[03:55] <usser> iamtechno, should have it
[03:55] <tjz> nick, night
[03:56] <lenswipe> can someone help me figure out a file permission mask
[03:56] <chemikalz> thanks kb
[03:56] <lenswipe> i have a netlogon share that i want to be writable to only those people in @admin
[03:56] <lenswipe> and read only to everyone else
[03:57] <Bold`> Hello.. A quick question, whats the difference between Ubuntu, and Xubuntu ? I read that Kubuntu is basicly Ubuntu w/ KDE.. but couldnt find a quick answer to identify the difference
[03:57] <firefly2442> Bold`: xubuntu uses xfce ( a different window manager)
[03:58] <Bold`> firefly2442, what is the window manager with ubuntu ?
[03:58] <lstarnes> firefly2442, Bold`: xfce is a different desktop environment, now just a window manager.  Regular ubuntu uses gnome
[03:58] <lstarnes> *not just
[03:58] <Bold`> oh
[03:58] <chemikalz> you have to pay for ssh
[03:58] <firefly2442> Bold`: lstarnes: ahh thanks for the clarification, sorry
[03:58] <boingba> hello
[03:58] <Bold`> Ubuntu= Gnome, Kubunto= KDE, Xubunto= XFCE... and rest are all the same.. right ?
[03:59] <boingba> does anyone know about gvfs?
[03:59] <iam_techno> usser: sorry my net connection is really bad here
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> !gvfs
[03:59] <riwe> test
[03:59] <rdw200169> boingba, are you having a problem or something?  gvfs is how gnome integrates multiple file system types into Nautilus, the file manager
[03:59] <Decepticon> test failed!
[03:59] <nomasteryoda> wow
[03:59] <boingba> rdw200169, can i kill it?
[04:00] <Bold`> thank you firefly2442 & lstarnes .. that was fine :)
[04:00] <rdw200169> boingba, why do you want to?
[04:00] <rdw200169> boingba, are you having mounting problems or something?
[04:00] <rdw200169> boingba, if you are, there is a better way to resolve it
[04:00] <DanaG> Anyone know what would make CUPS give "403 forbidden" on the web interface?
[04:00] <boingba> rdw200169, im trying to make ubuntu lean and mean
[04:00] <DanaG> http://localhost:631
[04:00] <DanaG> go to "admin"
[04:01] <boingba> rdw200169, i am trimming processes which i do not need.
[04:01] <losher> Bold`: unless your machine is very small/slow, there's probably no reason to favor xubuntu
[04:01] <boingba> rdw200169, i am trimming processes which i do not need so i could get the best performance
[04:01] <rdw200169> boingba, honestly, i wouldn't do that.  its just way to useful for me.  if you kill gvfs, you lose all the functionality of nautilus
[04:01] <rdw200169> boingba, if that is even possible
[04:01] <riwe> hay friend ...
[04:01] <chetnick> does ubuntu work good with other window managers?
[04:01] <lstarnes> chetnick: yes
[04:01] <riwe> iam new be ... ubuntu ...
[04:01] <tjz> anyone know why my keyboard is mismatch when i vnc to my remote ubuntu desktop?
[04:01] <boingba> rdw200169, ohhhh, so like the automount thing that nautilus does?
[04:01] <riwe> ican instal ... xampp ...
[04:02] <rdw200169> boingba, if you're trying to improve performance, it would be better to research what kind of tweaks you can perform in gconf, or use a different gui type thing, like xfce
[04:02] <rdw200169> boingba, yes.
[04:02] <corigo> What is the name of the non 3g NTFS driver that uses the actual MS ntfs.sys file?
[04:02] <chetnick> lstarnes: no need to change anything, just install other window manager and change session?
[04:02] <Bold`> losher, well.. the machine is fine.. 2.33 Due CPU, 4 GB RAM w/ 2 HDD 250 G each, blah blah... etc
[04:02] <lstarnes> chetnick: yes
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> !apache |riwe
[04:02] <DanaG> CUPS admin used to work fine for me... now it's broken!
[04:02] <boingba> rdw200169, hmmm i dont need any of that. i am using openbox
[04:02] <chetnick> lstarnes: thanks.
[04:02] <losher> Bold`: I'd go with regular Ubuntu
[04:02] <nomasteryoda> riwe, use that instead
[04:02] <boingba> rdw200169, i literally see a black screen on startup :)
[04:02] <losher> Bold`: I'd go with regular Ubuntu in that case...
[04:02] <DanaG> Please, somebody check if your cups gives a 403.
[04:03] <boingba> rdw200169, any cluse how i can prevent gvfs from loading?
[04:03] <DanaG> http://localhost:631/admin
[04:03] <boingba> *clues
[04:03] <Bold`> losher, may I ask why not Kubuntu ? :) do you prefere Gnome ??
[04:03] <jigp> hello goodmorning. ubuntu 9.04 hanged..so i had to press 5 seconds the power so that it will turn off..what happen?why hanged?fresh install of ubuntu 9.04...should i go to ubuntu 10.04?which is more stable?
[04:03] <nomasteryoda> boingba, then using server version would be slim enough...
[04:03] <gdfs> why does the same programm run faster in Debian than Ubuntu?
[04:04] <gex> I use widget layer (compiz) with screenlet.py, when I start a gnome session, the widget layer is on. Is there a way to set the widget to off when a gnome session is started?
[04:04] <boingba> gdfs what program?
[04:04] <jigp> when i switch from gnoe to kde no hang now
[04:04] <losher> Bold`: Actually I personally don't use either, but I think gnome has more users, & so better support...
[04:04] <lstarnes> losher: for a long time (and possibly now) kde had more users
[04:04] <boingba> nomasteryoda, thats too slim.. i still need x to run 3d games...
[04:05] <Bold`> losher, thanks for clarifying.. ! :)
[04:05] <losher> lstartnes: I thought kde was 'going away'....
[04:05] <lstarnes> losher: what do you mean by that?
[04:05] <nomasteryoda> boingba, then add what you need .. say fluxbox or openbox ... x would install as dependency
[04:05] <DanaG> Does NOBODY have the time to check CUPS?
[04:05] <DanaG> http://localhost:631/admin
[04:05] <sebumd> hey all...i'm new to ubuntu (i've messed with linux in the past) and am having troubles enabling visual effects and compiz, I know this probably gets annoying,  but could anyone spare 5 min and help me?  I've searched on the forums a ton!
[04:06] <nomasteryoda> boingba, and i would bet gvfs would not be there... with fluxbox
[04:06] <rdw200169> DanaG, you want us to look at your CUPS or something?
[04:06] <boingba> nomasteryoda: hmmmmm... interesting....
[04:06] <DanaG> No, check your own, so I can see if it's just me.
[04:06] <Drknezz> Hi!, how can i install kde4 into jaunty?
[04:06] <DanaG> I'm getting 403.
[04:06] <rdw200169> nomasteryoda, boingba gvfs is gnome-specific
[04:06] <Drknezz> !kde > Drknezz
[04:06] <cory8092> sebumd: !compiz
[04:06] <cory8092> !compiz
[04:06] <sebumd> !compiz
[04:06] <nomasteryoda> rdw200169, right... if he started with just server version, then added fluxbox... gnome would not be on the box
[04:07] <boingba> nomasteryoda, i could remove gnome... but then i would not have gdm
[04:07] <abalone> I lost the password that went with this nick, any idea what to do?
[04:07] <lstarnes> abalone: join #freenode and ask about it there
[04:07] <abalone> ok
[04:07] <nomasteryoda> right... don't really need gdm .. .you can startx with xinit scripts
[04:07] <boingba> nomasteryoda, i noticed that killing gdm as a process - turns my screen bloacker
[04:07] <nomasteryoda> lol
[04:07] <boingba> *blacker
[04:08] <boingba> hehehe
[04:08] <nomasteryoda> that too
[04:08] <boingba> nomasteryoda, thanks for the info. that is interesting
[04:08] <losher> lstartnes: there were licensing issues with older versions of Qt that made it less popular with people who cared about such things. I think that's improved now though. ref the kde page on wilkipedia
[04:08] <boingba> nomasteryoda, can i pm u about this>?
[04:09] <nomasteryoda> boingba, sure
[04:09] <boingba> i totally want to do away with gnome- and kde
[04:09] <soreau> DanaG: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/servers/120309-cups-403-forbidden-error.html ?
[04:09] <rick_gator> I need some help with reporting a problem with ubuntu 9.04 2-6.28-11-generic.  The system hangs so I'm not able to use ubuntu-bug.  I cannot ssh to the desktop when the console is hung.  The system work fine with ubuntu 9.04 2.6.24-21-generic.
[04:09] <askvictor1> does enabling visual effects (i.e. compiz) slow down or speed up the system? i.e. if visual effects are switched off, does any window rendering get done via the GPU?
[04:09] <lstarnes> losher: I don't think those licensing issues are as much of a problem now.  Qt has been available under the GPL for a long time, but commercial licenses were avilable for use in proprietary programs.  I think Qt might be available under the LGPL now
[04:09] <losher> boingba: you can, but you'll need to be pretty nifty with the cli
[04:10] <boingba> losher, i am medium beginner - if there is such a word
[04:10] <losher> lstartnes: Agreed. Any authoritative sources for the number of gnome vs kde users?
[04:11] <losher> boingba: :-). So what wm are you planning to run?
[04:11] <gdfs> the most stable version of Ubuntu is 8.04.2
[04:11] <lstarnes> losher: I;m not sure
[04:11] <lstarnes> *I'm
[04:11] <soreau> DanaG: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=736489
[04:11] <losher> lstartnes: no matter. It may be that no-one really knows...
[04:11] <boingba> losher nomasteryoda suggests xdm
[04:12] <lstarnes> losher: it would be hard to measure
[04:12] <dsabecky> gdfs: Jaunty is out. 9.04 is the most current stable build.
[04:12] <noath> #osx86scene
[04:12] <boingba> losher im going to install xdm then purge gnome-desktop
[04:12] <losher> lstartnes: as I understand it, we aren't even sure how may linux users are out there...
[04:12] <DanaG> what should the permissions within /etc/cups be?
[04:12] <DanaG> for me, they're mostly root:root.
[04:12] <boingba> losher, we are increasing
[04:14] <ape718> can anyone give me any hints as to why my xfs filesystem won't grow, I'm using gparted. I looked up xfs and found out it is limited to 16tb under 32bit systems, so I reinstalled the ubuntu server from 8 32bit to 9 64bit. so I know it's not because of my file limitation
[04:16] <losher> boingba: fwiw, I mv /usr/bin/nautilus to nautilus.bak and same with /usr/sbin/gdm. Then I startx and run fvwm. No 'desktop' as such, just the wm. For someone who isn't an old fart like me, I'd say you're probably better off with the standard gnome or kde environment, so people can support you if you run into problems.
[04:17] <gdfs> for older hardware,8.04.2 is much moe suitable
[04:17] <scribawf> How can I recover my Win emtity on an update/reinstall of Grub?
[04:17] <boingba> losher, thanks just saw ur msg, i am currently running openbox
[04:17] <tardy> Lately my system has been freezing randomly and I am not sure how to go about debugging what causes it, any suggestions?
[04:17] <boingba> losher but i actually prefer icewm
[04:18] <Titan8990> scribawf, just needs the windows lines in menu.lst
[04:18] <scribawf> Titan890; ty ok will do just that
[04:18] <losher> boingba: well, no reason not to go with either of them, except that support will be a bit harder to come by
[04:18] <JECHO> scribawf i have those lines for the menu.list file if you want them
[04:19] <scribawf> Jeco; yes that certainly would be helpful
[04:20] <boingba> losher its ok, i have triple boot and i am now in the mood for further experimentation
[04:20] <losher> boingba: good for you!
[04:20] <boingba> losher it would be nice to just startx and proceed with a terminal
[04:21] <ape718> can anyone give me any hints as to why my xfs filesystem won't grow, I'm using gparted. I looked up xfs and found out it is limited to 16tb under 32bit systems, so I reinstalled the ubuntu server from 8 32bit to 9 64bit. so I know it's not because of my file limitation
[04:21] <f31n> does anyone know how to configure awstats to read the logs from an iis server?
[04:21] <losher> boingba: I know what you mean. When I look at all the stuff gnome runs in the background, it seems really heavyweight for what you get
[04:22] <f31n> i'm tracing now on the web tryin' much ... but hmpf no way...
[04:23] <boingba> losher, i hate to say this, and i know its comparing apples to oranges - but windows xp is pretty responsive. dont want to start a flamewar here. just my experience
[04:23] <brunotorres> Howdy people. I'm doing a fresh install of ubuntu. I was a linux hard user a long time ago, but have never used it agin since. I have a doubt: what's the best file system to use nowadays?
[04:24] <brunotorres> it's my personal computer, a laptop, 320gb hd 5400 rpm, core 2 duo, 4 gb, etc
[04:24] <ptc> since i upgraded to Jaunty, i am having SLOW VIDEO (youtube, mplayer, everything...) When I watch the video at its normal size, it's faster. If I full-screen it, it's slow.  I just like a clean machine
[04:26] <brunotorres> f31n what about xfs, jfs and ext4?
[04:26] <Bob_Dole> isn't ext4 still having bugs?
[04:26] <dsabecky> Bob_Dole Yes.
[04:27] <losher> boingba: 9.04 did feel a bit sluggish to me compared to 8.04 I have to say
[04:27] <dsabecky> I'm waiting for ZFS to be supported.
[04:27] <mzz> brunotorres: ext3 is solid and usually performs acceptably. ext4 is still very new, so you may not want to trust your /home to it just yet. I have no experience with xfs and jfs.
[04:27] <Newbuntu> Will a grep serach entiredirectorys including sub directorys?
[04:27] <mzz> Newbuntu: if you pass it -r it will
[04:27] <Newbuntu> mzz ty
[04:28] <dev29aug> hii
[04:28] <cast|lir> dsabecky: supported in what?
[04:28] <boingba> losher, are you using any desktop environment?
[04:28] <MrPockets> hey fellas. If i want to change the file that Evolution calls when it plays a sound on new messages
[04:28] <brunotorres> thanks mzz and f31n
[04:28] <mzz> brunotorres: so if you're installing 9.04 right now one option would be using ext3 for /home and ext4 for everything else, then converting /home to ext4 at some point in the future (this can be done in-place)
[04:28] <MrPockets> what directory would I start looking in?
[04:28] <cast|lir> XFS is a pretty good filesystem, :)
[04:28] <dsabecky> cast|lir In the Ubuntu install. Doing it by hand is beyond too much work.
[04:28] <Titan8990> MrPockets, lol
[04:28] <Bold`> why ubuntu 8.x is supported till 2011 while 9.x is only till 2010 ?
[04:29] <dsabecky> Bold`: LTS
[04:29] <mzz> !lts | Bold`
[04:29] <ptc> cast|lir: http://pastie.org/482375
[04:29] <boingba> losher im going to do nomasteryoda's instructions on how to start ubuntu without gdm - direct to a window manager
[04:29] <MrPockets> Titan8990, 'heh right?
[04:29] <ptc> cast|lir: xv seems to be working fine
[04:29] <Newbuntu> mzz so if i want to search from my current dir i would "grep x -r" x beening the quiery
[04:29] <losher> boingba: no desktop, just fvwm. I do most of my stuff in a terminal window (old fashioned)...
[04:29] <cast|lir> dsabecky: unlikely ZFS will go into Linux, btrfs is where efforts are being directed as i gather
[04:29] <Newbuntu> being*
[04:29] <ptc> coz_: no, i didn't. should i?
[04:30] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does anyone know why its not possible to mount an SMB filesystem?
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> fvwm is even lighter...
[04:30] <Bold`> ubottu, kernel and apps (after update) are the same ?
[04:30] <nomasteryoda> and good and cool
[04:30] <boingba> losher, my kind of man
[04:30] <mzz> Newbuntu: you have to include "." after the query.
[04:30] <Bold`> I am confused.. not sure what to install
[04:30] <coz_> ptc,  yes   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras and then when that is done let me know when you open mplayer and right click on the main window go to preferences
[04:30] <losher> boingba: I'm just old...
[04:30] <dsabecky> cast|lir: I don't see why it won't. Oracle bought Sun, and since Orable has a Linux based OS, they will more than likely port it.
[04:30] <mzz> Newbuntu: "grep -r blah .". Without the "." it will just sit there waiting for input on stdin.
[04:30] <boingba> losher, im 27 if its any consolation
[04:30] <boingba> :)
[04:30] <ptc> coz_: fwiw, i'm on Kubuntu but trying to switch to Ubuntu
[04:30] <Bold`> mzz, kernel and apps (after update) are the same ?
[04:31] <Newbuntu> mzz ok
[04:31] <ptc> coz_: also, kubuntu-restricted-extras is installed
[04:31] <mzz> Bold`: I don't understand the question.
