[04:06] <elementzero> *if they work there
[04:06] <mmoebius> hou5ton: A "nicer" solution would be if you installed an openvpn between you and her. Also for privacy's sake as ultravnc in itself is not encrypted
[04:06] <blazer1980> masen: It was very fast before but gradually started to get slower. There is also no sound when it logs in although login sound is enabled. Could it be the AWN?
[04:06] <masen> brophat: try a mirror closer to you - http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[04:07] <test34> elementzero, good luck, but they should
[04:07] <elementzero> thanks
[04:07] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  I could easily have something installed on her system
[04:07] <brophat> masen i am at that page but there is no 10.4 available there
[04:07] <DrupalJim> hey guys. having an issue installing phpmyadmin. i'm using apt-get install php myadmin and getting this back: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  phpmyadmin: Depends: php5-mcrypt but it is not installable E: Broken packages
[04:07] <mmoebius> hou5ton: Onb the other hand, if you have a static ip and can open a port on your and and happen to have a static ip, the "reverse" connection would be easier to do
[04:08] <masen> blazer1980: quite possibly, try disabling it on startup and see if you notice a difference
[04:08] <WXZ> what's the url for karmic koala's main repository?
[04:08] <masen> brophat: scroll down and find a mirror closer to you (near bottom on page) and click it, 10.4 will be listed on that page
[04:08] <brophat> okaha
[04:09] <mmoebius> hou5ton: Oh, and please inform her of the privavcy issues included. That if the ultravnc icon turns  green(?) then you are watching her screen
[04:09] <hou5ton> ok
[04:09] <blazer1980> masen: thanks so much, let me try that and I will be back
[04:09] <RealOpty> is it possible to program a button on my mouse to operate my music player rhythmbox
[04:09] <RealOpty> ?*
[04:09] <test34> RealOpty, yes
[04:10] <RealOpty> ok. where do i start?
[04:10] <mmoebius> hou5ton: do you have anything like a static ip or a dydndns service set up at your machine ?
[04:10] <hou5ton> I'm not sure
[04:10] <RealOpty> test34, maybe xorg.conf or something
[04:10] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  I'm not sure
[04:10] <RealOpty> maybe hotplug?
[04:10] <RealOpty> idk
[04:11] <mmoebius> hou5ton: If i think about it, I'd rather want to set up an openvpn if possible. That also eliminates the problems with finding the right ips :-)
[04:11] <Nautilus> I'm having a problem with 301 redirects and wonder where I can look that would do that to more than one vhost
[04:11] <masen> WXZ: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/
[04:11] <mmoebius> hou5ton: But pof yourse this adds another layer of complexety and possible breakage :-(
[04:11] <WXZ> thanks masen
[04:12] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  yes
[04:12] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  it's easy to see why GoToMyPC is so popular.  :-)
[04:12] <masen> WXZ: here's the default /etc/apt/sources.list file, http://ubuntu-for-humans.blogspot.com/2010/02/default-repositories-list-in-ubuntu-910.html
[04:12] <brophat> ok much better thanks masen bahahahahahaha
[04:12] <mmoebius> hou5ton: It also depends on the level of privacy needed. If she's reviewing e.g. an employers photographs or something nobody else should see ever, encryption is a must
[04:13] <WXZ> is it just a pattern?
[04:13] <brophat> 19 mins vs 1 day 6  hours bwahahahahahahaha
[04:13] <test34> RealOpty, can't find it right now but I know it's possible
[04:13] <WXZ> like deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted, deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid main restricted, deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick main restricted etc.?
[04:13] <masen> WXZ: yes that's how it goes
[04:13] <masen> there's more info on the ubuntu wiki
[04:13] <mmoebius> hou5ton: The thing with GoToMyPC and (team..viewer(?)) is that the compyny in the middle can watch your screens, too
[04:13] <WXZ> well that's useful
[04:14] <RealOpty> test34, ok ill google it later. if u come across the info plz pm me.
[04:14] <DrupalJim> hey guys. having an issue installing phpmyadmin. i'm using apt-get install php myadmin and getting this back: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  phpmyadmin: Depends: php5-mcrypt but it is not installable E: Broken packages
[04:14] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  yes .... and I'm willing to learn here ... but for $15/month they take care of any problems ... just click and go
[04:15] <mmoebius> hou5ton: If you can setup your end properly (open pert etc) UltraVNC Single click is easiest, best controlled and almost sure-fire http://www.uvnc.com/addons/singleclick.html
[04:15] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  ok ... I'm bookmarking that and will learn to use it
[04:17] <elementzero> question: does it matter if i do a logical or a primary partition install?
[04:17] <mmoebius> hou5ton: You could setup the dyndns service for you and the nyou'll need a port forwarding in your router to get through to your pc. Also, ther the firewall (if any) has to be disabled for the "incoming port".
[04:18] <hhassey> how do i stop services like ssh, vsftpd, etc?
[04:18] <elementzero> i have one hdd, right now it has 3 partitions -- two for Windows (windows 7 made a 100mb partition for system files of some kind), one 30gb partition, and now ubuntu will need to make another two, one for the os and one for swap
[04:18] <mmoebius> hou5ton: You can setup the free http://www.dyndns.com service no matter what and always have the lady connect her screen to the right computer (yours) even if you hav e.g. t oswitch the ISP)
[04:19] <geoffmcc> clear
[04:20] <mmoebius> bye bye
[04:20] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  is that the sort of thing pro's use in managing multiple remote systems, or do they just buy software to do connect for them?
[04:20] <mmoebius_afk> hou5ton: I manage ca. 40 remote systems with ultravnc
[04:20] <hhassey> salel
[04:21] <mmoebius> hou5ton: so, "pro" is maybe not the right term for me but I am somewhat close :-)
[04:21] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  got it.  :-)
[04:21] <mmoebius> hou5ton: And there's nothing better than a free openvpn tunnel to customers/freiewnds etc.
[04:22] <mmoebius> hou5ton: so, you learn it once and then deploy it mayny times for free or ... well, you pay each and every time. "Tradeoff" is the word :-P
[04:22] <mmoebius> hou5ton: I assume u are from US ?
[04:23] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  yep ... central Missouri
[04:23] <CrazyTux> How do I remove a hard drive from having an MBR ?
[04:23] <mmoebius> hou5ton:Do you happen t know Linksys WRT54g routers ?
[04:23] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  I have a Linksys router ... not sure what model
[04:23] <frenchy> hhassey, service vsftpd stop i think
[04:23] <CrazyTux> I had ubuntu on Drive A, purchased Drive B .... put in Drive B as primary, Drive A is now secondary... but Drive A still has MBR so it thinks I have two OS'
[04:24] <mmoebius> hou5ton: Cisco Management (in the US) still dosn't understand why the WRT54g became a big hit in European markets. Because it's open and peopla cann roll their own software.
[04:24] <frenchy> CrazyTux, did you install an OS on drive B
[04:26] <ivanchuk> hello. any howtos to help set up a development environment in an intranet - like one that integrates a version control system like svn, mantis (or any other bug tracking system), commits to svn tracked against the bug tracking system, etc as well as some sort of project management and reporting stuff?
[04:26] <mmoebius> hou5ton: It's a philosophy thing. And e.g. cisco doesn't understand (much) why the free stuff is cool. And it even pays off because with the free router you can run e.g. openvpn instead of having to license a "preofessional" Office Router with VPN from cisco. Saving costs, licenses and everything
[04:27] <hou5ton> mmoebius:  sounds good ... I prefer opensource aps when practical
[04:27] <mmoebius> CrazyTux: Nom, yaour computer just boots from the 2nd drive
[04:27] <roygbiv> ivanchuk that's a tall order
[04:28] <roygbiv> ivanchuk have a look at trac, and fossil. i'm not sure those have 100% of what you're looking for but they are each nicely integrated projects
[04:28] <mmoebius> hou5ton: if you want to run linux on a router, check out e.g. http://www.freewrt.org/ or (if bigger) the stuff from http://www.routerboard.com/
[04:28] <ivanchuk> roygbiv: heh, i know. we are a small group in a small office, but we use all those tools, but they are not integrated. atleast tehre's no project management part. just use svn and bugzilla. something that is more compact would be great.
[04:28] <CrazyTux> frenchy: yea ubuntu is on Drive B
[04:28] <ivanchuk> roygbiv: will, thanks.
[04:28] <CrazyTux> frenchy: I installed it on my new SSD drive
[04:29] <roygbiv> fossil is really something IMO
[04:29] <ivanchuk> let me check
[04:29] <roygbiv> but it has no integrated project management tools, beyond a built in wiki
[04:29] <frenchy> CrazyTux, so what purpose is the old drive serving?
[04:29] <CrazyTux> frenchy: backup drive
[04:29] <roygbiv> fossil-scm.org
[04:29] <hhassey> I have tried sudo stop vsftpd
[04:29] <hhassey> and works
[04:29] <CrazyTux> frenchy: I want it completely empty, and I already formated it... but it is still holding onto the MBR?
[04:29] <CrazyTux> for some reason
[04:29] <hhassey> but will it be enabled on next boot in?
[04:29] <ivanchuk> roygbiv: yeah, looking at that already. gforge was good too, but never got to play with their enterprise version.
[04:29] <CrazyTux> s/want/ it is /
[04:30] <frenchy> CrazyEddy, did you format it after you install ubuntu on the new drive?
[04:31] <CrazyTux> frenchy: yes
[04:31] <Nautilus> i have a 301 redirect happening and I can't figure out why, is someone around that would help me debug?
[04:31] <mmoebius> CrazyTux: How did you "format" the drive ?
[04:32] <frenchy> CrazyEddy, theres prolly just a grub entry still there, i doubt it still has any MBR info, just delete the grub entry
[04:32] <mmoebius> Nautilus: What url ?
[04:32] <Nautilus> mmoebius: its local
[04:32] <typemore> if you're using a solid state drive; what partations should be in solid sate?
[04:33] <mmoebius> Nautilus: so, local like "intranet" or liike "file" ?
[04:33] <CrazyTux> mmoebius: I used the ubuntu disk utility
[04:33] <CrazyTux> mmoebius: gtk stuff
[04:33] <kuku_> Hi
[04:33] <frenchy> CrazyTux, did you create a new file system on it?
[04:33] <CrazyTux> frenchy: yes ext4
[04:33] <kuku_> Have anyone tried to use Ubuntu one Cloud?
[04:34] <frenchy> CrazyTux, just delete the grub entry for it
[04:34] <Nautilus> mmoebius: hrm, its a ubuntu PC for web dev, using vhosts for each site then an entry in hosts to see the assigned domain name.
[04:34] <mmoebius> CrazyTux: sorry, don't know that. I am lurkiong around on lower levels usuallly :-(
[04:34] <CrazyTux> frenchy: for some reason it is also /dev/sda still?
[04:34] <CrazyTux> frenchy: shouldnt it be /dev/sdc being the 3rd?
[04:34] <kuku_> I signed up in the web but I cannot get it connected to my box
[04:34] <frenchy> CrazyTux, what do you mean
[04:34] <CrazyTux> frenchy: this old drive is in my 3rd SATA spot
[04:34] <WXZ> E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[04:35] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Ok,then you hget the 301 from one of the web servers you queried, most likely. Waht server is running and do you have log/debug opoutput from that server ?
[04:35] <frenchy> CrazyTux, what is the new hd listed as?
[04:35] <CrazyTux> frenchy: sdb, and sdc (I bought two of them) the Ubuntu OS is on sdb
[04:35] <CrazyTux> frenchy: but physically it is in the SATA port 1 for sdb so shouldnt it be SDA?
[04:35] <Inazad> I have downloaded the eclipse for C++ from the software' prog, when I try a simple Hello World project, I get the "Launch failed. Binary not found"
[04:35] <Inazad> why ?
[04:36] <Nautilus> server? apache2.  I made about 10 of these before, then I made one where I was experimenting with redirection within a subfolder, now any site I create does the redirect even to the base url.
[04:36] <NOMADICUS> I have just installed ArtistX.  It has a great look to it, unfortunatly the astetics cause visiual imparement for me when I use Firefox.  How can I change the color scheme in Firefox?
[04:36] <mmoebius> frenchy: CrazyTux:  Do you maybe have an empty disk but only two entries in grub ?  try 'update-grub', then reboot
[04:36] <frenchy> CrazyTux, im not sure how dev ids get chosen, but if the old drive was there before it probably just didnt change, if you really created a new filesystem on i doubt there is any MBR info and it should be safe just to remove the grub entry for it
[04:37] <at05gt> is there a program that will allow me to import playlists from itunes on my windows partition?
[04:37] <CrazyTux> frenchy: yea there is definitely nothing on the old drive
[04:37] <CrazyTux> frenchy: its been formated several times in attempt to get rid of the MBR entry.
[04:37] <Nautilus> mmoebius: Oops i responded above, without your nick
[04:38] <mmoebius> Nautilus: can you please .... nick ... ok... got it
[04:38] <CrazyTux> frenchy: where is the physical file to update?  I dont see anything in /boot/grub/grub.conf or /etc/default/grub
[04:38] <frenchy> CrazyTux, its probably just a grub entry that was left, you could try reinstalling grub
[04:38] <CrazyTux> frenchy: here let me reboot, will only take 1 minute
[04:38] <roygbiv> at05gt aren't itunes playlists in a standard format? you can probably just copy the playlist files straight to your ubuntu partition
[04:38] <frenchy> CrazyTux, you might have to do some research
[04:38] <at05gt> m3u or pls most likely ya?
[04:38] <mmoebius> Nautilus: If you (temporarily) remove all redirect statements from the server's config. does it still throw a 301 ?
[04:38] <roygbiv> i believe so yes
[04:39] <mmoebius> Nautilus: you should take a look at the server's access log (waht the server thinks what you asked ist for)
[04:39] <Nautilus> i have gotten rid of the redirect test I did.  I have even grepped for the string, not in /etc anywhere
[04:39] <Nautilus> mmoebius: I just see the rewritten url in the log
[04:39] <kristiina> hi. could somebody tell me how to bring back system menu on the menu in ubontu 10.04 netbook?
[04:39] <mmoebius> Nautilus: And then you should make a hard guess as to which parts of your config fit that request and which don't
[04:39] <kristiina> i deleted it in menu editor
[04:39] <CrazyTux> frenchy: ok im back
[04:39] <at05gt> roygbiv: ill take a look thanks, im not usin rhythmbox cause it doesnt have an EQ built in, so im using exaile it it messes up my ID3 tags
[04:40] <frenchy> CrazyTux, are you on 10.04?
[04:40] <CrazyTux> frenchy: yes
[04:40] <mmoebius> Nautilus: User wireshark to get the url the server has been asked for
[04:40] <Nautilus> wget show it to me
[04:40] <frenchy> CrazyEddy, it uses grub 2 and its more complicated than grub 1 you might need to do some research
[04:41] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Is thera a redirect possible in a .htaccess file (I'm not sure if that's possible)
[04:41] <mmoebius> ?
[04:41] <kristiina> how to edit menu when menu editor is no longer on the screen?
[04:41] <Nautilus> mmoebius: yea, thats where I was doing it, but that folder is gone now. Hold on, making a paste of the wget
[04:41] <CrazyTux> frenchy: http://cryy.com/images/MBR-Screenshot.png
[04:42] <mmoebius> Nautilus: attach a part of the log file too, please
[04:42] <ivanchuk> that's a massive monitor, CrazyEddy
[04:42] <ivanchuk> erl CrazyTux
[04:42] <CrazyTux> ivanchuk: dual 24"
[04:42] <ivanchuk> CrazyTux: and i am looking at it on a 15" :)
[04:43] <CrazyTux> ;o)
[04:43] <Nautilus> mmoebius: heres the wget: http://pastebin.com/4hYTYpP6
[04:43] <frenchy> CrazyTux, what is this supposed to show me?
