[12:17] <Urilock> lewis@Lewis-Desktop:~$ apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:17] <Urilock> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[12:18] <stdin> sudo...
[12:19] <Urilock> >.<
[12:19] <Urilock> this is a great fun and fast way to use 500mb lol
[12:20] <Fooller> what do I need to install to watch quicktime videos in firefox :|
[12:21] <Tomi-idle> Fooller: mozilla-mplayer
[12:23] <RobNyc> anyone here running kde 3.5.7
[12:25] <dthacker-lt> no
[12:26] <manchicken> RobNyc: I am.
[12:27] <manchicken> Hey, folks who are considering buying new computers, consider bringing a copy of the Kubuntu Live CD to your computer distributor (e.g. Circuit City) and test it out before you buy, if you plan on buying from a retail distributor.
[12:27] <hasan> hi guys
[12:27] <hasan> i ve got a question
[12:27] <RobNyc> manchicken: how did you get it
[12:27] <RobNyc> the instructions are so wrong
[12:27] <manchicken> I just called Circuit City, and the guy told me that he was cool with me bringing the Feisty Live CD in.
[12:27] <hasan> i use konqueror and by pressing f8 konsole behind konqueror
[12:27] <manchicken> RobNyc: Which instructions are you following?
[12:28] <hasan> lets say taht i ve changed to /home/hasan directory in konsole
[12:28] <RobNyc> manchicken: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[12:28] <hasan> in konqueror view im in another directory
[12:28] <hasan> how can i make those changes in accordance ?
[12:28] <manchicken> RobNyc: What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[12:28] <RobNyc> manchicken: latest :)
[12:29] <manchicken> RobNyc: Define latest?  Can you give me the DISTRIB_RELEASE value from the /etc/lsb-release file?
[12:29] <dvheumen> I've been searching on google and ubuntu forums but could find the answer (or am searching the wrong way) so I'm asking here: Is it possible to create a shortcut to an application on another linux PC so it starts with X11 Forwarding support?
[12:29] <RobNyc> manchicken: Feisty
[12:29] <manchicken> RobNyc: Those instructions worked for me on Feisty.
[12:29] <RobNyc> 7.04
[12:29] <manchicken> Which part are you having trouble with?
[12:30] <Soulwarp> wat are the plans for the next release of ubuntu/kubuntu
[12:30] <RobNyc> it says How To Use and if i try to do it via gui there is not authentication tab to start of
[12:30] <manchicken> RobNyc: Try doing it without the GUI.
[12:30] <RobNyc> i think i managed now
[12:30] <RobNyc> manchicken: just did
[12:30] <manchicken> It's pretty easy.
[12:30] <RobNyc> much easier
[12:31] <manchicken> Yeah, adept in Feisty is kinda... not as good as it could be.
[12:31] <manchicken> Okay, I'm off to buy computers.
[12:36] <Soulwarp> im having a problem opening adept package manager...
[12:36] <Soulwarp> it's not opening
[12:37] <Soulwarp> ah never mind
[12:40] <Fooller> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR Will this guide work in Kubuntu too?
[12:41] <dvheumen> How can I (in KDE) create a shortcut to an application on a remote X server?
[12:43] <erikeee> I just installed Tribe 4 and I am trying to install ATI drivers.. however, I am presented with a list of x_dir:s since it can't detect my configuration.. workarounds?!
[12:46] <tobias> gn8 guys
[12:46] <tobias> !n8
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about n8 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <tobias> ;)
[12:56] <erikeee> I just installed Tribe 4 and I am trying to install ATI drivers.. however, I am presented with a list of x_dir:s since it can't detect my configuration.. workarounds?!
[12:58] <fkm> Hi there. Does someone know what executable and/or what commandline arguments the "Home Folder" from the "Menu of important system places" has? I now got the exec kfmclient and the arguments "openProfile filemanagement" but it doesn't open a new tab in the already opened Konqueror :(
[01:00] <fkm> I got the exec and arguments from the "Home" Button from the "Quick Launcher" applet. And I guess it's not a problem of the Konqueror config as the tab thing works with the "Home Folder" button from the "Menu of important ..."
[01:05] <elite101> wow
[01:05] <elite101> 7.04 is soooo better than 6.06
[01:05] <adenicio> !pty
[01:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:05] <elite101> i was missing out large
[01:06] <elite101> the mapping and windows are soo clean and it has a better feel
[01:06] <Fooller> How do I make ISO image out of a file in my root dir?
[01:12] <elite101> man i feel like i need alot of ram for running Kubuntu 7.04? i have only 292mb is that good?
[01:12] <Tomi-idle> you can run kde fine with 300mb :)
[01:12] <elite101> thats cool
[01:13] <Tomi-idle> but if you're using programs like firefox it can suck a lot of ram
[01:13] <elite101> well it seems wayy..better feisty feet
[01:13] <Tomi-idle> minimize the programs you're running at same time to avoid slowing down
[01:13] <elite101> yeah
[01:13] <elite101> well im going to un-install bluetooth/printing services and unnessacry things i dont use
[01:14] <elite101> i love 7.04 it's way better than looking @ 6.06.1
[01:14] <Tomi-idle> have feisty on 224mb laptop (some shared) and i can run firefox + flash no probs
[01:14] <elite101> cool*
[01:14] <fkm> If it's not a laptop you can normally also uninstall all the PPP tools
[01:14] <elite101> well im going to get a 1gig stick but there is only one prob.
[01:14] <elite101> yeah true*
[01:14] <elite101> i dont use ppoe*
[01:14] <Tomi-idle> i dont like the looks so much, using the svn oxygen icons + qtcurve + some other minor tweaks
[01:15] <elite101> for DSl but 1gb stick in SD ram is like 256DDR ram
[01:15] <Tomi-idle> also if you dont use bluetooth remove the daemon
[01:15] <elite101> SD is alot slower its only like 250Mbps
[01:15] <elite101> whats that?
[01:15] <elite101> daemon*
[01:15] <Tomi-idle> it's the backend of bluetooth connectivity.
[01:15] <elite101> ic
[01:15] <Tomi-idle> it takes a few megs ;)
[01:15] <elite101> well i usually uninstall things in add/remove manager
[01:16] <elite101> yeah
[01:16] <elite101> man i dont ever wanna go back to 6.06
[01:16] <Tomi-idle> wait till gutsy comes out and get kde4 working on it.. *drool*
[01:16] <elite101> lol
[01:17] <fkm> I don't know what I shall think about Dolphin
[01:17] <elite101> i know it was only 3.5.2 or something that 6.06.1 had (thank god i never used 5.10)
[01:17] <fkm> I really came to like that Konqueror handles everything
[01:17] <elite101> and is faster*
[01:18] <elite101> can i un-instal Knetwork manager?
[01:18] <fkm> you could, but if you have a wireless card I don't recommend it
[01:18] <Tomi-idle> fkm: i have the same thing, got used to konqueror and it works great for me. dolphin seems worse atm
[01:18] <elite101> nvm then
[01:18] <elite101> lol i have ethernet
[01:18] <elite101> but just incase
[01:19] <Tomi-idle> i uninstalled knetwork manager.. had no probs without it
[01:19] <elite101> is opreha any good webbroswer? isnt it really lightweight?
[01:19] <thedevilsjester> If I add -static to the compile line, it will statically link all deps, but what if I just want to statically link 1 dep?
[01:19] <Tomi-idle> but if you encounter probs just install it again :D
[01:19] <fkm> elite101: If you have an ethernet connection with a DHCP server providing your IP you normally don't need the KNetworkManager frontent (IMO)
[01:19] <Tomi-idle> opera is closed source software, i wouldn't recommend using it
[01:19] <elite101> okay lol
[01:19] <Tomi-idle> but some say it's good, even better than firefox for some
[01:19] <elite101> well i think thats what the PSP webbrowser use's and same goes for the WII/PS3?
[01:20] <fkm> Tomi-idle: I just hope we can switch back to Konqueror as the default file manager in Gutsy
[01:20] <Tomi-idle> fkm: im pretty sure we can, and it should be rather easy. :)
[01:20] <fkm> I hope so :)
[01:20] <elite101> Gutsy? is it like Dapper/feisty feet?
[01:20] <thedevilsjester> Any C/C++ devs know about static linking an individual dep, not all deps ?
[01:20] <Tomi-idle> gutsy is the next release. im running the alpha version right now
[01:21] <elite101> so KDE is the desktop enviorment and so is Gnome and then what does gutsy/dapper/feisty mean?
[01:21] <elite101> what are they?
[01:21] <thedevilsjester> versions
[01:21] <elite101> for what thou?
[01:21] <elite101> kernel?
[01:21] <thedevilsjester> fot the OS
[01:21] <elite101> ic
[01:21] <thedevilsjester> for*
[01:21] <Tomi-idle> they include different kernels, different programs(or versions of them) etc
[01:21] <elite101> okay
[01:21] <thedevilsjester> just like 9x XP Vista etc
[01:22] <thedevilsjester> titles for each new version
[01:22] <elite101> well i must say from using Dapper Feisty Feet is way... ebtter
[01:22] <elite101> okay
[01:22] <Tomi-idle> but you can upgrade to the next version from the last pretty easily
[01:22] <elite101> yeah
[01:22] <thedevilsjester> So no devs here then?
[01:22] <elite101> im on 7.04
[01:22] <Tomi-idle> gutsy (hopefully) will be even better than feisty ;)
[01:22] <elite101> i can just upgrade to 7.10 rite now
[01:22] <elite101> :P
[01:22] <fkm> I hope so. Crashed my whole system when I tried to upgrade from Edgy to Feisty
[01:23] <Tomi-idle> 7.10 is gutsy
[01:23] <elite101> ohhh
[01:23] <Tomi-idle> but it's not _stable_ yet and might encounter some problems, even data loss
[01:23] <elite101> wholey? there is so many is there even Kubuntu going back to99? like 99.06.1?
[01:24] <Tomi-idle> 99?
[01:24] <elite101> lol
[01:24] <elite101> how many is there?
[01:24] <elite101> from when this distro?
[01:24] <elite101> only back to 05'
[01:24] <Tomi-idle> i think ubuntu starter from 05.. so i think 5.x was the first
[01:24] <elite101> yeah
[01:24] <Tomi-idle> but kubuntu was like 2006?
[01:24] <Biovore> first big release anyway..
[01:24] <elite101> ohh
[01:24] <Tomi-idle> not sure ;)
[01:24] <elite101> yeah
[01:25] <elite101> yeah thats what i meant ubuntu 5.10
[01:25] <elite101> but who use's edubuntu?
[01:25] <elite101> i find itkinda pointless
[01:25] <Tomi-idle> lol i just got why they name the versions 6.04 6.10 etc.. lol
[01:25] <Tomi-idle> im pretty slow..
[01:25] <elite101> same*
[01:26] <Tomi-idle> edubuntu is made towards educational purposes
[01:26] <Tomi-idle> like schools etc.
[01:26] <elite101> is there anyway possiable to run a MAC os on a PC? i heard of ppl getting it for there xbox?
[01:26] <elite101> yeah
[01:27] <elite101> i wish i can get a Kubuntu to run MAC programs like video editing*
[01:27] <Tomi-idle> elite101: i think it's pretty illegal to run osx on pc
[01:27] <elite101> yeah
[01:27] <elite101> but is there away?
[01:27] <Tomi-idle> but they do have how to's on how ot run beta version of leopard on pc :p
[01:27] <Wckdkl0wn> what repositories do i have to add to install the latest wine?
[01:27] <elite101> lol
[01:27] <Tomi-idle> yeah you could run the latest os's on pcs..
[01:28] <elite101> well my computer is doing a serious upgrade now
[01:28] <Tomi-idle> just was an article on digg.com
[01:28] <elite101> mhmm
[01:28] <elite101> i should check it out*
[01:28] <elite101> lol thank god i had a blank CD so i could burn 7.04
[01:28] <Tomi-idle> i suppose if you bought the OS you could do anything you want with it. im not a lawyer but that sounds reasonable to me ;)
[01:28] <elite101> yeah
[01:28] <elite101> but then again
[01:29] <BluesKaj> Wckdkl0wn, windows repos :)
[01:29] <elite101> u could reverse engineer it and improve ur OS and then make ppl pay
[01:29] <Tomi-idle> dunno how seriously eula must be taken
[01:29] <elite101> u can do the same with linux but
[01:29] <Tomi-idle> you could run into patent problems on reverse engineering
[01:29] <elite101> see i wish it was like that U bought it the "consumer" u should beable to use it abuse lose and choose it
[01:29] <elite101> yeah*
[01:30] <elite101> well im going to be working in late december* and im going to save for either a Dell XPS or a Suzuki GSX-r
[01:30] <elite101> im thinking GSXR but then again its going to take long*
[01:30] <Tomi-idle> suzuki ftw :D
[01:31] <elite101> lol
[01:31] <fkm> Btw. does anybody here has Beryl working on his Kubuntu?
[01:31] <elite101> i dont wanna Hayabusa there to big
[01:31] <elite101> im only turning 15 and when i hit 16 im going for my M1-M2
[01:31] <Tomi-idle> elite101: i think we drifted a bit too much offtopic ;)
[01:31] <elite101> yeah
[01:31] <runlevelten> !borkomatix
[01:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about borkomatix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:32] <runlevelten> oh yeah
[01:32] <runlevelten> !automatix
[01:32] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a block of code which attempts to install some software.  When it fails and breaks systems, we don't provide support for it.  A creditable analysis from a debian/ubuntu developer is here - http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html (Additional information: /msg ubotu worksforme)
[01:32] <Tomi-idle> i had beryl working fine on feisty . also compiz-f worked fine on feisty but not on gutsy
[01:33] <elite101> there is a program for windows its called ntune it overclocks and stuff will it work using wine?
[01:33] <elite101> or is there a linux supported version?
[01:33] <fkm> Tomi-idle: Do you have an ATI card?
[01:33] <Biovore> there is a nvidia tunning tool for linux.. wine can't access hardware directly..
[01:33] <Tomi-idle> if it's nvidia. you could try nvclock & nvclock-qt
[01:33] <elite101> ahh
[01:34] <Tomi-idle> fkm: nvidia sry
[01:34] <fkm> kk :)
[01:34] <Biovore> but you need to be care full with nvlock.. you can permintely kill your card with the wrong settings..
[01:34] <fkm> I guess I know what's next on my shopping list ;)
[01:34] <Tomi-idle> anything that says "overclocking" can ruin your hardware ;)
[01:34] <elite101> well
[01:35] <elite101> overcloking is an ART not a skill* (like some say)
[01:35] <elite101> i have my system overclocked"
[01:35] <elite101> i just wanna get my video card a little higher
[01:35] <Biovore> its an art if you don't know what your doing.. its a skill of you do..
[01:35] <elite101> lol
[01:35] <Tomi-idle> lol@biovore
[01:36] <elite101> with 7.04 is flash enabled? or installed?
[01:36] <Biovore> you can get flash on it..
[01:36] <Tomi-idle> elite101: i dont think it's enabled by default
[01:36] <Biovore> I have 7.04 running on my gamming box..
[01:36] <elite101> ahh
[01:36] <fkm> flashplugin-nonfree
[01:36] <Wckdkl0wn> anyone else have problems with k3b with making iso? i get it to get to 98% then it errors out on any cd i do
[01:36] <isthisnickvalid_> Hi!
[01:36] <elite101> well i usually download firefox and it does it for me :)
[01:37] <fkm> I don't know, but I think there's even a free version.
[01:37] <isthisnickvalid_> I have a Zydas usb WLAN dongle.... from Zaapa.
[01:37] <elite101> Zydas?
[01:37] <elite101> wow
[01:37] <Tomi-idle> there's an open source version of flash called gnash
[01:37] <Tomi-idle> GNU flash ;)
[01:37] <elite101> never heard of them? is the doogle alot of money?
[01:38] <Tomi-idle> but it doesn't work on all flash programs
[01:38] <isthisnickvalid_> It seems it has been correctly detected by kubuntu 7.04, but I want to put it in Acces Point mode, to use it with my Nintendo Wii... Where could I learn to do that?
[01:38] <elite101> i am looking for a Doggle that is supported with Kubuntu rite off the bat so its like a "plug and play"
[01:38] <elite101> a wiki or Youtube?
[01:38] <adam> im having trouble with beryl is there something different than ubuntu that i should know or im doing wrong?
[01:38] <elite101> ppl post tutorials on the web or on google.com
[01:38] <Biovore> rgr
[01:39] <Biovore> when in doubt.. ask google.. it knows stuff..
