[00:00] <storbeck> You'll have to sudo
[00:00] <storbeck> And uncomment the internet repos
[00:00] <tekteen> xz: uncomment = get rid of #
[00:00] <xz> ok
[00:00] <xz> how can i do taht
[00:01] <tekteen> only infront of the commands
[00:01]  * storbeck sighs
[00:01] <tekteen> they start with deb
[00:01] <xz> dont think im stupid its just my first time with linux
[00:01] <tekteen> ok
[00:01] <tekteen> sorry
[00:01] <xz> lol its ok
[00:01] <storbeck> xz, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:02] <dako> Can someone help me with Kubuntu install question
[00:02] <xz> then..
[00:02] <tekteen> !ask|dako
[00:02] <ubotu> dako: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:02] <storbeck> Then do what I already told you
[00:03] <dako> OK. I installed 7.10 and am doing update, but it is now wanting to da a Distribution Update.Am I missing something?
[00:03] <xz> english its not my native language so can u be more specific
[00:03] <flipstar> how do you did the update ?
[00:03] <xz> _
[00:03] <dako> Adept
[00:03] <dako> I am hung at installing the upgrades
[00:03] <storbeck> xz, Uncomment (delete the #) from the lines that start with # deb
[00:04] <flipstar> adept_updater says there is a distribution update..?
[00:04] <dako> Yes
[00:04] <dako> It wants to update to version 7.10
[00:04] <tekteen> dako: I had that problem
[00:04] <tekteen> dako: just forget about it. It will go away
[00:04] <flipstar> didnt you said you just installed 7.10..?
[00:05] <dako> Yes.
[00:05] <xz> man thanks im gonna read more and im gonna try later
[00:05] <tekteen> dako: do sudo apt-get update and it should stop asking
[00:05] <dako> In the terminal window tekteen?
[00:05] <flipstar> yes
[00:05] <dako> OK
[00:07] <dako> Should I try and do this update still?
[00:08] <tekteen> dako: do not try to go to the next distribution
[00:08] <tekteen> just forget it says that
[00:09] <mixed> is it possible to    uninstall  KDE and then to install an earlier version of   KDE 3?
[00:09] <dako> Alright am doing the upgrade again
[00:10] <storbeck> mixed, Install the older version first, then uninstall
[00:10] <storbeck> You can have as many KDE versions installed as you want.
[00:11] <mixed> storbeck, how do i     install  the previous version of   KDE 3.5?
[00:12] <mixed> storbeck, i   mean how do i install the   version prior to     3.5? I  think the current one is 3.5
[00:12] <storbeck> http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/
[00:13] <storbeck> Has everything from 3.0 to 4.0
[00:15] <Dorwin6> does anyone know what is the super button in kubuntu ?
[00:15] <storbeck> Super button refers to a Mac
[00:16] <Shadow_mil> Super button is the window's key
[00:16] <Dorwin6> ty
[00:18] <cuznt> i am using gutsy. when i play any file it sounds good. BUT if i record it, upon play back there is screeetchiness in the back ground...
[00:19] <cuznt> been here http://alsa.opensrc.org/
[00:19] <cuznt> maybe i am not getting "it"
[00:19] <tony_> i just installed a packaged. can someone tell me how i search for it from the command line?
[00:20] <storbeck> tony, What was the package named?
[00:20] <SlimeyPete> tony_: "search for it"? You want to know what command to run? Or you want to know where it put the files?
[00:20] <tony_> nvclock-gtk
[00:20] <tony_> SlimeyPete:  either
[00:20] <flipstar>  nvclock_gtk is the command name
[00:20] <Kr|ptiX> any1 know how to burn a audio cd in k3b
[00:20] <storbeck> tony, You can use tab completion.
[00:20] <tony_> flipstar:  didn't work
[00:21] <genii> cuznt: PErhaps experiment with what inputs are enabled in kmix
[00:21] <storbeck> Try typing nvclock and pressing tab
[00:21] <cuznt> i am
[00:21] <SlimeyPete> tony_: dpkg -L packagename | less               to see all the files.
[00:21] <tony_> it starts the command line version of nvclock
[00:21] <cuznt> i can turn everything off and still get capture.
[00:22] <cuznt> i have alsa/oss and aoss installed
[00:22] <Vedavox> Kr|ptiX: use new audio cd as a project
[00:22] <tony_> SlimeyPete:  thanks, that worked
[00:22] <Vedavox> Kr|ptiX: you may want to check plugins are all there
[00:22] <Kr|ptiX> when tryn to add a mp3 it wont work
[00:22] <SlimeyPete> tony_: no problem
[00:25] <Vedavox> Kr|ptiX: go to settings configure k3b and chack the plugins
[00:25] <Kazuharu> Hey guys, I just installed KDE4 on my Kubuntu 7.10 how do I activate it? as Im still using 3.5 :\
[00:25] <Jsn> does anyone else have a problem getting knetworkmanager to open?
[00:25] <Kr|ptiX> wat would i be lookn for
[00:26] <flipstar> Kazuharu: you can select it from kdm
[00:26] <kiefer> Cheers flip
[00:26] <kiefer> Omg noob question, How do i open kdm? -.- lol
[00:27] <flipstar> err kdm is the login manager
[00:27] <kiefer> Haha ohk
[00:27] <kiefer> Where abouts in the login messenger am i supposed to select kde4?
[00:27] <kiefer> manager* not messenger lmao
[00:27] <flipstar> logout then select kde4 under system i thing
[00:27] <cuznt> there is a little piece of looking paper
[00:27] <cuznt> click on that and choose kde4
[00:28] <Jsn> does anyone else have a problem getting knetworkmanager to open?
[00:28] <cuznt> there should be a few choices
[00:28] <kiefer> On the login screen? (~.-)
[00:28] <flipstar> yes
[00:28] <kiefer> Lol alright, thanks for the help guys :p
[00:28] <kiefer> keep up the good work ^,^
[00:28] <flipstar> hf with kde4
[00:28] <kiefer> i will :p
[00:28] <kiefer> bbs
[00:31] <flipstar> what stands S, Ss, S<, Sl and so on on ps ax for? column STATE
[00:31] <Kr|ptiX> does any1  kno how to fix libz.so.1 is needed by k3b-mp3-0.11.14-1.2.el4.rf.i386 error
[00:31] <Jsn> how do you uninstall something?
[00:31] <flipstar> use adept_manager
[00:32] <tekteen> Jsn: sudo apt-get remove <package>
[00:32] <Jsn> thanks
[00:32] <Jsn> does anyone have the link to that wifi docs page?
[00:33] <Dr_willis> !wifi
[00:33] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[00:33] <Jsn> thanks
[00:33] <genii> Kr|ptiX: sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[00:34] <genii> Kr|ptiX: I get the feeling how you install things is to download some .deb file all the time, last time it was missing libs for the flash plugin.
[00:36] <Kr|ptiX> how  do i fix that error?
[00:37] <Kr|ptiX> so it doesnt do it again
[00:37] <genii> Kr|ptiX: If what you are trying to accomplish is to install mp3 support for k3b, the first thing I told you
[00:37] <genii> Kr|ptiX: sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[00:37] <genii> ^
[00:38] <Kr|ptiX> i  did that but when i do sudo rpm -i <file> will it still give me that error?
[00:38] <Dr_willis> rpm ?
[00:38] <Kr|ptiX> i always get that error
[00:38] <Jsn> this is driving me crazy!  I uninstalled knetworkmanager, reinstalled it and it still will not open when selected
[00:38] <Dr_willis> What disrto you running?
[00:39] <Kr|ptiX> gusty
[00:39] <Dr_willis> Kr|ptiX,  how are you using 'rpm' at all?
[00:39] <genii> dr_willis: [20:34:20] <genii> Kr|ptiX: I get the feeling how you install things is to download some .deb file all the time, last time it was missing libs for the flash plugin.
[00:39]  * Dr_willis is totally confused then. :)
[00:39] <genii> Dr_willis: He seems to refuse to use any kind of ubuntu/debian package manager
[00:40] <Dr_willis> Guess hes on his own then...
[00:40] <Dr_willis> if hes using rpm's instead of the .debs hes VERY much on his own.
[00:40] <kiefer> o_o @ KDE4
[00:40] <Kr|ptiX> so i should be using debs files not rpms
[00:40] <kiefer> Just upgraded, looks so damn coo XD
[00:41] <Kr|ptiX> i didnt kno im a  newb srry
[00:41] <flipstar> rpm is redhat or so
[00:41] <Dr_willis> Kr|ptiX,  ubuntu uses the apt-get system, which uses debs. I got NO idea how you got the idea you should be using rpms.
[00:41] <Dr_willis> redhat/mandrake/so on are rpm based
[00:41] <genii> Kr|ptiX: Ubuntu uses .deb files and not .rpm files. Most things can be installed from a package manager like Adept or Synaptic in the graphical way, and with apt-get in the command line way
[00:41] <kiefer> Hey willis :p
[00:41] <Dr_willis> thats the 'core' differance in many of the disrtos..
[00:41] <Kr|ptiX> oh k
[00:42] <genii> Kr|ptiX: Use the Adept program to install most things. When you cannot find what you need there (rarely) then find a .deb package which is for the correct Ubuntu version
[00:43] <laz0r> hi, i am having problems installing the kde-devel package on gutsy, very similar to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/79101, maybe someone in here has any suggestions?
[00:43] <laz0r> because, i am pretty lost
[00:43] <tekteen>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/79101
[00:43] <Kr|ptiX> k genii maybe u can help me with another problem i have
[00:43] <tekteen> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/79101
[00:44] <Dr_willis> Kr|ptiX,  you may want to download the free ubuntu books at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[00:44] <genii> Dr_willis: Nice call there
[00:44] <Dr_willis> and read  it  also.. of course.. :)
[00:44] <Kr|ptiX> genii: i can conenct to my wireless router witch uses wpa2 aes but when i try to connect to my friends router witch he doesnt use anytime oh encryption it wont let me
[00:44] <Kr|ptiX> anytype*
[00:48] <Kr|ptiX> any help with that problems
[00:49] <genii> !ping
[00:49] <ubotu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[00:49] <genii> Had a momentary disconnect
[00:50] <oren> can someone help me?
[00:50] <oren> i try playing anaudio file and it sounds all speeded up like alvin in the chipmunks
[00:50] <oren> and video files have n sound
[00:50] <oren> no
[00:51] <oren> i shoul just switch back to xp
[00:51] <oren> please help
[00:52] <Jsn> alright, i have read this line 5 times and can not figure out what they are talking about.  does anyone know how to do this in the services manager
[00:52] <Jsn> Add knetworkmanager to the comma-separated list of applications to exclude from the session management (in the bottom of the window), and click Apply.
[00:52] <genii> Kr|ptiX: When you right-click on the knetwork icon in bottom right you should see a list of networks in range. If you don't see a list when you know there are some around, likely there is some entry for your usual connection in the file /etc/network/interfaces which makes knetworkmanager believe it is manually configured.
[00:52] <Shadow_mil> how you playing audio and video files?
[00:52] <Shadow_mil> oren: *
[00:52] <oren> i have a few programs
[00:52] <Shadow_mil> like?
[00:52] <oren> vlc mplayer
[00:53] <Kr|ptiX> genii: yeah i see a list of networks
[00:53] <Kr|ptiX> i click on hes an it wont connect
[00:53] <Shadow_mil> It sounds like you have codec problems
[00:53] <genii> Kr|ptiX: What percentage does it get to?
[00:53] <Kr|ptiX> 28%
[00:54] <Shadow_mil> oren: what type of audio files you are playing?
[00:54] <Kr|ptiX> i think it fails to obtain  a ip
[00:54] <genii> Kr|ptiX: Yes, that looks about right. I suspect the issue is on his router
[00:54] <Jsn> anyone?
[00:55] <Shadow_mil> oren: what format?   I.E: mp3, wav
[00:55] <Kr|ptiX> hrmm never had this problem before on my old os
[00:55] <Kazuharu> I just installed kde4, and it was working till i reset kde, now whenever i log in, nothing appears but a crash handler saying that oxygen recieved signal SIGSEGV  :\
[00:55] <genii> Kr|ptiX: Perhaps he has static IPs set on the laptop he uses with it
[00:55] <raylu> omgomgomgkde4sweet
[00:55] <Shadow_mil> Kr|ptiX: try a program called wlassistance
[00:55] <raylu> *wlanassitant?
[00:55] <Shadow_mil> oren: you there?
[00:55] <raylu> *assistant
[00:56] <keeper> hi, i can't get kubuntu to boot on a fresh install, or on the livecd either, I've tried dpkg-reconfigure but it did not solve the problem
[00:56] <raylu> keeper, describe what happens more, please
[00:56] <keeper> it stalls right after the splash screen loader
[00:56] <Kazuharu> Any help?
[00:56] <Kr|ptiX> where can i get wlassistance
[00:56] <flipstar> Kazuharu: #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support
[00:57] <Kazuharu> Ohk cheers flip
[00:57] <Shadow_mil> Kr|ptiX: it should be in your package manager, somewhere.   Not sure of the package's name
[00:58] <Frederick> folks is the java package broken for amd64?
[00:58] <Shadow_mil> Frederick: most likely
[00:58] <Shadow_mil> oren: you want help or not?
[00:58] <flipstar> his cpu probably is too fast
[00:58] <keeper> after it stalls after the loader the screen is usually black with thick horizontal grey lines,with a cursor at the top left
[00:59] <Shadow_mil> flipstar: orens?
[00:59] <flipstar> yep
[00:59] <Shadow_mil> flipstar: I doubt it
[00:59] <keeper> and changing from ^alt F1 and back will usually make some glitchy graphics, coloured ascii type glitches
[00:59] <Kr|ptiX> only things ive found is sometin called kwlan  an  rutilT wlan manager
[00:59] <flipstar> man dont you have humor :)
[00:59] <Shadow_mil> flipstar: Im thinking a codec or sound driver issue
[01:00] <Shadow_mil> no, its not installed
[01:00] <Dr_willis> keeper,  thats often an issue with the framebuffer and various X drivers. I alwyas disable the framebuffer.
[01:00] <Dr_willis> the console framebuffer, and X  drivers some how fight at times. :(
[01:00] <genii> Kr|ptiX: K-menu->Add/Remove programs put here your usual passsword when asked... then put Wireless Assistant              in where it has Search:  then check it off and apply
[01:00] <keeper> so dpkg-reconfigure and disable frame buffer ?
[01:01] <keeper> or can i just disable it in xorg.conf ?
[01:02] <Kr|ptiX> k ty found it
[01:03] <Frederick> Shadow_mil: no java application seems to work here ive tried netbeans azureus and so on but no luck I got the error message in http://rafb.net/p/GjtZrU53.html
[01:04] <Shadow_mil> Frederick: I would just ues the 32-bit version, I have heard other people having problems with 64-Java
[01:04] <dariocoll> !grub
[01:04] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:05] <keeper> I'll have a go at disabling framebuffer, thanks for the help ^.^
[01:06] <Frederick> Shadow_mil: how do I do it?
[01:06] <Frederick> I mean Ive just instaleld java Ive not asked for a version
[01:07] <Shadow_mil> how did you install it?
[01:08] <Frederick> ive instaleld icedtea-java7
[01:08] <Frederick> I had java 6 also installed
[01:09] <storbeck> I have Java pre-installed thanks to the distro :D
[01:09] <Shadow_mil> I think Java6 is 32-bit
[01:09] <Frederick> and my java is the 32bit
[01:09] <Shadow_mil> I dunno, I hate java
[01:11] <Frederick> yep y java is the 32
[01:11] <Frederick> im building it from source now
[01:11] <Frederick> seing wut happens
[01:11]  * Frederick has a gentoo feeling
[01:16] <fignew> Frederick's feeling "optimized"
[01:16] <AMcBain> Okay, Just downloaded the driver for my wireless card from the Intel site (the linux edition :) so how do I get the OS to recognize it? I started off with the page on how use the NDIS wrapper so I've disabled the default driver already ...
[01:16] <fignew> AMcBain: you don't need to download the driver from Intel's site
[01:17] <AMcBain> uh, okay.
[01:17] <Frederick> fignew: upset is the right word
[01:17] <aaroncampbell> How exactly can I check what version of Kubuntu is installed on a system?