[04:44] <ivanchuk> that he has 26GB swap!
[04:44] <CrazyTux> frenchy: http://cryy.com/images/MBR-Screenshot2.png
[04:44] <CrazyTux> frenchy: this is the view of the other drive
[04:44] <CrazyTux> frenchy: see how they both say Partitiong: Master Boot Record?
[04:44] <mmoebius> Nautilus: i guess system/files/private/hydroplanepurple/htdocs or parts of it are not in the config, nowhere ?
[04:45] <Inazad> I have downloaded the eclipse for C++ from the software' prog, when I try a simple Hello World project, I get the "Launch failed. Binary not found"
[04:45] <at05gt> roygbiv: only thing ive found off my windows partition is the XML file for my entire library
[04:45] <roygbiv> is that still xml? i thought apple switched to sqlite for that
[04:45] <frenchy> CrazyEddy, my external HD says that. i would assume all HDs say that, when you boot up does it ask you to choose an alternate OS?
[04:45] <mmoebius> Inazad: did the project compile ?
[04:46] <Inazad> hmm how to know ?
[04:46] <Inazad> I'm new to Eclipse
[04:46] <Nautilus> mmoebius: the vhost has DocumentRoot /home/myname/sites/hydroplanepurple/htdocs
[04:46] <CrazyTux> frenchy: yes... it does until I edited /etc/default/grub (to ONLY pick the 1st one automatically)
[04:46] <CrazyTux> frenchy: and not show me that screen
[04:46] <at05gt> roygbiv: im trying to open it with open office gimme a sec
[04:46] <mmoebius> Inazad: try Ctrl-B
[04:46] <HomeBoy> can someone help with this registration process?
[04:46] <kristiina> could somebody help? i removed system icon from the main menu and now i can't edit icons on the menu? how to bring it back or how to run main menu?
[04:46] <frenchy> CrazyTux, im pretty sure there is not bootloader installed on that drive just a leftover grub entry
[04:46] <Inazad> mmoebius, I have an error like : "make: ***[src/Hello world.o] Error 127
[04:47] <CrazyTux> frenchy: so I just need to read up on Grub2 and remove it
[04:47] <WXZ> I somehow destroyed my sources.list file
[04:47] <CrazyTux> I assume
[04:47] <WXZ> how do I fix it?
[04:47] <at05gt> roygbiv: oh screw that crap, its a full parse of the entire library in code
[04:47] <mmoebius> Inazad: Then your c-code ist wrong. fix it, recompile and when that finishes without error, run the program
[04:47] <at05gt> no way ill get playlist data off that
[04:47] <PyjamaSpank> my start-up and close-down screen seem to have the wrong resolution, any ideas how to make it look good? It's a 1680x1050 and it works when I use Ubuntu on another PC, same monitor
[04:47] <Inazad> I think it doesn't found g++
[04:47] <frenchy> CrazyTux, if it bothers you that much then yeah, i dont know why they changed grub so much, there are a lot more files now
[04:48] <Inazad> bin/sh: g++: not found
[04:48] <at05gt> does anybody know where itunes saves its playlist files on a windows partition?
[04:48] <CrazyTux> frenchy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Removing%20Entries%20from%20Grub%202 found it
[04:48] <CrazyTux> frenchy: so looks like your right, just stupid entries.
[04:49] <mmoebius> Nautilus: can you please grep like            'grep -inr "system/files/private" /path/to/apache/config/directory'
[04:49] <CrazyTux> frenchy: well the reason it originally bothered me until I found the "skip it fix" is because my keyboard I use does not respond @ Bios or at Grub selection
[04:49] <CrazyTux> frenchy: so I would have to sit there and wait.
[04:49] <kristiina> how to run main menu editor from terminal?
[04:50] <Nautilus> mmoebius: thats in /etc, right?
[04:50] <frenchy> CrazyTux, from what youre telling me thats what it sounds like, creating a new FS on a drive should wipe everything out
[04:51] <Inazad> mmoebius, see the error ?
[04:51] <frenchy> CrazyTux, i recently looked into editing grub entries in Grub2 and it gave me a headache
[04:51] <Nautilus>  /etc
[04:51] <CrazyTux> frenchy: haha
[04:51] <mmoebius> Nautilus: the folder where your apache config resides. How in all heavens do you configure your apache ?
[04:51] <roygbiv> kristiina, gconf-editor
[04:51] <Nautilus> well i do it in /etc/apache2/sites-available
[04:51] <mmoebius> Inazad: You mean "error 127" ?
[04:52] <Inazad> mmoebius, I think it doesn't find the g++
[04:52] <frenchy> CrazyTux, im sure they had reasons for the drastic changes but i dont like them!
[04:52] <Nautilus> mmoebius: but those are just my vhosts
[04:52] <kristiina> roygbiv: and then what should i do? i want to enable system icon on the main menu so i can edit icon on the menu?
[04:52] <Nautilus> mmoebius: the string is not found within /etc (using -inr)
[04:53] <CrazyTux> frenchy: yea ;o)
[04:53] <frenchy> CrazyTux, i think they changed the way it sees devices too, like grub 1 would be hd0,0 for sda1 but grub2 it would be hd0,1
[04:53] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Before any debugging can take place, you must know where the config of the running apache process comes from. If it's ... was that a vhost or vservers ?
[04:53] <at05gt> roygbiv: ya man all i found was the XML file no M3U or PLS's, im at a lose here cause ive got some nice PL's i made on itunes and i really dont wanna load up my windows partition cause it takes like 20 minutes to log into it
[04:54] <at05gt> Vista Blows, that is all.
[04:54] <mmoebius> Inazad: you have ubuntu 10.04 ?
[04:54] <Inazad> yes
[04:54] <Nautilus> mmoebius: I have a set of files in /etc/apache2/sites-available that use <VirtualHost *:80> and a few directives, not sure of the exact terminology, just know I copy them and change the DocumentRoot and ServerName
[04:54] <mmoebius> Inazad: try 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[04:55] <xbonesx> Hi, I recenetly installed ubuntu 9.04 and selected it to be installed on a second partition. I then decided that I didn't want it on its own partition and rather installed inside my current os(win7). Now i get a grub 22 error on boot, and can't access win7. I tried to run the dvd for win7 using the recovery tools but it tells me that i don't have an OS isntalled. Can anyone assist me with this please? Thanks in advance.
[04:55] <at05gt> you should never install linux and windows on the same partition
[04:55] <Inazad> mmoebius, already done
[04:55] <at05gt> there like 2 dogs circling each other in a park
[04:55] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Oh, so you haven't made up the system ? Then you will have a hard time :-(
[04:55] <Inazad> mmoebius, I get the same error
[04:55] <Nautilus> made up the system??
[04:56] <Inazad> don't understand damn
[04:56] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: What did you do exactly?
[04:56] <mmoebius> Nautilus: made up the system for copy-and pasting vhosts :-) Well, you'll have to understand the configuration or you cannot debug it. The abpache library is big and comprehensive
[04:56] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: PM please?
[04:57] <mmoebius> Inazad: what does 'which g++' give you ?
[04:57] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: Why?
[04:57] <glassresistor> xbonesx: you've busted youve box sorry
[04:57] <Inazad> usr/bin/g++
[04:57] <Nautilus> mmoebius: whats to make up re: copying a file?
[04:57] <at05gt> xbonesx: never install 2 OS on the same partition, they fight it out and one will lose
[04:57] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: so i dont have to deal with others comments ^^^
[04:58] <Nautilus> mmoebius: the system/files/private string is NOT in my setup
[04:58] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: yeah ok since, people here are  making silly comments and such
[04:58] <Inazad> the folder where I extract eclipse is on the desktop
[04:58] <at05gt> sebsebseb: how was my comment sil.......... nevermind
[04:58] <xbonesx> at05gt: Ubuntu has an option to be installed within windows and its given a boot option on startup.
[04:58] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: plus I know partition stuff well :)
[04:58] <sebsebseb> at05gt: not so much yours, but someone else
[04:58] <mmoebius> Nautilus: that is strange because apache seems to pull it from somewhere.
[04:58] <xbonesx> but i didn't take that route
[04:58] <at05gt> xbonesx: its still not wise to install 2 OS on the SAME partition
[04:58] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Did apache get srestarted recently ?
[04:59] <sebsebseb> at05gt: thats not even possible I guess
[04:59] <xbonesx> originally i didnt that is why im having this issue
[04:59] <sebsebseb> at05gt: since one will wipe over the other?
[04:59] <Nautilus> mmoebius: exactly! Thats my problem. It's like its cached
[04:59] <sebsebseb> at05gt: unless its Wubi of course
[04:59] <Nautilus> mmoebius: I've restarted it many times over a few days trying to figure this out
[04:59] <Nautilus> reboots too
[04:59] <at05gt> sebsebseb: they either wipe over each other or youll get massive errors as they overwrite each others system files
[04:59] <xbonesx> I installed on a second partition and then deleted it, and now grub gives error 22.
[04:59] <mmoebius> Inazad: 'which' gave you the location for g++ that means it is installed and in the path, so g++ can be found and is useable. I am sorry but don't know what the error could be
[05:00] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: installed what on a second partition Ubuntu?
[05:00] <Nautilus> mmoebius: any new VirtualHost I make has this problem.  The ones I made before I experimented with Rewrite in an .htaccess file still work properly
[05:00] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: Yes
[05:00] <at05gt> xbonesx: your most likely going to have to repair or reinstall both OS, on separate partitions
[05:00] <HomeBoy> where is the "server box" im supposed to type in for registration?
[05:00] <xbonesx> at05gt: Win7 is still active and i can access it if i boot hirens bootcd
[05:00] <mmoebius> Nautilus: then start it with a no-vhost config file that uses a different document root for testing purposes. Ther you put nothing. Get a 404 error to test :-)
[05:00] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: ok was Ubuntu on there before at all?
[05:01] <xbonesx> and hirens gives me an option to boot win7
[05:01] <Inazad> damn
[05:01] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: and whats this boot cd?
[05:01] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: on win7 partition, no. on a second partition i created yes.
[05:01] <at05gt> xbonesx: ya i dont know about win 7, what does it do when you try to boot win 7? and what os are you inside right now?
[05:01] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: ok why were you putting it on again?
[05:01] <Nautilus> mmoebius: not completely sure what you mean.
[05:01] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: and no you can't just put it on a Windows 7 partition, whilst keeping it there
[05:02] <xbonesx> at05gt: I'm on live cd at the moment.
[05:02] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Are the virtualhost's matched ? e.g. is it the right virtualhost that gest executed ? Is it http or do you try https ?
[05:02] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: plus Ubuntu isn't even meant to be instaled onto Windows file systems
[05:02] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: ok live cd perfect
[05:02] <at05gt> xbonesx: does 7 boot at all?
[05:02] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: show us gparted
[05:02] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: system > administration > partitition editor
[05:02] <sebsebseb> !screenshot  | xbonesx
[05:02] <CrazyTux> frenchy: thanks for the help by the way!
[05:02] <xbonesx> ok scratch what i want to do once i get win7 working again, i just need to figure out how to edit the grub so it will se my win7 OS
[05:02] <CrazyTux> good night all.
[05:03] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: Windows 7   might be gone or something, lets find out, show the partitions :)
[05:03] <xbonesx> I cant take a screen shot of the boot screen...
[05:03] <hanasaki> any package read epub? mobi?
[05:03] <xbonesx> one sec
[05:03] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: you can of gparted on a live cd?
[05:03] <Nautilus> mmoebius: should be right virtualhost, pretty simple setup.  I dont use http:// or https:// in the ServName, if thats what you mean.  Just dev.example.com.   Oh and FWIW 'localhost' in the browser works right ("It Works!")
[05:03] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: I thought I read that you were on t he live cd?
[05:03] <uLinux> :)
[05:03] <xbonesx> gparted, ok one sec
[05:03] <at05gt> xbonesx: if anyboy can help you solve this problem its the super nerds in this channel
[05:03] <sebsebseb> at05gt: I don't know about you, but I done loads of partition stuff and with other people
[05:04] <uLinux> sory offtopic but super nerds it's the first time i hear
[05:04] <mmoebius> Nautilus: stop apache. become root and run it by hand: apache2 -f /a/simple/config/file and then you have something to test
[05:04] <at05gt> sebsebseb: ya im not that knowledgable, i do know that installing 2 os on the same partition is bad mojo :)
[05:05] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: how do i start gpart UI
[05:05] <thecdggseries> hey wich is the ubuntu channel???
[05:05] <sebsebseb> xbonesx:  so on the Live CD
[05:05] <mmoebius> Nautilus: You know that if e.g. you use https://, you cannot use virtualhosts anymore because of the certificates ?
[05:05] <xbonesx> cant find it ans syntac says its installed
[05:05] <Nautilus> mmoebius: what goes in the config file?
[05:05] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: in the live session.  system > administration > partition editor
[05:05] <thecdggseries> sorry the spanish
[05:05] <avg_guy> what app should I use to do a mass file rename in ubuntu 10.04?
[05:05] <at05gt> sebseseb: i went a step further then just parts and installed Ub on a separate drive lol
[05:05] <Nautilus> i dont use https://.
[05:05] <uLinux> !es > thecdggseries
[05:05] <chrowe> is there a way to "select best server" from a minimal install?
[05:06] <chrowe> avg_guy: command line or desktop?
[05:07] <avg_guy> desktop would be more like it but if c/l is better i take it
[05:07] <Nautilus> mmoebius: How to stop apache?  "apache2 -k stop" tells me "bad user name..."
[05:07] <Kendalja> howdy
[05:07] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: found it?
[05:07] <Kendalja> What is a good music player
[05:07] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: http://i52.tinypic.com/8wwfq1.png
[05:07] <Kendalja> to use
[05:07] <sebsebseb> Kendalja: Rythombox which is default, or Banshee
[05:08] <teege> Banshee
[05:08] <mmoebius> Nautilus: how about 'sudo service httpd stop' ?
[05:08] <xbonesx> the 20gb used to be the ubuntu partiton but i delted it
[05:08] <sebsebseb> and yeah Amarok even for those that don't mind installing KDE stuff, I guess
[05:08] <chrowe> avg_guy: I have used the rename command explained here http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-bulk-rename-files-in-linux-in-the-terminal but not the GUI packages
[05:08] <mmoebius> Nautilus: I don't run apache on ubunt, so i miss out some ubuntu specicific details
[05:09] <Nautilus> mmoebius: service: command not found
[05:09] <frenchy> Nautilus, have you tried service apache stop
[05:09] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: and like i said i can boot win7 if i boot my hirens bootusb device and select an option from it that says something about loading win7.
[05:09] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: ok no Ubuntu on there at all, only Windows partitions
[05:09] <mmoebius> Nautilus: what os ?
[05:09] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: and yes without
[05:09] <avi_> Hey guys, I'm currently developing an app in PyGTK, and I think somehow my code using pynotify messed up my OSD notify. I used pynotify to send many OSD notify messages, but I think there's some sort of bug in OSD-Notify. I already tried killall osd-notify.. what else can I do
[05:09] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: correct
[05:10] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: an Ubuntu partition you won't have the /boot where Grub is installed
[05:10] <Nautilus> mmoebius: erm, Ubuntu 8.04 LTS
[05:10] <avg_guy> on another after a right click write to disk it never ejects the disk I have to do it manually is there a reason for this
[05:10] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: except for the tiny bit of Grub that goes on your MBR Master Boot Record, and so yes Windows won't boot up either
[05:10] <kristiina> now to enable system icon from main menu in gconf-editor in ubuntu 10.04 netbook ed?
[05:10] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: i need to edit the MBR
[05:10] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: not quite
[05:10] <mmoebius> Nautilus: oh, ubuntu "stale" :-P   Nevermind ;-) That's fine with me
[05:10] <xbonesx> sebsebseb:?
