[09:52] <Frederick> how do I remove something from /var/.locks in ubuntu? Ive closed a window of a terminal with apt
[09:52] <HawkeVIPER> it's a personal thing
[09:52] <HawkeVIPER> I use xfce
[09:52] <pfp> cary: now we need to find out why the source wasn't extracted properly
[09:52] <HawkeVIPER> try it
[09:52] <cary> pfp, joy of joys
[09:52] <HawkeVIPER> if you hate it
[09:52] <Jimbob> bluemax: Apparently you can install those fonts (with both the pfm and pfb files) by copying them to ~/.fonts
[09:52] <jesse1> thoreauputic: http://pastebin.com/301297
[09:52] <HawkeVIPER> don't use it
[09:52] <hondje> bummer, another odd crash in firefox
[09:52] <hondje> also reproducable, but I'm thinking it's not firefox, but something local .... hrm
[09:52] <cary> pfp, is it possible i mis-typed?
[09:52] <hondje> and comcast is dead again.
[09:52] <xed> Who wants to help me?
[09:52] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: when does it crash?
[09:52] <HawkeVIPER> on java crap?
[09:53] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: When I try to accept a certificate for all time
[09:53] <pfp> cary: hmm, prolly not
[09:53] <HawkeVIPER> mmph
[09:53] <hondje> Got a core and everything, but I'm thinking something is really screwy on my end.
[09:53] <pfp> cary: rm -rf linux-source-2.6.11
[09:53] <HawkeVIPER> could be perms issue
[09:53] <bluemax> Jimbob: ok....
[09:53] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: Perms where?
[09:53] <HawkeVIPER> in your profile dir
[09:54] <HawkeVIPER> check bugs.mozilla.org
[09:54] <pfp> cary: after that: tar xpjf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.11.tar.bz2 > tar.out 2>&1
[09:54] <cary> pfp, doesnt tell me anythign
[09:54] <cary> oaky
[09:54] <microhaxo> ok
[09:54] <microhaxo> i dloaded englightenment
[09:54] <microhaxo> how do i get it to work?
[09:54] <cary> permission denied
[09:54] <thoreauputic> jesse1: looks like someone goofed: I don't know how you can get that to build
[09:54] <microhaxo> i installed it
[09:54] <pfp> pfp: usually if unix commands succeed, they just keep quiet
[09:54] <cary> oh i gues sim not running as root pfp
[09:54] <cary> its got my user name
[09:54] <microhaxo> sudo
[09:54] <Jimbob> microhaxo: Go to Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor
[09:54] <cary> cary@lnx
[09:54] <pfp> cary: you don't need to, actually it's better not to
[09:55] <thoreauputic> jesse1: the compiler doesn't like it, evidently
[09:55] <microhaxo> k
[09:55] <cary> oka
[09:55] <Jimbob> microhaxo: In /desktop/gnome/applications (I think) there should be a window manager key.
[09:55] <microhaxo> k
[09:55] <jesse1> thoreauputic: yea, maybe i could email the devloper to make a .deb file for it
[09:55] <cary> brb..root beer
[09:55] <r0d> anyone know about making gimp look like photoshop?
[09:55] <Frederick> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:55] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: nope, that wasn't it, but thanks for the thought.  I'd hate to file another bug, since I'm thinking all my problems are related somehow
[09:55] <Frederick> guys apt-is locked here
[09:56] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: it's not supposed to...
[09:56] <microhaxo> what do i do with the key?
[09:56] <hondje> Frederick: is synaptic running?
[09:56] <pfp> cary: you got permission denied from the  'rm -rf ...' ?
[09:56] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: I didn't mean file
[09:56] <HawkeVIPER> check the bug list
[09:56] <thoreauputic> Frederick: close all instances of apt/synaptic
[09:56] <microhaxo> Jimbob, waht do i do with the keyS?
[09:56] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: Ah, roger that ;)
[09:56] <Frederick> hondje: no
[09:56] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  theirs a hack that does make it.
[09:56] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: mmm, check the gimp site
[09:56] <cary> when i did the previous one pfp
[09:56] <cary> pfp cary@lnx:/usr/src$ rm -rf linux-source-2.6.11
[09:56] <jesse1> fredrick: yes close synaptic or use that to install it for u
[09:56] <cary> it did nothing
[09:56] <cary> when i typed
[09:56] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  right. I'm wondering user feedback guess no one uses it
[09:56] <hondje> Frederick: 'ps aux | grep apt' show anything?
[09:57] <Jimbob> Change /desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager/default to "/usr/bin/enlightenment" (or wherever the enlightenment binary got installed)
[09:57] <microhaxo> Jimbob: what do i do with these keys?
[09:57] <cary> cary@lnx:/usr/src$ tar xpjf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.11.tar.bz2 > tar.out 2>&1
[09:57] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: I don't tend to use gimp all that much
[09:57] <HawkeVIPER> I trained on PS
[09:57] <cary> bash: tar.out: Permission denied
[09:57] <HawkeVIPER> can't break the habit
[09:57] <HawkeVIPER> lol
[09:57] <Jimbob> Then log out and log back in
[09:57] <r0d> hehe
[09:57] <microhaxo> k
[09:57] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  it would be one less reason to use windows
[09:57] <HawkeVIPER> indeed
[09:57] <pfp> cary: aah... now i gets it, get out of /usr/src (you could do it there too, but let's try to keep this simple)
[09:57] <tiglionabbit> crossover office claims to support PhotoShop
[09:57] <cary> pfp okay
[09:57] <jesse1> too bad theres no linux photoshop
[09:57] <cary> pfp where to
[09:58] <Frederick> Im trying to install kdevelop3
[09:58] <HawkeVIPER> still... I keep KHAMELEON a windows box for compatibility
[09:58] <ompaul> HawkeVIPER, being trained to put ones hand in the fire does not mean that you should :)
[09:58] <Frederick> and apt wants to update all my packages
[09:58] <HawkeVIPER> sometimes I'm forced to test crap using windows
[09:58] <HawkeVIPER> ompaul: true, but I really cba to relearn how to do everything I can already do in seconds on PS
[09:58] <pfp> cary: go to your home folder, then 'mkdir kernel ; cd kernel'
[09:58] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  same here. I administer a window network:(
[09:59] <r0d> the tux stands alone...
[09:59] <thoreauputic> Frederick: apt generally knows what it's doing
[09:59] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: sucky for you... at least in my job, I'm primarily a linux admin
[09:59] <pfp> cary: then re-run that tar...  command
[09:59] <tiglionabbit> r0d: heard of Samba?
[09:59] <microhaxo> err
[09:59] <HawkeVIPER> although, we've started to deal with windows now too =/
[09:59] <Frederick> thoreauputic: I dont consider open office as a dep for kdevelop
[09:59] <microhaxo> Jimbob:
[09:59] <cary> cary@lnx:/$ mkdir kernal ; cd kernel
[09:59] <cary> mkdir: cannot create directory `kernal': Permission denied
[09:59] <cary> bash: cd: kernel: No such file or directory
[09:59] <microhaxo> ah
[09:59] <r0d> tiglionabbit,  yea, but my boss didnt
[09:59] <cary> ahhaah
[09:59] <cary> i used an a
[09:59] <microhaxo> it didnt do anything?
[09:59] <HawkeVIPER> the only unfortunate thing about samba
[10:00] <Jimbob> Umm, try changing the "current" key to /usr/bin/enlightenment
[10:00] <cary> i tried just the first command
[10:00] <cary> it said permission denied, pfp
[10:00] <HawkeVIPER> is the way it goes D if you're connected to a windows share from a linux box and the windows share reboots
[10:00] <thoreauputic> Frederick: heh - what command are you using  to install kdevelop?
[10:00] <Jimbob> (then logout/log back in)
[10:00] <pfp> cary: umm, you're in the root directory (/) now, you should be in your home (/home/yourusername)
[10:00] <cary> ahha
[10:00] <Mistic_Warrior> bonjour tout le monde
[10:00] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  that is a downer
[10:00] <Mistic_Warrior> a va bien =
[10:00] <pfp> cary: type just 'cd' by itself to get there
[10:00] <cary> pfp, could do like cd /~ to make it sure
[10:00] <cary> ahha
[10:00] <HawkeVIPER> yeah
[10:00] <cary> never
[10:01] <cary> mind
[10:01] <microhaxo> Jimbob: didnt do anything?
[10:01] <microhaxo> i have a black background
[10:01] <Mistic_Warrior> Vous parlez pas franais ?
[10:01] <microhaxo> thats it
[10:01] <HawkeVIPER> Mistic_Warrior: parle anglais svp
[10:01] <Mistic_Warrior> why ?
[10:01] <Jimbob> microhaxo: Hrm.
[10:01] <thoreauputic> Mistic_Warrior: bonjour - /join #ubuntu-fr :)
[10:01] <r0d> i will say one good thing(only) good about windows is its really easy to admin several boxes
[10:01] <HawkeVIPER> because this is an english chan?
[10:01] <Mistic_Warrior> ok thx
[10:01] <microhaxo> k
[10:01] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: indeed
[10:01] <Jimbob> microhaxo: Beats me then, I haven't used enlightenment in years.
[10:01] <HawkeVIPER> it has some major picky ass issues at times tho
[10:02] <cary> okay finally
[10:02] <Jimbob> r0d: No worse than Linux (and if you're using remote X / NFS root it's actually harder)
[10:02] <cary> ~/kernel exists
[10:02] <Mistic_Warrior> sry I mustn't car about the language of the chan... :D
[10:02] <Mistic_Warrior> car [10:02] <HawkeVIPER> Jimbob: why would you use remote X?
[10:02] <pfp> cary: great, go to that directory, then the tar... thing
[10:02] <Mistic_Warrior> so good word :)
[10:02] <microhaxo> lol
[10:02] <r0d> Jimbob, I used NFS. theirs alot more overhead. not saying i wouldnt use it
[10:02] <Mistic_Warrior> work
[10:03] <Jimbob> HawkeVIPER: So you only have to install apps on one box
[10:03] <HawkeVIPER> ooh, ya
[10:03] <HawkeVIPER> gotcha
[10:03] <HawkeVIPER> sorry... been a very long night
[10:03] <Frederick> how do I set all my system back to english?
[10:03] <cary> pfp, done
[10:03] <cary> pfp, i am getting no output
[10:03] <HawkeVIPER> why do I get th efeeling that I'm about to start chasing dependancies...
[10:03] <pfp> cary: ok, that's good
[10:03] <signius> Does anyone know of a free NFS serve rthat will run on windows server to do linux installs i have ha d abit of a look abotu but all the products ive seen appear to be comercial
[10:04] <cary> pfp, (i need a cpu meter so i can tell what is going on)
[10:04] <HawkeVIPER> signius: check download.com
[10:04] <signius> wow bad typing today
[10:04] <HawkeVIPER> I'm 99% certain there is on elisted there
[10:04] <jesse1> is there anyway i can save all the packages ive downloaded so i can take them over to my friends house? since hes got slow internet.
[10:04] <microhaxo> err
[10:04] <xxenon> will 2.6.12 (out now) be an officially supported kernel ?
[10:04] <microhaxo> anyone
[10:04] <Jimbob> r0d: Eh, NFS is still less overhead than SMB/remote profiles
[10:04] <microhaxo> can anyone help me get Enlightenment running, i have installed it fine in synamtic or what not
[10:04] <pfp> cary: when it's finished, there should be exactly one dir, named linux-source-2.6.11
[10:04] <hondje> NFS is lovely :-)
[10:04] <thoreauputic> jesse1: they should be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:04] <HawkeVIPER> smb and NFS both have ugly overheads
[10:05] <HawkeVIPER> doesn't matter which way you cut it
[10:05] <Jimbob> hondje: Naw, NFS sucks -- it just sucks less
[10:05] <cary> im back to prompt
[10:05] <xed> I need some serious help
[10:05] <hondje> NFS over ssh tunnel is great
[10:05] <signius> ZERO results for NFS under a windows search
[10:05] <cary> it says
[10:05] <xed> I need some serious help
[10:05] <ompaul> microhaxo, so log out and choose it for your session
[10:05] <hondje> Easy to set up, secure enough to use, etc
[10:05] <jesse1> thoreauputic: so all i do is copy that folder and paste it in there on my friends computer?
[10:05] <hondje> signius: SFU does NFS afaik
[10:05] <cary> pfp, linux-source-2.6.11  tar.out
[10:05] <cary> i dont know what the tar.out is but there is only the one dir pfp
[10:05] <xed> The screen locks up on bootup; I'm using gnome
[10:06] <thoreauputic> jesse1: umm... well I would read the apt-howto first if I were you ;) sudo apt-get install apt-howto
[10:06] <r0d> Jimbob,  I wouldnt doubt. but NFS vs Windows, windows was is easier. now security is another matter
[10:06] <r0d> *-was
[10:06] <cary> pfp, btw..where in the world are you? i am in the state of alabama. (i know i know. it sounds hickish. birmingham is quite nice though)
[10:06] <pfp> cary: ah yes, good... do an 'ls -l', tar.out should have zero size
[10:06] <xed> It was working fine before I installed the nvidia drivers.. anyone know how I can get back to the default settings?
[10:06] <signius> whats SFU ?
[10:06] <Jimbob> r0d: I just got done moving from NT4 -> Samba+LDAP
[10:06] <ompaul> xed you asked for help with gnome - not nvidia - the reason I do not use nvidia is because they do not release enough information to the community to allow us use the cards we bought - this is not good
[10:06] <cary> pfp, it does have a 0 size
[10:06] <r0d> Jimbob, ok NT4 is hell in a box
[10:07] <xed> ompaul, aye, but this problem JUST occurred
[10:07] <ompaul> xed I suggest that you have a look at the wiki
[10:07] <jesse1> ok ill read that
[10:07] <Jimbob> r0d: Yes, yes it is :-)
[10:07] <hondje> signius: service for unix
[10:07] <xed> ompaul: link?
[10:07] <pfp> cary: i'm in finland miself
[10:07] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: NT4 pwns
[10:07] <HawkeVIPER> lol
[10:07] <cary> pfp, oh man im jealous
[10:07] <HawkeVIPER> NT4... it's not an OS... it's an adventure
[10:07] <r0d> still have nightmares w/ nt4...
[10:07] <hondje> signius: MS has it on their website, and I _think_ it's free now
[10:07] <dreamboy> hello people here
[10:07] <r0d> lol
[10:07] <cary> dreamboy, hello person there
[10:07] <pfp> cary: :D i demand to know why?
[10:07] <r0d> no doubt
[10:07] <Jimbob> r0d: Why? Just because your domain controller randomly locks up... :-)
[10:07] <HawkeVIPER> microsoft... are giving something away... for nothing?
[10:07] <hondje> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserversystem/sfu/default.mspx
[10:08] <signius> actually i think i might have that downlaoded already
[10:08] <ompaul> xed https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:08] <signius> i will go check out exactly whats in it
[10:08] <signius> thanks for the pointer
[10:08] <cary> pfp, because finland to me is unknown and i desire to go to the unknown. i love travelling and as i have never been there, i know not that which i [think i might maybe]  desire
[10:08] <thoreauputic> jesse1: type file:///usr/share/doc/Debian/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.html in your browser to read the howto when it's installed
[10:08] <cary> pfp, either way i want to go there to take photos
[10:08] <HawkeVIPER> erm....
[10:08] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: They give lots of stuff away, like IE :-D
[10:08] <HawkeVIPER> apt should already be installed...
[10:08] <r0d> I wouldnt wish a full NT4 enviroment on my worst enemy. I'd recommend window 3.11 before that
[10:08] <hondje> Perhaps this is their idea of how to stop people from buying *nix
[10:08] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: that's only because they couldn't sell it
[10:09] <jesse1> thoreauputic: how long u been using ubuntu for????
[10:09] <ompaul> cary but it is one of the best monty python songs
[10:09] <cary> thoreauputic, hello again
[10:09] <thoreauputic> HawkeVIPER: I told him yo install the howto :)
[10:09] <cary> ompaul, whcih?
[10:09] <HawkeVIPER> ooh, ok
[10:09] <pfp> cary: welcome, english is widely spoken :P and there's lots of nature & stuff
[10:09] <HawkeVIPER> thoreauputic: there's one on the LDP too
[10:09] <thoreauputic> jesse1: about 6 months - Debian as well for 2 years
[10:09] <ompaul> cary finland
[10:09] <HawkeVIPER> and man apt works
[10:09] <Jimbob> r0d: Well, prior to NT4 it was a NetWare shop
[10:10] <pfp> cary: bout the kernel, you should cd to that linux-source-2.6.11 dir
[10:10] <Jimbob> r0d: Blessedly before my time
[10:10] <cary> pfp, when i get my linux up and running maybe ill book a flight. [WOULD that i had that kind of money lying around]
[10:10] <jesse1> thoreauputic: well ive been using linux since tuesday
[10:10] <cary> pfp, doing that now
[10:10] <cary> pfp, there
[10:10] <microhaxo> Ok
[10:10] <thoreauputic> HawkeVIPER: your point? the apt howto is an excellent resource worth having on your machine
[10:10] <r0d> Jimbob,  I still was playing w/ GI joes when that was out
[10:10] <HawkeVIPER> thoreauputic: my point is you don't need to install it
[10:10] <pfp> cary: mmhm, id' be travelling this very moment, if i had the money :)
[10:10] <HawkeVIPER> generally if you're using apt, you're online
[10:10] <HawkeVIPER> so look at the LDP copy
[10:11] <Jimbob> r0d: I was on AOL, personally
[10:11] <thoreauputic> HawkeVIPER: whatever
[10:11] <microhaxo> is there a list of MUST HAVE APPS that i can get through Synaptic?
