[00:00] <xjjk> gnup?
[00:00] <ubuntu_> i cant remember the name
[00:00] <ubuntu_> properly
[00:01] <xxx_> Excuse for OFFTOP. Where are U from, Ubuntu & xjjk? I'm interestin in what countries people likes Linux?
[00:01] <ubuntu_> but main issue is that when i try to start ubuntu it throws me a dos window and wants me to push the TAB button to see some instructions
[00:02] <xjjk> xxx_: USA
[00:02] <ubuntu_> it shows something like these: rmmod
[00:02] <xjjk> ubuntu_: yah... it's a grub problem
[00:02] <Typos_King> heh
[00:02] <xjjk> ubuntu_: it's an easy fix, but involved, and difficult to tell whether you actually fixed it
[00:02] <ubuntu_> yes this:)
[00:02] <xjjk> if you can reinstall, I'd reinstall, it'll be easier
[00:02] <xxx_> xjjk: Hi, man from USA. I am from Ukraine
[00:03] <ubuntu_> so i think i have to uninstall it first in windows 7
[00:04] <ubuntu_> am i right or are there any better things to do
[00:04] <Typos_King> ubuntu_   did the installation ever booted in?
[00:05] <ubuntu_> yeah it did
[00:05] <Typos_King> I mean, for all we know there was some error on the install
[00:05] <ubuntu_> everything was ok  theres a problem with the working of it
[00:05] <ubuntu_> it was installed correctly in linux window
[00:06] <ubuntu_> it was booted so i think
[00:06] <Typos_King> ....
[00:06] <ubuntu_> when i come to make a choice
[00:06] <ubuntu_> between windows 7 and linux
[00:06] <ubuntu_> i cant start it
[00:06] <Typos_King> iirc it doesn't use Grub when it gets installed on a win32 partition folder, it uses the win32 boot loader, usually ntldr
[00:07] <ubuntu_> ow i think the problem is that my windows 7 is 64 bit
[00:08] <ubuntu_> and i installed it in windows 7
[00:08] <semistud2354> is it possible to flash your bios with linux??
[00:08] <ubuntu_> dont flash your bios bro its dangerous go to referrers page
[00:08] <semistud2354> i did it before...
[00:09] <Typos_King> semistud2354:   if the bios manufacturer provides the utility, I'd think so
[00:09] <semistud2354> i had windows on one hard drive
[00:09] <semistud2354> and linux on the other
[00:09] <semistud2354> i poped the windows one in and had at it...
[00:09] <semistud2354> it improved linux suspend and screen
[00:09] <semistud2354> brightness
[00:10] <semistud2354> ....is there like a way to install windows xp on a flash...
[00:10] <semistud2354> and boot from the flash?
[00:10] <semistud2354> update the bios...then delete
[00:10] <Typos_King> semistud2354:   http://www.linuxinsight.com/how-to-flash-motherboard-bios-from-linux-no-dos-windows-no-floppy-drive.html
[00:11] <semistud2354> i tryed that
[00:11] <semistud2354> nada
[00:11] <semistud2354> when i mounted fdeom.144 and burned to cd...
[00:11] <semistud2354> it wouldnt boot
[00:11] <joshua__> can someone tell me why i cna't send outgoing messages on kopete via yahoo
[00:12] <Typos_King> semistud2354:   http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/bios-flashing.html
[00:19] <joshua__> how come i can
[00:19] <joshua__> I can't open my second partition?
[00:20] <joshua__> it tells me org.freekesktop.hal.device.volume.premissiondenied
[00:23] <jechp> hello
[00:23] <jechp> im looking for support in Spanish
[00:27] <Typos_King> !es | jechp
[00:27] <jechp> tnks
[00:33] <wizkoder> I tried to install a package with dpkg which has unsolved dependencies. I do not want to install it anymore but when I want to install something else with apt-get I get the error again.
[00:34] <Typos_King> wizkoder:     sudo apt-get -f install;
[00:34] <Typos_King> to 'fix' install errors
[00:36] <wizkoder> Typos_King: But then he keeps installing the package, no?
[00:36] <Typos_King> no
[00:36] <Typos_King> tha'ts for fixing any installations
[00:37] <Typos_King> try it, see if you still get the errors
[00:38] <wizkoder> Typos_King: Now I installed it. Everything fine. But still wondering how I could have stopped the installation
[00:38] <Typos_King> how  you couuld have ... stoppedA?
[00:38] <Typos_King> stopped rather... no sure what that means :{
[01:19] <DoDi> hi
[01:19] <tekgeek> evening
[01:19] <DoDi> how do I uninstall software not listed in kpackagekit?
[01:22] <tekgeek> one thing I found on a site
[01:22] <tekgeek>  Re: how to uninstall programs/packages?
[01:22] <tekgeek> In a terminal, type:
[01:22] <tekgeek> sudo apt-get remove <package_name>
[01:22] <FloodBotK1> tekgeek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:23] <tekgeek> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156888
[01:27] <Typos_King> DoDi:    sudo apt-get remove PACKAGENAME;
[01:31] <DoDi> I've problems to figure out the package names (for fpc)
[01:32] <Typos_King> ok
[01:32] <Typos_King> well... what package are you trying to remove?
[01:32] <DoDi> fpc
[01:33] <Typos_King> ok then...just do
[01:33] <DoDi> it seems to consist of multiple packages
[01:33] <Typos_King> sudo apt-get remove fpc
[01:33] <Typos_King> easy enough, no?
[01:33] <DoDi> no such package :-(
[01:34] <DoDi> how can I get a list of installed packages, starting with "fp"?
[01:34] <Typos_King> then is not there :)
[01:34] <Typos_King> heeh
[01:35] <Typos_King> sure is called 'fpc'?
[01:35] <DoDi> the application is fpc
[01:35] <Typos_King> ok
[01:35] <Dragnslcr> DoDi- you can try using apt-cache search
[01:36] <Typos_King> then check for it with ->    apt-cache pkgnames | grep -i fpc
[01:36] <Typos_King> see if any pops up there on that list
[01:36] <Dragnslcr> DoDi- I think KPackageKit will list any packages that have been installed even if they aren't from a repository
[01:36] <DoDi> KPackageKit lists two fpc packages, but for *install*, not for uninstall
[01:37] <Typos_King> then check for it with ->    apt-cache pkgnames | grep -i fpc      <----
[01:37] <Typos_King> if it's not there, then it isn't there :}
[01:39] <DoDi> the list contains very many fp* packages, including fpc
[01:39] <Typos_King> ooook
[01:39] <Typos_King> then use that one you want removed :)
[01:39] <Typos_King> hehe
[01:39] <Typos_King> those are the packages installed
[01:40] <DoDi> remove fpc says: not installed, so not removed
[01:40] <Typos_King> right, so it isn't there then
[01:40] <Typos_King> or you're not using the proper package name
[01:41] <Typos_King> if the name is fpc-3cbed   so it's, isn't fpc, most include the version too in the name
[01:42] <DoDi> can I try an upgrade (this is what I really need)
[01:43] <DoDi> having an fpc... package on an ftp server - what's the best way to install it
[01:44] <DoDi> I have the choice of 1 rpm package, or about 20 deb packages
[01:44] <Typos_King> ... you can try the rpm and try to make it a .deb with 'alien'
[01:44] <Typos_King> otherwise you may have to do the 20 debs :}
[01:45] <Typos_King> then if the conversion goes well, install  the .deb manually :)
[01:47] <DoDi> I don't have the rights to install "alien"
[01:47] <Typos_King> heh
[01:47] <Typos_King> I guess you'll just have to get 'root' hehe
[01:47] <Typos_King> you can't sudo it?
[01:47] <Typos_King> alien is in the repos, sudo apt-get install alien;
[01:49] <DoDi> sudo kpackagekit seems to work :-)
[01:49] <Typos_King> hehe
[01:50] <DoDi> but don't ask me where I found "kapackagekit"
[01:51] <Typos_King> well
[01:52] <DoDi> where can I adjust the default font size?
[01:53] <DoDi> Dolphin has a nice font size, but most other applications use too big fonts
[01:53] <Typos_King> ... heh
[01:53] <Typos_King> system settings > look and feel > fonts
[01:54] <DoDi> and where applicable "reduce font size" does nothing (increase works)
[01:54] <Typos_King> you can maybe install extra fonts.... I installed quite a few I use on some apps, like Krusader uses Lucida Grande :)
[01:54] <Typos_King> font sizes are usually an app setting
[01:54] <DoDi> appearance > fonts
[01:55] <Typos_King> no a system wide setting per se.... so... not sure what you want to changer
[01:56] <DoDi> everything at 8 pt., seems not to be the right set
[01:57] <Typos_King> .. can't say.. .mine looks fine :)
[02:03] <DoDi__> tried 120 dpi, and the screens went all blank, had to reboot
[03:11] <tekgeek> anyone alive tonight?
[03:43] <Abcdqfr> Hello
[03:44] <Abcdqfr> Irc dead?
[03:45] <Abcdqfr> FloodBotK1: whats up?
[03:45] <Abcdqfr> FloodBotK2: Whats up 2?
[03:49] <wubba> I installed Nvidia drivers and now my box runs really slow.  So I resinstalled the OS (its a new box) and it runs fine until I install the Nvidia drivers.
[04:02] <MrUnagi> i just installed kubuntu on my hp dv6000t but i cant seem to get the wireless working
[04:02] <MrUnagi> it seems to be connected, but i cannot go to google.com
[04:02] <MrUnagi> or even the router
[04:20] <ubuntu> Hello
[04:20] <\Ahmed> Hello
[04:21] <\Ahmed> My Realteck sound card isnt working
[04:21] <\Ahmed> On Kubuntu
[04:21] <\Ahmed> But does works without KDE
[04:21] <\Ahmed> on Gnome
[04:37] <iggimin> Does WINE work in Kubuntu the same as in Gnome?
[04:38] <iggimin> I'm trying to duplicate what I just did in Ubuntu with Wine here in my Kubuntu install, but it's not working the same
[04:51] <iggimin> heheh, chatty channel here
[04:52] <DarkwingDuck> anyone have an idea how to fix a cmake issue with KDE4? http://pastebin.com/74iutXyq
[05:29] <okuriinu> hello
[05:29] <okuriinu> everyone
[05:30] <okuriinu> did anyone have a problem with a nvidia graphics card
[05:31] <james_l> I usually don't. I take it you do?
[05:33] <okuriinu> well doesnt actuivate
[05:33] <okuriinu> starts de download at 50%
[05:33] <okuriinu> stops
[05:33] <james_l> Hrm
[05:34] <james_l> Can't say I have much of an idea what that is. Try doing it from a terminal?