[05:10] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: if you re install Ubuntu, the MBR will be sorted out
[05:11] <MIH1406> In the first installation of Ubuntu the USpash has a good resolution. But after updating the resolution changed and became larger. How can I change the USplash resolution?
[05:11] <mmoebius> Nautilus: try 'sudo /etc/init.d/httpd stop'
[05:11] <Nautilus> mmoebius: yea an upgrade fubar'd it so I went back
[05:11] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: figured that but i dont want linux on a seperate partition
[05:11] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: why not?
[05:11] <mmoebius> Nautilus: or 'sudo /etc/init.d/apache stop' ... or something like that.
[05:11] <Nautilus> mmoebius: yea that was it (the second one)
[05:11] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: cuz there is an option to create it inside windows and i have used that before, but today i decide to test out the operating speed if installed via seperate partition.
[05:11] <Nautilus> mmoebius: now i need to become root?
[05:12] <Nautilus> (how?)
[05:12] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: yes there is Wubi, but a proper partitiond install is much better in the long run
[05:12] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: plus think about it, what if Windows messes up enough? well so will Ubuntu
[05:12] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: Ya that's what a couple websites said thats why i tried it
[05:12] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: if you use Wubi
[05:12] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: and then you removed it why?
[05:13] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: Because the change to the MBR made it to where ubuntu was default loaded if not present at boot and i want it to be win7
[05:13] <Nautilus> mmoebius:  "become: command not found"   (chuckle... just dont know how)
[05:13] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: ok that was a bit of a silly reason to remove it, because you can change it so Windows is the default boot
[05:13] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: im not to familiar with linux, i paniced
[05:14] <chrowe> Nautilus: you should be able to run 'sudo su'
[05:14] <Nautilus> chrowe: got it, thanks
[05:14] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: so i can reisntalled the ubuntu on that second partition then edit the MBR?
[05:14] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: so that win7 is default?
[05:14] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: you edit Grub 2, when it is re installed, if you want Windows to be default boot
[05:15] <Nautilus> mmoebius: now I need a simple config file which you believe suits the need
[05:15] <smanning192> hey guys, has anyone upgraded to the beta of the newest version?
[05:15] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: from what i read on the net, ubuntu 9.04 runs grub one and is updated to grub2 without acknowledgement...
[05:15] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: as for how to do that, I can no probelm with the old version, not so sure about Grub 2,  theres a good page on the Ubuntu website about it, plus people can help from the channel anyway if neassery
[05:15] <myk_robinson> getting an error  sudo timestamp too far in the future. Have tried a few things i found online, but the problem comes back after reboot
[05:16] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: so do you know how to mess with grub1?
[05:16] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: right, but not much point putting 9.04 on now, even though  its a pretty good release, it is on the verge of not being supported anymore
[05:16] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: has until the end of next month when it comes to support and thats it
[05:16] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: ya i know, 10.?? something is out right?
[05:17] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: yep 10.04 is the current latest thats also Long Term Support
[05:17] <sebsebseb> !lts | xbonesx
[05:17] <xbonesx> !lts
[05:17] <Nautilus> and 8.04
[05:17] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: and 10.10 is on the verge of coming out,  that will be Sunday October 10th,  doesn't offer that much advantage over 10.04 though when it comes to the desktop version, from what I have seen, but might be worth the upgrade, when its time
[05:17] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: ok i will download it but for now i need to get that MBR fixed so i can boot win7
[05:18] <Nautilus> mmoebius: did I lose ya?  :(
[05:18] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: uhmm got another computer?
[05:18] <mmoebius> Nautilus: no
[05:18] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: yes
[05:18] <mmoebius> Nautilus: hang on a second.
[05:18] <Inazad> someone here know how to install eclipse for C++ and its working ?
[05:18] <Nautilus> mmoebius: np!  thanks :)
[05:18] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: after you hve re installed Ubuntu, Windows 7 will boot as well
[05:18] <mmoebius> Nautilus: I'm workin on the minimum thet still works
[05:19] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: correct but then i need to set it up so that win7 is default load if not present
[05:19] <Nautilus> mmoebius: ah, sweet
[05:19] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | xbonesx
[05:19] <mmoebius> Nautilus: you could prepare an empty directory
[05:19] <smanning192> xbonesx couldn't you edit the GRUB file?
[05:19] <Nautilus> ok
[05:19] <at05gt> sebsebseb: when 10.10 comes out can you upgrade 10.04 to it or do you have to install the new version?
[05:19] <sebsebseb> at05gt: 10.04 will be set up by default to only upgrade to an LTS, but it can be changed to do standard versions
[05:19] <xbonesx> smanning192: idk can i?
[05:20] <at05gt> sebsebseb: LTS?
[05:20] <sebsebseb> !lts | at05gt
[05:20] <sebsebseb> at05gt: where as stanard versions such as what 10.10 will be,  are only supported 18 months
[05:20] <xbonesx> brb going to review that link....
[05:20] <ZykoticK9_> sebsebseb, I love the volume/rhythmbox integration in 10.10</+1>
[05:20] <smanning192> xbonesx: um... run command, sudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.conf
[05:21] <xbonesx> smanning192: ok one sec
[05:21] <sebsebseb> ZykoticK9_: not tried it yet for real, when I put the RC on I will,  only done  vm testing so far of 10.10, and yeah no  music in my vm.  and  tried to get Unity to load on two computers from netbook CD, with no luck though as expected since the hardware
[05:21] <white_magic> hey, so ubuntu told me it wants to do a partial distribution upgrade (i have 10.10 beta right now) and it's been at the 'preparing to upgrade' stage for about 10 minutes, seemingly doing nothing. At the botton is says 'fetching is complete'..
[05:21] <at05gt> sebsebseb: so lucid will be upgradable to the next LTS version whenever its released
[05:21] <white_magic> i'd appreciate any input on this
[05:21] <ZykoticK9_> sebsebseb, i haven't had much luck testing unity in VMs either :(
[05:22] <white_magic> wait.. it's at an error msg now, never mind
[05:22] <sebsebseb> at05gt: by default it is set to only upgrade to 12.04 (April 2012 release)  or maybe thats 12.04.1 when it actasully would
[05:22] <sebsebseb> at05gt: however it can be changed so that it will show 10.10 as an upgrade
[05:22] <xbonesx> smanning192: I'm on live right now so its blank but after i do the install I will try again
[05:22] <sebsebseb> at05gt: and then that can be upgraded to
[05:22] <sebsebseb> xbonesx:  your partiton is a bit small for Ubuntu in a way
[05:22] <at05gt> sebsebseb: ill stick with what i just installed 2 days ago for now LOL
[05:23] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: or  well no its fine, as long as you don't start storing a load of big data in your Ubuntu partition
[05:23] <at05gt> is there a way like in vista to lower the volume of individual programs?
[05:23] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: well its curreently unpartitioend space, but  you would  re install Ubuntu in to that space
[05:23] <sebsebseb> at05gt: uhmm
[05:23] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: correct, and i might resize win7 partition, good size?
[05:24] <sebsebseb> at05gt: depends on the user,  I guess for most 10.10 is worth upgrading to really
[05:24] <au9ustine> at05gt: foobar2k
[05:24] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: and having a  big seperate /home can be useful for Ubuntu :)
[05:24] <at05gt> au9ustine: i just searched the software center and found something that looks like it does what i need
[05:24] <mmoebius> Nautilus: do you have /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?
[05:24] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: as well as other distros
[05:24] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: I'm starting to like ubuntu but i dont know enough about linux yet, still doing research...
[05:24] <Nautilus> mmoebius: yes
[05:24] <at05gt> au9ustine: pulseaudio volume control
[05:25] <au9ustine> at05gt: using wine, then install foobar2000
[05:25] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: /home makes re install easier,  I been explaining to uLinux about this recently,  and he linked to a good video as well on the subject :)
[05:25] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: I noticed in installation that you could choose something like /home, what is that all about?
[05:25] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: link for vid?
[05:26] <white_magic> what about fb2k & ubuntu?? is that possible?
[05:26] <at05gt> au9ustine: thanks but this pulse thing works perfect
[05:27] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: This is a bit old now since the video is for 9.04, however still relivent,  also I woudn't do 15GB like she has done, I would go with 10 or 12GB for /, then  a big seperate /home, and some swap space useually. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhnLk3gviWY
[05:27] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: as for what home is well, its your data, but also program user data
[05:27] <at05gt> au9ustin: PulseAudio Volume Control, it integrates into the sound prefeences and allows you to control the volume of each stream.
[05:27] <au9ustine> at05gt: alsa also is a good choice
[05:27] <at05gt> au9ustine: ill look into it TY
[05:28] <Diverdude> i am trying "sudo apt-get instal moonlight", but i get the error: Package moonlight is not available, but is referred to by another package.   How cani then see silverlight apps on linux?
[05:28] <au9ustine> white_magic: install foobar2k using wine
[05:29] <white_magic> well i assume you can install it using wine, but how well does it work?
[05:29] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: could you help me with one other thing?
[05:29] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: depends on what it is
[05:30] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: i have to go through some extra trouble to get my wireless card to work, I've figured it out but i dont know how to make the changes stay so that when i reboot everything is taken care of, in more depth...
[05:30] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: i have to change the order of some file
[05:30] <at05gt> xbonesx: card or USB adapter?
[05:30] <xbonesx> i have to have ndiswrapper run before ssb.
[05:30] <at05gt> just get Wicd
[05:30] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: card
[05:31] <at05gt> i had the same issue with my usb wireless adapter and i installed wicd and it works fine now
[05:31] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: maybe at05gt can help you with that
[05:31] <xbonesx> this is what i have to do one sec ill get you a link
[05:31] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: file:///media/XXTRIPXX/New%20folder/Feisty_No-Fluff.htm#Step%203:%20All%20BCM43xx%20-%20Configure%20NDISWrapper%20(and%20WPA%20Supplicant)
[05:32] <xbonesx> sebsebseb: shit sry its a file i saved ill get you the actual link...
[05:32] <at05gt> sebsebseb: wo wo wo dont go volunteering my noob ass for things
[05:32] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: no sorting out wireless issues in Ubuntu isn't my area
[05:32] <at05gt> lol
[05:32] <rww> !ohmy
[05:32] <at05gt> sorry
[05:33] <mmoebius> Nautilus: took me some time
[05:33] <Nautilus> mmoebius: sorry 'bout that
[05:33] <mmoebius> Nautilus: http://pastebin.ca/1942584
[05:33] <xbonesx> at05gt: do you think you would be able to assist me in getting the change to stay
[05:33] <sebsebseb> xbonesx: however I can give you this and yeah you might be able to get a WIndows driver working in nidiswrapper or something
[05:33] <sebsebseb> !wireless | xbonesx
[05:33] <mmoebius> Nautilus: but befor e runnin it, you have to fir in the right values for ServerRoot (what your outigianl apache2.conf has)
[05:34] <thune3> Diverdude: the plugin is in the universe repository, if that's what you are looking for: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/moonlight-plugin-mozilla
[05:34] <at05gt> xbonesx: i have no experience in such matters, i just installed Ub 2 days ago, sorry, id love to help you but im not sure id be of any use
[05:34] <mmoebius> Nautilus: and you'llh a to point Documentroot and the <Directory ...>  statement to the empty directory you prepared
[05:34] <xbonesx> at05gt: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZkGf43ht
[05:34] <at05gt> xbonesx: looks greek to me
[05:35] <xbonesx> at05gt: and this is the code i have to run to get the changes to stay...
[05:35] <Kane_hart> does 9 Mbps sound right for disk write lol
[05:35] <at05gt> xbonesx: as i said a sec ago i installed Ub 2 days ago, so im not much help, i do apologize
[05:35] <xbonesx> at05gt: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aNZdkpyv
[05:35] <xbonesx> at05gt: oh sry i didnt get your messeges
[05:36] <Nautilus> mmoebius: I save this in the empty dir I made?
[05:36] <mmoebius> Nautilus: And, you' ll have to change "user" and "group" if you have them
[05:36] <UbuXubu> how do i register?
[05:36] <mmoebius> Nautilus: you can save the pastebin e.g.  in your home directory
[05:36] <at05gt> xbonesx: its cool, id love to help but my skills in linux are lacking
[05:36] <sebsebseb> !register | UbuXubu
[05:37] <mmoebius> Nautilus: The server's config should never be in the "document root" and the empty directory you made will be the new "document root" for the test setup
[05:37] <UbuXubu> aa
[05:37] <xbonesx> at05gt: all good my man
[05:37] <UbuXubu> i am registered?
[05:37] <Nautilus> mmoebius: but it's just a test
[05:37] <mmoebius> Nautilus: yes, sure
[05:37] <mmoebius> Nautilus: just a test
[05:38] <mmoebius> Nautilus: and you won't yhange apaches config permanently that is why you will start apache with the -f option on the console
[05:38] <UbuXubu> why does it say i am unregistered?
[05:38] <xbonesx> need someone with wireless exp. to tell me why this code isnt working to make change stay, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=aNZdkpyv
[05:38] <hollanikrow> gooday hiredgun555
[05:38] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Have you made the cahnges i Outlined abvove ?
[05:38] <Blue1> xbonesx: no wireless expert but you have install mis-spelled
[05:39] <Nautilus> mmoebius: going over them now
[05:39] <rww> UbuXubu: you're not identified with nickserv.
[05:39] <Glen__> hello all  got a question.   I just installed Ubuntu   I looked at the Ubuntu One.   and started it.  I got the email and entered the code.  I get the screen Confirm computer access and it talkes abut the free ubuntu one 2gb plan.   When I hit the Subscrib and add this computer button, I get an error saying it cant establish a connection to the server at localhost:51111.
[05:40] <Glen__> Is there a problem with the website?  why is it wanting to go to localhost?
[05:40] <xbonesx> Blue1: hahaha i copied from wiki docs on ubuntu website
[05:40] <xbonesx> Blue1: wifi*
[05:40] <Blue1> xbonesx: yeah that doesn't always work - but I actually try my code before I post it onto pkill-9.com
[05:41] <dax2112rush> Can I install a package ignoring a dependency (ie ignore wine1.0 since I have wine1.3)?
[05:42] <Blue1> dax2112rush: your question is about as clear as the bottom of the hudson.  if you have wine 1.3 installed, why are you fooling around with 1.0?
[05:42] <sacho> dax2112rush: No, and it's not necessary that 1.3 is backward compatible with 1.0
[05:42] <MIH1406> In the first installation of Ubuntu the USpash has a good resolution. But after updating the resolution changed and became larger. How can I change the USplash resolution?
[05:42] <Nautilus> mmoebius: ok, for User & Group I think they're www-data but not sure. How to confirm?
[05:43] <laxative> hey everyone
[05:43] <laxative> i just started up a blog about ubuntu.  wanna see?
[05:43] <mmoebius> Nautilus: they' re in /etc/apache2/envvars
[05:43] <mmoebius> Nautilus: I think www-data is right for both
[05:43] <dax2112rush> Blue1: I want to install a package with a dependency to the wine1.0 but It won't let me install it since I have wine1.3 installed (and I suppose wine1.3 has a conflicts with wine1.0)
[05:43] <dax2112rush> sacho: it won't let me do it
[05:43] <Nautilus> mmoebius: yup, www-datat
[05:44] <Blue1> dax2112rush: dare I ask, what are you trying to install?
[05:44] <dax2112rush> Blue1: dssi-vst
[05:44] <Nautilus> mmoebius: -t of course
[05:44] <studentz> Hi there I update to flash 64   “Square” and  it is not working for me.
[05:44] <Blue1> dax2112rush: what is it?
[05:44] <mmoebius> Nautilus: The empty directory that you prepared should be 'chown www-data:www-data' then
[05:44] <laxative> anyone?