[10:11] <pfp> cary: ok, now where's the patch you saved
[10:11] <cary> pfp, lets come up with a massive interntational scheme to steal lots of monies and travel th eworld over
[10:11] <kangpeh> i am very much enjoying this dark theme for gnome ;)
[10:11] <jesse1> thoreauputic: dang thats a long read
[10:11] <r0d> Jimbob,  yea I have that skeleton in my closet too. AOL :( the dark days
[10:11] <thoreauputic> HawkeVIPER: some of us are not always on line and like to read stuff locally
[10:11] <pfp> cary: i'm in, heh
[10:11] <cary> desktop, pfp
[10:12] <r0d> w/ my bad@$$ 28.8kps modem baby!!
[10:12] <ompaul> thoreauputic, and this is invoked how?
[10:12] <HawkeVIPER> thoreauputic: no offense meant man
[10:12] <thoreauputic> jesse1: you can look for what you need in the index, of course
[10:12] <pfp> cary: ok, now to apply your 1st ever kernel patch: patch -p1 ~/Desktop/patchfile
[10:12] <jesse1> thoreaupitc: yea
[10:12] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: heh... I remember 9600baud bbs
[10:12] <r0d> *kbs. spelling is running low today
[10:12] <nickthedick> !ati
[10:12] <ubotu> somebody said ati was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:12] <HawkeVIPER> that r0x0red
[10:12] <cdc> i ve installed ubuntu but i am new to this X-Org so i get display with huge fonts and huge icons how do i configure my desktop for 1024*768
[10:12] <r0d> yikes
[10:12] <ompaul> thoreauputic, and this (apt howto) is invoked how?
[10:12] <Mistic_Warrior> What is for you the best video-reader in linux ? kaffeine doesn't work very good :S
[10:12] <thoreauputic> ompaul: I just go to /usr/share/doc/Debian/apt-howto/apt-howto.en.html
[10:13] <Chetic> what the hell.. where'd my soundcard go?!
[10:13] <nickthedick> !disco
[10:13] <ubotu> nickthedick: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:13] <thoreauputic> ompaul: which is now bookmarked of course...
[10:13] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  whats that lol
[10:13] <cary> pfp, by the by, what is the -pl part of that command
[10:13] <cary> (its patching)
[10:14] <cary> pfp, should i go ahead and apply those other patches on the website before compiling?
[10:14] <r0d> cary,  you still trying to patch your kernel
[10:14] <HawkeVIPER> r0d: back in the day before the internet... Bulletin Boards were huge, 9600baud was a modem speed, roughly 1/4 the speed of 28.8
[10:14] <cdc>  i ve installed ubuntu but i am new to this X-Org so i get display with huge fonts and huge icons how do i configure my desktop for 1024*768
[10:14] <HawkeVIPER> used to spend hours wardialling for BBSs
[10:14] <cary> r0d, yes jerk. and for your information its patching now. [sniff nose and point it to the sky]
[10:14] <r0d> HawkeVIPER,  my god. thats smoking
[10:14] <cary> r0d (told you im new)
[10:14] <HawkeVIPER> oh ya
[10:14] <r0d> cary,  meant nothing by it man
[10:14] <r0d> just asking
[10:14] <cary> r0d (im just kidding too)
[10:14] <xed> Who wants to help me fix this lock up on login/start up issue?
[10:15] <HawkeVIPER> liek fastar then j00r AY DEE ESS EHL
[10:15] <HawkeVIPER> kthx
[10:15] <HawkeVIPER> =P
[10:15] <r0d> ;)
[10:15] <pfp> cary: the patch file contains file names and paths, the -p<number> tells patch the depth of dirs to strip from those paths
[10:15] <cary> r0d (im fairly sarcastic but thats doesnt translate well)
[10:15] <ompaul> thoreauputic, not installed by default - maybe it should be
[10:15] <drummer87> Someone heelp mee... i've donesomething bad and i dunno how to fix it.. my panel has no applets and i get an error when adding them: "The panel encountered a problem while loading 'OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet'."
[10:16] <TokenBad> is there a way to label a dir to a user?
[10:16] <cary> pfp, shoudl it still be patching?
[10:16] <TokenBad> like a command?
[10:16] <cdc> could some one tell me how to change the resolution in Ubuntu?
[10:16] <r0d> no i just didnt read "yes jerk" and blocked everthing else out.
[10:16] <xed> My words always get lost in awkward conversations.
[10:16] <cary> r0d (hope i didnt offend)
[10:16] <HawkeVIPER> TokenBad: you mean set the perms to a user?
[10:16] <HawkeVIPER> or?
[10:16] <ompaul> gota shoot
[10:16] <cdc> i am getting huge fonts and huge icons so please kindly help me
[10:16] <linuxboy> how do I plaf flash? when I install it, it needs ruby...
[10:16] <thoreauputic> ompaul: well, as HawkeVIPER says, it's available on line - there's a copy linked from debian.org for example
[10:16] <pfp> cary: ah, made a typo.. ctrl-c it
[10:16] <TokenBad> yeah like say uploads is a user..and want the dir to be set to his user level
[10:16] <r0d> so how far are you cary ?
[10:16] <Chetic> How do I change which soundcard is the default?
[10:16] <Chetic> which sound device
[10:16] <TokenBad> which happens to be 1001
[10:16] <cary> pfp, done. now what
[10:17] <pfp> cary: then: patch -p1 < ~/Desktop/patchfile
[10:17] <HawkeVIPER> TokenBad: chmod -R 1001:groupid dirname
[10:17] <drummer87> it happened either after i compiled a app for sensors or installed another app from atp-get
[10:17] <cary> done, apparently, pfp
[10:17] <Eighth> my box has been randomly locking up and now apache isn't working.  i checked out the logs and found that libkrb53 appears to be broken.  how do i fix it?
[10:17] <drummer87> pretty sure one of those is the culprit.. is there a way i can restore previous configs for the panel?
[10:18] <xed> HawkeVIPER: want to help me out?
[10:18] <cary> r0d, im not really sure. patch one seems to be applied. i may (?) be applying more, but i dont rightly know
[10:18] <HawkeVIPER> xed: what with sir?
[10:18] <linuxboy> pfp: make kpkg ?
[10:18] <TokenBad> when did chmod -R 1001:1001 uploads1
[10:18] <TokenBad> it gives me invalid
[10:18] <HawkeVIPER> group
[10:18] <HawkeVIPER> yeah
[10:18] <HawkeVIPER> grep 1001 /etc/passwd
[10:18] <linuxboy> pfp: http://wiki.clug.org.za/clugwiki/index.php/How_do_I_compile_my_own_kernel_into_a_deb%3F
[10:18] <HawkeVIPER> find his group id
[10:18] <cary> pfp, i dont knwo about these other patches. my fn key seems to work as it shoudl
[10:18] <drummer87> :(
[10:18] <HawkeVIPER> it'll be like 1001:groupidhere:blah:blah
[10:18] <xed> HawkeVIPER: I need help with this login lockup issue I'm having..
[10:18] <vHintswen> hey
[10:18] <vHintswen> i need help!
[10:19] <vHintswen> my mouse isn't working on Ubuntu
[10:19] <drummer87> can noone help me??
[10:19] <cary> pfp, but hey, id rather my cpu be running on full than crippled
[10:19] <TokenBad> uploads:x:1001:1001:uploads,uploads
[10:19] <Chetic> All my audio applications use the wrong /dev/dsp device, how do I change which one is default?
[10:19] <Eighth> drummer87: be patient... you will get the help you need
[10:19] <r0d> vHintswen,  what type of mouse. ps/2 usb?
[10:19] <xed> HawkeVIPER: The screen locks up as soon as login screen comes up in gnome..
[10:19] <pfp> cary: hmm, if it ain't broken, no need to fix... that cpu patch migh be a good idea though
[10:19] <Eighth> drummer87: lots of problems, few gurus
[10:19] <cary> pfp, roger
[10:19] <drummer87> point taken
[10:19] <vHintswen> ps2
[10:19] <pfp> cary: and anything else you'd like to add, heh
[10:20] <microhaxo> guys
[10:20] <cdc> i am unable to configure my X Server
[10:20] <HawkeVIPER> xed: when you boot, add init 3 on the extensions line
[10:20] <r0d> did you look in your /dev folder
[10:20] <cdc> i am getting huge fonts and icons
[10:20] <cary> pfp, i'd love to add lots of stuff but i havnt a clue what those things are
[10:20] <vHintswen> ?
[10:20] <microhaxo> i have downloaded tux racer from the synaptic deal but where the hell did it install it?
[10:20] <HawkeVIPER> that should get you into the shell
[10:20] <cdc> i want it in 1024 * 768 resolution
[10:20] <jesse1> thoreaupitc: thanks for your help hopefully i can get those to install well im off cya
[10:20] <cary> so, same command then for hte new patch i assume
[10:20] <cdc> how do i change it
[10:20] <xed> HawkeVIPER: what do you mean "add" .. how do I go about doing this?
[10:20] <cdc> could some one please tell me ?
[10:20] <TokenBad> HawkeVIPER, uploads:x:1001:1001:uploads,uploads
[10:20] <jesse1> microhax: did u click apply?
[10:20] <TokenBad> so his id is 1001 right?
[10:20] <HawkeVIPER> mmph
[10:20] <vHintswen> ..?
[10:20] <HawkeVIPER> what was the exact error TokenBad
[10:21] <microhaxo> yea i did
[10:21] <pfp> cary: same command, yep
[10:21] <jesse1> mircohax: did u refresh the gnomepanel?
[10:21] <TokenBad> invalid mode string
[10:21] <r0d> vHintswen,  thats where your devices are stored. look for /dev/psaux
[10:21] <cary> done
[10:21] <vHintswen> i can't do anything!
[10:21] <vHintswen> lol
[10:21] <r0d> ?
[10:21] <pfp> linuxboy: thanks
[10:21] <HawkeVIPER> duh
[10:21] <HawkeVIPER> I'm a tard tonight
[10:21] <HawkeVIPER> my bad
[10:21] <vHintswen> i think i can login but after that nothing happens
[10:21] <cdc> i am unable to set my configuration to 1024*768 resolution
[10:21] <cdc> how do i change it
[10:21] <microhaxo> no
[10:21] <linuxboy> pfp: hope it helps
[10:21] <microhaxo> lol
[10:21] <HawkeVIPER> chown -R 1001:1001 dir/
[10:21] <r0d> vHintswen,  as long as you can use bash your ok
[10:21] <cdc>  i ve changed my xorg.conf too
[10:21] <vHintswen> it just shows a background or something and that's all
[10:22] <HawkeVIPER> weee... too much coffee and no sleep... just rocks
[10:22] <cdc> what else needs to be done
[10:22] <vHintswen> bash?
[10:22] <r0d> vHintswen,  thats the command prompt
[10:22] <cdc> HawkeVIPER, could you help me please?
[10:22] <HawkeVIPER> mmmph, it's not tonight anymore... it's 11:20 =/
[10:22] <vHintswen> well what if i can't cause i dunno how to use ubuntu
[10:22] <microhaxo> i still dont see tux racer?
[10:22] <som1> ok, i cant start ubuntu (no dev/console). now that i tried installing netbsd, i get the same problem.
[10:22] <HawkeVIPER> cdc: I'm not an xorg guru
[10:22] <som1> what could it be?
[10:22] <vHintswen> lol lemmi go try again...
[10:22] <microhaxo> where does synaptic install tux racer to?
[10:22] <Eighth> how can i rebuild a library without uninstalling it?
[10:22] <HawkeVIPER> microhaxo: the tuxracer name changed
[10:22] <pfp> cary: probably that therm patch is a good idea too, since the author recommends it
[10:22] <drummer87> cdc, system > prefs > screen resolution
[10:22] <r0d> vHintswen,  you said you cant see your mouse. but does linux start for you
[10:22] <TokenBad> i get operation not permitted
[10:22] <cary> pfp, all patches (save the fn key) are done
[10:23] <HawkeVIPER> make sure you sudo
[10:23] <microhaxo> what do you mean?
[10:23] <cdc> drummer87, that does not start
[10:23] <HawkeVIPER> sudo chown -R 1001:1001 dir/
[10:23] <cary> pfp, one step ahead (first time ever!)
[10:23] <TokenBad> I am in root terminal
[10:23] <HawkeVIPER> ugh
[10:23] <microhaxo> hawkviper
[10:23] <jesse1> microhaxo: it should be in the games section
[10:23] <microhaxo> not there
[10:23] <microhaxo> installed it fine
[10:23] <cdc> drummer87, i manually edited the xorg.conf and changed to 1024 but it still starts with 640 * 480
[10:23] <cdc> drummer87, what do i do
[10:23] <HawkeVIPER> iirc
[10:23] <jesse1> microhaxo: did u refresh the gnomepanel by in the terminal type killall gnomepanel
[10:23] <HawkeVIPER> it's called 4racer now
[10:24] <HawkeVIPER> or some such crap
[10:24] <microhaxo> i did
[10:24] <som1> ok, i cant start ubuntu (no dev/console). now that i tried installing netbsd, i get the same problem. what could it be? i updated kernel with synpatic
[10:24] <microhaxo> CTRL alt
[10:24] <microhaxo> backspace
[10:24] <microhaxo> that good enufF?
[10:24] <hondje> cdc: In your monitor section of xorg.conf, you need to futz with the horiz/vert (assuming you restarted X already)
[10:24] <drummer87> cdc, does that app come up? if you've changed xorg.conf there should be an option for the res you added in that app
[10:24] <TokenBad> guess will have to format and reinstall and maybe have it work right after that
[10:24] <TokenBad> cause its not working now
[10:24] <cdc> drummer87, that screen resolution application does not come up at all
[10:24] <vHintswen> r0d, yes it starts
[10:24] <HawkeVIPER> TokenBad: there is no reason for you to have to format and reinstall
[10:24] <vHintswen> i just loged in
[10:24] <HawkeVIPER> on an issue that small
[10:25] <HawkeVIPER> that is WAY overkill
[10:25] <hondje> sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange gives the ranges for the horiz/vert stuff, fwiw
[10:25] <TokenBad> well been trying to get it to work for days now
[10:25] <TokenBad> and I have had a couple people try to help
[10:25] <TokenBad> and none can figure it out
[10:25] <vHintswen> i see my mouse pointer but moving my mouse doesn't move the pointer
[10:25] <HawkeVIPER> TokenBad: ls -al dirname
[10:25] <hondje> TokenBad: what's up?
[10:25] <HawkeVIPER> paste the output here
[10:25] <TokenBad> all I could figure out is maybe bad mount settings on the drive that has that dir on it
[10:25] <r0d> vHintswen,  ok now do ' ls /dev | grep psaux'
[10:26] <r0d> first log in
[10:26] <vHintswen> where?
[10:26] <r0d> ;)
[10:26] <vHintswen> k
[10:26] <microhaxo> HawkeVIPER why cant i find TUX RACER?
[10:26] <microhaxo> lol
[10:26] <som1> microhaxo they said name changed
[10:26] <microhaxo> to what?
[10:26] <TokenBad> drwxr-xr-x   20 tokenbad tokenbad      32768 2005-06-18 01:13 uploads1
 it's called 4racer now
[10:26] <drummer87> cdc, hmm.. can't help u there, it should come up. that's where you change the res, maybe a problem with the app
[10:26] <microhaxo> bah
[10:27] <drummer87> cdc, try running gnome-display-properties from terminal and see if there are any errors pointing to why it's not coming up
[10:27] <r0d> vHintswen,  are you in the graphic's interface(gui)
[10:27] <vHintswen> ' ls /dev | grep psaux'i dunno where i'm typing that!
[10:27] <HawkeVIPER> som1: you missed the 'or some such shit'
[10:27] <microhaxo> i dont see that in the synaptic deal?
[10:27] <vHintswen> yeah GUI
[10:27] <som1> sudo apt-cache search racer
[10:27] <Eighth> how can i repair a broken library without uninstalling it?
[10:27] <thoreauputic> microhaxo: if the package is called tuxracer, do dpkg -L tuxracer | grep bin in a terminal to see where the binary is
[10:27] <r0d> ok hit 'alt ctrl backspace'
[10:27] <HawkeVIPER> my bad
[10:27] <HawkeVIPER> ppracer
[10:27] <cary> pfp, now what?
[10:27] <HawkeVIPER> =)
[10:27] <microhaxo> BS
[10:27] <vHintswen> and then type that?
[10:27] <microhaxo> user/games/tuxracer
[10:27] <microhaxo> its not there
[10:28] <microhaxo> im tellin you
[10:28] <r0d> log in then type it
[10:28] <HawkeVIPER> microhaxo: type `ppracer`
[10:28] <cdc> hondje, where do i specify the vertical and horizontal sync of the monitor in xorg.conf i dont see any default parameters passed for Horizontal and veritcal sync
[10:28] <TokenBad> HawkeVIPER, as far as I know that settings should be letting people upload
[10:28] <microhaxo> in what hawkeviper?
[10:28] <pfp> cary: i was reading some docs on how to make this easy (i know how to compile a kernel 'by hand', but theres a more automated method)
[10:28] <vHintswen> so i press ctrl+alt+backspace b4 i login?
[10:28] <HawkeVIPER> a shell...
[10:28] <thoreauputic> microhaxo: just type "tuxracer" in term and it should run
[10:28] <microhaxo> k
[10:28] <microhaxo> lo
[10:28] <r0d> yea
[10:28] <HawkeVIPER> thoreauputic: it's not called tuxracer anymore
[10:28] <vHintswen> k
[10:28] <hondje> cdc: /msg me and I'll walk you through it
[10:28] <r0d> it gives your the command prompt, bash
[10:28] <HawkeVIPER> it was renamed upstream a while back
[10:28] <vHintswen> how can i log out?
