurite> anto9us - yeah, i need to be able to reboot and be up
[12:46] <intelikey> howto use xdm to automaticly login one user ?
[12:46] <Angel_Dex> mavric2001 Hum >< i have a set of logitech x530s taht are 5.1
[12:46] <obscurite> anto9us - but for other applications it would be fine to take 2 hours
[12:46] <Angel_Dex> idk
[12:47] <anto9us> obscurite, safest is a failover system, mirroring the other
[12:47] <obscurite> anto9us - more expensive than raid1 though ;)
[12:47] <Cooner750> anyone know of a good site for FREE website templates?
[12:47] <TheCreature> hyphenated: I don't remember. It was maybe last week or so.  I posted my question and everyone kept ignoring it, so I'm like "Could someone please direct me to the ubuntu support channel" and someone like "You're there" I: "So how does one get support?"  person: "you ask a question"  Me: " I did. Three times."  Person: "Well, this is IRC, you just have to keep posting it untill somebody answers".
[12:47] <`underOATH> Does anyone know how to get AIM to install for linux ?
[12:47] <anto9us> obscurite, that can be disproven when things don't boot
[12:47] <hyphenated> TheCreature: that was really bad advice
[12:47] <`underOATH> There is a version of aim for Linux now.
[12:48] <obscurite> anto9us - in this case i am doing raid1 and failover actually
[12:48] <Angel_Dex> `underOATH why not just use gaim or kopete?
[12:48] <hyphenated> TheCreature: and if you ask again, it should be after waiting a reasonable length of time, like 4 hours, and doing some google searches in between
[12:48] <intelikey> anybody ?
[12:48] <sval> `underOATH, just use GAIM
[12:48] <obscurite> anto9us - i also have hardware raid cards coming, but wanted to see how sw raid would work, since i plan to use it on other servers
[12:48] <`underOATH> Angel_Dex, and sval: i don't like those :(
[12:48] <mavric2001> angel not sure what to tell you, ive no problems with my onboard nvidia sound card
[12:48] <kakashi> hi there
[12:48] <Angel_Dex> mavric2001 idk i pluged them in and no surround sound
[12:48] <shrewduser> anyone know how to instal the dapper kernel sources so i can compile the new nvidia drivers for it?
[12:48] <sval> `underOATH, kopete ?
[12:48] <intelikey> TheCreature you can ask questions that are too hard for this channel...
[12:48] <Angel_Dex> regular sound yess but the middle and rear speakers do not work
[12:49] <philipacamaniac> can someone point me to dbus reference documentation for various GNOME apps?
[12:49] <`underOATH> sval, what is that ?
[12:49] <TheCreature> hyphenated: I don't think 4 hours is a reasonable amount of time.  I'd say if it's not answereed in 30 minutes everyone overlooked it.
[12:49] <anto9us> obscurite, I don't think there's much difference, do a trial run on it though... a backup is only as good as proven restore
[12:49] <obscurite> anot9us - amen brother!
[12:49] <TheCreature> intelikey: really? Which channel would be better to ask harder questions in?
[12:49] <sval> `underOATH, a multiprotocol client
[12:49] <mavric2001> right click your speaker icon select properties make sure the proper channels are enabled
[12:49] <hyphenated> TheCreature: there isn't a good channel for questions that are too hard for IRC :-) it's the nature of the question
[12:50] <`underOATH> Can someone help me get the official AIM linux client to work ?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> TheCreature: there is no such thing as a hard question or easy question
[12:50] <hyphenated> some questions have answers that are much too involved as well, and are better answered in a wiki or some other webpage
[12:50] <intelikey> TheCreature yes 30 minutes is long enough to wait.  and overlooked may not be accurate.   everyone may have read it and knwe they couldn't answer so they didn't try...
[12:50] <kingspawn> gnomefreak: now we are getting philosophical
[12:50] <zido> how do i load the new edited xorg.conf?
[12:50] <Angel_Dex> Anyone know how to make surround sound work?? TT_TT
[12:50] <gnomefreak> kingspawn: no what one person doesnt know another might
[12:50] <obscurite> anto9us - i'm worried that if the system is looking for swap on one disk and then i boot up with the other disk, swap won't work
[12:50] <sval> `underOATH, official AIM on linux ? doesn't exist
[12:50] <devnull_> how can i find out what drivers are built into the ubuntu kernel images that they offer ?
[12:50] <nat> hi everyone
[12:50] <kingspawn> gnomefreak: still, that does not pertain to the definition of a question
[12:51] <`underOATH> Yes, It does sval: www.aim.com
[12:51] <kakashi> i have a problem: i installed ubuntu and windows and im already using those two OSsystems for quite a long time but i had to boot from the windows cdrom because of formating a disk (i know i could have formated it in windows and linux or any other utility but it did not work in any os) it worked, but my MBR was deleted and that means i have no LILO but the system foulders are still in tact. My question is how to recover the MBR ?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> sval: use gaim the aim thats packaged for linux is like 1.5 and garbage
[12:51] <intelikey> TheCreature ##linux   at times.  can field some real tuffies.   or maybe even #linuxhelp
[12:51] <TheCreature> nickgarvey: what options do I click on  http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic to get the file I need?
[12:51] <philipacamaniac> no dbus experts?
[12:51] <nat> is anyone going to answer
[12:51] <ubuntu> where do i get edubuntu shipped to me?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> philipacamaniac: you talking python-dbus?
[12:51] <shrewduser> will there be a nice synaptic package for the new nvidia drivers? (dapper) ?
[12:51] <TheCreature> intelikey: Ok :)
[12:51] <whiter> answer what
[12:51] <obscurite> hi nat :P
[12:51] <`underOATH> sval, version 1.5.286
[12:52] <kbrooks> ubuntu: why?
[12:52] <nat> what kind of decoders do you need to run dvd from ogle
[12:52] <nat> thank you
[12:52] <kingspawn> TheCreature: beware of ##linux though. they are real hardas*es. atleast they used to be.
[12:52] <anto9us> obscurite, reboot shouldn't be an issue in that regard, maintaining a live system that becomes critical
[12:52] <intelikey> TheCreature it also depends on the specifics of your question.   i.e.  php questions go to php   xorg to #xorg   and so on.
[12:52] <kingspawn> nat: i cant help you off the bat, but what is ogle?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: i dont think it will be shipped i think its just ubuntu kubuntu in june
[12:52] <meagsquid> anyoen got any good laptop recommendations, been a while since i've gotten a new one?
[12:52] <sval> `underOATH, my mistake, i have a look
[12:52] <`underOATH> sval, I just can't get it too work.
[12:52] <kingspawn> meagsquid: just dont get a major brand one
[12:52] <TheCreature> intelikey: but mine are all Ubuntu questions ><
[12:52] <philipacamaniac> gnomefreak: sorry I'm really asking about dbus-send. Like if I created a shell-script that used dbus-send to send commands to say, Totem or Rhythmbox, or Gnome-panel, where is the documentation that has those available commands
[12:52] <anto9us> obscurite, I've learned to distrust speedy recovery, I've my own obscure methods of handling these situations, social engineering not being the least of them
[12:52] <kingspawn> meagsquid: and not a very minor brand either.. :)
[12:52] <intelikey> TheCreature as in ?
[12:53] <zido> anybody know how i reload X to load with the new xorg.conf config?
[12:53] <ubuntu> im on a live "regular" ubuntu cd but everything i download doesnt work where do i go to get edubuntu shipped?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ogle is a music player
[12:53] <philipacamaniac> or just a basic dbus-send tutorial, in case I'm not quite grasping the concept
[12:53] <kakashi> how to recover the MBR ?
[12:53] <meagsquid> kingspawn: so who's your rec?
[12:53] <nat> ogle is a music player
[12:53] <obscurite> anto9us - social engineering people so you don't take the heat when things fail? or social engineering to get help?
[12:53] <kingspawn> meagsquid: hm, well, ive had luck with asus. in my opinion they are beneath dell in "knowability" and above the crazy asian brands
[12:53] <gnomefreak> philipacamaniac: i dont know of any howtos or anything on dbus
[12:53] <anto9us> obscurite, whatever works or is required :)
[12:54] <kingspawn> nat: help.ubuntu.com, search for restrictedformats inside the single page help html :)
[12:54] <TheCreature> intelikey: Like the other one. The ubuntu Synaptic Package manager is giving me an error.
[12:54] <`underOATH> Based on http://www.aim.com/get_aim/linux/latest_linux.adp: which version should i get if i'm using ubuntu ?
[12:54] <nat> ok thank you
[12:54] <MacSlow> ehm... anybody gave the new 1.0-8756 driver from nvidia a test-run yet?
[12:54] <TheCreature> Well, now it doesn't. Now it's the apt-get update thing..
[12:54] <philipacamaniac> gnomefreak: well isn't that kinda dumb. perhaps I'll expert myself and write a reference manual.
[12:54] <intelikey> kakashi windows 9x & 2k   use fdisk /mbr   xp may have a utill for that also.... i don't do windows.
[12:54] <intelikey> TheCreature what error ?
[12:54] <TheCreature> (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11710)
[12:54] <intelikey> looking
[12:55] <sval> `underOATH, so just download the debian 3+ deb file and ' sudo dpkg -i file.deb'
[12:55] <kakashi> inteklikey: what do you mean by 9x & 2k ?
[12:55] <TheCreature> intelikey: That's after the apt-get update, though.  Not synaptic package manager.
[12:55] <kingspawn> intelikey: fdisk /mbr doesnt work under xp anymore?
[12:55] <`underOATH> ok sval
[12:55] <anto9us> obscurite, you can protect yourself immensely by having no single point of failure
[12:55] <obscurite> anto9us - where are you based?
[12:55] <sval> `underOATH, hope it helps
[12:55] <anto9us> obscurite, south Wales, UK
[12:55] <kakashi> i cant use fdisk mbr ...cause there is no place to use it ... i could use a liveCD but i dont have one and dont want do load one from the internet
[12:56] <obscurite> anto9us - the bigest point of failure for the system i am building is the power
[12:56] <kingspawn> kakashi: what's "no place to use it"?
[12:56] <obscurite> anto9us - the server room wiring is just scary
[12:56] <anto9us> obscurite, if you can disseminate any services to other machines, do so
[12:56] <intelikey> TheCreature looks like you need to   " sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update "
[12:56] <kakashi> kingspawn: no MBR ... no linux ... i cant boot it
[12:56] <saif> Hello.
[12:56] <kingspawn> no mbr? well, then you need to get a bootable cd
[12:56] <kingspawn> kakashi: or floppy
[12:56] <kingspawn> heh
[12:57] <TheCreature> intelikey: Ok. Thank you! I'll try that right now.
[12:57] <sval> kakashi, did you try grub-install ?
[12:57] <philipacamaniac> is there an easy way to autologin to IRC rooms from Gaim?
[12:57] <anto9us> obscurite, hope you're not working full time in there then, guess heat will be an issue :)
[12:57] <kakashi> kingspawn: yeah could be a way
[12:58] <intelikey> TheCreature also of note.  if you ask and nobody seems to notice you.  watch who is answering a log of questions, then when they have a moment free, prepend their nick to your question....  :)
[12:58] <kakashi> kingspawn: you know how to creat a boot disc?
