[15:49] <cinex> nandor: did you try the switch off button ?
[15:49] <zbo09> ok I am in work and behind a firewall
[15:49] <Guest10998> please speak spanish+
[15:49] <zilkomaa> I was playing music and suddenly my sound started stutter?
[15:49] <cinex> nandor: maybe there is a package u need
[15:49] <usser> dnivra, no problem
[15:49] <zbo09> is there anyway I can get it to work on port 80 or a port which i know is open
[15:49] <MenZa> Guest10998: This channel is English only.
[15:49] <chiiiiiz> BluesKaj: not yet, I am a newbie in video file treatment, I have found an example of mencoder command line (that does not work, but that is another topic)... any help welcome
[15:49] <Guest10998> ola
[15:49] <Guest10998> ola
[15:49] <MenZa> Guest10998: For Spanish, please see #ubuntu-es
[15:50] <BluesKaj> !ffmpeg | chiiiiiz
[15:50] <Ubershutze> Hey, i installed Ubuntu on a 4GiB flash drive but cant have it save what i do during the session. Any ideas why ?
[15:50] <ouyes> ikonia, cinex so just to sudo apt-get source glibc? then how to see the code ? e.g. fabs?
[15:50] <usser> chiiiiiz, post the command line, also ffmpeg
[15:50] <nandor> cinex i think my dad, or some of my family :D
[15:50] <trism> ouyes: without the sudo
[15:50] <usser> chiiiiiz, i prefer ffmpeg to mencoder
[15:50] <BluesKaj> !info ffmpeg | chiiiiiz
[15:50] <nandor> but they are complett noobs for ubuntu :D
[15:50] <davidoe> having difficulty installing a thing that i want. configure: error: No 32-bit datatype found what does this mean? can i install the 32-bit datatype somehow?
[15:50] <trism> ouyes: and I believe you want libc6
[15:50] <chiiiiiz> BluesKaj: I have ffmpeg installed
[15:51] <zilkomaa> Trying if restarts helps..
[15:51] <chiiiiiz> mencoder -ovc lavc -oac lavc -lavcopts acodec=mp3:abitrate=192:vcodec=mpeg4:vbitrate=1500:vhq -ffourcc DX50  "$file" -o ${file%%wmv}avi
[15:51] <trism> ouyes: it downloads and unpacks the code in the current directory
[15:51] <ouyes> trism, i am in xubuntu 9.10 32-bit
[15:51] <maple1> I just smoked a huge joint and am having trouble resizing my NTFS partition to make room for ubuntu
[15:51] <maple1> can someone help me?
[15:51] <ikonia> ouyes: looks good
[15:51] <cinex> maple1: lol
[15:51] <ouyes> E: Unable to find a source package for glibc
[15:52] <cinex> maple1: defrag it first eh
[15:52] <BluesKaj> yes chiiiiiz , most ppl do , but you can use it decode or re-encode windows media files to mpeg without a lot of lossess
[15:52] <chiiiiiz> but when I use this command, it does work for 10 mn (360 Mb files) and in the end, it says that the acodec=mp3:abitrate=192: file not found"
[15:52] <trism> ouyes: because it is called libc6
[15:52] <usser> maple1, "i just smoked a huge joint" there's your problem
[15:52] <donwINO> does OOo 3.2 work well on Ubuntu?
[15:52] <ddavids> i use winff but i when i try to convert avi to mp4, it just keeps going on forever. what can i try?
[15:52] <cinex> donwINO: yes
[15:52] <demonic> USB Startup Dis Creator give me a checksum don't match error?????????
[15:52] <blakkheim> ddavids: you can try answering the question i asked instead of repeating your question
[15:52] <Avenegra> i suggest u smoke another and wipe ntfs altogheter
[15:53] <chiiiiiz> BluesKaj: do you have an equivalent command line for ffmpeg? with a very good video and audio quality?
[15:53] <pog> is it possible to record television *with* the subtiles, which are available by some TV-Channels. (I'm interested because I know somebody who is deaf and the new video-recorder doesn't seem to record these subtiles. May be somebody can give me a hint, for further research.
[15:53] <ouyes> trism, then how to use it? take an example , i want to see the code for function sqrt?
[15:53] <donwINO> cinex, should I just get the DEB or wait for it to the repos?
[15:53] <dainis> clear
[15:53] <cinex> chiiiiiz: there are frontends to mencoder, quite a few.
[15:53] <Slart> ouyes: you didn't see my pastebin link?
[15:53] <chiiiiiz> and how can I insert a '.' before the last 3 letters of my filenames, since I have removed all '.'
[15:53] <cinex> donwINO: you could get the deb. you could always remove the deb
[15:53] <ddavids> im sorry but i dont seem to understand ur question, winff just start at the command line when i press convert and it just keeps dropping lines of codes and never stops...
[15:54] <trism> ouyes: it downloads all the code for the c library and unpacks it in the current directory, if you want to see the code for any specific function, you will need to grep for it
[15:54] <trism> ouyes: or use an editor with ctags support
[15:54] <xfact> My desktop icons are really wide and I want to make those little.. anybody can answer 'How to shorten the desktop icons'?
[15:54] <Slart> ouyes:  http://pastebin.com/f3a1418d1
[15:54] <chiiiiiz> cinex: i tried winff... but something was not OK, it did not start the transcode
[15:54] <ouyes> TriMe, thanks
[15:54] <donwINO> cinex, any ideas on when it will go live on the repos?
[15:54] <demonic> How do you fix the checksums does not match error?
[15:54] <Slart> demonic: where do you get this?
[15:55] <cinex> pog: I know that mplayer has a -dump switch to dump the sounds and videos into afile
[15:55] <ouyes> Slart, how you get that?
[15:55] <ddavids> ffmpeg is also installed...
[15:55] <cinex> -dumpsound -dumpvideo
[15:55] <Antaine> Total newbie any ideas of how to convert flv to mp3 convertor
[15:55] <Slart> ouyes: it's from the source of libc6.1
[15:55] <cinex> pog: konquror man:mplayer
[15:55] <chiiiiiz> cinex: ?????
[15:55] <cinex> pog: konqueror man:mplayer
[15:55] <xfact> How to shorten the desktop icons?
[15:55] <blakkheim> Antaine: ffmpeg
[15:55] <cinex> pog: search for -dump and see if its what u want
[15:56] <pog> thanks cinex I'll have a look
[15:56] <Slart> ouyes: cd to a folder where you can put the source.. I use ~/sources .. then "sudo apt-get source libc6.1"
[15:56] <blakkheim> xfact: right click, resize
[15:56] <trism> don't sudo apt-get source, it serves no purpose
[15:56] <trism> just apt-get source
[15:56] <cinex> donwINO: no, none
[15:56] <twig11> I have a problem with Empathy: when I launch it, it takes a long time, maybe a minute or two, to connect, and only after displaying an error first. I know it's not my connection because Pidgin connects almost instantly. Is this a problem you've heard of, or can you suggest a cause or a fix?
[15:56] <Antaine> thanks
[15:57] <cinex> chiiiiiz: winff is only one gui
[15:57] <Slart> ouyes: then you go to the .. sysdeps folder. then ieee754 and there you have lots of different folder for diffferent architectures
[15:57] <xfact> blakkheim,  but I how to do it one by one? Now way to short all together?
[15:57] <cinex> chiiiiiz: gui/frontend
[15:57] <blakkheim> xfact: i think you need to do it one by one
[15:57] <chiiiiiz> cinex: OK... whta would you advise?
[15:57] <cinex> chiiiiiz: google
[15:57] <Ubershutze> Im a newb here, any idea how can i make my live session save between reboots ? I installed it on a 4GiB flash drive ...
[15:58] <chiiiiiz> cinex: of course
[15:58] <Slart> ouyes: that pastebin is from ./eglibc-2.10.1/sysdeps/ieee754/dbl-64/e_sqrt.c
[15:58] <cinex> Ubershutze: did you install it to a memory stick or put the livecd on a memory stick?
[15:58]  * xfact 's keyboard is again making him embarrassed! Weird writings :(
[15:58] <ouyes> trism, Slart cinex  i appreciate, i am trying to learn c programming, so need a good and detailed reference of the glibc
[15:59] <Antaine> I know this is not a question but I was a die hard Windows system engineer and now have totally changed over to Ubuntu love it  and would not go back now does anyone know if there are any LUG's near Norwich as I checked there site and there did not appear to be any
[15:59] <Ubershutze> cinex: I installed it from a live cd ISO into the flash drive
[15:59] <ouyes> Slart, you give a very detailed information, thanks again
[15:59] <theadmin> ouyes: Go to #c for help on the C language
[15:59] <cinex> Antaine: there will be a lug website to check
[15:59] <harold> hi
[15:59] <Slart> ouyes: you're welcome
[15:59] <trism> ouyes: have fun
[15:59] <cinex> Ubershutze: have you got a little switch on the memory drive to make it readonly?
[15:59] <ouyes> theadmin, yes, i wll
[15:59] <twig11> When I launch Empathy, it takes a long time, maybe a minute or two, to connect, and only after displaying an error first. I know it's not my connection because Pidgin connects almost instantly. Also, it doesn't seem to recognize when I receive a PM. Do you have any idea what could be causing this behavior?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> chiiiiiz, http://www.ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-doc.html
[16:00] <Ubershutze> cinex: I used USB creator to do it
[16:00] <MenZa> Antaine: Have a look in #ubuntu-uk :)
[16:00] <Antaine> I checked them and the nearest seemed to be Cambridge
[16:00] <cinex> yeah but Ubershutze some memory sticks have a 'lock' so u cant delete stuff on them
[16:00] <Ubershutze> cinex: No, its a Transcend flash drive. No switches
[16:00] <theadmin> twig11: Empathy is not very... good... yet, I'd stick to Pidgin. As for connection, it might be a Telepathy issue
[16:00] <metricpiano> when I attempt to su - i cannot authenticate... I've tried the sudo password for my user and the system password... I can't remember setting up or entering any other password, though I've tried a few and nothing authenticates.
[16:00] <blakkheim> metricpiano: prefix it with sudo
[16:01] <cinex> Ubershutze: and u installed it through the livecd's installer?
[16:01] <harold> does anyone have a working yahoo messenger for ubuntu9.10 with audio and video??
[16:01] <harold> does anyone have a working yahoo messenger for ubuntu9.10 with audio and video??
[16:01] <metricpiano> blakkheim:  oh that's obvious :D duh!  Thanks
[16:01] <MenZa> Please don't spam, harold.
[16:01] <Myrtti> metricpiano: su is not supposed to work at all, you're supoosed to use sudo.
[16:02] <cinex> sudo su - :P
[16:02] <theadmin> MenZa: This happens if connection is laggy sometimes...
[16:02] <davidoe> error: No 32-bit datatype found. Could some one tell me what that means? plz. Can i change datatype in ubuntu?
[16:02] <harold> menza, sorry for the double post..
[16:02] <Ubershutze> cinex: No, i used USB Creator to install it. It asked me to point to the live cd ISO and it did the rest
[16:02] <Myrtti> cinex: I wouldn't recommend that to anyone when there's sudo -i and other options available
[16:02] <nandor> cinex - I have found :D Indicator applet :D lol
[16:02] <nandor> thanks :) bb
[16:02] <cinex> Ubershutze: you didn't set it to be 'persistent' there is a file u can edit, i think
[16:02] <sipior> davidoe: what's the context of that error?
[16:02] <ksbalaji> !openoffice
[16:02] <cinex> Ubershutze: I would do it again, making sure you set it to persitent
[16:02] <Myrtti> metricpiano: so if you've done sudo password, you've basically set a root password to your ubuntu?
[16:03] <metricpiano> i'm blindly following guides I don't understand.... if they say su - then I su -... can't help it can't find the right info... *shrug*
[16:03] <Slart> demonic: hmm.. not really sure.. haven't used that myself
[16:03] <cinex> never: well done :D
[16:03] <ksbalaji> !openoffice channel
[16:03] <ikonia>  ksbalaji #openoffice.org
[16:03] <blakkheim> metricpiano: blinding following guides you don't understand isn't a good idea
[16:03] <blakkheim> metricpiano: blindly*
[16:03] <davidoe> configure: error: No 32-bit datatype found - please report this to the developers
[16:03] <ksbalaji> ikonia, thanks!
[16:03] <super> !firefox
[16:03] <Slart> !who | davidoe
[16:03] <Myrtti> metricpiano: blindly following instructions isn't a good idea, you might have just mucked your system to a state where we can't help you with any of your problems
[16:04] <super> !firefox uninstall
[16:04] <bwallen> I've got ubuntu installed on a 4gb usb stick. Is it possible to upgrade that to a 16gb stick and take advantage of all of it's space?
[16:04] <Ubershutze> cinex: Okies, i will try that and report here any success. Thanks for your help ! :P
[16:04] <demonic> I tried dl a new ISO and use the one on the CD and still doesn't work for me, I did a fresh install of Karmic Kola and think thats why
[16:04] <sipior> davidoe: well, which package? what version of ubuntu are you running? how are you running the configure script? the quality of the help you receive is generally proportional to the amount of data you provide.
[16:04] <ikonia> bwallen: just copying the file systems over and installing grub on the new stick will work
[16:04] <metricpiano> @blindyfollowing guides: I know I'm being pissy.  being new to ubuntu suxxor
[16:04] <cinex> bwallen: u could try copying all the files then isntalling grub on it ?
[16:04] <zilkomaa> If my music playing starts stutter (does it very rarely) how can i fix it without restarting ?
[16:05] <krishna_> hi
[16:05] <cinex> bwallen: you could install it onto the new stick, then transfer all your personal files over
[16:05] <t35t0r> where are downloaded package files?
[16:05] <t35t0r> I don't see them in /var/lib/dpkg
[16:05] <Slart> !details | zilkomaa
[16:05] <ikonia> !synaptic | t35t0r
[16:05] <Pici> t35t0r: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[16:05] <ddavids> pls i need help with winff and ffmpeg
[16:05] <qilu> I have a problem with my showlyric
[16:05] <Slart> zilkomaa: at least tell us WHICH music player
[16:06] <krishna_> I just installed ubuntu9.10 but i am not able to get any sound
[16:06] <krishna_> plz help
[16:06] <nandor> ahh... can I ask, that why can I see in scrshots, that skype icon is orange? I have blue icon, is that orange is newer version (not 2.X)?
[16:06] <cinex> t35t0r: /var/cache/apt/archives
[16:06] <t35t0r> where did the downloaded flashplugin-nonfree .tar.gz go ? apt-get doesn't want to install the thing saying that the SHA256 doesn't match
[16:06] <zilkomaa> Slart: vlc
[16:06] <t35t0r> tried apt-get update and didn't fix the problem
[16:06] <Slart> zilkomaa: ok.. and then back to the rest of the details..
[16:06] <davidoe> sipior: sudo ./autogen.sh is the command that i am running im running ubuntu 9.10. and i know whery little about linux in general. sry bout that
[16:06] <ikonia> t35t0r: what version of ubuntu are you using
[16:06] <t35t0r> 8.10
[16:07] <Slart> zilkomaa: you might want to add other info .. playing music from the local hard drive.. streaming from internet etc?
[16:07] <sipior> davidoe: but what are you trying to build?
[16:07] <Krewl> In case of an apt-get dist upgrade proces beeing intterupted because my session was hung up, can I log in, kill aptś process ID and start apt-get dist-upgrade again?
[16:07] <davidoe> sipior: xbtt
[16:07] <cinex> Krewl: apt-get autoresumes. so probably
[16:07] <BluesKaj> Krewl, from the tty prompt ?
[16:07] <krishna_> I just installed ubuntu9.10 but i am not able to get any sound ...
[16:07] <Myrtti> Krewl: depends on what state you kill it in
[16:07] <zilkomaa> Slart: music just starts stuttering, and im playing it on my local drive
[16:07] <cinex> Krewl: as long as it hasn't got to the install stage?
[16:07] <Krewl> remote session
[16:07] <t35t0r> i can download the file manually, but apt-get says that it downloaded the file and put it somewhere ..trying to figure out where it put it
[16:08] <babo1> i can't open xclock
[16:08] <cinex> Krewl: and it is still downloading files
[16:08] <Krewl> and yes itś inthe install stage
[16:08] <babo1> DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0.0; export DISPLAY
[16:08] <cinex> Krewl: I dont know then
[16:08] <Krewl> downloading was done already
[16:08] <ikonia> t35t0y3you may need to log a bug on launchpad.net to get the flashplugin sha's updated
[16:08] <Pici> !who
[16:08] <babo1> usr/X11R6/bin/xclock
[16:08] <Slart> zilkomaa: sorry.. try asking the channel again
[16:08] <krishna_> I just installed ubuntu9.10 but i am not able to get any sound
[16:08] <BluesKaj> Krewl, let it go for a while til you're sure all is installed
[16:09] <t35t0r> OkropNick, but do you know where it downloads package files into ?
