[08:11] <sveinse> I have a odroid xu board running xenial, and it use apt http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports, but it seems to be getting very little updates. Are other other official apt sources for armhf with updates?


[18:47] <bladernr> Hey, I'm trying to compile the disco kernel from the git tree at 	https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/disco
[18:48] <bladernr> but I'm getting a failure as something is trying to install a non-existant package (spl-dkms__all.deb) into the fakeroot.
[18:49] <bladernr> I was following this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[18:49] <bladernr> it's been a while (a very long while) since I tried manually compiling a kernel, so likely i
[18:49] <bladernr> likely I've done somethig wrong, but I can't, for the life of me figure out what that is.
[20:39] <apw> bladernr, sounds like the zfs/spl versions are missing
[20:40] <apw> bladernr, from debian/dkms-versions
[22:09] <bladernr> apw, ahhh, thanks.  So I imagine that is because I'm trying to compile 5.0 on Xenial...
[22:09] <apw> bladernr, if you don't need zfs then you should be able to turn them off
[22:15] <bladernr> apw, got it, thanks! that should get me unstuck.


[00:35] <JontheEchidna> I think our login screen should have a user list by default
[00:36] <JontheEchidna> just spent the last 15 minutes on the phone with a neighbor (who lives about 5 minutes away) who installed Kubuntu on a laptop, but then forgot their username :s
[00:36] <JontheEchidna> he's fairly tech savy (just not with Linux) so I told him to mount the drive in windows and look in /home to figure out the username
[00:37] <JontheEchidna> but I'd like to avoid this in the future, and if he's having troubles, others probably are too, lol
[00:39] <yofel_> JontheEchidna: we have a ligthdm-kde version with a user list. I would like to use that by default too if we can switch to ligthdm
[00:40] <JontheEchidna> yeah, lightdm-kde is awesome :)
[00:58] <JontheEchidna> this is a weird one: bug 1000508
[00:58] <JontheEchidna> (Basically, muon is broke in quantal. Can't do commits or update checks)
[01:01] <JontheEchidna> ^lol, must have lost power at work
[01:02] <JontheEchidna> (my alt. there just disconnected)
[01:03] <JontheEchidna> with this thunderstorm I can't say I'm surprised tho
[01:05] <yofel_> well, not the first thing I saw failing
[06:17] <markey> hey all
[06:17] <markey> :)
[06:17] <markey> has a new name already been found for Kubuntu?
[06:48] <markey> Mamarok: ^
[06:48] <Mamarok> markey: so far we stay with Kubuntu
[07:01] <markey> Mamarok: oh really, how comes?
[07:02] <Mamarok> I think those who were sat UDS can explain better
[07:02] <Mamarok> at*
[07:03] <markey> I see
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:59] <yofel> can someone please help me understand why gcc 4.7 can't build kdenetwork? I don't quite see what's wrong http://paste.ubuntu.com/987758/
[11:59] <yofel> CMakeFiles/kopete_qq.dir/evautil.o: In function `memset':
[11:59] <yofel> /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/bits/string3.h:82: warning: memset used with constant zero length parameter; this could be due to transposed parameters
[11:59] <yofel> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
[11:59] <yofel> make[2]: *** [lib/kopete_qq.so] Error 1
[12:40] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kanagram] Philip Muškovac * 26 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[12:41] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer] Philip Muškovac * 33 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[12:44] <apachelogger> yofel: why, it appears one of the params is nil though it is not supposed to be :P
[12:47] <yofel> well, there are 4 memset calls in that file, and the only parameter that's actually '0', is the byte that's being inserted.
[12:47] <apachelogger> that is only a warning though
[12:47] <yofel> well
[12:47] <yofel> ld still fails
[12:47] <apachelogger>                 memset( plain+1, rand()& 0xff, pos++ );
[12:47] <apachelogger> pos++ apparently can evaluate to 0
[12:48] <yofel> and just how (looking at the code above) should pos end up being -1 ?
[12:48] <apachelogger> no clue
[12:49] <yofel> or it's warning about the possibility and fails on that o.O
[12:49] <yofel> stupid gcc
[12:49] <apachelogger> ok, again
[12:49] <apachelogger> this is a warning
[12:50] <yofel> that's still the point where it fails. So if the warning isn't the issue, there's no error at all
[12:50] <yofel> I built with -j1 to make sure
[12:51] <yofel> if this would make sense I wouldn't be confused ^^
[12:54] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kgamma] Philip Muškovac * 23 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[12:55] <apachelogger> yofel: the log is not from -j1
[12:55] <apachelogger> make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[12:57] <yofel> no, that log isn't, that was the general pbuilder log with -j12. I later built with -j1 to make sure that's actually the point it fails on as it didn't make sense
[12:57] <yofel> I can get you a log from -j1 if you want
[12:58] <apachelogger> yofel: please
[12:58] <apachelogger> however you might have to put ld into verbose mode ... from the j12 log it is not at all clear what causes the failure
[12:59] <yofel> how?
