[12:14] <gbm> :?
[12:15] <gbm> iy kubuntu will frreeze soon
[12:18] <epimeth> how do I set the key mappings?  my volume up/down buttons change the volume level by 20% at a go!
[12:20] <venik> My Kubuntu lost its menu and panels!  I did not intentionally change anything!  I have rebooted, but there is no K menu or the quick launch panel, the trash can, etc.!
[12:20] <venik> How do I restore them?
[12:20] <piotrek> !polish
[12:20] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[12:21] <nuu> hey, is anybody here running kubuntu on a laptop ?
[12:21] <|ericsson|> nuu: I guess that you are...
[12:21] <nuu> |ericsson|: yeah, i've only been asking about this for a week now
[12:22] <nuu> i wonder if there's anyone left in the world that doesnt know it ;)
[12:22] <|ericsson|> nuu: that would be me then..
[12:22] <|ericsson|> nuu: let me guess...wi-fi issues?
[12:22] <nuu> you didnt know it, or you run kub on a lappie ? :)
[12:22] <nuu> no, no....i wish
[12:23] <nuu> well, beside my vaio-specific kde issues (at least i think they are such)
[12:23] <nuu> i've a very practical problem
[12:23] <venik> can anyone help me restore those panels at the bottom of my screen, and the K menu?  They died...
[12:23] <tycho> Anyone know how to get kubuntu to use a .ico file for it's icon graphic?
[12:23] <nuu> i use headphones on my lappie.
[12:23] <nuu> now
[12:23] <epimeth> change .ico to .bmp?
[12:23] <nuu> kmix, the mixer program in KDE
[12:23] <venik> I can run the terminal
[12:24] <nuu> it makes you choose which channel you want to handle
[12:24] <nuu> whenever i'm using the laptop speakers, i'm fine with "front speakers" as master channel
[12:24] <nuu> but as soon as i turn to headphones, that slider does nothing. i have to switch to "headphones" as master channel
[12:25] <nuu> of course, there is a single channel that works for both
[12:25] <nuu> ie regulates the volume of both headphones AND laptop speakers output
[12:25] <nuu> namely, the PCM master channel
[12:25] <nuu> there's just one major (to me) issue with that channel
[12:25] <nuu> it doesnt support mute !
[12:25] <nuu> i can't mute it for the life of me
[12:25] <nuu> lower the volume all the way down to zero, no problem
[12:25] <tycho> epimeth: The KDE filter won't let me use anything that ends in .bmp
[12:25] <nuu> but mute just doesnt work
[12:26] <nuu> ideas ?
[12:26] <epimeth> nuu: funnily enough, my "headphone" channel does not change the volume on the headphones, but the speakers *do* get muted when I plug them in and unmutes when I unplug...
[12:26] <epimeth> I literally *just* got my speakers working :-)
[12:26] <epimeth> erm, sound card
[12:27] <epimeth> tycho: open the .ico in Krita and save it as a .png
[12:27] <epimeth> tycho: I'm just suggesting, I don't know this will work :-)
[12:27] <nuu> epimeth: same goes with me
[12:27] <nuu> epimeth: speakers get muted out
[12:27] <tycho> epimeth: Haha, no worries ;-) It's a stupid bug, but I figure if I'm going to have to look at the icon on my desktop all the time, it might as well look nice
[12:28] <nuu> when i plug headphones in, that is
[12:28] <nuu> but i need mute :(
[12:28] <wwolfe> Hi Guys, Can you help with a problem installing an application with Adept ?
[12:28] <nuu> for, say, when boss enters the room and im watching a movie
[12:28] <nuu> for example :)
[12:29] <epimeth> nuu: damnit!  my mute doesn't work either!!!
[12:29] <lieter> wwolfe, what app?
[12:29] <epimeth> nuu: thanks for pointing it out... grrr
[12:29] <nuu> sorry ;)
[12:29] <epimeth> wtf :-(
[12:29] <wwolfe> I'm installing something,  it paused at 35%, and when I go to "Show Details "  it wants an EULA OKed
[12:29] <epimeth> do you know how to configure kmix slightly more than from within its GUI?
[12:30] <lieter> wwolfe, try to install it using aptitude
[12:30] <wwolfe> but my problem is only half the screen is showing,  No place for Yes/No.  Wierd eh ?
[12:30] <nuu> nop ;/
[12:30] <lieter> wwolfe, sudo aptitude install [package name]
[12:30] <wwolfe> OK, I can try aptitude,  thanks Lieter.
[12:30] <lieter> wwolfe, that way you can click OK in the terminal
[12:31] <wwolfe> Suggestions on how I quit out of Adept in mid-install ?
[12:31] <venik> what does metacity do?
[12:32] <Markeda> So. Anybody here experience with installing stuff under Kubuntu?
[12:32] <lieter> wwolfe, hit cancel?
[12:32] <|ericsson|> nuu: does it make a difference if you 'mute' in the mixer or try to 'right-click' on the icon->mute?
[12:32] <lieter> venik, metacity is the gnome window manager
[12:32] <nuu> |ericsson|: totally! i use fn+f2 to mute ;)
[12:32] <chemist109> epimeth: You can try alsamixer
[12:32] <lieter> venik, just like KWin in KDE
[12:32] <stoft> my mute works :) with fn+ESC
[12:32] <nuu> quicker than grabbing the mouse
[12:32] <stoft> (toshiba)
[12:32] <epimeth> chemist109: and that helps me how?
[12:32] <nuu> stoft: what master channel ?
[12:32] <lieter> venik, it is what draws the windowborders etc.
[12:33] <stoft> nuu: how do I find out?
[12:33] <epimeth> kmix's things are all correct, just no mute and the vol up/down buttons change the level by friggin 20%
[12:33] <nuu> kmix config
[12:33] <wwolfe> lieter, I think my only options are from the menu Adept>Quit.  There is no Cancel button.
[12:33] <chemist109> epimeth: I dunno.  I don't know what your mixer problem is.  I have found alsamixer lists things that kmix sometimes doesn't
[12:33] <venik> How do I restart the window manager in KDE?  I think part of it died-- I lost the K menu
[12:33] <epimeth> chemist109: so yea, listing things is fine :-)  thanks anyway
[12:33] <lieter> wwolfe, use that :)
[12:33] <Daisuke_Ido> venik: that's not the window manager
[12:33] <epimeth> nuu: what about kmix config?
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> try running kicker
[12:34] <nuu> epimeth: just telling stoft where to look
[12:34] <lieter> venik, i dont know, try CTRL+ALT+BACKS{ACE it will restart yout Xserver
[12:34] <wwolfe> lieter, you asked what ? I'm installing VMware Player in 6.0.6
[12:34] <venik> what do I do to see the K menu again?
[12:34] <nuu> alt+f2, kicker
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[12:34] <epimeth> nuu: oh
[12:34] <lieter> wwolfe, just quit adept and use the command line to aptitude install it
[12:34] <Daisuke_Ido> why would you recommend he restart x when it's a simple fix?
[12:35] <stoft> nuu: any idea where I find that, I know very little about sound on linux...
[12:35] <lieter> Daisuke_Ido, cause i didnt know ;), i use Gnome
[12:35] <nuu> stoft: brb phone
[12:35] <stoft> nuu: k
[12:35] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[12:35] <wwolfe> lieter, OK, thanks for your help,  Good night,  Gutten Nickt
[12:35] <Daisuke_Ido> that makes sense
[12:35] <lieter> np wwolfe
[12:36] <epimeth> nuu: ~/.kde/share/config/kmixrc !!!!
[12:37] <venik> Cntr-Alt-Backspace restarted my X server, but did not revive my dead K menu
[12:37] <venik> WHen I reboot, I am told that an application had crashed, but not which one
[12:37] <epimeth> nuu: scratch that last one... its pretty useless at first glance...
[12:41] <venik> I guess it has not happen to anyone before...
[12:41] <venik> (losing the menu, I mean)
[12:41] <TheDebugger> venik: ...
[12:41] <chemist109> venik: Is the kicker gone?
[12:41] <TheDebugger> venik: Right-click on the bar, then add the applet
[12:41] <chemist109> or just the kmenu?
[12:42] <TheDebugger> The kicker bar
[12:42] <wwolfe> How can I check the name of a package with apt ?  Is it apt query or something like that?
[12:43] <venik> there is no bar to click on!
[12:43] <venik> EVERYTHING is gone
[12:43] <TheDebugger> wwolfe: sudo apt-cache search <word>
[12:44] <chemist109> wwolfe: sudo apt-cache search packagename
[12:44] <venik> I have rebooted, etc.-- nothing worked
[12:44] <TheDebugger> venik: alt+f2 then type kicker
[12:44] <wwolfe> Thanks
[12:44] <venik> typing kicker did nothing
[12:45] <TheDebugger> venik: Is that a new installation?
[12:45] <venik> It was last week
[12:45] <TheDebugger> You could delete all your preferences :/
[12:45] <venik> by now I have done many tweaks...
[12:45] <venik> how do I do that?
[12:45] <chemist109> venik: try deleting just the kicker file first...
[12:46] <chemist109> venik: rm ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
[12:47] <orient2000> pclinuxos passes ubuntu. What do you think about it? Pesonally I will stick with kubuntu but I woner about your opinion.
[12:48] <Markeda> Are there any special programs needed to install something with Kubuntu 7.04? I've tried Adept, Apt-get and tar.gz files (./configure, etc) but have been unable to install anything (tried firefox, sunbird and rainlendar). Documentation and Google have only told me what I already know.
[12:48] <venik> stupidly, I have now deleted the kicker file, but not the one you menat
[12:48] <venik> meant
[12:49] <Dragnslcr> Markeda- if Adept isn't working for you, I would guess that something is very wrong with your system
[12:49] <dominic_> ok screw bootsplash(es)
[12:50] <chemist109> venik: What did you delete?
[12:50] <venik> a file called kicker in (I think) /usr/bin
[12:51] <chemist109> venik: lol
[12:51] <chemist109> venik: that's easy to fix
[12:51] <venik> chinese is also easy, but you have to know it
[12:51] <chemist109> venik: first, delete the correct file...
[12:51] <chemist109> venik: I'm gonna help you...
[12:51] <yung_> I just install kubunut 7.04.. how can I see flash with konqueror?
[12:52] <chemist109> venik: rm ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
[12:52] <yung_> Do I need to install flahs player plugin?
[12:52] <reffus> I think automatix could help you
[12:52] <TheDebugger> yung_: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[12:52] <chemist109> venik: then do sudo apt-get install --reinstall kicker
[12:52] <yung_> Thanks
[12:52] <venik> I did remove that one as well, but it did not fix anything
[12:53] <chemist109> venik: did you remove it before you deleted the application?
[12:53] <wwolfe> Markeda, What happens when you use Adept ??
[12:53] <venik> after I removed the application
[12:53] <nuu> stoft, epimeth: amixer sset 'PCM' 0
[12:53] <nuu> that works for me to mute the PCM chan
[12:54] <chemist109> venik: Ok, do the sudo apt-get install --reinstall kicker
[12:54] <nuu> now to bind it to my fn+f2 key ;)
[12:54] <Markeda> wwolfe, I get a bunch of cryptic messages. Give me a moment, and I'll get a screenshot of it.
[12:55] <venik> did that, and still no K menu
[12:55] <yung_> TheDebugger: I got "page loaded" on the status bar, but can't see flash...
[12:55] <yung_> Do I need to reboot?
[12:56] <chemist109> venik: You need to type kicker in a terminal
[12:56] <venik> kicker is already running
[12:56] <chemist109> venik: You have the kicker bar?
[12:57] <venik> No-- nothing
[12:57] <Markeda> Er, ok, I'm a newb... It just worked, and I can't figure out what I did differently...
[12:57] <dwidmann> I'm getting a really weird error message :\
[12:58] <venik> I see no kicker (I would not know it if I saw it-- what does it do?)
[12:58] <chemist109> venik: I'm not sure what to try next.  You could completely remove kicker and then reinstall it.
[12:58] <orient2000> How to call kicker? Ctrl + something?
[12:58] <venik> what does it do?
[12:58] <chemist109> venik: It's a bar across the bottom of your screen
[12:58] <venik> well, that is gone
[12:58] <gusho> hello, how do I change the monitor resolution in kubuntu
[12:58] <venik> is that connected to the K menu?
[12:58] <chemist109> venik: the K menu is in the kicker
[12:59] <venik> ok.  I am removing and reinstalling kicker
[01:00] <chemist109> venik: do it with: sudo apt-get remove --purge kicker
[01:00] <venik> I missed the purge
[01:00] <gusho> does anyone know how I can change the monitor resolution
[01:00] <venik> I typed sudo aptitude remove kicker
[01:01] <chemist109> venik: you can re-install it then purge it then reinstall it again.  --purge is supposed to clear out any configuration files.
[01:01] <epimeth> nuu!  how do I bind keys???
[01:02] <epimeth> and cheers for the shortcut
[01:02] <soulrider> yay, ubuntuforums wished me a happy birthday :P
[01:02] <epimeth> I assume amixer is the actual mixer that kmixer sits on top of?
[01:02] <soulrider> !xorg
[01:02] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:02] <soulrider> gusho: follow that link
[01:02] <nuu> epimeth: im trying to hook into the sonypi acpi event for when i push the "mute" key combo
[01:02] <nuu> it indeed runs a script
[01:02] <nuu> in /etc/acpi
[01:02] <orient2000> !kicker
[01:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:03] <nuu> i dunno about your laptop
[01:03] <epimeth> soulrider: happy birthday! 2nd or 3rd?
[01:03] <soulrider> 19th :P
[01:03] <epimeth> soooo... its not your birthday!
[01:04] <soulrider> yes, it is :P
[01:04] <soulrider> its my 19th bday :P
[01:04] <soulrider> may 3rd :P
[01:04] <wwolfe> its my birthday now,
[01:04] <soulrider> its not may 3rd here though yet :P
[01:04] <soulrider> awesome wolferine
[01:04] <soulrider> wwolfe: *
[01:04] <wwolfe> HAPPY BIRTHDAY to all 3rd May-ers
[01:04] <soulrider> my grandpas bday is the 3rd of may too
[01:05] <dell190_>  Can someone tell me how i can get the Firefox icon in the k menu please
[01:05] <epimeth> happy 3rd of may to all people in GMT and over!
[01:05] <venik> OK-- reintalled it.
[01:05] <venik> Shall I type kicker now?
[01:05] <soulrider> dell190_:  it should be under Internet
[01:06] <chemist109> venik: Yes try it again
[01:06] <venik> error-- kicker is already running
[01:06] <dell190_> soulrider: it isn't, i have to press ALT+F2 then type firefox in order for it to run
[01:06] <chemist109> venik: try killall kicker then try running it again
[01:07] <epimeth> nuu: one problem tho... hitting "mute" *does* show a big "mute" on my screen...
[01:07] <venik> got it-- thanks a lot!
[01:07] <soulrider> dell190_:  right clickt he k menu and then edit it
[01:07] <venik> It is all back
[01:07] <chemist109> venik: It
[01:07] <mardi> yay venik!
[01:07] <chemist109> s working?
[01:07] <chemist109> Great!
[01:07] <epimeth> so I assume kde's OCD (or is that kmix's OCD???) is mapped properly, its just that it's muting the wrong device
[01:07] <epimeth> nuu ^
[01:07] <venik> why it died is another question....
[01:08] <chemist109> venik: Best not to ask...
[01:09] <venik> I escaped WINDOWS for this?   ;-)
[01:09] <chemist109> :-)
[01:09] <mardi> feels good eh? :D
[01:10] <tullle> nice OS :D
[01:11] <stoft> nuu, you back?
[01:11] <orient2000> pclinuxos passes ubuntu. What do you think about it? Pesonally I will stick with kubuntu but I woner about your opinion.
