[03:06] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, was killing the font for Save As dialog
[03:07] <patrickj> for the ubuntu wine package, where does wine get installed ?
[03:07] <kaot> hedonistic: what does iwconfig show?
[03:07] <andi5> paradise: did it look good? last lines began with config.status: creating...?
[03:07] <fdsd> Flannel, can you point me to the ppc iso for that?
[03:07] <HBuzacott> patrickj, /usr/bin/wine
[03:07] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, =/
[03:07] <andi5> paradise: maybe enter "echo $?"
[03:07] <paradise> andi5: let me look
[03:07] <Flannel> fdsd: there is no liveCD server.
[03:07] <paradise> andi5: still going
[03:07] <paradise> andi5: ill let you know what last line is
[03:07] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, fixed it now, I use a 32 bit wraper script to make OOo use the correct libs and paths
[03:07] <HBuzacott> patrickj, the fake C drive is in ~/.wine/fake_c
[03:07] <patrickj> oh okay :P
[03:07] <kaot> hedonistic: also you can set static ip in system -> administration -> network
[03:08] <anosa> thnx for all who gave solutions for me, my creative SB is now workin', i mean i can hear the sound
[03:08] <hedonistic> kaot, it shows stuff under wlan0
[03:08] <fdsd> Flannel, okay ill look into it, thanks
[03:08] <element> how developed and how well supported is AMD64 ubuntu? I'm considering switching to it from windows...
[03:08] <patrickj> I know but im trying to put on the wow wine patch for 0.9.16
[03:08] <kaot> hedonistic: do you have an ESSID?
[03:08] <andi5> hey, why does documentation say you can click an "add" button in system->admin->network? there is NO
[03:08] <apokryphos> element: check the FAQ
[03:08] <hedonistic> kaot, yes
[03:08] <anosa> after i disable my onboard soundcard
[03:08] <Flannel> fdsd: however, there are other liveCDs that already do this.  You might try looking into premade solutions into rolling your own, but heres a link with some info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[03:08] <kaot> hm
[03:08] <element> apokryphos: I'd like some human feedback and experience results with it
[03:08] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, nice. I considered reinstalling everything in 32bit. FireFox is evil, so I am using an unsupported build my friend from MozDev made me
[03:08] <kaot> so you're talking to the AP
[03:08] <paradise> andi5: kast line said: onfigure complete, now type 'make' and pray.
[03:08] <paradise> andi5: type make now?
[03:09] <kaot> you've got an Access Point Mac there and all
[03:09] <clparker> How can I make vino vnc server startup automatically without needing to login?
[03:09] <apokryphos> element: the entry in the FAQ is written by a human, I assure you :). It outlines all the basic pros/cons, please read it :)
[03:09] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, FireFox 64 is unsupported. They won't make them usually.
[03:09] <paradise> andi5: sudo make or make ?
[03:09] <spades> hedonistic edit /etc/network/interfaces and put: iface wlan0 inet static // address <IP_ADDRESS> // netmask <IP_ADDRESS> // gateway <IP_ADDRESS>    replace those with the proper addresses and then restart your networking daemon (sudo invokerc.d networking restart)
[03:09] <andi5> paradise: no, wait 5 minutes and ask each 5 seconds ;-)
[03:09] <paradise> andi5: what?
[03:09] <Adam_G> akay, apokryphos: http://pastebin.ca/76089
[03:09] <apokryphos> element: if you have more questions after that, please feel free to ask.
[03:09] <element> apokryphos: oooook, will do.
[03:09] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, I think I am the only person who like the lack of flash support in 64bit ff :) means I get no more annoying flash stuff on website bwahaha
[03:09] <Adam_G> sda1 is the drive I want to reinstall grub to
[03:09] <paradise> andi5: I typ\ed make
[03:09] <apokryphos> Adam_G: so....... sudo /sbin/grub
[03:10] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, adblock is beautiful =3
[03:10] <apokryphos> Adam_G: root (hd0,0)
[03:10] <Paladine> yeah I have adblock installed
[03:10] <spades> hedonistic backup /etc/network/interfaces so you can revert back to it and get back on irc if it dont work
[03:10] <edavis10> Paladine: I like the lack of flash in PPC also :)
[03:10] <apokryphos> Adam_G: setup (hd0)
[03:10] <Adam_G> okay...
[03:10] <patrickj> any idea where I put the wow_patch?
[03:10] <andi5> paradise: if it works "fakeroot make install"
[03:10] <element> apokryphos: how well supported is dual monitors? easy to setup?
[03:11] <andi5> paradise: well, maybe you need to be root.... so sudo make install
[03:11] <apokryphos> element: not officially supported, but you may well get it set up with xinerama.
[03:11] <paradise> andi5: I typed make
[03:11] <element> apokryphos: hmmm ok
[03:11] <paradise> andi5: and its doing something
[03:11] <apokryphos> element: see /msg ubotu xinerama for more info
[03:11] <paradise> andi5: should I instead have typed sudo make install?
[03:11] <element> apokryphos: ok thx
[03:12] <andi5> paradise: yes, it is a weird translator from one language we know a bit to a language we know very little
[03:12] <Paladine> hmmm I can smell burning paper
[03:12] <Adam_G> alright, apokryphos, looks like it worked... thanks for the help
[03:12] <Paladine> but it is 2am
[03:12] <Paladine> weird
[03:12] <apokryphos> Adam_G: np
[03:12] <Adam_G> hopefully I'll be back on from xubuntu soon :)
[03:12] <andi5> paradise: no, let it make.... first make, then install
[03:12] <apokryphos> checkinstall might be a better idea
[03:12] <paradise> andi5: notying was created
[03:13] <paradise> andi5: make finished but no file was created
[03:13] <andi5> paradise: what do you mean with "no file was created"?
[03:13] <paradise> andi5: make finished, so now what?
[03:13] <paradise> andi5: i dont see anything new
[03:13] <hedonistic> spades, that command didn't work to restart the networking daemon
[03:13] <andi5> paradise: yes, what do you expect, shall every start blinking?
[03:13] <andi5> apokryphos: how do you call checkinstall?
[03:13] <paradise> andi5: make finished, so now what?
[03:14] <spades> hedonistic try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:14] <paradise> andi5: whats next?
[03:14] <apokryphos> !checkinstall
[03:14] <ubotu> checkinstall is a replacement for "make install", when compiling. It will inflate a .deb package for you to install, which will then be listed in the database. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[03:14] <apokryphos> andi5: basically you configure, make, then sudo checkinstall and it creates the deb for you
[03:14] <andi5> paradise: do not drive me crazy, please :) first: i have told you twice, now apokryphos made a better advice, but you seem to ignore everything :)
[03:15] <andi5> paradise: so.... sudo checkinstall seems to do it
[03:15] <apokryphos> paradise: if you're compiling you really should read the FAQ entry on it first.
[03:15] <paradise> apokryphos: i downloaded xchat source! whats my first step please?
[03:15] <dagrump_> i just spit beer on my monitor who needs tv
[03:15] <paradise> apokryphos: I did ./configure
[03:15] <apokryphos> paradise: first step is reading the FAQ :)
[03:15] <NickGarvey> paradise: less README
[03:15] <paradise> apokryphos: whats after that?
[03:15] <paradise> apokryphos: I read FAQ
[03:15] <apokryphos> paradise: then you'd know what to do
[03:15] <NickGarvey> paradise: or maybe less INSTALL
[03:16] <andi5> apokryphos: first step is to join #ubuntu and ask why xchat is not installed still....
[03:16] <kbrooks> andi5: you are HERE :-)
[03:16] <apokryphos> andi5: they took it out in dapper for gaim to be default irc client
[03:16] <wastrel> i have xchat
[03:16] <paradise> install: No such file or directory
[03:16] <kbrooks> apokryphos: no, wrong
[03:16] <NickGarvey> yeah, suse doesn't have xchat either
[03:16] <spades> paradise INSTALL, its case sensitive
[03:16] <andi5> apokryphos: oh, yes, breezy had xchat, right :) well, it is long ago i used xchat ;-)
[03:17] <kbrooks> apokryphos: they replaced it with xchat-gnome
[03:17] <apokryphos> kbrooks: erm, no....... dapper has no xchat on install.
[03:17] <hedonistic> spades is there a particular way to enter that information into the file?  it won't read it...I commented out iface wlan0 inet dhcp (with ##, right?)
[03:17] <dhan> who can help me how to save a doc. in a floopy disc??
[03:17] <andi5> kbrooks: what NEXT? ;-)
[03:17] <dhan> tanx!!
[03:17] <kbrooks> apokryphos: "xchat-gnome" read carefully
[03:17] <wastrel> i don't think there's any irc client on install
[03:18] <paradise> apokryphos: i downloaded xchat source! then ./configure and then make!  but nothings happened after that
[03:18] <anosa> i love this channel
[03:18] <FunkyDiscoMan> lol
[03:18] <spades> hedonistic do you see a tab with my name on your bar, thats the private messages, see we can have direct no clutter convo :)
[03:18] <kbrooks> apokryphos: i didnt say xchat, i said ** ** ** xchat-gnome ** ** **
[03:18] <spiderbatdad> .anyone know how to completely purge enemy territory. can't find uninstall info in any of the docs.
[03:18] <tehbio> Can anyone connect to MSN through Gaim?
[03:18] <apokryphos> kbrooks: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.list search carefully
[03:18] <NickGarvey> tehbio: did you compile it yourself?
[03:18] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[03:18] <NickGarvey> MacSlow: hello :)
[03:18] <apokryphos> kbrooks: I didn't say *anything* about xchat-gnome, and I didn't say anything about being available anywhere else.
[03:18] <dhan> pls help me
[03:18] <tehbio> NickGarvey, No, it was also working fine earlier yesterday...
[03:18] <hedonistic> spades, no I don't
[03:18] <paradise> apokryphos: i downloaded xchat source! then ./configure and then make!  but nothings happened after that
[03:19] <dhan> i badlyy need your answers!!
[03:19] <smacky_wolf> Hey, has anyone used a Zen Creative with Ubuntu successfully?
[03:19] <andi5> spiderbatdad: sorry, _what_ do you want to do? :)
[03:19] <paradise> apokryphos: whats wrong?
[03:19] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell paradise about repeat
[03:19] <MacSlow> hi nicholaspaul
[03:19] <tehbio> NickGarvey, I can also connect to every other protocol.
[03:19] <gnomefreak> paradise: make install
[03:19] <NickGarvey> tehbio: hmm.. not sure, I am installing gaim now with ssl support so let me try when it works
[03:19] <MacSlow> hi NickGarvey rather
[03:19] <tehbio> NickGarvey, Alright.
[03:19] <wastrel> smacky_wolf:  yes, check here:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250
[03:19] <spiderbatdad> andi5: uninstall enemy territory
[03:19] <paradise> gnomefreak: after i type .configure I type "sudo make install" ?
[03:19] <kbrooks> gaim sucks
[03:19] <NickGarvey> tehbio: compiling as we speak :)
[03:19] <OffHand> can anyone tell me how it is possible that my swap is mounted on the desktop while the fstab is set to none?
[03:19] <tehbio> kbrooks, What would you recommend?
[03:19] <andi5> spiderbatdad: ah.... that is a game?.... you installed via apt like every good debian/ubuntu guy?
[03:19] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: good for multi protocol stuff
[03:20] <gnomefreak> paradise: ,.configure <options>   than make than sudo make install
[03:20] <smacky_wolf> Wastrel, I connected my friends to my machine and it just went... "..Oh, sorry. You want to ACCESS this? ..I don't think so."
[03:20] <kbrooks> tehbio: i wasnt talking to u
[03:20] <gnomefreak> ./configure <options>
[03:20] <spiderbatdad> andi5: no wget http://
[03:20] <kbrooks> NickGarvey: i mean, i hear that gaim sucks for irc
[03:20] <paradise> gnomefreak: 1. ./configure 2. make 3. sudo make install ?
[03:20] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: yup :)
[03:20] <andi5> spiderbatdad: i guess this is a bit to little information to get the full source ;-)
[03:20] <wastrel> smacky_wolf:  you have to install the current version of gnomad2, that forum post has instructions.
[03:20] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: I switched to xchat today
[03:21] <wastrel> i like xchat
[03:21] <smacky_wolf> Wastrel. Cool. Thanks. =3
[03:21] <gnomefreak> paradise: yes or instead of make install you can use sudo checkinstall
[03:21] <spades> hedonistic download http://www.3spades.net/interfaces and stick that in /etc/network  backup the current one, then edit to make sure if fits with how your router is setup and try restarting networking
[03:21] <paradise> gnomefreak: ok ty! ill try that
[03:21] <spiderbatdad> hoped someone had done it before. I can't find any uninstall info
[03:21] <andi5> spiderbatdad: sorry, i received only no wget http:// , to trailing slashes, no more
[03:22] <tehbio> Hurrah, WPA works!
[03:22] <NickGarvey> spiderbatdad: hmm.. yeah I'm not sure how to delete things that don't have make uninstall, just delete the bins and docs I'd say
[03:22] <paradise> gnomefreak: ./configure then make then sudo checkinstall
[03:22] <gnomefreak> paradise: but first install checkinstall
[03:22] <Paladine> Serenity, A Big Damn Movie...
[03:22] <kaot> hedonistic: or just use ifconfig manually  :/
[03:22] <andi5> gnomefreak: install: missing file operand \n Try `install --help' for more information. ;-)
[03:23] <spiderbatdad> OH...cant remeber the full address...got the info from ubuntu planet about three days ago
[03:23] <paradise> gnomefreak: checkintall was installed
[03:23] <NickGarvey> tehbio: works
[03:23] <tehbio> andi5, Thanks, it was a headache.
[03:23] <gnomefreak> andi5: huh?
[03:23] <tehbio> NickGarvey, Bah, are you using the beta?
[03:23] <spiderbatdad> seems like a fun game but my video card is too old
[03:23] <andi5> gnomefreak: you said install checkinstall :)
[03:24] <paradise> gnomefreak: Should I create a default set of package docs?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> paradise: first ./configure  when thats done type make than when thats done sudo checkinstall
[03:24] <Adam_G> apokryphos: worked... I'm eternally grateful :)
[03:24] <kaot> what i'd love to know is if the router's getting a bad dhcp request or if it isn't getting one at all or if it is getting one and not offering or the card's just not receiving or what.  weird.
[03:24] <gnomefreak> paradise:
[03:24] <andi5> package ... docs?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:24] <paradise> gnomefreak:
[03:24] <paradise> gnomefreak: ok
[03:24] <apokryphos> Adam_G: :)
[03:24] <gnomefreak> paradise: yes
[03:24] <hedonistic> spades, so just copy that whole thing into the bottom of the interfaces file?  btw, I think I am in the private chat now
[03:24] <gnomefreak> andi5: he is building a package
[03:25] <spiderbatdad> andi5: thanks for help
[03:25] <andi5> gnomefreak: but he has compiled already, why does not he simply install it?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> andi5: ./configure is not a last step
[03:25] <tehbio> Is suspended the Windows equivalent of standby ?
[03:26] <paradise> gnomefreak: it said.. Done. The new package has been installed..! Whats next?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> andi5: normally there are a 2-4 steps after that
[03:26] <gnomefreak> paradise: it doesnt say heres the package use dpkg -i to install it?
[03:26] <spades> hedonistic you should create a new file, backup the old one with the interfaces file i uploaded and if the scheme is right with the internal ips then give it a shot
[03:26] <paradise> andi5: why did you mislead me?  what you told me to do was false as gnomefreak gave me the correct procedure
[03:26] <harryv> evening. now i've spent quite some time looking for the 'development' branch that is mentioned here: http://kortlink.dk/2u4f - no luck?!