[05:37] <okuriinu> mm i tried but i am to much of a newbie
[05:37] <okuriinu> jejeje
[05:38] <Guest16044> I start the computer, and it shows it is loading with usplash but then it is just a black screen with a mouse pointer, what can I do?
[05:38] <okuriinu> did you know any good tutrial
[05:38] <okuriinu> i think i can read a do it
[05:39] <Guest16044> I NEED HELP CMON
[05:49] <Guest16044> how do i reinstall kde
[05:57] <okuriinu> thanks james it work from aptitude konsole
[06:01] <keneb01> Does ne1 know how to ge the border lines off the windows and the bottom of the screen?
[06:04] <keneb01> it looks like a fabric screen across the bottom
[06:04] <keneb01> ne ideas?
[06:07] <keneb01> I just finished loading tonight.  everything seems to work;printer and network
[06:09] <keneb01> i would appreciate the help
[06:10] <keneb01> thanks anyway
[06:24] <zabaglione> ZZZzzzzz
[06:38] <Speedy2> All, I have setup Karmic 9.10 and need to get the maintenance console.  Since I have not set a root password, I don't know how to get in.
[06:49] <steveness> how do I reinstall kde on kubuntu?
[06:55] <vram0> So I installed Kubuntu 9.10 for a relative who is now halfway across the world and has apparently forgotten their password.  I try to get them to try the instructions at: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword , but the "Drop to root shell prompt" option results in the system prompting for the root password.  I never explicitly set one on the installation -- how can I get them to the point of being able to reset their user account's password?
[06:56] <Unksi> vram0: does the "maintenance mode" in grub ask for password?
[06:58] <vram0> Unksi: no, just when the "Drop to root shell" option is selected.
[06:58] <Unksi> ok
[06:59] <Unksi> dont remember it asking for it last time i used it :/
[06:59] <vram0> I guess the root password is set to some scrambled thing?
[06:59] <vram0> by default
[06:59] <Unksi> yeah its an impossible value by default
[06:59] <vram0> Unksi: have you tried it on 9.10?
[06:59] <Unksi> which cant be typed with a keyboard
[06:59] <Unksi> yeah
[07:12] <vram0> Does anyone know if the recovery console root prompt should prompt for the root password if it has never been set/changed?
[07:13] <daskreech> it shudln't
[07:20] <Speedy2> daskreech: But it does.
[07:20] <daskreech> Speedy2: but it shoudln't I would put it down as an oversight
[07:21] <Speedy2> daskreech: So if one is in the sticky situation where you need recovery root console, and didn't set a root password, what are the sane options?
[07:22] <daskreech> and you have no live CD ?
[07:25] <Speedy2> daskreech: As luck would have it, the CDROM/DVDROM is broken (laptop) and I don't have a USB-CDROM to use.
[07:25] <daskreech> Do you have a USB ?
[07:25] <Speedy2> I tried to edit the recovery option in grub and chagne "ro single" to "init=/bin/bash" and that gave me a root console.  But using passwd didn't work
[07:26] <daskreech> Speedy2: did you give the route to passwd ?
[07:26] <daskreech> Speedy2: well you would have to mount the drive first :)
[07:26] <Speedy2> everything was mounted
[07:26] <Speedy2> I know about that.
[07:26] <Speedy2> i.e root filesystem is rw
[07:26] <daskreech> umm
[07:26] <daskreech> ok
[07:27] <Speedy2> i will try agani
[07:27] <Speedy2> again
[07:27] <daskreech> and you coudln't see passwd
[07:27] <daskreech> ?
[07:27] <Speedy2> passwd "worked" but when trying to save the new password, it gave me an error about updating the token database.
[07:27] <daskreech> ah ok
[07:28] <daskreech> you did a chroot?
[07:28] <Speedy2> No, just let it fall to the console
[07:28] <daskreech> Probably should chroot
[07:29] <Speedy2> let me try that
[07:29] <daskreech> ok
[07:30] <Speedy2> daskreech: Well, the root filesystem is already mounted by the system, normally you use chroot with a mount point...any suggestions?
[07:31] <daskreech> Speedy2: so the / is actually the / from the drive?
[07:31] <Speedy2> yes, because I have booted via the grub entry, except I changed "ro single" to "init=/bin/bash"
[07:31] <Speedy2> Is it an environment variable that needs to be set?
[07:33] <Speedy2> I also appeneded "init=/bin/bash" to the "ro single" line and that didn't help.
[07:34] <Speedy2> OK
[07:34] <Speedy2> Adding "rw init=/bin/bash" AFTER ro single worked!.
[07:35] <daskreech> :-)
[07:51] <ubuntu_> i am not able to boot into kubuntu
[07:51] <ubuntu_> i am getting "grub rescue>" and the boot
[07:51] <ubuntu_> can anyone help me please
[08:08] <Balsaq> has anyone installed kubuntu next to w7 on a new computer?
[08:09] <ubuntu_> Balsaq: i did install
[08:12] <Balsaq> beside w7?
[08:13] <Balsaq> i want to do it but dont think i have the skills yet...would need a play by play...i think...to pull it off
[08:13] <Balsaq> i burned kubuntu to a disk...
[08:13] <Balsaq> and ran it live with that cool plasma desktop
[08:14] <ubuntu> Balsaq: do you have more than one harddisk
[08:14] <Balsaq> nope
[08:14] <Balsaq> why will it mess up if we dual it?
[08:15] <Balsaq> i am a good installer..just not a dual booter yet
[08:16] <Balsaq> i noticed when i ran it live...it messed up my windows clock and date
[08:20] <ubuntu> Balsaq: i installed 2 bootloaders in 2 different hardisks and i select between the os by choosing which harddisk to boot first in the bios. i think there is a problem with grub2 bootloader
[08:21] <Balsaq> yeah i heard that...was hoping it was an operator error.
[08:49] <n8w> hey
[08:50] <n8w> ive installed several new screensavers from the repo,but they dont show up in the list(desktop setting)
[08:51] <n8w> anybody?
[08:51] <n8w> i mean ive installed it from the repo, therefore i should do any extra actions...so why dont they show up?
[08:56] <Balsaq> dod you reboot after the install?
[08:56] <Balsaq> did*
[08:57] <yaniyakov> good morning people :)
[08:57] <ubuntu> good morning
[08:58] <Balsaq> 358 am here
[08:58] <yaniyakov> :)
[08:58] <ubuntu> 2.30 pm here
[08:59] <yaniyakov> 10:58 am
[08:59] <yaniyakov> I`m from Bulgaria
[09:00] <ubuntu> i have to repair a corrupt partition can anyone help me
[09:01] <ubuntu> i have to repair a corrupt partition can anyone help me
[09:01] <yaniyakov> I`m sorry I can`t help you :(
[09:01] <ubuntu> ok
[09:01] <Balsaq> whats the matter wit hit
[09:01] <Balsaq> with it
[09:01] <Balsaq> use gparted or parted
[09:02] <ubuntu> gparted hangs when it starts reading the partitions
[09:03] <Balsaq> can you resize all of it and they reboot
[09:03] <Balsaq> it may change them all, even if only a little bit and save it and reboot
[09:03] <pitre> did you tried fdisk ?
[09:04] <Balsaq> change them all, even if only a little bit, save and reboot naybe
[09:04] <ubuntu> pitre: how to use fdisk
[09:04] <pitre> you need to open the terminal
[09:05] <pitre> then fdisk [disk name]
[09:06] <ubuntu> pitre: i have done that . when fdisk lists the partitions. i am able to find the required partition. but  when i try to mount the partition. i get an error
[09:07] <pitre> what kind of error do you get ?
[09:07] <ubuntu> pitre: i am not able to boot into my kubuntu, right now i am using a live cd
[09:07] <ubuntu> pitre: i will tell you the error
[09:09] <ubuntu> pitre: this is the error->http://paste.ubuntu.com/391613/
[09:11] <pitre> and what is the dmesg output
[09:11] <pitre> ?
[09:11] <n8w> Balsaq:  was that question: did u reboot? for me?
[09:12] <ubuntu> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb2,
[09:12] <ubuntu>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[09:12] <ubuntu>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[09:12] <ubuntu>        dmesg | tail  or so
[09:12] <FloodBotK1> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:12] <ikonia> ubuntu: calm down, and try to use one line to write your problem on
[09:14] <ubuntu> pitre: dmesg output->http://paste.ubuntu.com/391615/
[09:14] <Balsaq> n8w...looking back-yes it was
[09:15] <Balsaq> do it again n8w, make sure you "save" and reboot
[09:15] <Balsaq> not in buntu right noe though sorry....
[09:26] <gilbert> voiture
[09:37] <trijntje> Hi all, i'm looking for the "Add/Remove.." application that is used in the installation slideshow of Kubuntu, but I cant seem to find it
[09:37] <Torch> how do i get debug packages for kde 4.4.1 on karmic?
[09:40] <Vroomfondle> trijntje: just search for "add" in the menu
[09:42] <trijntje> Vroomfondle: ok, if thats the place to install programs ill file a bug agains te slideshow, I think they just copied the tekst for gnome
[09:43] <Vroomfondle> you can use that or kpackagekit
[09:43] <Vroomfondle> (kpackagekit's better if you know exactly what packages you're after)
[09:46] <trijntje> thanks for your help Vroomfondle
[09:47] <Vroomfondle> no problem
[10:00] <pitre> ubuntu: i had to go for a wlile
[10:01] <pitre> tell me please how did error happend ?
[10:04] <n8w_> can anyone tell me why i cant see any newly installed screensaver in the screensaver list?
[10:04] <n8w_> it keeps showin only those two default ones
[10:10] <n8w_> nobody?
[10:22] <jenny> hi everybody !
[10:30] <Balsaq> hi jenny
[10:38] <Balsaq> nw8 which version are you using?
[10:43] <Balsaq> sudo apt-get install xscreensaver xscreensaver-data xscreensaver-data-extra xscreensaver-gl xscreensaver-gl-extra
[10:43] <Oxymoron> Should grub2 in the boot menu say grub 1.97~experimental or 1.97~beta4 as it were before? :S
[10:43] <Balsaq> After it finishes installing, navigate to ~/.kde/Autostart/
[10:44] <Balsaq> create a file called xscreensaver.desktop   (n8w)
[10:45] <Oxymoron> And then, why get 2.6.31-9 come before 2.6.31-20 in the kernel list? And the latest kernel doesnt even work with nvidia, it says video buffer error and cannot stabilize screen output at all.