[12:58] <kingspawn> kakashi: depends entirely on the environment
[12:58] <obscurite> anto9us - this application will host email/db/nfs on these two servers, each raid1, and the web apps are served off of 4 load balanced web servers (redundant load balancers too)
[12:58] <TheCreature> intelikey: ooo! Ok. I'll keep that in mind :)
[12:58] <kingspawn> kakashi: google is very good at these things
[12:58] <kingspawn> kakashi: what do you want to do?
[12:59] <anto9us> obscurite, how many clients?
[12:59] <kingspawn> kakashi: have you got access to a cd-burner? if so, ultimate boot cd is great
[12:59] <Fnoy> what is the root password int he live cd
[12:59] <obscurite> anto9us - sadly i think there is some network gear between the core switches and the load balancers that is not redundant
[12:59] <frank23> Fnoy: ubuntu
[12:59] <obscurite> anto9us - about 35,000 users right now internally, plus some public hosting
[12:59] <kakashi> kingspawn: i have a ubuntu-install cd and i have access to a burner and i have just one free CD left ;o)
[12:59] <Fnoy> and username
[01:00] <kakashi> ok i have no free CD left sry
[01:00] <kakashi> ;o)
[01:00] <frank23> Fnoy: ubuntu
[01:00] <kingspawn> kakashi: where are you irc'ing from now?
[01:00] <Fnoy> thx pal
[01:00] <TheCreature> intelikey: when I do that update thing now it gives me this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11714
[01:00] <anto9us> obscurite, BIG offices :)
[01:00] <kakashi> windows
[01:00] <Angel_Dex> Anyone know how to make surround sound work?? TT_TT
[01:00] <kingspawn> kakashi: and, what is your mission?
[01:00] <kakashi> xchat is also available for windows
[01:00] <kingspawn> Angel_Dex: you need to wait for crimsun to be online, he knows sound
[01:00] <intelikey> TheCreature looking....
[01:01] <Angel_Dex> kingspawn, ok thank uou
[01:01] <obscurite> anto9us - these two backend ubuntu boxes are replacing an 8 year old sun E250 that has held up admirably
[01:01] <kakashi> my mission to recover the MasterBootRecord ...
[01:01] <Fnoy> ubuntu@82-203-172-59:~$ su
[01:01] <Fnoy> Password:
[01:01] <Fnoy> su: Authentication failure
[01:01] <Fnoy> Sorry.
[01:01] <Fnoy> its not ubuntu
[01:01] <kakashi> kingspawn: you sound like a souldier: what is your mission ... just i addition ;o)
[01:01] <kingspawn> kakashi: so you can boot winxp or the like?
[01:01] <sval> Fnoy, no root passwd with ubuntu
[01:01] <kingspawn> Fnoy: ubuntu disables root access by default. you cant su, you can sudo
[01:01] <meagsquid> kingspawn: asus manufactures the macbooks?
[01:01] <sval> Fnoy, you can define it with ' sudo passwd '
[01:02] <kakashi> im right now on my notebook which has only windows and i have a PC where i wanna recover ubuntu
[01:02] <Fnoy> what should i do
[01:02] <kingspawn> kakashi: everything computerrelated is like a war mission :)
[01:02] <sval> Fnoy, or ' sudo -s ' to open a root terminal
[01:02] <kingspawn> kakashi: damn near impossible, but somehow you survive
[01:02] <anto9us> obscurite, subnetting may be an option?
[01:02] <intelikey> TheCreature close synaptic and/or aptitude  make sure nothing is running apt  and then   "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock "   and try again.
[01:02] <kakashi> kingspawn:ok
[01:02] <kingspawn> kakashi: still - do you want to fix mbr to boot windows?
[01:02] <TheCreature> intelikey, ok. Trying..
[01:02] <Fnoy> ok now
[01:02] <zizzi> i speak xdutch
[01:02] <obscurite> anto9us - subnetting? the web stuff has it's own VLAN already
[01:02] <zizzi> hey lea
[01:03] <kakashi> kingspawn: i thing the windows boot cd deleted entry of ubuntu but windows works just fine on the PC
[01:03] <kingspawn> kakashi: aha. two secs, there is a guide
[01:03] <kakashi> kingspawn: and like i said ... partitions are still in tact
[01:04] <kakashi> kingspawn: ok
[01:04] <sval> kakashi, just boot with a ubuntu live cd a run ' grub-install ' , it will reinstall grub in MBR
[01:04] <kakashi> sval: i have no liveCD
[01:04] <zizzi> iI SPEAKE DUTCH
[01:04] <anto9us> obscurite, well, subnetting and web stuff are very seperate entitites, it's about minimising network traffic
[01:04] <kakashi> sval: i would have done it before when i had one
[01:04] <intelikey> !dualboot
[01:04] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:04] <kingspawn> kakashi: basically, what you do is run the installer, go until it installs grub again (dont modify your hd-settings), and just reboot it
[01:04] <TheCreature> intelikey, Now I get this message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11715
[01:05] <kingspawn> meagsquid: sorry, i dont know anything about macs
[01:05] <zizzi> BESTAAT MSN VOOR LINUX
[01:05] <obscurite> anto9us - i guess i'm in the dark on subnetting :)
[01:05] <kingspawn> zizzi: twice!
[01:05] <intelikey> TheCreature pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please.
[01:05] <kakashi> kingspawn: ah yeah ... i rememeber the install .... ok ill give it a shot
[01:05] <sval> kakashi, so configure the windows bootloader. boot on linux and run ' grub-install'
[01:06] <intelikey> TheCreature also that warning doesn't mean it failed.
[01:06] <obscurite> What's a good non-meat non-dairy meal to eat while configuring ubuntu servers?
[01:06] <TheCreature> intelikey: it says "sudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[01:06] <TheCreature> "
[01:06] <anto9us> obscurite, ok, think of local proxy servers for a department with it's own sub-network  and that about sums it up
[01:06] <kingspawn> obscurite: apples
[01:06] <intelikey> :)
[01:06] <ompaul> !nl
[01:06] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[01:06] <ompaul> zizzi, ^^^^^^^^
[01:06] <kingspawn> TheCreature: i guess you have to use an editor, if that is your mission
[01:07] <kakashi> sval: im already doing ... but thx very much :o) ....
[01:07] <intelikey> TheCreature   cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:07] <obscurite> kingspawn - I passed up an opportunity to buy farm fresh apples at the market earlier. DOH!
[01:07] <molinero> !apt
[01:07] <ubotu> apt is, like, totally, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[01:07] <kakashi> kingspawn: thx tooo
[01:07] <kingspawn> obscurite: bad mistake :)
[01:07] <kingspawn> kakashi: hope it works
[01:07] <kakashi> kingspawn: very much !!!
[01:07] <sval> kakashi,  ;-)
[01:07] <Fnoy> is ubuntu any good at supporting printers
[01:07] <kakashi> kingspawn: has to
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Thank you.  My brain was being dumb and couldn't remember the languge code :X
[01:07] <kingspawn> kakashi: :)
[01:07] <sval> Fnoy, like other distro
[01:07] <Fnoy> and that is?
[01:07] <obscurite> anto9us - I dunno if this helps, but I do run some proxy apaches on the web servers to offload some processing :)
[01:07] <Fnoy> bad right?
[01:07] <kingspawn> Fnoy: "yes"
[01:08] <ompaul> Fnoy, in general rather good - what printer are you thinking about?
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> Fnoy: Mine worked out of the box, but you'll have to do some research to see about yours.
[01:08] <Fnoy> canon smartbase mpc190
[01:08] <intelikey> TheCreature you did understand that that warning doesn't mean it failed .   it completed but the gpg=gnu privacy guard   errored on that list file.      k ?
[01:08] <sval> Fnoy, www.linuxprinting.org
[01:08] <TheCreature> intelikey, I remember I set up the apt-get thing before so that it would run off cd instead of the internet (couldn't connect to the net. Now I can) Do you think that might be the problem?  On and the sources thing is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11716
[01:09] <TheCreature> intelikey, so it doesn't like the sources.lst, huh?  Well it's good that it didn't fail completely.
[01:09] <anto9us> obscurite, I would guess some balancing in terms of terms of business logic rather than allowing all 35,000 staff to do whatever, might be required, that's where social engineering comes into play
[01:09] <intelikey> it didn't "fail" at all.  So all is well and I shouldn't worry?  And the sources lst looks ok?
[01:10] <Fnoy> its not
[01:10] <yanis> what should I do if a app askes me fro the kernel sources?
[01:10] <kakashi> kingspawn: ill speak to you later when i have lost all my data by formating the disks instead of just grubbing
[01:10] <Fnoy> windows didnt support it cuz of sp 2 and now ubuntu doesnt
[01:10] <Fnoy> aa man
[01:10] <anto9us> obscurite, I've dealt with that level of concurrency myself
[01:10] <kakashi> kingspawn: talk to you ...
[01:10] <obscurite> anto9us - the web server load is extremely low, even with reverse proxy going on
[01:11] <kingspawn> kakashi: hehe
[01:11] <kingspawn> kakashi: thatll be a nice conversation
[01:11] <obscurite> anto9us - the poor database was kind of dying on that old sun box though
[01:11] <anto9us> obscurite, yeah, I've had zope/postgresql cope with that
[01:11] <ltR20> hey guys, i'm trying to install the new nvidia drivers but it says x is already running.
[01:11] <kakashi> kingspawn: im in europe ... where are you?
[01:11] <ltR20> i'm installing the drivers from terminal though.
[01:11] <kingspawn> kakashi: norway
[01:11] <intelikey> TheCreature change the last line form "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy universe"  to  "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ breezy multiverse"   and run  "sudo apt-get update " one more time.  and you should be all set.
[01:12] <disasm> Fnoy: what kind of printer? I've never had a problem with printer support, of course all my printers are hp lasers, so those are easy to work with
[01:12] <kakashi> kingspawn: too cold up there isnt it?
[01:12] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Do they want multiverse and not universe?
[01:12] <Fnoy> canon smartbase mpc190
[01:12] <intelikey> both
[01:12] <kingspawn> kakashi: hehe, getting better now, but still a bit chilly :)
[01:12] <Fnoy> its a printer scanner etc
[01:12] <jeux23> hola
[01:12] <disasm> Fnoy: hp, lexmark, dell, ???
[01:13] <obscurite> anto9us - we once had an outside vendor do a load test on the servers, and the cpu never went above 15% - that's running mod_perl authentication, mod_rewrite rules, reverse proxy and the web servers were 4 pIII 600's
[01:13] <Fnoy> canon
[01:13] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Is it on a different line?  Because what you just said would delete uni.
[01:13] <obscurite> anto9us - it was pretty funny that they couldn't make a dent ;)
[01:13] <kakashi> kingspawn: weve got about 15 degrees in the afternoon down here in the czech republic
[01:13] <sval> Fnoy, mpc190 is not present on www.linuxprinting.org, this is bad news
[01:13] <anto9us> obscurite, cpy is least of worries there, I would say
[01:13] <intelikey> tonyyarusso he has duplicate uni's
[01:13] <Fnoy> i kow
[01:13] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Ah, okay.  Just checking.