[01:39] <elite101> lol
[01:39] <elite101> its brain is powerd by solaris*
[01:39] <elite101> but anyone have a Doggle that works with kubuntu rite off the bat like its just "PnP"?
[01:40] <isthisnickvalid_> My usb wlan dongle seems to be like "plug and play" but I don't know how to acces to the acces point mode.
[01:40] <elite101> im looking to buy one so i dont have to use Ndiswrapper or anything
[01:40] <isthisnickvalid_> And I know that the driver supports that mode, and also monitor mode.
[01:40] <elite101> hmh^
[01:40] <fkm> Wckdkl0wn: Works fine here
[01:40] <jrick> Does anyone have any knowledge on setting up a SMTP server?  I want to set up one (sendmail?) on my box here because my email provider's (runbox) smtp server seems to be always down.
[01:41] <elite101> isthisnickvalid, what kinda of doggle?
[01:41] <isthisnickvalid_> 54mbps WIFI
[01:41] <elite101> no brand*
[01:41] <isthisnickvalid_> Zaapa, is the brand.
[01:41] <elite101> k
[01:41] <isthisnickvalid_> The chipset is from Zydas
[01:43] <elite101> http://zydas.rapla.net/
[01:43] <isthisnickvalid_> So can I share my internet connection or not?
[01:43] <elite101> not sure lol
[01:44] <elite101> a network bridge?
[01:44] <mohammad> would someone please let me know where I can find a gnome applet developing howto?
[01:44] <elite101> ohh ic make an access point with the USB device and get ur "game sys" to connect to it?
[01:44] <elite101> or lappy?
[01:44] <isthisnickvalid_> yes
[01:45] <isthisnickvalid_> that's what I'd like to do.
[01:45] <fkm> mohammad: I guess this is the wrong channel for that ;)
[01:45] <isthisnickvalid_> what's the correct channel?
[01:45] <elite101> for what?
[01:45] <elite101> broadcasting?
[01:45] <isthisnickvalid_> My question is related to the drivers included in kubuntu... and kubuntu's tool.
[01:45] <elite101> i use 11/6 wich ever
[01:45] <isthisnickvalid_> tools
[01:45] <elite101> ohh well
[01:45] <mohammad> fkm: so, do you have any idea where I should ask it?
[01:46] <elite101> im not sure
[01:46] <fkm> Well I guess if he searches for a GNOME devel tool he's better of asking the guys in #ubuntu :)
[01:46] <elite101> so u need a Program to make the USB dev do both monitor and do things Wlan program in Kubuntu cant do
[01:46] <elite101> but im not sure of any programs
[01:46] <jrick> so no one knows how to set up smtp?
[01:46] <fkm> Eventhough it's possible with Kubuntu I think most people here don't use GNOME
[01:47] <fkm> I don't :|
[01:47] <elite101> me either*
[01:47] <mohammad> thank you anyway
[01:47] <jrick> hmmm, i'll ask on #ubuntu then
[01:47] <isthisnickvalid_> elite101, do you know any program of that sort?
[01:48] <elite101> no
[01:48] <elite101> sorry*
[01:48] <Biovore> jrick: I think ubuntu uses postfix by default.. just google on postfix setup..
[01:48] <elite101> in windows u can do it but not sure about kubuntu
[01:48] <isthisnickvalid_> and what's the name for that? Broadcasting? Acces point mode?
[01:48] <elite101> is there a wiki for usb doggles supported or a website?
[01:48] <elite101> um no sure
[01:48] <elite101> its in windows*
[01:49] <elite101> its not a program but windows Xp does it
[01:49] <holymoly> hahaha
[01:49] <holymoly> oh wow
[01:49] <elite101> but
[01:49] <elite101> u should ask someone else
[01:49] <holymoly> drag and drop works between nautilus and konqueror
[01:49] <holymoly> oh i love linux
[01:49] <Biovore> you can share you internet connection.. but it requires some lower level configuration.. no gui atm..
[01:49] <holymoly> i didn't know that was a solved problem
[01:49] <holymoly> nautilus was logged into an ftp site, konq into an ssh account
[01:49] <holymoly> yow
[01:51] <jrick> Biovore: postfix isn't installed, are you sure it's the default?
[01:52] <elite101> will Kubuntu 7.04 feistyFeet still use .deb? for programs?
[01:52] <elite101> i am going to get limewire*
[01:54] <isthisnickvalid_> Can I play good games with a card that obtains 1013 fps with glxgears?
[01:55] <elite101> wow 1013?
[01:55] <elite101> 10-13?
[01:55] <haffi> Can anyone recommend a webcam GUI for KDE?
[01:56] <isthisnickvalid_> 1082.995 FPS
[01:56] <elite101> wow?
[01:56] <elite101> i have only 1.6 in xracer
[01:56] <elite101> :P
[01:56] <isthisnickvalid_> do you have 3d accel activated?
[01:57] <Tomi-idle> i have 10k fps in glxgears and wow is still a bit slow
[01:57] <elite101> when i shut everything down i get like 4.5
[01:57] <elite101> no?
[01:57] <fkm> About sharing the internet connection. Firestarter had some function called like that (or similarly). Maybe that works (but no idea, honestly)
[01:57] <elite101> 3d accel?
[01:57] <elite101> !3d
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <elite101> !3D
[01:57] <Tomi-idle> elite101: binary drivers for your gfx card
[01:57] <elite101> ohh wel noo
[01:57] <isthisnickvalid_> I have an ati 9200 SE with free drivers...
[01:57] <elite101> its too old
[01:57] <isthisnickvalid_> the closed source drivers where stopped...
[01:57] <isthisnickvalid_> were*
[01:58] <elite101> but i usually play games that are online
[01:58] <fkm> !fglrx
[01:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:58] <isthisnickvalid_> firestarter... thanks fkm, I'll give it a try
[01:58] <fkm> It's about the ... maybe 3rd page of the wizard that pops up when you launch it for the first tim
[01:58] <fkm> e
[01:59] <jrick> I think I found what I needed: http://my.opera.com/Contrid/blog/show.dml/478684
[02:01] <casperzshado> everytime i turn on beryl my screen turns white, is there something im missing?
[02:01] <evaldo> como fao para ajuda em portugus?
[02:02] <[1] Myelin> hello
[02:02] <elite101> hello
[02:02] <casperzshado> is there anybody out there
[02:02] <elite101> yeah
[02:03] <casperzshado> i need a hand
[02:03] <elite101> sorry lol i know nothing about beryl
[02:03] <[1] Myelin> Please can you tell me the command to know what apt-get will download and install.
[02:03] <NickPresta> [1] Myelin, `sudo apt-get -s install PACKAGE`
[02:03] <evaldo> help for speecher of portuguese
[02:03] <yurimxpxman> is there any way to forward audio over ssh?
[02:03] <jrick> hmm, postfix config is asking me some basic questions, and i don't know how to answer them.
[02:04] <Biovore> yurimxpxman: the sound servers in kde (arts) can do network sounds.. I have never messed with it..
[02:04] <jrick> Internet Site, Internet Site using smarthost, Satellite system, and Local delivery only.
[02:04] <elite101> mhm i wonder if ppl know my nick by now i have been on hear since like 2-3 months?
[02:04] <level1> flash player in konqueror (youtube) was working just yesterday, but now youtube gives me the "you don't have flash" message... according to the settings I have libflash loaded into konqueror
[02:05] <jrick> which should I choose?
[02:05] <Biovore> jrick: the going to be a real internet mail server that accept mail from other mail servers?
[02:05] <jrick> Biovore: i just want to send all my mail through this computer, not some other website or server.
[02:06] <Biovore> jrick: local only then..
[02:06] <BluesKaj> web mail can be a saviour sometimes
[02:06] <jrick> Biovore: k, thanks
[02:06] <Ronald->  Hello, I'm tring to install ubuntu, but once the installation finishes I reboot my pc and i get an error msg "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"" and when I click on Crt-alt-F1 I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33868/     I checked for error on the installation CD, its ok  I used the all_generic_ide command, whitout success
[02:07] <casperzshado> im having trouble with beryl can anyone gimme a hand?
[02:07] <elite101> #ubuntu <- ?
[02:07] <isthisnickvalid_> casperzshado, tell us your problem
[02:08] <jrick> Biovore: what do I do about the 'mail name'?
[02:08] <level1> !flash
[02:08] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[02:08] <jrick> Biovore: it says it's the stuff after the @
[02:08] <casperzshado> everytime i start beryl my screen goes white, i just changed from ubuntu and it worked fine there
[02:08] <Biovore> you got something setup wrong probably..
[02:09] <Biovore> its the same xserver and interface basicly.
[02:09] <elite101> does kubuntu have anything like mal-ware/spy-ware/at all?
[02:09] <jrick> Biovore: since I use runbox, if I want to make it look like I used their runbox server, would I use 'runbox.com'?
[02:09] <elite101> or a virus?
[02:10] <Biovore> well there isn't anything in th wild
[02:10] <elite101> i thought i read or heard about someone trying to rite a virus for linux? o_0
[02:10] <isthisnickvalid_> It can exist, but there is a very very little probablity for you to be infected by anything.
[02:10] <elite101> yeah
[02:10] <Biovore> in theroy you could..
[02:10] <elite101> but
[02:10] <elite101> who would?
[02:10] <Biovore> but it would probably only run as a user..
[02:10] <elite101> why is windows so vulnerable to attacks?
[02:10] <elite101> yeah*
[02:10] <isthisnickvalid_> but nobody is interested in programming viruses for a plataform with no-so-many users as windows
[02:10] <isthisnickvalid_> lol
[02:10] <elite101> with out root privilages
[02:11] <elite101> true*
[02:11] <elite101> ic
[02:11] <Biovore> everyone uses windows as administrator
[02:11] <elite101> yeah
[02:11] <Biovore> thus everyone gets owned..
[02:11] <elite101> so then it spreads like wildfire
[02:11] <casperzshado> isthisnickvalid_, do you know what could be the cause of my screen going white after starting beryl?
[02:11] <isthisnickvalid_> casperzshado what card do you have?
[02:12] <Ronald-> I'm trying to install ubuntu,    do you think that if I try to install Kubuntu it will work?
[02:12] <Biovore> Ronald-: did ubuntu install?
[02:13] <elite101> lol funny thing i had a broken system" and i installed Kubuntu on a second HDD and the first one started to work?
[02:13] <Ronald-> biovore> nope
[02:13] <elite101> it was weird it fixed it
[02:14] <Biovore> Ronald-: then I doubt kubuntu will install eather.. try the alternate installer.. that might work..
[02:14] <Ronald-> biovore> I get an error each time i reboot the sysmem after installing it
[02:14] <Biovore> oh.. what error?
[02:14] <Biovore> grub 18?
[02:14] <Ronald-> biovore> "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[02:14] <Ronald-> biovore> and when I click on Crt-alt-F1 I get this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33868/
[02:15] <Biovore> hmm.. looks like udev is letting you down.. :-/
[02:15] <Ronald-> biovore> however when I run ubuntu from the CD it  works fine
[02:16] <isthisnickvalid_> casperzshado, what's the brand of your video card'
[02:16] <isthisnickvalid_> ?
[02:16] <Ronald-> biovore> what can I do to fix that?
[02:16] <casperzshado> isthisnickvalid_, dual nvidia geforce 7600 gs
[02:16] <elite101> sli problems?
[02:16] <jrick> ok, I think I have postfix working now, but how do I configure it into Mailody?
[02:17] <Biovore> Ronald-: yeah..  might need to change your your grub boot options..  need to pass root=<root_device> and not by uid..  It looks like when the kernel is comming up it can't seem to find the disk with the lable posted..
[02:17] <casperzshado> isthisnickvalid_, it worked fine on ubuntu about 2 hours ago
[02:17] <isthisnickvalid_> and now it goes white?
[02:18] <hsatera> is there any browser that runs in python?
[02:18] <casperzshado> yeah, only in kubuntu
[02:18] <isthisnickvalid_> You tried beryl with ubuntu and worked. Now tried with kubuntu and didn't work. Is that the problem?
[02:18] <Biovore> hsatera: no but python can call and interface with konqueror using kde interface modules
[02:18] <Ronald-> biovore>how can I change the  grub boot options? sorry I'm newbie
[02:18] <isthisnickvalid_> What window manager are you using? I guess beryl switches to "beryl" window manager automaticlly
[02:19] <casperzshado> isthisnickvalid_, i tried kubuntu last week and had the same problem, burned another boot disk, went back to ubuntu and  just tried again
[02:19] <elite101> can i update KDE 3.5.6 to 4.0 beta from Kubuntu 7.04?
[02:19] <isthisnickvalid_> Have you tried compiz-fusion?
[02:19] <casperzshado> im wondereing if theres something that i just dont know about kubuntu yet
[02:19] <hsatera> Biovore: i need to access the internet trough the shell, and cannot compile cc/gcc programs;
[02:19] <Biovore> elite101: In theory yes..  but I don't think there any debs guarented to work though..
[02:19] <elite101> ahh
[02:20] <isthisnickvalid_> I think it could be, casperzshado, that Ubuntu uses by default "Compiz" and Kubuntu usually uses Beryl...
[02:20] <elite101> what happens if i try and it works?
[02:20] <Biovore> hsatera: lynx..  a text based web browser?
[02:20] <isthisnickvalid_> and the bug could be only in beryl and not present in Compiz
[02:20] <casperzshado> isthisnickvalid_, i tried that for ubuntu but couldnt get it to work right, thought i would wait until they got the kinks worked out
[02:20] <isthisnickvalid_> You're using NVIDIA's propietary driver, right?
[02:20] <hsatera> Biovore: it has gcc
[02:20] <isthisnickvalid_> From apt-get
[02:20] <hsatera> =/
[02:21] <elite101> anyone using 4.0 beta?
[02:21] <Biovore> hsatera: what is it your tring to do.. I am not really clear what your problem is..
[02:21] <Ronald-> Biovore> Sir, how can I change the  grub boot options? sorry I'm a newbie
[02:21] <casperzshado> isthisnickvalid_, , i'm pretty sure but i dont know where to find the restricted drivers in kubuntu, things are a little different
[02:22] <hsatera> Biovore: want to use a browser trough a remote connection, wich can't compile anything cause i'm not root and do not have gcc installed
[02:22] <Biovore> Ronald-: when it boots you can try pressing esc and then press 'e' to edit the entry..
[02:22] <Biovore> Ronald-: I am not really sure what the fix would be.. might need to check google or the forums..
[02:22] <Biovore> !forums
[02:22] <ubotu> The Ubuntu forums can be found at http://www.ubuntuforums.org. There is also a channel on IRC Freenode #ubuntuforums.
[02:23] <elite101> well gtg
[02:23] <isthisnickvalid_> casperzshado
[02:23] <elite101> bye
[02:23] <isthisnickvalid_> go to "System" and then "Adept"
[02:23] <Biovore> hsatera: so you sshed into this remote shell?
[02:23] <isthisnickvalid_> That's the package manager, like Synaptics
[02:23] <hsatera> telnet.
[02:23] <casperzshado> ok
[02:23] <isthisnickvalid_> and then, there search for nvidia's driver
[02:23] <Ronald-> Biovore> ok, Thank you Sir, at least I have a clue now, I've beenn 2 hours in the ubuntu channel asking the same question and nobody paid me attention
[02:23] <isthisnickvalid_> and install the "new" package (there is another group of packages for older graphic cards)
[02:24] <Biovore> hsatera: ok..  and you want to browser the web on that remote shell?
[02:24] <hsatera> yes.
[02:24] <Biovore> well givin it text only.. your stuck with eather lynx links or w3m was web-based browsers..
[02:25] <Tomi-idle> i think you could use vnc or something like that to use remote X window
[02:25] <Biovore> ^ probably a bette approach..
[02:26] <hsatera> Biovore: all of them use gcc?
[02:26] <Biovore> gcc is a c compiler..
[02:26] <hsatera> yes.
[02:26] <casperzshado> isthisnickvalid_, it doesnt appear i have it, there a lot of them there, how do i know which one to get?
[02:26] <Tomi-idle> hsatera: telnet is not very secure way to connect. ssh is a preferred way
[02:27] <Biovore> I don't see what your asking has to do with a compiler..
[02:27] <casperzshado> sorry did see that
[02:28] <linux_user400354> I have 2 dual layer dvd burners and I want to use them both at once for burning. do I have to run 2 instances of k3b to do that?