[04:31] <nomasteryoda> ptc, you can also install smplayer and get a good frontend to mplayer
[04:31] <coz_> ptc,  oh ok
[04:31] <ptc> nomasteryoda: any better than gmplayer?
[04:31] <losher> boingba: Also, I don't like giving up screen real estate to panels. Even on 22 inch displays...
[04:31] <ptc> while this is installing, i have another question...
[04:31] <Bold`> mzz, 8.x and 9.x after getting the updates are the same then ? I am asking because I am confused and dont know what to install
[04:31] <boingba> losher, me too! i dont have one as of the momeny
[04:32] <boingba> *moment
[04:32] <nomasteryoda> imho
[04:32] <coz_> ptc,  then open mplayer    right click on main window go to preferences
[04:32] <mzz> Bold`: err, no
[04:32] <losher> boingba: They're getting cheaper, but even so, permanently losing the top & bottom of my screen to panels annoys me...
[04:32] <ptc> i have Guifications enabled in pidgin (i'm using it right now). however, this annoying OSD display appears from "indicator-applet" every time a message comes in
[04:33] <ptc> i uninstalled "indicator-applet" yet it's still appearing
[04:33] <mzz> Bold`: the versions of various packages in 8.04 is considerably older. They're only updated to fix security issues, I think.
[04:33] <ptc> any ideas how to permanently disable it?
[04:33] <un_dave> can someone suggest a torrent client, other than azureus, which will support ssl, and scheduling torrents by group, or label etc. ?
[04:33] <ptc> coz_: i'm in Preferences
[04:33] <cast|lir> dsabecky: well, unless ZFS is relicenced inder the GPLv2 it's unlikely :) you're right, oracle might. or oracle might try to leverage opensolaris to it's advantage - which may mean keeping it under the CDDL
[04:34] <ptc> coz_: it's using xv
[04:34] <Bold`> ok thanks guys
[04:34] <Bold`> cheers
[04:34] <coz_> ptc,  ok Video tab  make sure  xv X11/Xv  is chosen
[04:34] <coz_> ptc,  then move over to the Codecs & demuxer tab
[04:34] <losher> Bold`: For a first timer, I think 8.04 is a good choice
[04:34] <ptc> ptc: it is. the problem is not just with mplayer. it's with any videl
[04:34] <boingba> losher, the only real use i have of panels is the date and time. other than that nothing
[04:34] <ptc> video*
[04:34] <ptc> coz_: *
[04:35] <craigbass1976> Anyone know why I'd be able to get on a wireless network, but wifi-radar isn't working?  There was a hiccup during the ndiswrapper setup, but I'm not sure how to make this work
[04:35] <ptc> coz_: even playing youtube in flash
[04:35] <coz_> ptc,   video codec family =  FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family   audio codec family = MPEG layer-2, layer-3
[04:35] <Lambchop> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?e¡®1e¡®¡ãe¡®¡¤e¡®3e¡®?e¡®3e¡®oe¡®?e¡®¡¤e¡®?e¡®?e¡¯€e¡®o" 0 0 0
[04:35] <losher> boingba: I just open an xclock for that.
[04:35] <coz_> ptc,  not sure about that with kde  I am on gnome and am having no issues with flash at the moment sorry :)
[04:36] <ptc> coz_: i'm in gnome... no kde involved here
[04:37] <coz_> ptc,  ah ok
[04:37] <ptc> with mplayer it's only slow when maximized
[04:37] <coz_> ptc,   which video card?
[04:37] <ptc> but youtube and any other video players are all slow
[04:37] <ptc> coz_: it's not a great video card, but it was working fine before. no idea what brand it is even
[04:37] <ptc> generic intel i think
[04:38] <coz_> ptc,  in terminal    lspci | grep -i vga
[04:38] <phillipsm> anybody actually had success with nvidia and 9.04?
[04:38] <un_dave> phillipsm, i have
[04:38] <coz_> phillipsm,  yes I use nvidia here
[04:38] <phillipsm> i do too
[04:38] <phillipsm> i was just wondering cuz all i saw was bad stuff in the forums
[04:38] <ape718> anyone have experience with xfs on ubuntu? i'm trying increase the size of my xfs partition. I've already installed the harddrives and it's shown as unpartitioned space
[04:38] <phillipsm> but it was pretty simple
[04:38] <ptc>  Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[04:38] <coz_> phillipsm,  no bad stuff here :)
[04:39] <phillipsm> haha
[04:39] <phillipsm> nice
[04:39] <un_dave> phillipsm, i icouldnt get my dual monitors to work with the latest driver release. i had to use 173.
[04:39] <cast|lir> w 2
[04:39] <coz_> un_dave,  which video card?
[04:39] <un_dave> phillipsm, it was initially frustrating, but ok in the end.
[04:39] <un_dave> coz_, 7300gs i think.
[04:39] <coz_> un_dave,   in terminal    lspci | grep -i vga
[04:39] <fortunev_> I am on a HP DV7. ubuntu 9. Sound use to work but now is dead. Tried about a dozen fixes. None worked. The last two thins were install pulseaudio, then added the snd-hda-intel mode= ... to the alsa-base.conf. How do I go about getting my sound back.
[04:39] <un_dave> coz_, i think the issue may have been that i actually have 2 of them.
[04:40] <coz_> un_dave,   oh
[04:40] <coz_> un_dave,  on the same system?
[04:40] <un_dave> coz_, i'm not at my pc now. but it's all working now anyway. yep, two in the same system
[04:40] <coz_> un_dave,  ok I have no experience with dual cards here
[04:41] <phillipsm> yeah me neither
[04:41] <ptc> anyone know how to get rid of "indicator applet"? i uninstalled but its still appearing
[04:41] <un_dave> coz_, i had planned to use 3 or 4 monitors, but after realising how abismal linux support is for multi monitors, i've ended up just with two
[04:41] <phillipsm> ptc, i might if i actually knew what you meant by "indicator applet"...
[04:41] <Drakeson> how can I find the list of F-key options at the beginning of the boot from the official ubuntu live cd (jaunty)? I am trying to help someone else over the internet, and I cannot reboot just for that.
[04:42] <coz_> ptc,  do you mean the new notifications?
[04:42] <phillipsm> Drakeson....google. it man
[04:42] <ptc> coz_: ya... hella annoying when i have guifications running in tandem :)
[04:42] <coz_> ptc,  mm let me check
[04:43] <ptc> hah... nevermind. it reinstalled itself as a dependency i think
[04:43] <coz_> ptc,   this might do it but no guarantee  and  you have to restart ehe system  after this   sudo mv /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service.disabled
[04:43] <MrPockets> :-(
[04:44] <coz_> ptc,  here is a how to    http://www.tipstrs.com/tip/9302/Disable-notifications-in-Ubuntu-Jaunty
[04:44] <ptc> awesome
[04:44] <ptc> thanks coz! you are the man
[04:44] <ptc> i'll bbiab (restart)
[04:44] <coz_> ptc,  ok let me know    ....oy
[04:45] <Drakeson> phillipsm: thanks for the really helpful tip, man. it turns out there are too many entries about ubuntu live cd
[04:46] <GazFenix> How do I install ubuntu on a computer with no cd drive, and has nothing on it at the time.
[04:46] <GazFenix> can I make a unetbootin usb on this computer and boot it on that one?
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> GazFenix: thats what i've done many times.. assuming the other pc will boot a usb device
[04:46] <GazFenix> yes it will
[04:46] <IndyGunFreak> GazFenix: are you on a linux box right now, or windows?
[04:46] <GazFenix> well it has before.
[04:46] <GazFenix> linux
[04:46] <GazFenix> ubuntu interpid
[04:46] <FloodBot2> GazFenix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:47] <IndyGunFreak> GazFenix: ok, ymmv, but for some reason, the current linux version of unetbootin, constantly results in a boot error, the windows version works fine
[04:47] <IndyGunFreak> i used the exact same ISO, under unetbootin in Windows, and it setup perfectly
[04:48] <GazFenix> hmm
[04:48] <jamie> jamiejack
[04:48] <GazFenix> I wondered why it wasn't working..
[04:48] <jamie> granny2008
[04:48] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 9.04] How can I deinstall all Games and associated overhead in order to gain free space on my hard disk?
[04:48] <Guest91153> jamie
[04:48] <IndyGunFreak> bullgard4: its a games package in synapgic, something like games-gnome.. or something like that
[04:49] <IndyGunFreak> bullgard4: or you could go through and remove them 1x1
[04:49] <tvl> raylu: my internet is broken, how to fix ?? ty
[04:49] <GazFenix> can I use the windows unetbootin under wine?
[04:49] <ptc> with KDE (Konqueror, actually) there's a feature to do a google search just by first doing Alt+F2 (run command) then typing "gg:<whatever you want to search>" -- does gnome have anything like that?
[04:49] <MrPockets> man
[04:49] <IndyGunFreak> GazFenix: hmm.. i would say that is highly unlikely
[04:49] <MrPockets> 9.04 doesn't take orders for crap
[04:49] <coz_> bullgard4,  sudo apt-get remove gnome-game  gnome-games-data
[04:49] <MrPockets> change the sounds, and its' all, NO! and keeps playing defaults
[04:49] <GazFenix> ah
[04:49] <IndyGunFreak> GazFenix: i don't believe wine can control hardware (thus why you can't use itunes w/ ipods, etc..)
[04:49] <coz_> bullgard4,  sorry  sudo apt-get remove  gnome-games   gnome-games-data
[04:50] <GazFenix> oh yeah
[04:50] <coz_> bullgard4,  or open synaptic package manager  and hit search and type in  gnome-games
[04:50] <GazFenix> I'll use the other computer then
[04:50] <coz_> bullgard4,  then right click each pacakge and click Remove completely
[04:50] <GazFenix> it runs veesta
[04:51] <mzz> ptc: I think the deskbar applet can do something like that
[04:51] <IndyGunFreak> GazFenix: thats what i would do.. cuz when i use the windows version... it works perfectly.. w/ 8.04, unetbootin worked fine under linux.. but w/ 8.10, and 9.04.. its never worked right.. ive tried the .deb file, and the .bin file to install.. just doesn't work for me
[04:51] <bullgard4> IndyGunFreak, coz_ : Thank you for your help.
[04:51] <GazFenix> when I installed #! before on the same computer I used unetbootin under 8.10
[04:52] <GazFenix> but it's not working to great now..
[04:52] <jigp> hello guys how to adjust the memory?it seems that my pc iss kinda lag when i type in terminal...
[04:52] <jigp> i have 1gb ram though
[04:52] <jigp> i just open firefox and terminal (with irssi
[04:52] <GazFenix> I haven't tried it yet though, i just instaled unetbootin with the .deb
[04:52] <cast|lir> jigp: adjust means?
[04:52] <jigp> whew when i type at the terninal its so laggg
[04:52] <GazFenix> before I just did the normal with no install.
[04:53] <jigp> cast|lir : adjust memory to high priority?
[04:53] <fortunev_> I am having sound problems on my HP DV7 using Ubuntu 9. Sound use to work, but now is broke. How can I get my sound back.
[04:53] <coreyman> what is a good wireless network manager for ubuntu
[04:53] <jigp> when i type like for example: hello..  am done typing with "hello" but t he msg is delayed to appear
[04:53] <GazFenix> does unetbootin reformat the usb itself, or should I do that beforehand?
[04:54] <mzz> jigp: is ssh involved? Getting that for a local terminal is kinda weird
[04:54] <jigp> yes mzz : but no problem in firefox when i surf
[04:54] <jigp> mzz : ah so its the ssh then
[04:55] <mzz> jigp: that's normal: browsing is much less demanding on latency than ssh is
[04:55] <jigp> mzz : but when i use windows and putty then irssi no problem no lag
[04:55] <Zombie_Gaz> Using the new screen (with the fancy profiles). Anyone have any idea how to remove the "0*$ shell" from the menu?
[04:55] <jigp> mzz : so how to get rid of this?
[04:55] <Zombie_Gaz> (bottom left)
[04:55] <mzz> jigp: that's weird again. How far away (in network terms) is the host you're sshd into?
[04:55] <jigp> mzz : im sshing in america and im in asia
[04:56] <mzz> jigp: does "ping" to that host, or from that host back to the system you're using, show unusually high latency?
[04:56] <jigp> mzz : but then again there is no laggg in windows when i use putty then ssh
[04:56] <jigp> mzz : but here in ubuntu terminal when i type "hello" delayed reply.
[04:57] <jigp> mzz : no problem with ping
[04:57] <mzz> jigp: strange. Tried a different term emulator? Anything unusual about your ssh configuration?
[04:57] <bullgard4> What does 'ept' stand for in /usr/share/doc/libept0?
[04:58] <psychic> can someone help me with my background settings? for some reason all of the images have no color
[04:58] <Zombie_Gaz> Anyone have any idea how to remove the "0*$ shell" from the bottom left of my screen profile?
[04:59] <cast|lir> Zombie_Gaz: what does the .screenrc line look like?
[04:59] <bullgard4> psychic: Switch to another theme. May be it is advisable later to switch back to your old theme.
[04:59] <jigp> mzz : i have to wait for 3 seconds if i remove what ive type like "hello"
[05:00] <GazFenix> .j #crunchbang
[05:00] <GazFenix> ah crap
[05:00] <jigp> mzz : i dont have ssh configuration.its a fresh install ubuntu 9.04.using kde
[05:00] <psychic> bullgard4 its all the same
[05:00] <mzz> jigp: I'd try to narrow it down to ubuntu's network setup, ssh or the terminal emulator somehow.
[05:00] <psychic> bullgard4 does fluxbox allow color
[05:00] <mzz> jigp: so perhaps try the same thing outside of X and/or try with a different term emulator.
[05:01] <Zombie_Gaz> cast|lir Er... empty.
[05:01] <bullgard4> psychic: I cannot help you as you provided not enough information.
[05:01] <AgentHeX> i'm testing Jaunty on my laptop right now, and I'd like to change the position of the libnotify dialog.  is there a way to do this?
[05:01] <mzz> jigp: and perhaps compare latencies reported by ping
[05:01] <psychic> ok
[05:01] <Roasted> In Ubuntu, if I right click a hard drive and go to properties, it says 170.3 GB used. Under system properties, it says the same disk has 181.0 GiB used. 170.3 GB versus 181.0 GiB. I understand GB and GiB is slightly different but which one is more accurate to look at when trying to gauge disk space remaining?
[05:01] <raptor> I am getting a segmentation error with firefox 3 crashes on gmail and other sites
[05:01] <raptor> not flash related, and I have already tried reinstalling firefox
[05:01] <mzz> AgentHeX: iirc there was a switch in gconf-editor for that
[05:01] <jigp> mzz : what are the emulator terminal ?
[05:02] <Zombie_Gaz> cast|lir I have a .screen-profile directory with a profile file in it.
[05:02] <raptor> can someone help me figure out why ubuntu is crashing? I believe it has to do with a new kernel update
[05:02] <mzz> jigp: you're probably using konsole currently if you use kde. Perhaps try xterm?
[05:02] <AgentHeX> mzz: do you know the path to the switch?  this feels a bit like win32's regedit, and i'm totally not familiar.
[05:02] <mzz> AgentHeX: /apps/notification-daemon/popup_location
[05:03] <Hammer89> Does anyone know what changes were made to sound with the new release?
[05:03] <mzz> AgentHeX: I don't know if there's a proper way to change this (there may very well be)
[05:03] <AgentHeX> i'll admit it's a very neat little widget, but i'd just like to reposition it.
[05:04] <AgentHeX> mzz: there is no /apps/notification-daemon, but there is an indicator-applet.  all it has is dummy_value
[05:04] <Hammer89> Sound is no longer working on my laptop after I upgraded... here's a link to a diagnostic program I ran: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=fc42785844d611a75433fc62917e893cfcf6aafe
[05:04] <un_dave> can someone suggest a torrent client, other than azureus, which will support ssl, and scheduling torrents by group, or label etc. ?
[05:04] <AgentHeX> i do have /apps/panel/default_setup/applets/indicator_applet, though
[05:05] <mzz> AgentHeX: then this is probably different on ubuntu and I can't tell you what to change (I'm not currently in ubuntu)
[05:05] <AgentHeX> mzz: alright, i see a "position" key in /apps/panel/default_setup/applets/indicator_applet.  i changed it, but it seems to be in the same position as before.  it was on 4, and i changed to 3.  do changes take effecte immediately?
[05:07] <mzz> AgentHeX: I'm pretty sure that's not at all related
[05:08]  * mzz attempts to check
[05:08] <jigp> mzz : works fine now hehe
[05:08] <jigp> mzz : forr gnome what to use?
[05:08] <mzz> jigp: what did you change?