[01:12] <venik> WHy is there a blank icon on the left of my bottom panel?
[01:13] <venik> It looks like a white sheet of paper
[01:13] <venik> with its bottom right folded
[01:13] <epimeth> what happens when you right-click on it?
[01:13] <venik> with no name
[01:13] <orient2000> I have it tooo simetimes. Blank icon.
[01:13] <epimeth> venik: ^
[01:13] <chemist109> venik: Sounds like an application that's lost its icon
[01:14] <venik> I removed it several times, but it is still there
[01:14] <nuu> stoft: i'm fiddling with my acpi scripts atm, to manage the "mute" key and act accordingly on my own, and launching amixer manually
[01:14] <chemist109> venik: what is it?
[01:14] <orient2000> It is a dead icon. Nothink happans.
[01:14] <nuu> epimeth: the problem is with kmix, i think it doesnt support muting for the PCM channel
[01:14] <stoft> nuu: by master before, you mean this? MasterMixer=ALSA::Intel_82801DB-ICH4:1
[01:14] <nuu> nope stoft, i meant the master channel in kmix
[01:15] <venik> When I right click on it it says: Add application, Configure quicklaunch, or remove
[01:15] <nuu> ie the channel your volume controls regulate currently
[01:15] <epimeth> grrr
[01:15] <nuu> epimeth: your box appears because the modules that handle your keypresses handle the message nicely
[01:15] <chemist109> venik: That sounds like the quicklauncher.
[01:15] <nuu> the problem is, when they emulate the correct button, kmix ignores it because muting ain't supported
[01:15] <nuu> you can verify this by hitting "mute" with the mouse, when pcm is master chan
[01:15] <nuu> it wont work either
[01:16] <chemist109> venik: You can add applications and they show up as tiny icons.
[01:16] <nuu> at least doesnt here
[01:16] <venik> it is the same context menu I get from all otehr applications near it
[01:16] <epimeth> nuu: I can verify that that isn't happening
[01:16] <venik> ok
[01:16] <epimeth> sound is not muting
[01:16] <epimeth> help me!!! :-)
[01:16] <dominic_> k, when a program, firefox for example turns into transparent black. what does it mean? its frozen?
[01:16] <Dragnslcr> venik- it might be a text file or something that you open often enough that KDE thinks should be in the quicklaunch area
[01:16] <stoft> nuu: I think it's that one. opening kmix I have a "Select Master Channel" and Master concurs with the above line in my kmixrc
[01:17] <nuu> so what i'm doing is modifying the /etc/acpi/mutebtn.sh script (that gets called when event /etc/acpi/events/sony-mute is invoked as you press the mute combination on sony lappies, same goes with other brands with different events)
[01:17] <Dragnslcr> venik- I noticed that it kept adding icons even though the "automatically add items" option was turned off
[01:17] <nuu> my modification involves saving the current volume level if sound isnt muted, and invoking amixer manually from within the acpi sh script
[01:17] <nuu> so as to forcefully mute it
[01:17] <chemist109> venik: try right clicking on a blank spot on the kicker and going to remove from panel>applet and see if quicklaunch is there.
[01:17] <nuu> and the other way round, retrieving the saved volume level and restoring it, if the sound is currently muted
[01:18] <nuu> it boils down to trivial bash scripting, it's easy peasy and it'll fix it, finally :)
[01:19] <stoft> :)
[01:19] <nuu> stoft: if you select PCM as master channel, can you mute it as you can with every other channel ?
[01:19] <stoft> hang on
[01:19] <stoft> yes
[01:19] <nuu> and does the sound *actually* get muted ?
[01:19] <nuu> or it just says its muting it, but really doing nothing ?
[01:20] <venik> when I left click on that empty thing I get: malformed url
[01:20] <chemist109> nuu: are you using kmixctrl to save settings?
[01:20] <epimeth> nuu: how's this for sneaky sneaky:  selected "front" as my master channel
[01:20] <epimeth> now muting works
[01:20] <stoft> it is being muted, but not sure if some daemon needs restarting
[01:20] <epimeth> but volume is still too much... how do I change the vol up/down settings?
[01:20] <nuu> epimeth: that wont work as soon as you plug earphones in
[01:20] <nuu> :|
[01:21] <nuu> chemist109: kmixcrl, interesting
[01:21] <lunar-raven> !aiglx
[01:21] <ubotu> AIGLX is a project that aims to enable GL-accelerated effects on a standard desktop. Supported cards: Nvidia: GeForce3 or newer; ATI: Radeon 7000 through X800; Intel: i810 or newer. Howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/AIGLX. For older Nvidia or newer ATI cards see !xgl
[01:21] <nuu> chemist109: i was going for the "hard" way, ie saving the level to a file under /var/run, alongside with the current mute state
[01:21] <epimeth> bzzzzz!!! I'm so sorry nuu, that was an incorrect answer!  but let's see what you've won!
[01:21] <chemist109> nuu: I think alsactl does the same thing.
[01:21] <nuu> but thanks for mentioning that
[01:21] <epimeth> nuu has one a round trip ticket to his office tomorow morning, where he will work all day and get home pissed
[01:22] <nuu> haha
[01:22] <venik> got to go-- thanks for your help
[01:22] <nuu> epimeth: if you mute front channel, don't you still hear sound when you put headphones in ?
[01:22] <thony> whats C:\ in linux
[01:22] <epimeth> so... you know how to change the amount of volume increase and decrase the vol up/dn buttons do?
[01:23] <epimeth> thony: there isn't any... closest thing to it is /
[01:23] <chemist109> thony: \
[01:23] <nuu> thony: there's no such thing as "c:\" ;)
[01:23] <stoft> C:/ ? ;-)
[01:23] <thony> lol, ok
[01:23] <epimeth> first one iny, baby!  hoorah!
[01:23] <nuu> thony: c:\ is the root of a disk drive. that is represented by something called "mountpoint" in linux
[01:23] <chemist109> oops I meant /
[01:24] <[_uplink_] > HELLO!
[01:24] <nuu> thony: say you mount your "c:" drive under /media/c_drive
[01:24] <thony> nuu: ok
[01:24] <nuu> then /media/c_drive will equal to your "C:\"
[01:24] <[_uplink_] > I need help with my wireless settings
[01:24] <[_uplink_] > ;(
[01:24] <alex__> hi everyone,
[01:24] <epimeth> nuu: nooo!!!!!!
[01:24] <alex__> i have big prob
[01:24] <nuu> epimeth: i do :\
[01:24] <thony> nuu: which is represented by a "/"...
[01:24] <epimeth> now the sound doesn't mute from the speakers when I plug in the headphones!!!
[01:25] <nuu> epimeth: front wont mute headphones
[01:25] <epimeth> nuu, I didn't mean about what you were saying to thony :-)
[01:25] <alex__> whenever i try to install something or update anyting i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18886/
[01:25] <nuu> they're two separate channels
[01:25] <nuu> epimeth: i know
[01:25] <epimeth> nuu: so why does the vol go up/dn on the headphones?
[01:25] <[_uplink_] > anyone that can help me pplease
[01:26] <nuu> epimeth: you're talking about the kmix channel, or the actual volume you hear ?
[01:26] <epimeth> actual volume
[01:26] <nuu> if i pick "front" as master chan, and i plug the headphones, i can regulate front volume, but headphones still get unchanged volume
[01:26] <chemist109> alex__: sudo apt-get -f install will fix your hanging package problem.  It will probably uninstall something, though.
[01:26] <nuu> front volume gets muted instantly as i plug my headphones in, btw
[01:27] <nuu> i think this all boils down to how the sound hardware handles physical plug-in and plug-out
[01:27] <nuu> my lappie will mute front speakers, i dunno what this is due to, perhaps it's the sonypi modules, i wouldnt know
[01:28] <nuu> i'll brb
[01:28] <epimeth> nuu: hows this for screwy:
[01:28] <alex__> still the same prob chemist109
[01:28] <epimeth> nuu: lemme know when you get back
[01:29] <chemist109> alex__: what does: ls -l /etc/inittab     say?
[01:29] <alex__> no such file or directory
[01:30] <VeryHF> Hi All,I have a problem: I have a Ubuntu 6.10 workstation and the printer driver dictates the number of copies no matter what the word editing program is used and what the copies are set to.
[01:30] <chemist109> alex__: That's very bad.  Don't shut down or you might not get it to boot.
[01:31] <alex__> when i do :runit --configure, it says fatal: run has to be process 1
[01:31] <alex__> chemist109
[01:31] <chemist109> alex__: sorry, false alarm
[01:32] <chemist109> You're using feisty, aren't you?
[01:34] <alex__> sorry disconected.
[01:34] <alex__> no such file or directory chemist109
[01:34] <alex__> when i do :runit --configure, it says fatal: run has to be process 1
[01:35] <chemist109> alex__: I didn't realize that feisty had done away with inittab.  runit will never find it because it's not there.
[01:36] <chemist109> alex__: Were these packages for your system?  or an older version?  What system are you running?
[01:37] <jordo23> If k3b says it can't find the MP3 plugin when I start which package should I install?
[01:37] <alex__> which means i can't update or install anything chemist109?
[01:37] <alex__> feisty chemist
[01:38] <chemist109> alex__: I think you'll have to give up on git for the time being.  I think you can fix everything else, though.
[01:38] <alex__> i install kubuntu feisty beta, and now i want to upgrade the kernels chemist109
[01:38] <sumguy231> jordo23: You want the package 'libk3b2-mp3'.
[01:38] <jordo23> sumguy231: Thanks...worked
[01:38] <sumguy231> Hooray. :)
[01:38] <alex__> the problem is that i have another box with the same system,and works fine chemist109
[01:39] <chemist109> alex__: Try: sudo dpkg -r runit git-daemon-run
[01:39] <chemist109> alex__: Then, upgrade to feisty final.
[01:42] <alex__> there doesn't seem to be a problem now, i'll start upgrading to feisty, and if i have any probs i'll get back here, Thanx chemist109
[01:42] <nuu> right, PCM muting now works :)
[01:43] <alex__> thanx again chemist109
[01:43] <alex__> laters
[01:43] <chemist109> alex__: You're welcome. Good luck!
[01:43] <[_uplink_] > hmm, can someone please help me ?
[01:44] <chemist109> [_uplink_] : what is the problem?
[01:44] <[_uplink_] > :D
[01:44] <[_uplink_] > hello chemist109
[01:44] <[_uplink_] > I have issues with my wireless network
[01:44] <[_uplink_] > it wont connect
[01:45] <[_uplink_] > I barly got Kubuntu
[01:45] <[_uplink_] > *barely
[01:45] <sumguy231> I'm new here myself, but I imagine people will need more specifics like if you're using WEP and maybe what kind of error you get.
[01:46] <levon> does kubuntu support utf-128 bit?
[01:46] <[_uplink_] > well, I have WAP-PSK firewall
[01:47] <[_uplink_] > I use broadcom wi-fi NIC
[01:47] <levon> im using it to encode a python program so im just curious
[01:47] <[_uplink_] > it comes built in
[01:47] <sumguy231> That could very well be your problem. PCI?
[01:47] <[_uplink_] > no no, laptop
[01:47] <[_uplink_] > *notebook
[01:47] <[_uplink_] > HP notebook
[01:47] <[_uplink_] > with windows
[01:48] <levon> aww wait
[01:48] <[_uplink_] > and on windows works perfect
[01:48] <levon> hp??
[01:48] <[_uplink_] > yes, HP Notebook
[01:48] <levon> pci3945 right
[01:48] <sumguy231> Oh, I don't own a laptop or a broadcom card so I probably won't be able to help much. I can tell you broadcom cards are notoriously bad with working in Linux.
[01:48] <levon> wait thats gateway lol
[01:48] <levon> im sure its pci though
[01:48] <[_uplink_] > ;((
[01:48] <levon> uplink
[01:48] <[_uplink_] > well, a friend has an older notebook than mines
[01:48] <levon> who has a problem?
[01:48] <sumguy231> But fear not! Someone knows how to get it to work. Just not me.
[01:48] <levon> i know how
[01:49] <[_uplink_] > his has broadcom too, and he was able to get the wi-fi working
[01:49] <levon> but whats the card
[01:49] <[_uplink_] > my card ?
[01:49] <levon> yes
[01:49] <[_uplink_] > I cant see it
[01:49] <levon> driver
[01:49] <levon> lol
[01:49] <[_uplink_] > it was showing up yesterday
[01:49] <levon> okay hold on i think its pci3945
[01:49] <[_uplink_] > but I went to "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces" and commented everything
[01:50] <flaccid> [_uplink_] : including local loopback?
[01:50] <levon> goto adept and download pcid pci3945 and pciu
[01:50] <[_uplink_] > except that one
[01:50] <flaccid> :)
[01:50] <[_uplink_] > well, I got help yesterday and I downloaded the RIGHT driver for it
[01:50] <levon> pci deamon pciu=firmware and pci3945 is actual driver
[01:51] <levon> load thoughs up see what happens
[01:51] <[_uplink_] > and it was SHOWING up, and my network too. but when I tried to connect. It would stay on 28% saying "Configuring device"
[01:51] <[_uplink_] > I tried to connect throw the network manager GUI
[01:51] <levon> uplink
[01:51] <levon> dont pay attention to the connection
[01:51] <levon> its always wrong
[01:51] <[_uplink_] > ;/
[01:51] <levon> mine says its at 2%
[01:51] <levon> but im connected strong
[01:51] <levon> :P
[01:52] <[_uplink_] > OMG
[01:52] <[_uplink_] > LOL
[01:52] <levon> has something to do with the driver
[01:52] <levon> but your pages should be fast
[01:52] <[_uplink_] > it was something with 34XX
[01:52] <omega_point> hi
[01:52] <[_uplink_] > something like that
[01:52] <levon> yes
[01:52] <levon> 3945
[01:52] <[_uplink_] > I just remember it had 34XX on it
[01:52] <chemist109> [_uplink_] : type: lspci
[01:52] <chemist109> and it should tell you what you have
[01:52] <[_uplink_] > on the terminal ?
[01:52] <levon> yep
[01:52] <omega_point> I have a not-that-important question but it's more about how bash works than anything else
[01:53] <levon> and im pretty positive that its going to be pci
[01:53] <[_uplink_] > 06:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 [AirForce 54g]  802.11a/b/g PCI Express Transceiver (rev 02)
[01:53] <levon> lol
[01:53] <[_uplink_] > -.-"
[01:53] <levon> :P
[01:53] <omega_point> someone willing to give me a hand?
[01:53] <[_uplink_] > :D
[01:53] <sumguy231> omega_point: maybe if you ask it.
[01:53] <levon> so its a pci express tranciever
[01:53] <omega_point> ok
[01:54] <levon> now you should ask how do you set that driver up
[01:54] <levon> www.google.com
[01:54] <[_uplink_] > yeah, built in
[01:54] <levon> hold on ill look
[01:54] <[_uplink_] > yeah, how do I  ?
[01:54] <[_uplink_] > sure
[01:54] <[_uplink_] > :D
[01:54] <omega_point> I've installed VMD, a molecular dynamics visualization program, and I did it wrong, because if I type VMD it doesn't run, just because it's not installed where it's supposed to be
[01:54] <omega_point> (the question is not about that)
[01:55] <omega_point> the thing is I've been reading about .bashrc and .bash_profile and where PATH is set
[01:55] <omega_point> and I've looked into all those files
[01:55] <levon> okay uplink
[01:55] <omega_point> there's not a single mention of the "VMD" program
[01:55] <levon> this is the easiest way i think
[01:55] <omega_point> but if I type vmd it still looks for the executable
[01:55] <levon> do you have the windows driver for it
[01:55] <omega_point> how come?
[01:56] <levon> the wireless driver?
