[21:08] <Squawk> mehrab, possibly misnamed partition in fstab?
[21:08] <Odd-rationale> MrMist: You can install a different theme
[21:08] <fliegenderfrosch> MrMist: I'm not sure if that's actually possible with metacity
[21:08] <[43zla]> anyone saw my question ?
[21:08] <[43zla]> >_>
[21:08] <AstorZZZ> So how do i get a simple hello world up and running with Anjuta?
[21:08] <mehrab> Squawk: let me see
[21:08] <riad> any help pls
[21:08] <icyak> with what?
[21:09] <riad> shutdown
[21:09] <utkan0s> chat moves fast guys, repeat your q
[21:09] <ere4si> MrMist, you can do that in the gconf editor
[21:09] <Odd-rationale> MrMist: Some themes have the buttons on the left. see http://art.gnome.org or http://gnome-look.org for more details
[21:09] <Joff> i need help with NVIDIA driver install for my card to use its full 3d application, its a Nvidia 8600 GT XXX edition and when i try to use the pkg supplied by NVIDIA it says you do not have your distro's libc header files please get your libc development package? can anyone understand this one?
[21:09] <[43zla]> REPEAT: Does,somebody around here know a good .swf editor for ubuntu.
[21:09] <DRebellion_> AstorZZZ, how to run it? open up a terminal and type ./nameofprogram
[21:09] <pir1> zosso: confusing file, but it looks like nvidia is all over that file .. the only thing about vesa is  "# This file was generated by failsafeDexconf, using
[21:09] <pir1> # values from the debconf database and some overrides to use vesa mode."
[21:09] <DRebellion_> AstorZZZ, use cd to get to the correct folder first of course
[21:09] <mehrab> Squawk: nno that is correct, I didnt changed fstab
[21:10] <riad> any body can help
[21:10] <icyak> what with shutdown?
[21:10] <fliegenderfrosch> CorruptTerrorist: and which ubuntu version are you using?
[21:10] <DRebellion_> !patience | riad
[21:10] <ubotu> riad: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[21:10] <whileimhere> i get a message that my wmv is encrypted is there any way around it?
[21:10] <MrMist> ere4si: How do I do that with the gconf editor ?
[21:10] <CorruptTerrorist> fliegenderfrosch, 7.10
[21:10] <pir1> zossso even ..
[21:10] <Squawk> mehrab, try fsck on /dev/hda#, the one that represents that uuid, see what that gives?
[21:10] <brambo> can anyone help me?
[21:10] <brambo> im having an audio issue
[21:10] <DRebellion_> !info swftools | riad
[21:10] <ubotu> riad: swftools (source: swftools): Collection of utilities for SWF file manipulation/creation. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.1-1 (gutsy), package size 1867 kB, installed size 4480 kB
[21:10] <utkan0s> Joff, what package are you trying
[21:10] <fliegenderfrosch> CorruptTerrorist: that's a bit strange, because the kernel version in 7.10 is 2.6.22
[21:10] <DRebellion_> !info swftools | [43zla]
[21:10] <ubotu> [43zla]: swftools (source: swftools): Collection of utilities for SWF file manipulation/creation. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.1-1 (gutsy), package size 1867 kB, installed size 4480 kB
[21:10] <DRebellion_> riad, sorry, wrong person
[21:11] <riad> my dear i tried all websites and i need to solve my problem to deploy ubuntu for 250 users
[21:11] <mehrab> Squaw: I dont know how?
[21:11] <utkan0s> riad, what shutdown issue
[21:11] <AstorZZZ> DRebellion_: except there's no executable there
[21:11] <Joff> im using the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-169.09-pkg1.run
[21:11]  * [43zla] slaps ubotu around a bit with Invader Zim's iron fist
[21:11] <[43zla]> thx i'll try it
[21:11] <AstorZZZ> although anjuta showed no problems compiling it
[21:11] <[43zla]> i installed swftools already some of them
[21:11] <[43zla]> but don't know how to use it
[21:11] <zossso> pirl: Should see something like 'Driver          "nvidia"'
[21:11] <sleek> is there a way to build an ubuntu live cd without an installer? but rather, it just runs via disk?
[21:11] <brambo> soon as i start up i can listen to audio through VLC Media player but when i try to use XMMS it thinks the sound is already in use but it isn't?
[21:11] <pir1> yeah .. I see that about .. 4 times
[21:11] <riad> im not able to shutdown my pc by any command, i have to press and hold the power bottun
[21:12] <[43zla]> how to run swftools ?
[21:12] <brambo> i need to use XMMS for internet radio
[21:12] <DRebellion_> AstorZZZ, I have no idea how to use anjuta. I can tell you that you should use  g++ code.cpp -o nameofprogram and then ./nameofprogram.
[21:12] <rikkimaru> Odd-rationale: yes, my original system still works
[21:12] <mehrab> Squawk: and I think I dont have /dev/hda
[21:12] <puller> I am getting an error when installing ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4410213#post4410213
[21:12] <ere4si> MrMist, apps - metacity - general - button layout - move the menu to the end and put the colon before menu e.g. minimize,maximise,close:menu
[21:12] <utkan0s> Joff try nvidia-glx-new
[21:12] <CorruptTerrorist> fliegenderfrosch, http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s26/joethecomputer/Screenshot-synaptic.png
[21:12] <Odd-rationale> rikkimaru: Are the partition sizes correct?
[21:12] <AstorZZZ> DRebellion_: And how do i debug it?
[21:12] <DRebellion_> riad, what happens when you try to shut down?
[21:12] <Squawk> mehrab, have a look in /etc/fstab and see which partition relates to that uuid. It must exist
[21:12] <brambo> anyone have any idea why it does this?
[21:12] <CorruptTerrorist> fliegenderfrosch, if relevant, http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s26/joethecomputer/00001.jpg
[21:12] <DRebellion_> AstorZZZ, you need to debug a helloworld app? what exactly is the error message you receive?
[21:12] <rikkimaru> Odd-rationale: they're the same as they've always been
[21:12] <pir1> zossso : I was lying to you :P it's two times
[21:12] <riad> it is just giving blank screen
[21:13] <AstorZZZ> DRebellion_: How can i compile a opengl app with g++?
[21:13] <Joff> have tried that and i still cannot use things like the compiz cube
[21:13] <prasanna> is there away we can disable the 'keyring' when the pc boots up? i know its related to the wireless connection
[21:13] <zossso> pirl: Is it commented out?  (# in front of the lines)
[21:13] <DRebellion_> riad, does it go through any shutdown procedure?
[21:13] <pir1> no, it's not
[21:13] <utkan0s> what command are you issuing riad
[21:13] <Odd-rationale> rikkimaru: so the resize did not work?
[21:13] <rikkimaru> Odd-rationale: nope
[21:13] <prasanna> everytime i read a solution found on google, it ends up causing more problems
[21:13] <pir1> oh .. yeah, one of them is
[21:13] <DRebellion_> AstorZZZ, look up some opengl c++ tutorials on the net or buy/rent a book
[21:13] <prasanna> in relation to this problem i mean
[21:13] <rikkimaru> Odd-rationale: i'll try it on the livecd again, perhaps get a more useful error
[21:13] <eliran> can anyone here help with enabling 3D i have Nvidia 8800GT and its intel based system
[21:13] <riad> either the menu commands or command line like sudo shutdown -h now
[21:13] <fliegenderfrosch> CorruptTerrorist: not sure, but maybe it helps if you remove the old kernels
[21:13] <AstorZZZ> DRebellion_: hell, no, i expect to proceed with more complex apps, how do i debug em?
[21:13] <Odd-rationale> rikkimaru: You might want to try the official live GParted CD.
[21:14] <iPod-nano> Someone tell me where to find the asterisk sound files.
[21:14] <CorruptTerrorist> fliegenderfrosch, how?
[21:14] <fliegenderfrosch> CorruptTerrorist: just search for "linux-image" in synaptic
[21:14] <brambo> Can anyone help me with my audio issue?
[21:14] <DRebellion_> AstorZZZ, perhaps you should learn gdb
[21:14] <riad> yes it goes through the procedure but it doesnt power off or show anything
[21:14] <AstorZZZ> DRebellion_: usually books dont cover compiling opengl apps with g++ from terminal
[21:14] <fliegenderfrosch> CorruptTerrorist: and remove the older ones
[21:14] <zossso> pirl: As long as one is not commented out, it is fine
[21:14] <mehrab> Squawk: ok, ok I think I realized what happened
[21:14] <Squawk> CorruptTerrorist, you trying to get nvidia working with a new kernel? if so, prepare to bang you head against a wall for days
[21:15] <prasanna> no ones been able to solve the keyring at boot up issue
[21:15] <pir1> ok .. then it should be fine then ? but it calls it "Failsafe device" ?
[21:15] <prasanna> ?
[21:15] <utkan0s> riad can you issue a shutdown -h now and then dump the contents of ps aux to pastebin
[21:15] <tanath> my flash keeps freezing in epiphany
[21:15] <utkan0s> it sounds like something is holding it up
[21:15] <fliegenderfrosch> prasanna: what exactly is your issue?
[21:15] <nickrud_> AstorZZZ: you might be better served asking these questions on ##c and ##c++
[21:15] <zossso> pirl: sounds like your failsafe device is nvidia.  failsafe should be vesa..  Strange
[21:15] <pir1> hm
[21:16] <AstorZZZ> nickrud_: well, its relevant, because i'm looking for a working-out of the box IDE for ubuntu
[21:16] <pir1> so .. then I should try to make vesa fail ... ? :P
[21:16] <prasanna> the keyring pop up at startup
[21:16] <zossso> pirl: want to send me your xorg.conf?
[21:16] <pir1> ok
[21:16] <fliegenderfrosch> prasanna: which ubuntu version are you using?
[21:16] <prasanna> having to enter it everytime it boots up, must be away to automatically have it registered
[21:16] <brambo> What can i do so my XMMS works? it seems to think my audio is in use but I can play MP3's on VLC fine
[21:16] <pir1> if I'm able to find it .. :P *noob*
[21:16] <CorruptTerrorist> Package linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic has no available version, but exists in the database.
[21:16] <prasanna> 7.10
[21:16] <zossso> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:16] <CorruptTerrorist> ^^ that's the problem
[21:16] <nickrud_> AstorZZZ: you're gonna find more people who do compilation there. c and c++ is not specific to ubuntu, and this is meant to be a support channel for ubuntu issues
[21:17] <riad> how to dump ps contents...i cannot see anything in the screen once i issue the command
[21:17] <Odd-rationale> OK I'm out of here
[21:17] <samel> hi
[21:17] <CorruptTerrorist> right... how do i reinstall ubuntu?
[21:17] <neverblue> brambo, something else has a handle on your audio, you can logout/back in to get it to release, or, if FF is open, that might be doing it, shut down all your instances of FF
[21:17] <DRebellion_> riad, you should
[21:17] <flowOver> anyone have experience getting pdt setup with eclipse and other plugins so that it doesn't crash?
[21:17] <fliegenderfrosch> prasanna: have you used the common-pamkeyring workaround in feisty and then upgraded?
[21:17] <jeffMASTERflex> AstorZZZ: try this guide for compiling and running C++ apps with g++. It is really easy to follow
[21:17] <utkan0s> riad so everything goes black immediately after issuing that shell command?
[21:17] <DRebellion_> CorruptTerrorist, just like you installed it
[21:17] <brambo> FF  ?
[21:17] <riad> yes
[21:17] <jeffMASTERflex> AstorZZZ: http://gentoo-wiki.com/StartingCPP
[21:18] <utkan0s> are you doing this within X
[21:18] <prasanna> no, was a fresh 7.10 install
[21:18] <brambo> neverblue: FF ? what is this?
[21:18] <neverblue> brambo, FireFox
[21:18] <AstorZZZ> jeffMASTERflex: thanks!
[21:18] <DRebellion_> brambo, feature freeze for ubuntu+1 (was on feb 14th)
[21:18] <brambo> neverblue: firefox is using my audio ?
[21:18] <prasanna> i realize its related to the wireless connection
[21:18] <neverblue> brambo, re-read, I said if
[21:19] <fliegenderfrosch> prasanna: is libpam-gnome-keyring installed?
[21:19] <brambo> neverblue: I'll try to logout in back in
[21:19] <utkan0s> riad are you doing this within X
[21:19] <pir1> zossso: looks like I'm having a lot of them :P like xorg.conf5, xorg.conf backup etc.
[21:19] <ere4si> MrMist, any luck?
[21:19] <pir1> receiving ?
[21:19] <CorruptTerrorist> wow... a reinstall after 1 day
[21:19] <riad> what do u mean by within X
[21:19] <prasanna> let me check
[21:19] <brambo> neverblue: its done this before but then suddently worked again in a little bit
[21:19] <Joff> utkan0s: as i say im new to this and i dont understand why i cannot install this new driver release from nvidia? is it something im doing wrong? or is something missing
[21:19] <brambo> neverblue: i have audio but just XMMS dont wanna play
[21:19] <neverblue> with a nick like that CorruptTerrorist, I would imagine that everyday :D
[21:19] <utkan0s> are you at a GUI or just at a CLI riad
[21:20] <fliegenderfrosch> CorruptTerrorist: i still don't think reinstalling is necessary
[21:20] <utkan0s> Joff is glibc installed
[21:20] <riad> GUI
[21:20] <zossso> pirl: not receiving yet
[21:20] <riad> but i cn use terminal
[21:20] <utkan0s> riad gnome or kde
[21:20] <CorruptTerrorist> fliegenderfrosch, give me an alternative
[21:20] <pir1> should I try to send it again ?
[21:20] <neverblue> brambo, as I explained, something has a hold of your audio, and isnt releasing it to xmms, thats all I can say
[21:20] <prasanna> fliegenderfrosch, yes it is
[21:20] <zossso> pirl: sure
[21:20] <riad> gnome
[21:20] <prasanna> should it be?
[21:20] <riad> yes
[21:20] <wigliam> where is possible to install the latest glibc from the repo
[21:20] <fliegenderfrosch> prasanna: hm... then there should be a checkbox in the password dialog not to show the dialog again
[21:20] <brambo> neverblue: ok ill just logout n back in and see what happens
[21:20] <utkan0s> riad /etc/init.d/gdm stop ..this will kill X
[21:21] <utkan0s> issue a shutdown when you get back to the terminal
[21:21] <Joff> utkan0s: how would i check this?
[21:21] <fliegenderfrosch> CorruptTerrorist: reloading of the packages list doesn't help neither?
[21:21] <utkan0s> Joff try synaptic package manager, search for glibc
[21:21] <pir1> zossso: maybe I have to configure this irc-thingy as well .. ? ;D
[21:21] <utkan0s> riad you will most likely lose connection to us, im curious what happens when you issue a shutdown from outside of x
[21:21] <Joff> utkan0s there is a glibc-doc that is not installed, is this what you mean?
[21:22] <danand> Joff - apt-cache search glibc
[21:22] <utkan0s> no
[21:22] <utkan0s> joff what else is there
[21:22] <utkan0s> that isnt installed
[21:22] <MrMist> ere4si: there's got to be a editor for this !? Can I create my own theme ?
[21:23] <prasanna> no checkbox
[21:23] <ere4si> MrMist, could you open the gconf editor?