[05:08] <jigp> mzz : i just type: xterm in the terminal and it works very fast
[05:08] <mzz> AgentHeX: I think that's an applet indicating your keyboard layout
[05:09] <jigp> mzz : i just type in kde terminal "xterm" and it shows xterm a very light terminal
[05:09] <mzz> jigp: so it's konsole? Might want to find some more kde-oriented channel and ask in there if there's some configuration thing you can use to fix this
[05:09] <AgentHeX> the identifier-applet is a little thing in the panel that has a mail icon.  i don't know if it's related, but pidgin's plugin is called libnotify
[05:09] <raptor> can someone help me figure out why firefox is crashing in ubuntu with a segmentation fault I don't believe its a hardware issue
[05:10] <jigp> mzz : ok ..are you using gnome?
[05:10] <jigp> mzz : what terminal you use in gnome?
[05:10] <mzz> jigp: not really. I usually use urxvt as a term emulator.
[05:10] <cast|lir> raptor: when i get seg faults i normally run the offending application in valgrind, though i'm not sure how well that'll work with ff
[05:10] <mzz> jigp: (also known as rxvt-unicode)
[05:10] <jigp> mzz : is that for kde?
[05:10] <mzz> jigp: doesn't depend on either gtk or qt
[05:10] <raptor> that is a good start
[05:11] <raptor> how can I begin to debug the issue?
[05:11] <mzz> raptor: I'd start with gdb here, not valgrind.
[05:11] <devD> i cant install yum in my ubuntu....what to do??
[05:11] <lstarnes> devD: why do you want yum in ubuntu?
[05:11] <raptor> do you guys want a backtrace?
[05:11] <mzz> raptor: (because I'm pessimistic about the number of false positives valgrinding firefox)
[05:11] <mzz> raptor: yes please
[05:11] <jigp> mzz :mzz : what is the command for xterm for copy and paste? ctrl+sfift+c or v is not working
[05:12] <devD> raptor:  i think its necessary to install programs...
[05:12] <mzz> jigp: not sure if there's a keyboard binding, but middlemouse paste should work
[05:12] <lstarnes> devD: ubuntu does not use yum
[05:12] <devD> okk
[05:12] <mzz> devD: what are you actually trying to install?
[05:12] <lstarnes> devD: ubuntu uses apt, dpkg, and synaptic
[05:12] <redspire> Hey, on Jaunty running Gnome, gnome-keyring-daemon doesn't seem to be loading my ssh key automatically ... and other than resort to using login scripts and so forth, I can't seem to get it to launch that fancy gui window asking for my ssh key password on login.  Anybody know this one?  I checked that the gconf key was enabled, and the key is named id_dsa, so it seems like the daemon should pick it up.
[05:12] <devD> lstarnes: thnx frnd..
[05:13] <lstarnes> devD: apt is accessed with apt-get or aptitude
[05:13] <jigp> mzz : its not working.no mouse configuration.no right click
[05:13] <raptor> gdb firefox 2>&1 | tee gdb-firefox.txt
[05:13] <raptor> is that proper syntax?
[05:13] <mzz> jigp: leftclick drag to selec,t middleclick to paste
[05:13] <mzz> raptor: syntax: yes. Useful: not so much.
[05:13] <corigo> Alternate NTFS driver to 3g?
[05:13] <mzz> raptor: sec
[05:14] <devD> lstarnes: thnx ..actually i recently switched from windows...these days i was using fedora...today i installed ubuntu through virtualbox..
[05:14] <mzz> raptor: try "firefox -g" (firefox must not already be running)
[05:14] <joshua6> any one know a web cam monitor that works with indicator-applet
[05:14] <joshua6> ?
[05:15] <mzz> raptor: alternatively: find its pid and "gdb -p thatpid"
[05:15] <mzz> raptor: then say "c" on the (gdb) prompt, then crash firefox, then "bt" on the prompt, pastebin the result
[05:15] <raptor> not to helpful the first option
[05:15] <carlito> ciao
[05:15] <raptor> ** Message: GetValue variable 1 (1)
[05:15] <raptor> ** Message: GetValue variable 2 (2)
[05:15] <raptor> Segmentation fault
[05:15] <mzz> raptor: no? How did it fail?
[05:15] <raptor> I went to gmail
[05:16] <mzz> raptor: I mean how did "firefox -g" fail? Did you not get the gdb prompt?
[05:16] <bullgard4> What does 'ept' stand for in /usr/share/doc/libept0?
[05:16] <raptor> firefox then opened no gdp prompt
[05:16] <mzz> raptor: was it already running? If it was use the second approach to attach
[05:17] <raptor> ps aux | grep firefox and then I killed it all...
[05:17] <mzz> raptor: (this may in fact be easiest anyway, assuming you don't crash on startup)
[05:17] <raptor> let me try the other option as well
[05:17] <jigp> mzz : there is no command for key?what if i dont have mouse? there is no option in /help for copy and paste though
[05:17] <tecky> bullgard4: The library defines a very minimal framework in which many sources of data about Debian packages can be implemented and queried together.
[05:18] <jigp> mzz : xterm is light weight
[05:18] <coreyo> how do you check/recover if one of your software raid disks is reporting "inactive" ?
[05:18] <mzz> jigp: I don't know if xterm has a way to paste from the keyboard. I don't use it.
[05:18] <bullgard4> tecky: Right. And what do the 3 letters 'ept' stand for?
[05:19] <Flannel> bullgard4: PT is probably package toolkit.  extensible? extra-super-duper?
[05:19] <jigp> mzz : googling hehehe.but lunch time here now
[05:19] <tecky> bullgard4: http://packages.debian.org/sid/libept0 educate yourself
[05:19] <jigp> mzz : thanks.gotta lunch now
[05:19] <raptor> when gdp is running my entire computer is freezing
[05:20] <tecky> i'm still pissed that ubuntu took out Flurry screensaver :\
[05:22] <bullgard4> Flannel: I will do some more enquiry based on your answer. --  Thank you.
[05:22] <bullgard4> tecky: :-)
[05:22] <fitter> how i close the  Configuring sun-java6-bin ?
[05:22] <fitter> in terminal
[05:23] <mzz> raptor: what are you running it on? Remember you have to say "c" (+ enter) on the prompt before firefox starts redrawing again.
[05:23] <javyn_> 1
[05:23] <amicrawler2008> my ppc keeps shutting down on me
[05:23] <amicrawler2008> it boots then shuts down
[05:24] <Bob_Dole> I want a PPC system :/
[05:24] <amicrawler2008> after loading the boot loder
[05:24] <raptor> gdb -p 15656 >> gdp-firefox.txt &
[05:24] <raptor> that wouldn't work right?
[05:24] <Flannel> bullgard4: I don't see anything in the docs/sources that say what it says.  It could be whimsical.
[05:24] <raptor> 15656 - pid
[05:24] <dflpridesbabyboy> how do i enable RFMON
[05:24] <dflpridesbabyboy> in ubuntu terminal
[05:25] <dflpridesbabyboy> anyone here know how to enable
[05:25] <dflpridesbabyboy> rfmon
[05:25] <dflpridesbabyboy> RFMON
[05:25] <Flannel> !repeat | dflpridesbabyboy
[05:26] <Bob_Dole> It's like he was trying to sing, more than ask a question. Lyrics repeat the same thing over and over
[05:26] <amicrawler2008> my ppc keeps shutting down on me
[05:26] <amicrawler2008> after loading the boot loder
[05:26] <amicrawler2008> my ppc keeps shutting down on me
[05:26] <luddite> goodbye ubuntu - you have let me down once to many times. now no usb plugnplay and no wifi after moving to 9.04 and my keyboard has lost the up/down key...
[05:27] <dflpridesbabyboy> does anyone know how to enable RFMON
[05:27] <amicrawler2008> what is rfmon
[05:27] <Bob_Dole> Ask questions, don't sing.
[05:27] <iamtechno> !rfmon
[05:27] <dflpridesbabyboy> monitor mode
[05:27] <dflpridesbabyboy> chipset driver unknown
[05:27] <dflpridesbabyboy> i have to enable RFMON
[05:27] <dflpridesbabyboy> to run chipset in monitor mode
[05:27] <dflpridesbabyboy> i dont know how to
[05:27] <Flannel> dflpridesbabyboy: You need to stop using the enter key as punctuation.
[05:28] <Bob_Dole> xD
[05:28] <dflpridesbabyboy> i needed some help
[05:28] <Bob_Dole> It's simple, instead of hitting enter, use the comma.
[05:28] <dflpridesbabyboy> thank you"
[05:28] <Brack10> dflpridesbabyboy: did you iwconfig interface mode monitor first?
[05:29] <dflpridesbabyboy> iwconfig eth1 mode monitor
[05:29] <Brack10> and what does it say
[05:29] <Brack10> nothing?
[05:29] <coreyo> does anyone now the mdadm command required to check/repair/readd disks that have gone inactive?
[05:29] <dflpridesbabyboy> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
[05:29] <dflpridesbabyboy>     SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument."
[05:30] <ed2ef> r u using the ndiswraper?
[05:30] <dflpridesbabyboy> yes iam
[05:31] <ed2ef> ndiswrapper won't go to monitor mode
[05:31] <dflpridesbabyboy> ndiswraper i type in & whole list comes up
[05:31] <ed2ef> u need to use a native driver to do that
[05:32] <dflpridesbabyboy> when i do airmon-ng start eth1
[05:32] <dflpridesbabyboy> Interface	Chipset		Driver
[05:32] <dflpridesbabyboy> eth1		Unknown 		wl (monitor mode enabled) ''
[05:33] <dflpridesbabyboy> any idea anyone?
[05:33] <ed2ef> but he do nothing, right?
[05:33] <dflpridesbabyboy> ed2ef native drivers to do what?
[05:34] <ed2ef> use lspci to find the chipset of the wireless card, and find out if is avaliable a native driver do this card
[05:34] <dflpridesbabyboy> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[05:35] <ed2ef> so, use a brcm driver instead the ndis driver
[05:35] <dflpridesbabyboy> its this one here can you help me suggestion where i can find it & which is b44
[05:35] <dflpridesbabyboy> right?
[05:35] <ed2ef> then try to use airmon again
[05:35] <un_dave> what's the best way of installing vuze/azureus onto a clean 9.04 system? from the vuze homepage? or from the package system?
[05:35] <Brack10> ex2ef: for  my reference could you please expand a lil bit on "use a brcm driver instead"...how one might go about doing that
[05:36] <lstarnes> un_dave: it is usually safer to use the package system
[05:36] <dflpridesbabyboy> ed2ef so i use brcm driver and what is vuze sorry im a newbi
[05:36] <Bob_Dole> vuze is a big, ugly, Torrent client. @.@
[05:37] <un_dave> lstarnes, should i install the latest sun java jre from there aswel?
[05:37] <lstarnes> un_dave: probably
[05:37] <un_dave> Bob_Dole, yeah, i know, but none other can do what i need.
[05:38] <un_dave> Bob_Dole, see my previous messages: can someone suggest a torrent client, other than azureus, which will support ssl, and scheduling torrents by group, or label etc. ?
[05:38] <Computer_Man> Can some one tell me what i'm doing wrong my rotating desktop cube won't rotate
[05:38] <Computer_Man> just switches screens.
[05:39] <dflpridesbabyboy> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[05:39] <dflpridesbabyboy> whats the driver again for this?
[05:39] <Bob_Dole> rythmbox isn't a fan of waiting on networked shares is it?
[05:39] <ed2ef> i was trying to find some documentation to explain better how to switch the driver to bcm43xx, but on ubuntu, at least on the wiki, the default driver is the ndis
[05:40] <ed2ef> i think is bcm43xx
[05:40] <ed2ef> the name of the project
[05:40] <cr0w> ed2ef, i've always found using ndiswrapper was alot simpler than fooling around with the bcm43xx drivers..
[05:40] <dylan_> hi, I am trying to use dolphin in xfce, (xubuntu). It was in xubuntu's add/remove programs list so I installed it. But when I run Dolphin, I get error "could not start process, could not launch klauncher, the name org.kde.klauncher was not provided by any .service files"
[05:40] <ed2ef> ya, and its possible more stable than the native driver
[05:41] <ed2ef> but he want to do the monitor mode, and im pretty sure that i read somewhere that ndis wont go that way
[05:41] <cr0w> ontop of that with my card (broadcom 4312) the drivers haven't ever worked (though i'm just now trying 8.10)
[05:41] <dflpridesbabyboy> i want to fix this problem
[05:41] <mzz> bah, missed raptor. Need to start telling people to include my nick.
[05:41] <dflpridesbabyboy> everything works in airmon-ng
[05:41] <dflpridesbabyboy> when i do airmon-ng start eth1
[05:42] <dflpridesbabyboy> whole list pops up with saying driver WL monitor mode chipset unknown
[05:42] <dflpridesbabyboy> ive been trying to fix this since about 10 days
[05:42] <stealth-> dylan_: try installing klauncher, maybe?
[05:42] <ed2ef> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114204
[05:42] <cr0w> does your lspci output recognize the card?
[05:43] <dflpridesbabyboy> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[05:43] <cr0w> dfl, if i'm correct, airmon is a wireless connection application right?
[05:43] <dflpridesbabyboy> thats the card
[05:43] <cr0w> hmm
[05:43] <cr0w> mine's 4312, it's always worked with ndis..
[05:43] <dflpridesbabyboy> airmon-ng is aircrack
[05:44] <dylan_> stealth-, there is no package named klauncher
[05:44] <dflpridesbabyboy> idonno how to patch thats gonna take me like another 5 days
[05:44] <cr0w> i've never used aircrack unfortunately then >.>
[05:45] <IcemanV9> dflpridesbabyboy: are you saying that eth1 is working just fine, but the application, airmon-ng is not working. correct?
[05:45] <cr0w> i have it conveniently installed though - report the issue with aircrack again?
[05:45] <ed2ef> but u can get monitor mode, cr0w?
[05:46] <krphop> not all cards/drivers support monitor mode
[05:47] <unikon> is it normal for firefox 3.0.10 and Xchat 2.8.4 running on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS W/256 Ram to be so laggy or is it just the Ram is the issue
[05:47] <dflpridesbabyboy> krphop as far as i know it does
[05:47] <dflpridesbabyboy> theres away
[05:47] <lstarnes> unikon: 256MB is rather small
[05:47] <un_dave> unikon, firefox can be a bit of a ram hog
[05:47] <dflpridesbabyboy> its just i have done something wrong & i cant figure it out
[05:47] <cr0w> monitor mode isn't working atm.
[05:47] <Bob_Dole> Ubuntu on 256MB? yeah. Xubuntu on 256? Somewhat, but more than usable.
[05:47] <cr0w> un_dave, you can edit firefox's config by posting 'about:config' in the address bar, from there you can edit the ram usage
[05:47] <mzz> unikon: firefox in 256 MiB is a bit cramped, firefox + ubuntu's standard gnome desktop even more so
[05:47] <unikon> how is Kongqueror
[05:48] <jbroome> krappy :)
[05:48]  * Bob_Dole runs xubuntu on 600mhz P3s with 256MB of RAM, 5 tabs on firefox with no flash content and OpenOffice 3 run fine at the same time.
[05:48] <mzz> unikon: consider monitoring memory usage in top in a terminal and comparing browsers
[05:48] <un_dave> cr0w, i'm good. i have 8gb of ram here. it can use as much as it wants :P
[05:48] <DaveWM> could try iceweasel instead of firefox,  it seems to perform a bit better
[05:49] <DaveWM> don't think its in the ubuntu repos though
[05:49] <DaveWM> i didnt see it anyway
[05:49] <Bob_Dole> But I really do hate flash now.. makes my 2.8ghz Core 2 Duo with 4GB of RAM act like a Pentium MMX with 64MB of RAM.
[05:49] <DaveWM> heh,  yeah
[05:49] <DaveWM> but its so hard to avoid flash these days
[05:49] <dflpridesbabyboy> ed2ef u know how i can get my chipset to read ?
[05:49] <Bob_Dole> when using firefox* Arora, SeaMonkey, 2-3 other browsers handle it fine.
[05:50] <dflpridesbabyboy> only if i change to monitor mode
[05:50] <dylan_> can you run kde 4 apps in Xubuntu 9.04 ???
[05:50] <dflpridesbabyboy> in order for me to change monitor mode i have to enable RFMON
[05:50] <Bob_Dole> dflpridesbabyboy, we've discussed this. use a comma instead of enter.