[10:28] <cary> pfp, ahha. sorry to rush. i appreciate your help very much
[10:28] <thoreauputic> HawkeVIPER: OK
[10:29] <r0d> no dont worry about that vHintswen  just log in again
[10:29] <r0d> it will ask you when u hit that button combo
[10:29] <r0d> ctrl alt backspace
[10:29] <cdc> hondje, one sec i have made some changes let me see whether it works now otherwise i ll be here again and i ll msg you
[10:29] <thoreauputic> HawkeVIPER: strange, i wonder why ?
[10:29] <vHintswen> o.o i'm already loged in with GUI so how to i logout?
[10:29] <hondje> cdc: okay
[10:29] <vHintswen> oh ok
[10:29] <cdc> thanks for your reply and offering help :-)
[10:29] <TokenBad> hondje, same problem as before..people can't upload to the dir on the mounted drive
[10:29] <hondje> TokenBad: oh yes, and it's not mounted ro and all that :-/
[10:30] <TokenBad> ??
[10:30] <woogie> ot: opera website down for anyone else?
[10:30] <drummer87> is it ok to remove ubuntu-desktop but then install it again? i want to completely remove gnome-panel then reinstall it
[10:30] <hondje> TokenBad: when you type 'mount' w/out arguements, it doesn't show the drive being mounted ro
[10:30] <drummer87> ubuntu-desktop must come down with it
[10:30] <TokenBad> oh
[10:31] <TokenBad> umm
[10:31] <hondje> Like, for example, 'tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,noexec)'
[10:31] <hondje> it says rw, not ro
[10:31] <microhaxo> kewl
[10:32] <cdc> hondje, got it :-)
[10:32] <vHintswen> o.o
[10:32] <cdc> now its perfect
[10:32] <TokenBad> ok let me test something
[10:32] <TokenBad> brb
[10:32] <TokenBad> hope
[10:32] <hondje> cdc: awesome :)
[10:32] <cdc> hondje, thanks a lot for suggesting that
[10:32] <vHintswen> i presed ctrl+alt+backspack sace, entered my username and it just went to next line
[10:32] <cdc> and now the screen resolution application comes up
[10:32] <hondje> cdc: No problem, if you find oddness w/ your refresh rates in the future, that's probably it right there
[10:33] <r0d> vHintswen, now password
[10:33] <cdc> it should be the other way round . The Screen resolution application should come up before the screen resolution is configured and not after everything is done in the hard way :-)
[10:33] <pfp> cary: ok.... you need to configure the kernel sources before compiling, do: cp /boot/config-`uname -r` .config
[10:33] <hondje> hehe
[10:33] <r0d> vHintswen,  type in the command i told you
[10:33] <pfp> cary: in the linux-2.6... directory
[10:33] <cary> oka
[10:33] <microhaxo> guys, i have dloaded Azureus
[10:33] <microhaxo> can you help me install it?
[10:34] <pfp> cary: then: make oldconfig
[10:34] <microhaxo> its a .bz2
[10:34] <hondje> microhaxo: you can't apt-get install azureus?
[10:34] <microhaxo> no
[10:34] <microhaxo> its .bz2?
[10:34] <microhaxo> oh
[10:34] <microhaxo> no i didnt add the crap for it
[10:34] <cary> i did that, got no return. is that okay?
[10:34] <microhaxo> its not in synaptic
[10:34] <thoreauputic> microhaxo: use the repos, don't just download stuff randomly
[10:34] <hondje> oh look, I don't have it either
[10:35] <thoreauputic> !repositories
[10:35] <ubotu> [repositories]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:35] <cary> cary@lnx:~/kernel/linux-source-2.6.11$ make oldconfig
[10:35] <cary> make: gcc: Command not found
[10:35] <cary> /home/cary/kernel/linux-source-2.6.11/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc: command not found
[10:35] <Chetic> How do I use my webcam? With TVTime or what? I have nooo idea what to do to use it here.. (no, I don't want to use gnomemeeting)
[10:35] <microhaxo> Repos
[10:35] <thoreauputic> microhaxo: read ubotu's URL
[10:35] <microhaxo> i dloaded it from Azureus's site
[10:35] <microhaxo> amd64 the only 64 version
[10:35] <cdc> could some one tell me how to set up apt resources
[10:35] <pfp> cary: ah... you need some tools
[10:35] <cdc> hondje, i had a look in sources.list and everything is commented out
[10:35] <hondje> cdc: I have mine posted online, if you want to see 'em
[10:36] <cdc> hondje, so which one should i uncomment
[10:36] <cary> pfp...weeeeeee! toosl
[10:36] <som1> ill ask again :p
[10:36] <cdc> hondje, yes give me the link :-)
[10:36] <som1> i cant start ubuntu (no dev/console). now that i tried installing netbsd, i get the same problem. what could it be? i updated kernel with synpatic
[10:36] <thoreauputic> cdc: just uncomment the lines that start with "deb"
[10:36] <microhaxo> here is the file  i have
[10:36] <microhaxo> Azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>_linux.AMD64.tar.bz2
[10:36] <microhaxo> how can i install?
[10:36] <thoreauputic> cdc: if you want multiverse, add the word multiverse to the universe lines
[10:36] <pfp> cary: sudo apt-get install build-essential kernel-package fakeroot
[10:36] <hondje> cdc: That'll give you all the ubuntu stuff, backports and other stuff isn't in mine
[10:36] <kmikz> can somebody help me with my sound problem in ubuntu?
[10:37] <hondje> at least in what I have online
[10:37] <thoreauputic> cdc: then reload/update
[10:37] <som1> microhaxo first decompress it, untar it. configure, makefile or just follow a readme
[10:37] <som1> ?:)
[10:37] <lsuactiafner> cary " apt-get build-essentials
[10:37] <microhaxo> k
[10:37] <cary> i assume "i wnat to continue"
[10:37] <gorthaug> hi i've a problem with my sound... it's a nforce2 integrated...
[10:37] <cary> its asking for some cd
[10:37] <som1> y!
[10:37] <cary> i guess my install cd?
[10:37] <som1> change sources.list
[10:38] <vHintswen> ' ls /dev | grep psaux' with the '?
[10:38] <kmikz> problems with sound here too
[10:38] <som1> cary vim /etc/apt/sources.list, comment the first uncommented line. thats ur cd
[10:38] <lsuactiafner> alsamixer and unmute your sound..
[10:38] <cary> i put the cd it. it seems to be working pfp
[10:38] <gorthaug> i've beenn installed ut2004 but i don't have sound in the game!! it use openal
[10:38] <kmikz> hey done that.. not muted
[10:38] <Chetic> How do I install my webcam as a video device?
[10:38] <pfp> good..
[10:38] <cary> back to prompt. ig uess thats done, pfp?
[10:39] <kmikz> also checked in the gnome volume control
[10:39] <thoreauputic> gorthaug: try sudo killall esd before starting it
[10:39] <pfp> cary: yep, now the previous command
[10:39] <cary> som1, that is basically the contents of the install disk?
[10:39] <lsuactiafner> Chetic : depends on your webcam, chances are its not supported by the kernel
[10:39] <som1> cary yeah, it tries to use the cd first
[10:39] <TokenBad> hondje, I have it set to ro now
[10:39] <Chetic> lsuactiafner, so I can't use the thing for anything but a microphone? that sucks..
[10:39] <r0d> vHintswen,  no quotes
[10:39] <gorthaug> thoreauputic it's works but...
[10:39] <TokenBad> and he gets read only error now when try to upload
[10:39] <hondje> TokenBad: that means read only, that might be why no one can write to it :)
[10:39] <vHintswen> k
[10:39] <xed_bleh> My ISP hates me.
[10:39] <cary>  CPU frequency translation statistics (CPU_FREQ_STAT) [Y/n/m/?]  (NEW)
[10:39] <microhaxo> err
[10:39] <TokenBad> well it was set to rw
[10:40] <cary> pfp, what is that?
[10:40] <Chetic> xed_bleh, mine hates me too
[10:40] <TokenBad> I just now changed it
[10:40] <cary> pfp, i assume i hit yes...?
[10:40] <microhaxo> im new to linux, i Unzipped the contents to a folder
[10:40] <microhaxo> there is a .sh file
[10:40] <microhaxo> i ran it
[10:40] <xed_bleh> Chetic: I don't think you understand.. they hate me with a passion.
[10:40] <microhaxo> but it runs and closes the terminal
[10:40] <lsuactiafner> Chetic : as i said lspci and lsusb and check the chipset on the cam, from there google brandname +linux on google and yah
[10:40] <microhaxo> i dunno what it did
[10:40] <thoreauputic> gorthaug: esd is a pain - a lot of apps expect to use oss and esd locks the sound system
[10:40] <microhaxo> now what do i do?
[10:40] <cary> pfp, ahh..its something about the thermal thin
[10:40] <pfp> ho hmm, anyone know where's the default config for ubuntu's 2.6.11 source?
[10:40] <hondje> xed_bleh: you can comcast too, eh?
[10:40] <cary> g
[10:40] <xed_bleh> Chetic: They like to mess with my head.. my tiny little head.. at 4:30 in the MORNING
[10:40] <Chetic> xed_bleh, yeah mine too.. I've destroyed alot for them..
[10:40] <hondje> lousy ISP X-(
[10:40] <som1> microhaxo is there a readme in there?
[10:40] <microhaxo> lol yea
[10:40] <lsuactiafner> cary : are you making a kernel?
[10:41] <cary> lsuactiafner, soon, i guess.
[10:41] <TokenBad> hondje, I set it to ro just now..it was set to rw
[10:41] <som1> microhaxo its much better to follow it :p
[10:41] <microhaxo> i did
[10:41] <microhaxo> and
[10:41] <cary> lsuactiafner, in the process more like. i have never done this before
[10:41] <microhaxo> noting happened
[10:41] <microhaxo> its a small readme
[10:41] <lsuactiafner> cary : if you are dont ask us how to do it.. go read a HOWTO on the internet
[10:41] <xed_bleh> hondje: I have Rogers. its like "Sweet, now that he's signed the contract, we don't gotta actually PROVIDE him the an ISP, he just needs .. some sort of blinking light modem thingy"
[10:41] <microhaxo> lol
[10:41] <hondje> TokenBad: oh, I'd assume rw is what you'd want, if they can't write to it
[10:41] <cameron> hey yall!
[10:41] <som1> try to..use it
[10:41] <TokenBad> well it was set to rw
[10:41] <som1> lol
[10:41] <hondje> xed_bleh: Sounds like the .ca version of comcast :)
[10:41] <TokenBad> and they still couldn't
[10:41] <cameron> i ment to not say "yall" but actually hey all
[10:41] <hondje> TokenBad: what are they using to upload?
[10:41] <lsuactiafner> making a kernel is a very very good idea but its not something i help ppl with, read up on it yourself
[10:41] <TokenBad> ftp clients
[10:41] <TokenBad> windows based client
[10:42] <TokenBad> like cuteftp, bpftp
[10:42] <TokenBad> shit like that
[10:42] <hondje> TokenBad: perhaps it's application setting, then
[10:42] <lsuactiafner> TokenBad : whats this?
[10:42] <TokenBad> no its on my end
[10:42] <hondje> can you scp to the mount?
[10:42] <xed_bleh> hondje: comcast counds like a us version of rogers...
[10:42] <xed_bleh> Anywho, cable sucks. =(
[10:42] <cameron> hey guys, what is the name of that resource monitor bar thing i see on the right side of everonyes desktop, can i get that for ubuntu?
[10:42] <cary> pfp, i sent you the whole thing. i assume its just asking about proccesor stuff. like asking if iw ant to do that
[10:42] <pfp> cary: you can just go w/ the defaults, ie. press enter for everything
[10:42] <microhaxo> what the hell
[10:42] <microhaxo> "Azureus TERMINATED."
 I'm sort of screwed now
[10:44] <Eighth> how can i repair a broken library without uninstalling it?
[10:44] <vHintswen> nothing happened
[10:44] <xed_bleh> I have to re-format, re-install windows, ubuntu, reconfigure all this shit.. and possibly cry a bit..
[10:44] <TokenBad> says can't find the package pure-ftp or pureftp
[10:44] <lsuactiafner> cameron : look into lm-sensors
[10:44] <rob^> xed_bleh, theres no need to reinstall windows :P
[10:44] <cameron> lsuactiafner: google comes up with nothing for gkgremlin, and nothing for gtkgremlin
[10:44] <lsuactiafner> Eighth : just reinstall over the old one and hope for the best
[10:44] <cameron> lsuactiafner: oh ok i will
[10:45] <xed_bleh> rob^: Yes, there is. I have to make use of the TV Tuner card..
[10:45] <vHintswen> r0d, nothing happened
[10:45] <lsuactiafner> yeh forgot how to spell it
[10:45] <lsuactiafner> also checkin for it now lol
[10:45] <rob^> xed_bleh, no linux driver?
[10:45] <lsuactiafner> ive bene compilin a kernel on my p166 for the last 16hrs.. not a small kernel
[10:45] <gorthaug> thoreauputic: but I want to listen to mp3 while game
[10:45] <xed_bleh> rob^: I doubt it.. even if there was, I don't know if any software .. actually being able to let me watch TV in Ubuntu.
[10:46] <TokenBad> stupid program..if can't uninstall it...will have to reinstall
[10:46] <xed_bleh> of any software...*
[10:46] <vHintswen> o.o is r0d gone?
[10:46] <lsuactiafner> goto freshmeat.net check there
[10:46] <a-l-e> hello, i'm re-trying to start on my ubuntu on a firewire disk... now, i have to manipulate some linuxrc... but i'm not that confident with it... is there anybody able to able me or can anybody give me a good link to follow?
[10:46] <lsuactiafner> for programs to look @ tv
[10:46] <pfp> cary: ok, you should be ready to compile: make-kpkg kernel_image
[10:46] <r0d> vHintswen,  are you sure your mouse is plugged in? mice shouldnt be a problem
[10:46] <thoreauputic> gorthaug: well, if you feel adventurous, check the "fix sound" howto listed on http://ubuntuguide.org
[10:46] <xed_bleh> Ubuntu: WHY do you hate me!?
[10:46] <learn25> hi all ;-)
[10:46] <cary> pfp, from what dir
[10:47] <rob^> xed_bleh, what type of card is it?
[10:47] <vHintswen> it is... it worked when i had windows on there
[10:47] <vHintswen> i'll check just in case...
[10:47] <pfp> cary: in the same linux-2.6.xx dir
[10:47] <r0d> vHintswen,  you did 'ls /dev | grep psaux'
[10:47] <xed_bleh> rob^: I'm about to put this old ATI Rage 128 Pro in there..
[10:47] <pfp> cary: compiling will take quite a while then
[10:47] <xed_bleh> Its going to be sweet. My pentium II will be the ULTIMATE ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM!
[10:47] <cary> pfp, doing it now presumably
[10:47] <TokenBad> hondje, says can't find that package
[10:47] <learn25> how to install a plugin that will crossfade songs in xmms?
[10:47] <TokenBad> but know its installed
[10:47] <hondje> TokenBad: what package?
[10:47] <xed_bleh> I swear to you..  How to install a plugin that will crossfade songs in xmms?
[10:48] <TokenBad> hondje apt-get remove --purge <foo>
[10:49] <lsuactiafner> pfp : we both know he will screw his boot partition and his backup kernel up..guiding someone on irc is a bad idea, make em read a HOWTO
[10:49] <cary> pfp, oh its printing. its printing like the wind blows
[10:49] <hondje> TokenBad: <foo> is whatever you're trying to remove
[10:49] <TokenBad> I know
[10:49] <TokenBad> got that part
[10:49] <vHintswen> o.o it's weird
[10:49] <hondje> oh, 10-4
[10:49] <TokenBad> and when put pure-ftp in
[10:49] <vHintswen> i thought it ps2
[10:49] <HawkeVIPER> try pure-ftpd
[10:49] <vHintswen> it's a 9 pin(female) thing
[10:49] <rob^> xed_bleh, do a search on google for "ubuntu ATI Rage 128 Pro" on how to install the drivers for your tv card, and check out howto: http://www.freeos.com/articles/3007/
[10:49] <vHintswen> geeze it's strange
[10:50] <lsuactiafner> learn25 : goto freshmeat.net and type xmms and look @ related software.. or apt-cache search cross and search xmms
[10:50] <HawkeVIPER> vHintswen: a serial connector
[10:50] <TokenBad> now I feel stupid
[10:50] <vHintswen> yeah that's it lol
[10:50] <TokenBad> heheh
[10:50] <vHintswen> ' ls /dev | grep psaux'
[10:50] <pfp> lsuactiafner: hmm, you could be right, however, kernel .debs should install cleanly to grub afaik
[10:50] <HawkeVIPER> I went into a store and asked for a null modem cable
[10:50] <vHintswen> what's stranger is that it doesn't ask for my password
[10:50] <rob^> xed_bleh, there is two different tv viewer programs for linux, Kwintv and xawtv
[10:50] <HawkeVIPER> and they just looked at me like I was the devil spawn or something
[10:50] <xed_bleh> rob^: right now, I need to actually get ubuntu WORKING
[10:50] <HawkeVIPER> vHintswen: have you already entered it in the last 5 mins?
