[09:58] <vitimiti> Hi
[19:48] <LedM> HELLOW IDIOT TRASHES! SDCARDS O LIXUX ANDRUG PHONE MOUNTED WITH -NOEXEC ON FS TOO?  MORE DESPREZIBLE AND REPUGNANT CLASS OF TRASH!
[19:49] <LedM> THIS IS WAR? YOU WILL GET A REFINED WAR!  DAMMNED LOSERS!


[04:51] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Found another issue: we can't be making symbolic links in the .postinst. We can, however, make relative symbolic links in the source itself, which was super easy so I just did it. Reason being is we can't have absolute paths.
[05:40] <OvenWerks> Ok, Eickmeyer[m] I originally tried making relative links and gave up. I guess I did not fully spec the relative link. I assumed filename would be in the current directory. I guess everything has to be ./path/name then
[05:41] <OvenWerks> (or ${PWD}/ ?
[05:43] <Eickmeyer[m]> Not exactly. Since the targets were in systemd/user already, it was a matter of going into that directory, making (for example) the default.target.wants directory then, inside default.target.wants, "ln -s ../studio.service studio.service" and repeat for the other one.
[05:44] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks ^
[05:44] <Eickmeyer[m]> When one uses ../{file} for the link target, it remembers that as a relative link.
[05:45] <OvenWerks> So long as it works, I am happy
[05:45] <Eickmeyer[m]> It does. It effectively does what you were trying to do, but much more "packagable" for lack of a better term.
[05:46] <OvenWerks> Thank you.
[05:46] <Eickmeyer[m]> No problem. Glad to help. :)
[06:07] <OvenWerks> At some point the dbus_send commands should be replaced with python dbus commands.
[06:07] <OvenWerks> I learned how to recieve them, but not send them.
[16:14] <Eickmeyer> It looks like our dry spell of not being able to boot inside a VM is over.
[16:16] <Eickmeyer> That said, it looks like Virtualbox hates Xfce's display compositor.
 VBox hates everything :P
 @Eickmeyer do you need me to test something in VMware?
 (image, etc.)
 @teward001 Yeah, feel free to test the latest Studio image in VMWare, if you want. Historically we haven't supported VMs, but this is looking a bit more promising.
 *goes to download*
 @Eickmeyer [<Eickmeyer> That said, it looks like Virtualbox hates Xfce's display compositor.], I assume you installed the VBox Guest Extensions?
 (for that 'test')
 Yes.
 cool.  10min ETA on the download finishing here
 +- 5min
 ^ In other words, the basic amount of time it takes to download.
 yup.  using zsync tho :P
 Which means 90% checking against what you already have.
 which is nothing :P
 so full download
 Yep. Standard direct download at that point.


[13:06] <uzee>  Hi, can anyone here help a little bit with Ubuntu desktop automated installation? I've setup a kickstart server to do automated installas for RHEL, Ubuntu & CentOS server editions. There is a need for a desktop automated install only for ubuntu
[13:22] <tjaalton> uzee: just add 'ubuntu-desktop' to your list of deb's to install
[15:15] <uzee> tjaalton: thanks very much, I was thinking of trying that, what I don't know for sure is if there are specific differences between the desktop and server editions which might haunt us later if we base our image on the server edition and then add the ubuntu-desktop' package.
[15:16] <uzee> I also tried to see if I can kickstart an ubuntu desktop but I don't think the desktop editions support unattended/automated installs.
[15:16] <uzee> this is for some of our users, so I want to make sure I know enough about the differences to provide accurate info if we are asked why we didn't go with an actual desktop edition
[15:56] <tjaalton> uzee: both have the same kernel, so it's just the set of packages you get installed by default aiui
[16:25] <tjaalton> uzee: I've always just used the netboot image, and you just install what is needed


[10:25] <john_> for example...in order for me to play an mp3 direct from a windows share I needed to mount the windows share each time I use it
[10:25] <john_> but I heard dapper may fix this?
[10:25] <john_> by defualt
[10:25] <jauregi> hi
[10:25] <jauregi> i need help
[10:25] <ITSa341> visik7 is there another driver somewhere besides the ATI which would work?
[10:25] <pashaw> john_,   or setup an auto mount
[10:25] <hunger> john_: Haven't tried, but I doubt it.
[10:25] <visik7> ITSa341: mmm I don't think
[10:25] <alan__> dabaR  how can i browse /dev/hda  when i go there in konqueror it shows as empty
[10:25] <dabaR> john_: and, is there a line for the share in fstab that allows you to view the files without specifically mounting it?
[10:25] <marc_> Anyone here know how i Enable display of hidden folders with the default File Manager
[10:25] <hunger> john_: How are you setting up the connection?
[10:25] <dabaR> alan__: you mount it. what is on it?
[10:25] <john_> mcjerry, think I will just count my lucky stars that its working
[10:26] <ITSa341> figures, that is about the only major hurdle left for me on this thing
[10:26] <hunger> alan__ : hda is the entire DRIVE!
[10:26] <yan> MAy I ask a question:)?
[10:26] <john_> hunger, bear in mind im a newbie.....
[10:26] <Kovecses> conrad_, what are you talking about?
[10:26] <jauregi> how can i know which processes are using /dev/dsp?
[10:26] <dabaR> yan: off copurse not
[10:26] <hunger> alan__: Your data is in the partitions (hdaX).
[10:26] <alan__> its 10 gig drive full of music
[10:26] <chucker> i have a launchpad account, and i used to be able to log in to, say, shipit.ubuntu.com with it -- but i can't any more, and i can't log in to wiki.ubuntu.com (which i intended to do) either. i have already tried resetting the password, but i know that's not the problem since i can login to launchpad.net just fine
[10:26] <dabaR> yan: did you pay the paypal account for the channel?
[10:26] <jauregi> how can i know what processes are using /dev/dsp?
[10:26] <pashaw> !ati
[10:26] <ITSa341> yan    ask away and if someone can help you they may
[10:26] <ubotu> from memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[10:26] <Epix> Florob: fixed, thanks. now want to help with my evil quake3 problem?
[10:26] <korptix\a> hi.
[10:26] <visik7> marc_: view->hidden files or ctrl+h
[10:26] <conrad_> kovecses: further down kirya's page on the link you gave
[10:26] <yan> I have dual Boot: ubuntu [with kde]  and Windows XP, How can I do that the Ubuntu will see my ntfs Drive C: ??
[10:26] <pashaw> ITSa341,   did you read that?
[10:26] <john_> hunger, I mounted the windows server 2003 share using mkdir /mnt/<name-of-mount-point>
[10:26] <conrad_> kovecses: i see no other .deb file otherwise
[10:26] <hunger> john_: So what? So am I (wrt. Samba at least)
[10:27] <john_> then access it
[10:27] <Florob> epix: depends on what those are
[10:27] <chucker> jauregi, lsof could be of help
[10:27] <ITSa341> pashaw   tried those links very carefully more than one time
[10:27] <korptix\a> my friend has iis installed and he cant find hes index.htm can anyone tell me which it is in ?
[10:27] <marc_> Visik7, thanks
[10:27] <ITSa341> they are for older ATI not the IGP
[10:27] <dabaR> ubotu: tell yan about ntfs
[10:27] <conrad_> kovecses: did you sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and then copy and paste the repos at the bottom?
[10:27] <john_> hunger, then mount -t smbfs -o username=<username>,password=<password> //<win-box>/<share> /mnt/<name-of-mountpoint>
[10:27] <korptix\a> ?
[10:27] <pashaw> ITSa341,   ahhh   perhaps google it
[10:27] <hunger> john_: That works? mkdir does create a directory, nothing more.
[10:27] <john_> ^
[10:27] <pashaw> ITSa341, new stuff  can be tricky
[10:27] <BlackEntity> Any suggestions for enabling DMA on 64 bit linux(sempron 3200, ati IXP controller)?
[10:27] <jauregi> thanks chucker
[10:27] <korptix\a> anyone ?
[10:27] <chucker> yw
[10:28] <yan> dabaR 10x:0
[10:28] <alan__> one last dumb question, how can i mount /dev/hda    ???
[10:28] <Kovecses> mount /dev/hda
[10:28] <hunger> john_: Good! Have you tried adding that to /etc/fstab? That is a table which lists all the filesystems the system knows (and only those can be mounted at bootup).
[10:28] <ITSa341> pashaw   tried that also before I came in here bugging people. But, thanks for trying. I can live without 3d acceleration....for now   LOL
[10:28] <Epix> Florob: mouse stays in the top left hand corner.
[10:28] <Kovecses> conrad_, do you see my file offer?
[10:28] <Epix> Florob: and i can click. but its not moving!
[10:28] <korptix\a> ..
[10:28] <dabaR> alan__: it is set into partitions, you will not be mounting hda itself, but one of hdaX
[10:28] <sethk> alan__, typically hda is a partitioned device and you would not mount it
[10:28] <dabaR> alan__: and tell us what is on it.
[10:28] <sethk> alan__, you would mount, say, hda1
[10:28] <BlackEntity> mount /dev/hda -t <FS?> /media/<make a dir here before hand>
[10:29] <alan__> ok im trying
[10:29] <BlackEntity> right my mistake as well
[10:29] <conrad_> kovecses: yes, i have clicked 'accept' but nothing is happening. did youget my quesiton about repos and source list?
[10:29] <hunger> john_: fstab needs exactly the information from your mount command. The formatting is a bit different, but I am sure you can figure it out.
[10:29] <korptix\a> my friend has iis installed and he cant find hes index.htm can anyone tell me which it is in ?
[10:29] <john_> hunger, yes I did but everytime I boot it asks for a password now
[10:29] <dabaR> john_: ya, you would have to add it to fstab to have it always mounted.
[10:29] <y_o_u> hello everyone. ubuntu n00b here, trying to adjust my screen res in 5.04. when i go to system>prefs>screen resolution, nothing happens. anyone able to help? thanks
[10:29] <dabaR> hunger: you did not set it up properly then. There could be a option for a password.
[10:29] <Florob> epix: this can be cause of an attached joystick (happend one time to me), if you don't have one I have no idea
[10:30] <dabaR> hunger: sorry.
[10:30] <john_> maybes i put it in the same format as the mount command?
[10:30] <Kovecses> conrad_, just copied and pasted.... i installed tovid from source so...i dont really no whats the deal
[10:30] <conrad_> kovecses: seems repos is still thebest way to go if i can, because apt-get will take care of dependencies for me
[10:30] <dabaR> john_: ^
[10:30] <hunger> BlackEntity: Do you want to mount the drive?!
[10:30] <john_> mabes its wrong and why I am getting a password request on boot
[10:30] <chucker> y_o_u, what do you mean with "nothing happens"? does a dialog come up at all?
[10:30] <marc_> I officialy have proof that linux is idiot proof.  I can use it.
[10:30] <ITSa341> LOL
[10:30] <yahaa_swe> yan; http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[10:30] <korptix\a> my friend has iis installed and he cant find hes index.htm can anyone tell me which it is in ?
[10:30] <hunger> john_: Read the man page for mount. (man mount in the terminal).
[10:30] <ITSa341> <-- seconds that motion marc_
[10:30] <marc_> lol :)
[10:30] <CFDev> hi
[10:30] <john_> hunger, every time I try to use root i get sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[10:30] <hunger> john_: You can either add a option for the password or use credentials.