[05:50] <unikon> hates flash
[05:50] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy, dude, i really dunno
[05:50] <lstarnes> dylan_: yes, but kde 4's libraries will be needed
[05:51] <dflpridesbabyboy> bob sorry dude im juss new using this for the first time & i apolegize'
[05:51] <lstarnes> dylan_: those programs can still run under xfce though
[05:51] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy, for now, the only way i see is getting the native driver(bcm43xx) to work, instead the ndiswrapper
[05:51] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy, but this driver is a little buggy
[05:52] <dflpridesbabyboy> yea well i would really appriciate some help if you come cross something some otherday or later on my email address is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[05:52] <dflpridesbabyboy> any help will be helpful
[05:53] <dylan_> lstarnes, because when I run dolphin in xubuntu, (used the add/remove program that was provided), dolphin gives me an error at the bottom of its screen saying "could not start process, could not launch klauncher, the name org.kde.klauncher was not provided by any .service files"
[05:53] <dflpridesbabyboy> god ill never figure this out"
[05:53] <lstarnes> dylan_: you might need to have dbus runnig
[05:53] <lstarnes> *running
[05:53] <ed2ef> problably will dude
[05:53] <ed2ef> did u search on ubuntu forums and google?
[05:53] <cr0w> dflpridesbabyboy - what system are you running? just out of curiousity?
[05:53] <dylan_> lstarnes, do I just run "dbus" as root or something "?
[05:54] <soreau> ed2ef: http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=broadcom
[05:54] <alex87> is there a way to make ssh respond quicker? it currently takes about a minute to ask for a password
[05:54] <ed2ef> soreau, ty man
[05:54] <lstarnes> dylan_: it should already be running
[05:54] <dylan_> hmm
[05:54] <Computer_Man> how do i change the number of desktops for CCSM won't go to more then 1
[05:54] <dylan_> well this version of Xubuntu uses gdm
[05:54] <ninjafury> Got lost in google. I cannot get suspend to work in Jaunty 64. I have an LG p310 with intel c2d and nvidia gfx card. Can anyone help?
[05:54] <YangYin> anyone know why im getting this error in jaunty? error while loading shared libraries: libxcb-xlib.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:54] <Flannel> alex87: http://arunstephens.com/2008/11/21/ssh-slow-to-login-disable-reverse-dns-lookup
[05:55] <dylan_> lstarnes, so wouldn't that have something to do with it (using gdm not kdm) ?
[05:55] <alex87> Flannel: cheers!
[05:55] <dflpridesbabyboy> im running ubuntu 9.04 cr0w
[05:55] <lstarnes> dylan_: is xfce4-quicklauncher-plugin installed?
[05:55] <cr0w> thanks :p
[05:55] <YangYin> does anyone else know if they have libxcb-xlib?
[05:55] <chuck_> dflpridesbabyboy, what are you trying to do get ndiswrapper working?
[05:55] <mzz> YangYin: running what? Most likely jaunty is using libxcb-1.2 which no longer has that library. Nothing but libX11 should have been using it, but some libraries or apps accidentally linked directly t o libxcb-xlib instead of just picking it up through libX11
[05:55] <dylan_> yes
[05:55] <dylan_> lstarnes, yes
[05:55] <ubuntu> hi..
[05:55] <dflpridesbabyboy> how do i run dbus ltarnes"
[05:56] <dflpridesbabyboy> no my chipset is unknow
[05:56] <ubuntu> can't boot windows...
[05:56] <ubuntu> my boot menu list is..
[05:56] <YangYin> mzz i think thats the problem... guess i gotta wait for the update to the program
[05:56] <cr0w> dfl what do you mean unknown?
[05:56] <ubuntu> # on /dev/sdb1
[05:56] <ubuntu> title		Microsoft Windows XP Professional
[05:56] <ubuntu> rootnoverify	(hd1,0)
[05:56] <ubuntu> savedefault
[05:56] <ubuntu> makeactive
[05:56] <FloodBot2> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <ubuntu> map		(hd0) (hd1)
[05:56] <dflpridesbabyboy> im trying to put it in monitor mode so it can read
[05:56] <mzz> YangYin: (so the right fix here is most likely to recompile the app or lib against the newer libX11+libxcb you have, not to find libxcb-xlib)
[05:56] <lstarnes> dylan_: I'm not sure how to get it working
[05:56] <dylan_> ok thanks lstarnes
[05:56] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy, reading the link that soreau send me, bcm43xx is now old, the driver u need to use is b43
[05:57] <cr0w> does everything EXCEPT aircrack work?
[05:57] <YangYin> mzz its not my application... but is there a way i can lib agianst the new libx11+libxcd?
[05:57] <ubuntu> my drive is at /dev/sda1
[05:58] <mzz> YangYin: if you have the source to the app you're trying to run you should be able to rebuild it and fix this in the process. If you don't it may be harder.
[05:58] <andresj> hey im trying to have a seamless desktop like in <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization>. However, rdesktop keeps telling me "WARNING: Broken Window Manager: Timeout while waiting for ConfigureNotify", "WARNING: Broken Window Manager: doesn't handle restack (window was moved to bottom)", and "WARNING: Remote desktop does not support colour depth 24; falling back to 16". I wonder what could be wrong—I'm using Ubunt
[05:58] <andresj> u Jaunty amd64 with no effects.
[05:58] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/b43 if u wanna know more about it
[05:58] <YangYin> mzz no dice on access to the app source
[05:58] <mzz> YangYin: what's the app?
[05:58] <ubuntu> hi pls.. anybody..
[05:58] <evilGUI> Is PPTP secure enough for a VPN connection? how hard is it to crack at 128bit?
[05:58] <YangYin> 2xApplicationServer client app
[05:59] <evilGUI> Also is openvpn more secure?
[05:59] <YangYin> its a free version of a citrix application
[05:59] <dflpridesbabyboy> i install b43 before i donno the steps where to download it
[05:59] <dflpridesbabyboy> grrrrrrrrrrr
[05:59] <YangYin> mzz im checking forums for possible help
[05:59] <mzz> YangYin: I'd check with their support then
[05:59] <dflpridesbabyboy> no one here know anyone about managed mode & monitor mode:
[05:59] <ed2ef> the shit on this driver, is that u need the driver and the proprietary firmware
[06:00] <Flannel> ed2ef: Please mind your language.
[06:00] <Dulak> evilGUI: openvpn allows arbitrary key sizes it's more secure the bigger the key you use
[06:00] <mzz> YangYin: you might be able to get away with hacking up the binaries to remove the dependency, or producing a dummy libxcb-xlib.so to fulfill the dependency, but if for some bizarre reason they actually *use* libxcb-xlib that may fail spectacularly.
[06:00] <ed2ef> Flannel, sorry
[06:00] <cr0w> dflprides have you tried the aircrack IRC channel?
[06:00] <dflpridesbabyboy> ed2ef can you help me get this driver & put the patch on it i mean tell me some how i can do it:??
[06:00] <Dulak> evilGUI: I would only use pptp in a situation where the client was stuck on windows without admin privs to install openvpn
[06:00] <YangYin> mzz lol i suppose i could try
[06:00] <dflpridesbabyboy> no cr0w im totally new
[06:01] <cr0w> it's in freenode, the channel is #aircrack-ng
[06:01] <mzz> YangYin: (they really shouldn't be using lixcb-xlib though, unless they're doing something weird like including a modified libX11...)
[06:01] <soreau> dflpridesbabyboy: #aircrack-ng or http://aircrack-ng.org
[06:01] <evilGUI> Dulak: Alright, I'm paying for a VPS and am using PPTP right now, I guess I'll switch thanks.
[06:01] <evilGUI> Dulak: VPN*
[06:01] <cr0w> they'll probably be alot more help
[06:01] <ed2ef> i think not, i dont have a broadcom wireless card, and the wiki is incompleted
[06:01] <dflpridesbabyboy> cr0w this whole problem i have is in aircrack-ng
[06:02] <Dulak> evilGUI: for windows clients there is an app called openvpn gui, I have used that in several installations, including my mother's laptop for online banking through the vpn, it's very easy to use
[06:02] <YangYin> mzz not sure what they do, but i found they are working on new update that is compatable with jaunty
[06:02] <YangYin> mzz im not too worried
[06:02] <YangYin> mzz thnx for all the help tho
[06:02] <YangYin> mzz very informative
[06:03] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy, looking on packages.ubuntu.com, i found the b43 module on linux-image and linux-restricted-module
[06:03] <mzz> YangYin: didn't actually fix the problem though :)
[06:03] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy, u just need to get the firmware, blacklist the ndis and reboot
[06:03] <dflpridesbabyboy> ed2ef ive been on that site i couldnt understand anything
[06:03] <YangYin> mzz lol no but understand the problem which sometimes is acceptable.
[06:04] <cr0w> dflpridesbabyboy, that means that the bcm43xx drivers SHOULD already be installed in your system..
[06:04] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy, the driver is on ur computer(open a terminal and type "sudo modprobe -l | grep b43" and u ll see it)
[06:04] <cr0w> (unless you've blacklisted them)
[06:04] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy, u just need the firmware to make it work
[06:04] <simoncpu> YangYin: do you have Updog?
[06:05] <YangYin> updog?
[06:05] <billybigrigger> haha
[06:05] <YangYin> lol whats up dawg?
[06:05] <dflpridesbabyboy> kernel/drivers/net/wireless/b43legacy/b43legacy.ko this is where it is
[06:05] <IcemanV9> uptime in dog years? ;-)
[06:05] <YangYin> simoncpu: are you serious?
[06:06] <dflpridesbabyboy> doesnt all this have to go in certain forlder too?
[06:06] <simoncpu> YangYin: no, i'm not serious
[06:06] <simoncpu> i've been asking this question for quite a while
[06:06] <YangYin> oh alright well night thnx mzz
[06:06] <simoncpu> and i can't bait a single person into typing
[06:06] <simoncpu> "what's updog?"
[06:06] <dflpridesbabyboy> where will i find the firmware i have firmware under lib/
[06:06] <dflpridesbabyboy> firmware
[06:07] <IcemanV9> updog = urban dictionary?
[06:07]  * bc asdfghjkl
[06:07] <Flannel> Regardless, it's offtopic.
[06:07] <ed2ef> see, the driver is already on ur ubuntu, u just need the firmware, and that u can extract from the windows driver with the b43-fwcutter or getting the ready-package from http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/
[06:07] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/b43 this is on the bottom of this page
[06:08] <ftp3> is this: Ubuntu Server <IP_ADDRESS>  "heron" ?
[06:08] <ftp3> i mean, hardy, lol
[06:08] <lstarnes> ftp3: 8.04 - 8.04.2 is hardy heron
[06:08] <Kiradien> Is it possible possible to turn an existing Ubuntu installation into an iso to easily reinstall the exact same settings etc - other than the users?
[06:09] <simoncpu> Kiradien: i dunno... use dd, perhaps?
[06:09] <dflpridesbabyboy> i dont even know where this kernel/drivers/net/wireless/b43legacy.ko"
[06:10] <ftp3> lstarns, thanks
[06:11] <IndyGunFreak> ed2ef: how reliable is that broadcom package on cafuego? (i have limited broadcom experience)
[06:12] <Kiradien> I didnt expect the first ping I heared to give an answer I could use, thanks
[06:12] <cr0w> dfl, look in /sys
[06:12] <dylan_> how do I get klauncher in Xubuntu 9.04 ?
[06:12] <dflpridesbabyboy> l0l thankx cr0w:
[06:12] <cr0w> :o was that sarcasm?
[06:13] <seo> :P
[06:13] <dflpridesbabyboy> dang i fell for it too
[06:13] <cr0w> now i'm confused - anyways, you find it?
[06:14] <dylan_> anyone ? now how to get klauncher running / installed for xubuntu ?
[06:14] <cr0w> @dylan, why don't you just install kde and then boot into xfce?
[06:14] <mrlolplx> a vnc viewer for ubuntu that features c/p
[06:15] <dflpridesbabyboy> props to eb2ef
[06:15] <dflpridesbabyboy> thank you
[06:15] <dflpridesbabyboy> i really understood a little"
[06:15] <IndyGunFreak> cr0w: ?...lol.. thats like buying a ferrari to go to the grocery store
[06:15] <dflpridesbabyboy> now how do i patch b43legacy
[06:15] <cr0w> pft, what else is a hard drive for :]?
[06:15] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[06:15] <cr0w> i live in america, we're lazy
[06:16] <pegon> just a general question...who in here uses iptables as a firewall?
[06:16] <Rakko> I just installed Jaunty on an Athlon64. WindowMaker crashes on me. Anyone familiar with this problem?
[06:18] <pegon> No idea what WindowMaker is Rakko sorry
[06:19] <Rakko> Also, I rebuilt the .deb. I used DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="debug noopt", but it seems it still stripped debugging info out. How do I prevent that?
[06:19] <cr0w> pegon it's a window manager, like fluxbox or blackbox
[06:19] <pegon> ahhh okay
[06:20] <Rakko> Question #3: I am able to run gdb on the program using its dumped core file, but I can't figure out how to pass arguments to it. Anyone know?
[06:21] <cr0w> Rakko, unfortunately i'd suggest finding a more specific channel to your issues o.O
[06:21] <ed2ef> IndyGunFreak, idk, i just say what was in the link that i post
[06:21] <Rakko> specific to what?
[06:21] <IndyGunFreak> ed2ef: understood.. just curious how it works.
[06:22] <cr0w> your problems..like a window maker channel for the one a while ago
[06:22] <Rakko> oh
[06:22] <Rakko> there's a problem with the ubuntu package so I thought I'd ask here
[06:22] <Brack10> Is there some way I can listen to music on one computer and do visualization on the other?
[06:22] <Rakko> admittedly I haven't tried compiling it from scratch (just dpkg-buildpackage)
[06:22] <Brack10> pulseaudio client server maybe?
[06:23] <Brack10> does it work over the network?
[06:26] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy, i find this site, maybe this can help to get ur card to work with b43 http://fourlovesfour.blogspot.com/2008/05/setting-up-broadcom-b43-wireless-with.html
[06:26] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy, remeber blacklist the ndiswrapper before the reboot or it probably wont work
[06:27] <Noble> Can anyone check if my vlc http stream is working?
[06:27] <IndyGunFreak> Noble: sure... link?
[06:27] <Noble> http at @ <IP_ADDRESS> port 1234
[06:28] <diane> hey
[06:28] <bc> Brack10: yes, pulseaudio. I have no experience doing that, but I know it's possible because Gnea configured it that way.
[06:29] <IndyGunFreak> Noble: doesn't look like it
[06:29] <Noble> get any kind of error?
[06:29] <IndyGunFreak> just says VLC is unable to open the URL http://<IP_ADDRESS>"
[06:29] <Noble> you have to specify the port
[06:30] <diane> any wireless pros
[06:30] <Noble> vlc http://<IP_ADDRESS>:1234
[06:30] <IndyGunFreak> Noble: 1234 is the default, but ok
[06:31] <IndyGunFreak> same error
[06:31] <Noble> strange
[06:31] <Noble> got some other guy to play it
[06:31] <Noble> and it works there :S
[06:31] <IndyGunFreak> well, i listen to streaming audio w/ VLC all the time.. no problems
[06:32] <Noble> I see
[06:32] <grendal_prime> god this pisses me off..
[06:32] <Noble> thanks anyways
[06:32] <grendal_prime> yahoo servers keep rejecting email from my server.
[06:33] <Noble> use an smtp relay?
[06:33] <grendal_prime> and i have a ton of people that are trying to register
[06:33] <bc> grendal_prime: that sounds about right for yahoo.
[06:33] <diane> gmail
[06:33] <bc> grendal_prime: does the server's IP resolve?
[06:33] <Titan8990> grendal_prime, dns misconfigurations is the most common cause
[06:33] <grendal_prime> noble, The relay i was using (my isp) limits the number of emails i can send.
[06:34] <bc> grendal_prime: maybe put up some SPF records and see if they start accepting it
[06:34] <grendal_prime> bc, i need to set up an mx record for it i belive..the server resolves though
[06:34] <Noble> grendal_prime: afaik yahoo, msn and other "big" companies auto reject mail from unknown servers
[06:34] <Titan8990> grendal_prime, yes.... mx record is a requirement for all domains whether they run main or not
[06:34] <grendal_prime> ok
[06:34] <Titan8990> err run mail
[06:34] <grendal_prime> im looking at that now.
[06:35] <bc> Noble: "unknown servers" is pretty vague
[06:35] <whatvn> grendal_prime: you must ask your isp to reverse ip adress to your domain, I think
[06:35] <Noble> bc: well, uhm, unknow as in untrusted. Or not whitelisted I believe.
[06:36] <dflpridesbabyboy> ed2ef im still confused weather i should use b43 or ndis
[06:36] <dflpridesbabyboy> because i tried using ndis before and messed everything up"
[06:36] <Titan8990> grendal_prime, ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc1912.txt
[06:36] <dflpridesbabyboy> sorry i was trying to copy files
[06:36] <dflpridesbabyboy> how do i copy files from one folder to another
[06:37] <dflpridesbabyboy> like windows i coulda just drag in forlder
[06:37] <Rakko> cp source destination
 ctrlC then ctrl V :|
[06:37] <dflpridesbabyboy> ubuntu im having hardtime moving files from my desktop to the firmware
[06:37] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, to the firmware?
