[08:58] <esing> So I basically need 15GB for Ubuntu and 1GB for Swap right?
[08:59] <auronandace> esing: how much ram do you have?
[08:59] <esing> 8GB
[08:59] <auronandace> esing: if you want suspend/hibernate to work then you need at least as much swap as ram
[09:00] <k1l> esing: if you want to use suspend2disc (aka hibernation) you need swap = ram. but if not you can go even without swap
[09:00] <esing> Oh good to know, thanks
[09:00] <esing> Usually I don't use hibernation because I do not see a big difference between Standby and Hibernation
[09:00] <esing> I think it is 0,5 Watt difference?
[09:01] <esing> Should I chose ext3 or ext4?
[09:01] <LorSamPau_w_> ext4
[09:01] <auronandace> esing: either is fine
[09:01] <k1l> ext4
[09:01] <esing> Alright I try it again :)
[09:01] <esing> 4th time :D .. better than doing it wrong :)
[09:02] <auronandace> esing: just remember that swap has its own filesystem
[09:02] <mevvis> ryc
[09:02] <esing> auronandace I will go without Swap, since Iam already limited to only 20GB of space
[09:03] <LorSamPau_w_> do it with... just 1 gb
[09:03] <Onyx47> hello, is anyone aware of any bugs in Ubuntu's version of wget? I keep getting errors when trying to download a file using https, it works fine on my webhost though
[09:03] <esing> Oh, so Swap is necessary besides hibernation usage?
[09:03] <k1l> esing: no
[09:04] <esing> Why would I need 1GB of Swap for?
[09:04] <ZDroid> esing: You need GB that the have on RAM
[09:05] <LorSamPau_w_> Swap should equal 2x physical RAM for up to 2 GB of physical RAM, and then an additional 1x physical RAM for any amount above 2 GB, but never less than 32 MB.
[09:05] <LorSamPau_w_> !swap
[09:05] <auronandace> esing: swap is optional
[09:05] <k1l> LorSamPau_w_: that is outdated
[09:05] <ZDroid> if you have 4 GB of RAM you need 4 GB for swap for best experience
[09:05] <k1l> LorSamPau_w_: very outdated
[09:05] <esing> Iam confused
[09:06] <auronandace> esing: swap is only really required if you are going to hibernate
[09:06] <auronandace> esing: since you aren't then you can leave swap out
[09:06] <k1l> esing: if you needed more than your real ram things get stored in the swap instead of the ram.  but think of how much you are using 8gb ram and that storing in the disc instead of ram is much slower and will slow down the system
[09:07] <Onyx47> depends on what you're using your computer for tbh, I have 4GB of RAM and 256MB of swap, swap rarely even gets used, only time I ever really see it used is when I run something very memory intensive, and even then I never saw it go over 20ish MB
[09:08] <k1l> esing: so without swap a programm gets killed to free some ram if the ram is full. but again: think of how often you get 8gb of rum in use
[09:08] <ZDroid> swap is great as a additional RAM
[09:08] <ZDroid> not realy but you can use it
[09:09] <k1l> the old swap rules are from the days where ram was in MB sizes, not in GB like today. people often forget that
[09:09] <ZDroid> yes k1l
[09:09] <k1l> ZDroid: but very very slow ram. you dont want to use it. its better to buy a bigger ram stick
[09:09] <esing> Alright, thanks for making that clear.
[09:10]  * esing reboots.
[09:10] <ZDroid> I thought as a supplement if you run out of RAM
[09:10] <crizis> i keep swappiness at 0, torturing slow hard drive is useless nowadays when ram is pretty much free :P
[09:11] <ZDroid> and money :D
[09:12] <crizis> i remember paying under 100e for 8gb ram, and this was almost 2 years ago.. so it is cheap
[09:12] <ZDroid> I am paying over 200€ for the 4 GB
[09:12] <ZDroid> but newer
[09:12] <crizis> O_o
[09:12] <auronandace> !ot
[09:12] <crizis> yeah big bonus with AMD is that you can buy dirt-cheap ram and lots of it. however yes.. this is offtopic
[09:13] <ZDroid> yes
[09:13] <ZDroid> that is offtopic
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid: still not sorted your cape dude?
[09:13] <gordonjcp> k1l: actually it's not even a problem if 8GB RAM *is* in use; it's not all used "usefully"
[09:14] <gordonjcp> k1l: so the memory manager will look at what's actually in 8G of RAM, go "right I need another 512MB, oh those buffers can go"
[09:14] <ZDroid> ActionParsnip:???
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> !atemyram
[09:14] <k1l> gordonjcp: yes, i was assuming that buffers and cache were already kicked out.
[09:15] <gordonjcp> k1l: ah, okay ;-)
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid: you said you are a member but you are still identifiable if I run a /whois on you
[09:15] <k1l> so i was thinking of a "real " 8gb ram usage
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid: do a /whois on me, then pick a random name and /whois them, notice a difference?
[09:17] <ZDroid> ActionParsnip: ???
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> k1l: echo `free -m | head -n 3 | tail -n 1 | awk {'print $4'}`Mb RAM free     Will show you
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid: notice how when you /whois me, I am cloaked  and as John Cena says "You can't see me"...yes?
[09:19] <intel1> actionparsnip : hey
[09:19] <ActionParsnip> intel1: howdy
[09:19] <intel1> Actionparsnip : am f9 , u ?
[09:20] <k1l> ActionParsnip: he is not a member, accoirding to launchpad.
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> intel1: not bad, getting my body clock round for night
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> k1l: ah, though s/he said she/he was earlier...
[09:20] <intel1> actionparsnip : :D
[09:21] <intel1> Actionparsnip : which interface u using rightnow , KDE , GNOME , Xfce ?
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> intel1: Gnome + Compiz + Unity3D right now
[09:21] <intel1> so what's ur opinion of Xfce
[09:21] <intel1> cuz i istalled it on ubuntu
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> intel1: its great
[09:21] <intel1> its looks good
[09:21] <intgr> Hi! What's the "right way" to create directories on the /run file system for daemons? Should the Upstart script create it or is there a better way?
[09:22] <mrmagdi_star2010> hi i have problem
[09:22] <intel1> Actionparsnip : but i feel that gnome is better
[09:22] <mrmagdi_star2010> a problem
[09:22] <mrmagdi_star2010> i con't install oracle 11g on ubuntu 12.4
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> intel1: both are coded with GTK. If you like the 2 panel old school desktop then XFCE is a good choice
[09:22] <intel1> ya
[09:22] <intel1> am not old
[09:23] <intel1> that's why i like GNOME
[09:23] <intel1> XD
[09:23] <mrmagdi_star2010> any body here can help my
[09:23] <mrmagdi_star2010> me
[09:23] <intel1> its just faster
[09:23] <intel1> the responding is so high
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> mrmagdi_star2010: https://blogs.oracle.com/toxophily/entry/installing_oracle_11g_db_on    does that not work?
[09:23] <bekks> mrmagdi_star2010: Thats because Oracle RDBMS arent officially supported on Ubuntu (by Oracle) - thus you cant install it.
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> intel1: its made to do that :)
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> intel1: if you want super fast then try Lubuntu, or even install minimal and just install fluxbox (No DE is required)
[09:24] <ZDroid> k1l: I am member of Launchpad
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> ZDroid: that's not ubuntu membership though
[09:24] <k1l> ZDroid: that is a different thing to an ubuntu membership
[09:24]  * ZDroid I am ubuntu member!
[09:25] <bazhang> !ot
[09:25]  * ZDroid I am memeber on http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net/
[09:26] <bazhang> ZDroid, stop that
[09:26]  * ZDroid ok
[09:26] <mrmagdi_star2010> could i know how can i install vmware on ubuntu
[09:26] <k1l> !membership > zdroid
[09:27] <mrmagdi_star2010> help me to install vmware on ubuntu 12.4
[09:28] <ZDroid> bazhang: Why you kick/ban me?
[09:28] <bazhang> ZDroid, stay on topic. lets move on
[09:28]  * ZDroid ok
[09:33] <Patchouli> Hello
[09:33] <Patchouli> join #ubuntu
[09:34] <ikonia> Patchouli: you're already in #ubuntu
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> !vmware > mrmagdi_star2010
[09:34] <Patchouli> yeah i see, sorry haven't used IRC in ages
[09:34] <ikonia> Patchouli: don't worry
[09:34] <Patchouli> Is there a support channel? I'm having a problem
[09:34] <gordonjcp> Patchouli: this is the support channel
[09:35] <bustacap> What command do I do to search through a folder of files for a specific text line?
[09:35] <DoctorD90> Hi! I'd if it is there a way to install proftpd in standalone mode without interactive mode, thx!
[09:35] <DoctorD90> I'd know*
[09:35] <ikonia> bustacap: grep
[09:36] <bustacap> ikonia, I know that but I don't know what grep cmd.
[09:36] <MonkeyDust> bustacap  combine find with grep
[09:36] <ikonia> bustacap: grep $string $location
[09:36] <bustacap> Will that search all sub directories too though?
[09:36] <ikonia> bustacap: grep -r
[09:36] <Patchouli> Ok, I'm having some problems with my microphone.  It's not recognized in Settings>Hardware>Sound>Input.  I've searched the web for solutions and tried one that involved adding a line to the alsa conf file.
[09:37] <Patchouli> Hardware is Lenovo Ideapad Y560 which uses Realtek Audio Drivers on the Windows boot
[09:38] <DoctorD90> It is there a command to install proftpd in standalone mode without choose it in interactive window?
[09:39] <esing> hi
[09:40] <auronandace> esing: how goes the install?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> bustacap: or:  man grep
[09:40] <esing> auronandace Ubuntu was installed pretty fast. Iam writing on xchat right now]
[09:40] <bustacap> ActionParsnip, ty :)
[09:40] <auronandace> !yay | esing
[09:40] <esing> Thanks :)
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: http://serverfault.com/questions/138067/automate-proftpd-basic-install-on-ubuntu-using-apt-get
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> DoctorD90  there's gadmin-proftpd
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: its the top result on:   https://duckduckgo.com/?q=proftpd+unattended+install
[09:43] <gordonjcp> DoctorD90: once you've finished installing proftpd, break out the install media and wipe and reinstall your machine
[09:44] <gordonjcp> DoctorD90: if you see something connected to the Internet running an FTP server, it's been 0wned
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: or simply ditch crappy FTP and use sFTP which you get when you install openssh-server
[09:44] <MonkeyDust> i use gftp
[09:44] <DoctorD90> 1.thx actionparsnip but im looking for a thing that i have to type nothing
[09:44] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: it supports sftp
[09:45] <gordonjcp> DoctorD90: then use sftp
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: yes, sftp is enabled and configured as soon as you install openssh-server
[09:45] <DoctorD90> 2.gordonjcp i do not understand ;P sorry...can you explain again? My english...is not good ^^
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: it uses the access the local users have on the OS as if they were accessing the files locally.
[09:46] <DoctorD90> ....are you meaning that sftp is alredy installed with openssh?
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> DoctorD90  yes
[09:46] <DoctorD90> ...mmmm
[09:46] <DoctorD90> I try *.*
[09:47] <gordonjcp> DoctorD90: it's inherent in openssh
[09:47] <gordonjcp> DoctorD90: same as scp
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> and IIRC, rsync goes over port 22, too
[09:47] <__gilles> except that to enable sftp server you have to uncomment a line in sshd_config
[09:48] <DoctorD90> I make a script in bash un 2 days, for install settings in my new vps :) so im looking for do not type nothing
[09:48] <__gilles> i don't think it is enabled by default
[09:48] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: rsync does if you pass it through ssh
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: yes, if you have the openssh-server package installed then you have an SFTP server now
[09:48] <__gilles> sorry it is on ubuntu it seems
[09:48] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: with something like "rsync -ave ssh"
[09:49] <bustacap> How do I grep for a specific file type?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> __gilles: in ubuntu it is default enabled, as is X forwarding
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> gordonjcp  i don't use 'ssh' in the command, when I rsync to my remote p[D[D[D[D[D[Dc
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> pc even
[09:50] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: hm, okay
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> bustacap: you can use find first to find the files, or you can grep the output for the file extension (assuming they have an extension)
[09:50] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: maybe what I said is obsolete now
[09:50] <bustacap> ActionParsnip, ty again :P
[09:50] <DoctorD90> Mmm...in sshd conf i remember a line about sftp, but it is commented
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: nautilus can connect to SSHFS, In Windows you will need something like Filezilla
[09:51] <esing> It seems Ubuntu did not care about setting up Dualboot, so when booting from Ubuntu I do not see any option to choose WIndows 7 or Ubuntu. Can I configure this manually? This is my grub2 config http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202271/
[09:51] <DoctorD90> Actionparsnip, i use android xP
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: andftp can connect to SFTP
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> esing: run:   sudo update-grub    do you see windows mentioned?
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> esing  I read this today http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/09/12/7-tips-for-dual-booting-linux-distributions-and-windows/
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: the port to connect to is 22, just like you would a 'normal' SSH connection
[09:52] <esing> ActionParsnip No, Windows is not mentioned
[09:52] <DoctorD90> I use es manager, and it is able on sftp ^^ thx ^^
[09:52] <mad578> bustacap: try grep -r --include=*.foo "something" .
[09:53] <DoctorD90> Now i try..installation is completed
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: sweet, no need for crappy ftp then, port forward port 22 on the router to the system and you will be able to access your data from anywhere :):)
[09:55] <esing> MonkeyDust Yes I followed more or less those tips
[09:55] <esing> How can I set it up manually, now that Ubuntu did not take care itself?
[09:56] <DoctorD90> Ok...it seems be able on sftp...even if i dont know if it is installed proftpd
[09:56] <DoctorD90> ....sorry
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: you can check with:  dpkg -l | grep proftp
[09:57] <DoctorD90> Sftp works, but is installed proftpd, so idk if is proftpd or openssh
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: then it will be openssh-server you are connecting to
[09:58] <DoctorD90> I dont understan that message xP >> [11:43] (gordonjcp) DoctorD90: once you've finished installing proftpd, break out the install media and wipe and reinstall your machine
[09:58] <DoctorD90> Ok..i check line in conf of sshd
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: its to test the unattended config, but its not needed now
[10:00] <DoctorD90> Ah ok
[10:00] <DoctorD90> It is my first server, so i dont really know what do, and what is useless^^
[10:01] <esing> Why I do not see my other connected HDD's in Ubuntu explorer?
[10:01] <DoctorD90> Ok subsystem sftp uncommented, is openssh....
[10:01] <DoctorD90> Good ^^ so i havent to install proftpd
[10:03] <esing> sudo fdisk -l  just shows this two partitions http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202292/
[10:03] <esing> Windows 7 recognizes all HDD's, why does Ubuntu not?
[10:03] <ikonia> esing: what other hard disks are there
[10:03] <ikonia> esing: that just shows one disk with 2 partitions
[10:03] <MonkeyDust> esing  is that the complete output of fdisk -l?
[10:04] <esing> MonkeyDust yes
[10:04] <esing> ikonia There are two other HDD's but none are shown.
[10:05] <ikonia> esing: what type of disks are they , are they raided ? are they on a seperate controller ?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: true, fewer services equals more secure OS
[10:06] <esing> ikonia: No they are not "raided". What do you mean by seperate controller?
[10:06] <ikonia> esing: are they sat on a different disk controller than the disk you can see ?
[10:07] <esing> ikonia Sorry I do not understand your question.
[10:07] <DoctorD90> Only....in proftpd it is there "chdir" setting, that 'jail' user in his home....here how can i do?
[10:07] <esing> I do not know what "disk controller" is
[10:08] <DoctorD90> Yep actionparsnip..for this now i will not install more proftpd....and again, sftp is more secure than ftp :D
[10:08] <e66> I am getting " Starting crash report submission daemon                                                                                [fail]" all the time on 12.04
[10:08] <esing> ikonia Alright I understood your question. They are both on Sata2
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: indeed
[10:09] <e66> ... why I get this?
[10:09] <mrAlmond> Hi everyone
[10:09] <DoctorD90> Indeed = not necesary?
[10:10] <mrAlmond> can I use a regular ubuntu 12.04 on a server with a raid 1 array?