[05:44] <dax2112rush> Blue1: an adapter for windows Vst audio plugins
[05:44] <UbuXubu> yes i am identified
[05:45] <detrix> Hi, I have added a second hard drive.  I need to know how to format it (should I use ext3 or ext4?) and then add it to the /etc/fstab file.
[05:45] <Blue1> studentz: do you have a 64 bit system?
[05:45] <studentz> Blue1 Yep
[05:45] <UbuXubu> if i am not identified the nhow do i do it?
[05:45] <Blue1> dax2112rush: yea you need more an expert in that -- wine has worked well for almost everything I throw at it, except of course, it has no usb support (for that I use virtual box)
[05:45] <rww> UbuXubu: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#identify
[05:46] <Glen__>  hello all  got a question.   I just installed Ubuntu   I looked at the Ubuntu One.   and started it.  I got the email and entered the code.  I get the screen Confirm computer access and it talkes abut the free ubuntu one 2gb plan.   When I hit the Subscrib and add this computer button, I get an error saying it cant establish a connection to the server at localhost:51111
[05:46] <kristiina> how to run gnome main menu from terminal?
[05:46] <Blue1> studentz: where did you get the 64 bit flash from?
[05:46] <Glen__>  Is there a problem with the website?  why is it wanting to go to localhost?
[05:46] <mmoebius> detrix: first, partition the drive. use fdisk or gparted
[05:46] <dax2112rush> Blue1: ok, thansk anyways
[05:46] <mmoebius> detrix: You want the driva as one big data space, i guess ?
[05:47] <detrix> mmoebius, correct.
[05:47] <_Ray_> Hey. What's an easy way to see a binary file's.. binary? Meaning, sort of like hexdump or od, but literally "00101001 10000110", etc.
[05:47] <mmoebius> detrix: then make just one partition.
[05:47] <studentz> Blue1 first try from adobe site and later I use sevenmachine ppa
[05:47] <NoTownKasper> Ok, I've got a show-stopper problem here. I just installed Samba and NFS and the associated libs...yet Ubunutu 10.04 seems to think that they aren't installed. Network sharing is a must...so any help would be appreciated.
[05:47] <mmoebius> detrix: fdisk will do. Do you know the devices /dev/sdXYZ name ?
[05:47] <i_is_broke> can you use the regular disk to install with the same /home partition or do you need the alternate?
[05:47] <sacho> _Ray_: I use GHex, if you're using gnome.
[05:47] <_Ray_> Thanks :)
[05:48] <sacho> _Ray_: man xxd also
[05:48] <laxative> mmoebius, i just started a blog about ubuntu and i'm trying to spread the word.  want to see ?
[05:48] <Blue1> studentz: i THOUGHT that they had quit making 64 bit flash unavil.
[05:48] <UbuXubu> rww: i configured my client with my password so it does it all for me?
[05:48] <detrix> mmoebius, I have gparted formating it now......its late for me, and I guess I overlooked how to get gparted to format it....;)
[05:49] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: you might try the article pointed to here:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=309
[05:49] <detrix> mmoebius, but I may need some help with the fstab entry if you dont mind.
[05:49] <mmoebius> detrix: no problem
[05:49] <studentz> Blue1 they release today the las beta. Most of the people does not have any problem exept me
[05:49] <Nautilus> mmoebius: did the chown and stiff,  but I get an error on line 21 that /etc/apache isnt a valid ServerRoot
[05:49] <Nautilus> mmo err /etc/apache2
[05:49] <Blue1> i_is_broke: you can install /home/ under the root directory /, or it can be a seperate partition your choice
[05:49] <mmoebius> Nautilus: try making an empty director y for that, too.
[05:50] <Nautilus> i have the dir
[05:50] <Nautilus> I'm in it, in CLI
[05:50] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: That would be fine and dandy...except I can't configure something that isn't even showing as installed. :P
[05:50] <Blue1> studentz: you have a url for that?
[05:50] <mmoebius> And that emtpy directory should be writeable by sthe user www-data:www-data
[05:50] <Nautilus> it is
[05:50] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: sorry that seems to help a lot of people.
[05:50] <Nautilus> mmoebius: I did: chown -R www-data:www-data /home/brian/apachetest
[05:50] <rww> UbuXubu: assuming you did it right, you should get automatically identified on connect, yes
[05:50] <PerditaLupo> man ... okay i have ubuntu 10.04 loaded up and rarin to go.   it's good, i like it .... but i am stuck .... need something neat to do .... or at least .... pimp my ubuntu ?
[05:50] <mmoebius> Nautilus: ServerSoot /etc/apache2 is not empty :-(
[05:51] <laxative> mmoebius?
[05:51] <mmoebius> Nautilus: You may need another empty directory for "ServerRoot"
[05:51] <UbuXubu> rww: yes i went into my client and put my password there and when i log on it does not ask for my password
[05:51] <mmoebius> laxative: ok
[05:51] <studentz> Blue1 here is                labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/
[05:51] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Nothing to be sorry for...I actually tried something very similar...but it's like Ubuntu doesn't recognize that samba and samba-common are even installed. :(
[05:51] <Nautilus> mmoebius: Oh maybe I took you too literally, I copied it from apache.conf
[05:52] <laxative> http://www.tinyurl.com/2snvvs
[05:52] <Blue1> studentz: just d/l trying now
[05:52] <Nautilus> mmoebius: <mmoebius> Nautilus: but befor e runnin it, you have to fir in the right values for ServerRoot (what your outigianl apache2.conf has)
[05:52] <UbuXubu> its probably becasue the is my 2nd nickname rww?
[05:54] <mmoebius> laxative: That is a redirect to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/human_feces ... what's the fun about it ?
[05:54] <dax2112rush> Is it possible to force apt to ignore a given dependency?
[05:54] <mmoebius> Nautilus: I was wrong on that
[05:54] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Try an empty directory for ServerRoot
[05:55] <rww> UbuXubu: If you followed the instructions I linked to, it'd have you put in your username too, so it wouldn't matter.
[05:55] <Nautilus> mmoebius: doing that
[05:55] <Nautilus> chown'd it too
[05:55] <mmoebius> mmoebius: An empty directory that is different from DocumentRoot
[05:55] <NoTownKasper> The one problem with linux becoming more popular...more morons usin it who think fecal-links are funny. :\
[05:55] <mmoebius> Nautilus: very good.
[05:55] <mmoebius> Nautilus: is apache now willing to start any better ?
[05:56] <mmoebius> Nautilus: and i suppose you start apache2 with sudo so it can claim port 80, right ?
[05:57] <Nautilus> apache2: Syntax error on line 23 of apachetestconfig: Cannot load /home/brian/apachetestserver/modules/mod_actions.so into server: /home/brian/apachetestserver/modules/mod_actions.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or direct
[05:57] <Nautilus> i think my ServerRoot has to go back
[05:57] <Nautilus> just like ya said the first time
[05:57] <hanasaki> how can I turn off HTTP_VIA    going out in squid?
[05:58] <mmoebius> Nautilus: I am getting a llittle tired. Need sleep badly . It's almost 7'o clock in the morning here
[05:58] <Nautilus> apache2: Syntax error on line 23 of apachetestconfig: Cannot load /etc/apache2/modules/mod_actions.so into server: /etc/apache2/modules/mod_actions.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:58] <detrix> mmoebius, Thanks again, I have the new drive mounted.
[05:58] <Nautilus> mmoebius: yea me too, man wtf.
[05:58] <Nautilus> mmoebius: tons of thanks for your help
[05:59] <laxative> http://www.tinyurl.com/2snvvs
[05:59] <mmoebius> Nautilus: Nevertheless, if you get that "simple" config working you can make dead-sure that no redirection occurs
[05:59] <Nautilus> mmoebius: yea, whats a week or so
[05:59] <NoTownKasper> Someone kline laxative?
[05:59]  * Nautilus sighs
[05:59] <tp43_> how do you identify, what is the command?
[05:59] <Nautilus> mmoebius: I do appreciate your effort, thanks
[05:59] <mmoebius> Nautilus: and you can then, steep-by step test adding your virtual servers into the almost empty , but virtualizeable, server config
[06:00] <IdleOne> NoTownKasper: why?
[06:00] <Blue1> studentz: just installed new flash seems to work fine
[06:00] <Haballo> I use xfce. My partions are not shwon at the side pane of the file manager
[06:00] <laxative> http://pastebin.com/f56a93969
[06:00] <Haballo> they are shown as folders
[06:01] <studentz> Blue1 Good for you but I still have the problem, I Have audio but no video
[06:01] <mmoebius> Have a double plus good and double plus productive day everybody ;-)
[06:01] <Haballo> can anybody help me pls?
[06:01] <will_> Hi. Anyone know of a program that can bulk convert m4a audio files (off iTunes) to mp3?
[06:01] <mmoebius_afk> !ask | Haballo
[06:01] <NoTownKasper> !op
[06:01] <IdleOne> NoTownKasper: yes?
[06:02] <NoTownKasper> IdleOne: We've got a genius posting some very nasty links to very objectionable, non-Ubuntu related material...example...pages about poop...anything that can be done about it?
[06:02] <rww> NoTownKasper: he's been removed from the channel already
[06:03] <IdleOne> NoTownKasper: I removed him already. if they are sending via PM I suggest you ignore them but feel free to join #ubuntu-ops to report it.
[06:03] <Haballo> I use xfce. My partions are not shwon at the side pane of the file manager, they are shown as folders, how can changer their icons?
[06:03] <NoTownKasper> Oh...well...apparently I'm a genius too...I have join/part messages throttled. My mistake and my apologies.
[06:04] <mmoebius_afk> Nautilus: Last words: If stuck, try to understand what apache2.cnf and all the other stuff throws at you. The original Documentation http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/ is good especially http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/quickreference.html
[06:04] <IdleOne> NoTownKasper: no worries :)
[06:04] <Nautilus> mmoebius_afk: but i havent changed anything else, it's like this string is stuck in-the-ether somewhere
[06:04] <Nautilus> mmoebius_afk: this box has been running 1-2 years.
[06:05] <i_is_broke> does gparted come on the regular disk?
[06:05] <Nautilus> mmoebius_afk: nites
[06:05] <Blue1> i_is_broke: yes on the live cd
[06:05] <mmoebius_afk> Nautilus: It ain't the ether, trust me. And don't run to "reinstalling" It's not Windows :-)
[06:05] <mmoebius_afk> g'night
[06:05] <i_is_broke> Blue1, ty
[06:05] <Nautilus> mmoebius_afk: no reinstalling, I know I want to fix it
 I use xfce. My partions are not shwon at the side pane of the file manager, they are shown as folders, how can changer their icons?
[06:06] <Nautilus> mmoebius_afk: it aint in my files!
[06:06] <Blue1> i_is_broke: it is NOT part of the netbook remix livecd however
[06:06] <IdleOne> Haballo: I don't know. you may want to try asking in #xubuntu
[06:06] <Blue1> i_is_broke: found that out hardway
 It's empty room
[06:07] <i_is_broke> Blue1, well since i am running a amd quad core i dont think i want the netbook.
[06:07] <IdleOne> Haballo: there are 50 users in #xubuntu
[06:08] <Blue1> i_is_broke: kewl but I ran into that problem on a netbook, stealing space from windows --
 really!! it was empty the last time I was in
[06:08] <i_is_broke> lol dont blame you
[06:08] <i_is_broke> thanks anyways...laters
[06:08] <NoTownKasper> Ok, so I have Samba installed as well as samba-common and the samba server configuration tool that Blue1 pointed me at, I have my folders configured to be shared but they're invisible to the windows machines on the local network...
[06:09] <IdleOne> Haballo: it may not be active at the moment but try joining and asking and if someone is around I am sure they will try to help
[06:09] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: okay network debugging 101 - can each machine ping each other?
 okay, thanks
[06:10] <icedtea> hello, is there a way to go from ubuntu -> kubuntu without reinstalling everything?
[06:10] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Sorry, I was missinformed, they're visible, but not accessable. and yes, they can ping eachother. :P
[06:11] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: okay.
[06:12] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: sometime it helps to put the host name of each machine in the hosts file - that has been a show stopper for me.
[06:12] <NoTownKasper> Mine or theirs?
[06:12] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: both
[06:13] <caken> my laptop using lucid, it's work fine after installing. but wireless device wont be active even i push the button. need your all help please
[06:13] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Well, that will be a fun one to try and walk my parents through...
[06:13] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Any other, easier suggestions to try first? lol
[06:14] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: nope -- I switched my folks over to linux a year ago - they are in their 80's -- yo might consider that
[06:14] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Paraphrased Error Message: Windows can see that Ubuntu-Desktop exists, but cannot find the folder.
[06:14] <st> and other question, can you trcommend me som e gui file manager, the lightr, the bertter?
[06:15] <icedtea> midnight commander
[06:15] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: easy file sharing in gnome:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=190
[06:16] <rabidweezle> with nvidia cards, if you want to use the restricted driver you have to disable the free one right?
[06:16] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: bah, link me to the article next time and not the wordpress bookmark. ;)
[06:16] <Blue1> rabidweezle: no you should just be able to enable the restricted dirver - that's all I've ever done.
[06:16] <white_magic> totally random question.. is there a commandline file text editor?
[06:16] <white_magic> (by default, in ubuntu)
[06:17] <rabidweezle> Blue1: maybe the restricted driver doesn't like my gtx 260M :(
[06:17] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: sorry that's the why my site is set up...
[06:17] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Actually, that article is what I tried the first time and it failed the exact same...so I came in here and followed your suggestion, even re-installed samba...and am having the same problem.
[06:17] <st> white_magic, nano, vim, ed
[06:17] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: ok
[06:17] <white_magic> ty
[06:17] <caken> i using acer aspire 2920z n install lucid lynx into that. but my wireless device wont active even when i push wireless button.
[06:18] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Error code 0x80070043 if that means anything, from the Windows Vista machine when trying to access a shared folder over the network. :P
[06:19] <st> is there some lightwayght file manager which can browse SMB network?
[06:20] <st> NoTownKasper, "network name not found"
[06:20] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: yeah seems to be a dns issue - adding the ips to the host file usually resolves the issues
[06:20] <NoTownKasper> ...
[06:20] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: YMMV
[06:21] <NoTownKasper> One of these days, things will work properly out of the box...</me grumbles.>
[06:21] <st> or you may just not play fool with hosts like in 1969 and just set up DNS
[06:21] <Blue1> bind9
[06:21] <frobisher> white magic yes there is nano
[06:21] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: I'm tired...in whole words please? :P
[06:22] <st> screw bind, dnsmasq will do fine
[06:22] <caken> how i know what wireless driver i used?
[06:23] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: bind9 is th name of the dns service in ubuntu however you issue MIGHT be resolved if it can usually get to the hosts.  that means adding the ip to /etc/hosts and  \Windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
[06:23] <st> hosts is deprecated
[06:24] <Blue1> St: ez fix though
[06:24] <etherealite_> hey I accidentally booted my system disk inside KVM and now it won't boot, How can i get this things working again?
[06:24] <caken> !wireless
[06:25] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: Ok...and what happens when we reboot in a different cycle and the router assigns me a different IP? Should I just drop in the first 6 or so IP's in the 192.168.1 block?
[06:25] <Nautilus> in 8.04LTS how do I empty the 'trashcan' aka 'lost+found' ?
[06:25] <UbuXubu> i am registered? why does this ubuntu-unreg thing happened?
[06:25] <Nautilus> i'm like damn thats a dumb Q, but I don't see it.
[06:25] <st> NoTownKasper, if you have router, you have dns+dhcp. just set windows to use DNS for NETBIOS name resolution
[06:25] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: you should use static ip reservations based on mac addresses in the router - so the same mac address always gets the same ip.  it depends on the router and software you are using however.