[01:56] <omega_point> it doens't say "unknown command", it says that vmd is not where it's supposed to be, so, there must be any reference about it's path
[01:56] <levon> uplink do you have the driver for the computer but for windows? im thinking from what i read you need to use ndiswrapper for that card
[01:56] <Morrissey> Hi, I was wondering ... does anyone know I can map "Button 8", which is on my mouse, to the "F12" key on my keyboard?
[01:57] <Morrissey> I have xbindkeys installed
[01:57] <[_uplink_] > YES
[01:57] <[_uplink_] > I HAVE IT
[01:57] <levon> okay
[01:57] <[_uplink_] > :D
[01:57] <nuu> stoft, epimeth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18889/
[01:57] <levon> uplink do this sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-common
[01:58] <ejupin> Any one have an idea why my screen goes to a blank screensaver after appx. 5 min? I thought I DEselected all the screensaver and power options, but I guess I'm missing something.
[01:58] <omega_point> (I'm a newbie, if you didn't realise)
[01:58] <levon> you still with me
[01:58] <chemist109> omega_point: what exactly does it say when you launch vmd?
[01:58] <fearless> !wireless
[01:58] <sumguy231> omega_point: Well it must be somewhere in your $PATH or it wouldn't work at all. That's pretty much all I know. As far as I know, bash doesn't look recursively, though. I assume you have done an echo $PATH to look, right?
[01:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:58] <[_uplink_] > sure levon
[01:58] <[_uplink_] > :D:DD
[01:58] <levon> okay
[01:58] <omega_point> omega@power:~$ vmd
[01:58] <omega_point> bash: /usr/local/bin/vmd: /bin/csh: intrprete incorrecto: No existe el fichero  directorio
[01:59] <levon> then do a sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-source
[01:59] <stoft> nuu: :)
[01:59] <chemist109> omega_point: do you have csh installed?  It looks like your program wants that.
[01:59] <jhutchins> omega_point: Take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto for how to list what files were installed (and where) by a package.
[01:59] <sumguy231> That error seems to be telling you that /usr/local/bin/vmd tried to call csh, but you don't have it installed. That likely means it's a script.
[01:59] <levon> and a final sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9
[01:59] <[_uplink_] > uplink@uplink-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get ndiswrapper-common
[01:59] <[_uplink_] > E: Invalid operation ndiswrapper-common
[01:59] <[_uplink_] > uplink@uplink-laptop:~$
[01:59] <omega_point> thing is that although there's no mention of it in .bashrc and all the related files, it still "knows" it has to look for it
[01:59] <levon> sorry
[02:00] <[_uplink_] > :D
[02:00] <levon> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[02:00] <stoft> bedtime, nn nuu, if sound breaks tomorrow I know who's fault it was... ;)
[02:00] <chemist109> omega_point: You should try installing csh
[02:00] <sumguy231> Which launches another executable after doing various things. It might want csh for a reason, so try installing it.
[02:00] <[_uplink_] > ok
[02:00] <[_uplink_] > :D
[02:00] <levon> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-source
[02:00] <omega_point> ok. Thanks a lot.
[02:00] <[_uplink_] > is on reading database
[02:00] <sumguy231> I'm not sure what your question is. Do an echo $PATH. /usr/local/bin/vmd should be in there.
[02:00] <jhutchins> omega_point: You know that by default, you're running dash not bash, right?
[02:01] <levon> uplink okay
[02:01] <sumguy231> I mean /usr/local/bin/, not /usr/local/bin/vmd. sorry.
[02:01] <levon> hmm is your nick registered
[02:01] <nuu> stoft: haha gnite ;)
[02:01] <[_uplink_] > nop
[02:01] <omega_point> I know nothing by default
[02:01] <epimeth> nuu, you here?
[02:01] <omega_point> I'm a complete newbie
[02:01] <[_uplink_] > wanna join a blank chan ?
[02:01] <nuu> yup epimeth
[02:01] <jhutchins> sumguy231: Subdirectories of the path shouldn't be added to the path by programs.  In any case, the $PATH variable is only updated when the shell is started.
[02:01] <ko12upt> yes
[02:01] <Daisuke_Ido> what are the differences between dash and bash?
[02:01] <omega_point> when I open a terminal I'm using dash?
[02:01] <ko12upt> #help
[02:01] <jhutchins> omega_point: Yup.
[02:01] <ko12upt> uplink
[02:02] <[_uplink_] > YES ?
[02:02] <ko12upt> its still levon go here #levonsndiswrapper
[02:02] <chemist109> omega_point: Are you using feisty?
[02:02] <sumguy231> jhutchins: Yeah, I know. What are you referring to?
[02:02] <jhutchins> omega_point: Anyway, there's a command on that page I sent you that will list what vmd installed where.  There might be some doc or man files you can read to get started.
[02:02] <omega_point> my question is not about how to install something "right", it's more about "how things work". I just want to understand how, if there was no mention of  vmd at .bashrc, etc, it still knew it had to look for it
[02:02] <ko12upt> uplink just click it and you will go
[02:02] <omega_point> yes, feisty
[02:02] <[_uplink_] > OK, thank you
[02:02] <ko12upt> yep
[02:02] <jhutchins> omega_point: No, it "recursed" the path, following the subdirectories.
[02:03] <sumguy231> There probably isn't mention of vmd, but there should be mention of /usr/local/bin, the directory it is in.
[02:03] <[_uplink_] > no one in there -.-"
[02:03] <levon> uplink ill help you there #helloimhere
[02:03] <omega_point> it's not even there, vmd is in /home/omega/vmd/vmd1- --something--
[02:04] <[_uplink_] > :D
[02:04] <[_uplink_] > thank yYOU
[02:04] <chemist109> omega_point: what does: which vmd    say?
[02:04] <sumguy231> According to bash there is a /usr/local/bin/vmd, though.
[02:04] <levon> lol just go to channel ill help you there lol
[02:04] <sumguy231> And yes, 'which vmd' will tell you exactly where the executable you are running is located.
[02:05] <omega_point> it says /usr/local/bin/vmd
[02:06] <sumguy231> Then that's where it is. And /usr/local/bin should always be in your PATH, therefore bash knows what to do when you type 'vmd'.
[02:07] <omega_point> ok ok ok
[02:07] <omega_point> I get it
[02:07] <omega_point> I'll take a look to the webpage you showed me
[02:07] <omega_point> ok
[02:07] <omega_point> well
[02:07] <omega_point> thabks a lot
[02:08] <omega_point> thanks sumguy231, thanks chemist109
[02:08] <chemist109> welcome
[02:08] <sumguy231> Alright. "Morrisey has left this server" - Wow, Morrisey was here? I should have asked him for an autograph or something.
[02:08] <sumguy231> :)
[02:10] <chemist109> Are you sure you WANTED Morrisey's autograph?
[02:10] <sumguy231> Sure, I enjoy his musical stylings. Not the solo career stuff though, I've never heard any of it. :)
[02:11] <sparr> how can i make the thunderbird composer soft-wrap long lines?
[02:15] <BloodyTux> hi
[02:15] <BloodyTux> anyone need help
[02:15] <Sleepy_Coder> BloodyTux: My girlfriend just broke up with me. :<
[02:15] <Sleepy_Coder> 0.o  Oops...wrong network.
[02:16] <BloodyTux> don't worry... be happy :)
[02:16] <BloodyTux> eventually you'll find someone else
[02:16] <BloodyTux> there's other fish in the sea, to bad most of them are ugly or uber fat
[02:16] <Sleepy_Coder> :<
[02:17] <BloodyTux> lol
[02:17] <Sleepy_Coder> whoo!
[02:18] <Daisuke_Ido> !offtopic
[02:18] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[02:18] <BloodyTux> :(
[02:18] <BloodyTux> :) sorry
[02:19] <BloodyTux> !Daisuke-Ido
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daisuke-ido - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <BloodyTux> ouch your not popular :D
[02:19] <Sleepy_Coder> ahahaha
[02:19] <BloodyTux> !tux
[02:19] <ubotu> tux is the Linux Mascot - http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/linux/
[02:19] <BloodyTux> ooooohhh disss
[02:19] <Sleepy_Coder> !mom
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:19] <Sleepy_Coder> :<
[02:20] <stdin> !botabuse
[02:20] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:20] <Sleepy_Coder> ubotu was never hugged as a child. :<
[02:22] <epimeth> how do I raise screen brightness?
[02:22] <BloodyTux> the costly way or click a couple buttons way?
[02:23] <Sleepy_Coder> ahaha
[02:23] <sichemist> epimeth: you can adjust the gamma with system settings> monitor & display
[02:24] <epimeth> sichemist: not gamma, brightness
[02:25] <Daisuke_Ido> and if you get the gamma *just* right, you get super powers
[02:25] <sichemist> epimeth: I don't know how you can do that except by adjusting your monitor.  Gamma was a poor second choice.
[02:25] <mardi> isin't brightness adjustment on the montior itslef?
[02:25] <epimeth> thats just it... its a lappy... I was playing with the fn keys... dimmer worked, brightness does not!
[02:26] <sichemist> oops :)
[02:26] <mardi> ouch
[02:26] <epimeth> no! not oops, not ouch! help!!!! :-p
[02:26] <mardi> is it still under warrenty? :p
[02:27] <stdin> epimeth: echo 100 | sudo tee /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness
[02:27] <stdin> maybe
[02:27] <sichemist> roommate's home-- WITH ICE CREAM!
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> brightness down doesn't work either?
[02:27] <sichemist> gotta go!
[02:27] <Daisuke_Ido> ice cream...  mmm
[02:27] <sichemist> Stephen Colbert's Americone Dream
[02:28] <Daisuke_Ido> see, i'm more of a vermonty python man
[02:29] <Daisuke_Ido> anyway, i have a paper to finish writing, and hopefully i won't cry because i'm out of time and need 3 more pages
[02:29] <dogatemycomputer> quit
[02:34] <dominic_> can anyone help me play avi format in any multi-media players...?
[02:35] <stdin> dominic_: avi isn't a format, it's a container, it's probably divx or something. you probably need w32codecs
[02:35] <stdin> !w32codecs
[02:35] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[02:35] <dominic_> thanks
[02:36] <thompa> i dont have any network applet
[02:36] <thompa> its gone for some reason and nothing to add
[02:36] <satempler> stdin: in ubuntu installing gstreamer ffmpeg plugin was able to play wmv
[02:37] <Lars_G> Question, in kde/kubuntu who/what/how determines how to call pmount?
[02:37] <stdin> satempler: most kde apps use xine, not gstreamer. so that wouldn't work
[02:37] <satempler> to play divx you need libxine-extracodecs and in adept set to install ubuntu-restricted-extras then un mark them
[02:37] <satempler> ya
[02:37] <thompa> anyone know of a good instan messager, one with japanese sounding name, cant remember
[02:37] <Lars_G> I ask because I have an USB SD reader, and it's being automounted RO
[02:37] <satempler> that what i thought
[02:38] <satempler> the gstreamer plugins install lots of codecs it relies on
[02:38] <satempler> so install then remove just the gstreamer plugin
[02:38] <satempler> you will still have the codecs
[02:39] <shamrockaudio> I accidently added an http address to the repositories and locked them all up. how do i fix it???
[02:39] <lettuce> what's the kde equivilant of "System -> Administration -> Restricted Driver Manager"
[02:39] <Daisuke_Ido> thompa: gaim/pidgin and kopete are the two big ones
[02:39] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: there isn't one, afaik
[02:39] <thompa> Daisuke_Ido: do any work with web cam
[02:39] <stdin> shamrockaudio: Kmenu -> Run Command. type in "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list" and remove the line
[02:39] <lettuce> afaik?
[02:40] <Daisuke_Ido> i honestly don't know
[02:40] <stdin> lettuce: just look around the kmenu
[02:40] <Daisuke_Ido> as far as i know
[02:40] <satempler> to get rid of the autoremove listing for the codecs just highlight them in a terminal copy the listing then do sudo apt-get install then paste the listing
[02:40] <thompa> Daisuke_Ido: there wascould remember like gamuchi or something one other like yahoo , wish i
[02:40] <thompa> *touchpad error
[02:40] <shamrockaudio> stdn: tried to...says I don't have permission
[02:41] <stdin> shamrockaudio: that's what kdesu is for, it opens it as root
[02:41] <thompa> one problem cant find any wireless applet or anthing, since update
[02:41] <satempler> needs to be a kubuntu version of the restricted extras that will install libxine-extracodecs and libxvid
[02:41] <shamrockaudio> stdn: gotcha
[02:41] <shamrockaudio> thx
[02:42] <stdin> no problem :)
[02:42] <Daisuke_Ido> gyachi or something like that?
[02:42] <thompa> yes
[02:42] <Daisuke_Ido> thompa: http://www.phrozensmoke.com/projects/pyvoicechat/index_gyache.php
[02:43] <thompa> thanks
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> it hasn't been updated in some time though
[02:44] <Lars_G> plits?
[02:46] <soulrider> Daisuke_Ido: i havnt seen intelikey in a while...
[02:46] <thompa> anyone know how to get wireless applet back or what its called?
[02:47] <Daisuke_Ido> soulrider: pretty sure i saw him yesterday
[02:47] <stdin> thompa: you mean kwifimanager ?
[02:47] <Daisuke_Ido> wonder if anyone in here's running any sort of seen script...  doubtful
[02:47] <stdin> thompa: or knetworkmanager
[02:47] <stdin> thompa: there are 2, I think knetworkmanager is default tho
[02:47] <Daisuke_Ido> as of feisty, yes, knetworkmanager is the default
[02:48] <thompa> stdin: thanks i messed something up in ubuntu, maybe i removed it
[02:49] <lettuce> for kubuntu feisty, is there a way to more easily install video card drivers like in ubuntu? Or do I have to do it the old way?
[02:49] <thompa> it doesnyt help that im on new macbook with madwifi
[02:50] <stdin> thompa: feisty works great with my Atheros card (madwifi)
[02:50] <thompa> stdin: is it an intel macbook
[02:50] <stdin> no, toshiba satellite pro
[02:50] <hakaisou> question.
[02:50] <hakaisou> I'm running edgy right now, should I upgrade to fiesty?
[02:51] <thompa> stdin: there is only one beta driver for this and its ify
[02:51] <stdin> hakaisou: if you want to, you don't have to tho
[02:51] <thompa> intel duo core cant use stable mdwifi
[02:52] <stdin> glad I got the single core version then
[02:52] <hakaisou> are there any reasons why I should update?
[02:52] <stdin> hakaisou: newer, more up-to-data packages
[02:52] <lettuce> hakaisou: feisty is nice, I would suggest updating
[02:52] <hakaisou> ok then.
[02:52] <hakaisou> updating
[02:53] <stdin> supports newer hardware and newer features to
[02:53] <stdin> and better wifi support
[02:53] <lettuce> for kubuntu feisty, is there a way to more easily install video card drivers like in ubuntu? Or do I have to do it the old way?
[02:53] <levon> uplink anywere lol
[02:54] <hakaisou> I have a desktop with the router right on top of it, so wifi is no real advantage to me.  but good to know :D
[02:54] <Midspeed> hi everybody, i forgot how to configure my kubuntu system i only remember that i used to use dpkg-reconfigure
[02:54] <Midspeed> and i forgot the rest, can somebody help me
[02:54] <stdin> Midspeed: to configure what?
[02:54] <Midspeed> video card, sound card all that stuff
[02:54] <Daisuke_Ido> stdin: you seem to be in the know, why is support for rt2500 so poor now?  i recently went to a wired connection instead of wifi, but if i ever had to go wireless, i'd like to know i could.