[16:09] <Krewl> BluesKaj: The problem is part of the proces is interactive
[16:09] <t35t0r> blah i'll just strace
[16:09] <rossini> salve
[16:09] <rossini> !list
[16:09] <Krewl> BluesKaj: so it waits for input
[16:09] <ikonia> t35t0r: strace won't help you
[16:09] <BluesKaj> Krewl, did X crash ?
[16:09] <babo1> i can't seem to open xclock. i think i have a DISPLAY variable set incorrectly. can anyone help ?
[16:09] <nandor> ahh... can I ask, that why can I see in scrshots, that skype icon is orange? I have blue icon, is that orange is newer version (not 2.X)?
[16:09] <t35t0r> ikonia, it will if i do strace -ff
[16:09] <ikonia> t35t0r: no it won't
[16:09] <cinex> pog: did mplayer do what u wanted?
[16:09] <t35t0r> i'll show you
[16:09] <ikonia> t35t0r: it wo'nt make the checksum start working
[16:10] <sipior> davidoe: the documentation mentions running make.sh. have you tried that?
[16:10] <Krewl> BluesKaj: No, the ssh session hung up.. (screen freeze)
[16:10] <krishna_> I just installed ubuntu9.10 but i am not able to get any sound
[16:10] <t35t0r> ikonia, I want to find where it downloads the file into
[16:10] <zleap> ce20_manja, I don't think you are allowed to advertise in here or in IM esp other networks
[16:10] <zilkomaa> slart, naah its hard to help this kind of problem, i restarted computer and everything is working fine again..
[16:10] <t35t0r> i don't care about the checksum
[16:10] <ikonia> t35t0r: /var/cache/apt normally
[16:10] <BluesKaj> Krewl, ok, X crashed earlier on my update , so I thought it might be the same problem
[16:10] <Pici> zleap: Are you getting unsolicited private messages from ce20_manja?
[16:11] <eurisko> what is the name of tool to set the default login manager?
[16:11] <davidoe> sipior: no i havent.
[16:11] <rossini> !list
[16:11] <zleap> Pici, yes
[16:11] <Pici> zleap: Can you pm me the contents?
[16:11] <cinex> eurisko: it is written in a file somewhere. or you can edit the links in /etc/rc<runlevel>.d
[16:11] <zilkomaa> How to check alsa drivers version?
[16:11] <eurisko> /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[16:11] <zleap> erm i just closed the window,
[16:12] <BluesKaj> rossini, this not a server chat , list in the server teat box
[16:12] <zleap> sorry
[16:12] <cinex> eurisko: or uninstall one
[16:12] <Krewl> I love debian, Kill apt-get proces id, retried apt-get dist-upgrade and it told me what to do :-D
[16:12] <BluesKaj> text
[16:12] <eurisko> i have edited twice and now gdm doesn't work
[16:12] <Pici> eurisko: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm or kdm
[16:12] <eurisko> but good news
[16:12] <Krewl> BluesKaj: thanx
[16:12] <eurisko> kdm is now working
[16:12] <t35t0r> yup /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree
[16:12] <zilkomaa> Or how to update / upgrade alsa drivers from terminal?
[16:12] <assembler> I have installed python in my ubuntu 9.10 but cann't locate it any of the menus. can anyone help ?
[16:12] <eurisko> tks pici
[16:12] <davidoe> sipior: i am was folloing an online tutorial and it did not mention the make.sh -cheking the documentation this time around
[16:12] <zleap> backlater
[16:13] <chiiiiiz> cinex: I found Avidemux... and it saves my life... but I was originally looking for a command line in order to batch transcode...
[16:13] <alienkid10> what partitions do I need a on a Flashdrive to use it as the persistent media for a
[16:13] <alienkid10> LiveCD
[16:14] <alienkid10> whoops hit enter sorry
[16:14] <eurisko> i really can't uderstand what's up with gdm...
[16:14] <assembler> I have installed python in my ubuntu 9.10 but cann't locate it any of the menus. can anyone help ?
[16:14] <chiiiiiz> I guess Avidemux can't be driven by a command line to do batch..
[16:14] <cinex> chiiiiiz: watch the logfiles and outputs of the program, it might help you learn how to get around the commandline problem
[16:14] <eurisko> but even kdm half a hour ago did the same
[16:14] <OerHeks> alienkid10 fat32
[16:14] <ikonia> assembler: it's not a menu application
[16:14] <ikonia> assembler: it's a scripting language
[16:14] <BluesKaj> eurisko, you must choose which desktop manager you want at login if you run both kde and gnome ...i'm sure you're aware of that , right ?
[16:14] <chiiiiiz> cinex: where do I find them?
[16:14] <cinex> chiiiiiz: everything can be run by commandline EVERYTHING
[16:14] <assembler> is it not an IDE ?
[16:14] <ikonia> assembler: no
[16:14] <alienkid10> OerHeks: I know the format what do I name them?
[16:14] <eurisko> yeah
[16:14] <chiiiiiz> I am no command-line guru... yet
[16:15] <eurisko> i using gdm with gnome
[16:15] <alienkid10> or do I only need casper-RW
[16:15] <eurisko> i just installed kdm to try to find out a problem
[16:15] <Pici> !who
[16:15] <cinex> chiiiiiz: I guess it will havea log file or an output window. or just run it from a terminal and watch the ouput
[16:15] <assembler> ikonia, so do i have to write the code and compile it in the terminal like gcc ?
[16:15] <alienkid10> OerHeks:  or do I only need casper-RW
[16:15] <chiiiiiz> OK... I will do my homework, and I 'll come back here in a few days if I have more questions... Thanks to all of you
[16:15] <ikonia> assembler: qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqyup
[16:16] <ikonia> assembler: sorry, yes, that's right
[16:16] <cinex> chiiiiiz: np
[16:16] <chiiiiiz> bye
[16:16] <cinex> bye
[16:16] <OerHeks> alienkid10 no name, unetbootin or the ubuntu's usb-creator-gtk does the handeling with partitions + free space to save personal data
[16:16] <assembler> ikonia, Thanks.
[16:16] <sipior> assembler: python is an interpreted language, so you don't generally compile it yourself. try firing up a terminal, and typing "python".
[16:16] <peluchito2> OLA
[16:16] <jumar> hello! is there a fix on jaunty for a dell d830 laptop wifi? i already installed backports and the intel wifi package in the firmware dir
[16:17] <sipior> assembler: you can of course use your favourite editor, as you like.
[16:17] <kaddi> jumar: what is not working?
[16:17] <assembler> ikonia, Do you have a basic idea of python ? i am absolutely beginner to it.
[16:17] <alienkid10> OerHeks: I don't want the USB bootable unless it can also run Portable Apps on Windows
[16:17] <ikonia> assembler: try ##python
[16:17] <alienkid10> Which from reading around looks to be imposable with a bootable USB
[16:17] <jumar> kaddi: the problem is that i cant connect to wpa networks, so encrypted network in school dont work, it connects, but cant communicate
[16:18] <sipior> assembler: start here: http://diveintopython.org/  Have fun :-)
[16:18] <kaddi> jumar: have you tried alternative networkmanager such as wicd?
[16:18] <kaddi> jumar: do you know for sure that your wireless card can do wpa encryption?
[16:18] <jumar> no i haven't im stuck with gnome's from the start, but i can give it a shot
[16:19] <assembler> ikonia, I was going through a book "Beginning python", it has mentioned that i can use a python editor
[16:19] <Pablillo> hay algen del virgen de la cabeza o alguen q sea español?
[16:19] <jumar> kaddi: does it make a difference?
[16:19] <demonic> An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for evolution-alarm-notify.
[16:19] <koltroll> Anyone in here using dual screens with radeon 4770?
[16:19] <cinex> urgh radeon
[16:19] <alienkid10> OerHeks: if I use unetbootin can I run Portable Apps while in Windows?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> !es | Pablillo
[16:19] <ikonia> assembler: some of the guys in #python will have some good ideas
[16:19] <t35t0r> how do i install firefox-3.5 on 8.10 ? sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5 not doing it
[16:19] <jumar> yes, my wifi did it on hardy and intrepid, the jaunty upgrade messed it up
[16:20] <jumar> i read that xfce 4.6.1 would fix it, but i cant find a repo for it
[16:20] <ikonia> t35t0r: it's not available
[16:20] <babo1> i can't open xclock. i just get nothing, the terminal hangs. I've set the export variable to export DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0.0 Does anyone have any ideas about how i can fix this please ?
[16:20] <demonic> How can I get rid of the evolution-alarm-notify, it came with the fresh install of Ubuntu 9.10
[16:20] <kaddi> jumar: ok. I'm using wicd and it's working great. I've had trouble with network manager and wpa2, that is why I switched, in the past. So I guess it may be relevant.  Not sure if it is a solution to your problem
[16:21] <sipior> babo1: instead of setting DISPLAY manually, try logging in with the -X switch to ssh.
[16:21] <t35t0r> it says firefox-3 is installed but launching firefox launches 1.9
[16:21] <cinex> t35t0r: edit the menu and see if the command is wrong
[16:21] <jumar> kaddi: thanks i just needed a real testemonial, was not sure about it on the forums, i've been fighting nm-applet since day one on my laptop
[16:21] <ikonia> t35t0r: there is no firefox 1.9
[16:21] <cinex> t35t0r: uninstall the old firefox
[16:22] <ikonia> t35t0r: it launches firefox 3.0.17
[16:22] <jumar> thanks, installing wicd
[16:22] <fishsponge> hey people - simple question... how do i stop the mysql server from starting up when the system boots?
[16:22] <babo1> sipior: how do i do that ?
[16:22] <t35t0r> no lauinched it from "firefox"
[16:22] <fishsponge> "insserv -r mysqld" doesn't seem to work...
[16:22] <babo1> what username and pass do i use ?
[16:22] <ikonia> fishsponge: update-rc.d
[16:22] <sipior> babo1: well, your own, i hope!
[16:22] <t35t0r> it says version <IP_ADDRESS> but down in the build identifier it says Firefox/3.0.17
[16:22] <kaddi> jumar: I've been very happy with wicd since intrepid. So it's probably not fixing the same problems you've been having, since they only appeared in the jaunty upgrade ;)
[16:22] <sipior> babo1: you're trying to run X applications on a remote machine, right?
[16:22] <t35t0r> is this the branding issue again?
[16:22] <erUSUL> fishsponge: sudo update-rc.d -f mysqld remove
[16:22] <t35t0r> uggh
[16:23] <babo1> sipior, no, i'm trying to run it locally ...
[16:23] <ikonia> t35t0r: no, it's branded as 3.0.17
[16:23] <t35t0r> do you wan't a friggin screenshot?
[16:23] <t35t0r> about: shows firefox version <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:23] <t35t0r> the build identifier shows Firefox/3.0.17
[16:23] <t35t0r> confusing
[16:23] <ikonia> t35t0r: I'm on 8.10 now
[16:23] <ikonia> t	I'm using the version from the repo
[16:23] <sipior> babo1: then no need to set a display variable, just run xclock from a terminal.
[16:24] <fishsponge> thanks, people! :-)
[16:24] <t35t0r> anyways why isnt' the flashplayer working i put libflashplayer.so into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/
[16:25] <BluesKaj> t35t0r, got flashplugin-nonfree installed ?
[16:25] <ikonia> t35t0r: permissions maybe ?
[16:25] <cinex> t35t0r: shouldnt it be /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?
[16:25] <babo1> sipior babo@eire:~/Desktop$ xclock
[16:25] <babo1> Error: Can't open display:
[16:25] <ikonia> BluesKaj: he can't as the 8.10 pacakge has invalid check sums
[16:25] <t35t0r> BluesKaj, no it's 644 root:root ..let me try the mozilla dir
[16:25] <sipior> babo1: try opening a new terminal, and don't set DISPLAY
[16:26] <babo1> sipior: same problem
[16:26] <t35t0r> help -> about shows 3.0.17 but about: in URL bar shows <IP_ADDRESS>
[16:26] <sipior> babo1: other X applications run fine, i assume?
[16:26] <t35t0r> with the correct build identifier at the bottom
[16:26] <babo1> sipior yes
[16:26] <ikonia> t35t0r: that's the ubuntu build id
[16:27] <t35t0r> ok it was /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[16:27] <cinex> t35t0r: when I set up my plugins i link ~/.mozilla/plugins to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[16:27] <sipior> babo1: does something like "xeyes" run with no trouble?
[16:28] <babo1> sipior: same error
[16:28] <sipior> babo1: you're logged into X right now, right?
[16:29] <cinex> t35t0r: the command(s) would be: cd /home/shannon/.mozilla/; ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[16:29] <cinex> t35t0r: the command(s) would be: cd ~/.mozilla/; ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[16:29] <t35t0r> unnecessary
[16:29] <cinex> t35t0r: works don't it
[16:29] <babo1> sipior, yes
[16:29] <nightfrog> does ubuntu have something like snipping tool in windows 7
[16:29] <t35t0r> the ubuntu builds already read from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[16:29] <OerHeks> alienkid10 if you make a storage of the leftover usb-stick memory, you could save portable apps on in ?
[16:29] <sipior> babo1: you haven't run an X application through sudo at any point, have you?
[16:30] <babo1> sipior, nope
[16:30] <Slade-> Hey apt-get is doing something I dont understand..  i'm trying to install couchdb, which depends on erlang..   but apt-get install couchdb will install fewer packages than apt-get install erlang ... how come?
[16:30] <sipior> babo1: what does "echo $DISPLAY" produce in the terminal you're using?
[16:31] <babo1> <IP_ADDRESS>:0.0
[16:31] <babo1> sipior;
[16:31] <sipior> babo1: try "unset DISPLAY"
[16:31] <cinex> DISPLAY=
[16:31] <sipior> babo1: and then xclock or whatever
[16:31] <irfan_> how ca i install video and audio drivers in ubuntu ?
[16:31] <cinex> better still poo=$ISPLAY;DISPLAY=
[16:32] <tp43_> I am banned from #inkscape, why?
[16:32] <cinex> better still poo=$DISPLAY;DISPLAY=
[16:32] <babo1> oracle@eire:~$ unset DISPLAY
[16:32] <babo1> oracle@eire:~$ xclock
[16:32] <babo1> Error: Can't open display:
[16:32] <irfan_> any body help me ?
[16:32] <ikonia> t35t0r: ubuntu doesn't manaage #inkscape, talk to their staff/ops
[16:32] <cinex> babo1: are you in an xterminal after having su'd ?
[16:32] <sipior> babo1: now, try "export DISPLAY=localhost:0"
[16:32] <ikonia> t35t0r: sorry, not you
[16:32] <babo1> cinex
[16:32] <ikonia> tp43_: ubuntu doesn't manaage #inkscape, talk to their staff/ops
[16:32] <babo1> yes
[16:32] <irfan_> heloooo
[16:32] <cinex> babo1: then it wont work
[16:33]  * sipior facepalms
[16:33] <irfan_> help me please
[16:33] <sipior> babo1: you might have mentioned that...
[16:33] <sipior> cinex: (nice catch :-)
[16:33] <bazhang> irfan_, ask a question then
[16:33] <cinex> babo1: this is some kind of security issue you have to reset somehow
[16:33] <oreja> ola
[16:33] <irfan_>  how can i install video and audio drivers in ubuntu ?
[16:33] <zonema> Howabout sound whit alc1200?
[16:33] <cinex> irfan_: which video card?
[16:33] <oreja> ok
[16:33] <babo1> sipior, cinex; it won't work in my new terminal either
[16:33] <cinex> sipior: thanks
[16:34] <zonema> i think i need  too add a usersomewhere
[16:34] <cinex> babo1: did u su ?
[16:34] <irfan_> it's built in in asuse board
[16:34] <babo1> cinex; not in my new terminal
[16:34] <cinex> irfan_: do lspci |grep VGA
[16:34] <irfan_> on intel DG31 PR
[16:34] <oreja> ola
[16:34] <cinex> babo1: u just messed with all the $DISPLAY stuff, maybe u broke it ?
[16:34] <epinky> !es | oreja
[16:34] <sipior> babo1: and what is DISPLAY in the new terminal?
[16:35] <babo1> sipior blanl
[16:35] <babo1> blank
[16:35] <irfan_> when i install ubuntu the every thing was ok but now no any driver installed
[16:35] <cinex> irfan_: open an xterminal and run the command: lspci |grep VGA
[16:35] <cinex> it will tell u what video card u have
[16:35] <irfan_> ok
[16:36] <zilkomaa> Can someone tell me why like my firefox minimizes himself automatically suddenly?