[10:10] <mrAlmond> or must I use ubuntu server?
[10:10] <ikonia> esing: what file system is on those disks
[10:10] <DoctorD90> But i like that, once connected, im yet in my folder, and i havent find it....
[10:11] <esing> ikonia 2x NTSF
[10:11] <esing> I installed Ubuntu after Windows 7 (HDD#1) on a seperate HDD#2. Its bootloader was also installed on HDD#2. When booting HDD#2 I do not see Grub's menu to choose between HDD#1 or HDD#2. What made I wrong and how can I solve my problem?
[10:11] <ikonia> esing: you have two problems - your install problem is minor, what's more concerning is why the second disk can't be seen
[10:12] <ChapZ> hi folks, i have a question. i am new to ubuntu, and well this is question is not much with ubuntu, but its more with hardware/processor. i got thinkpad t410 and the cpu is i5-520M, i wish to know if i can upgrade the processor to i5-2540m? google tells me they are almost identical in all ways. suggestions please.
[10:12] <hfic> ChapZ,  /join ##hardware
[10:12] <ChapZ> okay hfic thanks
[10:13] <mad578> esing: what's the output of the command cat /proc/partitions? maybe this provides some more informations
[10:17] <DoctorD90> I find on internet:
[10:17] <DoctorD90> * Change the default sftp server from: Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server to: Subsystem sftp internal-sftp
[10:17] <DoctorD90> What this change does?
[10:18] <hassan> plzz....help....my ubuntu doesnt recognize a cd or a usb???
[10:18] <savio> i think i have problem
[10:18] <savio> yesterday i run my update manager and it says something about partial update
[10:19] <savio> what's that i'm using ubuntu 12.04
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> savio: can you give a pastebin of the output of:   sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a
[10:19] <esing> re
[10:19] <DoctorD90> Actionparsnip, what this mean?:
[10:19] <DoctorD90> [12:16] (DoctorD90) * Change the default sftp server from: Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server to: Subsystem sftp internal-sftp
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: I have no idea, sorry
[10:20] <DoctorD90> Internal-sftp ....mmm...bha!
[10:20] <esing> I changed HDD#3 to HDD#1 place, now I can see HDD#3, but still I can not see HDD#1. HDD#1(Windows) is in SATA2 beside HDD#2(Ubuntu).
[10:21] <savio> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202334/
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> savio: ok then run:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    is it smooth?
[10:22] <esing> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202336/
[10:22] <esing> ikonia Any hints yet?
[10:22] <drup4l_n00b> how can I get the string I want in grep like the result of grep is "File directory path    :  sites/default/files " and I just want to get "sites/default/files"
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> drup4l_n00b: you can pipe it into awk
[10:23] <NewWorld> drup4l_n00b:  use sed or awk
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> drup4l_n00b: blah | blah | awk {'print $5'}         possibly (may need to change the 5)
[10:23] <jrib> drup4l_n00b: -o may be an option.  Depends how you search
[10:23] <esing> I think my both problems are connected
[10:24] <esing> Should I do this http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man8/gptsync.8.html ?
[10:24] <savio> ActionParsnip, yeah  its smooth
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> savio: sweet, no problem then :)
[10:24] <drup4l_n00b> thanks ActionParsnip will try ur suggestion
[10:24] <ikonia> esing: hang on
[10:24] <savio> ActionParsnip, why my update manager showing such thing
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> savio: no idea, I don't use that thing
[10:25] <patrickmi> !ciao
[10:25] <patrickmi> !list
[10:25] <patrickmi> !hello
[10:25] <patrickmi> !list
[10:25] <riz0n> Hello. I have Ubuntu Server 12.04 with Postfix,Dovecot,Spamassassin,Clamav,and Amavis. Can someone tell me where I can edit the rules? The filter sets SPF_FAIL to 0.919 and I would like to set it to something like.... 10 ;)
[10:26] <riz0n> I have my filter cut-off at a level 3, but some still pass through and I see that they all have the same SPF_FAIL similarity. SPF records has been an adopted standard for many years now. If the host doesn't have a valid SPF record, then I want to score the message high enough for the Spamassassin/Amavis to flag it as spam.
[10:26] <savio> ActionParsnip, no problem thx for help
[10:27] <pehden> What is a decent IRCd in the repo
[10:27] <loftsy> upgrading just broke my java install
[10:28] <demoo201> good day house
[10:28] <demoo201> can anybody help me on zentyal server
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> pehden: http://www.the-tech-tutorial.com/?p=709
[10:29] <pehden> ActionParsnip thanks
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: ask and see
[10:29] <esing> Should I run sudo dmraid -rE ?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> pehden: all I did was: https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu%20irc%20server
[10:30] <pehden> me to but i forgot about that one.
[10:30] <demoo201> i config my zentyal server as vpn server now i can connect but cant access all the network resources and even the dashboard is not showing the pptp users
[10:30] <ferni> is there old versions of packages stored somewhere online? need to downgrade Thunderbird to 14 from install cd, but missing locale packages and they arent in local at archives either
[10:32] <dr_willis>  so you need versions from an earlier ubuntu release?
[10:32] <esing> Did I install Grub2 into the wrong MBR?
[10:32] <esing> Should I have installed Grub2 into the HDD#1 (Windows) instead of HDD#2(Linux) ?
[10:33] <dr_willis> esing: you can set the bios to boot the other hd
[10:33] <DoctorD90> Actionparsnip: sorry, i have phone out of charge, and i have quit, but can you give me a good howto (good= for noob) on how setup public_html and connect them to www.user.domain.com ??? Many many thx fot all
[10:33] <esing> dr_willis Bios boots HDD#2 with Ubuntu, but Ubuntu does not recognize Windows7 also it does not show WIndows7 HDD in its file manager
[10:33] <ferni> dr_willis: no, earlier versions shipped with precise
[10:34] <esing> So basically my installation failed...
[10:34] <dr_willis> you do mean 2 disks. not 2 prtitions on the same disk
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> DoctorD90: I don't understand the question
[10:34] <esing> I thought Ubuntu takes care of itself when installing Ubuntu after Windows...
[10:34] <dr_willis> ! pin
[10:34] <esing> dr_willis may you help me?
[10:34] <Ben64> 10.04, is there a way to speed up file transfers to NTFS?
[10:34] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, usuially it does if you told it to
[10:35] <DoctorD90> Do you know a good howto about creation of public_html ?
[10:35] <esing> LorSamPau_w_ How should I have told it toß
[10:35] <esing> LorSamPau_w_ I just told Ubuntu to install itself on HDD#2 partition 1
[10:35] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, in install setup it asks you
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: defrag it
[10:35] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: completely blank partition, freshly partitioned
[10:35] <dr_willis> try mounting the windows drive by hand
[10:35] <esing> No it did not ask, I could only choose where it should be installewd
[10:36] <Ben64> 26.8MB/s on VFAT, 15.3MB/s on NTFS
[10:36] <Ben64> same drive, different partitions
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: NTFS is proprietary, vfat isn't
[10:36] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, http://www.techotopia.com/images/7/7a/Ubuntu_11_dual_boot_resize_windows.jpg
[10:36] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: i realize this, but my tv only reads vfat or ntfs
[10:36] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: and vfat doesn't do >4GB
[10:36] <esing> dr_willis How would I do that?
[10:37] <surya> hi
[10:37] <Guest49857> hi
[10:37] <Ben64> dr_willis: was that directed to me?
[10:37] <Guest49857> hi
[10:37] <Guest49857> yep
[10:37] <demoo201> i config my zentyal server as vpn server now i can connect but cant access all the network resources and even the dashboard is not showing the pptp users
[10:37] <ppseafield> 12.04 So I tried to install a deb with dpkg. It installed it and only warned about unsatisfied dependencies. Tried to apt-get those dependencies, but apt complained that my .deb package had unmet dependencies and should try apt-get -f install.
[10:37] <esing> LorSamPau_w_ If you read my problem	thoroughly you would know why that option was not on the screen.
[10:38] <ppseafield> I ran that (and didn't look close enough at what apt said).
[10:38] <ppseafield> Turns out apt-get -f install removed sudo.
[10:38] <jrib> ppseafield: what deb package?
[10:38] <ppseafield> Is there anything I can do to get it back? I have not set the root password myself.
[10:38] <ppseafield> guitar pro 6
[10:39] <zaggynl> hi, I'm trying to speed up my login with "UseDNS no" in sshd_config but with that I can't login, what gives?
[10:39] <DoctorD90> Actionparsnip: [12:34] (DoctorD90) Do you know a good howto about creation of public_html ?
[10:39] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, you can fix it manually but it's very compplicated
[10:39] <jrib> ppseafield: you can use recovery mode from the grub prompt to get a root shell
[10:39] <esing> LorSamPau_w_ You got an instruction to do so?
[10:39] <ppseafield> jrib: thank you!
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: try the mount options:    atime,noatime,relatime
[10:40] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, well, you can restore windows loader in the recovery console that loads in the win7 install cd
[10:40] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, and then edit your grub2 to add this win loader
[10:40] <esing> LorSamPau_w_ What has the windows loader to do with my problem?
[10:40] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, how to do that in every step i do not know
[10:41] <DoctorD90> Bye, mobile phone out of charge, thx for great help ^^
[10:42] <Onyx47> esing, to add to LorSamPau_w_, in windows recovery console use fixboot and fixmbr, on ubuntu do update-grub, it should autodetect windows
[10:42] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: 0.4MB/s faster than before
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: step in the right direction
[10:42] <esing> Onyx47 Why would I use fixboot/fixmbr on windows if my windows loader works just fine?
[10:42] <Ben64> vfat is still almost twice as fast :(
[10:42] <ikonia> esing: apologies, I was just in a meeting
[10:43] <ikonia> esing: have you resolved why your machine can only see 1 disk
[10:43] <ikonia> instead of 2
[10:43] <Onyx47> esing, oh, sorry, I figured it was broken, didn't read from the start
[10:43] <esing> Onyx47 It is not broken.
[10:43] <esing> ikonia No.
[10:43] <ikonia> esing: I would concentrate on that issue, before looking at your installation issues
[10:43] <demoo201> zentyal users pls help meeeee
[10:43] <esing> ikonia I just know that I have to do install Grub2 manually somehow.
[10:43] <^DEMOSS^> i do it )) 10.10 ubuntu now on my virtual machine ))
[10:44] <ikonia> esing: forget grub for the moment
[10:44] <esing> ikonia Both issues are related.
[10:44] <ikonia> esing: you are missing a disk
[10:44] <ikonia> esing: no, they are not
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: ask and see if anyone can help
[10:44] <^DEMOSS^> ahahha Russian pple can do all )
[10:44] <ikonia> esing: grub has nothing to do with if your OS can see a disk or not
[10:44] <samkan> Hi, I am getting this error Gdk:ERROR:/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.20.1/gdk/gdkregion-generic.c:1108:miUnionNonO: assertion failed: (y1 < y2)
[10:44] <samkan> is there any workarround for the same?
[10:44] <ppseafield> jrib: i don't have the root password; can't get root recovery console
[10:44] <ikonia> samkan: that line on it's own is usless
[10:44] <demoo201> i asked nobody is answering me
[10:44] <esing> ikonia Ofc it does. Grub prolly did not take care of Windows7 because it was not detected :)
[10:44] <jrib> opalepatrick: it will not ask you for a root password, unless one was set
[10:45] <ikonia> esing: grub is a boot loader, it has nothing to do with your actual OS and if it can see a disk or not
[10:45] <esing> ikonia What should I do now?
[10:45] <samkan> but from where this error is coming?
[10:45] <samkan> and why this error occur,
[10:45] <ikonia> esing: so how many physical hard disks do you have
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: can you ping IPs on the network you are VPNing to?
[10:45] <esing> ikonia Three.
[10:45] <ppseafield> jrib: I'm pretty sure I didn't set a root password, but maybe I did. It was a while ago.
[10:45] <ikonia> samkan: what are you doing to create that error
[10:45] <ikonia> esing: how big are the disks ?
[10:46] <demoo201> (actionparsnip)
[10:46] <demoo201> i cant ping
[10:46] <ppseafield> jrib: am I screwed?
[10:46] <jrib> ppseafield: did you try just using a common password?  If you can't remember it, then reboot, change the kernel line to end with "init=/bin/bash" and then reset the password there
[10:46] <esing> HDD#1 (Win7) 1TB, HDD#2 (Ubuntu) 2TB , HDD#3 160GB
[10:46] <samkan> I am running InkScape for vector drawing on Ubuntu 10.04 lts
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: is there a route for the netmask to go down the vpn?
[10:46] <samkan> whenever this error occur my software crash
[10:46] <ikonia> esing: can you please post the output of "sudo fdisk -l" again in a pastebin
[10:46] <ppseafield> jrib: I tried several. Thanks. I'll try that.
[10:47] <ikonia> esing: please paste EVERYTHING it displays
[10:47] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, in ubuntu in gparted is there your win7 drive?
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> esing  use pastebinit to that end
[10:47] <Ben64> ActionParsnip: changing my cpu governor from "On Demand" to "Performance" nets a ~5MB/s improvement in ntfs write speed, looks as though cpu is the limiting factor in ntfs-3g
[10:48] <esing> ikonia I put HDD#3 on HDD#1 slot and HDD#1 SATA cable next to HDD#1 Sata slot (both SATA2), resulting that I can see now HDD#3 but not HDD#1 yet http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202271/
[10:48] <ikonia> esing: that is not fdisk -l
[10:48] <ikonia> esing: please post the output I asked you for
[10:48] <uosiu> How to setup dm-crypt on ubuntu12.04 to ask only one for a password that is the same on several volumes?
[10:48] <uosiu> only once*
[10:48] <esing> ikonia Yes I mixed the link up. One moment
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> esing  type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste the url here
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: if you run:  route    is there a route to the VPN'd network being pushed down the VPN device?
[10:50] <esing> ikonia http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202373/
[10:50] <samkan_> Gdk:ERROR:/build/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.20.1/gdk/gdkregion-generic.c:1108:miUnionNonO: assertion failed: (y1 < y2)
[10:50] <samkan_> I am looking for the solution for this problem
[10:50] <ikonia> esing: what is the size of the disk that's missing 2TB?
[10:51] <esing> ikonia What do you mean?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> samkan_: what causes the error?
[10:51] <ikonia> esing: never mind, I can see it myself
[10:51] <ikonia> esing: it's the 1TB disk that's missing
[10:52] <esing> ikonia HDD#2 (2TB) got 1,8TB data NTFS and 20GB Linux, there is missing not space
[10:52] <ikonia> esing: I meant the size of the physical hard disk
[10:52] <ikonia> esing: you have a 1TB hard disk missing
[10:52] <ikonia> correct ?
[10:52] <esing> Yes
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> samkan_: what causes the error?
[10:52] <ikonia> esing: ok, is it possible there is a physical problem with the cable/drive bay it sits in ?
[10:53] <esing> ikonia No because I run it when changing boot order
[10:53] <radedo_> problema con la risoluzione dello schermo
[10:53] <root__> hi everybody- I am newbee and having problem instaling RT 2870 driver, when SUDO MAKE brings error
[10:53] <ikonia> you run what ?
[10:53] <esing> ikonia Want me to switch cables and try out?
[10:53] <ikonia> esing: it's up to you, I'm just asking if there is any possability of a hardware problem
[10:53] <ferni> does install dvd contain language packages?
yes but is for openvpn but this is for pptp and has diff ip
[10:53] <esing> ikonia They are both in Sata2 , so it is rather a software problem
[10:54] <ikonia> esing: what do you mean, they are both in Sata2 ?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: thats normal, is there a route listed for the remote subnet?
[10:54] <ikonia> how can 2 disks share the same sata port
[10:54] <esing> I got SATA3 and SATA2 controllers
[10:54] <radedo_> aiuto
[10:54] <esing> ikonia Ubuntu does not recognize SATA3 at all.
[10:54] <ikonia> esing: yes, but they don't share the same cable, the same controller port
[10:54] <ikonia> esing: ahhhhhh
[10:54] <ikonia> esing: ok, there we go
[10:54] <ikonia> esing: so the issue is your sata 3 controller is not picked up by ubuntu
[10:55] <ikonia> esing: is the sata3 controller part of your motherboard or an additional controller ?