[10:50] <vHintswen> it asks for username and after i enter that it don't ask for password
[10:50] <vHintswen> no
[10:51] <rob^> xed_bleh, whats the problem your having
[10:51] <HawkeVIPER> oh
[10:51] <kmikz> ok.... trying to make the sound to work on ubuntu for 2 days now...... and no, the sound is not muted in alsamixer, nor is it muted anywhere else... tried to kill esd, but to no avail.........followed the instructions in http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly but no luck there either... i googled and i wikied and it doesnt work... HELP
[10:51] <vHintswen> would it make a difference?
[10:51] <r0d> vHintswen,  well linux see's your mouse
[10:51] <vHintswen> so...
[10:51] <r0d> it might be a X problem
[10:51] <lsuactiafner> kmikz : this is where you hit the ppl making your kernel over the head..
[10:51] <vHintswen> meaning?
[10:52] <lsuactiafner> kmikz : prolly you kernel is loading the wrong module.. so lspci check what sound card you got and the google that +linux
[10:52] <r0d> whats the command that lets your configure your X configurations?
[10:52] <lsuactiafner> rmmod the modules you dont need, and modprobe the correct sound module
[10:52] <pfp> lsuactiafner: i figured he wouldn't understand everything from a howto, so this would be way to get started
[10:52] <r0d> vHintswen,  i forget the command, its been awhile since i had to
[10:52] <Eighth> when i try to install libkrb53, dpkg says i have unmet dependencies.  when i use apt-get -f install, it wants to remove 108 packages... someone wanna walk me thru reinstalling this lib, plz?
[10:53] <vHintswen> maybe installing linux was a bad idea :(
[10:53] <Eighth> vHintswen: i doubt it very much
[10:53] <r0d> hld a sec vHintswen . you need to research more too.
[10:53] <kmikz> lsuactiafner, thx i'll try that too... it's a SIS chip on my mobo
[10:53] <lsuactiafner> pfp : ive told many ppl how to make kernels.. doesnt work on irc..
[10:53] <thoreauputic> r0d: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:54] <r0d>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:54] <lsuactiafner> pfp : beter to make em read a howto, screw it up 3 times and then somehow they get it right
[10:54] <TokenBad> ok who has install proftpd?
[10:54] <pfp> lsuactiafner: heh, k
[10:54] <r0d> thx thoreauputic . vHintswen  use that command
[10:54] <hondje> I work with a guy, has a masters in some CS stuff, can't roll his own kernel for the life of him
[10:54] <lsuactiafner> pfp : just make sure he has got a backup kernel and that his boot sector is updated ect
[10:54] <HawkeVIPER> most university fucks are like that
[10:55] <HawkeVIPER> all the technical experience of a dead snail
[10:55] <lsuactiafner> hondje : my p166 boxen is so old the new kernels dont work on it anymore
[10:55] <vHintswen> ?
[10:55] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: Hey now, I'm a university fuck :)
[10:55] <vHintswen> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[10:55] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: present company excepted
[10:55] <HawkeVIPER> =P
[10:55] <TokenBad> lsuactiafner, you installed proftpd?
[10:55] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: Though not computer university fuck ;-)
[10:55] <r0d> *bangs head on wall*
[10:55] <HawkeVIPER> well there ya go
[10:55] <r0d>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:55] <lsuactiafner> hondje : so my default .config doesnt work, but the vmlinuz one from slackware worked.. so somewhere my .config needs one setting changed, like access to pci via bios not direct once caused shit..
[10:55] <xed_bleh> DEAR GOD!
[10:55] <lsuactiafner> so i'm compiling a huge kernel now and taking out what aint needed 1 by 1
[10:55] <hondje> lsuactiafner: ouch, at least you had the slack .config to use
[10:56] <lsuactiafner> been compiling 16hrs
[10:56] <xed_bleh> I have a 12 hour shift today and I am seeing the sun come up ...  Check your configuration.
[10:58] <TokenBad> wtf!!
[10:58] <hondje> cdc: I can't use dcc
[10:58] <hondje> cdc: just /msg hondje <stuff>
[10:58] <HawkeVIPER> and they develop these weird fantasies that they can code in C
[10:58] <HawkeVIPER> and it's all back asswards
[10:58] <hondje> yeah
[10:58] <lsuactiafner> TokenBad : edit /etc/proftpd.conf the standalone inetd lines
[10:58] <r0d> maybe someone here w/ more experience w/ that problem can help you in here vHintswen
[10:58] <HawkeVIPER> and they wonder why it seg fault
[10:58] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: I get them back, I write shit in fortran :D
[10:58] <Eighth> lsuactiafner: when i do, apt reports unmet dependencies.. when i use -f install, it wants to remove 108 packages
[10:58] <cdc> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[10:58] <cdc> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:58] <hondje> cdc: ack, query :)
[10:58] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: my favorite is to write bash script in <50 lines to do what their 300 line C prog did
[10:59] <vHintswen> don'
[10:59] <vHintswen> t work
[10:59] <thoreauputic> cdc: and did you do what it said?
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> Eighth : apt might be tryingto install a new version of the package.. and the new version aint compatable hehehehe
[10:59] <xed_bleh> SO.. installing Ubuntu on this pentium II maybe wasn't the greatest idea, I guess =(
[10:59] <vHintswen> no commands r working
[10:59] <kmikz> well it seems i got it working
[10:59] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: syn, reply =P
[10:59] <lsuactiafner> Eighth : you be teh screwed, find the old version on your cd..
[10:59] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: Now I can work away from them, it's amusing to watch stuff like that ;-)
[10:59] <HawkeVIPER> wee back asswards r0x0rs
[10:59] <cdc> thoreauputic, yes uncommented out everything
[10:59] <kmikz> i had to mute the capture monitor
[10:59] <rob^> xed_bleh, if you want to ask a question, just ask
[10:59] <microhaxo> guys, i have a WINEcvs.sh file, whenever i try to run it it says command not found?
[10:59] <HawkeVIPER> mmm... I get to deal with customers
[10:59] <HawkeVIPER> who think they know it all too
[10:59] <Eighth> lsuactiafner: is there some way i can tell apt to forget about removing those packages?
[10:59] <vHintswen> after i press ctrl+alt+backspacve is says Ubuntu username:
[11:00] <hondje> Now I just make pretty pictures w/ gnuplot and the like
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> xed_bleh : ubuntu is for desktops.. slackware is for p2 servers.. with no screen card monitor ect
[11:00] <vHintswen> i enter my username and press enter
[11:00] <thoreauputic> cdc: no - did you run " sudo apt-get update" ?
[11:00] <vHintswen> shuldn't is say ubuntu password: now?
[11:00] <HawkeVIPER> hondje: I'm a lvl III sysadmin for a webhost
[11:00] <vHintswen> it*
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> Eighth : wish i knew, apt is very annoyin sometimes
[11:00] <r0d> vHintswen,  yea
[11:00] <vHintswen> cause it doesn't
[11:00] <cdc> thoreauputic, yes
[11:00] <Eighth> agreed
[11:00] <cdc> i did run it
[11:00] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: technically I'm some sort of data analyst
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> ok later.
[11:00] <r0d> run 'passwd'
[11:00] <TokenBad> lsuactiafner, edit it to what?
[11:00] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: but like most jobs, that's total BS :)
[11:00] <HawkeVIPER> indeed
[11:00] <lsuactiafner> ServerType                      standalone
[11:00] <HawkeVIPER> ever asked the pimps if they know what 'analyst' means?
[11:01] <lsuactiafner> #ServerType                     inetd
[11:01] <lsuactiafner> the file /etc/proftpd.conf
[11:01] <hondje> customer gives data, and if it's up my alley I whip out smoe matlab/fortran/C++/gnuplot goodness and make a powerpoint
[11:01] <TokenBad> I just see servertype inetd
[11:01] <vHintswen> nothing
[11:01] <lsuactiafner> analyst is the guy who gets laid just for making leet money
[11:01] <vHintswen> >:(
[11:01] <hondje> bling ;-)
[11:01] <christos> hello. i see in syaptic [ackage manager that i have dvd+rw-tools installed. where are those tools?
[11:01] <hondje> Hopefully in a couple months I'll be teaching a math class instead
[11:01] <HawkeVIPER> mmm... I need to inject my salary somewhat
[11:01] <HawkeVIPER> need to move inhouse somewhere
[11:01] <lsuactiafner> TokenBad : so # the ServerType inetd and add the line ServerType standalone
[11:01] <HawkeVIPER> back to england me thinks
[11:02] <bob2> christos: 'dpkg -L dvd+rw-tools' will print out the files the package contains
[11:02] <TokenBad> oh
[11:02] <pfp> cary: i have to go (i'm moving), but i'll be around later today (or whatever the timezone)
[11:02] <thoreauputic> xed_bleh: FWIW, I have ubuntu running happily on a pentium 200mmx 64MB RAM (right next to me)
[11:02] <microhaxo> aww shit
[11:02] <cary> pfp
[11:02] <vHintswen> omg i don't know why i bothered.
[11:02] <cary> what woudl be my next step be?
[11:02] <vHintswen> always stuffs up
[11:02] <HawkeVIPER> thoreauputic: I've got a FreeBSD 486 webserver
[11:02] <lsuactiafner> i have a p166 42mb ram with the original f00f bug!!
[11:02] <HawkeVIPER> =P
[11:02] <lsuactiafner> it rocks
[11:02] <microhaxo> whats root password for dx9wine cvs?
[11:02] <cary> what woudl be my next step be?, pfp
[11:02] <microhaxo> isnt it cvs?
[11:02] <lsuactiafner> goonna mod the boxen to look really cool one day
[11:03] <hondje> soekris!
[11:03] <cary> pfp or is there some place that can show me where to go from here?
[11:03] <hondje> those things are so cool
[11:03] <TokenBad> whats command to try and restart it?
[11:03] <thoreauputic> HawkeVIPER: nice :)
[11:03] <vHintswen> r0d, nothing happens
[11:03] <lsuactiafner> going to show my kids in 20 yrs and tell em to fsck off and leave my leet pc alone
[11:03] <HawkeVIPER> thoreauputic: it's slung into a random rack at the DC
[11:03] <hondje> my bud just swapped out the hdd with a big ol' CF drive, neatest little thing running OBSD
[11:03] <vHintswen> nothing happens no matter what i type
[11:03] <HawkeVIPER> more bandwidth than it could ever handle
[11:03] <HawkeVIPER> it was just to prove something to the idiot customers who complain that they don't have enough resources
[11:03] <xed_bleh> I need to create an AI that can answer all questions.
[11:03] <cary> pfp, and thank you so much.
[11:04] <hondje> HawkeVIPER: hehe
[11:04] <lsuactiafner> cary : if it doesnt reboot come hit pfp over the head
[11:04] <TokenBad> lsuactiafner, whats command to try and restart proftpd now that edited?
[11:04] <christos> to burn dvd's should i install gnome baker or is there anything better?
[11:04] <lsuactiafner> run proftpd
[11:04] <Eighth> stupid broken stuff... now i have to reboot :/
[11:04] <bob2> christos: nautilus does it fine
[11:04] <HawkeVIPER> xcdroast, k3b...
[11:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone ever setup ubuntu on a p233?
[11:04] <microhaxo> Guys, im using a .sh to download DIRECTX9WINE, it is asking for the root password to dload the source, do yu guys know waht that password is?!
[11:05] <lsuactiafner> ChurcH_of_FoamY : i showed my p166 the cd and it started to cry.
[11:05] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: I have it running on a p200
[11:05] <HawkeVIPER> thoreauputic xed_bleh: FWIW, I have ubuntu running happily on a pentium 200mmx 64MB RAM (right next to me)
[11:05] <HawkeVIPER> ah
[11:05] <cary> lsuactiafner, hah. awesome. so at the end of this compiling it shoudl reboot?
[11:05] <bob2> microhaxo: you're running it wrong
[11:05] <HawkeVIPER> too late
[11:05] <HawkeVIPER> lol
[11:05] <christos> bob2: what about iso's?
[11:05] <bob2> microhaxo: run it under sudo
[11:05] <microhaxo> k
[11:05] <bob2> christos: I don't know what you mean
[11:05] <lsuactiafner> cary : it shoudl but it wont. you got to edit grub or lilo now, ask pfp
[11:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm setting it up now on a compaq 233 with 64mb pc 100
[11:05] <cary> bob2, hey. just saying hi. how areyou
[11:05] <bob2> christos: yo ucan right click on a cd image and select "write" to have nautilus write to a disk
[11:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and it's actually working
[11:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_o
[11:05] <HawkeVIPER> mmm
[11:05] <bob2> cary: good, thanks, your self?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> it's running fluxbox, not gnome, of course :)
[11:05] <christos> bob2: ok thanks!
[11:05] <hondje> nautilus cd burning is all hondje needs
[11:05] <vHintswen> ...
[11:05] <HawkeVIPER> I should go reclaim ophelia
[11:05] <xed_bleh> bob2's back?
[11:05] <xed_bleh> hoooraaaaa
[11:06] <hondje> it's the optimum method
[11:06] <HawkeVIPER> and install something on her
[11:06] <cary> lsuactiafner, pfp is going bye bye for now. where can i go or who can i ask what the next step as after compiling
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> would fluxbox be easyer on the onboard vid card?
[11:06] <vHintswen> ........................................................................................
[11:06] <microhaxo> bob2 thanks
[11:06] <xed_bleh> I think its time for me to do a clean format.
[11:06] <HawkeVIPER> ChurcH_of_FoamY: yes
[11:06] <cary> bob2, pretty well. its 4 am so im tired but hey..im compiling my first kernel!
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[11:06] <bob2> cary: hehehe
[11:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i have never installed it is it easy?
[11:06] <HawkeVIPER> in fact
[11:06] <thoreauputic> ChurcH_of_FoamY: or icewm, blackbox.. whatever
[11:06] <lsuactiafner> cary : read something. i'm going also.. google kernel compile HOWTO
[11:06] <microhaxo> dammit
[11:06] <HawkeVIPER> I'm going to go get ophelia before work
[11:06] <HawkeVIPER> gimme something to do
[11:06] <HawkeVIPER> bbiab
[11:06] <lsuactiafner> and i'm out..
[11:06] <microhaxo> why the hell does this always happen
[11:06] <cary> bob2, or rather pfp has been telling me what to do
[11:06] <cary> lsuactiafner, thanks man.
[11:07] <vHintswen> o.o
[11:07] <lsuactiafner> someone help the poor guy..
[11:07] <cary> lsuactiafner, haha. i am cary the pitiful, apparently.
[11:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> WOW never herd a cd-rom make that noise before :/
[11:07] <lsuactiafner> cary : ask in a slackware channel. ubuntu ppl dont do things like kernels..
[11:07] <bob2> lsuactiafner: wtf
[11:07] <bob2> lsuactiafner: please don't spread such silly lies like that, thanks
[11:07] <cary> lsuactiafner, what do you mean?
[11:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok that was new gonna have to make a warning sighn for my wall
[11:08] <thoreauputic> lsuactiafner: bad advice - there's a Debian way for kernels
[11:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> beware of flying cd's O_o
[11:08] <r0d> lsuactiafner,  I custimized my kernel from source
[11:08] <hondje> make-kpkg is too hard for hondje :(  I just use distro defaults
[11:08] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : ppl in ubuntu will advise you to use apt-get for kernels.. they dont know how to compile kenrels.. most of em
[11:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it just shot my last copy of ubuntu acrost the room
[11:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> :(
[11:09] <bob2> lsuactiafner: sure, because the ubuntu kernel works for nearly everyone out of the box
[11:09] <r0d> lsuactiafner,  you can apt-get your sources
[11:09] <hondje> lsuactiafner: for the most part, they don't need to
[11:09] <lsuactiafner> so ppl in this channel dont know how to help cary .. ask in a server distro channel
[11:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> stupid front loading cd rom
[11:09] <concept10> whos trying to compile a kernel
[11:09] <bob2> lsuactiafner: please stop with the lame trolling
[11:09] <vHintswen> omg...
[11:09] <vHintswen> /me wants windows back
[11:09] <bob2> ubuntu is a "server distro"
[11:09] <cary> concept10, i am. its compiling now. im looking up what to do next
[11:09] <concept10> what have you done?
[11:09] <TokenBad> I give up...try to ftp in and it says some error about pure-ftp
[11:09] <TokenBad> like its still loading
[11:09] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : didnt work for me.. the ppl for whom it works come here and tell you it worked, but for the 10% of ppl who install, cant boot, doesnt complain and go back to windows.. you dont even know about em
[11:09] <rob^> vHintswen, well why are you hanging around here then?
[11:10] <vHintswen> lol well maybe i could fix it
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : ubuntu aint a server and you know that
[11:10] <bob2> lsuactiafner: er, so, they need to file bugs
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> freebsd is a server.
[11:10] <bob2> lsuactiafner: oh, stop it, don't be a moron
[11:10] <cary> concept10, i apt-get'ed 2.6.11 (.8 i think) then applied some powerbook patches, now its compiling
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : but they dont.. you know that
[11:10] <bob2> lots of people run servers on ubuntu, including me
[11:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[11:10] <Eighth> ok... so apache is working now, but i still have the problem of 'unresolved dependencies' from when i tried to install libkrb53... how do i tell apt-get to forget that ever happened?
[11:10] <Markuman> i've problems to install paint shop pro with wine...
[11:10] <thoreauputic> lsuactiafner: that would be why ubuntu.com runs on ubuntu...
[11:10] <r0d> lsuactiafner,  I came from gentoo, and I like doing it.  its not hard lsuactiafner .....
[11:10] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[11:10] <r0d> ouch
[11:11] <hondje> bob2: what are you serving w/ ubuntu? Production env?
[11:11] <xed> AGGGHG!!!
[11:11] <xed> qt_parted is uselss!!!!
