[01:05] <slangasek> lifeless: if I happen to have fixed the underlying cause of a UDD import failure, will a retrigger be attempted automatically or do I need to ask someone to poke it? (laptop-mode-tools)
[03:59] <CynthiaG> cjwatson: Just to let you know that, as promised, I downloaded today's daily CD build, and will test timings tomorrow. There was a delay of 13 hours due to a power failure at my ISP.
[06:42] <lifeless> slangasek: depends on the underlying failure, I think
[06:42] <lifeless> slangasek: all branches are reattempted, AIUI
[06:42] <lifeless> slangasek: but if the fix was 'land fix XYZ in bzr-builddeb', we'd need to deploy that first
[08:04] <slangasek> lifeless: it was a missing tag; I don't know what the underlying cause was, but I added the tag while trying to get bzr merge-package to work (didn't know it had also caused an import failure)
[08:07] <lifeless> that should not have caused an import failure
[08:07] <lifeless> rather the importer should have stomped on the current history and proposed the old history as a merge
[08:09] <slangasek> well, there are a number of other packages with that failure listed at http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/
[08:09] <slangasek> (27 of them)
[08:09] <slangasek> 27 packages failed with key bzrlib.errors.NoSuchTag:<module>:main:handle_collisions:clean_collision:import_package:_do_import_package:upstream_parents:revid_of_upstream_version:lookup_tag
[08:20] <lifeless> so, please make sure thats an open bug in UDD
[08:21] <lifeless>  / bzr-builddeb
[12:48] <kobrien> hi, any core devs around?
[12:52] <kobrien> anyone explain how I get a blueprint approved for maverick?
[12:55] <ari-tczew> kobrien: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick and click on column called "Design"
[12:55] <kobrien> ari-tczew: thanks
[12:56] <ari-tczew> you're welcome
[12:59] <kobrien> I've registered one. just wondering the next steps is all :)
[13:01] <kklimonda> kobrien: it can be accepted by a member of the ubuntu drivers team
[13:03] <soren> kobrien: Which team does it fall under?
[13:08] <kobrien> team. I dunno...it's a java app
[13:09] <kobrien> "devel" i think is most appropriate
[13:12] <kklimonda> kobrien: you can get a list of teams from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[13:12] <kobrien> cool
[13:13] <kobrien> kklimonda: oh, well maverick then
[13:14] <kklimonda> kobrien: no, when you scroll down you will find a paragraph called "Getting Involved" which has a subparagraph called "Teams"
[13:15] <Chipzz> "It's a java app" doesn't tell what your blueprint intends to do though
[13:15] <kklimonda> like Accessibility or Community or Desktop... and it's obviously not complete as there is no Desktop ;)
[13:16] <Chipzz> kobrien: if you just want to get an app included, blueprints are not appropriate
[13:16] <Chipzz> in that case you should file a bug report against ubuntu I think, and talk with the ppl in #ubuntu-motu
[13:29] <kobrien> Chipzz: my blueprint is that I'm porting something
[13:30] <kobrien> it's a development environment
[13:43] <ari-tczew> wgrant: could you check status for bug 74458 why it's Fix Committed since 3,5 years?
[14:17] <gam3> http://pastebin.org/312775
[14:18] <gam3> can anyone help me with that
[14:18] <kklimonda> ari-tczew: hmm.. it got superseeded by the security upload and no one has uploaded it again? that's what I get from comments. 74458 not being closed nowhere in 1.4.11-3ubuntu3.8 changelog fits
[14:18] <ari-tczew> kklimonda: that I ping wgrant for this, for check this bug
[14:19] <ansgar> gam3: Please try aksing in #ubuntu.
[14:19] <gam3> i did
[14:19] <gam3> and linux
[14:19] <gam3> and java
[14:32] <aakef> Hello all
[14:32] <aakef> Any one here who could help me with launchpad ppa uploads?
[14:33] <aakef> I registered a ppa page, upload to it with dput, but nothing happens
[14:35] <aakef> Or what would be the appropriate mailing list to ask on?
[14:39] <Chipzz> gam3: this channel is not some kind of overflow channel when you don't get an answer elsewhere. your question is not appropriate here
[14:46] <ScottK> aakef: Try #launchpad.  It's off topic here.
[14:47] <aakef> ScottK: Thanks! Will ask there.
[17:23] <un214> what's it gonna take to get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/module-init-tools/+bug/584814
[21:51] <un214> what's it gonna take to really kill fbcon? In the days where I used slackware I'd compile it out but that doesn't work to well with dpkg.
[22:06] <debfx> micahg: kmozillahelper has been renamed, you can change the firefox Suggests now
[22:06] <debfx> bug #559154
[22:46] <h0ar3> hi guys
[22:46] <h0ar3> anyone knows about grub4dos
[22:53] <micahg> debfx: k
[22:54] <cjwatson> h0ar3: die grub4dos die.  grub2 supersedes the need for it
[23:58] <CynthiaG> cjwatson: What timings are you interested in for your mkisofs reordering? (the one where you put the squashfs file at the end) Is it worth testing on all the computers I have access to?
[23:59] <cjwatson> whatever you think is reasonable to get an assessment of whether it actually improved matters and by how much


[00:01] <rbs-tito> Is anyone here?
[00:01] <rbs-tito> That knows about the debian control file?
[00:11] <ubotu> New bug: #180224 in gdm (main) "Hibernate icon missing in GDM options menu" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180224
[00:11] <ubotu> New bug: #180225 in ubuntu "php5-interbase" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180225
[00:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180172 in oggconvert (universe) "oggconvert crashed with TypeError in _update_progressbar()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180172
[00:16] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: that bug you just opened on the hibernate icon, there is no icon in the pixmap directory for feisty either
[00:18] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: right, I checked that too but also noticed that there is not one for suspend either
[00:18] <bdmurray> I think the package changed a lot
[00:19] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: Me too, that's why I took myself from assignment!
[00:19] <bdmurray> heh, I looked for the icon to add as a patch too
[00:19] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: I'd have thought it would have used all the icons from the GNOME theme anyway
[00:21] <ubotu> New bug: #180226 in linux-source-2.6.22 "kernel oops - Assertion failure in do_get_write_access()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180226
[00:34] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: If you're not too busy, could you check out my patch for bug 180217
[00:34] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 180217 in python-mode "One more dependency for python-mode package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180217
[00:35] <ubotu> New bug: #180231 in gnome-themes-extras (universe) "Darklooks : Searchbox unreadable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180231
[00:36] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: And for that package, am I supposed to contact the Debian developer?
[00:37] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: I don't think so, that should be Ubuntu specific
[00:37] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: So I've set it as confirmed and marked my attachment as a patch, it's done?
[00:38] <bdmurray> whoops, I thought you were talking about the gdm bug - give me a minute
[00:39] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: how bad is the bug?
[00:39] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: As minor as it gets
[00:40] <bdmurray> so the application still functions?
[00:40] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: One feature doesn't, unless a package is manually isntalled
[00:40] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: It's a missing recommended dependency
[00:40] <ubotu> New bug: #180233 in gthumb (main) "gthumb folder keyboard control" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180233
[00:50] <ubotu> New bug: #180235 in openoffice.org (main) "unable to import text in a table from a website" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180235
[00:55] <ubotu> New bug: #180237 in gnome-control-center (main) ""keyboard LED to show alternative layouts" doesn't work in Hardy a2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180237
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #180238 in ubuntu ""keyboard LED to show alternative layouts" doesn't work in Hardy a2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180238
[01:11] <ubotu> New bug: #180240 in hal (main) "realtek rtl8185 driver wont work I can't get online wireless" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180240
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #149519 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149519
[01:56] <ubotu> New bug: #180243 in goffice (main) "Please merge goffice 0.6.1-1 (main) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180243
[02:36] <ubotu> New bug: #180244 in frozen-bubble (universe) "Hiscore list mirrors on new entry - patch included" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180244
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #180245 in picard (universe) "Debian watch file doesn't work" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180245
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #180248 in audacious (universe) "Please merge audacious 1.4.5-1 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180248
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #180250 in hal (main) "system fails to resume in Hardy with non-free nvidia driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180250
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #180254 in lastfm (universe) "Please merge  lastfm <IP_ADDRESS>486.dfsg-1 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180254
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #180256 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager does not start with gnome-phone-manager running" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180256
[04:14] <rbs-tito> Anyone here?