[03:26] <__mikem> gnomefreak, usually when I am installing source packages, ./configure && make install (or whatever) does the trick
[03:27] <harryv> (what i mean is, where is info on it?)
[03:27] <andi5> paradise: what did you do different now?
[03:27] <paradise> gnomefreak: i messaged you what it said
[03:27] <paradise> andi5: I did step 2 and 3 diff to what you told me
[03:27] <paradise> gnomefreak way worked
[03:27] <gnomefreak> paradise: congrats you built xchat
[03:27] <paradise> gnomefreak: wow yipee :) my fist compliation! thanks :)
[03:28] <paradise> gnomefreak: do i need to find the .deb and dpkg -i?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> paradise: i recommend checkinstall (i feel its better than make install) and it builds a deb
[03:28] <luke> i have lots of .desktop files in my Desktop folder, can I delete them?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> paradise: nope
[03:28] <andi5> gnomefreak: before i start to explode..... what did you tell him? i said: untar, configure, make, sudo make install.... .... ...
[03:28] <paradise> gnomefreak: thats great!  checkinstall is good
[03:28] <paradise> gnomefreak: do I now close xchat and reload it?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> paradise: if you removed the xchat you had your ready to use the new one
[03:29] <ryanakca> luke: if you don't need them, sure...
[03:29] <paradise> gnomefreak: im using the old one now!  shall I close it and remove it?
[03:29] <__mikem> I prefere irssi
[03:29] <gnomefreak> paradise: try to close this one and run xchat find out if right version
[03:29] <luke> ryanakca: do you know what they are?
[03:29] <paradise> gnomefreak: ok brb
[03:30] <ryanakca> Luke: I believe they're "shortcuts" for kde...
[03:30] <luke> ooh ok ty
[03:30] <eternaljoy> hi
[03:30] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: you are a legend, it works well
[03:31] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: xchat?>
[03:31] <vvarder> does anyone know of a repository for a Ubuntu Dapper build of 0.19?  I was running 0.18 out of multiverse but I upgraded the backend and would rather use 0.19
[03:31] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: it now says xchat 2.6.4
[03:31] <element> apokryphos: is it possible to use x86 ubuntu on my 64bit AMD processor?
[03:31] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: im glad it works
[03:31] <__mikem> element yes you can
[03:31] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: i simply closed the xchat and reloaded and it loads xchat 2.6.4 now instead of 2.4.4
[03:31] <element> __mikem: are there any conflicts?
[03:31] <apokryphos> element: it is, yes.
[03:31] <hedonistic> spades, can you check the private chat?
[03:31] <__mikem> I have an amd64 and I use ubuntu all the time
[03:32] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: do I need to remove 2.4.4?
[03:32] <element> apokryphos: will I lose a lot of performance on it?
[03:32] <dagrump_> theeeereeee baaaaaack!!!  lol
[03:32] <apokryphos> element: as the article says, some.
[03:32] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: no you dont but you can
[03:32] <spades> hedonistic type something back so i know you can see it in the private chat
[03:32] <element> apokryphos: hmmm ok, I'm willing to sacrafice that in order for it to *WORK*
[03:32] <element> apokryphos: because I really need something taht WORKS
[03:32] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: do you use xchat?
[03:32] <hedonistic> spades, I did
[03:32] <hedonistic> spades, I guess you don't see it though...
[03:32] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: nope not in a long time
[03:33] <element> apokryphos: also, which article are you speaking of? I couldn't find it...
[03:33] <apokryphos> element: 64bit "works" quite perfectly, it's an officially supported architecture, and I've used it for months.
[03:33] <apokryphos> !faq > element
[03:33] <element> apokryphos: no issues at all with it?
[03:33] <spades> hedonistic i dont see anything from you there, duno whats up
[03:33] <spades> hedonistic you have aim?
[03:33] <apokryphos> element: only things are what are said there :)
[03:33] <element> apokryphos: I have a little bit of linux exp, but not enough to run into problems and fix them easily.
[03:33] <janitor61> hi can anyone help on installer freezing issues?
[03:33] <element> apokryphos: okie, I'll read it over now.
[03:33] <hedonistic> k, yes, thats what I'm accessing this through
[03:33] <eternaljoy> andi5: learn from gnomefreak before you give out false information next time please
[03:33] <__mikem> element, I have NEVER had any problems with ubuntu on my computer, then again I am running it through vmware.
[03:34] <spades> hedonistic message me @ iam3spades
[03:34] <element> __mikem: lol nice.
[03:34] <apokryphos> element: it's not a case of problems, it's a case of things that aren't physically possible on amd64. If they are things that bother you, then....
[03:34] <andi5> man, i desparately need irc ignore functionality
[03:34] <element> apokryphos: depends what those things are.
[03:34] <hedonistic> spades, says user not logged in...
[03:34] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: thanks again!  I wrote those 3 steps down so next time I can download the source and compile and install :)
[03:35] <apokryphos> element: check your message from ubuntu, he will give you the link to the FAQ
[03:35] <element> apokryphos: yeah, looks like I'm going x86
[03:35] <andi5> oh... there may be... checking
[03:35] <janitor61> is there a known problem with SATA drives in the installer?
[03:35] <gnomefreak> andi5: thats easy but this will all stop
[03:35] <apokryphos> element: or here:
[03:35] <apokryphos> !faq
[03:35] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[03:35] <spades> hedonistic on aim or irc?
[03:35] <element> apokryphos: yup, reading it over now...I need flash, I need WINE, and I need w32 codecs (for work)....so yeah, I'll be forced to go x86
[03:35] <hedonistic> spades, sorry, I thought you said gaim
[03:35] <apokryphos> element: right
[03:35] <spades> hedonistic gaim is aim, just using aim protocol contact me :P
[03:36] <eternaljoy> andi5: next time tell people to download xchat source, then 1. ./configure 2. make 3. sudo checkinstall
[03:36] <element> apokryphos: there's no multilib support such as what gentoo has for 32bit apps?
[03:36] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: yw those are basic functions to building froma tar.gz you can get into ./configure with as many options as it has
[03:36] <eternaljoy> andi5: simple as that
[03:36] <apokryphos> element: it's a shame Ubuntu isn't BiArch, really (as some other Linux distros). AMD64s are made to be perfectly compatible with 32bit libs
[03:36] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ok
[03:36] <apokryphos> element: on debian/ubuntu unfortunately not, no.
[03:36] <element> apokryphos: any future support for this planned?
[03:36] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: will those 3 steps work with any sources as well?
[03:36] <Healot> well, edgy going to be multiarc
[03:36] <apokryphos> element: yes :), but it might be quite some time.
[03:36] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: pretty much
[03:36] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ok
[03:36] <apokryphos> Healot: not necessarily, no.
[03:36] <andi5> gnomefreak: i am sorry, it is really frustrating, no matter what i tell, i am the troll and lie and try to mislead ... the only thing i am not accused of is to be atheistic (being true of course ;-)) ... see you
[03:36] <eternaljoy> see ya gnomefreak , ty again
[03:37] <gnomefreak> anddont fret it
[03:37] <kbrooks> easyubuntu will not di out
[03:37] <gnomefreak> andi5: dont fret it
[03:37] <Healot> and gentoo is already supporting multiarch
[03:37] <kbrooks> ever
[03:37] <nixbox> hi all
[03:37] <andi5> gnomefreak: will try :)
[03:37] <wastrel> hi
[03:37] <kbrooks> not even when edgy is out
[03:37] <janitor61> hi
[03:37] <nixbox> whats the gui tool to enable XDMCP in gnome?
[03:37] <ardchoille> nixbox: hi
[03:37] <apokryphos> Healot: and suse has been supporting it since 9.3, yeah 8)
[03:38] <hedonistic> spades, argh, i click the IM icon in the buddies list screen, type in iam3spades, a tab with your screen name appears, I type, and it says user not logged in
[03:38] <zcat[1] > is there a wat to automatically change backgrounds every half hour in gnome?
[03:38] <zcat[1] > *way
[03:38] <apokryphos> kbrooks: what are you talking about?
[03:38] <Healot> apokryphos: why do you give a damn about multiarch anyways, Windows has done that since Windows 95
[03:38] <janitor61> my ubuntu wont install :(
[03:38] <__mikem> init 0 is bad, it will just keep rebooting forever
[03:38] <Healot> Linux world sucks sometimes...
[03:38] <kbrooks> apokryphos: the common customizationsspec
[03:38] <spades> hedonistic if you have multiple protocols, did you make it so it uses your aim nick?
[03:38] <wastrel> whats multiarch
[03:39] <NickGarvey> Healot: multiarch is very good
[03:39] <kdegel> anyone have the microsoft 4000 keyboard?
[03:39] <__mikem> HEalot why's that?
[03:39] <apokryphos> Healot: why? Because it's damn useful.
[03:39] <kbrooks> Healot: language
[03:39] <NickGarvey> Healot: I think its very important
[03:39] <wastrel> zcat[1] :  i bet you could write a quick script and cron i
[03:39] <kbrooks> apokryphos: is "damn" a bad ord?
[03:39] <apokryphos> no
[03:39] <NickGarvey> Healot: its the main reason I use suse 10.1 instead of dapper
[03:39] <Healot> define useful...
[03:39] <hedonistic> spades, I'm a complete gaim newbie (this is my first time using both irc and gaim), so I'm not sure how to do that
[03:39] <kbrooks> apokryphos: how come
[03:39] <zcat[1] > wastrel: probably.. was hoping for something easier like a package...
[03:39] <__mikem> kbrooks, technically he didn't say anything that can get him banned
[03:39] <apokryphos> Healot: being able to have 32bit apps ready and waiting when I want them.
[03:39] <apokryphos> Healot: without the hassle of a chroot
[03:39] <NickGarvey> Healot: I can use wine, I can use flash, I can listen w32codecs
[03:40] <kbrooks> wtf is multiarch?
[03:40] <garryF> We are just people here, not net cops.
[03:40] <zcat[1] > flash 8 /
[03:40] <apokryphos> kbrooks: now that is language :)
[03:40] <garryF> ya
[03:40] <zcat[1] > shockwave?
[03:40] <hedonistic> spades, I don't have a regular aim account if thats what you mean though...I have a google chat account thats it
[03:40] <Healot> that's why say Linux world sucks sometimes...
[03:40] <kbrooks> apokryphos: no, "f" can mean anything
[03:40] <__mikem> OH, I guess he has
[03:40] <wastrel> kbrooks:  i'm gathering that it lets you run both 32 and 64 bit apps on a 64 bit kernel (?)
[03:40] <garryF> Its shockwaving!
[03:40] <spades> hedonistic that would explain it
[03:40] <NickGarvey> wastrel: close enough ;)
[03:40] <apokryphos> kbrooks: multi = multiple; arch = architectures. Being able to have multiple arch packs on one system.
[03:40] <Healot> there are always reasons to hate linux and yet you guys still use it :)
[03:40] <Healot> ironically
[03:40] <apokryphos> kbrooks: please don't play stupid, we know exactly what the common acronym means.
[03:41] <spades> hedonistic in your irc window, try /msg spades hi
[03:41] <NickGarvey> hedonistic: you need to be identified (/msg nickserv help identify)
[03:41] <garryF> I hate cleaning house but I still do it.
[03:41] <zcat[1] > Healot: the only things I find lacking in Linux are lacking only because microsoft or hardware vendors make them so...
[03:41] <hedonistic> spades, done, twice...
[03:41] <apokryphos> Healot: what are you talking about? There are Linux distros that support it perfectly.
[03:41] <__mikem> Healot please stop trolling. Linux is our OS, we use it because we like it, you can't badmouth our OS
[03:41] <janitor61> so theres no way to install ubuntu on a sata drive?
[03:41] <__mikem> lol
[03:41] <__mikem> actually its our Kernel,
[03:41] <Healot> and multiarch support... but that's about it...
[03:41] <kbrooks> __mikem: of course Healot can badmouth linux
[03:41] <hedonistic> should I just sign up for an aim account real quick?
[03:41] <__mikem> but
[03:42] <__mikem> o well
[03:42] <Healot> but I don't hate linux either
[03:42] <garryF> Ubuntu recognizes sata drives. I don't see why it would not work.
[03:42] <wastrel> i hate linux on a weekly basis
[03:42] <Healot> I want to make it better
[03:42] <spades> hedonistic i wouldnt bother with it if you arent going to use it passed today
[03:42] <wastrel> and i've been using it for going on 10 years
[03:42] <NickGarvey> wastrel: ;)
[03:42] <janitor61> the installer just freezes at "select a disk"
[03:42] <__mikem> Healot, then find some source code and improve on it
[03:42] <kbrooks> wastrel: hate, hate, hate, eh?
[03:42] <NickGarvey> wastrel: love hate relationship
[03:42] <kbrooks> __mikem: umm
[03:42] <gnomefreak> Healot: can bad mouth ubuntu/linux or anything else he wants in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:42] <kbrooks> __mikem: there are other ways of contributing
[03:42] <janitor61> & i've been googling and people have the problem but theres no recourse
[03:43] <zcat[1] > anyhow...
[03:43] <__mikem> Yeh, theres reporting bugs also
[03:43] <garryF> Hmmm, strange. I wonder if it's doing something that just takes a long time
[03:43] <wastrel> this week i'm hating linux because firefox keeps crashing on flash player pages
[03:43] <kbrooks> __mikem: changing source code isnt the only way
[03:43] <zcat[1] > wastrel: to hate the flash plugin that causes it to crash..
[03:43] <hedonistic> spades, k, anyhow I copied the text from the link and pasted it into the etc/net/interfaces file (deleting what was previously there), was that what I was supposed to do?
[03:43] <zcat[1] > *so
[03:43] <Healot> i believe strong support would help elevate Linux use...
[03:43] <janitor61> well i shut it off after 5 minutes and no disk/hdd activity
[03:43] <wastrel> zcat[1] :  meh it's easier to hate the whole thing :]
[03:44] <janitor61> is there a text based installer i can use besides this live cd stuff?
[03:44] <Healot> source code is one thing... but not the only way to do it
[03:44] <Healot> janitor61: alternate install CD
[03:44] <kbrooks> are there 521 weeks in 10 years
[03:44] <zcat[1] > wastrel: what you hate isn't linux.. in this example it's a closed-source binary causing you trouble.
[03:44] <spades> hedonistic it would have been better to back the old one up, but it can be traced back no problem, the one i pasted for you will disable eth0, so if it doesnt work, make sure the eth0 line is set to dhcp and doesnt start with # and then restart networking to get eth0 back
[03:44] <__mikem> Healot, I guess my point is, talking about wanting to make it better isn't going to do so, actually doing something might
[03:44] <kbrooks> zcat[1] : dont be pedantic, dammit
[03:44] <hedonistic> spades, I did back it up
[03:44] <__mikem> !language
[03:44] <wastrel> heh
[03:44] <ubotu> Please watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:45] <kbrooks> sry
[03:45] <Healot> __mikem: I am doing something, my company support ubuntu professionally
[03:45] <janitor61> all right i'll try the alternate thanks
[03:45] <Healot> but still received too many complain from migrators
[03:45] <garryF> !computers
[03:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about computers
[03:45] <kbrooks> zcat[1] : but seriously, he can hate linux if he likes
[03:45] <spades> hedonistic great, so make sure the ips are right as per your router manual and restart networking and see if wlan0 works, if not, place the old on back and restart netowrking, should bring eth0 back and log back to irc since it will probably bounce you off
[03:45] <hedonistic> when i run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart I get a no such process error
[03:45] <__mikem> wow, ubotu knows nothing about computers
[03:45] <spades> hedonistic do a 'grep net /etc/init.d/'
[03:46] <kbrooks> __mikem: if YOU do, give your knowledge to ubotu's all-knowing brain
[03:46] <garryF> The linux made me do it.