[10:55] <esing> ikonia part of my MoBo
[10:55] <LorSamPau_w_> like a raid controller
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> esing  guess a solution was found here   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1456238
[10:55] <samkan> I don't know, it comes randomly
[10:55] <radedo_> ciao qualkuno parla italiano?
[10:56] <samkan> Most of the time it coming with InkScape
[10:56] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: how is that going to fix his sata3 controller not being detected ?
[10:56] <samkan> I am using inkscape as a verctor drawing, whenever this error occur, program crash
[10:56] <MindSpark> hello I am running 12.04 and after this dist-upgrade the system keeps doing fsck's on startup all the time. I did a manual one to fix all errors and checked using tune2fs to see if the fs was clean afterwards, and it was. However I still keep getting those forced fscks on startup. Does anyone know about this issue?
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> ikonia  esing idd, there was no solution found, just re-read it
[10:57] <esing> ikonia I have enough SATA2 ports, that is why I put all HDD's into SATA2 ports instead SATA3. THat is how I avoided SATA3 issues.
[10:57] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: I've asked you this before - please please please, stop posting things which are nothing to do with th eproblem
[10:57] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: if you don't have an answer, don't post random things
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> samkan: are there any bugs reported?
[10:57] <ikonia> esing: ok, so all 3 disks are now on the sata 2 ports, yes ?
[10:57] <enyc> MindSpark: hrrm  this might seem silly but  check  'memtest' on the computer..  i've had cases, where motherboard/ram/cpu/capacitors were not ahppy and it was causing all sorts of chaos/broken-filesystems/etc
[10:57] <esing> ikonia yes
[10:58] <ikonia> esing: so even with all 3 disks on sata 2 controllers, you are still missing a disk yes ?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: could use IDE compatibility in BIOS
[10:58] <enyc> MindSpark: this then leads to filesystem corruption, which then leads to 'forced fsck' etc.
[10:58] <MindSpark> enyc, but tune2fs says fs is clean ?
[10:58] <albech> this new dns crap in 12.04 is causing so much frustration :( I really hope there is a greater purpose with implementing it
[10:58] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, thats really odd
[10:58] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: depends if the bios supports it, and the last line he's posted suggests the sata3 statement maybe a red herring
[10:58] <esing> ikonia yes
[10:58] <fairuz> MindSpark: check / if there is a file called forcefsck. IIRC, if you have this file, it will force fsck at each boot
[10:58] <enyc> MindSpark: hrrm if you shutdown and reboot again  quikcyl ?
[10:58] <albech> using dns over vpn is a pain in the @$$ now
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> albech: you can disable it, why not ask how rather than pointles whining which actually achieves zero
[10:59] <enyc> MindSpark: is it actually 'filesystem marked dirty' error or just some ubuntu-buggy-being-silly ?
[10:59] <ikonia> esing: please output the following command "sudo blkid" and pastebin it
[10:59] <samkan> no, it is gtk bug, not software bug
[11:00] <MindSpark> enyc, I am not sure. I'll check again
[11:00] <dr_willis> MindSpark:  does it say why its fscking. any messages like 'last fsck date set to future' or 'fsck count reashed'
[11:00] <samkan> even it is coming with some other tool also.
[11:00] <MindSpark> fairuz, nope, no such file
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> albech: if you ask questions you are being constructive. Moaning spams the channel and people will simply not advise you as you have not got a sensible question
[11:00] <albech> ActionParsnip, i still dont understand why they are making changes like that in a LTS release.. this has a major impact on enterprise setups
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> albech: it works fine here
[11:00] <sa_> Hi, somebody can help me with installing RT2870 driver? when SUDO MAKE i receive error
[11:00] <enyc> MindSpark: dr_willis making another good point.  It can be your system clock going (e.g. CMOS battery flat)  such that time wrong such that it always thinks its' time to check or so
[11:01] <esing> ikonia http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1202388/
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> sa_: linux commands are usually all lower case
[11:01] <MindSpark> dr_willis, the netbooks cmos battery is not working properly anymore. So I have to set the time/date on each startup. It used to be a problem like you mentioned, that the last mount is in the future. Until I would just set the time every on every boot
[11:01] <in0cula> I have a connection to internet via wifi, now I have a mini pc that i want connect to eth0 to ssh on it, but every time i plug the eth0 the wifi loose internet connection even if is still connected, any help?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> sa_: which wifi chip do you use?
[11:01] <bee> hello?
[11:01] <vak> hi all
[11:01] <dr_willis> saw a bug in beta that had fscks due to a date bug.
[11:01] <bee> my nvidia deriver does not work at all
[11:01] <enyc> MindSpark: drrm ok  cmos batteries can be replaced i've done it before
[11:01] <MindSpark> and since I started setting the time on each boot things went fine. But now, even that won't make a difference
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> in0cula: use /etc/network/interfaces to configure the ethernet and let network manager manage the wifi (one way to do it)
[11:02] <enyc> MindSpark: it would be much better to just fix that.
[11:02] <MindSpark> enyc, for the eee it's a pain in the ...
[11:02] <ikonia> esing: Hmm, it really can't see that 3rd disk, I would check the cables
[11:02] <enyc> MindSpark: aaat take motherboard out,  unplug speakers etc.. yah i know =)
[11:02] <sa_> ActionParsnip: yes was lowercase, its RT2870 Ralink USB
[11:02] <esing> Ok
[11:02] <vak> Login dialog sometimes doesn't appear after lock-kscreen on idle -- anyone researched this issue already?
[11:02] <in0cula> ActionParsnip: good idea, I'll do it now
[11:02] <MindSpark> ok, so there was a fsck at this boot
[11:02] <in0cula> thx
[11:02] <MindSpark> and I just checked filesystem using tune2fs
[11:02] <MindSpark> Filesystem state:         not clean
[11:02] <enyc> MindSpark: still it could just be that fixing that will properly fix it   the hwclock may not register properly at all
[11:02] <MindSpark> :S
[11:02] <bee> after nvidia setting then,i can not enter the desk top
[11:03] <albech> ActionParsnip, i wasnt looking for advice when i typed it.. needed to vent ;)
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> albech: wrong channel then...this is support only
[11:03] <enyc> MindSpark: when running, check 'dmesg' for warnings
[11:03] <enyc> MindSpark: it may SAY that it has found error and marked filessytem dirty
[11:03] <bee> so,how to write the xconfig with nvidia
[11:03] <bee> come on man
[11:03] <enyc> MindSpark: this would be helpful to know if that is actually happening, or not
[11:03] <MindSpark> what do I grep for in dmesg?
[11:04] <bee> hello
[11:04] <bee> mine
[11:04] <dr_willis> bee i let  nvidia-settings do it
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> bee: sudo nvidia-xconfig      have some damn patience child
[11:04] <bee> hello,somebody
you mean the dns or the ip
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: a route to the subnet, it needs to be routed down the VPN link
i can not do it
[11:05] <enyc> MindSpark: you get used to reading it and whats normal
[11:05] <enyc> MindSpark: the most useful think todo is  firstly  dmesg  and then look again later and see what 'new' messages have appeared
[11:05] <sa_> #ubuntu-beginners
am a beginner on zentyal can u pls explain a bit
because, everytime ,i let it go,but i comes out to me in the end without the desktop
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> bee: thats the command for the nvidia app to make an xorg.conf
[11:05] <enyc> MindSpark: i suspect 'e4' or 'ext4' may be part of the line you need to see but not sure
[11:06] <enyc> MindSpark: there should be something about filesystem dirty or error on device or whatever,  it will give you clues if that is actually happening
[11:06] <bee> sudo nvidia-xconfig--->make things worse
[11:06] <enyc> MindSpark: besides which you might want to see erros about the block device, not an ext4fs error
yeah,that's the worse key point
[11:07] <enyc> MindSpark: 'dmesg' tells you what the kernel has to say for itself, read it all, look at it, learn think, ask questions
[11:07] <dr_willis> an xorg.conf file in not needed normally. unless you are using nvidas twinview.
[11:07] <MindSpark> enyc, alright, thanks
[11:07] <dr_willis> or other special features
[11:08] <enyc> MindSpark: in my 'dmesg' I have a load of lines from "EXT4-fs" when it mounted and 'recovered' my filesystem (i had powercut...)
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: my TV sets 3000 dpi and some ridiculously high res. Makes the icons microscopic and the text about 3 inches high. Sinle display
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: needs xorg.conf ;)
[11:09] <MindSpark> I'll have a look at it, thanks!
[11:13] <esing> re
[11:14] <demoo201> ActionParsnip you mean i have to link it on the server in a static routes
[11:14] <esing> ikonia I tried out several cable combinations until I found a combination that works
[11:14] <esing> ikonia I see WIndows7 drive in file manager. How would I fix my grub2 issue now?
[11:14] <esing> ikonia I still do not see Windows7 in grub2 boot loader
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: if a route hasn't been made to tel the OS to route trafic to the VPN'd subnet you will need to tell it, otherwise it willust go to the WWW and not connect
[11:15] <sedeki> how do I configure whether to use gdm/kdm ?
[11:16] <demoo201> Actionparnip you i have to do that on the server or on the windows(client)
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> demoo201: there is the route command on Windows too, you should check the routing table first
[11:17] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, you need to edit your grub.cfg, and to do that you need to edit one of the files from what grub.cfg compiles: /etc/grub.d/40_custom... i think you can google it
[11:20] <stricjux> Ubuntu as a Samba server trully sucks. I've spent the best part of last two days of setting up shares and I still cannot access shares with more than one username (the one username works perfectly tho).
[11:20] <demoo201> actionparsnip on my routing table i can see the gateway of my vpn server
[11:20] <sa___> Hi I have problems to instal my wifi adapter Ralink USB, RT 2870, when I sudo make I receive error, somebody can help?
[11:21] <stricjux> Samba+Ubuntu: Anyone here that could at least help me debug my setup as everything should work considering my current configuration.
[11:22] <dr_willis> sa___:  pastebin the exact errors
[11:23] <esing> LorSamPau_w_ What should I put for this  set root=(hd0,1)
[11:23] <fidel> !details > stricjux
[11:23] <esing> fdisk -l only shows me /dev/sda or sdb but not hd0 hd1 etc??
[11:24] <esing> sda= hd0 ?
[11:24] <blackshirt> esing, hd0,hd1 was term for old driver
[11:25] <usr13> stricjux: pastebinit smb.conf
[11:25] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, i've never done that, i know just the way, not the exect code
[11:25] <usr13> stricjux: Which user works?
[11:26] <esing> sudo update-grub2 helped me
[11:26] <esing> I will reboot to see if it really worked
[11:27] <gianpietro> hi all guys
[11:28] <gianpietro> could u please help me with chrome+ubuntu+flash?
[11:28] <hfic> !flash
[11:28] <gianpietro> don't know why with many many videos on youtube
[11:28] <gianpietro> it grasches
[11:28] <gianpietro> *crashes
[11:29] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, try to disable hardware acceleration
[11:29] <blackshirt> install flashplugin-nonfree
[11:31] <gianpietro> i'll try both...in reversed order...;)
[11:31] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, give us some feedback)
[11:31] <gianpietro> i will
[11:32] <gianpietro> LordDeath, blackfrank:  sh0t@nemesis:~$ sudo apt-cache search flash|grep -i nonfree
[11:32] <gianpietro> flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound - Adobe Flash Player platform support library for Esound and OSS
[11:33] <gianpietro> i should have other packets
[11:33] <gianpietro> right?
[11:33] <gianpietro> how do i check wich version of flash plugin i have instaleld
[11:33] <gianpietro> ?
[11:33] <gianpietro> *which
[11:33] <Ben64> !enter | gianpietro
[11:34] <gianpietro> k
[11:34] <Ben64> gianpietro: to answer your question - http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[11:34] <blackshirt> !flash
[11:35] <sa___> dr_willis: error message http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202432/
[11:35] <demoo201> Actionparsnip can i meet you on personal thing
[11:36] <sazawal> My filesystem is showing I have 9.6 GB free and 5 GB available on / partition. As well as 21.3 GB free and 2.8 GB available on another partition. Doesn't it looks like Ubuntu is reserving too much space for root?
[11:36] <Ben64> sazawal: default is (I think) 5%
[11:36] <gianpietro> LorSamPau_w_, how do I disable hardware acceleration?
[11:37] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, rightclick on the flashvideo or another flashobject
[11:37] <spikhoff> join #arch
[11:39] <ppseafield> jrib: Hey, I don't actually know where to put this init=/bin/bash line. My grub.cfg doesn't have a `kernel' line in anything
[11:39] <gianpietro> LorSamPau_w_, it doesn't allow me to disable it...I mean i click on it but the sign doesn't go away..but I  don't think it depends on that because with some videos it works
[11:39] <jrib> ppseafield: you don't need to edit grub.cfg, just press 'e' at the grub screen
[11:39] <ppseafield> right, but there's no `kernel' entry at the boot screen because there isn't any in grub.cfg
[11:40] <ppseafield> there's no kernel entry anywhere
[11:40] <gianpietro> and also with firefox it always works.
[11:40] <jrib> ppseafield: you don't have any lines displayed to you in grub?
[11:40] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, i had problems with videos on youtube... some were fine, some were not, disabling hardware accel worked for me
[11:40] <ppseafield> jrib: I do, but none of them have `kernel' in them as commands.
[11:40] <jrib> ppseafield: it probably says "linux" and ends in quiet splash
[11:41] <ppseafield> jrib: I thought that's where I was supposed to put it, so I tried it there. Kernel Panic
[11:41] <gianpietro> LorSamPau_w_,  I see.. thank you, but the problem now is that I can't disable it..
[11:41] <Ben64> gianpietro: go to a youtube video, right click, settings, uncheck the box
[11:41] <jrib> ppseafield: what did your line look like exactly?
[11:42] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, In many cases though the box can't be clicked. If that's the case then you must not have scrollbars present so use F11 to fullscreen the window, then you'll be able to click in the box. After doing so press F11 again to return to normal window.
[11:42] <ppseafield> jrib: linux	/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-26-generic root=UUID=7b5fabe7-b35e-4c26-ac69-847e35c5bb45 ro   splash quiet $vt_handoff init=/bin/bash
[11:42] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[11:42] <ppseafield> jrib: also tried with just ro init=/bin/bash
[11:42] <LorSamPau_w_> Ben64, he tried that
[11:43] <gianpietro> I didn't try the full screen thing
[11:43] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, try it
[11:43] <jrib> ppseafield: well that's kind of weird.  You can just use a live cd, chroot to your install, and install sudo I suppose
[11:43] <root___> haha
[11:43] <ppseafield> jrib: okay, I'll do that. thanks for all the help
[11:44] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, if that disabling HA wouldn't help - try to uninstall flash and install gnash instead
[11:44] <gianpietro> LorSamPau_w_,  i think i 'll try your last advice.
[11:44] <dr_willis> i just use  flashreplacer extensions to play flash in vlc.
[11:45] <dr_willis> or flash downloaders
[11:45] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, do you use compiz?
[11:45] <gianpietro> yes I do
[11:46] <gianpietro> at least this is what ps says
[11:46] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, i think becaouse of compiz you can't uncheck the box
[11:46] <gianpietro> should I kill it?
[11:47] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, if fullscreen doesn't work - just disable compiz for a moment
[11:47] <omgunetbootinsux> yo
[11:48] <aLeSD|> i all
[11:48] <aLeSD|> someone know why I have not git-p4 file ?
[11:48] <gianpietro> sorry how do I disable compiz temprary?
[11:48] <aLeSD|> I have the docs but not the binary
[11:49] <gianpietro> LorSamPau_w_,
[11:49] <gianpietro> sorry how do I disable compiz temprary?
[11:49] <ubuntuinstall120> anyone able to help explain why i can't install ubuntu?
[11:49] <ubuntuinstall120> i'm trying to install 12.04 server, 64 bit, from a USB key.
[11:49] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, log out and choose other options like ubuntu classic or unity
[11:49] <ubuntuinstall120> after the boot menu, selecting install, all i get is a blank screen.
[11:49] <gianpietro> ok
[11:52] <gianpietro> LorSamPau_w_, it was not the hw accelration! :(
[11:52] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, use gnash than
[11:53] <gianpietro> i have gnash installed already...
