[10:53] <apw> diwic, yo ... this SND_DEBUG thing, is this something you would make use of if it was turned on?
[11:13] <diwic> apw, rarely, but it happens
[11:14] <diwic> apw, heh, by your latest email it seems we're following upstream's recommendations
[11:14] <diwic> apw, or, its default but not its recommendation, which is a bit contradictory
[11:31] <apw> diwic, yeah, so as you are our audio expert we would prefer to be guided by you, if you see value in it, file a bug and let me know the number and we can prototype it in saucy
[11:32] <diwic> apw, ok. I'll await what Takashi says about it
[11:32] <apw> diwic, great, i will promptly forget until we hear from you
[11:32] <diwic> apw, ack
[11:33] <apw> diwic, i think he has already replied in the positive, so file me a bug
[11:34] <apw> and i'll get it in the next saucy 3.9 upload, i am keen to upload it as it has a security patch sitting on it
[11:40] <apw> diwic, there is a new option exposed by SND_DE
[11:40] <apw> diwic, there is a new option exposed by SND_DEBUG, SND_PCM_XRUN_DEBUG ... do we want that on or off
[11:41] <diwic> apw, I guess the value is either that we're testing code that others are not testing (QA!), or that we're sticking with what SuSE is doing (less bugs for us!)
[11:41] <diwic> apw, I've actually fixed a bug once that only occurred with SND_DEBUG off
[11:42] <diwic> apw, let me check XRUN_DEBUG and see if it has any performance impact
[11:42] <apw> diwic, we want less bugs i suspect
[11:46] <diwic> apw, xrun_debug can actually be even more helpful
[11:46] <diwic> apw, I say let's go for both
[11:47] <diwic> apw, bug 1187744
[11:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1187744 in linux (Ubuntu) "please enable SND_PCM_XRUN_DEBUG" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1187744
[11:49]  * henrix -> lunch
[13:26] <psivaa> jsalisbury: Just curious about the ETA of a fix for bug 1181315.
[13:26] <psivaa> This bug is causing a couple of daily smoke test failures and it's not being assigned to anyone.
[13:26] <psivaa> Would also help to get that assigned. thanks
[13:28] <jsalisbury> psivaa, I'll start the bisect now.  It would be good to test v3.10-rc4 as well, just to confirm it's not fixed in mainline.
[13:28] <jsalisbury> psivaa, I'll post a link to v3.10-rc4 in the bug
[13:34] <apw> diwic, ack
[13:34] <apw> ogasawara__, i am thinking i would upload a 3.9 saucy, to get the pending security fix out
[13:36] <ogasawara__> apw: ack
[13:41] <apw> ogasawara, and i'll upload the unstable to preproposed
[13:41] <ogasawara> apw: ack
[14:18] <henrix> jsalisbury: re bug #1186932
[14:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1186932 in linux (Ubuntu) "Regression: kernel 3.8.0-24 breaks WPA enterprise auth [iwlwifi]" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1186932
[14:18] <henrix> jsalisbury: looks like the fix is commit a87783699b23395c46bbeeb5d28f6db24897bf26
[14:18] <henrix> jsalisbury: its a linus tree sha1
[14:19] <henrix> jsalisbury: if you check the commit body, it refers to bug that seems to be the same one
[14:20] <jsalisbury> henrix, cool, thanks for finding
[14:21] <henrix> jsalisbury: np
[14:21] <henrix> jsalisbury: let me know if you want me to build a test kernel
[14:21] <jsalisbury> henrix, I'll build a raring kernel with that commit and post it to the bug
[14:21] <jsalisbury> henrix, heh,
[14:21] <henrix> :)
[14:21] <jsalisbury> henrix, it's up to you.  I don't mind doing it
[14:22] <henrix> jsalisbury: and it looks like we'll hit the same bug on other kernels as well (at least Q)
[14:23] <henrix> jsalisbury: heh, looks like the bug reporter has already found the fix himself :)
[14:23] <henrix> and he confirms it fixes it, so no need for a test kernel ;)
[14:23] <jsalisbury> henrix, great
[14:27] <jsalisbury> henrix, it looks like a87783699b23395c46bbeeb5d28f6db24897bf26 was sent to stable
[14:27] <henrix> jsalisbury: yep, that's how i found it :)
[14:27] <jsalisbury> henrix, :-)
[14:28] <henrix> _bjf: is it too late in the sru cycle to add this fix into the kernels (P, Q and R)?
