[00:03] <PriceChild> rabbits rabbits rabbits
[00:24] <tonyyarusso> badger badger badger
[00:29] <PriceChild> mushroom mushroom
[00:31] <stdin> ubottu's server is back up now
[00:39] <nickrud> !firefox3
[00:39] <ubott2> Factoid firefox3 not found
[00:39] <nickrud> !ff3
[00:39] <ubott2> Firefox 3 Final is currently in the Hardy package repositories.  For best results, do not install via archives downloaded from mozilla.com.
[00:39] <nickrud> !firefox3 is <alias> ff3
[00:39] <ubott2> In #ubuntu-ops, nickrud said: !firefox3 is <alias> ff3
[00:39] <nickrud> @btlogin
[00:39] <nickrud> !firefox3 is <alias> ff3
[00:39] <ubott2> I know nothing about firefox3 is <alias> ff yet, nickrud
[00:40] <nickrud> grrrrrrr
[00:40] <stdin> nickrud: there's no point in adding anything, when ubottu comes back it won't be there
[00:41] <nickrud> alright, I'll wonder about the 3 getting dropped from ff3 later
[00:44] <PriceChild> For best results, install from the ubuntu repositories rather than mozilla.com?
[00:44] <nickrud> sounds good to me. I was just trying to get firefox3 to not say that beta5 was in the repos.
[00:46] <PriceChild> !no ff3 is <reply> Firefox 3 Final is currently in the Hardy package repositories.  For best results, do not install via archives  downloaded from mozilla.com
[00:46] <ubott2> I'll remember that PriceChild
[00:46] <PriceChild> gah
[00:46] <PriceChild> !no ff3 is <reply> Firefox 3 Final is currently in the Hardy package repositories.  For best results, install via the ubuntu repositories rather than directly from mozilla.com
[00:46] <PriceChild> !firefox is foo
[00:46] <ubott2> But firefox already means something else!
[00:46] <PriceChild> !firefox3 is foo
[00:46] <ubott2> But firefox3 already means something else!
[00:47] <PriceChild> !firefox3
[00:47] <ubott2> Factoid firefox3 not found
[00:47] <PriceChild> !unforget firefox3
[00:47] <ubott2> I suddenly remember firefox3 again, PriceChild
[00:47] <PriceChild> !no firefox3 is <alias> ff3
[00:47] <ubott2> I'll remember that PriceChild
[00:47] <nickrud> PriceChild, note you're doing that to ubott2, std in noted any changes here will be lost
[00:47] <nickrud> !firefox3
[00:47] <ubott2> Firefox 3 Final is currently in the Hardy package repositories.  For best results, install via the ubuntu repositories rather than directly from mozilla.com
[00:47] <nickrud> magnificent :)
[00:47] <PriceChild> nickrud: Why didn't you tell me that first :)
[00:48] <PriceChild> nickrud: well I guess you know how to fix it when ubottu comes back ;)
[00:48] <nickrud> yeah, it was strange that !firefox3 was no factoid, but trying to change it said it was something else. No appears to have more force
[00:49] <PriceChild> nickrud: you need to unforget it most likely
[00:49] <nickrud> yes, I'll remember that texas 2 step :)
[01:04] <mneptok> Hobbsee: pong
[01:08] <bazhang> am guessing that the australasian day is about 3 hours ahead of where I am; try to watch, but am more reticent of late to see if someone really *is* a troll or just a confused newer user. Not always easy to tell :)
[01:11] <I440r_> how can i make an ubuntu system that has had roots password set (and thus the root account enabled) allow a login as root from the login screen?
[01:11] <mneptok> I440r_: wrong channel.
[01:11] <bazhang> I440r_, ask in #ubuntu
[01:11] <I440r_> aha ya
[01:11] <I440r_> it auto forwarded me here
[01:11] <mneptok> I440r_: and you don't want to set a root password
[01:12] <I440r_> probably because i called one of the operators in there anally retentive lol
[01:12] <bazhang> I440r_, you are banned there?
[01:12] <I440r_> mneptok, i know the official ubuntu polcy on that issue but in this case security is a complete non issue
[01:12] <I440r_> im guessing i AM banned
[01:13] <mneptok> I440r_: it's still a bad idea. and there's no good reason to use it.
[01:13] <bazhang> !coc | I440r_ read this
[01:13] <ubott2> I440r_ read this: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[01:13] <nalioth> personal attacks aren't very friendly
[01:13] <bazhang> !guidelines | I440r_ and this
[01:13] <ubott2> I440r_ and this: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:13] <I440r_> mneptok, i agree with you ontthe "its not needed" but in a way right now it is
[01:14] <mneptok> I440r_: "sudo -i" not work for you?
[01:14] <I440r_> no. the root access has to be allowed on the desktop in this instance...
[01:15] <I440r_> security is a non issue. is there a file i can edit to allow root to log in on the login screen?
[01:15] <bazhang> this is not a support channel I440r_
[01:20] <bazhang> I440r_, normally when someone is banned, they see about getting unbanned-->which means reading the docs above, and discussing with the person who banned them.
[01:21] <bazhang> @login
[01:21] <ubott2> bazhang: The operation succeeded.
[01:22] <bazhang> @btlogin
[01:22] <bazhang> bantracker appears to be down
[01:23] <bazhang> I440r_, do you know why you were banned? and who did the banning?
[01:24] <stdin> bazhang: that's because ubott2 is not ubottu
[01:24] <bazhang> stdin, thanks :)
[01:28] <bazhang> I440r_, if you are not seeking such resolution (ie ban adjudication/removal) then this is a no idle channel.
[01:28] <I440r_> bazhang, i was banned because i asked "is anyone awake" and an oper gave one of the "anally retentive" canned replies
[01:28] <I440r_> sorry had to step afk for a sec
[01:28] <I440r_> and i was and still am under alot of pressure to make things work that WILL NOT work.
[01:28] <I440r_> so i kinda lost it
[01:29] <I440r_> brb...
[01:29] <bazhang> who did the banning i44
[01:30] <stdin> bazhang: I took the authentication off the tracker, you should be able to use it now
[01:31] <bazhang> thanks stdin :)
[01:31] <I440r_> bazhang, ive no idea
[01:31] <I440r_> ive not tried getting back in there for about a week
[01:32] <bazhang> @btlogin
[01:33] <bazhang> I440r_, what user name were you under
[01:34] <stdin> bazhang: search for the IP on the tracker
[01:37] <bazhang> http://paste.ubuntu.com/24113/ this was the incident in question<---j-rib did the honors
[01:41] <bazhang> I440r_, reading that pastebin bears out why you were banned.
[01:44] <bazhang> I440r_, if you are not interested in resolving this without extended afk's, best to just /part this channel.
[01:47] <I440r_> sorry, i want to resolve it but im at work so it will have to wait
[01:47] <I440r_> ill get back with you when i actually have time to resolve :)
[01:47] <I440r_> thanks
[01:52] <|v|4s7e|2> i need help, im new to linux scripting and i need to create a script
[01:52] <bazhang> |v|4s7e|2, #ubuntu is the support channel
[01:53] <|v|4s7e|2> bazhang: ppl in ##linux r no help
[01:53] <ganjaman> i cant join ubuntu offtopic
[01:53] <ganjaman> someone banned the whole subnet
[01:53] <|v|4s7e|2> yeah, for me to
[01:53] <ganjaman> i have no glue what happen
[01:54] <|v|4s7e|2> im banned in ##linux
[01:54] <ganjaman> last i was there 2 weeks ago
[01:54] <bazhang> ganjaman, no, you were banned.
[01:54] <|v|4s7e|2> bazhang: im banned from EVERYTHING
[01:55] <stdin> |v|4s7e|2: you were forwarded here because of your quit message from the looks of it
[01:55] <|v|4s7e|2> crap
[01:55] <ganjaman> my quit message is /quit message from sam
[01:55] <|v|4s7e|2> ok well i guess i have to wait now
[01:56] <bazhang> ganjaman, ompaul banned you; as he is not here now, you should /part the channel and come back in about 6 hrs.
[01:56] <ganjaman> who is ompaul?
[01:56] <ganjaman> i have no clue why
[01:56] <ganjaman> maybe i was stoned or so
[01:56] <stdin> ganjaman: talking about drugs is not ok, even in -offtopic
[01:56] <|v|4s7e|2> its a 48hr wait for a ban, right?
[01:57] <ganjaman> yeah i was talking in drugs in /dev/null
[01:57] <bazhang> |v|4s7e|2, please dont idle here; you need to wait til the period is over before getting it lifted.
[01:57] <m-c> there may be a flood bot issue in #ubuntu - maybe some cranky person there too  okay, good luck
[01:57] <ganjaman> ok i get out ,
[01:57] <bazhang> ganjaman, you need to discuss it with him; idling here will not help your cause.
[01:58] <|v|4s7e|2> bazhang, what is that period, ill leave then
[01:58] <ganjaman> ok i discuss in a few hours
[01:58] <ganjaman> if om comes
[01:58] <bazhang> ganjaman, please exit this channel
[01:58] <bazhang> |v|4s7e|2, this was yesterday, correct?
[01:58] <danc3> ?
[01:59] <|v|4s7e|2> bazhang, early today
[01:59] <bazhang> danc3, may we help you?
[01:59] <stdin> 2008-06-30 16:55:36 UTC
[01:59] <danc3> hello OPS's..., yes, bazhang :  do you know the floodbots are battling in #ubuntu?
[02:00] <bazhang> danc3, it is noted; thanks for the update
[02:00] <danc3> one bot keeps setting +J, and then the other immediately sets -J, repeat ad nauseum
[02:00] <bazhang> danc3, they have achieved sentience.
[02:00] <danc3> heh
[02:00] <bazhang> :)
[02:00] <danc3> it's actually causing flooding by the FloodBots
[02:01] <ubott2> _2 called the ops in #ubuntu (FloodBot2 & FloodBot4 seem to be in a recursive loop, creating a lot of spam)
[02:01] <danc3> yes, a LOT
[02:01] <nalioth> aw crap
[02:01] <bazhang> danc3, put them on /ignore :)
[02:01] <danc3> not a bad idea
[02:01] <nalioth> no
[02:01] <nalioth> there is a problem.
[02:02] <danc3> indeed
[02:02] <stdin> bazhang: /ignore doesn't ignore channel modes
[02:02] <bazhang> understating thinks a bit
[02:02] <stdin> *mode changes
[02:02] <nalioth> let's see what happens
[02:02]  * bazhang points danc3 to the /topic :)
[02:02] <danc3> why have 2 FB's in the first place?  Isn't one enough?
[02:03] <stdin> |v|4s7e|2: I'd suggest you come back in around 12 hours
[02:03] <stdin> danc3: redundancy
[02:03] <|v|4s7e|2> ok, c yall later
[02:03] <nalioth> danc3: we have 3. it is for redundancy and network latency checksumming
[02:03] <danc3> ok
[02:03] <danc3> looks like it might be fixed
[02:04] <danc3> thanks
[02:04] <nalioth> i had a feeling this was gonna happen
[02:04] <danc3> looks like FB3 has laid down the law
[02:05] <danc3> okey, buh bye
[02:07] <nalioth> now they're all in emergency mode
[02:08] <bazhang> who knew the moon could affect bots
[02:11] <nalioth> LjL: when you see this, can you restart your floodbot?
[02:34] <I440r_> ok, now i need to get my ban resolved because im trying to install ndis wrapper and its telling me "ndiswrapper-utils not installed" yet when i got to install them it tells me that it has no installation candidate because its deprecated
[02:35] <I440r_> nvm i figured it out
[02:36] <I440r_> apt-get install ndis-wrapper-utils tells u install ndiswrapper-common which then refuses to run because ndis-wraper-utils isnt installed. you have to install ndis-wrapper-utils-1.9
[02:36] <I440r_> errr ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 even
[02:36] <I440r_> ty :)
[02:43] <bazhang> have to step out for a few; will be back in a couple of hrs or thereabouts.
[02:51] <ubott2> hwilde called the ops in #ubuntu (chetan_)
[05:31] <Hobbsee> !logs
[05:31] <Hobbsee> no bots at all?
[05:36] <nickrud> !test
[06:09] <Myrtti> errrr
[06:10] <Myrtti> !test
[06:10] <Myrtti> @login
[06:12] <Myrtti> what the hell
[06:13] <nickrud> so, who's gonna provide a nice, centralized, bot server ;)
[06:14] <Myrtti> oh shuddup
[06:14] <Myrtti> sorry
[06:15] <Myrtti> I just wonder what I just did
[06:16] <Myrtti> but...
[06:16] <Myrtti> Disk /dev/sda1 doesn't contain a valid partition table
[06:16] <Myrtti> doesn't really seem that good
[06:17] <Myrtti> HO --- HUM
[06:20] <nickrud> herm
[06:21] <Myrtti> and I need to leave to Helsinki in >2h and I've not even showered yet
[06:21] <Myrtti> pardon moi, but FFS
[06:22] <Myrtti> this isn't exactly going well
[06:22] <Myrtti> !test
[06:23] <nickrud> Myrtti if you're messing with getting the bot running, let someone else do it </unsolicited advice>
[06:24] <Myrtti> well from the looks of it it might just be that my whole virtual server is borked
[06:24] <Myrtti> so "someone else" is the Jackass
[06:24] <nickrud> ah, bummer
[06:26] <Myrtti> YEAH.