[01:17] <fignew> AMcBain: what does lspci | grep -i ethernet
[01:17] <fignew> say?
[01:17] <flipstar> aaroncampbell: cat /etc/*release
[01:17] <Jucato> !version | aaroncampbell
[01:17] <ubotu> aaroncampbell: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[01:18] <Frederick> how long does a java package takes to build in an amd athlon 64 3 ghz and 4 gb ram?
[01:18] <AMcBain> 02:05.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
[01:18] <AMcBain> But I'm trying to fix the Wifi ...
[01:18] <AMcBain> I can do ethernet.
[01:18] <fignew> right... but the wireless should show up as ethernet
[01:18] <AMcBain> It doesn't.
[01:19] <fignew> do a straight-up lspci
[01:19] <markrian> Hello! How does gdm/kdm know a particular user's preferred session environment? I need to change it, and have to do it remotely via ssh. Any ideas?
[01:19] <AMcBain> But it does show up under lspci
[01:19] <fignew> what card is it?
[01:19] <AMcBain> 02:01.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2915ABG Network Connection (rev 05)
[01:19] <AMcBain> (I new it was a Intel Pro Set ...)
[01:20] <crxyem> markrian it would be in /home/user/.kde
[01:20] <crxyem> not sure about gdm
[01:21] <fignew> AMcBain: does lsmod | grep -i "ipw2200" say anything?
[01:22] <markrian> crxyem: any idea where in ~/.kde in particular?
[01:22] <AMcBain> yes two lines: ipw2200               149320  0 \n ieee80211              35656  1 ipw2200
[01:22] <fignew> AMcBain: ok
[01:22] <AMcBain> So I already have those necessary packages.
[01:23] <fignew> what network interfaces does "iwconfig" list?
[01:24] <AMcBain> http://pastebin.stonekeep.com/1720
[01:31] <fignew> sorry AMcBain I was in my roomate's room
[01:31] <fignew> anyways... the wireless card is installed
[01:32] <fignew> just a matter of telling it what to connect to
[01:32] <AMcBain> Well that may be, but the default driver doesn't let me see wireless networks ...
[01:33] <fignew> AMcBain: orly?
[01:33] <AMcBain> Unless there is some program I'm missing that shows the networks ...
[01:33] <fignew> is knetworkmanager installed?
[01:35] <AMcBain> Seems to be.
[01:35] <AMcBain> I'm using the ethernet with it right now.
[01:35] <fignew> ok
[01:35] <fignew> so when you click on it, no wireless networks show up?
[01:36] <AMcBain> The last tab is grayed out.
[01:36] <deuryte> can some one take a look at my software list and see what in need to do in order to get my dasktop effects enabled and running in kde gutsy ?
[01:36] <AMcBain> And I know there are several WiFi networks in this building even if they aren't worth connecting ...
[01:36] <fignew> AMcBain: what does the command "iwlist eth1 ap" say?
[01:37] <flipstar> deuryte: talking about compiz ?
[01:37] <deuryte> yes
[01:37] <AMcBain> eth1      Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points
[01:38] <fignew> hmmm
[01:38] <fignew> AMcBain: do ifconfig eth1 up
[01:38] <ar0nic> hey guys
[01:38] <fignew> AMcBain: then wait a few seconds... and try again :)
[01:38] <crxyem> I think I may have found a bug, Not 100% sure that this might be related to compiz,but  If I open firefox, thunderbird won't open and vise versa, they both seem to run "run-mozilla.sh" the file exits is /usr/lib/thunderbird and /usr/lib/firefox any ideas
[01:38] <ar0nic> got a good\\\\\\\\\\\\
[01:39] <ar0nic> whoops
[01:39] <keeper> back from trying to disable framebuffer, it didn't work ( though maybe i could have done something wrong )
[01:39] <flipstar> deuryte: install compiz,ccsm,emerald then..
[01:40] <flipstar> !compiz | deuryte
[01:40] <ubotu> deuryte: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[01:40] <AMcBain> fignew: I tried, it said access denied, so I ran it with sudo ... and it seemed to have no effect.
[01:40] <ar0nic> hey guys having some issues with my video files, ive already made sure all packages and players are compiled and installed correctly and read thru the many threads and guides
[01:40] <fignew> right... sudo :P
[01:40] <ar0nic> in any player i have no vid
[01:40] <deuryte> flipstar: can i show you my list of what i already have installed??
[01:40] <fignew> AMcBain: that is strange though
[01:40] <ar0nic> the sound is fine just no vid
[01:41] <flipstar> ar0nic: you have codecs installed ?
[01:41] <ar0nic> w32 packages, medibuntu, divx as wekk
[01:41] <ar0nic> 'well*
[01:41] <flipstar> ffmpeg codec..?
[01:41] <ar0nic> any codec i could find that i didnt already have i downloaded
[01:41] <ar0nic> ffmpeg i do have.
[01:42] <ar0nic> its included in the w32 codecs  isnt it?
[01:42] <flipstar> nope
[01:42] <ar0nic> cant remember cause ive wowah'
[01:42] <flipstar> omg netsplit
[01:43] <ar0nic> is the person helping me still here
[01:43] <ar0nic> anyway ffmpeg is there
[01:43] <ar0nic> the only ones i havent installed yet are the mplayer essentials
[01:43] <flipstar> so no vid in vlc..?
[01:43] <ar0nic> kind of a noob and having problems doing it from the gui
[01:44] <ar0nic> no vid in vlc, mplayer, kaffiene\<--which sucks) xine
[01:44] <ar0nic> notta
[01:44] <ar0nic> they all do the same thing cept kaffiene which does nothing at all
[01:44] <AMcBain> heh, just like me! None of my programs will play DVDs ... (all xine related I think)
[01:45] <flipstar> btw what kind of video you try to play ?
[01:45] <ar0nic> avi
[01:45] <ar0nic> divx
[01:45] <flipstar> libxine1-ffmpeg you need then
[01:46] <ar0nic> where do i check to see all installed codecs
[01:47] <ar0nic> and also im having an issue using arc to extract the mplayer essecianels pack  because of sadmin privledge
[01:48] <ar0nic> what would be the cli command
[01:48] <flipstar> depends on archive format
[01:49] <ar0nic> tar.bz2
[01:49] <flipstar> then tar -xf <file>
[01:50] <ar0nic> its downloaded on the desktop and it has to be extracted to the codecs dir.
[01:50] <ar0nic> where can i find that program flipstar
[01:50] <ar0nic> ??
[01:51] <ar0nic> not program im sorry package
[01:51] <ar0nic> the lipxine1-ffmpeg
[01:51] <genii> .tar.bz2 requires: tar -xjf name                 if you want different extract dir,: tar -xjf name -C /other/place
[01:51] <flipstar> type in konsole sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[01:52] <ar0nic> already have it installed
[01:52] <ar0nic> i thought i did....
[01:53] <flipstar> maybe you installed too much codecs
[01:53] <ar0nic> flipstar thats what im thinking
[01:53] <ar0nic> what would be the minimum codecs i need and also what about removing the ones already on here?
[01:54] <ar0nic> do i delete those from the package manager?
[01:54] <flipstar> yep
[01:55] <ar0nic> what would be the bare package choice for you
[01:55] <ar0nic> i have a wide array of formats i watch...all from a windows box
[01:56] <linoss> anyone of a software application that records a phone conversation utilizing the internal modem on a PC?
[01:58] <wimpies> when I press the 'right' arrow key in xine my movie does not skip 7 seconds as it should but but returns to the kind of like the last keyframe.
[01:58] <ar0nic> dude there is a 1000 packages
[01:59] <flipstar> use filter function
[02:01] <ar0nic> the ones i have seem to be the ones i need
[02:01] <ar0nic> i have the ffmpeg codec library from medibuntu
[02:01] <ar0nic> and the win32 codec binaries
[02:03] <ForgeAus> um how do I make a user who can manage files with root-like priveleges
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> add the new user to the admin group
[02:04] <Daisuke_Ido> assuming you mean you want them to be able to use sudo
[02:04] <ForgeAus> you mean adm ?
[02:05] <ForgeAus> there is no admin group
[02:05] <ForgeAus> no I want them to be able to write to the place their home is mounted
[02:05] <ForgeAus> (note its not mounted under /home/<username>
[02:05] <ForgeAus> I put it in /mnt/and/ (which is on a different drive)
[02:06] <keeper> *sigh* i can't find anything on how to fix the problem I'm having
[02:07] <flipstar> in systemsettings>usermanagement>$username>edit>preveliges>administer the system maybe ?
[02:07] <Jucato> ForgeAus: there is an admin group. it's the sudoers group
[02:08] <keeper> is there a way to turn framebuffer off, other than running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[02:08] <flipstar> add it to blacklist ..
[02:08] <kgoetz> ForgeAus: where is their home, and why did you make it so they cant write to it?
[02:09] <ForgeAus> kogetz I didn't make it so they can't write to it
[02:09] <ForgeAus> but its on a mounted partition
[02:10] <kgoetz> where is it mounted from?
[02:10] <ForgeAus> um fstab I guess
[02:10] <kgoetz> ForgeAus: pastebin the output of `mount`
[02:10] <ForgeAus> its under /mnt/and/
[02:10] <kgoetz> also pastebin the output of `ls -lh /mnt` and `ls -lh /mnt/and/`
[02:13] <ForgeAus> http://www.pastebin.ca/941939
[02:13] <ForgeAus> (has both)
[02:14] <ForgeAus> its mounted as rw
[02:14] <ForgeAus> and root can write to it
[02:14] <ForgeAus> I just can't seem to make the user able to write to it
[02:15] <kgoetz> ForgeAus: you need to allow users to write to it (theres settings in the /etc/fstab to let you) - i'm heading out to grab lunch. back in ~15 perhaps
[02:16] <ForgeAus> ohh kay
[02:16] <ForgeAus> guess I'll just wait till you come back
[02:16] <keeper> this might help ForgeAus, http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[02:18] <keeper> and this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[02:19] <ForgeAus> the user option lets them mount and unmount according to the tuxfiles url but doesn't say if it lets them write to it
[02:20] <jor> hola alguien habla españolllllllll
[02:20] <jor> hellou
[02:20] <EDinNY> what is the name of the deb that gives you Acrobat reader?
[02:20] <jor> alguien habla español
[02:20] <jor> HELLOU
[02:20] <jor> ALGUIEN SPEAK SPANISH
[02:21] <jor> HOLAAAAAAAAAAA
[02:21] <jor> ALGUIEN HABLAESPAÑOLLLLLLLLLLLL
[02:22] <ForgeAus> ok restarting now with the user flag
[02:24] <keeper> this has some information on permissions, http://www.swerdna.net.au/linhowtontfs.html
[02:24] <kgoetz> !acrobat | EDinNY
[02:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acrobat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:24] <kgoetz> bah.
[02:25] <ForgeAus> back.. that didn't work
[02:25] <kgoetz> ForgeAus: can you tell us the fstab line you have for that fileystem?
[02:26] <ForgeAus> 31 /mnt/and cofs user 0 0
[02:26] <kgoetz> ForgeAus: add 'defaults' next to user (defaults,user)
[02:27] <ForgeAus> ok unmounted it and remounted it
[02:27] <keeper> !search framebuffer
[02:27] <ubotu> Found: framebuffer, vgafb, fb
[02:28] <keeper> !framebuffer
[02:28] <ubotu> Information about changing your framebuffer modes in GRUB can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer#grub
[02:28] <ForgeAus> hmmm still error
[02:28] <ForgeAus> I get this:
[02:28] <ForgeAus> 2008/03/13 22:27:38 error mkdir failed on /mnt/and/winuser/.mldonkey: Permission
[02:28] <ForgeAus>  denied for directory /mnt/and/winuser/.mldonkey
[02:30] <keeper> so you added the user option in fstab ?
[02:30] <kgoetz> i wouldnt expect user to be required
[02:30] <kgoetz> i'm supprised 'defaults' doesnt do it though
[02:30]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[02:32] <keeper> you can set permissions with the mount cmd
[02:32] <ForgeAus> uh?
[02:34] <ForgeAus> hmm chown winuser:winuser winuser doesn't work
[02:34] <dalton2345> hello...i tried to install kubuntu but the cd check gave me 3 errors, anyone would know why?
[02:34] <ForgeAus> after an ls -l its still owned by root:root
[02:34] <ForgeAus> (even when root does the chown)
[02:34] <ForgeAus> is that because its ntfs?
[02:35] <ForgeAus> (well cofs)
[02:35] <genii> uid= gid=    etc
[02:35] <ccarr013> hi there
[02:35] <ccarr013> can anyone help me?
[02:35] <ccarr013> please
[02:35] <ForgeAus> hmmm
[02:36] <ccarr013> my kubuntu
[02:36] <keeper> do you remember what the errors were, dalton2345 ?
[02:36] <ccarr013> don't start wifi
[02:37] <dalton2345> it didnt say keeper
[02:37] <dalton2345> just said 3 errors and reboot
[02:37] <ccarr013> don't even recognize the wifi card
[02:37] <keeper> most likely it didn't download properly, or the cd is damaged , try downloading again and burn another cd, if possible
[02:38] <dalton2345> keeper...the weirdest thing....i used that cd for another install and went well
[02:39] <kgoetz> !wifi | ccarr013
[02:39] <ubotu> ccarr013: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:39] <ccarr013> thanx so much
[02:39] <keeper> could be that the cd has been damaged since that install
[02:39] <kgoetz> np
[02:39] <billytwowilly> how do I make a directory readable/writeable recursively by everyone?
[02:40] <kgoetz> billytwowilly: chmod
[02:40] <billytwowilly> yah, chmod what though?
[02:40] <kgoetz> -R +o-rw or something
[02:40]  * kgoetz doesnt use letter notation
[02:41] <ar0nic> flipstar ever heard of automatix
[02:41] <ar0nic> or anyone for that matter
[02:41] <kgoetz> !automatix | ar0nic
[02:41] <ubotu> ar0nic: automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[02:41] <ForgeAus> hehe use 777 for full permissions
[02:41] <kgoetz> just dont...
[02:41] <ForgeAus> ie sudo chmod 777 /path/to/directory
[02:42] <ar0nic> well its worth a shot
[02:42] <ar0nic> nothing else has worked
[02:42] <billytwowilly> yah, I know about 777, I don't know how to specify recursive so all stuff under dir get same permissions
[02:42] <kgoetz> billytwowilly: -R
[02:42] <^JSN> how do you join a workgroup on kubuntu?  I see an option for a domain but not for a work group
[02:42] <ar0nic> i cannot for anything to get my players to play video
[02:42] <ForgeAus> billy use chmod --help
[02:42] <ForgeAus> that should tell you :)
[02:43] <ForgeAus> (note: kgoetz was right about the -R according to what chmod --help told me
[02:43] <keeper> yeah chmod -R a+rw ./ should set read and write access for all, recursivley in the current directory
[02:43] <ForgeAus> that doesn't help me with my winuser problem
[02:43] <kgoetz> ar0nic: sure its a codec thing, not an xorg/driver thing?
[02:44] <ForgeAus> I can't seem to chmod and/or chown the user directory
[02:44] <ForgeAus> probably a filesystem thing
[02:44] <ForgeAus> (ie cofs/ntfs instead of ext3)
[02:44] <billytwowilly> thanks
[02:44] <kgoetz> ForgeAus: what is cofs?
[02:44] <ForgeAus> hmm maybe I can fix that
[02:44] <ForgeAus> cofs = colinux file system
[02:44] <kgoetz> oh.
[02:44] <keeper> do you have permissions to chmod and/or chown ?
[02:44] <ForgeAus> um root does
[02:45] <ForgeAus> and even root can't change it
[02:45] <ForgeAus> well the command goes through without error but doesn't make the actual change
[02:45] <ar0nic> well eveything else works kgoetz
[02:45] <kgoetz> ar0nic: what is 'everything else'?
[02:45] <ar0nic> it identifies all video hardware properly
[02:45] <ForgeAus> it still doesn't make sense tho because root user can write to it
[02:46] <ForgeAus> problem is I can't (or don't want to?) set root user's home to be /mnt/and lol
[02:46] <ForgeAus> looks like thats about the only way to do it
[02:47] <ForgeAus> ok trying something else
[02:47] <kgoetz> ar0nic: that doesnt really answer the question
[02:47] <kubuntu_> hello
[02:47] <kubuntu_> alguien q hable español?