[16:36] <irfan_> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10)
[16:36] <cinex> irfan_: im googling,  what version of ubuntu do u have?
[16:36] <lost_in_edmonton> anyone having issues with VirtualBox not saving last state?
[16:37] <irfan_> 9.10
[16:38] <irfan_> it's 9.10
[16:38] <Guest27922> hello there, i have a  problem here with X: the screen sometimes becomes unreadable, with destroyed patterns, i must alt tab or minimize maximize to get something back again, it s a weird problem and i don t really know here to begin
[16:38] <cinex> can someone confirm that 9.10 has no xorg.conf ?
[16:38] <ZykoticK9> cinex, not by default
[16:38] <irfan_> cinex: now what ?
[16:38] <lost_in_edmonton> you have to create it
[16:39] <cinex> irfan_: do u have a restricted hardwear driver in the restricted hardwear driver application ?
[16:39] <irfan_> no
[16:40] <Guest27922> i also have a question: how does perform a netbook compared to a pentium III laptop?
[16:40] <irfan_> it's just for windows
[16:40] <cinex> irfan_: you could try installing xserver-xorg-video-intel
[16:40] <cinex> i hate there being no xorg.conf
[16:40] <Guest27922> i have an old laptop; i read they are slow sluggish etc. But i d like to know whether i ll still feel a speed improvement or not
[16:40] <llutz> Guest27922: most netbooks should be faster
[16:40] <irfan_> how can i do it ?
[16:41] <cinex> irfan_: in the xterminal run the command: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[16:41] <Guest27922> llutz: ok so the asus 1201n ith nvidia ion should perworm well then? will i notice a NICE difference?
[16:41] <irfan_> i have done
[16:41] <cinex> irfan_: just now or already before?
[16:41] <Guest27922> i can feel a nice diff between a PIV laptop and a intel core 2 duo...
[16:41] <epinky> GUest27922: IMHO netbooks and smartbooks have superior performance than pentium III
[16:41] <irfan_> just now
[16:42] <cinex> irfan, try logging out an in. then come back here
[16:42] <Guest27922> epinky: ok cool. good news then
[16:42] <cinex> irfan_:
[16:42] <cinex> irfan_: if it messes up. you need to press cntrl+alt+f1 log in and run the command apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-intel
[16:43] <irfan_> ok
[16:44] <nomic> if i put 2 graphics cards into a pc -- would I be able to run 4 monitors with the same desktop with ubuntu -- (anyone)?
[16:44] <lost_in_edmonton> anyone having issues with encrypted file systems riding 9.10 x64, particularly /home/xxx when residing on RAID'd devices?
[16:44] <cinex> nomic: good question
[16:44] <nomic> i am using synergy and want more -- ie -- drag and drop over 4 monitors
[16:45] <zicada> nomic: in theory yeah
[16:45] <zicada> nomic: same desktop as in, clones ?
[16:45] <nomic> no -- 4 screens -- expanded desktop
[16:45] <cinex> nomic: you into flight sims?
[16:45] <nomic> i'm into having lots of space on screen -- graphics
[16:45] <cinex> k
[16:46] <michael_> hi quick question about iptables. will this script work: http://pastebin.com/m2af0cf3f ? want only ssh and http to be open on the server.
[16:46] <Pici> lost_in_edmonton: regarding vbox issues:  I've not had any problems with virtualbox on any of the platforms I've run it on.  For more specific help you could try asking in #vbox
[16:46] <cinex> michael_: install guarddog
[16:46] <cinex> michael_: guarddog builds them for you
[16:46] <nomic> there is no point in clones of the desktop over screens -- will it do a complete desktop (2 graphics cards 4 monitors?)
[16:46] <assembler> ikonia, why its written everywhere "PythonCard is a GUI construction kit for building cross-platform desktop applications on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux, using the Python language." ?
[16:46] <caparz0>  f
[16:47] <michael_> cinex: isnt that gui?
[16:47] <michael_> its on a headless server
[16:47] <cinex> michael_: yes
[16:47] <cinex> oh
[16:47] <cinex> michael_: you can copy the script file over after you've built it i guess
[16:47] <irfan_> irfan
[16:47] <cinex> /etc/rc.firewall
[16:47] <lost_in_edmonton> thx Pici on that channel as well
[16:47] <cinex> hi irfan_
[16:48] <ZykoticK9> nomic, as zicada said "in theory yeah" - you'll probably have less issues if both graphics cards are the same make - trying to use two different drivers could get ugly - best of luck man (would put my 2 monitor setup to shame)
[16:48] <irfan_> yes em trying
[16:48] <michael_> cinex: i have no computers with linux exept this though
[16:48] <cinex> michael_: oh. then you need to read a book
[16:48] <nomic> ok ty zykotick9
[16:48] <irfan_> not working
[16:48] <michael_> cinex: :P
[16:48] <jojojo> hi!
[16:48] <cinex> michael_: if u mess it up its going to need a 'head' because you will be locked out over ssh
[16:49] <irfan_> i think em doing wrong
[16:49] <michael_> cinex: i know.. thats why i want someone to "Ok" it :)
[16:49] <irfan_> or could not understand properly
[16:49] <Pici> michael_: The iptables gurus are in #iptables, probably best to ask in there.  You could always use ufw if you want something easier.
[16:50] <cinex> michael_: there are nuff iptable resources online. find one and learn it. once you know that, your salary could jump 20k a year
[16:50] <cinex> irfan_: what dont you understand ?
[16:50] <irfan_> i try that command but error was that could not open
[16:51] <crazygir> hiya hiya! I'm not sure if this question is better suited to #httpd, but the default config in ubuntu is pretty specific, so I thought I'd start here: I am trying to setup apache vhosts. I copied the default vhost configuration for a new vhost and added the ServerName directive so that apache knows how to work that out. Apache didn't like this: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerN
[16:51] <jojojo> hello i've a question about vmware  someone know how to use this software for network configuration ?
[16:51] <cinex> irfan_: which command ?
[16:51] <michael_> Pici: oki ill ask there
[16:51] <cinex> eurisko: ?
[16:51] <eurisko> finally
[16:51] <cinex> woohoo
[16:51] <eurisko> it was my fault
[16:51] <cinex> eurisko: what was wrong ?
[16:52] <assembler> ikonia, why its written everywhere "PythonCard is a GUI construction kit for building cross-platform desktop applications on Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux, using the Python language." ?
[16:52] <eurisko> i had a script at gdm/postlogin
[16:52] <cinex> lol
[16:52] <eurisko> that was messing up with those two specific users
[16:52] <eurisko> i am sorry!
[16:52] <eurisko> when i reinstalled kdm
[16:52] <cinex> lol
[16:52] <eurisko> it worked
[16:52] <Bookman> I cannot seem to get a printer to print over the internet.  Can anyone help with this?
[16:52] <eurisko> because it purged all the files
[16:52] <eurisko> tks cinex!
[16:53] <Danb5854> hi all
[16:53] <Pici> crazygir: That FQDN message is only a warning, its not stopping apache2 from starting.  You can add entries into /etc/hosts for each of your domains so it stops complaining though.
[16:53] <abstrakt> anyone know how to add php5-pdo-mysql under 9.10 ?
[16:53] <eurisko> sometimes we don't remember all the stuff we do...
[16:53] <abstrakt> i don't see it in the default repos?
[16:53] <abstrakt> are there some common extras repos? it's been years since i've used ubuntu
[16:53] <cinex> eurisko: but we never forget the 3 hours fixing those problems
[16:53] <Danb5854> any one know how i can fix an issue with my max monitor rez being 800x600
[16:53] <eurisko> lol, this one is already on my wiki
[16:54] <Danb5854> ive checked the wiki and cant seem to find anything
[16:54] <eurisko> but now i've got another problem
[16:54] <eurisko> lol
[16:54] <Super|aw> !nvidia
[16:54] <krishna_36> ji
[16:54] <actarus> hello, sorry I have some problem with kpackagekit on kubuntu 9.1, doesn't show me the applications
[16:54] <krishna_36> hi
[16:54] <ZykoticK9> Danb5854, what is your graphics card?
[16:54] <Danb5854> pro savage pm133
[16:55] <krishna_36> I am not able to get sound to work in ubuntu 9.10
[16:55] <krishna_36> can anyone help
[16:55] <eurisko> prior to this i had in pam.d some users in the gdm list login in without password
[16:55] <eurisko> now isn't working...
[16:55] <eurisko> but i will find out
[16:55] <eurisko> i just came
[16:55] <krishna_36> I am not able to get sound to work in ubuntu 9.10
[16:55] <eurisko> to thank you for you time and pacience!
[16:56] <cinex> eurisko: reconfigure the autologin?
[16:56] <cinex> krishna_36: u need to find out which graphics card u have
[16:56] <cinex> krishna_36: u need to find out which sound card u have
[16:56] <crazygir> Pici: oh.. I've never had to add FQDN's to /etc/hosts for apache before. is that not somethign that can be setup properly in apache?
[16:56] <krishna_36> tell how to do so
[16:56] <krishna_36> i will tell
[16:56] <crazygir> I'm a little more used to apache in BSD
[16:56] <cinex> krishna_36: lspci
[16:56] <eurisko> it's no autologin , i am doing like this
[16:57] <eurisko> on pam.d/gdm i place
[16:57] <eurisko> auth 	sufficient 	pam_listfile.so item=user sense=allow file=/etc/gdm/nopassusers.txt onerr=fail
[16:57] <eurisko> and i list all the users i want on that file
[16:57] <krishna_36> Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[16:57] <Pici> crazygir: It might be, #httpd would know better, I'm pretty sure that the fqdn warning isn't limited to Ubuntu's configuration.
[16:57] <eurisko> i list that users on the interface
[16:57] <Danb5854> ZykoticK9, i have a S3 ProSavage PM133
[16:57] <cinex> eurisko: why not remove their passwords?
[16:57] <krishna_36> This is my sound card details
[16:57] <demonic> Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/ for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-rB4h1fcOrf: Connection refused)
[16:57] <crazygir> Pici: thanks
[16:57] <eurisko> and that way they don't password to login
[16:58] <eurisko> cinex because i don't want them to change them
[16:58] <eurisko> i want it to have pass, but no require to login
[16:58] <irfan_> apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-intel
[16:58] <ZykoticK9> Danb5854, ya thanks - i had to google what a "prosave pm133" was - S3, i have never dealt with them before so i have no idea -- best of luck
[16:58] <cinex> eurisko: deny access to /usr/bin/passwd
[16:58] <crazygir> next question, where is the "proper" place (in ubuntu) for vhosts (as a DocumentRoot) ?
[16:58] <eurisko> good point
[16:58] <cinex> irfan_: sudo apt-get remove
[16:58] <Danb5854> ZykoticK9,ok thanks
[16:58] <cinex> irfan_: why are u removing it ?
[16:58] <irfan_> but you was told me like that
[16:59] <cinex> irfan_: u need to use sudo to get permission. you also need to only remove it if it breaks your system somehow - graphics are tricky
[16:59] <irfan_> how
[16:59] <Pici> crazygir: I hate to keep redirecting you to different channels, but the folks in #ubuntu-server would probably be the best people to answer.  #ubuntu tends to be more Desktop oriented.
[17:00] <abstrakt> anyone know the best way to get php5-pdo ?
[17:00] <abstrakt> i just googled it and the forums say that there is no PDO support... if this is the case, I'll just custom compile PHP by hand
[17:01] <irfan_> ok dear thnx to help me
[17:01] <irfan_> now em trying another way to get it
[17:01] <crazygir> Pici: that's cool..I didn't even know about ubuntu-server
[17:01] <crazygir> thanks
[17:02] <rothsdad> i use phone to chat in irc
[17:02] <rothsdad> lol
[17:04] <rothsdad> hello
[17:04] <armence> Hello all, I need help: I am not getting any sound at all (Yes, the usual culprits have been checked: volume is on max and speakers are neither off, nor unplugged nor exploded) Can anyone help me out with that?
[17:04] <maria> hello
[17:05] <rothsdad> reinstall the alsa or oss
[17:05] <WeirdAAR> Hello, I just saw the following when install Battle for Wesnoth. "The following packages were installed and are no longer needed "20-30 names". Type sudo apt-get autoremove to remove them". What should I make of this?
[17:05] <armence> rothsdad, How would I go about doing that?
[17:06] <nibbler> WeirdAAR, copy/paste them if you are unsure, else just autoremove them
[17:06] <WeirdAAR> nibbler,  libxine1-x libqtscript4-network libgpod-common libqt4-script
[17:06] <WeirdAAR>   libknotificationitem1 libqt4-designer libqt4-network libqt4-dbus
[17:06] <WeirdAAR>   libqtscript4-gui kdelibs5 libxcb-xv0 libtag-extras1 libexiv2-5 libkcddb4
[17:06] <WeirdAAR>   libgpod4 libqtscript4-sql libqt4-opengl khelpcenter4 liblzma0
[17:06] <WeirdAAR>   libqtscript4-xml libqt4-sql-sqlite linux-headers-2.6.31-14 libsoprano4
[17:06] <FloodBot4> WeirdAAR: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:06] <WeirdAAR>   kde-icons-oxygen libclucene0ldbl phonon-backend-xine libxine1-console
[17:06] <gonzalo> flipaosssssssssssss
[17:06] <nibbler> WeirdAAR, copy & paste them to a local textfile for future reference, or just autoremove them
[17:06] <gonzalo> flipaosssssssssssssss
[17:07] <bazhang> gonzalo, stop that
[17:07] <WeirdAAR> nibbler, Well if terminal suggest I remove them I guess it's because they are unused?
[17:07] <rothsdad> armence: you can google this : alsa ubuntu
[17:07] <renegaid> when I installed ubuntu I got grub legacy instead of grub 2
[17:08] <nibbler> WeirdAAR, most likeley, yes. whenever a packet gets installed as dependency and not explicitly it is subject to autoremoval, once it is not directly needed anymore. but maybe you started using something of it - after all you could reinstall it easily anyways
[17:08] <renegaid> anyone know why this will happen
[17:09]  * rothsdad so tired, use gphone to input these words
[17:09] <seanbrystone> is there a command that shows what files are read/writing to hard drive in real time?
[17:09] <WeirdAAR> nibbler, Yeah that makes sense. I just a saw a package like "libqt4-sql-mysql" and I got not sure whether to do it or not
[17:10] <nibbler> WeirdAAR, thats why i recommended to make a local copy+paste, so that if you miss something you have less trouble finding out the package it belongs to or whatever
[17:10] <WeirdAAR> nibbler, Could I be that I recently made a major update and this is the outdated packages?
[17:11] <nibbler> WeirdAAR, not outdated in a way taht there is newer versions of this on your system now, but outdated like in "not needed anymore"
[17:11] <Trick> cze
[17:11] <nibbler> WeirdAAR, maybe foosoft-1.0-22 needed libbar as dependecy, but with foosoft-1.0-24 this dependency is gone.
[17:11] <bazhang> !pl | Trick
[17:11] <JSteinn> Hi, I've got some problems getting my vsftpd to work, anyone who are so kind they maybe could guide me step by step though it?
[17:12] <Trick> thx for it
[17:12] <WeirdAAR> nibbler, Ok. Well I will make a local text copy as you suggested and use autoremove. Thanks for the help.
[17:12] <rothsdad> ubuntu is suck
[17:12] <nibbler> WeirdAAR, no problem
[17:12] <bazhang> rothsdad, wrong channel then
[17:12] <aggalitsas85> Hi all , does anyone know how can I connect a router in Ubuntu ??? ( prv me please)
[17:12] <vng> how do I stop Synaptic Package Manager, it doesn't respond
[17:13] <JSteinn> rothsdad, Wrong channel.. this is really not the place to let your negative feeling out. Sorry to hear though.
[17:13] <WeirdAAR> Btw, does anybody know if there is a MTP device (creative zen) manager native to Xubuntu?
[17:13] <bazhang> vng, are you installing a package?
[17:13] <erUSUL> vng: pkill synaptic
[17:13] <seanbrystone> is there a command that shows what files are read/writing to hard drive in real time?
[17:13] <nibbler> vnd: alt-f2 then xkill
[17:13] <iceroot> seanbrystone: iotop  is it imo
[17:14] <erUSUL> WeirdAAR: banshee or rhythmbox support MTP afaik
[17:14] <rothsdad> ok, how to remote cotrol my ubuntu?
[17:14] <cinex> rothsdad: ssh
[17:14] <bazhang> rothsdad, with a wiimote?