[06:26] <Myrtti> I'm going to run to have a quick shower and come back
[06:27] <Myrtti> I might be able to get her online from somewhere else
[06:36] <Myrtti> this isn't really going on so well
[06:36] <Myrtti> forgot my towel
[06:36] <Myrtti> DAMNIT
[06:42] <Tm_T> hrrrr
[06:43]  * Myrtti crosses her fingers
[06:44] <Myrtti> WORK WORK WORK WORK WORK WORK WORK
[06:44] <Hobbsee> it won't.
[06:44] <Myrtti> MWHAHAHAHA
[06:44] <Myrtti> MAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA
[06:44] <Tm_T> Myrtti: forget the bot, if it doesn work in 0900, you have other things to worry ;)
[06:44] <Myrtti> HTH, HAND
[06:44]  * Tm_T hugs Myrtti
[06:44] <Myrtti> Tm_T: I'd hug xob
[06:44] <Myrtti> :-D
[06:44] <Tm_T> heh
[06:45] <Tm_T> Myrtti: hmm, what, there's something?!
[06:45] <Myrtti> ♥
[06:45] <Tm_T> yay
[06:45] <Myrtti> I just love kapsi
[06:45] <Tm_T> <3
[06:46] <danroj> hi
[06:46] <danroj> en el canal #ubuntu-es estan haciendo flood
[06:46] <bazhang> hi danroj ; how may we help
[06:46] <bazhang> oh.
[06:50] <bazhang> hello Ziroday
[06:50] <Ziroday> hi
[06:50] <Ziroday> any news on the bots?
[06:50] <Ziroday> ah great
[06:50] <nickrud> !test
[06:50] <ubott2> Failed!
[06:50] <bazhang> take a look in #ubuntu
[06:50] <Ziroday> thanks all
[06:50] <danroj> 1list
[06:50] <Ziroday> bazhang: just saw it :)
[06:50] <danroj> 1list
[06:50] <danroj> !list
[06:50] <ubott2> Hi! I'm #ubuntu-ops's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://tinyurl.com/5zfb6t - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:51] <danroj> O.O
[06:51] <bazhang> danroj, /j #ubuntu-irc
[06:54]  * Myrtti curtseys
[06:55]  * nickrud bows to the queen
[06:55] <Myrtti> pft, hardly
[06:55] <Myrtti> I only live to serve
[06:56] <nickrud> the true sign of royalty :)
[06:56] <Myrtti> moneys, glasses, tickets, laptop, guineapigs cables...
[06:56] <Myrtti> TRAVELING SICKNESS MEDS
[06:59] <Myrtti> Tm_T: PING
[07:01] <Myrtti> Tm_T: nevermind
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> Man, why do so many things store passwords in plaintext in .gconf?
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> Rhythmbox, telepathy, gnome-do, gtwitter, banshee, ekiga, and epiphany all do.
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> At least Evolution has the decency to hash them.
[07:32] <bazhang> tomasko
[07:34] <jussi01> Myrtti: awake?
[07:34] <Tm_T> Myrtti: hmm?
[07:34] <Tm_T> jussi01: welcome back and good morning sir
[07:34] <Tm_T> Myrtti: she's on bus/train
[07:34] <jussi01> Tm_T: Im going to call you in a moment, be ready :)
[07:34] <Tm_T> jussi01: even
[07:35] <Tm_T> jussi01: arrr, roger sir, I just brush my teeth ;)
[07:35] <jussi01> oh, ok.
[07:36] <Tm_T> jussi01: myrtti had (virtual)server failure or some
[07:36] <jussi01> Tm_T: really?
[07:36] <jussi01> !test
[07:36] <ubott2> Failed!
[07:36] <jussi01> seems ok right now...
[07:36] <Tm_T> 827.09 <+Myrtti> I might be able to get her online from somewhere else
[07:37] <jussi01> oh.  Over winter they shouldnt do anything...
[07:52] <jussi01> :D
[07:55] <jussi01> !ping
[07:55] <jussi01> :)
[07:57] <Myrtti> are we done
[07:58] <Myrtti> great
[07:58]  * Myrtti starts to munch her brunch
[08:02] <nickrud> @login
[08:10]  * Myrtti kicks kapsi's bitlbee
[08:31] <Myrtti> I SO hate traveling sickeness
[08:31] <Myrtti> I hate pendolinos
[08:32] <jussi01> *hugs*
[08:33]  * nickrud imagines big, bilious ocean swells
[08:33] <Myrtti> leisurly op abuse is bad, isn't it?
[08:34] <jussi01> hehe
[08:34] <jussi01> what?
[08:34] <Myrtti> ....
[08:34] <jussi01> Myrtti: who is abusing you?
[08:35] <Myrtti> 7emp nickrud
[08:35] <Myrtti> "woops"
[08:35] <jussi01> :P
[08:35] <nickrud> moi?
[08:35] <Myrtti> /me takes out her emp cannon and points at nickrud
[08:35] <bazhang> dont understand the attraction to making up problems to waste people's time on #ubuntu
[08:35] <Myrtti> *BWUUUUUP*
[08:35] <Myrtti> lol
[08:35] <nickrud> I was just remembering lovely january atlantic ocean crossings :)
[08:35] <Myrtti> not enough powah
[08:36]  * Myrtti larts nickrud
[08:37]  * Myrtti kicks kapsi bitlbee again
[08:37] <nickrud> boredom, bazhang or just wanna be part of the group
[08:38] <bazhang> nickrud, pretty desperate imo
[08:54] <Myrtti> great, the meds are kicking in
[09:13] <Myrtti> could someone just kill -offtopic
[09:44]  * stdin tests something
[09:45] <stdin> @mark Myrtti because I said so
[09:45] <stdin> @btlogin
[09:45]  * stdin w00t's
[09:45] <stdin> W00T!
[09:46] <stdin> erm, or not
[09:57] <stdin> ok, woot reinstated
[09:57] <stdin> @help mark
[09:57] <stdin> ^ you can add an entry in the bantracker manually with that command
[09:57] <jussi01> :)
[09:57] <jussi01> stdin: get that backup done??
[09:58] <stdin> jussi01: yeah, I have the "old" bot, the databases and the updated bot all backed up
[09:58] <jussi01> great :D
[09:59] <stdin> I think I also fixed the <alias> thing properly this time :p
[09:59] <jussi01> YAY
[10:31] <Myrtti> stdin: you pinged during the night?
[10:32] <stdin> Myrtti: was just to say the server for ubottu was back up
[10:32] <Myrtti> oh
[10:32] <Myrtti> should've /msg'd
[10:32] <Myrtti> :-)
[10:32] <Myrtti> I don't mind, I'm Finnish
[10:48] <Tm_T> finished
[10:48]  * Tm_T hides
[11:11] <Myrtti> I wubs you
[11:12] <Myrtti> ALL ♥
[11:12] <Myrtti> from meeting to another -->
[11:35] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, he's also a known entity whom you've shared more than a passing sentance or two with.
 you vsg gavno!! <--any clue what that means?
[11:39] <bazhang> guessing it was less than polite after his following line.
[12:27] <bazhang> nice :)
[12:27]  * Pici waves
[12:27] <bazhang> chanserv give privileges to ikonia :)
[12:27] <Pici> I saw ;)
[12:28] <bazhang> hi Pici :)
[12:28] <Pici> Hi!
[12:30] <jussi01> :D
[12:30] <jussi01> congrats ikonia!
[12:30] <bazhang> yesssss!
[12:40] <jussi01> !bot | bazhangplease use the address here to give out
[12:41] <bazhang> oops sorry jussi01
[12:41]  * jussi01 hates getting pinged for nothing
[12:42] <bazhang> realized right after I typed it :)
[12:44]  * Hobbsee pings jussi01
[12:44] <bazhang> haha
[12:44] <jussi01> grrrr
[13:20] <Pici> Taylor: How can we help you today?
[13:21] <Taylor> Pici: nothing, was wandering
[13:21] <Taylor> Pici: sorry if I had disturbed you
[14:18] <Myrtti> my feet hurt
[14:21] <Pici> :(
[14:31] <Myrtti> GOAR
[14:31] <Myrtti> need gootie rub
[14:31] <Myrtti> s/gootie/footie/
[14:32]  * Pici faxes one to Myrtti
[14:36] <Myrtti> and guess who just remembered that she forgot to get clearance for her today's trip from her team leader
[14:36] <Myrtti> yes, yours truly
[14:37]  * Myrtti grumbles
[15:09] <bazhang> tgd
[15:09] <Myrtti> hmmmm
[15:10] <Pici> bazhang: indeed.
[15:10] <bazhang> like a less convincing robg
[15:10] <Pici> I asked him earlier to just be honest if he doesnt know the answer instead of guessing.
[15:10] <Myrtti> hello techno_freak
[15:11] <techno_freak> hello Myrtti
[15:11] <Pici> Anything we can help you with?
[15:12] <techno_freak> Me? No, none. Thanks for the enquiring anyways :)
[15:12] <Myrtti> techno_freak: ummm... why are you here then?
[15:12] <Myrtti> techno_freak: see topic
[15:13] <techno_freak> oh, ok
[15:15]  * Myrtti sighs
[15:15] <Myrtti> so badly need that foot rub
[15:15] <jussi01> Myrtti: you are sighing a lot -  its not that bad... cheer up :D
[15:15]  * bazhang can actually understand the different sighs now..
[15:16] <Myrtti> jussi01: ... I'm bored and in train
[15:17]  * Myrtti considers resorting to lincity
[15:18] <Pici> I'm a fan of boggle.
[15:18] <jussi01> Myrtti: pioneers :D
[15:19] <Myrtti> jussi01: merh, still havenct configured the server
[15:19] <jussi01> Myrtti: Ill play with you - Ill put the server here online if you like
[15:20] <bazhang> techno_freak, how may we help you
[15:20] <techno_freak> hi, just to clarify a doubt. whether chan ops of loco team channels are allowed to stay here?
[15:21] <bazhang> #ubuntu-irc techno_freak
[15:21] <techno_freak> bazhang, ah ok. thanks. i was told my team members, so thought of clarifying :)
[15:22] <jussi01> Myrtti: if you look at the pioneers server list, Im sure you can figure out which one is mine
[15:22] <jussi01> anyone else wanting to play, feel free to join
[15:23] <Myrtti> the problem is I haven't played in two years and even then I didn't understand the rules that well...
[15:26] <jussi01> Myrtti: ahh ok
[15:26] <Myrtti> and the train is in Toijala
[15:26] <jussi01> :D
[15:26] <Myrtti> I think
[15:26] <Myrtti> wth is that building
[15:26] <Myrtti> oh, ..
[15:26] <Myrtti> Hämeenlinna
[15:27] <jussi01> :D
[15:27] <jussi01> almost there
[15:27] <Pici> talking with him
[15:27] <Pici> ...
[15:27] <Pici> Vilo: Please ignore the message you got about this channel, the bot thought you were making a suggestion for a new factoid.
[15:28] <Vilo> ahh haa
[15:28] <Vilo> can i get a op?
[15:28] <Pici> !language | Vilo
[15:28] <Vilo> ahhh
[15:29] <Vilo> there is a porn channel password here?
[15:29]  * Myrtti rolls her eyes
[15:29] <nalioth> Vilo: is there something legitimate we can help you with?
[15:29] <Pici> Vilo: I've already told you no.  Freenode is an open source software community. we dont have things like that.
[15:30] <Vilo> really...your never do a handjob for your self
[15:31]  * nalioth whistles a tune
[15:31]  * jussi01 hugs nalioth
[15:37] <bazhang>  BoltClock<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu ("Remember: don't use `sudo rm -rf /`!")
[15:39]  * Myrtti yawns
[17:13] <Myrtti> unfg
[17:15]  * Myrtti pokes the channel
[17:15] <Myrtti> *SQUEEK*
[17:17]  * mneptok deflates
[17:18] <Myrtti> ...
[17:18] <Myrtti> I'm not going to say anything
[17:22] <mneptok> sorry about the smell. :/
[17:25] <Myrtti> just for a moment there I was having a bit of a trouble with myself mixing Finnish and English languages together
[17:25] <Myrtti> bbbuuuut, nevermind that
[17:26] <Myrtti> NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG
[17:33] <jussi01> hello ompaul :)
[17:34] <ompaul> evening
[17:38] <mneptok> Myrtti: tervello
[17:38] <mneptok> ompaul: oy'ya.
[17:39] <ompaul> mneptok, yawhayawannn
[17:39] <ompaul> bud?
[17:40] <ompaul> mneptok, welcome to a new world order - I order and no one pays any attention :)
[17:40]  * ompaul grins
[17:40] <Myrtti> mneptok: lol
[17:42] <nalioth> ompaul: you need to show 'em the money when you place your order
[17:43] <ompaul> nalioth, the olde show them the money trick - no wonder :)
[17:43] <ompaul> anyone got a howto for qemu and audio tx across from the .iso image
[17:45] <Myrtti> oh lord, I'm tired
[17:56] <nalioth> so have a nice nap, Myrtti
[20:31] <Myrtti> SOMEONE JUST FED ME A GRUMBLEMUMBLE COOKIE AND WOKE ME UP
[20:31] <Myrtti> GROWL
[20:32] <jussi01> it wasnt me! :D
[20:32] <Myrtti> no, it was my idiotic ex
[20:33] <jussi01> Myrtti: you need to learn how to turn your phone on silent
[20:33] <Myrtti> jussi01: ärrinmurrinpipari
[20:33] <jussi01> hehe
[20:33] <nalioth> wtf is a grumblemumble cookie  ( and no, i don't want one ) ?
[20:34] <Myrtti> jussi01: yeah, I've been thinking about donating the developer of Flipsilent some money so I get a Symbian signed copy of it
[20:34] <jussi01> nalioth: I let Myrtti explain that one...