[02:48] <kgoetz> kubuntu_: try #ubuntu-es
[02:48] <ar0nic> well whaat would you suggest
[02:48] <kgoetz> kubuntu_: try #kubuntu-es (oops)
[02:48] <kgoetz> ar0nic: what does 'everything else works' mean?
[02:49] <ForgeAus> bbl
[02:49] <ar0nic> the system identifies the hardware as what it is
[02:49] <ar0nic> there are no video errors etc
[02:50] <arrrghhh> can i use x11vnc to login to my machine remotely?  it says it cannot connect to any display manager, and i'm sure the computer is just sitting at the login screen waiting for someone to type the password in.
[02:50] <kgoetz> ar0nic: what is the video card? what are the drivers?
[02:50] <ar0nic> ati radeon
[02:50] <kgoetz> arrrghhh: does the other machine have xdmcp/vnc running?
[02:51] <ar0nic> havent installed any drivers as it recognized it during install and such
[02:51] <arrrghhh> kgoetz, the server?  it has x11vnc and ssh.... i'm not sure if xdmcp is running on it.
[02:51] <ar0nic> sorry im still a boot of a noob but ive been tyring to work this issue all day
[02:51] <ar0nic> ive read every codec tutorial there is heh
[02:52] <kgoetz> ar0nic: can you pastebin `grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf` , `lsb_release -a` and `lspci |grep VGA`
[02:52] <kgoetz> arrrghhh: and x11vnc is running on the srever, and listening on an external interface?
[02:53] <ForgeAus> anyone here use mldonkey?
[02:53] <arrrghhh> kgoetz, yes.  not sure what you mean by external interface, but if i was logged in i would be able to use it.  i was working on it, and i rebooted it.  now i can't vnc into it, but ssh/apache work.
[02:53] <ForgeAus> anyone know how to put my /.mldonkey in a place other than ~/ ?
[02:53] <ForgeAus> that way I dont need the winuser user
[02:53] <kgoetz> arrrghhh: odd. i dont know x11vnc at all, so i cant really help
[02:54] <ar0nic> kgoetz:
[02:54] <ar0nic>        Driver          "kbd"
[02:54] <ar0nic>         Driver          "mouse"
[02:54] <ar0nic>         Driver          "synaptics"
[02:54] <ar0nic>         Driver          "wacom"
[02:54] <ar0nic>         Driver          "wacom"
[02:54] <ar0nic>         Driver          "wacom"
[02:54] <ar0nic>         Driver          "ati"
[02:54] <arrrghhh> ar0nic, not in here
[02:54] <ForgeAus> I guess the mlnet command lets you somehow
[02:54] <arrrghhh> pastebin...
[02:54] <arrrghhh> and kgoetz... how would it work with regular vnc?
[02:54] <ForgeAus> heeh I don't get why 7 short lines is considered a flood but anyway...
[02:54] <kgoetz> !tell ar0nic about pastebin
[02:55] <kgoetz> arrrghhh: dont know. i only ever forward stuff over ssh
[02:55] <fignew> ForgeAus: because there's 301 people in this channel ;)
[02:55] <keeper> !pastebin | ar0nic
[02:55] <ubotu> ar0nic: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:55] <kgoetz> keeper: i told him...
[02:55] <ar0nic> sorry guys
[02:55] <arrrghhh> ForgeAus, i've had people on irc get pissed about 2 lines.
[02:56] <ForgeAus> arrrghhh yes I've seen that too and I still can't fathom it
[02:56] <keeper> oops, sorry about that kgoetz
[02:56] <ForgeAus> fignew what does the amount of users matter?
[02:56] <fignew> because it can get busy as heck in here
[02:57] <ForgeAus> thats what scrollbars are for :)
[02:57] <fignew> and if someone has a question... and it scrolls off screen, a helper might not see it & be able to help :)
[02:57] <arrrghhh> meh people are picky.  especially when there's anonymonity involved.
[02:57] <kgoetz> #debian kicks when you paste > 5 lines, which i think is good
[02:57] <ar0nic> kgoetz:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59556/
[02:58] <kgoetz> ar0nic: i would have thought with teh ati driver you could look at video - i might have to let someone else try and help you.
[02:59] <arrrghhh> so has anyone here used vnc to login to a machine remotely?  seems pretty simple, setting it up was a snap.
[02:59] <ar0nic> oh kgoetz
[02:59] <ar0nic> here
[02:59] <^JSN> Is there a way to join a workgroup in kbuntu networking?? The only option i can find is domain
[02:59] <ar0nic> for the last command
[02:59] <ar0nic> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[03:00] <kgoetz> ar0nic: oh, snap :D
[03:00] <kgoetz> ar0nic: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[03:01] <basy> Anybody know tool for utf8 character map translations for kubuntu? Something like for example when i paste [ž] i recive [ž] ....
[03:01] <yuri_> hi ppl!
[03:01] <kgoetz> ^JSN: what do you mean?
[03:01] <yuri_> i got a little problem can some one guide me to install cedega?
[03:01] <kgoetz> !cedega | yuri_
[03:01] <ubotu> yuri_: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[03:01] <arrrghhh> yuri_, that's a paid-for service.  they should help cuz you're PAYING them.
[03:01] <yuri_> k
[03:01] <yuri_> ty
[03:02] <^JSN> i mean with windows machines, for a small network you join a work group. for a large networks you join domains.  all i see in kbuntu is domain
[03:02] <arrrghhh> ^JSN, what are you trying to do, file sharing with windows machines?
[03:02] <kgoetz> ubotu: no, cedega is cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega or ask the irc channel #cedega
[03:03] <^JSN> yep
[03:03] <yuri_> how i can change directory in console?...
[03:03] <arrrghhh> ^JSN, then there's no reason to connect to a workgroup.
[03:03] <arrrghhh> yuri_, cd
[03:03] <arrrghhh> !bash | yuri_
[03:03] <ubotu> yuri_: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:04] <^JSN> arrghh:  how do you do file shareing without being able to see the other computer on the LAN?
[03:05] <ForgeAus> JSN??? um I don't think thats a good idea
[03:06] <ForgeAus> but if your talkinga bout samba don't search by name use IP's instead
[03:06] <arrrghhh> ^JSN, did you go to remote places?
[03:06] <^JSN> YES
[03:06] <^JSN> sorry for the caps
[03:06] <arrrghhh> ForgeAus, and there's no need to do that either.
[03:06] <arrrghhh> ^JSN, when i went to my uncles house his computers just showed up in remote places... i dunno.
[03:07] <arrrghhh> ^JSN, you went to the "Samba Shares" icon right?
[03:08] <^JSN> no i did now though and your right, it is there
[03:09] <^JSN> what is the login authorization?  i tried the username and password of my desktop and it's not letting me in
[03:09] <arrrghhh> ^JSN, i have no idea, that's created on your windows box that's sharing it.
[03:10] <^JSN> well what would it be if you were trying to get onto another ubuntu box?
[03:11] <arrrghhh> ^JSN, i would assume the username/pass you use to login... if that's not working try creating another user on the windows box... my uncle had a dummy acct for that as i recall, but i could be wrong.
[03:12] <^JSN> ok thanks
[03:14] <jerbear> does anyone know of a good OSD program to use in scripts (other than xosd)?
[03:17] <arrrghhh> so there's instructions on how to "VNC Server with Login Screen via GDM" but nothing with KDM... wtf...
[03:20] <some_dud> about how much ram does kde use ?
[03:23] <arrrghhh> some_dud, uh... that really depends on what you're doing.  you can see how much it's using by going to kinfocenter and click memory.
[03:24] <some_dud> I have 83mbs of ram left, but it's using 64% for disk cache, so that's not to bad right ?
[03:25] <fignew> cache = good
[03:25] <spawn57> hi folks, I dunno why knetworkmanager isn't showing my wireless connection.  It shows it fine in my the network settings applet in control center though
[03:25] <some_dud> that's going to be over a gig of cache
[03:26] <fignew> some_dud: the more the better
[03:26] <fignew> cache is pretty much = free ram
[03:26] <fignew> if the kernel needs room for a program... it can erase the cache :)
[03:26] <some_dud> my firefox is just a little slow when I'm restoring it from the task bar
[03:27] <Jucato> nah, that's just firefox being naturally like that :)
[03:27] <some_dud> oh, well if that's the case ...
[03:27] <spawn57> hopefully ff3 fixes that soon
[03:27] <some_dud> still less ram usage than vista :P
[03:28] <Jucato> some_dud: Windows and Linux utilize RAM differently
[03:28] <Jucato> !ram
[03:28] <ubotu> A quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html
[03:28] <fignew> you could just use konqueror ;)
[03:28] <some_dud> is it faster ?
[03:28] <spawn57> yeah
[03:28] <spawn57> konqueror is blazing fast
[03:29] <Jucato> !kubuntu | manatatas
[03:29] <ubotu> manatatas: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE
[03:29] <Jucato> manatatas: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[03:30] <some_dud> doesn't konqueror use the geko engine /
[03:30] <Jucato> (hell no)
[03:31] <some_dud> I can't have cookies in konqueror for some reason
[03:32] <fignew> some_dud: sure you can :)
[03:32] <Jucato> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Cookies or Tools -> HTML Settings -> Cookie (per page basis)
[03:32] <fignew> Jucato: exactly :)
[03:32] <some_dud> I'm getting an error
[03:33] <fignew> some_dud: it says?
[03:34] <some_dud> the error seems to be gone now, but it said something about the cookies manager not be found
[03:35] <erkel> turning frame buffer off in GRUB doesn't work either, anyone have any ideas on what could be wrong, or how to fix it
[03:36] <keeper> I can give more information about the problem, if anyone didn't see it the first time i asked
[03:37] <oren> i cant get sound to work on any video files?
[03:37] <oren> linux is such a pita
[03:37] <keeper> can problems be caused by having framebuffer on as well as having it turned off ?
[03:38] <some_dud> I was thinking of using gnome, but I seem to hate gnome most of the time
[03:39] <keeper> oren, is there no sound at all, or just no sound when playing video files ?
[03:39] <keeper> some_dud, #kubuntu-offtopic might be a better place to talk
[03:40] <leo_rockw> greetings
[03:43] <arrrghhh> oren, is kmix running?
[03:44] <majestic> hello,,I was wondering if someone can point me to the direction creating a raid 1 within the installation wizard?
[03:45] <arrrghhh> actually sound has never worked on this laptop with kubuntu.  can someone help me?  kmix is running and i thought it was an issue with it not having an available mixer or whatever, but it seems to be working...  i have volume controls.
[03:46] <arrrghhh> and yes the volume is turned all the way up on both the laptop's manual control and kmix.
[03:48] <arrrghhh> anyone?  keeper?  lol
[03:48] <keeper> do you know if the drivers are installed ?
[03:49] <arrrghhh> i'm not even sure how to troubleshoot the problem.  keeper i have no idea, with every kubuntu installation i've done i never had to install any drivers for sound.
[03:49] <keeper> same laptop each time?
[03:49] <arrrghhh> it looks like they are.  keeper no, i've done a lot of installations of kubuntu.  well, a lot for me at least.  about 10 or so unique machines, and this is the only one i've had sound issues with.
[03:50] <majestic> hello,,I was wondering if someone can point me to the direction creating a raid 1 within the installation wizard?
[03:50] <keeper> can you paste the output from  lspci?
[03:51] <arrrghhh> good lord one sec.
[03:52] <arrrghhh> keeper, http://pastebin.com/d99a6650
[03:52] <arrrghhh> !raid
[03:52] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[03:52] <arrrghhh> majestic, good places to look.
[03:53] <babeck> Does anyone know how to change the transparency of the background of the kde 4 konsole?  I try to change it from Edit Current Profile, and regardless of what setting I put it to, it's still perfectly opaque.
[03:53] <leo_rockw> !kde4 | babeck
[03:53] <ubotu> babeck: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:54] <babeck> leo_rockw: thank you
[03:54] <leo_rockw> babeck: np
[03:54] <arrrghhh> "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-source-2.6.22-2.6.22/fs/inotify.c:172 set_dentry_child_flags()" - i noticed a lot of these errors in dmesg.  what do they mean?
[03:54] <leo_rockw> babeck: i only toyed w/ kde4, if i had the answer i would help you here :-P
[03:55] <babeck> leo_rockw: I wasn't certain how I felt about it until 4.0.1, but now I'm afraid there's no going back for me.
[03:56] <arrrghhh> i should check out 4.0.2.  is there a lot of improvement on the configuration side?
[03:56] <manatatas> are there any screeenshots of newest kde?
[03:56] <leo_rockw> babeck: i have everything tunned up on my 3.5.9... i'm not ready to leave yet lol
[03:57] <leo_rockw> manatatas: the looks of 4.0.2 and 4.0.0 are basically the same. it's just less buggy
[03:57] <babeck> arrrghhh: Honestly, the configuration has gotten better, it's no where near 3.5.
[03:57] <arrrghhh> keeper, did that help?
[03:57] <manatatas> leo_rockw: where can i see it?
[03:57] <leo_rockw> babeck: and there's no amarok 2 yet :-P
[03:57] <arrrghhh> !kde4 | manatatas
[03:57] <ubotu> manatatas: KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[03:57] <leo_rockw> manatatas: i would say you have a good chance of finding screenshots in google
[03:57] <arrrghhh> there's screenshots there
[03:58] <babeck> leo_rockw: good point, but really how do you improve on perfection?
[03:58] <jerbear> anyone using hardy heron yet? how is it?
[03:58] <keeper> yeah, I'm just trying to work out what could be wrong
[03:58] <leo_rockw> babeck: give me my final release amarok 2! lol
[03:58] <arrrghhh> i think... lol
[03:58] <oscar> hi
[03:58] <Jucato> jerbear: #ubuntu+1 please (but it's still in alpha, almost beta)
[03:58] <arrrghhh> keeper, oh ok... yea i have no clue, i've never had to wrestle with sound on any kubuntu install.  i've had to wrestle with video, but never sound.
[03:59] <leo_rockw> hey oscar
[03:59] <babeck> leo_rockw: You see the latest screenshots?  It is starting to shape up pretty well.
[03:59] <leo_rockw> babeck: for amarok? i have it installed
[03:59] <babeck> leo_rockw: oh even better.  how are you liking it?
[04:00] <keeper> arrrghhh, is there any sound if you run the program as root ?
[04:00] <leo_rockw> babeck: i can up a screenshot if you want to see it
[04:00] <arrrghhh> keeper, "the" program?  kmix, or the program that is actually playing the sound?
[04:00] <leo_rockw> babeck: it's still very buggy (like, i would try to run it and it would crash)
[04:00] <babeck> that would be awesome
[04:01] <keeper> yeah ie. kdesu amarok
[04:01] <leo_rockw> babeck: like it happened right now lol: Amarok has crashed! We are terribly sorry about this :(But, all is not lost! Perhaps an upgrade is already available which fixes the problem. Please check your distribution's software repository.
[04:01] <arrrghhh> keeper, i did "sudo vlc" and dragged a video on to it.  no sound.
[04:02] <babeck> leo_rockw: I like the part about an upgrade being available. lol
[04:02] <babeck> leo_rockw: you build it from svn?
[04:02] <leo_rockw> babeck: no, kubuntu repos
[04:02] <leo_rockw> babeck: same way i installed kde4 and koffice 2
[04:03] <oscar> hi everybody, there is any command for check ir my xgl rendering is activated?
[04:04] <babeck> leo_rockw: Ah I think I may already have that.  Does it look like this: http://amarok.kde.org/blog/archives/605-Nearing-first-alpha,-and-lots-of-cool-new-stuff.html
[04:04] <Jucato> not sure about xgl, but in general, it's "glxinfo | grep render"
[04:04] <keeper> just as a side note arrrghhh, use kdesu for running GUI programs rather than sudo,
[04:04] <oscar> I cannot run compiz on my kubuntu Gutsy
[04:04] <oscar> ok Jucato thanks I'l try
[04:05] <arrrghhh> keeper, i also tried vlc (as root) with some plain audio stuff.  the progress bar moves, and if there's video it the video plays.  and sudo vlc worked... i dunno.