[17:14] <nibbler> rothsdad, aptitude install openssh-server
[17:14] <rothsdad> like use another linux or phone
[17:14] <erUSUL> seanbrystone: mortadelo http://lwn.net/Articles/271796/
[17:14] <cinex> controling the computer with an ipod/iphone is a serisou chore
[17:15] <WeirdAAR> erUSUL, They are based on Gnome (g++) right?
[17:15] <vng> bazhang, erUSUL : thank you!
[17:15] <nibbler> depends of what oyu want to controll....
[17:15] <erUSUL> WeirdAAR: rhymbox is C + gnome; banshee is mono
[17:15] <rothsdad> the terminal
[17:16] <QuaintRcky> There are a couple of options to control an ubuntu machine with an iPhone
[17:16] <WeirdAAR> erUSUL, Ok. I will try Banshee then. Thanks
[17:16] <cinex> QuaintRcky: its the keyboard, its crap
[17:16] <QuaintRcky> ssh will work - enable ssh server from the ubuntu software center, then get an ssh client
[17:16] <vng> when I try to open Synaptic again. It's said:
[17:16] <vng> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first.
[17:17] <QuaintRcky> or, if you want graphical control, turn on the remote desktop in the settings, then get a vnc client for the iphone
[17:17] <bazhang> vng, are you using another instance of apt?
[17:17] <rothsdad> QuaintRcky: does ssh support image?
[17:17] <QuaintRcky> no - but vnc does
[17:17] <nibbler> QuaintRcky, sure it does, via -X
[17:17] <rothsdad> QuaintRcky: thx
[17:17] <QuaintRcky> it will be pretty painful though - the small iphone screen is less than ideal
[17:17] <Stevethepirate> Well, thats merely xforwarding.
[17:17] <nibbler> yep :)
[17:18] <vng> bazhang: I just do the previous command pkill synaptic
[17:18] <QuaintRcky> I was answering about the iphone - sure ssh can do X, but not on the iPhone
[17:18] <QuaintRcky> vnc is probably going to be the best option there
[17:18] <Stevethepirate> Thats assuming his client has an Xserver
[17:18] <rothsdad> then how to control iphone using ubuntu?
[17:18] <Stevethepirate> Well, x11vnc sounds like the best.
[17:18] <JSteinn> My vsftpd server won't let me connect through my IP. I can acces it though localhost(<IP_ADDRESS>) but not the internet IP. My ports are forwarded..
[17:18] <Stevethepirate> Since he no doubt wants to use his active desktop.
[17:18] <vng> bazhang: and synaptic is closed
[17:18] <bazhang> vng, are you trying to install via the command line/software center and synaptic at the same time?
[17:18] <erUSUL> !iphone
[17:18] <QuaintRcky> there are options to control the iPhone, but pretty much all of them require a jailbroken iPhone
[17:18] <Stevethepirate> !x11vnc
[17:19] <Stevethepirate> Bot ;/
[17:19] <QuaintRcky> although I seem to remember someone said libiphone will actually work without jailbreaking - anyone know more?
[17:19] <bazhang> QuaintRcky, there is a PPA for ifuser
[17:19] <QuaintRcky> personally I have a jailbroken iPhone, which runs ssh on it, so that makes life easy
[17:19] <cinex> QuaintRcky: I had a ipod touch with the newest firmware. had to jailbreak it which needed windows (vmware couldnt do it)
[17:19] <bazhang> uses libiphone
[17:19] <reto`> !nx
[17:19] <Lam3r_co> hallo
[17:20] <reto`> ^ that's the way to go...
[17:20] <vng> bazhang: no, I use synaptic to install software. And use pkill synaptic to close it
[17:20] <Lam3r_co> please, is someone here experienced with VSFTPD ?
[17:20] <mikeconcepts> is there an irc channel for parted magic? the beta 4.9 available as cd only and I need usb
[17:20] <bazhang> vng, that is not the way to close it, did you have more than one instance running? open a terminal and type   top
[17:21]  * rothsdad bye everybody
[17:21] <bazhang> mikeconcepts, you write the iso to usb
[17:21] <vng> I don't see another instance running
[17:21] <bazhang> vng, pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update
[17:22] <bazhang> !paste | vng
[17:22] <mikeconcepts> bazhang: I tried with unetbootin and the ubuntu usb startup creator
[17:23] <bazhang> mikeconcepts, it sometime s takes more than a single try to get it right
[17:23] <niazkk5> http://kurdru.wordpress.com/
[17:23] <niazkk5>  linux
[17:23] <niazkk5>  linux
[17:23] <FloodBot4> niazkk5: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:23] <bazhang> niazkk5, dont paste that here
[17:23] <glphvgacs> hi, can I can fabs() from with in a shell script?
[17:23] <glphvgacs> or what does fabs() in shell scripts?
[17:23] <niazkk5> http://kurdru.wordpress.com/
[17:25] <vng> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/374857/
[17:25] <Pici> glphvgacs: I'm not familiar with what 'fabs' is, You are talking about bash scripts right?
[17:25] <unop> glphvgacs,  fabs() is abs() for floating point numbers?
[17:26] <bazhang> vng in a terminal type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:26] <vng> bazhang: yeah, it's running
[17:26] <vng> bazhang: thank you
[17:26] <DemoOn> Can someone help me with openofice? I made bar chart and i want to make that negative bars go down. If i make chart it is so, but when i save and open again then negative bars are gone and every bar starts from biggest negative numbet
[17:26] <bazhang> vng, next time try not to run more than one instance of apt, xkill'ing synaptic is not the ideal way of closing it
[17:27] <mikeconcepts> bazhang: so I guess I will keep trying with ubuntu usb creator if I understand you right
[17:27] <abstrakt> ok i just tried to install apache mono and the bastard hung during configuration in synaptic
[17:27] <abstrakt> what do i do?
[17:27] <ZykoticK9> conky appearing under wallpaper (using Compiz background vs Gnome/Nautilus background), when I switch to 3d Cube I can see Conky running under wallpaper -- any ideas?
[17:27] <vng> bazhang: But synaptic hang on. It does not respond me
[17:27] <bazhang> mikeconcepts, I would use unetbootin personally as have had much more success with that, also check the md5 of the iso before doing it
[17:28] <rosiu> Hi im from poland :)
[17:28] <abstrakt> bazhang, any idea? seems you're discussing a synaptic issue right now...
[17:28] <rosiu> i new user Linux Ubuntu :)
[17:28] <LMJ> Hi
[17:28] <mikeconcepts> bazhang: thank you, I will use unetbootin and double check md5
[17:28] <erUSUL> !hi | rosiu
[17:29] <LMJ> Is there anyone would could help me out with this issue plz http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8796104
[17:29] <bazhang> abstrakt, apache mono? two different packages? what are you trying to accomplish and what was the error message if any
[17:29] <akSeya> wazup?!
[17:29] <cinex> does ubuntu have an audio group to get access to sound ?
[17:29] <abstrakt> bazhang, no error message... mono-apache-server2
[17:30] <akSeya> guys.. i need some help here with dnsmasq
[17:30] <keith_> Hi
[17:30] <cinex> anybody?
[17:30] <abstrakt> bazhang, synaptic console says it restarted apache, all I get it a minor warning about cannot determine FQDN using 127......
[17:30] <stone1343-40> hi, my question is about wi-fi on Lucid, that keeps stopping. it doesn't disconnect, just stops. I have to manually disconnect and re-connect, any suggestions?
[17:30] <abstrakt> all i get is*
[17:30] <bazhang> abstrakt, just hanging when configuring? already downloaded? how long did/does it hang?
[17:30] <keith_> If I buy Crossover Linux, can I install that license on more than one machine?
[17:30] <akSeya> well.. i have a DHCP server on my network.. and I'm creating a FOG server here.. so.. i cannot have another DHCP, neither can change the existing one ..
[17:31] <abstrakt> bazhang, how long? well it's been hung for over 5 minutes now
[17:31] <bazhang> stone1343-40, lucid in #ubuntu+1 please
[17:31] <abstrakt> bazhang, no HD or CPU activity
[17:31] <stone1343-40> ok thanks
[17:31] <babo1> babo@eire:~/Desktop$ xhost +localhost
[17:31] <babo1> xhost:  unable to open display ""#
[17:31] <akSeya> I found some tutorials about dnsmasq and LTSP, but they are not working with fog...
[17:31] <bazhang> keith_, ask the crossover people as that is not a Ubuntu issue
[17:31] <QuaintRcky> @cinex there is an audio group, of which pulse is a member, but it shouldn't need to be on a personal account
[17:31] <abstrakt> bazhang, yes already downloaded, it's in the configuration process
[17:31] <cinex> QuaintRcky: what group does the user need to be in to get sound ?
[17:31] <keith_> Sorry Bazhang.  Thanks
[17:32] <QuaintRcky> you could try adding audio to the user (audio is the name of the group)
[17:32] <akSeya> anyway.. does anyone knows how to configure dnsmasq so it works as a DHCP proxy, working with FOG (PXE boot with DRBL)
[17:32] <LuserN800> I did not manage to get the new ati driver (or even now the 9.2) to work with a 4650. Anyone having this graphic card?
[17:32] <bazhang> abstrakt, I would let it error out, to be honest
[17:32] <QuaintRcky> but I would guess that your sound may not be working for other reasons
[17:32] <abstrakt> Setting up mono-apache-server2 (2.4.2-1) ...
[17:32] <davidisko> hi guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu-8.04.4-server-amd64.iso, but i'm stucked on step "Install the base system" - it fails and in console says "unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update".. but can't apt-get update it cause there's no apt-get..
[17:32] <abstrakt> bazhang, uhhh, how long will that take?
[17:32] <cinex>  QuaintRcky do u have a quick command. trying to help krishna_36 but i dont know the command
[17:32] <cinex> and I need to go
[17:33] <abstrakt> bazhang, will I be screwed if I ctrl-c ?
[17:33] <cinex> he has sound as root only
[17:33] <tave> I have two network cards in my my system. One wireless and the the other wired.  The wireless one has the Internet connection, and the wired one is for local shares.  How can I get my applications to point to the eth1(wireless) for internet use and not eth0
[17:33] <bazhang> abstrakt, not sure, but the one time you dont want to interrupt is when it is configuring
[17:33] <WeirdAAR> anybody got an opinion on Abiword vs. open office?
[17:33] <abstrakt> bazhang, wonderful :(
[17:33] <QuaintRcky> sudo adduser <username> audio
[17:33] <abstrakt> this sucks... i should have just left it alone and only installed apache
[17:33] <prathab>
[17:33] <abstrakt> bazhang, any idea how to get php5-pdo on 9.10 ?
[17:34] <cinex> QuaintRcky: that will wipe all his other groups?
[17:34] <abstrakt> bazhang, googling turns up that PDO doesn't really exist, since basically 6.x and doesn't seem to be different on 9.10
[17:34] <GoldChaos> 'lo all! Quick question.
[17:34] <bazhang> abstrakt, let me do a web search on the forums
[17:34] <QuaintRcky> nope - it will just add that group
[17:34] <QuaintRcky> hope it works
[17:34] <LuserN800> Is dpkg --get-selections available somewhere for karmic? I'd like to revert from lucid/karmic to pure karmic?
[17:34] <GoldChaos> I'm lookin' at the GetDeb repository - if I install it, will software from that repository appear in the software center, or will I have to go through the package manager?
[17:34] <GoldChaos> (erm, synaptic that is)
[17:35] <LuserN800> Or if someone can post a dpkg --get-selections for a _pure_ karmic
[17:35] <abstrakt> bazhang, also are there any "standard" extras repositories? like i used to use dag/wiers back in the day... it's been years since i've run *nix as my desktop though, just getting back into the game
[17:35] <cinex> QuaintRcky: thanks
[17:35] <GoldChaos> I'm trying to get my girlfriend set up with Songbird, but if there's a way to get all the software she needs really in the software center, I'd like that :)
[17:35] <abstrakt> bazhang, so i dunno what the officially or semi-officially recommended repos are, if there are any. i mean aside from universe/multiverse if those aren't enabled
[17:35] <bazhang> abstrakt, backports and PPA ( /msg ubottu PPA)
[17:35] <abstrakt> but synaptic is hung so I can't very well enable them
[17:36] <abstrakt> bazhang, so basically I should make my own package...
[17:36] <GoldChaos> :>
[17:36] <GoldChaos> Guess I'll just try this all myself.
[17:36] <bazhang> abstrakt, still searching, will take more than a minute
[17:36] <abstrakt> aight
[17:37] <bazhang> GoldChaos, songbird has its own website with a deb to download
[17:37] <jackhorner> Hi, id like to forward a couple of ports from my host A to host B, im currently using ssh but since line is not 100% reliable on the other side sometimes i have the port open but im not able to connect, is there any workaround to this? or any simple solution, i mean simpler than using tinc or openvpn
[17:37] <GoldChaos> bazhang: There's no deb on their site.
[17:38] <GoldChaos> Just a precompiled directory. It's very sloppy.
[17:38] <abstrakt> man this is seriously lame... i'm sorry but i have to say i'm highly disappointed in Ubuntu right now... i mean I haven't even enabled any like, non-free or other repos except for my nVidia driver... sucks that they can't even get the base packages to install right... or rather, configure right
[17:38] <abstrakt> and the whole reason i wanted to come to ubuntu anyway was for PHP web dev and I absolutely need php5-pdo for the projects i work with
[17:38] <ZykoticK9> GoldChaos, there is also a daily build ppa https://launchpad.net/~songbird-daily/+archive/ppa for songbird
[17:39] <GoldChaos> I don't want daily builds - is there one for stable builds only?
[17:39] <zamanian> abstrakt: Are you running an alpha build?
[17:39] <zamanian> Because I'm not getting misconfigured packages...
[17:39] <ZykoticK9> GoldChaos, if you want stable get the one from their site i'd guess
[17:39] <abstrakt> zamanian, don't think so...
[17:39] <abstrakt> zamanian, i downloaded 9.10
[17:40] <LuserN800> Is dpkg --get-selections available somewhere for karmic? I'd like to revert from lucid/karmic to pure karmic? Or can someone post on pastebin the output of dpkg --get-selections ? thanks
[17:40] <GoldChaos> But there isn't one from their site, that's the problem :P
[17:40] <abstrakt> zamanian, from the main download link... why would they put an alpha build as the main download link?
[17:40] <dury> hi there channel :)
[17:40] <babo1> i've created a user oracle on my computer but it won't let me log in. it gives me an authentication error ...
[17:40] <millertimek1a2m3> hey does anyone know how to turn off the default login sounds on ubuntu 9.1? and yea i know it's not pref>sound
[17:40] <krishna_36_> hi
[17:40] <zamanian> abstrakt: They wouldn't, I was just wondering if you downloaded an alpha build. Some people do that. :)
[17:40] <krishna_36_> hi
[17:41] <abstrakt> zamanian, nope, definitely not interested in alpha or beta right now, i just need a dev server
[17:42] <krishna_36_> hi
[17:42] <zamanian> abstrakt: Do you know at what speed you burned the CD? From my experience, sometimes the install is botched by burning the CD at a speed too high.
[17:42] <kori> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[17:42] <overmind> !es | kori
[17:42] <millertimek1a2m3> hey does anyone know how to turn off the default login sounds on ubuntu 9.1? and yea i know it's not pref>sound
[17:42] <abstrakt> zamanian, actually i turned down the burn speed when i burned specifically to hopefully prevent against that happening
[17:42] <zamanian> abstrakt: Well isn't that ironic. :-/
[17:43] <abstrakt> zamanian, and given that this software was downloaded from the net, not installed from the CD, i doubt it's the CD's fault
[17:43] <abstrakt> zamanian, Setting up mono-apache-server2 (2.4.2-1) ...
[17:43] <timmarshall> or how do you change the login sound??
[17:43] <abstrakt> zamanian, it's hung right there ^
[17:43] <abstrakt> and has been for like over 15 minutes now
[17:43] <abstrakt> zamanian, i'd like to just CTRL-c but bazhang says it's a bad idea... and i agree that it probably is
[17:43] <ZykoticK9> GoldChaos, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Songbird the are two options for DEB files there
[17:44] <zamanian> abstrakt: Meh. I've done it a lot of times and apt is pretty good at fixing things in my experience
[17:44] <zamanian> abstrakt: But maybe I've not tried to install very dependent programs.