[06:26] <Nautilus> LOL, Oh! That trashcan (lower right)
[06:26] <st> is there some lightwayght file manager which can browse SMB network?
[06:26] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: I have no idea what the router is set up to do, nor do I have access to change it, and the person who does wouldn't even understand the term static IP...:\
[06:26] <Blue1> dns is both simple and complex at the same time.
[06:27] <Blue1> :-(
[06:27] <armyriad> What is the usual VNC server?
[06:27] <Blue1> armyriad: x11vnc
[06:27] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: I guess I get to go back to windows...sharing is a serious requirement and it needs to be point and click simple on all 3 machines. *sigh*
[06:28] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: sorry I wasn't able to help.
[06:29] <NoTownKasper> Blue1: No worries, and thanks for the assistance, I'm just dealing with completely computer illiterate roomates on a subject that even my understanding is a bit patchy.
[06:29] <icedtea> NoTownKasper: I've used samba quite a bit. Whats your issue again?
[06:29] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: I have not setup samba in over 3 years, when all my machines are now linux 24/7/365
[06:29] <NoTownKasper> icedtea: Simple answer Windows vista machine on a local network, can see but not access my shared folders.
[06:29] <white_magic> how can i force ubuntu to upgrade itself?
[06:30] <white_magic> it's having a hard time completing the partial upgrade process
[06:30] <white_magic> maybe it's because my wifi is flakey
[06:30] <st> NoTownKasper, 'what you mean, cannot access'?
[06:30] <Blue1> white_magic: what do  you mean upgrade, upgrade as in getting software updates, or upgrade is in going from one release to another?
[06:30] <NoTownKasper> St ...I mean it can't access the folder.
[06:30] <st> NoTownKasper, diagnostics?
[06:31] <white_magic> Blue1: i'm not 100% sure. i have 10.10 beta and it told me it wants to upgrade certain components, but it wasn't able to fetch them successfully
[06:31] <white_magic> now i can't find any place where i can force the upgrade to start again
[06:31] <Blue1> white_magic: you should take 10.10 issues to #ubuntu+1
[06:31] <NoTownKasper> st: error code 0x80070043 - network name cannot be found. paraphrased error message: windows can see the ubuntu desktop but can't find the folder.
[06:31] <white_magic> Blue1: it's kinda dead there :(
[06:31] <caken> how the way to know what wireless driver i used?
[06:31] <Blue1> icedtea: that a dns issue error code
[06:31] <rww> white_magic: Ubuntu Maverick discussion and support is in #ubuntu+1, not here. As a general rule, though, doing partial upgrades on a development version of Ubuntu is a good way to break things.
[06:31] <Nautilus> NoTownKasper: Sound like you need to get the Vista settings just right.  Vista is a pita there.  BTW, this is the #ubuntu channel
[06:32] <NoTownKasper> Nautilus: You're right...and I'm using Ubuntu and trying to configure it so the other systems can access it. Thanks for telling me what channel I joined though. :\
[06:32] <white_magic> haha, rww, well, it's ubuntu that told me to do the partial upgrade
[06:32] <icedtea> NoTownKasper: how did  you setup samba on the linux box?
[06:32] <Nautilus> NoTownKasper: sorry 'bout that bit, I see.
[06:33] <Nautilus> NoTownKasper: just sayin', it's probably the vista box not yours.
[06:33] <Blue1> NoTownKasper: another dumb question, you DID setup a samba password ritght? smbpass iirc
[06:33] <caken> is nobody know, or i just invisible?
[06:34] <Blue1> caken: sorry the question again.
[06:34] <SolarisBoy> is anyone running vim 7.3 & ubuntu 10.04?
[06:34] <st> NoTownKasper, have you switched Vista to Windows 95 compatibility mode?
[06:35] <SolarisBoy> how would i go about installing vim 7.3 i currently have 7.2 from repos
[06:35] <st> samba cannot be accessed from windows 98/NT4
[06:35] <caken> Blue1, i have acer aspire 2920z laptop and i using ubuntu lucid lynx into it. but the wireless device is wont active even i push the wireless button. u have idea to fix it?
[06:35] <SolarisBoy> actually, wow actually this is 6.3?
[06:35] <etherealite_> help I nuked my system.
[06:35] <Blue1> caken: what type of card to you have?
[06:36] <NoTownKasper> icedtea: First time I right-clicked the folder in nautilus and clicked 'share this folder' it prompted me to install the services and restart my session, so I did...and it flopped. So I reinstalled samba manually using apt-get install samba samba-common and again tried to share the folders and it flopped. So I tried the first step, but used sudo nautilus...and it flopped...so I manually installed samba and samba-common again and the
[06:36] <st> NoTownKasper, HAD setup your Vista box for working with WINDOWS 95 servers?
[06:36] <caken> i am not sure what is that. so how to know that?
[06:37] <Blue1> caken: let me get my netbook and we'll check
[06:37] <icedtea> caken: type 'lspci' at a command line
[06:37] <NoTownKasper> Guys...I appreciate all the help but I can't keep up with 5 people at once...lol
[06:37] <caken> icedtea, ok
[06:37] <Nastya> Hi everyone!
[06:38] <NoTownKasper> st: I don't know, but I doubt it...there hasn't been a '95 box around here since...well...'98 or so. lol
[06:38] <caken> !hi | Nastya
[06:39] <st> NoTownKasper, by default samba works like windows 95 server and vista should be setup to work with it
[06:39] <Nastya> Recommend me please a nice console e-mail client
[06:39] <rww> Nastya: mutt
[06:39] <Blue1> caken: lspci | grep Wireless
[06:39] <Nastya> I have found several ones but I don't know which is the best one
[06:39] <st> is there some lightwayght file manager which can browse SMB network?
[06:40] <caken> icedtea, yes. i see many line of it. lol
[06:40] <NoTownKasper> st: Well, I know previous versions of Ubuntu have been far simpler when it comes to sharing, as in right-click, share this folder...why this is suddenly so complex is beyond me.
[06:40] <white_magic> how has it changed?
[06:40] <st> NoTownKasper, because samba developers are lazy and totally lost behind
[06:40] <caken> icedtea, nothing happen
[06:41] <icedtea> NoTownKasper: I have Vista on my laptop, but my router fried the other day, otherwise I would try it out
[06:41]  * NoTownKasper is really losing his bloody patience...
[06:42] <st> NoTownKasper, I would use Vista for sharing files, it's much better and mere compatible
[06:42] <icedtea> NoTownKasper: let me see if I can find the power adapter to my switch
[06:43] <NoTownKasper> st: maybe I'm missing something here, but how can I offer files on my HD to other machines on the network without moving them to a shared folder on another machine, if my machine isn't configured to share files?
[06:44] <WillWill56> If I've got 600 MHz, 128MB RAM, and 2 GB SDD, would it be worth trying to install a flavour of Ubuntu?
[06:44] <caken> Blue1, nothing happened. i was type lspci. it's work but show many lines. which show what my wireless card type?
[06:44] <fratzbc> wihtouth all the fancy graph options
[06:44] <st> NoTownKasper, if you choosed to keep your files on Ubuntu machine, you cannot. live with consequences or set up vista properly
[06:45] <st> if I was an Ubuntu developer, I would put in the Network setup wizard to configure samba so it worked OOB, and not in its idiotic state it is now
[06:46] <Blue1> caken: lspci | grep Wireless only showed my wireless adapter: for example  01:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[06:46] <st> why ubuntu cannot just pirate the configuration wizards from opensuse ot mandriva? aren;t they gpled?
[06:47] <squarrel> Does 'Simple Backup config' make a clone of MBR?
[06:47] <IdleOne> !ot | st
[06:47] <leo> hey
[06:47] <leo> oh!
[06:47] <st> squarrel, no, it's just TAR frontend
[06:47] <NoTownKasper> st: So, basically, what you're saying is, that something that worked in previous versions of Ubuntu, that now, suddenly isn't working in 10.04, is somehow my fault for not trying to walk a couple of computer illiterate people through how to configure Vista? Thanks...but incorrect. :\
[06:48] <squarrel> st: ok
[06:48] <faizaff> I need some help for booting problem, can someone guide me
[06:48] <st> NoTownKasper, you setup it for them, they use it. problem solved
[06:49]  * NoTownKasper isn't going to explain, once again, that he doesn't have physical access to the machines, or that he shouldn't have to go through all of this for something that worked OOB previously. Kthnx.
[06:49] <faizaff> Earlier it started with blank screen, no text no splash, now it completly freezed no movement, pl
[06:50] <st> Blue1, bu he said he can browse shares from win machine, so it can see server and get shares list, it's not a dns problem
[06:50] <faizaff> Hi! anyone for me pl
[06:51] <WillWill56> Is there some kind of secret codeword I need to say to get someones attention in this channel, or are you all trying to focus on the one topic?
[06:51] <wasnik> hi i dont have sound on a newly installed ubuntu netbook please help
[06:52] <IdleOne> WillWill56: you might try Xubuntu or Lubuntu with those specs
[06:52] <st> WillWill56, had you paid us for answering your questions? guess not
[06:52] <IdleOne> st: drop the attitude please.
[06:52] <WillWill56> IdleOne: Thanks, I'll try that
[06:53] <wasnik> hi could someone let me know how to get sound on newly installed netbook
[06:53] <st> WillWill56, and no, only ubuntu will 'work', but you'll won't be able to run >2 programs simul;atneously
[06:53] <st> *Lubuntu
[06:53] <wasnik> hi could someone let me know how to get sound on newly installed netbook my soundcards are not detected
[06:53] <IdleOne> !sounds | wasnik
[06:53] <xbonesx> Is there anyone on with networking exp.?
[06:54] <WillWill56> st: Well the thing only cost $130 AUD and has a 7" screen, so I guess I wouldn't mind, just would have to use the alternate installer.
[06:54] <mobasher> xbonesx=}} fire away your question :)
[06:54] <st> WillWill56, also there will be crashes as it will kill various processes running out of memory
[06:54] <faizaff> Well someone for my booting problem pl.!
[06:54] <xbonesx> mobasher: I had to change the order for ssb and ndiswrapper and i need the changes to stay so when i reboot i don't have to input the codes again
[06:54] <wasnik> ubottu: I have checked the other links except http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin
[06:55] <dubey> hello
[06:55] <clint-> :)
[06:56] <mobasher> xbonesx=}} ssb ?? the security code for the wireless ?
[06:56] <juk> wtf, pidgin stores my gmail password in plain file ~/.purple/accounts.xml
[06:56] <IdleOne> juk: yup
[06:56] <IdleOne> juk: and they are not going to change that.
[06:56] <wasnik> ubottu: I didnt understand the dmix usage. ubuntu is not even detecting my soundcards
[06:56] <NoTownKasper> juk: That's why you never use pidgin for secure email accounts...
[06:56] <xbonesx> mobasher: not sure i follow this line of code to get things to work...
[06:57] <IdleOne> wasnik: ubottu is a robot. does not answer questions.
[06:57] <dubey> i am using ubuntu 10.4 since last 5Months, which is working good. But yesturday i enabled Bonjur in Pidgin and my system hanged up. I rebooted, tried again same problem, I uninstalled then reinstalled, tried again same problem
[06:57] <dubey> what i did wrong ?
[06:57] <elementzero> hey, i have a question
[06:57] <xbonesx> mobasher: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=kbsmejCs
[06:57] <halexander> Hello?
[06:57] <genewitch> i am trying to make an init.d script, and when start-stop-daemon tries to start the program it barfs "can't find config file" but when i type /path/to/program it works fine. everything is owned by root. should i change something else?
[06:57] <mobasher> xbonesx=}} i think there is a bug against that -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/188621
[06:58] <madfox> dubey 10.4? wow you must live in the future O.o
[06:58] <elementzero> Prior to updating, I had Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic and Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic (Recovery mode) as selectable in grub
[06:58] <elementzero> Now, in addition to that, I have Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-24-generic
[06:58] <IdleOne> madfox: how was that helpful?
[06:58] <elementzero> why did updating install another boot option
[06:58] <dubey> madfox: didn't get you ?
[06:59] <xbonesx> Also, could someone point me in the direction of some good new user guides for ubuntu and linux workings?
[06:59] <cfg> Hi
[06:59] <rww> !manual | xbonesx
[06:59] <madfox> IdleOne enforcing that giving proper versions is always going to be crucial to getting help?
[06:59] <mobasher> xbonesx=}} what you can do is stated in the bug report...you can make a bash shell script ..which is your workaround for now :)
[06:59] <madfox> dubey you meant 10.04
[06:59] <IdleOne> dubey: the version number is 10.04 dubey was being sarcastic instead of politely explaining it to you
[06:59] <dubey> Ubuntu TLS 10.04 Version
[06:59] <cfg> I have read that windows 7 has a hidden folder setup called "the vault" can a linux live cd see this vault?
[06:59] <ari_stress> hi all, how to list all installed packages from CLI?
[07:00] <madfox> cfg yes
[07:00] <rww> ari_stress: "aptitude search ~i" or "dpkg -l"
[07:00] <IdleOne> err i meant madfox was being sarcastic
[07:00] <ari_stress> thanks rww
[07:00] <halexander> Guys?
[07:00] <xbonesx> ubottu: is their one for ubuntu 9.04
[07:00] <halexander> Hello?
[07:00] <IdleOne> halexander: Hi
[07:01] <madfox> hi | halaxander
[07:01]  * Booby i love ubuntu ;)...
[07:01] <madfox> !hi | halaxander
[07:01] <halexander> IdleOne, do you know how to install a gamepad so it works with Mupen64, the emulator for nintendo 64 games?
[07:01] <IdleOne> halexander: I have no idea how
[07:02] <xbonesx> mobasher: im still very new to linux and ubuntu, im not sure what that guy is trying to explain in that bug link???
[07:02] <dubey> IdleOne: what would be the problem ?
[07:02] <halexander> I installed xserver-xorg-input-joystick but so far when I toggle the analog to digital switch on my gamepad, it doesn't switch anything, thus it's not recognized. I'd be greatfull if someone could help me out with this one.
[07:03] <jmmurray> Hi all. Anybody with knowledge on OpenERP?
[07:03] <wasnik> hi guys i dont have sound on recently installed netbook, soundcards are not gettin detected
[07:03] <madfox> !sound | wasnik
[07:04] <elementzero> hey, i have a quick question about grub, if anyone is interested
[07:04] <IdleOne> dubey: probably a bug in the Bonjour plugin I would guess
[07:04] <mobasher> xbonesx=}} okay PM me
[07:04] <madfox> elementzero go for it, though make sure its relevent to the topic
[07:04] <ZykoticK9_> halexander, i'd suggest you try using "blight's SDL input plugin" for Mupen64 (though I'm using Mupen64plus)
[07:05] <elementzero> Prior to updating, I had Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic and Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-21-generic (Recovery mode) as selectable in grub
[07:05] <halexander> I'm using that. But I can't use the controller.
[07:05] <elementzero> after updating, I have two MORE options in addition to Ubuntu....32-21-generic
[07:05] <halexander> The gamepad is simply -not- recognized by the OS.
[07:05] <elementzero> I now have Ubuntu....32-24-generic
[07:05] <elementzero> why did updating install two more boot options?
[07:05] <dubey> IdleOne: ok, But now i am not able to open pidgin
[07:06] <madfox> elementzero because your kernel got upgraded.
[07:06] <Tweaky> elementzero: it added your new kernel to the boot options
[07:06] <elementzero> ok
[07:06] <ZykoticK9_> halexander, if you run "ls /dev/input/" in a terminal is there a js0 when the joystick is plugged in?
[07:06] <madfox> elementzero to insure that the new kernel doesnt screw you over it just installs the new kernel, it doesnt erase the old one
[07:06] <elementzero> so i just need to modify grub.cfg and get rid of the relevent options, then?