[02:55] <Midspeed> where it asks about keyboard
[02:55] <levon> uplink hello
[02:55] <Daisuke_Ido> Midspeed: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:55] <Midspeed> thanks
[02:55] <levon> uplink you here
[02:55] <levon> uplink you here
[02:55] <Daisuke_Ido> levon: uplink left
[02:55] <levon> i noticed
[02:55] <levon> flood by accident lol
[02:56] <stdin> Daisuke_Ido: not sure, wifi drivers are notorious tho
[02:56] <lettuce> can someone give me the link for the kubuntu feisty video card drivers how to page?
[02:56] <soulrider> is anyone here using the aria2 script for pacman ?
[02:56] <stdin> !nv
[02:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:57] <soulrider> oops, wrong channel
[02:57] <lettuce> thanks
[02:57] <stdin> Daisuke_Ido: rt2500 driver is in beta stage too
[02:57] <Daisuke_Ido> ah ha
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> i remember it working perfectly in edgy, but it hasn't been a concern for a few months
[02:58] <Daisuke_Ido> impressive though, i still have decent signals coming from three local wifi routers without having my antenna hooked up
[03:13] <clinton> can someone help me mount a partition?
[03:13] <stdin> what's the problem ?
[03:13] <alias8604> new to linux, tried mounting, think i put it wrong command somehwere
[03:14] <stdin> what command did you put in?
[03:14] <alias8604> i dont remember anymore, but when i try to access the partition, it doesnt show any of the files
[03:14] <alias8604> tried unmounting it, but it says something about cannot create link
[03:15] <stdin> what's the device (eg /dev/had1), what's the file system and where do you want to mount it?
[03:16] <alias8604> its /dev/sda7 ntfs /media/sda7
[03:16] <stdin> dose the command "mount" show it as mounted?
[03:17] <alias8604> no
[03:17] <just-this-time> !l18n
[03:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about l18n - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:17] <stdin> alias8604: so the command you want is "sudo mount /dev/sda7 /media/sda7 -o umask=0000"
[03:18] <just-this-time> !l10n
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about l10n - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <ubuntu> oi
[03:18] <ubuntu> alguem tc em portugues ?
[03:18] <Daisuke_Ido> !pt | ubuntu
[03:18] <ubotu> ubuntu: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[03:18] <ubuntu> ok obrigado
[03:19] <alias8604> its telling me its already mounted or busy
[03:19] <stdin> post the output of the command
[03:19] <alias8604> mount: /dev/sda7 already mounted or /media/sda7 busy
[03:20] <lettuce> has anyone here ever set up beryl in kubuntu?
[03:20] <stdin> what does "mount | grep sda7" show then?
[03:20] <BloodyTux> hello
[03:20] <lettuce> does kubuntu fiesty have xgl built in like ubuntu does?
[03:21] <epimeth> I can't find *anything* on lcd brightness... only "acpi should handle it"
[03:21] <stdin> lettuce: ubuntu doesn't have xgl built in
[03:21] <epimeth> wtf?!?!?
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu doesn't have xgl built in, it has aiglx enabled
[03:21] <lettuce> feisty does
[03:21] <stdin> lettuce: nope
[03:21] <epimeth> anybody know how to brighten the screen if my fn+f10 isn't working?
[03:21] <alias8604> i put that in and it didnt do anything
[03:21] <Daisuke_Ido> two completely different things (that aim to accomplish the same task, though one is more elegant by far)
[03:22] <lettuce> yes it does, I installed beryl on it and it worked. I didn't install xgl and someone told me that xgl already came with fiesty
[03:22] <stdin> epimeth: something like: echo 100 | sudo tee /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness
[03:22] <dominic_> guys im having problem with apt-get update
[03:22] <stdin> lettuce: xgl no, aiglx yes
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: no, no it doesn't.  beryl runs on aiglx as well
[03:22] <Daisuke_Ido> whoever told you xgl came with feisty was wrong
[03:22] <lettuce> well I know
[03:23] <stdin> alias8604: post the output of mount to pastebin
[03:23] <stdin> !pastebin
[03:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:23] <BloodyTux> what's xgl? feels noobish
[03:23] <BloodyTux> !xgl
[03:23] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:23] <BloodyTux> ohg
[03:23] <BloodyTux> *oh
[03:23] <lettuce> so does kubuntu have aiglx insalled already?
[03:23] <epimeth> stdin: tee: /proc/acpt/videa/VGA/LCD/brightness: Invalid argument
[03:23] <dominic_> Fetched 27.6kB in 1s (21.3kB/s)
[03:23] <dominic_> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  muletivers/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[03:23] <dominic_> Reading package lists... Done
[03:23] <dominic_> W: GPG error: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl feisty-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[03:23] <dominic_> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:23] <dominic_> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:23] <stdin> lettuce: yeaah
[03:23] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: yes
[03:24] <dominic_> i get that problem now...
[03:24] <stdin> epimeth: not videa, video
[03:24] <alias8604> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18898/
[03:24] <BloodyTux> is X not in kubuntu? i compiled tweak and it said Xlibs not found
[03:24] <lettuce> beryl won't work for some reason. has anyone else here installed it on feisty?
[03:24] <epimeth> stdin: you know thats what I wrote :-p
[03:24] <Daisuke_Ido> BloodyTux: you need dev packages
[03:24] <BloodyTux> lettuce: i'm going to on sunday once i get my new graphics card
[03:25] <BloodyTux> oh
[03:25] <BloodyTux> how do i get those?
[03:25] <BloodyTux> whats the package names
[03:25] <BloodyTux> ?
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: uyes, beryl works fine on feisty
[03:25] <stdin> epimeth: take a look in the /proc/acpi/ directory for a file called "brightness"
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> BloodyTux: no idea, search adept
[03:25] <BloodyTux> k
[03:25] <dominic_> help me please...
[03:25] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: what sort of video care are you running?
[03:25] <dominic_> Fetched 27.6kB in 1s (21.3kB/s)
[03:25] <dominic_> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  muletivers/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[03:25] <dominic_> Reading package lists... Done
[03:25] <dominic_> W: GPG error: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl feisty-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[03:25] <dominic_> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[03:25] <dominic_> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:25] <stdin> !paste | dominic_
[03:25] <ubotu> dominic_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> !paste dominic_
[03:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste dominic_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> wow, i was late on that one
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> and screwed up, too :)
[03:26] <BloodyTux> nice dai
[03:26] <lettuce> i have an nvidia 6600
[03:26] <lettuce> and drivers are installed
[03:26] <just-this-time> pls remind me wher do I change/switch language of all the KDE desktop    ?
[03:26] <epimeth> stdin: its exactly where you said
[03:26] <Daisuke_Ido> system settings > regional settings
[03:26] <BloodyTux> my current card is a ATI 3d Rage Pro...
[03:26] <lettuce> is there a guide for installing beryl directly on kubuntu feisty?
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: sudo apt-get install beryl
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> that's all there is to it
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> what is the problem you're having with beryl?
[03:27] <Jucato> lettuce: see the guides in the topic in #ubuntu-effects
[03:27] <lettuce> I installed t but when I run it everything screws up and I can't drag windows and it just a big mess
[03:27] <stdin> dominic_: do this: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 49A120FD1135D466 ; gpg --export -a 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add -
[03:27] <Daisuke_Ido> define "everything screws up"
[03:28] <Daisuke_Ido> no window decorations?
[03:28] <dominic_> thanks stdin, im gonna try now
[03:28] <dominic_> nope it didn't work
[03:28] <LHoT> hello!
[03:28] <epimeth> stdin: its exactly where you said.... what do I do with it?
[03:29] <LHoT> hey _4str0
[03:29] <stdin> dominic_: what faild?
[03:29] <LHoT> you werent in #beryl
[03:30] <stdin> epimeth: you put the percentage of brightness in to it, eg "echo 50 |sudo tee /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness" would put it at 50%
[03:30] <dominic_> it didnt' resolve the apt-get update problem
[03:30] <ccherrett2> I am trying to connect to my wireless using WEP. with no encryption all is fine but I am struggling with the wep side of things
[03:30] <dominic_> ok, nevermind... but i get this new error
[03:31] <ccherrett2> i have tried using the gui in fiesty
[03:31] <dominic_> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/Release  Unable to find expected entry  muletivers/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[03:31] <dominic_> Reading package lists... Done
[03:31] <dominic_> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:31] <lettuce> it screws up by just not working. It's hard to describe. beryls come on and runs but there's no bare to drage things by and it isn't working properly at all
[03:31] <dominic_> sorry about the paste, hehe
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> !it doesn't work
[03:31] <ccherrett2> and it works to connect me as long as I have WEP turned off
[03:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it doesn't work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:31] <ccherrett2> anyone have any pointers for mew?
[03:31] <Daisuke_Ido> saying "it doesn't work" isn't very helpful
[03:31] <ccherrett2> me
[03:31] <LHoT> !nothing
[03:31] <ubotu> Saying "It says nothing", "It does nothing" is generally not very useful for troubleshooting.  Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:38] <LHoT> lol
[03:38] <xanatoscraven> heh
[03:38] <epimeth> stdin: I showed you the error I got
[03:38] <BloodyTux> :P
[03:38] <just-this-time> FYI https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html guide is lacking switchiing language info
[03:38] <lettuce> beryl begins to open, the bouncing ruby is under the mouse for along time but beryl never starts
[03:38] <epimeth> stdin: it didn't work the first time, it won't work the second :-)
[03:38] <lettuce> I'll try and re-install beryl
[03:38] <BloodyTux> pie :)
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> no need yet
[03:38] <Daisuke_Ido> open a terminal
[03:39] <BloodyTux> people who want to talk about pie meet in offtopic
[03:39] <lettuce> ok
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> sudo killall beryl-manager
[03:39] <LHoT> hmmmm.... !rtfm | me
[03:39] <Jucato> !locale | just-this-time
[03:39] <ubotu> just-this-time: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[03:39] <LHoT> awww
[03:39] <Jucato> just-this-time: how about that one?
[03:39] <LHoT> theres no !rtfm?
[03:39] <stdin> epimeth: run "cat /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness" to see the values it accepts
[03:39] <LHoT> that blows
[03:39] <epimeth> stdin: great... 50 and 90 *do* seem to work, but it doesn't change the brightness
[03:39] <lettuce> beryl-manager: no process killed
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> we're going to test this to see what happens, lettuce
[03:39] <Daisuke_Ido> beryl --replace
[03:39] <epimeth> levels:  100 57 0 14 28 43 57 71 86 100
[03:39] <epimeth> current: 0
[03:40] <epimeth> 50 and 90 worked, 100 doesn't
[03:40] <epimeth> but reguarless, the brightness doesn't change
[03:40] <LHoT> BloodyTux: has _4str0 been around lately?
[03:40] <epimeth> whoa
[03:40] <stdin> epimeth: same here, 100 never works, but brightness dose change for me
[03:40] <epimeth> 86 worked
[03:40] <epimeth> cool
[03:40] <BloodyTux> i dun tink to
[03:40] <epimeth> cheers stdin
[03:40] <BloodyTux> *toe
[03:40] <just-this-time> tyvm jucato
[03:40] <stdin> np :)
[03:40] <LHoT> ???
[03:41] <epimeth> but now how do I get my acpi buttons to work :-)
[03:41] <BloodyTux> haven't seen him since last night
[03:41] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: anything?
[03:41] <LHoT> okay
[03:41] <BloodyTux> i want lettuce!
[03:41] <BloodyTux> me me me!
[03:41] <lettuce> ok, everything passed and it says "reloading options"
[03:41] <Daisuke_Ido> k
[03:41] <Daisuke_Ido> got some wobbly windows?
[03:41] <lettuce> noooo!!
[03:41] <BloodyTux> :P'''
[03:41] <xanatoscraven> @.@
[03:42] <Daisuke_Ido> hehe head of lettuce...
[03:42] <BloodyTux> ewwwww ketchup
[03:42] <lettuce> that's my only head!
[03:42] <BloodyTux> hahahaha
[03:42] <Daisuke_Ido> you poor girl
[03:42] <BloodyTux> you don't even know how bad the sounded in my head
[03:43] <lettuce> the windows are doing the same thing that beryl did before
[03:43] <lettuce> :(
[03:43] <stdin> !msg | dominic_
[03:43] <ubotu> dominic_: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[03:43] <BloodyTux> "that's my only head"!!! HAHAHAHA
[03:43] <nflava> !glib
[03:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:43] <Daisuke_Ido> see if you can run beryl-manager from a terminal
[03:43] <stdin> !tar | dominic_
[03:43] <ubotu> dominic_: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[03:43] <xanatoscraven> shouldn't you be dripping wate--AAAAGH MY HAND WHY DID YOU DO THAT
[03:43] <BloodyTux> ???
[03:44] <dominic_> wow, it like automated bots.... fast and responsive. lmao
[03:44] <BloodyTux>  pie
[03:44] <BloodyTux> cool pie
[03:44] <xanatoscraven> lettuce, do you still not have window borders and whatnot?
[03:44] <dominic_> forget it
[03:44] <stdin> !offtopic | BloodyTux
[03:44] <Daisuke_Ido> xanatoscraven: that's the issue
[03:44] <ubotu> BloodyTux: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:44] <BloodyTux> :)
[03:44] <BloodyTux> i know i know
[03:44] <lettuce> more borders disapeared
[03:45] <BloodyTux> no one is in that channel though :(
[03:45] <lettuce> and the terminal still says"reloading options
[03:45] <stdin> BloodyTux: only 352 people
[03:45] <nflava> is glib a package i download? i was trying to ./configure a folder with xchat but i get an error about glib
[03:45] <xanatoscraven> go into a terminal and type "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf".
[03:45] <xanatoscraven> look for the line Section "Screen"
[03:45] <BloodyTux> no one is talking
[03:45] <Daisuke_Ido> xanatoscraven: i had him add the add visuals line
[03:45] <xanatoscraven> is the line Option         "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True" there at all?
[03:46] <xanatoscraven> oh.. crap, heh
[03:46] <Daisuke_Ido> :P
[03:46] <BloodyTux> btw theres 27 people in offtopic....
[03:46] <stdin> BloodyTux: not the point, -offtopic is for general chat, #kubuntu is for support only
[03:46] <Daisuke_Ido> next option is set the render mode to copy
[03:46] <BloodyTux> yea
[03:46] <lettuce> i can't get to anything. have to restart. be back in a bit
[03:46] <Daisuke_Ido> oi
[03:46] <Daisuke_Ido> he could have gotten kwin back just as easily :\
[03:46] <xanatoscraven> well, that's the first and last time I bother, lol
[03:46] <intelikey> how old is debian woody ?     cause one or more packages in kubuntu dapper are also in woody,   does that mean there has been no new development in the last 6 years ?
[03:47] <Daisuke_Ido> soulrider: told you he was around
[03:47] <alias8604> alright, im back, any more suggestions stdin?
[03:47] <nflava> anyone know anything about my Q?
[03:47] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: if you can get beryl-manager launched, i have an idea
[03:47] <soulrider> hey intelikey
[03:47] <lettuce> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf resulted in "failed to open device"
[03:47] <intelikey> soulrider
[03:47] <lettuce> ok, let me see
[03:47] <soulrider> intelikey: thats one thing that bothers me aobut ubuntu, getting an updated package is a biznich
[03:47] <stdin> alias8604: try a reboot (if you haven't already)
[03:48] <alias8604> reboot or relog?
[03:48] <stdin> alias8604: reboot
[03:48] <alias8604> k
[03:48] <lettuce> ok, beryl manager launched
[03:48] <soulrider> intelikey: how did the hoary to feisty upgrade go ?
[03:48] <intelikey> nflava build-essential
[03:48] <lettuce> btw, when i launch it fromt he terminal, i get an error report, do you want to see what it says?
[03:48] <Daisuke_Ido> pastebin it
[03:48] <soulrider> Daisuke_Ido: damn, you beat me
[03:48] <intelikey> soulrider i aborted before i got started.