[10:30] <john_> could that be cos of earlier network probs I had?
[10:31] <CFDev> i have a problem on my kubuntu system with ColdFusion installation
[10:31] <korptix\a> my friend has iis installed and he cant find hes index.htm can anyone tell me which it is in ?
[10:31] <nalioth> john_: you shouldnt be trying to use root
[10:31] <y_o_u> no, at the bottom, it says "starting screen resolution", but then dissapears, nothing follows
[10:31] <sethk> john_, if you are using nis is would be
[10:31] <korptix\a> for the 5th fkn time
[10:31] <BlackEntity> Ok rebooting trying something I found at the wiki
[10:31] <john_> sudo I mean
[10:31] <pashaw> korptix\a,   spamming gets you ignored and then booted
[10:31] <marc_> Does anyone here use transgaming?  I deleted the .transgaming folder by accident
[10:31] <CFDev> how can i install compat-libstdc++
[10:31] <korptix\a> mate
[10:31] <john_> nis?
[10:31] <nalioth> korptix\a: i believe you want #windows
[10:31] <dabaR> CFDev: is coldfusion a development or web design tool?
[10:31] <korptix\a> u asked 5 times
[10:31] <korptix\a> cheers
[10:31] <marc_> I deleted its content rather
[10:31] <CFDev> i just need compat-libstdc++ on ubuntu
[10:31] <chucker> korptix\a, i would be very interested to know how your friend installed IIS on Linux
[10:31] <Zambba> korptix\a: I think Incredebly Insecure Shit isn't related to Ubuntu
[10:31] <conrad_> kovecses: to be clear(i want to know if i did something different) you copied and pasted the repos on kiryas webiste into gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:31] <john_> well I have lost the ability to access my network config dialog ?
[10:31] <CFDev> there is a warning in installation
[10:31] <sethk> korptix\a, the question makes no sense.  it isn't in a file, it _is_ a file
[10:32] <john_> have something to do with networking died?
[10:32] <Kovecses> conrad_, yes i did
[10:32] <conrad_> kovecses: and then you sudo apt-get install tovid and presto?
[10:32] <CFDev> Warning: C++ compatibility pack
[10:32] <dabaR> korptix\a: ya, isn't iis a windows web server?
[10:32] <y_o_u> any idea on why it would just dissapear? its a clean install
[10:32] <CFDev> rpm --query compat-libstdc++
[10:32] <Kovecses> conrad_, well you need to have libdvdcss2 installed ...then yes apt-get install tovid will work
[10:32] <CFDev> but i want to install with apt-get
[10:32] <sethk> dabaR, it sure is.  And it that doesn't clue us, he said .htm instead of .html
[10:33] <chucker> y_o_u, does it work if you start it as root?
[10:33] <Fanskapet> ahh now it works.. all my scripts.
[10:33] <CFDev> i have searched cache but no such a file
[10:33] <sethk> dabaR, crippled windows syntax
[10:33] <conrad_> kovecses: livdvdcss2 i have already installed. Did you copy and paste both lines of kirya's?
[10:33] <john_> there is definitely something wrong with my networking can I repair or do I need to reinstall?
[10:33] <Fanskapet> nice to have gentoo start my irssi-client on a screen at boot :)
[10:33] <Kovecses> conrad_, yeah but you should not need the src
[10:34] <CFDev> compat-libstdc++ on ubuntu?
[10:34] <y_o_u> that would probably be the reason. as i said, i am a linux noob. how do i specifically start it in root, or logout and then login as root?
[10:34] <dabaR> CFDev: do you need a compat-libstdc++ or a libstdc++?
[10:34] <alan__> the drive i have to add is called hdb2
[10:34] <hunger> CFDev: compat-libstdc++ is some old version of libstdc++.
[10:34] <CFDev> dabaR: it says i need to install  compat-libstdc++
[10:34] <Kovecses> conrad_, and use the command line... syaptic is for pussies
[10:34] <CFDev> i have already libstdc++6
[10:34] <hunger> CFDev: Figure out which one you need and install it.
[10:34] <nalioth> y_o_u: you dont use root at all
[10:35] <dabaR> CFDev: aptitude search libstdc++ in a terminal or use synaptic
[10:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell y_o_u about root
[10:35] <CFDev> but there is no  compat-libstdc++
[10:35] <conrad_> kovecses: should : deb http://packages.kirya.net unstable main contrib non-free - be enough. I am a pussy! : )
[10:35] <marc_> ITSa341, do you have Transgaming?
[10:35] <hunger> CFDev: libstdc++6 is the newest one...
[10:35] <CFDev> i need  compat-libstdc++
[10:35] <CFDev> but how?
[10:35] <Kovecses> conrad_, didnt i already answer that question
[10:35] <pinkisntwell> has anyone had problems with dpms in ubuntu?
[10:35] <Kovecses> conrad_, but yes it should be
[10:36] <Arasmpc> Hi, i'm having trouble with firefox on my work website...I want to view my schedule but it keeps saying the certificate is expired.  Can anyone help me?
[10:36] <CFDev> ah i have installed ubuntu in server mode
[10:36] <hunger> CFDev: compat-libstdc++ is some outdated version of libstdc++. Which one of the outdated versions do you need?
[10:36] <CFDev> not full installation
[10:36] <nalioth> Arasmpc: you should be able to click through the warning
[10:36] <CFDev> here is the error msg: The installer was unable to determine if the C++ compatibility pack is
[10:36] <CFDev> installed by running the following command: rpm --query compat-libstdc++
[10:36] <CFDev> If this machine uses a version of glibc that is 2.2.5.x or higher the
[10:36] <CFDev> compatibility pack is necessary for C++ custom tags, Verity, and web server
[10:36] <CFDev> connectors to work properly.
[10:36] <hunger> CFDev: Which program does need that lib?
[10:36] <crimsun> !tell owner about repos
[10:37] <CFDev> ColdFusion verity support
[10:37] <Arasmpc> I do but then it gives me an error.
[10:37] <pashaw> CFDev,   Dont do that again use pastebin
[10:37] <CFDev> sorry
[10:37] <CFDev> i just want to show the error msg
[10:37] <CFDev> i just need to have compat-libstdc++
[10:37] <pashaw> !tell CFDev about pastebin
[10:37] <CFDev> upps
[10:38] <conrad_> kovecses: can i send you the error
[10:38] <indrek> hey  i hav a question
[10:38] <gnomefreak_away> alt+F2 during install will it give me ther errors or will i have to type something to see the errors?
[10:38] <marc_> Does anyone here use Cedega?  I lost the contents of my .transgaming folder
[10:38] <Kovecses> conrad_, sure
[10:38] <conrad_> kovecses: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://packages.kirya.net unstable/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/packages.kirya.net_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[10:38] <hunger> CFDev: Dunno whether there are still those really ancient versions of glibc around in ubuntu...
[10:39] <dabaR> !cedega
[10:39] <ubotu> methinks cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[10:39] <nalioth> CFDev: please read the /topic and use a pastebin
[10:39] <marc_> !cedega
[10:39] <CFDev> the other question is about XLib support. I just need to have X libraries without installing all X Windows
[10:39] <Kovecses> conrad_, you didnt apt-get update
[10:39] <conrad_> aha
[10:39] <yahaa_swe> OMG, the folks in the #windows channel is easily teased :D
[10:39] <CFDev> this is my firs time here. really sorry!
[10:39] <Kovecses> noobs
[10:39] <nalioth> conrad_: you are using non official repos. this may cause your ubuntu to stop functioning properly
[10:39] <nalioth> Kovecses: please be civil.
[10:39] <concept10> What do you guys use to watch Quicktime 7 streaming giles
[10:39] <concept10> *files?
[10:39] <trappist> mplayer
[10:39] <Kovecses> nalioth, how was i not civil
[10:39] <Seveas> concept10, mplayer
[10:39] <conrad_> nalioth: but it is working for kovecses
[10:40] <CFDev> i thought that irc would be a better alternative for quick answer
[10:40] <nalioth> Kovecses: 'noobs' is derogatory
[10:40] <Kovecses> nalioth, oh come on
[10:40] <marc_> #cedega
[10:40] <marc_> whops
[10:40] <CFDev> but here is lots of conversation and i could not explain my problem
[10:40] <Seveas> Kovecses: Please keep the code of conduct in mind when chatting here. You can find it at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[10:40] <ompaul> Kovecses, have a look at the CoC
[10:40] <gnomefreak_away> !coc
[10:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, conduct is the Ubuntu Code of Conduct, to which we ask all Ubuntu users to follow. You can find the Code of Conduct at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[10:40] <gnomefreak_away> :)
[10:40] <dabaR> CFDev: aptitude search libstdc++ is the faster alternative
[10:40] <ompaul> Kovecses, Seveas just gave you a link
[10:41] <trappist> ack, I need to fix that definition
[10:41] <Kovecses> ive read the code of conduct..... doesnt seem to mention the word noob
[10:41] <y_o_u> what program do i need to run in 5.04 to change to screen res? when i go to system>prefs>screen resolution, nothing happens. i know I can add "sudo" to run something in root, but what do i run? thanks
[10:41] <hunger> dabaR: He will need libc5... Haven't seen that around:-(
[10:41] <pashaw> CFDev,   this a clean Ubuntu install?
[10:41] <CFDev> i have two problem: 1. compat-libstdc++
[10:41] <CFDev> yeps but in server mode
[10:41] <gnomefreak_away> thanks ompaul  :)
[10:41] <Seveas> Kovecses, but it does mention being civil
[10:41] <CFDev> 2. xlibraries support without all xwindows
[10:41] <ompaul> Kovecses, it is an attitude of mind more than a This word good that word bad :)
[10:41] <superchode|fu> any known issues installing ubuntu on a VIA EPIA mini-atx board?
[10:41] <indrek> i cant listan to the music  whit  my linux
[10:41] <dabaR> CFDev: make sure you add all the possible repos. In the case you really like to find out about package availability through IRC, use /msg ubotu find keyword.
[10:41] <Kovecses> is that the word of the day
[10:41] <ITSa341> Anyone know of a program comparable to MS Streets and Trips with GPS support that will run on Linux??
[10:41] <ITSa341> I'm trying to go 100% MS free on this laptop but I use MS Streets and Trips daily
[10:41] <ZeroIRC> Hey, how do I setup Sendmail?
[10:41] <concept10> Quicktime 7 eats me up, mplayer, totem and vlc will not handle streams from Apple
[10:41] <john_> can anyone help please, when I log in to ubuntu I get this message: Could not look up internet address for ubuntu.
[10:41] <john_> This will prevent GNOME from operating correctly.
[10:41] <john_> It may be possible to correct the problem by adding
[10:41] <john_> ubuntu to the file /etc/hosts.
[10:41] <trappist> ah, grammatical horror removed from the coc definition.
[10:42] <pashaw> CFDev,   ill have to try that sometime  why does it ask you to query using rpm
[10:42] <dabaR> !enter
[10:42] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[10:42] <conrad_> hey people can you please not throw the book at kavecses. He was the only one willing to help and i did not find him uncivil
[10:42] <nalioth> john_: please dont paste
[10:42] <superchode|fu> it's telling me the bios is messed and won't install, but memtest seems happy
[10:42] <Kovecses> i wast being disrespectful
[10:42] <CFDev> because ubuntu is not supported as default
[10:42] <alan__> how do you mount a harddrive that you know the name eg: hdb2 i see it but cant seem to mount it
[10:42] <Kovecses> i was kidding around
[10:42] <dabaR> Kovecses: move on.