[14:29] <psivaa> jsalisbury: I've just updated bug #1181315 to say that it is still present in v3.10-rc4 as well.
[14:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1181315 in linux (Ubuntu) "unregister_netdevice: waiting for lo to become free. Usage count = 2' is reported and causing kernel hang when floodlight tests are run using utah" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1181315
[14:31] <jsalisbury> psivaa, cool.  Thanks.
[14:31] <jsalisbury> psivaa, I started a bisect, so I'll have a test kernel for that shortly.
[14:32] <jsalisbury> psivaa, I also identified two commits in the changelog from 3.8 to v3.9-rc1 that may be suspect. I'm also going to post  a test kernel with those two commits reverted as well.
[14:33] <psivaa> jsalisbury: ack, could test that when it's ready
[14:33] <apw> jsalisbury, sounds like you are haivng fun there
[14:34] <jsalisbury> psivaa, copying it now.  posting  a link to the bug
[14:34] <jsalisbury> apw, always having fun ;-)\
[14:34] <psivaa> jsalisbury: ack
[15:20] <psivaa> jsalisbury: just fyi, the test kernel also has the issue.
[17:34] <jsalisbury> psivaa, I started a bisect and posted the first test kernel.  A link to the test kernel is in the bug.
[17:47] <cafetiere> smb`: it is sunny outside ... Why are we inside ...
[23:49] <slangasek> oh wow, my system has actually gotten itself into a state where the swap *is* used... 100% of it
[23:50] <slangasek> that's a curious change


[19:17] <hp732m> goog day....
[19:17] <hp732m> I have a question
[19:17] <hp732m> about the docs
[19:18] <hp732m> ubuntu-docs
[19:26] <pleia2> hi hp732m
[19:27] <hp732m> hi pleia2
[19:27] <pleia2> there are translations done on the Ubuntu documentation, you want to visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Translation
[19:28] <pleia2> the translations team has discussions on this mailing list: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators and many languages have their own localized mailing lists as well
[19:30] <pleia2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-es-l10n may be of interest to you
[19:48] <hp732m> okl, let me see the information
[19:48] <hp732m> thanks
[19:49] <pleia2> you're welcome :)


[23:25] <ActionPa1snip> akem: I'll believe it when I see it, that thing has been foating around for ages
[23:25] <hilo> hello everyone!
[23:26] <ActionPa1snip> *floating
[23:26] <akem> ActionPa1snip, i know / looks like you should see it pretty soon.
[23:26] <Rallias> ActionPa1snip, Yeah, but not officially announced until today
[23:26] <miaumiau> ActionPa1snip: at least L4D2 native version has been promised
[23:27] <ActionPa1snip> we'll see, not holding my breath
[23:27] <akem> L4D2 is awesome but runs very badly with Wine iirc.
[23:29] <miaumiau> ActionPa1snip: yeah,better not
[23:32] <moment> hmm
[23:35] <adv_> .
[23:35] <Dykam> ng
[23:35] <Dykam> woops
[23:38] <malianx> for Cron: 55 */2 * * * should be every 2 hours, at 55 after the hour shouldn't it?
[23:38] <batshitcrazyguy> test
[23:39] <Rallias> malianx, yes.
[23:47] <wolf1161> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1097539/
[23:47] <wolf1161> Having trouble uninstalling this package.... any advice?
[23:48] <ActionPa1snip> wolf1161: keep reinstalling the package ti the hash matches
[23:49] <ActionPa1snip> wolf1161: or contact the ppa maintainer
[23:49] <wolf1161> I don't want to install it. I want to remove it and forget about it.
[23:49] <wolfgang_> I there an irc chanel for yellow dog linux?