[10:45] <Balsaq> paste in the following five lines:
[10:45] <Balsaq> Code:
[10:45] <Balsaq> [Desktop Entry]
[10:45] <Balsaq> Exec=xscreensaver -nosplash
[10:45] <Balsaq> Name=XScreenSaver
[10:45] <FloodBotK1> Balsaq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:45] <Balsaq> Type=Application
[10:46] <Oxymoron> lol
[10:46] <Oxymoron> Way to go FloodBotK1 xD
[10:48] <Oxymoron> apachelogger: Any support people in here?
[10:49] <Oxymoron> Torch, Vroomfondle?
[10:52] <Oxymoron> NAyone?
[12:17] <[-Haza-]> Hey folks. is there a keyboard shortcut for KDE that... as far as i can see. turns off anti aliansing?
[12:17] <[-Haza-]> i went tp press ctrl+z and i think i pressed something like ctrl+shirt+z
[12:17] <[-Haza-]> and the graphics of my desktop now look a little jagged and fuzzy :s
[12:27] <[-Haza-]> nobody?
[12:51] <ubuntu_> HELLO
[12:52] <ubuntu_> Can anyone tell the me how to set the desktop KDE setting default
[12:52] <ahox> ubuntu_ you mean, how to reset your KDE Desktop to its default settings?
[12:52] <ubuntu_>  Yes yes exactly
[12:53] <ubuntu_> But not by clicking it it made the graphic slower
[12:53] <ubuntu_> Please suggest me the best configuration setting :) i have ATI's 1300MB
[12:53] <ubuntu_> delicated
[12:54] <ahox> ubuntu_ you may want to find out what precisely you want to reset. removing the .kde directory will sure work, however, this will remove everything kde related, including mails etc
[12:54] <fabio333> ubuntu_: what ati card
[12:54] <ahox> so did you play around with desktop effects?
[12:54] <ubuntu_> Yeah ATI card
[12:54] <ubuntu_> Yes but how to i do that
[12:54] <ubuntu_> Yeah actually i was :$
[12:54] <ahox> System settings, Desktop effect
[12:54] <ubuntu_> WAit let me see
[12:55] <ubuntu_> Yes now
[12:55] <ahox> Its System Settings / Desktop / Desktop Effects
[12:55] <ubuntu_> Yeah i am there, should i just click on Defaults /
[12:55] <ubuntu_> ?
[12:56] <ahox> deselect the enable desktop effects
[12:56] <ubuntu_> Okay
[12:56] <ubuntu_> Done
[12:56] <ubuntu_> Now ? it wont use the VRAM ?
[12:57] <ahox> Now the KDE desktop effects are disabled. See if this makes your system faster
[12:57] <ubuntu_> Looking smooth kinda but what's the best i need CUBE desktop changing and good application selecting
[12:58] <ubuntu_> No actaually it did made it faster but i mean its fine to use the full memory but i need in a proper way
[12:58] <ubuntu_> :)
[12:58] <ahox> OK, so now that we found out what caused the problems, lets try to fix it
[12:58] <ubuntu_> Oh
[12:58] <ubuntu_> Thanks
[12:59] <ubuntu_> It would be nice :) then
[12:59] <ahox> Enable desktop effects again
[12:59] <ubuntu_> Okay
[12:59] <ubuntu_> did
[12:59] <ahox> and then go to advanced and check your compositing type
[12:59] <ubuntu_> accepted configuration
[12:59] <ubuntu_> Yeah i am there
[12:59] <ahox> Which one do you have?
[12:59] <ubuntu_> Xrender
[13:00] <ahox> try opengl
[13:00] <ahox> Xrender is a software based renderer
[13:00] <ubuntu_> I see
[13:00] <ubuntu_> SO what do i do now, by opengl
[13:00] <ahox> click Apply
[13:01] <ahox> and see if it works
[13:01] <ubuntu_> Options are
[13:01] <ubuntu_> Yes its saying,
[13:01] <ubuntu_> SOme effects couldnt actived or something
[13:01] <ubuntu_> SHould i set it to  "shared memory" or where
[13:01] <ubuntu_> I mean OpenGL
[13:01] <ubuntu_> ?
[13:02] <ubuntu_> This thing is so smooth hhhhhhhh now
[13:02] <ahox> No, this some effects means that you have some plugins that are not compatbile with your current kde version
[13:02] <ubuntu_> Oh
[13:02] <ubuntu_> HOw do i download those then ?
[13:02] <ubuntu_> I will have the Kubuntu FULL in like day or two
[13:02] <ubuntu_> But i have updated this from ubuntu
[13:02] <ubuntu_> From trimial
[13:02] <ubuntu_> someone told me so
[13:02] <ubuntu_> :)
[13:02] <ahox> You could try to build kde from scratch, but you may not want to do that. Wait for Kubuntu to make the updates
[13:03] <ubuntu_> Aha i got it
[13:03] <ubuntu_> So what setting should i do here in Desktop effects ?
[13:03] <ubuntu_> Would look nice ?
[13:04] <ahox> ubuntu_ well, try them out. I personally don't like the desktop cube, I like the Present Windows, Desktop Grid and Box Switch
[13:04] <ahox> but just knock yourself out
[13:05] <ubuntu_> umm
[13:05] <ubuntu_> Okay :)
[13:05] <ubuntu_> SO isnt that option to set Shared memory to use or /
[13:05] <ubuntu_> disable ?
[13:05] <ahox> oh sorry, you where talking about the OpenGl mode, I think shared mem is the best
[13:06] <ubuntu_> Yes i just set it to that and kinda a lot better now !
[13:06] <ubuntu_> Thanks a lot
[13:06] <ubuntu_> :)
[13:06] <ubuntu_> Just the last thing
[13:06] <ubuntu_> Which desktop effects should i set would be best ? to see
[13:06] <ubuntu_> Lemme see what you read up there
[13:07] <ubuntu_> THANK GOODNESS its working so good
[13:07] <ubuntu_> :)
[13:07] <ubuntu_> A LOT FASTER hhhhhhhhhhhh
[13:07] <ahox> I gave you the ones I use, but this is really a personal opinion thing. Some people like a lot colorfull moving stuff, others like me want it simple...
[13:07] <ubuntu_> Yeah you can say i am one of them :$
[13:07] <ubuntu_> New on it so
[13:07] <ubuntu_> :)
[13:08] <ubuntu_> cause
[13:08] <ahox> yea sure, like I said, knock yourself out
[13:08] <ahox> and have fun
[13:08] <ubuntu_> many of the features wasnt working but when i set it to the shared memory its all working
[13:08] <ubuntu_> Yeah right
[13:08] <ubuntu_> WHere do i download updates ?
[13:08] <ubuntu_> so i can go on a bit
[13:08] <ubuntu_> :)
[13:08] <FloodBotK1> ubuntu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:09] <ubuntu_> hhhhhhhhh
[13:09] <ahox> ubuntu_, since you use kubuntu all your updates should come through ubuntu
[13:09] <nomad111> hey all, i can't seem to get any audio from youtube running in chrome or firefox
[13:10] <nomad111> what am i missing
[13:11] <ubuntu_> Okay thanks
[13:11] <ubuntu_> See you !
[13:11] <ubuntu_> :)
[13:11] <ahox> nomad111: I currently have the same problem on my home computer, and the only workaround I found so far is an sudo alsa force-reload . Phonon seems to grab the audio sink
[13:11] <ubuntu_> Actually C media realtek audio sound card isnt working on it but does works on Gnome
[13:11] <ahox> However, this is anything but the right way to do it(tm)
[13:11] <ubuntu_> :)
[13:11] <ubuntu_> ANy idea ? Ahox /
[13:11] <ubuntu_> ?
[13:11] <FloodBotK1> ubuntu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:12] <ahox> ubuntu_ like I said, your updates come semi automaticly through kubuntu
[13:12] <ahox> try to run kpackagekit and use the update function
[13:12] <ubuntu_> Yeah well umm
[13:12] <ubuntu_> Let me see
[13:12] <ubuntu_> Thanks a lot
[13:12] <ubuntu_> :)
[13:12] <nomad111> ahox: in my case that work around does not seem to work
[13:13] <ahox> nomad111: does konqueror work?
[13:14] <nomad111> ahox: sigh i need to install flash for konqueror
[13:14] <nomad111> i keep hearing a feint but annoying white noise in my headphones
[13:14] <nomad111> like they are not grounded or something
[13:15] <nomad111> but when some audio comes out from kde the white noise goes away momentarily
[13:17] <nomad111> ahox: is your kubuntu up to date
[13:34] <rmrfslash> Has anyone noticed that they cannot suspend their machine anymore w/o something crashing (kwin perhaps) in which case upon opening the lid they're at the login screen?
[13:34] <rmrfslash> this happened following the latest kernel upgrade
[13:34] <rmrfslash> 2.6.31-20-generic
[13:35] <rmrfslash> same video driver
[13:35] <rmrfslash> (catalyst 10.1)
[13:35] <ubuntu_> hello guys. pls help me out with this one: I formated my "Home" partition, but now I cannot boot again. Is there a way to restore my backup without reinstalling the OS?
[13:36] <yakusa35> hi all, new to the channel
[13:41] <Guest51219> he
[13:41] <Guest51219> hello
[13:41] <Guest51219> can somebody help me? i have a problem with my banshee media player, it always closes after one song..
[13:48] <ShadowKnight> hi, i have ubuntu. i was wondering if it was a good idea to be running kubuntu at the same time. and what are some of the advantages and drawbacks?
[13:48] <Vroomfondle> you can run them at the same time without any problems.
[13:49] <Vroomfondle> it's best to just do that and see for yourself - it's mostly a matter of taste
[13:50] <ShadowKnight> hmmm okay so how about this kdm and gdm, anything special with that? or it doesnt matter?
[13:50]  * Vroomfondle has both Kubuntu and Ubuntu packages installed (Kubuntu is my main environment; Ubuntu is a backup)
[13:50] <Vroomfondle> not really. Both KDM and GDM do the same thing from a suer's point of view.
[13:50] <Vroomfondle> they look a bit different but that's about the only obvious difference
[13:51] <ShadowKnight> hmmm okay. what do you mean ubuntu is a backup? like just in case your kubuntu fails one day?
[13:51] <Vroomfondle> yeah
[13:51] <ShadowKnight> hmmm okay then imma go try this out. i just download it from the synaptics manager?
[13:53] <Vroomfondle> ShadowKnight: yep. Kubuntu-desktop.
[13:53] <Vroomfondle> Then log out, and you should be able to choose "KDE" from the session menu in the login manager
[13:53] <ShadowKnight> hmmm okay then sounds easy lol, it says something about marking additional required changes. do i mark them all?
[13:54] <Vroomfondle> ShadowKnight: yeah
[13:54] <Vroomfondle> it'll install quite a lot of stuff. Might take a little while.