[07:06] <Tweaky> elementzero: yep
[07:06] <elementzero> k, thanks
[07:06] <madfox> elementzero err...thatd be problematic
[07:06] <elementzero> uh?
[07:07] <halexander> ZykoticK9_, I have a js0.
[07:07] <Erik_> Hi anyone outthere smart in setting up proxies and resolving problems with them. I deinstalled polipo But don't seem to be able to login to website anymore (with any browser) due to cookie problems. I can't for example login to i-google while i was able too when running polipo. Any ideas/suggestions are welcome.
[07:07]  * elementzero is hoping to reduce his menu options to: "Xubuntu 10.04", "Xubuntu 10.04 (Recovery Mode)", and "Windows 7"
[07:07] <madfox> elementzero 1.) You mangle grub so that you cannot use the updated kernel 2.)You remove the relevant options and you have useless kernel images laying around
[07:08] <madfox> elementzero ones that will keep coming back everytime grub gets updates
[07:08] <Tweaky> madfox: yeah thats true you could remove the outdated kernels
[07:09] <elementzero> madfox: I plan to remove the ...32-21 kernal and leave the 32-24 kernal
[07:09] <madfox> Tweaky elementzero thatd be the proper way. but id becareful and make sure the new one runs smoothly for you consistently first.
[07:09] <elementzero> and then get rid of the memtest+, as i doubt i'll need it
[07:09] <madfox> elementzeror untill you need it...
[07:09] <madfox> elementzero  untill you wish you had it...
[07:09] <st> only gamers and overclockers need it
[07:09] <NoTownKasper> elementzero: I'd leave at least one other kernel option and the memtest, it might be a bit bulky, but when something strikes and you actually need them, trust me, you'll thank yourself.
[07:10] <elementzero> fair enough
[07:10] <elementzero> i had just something strike, after all ^_^
[07:10] <madfox> elementzero  NoTownKasper o.o like the time the new kernel trashed my video and I was typing blind
[07:11] <elementzero> first time installing linux, did mint xfce. i installed the nvidia drivers and all i got was a black screen, even in recovery mode
[07:11] <elementzero> took a long time for me to figure out i needed to reboot with my liveusb, mount my partition, and change xorg.conf from nvidia to vesa to fix it
[07:11] <wasnik> hi guys just installed netbook but no sound. ubuntu does not detect my soundcards. please help
[07:11] <elementzero> anyways, now i'm on xubuntu, we'll see if the nvidia drivers do it again
[07:11] <Gnea> wasnik: which netbook?
[07:12] <wasnik> gnea: ubuntu 10.04
[07:12] <NoTownKasper> madfox: Yeah, like that.
[07:13] <Gnea> wasnik: so you installed standard ubuntu 10.04 on a netbook? or did you install netbook remix on a netbook?
[07:14] <wasnik> Gnea: standard ubuntu netbook
[07:16] <etherealite_> hello, can anyone tell me how to reinstall grub so i can boot my system?
[07:16] <Gnea> wasnik: so, yeah, which netbook?
[07:17] <guigui> hi
[07:17] <elementzero> etherealite_, I'm trying to configure it, myself. check here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[07:17] <mobasher> !grub | etherealite_
[07:17] <wasnik> Gnea: standard netbook
[07:17] <Tweaky> etherealite_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[07:18] <RealOpty> anyone know how to program a button on my mouse to operate my music player rhythmbox ?
[07:18] <armyriad> etherealite_: If you can't boot your system, you're going to need a live CD or a Grub CD.
[07:18] <Gnea> wasnik: who made the netbook? what's the model #?
[07:18] <etherealite_> armyriad what about the install cd in rescue mode?
[07:18] <elementzero> i'm on an asus 1215n and i don't think my sound card is recognized, either
[07:19] <etherealite_> armyriad if not, what rescue disk should I use?
[07:19] <Gnea> elementzero: if you open a terminal and type: alsamixer  does it report an error?
[07:19] <elementzero> nope
[07:20] <elementzero> lemme go try to play something
[07:20] <juk> just removed pidgin, and it even didn't bother to remove ~/.purple with my plain password!
[07:20] <wasnik> Gnea: I downloaded the version from this site http://www.ubuntu.com/netbook/features
[07:20] <Gnea> juk: why would it?
[07:20] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: I forget the exact program name, but playdeb.net and probably getdeb.net have a program called omnijoy or something very similar which allows you to configure all sorts of mouse/joystick/controller functions for just that sort of issue. So there's an option. I use my logitect controller as a remote for VLC and Rhythmbox. :P
[07:21] <juk> Gnea:wtf, it stores my pass in plain file?
[07:21] <rww> juk: removing a package never, ever touches per-user configuration files in ~/
[07:21] <Gnea> wasnik: well, if alsamixer doesn't work, then I don't know what you can do
[07:21] <Tweaky> i use an origonal xbox controller in ubuntu lol
[07:21] <elementzero> alsamixer appears to work
[07:21] <Gnea> juk: mind the language, we know what it means.
[07:21] <Madpilot> rww, not true. There's a "remove with prejudice" option
[07:21] <elementzero> i see mixing bars and whatnot
[07:21] <Gnea> elementzero: then your sound works fine.
[07:22] <Gnea> you just need to make it work now
[07:22] <_dancek> juk, storing plain passes is a wtf (ymmv) but not removing user configs certainly isn't
[07:22] <rww> Madpilot: purging packages also doesn't remove per-user configuration files in ~/
[07:22] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, thanks. ill look that up. that reminds me.
[07:22] <Madpilot> rww, in Synaptic, it's "remove all" or similar
[07:22] <rww> juk: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords
[07:22] <Gnea> juk: of course, setting proper ~ permissions tends to help
[07:22] <juk> rww:thanks
[07:23] <NoTownKasper> juk: http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/PlainTextPasswords
[07:23] <NoTownKasper> ...Bah, beat me to it.
[07:23] <rww> Madpilot: "Complete removal"? That purges the package, which as I've said, doesn't touch ~/
[07:23] <elementzero> I don't have any sound controls if i click on my speaker button, though :-P
[07:23] <juk> they should warn or something
[07:23] <elementzero> gimme a sec, though, since i'm installing flash so i can test some music
[07:23] <Madpilot> rww, pretty sure it does; admittedly it's been ages since I've actually removed something...
[07:23] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, how do you get your remote to work with rhythmbox? i know about enabling the plugin lirc, but did you have to config anything?
[07:23] <frobisher> elementzero:did you unmute sound.
[07:23] <elementzero> it doesn't show it's muted
[07:24] <rww> Madpilot: You're wrong ;P
[07:24] <Gnea> elementzero: you could try 'sound preferences' when you click on the speaker
[07:24] <Madpilot> rww, won't be the first time today :)
[07:24] <elementzero> nvm, got em
[07:25] <elementzero> i don't see sound preferences, but i found my controls :)
[07:25] <fourstar_> is anyone here an amazon affiliate?
[07:25] <rww> !ot | fourstar_
[07:25] <sas> Hello! all
[07:25] <dancek> juk, why, every time a program saves a password its either in plaintext (you should know that) or in a keyring (which you know because you see some keyring app)
[07:25] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: It's been a few weeks I'd have to look back at the specifics and it's not on this machine, it's on my laptop, but yeah, I used the program to bluff the gamepad buttons into mimicing the same commands on my media keyboard.
[07:25] <elementzero> and firefox crashed while installing flash >_>
[07:25] <rww> Madpilot: (The difference between regular and complete removal is that the latter removes /system-wide/ configuration files)
[07:25] <dancek> juk, things like subversion save passwords in plaintext, too
[07:25] <GHH> using ppp0 interface but my client cant connect using  my IP(dynamic)over the internet. Any solution?
[07:25] <Madpilot> rww, ah, nvermind
[07:25] <sas> I have a serious boot problem! please help me
[07:25] <wasnik> Gnea: I installed gnome alsamixer and i dont see no soundcard or sliders
[07:25] <phanindra> anyremote says "disconnected from phone " what shall i do??
[07:26] <elementzero> sas, what's up
[07:26] <fourstar_> rww: this is the only channel with a huge community, and i'm sure someone in here is an affiliate. i just have a quick question, and there is no "affiliate channel" on ffreenode
[07:26] <Tweaky> sas: more specifically
[07:26] <fourstar_> plus i'm on ubuntu right now
[07:26] <fourstar_> so does that count?
[07:26] <frobisher> elementzero:in the top,right corner you will see something that resembles a speaker.Right click it and it should show volume.
[07:26] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: So if the command for my media keyboard was something like MKBplay for the play button, that's what I set the 'x' button on my controller to send when Rhythmbox is in the forefront. Make sense?
[07:26] <rww> fourstar_: It's not an Ubuntu support question, so it doesn't belong here.
[07:26] <juk> dancek:thanks, but here it comes to privacy
[07:26] <fourstar_> technically, since i'm on ubuntu, need support, it is an ubuntu support question
[07:26] <sas> it started with blank screen no text no splash but finally the desktop would come, today its just freezined no movement
[07:26] <rww> fourstar_: No, it's not.
[07:26] <fourstar_> modus ponens
[07:27] <elementzero> frobisher: yeah, but the only thing i can do is show and hide sound mixers. in anycase, my sound works :)
[07:27] <frobisher> Good
[07:27] <sas> elementzero: you got it, now I am comming to you through usb-live
[07:28] <fourstar_> are you richard stallman? or linus torvalds, rww?
[07:28] <fourstar_> you are most likely just an insignificant noob
[07:28] <fourstar_> so get lost
[07:28]  * NoTownKasper waves bye bye to fourstar while he-...oops...too late.
[07:28] <elementzero> sas: did you install nvidia drivers? lol
[07:28] <Tweaky> lol
[07:28] <sas> Tweaky: I hope you got it
[07:28]  * elementzero installed nvidia drivers and ubuntu booted to black. even i recovery mode. even with ctrl+alt+f1
[07:29] <sas> elementzero: yes
[07:29] <elementzero> sas: did the problem start after installing the drivers?
[07:29] <Tweaky> elementzero: oh god.. proprietary ones?
[07:29] <Balsaq> i had a corruption on my top panel...the place where th on/off switch was suddenly just show the letter "m"?
[07:29] <sas> yeah
[07:30] <abhijit> !panels | Balsaq
[07:30] <sas> elementzero:yes
[07:30] <elementzero> Tweaky: a box popped up and told me that i could have hardware acceleration, transparency, and everything else you'd want in a video card if i installed the restricted ones
[07:30] <Balsaq> !panels
[07:30] <abhijit> :/
[07:30] <elementzero> sas: the farthest i got on that problem before uninstalling linux mint xfce and installing xubuntu was
[07:30] <Balsaq> now my name is gone off the panles
[07:31] <NoTownKasper> elementzero: Sounds to me like your xconf broke when you installed the new drivers...
[07:31] <elementzero> Tweaky, what other options do i have?
[07:31] <GHH> using ppp0 interface but my client cant connect using  my IP(dynamic)over the internet. Any solution?
[07:31] <elementzero> sas: do an fdisk -l in the terminal to find your linux partition
[07:31] <sas> elementzero: it means nothing could be done
[07:31] <elementzero> sas: then do mount /dev/<your partition> <path to some random folder>
[07:31] <genewitch> i am trying to make an init.d script, and when start-stop-daemon tries to start the program it barfs "can't find config file" but when i type /path/to/program it works fine. everything is owned by root. should i change something else? note: the server says it can't find its config file, not start-stop-daemon.
[07:31] <Tweaky> elementzero: you shouldnt have to install proprietary video card drivers, it should work well with the open source
[07:32] <elementzero> Tweaky: does the update manager install the best ones for me?
[07:33] <Tweaky> elementzero: yes. i had the same kinda issue with ati propiedtary drivers
[07:33] <masen> genewitch: i'd bet that the PATH variable that includes your config file normally isn't present in the daemon environment
[07:33] <elementzero> sas: anyways, mount your linux partition to some folder, browse to that folder, and then browse to etc/X11/ and open up xorg.conf
[07:33] <NoTownKasper> Tweaky: There's OS drivers for Nvidea cards?
[07:33] <elementzero> sas: change whatever "nvidia" to "vesa", i think
[07:33] <sas> Even through live usb I can access my partition, tell me what next
[07:33] <genewitch> masen: i edited that line in the init.d script, though, i used /etc/init.d/skeleton
[07:33] <elementzero> sas: open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:33] <Gnea> wasnik: alsamixer isn't a gnome program.
[07:33] <Tweaky> NoTownKasper: yes
[07:33] <phanindraramesh_> how to find the port number??
[07:33] <genewitch> masen: how do i do the export path thing again
[07:33] <phanindraramesh_> how to find the port number??
[07:33] <abhijit> bye
[07:34] <masen> genewitch: i'm not sure in init.d scripts
[07:34] <elementzero> Tweaky: i assume i can't have any nvidia drivers, then, since this is an nvidia ion/optimus netbook :(
[07:34] <masen> i've just had similar issues with cron jobs
[07:34] <elementzero> everything must go through the intel gma :'(
[07:34] <genewitch> masen: just in general?
[07:34] <abhijit> !port | phanindraramesh_
[07:34] <NoTownKasper> Tweaky: Are those the ones that install with a default Ubuntu install? Because I've never been able to get 3D rendering to work without proprietary drivers for my Nvidea card...
[07:34] <masen> gemewitch: you could replace your normal binary with something like /usr/bin/env > /tmp/environment_vars
[07:34] <masen> to get a dump of the daemon environment
[07:35] <masen> genewitch: or possibly specify an absolute path to the config file in the line, if the binary supports that on the command line
[07:35] <genewitch> masen: how do i edit permanently the environment variables
[07:35] <wasnik> Gnea: I didnt have alsamixer to begin with, so i installed a gnome-alsamixer
[07:36] <elementzero> wtf
[07:36] <elementzero> "Unable to lock the download directory"
[07:36] <elementzero> why does it need to lock a temporary download directory when i apt-get?
[07:36] <phanindraramesh_> abhijit: terminal says -- !port:event not found
[07:36] <masen> genewitch: you could try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=872881
[07:36] <Tweaky> NoTownKasper: hmm yeah same issue i had with ati. i went into the compiz channel and someone walked me through getting it working perfect without proprietary
[07:36] <Gnea> wasnik: again, it's not a gui program, you're supposed to open a terminal and type: alsamixer
[07:36] <elementzero> E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:36] <phanindraramesh_> abhijit: terminal says -- !port:event not found
[07:36] <abhijit> phanindraramesh_, :S
[07:37] <phanindraramesh_> !firewall
[07:37] <abhijit> phanindraramesh_, read that document. it may have info on how to find port number. i dont know
[07:37] <genewitch> cue: there's a way to type export $PATH and have it append
[07:37] <genewitch> export $1 $PATH or something
[07:38] <mmcji> howdee
[07:38] <masen> export PATH="$PATH:/etc:/usr/local/etc"
[07:38] <NoTownKasper> Tweaky: Interesting, might have to check that out later. Never had problems with proprietary except when setting up a dual-card, dual monitor system. lol
[07:38] <masen> genewitch: you should really take a look at my link, it's your exact problem
[07:38] <wasnik> Gnea: When i do that i get, alsamixer doesnot exist. no such profram
[07:38] <Jordan_U> etherealite_: What exactly happens when you try to boot?
[07:38] <elementzero> gragh
[07:38] <genewitch> masen: i did, but the server is already running as the user it needs
[07:39] <elementzero> are the flash alternatives any good?
[07:39] <rww> no
[07:39] <Gnea> wasnik: what is the result of this command:  cat /proc/asound/cards\
[07:39] <Gnea> wasnik: without the \ at the end
[07:39] <mmcji> i am trying to install Lotus Notes on Ubuntu 10.04 32bit.  I am having a dependency problem, when installing the .deb with dpkg i get 'package libgnome-desktop-2 is not installed.'