[01:13] <TheCreature> intelikey, Ok. I'll tray that. Thanks :)
[01:13] <kingspawn> kakashi: oh, your in czech? nice. i am going to prague in summer/autumn
[01:14] <Fnoy> man canon has the worst slogan "with canon you can" bullshit
[01:14] <anto9us> obscurite, fast raid0 and lots of memory
[01:14] <obscurite> anto9us - true, though nothing bad happened aside from that
[01:14] <sfar> i am drinking urquell atm :)
[01:14] <obscurite> anyone using ubuntu on a 4way or greater box?
[01:14] <kingspawn> sfar: !
[01:14] <kingspawn> sfar: anything related to alcohol makes me intuitively like you (even when im sober)
[01:14] <tonyyarusso> Fnoy: Careful with the language.
[01:14] <yanis> where can I find my ubuntu's kernel sources?
[01:14] <sfar> \o/
[01:14] <sfar> lets make love
[01:14] <disasm> Fnoy: model?
[01:14] <intelikey> TheCreature for some reason apt doesn't like duplicate lines  duplicate lines  duplicate lines  very much  :)
[01:14] <crimsun> yanis: in the repository. apt-get source linux-source-2.6.12
[01:15] <kingspawn> sfar: right on!
[01:15] <sval> yanis, sudo apt-get install kernel-souce.xxx
[01:15] <anto9us> obscurite, I was runing web databases, when load got too high I seperated the services, to 2 x 2Ghz 1Gb machines with 3 times IDE 7200 Raid0obscurite, when load got too high I seperated the database and web services, to 2 x 2Ghz 1.5Gb machines with 3xIDE 7200rpm Raid0
[01:15] <crimsun> sval: we use linux-source*, not kernel-source*
[01:15] <Fnoy> like i said            Canon Smartbase MPC190
[01:15] <yanis> thanks
[01:15] <anto9us> I must have just lied there somewhere
[01:15] <obscurite> anto9us - this particular system always had db separate from web
[01:16] <TheCreature> intelikey, Oh dear. I think it's giving me the same message: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11717  Are you sure the fact that I configured it to run off-of cd instead of the internet isn't the problem?
[01:16] <sval> criminy, depends of the kernel
[01:16] <kingspawn> crimsun: whats the reason for that?
[01:16] <anto9us> obscurite, what RDBMS is it?
[01:16] <sval> crimsun, depends of the kernel
[01:16] <disasm> Fnoy: i don't see it in linuxprinting.org. you can always try other drivers of similar printers and see if you can get one to work, but I'd say it's not going to work in linux
[01:16] <crimsun> kingspawn: it's more correct to use linux-source, since a kernel is not necessarily just linux
[01:16] <obscurite> anto9us - used to be oracle and mysql, now just mysql
[01:17] <crimsun> sval: no, ubuntu has always used linux-source
[01:17] <anto9us> obscurite, I'm a fan of Postgresql
[01:17] <obscurite> anto9us - yeah me too, though i haven't gotten to use it much
[01:17] <intelikey> TheCreature that looks ok.   you should be able to   "apt-cache search <blah> "    and  install anything you like now.
[01:17] <crimsun> kingspawn: hurd, bsd, mach, etc.
[01:17] <ltR20> hey guys, i'm trying to install the new nvidia drivers but it says x is already running.
[01:17] <kingspawn> crimsun: yes, i see.
[01:17] <Fnoy> god help me it doesnt even work on windows
[01:17] <TheCreature> intelikey, Ok. Thanks again :)
[01:17] <Bambino> How do I make a backup of a file?
[01:17] <intelikey> TheCreature anything else ?
[01:18] <TheCreature> intelikey, Not right now :)
[01:18] <owner> any one finding working with dapper is much slower than breezy?
[01:18] <sval> ltR20, just kill X
[01:18] <intelikey> TheCreature ok good luck with it.
[01:18] <eugman> Where are the website mysql databases stored?
[01:18] <ompaul> owner, no it is faster
[01:18] <disasm> owner: i find it much, much faster, of course I use fluxbox and breezy was ridiculously slow at starting fluxbox
[01:18] <sval> Bambino, cp file file.old ( just a copy )
[01:18] <anto9us> obscurite, I'd say it's well worth the effore feature and performance wise, very good at scaling, concurreny benchmarks leave mysql well behind
[01:18] <obscurite> eugman - depends on your config. sometimes /usr/local/mysq/ sometimes /var/lib/mysql
[01:18] <denis_surfer> hi guys can someone help me with WIFI PCMCIA
[01:19] <ltR20> sval how?
[01:19] <kakashi> kingspawn: yeah ...
[01:19] <intelikey>  you         anyone know howto autologin via xdm ?
[01:19] <kakashi> kingspawn: how long you gonna stay here?
[01:19] <kakashi> kingspawn: im directly from prague
[01:19] <kingspawn> kakashi: its 01:19 here now. trying to get to 04:00 atleast
[01:19] <obscurite> anto9us - I'd probably use postgresql if i were building a large web project now
[01:19] <disasm> owner: may have better luck in #ubuntu+1
[01:19] <owner> disasm, i have fluxbox on breezy and it is pretty fast
[01:19] <sval> ltR20, ctrl-alt F1     /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:19] <kingspawn> kakashi: cool
[01:19] <obscurite> anto9us - when this project was started, mysql was a better choice, arguably
[01:19] <owner> disasm, i am just testing it on a test machine. thanks i am on the channel now
[01:20] <kakashi> kingspawn: also 1:20 here\
[01:20] <anto9us> obscurite, yeah, I'd argue
[01:20] <kakashi> :o)
[01:20] <disasm> owner: it was taking 15 secs for it to startup on breezy, and takes 2 secs on dapper
[01:20] <kingspawn> kakashi: then you have a good idea :)
[01:20] <eugman> Oh good I had mine in var/lib/mysql/ Hey will there be any problems if I just dump my old databses into my new installation? They are from the same version of mysql.
[01:20] <kakashi> kingspawn: any plans what you would like to visit here?
[01:20] <intelikey>          anyone know howto or even if you can autologin via xdm ?
[01:20] <obscurite> eugman - that *should* work
[01:21] <kingspawn> kakashi: no, hm, not exactly. i'd like to see franz kafkas house, and drink dark beer :)
[01:21] <owner> disasm, that is because there was a problem with the precompiled package.I recompiled it with xdm disabled and works fine here
[01:21] <eugman> Or it'
[01:21] <eugman> whoops
[01:21] <intelikey> well i'll ask again in a few hours....
[01:21] <owner> ompaul perhaps because i just upgraded might have better luck by reinstalling from sart
[01:22] <anto9us> obscurite, I think all web projects are potentially large
[01:22] <ompaul> owner, that does not make sense
[01:22] <kakashi> kingspawn: its said you will have big brests if you drink dark beer ...
[01:22] <mike> hi, i am seriously considering installing the dev release of ubuntu. i have the stable version installed now. What can i expect if i do install the dev version? heaps of broken packages?
[01:22] <ompaul> owner, but I am too tired to help you debug it
[01:22] <mikeo1> does xgl work on badger?
[01:22] <mike> ubuntu dapper im talking about
[01:22] <MdSalih3> hello all
[01:22] <ompaul> mikeo1, No it does not
[01:22] <mikeo1> i know it didnt before but does it now?
[01:22] <kingspawn> kakashi: im open to that
[01:22] <anto9us> obscurite, scaling is a problem for tomorrow though, merely be aware it might be an issue and plan accordlingly :)
[01:22] <kingspawn> kakashi: as long as the beer is cheap
[01:22] <mikeo1> there isnt a way to install a newer window manager
[01:23] <MdSalih> I have just installed ubuntu on my laptop - am find the mouse touch pad too sensitive.. how can i adjust this ?
[01:23] <ompaul> mikeo1, a release does not get extras after unless you backport something
[01:23] <obscurite> anto9us - sounds like good advice :)
[01:23] <mikeo1> on badger to get xgl working
[01:23] <owner> ompaul, simply perhaps a script has an upgrade script has a bug or just an old config files causing the problem. Thank you anyway this is just my test machine anyway
[01:23] <mikeo1> can i just upgrade the files that xgl uses to the new oens and leave the rest the same?
[01:23] <disasm> owner: yeah, I did that when I first upgraded to breezy in october, but this time around breezy was only a stepping stone for dist-upgrade to dapper
[01:23] <kakashi> kingspawn: what do you mean with that i have a good idea? you mean what i would recommend to you here?
[01:23] <ompaul> mikeo1, and then who will help you when it falls over - in theory you can I would not like to try it
[01:24] <obscurite> anyone have bridged networking working on a vmware workstation install on ubuntu?
[01:24] <kakashi> kakashi: beer is the cheapest thing in our land ;o)
[01:24] <kingspawn> kakashi: yes
[01:24] <anto9us> obscurite, commitment to long term project has to be an issue there, and be careful, you can be far more committed than all those around you :)
[01:24] <mikeo1> hmmm
[01:24] <mikeo1> maybe i should switch to gentoo
[01:24] <RemyLaptop> morning all!
[01:24] <obscurite> anto9us - story of my life!
[01:24] <kakashi> kingspawn: very hard to say ...
[01:24] <mikeo1> lol
[01:24] <RemyLaptop> anyone gottan a hp ipaq working with ubuntu ?
[01:24] <kingspawn> mikeo1: noone in their right mind switches to gentoo
[01:24] <obscurite> anto9us - I had to fight for 2 years to get these 2 replacement servers
[01:24] <ompaul> mikeo1, ask me how long I am using OSS software :-)
[01:24] <mikeo1> lol
[01:24] <mikeo1> this is for my server tho
[01:24] <mikeo1> and i would just want to run xgl over vnc
[01:24] <kakashi> kingspawn: it depends ... what are you interested in?
[01:24] <anto9us> obscurite, don't fight, break something :)
[01:24] <ompaul> mikeo1, that is just sad
[01:25] <mikeo1> but dont want to upgrade to dapper and have it kill my server
[01:25] <dabaR> ompaul: is that a recursive acronym, Open SOurce Software Software?
[01:25] <kingspawn> kakashi: hm, culture. literature, architecture, nature
[01:25] <obscurite> anto9us - guess what got me the servers finally. things started to break down :P
[01:25] <ompaul> dabaR, :P
[01:25] <mikeo1> vnc works fine with opengl stuff, as long as your connection is fast
[01:25] <ompaul> dabaR, yes :-/
[01:25] <kakashi> kingspawn:  i mean if you want to go sightseeing or if you music or sports ...
[01:26] <kakashi> kingspawn: ah ...
[01:26] <mike> what can i expect if i installed dapper? heaps of broken packages? what about the future?
[01:26] <Genfoo> mike, don't do it
[01:26] <RemyLaptop> anyone gottan a hp ipaq working with ubuntu ?