[13:55] <n8w_> what do i do in order to run this "echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" as a regular user?
[13:56] <ShadowKnight> okay thanks :)
[13:56] <Vroomfondle> n8w_: you could use chmod to change the permissions on drop_caches, but I think it'll reset when you reboot
[13:56] <Vroomfondle> as /proc/ is dynamic
[13:56] <n8w_> Vroomfondle:  aha...hmm
[13:56] <mika__> hi, does the network manager in the task bar working under kubuntu 9.10 with the system updated? I've upgraded to kde 4.3.5 but it doesn't work anymore
[13:56] <n8w_> Vroomfondle:  thx
[13:57] <mika__> (neither does network manager itself, i've always to do sudo dhclient -r && sudo dhclient in order to connect to the dhcp by eth0)
[13:57] <ShadowKnight> i was wondering actually. what are the major differences between kubuntu and ubuntu?
[13:58] <mika__> ShadowKnight: ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde.. that's the main difference
[13:58] <Vroomfondle> ShadowKnight: basically just the default software setup. Different desktop environment and different standard apps for mail, web browsing, CD burning etc.
[13:58] <mika__> (so apps too are different on both the systems.. though you can install by yourself if you want)
[13:59] <Vroomfondle> personally I use kubuntu but with various non-KDE applications installed as well (such as Thunderbird and Firefox)
[14:00] <ShadowKnight> so same type of software then?
[14:00] <ShadowKnight> can you use ubuntu applications? what are other non-kde applications?
[14:00] <Vroomfondle> you can use any Linux application
[14:00] <ShadowKnight> hmmm okay :)
[14:01] <Vroomfondle> they just might not look like they "fit" in an aesthetic sense with your desktop, but they'll work fine
[14:01] <ShadowKnight> lol thats not a problem
[14:01] <mika__> anyone knows about network manager?
[14:01] <ShadowKnight> thank you :) imma go try this out now. thanks :)
[14:02] <shadeslayer> mika__: yes
[14:03] <somekool> i there ! I have a friend I'd like to help with his Kubuntu 8.x. He is afraid of upgrading because of some hardware vs driver issues. but I'd like him to upgrade to KDE 4.4.1 any possitiblity to take recent packages?
[14:04] <mika__> shadeslayer: do you know why it doesn't work anymore with all the updates?
[14:04] <shadeslayer> mika__: which KDE version?
[14:04] <mika__> shadeslayer: with 4.3.3 it worked.. then i upgraded to 4.3.5 and it doesn't anymore
[14:06] <shadeslayer> mika__: hmm... what exactly do you mean by that its not working? is it the wifi?
[14:08] <mika__> shadeslayer: nope...since i've upgraded i cannot select anymore any connection (right click on the icon)... network manager itself doesn't work neither, it doesn't recognize the dhcp / any connection, and i've always to do a manual "dhclient -r && dhclient" at boot in order to have an ip
[14:08] <shadeslayer> mika__: so even ethernet is not working... wow
[14:09] <mika__> shadeslayer: i don't know if it's because of the upgrade or because i had setup a ppp connection with pppoeconfig and connect by pon dsl-provider (or something like that)
[14:09] <shadeslayer> mika__: hmm well i have a newer version of nm in a ppa,wanna try that one out? its much better
[14:11] <mika__> shadeslayer: ok
[14:11] <shadeslayer> mika__: https://launchpad.net/~apachelogger/+archive/ppa
[14:11] <mika__> shadeslayer: thanks
[14:13] <mika__> shadeslayer: a part of nm since i've upgraded i've flash which is working one time on ten... it shows gray boxes instead of the content.... but i see that's a bug of the current version, i should install it manually from the adobe site... and the audio of the microphone on skype has a lot of noise... but it worked before... :(
[14:13] <shadeslayer> mika__: hmm... well im on 4.4.1... didnt even bother about 4.3.5
[14:14] <shadeslayer> and on chromium everything works fine
[14:15] <mika__> shadeslayer: eheh... i moved from gentoo a week ago and for now ubuntu it's kinda a pain, a lot of dependencies which i'll never use, i don't know what's installed and half of the apps doesn't work :)
[14:16] <shadeslayer> mika__: hmm... well everything works for me here,i know thats not a excuse,but i really would recommend 4.4.1
[14:16] <shadeslayer> mika__: also which app doesnt run?
[14:17] <mika__> shadeslayer: i think i'll wait 10.4...
[14:17] <mika__> shadeslayer: strigi
[14:19] <shadeslayer> mika__: strigi isnt a app :P
[14:19] <mika__> shadeslayer: a daemon if you prefer :)
[14:19] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[14:19] <shadeslayer> mika__: more of a file indexer
[14:19] <shadeslayer> mika__: whats the error in strigi?
[14:20] <mika__> still in the desktop search of kde it say that the service failed to initialise, most likely due to an installation problem
[14:20] <shadeslayer> mika__: ah.. you have to install virtuoso then
[14:21] <shadeslayer> mika__: more paticularly : virtuoso-nepomuk
[14:21] <shadeslayer> *particularly
[14:23] <mika__> shadeslayer: mmm..ok
[14:23] <mika__> shadeslayer: which there isn't in the repo.. :)
[14:24] <shadeslayer> mika__: there is :)
[14:24] <shadeslayer> mika__: oh it might be due to the fact that i have 4.4.1
[14:25] <mika__> yes.. here there is just one result for nepomuk,which are the bindings for cli
[14:32] <tdn> I have enabled Kopetex plugin, but when I type $$2+2$$, a blank message appears. Nothing is rendered.
[14:34] <n8w_> i wanna chnge permissions to drop_caches,but when i run(us su) :chmod 755 drop_caches i get this: ***chmod: changing permissions of `drop_caches': Operation not permitted***
[14:35] <n8w_> i mean i run it as su...but i keepin gettin "operation not permitted"
[14:46] <JuanMarquez> hi, kubuntu not have partition tools
[14:47] <kubuntu> JuanMarquez: install gparted
[14:47] <JuanMarquez> ok
[14:48] <kubuntu> can anyone help me , for my live cd error?
[14:49] <Vroomfondle> what error?
[14:50] <genii> n8w_: If this is for a vm you may have better luck asking in #ubuntu-server
[14:50] <kubuntu> x.org not start automatically.... i should run startx to get it
[14:51] <kubuntu> Vroomfondle: live cd not start in graphical mode
[14:53] <vbgunz> any konqueror gurus here?
[14:54] <vbgunz> when you split konqueror, there is a small checkbox in the lower right of a split. you click it and there is a chain. what does this do?
[15:04] <mefisto__> vbgunz: it makes both panes follow each other
[15:04] <kubuntu> Vroomfondle: do you know how to fix it.... i use custom live cd
[15:06] <kubuntu> Vroomfondle: it is madde by me
[15:06] <genii> Hmm "custom" livecd and no X ...
[15:06] <vbgunz> mefisto__: I am finding it very confusing on 3 splits
[15:06] <vbgunz> might make sense for 2
[15:06] <kubuntu> genii: hmm, yup
[15:07] <genii> kubuntu: How did you remaster the cd?
[15:09] <kubuntu> genii: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872&page=2...
[15:09] <genii> kubuntu: OK, let me scour it
[15:09] <kubuntu> genii: this thread gives instructions how to do that
[15:12] <BenceF> hi. my friend has kubuntu and he got a message (from apt i presume) that package cache could not be opened
[15:12] <ivan_> hallo
[15:12] <BenceF> is that a local cache?
[15:12] <Vroomfondle> BenceF: that's /var/apt/cache
[15:12] <kubuntu> ivan_: hello
[15:13] <Vroomfondle> it's where package files are stored after they are downloaded
[15:13] <Vroomfondle> erm, I mean /var/cache/apt
[15:13] <BenceF> Vroomfondle: and how could we reset it, so it can be read
[15:14] <Vroomfondle> BenceF: he's using sudo, right?
[15:14] <genii> kubuntu: Does it dump you to command-prompt (like busybox ) or try then fail gui startup?
[15:15] <ivan_> am just trying to find some leasons/tips on using the terminal
[15:15] <ivan_> and how to control the network
[15:15] <BenceF> Vroomfondle: it came through KPackageKit
[15:16] <Vroomfondle> BenceF: check that it asked him for his password, just in case there's a bug in kpackagekit which is making it fail to ask for admin rights
[15:16] <BenceF> ok
[15:16] <Vroomfondle> otherwise, check that /var/cache/apt actually exists and is readable by root
[15:16] <kubuntu> genii: no it works fine after command startx
[15:17] <Vroomfondle> !aptfix | BenceF
[15:17] <Vroomfondle> ^^ might be worth doing that too
[15:17] <kubuntu> genii: i cant undstand the error.... kdm ????
[15:17] <Vroomfondle> just in case it's actually a side-effect of the common apt lock problem
[15:17] <kubuntu> genii: do you kno the reason for that?
[15:18] <genii> kubuntu: Since it is a home-made disc, it's very difficult to tell what part might be failing.
[15:18] <BenceF> ahhh sound reasonable
[15:18] <Vroomfondle> ivan_: just ask your questions and if we know the answer we'll tell you :)
[15:19] <kubuntu> genii: interesting fact is.... when i install the system using live cd... it is working without a problem...
[15:19] <kubuntu> genii:  no need to enter a startx for the system boot from the hard
[15:20] <nomad111> hey all, is anyone using kde 4.4.1
[15:21] <ivan_> how do I get updates?
[15:23] <shadeslayer> ivan_: the gui way or the cli way?
[15:23] <ivan_> the gui way
[15:23] <shadeslayer> ivan_: press alt+F2 and type kpackagekit or just kpack
[15:24] <ivan_> thanks
[15:25] <ivan_> and the cli way?
[15:25] <shadeslayer> ivan_: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:26] <shadeslayer> !update | ivan_ : also see this
[15:26] <ivan_> thank you!!!!
[15:27] <kubuntu> genii: help me!!!
[15:27] <shadeslayer> kubuntu: whats the issue?
[15:28] <genii> kubuntu: Please have patience. I'm at work right now and assisting as i have time to. Also your issue is complicated because of the steps you took to make your custom CD plus which part of the gui startup is failing ( apparently kdm?)
[15:29] <kubuntu> shadeslayer: custom live cd
[15:29] <shadeslayer> kubuntu: oh... cant help there :)
[15:29] <kubuntu> genii: ok... yup i think kdm
[15:29] <genii> shadeslayer: Work is requiring me right now actually.. I can be back in 4-5 minutes if you want to tackle it
[15:31] <shadeslayer> genii: um i dont have that level of expertiese :)
[15:31] <shadeslayer> *expertise
[15:32] <n8w_> shadeslayer:  hey:)
[15:34] <n8w_> how do i change permissions to drop_caches?chmod 755 doesnt work...