[20:34] <jussi01> :P
[20:34] <Myrtti> nalioth: it is a cookie that makes people grumblemumble
[20:34] <Myrtti> makes people very very very grumpy
[20:35] <Myrtti> similar to getting up from the wrong side of the bed
[20:35] <nalioth> ah
[20:36] <Myrtti> so stand back or I'll bite your head off
[20:36]  * nalioth offers Myrtti a fluffy bunny
[20:37] <jussi01> a pink one I hope...
[20:37] <Myrtti> in recent news: I got an sms from my project manager "could you please jot down your hours and move your tasks to Testing"
[20:37] <Myrtti> which reads to: I'm given freedom from Windows Hell
[20:37] <Myrtti> WOOOO
[20:37] <jussi01> YAY!!!!
[20:38] <Myrtti> I immediately celebrated by taking a nap
[20:38] <Myrtti> WOOOO
[20:39]  * Myrtti sighs and takes the fluffy bunny
[20:40]  * Myrtti cuddles with it since she has no one else to cuddle with
[20:41] <nalioth> where are your rodents, Myrtti ?
[20:41] <Myrtti> wallowing
[20:41] <Myrtti> in their poo in the balcony
[20:42] <Myrtti> :-P
[20:42] <Myrtti> no but in reality guineapigs are too small and too fragile to cuddle with
[20:42] <nalioth>  not too huggable, then,  :(
[20:42] <Myrtti> cats would be more cuddlable
[20:43] <Myrtti> yeah, tomorrow is a "shovel-and-pitchfork"-day
[20:43] <Myrtti> just can't be arsed today
[20:43] <nalioth> cats suck, imho
[20:43]  * nalioth just resuced one a couple of months ago
[20:44] <ikonia> nalioth: good for you, my cats are rescue cats
[20:44] <jussi01> ikonia: Hei!
[20:44] <jussi01> ikonia: congrats on the downgrade... oh, sorry upgrade :P
[20:45] <ikonia> ha, appriciated
[20:45] <Myrtti> ikonia: congrats
[20:45] <Myrtti> welcome to the high prestige world of Ubuntu toilet cleaners
[20:45]  * ikonia nods
[20:46] <PriceChild> cats ftw!
[20:46] <ikonia> yes
[20:46] <PriceChild> mine is currently clawing me affectionately
[20:46] <ikonia> http://www.projecthugo.co.uk/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=128
[20:46] <ikonia> mine is under my foot
[20:48] <jussi01> Hedgies FTW!!
[20:48] <ikonia> hedgie ?
[20:48] <jussi01> ikonia: jussi01.com ;)
[20:49] <ikonia> ahhh a hog
[20:50] <jussi01> :D
[21:09]  * Myrtti sighs
[21:17]  * Myrtti stares at her bed
[22:05] <ScottK> Would someone please come and kick-ban londar from #ubuntu-motu
[22:08] <ScottK> Thanks.  Back to your regularly scheduled programming.
[22:20] <Myrtti> ok, the bed starts to look better now
[22:22]  * PriceChild resists
[22:27] <Myrtti> grumblemumble cookies </3
[22:28]  * nalioth offers Myrtti a fluffy duckling
[22:28]  * Myrtti hugs nalioth
[23:45]  * bazhang reads the mailing list and is confused.


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[00:06] <asac> yes
[00:06] <asac> :)
[00:07] <fta> too slow
[00:07] <fta> me too
[00:41] <fta> asac, still broken, no idea what's happening
[00:41] <fta> i will disable it from the bot
[01:05] <asac> fta: tbird?
[01:05] <fta> yes, last attempt before i got to bed
[01:06] <fta> this time, with my old patch + remove-files + the update to add the missing files
[01:16] <fta> now the main window is back, but still broken
[01:16] <fta> Error: Ci.nsIActivity is undefined
[01:16] <fta> Source File: file:///usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b2pre/components/nsActivity.js
[01:16] <fta> Line: 64
[01:17] <fta> Error: i is undefined
[01:17] <fta> Source File: file:///usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b2pre/modules/XPCOMUtils.jsm
[01:17] <fta> Line: 115
[01:17] <asac> fta: nsIActivity missing means there is a component missing
[01:17] <fta> a bunch of times, then
[01:17] <fta> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND) [nsIXPCComponents_Utils.import]"  nsresult: "0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND)"  location: "JS frame :: file:///usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b2pre/modules/activity/activityModules.js :: <TOP_LEVEL> :: line 44"  data: no]
[01:17] <asac> err ... i mean a .xpt
[01:18] <asac> so interface missing is what i ment ;)
[01:18] <asac> fta: are the activity modules installed now?
[01:18] <asac> seems so
[01:19] <asac> what is at line 44?
[01:19] <fta> Components.utils.import("resource://app/modules/activity/sendLater.js");
[01:19] <asac> fta: sendLater.js and moveCopy.js
[01:19] <asac> yes
[01:20] <asac> not installed in the same place as activityModules.js ?
[01:20] <asac> probably lacking in packages-static ?
[01:20] <fta> $ find /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b2pre/ -name sendLater.js
[01:20] <fta> /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b2pre/modules/activity/sendLater.js
[01:20] <fta> $ find /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b2pre/ -name  activityModules.js
[01:20] <fta> /usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b2pre/modules/activity/activityModules.js
[01:21] <asac> strange ... thought activityModules.js was imported wiht app/ prefix too
[01:21] <asac> fta: try to remove the app/ from the path
[01:21] <asac> (i mean just edit in /usr/lib/thunderbird ... to try)
[01:22] <fta> far less errors but no change
[01:22] <fta> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE) [nsIXPCComponents_Utils.import]"  nsresult: "0x80040111 (NS_ERROR_NOT_AVAILABLE)"  location: "JS frame :: file:///usr/lib/thunderbird-3.0b2pre/modules/activity/activityModules.js :: <TOP_LEVEL> :: line 44"  data: no]
[01:22] <fta> same
[01:25] <fta> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND) [nsIXPCComponents_Utils.import]"  nsresult: "0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://messenger/content/msgMail3PaneWindow.js :: <TOP_LEVEL> :: line 4"  data: no]
[01:25] <fta> Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004003 (NS_ERROR_INVALID_POINTER) [nsIPrefBranch2.addObserver]"  nsresult: "0x80004003 (NS_ERROR_INVALID_POINTER)"  location: "JS frame :: chrome://messenger/content/msgMail3PaneWindow.js :: OnLoadMessenger :: line 622"  data: no]
[01:26] <fta> msgMail3PaneWindow.js is missing
[01:27] <fta> it's not in dist/ either
[01:27] <asac> fta: its in a .jar
[01:27] <asac> should be in chrome
[01:33] <asac> if msgMail3PaneWindow.js cannot import something its definitly a bad signj
[01:33] <fta> I'm pushing my changes, i will let you figure out :)
[01:34] <asac> yeah ... thats good
[01:34] <asac> maybe for lunch tomorr ;)
[01:36] <fta> done, rev84
[01:41] <fta> probably some files misplaced, or mis-bundled
[10:01] <fta> asac, hi, did you touch tb3?
[10:02] <asac> fta: when?
[10:02] <asac> last time we talked was 6 hours from now ;)
[10:02] <fta> just asking
[10:02] <asac> in between there was mostly sleep :)
[10:02] <fta> lol
[10:02] <fta> me too
[10:42] <BUGabundo> humm
[10:42] <BUGabundo> fta not here today?
[10:42] <BUGabundo> fta: ping
[10:43]  * BUGabundo mumbles stupid pidgin autocomplete
[10:43] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/117209/
[10:43] <BUGabundo> gwibber daily broken ?
[10:45] <asac> yes gwibber hangs for me
[10:46] <BUGabundo> strange then
[10:47] <BUGabundo> mine started fine
[10:47] <BUGabundo> but the upgrade isn't going so well
[12:43] <fta2> asac, are the xul 1.9 head and ff 3.0 head in sync?
[12:44] <fta2> +branches
[13:15] <asac> fta2: any objectino if  i go through the packages in ~mt PPA and remove most of them?
[13:17] <fta2> none, i never really used it
[13:41] <fta2> BUGabundo, it's your own fault ;)
[13:43] <BUGabundo> hum?
[13:43] <BUGabundo> why?
[13:43] <BUGabundo> I had removed the bzr package
[13:43] <BUGabundo> before using the daily PPA
[13:56] <fta2> probably leftovers
[13:57] <fta2> they are not tracked by anything when you install stuff yourself
[13:57] <BUGabundo> from purge?
[13:57] <BUGabundo> yeah that's right too
[13:57] <fta2> no, from the time when you sudo python
[13:57] <BUGabundo> and I've been removing lots of packages (3GiBs) due to space restringing
[13:58] <BUGabundo> yes fta I udertstang
[14:00] <fta2> asac, xpi.mk is not clean
[14:00] <fta2> it leaves temp-xpi-QuOxoiNA/ behind
[14:04] <fta2> annoying when it creates that during debian/rules get-orig-source
[14:51] <fta2> asac, any progress with tb3?
[14:55] <asac> fta2: still working on other things. didnt have lunch yet either ;)
[14:55] <fta2> at 4pm?
[14:56] <fta2> brb
[15:13] <gnomefreak> its our enigmail that doesnt support seamonkey with the nightly 0.96.x works in SM2
[15:31]  * gnomefreak confused :(
[15:40] <gnomefreak> asac: did you revise enigmail package to be cleaner yet?
[15:42] <gnomefreak> why repling to upstream mozilla bug's send it to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>with the (bug#) bug description?
[15:43] <gnomefreak> is that that easy?
[15:48] <asac> gnomefreak: bugzilla doesnt have a mail interface
[15:48] <asac> at least the mozilla deployment
[15:49] <gnomefreak> oops :( shit i have to redo it
[15:50] <gnomefreak> yep got the reject email
[15:56] <gnomefreak> i see they are not supporting QT but its experimental
[16:03] <asac> gnomefreak: who is "they" here?
[16:04] <gnomefreak> mozilla
[16:04] <asac> yes its mostly for mobile
[16:05] <gnomefreak> ah
[16:06] <gnomefreak> [MASTER] right click (with button release)mightactivate random popup-menu-item  generates way too much traffic
[16:10] <asac> gnomefreak: what can i do ;)
[16:10] <gnomefreak> nothing
[16:10] <asac> we have about 280 comments or something ;)
[16:11] <gnomefreak> just funny i check email once a week and i have 1000+ most are that bug :)
[16:12] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[16:16] <gnomefreak> asac: the n-m workaround master bug. havent we changed it once for a bug than others said they didnt like that feature and now have bug open again. Is there a way to make everyone happy (not likely but i thought id ask
[16:16] <gnomefreak> bug 191889
[16:29] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: what 1000+ bugmail is that?
[16:30] <gnomefreak> BUGabundo: in one email in a week i get 1000+ emails from upstream and ubuntu bugs
[16:30] <BUGabundo> eheh
[16:31] <gnomefreak> !info ubufox jaunty
[16:56] <BUGabundo> gnomefreak: explain that better
[16:57] <BUGabundo> one email what?
[16:58] <gnomefreak> one email address that gets that many i have anohter email address that does about 500 a week not including the other 7 or some email address i have
[16:59] <BUGabundo> ok ok
[16:59] <BUGabundo> got it now
[17:33] <gnomefreak> asac: ill look at flashgot either tomorrow or this weekend i have to go to work for the afternoon.
[18:11] <slytherin> Can anyone please tell me what is the file urlclassfier3.sqlite in firefox directory? I am wondering why the file is as bug as 51MB on my machine.
[18:12] <timeless> hello world
[18:13] <timeless> i have a package foo that depends on bar, but i have a new-bar which conflicts w/ bar, and my world depends on new-bar
[18:13] <timeless> how can i write a package to enabloe foo to be installed?
[18:14] <slytherin> timeless: is this question related to mozilla packages?
[18:15] <timeless> i'm a mozillan, and reed suggested i get help here
[18:15] <timeless> if you want, i do have the same problem w/ mozilla packages
[18:15] <timeless> i have microb which conflicts w/ xulrunner
[18:15] <timeless> which means installing microb evicted fennec/thunderbird
[18:41] <asac> timeless: if bar is removed foo cannot be installed
[18:41] <asac> timeless: is it because you dont want to touch foo or because foo doesnt work with new-bar?
[19:59] <fta> asac, tb3? no?
[20:39] <asac> fta: spinning yur stuff now
[20:39] <asac> lets see what gets out of it
[20:39] <asac> while installing kubuntu
[20:39] <fta> really?
[20:40] <asac> yes
[20:40] <asac> i have to unfcus mself a bit ;)
[20:40] <asac> unfocus
[20:45] <asac> hmm i think i forgot that now all applications will be in my applications menu
[20:46]  * asac relogs in
[20:50] <asac> so didnt work
[20:51] <fta> ?
[20:52] <asac> tried to log in ... only white screen
[20:52] <asac> a bit like i forced compiz here
[20:53] <fta> lol
[20:54] <asac> for a second i saw a cool blinking plasma splash screen
[20:54] <asac> but then it was gone
[20:54] <asac> i think its really shiny, but probably doesnt work here without compiz
[21:01] <asac> too bad. i would have loved to get a new feeling in my boring desktop life
[21:01] <asac> probably will go back to openbox for a while to reach new levels
[21:05] <fta> dtchen, do you plan to package -test2 ? https://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/2009-February/003122.html ?