[07:39] <sas> elementzero: yes I managed to find that file and clicked it open, what next
[07:39] <elementzero> sas: what's in it?
[07:39] <masen> genewitch: try something like this in your script itself: PATH="$PATH:/path/to/config_file"
[07:39] <sas> How can I send you that!
[07:39] <elementzero> sas: is there's a line for "nvidia", change it to "vesa", i think
[07:40] <Jordan_U> mmcji: Run "sudo apt-get -f install" or use gdebi instead of using dpkg directly.
[07:40] <genewitch> masen: i did that i will test it later. thanks a ton :-)
[07:40] <masen> good luck
[07:40] <sas> Get it confirm and guide me, or I send you the full output
[07:40] <elementzero> huh?
[07:40] <mmcji> i already know the application runs fine with a force install, but i would rather create a few symlinks to fool the install process.  My question is , what am i creating the symlink to.  I have tried 'ln -s /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so.17 /usr/lib/libgnome-desktop-2.so.11' but that did not work
[07:41] <mmcji> yes apt-get -f install works, but that messes up apt-get
[07:41] <lousygarua> hello [10.04], for some reason my indicator applet on the panel disappeared, so I had to add it again, but this time the space between its icons is big and it takes a lot of space on my small laptop's display :( http://i.imgur.com/8xI4Y.png
[07:41] <wasnik> Gnea: no such file or directory
[07:42] <sas> elementzero: I have that xorg.conf read only file open!
[07:42] <Gnea> wasnik: I'm going to ask you one last time: what is the make and model of your netbook?
[07:42] <Tweaky> lousygarua: mine is the same way now that you mention it
[07:42] <headkase314> !panels | lousygarua
[07:42] <elementzero> sas: does it say "nvidia" anywhere?
[07:42] <sas> yes a lot of places
[07:42] <elementzero> change them all to vesa
[07:43] <elementzero> that's as far as i got in my struggles
[07:43] <lousygarua> headkase314: will it unset all my current panel customizations?
[07:43] <sas> will that work?
[07:43] <headkase314> lousygarua, yes
[07:43] <NoTownKasper> lousygarua: Yeah, it will.
[07:43] <elementzero> changing them to vesa and saving should get you off of the nvidia drivers
[07:43] <lousygarua> headkase314: :(
[07:43] <lousygarua> headkase314: j/k :)
[07:43] <mmcji> or is there a way to do a force install where deps are not checked.  sort of like a --no-deps with rpm
[07:43] <elementzero> then you can try to uninstall them somehow
[07:43] <wasnik> Gnea: Its a compaq presario f755us. i am sorry earlier i hade got confused thatu were askin me the version of the ubumntu netbook sofrware i installed
[07:43] <sas> I will check it
[07:43] <elementzero> and then figure out what the best are
[07:43] <elementzero> i dunno how to find out what drivers i'm using. neuveau, maybe?
[07:43] <elementzero> mouveau
[07:43] <Tweaky> lousygarua: i just moved mine around and its all compacted now
[07:43] <elementzero> nouveau..
[07:44] <Jordan_U> mmcji: What do you mean by "messes up apt-get"?
[07:44] <Jordan_U> mmcji: -f with apt-get does not stand for "force" btw, it stands for "fix".
[07:45] <elementzero> "nouveau 467048 0 - Live 0xf8e8a000" I assume this is my video card driver
[07:45] <EdMoney> im having problems install ubuntu 10.04.01 on my Vaio 64 bit machine
[07:45] <Gnea> wasnik: well, you see, here's the thing... netbook remix is made for netbooks, not standard laptops
[07:45] <lousygarua> Tweaky: will try that, thanks
[07:45] <abhijit> !details | EdMoney
[07:45] <EdMoney> neither installing from disc, or trying ubuntu as a program within windows is working
[07:45] <wasnik> Gnea: so what should i do
[07:45] <mas> ev_calibrate donts works on lucid
[07:46] <elementzero> i tried ubuntu netbook, chrome os, and meego
[07:46] <Gnea> wasnik: install ubuntu
[07:46] <elementzero> meego was the best, but they all lacked desktops which made me unhappy
[07:46] <mmcji> cool, i did not know -f was fix.  after doing the -f install, if i then try to run apt-get update, i get a message that i need to run apt-get -f install with out a packege specified to correct a package problem.  If I do that, it wants to remove lotus notes.
[07:46] <wasnik> Gnea: is theer no way to fix the sound
[07:46] <brime> hello
[07:47] <Gnea> wasnik: do you think I'm leading you on a path to where sound wouldn't work?
[07:47] <mmcji> if I could exclude notes from being managed by dpkg that would be great.
[07:47] <mas> why the microphone donts works in the samsung q1 ultra and hp dv 2000 with ubuntu 10.04????
[07:47] <marekw2143> hi, from command line, how to check which version of soft will be installed with apt-get install?
[07:47] <brime> what happened to the login manager?
[07:47] <EdMoney> abhijit: at first, ubuntu would freeze up and nothing would happen, they I tried choosing the language on install and then installing with nomodeset, and then like 45 minutes the install would crap out
[07:48] <brime> I can't change anything in it anymore... :(
[07:48] <JoeMaverickSett> !details | brime
[07:48] <mmcji> I would not be using lotus notes, but it is a req at work, and we have a bunch users at work that use ubuntu as our workstations so I want that to continue.
[07:48] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, yeah what about rhythmbox though. I have a remote and such, i want to use lirc
[07:48] <wasnik> Gnea: Just that I have spent so much time installin netbook ubuntu. I was curious if i could just fix the sound on this version itself
[07:48] <abhijit> !hardware | EdMoney from this link and from release notes be sure that your hardware is supported is knows to be working in ubuntu
[07:49] <EdMoney> ubottu, thanks much
[07:49] <masen> marekw2143: apt-get -sV install <pkg_name>
[07:49] <Gnea> wasnik: you'd spend less time and avoid more headaches by installing the standard version of ubuntu
[07:49] <marekw2143> masen: thx
[07:49] <masen> marekw2143: -s = simulate, -V = show version numbers
[07:49] <Gnea> wasnik: plus you've got a 64bit system, so get the 64bit while you're at it
[07:49] <brime> ok i want to setup xdmcp on a ubuntu 10.04 server and i cant seem to find the login manager to enable this
[07:49] <brime> did it get removed?
[07:50] <Samekh> hello
[07:50] <Samekh> Does anyone here have experience with ntop?
[07:50] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: Honestly, I don't remember how I configured it...but it will require some configuring and playing around with the program I mentioned.
[07:50] <wasnik> Gnea: oh is my system 64 bit I think i felt it was just 32 bit
[07:50] <Samekh> I'd really, really appreciate some help
[07:50] <abhijit> !ask | Samekh
[07:50] <masen> marekw2143: for future reference, everything a command can do (usually) can be read on the man page. for instance: man apt-get
[07:50] <Gnea> wasnik: google it.
[07:51] <marekw2143> masen: yeah, I know that
[07:51] <Samekh> !ask | Samekh
[07:51] <Gnea> wasnik: the amd turion 64 is a, well, 64bit cpu
[07:51] <abhijit> !bot > Samekh
[07:51] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: And I think the controller/mouse needs to be hardwired into the system for omnijoy or whatever it's called to work...if you have a real remove, I can't help ya.
[07:51] <wasnik> Gnea: So why is the ubuntu website saying 32 bit is recommended for most users
[07:51] <NoTownKasper> *remote
[07:52] <Gnea> wasnik: well, it does require that you use your head for yourself, to some extent :)
[07:52] <Jordan_U> wasnik: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website-content/+bug/585940
[07:52] <NoTownKasper> wasnik: Because 64 bit isn't as compatible with most common programs, requires special configuration to run 32 bit apps and is un-necessary for most daily, desktop user's usual tasks. :P
[07:53] <MissingPerson> I'm having some problems with wicd.  It will not connect any devices or really even load at all.  On startup, it asks for my admin password to access my devices, which it never did, then it doesn't load.
[07:53] <zipp> hello
[07:53] <zipp> I got problem with java anyone can help
[07:53] <Jordan_U> !anyone | zipp
[07:54] <Samekh> I cannot get ntop to listen on my destination (mirrored port) properly - I use to command line switch -i eth1 and ntop loads with a list of 5 devices including the switch and bridges - how do I get it to listen on eth1 properly? Wireshark confirms that this port is operating as expected and wireshark is functioning properly
[07:54] <MissingPerson> Also,  it says when it finally tries to load (after trying to start it 15000 times), that it will not load due to errors logged in wicd.log
[07:54] <MissingPerson> when i access that file, it says that there are errors in wicd.conf among various other things
[07:54] <JoeMaverickSett> brime: i think you should take a look at this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes#GDM does not support XDMCP
[07:54] <MissingPerson> i'm currently on my livecd
[07:54] <Samekh> Selecting interface eth0 shows me -some- traffic
[07:54] <wasnik> NoTownKasper: But running a 32 bit ubuntu version on 64  bit is not goin to cause errors right
[07:54] <Samekh> i.e. local traffic
[07:55] <zipp> some chatting applications won't work with openjava and I decided to install the closed one, I install it make linking but it won't work
[07:55] <NoTownKasper> wasnik: Not at all. Your processer architecture isn't the determining factor. You'll be fine running 32bit on a 64bit processor system.
[07:55] <abhijit> Samekh, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ntop
[07:55] <JoeMaverickSett> brime: go to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynx/ReleaseNotes and scroll down to section: GDM does not support XDMCP
[07:55] <masen> Jordan_U: is it just me or do a lot "non-critical" bugs go unfixed or even ignored by the ubuntu devs
[07:56] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1066766
[07:57] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: That problem is out of my league.  It's a one line fix, super simple even posted on the page...nothing for months...still not fixed </rant>
[07:57] <brime> JoeMaverickSett: thank you...
[07:57] <Samekh> abhijit, ntop is installed and running - this page, unfortunately, does not tell you how to properly select and configure a different interface
[07:57] <brime> Its odd that the GDM has lost features...
[07:57] <Jordan_U> masen: I think ignored isn't the right word as there are simply to many bug reports and not enough developers/triager. But yes, it's unfortunately common for minor bugs to go unfixed. If you'd like to talk about it more join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[07:57] <abhijit> Samekh, hmm
[07:57] <MissingPerson> 'm having some problems with wicd.  It will not connect any devices or really even load at all.  On startup, it asks for my admin password to access my devices, which it never did, then it doesn't load.  Also,  it says when it finally tries to load (after trying to start it 15000 times), that it will not load due to errors logged in wicd.log -- when i access that file, it says that there are errors in wicd.conf among various
[07:58] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: Might want to try the fix on that same thread you posted to me though...might help. :P
[07:58] <MissingPerson> can anyone help me fix this from here?
[07:58] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, ????
[07:58] <Jordan_U> masen: And even non-minor ones :0
[07:58] <archstanton43> can anyone tell me how support is licensed on vmware?
[07:58] <abhijit> archstanton43, ask in #vmware
[07:58] <evilaim> Hey, I need help bad:)
[07:59] <archstanton43> if i want enterprise support do i purchase by cpu core or machine?
[07:59] <Jordan_U> archstanton43: Try ##vmware, or call their support services.
[07:59] <abhijit> !ask | evilaim
[07:59] <mmcji> yes what abhijit said
[07:59] <masen> MissingPerson: try wiping out your config file (after backing it up of course) and start over
[07:59] <evilaim> How do I lock a user in the /home/tekky folder?
[07:59] <archstanton43> abhijit why?
[07:59] <evilaim> User tekky should stay in /home/tekky.  Can't cd .. out
[07:59] <wasnik> NoTownKasper: and i should go for the desktop edition right. (Generally desktop is different from laptop in daily usage)
[07:59] <abhijit> archstanton43, there are people with knowledge about vmware. they can guide you better than here
[07:59] <MissingPerson> masen: would it be easier just to reinstall wicd with aptitude and start over?
[07:59] <archstanton43> abhijit im asking about ubuntu support on vmware
[07:59] <Samekh> :(
[08:00] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: You said you wanted to use your remote with Rhythmbox right? Well, that same thread had a fix for making a remote work with Rhythmbox using lirc.
[08:00] <JoeMaverickSett> MissingPerson: you might want to take a look at this: http://www.go2linux.org/ERROR-dbus-proxies-Introspect-error-exception-org-freedesktop-wicd
[08:00] <venky10> evilaim: you need to sandbox the user
[08:00] <wieshka> grrrr .... ok folks - lets figure out last time about Ubuntu Desktop + RAID 1 + LVM
[08:00] <abhijit> archstanton43, ammm then repharse your question properly
[08:00] <evilaim> I've change the chroot.conf
[08:00] <abhijit> Samekh, i dont know further
[08:00] <wieshka> so do i have to make /boot partition out of raid ?
[08:00] <evilaim> I added: tekky /home/tekky
[08:00] <evilaim> and he can still cd ..
[08:00] <NoTownKasper> wasnik: I'd go for desktop. Unless of course you're using a laptop machine. :P
[08:00] <evilaim> and get to the root and such
[08:00] <abhijit> archstanton43, you want support for ubuntu or support for vmware?
[08:00] <masen> MissingPerson: yes, but make sure you do a apt-get --purge remove wicd
[08:00] <evilaim> but we've disabled the ls from /home so he can't see other users
[08:00] <archstanton43> abhijit im being told that its cheaper to go with suse than ubuntu
[08:00] <masen> MissingPerson: that way your old config gets deleted too
[08:01] <masen> MissingPerson: then just install normally
[08:01] <archstanton43> abhijit i i am going to host the distros on vmware and have enterprise support?
[08:01] <abhijit> archstanton43, if you are looking for professional support for ubuntu then contact canonical
[08:01] <wasnik> NoTownKasper: I am using a laptop.
[08:01] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, lol i know that. i was just pointing it out, i found the answer to my question.
[08:01] <abhijit> archstanton43, you you will get the details from them. www.canonical.com
[08:01] <wasnik> NoTownKasper: is teher a special version for laptops
[08:01] <MissingPerson> masen: ok...how do i do this from the livecd on my actual install?
[08:01] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: OH! Duh, I'm sleepy...sorry about that.
[08:02] <archstanton43> abhijit ive looked does no one know the licensing model for enterprise support on here?
[08:02] <wieshka> So i am going to install Ubuntu Desktop 10.04 from alternative install CD and i have some misundertandings now: 1) do i have to make /boot partition out of RAID 1 array, or i have to make it as splitted RAID 1 array ?
[08:02] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/276401
[08:02] <venky10> evilaim: http://www.unixwiz.net/techtips/chroot-practices.html
[08:02] <NoTownKasper> wasnik: I'd still go with desktop the installer should auto-detect all the specifics you'd need for a laptop install. Unless you're using a netbook, in which case, I don't know.
[08:02] <wieshka> 2) do i have to give a boot flag to any of partitions ?
[08:02] <skywalkgr> hello to every1
[08:02] <abhijit> archstanton43, all here are volenteers. not officla canonical person. you need to talk to officials of canonical regarding this. so contact them
[08:02] <masen> MissingPerson: i'm not sure from a live cd, is there a reason you can't do it from your install?
[08:03] <wasnik> NoTownKasper:Thanks for the help
[08:03] <MissingPerson> masen: well, there is the fact that i can't connect to the internet because wicd farted out :-P
[08:03] <lorenzosu> Hi all. I have automatically mounted two samba shares, but when I open files from there they are read-only.
[08:03] <skywalkgr> who has a few minutes to help me please?
[08:03] <evilaim> haha
[08:03] <evilaim> that just looks confusing
[08:03] <abhijit> !ask > skywalkgr
[08:03] <NoTownKasper> wasnik: Actually, if you're using a netbook, there's a specific install for that, but I'd still go with a desktop package unless it's specifically a netbook.