[15:35] <kubuntu> no one can help me.... :-(
[15:35] <n8w_> or how do i execute echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches as a regular user?
[15:37] <thesteo82> Hi guys, to work off the kde trunk i need QT 4.6. is there a safe way of upgrading kubuntu from 4.5?
[15:39] <shadeslayer> n8w_: hi
[15:39] <shadeslayer> n8w_: you cant i think
[15:40] <n8w_> shadeslayer:  ye i though so....
[15:40] <shadeslayer> n8w_: chmod 755 should have done the trick though
[15:40] <n8w_> shadeslayer:  well it doesnt work for me...
[15:40] <shadeslayer> hold a sec
[15:40] <n8w_> shadeslayer:  it says chmod: changing permissions of `drop_caches': Operation not permitted
[15:41] <n8w_> shadeslayer:  n fcourse im runin "su"
[15:41] <shadeslayer> n8w_: hmm try 777
[15:41] <n8w_> shadeslayer:  the same
[15:42] <genii> kubuntu: I'm back for a few minutes now. I think the best way you will get help is to post to the forum thread where you found the instructions. For someone here to really help they have to basically also build their own custom cd using the same instructions you did, etc etc. Best to just approach the original author directly through the forum thread.
[15:42] <n8w_> shadeslayer:  its toaly weird, it doesnt let me to do anythin with that file
[15:43] <shadeslayer> n8w_: yeah
[15:43] <kubuntu> genii: hmmm... bt it is slw response.........
[15:43] <genii> n8w_: I already suggested that you visit the #ubuntu-server channel for help with the vm  drop_caches file, they will know more about it than most people in here would. Haven't seen you in there yet however.
[15:45] <n8w_> genii:  ive asked in #ubuntu ...i didnt get your msg last time then
[15:45] <n8w_> genii:  otherwise i would have gone there....
[15:45] <shadeslayer> n8w_: #ubuntu-server , not #ubuntu :0
[15:46] <n8w_> shadeslayer:  ye i know...
[15:46] <shadeslayer> genii: one of my friends wants to install a GUI on ubuntu server,can that be accomplished via sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:46] <shadeslayer> ( yeah dont ask )
[15:46] <ivan_> can you get fifa (game) on linux and if so, how?
[15:47] <genii> shadeslayer: Yes, any of the *buntu-desktop meta-packages will install some desktop
[15:47] <shadeslayer> ivan_: you can run it under wine probably
[15:47] <shadeslayer> !wine | ivan_
[15:47] <shadeslayer> !appdb | ivan_ : youll also need this :
[15:48] <genii> shadeslayer: However, if he does that he will be running a gui desktop with a -server kernel, stuff like restricted modules for video, soundcard, etc may be only available for -generic kernel and not -server
[15:49] <ivan_> ok
[15:50] <somekool> Hi there ! I have a friend I'd like to help with his Kubuntu 8.x. He is afraid of upgrading because of some hardware vs driver issues. but I'd like him to upgrade to KDE 4.4.1 any possitiblity to use recent packages?
[15:54] <shadeslayer> genii: ok..
[15:55] <shadeslayer> genii: idk why he installed the server edition when i explicitly told him it was all cli
[15:56] <arch0njw> somekool:  he should lookup the devices in compatibility lists to see if they are supported.
[15:56] <arch0njw> somekool: another option is for him to wait for the 10.04 release so he will be upgrading to an LTS release.  Those are usually a little more robust from what I've seen.
[15:57] <arch0njw> somekool: but the key to any questions about support of devices is to look them up.
[16:01] <genii> !hcl
[16:02] <arch0njw> what is all this stuff with preceding things with an exclamation point?  I see !hcl !WINE and such.  Is that just a joke a bout "not <something>" or is that an IRC thing?
[16:02] <BenceF> its for the bot
[16:02] <BenceF> to give help
[16:02] <genii> arch0njw: The exclamation mark is a trigger for the bot to try and look up what comes after it to see if someone has added a factoid about that
[16:03] <arch0njw> okay.  thank you.  I'll pester google with more niggly questions about that ;)
[16:04] <shadeslayer> genii: hehe.... HCL is actually a company here :P
[16:04] <genii> shadeslayer: :)
[16:21] <\Ahmed> Hello
[16:22] <\Ahmed> How to find TRASH in Kubuntu ? instead of clicking undo delete
[16:22] <shadeslayer> \Ahmed: Just open dolphin
[16:22] <thesteo82> is there any sign of kubuntu going to use qt 4.6?
[16:23] <shadeslayer> thesteo82: it already does
[16:23] <thesteo82> really? mine is at 4.5
[16:23] <fabio666> mine is 4.6
[16:23] <shadeslayer> thesteo82: http://paste.ubuntu.com/391879/
[16:23] <thesteo82> ah ok, i installed it two weeks ago, must need to update
[16:23] <\Ahmed> Will anyone tell me where's trash ?
[16:23] <\Ahmed> hhhhhhhhhhh
[16:23] <fabio666> 4.6.2
[16:24] <fabio666> \Ahmed -> ~/.local
[16:24] <\Ahmed> Lemme see
[16:24] <fabio666> then cd share
[16:25] <fabio666> even trash: in the dolphin bar
[16:25] <thesteo82> i have kde 4.3.5
[16:26] <\Ahmed> Is this right /home/ubuntu/.local/share/Trash  cause i can see all these, Are these files in TRASH ? beside my files
[16:26] <n8w_> how do i use sudo in a bash script?
[16:26] <n8w_> if i need to run some command in bash file as su,how do i write it?
[16:29] <fabio666> <thesteo82: time to upgrade to 4.4.1
[16:29] <somekool> arch0njw: i wont be able to convince him to upgrade. that's why my question was about using recent KDE 4.4 packages on 8.x
[16:29] <thesteo82> fabio666: think so, im on the case now
[16:30] <binarylooks> n8w_: you could ydd your user to the sudoers file plus only the command you want to run. just a suggestion
[16:31] <arch0njw> somekool:  I don't think I would try using KDE4 on 8.x.  I suppose it would be possible, but so is driving a 10p nail through a concrete block using your pinky-finger.  Patience and pain... and patience.  :D
[16:31] <n8w_> binarylooks:  heh im just workin on it:)))
[16:31] <n8w_> binarylooks:  but the file is kinda confusin to me
[16:31] <somekool> wel, he run 4.2, there is no reason 4.4 would not work
[16:31] <arch0njw> somekool:  besides, 9.10 and the upcoming 10.04 are so shiny and pretty... and shiny... and did I mention pretty?  Oh, and there's that little detail about the newer version of the kernel ;)
[16:31] <somekool> or maybe is he still under 4.1
[16:32] <arch0njw> somekool:  IIRC it would be 4.1
[16:32] <binarylooks> n8w_: I used it once, but you are right about the confusion part. toko me half an hour to figure it out
[16:33] <arch0njw> somekool:  So I'll revise my statement about KDE4 and say KDE 4.4 -- which works beautifully on 9.10, a la the backports.
[16:36] <Guest11888> i install ubuntu from terminal but now how i uninstall kubuntu from ubuntu ?
[16:36] <\Ahmed> Guest1188
[16:37] <\Ahmed> try doing it by terminal
[16:37] <\Ahmed> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[16:37] <\Ahmed> Use this command
[16:37] <\Ahmed> :)
[16:37] <\Ahmed> and type password
[16:37] <\Ahmed> and there it is
[16:37] <\Ahmed> :)
[16:37] <FloodBotK1> \Ahmed: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:37] <\Ahmed> Wait for the download
[16:37] <BenceF> \Ahmed: he wats to remove it
[16:38] <Guest11888> \Ahmed i know but what the comma sudo apt-get uninstall kubuntu-destop ?
[16:38] <BenceF> man apt-get
[16:39] <BenceF> sorry im not too leet on apt, cuase im not on debian or ubuntu
[16:40] <BenceF> !uninstall
[16:40] <Guest11888> okok :P maybe its remove
[16:41] <BenceF> sudo apt-get --purge remove
[16:41] <BenceF> if you dont want to remove config files just use remove
[16:42] <BenceF> without --purge
[16:43] <Guest11888> ok
[16:43] <BenceF> yw
[16:46] <ubuntu_> Will anyone tell me how to turn off those Kopete notifications on every new message ? iits annoying really
[16:46] <Guest11888> thanks
[16:47] <ubuntu_> :)
[16:47] <rork> ubuntu_: Kopete > Settings > Configure Notifications, Select Incomming message in active chat, deselect show a message in a pop-up
[16:49] <ubuntu_> Where is configure notifications ?
[16:49] <BenceF> meanwhile we solved our problem as well. we ran sudo apt-get update  and it removed the lock
[16:49] <BenceF> thanks for the help. bye all
[16:49] <somekool> arch0njw: i am running 4.4.1 under 9.10 and it does work beautifully. but I was asking if I could get those packages to work under 8.x but anyway, ....
[16:49] <rork> ubuntu_: in the settings menu, 4th from the bottom
[16:50] <ubuntu_> Actually i am at ACCOUNTS where i have set two workings msn accounts
[16:50] <ubuntu_> where do i click now
[16:50] <ubuntu_> :)
[16:50] <ubuntu_> i couldnt find it
[16:50] <FloodBotK1> ubuntu_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:51] <rork> ubuntu_: go to the contactslist
[16:51] <ubuntu_> Okay then
[16:53] <rork> ubuntu_: In the menubar under settings, isn't configure notification listed?
[16:54] <urgey> !arch0njw
[16:54] <ubuntu_> Yes there is
[16:54] <ubuntu_> I clicked
[16:54] <n8w_> whats the command for printin into console in a bash script?echo?
[16:55] <ubuntu_> BRB
[16:56] <PeterFA> I'm trying to build wine.  However, when I run the configure script it chokes and says that the compiler cannot make executables. The config.log shows that ld has an issue with an .so file belonging to gcc.
[16:56] <PeterFA> How do I fix this?
[17:00] <arch0njw> somekool:  I would expect 4.t to run nicely on 9.10.  4.4 is pretty darn awesome.  Every release of KDE4 has had great improvements.  I wasn't so fond of it at first, but now I love it.
[17:00] <urgey> [17:01] <arch0njw> Oooh... I'm an enigma!
[17:01] <urgey> or did you mean !enigma
[17:01] <ubuntu_> Back
[17:01] <ubuntu_> Oh well :)
[17:01] <arch0njw> urgey:  nyuk nyuk nyuk nyuk
[17:01] <somekool> arch0njw:  how is nepomuk & akonadi working for you ?