[01:26] <Genfoo> mike, if it ain't broke don't fix it
[01:26] <mikeo1> yeah i guess ill jsut stick to using xgl on my desktop
[01:26] <anto9us> obscurite, do some web searches on average IT expenditure per employee, irrespective of computer usage, across all business
[01:26] <mikeo1> and live cds
[01:26] <obscurite> if you install dapper, you should in theory be able to move your home dir over to a final dapper install - no?
[01:26] <mike> Genfoo, but i want newer packages
[01:27] <Genfoo> obscurite, #ubuntu+1
[01:27] <kakashi> kingspawn: architecture is everywhere in prague ... very interesting is the prague castle, and the part Mala Strana of prague (just under the castle)
[01:27] <mike> especially lighttpd
[01:27] <MdSalih> whats the default root password for ubuntu ? or how can I set it ?
[01:27] <Gau> ...architecture is everywhere
[01:27] <Genfoo> mike, well things work fine for me except for my printer :'(
[01:27] <mike> MdSalih, sudo passwd
[01:27] <obscurite> Genfoo - i was sort of asking for mike
[01:27] <kingspawn> kakashi: i will visit it :)
[01:27] <Genfoo> :P
[01:27] <anto9us> obscurite, me doing that very thing got both me and my assistant a 3000 pay rise about 3 years ago
[01:27] <kakashi> kingspawn: there are alway some galleries opened in prague co there is no problem to get in a few of them ....
[01:27] <sval> MdSalih, no default passwd ... for setting it just ' sudo passwd ' or ' sudo -s ' to open a root term
[01:27] <kclaf_> hello
[01:28] <Gau> ...I'm suddenly reminded of an interpretive dance I choreographed about architecture.
[01:28] <obscurite> anto9us - i get to work out of my own office separate from my client, so i'm not complaining about work conditions ;)
[01:28] <mike> Y Helo Thar
[01:28] <ipfw> anto9us:  what gave you a huge pay raise ?
[01:28] <mikeo1> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=133772 :p
[01:28] <anto9us> ipfw, letting my employer know they never had it so good
[01:28] <kingspawn> kakashi: looking forward to prague :)
[01:28] <kakashi> kingspawn: perhaps you come here when the programming games are taking place ... very intersting ... visited once ...but its not czech culture but the culture of the C language or others
[01:29] <kakashi> kingspawn: ah ... but be aware of pickpockets!!!
[01:29] <kakashi> kingspawn: living in prague for ten years and never been robbed
[01:29] <kingspawn> kakashi: sounds fun
[01:29] <kclaf_> would an1 know a way to bypass HDD check during ubuntu install ?
[01:29] <mikeo1> think ill installi t on breezy
[01:29] <kclaf_> because i just crashed my laptops HDD, and id like to run an ubuntu from USB drive
[01:29] <mikeo1> looks pretty easy
[01:29] <kclaf_> but when i do the setup, it hangs because it tries to detect the broken HDD
[01:29] <ltR20> http://pastebin.com/647066 <-- why?? i'm trying to install NVIDIA'S new drivers
[01:29] <kakashi> kingspawn: not even in the poor parts of prague ... at night so its really no problem here ...
[01:30] <obscurite> Prague seems like the kind of place you can move to and become a wizard or a potion maker.
[01:30] <kakashi> kingspawn: but perhaps theyll robb me and ill tell you something else tomorrow ;o)
[01:30] <RemyLaptop> anyone gotten a hp ipaq working with ubuntu ?  All I want to do is get files across to it...
[01:30] <anto9us> ltR20, you might need the drivers that match the kernel modules, 1.7660 or somethin as I recall
[01:30] <kingspawn> kakashi: :))
[01:30] <obscurite> But I suppose Prague is much more modern than I imagine.
[01:30] <kclaf_> i browsed the boot parameters, but couldnt find one to disable HDD check
[01:30] <Krhis> I would like to load a filesystem into my RAM. I have 3GB and would like to load a 1GB ext2 just for temp logs and stuff.
[01:30] <kakashi> kingspawn: if you want really some info you cann contact me via<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:30] <Krhis> Any suggestions?
[01:31] <kingspawn> kakashi: maybe i will :) i have saved it
[01:31] <kakashi> kingspawn: i would send you some places that would be nice to visit ... and could send you some electronic guide if you would like to
[01:31] <ltR20> anto9us:http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8756.html
[01:31] <ltR20> not that?
[01:31] <kingspawn> kakashi: thanks
[01:31] <kakashi> kingspawn: ok
[01:32] <kakashi> kingspawn: no problem
[01:32] <kakashi> kingspawn: i had the choice to visit france or norway this year ... i have chosen france?! was it a good choice?
[01:32] <anto9us> ltR20, try earlier drivers
[01:33] <ltR20> i have older drivers, anto9us
[01:33] <arrick> ok guys, I want t strip a dell power supply so al lit runs is 4 hdd's, can someone help me?
[01:33] <ltR20> but the point is they released new drivers and i wan't to install them.
[01:34] <obscurite> arrick - strip it? what od you mean?
[01:34] <PseudoPlacebo> On my powermac, my linux install CD (Ubuntu) get hung up on a happy mac when I boot holding C.
[01:34] <anto9us> ltR20, if you've done any updates on nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-legacy you may need later but earlier than latest
[01:34] <PseudoPlacebo> I've tried Dapper PPC install, and Breezy PPC Live.
[01:34] <kingspawn> kakashi: yes, probably :)
[01:34] <obscurite> PseudoPlacebo - that sticks
[01:34] <arrick> obscurite, It by default runs a whole system, however I am not mounting it on a mb, just 4 hd's, and I dont want it to burn up cause the fan is controlled by the mb
[01:34] <obscurite> stinks too
[01:35] <kingspawn> kakashi: i think norway is best if you have an interest in nature, but france for culture etc.
[01:35] <PseudoPlacebo> I also have no mouse.
[01:35] <anto9us> ltR20, you run dapper?
[01:35] <PseudoPlacebo> And only a keyboard.
[01:35] <cloudnet> how do i play mp3?
[01:35] <ltR20> anto9us, no
[01:35] <PseudoPlacebo> =<
[01:35] <kclaf_> is there a specific ubuntu help channel ?
[01:35] <arrick> !mp3
[01:35] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:35] <cloudnet> thanks
[01:35] <dabaR> kclaf_: you are there. /topic
[01:35] <anto9us> kclaf_, tis is it
[01:35] <kingspawn> arrick: you can do that, but i dont remember how right now
[01:35] <ltR20> Since i installed KDE in ubuntu my gnome install is really strange
[01:35] <kclaf_> k dabaR thanks
[01:35] <ltR20> Can i re-install GNOME
[01:36] <kingspawn> arrick: there are guides, you have to modify the thingy that usually plugs into the mb
[01:36] <arrick> kingspawn, i know, but i cant remember how either
[01:36] <anto9us> ltR20, apt-get install ubuntu-desktop I think will do it
[01:36] <Krhis> ltR20, is there somthing you want to reset?
[01:36] <arrick> you happen to know where some of the guides are kingspawn ?
[01:36] <kclaf_> would an1 be able to help me ? i need to bypass HDD check by Ubuntu's partitioning util
[01:36] <ltR20> Krhis, Yes GNOME.
[01:36] <kclaf_> because my hdd is dead, and id like to install on USB
[01:36] <Krhis> What do you want to reset?
[01:36] <ltR20> Krhis, Some of the things are messed up.
[01:37] <kingspawn> arrick: http://www.procooling.com/index.php?func=articles&disp=52&pg=1
[01:37] <Krhis> Linux != Windows.
[01:37] <arrick> thanks
[01:37] <ltR20> The volume control is bugged out, and the theme too.
[01:37] <kingspawn> arrick: might help. google is always helpful
[01:37] <arrick> thanks kingspawn
[01:37] <Krhis> With Windows you reinstall. With Linux just removing the config folders in your home dir and let it reset.
[01:37] <anto9us> ltR20, set up a new user and see if the login under that user works ok
[01:37] <arrick> I ust got the 8 hdd's hooked into the system kingspawn
[01:38] <RemyLaptop> anyone gotten a hp ipaq working with ubuntu ?  All I want to do is get files across to it...
[01:38] <dabaR> kclaf_: with breezy, 5.10 ubuntu?
[01:38] <kclaf_> yes dabaR
[01:38] <dabaR> kclaf_: I do not know that it can be done. Why not use a Live CD?
[01:38] <kakashi> kingspawn: i have to do some other thing ... if i have the desire of nature ... ill definately visit norway ... have a nice day
[01:39] <kclaf_> because live cd has slower acces times
[01:39] <kingspawn> kakashi: you too
[01:39] <kclaf_> id like a fast system, as it's going to be my main system until new HDD comes back
[01:40] <kakashi> kingspawn: thx
[01:40] <levander> I just ran 'smbpasswd -a' for the first time, but can't find the samba password file on my filesystem. Anyone know where it is?
[01:40] <obscurite> what's the slowest desktop/notebook you run ubuntu on?
[01:40] <obscurite> anyone running on a pI, PII or PIII?
[01:41] <kingspawn> obscurite: i bet it'll run pretty low
[01:41] <kingspawn> obscurite: pII must surely work
[01:41] <levander> obscurite: i run it on a dual PIII 550
[01:41] <ltR20> anto9us, you still there?
[01:41] <obscurite> levander - as a desktop?
[01:41] <levander> obscurite: it's great as a server, acceptable as a desktop, but desktop applications take a loong time to startup
[01:41] <obscurite> levander - ahh thanks
[01:41] <dabaR> kclaf_: I am not aware that that can be done at all, installing to a USB. Google a bit on that.
[01:42] <levander> obscurite: 15 seconds for firefox to startup, after prelinking 11 seconds
[01:42] <levander> obscurite: i don't consider it acceptable for my purposes
[01:42] <obscurite> levander - ouch
[01:42] <ltR20> My GNOME install is acting weird, but on a new user account it works fine again.
[01:42] <ltR20> How do i Reset it on my own account?
[01:42] <levander> obscurite: i do only have 512MB ram, not sure if upping that to 1GB would make a big difference or not
[01:43] <anto9us> ltR20, yep
[01:43] <kbrooks> ltR20: rm -rf ~/.gnome*
[01:43] <kbrooks> and
[01:43] <kbrooks> ltR20: rm -rf ~/.gconf
[01:43] <ltR20> anto9us, it works fine on another account
[01:43] <obscurite> levander - sounds like a disk access issue?
[01:43] <kclaf_> dabar : okey, thanks a lot for your help
[01:43] <kbrooks> or ~/.gconf2
[01:43] <m4rcos> Hello ! can you help me with COMPIZ and GDL ?
[01:43] <_jason> ltR20: I had that problem when I installed kde.  You can try deleting the ~/.gnome* and maybe even ~/.gconf*, but I ended up just moving over to a new account
[01:43] <kbrooks> m4rcos: no.
[01:43] <anto9us> ltR20, you could try replacing some of the gnome settings to try and fix it
[01:43] <kbrooks> !dapper
[01:43] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:43] <VRWarper> m4rcos, try #ubuntu-xgl
[01:43] <ltR20> _jason, same here.