[21:23] <Joff> utkan0s: too many to list
[21:24] <ere4si> MrMist, gnome-look has a tutorial for theme making
[21:24] <zossso> pirl: ...or the transfer problem is on my end.  I'm new to this IRC client
[21:24] <Joff> utkan0s: glibc on its own is not in the list
[21:25] <terry_gardener> hello
[21:25] <riad> it is the same
[21:25] <AstorZZZ> So i compile a hello world app with g++
[21:25] <pir1> I'm new to this one too .. using Pidgin .. it doesn't have any options conserning file-transfers
[21:25] <AstorZZZ> I ran it from terminal
[21:25] <AstorZZZ> Funny thing - there's no output
[21:25] <MrMist> ere4si: Hmm.. do you know how I adjust the transparency of unfocused windows ?
[21:25] <sharperguy> Anyone have any experiance installing the realtime kernel on a dell laptop (the E5whatever)
[21:25] <terry_gardener> wonder if anyone can help, the edit menu option wont open, says starting edit menu and then nothing happens
[21:26] <AstorZZZ> So i wrote some stuff to txt file to make sure it actually works
[21:26] <brambo> neverblue: its something in KDE doing it, soon as i logon under Gnome its all good again...thanks for your help though
[21:26] <AstorZZZ> Well, it works
[21:26] <AstorZZZ> But why there's no output in the console?
[21:26] <neverblue> brambo, its not 'KDE' directly
[21:26] <zossso> Ah, I'm using 'x-chat GNOME'
[21:26] <ere4si> MrMist, you need compiz for that I think - I don't do eye candy stuff - sorry
[21:26] <riad> same blank screen and it didnot shutdown
[21:26] <Imaginal> Using my hardware volume up/down and mute buttons, gnome shows the square in the middle that says what the volume is, but it doesn't change. What is going on?
[21:26] <brambo> neverblue: what are you saying?
[21:26] <jeffMASTERflex> AstorZZZ: mine had output in the console. i followed the exact instructions on the site
[21:26] <pir1> pidgin was already installed with ubuntu .. so ...
[21:26] <utkan0s> Joff is libc6 installed
[21:27] <MrMist> ere4si: gnome-look ?
[21:27] <neverblue> brambo, its working, be happy :D
[21:27] <zossso> pirl: don't know about pidgin.  Might not be file transfer capable.
[21:27] <danand> joff - to see if glibc is installed type dpkg-query --status pkgname
[21:27] <ere4si> MrMist, I'll get a link
[21:27] <brambo> neverblue: yeah i just wanted to use it under the new KDE4 desktop I got :D
[21:27] <pir1> well, there is an option, but .. nothing happens obviously
[21:27] <pir1> ;P
[21:27] <neverblue> brambo, thats another channel :D
[21:27] <krut> hello :)
[21:27] <jeffMASTERflex> AstorZZZ: look at the summary at the end. once it compiles, you have to run it with "./hello"
[21:27] <danand> joff - or try a dpkg -l | grep glibc
[21:28] <brambo> neverblue: well thats why ur here now i know, thank u
[21:28] <rikkimaru> I'm on a livecd trying to use gparted to resize my main partition.  Can someone look at http://pastebin.ca/919548 and help me?  Thanks
[21:28] <zossso> pirl: Here is a sample x.org for NVIDIA... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=339930
[21:28] <utkan0s> it's called libc6 Joff
[21:28] <brambo> neverblue: :)
[21:28] <riad> again the shutdown problem
[21:28] <usurper> if i wanted tohave ubuntu on a virtual machine using wmware which version would i need? vmware server? or what?
[21:28] <ere4si> MrMist, http://www.gnome-look.org/
[21:28] <utkan0s> riad what happened
[21:28] <riad> same
[21:28] <AstorZZZ> jeffMASTERflex: oh, yeah, it works now too
[21:28] <brambo> neverblue: have u seen the name sudobash in here lately?
[21:28] <utkan0s> riad were you at a console only
[21:28] <utkan0s> not a terminal within X
[21:28] <Joff> libc6 is listed as installed and ok
[21:28] <riad> yes
[21:28] <neverblue> brambo, nope, sorry
[21:28] <utkan0s> riad did it just freeze
[21:28] <usurper>  if i wanted tohave ubuntu on a virtual machine using wmware which version would i need? vmware server? or what?
[21:28] <AstorZZZ> So, now i've got a working hello world app / file IO
[21:29] <brambo> neverblue: k ty...im gonna go thanks 4 all ya help
[21:29] <riad> but i ran your command from root terminal
[21:29] <utkan0s> Joff do you have the dev packages installed associated with it
[21:29] <fliegenderfrosch> usurper: vmware player should be enough, you then just have to create the vm with an other tool
[21:29] <utkan0s> riad were you able to type commands after you issued the shutdown?
[21:29] <fliegenderfrosch> usurper: alternatively you could use virtualbox
[21:29] <Joff> i hate to say, but i havent a clue?
[21:29] <brambo> neverblue: ubuntu forever :D
[21:29] <utkan0s> Joff look in synaptic packaged manager, search for libc6
[21:29] <utkan0s> Joff install everything that makes sense
[21:29] <AstorZZZ> Howdy, so how do i compile hello world apps it in anjuta?
[21:29] <JasonWoof> I upgraded to hardy and now the NetworkManager keeps reporting me as offline
[21:29] <riad> i cannot type any command after
[21:29] <usurper> "virtualbox" is a name for another virtual machine maker
[21:29] <AstorZZZ> The problem is, it only generats an .o file
[21:30] <AstorZZZ> *generates
[21:30] <riad> i rebooted
[21:30] <JasonWoof> every time I open pidgin or epiphany I have to tell them to go online.
[21:30] <utkan0s> riad can you reboot ok?
[21:30] <riad> yes
[21:30] <Joff> utkan0s: i think this is where the problem is, as none of this makes sense to me
[21:30] <utkan0s> riad when you issued the shutdown from the client did the screen go black or just freeze
[21:30] <fliegenderfrosch> usurper: yes, i know, thats why i said "alternatively"
[21:30] <JasonWoof> how can I force epiphany to always open in "online" mode?
[21:30] <riad> but i cannot suspend , hibernate or shutdown
[21:30] <utkan0s> Joff.. there is a bit of a learning curve
[21:31] <rikkimaru> I'm on a livecd trying to use gparted to resize my main partition.  Can someone look at http://pastebin.ca/919548 and help me?  Thanks
[21:31] <Joff> utkan0s: i figure that
[21:31] <utkan0s> Joff, do you know what synaptic package manager is
[21:31] <riad> blank
[21:31] <danand> joff - dpkg -l | grep libc6 ... if libc6-dev pops up in the output you have it installed
[21:31] <utkan0s> Joff sometimes programs need the dev libraries
[21:31] <AstorZZZ> When i compile a hello world app in anjuta it only generates a .o file, there're no executables!
[21:31] <Joff> utkan0s: yes im there but there are around 20 items in the list and am unsure as to what is needed
[21:31] <mohi> hi, is it possible to connect two laptops with their wireless for internet and file sharing?
[21:31] <utkan0s> Joff, grab libc6-dev
[21:31] <AtomicSpark> mohi: yes, it's callled ad-hoc
[21:31] <Joff> i see a libc6-dev in there thats not installed
[21:32] <utkan0s> if you dont have it
[21:32] <utkan0s> install that Joff
[21:32] <utkan0s> and try your nvidia shell script again
[21:32] <utkan0s> you dont need anything else in the list, i just checked
[21:32] <yahya> I have a problem with asterisk at bootup, it starts before the network is fully up, so all the channels are not initialized. Is there a way to configure the init scripts so that it waits for a network interface to be up first?
[21:32] <lomener> kelk1 parle français??
[21:32] <MrMist> ere4si: it's a metacity theme I'm creating then, right ?
[21:32] <MrMist> or GTK ?
[21:32] <mohi> AtomicSpark: tanx. should I install any package? is it possible with a XO and ubuntu?
[21:32] <Joff> i have to ask, but how is a newbie like me suposed to know that?
[21:32] <ere4si> rikkimaru, you can't use gparted on a mounted partition
[21:33] <robot_jesus> how do i set my host name
[21:33] <riad> so...
[21:33] <fliegenderfrosch> lomener: try #ubuntu-fr
[21:33] <rikkimaru> ere4si: It wasn't mounted before gparted started
[21:33] <lomener> thx
[21:33] <ere4si> MrMist, probably
[21:33] <zossso> pirl: gotta go, but good luck to you
[21:33] <ere4si> rikkimaru, the live cd must have mounted it
[21:33] <danand> robot_jesus - use the hostname command in a terminal
[21:34] <rikkimaru> ere4si: when I ran sudo umount /dev/sda1 before running gparted, it claimed it wasn't mounted
[21:34] <Joff> ok utkan0s, will leave here as i have to stop the gui to do it
[21:34] <sharperguy> AstorZZZ, click build project
[21:34] <natto> hello, how do you specify a ./configure option (--foo=bar) when you install via apt-get?
[21:34] <rikkimaru> ere4si: but after it, it is mounted
[21:34] <danand> robot_jesus - type man hostname in the terminal for help
[21:34] <utkan0s> Joff ok
[21:34] <utkan0s> riad are you 100% positive you were outside of X
[21:34] <riad> do u think there is no solutions for my problem
[21:34] <Joff> thanks for the help if i dont get back :)
[21:34] <AtomicSpark> mohi: it's more of a driver setting then "installing packages". i'm not sure how you do it in ubuntu.
[21:34] <ere4si> rikkimaru, that is what your paste says
[21:34] <riad> yes
[21:34] <utkan0s> riad it's a common X issue but I've never seen it from outside X
[21:34] <progfunk> zossso: pir1 or was supposed to be Pirk, but that was taken .. well, here I am, trying again :P
[21:35] <jeffMASTERflex> natto: the debs are pre-built. for special compile time options, you need to compile it yourself
[21:35] <rikkimaru> ere4si: so... why is gparted angry at itself for mounting /dev/sda1 then?
[21:35] <ere4si> rikkimaru, try   sudo umount -v etc   to get a confirmation that it was unmounted
[21:35] <robot_jesus> danand: thx
[21:35] <xiven> Hey all
[21:35] <natto> jeffMASTERflex: thanks
[21:35] <jonasbjork> i just got the GroupWise client working in Ubuntu 7.10 , blogged @ http://jonasbjork.blogspot.com/
[21:35] <natto> jeffMASTERflex: so in order to make the configuration most like the apt-get one, would you just copy the configuration and use it for compiling?
[21:36] <MrMist> ere4si: can't find the tutorial
[21:36] <sharperguy> Anyone here use the realtime kernel on a dell (ubuntu preinstalled) laptop?
[21:36] <utkan0s> riad when you stopped gdm did it drop you to just text?
[21:36] <progfunk> hmmm
[21:36] <xiven> I was in the middle of an upgrade to Feisty, and along hte way it errored...trying to install gconf2, something about needing python2.5, but 2.4 is installed..I have tried installing 2.5 manually, as well as removing 2.4 before hand..but it won't let me
[21:36] <ere4si> MrMist, are you trying to make ubuntu look like a mac?
[21:36] <progfunk> does pidgin sWck with irc .. ?
[21:36] <jeffMASTERflex> natto: i don't know what you mean, i usually read the readme and install files in the source packages to determine what options i can compile in
[21:36] <MrMist> ere4si: Yeah, that's what I'm after
[21:37] <mohi> hi, is it possible to connect two laptops with their wireless for internet and file sharing?
[21:37] <mhrnjad> progfunk: try xchat
[21:37] <natto> jeffMASTERflex: i mean, i'm assuming apt-get has some standard ways of putting files, to ease uninstalling
[21:37] <ere4si> MrMist, google mac4lin - someones already done the work
[21:37] <natto> jeffMASTERflex: and i would like to stick to these standards if possible
[21:37] <[-NetBoy-]> re
[21:37] <scudDA> hi. Anyone else finding repo downloads reaallly ssllloooowwww?
[21:37] <jeffMASTERflex> natto: yes, you can build your own debs to ease uninstalling later.
[21:38] <progfunk> zossso: did it get any better ? .. *trying to fix things*
[21:38] <JasonWoof> how can I get network manager to always report me as online?
[21:38] <rikkimaru> ere4si: It was unmounted, and I got the same error when I tried again
[21:38] <natto> well i mean, if you compile it yourself, Synaptic won't be happy right?
[21:38] <rikkimaru> ere4si: can I run the commands without gparted?
[21:38] <jeffMASTERflex> natto: to do it the sloppy and unrecommended way, you can use checkinstall. to do it the nice way, you can use debhelper
[21:38] <fliegenderfrosch> scudDA: they are ok for me, maybe you should try a different mirror?
[21:38] <natto> jeffMASTERflex: alright, i'll check that out, thanks a lot
[21:39] <ere4si> rikkimaru, what commands? - the program to partitions' commands?
[21:39] <xiven> Here is the error I get when I try to restart the dist-upgrade since it failed... http://rafb.net/p/94RZ8O82.html
[21:39] <rikkimaru> ere4si: yes, like in the error report it attempted to run 'e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/sda1'
[21:39] <Fireal> HI all, should be a real easy question but the forums give me answers to related questions;  How do I list the users of a specific group?
[21:40] <ere4si> rikkimaru, you can run that - but the filesystem needs to be unmounted
[21:40] <ere4si> ...
[21:40] <rikkimaru> ere4si: okay, but I assume there are more commands than just that to resize it, right?
[21:41] <natto> actually, that doesn't make sense: i'm trying to install ffmpeg with mp3lame
[21:41] <bluewraith> hi all
[21:41] <natto> all guides i read for ubuntu show --enable-mp3lame on after you apt-get lame
[21:41] <jole> hello ppl
[21:41] <utkan0s> Fireal, type groups userID where userID is the user you want to check
[21:41] <natto> for ffmpeg
[21:41] <ere4si> rikkimaru, try the force option   umount -fv etc
[21:42] <rikkimaru> ere4si: It claims it's not mounted after I run it once
[21:42] <Fireal> utkan0s:  that's almost what I'm after.  I want all users to a group, not all groups a user is a memeber of
[21:42] <danand> xiven - have you tried running sudo apt-get install python2.5 ? or do you still get errors?
[21:42] <bluewraith> Does anyone where have some spare time that they can waste on me? I'm looking for some information about SSH and what all I can do with it.
[21:42] <Fireal> utkan0s:  like group root is my username and my brother's but not my sister's etc.
[21:42] <tgelter> bluewraith: feel free to pm me
[21:43] <progfunk> zossso : thank you for being helpful, but I think I'll have to call it a day.. (just try one more thing)
[21:43] <ere4si> rikkimaru, I'm at a lost then - never have probs with gparted...
[21:43] <rikkimaru> ere4si: when I try it w/ qtparted I can't resize :/
[21:44] <zossso> progfunk: piro?
[21:44] <progfunk> yeah
[21:44] <progfunk> :P
[21:44] <progfunk> suddenly there came a message about my name being taken and stuff
[21:44] <progfunk> so .. had to change
[21:45] <zossso> progfunk: i see... I don't know if file transfers are allowed on this server.
[21:45] <utkan0s> Fireal, getent group groupname
[21:45] <utkan0s> like this?