[10:42] <conrad_> nalioth: are you the police?
[10:42] <CFDev> default support is for redhat and suse
[10:42] <CFDev> i am trying to install on a ubuntu server
[10:42] <pashaw> !tell john_ about pastebin
[10:42] <Kovecses> you guys are so anal
[10:42] <trappist> alan__: mkdir foo && sudo mount /dev/hdb2 foo
[10:42] <ompaul> Kovecses, lets get on with the game shall we
[10:42] <ompaul> ohh well too late
[10:42] <Seveas> ompaul, by all menas
[10:42] <alan__> thx trap
[10:42] <Seveas> means even
[10:42] <nalioth> Kovecses: ok. just please note that some words you may find simple and non insulting, there are some that might.
[10:43] <cowbud> is there a website where one can see what latest debs got accepted in to dapper? accepted/uploaded..
[10:43] <conrad_> is this the thought police here?
[10:43] <Seveas> cowbud, check the ubuntu-changes mailinglist
[10:43] <pashaw> CFDev,   install what?
[10:43] <Seveas> cowbud, or the accompanying RSS feed
[10:43] <dabaR> Kovecses: and just read the critic and move on. No unnecessary discussion, see how the channel is moving too fast already.
[10:43] <CFDev> coldfusion installation
[10:43] <cowbud> Seveas: thanks
[10:43] <CFDev> Macromedia ColdFusion
[10:43] <gerald-volt> how do I lock my desktop
[10:43] <ZeroIRC> Hello?
[10:43] <y_o_u> anyone here willing to help a noob with a screen res problem?
[10:43] <trappist> gerald-volt: xlock
[10:43] <alan__> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[10:43] <hunger> CFDev: compat-* usually referes to glibc2.2 (libc5). Ubuntu does not support that ancient piece of code AFAIK. I am afraid you are out of luck. But maybe someone else knows better then me.
[10:43] <pashaw> CFDev,     your question never said anything about that
[10:43] <Seveas> gerald-volt, system -> lock screen
[10:43] <Knowerrors> Is there any talk of making a hardware/setup center similar in function to Drakeconfig or Yast for Ubuntu in future?
[10:43] <trappist> !tell y_o_u about fixres
[10:44] <dabaR> hunger: there is a libstdc++5 in the repos.
[10:44] <nalioth> john_: i can help you in #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:44] <pashaw> CFDev,   theres your problem not supported in Ubuntu    we cant fix it
[10:44] <CFDev> do you think installation of RPMS would be solution
[10:44] <Seveas> Knowerrors, fortunately not, Ubuntu is about making things work and not about users having to fumble around with it
[10:44] <trappist> CFDev: no
[10:44] <CFDev> i know i do not ask coldfusion part
[10:44] <y_o_u> thanks
[10:44] <ZeroIRC> Can someone please help me?
[10:44] <CFDev> i just want to get help for a library
[10:44] <hunger> dabaR: Yes... but that is build against libc6... and thus won't work.
[10:44] <alan__> trappist it said i must specify filesystem type
[10:44] <dabaR> ZeroIRC: did you ask a question?
[10:44] <ZeroIRC> Hey, how do I setup Sendmail?
[10:44] <ZeroIRC> yea
[10:45] <trappist> alan__: do you know what kind of filesystem is on that device?  usually mount can guess if it's a supported fs
[10:45] <Arasmpc> it says blah blah using ocsp - unauthorized request  someone at work said I needed to add a new certificate but she uses windows and IE so it's not the same.  I tried to go into the certificate manager but it only searches my computer not the web...
[10:45] <CFDev> how can i have compat-libstdc++ support on ubuntu
[10:45] <CFDev> that was the question
[10:45] <pashaw> CFDev,   they already told you its outdated which prob means not gunna happen
[10:45] <Seveas> ZeroIRC, hehe, read the documentation, seriously. sendmail is a beast :)
[10:45] <hunger> CFDev: The best (and probably least doable) solution would be to get the vendor of your software to rebuild it against recent libraries.
[10:45] <alan__> its a kbuntu install with lots of music
[10:45] <dabaR> ZeroIRC: however you want to. sudo dpkg-reconfigure sendmail
[10:45] <ZeroIRC> Is there a better smtp server?
[10:45] <Knowerrors> Seveas: thats an important feature, for the times when things just don't work auto or are not configured right, thats unfortunate
[10:45] <CFDev> you know this is not an opportunity now
[10:45] <Seveas> ZeroIRC, postfix, courier
[10:46] <CFDev> and this is a general problem
[10:46] <Vectra> como fao pra mudar minha senha do root????
[10:46] <Seveas> Vectra, this is an english channel
[10:46] <ZeroIRC> Seveas, Which is better?
[10:46] <Knowerrors> at least for newbies who don't want to mess with CLI alot or editing text config files
[10:46] <CFDev> anyway you do not know this question
[10:46] <Vectra> ok
[10:46] <crimsun> CFDev: which version does it require?
[10:46] <CFDev> the other one
[10:46] <ompaul> ZeroIRC, have a look at postfix - it beats sendmail hands down
[10:46] <ZeroIRC> ok
[10:46] <Seveas> Vectra, #ubuntu-br for brazilian
[10:46] <ZeroIRC> Thanks ompaul
[10:46] <CFDev> hoc can i install XLIBraries for graphing support for a J2EE server
[10:46] <crimsun> CFDev: you can install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 if it's looking for that.
[10:46] <indrek> enyone  who knows about ubantu linux  i hav  a quastion deemet:P
[10:46] <ZeroIRC> Do I need to download it?
[10:46] <ompaul> ZeroIRC, unless you have tens of thousands of users
[10:46] <crimsun> CFDev: and which X libraries?
[10:47] <ompaul> and even then it is debatable
[10:47] <hunger> CFDev: apt-get install xlibs
[10:47] <koro> I have language set to spanish, locale set to es_AR.UTF-8 and i have the problem that filenames whith accents show up wrong either in shell or in the gnome file manager (the latter adds a message "invalid encoding" after the filename in those cases). What can I do about that?
[10:47] <ZeroIRC> ompaul, Do I need to download it, or does Ubuntu have it somewhere?
[10:47] <CFDev> i need xorg-x11-depreceated-libs
[10:47] <hunger> CFDev: That gives a fairly complete "xlibs" install... you might need to add others, but you should be set for the most things.
[10:47] <nem> ZeroIRC, get it via synaptic or apt-get if it's not installed
[10:47] <dabaR> koro: asked in #ubuntu-es?
[10:48] <koro> dabaR: yeah
[10:48] <ompaul> ZeroIRC, well you download it for ubuntu - it is on the CD also >>sudo apt-get install postfix<<
[10:48] <ZeroIRC> thanks nem
[10:48] <koro> no replies at all, i think i have more chances here, since this may be a problem with other languages probably
[10:48] <ZeroIRC> thanks alot you guys
[10:48] <CFDev> i just need xorg-x11-deprecated-libs
[10:48] <indrek> help   enyone  can i talk whit someone smart in  private ?
[10:48] <dabaR> and sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales? you want the utf-8 version of your locale installed.
[10:49] <koro> yeah, i did that
[10:49] <ompaul> !anyone
[10:49] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."   Fascist anal thought police.  Some power trip you're on. Enjoy it while it lasts
[10:49] <CFDev> can i copy paste technote page here for error msg
[10:49] <CFDev> just url
[10:49] <CFDev> http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=b4818c0d
[10:49] <MickMcMack> O_o;
[10:49] <koro> Florob: i don't recall seeing those in locales, but i'll check
[10:50] <greenpenguin13> its the day of the bannings...
[10:50] <Seveas> yeah
[10:50] <Seveas> and apparently the day of the trolls too
[10:50] <Seveas> i thought they would be gone after christma
[10:50] <Seveas> s
[10:50] <greenpenguin13> oh well :-p
[10:50] <indrek> kurat kas keegi siin eestikeelt kaa rgib we
[10:50] <dabaR> haha.
[10:50] <crimsun> oh man, you missed last night, dennis
[10:50] <Florob> koro: maybe i just made it up, but I believe it myself ;)
[10:51] <hunger> CFDev: I'd strongly recommend using one of the OSes supported by marcomedia!
[10:51] <Seveas> indrek, please stick to english in here
[10:51] <Seveas> crimsun, that tone suggests that i didn't miss a thing :)
[10:51] <CFDev> thanks for your support on a ubuntu room :)
[10:51] <ZeroIRC> Ok, I did sudo apt-get install postfix and it said
[10:51] <ZeroIRC> postfix is already the newest version.
[10:51] <ZeroIRC> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:51] <crimsun> Seveas: hehe
[10:51] <koro> Florob: yeah, i only see UTF or ISO
[10:51] <CFDev> i have normally debian for all of my servers
[10:51] <dabaR> ZeroIRC: ya, it comes with ubuntu
[10:51] <CFDev> but this time i am just trying to install ubuntu
[10:51] <hunger> CFDev: Even though there support seems to suck (or why else are they requireing lots of compat/deprecated libs?).
[10:52] <ZeroIRC> So, how do I use it, or config it?
[10:52] <indrek> kindlasti ma rgin  siin inglise keeles mu l  abi vaja see linux ei saa sellega ju musa kuulata
[10:52] <CFDev> this is not because of macromedia this is because of VERITY which is a bundled search engine
[10:52] <koro> Florob: oh, curiously, when it lets me choose the default one, it does give the option "es_AR" without any extension
[10:52] <koro> i'm trying that
[10:52] <ompaul> Seveas, seems some of them got it a little wrong "it is the season to be trolled" seems to be the motto
[10:52] <hunger> CFDev: If you insist on using ubuntu, then grab the RPMS and check what they contain and install the proper ubuntu packages that provide that stuff.
[10:52] <dabaR> indrek: we do not understand that language at all. Please ask your question in english, we wil try to answer.
[10:52] <indrek> kas keegi oskab eesti keelt
[10:53] <indrek> i need hlp
[10:53] <Seveas> indrek, last time: stick to english
[10:53] <indrek> help
[10:53] <CFDev> so i am just trying to get a quick solution by asking here
[10:53] <dabaR> indrek: we need your question to help
[10:53] <Seveas> and just tell what you need help with
[10:53] <greenpenguin13> which langage us that ? :/
[10:53] <CFDev> of course i know i can check all these rpms etc.
[10:53] <dabaR> probably turkish.
[10:53] <Seveas> greenpenguin13, estonian I guess :)
[10:53] <ompaul> indrek, ask your question
[10:53] <kemik> hungarian ?
[10:53] <indrek> i cant listan to music
[10:53] <CFDev> Trkce?
[10:53] <kemik> or finnihs
[10:53] <dabaR> ya:) everyone has his idea.
[10:53] <hunger> CFDev: You won't. Nobody here knows how redhat packages its stuff...
[10:53] <kemik> finnish
[10:53] <Seveas> !tell indrek about mp3
[10:53] <dabaR> indrek: what, mp3 files?
[10:53] <MrMaDSeN> who wrote Lords of the rings.. the triology?
[10:53] <Arasmpc> :( yes I am a "noob" but if not I wouldn't need your help.    Now will you please help me?  I just want to be able to find out what time to go to work tommorrow.