[06:37] <dflpridesbabyboy> titan are you familiar with aircrack
[06:38] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmware
[06:38] <dflpridesbabyboy> monitor mode chipset unknown error
[06:38] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, yes I am
[06:38] <dflpridesbabyboy> how can i fix that
[06:38] <dflpridesbabyboy> i would really appriciate
 with aircrack you should ask packetstorm
[06:38] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, use a driver thats supported by aircrack
[06:38] <whatvn> sorry: remote-exploit
[06:38] <Titan8990> whatvn, not really
[06:38] <amagee> hi i'm using ubuntu 9.04 with two monitors using nvidia and xinerama, and sometimes my mouse will get stuck one one monitor and refuse to move to the other.  it persists like this until i close most if not all of the windows i have open (i'm using xmonad as a window manager).  any ideas what i can do about this?
[06:38] <Titan8990> whatvn, #aircrack-ng
[06:39] <grendal_prime> Titan8990: im looking at the account now on networksolutions..there is an mx record for it
[06:39] <dflpridesbabyboy> like b43legecy
[06:39] <whatvn> Titan8990: I don't remember irc channel exactly
[06:39] <Titan8990> whatvn, i am on remote-exploit all the time and i can guarentee they will either a) ban him b) tell him to rtfm
[06:39] <whatvn> Titan8990: ok
[06:39] <Titan8990> grendal_prime, does it point to an ip or a domain name?
[06:40] <grendal_prime> domain name
[06:40] <grendal_prime> my domain name
[06:41] <dflpridesbabyboy> titan are you familiar with RFMON enable?
[06:41] <dflpridesbabyboy> enable monitor mode?
[06:41] <whatvn> grendal_prime: if you have an email server, I think you *should* ask your isp to reverse your ip to your domain, they will please to do it
[06:41] <dflpridesbabyboy> ineed a good turtorial
[06:41] <Rakko> How do I ensure that a program is built with debugging info, using dpkg-buildpackage? I am already using DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="debug noopt" dpkg-buildpackage -nc -us -uc
[06:41] <dflpridesbabyboy> anyone about patching & getting the correct drivers
[06:42] <ed2ef> i think u dont need to patch anymore
[06:42] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers&DokuWiki=aeb455658ad5fb024ffa4860eea14413#broadcom_chipset_comments
[06:42] <ed2ef> u just need to decide what driver u wanna use, the ndis or the b43
[06:42] <Titan8990> ed2ef, ndis will never be supported by aircrack
[06:42] <grendal_prime> I dont know that these guys are able to do that..but, anther idea would be to use ..like a gmail account as a realay.  They have opened up my account so i can relay smtp.  So i guess i could set up my gmail account as a smart host sort of deal?
[06:42] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, you still have to patch the mac80211 stack with the b43 drivers
[06:43] <ed2ef> i know that, but he couldn't get to work the other driver
[06:43] <navetz__> where is the ffmpeg directory on my system? I installed the program but dont know where the dir is
[06:43] <Titan8990> grendal_prime, not if your mass mailing
 can you bring up your network card?
[06:43] <bc> grendal_prime: or you can use your isp's smtp as a relay just for mail destined for yahoo.com
[06:43] <grendal_prime> ya but im not...at moset...50 emails?
[06:43] <Titan8990> grendal_prime, per day?
[06:43] <dflpridesbabyboy> yes eth1
[06:43] <grendal_prime> bc i had the same problem with the isp though
[06:43] <dflpridesbabyboy> chipset unknown tho
[06:44] <grendal_prime> titan..ya,
[06:44] <dflpridesbabyboy> titan so i have b43 driver already
[06:44] <grendal_prime> roughly, it is going up pretty steadily, but they are not all at one time...here there usually a few min/15 seconds apart.
[06:44] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, what chipset?
[06:44] <ed2ef> u got the firmware?
[06:44] <bc> grendal_prime: what is the reply from yahoo mx when you try to send?
[06:44] <dflpridesbabyboy> and now i need mac80211 patch which ive seen around and what i do which folder i put in how do i patch it?
[06:44] <grendal_prime> hold on ill get log info
[06:44] <dflpridesbabyboy> airmon-ng start eth1
[06:45] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, you shouldn't worry yourself with aircrack if you don't even have working wireless
[06:45] <dflpridesbabyboy> http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers&DokuWiki=aeb455658ad5fb024ffa4860eea14413#broadcom_chipset_comments
[06:45] <brad__> #philosophy
[06:45] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, thats like painting a house before they have put the walls up
[06:45] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy, did u read the link i send to u?
[06:45] <dflpridesbabyboy> Interface	Chipset		Driver
[06:45] <dflpridesbabyboy> eth1		Unknown 		wl (monitor mode enabled)
[06:45] <dflpridesbabyboy> this chipset
" iwconfig eth0 mode monitor " , replace eth0 with you network card name
[06:45] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, lspci
[06:45] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy,  u need to extract the firmware on /lib/firmware
[06:45] <chemikalz> i did sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng
[06:45] <chemikalz> and it didnt show up in my window
[06:46] <grendal_prime> 2009-05-18 15:54:35 1M6BeG-0003y5-MM ==<EMAIL_ADDRESS>R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp defer (-46): SMTP error from remote mail server after end of data: host f.mx.mail.yahoo.com [<IP_ADDRESS>]: 421 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.51. Please refer to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/defer/defer-06.html
[06:46] <chemikalz> menu rather
[06:46] <Titan8990> chemikalz, its not a gui application
[06:46] <chemikalz> ah
[06:46] <brad__> where is the any key?
[06:46] <brad__> lol
[06:46] <Titan8990> chemikalz, its actually a suite of cli utilities
[06:46] <brad__> n/m found it its above the space bar
[06:46] <bc> grendal_prime: you're not an open relay, right?
[06:47] <holycow> does anyone know if its possible to get folder encryption to use multiple cores?
[06:47] <Titan8990> chemikalz, man aircrack-ng will list the other commands in the suite at the end of the man page
[06:47] <holycow> its maxing only one core and google isnt revealing too much around the how and why of this
[06:48] <brad__> hi hoeq!
[06:48] <ed2ef> well, my laptop battery is going down, so i ll have to quit, dflpridesbabyboy if u wanna go for the b43, follow this guide http://fourlovesfour.blogspot.com/2008/05/setting-up-broadcom-b43-wireless-with.html
[06:48] <dflpridesbabyboy> so i put the driver b43 all files in lib/firmware
[06:48] <ed2ef> blacklist the ndiswrapper module
[06:49] <noc> hi
[06:49] <dflpridesbabyboy> and then download firware for b43
[06:49] <ed2ef> and unblacklist the b43
[06:49] <noc> hi
[06:49] <dflpridesbabyboy> and like titan said patch it with mac802
[06:49] <noc> any body there?
[06:49] <ed2ef> no no, follow the link
[06:49] <dflpridesbabyboy> & i should resolve this problem?
 I don't think you need to patch
[06:49] <ed2ef> u need just need to download the firmware and extract to /lib/firmware
[06:49] <noc> I'd like to use Printer and Modem on Ubuntu OS
[06:49] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, honestly, i doubt with your experience you will get that kind of thing working for a while
[06:49] <dflpridesbabyboy> ed2ef thank you very much for all your help
[06:49] <noc> how can I do it
[06:50] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, just focus on making your wireless work
[06:50] <ed2ef> then blacklist ndiswrapper and unblacklist the b43 module
[06:50] <DonP> Hi
[06:50] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, slowly move on from there
[06:50] <ed2ef> just that
[06:50] <DonP> I needed some help with windows cd on ubuntu
[06:50] <bc> grendal_prime: also make sure your server's ip resolves, the domain resolves and the domain in the mx record resolves and its IP resolves.
[06:50] <Titan8990> ed2ef, he does need to patch if he wants to inject
[06:50] <jvainio197> hello! I have a problem, Ubuntu doesn't want to connect to the internet by wireless or wire. I am at an Global Gossip internet "cafe". Any ideas how to get this working?
[06:50] <DonP> for some reason windows cds are not recognized on ubuntu
[06:50] <Titan8990> ed2ef, although, Im not recommending he does it
[06:50] <ed2ef> dflpridesbabyboy, np man
[06:51] <bc> grendal_prime: and maybe set up a postmaster@ address
[06:51] <dflpridesbabyboy> titan ive been trying slowly for past 15 nights l0l thats cause i guess im new to linux
[06:51] <Titan8990> DonP, could it be because its not windows?
[06:51] <Titan8990> DonP, whats on the cds?
[06:51] <dflpridesbabyboy> thankx you again
[06:51] <chemikalz> thanks titan
[06:51] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, 15 nights is nothing
[06:51] <chemikalz> guess ill mess with it tommorrow
[06:51] <chemikalz> looks complicated lol
[06:51] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, i have been at it 500+ nights
[06:51] <chemikalz> lookin at the manual
[06:51] <dflpridesbabyboy> titan ive been trying slowly for past 15 nights l0l thats cause i guess im new to linux
[06:51] <ed2ef> Titan8990, ya, i really dunno dude, i agree that b43 it's not the probably the best driver ever, but if he need to get the monitor mode, this is the only way
[06:51] <dflpridesbabyboy> danggggggggggg
[06:51] <Titan8990> chemikalz, they have video tuts
[06:52] <chemikalz> nice
[06:52] <DonP> original office 2007
[06:52] <dflpridesbabyboy> kernel/drivers/net/wireless/b43legacy/b43legacy.ko im looking for this folder
[06:52] <dflpridesbabyboy> i have this driver in here
[06:52] <dflpridesbabyboy> i want to get rid of this chipset unknown error
[06:52] <Titan8990> dflpridesbabyboy, your not listening
[06:52] <noc> hi
[06:53] <noc> Who are using Asterisk on Unbuntu ?
[06:53] <whatvn> noc: don't say "hi" anymore
[06:53] <Iowahc> hello there, got the .ICEauthority problem. tells me no write access, after each restart I have to manually chmod the file, how do I set it permanently? Running Kubuntu. already asked in #kubuntu, but no reaction
[06:53] <noc> sorry
[06:53] <noc> who are using Asterisk on Ubuntu?
[06:53] <noc> I need help
[06:54] <android6011> i have a wrt54g router and an ubuntu machine wired to it, i am copying a file to it from a wireless client and only getting 1MB/s transfer speeds. is this normal? i
[06:54] <Titan8990> noc, you will want to visit asterisk specific support
[06:54] <noc> ok
[06:54] <Titan8990> noc, people running thier of PBS systems is not common
[06:54] <Titan8990> noc, but very interesting :)
[06:54] <msmarc> does anyone know if ebox is working correctly under intrepid, I read online that there was a bug
[06:54] <noc> do u know Asterisk chat room?
[06:55] <Titan8990> noc, this is freenode
[06:55] <Iowahc> android6011: which WLAN standard is your Client supporting?
[06:55] <Titan8990> noc, as a general rule you can type /join #NAMEOFFREEAPPLICATION
[06:55] <noc> Can u please let me know for Asterisk Chat room Name?
[06:55] <Titan8990> noc, /join #asterisk
[06:55] <grendal_prime> bc postmaster@ ?
[06:55] <android6011> Iowahc: what do you mean? wireless g?
[06:55] <vitalik> привет вс
[06:55] <Iowahc> a / b / g / n
[06:55] <grendal_prime> I filled out yahoos form..
[06:56] <grendal_prime> maybe they will fix it..who fxn knows..
[06:57] <android6011> Iowahc: its g
[06:57] <grendal_prime> thing that pisses me off is its not like im sending out any bulk mails or anything like that..its just one email at a time, and to a direct email address
[06:57] <infekteddeath> anyone know anything about home brewed  router boxes
[06:57] <grendal_prime> infekteddeath: ya thats all i use
[06:57] <Iowahc> android6011: look at your routers configuration. with 11 Mbit/s you get approximatly 1 MB / s
[06:57] <mindrape> infekteddeath: do you have a specific iptables question or something?
[06:57] <qubits> Hey
[06:57] <Iowahc> maybe misconfigured router
[06:57] <infekteddeath> what router distro you use
[06:58] <grendal_prime> debian stable. usually
[06:58] <qubits> So I messed with something in the synaptic package manager, I think I added compiz fusion or something and now I don't have any titlebars
[06:58] <qubits> or borders...
[06:58] <qubits> I was beginning to troubleshoot it but i don't know what window manager is already in use
[06:58] <qubits> I think I got something to the effect of the default theme folder being missing
[06:58] <bc> grendal_prime: see, http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/policy-postmaster.php
[06:59] <mindrape> qubits -      metacity --replace &
[06:59] <DonP> any idea about windows cd issues in fiesty
[06:59] <Iowahc> android6011: how is the signal strength?
[06:59] <DonP> is there a patch I can apply or anything to resolve this issue
[06:59] <Titan8990> DonP, i asked you what were on the cds and you never said anythng
[06:59] <android6011> Iowahc: 100% im right next to it
[06:59] <whatvn> DonP: is your cdrom mounted?
[07:00] <Iowahc> android6011: 802.11g supports 54 Mbps but netto it is around 40% so just about 25Mbps, although it should speed up to 3 - 4 Megabyte/s
[07:00] <bc> grendal_prime: no guarantee yahoo cares about postmaster@, but you might run into it down the road
[07:00] <dflpridesbabyboy> titan it says i dont have right permission to extract in to file lib/firmware
[07:00] <Iowahc> android6011: what router distro are you using?
[07:00] <dflpridesbabyboy> any ideas how i can fix this error
[07:01] <Iowahc> hello there, got the .ICEauthority problem. tells me no write access, after each restart I have to manually chmod the file, how do I set it permanently? Running Kubuntu. already asked in #kubuntu, but no reaction
[07:01] <phlooke> is everybody here using stoner edition?
[07:01] <android6011> Iowahc: dd-wrt but no one is in the chan at the moment
[07:01] <whatvn> Iowahc: I use G standard, and my speed is about 40MBs
[07:01] <qubits> mindrape, that produced no change or notable errors from stdout
[07:01] <DonP> the cd's have microsoft office 2007
[07:01] <qubits> let me move back to a system theme
[07:01] <Iowahc> whatvn: MegaBits or MegaBytes?
[07:01] <toor_> hi all
[07:02] <whatvn> Iowahc: MB not Mb
[07:02] <dflpridesbabyboy> titan it says i dont have right permission to extract in to file lib/firmware
[07:02] <grendal_prime> hmm im wondering if i shouldnt just try the gmail as a smart host option..
[07:02] <DonP> yes they seem to be mounted. Meaning I can see them under /dev/cdrom
[07:02] <Iowahc> whatvn: so megabytes? :D
[07:02] <bc> Iowahc: related? -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172210
[07:02] <DonP> but even when I put the windows cd nothing appears in that
[07:02] <grendal_prime> i have a gmail account with the name of the domain, like<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:02] <DonP> nothing appears in that path
[07:02] <dflpridesbabyboy> titan it says i dont have right permission to extract in to file lib/firmware'
[07:02] <grendal_prime> woudnt look to odd to come from there ...
[07:02] <dflpridesbabyboy> titan it says i dont have right permission to extract in to file lib/firmware'
[07:03] <whatvn> Iowahc: yes.
[07:03] <toor_> Hey Everyone try out glideOS its a Web OS free 10 gigs of storage online
[07:03] <vigo> DonP: Tried WINE?
[07:03] <qubits> mindrape, can I pm you
[07:03] <whatvn> Iowahc: or I fogot something :-? :p
[07:03] <qubits> I'm not very noobish fyi
[07:03] <aixenv> hey guys anyone got 802.11N working with 9.04?
[07:03] <Iowahc> whatvn: what did you do to it? xD
[07:03] <DonP> Hi vigo, I don't think wine can solve the issue because I can't see the setup.exe itself
[07:04] <qubits> Can someone help me get my titlebars back
[07:04] <DonP> if I can see that then I can execute it via wine
[07:04] <Sagaci> could anyone recommend a good iso burning tool for ubuntu
[07:04] <aixenv> i see my dmesg shows 'iwlagn Intel(R) Wireless WiFI Link AGN driver for Linux 1.3.27ks ; so looks like the driver si in place
[07:04] <qubits> k3b
[07:04] <mindrape> Sagaci - I use k3b
[07:04] <Iowahc> bc: jep, same problem, but chown / chmod it doesnt resolves the problem
[07:04] <vigo> DonP: Load them in Windows, use WINE to read or access them?
[07:04] <Iowahc> on restart the same problem
[07:04] <Sagaci> preferably gui
[07:05] <DonP> I don't have dual  boot. I've been using ubuntu for 4 yrs now just single boot
[07:05] <whatvn> Iowahc: sorry, I checked, Mb/s :)
[07:05] <Titan8990> DonP, openoffice works fine for most people
[07:05] <bc> Iowahc: how are you starting X?