[11:53] <ubuntuinstall120> any ideas why i'm getting a blank screen trying to install 12.04 server? boot menu comes up, but after choosing language, etc. the screen clears and just sits there...
[11:53] <LorSamPau_w_> gianpietro, if i was in your shoes i'll just use mozilla )
[11:56] <ubuntuinstall120> nup.
[11:56] <sazawal> My filesystem is showing I have 9.6 GB free and 5 GB available on / partition. As well as 21.3 GB free and 2.8 GB available on another partition. Doesn't it looks like Ubuntu is reserving too much space for root?
[11:56] <ubuntuinstall120> can't install.
[11:56] <ubuntuinstall120> great.
[11:56] <gianpietro> maybe  need to install browser-plugin-gnash
[11:56] <gianpietro> not working either...how do I select which plugin i need to use with update-alternatives?
[11:57] <gianpietro> i mean flash.
[11:57] <intel1> hey
[11:58] <gianpietro> LorSamPau_w_, .... i guess i will try a little bit nore to fix this shit...after gonna go eat something now... thank you everybody! :)
[12:00] <intel1> see this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=783616
[12:00] <intel1> i wanna understand what this means : Copy the script below and save it on your Documents Folder.
[12:00] <intel1> and how can i save it
[12:01] <jrib> intel1: create a new text file, copy and paste
[12:01] <intel1> jrib : r u saw the link
[12:01] <jrib> intel1: yes
[12:01] <intel1> k ty jrib
[12:02] <jrib> intel1: and ideally you would read the script and make sure it's not malicious
[12:03] <intel1> i think its official cuz its taked from the playonlinux.com
[12:04] <intel1> and at all i can't read or understand this
[12:04] <intel1> jrib : am a newbie ubuntu user XD
[12:04] <intel1> jrib : am trying to make my .exe files and games work on ubuntu
[12:04] <rajat> hello
[12:04] <intel1> jrib : so i can leave Windows for ever
[12:04] <sburjan> Hello. Can Open Office and Lire Office be installed on the same machine and co-exist gracefully ?
[12:06] <sazawal> My filesystem is showing I have 9.6 GB free and 5 GB available on / partition. As well as 21.3 GB free and 2.8 GB available on another partition. Doesn't it looks like Ubuntu is reserving too much space for root?
[12:07] <Ben64> sazawal: default is 5%
[12:07] <sazawal> Ben64, Yes but why my other partition is reserving so much space
[12:08] <sazawal> Ben64, / partition is already  reserving 5% and that is okay
[12:08] <Ben64> because the other partition is bigger?
[12:08] <sazawal> Ben64, So every partition is required to save 5% of space
[12:09] <Ben64> sazawal: that is the default setting, it is changeable
[12:10] <tmf> Hey a question i went from samba 3.4 smt to 3.6.3  and now it doesnt work, i cannot access the samba shares/pc at all
[12:10] <tmf> did not change smb.conf or smt like that
[12:11] <tmf> any idea`
[12:12] <sazawal> Ben64, I need to ask is, is it okay for my system to remove all the reserved space from other partition?
[12:13] <Ben64> sazawal: not sure what you mean
[12:14] <sazawal> Ben64, 20 GB is too much space it is reserving for root. So is it okay to move all the reserved space to available space ?
[12:14] <racho> hello anyone can point out a good resource for ipsec  site2site  configuration between servers on diff networks
[12:14] <sazawal> Ben64, I wont remove reserved space from / partition
[12:15] <sapharoth> sazawal: i suggest you dont do.cause may be some important files exist on those reserved parts. if only you are that the reserved is no more used
[12:16] <sapharoth> * if only you are sure
[12:16] <Ben64> sapharoth: no files exist in reserved blocks
[12:16] <Ben64> sazawal: yes you can change the amount reserved, look at tune2fs man page
[12:17] <sazawal> Ben64, yes i have looked into that. I wanted to confirm that how much should I leave before doing that.
[12:17] <Ben64> sazawal: going above 95% usage on a partition could make the filesystem fragmented
[12:18] <sazawal> Ben64, ohh. But 20 GB reserved ? It is too much
[12:23] <aristidesfl> hi, is it possible to activate sudo for a bunch of commands
[12:23] <aristidesfl> and then get out
[12:23] <LorSamPau_w_> aristidesfl, just type them after sudo
[12:23] <aristidesfl> LorSamPau_w_ without that
[12:25] <tmf> in the logs it says   Cant open username map /etc/samba/smbusers
[12:25] <tmf> no samba ppl here?
[12:25] <sapharoth> commands which need root privileges need to use sudo.
[12:25] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[12:26] <LorSamPau_w_> i think the only way is to be logged in as root
[12:26] <sapharoth> aristidesfl, that's why no one can access root privileges directly
[12:26] <ztane> where could I look for poedit >= 1.5 for precise?
[12:26] <sapharoth> or you can login as root
[12:26] <Ben64> !root
[12:27]  * skraito say hi all
[12:27]  * nicekiwi meow
[12:27] <sapharoth> aristidesfl, as ubotto said
[12:27]  * reborn says hi to skraito
[12:27] <ztane> hmm
[12:27] <skraito> how are ya all reborn
[12:28]  * reborn is fine asusual
[12:28] <lemmy> Hi, I'm puzzled as to why I have to pass --cacert /usr/share/ca-certificates/cacert.org/cacert.org.crt to curl when connecting to a cacert.org signed site (without .error:14090086:SSL routines:SSL3_GET_SERVER_CERTIFICATE:certificate verify failed) After all the crt is part of ca-certificates.deb.
[12:28]  * nicekiwi "They're waiting for you Gordon.." - blackmesasource.com
[12:30] <kami> test
[12:34] <kami> test
[12:39] <jamg> hi
[12:42] <sapharoth> hey jamg
[12:45] <subdes1gn> how to switch off hdd "sleep mode", i mean if start to use, the hdd clicks one, and then i can reach it. so i want to permanently accessible after system boot
[12:45] <subdes1gn> i dont know what the exact word for it but i think its mounted just in sleep mode
[12:55] <Guest27915> theadmin, oh, damn.
[12:56] <dr_willis> this is 2 seperate hard drives right. not 1 hd with partitions
[12:56] <theadmin> dr_willis: Windows doesn't really care about that ;) Windows creates the boot partition on the first HD
[12:56] <Guest27915> dr_willis, yeah two hard drives. sda is the one with Ubuntu and this unknown partition, and sdb only has windows
[12:56] <dr_willis> just making sure hes not calling partitions drives. :)
[12:57] <dr_willis>  unplug the linux one as a test  perhaps.
[12:57] <Guest27915> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202156/ does this help? It is boot information script
[12:57] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone.  I'm on 10.04 64-bit.  I need bsdmake.  How do I get it?
[12:58] <Guest27915> dr_willis, because it uses grub2 as bootloader now that will give me more issues I think
[12:59] <dr_willis> somthing is weird with what youve said and the disk layouts.
[13:00] <Guest27915> dr_willis, theadmin: This is a screenshot from gparted too. http://i.imgur.com/orDnB.png
[13:00] <dr_willis> if windows was totally on sdb dud yiu add sda recently?
[13:00] <dr_willis> did you..
[13:01] <Cong> does the rubbish bin have a limit? and what's the canonical limit?
[13:01] <dr_willis> sdb looks like just a ntfs storage to me.
[13:01] <Cong> and how is it changed?
[13:01] <Guest27915> not recently, but it is my newest
[13:02] <dr_willis> sdb does not look like a windows install to me. its missing the boot partion that win7 uses
[13:02] <ciccio> salve
[13:05] <Guest27915> hello?
[13:05] <Guest27915> dr_willis, oh, maybe you are right.
[13:05] <Guest27915> strange it wasn't sending my messages
[13:06] <enyc> MindSpark: ok have you learnt anything? is your filessytem getting remounted / error-marked when shutting down?
[13:07] <thomasmyrman> Hello. I'm trying to remove the sidemenu that unity brings with Oneiric Ocelot. I don't want to uninstall all of Unity. Can I do this?
[13:14] <esing> hi
[13:14] <esing> How do I change grub's background image?
[13:15] <BluesKaj_> Hey all
[13:15] <esing> I tried it with "grub customizer" and by moving the background image file into /boot/grub . Neither worked. Suggestions?
[13:21] <Kami> hello - I've installed ubuntu 3.0.017 , I am logged in as admin and am trying to edit /etc/apache2/site-available/default     -- for some reasons, I don't have the permissions and can't change them because I  need to be the root user. Why is that ? Thanks.
[13:21] <blackshirt> Kami, yes
[13:22] <blackshirt> you should edit it with some higher privileges
[13:22] <LorSamPau_w_> kami, there is no admin user... you need root privileges
[13:22] <ldz420> I am able to view files on a windows box from browse network folder.. I can also move files.. I wanted to mount this folder on my files system does ubuntu12.04 comes with commands to do this ?
[13:22] <ldz420> or will I have to install them
[13:22] <LorSamPau_w_> !sudo | blackshirt
[13:23] <Kami> blackshirt - hi I am a newbie -  but I do I set up my root priviledge from the command terminal .... ?
[13:23] <blackshirt> LorSamPau_w_:  nothing matter to me :d lol
[13:23] <LorSamPau_w_> blackshirt, type sudo nano /etc/apache2/site-available/default - then type in your password
[13:23] <esing> How do I change grub's background image? I tried it with "grub customizer" and by moving the background image file into /boot/grub . Neither worked. Suggestions?
[13:24] <blackshirt> LorSamPau_w_: not me guys
[13:24] <blackshirt> LorSamPau_w_: that was for Kami
[13:24] <blackshirt> LorSamPau_w_: you have been noticed
[13:24] <BluesKaj_> Kami, you should have done so during the install when asked for username and password
[13:25] <LorSamPau_w_> blackshirt, sorry
[13:25] <Guest27915> dr_willis, I just tried boot repair and got this: 'GPT detected. Please create a BIOS-Boot partition (>1MB, unformatted filesystem, bios_grub flag). This can be performed via tools such as Gparted. Then try again. Alternatively, you can retry after activating the [Separate /boot/efi partition:] option.'
[13:25] <LorSamPau_w_> Kami, type sudo nano /etc/apache2/site-available/default - then type in your password
[13:25] <Kami> so you mean that every time I edit or create a new file, I' ll have to type this entire line ?
[13:26] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, you need to change it in the /etc/grub.d/ - there is some script files that compiles into the grub cfg
[13:26] <LorSamPau_w_> Kami, just in the directory that need a root privilage
 ok thanks
[13:29] <jabbar> hi
[13:29] <ldz420> hey jabbar
[13:30] <jabbar> i am ready to answer ur question?
[13:30] <LorSamPau_w_> esing, /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme - that's that file
[13:31] <jabbar> 1549 guy have no q?
[13:31] <Cong> what's the rubbish-bins' size limit? and how do I change it?
[13:32] <dr_willis> how do you know it has a limit?
[13:33] <dr_willis> id say check askubuntu.com cong
[13:33] <Cong> I deleted someone files and they aren't there anymore.
[13:33] <dr_willis> deleted from where.
[13:34] <LorSamPau_w_> i don't think that it has a limit
[13:34] <dr_willis> and how
[13:34] <Cong> I sent them to the rubbish bin and there was only one big file left. That made me think there must be a limit.
[13:34] <LorSamPau_w_> are you sure that the deleted files were in the trash in the first place?
[13:35] <Cong> I'm very sure I deleted them and they were sent to the rubbish bin.
[13:35] <dr_willis> in some cases it will delete and not move to trash
[13:36] <LorSamPau_w_> Cong, gksudo nautilus '/root/.Trash/'
[13:36] <LorSamPau_w_> Cong, make sure that there is no hidden files in the trash
[13:36] <Guest27915> some guys in #windows told me to use gparted to make a new msdos boot record. anyone know how?
[13:36] <Cong> They aren't in there folders anymore. Also, I don't want to recover them. I want to set a bigger limit in case I do delete something I want to get back.
[13:36] <dr_willis> running nautilus as root would use roots trash. i belive.
[13:37] <dr_willis> cong i say check at  askubuntu.com then
[13:38] <dr_willis> ive seen the trash get to be 10+gb in size
[13:39] <dr_willis> also unmunting a fs may clean out the trash on that fs
[13:39] <Paddy_NI> I typically use "shift+delete" then cry later :-)
[13:39] <LorSamPau_w_> ))))
[13:40] <dr_willis> TheLordOfTime:  askubuntu is easier to use then the forums.
[13:41] <dr_willis> less clutter :)
[13:41] <TheLordOfTime> dr_willis:  kinda sent that in privmsg for a reason, as to not clutter *this* channel :P
[13:41] <TheLordOfTime> dr_willis:  because i've seen differing opinions :P
[13:41] <enyc> Paddy_NI: or just 'rm' command ;-)
[13:42] <pranavk> how to edit sudoers file without using sudo
[13:42] <dr_willis>  i use the askubuntu lens constantly in here.
[13:42] <Sokel> pranavk: It's impossible.;
[13:42] <pranavk> there is some error in my sudeors file
[13:42] <Sokel> pranavk: You have to have root access.
[13:42] <TheLordOfTime> pranavk:  you can't.  you need sudo to edit sudoers
[13:42] <dr_willis> pranavk: recoverymode or live cd   perhaps
[13:43] <pranavk> everytime i use sudo wid a command it tells me about error in sudoers fie
[13:43] <Cong> that's what I was thinking live cd
[13:43] <Sokel> pranavk: Get a live cd or a recovery disc and fix it.
[13:43] <dr_willis> recovery mode in grub menu is ok
[13:44] <esing> How do I change grub's background image? I tried it with "grub customizer" and by moving the background image file into /boot/grub . Neither worked. Suggestions?
[13:44] <serg123j> dfdf
[13:44] <esing>  etc/grub.d/05* does not help because that is a script without options to change
[13:44] <serg123j> hey guys, why epiphany non free?
[13:45] <dr_willis> esing: i edit the config in /etc/grub/  to use whatever file i want.
[13:45] <dr_willis> esing: it used to have a image setting or lines in there.
[13:46] <esing> dr_willis I read that config but it is build with if loops, like if it does not find that image it will use in the end the standard ubuntu desktop wallpaper. so I would not know where to insert the filepath for my wallpaper..
[13:46] <mathi> hi
[13:46] <Cong> serg123j, epiphany the web browser? why use that? firefox is better.
[13:46] <dr_willis> esing:  i change the code. or copy my image to wheres it is looking
[13:47] <mathi> I installed apache with the following command: "sudo apt-get install apache2". Now if I try to run httpd "sudo httpd start" it says: httpd: command not found
[13:47] <dr_willis> i normally set it to use /boot/wallpaper.png  in the past
 i would like free browser, full free
[13:48] <fidel> mathi: why do you think you have to run that last command?
[13:48] <TheLordOfTime> mathi:  try sudo service apache2 start
[13:48] <mathi> fidel, I thought that's how I start apache
[13:48] <fidel> nope ;)
[13:48] <Cong> Firefox is free. what kind of free are you talking about, serg123j? blag free?
[13:48] <fidel> the service is apache2 as TheLordOfTime mentioned already
[13:48] <mathi> TheLordOfTime, fidel, thank you
 Free like a Fully free distros
[13:49] <serg123j> all code on GPL or GLP like)
[13:49] <Cong> get blag it's totally free.
[13:49] <mathi> how can I see that the apache server on my linux machine is accessible ?
[13:49] <ldz420> Cong:  they might want to use WebkitGTK+ but also
[13:50] <fidel> mathi: how do you define accessible?
[13:50] <fidel> from where?
[13:50] <serg123j> blag is free, but know i on trisi and problem must be killed)
[13:50] <mathi> fidel, from my windows machine in another place (not localhost), I want to know if there is no problem because of firewall, NAT, ... to see if I can access the server
[13:50] <ztane> where can i get poedit 1.5 debs any idea :S
[13:50] <Eagleman7> Is there a Certification Authority management tool for the command line only?