[10:53] <trappist> MrMaDSeN: tolkien
[10:53] <Seveas> MrMaDSeN, no offtopicness in here
[10:54] <CFDev> speak for yourself
[10:54] <trappist> and that
[10:54] <greenpenguin13> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:54] <nem> ZeroIRC, you won't get around reading the postfix docs. configure via dpkg-reconfigure postfix i'd say.
[10:54] <dabaR> Arasmpc: what? did you ask a question?
[10:54] <CFDev> hunger: i think you need a hamburger
[10:54] <indrek> seveas  can i talk pivate?
[10:54] <ompaul> indrek, read the instrctions the bot send you
[10:54] <ZeroIRC> thanks
[10:54] <sethk> Arasmpc, I don't see a question from you
[10:54] <dabaR> indrek: just talk in here, we are all friends...
[10:54] <yahaa_swe> This one aint Linux specific but anyway; it is possible to set up a server when you have a dynamic ip?
[10:54] <pashaw> indrek,   language?
[10:54] <Arasmpc> yes, I was trying to findout how to get a new certificate
[10:54] <kemik> yahaa_swe:  yes
[10:54] <trappist> yahaa_swe: yes, check out dyndns.org
[10:54] <Seveas> Arasmpc, what kind of certificate?
[10:54] <cowbud> yahaa_swe: sure there are lots of dyn services..
[10:54] <dabaR> yahaa_swe: and ez-ipupdate
[10:55] <cowbud> no-ip.com
[10:55] <indrek> sorry i am estonian :P
[10:55] <Seveas> ha, I win :)
[10:55] <Arasmpc> I use a secure server to access my work info
[10:55] <yahaa_swe> ok, thx all!
[10:55] <gerald-volt> what program is good for downloading music
[10:55] <Arasmpc> it says my certificate is expired
[10:55] <CFDev> thanks for your help i will try also forums :)
[10:55] <dabaR> no need to be sorry cause you are estonian, just ask, and answer questions, and read the web pages you are referred to.
[10:55] <kemik> it looked like finnish.. estonia-n is sortof the same ;)
[10:55] <hunger> CFDev: The necessary stuff might be in ubuntu (but frankly I doubt it), but you won't find it without some pretty good knowledge of what is needed (i.e. what redhat packaged).
[10:55] <koro> Florob: heh, i don't know if it's an improvement... now instead of showing a "?" sign where an accented character is, it shows nothing :)
[10:55] <Seveas> Arasmpc, probably it says that the server certificate expired
[10:55] <CFDev> i have already explained but ...
[10:55] <CFDev> anyway...
[10:55] <Arasmpc> I tried to go into the manage certificates thing but it just searches my computer
[10:55] <Seveas> you should probably just ignore that erros
[10:55] <dabaR> Seveas: you win?
[10:55] <Arasmpc> yes seveas
[10:56] <Seveas> dabaR, I said estonian ;)
[10:56] <dabaR> ah, ya.
[10:56] <indrek> but  i kant lisen to the music in internet  at www.uno.ee  and  there are no sounds at all ..and speaker logo  has x onit
[10:56] <dabaR> well, you are closest to there.
[10:56] <Arasmpc> I click ok, but then it still gives me an error and then the site doesn't work
[10:56] <sethk> indrek, then unmute
[10:56] <dabaR> Arasmpc: that is not related to you, it is the server has an old certificate
[10:56] <Seveas> Arasmpc, what is the error then?
[10:56] <Florob> koro: maybe a font problem, but i have no idea how to solve this if I'm honest
[10:56] <gerald-volt> whats a good p2p program for mp3's
[10:56] <ompaul> yahaa_swe, yes but rules apply like the box must be on the internet or have its packets forwarded to there, search for "dnamic dns" for more info
[10:56] <dabaR> Arasmpc: tell the page when asking a question like that.
[10:56] <indrek> i cant thats the problem
[10:56] <Arasmpc> oh, but a girl at work said she had to change something but she uses IE
[10:56] <dabaR> gerald-volt: I like gtk-gnutella
[10:57] <Arasmpc> the page?
[10:57] <dabaR> Arasmpc: tell us the URL...
[10:57] <Arasmpc> oh hold on
[10:57] <Seveas> Arasmpc, please give some real info like the complete error or screenshots of the errors you get
[10:57] <jordo23> gerald-volt: I use azureus to download full albums
[10:57] <dabaR> indrek: not all pages work in GNU/Linux cause of stupid ideas to use stupid technology by the web site creators.
[10:58] <Seveas> s!GNU/Linux!non-ie browsers!
[10:58] <trappist> well there are also linux-specific issues, like shockwave
[10:58] <hunger> dabaR: BUt now that Microsoft is after the web develeopers to not do that since it breaks their new IE things will improve:-)
[10:58] <niffe> how do i remove firefox deer park?
[10:59] <Seveas> niffe, make uninstall
[10:59] <trappist> niffe: how did you install it
[10:59] <indrek> but my computer dosn't make a sound at all
[10:59] <Seveas> niffe, tip: if you don't know how to remove things, don't install them.
[11:00] <Arasmpc> it says psnwb200.jcpenney.com using ocsp - unauthorized request.
[11:00] <Arasmpc> I don't know how to do a screenshot...sorry
[11:00] <pashaw> indrek,  no sound  ignore webpage then     type lspci      find multimedia device
[11:00] <niffe> trappist: .deb
[11:00] <alan__> http://pastebin.com/480770  shows my drives and im trying to reover the files on hdb2   but i cant seem to access it
[11:00] <trappist> niffe: apt-get remove
[11:00] <dabaR> Arasmpc: what is the URL you type into the browser, is it that thing above?
[11:00] <hunger> alan__: hdb2 is an extended partition.
[11:01] <niffe> trappist: well, i tryed that, then i apt-get install firefox and again that deer park
[11:01] <Florob> indrek, maybe mixer-applet trys to control the wrong channel/soundcard?
[11:01] <hunger> alan__: That means it contains other partitions.
[11:01] <alan__> hunger which of those partions has the info?
[11:01] <trappist> niffe: rm /var/cache/apt/archives/firefox* and try again
[11:01] <yahaa_swe> Follow up question; no-ip.com seems to be nice, anyone who have tested their free service?
[11:01] <hunger> alan__: Your data should be in hdb5.
[11:01] <indrek> and it  sayes     that  (deem i dont know hou to speak in english im estonian after all) but  it sayes that no devices were found if i klik the  speaker loggo
[11:01] <alan__> okay
[11:01] <alan__> thanks im trying
[11:01] <ara> can someone here help a very biginner (me) please?
[11:01] <Arasmpc> it used to say this Network Error (ssl_domain_invalid) but then I turned on ocsp
[11:01] <ZeroIRC> yahaa_swe, They are really good
[11:01] <dabaR> !helpme
[11:01] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:01] <hunger> alan__: BUT that is a LVM volume... so that contains even more partitions...
[11:02] <Arasmpc> https://jcpdmz1.jcpenney.com/associateinformation.asp I access the page through this
[11:02] <hunger> alan__: Do "/etc/init.d/lvm" as root.
[11:02] <vaticano> how paint arroba? in consol???
[11:02] <hunger> alan__: That will create devices in /dev/mapper.
[11:02] <Florob> indrek: what does "aplay -l" tell you
[11:02] <do_while> hi
[11:02] <do_while> somebody runs ubuntu over eMac
[11:02] <do_while> ?
[11:02] <Arasmpc> it turns into https://jcpdmz1.jcpenney.com/associateinformation.asp
[11:02] <hunger> alan__: One of those should contain the actual data.
[11:02] <alan__> ... setting up...  etc  okay
[11:02] <yahaa_swe> ZeroIRC, ok think i gonna try them
[11:02] <pashaw> indrek,  is your language closer to any of these  middle of page  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[11:03] <alan__> hunger how can i check now?
[11:03] <alan__> thx for the help btw
[11:03] <hunger> alan__: "lvdisplay" gives a list of logical volumes.
[11:03] <Arasmpc> then this https://pshrwb200.jcpenney.com:7401/psp/hcm/EMPLOYEE/HRMS/h/?tab=DEFAULT
[11:03] <hunger> alan__: Figure out which one could contain your data.
[11:03] <Arasmpc> so the url changes
[11:04] <indrek> deem  quess im going to install windows again  linux is nt  for mee nothing in it  does not work
[11:04] <alan__> http://pastebin.com/480778  is what it said
[11:04] <alan__> okay
[11:04] <pashaw> indrek,   good luck
[11:04] <dabaR> Arasmpc: it is some asp m$ thing, I do not know, I know I can not access my paycheck site on browsers other than IE.
[11:04] <Arasmpc> of course they don't have any support and NOONE at work knows anything at all
[11:04] <do_while> hi
[11:04] <do_while> somebody runs ubuntu over eMac
[11:04] <do_while> ?
[11:04] <sophtpaw> anyone help me with mplayer? apt-get couldn't resolve dependency issues. any suggestions?
[11:05] <dabaR> indrek: try to find a local linux user group to ask them questions.
[11:05] <sagarp> i got a new 250gb sata drive..previously i had a 160gb..130 for storage (fat32) and 30 for linux..does anyone have any suggestions how i should partition the new one together with the old one? i'd rather not have to span my storage across the two drives..=/ and i dont want to waste any space!
[11:05] <hunger> alan__: I'd go for /dev/Ubuntu/root.
[11:05] <Arasmpc> darn...so there is no way to find a new certificate then?
[11:05] <hunger> alan__: Do you know which filesystem was used?
[11:05] <alan__> hunger do i mount that?
[11:05] <dabaR> Arasmpc: what is the exact message you get?
[11:05] <alan__> im not sure
[11:05] <hunger> alan__: Try "mount -t ext2 -o ro /dev/Ubuntu/root /some/dir"
[11:05] <dabaR> Arasmpc: dont paste here if it is long, please.
[11:05] <indrek> never mind   im going  windows rules:P
[11:05] <Florob> sophtpaw, from which repository did you try to install it?
[11:05] <dontblink> hey, just installed ubuntu, and i get to the screen where it is loading devices/drivers, and it hangs at the hotplug subsystem
[11:05] <alan__> its a kbuntu linux partition
[11:05] <dabaR> heh
[11:06] <Arasmpc> ok hold on I'll do it again
[11:06] <dontblink> just leaves it blank and then gives me a black screen with a cursor at the top left
[11:06] <sophtpaw> Florob: i wouldn't know. i used synaptic.
[11:06] <do_while> somebody runs ubuntu over eMac??
[11:06] <Knowerrors> Whats best program/way to backup my root partition to a dvd?
[11:06] <Arasmpc> Network Error (ssl_domain_invalid)
[11:06] <dabaR> dontblink: is that computer right beside you?
[11:06] <alan__> hunger do i actually type in some dir or use a real one?
[11:06] <hunger> alan__: It is most probably an ext3 filesystem then... use -o ro to mount it readonly (just to make sure you do not accidentally damage your data).
[11:06] <trappist> dontblink: it sounds like X is failing to start
[11:06] <dabaR> dontblink: hehe, I know why you have that nick now.
[11:06] <hunger> alan__: You use a real (and preferably empty) one.
[11:07] <gerald-volt> iin a config file where I have to specify a directory in quotes, how does the syntax go if my dir path has a space in it
[11:07] <dontblink> trappist: any solution?
[11:07] <Seveas> Arasmpc, that looks like something VERY specific to your work server, better assk the admins there
[11:07] <Florob> sophtpaw, so which dependancys could not be found?