[23:50] <wolfgang_> ?
[23:51] <wolfgang_> !yellowdog
[23:51] <bz> wolfgang_: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=yellow%2Bdog%2Blinux%2Birc%2Bchannel#seen
[23:53] <zykotick9> bz: don't use lmgtfy in this channel - it's not cute
[23:53] <Loshki> !info cuesheet
[23:53] <Chilaha> Hi.
[23:53] <Chilaha> Does anyone know a good amount about a block called safe eyes?
[23:54] <wolfgang_> Is yellow dog linux ubuntu?
[23:54] <bz> yep
[23:54] <Rallias> Yellow dog linux is fedora based
[23:54] <bz> zykotick9: it is to me
[23:54] <wolfgang_> could it run computer games on a ps3?
[23:55] <Chilaha> Can anyone help me stop my block, safeeyes, from being able to see what I'm doing on the computer?
[23:55] <zykotick9> wolfgang_: the ps3 has very little RAM like 256MB or something, so very doubtful
[23:55] <Chilaha> It does user reports and whenever I go on a site it writes it down.
[23:55] <Rallias> wolfgang_, Your questions would be better answered in a channel designated for yellow dog linux support.
[23:55] <zykotick9> wolfgang_: linux in the ps3 seems like a waste of time to me...
[23:55] <Chilaha> Anyway I can get it so the website can't be seen.
[23:56] <Chilaha> Please, can anyone help. A browser that won't show a history?
[23:56] <wolfgang_> zykotick9, i was wondering because i thought there was a chance it couldbe my new computer instead of going and buidling one?
[23:56] <Rallias> Chilaha, Are you in private mode?
[23:56] <zykotick9> wolfgang_: with the RAM situtation - probably not...
[23:56] <ActionPa1snip> wolfgang_: could play terminal games well
[23:56] <Chilaha> No.
[23:56] <IdleOne> Chilaha: We don't help to circumvent parental control software.. Not to mention it is not an ubuntu issue.
[23:56] <Chilaha> I don't know how to do that?
[23:57] <wolfgang_> zykotick9, Is that the only real problem?
[23:57] <Chilaha> IdleOne: Where can I find people who will help me do that?
[23:57] <IdleOne> Chilaha: No idea, but not in here.
[23:57] <Chilaha> OK. Later.
[23:57] <zykotick9> wolfgang_: don't know - i decided NOT to get a PS3 after learning the specs... so another personal/channel would have better info
[23:58] <ActionPa1snip> wolfgang_: it'll play ninvaders well :)
[23:58] <Rallias> it will play visualboyadvanced well
[23:58] <wolfgang_> Actionparsnip was thinking more like minecraft :D
[23:58] <zykotick9> ActionPa1snip: i'm "sure" ncurses games is what the OP meant ;)
[23:58] <miaumiau> wolfgang_: use of yellow dog linux has also been patched out via firmware iirc
[23:58] <Rallias> no way no how will minecraft run on 256 mb ram.
[23:58] <ActionPa1snip> zykotick9: it's a game.... ;D
[23:59] <Rallias> actually, it will, but that's amd64, not cell.
[23:59] <wolfgang_> miamiau, so i just cant even get ianymore? i have the big ps3
[23:59] <zykotick9> ActionPa1snip: true.  what's with the 1 for r?  you going 3li3te on us?
[23:59] <ActionPa1snip> zykotick9: mind you, other consoles don't have much more
[23:59] <miaumiau> wolfgang_: as fas as I know not when you have a recent firmware
[23:59] <Rallias> wolfgang_, Also, is your ps3's firmware pre-3.21?
[23:59] <ActionPa1snip> zykotick9: I hit break instead of running: /exit


[22:18] <thumper> easy PR - merging 2.6 -> develop https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/10509
[22:34] <thumper> timClicks: thanks
[22:35] <timClicks> thumper: np
[22:35] <timClicks> thumper: hey I was considering submitting a Juju tutorial for LCA 2020 on the gold coast
[22:36] <thumper> go for it