[13:51] <ztane> does not even work when compiled from source, crashes before displaying the window
[13:51] <fidel> mathi: in case its a local network - just open the browser and enter the dns-name / ip of that apache-server
[13:51] <fidel> mathi: you should see a 'it works' text
[13:51] <Cong> serg123j get iceCat, it's more free.
[13:51] <fidel> mathi: if it should be accessible from outside your lan you have to do more work first
[13:51] <mathi> fidel, it's not local network, it's through the Internet, so I can put the internet IP of the machine ?
[13:52] <mathi> ah
 icecat have drop, but now i don't now)
[13:52] <fidel> mathi: ask yourself how a singla coming from the web and reacing your router should know that it should be formwarded to your apache server
[13:52] <serg123j> maybe maybe)
[13:53] <mathi> fidel, I think you mean I should do port forwarding in my router, is that right ?
[13:53] <fidel> mathi: port-forwarding is the keyword then - and re-think your security setup then
[13:53] <dshiner> #smarty
[13:53] <fidel> yep
[13:53] <FransWillem> Is there any way to have Ubuntu listen for a serial connection on a USB->Serial converter? I'd like to add a way to log into my headless machine if it's network interface is offline or something
[13:53] <mathi> fidel, but I need to forward the port 80 ?
[13:53] <mathi> TCP
[13:53] <fidel> mathi: yep - as long as your apache is working on that default port - and only using that one
[13:53] <Eagleman7> Is there a Certification Authority management tool for the command line only?
[13:53] <ztane> ofc not even quantal will have poedit 1.5 :SSSS
[13:54] <Rewt`> so I did an update yesterday, said I needed to reboot, did that on the way out of the office, come in this morning, and I'm stuck at 640x480. Nvidia.
[13:54] <mathi> fidel, I will try thanks!
[13:54] <TJ-> FransWillem: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto
[13:54] <esing> dr_willis  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202673/
[13:55] <serg123j> well thanks, i need go in F8king Moscow metropolitain)
[13:55] <Rewt`> tried the "additional drivers" route, says I need to reboot. I do, and nothing.
[13:55] <Rewt`> brb
[13:55] <esing> dr_willis Only information I have is that I have to put my image into boot/grub*/ but that does not work
[13:55] <esing> dr_willis What should I change in the file you named?
[13:56] <TJ-> Eagleman7: See the package "ca-certificates" - it contains several support executables
[13:56] <Eagleman7> Thanks
[13:56] <TJ-> Eagleman7: "man 8 update-ca-certificates" for starters
[13:56] <Eagleman7> Is there also a good site for learning certificates?
[13:56] <Eagleman7> I am a newb on that area
[13:57] <TJ-> Eagleman7: openssl is the primary package for all things certificatation-wise
[13:57] <designbybeck> Does Ubuntu have anything like Fedora's POSSE for educators?! http://opensource.com/education/12/9/posse-2012-report
[13:59] <Rewt`> ok, got resolution back. but using old driver. /shrug
[14:00] <dr_willis> esing:  im on my phone so cant look. i dont recall it being too hard. i think the ubuntu grub pages have info on it
[14:01] <esing> dr_willis alright I continue researching
[14:03] <ztane> haha so
[14:03] <ztane> funny, if I want to run poedit 1.5.3 on linux, I have to use windows version with wine :D
[14:04] <TJ-> esing: See the "GRUB 1.99 and later" section of  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Displays
[14:05] <agc93> hi all. i just started an rsync copy, but had to interrupt it. The source folder has now completely disappeared from the drive. What the hell is going on??
[14:06] <dr_willis> bbl
[14:06] <agc93> last time I trust the internet when it tells me that rsync is more reliable than cp
[14:07] <TJ-> agc93: What command line did you use?
[14:08] <pvivek> Is it possible to have a direct downloadable image(iso) of ubuntu and a set of softwares installed in it? If yes where do i get it from?
[14:08] <agc93> rsync -av /mnt/HDD/Data/Movies /srv/data
[14:08] <agc93> was the original command which got interrupted
[14:08] <anon235> helloo guys what is the difference between qt and gtk
[14:08] <agc93> Now the /mnt/HDD/Data/Movies folder is completely gone
[14:09] <extropy> anon235: I believe qt is kde and gtk is gnome
[14:10] <Cong> I thought it was kdesktop is kde
[14:10] <TJ-> agc93: My bet is, the mount is no longer there.  Live your life.
[14:11] <TJ-> agc93: Check the log files for system errors. (/var/log/kern.log, etc.)
[14:11] <extropy> I guess kdesktop is just the background of a kde desktop
[14:11] <anon235> i live my life on pc :D
[14:11] <agc93> Ok, gimme a sec and I'll check the lot
[14:11] <TJ-> anon235: Get used to the command line
[14:12] <tsimpson> extropy: kdesktop was the application that managed the desktop background, it doesn't exist any more
[14:12] <extropy> I see
[14:12] <anon235> is awesome window manager available in ubuntu repos
[14:12] <TJ-> agc93: Also, an fsck on the drive might be advisable
[14:12] <agc93> Good call TJ- there are buffer overflows all over the logs
[14:12] <extropy> replaced by "Plasma"
[14:12] <agc93> sorry, I/O errors not overflows
[14:13] <TJ-> agc93: first place to look when something 'strange' happens... it'll almost always save you grief!
[14:13] <BluesKaj_> dr_willis, , interesting , some active nicks that show up in the chat text here , aren't listed in the client nicklist, so the tab key doesn't auto complete
[14:13] <agc93> TJ-: Yeah, definitely. No idea why I didn't before. You think an fsck could recover it?
[14:14] <TJ-> agc93: has to *shrug* :) ... what file-system is it?
[14:14] <Cong> BluesKaj_, what client are you using?
[14:14] <agc93> NTFS, unfortunately.
[14:14] <BluesKaj_> Cong, konversation
[14:14] <agc93> It's my only non-Ext4 drive, and its the one that cracks the shits
[14:14] <TJ-> agc93: urggh... well best to do a "chkfdisk /f" on a Windows device
[14:14] <opticnerpe> Hello #ubuntu.  When I reboot my computer my video settings change on me.  I am using AMD Catalyst Control Center (CCC) to make my video changes.  When I hit Apply the changes stick and everything is good.  But when I reboot, I have to re-do the changes again.  After I make the changes in CCC I see it edits the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.  So now I am trying to determine what program at system startup is changing this file.  Greping for
[14:14] <opticnerpe> "xorg.conf" in /etc/init.d/  did not return any results. I want to know if anyone in #ubuntu has an idea of how I can solve this problem.
[14:14] <anon235> whne will ubuntu use btrfs as default filesystem ?
[14:15] <agc93> Yeah, I'll give that a shot, then run it through TestDisk and see what i comes up with...
[14:15] <Cong> BluesKaj_, whose missing from the list?
[14:15] <BluesKaj_> Cong, I don't think it's my client ..it might be whatever client said nick is using
[14:15] <TJ-> agc93: See if the logs reveal what kicked off the error? if it's an external USB device I'd bet on the USB port not being able to provide the power the drive needed when you made it get busy
[14:15] <Cong> BluesKaj_, who is missing from the list?
[14:16] <agc93> TJ-: Yeah, that would make sense, except for the massive-ass external psu I have to connect it to :/
[14:16] <TJ-> agc93: photorec should save you. But if it's an external drive ensure it's got independent power
[14:16] <TJ-> agc93: Ahhh... is it via a hub or a direct to a port on the PC?
[14:16] <BluesKaj_> Cong, esing
[14:16] <deke111> Hi - Does anyone know any disadvantages of installing ubuntu in Windows with wubi rather than on it's own partition? Is the performance the same? Thanks.
[14:16] <TJ-> agc93: I've seen *so many* flakey USB devices when you hit them with sustained work
[14:16] <agc93> Direct port. I would usually use a hub, but I thought better on a real port
[14:17] <ratcheer> opticnerpe: Have you tried running it under gksu?
[14:17] <Cong> BluesKaj_, no one can hide here on IRC unless they are on different which you are not. Only if the i flag is set and the server accepts them.
[14:17] <TJ-> agc93: sometimes even ports on a PC have differences. If it's a desktop it's not uncommon for the front ports to be worse than rear ports for USB high-speed devices that saturate the bus
[14:18] <opticnerpe> ratcheer, yes.
[14:18] <newguy> test. please ignore
[14:18] <TJ-> agc93: I've even seen it on laptops that overload a single controller with too many internal ports and the externals can break the camel's back, so to speak... so it's worth trying other ports
[14:18] <BluesKaj_> Cong, I was going to respond to aquestion he had earlier but when the autocomplete didn't work , i assumed he had left , However he was actually still here.
[14:18] <bustacap> Is there a way of listening to the microphone input in realtime on ubuntu?
[14:19] <Cong> he's on my list, BluesKaj_.
[14:19] <opticnerpe> Right now I am reading about the audit system that was introduced in Linux Kernel 2.6.  There is an audit daemon (auditd) which can be configured to monitor for certain things.  I am going to have it monitor /etc/X11/xorg.conf to see what is changing it when I reboot
[14:19] <bazhang> newguy, try #test
[14:20] <ratcheer> opticnerpe: Ok, I don't know then. Sometimes I can even successfully make persistent settings as my normal user. I don't understand why they keep sometimes but not others.
[14:20] <BluesKaj_> Cong, ok , which client ?
[14:20] <Cong> I think it's your IRC client.
[14:20] <opticnerpe> reading more about it right now... otherwise, if anyone else has an idea I'd be happy to hear it
[14:20] <hypershock> guys I have a huge problem that I can't seem to resolve. I have the nvidia 6150LE and proview lcd monitor. The ubuntu display setting will only let me choose 1024x768, the monitor can do 1280x1024 which it does when i boot to vista. I need a solution to this. Additionally, when ubuntu boots I don't see any screen until it gets to login screen. the boot splash doesn't show and I can't get to any pure text consoles because of the driver issue. Updating to
[14:20] <hypershock> one of the other drivers using proprietary does't change the problem. help. :)
[14:21] <Cong> BluesKaj_, restart your IRC client.
[14:22] <daem0n> anyone experience this error during ubuntu 12.04 install: unable to find a live filesystem on this medium ?
[14:22] <TJ-> hypershock: Unless you're on nvidia driver v3.04 (from -proposed) you have to use "Nvidia  X Server Settings" to configure the screens - the operating-system display settings can't do it since the older nvidia drivers don't support the Xrandr function.
[14:23] <BluesKaj_> Cong, which client are you on ?
[14:23] <gswain> weird I cant post to #ubuntu-arm
[14:23] <hypershock> tj how do i ensure the driver is 3.04
[14:24] <TJ-> hypershock: If you're using the nvidia proprietary driver, just use Dash to find and run "Nvidia X Server Settings"
[14:24] <Cong> XCHAT, BluesKaj.
[14:24] <BluesKaj_> I won't reboot konversation for the sake of one or two nicks that don't list ...I was merely curious about this , that's all
[14:24] <Cheezy> Hey guys, I am having alot of trouble with my webcam microphone on my laptop being reconginzed
[14:24] <hypershock> ok my driver version is 295.49
[14:24] <nathaneltitane> hello everybody
[14:24] <Pici> gswain: let me get that sorted out for you
[14:25] <nathaneltitane> i am configuring gdm and changing it's appearane and need to do so via dbus-launch. how can I capture and reuse the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS that is generated directly rather than copy-pasting it as input to automate the process
[14:26] <nathaneltitane> appearance*
[14:26] <phix> TJ-: you like unity?
[14:26] <TJ-> phix: I put up with it so I can get things done!
[14:26] <phix> I still feel that it is a backwards move but what do I know
[14:26] <hypershock> tj thank you very much, you saved me!
[14:27] <vector> I dislike unity
[14:27] <TJ-> hypershock: once v304 lands in the main repositories you'll be able to use the Display manager to do it... at last! Best thing nvidia have added to the driver in a long time - xrandr support!
[14:27] <Cong> BluesKaj_, don't you want to know why two nicknames won't appear in the list?
[14:27] <hypershock> tj how can i get v304 now?
[14:27] <bkc_> TJ-: x-swat ppa?
[14:28] <nathaneltitane> vector: i am working on a pure gnome transition script
[14:28] <TJ-> hypershock: Enable the -proposed repository in software sources
[14:28] <bkc_> hypershock: add this ppa https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[14:28] <bkc_> or add*
[14:29] <vector> i have 4 24" monitors... I hate flying the mouse all the way over the the left screen (screens 1 and 2 counted from the left are my secondary monitors really)
[14:29] <TJ-> hypershock: you don't need the PPA - it's in -proposed
[14:29] <vector> I'm sure there's probably a way to move the thing, but I get irritated quickly (in seconds) and didn't ever give it another chance
[14:30] <bkc_> TJ-: adding -proposed is a reeally bad idea... as it contains more than just the nvidia-driver...
[14:30] <TJ-> vector: Same here - I've always been a big multi-monitor user and these small-device accommodations are a backwards step for me
[14:30] <TJ-> bkc_: Well everything in -proposed is headed for -updates or -security anyhow - unlike the PPA :)
[14:30] <opticnerpe> Going to reboot and then auditd should tell me what changes my /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:30] <opticnerpe> The moment of truth is near
[14:30] <opticnerpe> brb
[14:31] <vector> now on my laptop I live with it because it's not that bad.. but after going multi-monitor 2 years ago I can't stand to use the laptop LOL
[14:31] <bkc_> TJ-: sure, but they might contain unnessecary bugs... as he only wants the newer nvidia-driver
[14:31] <hypershock> tj and bkc thanks again
[14:32] <hypershock> bkc_ naw I would've found and enabled that unchecked repository anyways, I was shocked to realize just now that I had not enabled it already.
[14:32] <BluesKaj_> Cong, it's just a curiosity , and I chalk it up some setting or other on his client or mine that's responsible , but I'm not going to spend any more time on this .
[14:32] <TJ-> bkc_: hypershock I'd stick with nvidia 295 for now anyhow - 304 has some tearing issues on some systems, and other glitches including a kernel-level fault that can lock the system up
[14:32] <hypershock> bkc_ but yeah you are right, for a newb or a workstation for a business user you would want to enable proposed.
[14:32] <bkc_> TJ-: never had any tearing on my computer running 304 w/ 2 monitors...
[14:33] <TJ-> bkc_: Like I said, it's on some systems
[14:33] <bkc_> hypershock: wouldn't wanna*
[14:33] <hypershock> bkc_ yeah, thanks for catching that
[14:33] <Cheezy> Hey guys, I am having alot of trouble with my webcam microphone on my laptop being reconginzed
[14:37] <esing2> Is there a way to google through my unity dash?
[14:40] <mathi> fidel, do you know if I should specify TCP or UDP ?
[14:42] <nathaneltitane> i am configuring gdm and changing it's appearane and need to do so via dbus-launch. how can I capture and reuse the DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS that is generated directly rather than copy-pasting it as input to automate the process
[14:43] <bustacap> If I did the command "aplay | arecord" to hear my mic through my speakers, how do I stop it o.O?
[14:44] <BluesKaj_> bustacap, disconnect the mic ?
[14:45] <bustacap> BluesKaj_, I'm trying another way of getting mic through the speakers but I have to stop this one first :/
[14:45] <TJ-> nathaneltitane: see "man 1 dbus-launch" it has an example script showing how to do that
[14:46] <BluesKaj_> bustacap, aplay | arecord stop ?
[14:47] <TJ-> bustacap: In pulseaudio, use module-loopback to monitor inputs
[14:48] <TJ-> bustacap: see http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Modules#module-loopback
[14:49] <nathaneltitane> TJ: thanks
[14:51] <ctrlfreqs> I miss Gnome
[14:52] <Cong> but you don't want it back right?
[14:52] <BluesKaj_> bustacap,  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/aplay.1.html
[14:52] <ctrlfreqs> No, it's time to move on. I always try to not get stuck to the way something works
[14:53] <ctrlfreqs> Change happens
[14:53] <bkc_> ctrlfreqs: but seriously... unity... -.-
[14:53] <Cong> two bars, one on top, one on bottom, stuff in the corners, menu top left corner, icons next to that
[14:53] <bkc_> to much bling...
[14:54] <ctrlfreqs> Yeah
[14:54] <ctrlfreqs> I agree
[14:54] <bkc_> and that's why I moved on to arch...