[01:44] <ltR20> I installed KDE and everything messed up.
[01:44] <_jason> ltR20: i promptly deleted kde as well, but that's up to you :)
[01:44] <ltR20> _jason, i deleted KDE.. it's not my cup of tea.
[01:45] <levander> i thought ubuntu had an excellent KDE install?  that's the whole kubuntu thing...
[01:45] <ltR20> _jason, i'm going to try KDE again when KDE4 come sout.
[01:45] <obscurite> The KDE text editors rocks pretty hard (kate)
[01:45] <ltR20> _jason, will my themes get deleted?
[01:45] <obscurite> I find myself using various KDE apps
[01:45] <duelboot> obscurite, and just how dif is it from gedit?
[01:45] <kingspawn> obscurite: emacs...
[01:45] <Krhis> obscurite, vim.
[01:46] <_jason> ltR20: you mean by moving to a new account?
[01:46] <kingspawn> Krhis: emacs..
[01:46] <kingspawn> Krhis: ;)
[01:46] <Krhis> kingspawn, vim XD
[01:46] <ltR20> no, if i delete ~gnome
[01:46] <obscurite> duelboot - it's very graphical, very visual. also has a nice save to ftp feature.
[01:46] <_jason> ltR20: oh, no.  Your themes are in ~/.themes.  You may have to select them again though
[01:46] <obscurite> I generally use VIM, but for the save to FTP alone it's worth using kate sometimes
[01:46] <mike> will XGL/composite handling slow down games?
[01:47] <vge> sudo nano is a second nature now
[01:47] <Krhis> That's just one of the reasons I dislike KDE: It's an all-in-one-plus-a-bag-of-chips.
[01:47] <duelboot> obscurite, guess if i needed to save to ftp, it would matter...gedit does all I need
[01:47] <linuxpoet> Anybody have some experience with difficult sound cards?>
[01:47] <ltR20> okay it's deleted
[01:47] <ltR20> _jason
[01:47] <ltR20> do i reboot?
[01:47] <Krhis> I don't want my text editor to have FTP access....
[01:47] <Beforewisdom> Hirvinen, Ubuntu is so nice I decided to use the system as is, and the defualt choice of software.  Im using a lot of new stuff.   Im using xchat for IRC for the first time.  I guess my question is how do I ignore users in xchat?  Simply doing /ignore obnoxiousUser doesn't work.  I get a message telling me to put in a mask and type.
[01:47] <_jason> ltR20: log out and log back in
[01:47] <carthik> linuxpoet, please just ask the question
[01:48] <Krhis> duelboot, give me them back! :P
[01:48] <duelboot> krhis..uuuhhhhhh, nope
[01:48] <linuxpoet> I have this sound controller
[01:48] <linuxpoet> nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[01:48] <linuxpoet> It doesn't work ;)
[01:48] <linuxpoet> I did a lot of research and it is not supported until 2.6.15
[01:48] <kakashi> kingspawn: boot loader on ubuntu is installed at the end of the install ... so i just took my data and sent it to the notebook and then ill send it back ... but i think that there will be a lot of problems with reseting the system ... doesnt matter ... will mange it per night
[01:48] <linuxpoet> To wit... I upgraded to Dapper
[01:48] <linuxpoet> but still no go
[01:48] <eternaljoy-> hey hey
[01:48] <kingspawn> kakashi: good :)
[01:49] <kingspawn> noone uses vim
[01:49] <kingspawn> its for crazies
[01:49] <eternaljoy-> in firefox, at google.com, how can I clear the google search fields?
[01:49] <Krhis> hehehe
[01:49] <eternaljoy-> anyone know please?
[01:49] <obscurite> vim rules!
[01:49] <LadyNikon> meh
[01:49] <polpak> eternaljoy-, I'm not sure what exactly you mean
[01:49] <Enthusiast78> When is Dapper coming out?!
[01:49] <kingspawn> i've used vim for years, just finally realized there are real editors out there
[01:49] <polpak> !dapper
[01:49] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[01:49] <Krhis> No one uses vim? And where did you ask this question?
[01:49] <ltR20> _jason, you still here?
[01:49] <eternaljoy-> polpak: when I use firefox, at google.com, if I click on the search field, it pops up all my search keywords!?
[01:50] <Enthusiast78> KingBahamut, Which editor do you use now?
[01:50] <ltR20> I did it, but the problem is still here.
[01:50] <duelboot> vim rules?  for a term editor
[01:50] <eternaljoy-> polpak: how can I clear that listing?
[01:50] <carthik> eternaljoy-, CTRL+A and the delete
[01:50] <polpak> eternaljoy-, oh. the saved form info
[01:50] <ltR20> How do i go about moving to a new account now?
[01:50] <Enthusiast78> kingspawn, Which editor do you use now?
[01:50] <sorsis> Enthusiast78: look roadmaps. wiki of www.ubuntu.org is quite good for that kinf of questions.
[01:50] <eternaljoy-> carthik: NO!
[01:50] <kingspawn> Enthusiast78: emacs, of course. it's friggin' fantastic.
[01:50] <Krhis> duelboot, yea, that's the point.
[01:50] <polpak> eternaljoy-, edit->preferences->privacy saved forms
[01:50] <eternaljoy-> carthik: i mean the WHOLE entire search keywords from past
[01:50] <eternaljoy-> polpak: ok thanks
[01:50] <Enthusiast78> kingspawn, I'll try it...
[01:50] <carthik> eternaljoy-, polpak said it
[01:50] <eternaljoy-> polpak: I dont have edit->preferences->privacy saved forms
[01:51] <kingspawn> Enthusiast78: i hope you do. but beware, it takes a lot of practice and some learning before it gets really, really good
[01:51] <linuxpoet> lsmod says: snd                    68576  6 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer
[01:51] <_jason> ltR20: I just created a new one and copied the files I wanted form the old one.  Like docs, some settings.  It might be a little tough to get everything if you don't know what you are looking for.  Maybe you can try deleting ~/.gconf*
[01:51] <Krhis> duelboot, vim is good for sudo. Don't sudo with kate.
[01:51] <eternaljoy-> polpak: I dont have edit->preferences!  im using latest firefox
[01:51] <Enthusiast78> kingspawn, Just like VI. ;)
[01:51] <polpak> eternaljoy-, ......
[01:51] <kingspawn> Enthusiast78: even worse :)
[01:51] <mike> will XGL/composite handling slow down games?
[01:51] <duelboot> krhis, I'm in ubuntu...no worries...I prefer gedit...and use vi / vim as well
[01:51] <polpak> eternaljoy-, I'm pretty sure it's still there
[01:51] <eternaljoy-> polpak: it worked :)
[01:51] <Enthusiast78> sorsis, I guess you mean www.ubuntu.com, but thanks! :)
[01:51] <polpak> mike, supposedly not
[01:52] <eternaljoy-> polpak: found it, you were right, I was blind :)
[01:52] <ltR20> _jason what's the command
[01:52] <Krhis> duelboot, at least you're not using notepad.exe XD
[01:52] <ltR20> rm ?
[01:52] <obscurite> Kate is the most polished graphical editor for linux I've seen aside from the Eclipse IDE and Komodo the Perl editor
[01:52] <duelboot> lol, so true krhis
[01:52] <polpak> eternaljoy-, you can also disable it from saving the form data
[01:52] <eternaljoy-> polpak: it worked :) its all cleaned out now ;)  anything else that is stored elsewhere I need to clear?
[01:52] <linuxpoet> no thoughts?
[01:52] <obscurite> Actually I think they sell SlickEdit for linux too
[01:52] <eternaljoy-> polpak: how?
[01:52] <duelboot> ps what's notepad, krhis?
[01:52] <polpak> eternaljoy-, just uncheck the option for save form data
[01:52] <polpak> eternaljoy-, probably history
[01:52] <eternaljoy-> polpak: ahh easy!  done :)
[01:52] <polpak> eternaljoy-, and possibly cookies
[01:52] <Krhis> I don't know, a rumor I think?
[01:52] <_jason> ltR20: mv ~/.gconf ~/.gconf.backup && mv ~/.gconfd ~/.gconfd.backup
[01:52] <eternaljoy-> polpak: ok
[01:52] <sorsis> Enthusiast78: i'm allways correct. some freeking switches just twist my bits so that messages are corrupted between us.
[01:53] <duelboot> oh yea, the microsloth windoze thingermajigger, eh krhis
[01:53] <polpak> eternaljoy-, depending on how paranoid you want to be =p
[01:53] <Krhis> So true, so true.
[01:53] <eternaljoy-> polpak: if I use the new firefox "Clear Private Data", is that enough?
[01:53] <Enthusiast78> sorsis, I understand you. I suffer from the same evil force...
[01:53] <Krhis> obscurite, sure it's polished, but too much.
[01:53] <eternaljoy-> polpak: :)
[01:53] <kingspawn> eternaljoy-: its never, even enough if you know enough about your system and how stuff works
[01:53] <obscurite> Krhis: it's still pretty lightweight
[01:54] <eternaljoy-> kingspawn: never what?
[01:54] <polpak> eternaljoy-, it's up to you
[01:54] <kingspawn> s/even/ever
[01:54] <jmg> guys is there a daily netinst image?
[01:54] <eternaljoy-> polpak: how can I upgrade Fireofx from 1.5 to 1.5.1?
[01:54] <eternaljoy-> polpak: how can I upgrade Fireofx from 1.5 to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell eternaljoy- about ff1.5
[01:55] <kingspawn> seems like an important upgrade...
[01:55] <kingspawn> worth the time, id say
[01:55] <eternaljoy-> jason: I already got 1.5
[01:55] <dabaR> haha
[01:55] <eternaljoy-> jason: how can I upgrade Fireofx from 1.5 to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:55] <_jason> eternaljoy-: the page explains how to upgrade
[01:55] <polpak> eternaljoy-, no idea.. I'm still happy with 1.0.7
[01:55] <eternaljoy-> _jason: ok thanks
[01:55] <eternaljoy-> polpak: hehe :)
[01:55] <eternaljoy-> _jason: do i need to upgrade from 1.5 to <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:55] <kingspawn> use lynx, its better
[01:56] <_jason> eternaljoy-: well you don't /need/ to do anything, but imo it won't hurt you
[01:56] <eternaljoy-> _jason: and how do I upgrade Thunderbird to latest?
[01:56] <Krhis> obscurite, but still FTP for an editor? Real admins use rsync! (sarcasm).
[01:56] <jdmpike> does anyone know how to run WoW in a window?
[01:57] <Krollian> wudup my ubuntu peeps
[01:57] <Krhis> jdmpike, uhhh.... sure you have the right channel there?
[01:57] <kingspawn> dabaR: thats my man
[01:57] <jdmpike> yeah, I run ubuntu
[01:57] <jdmpike> hehe
[01:57] <Krhis> Ah, ok ok.
[01:57] <_jason> eternaljoy-: don't know, I don't use thunderbird.  If it has its own updater, I guess it would be similar to firefox
[01:57] <dabaR> kingspawn: that's how I surf all my porn...