[21:45] <progfunk> oh
[21:45] <ere4si> rikkimaru,  try   sudo umount -a ext3 -ond
[21:45] <zossso> progfunk: I can't seem to private message you
[21:45] <progfunk> hm
[21:45] <Imaginal> Using my hardware volume up/down and mute buttons, gnome shows the square in the middle that says what the volume is, but it doesn't change. What is going on?
[21:45] <utkan0s> Fireal, you can also look in /etc/group
[21:46] <bluewraith> tgelter: you get the messages? just curious, havn't used IRC in years
[21:46] <ppvanzella> HI! Has anybody noticed a problem with python on hardy today?
[21:46] <ppvanzella> because it kinda broke here
[21:46] <ere4si> rikkor is it windows your resizing
[21:46] <ere4si> oops
[21:46] <Fireal> utkan0s: Ahh, I think that is the answer...Thanks!
[21:46] <utkan0s> np
[21:46] <progfunk> well .. Pidgin doesn't tell me wheter it's working or not ..
[21:47] <progfunk> but you don't seem to respond to the message, so I guess it doesn't work the other way either
[21:47] <progfunk> hm .. I left :P
[21:47] <progfunk> should've used another client ..
[21:47] <tgelter> bluewraith: I pm'd you
[21:48] <zossso> progfunk: ha... yeah you left. I like x-chat gnome.  might try that
[21:48] <danand> Imaginal - how annoying :(. think i had a similar problem with xine - when i used the volume control nothing happened. turned out xine was trying to change the wrong thing. not sure how you would find out what device that is trying to control though
[21:49] <mrpockets> so in OO, how do you enter two liens of text in a cell when using Excel?
[21:49] <Photocopy> It is not clear how to install something from a .tar.gz archive. I am trying to install the following: http://avant-window-navigator.googlecode.com/files/avant-window-navigator-0.1.1-2.tar.gz   Can someone give me a hand?
[21:49] <PriceChild> Photocopy, read the "readme" file in it.
[21:50] <ppvanzella> Photocopy, have you tried adding the repository for it?
[21:50] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: this program is available as a deb from www.getdeb.net I advise you get it from there if you want
[21:50] <Photocopy> PriceChild: It is not clear.
[21:50] <ppvanzella> there's one somewhere, I'm sure
[21:50] <mrpockets> Photocopy, are you trying to install AWN?
[21:50] <Photocopy> jeffMASTERflex: Ill look
[21:50] <ppvanzella> yep, on getdeb, there's where it is
[21:50] <Photocopy> mrpockets: Yes
[21:50] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: Eh?
[21:50] <mrpockets> i also am a super noob in linux, but keep googeling it, there is a package for it thats pretty self explanitory
[21:51] <progfunk> *installing bitchx and xchat-gnome*
[21:51] <zossso> progfunk: cool
[21:51] <danand> Imaginal - check your keyboard make model and layout is correct in system -> prefs -> keyboard
[21:51] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: www.getdeb.net, get the .deb for awn there
[21:51] <ppvanzella> or, if you're running Hardy, just apt-get install avant-windo-navigator
[21:51] <ppvanzella> window*
[21:52] <progfunk> ok .. I'll be back
[21:52] <zossso> k
[21:52] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: Theres unhandled dependencies when i try to use that
[21:52] <danand> Imaginal - also you can look and set what controls what events in system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts
[21:52] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: and can't gedebi solve them?
[21:53] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: are you running gutsy?
[21:53] <progfunk> hm
[21:53] <progfunk> is this the same channel ? :P
[21:53] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: Yes
[21:53] <zossso> progfunk: yes
[21:53] <Imaginal> danand: the keys seem to work, and show the volume going up or down... but no response. The keyboard appears to be mapped right, but there is a disconnect somewhere
[21:53] <progfunk> I was thrown into this before doing anything
[21:53] <ppvanzella> alright, I'll find you the repository
[21:53] <progfunk> hehe
[21:53] <incorrect> what is the meta package for the 32bit libs on amd64?
[21:53] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: yes, you need to install the dependencies on the site first before you install the actual program. they are there on the getdeb page for awn
[21:54] <zossso> progfunk: me too.  that's why i'm here
[21:54] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: It doesnt say it can solve them, it says dependency is not satisfyabe.
[21:54] <Photocopy> no they arent.
[21:54] <progfunk> hehe ;D
[21:54] <progfunk> najs
[21:54] <Imaginal> danand: also, it used to work, meaning I likely broke it at some point
[21:54] <zossso> right-click my name.. see if you can send me a file
[21:54] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: yes they are. i see them and installed them myself right now
[21:54] <danand> Imaginal - oops :(
[21:54] <Photocopy> No, libpango1.0-0
[21:54] <ppvanzella> well, gedebi usually finds them and installs them for you
[21:55] <Photocopy> tell me where you see that package? Its required for libawn
[21:55] <Photocopy> which is required for the others.
[21:55] <ppvanzella> ah, alright, libawn is not in the repos
[21:55] <bluewraith> tgelter: found my problem... need to register. oups
[21:55] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: Libawn is on the site
[21:55] <progfunk> zossso: does anything happen ?
[21:55] <Photocopy> libpango1.0-0 is not, which is required for libawn in the first place
[21:55] <ppvanzella> here we go, Photocopy, add the gutsy-backports repository
[21:55] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: are you using gutsy? if you are there shouldn't be any depend issues installing libawn
[21:55] <ppvanzella> on synaptic
[21:56] <Photocopy> jeffMASTERflex: yes im using gutsy
[21:56] <ppvanzella> and avant-window-navigator and libawn should be there
[21:56] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: Im afraid i wont do that until you read what i wrote
[21:56] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: then you might want to enable the backports repository for updates, because i do not have that issue myself
[21:56] <zossso> progfunk: nope.  not allowed on this server.  Want to try a different server?
[21:56] <ppvanzella> oh, sorry
[21:56] <tom17bombadil> i run 10/04 on a amd64. now i want to install a 32-bit firefox because of flash. but trying to install the ia32-libs apt says it cant find it. (universe is enabled though)
[21:56] <progfunk> ok
[21:56] <ppvanzella> libpango? I'm pretty sure it's on the repos
[21:56] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: libawn and awn are both on getdeb themselves, theres libpango1.0-0 as a dependency of libawn
[21:57] <zossso> progfunk: I'm on EFNet channel #perl
[21:57] <tgelter> bluewraith: pm me back when you get it figured out
[21:57] <ppvanzella> that's odd
[21:57] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: it is very odd. you should have libpango installed at version 1.18.3
[21:57] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: There are other libpangos in synaptic.
[21:57] <progfunk> how do I run two servers at once ?
[21:57] <progfunk> :P
[21:58] <Photocopy> there is not 1.0-0
[21:58] <DRebellion_> progfunk, what sort of servers?
[21:58] <bluewraith> tgelter: will do.. but /register don't work... whats the right command? Sheesh I feel like such a noob
[21:58] <zossso> IRC-> Connect
[21:58] <progfunk> haven't used irc for years
[21:58] <ppvanzella> what version is there?
[21:58] <chazco> Hi... is it possible to prevent fsck from running automatically when running from battery power? Every 30 startups have an uncanny ability to coincide with things like presentations...
[21:58] <Photocopy> jeffMASTERflex: Apparently not.
[21:58] <progfunk> irc
[21:58] <progfunk> with xchat gnome
[21:58] <ppvanzella> did you download the gutsy version on getdeb?
[21:58] <zossso> progfunk: IRC -> Connect... will open in new window
[21:58] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: Older versions
[21:58] <ppvanzella> because 1.0.0 is on hardy I think
[21:58] <synic> is Felipe Venegas  wrote 2 hours ago:  (permalink)
[21:58] <synic> crap.
[21:59] <synic> is Felipe Venegas in here?
[21:59] <progfunk> it was that easy .. :P
[21:59] <ppvanzella> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/reacocard-awn/ubuntu gutsy main
[21:59] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: this is the repository
[21:59] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: wait, nevermind, its in there
[21:59] <tgelter> bluewraith: /msg nickserv register PASSWORD EMAIL
[21:59] <ppvanzella> alright ;)
[21:59] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: I know, its in synaptic
[21:59] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: The package libpango1.0-0 is already installed
[21:59] <bluewraith> tgelter: thanks. Just googled it. *hits self*
[21:59] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: marked by a green square.
[22:00] <ppvanzella> yep
[22:00] <ppvanzella> so it's all good
[22:00] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: And at the newest version
[22:00] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: No, it not all good, gdebi still says i need it
[22:00] <ppvanzella> really? *Odd*
[22:01] <ppvanzella> and it can't install it?
[22:01] <jeffMASTERflex> ppvanzella: definitely a local issue for Photocopy. i just installed from getdeb without issues
[22:01] <ppvanzella> what version of libpango it says on synaptic that yu have
[22:01] <chana> Hello
[22:01] <ppvanzella> jeffMASTERflex: I installed from the main repos here
[22:01] <ppvanzella> on hardy
[22:01] <Photocopy> jeffMASTERflex: Alright, then no awn for me then?
[22:02] <chazco> Hi... is it possible to prevent fsck from running automatically when running from battery power? Every 30 startups have an uncanny ability to coincide with things like presentations...
[22:02] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: try adding the awn repo ppvanzella provided
[22:02] <Joff> utkan0s: still have an issue mate
[22:02] <Amazing> New to this. I am trying to move user information from one server to the other one. I was able to get passwd, group, shadow, and gshadow onto the new server, but I cannot get the home folders to move. I tarred the old home folder, I can extract it on the new server, but cannot get the home folders into the home folder on the new server.
[22:02] <Photocopy> jeffMASTERflex: He didn't provide me one, or he didnt highlight my name when he did it
[22:03] <void^> chazco: tune2fs
[22:03] <AHemlocksLie> How do I extract a RAR split up into multiple parts? All I can manage to do is go through and individually extract each piece, which means any files split up end up with just one part
[22:03] <scudDA> hi all. having troublw with update manager. It is stuck "downloading package information" at file 30 of 47
[22:03] <utkan0s> Joff, same message?
[22:03] <chana> Anyone know what controls the theme for the Gnome Panel?
[22:03] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/reacocard-awn/ubuntu gutsy main
[22:03] <chazco> void^ - That disables it completely iirc, and isnt the best solution. I just want to prevent it running the 30-boot check when not on battery
[22:03] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: there it is
[22:03] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: What do I do with this?
[22:03] <Joff> utkan0s: after eboot i got the "cannot determine screen or adapter" message so im back to square one and still cant get things like the cube to work
[22:04] <ppvanzella> you put it at the end of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:04] <LainIwakura> just tried installing 3 progs and failed all
[22:04] <Photocopy> how do I do that?
[22:04] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: go to Settings/Repositories in Synaptic
[22:04] <LainIwakura> rebooted back to winxp
[22:04] <LainIwakura> lol
[22:04] <utkan0s> chazco, use tune2fs with the -i parameter and you can set when you want it done
[22:04] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: then you aptitude update and aptitude install avant-window-navigator
[22:04] <LainIwakura> linux is going to take me a while to learn
[22:04] <fo_x86> when I type in the command "man 3 calloc" it says No manual entry for calloc in section 3, I'm guessing I don't have a section 3, anyone know how to fix this?
[22:04] <utkan0s> setting 0 will disable it forever, you can put in your own values
[22:04] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: Alright then...
[22:04] <chazco> utkan0s - But I might not know... take the laptop to a lecture, connect to the projector and suddently everyone gets to watch 30 minutes of disk checking...
[22:05] <Photocopy> jeffMASTERflex: ?
[22:05] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: tell me if something goes wrong
[22:05] <chazco> Sometimes its not possible to know when i'll need to use it in advance
[22:05] <chana> Anyone know what controls the theme for the Gnome Panel?
[22:05] <scudDA> anyone know how to clear the files downloaded so far from the update manager?
[22:05] <utkan0s> chazco, then just run it manually
[22:05] <CorruptTerrorist> !binary
[22:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binary - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:05] <CorruptTerrorist> urgh
[22:05] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: there is a 3rd party software section. click on add and input the repo line he gave you
[22:05] <AHemlocksLie> How do I extract a RAR split up into multiple parts? All I can manage to do is go through and individually extract each piece, which means any files split up end up with just one part
[22:05] <Joff> utkan0s: i cant activate the EXTRA option in Appearance because it asks to use the driver but when i do it reboots and i get the Cant Determine error
[22:05] <CorruptTerrorist> whats that binary frivers trigger
[22:05] <chazco> Still doesnt solve it unless i run it many times
[22:05] <Photocopy> jeffMASTERflex: I did, now what?
[22:05] <CorruptTerrorist> *drivers
[22:05] <utkan0s> chazco, it's either on, off, or scheduled
[22:05] <amenado> scudDA-> apt-get clean
[22:05] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: click reload
[22:05] <utkan0s> what kjind of behavior are you looking for it to do?
[22:05] <Joff> utkan0s: i now have a headache
[22:06] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: Duh, i meant after
[22:06] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: make sure it is checked as enabled, then hit the reload button in synaptic
[22:06] <chazco> utkan0s - On someone elses laptop it says that its skipped due to being on battery, but mine doesnt do that
[22:06] <utkan0s> Joff, I'm not too familiar with the cube or any of that business.. never had a need for it, sorry man
[22:06] <void^> AHemlocksLie: if it actually is a multipart rar, 'unrar x first.part.rar' will extract all of them.
[22:06] <utkan0s> chazco, ah
[22:06] <chana> Anyone know what controls the theme for the Gnome Panel?
[22:06] <CorruptTerrorist> !binary_drivers
[22:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binary_drivers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:06] <Photocopy> jeffMASTERflex: Now what though?
[22:06] <CorruptTerrorist> argh
[22:06] <AHemlocksLie> void^ thanks
[22:06] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: now find avant-window-navigator, it should be there somewhere
[22:06] <chazco> And its really, really a serious bug. Means Ubuntu is unusable sometimes
[22:06] <Joff> utkan0s basically i cant activate any of the perfomance options of the gui
[22:06] <fo_x86> when I do "man 3 calloc" it returns No manual entry for calloc in section 3, anyone know how to fix this?
[22:06] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: There isnt one this time.
[22:06] <CorruptTerrorist> ah got it
[22:06] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: search for "avant" and install the package named "avant-window-navigator"
[22:06] <CorruptTerrorist> !binarydriver
[22:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:07] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: Theres avant-window-navigator-bzr.... thats the closest thing
[22:07] <ppvanzella> yep
[22:07] <ppvanzella> that's it
[22:07] <ppvanzella> there's also an avant-window-navigator-trunk, right?
[22:07] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: Didnt work
[22:07] <natto> jeffMASTERflex: thanks again, you cured a very horrible headache of mine
[22:07] <ppvanzella> either one should be fine
[22:07] <ppvanzella> woot ><
[22:07] <utkan0s> chazco, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsck
[22:07] <Photocopy> avant-window-navigator-bzr:
[22:07] <Photocopy>  Depends: libawn-bzr but it is not going to be installed
[22:07] <Photocopy>   Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>=1.18.3) but 1.18.2-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
[22:07] <Photocopy>  Depends: libawn-bzr but it is not going to be installed
[22:08] <Photocopy> oops sorry
[22:08] <FloodBot1> Photocopy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:08] <scudDA> amenado: Tried that, but when I go to update and click "check" it goes stright to file 30 of 47 and gets stuck...