[17:02] <ubuntu_> please how do i turn off that i am at configue accounts
[17:02] <arch0njw> somekool:  they are teh borked right now :(  But those have been fixed and should be working in the next point release of 4.4
[17:02] <rork> ubuntu_: it's in the configure notifications window
[17:02] <ubuntu_> Yes and where that is i am talking to someone is it on the same window ?
[17:03] <arch0njw> somekool:  I don't actively use those, so I haven't missed their functionality (yet?)
[17:03] <rork> ubuntu_: you'll see a list with actions, among those is "Incomming message in active chat"
[17:04] <rork> ubuntu_: select that one, then below "Show a notification in a pop-up "is activate, deselect it in save
[17:04] <ubuntu_> Are you talking about system tray or on kopete ?
[17:05] <rork> ubuntu_: kopete
[17:06] <ubuntu_> Okay now i am talking to a friend, do i have click configure on the same window ?
[17:07] <rork> ubuntu_: no, it should be a global setting
[17:07] <ubuntu_> WHere do i click to go there i mean cant really find it, I am not that bad at computers !
[17:08] <rork> ubuntu_: http://www.rork.nl/tmp/kopete.png
[17:08] <rork> ubuntu_: hope that helps
[17:08] <ubuntu_>  I am on events and it says
[17:09] <R33D3M33R> oh hi rork :D
[17:09] <ubuntu_> Use a single notification from the same contact
[17:09] <R33D3M33R> what a strange place to meet :D
[17:09] <ubuntu_> hahah yeah man !
[17:10] <rork> ubuntu_: which version of Kopete do you use?
[17:11] <ka__> I have 3 blocked updates in Kubuntu 10.04 after doing and initial upgrade. One of them is an upgrade to the nouveau driver. Which possibli could fix the display on my monitor,. How do I force these packages to install. I have tried apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:11] <ubuntu_> Thanks
[17:11] <ubuntu_> I am using the latest
[17:12] <ubuntu_> I have no idea there's no such thing as configuer notifications in the main window where you see online contacts
[17:13] <rork> ubuntu_: I'm using 0.80.2 on KDE 4.3.2, but can't imagine why they changed this
[17:14] <rork> ubuntu_: I don't seem to have something called "events" though, sorry
[17:15] <sithlord48> can any one tell me if the install disk for lucid alpha can resize a partition(if not i can just use parted)
[17:17] <ubuntu_> Yeah thanks Rork
[17:17] <ubuntu_> :)
[17:20] <ubuntu_> WHy ubuntu is just 700MB and Install Kubuntu on Ubuntu Gnome is just like 120 MB and the 64 bit DVD is 3.4GB ? around that WHY ?
[17:22] <slow-motion> hi
[17:24] <ubuntu_> hi
[18:13]  * genii makes more  coffee
[18:25] <maxtor> Hi there i have a 3gb iso image on xubuntu that i cant delete
[18:26] <maxtor> it keeps trying to send it to the bin
[18:26] <maxtor> but it says the bin is full
[18:26] <maxtor> even tho its empty
[18:26] <llutz> maxtor: df -h /home
[18:27] <genii> maxtor: This is the Kubuntu support channel.... but you can always try at commandline to just use rm on it
[18:27] <maxtor> i used that command line
[18:27] <maxtor> it gave some info
[18:27] <maxtor> on the drives
[18:27] <llutz> maxtor: what info?
[18:28] <maxtor> can i paste
[18:28] <maxtor> its 2 lines
[18:28] <llutz> last line
[18:28] <maxtor> /dev/sda1             9.0G  7.9G  703M  92% /
[18:28] <llutz> 703MB free, so not enough space for 3G file in trash, rm it manually
[18:29] <maxtor> how do i do that
[18:29] <maxtor> sorry
[18:29] <llutz> rm file.img
[18:30] <maxtor> nice one!
[18:30] <maxtor> thanks
[18:48] <eristikophiles> so i'm wondering what the difference is between the netbook remix and regular for 9.10
[18:49] <eristikophiles> ..what i've noticed so far is that there is a confusing absence of panel config or the K menu
[18:49] <benjazia> bonjour a tous
[18:51] <somekool> arch0njw: I was not using them either and had nepomuk disabled. but akonadi got enabled by default and its starting everytime I launch kontact. and now I also have a new virtuoso-t process taking 100M+ of ram
[18:53] <marcostxc> oi
[18:53] <arch0njw> somekool:  no such virtuoso-t here.  but, yes, it is a little annoying that every time I start kontact I get the akonadi gripe.  I look forward to the fix.
[18:55] <eristikophiles> bleh i think i need to get the normal version
[18:55] <eristikophiles> this is just going to keep bugging me, maybe i'll switch in April
[19:04] <somekool> arch0njw: also, under 4.3 I had nepomuk disabled but now other stuff complains at startup saying its turned off
[19:05] <somekool> not so bad, considering everything else is excellent
[19:05] <somekool> but ...
[19:32] <Gecko> So, I need some help running firefox in kde. Is there any guide available? I found the kubuntu+firefox repository, but it didn't seem to improve much. Most file associations are still the gnome ones, and I would like it to stop switching to the active virtual desktop when I open a link from Konsole... Any advice?
[19:40] <arch0njw> somekool: for me, the only thing that complains about akonadi is kontact.  Nothing complains about Nepomuk anymore, which I have turned off. Here's hoping that the next point rev of 4.4 brings harmony back to this.  :)
[19:54] <somekool> arch0njw: lets hope, there is one close to every month
[19:59] <slow-motion> n8
[20:21] <djustice> there arent many kubuntu specific coders...
[20:21] <djustice> liek 10 or so... and they watch more tv/game/music-foo more than code...
[20:21] <Pici> o.O
[20:27] <srdjan> ugh.
[20:29] <srdjan> alt-f2 >- firefox -> press run. Full screen comes up. Says do i want to install firefox. I say install. Then it does something and then says it's already installed.
[20:29] <srdjan> What am I supposed to do now?
[20:32] <Guest97413> Hello, I was on desktop setting i made some changes to openGL and next to shared memory, and now the screen one black on kubuntu and i am on Gnome
[20:32] <Guest97413> ANy help ? safe mode so i can change the setting back
[20:33] <ionut> does anyone knows an messanger that supports yahoo and webcam
[20:34] <Guest97413> ionut: Try Kopete
[20:34] <Guest97413> Or
[20:34] <Guest97413> I have no idea at the moment, (New here)
[20:34] <ionut> Guest97413: or ?
[20:34] <Guest97413> :)
[20:34] <ionut> ok
[20:34] <ionut> tn
[20:34] <ionut> x
[20:34] <FloodBotK1> ionut: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:34] <Guest97413> It's all right
[20:34] <srdjan> last time i tried kopete, it supported yahoo and webcam, but could not do anything with the webcam besides watching myself
[20:35] <Guest97413> Well i dont use yahoo i use msn and i guess all i can see is myself so some times i switch back to WIndows7 for a while i got Dual Booting
[20:35] <Guest97413> HUH
[20:35] <srdjan> I think a slackware -> kubuntu transition might be rough
[20:35] <Guest97413> slackware ?
[20:36] <srdjan> yup
[20:36] <srdjan> though actually slamd64
[20:36] <Guest97413> What are you talking about ?
[20:36] <srdjan> Guest97413: you must be new then :)
[20:37] <Guest97413> I wasn't talking to you in Hebrew :$ yeah i am
[20:37] <Guest97413> second day
[20:37] <Guest97413> :)
[20:37] <srdjan> ahh :)
[20:37] <Guest97413> umm
[20:37] <Guest97413> Sorry don't mind :)
[20:37] <srdjan> Guest97413: Slackware is the oldest living Linux distribution
[20:38] <Guest97413> And what is that used for ?
[20:38] <srdjan> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slackware    it's used for using linux. you know. browsing intternet, palying games, listening to music. doing work etc.
[20:39] <Guest97413> Browser ? or what really, or lets say EXPLORER.EXE in windows?
[20:39] <Guest97413> Yes this
[20:39] <Guest97413> I can't see the desktop anymore with
[20:39] <Guest97413> and after login all i gets a blank screen
[20:40] <srdjan> yeah i have something similar with a fresh install of Kubuntu 8.10 on my laptop
[20:40] <Guest97413> Well
[20:40] <srdjan> managed to boot it once, then bam! and it's no longer displaying x11
[20:40] <Guest97413> haha !
[20:40] <Guest97413> Too bad
[20:40] <srdjan> no VTs either
[20:40] <Guest97413>  OH
[20:41] <Guest97413> Hey what do i do now to get that KDE desktop back ?
[20:41] <Guest97413> i mean i gotta try in safe mode but how ?
[20:42] <srdjan> there's no safe mode
[20:42] <Guest97413> Oh GREAT
[20:42] <Guest97413> That means  i gotta reinstall it
[20:42] <Guest97413> ?
[20:42] <Guest97413> :)
[20:42] <srdjan> or you could debug it
[20:42] <Guest97413> HOw ?
[20:42] <srdjan> well can you ssh in?
[20:43] <srdjan> or do the VTs work?
[20:43] <Guest97413> VTS ?
[20:43] <srdjan> virtual terminals
[20:43] <srdjan> ctrl-alt-f1
[20:45]  * srdjan updates packages and then will start to figure out if the proprietory nvidia blob is required
[20:46] <ubuntu> Back
[20:46] <ubuntu> I pressed that ctrl alt f1 and
[20:46] <ubuntu> hhhhhhhhhhhh
[20:47] <ubuntu> i mean right now i did what do i do with that now
[20:47] <srdjan> can you see letters and words?
[20:47] <ubuntu> Yeah
[20:48] <ubuntu> asked for user name and password
[20:48] <ubuntu> When should i press those keys ?
[20:48] <srdjan> whenever you feel like it. but you can use that to login...
[20:49] <ubuntu> AT that login page ?
[20:49] <ubuntu> ANd will i have all the setting of KDE ?
[20:49]  * srdjan is confused
[20:50] <ubuntu> No i mean will i get to recover it by logging in like with those keys ?
[20:50] <ubuntu> cause i can access the Gnome's desktop
[20:50] <ubuntu> so from KDE i am back at Gnome :) ah
[20:52] <illio> I'm having trouble with KDE on Kubuntu.. I have a Trust Predator mouse where the scroll is acting funny in all parts of KDE. I can scroll I guess, but it often times "jumps" as in if I scroll down, it jumps a bit up again half-way and then scrolls correctly again.. It's a bit hard to explain, but I'm hoping someone else has had the same kind of problem?