[02:28] <hsatera> Biovore: i simply can't compile programs without previous libs
[02:29] <isthisnickvalid_> wait a sec
[02:29] <isthisnickvalid_> casperzshado
[02:29] <Biovore> linux_user400354: dual layer is handeld by the burner.. has nothing to do with software.. k3b should detect it as a dual-layered, I think..
[02:29] <casperzshado> yeah
[02:29] <Biovore> hsatera: what are you compiling?
[02:29] <Tomi-idle> linux_user400354: you might want to check out k3b's site's faq
[02:30] <hsatera> trying lyns.
[02:30] <hsatera> lynx
[02:30] <Tomi-idle> linux_user400354: or forums. might have some info on the subject
[02:30] <Biovore> hsatera: ah the remote box dosn't have lynx or w3m on it, then I guess..
[02:30] <hsatera> no it doesnt.
[02:30] <isthisnickvalid_> casperzshado you have to install nvidia-glx
[02:30] <Biovore> hsatera: do you know what the remote end is running?
[02:31] <Biovore> hsatera: I am guess you don't have a admin account on that remote machine..
[02:31] <hsatera> didnt understand the question
[02:31] <hsatera> no i dont.
[02:31] <isthisnickvalid_> casperzshado: when you finished installing that, open a terminal window (konsole) and type this: sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:31] <Biovore> hsatera: what OS/version is the remote end.. what hardware is it running on..
[02:32] <casperzshado> ok 1 sec
[02:32] <W1ZrD> What kind of bot is the IRC bot here?
[02:32] <hsatera> what should i type to see all this? top ? df?
[02:32] <Biovore> custom thing..
[02:32] <Biovore> hsatera: uname -a
[02:33] <W1ZrD> uh, is the bot written custom from scratch, or is it based off something like Supybot?
[02:33] <linux_user400354> Tomi-idle: http://k3b.plainblack.com/faq i see nothing about it
[02:33] <Biovore> W1ZrD: I think its a custom thing in python or perl..
[02:33] <casperzshado> isthisnickvalid_,  do i have to restart my pc to restart x?
[02:34] <W1ZrD> thnx Biovore, I would have need for one I can custom with ![variable] [string]
[02:34] <hsatera> Biovore: i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[02:34] <Biovore> ok
[02:35] <Biovore> hsatera: lsb_release -cs
[02:35] <hsatera> what will it do/
[02:35] <Biovore> print out the distro and info
[02:36] <Biovore> or lsb_release -a
[02:36] <Tomi-idle> lsb_release -d should be better
[02:36] <hsatera> command not found
[02:36] <Biovore> hsatera: hmm so its not a out of the box linux then..
[02:36] <Biovore> hsatera: custom job
[02:36] <level1_> Hi, is there a way to configure touchpads in kde?
[02:36] <jcs7778> is there a way to configure toutch pads on laptops?
[02:37] <level1_> jcs7778: stop copying me, charles
[02:37] <Tomi-idle> level1_: i think you have to manually edit xorg.conf . let me try to search if there's a gui for it
[02:37] <hsatera> no way to run lynx so?
[02:37] <level1_> Tomi-idle: me and jcs7778 are just looking for a way to configure tap-to-click and scroll-on-edge features
[02:37] <isthisnickvalid_> casperzshado
[02:38] <isthisnickvalid_> you have to restart x
[02:38] <isthisnickvalid_> remember to do the command
[02:38] <isthisnickvalid_> if you haven't done already
[02:38] <Biovore> hsatera: you could build all static implementation for x86 on your box then copy it over..
[02:38] <hsatera> will it work u think?
[02:38] <Biovore> hsatera: in theory you can build lynx if you have access to a gcc compiler though..  but you can't do the standard ./configure make make install procedure though..
[02:39] <hsatera> i have links installed here.
[02:39] <Tomi-idle> level1_: try a program called ksynaptics
[02:39] <Biovore> hsatera: the lynxs is dynamic linked..  you need a static linked version..
[02:39] <hsatera> i have links, not lynx
[02:40] <isthisnickvalid_> Do you know any good strategy game? For online gaming.
[02:40] <hsatera> /usr/share/docs Biovore ?
[02:40] <Biovore> hsatera: If there installed from a deb there probably dynamicly linked and won't work on anothere system..
[02:40] <Tomi-idle> level1_: from what i see ksynaptics seems to do the job you need :)
[02:40] <elite101> mhmm while going threw the programs list i saw this "A very nice MSN compatible messenger application. Works pretty much like its Windows based counterpart. Perfect for keeping in touch with those friends who have not yet seen the light."
[02:40] <elite101> ;)
[02:41] <hsatera> i installed running ./configure
[02:41] <Biovore> hsatera: you would have to build a staticly linked version of lynx or links or whatever then copy the bin over..
[02:41] <level1_> Tomi-idle: whats the command to run it?
[02:41] <Biovore> hsatera: ./configure will give you a dynamic link
[02:41] <runlevelten> battle for wesnoth.
[02:41] <runlevelten> freeciv.
[02:41] <runlevelten> isthisnickvalid_:
[02:41] <Tomi-idle> level1_: alt-f2 and type "ksynaptics"
[02:41] <level1_> Tomi-idle: no, thats not it
[02:41] <hsatera> how do i get it?
[02:42] <hsatera> a static linked?
[02:42] <Tomi-idle> hsatera: there should be a module in kcontrol too
[02:42] <Tomi-idle> hsatera: it works thru alt-f2, but not thru terminal. the command
[02:42] <Biovore> hsatera: it complicated.. basicly google on building things as statics on google.. there extra commands and steps to do it..
[02:42] <Tomi-idle> oops
[02:42] <Biovore> hehe
[02:43] <Tomi-idle> hsatera: i mean to say those to level1_
[02:43] <level1_> Tomi-idle: how is that possible?
[02:43] <Tomi-idle> level1_: because alt-f2 also recognizes kde modules i think
[02:43] <hsatera> and to me?
[02:43] <hsatera> how do i get a static linked program/
[02:43] <Tomi-idle> level1_: so it could be something like "kcontrol ksynaptics" command that it's trying to run
[02:44] <Biovore> hsatera: google on it.. it verys on the package..
[02:44] <Biovore> hsatera: basicly thats at a level where you have to know how linking works and what the OS does when it runs a application..
[02:44] <runlevelten> what you looking for level1_?
[02:45] <Tomi-idle> level1_: you did install the ksynaptics package right?
[02:45] <runlevelten> are you talking about a kcontrol module?
[02:45] <level1_> Tomi-idle, runlevelten: I got it
[02:45] <level1_> thanks
[02:45] <Tomi-idle> np
[02:45] <runlevelten> Ah, OK :)
[02:45] <Tomi-idle> runlevelten: it can be also run through kcontrol
[02:46] <hsatera> Biovore: may i pm u for a second or notice?
[02:46] <isthisnickvalid_> runlevelten, and what about a good RTS game?
[02:53] <adenicio> stdin: when im going to shut tdown the pc i go in K it only got the option log out.cant i change that to show the menu restart or shut down?
[02:54] <adenicio> when im going to shut tdown the pc i go in K it only got the option log out.cant i change that to show the menu restart or shut down?
[02:55] <isthisnickvalid_> bye
[02:56] <ubuntu> isthisnickvalid_: ok worse problem, after restarting my pc, now i cant get to the ligin screen i had this problem in ubuntu i went to the ctrl alt f1 and removed and reinstalled gdm , but appearently kubuntu doesnt use gdm, what does it use for login and would i approacck it the came way?
[02:56] <fkm> kdm
[02:56] <level1> what button do I have to press so that, no matter what, if my finger is not on the left click button my touchpad will not click?
[02:57] <level1> I turned off tapping in ksynaptics but its still tapping
[02:57] <level1> its driving me nuts!
[02:57] <level1> Most frustratating "feature" ever
[02:58] <ubuntu> fkm:  was that for me?
[02:58] <fkm> yes
[02:58] <ubuntu> thank you
[02:58] <fkm> Kubuntu uses kdm (KDE Display Manager)
[02:59] <fkm> But I don't know the answer to the rest of your question
[03:01] <leafw> is there any way to use xrandr to activate an external screen when connected while xorg is already running?
[03:01] <leafw> xrandr -q lists "Reflections possible - none" but if I restart xorg, then the second screen starts working automatically
[03:02] <leafw> the problem is in "hotplugging" an external screen
[03:06] <lucaf3rr> how do I enable compiz and Xgl in Tribe with KDE4b1?
[03:06] <alexandros> hey guys
[03:07] <alexandros> when I try to apt-get install adept-notifier I get the following message:
[03:07] <isthisnickvalid_> ubuntu
[03:07] <isthisnickvalid_> kubuntu uses kdm
[03:07] <alexandros>   adept-notifier: Depends: update-notifier-common but it is not installable
[03:07] <isthisnickvalid_> You can do this
[03:08] <isthisnickvalid_> go to /etc/X11
[03:08] <isthisnickvalid_> and then take the xorg.conf backup that nvdia's driver did and rename it to xorg.conf
[03:08] <isthisnickvalid_> overwriting the new configuration
[03:08] <isthisnickvalid_> perhaps nvidia-glx disable?
[03:09] <alexandros> and when I try to apt-get update-notifier-common I get:
[03:09] <alexandros> Package update-notifier-common is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:09] <alexandros> what should I do ?:D
[03:12] <renato_> anyone know if a virtual machine takes long to start working, because this virtual box has been at 0% for ages?
[03:12] <jdz1394> hey, here's a really noob question. I've installed UT2004 on kubuntu 7.04, how do I run it?
[03:13] <_beata_> Hello hello. Is it possible for the default kernel to handle more than four ISA/PCI serial ports?
[03:13] <Biovore> renato_: virtual box should just boot up..
[03:13] <Biovore> _beata_: it should be able too..
[03:13] <Biovore> _beata_: ass long as the cards are support by the kernel..
[03:13] <Biovore> (as)
[03:14] <_beata_> I get this error on boot: Couldn't register serial port 0000:00:06.0: -28
[03:14] <Biovore> ^ pci serial port?
[03:14] <_beata_> Yes.
[03:14] <Biovore> what uart is on it?
[03:14] <_beata_> 16550A
[03:14] <_beata_> It's the fourth port of a four-port card.
[03:15] <level1> whats the story with linux on intel macs?
[03:15] <level1> does it "run"?
[03:15] <Biovore> oh.. so you got 20 serial ports then?
[03:15] <underdog5004> level1, yes
[03:15] <Biovore> level1: yes...
[03:15] <_beata_> No, I have five ports.
[03:16] <level1> so, the ubuntu intel 32 liveCD would boot and install on a mac?
[03:16] <Biovore> yup
[03:16] <Biovore> broadcom nic
[03:16] <_beata_> I'll elaborate a little, if it isn't sufficiently spammy.
[03:16] <Biovore> intel duo core with intel chipset..
[03:17] <_beata_> Hmm, six lines might be sufficiently spammy. Do we have a paste channel?
[03:17] <Dragnslcr> !paste
[03:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:17] <jeffmitchell> ATTENTION BORED PEOPLE: please test my webserver and tell me if you get anything ---> <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:18] <Biovore> jeffmitchell: Looks like its working..
[03:18] <jeffmitchell> Biovore: what'd you get? is there a file there?
[03:18] <_beata_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33880/
[03:18] <Biovore> yup.. a directory listing with a file blah.txt or something..
[03:19] <jeffmitchell> ok thanks Biovore: one of my friends on kopete also confirmed this. i'm done here, cheers :-)
[03:20] <underdog5004> jeffmitchell, looks good to me, I'm on the West Coast of the US
[03:20] <_beata_> Missed a line.
[03:20] <_beata_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33881/
[03:22] <Biovore> _beata_: it looks like its not assigning it via apic.. only got 16 interrupts..  apic gives you more interrupts..
[03:23] <_beata_> Er, I have apic working.
[03:23] <Biovore> _beata_: sorry.. I read that wrong..
[03:23] <Biovore> _beata_: apic is working..
[03:23] <_beata_> Tee hee. 'does this array start at 0 or 1?'
[03:23] <TehUni> when running glxgears, i get 12000fps. when using compiz, only around 3000fps. is such a drop normal?
[03:25] <Alloosh> hi guys I have ubuntu and I would like to get kubuntu also
[03:25] <Alloosh> how ?
[03:25] <Dragnslcr> Install kubuntu-desktop
[03:25] <TehUni> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:25] <_beata_> I know there's a compile option about the serial driver, but I couldn't find documentation for it when I looked in linux-doc-2.6.20
[03:26] <Biovore> _beata_: not sure.. I havn't mucked with that many serial cards on a box..
[03:26] <newtoubuntu> Could anyone help me get my Wolfentein ET to work?
[03:26] <_beata_> Awr.
[03:27] <Biovore> newtoubuntu: I think it works kinda like Q3..
[03:27] <Alloosh> thanks,
[03:27] <newtoubuntu> I know i'm in the wrong room
[03:27] <newtoubuntu> point me in the right direction?
[03:27] <Biovore> newtoubuntu: you download the linux patch, install it, and then copy the pak files of the cd onto the game directory..
[03:27] <newtoubuntu> everything seems to be installed and patched
[03:28] <newtoubuntu> game loads up and everything
[03:28] <newtoubuntu> just no server list
[03:28] <_beata_> I have a serial Palm and two SGI dialbox sets, plus the occational debug console on ttyS0
[03:28] <Biovore> hmm.. not sure whats going on there..
[03:28] <newtoubuntu> and i can connect to a server manualy, but then i get an empycdkey ban
[03:28] <Biovore> newtoubuntu: hmm.. in Q3 there was a option to set your cdkey
[03:29] <newtoubuntu> pb says to enter in console "/pb_cdkeyreg" but to no avail
[03:29] <Biovore> ET should have the sme option
[03:29] <newtoubuntu> i'll check again
[03:30] <newtoubuntu> nope, on the option
[03:31] <newtoubuntu> maybe i'll just download Q3 or something
[03:31] <Biovore> newtoubuntu: I played ET on linux 4 years ago.. I don't remember how it works any more..
[03:32] <newtoubuntu> yeah, it should work, but it seems alot of people are having problems with it
[03:33] <newtoubuntu> you think i'll have this much trouble with Q3?
[03:34] <newtoubuntu> or better yet you know of any other free FPS for ubuntu?
[03:34] <lucaf3rr> How do I change to using Xgl as my default x-server?
[03:34] <newtoubuntu> besides Tremulous?
[03:35] <Biovore> alienarena
[03:35] <Biovore> www.happypenguin.com
[03:35] <Biovore> http://happypenguin.org/
[03:35] <elite101> hey "gnash" or flash will that be intergrated into Firefox? or only Konqueror?
[03:36] <elite101> or will i still have to download the plugin-in ?
[03:36] <newtoubuntu> thanks yeah i was on the fence with alien arena, but that's what i'll do
[03:36] <newtoubuntu> and one more question? should i upgrade to kubuntu?
[03:36] <Biovore> there is a counter strike like clone as well
[03:36] <elite101> ^?
[03:37] <Biovore> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde and not gnome.. there basicly the same thing..
[03:37] <newtoubuntu> yeah i know
[03:37] <newtoubuntu> just didn't know how to word it
[03:37] <elite101> Kubuntu is better
[03:37] <elite101> ;)
[03:37] <newtoubuntu> all i needed to know
[03:37] <elite101> well thats my opinion
[03:37] <elite101> try both of them and see
[03:37] <newtoubuntu> appreciated guys, proably see me in the near future
[03:37] <newtoubuntu> i'm on ubuntu now
[03:37] <newtoubuntu> but i will
[03:37] <elite101> lol
[03:38] <elite101> why not keep both??!!
[03:38] <newtoubuntu> point me to some reading material, or if it's that simple how?
[03:40] <Biovore> to kubuntu just install kubuntu-desktop
[03:40] <Biovore> (to get)
[03:41] <newtoubuntu> alright, how do i keep gnome as well?
[03:41] <Biovore> (sudo apt-get instlal kbuntu-desktop)
[03:44] <newtoubuntu> will i still be able to run everything i've acciured so far if i install kubuntu?
[03:45] <Biovore> yup..  you can select between gnome and kde at login.
[03:45] <Biovore> just adding stuff
[03:45] <newtoubuntu> alright, thanks again
[03:46] <newtoubuntu> shall return to ask stupid question another day
[03:46] <casperzshado> ok i installed my nvidia driver and i was talkin to someone earlier about enabling it but hes not here anymore, does anyone know what to type at the terminal in order to enable my nvidia driver?