[03:46] <hedonistic> wait, now it worked
[03:46] <ardchoille> HedgeMage: HI!
[03:46] <wastrel> hedgemaze
[03:46] <kbrooks> __mikem: /msg ubotu <thing> is <reply>text
[03:46] <HedgeMage> hi ardchoille
[03:47] <Healot> !multiarch
[03:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about multiarch
[03:47] <NickGarvey> __mikem: mind you, if its crap it won't be accepted
[03:47] <Healot> see...
[03:47] <__mikem> NickGarvey, don't worry, I have been here long enough to know what not to do
[03:47] <apokryphos> Healot: some info about biarch in the FAQ
[03:47] <NickGarvey> __mikem: :)
[03:48] <kbrooks> __mikem: if it says the factoid exists (WARNING: DO NOT OVERWRITE FACTOIDS UNLESS YOU ARE SURE THAT YOU WANT IT TO BE OVERWRITTEN: BE CONSIDERATE): /msg ubotu no, <thing> is <reply>text
[03:48] <garryF> Linux is great to visit those sites you think you should check out, but are afraid they might be some windows virus downloader.
[03:48] <apokryphos> kbrooks: please do not use caps like that again.
[03:48] <garryF> My eyes are ringing
[03:48] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: ops need to approve the factoid first
[03:48] <apokryphos> kbrooks: (ii) not everyone can add to the bot now, only a select amount of people.
[03:48] <kbrooks> apokryphos: oh, i see
[03:48] <kbrooks> apokryphos: thanks
[03:48] <hedonistic> spades, well my wired connection is still functioning even with that pasted into the interfaces file...I don't know if the network interfaces restarted correctly or not...
[03:49] <zcat[1] > "Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail"
[03:49] <wastrel> yay!
[03:49] <hedonistic> spades, I guess I can try unplugging my ethernet and try to connect wirelessly
[03:49] <spades> hedonistic first do an ifconfig and see if wlan0 has an ip
[03:49] <zcat[1] > !zcat
[03:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about zcat
[03:49] <luke> everytime my PC starts I want it to run the command 'sudo netcat -p 21 -c "thpot ftp" -l', how do I go about doing that?
[03:49] <__mikem> apokryphos, do people have to earn the right to modify the bot, or do they just loose that priveledge by trolling
[03:49] <spades> if it does, do an ifconfig eth0 down and ping the router, if it wont ping, ifconfig wlan0 down, ifconfig eth0 up and try get back on irc
[03:50] <apokryphos> __mikem: no-one has it by default; anyone can try to add a factoid but it has to be approved and added by one of the editors before it goes in.
[03:50] <wastrel> people were spamming the bot
[03:50] <knorg> hi all, after a change to my xorg.conf file the Xserver didnt start anymore, how can i edit the file now?
[03:51] <hedonistic> spades, I don't see one, has inet6adr with a bunch of stuff after it
[03:51] <NickGarvey> knorg: command line my friend, command line
[03:51] <wastrel> knorg:  did you save a backup of the old file   :]
[03:51] <kbrooks> wastrel: oh really?
[03:51] <zcat[1] > 'wallpaper-tray' looks like what I wanted...
[03:51] <matttail> knorg: use the command line and the program nano or pico to edit the file
[03:52] <kbrooks> wastrel: I find that hard to believe
[03:52] <Kibou> luke: put it into /etc/rc.local (wiithout the "sudo")
[03:52] <knorg> only a few lines to del
[03:52] <luke> Kiboy: ty
[03:52] <garryF> Technically thats a privelege.
[03:52] <wastrel> kbrooks:  i gathered that people weren't being discriminating about the factoids they were adding.  not commercial spamming :]
[03:53] <gnomefreak> wastrel: and kbrooks to continue that please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:53] <spades> hedonistic im stumped :(  i dont know if youre down but if you wanna setup a vnc session and let me remote into your machine i can poke around, no harm if you dont want to do that, just a suggestion
[03:53] <hedonistic> spades, sure
[03:54] <luke> Kibou: should I put a '&' at the end of the command?
[03:54] <spades> hedonistic 3spades @ 3spades.net  if ya want to email me the info
[03:54] <hedonistic> spades, I have a feeling its something simple I'm not getting...I don't know how to setup a vnc session though
[03:54] <knorg> is there an editor i can start from the command line
[03:54] <spades> hedonistic under system> preferences or the one under it should be remote config or something
[03:54] <Kibou> luke: nope
[03:55] <luke> Kibou: but say I have two commands I want to run, will they both run without the '&'?
[03:55] <hedonistic> spades, remote desktop...you need the command I guess?
[03:55] <Kibou> luke: yes
[03:55] <spades> hedonistic email me your ip address and set a password on it and email that too
[03:56] <n00bWillingToLea> I am sorry to interrupt but I have never used IRC before and I need to get help. What am I supposed to do?
[03:56] <siriusnova_> lol
[03:56] <zcat[1] > !ask
[03:56] <__mikem> !ask
[03:56] <siriusnova_> just ask
[03:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:56] <n00bWillingToLea> OK
[03:56] <__mikem> I typed !ask first
[03:56] <siriusnova_> :P
[03:56] <siriusnova_> i said ask first
[03:56] <siriusnova_> hehe
[03:56] <zcat[1] > not on my screen...
[03:56] <__mikem> :p
[03:56] <n00bWillingToLea> My shift button is not working.
[03:56] <dagrump_> knorg:  use nano
[03:56] <hedonistic> spades, hmm, would the ip be the router designated ip...i.e. 192.168.x.x?
[03:57] <PaulCbu> Hi there, i need some help with ra0 problem.
[03:57] <PaulCbu> any takers?
[03:57] <__mikem> nOObWillingToLea have you tried another keyboard
[03:57] <spades> hedonistic go to ipchicken.com to see it, in the router, foward port 5900 to the internal address
[03:57] <spades> ipchicken will show your external ip
[03:57] <__mikem> PaulCbu, being more specific increases your chances of getting a responce
[03:57] <n00bWillingToLea> No, I don't have one at hand but it is obviously a software problem.
[03:58] <PaulCbu> thanks __mikem
[03:58] <__mikem> How do you know its a software problem
[03:58] <__mikem> :)
[03:58] <n00bWillingToLea> I will post more details expaining I type slowly though.
[03:58] <whitesuit> is there a way to make icons be displayed only on a specific workspace?
[03:58] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea be warned, DON'T paste in the chatroom
[03:58] <knorg> dagrump, is nano installed by default?
[03:58] <hedonistic> spades, ok, I have the current ip from ipchicken, but I don't exactly understand what you mean by forward port 5900 to the internal address...(sorry I'm new to this stuff)
[03:59] <n00bWillingToLea> My shift button does not work without caps lock on. For instance, if I do not have caps lock on and I try to type a capital letter by pressing shift + the letter nothing is typed, not even a lowercase letter. Also, with caps lock off I can not type any characters like $ because when I type shift + 4, just like with capital letters, nothing happens. However with caps lock on if I type shift + 4 I do indeed get a $ a
[03:59] <n00bWillingToLea> nd if I press shift + a letter it types a lowercase letter ( which is normal because I have caps lock on ).
[03:59] <n00bWillingToLea> Another interesting thing to note is that if I press ctrl + alt + F1 to go to a terminal shift works fine in all situations ( with or without caps lock on ).
[03:59] <PaulCbu> Well, I've read the forums and it says that rt2500 comes installed with ubuntu 5.10. problem is im not seeing the ra0 on the network interfaces list
[03:59] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, I just said NOT to paste in the chat room
[03:59] <garryF> The only thing I can imagine that might make your shift key fail when in Linux is choosing the wrong keyboard layout.
[03:59] <n00bWillingToLea> Sorry
[03:59] <garryF> It makes our monitors all sticky with paste.
[03:59] <PaulCbu> when i run iwconfig only sit0 shows up with no wireless extensions
[03:59] <spades> hedonistic check http://www.portforward.com/ for your router on how to foward that port
[04:00] <dagrump_> knorg: i didnt istall so i assume yes
[04:00] <PaulCbu> i have a MSI PC54G4 card
[04:00] <Cornellius> Amaranth: You there ?
[04:00] <PaulCbu> ubuntu is not detecting it at all
[04:00] <burepe> I converted my music library with sound converter and the converted library is about 500 files smaller than the original. Is there a way to cross check folders and find out what files are not in the new one without doing it by hand?
[04:00] <knorg> ic, thx
[04:00] <__mikem> nOObWillingToLea, I am still convinced its a hardware problem. WHen did this start happening
[04:00] <PaulCbu> can someone please help
[04:00] <n00bWillingToLea> About a week ago and it works when booted into OSx.
[04:00] <matttail> so I have hda partitioned into 4 pieces.  hda1 is linux, hda2 is swap, hda3 is windoze, and hda4 is a fat32 drive for sharing between linux and windoze.  I have hda4 in my fstab set to mount rw.  I have two problems, I have to umount and mount the drive with my user everytime I reboot so I (not only root) has write access to it.  The second problem is that it will randomly change to read only, at which point I'm basically fo
[04:00] <matttail> rced to reboot my system becuase I can't umount it becuase "the device is busy"  How can I go about fixing these issues?
[04:01] <Cornellius> Anyone tried that thing that let you use Gmail account as a FileSystem ?
[04:01] <__mikem> Wait, is this a MAC?
[04:01] <n00bWillingToLea> Yes.
[04:01] <burepe> Cornellius: I have
[04:01] <n00bWillingToLea> Ubuntu PPC.
[04:01] <wastrel> matttail:  have you set your user flag in /etc/fstab ?
[04:01] <Cornellius> burepe: Verdict ?
[04:01] <__mikem> Great, I have no expertise in MACs
[04:01] <Kyral> MAC is the Hardware address for a card
[04:01] <Boelcke> Psst. Anyone listen to SomaFM.com on Ubuntu?  I can't get it to play...
[04:02] <joseph> Is it possible to have a different wallpaper for each of the four desktops??
[04:02] <matttail> wastrel: yes, it's users
[04:02] <__mikem> Kyral, I know but I don't know how to spell macantosh
[04:02] <Kyral> oh I thought you meant MAC Address lol
[04:02] <n00bWillingToLea> It is the same ubuntu, just a different architecture.
[04:02] <burepe> Cornellius: I use the firefox extension. But I don't really need it for anything that I can't fit in my usb key. I guess if you have a specific purpose
[04:02] <Boelcke> joseph, that's a neat idea.  Um...
[04:02] <__mikem> lol
[04:02] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, did you make any changes that might have caused this
[04:03] <Healot> rn missing
[04:03] <n00bWillingToLea> Not that I can think of.
[04:03] <Intangir> like fraps, but for linux
[04:03] <Intangir> do you know of a good video capturing program for linux? to record what your doing on your screen
[04:03] <Intangir> like fraps, but for linux
[04:03] <__mikem> Well, if it is a software problem, typically software doesn't just break on its own. IF it is a software problem, its probably a locale issue
[04:03] <Intangir> i wanna record game demos from linux ;)
[04:03] <Nick-xchat> Intangir: istanbul is one I think
[04:03] <Clujo> I think I might try a couple live cds for the keyboard
[04:03] <Intangir> thx
[04:04] <Intangir> do you know of any other good ones?
[04:04] <__mikem> Clujo, you just gave me an idea thanks
[04:04] <Nick-xchat> Intangir: not sure, I haven't even used that
[04:04] <joseph> Boelcke, is it possible?
[04:04] <__mikem> n00bWillingtoLea do you have a live cd on hand
[04:04] <whitesuit> is there a way to make icons be displayed only on a specific workspace?
[04:04] <n00bWillingToLea> Yes.
[04:04] <__mikem> Could you pop it in and see if the keyboard works with it?
[04:04] <burepe> Is there a way to check 2 identical folders for discrepencies? what files are missing or what not?
[04:05] <leboff> hey , i have bcm43xx card (buffalo version...) and i'm connected to my router.. but i'm still gettin no internet..c an someone help out?
[04:05] <Intangir> thx
[04:05] <Intangir> Nick-xchat:
[04:05] <Tantalum> I have a wireless network setup in my house and unbuntu sees my wireless card but wont detect my network can someone tell me if there is something that I have to do. My net work usees DHCP
[04:05] <Boelcke> joseph, I'm not sure.  Sorry.  I was hoping to hear someone answer!
[04:05] <PaulCbu> hi, my ubuntu breezy isn't listing ra0 on the network interface list. I'm using MSI PC54G4. Any ideas?
[04:05] <n00bWillingToLea> Sure, I am running on said computer now though.
[04:05] <joseph> Boelcke, it would be pretty cool
[04:05] <garryF> I do not know Boelcke
[04:05] <leboff> Tantalum: try using static once.. i know thats worked for me
[04:06] <yosup> i get into my os....it freezes at checking all file systems and when i run the restore it freezes what a truncated erorr of hdb2 witch is a reiserfs
[04:06] <Boelcke> Anyone listen to radio on SomaFM.com? I can't get it to work...
[04:06] <Tantalum> My network has to use DHCP
[04:06] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, when you get it booted up, if it appears to work, just talk to me from the live cd until I give you further instructions
[04:06] <n00bWillingToLea> OK bye.
[04:06] <__mikem> bye
[04:06] <yosup> i CANT get into my os....it freezes at checking all file systems and when i run the restore it freezes what a truncated erorr of hdb2 witch is a reiserfs...can someone help me
[04:07] <PaulCbu> hi, my ubuntu breezy isn't listing ra0 on the network interface list. I'm using MSI PC54G4. Any ideas?
[04:07] <n00bWillingToLea> Sorry, but I installed Xchat to use IRC. What should I use on the liveCD?
[04:07] <garryF> gaim
[04:07] <__mikem> or irssi
[04:07] <Boelcke> yosup, have you tried booting a Live CD?
[04:07] <n00bWillingToLea> OK bye, really this time : )
[04:07] <__mikem> bye
[04:08] <Warbo> Does anyone know how to tell if my CD writer is screwed? It doesn't work on a few distros with a few different discs
[04:08] <yosup> BoeIcke.....yes and it works fine...i can even mount the file systems
[04:08] <__mikem> garryF, for when he gets back, what package deals with locale
[04:08] <__mikem> ?
[04:08] <garryF> __mikem Dunno.
[04:09] <yosup> BoeIcke.....i think its because my file system is durty....what do u think
[04:09] <JDSBlueDevl> help, my Linux system stalled on "waiting for root file system"
[04:09] <Warbo> __mikem: language-support-XX and locales maybe?
[04:09] <hedonistic> spades, k, I think I understand how to do it, do I really need to setup a static IP though...that seems like alot of work and the directions to do so are for windows...
[04:09] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: What is your root (/) filesystem on?
[04:09] <PaulCbu> hi, my ubuntu breezy isn't listing ra0 on the network interface list. I'm using MSI PC54G4. Any ideas?
[04:09] <JDSBlueDevl> what do you mean?
[04:09] <dstyrk> Hi all.. i am having a hard time installing Ubuntu.. I downloaded the iso, burned it to CD.  Tried to boot an install and for some reason my iMac (older G3, looks like the eMac) won't boot or install from the CD.. Once OSX boots up it shows that the CD is there... Any ideas?
[04:09] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Where did you install Ubuntu (what type of disc)
[04:10] <JDSBlueDevl> hard disk
[04:10] <spades> hedonistic you can do an ifconfig eth0 to see what address dhcp gave you and use that
[04:10] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: What type?
[04:10] <JDSBlueDevl> now it's telling me "ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!"
[04:10] <JDSBlueDevl> NTFS
[04:10] <hedonistic> spades, k
[04:10] <Boelcke> yosup, can you run the disk-check while booted on the LiveCD?