[11:07] <trappist> dontblink: depends on the problem.  is this a new install? did you do something just before this started? etc.
[11:07] <dontblink> dabar: lol what are you talking about
[11:07] <gerald-volt> for example
[11:07] <gerald-volt> "/media/windows/Documents and Settings"
[11:07] <dabaR> gerald-volt: try blah\ and\ blah
[11:07] <trappist> gerald-volt: Documents\ and\ Settings
[11:07] <dontblink> trappist: um, new install, just d/l the latest version and burned it, then installed (i had the setup format the drive for me)
[11:08] <Arasmpc> ok...thanks anyhow.  Maybe I can get it fixed tommorrow when my hubby has time.  Again thank you for your time.
[11:08] <dabaR> is that computer beside you, dontblink ?
[11:08] <hunger> alan__: Does it work?
[11:08] <dabaR> welcome.
[11:08] <trappist> dontblink: step 1: choose failsafe at the grub prompt
[11:08] <ara> can someone do instant chat to me please? i have some questions
[11:08] <dontblink> dabar:yeah, lol
[11:08] <trappist> dontblink: so at least you'll have a usable console
[11:08] <sophtpaw> Florob: libribidi0; libgcc1;  libjack0
[11:08] <niffe> trappist: no help :/ but when im removing it with apt-get it says Removing firefox ...
[11:08] <Florob> sophtpaw: BTW if you used synaptic, why is it apt-get that can't resolve the dependancy issues
[11:08] <niffe> find: warning: you have specified the -depth option after a non-option argument -type, but options are not positional (-depth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified after it).  Please specify options before other arguments. and when i type firefox in the console, it starts the deerpark edition
[11:08] <trappist> ara: nobody's going to volunteer to help you in private without even knowing the problem
[11:08] <sophtpaw> libstdc++6  ftoo
[11:08] <pashaw> ara,   ask here it may help other people
[11:08] <dabaR> dontblink: well, ya, then do alt+ctrl+f1.
[11:08] <dontblink> trappist: alright, working on it....
[11:09] <dontblink> dabar: then that gets you a console
[11:09] <alan__> hunger not yet keeps saying erron for mount -t ext2 -o ro /dev/Ubuntu/root /some/dir
[11:09] <dabaR> dontblink: it does? then you have to install the drivers for your ati/nvidia.
[11:09] <sophtpaw> florob: same thing isn't it? I understand syanptic simply to be the front end (gui) for apt-get. Have i got that wrong?
[11:09] <hunger> alan__: What kind of error?
[11:09] <dabaR> wtheck is up with there beign 2 graphs card manufacturers?
[11:09] <odat> any opinions about xine vs VLC ?
[11:09] <dabaR> I mean, only 2.
[11:09] <do_while> somebody runs ubuntu over eMac
[11:09] <do_while> ?
[11:09] <trappist> dabaR: there's more than two
[11:09] <dabaR> ya?
[11:10] <trappist> dabaR: a lot more
[11:10] <dabaR> do_while: ask your question.
[11:10] <ara> i'm trying to install a software, on the terminal window it says "permission denied" and when i use "Sudo" command it says command to found, what should i do?
[11:10] <dabaR> trappist: I mean, for a non-onboard graphs card.
[11:10] <alan__> hunger  http://pastebin.com/480786
[11:10] <dontblink> trappist:okay, got the ctrl+alt+f1 thing...am i in the right place?
[11:10] <Florob> sophtpaw: well they seem to use the same library or something, but actually I have no idea about there inner working, but apt-get is defnitly not equal synaptic
[11:10] <dabaR> ara: it is sudo, not Sudo
[11:10] <dabaR> dontblink: what is the graphs card you have?
[11:10] <trappist> dontblink: if that got you to a console login, yes
[11:10] <ara> that's what i type
[11:10] <pashaw> ara,    what software using what command
[11:11] <sophtpaw> florob: well neither can install mplayer
[11:11] <alan__> hunger when i do ext3 on that command it agve no error
[11:11] <dabaR> sophtpaw: did you add multiverse?
[11:11] <ara> what software i'm trying to install you mean?
[11:11] <dabaR> !mplayer
[11:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:11] <dontblink> dabar:i dont really know, some old 32mb one just testing ubuntu out
[11:11] <hunger> alan__: Good. Do you see your files in /some/dir now?
[11:11] <alan__> hunger thanks alot
[11:11] <do_while> dabaR gnome it's biggest than monitor
[11:11] <dabaR> dontblink: well, find out.
[11:11] <do_while> i not see complety menu bar
[11:11] <hunger> alan__: You are welcome.
[11:11] <dabaR> do_while: what, your resolution?
[11:11] <Florob> sophtpaw, did you add anything to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[11:11] <alan__> yes !!  but now can i see them in konqueror as well?
[11:12] <pashaw> ara,   yes
[11:12] <do_while> 1280
[11:12] <sophtpaw> dabaR: as far as i know i've got everything jacked up. including multiverse, yes
[11:12] <ara> i'm trying to do real player
[11:12] <trappist> dabaR: check out matrox
[11:12] <dabaR> do_while: well, then, adjust your monitor for one, and for two, visit http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:12] <odat> xine vs vlc?  trying to decide
[11:12] <dontblink> trappist:i pressed ctrl+alt+f1 and the screen changed, and it proceeded to run through the processes/drivers loading again
[11:12] <sophtpaw> florob: yes, but i've removed it
[11:12] <hunger> alan__: This logical volume management thingy is really cool sometimes, even though I bet it confused the hell out of you today;-) Don't give up on it.
[11:12] <pashaw> !tell ara about realplayer
[11:12] <do_while> thanks dabaR
[11:12] <dabaR> sophtpaw: then "aptitude search mplayer"
[11:12] <trappist> dontblink: try ctrl-alt-f2
[11:13] <Florob> sophtpaw: could you put it in the pastebin
[11:13] <dontblink> trappist:will do.
[11:13] <dabaR> sophtpaw: if it returns results, install the one for your computer, and if it does not, then add multiverse.
[11:13] <dontblink> trappist:ctrl-alt-f2 does nothing
[11:13] <alan__> hunger im very thankful.. im just wondering do i need to move the files i now see in command line or can i get konqueror to mount that drive?
[11:14] <dabaR> alan__: konqueror will do if you will copy the files. to move, you would have to use sudo, or a graphical front-end equal
[11:14] <hunger> alan__: Point konqueror to /some/dir
[11:14] <odat> anyone?
[11:14] <hunger> alan__: That should give you the list of files right now.
[11:14] <alan__> ok i'll try
[11:15] <hunger> alan__: Or do you want access to those files permanently?
[11:15] <pashaw> odat,   i have bith
[11:15] <alan__> yes i want to move them onto my harddrive
[11:15] <dabaR> odat: your question is not good. SOme people like this some that, that is why both those programs exist. Noqw go try one, and then try the other, and come tell us which one you should have chosen.
[11:15] <pashaw> odat,   err both installed
[11:15] <dabaR> alan__: copying will do, really. you have no need for moving them.
[11:16] <john_> anyone know how to add ubuntu to the /etc/hosts file?
[11:16] <alan__> whats the copy directory ?
[11:16] <alan__> command
[11:16] <hunger> alan__: cp
[11:16] <odat> dabaR, k i have vlc installed and i like it but if i try to install xine it wants to uninstall gstreamer and well i want to keep it i think that is why i came here because if xine is a lot better than i'll check it out  its called opinions and i was looking for some sheesh
[11:17] <Florob> john_, have you tried adding it to the /etc/hosts file?
[11:17] <john_> how do I add it tho?
[11:17] <john_> what do I add?
[11:17] <hunger> john_ Is there a line starting with <IP_ADDRESS>?
[11:17] <john_> the word "ubuntu"?
[11:17] <sophtpaw> florob: thank you
[11:17] <pashaw> john_,   huh?   <IP_ADDRESS>       localhost.localdomain   localhost  is your ubuntu
[11:17] <john_> no there is northing
[11:17] <sophtpaw> dabaR: thank you
[11:17] <sophtpaw> thanks guys
[11:18] <alan__> whats the paste command for after?
[11:18] <john_> the only line I have is # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[11:18] <hunger> johnm: Add a line reading "<IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost" then.
[11:18] <pashaw> john_,    type  cat /etc/hosts      first line
[11:18] <Florob> soptpaw, so how did you solve your problem?
[11:18] <dontblink> Are there any typical reasons for it to hang at the Hotplug Subsystem loading?
[11:19] <john_> pashaw, is that it, is the word ubuntu not int here at all?
[11:19] <dabaR> alan__: "man cp" use konqueror, and browse to the folder where you mounted the drive.
[11:19] <ElitePete> i notice in Gparted i have a partition /dev/sda2/ it's "extended" what does this mean exactly?
[11:19] <tata> hola
[11:19] <dabaR> hola tata
[11:19] <pashaw> john_,   did you "name" your computer ubuntu  or a diff name
[11:19] <tata> tata
[11:19] <trappist> dontblink: do you have any notable devices plugged into, say, a usb slot that it could be hanging up on?
[11:19] <john_> ubuntu i believe
[11:19] <hunger> ElitePete: HDs in DOS were limited to 4 partitions.
[11:19] <Florob> john_, which pc do you want to add to your hosts file exactly? and what does that have to do with ubuntu
[11:20] <pashaw> john_,    what word it at the END of the first line  thats what you named your computer
[11:20] <Kumo> hi, does anybody know about that message of illegal instruction? it's what I can read after closing down suddenly some programs
[11:20] <ElitePete> hunger, ?
[11:20] <dabaR> Seveas: it was you all the time? I had no idea, the z was tricky...
[11:20] <john_> pashaw, so  cat /etc/hosts on the first line and 127....etc on the 2nd line?
[11:20] <hunger> ElitePete: To get around that limit "extended" partitions were invented: They can contain additional partiotions.
[11:20] <dontblink> trappist:no, unfortunately.  I have a pci and an onboard video, although the latter is disabled.  Could that be the problem?
[11:20] <Seveas> dabaR, yes, all 5 seconds :)
[11:20] <ElitePete> hunger, ahh i want to add a partition for storing some things, how do i do this in gparted ?
[11:20] <trappist> dontblink: I wouldn't think so, but it's not impossible
[11:20] <dabaR> Pygi: welcome
[11:20] <john_> pashaw, so change localhost to ubuntu?
[11:20] <pashaw> john_,   make the window  full screen  to read it bettwer
[11:21] <pashaw> john_,   dont change anything
[11:21] <john_> it is
[11:21] <john_> ok
[11:21] <pashaw> john_,   what are you trying to do
[11:21] <john_> i added the two lines
[11:21] <hunger> ElitePete: Never used gparted. If you want more then 4 partiotions then one hof the first 4 has to be extended though.
[11:21] <john_> trying to stop the message saying it cant find ubuntu in the /etc/hosts file
[11:21] <Pygi> dabaR: thanks
[11:21] <pashaw> john_,   huh?  did you erase your original hosts file?
[11:21] <john_> well i didn't somehow its gona
[11:21] <ElitePete> hunger, it says i have /dev/sda1/ which is the bootable, a linux swap and the extended now
[11:21] <hunger> ElitePete: sda5 to whatever are stored "in" the extended one.