[03:49] <casperzshado> sudo apt-get something enable
[03:51] <murchadh> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:51] <elite101> wow vista theme for firefox looks verygood and clean 5stars:*****
[03:51] <murchadh> casperzshado: ^^^Sorry, I think this is what you want.
[03:51] <elite101> ohh sorry for getting in the way my bad!
[03:52] <murchadh> elite101: Hehe
[03:54] <elite101> hey if u can run linux/kubuntu on Mac cant u get "wine" and use windows programs on it too?
[03:55] <Eeyore-Jr> is there a way to set a bogus printer in kubuntu ?
[03:57] <casperzshado> im not sure i know what that did
[03:57] <Biovore> Eeyore-Jr: you can setup a pdf printer..
[03:58] <Biovore> nvidia-glx enable?
[03:59] <BluesKaj> still on the coffee at this hr genii, or are you on the niteshift ?
[03:59] <jhutchins> elite101: There are a number of different ways to run windows programs on a Mac, wine works for some.
[03:59] <elite101> lol
[03:59] <elite101> ahaha*
[04:00] <jhutchins> elite101: There have been commercial emulators for ages.
[04:00] <elite101> okay well i dont own a mac but thought it could be done
[04:00] <elite101> lol
[04:00] <jhutchins> elite101: Running on Mac OS and OS-X.
[04:00] <elite101> well do u have to own a "mac/linux" or will any ol'kubuntu work on a mac?
[04:00] <jhutchins> elite101: Pretty sure VMWare will run on OS-X, not sure how hosting OS-X goes.
[04:00] <elite101> lol
[04:01] <elite101> so i can run mac-osx inside PC linux?
[04:01] <Biovore> vmware for OS-X is call fusion
[04:01] <murchadh> casperzshado: It configs your xorg-server and should allow you to select the correct driver for your card. But I'm not all that sure about the nvidia stuff. Biovore had a suggestion above....^^
[04:01] <jhutchins> elite101: I don't know about the PPC versions - some distros are dropping that, because it's extra work and there are fewer and fewer out ther.
[04:01] <genii> BluesKaj: I'm on my home box tryinmg to wire my cellphone to the bluetooth adapter :)
[04:01] <elite101> murchadh, why did i start WW3 again? what was it about?
[04:01] <BluesKaj> aha genii ...good luck :)
[04:02] <genii> Some progress :)
[04:02] <jhutchins> Basically anything you can do with a computer, you can do with a Mac - for a price.
[04:02] <elite101> lol
[04:02] <elite101> no doubt
[04:03] <elite101> ohh lol
[04:04] <elite101> 1 button mouse and thats its incompatiable and stuff* and u cant build it
[04:04] <elite101> i remember
[04:04] <BluesKaj> ok, you experts i got a question about bad HDD sectors ...do they show up as "used or files" on the disk
[04:04] <BluesKaj> ?
[04:05] <elite101> idk
[04:06] <BluesKaj> genii, ? what do you think ?
[04:06] <murchadh> BluesKaj: What FS, ext3?
[04:06] <elite101> NTFS?
[04:06] <elite101> lol
[04:07] <BluesKaj> no NTFS... a friend's new install ...he won't be linux ready for a while
[04:07] <genii> BluesKaj: I know thats how it worked (works now?) on windoze. ext I dunno, they may have a more sophisticated classification way
[04:08] <BluesKaj> we installed XP PRO, real clean ...his HDD shows 40G used on the disk
[04:09] <BluesKaj> his son's shows 8.5 with practically the same stuff
[04:09] <BluesKaj> looking at a dying HDD , maybe
[04:10] <murchadh> BluesKaj: What are the total sizes of the partition/Drive?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> 1 partition only ,120g
[04:15] <BluesKaj> BBL
[04:15] <goban_> whats the KDE process manager? i have a java embeded frame that wont go away
[04:16] <jhutchins> goban_: ctrl-esc
[04:16] <jhutchins> goban_: ctrl-alt-esc if you want a window killer.
[04:16] <goban_> oh thanks :))
[04:17] <goban_> oh wow 20 coppies of amarok running
[04:18] <murchadh> goban_: What does that sound like?
[04:18] <goban_> nothing, amarok wont display the GUI
[04:18] <goban_> otherwise it might sound like aphex twin :)
[04:18] <jeffmitchell> hi all, does anyone know what i can use to send files across my lan? i have a dedicated webserver with nothing attached but power and a ethernet cable. what software do i need?
[04:18] <_beata_> I may well have to rebuild my kernel.
[04:19] <murchadh> goban_: Hehe... kill 'em all!
[04:19] <Eeyore-Jr> Biovore: i need to setup a bogus hp laserjet to test a crash function
[04:19] <robotgeek> jeffmitchell: ftp server might be easiest
[04:19] <elite101> does "sigkill" kill all prosseces?
[04:19] <jeffmitchell> robotgeek: via apt-get??
[04:19] <robotgeek> jeffmitchell: however, there is a simple sharing option in System Settings that might be easier
[04:20] <Eeyore-Jr> so, i need to tell it, it's a parallel printer and what printer it is without being required to have a parallell port hooked up.  i suppose i could create a loop back parallel port
[04:21] <murchadh> jeffmitchell: Is the dedicated server running *nix; if so setup samba to share files.
[04:22] <_beata_> I've had a bit of trouble with samba, myself.
[04:23] <jeffmitchell> murchadh: they're both linux systems. but my server has no GUI or monitor.
[04:23] <_beata_> Can you telnet/ssh into the server?
[04:23] <jeffmitchell> me? yes i can ssh into it.
[04:24] <Dragnslcr> scp might be the simplest way to just copy files
[04:25] <murchadh> _beata_: Lotsa trouble or just the seriously underreported bug that came with the last upgrade [still not fixed] ?
[04:25] <jeffmitchell> scp??
[04:25] <jeffmitchell> how about ftp/tftp/samba?
[04:25] <elite101> hey what is the program to manage Clusters? like so i can log into them and controll them from the "master node"
[04:25] <_beata_> I don't know about the bug.
[04:25] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, copies files across an SSH connection
[04:25] <Dragnslcr> !scp
[04:25] <ubotu> SCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/
[04:25] <elite101> it starts with an "M"
[04:25] <elite101> moeix i think?
[04:25] <elite101> !moeix
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about moeix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <_beata_> Biggest problem is I can't browse the samba server.
[04:25] <elite101> !cluster
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cluster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:26] <elite101> shoot*
[04:26] <robotgeek> openmosix
[04:26] <_beata_> Amd it didn't like to work with windows 2000 client.
[04:26] <jeffmitchell> cool. i think i know what i'm doing now. cheers for the suggestions guys :)
[04:26] <elite101> ohh
[04:28] <murchadh> _beata_: The bug adds a line msdns proxy = "" if the share is created/altered via konqueror, and then the samba server won't start. Removing the offending line fixes it. But to the browse - is the option enabled in the [global]  section of /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:28] <elite101> well say i install kubuntu to the "slave" nodes what do i need for it to be connected to the master node? ssh? and thats it? or do i need to run openmosix on all of the pc's
[04:29] <_beata_> I think so..haven't touched it in a couple months. And the last time I set up samba, about three years ago with Debian, I had similar problems getting it all working.
[04:29] <robotgeek> elite101: no, you have to run openmosix on all of them
[04:29] <elite101> okay and this is the only tool i need?
[04:29] <elite101> allot of tut's out there are only using Redhat 7.1
[04:29] <elite101> but i dont have 80$
[04:29] <robotgeek> elite101: i am not sure, it has been 3 years since i messed with it. sorry
[04:29] <goban_> can any phone run kubuntu?
[04:30] <elite101> lol okay
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> goban_: maybe...
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> goban_: but none do that i've seen
[04:30] <nosrednaekim> it would be a waste of resources
[04:30] <_beata_> Aha. I seem to not have a browse setting in [global]
[04:31] <murchadh> _beata_: Let me check, brb!
[04:31] <_beata_> Samba really seems to be a case of RWFM?
[04:35] <jeffmitchell> anyone know how i grab files off a server computer which is running vsftpd via CLI? (they're both linux boxes)
[04:35] <holycow> jeffmitchell: it would be easier to use ssh
[04:35] <holycow> and scp
[04:35] <holycow> man scp and google scp examples
[04:36] <murchadh> _beata_: OK, my bad! I have a browseable = no under some of my shares but not in my global which kinda indicates that browseable = yes may be the default, but I would try adding browseable = yes to one of your shares and restarting samba to see if you can browse that share after. Worth a go.
[04:36] <jeffmitchell> errrrr ok. i'll check that. i hate man pages :( ... maybe i'll try help.ubuntu.com if it makes no sense...
[04:36] <_beata_> I'm not able to see the samba server from the client in the browser, at all.
[04:37] <stoned> hi
[04:38] <robotgeek> jeffmitchell: i usually use lftp
[04:38] <stoned> I am on Kubuntu AMD64 Feisty and using kde 3.5.7.  I am also using mplayer and upon playing an X-men cartoon episode it says Requested audio codec family [mp3
[04:38] <stoned> er.. mp3 not found, enable it compilation mp3lib
[04:38] <robotgeek> jeffmitchell: i particularly like the "mirrir" option
[04:38] <robotgeek> mirror, err
[04:38] <jeffmitchell> is this the right syntax to connect? "scp user@host -P 1337"
[04:39] <jeffmitchell> and yes, i'm using port 1337 :D
[04:39] <BluesKaj> stoned libxine-extracodecs
[04:40] <stoned> DluesKab no dice
[04:40] <stoned> BluesKaj:
[04:40] <_beata_> Chewing on smb.conf for a while now.
[04:40] <Biovore> jeffmitchell: I think thats right.. might be little p
[04:41] <BluesKaj> oops sorry stoned...getting tired , I was thinking of kaffeiine
[04:41] <jeffmitchell> Biovore: i still get nothing, regardless of lower/upper case. there's no response, i just get the prompt back. what the hell am i meant to do?
[04:42] <BluesKaj> maybe I'd better hit the sack, ...nite all ..take care '
[04:42] <jeffmitchell> the server only needs openssh-server right? or do i need something else?
[04:42] <stoned> oh hey
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> jeffmitchell: for scp, you are supposed to specify a file to transfer., and the location to put it
[04:43] <stoned> I don't know if this matters, but the audio does work.  I get sound, however I still recieve that error message
[04:43] <Biovore> jeffmitchell: -P works here..
[04:43] <Biovore> jeffmitchell: and need to be setup
[04:43] <murchadh> _beata_: Are smbclient and samba-common installed on the client? Is there a firewall?
[04:43] <nosrednaekim> jeffmitchell: "scp file.txt user@host:/home/user/file.txt -P 1337"
[04:44] <jeffmitchell> yeah i think i've got it now... 1 sec...
[04:44] <Biovore> jeffmitchell: is the ssh-server listening on port 1337?
[04:45] <_beata_> Nope no firewall.
[04:45] <jeffmitchell> yep, 1337 it is =)
[04:46] <nosrednaekim> how l337 of you :)
[04:47] <greenkobold> does anyone know if, in using bootcdwrite, and configuring NOT_TO_RAM="/home" in the bootcdwrite.conf, if that will make my home files unwritable?
[04:49] <murchadh> _beata_: Client can ping the server? Both machines using the same workgroup name? To recap; what are the OSs of the server and the client?
[04:49] <greenkobold> i mean the home files of the livecd created
[04:50] <nosrednaekim> greenkobold: I think that means that those files are not automatically put to ram...
[04:50] <nosrednaekim> greenkobold: not sure though... maybe burn one and test ;)
[04:51] <greenkobold> i'll do that. thanks, i am new to this stuff, its good to know that i am thinking reasonable stuff
[04:51] <Mr_Sonoma> !sane
[04:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sane - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:51] <nosrednaekim> yeah... thats reasonable :)
[04:52] <Mr_Sonoma> anyone got any tips on setting up sane? (for a flat bed scanner) or a good wiki howto?
[04:52] <holycow> Mr_Sonoma: just install it
[04:52] <holycow> if your scanner is supported it will be detected automatically via usb
[04:52] <holycow> if its not it won't
[04:53] <Mr_Sonoma> hmmmm
[04:53] <holycow> what kind of scanner do you have?
[04:54] <Mr_Sonoma> now i wonder if the scanner is dead. sane's site says its supported.
[04:55] <Crell> Hi all.  If I'm compiling a fresh kernel, using git sources, what's the proper way to tell it that I'm using a dual-core system?  With the default config it didn't seem to notice that fact.
[04:55] <Mr_Sonoma> its a SCANMAGIC 1200 (whats wrote on the lid)
[04:55] <Tomi-idle> Mr_Sonoma: i have a mustek 1200 and i think they're basically the same scanner. didn't get mine to work :(
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> Crell: you have to compile SMP support into the kernel
[04:56] <nosrednaekim> its an option
[04:56] <void_math> lol
[04:56] <Crell> I didn't do anything to the base config.  Does make menuconfig work the same with the AUTOBUILD instructions on the wiki?
[04:56] <void_math> Ubuntu servers shut down for attacking others
[04:56] <void_math> Network those absos
[04:57] <void_math> By Nick Farrell: Wednesday 15 August 2007, 16:15
[04:57] <void_math> Click here to find out more!
[04:57] <void_math> MAKER OF the Open Sauce Ubuntu software, Cannonical had to shut down five of the eight of its servers after receiving reports that they were attacking other servers.
[04:57] <void_math> Knowing that there is nothing worse than a bunch of chavish Linux servers looking for a rumble, or goading Windows computers with calls of, "Come and have a go, if you're hard enough," Cannonical decided to pull the plug.
[04:57] <Mr_Sonoma> yea i think mustek makes it although i couldnt find that name on the scanner anymore but the 1200 ub plus according to the sane project site says its supported.....this scanner's been in storage for a while needed it so i pulled it out was hoping it would work.
[04:57] <void_math> With the offending servers out of action, Cannonical called for probation reports and found that the servers had a variety of problems.
[04:57] <void_math> Not only had the servers not been taking their security patches, which tends to make most servers a bit aggressive. There was a marked disparity between themselves and other posher servers.
[04:57] <void_math> A Cannonical spokesman said that it was not surprising that the servers were feeling disaffected and socially isolated. While other servers in the Linux world are regularly upgraded they had missed out because there were problems finding drivers for the network cards.
[04:57] <void_math> The problem has still not been resolved and Cannonical were going to talk to the server's parent community.
[04:57] <void_math> We guess the problem is that you can't give a server an asbo.
[04:57] <Crell> void_math: DO NOT FLOOD!
[04:58] <holycow> Mr_Sonoma: well plug it in and just turn on xsane
[04:58] <holycow> it will serach for it
[04:58] <Mr_Sonoma> been there done that, that's why im askin....*sigh* oh well guess mine's in the same boat as yours =)
[04:58] <Crell> nosrednaekim: I didn't do anything to the base config.  Does make menuconfig work the same with the AUTOBUILD instructions on the wiki?
[04:59] <nosrednaekim> Crell: I haven't built a kernel in forever... I don't know... I just know you need that option in there
[04:59] <VinWista> Ubuntu servers shut down for attacking others
[04:59] <VinWista> Network those absos
[04:59] <VinWista> By Nick Farrell: Wednesday 15 August 2007, 16:15
[04:59] <VinWista> Click here to find out more!
[04:59] <VinWista> MAKER OF the Open Sauce Ubuntu software, Cannonical had to shut down five of the eight of its servers after receiving reports that they were attacking other servers.
[04:59] <VinWista> Knowing that there is nothing worse than a bunch of chavish Linux servers looking for a rumble, or goading Windows computers with calls of, "Come and have a go, if you're hard enough," Cannonical decided to pull the plug.
[04:59] <VinWista> With the offending servers out of action, Cannonical called for probation reports and found that the servers had a variety of problems.
[04:59] <VinWista> Not only had the servers not been taking their security patches, which tends to make most servers a bit aggressive. There was a marked disparity between themselves and other posher servers.
[04:59] <VinWista> A Cannonical spokesman said that it was not surprising that the servers were feeling disaffected and socially isolated. While other servers in the Linux world are regularly upgraded they had missed out because there were problems finding drivers for the network cards.
[04:59] <VinWista> The problem has still not been resolved and Cannonical were going to talk to the server's parent community.
[04:59] <VinWista> We guess the problem is that you can't give a server an asbo.