[20:52] <RedXIII> Is there a kubuntu "beginners guide", official for karmic koala
[20:52] <srdjan> illio: reminds me of the x11 issue with a misconfigured mouse
[20:52] <RedXIII> I'm finding a lot of stuff I'm googling to be for 7.0
[20:53] <ubuntu> hahaha
[20:53] <ubuntu> man
[20:53] <ubuntu> lemme try brb
[20:53] <srdjan> illio: as in a mouse that was PS2 but was set in config as a IMPS2
[20:56] <penocio> in an gsm and gps module to be used for purpose of tracking a vehicle. the coordination instructions between the gps and gsm (gps sending its location to gsm and gsm sending it to another gsm by sms) or other fuctions like theft alarm sms, battery low. etc. is configured in a controller? if yes. is the controller configuration done by computer is open source? can it be coppied to build another controler same like it ?
[20:58] <illio> srdjan, It's a USB mouse.. I basically just plugged it in and made no attempts to configure it..
[20:59] <srdjan> illio: it could be that xorg has selected the wrong driver for it
[20:59] <srdjan> or it might be some exotic hardware :(
[21:01] <illio> srdjan, It's a Trust GM-4200 Gamer Optical Mouse
[21:02] <srdjan> hmm my dad had a trust mini mouse and that never really worked in linux
[21:03] <illio> srdjan, Perhaps that's just it.. The driver not supporting it properly :-)
[21:03] <srdjan> you could always take a look at /var/log/xorg.* and see if it detects the mouse as a weird device
[21:04] <DarkwingDuck> illio: http://hardware4linux.info/component/36716/
[21:04] <illio> DarkwingDuck, Thanks
[21:04] <DarkwingDuck> :)
[21:04] <illio> srdjan, Thanks.. I'll do that
[21:08] <RedXIII_> I just tried to add some widget in my kde4 and my desktop screen went completely black
[21:08] <RedXIII_> how do I get it back?
[21:14] <ubuntu_> good afternoon to you all i really need help i have kubuntu8.04 and i did remove libasound2 but the system reove also some other packages> kdebase-bin kdebase-bin-kde3 and some others then i restarted my pc and it ot stuck on a shell mode so i manage to reinstall those packages and the system seems to be recover but after the login screen i hit enter and i goes to a blue screen and stuck there can someboy help me to get back the system please____
[21:14] <ubuntu_> ??
[21:15] <WaltzingAlong> ubuntu_: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh; sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[21:15] <ubuntu_> excenlent
[21:15] <ubuntu_> txs
[21:15] <ubuntu_> >P
[21:17] <ubuntu_> be back txs
[21:35] <paul___> Hello
[21:35] <paul___> Hi all
[21:49] <awaad> I installed ubuntu and I installed the KDE GUI after some time, but when I login to the kde I find only the pointer of the mouse and a blackscreen
[21:49] <awaad> How can I get over this problem
[21:49] <awaad> ??
[21:51] <awaad> Any one can help please ?
[21:52] <Typos_King> awaad:    what's your inquiry again?
[21:52] <Kolia> awaad: are you sure the update was completed?
[21:52] <awaad> Kolia: Yes
[21:53] <awaad> Typos_king: I installed kde under ubuntu and I had a black screen when I try to login to the KDE
[21:53] <awaad> Typos_king: How can I solve this problem ?
[21:54] <Kolia> awaad: can you login? or do you get the black screen instead of the login screen?
[21:54] <Typos_King> what about any other session?
[21:55] <awaad> Typos_king: gnome works very good with no problem ( just the pointer shape of the kde pointer came to gnome without any logical reason)
[21:55] <awaad> Kolia: I can login but after login I find the black screen
[21:56] <Typos_King> awaad:    and you installed 'kubuntu-desktop' package?
[21:57] <Typos_King> seems to me, you installed 'something' kde component wise.... dunno what that might have been, assuming it was a full package with no missing dependencies
[21:58] <awaad> Typos_king: so how can I solve this problem ?
[21:59] <Typos_King> awaad:    by removing firstly what installed, and retrying to install 'kubuntu-desktop' package
[21:59] <awaad> Typos_king: I am removing all packages that have a prefix of kde now
[21:59] <Kolia> awaad: how did you install kde?
[22:00] <clustermagnet> guys... is it a known issue... that after some time of kde4 running... the pasting does not work as expected....
[22:00] <awaad> Kolia: I opened the synaptic package manager and installed the kde from it following a tutorial which I found on the internet
[22:00] <Typos_King> awaad:   the fact a package has a 'kde' prefix.... doesn't mean it has to have the full kde desktop for it to run.... I don't have gnome innstalled and do run gnome apps..... they just require the needed dependencies, not the full desktop manager
[22:01] <clustermagnet> older text is in the clipboard... instead of the latest one you select....
[22:01] <clustermagnet> known bug?
[22:01] <clustermagnet> pastes coming from konsole
[22:01] <Typos_King> ....
[22:02] <Typos_King> clustermagnet:     can't say..... I know terminal apps, some of them have their own 'clipboard'
[22:02]  * eristikophiles does the happy kubuntu dance
[22:02] <clustermagnet> Typos_King: let me see if its klipper thats messing up
[22:03] <Kolia> clustermagnet: yep, check the options in Klipper
[22:03] <Kolia> awaad: then do  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[22:04] <Kolia> awaad: that's the usual way to install kde when coming from ubuntu
[22:04] <clustermagnet> Kolia: well, i quit klipper
[22:04] <clustermagnet> still same problem
[22:04] <Kolia> awaad: it's a meta package that contains everything needed
[22:04] <clustermagnet> essentially, i would select some text... try to paste it into thunderbird.... but old clipboard text shows up :)
[22:04] <Kolia> clustermagnet:  no idea then sorry
[22:04] <awaad> kolia: I tried it a few minutes and it said that the newest version of the package is already installed
[22:04] <clustermagnet> thanks guys
[22:04] <brucelee> hol
[22:05] <brucelee> esyto es red hispaan no
[22:05] <brucelee> xd
[22:05] <Kolia> awaad: what does sudo apt-get upgrade says ?
[22:05] <brucelee> alguien ahbla español
[22:05] <brucelee> ?
[22:05] <FloodBotK1> brucelee: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:05] <awaad> Kolia: So I removed it and I removed all packages prefixed by kde and I will try to install it again using the command again
[22:05] <Kolia> !es |brucelee
[22:07] <awaad> kolia: some packages need to be upgraded
[22:08] <Kolia> awaad: like?
[22:10] <awaad> Kolia: ksysguardd libkdcraw7 libkexiv2-7 libkipi6 libknotificationitem1
[22:10] <awaad> Kolia: also, libkonq5-templates libokularcore1 quassel-data
[22:10] <Kolia> awaad: can you upgrade of is it blocked?
[22:11] <Kolia> if blocked:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:11] <awaad> Kolia : already, I am upgrading now
[22:12] <awaad> Kolia: I upgraded using the command  apt-get upgrade
[22:13] <Kolia> awaad: ok, and kubuntu-desktop is installed and the last version?
[22:13] <awaad> Kolia: but after "apt-get dist-upgrade" it says that 3 packages will be installed and 3 packages will be upgraded
[22:14] <awaad> Kolia: Does I have to click Y or N ??
[22:14] <Kolia> y
[22:14] <awaad> Kolia: ok, this will take alot of time
[22:15] <awaad> Kolia: what is the difference between "apt-get upgrade" and "apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[22:15] <vyrgozunqk> awaad: upgrade, upgrades only currently installed packages, and the other the whole system version
[22:16] <Kolia> awaad: man apt-get ;)
[22:16] <Kolia> it's explained correctly there :)
[22:18] <Typos_King> awaad:   you know it may just be quicker to ge the kubuntu .iso :{
[22:19] <awaad> Typos_king: Really ?
[22:19] <Typos_King> as far as the dist-upgrade, I don't think is needed, since this would be an install of a DM
[22:19] <Typos_King> awaad:   depending on how fast your machine might be, it'd install in 30mins or less
[22:20] <awaad> Typos_king: but the problem here is the speed of my internet connection not my machine
[22:20] <Typos_King> not to mention you may needed later one when using the live-cd boot to address something anyway
[22:20] <Typos_King> awaad:    what's the speed of it?
[22:20] <awaad> Typos_king: What is faster to be downloaded (packages of it or the ISO ) ?
[22:21] <Typos_King> awaad:  if you want to switch to kubuntu, rather than have both gnome and kde there, I'd say the .iso
[22:21] <awaad> Typos_king: It is the least speed in Egypt _ as I am Egyptian and here we have some problems with the speed and coast of internet .
[22:22] <awaad> Typos_king: No, I want both KDE and Gnome
[22:22] <Typos_King> ... ooookk
[22:22] <Typos_King> thenn.... continue with the installation of kubuntu-desktop :), and yes, it'll be a big one
[22:23] <awaad> Typos_king : Yes sir !!
[22:25] <Abcdqfr> Hi, anybody available to help?
[22:26] <Typos_King> ask
[22:26] <letalis> this is going to sound stupid but is 4.4 a development release or is it a true release?
[22:27] <Abcdqfr> What file do I need to input to make a working MBR copy for boot.ini
[22:27] <Abcdqfr> I've tried every sdb file in dev
[22:27] <Abcdqfr> And sda as well as sdc
[22:28] <Abcdqfr> None will boot kubuntu
[22:29] <Abcdqfr> Anyone?
[22:29] <avihay> say, someone knows why do;phin doesn't let me create a folder?
[22:31] <Typos_King> heeh
[22:31] <Typos_King> it doesn't?    heh well
[22:32] <Typos_King> Abcdqfr:    what do you need the mbr for?
[22:33] <Abcdqfr> Trying to boot linux with windows bootloader.
[22:33] <Typos_King> ...
[22:33] <Menox> ah, I've done that
[22:33] <Abcdqfr> I know, grub is 'so much better' but I like windows bootloader
[22:33] <Menox> It sucks.  Grub works much better.
[22:33] <Typos_King> well heheh... tried that btw, didnt work.. then again... I was using an external hd
[22:33] <Abcdqfr> Can you help me Menox
[22:33] <Typos_King> Abcdqfr:    where's the *nix partition?   sda1? sda3?
[22:33] <Abcdqfr> ?
[22:34] <Menox> Abcdqfr: as much as I can, its been years since I've done that.
[22:34] <Abcdqfr> Slave internal HDD, so sdb?