[17:45] <abstrakt> k, well ctrl-c it is then
[17:45] <Baribal> Hi. I tried mounting a USB HD, dmesg however has lots of entries in the format "Buffer I/O error on device sdc, logical block 0" (full dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/m6dcb6d04)
[17:45] <Baribal> I can't even fdisk that drive. :(
[17:45] <timmarshall> how do you change the log in sound
[17:45] <krishna_36_> Root user having sound and my normal user not having sound in ubuntu 9.10
[17:45] <abstrakt> zamanian, oh, hmmm, well it just aborted the mono config, everything else went through fairly smooth... coolness
[17:45] <krishna_36_> how to change
[17:45] <krishna_36_> it
[17:45] <abstrakt> still need PDO... looks like i'm just gonna compile PHP by hand
[17:45] <johnPL> option icon 225 orange problem ubuntu 9.10 help me
[17:45] <abstrakt> since there's no PDO available anywhere
[17:46] <zamanian> abstrakt: You should try to install mono again or whichever program was aborted, just to make sure it was properly installed.
[17:46] <tave> I have two network cards in my my system. One wireless and the the other wired.  The wireless one has the Internet connection, and the wired one is for local shares.  How can I get my applications to point to the eth1(wireless) for internet use and not eth0
[17:46] <zamanian> abstrakt: You know, when it finishes.
[17:46] <krishna_36_> sound issues in ubuntu
[17:47] <krishna_36_> sound issues in ubuntu .. can any one resolve the same ?
[17:47] <keex> hello
[17:47] <ZykoticK9> abstrakt, i don't even know what PDO is, but if you "apt-cache search pdo" - you'll see 5 php5 items related to databases - hope that help (probably doesn't)
[17:47] <johnPL> i'm looking for glopal 3g full version
[17:47] <johnPL> global 3g
[17:48] <keex> does ubuntu also make use of codenames such as "testing" "stable" or even "unstable" ?
[17:48] <abstrakt> ZykoticK9, given that i already did a search with synaptic, and then with google... google results report that PDO is not, has not been, and probably will not be available
[17:48] <dury> well... is it possible to mount automatically the other HD drives each time I boot ubuntu?
[17:48] <abstrakt> ZykoticK9, PDO = database abstraction layer
[17:49] <abstrakt> persistent data objects? php data objects? i don't remember offhand
[17:49] <unop> keex, yes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[17:49] <ZykoticK9> abstrakt, i was just trying to help - sorry it didn't assist at all...
[17:49] <abstrakt> ZykoticK9, no worries
[17:50] <babo1> how do i access an account whose password i can't remember
[17:50] <babo1> ?
[17:50] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php-sqlite3/+bug/178906 abstrakt please see this
[17:51] <sipior> babo1: if you have sudo access on the machine, you can always reset the account's password.
[17:51] <Pici> abstrakt: the package description for php5-mysql says that it provides the pdo_mysql module.
[17:51] <keex> unop: I mean testing... can I simply specify testing instead of a fixed codename?
[17:51] <shreymech> hello everyboody..i have a serious problem with my ubuntu 9.10... whenever i suspend or hibernate my system and when i resumes back .. my system monitor shows 100% CPU usage.... so i have to restart my system to make it normal...plzz help me with this issue...
[17:51] <ZykoticK9> shreymech, can you use the "top" command in a terminal to determine what is eating the CPU?
[17:52] <adrian__> hi
[17:52] <shreymech> i checkded but its not showing anything
[17:52] <shreymech> ZykoticK9: i checked but no help... :(
[17:52] <unop> keex, no, not as far as i know off.
[17:52] <adrian__> can anybody tell me how can I change my mouse pointer ?
[17:52] <ZykoticK9> shreymech, does top show 100% CPU usage?
[17:53] <shreymech> ZykoticK9, hold on i will check again
[17:53] <trism> adrian__: System/Preferences/Appearance, click customize, select the pointer tab
[17:54] <ZykoticK9> adrian__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy#Mouse Cursor Themes
[17:54] <adrian__> thx I want to change my mouse pointer to right , I want flip the arrow to right
[17:54] <ZykoticK9> adrian__, what trism said :)
[17:54] <shreymech> Zyk
[17:55] <shreymech> ZykoticK9,  hey man plzz check this.. top command is showing that 100 %
[17:55] <shreymech> ZykoticK9,  1274 root      20   0  6044 2464 2308 R  100  0.1   0:45.05 ipfm
[17:55] <git__> which is faster sha1sum or md5sum?
[17:55] <ksx4system> md5sum
[17:55] <shreymech> ZykoticK9, 100 is the CPU usage
[17:55] <abstrakt> Pici, oh? hmm, nifty...
[17:55] <akSeya> does anyone have a dnsmasq.conf sample working for a DHCP Proxy server?
[17:56] <adrian__> all the pointer are to left in System/Preferences/Appearance,
[17:56] <ZykoticK9> shreymech, ipfm appears to be a bandwidth monitor app - it doesn't seem to be part of base install, could you uninstall it perhaps?
[17:56] <ZykoticK9> shreymech, or file a bug against it?
[17:57] <shreymech> ZykoticK9, okk i will try that
[17:57] <sebastian_> Hi... Anyone knows how to turn off all the WHO CAME AND WENT infos???
[17:57] <adrian__> and I want to arrow to point to left like in RedHat
[17:57] <shreymech> ZykoticK9, will get back to u
[17:58] <ZykoticK9> sebastian_, it depends on what irc client you are using, in xchat right click on the channel on the left side and "Hide Joins/Parts"
[17:58] <abstrakt> Pici, ok and where do I access said package description? when i select php5-mysql in synaptic (9.10) it just says it provides mysql and mysqli, says nothing about PDO
[17:58] <babo1> racle@eire:~$ xhost +localhost
[17:58] <babo1> No protocol specified
[17:58] <babo1> xhost:  unable to open display ":0.0"
[17:58] <zoink> hey guys, i recently made a new array and copied my files from the old one over.  it's an NFS and now i don't have acces to the files...i'm guessing because I copied them as root.  what do i need to change the permissions to to be able to read/write from the nfs mount?
[17:58] <babo1> any one have any ideas about this ?
[17:58] <millertimek1a2m3> hey, how might i go about changing the default ubuntu setting of logging in with sound on to logging in with sound off? i mean, no matter what I've set my sound to when I log out, it still turns the volume up when I log in...
[17:58] <erUSUL> zoink: chmod ?
[17:58] <abstrakt> oh nm, there it is
[17:58] <shreymech> ZykoticK9, hii it worked perfectly for me....
[17:58] <ZykoticK9> babo1, what happens if you just try "xchat"
[17:59] <mantis> hi, can someone give some help intalling ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 on ubuntu 9.10?
[17:59] <zoink> erUSUL: right..but what permissions do i need to use :/
[17:59] <alabd> hello , what does executable mean ? here in line3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_distribution
[17:59] <ZykoticK9> shreymech, cool - you "might" want to post a bug about that program - if you feel generous
[17:59] <babo1> ZykoticK9, No protocol specified
[17:59] <babo1> (xchat:22015): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[17:59] <ksx4system> @mantis: msg me
[17:59] <erUSUL> zoink: actually chown (change the owner) them to your user
[17:59] <ZykoticK9> babo1, are you in X?
[17:59] <babo1> ZykoticK9, yes
[18:00] <git__> md5sum is pretty reliable yeah?
[18:00] <ZykoticK9> babo1, are you signed in as root, or trying to use sudo?
[18:00] <Sabbel> !de
[18:00] <shreymech> ZykoticK9, hey can u help me in solving one more problem..?? whenever i boot or shutdown my  system i see a line while booting.. "pidfile not found. is jackd running" ... what is that,,, and there it shows a red * in front of that
[18:00] <babo1> ZykoticK9, i'm signed into terminal as root
[18:00] <ZykoticK9> babo1, that's the problem!
[18:01] <ZykoticK9> shreymech, jack is an audio sub-system of some sort - i've never used it sorry
[18:01] <babo1> ZykoticK9, still doesn't work when i sign out of root
[18:01] <millertimek1a2m3> hey, how might i go about changing the default ubuntu setting of logging in with sound on to logging in with sound off? i mean, no matter what I've set my sound to when I log out, it still turns the volume up when I log in...
[18:01] <shreymech> ZykoticK9,  what is a pidfile ...??
[18:01] <ZykoticK9> babo1, are you logged into X as root?
[18:01] <babo1> ZykoticK9, nope
[18:01] <zoink> erUSUL: i feel dumb, thanks
[18:02] <erUSUL> zoink: no problem.
[18:02] <ZykoticK9> shreymech, pidfile is a recording of what PID (process ID) a particular program is running with - it's saying no PIDFILE most likely because the program isn't running
[18:02] <ZykoticK9> shreymech, i really wouldn't worry too much about it myself
[18:02] <shreymech> ZykoticK9, ohkk...
[18:03] <Lasivian> is it possible to change the default icon spacing distance for the Gnome desktop?
[18:03] <babo1> ZykoticK9, i can't open xclock
[18:03] <shreymech> ZykoticK9, hey man. how did u have soo much knowledge about LINUX.. whats your age.. are u a engineer
[18:03] <shreymech> ??
[18:03] <sjefen6> What commands sets root back to the default disabeled stage? sudo passwd root NULL ?
[18:03] <babo1> ZykoticK9, i can open it as user 'babo'. but not as user 'oracle' or 'root'
[18:04] <babo1> i've set the DISPLAY variable to be the same in each
[18:04] <ZykoticK9> babo1, the error you're getting with xchat is saying it can't open a windows in X - most usually caused because you're trying to run it as root (which is blocked in some instances)
[18:04] <GSF1200S> ok, i have a serious / filesystem issue: i have an almost plainjain xubuntu install on a 40GB / partition, and its down to nearly 990MB! Things are going to get hairy if it runs out all of a sudden
[18:04] <babo1> ZykoticK9, i get the same error when i try it as oracle
[18:04] <ZykoticK9> babo1, you shouldn't really be trying to open ANY application as root (with only occasional exceptions)
[18:04] <ZykoticK9> babo1, why are you trying to run things under different users?
[18:05] <vng> ne and only installed
[18:05] <vng> 	   apache
 sudo adduser <username> audio

[18:05] <babo1> ZykoticK9, i'm trying to install oracle 11g
[18:05] <FloodBot4> vng: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 bazhang, any idea how to get php5-pdo on 9.10 ?
[18:05] <vng> *** tux<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit: Disconnected by services
[18:05] <Sabbel> hello
[18:05] <Sabbel> Is it possible to install php4 exceptly for php5 ?!
[18:06] <GSF1200S> why is my /dev folder 7 GB?
[18:06] <babo1> no ideas ?
[18:06] <abstrakt> vng, yeah actually the various DB packages already contain PDO, there's no PDO specific package
[18:06] <shreymech> ZykoticK9, hey can i uninstall jackd ..???
[18:06] <usser> GSF1200S, thats a good question.
[18:06] <ZykoticK9> babo1, that doesn't seem to have anything to do with running xchat as root/oracle?  I have never installed "Oracle 11g", don't even know what that is - but typically you'd run the install with "sudo" if it's a command line thing, or "gksu" if it's a graphical installer
[18:06] <abstrakt> vng, dunno what you were referencing or why, but Pici helped me figure it out
[18:06] <giuseppe_> hi
[18:07] <ZykoticK9> shreymech, ? dunno - it's not installed on my system, but perhaps something you did install requires it
[18:07] <abstrakt> aight thx yall, peace out
[18:08] <erUSUL> GSF1200S: check with Aplications>Accesories >disk use analizr. where all the space is going
[18:09] <TheBase> hello.
[18:09] <Sabrinchen> I install php4 its running, when i want to install the wrapper :
[18:09] <Sabrinchen> Feb 12 18:46:21 server03 kernel: [318766.538046] php4-cgi[5198]: segfault at 18 ip<PHONE_NUMBER>56326a sp 00007fff4e10f160 error 4 in php4-cgi[4$
[18:09] <Sabrinchen> Feb 12 18:46:27 server03 kernel: [318773.116559] php4-cgi[5200]: segfault at 18 ip<PHONE_NUMBER>56326a sp 00007fffba115450 error 4 in php4-cgi[4
[18:09] <rlameiro> anyone here is expert in mirror? or apt-mirror or network install?
[18:09] <gilligan1> hello. for some reason ubuntu 9.10 won't install at all. it seems to be unable to load the kernel after the first boot splash from the installation CD. any ideas what i can do?
[18:09] <GSF1200S> erUSUL: /lib/udev/ has 14 items and is 7 GB large
[18:09] <TheBase> Can anybody help me. I'm running a ubuntu 9.10 and the sound quality is not good. I think I have to change the sound system but I don't know how.
[18:10] <rlameiro> gilligan1, maybe you can change the grapgic setings
[18:10] <sebsebseb> Hi
[18:10] <ZykoticK9> TheBase, is the sound always poor or just in certain programs?
[18:10] <erUSUL> GSF1200S: go there and find out who's the culprit... mine is 1.5 MiB
[18:10] <dagny_taggart> TheBase:  I did an apt-get remove pulse-audio.  I now use ALSA only and finally have sound in flash as well as other apps
[18:11] <TheBase> I though it was just on the browser but now I realised with mplayer is also not very good.
[18:11] <abstrakt> ok, so nevermind... i'm wondering if there's a recommended route for setting up apache document root(s) so that I can edit the website contents as my regular user as opposed to root
[18:11] <Sabrinchen> hmm
[18:11] <abstrakt> as in nevermind i guess i'm not done yet :)
[18:11] <gilligan1> rlameiro: i tried different settings. my guess is, that my box isn't working with the kernel for some weird reason
[18:11] <TheBase> It works but when you have kind of load sounds it gets bad
[18:11] <ZykoticK9> TheBase, be aware that dagny_taggart might have consequences, 1st you won't have a volume control on your panel - you might also have issues with browser audio after...
[18:11] <GSF1200S> erUSUL: nothing inside is that large.. whats the command for filesystem freespace check via cli, preferably in terms of GB
[18:12] <erUSUL> GSF1200S: df -hs
[18:12] <abstrakt> i'm well familiar with configuring apache and vhosts... just curious as to whether there's a standard method on ubuntu for allowing my regular user to edit website files... cuz afaik the standard document root for apache is owned, in fact, by root... not by my regular user
[18:12] <dagny_taggart> Zykotick9:  You are correct, no sound applet on the panel.  But so far no other consequences, it's all good
[18:12] <almu> hola
[18:12] <TheBase> I remember I saw a list with the sound systems before but I can't find it anymore
[18:12] <trism> adrian__: found some left-handed pointers for you, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/ComixCursors?content=32627 download an unpack ComixCursors-LH-0.6.1.tar.bz2 to ~/.icons
[18:12] <almu> hello
[18:12] <GSF1200S> yeah, df -h shows 991MB free on /
[18:13] <almu> hoooooooooooooooooolaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[18:13] <rlameiro> gilligan1, wich box do you have?
[18:13] <adrian__> thank you very much
[18:13] <erUSUL> "es | almu
[18:13] <ZykoticK9> dagny_taggart, i experimented with removing Pulse from Karmic - i ended up having more issues then it was worth - but hey if it's working for you great.  But please don't suggest things that radically change Ubuntu without explaining to people first there may be consequences.  :)
[18:13] <erUSUL> !es | almu
[18:14] <rlameiro> erUSUL, ;)
[18:15] <ZykoticK9> TheBase, you can try playing with http://paste.ubuntu.com/374892/ and see if it make any difference...
[18:15] <jlbprof> question: I have just installed desktop 9.10, with ssh, but nothing outside of my lan can connect and I have nat forwarding 22 to my desktop machine is there something I need to do to open it up to the wan?
[18:15] <theadmin> Nautilus behaves strangely in manner of icon placement in one specific folder.
[18:16] <gilligan1> rlameiro: Intel Core 2 Duo E7300 2.66 GHz, 32 bit, 3 GB RAM
[18:16] <aaronfc> Ive problems in #radeon
[18:16] <aaronfc> I get "cannot send to channel"
[18:16] <aaronfc> why ? :S
[18:16] <theadmin> aaronfc: Are you registered?
[18:16] <GSF1200S> erUSUL: xdiskusage shows a 35GB /, with 29 GB as "permission denied"..
[18:17] <giuseppe__> can you help me ?
[18:17] <aaronfc> yes :S
[18:17] <theadmin> aaronfc: And identified?
[18:17] <aaronfc> my username "aaronfc" is registered, and I identified using NickServ Identify ...
[18:17] <bigpresh> aaronfc: Users from the web gateway are quieted in that channel
[18:17] <theadmin> aaronfc: Channel problems then, nothing you can fix I believe
[18:17] <erUSUL> GSF1200S: run it as root (with gksudo); btw found out what was wrong in /lib/udev/ ?
[18:18] <TheBase> ZykoticK9, cool. I'll try that. Thanks
[18:18] <bigpresh> aaronfc: You'll need to connect via a real IRC client, or convince an op from that channel to set an exempt on you (or remove that +q entry)
[18:18] <GSF1200S> erUSUL: the rest according to it is using less than 3GB.. thunar is reporting /lib to be over 7GB..