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> ah cmon
[11:11] <cary> hahah
[11:11] <xed> useless you hear me! USELESS!!!!
[11:11] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> no it's not it's actually a very good prog
[11:11] <lsuactiafner> bob2 : ubuntu is a desktop, ive been told that many times.
[11:11] <bob2> hondje: yes
[11:11] <vHintswen> any idea why commands are not working?
[11:11] <bob2> lsuactiafner: I really don't care
[11:11] <vHintswen> or shuld i just go downstairs
[11:11] <bob2> lsuactiafner: your opinions are your own, but spreading fud is silly
[11:11] <thoreauputic>  lsuactiafner: that would be why ubuntu.com runs on ubuntu..
[11:11] <concept10> lsuactiafner, linux is linux remember that
[11:11] <xed> You can't resize the friggin partition WITH THE OS on it.. which basically has all of the space.
[11:11] <r0d> lsuactiafner,  u dont know what your talking about
[11:12] <cary> concept10, how long does it generally take to compile a kernel?
[11:12] <cary> concept10, (im in the drivers)
[11:12] <vHintswen> anyone got any ideas??
[11:13] <thoreauputic> cary: depends on your machine
[11:13] <cdc> how to play mp3s in ubuntu
[11:13] <cdc> i am unable to play any mp3s in ubuntu
[11:13] <concept10> cary, I dont know .  it depends on how much you are compiling and your machine speed
[11:13] <cary> thoreauputic, minutes or hours?
[11:13] <bob2> cdc: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:13] <bob2> cdc: this is in the faq, btw
[11:13] <cdc> bob2, that means ppl using ubuntu cant play mp3s
[11:13] <cdc> :-o
[11:13] <lsuactiafner> cary : amd64 3200 minutes.. p166 18hrs if its a huge big kernel..
[11:13] <bob2> cdc: er, no, it doesn't
[11:14] <cary> hey wow. i am even able to play mp3s!
[11:14] <cary> not tha tmy audio works for crap
[11:14] <cary> okay, so i should go to bed then, and not wait for this to finish compiling?
[11:14] <r0d> lol
[11:14] <concept10> cary, why are you compiling a kernel (just curious)
[11:14] <lsuactiafner> cary : what machine you got?
[11:14] <r0d> no man not that long cary
[11:14] <cdc> cary, u r able to play mp3s ?
[11:14] <cdc> cary, how is it whats to be done?
[11:15] <vHintswen> has everyone got me on ignore or something?!?
[11:15] <bob2> cdc: read that wiki page, it expains how to set it up
[11:15] <r0d> cary needs to patch his kernel
[11:15] <bob2> vHintswen: if you want help, you need to ask clear, informed questions
[11:15] <concept10> vHintswen, whats your question
[11:15] <vHintswen> Does anyone here know who my mouse isn't working or why no commands work?
[11:15] <vHintswen> why*
[11:15] <cary> concept10, i am compiling a kernel so i can apply patches to it that will make my powerbook work better
[11:15] <bob2> define "no commands work"
[11:15] <lsuactiafner> cant wait for openmosix patch for the 2.6 series
[11:16] <vHintswen> when i type in a command nothing happens
[11:16] <concept10> cary, sounds great  I did a one the other day
[11:16] <cary> concept10, there are cpu and audio patches, as well as one fo rthe temp guage.  my audio is crap right now.
[11:16] <bob2> vHintswen: where? for example?
[11:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> maybey it takes a min?
[11:16] <cary> r0d, cool.
[11:16] <pfp> gagz
[11:17] <cary> cdc, follow the link bob2 sent you. its fairly straight forward given the basics of linux (which i really dont knwo)
[11:17] <vHintswen> i don't know what it's called, when you press ctrl+alt+backspace, there's where commands don't work
[11:17] <cary> you'll need to go to
[11:17] <vHintswen> and mouse doesn't work anywhere
[11:17] <r0d> cary,  what command did you use 'make && make module_install'?
[11:17] <thoreauputic> bob2: Sunday has arrived a day early, methinks ;)
[11:17] <bob2> vHintswen: "don't work"?  you can't see anything printed when you type?
[11:17] <bob2> thoreauputic: hah
[11:17] <cary> cdc, youll need to go to system>admin>synaptic and enable all your universe and multiverse stuffs. just read that site
[11:17] <Eighth> ok... so apache is working now, but i still have the problem of 'unresolved dependencies' from when i tried to install libkrb53... how do i tell apt-get to forget that ever happened?
[11:18] <vHintswen> after i type in a command it just goes to the next line, it doesn'tgive me any message in return to say it has done anything
[11:18] <microhaxo> Bob2, can you help me, directx9wine wont compile, i get errors  C compiler cannot create executables
[11:18] <thoreauputic> vHintswen: silence is golden :)
[11:18] <cary> lord i dont even know now. i pasted what pfp sent me and thats off the channel now and lord knows its gone from terminal
[11:18] <vHintswen> not always
[11:18] <r0d> hehe
[11:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how do compaqs run ubuntu? pritty well?
[11:18] <r0d> im sur he told you that.
[11:18] <pfp> cary: heh, still here, though i'm really out in 10min.  ...
[11:18] <bob2> vHintswen: so, what command?
[11:18] <thoreauputic> vHintswen: example of such a command?
[11:18] <bob2> vHintswen: most commands don't print anything at all
[11:18] <cary> pfp..what the heck did i do?
[11:19] <bob2> vHintswen: (unless something went wrong)
[11:19] <vHintswen> 'ls /dev | grep psaux'
[11:19] <bob2> microhaxo: install the build-essential package
[11:19] <r0d> pfp,  did you tell cary to use 'make && make module_install'?
[11:19] <pfp> cary: after it's compiled, you need to 1) install the kernel package 2) make sure your boot loader is ok. i actually forgot that you're on a Mac; that makes any advice on LILO or GRUB useless to you
[11:19] <cary> pfp, and lsuactiafner was saying i have more junks to do after this
[11:19] <bob2> vHintswen: well, of course, that means there's no file called psaux in /dev
[11:19] <microhaxo> bob2
[11:19] <pfp> r0d: no
[11:19] <vHintswen> 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[11:19] <microhaxo> i did
[11:19] <microhaxo> build-essential is already the newest version.
[11:19] <microhaxo> still doesnt work?
[11:19] <bob2> microhaxo: talk to the wine people
[11:19] <microhaxo> i am
[11:19] <microhaxo> lol
[11:19] <bob2> microhaxo: try 'rm config.cache'
[11:20] <zerokills> how do i install a .rpm file?
[11:20] <thoreauputic> vHintswen: do you have xserver-xorg installed/
[11:20] <r0d> pfp,  what command, just 'make' he asked if it would take along time to compile
[11:20] <lsuactiafner> microhaxo : default ubuntu installs dont like to compile.. so you will need to install more libs and dependancies
[11:20] <bob2> zerokills: what is it?
[11:20] <vHintswen> what's a command that will print something so i can check if it's working?
[11:20] <bob2> lsuactiafner: which he/she ha installed now
[11:20] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> how is ubuntu with isa cards?
[11:20] <bob2> vHintswen: ls /etc
[11:20] <zerokills> bob2: its a program
[11:20] <thoreauputic> vHintswen: try ls -al
[11:20] <bob2> zerokills: indeed.  which program?
[11:20] <pfp> r0d: he's using make-kpgk kernel_image, and running as a normal user, so he can't have messed up anything yet
[11:20] <r0d> ok
[11:20] <zerokills> bob2" limewire
[11:21] <bob2> zerokills: it's probably easier to just get the tarball of their site
[11:21] <concept10> lsuactiafner, you should stop smoking
[11:21] <cary> pfp, good to know its apparently not possible for me to have janekd this up yet
[11:21] <pfp> r0d: also, because it's a macintosh, grub or lilo won't be present
[11:21] <cary> good lord there are so many drives
[11:21] <cary> drivers*
[11:21] <newuser> Hey, excuse me
[11:21] <r0d> pfp,  apples dont use grub? interesting!
[11:21] <newuser> Does anyone watch anime?
[11:21] <peppo> is there an easy way to show _BUILD_ dependencies for a piece of software? I'm going to build Ardour at an internetless machine, and beside scons it seems to need libstdc++5-dev, but what more?
[11:21] <newuser> Sorry for off the topic
[11:22] <hondje> newuser: my wife does
[11:22] <zerokills> bob2: where do i get the tarball?
[11:22] <hondje> wierdo asians
[11:22] <bob2> peppo: apt-cache showsrc ardour
[11:22] <newuser> Well, you've seen Lain correct?
[11:22] <bob2> hondje: er?
[11:22] <vHintswen> both 'ls /etc' and 'ls -al' print nothing
[11:22] <newuser> Lain Serial Experiments
[11:22] <hondje> bob2: my wife, she's a wierdo asian
[11:22] <pfp> cary: yep, you need sudo / root to break anything ,)
[11:22] <xed> So.. I'm going to go ahead.. and just wait for this download of the new ubuntu to finish, and try that out.
[11:22] <lsuactiafner> argh i'm going to get kicked again if i defend myself so stop bashing me. ive always been told HERE ubuntu is a desktop, everytime i complained build-essentials should be a default package, any server should have development tools and a complte network package series..
[11:22] <hondje> newuser: Yes, she has that one
[11:22] <bob2> newuser: this doesn't seem to have anything to do with ubuntu
[11:22] <xed> I've already partitioned out the resierf.. or whatever thats called, and made the linux swap ready for the CD
[11:22] <pfp> r0d: afaik grub is pc-only
[11:22] <thoreauputic> vHintswen: OK in that case your install is b0rked
[11:22] <bob2> lsuactiafner: no, please stop it
[11:22] <lsuactiafner> but ubuntu is a very very good desktop
[11:23] <lsuactiafner> its outstanding on the desktop
[11:23] <bob2> lsuactiafner: if clueless people have told you things, it doesn't make it true
[11:23] <newuser> Well in Lain, correct the girl seems to have her monitor as the way she sees things.
[11:23] <xed> I'm going to sleep and hoping I don't remember this all too well in the morning.
[11:23] <xed> Good day to you sirs.
[11:23] <vHintswen> so what can i do?
[11:23] <newuser> Like her Dekstop for I say..
[11:23] <newuser> Is that possible with Ubuntu
[11:23] <newuser> Since it is, an..
[11:23] <cary> pfp...woohoo. im wondering if i even have a "little" enoguh knowledge to be dangerous yet.
[11:23] <newuser> Open source correct?
[11:23] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there spider solitare for ubuntu?
[11:23] <hondje> newuser: I don't follow, man :)
[11:23] <newuser> No lady actually,
[11:23] <hondje> 'like her desktop for I say' lost me
[11:23] <newuser> Girl...
[11:23] <newuser> Anyway I want to configure my system
[11:23] <newuser> In the way I see everything fit, like in
[11:23] <newuser> Dekstop for insay,
[11:24] <newuser> Is that possible?
[11:24] <zerokills> bob2: i dont know what a tarball is, ive heard the term but never used it
[11:24] <newuser> I know it looks cool, and everything
[11:24] <vHintswen> thoreauputic what can i do to fix it?
[11:24] <bob2> newuser: what's your native language
[11:24] <bob2> ?
[11:24] <r0d> bob2,  when you make a ubuntu server, does it trim the kernel down at all?
[11:24] <bob2> zerokills: just like a .zip file
[11:24] <newuser> I'm sorry I am only in the 6th grade
[11:24] <barbas> hi everybody.
[11:24] <bob2> r0d: how would you trim it down?
[11:24] <newuser> I am only trying to figure this out
[11:24] <bob2> ChurcH_of_FoamY: there's lots of solitaire programs
[11:24] <cary> pfp, is installing the kernel especially hard, and how do i check my boot loader?
[11:24] <zerokills> bob2: ok, found the .zip file, how do i install it?
[11:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> swwet
[11:24] <newuser> But, I'f I want to configure my entire system
[11:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> sweet even
[11:24] <vHintswen> o.o
[11:24] <newuser> Can I configure it, like how I see it
[11:25] <hondje> newuser: feel free to msg me, maybe I can figure out what you need
[11:25] <newuser> In my mind..
[11:25] <r0d> bob2,  like alsa....etc
[11:25] <vHintswen> thoreauputic u there?
[11:25] <concept10> lsuactiafner, sorry.  I wasnt bashing you.  You just make wild statements like "Ubuntu doesnt like to compile stuff with default installation"  it could be "The default Ubuntu installation doesn't include some development tools, you must install them"  (Which is not hard to do)
[11:25] <bob2> newuser: you seem to be very confused
[11:25] <hondje> newuser: oh, you mean like the layout, the theme?
[11:25] <thoreauputic> vHintswen: if ls /etc returns nothing , I'd say it's time to reinstall : it suggests nothing will work at all
[11:25] <cary> general question: how woudl i make sure my default boot choice (for when it times out) is os x, not ubuntu?
[11:25] <newuser> ....
[11:25] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> the lady i'm building this system for wants only to play solitare and tetris
[11:25] <bob2> newuser: try to formulate what you mean, then start talking
[11:25] <newuser> I'm sorry..
[11:25] <newuser> I am confused..
[11:25] <bob2> r0d: no
[11:25] <vHintswen> re-install from same cd would fix?
[11:25] <barbas> Could someone go to the site http://www.in.gr with firefox, print the page in a file with firefox and tell if the printout is the same with the content displayed on the screen?
[11:25] <bob2> r0d: how would that help?  getting rid of them would only save a little bit of disk space (they don't use ram unless they're loaded)
[11:26] <r0d> i guess. I just always think that way. if it isnt needed, dont have it
[11:26] <bob2> cary: edit the yaboot config
[11:26] <pfp> cary: actually, heh, i don't remember, it's been a few years since i had linux on a mac (pc differs in this vs. mac vs. other architectures)
[11:26] <concept10> bob2, do you find this hard to manage sometimes?
[11:26] <bob2> r0d: if you really care, it's simple to build a custom kernel
[11:26] <bob2> concept10: which?
[11:26] <r0d> i know
[11:26] <newuser> In a specific way of detail..
[11:26] <r0d> just asking for furture builds bob2
[11:26] <cary> bob2, easier said than done. i guess there is a website that explains where the yaboot config is?
[11:26] <bob2> sure
[11:26] <concept10> bob2, channel
[11:26] <bob2> cary: doubt it
[11:26] <newuser> I want to configure my entire desktop in the image
[11:26] <vHintswen> o.o
[11:26] <bob2> cary: /etc/yaboot.conf
[11:26] <newuser> I see fit.
[11:27] <vHintswen> i'm just gonna re-install from the same cd then
[11:27] <newuser> Can I do this with Python..?
[11:27] <barbas> could someone help me please?
[11:27] <bob2> concept10: heh, irc has massively increased my typing speed
[11:27] <newuser> I am reading, it seems interesting and facinating.
[11:27] <pfp> cary: hopefully i'll have a chance to check that later, now i _really_ have to attend real-life stuff... ->
[11:27] <newuser> That's my only question.
[11:27] <cary> hah
[11:27] <bob2> newuser: you need to actually define what you want to do before anyone can help you
[11:27] <cary> thanks again pfp
[11:27] <hondje> newuser: you talking about wallpapers?
[11:27] <thoreauputic> vHintswen: assuming the CD is OK - have you checked its md5sum?
[11:27] <bob2> zerokills: http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther
[11:27] <bob2> zerokills: get that
[11:27] <newuser> The entire screen out the kernel
[11:28] <cary> bob2, i just gedit'ed yaboot.conf and it says its read online
[11:28] <cary> only*
[11:28] <hondje> newuser: I can't remember that cartoon well enough to know wtf you're talking about :)
[11:28] <newuser> With a different script.
[11:28] <hondje> newuser: the kernel is the part that does the interacting with the hardware, like drivers and stuff.
[11:28] <newuser> No that is only one example.
[11:28] <bob2> cary: sudo gedit /etc/yaboot.conf
[11:28] <thoreauputic> cary: you need "sudo gedit" or "gksudo gedit"
[11:28] <bob2> cary: from a terminal
[11:28] <newuser> I know.
[11:29] <zerokills> bob2: do i just extract the files to any location?
[11:29] <hondje> newuser: okay, so what do you mean 'the entire screen out of the kernel'?
[11:29] <FallenHitokiri> does somebody know how i can sync evolution with egroupware?
[11:29] <cary> bob2, what is gksudo?
[11:29] <bob2> zerokills: into your homedir would be a good place
[11:29] <thoreauputic> cary: just graphical password dialog
[11:29] <peppo> is there a way to list build dependencies in Ubuntu/Debian?
[11:29] <cary> ah
[11:29] <bob2> cary: a gtk version of sudo, I guess
[11:29] <newuser> Ok, like the screen saver
[11:29] <zerokills> k
[11:30] <bob2> peppo: yes, I told you how: apt-cache showsrc ardour
[11:30] <newuser> Can I use that in my desktop. with a good video card
[11:30] <newuser> like a radeon
[11:30] <hondje> newuser: yes
[11:30] <peppo> bob2, oops, my eyes must've failed me. sorry! didn't see the highlight. thanks!
[11:30] <newuser> :) Thanks.
[11:30] <hondje> newuser: oh, you mean as your background!
[11:30] <newuser> I'll look into that.
[11:30] <hondje> newuser: with stuff over it
[11:30] <cary> bob2, yeah..gtk means nothing to me. one day it will! but now..its like me talking to my mom and fstops and aperatures and, well, anything computer
[11:30] <newuser> I love psy music
[11:30] <newuser> I want to play crazy wicked
[11:30] <newuser> Color images
[11:30] <newuser> Psy stuff.