[04:10] <bderrly> hah
[04:10] <larson9999> here is my sources list.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16909.  what do i need to add/change so i can install  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-686?
[04:10] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Ermmmmm...You can't install Ubuntu to NTFS
[04:10] <garryF> JDSBlueDevl: I had that happen once, when grub was pointing to the wrong partition on the wrong drive for the root filesystem. It was in the same partition as boot and home /dev/hd3,0 and had to point it to that in grub.lst
[04:10] <JDSBlueDevl> well, it was working yesterday
[04:11] <yosup> dstyrk, make ur cd bootable in the bios
[04:11] <dagrump_> _mikem: 1 ? plz, is irssi cmnd line
[04:11] <bderrly> dagrump_, yes
[04:11] <Tantalum> I just reactivated my wireless card and ran wireless assistant but it didnt find any networks
[04:11] <garryF> Hmm, well that kills that guess.
[04:11] <__mikem> dagrump_ yes it is?
[04:11] <dagrump_> thanks ill note that
[04:11] <larson9999> oops! wrong channel
[04:11] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: When the boot menu comes up press "e" on the Ubunt uentry, then look at the "kernel" line and what it says for "root="
[04:11] <JDSBlueDevl> how do I access grub?
[04:11] <JDSBlueDevl> hold on
[04:12] <JDSBlueDevl> boot menu?
[04:12] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: GRUB
[04:12] <PaulCbu> hi, my ubuntu breezy isn't listing ra0 on the network interface list. I'm using MSI PC54G4. Any ideas?
[04:12] <__mikem> Ok, when that guy comes back, I think I know what I am going to ask him to do
[04:12] <dstyrk> yosup:  would it make a difference if I burned the iso from a windows machine?  Because I
[04:12] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, let me restart the computer then first to get to that
[04:12] <JDSBlueDevl> or did you mean Esc?
[04:12] <yosup> dstyrk. did u use windows?
[04:12] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: If you have the menu hidden then press Esc, then press e on the right entry
[04:13] <garryF> Grub can stand for GReat User Baffler, till you read about it then its kinda nice.
[04:13] <escobar5> hello, does anybody knows how can i work with subtitles that have special characters in qdvdauthor?
[04:13] <JDSBlueDevl> what do you mean by right entry?
[04:13] <JDSBlueDevl> oh, I see
[04:13] <yosup> dstyrk, nv, u said u can see the cd.....yes its the bios
[04:13] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, what next?
[04:13] <dstyrk> Yes to burn the CD, because my old iMac doesn't have a CD burner.
[04:13] <yosup> i CANT get into my os....it freezes at checking all file systems and when i run the restore it freezes what a truncated erorr of hdb2 witch is a reiserfs...can someone help me
[04:13] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: If you have a few Ubuntu kernels, recovery modes and maybe some Windows or other Linux entries make sure you choose your normal Ubuntu entry
[04:13] <Toma-> dstyrk: you didnt burn as an iso, and not just copy the iso to the cd right?
[04:13] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah, just did
[04:14] <garryF> Sorry yosup, no clue.
[04:14] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Try messing around with the root=/dev/XXXX bit, change the numbers and letters
[04:14] <JDSBlueDevl> root is pointing to hd0,0
[04:14] <yosup> garryF, np... is their a way to clean a reiserfs file system
[04:14] <Toma-> yosup: have you been able to access is before or is it a new install?
[04:14] <__mikem> hda0,0 shouldn't that be where the boot loader is?
[04:14] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Which root? The "root (hd0,0)" bit or the "kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hd0,0"
[04:15] <JDSBlueDevl> the first one
[04:15] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: OK, not that one
[04:15] <JDSBlueDevl> the second one is pointing to /dev/hda1
[04:15] <joseph> Boelcke, do you have kde?
[04:15] <yosup> Toma-, the only way i can access my drive is their a boot cd and mount them.....my old install crashed with the same error....im on a new install
[04:15] <Toma-> Warbo: hd0,0 isnt a dev entry
[04:15] <garryF> not unless you can use a rescue CD and it has a fsck option. I dunno how to use fsck but that would check the file system
[04:15] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Look at the line which says "kernel"
[04:15] <JDSBlueDevl> I am, it's pointing to /dev/hda1
[04:15] <Warbo> Toma-: I know, so if he said yes to that then we would know the problem :)
[04:15] <amonkey> i'm using my xorg.conf from my breezy install on dapper now and the twinview is all borked. Xorg.0.log says the metamodes are validated, but they don't appear in the resoltution list. i only get a single monitor although both are detected in the log.
[04:15] <Toma-> Warbo: ahh :)
[04:16] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Is that where Ubuntu is installed? (the first partition of the fiorst HD)
[04:16] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah
[04:16] <dstyrk> ok.. I'm having my roommate look for what program I used, but there was an option to burn an ISO and I chose that.. That didn't work, then I tried burn ISO with the option Make CD bootable. That didn't work either..
[04:16] <JDSBlueDevl> only 1 partition, if you don't count the swap
[04:16] <yosup> garryF, is that the same one as the install cd?
[04:16] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Hmm, well the "waiting for root filesystem" means that it can't access that (that happens when I forget to turn on my external HD :) )
[04:16] <Toma-> yosup: well, have you changed anything in fstab?
[04:16] <JDSBlueDevl> it's an internal HD
[04:16] <Boelcke> joseph, I've got kde and gnome, though defaulting to gnome.  Finally got it to play with XMMS.  Duh.
[04:17] <Toma-> yosup: or is the reiserfs your primary ubuntu install?
[04:17] <JDSBlueDevl> and just before I rebooted, when I tried running apt-get, it was giving me some sort of memory error
[04:17] <joseph> Boelcke, you can do it through kde
[04:17] <garryF> yosup I think the install has an option to fix a broken linux. Mgight try it.
[04:17] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Yes, since it is not sda I am assuming that it isn't SATA, so you shouldn't need any special drivers
[04:17] <JDSBlueDevl> it's PATA
[04:17] <yosup> Toma-, i took all my fat drives out of my fstab but they r still being check...and i think the prolbem is my reiserfs anyway
[04:17] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Try changing hda to sda maybe (I am not too sure about PATA)
[04:18] <JDSBlueDevl> isn't PATA just the formal name for ATA?
[04:18] <dstyrk> Toma-:
[04:18] <JDSBlueDevl> I mean IDE/ATA?
[04:18] <efox> hey hey
[04:18] <Warbo> ATA is IDE, PATA is Parallel ATA, SATA is Serial ATA
[04:18] <Boelcke> yosup, I ought to put the obvious warning here:  If you end up formatting the partition, and re-set it up, and still get errors, it could be a sign that your drive is dying...
[04:19] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, booting, still freezing on "waiting for root file system"
[04:19] <Toma-> yosup: ok. it might help to run "sudo fsck.reiserfs --check (or even --fix-fixable) /dev/your-resierfs-entry" from a live cd
[04:19] <yosup> Boelcke, yea i know :p...but its new and i can mount it fine through the install cd
[04:19] <efox> and thats what happened to my laptop hd...i reformatted and a few months later it kept doin the same thing
[04:19] <dstyrk> Toma-:  it was an open source program for window.. I fell upon it through "Stumble"
[04:19] <hedonistic> spades, k email sent, hope thats all you need
[04:19] <Toma-> !iso
[04:19] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: You might need to add some modules to the initrd
[04:19] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:20] <n00bWillingToLea> Shift is now working.
[04:20] <JDSBlueDevl> do you think installing the P2P-TV programs TVants and Sopcast under Wine may have done something to the system?
[04:20] <efox> is there a way to have a file/folder protected from being deleted but still have the ability to write to it ?
[04:20] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea are you in the live or in the installed
[04:20] <yosup> Toma-, ok...im going to switch back to linux
[04:20] <yosup> brb
[04:20] <n00bWillingToLea> Live
[04:20] <Toma-> dstyrk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:20] <Toma-> dstyrk: just follow that and youll be on your way
[04:20] <Toma-> yosup: np
[04:20] <n00bWillingToLea> 5.10 because I don't have a dapper liveCD.
[04:21] <JDSBlueDevl> and how do I get to the initrd
[04:21] <JDSBlueDevl> ?
[04:21] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I wrote a guide to booting non-bootable USB drives here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootFromUsb . You may be able to adapt the section which deals with adding modules to mkinitramfs to add PATA modules
[04:21] <__mikem> Ok, we have just proven that it isn't any sort of hardware issue.
[04:21] <spades> hedonistic are you running a firewall?
[04:21] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, do you have any way to mount your root file system?
[04:21] <dstyrk> Toma-:   So buring the CD from a windows machine to install on a Mac won't be a problem?
[04:21] <__mikem> do you know how
[04:21] <JDSBlueDevl> it says it doesn't exit
[04:21] <n00bWillingToLea> yes, why?
[04:21] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Hang on, typo
[04:21] <Toma-> dstyrk: nope. MAKE sure the mac bios allows cds to boot. usually its turned off
[04:21] <__mikem> THank god for that. I want you to mount it with read/write privleges
[04:21] <hedonistic> spades, on my laptop, I am running ubuntu right now and as far as i know, there isn't a firewall (I havent installe done anyhow)
[04:22] <XaviusShadow> I'm having a problem with installing ubuntu. The cd boots, goes so far into the install and then just kills over saying it can't find the CD in the drive.
[04:22] <Toma-> Warbo: does that mean i can boot ubuntu from my MRobe? :D
[04:22] <Warbo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootFromUSB?highlight=%28usb%29%7C%28boot%29
[04:22] <dstyrk> Toma-:  How do I check to make sure it will be allowd?
[04:22] <Warbo> Toma-: ?
[04:22] <Toma-> Warbo: its a USB harddrive mp3 player
[04:23] <Toma-> dstyrk: dunno, not a mac user sadly :( try googling "mac boot cd"
[04:23] <Toma-> or something
[04:23] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, so I should probably get my LiveCD?
[04:23] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, have you mounted your root file system yet?
[04:23] <Warbo> Toma-: Ah. Well I thought of doing that to my HD USB video player, but then realised that to partition it I would need to turn it on, and to shrink the partition on it I must not be using it, but by turning it on I would be using it
[04:23] <spades> hedonistic gimme a few minutes, got some work related things to do
[04:24] <hedonistic> spades, no problem
[04:24] <n00bWillingToLea> No I am currently making sure my thermal modules are loaded so my computer doesn't melt.
[04:24] <JDSBlueDevl> oh crap, that's right, I threw it away when it was giving me install problems (it was a beta)
[04:24] <dstyrk> Toma-:  Will do... I most likely will be back in a few for some questions.. Thanks for your help this far.
[04:24] <Toma-> Warbo: ahh :( can you install without touching a fat filesystem?
[04:24] <__mikem> ok, once you are sure its loaded
[04:24] <Toma-> dstyrk: ne time ;)
[04:24] <Cornellius> Anyone tried XMMS2 ? http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/index.php/Download_XMMS2 Can't get their repository to work
[04:25] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: You don't need to follow that guide completely, just the bit about adding lines to /etc/mkinitramfs/modules (find the right modules for PATA and don;t bother with the USB ones)
[04:25] <efox> so anyone know ?
[04:25] <Toma-> Cornellius: yeh i tried it. its horrid, so far.
[04:25] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, do I need to drop down to the command line first?
[04:26] <Warbo> Toma-: Well I suppose I could wipe the whole thing because I have a backup/upgrade for the firmware, so copying it onto a fresh partition afterwards may make it work, but 200 is a bit too expensive to piss around like that
[04:26] <Cornellius> http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/index.php/Download_XMMS2  I'm trying to add their repository for Dapper from their site
[04:26] <dstyrk> Is there a Mac specific IRC channel for Ubuntu users?
[04:26] <n00bWillingToLea> Ok it's mounted
[04:26] <JDSBlueDevl> and how do I do that from grub?
[04:26] <__mikem> ok, I want you to open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in a text editor
[04:26] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I don't think you can edit files from GRUB, you would need some form of LiveCD
[04:26] <Toma-> Warbo: fair enough :D but, HDD players are fun. you can wipe em then re-install firmware, just aslong as you dont flash its bios, you can still keep on kickin
[04:27] <Toma-> !ppc
[04:27] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[04:27] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, I guess I have to let it go until it drops down to the command line itself
[04:27] <Toma-> dstyrk: nope :/
[04:27] <Warbo> Toma-: Well I can't really talk about messing around with it, since I broke the screen a few weeks ago :( (well, my cat did)
[04:27] <JDSBlueDevl> might take 5 minutes
[04:27] <efox> how can i prevent a file from being deleted (other than root) BUT still be able to write ?
[04:27] <Toma-> Cornellius: and whats the problem with it?
[04:27] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:28] <__mikem> in a text editor
[04:28] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I don't think you can do it from busybox, since that is in the initrd filesystem, not the Ubuntu filesystem
[04:28] <Toma-> Warbo: i blame things on the cat too :D not breaking mp3 players, but more along the lines of passing gases.
[04:28] <Cornellius> Toma-: Packages is built specificly for Dapper are available:
[04:28] <Cornellius> deb http://exodus.xmms.se/debian drapper main
[04:28] <JDSBlueDevl> oh
[04:28] <Cornellius> However, when I add it via Synaptic, it doesn't work
[04:28] <JDSBlueDevl> I don't have an Ubuntu LiveCD, but rather an install disk for that
[04:28] <gdb> efox: remove write permissions from the directory the file is in
[04:28] <n00bWillingToLea> Done.
[04:28] <JDSBlueDevl> but I do have a Knoppix Live DVD
[04:28] <Toma-> Cornellius: yeh? what do you mean "doesnt work"?
[04:29] <JDSBlueDevl> would that work?
[04:29] <gdb> efox: the directory permissions control the deletion and creation of files, the file permissions only control modifications of the files themselves.
[04:29] <jpgvietnam> hi all
[04:29] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, ok, find a section labled "input device" with the identifier "Generic Keyboard"
[04:29] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: That should work, you just need tomount your Ubuntu system so you can access a text file, then chroot into it and rebuild the initrd (by using dpkg-reconfigure on your linu-image package)
[04:30] <efox> gdb: wicked..thanks
[04:30] <jolmash> hello all, Is there a way to connect satellite internet via  Ubuntu? I mean, just like kppp does it with 56k modems?
[04:30] <Cornellius> Well, I add it, the do reload to get the new package, then, it tells me it couldn't find the repository indexes from that place.
[04:30] <n00bWillingToLea> done
[04:30] <Warbo> efox: Some filesystems have seperate "writable" and "deletable" permissions, but I don't think Linux uses them if you do mount them
[04:30] <jajaja0> hey guys my nvidia fx5200 svideo out is pretty blurry..anything I can do to fix that?
[04:30] <__mikem> Ok, pastebin the contents of the section
[04:30] <gdb> efox: sure thing!
[04:30] <Toma-> Cornellius: email them. tell them its a buggy repo
[04:31] <n00bWillingToLea> sorry not sure if this is appropriate but "Toma- dstyrk: nope. MAKE sure the mac bios allows cds to boot. usually its turned off"
[04:31] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, how am I going to mount my Ubuntu system?
[04:31] <n00bWillingToLea> that isn't true as far as I have seen
[04:31] <wastrel> hold C to boot from CD on mac's iirc
[04:31] <JDSBlueDevl> would it be mount /dev/hda1?
[04:31] <Toma-> n00bWillingToLea: ok.
[04:31] <Warbo> Mac BIOS? That would be a very sad day if we are going backwards in technology
[04:32] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, could you pastebin the contents of that section and send me the url
[04:32] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Yes, I think KNOPPIX puts an icon on the desktop
[04:32] <n00bWillingToLea> OK
[04:32] <garryF> I dunno Warbo. I hear that the amish have been y2k ready for decades.