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #180258 in gtk-vnc (universe) "Please sync libgtk-vnc-1.0-0 0.3.2-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180258
[04:26] <ubotu> New bug: #180259 in totem (main) "totem-xine crashed with SIGSEGV in xine_port_send_gui_data()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180259
[04:31] <ubotu> New bug: #180261 in user-setup "Adding a new user with "Real Name" containing an apostrophe fails" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180261
[04:35] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: I think forwarding that bug is a good idea
[04:35] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: The one I made a patch for earlier?
[04:36] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: right - bug 180217 to debian
[04:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 180217 in python-mode "One more dependency for python-mode package" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180217
[04:37] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: To the Debian bugtracker or to the maintainers email address?
[04:38] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: the debian bug tracker
[04:39] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: Do you report Debian bugs with email?
[04:40] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: yeah, there isn't a web reporting tool
[04:40] <rbs-tito> Debian is where old software goes to die
[04:41] <rbs-tito> there's a package called reportbug, that does it for you right?
[04:44] <bdmurray> not the ubuntu package of it
[04:44] <rbs-tito> damn
[04:44] <rbs-tito> Can I send the email in evolution?
[04:44] <bdmurray> yes, I think there is specific formatting of the message though
[04:45] <bdmurray> http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
[04:49] <rbs-tito> http://pastebin.ca/840991
[04:49] <rbs-tito> Is that what I need?
[04:50] <rbs-tito> It's in the right format
[04:50] <rbs-tito> But is the info alright?
[04:51] <rbs-tito> I've put Severity: minor too
[04:52] <bdmurray> Cool, I think the package version might help
[04:53] <rbs-tito> with the -ubuntu1 bit too?
[04:53] <rbs-tito> or just the version as it comes from Debian?
[04:53] <rbs-tito> 1:1.0-3.1ubuntu1 is the version in Gutsy
[04:55] <bdmurray> right, I'm guessing we don't modify the debian/control so would think that it applies to 1.0-3.1
[04:55] <bdmurray> you have the source right?
[04:55] <rbs-tito> yeah
[04:55] <rbs-tito> Why?
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #180262 in ubuntu "ACPI hot keys not working on Asus M6R" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180262
[04:56] <bdmurray> wouldn't that show us?
[04:56] <rbs-tito> There's no revision system
[04:56] <rbs-tito> apt-get source fetches python-mode-1.0
[04:56] <rbs-tito> So should version be 1.0 ?
[04:58] <bdmurray> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=python-mode&archive=no&version=&dist=unstable
[04:58] <bdmurray> That shows the latest version being 1.0-3.1 so I'd use that
[04:58] <rbs-tito> I just got that number from packages.debian.org too
[04:58] <bdmurray> I think 1.0 is upstream and -3.1 is the debian version
[04:59] <bdmurray> then ubuntu1 is us
[04:59] <rbs-tito> ok, i'll send it off
[04:59] <crimsun> you might want to read the latter portion of lucas's blog, too.
[04:59] <crimsun> http://www.lucas-nussbaum.net/blog/?p=271
[04:59] <crimsun> "If you are an Ubuntu Developer, read wiki.u.c/Bugs/Debian/Usertagging for the details on how to tag the bugs you file. Note that the submittodebian script in the ubuntu-dev-tools package already sets the usertags."
[05:00] <rbs-tito> crimsun: Damn, too late, I should have added that tag
[05:00] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: I think you can modify it after the fact
[05:01] <crimsun> (yes, you can.)
[05:01] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: Feel free to attempt it, but that was the most convoluted report I've ever made!!
[05:02] <rbs-tito> Do Debian send you an email back or something?
[05:02] <bdmurray> okay, it says at w.u.c how to add the tags
[05:02] <bdmurray> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Debian/Usertagging
[05:02] <bdmurray> Yes, you'll get e-mail similar to launchpad e-mail
[05:03] <bdmurray> crimsun: what is the 123456 for?
[05:03] <bdmurray> is that needed?
[05:03] <rbs-tito> and is the user ubuntu.devel or me?
[05:04] <bdmurray> Yes, you'll get e-mail similar to launchpad e-mailAll those usertags must be used with the [MAILTO]<EMAIL_ADDRESS>user.
[05:04] <rbs-tito> they haven't sent me anything yet
[05:04] <bdmurray> it says that user must be used
[05:05] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: I didn't add a user tag to my email :S
[05:06] <rbs-tito> That bug is online
[05:06] <rbs-tito> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=458997
[05:06] <ubotu> Debian bug 458997 in python-mode "python-mode should mark pychecker as recommended" [Minor,Open]
[05:07] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: well, that's a start (thanks for doing that) I'll look at adding the tag tomorrow
[05:07] <rbs-tito> So how do I add the Ubuntu tags to that report? I mean, the example on w.u.c doesn't have a place to write a bug number or anything like that
[05:08] <bdmurray> ah, 123456 must be the bug number
[05:08] <rbs-tito> Oh right
[05:08] <rbs-tito> Yeah
[05:08] <rbs-tito> Of course
[05:08] <bdmurray> so you want origin-ubuntu and patch added
[05:09] <bdmurray> however, that seems to be a different type of tag
[05:10] <rbs-tito> origin-ubuntu I've just sent off
[05:10] <rbs-tito> I haven't added patch because I don't know how to do it
[05:10] <rbs-tito> Do you just attach it or what?
[05:11] <bdmurray> I think using tag instead of usertag would work
[05:12] <bdmurray> so . tag 123456 + patch
[05:12] <ubotu> New bug: #180264 in gnome-games (main) "Blackjack loss of options after splitting aces" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180264
[05:12] <rbs-tito> Yeah, patch is a normal tag to say its patched, the other tag is to say it's patched by one of us
[05:15] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: okay, I'm done for the night thanks for doing that
[05:16] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: Thanks for helping. I can't be bothered to sleep tonight
[05:17] <rbs-tito> bdmurray: Wait, do I file that report in malone?
[05:17] <rbs-tito> Link to Debian in distributions?
[05:18] <bdmurray> rbs-tito: that is correct
[05:18] <rbs-tito> Thanks
[05:18] <rbs-tito> Launchpad is way better than Debian bugs
[05:19] <rbs-tito> Debian might aswell migrate :p
[05:19] <greg-g> I used reportbug-ng to report bugs to debian and it does all of the syntax for you (and opens up your preferred mail client to send it), just fyi
[05:19] <rbs-tito> ooh, got an email, they've accepted the changes
[05:19] <rbs-tito> greg-g: I'll check it out
[05:20] <rbs-tito> greg-g: If I want to send my patch, how do I go about it?