[21:38] <LLStarks> hi
[21:43] <asac> hi
[21:43] <asac> whats up LLStarks
[21:47] <LLStarks> just wondering if the antialiasing problems will be fixed before jaunty and 3.1 are released
[21:47] <LLStarks> *font antialiasing
[21:57] <LLStarks> ?
[22:05] <asac> LLStarks: i think the bug isnt really understood
[22:06] <LLStarks> howso?
[22:38] <asac> LLStarks: read the upstream bug
[22:38] <asac> in mozilla
[22:40] <LLStarks> i forget the number
[22:43] <LLStarks> 458612?
[22:51] <fta> mozilla bug 458612
[22:51] <fta> yes
[22:54] <asac> so i am back to rxvt
[22:54] <asac> gnome-terminal busted my system
[23:04] <fta> i'm still using xterm
[23:05] <fta> gnome-term is a pig
[23:06] <BUGabundo> how can a term mess your system ??
[23:06] <BUGabundo> I have at least one ALWAYS opened
[23:06] <fta> suck all your memory?
[23:06] <BUGabundo> its one of the first things to open on my system after autologin
[23:06] <BUGabundo> let me check
[23:06] <fta> i have between 20 and 30, always
[23:07] <fta> bind to F12
[23:07] <BUGabundo> $ atop | grep term
[23:07] <BUGabundo>  4619   0.30s   1.02s 203.3M 20032K  1512K     0K  N-   - S   0% gnome-terminal
[23:07] <fta> so it's easy, and it has to be fast
[23:08] <BUGabundo>  6160      3      0         82K   1.0G 276.7M     0K     8K   7% firefox-3.1
[23:08] <BUGabundo> 17480   5642      0        950K 797.2M 244.6M     0K     0K   6% pidgin
[23:08] <BUGabundo> 18114      1      0        950K 800.3M 220.9M     0K     0K   6% pidgin
[23:08] <BUGabundo> 17284     10      0       3455K 185.6M 163.7M     0K     0K   4% gdb
[23:08] <BUGabundo>  4626      1      0       2388K 380.1M 64676K     0K     0K   2% gnome-do
[23:08] <BUGabundo>  4010      0      0       1797K 244.0M 61912K     0K     0K   2% Xorg
[23:08] <BUGabundo>  4879      0      0       1167K 524.8M 61812K     0K     0K   2% deskbar-applet
[23:08] <BUGabundo>  4587      0      0       1710K 570.3M 59540K     0K     0K   1% nautilus
[23:08] <BUGabundo> FF is much worse
[23:08] <BUGabundo> lol
[23:08] <fta> fta      20432  1.1  0.2   9820  5788 ?        S    00:07   0:00 xterm -sb -sl 1000
[23:08] <fta> 9M/5M vs 200M/20M
[23:10] <BUGabundo> right
[23:10] <BUGabundo> I need to try that
[23:10] <BUGabundo> had no idea it sucked so much juice
[23:11] <BUGabundo> but then again I have 4GiBs plus 8GiBs swap
[23:11] <fta> that's no reason to let pigs spoil you ;)
[23:11] <asac> i disabled swap now
[23:11] <asac> it locks up desktop when it kicks in anyway
[23:11] <asac> rather want oom killer
[23:12] <fta> strange, bad disks?
[23:12] <BUGabundo> locks?
[23:12] <BUGabundo> how come?
[23:12] <asac> so slow that nothing is usable
[23:13] <BUGabundo> never noticed it
[23:13] <BUGabundo> my disk is fast
[23:14] <BUGabundo> $ sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda2 #swap
[23:14] <BUGabundo>  Timing cached reads:   2234 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1116.85 MB/sec
[23:14] <BUGabundo>  Timing buffered disk reads:  188 MB in  3.02 seconds =  62.31 MB/sec


[02:02] <zul> BenC: why the hell does it try to make xen-xen0-2.6.16 when i have xen-image in my control file?
[02:14] <BenC> no idea...something in make-kpkg
[02:14] <zul> yeah...is it possible to merge all of kernel-package since there might be some breakage with xen stuff that we dont know about from the patch
[02:16] <zul> since kernel-package also breaks xen on amd64 as well according to the changelog
[02:17] <zul> pretty please ;)
[02:19] <BenC> I'll work on it this week
[02:19] <zul> thanks
[02:54] <zul> hmmm...kernel-package wants to set i_package to $(INT_STEM)-xen0-$(version) when CONFIG_XEN_PRIVILEGED IS set which i dont want it to do..
[02:56] <zul> im so tempted not to use kernel-package for xen-linux
[05:05] <ivoks> km, km, vmplauer-kernel-modules need rebuild :)
[05:05] <ivoks> vmware-player-kernel-modules
[05:10] <zul> eh?
[05:12] <ivoks> vmware-player-modules are still for -23 kernel
[05:12] <zul> ah ok the abi bumb
[05:13] <ivoks> right
[05:13] <zul> ill let Ben know
[05:23] <allee> zul: can't openafs-modules-source be added to the list of to-rebuild pkgs too? ;)
[05:24] <zul> allee can you open a bug please im at work right now
[05:25] <allee> 'k, 1st ssh-krb5 crash, then openafs-modules wish
[05:49] <Keybuk> BenC: ping?
[05:50] <zul> BenC: vmware-palyer needs to be version bumped
[05:53] <BenC> Keybuk: pong
[05:53] <BenC> zul: Ah, want to upload that again?
[05:54] <Keybuk> BenC: so, talk to me about linux-kernel-headers vs. linux-headers
[05:54] <Keybuk> what's the plan for edgy?
[05:56] <BenC> I included the patch for hdrinstall2 in edgy kernel
[05:56] <BenC> just waiting on jbailey to see if the kernel headers are able to be used, and if so, I'll be building linux-kernel-headers out of edgy's kernel build
[05:58] <Keybuk> ok, and how will that differ to the linux-headers package?
[06:00] <BenC> the only difference between linux-kernel-headers and linux-headers-2.6.17 (which is binary-arch as well) will be the installed location
[06:00] <BenC> oh wait, no that's wrong
[06:01] <BenC> the hdrinstall actually removes a lot of the files and file contents (removed everything wrapped in #ifdef __KERNEL__)
[06:01] <BenC> so there's a lot of difference
[06:02] <Keybuk> ok
[06:02] <Keybuk> so if this works, we'll be able to drop the linux-kernel-headers source package entirely?
[06:03] <BenC> yeah
[06:04] <Keybuk> cool
[06:04] <Keybuk> BenC: btw, do you plan to merge kernel-wedge and kernel-package today?
[06:05] <BenC> within the next few days
[06:05] <BenC> kernel-wedge should be easy, but kernel-package isn't
[06:05] <Keybuk> there's only one day left until UVF
[06:05] <Keybuk> when all merges need to be completed by
[06:05] <BenC> considering they both only really affect linux-source, can I get an exception? :)
[06:06] <BenC> I'm working on them today, but I can't guarantee I'll be able to test kernel-package fully
[06:08] <Keybuk> ok
[06:08] <Keybuk> try and at least get an upload before thursday
[06:08] <zul> BenC: sure i can do it tonight
[06:08] <BenC> ok, no problem
[06:08] <BenC> zul: thanks
[06:09] <zul> your welcome :)
[07:02] <jbailey> BenC: If you need a tester with the kernel nULL pointer dereference problem, my laptop has it.
[07:04] <BenC> I have a feeling 5.7 will fix it
[07:18] <zul> what are we at now for abi for dapper?
[07:18] <zul> 26?
[07:22] <jbailey> BenC: 'kay.  If you have a build for i386, I'll test it anytime.
[07:23] <jbailey> Otherwise I'll grab it when you upload.
[07:29] <BenC> kernel-dailys has a -5 build
[07:29] <BenC> zul: 26
[07:29] <BenC> jbailey: that should have the fixes
[07:29] <jbailey> BenC: Cool, thanks.
[07:31] <astraw> I'm trying to apply a patch to the git kernel tree for dapper. The problem is I bump the version in the changelog (e.g. from 2.6.15-26.44 to 2.6.15-26.44.ads1) so my .debs supercede previous .debs but are replaced by future .debs, but then I get an ABI error: "Missing .../abi/2.6.15-26.44/i386/386 file". I've worked around this by generating the old .debs, then applying my patch, then re-generating, but this takes a long time.
[07:35] <jbailey> update-grub didn't seem to get run when I installed the daily.
[07:35] <jbailey> Nope, I'm on crack.
[07:35] <jbailey> I wget'd the deb and didn't install it.
[07:41] <jbailey> BenC: The daily from July 8th appears to be working.
[07:42] <BenC> sweet
[07:43] <astraw> BTW, the only reason I'm doing this is to fix bug #41228 (incorrect timestamps in video1394), so if that could get rolled into the next bugfix release, that'd be great.
[07:52] <BenC> astraw: Please read KernelGitGuide in topic for the best way to submit patches (especially since you have a git tree to do it from)
[07:58] <astraw> BenC: will do. Also, I just found the AUTOBUILD=1 setting. Gotta run now.
[07:59] <BenC> people really need to read more thoroughly
[07:59] <BenC> it specifically says that it is only useful in 2.6.17/edgy kernel
[08:02] <jbailey> USer's don't read. =)
[08:03] <zul> huker on phonics wurked for me
[08:07] <BenC> zul: feh, it's FONICKS
[08:07] <BenC> even I know that
[08:08] <zul> im canadian eh?
[08:09] <BenC> oh, sorry, eh :)
[08:09] <zul> lol
[08:12] <BenC> jbailey: do you know the bug number for that oops?
[08:13] <jbailey> BenC: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/51488
[08:13] <jbailey> No ubugtu here?
[08:13] <jbailey> Hmm, weird.
[08:18] <zul> nope
[11:44] <jbailey> BenC: It occurs to me that with lkh merging into the kernel, that you have to be part of edgy +1 toolchian roadmap.
[11:44] <jbailey> In the sense that the new lkh should be uploaded with glibc/gcc at the start of the release.
[11:46] <BenC> that sucks :)
[11:53] <kylem> :)


[10:20] <sophia7> hi! There's a troll in #ubuntu
[10:21] <ikonia> what's up
[10:21] <sophia7> k bai :D
[10:21] <ikonia> ?
[15:30] <congtitfooo> whats up people how you chillen
[15:33] <DJones> Selena Gomez troll, banned from #ubuntu
 I agree the MSM is pretty pathetic.
[20:54] <k1l_> am i missing some context?
[21:16] <k1l_> deicide-> * Cannot join #xubuntu (You are banned).
[21:21] <Unit193> Did you ask him to join here?
[21:22] <k1l_> no, he asked for support in #ubuntu then and didnt seem to care about that #xubuntu banning issue
[21:30] <dax> Keitaro: (looks like you're all sorted by now, please don't idle in #ubuntu-ops if so :)   )
[21:32] <Keitaro> true sorry i leave now thx


[12:52] <the_hatter> Hey, I'm trying to use Capistrano to deploy a RoR application to an Ubuntu6.06 server, and I get the following error message >> LoadError: no such file to load -- openssl >> I have openssl installed on my machine, but it continues to fail.
[01:00] <ajmitch> namely the libopenssl-ruby package, or libopenssl-ruby1.9
[01:05] <the_hatter> sweet, thanks. I tried apt-get with openssl-devel and openssl-ruby, but not with lib
[01:07] <ajmitch> 'apt-cache search' is your friend
[01:08] <the_hatter> Indeed, I forgot that command. I used to have Mandriva, but have since seen the light.
[09:13] <kraut> moin
[04:03] <binary_blob> hi all.  i have a feisty server at home, and there was a recent update to rsync that caused a problem.  would someone mind taking a look at my pastebin to help me out?
[04:03] <binary_blob> http://pastebin.ca/669191
[04:07] <CrummyGummy> I have a blue screen of death on a feisty setup. :( hehe
[04:08] <CrummyGummy> Anyone here installed it on HP cc3310
[04:08] <binary_blob> CrummyGummy: sorry, not me.
[04:08] <pmjdebruijn> binary_blob: weird, have you tried apt-get install -f
[04:09] <CrummyGummy> Any ideas why it would hang?
[04:09] <binary_blob> pmjdebruijn: no, do you think there's a chance that the package was corrupted during download?
[04:09] <binary_blob> is there  a way to clear my dpkg cache and redownload the package?
[04:09] <pmjdebruijn> it's possible, though not liekly
[04:09] <pmjdebruijn> likely
[04:10] <binary_blob> ok... i forgot to run irssi over 'screen' so i'll have to exit from here, give the "-f" a try, and come back.
[04:11] <binary_blob> brb
[04:15] <CrummyGummy> or the tigpr2u. Pretty much the same thing...
[04:25] <CrummyGummy> It crashes round about the detect network devices part, whats next?
[04:35] <CrummyGummy> hmmm, it was a network card it didn't like,...
[05:55] <lousygarua> what do you use for incremental backups? if rdiff-backup any good?
[06:40] <j1mc> hi all, earlier i had posted this pastebin ( http://pastebin.ca/669191 ).
[06:41] <j1mc> the problem was that i had set 'noexec' as an option on the /var partition in my fstab file
[06:41] <j1mc> removing that option fixed the problem
[06:41] <j1mc> just thought i'd mention it.  :)
[06:45] <Shane-S> can I reset the default users password if I have access to the server? I am trying SSH and none of the users/passwords are working that I thought would
[06:45] <Shane-S> I know root is disabled and I have to use sudo, so will that cause an issue?