[22:08] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: are all the ubuntu repos active?
[22:08] <utkan0s> chazco, that seems like a decent compromise
[22:08] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: I dont know
[22:08] <chazco> Reading it now
[22:08] <Djerodek> Hello, I'm looking for a little bit of help - I've managed to get stuck with two ext partitions on my USB key that I cannot access or delete in Windows. I don't have access to linux, so I wanted to know if anyone can point me in the direction of a good piece of software to delete the whole kit-n-kaboodle
[22:09] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: go back to the repos section of synaptic and enable all the Ubuntu repos
[22:09] <Flare183> Seveas: hehe
[22:09] <amenado> scudDA-> try  sudo apt-get autoclean
[22:09] <Photocopy> jeffMASTERflex: How do I know I even have all of the repos?
[22:09] <jamalf> The ATI drivers in the gutsy repositories still require Xgl, right?
[22:09] <Seveas> Flare183, sorry, I needed a vitim for testing the new ubotu2 :)
[22:09] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: they're all there, they can just not be checked
[22:09] <scudDA> djerodek: do you need fles off those partitions or could you just format the drive?
[22:09] <jack-desktop> is there anyway to make my disk stay the same name..?
[22:09] <Flare183> Seveas: ok one sec
[22:09] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: just check all the ones except the one named "source code" on the ubuntu software tab
[22:09] <Djerodek> I just want the space back
[22:10] <Djerodek> I don't care about what's on 'em
[22:10] <Photocopy> jeffMASTERflex: play
[22:10] <Photocopy> jeffMASTERflex: okay* done
[22:10] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: now try again
[22:10] <Photocopy> jeffMASTERflex: They were all fine. checked except source.
[22:10] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: also go to the tab named Updates and enable all of them except "pre-release updates"
[22:10] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: Same error.
[22:11] <Photocopy> jeffMASTERflex: That was done too
[22:11] <ppvanzella> weird³
[22:11] <Photocopy> weird
[22:11] <Joff> can anyone else shed some light on this? i am trying to install the correct driver for my Nvidia 8600 GT XXX Edition, the driver has been installed (took some working out, done it now thanks to utkan0s) but when i use it and reboot it gives me the "cannot determine your screen or adapter" message and i cant use any advanced performance options for the gui ie. desktop cube
[22:11] <Photocopy> i tried again
[22:11] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: there's another package there, Avant-window-navigator-trunk
[22:11] <Photocopy> and now its installing
[22:11] <ppvanzella> alright! \o/
[22:11] <scudDA> amenado. Sorry, no change with autoclean. Where are those files? Will deleting them help with it getting stuck?
[22:11] <ppvanzella> sweet!
[22:11] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: I clicked install again. now whats this trunk thing
[22:12] <Djerodek> jeffmaster: I just want to delete the partitions - I don't care what's on them
[22:12] <krut> I clean myself with a rag on a stick
[22:12] <utkan0s> Joff your xorg file doesn't sound configured properly
[22:12] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: it was just if that package didn't work
[22:12] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: Does it turn on upon boot or do I have to do it myself?
[22:12] <amenado> scudDA-> i think they are at /var/cache/apt
[22:12] <utkan0s> Joff check /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... i'm sure there are tons of guides out there for this cube thing you want that show you what to put in that file
[22:12] <scudDA> djerodek: I would have thought you could format it from Windows
[22:12] <jeffMASTERflex> Photocopy: you have to do i yourself. add it in System/Preferences/Sessions
[22:12] <utkan0s> Joff make sure you back up that file before modifying it too
[22:12] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: I think there's an option somewhere in the to do it, altho I just put mine winder sections
[22:12] <ppvanzella> under*
[22:13] <Djerodek> Nah - I can't touch them because they're seen as the extension of an NTFS partition
[22:13] <Djerodek> It's weird.
[22:13] <ppvanzella> (the problem with AWN is that it can cover the text bar here ¬¬)
[22:13] <Photocopy> ppvanzella: Whats teh command to run it anyway?
[22:13] <ppvanzella> avant-window-navigator
[22:13] <Joff> utkan0s thanks i have just realised ive missed it as you said it haha, will look now
[22:13] <scudDA> ewww. maybe you could format it from linux? Download a live CD and boot it.
[22:13] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: avant-window-navigator
[22:13] <utkan0s> Joff, definitely back that file up
[22:13] <Photocopy> k thanks
[22:14] <Djerodek> Can't boot live CDs - the HP laptop I have doesn't like 'em
[22:14] <Photocopy> I gotta reboot cause i also got updates isntalled now
[22:14] <Photocopy> thanks
[22:14] <ppvanzella> Photocopy: and make sure you had awn-manager or installed
[22:14] <amenado> Djerodek-> lest you have a driver for ext in xp, xp cant really see and read that partition
[22:14] <ppvanzella> okay
[22:14] <Djerodek> I'm in Vista, but yeah
[22:15] <loxley_> hi i just put in one 500gb ide drive and my controller detects it, but when i've booted the install cd i cant test mount it, any ideas?
[22:15] <utkan0s> Joff, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2895086
[22:15] <ppvanzella> alright, my turn to complain: The today's hardy update broke part of python
[22:15] <DRebellion_> loxley_, what happens when you try to mount it?
[22:15] <ppvanzella> Is anybody having this problem, or has a solution to it?
[22:15] <playya> loxley_, do you have created some partitions?
[22:15] <Pici> !hardy | ppvanzella
[22:15] <ubotu> ppvanzella: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[22:15] <scudDA> amenado: that folder contains archives (folder), pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin
[22:15] <loxley_> OMG
[22:15] <loxley_> OMG
[22:15] <ppvanzella> oh, sorry
[22:16] <Pici> loxley_: stop
[22:16] <loxley_> fucking n00b i am
[22:16] <loxley_> Pici: thanks, problem solved
[22:16] <LeChacal> can someone help with having update problems with a PC that is set to a static IP address? i dont want to type out all the background for nothing.
[22:16] <duvnell_> does anyone know of a package I can install that will basically monitor stuff about the system (mem usage, processes/threads, etc) and show me near-realtime stats on a webpage?
[22:16] <Squawk> duvnell_, mrtg can do that
[22:17] <basso> Hmmmm
[22:17] <duvnell_> isn't that just network traffic?
[22:17] <amenado> scudDA-> try  sudo apt-get -f install   it does a sanity check for broken packages and tries to fix
[22:17] <scudDA> duvnell: I believe there will be a nice process manager in Hardy.
[22:17] <Squawk> duvnell_, you can configure it to show just about anything
[22:17] <Squawk> duvnell_, or have a go with conky (thats real time)
[22:17] <amenado> LeChacal-> what is the problem during update?
[22:17] <Joff> utkan0s: i think i found it, the screen header was missing CODE: Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[22:18] <utkan0s> Joff, cool, hope that works out for you
[22:18] <Joff> utkanos: going to try now
[22:18] <utkan0s> k gl
[22:18] <Joff> utkan0s thanks again mate
[22:18] <utkan0s> np
[22:18] <Squawk> duvnell_, but as an idea, I have mrtg showing cpu usage (dual core processor, shows individual cores), mem usage, and cached, plus network traffic. I was going to do fan speed, but felt like overkill (all that in gentoo mind, but wil work in ubuntu)
[22:19] <scudDA> amenado: That says it has changed zero files. I guess the files already there are ok. It just doesn't want to download any more.
[22:19] <duvnell_> cool
[22:19] <duvnell_> can I have your installation :) ?
[22:19] <LeChacal> amenado: i can get out to Internet through firefox, i can ping google through terminal, but when i do a apt-get update it comes back with like host not found (i am not sitting at the PC now it is node0 of a soon to be beowulf cluster)
[22:19] <xidarian> i typed free the fish in the run dialoge and this fish won't go away
[22:19] <amenado> scudDA-> what kind of error where you getting?
[22:19] <xidarian> if i try to click him he leaves but not for long
[22:19] <xidarian> i tried finding the process with htop but i dont'know what its called
[22:20] <xidarian> some help pls!
[22:20] <Pici> xidarian: You need to kill gnome-panel
[22:20] <cafuego> xidarian: Logout and log back in.
[22:20] <scudDA> no error. It just says "downloading file 30 of 48" and does nothing. THis is when checking for updates, it's not even downloading the actual updates
[22:20] <amenado> LeChacal-> perhaps there was a typo on the url of the source? it should just move forward to the next in the list though
[22:20] <LeChacal> amenado: it is set to a public static ip address that my school owns but was unused for about a year and if i do a who is to see who own the domain it comes back with noone, if that makes a differnt
[22:20] <CarlFK> how can I tell what res my screen is currently at?  (cli so I can cut/paste into an email to show proof)
[22:20] <xidarian> cafuego i dont' want ot logout
[22:20] <leeping2007> Hi there, I'm currently installing GRUB through an Ubuntu Net Install, and I know for sure that it's installing GRUB to the wrong hard drive.  How do I manually get GRUB to install to the correct hard drive??
[22:21] <cafuego> CarlFK: xdpyinfo | grep dimens
[22:21] <amenado> scudDA-> perhaps its just a bit slow, calculates the gpg key and stuff...maybe wait for a few minutes?
[22:21] <LeChacal> amenado: it is every url in the source.list it cant find
[22:21] <cafuego> xidarian: It's the law
[22:21] <xidarian> Pici thanks!
[22:21] <LeChacal> amenado: yes it skips them and goes to the next and next but gets nothing
[22:21] <xidarian> Pici i think its gone now!
[22:21] <CarlFK> cafuego: thanks - too cool.
[22:21] <amenado> CarlFK-> try   xdpyinfo  and look trhough it
[22:22] <Pici> xidarian: :)
[22:22] <xidarian> i' never gonna run that stupid fish again
[22:22] <xidarian> annoying
[22:22] <scudDA> it is a new machine, so this is the first time it's run updates. It's 64bit gutsy on a fast machine though...
[22:23] <Jahromeo> !compiz
[22:23] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[22:23] <amenado> LeChacal well you can check if your name server is okay, check whats in /etc/resolv.conf , try it and come back
[22:23] <_bryce> Hi. I'm new to Ubuntu. Apt-get just asked me to insert a CD to get a package; how do I tell it to always go to the internet instead to get packages?
[22:23] <scudDA> thanks for the amenado anyway.
[22:23] <levander> Why does the update-manager icon on the task bar only want to upgrade 8 packages, but 'sudo apt-get upgrade' wants to upgrade 98 packages?
[22:23] <RoC_MasterMind> anybody successfully using a pptp vpn under ubuntu?  I am trying to use network-manager-pptp to connect to strong vpn but get "validation options failed" in 7.04.
[22:23] <jamalf> _bryce, Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out (by adding a #) to the first line
[22:23] <_bryce> jamalf, thank you
[22:24] <condoulo> I'm currently in an Ubuntu 7.04 LiveCD, and I am trying to format a new partition to ext3, but it keeps giving me an error. Any reason why?>
[22:24] <CarlFK> this isn't right:   dimensions:    2880x1200 pixels (731x304 millimeters)
[22:24] <utkan0s> levander is there a new release you're not using?
[22:24] <utkan0s> levander it will say at the top if there is a new release ready for download
[22:24] <amenado> CarlFK-> should be the last line from the command,
[22:24] <Bloguero__Connor> hello, I can't install Apache1. I get this error:
[22:24] <Bloguero__Connor> Package apache is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[22:24] <Bloguero__Connor> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[22:24] <Bloguero__Connor> is only available from another source
[22:25] <i0n> Im trying to install ubuntu on vmware (ms vir pc actually) and when it loads up the screen has mad distortion
[22:25] <amenado> CarlFK-> i take it back..
[22:25] <Bloguero__Connor> I tried with sudo apt-get install apache
[22:25] <LeChacal> amenado: it is fine because i had to fix that early because i could only get to sites through their ips because i had the wrong DNS listed
[22:25] <RoC_MasterMind> Bloguero__Connor, try sudo apt-get install apache2
[22:25] <RoC_MasterMind> Bloguero__Connor, apache 1.x is out-dated.
[22:26] <levander> utkan0s: I'm on Gutsy.  I thought that was the latest?
[22:26] <Bloguero__Connor> dont want to instal appache2, I have a script that requieres Apache1
[22:26] <CarlFK> xdpyinfo  http://dpaste.com/36975/
[22:26] <utkan0s> levander just a suggestion
[22:26] <utkan0s> Bloguero__Connor, just compile it from source
[22:26] <komputes> Is there a way of erasing a CD-RW without downloading K3B, Brasero or the like. Is the any integrated OS support for CD-RW in 7.10?
[22:27] <RoC_MasterMind> komputes, maybe with like cdrecord or some command line thing
[22:27] <RoC_MasterMind> or maybe with one of the built in CD utilities.
[22:27] <amenado> CarlFK  am curious if you do  crtl+alt+ +(on numpad) does your resolution change?
[22:27] <Bloguero__Connor> utkan0s: I tried, and got this:
[22:27] <utkan0s> Bloguero__Connor, use pastebin please
[22:28] <Bloguero__Connor> http://pastebin.com/d516464b3
[22:28] <utkan0s> thanks
[22:28] <amenado> komputes-> wodim is behind k3b   maybe you can man wodim
[22:28] <wickedways> hi. is anyone here who knows where to find an overview about (mobile)graphic cards? i'm about to buy a laptop and would like to know in advantage whether dual-head is working (or general info about external screen-compatibility). thanks
[22:29] <basso> Installing my first ubuntu server now, so will be asking strange questions :P
[22:29] <CarlFK> amenado: hang on... I am sshed in from a multi head box.  I bet it is tunneling back to my 'other' X server, not the one that is running on the box I am running the command on..
[22:29] <TrustNoOne> what is there to do with ubuntu that is fun
[22:29] <basso> play quake engine games?
[22:29] <osfameron> !compiz
[22:29] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[22:29] <komputes> amenado: RoC_MasterMind  it's actually nautilus-cd-burner, which is integrated but thanks
[22:30] <CarlFK> amenado: what should the displayname be for xdpyinfo  [-display  displayname]  ?
[22:30] <kostkon> TrustNoOne, games, compiz, screenlets, programming? etc etc?
[22:30] <amenado> CarlFK-> try the command chvt  3 or switchto 3  assuming the other is in the vt3
[22:31] <utkan0s> Bloguero__Connor, type this
[22:31] <utkan0s> Bloguero__Connor,  ls -l /bin/sh
[22:31] <utkan0s> where is that linked
[22:31] <amenado> CarlFK-> mine just says :1.0
[22:32] <gombotz> hello guys, does anyone knows how to set firewire audio devices with freebob ?
[22:32] <Bloguero__Connor> utkan0s: Got this: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-02-21 08:36 /bin/sh -> dash
[22:32] <utkan0s> Bloguero__Connor, broken symlink
[22:32] <Bloguero__Connor> so?
[22:32] <utkan0s> Bloguero__Connor, try rm -f /bin/sh  .... then ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh
[22:33] <michalski> hello, on my secondary computer using amsn, it doesnt seem to want to pull up hotmail, when i click on open inbox, it says that it cant open "mozilla $url", so i changed it to "firefox $url", now it opens firefox but it gives me some cgi-bin website (http://www.cgi-bin.com/)
[22:33] <michalski> how do i fix this?
[22:34] <michalski> ....hello?