[04:33] <markg> glad that Ati finally got the .26 drivers out  ;-p
[04:33] <Warbo> markg: I use the Free ones
[04:33] <JDSBlueDevl> this didn't start happening to my computer until I tried installing TVants and Sopcast under Wine
[04:33] <Toma-> n00bWillingToLea: since you know more about ppc/apple, feel free to help dstyrk in my absence. thanks.
[04:33] <JDSBlueDevl> do you think that may have done it?
[04:33] <efox> gdb: it didnt work
[04:33] <keithhhhh> other than wine is there anyway to emulatate or preferably run XP in a window  WITHOUT installing a new copy of XP
[04:33] <markg> I tried them but they were a lil slow
[04:34] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I don't see how
[04:34] <efox> gdb: i did chmod 744 folder and when i tried to delete a file within that folder, it allowed me too
[04:34] <Warbo> keithhhhh: Use "qemu -hda /dev/hda" to use your own drive
[04:34] <markg> vmplayer
[04:34] <efox> the first rwx is root or owner ?
[04:34] <Warbo> owner
[04:34] <AidyMole> kay Im trying to get rid of openoffice but it doesn't really want to
[04:35] <Warbo> then group then other
[04:35] <efox> maybe that was problem
[04:35] <efox> damm
[04:35] <efox> Warbo: ok, my bad then..thanks
[04:35] <efox> gdb: nm
[04:35] <keithhhhh> Warbo: thanks Ill read about it now
[04:35] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, pastebin'ing the contents of a section of your xorg.conf file shouldn't take this long. What are you diong?
[04:35] <Warbo> efox: root doesnt have it's own permission for a file, unless he owns it (then it would be "owner")
[04:35] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, Knoppix finished booting, recognized hda1
[04:35] <n00bWillingToLea> The page won't load for some reason.
[04:35] <Cornellius> Is there a site where they show some nice repositories for Dapper ?
[04:36] <NickGarvey> !repos > Cornellius
[04:36] <proctor> Im having some trouble mounting a data drive that i happened to partitione & installed Ubuntu on, just want read access to it
[04:36] <yosup> _TomB, ok now i cant even boot to the cd i get a buffer i/o error on hdc witch is a fat now
[04:36] <markg> hey speaking of wine has anybody loaded up the 9.16 built from src on an x86_64?
[04:36] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Go into it when it loads and open up the etc/mkinitramfs/modules file
[04:36] <_TomB> ..?
[04:36] <__mikem> ok, just go ahead and paste it in here. I am sure they will unerstand in this case
[04:36] <NickGarvey> markg: wine doesn't work on 64 bit, sorry
[04:36] <eternaljoy> hi
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> Section "InputDevice"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Driver		"mouse"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"CorePointer"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"Protocol"		"ExplorerPS/2"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> EndSection
[04:36] <NickGarvey> !paste > n00bWillingToLea
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> sorry wrong one
[04:37] <paradise> hi
[04:37] <__mikem> NickGarvey, he can't get onto the pastebin website for some reason
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> Section "InputDevice"
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Driver		"kbd"
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc104"
[04:37] <markg> I keep seeing all of these posts using ia32 for emulation since the games are all 32 anyway
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> EndSection
[04:37] <paradise> whats the latest firefox?
[04:37] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: it's not true that wine doesn't work on amd64
[04:37] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: I hav eit running
[04:37] <NickGarvey> AidyMole: what distro?
[04:37] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, found it
[04:37] <paradise> whats the latest firefox? i have 1.5
[04:37] <JDSBlueDevl> wow, it's completely commented, with absolutely nothing in it
[04:37] <NickGarvey> paradise: <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:37] <markg> I'm in the process of building it now
[04:37] <__mikem> GReat, all that trouble, and the section doesn't have any problems
[04:37] <Warbo> "linux32" apparently allows running x86 architecture code in x86_64 architecture
[04:37] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: ubuntu dapper, you just need to install the 32 bit version, np
[04:37] <JDSBlueDevl> what do I do to rebuild it?
[04:38] <jolmash> hello all, Is there a way to connect satellite internet via Ubuntu? I mean, just like kppp does it with 56k modems?
[04:38] <paradise> NickGarvey: how can you tell if you using <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:38] <markg> just need to load 2 more deps in for the complie
[04:38] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLearn, no problems there.
[04:38] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here use the ati fglrx driver? I need some help getting it to work...
[04:38] <NickGarvey> AidyMole: yeah, I ment 64 bit distro, not 64 bit processors
[04:38] <NickGarvey> !ati > pianoboy3333
[04:38] <NickGarvey> paradise: help > about
[04:38] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: If you have added the right modules to that file (I don;t actually know what they are though) then open a root terminal
[04:38] <NickGarvey> paradise: in firefox
[04:38] <pianoboy3333> NickGarvey: I need specific help
[04:38] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: this is 64 bit ubuntu dapper
[04:38] <paradise> NickGarvey: it says 1.5
[04:38] <NickGarvey> AidyMole: I don't understand
[04:38] <paradise> NickGarvey: how can I upgrade to using <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:38] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, in root
[04:39] <JDSBlueDevl> but I don't know what the right modules are
[04:39] <NickGarvey> paradise: there should be a "look for updates" option
[04:39] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: JEEEZZZ you simply can install 32 bit apps on 64 bit distro's you know
[04:39] <n00bWillingToLea> I hope I can help whoever had the Mac questions but it is hard to follow so if there are any please repost them.
[04:39] <NickGarvey> AidyMole: yes...
[04:39] <paradise> NickGarvey: its greyed out
[04:39] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: do "chroot /wherever/you/have/mounted/hda1"
[04:39] <markg> <--64bit Kub here
[04:39] <NickGarvey> paradise: be root
[04:39] <paradise> NickGarvey: "Check for updates" is ghosted
[04:39] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: so? YOu can run wine on an 64 bit distro
[04:39] <paradise> NickGarvey: run sudo firefox you mean?
[04:39] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: do you actually have any clue
[04:40] <markg> yea
[04:40] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, did that
[04:40] <markg>  you can been doing it over and over all week  lol
[04:40] <Warbo> WINE can run in linux32, but it is hard to install, you can install 32bit packages easily in a 32bit chroot though
[04:40] <NickGarvey> AidyMole: I would appreciate it if you didn't talk down to me in support channel
[04:40] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: OK, do you know the version of linux you are using in Ubuntu?
[04:40] <JDSBlueDevl> you mean the kernel?
[04:40] <paradise> NickGarvey: it says 1.5.3 is the latest! your 1.5.4 must be a fake
[04:40] <JDSBlueDevl> or the Ubuntu version?
[04:41] <AidyMole> Warbo no need at all for 32 bit chroot
[04:41] <leboff> how would you check the strength of your link to a router
[04:41] <JDSBlueDevl> the kernel is 2.6.15-25
[04:41] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: The version of the linux kernel in Ubuntu
[04:41] <Bassetts> i really wish you could move windows about in the window list
[04:41] <NickGarvey> paradise: Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> is a security update that is part of our ongoing program to provide a safe Internet experience for our customers. We recommend that all users upgrade to this latest version.
[04:41] <efox> i have a CRON question. I'm trying to do a backup of some file and im using tar to do so BUT i cant seem to understand how to tar to a directory...pardon my terminolgy :S
[04:41] <AidyMole> Warbo, just dpkg --force-architecture on the wine .deb and install all the missing 32 bit libs too
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> leboff, in ubuntu?
[04:41] <leboff> nomasteryoda: yes please
[04:41] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: OK, then do "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.15-25"
[04:41] <efox> if anyone could give me the syntax or something
[04:41] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLearn, I really can't think what else the problem could be
[04:41] <garryF> Mine must be a fake too then.
[04:41] <Warbo> AidyMole: Ah, didn't know that (but I am 32bit x86 anyway)
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> leboff, you should install the gnome-network-manager
[04:42] <paradise> NickGarvey: it says <IP_ADDRESS> is the latest when I chose update
[04:42] <NickGarvey> !info mozilla-firefox
[04:42] <leboff> nomasteryoda: got it.. but i dont think it tells you in there
[04:42] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 104 kB
[04:42] <JDSBlueDevl> it's saying it isn't installed
[04:42] <NickGarvey> paradise: :)
[04:42] <paradise> NickGarvey: why does it say 1.5.03 for me?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> sure it will if you mean wireless
[04:42] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Add "-386" (or your architecture) to the end sorry
[04:42] <markg> was poking around on SF and saw qwine out there too
[04:42] <NickGarvey> paradise: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> mouse over the tray icon with the bars
[04:42] <proctor> paradise is running breezy tho, right?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> that is what mine has
[04:42] <Tantalum> I justinstalled nvidia-glc but when I do nvidia-glx-config enable I get an error message saying that nvidia-glx-config not found
[04:43] <paradise> proctor: yes breezy
[04:43] <NickGarvey> AidyMole: also, 32 bit only works on the AMD, some of the intel don't run 32 bit
[04:43] <paradise> NickGarvey: im using Breezy
[04:43] <leboff> nomasteryoda: hmm.. i have it on my laptop but not my desktop..
[04:43] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: Tell me what's the chance someone has IA64
[04:43] <JDSBlueDevl> should I run this under sudo?
[04:43] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: If you have chrooted then you should be root anyway
[04:43] <paradise> NickGarvey: I refuse to upgrade to Dapper
[04:43] <leboff> nomasteryoda: any way to make sure its installed
[04:43] <JDSBlueDevl> it's giving me problems again
[04:43] <NickGarvey> paradise: heh, I dunno then
[04:44] <paradise> proctor: I refuse to upgrade to Dapper
[04:44] <leboff> paradise: wha wha whaaa!!
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> leboff, open synaptic is easy way
[04:44] <paradise> leboff
[04:44] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: What kind of problem?
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> or use which
[04:44] <paradise> NickGarvey: you using Dapper?
[04:44] <JDSBlueDevl> FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/modules.dep.temp for writing: Read-only file system
[04:44] <yosup> ok...how do i add options to the boot cd
[04:44] <JDSBlueDevl> There was a problem running depmod
[04:44] <NickGarvey> paradise: suse 10.1
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> leboff, which gnome-network-manager
[04:44] <paradise> leboff: you muslim riught?
[04:44] <paradise> NickGarvey: this is ubuntu channel FOOL
[04:44] <JDSBlueDevl> THis may be benign
[04:44] <JDSBlueDevl> or this could be an error
[04:44] <JDSBlueDevl> depmod exited with return value of 1
[04:45] <markg> think over the last week fighting ati I rolled about 6 distros  just to get back around to kubuntu on wednesday when the drivers came out lol.
[04:45] <JDSBlueDevl> it's asking if I want to abort
[04:45] <JDSBlueDevl> or continue
[04:45] <leboff> nomasteryoda: .. hold on, i'm gettin it now.. maybe it didnt come when i updated to dapper..
[04:45] <NickGarvey> paradise: really? I thought this was #suse </sarcasm>
[04:45] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Seems like hda1 is mounted read only. In another root terminal run "mount -o remount -rw /where/you/have/mounted/hda1"
[04:45] <leboff> paradise: what are you talkin about?
[04:45] <garryF> Never ever go to the wrong channel? Hmmm.
[04:45] <NickGarvey> garryF: heh I'm in the right one
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> leboff, that is what happend to me too... i had to go back and install it
[04:45] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLearn, do me a favor, as a last ditch effort, boot into the installation, and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-kbd
[04:45] <garryF> NickGarvey hehe , yeah I know.
[04:46] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, did that
[04:46] <NickGarvey> :)
[04:46] <leboff> nomasteryoda: oh ok, then thanks for the help.. i appreciate it
[04:46] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Try taht dpkg-reconfigure again (in the chroot terminal)
[04:46] <paradise> leboff: you a leb muslim?
[04:46] <JDSBlueDevl> ouch, it's giving a whole bunch of "permission denied"
[04:46] <fdsd> Hey guys, I just want to let everyone know I made dinner for the first time today! Chicken, peppers and brocolli,  Yes I know its amazing, but I am just a normal man, You can do this too!
[04:46] <paradizelost> hey all.  can anyone help me to turn on Large File Support on Apache2 on ddapper?
[04:46] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Try running "su"
[04:46] <JDSBlueDevl> but it said it was able to write
[04:46] <paradise> NickGarvey: stop taking those anti depressent medication
[04:46] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah I did sudo
[04:46] <n00bWillingToLea> OK but first I am just going to create a new user on a hunch to see if it works.
[04:46] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: No, run "su" then do the dpkg-reconfigure
[04:47] <__mikem> ok
[04:47] <paradise> Warbo: you cant run su on breezy
[04:47] <NickGarvey> Warbo: su in ubuntu doesn't work
[04:47] <__mikem> if that doesn't work, I am out of ideas
[04:47] <NickGarvey> Warbo: do "sudo -i" instead
[04:47] <leboff> paradise: nah sorry not sure what that means even
[04:47] <tach00> !pastebin
[04:47] <Warbo> Is it installed though?
[04:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:47] <Warbo> I have found that it works in a chroot fine
[04:47] <paradise> Warbo: where you been?  on Mars?  su in ubuntu doesn't work
[04:47] <paradizelost> large file support - having files larger than 2GB show up
[04:47] <JDSBlueDevl> permission denied again
[04:47] <paradise> Warbo: not true
[04:48] <JDSBlueDevl> but it said it was able to write
[04:48] <JDSBlueDevl> well, I'll just have to try it
[04:48] <Warbo> paradise: Where have you been? In a Chinese pipe? Su works for root
[04:48] <garryF> fdsd I once saw a thing that said ye might be too busy if 90% of your meals are handed to you through the car window.
[04:48] <leboff> nomasteryoda: now i'm gettin no network devices found :/
[04:48] <NickGarvey> Warbo: (no it doesn't)
[04:48] <NickGarvey> !root > Warbo
[04:48] <ali> i am facing two problems one i cannot connect to pop on my website
[04:48] <Warbo> NickGarvey: Then how come I am root in an xterm right now?
[04:48] <leboff> maybe a restart will do it.. will it automatically load now?
[04:48] <NickGarvey> Warbo: because you "sudo passwd root" when you installed
[04:48] <ali> '<IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>'"
[04:48] <NickGarvey> Warbo: its off by default
[04:48] <paradizelost> NickGarvey: it does if you set it up right
[04:48] <Warbo> NickGarvey: Oh no I haven't that is stupid
[04:48] <ali> other i am getting following warning message "  WARNING: Netmask masks away part of the specified IP in '<IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>'"
[04:49] <paradise> Warbo: rubbish, doesnt work
[04:49] <ali> what should i do to solve it ?
[04:49] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???
[04:49] <paradise> Warbo: where you been?  on Mars?  su in ubuntu doesn't work
[04:49] <NickGarvey> Warbo: well, then you have a different ubunt then everyone else..
[04:49] <fdsd> garryF, lol, that was my life during college, I just realized, I could take that money and make my own food, and enjoy my meals much much more
[04:49] <Warbo> paradise: Were you doing it in a chroot jail?
[04:49] <paradise> ali: get a new nick for starters
[04:49] <leboff> theres gotta be some command line way to check your link
[04:49] <pete-is-outside> hi i'm trying to burn ubuntu onto a CD and i need help with where to extract and burn the .rar download on the site
[04:49] <paradise> Warbo: you are trolling
[04:49] <NickGarvey> pete-is-outside: it should be an ISO
[04:49] <ali> paradise, what is that new nicK ?
[04:50] <paradise> Warbo: you are trolling if you claim su works in Ubuntu, because it doesnt!  Stop trolling
[04:50] <pete-is-outside> just one file?