[13:00] <apachelogger> no clue
[13:00] <apachelogger> see if cmake has a var for that
[13:00] <apachelogger> you could probably just change the cmake linker cmd to ld -verbose
[13:01] <yofel> CMAKE_VERBOSE_MAKEFILE is already set, maybe I could build with -Wl,--verbose
[13:07] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/khangman] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[13:30] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kwordquiz] Philip Muškovac * 24 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[13:39] <agateau> yofel: note that pos++ evaluates to 0 if pos is 0
[13:39] <yofel> *headdesk*
[13:39] <yofel> right
[13:46] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kdegraphics-mobipocket] Philip Muškovac * 36 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[13:50] <agateau> yofel: still it's weird: it's just a warning, and there are other warnings when building qq support: it may not be the reason ld fails
[13:50] <yofel> here's the build with ld --verbose http://paste.ubuntu.com/992368/
[13:52] <yofel> agateau: actually, "-Wl,--fatal-warnings" sounds like a good reason to fail on that...
[13:53]  * yofel tries to find out where that comes from
[13:53] <agateau> yofel: oh right
[14:02] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/parley] Philip Muškovac * 35 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[14:14] <apol> can somebody help me with these errors? https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+recipe/cyberspace-muon-daily
[14:14] <apol> -.-
[14:19] <agateau> apol: upload log says you are trying to upload an older version: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/105340891/upload_3754291_log.txt
[14:21] <apol> yes, but it's not
[14:21] <apol> i mean, it's today's, it can be older
[14:21] <agateau> maybe somebody uploaded manually?
[14:22] <apol> i doubt it
[14:22] <yofel> well, the revision is lower than what's in the archive
[14:23] <apol> agateau: would it help to push some changes to git maybe
[14:23] <apol> ?
[14:23] <yofel> you might want to put {date} into the recipe package version somewhere
[14:24] <yofel> apol: that would mean pushing 106 commits so the bzr revno is high enough again
[14:24] <yofel> rather use date
[14:24] <agateau> apol: I did what yofel suggested for sal-qml
[14:24] <yofel> OR delete the PPA package
[14:24] <yofel> and wait for the janitor to purge all files
[14:24] <agateau> yofel: that won't help people who already have the package installed
[14:24] <yofel> good point
[14:24] <apol> ok
[14:25] <apol> I'll add date then
[14:25] <apol> yofel: http://paste.kde.org/480854 << like that?
[14:26] <yofel> rather use something like {debupstream}~{date}
[14:26] <yofel> er wait
[14:26] <yofel> rather use something like {debupstream}~{date}~{revno}-3
[14:27] <yofel> although yours would work too
[14:27] <yofel> ppa packages are native packages anyway
[14:28] <apol> ok
[14:28] <apol> changed
[14:28] <apol> we'll see what happens
[14:29] <yofel> apol: actually, use yours, mine would be too low I think
[14:29] <apol> ok
[14:30] <apol> https://code.launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+recipe/cyberspace-muon-daily
[14:36] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/jovie] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[14:54] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/ark] Philip Muškovac * 17 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[15:36] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kcalc] Philip Muškovac * 12 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[15:48] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kgpg] Philip Muškovac * 15 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[16:02] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kremotecontrol] Philip Muškovac * 13 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[16:06] <CIA-42> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kwallet] Philip Muškovac * 13 * debian/changelog releasing version 4:4.8.3-0ubuntu1
[16:59] <Mamarok> the KDE Quality team will do a beta testing week for KDE 4.9 from 1. to 6th of June, will Kubuntu have a beat read in the beta PPA? That would be awesome
[17:00] <Mamarok> beta*
[17:01] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: if we don't, there's always neon :)
[17:02] <shadeslayer> ( If this was a question about *just* testing KDE, packages are going to be a completely different beast altogether )
[17:02] <Mamarok> well, yes, but would be easier to have it in the beta PPA
[17:03] <shadeslayer> I'd be able to help package it, but only after the 4th
[17:03] <yofel> only if we get the 4.8.3 merging from debian done in a week
[17:03] <shadeslayer> heh, nope then :P
[17:04] <yofel> and I didn't  even manage to upload everything as kdenetwork doesn't build
[17:04] <shadeslayer> since yofel is the only one working on packaging right now
[17:04] <Mamarok> yofel: I was talking about packages for Precise, not Quantal
[17:04] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: doesn't matter, we need to merge from debian first in any case
[17:04] <shadeslayer> *then* the packages get backported to Precise
[17:04] <yofel> Mamarok: not much difference, we can't  start with 4.9 until we've merged with debian, which means merging 4.8.3
[17:04] <yofel> hm
[17:05] <yofel> we could maybe do both at the same time
[17:05] <Mamarok> hm, right, but Precise already has 4.8.3, no?