[05:20] <greg-g> you might want to delete some of the info it puts in there (like what servers are in your sources.list) but I like it for the very low number of debian bugs I report
[05:21] <greg-g> rbs-tito: dunno, never done that
[05:21] <rbs-tito> greg-g: Debian bugs is so awful
[05:21] <greg-g> agreed
[05:25] <rbs-tito> I added the hardy tag too
[05:26] <ubotu> New bug: #180266 in dhcdbd (main) "dhclient doesn't send host-name" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180266
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #180267 in nautilus (main) ""Empty trash before umount" on removable disks should read "unmount"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180267
[05:50] <rbs-tito> bug 180267 is pretty sorted I think
[05:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 180267 in nautilus ""Empty trash before umount" on removable disks should read "unmount"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180267
[06:09] <ubotu> New bug: #180269 in partman-base (main) "Partman is disorganized" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180269
[06:09] <ubotu> New bug: #180270 in xorg (main) "Can't disable 640x480" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180270
[06:11] <ubotu> New bug: #180268 in gnome-vfs2 "Nautilus FTP access fails to display permissions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180268
[06:12] <ubotu> New bug: #180271 in banshee (universe) "Banshee infinite loops when trying to play a podcast" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180271
[06:12] <ubotu> New bug: #180272 in f-spot (main) "F-spot crashes in ubuntu 8.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180272
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #180274 in bluez-libs (main) "Please sync bluez-libs (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180274
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #180280 in ubuntu "'Help' & 'About Ubuntu' does not work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180280
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #180281 in linux-meta (main) "Intel HDA soundcard produces no sound with Ubuntu 7.10 Generic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180281
[08:17] <ubotu> New bug: #180282 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Ruby Nmap::Parser Library" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180282
[08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #180285 in clamav (universe) "[clamav] remote vulnerabilities in versions before 0.92" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180285
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #180287 in rhythmbox (main) "rhytmbox plays a song that was stopped along with another" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180287
[09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #180289 in linux-meta (main) "[linux-source] [CVE-2007-5966] integer overflow in the hrtimer_start function in kernel/hrtimer.c, local vulnerabilty" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180289
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180291 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed whilst browsing a website - this was repeated shortly after restarting the session." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180291
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180292 in linux-meta (main) "[linux-source] [CVE-2007-6063] Buffer overflow in the isdn_net_setcfg function in isdn_net.c, possible local vulnerability" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180292
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180293 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "flashplugin-nonfree installation fails with checksum failure on binary package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180293
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #180294 in linux-meta (main) "[linux-source] [CVE-2007-6206] local coredump information disclosure vulnerability" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180294
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #180295 in linux-meta (main) "[linux-source] [CVE-2007-6417] information disclosure and DoS vulnerability" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180295
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #180296 in cupsys (main) "[cupsys] [CVE-2007-5849] [CVE-2007-6358] local vulnerabilities" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180296
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #180298 in kdebase (main) "Konqueror crashes on submitting login form" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180298
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #180299 in tar (main) "[tar] [CVE-2007-4476] Buffer overflow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180299
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #180300 in typo3-src (universe) "[typo3-src] [CVE-2007-6381] SQL injection vulnerability" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180300
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #180301 in inotify-tools (universe) "[inotify-tools] [CVE-2007-5037] buffer overflow, possible execution of arbitrary code, local vulnerability" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180301
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #180303 in peercast (universe) "[peercast] [CVE-2007-6454] buffer overflow, remote vulnerability allowing DoS or arbitrary code execution" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180303
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #180304 in ubuntu "Plugging in AC while screen dimming for screensaver locks X" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180304
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180306 in tcpreen (universe) "[tcpreen] [CVE-2007-6562] remote buffer overflow causing DoS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180306
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180307 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in pthread_mutex_lock()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180307
[10:41] <ubotu> New bug: #180308 in maradns (universe) "[maradns] [CVE-2008-0061] programming error leading to DoS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180308
[10:46] <ubotu> New bug: #180309 in migration-assistant (main) "MigrationAssistance doesn't use localization settings" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180309
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #180312 in compiz (main) "compiz won't autodetect driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180312
[10:56] <ubotu> New bug: #180314 in ubuntu "Can't compile kphone 4.2-6 with Qt-4.3.2 under Ubuntu 7.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180314
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #180316 in compiz (main) "fixed window placement not working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180316
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #180319 in cell-gcc (universe) "ipc/compat.c:468: internal compiler error: in copyprop_hardreg_forward_1, at regrename.c:1592" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180319
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #180320 in tramp (universe) "tramp not working with xemacs21" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180320
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #180323 in debian-maintainers "Please remove debian-maintainers package from Ubuntu" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180323
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #180211 in totem (main) "totem-gstreamer crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180211
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #180325 in pidgin (main) "pidgin doesn't realize I've lost my internet connection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180325
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #180326 in pidgin (main) "pidgin won't connect until I change the "status"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180326
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #180328 in prboom (universe) "Please sync prboom 2.4.7+dfsg-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180328
[12:21] <Hobbsee> debian bug #385561
[12:21] <ubotu> Debian bug 385561 in konsole "konsole crashed after my cat jumped on the mouse" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/385561
[12:30] <DarkMageZ> that's an interesting bug title
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #180331 in firefox (main) "when opening site http://vnexpress.net, firefox páuse for a while" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180331
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #180330 in telepathy-qt (universe) "Please sync telepathy-qt 0.0.2064-1 from Debian experimental to fix a FTBFS" [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180330
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #180332 in linuxtv-dvb-apps (universe) "dvb-t scan example file for Muenster" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180332
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #180333 in epiphany-browser (main) "URL bar does not lose focus" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180333
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #180334 in pysycache (universe) "Please sync pysycache 3.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180334
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #180335 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "flash on firefox/compiz causes nonresponsive firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180335
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #180336 in virtualbox-ose (universe) "vditool crashes with "error while loading shared libraries: VBoxDDU.so"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180336
[12:57] <jtt> does gdm  control  suspend/hibernate etc.
[13:01] <pedro_> jtt: yeah it can do that
[13:06] <ubotu> New bug: #180339 in gcc-3.4 (main) "Problems with gcc-3.4-doc during upgrades." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180339
[13:06] <jtt> pedro_, ok thanks i am trying to set the package name on some bugs
[13:06] <jtt> that are missing the package name
[13:06] <pedro_> jtt: rock!, thanks for do that :-)
[13:07] <jtt> yes i really need to know more about the structure of gnome but getting there
[13:11] <ubotu> New bug: #180338 in rocksndiamonds (multiverse) "Please sync rocksndiamonds 3.2.4+dfsg-2 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (contrib)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180338
[13:16] <ubotu> New bug: #179862 in miro (universe) "miro.real crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179862
[13:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180341 in rott (multiverse) "Please sync rott 1.0-5 (multiverse) from Debian unstable (contrib)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180341
[13:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180342 in bsdgames (universe) "adventure crashed with SIGSEGV in __libc_start_main()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180342
[13:21] <ubotu> New bug: #179980 in ubuntu "Update problem" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179980
[13:21] <ubotu> New bug: #180344 in decibel (universe) "[FTBFS] decibel (0.5.0+svn737972-2) fails to build in hardy" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180344
[13:21] <ubotu> New bug: #180345 in searchandrescue (universe) "Please sync searchandrescue 0.8.2-9 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180345
[13:30] <ubotu> New bug: #180346 in singularity (universe) "Please sync singularity 0.261+r409-5 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180346
[13:35] <ubotu> New bug: #180348 in tumiki-fighters (universe) "Please sync tumiki_fighters 0.2.dfsg1-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180348
[13:46] <ubotu> New bug: #180350 in eog (main) "i cannot print pictures" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180350
[13:51] <ubotu> New bug: #180351 in foomatic-filters (main) "hp laserjet 1015 foomatic-rip chokes on pdf" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180351
[13:51] <ubotu> New bug: #180352 in backuppc (main) "[backuppc] v3.10 package upgrade request" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180352
[13:51] <ubotu> New bug: #180353 in xffm "[Removal Request]: xffm and friends" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180353
[13:51] <ubotu> New bug: #180354 in python-wsgiref (universe) "Please sync python-wsgiref 0.1.2-2  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180354
[14:19] <Hobbsee> debian bug 459107
[14:19] <ubotu> Debian bug 459107 in telepathy-qt "New upstream version 0.14.1" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/459107
[14:20] <ubotu> New bug: #180357 in warzone2100 (universe) "Please sync warzone2100 version 2.1.0~0.svn3260-2 from Debian unstable (main)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180357
[14:20] <ubotu> New bug: #180358 in firefox (main) "news paper cant read malayalam in firefox browser" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180358
[14:25] <ubotu> New bug: #180359 in thunderbird (main) "ubuntu - can't drag & drop mail to personal folder" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180359
[15:10] <ubotu> New bug: #180362 in mplayerplug-in (multiverse) "mplayer plugin firefox only produces sound in active window" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180362
[15:20] <ubotu> New bug: #180364 in ocamlnet (universe) "ocamlrpcgen no longer works on Gutsy. Probably a wrongly stripped binary" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180364
[15:21] <ubotu> New bug: #180365 in cdebconf-keystep (main) "keyboard automatic detection fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180365
[15:31] <ubotu> New bug: #180368 in command-not-found (main) "gdbm fatal: lseek error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180368
[15:31] <ubotu> New bug: #180369 in amarok (main) "Trying to change the title of read-only file makes the title disappear (empty)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180369
[15:36] <ubotu> New bug: #132878 in warzone2100 (universe) "warzone2100 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132878
[15:36] <ubotu> New bug: #155635 in warzone2100 (universe) "warzone2100 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/155635
[15:36] <ubotu> New bug: #176095 in warzone2100 (universe) "warzone2100 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176095
[15:50] <ubotu> New bug: #180370 in amarok (main) "Daap share never loads song or artist lists" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180370
[15:55] <rbs-tito> Are old bugs being rejected now??