[18:18] <GSF1200S> erUSUL: yeah, I was root in terminal upon launch
[18:18] <rlameiro> gilligan1, maybe try the alternate iso.... cant help more than that, you have a good system :D
[18:18] <aaronfc> bigpresh: how can I do it ?
[18:18] <abstrakt> what's the hotkey to switch desktops and where do I change said hotkey?
[18:18] <bigpresh> aaronfc: Do what?
[18:18] <giuseppe__> Someone it speaks Italian?
[18:18] <aaronfc> bigpresh: nothin, I read wrong :P
[18:19] <bazhang> giuseppe__, in #ubuntu-it
[18:19] <aaronfc> I'll try from Xchat
[18:19] <aaronfc> thanks
[18:19] <bigpresh> aaronfc: You're welcome :)
[18:19] <Lasivian> how can I change the setting that determines icon spacing on the Gnome desktop?
[18:19] <abstrakt> ok nm found that one
[18:19] <lfaraone> I'm installing Ubuntu via the mini.iso/netinstall and it seems to be stuck on "Finishing the installation" at 27%: Setting users and passwords. I checked the console and it hasn't output anything for 8 minutes. How can I "push it along"?
[18:20] <gilligan1> rlameiro: thanx. I will try 9.04. later
[18:20] <lukasz> coinnect polnet
[18:20] <lukasz> #connect PolNet
[18:21] <GSF1200S> erUSUL: says permission denied when im root, AND i launch using gksudo.. according to xdiskusage usr/lib isnt using much space, while thunar says it is
[18:21] <lfaraone> lukasz: you want /connect HOSTNAME_GOES_HERE
[18:21] <GSF1200S> this install is 4 days old!
[18:21] <erUSUL> GSF1200S: something is fishy with the filesystem. i would just pass a fsck
[18:22] <erUSUL> GSF1200S: "sudo touch /forcefsck" and reboot
[18:22] <theadmin> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2012912/Screenshot-Nautilus-strange.png - As you can see, icons are lined up strangely, one area is weirdly left out, how can one fix this?
[18:22] <GSF1200S> erUSUL: cool, ill give it a shot.. thanks for the help
[18:22] <lfaraone> theadmin: make the window larger?
[18:23] <jcordeiro> i there can any one tell me in what script/bin are the normal disks(sda,sdb,*) detected?
[18:23] <theadmin> lfaraone: It's maximized :/
[18:23]  * toastedmilk wakes up
[18:23] <millertimek1a2m3> does anyone know about a tool that can be used to simply ghost image my ubuntu partition?
[18:23] <airtonix> i assume checkinstall is not the desired way to create debs from compiled src prior to installing ?
[18:23] <toastedmilk> Can anyone help me with this?  http://pastebin.com/m53e25112
[18:23] <lfaraone> !clonezilla | millertimek1a2m3
[18:23] <lfaraone> millertimek1a2m3: see http://clonezilla.org
[18:24] <sipior> airtonix: works well enough, albeit quick and dirty.
[18:24] <Happehwalrus> I just changed my user to administrator from custom, now it says
[18:24] <Happehwalrus> "wireless networking disabled".
[18:24] <zilkomaa> Hi all. I installed gnome do and i dont have in the panel any programs only the 'search' thing ?
[18:24] <disabled> WTF!!!!!
[18:24] <guntbert> toastedmilk: please tell about your problem in the channel - you will get a much greater audience
[18:24] <jcordeiro> hi there can any one tell me in what init script/bin are the normal disks(sda,sdb,*) detected?
[18:24] <lfaraone> theadmin: unless you get a bigger monitor or make the window larger somehow, it won't use that extra pages.
[18:24] <theadmin> zilkomaa: Panel does NOT come with GNOME Do.
[18:24] <airtonix> sipior, i've used it before also, but some nagging doubts caused me to review the reasons why I use it...
[18:24] <disabled> happehwalrus: WTF!!!!!
[18:25] <theadmin> lfaraone: It DID before
[18:25] <k4rt33k> zilkomaa: Change the mode to dock mode in the settings
[18:25] <toastedmilk> guntbert, huh, should've identified first.
[18:25] <toastedmilk> Can anyone help me with this?  http://pastebin.com/m53e25112
[18:25] <guntbert> !language | disabled
[18:25] <lfaraone> theadmin: okay, that's new information. did anything change?
[18:25] <sipior> disabled: did you have anything intelligent to add, or were you just going to keep grunting?
[18:25] <theadmin> lfaraone: Nothing I recall, I messed with themes a bit but restored previous config completely...
[18:25] <airtonix> sipior, any thoughts on : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto ?
[18:25] <disabled> Nope, I'm leaving because you keep saying my name
[18:25] <lfaraone> toastedmilk: I don't see a problem.
[18:26] <Deathspike> Hello; Does anyone know if Empathy can be set up to create minimized windows for new conversations?
[18:26] <Happehwalrus> mhm. Very much wtf. I changed my user type from custom to administrator, now I can't connect to wireless networks. It says "Wireless networking disabled" to be precise.
[18:26] <ZykoticK9> zilkomaa, if you want the Gnome-Do dock - open GnomeDo's preferences, click on the Appearance tab and select Theme as Docky
[18:26] <GSF1200S> erUSUL: is there anyway to make do a really thorough check? I also would like to avoid doing fsck on my other drives
[18:26] <sudeep> how can i install fonts in ubuntu??
[18:26] <toastedmilk> lfaraone, thanks.  then it must be a grub2 problem im having.
[18:26] <GSF1200S> that didnt work- im at 990mb now
[18:27] <k4rt33k> sudeep: http://www.detector-pro.com/2009/04/how-to-install-fonts-on-ubuntu-904.html
[18:27] <zilkomaa> ZykoticK9: k thank you
[18:27] <lfaraone> toastedmilk: personally, I use "sudo mount --bind /proc /media/ubuntu/proc; sudo mount --bind /dev /media/ubuntu/dev", but that's just preference.
[18:27] <sipior> airtonix: never used it, but if you're planning on actually maintaining a package (as opposed to a once-off install), it would probably be the way to go.
[18:27] <erUSUL> GSF1200S: you can do it from a livecd. and tweak the command line options.. see « man e2fsck »
[18:27] <IanWizard> I'm  having a problem with ubuntu graphics, and I'm new to IRC.
[18:27] <GSF1200S> erUSUL: allright thanks..
[18:27] <lfaraone> IanWizard: what specifically is your problem?
[18:27] <k4rt33k> IanWizard: Can you describe your problem?
[18:28] <sipior> airtonix: another possibility would be to use "stow", and keep your source installs in /usr/local (the solution i prefer personally)
[18:28] <toastedmilk> lfaraone, you wouldn't happen to know why when I try to chainload into grub2 on /dev/sda1 that I'm getting an error: invalid magic number, would you?
[18:28] <IanWizard> I'm trying to install on my new asus eeepc 1201n
[18:28] <IanWizard> it boots and I select "live" mode
[18:28] <lfaraone> toastedmilk: what sort of disk setup do you have?
[18:28]  * airtonix begins researching 'stow'
[18:28] <guntbert> Happehwalrus: please wathch you language - what OS are you using?
[18:29] <IanWizard> it starts booting
[18:29] <guntbert> *watch
[18:29] <theadmin> IanWizard: Could you post the whole question in one post? this really helps to keep track of it
[18:29] <Happehwalrus> guntbert: 9.10 Netbook Remix.
[18:29] <jage> how do I mount a CDrom as executable?  sudo mount -o exec /dev/cdrom /media gives mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[18:29] <lfaraone> !enter | IanWizard
[18:29] <toastedmilk> lfaraone, well, when /dev/sda1 broke, I installed 8.04 on /dev/sda5, so grub tries to go into that first.  but im not entirely sure what you mean by that
[18:29] <cfedde> How can I keep single user mode startup from starting network stuff 8.04 lts.
[18:30] <guntbert> Happehwalrus: and there are user types like "custom" and "administrator"?
[18:30] <lfaraone> jage: mount file.iso /cdrom -t iso9660 -o loop
[18:30] <k4rt33k> !fonts | k4rt33k
[18:30] <lfaraone> jage: oh, sorry, I misunderstood
[18:30] <toastedmilk> IanWizard, There is information for asus laptops online, I believe...
[18:30] <fabio123> jage: executable and read-only is not the same
[18:30] <ZykoticK9> lfaraone, i don't think jage is mounting an iso (perhaps i'm wrong)
[18:30] <Happehwalrus> guntbert: Yes. Custom, administrator, and desktop. I changed it to administrator from custom.
[18:30] <lfaraone> jage: it should automagically be executable, and read-only is normal.
[18:31] <guntbert> Happehwalrus: then I have to give up - never seen that on ubuntu - sorry
[18:31] <jcordeiro> !help
[18:31] <sudobash> when I connect to wireless wpa networks it only last 15 minutes and freezes my pc to where I have to hard reboot, i have ran hardware tests and everything passed
[18:32] <Happehwalrus> guntbert: It was in Users and Groups.
[18:32] <toastedmilk> Happehwalrus, pastebin output of dhclient
[18:32] <theadmin> guntbert: Maybe it no longer exists. AFAIR, on Karmic, you can see that only when creating a new user.
[18:33] <sudobash> can any one help me with this serious bug?
[18:33] <hamzaatova2> how can i view hebrew subs?
[18:33] <IanWizard> I use UNetbootIn and put 9.10 64 bit on a flash drive.  I boot to the flash drive, and select "Live" mode.  It starts to boot, but I just get horizontal alternating red and black blocks, and vertical gray bars.  It scrolls as if it's booting. but no text.  This laptop has a high-def display and ION graphics.  I imagine I need some boot paramaters.  I just don't know what to use.  (I'm sorry for my bad use of IRC,  I'm not used to it.  Sor
[18:33] <Happehwalrus> toastedmilk: Can't, not on my ubuntu right now. Also laptop with it has no internet.
[18:33] <toastedmilk> Happehwalrus, can't help then.
[18:34] <Happehwalrus> It says under where it usually has all my wireless connections just
[18:34] <Happehwalrus> wireless networking disabled.
[18:34] <flexy> Hey, ubuntu 9.10 here, with gnome as desktop. The Clock on a panel, it shows calender when I click it. How do I change the calender to start week at monday? It's starting at sunday now and it's really confusing...
[18:34] <toastedmilk> Happehwalrus, I'd be more than happy to help if I had some information that might be useful.
[18:34] <toastedmilk> flexy, lol
[18:35] <ZykoticK9> Happehwalrus, can you right click on the icon and add a check to Enable Wireless?
[18:35] <erUSUL> flexy: it should use what your locale settings says. i'm in spain here wek start at monday and the calendar applet does the right thing (tm)
[18:35] <Happehwalrus> ZykoticK9: I'll go check.
[18:35] <toastedmilk> flexy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/langpack-locales/+bug/22375
[18:36] <flexy> erUSUL: I'm in Finland, it should start at monday as well. But I like to have my computer in english, so it speaks english to me.
[18:36] <jcordeiro> In what init script/bin are the normal(sda, sdb, etc) disks detected?
[18:36] <flexy> toastedmilk: I'll check that link
[18:36] <TheBase> ZykoticK9, changed the sounds systems made no difference. I ran alsamixer and reduced the PCM now it's much better.
[18:36] <Happehwalrus> Yes, Ican check it, but it does nothing.
[18:37] <ZykoticK9> TheBase, :)  glad it's working better
[18:37] <roscodrumm> hello!
[18:37] <Myrtti> flexy: the finnish forum has some guides and howtos, iirc
[18:37] <Happehwalrus> I'm using an Acer Aspire One.
[18:37] <roscodrumm> !list
[18:37] <k4rt33k> !list
[18:37] <k4rt33k> !list | k4rt33k
[18:37] <TheBase> #Thanks
[18:37] <erUSUL> flexy: weel if you have your computer with an english locale it will display the week as english people want it. starting in sunday
[18:37] <sudobash> the wifi will stop working after 15 minutes and when it trys to reconnect it freezes the PC and if I try to click on the wifi signal it wigs my screen out I have ATI 4200HD graphics and Atheros AR928X
[18:38] <flexy> Myrtti: URL?
[18:38] <toastedmilk> flexy, google?
[18:38] <flexy> toastedmilk: might be few...
[18:39] <xen> hey is there any way to connect my htc phone to ubuntu??? plzzz help...
[18:39] <Myrtti> flexy: http://ubuntu-fi.org
[18:39] <flexy> thanks
[18:40] <Myrtti> !fi | flexy, katso myös
[18:40] <hamzaatova2> how can i view hebrew subs?
[18:41] <mattalexx> I have separate drives for / and /home. For some reason, my / drive is full but du is not reporting what I need to debug the situation. http://pastebin.com/m5b6b416b Any ideas?
[18:41] <xen> hey is there any way to connect my htc phone to ubuntu??? plzzz help...
[18:41] <guntbert> !repeat | xen
[18:41] <flexy> right
[18:41] <tave> I have two network cards in my my system. One wireless and the the other wired.  The wireless one has the Internet connection, and the wired one is for local shares.  How can I get my applications to point to the eth1(wireless) for internet use and not eth0
[18:41] <hamzaatova2> how do i find the right subtitles for an movie--????? i always end up with unsyncronized ones
[18:42] <moos3> does anyone of documentation on how to make a servers in a VPS sevrer
[18:42] <Myrtti> flexy: they'll help if the forums fail
[18:42] <erUSUL> tave: the routing table should tell all apps where to go to reach the internet
[18:42] <abstrakt> ok, i just tried to setup vhosts, but i'm getting permission denied errors
[18:42] <abstrakt> i set the document root to be /home/abstrakt/Websites/sitename/html
[18:43] <flexy> Myrtti: that /usr/share/i18n/locale/my-locale file helps, I think.
[18:43] <abstrakt> and i placed a default index.html file in there with a simple Hello World but i'm getting 403 forbidden
[18:43] <abstrakt> i did select to encrypt my home folder, does that have anything to do with it?
[18:43] <GSF1200S> erUSUL: ok dude.. I figured something out.. I have an rsync problem.. my backup drive wasnt mounting so it was filling up / with crap from /home.. i need your help though
[18:43] <guntbert> !enter | abstrakt
[18:43] <abstrakt> permissions are 644 on files and 755 on folders
[18:43] <ZykoticK9> hamzaatova2, if your using "Movie Player" aka Totem, you can select the Sub with View / Subtitles / and select your language.  The out-of-sync might be due to the source file, or the player - perhaps try with VLC and/or Mplayer.
[18:43] <erUSUL> GSF1200S: ok; ask
[18:44] <erUSUL> tave: paste your routing table « ip route »
[18:44] <guntbert> !paste | tave
[18:44] <ersoy> hello, how can i find google sync my docs and google docs for ubuntu? thanks
[18:44] <GSF1200S> erUSUL: I unmounted the backup drive, and like an idiot, as root in thunar i deleted the backup folder (what I wanted to do), but I while it dissappeared, it didnt free up the space. Where did it go? I know trash is .local/share/trash for user, but what about root?
[18:44] <abstrakt> would it be a better idea to leave things in /var/www and just set ownership to abstrakt.abstrakt so I can edit the contents as my normal user?
[18:45] <toastedmilk> tave, try 'sudo dhclient auto eth1'
[18:45] <kiwi_> hello. does someone know if its possible to reboot instead of poweroff after ubuntu put the system in hibernation ?
[18:45] <erUSUL> GSF1200S: in root's home? --> /root/
[18:45] <kiwi_> i guess it is indeed, but where to look =)
[18:45] <ivansmo> Best FTP client for XUBUNTU 8.04  XFCE
[18:45] <GSF1200S> theres NOTHING in root home... hmmm
[18:46] <ZykoticK9> !best > ivansmo
[18:46] <erUSUL> GSF1200S: see hidden files
[18:46] <TheHiddenOne> helllo
[18:46] <ivansmo> OK sorry
[18:46] <GSF1200S> erUSUL: omfg.. wheres my dunce cap.. what a dumba**.. im used to having show hidden always shown.. thanks dude..
[18:46] <GSF1200S> wow
[18:47] <guntbert> moos3: maybe #ubuntu-server is better suited for your problem
[18:48] <trism> abstrakt: if this is just a dev machine, I usually leave /var/www as root:root and create symbolic links to projects in $HOME/Websites there, so I can edit them normally
[18:48] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[18:49] <GSF1200S> erUSUL: 30.1 GB free :) Now i gotta figure out how rsync script is wrong.. thanks
[18:49] <erUSUL> GSF1200S: yw
[18:49] <Tetracomm> I personally want to thank all of the members of the Ubuntu community to integrate Creative ZEN support into 9.10 so that it can be mounted as a drive automatically. :)
[18:50] <ldlework> Can anyone help me get ATI HDMI audio to work? I have Ubuntu 9.04
[18:50] <ldlework> I have the proprietary drivers installed
[18:50] <ldlework> The HDMI audio shows up as an option under setting the default sound, but I cannot chose it in the ALSA mixer
[18:51] <ldlework> pretty please?