[17:05] <yofel> i.e. merge a package and update it to 4.9 right away
[17:05] <yofel> Mamarok: I mean merging our packaging with the packaging of the debian-qt-kde team
[17:06] <yofel> .3 is about the only time when our versions are in sync
[17:06] <yofel> so only chance
[17:06] <yofel> if we do the updating right away (maybe using a git snapshot), we have ~2 weeks for 4.9
[17:07] <yofel> today's final freeze, so shouldn't be too unreasonable
[17:07]  * yofel won't promise anything though
[17:07] <Mamarok> yofel: OK, could you please tell me once you know?
[17:09] <yofel> ask me again in a week.  I won't be there in the week from May 27th to June 2nd, so unless someone helps out I doubt we'll make Beta1 in time.
[17:10] <shadeslayer> yofel: have fun updating kdelibs and kde-runtime ( See packagers list for details if you haven't already )
[17:12] <yofel> shadeslayer: google and kolab? seen it. Doesn't make things easier :(
[17:12] <shadeslayer> yofel: hah! Nope. Nepomuk is moving out of runtime if I understand correctly
[17:12] <yofel> oh
[17:12] <yofel> "fun"
[17:12] <shadeslayer> To quote "@Packagers: We will not be maintaining binary compatibility in nepomuk-core. At least not for KDE 4.10. We still need to break a lot of things."
[17:13] <shadeslayer> 3 new packages for nepomuk
[17:13] <shadeslayer> and they'll have 2 different namespaces for the 4.9 release
[17:13] <shadeslayer> atleast that's what I've understood so far
[17:14] <yofel> shadeslayer: stop, please, at least let me sleep in peace until beta1 tagging
[17:14] <shadeslayer> :P
[17:14] <shadeslayer> yofel: no hurry, we can just tackle it after the 4th
[17:14] <yofel> yeah, I'll be back by then too
[17:15] <shadeslayer> I'll be *completely* free after the 4th .... No more uni/exams
[17:15] <shadeslayer> cya
[17:17] <Mamarok> yofel: so maybe not beta 1 but beta 2 in that case
[17:18] <yofel> I'm optimistic about beta2, but there's lots to do in the little time to beta1
[17:21] <Mamarok> OK, that would work as well
[20:44] <nixternal> ok, here is what I am witnessing re: kopete. I keep it minimized to system tray and when opened it opens in the right top corner of the screen. when i open it, minimize it, and open it again later, I noticed it creeped a bit to the left. the more i do this throughout the day, the more it creeps to the left
[20:44] <nixternal> anyone else notice that if they have it setup similar to me?
[20:45] <nixternal> it has never done this in all of the years i have used kopete. it is strange, but nothing worth figuring out i don't think
[22:05] <Daskreech> can somone ping me if Riddell turns up on the chan?
[22:14] <yofel> Daskreech: he said he's off for a few weeks, rather send him a mail
[22:16] <Daskreech> oh never mind then
[22:16] <Daskreech> Won't be timely


[19:11] <arosales> hello folks
[19:12] <arosales> if I want to use the gui with RC1 do I need to do a charm upgrade?
[19:12] <rick_h_> arosales: a juju upgrade-gui yes.
[19:12] <rick_h_> hatch: ^ the latest release is all rc1 friendly right?
[19:12] <hatch> arosales: with Juju 2 you do not need to use the GUI charm
[19:12] <rick_h_> arosales: https://github.com/juju/juju-gui/releases/download/2.1.13/jujugui-2.1.13.tar.bz2
[19:13] <hatch> you can simply download the latest dist and upgrade it from there
[19:13] <hatch> ^
[19:13] <rick_h_> arosales: download and juju upgrde-gui that file
[19:13] <arosales> rick_h_: thanks. I wasn't able to switch models
[19:13] <hatch> arosales: with the 2.1.13 release it should work properly for you - if not, we've got a new one coming tomorrow ;)
[19:13] <arosales> gotcha, and good to hear
[19:14] <hatch> arosales: after running `juju upgrade-gui /path/to/tar.bz2` then you can run `juju gui --show-credentials`
[19:14] <hatch> it'll open up a browser window and show you your u/p in the console
[19:15] <arosales> going to be showing your guys goodness here in NY ina bit
[19:15] <hatch> uh oh
[19:15] <hatch> :)
[19:15] <hatch> do us proud :D
[19:15]  * arosales will try
[19:15] <hatch> arosales: also if you have any issues with that, I can cut you a dist from the release branch for tomorrow which definitely works heh
[19:16] <arosales> ah much better
[19:16] <arosales> I can switch models now
[19:16] <hatch> great :)
[19:16] <arosales> good stuff
[19:17] <hatch> arosales: I'll be around for a while yet so if you run into any more issues just ping
[19:26] <arosales> hatch: rick_h_ thanks
[19:26] <hatch> anytime


[10:36] <pavlushka> walrider: hello walle
[10:49] <walrider> pavlushka: hlw
[10:50] <walrider> in mikrotik class atm pavlushka
[10:50] <walrider> pavlushka:
[10:50] <pavlushka> walrider: cool, ccna?