[03:48] <soulrider> intelikey: oh
[03:49] <soulrider> intelikey: have you tried any other disrtos?
[03:49] <soulrider> i mean, packages in ubuntu tend to be old
[03:49] <lettuce> how do i pastebin stuff?
[03:49] <soulrider> !paste
[03:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:49] <intelikey> soulrider working on a dsl/woody thing right now
[03:49] <soulrider> intelikey: i see
[03:49] <soulrider> your machine is 686 right ?
[03:49] <lettuce> ok pasted
[03:50] <intelikey> soulrider yes  slack rh mdk      and some not so major distros
[03:50] <soulrider> now give si the link
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> url?
[03:50] <lettuce> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18900/
[03:50] <soulrider> intelikey: Arch? im running it now
[03:50] <stdin> !baddevice | lettuce
[03:50] <ubotu> lettuce: If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[03:50] <intelikey> no never see arch
[03:50] <soulrider> intelikey: why dont you try it out ?
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> okay, yeah, ignore that
[03:51] <intelikey> soulrider dialup
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: right-click the beryl manager icon and go to advanced beryl options > rendering path > copy
[03:51] <BloodyTux> i'm installing random junk, i need help
[03:51] <soulrider> intelikey: damn! how can you live with dualup?
[03:51] <soulrider> and intelikey the iso is really small actually
[03:51] <soulrider> BloodyTux: lol, what junk
[03:51] <soulrider> ?
[03:51] <intelikey> i not only can live with it.  i can live without it too....
[03:52] <lettuce> ok, done
[03:52] <BloodyTux> the kde-addon, kde-extra, that random junk
[03:52] <soulrider> intelikey: i cant live without internet
[03:52] <BloodyTux> kde-multimedia
[03:52] <soulrider> i mean, i use it a lot
[03:52] <BloodyTux> kde-graphics
[03:52] <clinton> ok, now its telling me it cant mount it
[03:52] <soulrider> i can live without it, its just annoying not to have it
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> lettuce: now right click and switch the window manager to beryl
[03:52] <lettuce> hey....dude
[03:52] <soulrider> BloodyTux: you know how to use adept right ?
[03:52] <jean-marie> hi
[03:52] <lettuce> it's working
[03:52] <BloodyTux> yea
[03:52] <lettuce> :D
[03:52] <soulrider> BloodyTux: arent the packages there ?
[03:52] <Daisuke_Ido> really now
[03:53] <BloodyTux> thats what i'm using and its taking FOREVER
[03:53] <lettuce> thank you so much for your help
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> you're welcome
[03:53] <Daisuke_Ido> glad i could be of service
[03:53] <BloodyTux> 87% for like 5 minutes
[03:53] <alias8604> stdin, now when i try to access it its saying its not mounted
[03:54] <stdin> alias8604: post the output of "sudo fdisk -l" to pastebin
[03:54] <ccherrett2> BloodyTux: I went through the trouble shooting and there was nothing in there that helped
[03:54] <stdin> alias8604: l is a lowercase L
[03:54] <BloodyTux> hmmmmmmmmmmm
[03:54] <BloodyTux> try pie
[03:54] <BloodyTux> or PANAMA CANAL
[03:54] <BloodyTux> sorry, really hyper, need to walk dog
[03:55] <ccherrett2> BloodyTux: this is not my first time setting up WEP but this round is causing me trouble
[03:55] <BloodyTux> like naiolith told me to do... i don't have a dog...
[03:55] <alias8604> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18901/
[03:55] <ccherrett2> anyone have any help?
[03:56] <just-this-time> WEP is a pain I opened wireless without password happy now
[03:56] <ccherrett2> just-this-time: so you run wide open?
[03:56] <Daisuke_Ido> ccherrett2: what exactly's the issue?  won't connect with wep?
[03:56] <just-this-time> well PC has its passwords you know
[03:56] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: yeahm
[03:56] <just-this-time> let neighbours use a little the net
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> ccherrett2: are you using knetworkmanager?
[03:57] <alias8604> just-this-time: sooooo, where do you live? =P
[03:57] <ccherrett2> as soon as wep is enabled I cannot get it to connect
[03:57] <stdin> alias8604: is there anything in /media/sda7 now?
[03:57] <just-this-time> haha far from you alias8604
[03:57] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: I was using a new one with fiesty
[03:57] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: let me check
[03:57] <Daisuke_Ido> the default one
[03:57] <ccherrett2> yes
[03:57] <BloodyTux> !windows
[03:57] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[03:57] <alias8604> theres stuff in the partition, but its not showing up
[03:57] <BloodyTux> :D
[03:57] <BloodyTux> i love that
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> standard wep (a 10 digit hex key)?
[03:58] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: yes it is knetworkmanager
[03:58] <stdin> alias8604: and what does "mountpoint /media/sda7" show?
[03:58] <alias8604> no such file or directory
[03:58] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: I was using  a higher encryption
[03:59] <ccherrett2> like 20 hex
[03:59] <ccherrett2> 128bit
[03:59] <ccherrett2> 26hex
[03:59] <alias8604> sorry, forgot the a, it says its not a mountpoint
[03:59] <BloodyTux> i used 123y3294236597437529834572304hex
[03:59] <BloodyTux> lot ofdecrypting
[03:59] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: I am using the right ESSID
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> try using a 10 digit hex as the passphrase
[04:00] <dominic_>  me... 14323465 bit hex only very secure
[04:00] <stdin> alias8604: ok, so try "sudo mount /dev/sda7 /media/sda7 -o umask=0000"
[04:00] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: I will that now
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> and (this is weird but) WEP 40/104-bit hex in knetworkmanager
[04:00] <dominic_> and it 5 letter ascii
[04:00] <alias8604> aha, its working now, ty
[04:01] <alias8604> will it auto mount on boot now?
[04:01] <stdin> alias8604: you can add a line to /etc/fstab to make it auto mount
[04:01] <alias8604> alright
[04:01] <stdin> alias8604: like "/dev/sda7 /media/sda7 ntfs defaults,umask=0000 0 0"
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> ccherrett2: i shall return shortly, don't go anywhere, i need a smoke
[04:02] <alias8604> should i just use the same syntax as the other ones?
[04:02] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: thanks just trying to connect
[04:02] <stdin> alias8604: yeah
[04:02] <stdin> alias8604: that was just a generic example
[04:02] <BloodyTux> zing process is that no matter what room youre wanting to straighten up, the rules are essentially the same  heres a four-step guide to get started, which also includes 13 strategies to prevent you from procrastinating along the way:
[04:02] <epimeth> GARRRR
[04:02] <BloodyTux> wtf
[04:02] <BloodyTux> sorry
[04:02] <BloodyTux> stupid klipper
[04:03] <BloodyTux> zing process is that no matter what room youre wanting to straighten up, the rules are essentially the same  heres a four-step guide to get started, which also includes 13 strategies to prevent you from procrastinating along the way:
[04:03] <BloodyTux> ARGGHHHHH
[04:03] <BloodyTux> configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:03] <BloodyTux> there we go
[04:03] <BloodyTux> thats my error
[04:04] <alias8604> ty very much stdin, bye, time for dinner
[04:04] <stdin> BloodyTux: install kde-devel, it installs everything you'll need
[04:04] <stdin> alias8604: no problem :)
[04:06] <ubuntu> :D
[04:07] <BloodyTux> :( my sis's internet isn't working with kubuntu 6.10
[04:07] <BloodyTux> she's using a dell laptop and our router isn't bein recognized
[04:07] <nflava> is kubuntu better than ubuntu?
[04:07] <BloodyTux> yes
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> ccherrett2: any luck?
[04:08] <nflava> hm
[04:08] <BloodyTux> DAI!!!! OMG LONG TIME NO SEE
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> i've been here for the past few hours
[04:08] <ubuntu> LINUX ON LAPTOP RULZ0R!
[04:08] <stdin> !caps
[04:08] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:08] <ccherrett2> Daisuke_Ido: no same trouble
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> bleh
[04:08] <LHo1> go away noob
[04:08] <BloodyTux> sush
[04:09] <Daisuke_Ido> that was about the only idea i had :\
[04:09] <BloodyTux> i am not a noob
[04:09] <ccherrett2> ok thanks for the help
[04:09] <nflava> can i upgrade my ubuntu or do i need to do a fresh install of kubuntu?
[04:09] <LHo1> not you
[04:09] <LHo1> although...
[04:09] <BloodyTux> :) good
[04:09] <LHo1> ^_^
[04:09] <ubuntu> sudo update-manager -d
[04:09] <LHo1> :P
[04:09] <BloodyTux> !dubuntu
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <BloodyTux> !pubuntu
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <BloodyTux> !cafebuntu
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cafebuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <LHo1> !goobuntu
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about goobuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <LHo1> it lies
[04:10] <trpr> abuse the bot more
[04:10] <BloodyTux> :( they don't know aany of them
[04:10] <BloodyTux> i was seeing if it had info on some derivatives
[04:10] <intelikey> hmmmm.  Removing sed ...
[04:10] <intelikey> dpkg: error processing sed (--purge):
[04:10] <trpr> msg it
[04:10] <intelikey>  /var/lib/dpkg/info/sed.prerm: line 9:  2555 Segmentation fault      install-info --quiet --remove sed
[04:10] <LHo1> Goobuntu it a modified Ubuntu made by Google.
[04:10] <LHo1> :)
[04:10] <ubuntu> "]
[04:10] <ubuntu> :]
[04:11] <LHo1> so its awesome in other words
[04:11] <BloodyTux> cool
[04:11] <intelikey> i guess i'll have to rm the prerm script.
[04:11] <LHo1> but they dont want to release it to the public for some reason
[04:11] <LHo1> :(
[04:12] <BloodyTux> :(
[04:12] <LHo1> wtf?
[04:12] <Jucato> it's not technically a "distribution", so they don't have to release anything
[04:12] <LHo1> it says my name is LHo1...
[04:12] <LHo1> what happened
[04:12] <LHo1> :(
[04:13] <LHoT> ...
[04:13] <LHoT> yay!
[04:13] <LHoT> :)
[04:15] <surgy> hi
[04:16] <jooshi> hi, I am using kubuntu feisty and for some reason firefox and konqueror both crash
[04:17] <hakaisou> !gnash
[04:17] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[04:17] <hakaisou> !flash64
[04:17] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[04:17] <hakaisou> !flash
[04:17] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[04:18] <mcgrady> hello
[04:21] <hakaisou> help!
[04:21] <hakaisou> I've lost all audio!
[04:21] <Dezine> Oi, friggin Windows, I turned it off last night and haven't used my pc.. turn it on and the windows boot loader is magically gone.. dumb thing..  I tried just fixing the mbr, nope, dumb thing
[04:22] <hakaisou> yea, only way to get it back would be a full reinstall
[04:22] <Dezine> Gonna have to learn GIMP or get used to photoshop 7 lol
[04:23] <hakaisou> M$ is a pain like that
[04:23] <raylu> er...
[04:23] <raylu> which bootloader do you want?
[04:23] <raylu> you shouldn't have to reinstall an entire OS for the bootloader
[04:23] <Dezine> no
[04:23] <Dezine> like
[04:23] <Dezine> er
[04:23] <Dezine> It's hard to explain
[04:24] <raylu> lol, I see that
[04:24] <Dezine> it's the boot loader for Windows but like, doing fixmbr doesn't work.
[04:24] <raylu> o.0
[04:24] <dominic_> i got to play avi on MKplayer. but the sound is so freaking low..... my sound runs fine in youtube and playing mp3 music.... any suggestion?
[04:24] <raylu> what's wrong with grub?
[04:25] <hakaisou> Grub redirects to the windows bootloader IIR correctly
[04:25] <Dezine> nuthin, I didn't have linux on here at the time
[04:25] <Jucato> ntldr
[04:25] <Dezine> plus windows keeps screwing up
[04:25] <hakaisou> Hi jucato
[04:25] <Jucato> hello hakai
[04:25] <Jucato> sou
[04:25] <hakaisou> long time no see
[04:25] <Jucato> (sorry bout that :P)
[04:25] <Dezine> For some reason it wouldn't show up in grub and I spent forever trying to
[04:25] <hakaisou> no it was my fault
[04:26] <hakaisou> Kubuntu went all screwy, and i said screw it for a while
[04:26] <dominic_> anyone can help me?
[04:26] <hakaisou> But Windows went screwy too, So I came back.  I got WoW to work, so I doubt that i'm going back to M$oft
[04:26] <raylu> dominic_, try digging through the MKplayer settings :P
[04:26] <Dezine> To be truthful I plan on getting a mac for my design work, leave linux on my pc and get a macbook
[04:27] <Dezine> Windows seems to break on me all the time
[04:28] <hakaisou> *shrug*
[04:28] <Dezine> restart, nothing crazy going on and I can't boot and I'm starting at a blue screen and a useless error message
[04:28] <Dezine> staring*
[04:29] <hakaisou> Hilariously enough, every time that I would reboot, Windows would say that it has recovered from a serious error.
[04:29] <Dezine> lol
[04:29] <Dezine> Well, I would look up the error message and find about ten different causes, most seem like guesses
[04:30] <Dezine> I want to get Photoshop CS on here, couldn't get it to work last time though
[04:32] <dominic_> holy shit... i did what i told you.. changed the audio driver output. restart it and FUCK my laptop was so Freaking loud... scared the shitty out of me... thanks raylu
[04:32] <Dezine> nice
[04:33] <dominic_> thats not nice dezine
[04:33] <Dezine> o, well, it is cuz it's fixed
[04:33] <dominic_> ok got problem again now.... when i play techpara.avi.... the video and audio are off sync...
[04:34] <dominic_> how do i fix that now. shit.
[04:35] <ejupin> dominic_:how bout we watch the lanuage.. i know youre excited, but... :)
[04:35] <dominic_> lol
[04:35] <dominic_> fine sorry
[04:35] <ejupin> dominic_:ty
[04:35] <intelikey> if i use an app built for a different libc subversion will it puke ?
[04:35] <Dezine> Hm, doesn't Linux have about as much market share as OS X? Adobe needs to start sporting some linux aps.
[04:37] <intelikey> i've got sed built for   libc-2.3.2.so   but  libc-2.3.6.so  is in use   what are the chances that sed will hose things ?
[04:40] <weswh-> i got a new monitor today...to run dual screen with my existing 17"...and I have them pretty decently matched color wise. but the one thing that is really amazing me - the new monitor, shows the KDE gears etc. in the background of the konquerer windows. but when I drag the window to the old screen, I can't see those gears AT ALL. I have not been able to find any other kind of color ref thing that the original monitor "doesn't see" or an
[04:40] <weswh-> and the shade of gray that it is...I can see in the color chart fine
[04:40] <intelikey> ok it's looking more and more like i may get this debian woody live CD to do what i want it too.   using some ubuntu dapper apps in it...   so it's not debian nor ubuntu it's now intelikeyd
[04:40] <epimeth> !paste
[04:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:41] <weswh-> I even took a screen shot, to see if it was some weird KDE setting - but even from the image...I can only see the gears on one screen
[04:41] <intelikey> epimeth paste at a single post ?    come on....
[04:41] <andrewt> hi
[04:41] <epimeth> intelikey: I meant to !paste > epimeth but hit enter by accident :-)
[04:41] <epimeth> I forgot the url
[04:41] <epimeth> :-p
[04:42] <intelikey> oh.   ok.  thought you did that in response to weswh-
[04:42] <intelikey> your bad is my bad.
[04:46] <vecina> Help! I cant change my refresh and 60 is killing my eyes :(
[04:47] <intelikey> !refresh
[04:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about refresh - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:47] <intelikey> !res
[04:47] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:48] <vecina> :/
[04:50] <dominic_> ok i get the same problem with other media player.... there like 1.5 delay playing avi videos
[04:56] <trpr> how do i change the wallpaper for each virtual desktop? i've been told i should be able to do it, but can't figure out where.