[07:05] <aixenv> altho i also see where it says "iwlagn: Tunable channels: 13 802.11bg, 24 802.11a channels" dont see anything about draft n, any ideas?
[07:05] <Iowahc> whatvn: thought about it ^^
[07:05] <Iowahc> bc: what do you mean?
[07:05] <Titan8990> DonP, but there is WINE and also cadega makes a product specifically for ms office in linux
[07:05] <whatvn> Iowahc: :)
[07:06] <Iowahc> bc: automatically
[07:06] <Iowahc> bc: on startup
[07:06] <toor_> does WarCraft 3 work with Wine?
[07:06] <syntax\> is there a fix for the open office icons to not to work when not using Human Icon theme?
[07:06] <bc> Iowahc: is the .ICEauthority owned by root before you have to 'fix it'?
[07:06] <Iowahc> bc exactly
[07:06] <whatvn> toor_: wine has a list of software work with it
[07:07] <Agion> hi! Does someone bother to help me setting CS on wine up?
[07:07] <Agion> I've installed it but it doesn't quite work
[07:07] <vigo> Titan8990: I agree totally. Oo rocks
[07:07] <bc> Iowahc: also see this thread, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1004356
[07:07] <grendal_prime> sounds about like wine
[07:07] <Kall> anyone know what kind of spider this is? http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2420/dscf2265.jpg
[07:07] <pheonix> what is SuperKaramba?
[07:07] <grendal_prime> they all it wine but i swear it should be called whine
[07:07] <DonP> :)
[07:07] <qubits> did someone say my nick
[07:08] <phlooke> so use microsoft
[07:08] <Kall> anyone?
[07:08] <Kall> i cant fucking figure it out
[07:08] <phlooke> what are you trying to do kall
[07:08] <whatvn> Kall: what do you mean?
[07:08] <dflpridesbabyboy> titan it says i dont have right permission to extract in to file lib/firmware
[07:08] <bc> Kall: that is a mexican jumping spider
[07:08] <dflpridesbabyboy> anyone know y
[07:08] <dflpridesbabyboy> titan it says i dont have right permission to extract in to file lib/firmware
[07:08] <Titan8990> !op
[07:08] <dflpridesbabyboy> titan it says i dont have right permission to extract in to file lib/firmware'
[07:08] <FloodBot2> dflpridesbabyboy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:08] <vigo> !offtopic
[07:09] <whatvn> dflpridesbabyboy: use sudo
[07:09] <Titan8990> !sudo | dflpridesbabyboy
[07:09] <grendal_prime> Kall looks like a regular old garden spider to me
[07:09] <Kall> bc: it's not
[07:09] <pheonix> please any one whats SuperKaramba
[07:09] <aixenv> any ideas?
[07:09] <Iowahc> bc: thread doesnt tell me anything new :(
[07:09] <Sagaci> toor_: somewhat, it's fiddly
[07:09] <pheonix> can any one explain
[07:09] <grendal_prime> we get them here that look like that...hang around the compost pile picking off huge house files.
[07:09] <dflpridesbabyboy> i know but im trying to extract & chose file lib/firmware extract dont want to work
[07:10] <dflpridesbabyboy> it gives me
[07:10] <dflpridesbabyboy> titan it says i dont have right permission to extract in to file lib/firmware
[07:10] <dflpridesbabyboy> that error
[07:10] <FloodBot2> dflpridesbabyboy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:10] <DanaG> hmm, anyone know suspend-to-disk really well?  I'm pondering whether I really need 4 gigs swap to suspend a theoretically full 4 gigs RAM.
[07:10] <grendal_prime> they like the Artichoke plants..alot of workable area for webs...
[07:10] <dflpridesbabyboy> i donno the actual command to do it in terminal
[07:10] <Agion> I've installed CSS with wine on my ubuntu and it doesn't quite work.. I get to the game but then something happens (or happens not).. Does anyone even read these things?
[07:11] <whatvn> dflpridesbabyboy: use sudo tar -option
[07:11] <whatvn> dflpridesbabyboy: use sudo before your command
[07:11] <vigo> !man
[07:11] <whatvn> dflpridesbabyboy: next time try *man sudo*
[07:12] <phlooke> is there any other browser than firefox on ubuntu?
[07:12] <vigo> It is a learning curve, and a forgetting curve
[07:12] <cute_girl> huy
[07:12] <dflpridesbabyboy> whatvn man sudo doesnt work im trying to extract a file i donno command to extract a file
[07:12] <dflpridesbabyboy> no matter where i try to extract it from
[07:12] <vigo> phlooke: I like IceCat, but the area of better and best is an opinion.
[07:13] <dflpridesbabyboy> it says permission denied
[07:13] <mindrape> dflpridesbabyboy: tar -zxvf thisfile.tar.gz  ?
[07:13] <mindrape> dflpridesbabyboy: what kind of file is it?  filename?
[07:13] <DonP> cadega is not free right
[07:13] <Kall> SOMEOME MUST KNOW
[07:13] <whatvn> dflpridesbabyboy: sudo tar -xzvf filename.tar.gz , man sudo just give you the way using sudo
[07:14] <vigo> DonP: Cedega is a pay as you play deal
[07:14] <aixenv> i did 'iwconfig wlanN' too and dont really see any way to try and force N
[07:14] <bc> Iowahc: does anything run upon login that uses sudo?
[07:14] <mindrape> Kall - 1) watch your language please this is a family channel.  2) we dont know what kind of spider that is and if we didnt we wouldnt talk about it cause that would be off topic.
[07:14] <whatvn> aixenv: N is what?
[07:14] <RHorse> some of  these folks are just so thick
[07:14] <aixenv> whatvn: trying to get 802.11N speeds on my box
[07:15] <Iowahc> bc: nothing I know of
[07:15] <aixenv> whatvn: according to dmsg i have the linux iwlagn driver so looks like draft N should be "driver supported" at the very least
[07:15] <bc> Iowahc: I mean, it seems like it's something along these lines, but this particular link is an old bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/8785
[07:15] <chilli0> how can i make hddtemp start on boot
[07:16] <whatvn> aixenv: iwconfig wlanN *N is the name of wlan card* just show configuration of this card
[07:16] <aixenv> whatvn: yea i did that, i know
[07:16] <mindrape> chilli0 - System -> Administration -> Services?
[07:16] <chilli0> mmm
[07:16] <aixenv> trying to figure out how to "force" N
[07:16] <mindrape> chilli0: otherwise add it to /etc/rc.local
[07:17] <chilli0> when i origonaly installed it it came up with something , and it said to do it a special way , but i said dont start on boot.
[07:17] <chilli0> but meh
[07:17] <bc> Iowahc: poke around here as well, https://launchpad.net/+search?field.text=.ICEauthority
[07:17] <mindrape> chilli0: if you want that menu back try sudo dpkg-reconfigure hddtemp
[07:17] <chilli0> k thanks
[07:18] <whatvn> aixenv: is your card support n standard?
[07:18] <aixenv> whatvn: yes
[07:18] <Iowahc> hm, only thing is, I start kvpnc from within the system by sudo, maybe a similar bug to k3b
[07:18] <aixenv> whatvn: and according to dmesg it looks like the drive supports N also since its 'linux iwagn'
[07:18] <whatvn> aixenv: then it will run n automatically if your router supports too
[07:19] <aixenv> whatvn: it isnt, and router supports N as well
[07:19] <bc> Iowahc: run it with strace and see if it's manipulating the permissions on .ICEauthority (e.g. strace sudo kvpnc)
[07:19] <enovativ> using alien to convert .rpm to .deb, and it is not workign
[07:19] <whatvn> aixenv: you must config router run N standard? did you config?
[07:19] <aixenv> whatvn: yes
[07:19] <enovativ> first it said use the "--scripts" parameter...i did that ..still did not work
[07:19] <Iowahc> bc: i am going to try it
[07:20] <|Newton|> Goodmorning :) CAn anyone explain to my why, everytime i try to open WC3 on my MSI Wind Ubuntu 9 the screen is all black and i have to restart?
[07:20] <aixenv> whatvn: i set it to N-only, but that's also compatiblity with bg, so i assume its falling back on g
[07:20] <DanaG> you can't strace sudo... but you can sudo strace.
[07:20] <KB1JWQ> DanaG: I'd probably sudo bash, THEN strace.
[07:20] <bc> Iowahc: you'll get a lot of text fly by. maybe try it with sudo strace kvpnc 2>&1 | pager
[07:20] <KB1JWQ> But I'm odd like that.
[07:21] <DonP> windows based cd not reading in ubuntu
[07:21] <DonP> what could be the issue?
[07:21] <DanaG> sudo -i is nicer.
[07:21] <DonP> cd has office 2007
[07:21] <DonP> I am on fiesty
[07:21] <mindrape> sudo -i sets up the environment properly... sudo'ing to root in general is evil though and a cardinal sin of Ubuntu.  Repent.
[07:21] <whatvn> aixenv: if you set to N only, and your client connected to the router, you're running N standard :|
[07:22] <KB1JWQ> mindrape: su - works.
[07:22] <enovativ> using alien to convert .rpm to .deb, and it is not workign
[07:22] <enovativ> first it said use the "--scripts" parameter...i did that ..still did not work
[07:22] <Iowahc> bc: its kvpnc
[07:22] <mindrape> KB1JWQ: I'm aware of how to become root... I just frown on it.
[07:22] <whatvn> aixenv: because in N-only mode, your router should not accept client with b/g standard to connect
[07:22] <mindrape> !root | KB1JWQ
[07:22] <bc> Iowahc: well, at least you won't go on wondering
[07:22] <mindrape> ubotu has spoken...
[07:23] <Iowahc> bc: yep, but now to figure out, how to resolve it ^^
[07:23] <bc> Iowahc: I don't know if that's technically a bug (maybe it is), and if there isn't a report already in maybe file one
[07:23] <DonP> can udf issues be read in ubuntu
[07:24] <chilli0> im using conky and im doing this setup, http://www.quicktweaks.com/2008/09/27/gmail-weather-beauty-right-on-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[07:24] <chilli0> But i cant get weather working
[07:25] <Iowahc> bc: got it, using the [Alt] [F2] call to start kvpnc it seems to start with proper user settings
[07:25] <aixenv> well it's connecting at 54
[07:25] <aixenv> so its def not N
[07:25] <chilli0> heres what i get when running it in termnial , http://pastebin.com/ma3588
[07:27] <khermans> anyone a bluetooth expert?  'hcitool dev' returns no results :-(  bluetooth is enabled in the BIOS, and the hardware switch is disabled for both bluetooth and wifi, but still no luck :-(
[07:29] <whatvn> aixenv: give me one minute
[07:29] <Agion> while I try to start Counter strike source by wine the colsole is full of http://pastebin.com/m7b6323e2 can anyone help please?
[07:30] <aixenv> whatvn: ok, i can pastebin my lspci -v related reference and the iwconfig wlan0 if you want
[07:30] <timob> how can i get nautilus to pick up my ssh keys when connecting using sftp:// ?
[07:30] <DonP> how can I mount a windows burned cd on ubuntu
[07:30] <whatvn> aixenv: no, dont need
[07:30] <DonP> meaning cd is udf format I guess
[07:30] <aixenv> k
[07:31] <Titan8990> DonP, mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[07:31] <Titan8990> DonP, err with sudo
[07:31] <chetnick> guys VLC o MPlayer?
[07:31] <Titan8990> !best | chetnick
[07:31] <bishop> dumped vista running ubuntu and xubuntu
[07:31] <Titan8990> chetnick, i will say that i compile the very large qt lib just so I can use vlc....
[07:32] <qubits> lol
[07:32] <qubits> vlc pwns
[07:32] <mejobloggs> everyone seems to complain about vlc quality though
[07:33] <chetnick> well, didnt aks which one is best, VLC dont work right for me, and i never used MPlayer, so i need advice.
[07:33] <mejobloggs> i see people saying it all the time, but ive never seen any examples
[07:33] <kromar> hi
[07:33] <aixenv> any ideas?
[07:34] <whatvn> aixenv: what is you wireless card name?
[07:34] <whatvn> I mean wlan0, wlan1 or something else?
[07:34] <rohdef> does anyone has some fixes that might increase the stability of Jaunty?
[07:34] <aixenv> Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5300 AGN
[07:35] <aixenv> wlan0
[07:35] <whatvn> ok
[07:35] <kromar> im having a small problem with my ntfs drives again, i had to reinstall windows and for some reason my backup drive is now on c: and my system on d: and it looks like ubuntu gets confused by that and cant read the disks anymore
[07:35] <kromar> any idea how to fix that?
[07:36] <Agion> did anyone even look at the link? or notice my message?
[07:37] <mejobloggs> i did.... but i'm here cause i'm a lost noob looking for some help ;)
[07:38] <quibbler> Agion-> possibly you will get more help in #winehq
[07:39] <whatvn> aixenv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/175440/ put the lines to /etc/interfaces. I dont know if it works or not, just a thing to try
[07:39] <aixenv> ok
[07:39] <ultratek> i cannot login to swat through firefox as root
[07:39] <whatvn> aixenv: change ssid with yours
[07:39] <aixenv> k
[07:40] <razel_> why does my indexing always pops up? im using ubuntu jaunty.. im having trouble with my work.. thanks
[07:42] <mejobloggs> I'm trying to schedule an rsync between 2 locations i chmoded to 755, but I'm getting permission denied and have to run it as root: http://pastebin.com/d4b868da3 How can I make it run without root?
[07:44] <Titan8990> mejobloggs, is /media/filestore1 a unix filesystem?
[07:44] <aixenv> hrmm
[07:44] <mejobloggs> Titan8990: how do i find out?
[07:44] <raylu> mejobloggs: show us mount and ls -l /media/*
[07:45] <Titan8990> mejobloggs, if you didn't format yourself, then i doubt it is
[07:45] <aixenv> there has to be a way to "force" N from the client perspective, ya know like we would with ethtool for wired
[07:45] <mejobloggs>   /dev/sda1 on /media/filestore1 type ext3 (rw)
[07:45] <raylu> chetnick: we can help you with mplayer if you need it. i use it even in windows
[07:45] <Uplink> i just upgraded and kept the same menu.lst... now im using ubuntu 8.10, how can i fix this?
[07:46] <Titan8990> mejobloggs, and the other drive?
[07:46] <mejobloggs> oh yeah sorry.... /dev/sdc1 on /media/backupstore1 type ext3 (rw)
[07:46] <whatvn> aixenv: it don't work :D? I think you can try a tool, like wifi rada to force it uses N standard
[07:47] <aixenv> the tool is "wifi" ?
[07:47] <aixenv> ahh 'wifi-radar' found it
[07:47] <Titan8990> mejobloggs, try changing ownership: sudo chown -R mejobloggs:mejobloggs /media/filestore1
[07:47] <Titan8990> mejobloggs, also, you should take advantage of rsync's robust exclude options
[07:47] <Titan8990> mejobloggs, backing up a trash folder doesn't make much sense to me
[07:47] <mejobloggs> it looks like currenty they are owned by group 'nobody' and 'nogrou' or something
[07:48] <whatvn> aixenv: apt-get install wifi-radar
[07:48] <raylu> Titan8990: before that, ls -l output would be nice
[07:48] <aixenv> whatvn: yea got it :)
[07:48] <mejobloggs> Titan8990: i cant see the trash folder when i look, so i didnt realise it was there
[07:48] <aixenv> whatvn: trying to open it now
[07:48] <Titan8990> mejobloggs, you have to look with -a to show hidden
[07:48] <whatvn> aixenv: and hope it works :)
[07:48] <raylu> Titan8990: the trash folder is a backup of stuff you deleted; that in itself doesn't make much sense to me :D
[07:48] <raylu> Titan8990: also, -A will show hidden without showing .. and .
[07:48] <mejobloggs> ls -l here: http://pastebin.com/m26592d56
[07:48] <aixenv> hrmm "Failed to execute child process "su-to-root" (no such file or directory)".. googling
[07:49] <Titan8990> raylu, agreed hehe
[07:49] <whatvn> aixenv: wifi-radar will place in Application menu, in Internet
[07:49] <aixenv> yea thats what i clicked on :)
[07:50] <aixenv> i found a forum post that said i need to 'apt-get install menu' so testing that
[07:50] <whatvn> aixenv: what menu :|?