[04:05] <leo_rockw> babeck: yeah, but mine has a huge sign on top saying "don't report bugs. pre-alpha means: we know it's unstable"
[04:05] <leo_rockw> babeck: http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5783/amarok1ur2.png
[04:05] <arrrghhh> keeper, kdesu vlc just gave me the gui admin password screen.
[04:06] <oscar> glxinfo | grep render returns direct rendering "yes"
[04:06] <oscar> but i cannot initialize compiz
[04:06] <leo_rockw> oscar: why do you need xgl?
[04:06] <StevenJ> Hello, is anyone here to answer questions about tripple boot?
[04:06] <leo_rockw> babeck: http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/8205/amarok2xs4.png
[04:07] <keeper> it seems there have been alot of problems with intel ICH6 soundcards, but i would have thought the problem would be solved by now as it has been around for awhile
[04:07] <oscar> I am trying to activate compiz
[04:07] <leo_rockw> oscar: what video card?
[04:07] <arrrghhh> jeez amarok has a long way to go before it's final...
[04:07] <leo_rockw> arrrghhh: yup, def
[04:07] <oscar> Intel 945
[04:08] <oscar> leo rockw: im trying the command compiz --replace
[04:08] <leo_rockw> oscar: oh, i was gonna say that both ati and nvidia provide aiglx
[04:08] <babeck> leo_rockw: that's what i've got, I've yet to fall in love with it  yet.
[04:08] <basy> Hi, I'm looking for text editor that can do this: i have 200 lines in file, each 20 chacters and i want to cut lines 101 to 200 and past them to end of lines 1 to 100, so result 100 lines each 40chars...
[04:08] <oscar> it returns checking for Xgl: not present
[04:08] <arrrghhh> keeper, well what's strange is when i set my sound system to ALSA it just continually has the "restarting the sound system" window up, and it goes to 100% and then starts over.  if i set it to "autodetect" it restarts the sound system no problem...
[04:08] <leo_rockw> basy: do a python script
[04:09] <StevenJ> I currently have a couple partions setup. 1ST Primary Partion is XP. 2ND Primary Partion is XP64. The next partion is an extended with 3 logical partions as root / swawp and /home directory. After installing Linux Mint (a build off kubuntu) the computer restarts but no grub was loaded. Any thoughts?
[04:09] <basy> leo_rockw: i have no experience :(
[04:09] <leo_rockw> basy: it's a good time to start learning :-D
[04:09] <oscar> I have ran compiz fusion using ubuntu
[04:09] <leo_rockw> basy: python is really not hard for people without programming experience
[04:09] <oscar> but now in KDE i can't activate it
[04:10] <basy> leo_rockw: how to start?
[04:10] <arrrghhh> StevenJ, have you tried supergrub?
[04:10] <StevenJ> arrrghhh, I keep reading about supergrub, but I downloaded and ran it and wasn't really to sure how it worked.
[04:10] <arrrghhh> linux mint is trash anyways... my that's just my opinion.
[04:11] <arrrghhh> StevenJ, it will attempt to fix grub...
[04:12] <StevenJ> arrrghhh, will it destroy my already functional boot.ini file on my windows partions? And/OR is there a way I can add Linux to my boot.ini on the windows machine?
[04:12] <oscar> leo rockw: i can see that i have activated indirect rendering and the composite extension
[04:12] <leo_rockw> basy: if you go to python.org there is a documentation link on the left
[04:12] <leo_rockw> basy: the guido von rossum manual is the most complete
[04:12] <arrrghhh> StevenJ, you HAVE TO use grub to load linux.  do you really think microshaft would want you using it's bootloader to boot linux?  at any rate, grub will let you choose all your windows installs just fine.
[04:13] <oscar> but, when konsole said: Starting kde-window-decorator...
[04:13] <arrrghhh> at least it always has for me.  make sure they are all listed when it goes to install it over the windows bootloader.
[04:13] <StevenJ> LOL, true.. But people have said that it can be done..
[04:13] <arrrghhh> StevenJ, it's possible, but grub does it for you.  at least it always has for me like i said.
[04:13] <kgoetz> StevenJ: it wont touch your boot.ini - you should be able to chainload the windows bootloader from grub
[04:13] <leo_rockw> basy: you could get dive into python: http://www.diveintopython.org/index.html
[04:13] <arrrghhh> keeper, any other troubleshooting ideas?  everything seems to be working, but there's simply no sound.
[04:14] <kgoetz> StevenJ: fwiw, your not allowed to use ntloader to boot other os's
[04:14] <oscar> "/usr/bin/compiz.real (video) - Warn: No 8 bit GLX pixmap format, disabling YV12 image format"
[04:14] <StevenJ> kgoetz: "fwiw"?
[04:14] <arrrghhh> for what it's worth
[04:14] <StevenJ> Oh ok.
[04:15] <keeper> i found this which seemed to be someone else having a similar problem, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-628342.html
[04:15] <fox> para chat en español
[04:15] <Jucato> !es | fox
[04:15] <ubotu> fox: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[04:16] <oscar> nickname/ onavarrete
[04:16] <StevenJ> Last question is bout partions.. Is the way I set it up sounds correct to you? 1st Primary XP 2nd Primary XP64 3rd Extended with 3 Logical Partions inside of it that are in the order of EXT3 "/", Swap, EXT3 "/home"? Or do you recommend something else?
[04:16] <StevenJ> about*
[04:16] <babeck> Ok, here's how you get Konsole to have transparency in KDE4 (for anyone that cares).  If you have already opened konsole you must kill any instance of konsole you already have running (pkill konsole in one of the ttys) then alt+f2, enter konsole --enable-transparency.
[04:17]  * Jucato wonders why one needs to pkill in a tty to kill konsole
[04:18] <arrrghhh> StevenJ, sounds fine to me.
[04:19] <StevenJ> Alright, I think I'm gonna give supergrub another shot. Thanks alot for you help arrrghhh and kgoetz.
[04:19] <arrrghhh> np
[04:19] <kgoetz> np
[04:19] <arrrghhh> lol creepy
[04:20] <kgoetz> hehe'
[04:20] <StevenJ> LMAO..
[04:20] <leo_rockw> there was a 1 second delay...
[04:20] <leo_rockw> (at least on my end)
[04:20] <keeper> arrrghhh, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-intel8x0
[04:20] <arrrghhh> leo_rockw, bummer? :P
[04:21] <arrrghhh> the internet is soooooo freakin slow in this hotel that it appeared almost instantaneously on my end.
[04:21] <leo_rockw> arrrghhh: it just wasn't as creepy, haha
[04:21] <arrrghhh> meh
[04:21] <arrrghhh> i did a speed test?  i get 23 kilobytes per second downstream.  hooray just bearly above dialup.
[04:22] <leo_rockw> wait... dial-up was 5.6 for me
[04:22] <arrrghhh> yea.  i'm used to a 5 megabit connection.  this might as well be dialup.
[04:23] <leo_rockw> lol
[04:23] <maduser> 20 mbps
[04:23] <leo_rockw> well, not lol, i feel the pain
[04:24] <arrrghhh> 20 megs is freakin hard to get.  how much you pay for that?
[04:24] <arrrghhh> sorry i guess this is all off-topic huh lol
[04:25] <ForgeAus> kgoetz StevenJ: fwiw, your not allowed to use ntloader to boot other os's   ???
[04:25] <ForgeAus> I'm not so sure thats true
[04:25] <ForgeAus> why wouldn't you be allowed?
[04:25] <arrrghhh> i'm wondering if it's the wifi here.  i need to make myself a patch cable at work tomorrow.  and ForgeAus, microshaft doesn't want you to.  it's probably doable, but they don't want you to do it so they're gonna make it very difficult.
[04:26] <ForgeAus> the only reason i know of that ntloader can't boot linux is because it doesn't have a way to use a bootstring.... but you can use a bootsector image (like from using the dd command)
[04:26] <ForgeAus> what do you mean they don't want you to?
[04:26] <ForgeAus> what they wan't doesn't factor into it
[04:26] <arrrghhh> uhm... they don't want you to?  microsoft doesn't want you to?
[04:26] <arrrghhh> well if they wanted you to it would be easy... that's my point.
[04:27] <ForgeAus> who say's it isn't easy? just make a disk dump of the boot sector and refer to it in boot.ini
[04:27] <ForgeAus> and voila
[04:27] <ForgeAus> thats not so difficult is it?
[04:27] <kgoetz> your welcome to, but i dont see why your going to bother tbh
[04:27] <kgoetz> seems like a waste of time
[04:28] <arrrghhh> yea i'm with kgoetz on this one.
[04:28] <ForgeAus> kgoetz I guess it might be... I don' t know, depends on what you need it for
[04:28] <arrrghhh> i mean grub did it all for me.  why would i want to do more work just so i can use the microsoft boot loader?
[04:28] <ForgeAus> but I was just objecting to the whole "not allowed" thing
[04:29] <kgoetz> its not, but thats a seperate issue
[04:29] <ForgeAus> arrghhh what I don't understand is why you need 2 different boot loaders
[04:30] <ForgeAus> they're doing the same job just for different operating systems
[04:30] <keeper> !search partition
[04:30] <ubotu> Found: partitioning, ntfs, disks, fstab, uuid, partition, gparted, ntfs-3g, home, mount-#kubuntu
[04:31] <keeper> !tell keeper about partitioning
[04:31] <kgoetz> ForgeAus: you need two because one hasnt been updated since 1985 and only supports a small number of systems properly (microsofts), and one is contantly updated, and supports multiple os's
[04:32] <arrrghhh> ForgeAus, i use grub.... i don't need 2 bootloaders.
[04:32] <ForgeAus> kgoetz thats not entirely true Vista too has a bootloader, but yet still no support for boot strings
[04:32] <ForgeAus> arrrghhh how do you boot windows? (or isn't windows your other operating system?)
[04:33] <ForgeAus> generally one chains from grub to their windows boot loader...
[04:33] <ForgeAus> which means you are useing 2
[04:33] <arrrghhh> i don't really boot windoze but i select it from grub...
[04:34] <ForgeAus> arrrghhh fine select an os from grub as your primary boot loader but if you want to boot another operating system from there mostly you chain to the other one right?
[04:34] <ForgeAus> really you should only need one
[04:34] <arrrghhh> meh
[04:35] <ForgeAus> (apparently according to microsoft they put some effort into making Vista's boot loader generic)
[04:35] <ForgeAus> but even if thats the case there will probably be nowhere to support a boot string...
[04:35] <arrrghhh> i haven't booted windows in ages, i don't even have it on my main computer anymore just this laptop for games.
[04:36] <mika__> hi all
[04:38] <arrrghhh> hi mika__
[04:38] <mika__> arrrghhh ... hi I have problem with flash not having sound
[04:38] <arrrghhh> just adobe flash in web pages you mean?
[04:39] <mika__> arrrghhh ... nope, installed flash_plugin-non free with adept
[04:39] <mika__> (I'm on 64 bit system) so cant install from adobe website
[04:39] <arrrghhh> well that didn't answer my question exactly but OK.  so you use firefox?
[04:40] <mika__> ahh .. well youtube
[04:40] <arrrghhh> oh flash doesn't work with 64-bit.  i heard you have to run a 32-bit browser... sorry
[04:40] <arrrghhh> i switched back to 32-bit mainly due to the flash issue.  i can't believe adobe still has not released a 64-bit version... i figured adobe would be more on top of it.
[04:40] <mika__> I see
[04:41] <arrrghhh> ja... sorry.  run a 32-bit browser or go back to pure 32-bit.  i didn't notice a difference in performance at all.  until EVERYTHING is 64-bit, i don't think it really matters.
[04:41] <arrrghhh> reboot, brb.
[04:41] <mika__> ok
[04:47] <arrrghhh> still no sound
[04:47] <arrrghhh> and why does kubuntu save all my open programs by default?  i never asked it to do that, it just does.
[04:48] <ForgeAus> what do you mean by "save all your open programs by default" ?
[04:48] <ForgeAus> you mean session management?
[04:49] <arrrghhh> sure.  like i restart... which never works on this machine for some reason... and when i boot back in, it reinstates all the programs i had open when i went to restart it.
[04:51] <ForgeAus> yeah it stores your session information, normally does so because it tries to recover to the same state if you have a crash or something like that
[04:51] <arrrghhh> yea for whatever reason whenever i restart this machine it fills the progress bar and just sits there forever.  i just hold the power button until it turns off.  if i shut it down, it turns off just fine.
[04:52] <ForgeAus> try pressing the enter key instead of turning it off
[04:52] <arrrghhh> can i turn that off?  i want a fresh new session every time.
[04:52] <ForgeAus> um not sure, there probably is a way but I can't think where its set
[04:52] <arrrghhh> it doesn't do anything.  i tried enter, ctrl-alt-del, ctrl-c, ctrl-x.  nothing.
[04:53] <ForgeAus> probably in system-settings administration somewhere I guess
[04:53] <arrrghhh> does anyone know where the session management stuff is?  stupid gnome asks you.
[04:53] <ForgeAus> Jucato would know if he were paying attention, he's probaly asleep or something...
[04:54] <Jucato> System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Session Manager
[04:54]  * Jucato yawns
[04:54] <ForgeAus> see :)
[04:54] <Jucato> I was about too until I got pinged
[04:54] <arrrghhh> ForgeAus, i found it.  oh and you did too lol
[04:54] <ForgeAus> thanx Jucato
[04:55] <arrrghhh> indeed, thank you.  now if i could only get sound working...
[04:55] <Jucato> arrrghhh: just a word of caution, once you start with a completely blank session, some apps that you might have thought were autostarted by default might not be running anymore
[04:55] <Jucato> (kmix, katapult, etc)
[04:55] <arrrghhh> Jucato, yea i ran into that problem before, i just put whatever i needed in autostart.  thanks for mentioning that tho.
[04:59] <psilocyde> Hi folks, Broke my Wireless somehow on my laptop. Can anyone tell me how to get my network setting to default I.e. similar to after A fresh install?
[04:59] <psilocyde> Im running 7.10
[05:00] <Daisuke_Ido> psilocyde: 2 things, was it being controlled by knetworkmanager originally
[05:00] <Daisuke_Ido> ?
[05:01] <Daisuke_Ido> and...  did you go to manual configuration at some point?
[05:01] <psilocyde> Daisuke yes
[05:01] <psilocyde> yes on you sec ?
[05:02] <psilocyde> so yes x2
[05:02] <Daisuke_Ido> psilocyde: kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces
[05:03] <StevenJ> Yea no luck with supergrub. It couldn't even boot the partition.
[05:03] <Daisuke_Ido> psilocyde: and look for your wireless interface in there
[05:04] <Daisuke_Ido> iface wlan0 or ath0 or eth1 or ra0...  something like that
[05:04] <psilocyde> ok its on another install on this machine i would have to reboot
[05:04] <keeper> I'm not sure how to set up LVM partitions using the alternative cd - manual install, is there any related info or documentation on it ?
[05:04] <psilocyde> so what am i looking for? to see if its active? or...
[05:05] <Daisuke_Ido> if it's in that file, remove it
[05:05] <Daisuke_Ido> that will give knetworkmanager control of the interface again
[05:05] <psilocyde> ah ok
[05:05] <Daisuke_Ido> and it should be back to normal
[05:06] <psilocyde> ok so /etc/network/interfaces and remove the entry for my eth card
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> for your wireless
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> whatever that happens to be
[05:07] <psilocyde> ok yes, thank you. will give it a go
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> best of luck, see you in a few
[05:08] <psilocyde> its the intel 3495
[05:08] <psilocyde> if that matters
[05:08] <psilocyde> ok brb
[05:09] <mika__> quick question ... what is the kde version of gdebi, or is there any ?
[05:12] <leo_rockw> mika__: gdebi-kde
[05:12] <foibles> hi there
[05:12] <foibles> im having trouble playing HD video formats
[05:12] <leo_rockw> hey foibles
[05:13] <foibles> they render somewhat pixellated
[05:13] <foibles> leo_rockw, hello there
[05:13] <leo_rockw> i'll be afk for a while
[05:14] <mika__> ok thanks ... umm .. firefox flash still no sound (64 bit)
[05:14] <mika__> bummer
[05:16] <foibles> is there a codec for gutsy missing that doesn't allow for the correct playing of HD media?