[06:56] <Shane-S> never mind remembered it
[06:56] <mralphabet> sudo password someuser
[06:57] <mralphabet> or self
[06:57] <mralphabet> sudo password
[06:57] <coNP> passwd
[06:57] <mralphabet> ^^ true
[06:57] <coNP> instead of password, I guess
[06:57] <mralphabet> my bad
[06:58] <Shane-S> well I am good now, I remembered it, I forgot I used a different username then normal :P
[06:59] <Shane-S> how do I keep all the packages and such updated, my google, is returning updating 6.06 to feisty, I just want to make sure it is up to date security wise
[07:00] <Shane-S> just apt-get update?
[07:02] <sommer> Shane-S: apt-get update then apt-get upgrade
[07:03] <Shane-S> ahh ok, I will wait till the evening encase it breaks :P
[07:03] <Shane-S> then I will be like...who me...I didn't do anything ;) (surry to fix what broke) then be like but I fixed it for ya :D
[07:04] <Shane-S> should be fine though, had no issues with the gui desktops that I made into lamp's
[07:04] <sommer> you can also to apt-get upgrade -s to see which packages will be installed.
[07:04] <Shane-S> ohh neat thanks, I am slow to understand the man page
[07:05] <Shane-S> reading it...but always scared I will break something
[07:05] <mralphabet> apt-get update gets the new file listings from the apt servers
[07:05] <mralphabet> so you have to do that before you run upgrades
[07:06] <mralphabet> or . . . should at least
[07:06] <Shane-S> I did that already
[07:07] <Shane-S> gosh quite a few need upgrades
[07:07] <Shane-S> thanks
[07:07] <Shane-S> I will be sure to run that tonight
[07:08] <Shane-S> will the upgrade reset anything I had to alter, like IPv6 being enabled?
[07:08] <mralphabet> nope
[07:08] <Shane-S> its on a network that doesn't support IPv6 yet
[07:08] <Shane-S> ahh alright thanks
[10:24] <stiv2k> hi
[10:24] <stiv2k> for some reason, in samba, every user i add gets assigned the same (incorrect) gid
[10:24] <stiv2k> instead of the gid that matches with their username
[10:24] <stiv2k> and its sorta messing up my filesystem organization
[10:38] <mathiaz> stiv2k: how do you create your users ?
[10:40] <stiv2k> mathiaz: smbadduser
[10:42] <stiv2k> wait are you talking about system users
[10:42] <stiv2k> or samba users
[10:42] <stiv2k> i use useradd for system users
[10:47] <mathiaz> stiv2k: are you using the smbadduser from the samba-doc package ?
[10:47] <mathiaz> stiv2k: which version of samba are you running ?
[10:47] <stiv2k> umm
[10:47] <stiv2k> one sec
[10:47] <stiv2k> Version 3.0.24
[10:48] <stiv2k> wait
[10:48] <stiv2k> not smbadduser
[10:48] <stiv2k> that command doesnt exist :P
[10:48] <stiv2k> i use smbpasswd
[10:48] <stiv2k> perhaps that my problem?
[10:49] <mathiaz> well - smbpasswd will add entry to your smbpassword file
[10:50] <mathiaz> stiv2k: it won't touch the system accounts.
[10:50] <stiv2k> mathiaz: so am i using the right command?
[10:50] <mathiaz> stiv2k: when you say it that every user gets the same gid, you mean on the files created ?
[10:50] <stiv2k> well
[10:50] <stiv2k> pbedit shows this for all the samba users:
[10:51] <stiv2k> Primary Group SID:    S-1-5-21-4271386153-3904370233-1644803865-513
[10:51] <stiv2k> and when i transfer files over samba, the ownership shows up as
[10:51] <mathiaz> stiv2k: that's normal
[10:51] <stiv2k> steve:ridethelightning
[10:51] <stiv2k> instead of steve:steve
[10:51] <stiv2k> or paul:paul
[10:51] <stiv2k> its paul:ridethelightning
[10:51] <stiv2k> etc
[10:51] <mathiaz> stiv2k: what'S the gid of ridethelightning ?
[10:52] <stiv2k> mathiaz: how do i look it up
[10:52] <mathiaz> grep ridethelightning /etc/group
[10:52] <stiv2k> ridethelightning:x:1001:
[10:54] <mathiaz> stiv2k: do you use the group / force group option in smb.conf ?
[10:54] <stiv2k> mathiaz: im not sure
[10:54] <stiv2k> mathiaz: would you like to see my smb.conf?
[10:57] <mathiaz> stiv2k: could you pastbin somewhere ?
[10:57] <mathiaz> stiv2k: make sure it doesn'T have any confidential information
[10:58] <stiv2k> mathiaz: i dont think it does
[10:58] <stiv2k> one sec
[10:59] <stiv2k> http://pastebin.com/d569db73
[11:01] <stiv2k> mathiaz: i followed a howto when i got samba running
[11:01] <stiv2k> i dont really know what half of the paramaters do... :/
[11:03] <mathiaz> stiv2k: I don't see anything obviously broken.
[11:07] <stiv2k> mathiaz: yeah i know :/
[11:07] <stiv2k> maybe its not a samba thign?
[11:07] <stiv2k> maybe somethigns messed up in my system?
[11:10] <mathiaz> stiv2k: do the users have their primary group set correctly ?
[11:23] <stiv2k> mathiaz: how do i check that?
[11:23] <stiv2k> sorry i went out for an extended stoge session
[11:24] <stiv2k> that might be the problem
[11:24] <stiv2k> i dont know how to check that
[11:25] <mathiaz> stiv2k: groups username
[11:25] <stiv2k> that shows the current group
[11:25] <stiv2k> right
[11:26] <mathiaz> stiv2k: that shows the list of group a user is in
[11:26] <stiv2k> mathiaz: it appears to be OK
[11:27] <mathiaz> stiv2k: you can also use the id command
[11:27] <mathiaz> stiv2k: it'll give the actual gid
[11:27] <stiv2k> ok
[11:27] <stiv2k> yeah i dont see anything out of the ordinary
[11:28] <stiv2k> but if i transfer a file over thru samba
[11:28] <stiv2k> the ownsership always shows up with the wrong group
[11:28] <stiv2k> im gonna go try to reproduce it right now
[11:31] <stiv2k> how do i retrieve a password for someones account
[11:33] <mathiaz> stiv2k: well - you can't. That's why it's called a password.
[11:33] <stiv2k> but im a sysadmin
[11:34] <stiv2k> well how do i retrieve their smbpasswd
[11:34] <mathiaz> stiv2k: same thing.
[11:35] <stiv2k> ok
[11:35] <stiv2k> well its not letting my log in as myself
[11:35] <stiv2k> from my friends laptop
[11:46] <stiv2k> oh snapo
[11:46] <stiv2k> mathiaz: i think i found something
[11:46] <stiv2k> mathiaz: i've figured out the problem
[11:47] <stiv2k> its not samba related at all
[11:47] <stiv2k> but i dont know of a solution
[11:47] <stiv2k> yu gotta help me


[09:18] <fanch_> bonjour
[09:18] <bazhang> any operators from #ubuntu-fr around?
[09:19] <bazhang> fanch you may have to wait a bit until one of them shows up
[09:20] <fanch_> ok, thank you bazhang
[11:22] <Shezif> Hi
[11:22] <Shezif> I need help
[11:23] <Shezif> someone here ?
[11:26] <erUSUL> Shezif: yep; for ubuntu support the correct place is #ubuntu
[11:26] <Shezif> I need help with the ubuntu-il channel
[11:27] <Shezif> I need admin access to the israeli channel
[11:29] <Shezif> erUSUL, may you help me?
[11:30] <Shezif> May I have some help please?
[11:30] <erUSUL> Shezif: who are currently the ops there? have you asked them?
[11:31] <Shezif> The ops are not active, They leave ubuntu
[11:31] <Shezif> Now I own the israeli site
[11:31] <Myrtti> [13:30] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- -- Access List for [#ubuntu-il] --
[11:31] <Myrtti> [13:30] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Num Level Hostmask                        Time since last use
[11:31] <Myrtti> [13:30] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- --- ----- --------                        -------------------
[11:31] <Myrtti> [13:30] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- 1   20    sivang                          15w 2d 15h 24m 17s
[11:31] <Myrtti> [13:30] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- 2   10    Seveas                          1y 42w 2d 4m 27s
[11:31] <Myrtti> [13:30] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- -- End of list --
[11:31] <Shezif> It is not possiable to contact them ...
[11:32] <Shezif> I own the israeli site: http://ubuntu-il.com
[11:32] <Shezif> And I want to create a irc web chat ..
[11:32] <Myrtti> web chat...
[11:32] <Myrtti> eöyghg
[11:33] <Shezif> But I dont have premmesion to give kik or ban
[11:33] <erUSUL> Shezif: for that stuff you should talk to nalioth or PriceChild they may be able to do something about it. i'm not in such position ;)
[11:34] <Shezif> Ok
[11:34] <Shezif> thank you
[11:47] <elkbuntu> Shezif, have you spoken with sivang? '/msg memoserv help' to find out how to leave him a message
[11:50] <stdin> last seen almost 3 days ago, or so nickserv says
[11:50] <elkbuntu> stdin, last identified nearly 3 days ago, from mibbit, which doesnt auto-identify
[11:51] <stdin> true
[11:52] <elkbuntu> plus, i'm giving him long term advice, rather than a quick fix. sivan's contact details are also locatable on launchpad
[11:55] <Shezif> elkbuntu. i spoke with sivang and he said that there is no problom with the ops access
[11:55] <elkbuntu> Shezif, we need to hear that direct from him
[11:57] <Shezif> OK, 2 min' ago I spoke with him and he said that in the evening he will give my ops.
[11:57] <Shezif> Thank you for the help ...
[12:01] <elkbuntu> cool
[13:33] <grami> hello all any know ssh very well
[13:37] <Myrtti> how come?
[13:37] <Pici> grami: This isnt a support channel, if you need support please join #ubuntu :)
[14:03] <grami> thank
[16:28] <bazhang> are there any #ubuntu-fr operators around? a user named fanch was asking about getting in there earlier
[17:31] <jdavies> bazhang: "Zic" might help you, but he's not here
[17:37] <bazhang> jdavies, thanks much :)
[17:38] <jdavies> welcome


[00:42] <imbrandon> well that totally blows, websites down, emailed support no response in 30 minutes, called them and they "refreshed" the page and just saw the ticket, when asked about a resolution i was told it would be a while and if i wanted to point my dns to AWS or something they would let me know when it was ok to point it back
[00:42] <imbrandon> keep in mind this is a dedicated Wordpress hosting company, its all they do ...
[00:42] <imbrandon> frackin tards ... if i take the time to move DNS I'm not moving it back!
[00:43] <imbrandon> ( re: brandonholtsclaw.com @ wpengine.com )
[00:43] <imbrandon> bkerensa: ^^
[00:47]  * imbrandon opens subime text and gets ready to put brandonholtsclaw.com on juju charms, screw them ... i had other crap to do this weekend
[00:53] <bkerensa> imbrandon: my site is up :)
[00:53] <bkerensa> imbrandon: and yeah I noticed your site was hiccuping earlier
[00:53] <bkerensa> I thought it was me though :D
[01:03] <JoseeAntonioR> your sites are down
[01:42] <imbrandon> JoseeAntonioR: yup , waay ahead of ya
[02:32] <imbrandon> JoseeAntonioR: https://plus.google.com/u/0/112508636642046792855/posts/eHEwphLF1no
[04:50] <SpamapS> speaking of wordpress ...
[04:50] <imbrandon> heya SpamapS
[04:50] <SpamapS> marcoceppi: tap tap ... perhaps you want to hand off the rewrite of the wordpress charm? ;)
[04:50] <SpamapS> i demo'd the crappy one last night
[04:51] <SpamapS> and it felt dumb to be like "Use juju! Collaborate! Some day, maybe we'll even do that!"
[04:51] <imbrandon> btw SpamapS you cant destroy-env with the os
[04:52] <imbrandon> fixed
[04:52] <imbrandon> fixes*
[04:52] <imbrandon> nice python stackstrace and had to goto console and term machines :)
[04:52] <SpamapS> imbrandon: yeah I know
[04:52] <imbrandon> :)
[04:53] <imbrandon> looks to work other than that, trying out a few deploys right now, well about to, waiting on charm getall to finish
[04:53] <SpamapS> imbrandon: you have RAX beta access right?
[04:53] <imbrandon> yup
[04:53] <SpamapS> imbrandon: work?
[04:53] <imbrandon> hrm not tried
[04:53] <SpamapS> because hpcloud is old diablo junk
[04:53] <imbrandon> hadent crossed my mind yet, will here in just a few
[04:54] <SpamapS> what are you trying against?
[04:54] <imbrandon> hpc
[04:54] <imbrandon> region az3 in hpc
[04:54] <imbrandon> got _my_ stuff in az1 heh, "just in case"
[04:55] <SpamapS> :)
[04:55] <imbrandon> i could just see destroy-env wiping them all
[04:55] <imbrandon> lol
[04:55] <SpamapS> imbrandon: thus far, not impressed w/ hpc
[04:55] <imbrandon> yea its good if you use their rules
[04:55] <imbrandon> and igore disk io
[04:56] <imbrandon> heh
[04:56] <SpamapS> which are... "never use the disk" ?