[15:56] <ubotu> New bug: #180371 in squid3 (universe) "Please sync squid 3.0.STABLE1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180371
[15:56] <ubotu> New bug: #180372 in synaptic (main) "Gnome and Synaptic Crash" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180372
[15:56] <ubotu> New bug: #180373 in serpentine (main) "serpentine fails loading pls or m3u files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180373
[16:11] <jtt> rbs-tito, i would'nt think so, but sometimes rewrites cause bugs to no longer be revelant
[16:11] <jtt> rewrites of code the bug was found in that is
[16:12] <jtt> and some times updates accidentally or purposefully fix bugs
[16:12] <rbs-tito> I've just uploaded a patch to bug 70786 , needs review though
[16:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 70786 in gdm ""Username" field contains nonsensical tooltip" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70786
[16:13] <taim> Not sure if this is a good place to ask, but I am sure you will tell me.
[16:13] <taim> Bug #161034 shows having 1 duplicate.
[16:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 161034 in ubuntu "install keyboard freeze" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161034
[16:13] <taim> I can't seem to find a link to the duplicate.
[16:13] <taim> Nor am I able to add a comment.
[16:15] <taim> What makes this a little confusing to me is that there is also a bug from a while back that probably makes #161034 a duplicate of #35530.
[16:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180377 in apt (main) "Uzbekistan mirror is unaccessible" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180377
[16:16] <pedro_> rbs-tito: thanks for your work, it should be looked by the gdm maintainers (upstream) though
[16:18] <pedro_> taim: bug 161033 is the one that was marked as dup of it
[16:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 161033 in ubuntu "install keyboard freeze (dup-of: 161034)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161033
[16:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 161034 in ubuntu "install keyboard freeze" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/161034
[16:20] <rbs-tito> pedro_: I've uploaded to the GNOME bugtracker too
[16:21] <pedro_> rbs-tito: yeah that's why i said it ;-)
[16:21] <rbs-tito> It would be nice if GNOME moved to Launchpad, you tend to log in to their bugzilla way too often
[16:21] <rbs-tito> pedro_: :) Gotcha
[16:21] <pedro_> hehe
[16:22] <rbs-tito> Debian too, I sent a report to them last night, it's like pulling teeth
[16:22] <pedro_> hahaha
[16:22] <pedro_> yeah BTS isn't very cool
[16:24] <taim> pedro_: am I missing how you found that?  Is there a section of 161034 that I was missing?
[16:25] <pedro_> taim: look at the left side of the report, there's a tab (just at the bottom of actions) that say "duplicates of this bug"
[16:25] <pedro_> taim: if you can't post a comment to it maybe is because you're not logged in?
[16:28] <taim> pedro_: whoops.  Helps if I read the title tabs :}
[16:28] <pedro_> haha yeah that helps sometimes :-P
[16:28] <taim> pedro_: I am logged in, but still unable to type anything in the comment section.
[16:29] <ubotu> New bug: #180379 in gnome-terminal (main) "after "reset and clear", the gnome terminal shows "Text was empty (or contained only whitespace)"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180379
[16:29] <ubotu> New bug: #180380 in cheese (universe) "debian/watch file missing in cheese" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180380
[16:30] <pedro_> that's weird you should be able to do that, maybe a browser issue?
[16:30]  * pedro_ out for lunch brb
[16:30] <ubotu> New bug: #180378 in pm-utils (restricted) "nvidia-kernel-common needs to intergrate with new pm-tools framework" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180378
[16:30] <ubotu> New bug: #180381 in libwww-mechanize-perl (universe) "Please sync libwww-mechanize-perl 1.34-1  (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180381
[16:30] <taim> pedro_: That's what I was thinking.  I am going to try later on another machine that isn't as broken as the one I am currently on.
[16:31] <ubotu> New bug: #180363 in nicotine (universe) "nicotine crashed with IndexError in _parse()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180363
[16:40] <ubotu> New bug: #180382 in kompozer (universe) "debian/watch file missing in kompozer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180382
[16:57] <ubotu> New bug: #180384 in mozilla-traybiff (universe) "Please merge mozilla-traybiff 1.2.3-4 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180384
[17:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180385 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox freezes when music location is mounted shortly after startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180385
[17:25] <ubotu> New bug: #180386 in playground (universe) "debian/watch file missing in playground" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180386
[17:25] <ubotu> New bug: #180387 in asterisk (universe) "Voicemail for the Spanish language references non-existent files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180387
[17:30] <ubotu> New bug: #180389 in evolution (main) "Folder names with special characters" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180389
[17:30] <ubotu> New bug: #180390 in pysdm (universe) "debian/watch file missing in pysdm" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180390
[17:41] <ubotu> New bug: #180391 in conduit (universe) "debian/watch missing" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180391
[17:41] <ubotu> New bug: #180393 in avidemux (multiverse) "package avidemux-common None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/avidemux-common.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES/avidemux.mo', which is also in package avidemux" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180393
[17:51] <ubotu> New bug: #180394 in xffm-samba (universe) "debian/watch file missing in xffm-samba" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180394
[17:56] <ubotu> New bug: #180356 in nautilus (main) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180356
[17:56] <ubotu> New bug: #180395 in freej (universe) "Please sync freej 0.9.1+dl0-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180395
[18:01] <ubotu> New bug: #180324 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome-about-me crashed with signal 5 in main()" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180324
[18:01] <ubotu> New bug: #180396 in gstreamer0.10 (main) "[gutsy] Video output scrambled" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180396
[18:01] <ubotu> New bug: #180397 in evince (main) "evince characters printing with epson stylus dx6000" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180397
[18:17] <ubotu> New bug: #180398 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (main) "xvideo causes contrast/blocking issues" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180398
[18:50] <ubotu> New bug: #180406 in gtkpod-aac (multiverse) "Please upgrade to gtkpod-aac 0.99.12" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180406
[18:55] <ubotu> New bug: #180407 in ndiswrapper (main) "Please merge ndiswrapper 1.51-1 (main) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180407
[18:55] <ubotu> New bug: #180409 in linux-restricted-modules-<IP_ADDRESS> "bugs in fglrx after and post install" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180409
[19:11] <ubotu> New bug: #180411 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> flashplugin-nonfree Gutsy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180411
[19:20] <ubotu> New bug: #180412 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "file system usage should ignore capifs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180412
[19:40] <ubotu> New bug: #180415 in coreutils (main) "df display 1K-blocks for 4K too" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180415
[19:48] <jtt> pedro_, one of the bugs i am working on the problem has disappeared
[19:48] <jtt> how do we go about closing the ticket
[19:48] <pedro_> jtt: can you comment that in the report?
[19:49] <jtt> ok wanted to know where that went as there is no actual status close thanks
[19:49] <pedro_> if another person or the reporter said it was fixed too, it can be closed
[19:49] <pedro_> jtt: the status might be then "fix released"
[19:49] <jtt> the reported said it disappeared
[19:49] <jtt> reporter
[19:50] <jtt> is there an actual close status
[19:50] <pedro_> jtt: "invalid"
[19:50] <jtt> ok
[19:56] <ubotu> New bug: #125820 in gnome-osd (universe) "gnome-osd-event-bridge crashed with ImportError in <module>()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125820
[19:56] <rbs-tito> Geubuntu? What next!