[11:21] <john_> well the file hasnt but the contents have
[11:21] <pashaw> john_,   lol  ok   1 sec
[11:22] <john_> strange how my config dialog for networking has gone too
[11:22] <john_> pashaw, i swear I never touched it! I just booted and got that message after messing about in the gnome network config
[11:22] <pashaw> john_,   <IP_ADDRESS>       localhost.localdomain   localhost       <putername>      <-only required line
[11:22] <dontblink> trappist:Any other advice?  The ctrl-alt-f2 thing didn't do anything, and as I said ctrl-alt-f1 changes the screen, but the processes keep loading.
[11:22] <hunger> ElitePete: You could delete the extended one then and add one more "normal" partition or you can add a sda5 inside the extended one.
[11:23] <ElitePete> hunger, when i click the extended one, i have no options
[11:23] <pashaw> john_,   edit the <putername>  to your choice
[11:23] <john_> ok
[11:23] <hunger> ElitePete: Assuming there is no sdaX with X >= 4.
[11:23] <ElitePete> hunger, i think not.
[11:23] <sagarp> how can i use the latest version of reiserfs if i have a breezy install disk??
[11:23] <hunger> ElitePete: I have never used gparted, sorry.
[11:24] <john_> pashaq, do I still want the cat line u gave me as the 1st line or do I have that line as 1st?
[11:24] <ElitePete> hunger, what do you use?
[11:24] <hunger> ElitePete: When partitioning I need full control (== fdisk) ;-)
[11:24] <ElitePete> hunger, i see i am not advanced enough for that
[11:24] <hunger> ElitePete: No GUI, just plain track numbers;-)
[11:24] <ElitePete> hunger, lol, i would die
[11:24] <ElitePete> hunger, i really would like to add a partition for downloads, can you help me?
[11:24] <pashaw> ElitePete,   resizing or partitoning?
[11:25] <nalioth> john_: as long as you have <IP_ADDRESS> and 'ubuntu' in the same line, you'll be fine (don't remove anything that's there)
[11:25] <ElitePete> pashaw, i have alot of free space, i want a seperate filesystem for downloads, so incase of system failure etc.
[11:25] <flodine> anyone ever use pekwm on breezy?
[11:25] <pashaw> ElitePete,   try cfdisk   easier
[11:25] <hunger> ElitePete: That has nothing to do with "advanced". I consider gparted more advanced then fdisk...
[11:25] <john_> nalioth, theres nowt there mate lol
[11:25] <sethk> ElitePete, that makes no sense
[11:25] <yahaa_swe> If I update my kernel will the new one then replace the old one or will I be able to choose which one I wanna use on startup?
[11:25] <john_> nalioth, I think I remember how I did it but I wont day cos its stupid
[11:25] <john_> schoolboy error
[11:25] <hunger> ElitePete: It is just that I have always used fdisk... and never got round to this newfangled stuff;-)
[11:26] <ElitePete> hunger, lol
[11:26] <ElitePete> pashaw, cfdisk ?
[11:26] <hunger> ElitePete: Is there still unpartitioned space on your HD?
[11:26] <pashaw> ElitePete,   boot linux  login type  sudo cfdisk /dev/???
[11:26] <ElitePete> hunger, no, it's all been allocated
[11:27] <ElitePete> into /dev/sda1/ mostly
[11:27] <hunger> ElitePete: Then this is tricky:-)
[11:27] <john_> how do I save in nano?
[11:27] <hunger> ElitePete: Whatever you do: MAKE BACKUPS!
[11:27] <ElitePete> hunger, i guess ill just forget about it
[11:27] <nalioth> john_: ctrl-o <enter>  saves ctrl-x closess
[11:27] <pashaw> john_,   what cat line       john  i ment for you to type in a terminal >   cat /etc/hosts    <-- thats your hosts file
[11:27] <Pygi> hunger: cfdisk only resizes partitions, but not filesystems...
[11:28] <john_> permission denied?
[11:28] <Pygi> john: sudo ....
[11:28] <john_> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[11:28] <yahaa_swe> If I update my kernel will the new one then replace the old one or will I be able to choose which one I wanna use?
[11:28] <pashaw> john_,   you dont need sudo you cat that file
[11:29] <nalioth> john_: you have to reboot into rescue mode
[11:29] <hunger> ElitePete: You might want to look into LVM. That makes managing drives so much easier in the long run.
[11:29] <john_> whats cat?
[11:29] <ElitePete> hunger, LVM ?
[11:29] <pashaw> john_,   its like  show me   inside
[11:29] <hunger> ElitePete: Logical Volume Management.
[11:29] <john_> ok so how do I edit it
[11:29] <ElitePete> hunger, is that in apt-get ?
[11:29] <john_> cant save it no permission
[11:29] <john_> and cant sudo as there is no host
[11:29] <john_> catch 22
[11:29] <pashaw> john_,   follow nalioths advice
[11:29] <john_> need to do it from recovery?
[11:30] <john_> ok
[11:30] <hunger> ElitePete: Basically a abstraction of harddrives.
[11:30] <niffe> how i can remove that firefox deerpark? i`v tried apt-get remove firefox it removes the standard firefox but not the deer park, help anyone?
[11:30] <john_> so do I need all the spaces after <IP_ADDRESS>
[11:30] <hunger> ElitePete: It even is in the default install:-)
[11:30] <ElitePete> hunger, do i want to do lvcreate ? a logical volume
[11:30] <pashaw> hunger,    thats not beginner level
[11:30] <hunger> ElitePete: It is not that easy...
[11:31] <pashaw> hunger,   hes scared of fdisk    lvm  not rdy
[11:31] <ElitePete> hunger, i want something like partition magic, ez and graphical :-)
[11:31] <hunger> ElitePete: LVs are basically "virtual" partitions.
[11:31] <Moeen> Anybody tried resize_reiserfs ? is it safe ?
[11:31] <ElitePete> i need partition magic :-)
[11:31] <newbus> testing
[11:31] <pashaw> ElitePete,     try cfdisk     quit if you get scarfed
[11:31] <ElitePete> pashaw, scared already
[11:31] <pashaw> ElitePete,   ack  my typing  *scared
[11:31] <hunger> ElitePete: Then LVM is not for you. It just helps to rearrange stuff inside LVM.
[11:32] <ElitePete> pashaw, ill just buy another HD for backups i suppose
[11:32] <Knowerrors> If I move my /home to another partition, what do I need to edit to tell ubuntu where to look for it? just fstab? or is this more involved?
[11:32] <rem_> you guys are the elite of computer nerds
[11:32] <pashaw> ElitePete,    try cfdisk  its much easier to read than fdisk    fdisk is ole faithful tho
[11:32] <Moeen> ElitePete, I have some experience that Partition Magic destroyed some of Datas. becareful about it, and it's better to not use it at all
[11:32] <rem_> oops...wif got her hands on my kb .. :P
[11:32] <hunger> ElitePete: It does not change the partitioning of your drives. It just grabs some partitions on them and turns them into "virtual drives" that you can group, rearrange and partition.
[11:32] <Florob> did i overlook the argument for not using gparted?
[11:33] <ElitePete> hunger, when i had XP i had 4 partitions, 1 for C:/system 1 for storage, 1 for music etc
[11:33] <pashaw> Knowerrors,  fstab entry for sure
[11:33] <mcjerry> Elitepete : partition magic is not as reliable as paragons 7tools partition manager
[11:34] <hunger> ElitePete: What keeps you from doing something similar in linux?
[11:34] <ElitePete> hunger, the fear
[11:34] <hunger> ElitePete: I have more then 10 partitions:-)
[11:34] <ElitePete> hunger, of having to reinstall ubuntu and set everything up again
[11:35] <hunger> ElitePete: Oh... that fear can be combated with backups.
[11:35] <Knowerrors> pashaw: anything else?  Im wanting to make a seperate partition for all my media files, and move my /home with all settings to a smaller partition
[11:35] <arnold> how do i update the gfx driver? my card is an:Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[11:35] <arnold> it is an acer laptop
[11:35] <arnold> anybody got the same card?
[11:36] <koro> Anyone knows how to get console to display properly accents?
[11:36] <niffe> how i can remove that firefox deerpark? i`v tried apt-get remove firefox it removes the standard firefox but not the deer park, help anyone?
[11:36] <Knowerrors> pashaw: nevermind, I'll just make a seperate /home/media folder, and keep /home/user untouched
[11:36] <pashaw> Knowerrors,   easy im not fast   here > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46866
[11:36] <Florob> niffe, how did you install deer park
[11:37] <hunger> ElitePete: And if you ever decide to repartition create one small partition for /boot and the rest goes into one or more partitions of type "Linux LVM".
[11:37] <visik7> how can I remove totem plugin from firefox ?
[11:37] <Kumo> hi, does anybody know about that message of illegal instruction? it's what I can read after some programs close down suddenly
[11:38] <ElitePete> hunger, i wish you lived near me to show me how :-)
[11:38] <arnold> anybody??
[11:38] <koro> How do I set the default application used to play muisic, videos, etc?
[11:38] <hunger> ElitePete: The ubuntu installer does all the heavy lifting for you:-)
[11:38] <ElitePete> koro, right click the type and select "opens with"
[11:39] <koro> thanks
[11:39] <hunger> ElitePete: It does handle LVM. There are HOWTOs for it as well.
[11:39] <ElitePete> hunger, too bad i'm a strong guy not a technical guy :-P
[11:39] <niffe> Florob: from deb file
[11:39] <mcjerry> visik7 in synaptic do a complete removal of totem-xine-firefox-plugin
[11:40] <Florob> visik7, you have to completely uninstall totem-gstreamer (which also uninstalls ubuntu-desktop) or find out where the plugin file is stored and move it away
[11:40] <hunger> ElitePete: I am reinstalling to a new HD right now:-)
[11:40] <ElitePete> hunger,  :-P
[11:40] <Florob> niffe: start aptitude and look for a firefox in the obsoltet packages section, remove that one
[11:41] <hunger> ElitePete: Well, reinstalling is too much... Copying files over to my new disk.
[11:41] <niffe> Florob: aptitude? ;p
[11:41] <ElitePete> hunger, when dapper comes out am i going to lose everything?
[11:41] <ElitePete> hunger, because i'll definently want to upgrade
[11:41] <hunger> ElitePete: Nope. You just dist-upgrade.
[11:41] <gnomefreak_away> during install if you get errors i was told to press alt+F2 will that give me full error list? or do i need a command to see the errors?
[11:41] <ElitePete> hunger, :-)
[11:42] <ElitePete> hunger, i moved to linux because i was tired of reinstalling XP monthly due to bullsh!t
[11:42] <arnold> anybody? the card is an Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device
[11:42] <hunger> ElitePete: I have not reinstalled in a couple of years now...
[11:42] <ScootaDoota> should be built into Xfree86
[11:42] <gnomefreak_away> good choice ElitePete
[11:42] <ElitePete> gnomefreak_away, thanks
[11:42] <ElitePete> im loving ubuntu
[11:43] <Florob> niffe: well, maybe synaptic has such a section, too
[11:43] <ompaul> gnomefreak_away, they will be there in all their glory and if you want to scroll back a screen this may work hit scroll lock and press page up
[11:43] <edy_123> hola
[11:43] <alan__> hunger i got disconnected could u please tell me that command to mount /dev/Ubuntu/root ?   it didnt stay in the console memory
[11:43] <ompaul> gnomefreak_away, did anyone tell you you that you were not away :)
[11:43] <hunger> ElitePete: this box started out as a debian/unstable a couple of years back... which I kept updating till today (dapper).