[04:56] <imbrandon> well their floating ip crap is funny too
[04:56] <imbrandon> and shared ip is fubar
[04:56] <imbrandon> and
[04:56] <imbrandon> i could go on
[04:56] <SpamapS> juju is going to have to grow floating ip support
[04:56] <imbrandon> well i guess it does kinda cuz on hpc
[04:57] <imbrandon> its allocating me a new one and assigned it to the instance every time
[04:57] <SpamapS> anyway, time to sleep
[04:57] <imbrandon> so i end up with 2 public ips on each box
[04:57] <SpamapS> yeah I noticed that
[04:57] <imbrandon> heh
[04:57] <SpamapS> with the last one being the outgoing IP
[04:57] <imbrandon> yea
[04:57] <SpamapS> anyway, sleep..
[04:57]  * SpamapS disappears
[04:57] <imbrandon> l8tr
[04:58] <imbrandon> i need to as well ... but wont for a bit
[17:55] <marcoceppi> SpamapS: I'll push up what I have
[19:15] <hazmat> melting
[19:17] <hazmat> sidnei, unit-get public-address should also work
[19:17]  * hazmat has a house of barking dogs and babies, refugees from power outage during a heat wave
[20:17] <m_3> hazmat: yikes
[20:34] <hazmat> m_3, same outage that took out ec2-east
[20:39] <m_3> hazmat: ah, yeah we caught a little bit of hipstergeddon from over here
[20:40] <m_3> so... are you back up or running on UPS w/unineterrupted cable/phone?
[20:54] <hazmat> m_3, my power has been fine, just everyone outside of dc that's having problems
[20:55] <hazmat> hence we've become a refuge camp
[20:56] <m_3> yeah, just been reading... orig thought it was just another aws power snafu...didn't realize it was... um... bigger
[22:13] <hazmat> m_3, that new jitsu import/export was so you can ditch your shell scripts :-)


[12:23] <jbailey> zul: Which one?
[12:23] <zul> it was included in the kernel-janitors patchset
[12:25] <jbailey> Cool.
[12:26] <jbailey> Has someone come up with a full changelog yet? =)
[12:26] <jbailey> I don't actually care enough to assemble it myself, but I usually learn alot from them.
[12:27] <zul> yeah there is one in the debian directory
[12:30] <jbailey> Ah.  I haven't done an upgrade since Friday.
[12:35] <zul> i think fabbione added it this morning though
[12:43] <TheMuso> /cl/cl
[12:44] <zul> wheee...install breezy under qemu
[12:46] <karlheg> Naptime... and turn on the AC.  qemu on my laptop burns 100% CPU and is slow as molasses in January.
[12:50] <karlheg> I wonder if it can run faster?  It totally emulates, even on native CPU, right?
[12:50] <zul> uh huh
[12:51] <karlheg> Bummer.  It would be cool if it did not have to emulate every instruction.
[12:51] <karlheg> Xen sounds promising.  I've yet to take the time to try it.
[01:08] <jbailey> Oh, I didn't know qemu fully emulated.
[01:12] <karlheg> jbailey, dunno.
[01:12] <karlheg> jbailey, Hey, I'm wading through the kernel right now, learning about the file system and such;
[01:12] <karlheg> http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/linux/lk/lk-8.html
[01:13] <karlheg> ... to find the answers to the questions I had earlier wrt what the move mount does.
[01:13] <jbailey> Cool.  Did it help?
[01:13] <karlheg> I should have a patch for you by the end of the evening nonetheless.
[01:13] <karlheg> Yes, but I'm not there yet.
[01:14] <jbailey> =)
[01:14] <karlheg> And, it's gym time.  I'm going to take an hour off to go lift weights and think about it.
[01:14] <karlheg> You don't get to be a giant on cake and coffee... so it's barbells and a steak, then back to reading.
[01:15] <karlheg> Any ideas before I run?
[01:15] <jbailey> Other than the immediate one of, "Steak? Eww...."
[01:15] <karlheg> Ah, sorry.  ^H
[01:15] <jbailey> =)
[01:16] <jbailey> I keep forgotting that there are non-vegans in Portland. =)
[01:16] <karlheg> s/Steak/Solid Food/g.
[01:16] <jbailey> So so many wonderful vegan restaurants. =)
[01:16] <karlheg> Sure.
[01:16] <karlheg> I'm omnivorous.
[01:16] <karlheg> That means I eat both meat and potatoes.
[01:17] <karlheg> :-)
[01:17] <jbailey> *lol*
[01:17] <karlheg> L8r on.
[01:28] <zul> jbailey: http://zulinux.homelinux.net/Screenshot.png
[06:11] <fabbione> morning
[09:31] <fabbione> BAH
[09:31] <fabbione> no wonder there was no ABI difference....
[09:31] <fabbione> the ABI checker didn't realize we were working on the same version but a different revision
[11:40] <chmj> fabbione: mirror suppport for uscan-modules done gonna push the last update to kwatch as soon as I finish updateing the url's
[11:40] <fabbione> chmj: cool
[01:46] <zul> hola
[01:47] <chmj> bonjour chuck
[01:48] <zul> hey chmj how goes it?
[01:49] <fabbione> hey zul
[01:49] <zul> hey fabbione
[01:50] <zul> so udev hasnt entered experimental yet?
[01:50] <chmj> zul, good u ?
[01:50] <zul> tired...just got up
[01:50] <fabbione> nope
[01:50] <zul> meh..
[02:00] <zul> how are the drivers coming?
[02:02] <fabbione> zul: working on them.. but not top priority
[02:02] <zul> cool
[02:14] <fabbione> zul: specially because i figured 2 problems.. the abi checker was not checking and the udev stuff
[02:14] <zul> yeah the udev stuff is going to be fun...i blame foobar
[02:33] <fabbione> ok.. Md did shed some light
[02:33] <fabbione> we can upload .12 with our udev
[02:33] <fabbione> the only results are slow down at boot
[02:33] <zul> yay! :)
[02:33] <fabbione> once we get the new version of udev, everybody will have to upgrade to kernel .12
[02:33] <fabbione> because it's not backward compatible
[02:33] <fabbione> so we don't have too much time to fix the overall
[02:34] <zul> crappers
[02:37] <fabbione> score!
[02:37] <fabbione> 8 FTBFS fixed :)
[02:37] <chmj> sweet
[02:43] <jbailey> Feh.  Everyone repeat after me:
[02:44] <jbailey> Don't include linux/config.h in userspace applications.
[02:44] <zul> wtf? :)
[02:44] <jbailey> Relying on what you think is included in the kernel is a bad idea in a distribution.  always do runtime tests.
[02:47] <fabbione> jbailey: iptables?
[02:48] <jbailey> fabbione: Yes.
[02:48] <chmj> ftbfs
[02:48] <jbailey> Rception de: 2 http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main iptables 1.3.1-2 (tar) [1283kB]
[02:48] <jbailey> 1284ko rceptionns en 15s (83,8ko/s)
[02:48] <jbailey> dpkg-source: error: unrecognised file suffix `.tar'
[02:48] <jbailey> WTH?
[02:48] <jbailey> I don't drink enough for this.
[02:48] <chmj> jbailey, dpkg is broken
[02:49] <fabbione> ./uscan-extmod --report --watchfile passed.kwatch .
[02:49] <fabbione> Processing ./passed.kwatch ......
[02:49] <fabbione> uscan-extmod: Malformed file url mangler
[02:49] <fabbione> chmj: ^^
[02:49] <jbailey> chmj: Is there a suggested work around?  Like, will I be able to build packages?
 probably best wait for the dpkg fix, or get the patch off Keybuk and test it
[02:49] <chmj> fabbione, oh yes, the file format changed a little
[02:50] <fabbione> chmj: well.. you need to update the passed.kwatch too dude...
[02:50] <fabbione> or tell me exactly how it did change
[02:50] <chmj> hold on
[02:51] <jbailey> chmj: Yar.
[02:51] <jbailey> fabbione: I'll try and do iptables a bit later then.
[02:52] <fabbione> jbailey: no hurry...
[02:52] <fabbione> i am more concerned about gcc* on ppc at the moment
[02:52] <fabbione> doko: you around?
[02:52] <doko> yes
[02:52] <fabbione> ok
[02:52] <fabbione> i guess you both remember the mail i did send to you about unionfs for ppc
[02:53] <fabbione> i did try with gcc-4.0 and it is another ICE
[02:53] <chmj> fabbione, just remove any spaces after the version number, for each line
[02:53] <fabbione> jbailey, doko: i suggest that one of you guys look at it directly...
[02:53] <doko> fabbione: nice :)
[02:53] <chmj> jbailey: you gonna get the patch off Keybuk? or ask doko if he didn't do it earlier
[02:54] <fabbione> on breezy/davis chroot there are all the kernel build-deps
[02:54] <doko> chmj: ???
[02:54] <jbailey> chmj: I'm leaving for Ottawa in an hour, I'll just grab it from the archive tomorrow.
[02:54] <fabbione> you only need to enable CONFIG_UNIONFS to get the ICE
[02:54] <fabbione> chmj: i am pretty sure i removed all the spaces, but i will check again
[02:54] <zul> bbl
[02:55] <chmj> doko: jbailey wanted to know about any workaround for dpkg
[02:56] <chmj> fabbione: works, if you remove the spaces
[02:57] <fabbione> ok
[03:00] <doko> fabbione: I'll have a look at it tomorrow morning
[03:00] <fabbione> doko: ok
[03:05] <jbailey> doko: If there's anyone I should poke tomorrow, lemme know. =)
[03:06] <fabbione> jbailey: run the build during a talk.. steal the overhead projector cable and yell: "MY KERNEL MAINTAINER SAYS THAT YOU ALL SUCK! SEE?!?!?"
[03:06] <jbailey> I'd be scared of pissing of richard henderson.
[03:06] <zul> yeah then they have riots in the bytowne
[03:06] <jbailey> He wears steel toe boots to his talks.
[03:06] <fabbione> ahahah
[03:08] <chmj> hahahaha
[03:51] <fabbione> cool
[04:51] <chmj> fabbione, have you made changes to kwatch ?
[04:52] <fabbione> chmj: yes.. i removed the spaces as you told me to
[04:52] <fabbione> and updated a few versions
[04:52] <fabbione> (hit: running baz update before starting changes is a life saver)
[04:54] <chmj> yeah, I know, I updated before changing, but that was a while ago
[04:55] <fabbione> chmj: second hint: commit more often :)
[04:55] <chmj> fabbione: sure, I have a reaaaaalllllyyy slow connection
[04:56] <fabbione> so do i.. only 2M/512k
[04:56] <fabbione> i need to get that 100Mb connection to the 10GB city ring
[04:57] <fabbione> anyway i am off for a while
[04:57] <fabbione> i am too tired to keep going
[04:58] <chmj> 2MB, and you complaining ?
[07:22] <brodmann> i'm trying to extract a .run file, but everytime it extracts to the folder, when it's finished, it deletes that tmp folder
[09:50] <karlheg> Anyone know how I can get source to jbailey's udev-klibc?  'apt-src' cannot find it.
[09:51] <karlheg> He's marked away, in transit to conferences.  I'll check his website.


[23:42] <KE1HA> davvo, just FYI, there is a bug regarding the Black Screen On Boot issue.
[23:42] <mikeru> KE1HA: indeed
[23:43] <mikeru> your options are:
[23:43] <mikeru> disable ACPI (acpi=off)
[23:43] <mikeru> disable second core (nosmp)
[23:43] <KE1HA> or at least for Ubuntu
[23:43] <mikeru> KE1HA: it's on the kernel bug tracker
[23:43] <mikeru> or
[23:43] <mikeru> what I did
[23:43] <UkeKun> asking again, anyone with an arm-xscale toolchain i'm desperately in need of one thing compiling to fix a bricked router so pm if you can help
[23:43] <mikeru> since I didn't want those off
[23:43] <m_> hello
[23:44] <davvo> right :) ok, im looking for my power chord! :D
[23:44] <davvo> haha
[23:44] <mikeru> get grub-efi-amd64 and do a very long procedure, since that blank screen problem is not present when booting from EFI
[23:44] <mikeru> now
[23:44] <mikeru> you probably don't want to do the last one
[23:44] <KE1HA> UkeKun, I found somethign on 9.04 Gnuarm: http://blog.nutaksas.com/2009/05/installing-gnuarm-arm-toolchain-on.html
[23:44] <davvo> yeah
[23:45] <mikeru> davvo: it's just for recovery, right?
[23:45] <mikeru> just do acpi=off
[23:45] <davvo> i mean its werid, because OSX load and then sleeps straight away - hardware wise are there any other reasons why that would happen
[23:45] <KE1HA> I've not used it, so dont know fer sure if that will work for you.
[23:45] <davvo> yeah its just for recovery
[23:45] <UkeKun> KE1HA i think that's the wrong endianness for the xscale
[23:45] <mikeru> have you tried Apple+S when the Apple logo shows up?
[23:45] <KE1HA> rr, Im not an ARM expert fer sure.
[23:45] <mikeru> it will start OS X in Verbose mode
[23:45] <davvo> right, no i havnt i tried hardware test and setup
[23:46] <Fernandos> nobuddyy?
[23:46] <davvo> aka D on start up
[23:46] <mikeru> I might be of help if you tell me the last thing you see
[23:46] <mikeru> davvo: it's not actually a hardware test
[23:46] <davvo> isnt it?
[23:46] <KE1HA> UkeKun, here's one fer an xscal cros-compiler: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-programming-scripting/145733-building-xscale-cross-compiler-problems.html
[23:46] <davvo> memory checker?
[23:46] <mikeru> davvo: it's like booting ubuntu without plymouth
[23:47] <mikeru> davvo: it just means, instead of seeing the spinning "Intermediate Progress Bar" wheel and the grey apple
[23:47] <davvo> i mean, if i can boot OSX at the most minimal level.....