[20:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180417 in gnome-panel (main) "Launcher icons shifted on fullscreen games" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180417
[20:25] <ubotu> New bug: #180420 in ubuntu "Compaq v2000 will not exit suspend/hibernate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180420
[20:30] <ubotu> New bug: #180421 in ubuntu "Broadcom wifi card not connecting to NETGEAR network, even with ndiswrapper" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180421
[20:35] <ubotu> New bug: #180422 in control-center (main) "About Me has dependency on Evolution Data Server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180422
[20:45] <ubotu> New bug: #180423 in ubuntu "Keyboard not functioning on Ubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180423
[20:45] <ubotu> New bug: #180424 in evolution (main) "evolution sends email only after click on 'send/receive' min. 5 times " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180424
[20:51] <ubotu> New bug: #180425 in ubuntu "epson stylus photo RX425 not working anymore since 2.6.22-14-generic" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180425
[20:57] <ubotu> New bug: #180426 in privoxy (universe) "firefox + privoxy generates "Error 403: Forbidden" message from the "Way Back Machine" (www.archive.org)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180426
[21:15] <ubotu> New bug: #180428 in yelp (main) "Sessions Preferences help incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180428
[21:16] <ubotu> New bug: #180427 in ubuntu "system startup screen does not come up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180427
[21:31] <ubotu> New bug: #180429 in dolphin (main) "Dolphin creates huge temp files till partition is full" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180429
[21:31] <ubotu> New bug: #180430 in ubuntu "[Hardy] Local Root Options" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180430
[21:31] <ubotu> New bug: #180431 in linkchecker (universe) "Merge linkchecker 4.8-1 from Debian(Unstable)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180431
[21:31] <ubotu> New bug: #180432 in deskbar-applet (main) "deskbar-applet crashed with AttributeError in get_name()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180432
[21:46] <ubotu> New bug: #180433 in ubuntu "Xinerama doesn't work with mga driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180433
[21:51] <ubotu> New bug: #180435 in ubuntu "TTF Font  will not displayed correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180435
[21:51] <ubotu> New bug: #180436 in ubuntu "[Hardy] Service changes are not saved" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180436
[21:56] <ubotu> New bug: #180437 in xaralx (multiverse) "xaralx crashes on transparency" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180437
[21:57] <ubotu> New bug: #178246 in update-manager (main) "upgrading to version 7.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178246
[22:05] <ubotu> New bug: #180439 in flashplugin-nonfree (multiverse) "package flashplugin-nonfree None failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180439
[22:21] <ubotu> New bug: #180440 in network-manager (main) "Unable to connect to wired network" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180440
[22:21] <ubotu> New bug: #180441 in apt-show-versions (universe) "Please merge apt-show-versions 0.12 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180441
[23:06] <ubotu> New bug: #180449 in nfs-utils (main) "gssd doesn't properly detect kernel supported enctypes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180449
[23:26] <ubotu> New bug: #180450 in ubuntu "Please merge torus-tropper 0.22.dfsg1-2 (universe) from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180450
[23:35] <ubotu> New bug: #180451 in audio-convert (universe) "nautilus-script-audio-convert fails to pass metadata tag to/from mp3 files" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180451


[00:40] <racarr> RAOF: The second changes are necessary or it only makes one instance of the dri2_drv and the function pointers get overridden between the drivers
[00:41] <racarr> RAOF: You can test the changes with enable-inprocess-egl and the new example (bin/mir_demo_inprocess_egl)
[00:42] <RAOF> racarr: Aaah, thanks. Right, yeah, now I can see why the second change.
[00:45] <RAOF> I think the second change is still wrong, or rather needs additional changes to make it not-wrong :)
[00:45] <RAOF> But I'll start poking at them now.
[00:50] <racarr> RAOF: Thanks :)
[02:01] <thomi> Hey guys - the newer mir packages link to libandroid-input.so, which I don't have. Is this intentional? If so, where do I get that library from, and can we update the mir package to depend on that library please?
[02:07] <thomi> RAOF: any ideas? ^
[02:14] <RAOF> thomi: Mir builds that library.
[02:14] <RAOF> thomi: Oh, but we probably don't install it properly.
[02:14] <thomi> ahhh, that would explain it.
[02:14] <robert_ancell> duflu, yay, -zdefs works a treat. Thansk
[02:15] <duflu> robert_ancell: Cool np
[02:15] <robert_ancell> thomi, oh, I'm tracking that down right now
[02:15] <robert_ancell> thomi, it also doesn't link against glog
[02:15] <duflu> thomi: Yeah barely half the dev team knows how to and does test package builds :/
[02:16] <duflu> thomi: Bug against mir project please!
[02:16] <thomi> duflu: sure
[02:16] <RAOF> GRARGH!
[02:17] <RAOF> What the hell is causing the tests to abort part-way through with exit status 0?
[02:20] <RAOF> RUN_ALL_TESTS() is returning prematurely, but successfully.
[02:21] <thomi> duflu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1164253
[02:21] <duflu> RAOF: grep exit ;)
[02:21] <duflu> RAOF: Or maybe we're handling _too_many_ exceptions
[02:22] <RAOF> duflu: I broke in exit(); it's getting called at the end of main, after RUN_ALL_TESTS() has returned 0.
[02:22] <duflu> RAOF: Maybe we just need fflush(stdout)
[02:22] <duflu> Hmm, no that will be done at exit
[02:23] <duflu> Bisect!
[02:37] <robert_ancell> racarr, ping
[02:39] <duflu> robert_ancell: Forgot to mention I have an appointment after lunch in a few hours. Should not take too long
[02:39] <robert_ancell> duflu, np
[02:40] <duflu> robert_ancell: I am also eager to see and approve -zdefs
[02:40] <robert_ancell> duflu, yeah, will propose once I get it linking to glog correctly
[03:16] <racarr> robert_ancell: Pong
[03:16] <robert_ancell> racarr, hey, was wondering why libandroid-input is a shared library?
[03:16] <racarr> robert_ancell: client and server both use it
[03:16] <robert_ancell> racarr, but why not just statically link it to both?
[03:18] <racarr> besides potential difficulties with two copies in the test binaries
[03:18] <racarr> No reason
[03:19] <racarr> it feels like it should be a shared library though the way its used between the client and server
[03:20] <robert_ancell> racarr, it's opened up a number of problems having it installed shared - it doesn't have a unique name, it doesn't have a library version. We'd have to package it separately to the other library packages. We'd have to manage different versions being used potentially by the client and the server
[03:20] <RAOF> Hm. Something's playing silly buggers with file descriptors.
[03:21] <RAOF> #4  0x00007ffff6466cab in android::InputChannel::InputChannel (this=0x15580a0, name="TODO: Name", fd=2)
[03:21] <RAOF> Is unlikely to do anything sensible.
[03:21] <RAOF> duflu: Do you know offhand what happens when someone close()es stdout under gtest?
[03:22] <RAOF> :)
[03:22] <robert_ancell> racarr, what's the two copies in test binaries that you're referring to?
[03:48] <RAOF> Ah. So, TEST(AndroidInputWindowHandle, update_info_uses_geometry_and_channel_from_surface) first sets stderr to non-blocking mode, then closes it. With, apparently, hilarious consequences!
[04:07] <duflu> Wow, stupid mistake and also not a test failure
[04:07] <duflu> Cool
[04:18] <RAOF> Now I curse C++ for not having a mkstemp-alike.
[05:11] <duflu> I suspect it does but you really don't want to see it
[05:11]  * duflu --> doctor
[06:41] <tvoss> RAOF, ping
[06:41] <RAOF> tvoss: Pong.
[06:41] <tvoss> RAOF, good morning :) did you have a chance to have a look at: https://code.launchpad.net/~robertcarr/mir/receive-input-in-client/+merge/155368
[06:41] <tvoss> RAOF, you are the remaining "needs fixing" :)
[06:41] <RAOF> I'll do so now.
[06:42]  * RAOF was working through the mesa changes needed for in-process EGL, but I guess input can preempt that.
[06:43] <tvoss> RAOF, sorry for pulling you out of something else, but I think we should land the mp, it has been up for so long and Robert has been addressing almost all reviewer comments :)
[06:43] <RAOF> This is a fair call.
[06:44] <RAOF> I know how that is :)
[06:44] <duflu> "almost all" is probably sufficient. We will make better progress if we don't try to reach 100% perfection on every proposal. Just iterate
[06:45] <tvoss> agreed, the important part of the mp is the end-end test of input
[06:46] <tvoss> which allows us to pick up pace on integrating input
[06:47] <duflu> It would be cool to be able to finally write clients that use the mouse ;)
[07:10] <tvoss> duflu, it works with a mouse :) however, no cursor is rendered ;)
[07:10] <duflu> Hah. Yeah forgot that part
[07:11] <duflu> See also https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1109921
[07:11] <tvoss> duflu, any input device that does not require a screen setup to be present is working :)
[07:11] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1109921 in Mir "Mouse pointer flickers in xmir. Looks like "HW cursor" is not in HW." [Medium,New]
[07:11] <duflu> tvoss: So we can write the first Mir game :)
[07:12] <tvoss> duflu, of course, or better: integrate with sdl 2.0 to unblock all the fancy game engines
[07:12] <duflu> What game engines depend on SDL?