[01:57] <Krhis> Wine?
[01:57] <jdmpike> yeah
[01:57] <kingspawn> dabaR: haha, thats hacker hardcore :)
[01:57] <eternaljoy-> _jason: ok ty
[01:57] <jdmpike> I just need the options to pass it to tell it to run it in a window
[01:58] <Krhis> It's been so long since I've played WoW. I'm a Rangarok player really.
[01:58] <Krhis> But I can't help you with it.
[01:58] <polpak> jdmpike, well, one option is to tell wine to use a virtual desktop
[01:58] <Krollian> Hey, this here newbie would like to know how to download, install, and change my video driver.  ATI Radeon X800 GDO
[01:58] <Krollian> GTO
[01:58] <jdmpike> ok, I will do that
[01:58] <polpak> jdmpike, I can't recall how to do it though
[01:58] <jdmpike> polpak, you can do it in winecfg
[01:58] <Krhis> Hmmm.... ATI..... >.>
[01:59] <polpak> !tell Krhis about ATI
[01:59] <Krhis> polpak?
[01:59] <juztin> help!  my system tray disappeared!  what do i do ?!?
[01:59] <polpak> Krhis, whoops
[01:59] <Krhis> ^^ It's ok.
[01:59] <polpak> !tell Krollian about ati
[01:59] <Xenguy> juztin: freak out!
[01:59] <Xenguy> ;-)
[01:59] <juztin> Xenguy, check!
[01:59] <Xenguy> heheh
[02:00] <juztin> for real though....it's gone
[02:00] <Krhis> I've got a Nvidia myself.
[02:00] <juztin> so when i minimize to the system tray, i can't see it :(  what do i do?
[02:00] <Xenguy> juztin: I hear it sometimes can happen with gnome
[02:00] <_jason> juztin: I'm afraid you need to reinstall.  Just kidding, right click and add to panel then choose notification area
[02:00] <Krhis> BFG GeForce 6800 GT OC 256MB (over clocked out of the box) if you care to know. XD
[02:00] <sorsis> juztin: would it come back if you wou press ctrl+alt+bacspace and log on again?
[02:00] <Xenguy> juztin: someone must know the command to invoke it
[02:00] <juztin> sorsis, nope
[02:01] <juztin> _jason, that worked...but now it's in the _middle_ of my panel
[02:01] <_jason> juztin: drag it with your middle mouse button
[02:01] <polpak> jdmpike, I believe so yes
[02:01] <Xenguy> juztin: it's not 'docker' is it?
[02:02] <jdmpike> polpak, it is - wow is running in a window now!
[02:02] <polpak> jdmpike, congrats =)
[02:02] <jdmpike> I can't seem to connect to my realm though
[02:02] <jdmpike> ...
[02:02] <juztin> _jason, you rock, thanks.... :D
[02:02] <jdmpike> thanks
[02:02] <juztin> Xenguy, nope, i got it :D
[02:02] <Krhis> Why did I come here again? Oh yea....
[02:02] <Krhis> I would like to load a filesystem into my RAM. I have 3GB and would like to load a 1GB ext2 just for temp logs and stuff.
[02:02] <Xenguy> juztin: K
[02:02] <jdmpike> so - blackbox is like crazy fast!
[02:02] <Krhis> Any suggestions?
[02:02] <cyphase> can you install ubuntu on one machine, then move the hard drive to another machine and boot without problems?
[02:02] <polpak> Krhis, ramdisk?
[02:02] <Krhis> jdmpike, Fluxbox personally.
[02:03] <cyphase> or at a minimum changing the kernel
[02:03] <cyphase> maximum*
[02:03] <cyphase> :P
[02:03] <jdmpike> is flux just as fast?
[02:03] <kingspawn> Krhis: tmpfs
[02:03] <Krhis> polpak, thanks. I'll look into it now.
[02:03] <Krhis> Yay, that's the one kingspawn.
[02:03] <Krhis> Thanks.
[02:03] <kingspawn> :)
[02:05] <jdmpike> man, wow is a hungry SOB
[02:05] <jdmpike> it is eating my 1GB of ram
[02:05] <polpak> jdmpike, yeah..
[02:06] <polpak> jdmpike, most 3d mmo's are pretty huge
[02:06] <kbrooks> can i format a inmemory fs?
[02:07] <kingspawn> kbrooks: tmpfs
[02:07] <Jhair> talking about eating ram...
[02:07] <Jhair> 24867 ?????     16   0 4358m 945m  81m S  0.0 11.9   0:00.62 java
[02:07] <Jhair> :(
[02:07] <kakashi> kingspawn ... im just facing another problem ... when i installed ubuntu i can only see a very disastrous screen after bootup ... any ideas ? ... i better look goooogle
[02:07] <kingspawn> thats what you get for having java on your system
[02:07] <cmmedina> Automatix for ubuntu rulz
[02:07] <polpak> !automatix
[02:07] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, but it's often best to read the documentation.
[02:07] <kingspawn> kakashi: very disastrous? what is that? :)
[02:07] <kbrooks> kingspawn: ?
[02:08] <kbrooks> kingspawn: rephrase
[02:08] <Jhair> man that sucks :)
[02:08] <kbrooks> kingspawn: hoqw do i format itt?
[02:08] <kakashi> kingspawn: very very ...
[02:08] <kbrooks> to e.g. ext2
[02:08] <kingspawn> kbrooks: hm, mkfs.extx?
[02:09] <kingspawn> where x is 2 or 3?
[02:09] <cmmedina> I'm testing that
[02:09] <cmmedina> I hope that work fine
[02:10] <kbrooks> cmmedina: automatix is UNSAFE
[02:10] <kbrooks> cmmedina: use "EasyUbuntu"
[02:10] <VR_> do it by handdd!~
[02:11] <kbrooks> VR_: who says.
[02:11] <cmmedina> ok I'll try it
[02:11] <Krhis> Why not apt it like VR_ said?
[02:11] <VR_> kbrooks: i do
[02:11] <kbrooks> cmmedina: channel: #easyubuntu
[02:11] <cmmedina> I'm a new ubuntu user
[02:11] <VR_> i always feel so dirty when using those automated scripts
[02:11] <Krhis> There are some good tutorials, cmmedina.
[02:11] <Krhis> VR_, same here.
[02:11] <VR_> all you need is the wiki and the forums, maybe
[02:12] <VR_> and you can do it by hand
[02:13] <cmmedina> thanks
[02:13] <VR_> cmmedina: what are you trying to do?
[02:13] <cmmedina> nothing in special
[02:14] <VR_> mhm
[02:14] <intelikey> is it possable to auto login via xdm ?
[02:14] <kingspawn> if youre trying to do nothing, dont use automatix to do nothing
[02:15] <kingspawn> just sit still.
[02:15] <Krhis> intelikey, yes.
[02:15] <cmmedina> only I want to learn about ubuntu, and maybe I will work with some network aplications
[02:15] <nil> hi!
[02:15] <intelikey> Krhis can you tell me howto ?
[02:15] <Krhis> Sure.
[02:15] <VR_> cmmedina: if you wanna learn about it, then don't use automatix or easyubuntu
[02:15] <VR_> cmmedina: you'll learn way more by doing it by yourself
[02:16] <Krhis> System > Login Screen Setup > under the General tab.
[02:16] <Krhis> It's the Automatic Login option.
[02:16] <intelikey> Krhis that doesn't affect xdm
[02:16] <intelikey> only works on gdm
[02:16] <clvn> Can anyone tell me the easy'est way to patch my kernel to > 2.6.14?
[02:16] <Krhis> Oh.... sorry, thought you said gdm.
[02:17] <VR_> x and g practically look the same man
[02:17] <cmmedina> yes, I know that
[02:17] <eternaljoy-> cmmedina: hello
[02:17] <intelikey> Krhis i'd use gdm but i can't spare the 100m+ hd space required....
[02:17] <OrTigaS> hi! my laptop connected to ofc Network adn yesterday my laptop saw other win PC... not it didn't work again? any idea why?
[02:17] <cmmedina> VR_: my English  is bad
[02:17] <nil> grub is f*cked after a partition resizing; to reinstall it, I booted from a live-CD, mounted / and /boot on /mnt, then chrooted to mnt; but then grub-install fails; am I missing something?
[02:17] <VR_> cmmedina: youre doing fine
[02:17] <OrTigaS> now*
[02:18] <Krhis> intelikey, I don't even use X at boot up.
[02:18] <cmmedina> but I know that is the best way to practice and learn
[02:18] <Krhis> No login manager, just CLI then startx to get fluxbox up.
[02:18] <kalthare> Where do I go for Xgl help?
[02:18] <intelikey> Krhis well on this particular application i need autologin because the users passwd is locked.
[02:19] <cmmedina> I need to start newly with linux
[02:19] <Krhis> Ah.
[02:19] <kingspawn> Krhis: why startx when theres emacs?
[02:19] <kingspawn> (im sorry ;)
[02:19] <hyperactivecrond> i have an old dell latitude cp... ubuntu dapper flight 6 wont detect my cdrom drive during install
[02:19] <Krhis> lol, got me there kingspawn! XD
[02:19] <kingspawn> hyperactivecrond: does breezy work?
[02:20] <hyperactivecrond> kingspawn: nfi
[02:20] <intelikey> so anyone else know if it's possable to autologin via XDM ?
[02:20] <Krhis> For a split second there I was like... How the.... before I finished reading the sentance.
[02:20] <cmmedina> when I had my first dist, I worked with Xfree, and now I can see new graphic aplications
[02:20] <Remy> !patch
[02:20] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Remy
[02:20] <hyperactivecrond> !dell latitude cp
[02:20] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, hyperactivecrond
[02:20] <hyperactivecrond> !latitude cp
[02:20] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:20] <cmmedina> Xorg is new for me
[02:20] <Remy> hey guys, as part of an installation I've been told to apply a "patch"  http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/patches/ipaq-0.6-olivier.patch
[02:21] <Remy> anyone know how to do this ?
[02:21] <thoreauputic> intelikey: there are a couple of other *dm s - wdm I think? Don't know if it does autologins
[02:21] <cmmedina> I need to start from 0
[02:21] <TheCreature> If you go to Add Applications and try to add one and get an error that says"Installing this application would mean that something else needs to be removed. Please use the "Advanced" mode to install 'umbrello'." How do you get into the Advanced mode and is it dangerous?
[02:21] <Remy> I've tried running "sudo patch patchfile"
[02:21] <Remy> but that just sits there doing nothing
[02:21] <hyperactivecrond> less fireup and see...
[02:21] <hyperactivecrond> win2k that is
[02:21] <kingspawn> Remy: try smoething along the lines of sudo patch -p1 < patchfile
[02:21] <arrick> hey kingspawn that site you gave me on powersupplys is cool for running them parellel, but now I am looking for a mod to get my other hdd's powered without a mb attached
[02:22] <Remy> kingspawn -p1 being ?
[02:22] <Remy> the file to be patched ?
[02:22] <Stormx2> Playback of .wma's is jerky, what should I do?