[05:00] <Mr_Sonoma> it recognises it and gives a failed to open gt68xx:libusb:001:007 invalid argument
[05:00] <owner> im new to the linux fam. what is some of the most important packages i should download
[05:01] <holycow> Mr_Sonoma: i don't know what aht error means, you might want to google it
[05:01] <holycow> chances are someone else had the same error
[05:01] <holycow> Mr_Sonoma: my guess it's a permissions error
[05:01] <Mr_Sonoma> owner, depends on what ya wanna do
[05:01] <holycow> every time i had a problem with scanners it was a permissions error
[05:01] <holycow> there is a chance that udev didn't create the device node but since you detected it maybe thats a wrong guess
[05:02] <nosrednaekim> owner: whatever you need! there are so many...
[05:02] <greenkobold> what are these void_math and Vin_Wista???
[05:02] <holycow> owner: the most important ones are the ones most valuable toyou :)
[05:02] <holycow> greenkobold: script kiddies that just learned how to click a few buttons in a visual basic app designed to do pathetic things like flood irc channels
[05:03] <murchadh> Mr_Sonoma: Try running sane as root, maybe? Just to see..... I'm not recomending it long term!
[05:03] <Mr_Sonoma> might be worth a try...hold on
[05:05] <_beata_> I've met a scanner that will scan with scanimage but not with xscanimge.
[05:07] <_beata_> I *think* that scanbuttond will fix that though, but I haven't tried. It's a CanoScan LiDE 20 I think.
[05:10] <Mr_Sonoma> no luck
[05:10] <Mr_Sonoma> same error
[05:10] <owner> What is a good p2p client for ubuntu
[05:13] <mecannotread> owner: emule I think
[05:13] <greenkobold> holycow: thye' mus see, me love your nick, man |o| still about making a live cd out of my runnig distro with bootcdwrite, could anyone kindly see this output, from line 38 to 43, I have no idea of what is going on: http://paste.milk-it.net/555
[05:14] <holycow> Mr_Sonoma: google the error message, thats probably the next step
[05:15] <holycow> i don't have a set of debuggin steps for scanners yet
[05:16] <holycow> greenkobold: no idea what that is i won't be able to help
[05:16] <holycow> sorry
[05:17] <murchadh> Mr_Sonoma: Is it a usb scanner? Does lsusb show it up?
[05:18] <Mr_Sonoma> yes its a usb scanner and yes it shows
[05:18] <Mr_Sonoma> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 05d8:4002 Ultima Electronics Corp. Artec Ultima 2000 (GT6801 based)/Lifetec LT9385 Scanner
[05:21] <klobster> My system has developed the nasty effect of hanging for 2 sec to 60 sec randomly.  I was able to pull this from the logs, but I can't decipher it.  it looks like it is getting exceptions while reading the disk? http://dpaste.com/16885/
[05:22] <holycow> sounds like the ide problem
[05:22] <holycow> i've had that with not feisty but the previous version
[05:22] <Biovore> klobster: sata?
[05:22] <klobster> Biovore: yeah
[05:22] <holycow> it will start scanning a cdrom ide and crash and the subsystem will be restarted
[05:22] <stoned> I am on Kubuntu AMD64 Feisty and using kde 3.5.7.  I am also using mplayer and upon playing an X-men cartoon episode it says Requested audio codec family mp3 not found, enable it compilation mp3lib
[05:23] <holycow> ata1: port is slow to respond, please be patient (Status 0x80)
[05:23] <holycow> thats exactly what i had
[05:23] <klobster> holycow: for me it is just while accessing the disk, I haven't used my dvd-rom drives in weeks
[05:23] <stoned> but... the sound works and I can hear it
[05:23] <holycow> i hope my infogives you a bit to google against the bug tracker, the fixes are supposed to be in feisty
[05:23] <stoned> I still get the error message
[05:23] <holycow> you don't haveto use your cdrom
[05:24] <holycow> it will scan the bus anyway to discover devices
[05:24] <Biovore> klobster: Might have something to do with the sata controller..   Sata works fine here..
[05:24] <jeffmitchell> hey everyone, my FTP server isn't working. i log in as "anonymous" and use my email address as my password, but all I get is this: "500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable anonymous root" ... where did i screw up?
[05:24] <klobster> holycow: ok google launchpad for cdrom subsystem ide problem crash ?
[05:25] <holycow> yeah that sounds like a good start
[05:25] <holycow> at least my confirmation will let you recognize the bug when you run into it
[05:25] <klobster> Biovore: i thought that too, but I found someone who has the same issue with a via controller
[05:25] <Biovore> jeffmitchell: With proftp you have to setup permission for anonymous access..
[05:26] <klobster> holycow: ok, google I can do, thanks for the input!
[05:26] <jeffmitchell> i'm using vsftpd, is it any different?
[05:26] <holycow> sure
[05:26] <holycow> jeffmitchell: check the settings in /etc/vsftpd
[05:26] <holycow> that ftp is pretty well locked down and you need to enable a few things
[05:27] <holycow> you will also haveto log in as a user and NOT root
[05:27] <Biovore> jeffmitchell: vsftp is alot different then proftpd
[05:27] <holycow> don't be trying such stupid things
[05:27] <jeffmitchell> i have checked the conf file. the client machine has no write access, and it only lets anonymous users login
[05:27] <stoned> hello
[05:27] <stoned> please help me
[05:27] <stoned> =(
[05:28] <Biovore> jeffmitchell: that sounds right..
[05:28] <holycow> stoned:  just follow the instructions and install the codecs anyway
[05:28] <stoned> I am on Kubuntu AMD64 Feisty and using kde 3.5.7.  I am also using mplayer and upon playing an X-men cartoon episode it says Requested audio codec family mp3 not found, enable it compilation mp3lib, however the audio still works.  I have sound
[05:28] <stoned> holycow: i did
[05:28] <stoned> holycow: all of them are installed
[05:29] <Biovore> jeffmitchell: http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html
[05:29] <stoned> I don't understand why I am getting this error, alongside audio as well.  the video is fine, audio is fine, in sync, but still I get this error message
[05:29] <holycow> oh you are using mplayer
[05:29] <holycow> ah you will haveto recompile to enable that
[05:30] <stoned> but i have audio in the file i am playing as well as video
[05:30] <holycow> thats only there because some dipshit that encoded it used some weird codec
[05:30] <stoned> it runs fine!
[05:30] <holycow> download another xmen thats encoded differently
[05:30] <holycow> or
[05:30] <holycow> use totem instead
[05:30] <Biovore> stoned: the avi file has the wrong codec code on it.. mplayer is probably making a guess and getting it right..
[05:30] <holycow> mplayer doesn't actually use the plugins that are installed
[05:30] <holycow> mplayer is its own self contained beast
[05:30] <stoned> Biovore: I have w64codecs installed
[05:30] <stoned> everything is playable, even realmedia
[05:30] <holycow> it doesn't matter
[05:31] <stoned> and quicktime and all that
[05:31] <holycow> mplayer doesn't use any codecs you install
[05:31] <stoned> why?
[05:31] <Biovore> ^ yu[
[05:31] <holycow> it has all its own plugin structure
[05:31] <holycow> its not integrated
[05:31] <Biovore> www.mplayerhq.hu
[05:31] <holycow> totem is integrated, use that
[05:31] <holycow> or use vlc
[05:31] <stoned> yes and i have the codecs installed
[05:31] <Biovore> totem I think us just a front end for xine..
[05:31] <sheldonc> any good crash diagnostic apps?
[05:31] <Biovore> application debugging?
[05:31] <stoned> holycow: I don't want to change my media player
[05:32] <holycow> stoned: well then i gave you the answer
[05:32] <holycow> recompile mplayer
[05:32] <stoned> holycow: I don't want to use a different program I want to get this issue resolved
[05:32] <Biovore> stoned: does mplayer play it fine?
[05:32] <stoned> Biovore: yes
[05:32] <holycow> or find a properly encoded video file .. .translation, don't trust windows weenies
[05:32] <stoned> I've said it many times however no one can see it
[05:32] <Biovore> whats the issue?
[05:32] <holycow> stoned: i fricking told you the answer
[05:32] <holycow> what do you mean no one sees it?
[05:32] <holycow> i think you just don't want to hear the answer
[05:32] <holycow> take it or leave it
[05:32] <stoned> apparantly you are blind
[05:33] <stoned> I am looking to understand the problem
[05:33] <holycow> i told you the solution
[05:33] <stoned> if you can't be productive, then please try not to help
[05:33] <holycow> you aren't even reading
[05:33] <sheldonc> settle down kids
[05:33] <holycow> *shrug*
[05:33] <sheldonc> its just irc :)
[05:33] <stoned> Biovore: so yes, the video works fine, and the sound is good on it, its in sync, everything is as normal as it could be, except that I get this error message.  I have all of the mplayer codecs instlaled
[05:34] <stoned> Biovore: of course I can recompile mplayer, I _can_ read and did read the error message, so holycow hasn't suggested anything new or useful.  I was hoping you could shed some light on the matter
[05:34] <klobster> holycow: found that cdrom bug, not the same.  Thanks nonetheless, i guess I'll post a bug track
[05:34] <holycow> klobster: right, it will probably be related
[05:35] <sheldonc> i have an easy question - if my computer fubars itself, (i.e. k3b brings down my whole computer after finishing a dvd) is there any tool that would help me build a good crash report ?
[05:35] <niser> hello
[05:35] <klobster> holycow: That thread suggested hardware issues; I hope that's not the case.
[05:36] <holycow> klobster: oh its possible
[05:36] <Biovore> stoned: I have noticed that some video I get have wacked out video and/or audio emutation numbers.   Mplayer notices that the number it states for the audio dosn't match anything in is database (mplayer -ac help) It then moves on and makes a guess based on the first few bytes of the file..
[05:36] <holycow> if you have an option, try a different hd
[05:36] <stoned> Biovore: I started the mplayer in console and I did not recive the message, but it all works
[05:36] <stoned> VIDEO:  [DIV3]   320x240  24bpp  30.000 fps  462.4 kbps (56.4 kbyte/s)
[05:36] <Biovore> I run mplayer on the console all the time..
[05:36] <stoned> Biovore: usually I browse inkonqueror and click :)
[05:37] <Biovore> you can also to vidio filters on the video from the console..
[05:37] <stoned> hmm I wonder if it is because I have artsd turned off
[05:37] <Biovore> mplayer <filename> -vf softblur,fspp
[05:37] <Biovore> I don't use artsd
[05:37] <stoned> neither do I
[05:37] <Biovore> I do have mplayer using alsa though..
[05:38] <stoned> ok
[05:38] <stoned> I get this error in gmplayer then
[05:38] <stoned> not mplayer
[05:38] <Biovore> mplayer -vf help  <-- list of video filters and deinterlacers..
[05:38] <Biovore> gmplayer is a graphical font end for mplayer..  could pass some weird command line option..
[05:38] <stoned> from cli it is fine, but if i launch the video by clicking in konqueror ont he file icon, it gives the error message
[05:38] <Biovore> kmplayer also might be an option..
[05:39] <Biovore> I have used that alot and it seems to work fine..
[05:39] <stoned> I like kplayer
[05:39] <stoned> I don't know if it is even developed anymore
[05:39] <speaker219> omg stoned
[05:40] <stoned> the only place I know of is Christain Marillat
[05:40] <stoned> debian multimedia
[05:40] <stoned> unless I compile from source
[05:40] <stoned> speaker219: ?
[05:40] <stoned> I would use vlc no problem
[05:40] <Biovore> kmplayer is in the ubuntu repos..
[05:41] <stoned> except, that you can't scroll through the video with mouseplayer
[05:41] <stoned> er.. mouse wheel
[05:41] <stoned> you know, forward, rewind using mousewhell back/forth
[05:41] <Biovore> or single step frames with .
[05:41] <stoned> if you could do that in vlc video I would use it fultime
[05:41] <stoned> yes that too
[05:41] <stoned> especially when you want to see some celebrity camel toe
[05:41] <greenkobold> there seems to be a file here that is not aceessible to the super user. mkisofs: Permission denied. cannot open '/sys/module/sbs/parameters/capacity_mode' how can i allow root to open it?
[05:41] <Biovore> mplayer is kinda cool.. because if it can play it.. you can use mencoder to re-encode it..
[05:41] <stoned> I mean.. ahem, stuff
[05:41] <stoned> yup
[05:42] <Biovore> Thats how I rip dvd;s
[05:42] <stoned> problem is
[05:42] <stoned> dvd drive is inmy pc on linux
[05:42] <stoned> while easy to use softwoare is on my windows box
[05:42] <stoned> I just use my windows box to rip dvds on the network
[05:42] <stoned> it takes a long time but hey whatever
[05:43] <Biovore> I have it all setup here.. In linux I can rip the vob then split the process onto multipule computers for encoding.. takes me 30 mins to do a 2 hour movie.
[05:44] <Biovore> thats with 2 pass x264
[05:44] <Biovore> and filters
[05:44] <holycow> lol so its you who is encoding the videos with shit codecs
[05:44] <holycow> lol
[05:44] <holycow> well ain't that ironic
[05:45] <Scorpaen> hey folks
[05:45] <holycow> just buggin ya :)
[05:45] <Biovore> man.. x264 rules :-)
[05:45] <holycow> might be easier to check your encoding settings
[05:45] <Scorpaen> i need to install kernel 2.6.18 on Gutsy -- where do i get it?
[05:45] <Biovore> only thing that comes close is xvid
[05:45] <stoned> Biovore: i'd just ignore the morons online
[05:45] <Biovore> Scorpaen: err why?
[05:45] <stoned> x264 is grand
[05:46] <Scorpaen> Biovore: i need Vmware Workstation to run :(
[05:46] <Biovore> Scorpaen: I don't think it will work..
[05:46] <Scorpaen> i start school on the 22nd
[05:46] <Scorpaen> I need a working XP
[05:46] <Biovore> Scorpaen: and vmware work station works with out 2.6.18
[05:46] <Scorpaen> Biovore: how??
[05:46] <Biovore> Scorpaen: you need to install the kernel headers and dev tools..
[05:46] <holycow> why do you need a new kernel for vmware workstation?
[05:46] <Biovore> Scorpaen: then run the vmware-config.pl script.
[05:46] <holycow> it will just co,mpile everything against your current one
[05:46] <Scorpaen> Biovore: done that
[05:46] <Biovore> IT will build the kernel modules for your kernel..
[05:46] <Scorpaen> it won't compile vmmon
[05:46] <Biovore> what error?
[05:47] <holycow> don't be installing an dcompiling a  new kernl unless you know how
[05:47] <Biovore> just modules
[05:47] <Scorpaen> holycow: i came from Gentoo. i'm used to this crap
[05:47] <holycow> Scorpaen: ah, well then, have fun :)
[05:47] <holycow> i won't have any usefull info for you unfortunately
[05:47] <Scorpaen> hrm
[05:47] <Scorpaen> holycow: do you have workstation 6 working on gutsy?
[05:48] <Biovore> Scorpaen: I am running vmware here on feisty.. no problems..
[05:48] <holycow> gutsy?
[05:48] <Scorpaen> if someone has it working, please let me know
[05:48] <holycow> whats wrong with you
[05:48] <Scorpaen> yeah
[05:48] <holycow> gutsy is beta
[05:48] <Scorpaen> oh man
[05:48] <holycow> you shouldn't expect beta software to actually work
[05:48] <holycow> lol
[05:48] <Biovore> 2.6.20-15-generic
[05:48] <Scorpaen> lol
[05:48] <Scorpaen> i know
[05:48] <Scorpaen> i um
[05:48] <holycow> not only is it a beta
[05:48] <Scorpaen> i dunno why
[05:48] <holycow> its a beta of a beta
[05:48] <Scorpaen> everything works but VMWARE
[05:48] <Scorpaen> :(
[05:48] <Biovore> holycow: have they got to RC1 yet?
[05:48] <holycow> ubuntu freezes off of debian unstable which is alpha to begin with
[05:48] <holycow> Biovore: i haven't bothered checking
[05:49] <Scorpaen> oh man
[05:49] <holycow> Scorpaen: so what are you running, gutsy?
[05:49] <Biovore> ok.. same page here.. don't care untill its done..
[05:49] <Scorpaen> what have i done
[05:49] <kazuma_> heelp
[05:49] <kazuma_> please
[05:49] <Biovore> !ask
[05:49] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:49] <Scorpaen> holycow: AMD 2800+ Barton core, 2.5 GB ram
[05:49] <holycow> Scorpaen: you installed build-essential and kernel headers?