[11:43] <gnomefreak_away> ok ty ompaul
[11:43] <alan__> im sorry to be a pain
[11:43] <djtansey> has anyone here done a low-mem install of ubuntu?
[11:43] <hunger> alan__: mount -t ext3 -o ro /dev/Ubuntu/root /some/dir
[11:43] <ompaul> gnomefreak_away, if you type /away Some Reason then anyone talking to you gets told that you are away and it does not create noise on the channels you are on :)
[11:44] <alan__> thx a lot
[11:44] <gnomefreak_away> lol yes but if i change back it will be useless :( im waiting for k3b to install so i can burn dapper again
[11:44] <ElitePete> hunger, whats the cmd to edit my repos?
[11:44] <ElitePete> hunger, oh your on dapper already.
[11:44] <hunger> ElitePete: I copied the data over form one HD to another whenever I got a new laptop in the meantime...
[11:44] <gnomefreak_away> cool thank ompaul  i didnt know that :)
[11:44] <ElitePete> whats the cmd to edit my repos list?
[11:44] <hunger> ElitePete: I use vi... but some gui thingy like does that too IIRC:
[11:45] <pashaw> arnold,   in terminal type  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf         find the "device" section for your graphics and tell us what "driver" it says your using
[11:45] <hunger> ElitePete: synaptic is one IIRC.
[11:45] <ElitePete> hunger i mean like
[11:45] <alan__> hunger if cp copys a folder or file what pastes it?
[11:45] <ElitePete> with sudo gedit
[11:45] <gnomefreak_away> ElitePete, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sopources.list
[11:45] <ElitePete> gnomefreak_away, thanks
[11:45] <gnomefreak_away> damn
[11:45] <hunger> alan__?
[11:45] <gnomefreak_away> sources*
[11:45] <gnomefreak_away> yw
[11:45] <arnold> i810
[11:45] <niffe> Florob: how can i uninstall it with aptitude? i pressed g and it says nothing will be removed or installed
[11:45] <nalioth> ElitePete: gksudo gedit. use gksudo to open gui gnome apps and kdesu to open kde apps as superuser. doing it otw can scramble your permissions
[11:45] <hunger> alan__: "cp fileA fileb" copies filea to fileb.
[11:45] <alan__> cp copies it but how to you put that copy somewhere?
[11:46] <alan__> ok
[11:46] <alan__> i see
[11:46] <hunger> alan__: There is no "Paste" on the commandline.
[11:46] <Enlil_Ishtar> hello
[11:46] <Florob> niffe, when the package is marked press "-" that press "g"
[11:46] <pashaw> arnold,   should be good   anything wrong?
[11:46] <mcjerry> alan__ cp <file to copy> <where to copy to>
[11:47] <hunger> alan__: cp might use the permissins, etc. Is that OK for your usecase?
[11:47] <arnold> I am trying to start a game called tribal trouble and i get an error: Could not create glx context
[11:47] <Pygi> arnold: install OpenGL
[11:48] <alan__> i cant steer konqueror there because i cant open it as root
[11:48] <Enlil_Ishtar> I've a big problem. When I play a *.rmvb video with xine-ui, the sound sometimes disappear, and I have to move on the track with the cursos if I want it to come back -- a few moments :/
[11:48] <Pygi> alan: use sudo
[11:48] <gui> boa noite
[11:48] <nalioth> alan__: type 'kdesu konqueror' DO NOT USE SUDO
[11:48] <pashaw> gui,   language?
[11:48] <djtansey> has anyone done a hd-media install of ubuntu?
[11:48] <gui> pt-br
[11:48] <nalioth> Pygi: using sudo to open gui apps will cause permission problems
[11:48] <nalioth> !br
[11:48] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[11:48] <hunger> nalioth: Please do not suggest doing that!
[11:49] <alan__> it says kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[11:49] <nalioth> hunger: excuse me?
[11:49] <Kumo> hi, does anybody know about that message of illegal instruction? it's what I can read after some programs close down suddenly
[11:49] <Kumo> anybody?
[11:49] <arnold> But ive just tried tuxracer, it works fine. Dont it  use opengl??
[11:49] <Enlil_Ishtar> nobody can help me?
[11:49] <hunger> nalioth: Konqui is a monster that does even load other stuff. Running that as root is really suicidal IMHO.
[11:49] <arnold> how do i tjeck if it is installed??
[11:50] <nalioth> hunger: and running it as sudo is the worst way. using kdesu will preserve all your user permissions in place
[11:50] <niffe> Florob: it worked! thx
[11:50] <hunger> nalioth: Of course your suggestion should work... but it is definitly nothing root should use IMHO.
[11:51] <nalioth> Pygi: if you need to suggest someone open a gui app with superuser priveleges, advise them of gksudo for gnome apps and kdesu for kde apps
[11:51] <`Nomad> Hi.. Could someone help me with installing a Samsung Printer driver in Kubuntu, KDE 3.5?  I'm missing a simple permission issue with CUPS I think
[11:51] <`Nomad> I have a Samsung ML-2010 that comes with it's own drivers..  Using their install, I get prompted for an admin password while trying to add the printer.. I can't get that authentication accepted to continue.
[11:51] <UbuntuNewbie> I am having **so** much trouble trying to set up a dual-boot partition.  My primary boot partition is 200GB NTFS; supposing I want 20GB for Ubuntu -- can I safely resize the NTFS partition to 180 GB -- The NTFS partition is about 25% full with Windows stuff; I don't want to erase the Windows partition.  Is it possible to do this using the partition utility that came with Ubuntu?
[11:51] <`Nomad> I gave root a password, and also to cupsys which is what cupsd runs under
[11:51] <nalioth> hunger: thank you. you are correct. some users feel the need to have a superuser enabled gui program, and using gksudo or kdesu is the safer method to start those
[11:51] <`Nomad> but when I try those as teh admin names and password I get rejected
[11:52] <arnold> anything?
[11:52] <pashaw> UbuntuNewbie,   didnt you have a spare drive  use that one
[11:52] <Pygi> nalioth: yesh, yesh, I know....anyway, konquerer with superuser priveleges is not for anyone if you don't know what you are doin'
[11:52] <hunger> nalioth: So are you. Running them in kdesu is better then running them with sudo... but having to run them at all makes me feel itchy:-(
[11:53] <nalioth> Pygi: correct, but starting them with the correct commands will save a lot of trouble in the future
[11:53] <Pygi> nalioth: yup, true...
[11:53] <hunger> UbuntuNewbie: It should be possible... it should work... I wouldn't do it (without lots of backups).
[11:53] <arnold> pashaw?Got any ideas?
[11:53] <`Nomad> what is teh difference between kdesu and sudo?
[11:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell `Nomad about kdesu
[11:54] <`Nomad> oh wow, thanks!
[11:54] <hunger> See you later.
[11:54] <gnomefreak_away> ubotu knows kde stuff and not gksudo :(
[11:54] <ubotu> No idea, gnomefreak_away
[11:55] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gnomefreak_away about gksudo
[11:55] <UbuntuNewbie> I guess my question is -- if I want a 20 GB ubuntu partition -- do I size the drive to 20 GB or 180 GB  -- it defaulted to 200 GB (the NTFS partition, I mean)
[11:55] <gnomefreak_away> it didnt work for me :(
[11:55] <Pygi> gnomefreak: well, I think ubotu is open to suggestions :)
[11:55] <gnomefreak_away> ty nalioth
[11:56] <alan__> hunger how do you unmount a mount -t ext3 -o ro /dev/Ubuntu/root   ??
[11:56] <Pygi> hehe :)
[11:56] <pashaw> arnold, does glxgears run?
[11:56] <Pygi> alan: umount
[11:56] <tjb13> hey guys, is there like a wiki with a bunch of guides for setting up ati graphics, processor freq scaling, etc... is everything compiled into the kernel by default, i just came from gentoo so bear with me
[11:57] <trappist> tjb13: your video card and frequency scaling are disparate enough subjects that "etc." is hard to interpret.
[11:57] <GNULinuxGeek> Updated to Breezy but now cannot play DVDs using the computer.  Do I need to update something else?
[11:58] <arnold> Yes fine
[11:58] <pashaw> arnold,  my games system has nvidia card      not sure about your error then
[11:59] <UbuntuNewbie> my main gripe is the Wiki tends to be a bit vague....
[11:59] <pashaw> arnold,  could try forums or google for that game and your error
[11:59] <tjb13> trappist, well... how do i get power management stuff to work
[11:59] <tjb13> like frequency scaling and sleep
[11:59] <tjb13> ?
[11:59] <tjb13> thanks for your help btw
[11:59] <wizardjames> rar command (for vobsub compression)   what would i put or need to make this work?  the program i am useing right now has it set at    rar-2.80
[11:59] <pashaw> arnold,   your video driver seems fine tho
[11:59] <Unity> what is the difference between mozilla browser and firefox?
[11:59] <arnold> Ive tried, The only solution seems to be an update, but i am not sure how i do it
[11:59] <gnomefreak_away> UbuntuNewbie, i dont find most of them vague at all but im getting kind of used to reading them :)


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[06:31] <ginggs> morning doko, how attached are you to libgltf's symbols file? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgltf/0.0.2-4ubuntu1 it's a nasty c++ thing, if I drop it, the package builds
[06:33] <ginggs> doko: and since rene has warmed to multiarch and switch the package to dh 10, i could just sync
[07:49] <mardy> seb128: hi! I've been told that I need an archive admin to publish https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2131, do you happen to have time to check it?
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[08:48] <mardy> didrocks: or do you? ^
[08:55] <didrocks> mardy: unsure how the UI is working nowadays (I'm quite confused about where it does say you need an archive admin and how to publish). I can spend time on this this afternoon if nobody beats me to it
[09:05] <LocutusOfBorg> hi folks, wrt ros-rviz, why isn't autodecrufting not working?
[09:05] <LocutusOfBorg> old binaries left on amd64: librviz1d (from 1.12.2+dfsg-1build1)
[09:32] <doko> ginggs: well, we usually require it for main ...
[09:32] <doko> didn't I use the helper tool for that?
[10:06] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: There is no "auto-decrufting".
[10:08] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: Fixed.
[10:10] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks infinity
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[10:48] <LocutusOfBorg> I probably got the gdal failure in testsuite
[10:52] <LocutusOfBorg> libproj9 is installed with the new libproj12 and making the shared libraries fail
[10:54] <ginggs> doko: libgltf is in universe
[10:58] <doko> bad SweetShark ... using again the embedded copies
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[11:57] <LocutusOfBorg> can I move old finished transition to old/*
[11:58] <LocutusOfBorg> e.g. plist  hdf5 libjsoncpp netcdf
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[12:02] <LocutusOfBorg> well, I'm moving them, in case I can revert
[14:45] <ChrisTownsend> pitti: Hi!  We have a new binary package introduced in https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/2123 and need an archive admin's blessing before we can publish.  Would you have time to take a look?