[04:56] <intelikey> right click the desktop
[04:58] <trpr> doh. he is gone. i hope he was going to tell me something useful. changing the wallpaper from Configure Desktop changes all of the desktops.. of course berl is running and kde only reports a single virtual desktop despite the pager showing 4... so i was figuring maybe it was berl specific?
[04:59] <Jucato> trpr: yes. it's beryl not working well with kde's virtual desktops
[04:59] <Link_Hero_of_Tim> crap, one letter to long
[04:59] <Link_Hero_of_Tim> ...
[05:01] <LHoT> I need help with Beryl.
[05:01] <redfive> LHoT, im running beryl
[05:01] <redfive> what do you need?
[05:02] <LHoT> hang on
[05:02] <LHoT> Ive had some help, let me organize...
[05:04] <LHoT> I'm running Kubuntu 7.04, with an ATI, I got a lot of help yesterday, and set up an "XGL" desktop session, and Im getting scrambled video,
[05:04] <LHoT> .*
[05:04] <eakbas> hi, my fresh feisty installed machine does fsck at every boot-up. why?
[05:04] <redfive> well, thats a bug i see on nvidia some times
[05:04] <eakbas> i had no problems with dapper and edgy on the same machin
[05:04] <redfive> oh really
[05:05] <redfive> did you tru AIGLX?
[05:05] <LHoT> me?
[05:05] <pputtabakula> Hi everybody..I installed recently (first time) Kubuntu 7.04..I have IBM thinkpad and I have connected an LG LCD (20LS7D model)
[05:05] <redfive> yes
[05:05] <LHoT> no.
[05:05] <redfive> you can do it on the fly
[05:06] <redfive> you have the libs installed for it?
[05:06] <LHoT> im a total noob to linux, so make it simple
[05:06] <pputtabakula> I would like to get the display on this LCD as secondary display, how can I do that as I see above model not being listed on LG
[05:06] <ko12upt> uplink?
[05:06] <redfive> ok, if you have beryl running, right click the beryl icon in systray
[05:06] <draik> What are some good games that I can get from my repos for Ubuntu 6.10
[05:06] <LHoT> one sec
[05:07] <trpr> frozen-bubble!
[05:07] <ko12upt> tremulous
[05:07] <LHoT> okay
[05:07] <LHoT> right click and then
[05:08] <ko12upt> uplink here
[05:08] <eakbas> why does feisty do disk check (fsck) at every boot-up?
[05:08] <draik> Thank you trpr and ko12upt
[05:08] <redfive> LHoT, this may messup your X session (be prepared to do CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE) then go down to "advanced beryl options" and then "rendering platform" and slect AIGXL
[05:08] <ko12upt> yep
[05:09] <LHoT> k
[05:09] <redfive> if you have the libs installed it should reload beryl
[05:09] <LHoT> k
[05:09] <LHoT> that it?
[05:09] <redfive> ya
[05:10] <LHoT> now log out then in in the XGL?
[05:10] <redfive> then try opening fivverent programs, or maby restart your box, beryl is bad about that
[05:10] <LHoT> k
[05:10] <LHoT> brb
[05:10] <redfive> just leave it
[05:10] <redfive> k
[05:16] <ko12upt> if anyone asks for me have them do a who is command and that should help them out
[05:16] <ko12upt> thanks
[05:17] <draik> whois ko12upt
[05:20] <billytwowilly> I usually use akgregator to read rss feeds, but it's become more convenient to have the rss feeds I read organized on a webpage, can anyone recommend a web based rss reader?
[05:21] <Jucato> billytwowilly: Google Reader?
[05:21] <Sleepy_Coder> Anyone else see a trend coming along?  Eventually all programs will be on someone else's computer and we'll all be opening our browsers to check the time or something.  last.fm....rss.... :p
[05:21] <LHoT> back
[05:22] <LHoT> redfive: you here?
[05:22] <billytwowilly> Jucato: nifty. Apparently google makes everything I need;)
[05:22] <Jucato> :)
[05:22] <draik> Jucato: HELLO
[05:23] <draik> Sorry, I forgot about the yelling
[05:23] <Jucato> hehe hi draik :)
[05:26] <draik> billytwowilly: Do you like Google Maps?
[05:26] <billytwowilly> draik: it's decent.  I really like google earth
[05:26] <draik> I love google earth.
[05:26] <billytwowilly> awesome. I'm using google reader for under 2 minutes and I already found a bug.
[05:27] <billytwowilly> hint hint, add the atom feed for your email and see what happens;)
[05:27] <draik> Do a google maps search for directions from "New York, New York" to "Paris, France"
[05:27] <DarkED> i'm having a problem with kdm
[05:27] <DarkED> i was running twinview through nVidia's config
[05:27] <draik> Read direction number 23
[05:27] <DarkED> now, i want to go back to single mon
[05:27] <maycolito> good night room
[05:28] <maycolito> I'm having some issues
[05:28] <DarkED> so i disconnected my second screen and set the config back to single screen
[05:28] <DarkED> but when I boot, kdm is really stretched
[05:28] <maycolito> when I turn off my computer the screen stays black but it will not power off.
[05:28] <maycolito> I can still switch between terminals but not do anything on them
[05:28] <maycolito> or login
[05:28] <DarkED> maycolito: try closing all open apps including beryl before going down for reboot
[05:29] <maycolito> I have
[05:29] <DarkED> maycolito: Beryl especially tends to make my system do that
[05:29] <maycolito> I have even used the shutdown -h -t 0
[05:29] <maycolito> how could i tell whether Beryl is open or not?
[05:29] <DarkED> maycolito: hmm... your system is obviously hanging on something... checked any logs?
[05:29] <maycolito> I don't know how to check them but I'd be hapy to
[05:29] <DarkED> maycolito: well generally you want to make KDM the display manager in beryl's rightclick config...
[05:30] <DarkED> maycolito: and sorry but I don't know which logs you should check :)
[05:30] <maycolito> alright
[05:30] <maycolito> I will check
[05:30] <LHo1> hello again
[05:31] <tony_> hey
[05:31] <tinyx> how do i play DVDs?
[05:31] <[_uplink_] > what you have ?
[05:31] <[_uplink_] > OS
[05:31] <redfive> hi
[05:32] <LHoT> put them in a DVD player
[05:32] <redfive> im here
[05:32] <LHoT> :P
[05:32] <LHoT> okay
[05:32] <[_uplink_] > lol.
[05:32] <jtt> draik, i like the directions from NY to Paris FR  neet!!
[05:32] <LHoT> ummm... it didnt work
[05:32] <hakaisou> damnit...
[05:32] <hakaisou> i need help with my sound.
[05:32] <redfive> same thing?
[05:32] <tinyx> Let me rephrase that so that I don't get a sarcastic response..
[05:32] <draik> jtt: #23
[05:32] <tinyx> How do I play a DVD using Kubuntu
[05:32] <LHoT> and now, everytime I start beryl, it freezes...
[05:32] <jtt> draik, yeah
[05:32] <billytwowilly> anyone have google reader setup and have a gmail account? Wanna try something out and confirm for me I found a bug in google reader?
[05:32] <Gamic> put the dvd in, start kaffeine, press play
[05:33] <tinyx> It gives me an error
[05:33] <Gamic> What error?
[05:33] <LHoT> tinyx: get better codecs
[05:33] <tinyx> It says the source can't be read
[05:33] <Gamic> is anything else reading the dvd drive at the time?
[05:33] <LHoT> tinyx: get automatix
[05:34] <tinyx> from where?
[05:34] <redfive> LHoT, ok, well just go back to the same place and clock XGL
[05:34] <redfive> *clock
[05:34] <LHoT> tinyx: http://www.getautomatix.com its a simple install, instructions in the wiki
[05:34] <redfive> *click
[05:35] <LHoT> I cant start beryl
[05:35] <[_uplink_] > O_O
[05:35] <LHoT> itll freeze my system
[05:35] <maycolito> DarkED: I was looking for beryl
[05:35] <maycolito> and I don't seem to have it
[05:35] <redfive> ok
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> !automatix
[05:35] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:36] <redfive> open superusermode konqueror
[05:36] <LHoT> tinyx: let me know when its installed
[05:36] <maycolito> DarkED: the only place I could find it was on /usr/share/app-install/desktop
[05:37] <redfive> LHoT, http://<IP_ADDRESS>/search?q=cache:hmmgmVg3vz4J:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-364264.html+reset+beryl+settings&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[05:37] <LHoT> I've installed lots of software with Automatix, I've never gotten a single error message
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> LHoT, but many people have, and very often they are a pain to fix
[05:38] <Gamic> !WorksForMe|LHoT
[05:38] <ubotu> LHoT: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:38] <tinyx> Forget it.. It's late, I'm tired..
[05:39] <tinyx> As a great as Ubuntu is...  I have a bit of a problem with default event creation... can anyone give me a hand?
[05:40] <LHoT> hitmanWilly: Ive actually never heard anyone complain about it
[05:40] <crimsun> hakaisou: what's the matter?
[05:40] <Gamic> tinyx: usually it doesn't. however dvd encryption is not governed by the same freedoms as other free software
[05:40] <hakaisou> it's not broadcasting as far as i can tell.
[05:40] <hakaisou> stuff is working, but no sound comes out.
[05:40] <LHoT> Gamic: and thats why god invented reverse engineering >_>
[05:40] <LHoT> lol
[05:40] <tinyx> I know, but maybe if Microshit wasn't so uptight and money hungry... they could work together with open source projects to better their products
[05:40] <crimsun> hakaisou: please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> LHoT,  09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0  :P
[05:41] <LHoT> :P
[05:41] <tinyx> instead of cough*stealing*cough
[05:42] <Perrako> No one can help? Dang.
[05:42] <LHoT> hitmanWilly: have you actually tried automatix?
[05:42] <icujc> good evening.. Anyone experiencing issues with openoffice not opening word dos?  I have uninstalled and reinstalled it twice now and same issue openoffice crashes...
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> LHoT, actaully, no, i prefer to know exactly what and how its being installed on my system
[05:43] <lettuce> hello
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> LHoT, ive just heard of a lot of problems with it
[05:44] <LHoT> Then don't try to discourage others from trying it untill you use it.
[05:44] <LHoT> Alright, but again...
[05:44] <LHoT> don't try to discourage others from trying it untill you use it
[05:44] <hitmanWilly> LHoT, i just don't want people who don't know what they're getting into borking their systems
[05:44] <lettuce> I got beryl to work, but it's very laggy. My machine is plenty powerful enough to handle it though. Is there anything I can do?
[05:45] <LHoT> kill it with fire...
[05:45] <LHoT> [/7chan]
[05:45] <LHoT> lol
[05:45] <LHoT> :)
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> actually, i may try it on the lappy just to see what its all about
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> nothing vital on there...
[05:46] <LHoT> :)
[05:46] <LHoT> give it a shot and report back.
[05:49] <raylu> lettuce, try the wiki about beryl
[05:50] <LHoT> hitmanWilly: When installing it, install it in Gnome. I couldn't get it to install right in KDE, but everything works fine on my machine.
[05:50] <lettuce> k
[05:50] <lettuce> also, what's the difference between compiz and beryl?
[05:52] <LHoT> hitmanWilly: or do it manually, which ever you preffer.
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> LHoT, the lappy's running xubuntu
[05:54] <LHoT> then Id recomend manually
[05:54] <hitmanWilly> LHoT, its already installed.
[05:55] <LHoT> oh
[05:55] <LHoT> okay
[05:55] <lettuce> *doesn't liek gnome either
[05:55] <LHoT> lol
[05:55] <lettuce> lol
[05:55] <hitmanWilly> testing it now...
[05:56] <lettuce> why do they even call it gnome? what does a gui have to do with mythical nature-loving creatures
[05:56] <TwilightPrincess> damnit, that name is too long
[05:56] <Admiral_Chicago> !offttopic
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offttopic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> ok, it seems to work ok for regular apps...
[05:57] <dsmith_> Read something interesting today. Linus T., the creator of Linux, stated that ppl should use KDE instead of Gnome desktop.
[05:57] <LHoT> Automatix is how I got flash working, I'm running a 64 bit
[05:57] <hitmanWilly> hmmm....\
[05:57] <LHoT> I already do
[05:57] <redfive> im running amd64
[05:57] <LHoT> :|
[05:57] <LHoT> same same
[05:57] <redfive> feisty is good
[05:58] <LHoT> yep
[05:58] <redfive> LHoT, get flash and java to work?
[05:58] <dsmith_> lettuce: Ubuntu should adopt the preying mantis as a mascot..
[05:58] <dsmith_> :)
[05:59] <LHoT> yeah
[05:59] <LHoT> with automatix
[05:59] <jtt> anyone know a good URL that will test most areas of your java installation?
[05:59] <blaker2> i think kubuntu is ugly. -_-
[06:00] <blaker2> i will take xubuntu or ubuntu first
[06:00] <blaker2> heck, ill take edubuntu first
[06:00] <LHoT> I think Xubuntu is ugly
[06:00] <LHoT> but its fast
[06:00] <LHoT> like...
[06:00] <LHoT> OMG that is t3h u83r f4s7
[06:00] <LHoT> lol
[06:00] <dsmith_> kubuntu is *NOT* ugly...lol.
[06:01] <dsmith_> xubuntu has its place though
[06:01] <dsmith_> so does gnome
[06:01] <blaker2> ummm something about kubuntu it just doesnt look good
[06:01] <blckcts> guys, do u know how to use a .cpp file? its a fix for a plugin i compiled earlier.
[06:01] <dsmith_> every version looks almost the same anyway
[06:02] <dsmith_> i can make gnome look like kde or vice versa
[06:02] <LHoT> yeau
[06:02] <LHoT> yeah*
[06:02] <LHoT> its smooth and curvy...
[06:02] <LHoT> lol
[06:02] <blaker2> kde is shit
[06:02] <blaker2> especially kde apps
[06:02] <blaker2> like kopete
[06:02] <blaker2> lol
[06:02] <LHoT> redfive: if you want to get Java and flash working, let me know
[06:03] <blaker2> how many of you use beryl?
[06:03] <dsmith_> <---
[06:03] <blaker2> press 123 if you use beryl
[06:03] <LHoT> blaker2: please stop flaming KDE.
[06:03] <blaker2> is beryl still beta?
[06:04] <blaker2> I NEVER FLAMED IN MY LIFE I RESENT THE ACCUSATIONS
[06:04] <blaker2> YOU ARE RACIST SIR
[06:04] <LHoT> (10:59:47 PM) blaker2: i think kubuntu is ugly. -_-
[06:04] <uplink> ???
[06:04] <dsmith_> o.O
[06:04] <blaker2> oh lol
[06:04] <blaker2> thats not flaming
[06:04] <LHoT> (11:02:32 PM) blaker2: kde is shit
[06:04] <LHoT> (11:02:55 PM) blaker2: especially kde apps
[06:04] <LHoT> (11:02:55 PM) blaker2: like kopete
[06:04] <LHoT> (11:02:55 PM) blaker2: lol
[06:04] <blaker2> i thought flaming was like insulting people
[06:04] <LHoT> that is
[06:04] <redfive> LHoT; how do you do it?
[06:04] <blaker2> are u a kde dev?
[06:05] <redfive> kubuntu is ugly?
[06:05] <redfive> then change it!
[06:05] <LHoT> no
[06:05] <LHoT> but I use KDE
[06:05] <uplink> -.-"
[06:05] <redfive> wany to see a screen of my desktop?
[06:05] <uplink> KDE = Kubuntu ?
[06:05] <LHoT> redfive: do you have automatix on your system?
[06:05] <redfive> no can i install it?