[05:49] <kazuma_> how may i install a 3D animated wallpaper in kubuntu feisty xD
[05:49] <Scorpaen> holycow: let me make sure
[05:49] <Scorpaen> brb
[05:49] <holycow> kazuma_: you don't
[05:49] <kazuma_> yeah
[05:49] <kazuma_> i can
[05:49] <Crell> OK, so I'm trying to do a kernel build using make menuconfig.  When I do so, however, I get a long list of errors in scripts/kconfig/lxdialog/dialog.h and similar files.  This is with a fresh kernel.org tarball.  Any ideas what that could be other than a busted kernel.org download?
[05:49] <holycow> kazuma_: that doesn't exist yet here
[05:49] <Crell> (The tarball unpacked fine.)
[05:49] <kazuma_> yes dudde
[05:50] <kazuma_> check
[05:50] <kazuma_> in youtube
[05:50] <holycow> 3d animated wallpaper?
[05:50] <kazuma_> there's a guy
[05:50] <holycow> no no it doesn't
[05:50] <kazuma_> that has animated 3D
[05:50] <Biovore> kazuma_: technicaly you can.. but its a program that runs in the background..
[05:50] <kazuma_> wallpaper
[05:50] <holycow> thats definately not a 3D ANIMATED WALLPAPER
[05:50] <kazuma_> yeah?
[05:50] <kazuma_> how do i do that?
[05:50] <holycow> its one of two things
[05:50] <kazuma_> chek
[05:50] <kazuma_> http://youtube.com/watch?v=kYgV2GlsufI
[05:50] <holycow> its either beryl
[05:50] <Biovore> you need the program that does that..
[05:50] <kazuma_> check that link
[05:50] <holycow> or its a movie playing on the desktop under e14
[05:50] <kazuma_> and you'll see
[05:50] <kazuma_> no dudde please check :P
[05:51] <holycow> oh for fucks sake
[05:51] <Biovore> ok I see.. he running glmatrix in the background..
[05:51] <holycow> goddamnit thats beryl
[05:51] <holycow> like i told you
[05:51] <kazuma_> but
[05:51] <Biovore> not a wallpaper.. its a screensaver on the desktop..
[05:51] <holycow> please try and read when nice folks actually try to answer you
[05:51] <kazuma_> how do i make that dude
[05:51] <kazuma_> sorry holycow
[05:51] <kazuma_> thanks for the help
[05:51] <holycow> thats just a plugin for beryl that plays the screensaver in the background
[05:52] <kazuma_> yeah?
[05:52] <Biovore> install gkmatrix screensaver
[05:52] <Biovore> (glmatrix)
[05:52] <holycow> thats just the gl matrix screen saver
[05:52] <kazuma_> =o
[05:52] <Biovore> yup
[05:52] <kazuma_> in konsole right?
[05:52] <holycow> install beryl, configure it, run th eplugin and like biovore said make sure you have that screen saver installed
[05:52] <Biovore> well that will pop it open in  a window
[05:52] <Biovore> if glmatrix is installed
[05:52] <holycow> but i'm warning you, beryl is not supported well under kubuntu
[05:52] <kazuma_> =o is ee
[05:52] <kazuma_> i have beryl
[05:52] <Biovore> its a hacked and pray it works thing..
[05:53] <holycow> lol exactly
[05:53] <kazuma_> and i have the desktop
[05:53] <kazuma_> but i just want
[05:53] <kazuma_> the screensaver
[05:53] <kazuma_> how do i install that matrix theme?
[05:53] <holycow> well we gave you the steps
[05:53] <holycow> google the rest
[05:53] <holycow> its easy to find information
[05:53] <kazuma_> well thanks
[05:53] <kazuma_> im really new here
[05:54] <holycow> it's okay, i'm easily exciteable
[05:54] <Biovore> lol
[05:54] <holycow> which is a good and bad thing
[05:54] <Biovore> Moo
[05:54] <klobster> OOC, what is the most resource intensive screensaver you can install?
[05:54] <Biovore> there are a couple..
[05:54] <holycow> probably but on beryl it should all be rendered on the vid card
[05:54] <holycow> so you shouldn't notice it at all
[05:55] <holycow> if you started encoding dvd's then you would see a hit
[05:56] <klobster> holycow: read errors on a recently written file.  I'm nervous now.
[05:56] <holycow> klobster: backup everything immediately
[05:56] <holycow> you really only need /home
[05:57] <klobster> holycow: I have never seen the "encoding dvd's" screensaver
[05:57] <Scorpaen> holycow: somewhere along the way build-essential got uninstalled. i dunno how. but i just booted XP
[05:57] <Scorpaen> thanks holycow
[05:57] <holycow> klobster: no i meant if you started to encode at the same time as running this
[05:57] <holycow> example workload
[05:57] <Scorpaen> now, if that pesky shared folder works, i'm in business
[05:57] <holycow> Scorpaen: thank you for listening to those that try to help
[05:57] <holycow> it makes a big dif :)
[05:57] <Scorpaen> i start school on the 22nd for my BS in IT
[05:57] <klobster> holycow: I am fully backed up, but this is a fairly new drive, oh and Biovore, it isn't sata, it's pata, as my sata crashed hard and i had to get a new one.
[05:57] <Scorpaen> they make me use windows xp
[05:58] <holycow> klobster: sweetness, yeah new hds are designed to fail like that
[05:58] <holycow> i run through hds regularly, brand new ones too
[05:59] <klobster> I have an old drive, 6 GB, still going strong, but these new ones...
[06:00] <klobster> holycow: perpendicular access better be a dream come true
[06:00] <holycow> klobster: oh one of those?
[06:00] <holycow> haha
[06:00] <holycow> neato
[06:00] <holycow> 1 terrabyte one?
[06:00] <Scorpaen> holycow: OMG. my shared folder works!
[06:01] <Scorpaen> holycow: you da man
[06:01] <Scorpaen> :D
[06:01] <holycow> Scorpaen: you are welcome
[06:01] <Scorpaen> holycow: for your info, i used the vmware-any-any-113 update
[06:01] <holycow> good luck in your studies dude, just make sure you are always having fun
[06:01] <Scorpaen> it's a patch for new kernels
[06:01] <holycow> Scorpaen: aha oh i forgot that right
[06:01] <holycow> right right, totally forgot
[06:01] <holycow> *nod*
[06:01] <Scorpaen> i'm running 2.6.22 latest on Gutsy. generic
[06:02] <Scorpaen> i tried rolling my own on gutsy, didn't wokr
[06:02] <Scorpaen> lol
[06:02] <Scorpaen> this is not gentoo
[06:02] <Scorpaen> i keep telling myself
[06:02] <holycow> Scorpaen: i run only dapper lts, but i run i.t. so i need predictability
[06:02] <Scorpaen> gentoo got me hooked on bleeding edge
[06:02] <Scorpaen> heh
[06:02] <Scorpaen> but i got tired of waiting on KDE to compile
[06:02] <holycow> gentoo is cool, but yeah thats exactly it
[06:03] <holycow> i'm waiting to see what barcelona turns out to be like
[06:03] <Scorpaen> vmware 6 is impressive
[06:03] <Biovore> yup..
 I guess I could always use rsync, but if there is a specialized tool for this purpose I might as well use it.
[06:17] <holycow> p-f: no, rsync is pretty much it
[06:17] <robotgeek> p-f: unison is also good
[06:17] <holycow> make sure you have a nicely secured ssh box online and voila
[06:18] <p-f> holycow, robotgeek: alright, thanks
[06:18] <holycow> oh wait
[06:18] <holycow> i haven't looked into unison
[06:18] <holycow> i think he might be onto something
[06:18] <p-f> oh sweet, it's crossplatform
[06:19] <p-f> it seems to be what I was looking for, thanks!
[06:19] <robotgeek> holycow: please join us in #kubuntu-offtopic ")
[06:19] <robotgeek> p-f: glad to help, it worked well for me
[06:20] <NickPresta> !newline | holycow
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about newline - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:21] <NickPresta> !enter | holycow
[06:21] <ubotu> holycow: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:21] <robotgeek> damn, that was late :)
[06:21] <MinusSeven> I'm thinking of trying Kubuntu, I've used fedora before. What's the support like with nvidia?
[06:22] <NickPresta> !nvidia | MinusSeven
[06:22] <ubotu> MinusSeven: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:22] <robotgeek> MinusSeven: pretty good, though right now you will have to follow instructions ^^
[06:22] <NickPresta> MinusSeven, you tell us :)
[06:23] <robotgeek> from next release, it will be automagic
[06:23] <MinusSeven> Ok
[06:27] <wckdkl0wn> http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb   for the newest wine what repository should i add?
[06:30] <klobster> BTW: I figured out how use either original or broodwar nocd's on SC
[06:30] <klobster> oops, wrong channel4
[06:36] <Crell> Is there any reason to leave ISA compiled into a kernel on a modern system?  The "vesa" video driver is a different thing from "Vesa Local Bus" under ISA, isn't it?
[06:41] <Crell> Playing with the beta?
[06:42] <klobster> no, cutting edge is about as far as I go.
[06:44] <elite101> i got a problem Girl on Cam no dekstop recording tool got any ideas?
[06:44] <elite101> lol jk
[06:44] <elite101> but for real any desktop recording tools?
[06:44] <genii> Any way to get rid of annoying spdp server not running notification?
[06:45] <NickPresta> genii, start the server? ;)
[06:45] <genii> NickPresta: The spdp server has been superceded
[06:45] <genii> NickPresta: But kde still whines about it
[06:54] <coteyr> anyone around fimilura with postfix
[06:54] <coteyr> and procmail
[06:54] <coteyr> I have spamass marking emails as spam and I want procmail to move them to the spam folder. I can't seem to get  it setup though
[06:55] <robotgeek> coteyr: uggh, i messed with it once. soupofnuts.com has a tutorial, i think
[06:56] <arun_> hello
[06:56] <coteyr> robotgeek bad link?
[06:56] <robotgeek> coteyr: http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/postfix_tutorial.html sorry
[06:57] <coteyr> ahh
[06:57] <coteyr> thanks
[06:57] <elite101> anyone know where i can get a program to txt ppl from there cellphones on my computer?
[06:57] <elite101> o_0
[06:58] <elite101> anyone i heard of a program that can do this too it was online based
[06:58] <Tabmow> elite101: a program? you mean when you have your cellphone connected also?
[06:58] <elite101> no
[06:58] <elite101> like i can type in the # and then the txt
[06:58] <elite101> and hit send
[06:58] <elite101> so my computer imitates a cell
[06:58] <jcs7778> I just installed kubuntu onto a system which has network drivers i needed to install manually by compiling them and modprobeing them. But they don't seem to stay loaded ive had to open up a terminal and re modprobe them each time i reboot, this is starting to get annoying, ive had similar situations on other systems and normally i just need to modprobe them once.
[06:59] <Tabmow> umm, I haven't looked into it but I am pretty sure such program doesn't exist
[06:59] <elite101> yeah
[06:59] <elite101> i had one for my psp it was in a flashportal of winxp
[07:00] <coteyr> elite101: they exist, look for sms gateqay or sms server
[07:00] <coteyr> beyond that your on your own
[07:01] <coteyr> gateway*
[07:01] <elite101> yeah
[07:01] <elite101> i found a couple websites
[07:01] <evjunior09> Question. If i wanna buy a webcam, how do i get it set up on linux? I just want it for stickam.com
[07:01] <underdog5004> jcs7778, you can have that command (modprobe module_name) when the computer first boots, everytime...
[07:01] <underdog5004> !rc
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:02] <underdog5004> jcs7778, you can probably put it in a script and add it to ~/.kde/Autostart
[07:02] <coteyr> robotgeek; good tutorial on postfix + fetchmail, i guess what I really need is help with procmail. got any links for that (the ones I have found on google I just can't make sense of)
[07:03] <elite101> http://www.somaliaonline.com/sms/index3.php?gclid=CMKv2t-f-Y0CFQ1dPgodxiVJLw
[07:03] <elite101> is that real?
[07:03] <robotgeek> coteyr: sorry, i dont remember.
[07:03] <elite101> it looks fake like they can get ur msg's
[07:03] <coteyr> thanks anyway
[07:04] <evjunior09> If i wanna buy a webcam, how do i get it set up on linux? I just want it for stickam.com
[07:04] <evjunior09> Like, i know Linux isnt supported on the box of any webcams
[07:04] <coteyr> evjunior09: you plug it in and pray
[07:05] <coteyr> or you could google it first
[07:05] <evjunior09> Are you serious. thats all i can do?
[07:05] <evjunior09> well i found website, but its confusing
[07:05] <evjunior09> Do you wanna check it out?
[07:05] <evjunior09> http://www.club.cc.cmu.edu/~mdille3/doc/linux_cameras/
[07:06] <speaker219> Did you know that linux is not not cool!?!?!!?!??!!?!??!!?
[07:06] <flaccid> !webcam > evjunior09
[07:06] <klobster> not not cool?
[07:06] <speaker219> yes!!!
[07:06] <coteyr> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/
[07:06] <speaker219> !webcam
[07:06] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:07] <speaker219> !webcam > speaker219
[07:07] <surgy> #crystalspace
[07:07] <surgy> sorry :)
[07:07] <robotgeek> evjunior09: i know for sure that the A4 Tech, A 985 works with Kubuntu :)
[07:08] <evjunior09> robotgeek: whats the maker?
[07:08] <robotgeek> evjunior09: a4 tech
[07:08] <evjunior09> oh.
[07:08] <evjunior09> where did you buy it at?
[07:08] <klobster> my phillips pixel plus works (it;s a cmos ; 0)
[07:08] <arun_> does anyone here use the luxi sans font family
[07:09] <flaccid> is there even 1 webcam maker that provides a *nix driver?
[07:09] <coteyr> there are webcams that work
[07:09] <coteyr> ibm cams
[07:09] <flaccid> does ibm provide the driver?
[07:10] <coteyr> um my finepix work (no they don't)
[07:10] <coteyr> but the finpix is digi so if you just want the webcam then...
[07:10] <flaccid> yeah im talking about where the vendor writes and provides the driver..
[07:10] <flaccid> ie. support for linux
[07:11] <flaccid> that is by the vendor
[07:11] <coteyr> does any hardware provide that except nvidia/ati?
[07:11] <flaccid> yep
[07:11] <coteyr> who?
[07:11] <coteyr> dont answer
[07:11] <coteyr> i will lok
[07:11] <coteyr> look
[07:11] <flaccid> various makers of peripherals eg. samsung
[07:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> intel, for one
[07:12] <coteyr> hmm
[07:12] <robotgeek> evjunior09: newegg
[07:14] <greenkobold> in using bootcdwrite to make an image from a running ubuntu install, the final disk is a live cd or not?
[07:14] <evjunior09> So if i was just to go out and buy a "Logitech" webcam, if i plug it in, will Kubuntu Fiesty 7.04 reconize it?
[07:14] <Daisuke_Laptop> doubtful
[07:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> that was to greenkobold, not evjunior09
[07:15] <Wiggles> hi
[07:15] <TheCreationist> Does anyone know how I can convert the audio from .mpg video files into mp3?
[07:15] <evjunior09> Daisuke_Laptop: Yeah i figured that, since it was sent about the same time i sent it,
[07:16] <Wiggles> i installed the kde4 beta 1, but i can't figure out how to use it
[07:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> TheCreationist: mencoder.
[07:16] <robotgeek> evjunior09: no, dont get logitech!
[07:16] <arunkale> Daisuke_Laptop: how does it work? does it work with DAT (video cd) files as well?
[07:16] <evjunior09> Robotgeek: well i need one that is Nice, and...cheap. haha. and i can get it at a Target/Wal-mart/Best buy.
[07:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> since they're just mpeg-1 files, it should be exactly the same
[07:17] <greenkobold> I got this anwser at #Debian
[07:17] <greenkobold> green: if you were on debian, it would.  no clue about ubuntu. (about bootcdwrite making a livecd or not)
[07:17] <TheCreationist> Daisuke_Laptop: What command do I use?
[07:17] <Jack3> any you guys worked at circuit city ever?
[07:18] <Wiggles> can anyone help?
[07:19] <robotgeek> evjunior09: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826123010
[07:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> TheCreationist: dunno, you just asked what could do it :)
[07:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> i hate saying this, but the man page is pretty helpful
[07:20] <TheCreationist> Daisuke_Laptop: You have any idea how long mencoder's man page is?? lol
[07:21] <greenkobold> if bootcdwrite makes a live cd in debian, will it make it also in ubuntu?