[05:20] <some_dud> when I install the server versin, and then kde from the net, the codecs work, but off the dvd, nope
[05:21] <keeper> if you have all the codecs installed, it could be your video drivers
[05:22] <keeper> what video card do you have, and what drivers do you have installed ?
[05:22] <User249> I can't get X to start. I installed KDE 4 on my kubuntu machine to try by adding the launchpad repo. I used the same commands to uninstall as I used to install, but apparantly they were ambiguous and uninstalled parts of my KDE 3 as well.
[05:23] <StevenJ> Whats the difference between: kubuntu-7.10-alternate-i386.iso and kubuntu-7.10-desktop-i386.iso?
[05:23] <User249> these packages were kdebase-bin, kdebase-workspace, kdebase-kde4, kdebase-runtime
[05:23] <User249> i've reinstalled them, and nothing in the X11 log file looks bad, so i'm not sure what's missing
[05:24] <keeper> alternative is just a text based installer, wheras the desktop is the livecd + GUI installer
[05:24] <User249> question: if you bork your KDE installation on Kubuntu, how can you revert it to default?
[05:24] <StevenJ> keeper, thank you very much.
[05:25] <awag22> User249: click on the unbork button
[05:25] <keeper> User249, with or without reinstalling ?
[05:25] <User249> without reinstalling
[05:25] <keeper> np StevenJ
[05:26] <keeper> what has gone wrong with your install, User249 ?
[05:27] <User249> i installed KDE 4 and then went to uninstall it. i didn't realize some of the package names were ambiguous, since the site said they would be separated
[05:27] <StevenJ> Any recommendation on a fast server to download it from keeper?
[05:27] <User249> i basically did this: apt-get install kdebase-bin kdebase-workspace kdebase-kde4 (followed by an install)
[05:27] <User249> (followed by a remove, sorry)
[05:28] <StevenJ> I was trying the USC Santa Barbra, no bueno. And the torrent is going like 6K.. not good either.
[05:28] <keeper> StevenJ, just try to find a mirror as close to you as possible, sometimes your isp will host the image also
[05:29] <StevenJ> I'm with RR... if you happen to know if they have it.. That would be cool. Yea I tried the Santa Barbra server and was only pulling 23K
[05:30] <StevenJ> I'm here in California.
[05:30] <User249> when I boot now it just takes me to a tty
[05:31] <StevenJ> Whats the difference between the CD and the DVD?
[05:31] <keeper> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[05:32] <StevenJ> 4Gbps sounds nice to me..
[05:34] <StevenJ> Ty
[05:35] <foibles> what can i use to format a partition i have as ntfs
[05:35] <foibles> gparted doesn't seem to want to do the job for me
[05:36] <StevenJ> What happened with Gparted?
[05:36] <foibles> it doesn't have it available as an option
[05:36] <foibles> "ntfs" is greyed out
[05:36] <foibles> ive got 11 perfectly good gigs that i need to keep windows readable
[05:36] <StevenJ> Do you have any other partions?
[05:36] <foibles> yeah
[05:37] <StevenJ> Are you trying to create a new ntfs partion from unallocated space? Or are you trying to delete the NTFS partition?
[05:38] <User249> well i found the problem
[05:38] <User249> kdm was no longer installed
[05:38] <foibles> it actually already was ntfs
[05:38] <foibles> as a windows partition
[05:38] <foibles> but i reformatted it to ext3
[05:38] <foibles> and i just want to put it back as ntfs
[05:38] <foibles> how would i delete it clean
[05:39] <StevenJ> You should be able to use Gparted to delete the partion. Then with the free unallocated space be able to create a new ntfs partion. Or just leave it blank and try to format it with a windows XP/Vista disk or 2000 if your still using that.
[05:39] <psilocyde> Daisuke_Ido: Awsome! thank you so much. Im Live and typing!
[05:40] <psilocyde> *awesome even,
[05:41] <psilocyde> thanks again
[05:41] <StevenJ> Did you try deleting the ext3 partion?
[05:41] <foibles> StevenJ, trying that out now
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> awesome :D
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> congratulations, glad that worked for you
[05:44] <psilocyde> yes, im very happy. Now i need to figure out my sound problems
[05:44] <psilocyde> I get very low sound. alsa seems to be busted
[05:44] <psilocyde> or something
[05:45] <foibles> gparted just does it uncannilly fast
[05:45] <foibles> like delete, bam! done
[05:45] <StevenJ> Well its not done until you hit apply...
[05:45] <mika__> psilocyde .. tell me about it, I had my share of sound problems
[05:45] <foibles> leads me to believe it really didn't do anything
[05:45] <foibles> from livecd it always takes a while
[05:45] <psilocyde> ya,
[05:45] <StevenJ> Did you hit apply though?
[05:45] <foibles> StevenJ, yes
[05:46] <mika__> psilocyde ... got all working finally though ..
[05:46] <StevenJ> Did you got back and try to create your NTFS partion on the unallocated space left from deleting that ext3 partion? did it let you?
[05:46] <psilocyde> mika: nice
[05:46] <foibles> doing so right now
[05:46] <foibles> gah, i just had two red bulls
[05:46] <psilocyde> ive got an intel sound chip onboard
[05:46] <mika__> psilocyde .. what sort of sound problem do you have ?
[05:46] <foibles> i feel messed up
[05:46] <psilocyde> been a pain in the but
[05:47] <psilocyde> i get very low volume
[05:47] <StevenJ> Are you going to be loading XP or a Windows OS onto that partion you are creating.. Or is there already xp loaded and your trying to create a second ntfs partion?
[05:47] <psilocyde> alsa mixer is stuck on mute
[05:47] <foibles> its just going to be storage space
[05:48] <foibles> it was formerly my XP partition
[05:48] <mika__> psilocyde .. try recompiling latest alsa
[05:48] <foibles> but i don't need m$ anymore
[05:48] <foibles> and am making a full migration off dual boot
[05:48] <foibles> was having trouble getting fstab to recognize ext3, so im going back to ntfs
[05:49] <psilocyde> explain "recompile" please. Im a linux newb
[05:49] <psilocyde> or ill google
[05:49] <mika__> psilocyde .. let me see if I can get you a link
[05:50] <psilocyde> wonderful
[05:54] <foibles> StevenJ, yup its still greyed out
[05:54] <foibles> after deleting it
[05:54] <foibles> as is xfs
[05:54] <foibles> which would have been my next choice
[05:54] <StevenJ> The only other thing I can think of...
[05:54] <StevenJ> Is boot to XP..
[05:54] <StevenJ> and see if you can delete the partition using the Disk Manager..
[05:55] <StevenJ> And then formating it with NTFS
[05:55] <foibles> StevenJ, i think thats what i did for the other ntfs partition i made
[05:55] <foibles> but thats a real hassle
[05:55] <foibles> its so slow
[05:55] <StevenJ> or using a windows based 3rd party software such as Partion Magic or DriveCopyPro
[05:55] <StevenJ> Click "Quick Format"
[05:55] <StevenJ> then it will go faster..
[05:56] <foibles> perhaps
[05:57] <mika__> psilocyde .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[05:57] <mika__> psilocyde .. took a while to find that
[05:57] <StevenJ> Well sometimes the easier longer way is better then trying to figure out a new way that you don't even know if it will work.
[05:58] <psilocyde> ty so much, didnt seem long at all
[05:58] <StevenJ> Its wierd that Gparted didn't work for you the way you wanted to.. It usually works flawlessly for me. Did it even fully delete that ext3 partion even if it didn't let you format to a ntfs partion?
[05:58] <mika__> psilocyde .. I just recently installed kubuntu and 1st did not have sound at all
[05:58] <psilocyde> i have internet to distract me thanks to you :)
[05:59] <psilocyde> oh wait that was daiku. sorry daiku
[05:59] <StevenJ> You also want to check and see if there are any flags marked on it (if your still in gparted) sometimes there are flags marked that make it do certian things they may hinder what you really want to do with it.
[05:59] <mika__> psilocyde .. so esp that part which explains how to get & compile latest version of ALSA might work for you,
[05:59] <psilocyde> mika__ do you have the intel sound as well
[06:00] <mika__> psilocyde .. yes I have ...
[06:00] <psilocyde> ah cool
[06:00] <mika__> psilocyde .. I'm on 64bit gutsy
[06:01] <psilocyde> ah ok
[06:01] <StevenJ> mika__, out of curiousity, how does the 64 bit run compared to the 32 bit?
[06:01] <mika__> psilocyde .. if you're on 32bit should be easier to get flash working
[06:01] <psilocyde> oh good
[06:01] <StevenJ> Yea I don't believe flash even worked on 64bit XP the last time I was on it..
[06:01] <StevenJ> If that helps you any...
[06:02] <mika__> Stevenj .. honestly I cant tell much difference on performance
[06:02] <StevenJ> Ahh ok..
[06:02] <mika__> Stevenj .. however havent been running this for long ... just 2 days .. mostly trying to get sund working + flash
[06:03] <mika__> Stevenj .. anyways, I managed to get flash working ok .. even with firefox (youtube)
[06:03] <StevenJ> is it adobes flash or some 3rd party?
[06:04] <mika__> Stevenj .. installed flashplugin-non-free from ubuntu repos
[06:04] <StevenJ> ahh..
[06:04] <psilocyde> mika__ i need a bit of hand holding here
[06:05] <psilocyde> could you walk me through it?
[06:05] <mika__> psiloclyde .. you want to compile alsa right ?
[06:05] <psilocyde> yes
[06:06] <mika__> psiloclyde .. are you familiarb with konsole ?
[06:06] <psilocyde> im in there
[06:06] <mika__> psilocyde .. did you download the source files yet ?
[06:06] <psilocyde> i have dl'd the kernal headers from the first link
[06:07] <psilocyde> tools and headers
[06:08] <psilocyde> so now i need to know what files from the ftp
[06:08] <mika__> psilocyde .. and did you install build-essential and other needed (sudo aptitude install build-essential libncurses-dev gettext linux-headers-`uname -)
[06:08] <psilocyde> yes
[06:08] <ar0nic> guys ive got hell of an issue with my media codecs and such, ive installed all nessicary players and codecs
[06:08] <ar0nic> and still get sound and no video
[06:08] <mika__> ipsilocyde .. ok if you have done that ... get the source files from alsa site ...
[06:08] <mika__> psilocyde .. you can use wget also from konsole
[06:09] <ar0nic> i think i may of went package crazy but ive also noticed one more thing, when booting ubuntu for a split second it gives a very distorted screen then switches to the kubuntu loadscreen
[06:09] <psilocyde> theres where i need help. what packages from the alsa site
[06:09] <ar0nic> im going to try out envy although the system has my exact vid card recognized
[06:09] <psilocyde> there are many
[06:10] <mika__> psilocyde .. ok .. go to alsa website http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page
[06:10] <psilocyde> im sorry if im being thick
[06:10] <mika__> psilocyde .. on the top right you see latest versions ..
[06:11] <psilocyde> ok
[06:11] <mika__> psilocyde .. no problem :)
[06:11] <ar0nic> anyone anyone?
[06:12] <Ahmuck> kubuntu hardy channel?
[06:12] <ar0nic> is a distorted screen at bootup if only for a second an indication of bad drivers
[06:12] <mika__> psilocyde .. so you would need alsa-drive, alsa-lib and alsa-utils
[06:13] <mika__> psilocyde .. download those .. that hdaintel howto has pretty good instructions on how to compile them
[06:13] <psilocyde> ok done
[06:14] <mika__> psilocyde .. in konsole follow the instructions from howto site (first link I gave to you)
[06:14] <psilocyde> will do, working with that now thank you
[06:14] <mika__> psilocyde .. great
[06:17] <mika__> psilocyde ... I need to go for a while, good luck with fixing the sound problem
[06:18] <psilocyde> thanks again, take care
[06:18] <mika__> psilocyde .. nb
[06:20] <storbeck> Is sure is quiet on freenode tonight.
[06:20] <ar0nic> yes it is
[06:21] <ar0nic> how you feel about automatix storbeck
[06:21] <storbeck> What is it?
[06:21] <ar0nic> a media package  installer
[06:21] <ar0nic> im having issue with not being able to play any video
[06:21] <ar0nic> sound is a ok
[06:21] <psilocyde> can anyone help where mika__ left off?
[06:21] <ar0nic> video no good
[06:21] <storbeck> I've never used a package installer :P
[06:22] <ar0nic> <--noob
[06:22] <psilocyde> <-----me2
[06:22] <psilocyde> im recompiling the alsa drivers
[06:22] <ar0nic> but ive been all over the net for my issue
[06:22] <psilocyde> getting an error in alsa
[06:22] <ar0nic> and 3 different networks as well
[06:23] <storbeck> w00t for netsplit
[06:23] <ForgeAus> whats the difference between purging and removing packages?
[06:23] <ForgeAus> and how do you reinstall a package with apt-get ?
[06:24] <prince_jammys> purging deletes configuration files, removing doesn't
[06:24] <prince_jammys> so if you remove and then reinstall, your old settings will still be there
[06:24] <psilocyde> says bash: cd: alsa-driver*: No such file or directory
[06:24] <ar0nic> him
[06:24] <ar0nic> hmm*
[06:25] <prince_jammys> ForgeAus: sudo apt-get install --reinstall package_name
[06:25] <ForgeAus> thanx prince :)
[06:32] <foibles> ok
[06:32] <foibles> whats wrong with this fstab line
[06:32] <foibles> UUID=4ABC7316BC72FBAF /media/hda1     ext3    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:33] <foibles> this is not good and proper for me
[06:33] <foibles> as /media/hda1 is only accessable as root
[06:34] <foibles> anyone?
[06:35] <prince_jammys> it mounts properly, other than the permissions?
[06:35] <foibles> prince_jammys, yes
[06:35] <foibles> ubuntu sees it
[06:36] <prince_jammys> maybe uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=007     (if your uid is 1000)
[06:36] <foibles> prince_jammys, it is
[06:36] <foibles> how do i check again?
[06:36] <prince_jammys> echo $UID
[06:37] <foibles> yup
[06:37] <prince_jammys> that's what i use on my NTFS partition
[06:37] <foibles> prince_jammys, it was an ntfs
[06:37] <foibles> now its ext3
[06:37] <foibles> would anything change for that, really?
[06:38] <prince_jammys> i don't know
[06:38] <prince_jammys> you could try those options and remount
[06:38] <ar0nic> for some reason after installing envy drivers i rebooted and it took me straigh to the console...
[06:38] <ere4si> !envy
[06:38] <ubotu> envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[06:38] <foibles> ar0nic, envy is a whack program
[06:39] <ar0nic> im havin an issue getting any videos to play]
[06:39] <ar0nic> sound is fine
[06:39] <ar0nic> everything else is not
[06:39] <ar0nic> and i notice some display when first booting ubuntu
[06:40] <ar0nic> display corruption
[06:40] <storbeck> This is taking longer to compile than a stage 1 gentoo install with all unsupported hardware
[06:40] <ar0nic> then it gives me the kubuntu logo then jumps over to a distorted screen then jumps back
[06:41] <ar0nic> and does this twice while loading
[06:41] <asobi> using nvidia?
[06:41] <ar0nic> ati
[06:41] <ar0nic> hey guys
[06:41] <ar0nic> im trying to load and im getting this message
[06:41] <ar0nic> no resume image, doing normal boot
[06:42] <ar0nic> then it takes me straight to my root login
[06:42] <ere4si> ar0nic, remove envy and use the resticted drivers manager then we can helop
[06:42] <ere4si> *help
[06:42] <ar0nic> ok but i cant get back into kubuntu
[06:42] <ar0nic> how do i load up the kde from console?