[02:22] <kingspawn> Remy: no, patchlevel
[02:22] <hyperactivecrond> Stormx2: dont support wma and its nazi-ish leader/pusher
[02:22] <Remy> k
[02:23] <Stormx2> hyperactivecrond: Tough.
[02:23] <hyperactivecrond> true
[02:23] <kingspawn> Remy: might be p0
[02:23] <hyperactivecrond> lol this thing has win2k on it... lets see...
[02:23] <cmmedina> May somebody tell me some ubuntu advantages ?
[02:23] <obs-afk> Mmm, I found excellent ubuntu-admin food.
[02:23] <Remy> hm, that works better, but I get an error saying cannot find file to patch :P
[02:23] <thoreauputic> cmmedina: we would be flooding the channel :)
[02:24] <hyperactivecrond> thoreauputic: heh
[02:24] <OrTigaS> hi! my laptop connected to ofc Network adn yesterday my laptop saw other win PC... now it didn't work again? any idea why?
[02:24] <kalthare> Remy, you should be in the toplevel directory of the source tree you're patching
[02:24] <kingspawn> Remy: you have to be in the dir where the stuff to patch is
[02:24] <kingspawn> like patching the kernel needs to be in the kernel-dir, etc
[02:24] <Remy> ahk
[02:24] <Remy> so I'll need to recompile it maunally instead of installing from synaptic...
[02:24] <Remy> doh!
[02:24] <Remy> k
[02:25] <Remy> thanks
[02:25] <linuxpoet> Anyone have any luck getting a: 0000:00:10.1 0403: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2) working?
[02:25] <crimsun> linuxpoet: you need current ALSA, or Dapper.
[02:26] <Stormx2> Playback of .wma's is jerky, what should I do?
[02:26] <kingspawn> i'll have me some whiskey
[02:26] <Stormx2> sorry *wmv s
[02:26] <kingspawn> makes it all so much better.
[02:26] <hyperactivecrond> it's a TORiSAN CD-ROM CDR_U200
[02:26] <kingspawn> Stormx2: delete every wmv you can find
[02:26] <hyperactivecrond> old
[02:26] <kingspawn> Stormx2: and never look back. its an evil format.
[02:26] <Stormx2> kingspawn: You sure are funny.
[02:26] <kingspawn> Stormx2: i speak the truth.
[02:26] <hyperactivecrond> stormx2: don't be h8in
[02:26] <kalthare> Any help available for Xgl? It's using 99% to 100% CPU, and I haven't even started compiz yet
[02:26] <Stormx2> kingspawn: pr0n comes in 2 flavours, wma or none.
[02:27] <linuxpoet> crimsun: I am running dapper and 2.6.15
[02:27] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: more detail please - what are you using to play them?
[02:27] <Stormx2> thoreauputic: Totem
[02:27] <kingspawn> Stormx2: you get your pron in audioformat? haha, nice.
[02:27] <hyperactivecrond> any module that would install that one?
[02:27] <carthik> !dapper
[02:27] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[02:27] <Stormx2> thoreauputic: Nothing else works
[02:27] <crimsun> linuxpoet: /j #ubuntu+1
[02:27] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: totem-xine?
[02:27] <kingspawn> Stormx2: first: switch to vlc.
[02:27] <Stormx2> kingspawn:: Thats why i said *wmv
[02:27] <Stormx2> kingspawn: Tried using that. Didn't work
[02:27] <kingspawn> Stormx2: the wildcard would be wm*
[02:27] <carthik> kalthare, go to #ubuntu+1 please
[02:27] <kingspawn> Stormx2: got the right codecs?
[02:27] <Stormx2> Think so
[02:27] <kalthare> carthik, thanks
[02:27] <linuxpoet> crimson I assume you are saying ask over there?
[02:28] <thoreauputic> !w32codecs
[02:28] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:28] <kingspawn> yeah
[02:28] <kingspawn> follow thoreauputics advice
[02:28] <carthik> linuxpoet, yes, that is a dapper issue, innit?
[02:28] <TheCreature> If you go to Add Applications and try to add one and get an error that says"Installing this application would mean that something else needs to be removed. Please use the "Advanced" mode to install 'umbrello'."  I am in the room now
[02:28] <jadaz87> hello everyone i had wanted to come out with my own ubuntu distrobution like they have ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu i was wondering where can i start?
[02:29] <TheCreature> kingspawn, how do I find out what it wants to remove?
[02:29] <Stormx2> kingspawn: VLC only works when i right click the file > open with VLC. And it just closes at random points.
[02:29] <arrick> hey guys, I cant remember if the fan on the power supply is suposed to spin when it isnt hooked to a MB, does anybody know the answer to this question?
[02:29] <hyperactivecrond> jadaz: /j #ubuntu-devel
[02:29] <arrick> been a long time since i messed with psu
[02:29] <kingspawn> Stormx2: right click -> properties
[02:29] <Puter> If I wanted UBUNTU to run a script at startup where would I start looking ?
[02:29] <kingspawn> Stormx2: and then tell it to autoplay with vlc
[02:29] <hyperactivecrond> Puter: /etc/init.d
[02:29] <kingspawn> arrick: its a dangerous game :)
[02:29] <arrick> I know
[02:29] <Puter> Thanks hyper
[02:30] <hyperactivecrond> bill's in the mail
[02:30] <carthik> TheCreature, go to "advanced mode" which is just synaptic. Before the thing gets installed, review the changes and if you dont like it dont let it install. You can also ask here if you are unclear then.
[02:30] <arrick> I've messed with them before, just been a while
[02:30] <kingspawn> arrick: yeah, i remember having two psu's going for a while, cant remember what for, though.. :)
[02:30] <obscurite> arrick - next, you need to rig up a smoke detector so when it catches fire it shuts down
[02:30] <Stormx2> kingspawn: Closes at random points.
[02:31] <intelikey> puter man init
[02:31] <kingspawn> Stormx2: thats weird indeed.
[02:31] <Firebird8> is there any movie making app for linux?
[02:31] <kingspawn> Stormx2: try installing all the codecs you can find in synaptic
[02:31] <arrick> I need the power for my other 4 drives, cause i have a 150w psu in the box, and another one outside the box
[02:31] <kingspawn> Stormx2: and if it works, start backtracking one by one, to remove the excess stuff
[02:31] <CraiZE> hi
[02:31] <kingspawn> arrick: seems easier to just upgrade to a more powerful one ;)
[02:32] <arrick> not without money
[02:32] <Puter> Will do Intel
[02:32] <kingspawn> point
[02:32] <obscurite> arrick - http://www.overclock.net/faqs/15751-info-can-i-use-two-power.html
[02:32] <arrick> just picked up a job this last month and gotta catch the bils up
[02:33] <TheCreature> carthik, so synaptic manager is the advanced mode of add programs?
[02:33] <carthik> TheCreature, yes it is so - find out by clicking that advanced mode button :)
[02:34] <carthik> TheCreature, you cannot break much if you read the messages before clicking buttons :)
[02:34] <kingspawn> aww, python is so cool
[02:34] <Mitja> What is the supplement for insserv?
[02:34] <kingspawn> arrick: hehe, whatcha doin?
[02:34] <kingspawn> arrick: jobwise, that is
[02:34] <carthik> Mitja, care to explain a bit more detail?
[02:35] <Drac[Server] > Is it possible to install the PPC version of Ubuntu onto a harddrive in a PC, and just not run it? I need a way to put it on the harddrive, and I don't have a modern Mac with which to do it - just an old one that won't run the CD properly.
[02:35] <arrick> i have 8 hd's hooked to my server, however, the internal psu is not powerful enough for the unit and the extra fans and hd's
[02:35] <TheCreature> carthik, where's the advanced mode button ><  /me blind
[02:35] <obscurite> arrick - let me know if that link works so I can feel the karma ;)
[02:35] <arrick> I want to power the hd's outside the box
[02:36] <arrick> ok thanks obscurite
[02:36] <io_> How can I upgrade to the newest gnome?
[02:36] <arrick> kingspawn, oh you mean jobwise, running a large linux network of 7000 computers at a school district
[02:36] <Krhis> io_, Ubuntu 6.04 will have the newest Gnome.
[02:36] <kingspawn> arrick: heck, that aint bad :)
[02:36] <arrick> just new to linux
[02:37] <kingspawn> arrick: id shy away from that like i would the plague
[02:37] <arrick> 10 years experience with m$ crap
[02:37] <Krhis> Ubuntu is released according to Gnome's releases.
[02:37] <arrick> new learning curve
[02:37] <kingspawn> yeah
[02:37] <Krhis> arrick, ah, that's ok. Welcome.
[02:37] <Krhis> We all went through that learning curve.
[02:38] <arrick> yeah my first order was to go from suse10 to ubuntu on the whole dang system
[02:38] <arrick> cause you cant get help with suse10 anywhere
[02:38] <kingspawn> Krhis: we all went through the 7000+ comp learning curve? :)
[02:38] <regulate> i just installed ubuntu and i'm a long time debian user and I like the fact there is 6 month updates
[02:38] <_Dez> i need help with my rt2500 wifi card
[02:38] <intelikey> lol.... wdm is kinda KUTE !  :)
[02:38] <fatehaze> Here's an odd question - can I use my Sony Ericson GC89 pc card to connect an ubuntu box to the internet through a cell phone network (GPRS/EDGE)?
[02:38] <intelikey> but i don't think it supports auto login user....
[02:38] <arrick> !wireless
[02:38] <ubotu> wireless is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[02:39] <arrick> evening intelikey
[02:39] <Krhis> kingspawn, you mean you're was only 7000? XD
[02:39] <intelikey> arrick
[02:39] <arrick> yeah
[02:39] <Krhis> yours*
[02:39] <_Dez> i have installed ubuntu server and i have a supported wifi card i get device not found
[02:39] <_Dez> its in lspci
[02:40] <mlaci> please somebody help me! i've just installed dapper drake and the installer didn't ask for any root passwords and now i can't login. what's the default password?
[02:40] <kingspawn> Krhis: haha
[02:40] <arrick> _Dez, only one eth device is active at a time
[02:40] <fatehaze> Is my question even possible on linux, in general terms?  Connecting to the internet on a cell phone network?
[02:40] <intelikey> _Dez best i can do for you is point you to the wiki.
[02:40] <intelikey> !wifi
[02:40] <ubotu> somebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:40] <nalioth> mlaci: 1: there is no root password 2: join #ubuntu+1 for discussion of dapper
[02:40] <ltR20> how do i open up a file browser in root
[02:40] <Remy> hey guys, I'm having an issue with Makefile
[02:41] <Remy> how do I tell it to run make in the current directoy ?>
[02:41] <Remy> *directory?
[02:41] <intelikey> ltR20 gksudo nautilus
[02:41] <_Dez> when i do ifconfig only lo shows up
[02:41] <arrick> Remy, you haev to be in the directoyr then type make
[02:41] <Remy> whenever I run 'make' I get this error:  make: *** No rule to make target `/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-386/build/drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.h', needed by `usb-serial.h'.  Stop.