[04:50] <NickGarvey> pete-is-outside: if you are running windows, try cdburner xp pro
[04:50] <paradizelost> ali: is this on a dhcp server?
[04:50] <pete-is-outside> well i just build a shuttle
[04:50] <paradise> ali: how about gracious
[04:50] <NickGarvey> pete-is-outside: make sure you download off the ubuntu site
[04:50] <Warbo> paradise: What? No, I am stating that running su in a chroot of an Ubunt usystem as root works perfectly well, and allows you to be come root (or any other user) of the chroot system
[04:50] <wastrel> su works in ubuntu
[04:50] <pete-is-outside> i know, but is it just the iso i put on the CD?
[04:50] <garryF> fdsd Yeah, I made chicken too tonight in one of those foreman grills. I ususally got to restarurant in town because of the pretty waitresses.
[04:50] <NickGarvey> wastrel: only if you turn it on..
[04:50] <pete-is-outside> nothing else from the zip?
[04:50] <ali> paradizelost, nope it is on a fix ip
[04:50] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  su <username> ...
[04:50] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, now after the Uncompressing Linux line, it's giving me a whole bunch of "not found"
[04:51] <NickGarvey> wastrel: heh, we mean root
[04:51] <fdsd> garryF, you should ask her out, then she can make food for you!
[04:51] <JDSBlueDevl> as in /init: 86: depmod: not found
[04:51] <Warbo> NickGarvey: Honestly, if you have time later boot a livecd and mount your root partition, then chroot into it and run su
[04:51] <paradizelost> ali: no, what is giving you the error?  because <IP_ADDRESS> is not a valid ip address
[04:51] <ali> paradizelost, problem is only the pop3 and smtp is not getting on a remote server
[04:51] <JDSBlueDevl> what does that mean?
[04:51] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???
[04:51] <paradise> Warbo: rubbish
[04:51] <JDSBlueDevl> it's also hanging
[04:51] <paradise> garryF: can you run su in ubuntu?
[04:51] <JDSBlueDevl> hello, having more problems
[04:51] <paradise> JDSBlueDevl: hanging out to dry?
[04:51] <__mikem> 192.168.0.x is the same ip range our private LAN uses
[04:51] <garryF> fdsd Eeeney Meeney Miney Moe, which pretty waitress to ask out I do not know.
[04:51] <NickGarvey> Warbo: By default, the root account is locked in Ubuntu. This means you cannot login as root or use su. Instead, the installer will setup sudo to allow the user that is created during install to run all administrative commands.
[04:51] <fdsd> garryF, it was teriyaki marinaded, soo good
[04:52] <paradise> JDSBlueDevl: user error
[04:52] <leboff> i wish you could have a british accent on the internet..
[04:52] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah, it's hanging after /init: 1: /sbin/usplash_write: not found
[04:52] <NickGarvey> Warbo: right off the wiki man, you should read the friendly manual ;)
[04:52] <fdsd> garryF, all of them, for each day of the week
[04:52] <paradise> NickGarvey: exactly
[04:52] <garryF> paradise Hmmm, I've nver been able to get su workng tho sudo works fine.
[04:52] <n00bWillingToLea> It's working with a new user.
[04:52] <paradise> Warbo: did you read NickGarvey comment?
[04:52] <JDSBlueDevl> user error?
[04:52] <kaot> __mikem: but .255 isn't a valid IP address it's the broadcast address of the network,given that netmask
[04:52] <pete-is-outside> NickGarvey so i only burn the iso onto the CD?
[04:52] <JDSBlueDevl> what's the error?
[04:52] <NickGarvey> pete-is-outside: yes, it should be about 700 MB
[04:52] <pete-is-outside> alright thank you
[04:52] <paradise> garryF: exatly!  tell that to the troll Warbo :)
[04:53] <wastrel> i just used su
[04:53] <JDSBlueDevl> paradise: what error?
[04:53] <wastrel> don't call people troll
[04:53] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, that indicates a polocy issue, I would recomend backing up all your data and moving over to a new user account
[04:53] <paradise> Warbo: you troll when you keep claiming su works in Ubuntu
[04:53] <garryF> fdsd Hmmm I'll shall have to try teriaki. I usually spice it up with about six bottles of spices cause I can't decide wich I like.
[04:53] <NickGarvey> wastrel: thats because you used "sudo passwd root"
[04:53] <paradise> JDSBlueDevl: user error, not ubuntu error
[04:53] <n00bWillingToLea> OK
[04:53] <ali> paradizelost, it is changed now
[04:53] <paradise> wastrel: I can type in su too, but it wont work
[04:53] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, that means nothing
[04:53] <__mikem> sudo passwd root is the first thing I do when I install ubuntu
[04:53] <fdsd> garryF, the butcher in my grocery store does it for me for free, its really really good
[04:53] <garryF> I tried su in ubuntu, and it never worked, tho I can get sudo working fine. /shrug
[04:53] <Warbo> !pastebin
[04:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:54] <wastrel> paradise:  well it can be made to work, so don't go calling people troll.
[04:54] <paradise> garryF: :)
[04:54] <ali> paradizelost, still the same error i changed to 254
[04:54] <JDSBlueDevl> dropped down into BusyBox
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> garryF, designed to use sudo ubuntu is
[04:54] <garryF> I tried to get su to dig a ditch for work, but it said shovel not found.
[04:54] <JDSBlueDevl> I tried dpkg-reconfigure when I booted off a Knoppix LiveDVD
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> for security
[04:54] <smoofra> anyone know if the ubuntu server DVD can do a whole install via serial port?
[04:54] <garryF> nomasteryoda hehe, Yep. I like the syntax.
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> ya
[04:55] <leboff> i tried to get su in my bed... didnt work out so well
[04:55] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???
[04:55] <garryF> paradise I have a doctorate in ditch technology.
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> smoofra, wow that would take quite a while
[04:55] <Warbo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16913 There
[04:55] <NickGarvey> leboff: heh, "su hot
[04:55] <kaot> I dated a girl named Sue.  Called her Su in emails.  She didn't get it.  :\
[04:55] <JDSBlueDevl> this is worse off than the 15-23 kernel, which at least loads the splash screens
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> smoofra, no usb or cd drive?
[04:55] <NickGarvey> leboff: heh, "su hot_guy" never works for me
[04:55] <JDSBlueDevl> this isn't helping
[04:55] <JDSBlueDevl> help!
[04:55] <kaot> I tried to explain it, she broke up with me shortly thereafter.
[04:55] <paradise> garryF: define ditch technology.
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> kaot, sounds logical
[04:56] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Ok, if you use su in the chroot you should become root for your system, rather than root for KNOPPIX, then you should have permission
[04:56] <kaot> yes.
[04:56] <garryF> paradise I used to do yardwork for a living digging ditches and mowing lawns.
[04:56] <zcat[1] > my wife is su
[04:56] <kaot> I guess no one told her what I did for fun.
[04:56] <orcdestroyer> anyone knows about the rules of iptables firewall ?
[04:56] <paradise> garryF: ok
[04:56] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, then I should boot into Knoppix again
[04:56] <paradise> garryF: God bless your heart
[04:56] <smoofra> nomasteryoda: it has usb and a cd drive it just doesn't have VGA
[04:56] <leboff> zcat[1]   as in your wife is very powerful.. or her name is su..
[04:57] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: If you reconfigure the linux-image then you should be able to boot into Ubuntu (ie. that's it)
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> smoofra, ah ic
[04:57] <zcat[1] > Sue...
[04:57] <garryF> paradise and my shovel. Hehe. and your's too. :)
[04:57] <leboff> ah
[04:57] <JDSBlueDevl> well, I did that, and it didn't work
[04:57] <JDSBlueDevl> we're going to have to do this step by step
[04:57] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Hmm, still the no permission error?
[04:57] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> smoofra, well you could follow the install screens shots from osdir and i think install blind
[04:57] <zcat[1] > my wife doesn't know much about linux though, I wouldn't trust her with root access :)
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> =D
[04:57] <paradise> garryF: :)
[04:57] <blind> install me?
[04:57] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I will scroll up and try to understand it a little better
[04:58] <orcdestroyer> can anyone help me with iptables?
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> LOL blind wow did not know you were here
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[04:58] <NickGarvey> zcat[1] : "/bin"? is that a trash bin? I should clear it
[04:58] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???
[04:58] <blind> no one ever does :)
[04:58] <paradise> zcat[1] : pls dont disrespect your wife
[04:58] <smoofra> nomasteryoda: so there's no way to do a curses install via the serial port :(
[04:58] <__mikem> blind, I was BLIND to your pressence
[04:58] <__mikem> lol
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> smoofra, lets see
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> give me a sec
[04:59] <garryF> paradise Me thinks that those who disrespect their wives have watched too much married with children.
[04:59] <LoneShadow> what do I need to modify to make icewm as the default wm and to load as a particular user id, without asking for a login ?
[04:59] <paradise> garryF: indeed
[04:59] <JDSBlueDevl> OK, Knoppix booted up
[05:00] <luluzinha> hi
[05:00] <NickGarvey> hello
[05:00] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???
[05:01] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Hmm. Don't really understand those errors. As far as I know, if you add modules to /etc/mkinitramfs/modules and reconfigure linux-image (rebuild the initrd) then you can use those modules, so Linux should have no problem accessing the drive
[05:01] <JDSBlueDevl> what modules?
[05:01] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: By the way, don't use sudo in the chroot because it doesn't work that well and that may screw up su
[05:01] <orcdestroyer> how can I direcionate ports using iptables ?
[05:01] <mary-kate> hi i had a question, about the ubuntu 5.10 distro
[05:01] <orcdestroyer> re-dir
[05:01] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: The PATA modules
[05:01] <mary-kate> are there anymore updates for 5.10?
[05:01] <JDSBlueDevl> I don't know what those are
[05:01] <nomasteryoda> mary-kate, upgrade to dapper
[05:02] <wastrel> mary-kate:  security updates only
[05:02] <mary-kate> i have dapper on cd
[05:02] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Neither do I, but there is no point rebuilding the linux-image if it is exactly the same as the one you already have :)
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> mary-kate, you can just upgrade using dist-upgrade if you have good internet connection
[05:02] <tach00> i guess i am being ignored
[05:02] <JDSBlueDevl> so the problem is with the modules file
[05:02] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I though you seemed to go through the adding modules step a little quickly.......
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> tach00, what was your issue?
[05:03] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah, you didn't really help me with that
[05:03] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???
[05:03] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: You need to find out the name of all of the PATA modules you might need, then put them in that file one per line, then rebuild the initrd
[05:03] <mary-kate> is it a MUST that i upgrade to dapper?
[05:03] <Adross> with the podcast plugin in banshee, what directory are the downloaded podcasts in?
[05:03] <mary-kate> or can i keep breezy badger?
[05:03] <nomasteryoda> tach00, you using clustering?
[05:03] <Warbo> mary-kate: No, you will have a secure system, but no fancy new stuff
[05:03] <wastrel> mary-kate:  it's not necessary
[05:04] <tach00> i am sorry but i don know what tht is
[05:04] <JDSBlueDevl> where would I find that?
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> way, logical volume manager
[05:04] <mary-kate> ah
[05:04] <JDSBlueDevl> this isn't helping
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> lvm
[05:04] <JDSBlueDevl> pretend I'm stupid
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> well i was earlier
[05:04] <zcat[1] > breezy still has support for another year, right/
[05:04] <tach00> yeh, sucs to be the new guy
[05:04] <zcat[1] > ?
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> tried to install dapper on an iMac
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> failed very much so
[05:04] <mary-kate> then it's by choice if i wanna upgrade or not, correct?
[05:04] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: in a root KNOPPIX terminal do "nano /path/to/your/ubuntu/system/etc/mkinitramfs/modules"
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> googled and found upgrade from breezy is the only option for now
[05:05] <dribble> hey all - if I were looking to setup a box as a primary file server, hosting music and apps and such for the other boxes in the network, what would the proper protocol be...?  NFS?  Samba?
[05:05] <tmccrary> Is there a way to change the theme and font used for wine applications?
[05:05] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, it's open in KWrite
[05:05] <tach00> what is clustering and how do i turn it off?
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> dribble, sharing apps?
[05:05] <Adross> dribble: what are the other computers? Windows?
[05:05] <tmccrary> dribble: NFS for unix machines, SMB for windows
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> just sec tach00
[05:05] <tach00> sure
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> dribble, you can do nice web setup with ampache
[05:05] <Warbo> tmccrary: Yes, get a ".msstyles" theme
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> sharing music
[05:05] <Adross> dribble: samba is probably your best bet, but gshare is also good
[05:05] <tmccrary> dribble: If you have mixed environment, you're probably better off going samba
[05:06] <dribble> Adross, just *nix, but, being able to use a windows box in the future would be good
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> or gnump3d for music and video
[05:06] <Kartharak> Does anyone know how I can revert my top window button placement back on the right? I had switched it to the left to make it look more like OSX but I can't switch it back
[05:06] <dribble> tmccrary, thx
[05:06] <tmccrary> warbo: thank you, I will try that
[05:06] <Adross> dribble: samba then
[05:06] <JDSBlueDevl> what next?
[05:06] <iJeff> Does anyone know how I can revert my top window button placement back on the right? I had switched it to the left to make it look more like OSX but I can't switch it back
[05:06] <dribble> Adross, thx
[05:06] <mary-kate> ok, how long will security upgrade for breezy be available?
[05:06] <Warbo> tmccrary: I have forgotten exactly where you put them, I will check on my system
[05:06] <Adross> dribble: pleasure
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> tach00, so is this system already installed?
[05:06] <tach00> yes
[05:06] <jajaja0> anyone know how I can get my fx5200 svideo out better quality?
[05:06] <JDSBlueDevl> under This might be good choices are commented raidi and sd_mod
[05:06] <tach00> and updated
[05:07] <tmccrary> warbo: in the graphic section of winecfg maybe?
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> mary-kate, dapper is LTS (long term support = 5 years)...
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> much better
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> tach00, ic
[05:07] <tach00> now i have 2 issues, one is that something is stuck andi cant install anything with out gettig errors
[05:07] <tmccrary> warbo: Do the xp msstyles themes work?
[05:07] <mary-kate> and breezy badger?
[05:07] <Warbo> tmccrary: Put them in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/Resources/Themes in a folder with the name of the theme, then fire up winecfg and look in Desktop Integration tab
[05:07] <tmccrary> okay cool
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> tach00,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-186356.html
[05:07] <JDSBlueDevl> Warbo: where are you?
[05:08] <Warbo> tmccrary: I have tried a few and they all work, although some are a little crappy :)
[05:08] <kkaisare> mary-kate: Perchance Badger has already been relegated to history. I'm not sure though.
[05:08] <tmccrary> okay cool, thanks man, I appreciate the help
[05:08] <mary-kate> relegated?
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> tach00, did you do dist-upgrade?
[05:08] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: It doesn't matter if you add modules which you don't need, so just add any which are relevant. I have no idea what PATA ones are called though, I will Google
[05:08] <tach00> yes
[05:09] <kkaisare> mary-kate: redirected, if you like. :)
[05:09] <cjfp> How can I get Firefox to open text source code files in a new tab?
[05:09] <cjfp> I looked at /etc/mime.types but I don't understand.
[05:09] <tach00> i was using synaptic when i accidentally clicked kemirror and the it just started with the errors
[05:09] <mary-kate> ah
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> cjfp, i would guess you can do that with the developer extension
[05:09] <tach00> now i cant gt r of it nor can i reinstall it
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> web developer
[05:10] <cjfp> nomasteryoda: is there a way just to make firefox ignore mime-types?
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> kemirror?