[14:56] <Bundgaard> Heya peeps! I'm having trouble getting my jack-speakers working, they're playing at rediculously low volume
[14:57] <Bundgaard> I've tried googleing arounf for an hour without any luck, anyone here got a shot?
[14:57] <bkc_> Bundgaard: tried raising the volume? :P
[14:57] <Bundgaard> yes :P
[14:57] <yougg> ...or changing the cable
[14:57] <Bundgaard> to a point where touching the jack makes my ears bleed
[14:57] <Bundgaard> cable isn't faulty, works on windows
[14:58] <Calinou> bkc_, arch sucks. :P
[14:58] <Calinou> tried installing it, *it is not worth it*
[14:58] <Bundgaard> even plays louder connected to my phone
[14:59] <Calinou> check ubuntu's sound settings
[14:59] <Calinou> you never said you looked at the sound settings
[14:59] <bkc_> Calinou: and why is that? :)
[15:00] <Bundgaard> true, but I did :)
[15:00] <Calinou> way too hard to install
[15:00] <Calinou> buggy
[15:00] <Bundgaard> says I'm playing through headphones, and at 100%
[15:00] <bkc_> Calinou: nothing wrong with bootstraping and chrooting ^^
[15:00] <Bundgaard> though I'm not sure what that means I guess not? :P
[15:00] <bkc_> Bundgaard: try hooking them up to the lineout...
[15:01] <Bundgaard> ...
[15:01] <Bundgaard> clever
[15:01] <bkc_> Bundgaard: I'm assuming it's an external amplifier anyway?
[15:01] <bkc_> and not head-phones...
[15:01] <bkc_> s/-//
[15:02] <billc> just installed logitech g930 listenin now
[15:02] <Calinou> bkc_, it's still hard :P
[15:02] <bkc_> Calinou: not really :)
[15:02] <GunArm1> i'm trying to set up smtp on my server and I cant grasp the concept of /etc/ssmtp/revaliases, is it supposed to be like root:newaccount@gmail.com:smtp.gmail.com?
[15:02] <mehrdad> how to check to install graphic card?
[15:02] <Calinou> and unstable
[15:02] <bkc_> I prefer the commandline so..
[15:02] <Calinou> mehrdad, elaborate please? what do you want to do?
[15:02] <Calinou> the default drivers provided are fine if you don't want to play games
[15:02] <Calinou> the proprietary/non-free drivers are available in the settings
[15:02] <GunArm1> it doesnt seem to matter what i put in the middle email address part
[15:03] <Calinou> if available
[15:03] <bkc_> mehrdad: what vendor?
[15:03] <bkc_> !nvidia > mehrdad
[15:03] <bkc_> !amd | mehrdad
[15:03] <bkc_> !ati | mehrdad
[15:03]  * Calinou slaps ubottu for not having "amd"
[15:03] <mehrdad> bkc_:intel
[15:04] <bkc_> crappy outdated bot -.-
[15:04] <bkc_> !intel | mehrdad
[15:04] <bkc_> !gma | mehrdad
[15:04] <joelio> Grr, whoever is the maintaner for flashplugin-installer needs to understand that there are people that work behind proxies.. AT LEAST HONOUR THE BLOODY ENVIRONMENT VARIABLE FOR HTTP_PROXY!!!
[15:04] <bkc_> !mesa | mehrdad
[15:04] <mehrdad> bkc_: intel
[15:04] <tsimpson> !botabuse > bkc_
[15:04] <bkc_> I seriously hate that bot...
[15:04] <GunArm1> lolol
[15:04] <GunArm1> he lovvees you
[15:05] <bkc_> GunArm1: not really...
[15:05] <bkc_> mehrdad: what model?
[15:06] <joelio> Good to see this bug has been taken seriosuly for the past 3+ years - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/362970
[15:06] <joelio> grrr
[15:06] <Calinou> joelio, wait, people use proxies?
[15:06] <Calinou> don't yelol
[15:06] <Calinou> yell*
[15:06] <Calinou> also, isn't that thing non-free?
[15:06] <mehrdad> bkc_: i think 4500 s
[15:06]  * Calinou pokes adobe CEO
[15:06] <mehrdad> bkc_: i think 4500 series
[15:06] <giulio> ciao
[15:06] <bkc_> mehrdad: so, a Core i3/5/7 then...
[15:07] <mehrdad> bkc_: old model
[15:07] <joelio> Calinou: yea, there's a standard http_proxy env var that is just ignored in the debian package that downloads the tarball
[15:07] <mehrdad> bkc_: dual core
[15:07] <joelio> so breaks on all our machines
[15:07] <bkc_> mehrdad: then just use the provided mesa-driver... already installed and active
[15:08] <bkc_> joelio: install from source then?
[15:08] <mehrdad> bkc_: how to check to install or not?
[15:08] <Bisu[Shield]> HELP: how do I change font color in a windows that is not in focus?Eclipse have white text on white background when I select a different panel.
[15:08] <bkc_> mehrdad: it is already installed...
[15:08] <bkc_> lsmod | grep intel
[15:09] <mehrdad> bkc_: no manual
[15:09] <joelio> bkc_: or just fix the debian package
[15:09] <bkc_> mehrdad: there's no manual install for the mesa-driver... it's *pre-installed*
[15:09] <newlinuxuser> hellooo community am having a problem my resolv.conf empties after reboot
[15:09] <mehrdad> bkc_: no i not to be installed.
[15:10] <bkc_> mehrdad: how do you mean... if it's not installed you've done something extremely wrong...
[15:10] <fidel> newlinuxuser: resolv.conf in 12.04 should contain an info-text about thechange ...aint it?
[15:10] <bkc_> like removed the xserver...
[15:11] <newlinuxuser> idk am new
[15:11] <newlinuxuser> i could not browse someone said ur resolv conf isempty
[15:11] <bkc_> newlinuxuser: resolv.conf is generated on network-change, don't change it
[15:12] <newlinuxuser> but i like opendns
[15:12] <bkc_> open /etc/resolv.conf and add "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" without the quotes
[15:12] <bkc_> or whatever dns-server you wanna use...
[15:12] <newlinuxuser> yaa i did but after reboot empty resolv.conf have to change it again
[15:13] <dr_willis> use the network manager.. not editing resolv.conf
[15:13] <xangua> bkc_: you can set the dns in the gnome network manager
[15:13] <newlinuxuser> did both
[15:13] <newlinuxuser> did change via nm after reboot empty resolv.conf cannot browse edit resolv agian i need permanent solution
[15:14] <newlinuxuser> how to fix this peranently
[15:14] <bkc_> newlinuxuser: of course it gets erased on reboot... it's auto-generated by network-manager...
[15:14] <dr_willis> pastebin your current resolv.conf
[15:14] <bkc_> newlinuxuser: try setting it up in network-manager
[15:15] <newlinuxuser> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:15] <GreenHide> newlinuxuser, I have 2 seperate connections(both to the same isp) in nm and each has a different DNS
[15:15] <fidel> newlinuxuser: /etc/resolv.conf contains a comment about the chance. consider reading the comments in conf- files in  general - as they are supposed to help us users. at that point you have afaik several ways to handle that. you could either use network-manager - or define a nameserver in your interfaces file ...or even go the really ugly way and try to prevent the rewriting of /etc/resolv.conf ...which sounds likethe badest idea of all three. maybe anyone ...
[15:15] <hansz> Hey. When I am running a python script I have written, it uses only one cpu. I do not know how to program multi-threaded programs. Is there any other way to let a few processors work together on my script, to acclerate running times? Tried taskset(1), but couldn't make it work.
[15:15] <fidel> ... else has option 4?
[15:15] <bkc_> newlinuxuser: that should work...
[15:16] <xangua> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/setup-static-dns-servers-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ if you hardly wanna 'edit conf files' instead of use the gnome network manager; just remember use gksu with gedit or an graphic app newlinuxuser
[15:16] <bkc_> xangua: or use the terminal
[15:17] <GreenHide> newlinuxuser, is that what your trying to acheive?
[15:17] <newlinuxuser> yaa
[15:17] <tsimpson> hansz: your script needs to be written to use multiple threads, it's not auto-magic
[15:18] <newlinuxuser> i mean i try to change the dns via network manager but after reboot empty resolv.conf no browse what to do
[15:18] <alecb> just got a new t430 and I'm having trouble connecting to public wifi networks (which work fine in windows), although I can connect to my own personal wifi. any ideas?
[15:18] <aristidesfl> hi
[15:18] <GreenHide> newlinuxuser, so in nm tell it to only take IP address from connection1 (for example)
[15:18] <hansz> tsimpson: I see... thanks!
[15:19] <CarlFK> hansz: you should probably watch  http://pyvideo.org/video/353/pycon-2010--understanding-the-python-gil---82
[15:19] <newlinuxuser> i have change it in ipv4
[15:19] <aristidesfl> I've installed dropbox via cmd line, and linked the computer, but the status on the computer keeps saying: Waiting to be linked to an account...
[15:19] <aristidesfl> 12.04
[15:19] <aristidesfl> 64bit
[15:20] <newlinuxuser> Honeymoon couple "begged for their lives"
[15:20] <bkc_> aristidesfl: the cli-linking is broken, you need to use the graphical interface to link the computer...
[15:20] <aristidesfl> bkc_ I don't have a graphical interface
[15:21] <newlinuxuser> ok am rebooting let me see did the sol i try work or not
[15:21] <GreenHide> newlinuxuser, in IPv4  choose     (automatic ppp address only)  and stick in your desired DNS below that
[15:21] <kid_icarus> so my new job wants to buy me a new laptop and I was wondering if anyone had suggetstions?
[15:21] <kid_icarus> everyone there is on apple, and I don't want a macbook pro
[15:21] <aristidesfl> macbook air
[15:22] <kid_icarus> do apple products work well with ubuntu?
[15:22] <dr_willis> #hardware
[15:22] <bkc_> aristidesfl: well, never got that to work, the cli-linking gives you a link that you should open to link the computer, but the link never works...
[15:22] <aristidesfl> bkc_ the link is working
[15:22] <deadmund> kid_icarus: actually yes.  Because the apple products are common and not fractured into a billion types like 'windows laptops'
[15:22] <bkc_> aristidesfl: apparently not ;)
[15:22] <aristidesfl> on dropbox.com the computer appears as linked
[15:22] <dr_willis> kid_icarus:  you can get ubuntu preinstalled laptops
[15:22] <bkc_> aristidesfl: still need to setup the default-path and so on...
[15:23] <MSU> kid_icarus: I've personally never had any problems getting ubuntu to work on my apple products
[15:23] <MSU> kid_icarus: I will say getting a triple booting system was a headache right up until I gave up on it.
[15:23] <GreenHide> can anyone tell me how to save a prerecorded ustream movie in Ubuntu
[15:23] <dr_willis> i see a lot of apple questions in herr.. but it could just be user issues. ')
[15:23] <kid_icarus> ok, well that's good to know :)
[15:24] <kid_icarus> I always just kind of assumed that they wouldn't play nice
[15:24] <MSU> kid_icarus: You trying to install it on a computer you already have or something?
[15:25] <kid_icarus> MSU: No, my new job is asking me what kind of laptop I'd like
[15:25] <kid_icarus> MSU: They're all mac people, but said I could get anything I'd liek
[15:25] <tarwich1> kid_icarus: I'm late in the game. Are you planning on using bootcamp? I'm running a few Mac-based bootcamped ubuntu installs
[15:25] <dr_willis> system76 ultrabook  :)
[15:26] <kid_icarus> I do web development, so having lots of ram and a decently sized ssd are important to me
[15:27] <aristidesfl> kid_icarus get a macbook air 13 with 8gb of ram and 256SSD
[15:27] <MSU> kid_icarus: Nifty, I'd do a quick google search and check for any rampant issues with the model you're planning on getting, but by and large it works pretty well. OSX isn't so bad either for dual-booting, you can get Windows on there also, it'll prbly be easier for you with a fresh computer too.
[15:27] <aristidesfl> or 512GB, since they are paying
[15:27] <mattt_> Anyone having issues with dpkg hanging on man-db?
[15:28] <aristidesfl> kid_icarus +1 thunderbolt 27' display
[15:28] <vkas> hi
[15:29] <dr_willis> hellos
[15:29] <tarwich1> The macs I run at my office hold ubuntu well, but the Ubuntu installer has a habit of wiping out the Mac MBR. Also it's a pain to get the hardware mapped, but I've done it. This will help a ton: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[15:30] <vkas> can somebody help me with turning off the automounting of ntfs partitions
[15:30] <esing> What is Grub's font by standard?
[15:30] <sgt-hagger> Hey guys, I was here before after losing access to Windows after installing. Some people said it'd be easier to revert ubuntu to whatever system windows was using (mbr, and/or bios-emulation with the mobo). rather than the other way around
[15:30] <vkas> here is fstab file http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202838/
[15:30] <sgt-hagger> any idea how I might do this?
[15:31] <GreenHide> vkas, which one do you want to stop auto mounting?
[15:31] <vkas> all
[15:34] <alecb> bump? anyone have any ideas on the t430 wifi problems?
[15:34] <kid_icarus> thanks for the advice everyone! much appreciated :)
[15:35] <GreenHide> vkas, here you go!     http://paste.ubuntu.com/1202852/
[15:35] <manisabri> I use 12.04 64 to run a xp guest on vmware , the problem is the xp only boots one time ,the next times it stops in the microsoft flag screen, any ideas?
[15:36] <vkas> GreenHide: Ah, thanks!
[15:36] <GreenHide> vkas, np
[15:36] <nannes> !ping
[15:38] <GreenHide> can anyone suggest a program that will allow me to save swf files from ustream (not live streams) in Ubuntu
[15:40] <SimonPHOENIX> hello
[15:41] <SimonPHOENIX> i need help to connect HuaWei e398
[15:41] <vkas> GreenHide: um, I have a question... all of the entries in fstab file were mounted during startup, so if i put a # in the beginning of a line and comment it out, it would not be mounted. Right?
[15:42] <joelio> vkas: yes, it won't be mounted if it's hashed out
[15:42] <kid_icarus> system76 gazelle professional with 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD.... I'll take it!
[15:43] <GreenHide> vkas, yes   (did you do a reboot?)
[15:44] <sapharoth> SimonPHOENIX, whats your problem?
[15:44] <vkas> GreenHide: ok, no i trust your advice :) so there is no need to reboot now
[15:45] <SimonPHOENIX> sapharoth, i can not connect the modem
[15:45] <SimonPHOENIX> ubuntu can not see the modem
[15:45] <sapharoth> have you tried the nm-connection-editor command
[15:46] <GreenHide> vkas, ok   the ntfs partitions (or the USB drives  which is what the fstab entrys suggests) will not be mounted at the next reboot
[15:46] <vkas> GreenHide: I believe
[15:48] <Mr_Kaizer> Good afternoon, I'm having some trouble getting java working in Chromium on my Xubuntu 12.04 netbook.
[15:48] <sapharoth> SimonPHOENIX, the nm-connection-editor command opens the Network-Manager. use it to add your device to the Network. I think that'll work
[15:49] <sapharoth> Mr_Kaizer, are you experiencing missing built-ins??
[15:49] <vkas> thanks for the help everyone; leaving
[15:49] <Mr_Kaizer> sapharoth: I am experiencing the java plugin missing altogether.
[15:52] <nvictor> hey guys
[15:53] <Mr_Kaizer> I just spent over an hour getting Sun Java installed (OpenJDK doesn't work with my bank's e-banking service). It's installed on the computer, but not as a plugin in chromium. I have tried making a...symbolic link I think it's called (?), but that didn't work. So now I'm out of ideas.
[15:54] <Bennn> I'm using kubuntu 11.10. I just did some updates to Muon, it said 'package broken' or something similar, now update manager, software manager, and package manager are gone.
[15:54] <Mr_Kaizer> Bennn: Completely gone as in you can't find them, or gone as in broken?
[15:55] <Bennn> Mr_Kaizer. As in, I can't find them. They're not in the menu anymore. I tried reaching Muon though the Alt+f2 box.
[15:57] <Bennn> I'm not sure how to role back the update.