[06:06] <LHoT> yes
[06:06] <dsmith_> of course you can install it
[06:06] <blaker2> hmm, i just hit some idiot off efnet with my botnet
[06:06] <blaker2> lol
[06:06] <LHoT> what *ubuntu do you use
[06:06] <LHoT> ?
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> LHoT, ok, so far it works...but i see where it could cause problems for folks
[06:06] <blaker2> xubuntu 7.04 x65
[06:06] <blaker2> the best one
[06:06] <LHoT> not you
[06:06] <LHoT> redfive
[06:06] <LHoT> lol
[06:07] <blaker2> dude im high
[06:07] <LHoT> ...
[06:07] <blaker2> calm down
[06:07] <blaker2> simmer down
[06:07] <lettuce> chillin
[06:07] <LHoT> you must be thinking theres a 65 bit architecture
[06:07] <LHoT> lol
[06:07] <LHoT> :-D
[06:07] <blaker2> a pothead and a ddos botnet do not mix well :-\
[06:07] <redfive> i use kubuntu, feisty 7.04
[06:07] <redfive> with updates
[06:07] <LHoT> k
[06:07] <blaker2> lots of people without access to the internet just for saying 'hi' on irc
[06:07] <blaker2> lol
[06:08] <lettuce> dude beryl is pissing me off, does anyone else have a good system, yet incredibly laggy when running beryl?
[06:08] <redfive> pothead?
[06:08] <blaker2> mine is good when running beryl and when not running it
[06:08] <LHoT> redfive: 64 bit?
[06:08] <blaker2> hmmm
[06:08] <redfive> thers times when beryl will get that way, i close windows and it start working well again
[06:08] <blaker2> like what is lagging?
[06:08] <redfive> yes
[06:08] <redfive> amd64
[06:08] <LHoT> k
[06:08] <dsmith_> lettuce: sometimes, but I made some changes and it runs smooth now
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> brb
[06:08] <redfive> i get it on large windows, sometimes on the network
[06:09] <lettuce> what changes! share your ways with me!
[06:09] <LHoT> redfive: http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Installing_Automatix2_on_.28K.2CX.29Ubuntu_7.04_i386.2CAMD64_.28Feisty.29
[06:09] <LHoT> let me know when its installed
[06:09] <redfive> beryl seems to perfoems equal your GPU, if you have agood one then you can do alot
[06:09] <lettuce> Once beryl is stable and more official, that will be an awesome day
[06:09] <blaker2> is the 7300 good enough?
[06:10] <blaker2> it seems to run ok but does it slow down after a bit?
[06:10] <LHoT> I have a radeon, and beryl haet radeon
[06:10] <LHoT> :(
[06:10] <lettuce> i have an nvidia 6600 card
[06:10] <blaker2> how does it run on that lettuce
[06:10] <blaker2> cuz mine is 7300, they're about equal i think
[06:10] <Midspeed> Does anybody know of any good graphic programs for creating something like a logo, or for making a banner with nifty fonts and effects?
[06:10] <blaker2> gimp
[06:10] <LHoT> GIMP
[06:10] <LHoT> :)
[06:11] <blaker2> but i would just dual boot into windows and use photoshop
[06:11] <blaker2> sorry :-\
[06:11] <blaker2> no good linux alternative to photoshop i have to say
[06:11] <brian_> photoshop or GIMP
[06:11] <LHoT> I would use crossover and use photoshop
[06:11] <brian_> Gimp ain't bad instead of PS
[06:11] <lettuce> well it runs like sh*t under kubuntu, but I've installed sabayon on this machine before and it worked beautifully
[06:11] <blaker2> whats crossover? is it better than wine?
[06:11] <LHoT> no reason to support a monopoly
[06:11] <LHoT> yeah
[06:11] <LHoT> I installed it with...
[06:11] <lettuce> gimp is supposed to be very good
[06:12] <LHoT> someone guess
[06:12] <Midspeed> thank you everybody
[06:12] <lettuce> I haven't used it very much but a friend told me it has almost all the features PS has
[06:12] <brian_> I just installed VMware Server (free software) and it runs a really nice virtual machine.    I just installed linux on my laptop to see if I can get all my crap to run smoothly before putting it on the big machine
[06:16] <blaker2> wow
[06:16] <blaker2> how come the 8500gt is only 100 bucks?
[06:16] <blaker2> that sounds so cheap
[06:16] <Midspeed> i know
[06:17] <blaker2> i just payed 50 for a 7300 a month ago
[06:17] <Midspeed> its about that ddr3, ddr2 and plain dd2
[06:17] <Midspeed> sorry plain ddr
[06:17] <blaker2> when i built this machine
[06:17] <LHoT> i need a duo core for my laptop
[06:17] <Midspeed> i paid 130 bucks for mine and its 512mb ddr2
[06:17] <lettuce> octcore? really?  Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:20] <blaker2> copperman
[06:20] <blaker2> !offtopic
[06:20] <brian_> why are you named after an 80's yuppie blake?
[06:20] <lettuce> !skeet
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skeet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <lettuce> lmao
[06:20] <hakaisou> shut up blaker
[06:20] <blaker2> !linux
[06:20] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[06:20] <LHoT> does AMD have any quads?
[06:20] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: hey there!
[06:21] <lettuce> they are comming out with them soon
[06:21] <blaker2> !nigger
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nigger - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <LHoT> :)
[06:21] <LHoT> lol
[06:21] <brian_> wtf?
[06:21] <lettuce> that's why intel lowered the price of their quads dramatically
[06:21] <hakaisou> ban blake
[06:21] <LHoT> !ubotu
[06:21] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:21] <blaker2> what 4
[06:21] <LHoT> lol
[06:21] <Admiral_Chicago> !ops
[06:21] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[06:21] <blaker2> !ops
[06:21] <nixternal> yo
[06:21] <LHoT> !spaceballs
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spaceballs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <blaker2> !matrix
[06:21] <LHoT> !melbrooks
[06:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about matrix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about melbrooks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <LHoT> !lol
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <hitmanWilly> what'd i miss?
[06:22] <brian_> thank you
[06:22] <LHoT> !offtopic
[06:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[06:22] <lettuce> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017 just look at that price
[06:22] <nixternal> LHoT: pleast stop
[06:22] <lettuce> they used to be $1000
[06:22] <LHoT> I did
[06:22] <dsmith_> thank you, annoying lil bugger he was
[06:22] <hakaisou> how do I change my default sound card in ALSA?
[06:23] <crimsun> hakaisou: asoundconf set-default-card
[06:23] <crimsun> hakaisou: use ``asoundconf list'' first
[06:23] <LHoT> is it 64 bit?
[06:24] <dsmith_> free info,  http://www.beginlinux.org/
[06:26] <lettuce> i need to mount my other partitions, what do i do?
[06:27] <hakaisou> aggh!  All I'm getting is static
[06:27] <hakaisou> wait...
[06:27] <hakaisou> id10t error
[06:28] <hakaisou> there we go.  thanks for the help
[06:33] <AASR-NMJ-32> good evening
[06:33] <LHoT> damn
[06:34] <LHoT> 2 GB (ddr2) ram for $99
[06:34] <LHoT> 1 GB on 2 chips
[06:35] <Alonea> Does Ark put back together split .rar files?
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> evening AASR-NMJ-32
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> LHoT: please stay on topic
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> lettuce: look for the command mount
[06:36] <LHoT> oh yeah
[06:36] <LHoT> sorry
[06:37] <rigoberto> HOOOOOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[06:41] <Defdef> Hello, I am new to linux, and just finished a KDE installation. I have downloaded the appropriate files for Opera and am now trying to install it. Can someone walk me through this?
[06:41] <Alonea> ummm...I guess ark doesn't...anyone know how to extract one of those split up rar files or get winrar in linux? (when I tried in ark, said something about a -CRC failed)
[06:42] <Defdef> I learn fast I promise   =)
[06:42] <Admiral_Chicago> Defdef: opera is available in the commercial repository (it is free though)
[06:42] <Admiral_Chicago> !opera
[06:42] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[06:43] <UltraBread> does kubuntu comes with tetris
[06:44] <crazy_bus> not by default but you can install ksirtet from kdegames
[06:44] <Jucato> lol so that's what ksirtet is!!
[06:45] <crazy_bus> on windows Truecrypt is really good and easy to use.  The program is also on linux but unfortunatly the deb they provide doesn't match my kernal.  I don't really want to download 50mbs of files in order to compile it so I was wondering if there were any other good linux encryption programs.
[06:47] <eams> ubotu epson cx3700
[06:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about epson cx3700 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <Defdef> You know I am still unable to get this opera installation figured out...The link to the ubuntu page didnt help at all
[06:48] <Defdef> i have the files downloaded, and i went to add remove programs, but it is not listed there
[06:48] <Defdef> this should be simple, no?
[06:49] <eams> Somebody knows what can I do to install my epson stylus cx3700 in feisty???
[06:50] <Jucato> Defdef: if you downloaded a .deb file, then it should be as simple as Right-click -> Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[06:50] <crimsun> Defdef: do you have the edgy-commercial repo enabled?
[06:50] <crimsun> Version: 9.20-20070409.6ubuntu2
[06:50] <Jucato> or that one ^^^^^ :)
[06:50] <intelikey> !printer | eams
[06:50] <ubotu> eams: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:50] <crimsun> Defdef: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[06:50] <Defdef> oh WOW crimsum, you are right, that is SMOOTH
[06:50] <Defdef> thank you!
[06:51] <eams> intelikey, bash: !printer: event not found
[06:51] <intelikey> :)
[06:55] <Alonea> ok, I am not very familiar with archive files, but I am trying to put this rar file back together and I am getting a CRC failed. What does that mean?
[06:56] <intelikey> Alonea reverse order ?
[06:56] <hakaisou> stupid question:  How can i tell what version of KDE I have?
[06:57] <fulat2k> seems like one of your multi-file rar archive is corrupted.  try doing a unrar t <archive name> to test the files
[06:57] <Alonea> intelikey: reverse order? what do you mean? there is the main .rar file and then I think its .r01, and so on till .r35
[06:57] <Jucato> hakaisou: Help menu -> About KDE
[06:58] <Alonea> fulat2k: ok, will try that.
[06:59] <hakaisou> thanks jucato
[06:59] <intelikey> failing the CRC means the check sum and the file don't match.   i.e.  file corruption or/ file parts in wrong order
[07:00] <Alonea> intelikey: ah. ok. well, when this test thing finishes I will tell you what it says
[07:00] <AbortD> !envy
[07:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:00] <AbortD> how do i find that program?
[07:00] <Alonea> ok, the crc thing is showing on the number 10 file
[07:01] <Alonea> AbortD: Google it. gimmie a sec and i will get you the link
[07:01] <intelikey> then that part of the file is corrupt.  unless you have a backup that's probably a disaster already made.
[07:02] <UltraBread> how do i watch pron on kubuntu
[07:02] <Alonea> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:02] <Alonea> intelikey: its a download that just finished.
[07:02] <fulat2k> Alonea: i get that sometimes when copying stuff to my external hard disk.  already happened 3 times
[07:02] <vow20> go to pornotube
[07:02] <intelikey> Alonea then get that section again.
[07:02] <AbortD> well this sucks since envy doesnt work with feisty.....
[07:03] <AbortD> looks like im screwed
[07:03] <Alonea> AbortD: what do you mean it does not work with Fiesty?
[07:03] <Jucato> hm... have you tried doing it the normal way?
[07:03] <AbortD> thats what this forum says
[07:03] <Alonea> AbortD: it does! I have it and it worked great
[07:03] <vow20> ati 2950 doesn't seem to work with feisty either
[07:03] <Jucato> you don't absolutely need envy to install nvidia drivers
[07:03] <vow20> 9250
[07:03] <AbortD> hm
[07:03] <AbortD> oh
[07:04] <AbortD> maybe if google stops sending me to crappy pages that just explain envy
[07:04] <Alonea> AbortD: did you see the link i posted? http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:04] <AbortD> oh no
[07:04] <Jucato> envy is a script that alberto made to automate the installation of nvidia drivers from nvidia.com
[07:04] <Jucato> that is, it doesn't use the official ubuntu-packaged nvidia drivers
[07:04] <AbortD> you are not using the unstable version are you?
[07:05] <Alonea> intelikey: i am going to try the "checking data integrity" thing on bittorent. It appears there is a bad chunk so far in the check.
[07:05] <Jucato> unstable version of?
[07:05] <AbortD> envy
[07:05] <Jucato> no I don't use envy at all
[07:05] <fulat2k> anyone knows why knetworkmanager doesn't work well with my dlink dwl-g122 b1 usb wifi stick although it's detected?  i had to manually configure it in the interfaces file.
[07:06] <Jucato> I use the official nvidia drivers from Ubuntu
[07:06] <AbortD> i meant Alonea :)
[07:06] <Jucato> ah ok
[07:06] <Alonea> AbortD: Me? As far as I know, no. I have an ATI card, so my drivers are unstable because its fglrx and ati..and well...hell
[07:06] <AbortD> i just wish ubuntu would sync my screen
[07:08] <intelikey> !diversion steak but no bread.
[07:08] <Alonea> intelikey: yup. It seems there is indeed a bad chunk which it will redownload here in a minute after it finishes checking the rest of it. Glad it wasn't a program issue as I just installed the GUI version of Winrar on wine
[07:09] <intelikey> !rar
[07:09] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:09] <intelikey> !info unrar-free
[07:09] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[07:10] <Alonea> intelikey: I have it, but I like gui most the time, and I just wanted to try a different program to see if it worked.
[07:10] <intelikey> carry on then.
[07:10] <Alonea> I shall
[07:16] <hakaisou> ok then this sucks....
[07:16] <hakaisou> i'm stuck in 640x480 right now...
[07:16] <hakaisou> is there a command line method of changing the current resolution?
[07:17] <Jucato> !xconfig
[07:17] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[07:17] <Admiral_Chicago> !res
[07:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:18] <Jucato> tralalalala
[07:19] <abortd> bah humbug
[07:20] <intelikey> bah bah black sheep...
[07:20] <abortd> bah bah blue sheep...
[07:21] <intelikey> have you any stool ?
[07:21] <Jucato> O.o
[07:21] <Jucato> I don't like the answer to that
[07:21] <jimmy_> Does anyone know when an official thunderbird2 package will be released?
[07:21] <intelikey> blue sheep..... ?
[07:21] <Jucato> 3 bags full :)
[07:21] <abortd> black sheep?
[07:21] <intelikey> a **** pot full....
[07:22] <hakaisou> it worked
[07:22] <hakaisou> thanks jucato
[07:22] <Jucato> no prob :)
[07:22] <Alonea> yay! it extracted!
[07:22] <redfive> well, so i loke automatrix2 alot
[07:23] <gordonr> [   42.052081]  dvb-usb: DViCO FusionHDTV5 USB Gold successfully initialized and
[07:23] <gordonr> connected.
[07:23] <gordonr> But I can't scan for channels
[07:25] <redfive> ya how do you ge a chanel list with konversation
[07:25] <gordonr> Yes...but that won't help me get my HDTV OTA channels
[07:25] <Jucato> redfive: there's not pre-made channel list. you'll have to find out for yourself or search/list all the channels in freenode (can cause quite a lag on your end)
[07:26] <raylu> redfive, /list, but I recommend not doing it.
[07:26] <intelikey> /list can be filtered
[07:27] <Jucato> konversation has a dialog box for filtering and listing channels
[07:27] <Jucato> Window -> Channel List for <server> (or F5)
[07:27] <redfive> oh, this is on freenode?
[07:27] <raylu> redfive,yes
[07:28] <redfive> so netsplit might have the info
[07:28] <dsmith_> what is a good program to preform backups with ubuntu?
[07:28] <abortd> !pastebin
[07:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:28] <redfive> backup ubuntu
[07:28] <intelikey> or debian.net   one leg is both the same.