[05:10] <tach00> sorry the keyboard is my other issue, not speling wrong on purpose
[05:10] <iJeff> Does anyone know how I can revert my top window button placement back on the right? I had switched it to the left to make it look more like OSX but I can't switch it back
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> cjfp, sure if you type about:config in the address bar
[05:10] <cjfp> i mean, anything matching text/x-*, i just want to open in a tab...
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> google it
[05:10] <tach00> yes for windows ce, didnt mean to install it
[05:10] <Warbo> iJeff: In KDE?
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> tach00, ic
[05:10] <kkaisare> mary-kate: Still, I'm not sure. And as long as the repositories are available, I assume that the packages may be updated on occasion. Seems too much to ask them to manage two issues at once, though.
[05:11] <cjfp> nomasteryoda: yes, i've been looking at about:config, that's how i found out about /etc/mime.types
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> tach00, can you do apt-get install --fix-missing?
[05:11] <tach00> i have tried every apt-get command i know and nothing works
[05:11] <JDSBlueDevl> more problems, I tried writing what was in that BootFromUSB to the file in nano, and it's telling me that the file system is read-only
[05:11] <JDSBlueDevl> what does that mean/
[05:11] <JDSBlueDevl> ?
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> apt-get remove clvm -f
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> -f = force
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> use da force, you will
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:12] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: It seems like KNOPPIX mounts stuff read only, so do the "mount -o remount -rw /path/to/ubuntu" command again
[05:12] <amonkey> when i try to run gnome-window-decorator i get the error (gnome-window-decorator:14184): Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_color_parse: assertion `spec != NULL' failed. what does that mean?
[05:12] <cjfp> i guess i can ask on #firefox, i thought it was a ubuntu thing
[05:12] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, did that
[05:12] <JDSBlueDevl> try it again?
[05:12] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Yes
[05:12] <iJeff> Warbo: in Gnome
[05:13] <tach00> however did not try those, trying now
[05:13] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, saved
[05:13] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Some of those USB ones may be a good idea, since they inckuse SCSI ones, but PATA will need some more (although adding all of the USB ones is not a problem, you just end up with a slightly bigger initrd.img)
[05:13] <JDSBlueDevl> next, do the dpkg-reconfigure, right?
[05:13] <an0malist> I just installed windows on another partiiton on this pc and it overwrote my MBR.. im in the ubuntu live CD now.. how do I restore grub?
[05:14] <mary-kate> okie dokie i bbl if i have anymore ?'s ttyl
[05:14] <tach00> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:14] <tach00>  clvm
[05:14] <tach00> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1
[05:14] <Warbo> iJeff: I don't know the syntax for Metacity config files sorry (but I know they are in ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes)
[05:14] <tach00> im telling you, this problem is strange
[05:15] <Warbo> sudo grub-install /dev/hda (where hda is your drive)
[05:15] <an0malist> man, i tried that
[05:15] <an0malist> i knew i was right
[05:15] <an0malist> check this out:
[05:15] <an0malist> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[05:15] <an0malist> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[05:15] <an0malist> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[05:15] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, what was the command for the dpkg-reconfigure?
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> tach00, have you rebooted since?
[05:16] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Well you need to chroot into your Ubuntu system first, then do "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.15-23-386"
[05:16] <netuser-ctba> Boa noite.. algum do Brasil aqui?
[05:16] <tach00> many times
[05:16] <JDSBlueDevl> uh oh, gave me the same permission denied errors in 15-25
[05:16] <JDSBlueDevl> you mean go to 15-23?
[05:16] <tach00> the only thing i havent done is a total reinstall
[05:16] <JDSBlueDevl> ok
[05:17] <JDSBlueDevl> permission denied again
[05:17] <JDSBlueDevl> crap, I put in sudo
[05:17] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Use which ever kernel you want to reconfigure (the one you are going to use)
[05:17] <amonkey> i can't get gnome-window-decorator to start, can anyone help?
[05:17] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Sudo won't work, but su will
[05:18] <JDSBlueDevl> permission denied again
[05:18] <JDSBlueDevl> this isn't helping
[05:18] <tach00> my system does not like me
[05:18] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Hmm. That is weird, try "ls -l whateverfilehaspermissiondenied"
[05:18] <JDSBlueDevl> this is output for ls -l /dev/null
[05:19] <wastrel> the word of the day is "yipe"
[05:19] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Ah, /dev/null, I can do that :)
[05:19] <JDSBlueDevl> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 May 20 00:00 /dev/null
[05:19] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah, and that's only the tip of the iceberg
[05:19] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Go into a new root terminal and run "mount --bind /dev /path/to/ubuntu/dev"
[05:20] <Michael-DK> hi all
[05:20] <an0malist> Anyone have any ideas?:
[05:20] <an0malist> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[05:20] <an0malist> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[05:20] <an0malist> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block dev
[05:20] <sapta> hi...
[05:20] <tach00> are you REALLY the master yoda?
[05:20] <Michael-DK> how the heck do i get flash installed on Ubuntu 64 bit
[05:20] <JDSBlueDevl> you mean /mnt/hda1/dev?
[05:20] <Warbo> Michael-DK: Install linux32
[05:21] <an0malist> yep michael
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> master yoda, me not
[05:21] <JDSBlueDevl> because when I did that, it said that mount point /mnt/hda1/dev does not exist
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> hence the name
[05:21] <wastrel> Michael-DK:  apparently you create a 32bit chroot
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:21] <Michael-DK> Warbo oooh ok thx
[05:21] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Yes, that will redirect any program looking in your Ubuntu's /dev into KNOPPIX's /dev
[05:21] <tach00> well i believe it will take a master to fix my machine
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> or "no, master yoda" I can't lift the xwing
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:21] <JDSBlueDevl> oops, b/c I initially did it without the /dev in hda1
[05:21] <Warbo> wastrel: You can do that, or use linux32 to run 32bit apps in 64bit
[05:21] <JDSBlueDevl> how do I undo that?
[05:21] <wastrel> okey dokey
[05:22] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: use "umount /path/to/what/you/want/to/unmount" (binding is a type of mounting)
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> tach00, boot into the safe mode and try to do apt-get update
[05:22] <tach00> too bad one of you linux guru's can't telnet into my machine and fix my problem lol
[05:22] <tach00> dd that
[05:22] <tach00> did
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> tach00, can you setup ssh?
[05:22] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, did that, then redid the mount
[05:22] <tach00> ???
[05:22] <JDSBlueDevl> what next?
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> if you portforwarded from your router the ssh
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> then someone could ssh into it
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> really
[05:23] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Try again?
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> not me though
[05:23] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah, I just bound
[05:23] <JDSBlueDevl> what next?
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> my firewall is too tight
[05:23] <tach00> tell me how and i will
[05:23] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I mean the dpkg-reconfigure
[05:23] <an0malist> lol
[05:23] <JDSBlueDevl> ok
[05:23] <an0malist> im just patiently waiting my turn for help with this grub reinstall
[05:23] <neotard> epiphany is a pretty good browser, better than firefox methinks :)
[05:24] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, just waiting now
[05:24] <Warbo> Epiphany is great, you don;t get all of that plugin crap
[05:24] <JDSBlueDevl> how long should it hang?
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> an0malist, have you looked online for directions?
[05:24] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: dpkg-reconfigure worked?
[05:24] <wastrel> hmm epiphany eh.
[05:24] <JDSBlueDevl> looks like it
[05:24] <JDSBlueDevl> no more permission denied
[05:24] <an0malist> yeah, and im still looking now...
[05:24] <JDSBlueDevl> I guess it's time to reboot
[05:25] <Michael-DK> well bedtime for me 5.20 am here :-)) cya all and goodnight/ BTW im known as Mike-X2
[05:25] <JDSBlueDevl> I should probably rebuild for 15-23 first
[05:25] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Then Linux will have access to all of the modules you added when you boot into Ubuntu now, so if you bothered to add some PATA ones then it will have direct access to your PATA drive
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> an0malist, this might help you http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2689.html
[05:25] <keithhhhh> what is the best video editing software for ubuntu?
[05:25] <wastrel> there's video editing software ?
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> keno?
[05:26] <Warbo> keithhhhh: I like LiVES, but it seems to screw up when saving :(
[05:26] <JDSBlueDevl> I don't know what the PATA ones are, though
[05:26] <Warbo> Kino and even Blender are good
[05:26] <doubletwist> So what's the most current, method of getting xgl/compiz working? I keep finding different methods and don't know which one works the best currently.
[05:26] <wastrel> doubletwist:  did you ask on #ubuntu-xgl ?
[05:26] <doubletwist> oops, no
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> doubletwist: Check in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:27] <doubletwist> Didn't know about that one. Thanks.
[05:27] <ajax4> How do I enable the "Run..." option on the Start menu?
[05:27] <keithhhhh> Warbo:  thanks ;)
[05:27] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Neither do I, but I know someone who does http://uk.ask.com/web?q=What+the+hell+are+the+PATA+modules+in+Linux+kernels+called%3F&qsrc=0&o=312&dm=all
[05:27] <Macbook001> I have huge balls
[05:28] <doubletwist> classy
[05:28] <Macbook001> But of course.
[05:28] <Warbo> Macbook001: In your mouse?
[05:28] <JDSBlueDevl> well, that helped
[05:28] <JDSBlueDevl> I wish
[05:29] <JDSBlueDevl> would it be ide_generic?
[05:29] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: "ls /lib/modules/*" look in there for some modules
[05:29] <JDSBlueDevl> ok
[05:29] <phill64> Hmm
[05:30] <JDSBlueDevl> I just have to redo everything b/c I tried rebooting, and it didn't work with the modules file the way it is
[05:30] <phill64> May I start a separate, very noobish discussion?
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> phill64, shoot away
[05:31] <phill64> Hmm
[05:31] <ocha> mehaio
[05:31] <phill64> Where is a good documentation on how to delete an old Linux parition
[05:31] <phill64> [SUSE]
[05:31] <phill64> and install a dualboot for Windows
[05:31] <Warbo> phill64: Just use GParted
[05:31] <Warbo> !gparted
[05:31] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> phill64, yes gparted
[05:31] <phill64> hmm
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> best way
[05:32] <taklz> hi i have a question when ready
[05:32] <phill64> Wheres some docs on gparted
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> just make sure you umount it
[05:32] <phill64> No idea. =P
[05:32] <ajax4> taklz: go ahead
[05:32] <taklz> alright
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> phill64: Don't really need one.  Installing Windows will overwrite it by default, then you can just read the dual-boot docs for Ubuntu.
[05:32] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, found what looks like a whole bunch of modules
[05:32] <JDSBlueDevl> modules.alias
[05:32] <JDSBlueDevl> modules.ccwmap
[05:32] <taklz> when i shutdown it doesn't shut down
[05:32] <taklz> lol
[05:32] <JDSBlueDevl> modules.dep
[05:32] <taklz> it gives me a weird looking screen
[05:32] <taklz> and just never shuts down
[05:32] <JDSBlueDevl> none of these telling me anything
[05:32] <taklz> and i have to do it manually
[05:32] <ajax4> Does Gparted also copy over the MBR?
[05:32] <taklz> using my buttons
[05:33] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: There is a whole directory structure, and each module file ends in ".ko"
[05:33] <JDSBlueDevl> well, nothing ends in .ko
[05:33] <JDSBlueDevl> are you sure I'm looking in the right place?
[05:33] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Hang on
[05:33] <wastrel> find / -name "*ko"
[05:34] <taklz> err
[05:34] <taklz> since ajax left
[05:34] <taklz> can someone else help me?
[05:34] <wastrel> taklz:  windows will write itself to the mbr when it installs
[05:34] <phill64> Um.
[05:34] <JDSBlueDevl> oh, I see, they're in the separate directories within the kernel directory
[05:35] <phill64> What if you already have Windows installed?
[05:35] <taklz> confused
[05:35] <wastrel> oops wrong person :]   sorry taklz
[05:35] <taklz> haha
[05:35] <taklz> alright
[05:35] <taklz> lol
[05:35] <wastrel> phill64: you have windows installed, install linux, then boot both with grub.
[05:35] <phill64> Uhuh.
[05:35] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, what now?
[05:35] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I can't really find anything in my directory which looks like it might be PATA, I have looked in ide, char & block
[05:35] <dribble> hey guys, so. . .my boxes cannot resolve each others names on the same subnet.  when doing rsync/scp between them, hell, even to ping, i need to explicitly enter the relevent IP address.  how can i remedy this?
[05:36] <an0malist> just make sure you install windows first :P
[05:36] <JDSBlueDevl> would it be under initrd, kernel, or madwifi?
[05:36] <an0malist> cuz Microsoft doesn't give a SHIT about your linux install
[05:36] <an0malist> then you'll be stuck like me
[05:36] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: If you find some thing that you want to try then write it into the modules file (without the .ko) and it will be built into the initrd
[05:36] <dr_willis> or you learn how grub works :)
[05:37] <phill64> Oh
[05:37] <wastrel> dribble:  add them to /etc/hosts  ?
[05:37] <JDSBlueDevl> would it be under fs?
[05:37] <phill64> Grub is sort of easy to config.
[05:37] <dribble> wastrel, so i have to do it explicitly?
[05:37] <an0malist> yeah and thats what im doing, but i do find this rather rediclous.. I don't spend a lot of time working in GRUB, so i shouldn't have to spend alot of time just getting it to work
[05:37] <phill64> lol
[05:37] <dr_willis> phill64,  its amazing what all grub can do.
[05:37] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I think it will be under block or maybe ide, but they seem a little generic, or they just have numbers. Nothing says "pata.ko" or something
[05:37] <phill64> I heard it booted somewhere like 100 different OS's,.
[05:37] <Alethes> is there a musicbrainz capable tag editor for gnome?
[05:38] <an0malist> yeah yeah yeah
[05:38] <dr_willis> Grub is one of the top 10 things to learn about - to become linux profficient. :P
[05:38] <taklz> when i shutdown my computer it hangs at a screen with a bunch of different colors all messed up and never shuts down unless i do it manually
[05:38] <Alethes> amarok does it, but I don't want to install all the kde crap just to use musicbrainz
[05:38] <JDSBlueDevl> ooh, I might actually have it formatted at ext2 or ext3
[05:38] <an0malist> bah, im just running the command like ubuntu help file said
[05:38] <an0malist> and grub spits in my face :D
[05:38] <Warbo> phill64: GRUB can boot any PC OS, since it can "chainload" which basically lets any other bootloader run, that's how it boots Windows
[05:38] <phill64> Oh also, Should I have a new partition as Extended on hdb or primary?
[05:39] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: That shouldn't matter, as long as your /etc/fstab is right
[05:39] <Warbo> woah
[05:39] <rpedro> Alethes:  ex falso is a tag editor , don't know that it does musicbrainz though
[05:39] <JDSBlueDevl> and anything with a hyphen should be turned into an underscore, right?
[05:39] <JDSBlueDevl> oh, nvm
[05:39] <Alethes> * Received a malformed DCC request from er[0] nbcn.
[05:39] <Alethes> (23:38:43) * Contents of packet: DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[05:39] <phill64> All I want is [I'm guessing 20gigs?]  for / and 30gigs for /home; how would I do this in gparted.
[05:39] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I think either works
[05:39] <phill64> and what the hell is wrong with this?
[05:40] <dr_willis> Alethes,  that just kicked off more people. :P
[05:40] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I have a good idea, run "lsmod" in KNOPPIX to see what it is using
[05:40] <phill64> Ahh, to many people are leaving , I can't read.
[05:40] <passwordddd> hello where can i see the os releases of linux?
[05:40] <wastrel> !ops
[05:40] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:40] <Warbo> Another Freenode server must be playing up
[05:40] <dr_willis> phill64,  thats why i normally have parts/joines hidden by default
[05:40] <JDSBlueDevl> I think it might be the ide-generic
[05:40] <wastrel> thanks
[05:40] <dr_willis> passwordddd,  Huh? clarify that.