[11:30] <bob2> peppo: that's only for packaged software, tho, of course
[11:30] <cdc> i am unable to use totem to play movies i dont get sound at all
[11:31] <ussss> what is the best FTP client in Ubuntu? look-alike WS-FTP in windows ...
[11:31] <cdc> but i am able to play mp3s
[11:31] <newuser> Thank you.
[11:31] <newuser> Bye.
[11:31] <cdc> could some one help me ?
[11:31] <thoreauputic> cdc:
[11:31] <Eighth> bob2: need guru-level help w/ a confused apt-get
[11:31] <bob2> cary: ah, gtk = gimp toolkit = the stuff that draws buttons and scrollbars and etc
[11:31] <zever> ussss, you can use gftp
[11:31] <ussss> okie
[11:31] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[11:31] <bob2> Eighth: just ask your question to the channl
[11:31] <ubotu> restricted is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[11:31] <cary> cdc: for reference i really want to, but i know almost nothign
[11:31] <cdc> thoreauputic, ya tell me
[11:31] <bob2> ussss: nautilus is a pretty decent one
[11:31] <thoreauputic> cdc: see URL above
[11:31] <cary> bob2, ahha! now gtk means something. that was fast
[11:31] <bob2> hehe
[11:32] <cdc> thoreauputic, i ve done whats been specified in that site
[11:32] <ussss> whats the best .wma player in Ubuntu ?
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> doctor_who_2005.1x04.aliens_of_london.ws_pdtv_xvid-fov.avi
[11:32] <Eighth> when i run apt-get, i get a message regarding unresolved dependencies for libkrb53.
[11:32] <FallenHitokiri> join #gnome
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> er wrong windows
[11:32] <ussss> i cant play my .wma files in Ubuntu
[11:32] <FallenHitokiri> sorry
[11:32] <bob2> Eighth: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list 4to #flood
[11:32] <Eighth> i will pastebin, one moment
[11:32] <hondje> FallenHitokiri: I just checked their docs, doesn't say bud :)
[11:32] <newuser> obtain the package
[11:32] <HrdwrBoB> *window
[11:32] <bob2> HrdwrBoB: hah
[11:32] <thoreauputic> cdc: I suggest you install totem-xine, and w32codecs
[11:32] <bob2> HrdwrBoB: bad wolf will be revealed in 12 hours ;p
[11:33] <newuser> what do you mean?
[11:33] <FallenHitokiri> hondje: yeah... but someone mentioned that it should be possible...
[11:33] <HrdwrBoB> bob2: I have it here :)
[11:33] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh and if anyones interested i have gotten ubuntu to run on a mac 5400/180
[11:33] <bob2> HrdwrBoB: the episode airing tonight in the uk?
[11:33] <HrdwrBoB> bob2: episode 12 bad wolf
[11:33] <HrdwrBoB> ?
[11:33] <hondje> FallenHitokiri: quick googling says yes, but I never tried it
[11:34] <Eighth> bob2: done
[11:34] <bob2> HrdwrBoB: ah, yeah, that still didn't reveal who/what it is...the season finale is on tonight
[11:34] <HrdwrBoB> ahhh ok
[11:34] <bob2> oh, not to spoil it, sorry :)
[11:34] <FallenHitokiri> hondje: the problem is that i don't get a connection... i think i've got the wrong url but i don't know which one i should try
[11:34] <bob2> Eighth: and the full error from apt?
[11:34] <Eighth> bob2: pasted
[11:34] <HrdwrBoB> (I haven't watched it yet, I just have all of them so far .. only watched 1-3 :)
[11:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi church_of_foamy
[11:34] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> HI ^_^
[11:34] <hondje> FallenHitokiri: we don't use that at work, and I'm dumb w/ groupware stuff...
[11:34] <Kamping_Kaiser> ;)
[11:35] <hondje> best I've managed is to set up hula for home use
[11:35] <bob2> Eighth: that looks very much like you got a package from debian
[11:35] <FallenHitokiri> hondje: hehe ;) if i cannot solve this problem i just switch over to kubuntu... kontakt is able to sync ;)
[11:36] <rob^> anyone used avidemux before?
[11:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^
[11:36] <Eighth> bob2: i did in a fit of confusion
[11:36] <bob2> Eighth: you're kinda screwed
[11:36] <hondje> FallenHitokiri: if you didn't know, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop does that magically for you :)
[11:36] <Eighth> bloody hell
[11:37] <Eighth> there's nothing i can do?
[11:37] <bob2> Eighth: try removing libkrb53
[11:37] <bob2> Eighth: and then reinstalling it with apt (who will get it from the ubuntu mirror)
[11:37] <ussss> whats the best .wma player in Ubuntu ?
[11:37] <FallenHitokiri> hondje: my workstation is running kde... but... all the years... i hate it... i really hate kde... it's hard for me to swtich over and use all the other apps starting with k instead of a g
[11:37] <FallenHitokiri> ussss: vlc
[11:38] <ussss> okies thanks :)
[11:38] <hondje> FallenHitokiri: hehe, I used to like KDE, when KDE2 came out I was so happy, but 3 has gotten messier and messier, now I can't use it
[11:38] <Eighth> tried that... when removing, it gives errors such as "evolution: Depends: libkrb53 (>= 1.3.2) but it is not going to be installed"
[11:38] <Eighth> when installing, it wants to remove libc6 and the 108 packages that depend on it
[11:38] <hondje> bob2: why isn't there a spot in the places menu for the cd burner
[11:39] <bob2> hondje: I don't know.  does it appear in any of the nautilus menus?
[11:39] <bob2> Eighth: how did you get into this mess?
[11:39] <ubuntu> ive got a folder full of debs from a friend is there an easy way to install the whole folder?
[11:39] <bob2> yes, but it's a bad idea
[11:39] <hondje> bob2: sure, in places in any nautilus window
[11:39] <Eighth> bob2: apache wasn't starting and was giving an error message about a broken libkrb53
[11:39] <hondje> er, places menu
[11:40] <bob2> hondje: but not in the top places menu?
[11:40] <Eighth> bob: so i tried to install libkrb53, but apt said it wanted a newer version of libc6
[11:40] <bob2> Eighth: so you went and installed 108 packages from Debian?
[11:40] <hondje> bob2: yes, not in the top one off the panel
[11:40] <bob2> hondje: ah
[11:40] <bob2> hondje: that sounds like a bug to me
[11:40] <Eighth> bob2: no, i attempted to upgrade libc6, which has 108 dependants.
[11:40] <hondje> oh, I'll go file that then
[11:40] <bob2> Eighth: to what?
[11:40] <hondje> I haven't filed a bug in days
[11:41] <ubuntu> so is it possible?
[11:41] <cary> bob2, hey its done!
[11:41] <loz> does anyone know why the python bindings for gtksourceview are not included in the ubuntu repositories (any) when mono, ruby etc are.
[11:41] <bob2> ubuntu: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[11:41] <bob2> but it's a bad idea
[11:41] <bob2> loz: are they in Debian?
[11:42] <loz> bob2: not sure.
[11:42] <Eighth> bob2: 2.3.2.ds1-21ubuntu13 instead of 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13
[11:42] <Eighth> bob2: but it didn't want to upgrade libc6, so i stupidly grabbed the .deb from debian
[11:42] <Eighth> and now i'm kicking myself
[11:42] <bob2> yes
[11:42] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: you will probably get dependency problems , unless your cllection of debs is complete
[11:43] <bob2> loz: that would presumably be the reason why
[11:43] <loz> bob2: no it's not in debian stable.
[11:43] <bob2> Eighth: you only installed libc6, with dpkg?
[11:43] <loz> seems strange that it's not included tho.
[11:43] <bob2> Eighth: where did you get the libkrb53 that wanted a higher version?
[11:43] <ubuntu> tryd that command and got this dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[11:43] <Eighth> apt-get
[11:43] <cary> bob2, now that i have compiled i cant seem to find the .deb file. is that indeed what i am looking for for trying to install the kernel?
[11:43] <bob2> cary: ../
[11:44] <thoreauputic> Ubuntico: close sysnaptic
[11:44] <thoreauputic> *synaptic
[11:44] <ubuntu> ah yes
[11:44] <cary> bob2 one level up i see no .deb file
[11:45] <bob2> cary: then it didn't finish successfully
[11:45] <hondje> bob2: think that's a gnome-panel bug, or a nautilus bug?
[11:45] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: I hope these .debs are ubuntu debs ...
[11:45] <bob2> or it wasn't run correctly
[11:45] <bob2> hondje: I'm not sure
[11:45] <hondje> I'll file it as panel, since it's missing from the menu
[11:45] <ubuntu> thoreauputic: lol
[11:45] <hondje> let the devs move it around
[11:45] <bob2> hondje: I'd think paanel
[11:45] <bob2> yeah
[11:45] <ubuntu> thoreauputic: well its going
[11:45] <cary> here is the error it gave
[11:45] <cary> need root privileges
[11:45] <cary> make: *** [kernel-image-deb]  Error 1
[11:45] <cary> cary@lnx:~/kernel/linux-source-2.6.11$ pfp
[11:45] <cary> bash: pfp: command not found
[11:45] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: if not, you will have problems..
[11:46] <bob2> cary: run it as make-kpkg ... -rfakeroot
[11:46] <bob2> cary: where ... = whatever options you want to give it
[11:46] <cary> bob2, i know nothing about options
[11:46] <cary> bob2, this is for another day i think. its almost 5 am. sleep time.
[11:46] <bob2> cary: er, ok
[11:46] <cary> bob2, THANK YOU
[11:46] <ubuntu> thoreauptic: well it seemd to work
[11:46] <thoreauputic> ubuntu: lucky you :)
[11:47] <cary> i think im having a small heart attack. goodnight
[11:47] <bob2> cary: it'll have to build from scratch again, unfortunately
[11:47] <cary> bob2, yeah, i figured. alas. oh well. part of learning
[11:48] <Chetic> how do I compile a source after installing the .deb file containing the source?
[11:49] <bob2> Chetic: it'll have instructions in /usr/share/doc/packagename/README.Debian
[11:49] <Eighth> bob2: any other ideas?
[11:49] <ussss> zever, thanks a lot for telling me about gFTP. thats what I am looking for... :)
[11:50] <zever> usss, no prob
[11:50] <hondje> Why is gftp in universe?
[11:50] <ussss> :)
[11:50] <bob2> Eighth: I still don't understand what you did
[11:50] <bob2> Eighth: is libc6 and libkrb53 the only packages you got from outside ubuntu?
[11:50] <bob2> hondje: unsupported
[11:51] <roby> hi guys can you help me?
[11:51] <roby> i have a big problem in ubuntu
[11:51] <Eighth> bob2: yes
[11:51] <roby> the sound doesn't work
[11:51] <hondje> bob2: ah
[11:51] <bob2> Eighth: then reinstall them from ubuntu
[11:52] <roby> the inboard sound is C-Media cmi9761
[11:52] <bob2> Eighth: apt-cache policy libc6, then apt-get install libc6=1.2.3 (the version number you got from the policy output
[11:52] <roby> it is perfectly detected but no sound
[11:52] <roby> and the strange thing
[11:52] <hondje> thoreauputic: your nick makes me cynical :)
[11:53] <roby> is that in a minidistro live-cd like damnsmalllinux it works perfectly!
[11:53] <thoreauputic> hondje: heh - well I stick with it because it's how I'm known now
[11:53] <roby> any ideas?
[11:53] <Eighth> bob2: results are pasted @ http://rafb.net/paste/results/OjMhk527.html
[11:53] <rob^> anyone know where I can get a ubuntu .deb package for avidemux?
[11:53] <hondje> thoreauputic: heh, I'm stuck with hondje too
[11:54] <thoreauputic> hondje: think Civil Disobedience rather than Walden pond... ;)
[11:54] <zever> rob^ sudo apt-get install avidemux
[11:54] <hondje> thoreauputic: Yeah, I got it, oddly enough :)
[11:54] <bob2> Eighth: sudo dpkg -P --force-depends libkrb53
[11:54] <bob2> Eighth: then try again
[11:54] <rob^> zenrox, what repository?
[11:55] <hondje> rob^: It's not in any
[11:55] <rob^> zever I mean
[11:55] <rob^> hondje, so it seems..
[11:55] <Eighth> bob2: i could hug you, but i won't ;)  thank you
[11:55] <Eighth> that did the trick
[11:55] <hondje> rob^: Let me do a quick check, maybe it's easy to build one
[11:55] <bob2> Eighth: np
[11:55] <zerokills> how do i copy a file from one location to another in terminal?
[11:55] <Eighth> you're an asset to this community
[11:56] <bob2> zerokills: cp source dest
[11:56] <rob^> hondje, just did, requires libxml2 package which is installed but the make file cant find it
[11:56] <zerokills> bob2 thx
[11:56] <rob^> hondje, I used subversion
[11:56] <hondje> rob^: is there a libxml-dev
[11:56] <hondje> rob^: oh, I've seen that
[11:56] <rob^> hondje, I'll see how that goes..
[11:56] <hondje> rob^: how's it better than kino or dvd::rip
[11:57] <rob^> hondje, dunno, I just want to convert avis to mpgs
[11:58] <rob^> I'll check out kino
[11:59] <rZr> hi
[11:59] <zever> rob^ its in the repositories of ftp.nerim.net
[12:00] <rob^> zenrox, thanx
[12:00] <ussss> VLC player plays my audio files, but I heard nothing...
[12:00] <ussss> :(
[12:01] <ussss> even my volume control is almost up and also my speaker
[12:01] <hondje> ussss: dbl click the volume thingie, are those all up too?
[12:01] <ussss> where ?
[12:01] <wdh> hi ppls.. does anyone know of a good tool that counts the amount of data-transfer over my internetconnection  during a month?
[12:01] <ussss> in VLC ?
[12:01] <hondje> ussss: on gnome-panel
[12:02] <zerokills> bob2: how do i create a folder in terminal?
[12:02] <hondje> rob^: kino is for dvcams and stuff, not what you want
[12:02] <zerokills> err dir
[12:02] <thoreauputic> wdh: gkrellm can do that for you
[12:02] <ussss> hondje, what menu ?
[12:02] <rob^> zever, what nerim.net repository?
[12:03] <thoreauputic> zerokills: mkdir
[12:03] <hondje> ussss: the little volume control thing on the panel, should be next to the clock
[12:03] <zerokills> thoreauputic, thx
[12:03] <thoreauputic> zerokills: I suggest you read http://tuxfiles.org
[12:03] <ussss> hondje, almost in Maximum level
[12:03] <hondje> ussss: pcm too?
[12:03] <ussss> pcm ? where ?
[12:03] <thoreauputic> zerokills: good stuff there about the command line for beginners
[12:04] <wdh> thoreauputic, but gkrellm is some graphical thingy.. i just want a daemon which i just adds all trafficcounts up for each month.. and then allows me to readout the total..
[12:04] <hondje> ussss: dbl click that volume thing
[12:04] <ussss> but when I play my audio CDs, i can play it withour problems
[12:04] <zerokills> thoreauputic, sweet thanks, ill check it out
[12:05] <ussss> hondje, PCM is also almost in Maximum level
[12:05] <sparkling> hi all
[12:05] <hondje> ussss: then you got me :) Turn off vlc, in a terminal run 'killall esd' and try again, maybe
[12:05] <sparkling> does anyone use tools to monitoring cpu temperature, hard drives temperature and fan speed?
[12:05] <ussss> okie
[12:05] <zever> rob^ deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[12:06] <zever> rob^ deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[12:06] <zever> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[12:06] <zever> one of these
[12:06] <hondje> oh no, marillat :(
[12:06] <rob^> zever, the stable/unstable are not listed on the page
[12:06] <loz> i founf gtksourceview-py.  it's not a separate package, but part of gnome-python-extras.  Is it possible for someone to add that as a virtual package with gnome-python-extras as a dependancy?
[12:06] <hondje> it should be required to learn pinning :)
[12:06] <rob^> hondje, not hard
[12:07] <ussss> hondje, :) thanks a lot!!!
[12:07] <ussss> :)
[12:07] <ussss> it plays now....
[12:07] <ussss> hehehehe
[12:07] <hondje> ussss: glad to help :)
[12:07] <ussss> what ESD mean ?
[12:07] <ussss> why I will kill him first ?
[12:07] <hondje> ussss: esd is the sound daemon for ubuntu (over simple, but hey)
[12:08] <ussss> sorry for that, Im just a Linux newbie
[12:08] <thoreauputic> sparkling: apt-cache search lmsensors
[12:08] <djs> !esd
[12:08] <ubotu> hmm... esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[12:08] <hondje> lm-sensors is the package
[12:08] <Fabian> good morning
[12:08] <ussss> thanks once again :)
[12:08] <loz> usss you need not kill it.  if you install esound-clients you can turn it off temporarily using esdctl off, then on with esdctl on
[12:09] <thoreauputic> hondje: oops - missed the "-"
[12:09] <Fabian> pfp, are you here?
[12:10] <thoreauputic> sparkling: as hondje says, lm-sensors
[12:10] <ussss> loz, :D
[12:10] <ussss> loz, id killed it already as what hondje told me... now my VLC runs smoothly
[12:13] <ussss> wow! even .wmv and .wma can play it using VLC
[12:14] <lsuactiafner> ussss : if you got a 64bit system you need a static mplayer binary to play wmv
[12:14] <ussss> i tried one of the sex scandals in .wmv format and it works... :)
[12:16] <sparkling> all done thanx guys
[12:16] <ussss> bye
[12:16] <ussss> :)
[12:17] <gorthaug> hi i've a problem with amsn... the icons of the try ico are white
[12:18] <thoreauputic> gorthaug: the icon may be missing from your theme - does it show with a different theme?