[06:42] <storbeck> ar0nic, login via text prompt and use startx
[06:43] <ar0nic> no screens found
[06:43] <ar0nic> i think i broke it with envy
[06:43] <ar0nic> fatal io error 104
[06:43] <ar0nic> no devices detected =|
[06:43] <storbeck> lol, good luck
[06:44] <ar0nic> try safe graphics mode
[06:44] <ar0nic> then remove envy
[06:44] <ar0nic> then hopefully ill be back in
[06:44] <foibles> ar0nic, you have fubar'd your system
[06:44] <ar0nic> fuck it im goin to format and reinstall
[06:44] <foibles> envy is horrid
[06:44] <foibles> ar0nic, sorry that happened to you
[06:44] <ar0nic> ok well put yourself in my situation for a second bro
[06:44] <ar0nic> tell me what you would do
[06:44] <foibles> ar0nic, ive been where you are
[06:45] <ar0nic> you want to use this as a basic web and media box
[06:45] <ar0nic> all of my movies music etc is on my windows box
[06:45] <foibles> i just moved my stuff to safe space, then reformatted/reinstalled
[06:45] <ar0nic> ive got samba taken care of and i can share files
[06:45] <ar0nic> but none of my files work with the usual codec package installs
[06:45] <ar0nic> sound will work no video
[06:45] <foibles> ar0nic, were you having problems getting video card drivers to work the old fashioned way?
[06:45] <ar0nic> this is with almost every player
[06:46] <foibles> is the box you're using relatively new?
[06:46] <foibles> using kubuntu gutsy?
[06:46] <ar0nic> no foibles in fact it identified my card in a command someone gave me
[06:46] <ar0nic> i wish i could remember it
[06:46] <ar0nic> but it read it out what it is word for word
[06:46] <ar0nic> p4
[06:46] <ar0nic> laptop
[06:46] <foibles> ar0nic, i always had an easier time getting my stuff to work with ubuntu, not kubuntu
[06:47] <foibles> and i installed the kubuntu-desktop packages after the fact
[06:47] <foibles> so you don't know the name of your video card?
[06:47] <ar0nic> no of course i do
[06:47] <ar0nic> raedon mobility 7500c
[06:47] <foibles> ar0nic, what is it
[06:47] <foibles> ati seems to have problems more often than not
[06:47] <ar0nic> but i used a command someone gave me and it out verbatim
[06:48] <foibles> ar0nic, try installing ubuntu rather than kubuntu
[06:48] <foibles> its easier to configure stuff
[06:48] <ar0nic> lspci |grep vga
[06:48] <ar0nic> heh im already midway thru a format
[06:48] <foibles> yep
[06:48] <ar0nic> under that it displayed the exact card in the pc
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> foibles: you didn't just recommend that he reformat to install ubuntu did you?
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> ubuntu-desktop
[06:48] <foibles> Daisuke_Ido, i said that once upon a time, thats what i did
[06:48] <ar0nic> so that would generally mean its got it configured properly
[06:48] <Daisuke_Ido> that's all that's needed
[06:49] <ar0nic> Daisuke_Ido?
[06:49] <ere4si> ar0nic, you don't need to reinstall - boot into recovery console - type dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose vesa as the video driver - then reboot and remove envy
[06:49] <ar0nic> ive only had one issue
[06:49] <foibles> Daisuke_Ido, nay, he used envy and it fubar'd his system
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> ouch
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> ere4si has the answer then
[06:49] <Daisuke_Ido> envy is evil.
[06:49] <foibles> it is
[06:50] <ar0nic> after i set vesa tho is it going to play my vids and stuff?
[06:50] <foibles> it messes up your system one way or another
[06:50] <foibles> ar0nic, yes
[06:50] <psilocyde> daisuku!
[06:50] <psilocyde> hi
[06:50] <psilocyde> lil help getting my sound card up and running?
[06:50] <psilocyde> i get low sound output
[06:50] <psilocyde> low volume that is
[06:51] <ar0nic> like i said guys i did a standard install and added all the packages you would need to play divx avi's and such but i would only get sound..
[06:51] <psilocyde> i have recompiled alsa
[06:51] <ere4si> ar0nic, after you remove envy we'll get the vid card set up right
[06:51] <psilocyde> with the latest version
[06:51] <ar0nic> k
[06:52] <ar0nic> wherre is recovery console...?
[06:52] <ar0nic> sorry =x
[06:52] <psilocyde> now when i do a cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec          i get a           cat: /proc/asound/card0/codec#*: No such file or directory
[06:52] <ere4si> ar0nic, at the grub menu - the second option
[06:53] <ar0nic> so dont use the cd?
[06:53] <ere4si> no
[06:53] <ar0nic> got it
[06:53] <ar0nic> its loading
[06:54] <ere4si> k :)
[06:55] <ar0nic> auto detect?
[06:55] <ar0nic> or choose it my self?
[06:56] <ere4si> choose vesa ar0nic
[06:56] <foibles> ere4si, he has an ati video card
[06:56] <ere4si> and envy
[06:58] <ar0nic> default bus identifier?
[06:58] <ar0nic> ?
[06:58] <ar0nic> what about automatix i also installed that is that evil as well?
[06:58] <ar0nic> default bus identifer guys?
[06:58] <prince_jammys> yes, evil also
[06:58] <prince_jammys> !automatix
[06:58] <ubotu> automatix is not recommended, supported or needed. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubotu WorksForMe »
[06:59] <ar0nic> memory size should be blank as well i take it>?
[06:59] <ere4si> y
[07:01] <ar0nic> postinst warning overwriting possibly customized config. file back up /etc/x11.......
[07:01] <ar0nic> took me back to root
[07:02] <ar0nic> start x is loading it...
[07:02] <ar0nic> scanline heaven. lol it looks like shit
[07:02] <ar0nic> but im in
[07:03] <foibles> ar0nic, use the driver manager in kde console to load the proper video drivers for your card
[07:03] <foibles> or have you already tried that
[07:03] <ere4si> ar0nic, envy comes with a readme that tells how to uninstall it
[07:03] <ar0nic> havent....
[07:03] <ar0nic> ive booted back into  the kde
[07:08] <ar0nic> formatting.
[07:10] <ar0nic> apparently what im wanting to do is very easy and generally does it on its own and its not on my end...ive also went codec crazy so t hat couldnt help, apparently my vid card wasnt setup properly and then installed envy and nwo its fubard
[07:10] <ar0nic> after i redid the xorg.cfg the touchpad didnt work the vid was terrible
[07:11] <ar0nic> couldnt change resolution etc etc etc
[07:12] <ere4si> ar0nic, start again pal
[07:32] <sniper> де я? :)
[07:33] <ere4si> sniper, in english pls
[07:33] <imboscat> sniper: there is ubuntu channel for your language
[07:35] <sniper> i'm not english... i'm ukraine
[07:37] <ere4si> !sl
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sl - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:40] <storbeck> !sld
[07:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sld - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <storbeck> sniper, What language do you speak?
[07:44] <ere4si> !uk
[07:44] <ubotu> Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk
[07:44] <ere4si> hehe
[07:45] <ar0nic> ere4si
[07:45] <ar0nic> you still around?
[07:45] <ere4si> k
[07:45] <ar0nic> fresh install
[07:45] <ar0nic> lets get the drivers goin
[07:46] <ere4si> ar0nic, find the driver manager
[07:46] <sniper> i speak ukrainian, russian
[07:46] <storbeck> !ru
[07:46] <ubotu> Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[07:46] <ar0nic> throw me a bone bro lol
[07:47] <ere4si> I"m on my fluxbox atm
[07:47] <ar0nic> restricted drivers?
[07:47] <sniper> dyakyu!
[07:47] <storbeck> np
[07:47] <ere4si> ar0nic, what is the lappy brand and model - for a howto
[07:47] <storbeck> I think that says thanks anyway
[07:47] <ar0nic> fuck me havent had to find t hat out in ages
[07:47] <ar0nic>  lol
[07:48] <ere4si> ar0nic, watch the language buddy :)
[07:48] <storbeck> !ohmy | ar0nic
[07:48] <ubotu> ar0nic: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[07:48] <ar0nic> hp zt1000
[07:48] <ar0nic> sorry
[07:48] <ar0nic> sorry guys
[07:48] <ar0nic> quick on the ! you guys
[07:49] <ar0nic> ok well it says there are no propietary drivers in use under restricted drivers
[07:50] <ere4si> ar0nic, 7200 mobility right?
[07:51] <ar0nic> 7500
[07:51] <ar0nic> 7500c
[07:51] <ere4si> k brb
[07:57] <ere4si> ar0nic, this post on the forums - http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3637569&postcount=9 - suggests that doing   sudo dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg and choosin ati for the vid driver and adding three lines to xorg.conf is all that is needed for compiz and a great display
[07:57] <storbeck> !tablet
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tablet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:58] <ar0nic> ok what about a start for codecs and players
[07:58] <ar0nic> vlc id like to use
[07:59] <ar0nic> is visual effects why i cant watch videos?
[07:59] <ere4si> ar0nic, no - if you install vlc all codecs will be handled :)
[07:59] <storbeck> What file extension is the video?
[08:00] <ar0nic> avi divx mpeg
[08:00] <ar0nic> havent installed any other packages yet
[08:00] <storbeck> Did you install the restricted drivers?
[08:00] <ar0nic> ah yeh
[08:00] <ar0nic> forgot about those
[08:00] <ere4si> gotta go for a bit :)
[08:01] <ar0nic> what is it again apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-drivers
[08:01] <ar0nic> ?
[08:01] <storbeck> I believe so
[08:01] <storbeck> I don't use Ubuntu :]
[08:05] <ar0nic> whats the easieste way to edit the xorg.conf?
[08:05] <storbeck> With vim :]
[08:06] <storbeck> Or if you're looking to completely reconfigure it
[08:06] <storbeck> !xserver-xorg
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver-xorg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <storbeck> !xserver
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:07] <ar0nic> i think ill get it
[08:07] <storbeck> !xconfig
[08:07] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg » - To configure only the driver and resolution, type « sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh » - See also !FixRes
[08:07] <storbeck> There we go :]
[08:07] <ar0nic> right now im seeing if a simple vlc install will play the file
[08:07] <ar0nic> i installed restricted manager
[08:07] <ar0nic> and vlc
[08:07] <storbeck> Ok
[08:09] <ar0nic> fail =|
[08:09] <ar0nic> no vid
[08:09] <storbeck> Try running it though a terminal and look for error messages.
[08:10] <ar0nic> k
[08:11] <ar0nic> heh i dunno the commands =x
[08:15] <blah> hi
[08:15] <blah> what do i do when my kde desktop stops working?
[08:15] <blah> what happened is that starting korganizer, kmail or kontact, as well as konversation is impossible, it uses ALL CPU and ALL MEMORY and never becomes usable
[08:19] <blah> i deleted korgacrc, but it doesn't help
[08:19] <blah> i do not want to delete the rest of the config data, it has too much value!
[08:19] <blah> hm, this place is dead
[08:19] <jojo_> hi there
[08:20] <jojo_> is kde 4 in hardy kubuntu has less bugs now
[08:25] <blah> jojo_: kde4 is still at least 6 months form being usable for daily work
[08:27] <noaXess> is there a tool to rotate the screen?
[08:27] <jojo_> thx blah
[08:28] <ar0nic> hey in console how would i change directorys like if i wanted to edit the xorg.conf file
[08:28] <ar0nic> im in root now.....
[08:29] <jojo_> can i used the kde4 in kubuntu hardy 64bit with less bugs or continue using it with less bus, is thqat right?
[08:30] <Elite> ar0nic: to change directories type: "cd <directory name>" without the quotes or the <>'s
[08:31] <ar0nic> is there a way to change that config in the gui?
[08:31] <ar0nic> !fixres
[08:31] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:35] <ere4si> ar0nic, type sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:36] <apparle> ere4si: Thanks man, you solved my problem of OSS and Kmix
[08:36] <apparle>  :)
[08:36] <yuri_> hi ppl
[08:37] <apparle> hi yuri_
[08:37] <ere4si> apparle, yah for you :)
[08:37] <yuri_> i got i little problem here, i had connect my phone sony ericsson w200 to my linux kubuntu, the first time had reconigse it , but now no, what can i do?
[08:37] <yuri_> :(
[08:39] <needhelp> hi to install kubuntu into my macbook (intel base) which version of kubuntu to use? the powerpc one?
[08:39] <yuri_> i got i little problem here, i had connect my phone sony ericsson w200 to my linux kubuntu, the first time had reconigse it , but now no, what can i do?
[08:40] <storbeck> w00t. Finally got conky configured how I want it
[08:41] <yuri_> can some one help me on that?
[08:41] <jojo_> hi, i just wanna know your feedback in kde4 install in kubuntu hardy 64 bit
[08:43] <yuri_> i think all are bussy but ty anyways :)
[08:43] <apparle> yuri_: I don't know anything about linux and mobiles
[08:43] <yuri_> i only need to know how to make it recognize =P
[08:43] <needhelp> how to check my version of kubuntu
[08:47] <RogueJediX> Anyone have a clue why my KDE style won't apply to QT apps?
[08:47] <ere4si> !version | needhelp
[08:47] <ubotu> needhelp: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell
[08:49] <apparle> yuri_: have you tried ubuntu forums?
[08:49] <yuri_> no
[08:49] <yuri_> im newbie
[08:49] <yuri_> got like 4 days
[08:50] <apparle> yuri_: http://ubuntuforums.org/ Go there and search if there is a similar thread.
[08:51] <yuri_> k ty!!
[08:52] <apparle> bye
[08:53] <senorpedro> hi folks
[08:53] <senorpedro> my alt-f2 quickstarter doesnt work, how can i make it work again?
[08:56] <magical> hi, as of 2 days ago my cd-rom drive tray opens every time I log into kde.. any ideas why this could be?
[09:00] <ere4si> magical, my first thought on that is a badly installed rootkit - install and run chkrootkit
[09:04] <magical> :<
[09:05] <magical> chkrootkit sees nothing
[09:05] <magical> err wait
[09:05] <magical> Checking `bindshell'... INFECTED (PORTS:  6667)
[09:06] <magical> oh wait, mr google says that's nothing to worry about
[09:07] <pushax> isn't 6667 a eMule port?
[09:07] <storbeck> Isn't 6667 IRC
[09:07] <magical> yeah, it's IRC
[09:07] <magical> I don't use emule
[09:08] <magical> http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/chkrootkit_portsentry/ < that page says those messages are fine though
[09:08] <magical> so I still dunno what's up with my cd tray D:
[09:08] <pushax> oh yeah IRC port
[09:08] <pushax> my mind is going.  I'm in love.
[09:09] <magical> lol
[09:09] <pushax> with kubuntu.  heheh
[09:14] <zzillezz> why is it that when i install xchat in kubuntu kde4 alpha 6, that it doesn't make a shortcut in the start panel ?
[09:20] <pushax> zzillezz: you should ask that in the kde4 channel of kubuntu
[09:20] <apparle> !kde4
[09:20] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[09:29] <martiini> anyone have samba working in kde4? windows network browsing is not enabled by default in kubuntu-kde4. Ive installed all samba packages but it stil doesnt work
[09:29] <pushax> !KDE4
[09:29] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.2 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.2 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.2.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.2.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[09:31] <martiini> does samba work in kubuntu?
[09:31] <jussi01> martiini: in 3.5.8 it does, yes
[09:31] <martiini> can you browse windows networks in kubuntu by default or does samaba need to be configured
[09:32] <martiini> howcome It wont find any windows shares in kubuntu-kde4 even with all samba packages installed
[09:33] <jussi01> martiini: please ask these questions in the correct place (#kubuntu-kde4)
[09:34] <pucko-> how can I tell kde4 to use $HOME/Desktop4 instead of Desktop?
[09:34] <pucko-> for some reason I got all my icons from my kde3 desktop on kde4 as well :/
[09:34] <jussi01> pucko-: #kubuntu-kde4
[09:34] <pucko-> oh ok.
[09:34] <jussi01> :)
[09:37] <noaXess> !backup
[09:37] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> pucko-, thats because you are running both. Some apps still use kde3
[09:42] <pucko-> ActionParsnip, oh. I see.
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> pucko-, until all your apps use kde4 you will have both sets of libs
[09:44] <pucko-> I know, but I just don't want my icons from kde3 to show up on my kde4 desktop...