[15:57] <nathaneltitane> TJ i've tried the sample script but it still does not produce the desired effect when bundled to the gsettings commands i am trying to run
[15:57] <tykim> i just installed ubuntu it works really well and it's easy for what i have to do
[15:57] <tykim> but the only problem is that internet is slow
[15:58] <Bennn> ps -e | grep muon shows nothing
[15:58] <tykim> im sure my internet is really fast
[15:58] <tykim> how can i fix it?
[15:59] <cristian_c> Hi
[16:00] <Bennn> Mr_Kaizer. As in, I can't find them. They're not in the menu anymore. I tried reaching Muon though the Alt+f2 box.
[16:01] <Mr_Kaizer> Bennn: And you can't start them via the terminal, right?
[16:01] <cristian_c> I've installed easy-deb with virtualenv, but when I try to check (with yolk -l command) the applications installed in the virtual environment, there is not easydeb. Instead, there are some applications installed outside the virtual environment, not inside. Why?
[16:02] <Bennn> Mr_Kaizer: I tried though the Alt-f2 box. How do you start them from terminal?
[16:02] <bkc_> cristian_c: and this is related to ubuntu how? :)
[16:03] <csdva> anonymous
[16:03] <bkc_> !anon
[16:03] <cristian_c> I've read that the problem could be due to a yolkc package not installed in the virtual environment. I've installed it inside the virtual environment, but nothing is changed :(
[16:03] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[16:03] <bkc_> blaah... I hate this bot >.<
[16:04] <tking> hi
[16:04] <cristian_c> bkc_, virtualenv is an ubuntu package
[16:04] <tking> guys, i noticed if i set 10mins lock my laptop doesn't lock after 10mins sometimes
[16:04] <bud> quit
[16:05] <bkc_> tking: standard... something one learns to live with ^^
[16:05] <alecb> bump, any ideas for the t430 wifi problems?
[16:06] <cristian_c> bkc_, do you have any ideas to solve the problem?
[16:06] <{KE}Cron> testing
[16:06] <Pici> cristian_c: perhaps #python would be a more appropriate place to ask.
[16:06] <cristian_c> Pici, ok
[16:06] <cristian_c> :)
[16:07] <bkc_> alecb: what driver is it?
[16:07] <bkc_> model
[16:08] <bkc_> alecb: also, what isn't working?
[16:08] <alecb> bkc_: my lspci output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1200740/
[16:09] <Hung> Hi Everyone
[16:09] <alecb> bkc_: can't connect to public networks (which work fine in windows, which I'm on now), although I can use mine and a friend's personal wifi
[16:09] <Hung> I am newbie
[16:09] <bkc_> alecb: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkPad_11b/g/n_Wireless_LAN_Mini-PCI_Express_Adapter_II
[16:09] <Hung> is this room for question relating for Ubuntu ?
[16:10] <bkc_> Hung: yes
[16:10] <nicola> ciao
[16:10] <Hung> hi BKC
[16:10] <bkc_> " Official Ubuntu Support Channel"
[16:10] <bkc_> o/
[16:10] <Hung> BKC, I have a question
[16:11] <bkc_> shoot
[16:11] <tziemann> hello
[16:11] <angeyeux> hi everyone,,im newbie in linux..now im trying bodhi linux..would you help give me some basic tutorial?
[16:11] <lolek> question, i'm trying to make connection to the phone through bluetooth, but i've got some problems. Well i can create connection, i can send files to the phone, and that's all :/ i can't make the connection active so i cannot use gnome-phone-manager... which gave: CAn't connect connection refused... any idea? i'm using ubuntu 11.10
[16:12] <Hung> My terminal's font window text is a bit too big, how can i make it smaller ?
[16:12] <lolek> Hung: edit -> profiles, select profile, click "edit"
[16:13] <Hung> thank you lolek
[16:13] <lolek> Hung: no problem 5 EUR :>
[16:13] <smftre> Ubuntu seems to be losing market share, can this be try? http://sharer.co/share/78474882
[16:14] <martian> I just installed nautilus in xubuntu 12.04 and wish to change some advanced settings. I installed gconf-editor, but there is no nautilus node in there. Any suggestions?
[16:14] <lolek> smftre: isn't mint based on ubuntu ?
[16:14] <bkc_> smftre: I'd say "Unity did it!" ^^
[16:14] <martian> ^^
[16:14] <smftre> @lolek, I think more debian as ubuntu is?
[16:14] <bkc_> lolek: yes, but with gnome-shell instead of unity...
[16:14] <bkc_> smftre: nope... ubuntu-deriv...
[16:14] <lolek> hmm
[16:15] <lolek> mint is with gnome-shell ?
[16:15] <auronandace> !ot
[16:15] <lolek> o.O
[16:15] <lolek> auronandace: if You didn't notice, we're speaking about ubuntu market share... and we want to figure out why it's losing market... so i don't see any ot here...
[16:16] <bazhang> lolek, wrong place for it
[16:16] <Pici> auronandace: This isn't a discussion channel. Its a support channel.
[16:16] <bkc_> lolek: still not related to *support* ^^
[16:16] <auronandace> lolek: if you didn't notice this is the support channel
[16:16] <Pici> auronandace: ... mistab, I know you knew that.
[16:16] <bazhang> smftre, please dont post here
[16:16] <smftre> np, I will discuss offtopic then?
[16:17] <lolek> auronandace: ok then i can't shrink sripting shell window from mysql-workbench the prblem occurs only in gnome-shell no problem with unity, on ubuntu 12.04/amd64 ... any idea?
[16:17] <lolek> s/sripting/scripting
[16:18] <alecb> bkc_: okay, so the latest ubuntu has a 3.0+ kernel and would have the rtlwifi/rtl8192se driver? so I should try the linux driver from realtek or ndiswrapper?
[16:18] <auronandace> lolek: i've never used gnome-shell so i can't help you
[16:19] <lolek> auronandace: ok, so maybe this one: question, i'm trying to make connection to the phone through bluetooth, but i've got some problems. Well i can create connection, i can send files to the phone, and that's all :/ i can't make the connection active so i cannot use gnome-phone-manager... which gave: CAn't connect connection refused... any idea? i'm using ubuntu 11.10
[16:20] <auronandace> lolek: what do you mean by make the connection active?
[16:20] <bkc_> alecb: linux-driver from realtek... *never* use ndiswrapper -.-
[16:20] <auronandace> lolek: pairing the device?
[16:20] <lolek> auronandace: give me several minutes ... got dinner know. be back soon
[16:21] <alecb> bkc_: alright, I'll see if that helps
[16:21] <Punisher> hi, i have some problems with ubuntu 12.10 on my tablet. it is an dell latitude st with an intel atom z670 and intel gma 600. ubuntu 12.04 works. all kernels below 3.3 are booting. but the new one are going black short after grub
[16:21] <auronandace> !12.10 | Punisher
[16:23] <Bennn> I did some updates to Muon, now it's broken. Update manager, software manager, and package manager are all gone under the System menu. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling from the terminal. Here's what is says: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12236603#post12236603
[16:23] <Punisher> hm ok but testing beta ob different hardware is important. try to find bugs before the final relase ?
[16:24] <Punisher> but thanks i try it in #ubuntu+1
[16:28] <Apra_> hi
[16:29] <lolek> auronandace: ok
[16:31] <lolek> auronandace: go to bluetooth settings, pick one device from the list on the left, then on the right window, change the switch to "1"... now the device is... active/connected... can't say what is the state, cause i don't have any problems with sending files from lappie to phone i also doesn't have any problems streaming music through bt gateway
[16:31] <chisholm> What's a good application to use to build a debian package?
[16:35] <oldwzd> chrisward: get the sources and compile it? or even chekc if there is an .ebuild around?
[16:36] <oldwzd> chrisward: bad nickcomplete
[16:36] <oldwzd> chisholm: se 2 lines up..
[16:37] <oldwzd> ghah think you should ignore me, as im in wrong channel speaking xD
[16:37] <chisholm> oldwzd: I'm trying to put together a debian package for a cmake project I'm working on
[16:38] <tsimpson> !packaging | chisholm
[16:38] <tsimpson> there are some guides etc in those links
[16:39] <in_> hey
[16:39] <in_> hi
[16:40] <chisholm> tsimpson, oldwzd: I'm not looking to become an expert debian package maintainer, just looking to slap something together that will check for dependancies and place the header files in /usr/include and the lib in /usr/lib.
[16:40] <in_> I need to connect to a broadband via terminal command
[16:40] <in_> any help would be appreciated
[16:40] <tsimpson> chisholm: then you need to start with the basics of packaging
[16:41] <chisholm> tsimpson: ok, thanks
[16:41] <tsimpson> chisholm: if the project already has a build system, then look at the checkinstall package, but that's strictly for locally built stuff
[16:45] <chisholm> tsimpson: checkinstall isn't quite what I'm looking for but looks like something that's nice to know about.
[16:52] <nvictor> hey guys, is there a way to find a specific boot sequence that got stuck?
[16:54] <bkc_> nvictor: bootchart?
[16:54] <bkc_> systemd?
[16:54] <bkc_> lots of ways to check that
[16:54] <dragonslay> bkc_: would the log files work?
[16:54] <nvictor> ah ok, let me have a look at them
[16:54] <bkc_> sure...
[16:55] <nvictor> dragonslay, the logs
[16:55] <nvictor> that's where i check, but couldn't find the one i am looking for
[16:55] <bkc_> dmesg.log and kernel.log
[16:55] <nvictor> i wonder if they get deleted?
[16:55] <bkc_> they get rotated every now and then
[16:55] <bkc_> and deleted when piss-old...
[16:55] <nvictor> it's pretty recent
[16:56] <bkc_> very old*
[16:56] <nvictor> here's the issue
[16:56] <GunArm1> do you have to reboot or do some command to make crontab -e changes take effect?
[16:56] <nvictor> a reboot happened on a server instance like 2 or 3 days ago
[16:56] <bkc_> server? then I'd guess your logs have been rotated a couple of times already ^^
[16:57] <dragonslay> GunArm1: if you've edited the crontab correctly, it'll be saved in main crontab file
[16:57] <R_Macy> Hey guys how do you get the browser information out of this '08:26:52.737609 IP <IP_ADDRESS>.80 > <IP_ADDRESS>.1338: Flags [.], seq 2159:3579, ack 3363, win 65535, length 1420'
[16:57] <R_Macy> Im doing a CTF
[16:57] <jrib> GunArm1: no, you shouldn't have to do anything other than save the file
[16:57] <bekks> R_Macy: Whats a "CTF"?
[16:57] <GunArm1> ok thanks
[16:57] <bkc_> R_Macy: related to ubuntu how?
[16:57] <bkc_> bekks: "Capture The Flag!" :D
[16:58] <bekks> bkc_: :D
[16:58] <tsimpson> R_Macy: you don't, that's the TCP header, the User-Agent header is in the message itself
[16:58] <nvictor> bkc_: the instance got stuck because of a XFS volume and entered user input mode. i am trying to see exactly what happened and how we can prevent it from happening. i already removed the mount point from fstab (that fixed the booting issue)
[16:58] <grimeton> hi
[16:58] <grimeton> where does nss_ldap expect to find it's configuration file? /etc/ldap.conf?
[16:59]  * NoFace hi ppl.!.
[17:00] <R_Macy> tsimpson: it's a pcap file
[17:00] <Bennn> I did some updates to Muon, now it's broken. Update manager, software manager, and package manager are all gone under the System menu. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling from the terminal. Here's what is says: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12236603#post12236603
[17:00] <R_Macy> CTF is capture the flag
[17:00] <bekks> R_Macy: How is that related to Ubuntu at all?
[17:01] <R_Macy> bekks tcpdump is a linux command, ubuntu is linux, and this channel is generally knowledgable
[17:01] <bkc_> nvictor: there are a few fstab-flags and mkinitcpio-flags you can play around with that should fix that issue... thou not sure what actually to change :(
[17:01] <bekks> R_Macy: This is a Ubuntu support channel.
[17:02] <bkc_> nvictor: did it a couple of years ago on debian :)
[17:02] <R_Macy> bekks I need support figuring out how to get the browser used form a pcap file
[17:02] <dragonslay> bkc_: can i specifically sort out security updates in apt-get?
[17:02] <bkc_> R_Macy: goto #linux and ask
[17:02] <bkc_> dragonslay: sure...
[17:03] <Kishi> Hello
[17:03] <kaczor> Hi
[17:03] <nvictor> bkc_, oh you had that issue before? as i kinda expected i can find the exact lines in the logs :/
[17:03] <bkc_> dragonslay: apt-get update,  apt-get upgrade *cancel*, read list, sudo apt-get install <packages>
[17:03] <Kishi> I am having some problems with running Skype on Kubuntu. It worked earlier, but stopped working after trying to synchronize it with Kopete, I thinkn
[17:03] <nvictor> bkc_, i didn't expect press S to continue being logged...
[17:03] <Kishi> I've purged and reinstalled it several times now
[17:03] <Kishi> Even purged Kopete, too
[17:03] <nvictor> bkc_, only thing i remember...
[17:03] <Kishi> It still doesn't seem to work
[17:04] <Kishi> It appears that purging does leave some software settings on my system
[17:04] <bkc_> nvictor: Not with XFS, but NFS :) and that is the beutty of linux ;)
[17:04] <Kishi> I thought it was supposed to remove everything
[17:04] <bekks> Kishi: configurations in ~/whatever arent affected by purging software.
[17:04] <nvictor> bkc_: haha i hear you :)
[17:05] <nvictor> bkc_: ok found the exact lines online "continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[17:05] <S0LIDUS> How can I check the speed of my network interface from the terminal? e.g 1Gbe... Thanks in advance!
[17:05] <dragonslay> bkc_: what's the *cancel* do in the command?
[17:05] <bekks> S0LIDUS: ethtool eth0
[17:05] <Kishi> bekks: Then I'd be grateful to learn how to  remove the configurations as well.
[17:05] <S0LIDUS> bekks, Thanks :)
[17:05] <nvictor> oh there's a XFS channel :)
[17:05] <bekks> dragonslay: ctlr+c
[17:05] <Kishi> Because as I said, it worked earlier, before I tried to sync it with Kopete
[17:06] <bekks> Kishi: By deleting them in your file browser, e.g.
[17:06] <S0LIDUS> bekks, what about a wireless interface e.g wlan0
[17:06] <dragonslay> bekks: and "read list" only is supposed to read from stdin.. ?
[17:07] <bekks> S0LIDUS: ethtool wlan0 ... and on wifi, you'll never have 1GbE :)
[17:07] <S0LIDUS> I know, just wanted to get speed info, thanks though :)
[17:07] <bekks> dragonslay: "read list" is supposed to read the list that is displayed on your screen.
[17:07] <Kishi> bekks: I've tried locating skype-related stuff in my console, but everything's gone. Well, there is some stuff in akonadi  and something in /usr/share/mime/inode
[17:07] <S0LIDUS> bekks, It says no data available?
[17:08] <Kishi> But I think It was there before
[17:08] <bekks> S0LIDUS: Then you cant use ethtool on wifi interfaces. Use iwconfig instead.
[17:08] <nvictor> ah great
[17:08] <dragonslay> bekks: i don't get how that command only installs security updates
[17:09] <S0LIDUS> bekks, Awesome thanks mate...
[17:09] <bekks> dragonslay: It involves reading the list and understanding which packages are going to be updated.
[17:11] <dragonslay> bekks: why is google-chrome still in the update list?
[17:12] <bekks> dragonslay: Because either you still have it installed or it is pulled in by some other software you still have installed.
[17:13] <dragonslay> bekks: i'm only trying to update the security patches..
[17:15] <Kishi> That's it, I've removed everything
[17:15] <Kishi> And it still won't work
[17:16] <Kishi> At least everything I was able to find
[17:16] <PrAsHaNt> http://pastebin.com/sbDReR3t
[17:16] <PrAsHaNt> can anybody please help me with this?
[17:17] <rapstudio> what are the software to run a 'c' program on ubuntu
[17:18] <theadmin> rapstudio: gcc is the most popular C compiler.
[17:18] <bekks> rapstudio: You need to compile your c sourcecode first.
[17:18] <deadmund> rapstudio: c programs are compiled to native code.  You just run it.