[23:47] <mikeru> davvo: you'll see a white-on-black text console with the kernel's wise sayings
[23:47] <davvo> same with ubuntu
[23:47] <KE1HA> Maybe those guys have some insite for you UkeKun
[23:47] <mikeru> davvo: but will boot straight to OSX
[23:47] <UkeKun> KE1HA I saw that when I was looking earlier, it doesn't give any useful information he just ends up saying he couldn't successfully compile glibc
[23:48] <radar3d|DT> I have a new install of ubuntu amd64 on my HP AMD athlon quad core computer and when I boot it up and it goes to the login screen the computer locks up any ideas?
[23:48] <KE1HA> rrr .. you may be stuck in google madness fer a while on this one.
[23:48] <davvo> right ok, im gonna have to try this later i think ive left my power adapter at my girlfriends AND just because life is fantastic my batterys now dry
[23:48] <UkeKun> davvo if you can get OSX with no video output then you can use SFTP to get your files off
[23:48] <davvo> right yeah that sounds good
[23:48] <radar3d|DT> googling my problem says it is n nvidia driver issue?
[23:49] <mikeru> UkeKun: he's saying that it goes to sleep
[23:49] <davvo> it standbys
[23:49] <the_e> hey guys, I'm having a problem with xpad
[23:49] <UkeKun> mikeru do macbooks have wake on lan at all :P
[23:49] <the_e> I have it installed, but it isn't letting my 360 controller work?
[23:49] <mikeru> davvo: if the power LED is fading, then it is indeed in sleep-standby
[23:49] <rewati> hi i need to uninstall these gostwares but i am getting error . I am not able to install and uninstall any app on my system these are the errors : http://pastebin.com/R0XkbY2A
[23:49] <davvo> yep
[23:49] <mikeru> UkeKun: they do, but it's disabled by default
[23:49] <mikeru> davvo: in that case, SFTP will do no good.
[23:50] <davvo> OSX stays on (log in screen) for about 2 - 10 seconds
[23:50] <davvo> then sleeps
[23:50] <mikeru> davvo: AH-
[23:50] <davvo> as i say - water damaged
[23:50] <mikeru> I think
[23:50] <mikeru> maybe
[23:50] <mikeru> and then - just maybe
[23:50] <mikeru> whatever checks if the lid is closed was water damaged
[23:50] <whiteknight> I have a lexmark x5400 series, any idea where I can get a driver that will do more than spit paper at me?
[23:50] <mikeru> and so os x goes to sleep
[23:50] <davvo> yep!
[23:51] <davvo> what im hoping is - i can try all these things out just so i can access my hard drive at admin level so i can backup, delete card numbers, then send my lappy off to repair
[23:51] <mikeru> davvo: hmm
[23:51] <mikeru> lemme think
[23:52] <davvo> i have been offered to borrow a macbook from someone but that wont be for a while
[23:52] <davvo> the quicker i get this off to repair the better :)
[23:52] <UkeKun> KE1HA I would try getting an old version of ubuntu and compile the toolchain there but the only internet on my desktop is an N-wireless card that's only been supported properly (no random drops) in 10.04
[23:53] <mikeru> davvo: sorry I'm not in OS X and I don't have the time to go there
[23:53] <mikeru> davvo: try backuping with ubuntu live cd
[23:53] <davvo> don't worry, apprciated
[23:53] <KE1HA> whiteknight, Lexmark is one of the most Un-Linux Friendly printers availble. I've not found too many sucess stories regarding drivers. HP on the other hand,, Supports Linux well.
[23:53] <davvo> ok, using acpi-off ?
[23:53] <davvo> =
[23:53] <mikeru> acpi=off
[23:53] <mikeru> yup
[23:54] <mikeru> remember
[23:54] <davvo> yep, im kinda ok with boot options and things :)
[23:54] <the_e> can someone help me with this error msg: ERROR: Module xpad does not exist in /proc/modules/
[23:54] <mikeru> okok
[23:54] <davvo> thank alot guys!
[23:54] <KE1HA> UkeKun, You could install a virtual Desktoip and load whatever version you needed there.
[23:54] <mikeru> whiteknight: listen to the words of wisdom from KE1HA. lexmark plain sucks
[23:54] <mikeru> davvo: did it work
[23:54] <mikeru> =
[23:54] <mikeru> ?
[23:54] <trojan_spike> xpad sticky notes?
[23:54] <FloodBot4> mikeru: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:54] <the_e> xpad for 360 controller
[23:55] <the_e> its confusing....I thought the same thing
[23:55] <mikeru> xpad vs xboxdrv - which one?
[23:55] <the_e> thats the thing
[23:55] <mikeru> the_e
[23:55] <the_e> I'm trying to get xboxdrv to work
[23:55] <the_e> (for XBMC)
[23:55] <linguini> ubuntu only displays 800x600 for my admittedly old but much more capable Sony GDM-20F03.  How can I go about getting a better, correct resolution?
[23:55] <the_e> but I'm getting an error following the rules, but I did it before and couldnt remember how
[23:55] <mikeru> linguini: enable Restricted Drivers
[23:55] <UkeKun> what mikeru said
[23:56] <linguini> I installed ddcprobe, but running it as sudo seemed to freeze the machine...
[23:56] <mikeru> ddcprobe?
[23:56] <linguini> mikeru, Ah, I'll look for that...
[23:56] <mikeru> why
[23:56] <whiteknight> KEIMA.  Thanx, guees i'll keep using windows to print..  Amy idea what HP model works best?
[23:56] <mikeru> System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[23:56] <mikeru> on Gnome menu
[23:56] <teamcoltra> I am having this weird issue that started popping up where when I come out of screensaver it asks me to put in my password, then I put it in, and as soon as I move the mouse it flips back to the locked screen and I have to put in my password again
[23:57] <UkeKun> brb i can't stand the noise of my gpu with no driver loaded  :P
[23:57] <the_e> my script is export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=.  rmmod xpad modprobe uinput modprobe joydev ./xbox_for_XBMC_live.v1 --wid 0 -s -l 2 --dpad-as-button --deadzone 12000 -- trigger as z-axis
[23:57] <the_e> but I get ERROR: Module xpad does not exist in /proc/modules/ and ./script.sh: line 11 ./xboxdrv_blah is a directory
[23:57] <the_e> the folder names are correct in terminal
[23:57] <the_e> im just using a different PC for IRC
[23:58] <linguini> mikeru, "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system."  Hmm
[23:58] <mikeru> linguini: they aren't in use, but are they available?
[23:58] <whiteknight> I ado appriciate the help to all...guess I beeter fork out anf get another printer..any suggestions?
[23:59] <linguini> There are none listed in what appears to be a list dialog box...
[23:59] <mikeru> ah
[23:59] <mikeru> then
[23:59] <mikeru> linguini: open a terminal and type 'lspci'
[23:59] <mikeru> then pastebin it
[23:59] <Mr_Sonoma> whiteknight, the 1522nf (multi function printer) has served me well for years
[23:59] <mikeru> whiteknight: HP


[01:39] <Kangarooo> bug/1958046 how to make apport notofications to pop up in notification bubble?
[01:40] <Kangarooo> bug 1958046 how to make apport notofications to pop up in notification bubble? so that with kill -SIGBUS $$ or someting i could make fake crash and apport would show notification
[01:41] <Kangarooo> in 18.04 its out of box. in 21.04 i didnt got notification up just crash file in /var/crashes and no popup
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all.
[13:04] <dbonsch> aloha
[19:21] <Name_WithheldFL> I Downloaded KUBUNTU. Can't figure out the next step.:(  How do I install?
[20:03] <emtiu> i'm about to set up a work laptop for the long haul, and i'd like to give it kubuntu 22.04 LTS. the daily build live disk runs quite well. is there any significant drawback (except the "unfinished product caveats) to installing a 22.04 LTS daily preview on the machine and then "riding it out" until the release?
[20:17] <valorie> emtiu: I've done that a few times
[20:17] <valorie> you might want to join #kubuntu-devel and keep an eye out for problems that testers are reporting
[20:18] <valorie> be sure you have good backups in case everything blows up!
[20:19] <valorie> also be aware that you can install it in a VM for testing for yourself
[20:24] <emtiu> valorie: good tips, thank you :)
[22:48] <user|70> Hello
[22:48] <user|70> Anyone here


[09:41] <wgrant> Is it intentional that branches for a project's development series are named lp:<project>/<series> outside their project page? Shouldn't it just be lp:<project>?
[09:43] <BasicOSX>  Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[09:43] <BasicOSX> Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.
[09:43] <BasicOSX> Thanks for your patience.
[09:44] <wgrant> BasicOSX: Where did you get that error?
[10:42] <danilos>  https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: danilos |<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:14] <hennige> Just my luck - dev.launchpad.net seems to be offline. Do you know anything about that, danilos?
[12:15] <danilos> hennige: I just accidentally plugged the cord out of the socket, sorry, I'll plug it back in :)
[12:15] <hennige> danilos: please do that ;)
[12:18] <mrevell> hennige: I've asked IS to take a look. help.lp.net seems to be affected too
[12:24] <mrevell> The dev and help wikis are back online
[12:58] <theseinfeld> what is going on with launchpad that is so slow
[13:00] <theseinfeld> network timeout, the server bugs.launchpad.net is taking too long to respond...
[13:04] <papapep> hi! i've got a little problem that I would ask to you if there's a way to solve it...
[13:04] <papapep> launchpad related, of course
[13:05] <papapep> thanks: it seems I registered twice in launchpad, the first one I don't remember exactly when, and another one afterwoods, about two years ago.
[13:06] <papapep> now I've got two accounts, but the one active, the last one
[13:06] <papapep> has not exactly the name I want
[13:06] <nhandler> papapep: You can merge the accounts
[13:06] <papapep> wow! really?
[13:06] <papapep> how?
[13:07] <nhandler> One second, I'll get a link
[13:08] <wgrant> papapep: Note that you can also easily change your account's name.
[13:08] <nhandler> https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge
[13:08] <papapep> wgrant: well, not really, when I try to update the second account name, lauchpad
[13:08] <papapep> tells its occupied by another account (the first one...)
[13:09] <papapep> nhandler: thanks a lot, I'll try to do it
[13:09] <nhandler> :)
[13:11] <papapep> nhandler: another problem....I don't have the mail account that I entered in the first account, so I am not able to receive  the instructions ....
[13:11] <papapep> it seems I registered really a long time ago, the first time...as I don't have this mail account for ages
[13:11] <nhandler> papapep: Then I think a Launchpad admin will need to do it for you.
[13:11] <nhandler> But I'm not sure
[13:12] <papapep> perhaps sending a mail to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:12] <papapep> or is there any admin here?
[13:13] <kiko> papapep, I can merge accounts for you
[13:13] <kiko> if that's what you need
[13:13] <kiko> what are the accounts
[13:14] <papapep> kiko: thanks!
[13:14] <papapep> papapep, and papapep-gmail
[13:14] <kiko> papapep, which one do you want to keep?
[13:15] <papapep> papapep-gmail, afterwoods I'll change its name to papapep :-)
[13:16] <kiko>     *<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:16] <kiko> okidoki
[13:16] <kiko> papapep, done!
[13:16] <papapep> thanks a lot!
[13:16] <kiko> merging accounts is pretty cool
[13:16] <papapep> yes!
[13:16] <kiko> no problem, if you need anything else just ask
[13:20]  * wgrant suspects that LH needs a good kicking.
[13:24] <kiko> I hear somebody's going to work on LH next friday! :)
[13:24] <beuno> and thursday!
[13:24] <wgrant> And yesterday. Or was it the day before?
[13:25] <wgrant> LH isn't entirely dead, but it times out more often than not and never gives me anything more than the title when it does work.
[13:25] <kiko> that's the usual #launchpad trio's positive vibe I'm getting :)
[13:26] <Hobbsee> kiko-phone: glad to see that you keep getting what you expect.  Wouldn't want to disappoint, after all.
[13:27] <wgrant> No, no, I actually recall somebody lp-bzrish saying a day or two ago that he was going to work on it 'tomorrow'.
[13:27] <kiko-phone> they  have medication for the permanently depressed you know!!
[13:27] <kiko-phone> wgrant, maybe michael, but the plan is for a sprint (not a splint) next week in buenos aires
[13:27] <wgrant> Aha.
[13:27] <beuno> wgrant, mwhudson has been working on making LH and Apache get along better
[13:28] <wgrant> Hey, it works now. And it's quick. Excellent.
[13:28] <beuno> and, as kiko-phone mentioned, I have special guests next week!  :)
[13:28] <wgrant> beuno: Good to know.
[14:18] <kfogel> Can anyone translate this? http://linmagazine.co.il/enterprise/2009/01/16/launchpad-under-agpl
[14:18] <kfogel> (Is it just repeating what the English says, in Hebrew?)
[14:19] <vadi2> Launchpad today is awfully slow today (some actions don't even complete but get a network timeout). Is this known?
[14:19] <stdin> kfogel: http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=&hl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Flinmagazine.co.il%2Fenterprise%2F2009%2F01%2F16%2Flaunchpad-under-agpl&sl=auto&tl=en
[14:20] <theseinfeld> vadi2 yes
[14:20] <theseinfeld> vadi2 and it sucks!
[14:20] <vadi2> yeah
[14:21] <theseinfeld> I've been fighting with it for the last 3 hours, almost...
[14:21] <theseinfeld> and there are many things that fail due to slow LP, like uscan to check upstream etc...