[07:21] <TheCreationist> Daisuke_Laptop: I've been trying to find info on a simple extraction...
[07:21] <underdog5004> jcs7778, just so you know, you can also put the command in rc.local
[07:21] <TheCreationist> Daisuke_Laptop: 5,918 lines
[07:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> yes, but there are a lot of blank lines, a lot of info lines.  welcome to linux, you do have to read.
[07:22] <Daisuke_Laptop> :)
[07:23] <jcs7778> i actually found a good solution i put the command into /etc/modules, or something, it was a config file and it seems to work fine
[07:23] <underdog5004> jcs7778, col
[07:23] <underdog5004> erm, cool
[07:24] <evjunior09> robotgeek: Man thats a nice one. but i dont have a credit card, i need one to buy at a store. (i.e. Best Buy, Walmart, Target)
[07:24] <kazuma_> hi all
[07:24] <kazuma_> i have a problem with beryl xD
[07:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> #ubuntu-effects
[07:25] <kazuma_> when i spin the cube i can only see one face the others are invisible or something like that
[07:25] <kazuma_> why
[07:25] <robotgeek> evjunior09: well, try anything but a new logitech is my suggestion. see if you can find anything on the list from the support hardware
[07:25] <NickPresta> kazuma_, what do you mean the other sides are invisible?
[07:26] <kazuma_> well, i'm working in the desktop and when i wanna turn the other is in blank, and i can't do anything
[07:26] <kazuma_> i just see the backside of the other desktop
[07:26] <kazuma_> it's a cube with one window xD
[07:26] <NickPresta> kazuma_, play around with the Desktop Cube configuration options. Perhaps you only have 1 desktop or there are transparency issues?
[07:26] <kazuma_> how do i put another desktops
[07:26] <evjunior09> robotgeek: i was thinkin this. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5750839 even tho it dosent say Linux
[07:26] <kazuma_> cuz' i tried to put the others
[07:26] <kazuma_> and nothing happened dude
[07:27] <robotgeek> evjunior09: check the wiki
[07:27] <robotgeek> !webcam > evjunior09
[07:28] <Daisuke_Laptop> http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5392451
[07:28] <evjunior09> robotgeek: it dosent say anything about my webcam
[07:28] <robotgeek> evjunior09: well, that might be cause it does not work :)
[07:29] <evjunior09> Daisuke_Laptop: will that work?
[07:30] <kazuma_> help me please
[07:31] <flaccid> !ask
[07:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:31] <surgy> kazuma state your question
[07:31] <surgy> clearly
[07:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> evjunior09: in theory
[07:34] <evjunior09> w00t.
[07:35] <flaccid> !help
[07:35] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:35] <klobster> sure, !help, but:
[07:35] <klobster> !kazuma
[07:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kazuma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <speaker219> Kay Ooh Boon too
[07:40] <ardchoille> I thought it was  koo-BOON-too
[07:40] <underdog5004> I pronounce it koo-BOON-too too
[07:42] <flaccid> hackbuntu
[07:42] <flaccid> is the server edition :p[
[07:42] <klobster> kuh-bun-tuh
[07:44] <kazuma_> yuhuu
[07:44] <kazuma_> beryl restoreeed xD
[07:45] <flaccid> i get a stupid window manager already in use thing with beryl on kubuntu - as do many people and no real solution
[07:49] <kazuma_> there is an easy way to fix beryl, erase the files hahaha xD
[07:49] <kazuma_> then you can start over xD
[07:50] <whizadree> hey is this server slow today
[07:50] <whizadree> it keeps login me on then pauses then d/cs timeouts
[07:50] <whizadree> lag is hmm lonnng
[07:51] <ardchoille> !menu
[07:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about menu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:51] <ardchoille> What's the name of that alternate menu for kde?
[07:52] <ardchoille> kbfx.. that's it
[07:53] <NickPresta> ardchoille, kbfx or kickoff
[07:53] <NickPresta> ardchoille, I hate kbfx. Kickoff is much nicer
[07:53] <ardchoille> NickPresta: Yeah, found kbfx
[07:53] <ardchoille> Never heard of kickoff
[07:54] <ardchoille> NickPresta: URL? It isn't in the repos
[07:54] <ardchoille> !kickoff
[07:54] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[07:54] <ardchoille> NickPresta: How did you install kickoff?
[07:55] <NickPresta> ardchoille, the official package name is `kicker-kickoff` and I got it from: deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb feisty 3v1n0 AFAIK
[07:56] <NickPresta> ardchoille, http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/dists/feisty/3v1n0/
[07:58] <ardchoille> NickPresta: Thanks :)
[07:59] <NickPresta> ardchoille, no problem. I didn't like the default kmenu.png icon so I replaced it with something much nicer. Don't let the default turn you off :)
[08:03] <ardchoille> NickPresta: That's easy to replace.
[08:03] <ardchoille> This is much nicer than the default kde menu.. and nicer than kbfx
[08:09] <dvm>   I am working on a GTK project where i have the requirement to change the SCIM language whenever user make an action(click a button) and that get effected when user types  in a text box. What is the possible way to do this?
[08:12] <genii> Bah applied gutsy updates and froze the box totallyhard
[08:29] <alfatau> hello: i would want to set a standby timer (or be able to choose when to standby) on 2 of the 4 hard disks installed on my server. do you know how to?
[08:34] <Myelin> hello
[08:34] <flaccid> hi
[08:34] <Myelin> I think i found a bug in the OS. Start KPPP and it gives a error for resolv.conf, which is there in /etc but spelt wrongly.
[08:35] <Myelin> Can you confirm this?
[08:39] <elite101> good nite its like 2:40am !!!!!!!
[08:39] <elite101> i gotta stop staying up*
[08:39] <alfatau> hello, i want to activate standby on some hard disks on my machine. howto? thanks
[08:40] <flaccid> alfatau: don't repeat
[08:40] <Myelin> Oh!sorry. How do i creat a resolv.conf file?
[08:42] <Cannoli> hey guys
[08:42] <Cannoli> k so im dling ntfs resize since gparted and qtparted dont work
[08:42] <Cannoli> and niether does the partitioner in the install
[08:42] <Cannoli> but its a .rpm file
[08:42] <Cannoli> wht do i do with that?
[08:44] <NickPresta> Cannoli, where did you download it from? RPM packages aren't native and should be avoided.
[08:44] <Cannoli> uh oh
[08:44] <Cannoli> lol
[08:44] <Cannoli> sourceforge
[08:44] <Cannoli> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13956&package_id=14232
[08:44] <NickPresta> Cannoli, have you tried `ntfsresize`?
[08:45] <Cannoli> and what do u mean by not native?
[08:45] <Cannoli> thats wht im dling
[08:45] <NickPresta> Cannoli, using your package manager, download "ntfsprogs", which includes "ntfsresize".
[08:45] <Cannoli> how do i do that?
[08:45] <Cannoli> srry ive just started with kubuntu
[08:46] <NickPresta> !adept | Cannoli
[08:46] <ubotu> Cannoli: adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[08:47] <NickPresta> Cannoli, if you just came from Windows, you may be used to having to go around and find applications, download them and install them. That is rarely the case in Kubuntu. You use your package manager to do the work for you.
[08:48] <Cannoli> wow
[08:48] <Cannoli> nice
[08:48] <Cannoli> :)
[08:48] <Cannoli> is that also the case when it comes to things like games
[08:48] <Cannoli> ?
[08:49] <NickPresta> Cannoli, if you click on your kmenu (the "start menu") and find "Add/Remove Programs", you should be greated witha huge categorized list of things you can download right now with a few clicks.
[08:50] <Cannoli> :S it says ntfsprogs is already installed :S
[08:50] <Cannoli> thts crazy :)
[08:52] <Cannoli> i havent installed it
[08:52] <Cannoli> but it says its installed
[08:52] <Cannoli> wht do i do to run it :S
[08:52] <NickPresta> Cannoli, there are a vast amount of applications installed by default.
[08:52] <NickPresta> Cannoli, you can open up a Konsole and type in "ntfsresize" at the prompt
[08:52] <Cannoli> wht promt?
[08:53] <Cannoli> alt+f2?
[08:53] <NickPresta> Cannoli, open up Konsole. The prompt is what you see (The flashing "box" that signifies your cursor).
[08:53] <Cannoli> ah ic
[08:54] <Cannoli> ok
[08:54] <Cannoli> so where do i find my device name :S
[08:54] <whizadree> is there been some server probs tonight?
[08:54] <NickPresta> Cannoli, I would not attempt this without having a backup of my NTFS partition. Once you are ready to begin the resize, you can do something like this (To resize the partition to 10GB): 'sudo ntfsresize -s 10G /dev/sda5'
[08:55] <Cannoli> ah ic
[08:55] <NickPresta> Cannoli, to find your device name, do this in the Konsole: sudo fdisk -l
[08:55] <Assid> hrmm im thinkining of playing with gmailfs next
[08:55] <NickPresta> Cannoli, you should see the device name (/dev/SOMETHING) for example, and it should be HPFS/NTFS under the System heading
[08:56] <Cannoli> yep found it :)
[08:56] <NickPresta> Cannoli, I would suggest you read the man page for ntfsresize
[08:56] <NickPresta> Cannoli, to do that: `man ntfsresize`
[08:57] <NickPresta> Cannoli, out of curiosity, what doesn't work in QT/GParted?
[08:58] <Cannoli> lol the ntfs resizing
[08:58] <Cannoli> :P
[08:58] <NickPresta> Do you get an error or anything?
[08:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: Did you try the GPartEd Live CD? That's what I always used for partitioning (before I became familiar with fdisk/cfdisk)
[08:58] <NickPresta> AFAIK, QT/GParted are just frontends to (c)fdisk and the like?
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> NickPresta: I think so too...
[08:59] <Cannoli> well in qtparted there was no detailes menu
[08:59] <Cannoli> so not in tht
[08:59] <Cannoli> but in gparted
[08:59] <Cannoli> i got an error
[08:59] <NickPresta> MilhousePunkRock, they're actually frontends to `parted`. heh
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: I would highyl suggest the live CD.. Make sure you have defragged your NTFS drive before you try to shrink it though.
[09:00] <Cannoli> i did defrag
[09:00] <Cannoli> twice
[09:00] <Cannoli> :)
[09:00] <Cannoli> and i cant get the live cd
[09:00] <MilhousePunkRock> NickPresta: But doesn't parted base on fdisk?
[09:00] <Cannoli> either way i dont have anything important on tht drive anymore
[09:00] <Cannoli> i moved everything on to a friends drve
[09:01] <Cannoli> so im good with ntfsresize :)
[09:01] <Cannoli> and it seems to be doing its job which is good
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: Can you be a little more descriptive about the error Gparted gave you?
[09:02] <Cannoli> MilhousePunkRock: sorry i cant, i dont have the log file anymore.
[09:02] <Cannoli> it did have something to do with the resize
[09:02] <Cannoli> thats i all i remember
[09:02] <Cannoli> srry
[09:02] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: Well, nevermind, if ntfsresize works...
[09:02] <Cannoli> yep
[09:02] <Cannoli> its at 2.7 on relocating data
[09:02] <Cannoli> :)
[09:03] <Cannoli> i got my system of a down collection blasting so i have all the time in the world
[09:03] <Cannoli> damn
[09:04] <Cannoli> error
[09:04] <Cannoli> !
[09:04] <Cannoli> !pastebin
[09:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:05] <Cannoli> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33896/
[09:05] <Cannoli> :(
[09:05] <Cannoli> the same kind i got on gparted
[09:05] <Cannoli> :(
[09:06] <NickPresta> Cannoli, how large is the HDD?
[09:06] <Cannoli> 250
[09:06] <Cannoli> gb
[09:07] <Assid> hrmm
[09:07] <NickPresta> Cannoli, http://forum.linux-ntfs.org/viewtopic.php?p=972&sid=6c59b2fee268172ff28e2e051c231e90#972
[09:07] <Cannoli> yes
[09:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: That looks like it even tells you what to do: Please try to free less space
[09:08] <Cannoli> yes but how much?
[09:08] <Assid> Cannoli: do oyu have windows running on that mchine? are you planning on retaining it?
[09:08] <Cannoli> i have windows
[09:09] <Cannoli> but its on another drive
[09:09] <Assid> so why are you keeping this as ntfs?
[09:09] <Cannoli> so i can save my other files on it :S
[09:09] <Assid> make it fat32 instead.. less headaches.. or ext3
[09:09] <Cannoli> like my moviez and stuff
[09:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: either you make it fat32 or ext2/3 and use the windows ext drivers
[09:10] <Assid> i still dont trust the nfs-3g / write module
[09:10] <Assid> you never know how ntfs may react
[09:10] <Cannoli> why cant i keep ntfs :S
[09:10] <Assid> you can
[09:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Cannoli: Why would you?
[09:10] <Cannoli> whts wrong with ntfs?
[09:10] <NickPresta> Assid, I have had no trouble with NTFS. I use it fairly frequently using ntfs-3g. The track record is pretty good too (http://www.ntfs-3g.org/quality.html)
[09:11] <kraut> moin
[09:11] <Assid> NickPresta: not saying its bad.. i just would rather prefer a more "stabler"
[09:11] <Assid> system
[09:11] <NickPresta> Assid, of course. Using ext3 or something similar is ideal but I would still rather use NTFS over FAT32
[09:11] <Assid> hrmm k
[09:12] <Assid> anyone here using it?
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: Tell me more...
[09:12] <Assid> MilhousePunkRock: ?
[09:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: gmailfs... I googled it now though, heard about it, but haven't used it... I only have about 20 kB upstream anyway...
[09:13] <Cannoli> damn
[09:14] <Cannoli> it needs a diskcheck
[09:14] <Assid> MilhousePunkRock: yeah.. so do i.. but you never know when you need something
[09:14] <Cannoli> before i can do it agian
[09:14] <Cannoli> -_-
[09:14] <Assid> so would make sense mapping it around
[09:14] <Assid> also you can alternately use it insted of mediashare etc.. to share between your friends
[09:14] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: OTOH, I have a NAS device in the process of being set up, NFS is already working...
[09:15] <Assid> hrmm k
[09:15] <MilhousePunkRock> still, that is something I could put on my list... I have 4 gmail accounts, so that would make 10+ GB web space...
[09:18] <kjiij> hi i've got a proxim wireless pcmcia card on my laptop under kubuntu
[09:19] <kjiij> lspcmcia shows thecard as yenta_cardbus
[09:19] <kjiij> whatmodules shd i install for it to work? ifconfig doesn't show the new wireless card
[09:21] <MilhousePunkRock> kjiij: What chipset does it have?
[09:22] <kjiij> MilhousePunkRock: how do u find out/ its a ORiNOCO802.11b pc card
[09:23] <MilhousePunkRock> kjiij: Did you google a bit already? I think Orinoco is a chipset, I might be wrong with that though.
[09:24] <kjiij> MilhousePunkRock: yeah i tried to google proxim wireless.. if the modules are installed, i should be able to see my eth1 or wlan0 in ifconfig right?
[09:24] <kjiij> or do i have to bind them
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> kjiij: Honestly, I don't know, I use an Atheros card myself, there was not much to do manually...
[09:25] <MilhousePunkRock> kjiij: There is extensive wireless documentation on the wiki though...
[09:28] <kjiij> i still have no idea what i should do
[09:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Kjiij was a bit unpatient, I just googled for him and found out that it's an atheros chipset...
[09:38] <Riddell> anyone able to test amarok 1.4.7 in gutsy and/or fiesty-backports?
[09:39] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: I could try...
[09:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: If you guide me a little that is, of course...
[09:40] <Tabmows> anyone installed the latest ati drivers and receive an error when running it?
[09:40] <Tabmows> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution
[09:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: On a side note, I think the tribe CD iso images need a better naming scheme... Always gutsy-i386-desktop is confusing for all tribes and all flavors...
[09:43] <Riddell> MilhousePunkRock: we know
[09:45] <MilhousePunkRock> I have downloaded quite a few of them, Kubuntu and Xubuntu, needed to open them to set what flavor it was and compare the date with the news to find out which tribe... The final isos have comprehensive names though...
[09:45] <antandou> je cherche accelerateur graphique
[09:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: So how would I test Amarok 1.4.7
[09:45] <MilhousePunkRock> !fr > antandou
[09:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: Found a .deb on launchpad, is that the way to go?