[08:03] <caken> i was install lucid lynx in my laptop. but my laptop's wireless device wont active. it wont work just like before.
[08:04] <WXZ> I can't open the repository
[08:04] <WXZ> it says my sources.list file is malformed
[08:04] <WXZ> how can I fix that?
[08:04] <masen> MissingPerson: do you have your ubuntu cd?
[08:04] <KiNk> Go and set up you wireless drivers
[08:04] <evilaim> venky10, this is how to avoid it...
[08:04] <masen> dumb question
[08:04] <archstanton43> abhijit shame
[08:04] <masen> sorry
[08:04] <abhijit> archstanton43, excuse me?
[08:04] <evilaim> No way of this being easier?
[08:04] <MissingPerson> masen, well, i use linux mint, but i'm on my mint install cd right now
[08:05] <skywalkgr> i have a copy of 10.04 (x64) but i cannot install into my desktop, today i bought a new hard disk (totally empty) and still cant find a solution
[08:05] <Jordan_U> wieshka: No, unless you have a really buggy BIOS the boot flag is just ignored when using grub.
[08:05] <masen> MissingPerson: do the remove without internet. make sure in your software sources you have the cd checked. then afterward (temporarily) apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome
[08:05] <wieshka> Jordan_U: the problem is that again my install does not works properly
[08:06] <Jordan_U> wieshka: In what way?
[08:06] <masen> MissingPerson: that should install the basic netman from the cd, then you'll be able to get access to reinstall wicd
[08:06] <NoTownKasper> My problem: Ubuntu 10.04, samba is installed, I can share folders on my end and the other machines on the network can see me, and see the shared folders, but cannot access them.
[08:06] <venky10> evilaim: Its how to do  chroot right so that its hard to get out
[08:06] <masen> masen: alternatively, you could download wicd .deb packages, do the remove, then reinstall the packages offline
[08:06] <venky10> evilaim: I assumed you have the chroot setup
[08:06] <evilaim> kk
[08:06] <wieshka> Jordan_U: no matter - i now want to reinstall last time - so can you explain me in short how you would make RAID 1 + LVM
[08:06] <evilaim> setup?
[08:07] <wieshka> for ubuntu 10.04 desktop
[08:07] <MissingPerson> that's probably the easiest for me most likely is the .deb option
[08:07] <RealOpty> NoTownKasper, anyways that first link solved my issues. remotes working now.
[08:07] <perezfam> I am trying to get a canon 210 lide usb scanner recognised by sane on ubuntu 10.04 but no luck yet.  Any guide or "how to" install this canon scanner?
[08:07] <masen> MissingPerson: it was an afterthought...but definitely the simplest option
[08:07] <wasnik> NoTownKasper: But would uploadin a netbook bersion of ubuntu on a laptop actually mess up the sound
[08:08] <Jordan_U> !pm | wieshka
[08:08] <MissingPerson> thanks masen
[08:08] <NoTownKasper> wasnik: It might. That's why I suggested a desktop install for a regular laptop.
[08:08] <masen> np, good luck w/ that
[08:08] <skywalkgr> any1?
[08:08] <wieshka> Jordan_U: okey :)
[08:08] <WXZ> E: Malformed line 54 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[08:08] <armyriad> What is the name of the GUI tool that comes up when one goes to System -> Administration -> Users and Groups?
[08:08] <NoTownKasper> RealOpty: Glad to hear it. :)
[08:08] <WXZ> what can I do about that?
[08:08] <abhijit> skywalkgr, is it giving any error?
[08:08] <kalle_> notown sound like u havent got the permissions right, make sure the user logging in to samba is allowed to access the folders
[08:09] <abhijit> armyriad, users-admin
[08:09] <skywalkgr> i am starting the installer (icon on the desktop) and at STEP 4 where you make the partitions there IS NO partitions there
[08:09] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1053796.html
[08:09] <NoTownKasper> kalle_: Perms on the folders are open to everyone.
[08:09] <skywalkgr> if i press forward it says "no root partition defined" or something like that
[08:09] <kalle_> have u added the external user to a list also ?
[08:10] <caken> Jordan_U, i was install lucid lynx in my laptop. but wireless device in it wont work just like before.
[08:10] <goddard> i want notepad++ for ubuntu
[08:10] <armyriad> abhijit: Thanks.
[08:10] <caken> Jordan_U, any idea?
[08:10] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: you can comment out that line with gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <KiNk> Have you install the wireless drivers????
[08:10] <NoTownKasper> kalle_: What list? The folders are open to everyone.
[08:10] <abhijit> skywalkgr, i think you are trying since yesterday. try getting help from you local linux users group mailing list or forums
[08:10] <kalle_> I think "everyone" is only those registered on your system not external users
[08:10] <abhijit> armyriad, welcome.
[08:10] <WXZ> ummm, which line?
[08:11] <caken> Jordan_U, i trying to fix it but i have stuck enough. need your help
[08:11] <NoTownKasper> kalle_: No no, I mean the folders are set for guess access, meaning people who aren't members of a group on my machine.
[08:11] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: line 54 as stated in your error.
[08:11] <[thor]> haha no kidding
[08:11] <skywalkgr> sorry it says "no root filesystem is defined , please correct this from partitioning menu."
 You should have two partitions on each disk, both of them raid members. The first partitions should be used to create /dev/md0, which should then be formatted ext3/4 (make sure there is no partition table, you do *not* want a /dev/md0p1). Then the second partitions should be used to create /dev/md1, then you should use LVM on top of /dev/md1 and make your root filesystem and swap out of the
[08:12] <abhijit> armyriad, to check any such gui tool first open system monitor from system->administration then go to processes tab and then run that program you want to find name of
[08:12] <WXZ> that's not going to make the rest of it messed up?
[08:12] <mas> where are the archlinux chat?
[08:12] <kalle_> hm I think there is some settings u need to tweak in the samba config file, i dont remember which ones tho, long time since i setup samba
[08:12] <abhijit> skywalkgr,  this error is getting as you jump inside partitioning dialoge or after setting up all partitions?
[08:12] <wieshka> Jordan_U: - ok i will give  try to mirrored /boot partition as md0
[08:12] <rww> mas: #archlinux
[08:12] <elementzero> so
[08:13] <elementzero> xchat doesn't like to save my username settings?
[08:13] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: i think no. you just have to put # infront of that particular line. i did that before, it didn't mess up anything.
[08:13] <WXZ> ok
[08:13] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: did you read:http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1053796.html
[08:13] <WXZ> didn't get a chance yet
[08:13] <skywalkgr> do i have to setup the partitions before running the installer? from gparted for example? i thought the installer would do that for me automatically
[08:13] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: you better do.
[08:13] <WXZ> alright
[08:14] <WXZ> since you said that in such a threatening tone, I might as well
[08:14] <WXZ> might as well = kind of have to
[08:14] <abhijit> skywalkgr, you can set them run time. i.e. after executing the installer
[08:14] <EdMoney> if i install ubuntu from disc on my windows machine, will i have the option of how big to make the ubuntu partition or does the install wipe windows off my machine?
[08:14] <wieshka> Jordan_U: do i have to give boot flag option for partitions sda1 & sdb1 - what stands for /boot ?
[08:14] <JoeMaverickSett> goddard: you could try gedit as an alternative for notepad++
[08:14] <TraumaPony> My kernel is completely broken (kernel panic on boot), due to a bad compile. What do I have to do to boot in a live cd and re-download the exact kernel I was using previously?
[08:14] <wieshka> or they should be autodetected ?
[08:14] <kalle_> also did you chmod the rights for the folders ? not just setup in samba ? if only root can access then no "guest" user can access
[08:14] <abhijit> skywalkgr, just try this - first have a free space from gparted and then try to run install process and then select that free space for your partitions
[08:14] <kibibyte> Edgan, your winows is safe
[08:15] <kibibyte> sorry
[08:15] <JoeMaverickSett> WXZ: i wasn't threating you, it was just a mere suggestion. :)
[08:15] <skywalkgr> will do that thank you :)
[08:15] <Jordan_U> EdMoney: You will have an option to install side by side, choosing how much space you want to allocate to each OS.
[08:15] <kibibyte> EdMoney,
[08:15] <lousygarua> Anyone has an idea why my links (such as urls in pidgin/evolution) open with the command /usr/lib/firefox-3.5/firefox (which is symlink to /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.10/firefox) although my version (as mentioned) is 3.6.10 and not 3.5? this is annoying to set manually everytime firefox updates as the update breaks the symlink (3.6.10 changes to 3.6.11 for example)
[08:15] <kalle_> you can do a dir-all to see the permissions on the folders
[08:16] <Jordan_U> wieshka: Unless you have a really buggy BIOS, no. But at the same time it doesn't hurt anything either.
[08:16] <EdMoney> is there any real downside to running Karmic Koala instead of Lucid Lynx? Lucid Lynx is not installing properly for some reason. I'm installing Ubuntu to do development with python, postgresql, etc...
[08:16] <htorque> hello everyone! if a superseded package is marked as "deleted from disk" in LP, i can no longer get it via apt-get, right?
[08:17] <abhijit> EdMoney, choose the os or version whichever works for you
[08:17] <wieshka> Jordan_U: huh - now my partitions with type raid shows up in raid configurtion in wrong ways - it shows only the size
[08:17] <wieshka> no path
[08:17] <wieshka> so raid cannot be created succesfully
[08:17] <tensorpudding> EdMoney: what's the install problem?
[08:17] <wieshka> i already tried to reload tables
[08:17] <abhijit> htorque, try in #launchpad
[08:17] <NoTownKasper> kalle_: According to the properties everyone can access and modify the folder.
[08:18] <smartviking> How can i create raid on one hardisk with two partitions?
[08:18] <abhijit> !raid | smartviking
[08:18] <smartviking> ubottu: ty
[08:18] <smartviking> ubottu: -.-
[08:18] <abhijit> :/
[08:18] <Jordan_U> smartviking: That's generally not very usefull, and will likely be very slow.
[08:19] <smartviking> oh lol, abhijit Youre the one, thanks xD
[08:19] <tensorpudding> RAID on one hard disk? How is that at all useful?
[08:19] <abhijit> smartviking, :)
[08:19] <NoTownKasper> kalle_: Interesting though, I have two config programs for samba now. shares-admin and system-config-samba and the outputs from them don't match...
[08:19] <smartviking> Jordan_U: Yeah, i'm just curious about how to do that :)
[08:19] <EdMoney> tensorpudding: i cant remember the exact install error i was getting yesterday, but something in a forum said try to install in nomodeset, that didnt work either, and then i tried using Wubi, it would install but then nothing would happen
[08:19] <TraumaPony> My kernel is completely broken (kernel panic on boot), due to a bad compile. What do I have to do to boot in a live cd and re-download the exact kernel I was using previously?
[08:20] <Jordan_U> TraumaPony: Hold shift during boot and just select your old kernel (unless you removed it).
[08:20] <tensorpudding> EdMoney: You are already using Karmic?
[08:21] <TraumaPony> Jordan_U: It too is broken from something unrelated
[08:21] <kalle_> notownkasper: hm sound suspicious, are they both active or just one of them ? perhaps you can check which one responds to the active settings
[08:21] <EdMoney> tensorpudding: i was trying lynx first, hoping to get an easy install with Karmic
[08:21] <Jordan_U> TraumaPony: Are you familiar with chroot?
[08:21] <tensorpudding> EdMoney: It's not likely that Karmic will install and Lucid will not, except in the case of a hardware-specific regression
[08:22] <JoeMaverickSett> TraumaPony: take a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157250
[08:22] <TraumaPony> Jordan_U: Yeah, I'm just not sure what exactly I need to mount etc
[08:22] <NoTownKasper> kalle_: It appears that only one is actually accessinig samba shares, shares-admin is listing my NFS shares...and since I don't have any configured...it's empty. lol
[08:22] <Maahes> anyone have any information about securing a liveusb install? That is, replacing gdm's insistence on the "nopassword" user group, and replacing the ubuntu user?
[08:22] <EdMoney> tensorpudding: what do you suggest I do? retry installing from lucid and documenting all of the errors?
[08:23] <lousygarua> ok fixed, my preferred application for web was a custom command instead of being firefox
[08:23] <htorque> abhijit, thanks, found it out myself: if LP says "Removed from disk" then you cannot get it anymore via apt
[08:23] <abhijit> !yay | htorque
[08:24] <Jordan_U> TraumaPony: Mount your root filesystem to /mnt/ (the mountpoint doesn't really matter) and if you have a separate /boot then mount it to /mnt/boot/ then run "sudo mount -o bind /dev/ /mnt/dev/ && sudo mount -o bind /proc/ /mnt/proc/ && sudo mount -o bind /sys/ /mnt/sys/ && sudo chroot /mnt/"
[08:24] <abhijit> :)
[08:24] <wieshka> Jordan_U: is it possible that i had that partition p1 becouse it shows up unusable sapce on raid array ?
[08:24] <Jordan_U> wieshka: I don't understand the question.
[08:24] <wieshka> Jordan_U: i also :D whatever - going further
[08:26] <TraumaPony> Jordan_U: Thanks, I'll try it
[08:26] <Jordan_U> TraumaPony: You're welcome.
[08:26] <TraumaPony> JoeMaverickSett: Thanks too
[08:27] <JoeMaverickSett> TraumaPony: you are welcome! :)
[08:27] <cteja> Hello canu add me na
[08:27] <rww> what
[08:29] <wieshka> Jordan_U: so now i have RAID1 array md0 - size 512 Mb, file system ext3, mountpoint /boot, and also i have RAID 1 array md1, in size of 499 Gb ... but it also shos 983 kb as unusable space - maybe this was that extra partition what i had before ?
[08:29] <wieshka> in raid1 array i made LVM with wo logical volumes
[08:29] <wieshka> two
[08:31] <Jordan_U> wieshka: That's probably just unused space on between the partitions on the disk itself for alignment reasons of some sort. I wouldn't worry about it (and no that wouldn't cause the raid device to show up as partitioned, that requires explicitly creating a partition table).
[08:32] <wieshka> Jordan_U: ok - now installing already a base system
[08:32] <wieshka> lets see how it will work
[08:32] <wieshka> Jordan_U: jo prefer GRUB2 or LILO ?
[08:32] <Jordan_U> wieshka: GRUB2
[08:34] <ptman> I have a laptop with a bad cdrom drive. The ubuntu install cd boots, but mid-installation some checksums fail. Is it possible to put the iso image on the hard drive and tell the installer to use that? The laptop doesn't seem to be able to boot from USB
[08:35] <kapace_> hello, my friend was just installing ubuntu desktop and all of a sudden in the middle of the installation, his computer went to sleep!
[08:36] <Maahes> anyone have any information about securing a liveusb install? That is, replacing gdm's insistence on the "nopassword" user group, and replacing the ubuntu user?
[08:37] <fghf> I have a touch screen laptop and my mouse keeps going to the top of the screen and is like clicking and holding, how do I make this stop????, by the way the touch screen is working but only with the pen.
[08:38] <Jordan_U> ptman: Yes, pass the parameter "iso/scan-filename=/path/to/iso/file" to the kernel parameters.
[08:38] <kapace_> is the install suppose to let sleep mode happen?
[08:38] <abhijit> kapace_, no
[08:39] <ptman> Jordan_U, and what should the parameter be, since no filesystems are mounted while in the bootloader?
[08:39] <kapace_> what could have he done to let sleep mode take over?
[08:39] <Jordan_U> ptman: The initramfs will mount all partitions on all devices and check each for a file matching the path you give.
[08:40] <juk> does empathy store passwords in plains as pidgin does?
[08:40] <abhijit> bye all! have a good day!