[12:18] <tjs> gday
[12:19] <tjs> does ubuntu have a special config or place to add route rules or config routing?
[12:19] <r0d> what program can i use for backing up dvd movies?
[12:19] <bob2> tjs: /etc/network/interfaces
[12:19] <tjs> oh
[12:20] <gorthaug> thoreauputic: i doesn't show with other them...
[12:20] <Dackel> How can I a package-choice with ubuntu-install?
[12:20] <Dackel> +use
[12:20] <jason_> any body know why files listed in .hidden still show in the gnome file picker?
[12:21] <Dackel> I don't habe a big hard-disk,
[12:21] <thoreauputic> gorthaug: OK - just a guess: sometimes tha is the problem - can you right click it and change properties? (I don't use amsn...)
[12:21] <Dackel> 2 GB
[12:21] <gorthaug> yes the icon works but it's white
[12:21] <thoreauputic> jason_: right click in the file list and choose to hide then/reveal them
[12:22] <thoreauputic> gorthaug: *shrug* don't know - file a bug perhaps ?
[12:22] <radix> bob2: is the idea to just add scripts that call 'route' commands, or is there a syntax specifically for doing advanced-ish routing stuff?
[12:22] <bob2> radix: add ip-up hooks
[12:23] <jason_> thoreauputic: I have hidden on but the files i have in .hidden are still visible, files starting with a . are hidden
[12:23] <radix> bob2: right, ok.
[12:23] <Dackel> thanks fo the 'nice' answer
[12:23] <thoreauputic> jason_: ah I see - I don't know then
[12:24] <jason_> :(
[12:24] <hondje> oh, that reminds me!
[12:24] <hondje> How do you make hidden files in windows?
[12:25] <thoreauputic> another impatient customer leaves...
[12:25] <gorthaug> thoreauputic: it's the same package that i've been installed in others PC with ubuntu hoary
[12:25] <jason_> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129170 says it was fixed :(
[12:26] <cdc> is it possible to run shareazza in Linux?
[12:26] <ibo> are there ubuntu guys here? id just like to say that samba should be included in an ubuntu default install.
[12:27] <hondje> ibo: samba server?
[12:27] <hondje> or just support to access shares?
[12:28] <thoreauputic> ibo: it's on the disc, ready to be installed by those who need it
[12:28] <thoreauputic> ibo: servers are not installed by default: openssh-server is the same
[12:29] <ibo> well.. for power users its a piece of cake. for users targetted by ubuntu, it isnt.
[12:29] <thoreauputic> ibo: users targetted by ubuntu usually wouldn't set up a samba server
[12:30] <bob2> ibo: that's very unlikely to happen, sorry
[12:30] <amr> i just installe apache2, then libapache2-python, how do i enable it so python works with apache?
[12:30] <amr> i've looked on the ubuntu site, no help
[12:30] <hondje> I even filed a bug, but no one looked at it
[12:30] <ussss> what is the good source code/text editor in Ubuntu...
[12:30] <ibo> why not? anyway forgive my ignorant question, but isnt samba that enables the network sharing?
[12:30] <ibo> i mean folder sharing
[12:31] <ussss> will also identify the no. lines
[12:31] <hondje> ibo: that or NFS
[12:31] <hondje> for the shared-folders thing
[12:31] <cdc> isnt it possible to download the kernel-source using apt-get in ubuntu?
[12:31] <hondje> But do you really want a bunch of newbies who don't know what SMB is using default samba installs on the internet?
[12:31] <cdc> i want 2.6-X source ?
[12:31] <thoreauputic> cdc: apt-cache search linux-source
[12:31] <hondje> cdc: yes
[12:32] <amr> can anyone help?
[12:32] <mindspin> amr httpd.conf ?
[12:32] <amr> mindspin, what about it
[12:32] <ibo> it doesnt have to be enabled. important thing is.. the only thing they have to do is flick a switch to use it.
[12:33] <ibo> like the winxp firewall.
[12:33] <amr> i've tried copying in the stuff from the modpython site, no work
[12:33] <hondje> are there any non-Free downloads on sourceforge?
[12:33] <mindspin> I guess you have to enable python or mod pythoon in your httpd.conf
[12:33] <amr> mindspin, its in mods-enabled
[12:33] <cdc> does ubuntu come with a web server by default or i have to install it?
[12:33] <amr> cdc, its easy to install
[12:34] <ibo> a household woul usually have multiple PCs right? so with ubuntu, they have to "RTFM" to enable folder sharing?
[12:34] <bob2> ibo: to use, all you have to do is install the package in synaptic
[12:34] <bob2> hondje: yes
[12:34] <hondje> bob2: hrm, okay.  Might have to email these cats to find their license then :(
[12:34] <mindspin> amr did you have a look in the apache logs?
[12:35] <bob2> hondje: e.g. cedega
[12:35] <hondje> bob2: didn't know they used sourceforge...is that for their CVS stuff?
[12:35] <amr> [Sat Jun 18 11:32:12 2005]  [notice]  mod_python: Creating 20 session mutexes based on 20 max processes and 0 max threads.
[12:35] <amr> [Sat Jun 18 11:32:12 2005]  [notice]  Apache/2.0.53 (Ubuntu) mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.4.1 PHP/4.3.10-10ubuntu4 configured -- resuming normal operations
[12:36] <mindspin> try #apache
[12:36] <amr> thanks :)
[12:37] <McScruff> hello
[12:37] <bob2> hondje: yes
[12:38] <ibo> *sigh*. ok now that ive installed samba.. how do i let others access my shared folder? its asking for user/password. im afraid the normal user have to fire up a terminal and edit some obscure config file.
[12:38] <McScruff> does anyone know how to install klibido
[12:38] <synd> can someone test out my nicecast? http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8000/playlist.pls
[12:38] <McScruff> the deb wont install
[12:39] <synd> it should run in rhythmbox
[12:39] <Bramme> i installed the dutch language pack for Thunderbird, it is in the extension window, but the language stays english, how do i change that ?
[12:40] <hondje> Bramme: easiest thing to do is log out, pick dutch as your language in GDM, and log back in...but that assumes you want it ALL in dutch
[12:41] <Bramme> i want only mozilla in dutch
[12:41] <bob2> ibo: share it anonymously then
[12:41] <char1iecha1k> hello can i have some help please installing linux-686-smp please
[12:41] <bob2> char1iecha1k: you need to explain your problem first
[12:41] <hondje> Bramme: hrm, okay
[12:41] <mindspin> I had firefox and thunderbird enabled german language pack and it gave me strange efffects.. so I changed back to english
[12:41] <char1iecha1k> when i type sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp it says package not found
[12:41] <hondje> Bramme: Let me find out what I did...I set up firefox to run korean while everything else is english
[12:42] <thoreauputic> synd: works here
[12:42] <Chetic> mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:42] <Chetic> Is there any way to make it not care about GL? It's not like it's really needed
[12:42] <bob2> char1iecha1k: well, it does exist; paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[12:42] <thoreauputic> synd: but I used beep ;)
[12:42] <synd> thoreauputic: oo good deal : )
[12:42] <bob2> Chetic: is that a binary mplayer from a package?
[12:43] <Chetic> bob2, from an Ubuntu package, yeah
[12:43] <bob2> Chetic: so...why don't you have libGL anymore?
[12:43] <Chetic> bob2, fglrx messed it up and I can't get it fixed
[12:43] <Chetic> I still have the actual file though, in the right place
[12:43] <hondje> Bramme: does the languages thing in 'preferences' only affect the webpages themselves?
[12:43] <bob2> Chetic: you tried to install it from outside ubuntu?
[12:44] <char1iecha1k> bob2, i havent changed anything in there, do i neeed to before it works, if not i will paste it in flood
[12:44] <bob2> char1iecha1k: paste it
[12:44] <Chetic> bob2, sorry I don't follow
[12:44] <Bramme> hondje, it's about thunderbird
[12:44] <char1iecha1k> bob2, whats the full channel name
[12:44] <iluciv> testing a file.sh file to see if it works possible??
[12:44] <hondje> Bramme: Oh, I saw mozilla and got stupid, I don't have that one
[12:44] <bob2> Chetic: anyway, don't install binary crap from outside ubuntu, and reinstall the xlibmesa-gl package now
[12:44] <Bramme> hondje, btw, are you korean ?
[12:45] <bob2> char1iecha1k: #flood
[12:45] <hondje> Bramme: Nope, and I'm not dutch either :)
[12:45] <char1iecha1k> bob2,  sorry im being thick
[12:45] <hondje> But the missus is korean, and her mom cannot read english
[12:45] <Chetic> bob2, I used Synaptic to install it.. the problem is not really in mplayer, I just want to bypass it
[12:45] <Bramme> hondje, what are you then ?
[12:45] <hondje> American
[12:45] <bob2> Chetic: yes, I know.  the fix is to install the xlibmesa-gl package.
[12:45] <Bramme> hondje, strange, because 'hondje' is a dutch word
[12:45] <Chetic> bob2, I have it already.. how do I reinstall it then?
[12:46] <hondje> Bramme: yep, puppy :)
[12:46] <Bramme> :)
[12:46] <bob2> Chetic: sudo apt-get --reinstall install xlibmesa-gl
[12:46] <hondje> As in 'hondje is een gekke snoodaard'
[12:46] <bob2> char1iecha1k: remove the # from the 3rd line and run 'sudo apt-get update', then you'll be able to install it
[12:46] <hondje> I have a lot of dutch friends, my nick mutated over time
[12:46] <Bramme> ow
[12:46] <Bramme> nice
[12:46] <char1iecha1k> bob2, cheers
[12:46] <Bramme> :)
[12:47] <hondje> Bramme: Seems like a nice place, never met a grumpy dutchie :)
[12:47] <hondje> In fact, this coming Feb. I should be staying in Hilversum for a week
[12:47] <Chetic> bob2, well that gave me this: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibmesa-gl_6.8.2-10_amd64.deb (--unpack): | trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2', which is also in package fglrx64-6-8-0 | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[12:47] <Bramme> well, i'm not dutch, i'm belgian
[12:47] <Bramme> but that's pretty close :p
[12:47] <bob2> Chetic: oh man
[12:48] <iluciv> ok how many ways can you execute a "file.sh" file
[12:48] <bob2> Chetic: who told you to install fglrx64-6-8-0?
[12:48] <bob2> iluciv: 93
[12:48] <hondje> plus xs4all hosts my website, nice w/ us hosts being stupid
[12:48] <Chetic> bob2, I want hardware acceleration, ATi did
[12:48] <hondje> Bramme: ah, my second week is going to be in Antwerpen :)
[12:48] <iluciv> what!!
[12:48] <bob2> Chetic: if you want hardware acceleration, read wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:48] <bob2> Chetic: you don't just go install broken packages from ati
[12:48] <Bramme> hondje, Antwerpen rulez :d
[12:49] <hondje> So my friend says, and it's time I visit him instead of making them fly here :)
[12:49] <Chetic> bob2, I've followed several guides that say it should work fine
[12:49] <bob2> Chetic: sudo dpkg -P fglrx64-6-8-0 ; sudo apt-get --reinstall install xlibmesa-gl
[12:49] <bob2> Chetic: those guides are wrong
[12:49] <Chetic> bob2, the people happily using it too? :/
[12:49] <bob2> Chetic: yes
[12:49] <iluciv> bob2: anyway to test a "file.sh" to see if it works or where it doesn't
[12:49] <bob2> Chetic: those packages are incompatible with ubuntu
[12:49] <Chetic> bob2, the latest version of ATi's drivers are the only ones that work with my graphics card
[12:49] <hondje> Bramme: I just installed all that, and I'm getting the impression tat they only put everything in dutch if your session is set to dutch, too
[12:49] <bob2> ouch
[12:49] <Chetic> Yep, shitty situation
[12:50] <hondje> and I can't get firefox to show the menus in korean right now either, I must have borked the work-around when I nuked firefox 20 times
[12:50] <thoreauputic> iluciv:  sh file.sh or ./file.sh if you made it executable (chmod +x)
[12:50] <char1iecha1k> bob2, i am going to paste what i got from doin g that into #flood
[12:51] <bob2> char1iecha1k: show me your /etc/pt/sources.list now
[12:51] <hondje> too bad firefox guys aren't as nice as these ubuntu cats, like bob2 the guru
[12:52] <Bramme> hondje, how do i set the main language to dutch then ? (don't have gdm)
[12:52] <iluciv> thoreauputic:well it's someone elses script to update the kernel and it did work now when I run it it only give a new command prompt underneith with no run
[12:52] <hondje> Bramme: oh, that's a good question w/out gdm
[12:52] <Bramme> lol
[12:52] <hondje> Bramme: what are you doing, just startx?
[12:52] <Bramme> euh, trying to get gdm working, but that failed since i had to deinstall alsa
[12:52] <Howitzer> Wooooooohooooooooo
[12:52] <Bramme> ( to compile it myself, long story :p )
[12:53] <hondje> Bramme: apt-get install gdm complained?
[12:53] <Bramme> yes
[12:53] <hondje> oh, long story then :)
[12:53] <Howitzer> i finally found Visual Boy Advance for Linux \ o /
[12:53] <Bramme> ALSA is a depencie
[12:53] <hondje> I screwed up gdm when I gave Entrace a spin :)
[12:53] <thoreauputic> iluciv: do you understand the script? running other people's scripts without reading them and knowing what they do is... erm...not a good idea?
[12:54] <Bramme> well, i'm going to eat
[12:54] <Bramme> cu guys
[12:55] <iluciv> thoreauputic: well I looked through it and I think I know what it is supposed to do I don't really know because I'd be able to make it work if I did; does that make sense? There doesn't seem to be anything wrong in the writing of it.
[12:55] <Howitzer> btw
[12:55] <Howitzer> where do i configure KDM in Kubuntu?
[12:56] <ompaul> thoreauputic, can you take a pm?
[12:56] <HrdwrBoB> Howitzer: #kubuntu
[12:56] <Howitzer> -_-
[12:56] <thoreauputic> ompaul: sure
[12:56] <HrdwrBoB> it would be in the control center somewhere though
[12:57] <ralf_> nas
[12:57] <ralf_> como borro paquetes de programas con dpkg o con apt-get remove ?
[12:58] <hondje> ralf_: #ubuntu-es
[12:58] <char1iecha1k> bob2, looks like it is doing what is supposed to do now, shouldnt take too long on 2meg line
[12:58] <hondje> ralf_: este canal hablamos ingles
[12:58] <ralf_> hondje a perdon
[12:58] <ralf_> okis asias
[12:58] <hondje> :)
[12:59] <bob2> char1iecha1k: cool
[12:59] <CM> how do i change fstab to mount a fat32 floppy ?
[01:00] <char1iecha1k> bob2, no errosr, shold i reboot now?
[01:00] <bob2> char1iecha1k: yes
[01:00] <MrEEE> [CM]  ... /dev/fd0         /mnt/floppy      vfat        noauto,user,rw   0   0
[01:00] <mindspin> Howitzer what do you want to do ?
[01:00] <Howitzer> well
[01:01] <Howitzer> just want to configure it a bit
[01:01] <Howitzer> auto-login after 30secs for example
[01:01] <CM> MrEEE, thanks
[01:01] <mindspin> the appearace? or what ever?
[01:01] <hondje> CM: remember to umount the floppy before ejecting it, I've screwed that up so many times, and it's a bummer to lose data :(
[01:01] <Howitzer> also yes
[01:01] <CM> ;) lol
[01:01] <mindspin> sudo kcontrol
[01:01] <Howitzer> is it configurable like GDM?
[01:01] <mindspin> and then have a look
[01:01] <Howitzer> oh
[01:01] <Howitzer> damn
[01:02] <Howitzer> should've known that >_
[01:02] <mindspin> no prob
[01:02] <Howitzer> aaah
[01:02] <Howitzer> Sys Administration 'login manager' :D
[01:02] <CM> W00T just got the new 5.04 cd's :P
[01:03] <Howitzer> wtf
[01:03] <Howitzer> i can't go into root mode >_<
[01:03] <CM> Howitzer, su then type password
[01:03] <Howitzer> ah
[01:04] <Howitzer> no i was talking about kcontrol :d
[01:04] <CM> ahhhhh :|
[01:04] <CM> login as root ?
[01:04] <Howitzer> ubuntu doesn't support root :D
[01:05] <thoreauputic> CM: su doesn't work on Ubuntu - we use sudo
[01:05] <Howitzer> and i don't trust myself in rootmode :/
[01:05] <hondje> this gconf-editor is neat
[01:05] <CM> :O SU works for me
[01:05] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: sudo -s to get a root shell
[01:05] <HrdwrBoB> CM: not by default it doesn't
[01:05] <CM> well it does on my one, i am using warty at the moment
[01:05] <Howitzer> eek
[01:05] <thoreauputic> CM: you've changed something from default
[01:05] <HrdwrBoB> CM: then it's not default
[01:06] <HrdwrBoB> on a plain warty/hoary install you cannot use su or login as root
[01:06] <CM> su has always worked :\
[01:06] <orjan> If i got a "Intel Pentrum 4"-processor should I download XMMS-"Intel x86" ?
[01:06] <CM> and i have not changed any thing
[01:06] <HrdwrBoB> CM: how did you set the root password
[01:06] <thoreauputic> CM: did you use "expert" install ?
[01:06] <HrdwrBoB> orjan: correct
[01:06] <orjan> thx
[01:06] <CM> i can't remember now
[01:06] <Howitzer> lol
[01:06] <HrdwrBoB> CM: setting the root password with sudo allows you to use su
[01:06] <hondje> hrm, what's a 'musicbrainz_server'?