[14:21] <jpds> Some *.ubuntu.com sites are going slowly for me too, maybe someone's poking stuff in the DC.
[14:21] <theseinfeld> yeah, jpds, I also had issues with wiki today... didn't check all...
[14:22] <theseinfeld> might be related to alpha3? release yesterday?
[14:23] <Ng> there are no current undertakings in our datacentres
[14:24] <theseinfeld> so any valid explanation? I asked also in #launchpad-dev about this
[14:24] <danilos> theseinfeld, vadi2: Launchpad team is working to resolve the issues, we believe we know what the root cause is
[14:25] <vadi2> danilos: thank you
[14:25] <theseinfeld> thanks danilos
[14:25] <theseinfeld> hope is not DoS attack...
[14:29] <danilos> theseinfeld: no, it's actually a step in improving performance (increasing redundancy) that is causing us "slight" issues
[14:29] <danilos> theseinfeld: it's being actively worked on, afaik
[14:30] <kfogel> stdin: thanks.  heh, it translates "Canonical" as "Knonikal"
[14:30] <stdin> kfogel: yeah, I noticed that too
[14:43] <maxb> The last comment in bug 125103 implied signed ppas would be this week... maybe someone in the know could add a revised estimate?
[14:45] <danilos> maxb: next Launchpad release is scheduled for January 28th
[14:46] <danilos> maxb: oh, sorry, this is already released
[14:46] <maxb> If the information in the bug is to be believed, the code has already been released, and it's just the lack of key generation
[14:46] <danilos> maxb: and we do have signed PPAs afaik, let me check with teammates
[14:46] <maxb> Celso's PPA is signed. I think that's about it for now?
[14:47] <bigjools> right, we're waiting on some hardware with a random number generator so that there's enough entropy to sign all the PPAs
[14:48] <bigjools> it'll be ready when it's ready, I don't know any more
[14:49] <maxb> Would be great to have that in the bug comments, rather than an estimated date which is about to pass
[14:50] <savvas> random number generator ?
[14:51] <bigjools> yes, you need one to generate entropy
[14:52] <savvas> oh cool
[14:52] <savvas> wait.. the entropy I know has to do with energy and biometabolism :P
[14:53] <savvas> never mind, I'll search for it
[14:53] <nhandler> savvas: When you generate a key, you are told to move your mouse around and do stuff like that to make it more random. Same idea here
[14:53] <jgastal> danilos: Hi, I'm considering hosting my open source project on launchpad it however does not yet have some features I want, is there someplace where I can find info on what features are targeted for the 2.2.1 and subsequent releases?
[14:54] <savvas> nice hehe
[14:54] <jpds> I usually hit: ctrl, alt, shift keys.
[14:55] <danilos> jgastal: yeah, go to https://launchpad.net/launchpad-project and look at milestone pages (though, they are usually filled in only for one or two future milestones)
[14:55] <danilos> jgastal: for longer term planning, we've got some data on https://dev.launchpad.net/VersionThreeDotO as well
[14:56] <jgastal> danilos: thanks, I'll look at both of those
[14:57] <danilos> jgastal: btw, do you mind sharing what bits are missing for you to be able to use Launchpad?
[14:58] <savvas> nhandler: how much do such machines cost, out of curiosity?
[14:58] <jgastal> danilos: not at all, there is one thing that for me is crucial, that is not yet available, that is some form of document sharing, like being able to upload an image or a text file to a blueprint
[14:58] <nhandler> savvas: I have no idea.
[14:58] <savvas> ok
[14:58] <jgastal> danilos: another feature I would really like, but is not crucial is a project wiki.
[14:59] <jgastal> danilos: I see both are proposed in the blueprints section of launchpad itself so I'm hoping they are scheduled to be implemented soon
[14:59] <danilos> jgastal: ah, nice, both have been discussed over and over again, but nothing has been agreed on so far: since everybody is interested in those, it might happen sooner than anticipated, but it's hard to predict
[15:00] <danilos> jgastal: it would mean some reshuffling of priorities, so it's hard to say when (considering it's also not the simplest thing around to implement)
[15:01] <jgastal> danilos: Ah yes, I was about to ask what the issue might be. There is always a lack of developers. I imagine it would be quite cumbersome to implement that for something the size of launchpad.
[15:03] <jgastal> danilos: forgot to mention something else I would like but also not crucial(and probably dificult to implement) is a "help wanted" section, where projects could post what kind of help they are seeking.
[15:03] <danilos> jgastal: indeed, and everybody in the team would like to see that happen too :)
[15:04] <danilos> jgastal: yeah, that one is probably of low priority, which means not in the near future
[15:04] <danilos> low == lower than other stuff we mentioned here
[15:04] <danilos> :)
[15:04] <jgastal> danilos: that I imagined, but I guess being in launchpad might be enough to atract attention of people wanting to help so....
[15:04] <jgastal> hehe
[15:05] <jgastal> of courser we always want to add features, it is just not easy.
[15:05] <danilos> it's not that hard to add features, it's harder to keep them working with everything else :)
[15:07] <jgastal> well, thanks for the help. Got to go now.
[15:19] <ignas> hi
[15:19] <ignas> is there any open document on the internet that describes the way in which you are functionally testing launchpad?
[15:20] <ignas> I am interested in - how are you creating the in memory (i assume) testing databases
[15:20] <ignas> from what I know launchpad is using some kind of SQL database to store the data
[15:21] <danilos> ignas: I don't know of any, though we'll probably be making our internal documentation public in the next few months
[15:21] <danilos> ignas: it will show up on https://dev.launchpad.net/
[15:21] <ignas> danilos: can you at least tell me the principle?
[15:22] <ignas> danilos: like - are you using sqlite for testing and mysql for deployment
[15:22] <ignas> or setting up a mysql server for each checkout
[15:22] <danilos> ignas: no, database (postgres) is being used for testing as well
[15:22] <danilos> ignas: I haven't worked much on the testing infrastructure, so don't know much more
[15:22] <ignas> i see, are you setting up one for every checkout, or are developers just creating a "testing" database in their system postgress install
[15:23] <danilos> ignas: testing database is created by each developer on their own system (though it's done mostly automatically)
[15:24] <ignas> i see, so it's not "bzr branch + make run"  on a clean machine
[15:27] <danilos> ignas: no, initial set-up is a bit more involved
[15:28] <ignas> danilos: thanks for the info
[15:28] <ignas> I am trying to find out what is the industry standard for such a setup ;)
[15:35] <alf> Hello, I was wondering if someone knows what are the planned features regarding launchpad mailing lists.
[15:36] <alf> I am mostly interested in non-team member posting. There is some information scattered in wishlist reports
[15:36] <alf> but nothing about what is actually planned.
[15:38] <danilos> barry: <alf> Hello, I was wondering if someone knows what are the planned features regarding launchpad mailing lists.
[15:38] <danilos>  I am mostly interested in non-team member posting. There is some information scattered in wishlist reports
[15:38] <danilos>  but nothing about what is actually planned.
[15:38] <danilos> alf: just pasting question for barry who just joined and might know the answer :)
[15:38] <alf> danilos: ok, thanks!
[15:39] <barry> alf: non-team members can post to mailing lists today.  the first time you do so, your message will be held for approval.  once approved, you can post freely to that list.  if you get approved on 3 different lists, we consider you a lp member "in good standing" and you can then post to any mailing list freely
[15:40] <barry> alf: is that what you're looking for or something more specific?
[15:43] <alf> barry: I assume that if you are approved, you are approved just as a poster (not as a team member)?
[15:43] <barry> alf: correct
[15:43] <barry> alf: and specifically, you are not subscribed to the ml, meaning you will not get responses if people don't explicitly cc you
[15:44] <barry> alf: our wishlist includes a nosy feature, but that is currently unscheduled
[15:45] <alf> barry: Actually I think I may be looking for such a nosy feature (namely subscribing to a mailing list) without becoming a team member
[15:46] <alf> barry: eg the project-dev team/mailing list
[15:46] <barry> alf: the nosy feature would only "subscribe" you to threads you've started or responded to (the latter which is a bit difficult until we put up an imap or nntp backend)
[15:47] <alf> barry: ok, what about the feature I described above?
[18:24] <cr3> how can I delete a series?
[18:24] <beuno> cr3, you can't currently, it's being worked on
[18:26] <cr3> can an LP administrator please delete this series for me: https://edge.launchpad.net/checkbox/0.3
[18:26] <beuno> bdmurray, ping
[18:27] <beuno> cr3, you'd have to file a question in: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[18:29] <cr3> beuno: done, https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/57719
[18:30] <bdmurray> beuno: pong
[18:31] <beuno> bdmurray, re: bug #317950
[18:31] <beuno> is this the URL that makes you download it:  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gm-dev-launchpad/launchpad-gm-scripts/master/annotate/head%3A/lp_question_comment.user.js  ?
[18:32] <bdmurray> beuno: yes it is
[18:33] <beuno> bdmurray, that's *very* odd, it doesn't for me  (or anything in the code)
[18:33] <bdmurray> beuno: do you have greasemonkey installed?
[18:34] <beuno> bdmurray, I don't
[18:34] <bdmurray> beuno: that is probably why then, I mention it because it used to work.  What did the url used to be?
[18:35] <beuno> bdmurray, the revision id instead of the filename
[18:36] <beuno> er, no
[18:36] <beuno> one sec
[18:38] <beuno> ok, you used to have the revid instead of head:
[18:38] <beuno> and the fileid instead of the filename
[18:39] <beuno> bdmurray, so maybe greasemonkey things that since the URL is the filename, it's suppose to download it?
[18:39] <beuno> it sure didn't end in  *.js
[18:40] <bdmurray> beuno: yes, I agree it is because of the URL ending in the filename
[18:42] <beuno> bdmurray, there's not much I can do about it, since the URL change was explicit so URLs where predicitable
[18:49] <bdmurray> beuno: okay, that makes sense to me
[18:49] <beuno> bdmurray, so are you ok if I mark the bug as "Won't Fix" or "Invalid"?   whatever hurst your feelings less  :)
[18:53] <bdmurray> beuno: Yes, I'm okay with either
[20:54] <Nafallo> hi
[20:55] <Nafallo> could someone take a look and review those please: https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/screen-profiles/+imports


[00:37] <abel> hi
[00:39] <abel> regarding the application "Leds" I want to know what information is missing, and I sent the tarball and they asked me
[00:42] <abel> i will erase the application
[00:42] <abel> I think it's going to happen with this program
[00:43] <abel> thanks for your kindness
[15:01] <ESphynx> hey guys, pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy depends on ia32-libs; --> what does that mean?
[15:15] <zoopster> from what I can tell...without full context...seems pbuilder is trying to figure out what it needs, figured out it needs ia32-libs and likely the next line says it's not installed? pastebin the entire result and it will make more sense
[15:15] <ESphynx> zoopster: the thing is ia32-libs is my list of dependencies
[15:16] <ESphynx> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/93563862/buildlog.txt.gz
[15:26] <james_w> ESphynx, which release is that building on?
[15:27] <ESphynx> james_w: any! they all give this pbuilder dependency error
[15:27] <ESphynx> hardy, natty, lucid, oneirc, precise
[15:28] <ESphynx> See all results @ https://code.launchpad.net/~jerstlouis/+recipe/ecere-daily64
[15:28] <zoopster> james_w: looks like lucid
[15:28] <ESphynx> I am trying to build as 32 bit on 64 bit machine
[15:37] <zoopster> it's a bit over my head, but looking at the oneiric build, the build appears to fail due to the contents in the rules file...the "over my head" part is I don't know what needs to go in there...that's where james_w might be able to help
[15:43] <ESphynx> the guys in #ubuntu-packaging have been helping me out
[15:43] <ESphynx> basically, launchpad doesn't support 64 bit recipes, is what the problem is
[15:43] <zoopster> rock on
[15:43] <zoopster> crap
[15:43] <ESphynx> thanks zoopster.
[15:43] <zoopster> that stinks
[15:48] <ESphynx> arch restrict might work around it


[00:32] <lucas-arg> guys
[00:32] <lucas-arg> i cant shutdown my laptop
[00:32] <lucas-arg> it reboots
[00:42] <holstein> you can try sudo shutdown -h now, and see if you have any helpful messages
[00:42] <lucas-arg> it does not
[00:42] <lucas-arg> system reboots
[00:42] <lucas-arg> ive tried that already
[00:47] <holstein> lucas-arg: and, what were the messages?
[00:47] <holstein> and, you mean, you can reboot it, normally? from the menu of whatever desktop you are using? but, not shutdown? using the menu item, or "sudo shutdown -h now" or, "sudo halt"? etc..
[00:50] <lucas-arg> yeah
[00:50] <lucas-arg> when i do sudo halt system halts and i have to power it off by holding power button
[00:50] <lucas-arg> thats the only way i can power my laptop off
[00:51] <holstein> i would want to work that out ASAP, so you dont have to do that.. if its a spinning drive, that can be dangerous
[04:06] <hyper_ch> hmmm, I guess I have to re-setup my system again
[06:07] <hyper_ch> hmmmm, is there a way to get newer kernels? I'm looking for 4.0.2+
[09:51] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:54] <hyper_ch> it's nice cool outside
[13:13] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:15] <hyper_ch> hi BluesKaj
[13:15] <BluesKaj> hi hyper_ch
[13:16] <hyper_ch> I guess I need to re-setup my system again
[13:17] <lordievader> hyper_ch: Why?
[13:17] <hyper_ch> I'm not happy with btrfs performance
[13:17] <hyper_ch> it keeps locking up my notebook randomly for 5-10 secs