[22:34] <Typos_King> letalis:   dunno, I think 4.4 is not full yet
[22:34] <Menox> dd if=/dev/sd* of=/path/to/file <some other parameter for byte count>
[22:34] <Menox> and the byte count is 512
[22:34] <letalis> well i noticed it was caled a software compilations
[22:35] <Abcdqfr> Bs=512
[22:35] <Abcdqfr> Count=1
[22:35] <letalis> first time id ever seen that
[22:35] <Menox> Abcdqfr: do you already have your file for ntldr?
[22:35] <Abcdqfr> I don't think so. I think that's what I'm trying to make now...
[22:36] <Typos_King> letalis:   according to -> http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.4.1.php   it seems that it's
[22:36] <Typos_King> soooo
[22:36] <Typos_King> Abcdqfr:    where's the *nix partition?   sda1? sda3?
[22:36] <Menox> Abcdqfr: pm me, I should be able to help you
[22:36] <Abcdqfr> Typos_King: Its in a sdb I think
[22:37] <Menox> sdb what? 1,2,3?
[22:37] <Abcdqfr> I'm going to get help from Menox, and I don't know or sure
[22:37] <Menox> :S
[22:37] <Typos_King> hehh ok
[22:37] <Menox> well, we need to know that for sure.
[22:37] <Typos_King> well heheh... tried that btw, didnt work.. then again... I was using an external hd
[22:37] <Menox> we need to know the partition you installed linux on.
[22:38] <Typos_King> on the other hand. Grub gave me no hassles, :)
[22:38] <Menox> Typos_King: I did it. Failed a few times, then got it.  Then I installed grub.
[22:38] <Abcdqfr> First I think...
[22:38] <Abcdqfr> I'm using two HDD's
[22:38] <Menox> Abcdqfr: well, I won't be responsible if you muck up your HD because you don't know which disk and partition its installed on...
[22:39] <Typos_King> Menox:    welll... I had the correct 512bytes    soooo, it didn't work, but as I said, I was doing it for an external hd, not an interlnal partition
[22:39] <Abcdqfr> No partitioning, just seperate drives
[22:39] <Menox> Typos_King: after I was done I thought "well, that wasn't worth it."  Then promptly installed grub.
[22:39] <Typos_King> Abcdqfr:    are you right now on THAT hd? with *nix and win32 installed?
[22:40] <Abcdqfr> I told the installer to use the whole drive
[22:40] <Typos_King> Abcdqfr:    are you right now on THAT hd? with *nix and win32 installed?
[22:40] <Typos_King> maybe that was for Menox hehe, anyhow
[22:40] <Menox> Abcdqfr: I promise you, grub is MUCH better.
[22:41] <Abcdqfr> You mean windows xp?
[22:42] <Menox> hmmm... win32 = Windows.
[22:43] <Abcdqfr> Sorry, new term to me
[22:47] <keneb01> hi
[22:48] <keneb01> may i ask a question?
[22:48] <vyrgozunqk> yep
[22:49] <keneb01> I have just installed kubunto 9.10
[22:50] <keneb01> every thing looks pretty good  got the printer and network up and running
[22:50] <keneb01> figuired out how to change the su passwd
[22:51] <keneb01> now for the problem
[22:52] <keneb01> there seems to be material along the bottom of the screen and behind every window
[22:53] <keneb01> plus when you shutdown it kooks like a towel has been laid across the screen
[22:53] <keneb01> cant see through it
[22:54] <keneb01> can ne1 tell me what it is and how to get rid of it?
[22:54] <keneb01> looks
[22:55] <letalis> material?
[22:56] <keneb01> looks like a piece of fabric with vertical and horizontal lines
[22:56] <letalis> interesting. any way to post a screenshot of it?
[22:57] <keneb01> im not that far along
[22:57] <letalis> hit the print screen key
[22:58] <keneb01> standby
[22:58] <letalis> im not sure that pastebin can do images, but there are other ways to post an image out there. if i could see it itd be easier to tell you whats up
[23:00] <keneb01> i have it on the clipboard
[23:02] <letalis> if you can save directly to a file from that screenshot tool use a program like the gimp to paste it into an image you can send
[23:02] <letalis> *cant
[23:05] <Typos_King> hehe
[23:05] <Typos_King> keneb01:  so ...save it... or run ksnapshot and post it at imgur.com for us
[23:05] <keneb01> thx
[23:06] <letalis> if its software stupidity it should show up in the screenshot
[23:06] <letalis> :)
[23:06] <Daughain> How do I burn a bootable disk from an .iso in K3B?
[23:07] <Typos_King> Daughain:   just in k3b, say burn iso to cd :), done :)
[23:07] <letalis> youll want to goto tools and burn image
[23:07] <Typos_King> heheh
[23:07] <Daughain> Typos_King: And, it will be bootable???
[23:07] <Typos_King> Tools > burn cd image;
[23:07] <letalis> if the iso was bootable to begin with yes
[23:07] <Menox> ok, with grub2 how do I edit the entries?  I don't see a menu.lst anywhere
[23:08] <Daughain> I begin to regret all the time I spent using windows crap.....Thanks.
[23:08] <Typos_King> Daughain:   of course, the bootability is in the .iso structure, is not something the app has to do, .iso are burned at raw, to maintain the raw data integrity, yes
[23:09] <Typos_King> if it's a bootable .iso, it doesn't matter what your burn it with
[23:09] <letalis> images are a 1 to 1 copy of the disk
[23:09] <letalis> any attributes the original had tranfer to the iso image
[23:09] <Daughain> OK, thanks again, all.=)
[23:09] <letalis> im im going to have a fight with this keyboard if it doesnt stop screwing up
[23:10] <letalis> LOL
[23:10] <keneb01> brb
[23:11]  * Typos_King put his bet on the keyboard
[23:13] <letalis> yeah i put too much of my money into this to throw the laptop across the room because the keys dont do what i tell them to do :)
[23:13] <Typos_King> you can always get a usb kb :P
[23:14] <letalis> true, but that kinda limits its mobility that way
[23:14] <serge> hello i`am using kubuntu 9.10 and i have problem with firefox (( bus error
[23:14] <serge> i tried ti reinstall but this is not working
[23:15] <letalis> type firefox -safe-mode
[23:15] <letalis> it might be with two --
[23:15] <letalis> but close it after it comes up then open it again
[23:15] <serge> serge@linux:~$ firefox -safe-mode
[23:15] <serge> Bus error
[23:15] <Daughain> Typos_King: OK, say I am stupid.....The .iso I already have on disk will not boot, how do I burn a copy as bootable?
[23:15] <letalis> its some funky bug
[23:16] <Typos_King> if it's a bootable .iso, it doesn't matter what your burn it with
[23:16] <Typos_King> unless is not a bootable .iso
[23:17] <letalis> thats why i said earlier if it was bootable to begin with then itll work
[23:17] <Typos_King> or your burned.. it as Data cd... which means it just dump the .iso file on the cd :|
[23:17] <letalis> yeah you gotta burn it as an image
[23:18] <letalis> in k3b its under tools
[23:18] <Daughain> Thats why I am trying to find out how to make a bootable copy of a non-bootable original.
[23:18] <letalis> okay, what is it that youre making bootable?
[23:18] <Daughain> XP install disk...
[23:19] <Typos_King> har har har
[23:19] <Daughain> I agree, but I havent convinced everyone to switch to linux yet. =)
[23:19] <letalis> ouch. if the iso was copied as an image this shouldntve been an issue
[23:19] <Typos_King> well... it ..... trying... do you have a DOS disk around.... or something you can boot with that's not a cd?
[23:19] <Daughain> Dunno, *I* didnt copy it.
[23:20] <letalis> yeah, at this point you could try botting from a boot disk and running setup from the disk
[23:20] <letalis> booting even
[23:20] <Daughain> All I got is this damn cd........
[23:20] <Typos_King> yeah... many cd apps, do a lousy job when making .iso that are bootable, that  I know
[23:21] <Typos_King> they usually lose that 512bytes from the boot sector
[23:21] <Typos_King> hehe
[23:21] <Typos_King> either way... you don't need the cd to be bootable to install it, just need to be able to get to the DOS prompt, canyou?
[23:21] <letalis> if you have a friend that has a copy of the disk, what i would do is rip it yourself
[23:21] <Typos_King> well... it ..... trying... do you have a DOS disk around.... or something you can boot with that's not a cd?
[23:22] <letalis> that iso is probably borked
[23:22] <letalis> could he run setup from freedos?
[23:22] <Daughain> NOt unless I do it off of a thumb drive.
[23:22] <letalis> ive never tried it
[23:22] <Typos_King> oook
[23:23] <stebe> Daughain:  If you just want a live windows CD which maybe you can use to fix the iso:  http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/
[23:23] <Typos_King> Daughain:   ... what's in the HD you're trying to install win32 to? is it empty? does it have anything?
[23:24] <Daughain> Typos_King: Not too sure, it has a damaged copy of XP already......And, it refuses to acknowledge the upgrade cd I found I had floating around.
[23:24] <Typos_King> yes, no, maybe, gremlins?
[23:24] <Daughain> Mebbe gremlins.
[23:24] <Typos_King> heheh
[23:24] <Typos_King> so.... you have a full xp cd, is  that it?   and you'd like to install that
[23:24] <Daughain> OK, thin I am just gonna try unet and use a flashdrive....
[23:25] <serge> funny bug
[23:25] <letalis> http://www.freedos.org/freedos/files/
[23:25] <letalis> might could make a usuable boot disc from that
[23:25] <Typos_King> .... xp is installable from DOS
[23:25] <letalis> use unetbootin to install that to a flash drive
[23:26] <Typos_King> thus.... but he's kinda spaced out, he says this, then he spaces out and jumps off to another matter :|
[23:26] <letalis> then get to setup on the cd you made
[23:26] <letalis> :)
[23:26] <Daughain> WHy not just put the wholne thing on the flash drive in the first place?? =)
[23:26] <Typos_King> there he goes again.... off to another matter
[23:27] <letalis> extract the iso contents to the flshdrive after you add freedos to it
[23:27] <letalis> :)
[23:27] <Typos_King> ack.... that stuff is very simple to do, of course if you have someone who listens
[23:27] <letalis> then its all integrated and whatnot
[23:28] <letalis> the situation is ne needs an os loaded to run the setup
[23:28] <letalis> freedos is free and its dos.
[23:28] <letalis> LOL
[23:29] <Typos_King> heh
[23:30] <Typos_King> he needs to give a break to his ADHD and listen, but he's too busy wandering about :{
[23:30] <Typos_King> that's stuff is waaaay too simple to do
[23:36] <Skrot-> Hi, anyone else having problems with QtCreator (=1.3.0-0ubuntu2~karmic1~ppa1) not starting?
[23:36] <Typos_King> ... I don't use it... so
[23:45] <Skrot-> apachelogger: ping?