[01:06] <CM> and i've fogot how to set the root password
[01:07] <HrdwrBoB> but on a normal default install, you cannot use su
[01:07] <CM> passwd ?
[01:07] <Howitzer> wtf
[01:07] <CM> let me check
[01:07] <Howitzer> they have a 'blowfish' at the login manager as an icon
[01:07] <Howitzer> perverts >_<
[01:08] <char1iecha1k> bob2, thanks, its all working! i now get 2 cpu in the sys mon
[01:08] <CM> yea i use passwd to set the root password
[01:08] <CM> well sudo passwd
[01:08] <bob2> cool
[01:09] <bob2> there's no need to enable the root account, of course
[01:10] <MrEEE> "no need" .. so true.. for readonly users...
[01:10] <McScruff> dpkg-deb: control directory has bad permissions 2755 (must be >=0755 and <=0775)  - how do  ifix this
[01:10] <hondje> MrEEE: I've only found one time I NEEDED root
[01:10] <bob2> MrEEE: "readonly users"?
[01:10] <hondje> which was odd, I figured pretending your uid was 0 was enough
[01:10] <bob2> I've been using ubuntu for over a year now, and I've never needed a root account
[01:11] <bob2> MrEEE: when doing what?
[01:11] <hondje> bob2: ethereal
[01:11] <CM> i use root alot but only in the terminal thing alt+ctrl+F2
[01:11] <hondje> Some guy dropped the science on the why to me, has to do with kernel access
[01:11] <xirtam> i get W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com hoary-security Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 40976EAF437D05B5
[01:11] <bob2> hondje: ah, yeah
[01:11] <xirtam> on apt-get update ... any ideas?
[01:11] <MrEEE> cant access true hardware accel in "loser" (user) mode.. otherwise.. i agree.. root is forbidden :)
[01:11] <bob2> tho, I use ethereal as a normal user
[01:12] <asdfasdf> Does anybody know of any good open source python projects that a newcomer to python could analyse to understand how python works?
[01:12] <bob2> xirtam: gpg --recv-key 40976EAF437D05B5 ; gpg --export 40976EAF437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[01:12] <hondje> bob2: I need it for testing out something, and could only use it right as root
[01:12] <Howitzer> wth
[01:12] <CM> at the moment i am using root in gnome because i am copying and editing system files
[01:12] <bob2> MrEEE: add them to the video group
[01:12] <Howitzer> i'm compiling this GBA Emulator
[01:12] <bob2> CM: er, that's a bad idea to begin with
[01:12] <CM> makes it more easy to do :P
[01:12] <MrEEE> asdfasdf... check out some cool scripts for blender3d.org 's awesome little .. well go see
[01:13] <Howitzer> and it keeps nagging about lzib or libpng mising
[01:13] <CM> i am making a backup of system files for horey
[01:13] <Howitzer> pfoe
[01:13] <kvidell> oh my...
[01:13] <thoreauputic> CM: great way to break your system in two clicks...
[01:13] <kvidell> 10.4.1 is nice..
[01:13] <Howitzer> Wha
[01:13] <CM> lol
[01:13] <Howitzer> Ubuntu 10.4.1? Oo
[01:14] <kvidell> Tiger :-P
[01:14] <asdfasdf> MrEEE... ok, but any simple projects? I've used blender before and I still dont fully understand 3D progs...
[01:14] <Howitzer> we're only at 5.10 :/
[01:14] <kvidell> OSx
[01:14] <Howitzer> oooh
[01:14] <kvidell> sorry. hehe
[01:14] <Howitzer> okay :D
[01:14] <Howitzer> hmm
[01:14] <kvidell> I only use Ubuntu on my PC laptops
[01:14] <kvidell> my desktops are mac
[01:14] <bob2> Howitzer: install zlib0g-dev and libpng-dev
[01:14] <CM> oooooo blender :P
[01:14] <CM> i got blender :P
[01:14] <Howitzer> if ubuntu 5.10 comes out, i'm going to ask my dad if i can order some cd's
[01:14] <bob2> "if"?
[01:14] <bob2> when!
[01:14] <kvidell> aren't they free?
[01:15] <xirtam> what is wrong with fluxbox in ubuntu ... ?
[01:15] <bob2> kvidell: of course!
[01:15] <hondje> There should be an option to pay for ubuntu CDs
[01:15] <bob2> xirtam: it works for thousands of people
[01:15] <hondje> I'd get them if I could buy them
[01:15] <thoreauputic> xirtam: it freezes, right?
[01:15] <bob2> hondje: why?
[01:15] <cthulfuego> hondje: You can pay me anytime.
[01:15] <Howitzer> ehh
[01:15] <xirtam> thoreauputic: yes!
[01:15] <cthulfuego> hondje: ... and I'll send you an ubuntu CD.
[01:15] <xirtam> you know why?
[01:15] <thoreauputic> xirtam: I have compiled my own fluxbox deb
[01:15] <Howitzer> something weird is going on
[01:15] <CM> i got lot's of ubuntu cd's
[01:15] <hondje> bob2: Because I'd feel better about the resource usage then
[01:16] <thoreauputic> xirtam: I can tell you about it if you wish
[01:16] <xirtam> thoreauputic: what is the problem?
[01:16] <hondje> cthulfuego: hehe :)  Are you a registered F/OSS project ;-)
[01:16] <bob2> hondje: you can donate to ubuntu if you feel the urge
[01:16] <HappyFool> hondje: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/donations/document_view
[01:16] <thoreauputic> xirtam: hang on a tick
[01:16] <xirtam> thoreauputic: let me download your deb-file ...
[01:16] <Howitzer> when i do apt-get install, it automaticly installs, not asking for Y/N
[01:16] <hondje> oh neat, donate...I thought they were trying to go w/ paid support for the bills
[01:16] <cthulfuego> hondje: Registered? Do we have to _register_ now to be f/oss?
[01:16] <asdfasdf> also, i hvae a laptop with windows xp 2nd ed. I want to install Ubuntu as 2nd os. Do i just defrag, reboot into cd and install? Does ubunty resize partitions properly?
[01:16] <hondje> HappyFool: was it you who showed me that magical graphing lib?
[01:16] <HappyFool> Howitzer: i think it only asks if there are extra dependencies to install
[01:16] <HappyFool> hondje: matplotlib?
[01:16] <Howitzer> ooh
[01:16] <Fanskapet> hmm anyone tried to compile WINE on AMD64 ubuntu ?
[01:16] <hondje> cthulfuego: with the official F/OSS man
[01:16] <bob2> hondje: donations don't go to canonical
[01:16] <Howitzer> configure: error: *** Couldn't find SDL library (version >= 1.2.2).
[01:17] <Howitzer> wth
[01:17] <hondje> HappyFool: ah yes, thank you sir!!
[01:17] <bob2> hondje: they only go towards bounties
[01:17] <hondje> HappyFool: I lost that bookmark :(
[01:17] <bob2> Howitzer: so, install it
[01:17] <Howitzer> i thought i had everything needed >_<
[01:17] <bob2> Howitzer: libsdl1.2-dev
[01:17] <hondje> bob2: oh, that's a noble causes
[01:17] <thoreauputic> xirtam: you need to compile it with --disable-xmb   as a ./configure option
[01:17] <Howitzer> damn
[01:17] <HappyFool> hondje: http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/ ?
[01:17] <CM> woohoo silent hill 3 is so fun :P
[01:17] <Howitzer> Ubuntians are the most noblest people alive!
[01:18] <hondje> HappyFool: Yep, just clicked that from google...I tried it out the other day, it was awesome
[01:18] <Howitzer> Silent Hill 3?(game or that lame movie with julia roberts?)
[01:18] <thoreauputic> xirtam: I can dcc mine if you like: but you will need a ~/.xsession file for it
[01:18] <CM> the game :P
[01:18] <Fanskapet> that wineinstall tool just outputs checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:18] <cthulfuego> hondje: I *AM* the official f/soss man!
[01:18] <bob2> Fanskapet: install build-essential
[01:18] <hondje> cthulfuego: RMS? Did you shave?! :o
[01:18] <Howitzer> f/soss?
[01:19] <cthulfuego> hondje: See, I have business cards and everything
[01:19] <Fanskapet> bob2, been there.. done that :)
[01:19] <thoreauputic> xirtam: do you want it?
[01:19] <bob2> Fanskapet: talk to them then, their configure script is broken
[01:19] <Howitzer> is it hard to make a distro? :/
[01:19] <bob2> Fanskapet: assuming you deleted config.cache
[01:19] <cthulfuego> Cthulfuego - F/OSS MAN - Devourer of Worlds
[01:19] <bob2> Howitzer: a lot of pointless work
[01:19] <Howitzer> why?
[01:19] <hondje> Howitzer: Free/Open source
[01:19] <Chetic> moagg, everybody play moagg
[01:19] <cthulfuego> hondje: RMS isn't a _person_, it's a franchise.
[01:19] <bob2> Howitzer: because there are already five bajillion distributions out there
[01:20] <Howitzer> maybe o
[01:20] <hondje> RMS is a prophet, brother cthulfuego
[01:20] <CM> yes and ubuntu is the best :D
[01:20] <hondje> He saw the future
[01:20] <Fanskapet> bob2,  hmm where is the config.cache located?
[01:20] <cthulfuego> And the future was HAIRY!
[01:20] <Howitzer> i just hope they don't make a distro made for acting like windows
[01:20] <bob2> Fanskapet: in the source tree
[01:20] <thoreauputic> xirtam: ping ?
[01:20] <cthulfuego> !ping
[01:20] <ubotu> Keep your fingers to yourself, cthulfuego.
[01:20] <Howitzer> HOARY :w
[01:20] <bob2> Howitzer: it's called lindows
[01:20] <Howitzer> Ew
[01:20] <Fanskapet> bob2,  yeah that im aware of but i can't find it in the tree :)
[01:20] <CM> ewwwwwwwwwwwww
[01:21] <cthulfuego> Ubuntu 5.04 - Hairy Hedgehod
[01:21] <bob2> Fanskapet: guess that's not the problem then
[01:21] <hondje> All the other 'big cats' are kinda hokey....ESR wants it to always be 1989, DJB is a putz, Linus is a human and ergo not-perfect, Larry Wall is too busy being funny and making a scary language...
[01:21] <vniki> hi @ll
[01:21] <Howitzer> they actually ABUSED linux into making a Winblows alike distro? *cries*
[01:21] <bob2> Fanskapet: their configure script is screwed if it bails and you have build-essential installed
[01:21] <hondje> de Raadt is de Rant :D
[01:21] <bob2> Fanskapet: unless you have silly cflags or something set
[01:21] <cthulfuego> hondje: Once you get past the seizures and drinking problem, I'm probably the sanest foss person.
[01:21] <Fanskapet> bob2,  /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc-lib/x86_64-linux/3.3.5/libgcc.a when searching for -lgcc
[01:21] <hondje> Howitzer: on the plus side, lindows spends money on a few projects
[01:21] <Fanskapet> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc
[01:22] <Fanskapet> that's what the logfile gives me
[01:22] <hondje> resierfs offhand
[01:22] <hondje> cthulfuego: I'd hope so, they're all nuts
[01:22] <Howitzer> Ubuntu does aswell(bounties?)
[01:22] <bob2> Fanskapet: and you haven't changed any of the symlinks or anything?
[01:22] <Howitzer> YES
[01:22] <Howitzer> finally
[01:22] <Howitzer> i compiled the GBA Emulator \ o /
[01:22] <Fanskapet> bob2, nah.. followed the guide on ubuntuforums downloading the sourcetree from their cvs
[01:22] <hondje> oh neat, nautilus desn't show backup files
[01:22] <CM> woohoo at last got that damn floppy open
[01:22] <bob2> yay forums
[01:22] <bob2> Fanskapet: er
[01:23] <hondje> Howitzer: what's a GBA emulator?
[01:23] <bob2> Fanskapet: compiling wine on amd64 is kinda pointless
[01:23] <Fanskapet> it is?
[01:23] <bob2> Fanskapet: unless you actually have amd64 windows programs
[01:23] <bob2> and I don't even think wine supports that
[01:23] <Fanskapet> aha so it's unable to run 32bit apps?
[01:23] <Howitzer> an emulator that you can play GameBoy Advance games on
[01:23] <Fanskapet> ah well then i'l just throw it away :)
[01:23] <Howitzer> btw, i this normal while compiling?
[01:23] <Howitzer> if g++ -DPACKAGE_NAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_TARNAME=\"\" -DPACKAGE_VERSION=\"\" -DPACKAGE_STRING=\"\" -DPACKAGE_BUGREPORT=\"\" -DPACKAGE=\"VisualBoyAdvance\" -DVERSION=\"1.7.2\" -DHAVE_LIBZ=1 -DHAVE_LIBPNG=1 -DHAVE_LIBPTHREAD=1 -DSTDC_HEADERS=1 -DHAVE_SYS_TYPES_H=1 -DHAVE_SYS_STAT_H=1 -DHAVE_STDLIB_H=1 -DHAVE_STRING_H=1 -DHAVE_MEMORY_H=1
[01:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> aghh my eyes spam
[01:24] <bob2> Howitzer: yes
[01:24] <Howitzer> sorry for spam :(
[01:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> lol
[01:24] <bob2> twilight: please turn that off
[01:24] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ^_^ it's ok
[01:24] <Howitzer> ehh
[01:24] <hondje> Howitzer: How do you plug the games in?
[01:24] <bob2> god g++ is slow
[01:24] <bob2> I want to cry
[01:24] <hondje> Howitzer: Or more likely, how do you dump the games to your hdd?
[01:24] <Howitzer> VisualBoyAdvance ./[ROMnaam]
[01:24] <Howitzer> ehh
[01:24] <Howitzer> well
[01:24] <hondje> ah, say no more
[01:25] <hondje> others do it, etc
[01:25] <Howitzer> you can do it illegally(way easier)or legal way
[01:25] <hondje> what's the legal way?
[01:25] <Howitzer> legal way:
[01:25] <Howitzer> buy the cartridge, buy a flash drive
[01:25] <hondje> oh, the games are on flash cards?
[01:25] <bob2> note that the legal way is probably still illegal in the US
[01:25] <hondje> I thought they were on something else
[01:25] <Howitzer> load the content of the cartridge into your pc
[01:25] <Howitzer> but
[01:26] <hondje> bob2: probably...I'm more interested in the morally-okay-to-hondje, which excludes the DMCA when it meets my opinion of fair use
[01:26] <Howitzer> it doesn't work in linux since the programs for transferring it are windows only
[01:26] <Howitzer> and actually
[01:26] <hondje> oh, you can't just dump the contents?
[01:26] <Howitzer> it should be fully legal
[01:26] <hondje> then it is most certainly illegal, stupid dmca
[01:26] <bob2> hondje: hah, amen
[01:26] <Howitzer> because you bought the cartridge
[01:27] <hondje> If you have to decode something, Howitzer, the dmca makes it illegal...which doesn't mean wrong :)
[01:27] <Howitzer> and since you can do anything you would like to
[01:27] <Howitzer> it isn't decoding
[01:27] <Howitzer> the cartridge contains 1 file:
[01:27] <Howitzer> -game-.gba
[01:27] <hondje> hrm, I'll have to look into that, Howitzer .... my brother has a bunch of games that he doesn't use anymore
[01:27] <Howitzer> and you open it like you open a .jpg with an image viewer
[01:28] <hondje> bob2: is there a non-paypal way to donate?
[01:28] <Howitzer> Woohoo
[01:28] <Howitzer> it works
[01:28] <Howitzer> now to just get a .gba :(
[01:29] <hondje> I have a magical flash card reader that works in all distros w/ usb :)
[01:29] <Howitzer> Oo
[01:29] <bob2> hondje: someone's working on it, but I haven't heard anything about it in a while
[01:29] <hondje> bob2: okay, I'll just monitor that or something
[01:30] <inva|id> how do I flush my dns cache
[01:30] <hondje> especially if I talk the boss man into it, like I did w/ mozilla
[01:30] <lpih> Heh, i have 2 GFX cards in my comp, a GF4TI and voodoo1.
[01:30] <lpih> Install defaulted Voodoo1 as my xorg card ;)
[01:30] <hondje> lpih: hehehe
[01:30] <Howitzer> oh god no
[01:30] <Howitzer> OH GOD NO
[01:31] <hondje> ubuntu defaulted to my onboard instead of my nvidia card
[01:31] <hondje> maybe I should file a bug on that....
[01:31] <lpih> + my X is freezing becouse i have Nvidia display card and newer kernel than 2.6.7
[01:31] <Howitzer> that guy made his website 'optimized for IE' :'(
[01:31] <lpih> It's a known problem :S
[01:31] <lpih> had same when on gentoo :)
[01:31] <hondje> lpih: really? I've never had a problem, what drivers you using?
[01:31] <thoreauputic> xirtam: I'm assuming you don't want the fluxbox deb...
[01:31] <lpih> hondje: apt-get install nvidia-glx ;)
[01:31] <lpih> hondje: Me and my friend had EXACTLY the same problem, and same solution
[01:31] <CM> well i am ready to install ubuntu 5.04 so wish me luck people :P
[01:32] <hondje> lpih: ah, and X dies on you? Not using compositing voodoo?
[01:32] <lpih> hondje: I'm using the GF4 now.
[01:32] <hondje> lpih: interesting, what's the solution? Is it apg related?
[01:32] <lpih> It doesn't die, it just .. Somehow loses "focus"
[01:32] <lpih> you can move cursor, XMMS continues playing etc.
[01:32] <lpih> but you cant do anything, even change VM