[07:50] <aixenv> yup that fixed it
[07:50] <aixenv>  just 'apt-get install menu'
[07:51] <Uplink> i need someones menu.lst please, if you have 9.04
[07:51] <Slart> Uplink: http://pastebin.com/f3a945ac3
[07:51] <mejobloggs> Titan8990: thankyou, changing owner worked :)
[07:52] <Uplink> ty Slart
[07:52] <Slart> Uplink: note that it probably wont work without some extensive modifications
[07:52] <aixenv> bah all you can configure is mode/channel/key/security
[07:52] <aixenv> altho it does show the speed
[07:52] <aixenv> says Mode : master / 802.11b
[07:52] <Slart> Uplink: or.. perhaps not so extensive.. but you need to change the uuid's for the root partition
[07:53] <Uplink> Slart: roger that
[07:53] <johar> morning. guys.. anyone knows how to install compiz atlantis plugin? :(
[07:53] <johar> doesnt' seem to be in apt-get sources
[07:54] <Slart> johar: ask in #compiz-fusion .. that's where the bling-bling'ers hang out =)
[07:54] <johar> Slart,  thanx :) gonna check it out .
[07:54] <whatvn> aixenv: I think you can config mode
[07:55] <johar> forwarded me back to compiz .. and no one is talking over there. .oh well. i'll keep googling
[07:55] <johar> yeah i have a question thats been pissing me off for a long time
[07:55] <aixenv> you can but its not A/B/G/N, its talking about master, repeater, etc
[07:55] <johar> whats the name of the new ubuntu?
[07:55] <Slart> johar: ah.. they change the channel name around.. it used to be compiz-fusion..
[07:56] <yoyit2> ubuntu + iphone, how?? (hint no ssh plz)
[07:56] <johar> yoyit2,  dual boot :P windows :P
[07:56] <johar> i have an iphone . easier this way :P
[07:56] <Slart> johar: but give it a little more time... people might wake up.. and it's called Jaunty Jackalope
[07:56] <Slart> !jaunty | johar
[07:56] <Madpilot> johar, the new one is Jaunty
[07:56] <johar> jaunty FINALLY.
[07:56] <whatvn> aixenv: hmmm
[07:56] <johar> thanx XD
[07:57] <yoyit2> johar: ick.. frigin windows :S
[07:57] <yoyit2> does anyone know how i can use my iphone with ubuntu?
[07:57] <Slart> !repeat
[07:57] <johar> yoyit2,  what do u wanna do with it  ?
[07:58] <aixenv> hrmm is right :P
[07:58] <yoyit2> just add music, and possibly movies
[07:58] <johar> u can manage ur files and everything in ssh
[07:58] <yoyit2> johar ^
[07:58] <johar> but the applications would be tough
[07:58] <johar> sbsettings is  a cool program
[07:59] <eross> ooo.. ssh works with iphone? that means i won't have to hack my iphone?
[07:59] <aixenv> maybe its related to using wpa2?
[07:59] <johar> eross,  just jail break it :P
[07:59] <aixenv> maybe i should flash this router and use dd-wrt
[07:59] <johar> its not hard to do
[07:59] <eross> does that break any warranties, not that they offered me any
[07:59] <yoyit2> johar thats fine cuz mine is jailbroken
[07:59] <johar> eross,  iclarified.com has step by step tutorials with pictures.
[08:00] <yoyit2> Johar :)
[08:00] <whatvn> aixenv: try last time, http://paste.ubuntu.com/175449/ . Delete lines I said before, add this new lines to /etc/network/interfaces. and restart network
[08:00] <johar> yowshi1, thats about it then :) connect through ssh .. and browse your phone and copy :P easy stuff :>
[08:00] <johar> i mean yoyit2
[08:00] <johar> or try wining ituneS?
[08:01] <johar> never tried that, i just got back to linux after 5 years of using windows -.-
[08:01] <johar> so can't help u with the new stuff
[08:01] <yoyit2> johar "wining itunes" ??
[08:01] <hskill> why can't i chmod +x foo.o and ./foo.o? an object file contains machine code instructions and is in the ELF format. why do i have to make it into an a.out file which is also just an executable elf format file?
[08:01] <johar> yoyit2,  wine
[08:01] <johar> with itunes
[08:01] <gumarti> please, when intalling ubuntu 9.4 in a windows xp machine, is there any partition reseze software or i need to use any other tool frist to prepare a free space on the hard driver?
[08:01] <yoyit2> johar would that work?
[08:02] <boyet> anybody knows why the root terminal is not working? i mean te link thing in applications
[08:02] <johar> gumarti,  i used paragon partition manager .. works like a charm
[08:02] <whatvn> gumarti: using parted
[08:02] <gumarti> parted is included?
[08:02] <whatvn> gumarti: in ubuntu cd
[08:02] <gumarti> yes
[08:02] <gumarti> ?
[08:03] <whatvn> gumarti: yes
[08:03] <johar> yeah.
[08:03] <Mylisto> hey everyone
[08:03] <johar> ello Mylisto
[08:03] <gumarti> i just downloaded ubuntu 9.4, and need to install with dual boot with windows xp machine
[08:04] <xci> my ubuntu seems to be of amd64-architecture, though my processor is intel's - is there a way to fix this? (most packages I install with for example dpkg I must use force-architecture)
[08:04] <Gourlis> Good morning everyone
[08:04] <whatvn> gumarti: then install it
[08:04] <gumarti> ok, parted is icluded i just need to boot from ubunto cd end it is ready to install, very nice!
[08:04] <leehac> sdas
[08:04] <whatvn> Gourlis: this is my evening
[08:05] <Gourlis> whatvn, this is my morning :D
[08:05] <Gourlis> 10:05 am
[08:05] <whatvn> Gourlis: :d
[08:05] <Gourlis> what time is there ?
[08:06] <whatvn> Gourlis: 2:005 PM
[08:06] <Slart> hskill: isn't .o files what you have before linking them?
[08:06] <eross> i'm going to have to install ubuntu over a previous install of another distro. My home directory is on a slave harddrive. Can I install ubuntu and somehow point my home dir to the slave partition?
[08:06] <Gourlis> +10 hours :P
[08:06] <aixenv> argh
[08:07] <aixenv> ill just try flashing with dd-wrt and see if i have better luck
[08:07] <whatvn> aixenv: did you try my solution?
[08:07] <aixenv> yes
[08:07] <aixenv> restarted network
[08:07] <yoyit2> wine running itunes SUCCESFULLY anyone have any pointers?
[08:07] <aixenv> still 54
[08:08] <Gourlis> yoyit2, I must to start working Wine one day :P
[08:08] <whatvn> aixenv: add these lines to /etc/network/interfaces. restart network and still 54Mbs?
[08:08] <aixenv> yea
[08:08] <Titan8990> !appdb | yoyit2
[08:08] <gumarti> my acer aspire bios have these sata options, ide or ahci, windows xp must be turned to ide, does ubuntu acept ahci mode natively?
[08:08] <zaggynl> finally, someone made a list: http://linuxfonts.narod.ru/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.html
[08:08] <whatvn> aixenv: oop, I don't have any idea, sorry
[08:08] <Gourlis> Thank you TItan8990 :D
[08:09] <aixenv> whatvn: thank you for the assist, ill install dd-wrt and take it from there
[08:09] <Titan8990> zaggynl, that article is old and subjective
[08:09] <whatvn> aixenv:  good luck :)
[08:10] <Titan8990> zaggynl, the last one especially make me laugh
[08:10] <mintux> which one suspend or hibernate it's better to use ? ( for using after come back to system )
[08:10] <Titan8990> zaggynl, because SMB is terrible
[08:10] <zaggynl> Written during April 30 2009 - May 18 2009
[08:10] <Titan8990> zaggynl, it was posted on slashdot well before that
[08:10] <wiherna> hey, how're u
[08:10] <Gourlis> zaggynl, that user who wrote it seems to be Bill Gates lover.
[08:10] <wiherna> i need some of help
[08:11] <whatvn> Gourlis: lol
[08:11] <Gourlis> :P
[08:11] <Titan8990> zaggynl, oh, your right, that is a different list
[08:11] <Titan8990> zaggynl, sorry
[08:11] <zaggynl> np
[08:11] <zaggynl> I like Linux, I really do, but that's a long list :(
[08:12] <Gourlis> simply, ignore the list :D
[08:12] <yoyit2> iphone sync with ubuntu so that it uses normal player, not pwn player?
[08:12] <wiherna> i'm colombian, and my english is some bad, but in the spanish chat isn't body, then, if you can help me... i've the follow mistake : E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[08:12] <wiherna> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[08:12] <wiherna>   and is nothing in google, can some body help me?
[08:13] <Titan8990> zaggynl, well a bunch of those fall under the "why linux doesn't belong in the enterprise workstation market"
[08:13] <Gourlis> ;-)
[08:13] <Titan8990> zaggynl, for example, why the hell would I need software policies on my laptop?
[08:13] <mejobloggs> Titan8990: since changing the owner, i can no longer create/delete files (filestore was a samba share). The share is set to guest access, so I dont understand why i cant
[08:14] <Titan8990> mejobloggs, you showed me earlier filestore was a real drive, formatted to ext3.... i dont understand
[08:14] <wiherna>  i'm colombian, and my english is some bad, but in the spanish chat isn't body, then, if you can help me... i've the follow mistake : E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
 E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
   and is nothing in google, can some body help me?
[08:14] <Titan8990> wiherna, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:14] <KB1JWQ> wind0pain: So run that command.
[08:15] <zaggynl> Titan8990: if your laptop was to be used in a AD like environment I'd say
[08:15] <LaZyFo0L> I am trying to install ubuntu 9.04 to a laptop, everything works fine execpt i cannot get the wireless internet working. also i currently donot have internet i am stealing it from my neighbor. :-D so i cant just plug it in and update, is there anyway i can download hardware drivers and burn them and instsall to laptop?
[08:15] <wiherna> yes titan 8990, but giveme error
[08:15] <Titan8990> zaggynl, yes, which applies to a business workstation setting, not a home desktop setting
[08:15] <wiherna> is the more obviously, but giveme error
[08:15] <Titan8990> zaggynl, I will agree linux is not ready for business workstations but it is plenty ready for the home user
[08:16] <mejobloggs> Titan8990: http://pastebin.com/m5ad7b591 i have this making them shared as well as it being a normal driver or whatever (i dont really understand, im pretty new to this)
[08:16] <Titan8990> mejobloggs, honestly
[08:16] <mejobloggs> ?
[08:16] <Titan8990> mejobloggs, i don't know much about windows or their crappy share protocol
[08:17] <mejobloggs> oh ok
[08:17] <Gourlis> If I sit down and write a book-list of Windows errors and problems you won't like Windows :D~
[08:17] <Titan8990> mejobloggs, I know that you can use a real rsync daemon in windows
[08:17] <mejobloggs> Titan8990: ok all good. Thanks very much for your help
[08:17] <Titan8990> mejobloggs, but unles you tar the files before sending them its going to bork your permissions storring them on a ntfs drive
[08:17] <Titan8990> mejobloggs, np
[08:17] <boyet> anybody knows why the root terminal is not working in accessories in 9.04?
[08:18] <Titan8990> boyet, do other applications that require gksu work?
[08:18] <LaZyFo0L> I am trying to install ubuntu 9.04 to a laptop, everything works fine execpt i cannot get the wireless internet working. also i currently donot have internet i am stealing it from my neighbor. :-D so i cant just plug it in and update, is there anyway i can download hardware drivers and burn them and instsall to laptop?
[08:19] <boyet> titan8998, i just wonder why but it doesnt anyway..any changes in previledges?
[08:19] <Titan8990> !op | LaZyFo0L
[08:20] <Madpilot> Titan8990, LaZyFo0L - hmm?
[08:20] <Slart> boyet: hmm.. I don't even have "root terminal" in accessories any more.. did you upgrade?
[08:20] <gnomefreak> Titan8990: ?
[08:20] <Gourlis> Slart, probably means Terminal :]
[08:21] <Ciros> o.O
[08:21] <Titan8990> Madpilot, wants help stealing internet from his neighbor...
[08:21] <gnomefreak> Titan8990: why did you call ops?
[08:21] <Slart> Gourlis: nah.. there used to be a shortcut to a terminal where you were already running as root
[08:21] <Titan8990> Madpilot, I am not sure exactly how you all handle that
[08:21] <cute_girl> huy
[08:21] <gnomefreak> Titan8990: that is not what he said
[08:21] <boyet> start, just edit your menu then find the system tools there you can find the root terminal and tick the bos
[08:21] <Titan8990> gnomefreak, alright, sorry, just won't touch it
[08:21] <boyet> box
[08:22] <Madpilot> Titan8990, if we removed everyone taking advantage of open wireless, there'd be a lot fewer people in this channel...
[08:22] <LaZyFo0L> i just got the laptop, its pretty old. I just want to get wirless working, I cant plug it in to the net cause i am stealing my net from my neighbor. I need the hardware driver so i can install it,
[08:22] <LaZyFo0L> is there anyplace i can download it from?
[08:22] <gnomefreak> Titan8990: he is looking for drivers. the fact that he is stealing a net connection could mean that either he is using wifi or the guy let him.
[08:22] <Kangarooo> hello how can I restore deleted files? Is there a file recovery on ubuntu with gui?
[08:23] <LaZyFo0L> the guy knows im using it.
[08:23] <LaZyFo0L> my net gets turned on next week
[08:23] <Slart> Kangarooo: check out.. photorec.. or search in synaptic for recover.. I'm not sure which ones use a gui though
[08:23] <Titan8990> gnomefreak, Madpilot, sorry for the bother, im just going to leave it alone
[08:23] <Gourlis> LaZyFo0L, it's ok don't mind. I have my router open so everyone can connect in my neighboor :D
[08:24] <gnomefreak> LaZyFo0L: either get the drivers from packages.ubuntu.com or install them on your Ubuntu PC from archives. atm you have a net connection so use it while you still can
[08:24]  * gnomefreak goes back to work
[08:25] <LaZyFo0L> thanks
[08:25] <Ciros> LaZyFo0L: if you know what wireless card you have, then you can download what you need, and then install it
[08:25] <boyet> yeah we have the root terminal icon but who cares if aint working but just wondering why..since we have many options to run as root in terminal
[08:26] <Kangarooo> Slart: ok photorec is only for photos??
[08:26] <Madpilot> boyet, which version of Ubuntu are you running? root terminal has been gone from the menus for quite a while
[08:26] <Slart> Kangarooo: nope.. it just started out as an app for recovering photos
[08:26] <Gourlis> gnomefreak, I can find anything on packages.ubuntu.com about my ATI Radeon graphics card ? :D
[08:26] <boyet> 9.04
[08:27] <Madpilot> Gourlis, what model of ati card?
[08:28] <Gourlis> Madpilot, ATI Radeon RS490M X1200 as I saw so far, isn't supported on Ubuntu 9.04 but I'm still searching.
[08:28] <Slart> boyet: I found an old shortcut in "system tools".. it points to "gksu /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator".. when I try to run that in another terminal I get "Failed to contact the GConf daemon; exiting."
[08:29] <LaZyFo0L> well hardware drivers says i need the broadcom b43 wireless driver.
[08:29] <boyet> slart: yeah thats it thats what i mean
[08:29] <Ciros> 9.04 only has a terminal unless you are talking about perhaps kubuntu  o.O  atleast my version doesnt have it
[08:29] <Chr|s> How do I change the color of text on panels? I forgot o.0
[08:30] <Gourlis> Madpilot, do you know anything about my problem?
[08:31] <Slart> boyet: I have no idea why it doesn't work.. perhaps the root user doesn't have all the config settings needed for running weird x stuff.. I can't run "gksudo gnome-terminal" either.. same error message
[08:31] <Madpilot> Gourlis, sorry, my ati card is quite a bit older - and fully supported with open-source drivers now
[08:31] <Slart> Chr|s: system, preferences, appearance... perhaps
[08:32] <Pingviller26> I just installed ubuntu server 9.04 on a test server, and then tried to get fluxbox to work.. which failed a bit, it starts and shows a desktop, quite dull one, but the menus can't start anything and nothing really happens while trying to do stuff inside fluxbox.. anyone know if I just installed an old package or if I'm missing something else?
[08:32] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: root term is in system tools you may have to enable it fro mainmenu menu item
[08:32] <Gourlis> Madpilot, on 9.04 when I put normal effects my screen flashes all the time. So, I don't know which drivers am I using now but am with No effects.
[08:33] <kraut> moin
[08:33] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, forgot that existed - I've got the whole System Tools sub-menu invisible, which is (I think?) stock setting for it
[08:34] <Madpilot> Gourlis, what does System->Admin->Hardware Drivers tell you?
[08:34] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: no it should be visable with at least one or 2 things
[08:34] <Gourlis> Madpilot, it shows out only wireless drivers.
[08:34] <Madpilot> gnomefreak, interesting, I must have disabled it at some point, because nearly everything in it is duplicated elsewhere
[08:35] <gnomefreak> now that is odd Madpilot
[08:35] <gnomefreak> by default gdebi and some others are there by defualt IIRC
[08:36] <gnomefreak> ironicly i use e16 more than i do gnome. shhh dont tell anyone ;)
[08:36] <Gourlis> Madpilot, it shows out only 1 point,  wireless drivers.