[22:34] <Bloguero__Connor> utkan0s: Thanks, seems it is compiling now
[22:34] <utkan0s> Bloguero__Connor, you're welcome
[22:35] <Khajavi> Applet error when log-in to ubuntu
[22:35] <elhoir> hello, why cannot i access to my cd drives in console?
[22:35] <elhoir> i cal do "ls" but it is always empty
[22:35] <fabio> cd
[22:35] <amenado> elhoir-> do you have a cdrom disk in it?
[22:35] <elhoir> amenado: yes i have
[22:35] <krut> is this disk mounted?
[22:35] <amenado> the cdrom is not empty?
[22:36] <elhoir> krut: yes it is
[22:36] <krut> can you view it using sudo?
[22:36] <elhoir> the thing is that ubuntu mount it using the label of the disc
[22:36] <amenado> elhoir is the filesystem on that cdrom something ubuntu can read?
[22:36] <fabio> df -h
[22:36] <elhoir> amenado: yes it is
[22:37] <elhoir> amenado: right now i have GTA San Andreas
[22:37] <Squawk> Hey guys, I have a little "mute" icon covering the little speaker in the panel at the top of gnome. When clicking it, I get "no volume control/gstreamer plugins or devices found". How can I find out if indeed it is the soundcard not working of if its other softwrae I dont have?
[22:37] <amenado> elhoir-> i dont know what GTA San Andreas is, is that a windows game?
[22:37] <elhoir> amenado: yes it is
[22:37] <Squawk> dmesg, seems to imply its codecs
[22:38] <amenado> elhoir  when you type mount ;  what does it display that cd drive as?
[22:38] <ere4si> Squawk, tried right clicking it?
[22:38] <Skullmonkey> Can someone help me find a 3d video accelerator for my graphics card? ive been searching for the past hour with no luck.
[22:38] <amenado> elhoir and the file system that it sees as?
[22:38] <Squawk> ere4si, i mentioned that in my post
[22:39] <basso> how do i list the directory?
[22:39] <amenado> basso ls -la
[22:39] <ere4si> Squawk, you said clicking - not right clicking...
[22:39] <elhoir> amenado: mount says it is mounted on /dev/scd1
[22:39] <Khajavi> Squawk: i dont your case you can search in lauchpad
[22:39] <amenado> elhoir can you paste the one line referring to that?  result of mount command,
[22:40] <|unjustice|> I keep getting errors when I start Kvirc and amarok...ubuntu says that I cannot read connection list, and cannot connect to .DCOP server
[22:40] <|unjustice|> I am running gutsy on x86
[22:40] <elhoir> amenado: yes, wait a minute
[22:40] <amenado> elhoir just one line, dont flood
[22:40] <basso> im just sooo n00b at ubuntu server
[22:40] <elhoir> amenado: http://www.reactos.org/paste/index.php/456/
[22:41] <TrustNoOne> is there a channel for gentoo?
[22:41] <amenado> basso then why do you need to run a server?
[22:41] <Skullmonkey> Can someone help me find a 3d video accelerator for my graphics card? ive been searching for the past hour with no luck.
[22:41] <speeddemon8803> TrustNoOne try #gentoo
[22:41] <basso> to learn..!
[22:41] <TrustNoOne> speeddemon8803, tx
[22:41] <neverblue> Skullmonkey, using xchat ?
[22:41] <Skullmonkey> yes
[22:41] <speeddemon8803> basso, diving head first into ubuntu server, is crazy, i did it, i wouldnt suggest it at all.
[22:41] <amenado> elhoir  well its filesystem is udf, not sure if your ubuntu supports that file system...you can check /boot/config-`uname -r`
[22:41] <michalski> speeddemon8803 Uncalled for
[22:42] <Khajavi> what is the difference of debian and ubuntu? which is better?
[22:42] <neverblue> Skullmonkey, /exec -o lspci | grep VGA
[22:42] <michalski> oh hahahaha
[22:42] <speeddemon8803> michalski, what is?
[22:42] <amenado> basso what are you trying to learn?
[22:42] <michalski> trustnoone is the name sorry speeddemon8803
[22:42] <elhoir> amenado: 2.6.22-14-generic
[22:42] <amenado> basso maybe you can get a book on linux ?
[22:42] <spenser_> Anyone know a python library that can parse dhcpd.conf?
[22:42] <speeddemon8803> Ok, i was thinking what the heck just giving adivce lol.
[22:42] <amenado> elhoir  read again what i pasted
[22:42] <Skullmonkey> neverblue no file or dir
[22:42] <speeddemon8803> its ok michalski, i forgive you..this time :)
[22:43] <Skullmonkey> lspci
[22:43] <michalski> speeddemon8803: ok haha goodjob,thanks
[22:43] <wigren> basso, i would suggest the art of unix program. its heavy but you'll learn a lot
[22:43] <leeping2007> Hi there, if I format a hard drive that had LILO on it as a boot loader, will it still be there?
[22:43] <asdir> @khajavi: many. the most imortant are that ubuntu is built on debian, they deliver new versions in different time spans and ship with different programs
[22:43] <basso> Im trying to set up an easy fileserver thats going to share 4-5 disks on a network while having the possibility to run remote access on it to control torrent and usenet programs
[22:43] <elhoir> amenado: i dont understand.. i am spanish hehe
[22:43] <Stwange> how do I stop bash from showing the full path?
[22:43] <neverblue> Skullmonkey, use pastebin ever?
[22:43] <Skullmonkey> neverblue: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video (rev 01)
[22:43] <Joff> utkan0s: im afraid i still have no joy, it still gives the message
[22:43] <amenado> leeping2007-> nope, once you format that partition where lilo resides,, its gone
[22:44] <leeping2007> amenado: thanks :)
[22:44] <Skullmonkey> neverblue yes i have
[22:44] <amenado> elhoir it does not support udf ? to make sure, check the file  /boot/config-`uname -r`
[22:44] <Khajavi> Help me: I chroot to new directory and I cant run firefox + GTK. What do I do?
[22:44] <utkan0s> Joff, :(
[22:44] <neverblue> Skullmonkey, looks like an S3 video card, what are you doing to 'get the driver' for it ?
[22:44] <Joff> utkan0s: im afraid my own knowledge is severly lacking in how to describe the issue
[22:44] <amenado> Khajavi is the path to its libraries and executable accessable from your chrooted dir?
[22:44] <utkan0s> Joff, did you look at those links
[22:45] <TrustNoOne> michalski, what is uncalled for
[22:45] <Khajavi>  Help me: I chroot to new directory and I cant run firefox + GTK. What do I do?
[22:45] <Joff> i have lost the last link u sent im afraid
[22:45] <utkan0s> Joff, your xorg conf is not right
[22:45] <utkan0s> ok
[22:45] <amenado> !patience | Khajavi
[22:45] <ubotu> Khajavi: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[22:45] <michalski> trustnoone: nothing, it was just the way i read your name
[22:45] <AWCADDE3> One quick question, I have an ExHDD attached to my PC which is running Ubuntu, I need to share this across my network so that my windows machines can access it, How would I go about doing this?
[22:45] <tbrock> hey guys, I accidentally removed a couple of the menu bar things I had like the network selector and the battery meter, and i can't find the exact ones I had through the add to menu selector
[22:45] <michalski> trustnoone: Trust No One, Try Gentoo
[22:45] <tbrock> do you guys have any ideas how to get those back
[22:45] <utkan0s> Joff http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2895086
[22:45] <Skullmonkey> neverblue someone told me to dl a packet and it diddnt fix my problem with wine so they told me i need to try and fine a 3d accelerator
[22:46] <TrustNoOne> ^o)?
[22:46] <neverblue> Skullmonkey, what are you trying to do exactly, as you mentioned downloading a packet and also wine in the same sentence?
[22:46] <Khajavi> ubu: I first search at google then I ask here
[22:47] <Siarom> Someone knows of a good tutorial for layer7 in ubuntu?
[22:47] <amenado> tbrock did you try to google for those? sometimes we refer to google if we ourselves cant find the name
[22:47] <elhoir> amenado: what have i to look for?
[22:47] <Joff> utkan0s: incidentally do you have any knowledge of soundcard installation?
[22:47] <amenado> elhoir if udf is supported or not
[22:47] <tbrock> i did not, i figured that there were a million different ones and did an apt-cache search
[22:47] <elhoir> amenado: in /boot/config-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic?
[22:47] <tbrock> but I want to know the default ones on a 7.10 laptop setup
[22:47] <elhoir> amenado: ok but how can i see that, file is too large
[22:48] <utkan0s> Joff, not particuarlly but I can try
[22:48] <Khajavi> amenado: when I chroot to new direcotry I run /usr/bin/firefox
[22:48] <Joff> utkan0s: i think mine is an unsupported one Creative XFI fatal1ty
[22:48] <amenado> elhoir not my issue :P  you try to open an unsupported filesystem (maybe)
[22:48] <amenado> Khajavi-> but does that exist in your chroot dir?
[22:49] <Skullmonkey> neverblue wine freezes for me. so i want to winehq and they told me to download a packet for my vid card and then told me to do some tests and diddnt like my result and told me i need a '3d accelerator'
[22:49] <amenado> Khajavi is the path to its libraries and executable accessable from your chrooted dir?
[22:49] <SlayerFaith> Hi, can ntfs-3g be relied upon reasonably well not to mess up an NTFS partition when writing large amounts of stuff to it?
[22:50] <hischild> what's up folks
[22:50] <Khajavi> amenado: no the firefox and gtk are avalable in my chroot
[22:50] <tbrock> ok got it brb
[22:50] <amenado> Khajavi including the support libraries it needs?
[22:50] <Khajavi> amenado: yes they are avalble
[22:51] <amenado> Khajavi-> what kind of error are you getting if any?
[22:51] <neverblue> Skullmonkey, that has nothing to do with what I thought you were attempting, sorry, cannot help
[22:52] <MAY36> HOLA
[22:52] <Skullmonkey> neverblue your the 6th person who has tried. thanks anyways
[22:52] <Khajavi> amenado: when I want to run vim or nano I can becase I dont run X. but when I want to run firefox i cause GTK error
[22:52] <MAY36> hola como funciona esto
[22:52] <neverblue> Skullmonkey, maybe asking a more clear question might help (alot) :)
[22:52] <MAY36> me podeis ayudar
[22:52] <neverblue> !es | MAY36
[22:52] <ubotu> MAY36: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[22:52] <ere4si> Skullmonkey, your card doesn't have 3d support  in linux
[22:53] <rikkimaru> Does windows have to be installed as the 1st primary partition?
[22:53] <Skullmonkey> ere4si so im completely screwed in getting wine to work?
[22:53] <amenado> Khajavi you do realize firefox uses the X features via GTK..so if you dont have it in chroot, umm you are out of luck
[22:53] <bluewraith> skullmonkey: what are you trying to get wine to do?
[22:53] <erUSUL> rikkimaru: short answer: yes
[22:53] <ere4si> Skullmonkey, wine will work - just not windows apps that need 3d...
[22:54] <Skullmonkey> bluewraith not freez my comp when i try to do anything with it
[22:54] <rikkimaru> erUSUL: what if I already have a ext3 partition there?
[22:54] <tbrock> i also wanted to ask where you now enable desktop effects
[22:54] <tbrock> can someone point me in the right direction
[22:54] <bluewraith> skullmonkey: what are you trying to download with wine? Its more of an emulator for *some* windows programs... not really a download client
[22:55] <rikkimaru> erUSUL: is there a way to move it?
[22:55] <erUSUL> rikkimaru: you will have to play tricks and fool the windows instaler i guess. Dunnno couse i never tried
[22:55] <boggystudios>  is there a tutorial on how to customize edubuntu (or any other linux distro) to a particular school?
[22:55] <amenado> rikkimaru-> am not 100% sure, but if its below something like 1024 cylinder,, at least thats how the old stuff seem to work..you myabe okay...not sure though
[22:55] <wwalker> what tool should I use to add/change the id3 tags in existing .mp3 files under ubuntu?  I'd prefer a command line program
[22:55] <Skullmonkey> bluewraith and ere4si its not even running. when i try to open anything that relates to wine (even to configure wine) my comp freezes
[22:55] <Khajavi> amenado: can I run X via chroot? how?
[22:55] <wwalker> so I can script it
[22:56] <rikkimaru> amenado: I already have a rather large ext3 at the beginningg of the drive.   Is there a way I can move it so unallocated space is at the front?
[22:56] <erUSUL> rikkimaru: iirc you can not move the beggining of a ext3 partition but you better check it elsewhere
[22:56] <bluewraith> rikkimaru: have you tried gparted? Its a bootable live-cd that lets you move partitions around. its very slow work though. Took 3 hours to resize 200 gigs for me
[22:56] <amenado> Khajavi-> i dont know, i never tried it, but you know how chroot works? you may have to read tutorials and make sure the libraries it needs are inside it..and reachable
[22:56] <ere4si> Skullmonkey, I don't do wine - sorry
[22:56] <bluewraith> skullmonkey: have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling wine?
[22:56] <xidarian> has anyone here ever had fun with a forkbomb
[22:56] <rikkimaru> bluewraith: I just finished manually resizing my partition (gparted wouldn't work), but I guess now i need to move it...
[22:56] <Skullmonkey> bluewraith yes
[22:57] <amenado> rikkimaru-> you want to do magic? hehehe..use gparted maybe, but if I were you, i'd save the data first
[22:57] <bluewraith> skullmonkey what program are you trying to get to run under wine?
[22:57] <phuzion> Is there a good code editor that can show the differences between two revisions of a file, similar to what mediawiki will do?
[22:57] <rikkimaru> amenado: i don't understand
[22:57] <Skullmonkey> bluewraith i havent tried any. i cant even open the window to configure wine. all my comp does is think then freeze completely
[22:57] <rikkimaru> amenado: I've already resized it, it's just sitting at the front of the table
[22:57] <prince_jammys> rikkimaru: do you have the gparted live cd or did you install gparted with APT?
[22:58] <archman> hi, a little offtopic here. How to turn off that 'has joined' and 'has left' messages not to display on irssi?
[22:58] <rikkimaru> prince_jammys: I've been using gparted off of my xubuntu livecd
[22:58] <rikkimaru> prince_jammys: I don't have any blank Cds -_-
[22:58] <amenado> rikkimaru-> i dont know how you have moved/resize your partition, but you also then now have to re-arrange grub entry if you move the partitions
[22:58] <bluewraith> skullmonkey: what program do you use to start wine?
[22:58] <Khajavi> amenado: ok I read it again patiently. (i need it to create new customize live cd) thank for your response
[22:58] <rikkimaru> amenado: I'm going to ahve to screw with GRUB anyway if I install windows
[22:58] <prince_jammys> rikkimaru: oh ok. didn't know it came with xubuntu
[22:58] <GortiZ> hi to all
[22:58] <Jahromeo> is there any app that allows me to install my current install on my 4gb flashdrive?
[22:58] <mneptok> phuzion: jedit has a diff plugin
[22:59] <Skullmonkey> bluewraith ive tried terminal and from the applications menu and they both freeze my comp
[22:59] <amenado> rikkimaru-> well do it, i suggest gparted, but you claimed it did not work..so..
[22:59] <phuzion> mneptok, you mean gedit, or is there a program called jedit?