[05:40] <wastrel> woo that's a new twist.
[05:40] <phill64> How do I hide joins then?
[05:41] <phill64> In gaim.
[05:41] <HedgeMage> nalioth: klined it already :)
[05:41] <jpgvietnam> how  to read *.chm on unbuntu linux
[05:41] <jpgvietnam> ?
[05:41] <nalioth> thanks, HedgeMage
[05:41] <passwordddd> dr_willis
[05:41] <jpgvietnam> help me
[05:41] <passwordddd> the os of linux
[05:41] <taklz> can anyone help me at all? :o
[05:41] <wastrel> !dcc
[05:41] <jpgvietnam> how ?
[05:41] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[05:41] <passwordddd> like ubuntu, redhat, etc
[05:41] <passwordddd> i want to see all
[05:41] <jonath__> !opsj
[05:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about opsj
[05:41] <wastrel> jonath__:  taken care of
[05:41] <jonath__> !ops
[05:41] <martin__> hello everyone... I've got a question which might be a simple sed alteration - am I in the right place?
[05:41] <dr_willis> passwordddd,  google for that disrtowatch web site
[05:41] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:42] <passwordddd> thanks
[05:42] <wastrel> dribble:  i think that's the easiest way
[05:42] <hawkaloogie> jonath__, don't do that
[05:42] <wastrel> martin__:  sure
[05:42] <HedgeMage> At least they're dumb enough to do it to staffers, too :)
[05:42] <Hobbsee_phone> hi lilo
[05:43] <HedgeMage> lilo: some DCC exploit troublemakers
[05:43] <HedgeMage> lilo: I'm klining them as we go
[05:43] <NickGarvey> lock and load!
[05:43] <Zenethian> How do I reconfigure Ubuntu to understand that my system clock is NOT set to GMT?
[05:43] <wastrel> set up a bot to just kline them
[05:43] <wastrel> nobody's got a legit reason to dcc a bot
[05:43] <s|tecrack> Howdy lilo :D Ready for another pwnage?
[05:44] <ardchoille> HedgeMage: Thank you :)
[05:44] <dr_willis> Im still curious as to how that exploit works on one port.. but not a differnt one.
[05:44] <HedgeMage> ardchoille: np babe
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> Zenethian: Erm, I might be able to find that file - hold on a sec.
[05:44] <martin__> hello wastrel - I'm a bit of a noob I'm afraid, but I've taken the plunge as it were - I'm almost there with setting everything up 'just so'... but I'm having a little trouble with a BC news rss feed in conky - at the end of each line I'm getting the []  box character (unrecognised character) and I'm not sure what to do about it
[05:44] <tmccrary> okay cool, themes definately work okay in wine. Now, how do I change the font? The default one is horrible and very windows like and it doesn't fit with my desktop. Anyone know how to change the font in wine?
[05:44] <lilo> dr_willis: it's designed to spot trojan activity on port 6667 and shut it off....the exploit fakes the activity
[05:45] <s|k> hrm
[05:45] <s|k> what is happening?
[05:45] <dr_willis> lilo,  so its a feature that causes a bigger problem then it fix's :P
[05:45] <wastrel> martin__:  it's probably a windows linefeed character...  is this a static file?  don't know anything about conky
[05:45] <Warbo> tmccrary: I know I did it somehow a while ago, but couldn't change it back. I had an ugly WINE for about a year
[05:45] <woo> Anyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".
[05:45] <martin__> wastrel: no, it's a grep output
[05:45] <LoRez> Warning: `bugs__,ed^c4rl^^,ed_rush,fragile_m,marc3lus|gone,v5h4rkx^888' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[05:45] <Hobbsee_phone> lilo!
[05:45] <NickGarvey> go away...
[05:45] <charle97> wow
[05:46] <Alethes> whew
[05:46] <HedgeMage> grr
[05:46] <Healot> someone hate freenode so much?
[05:46] <NickGarvey> dr_willis: yeah, like some firewalls would flipout with "startkeylo*ger", because it would watch that port and watch for a virus attack
[05:46] <eon> what packages do i have to get to use gcc in Ubuntu?  i got gcc and make
[05:46] <charle97> how do we know we're infected?
[05:46] <Healot> or a disgruntled user?
[05:46] <NickGarvey> Healot: trolls hate everyone
[05:46] <eon> but when i run configure it errors out
[05:46] <wastrel> it wouldn't disrupt the channel if people would just fix their junk :p
[05:46] <eon> on anything
[05:46] <hawkaloogie> eon, build-essentials
[05:46] <Warbo> eon: build-essential
[05:46] <woo> Anyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".
[05:46] <ruxpin> can I compile from source via synaptics?
[05:46] <PORDO> i just wrote my friend at intel about the new xeon specs.  he replied...
[05:46] <nalioth> !dcc > Alethes
[05:46] <PORDO> Yessir!  Just wait for the chipset with 1333Mhz FSB, the DDR2-1066,
[05:46] <PORDO> supporting dual-Conroe (4 core) Desktop CPUs in the next half...
[05:46] <PORDO> bwahaha.  I'm still working on BIOS for said chipset.
[05:46] <NickGarvey> and the ban hammer falls!
[05:46] <martin__> wastrel: it uses curl to get the feed, then uses regular expressions to cut out the html tags
[05:46] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, here goes nothing
[05:47] <Alethes> nalioth:  thanks :)
[05:47] <NickGarvey> does the D*C thing happen only on windows?
[05:47] <JDSBlueDevl> yup, ide-generic was it
[05:47] <wastrel> martin__:  i'd pipe it thru perl and use chomp but i bet there's a better way...
[05:47] <Tom7e> i have a problem.  I like to set both panels at the bottom of the screen, with the applications at the very bottom, but whenever i restart my PC, they are swapped with the workspaces panel at the very bottom..
[05:47] <martin__> wastrel: what's the etiquette with pasting a (very short) bit of code?
[05:47] <PORDO> hrm...what's with all the joins?
[05:47] <NickGarvey> where you get booted?
[05:47] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: It boots now?
[05:47] <JDSBlueDevl> yup
[05:47] <Alethes> whoever I disconnected by that, I apologize, I was just trying to find out what that text was
[05:47] <wastrel> martin__:  anything beyond 2 or 3 lines goes to pastebin
[05:47] <wastrel> !pastebin
[05:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:47] <JDSBlueDevl> well, I also put in ide-scsi
[05:47] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Wow, I was really expecting this method to fail :)
[05:47] <wastrel> !dcc
[05:47] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[05:47] <NickGarvey> oh its the routers
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> Zenethian: Gah, I can never remember where that setting is.  I have grep running though.
[05:48] <JDSBlueDevl> well, now you know
[05:48] <wastrel> Anyone wondering why they keep disconnecting?  Read the DCC thing above.
[05:48] <Macbook001> Is it true guys?
[05:48] <NickGarvey> Macbook001: is what?
[05:48] <dr_willis> Alethes,  heh - been there , done that by mistake befor also.
[05:48] <Macbook001> I hear this room sucks
[05:48] <NickGarvey> Macbook001: that it really isn't butter?
[05:48] <martin__> wastrel: :) $EXEC $URI | grep title |\ sed -e :a  -e 's/<[^>] *>//g' |\ sed -e 's/[ \t] *//' |\ sed -e 's/\(.*\)/ \1/' |\ sed -e 's/\.//' |\ sed -e 's/\"//' |\ sed -e 's/\"//' |\ head -n $(($LINES + 3)) |\ tail -n $(($LINES))
[05:48] <woo> Anyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".
[05:48] <NickGarvey> Macbook001: yeah dude, it really isn't
[05:48] <JDSBlueDevl> thx a lot for eventually getting me there
[05:48] <Macbook001> It's not butter at all.
[05:48] <Warbo> Macbook001: Well it does with you in it :)
[05:48] <Macbook001> WHAT?
[05:48] <martin__> wastrel: unfortunately I'm no regexp man....
[05:48] <NickGarvey> oh thats a blaze
[05:48] <Alethes> dr_willis:  I probably made myself even more ignorant of the issue by disabling join/part messages, so I didn't see anybody disconnect
[05:48] <Hobbsee> nalioth:
[05:49] <woo> What. The. Fuck.
[05:49] <phill64> Hey Wastrel, can you respond to my pm's, my screen resolution can only handle about two lines of text and I'm unable to read anything due to whatever the hell is going on.
[05:49] <wastrel> this is a disruptive attack where people join and leave repeatedly
[05:49] <NickGarvey> oh when the trolls.. oh when the trolls... oh when the trolls go marching in.. I would hate to be of that number.. oh when the trolls go marching in
[05:49] <lilo> =wohe (C
[05:49] <arapehl> uhm... *blush*... how would I go about installing this through apt-get?
[05:49] <dr_willis> Alethes,  with attacks like these going on  - i normally keep parts/joions hidden as well
[05:49] <NickGarvey> woo: I would suggest using an install
[05:49] <gnomefreak> lock it down
[05:49] <Alethes> heya lilo -- ltns
[05:49] <Zenethian> Well, I guess that's just odd.
[05:49] <lilo> hi Alethes
[05:50] <lilo> Alethes: don't repeat those exploits, they're still live 8)
[05:50] <Alethes> I wasn't even aware of the exploit
[05:50] <lilo> nalioth: that one may have been registered, looked like it
[05:50] <lilo> Alethes: ah, okay
[05:50] <nalioth> lilo: i've spoken with him in a time out
[05:50] <synacktion> lilo, help all us lost souls!!!!
[05:50] <Alethes> I'm only half paying attention here most of the time
[05:50] <nalioth> woo: watch your language please
[05:50] <Alethes> I just noticed that text and wondered what the hell it was
[05:50] <woo> NickGarvey: What? I am. I'm using the latest Dapper install cd.
[05:50] <woo> nalioth: Sorry.
[05:50] <NickGarvey> woo: the live cd or the install cd?
[05:50] <NickGarvey> the install cd is more.. stable in my opinion
[05:51] <taklz> hi can anyone help me
[05:51] <NickGarvey> not that the live cd isn't a well developed piece of software.. but you get the point :)
[05:51] <Warbo> !helpme
[05:51] <NickGarvey> taklz: ask away
[05:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:51] <taklz> ok
[05:51] <taklz> lol
[05:51] <Tom7e> i have a problem.  I like to set both panels at the bottom of the screen, with the applications at the very bottom, but whenever i restart my PC, they are swapped with the workspaces panel at the very bottom..
[05:51] <taklz> when i shutdown my computer it hangs at a funny looking screen and i eventually have to manually shut it down
[05:51] <polishkoop> How do I go about installing bitchx on ubuntu dapper?
[05:51] <woo> NickGarvey: Heheh, I'm not sure, The live cd, but what would cause the hang?
[05:51] <nalioth> polishkoop: use synaptic
[05:52] <Warbo> taklz: Can you do ctrl-alt-f1 or ctrl-alt-f8 when it does this?
[05:52] <Springer> taklz, you're probably on windows 95
[05:52] <NickGarvey> woo: (the live cd is kind of unstable, I suggest the install cd if you can spare the blanks)
[05:52] <NickGarvey> woo: I'm not sure
[05:52] <taklz> umm
[05:52] <Zenethian> I kinda wish I had used the install CD when reinstalling.  The live CD did OK but it was too simple, IMO.
[05:52] <taklz> id have to try
[05:52] <phill64> Wait, the livecd as in the cd that get shipped?
[05:52] <taklz> and im not on windows 95
[05:52] <taklz> lol
[05:52] <woo> NickGarvey: I'll do that as a last resort, link?
[05:52] <NickGarvey> taklz: hmm.. do you "shutdown" or "halt"?
[05:52] <wastrel> okey dokey.
[05:52] <taklz> shutdown
[05:52] <Warbo> taklz: That lets you change to different consoles, so you may see some messages about what is going on
[05:52] <NickGarvey> woo: um.. just go to the ubuntu site.. and there is a install link there
[05:52] <taklz> with the buttoms ubuntu has in its gui
[05:52] <polishkoop> nalioth: nothing shows up
[05:52] <Zenethian> Which is why I'm having problems with timezones and Ubuntu thinking that my clock is set to GMT
[05:53] <taklz> oh ok
[05:53] <phill64> Hmm, ok so the cd that they ship, doesn't work that well, right?
[05:53] <taklz> yea im pretty sure i cant
[05:53] <taklz> its just a messed up looking screen
[05:53] <nalioth> polishkoop: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[05:53] <byen> anyone know how to remove a distro on another drive and reinstall Ubuntu grub?
[05:53] <polishkoop> nalioth: i'm new.  I don't know.
[05:53] <woo> NickGarvey: It's not like frozen, the cursor is blinking and stuff, it just doesn't go forward.
[05:53] <Warbo> The desktop CD makes a very good installer for most people, whilst the text installer makes an adequate installer for everyone
[05:53] <nalioth> !sources > polishkoop
[05:53] <nalioth> polishkoop: incoming PM from the info bot
[05:54] <martin__> is there a shell equivalent to chop/chomp?
[05:54] <wastrel> !grub > byen
[05:54] <arapehl> uhm... *blush*... how would I go about installing this (http://packages.debian.org/stable/source/msttcorefonts) through apt-get?
[05:54] <byen> wastrel: thanks :P
[05:55] <an0malist> if you're using ubuntu, just use synaptic
[05:55] <ocha> hi
[05:55] <Warbo> If I have built a kernel module is there any way to get it to reinstall itself if the kernel gets upgraded?
[05:55] <woo> NickGarvey: The Alternate install cd, or the server install?
[05:55] <martin__> arapehl: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[05:55] <arapehl> an0malist: yeah, but I can't find the package in synaptic and I've got all the repositories checked off.. I'm not sure how to add the right repository to get this thing to show up though.
[05:55] <nalioth> arapehl: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[05:55] <Warbo> !fonts
[05:55] <ubotu> Installing fonts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 - Microsoft fonts: install the msttcorefonts package
[05:55] <Warbo> !multiverse
[05:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:55] <NickGarvey> 	woo: alternate
[05:56] <martin__> nalioth: snap :p
[05:56] <arapehl> martin__, nalioth: yeah, says it's outdated :-/
[05:56] <wastrel> martin__:  perl -e 'while(<>){chomp; print; print "\n";}'  but that's horribly kludgy
[05:56] <nalioth> arapehl: use synaptic
[05:56] <gnomefreak> ok gonna try to go back to sleep now
[05:57] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: night :)
[05:57] <gnomefreak> night
[05:57] <martin__> wastrel: I'd need to add a further pipe with that in?
[05:57] <wastrel> martin__:  yes :]
[05:57] <Warbo> I'm still feeling very offended at being called a troll for using su
[05:57] <arapehl> nalioth: any details on how if I can't find msttcorefonts when searching for it?
[05:57] <arapehl> (I'll try again though)
[05:57] <nalioth> Warbo: nobody cares what you use, just what you advise others to use
[05:58] <Warbo> !tell arapehl about multiverse
[05:58] <nalioth> !repos > arapehl
[05:58] <wastrel> Warbo:  i defended you <3
[05:58] <nalioth> arapehl: you have inbound PMs
[05:58] <woo> NickGarvey: Damn, at 1500KB download speedI can't complain.
[05:58] <phill64> wastrel, you have pms
[05:58] <Warbo> nalioth: Well, when sudo doesn;t work but su does then I think I will recommend su for use in chroot in the future
[05:58] <ubuntu> alright
[05:58] <wastrel> phill64:  i'm not seeing any ...
[05:58] <ubuntu> i'm using the latest liveCD (6.06
[05:58] <nalioth> Warbo: please do not advise it in here