[17:18] <unperson> I want to upgrade from 10.04.4 LTS to 12.04.1 LTS.  Can I do this easily using a 12.04.1 alternate CD or is that likely to be problematic (and I'd be better off just doing the upgrade over the network)?
[17:18] <bekks> unperson: You dont need a cd at all.-
[17:19] <Kishi> I'd gladly find another VoIP[ communicator, preferably a free one, but nobody uses anything else, so... -_-
[17:19] <deadmund> unperson: do you have a separate /home partition?
[17:19] <PrAsHaNt> how to uninstall all the graphics driver ?
[17:19] <nvictor> it is strange though
[17:19] <unperson> deadmund, Yes, why?
[17:19] <nvictor> the boot issue happened recently and i can't find it in any log
[17:19] <Bennn> I did some updates to Muon, now it's broken. Update manager, software manager, and package manager are all gone under the System menu. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling from the terminal. Here's what is says: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12236603#post12236603
[17:19] <deadmund> unperson: makes using the CD to upgrade possible (without erasing you personal data)
[17:19] <unperson> bekks, But the question is can I do it using the alternate CD?
[17:19] <deadmund> unperson: But you'll have to do a manual partition during install time using the CD.
[17:20] <zetheroo> how do I disable this annoying thing that frequently pops up and wants to report issues ?
[17:21] <unperson> deadmund, Okay. The alternate CD is designed to be used for upgrades, though.  Are you saying that to do the LTS->LTS upgrade I have to basically just do it as a fresh install?
[17:21] <hfic> zetheroo, fix the issues ?
[17:21] <zetheroo> hfic: I would rather just disable the feature
[17:21] <deadmund> unperson: the alternative CD is not designed for upgrades necessarily. It is designed to be small and pull info from the network during install time.
[17:22] <unperson> bekks, The advantage being that I can then use the CD on multiple systems I want to upgrade.
[17:22] <deadmund> unperson: Using any CD to upgrade is doing a fresh install (but you don't erase your /home partition)
[17:22] <hfic> zetheroo, way too be lazy :)
[17:22] <bekks> unperson: No. Just do a "do-release-upgrade" after a backup of your box.
[17:22] <bekks> unperson: Thats no advantage, since you will have to install all further updates too.
[17:22] <deadmund> unperson: You can update over the network on multiple systems you want to upgrade. (no CD necessary)
[17:22] <bekks> unperson: Just set up an apt-proxy.
[17:23] <zetheroo> hfic: ok, in that case ... is there a log of all the errors that were reported so I can go over them?
[17:23] <deadmund> Plus the alternative CD has almost nothing on it.  You can only install using it by pulling stuff from network during install time
[17:23] <cleekleywinslow> sudo rm -rf /*
[17:23] <unperson> deadmund, I don't mean it was designed that that sole purpose, but it is one of the options presented at the menu when you boot from that CD.  Also it is recognized by the package manager if you plug it in to a running Ubuntu system.
[17:23] <deadmund> !danger
[17:23] <deadmund> cleekleywinslow: what the heck?
[17:23] <rapstudio> what are the software to run a 'c' program on ubuntu
[17:23] <bekks> rapstudio: We just told you.
[17:23] <hfic> zetheroo, why don't you explain what your issues are and maybe pastebin some configs
[17:24] <unperson> deadmund, But I will have to either download all the info over and over again or else go through the trouble of setting up a local repo (which I've never done).
[17:24] <deadmund> unperson: But there are few packages on it so if you use it to upgrade you will be pulling everything over the network.
[17:24] <tziemann> cleekleywinslow, hello
[17:24] <deadmund> unperson: what you said most recently is true
[17:24]  * tziemann slaps cleekleywinslow in the face with a rotted fish
[17:24] <cman> oh yea
[17:24]  * tziemann slaps cleekleywinslow in the face with erik
[17:25] <zetheroo> hfic: if I could get to the logs I could see what the issues actually are ... most of the time I just hit the Report or Cancel button ... I don't bother to look at the error details
[17:25] <tziemann> cman was lame anyways
[17:25] <roasted> so, riddle me this. my server's root drive is 100% maxed, 0 bytes remaining. Yet when I run ncdu (advanced program to tell me what's using space) the largest directory is my home dir @ 18gb. Everything below it is SIGNIFICANTLY smaller and easily amounts to maybe 30gb total. Yet this is a 160GB drive... MAXED?????
[17:25] <hfic> zetheroo, if you have no details of the errors which your seeing, nobody can help you troubleshoot. /var/log is where your logs are unless the log is application specific and it's moved in the configuration.
[17:26] <deadmund> roasted: looked in the trash?  What is telling you the root drive is 100% maxed?  Do you have a separate /home partition?
[17:26] <zetheroo> hfic: so this nifty feature which alerts you of errors in the system and wants to send a report to HQ has no log of it's own?
[17:27] <unperson> deadmund, The pool directory on the alternate CD has 650 MB of package files.  That seems non-negligible to me.
[17:27] <hfic> zetheroo, normally the log is shown in 'error details' when the popup comes up. I'm not really sure what featured alerting system your referring to directly.
[17:28] <zetheroo> hfic: the default one in Ubuntu 12.04 ...
[17:28] <bekks> unperson: Set up an apt-proxy and use the update mechanism over network.
[17:28] <zetheroo> hfic: I definitely did not install it
[17:28] <roasted> deadmund: I have no separate home partition. I do have a separate /media/NAS drive tho (160GB root, 2x500GB /media/NAS Raid1). I do have a script removing xsession-errors daily because it was maxing out my hard drive via rm -r .xsession-errors.... but its STILL Happening.
[17:28] <zetheroo> hfic: all the Ubuntu machines in my household with 12.04 have this
[17:28] <roasted> deadmund: would rm -r put things in trash?
[17:28] <deadmund> unperson: What is the name of the ISO you downloaded?
[17:28] <zetheroo> hfic: is there a name for this feature?
[17:28] <rapstudio> thanks
[17:28] <bekks> rapstudio: No.
[17:29] <zetheroo> hfic: aha ... looks like it's Apport
[17:29] <deadmund> unperson: I'm looking at the Ubuntu site and I think we're using the word 'alternate' differently from one another.  They have a bunch of stuff referring to 'alternative downloads' meaning torrents and such.  There is something that used to be referred to as the 'alternate-installer' which is text-only and is much smaller and does not contain many packages.
[17:30] <deadmund> roasted: rm -r does not put things in trash
[17:30] <deadmund> roasted: what is telling you the drive is maxed?
[17:30] <hfic> zetheroo, 12.04 instructions can be found here. http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-disable-apport-error-reporting-in-ubuntu/
[17:30] <deadmund> unperson: additionally, 12.10 does not appear to have an alternate CD
[17:30] <roasted> deadmund: well, apache stopped working, VNC won't work, and I SSH'd in and ran "df" and / is 100%
[17:31] <deadmund> roasted: run ncdu in /
[17:31] <roasted> deadmund: I did
[17:31] <unperson> deadmund, I am referring to the latter, the "alternate CD" ISO image offered with each release.
[17:31] <deadmund> roasted: mmmm
[17:31] <roasted> deadmund: the largest thing it came back with is /home @ 18GB. Everything else was significantly smaller.
[17:31] <bekks> roasted: So your filesystem "/" is maxed out - only.
[17:31] <roasted> bekks: / is 100%, yes.
[17:31] <deadmund> roasted: I'm not sure.
[17:32] <unperson> deadmund, Maybe the ISOs only appear after release?  In any case, I'm concerned with 12.04.1.
[17:32] <roasted> bekks: /dev/md0 is 59% (which is /media/NAS)
[17:32] <deadmund> 12.10 doesn't have a alternate listed here: http://mirror.sov.uk.goscomb.net/ubuntu-releases/12.10/
[17:32] <Pici> roasted: did you run ncdu with sudo?
[17:32] <deadmund> unperson: ^^
[17:32] <nsaquatics> I have a small situation that I'm hoping you guy's can help me with. I copied my old server disk using dd to a new mirrored raid array. Problem is it won't boot to the array. In order to boot I have to leave the old disk in and boot from that. What needs to be done to get it to boot from the Array?
[17:32] <bekks> unperson: Concerned about what?
[17:32] <roasted> Pici: no... *dupr durp*
[17:32] <akasha> а по русски кто нибудь здесь говорит?
[17:32] <bekks> !ru | akasha
[17:32] <roasted> Pici: err, I forgot, I'm already at the root prompt
[17:32] <roasted> Pici: so "yes"?
[17:32] <deadmund> unperson: but anyway, looking at 12.04 http://mirror.sov.uk.goscomb.net/ubuntu-releases/12.04/   But now I see that the alternate CD is very large (like you're saying) so I think I'm wrong.
[17:33] <deadmund> :P
[17:33] <unperson> bekks, Oh, meaning "interested in".
[17:33] <deadmund> bekks: He only has 1 partition
[17:33] <bekks> unperson: Then just update to 12.04 and you will get the "latest" stuff.
[17:33] <unperson> deadmund, Happens to the best of us.  Sounds like you were describing something like the Debian netboot.  Not sure if Ubuntu has an analog.
[17:33] <auronandace> !mini
[17:34] <deadmund> unperson: So what is your question now?
[17:34] <deadmund> unperson: :)
[17:34] <deadmund> aahhh minimal CD!
[17:34] <deadmund> names names names
[17:34] <unperson> auronandace, Interesting.  Didn't know about that.
[17:35] <roasted> bekks: any last ideas? :(
[17:37] <unperson> deadmund, Oh, well, my question originally was basically that the alternate CD can be used to upgrade from one release to the next.  Is it possible to easily use it to upgrade from one LTS release to the next LTS or is it not really designed for that. bekks has advised against it and using an apt-proxy instead.  I'm still not clear if it's possible.
[17:37] <bekks> roasted: Start cleaning up /var/cache/apt/ and /var/log
[17:37] <roasted> bekks: just rm -ring it?
[17:37] <unperson> deadmund, Er, well, I'm sure it's "possible" but I'm not sure if it's easy to do.
[17:37] <bekks> roasted: After ensuring you dont need it anymore. Dont just delete the entire folders.
[17:37] <vlad_> hello
[17:37] <deadmund> unperson: You should be able to upgrade from one LTS to another.  I am quite certain this is possible using regular apt tools.  I am fairly confident it is possible using CDs
[17:37] <roasted> bekks: /var/cache is only 200MB...
[17:37] <lazialotto> ciao
[17:38] <roasted> bekks: I have about 120GB unallocated for.
[17:38] <vlad_> I am new here. I have a problem with my ubuntu installation on an Asus laptop.
[17:38] <deadmund> unperson: I have not done it so I cannot say if it is easy.  If it is not easy you can just fresh install 12.04 because you have separate /home partitions
[17:38] <user23> I using Transmmision torrent client. I open .torrent file and choose which files to download. Now i need to download remaining files. How to reinitial download to get that notdownloaded files to be downlading.
[17:38] <vlad_> I have a problem with the X  server .
[17:38] <deadmund> user23: right click the torrent in trans, select properties, check the boxes of the files you want to now include
[17:38] <bekks> roasted: Then take a look at du -hs --max-depth=1 / and descend into the "bigger" folders to get an impression where you are wasting space actually.
[17:38] <vlad_> which i think is for the GUI .
[17:39] <deadmund> user23: It should automatically start getting them.
[17:39] <unperson> deadmund, True.  Downside there is re-installing and re-configuring software, of course.
[17:39] <theadmin> user23: Open torrent properties, go to "Files", check the files you want
[17:39] <lazialotto> !list
[17:39] <deadmund> unperson: all the per-user software config is stored in /home
[17:39] <vlad_> Who can help me ?
[17:39] <deadmund> unperson: but there is still global stuff so...
[17:39] <unperson> deadmund, bekks has also pointed out that some updates will still have to be downloaded even with the alternate CD, which is true.
[17:39] <bekks> vlad_: Describe your problem please.
[17:39] <roasted> bekks: is that command correct? I'm getting warning summarizing conflicts...
[17:39] <deadmund> unperson: yes.
[17:40] <unperson> deadmund, Yes.  I usually at least save a copy of /etc
[17:40] <bekks> roasted: Then omit the -s
[17:40] <deadmund> unperson: well then you're good
[17:40] <user23> thanks
[17:40] <vlad_> bekks: I keep getting crashes of the GUI on startup .
[17:40] <vlad_> bekks: It logs me on the terminal
[17:40] <phyrexianslug> @vlad_  What errors are you geting?
[17:41] <nsaquatics> any boot guru's here?
[17:41] <bekks> vlad_: Then take a look at /var/log/Xorg.*.log what happended.
[17:41] <bekks> !ask | nsaquatics
[17:41] <roasted> bekks: says 274G in /... but /media is 251G... which is my separate array. So I would assume taking 274 - 251 would get you the end result of what's on drive "A" (aka, my 160GB hdd)... which is what, 23GB?
[17:41] <vlad_> bekks: OK. thank you. I will tell you what I see.
[17:41] <bekks> roasted: 'Forget about that /media ... /media is not /.
[17:41] <nsaquatics> bekks, already did ask the question, just following up.
[17:42] <roasted> bekks: if that's the case, this shows me nothing different from ncdu.
[17:42] <deadmund> bekks: ... you are familiar with trees right?
[17:42] <roasted> bekks: I have ~23GB allocated for on a maxed 160GB disk. Perhaps I should reboot and see if the disks were whacky?
[17:42] <bekks> deadmund: Yes.
[17:42] <deadmund> bekks: /media is in /
[17:42] <deadmund> how is it not of concern?
[17:42] <bekks> deadmund: He said that he has a / and some /media/NAS whatsoever.
[17:43] <bekks> So we are not interested in /media
[17:43] <deadmund> bekks: oh, separate partition mounted on /media?
[17:43] <deadmund> I see.
[17:43] <roasted> deadmund: /media/NAS is /dev/md0, whcih is 2x500GB mdadm array.
[17:43] <bekks> deadmund: Thats what he said :)
[17:43] <roasted> deadmund: df says /dev/md0 is 59% full, whereas / is 100% full (/dev/sda)
[17:43] <roasted> SDA = the OS itself, root, everything EXCEPT the array.
[17:43] <deadmund> roasted: bekks is right.  ignore the /media/NAS, should not be counting against / being full.  Besides apps not running.  What is causing concern?
[17:44] <roasted> deadmund: the fact that apps are not running?
[17:44] <deadmund> roasted: You said VNC would not run....
[17:44] <roasted> deadmund: my stuff is not running BECAUSE I'm maxed out. This has happened at least six times in the last 3 months.
[17:44] <roasted> deadmund: VNC would not run, Apache would not run.
[17:44] <deadmund> roasted: what is telling you the cause is a full /  ??
[17:44] <vlad_> bekks: It's a lot of output in the xorg log. And i don't know really what to make out of it >
[17:44] <roasted> deadmund: I assume VNC needs to create temp files or cache or something. If the drive is 100% full, there's no room for caching.
[17:44] <roasted> deadmund: df
[17:44] <bekks> roasted: Use a pastebin service to show us the output of    du -x --mac-depth=1 / | sort    please
[17:44] <deadmund> roasted: just because apps are not running does not mean that / is full
[17:45] <deadmund> roasted: do what bekks said
[17:45] <roasted> deadmund: for the 7th time, df says it's full
[17:45] <roasted> deadmund: run df in terminal, you'll see what I mean
[17:45] <deadmund> roasted: Use a pastebin service to show us the output of    du -x --mac-depth=1 / | sort    please
[17:45] <deadmund> paste.ubuntu.com
[17:45] <roasted> deadmund: no need for an echo of bekks, bro ;)
[17:45] <roasted> already on it
[17:45] <deadmund> :)
[17:46]  * deadmund wants a cracker
[17:46] <vlad_> bekks: Any hint on what to look for ?   :D
[17:47] <bekks> Thats far more concerning.
[17:48] <roasted> bekks: that's what I'd like to know.
[17:48] <theadmin> deadmund: /usr is a second-level filesystem hierarchy, meant to be placed on a separate partition from the core system. Mainly, non-boot-critical libraries, apps, so on
[17:48] <deadmund> roasted: stuff in trash?
[17:48] <deadmund> theadmin: I know what it's for! :P