[22:59] <rikkimaru> amenado: I didn't try it for moving, but resizing failed because it kept mounting the drive it was trying to resize
[22:59] <TrustNoOne> i have xp pro and ubuntu dual booted, i want to remove xp and put on gentoo, should i just delete that partition and install gentoo on it? and gentoo boot loader should load my options for ubuntu?
[22:59] <rikkimaru> amenado: do you know of another way to move it other than gparted?
[23:00] <xidarian> if anyone is bored and doesn't mind having there computer freeze try this, its known as a fork bomb, dont' do it if you dont' want ot have ot do a hard reset tho, just type ":(){ :|:& };:" at the command prompt and hit enter, then wait a few, be careful tho, it will freeze ubuntu, you will have ot reboot
[23:00] <bluewraith> skullmonkey: under my install of wine, which I havn't realy used... I just open the windows exe of the file and wine takes over from there automatically.
[23:00] <Jahromeo> is there any app that allows me to install my current install on my 4gb flashdrive? - something similar to norton ghost where i can just copy this install and make it bootable on my 4gb drive
[23:00] <fgdgdfgdf> how i can see the version of openssh i use ?
[23:00] <bluewraith> skullmonkey: what program are you trying to use wine for? a game?
[23:00] <mneptok> phuzion: jedit. sudo apt-get install jedit. http://jedit.sf.net
[23:00] <GortiZ> someone could help me with mesa drivers? I want to know if there are some options to make a powersave under mesa drivers... I used catalyst drivers and they have 3 power configurations: battery saving, balanced and performance.. there's something like that with mesa drivers?
[23:00] <Skullmonkey> bluewraith that also freezes. and a game
[23:00] <amenado> rikkimaru-> yes, one buys another hard disk, move it over there, verify, then repartition the old drive
[23:00] <bluewraith> skullmonkey: sorry then... i'm not quite sure what is wrong.
[23:01] <rikkimaru> Does anyone know of a way to move my partition from the front of the table other than gparted?
[23:01] <rikkimaru> amenado: i'm on a laptop :D
[23:01] <rikkimaru> amenado: plus, that's not really feasible
[23:01] <amenado> rikkimaru-> well, if not, you are sol
[23:01] <prince_jammys> rikkimaru: check if the gparted that comes with xubuntu has all the same features
[23:01] <Skullmonkey> bluewraith nobody does :( thx anyways
[23:01] <rikkimaru> prince_jammys: I can try using it again, but last time I got errors that didn't treally make sense
[23:01] <hischild> GortiZ, not afaik since they don't use your gfx card heavily (unless i'm wrong on this one?)
[23:01] <Jahromeo> what is the best program to use if i wish to make a bootable copy of my current install on my flashdrive - for work or play or whatever
[23:01] <rikkimaru> prince_jammys: rebootin'
[23:02] <Jahromeo> what is the best program to use if i wish to make a bootable copy of my current install on my flashdrive - for work or play or whatever - to always have my distro with me wherver i go
[23:02] <julio_pe> how to install iTask (dock) in Ubuntu, without E17 ???
[23:02] <mneptok> !repeat > Jahromeo
[23:02] <amenado> rikkimaru-> you can not get an external drive? or replace your laptop drive?
[23:02] <prince_jammys> rikkimaru: what i mean is maybe the xubuntu gparted is not the same as the gparted live cd.
[23:02] <fgdgdfgdf> how i can see the version of openssh i use ?
[23:02] <amenado> ssh -version ?
[23:03] <fgdgdfgdf> thx
[23:03] <erUSUL> fgdgdfgdf: apt-cache policy ssh
[23:03] <GortiZ> hischild, :(
[23:03] <GortiZ> well thanks
[23:03] <hischild> GortiZ, you don't need that either, since it's already energy saving
[23:04] <JasonWoof> can anybody explain why epiphany now takes 12 minutes to start?
[23:04] <AstorZZZ> ubuntu(w/ gnome) is working helluva slow on my portable 20gb hard, 2.2ghz celeron, 512 megs of ram and a sis integrated video
[23:04] <JasonWoof> epiphany  3.51s user 0.39s system 0% cpu 12:49.40 total
[23:04] <GortiZ> hischild, one thing is low load and another is using a low clock with low load :(
[23:04] <julio_pe> How to install iTask (dock) in Ubuntu ???
[23:04] <AstorZZZ> i set up a xfce 4
[23:04] <AstorZZZ> it's still slove
[23:04] <AstorZZZ> *slow
[23:05] <hischild> GortiZ, good point there ... but compare windows no load vs linux full load ... and here linux still beats win on battery time then
[23:05] <AstorZZZ> opera runs slowly
[23:05] <JasonWoof> I updated everything "mark all updates", "apply" deleted /etc/network/interfaces, rebooted and ran network-manager
[23:05] <AstorZZZ> switching between tabs is slow
[23:05] <AstorZZZ> it's a pain
[23:05] <AstorZZZ> why?
[23:05] <GortiZ> hischild, i agree.. but i'm still searching the better ways to long lasting my battery :D
[23:06] <Stwange> JasonWoof, because you've got a CPU draining timer with nice graphics timing it :)
[23:06] <hischild> GortiZ, if you manage to find one let me know! i'm still very much interested in that!
[23:06] <AstorZZZ> winxp ran like a charm
[23:06] <GortiZ> hischild, I'm used to use my laptop on battery and 30 minutes of power are always wellcome :D
[23:06] <GortiZ> hischild, i'll do
[23:06] <hoarycripple> AstorZZZ, is something taking up all your RAM and/or CPU time?
[23:06] <Digi> ubuntu has a santanic verdsion?
[23:06] <AstorZZZ> hoarycripple: not quite
[23:07] <KaiserM> Ok, so I tried to update, it froze, now it says I need to run dpkg --configure -a, but when I try that it says I need superterminal privelidges, and when I try to download the superterminal program is says run dpkg --configure -a
[23:07] <AstorZZZ> running a task usually takes a "long time"
[23:07] <hischild> GortiZ, now we're talking about it ... it actually is so interesting i'm gonna find some time now
[23:07] <hoarycripple> AstorZZZ, what is the output of top in a shell?
[23:07] <AstorZZZ> cpu is 100% when i just move through administration/system/apps menus
[23:07] <nickrud_> KaiserM: run   sudo dpkg --configure -a   (sudo gives admin privs)
[23:07] <amenado> KaiserM-> you meant super user priviledge?  use sudo
[23:07] <AstorZZZ> it's 5-10% idle i guess
[23:08] <Digi> here is a ?
[23:08] <nickrud_> Digi: someone's idea of a thematic joke
[23:08] <Joff> whats the command to restart x server?
[23:08] <Digi>  how do I get wallpaper in the background while the cude is rotating
[23:08] <AstorZZZ> hoarycripple: where?
[23:08] <Joff> please
[23:09] <hoarycripple> AstorZZZ, where what?
[23:09] <KaiserM> sweet...now it froze configuring tzdata, do I need to do anything with that?
[23:09] <nickrud_> Digi: #compiz-fusion has people who know that stuff inside out
[23:09] <Digi> ok
[23:09] <nickrud_> KaiserM: give it some time, tzdata can tak a while
[23:09] <AstorZZZ> hoarycripple: "AstorZZZ, what is the output of top in a shell?"
[23:09] <TrustNoOne> how do you change the speed of your cursor on the touchpad
[23:09] <Joff> #compiz-fusion
[23:09] <AstorZZZ> top of the shell?
[23:09] <KaiserM> I gave it some 4 hours and it overheated my comp and froze
[23:09] <hoarycripple> AstorZZZ, yeah, open a terminal and type in "top
[23:09] <nickrud_> Joff: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[23:09] <hoarycripple> AstorZZZ, "top"
[23:10] <chris_d> AstorZZZ: In a shell, run "top"
[23:10] <archman> Digi: on compizconfig on cube there is some background options, skydome...
[23:10] <KaiserM> the little circle quit spinning, too
[23:10] <AstorZZZ> ok, done
[23:10] <Joff> nickrud_: thanks
[23:10] <nickrud_> TrustNoOne: you would add some configs to /etc/X11/xorg.conf , man synaptics has all the options
[23:10] <hoarycripple> AstorZZZ, something using a lot of cpu or ram?
[23:10] <AstorZZZ> nope
[23:11] <AstorZZZ> apps are loading slowly, switching between tabs in opera is slow
[23:11] <nickrud_> KaiserM: hm, what little circle would be running when   sudo dpkg --configure -a   is running?
[23:11] <hoarycripple> AstorZZZ, did you turn off all/any eyecandy?
[23:11] <AstorZZZ> hoarycripple: i switched from gnome to xfce 4.0
[23:11] <KaiserM> I was talking about when it snagged on tzdata
[23:11] <AstorZZZ> is there anything i can disable?
[23:12] <nickrud_> KaiserM: have you run that sudo command yet?
[23:12] <hoarycripple> AstorZZZ, not familiar with xfce, but doesn't that have a built in composite manager too?  are you running with the composite extension enabled?
[23:12] <KaiserM> yeah it executed, thank you
[23:12] <chris_d> AstorZZZ: If you know how to use pastebin, run: top -b -n 1 | head  6 and copy the output to pastebin.
[23:12] <billytwowilly> hi, how do I remove hard drives from my desktop in gnome? I want them mounted, I just don't want to see them on the desktop.
[23:13] <nickrud_> KaiserM: ok,  try    sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   ,  you usually get more useful error messages in the terminal
[23:13] <Satan> can I use iTask on gnome?
[23:13] <nickrud_> billytwowilly: either mount them someplace other than /media, or run    gconf-editor  /apps/nautilus/desktop  and turn off show volumes
[23:14] <AstorZZZ> hoarycripple: i've no idea what's a composite manager
[23:14] <AstorZZZ> chris_d: no i dont :/
[23:15] <KaiserM> nickrud: hold on a minute my landlord was at the door
[23:15] <AstorZZZ> it's takes a second or even two to just switch between tabs in opera
[23:15] <ogre> I have an ipod but dumped windows and my external harddrive got dropped whilst plugged in so i damaged the head. i hear there is a way to pull music off my ipod using amarok but am not sure how. anybody know?
[23:15] <hoarycripple> AstorZZZ, in a terminal:  less /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Composite
[23:16] <CorruptTerrorist> hey guys, how do i get perl on apache?
[23:16] <hoarycripple> AstorZZZ, if Composite is enabled, and xfwm4 is compiled with composite support, that will cause a slow down
[23:16] <billytwowilly> nickrud_, I put them in /mnt/ and they still show up.
[23:16] <David_> Hi, in need of some help, very new to the idea of Linux and chosen Ubuntu, just installed it and it installed just fine, but it freezes, I've seen that some people are having problems like this but I can't seem to get mine to work, I can move the mouse but thats it.  I'm running an INtel Pentium 4 3.02, 1 gig of ram, any ideas?
[23:17] <nickrud_> CorruptTerrorist: you should only need to install libapache2-mod-perl2 , and maybe restart apache
[23:17] <CorruptTerrorist> oh ok
[23:17] <billytwowilly> nickrud_, I don't want to turn off displaying all media, I still want my ipod and flash drives and cd's/dvd's to show up.
[23:17] <CorruptTerrorist> nickrud_,  << sudo apt-get install apache libapache-mod-perl >> ?
[23:17] <AstorZZZ> hoarycripple: nuthin
[23:17] <narg> How would one get gdb (or objdump) to output (dis)assembly that is in a format that is ready to be reassembled?
[23:18] <nickrud_> billytwowilly: a sec, gotta run deal with a problem, CorruptTerrorist no, the one I mentioned
[23:18] <fgdgdfgdf> root@andLinux:~$ ssh xx.xx.xx.xx
[23:18] <fgdgdfgdf> ssh: relocation error: ssh: symbol EVP_Cipher, version OPENSSL_0.9.8 not defined in file libcrypto.so.0.9.8 with link time reference
[23:18] <archman> guys how to turn off notices such ass 'has quit' , 'joined'...?
[23:18] <AstorZZZ> it's not there
[23:18] <fgdgdfgdf> anyone know why this error ?
[23:18] <spork969> amarok won't show the songs on my hard drive. Is there a better media player that can sync with an ipod OR is there a way t fix this problem?
[23:19] <hoarycripple> AstorZZZ, i don't know then...did you type it in exactly as above, caps and all?
[23:19] <AstorZZZ> hoarycripple: jup
[23:19] <kane77> spork969, banshee syncs with iPod well..
[23:19] <rikkimaru_> How do i mount something to the harddrive and get grub to boot it?
[23:19] <spork969> kane77, thanks ill try that
[23:19] <rikkimaru_> I have an iso that I want to boot from
[23:20] <hoarycripple> AstorZZZ, sorry...i'm out of ideas for now.
[23:20] <nickrud_> billytwowilly: could you put up your /etc/fstab please
[23:20] <AstorZZZ> hoarycripple: i even tried cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | more
[23:20] <AstorZZZ> didnt find the composite word mentioned
[23:20] <billytwowilly> nickrud_, don't worry about it, you sound busy. I'll fix it later.
[23:21] <Bloguero__Connor> now I can't install postgresql in a just installed Ubuntu. I get this: http://pastebin.com/f6793a157
[23:21] <yo__> can i back up my hard drive to another comuter?
[23:21] <nickrud_> billybob: not now. someone here set up a new mail account, but didn't set outgoing server to 587. Easy fix
[23:21] <AstorZZZ> switching between tabs takes 1-2 seconds - that's totally unacceptable :/
[23:21] <AstorZZZ> and cumbersome
[23:21] <kane77> spork969, there are few other tools such as hippod (not sure if it's spelled correctly)
[23:21] <rikkimaru_> Does anyone know how I can get grub to boot an iso from my hd?
[23:21] <AstorZZZ> overall ubuntu works slowly on 2.2ghz, 512 mb ram
[23:22] <AstorZZZ> what the hell
[23:22] <spork969> kane77: i have hipopod but its not working too great
[23:22] <PriceChild> AstorZZZ, more ram would be nice
[23:22] <yo__> how can i back up my harddrive to another computer?
[23:22] <AstorZZZ> PriceChild: come on
[23:23] <nickrud_> more ram is necessary, gnome's increasing ram requirements is what finally forced me to upgrade to a machine that could hold more memory
[23:23] <PriceChild> AstorZZZ, that's my guess... i run on 768 mostly and that's fine, surprised you're saying its slow :/
[23:23] <kane77> spork969, I guess I haven't tried it yet, but I have it installed...
[23:23] <CorruptTerrorist> guys... how do i install perl on apache2?
[23:23] <yo__> help...
[23:23] <AstorZZZ> i blame the integrated video card!
[23:23] <spork969> yo__: using either a usb cable or a crossover cable is one of the easiest ways
[23:24] <yo__> mm..
[23:24] <nickrud_> CorruptTerrorist: did you install libapache2-mod-perl2 ?
[23:24] <yo__> i don't have either of those
[23:24] <yo__> adhoc network?
[23:24] <kane77> spork969, but my iPod is kind of messed up after installing linux for ipod.. :/
[23:24] <compy> can someone help me register on this server
[23:24] <CorruptTerrorist> nickrud_, through synaptic?
[23:24] <jaderaven> d
[23:24] <nickrud_> CorruptTerrorist: sure
[23:24] <compy> ./msg nickerve register compy?