[07:12] <duflu> Aside from amateur ones?
[07:13] <duflu> Never mind. SDL is pretty widely used. I might have overstepped the mark there
[07:14] <tvoss> duflu, :)
[07:14] <duflu> I know that QEMU used SDL exclusively for a long time
[07:15] <tvoss> duflu, I wasn't aware of that
[07:15] <duflu> And QEMU is one of the many definitions of "awesome"
[07:15] <tvoss> yup
[07:16] <duflu> Another definition is "Fabrice Bellard"
[08:21] <tvoss> alan_g, can I get you to do another review of https://code.launchpad.net/~robertcarr/mir/receive-input-in-client/+merge/155368
[08:21] <tvoss> ?
[08:22] <alan_g> tvoss: OK when I get off call
[08:22] <tvoss> alan_g, ack :)
[08:44]  * RAOF wonders whether eglGetProcAddress makes in-process-egl any harder.
[08:44] <RAOF> Then decides that it's 7:45pm, and that can wait for tomorrow.
[09:01] <alan_g> tvoss: approved
[09:01] <tvoss> alan_g, thx
[10:14] <tvoss> alf_, can you have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1116452
[10:14] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1116452 in Mir "gbm returns byte unit stride, android returns pixel unit stride" [Medium,New]
[10:14] <tvoss> alf_, I remember some discussion around it, is it fixed?
[10:15] <alf_> tvoss: no, the decision was to change Android to return byte unit stride too, but I don't think anything has been done. I will ping kdub, though. He may have started working on it.
[10:16] <tvoss> alf_, ack, fine with you if I assign the bug to you and you change to kdub if appropriate?
[10:16] <tvoss> ah, already assigned :)
[10:16] <tvoss> alf_, setting the status to confirmed, though
[10:49]  * duflu falls off chair
[10:50] <alan_g> "* duflu falls off chair" - what was that about?
[10:55] <ogra_> cheap chairs ?
[11:40] <smspillaz> it happens
[12:36] <kgunn> tvoss: thank you for pushing the mp on client input...
[12:36] <tvoss> kgunn, yw
[14:00] <thiagoandrade> I'm try
[14:01] <thiagoandrade> I'm trying to compile Mir but I'm getting the error "/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.6/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/libEGL.so: undefined reference for `mir_egl_native_display_is_valid'". Anyone knows how to solve that?
[14:18] <thiagoandrade> Anyone here who can help me?
[14:18] <smspillaz> thiagoandrade: you probably need to compile mesa with the mir patches. Ask racarr when he's around
[14:20] <thiagoandrade> smspillaz, isn't there a way of using their repositories to install Mesa?
[14:20] <alan_g> smspillaz: thiagoandrade the PPA should have a mesa that supports compiling
[14:20] <smspillaz> yeah, that :)
[14:21] <thiagoandrade> I've added the PPA to my system but waht shoul I do after adding the PPA?
[14:21] <smspillaz> thiagoandrade: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[14:21] <smspillaz> you'll just need to make sure you don't have a locally installed mesa in your PKG_CONFIG_PATH or LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[14:21] <smspillaz> (eg, through compiling)
[14:22] <thiagoandrade> smspillaz, Let me try that. Thanks
[14:24] <alan_g> thiagoandrade: http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/installing_prebuilt_on_pc.html
[15:06] <kdub> good morning, status reworked some sizing for hwc devices in the process of getting the fb native window out of 3rd_party
[15:11] <alan_g> good afternoon, status: reviewing and chasing down memory leaks in use of glog/gflags
[15:26] <alf_> status: more main loop work and discussion, reviewing
[16:31] <alf_> kdub: @display-sizing, l289, is the first expectation targeted for the HW11Device constructor, and the second for the display_size() call?
[16:33] <alf_> kdub: or is the first one just to set up the environment, not actually part of the test?
[16:34] <kdub> alf_, yes
[16:34] <kdub> alf_, i guess that expectation could be removed
[16:36] <alf_> kdub: it's ok, I was just wondering if it makes sense to put a Mock::VerifyAndClearExpectations() before the second expectation
[16:37] <alf_> kdub: to ensure that getDisplayConfigs_interface is called in the constructor, but since it's more of an environment setup it doesn't matter
[17:05] <kdub> kgunn, tvoss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ_iIZg4Xbw
[17:06] <thiagoandrade> I followed this http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/installing_prebuilt_on_pc.html and then thishttp://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/using_mir_on_pc.html. But When I try to run Mir on VT1 I get an error "mir: error while loading shared libraries: libandroid-input.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[17:06] <kgunn> kdub: freaking awesome!!!
[17:07] <thiagoandrade> The problem is that I can't find such package in the repositories.
[17:07] <kdub> kgunn, :) sorry for the shaky camera, bad lighting and narration :P
[17:07] <tvoss> kdub, epic :)
[17:08] <kdub> thiagoandrade, build system bug, let me try to find the number
[17:08] <tvoss> kdub, is this using the hwc :)
[17:08] <kdub> thiagoandrade, https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1164253
[17:08] <racarr> morning
[17:08] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1164253 in Mir "mir links to libandroid-input.so, but does not package it or Depend on a package that provides it" [High,In progress]
[17:08] <kdub> tvoss, hwc 1.1 with gpu composition
[17:09] <tvoss> kdub, so the composition is accelerated?
[17:09] <kdub> well, its always been accelerated, now it just doesn't flicker and tear and look bad
[17:09] <tvoss> kdub, cool :)
[17:09] <tvoss> kdub, let me share on google+ :)
[17:12] <kgunn> kdub: dude...you realize everyone's gonna want play with that config...like, now :)
[17:14] <kdub> they can play with our egltriangle demo much more easily :)
[17:15] <kgunn> kdub: i just shared with unity ui guys...everyones pumped!
[17:16] <kgunn> kdub: look so nice...like buttah!...no jank or tears...nice work man
[17:17] <thiagoandrade> kdub, Sorry had to do something. Let me check that bug.
[17:18] <kdub> kgunn, thanks!
[17:19] <thiagoandrade> kdub, Basically that means I can't build Mir?
[17:19] <kdub> thiagoandrade, its built, it just doesn't install one of the .so's in the right place
[17:27] <thiagoandrade> kdub, I don't know if I'm gonna be of any help, but I was hoping I could help in the development of Mir. The problem is that until now I've not been able to build and run Mir.
[17:28] <kdub> thiagoandrade, well, hopefully its easier when there aren't bugs. if you're using our guides, and something doesn't make sense, a good way to help would be to submit a patch (once you've figured it out) to the doc/ folder in lp:mir
[17:30] <racarr> It should work fine it built from source yes?
[17:32] <kdub> yes, i think so... but there's gotchas that I'd guess aren't documented
[17:34] <thiagoandrade> So building from source I should not get that error, right?
[17:34] <racarr> Right :)
[17:35] <thiagoandrade> So I'm trying that. Let you know if I got any problem ;)
[17:39] <racarr> Great.
[17:49] <thiagoandrade> racarr, I got this error on 51% of the build: "Built target mir_demo_client_unaccelerated /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.6/../../../x86_64-linux-gnu/libEGL.so: undefined reference of `mir_egl_native_display_is_valid'"
[17:50] <racarr> thiagoandrade: Hrm maybe something landed that wasn't supposed to
[17:50] <racarr> looking
[17:52] <racarr> thiagoandrade: I don't know whats going on. my guess is we need to remove the mesa in the ppa
[17:52] <racarr> rebuild*
[17:52] <racarr> though I'm not sure how it could be broken like that...
[17:53] <thiagoandrade> racarr, Is there a manual or guide to compile the custom mesa I need?