[18:52] <alienkid10> everytime I try to boot the LiveCD I burned I get I/O error rebooting
[18:52] <ZykoticK9> !please > ldlework
[18:52] <alienkid10> running check for defects with it in VBOX right now
[18:52] <ldlework> =(
[18:53] <alienkid10> how long does check for defects usually take?
[18:53] <tobi_> coś
[18:54] <ZykoticK9> !pl > tobi_
[18:55] <shane2peru> ok, trying to get my printer to print faster (use max potential) when setting up the print driver, what is the difference between hpijs pcl3 and hpijs zjs?
[18:56] <erUSUL> mattalexx: have you passed a fsck to the partition ?
[18:56] <abstrakt> trism, hmm... so i can edit the root files without root perms just by putting symlinks in my home folder?
[18:56] <abstrakt> that seems... odd
[18:58] <ZykoticK9> abstrakt, certainly doesn't work for me?
[18:58] <abstrakt> ZykoticK9, er... what? i don't understand what you mean by that... what certainly doesn't work for you? and why the question mark...
[18:59] <zilkomaa> How i can remove unused icon from panel at places ?
[18:59] <ZykoticK9> abstrakt, it shouldn't work for you either, are you using sudo before your command?
[18:59] <abstrakt> zilkomaa, right click
[18:59] <abstrakt> ZykoticK9, i'm not doing anything right now, i'm questioning the validity of trism's response to me in regards to my goals
[18:59] <ecolitan_> to install ubunto over network, when setting up the bootp server, does the 'pxe' boot file just mean the .iso file?
[19:00] <erUSUL> !install
[19:00] <ZykoticK9> abstrakt, sorry i'm just reacting to what i thought was a statement - the linking thing doesn't work...
[19:00] <trism> abstrakt: I never said anything about editing root files, you have a project in $HOME/Websites/someproject, owned, by you, you place a symbolic link to it in /var/www, and you can access it, but the directory is owned by you
[19:00] <zilkomaa> abstrakt: it only opens that etc if i click home folder
[19:00] <abstrakt> ZykoticK9, i haven't implemented his suggestion... i was questioning it heavily before i did, as i don't think he quite understands that i DO NOT want to have to use sudo
[19:00] <ecolitan_> yeah i'm following that guide and want clarification
[19:00] <abstrakt> trism, ohhh ok, not enough info, i thought you meant the reverse, place symlinks in the home folder
[19:00] <zilkomaa> i mean that where is applications places system
[19:00] <trism> abstrakt: oh, sorry, the other way around
[19:01] <shane2peru> ok, does no one know of the printer drivers, zjs or plc?
[19:01] <abstrakt> trism, k, so i mean, why would that be any different though from just telling the vhosts to use /home/abstrakt/Websites/mysite/html as document root
[19:01] <trism> abstrakt: it isn't really
[19:01] <abstrakt> seems about the same amount of work to me... in fact it seems to just add an extra step
[19:01] <ZykoticK9> shane2peru, that a pretty specific question - if there a CUPS channel you could ask in perhaps?  i don't know.
[19:02] <zilkomaa> abstrakt: from places i want to remove named storage because there is two storage named shortcuts
[19:02] <abstrakt> trism, ok so that's how i have it setup right now, my vhosts just point their document roots straight to my home folder, but i'm getting 403 forbidden
[19:02] <shane2peru> ZykoticK9, right, I was not sure where to ask it, I will look for a cups channel, good idea.
[19:02] <abstrakt> zilkomaa, oh... you said panel, not places
[19:02] <abstrakt> zilkomaa, i don't know how to edit the places menu
[19:02] <alienkid10> how long does check disc for defects usually take?
[19:02] <erUSUL> ecolitan_: th guide says where that file comes « Download the netboot installer tarfile from the Ubuntu Archives (karmic, jaunty), and extract its contents into the tftpboot server file root as per above. »
[19:02] <zilkomaa> abstrakt: ok sry for my bad english
[19:03] <erUSUL> alienkid10: depends on the speed of the optical drive ...
[19:03] <trism> abstrakt: I have no idea, I don't mess with apache that much, which is why I use the sym link on my dev machine, then I don't generally have to mess with the default apache config at all
[19:03] <abstrakt> zilkomaa, lol, that's less a case of bad english, more a case of saying the right thing... regardless of the language you speak
[19:03] <abstrakt> trism, do you use vhosts?
[19:03] <zilkomaa> abstrakt: =)
[19:04] <abstrakt> well actually i suppose you do, since it's setup as vhosts anyway... but i mean multiple vhosts
[19:04] <zilkomaa> How do i remove icon from places menu ?
[19:04] <alienkid10> erUSUL: OK
[19:04] <abstrakt> zilkomaa, i don't think you do. or if you do, you probably need to edit a config/text file somewhere, cuz places doesn't show up in the menu editor
[19:05] <alienkid10> erUSUL: I keep getting I/O error rebooting when I try to boot the disc
[19:05] <ecolitan_> then I am loooking for netboot installer tar file on ubuntu.com and not finding
[19:05] <alienkid10> so wanted to know before I lock up my only computer
[19:05] <geekualizer> zilkomaa, open nautilus, show the places side plane, you can add and remove items there
[19:05] <erUSUL> zilkomaa: remove it from the nautilus side panel. just select it a and hit supr ?
[19:05] <vng> no, I don't flood. I have a problem with irc client. Sorry!
[19:05] <vng> when i upload a file on htts://files.one.ubuntu.com/upload/ . I see Invalid Form Data
[19:05] <alienkid10> will Vbox work to check a burned CD?
[19:05] <vng> What is it?
[19:06] <abstrakt> aight, so... anyone else have a guess? why do i get 403 forbidden on my vhosts? they're pretty much OTB copies of default but with different document roots... is the fact that my home folder is private/encrypted a problem?
[19:06] <vng> It seem that something's  wrong with my ubuntu one. When i upload a file on htts://files.one.ubuntu.com/upload/ . I see Invalid Form Data error. I don't know why?
[19:06] <ZykoticK9> zilkomaa, gconf-editor -- Desktop / Gnome / Interface - uncheck "menus_have_icons" but this will apply to ALL menus, not just places
[19:06] <alienkid10> HTTS I think needs to be HTTPS?
[19:07] <ZykoticK9> zilkomaa, ignorme my last statement :)
[19:07] <zilkomaa> ZykoticK9: Why? =)
[19:07] <ZykoticK9> zilkomaa, NOT what you where looking for!
[19:07] <fakeer> How long does it usually take the new Mozilla releases like Firefox 3.6 to come to Ubuntu repos?
[19:07] <Pici> vng: Ubuntu One support is in #ubuntuone, best to ask in there.
[19:07] <gandhi> forever
[19:08] <alienkid10> fakeer: next release
[19:08] <erUSUL> !latest | fakeer
[19:08] <gandhi> you're better off hitting up launchpad
[19:08] <gandhi> but that may cause instability
[19:08] <alienkid10> fakeer: use ubuntuzilla
[19:08] <peluchito2> HOLA
[19:08] <ZykoticK9> fakeer, you need to add 3rd party repos (like PPAs) if you want the latest 'n greatest of things
[19:08] <erUSUL> !es | peluchito2
[19:08] <peluchito2> quien eres
[19:08] <zilkomaa> ZykoticK9: i wanna remove shortcut from places in menu
[19:09] <ZykoticK9> zilkomaa, i don't know how - good luck
[19:09] <trism> abstrakt: sorry, I don't know, was just trying to suggest an alternative way, hope you get it all working
[19:09] <zilkomaa> ZykoticK9: K
[19:09] <geekualizer> zilkomaa, open your home folder, view | side pane, select places in side pane, you can add and remove shortcuts there
[19:09] <ivansmo> please can someone tell me a good supstitute for dreamweaver, I need editing .html .php and a posibility to connect to web server  :)  Now I have screem HTML/XML editor and I see that is not what I need
[19:09] <mattews17> que que que?
[19:09] <mattews17> ya me perdí?
[19:09] <mattews17> hay alguien que sepa español?
[19:09] <erUSUL> !html | ivansmo
[19:10] <saraaa><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[19:10] <blakkheim> !es
[19:10] <erUSUL> !es | mattews17
[19:10] <mattews17> aqui mismo?
[19:10] <erUSUL> mattews17: si
[19:10] <mattews17> ok gracias por su VALIOSA AYUDA!
[19:11] <LuserN800> how does one set its locale settings in ubuntu?
[19:11] <LuserN800> dpkg-reconfigure locales does not ask for anything
[19:12] <stefg> LuserN800: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man1/set-language-env.1.html
[19:13] <zilkomaa> geekualizer: Ok i found that but i cant remove that pecific shortcut because it is  unneeded mount shortcut i have two 'storage' needed shortcuts there and other is working and other is not..how can i resolve this issue?
[19:13] <zilkomaa> geekualizer: specific
[19:13] <LuserN800> -bash: set-language-env: command not found
[19:14] <aztek[tum]> what's the best tool for ripping CDs
[19:14] <LuserN800> stefg, there must be another way
[19:14] <geekualizer> zilkomaa, I've found this happen when devices are detached before being unmounted, it should resolve on reboot.
[19:14] <bazhang> aztek[tum], sound-juicer is fine
[19:15] <abstrakt> ok for anyone who cares (trism) it's probably cuz I checked the box to not let other users see my files
[19:15] <abstrakt> which apparently set my home directory to a permission set of 700
[19:15] <LuserN800> stefg, i don't have this command, I have karmic
[19:15] <stefg> LuserN800: set-language-env is a script that modifies your .dot-files
[19:15] <zilkomaa> geekualizer: i'll tryed that hmm maybe i should edit fstab and mount that ext4 partition in different location
[19:15] <stefg> !info language-env karmiv
[19:15] <stefg> !info language-env karmic
[19:16] <usuario__> hola
[19:16] <stefg> LuserN800: ah... ok. i was thinking too debian
[19:16] <erUSUL> !es | usuario__
[19:16] <usuario__> I spaking Spanish
[19:16] <geekualizer> zilkomaa, yes, it will show what's in fstab :)
[19:16] <fakeer> ZykoticK9: I tried but it messed up things like logos etc.. and renamed apps.. even ubuntuzilla wasn't a good option... but I believe that if Mozilla released a new version and that after Beta then it must be here.. and that too after so many weeks....huh.... it frustrates at times...
[19:16] <stefg> LuserN800: so you'd need to install language-env
[19:16] <davidisko> hi guys, i'm trying to install ubuntu-8.04.4-server-amd64.iso, but i'm stucked on step "Install the base system" - it fails and in console says "unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update".. but can't apt-get update it cause there's no apt-get..
[19:17] <LuserN800> stefg, okay thanks. just strange that after downgrading my libc6 from lucid back to karmic, I lost my LANG settings
[19:17] <LuserN800> stefg, this looks good
[19:17] <zilkomaa> geekualizer: heh i know
[19:18] <genii> davidisko: Usually happens when you have no working internet to the box (not connected or the ethernet adapter is not know and no driver)
[19:18] <zilkomaa> some1 wanna take duel in quakelive?
[19:18] <trism> abstrakt: I see, yeah, that would do it, so it's working now?
[19:18] <zilkomaa> :DD
[19:18] <ZykoticK9> fakeer, i didn't have much luch using the mozilla PPA either :|  you must understand that new software IS NOT destined to show up in the repos ever!  Ubuntu does not to rolling-release updates except for security issues.  Want a new version of something, you might need to wait until the next release.  Lucid is using FF 3.6 by default.
[19:19] <davidisko> genii: ethernet is working 100% correctly. detected 4 broadcom ethernets and internet connectivity is working otherwise i would not be here..
[19:22] <genii> davidisko: if it has 4 adapters, likely internet is connected to eth1 or eth2 or eth3 and not eth0 which is the default gateway
[19:23] <LuserN800> fail
[19:23] <LuserN800> :)
[19:24] <abstrakt> trism, yup, but i'm not satisfied, so i'm gonna set it up how i usually do, manually chown /var/www to my user
[19:24] <fakeer> ZykoticK9: is this with all the distros or Ubuntu Special Policy?
[19:24] <abstrakt> so i can leave my home dir non readable by other users
[19:24] <ZykoticK9> fakeer, several distros are like this - i'd guess most are not
[19:24] <ZykoticK9> fakeer, it's done for stability
[19:25] <fakeer> ZykoticK9: sad..  oh come on stability is fine but they should have at least a repo for that which would have been optional....
[19:25] <abumaia> when I start up my computer after upgrading to the .19 kernel, I get the error "could not update ICEauthority file /var/lib/gdm/.ICEauthority.  I found out why: I don't have a /var/lib/gdm directory.  Can I solve this error by creating the /gdm/.ICEauthority folders?
[19:25] <cig4> hi whats up m/
[19:25] <akSeya> has anyone here ever played with FOG?
[19:26] <ZykoticK9> fakeer, for mozilla firefox etc. see https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[19:26] <cig4> what are the new games for ubuntu (which are compatible with 8.0)
[19:26] <fakeer> ZykoticK9: I am not going to Daily Build or other repos because they make things real horrible at times,..... O was just looking for latest stable releases of packages like Firefox and Thunderbird...
[19:26] <fakeer> ZykoticK9: I once tried Daily build but the experience has not been good...
[19:26] <ZykoticK9> fakeer, then i'm affraid you are going to have to be patient < hard sometime i know
[19:27] <cig4> dont u know that
[19:27] <ugliefrog> join #/blender
[19:27] <pratik_narain> fakeer: try ubuntuzilla repos
[19:27] <ugliefrog> :)
[19:27] <cig4> fuck u man
[19:27] <stefg> davidisko: so there might be a problem with the chosen mirror being down or some DNS misconfiguration
[19:28] <jrib> cig4: please don't use that kind of language here
[19:28] <pratik_narain> fakeer: better still, download from official firefox website and use without installing
[19:28] <abumaia> byebye cig4.  that's the wrong attitude for this place
[19:28] <cig4> sorry
[19:28] <abstrakt> werd, my setup is complete! thanks yall
[19:28] <pratik_narain> cig4: watch your language
[19:28] <fakeer> ZykoticK9: yeah..pretty hard.... may be we could request Ubuntu for some change..
[19:28] <cig4> i want to know abt new games
[19:28] <cig4> sorry
[19:29] <pratik_narain> cig4: visit playdeb.net
[19:29] <stefg> fakeer: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable
[19:29] <ZykoticK9> fakeer, if be "we" you mean "you" then yes - i like the policy myself
[19:29] <fakeer> pratik_narain: ubuntuzilla is sth i will never try again.. had a hard time updating my firefox with it and then harder coming back to default mozilla products.. thanks for suggesting anyway.....
[19:29] <darolu> abumaia: is the .ICEauthority file in your /home directory?
[19:30] <abumaia> darolu: yes, it's in the home directory, but not where the error said
[19:31] <abstrakt> fakeer, I fail to see the problem with using FF 3.5
[19:31] <darolu> abumaia: check this file's permissions
[19:31] <abstrakt> fakeer, iirc it is in fact the "latest" version... maybe not the penultimate latest build, but if you want that you can always make a package yourself from source
[19:31] <fakeer> ZykoticK9: by "we" I mean me and ppl like me.. doesn't necessarily need to include you or anybody in particular... I certainly don;'t think delaying a stable release is a good policy...but anyway as long as ubuntu is canonical ubuntu some things will always be the way they are right now.... however I love ubuntu and want it to be better
[19:31] <pratik_narain> fakeer: actually i'm using ubuntuzilla. Its very easy to update like apt-get update command. earlier they had a script which was cumbersome to use. but the new repository structure is good.
[19:31] <metricpiano> abumaia: check permissions and owner/group
[19:31] <abumaia> I am set as owner with read write, and as group with read
[19:32] <scootsm> Question: Why does the "gnome control panel" install, but not show up anywhere in the menus?
[19:32] <kedlun> Hey anyone know if there is a undo for "clear" command in bash?
[19:32] <ikonia> kedlun: there is not
[19:32] <abumaia> kedlun: scroll up
[19:32] <pratik_narain> fakeer: may I suggest you to use opera instead. I feel its a better browser than firefox. but again, its my personal opinion.