[02:41] <Remy> no matter what directory I'm in
[02:41] <arrick> _Dez, iwconfig for wireless
[02:41] <Remy> I always get that error
[02:41] <kingspawn> fatehaze: of course it is possible.
[02:41] <Remy> whether there is a Makefile in the directory or not !
[02:41] <kingspawn> fatehaze: with the right driver, you can do anything on linux
[02:42] <intelikey> Remy is there a Makefile in the pwd ?
[02:42] <_Dez> arrick my i privmsg you?
[02:42] <Remy> pwd ?
[02:42] <hyperactivecrond> Remy: Print Working Directory
[02:42] <intelikey> remy do you have b-e installed ?
[02:42] <arrick> _Dez, just join #arrick
[02:42] <hyperactivecrond> == directory
[02:42] <intelikey> !b-e
[02:42] <ubotu> well, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[02:42] <fatehaze> kingspawn: thanks, here's hoping
[02:42] <Remy> intelikey yes there is
[02:42] <Remy> (a makefile)
[02:42] <Remy> I don't know about b-e... what is that ?
[02:42] <kingspawn> fatehaze: heh, but that takes the skill to code the drivers yourself if they dont exist :)
[02:43] <intelikey> hyperactivecrond pwd != print....  present working dir
[02:43] <Remy> intelikey, but even if there isn't a makefile I still get the same error
[02:43] <TheCreature> when I try to install a package, I get messages saying that it's got unresolved dependancies. When I go to install the thing that it depends on, I get the following msg: kdelibs4c2-dbg:
[02:43] <TheCreature>  Depends: kdelibs4c2 (=4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable Any way to fix that?
[02:43] <fatehaze> kingspawn: I can probably guess that there is no linux support on those Sony Ericsson drivers, right?  :P
[02:43] <hyperactivecrond> ah shell variable $PWD is that
[02:43] <intelikey> Remy b-e ?
[02:43] <Remy> intelikey, what is b-e ?
[02:43] <hyperactivecrond> but iirc program pwd = print working dir
[02:44] <Remy> !b-e
[02:44] <ubotu> I heard b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[02:44] <obscurite> One of my mdadm raid1 drives automatically rebuilts when i remove it and re-attach it. The other one doesn't - after i remove it, it doesn't get recognized again. Any ideas?
[02:44] <Remy> intelikey I do have b-e
[02:44] <intelikey> hyperactivecrond yes... but asking about files in the pwd would clearify which i meant, would it not ?
[02:44] <kingspawn> fatehaze: cant tell you, but doesnt seem likely :)
[02:45] <Remy> the question is, why would running make always give me the same error, irrespective of whether there is a Makefile in the current directory or not !?
[02:46] <_jason> !b-e =~ s/apt-get/aptitude/
[02:46] <ubotu> _jason: OK
[02:46] <intelikey> Remy if you have b-e installed, any you said you do.  and there is a makefile in the pwd, and you said there is.  then something must have went wrong with the .configure   the makefile has errors.
[02:46] <kingspawn> Remy: whats the error? i havent been following conv.
[02:46] <Remy> $ make
[02:46] <Remy> make: *** No rule to make target `/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-386/build/drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.h', needed by `usb-serial.h'.  Stop.
[02:46] <intelikey> err ./configure ^
[02:46] <Remy> I can run make ANYWHERE, and I get that same message
[02:46] <Remy> doesn't matter if there is a makefile there or not...
[02:47] <kingspawn> Remy: what if you run "make clean" anywhere? does it actually do anything?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> Remy: you do know about ./configure, right?
[02:47] <Remy> hm hang on sec...
[02:47] <Remy> yeah
[02:47] <kingspawn> this seems to be unrelated to configure and makefiles, really
[02:48] <kingspawn> since it is looking around in kernel trees
[02:48] <thoreauputic> !info kernel-package
[02:48] <ubotu> kernel-package: (A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.), section misc, is optional. Version: 9.001ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 352 kB, Installed size: 1316 kB
[02:48] <thoreauputic> ^^^
[02:48] <Remy> ok, I take it back... it's only happening in that directory, so it must be THAT particular makefile...
[02:48] <Remy> http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/usbpatch.php#compile
[02:48] <Remy> The makefile was downloaded from there
[02:49] <intelikey> kingspawn i don't know why it would look in /lib/modules/2.6.15-20-386/build/drivers/usb/serial/ unless the makefile sent it there.... ?
[02:49] <eugman> I've got a 13 and a half hour long mp3. How can I break it into cd sized chunks?
[02:50] <Remy> http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/usbpatch.php#compile  <-- what does point 1 there mean ?
[02:50] <kingspawn> intelikey: hm, no, you've got a valid point
[02:50] <Remy> What kernel source tree would they be talking about ?
[02:50] <Remy> The source for my linux, or for the program I'm trying to compile ?
[02:50] <kingspawn> Remy: what are you trying to do?
[02:50] <kingspawn> Remy: im starting to feel intelikey on this one
[02:51] <Remy> kingspawn trying to syncronise an IPAQ h5550 with ubuntu...
[02:51] <Remy> I need to apply a patch
[02:51] <Kusza_135> hi
[02:51] <Remy> an recompile it manually...
[02:51] <Remy> *and
[02:51] <Kusza_135> I have a small
[02:51] <Kusza_135> problem
[02:51] <sonic> Does anyone know how i can easily remove an install of Ubuntu that I made by mistake?
[02:51] <Xenguy> sonic: there's no such thing
[02:52] <intelikey> sonic format the partition ?
[02:52] <sonic> when I boot now, I get a choice of ubuntu, ubuntu failsafe, ubuntu, ubuntu failsafe
[02:52] <Kusza_135> I can't install desktop themes
[02:52] <TheCreature> when I try to install a package, I get messages saying that it's got unresolved dependancies. When I go to install the thing that it depends on, I get the following msg: kdelibs4c2-dbg: Depends: kdelibs4c2 (=4:3.4.3-0ubuntu1) but it is not installable Any way to fix that?
[02:52] <kingspawn> Remy: aha. well, where did you get the patch, whats its name, have you applied it correctly, have you done "man patch" have you read up on how the ipaq integrates with linux?
[02:52] <Kusza_135> whatshould i do ??
[02:52] <sonic> its like I installed Ubuntu twice by mistake or something
[02:52] <sonic> or maybe an updates went wrong
[02:52] <intelikey> sonic wait.  you only want to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:52] <_jason> TheCreature: can you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please and give us a link?
[02:53] <Xenguy> sonic: nah, it wasn't a mistake; it was fate =)
[02:53] <sonic> lol
[02:53] <Remy> kingspawn yes to most of the above... That site where I d/l that man file from has fairly comprehensive details on how to do it, unfortunately they aren't comprehensinve enough for a noobie like myself, so I'm just kinda blundering along :)
[02:53] <obscurite> Xenguy - can Xen run as a client yet? or does it still take over your system?
[02:53] <Remy> atm I'm doing this:  http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/tarballs.php
[02:53] <sonic> intelikey: how do I edit the file?
[02:54] <sonic> or rather, how would I open it through the terminal
[02:54] <MdSalih> is there anything like daemon tools for ubuntu ?
[02:54] <intelikey> sonic gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.lis
[02:54] <Remy> I'm assuming that I should apply the patch somewhere in the middle of that process
[02:54] <kingspawn> Remy: go through that stuff that you linked here step by step
[02:54] <_jason> MdSalih: what do they do?
[02:54] <Xenguy> obscurite: don't be fooled by my nick :-) But I think Xen is 'pre-kernel' in a sense, isn't it?
[02:54] <Xenguy> obscurite: BTW I hide the nick first :-)
[02:54] <TheCreature> _jason, Sure http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11719
[02:54] <Xenguy> s/hide/had
[02:54] <intelikey> sonic that assumes default ubuntu
[02:55] <obscurite> Xenguy - ahh, sorry. ;) yeah, it's a kernel replacement, from what I understand
[02:55] <Trae> !flight
[02:55] <ubotu> well, flight is http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[02:55] <sonic> intelikey:  that command opens up a blank text document
[02:55] <intelikey> sonic  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst     if you did a server install
[02:55] <mystic_portal> !xen
[02:55] <ubotu> [xen]  a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/ .
[02:55] <intelikey> ?
[02:55] <mystic_portal> !sudo
[02:55] <dabaR> _jason:
[02:55] <dabaR> _jason:  20:09 < ubotu> well, flight is http://www.ubuntu.com/testing
[02:55] <dabaR> 20:09 < sonic> intelikey:  that command opens up a blank text document
[02:55] <dabaR> 20:09 < intelikey> sonic  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.lst     if you did a
[02:55] <ubotu> sudo is, like, totally, a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[02:55] <Remy> kingspawn , I am... but what I don't understand is where/when do I apply this patch:  http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/usb_linux.php (see under special information for h5550)
[02:55] <dabaR>                    sorry.
[02:55] <Xenguy> obscurite: it's the lowest layer, and everything stalls on top (I think :P )
[02:55] <Puter> So to get UBUNTU to enable port forwarding at bootup I would create a script (echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward) into /etc/rc1.d ?
[02:55] <dabaR> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/11487
[02:55] <eugman> Anyone know how to split up a mp3?
[02:55] <sonic> is it supposed to be blank?
[02:55] <obscurite> Xenguy - I just wish it could run in a vmware-like way, so I don't have to have a funky kernel and all that
[02:56] <Xenguy> sonic: split ?
[02:56] <obscurite> Xenguy - vmware workstation that is. ;)
[02:56] <sonic> xenguy:  I dont quite understand?
[02:56] <Xenguy> obscurite: it doesn't run d0ze either yet, does it?
[02:56] <norman> Hi I've never been on linux before! Any tips to play dvd and avi dvix etc
[02:56] <OrTigaS> hi! my laptop connected to ofc Network and yesterday my laptop saw other win PC... now it didn't work again? any idea why?
[02:56] <obscurite> Xenguy - not last i checked which was a while back
[02:56] <mystic_portal> !dvd
[02:56] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu. You may need libdvdcss2, which is available via http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages (section extras)
[02:56] <mystic_portal> help?
[02:56] <Puter> So to get UBUNTU to enable port forwarding at bootup I would create a script (echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward) into /etc/rc1.d ?
[02:56] <intelikey> sonic my bad,  pasted something else.... sorry.    gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:57] <_jason> TheCreature: issue the following command to edit your sources, gksudo 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'              delete the last 2 nonempty lines in your sources.list and then remove the # from the beginning of all of the lines that start with # (with the exception of backports, those should stay commented imo)
[02:57] <arrick> where is the wireless conf located on the ubuntu terminals?
[02:57] <Firebird8> anyone know of a movie making app for linux????
[02:57] <dabaR> _jason: just make him paste what is on that pastebin, that is a good sources setup.
[02:57] <_jason> dabaR: is that for ... was about to ask you that :)
[02:57] <Remy> any ideas kingspawn ?
[02:57] <Xenguy> sonic: neither do I ATM :-)
[02:58] <intelikey> arrick /etc  is the base dir for "almost" all linux configs.