[17:53] <racarr> thiagoandrade: https://github.com/RAOF/mesa
[17:53] <racarr>  ./configure --disable-gallium-egl --enable-gles2 --with-egl-platforms=x11,drm,mir,wayland --enable-gbm --enable-shared-glapi --with-gallium-drivers=r300,r600
[17:54] <racarr> perhaps change --with-gallium-drivers
[17:54] <racarr> thiagoandrade: In this case...you might need to install
[17:54] <racarr> libmirclient from your partial build (so you can build mesa)
[17:54] <racarr> i.e. go to build/src/client. make install
[17:54] <racarr> then will be enough to build and install mesa
[17:54] <racarr> then I bet mir build will finish
[17:54] <racarr> will try and make sure the ppas are updated this afternoon :)
[17:55] <thiagoandrade> Ok, I'll try. Let you know. ;)
[19:13] <racarr> Got a qml terminal emulator (https://github.com/jorgen/yat) running with input
[19:13] <racarr> was able to type and initiate tab completion (and modifiers and stuff work!)
[19:13] <racarr> somehow enter doesn't work though
[19:13] <racarr> not sure where the problem is
[19:16] <kgunn> racarr: weird....like the button(ui) depresses...but nothing handles it?...or you literally don't even see the event?
[19:20] <racarr> kgunn: Like the terminal emulator relied on an old Qt behavior
[19:20] <racarr> where translating Key_Enter to string would produce \n
[19:20] <racarr> now it seems it doesnt
[19:20] <racarr> thats my best guess :) I got it working
[19:21] <kgunn> cool
[19:21] <kgunn> nice to see stuff falling together
[19:24] <racarr> hmm
[19:24] <racarr> not enough keys work for emacs to work
[19:25] <racarr> Im going to try and get enough key mapping to work to make emacs work
[19:25] <racarr> then write a demo shell that can alt tab then I can uninstall X11
[19:26] <tvoss> racarr, that needs to go to the quotes wall :)
[19:27] <racarr> :D
[19:29] <thomi> morning folks
[19:29] <racarr> Morrrnin!
[19:34] <thomi> racarr: are you able to comment on this please? https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/mir/shared-android-input/+merge/157017
[19:35] <thomi> I need the mir packages to work before I can complete my glmark work :-/
[20:29] <thomi> robert_ancell: are you around?
[20:29] <robert_ancell> thomi, yes, otp at the moment
[20:30] <robert_ancell> thomi, free now
[20:30] <thomi> robert_ancell: OK, when you get a minute, do you mind if I approve this MP of yours to fix the packaging? https://code.launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/mir/shared-android-input/+merge/157017
[20:30] <racarr> There was a reason it was shared originally but maybe it has mysteriously resolved itself
[20:30] <robert_ancell> thomi, sure, I'm not sure what Jenkins is complaining about
[20:31] <robert_ancell> thomi, I just merged to see if that would help but it has now
[20:31] <robert_ancell> not
[20:31]  * thomi pushes the big red button
[20:31] <robert_ancell> :)
[20:31] <thomi> done
[20:32] <racarr> We merged it with failing jenkins?
[20:32] <racarr> I dont think that was a good idea -.- the merge fail is probably like
[20:32] <racarr> jenkins fail*
[20:32] <racarr> well how is anything else going to pass jenkins now?
[20:32] <thomi> racarr: jenkins will do a proper merge, build, test before merging it into trunk
[20:32] <thomi> autolanding != CI
[20:32] <racarr> oh
[20:33] <racarr> I thought when you said the big red button
[20:33] <racarr> you meant you were just like
[20:33] <robert_ancell> big red override :)
[20:33] <racarr> pushing ;)
[20:33] <thomi> sorry, I meant "I'm approving the MP"
[20:33] <thomi> words 'n stuff
[21:46] <thomi> robert_ancell: So your branch didn't land, and I think the problem is that g++ segfaults :-/
[21:47] <robert_ancell> thomi, ech!
[21:47] <thomi> at least, on my machine, I'm unable to build your branch due to g++ segfaulting
[21:49] <RAOF> thomi: Segfaulting, or suffering an Internal Compiler Error?
[21:49] <robert_ancell> thomi, is it a memory issue?
[21:49] <thomi> robert_ancell: segfaulting
[21:49] <robert_ancell> thomi, yeah but due to running out of memory?
[21:49] <thomi> robert_ancell: I have 16GB or memory, so I sure hope not ;)
[21:49] <robert_ancell> I don't think so then :)
[21:50]  * robert_ancell rebuilds again to check here
[21:50] <thomi> will go make coffee while this build chruns through
[21:50] <thomi> *churns
[21:53] <kgunn> thomi: it might chrun...you never know
[21:54] <RAOF> kgunn: Oh, StevenK (A launchpad guy) told me that the issue that was preventing you from deleting a bunch of milestones has been resolved now, so you can go ahead and do whatever deletion takes your fancy.
[21:55] <kgunn> sweet...now duflu will be less annoyed
[21:56] <kgunn> hmmm....it remembered....already deleted
[21:56] <robert_ancell> thomi, hmm, it fails here now
[21:57] <robert_ancell> kgunn, oh, I worked around the LP issue by moving the milestone then disabling it
[22:01] <racarr> hmm
[22:01] <racarr> I can't figure out how Shift+4 is becoming $ on the phablet.
[22:03] <robert_ancell> racarr, thomi, does this segfault mean anything to you? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5678081/
[22:07] <thomi> robert_ancell: ahhh, I just noticed that it is indeed the acceptance tests failing. Not sure how I missed that before
[22:12] <thomi> robert_ancell: so we're trying to destroy an android::KeyCharacterMap at program exit, and that fails for some reason
[22:14] <thomi> robert_ancell: maybe we can try without the global data..?
[22:14]  * thomi looks through the source code
[22:36] <thomi> robert_ancell: this is really odd - trunk works fine, something about building the input library as a static lib is causing the acceptance tests to fail, and then segfault.
[22:36] <thomi> I think I'll leave this in your more capable hands :)
[22:36] <robert_ancell> thomi, lucky me! :)
[22:36] <thomi> heh
[22:40] <racarr> thomi: I think it has to do with the binary linking against both libmirserver
[22:40] <racarr> and libmirclient
[22:40] <racarr> and libandroidinputtransport
[22:40] <racarr> and some sort of
[22:40] <racarr> static initializer double something scenario
[22:40] <racarr> I dunno I saw it and was like "Oh this needs to be a shared library"
[22:40] <racarr> and thats why its a shared library ;)
[22:40] <racarr> thats as deep as I went
[22:41] <racarr> im tired of fiddling with the (due to be replaced)
[22:42] <racarr> android keymapping system
[22:42] <racarr> so I am going to go ahead and just replace it with libxkb-common
[22:42] <racarr> eta ~1 day
[22:43] <RAOF> racarr: Woo!
[22:43] <RAOF> racarr: Remember to badger daniels (in #xorg-devel or elsewhere on freenode) about any limitations/problems in libxkbcommon you find. :)
[22:47] <racarr> RAOF: It seems really easy
[22:47] <racarr> the only question is where exactly to do it
[22:47] <racarr> oh
[22:48] <RAOF> We do it client-side, right?
[22:48] <racarr> I think just qtubuntu is fine for now.
[22:48] <racarr> yeah
[22:48] <racarr> The thing is
[22:48] <racarr> is it part of MirEvent
[22:48] <RAOF> (Possibly with an optimisation to build the mapping-table server-side and share it with clients)
[22:48] <racarr> or is it double client side
[22:49] <RAOF> Do you mean - do we make clients manually apply the keymap?
[22:50] <racarr> I guess right, is it part of the toolkits job
[22:50] <RAOF> Or do we show them shiny pre-processed, gleamingly mapped keys?
[22:50] <racarr> or does MirKeyEvent include like
[22:50] <racarr> uint32_t unicode or whatever
[22:50] <racarr> yeah
[22:51] <racarr> I guess
[22:51] <RAOF> My feeling is that MirKeyEvent should emit fully-processed unicode.
[22:51] <racarr> why be a jerk and make every toolkit do it
[22:51] <racarr> yeah
[22:51] <RAOF> Anything that wants to preprocess the stream (input methods, etc) has to go through the shell.
[22:51] <RAOF> Because the *shell* gets to see raw scancodes, right?
[22:52] <racarr> well
[22:52] <racarr> presumably KeyEvent has like
[22:52] <racarr> uint32_t keycode, uint32_t unicode
[22:52] <racarr> in the case of
[22:52] <racarr> evdev->xkb
[22:53] <racarr> the distinction between the scan and key code is kind of weird/unclear
[22:53] <racarr> and mostly involves adding 8
[22:53] <RAOF> Heh.