[07:28] <dsmith_> "backup ubuntu" is a program?
[07:28] <redfive> whats debain frontend?
[07:28] <abortd> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18911/
[07:28] <abortd> i try to install compiz after adding the repos and it does that
[07:28] <abortd> can someone help me?
[07:29] <redfive> do a search in adept dor backup
[07:29] <abortd> me?
[07:29] <Zamuray> hello all, i'm taking from chile. id installed kubuntu few days ago, first time trying, and id loved it (sorry my english)
[07:29] <redfive> im in the middle fo a backup or i would check
[07:29] <redfive> kubuntu is the best
[07:29] <abortd> it says its installed
[07:29] <dsmith_> keep?
[07:30] <raylu> abortd, you probably want compiz-kde
[07:30] <intelikey> abortd case.
[07:30] <abortd> nah im in gnome
[07:30] <intelikey> raylu case  ^
[07:30] <raylu> oh, there actually is a "compiz"
[07:30] <raylu> there's a compiz-gnome too
[07:31] <intelikey> raylu he tried Compiz
[07:31] <raylu> yes, I see
[07:31] <redfive> what ever happend to konstruct?
[07:31] <abortd> i tried compiz too
[07:31] <abortd> non capital
[07:31] <raylu> !konstruct
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konstruct - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <abortd> in synaptic it says its installed
[07:32] <redfive> it used to install the latest KDE
[07:32] <jimmy_> So I have this minor problem in Beryl and KDE, when I start Beryl, the adept update manager and sometimes other programs that belong in the panel show up in another mini-window. Any ideas on what might be happening?
[07:32] <raylu> abortd, perhaps it is then...have you tried running it?
[07:32] <Taladan> allllrighty...where can I send a feature request?
[07:32] <abortd> how ?!
[07:32] <abortd> i see no icons!
[07:32] <raylu> abortd, I've never used it before, but try just "compiz" in a console
[07:32] <abortd> did
[07:33] <jimmy_> abortd, have you tried beryl?
[07:33] <abortd> well i got compiz running
[07:33] <abortd> i guess it has no gui
[07:34] <jimmy_> Beryl and compiz are the same thing now, but beryl is more advanced and easier to navigate
[07:34] <abortd> i installed it raylu
[07:34] <abortd> brb
[07:34] <raylu> then run that...
[07:34] <intelikey> You appear to be spamming the pastebin.  If ynot attempting to spam, please enable javascript so you can pass the antispam ch
[07:34] <Taladan> also, I don't know if any devs are on here right now, but asoundconf's list option is apparently borked in the script.
[07:34] <dsmith_> join #backup
[07:35] <dsmith_> ooops
[07:35] <intelikey> can't use the ubuntu paste bin  from a console...   how dope.
[07:35] <dede> My Amarok cannt play any mp3 why?
[07:37] <intelikey> i seem to have dpkg totally borked this time.    http://pastebin.ca/468538
[07:37] <intelikey> !mp3 | dede
[07:37] <ubotu> dede: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:39] <raylu> intelikey...can't you just reinstall festival?
[07:39] <intelikey> raylu and how's that ?
[07:39] <raylu> it says it needs to reinstall, right?
[07:40] <raylu> i'm going to guess it's not in a repos?
[07:40] <intelikey> raylu i have that package.  it's from ubuntu dapper, the system in question is DSL i.e. debian woody.
[07:40] <raylu> i thought the issue was "E: The package festival needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."
[07:40] <intelikey> i can't seem to remove it or reinstall it.
[07:41] <intelikey> it is.
[07:41] <intelikey>  that's from a apt-get install -f
[07:41] <raylu> this is going to sound really stupid but... apt-get reinstall festival
[07:41] <intelikey> which is sujested by the error message of the   dpkg -i --reinstall package.deb
[07:42] <intelikey> tty24 [root$~]  apt-get reinstall festival
[07:42] <intelikey> E: Invalid operation reinstall
[07:42] <intelikey> tty24 [root$~]
[07:42] <intelikey> yeah it kinda did... thought i'd test it anyway
[07:43] <raylu> o.0?
[07:43] <raylu> aptitude does reinstall
[07:43] <raylu> it also should have a command that downloads the package and nothing else
[07:43] <raylu> (i don't use apt-get)
[07:44] <intelikey> well aptitude doesn't come with DSL  so that's not really an option.
[07:45] <intelikey> and until i can get dpkg streightened out nothing can be installed/removed.
[07:46] <raylu> ouches.
[07:46] <crimsun> apt-get --reinstall install
[07:46] <intelikey> http://pastebin.ca/468543  the full report...
[07:47] <intelikey> i think i'll hack the scripts and force it to finish installing
[07:47] <crimsun> the semantics for aptitude are a bit different; it won't accept reinstall as an operation for a package not currently installed.  apt-get doesn't care.
[07:52] <intelikey> it's the dangd busybox 'invoke-rc.d' command
[07:52] <intelikey> invoke-rc.d festival start
[07:52] <intelikey> festival: applet not found
[07:53] <intelikey> the init.d/festival is there and should work correctly.
[07:55] <Jucato> is there a sort of file splitter for linux/kde?
[07:57] <intelikey> Jucato dd can
[07:57] <Jucato> hm. ok. I'll look into it...
[07:57] <Jucato> (basically I want to be able to split some DVD ISO's into < 1GB chunks so I can transfer them to a laptop that has a DVD burner...)
[08:00] <intelikey> X=0 ;Q=1 ;P=0 ;while dd if=source.file of=dest.$P bs=<size> count=$Q skip=$X;do X=$(($X+1)) ;Q=$(($Q+1)) ;P=$(($P+1)) ;done
[08:01] <intelikey> not pretty.    test on something small first.
[08:01] <Jucato> aah... the beauty of bash :)
[08:01] <ubuntu> quick question..what would make kubuntu 7.04 boot from a dvd into safemode but not normal mode?
[08:01] <Jucato> or is it perl?
[08:01] <intelikey> bash
[08:01] <Jucato> oh.... I found out about "split" :D
[08:01] <fulat2k> Jucato: you can optionally install 7zip and split the iso :)
[08:01] <HardDisk> cause I've used suse desktop edition so im trying out kubuntu now
[08:02] <HardDisk> just wondering what that error would be from?
[08:02] <fulat2k> intelikey: very nice one liner btw :0
[08:02] <intelikey> fulat2k heh
[08:03] <intelikey> Jucato ah yes   i never learned to use split/join  cause i normally need to do that on disks and pause between...  big files to floppies...
[08:03] <HardDisk> aight fair enough...I can take a hint.
[08:04] <Jucato> HardDisk: not really sure what could be happening. sorry
[08:04] <fulat2k> HardDisk: have you switched to the error console to see the logs?
[08:04] <HardDisk> kinda wierd tho isnt it
[08:05] <HardDisk> well I was about to do that
[08:05] <HardDisk> but I think it's got to do with my videocard
[08:05] <fulat2k> HardDisk: have you tried text mode install?
[08:05] <HardDisk> it works fine.
[08:06] <HardDisk> like I said, normal mode install doesn't budge, safemode and text are both working
[08:06] <HardDisk> but no worries I'll figure it out, just thought of popping and seeing you folks ;)
[08:06] <HardDisk> kubun's a nice change from suse desktop
[08:07] <HardDisk> might pop in afterwards, it's just past 6am here and haven't had any sleep yet..
[08:07] <fulat2k> HardDisk: ahh... sorry, didn't read your previous posts.  get some sleep b4 you try anything else :P
[08:07] <HardDisk> in Egypt incase you're wondering.
[08:07] <HardDisk> hehe yea I will
[08:07] <Jucato> ooooh egypt :)
[08:07] <fulat2k> oohh.. my mum just came back from there on a trip :)
[08:07] <HardDisk> yea it's hot today, got the airco working.
[08:07] <Jucato> (and SimplyMEPIS)
[08:08] <HardDisk> lol, I try not to think hard of hash and belly dancer
[08:08] <HardDisk> s*
[08:08] <Jucato> hehe
[08:08] <HardDisk> haha oh ya I looked at mepis, funny they used pyramids in their logo.
[08:09] <HardDisk> well anyway I'll catch you later def.
[08:09] <HardDisk> salam! :)
[08:09] <Jucato> bye
[08:10] <fulat2k> anyone knows why knetworkmanager doesn't work well with my dlink dwl-g122 b1 usb wifi stick although it's detected?  i had to manually configure it in the interfaces file.
[08:13] <intelikey> by jove!    i think i got it !
[08:13] <intelikey> all is working in a chroot    i'll have to reboot into the other system to make sure
[08:20] <fulat2k> darn, nobody seems to know :(
[08:20] <abortd> either that or sleeping
[08:21] <abortd> i will try to help you after i use the restroom
[08:22] <intelikey> fulat2k i'm network illiterate...
[08:23] <fulat2k> intelikey: heh... no probs.  trying to check on bugs.kde.org
[08:23] <june> i'm having serious trouble printing with kpdf and a HP deskjet 5150
[08:23] <intelikey> any sujest a viewer that can fiew .tiff in fax format other than kfax ?       is there any such creature ?
[08:23] <june> it's cutting the pages in half
[08:24] <abortd> glue them together?
[08:24] <intelikey> june  prints from other apps ok ?
[08:25] <june> intelikey: eh no, it generally has the page offset a bit from where you'd expect it to print
[08:25] <intelikey> june then get into cups and fix the printer/driver maybe
[08:26] <intelikey> !printer | june here's a link that might help
[08:26] <ubotu> june here's a link that might help: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:26] <intelikey> the first  ^
[08:27] <june> thanks intellikey
[08:28] <nodesert_> should i upgrade edgy to feisty
[08:29] <abortd> no downgrade
[08:30] <intelikey> !lts
[08:30] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[08:31] <dror> I upgraded from breezy to feisty and now I'm having slow performance with NFS as described in http://www.kde-forum.org/artikel/16461/slow-startup-and-application-launch.html
[08:31] <intelikey> i've got two more years comming to me and i'm gonna get my money's worth out of shipit !
[08:31] <dror> any ideas?
[08:32] <intelikey> i need to go.   storm moving in...
[08:50] <TuTuFF> I`ve been having problems with knetworkmanager .. can it safely be disabled at boot and still have networking function as normal?
[08:53] <dominic_> hey guys, how do you loadup beryl automatically when you login?
[08:56] <dominic_> lol everyone sleeping huh....
[08:57] <fulat2k> not me.  but i don't know how :)
[08:59] <Jucato> dominic_: seen the beryl wiki? (the link is in the topic of #ubunu-effects )
[09:01] <dominic_> yea, very helpful jucato.... thanks so very much.
[09:09] <ijacek> !cz
[09:09] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[09:13] <firecrotch> !fonts
[09:13] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[09:15] <ZachClark0331> got a question ladies and gents, im trying to run steampowered for counter strike.
[09:15] <ZachClark0331> wines messin me all up
[09:18] <ZachClark0331> Anyone get counter-strike or steam working?
[09:23] <CVirus> ZachClark0331: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554
[09:24] <ZachClark0331> thanks, im just having a heck of a time getting to even work
[09:48] <erikja> !association
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about association - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:59] <ijacek> !cz
[09:59] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz.   The font size is so small.    Will that be a permanent fix?
[10:24] <dominic_> good night abortd
[10:24] <abortd> gnight dominic_
[10:24] <insmod> Jucato: :) verbal abuse and slander is just as bad
[10:25] <escobaldo> buongiorno
[10:25] <Jucato> insmod: yes. and judging from your experience, shouldn't you know better not to get into a cat fight? :)
[10:25] <Jucato> hm... cats...
[10:25] <ssaa> please i need help
[10:25] <dominic_> lol @jucato
[10:25] <escobaldo> chi pu darmi una piccolissima informazione??
[10:25] <insmod> Jucato: cat fights are great
[10:25] <robertwoes> Kazade_: no I haven't Kazade_.  Will that be a permanent fix?
[10:25] <Jucato> !it | escobaldo
[10:25] <ubotu> escobaldo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:26] <Jucato> insmod: anything that involves cats getting hurt is *not* great :(
[10:26] <insmod> Jucato: :)
[10:26] <dominic_> gonna change my alian name...
[10:26] <robertwoes> Kazade_: wow.  Thanks for the help.  I just tried that and it works great.
[10:26] <insmod> Jucato: but 2 chicks rocks :)
[10:27] <Kazade_> robertwoes: um, no but if gmail is the only site with a problem it doesnt seem to be worth changing the font size for ALL pages
[10:27] <Jucato> ssaa: ask your question. if someone here knows, they'll answer
[10:27] <robertwoes> Kazade_: excellent point.
[10:27] <robertwoes> Kazade_: thanks again.
[10:27] <smile> #apache
[10:28] <dominic_> k im back
[10:28] <Jucato> robertwoes: font settings for Konqueror as web browser (KHTML) Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Fonts
[10:28] <dominic_> WTF
[10:28] <Jucato> dominic_: nothing has changed :P
[10:29] <smile>  hi.. i want make a ftp count in my web site !! how to do ,?
[10:29] <smile> any help plz ?!
[10:29] <ssaa> jucato: maybe you could help me. when i run ksynaptics it says something like tha i need to edit xorg,conf (add a line to it) . Everytime I had added that line my system crashes and I have to reinstall kubuntu
[10:29] <jussi01> lol @ Jucato
[10:29] <robertwoes> Jucato: muchas gracias
[10:29] <insmod> smile: set up an ftp server and link to it
[10:30] <Jucato> ssaa: hm.. I haven't tried Kubuntu on my laptop yet...
[10:30] <exconvictriddick> k back
[10:30] <Jucato> actually I have, but haven't tried kysnaptics
[10:30] <smile> insmod: ftp server ??
[10:30] <Jucato> ksynaptics*
[10:30] <smile> insmod: how ?
[10:30] <ssaa> oh i see
[10:30] <Jucato> exconvictriddick: welcome back dominic_
[10:30] <Jucato> er... exconvictriddick
[10:30] <insmod> smile: have not done it in years but look into proftp
[10:30] <exconvictriddick> yeap
[10:30] <exconvictriddick> hey respect my name....
[10:30] <ssaa> how can i modify the area of the scrolling bar of my touchpad then. Its too big
[10:31] <exconvictriddick> used this all my online life ok.....
[10:31] <Jucato> :)
[10:31] <exconvictriddick> lmao
[10:31] <exconvictriddick> j/k
[10:31] <smile> insmod: proftp is a ftp server ?
[10:31] <insmod> smile: set that up then link it so they have password auth it
[10:31] <insmod> smile: ya
[10:31] <smile> insmod: can i get it with apt-get ?
[10:32] <exconvictriddick> ohhh inuyasha is on adult swim....
[10:32] <exconvictriddick> i hate adult swim
[10:32] <Jucato> !ftp
[10:32] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:32] <Jucato> tralallala... waiting for the bot...
[10:32] <insmod> smile: i loved it - it can mount dir so they can view certain files or dir or cdrom it rocks
[10:32] <Jucato> ah wrong factoid...
[10:32] <Jucato> !ftpd
[10:32] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:32] <Jucato> !info proftpd
[10:32] <ubotu> proftpd: Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon. In component universe, is optional.  O.o
[10:41] <HardDisk> lol
[10:41] <HardDisk> no I mean kubuntu up and running :)
[10:41] <Jucato> aaaah
[10:41] <HardDisk> not bad btw
[10:42] <Jucato> kubuntu? yep not bad at all :D
[10:42] <HardDisk> I do miss the oh so many icons in the system manager of opensuse
[10:42] <HardDisk> but I think this distro is quite good
[10:42] <Jucato> system manager? you mean system tray?
[10:42] <HardDisk> well no I mean you know the thingy...
[10:43] <HardDisk> umm
[10:43] <HardDisk> system settings