[09:44]  * jussi01 pokes ActionParsnip over to #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> jussi01, its a small bit of info, nothing earth shattering :D
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> pucko-, head over to kde4 chan for that stuff
[09:45] <jussi01> ActionParsnip: if you were there, youd know he is too
[09:45] <jussi01> :)
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> nar im only here and in ##windows
[09:50] <noaXess> is it possible with dd to see any progress statistic?.. normaly if dd is running, no stat will be given.. only when the process is ended
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> noaXess, http://fosswire.com/2007/08/10/command-line-progress-bar-a-progress-bar-for-dd/
[09:54] <noaXess> ActionParsnip: aha :) okay.. thanks
[10:07] <karsten_> hi
[10:30] <cicero123> hello room
[10:33] <jpatrick> !hi | cicero123
[10:33] <ubotu> cicero123: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:36] <cicero123> hey jpatrick, thanx
[10:36] <cicero123> one month on kubuntu and counting
[10:37] <Jucato> congrats :)
[10:38] <cicero123> i tried to install kubuntu on my friends laptop, a dell with vista. i got a grub failure and now i need to use qparted to delete it and reactivate the ms partion. do i need to activate the vista partition or one of the others?
[10:38] <cicero123> thanks jucato
[10:43] <cicero123> anybody know how use qparted?
[10:44] <ForgeAus> yes
[10:44] <ForgeAus> cicero what do you need?
[10:45] <cicero123> i have a dell laptop running vista. i tried to load kubuntu on it last week but got a fatal grup error. i was told to use qparted to delete the linix partition but i cant get it to delete
[10:45] <ForgeAus> qtparted should be able to delete a partition as long as its not mounted
[10:46] <ForgeAus> do you have a live cd?
[10:46] <cicero123> yes i am running live cd on it now.
[10:46] <ForgeAus> ok what does qtparted show?
[10:46] <cicero123> i am typing thru my desktop
[10:46] <ForgeAus> (you can type thru the live cd :) it has konversation :)
[10:48] <cicero321> hello, i am now on the laptop. here is a screenshot
[10:48] <ForsakenSoul> can someone tell me how to restore a backup in shell
[10:49] <ForsakenSoul> hello ?
[10:51] <cicero321> hmm. i guess i cant paste a screen shot. sorry.
[10:51] <ForgeAus> hello :) I can't answer you forsakensoul because I don't know much about linux backups
[10:51] <ForgeAus> hehe cicero thats right well not in IRC anyway
[10:51] <ForgeAus> IRC is text only..
[10:51] <ForgeAus> (ascii art is about the closest you get to pictures aside from DCC's (file transfer)
[10:51] <jpatrick> imageshackus :)
[10:52] <jpatrick> .us*
[10:52] <ForgeAus> jpatrick is that like pastebin for pix?
[10:52] <ForgeAus> just out of curiousity what filetype is it Forsaken?
[10:53] <ForsakenSoul> jpatrick hey :D
[10:53] <cicero321> ForgeAus: k. i have a 80 gig hard drive with sda-1 deleted, and sda2 (the vista stuff) shrunk at 28 gigs
[10:54] <cicero321> when i try to delete the linux part it reads, " partition is mounted"
[10:57] <cicero321> if i am guessing correctly i need to unmount the penquins and delete them, and then expand the ms partition
[10:59] <cicero321> jpatrick: sorry i didnt mean to ignore you. i know enough about stuff to be dangerous but not well enough to not mess things up
[11:01] <user5>  hi
[11:01] <user5> ciao
[11:01] <user5> someone using xvidcap on kubuntu 804?
[11:01] <user5> I have some problem in configuration testing zero
[11:01] <user5> :(
[11:01] <user5> thank you
[11:02] <user5> I asked also in ubuntu+1
[11:02] <user5> without resultation
[11:04] <ForgeAus> yes cicero
[11:04] <ForgeAus> you need to unmount the partition
[11:05] <ForgeAus> (in a konsole window type: sudo umount /dev/<partition code>
[11:05] <ForgeAus> (generally partition code is something like hda1 or sda3 qtparted will tell you what its called)
[11:06] <ForgeAus> I don't know if qtparted will let you expand the partition size of an ntfs drive or not
[11:12] <cicero321> ForgeAus: sda5 ext 3?
[11:13] <ForgeAus> possibly
[11:13] <cicero321> sudo unmount /dev/sda5
[11:13] <ForgeAus> it makes sense linux would be on an ext3 type partition
[11:14] <ForgeAus> yes
[11:15] <cicero321> ForgeAus: command not found
[11:20] <ForgeAus> thats because you typed uNmount instead of umount
[11:20] <cicero321> k
[11:22] <cicero321> it zays not mounted, but it does show in qparted as active
[11:22] <cicero321> it will now let me delete it
[11:23] <cicero321> ForgeAus: delete the penguins?
[11:24] <cicero321> sda 5-8 are ext and two linux swap files
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> cicero123, if you just run mount with no options it will show what is mounted
[11:26] <ForgeAus> cicero careful which partition your removing
[11:26] <ForgeAus> (or partiions)
[11:26] <ForgeAus> any you do remove will delete ALL data on that partition
[11:26] <cicero321> 11 lines of mountedness
[11:27] <cicero321> yes the grup installer had a " catastrophic error"  and i was told that i needed to use qparted to delete it and rerun the install
[11:27] <cicero321> *grub
[11:28] <cicero321> i got a microkernel error 58000 or something and then a black screen with grup error 17
[11:28] <cicero321> *grub
[11:29] <cicero321> so i ran the live cd again and am using qparted to remove kubuntu and go back to how it was originally
[11:30] <cicero321> a dell vista laptop with media select and fat 32 swap partitions
[11:30] <cicero321> and then i want to try another live cd disk to repartion the laptop and put kubuntu on.
[11:31] <ForsakenSoul> can someone help me
[11:31] <cicero321> i am so afraid of messing her laptop up. i didnt find out she hasnt done any backup to her laptop until i was already installing kubuntu
[11:31] <ForsakenSoul> my net doesn't seem to work in text mdoe
[11:31] <ForsakenSoul> mode
[11:33] <cicero321> ForgeAus: okay i deleted the partition
[11:33] <cicero321> i still have two linux swap files showing that it wont let me delete. are those for the live cd?
[11:33] <ForgeAus> no
[11:33] <ForgeAus> perhaps one is
[11:34] <ForgeAus> but I'd unmount all swaps if at all possible
[11:34] <ForgeAus> in fact umount -a I think is the command (you may or may not need to use sudo before the command depending on if you have privileges or not
[11:34] <ForgeAus> its best to keep just one swap partition
[11:36] <ForsakenSoul> can someone please help me .... i've curently messed up my system and i'm trying to install the desktop file again but in text mode my pc has no net
[11:37] <ForgeAus> forsaken that sonds bad
[11:37] <cicero321> ForgeAus: it says that they arent mounted, but i cant get them to delet
[11:37] <ForgeAus> you can use the live cd to reinstall but that will give you a "Fresh" kubuntu
[11:37] <ForgeAus> (ie you'll loose any settings/files you had)
[11:38] <ForgeAus> what does it say when you try to delete them?
[11:39] <ForsakenSoul> ForgeAus any suggestions
[11:39] <ForsakenSoul> how i can start the eth0 in the text mode
[11:39] <ForsakenSoul> yeah i can reinstall but i've just installed it yesterday :D
[11:39] <cicero321> there is no option in qparted to delete.it is " greyed" out
[11:45] <de4snake> hello after messing around with my xorg.conf to solve a resolution problem, all my fonts appear bigger than they should. can ne1 please have a look at my xorg.conf?
[11:46] <pucko-> de4snake, have you specified the 100dpi fonts before the 75dpi ones?
[11:46] <de4snake> pucko-: where do i do that?
[11:47] <cicero123> ForgeAus: at this point i just want to get vista working on her computer. do ineed to set one of the ms partitions to active or  can i just reboot with an two swap files?
[11:48] <de4snake> heres my mess in xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/59575/
[11:48] <sigma_1234> what syntax should i use when searching for files in konqueror?
[11:49] <Jucato> syntax?
[11:50] <sigma_1234> its some *. thing before the keyword. but i have forgotten it. if you dont use it it wont work
[11:50] <ForgeAus> cicero I'm having trouble with that you have 2 swap files
[11:51] <ForgeAus> first of all they're not files they're partitions if they're linux swap ones in qtparted
[11:51] <ForgeAus> second of all theres no need for more than one
[11:52] <icewaterman> is there a native tool to defragment fat32 on linux?
[11:52] <cicero321> when i set up the install the first time it was interrupted, and so i installed it a second time and made a mess
[11:53] <cicero321> ForgeAus: i am trying to undo the mess, and get vista running again, and hopefully retry.
[11:54] <pucko-> de4snake, i have no idea. looks ok to me.
[11:54] <de4snake> :(
[11:55] <cicero321> ForgeAus: i am not used to laptop mouse controlpads. i got frustrated and started tapping it, and in the process the install stopped in the middle.
[11:57] <cicero123> ForgeAus: so i restarted it and ended up with a mess
[11:58] <ForgeAus> cicero then why don't you use the vista setup and start clean with a single partition
[11:58] <kuser51> i dowloaded and install the compiz fusion, why can,t activate?
[11:58] <cicero123> because she didnt make a backup of her stuff
[11:58] <ForgeAus> vista has diskpart, it may not know what the partitions are (they'll show up as unknwon unless they're fat or ntfs)
[11:58] <cicero123> and she is going to be prety mad
[11:58] <kuser51> what i can do to run my compiz
[11:58] <ForgeAus> juyst remove all unknown partitions
[11:58] <cicero123> ic
[11:59] <kuser51> the csm is already...but i can't enabled or activate the compiz fusion
[11:59] <cicero123> k
[11:59] <kuser51> is any configuration start the new one....
[11:59] <cicero123> i am rebooting the laptop
[11:59] <ForgeAus> I still don't know how your going to grow and/or shrink the one you want vista on
[11:59] <cicero123> :(
[12:00] <ForgeAus> ask in #windows they might know
[12:00] <ForgeAus> (or you could download hirens boot cd theres lots of partitioning tools on that)
[12:00] <cicero123> hirens?
[12:00] <kuser51> please help me to resolve my problem
[12:00] <jussi01> kuser51: which gfx card?
[12:00] <kuser51> nvidia
[12:01] <jussi01> kuser51: have you followed the tutorial?
[12:01] <ForgeAus> yes do a search for it, (its kind of a win98 LiveCD with lotsa extra partitioning, diagnostics and so on tools)
[12:01] <jussi01> !compiz | kuser51
[12:01] <kuser51> of course not
[12:01] <ubotu> kuser51: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:01] <cicero123> ForgeAus: k. i will do that
[12:01] <kuser51> if video card can the effect
[12:02] <cicero123> ForgeAus: k. how do i get to the visa diskpart?
[12:02] <ForgeAus> its built into vista setup (if its anything like XP's)
[12:02] <kuser51> i mean the vdeo card configuration
[12:02] <jussi01> kuser51: go follow the tutorial, if you have any probs, ask here then
[12:03] <cicero123> ForgeAus:thank you for your help. i really appreciate it very much
[12:13] <cicero123> ForgeAus: i cant find it. i only goes into the dell bios, or into grub error 17
[12:15] <cicero123> ForgeAus: wow. it jest went inot a psa+ pre-boot system analysis...
[12:15] <ForgeAus> cicero? does vista have a recovery console option?
[12:15] <ForgeAus> (to boot into a recovery console?)
[12:16] <ForgeAus> if so run the command fixboot with it
[12:16] <ForgeAus> this is more in the realm of #windows than #Kubuntu
[12:17] <ForgeAus> I'm not all that vista-savvy really
[12:17] <cicero123> ForgeAus: it wont boot into anything but the hd (grub), cd player, nic card, or the system anylizer
[12:17] <ForgeAus> what did it used to do?
[12:17] <cicero123> ForgeAus: load into vista
[12:17] <ForgeAus> well boot into the CD drive with a Vista CD
[12:18] <ForgeAus> and see what options it gives you, I'd be looking for a recovery console and to use the command fixboot if at all possible
[12:18] <cicero123> ForgeAus: k
[12:18] <cicero123> i have to wait until the duo core processor gets done testing itself. :(
[12:18] <ForgeAus> ok
[12:19] <cicero123> reminds me of dual carbs on my dads old galaxy
[12:23] <martiini> an option to cascade all minimized windows MUST be added to kde4 panel
[12:30] <cicero123> ForgeAus: the boot disk wants to reinstall vista
[12:31]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[12:31] <ForgeAus> cicero ask in #windows
[12:31] <cicero123> k. thank you again for all your help.
[12:32] <cicero123> it is  past my bedtime. goodnight all.
[12:32] <cicero123> i will go to windows when i wake up.
[12:47] <pjoter> jiiiha
[12:47] <pjoter> hello
[12:47] <jussi01> hi
[12:48] <pjoter> running kubuntu finally
[12:48] <jussi01> :)
[12:48] <dthacker> yay!
[12:48] <pjoter> hey how to change tab in here?
[12:48] <pjoter> ctrl tab doesn't work. ctrl page up/down neither
[12:48] <dthacker> !keymaps
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keymaps - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <pjoter> cool tho
[12:48] <pjoter> !keymaps
[12:48] <pjoter> hold on
[12:48] <pjoter> i have to eat
[12:48] <jussi01> pjoter: alt + arrow iirc
[12:48] <pjoter> aah ok
[12:49] <pjoter> gr3eat thx!
[12:49] <pjoter> bbl
[12:49] <jussi01> !enter | pjoter
[12:49] <ubotu> pjoter: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[12:52] <pushax> new skype release !
[12:58] <tracker> zdr
[12:58] <tracker> :)
[12:58] <tracker> kvo staa
[12:58] <jussi01> tracker: ??
[12:59] <tracker> exoooooooooo
[12:59] <tracker> from ?
[12:59] <jussi01> tracker: can we help you?
[13:01] <Combatjuan> So I have my apt-get upgrade process running in konsole but I want to restart my X server and there is still lots more time left on the upgrade.  Is there a way in *nix to change the location of a process in the tree so that it's no longer owned by konsole but say, by init?  Does what I asked even make sense?
[13:03] <roxx> hallo
[13:03] <jussi01> Combatjuan: understand what you mean, but i dont think so...
[13:03] <jussi01> hi roxx
[13:04] <Combatjuan> jussi01: Ok.  Thanks.
[13:04] <pjoter> hello again
[13:04] <roxx> why my console didnt find the beryl package?
[13:04] <pjoter> how to view the command list in here as /commands didn't work?
[13:05] <jpatrick> !beryl | roxx
[13:05] <ubotu> roxx: Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[13:05] <jpatrick> pjoter: /help ?
[13:05] <pjoter> neither
[13:05] <jussi01> pjoter: it puts it in a different tab methinks
[13:05] <pjoter> oh hey you're right. thx!
[13:06] <jussi01> :)
[13:06] <roxx> so whats the new command?
[13:06] <roxx> thx
[13:06] <jussi01> pjoter: which client are you using?
[13:06] <jussi01> !compiz | roxx
[13:06] <ubotu> roxx: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[13:06] <pjoter> i just booted the kubuntu live cd. konverstation it says
[13:06] <jussi01> pjoter: yeah, the tabs are clickable in that also
[13:06] <roxx> ty!
[13:06] <jussi01> :)
[13:07] <pjoter> !enter | pjoter
[13:07] <pjoter> ^^
[13:07] <jussi01> pjoter: now you got a pm from the bot!
[13:07] <pjoter> yea i did hehe
[13:07] <jussi01> :)
[13:07] <pjoter> hey cool
[13:08] <pjoter> i could imagine totally switching to linux
[13:08] <pjoter> i have to think about the programs i need and whether there are suitable alternatives. but seems so right now
[13:08] <pjoter> as irc works ^^
[13:09] <pjoter> hey have you experiences with nmap, tcpdump on wireless network devices jussi01?
[13:09] <jussi01> pjoter: used, but not overly experienced, why?
[13:09] <pjoter> in windows my network device just crashes and i have to reboot. because of winpcap i guess. perhaps not so in linux.
[13:10] <jussi01> pjoter: which wireless card?
[13:10] <pjoter> prism something
[13:10] <pjoter> hold on
[13:10] <jussi01> pjoter: open konsole (under system) and type: lspci
[13:10] <pjoter> cool i wanted to ask what to type in the console right now ^^
[13:11] <jussi01> :)
[13:11] <pjoter> hey is there a "run" command?