[08:36] <Madpilot> true, gdebi is there - but double-clicking on a .deb launches that nicely
[08:36] <shyam> CarlFK: finally got it working!;-)
[08:36] <gnomefreak> Madpilot: yep it does but i dont think i have ever used it
[08:37] <Madpilot> Gourlis, you might be out of luck for 3d support for your card for now, then
[08:37] <Gourlis> Madpilot, I'm hopping with ubuntu's next release my drivers get fixed!
[08:37] <Gourlis> :]
[08:37] <gnomefreak> gregL: what card?
[08:38] <gnomefreak> oops sorry gregL
[08:38] <gnomefreak> Gourlis: what card? and yes ati support isnt all that great
[08:38] <Gourlis> gnomefreak, ATI Radeon RS490M X1200. On 8.04 was detected. on 9.04 no luck!
[08:39] <Bodsda> Is it possible to install linux (not necessarily ubuntu) or run the live cd without the use of 'any' removeable media?
[08:39] <stxing> what kind of video cards is best supported by Ubuntu?Intel?nvidia?
[08:39] <gnomefreak> Gourlis: that shouldnt have changed did it work on 8.10 by chance?
[08:39] <boyet> slart: some policy changes i think in debian folk?
[08:39] <microcai> Bodsda: the answer is yes
[08:39] <Gourlis> gnomefreak, yeah also worked on 8.10
[08:40] <Slart> boyet: possible
[08:40] <Bodsda> microcai: cool, got links to any documentation about it?
[08:40] <Kangarooo> Slart: oh ok I found and its not gui but.. I don't know.. its in terminal working but I can movewith up down selection.. and can I add one more search posibility? it doesn't gives possibility to search .js files :(
[08:40] <LaZyFo0L> i run nvidia 9800 gtx with 9.04 and have no problems with anything, i play counterstrike source with 60 fps in wine.
[08:40] <gnomefreak> Gourlis: than it shouldnt be a problem did you install them using hardware devices or using synaptic/apt/dpkg?
[08:40] <whatvn> Gourlis: did you try envyng-core?
[08:40] <Gourlis> gnomefreak, I didn't want to stay out of updates and releases so I upgraded on 9.04 as I do always but no luck of support on 9.04.
[08:40] <microcai> Bodsda: I've wrote it . but that's not in english
[08:40] <Bodsda> stxing: not necessarily supported 'by' ubuntu but nvidia do an excellent job of providing linux drivers
[08:40] <Bodsda> microcai: got any english linkies?
[08:41] <boyet> slart: it doenst matter anyway since we have many options to run as root...thanks
[08:41] <microcai> Bodsda: Do you know how to use GURB ?
[08:41] <Gourlis> gnomefreak & whatvn, No I'm a newbie on ubuntu I don't know much that's why am searching all the time. :]
[08:41] <Slart> Kangarooo: there are some other programs that work in the same way... try one of the other hits from synaptic..
[08:41] <Bodsda> microcai: I know the basics of editing menu.lst yeah
[08:41] <Slart> boyet: true.. you're welcome
[08:41] <whatvn> Gourlis: sudo aptitude install envyng-core
[08:42] <microcai> Bodsda: If you know how to use GRUB then it will be very esay for you to run a buuntu from a iso file
[08:42] <Gourlis> whatvn, are you sure it will solve my problem ?
[08:42] <gnomefreak> Gourlis: in gnome open System>admin>hardware drivers and it should give you a choice.
[08:42] <gnomefreak> jockey is installed by default
[08:42] <Gourlis> gnomefreak, oh there it shows only my wireless drivers. 1 point actually.
[08:42] <whatvn> Gourlis: I'm not sure about everything :-p
[08:43] <gnomefreak> Gourlis: i cant be sure until you try it. I got rid of my ATI cards before this was an option in jockey
[08:43] <microcai> Bodsda: just extart vmlinuz and initrd.gz form /casper of the ubuntu iso file
[08:43] <Gourlis> gnomefreak, I tried it, it shows only wireless drivers there.
[08:43] <gnomefreak> Gourlis: ok thats odd i never got wireless drivers in there. maybe install the package above the envy one and see if it helps
[08:43] <Bodsda> microcai: nvm i found an easier way, ty
[08:44] <microcai> Bodsda: and copy that 2 file to whatever GRUB can find
[08:44] <Gourlis> alright gnomefreak =]
[08:44] <Xangavizike> Aloha brotha'z
[08:44] <Gourlis> whatvn, let's try!
[08:44] <whatvn> Gourlis: :)
[08:44] <Xangavizike> Hozsanna dicsoseges testvereim
[08:44] <Gourlis> whatvn, don't go out a! :P I don't know what to do next. hah
[08:45] <whatvn> Gourlis: there's no step next
[08:45] <Stargaze> trace me please and see what you find, i'm testing something
[08:45] <Gourlis> whatvn, I did the command you said. Now what am I doing ? :P
[08:46] <whatvn> Gourlis: install finish?
[08:46] <Gourlis> whatvn, yes.
[08:46] <whatvn> reboot
[08:46] <Gourlis> alright
[08:46] <Gourlis> brb!
[08:46] <NvidiaUser> Can anyone help me get compiz going on Ubuntu 9.04? I don't see it under the menu.
[08:47] <Titan8990> NvidiaUser, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:47] <whatvn> NvidiaUser: run compiz from terminal
[08:47] <Titan8990> whatvn, don't you still need to install the configuration utility?
[08:48] <whatvn> yes
[08:48] <NvidiaUser> installing it right now.
[08:48] <NvidiaUser> ah okay I see.
[08:48] <whatvn> Titan8990: I'm not disagree with u :p
[08:48] <Slart> Stargaze: nothing fun.. just the regular output
[08:49] <Pingviller26> I just installed ubuntu server 9.04 on a test server, and then tried to get fluxbox to work.. which failed a bit, it starts and shows a desktop, quite dull one, but the menus can't start anything and nothing really happens while trying to do stuff inside fluxbox.. anyone know if I just installed an old package or if I'm missing something else?
[08:49] <Gourlis> whatvn, I did the reboot :P
[08:49] <whatvn> Gourlis: how?
[08:49] <Gourlis> whatvn, let me check if I can enable 3D effects.
[08:49] <whatvn> Gourlis: and it works?
[08:49] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, you probably also need to install xorg although I can't stress enough how unnecessary what you are doing is.
[08:50] <Gourlis> whatvn, I can use 3D effects, but ok still my screen flashes a bit :P
[08:50] <NvidiaUser> FOr the cube won't I have to enable 2 more virtual desktops?
[08:50] <Pingviller26> Titan8990: yes I know, desktop for a server, however I kinda enjoy being able to browse for stuff whenever shit does hit the fan
[08:50] <Pingviller26> and yes, installed xorg
[08:51] <Amaranth> NvidiaUser: no, virtual desktops are not what you want
[08:51] <whatvn> Gourlis: so it works?
[08:51] <Gourlis> whatvn, yeah :)
[08:51] <whatvn> Gourlis: :p
[08:51] <Gourlis> whatvn, nice work dude :P
[08:51] <whatvn> Gourlis: my luck :p
[08:52] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, did you generate a xorg.conf or install hal?
[08:52] <Gourlis> whatvn, from where can I see that envy-core is installed ? :P
[08:52] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, typically your server will have no monitor mouse and keyboard, and you just conduct your business from your desktop
[08:52] <yoyit2> im trying to edit a system file.. how do i do this without getting blocked "dont have permissions" i think theres a way to open it through terminal
[08:52] <whatvn> Gourlis: I never care where it's before :|
[08:52] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, making a gui actually on the server worthless
[08:53] <Pingviller26> Titan8990: I just did "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core", not sure how to generate an xorg.conf
[08:53] <whatvn> Gourlis: but try envy-core from terminal
[08:53] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, especially since guis for server configuration are nearly non-existant
[08:53] <NvidiaUser> yoyit I'm new to linux but: sudo gedit filename ?
[08:53] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, yes, xserver-xorg is the meta package
[08:53] <brian__> im trying to restart x without logging out.  I'm on using 9.04 and ctrl-backspace is disabled
[08:53] <Gourlis> whatvn, Oh :P Because when I use any effects some windows doesn't have Minimize tool or move it around :P
[08:53] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, did you edit your .xinitrc to launch the wm?
[08:54] <whatvn> Gourlis: you're using compiz?
[08:54] <Pingviller26> Titan8990: nope, I just type "startx" to get it up whenever I do need the desktop manager
[08:54] <Gourlis> whatvn, dunno. Ubuntu 9.04 by default
[08:55] <yoyit2> how do i edit a system file without having restrictions?
[08:55] <brian__> use sudo
[08:55] <whatvn> Gourlis: no ideas :p
[08:55] <Gourlis> whatvn, actually I can't move the terminal only ;p but nevermind
[08:55] <yoyit2> brian__ sudo what the full comand?
[08:55] <PrebenR> acipd when started during boot, it is not running as any user. If I do a /etc/init.d/acpid restart it becomes user root. My problem is that when the acpid runns with no users, my scripts are not working properly. Should it run as no user?
[08:55] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, sudo -i will give you a root shell, sudo nano /path/to/file will let you edit a file unrestricted
[08:55] <Gourlis> whatvn, thanks for your help :) 95% am better than before.
[08:56] <yoyit2> whats the nano part for?
[08:56] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, nano is the text editor..
[08:56] <Gourlis> whatvn, all works now lol i set the theme again.
[08:56] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, if you need a GUI text editor try gksudo gedit /path/to/file
[08:56] <yoyit2> Geek`N`Proud: thx
[08:56] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, but its not working correct?
[08:57] <whatvn> Gourlis: I got this error when using compiz, and my solution is comment out my video card in blacklist
[08:57] <Gourlis> whatvn, I set again my theme and all works now. Try it
[08:57] <yoyit2> Geek`N`Proud: so sudo<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:57] <NvidiaUser> I can't get the compiz desktop cube to work...
[08:57] <Pingviller26> Titan8990: nope, the menus are dead, nothing happens when I try to launch applications
[08:58] <whatvn> Gourlis: no, my ubuntu is working well, with nice theme. better than windows 7 or vista :))
[08:58] <yoyit2> Geek`N`Proud: ??
[08:58] <Gourlis> whatvn, I hate Microsoft ;D
[08:59] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, nope.. for that you need to be sftp'ed into that server as root
[08:59] <whatvn> Gourlis: and I love everything :p
[08:59] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, that file is on a remote server, so you'd need to be root@ to modify system files on that..
[09:00] <Gourlis> whatvn, The truth is that I am using Windows Vista until I finish from the University, after I finish. A complete format will take action and a fresh copy of Ubuntu will get installed. :D
[09:00] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, try SSHing into it, then run sudo nano on that file from inside the shell on that server
[09:00] <gumarti> my english is not very good, i am installing ubuntu 9.04 in brazillian portuguese, the instalation found windows xp pro, and i chose dualboot, it is copping the ubuntu system files, but the instalation does not asked me for partition parametres, with size of partitions does the instalation created, why dosent gparted apeared to me? where is the ubuntu files? does ubuntu resized ntfs?
[09:01] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, oh
[09:01] <Geek`N`Proud> gumarti, there's a brazillian channel which can help you methinks =]
[09:01] <Geek`N`Proud> !br > gumarti
[09:01] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, that is likely a misconfiguration or lack of configuration of the window manager
[09:01] <Geek`N`Proud> !br | gumarti
[09:01] <yoyit2> Geek`N`Proud: im pretty new to ubuntu, so could you give me a path example?
[09:01] <Geek`N`Proud> that's the one!
[09:01] <gumarti> please, where is brazilian chanel?
[09:01] <Flannel> !br | gumarti
[09:01] <Pingviller26> Titan8990: sounds probable yes, not sure how to fix it
[09:01] <whatvn> Gourlis: I know, and we must work with many clients using Windows, so it's difficult to have Windows. and I think me and you must stop chatting now, or receive warning :p
[09:01] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, the path you gave was to a file that is not on your computer
[09:02] <gumarti> ok! thaks very much, going to brazil, bye!
[09:02] <yoyit2> Geek`N`Proud:  correct, here is the full path<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:02] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, which window manager are you using?
[09:02] <Pingviller26> Titan8990: I'm not that good with the terminal interface, that's why I want a desktop manager, so I can use gedit or similar visual text editors, whatever is available for fluxbox
[09:02] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, yes.. so you're trying to edit that file as the "mobile" user.. which doesn't have permissions
[09:02] <Gourlis> whatvn, lol I'll go out for a few hours. See you around whatvn! :)
[09:02] <Pingviller26> Titan8990: right now I changed to blackbox, in hopes it would work better, but I'm missing something
[09:02] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, its not going to have anything you don't add to it
[09:03] <yoyit2> Geek`N`Proud: ok?? so what can i do?
[09:03] <Pingviller26> Titan8990: I know
[09:03] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, same with blackbox
[09:03] <whatvn> Gourlis: see you!
[09:03] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, what you need to do is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:03] <acerbus> I'm trying to configure in.tftpd through xinetd. The server runs as intended, but I'm trying to change the default umask on the files put into that dir. Earlier, "in.tftpd -U <umask>" worked, but the tftpd version installed from the repository doesn't seem to have the -U options. Any ideas on how I can change the default umask on files put into the tftp dir?
[09:03] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, and honestly
[09:03] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, scrap the gui and install webmin
[09:03] <yoyit2> Geek`N`Proud: just type that in terminal?
[09:03] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, it actually contains server config utilities unlike the gui
[09:03] <ross_> hey guys...I screwed up my video...ati card tried to install fglrx, is there a way to go back to the origianl video that was working?
[09:04] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, no you don't need the terminal if you have a root password on the server you are trying to connect to
[09:04] <ross_> Ubuntu 9.04
[09:04] <yoyit2> Geek`N`Proud: i think i do (its an iphone)
[09:04] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, okay try that with root@ as opposed to mobile@
[09:05] <whatvn> yoyit2: you can connect to iphone using ssh, I think
[09:05] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, if you don't have a root password then try ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and login to the shell on it
[09:05] <xukun> is there a way send all sound to the spdif?
[09:05] <ross_> Is there a way to re-install original installation video install without doing a complete re-installation?
[09:05] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, (ssh is a terminal command)
[09:06] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, after that try sudo -i from the mobile's shell.. that will give you root - I don't know if the iphone would have a text editor or not
[09:06] <Brian88> Hi, I am having an error with ubuntu 8.04 which installed by wubi. when I boot the error is : find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ubuntu/install/boot/grub/menu.lst   Error 15: File not found
[09:06] <whatvn> ross_ you can, if you know exactly what files missed. but it's difficult
[09:06] <Brian88> could you help me? or just copy your current menu.lst to the pastebin so I just copy it. thanks
[09:06] <Geek`N`Proud> Brian88, GRUB installation failed.. just try an uninstall/reinstall of it
[09:07] <yoyit2> Geek`N`Proud: both times it said no file or directory
[09:07]  * LaZyFo0L apologises for asking in the irc chat before i googled. :-P wireless works perfect now.
[09:07] <ross_> shoot...followed rm fglrx instructions, but now I have blue screen on that machine.
[09:07] <ross_> I can boot to prompt
[09:07] <Geek`N`Proud> yoyit2, okay try ssh'ing into the iphone
[09:07] <yoyit2> Geek`N`Proud:  ok im lost.. what??
[09:08] <whatvn> ross_ , at the grub menu, try to boot into single mode
[09:08] <Brian88> Geek`N`Proud: Could you paste your /ubuntu/install/boot/grub/menu.lst to here (or to http://paste.ubuntu.com) so i just modify it? Thanks
[09:08] <Pingviller26> Titan8990: well then I gotta buy another machine and I just can't afford that, scrap the "no-gui on server"-talk mate :P a server is just a computer with a slightly different purpose, it's a cheap server hardware for a test environment only, and gui just makes me feel better than sitting in terminal windows all day long trying to remember the commands. plus I really don't like nano for text...
[09:08] <Pingviller26> ...editing, I work alot faster with mouse support than without it
[09:08] <PrebenR> acipd when started during boot, it is not running as any user. If I do a /etc/init.d/acpid restart it becomes user root. My problem is that when the acpid runns with no users, my scripts are not working properly. Should it run as no user?
[09:08] <yoyit2> Geek`N`Proud: like going to the "finder" and looking at the file checkpoint.xml?
[09:08] <Pingviller26> Titan8990: and the reason for fluxbox/blackbox is just that it's lightweight, so it doesn't really affect the system anyway
[09:08] <Titan8990> Pingviller26, then why not save yourself the trouble, install desktop ubuntu and then install the server kernel?