[09:49] <Assid> hrmm
[09:49] <Assid> i cant access gmailfs from kjonqueoror?
[09:49] <Riddell> MilhousePunkRock: should be in the archives
[09:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Riddell: Backports or something? apt-get install amarok says I have the newest version, according to apt-cache show it's 1.4.6 though
[09:51] <dotz> hi i need to find out how to get my pcmcia proxim wireless card to work on my laptop.. its detected in lspcmcia
[09:52] <dotz> but when i ifconfig it doesn't sure anything new even after /etc/init.d/network restart
[09:52] <dotz> are there any drivers i need to install?
[09:52] <MilhousePunkRock> dotz: Are you kjiij?
[09:52] <dotz> MilhousePunkRock: yeah.. i using another laptop to come in
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> dotz: Alright, I found something for you on the wiki... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsProxim
[09:53] <dotz> do i need to use wpa_supplicant or something?
[09:53] <MilhousePunkRock> dotz: Not to make the card working in the first place
[09:54] <dotz> oh yeah i saw that page too.
[09:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Which card is it?
[09:55] <dotz> ok behind the card it says IEEE 802.11b PC-card model 8420-WD proxim
[09:55] <dotz> infront it says orinoco 802.11b pc card gold
[09:55] <dotz> i think its the 2nd one
[09:56] <dotz> 8470 but mine is 8420
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> dotz: My guess is that you might need the linux-restricted-modules
[09:57] <jobbe_> hey, I just installed kubuntu-desktop to have a look at kde again and I had to notice that kmenu, kcontrol etc are simply empty. that means there are no panels in kcontrol, there is nothing to be selected from kmenu except the logout/user buttons and so on. Any ideas on what might be wrong?
[09:57] <buz> is the openoffice bug on tribe4 fixed? i just got a new notebook that needs xorg drivers only in gutsy (i could compile them for feisty but i'm lazy)
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> buz: AFAIK no. But you can install openoffice.org-gnome as a workaround
[09:58] <buz> the release notes say other things suffer from the same bug?
[09:59] <dotz> MilhousePunkRock: thanks for your help.. i plugged in another card Accton and it just work out of the box
[09:59] <dotz> MilhousePunkRock: my best bet is that my proxim card is spoiled.. the led light wasn't even on when i plug in
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> dotz: Yeah, might be it's just broken...
[10:03] <linux_user400354> what in the world???? im using cups for printing. its printing in red ink instead of black from my open office writer document. i tried changing the printing settings to greyscale black cartridge and it still does the same thing
[10:36] <evri2> why there is amarok 1.4.7 in bacport repositories? is it beta?
[10:48] <chx> I try installing a kate plugin from source. /usr/lib/kde3/katescriptdebuggerplugin. so, la is in place. so is /usr/share/services/katescriptdebugger.desktop and finally /usr/share/apps/kate/plugins/katescriptdebugger/ui.rc
[10:48] <chx> what's missing?
[11:01] <jordi_> alguien sabe como abrir una base de datos access???
[11:02] <jordi_> estoy provando diferentes herramientas pero no funcionan del todo bien...
[11:06] <Aranel> Xorg us
[11:06] <Aranel> Xorg using %36 mem, why ?
[11:06] <Assid> Aranel: how much memory do you have
[11:06] <Aranel> Assid: 512
[11:06] <Assid> 5914 root      15   0 71056  43m 5308 S    6  2.8   1:31.45 Xorg
[11:07] <Assid> i dont see it
[11:07] <Assid> its like 43MB
[11:07] <Assid> check your Xorg.0.log for issues
[11:08] <Aranel> Assid: where can I find it ?
[11:08] <Assid> check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:09] <Aranel> Assid: ok, thanks :)
[11:09] <Assid> pastebin that log
[11:11] <Aranel> http://pastebin.org/618
[11:13] <Aranel> Assid: http://pastebin.org/618
[11:16] <Assid> Aranel: your using gutsy ?!?!?
[11:17] <Aranel> Assid: no. i upgraded only kernel.
[11:18] <Assid> Aranel: i see no reason for it to eat so muc ram
[11:19] <Assid> ry restarting X
[11:19] <Aranel> Assid: it sometimes eat much ram, not always.
[11:19] <Assid> see which appplication triggers it
[11:21] <Aranel> Assid: i think firefox.
[11:25] <trekdanne> firefox is evil :P
[11:33] <trekdanne> hmm does nvidia's proprietary drivers include support for AIGLX? the wikipedia article in question doesn't explain it very well -_-
[11:35] <jussi01> trekdanne: ask in #ubuntu-effects if you dont get an answer here...
[11:35] <trekdanne> ah
[11:36] <trekdanne> hmm i think stdin tried to explain this to me yesterday but he seems to be afk
[11:36] <jussi01> trekdanne: i think its a little early for him
[11:37] <dotz> !wmv
[11:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:42] <popow> Help time of my ubuntu server is not correct. I have set it to local time by modifying /etc/defaults/rcS "utc=no" ihave install ntp and ntp simple added 1 pool to /etc/ntp.conf, then rebooted... Still my time is totally of when i type date at the prompt???
[11:43] <Jjohn> Jjohn, I am just idling do you mind me using your nick??
[11:46] <trekdanne> popow: hmm ntp is somewhat strange.. it can take a while before it works -_-
[11:49] <jaxon_> does anyone know where do i go to change the system font n also getting rid of sounds every time i do something..thx
[11:50] <trekdanne> jaxon_: k menu -> system settings -> apperance -> fonts
[11:51] <trekdanne> jaxon_: and k menu -> system settings -> notification
[11:51] <trekdanne> *notifications
[11:54] <jaxon_> trekdanne...thx...i have found 'system' n 'setting' but cant seem to see *notification...may be i have gone blind...but cheers though
[11:54] <jaxon_> ah..found it..nice one
[11:55] <slawek> how to install update-manager 0.45.2
[12:00] <trekdanne> !find emacs
[12:00] <ubotu> Found: emacs, emacs-el, emacs-goodies-el, emacs-nox, emacs21 (and 47 others)
[12:00] <trekdanne> !find emacs22
[12:00] <ubotu> Package/file emacs22 does not exist in feisty
[12:00] <trekdanne> isn't emacs22 is the repos?
[12:14] <jeffm> hi all, i want to network my kubuntu 7.04 computer with my ubuntu 6.06 server (which has no GUI) what networking software should I use? NFS or SAMBA? (yes I've tried ftp and scp, but it didn't work!)
[12:15] <MilhousePunkRock> jeffm: NFS is for native Linux <-> Linux sharing, SMB is for Windows machines involved...
[12:16] <jeffm> yeah thought so, but some asshats told me otherwise. hehe, thanks :)
[12:18] <trekdanne> hmm sftp over ssh is my suggestion
[12:19] <trekdanne> so you can use your sever remotely too, can be quite handy
[12:20] <dylan__> yay, just got lunix, not too shabby
[12:20] <trekdanne> neither NFS nor SMB should be use over a public network
[12:20] <Assid> nfs dies for me
[12:20] <MilhousePunkRock> trekdanne: I use ssh for administration and nfs for file stuff...
[12:20] <thoreauputic> sshfs for secure file access over the Net
[12:20] <MilhousePunkRock> trekdanne: I assumed that jeffm was referring to a private network
[12:21] <trekdanne> hmm
[12:21] <jeffm> yep, i'm refering to a private network. i'm hosting a site from home :O
[12:21] <Assid> nfs dies over public network
[12:21] <trekdanne> yea it depends on how much files you're gonna transfer and such
[12:21] <llutz> nfs is easily tunneled through ssh
[12:23] <MilhousePunkRock> trekdanne: Once I have all my music on my server (~20 GB) there will not be more than some backups or files I want to have access to on all clients...
[12:23] <trekdanne> ah i c
[12:23] <Assid> okay is it normal for nfs to just break
[12:23] <Assid> i mean some small discrepency in the network.. and nfs mounts just die
[12:23] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: No. What's the exact problem you have?
[12:24] <trekdanne> what's the current status of AFS btw?
[12:25] <Assid> MilhousePunkRock: its a nfs across datacenters
[12:25] <Assid> just dies after some time
[12:25] <Assid> ping response across ther servers .. 6ms
[12:25] <Assid> kinda ridiculous
[12:25] <trekdanne> Assid: "datacenter" sounds cool? care to tell me more about the setup?
[12:26] <Assid> i got some dedicated servers in a few DC's
[12:26] <Assid> all running debian -etch
[12:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: Well... I am anything but an expert, I have a rather simple setup here and it works fine, setup was pretty easy too...
[12:26] <Assid> well most of them atleast
[12:26] <trekdanne> ah
[12:26] <Assid> so sometimes i move a domain across the servers .. maybe for load balancing or whatevcer reasons.. even backups
[12:27] <Assid> it just dies.. so i gotta stick to the likes of FTP
[12:27] <trekdanne> hmm FTP does have issues with NATs :P
[12:27] <Assid> i mean i get around 10MBytes.. no problem
[12:27] <Assid> trekdanne: dedicated servers dont use nat
[12:27] <Assid> they have public ip directly on them
[12:27] <trekdanne> Assid: ah right
[12:28] <trekdanne> i was thinking about the core protocol rather than your setup :)
[12:28] <jeffm> hey guys, i just learnt something about servers: don't buy $50 computers from highschools! mine screwed up on me :(
[12:28] <Assid> yeah well it doesnt apply here.. since its a direct connection
[12:28] <jeffm> intermittent faults
[12:28] <Assid> heck i even get 10MBytes.. how much more do i need?
[12:28] <Assid> jeffm: those arent servers
[12:29] <Assid> they barely make it as workstations
[12:29] <jeffm> well, it has apache2 on it, so its a server :P
[12:29] <Assid> jeffm: would explain why they screw up on you
[12:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Cheap old rigs make nice servers for personal use...
[12:30] <jeffm> Assid: what do you mean?
[12:30] <Assid> key word being "personal" use
[12:30] <Assid> or soho
[12:30] <Assid> im actually thinking of donating my old AMD 1800xp+
[12:31] <Assid> not really being used
[12:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: I'd take it... That's better then the machine I am on right now
[12:31] <Assid> 1533mhz only
[12:31] <popow> Help time of my ubuntu server is not correct. I have set it to local time by modifying /etc/defaults/rcS "utc=no" ihave install ntp and ntp simple added 1 pool to /etc/ntp.conf, then rebooted... Still my time is totally of when i type date at the prompt???
[12:31] <Assid> better than what you have now ?
[12:31] <Assid> popow:  wtf you doing ?
[12:31] <popow> ?
[12:31] <Assid> tzconfig
[12:32] <Assid> just run that man
[12:32] <popow> I want to put my time right
[12:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: That's more than the 1.13 GHz my laptop has... Worse than the 2.0 Ghz desktop though
[12:32] <Assid> tzconfig -- sets the right time zone
[12:32] <trekdanne> popow: utc=no is evil
[12:32] <Urilock> help
[12:32] <popow> oki
[12:32] <Assid> apt-get install rdate
[12:32] <Urilock> my keyboard has messed up
[12:32] <Assid> rdate will use NTP to keep you updated
[12:32] <popow> then if I put it back then?
[12:32] <Assid> MilhousePunkRock: its a desktop
[12:32] <MilhousePunkRock> trekdanne: Not neccessarily, I think it's even needed on a dualboot system with Windows
[12:32] <popow> I mean the time i see when I run a script is uuh
[12:33] <Assid> my lappy is actually a 1.4ghz
[12:33] <Assid> popow: did you install rdate?
[12:33] <Assid> sudo apt-get install rdate
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> popow: Or ntpdate
[12:33] <popow> nope ntp
[12:33] <trekdanne> does windows still use local time, i thoguht the changed it ...
[12:33] <popow> ntpdate is there
[12:33] <Assid> local time ?
[12:33] <popow> yup
[12:33] <popow> local
[12:34] <popow> but could go back to utc only I want the time be correct
[12:34] <popow> So that when my script in the morning wrong all is fine
[12:34] <MilhousePunkRock> popow: Type "sudo ntpdate yourcountrycode.pool.ntp.org"
[12:34] <Assid> popow: sudo ntpdate time.nist.gov
[12:34] <Assid> or what MilhousePunkRock says
[12:34] <popow> with utc=yes would that be fine?
[12:34] <Assid> i run my own ntp server
[12:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: not a good choice if he is outside US
[12:35] <Assid> MilhousePunkRock:  there isnt a mirror per country
[12:35] <popow> Lemme put back to utc and then see hold on brb
[12:35] <MilhousePunkRock> I don't think the UTC settings makes the difference there...
[12:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: Most countries though
[12:35] <Assid> not for india yet...
[12:35] <MilhousePunkRock> popow: Is the time difference like the difference from your local time to UTC?
[12:36] <popow> I am gmt+1
[12:36] <popow> aka copnehgane
[12:36] <popow> copenhagen ,, Denmark
[12:37] <popow> lemme to a date in a few sec when it back
[12:37] <trekdanne> then it should be around "12:37"
[12:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: I should make my own NTP server on my server too, only I haven't found a decent howto for it yet. I don't want a daemon that syncs the time to some outside server all the time, that could make my ISP angry
[12:37] <ericr> hallo iemand die me hier mee kan helpen kaffeine 0.8.3 en  kaffeine-sc-plugin 0.2.
[12:37] <trekdanne> !de
[12:37] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:37] <MilhousePunkRock> !nl | ericr
[12:37] <ubotu> ericr: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[12:37] <popow> one2superuser@northstar:~$ date
[12:37] <popow> Thu Aug 16 06:37:25 EDT 2007
[12:37] <MilhousePunkRock> trekdanne: That wasn't german...
[12:37] <trekdanne> ah fail again
[12:37] <Assid> MilhousePunkRock: if you want a stratum server.. you should synch with the stratum II's atleast
[12:37] <popow> And my time on my laptop is 12.37
[12:38] <Assid> popow: tzconfig
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: Nothing so critical here that I need the time more exact than let's say one second...
[12:38] <Assid> i told you that earlier
[12:38] <popow> oki
[12:38] <Assid> you need to set your timezone
[12:38] <popow> thx ill man tzconfig
[12:38] <popow> thc
[12:38] <popow> thx
[12:38] <Assid> after you set tzconfig.. use ntpdate
[12:39] <trekdanne> what's a Stratum II?
[12:39] <popow> Assid: cool .. tjx
[12:39] <Assid> MilhousePunkRock: i use it on one of my servers.. then i have mny other servers synch with that
[12:39] <popow> thx
[12:39] <Assid> trekdanne: a level below stratum 1's :P
[12:39] <trekdanne> Assid: hehe
[12:39] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: What I am looking for is probably a cronjob that uses ntpdate once a day, that should be enough. And run the server from that time
[12:40] <Assid> MilhousePunkRock: most ntpservers do that
[12:40] <Assid> like twice a day
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> trekdanne: Stratum is the level of accuracy a timeserver has. Stratum I is an atomic clock, Stratum II gets his time from a Stratum I and so on
[12:40] <trekdanne> ah i c, milhousepunkrock
[12:41] <Assid> if you plan to use a ntp servers.. you normally synch it with stratum 2
[12:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: I used to run openntp (very small footprint) but that kept on syncing the time, thus keeping my internet connection alive
[12:41] <Assid> users such as desktop users normally should use stratum 3
[12:41] <Assid> MilhousePunkRock:  you need your net to die ?
[12:42] <Assid> MilhousePunkRock: then dont run a server.. just synch your time with the servers instead
[12:43] <popow> one2superuser@northstar:~$ date
[12:43] <popow> Thu Aug 16 12:42:40 CEST 2007
[12:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: I dont exactly _need_ my net to disconnect, but I want to. The router is in the bedroom, all the flickering lights are not what I want at night...
[12:43] <popow> Super all cool now
[12:43] <popow> thanks guys
[12:43] <popow> Always nice to have time tick correct lol
[12:43] <popow> :-)
[12:43] <Assid> popow: cron it
[12:44] <MilhousePunkRock> popow: or have it sync with the system clock every shutdown
[12:44] <Assid> MilhousePunkRock:  shutdown ???
[12:44] <Assid> i hope you mean start up
[12:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Assid: No, shutdown...
[12:44] <popow> Assid: Yup will cron it thx
[12:44] <Assid> MilhousePunkRock: why the hell would you need th right time to shut down
[12:45] <Assid> you should have the right time when you start your machine.. not when you shut it down