[13:11] <jussi01> pjoter: what do you mean?
[13:11] <pjoter> like i press ctrl+r and a window appears to enter a command
[13:11] <pjoter> to open a console etc
[13:11] <jussi01> alt + f2
[13:11] <pjoter> great!
[13:11] <pjoter> k
[13:12] <pjoter> bash then?
[13:12] <pjoter> nothing appears
[13:12] <jussi01> also do alt +f2 then run katapault
[13:12] <jussi01> then you have the alt + space functionality
[13:12] <jussi01> !katapault
[13:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about katapault - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[13:12] <jussi01> hrm
[13:12] <jussi01> got to run
[13:12] <pjoter> great
[13:13] <jussi01> see you
[13:13] <pjoter> i just ran katapult
[13:13] <pjoter> ah ok cya
[13:13] <pjoter> thx
[13:14] <pjoter> hey how to open a console via alt+f2 ?
[13:14] <pjoter> i tried "bash" but didn't work
[13:15] <pucko-> pjoter, either xterm or konsole
[13:16] <pjoter> ah ok
[13:16] <pjoter> hey great in channel search functionality in here!
[13:16] <ctw> Hi! I'm getting an error message when I try to run apt-get update or apt-get (dist-)upgrade: It says Reading package lists ... Error! E: Problem parsing dependency Suggests, E: Error occured while processng debconf (NewVersion1), E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status, E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[13:16] <ctw>  Any idea what's wrong and how I can fix it?
[13:17] <pucko-> ctw, I would guess some other process has a lock on it...
[13:17] <jpatrick> ctw: apt-get install -f?
[13:18] <jpatrick> ctw: either that or...
[13:18] <jpatrick> !aptfix | ctw
[13:18] <ubotu> ctw: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[13:20] <ctw> jpatrick: cool, thanks ... will try this out right now
[13:22] <ctw> jpatrick: I get a dpkg: parse error, in file /var/lib/dpkg/status near line 472 package debconf: field name `' must be followed by a colon
[13:22] <ctw> jpatrick: do I have to edid this file?
[13:23] <jpatrick> ctw: hmm, never seen that error before
[13:23] <pjoter> hey is installing new software on kubuntu intended to be done via the adept manager only ??
[13:24] <jpatrick> pjoter: nop
[13:24] <jpatrick> pjoter: you have the freedom to choose how to do it
[13:24] <pjoter> jpatrick: i want to install my mom kubuntu, is there anything she possibly needs?
[13:24] <jpatrick> pjoter: most of the default apps ought to do it
[13:24] <pjoter> i mean in the packet manager
[13:25] <pjoter> ok so i won't have to bother about in-deep installing methods from scratch
[13:25] <pjoter> just download the appropriate packages
[13:25] <jpatrick> Don't think so.
[13:25] <pjoter> great
[13:25] <jpatrick> if you need anything, just ask here :)
[13:25] <pjoter> yea cool!
[13:26] <pjoter> what if the kubuntu install cd just hangs after the small X appeared ??
[13:26] <jpatrick> try booting into "Safe graphics mode"
[13:26] <pjoter> but after installation the real gfx mode will work?
[13:26] <jpatrick> yeah
[13:26] <pjoter> ok cool
[13:27] <pjoter> i will be back
[13:27] <jpatrick> the live cd is probably asking than more memory than availible
[13:27] <pjoter> ah ok
[13:27] <pjoter> how to show on which server i am right now from konversation ?
[13:28] <jpatrick> pjoter: try: /server
[13:28] <pjoter> ok
[13:29]  * jpatrick => lunch time
[13:29] <pjoter> if have the information now, it reconnected tho
[13:29] <pjoter> k cya
[13:31] <de4dsnake> hey i got a problem with the desktop applet for kde, "pager". It shows 8 desktops instead of 4 after reboot. I can fix  it by setting to 8 and then back to 4. but that lasts only until  next reboot.
[13:32] <de4dsnake> neone knows whats causing this?
[13:32] <pushax> de4dsnake: check you have the right permissions in your home dir
[13:33] <de4dsnake> pushax: ive got: drwxr-xr-x
[13:34] <de4dsnake> if thats what u meant
[13:35] <pushax> de4dsnake: #chown username:username ~/* -R
[13:36] <pushax> de4dsnake: replacing username with your user name... obviously...
[13:37] <de4dsnake> pushax: do i need to register a username?
[13:37] <pushax> de4dsnake: you may need sudo at the front of that
[13:37] <de4dsnake> oh
[13:37] <de4dsnake> nvm
[13:37] <pushax> de4dsnake: the username is your account name you login with to the session
[13:39] <de4dsnake> i get "invalid user"
[13:40] <de4dsnake> ah
[13:40] <de4dsnake> it works now
[13:40] <zgmf-x20a> hey anyone here use kontact?  trying to send an sms message thru it, but not sure how to configure it.  maybe anyone have a useful how to website?
[13:40] <pushax> de4dsnake: type ...   sudo chown username:username ~/* -R    REPLACING USERNAME with your login account name for both username fields in that string
[13:41] <pushax> de4dsnake: np
[13:41] <de4dsnake> pushax: ok done, what now?
[13:41] <pjoter> hey how reliable is wine today - i often heard of it, will it run nearly all win-apps?
[13:41] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: i have had 0 luck with it, good luck.  lol
[13:41] <pjoter> oh
[13:41] <pushax> de4dsnake:  that should make your account directory your own, in case it lost privilege
[13:41] <pjoter> ok
[13:42] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: i have tried, office 2k3, warcraft3 adobe 8, and a few smaller apps, NOTHING worked.  was a pain... lol
[13:42] <pjoter> oh darn it
[13:42] <genii> pjoter: List of what works/sort of works/won't work http://appdb.winehq.org/
[13:43] <pushax> de4dsnake: now set up the number of desktops you want.   use #kcontrol ...  then setup the amount for root level using #kdesu kcontrol   ...  the '#' means type at bash prompt
[13:43] <pjoter> ah ok thx
[13:44] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: well thats not entirely fair, they "work" i guess you could say.  office, tried follwoing what to do on the website just mentioned, didnt work for me.  same with arcraft3, ran for maybe 10seconds and crashed.  abobe.... hell.  o and rosetta stone, nope.  yah that websites "says" they work, keep that in mind
[13:44] <zgmf-x20a> i used it to try all the apps i worked with, got all hyped up thinking they would work, and not one did
[13:44] <pjoter> damn
[13:44] <pjoter> ok
[13:44] <pjoter> that's a pity
[13:44] <zgmf-x20a> i know
[13:45] <pjoter> is there an alternative?
[13:45] <zgmf-x20a> i was SOOOOOOOOOO happy when i finally thought a solution had came
[13:45] <pjoter> argh
[13:45] <de4dsnake> pushax: the problem is not that it doesnt save the setting properly. after reboot, the number of desktops in the settings is correct. but despite that it shows the incorrect number of icons
[13:45] <zgmf-x20a> but much to my dismay.... nothing worked
[13:45] <jpatrick> !wine > pjoter
[13:45] <pjoter> what's the difficulty in building wine?
[13:45] <mika__> hi there
[13:45] <jpatrick> !appdb > pjoter
[13:45] <zgmf-x20a> its easy man
[13:45] <jpatrick> !hi | mika__
[13:45] <ubotu> mika__: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[13:45] <zgmf-x20a> are you on kubuntu or ubuntu
[13:45] <pjoter> kubuntu
[13:45] <de4dsnake> pushax: btw im extecting 4 desktop icons for the 4 viewports of compiz
[13:46] <mika__> I cant get mic to work
[13:46] <mika__>  ... skype
[13:46] <zgmf-x20a> damn i havent been on kubuntu for maybe 5 months, but it should be available via adept
[13:46] <mika__> it was working yesterday
[13:46] <pjoter> i just tried the live cd heh
[13:46] <pushax> de4dsnake: have you tried to st it at 1 to see if the lowest value clears the rpoblems?  then try the highest value to see if you can force it to trip to base value
[13:46] <jpatrick> pjoter: see the private messages from ubotu
[13:46] <zgmf-x20a> make sure the repos are checked off though
[13:46] <pjoter> hey thx jpatrick yea
[13:47] <pushax> de4dsnake: ...have you tried to set... I meant
[13:47] <mika__> jpatrick .. hi, any ideas for making mic work again
[13:47] <pjoter> but they fib a little on appdb as zgmf-x20a told me
[13:47] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: you may have better luck, i think alot of the game issues where attributed to hardware
[13:47] <de4dsnake> pushax: 1 desktop in setting should make it to 4 icons. 2 desktop 8 icons as each desktop has got 4 viewports (4 sides of compiz cube)
[13:47] <jpatrick> mika__: check the settings in kmix
[13:48] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: however software should have worked, but ...... doesnt.... lol.  seems like one of those hit or miss linux type mysteries.... hahaha
[13:48] <pjoter> darn it to hell
[13:48] <zgmf-x20a> hahahahahaha
[13:48] <pjoter> lol
[13:49] <de4dsnake> pushax: so the setting should b at 1 desktop, but instead after reboot i get 8. Probably a bug or malconfiguration. When i set it to to and then back to one, it fixes itself.
[13:49] <mika__> jpatrick .. have done that .. looks ok to me .. although when comparing to kmix snapshot on skype page there is no button (i guess mute) on mic slider
[13:49] <pjoter> you mean it's technically not such a big thing building such an app-layer?
[13:49] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: well dont get your hopes up yet man, havent tried it in over a month due to my near brain hemoraging the first time trying it.... lol.  so maybe the newer updates may solve problems for apps your working with
[13:49] <pjoter> no i won't
[13:49] <pjoter> i like kubuntu already
[13:49] <jpatrick> mika__: make sure it's set to record
[13:49] <mika__> jpatrick ... what indicates that ?
[13:50] <jpatrick> mika__: the red button in "Input" in kmix
[13:50] <pushax> de4dsnake: I don't have compiz installed so I can't search for the config file.  mayeb you can search for contents that will hold the real value
[13:50] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: naw its simple as anything to install.  personally i gave up after trying all the things on appdb said to do, and many many reinstalls and reconfigures and i got squat, so i rely on the classic dual boot method
[13:50] <zgmf-x20a> unfortunately....
[13:51] <pjoter> mh ok
[13:51] <mika__> jpatrick ... I have 3 capture bars under input tab
[13:51] <zgmf-x20a> kinda hate how i have to rely on windoze for my gaming.... and things to just work when i need them too, but hey, cant change that
[13:51] <pjoter> wine emulates the whole windows API i guess? is this even possible ?
[13:51] <pushax> de4dsnake: is the most you can have 8? Maybe like you say, a bug is causing a difference of 1
[13:51] <pjoter> or always doomed to be an bricolage thing
[13:52] <de4dsnake> pushax: well if i set it to 3 ill have 8 instead of 12
[13:52] <pushax> hehhe
[13:52] <pushax> de4dsnake: wish ya luck.  try googling the prob?
[13:53] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: lol, well it is still in developement, it has ALOT of promise, and does emulate how windows works pretty well, but i dunno, personally my experience was bad, but some others it works, thus was my conclusion of hardware based discrepencies
[13:53] <de4dsnake> but as is said, if i go from 2 or 3 or more back to one it gets fixed
[13:53] <pjoter> ok i will check it out
[13:53] <pjoter> thx
[13:53] <pjoter> are there anti virus scanners for linux too?
[13:53] <pushax> de4dsnake: restart now that you pass that command before.  mayeb you did have a ownership issue on your files
[13:54] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: no problem man.  i say give it a run just so you can experience it see if it works, and if so, gold, if not, wait it out for the development to get on the issues
[13:54] <pjoter> yea
[13:54] <de4dsnake> pushax:  ok ill try, brb
[13:54] <pushax> de4dsnake: you could also try to purge the package in question and reinstall it, therefore new start values.
[13:54] <zgmf-x20a> anyways, so anyone a kontact user here?
[13:55] <LadyNikon> i used to be zgmf-x20a
[13:55] <LadyNikon> then i switched to using google calendar
[13:55] <pushax> de4dsnake: in Adept you can purge the installs.
[13:55] <LadyNikon> zgmf-x20a: whats the issue?
[13:55] <zgmf-x20a> LadyNikon: cool, do you remeber how to get sms messaging up and running on it?
[13:55] <LadyNikon> ah.. never used that feature sorry.
[13:55] <zgmf-x20a> i keep getting thise error:  There is no application set which could be executed. Please go to the settings dialog and configure one.
[13:55] <zgmf-x20a> awwwwwwww
[13:56] <zgmf-x20a> ok ok, thanks though.  anyone else?
[13:56] <zgmf-x20a> i have been surfing the settings, but cant find what im supposed to configure!
[13:57] <jpatrick> !virus | pushax
[13:57] <ubotu> pushax: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[13:57] <jpatrick> pjoter: ^^ sorry
[13:57] <pjoter> hehe
[13:57] <pjoter> hey basically linux is the concrete, nail and screw metal alloy and raw glass etc from which the doors and windows and walls are build (KDE/GNOME) and the application programmer uses those already assembled things to build houses and huts right??
[13:57] <Death_Syn> Hi!
[13:58] <genii> I think the !virus factoid needs updating, there are over 800 viruses that are for linux
[13:58] <Death_Syn> Since I installed 4.0.2, my 3.5.9 desktops seem to have the / directory in them, I see all the directories under / on the desktop.  Googling hasn't been successful in finding a fix for this so far.  Anyone know how I can fix?
[13:58] <Death_Syn> running gutsy
[13:58] <zgmf-x20a> pjoter: linux is the kernal, GNU is everything that makes it work
[13:58] <zgmf-x20a> i think
[13:58] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[13:58] <pjoter> but that's too technical to imagine for me
[13:59] <de4dsnake> pushax: it didnt fix it
[13:59] <mika__> jpatrick .. remember were there some trick you renamed some alsa conf file and restarted alsa
[13:59] <jpatrick> !sound
[13:59] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[13:59] <de4dsnake> pushax: i try asking in compiz channel
[14:00] <pjoter> !virus | pjoter
[14:00] <pushax> de4dsnake: ok.  maybe you can purge the package in question.  other words use adept to 'purge' then delete the directory withthe settings in your home dir.  then reinstall.  therefore getting a clean install of that item
[14:00] <Signil> has any1 tried hotwire?
[14:00] <pushax> de4dsnake:  do that as last resort though.  Maybe there is a simple answer
[14:01] <mika__> my sound is working .. only microphone doesnt
[14:01] <pjoter> hey what is ubotu programmed in?
[14:01] <pushax> new skype version out today!
[14:02] <pushax> pjoter: assemly and 'c'
[14:02] <pjoter> assembly ?? ^^
[14:02] <pushax> pjoter: assembly and 'c'
[14:02] <pjoter> really
[14:02] <pjoter> why
[14:02] <pjoter> kinda hardcore
[14:02] <pjoter> !enter | pjoter
[14:03] <pushax> pjoter: that's the kernel, but it seems python, java, is popular.
[14:03] <Signil> has any1 tried hotwire?
[14:03] <pjoter> hey hold on i meant the bot! not ubuntu!
[14:03] <jpatrick> !msgthebot | pjoter
[14:03] <ubotu> pjoter: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotwo Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[14:03] <pjoter> the uboto bot
[14:03] <pjoter> hehe
[14:04] <pushax> pjoter: the kernel up until recently was pure assembly, but they change it to C and small amount of asm.
[14:04] <jose> anyone speak spanish?
[14:04] <pjoter> mh kinda hardcore! but you're talking bout the linux kernel right? not the bot's kernel or something. i meant the ubotu-bot
[14:05] <pjoter> claro que si
[14:05] <mika__> ok got it working ... thanks for your help :)
[14:05] <pjoter> jose que passa
[14:05] <jpatrick> !es | jose
[14:05] <ubotu> jose: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:06] <jose> que bueno man,, soy un novato en kubuntu y me lo he intalado para probarlo,
[14:06] <pushax> pjoter: yeah my mistake.
[14:06] <jose> y no puedo ver paginas web
[14:06] <pjoter> np!
[14:06] <jose> mel konkeror no me funciona
[14:06] <pjoter> tienes que configurar tu network machina jose pero no se como se fa
[14:06] <jpatrick> jose: /join #kubuntu-es