[17:06] <ginggs> doko: what was the verdict with libgltf then? it's holding up http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/html/glew.html (i fixed meshlab and imagevis3d earlier)
[17:08] <ginggs> i'm unsure what to do about blender, we could remove the ppc64el binaries and hope that gets fixed upstream soon, or delete 2.78a+dfsg0-1 and upload 2.77.a+dfsg0-9ubuntu1 as a no-change rebuild
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[20:55] <bdmurray> xnox: bug 1605511 is missing the regression-potential portion of the SRU template
[20:55] <ubot5`> bug 1605511 in openssl-ibmca (Ubuntu Yakkety) "openssl engine error if trying to exploit hw crypto on z due to library issue" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1605511
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[22:20] <xnox> bdmurray, none. it fails to load at the moment - hence unusable out of the box without tricks.
[22:22] <dannf> The procps SRU for xenial appears to be blocked due to failing autopkgtests in the autopkgtest package itself. The tests were failing in the same way before the update - so can that be overridden? https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/autopkgtest/xenial/amd64
[22:24] <bdmurray> xnox: that's still worth documenting
[22:24] <bdmurray> dannf: looking
[22:24] <xnox> bdmurray, updated
[22:26] <bdmurray> dannf: its curious that it passed with the version of procps in the release pocket for xenial
[22:29] <dannf> bdmurray: indeed - but it also failed w/ that version
[22:29] <bdmurray> dannf: Are you sure?  looks to me like it failed with 2.1 and 2.2 but not 2
[22:30] <dannf> bdmurray: yeah - i checked the artifacts for the autopkgtest tests triggered by dpkg/1.18.4ubuntu1.1, which has both a pass and a fail run - they were using the release pocket version of procps
[22:31] <dannf> if you'd like a root cause as to the failure, that's fair enough - i can check w/ pitti to see if it's known
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[06:04] <didrocks> good morning!
[06:04] <pitti> Bonjour didrocks, ça va ?
[06:05] <larsu> good morning!
[06:05] <didrocks> pitti: ça va bien, et toi ? Bien rentré ?
[06:05] <didrocks> hey larsu!
[06:05] <didrocks> larsu: how was your last day in Malta?
[06:06] <larsu> didrocks: relaxing :)
[06:06] <larsu> didrocks: did you have a good trip back?
[06:06] <pitti> didrocks: oui, everything went well
[06:06] <pitti> hey larsu
[06:06] <larsu> hi pitti!
[06:06] <didrocks> larsu: yeah, everything was perfectly on time!
[06:07] <larsu> same here
[06:07] <didrocks> just an hour before the evacuation in Malta's airport
[06:07] <larsu> I heard there were "some" delays because of that ;)
[06:07] <larsu> I guess you got lucky
[06:07] <didrocks> right, clearly lucky :)
[07:02] <didrocks> hum, my sd card is returning a -110 error, no wonder why my rasperry doesn't work anymore
[07:02] <didrocks> the question is what is -110 though…
[07:20] <mlankhorst> so did everyone get delayed when travelling from malta ? :P
[08:10] <didrocks> ok, sd card is really dead… at least, my disks are still ok.
[08:34] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[08:37] <didrocks> hey seb128!
[08:38] <seb128> didrocks, lut ;-)
[09:01] <pitti> bonjour seb128
[09:01] <seb128> pitti, salut, ça va ? bien rentré ?
[09:02] <pitti> seb128: oui, tout s'est bien passé
[10:45] <desrt> hello fellow european-timezone-dwellers!
[10:48] <seb128> desrt, hey! how are you? had a good trip back?
[10:50]  * larsu waves to desrt
[10:50] <larsu> desrt: how was mekong?
[10:50] <desrt> tasty :)
[10:50]  * desrt had the tofu human skin rolls
[10:50] <larsu> :)
[10:51] <desrt> wasn't too hungry since it was something like 1am desrt-internal-time when i landed
[10:51] <desrt> but traditions are traditions :)
[10:52] <larsu> ha, of course
[10:58] <didrocks> hey desrt!
[10:58] <desrt> didrocks: hey :)
[10:59] <seb128> lol
[10:59] <desrt> anyone have any serious incidents?
[10:59] <desrt> any left-behind diving equipment?
[11:00] <didrocks> some people left just in time to avoid it :)
[11:00] <seb128> larsu, did you get falafel? ;-)
[11:00] <mlankhorst> not me, I optimized for speed and cleared my own airport in 14 minutes, including waiting time for train :P
[11:02] <larsu> seb128: of. course.
[11:02] <larsu> what a question! :P
[11:02] <seb128> lol
[11:02]  * desrt had (literally) first bag on the belt
[11:02] <desrt> and the bags came fast
[11:02] <desrt> and toronto airport was its usual efficient self
[11:03]  * seb128 didn't get bag
[11:03] <larsu> I also had thai
[11:03]  * larsu was hungry
[11:03] <seb128> which was expected
[11:03] <larsu> and a waffle
[11:03] <seb128> the connection is frankfurt was fine for me, but they didn't get manage to get the bags through
[11:03] <larsu> seb128: did you get it yet?
[11:04] <seb128> yes, they delivered it yesterday around 17h
[11:05] <desrt> i really like this system
[11:05] <desrt> when i went to berlin i made a connection in 10 minutes
[11:05] <desrt> as in, gate to gate (in reverse) 10 minutes, including passport control and security -- i spent 10 minutes inside of the building
[11:05] <desrt> understandably my bags didn't make it
[11:06] <desrt> but at the destination it was great -- i got to take the train to lars' without a bag to weigh me down -- and they did delivery later in the evening
[11:06] <seb128> ;-)
[11:06] <larsu> but someone needed to be at the appartment
[11:06] <larsu> which was a bit of an issue
[11:07] <desrt> ya... this was slightly inconvenient, but not awful
[11:07] <seb128> well, still better than having to go again to the airport to get the bag
[11:07] <desrt> but the experience of coming to a new city and just hopping on the s-bahn with a small shoulder bag... this is amazing
[11:07] <desrt> almost like i have two homes and i just travel between them or something
[11:19] <larsu> :)
[12:19] <czajkowski> .c
[12:20] <ogra_> .d
[12:30] <czajkowski> ogra_: it's one of those days :)
[12:30] <ogra_> yeah ... here too :)
[12:30]  * ogra_ is still recovering from an awful travel experience
[12:31] <czajkowski> ogra_: bad?
[12:31] <ogra_> yup
[12:31] <ogra_> http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/news/national/39528/malta_airport_evacuated_over_suspicious_luggage#.U4wq1N-ubCJ
[12:31] <jpds> Were you at the airport at the time?
[12:31] <ogra_> was hitting many canonical people ... and forced me into the worst train ride i ever had
[12:32] <ogra_> jpds, yup
[12:32] <ogra_> https://plus.google.com/107109423598372241322/posts/Jy3UHPkkeU4
[12:33] <ogra_> 2h in the bright sun ... not much shadow around, no water etc ...
[12:34] <czajkowski> ogra_: ouchies :(
[12:35] <mlankhorst> I'm so glad I recovered from a quick travel experience, 14 minutes at my destination airport (got on the train asap from the plane). :P
[12:36] <mlankhorst> but hey pure oxygen is explosive ;-)
[12:37] <ogra_> i doubt it was pure oxygen
[12:37] <mdeslaur> ogra_: 2h in the bright sun? wow, that would have been fatal to me.
[12:37] <ogra_> i guess thats what set of the explosives alert
[12:37] <ogra_> mdeslaur, well, ask your colleagues ... half the security team was there with me
[12:38] <ogra_> their plane crashed ...
[12:38] <ogra_> and the reboots they tried didnt fix it
[12:38] <ogra_> oh, wait
[12:38] <mdeslaur> lol
[12:38] <ogra_> that came out wrong :P
[12:38] <ogra_> their planes computer crashed :)
[12:38] <mdeslaur> yeah, "crashed" applies differently when talking about something plane-related :)
[12:38] <ogra_> so they had to step out again ...
[12:39] <ogra_> when i talked to them last they were re-scheduled from tehir 6am flight to something on sunday ...
[12:40] <ogra_> they surely have some stories to tell that makes my travel experience sound shallow :)
[12:40] <mdeslaur> ouch :(
[13:30] <seb128> bregma, hey, had a good trip back?
[13:30] <seb128> bregma, could you review Laney's unity8-desktop-session's merge request? (the one to make the unity8-mir session default)
[15:41] <seb128> cyphermox, hey, I assigned https://launchpad.net/bugs/1312349 to you, I hope it's ok ;-) (there are some other bluetooth items in the sponsoring queue, would be nice if you could have a look as well)


[00:12] <mup> Bug #1706811 changed: [2.2,2.3] Avoidable power errors occur when there is a mismatch among racks <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1706811>
[00:18] <mup> Bug #1706811 opened: [2.2,2.3] Avoidable power errors occur when there is a mismatch among racks <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1706811>
[17:56] <mup> Bug #1706811 changed: [2.2,2.3] Avoidable power errors occur when there is a mismatch among racks <MAAS:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1706811>


[04:00] <Blacko> ch
[04:00] <Blacko> allo
[04:01] <Blacko> ???
[13:14] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:10] <bregma> snow is still on the ground here
[14:32] <BluesKaj> +8 here , no frost last night...we've had great weather here , nicest Nov I can recall
[16:51] <dscassel> willwh: Back!
[16:51] <dscassel> "~willwh" is just shorthand for your home directory.
[17:26] <willwh> dscassel: I thought that was just ~/
[17:26] <willwh> :)
[17:28] <willwh> dscassel: there has to be an explanation for this though
[17:47] <genii-around> This might make sense if you know that College Street and University Ave is an intersection in Toronto.. this morning on the streetcar, guy gets on and says "I'm going to College and University" . Some smartass siting up front chimes in "Geez man, pick one or the other!"
[17:48] <willwh> ahahaha :)
[17:50] <genii-around> willwh: Yeah we all had a good chuckle!
[17:57] <BluesKaj> I went to college when I was 6yrs old ...College street public school that is ..in Sudbury
[17:58] <BluesKaj> it's still there ...it was old when I attended
[17:58] <BluesKaj> :)
[18:00] <genii-around> BluesKaj: I went to Walpole South Public School when we lived in Chelmsford/Azilda
[18:00] <BluesKaj> right , sounds familiar
[18:39] <dscassel> willwh: ~ is the current user's home directory.  ~user is user's home directory, even if you're not 'user'.
[18:52] <willwh> ah
[20:02] <JeffE> Is it just me, or did they get rid of the "ca" keyboard option in Oneiric?  Right now my keyboard definition is "dvorak,fr" with " _ ,eng"
[20:02] <JeffE> Not sure, but I might have poked "behind the scenes" to get that.
[20:09] <dscassel> JeffE: I'm running Oneiric.  English(Canada) and French(Canada) are in the list in the keyboard layout prefs
[20:12] <JeffE> I just looked again - nope.  There is no "Canada" like Natty had, no "English (Canada)" either.  maybe it's a product of the upgrade.
[20:18] <bregma> hmm, I'm running oneiric and using an English(Canada) setting
[20:18] <bregma> but I upgraded from maverick and natty
[20:18] <JeffE> I went from 10.10 to 11.04 and then 11..... whatever Oneiric is.
[20:21] <JeffE> Ah, I did 'hard-wire' it: I was tired of seeing the US flag in the systray when I was in "en"/"dvorak", and "us"/"en", or whatever the menu choices gave me.  So I've got "dvorak,ca" forced in.  But in the Xfce-settings I last had "dvorak/french(Canada)-english(Canada)", or some craziness.
[21:12] <BluesKaj> BBL, stuff to do