[22:54] <RAOF> So, question - composing characters. I've got <menu> set as the compose key, so when I hit <menu>e" I get ë.
[22:54] <RAOF> Here we have three key events turning into a single uint32_t unicode.
[22:54] <RAOF> What does Mir send?
[22:54] <racarr> a KeyEvent but instead of action
[22:54] <racarr> down or up
[22:54] <racarr> EVENT_ACTION_MULTIPLE
[22:54] <racarr> keycode is 0
[22:54] <racarr> and unicode is the only useful field
[22:55] <racarr> it's the same sort of thing as when
[22:55] <racarr> hey wait
[22:55] <racarr> eh nvm
[22:55] <racarr> thinking about weird onscreen keyboard things :)
[22:56] <RAOF> evdev is sending you three complete down+up pairs, plus modifiers - <menu>down/up, <e>down/up, <shift>down, <'>down/up, <shift>up.
[22:56] <RAOF> The client probably only wants to see ë.
[22:57] <RAOF> (*Most* clients; games and maybe other things want to see the full event stream)
[23:00] <RAOF> Or, I guess more accurately - most clients do *not* want to act on the <e>down/up and shift+<'>down/up.
[23:01] <RAOF> racarr: We should probably ask desrt about what he thinks would be maximally awesome.
[23:02] <racarr> Mm
[23:02] <racarr> Why isn't he here
[23:22] <racarr> difficult to write test this xkbcommon stuff...
[23:22] <racarr> the tests for*
[23:23] <racarr> code is pretty straightforward I think
[23:28] <RAOF> Would a change to xkbcommon make the tests easier?
[23:30] <racarr> If it were all mockable XD I dunno
[23:30] <racarr> ill think about it
[23:39] <racarr> there are so many options rather than take 2 days and try and figure it all out myself
[23:39] <racarr> I am going to take 2 hours and make a prototype branch
[23:39] <racarr> and ask for comment :)
[23:39] <RAOF> racarr: I mention this because Daniel has explicitly asked me to be notified of any annoyances we have with using xkbcommon; if there's something that would make our lives easier...
[23:40] <racarr> Good to know :)
[23:47] <RAOF> So, I think my solution for mesa's in-process-egl changes is to have a EGLPlatformType→Drv map in EGLModule, and construct a new driver iff there's not currently a driver for that platform.
[23:48] <RAOF> I don't believe that violates any spec, won't leak drivers, and we should even be able to have it transparently unload drivers if the last-using display gets closed.
[23:50] <racarr> RAOF: Seems like the right thing to do
[23:51] <racarr> RAOF: Do you have some time to work on it or do you want me to plan on it?
[23:51] <RAOF> I should be able to do it today.
[23:51] <racarr> oh great :)
[23:51] <RAOF> We can land that and use-dma-buf at the same time :)
[23:52] <RAOF> (Incidentally, feel like reviewing that? You're the last "needs fixing")
[23:55] <racarr> RAOF: Will in 15-20 minutes
[23:55] <racarr> feel like I am close to unwinding my thought and getting a solid plan on key-mapping
[23:55] <RAOF> Woot!
[23:55] <RAOF> No huge rush, unless you plan to land changes that conflict again :P


[09:35] <hannie> hey CarstenG could you help me with something?
[09:35] <CarstenG> Hi Hannie
[09:36] <CarstenG> Sure, what is your problem?
[09:39] <hannie> CarstenG, can you send me a list of all the screenshots, and their correct names?
[09:39] <hannie> I need them for the Dutch screenshots
[09:42] <CarstenG> You get the list if you do a "make ubuntu-manual-nl.pdf"
[09:42] <hannie> really?
[09:42] <hannie> I'll do it immediately (never noticed this :( )
[09:43] <CarstenG> Yes, all the missing screenshots are listed after the make run :-)
[09:43] <hannie> But I do not need the missing screenshots, but all of them
[09:43] <hannie> with their names
[09:44] <CarstenG> Well, then clean the screenshots/nl folder, do the make run, and you have all names
[09:45] <hannie> I see names of 10 screenshots after command "make"
[09:45] <hannie> e.g. screenshots/en_US/02-1210-desktop.png
[09:45] <hannie>  M  screenshots/en_US/02-Launcher-triangles.png
[09:45] <hannie>  M  screenshots/en_US/02-Launcher.png
[09:46] <CarstenG> where are you?
[09:46] <hannie> Those are the ones that were recently modified
[09:46] <CarstenG> in precise?
[09:47] <hannie> yes
[09:47] <hannie> Like this: 01-installation-welcome.png
[09:48] <CarstenG> You should do a "make ubuntu-manual-nl.pdf"
[09:49] <CarstenG> then you get the list of the missing dutch screenshots
[09:49] <CarstenG> a "make" alone creates the english version
[09:50] <hannie> ah, yes, I have just downloaded the finished translation (Precise) from LP
[09:51] <hannie> And I have made a new account with the name "Jan Jansen", the Dutch counterpart of John Doe
[09:51] <hannie> I will put nl.po in \po and see how many errors I get
[09:56] <CarstenG> hopefully none :-)
[09:56] <hannie> ha, only 1 error
[09:57] <CarstenG> For the list you can also move the english pics out of the folder, do a "make" and you get it
[09:58] <hannie> but only 30 pages made :(
[10:02] <CarstenG> fix the error, and try it again
[10:02] <CarstenG> then you get maybe the next one
[10:02] <CarstenG> its a long and iterative way...
[10:03] <hannie> I am currently trying to find it. Perhaps I found it
[10:07] <CarstenG> I tried it to now
[10:07] <CarstenG> The first error I get is:
[10:07] <CarstenG> ! LaTeX Error: There's no line here to end.
[10:07] <CarstenG> See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
[10:07] <CarstenG> Type  H <return>  for immediate help.
[10:07] <CarstenG>  ...
[10:07] <CarstenG>
[10:07] <CarstenG> l.35 \\n
[10:07] <CarstenG>         ewglossaryentry{encryption}{name={encryption}, description={Encrypti...
[10:08] <CarstenG> so go to the nl.po file and search for "newglossaryentry{encryption}"
[10:08] <CarstenG> and there you see that there is a backslash to much (\\)
[10:10] <CarstenG> then do a "make clean" and start the game again :-)
[10:20] <CarstenG> Hannie, you could also try Kevin's new build script to check the translation
[10:20] <hannie> where can I find this script?
[10:20] <CarstenG> Copy it from the quantal branch to precise
[10:20] <hannie> right
[10:20] <CarstenG> And then do a "./build -L nl -c"
[10:21] <CarstenG> But this is much in progress, so it will not yet find all errors.
[10:24] <hannie> I will do a make clean first after having corrected this error
[10:26] <hannie> I made the classical mistake: I was so used to /Projects/ubuntu-manual-quantal that I went to the wrong directory :(
[10:27] <CarstenG> :-) this happens
[10:32] <hannie> I do get 149 pages now although the terminal says:
[10:32] <hannie> Output written on ubuntu-manual-nl.pdf (25 pages).
[10:33] <hannie> 1 error remaining (perhaps the classic ??:?? Have to check that
[10:39] <CarstenG> Well, the two ?? means, there are missing references in the document, but the creation would finish in this case. If it ends with "Output written on ubuntu-manual-nl.pdf (25 pages)." then you have real errors in it, like missing { brackets or undefined commands.
[10:40] <hannie> yeah, it already gives me a headache (I knew it wouldn't be a piece of cake)
[10:43] <hannie> Ha: output is: Output written on ubuntu-manual-nl.pdf (151 pages).
[10:43] <hannie> make: *** [ubuntu-manual-nl.pdf] Error 1
[10:46] <CarstenG> well, the interesting part is in above this message. :-)
[10:47] <CarstenG> Start reading the log output from the beginning, there you will find the real error message, like missing { brackets or so
[10:47] <hannie> Will do this
[11:06] <hannie> Haven't found the answer to this: Missing character: There is no  in font Linux Libertine
[11:10] <hannie> CarstenG, I found and corrected a few errors.
[11:10] <hannie> Result: 151 pages/make: Error 1
[11:10] <hannie> CarstenG, I have to go now. Will continue later. Thanks for your help so far