[23:24] <KaiserM> so my next question is, I have a laptop with a bluetooth radio inside, and it currently refuses to turn on; any suggestions?
[23:24] <David_> Hi, in need of some help, very new to the idea of Linux and chosen Ubuntu, just installed it and it installed just fine, but it freezes, I've seen that some people are having problems like this but I can't seem to get mine to work, I can move the mouse but thats it.  I'm running an INtel Pentium 4 3.02, 1 gig of ram, any ideas
[23:24] <KaiserM> and or its not being recognized by windows and currently not functioning under ubuntu
[23:25] <kostkon> David_, graphics card?
[23:25] <jaderaven> can someone help me get started, i have a few basic questions about ubuntu... an instant message might be best
[23:25] <jaderaven> thanks
[23:25] <David_> I am running a Radeon 9800pro graphics card
[23:25] <CorruptTerrorist> nickrud_, still not working
[23:25] <yo__> how can i back up my hd on a windows comp to a ubuntu comp thru an adhoc network?
[23:25] <Bloguero__Connor> now I can't install postgresql in a just installed Ubuntu. I get this: http://pastebin.com/f6793a157
[23:25] <PriceChild> jaderaven, no-one has any idea unless you ask
[23:26] <nickrud_> CorruptTerrorist: hm, I use the libapache2-mod-php5 , works fine. I'd expect the perl to work as well, it's a well known extension
[23:26] <jaderaven> haha well im not even sure where to start i figgured someone might wanna take this up in an instant message if they feel so inclined
[23:26] <KaiserM> its on a laptop and fn+f2 doesnt turn on bluetooth like it should, its been turning on and off my wifi with windows
[23:26] <spork969> kane77: linux ON your ipod?
[23:26]  * CorruptTerrorist tries installing fastcgi
[23:26] <CorruptTerrorist> hmmm
[23:27] <Decinoge> INTERNETS, I NEED YOUR HELP... STATE A REAL GOOD REASON TO START A REVOLUTION ON A OCIDENTAL COUNTRY LIKE AN EU COUNTRY OR USA.
[23:27] <Decinoge> creativity can exist
[23:27] <jaderaven> im haveing issues installing things.
[23:27] <nickrud_> KaiserM: windows? we don't do windows here :)
[23:27] <spork969> Decinoge: im pretty sure thats not relevant
[23:27] <CorruptTerrorist> nickrud_, i use php5 aswell, but my perl script doesnt work
[23:27] <jaderaven> im sure im gonna need synaptic but im not even sure what that is
[23:28] <nickrud_> !training | jaderaven (reading this will get you grounded)
[23:28] <ubotu> jaderaven (reading this will get you grounded): A desktop course manual for Ubuntu 7.10 can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
[23:28] <KaiserM> Ok; I bring it up because windows is supposed to have a bluetooth section in the device manager if I have a card, and it doesnt
[23:28] <ogre> I have an ipod but dumped windows and my external harddrive got dropped whilst plugged in so i damaged the head. i hear there is a way to pull music off my ipod using amarok but am not sure how. anybody know?
[23:28] <KaiserM> ...but I do have a card
[23:28] <jaderaven> thank you much
[23:28] <CorruptTerrorist> !apache > CorruptTerrorist
[23:28] <jaderaven> thanks a ton guys
[23:28] <KaiserM> just a thought; sounds kind of like im troubleshooting a hardware issue yeah?
[23:28] <Khajavi> Help> I cant set my time
[23:28] <spork969> how do i install a program through wine?
[23:28] <CorruptTerrorist> !synaptic | jaderaven
[23:28] <ubotu> jaderaven: synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[23:29] <beautifulsnow> spork969 install Wine-Doors
[23:29] <Jangari> ogre, rhythmbox works excellently with ipods
[23:29] <beautifulsnow> It makes it very easy to install anything
[23:29] <lapisdecor> !wine
[23:29] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[23:29] <jaderaven> so thats what i need to install certain apps like frost wire
[23:29] <spork969> thanks beautifulsnow
[23:29] <CorruptTerrorist> jaderaven, frostwire will be the death of you
[23:29] <spork969> beautifulsnow: where do i get it?
[23:29] <jaderaven> lol okay then glad to know that
[23:30] <jaderaven> what should i do for p2p needs and for torrents?
[23:30] <yo__> can someone help me with backing up my hardrive to another computer
[23:30] <beautifulsnow> spork969 you can usually right click any exe and "run with wine" to install it, i installed a bunch of stuff like that.  To install wine doors, run: sudo apt-get install wine-doors
[23:30] <KaiserM> so, having a bluetooth radio, should it work as is with linux, and does linux not running it right now imply its disconnected somehow?
[23:30] <Khajavi> help> I cant synchronize my time from GUI. is there any command line to perform this task?
[23:30] <nando> Hello
[23:30] <jaderaven> should i just use youtorrent with wine?
[23:30] <CorruptTerrorist> nickrud_, what about cgi?
[23:31] <spork969> thanks beautifulsnow ill try that
[23:31] <spork969> jaderaven: ubuntu comes with bittorrent
[23:31] <krut> pure rock fury
[23:31] <By_Turkey> www.MircAlemTR.com  <-  Turkey GirlS Chat ChanneL Enter here please.
[23:31] <jaderaven> serrioulsy? and under what name
[23:31] <bastid_raZor> jaderaven; you could use transmission or deluge or possibly even kTorrent
[23:31] <nickrud_> CorruptTerrorist: I've been looking at some stuff on the web, a sec
[23:31] <beautifulsnow> turkey girls? Sounds .. yummy... *goes get gravy*
[23:31] <spork969> jaderaven: bittorrent. try downloading a torrent file and you will see it
[23:31] <Khajavi>  help> I cant synchronize my time from GUI. is there any command line to perform this task?
[23:32] <KaiserM> need to restart, brb
[23:32] <fgdgdfgdf> i have installed one rpm how can i uninstall a rpm package ?
[23:32] <yo__> im having internet troubles with my brothers comp, i installed ubuntu on it, and i've been trying to get it connect to the net several different ways but it won't work..
[23:32] <Scunizi> fgdgdfgdf, did you "alien" it before install?
[23:33] <fgdgdfgdf> no idea what is alien"
[23:33] <fgdgdfgdf> i have made apt-get install
[23:33] <CorruptTerrorist> yoohoo... how can i chage my hostname?
[23:33] <Khajavi> any one know how can I synchronize my time from terminal?
[23:33] <nickrud_> CorruptTerrorist: https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/libapache2-mod-perl2/+bug/55464 , there's a discussion there, plus some stuff to add to a file in /etc
[23:33] <David_> Still having some trouble with the freezing, am I being a total nood and missing something really obvious? system is, Pentium 4 3.06, 1 gig Ram, Radeon 9800pro, Asus P4C800 board
[23:33] <Scunizi> fgdgdfgdf, alien is a program that tries to convert rpm's to .deb.. how did you manage to install an rpm?
[23:33] <CorruptTerrorist> ok, thanks nickrud_
[23:34] <spork969> beautifulsnow: the installation thing comes up and says "This iTunes installer requires that your computer is running Windows XP or Windows Vista" It's just an .exe file, and i hit run with wine
[23:34] <fgdgdfgdf> sorry what i made was apt-get install nameofprograma
[23:34] <ogre> Jangari:  so i can just drag/drop the music i have on my ipod to my external with rhythmbox?
[23:34] <Jahromeo> what is the best program to use if i wish to make a bootable copy of my current install on my flashdrive - for work or play or whatever - to always have my distro with me wherver i go
[23:34] <fgdgdfgdf> is there a way to unistall it ?
[23:34] <Scunizi> fgdgdfgdf, then if it was a RPM it didn't install.. apt-get doesn't know what to do with RPM's
[23:35] <bastid_raZor> fgdgdfgdf; apt-get remove nameofprogram
[23:35] <magnetron> !install > Jahromeo
[23:35] <Jangari> ogre, more or less
[23:35] <ogre> fgdgdfgdf:  sudo apt-get remove nameofprogram
[23:35] <Khajavi> jahromeo: rymastersys is good not the best
[23:35] <spork969> beautifulsnow: and "sudo get-apt install wine-doors" comes up with E: Could't find package wine-doors"
[23:35] <fgdgdfgdf> ok thx!
[23:35] <beautifulsnow> spork969 go to "start menu" -> Wine -> Configure Wine, theres an option to check XP/Vista. Let me check on that second problem you have brb
[23:35] <Jangari> ogre, you can even specify exactly how you want the resultant files named, whether it's [track no.]-[title] or some other configuration
[23:35] <jaderaven> Is cedega worth the download?
[23:36] <Scunizi> bastid_raZor, ogre I would have mentioned that but he said it was a RMP he installed.. :*
[23:36] <Khajavi> jahremao: you can find it in mint repository
[23:36] <Jangari> but, ogre, i don't think it supports acc/mp4, and you might have to install restricted extras to do it
[23:36] <bastid_raZor> Scunizi; yeah i was confused too about the rpm actually installing
[23:36] <nickrud_> jaderaven: if you really need to run windows programs, you might want to. Myself, I don't need any of them
[23:36] <yo__> i tried launching ubuntu in windows and the window says "your CPU does not support long mode.  Sometimes (maybe 1/10) times it starts up can see other networks but can't connect. What is this issue?
[23:37] <yo__> where do i got dsl?
[23:37] <yo__> get..
[23:37] <Jangari> yo__: were you using the 64 bit version of ubuntu?
[23:37] <yo__> yep
[23:38] <spork969> google = great
[23:38] <yo__> amd64 processor
[23:38] <yo__> so yea lol
[23:38] <jaderaven> nickrud_: personaly i dont really want to ever see windows again or anything windowsish, but play a few games in my spare time and a few of my favorites were added to cedega.
[23:38] <Jangari> well, try what the error message told you, yo__, and use a "32 bit distribution"
[23:38] <yo__> where do i get a 32 bit distribution.. of what?
[23:38] <Jangari> of ubuntu
[23:38] <jaderaven> is it hard to install cedega
[23:38] <jaderaven> ?
[23:38] <David_> Still having some trouble with the freezing, am I being a total nood and missing something really obvious? system is, Pentium 4 3.06, 1 gig Ram, Radeon 9800pro, Asus P4C800 board
[23:38] <nickrud_> jaderaven: I do have a windows partition, purely for games. I find it too much like work, getting games to run in wine/cedega.
[23:38] <yo__> but i have a 64 bit processor
[23:38] <Jangari> if that's what it told you to do
[23:38] <talntid> Hi all.
[23:39] <yo__> maybe its talking about grub..
[23:39] <Jangari> sure, yo__, but the error message explicitly said "use a 32bit distribution", so try that
[23:39] <bastid_raZor> jaderaven; #winehq may be of more help
[23:39] <chris_d> jaderaven: No, Cedega is an easy install.
[23:39] <yo__> oi.. okay..
[23:39] <jaderaven> lol for some reason ubuntu 64bit and windows 32 bit did not play well with each other on my hard driver or seperate hard drives
[23:39] <chris_d> jaderaven: But you may want to check if regular wine servers your needs.
[23:39] <avis> cedega has .deb's for installation too
[23:39] <Photocopy> I am trying to install the debs in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/global_menu#deb this page. First I did the command shown, and it ran, and installed fine, with no errors, as it says there should not be. Then, when I try to run the debs there, they require libgtk2.0-0 which, according to synaptic is installed. I tried to reinstall it too.. whats wrong
[23:39] <talntid> I have a Wyse thin client. When it boots, it has RDP and ICA connection support. Does Ubuntu support being a SERVER for either of those?
[23:39] <beautifulsnow> spork969 http://www.wine-doors.org/releases/wine-doors_0.1.2_all.deb    Let me know how it goes ---- were you able to change wine settings to xp?
[23:39] <yo__> another friggin 20 minute download
[23:39] <Jangari> meh,
[23:40] <Jangari> small price to pay for a vastly superios architecture
[23:40] <Jangari> superior*
[23:40] <yo__> i would completely install ubuntu on my comp
[23:40] <yo__> but i don't have anything to backup my files
[23:40] <jaderaven> i couldnt figgure out how to get wine to work.
[23:40] <jaderaven> i mean i downloaded it, but its not something u just click install and use aparently
[23:40] <Jahromeo> i use virtualbox
[23:40] <Jahromeo> instead of wine
[23:40] <chris_d> yo__: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/
[23:41] <Jangari> yo__: how large is your current windows installation, and how much spare room do you have on your hdd?
[23:41] <yo__> 8 mb
[23:41] <yo__> lmao
[23:41] <Jahromeo> virtualbox is nice creates a virtual machine for your windows install
[23:41] <chris_d> yo__: http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2007/09/09/backup-with-rsync-under-linux
[23:41] <nickrud_> yo__: I don't feel that pain, 20 minute download. Yo're complaining?
[23:41] <Jangari> you have 8MB spare?
[23:41] <yo__> yeah lol
[23:41] <jaderaven> u mean gigs?
[23:41] <yo__> no
[23:41] <Jangari> how big is the hdd?
[23:41] <jaderaven> wow...
[23:41] <chris_d> yo__: http://jwz.livejournal.com/801607.html
[23:41] <yo__> 8 megabytes
[23:41] <Jangari> altogether
[23:42] <yo__> unpartitioned yes
[23:42] <Jangari> no,
[23:42] <yo__> but other than that.. h/o lemme check
[23:42] <Jangari> hang on
[23:42] <chris_d> yo__: If you're just looking to back up an 8Mb partition, use dd.
[23:42] <yo__> 6.39 gigs
[23:42] <Jangari> it makes no sense
[23:42] <yo__> k
[23:42] <Jangari> 6.39 GB is... you entire windows installation?
[23:42] <yo__> i have two computers two back up with
[23:42] <yo__> no......
[23:42] <yo__> i have a 60gb hd
[23:42] <Jangari> better
[23:43] <Jangari> continue
[23:43] <jaderaven> what would be easier to install cedega or wine?
[23:43] <yo__> my c drive partition is 52.2 gigs
[23:43]  * chris_d will let Jangari talk with yo__
[23:43] <yo__> there's a couple other partitions for whatever they're for
[23:43] <Photocopy> jaderaven: wine, cedega is not a free program
[23:43] <David_> Still having some trouble with the freezing, am I being a total nood and missing something really obvious? system is, Pentium 4 3.06, 1 gig Ram, Radeon 9800pro, Asus P4C800 board.  Any help would be very greatful, I can't seem to find a solution
[23:43] <Jangari> for whatever they're for?
[23:43] <Photocopy> I am trying to install the debs in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/global_menu#deb this page. First I did the command shown, and it ran, and installed fine, with no errors, as it says there should not be. Then, when I try to run the debs there, they require libgtk2.0-0 which, according to synaptic is installed. I tried to reinstall it too.. whats wrong?
[23:43] <Enigma0> jaderaven,  wine's an easier install
[23:43] <yo__> i have no idea what there for lol
[23:43] <yo__> my computer came with them
[23:44] <chris_d> David_: Random freezing can usually be traced to either RAM or video issues.
[23:44] <Jangari> try this: reformat the remaining 7 odd GB and install ubuntu on that (making sure you have at least a gig for swap)
[23:44] <jaderaven> could someone tell me what im doing wrong? I downloaded wine from their filefront, but all i got was a bunch of folders and txt files... the source im asumeing
[23:44] <Photocopy> lol, my swap is 7gigs
[23:44] <werneck> I made a preseed script to automate install, but I don't want it to download anything from the network.. how to skip it and use only the packages from the ISO ?