[19:32] <kedlun> :(  thanks ikonia
[19:32] <ikonia> kedlun: sorry
[19:32] <tolga> hello
[19:33] <fakeer> abstrakt: to start.. i will name one.. the next tab opening features...which opens besides the current tab..and in 3.5 i have to use a Add-On for that.. i am already using a lot to make it slow.....
[19:33] <metricpiano> is there a better way to add applications to the Applications menu than the GUI Edit Menus?
[19:33] <darolu> kedlun: if you press "up" key you can track your steps back
[19:33] <abumaia> kedlun: clear just moves everything up, scroll up in terminal to see it again
[19:33] <Ganang> hi everyone, i have a file which is owned by root(me), and i wanted to give free access to everybody inside the machine with the command chmod ugo+rx directory-name , so why when i give a right click in nautilus with the mouse, the permission is still set to root?
[19:33] <Yevial>  hola esto q es ingles???
[19:33] <kedlun> darolu, yeah, but not output, unfortunately.
[19:33] <abstrakt> fakeer, er... you mean the little plus sign button to the right of my last tab?
[19:33] <fakeer> pratik_narain: but my problem is not the browser but update cycle brought into ubuntu repos
[19:33] <stefg> scootsm: probably it's hidden by the menu editor (alacarte). The job is done by the "system" menu anyway so actually no need to double this by having it
[19:33] <abstrakt> fakeer, i've got that
[19:33] <Pici> metricpiano: No, not really.  The application menus are in the freedesktop.org specification, which is a messy xml file.  alacarte (the name of the edit menu tool) is the easiest way to add new items.
[19:33] <ZykoticK9> fakeer, i like your motivation to make Ubuntu better - but what you are advocating would require splitting Ubuntu into Stable / Testing branches which would certainly complicate matters for everyone.
[19:34] <darolu> Yevial Sí, aquí se habla inglés
[19:34] <Yevial>
[19:34] <Yevial>
[19:34] <Yevial>
[19:34] <FloodBot4> Yevial: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:34] <kedlun> abumaia, I'm using Yakuake/Konsole. it doesn't appear to.
[19:34] <ikonia> !es | darolu
[19:34] <abstrakt> fakeer, it's srsly lame to complain that ubuntu sucks cuz it doesn't have some tiny little tabbing feature that, afaik it does have
[19:34] <ZykoticK9> fakeer, this is a topic/issue for #ubuntu-offtopic rather then #ubuntu
[19:34] <Yevial> ok
[19:34] <abumaia> kedlun: ah, sorry then, I dunno ^_^
[19:34] <darolu> ikorria: thanks :)
[19:34] <Yevial> pero esque yo soy espeyol
[19:34] <Yevial> no se ingles
[19:35] <abstrakt> fakeer, and if you *really* need bleeding edge, you probably shouldn't be using *nix, or you should be using one of those daily build distros, pick your poison... stability, cutting edge... or go back to windows
[19:35] <darolu> !es | Yevial
[19:35] <overmind> !es | Yevial
[19:35] <abstrakt> fakeer, or... install ubuntu, and compile by hand, those packages you want or "need" to be bleeding edge
[19:35] <metricpiano> root is not a permission its the owner and group | ganang
[19:35] <darolu> Yevia, escribe esta secuencia sin comillas, yo te alcanzo en el de español: "/join #ubuntu-es"
[19:35] <scootsm> stefg: The gnome interface is kinda annoying.  I'm seeeing that most (but not all) of the options show up in the menus.  When I install programs, they don't seem to be added to any of the menus and it's very, very frustrating.  KDE seems to add things to its menus, but KDE interface is fairly heinous.
[19:35] <trism> fakeer: they actually seem to be planning to move to a different update schedule for firefox, if I understand this blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-new-firefox-support-model
[19:35] <Ganang> metricpiano: how can i make it free so everybody can acess this folder?
[19:36] <abstrakt> fakeer, if you think there should be an optional repo with bleeding edge stuff, then stop complaining, make one, host it, and come back and tell us... or better yet put it on the forums
[19:36] <NewfieRich> Hey all, I am having problems setting up internet on ubuntu. Its not picking up any routers.
[19:36] <carlll> i need help installing the WoM client on linux
[19:36] <NewfieRich> any ideas?
[19:36] <stefg> scootsm: depending on the package and it's post-install script you might need to log off and back to mae menu entries appear
[19:36] <ZykoticK9> scootsm, sometimes after installing software you need to refresh the Gnome Menu (do the installed apps appear after a reboot or logoff-login?)  I sometimes use xkill on the menu to get the changes right away (not really recommended)
[19:36] <ikonia> NewfieRich: are you connecting to a dhcp server
[19:36] <abumaia> when I start up my computer after upgrading to the .19 kernel, I get the error "could not update ICEauthority file /var/lib/gdm/.ICEauthority.  I found out why: I don't have a /var/lib/gdm directory.  I do have .ICEauthority in my home directory, and I have owner read-write and group read permissions.
[19:36] <fakeer> abstrakt: stop being judgemental... if i had to go back to windows i would have been waiting here for your words...
[19:36] <darolu> NewfieRich: what's the output of dhclient?
[19:37] <fakeer> trism: thanks..i am reading it
[19:37] <abstrakt> fakeer, and that's a seriously stupid feature to complain about IMO... what's wrong with CTRL-t ? now I could see complaining about a common critical library that you need to do your development not being available... but your "rationale" is just, well... pretty paltry
[19:37] <scootsm> Question 2.0: I want to do some development in a VM (and minor desktop-ish usage).  I want to have an easy way to admin a web server+mysql / manage packages / etc.  Is there a good set of tools to install, to make this easy....  Or is there an ideal distro for this scenario?
[19:37] <NewfieRich> i Don't know, i am a bit of a newb
[19:37] <scootsm> stefg / ZykoticK9: It's weird, because even after restarting the menus did not seem to update.
[19:37] <ikonia> scootsm: mysql apache and php tools are very easy to install
[19:37] <NewfieRich> I had it working before but i reinstalled ubuntu
[19:37] <carlll> can i get help installing the WoM client for linux
[19:37] <abstrakt> fakeer, i'm still curious about this new tab feature that you say doesn't exist... cuz it looks like it exists to me
[19:38] <ikonia> carlll: WoM ?
[19:38] <fakeer> abstrakt: i just gave an example.. and as you say what's wrong with 3.5?? very well.. what was wrong with 1.5.. you could still surf the net pretty fine.. (it's really off topic now i guess...huh..).
[19:38] <darolu> NewfieRich: open a terminal and type "dhclient"
[19:38] <ikonia> darolu: he'll need sudo
[19:38] <carlll> World Of Minecraft
[19:38] <ikonia> carlll: I'm not aware of that product, one moment while I look for it
[19:38] <darolu> NewfieRich: yeah sorry, type "sudo dhclient"
[19:39] <fakeer> abstrakt: it's not there...
[19:39] <abstrakt> fakeer, you gave an example about opening new tabs... i fail to see the lack of that feature in 3.5
[19:39] <carlll> its at worldofminecraft.com
[19:39] <scootsm> stefg / ZykoticK9: I went to KDE and then back to Gnome.  Nothing refreshed.
[19:39] <fakeer> abstrakt: you might be using some plugin you have no idea of...
[19:39] <abstrakt> fakeer, maybe i'm just confused as to this fabulous new ability in FF 3.6
[19:39] <stefg> scootsm: Do you have some example ? what app doens't show in the menus? Not all apps comply with the xdg standards
[19:39] <ikonia> carlll: it's a java client from what I'm seeing, would you agree that's the right application ?
[19:40] <fakeer> abstrakt: it's about opening a tab just next to the current tab..read my first msg
[19:40] <ZykoticK9> scootsm, what program is not showing up?  did you install it from apt/aptitude/synaptic/USC ?
[19:40] <furythor> I am configuring LDAP server and now it asks password and I need to dig it up but from where ?
[19:40] <carlll> yes its for a game called minecraft
[19:40] <NewfieRich> darolu: I put in that command
[19:40] <ikonia> carlll: ok, it's a java jar file
[19:40] <scootsm> ikonia: My question is more along the lines of some kind of a Panel, where I can control all of the services that are running and make minor tweaks.  The SuSE (barf) server was OK at this, with the exception of it generating faulty starting configs.
[19:40] <abumaia> fakeer:  the Tab Mix Plus extension will give you that setting, to open a new tab next to the tab you opened it from
[19:40] <abstrakt> fakeer, mmm, next to the *current* one... k, so your critical app is that you don't have to drag the newly opened tab into place where you want it...
[19:40] <ikonia> scootsm: look at tools like ebox, mysqladmin etc
[19:41] <NewfieRich> darolu: it seems like my wireless network adapter is not installed
[19:41] <ZykoticK9> carlll, it doesn't seem to have a native linux client, and there is not currently an entry on WineHQ - you could just try installing with wine and see if it works?  good luck.
[19:41] <NewfieRich> darolu: Says not DCHPOFFERS received
[19:41] <abstrakt> save yourself some mousing time... admirable, but i still don't see why you don't just make your own 3.6 package or just download 3.6 from firefox.com and install it...
[19:41] <scootsm> stefg: Well, the Gnome Control Center, for one.  I installed programming tools / IDEs (Kate / Eclipse / others) and they never showed up
[19:42] <carlll> zykoticK9 yes there is a native linux but ITS ON WWW.worldofminecraft.com
[19:42] <ZykoticK9> carlll, didn't realize it was a java thing - good luck man
[19:42] <scootsm> stefg / ZykoticK9: Yes, all tools were installed via the Software Centeropolis
[19:42] <fakeer> abstrakt: leave it.. no use talking about it when you aren't able to see what i actually meant...
[19:42] <NewfieRich> how do i check to see if my wireless network card is installed?
[19:42] <ahusak> so I installed xubuntu-desktop, and i'm now trying to remove everything it installed. apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop just seems to remove that package, not all the underlying stuff. What's the magic command to get rid of it all?
[19:42] <blakkheim> ahusak: there isn't one
[19:42] <NewfieRich> how do i check to see if my wireless network card Drivers is installed:
[19:42] <ahusak> oh joy
[19:43] <abumaia> fakeer: check out Tab Mix Plus, I believe it may do what you're looking for
[19:43] <stefg> scootsm: check by right-clicking on the menu and choosing 'edit menus' the the entries are not simply hidden
[19:43] <ZykoticK9> scootsm, do you see an Other category in your menu?  are they in there perhaps?
[19:43] <ahusak> any ideas on what to do? or am i just going to have to reinstall kubuntu?
 lspci | grep controller
[19:44] <scootsm> ZykoticK9: I'm not that stupid :)  No other categories.
[19:44] <blakkheim> ahusak: you'll have to uninstall each package that was contained in the metapackage if you want them all done
[19:44] <blakkheim> ahusak: all gone*
[19:44] <jrib> ahusak: if no one is helping you, you must restate your problem in its entirety (on one line) when you repeat it
[19:44] <mneptok> ahusak: sudo apt-get remove a2ps abiword abiword-common abiword-help abiword-plugin-grammar abiword-plugin-mathview abiword-plugins app-install-data-commercial catfish exaile exo-utils feh fortune-mod fortunes-min giblib1 gigolo gnome-app-install gnumeric gnumeric-common gnumeric-doc gtk2-engines-xfce imagemagick libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a libaiksaurus-1.2-data libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-0c2a libexo-0.3-0 libgdome2-0 libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a ...
[19:44] <ZykoticK9> ahusak, see the Remove Xubuntu at http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[19:44] <mneptok> ... libgnomecups1.0-1 libgnomeprint2.2-0 libgnomeprint2.2-data libgnomeprintui2.2-0 libgnomeprintui2.2-common libgoffice-0-8 libgoffice-0-8-common libgtkmathview0c2a libid3tag0 libimlib2 liblink-grammar4 libotr2 libots0 libpolkit-dbus2 libpolkit-gnome0 libpolkit-grant2 libpolkit2 librecode0 libscim8c2a libt1-5 libtagc0 libthunar-vfs-1-2 libwv-1.2-3 libxcb-keysyms1 libxfce4menu-0.1-0 libxfce4util4 libxfcegui4-4 libxfconf-0-2 ...
[19:44] <fakeer> abumaia: thanks.. but i used it and then uninstalled thought firefox was bringing this feature soon.. now i may install it back... sad.. an add-on for one feature..anyway i am closing this topic
[19:44] <mneptok> ... libxmlrpc-core-c3 link-grammar-dictionaries-en mousepad orage pidgin pidgin-data pidgin-libnotify pidgin-otr policykit policykit-gnome psutils python-cddb python-mmkeys python-mutagen ristretto scim scim-bridge-agent scim-bridge-client-gtk scim-gtk2-immodule scim-modules-socket scim-modules-table scim-tables-additional tango-icon-theme tango-icon-theme-common tcl thunar thunar-archive-plugin thunar-data thunar-media-tags-plugin ...
[19:44] <furythor> I am configuring LDAP server and now it asks password and I need to dig it up but from where ?
[19:44] <mneptok> ... thunar-thumbnailers thunar-volman thunderbird ttf-arphic-uming ttf-liberation usb-creator usplash-theme-xubuntu vim-runtime wdiff xchat xchat-common xfce4-appfinder xfce4-battery-plugin xfce4-clipman-plugin xfce4-cpugraph-plugin xfce4-dict xfce4-fsguard-plugin xfce4-mailwatch-plugin xfce4-mixer xfce4-mount-plugin xfce4-netload-plugin xfce4-notes-plugin xfce4-panel xfce4-places-plugin xfce4-power-manager xfce4-power-manager-data ...
[19:44] <mneptok> ... xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin xfce4-screenshooter xfce4-session xfce4-settings xfce4-smartbookmark-plugin xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-terminal xfce4-utils xfce4-verve-plugin xfce4-volumed xfce4-weather-plugin xfce4-xkb-plugin xfconf xfdesktop4 xfdesktop4-data xfprint4 xfswitch-plugin xfwm4 xfwm4-themes xubuntu-artwork xubuntu-artwork-usplash xubuntu-default-settings xubuntu-desktop xubuntu-docs xubuntu-gdm-theme xubuntu-wallpapers ...
[19:45] <inveratulo> holy spam batman
[19:45] <mneptok> ... && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:45] <mneptok> gah
[19:45] <furythor> mneptok: !pastebin
[19:45] <ahusak> hahahaha
[19:45]  * jrib pummels mneptok
[19:45] <Pici> mneptok: ...
[19:45] <carlll> the exact download link is http://www.worldofminecraft.com/sites/default/files/womclient-1.5.9.zipit is actually pretty smalll
[19:45] <scootsm> stefg: Ok, so I see this and it might have been hidden.  I'm reinstalling / playing around with distros, so I'll isntall the stuff again and see if it's hidden.  I really don't like Gnome's interface choices.
[19:45] <ahusak> thanks mneptok
[19:45] <ZykoticK9> mneptok, use pastbin instead of flooding the channel
[19:45] <abumaia> when I start up my computer after upgrading to the .19 kernel, I get the error "could not update ICEauthority file /var/lib/gdm/.ICEauthority".  I found out why: I don't have a /var/lib/gdm directory.  I do have .ICEauthority in my home directory, and I have owner read-write and group read permissions.  Can I copy the .ICEauthority file to where the error said it was looking for it?
[19:45] <ikonia> he knows, it was an accident
[19:45] <mneptok> ZykoticK9: thanks for the insight
[19:45] <scootsm> Thanks for your help everyone
[19:45] <furythor> !pastebin mneptok
[19:45] <stefg> scootsm: so check xfce
[19:45] <ikonia> furythor: he knows
[19:45] <ahusak> thanks everyone, i'll start working on that.
[19:45] <furythor> o'rly
[19:46] <mneptok> furythor: rly
 maybe try reinstall gdm?
[19:46] <carlll> need help with fixing WoM client "http://www.worldofminecraft.com/sites/default/files/womclient-1.5.9.zip"
[19:46] <deostroll> whats a good c/c++ editor for ubuntu?
[19:46] <abumaia> thanks Kohar, I'll give that a try
[19:46] <rafal_> siema
[19:47] <erUSUL> deostroll: editor only ? emacs
[19:47] <carlll> i need help with fixing WoM client "http://www.worldofminecraft.com/sites/default/files/womclient-1.5.9.zip"
[19:47] <jrib> deostroll: there are plenty of text editors, emacs, vim, gedit, geany are some popular ones
[19:47] <ikonia> carlll: what's the issue with it
[19:47] <abumaia> by the way, which is better to use, apt-get or aptitude?
[19:47] <viano> capullos
[19:47] <ikonia> abumaia: personal choice
[19:47] <rafal_> what??
[19:47] <jrib> abumaia: use aptitude
 up to you i like apt-get =))
[19:47] <erUSUL> !es | viano controla tu lenguaje