[23:44] <chris_d> David_: You may want to run memtest for 24 hours or so to do some serious burning on your RAM.
[23:44] <Jangari> it's more than enough for ubuntu, and you can mount your windows partition all the same,
[23:44] <ally_xoxoxo> hey guys, how do i change "xorg" config?
[23:44] <yo__> well unfortunately, im afraid of resizing my windows partition because i have files that i ABSOLUTELY cannot use
[23:44] <chris_d> David_: Thermal issues are also common.
[23:44] <bod_> jaderaven, wine is in repo's.......
[23:44] <David_> it doesn't seem to be random, it always happens, after about 5 minutes
[23:45] <Enigma0> hence why i said it was easier :)
[23:45] <jcgkffycs> I ran the command compiz --replace emerald --replace, but emerald hasn't started, and I no longer have windows borders any help
[23:45] <arnowa> can somebody help me with my ubuntu installation hanging?
[23:45] <chris_d> David_: So, every 5 minutes it freezes then you reboot?
[23:45] <chris_d> David_: or does it just "hiccup"?
[23:45] <yo__> and if im running ubuntu, i want it to be my primary OS, with windows being there on maybe a 5gb partition in case i need it for something
[23:45] <jaderaven> bod_: see your going to explain that to me ive just reacently said skrew the system hog that is windows... and switched to linux
[23:45] <David_> yeah, I can still move the mouse about, but I can't click, and I have to reboot
[23:45] <Jangari> here's the best possible solution, yo__: get a better hard drive, create four partitions, one for swap, one for windows, one for ubuntu ad one for data, you'll only need 10GB for each OS
[23:45] <Photocopy> yo_: 5g int enough for windows
[23:46] <yo__> i don't have any money for all this
[23:46] <yo__> im dead broke
[23:46] <littlepinkdot> What priority do all jobs have by default in linux for printing?
[23:46] <KaiserM> any gurus want to have some fun?  you could talk the through this page : http://cs.ozerki.net/zap/wacom-bt/
[23:46] <Jangari> a new hard drive costs like 40 bucks
[23:46] <yo__> just two laptops, one on ubuntu and the other on windows
[23:46] <jaderaven> i mean your going to have to explain that to me.... not the way it sounded
[23:46] <Naitse> hi!
[23:46] <Photocopy> yo__: 5g isnt enough for windows XP
[23:46] <Naitse> i need a little help
[23:46] <chris_d> David_: After you reboot, it runs for another 5 minutes, then freezes again?
[23:46] <jaderaven> that sounded like me being an ass
[23:46] <Squawk> quick question. When I first installed ubuntu I was never actualy asked to provide a root password. Rather, I was asked for a user password and I could then use that to su to root. Having done so I set a root password straight away, but does the root account have a password set after install at all?
[23:46] <yo__> how much does xp need?
[23:46] <yo__> jaderaven u got aim? this place is too crowded and im not getting any information..
[23:46] <pepsi> Squawk, no
[23:46] <Jangari> my xp installation already uses 6 GB and it only has the bare essential programs
[23:46] <David_> yeah, I'm dual booting with Vista, it always seems to happen, was fine when running with live CD
[23:47] <Naitse> every time yhat i wanna play a movie the player exit it self
[23:47] <chris_d> David_: Or do you need to wait a bit before it boots?
[23:47] <Naitse> i got the codecs
[23:47] <jcgkffycs> Squawk: no
[23:47] <bluewraith> squawk: ubuntu installs with a random root password. add "sudo" to the beginning of any command to run it as root
[23:47] <Photocopy> yo__: It bloats,id give it 15g... but then again this is coming from the guy with a 7gig swap
[23:47] <jaderaven> yes ill get on aim my screen name is brownboy1 gimme a sec to get on plz
[23:47] <Naitse> try with vlc and mplayer
[23:47] <David_> what do you mean wait a bit?
[23:47] <Jangari> which, of course, means spyware, antivirus, firewall, and one program that i use that won't run on wine
[23:47] <chris_d> David_: Do you mind going private for a bit?
[23:47] <David_> no not at all
[23:47] <Photocopy> I am trying to install the debs in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/global_menu#deb this page. First I did the command shown, and it ran, and installed fine, with no errors, as it says there should not be. Then, when I try to run the debs there, they require libgtk2.0-0 which, according to synaptic is installed. I tried to reinstall it too.. whats wrong here?
[23:47] <yo__> k mines gt32208
[23:48] <Squawk> bluewraith, I know how to run commands as root, i was more concened with setting a root password, since sudo su - was enough to get me root privileges, which implied no password for root
[23:48] <bashir> hey
[23:48] <bashir> how do i open a java file
[23:48] <Squawk> bluewraith, or rather, effectively meant a user password was enough to get root access to the whole system
[23:48] <bashir> .jar
[23:48] <Jangari> !root | Squawk
[23:48] <ubotu> Squawk: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:48] <beautifulsnow> I have the same problem as photocopy... It says that lib is ubuntu.1 but needs ubuntu.1.3 or something, which is NOT available :-/
[23:48] <littlepinkdot> What priority do all jobs have by default in linux for printing?
[23:49] <Naitse> hey someon can help me?
[23:49] <Photocopy> beautifulsnow: For the record, thats not the same problem, mine says i need a package already installed.
[23:49] <beautifulsnow> Mmm actually, squawk: sudo passwd (then enter new password for root)
[23:49] <bluewraith> squawk: set a better password? :)  You can (re)set a root password through add users, but its not recommended.
[23:49] <Squawk> Jangari, im an experienced linux user, I know about root/sudo, im just trying to get a grasp of exactly what state we were in after install
[23:49] <Naitse> the media players crashes wen i try to play a movie
[23:49] <werneck> anyone with preseeding experience here?
[23:49] <Squawk> bluewraith, i did it with su to root and just ran passwd
[23:49] <chris_d> beautifulsnow: Not a good idea.
[23:49] <beautifulsnow> why not chris_d?
[23:49] <bod_> Squawk, why do you want a root password anyway?
[23:50] <Squawk> bod_, you want to run a system with no root password?
[23:50] <chris_d> beautifulsnow: You want to keep root access restricted.
[23:50] <beautifulsnow> So that no one can ever guess it?
[23:50] <beautifulsnow> Sounds fair
[23:50] <bluewraith> squawk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:50] <chris_d> beautifulsnow: Making people type "sudo" in front of commands makes them think more about the command.
[23:50] <bod_> Squawk, root on all machines on a clean install has 'no' password
[23:50] <Squawk> bluewraith, I know about sudo (gentoo nut here, testing out ubuntu for my family)
[23:50] <bashir> how do i open a java file
[23:50] <chris_d> beautifulsnow: Also, once you set a root password, it's easier to break.
[23:51] <Naitse> ...
[23:51] <chris_d> bod_: Say what?
[23:51] <Zorbo> Hi, I attempted to install torrentflux via synaptic but the whole thing broke. Debconfig took 10 minutes between user actions to do anything
[23:51] <Naitse> ok there is a eeepc channel?
[23:51] <bod_> chris_d, what?
[23:51] <Zorbo> messing about has now resulted in a broken sql database - how do i purge it from my system
[23:51] <Squawk> bod_, coming from a gentoo background, the only user created at the start is root, and you create a root password. Other users are then added
[23:51] <bluewraith> squawk: ah. so are are you trying to set accounts that cannot sudo/root?
[23:51] <yo__> jaderaven>
[23:51] <chris_d> bod_: (03:50:34 PM) bod_: Squawk, root on all machines on a clean install has 'no' password
[23:51] <yo__> ?
[23:51] <Squawk> bluewraith, no, im interested in what state exaclty an ubuntu system is in after install. Basicaly im trying to learn how ubuntu does things
[23:52] <incorrect_> i have a buggy app which i need to automatically restart
[23:52] <chris_d> David_: ??
[23:52] <incorrect_> can anyone suggest a good method?
[23:52] <bod_> Squawk, root is a user yes, sudo is used to acces the privileges of root, bein root is extremely dangerous, and it means you have to apply a password to 'root' therefore making it hackable,. if root has no password, noone can lo in as root and destroy your system
[23:52] <bashir> java .jar files
[23:52] <bashir> run
[23:52] <David_> yeah did you not get my message?
[23:52] <bashir> anyway
[23:53] <jaderaven> yo__ what did u say your screen anme was?
[23:53] <yo__> gt32008
[23:53] <chris_d> David_: No.
[23:53] <Squawk> bod_, if you have a normal user with sudo privs if someone gets access to a normal user account (easier than the root account), and that user has sudo access to the root account, then you already craeted an easy way in
[23:53] <bod_> chris_d, i dont think root has a password, you have to use sudo to apply a password to root,. but root privelged can be accessed through sudo anyway,. logging in as root is dangerous and unneeded
[23:53] <David_> right I'll send it in private again, ok?
[23:53] <chris_d> bod_: It's not that it has *no* password, its that it's password is set to '!', which is not the same thing.
[23:53] <chris_d> bod_: :)
[23:53] <bod_> Squawk, only if they no the password
[23:53] <Zorbo> Hi, I attempted to install torrentflux via synaptic but the whole thing broke. Debconfig took 10 minutes between user actions to do anything - how do i purge the package from my system
[23:53] <Naitse> sudo passwd
[23:54] <bod_> chris_d, fair play ;~)
[23:54] <chris_d> David_: I have an open private session with you.
[23:54] <werneck> preseeding, anyone?
[23:54] <Jangari> sure bod_, but surely the same could be said of a password protectedc root user account
[23:54] <arnowa> why does an ubuntu install hang after step 5?
[23:54] <hischild> !root
[23:54] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[23:54] <nickrud_> werneck: debconf?
[23:54] <David_> I sent something, guessing you did't get it
[23:54] <werneck> nickrud_: yep
[23:54] <bashir> man i need to run jgrasp but it isnt working for me
[23:54] <chris_d> Jangari: The moment you assign a password to root, the password can be broken.
[23:54] <beautifulsnow> zorbo: sudo apt-get remove --purge torrentflux
[23:54] <Squawk> chris_d, so root has a non empty password after install? k
[23:54] <chris_d> David_: Nope.
[23:55] <Zorbo> k
[23:55] <werneck> nickrud_: I don't want it to try to install anything from the mirror, cdrom only... any idea how to do that?
[23:55] <David_> weird, I'll close it and open it again
[23:55] <mneptok> Squawk: your reasoning is flawed in saying user access to sudo is less secure than a root password.
[23:55] <Jangari> chris_d, yes, but having a user with root privileges, and a password for it, can also be broken, no?
[23:55] <chris_d> Squawk: In the shadow file, having a '!' in the password field means that the user cannot log in through the tty or through X.
[23:55] <bod_> Jangari, true, but say your little sister got hold of your machine -- if your using a normal user -- she accidently types    rm -rf ./*        oh, nothing happens -- if you where root,.,.then you would no longer have a operating system
[23:55] <hischild> werneck, yes. In the sources, select ONLY the cdrom
[23:55] <chris_d> Jangari: Yes.
[23:55] <bashir> anyone know how?
[23:55] <KaiserM> http://cs.ozerki.net/zap/wacom-bt/  anyone want to walk me through that page?  mI have no idea how to do half that stuff
[23:55] <Photocopy> man ubuntu is some annoying crap.
[23:56] <KaiserM> actually, most
[23:56] <werneck> hischild: and what's the option for that in the preseed file?
[23:56] <Squawk> chris_d, I didnt know thats what was in shadow, i updated my root password as soon as I could (liek I said, gentoo user here), and only after doing so wondered what was actualy set after install
[23:56] <chris_d> Jangari: On our production systems, we have two classes of machine--one that requires the user password to sudo and one that requires the root password to sudo.
[23:56] <beautifulsnow> Anyone know how to make KeyRing remember my passwords? I keep telling it to remember them but it always asks me
[23:56] <nickrud_> werneck: heh. A lovely subject, one that I've only skimmed. http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apb.html has a lot of info. Maybe you'll find it there....
[23:56] <David_> chris_d: not sure whats happening
[23:56] <Squawk> mneptok, howso? If a user has a password that gives full access to root through sudo then root already has a password, that users. And since that user does everything on the system, if someone gets that password, your box is down
[23:56] <chris_d> Jangari: That way, if a user account with sudo privileges gets compromised, the cracker won't be able to sudo.
[23:57] <Photocopy> KaiserM: The people here for some reason think helping in the channel can help other users with the same problem, but it doesnt really do any good, only makes the channel go by too fast being too full.
[23:57] <basso> i cant see my 3 ntfs discs in ubuntu
[23:57] <hischild> werneck, system -> administration -> software sources ---> select only the dvd/cdrom and not the other sources
[23:57] <basso> i just connected them and they dont show up
[23:57] <Jangari> chris_d, different password for the user and the user's sudo access?
[23:57] <werneck> hischild: preseed file!
[23:57] <mneptok> Squawk: but if root has a password, you have an account that *almost everyone in the Unix world knows the UID for*
[23:57] <bod_> Squawk, no, the user has a password that can temporarily *borrow* the privileges of root,.,. not access root account
[23:57] <KaiserM> Photocopy: whats that mean?
[23:57] <werneck> nickrud_: ok, thanks
[23:57] <chris_d> Jangari: Yes.
[23:57] <Jangari> ah, okay, that's a bit clearer then
[23:57] <Squawk> bod_, try running sudo su - and see if you get full root privs (you do)
[23:58] <chris_d> Squawk: See my comment to Jangari. It's possible to configure sudo to use a password that is different from the user password.
[23:58] <bod_> Squawk, im aware,. but that doesnt mean i have become the root user
[23:58] <Zorbo> beautifulsnow: i've attempted to reinstall the package via terminal but the install script is still broken - I get a MySQL error about the database it needs not existing upon setup
[23:58] <chris_d> Squawk: It's also possible to prevent that behaviour.
[23:58] <Jangari> chris_d, is that the sudo passwd command?
[23:58] <Squawk> chris_d, I know, as I said i was more interested in the state after install, beyond that I can configure it how I like (or you how you like), which seems to be where the discussion is going
[23:58] <Squawk> bod_, yes it does
[23:58] <KaiserM> hold on im going to open my computer up and see this bluetooth chip
[23:59] <Squawk> bod_, you run "sudo su -" and you ARE root
[23:59] <chris_d> Squawk: The state after install is root is set with a '!' in the password field in shadow.
[23:59] <Zorbo> screw it, the one from the site is 2 versions newer
[23:59] <IronSid3> por favor preciso de ajuda
[23:59] <nickrud_> !es | IronSid3
[23:59] <mneptok> !es > IronSid3
[23:59] <ubotu> IronSid3: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[23:59] <Squawk> chris_d, yeah I know you told me (your the only one who answered the question actualy). Thanks for that
[23:59] <bod_> Squawk, it does not chane me to being the root user, it gives me rot privileges and changes the name in the terminal, if im root in terminal and then try and access synaptic from the gui, it will still ask for a password (afaik) therefore not being the root user
[23:59] <Squawk> bod_, try it
[23:59] <ally_xoxoxo> hey guys, my keyboard settings got changed, how do i edit "xorg"