[10:50] <walrider> mikrotik
[10:50] <walrider> hotchpotchtik aswel
[10:51] <walrider> ☺
[10:51] <pavlushka> !!??
[10:51] <walrider> :P
[10:53] <pavlushka> walrider: mikrotik, that means some sort of networking class right?
[11:02] <walrider> yes just like ccna
[11:03] <pavlushka> walrider: got it, good
[11:03] <walrider> its another system u can make and manage networks
[11:03] <walrider> but
[11:03] <pavlushka> walrider: what network simulator you use, gns3?
[11:03] <walrider> unlike ccna u can use user interface to configure mikrotik router using winbox
[11:03] <walrider> aka shoytaner baskho
[11:04] <pavlushka> ha ha ha
[11:04] <walrider> gns3 is a bit difficult for us
[11:04] <pavlushka> walrider: so which one then?
[11:04] <walrider> we install the mikrotik iso into a blank pertition on a vmware
[11:04] <walrider> and connecting winbox with that allow us to configure
[11:04] <pavlushka> aha
[11:06] <pavlushka> walrider: is that mikrotik vm image is downloadable for free?
[11:06] <walrider> no
[11:06] <pavlushka> k
[11:06] <walrider> all router OS is free to download but licensing require money
[11:07] <walrider> u need to purchase the license to run it after trial 24 hours
[11:07] <walrider> purchase and install
[11:07] <walrider> the router os uses ur harddisk id
[11:07] <walrider> aka volumeid of harddisk where the os will be installed
[11:08] <walrider> and the funny thing is the router os is bassed on debian xD
[11:08] <walrider> file system should be ext4
[11:08] <walrider> so u know what i mean :D
[11:11] <pavlushka> walrider: all GNU/linux uses ext4 file system but debian is debian because it has the debian package manager called dpkg
[11:11] <walrider> yep
[11:12] <walrider> so if my hdd gets a crash
[11:12] <walrider> there should be a way i can rename the volume id and restore it
[11:12] <walrider> to
[11:12] <walrider> another hdd
[11:12] <walrider> how about that
[11:12] <pavlushka> and almost every router board has linux on it including a webserver and a dhcp server of course
[11:13] <pavlushka> walrider: that's clever
[11:13] <walrider> its tricky but possible
[11:13] <walrider> i dont dare manipulating volumeid editing on an ext4 filesystem
[11:14] <pavlushka> walrider: tunefs might be of some use in this case
[11:14] <walrider> there is a program volumeid.exe
[11:14] <walrider> for windows
[11:14] <walrider> i need to do some study
[11:14] <walrider> but
[11:15] <walrider> this is public chat i should not discuss this here
[11:16] <pavlushka> walrider: if you talk about some free software doing some trick, that's allowed but not pirated one
[11:16] <walrider> this is direct crime cause im talking some way where u dont wanna pay for premium service
[11:16] <pavlushka> walrider: though I have even asked for help on #ubuntu about some piracy on linux :p
[11:17] <walrider> hehe
[11:17] <pavlushka> walrider: and they got angry almost
[11:17] <pavlushka> walrider: it was so stupid of me, lol
[11:17] <walrider> :D
[11:22] <walrider> virtual p2p sucks
[11:23] <pavlushka> walrider: and one thing, using tune2fs, you can set a desired UUID to a volume like this "tune2fs -U "UUID" /dev/sd**"
[11:23] <walrider> and tunneling software dosnt allow port forwarding
[11:23] <pavlushka> walrider: aha
[11:24] <walrider> is that case
[11:24] <walrider> hamachi
[11:24] <pavlushka> walrider: tried that once for creating a gaming network
[11:25] <walrider> class ends
[11:25] <walrider> now gona go home
[11:25] <walrider> and play some game
[11:25] <walrider> gaem
[11:25] <walrider> xD
[11:25] <pavlushka> walrider: cool, see ya
[11:25] <walrider> cya


[05:30] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New binary: password-store [amd64] (jammy-proposed/universe) [1.7.4-2] (lubuntu)
 Emergency discourse updates going through shortly
 so discourse might be down for a bit
 👍 (re @teward001: Emergency discourse updates going through shortly)
 yeah gotta get the integration with OpenID done for mediawiki but then most probably.  I've got admin experience there.  not themeing experience but admin experiencw (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kgiii> LOL @teward, I told y'all Phab was dead like months ago. We were still on the other IRC server, I'm pretty sure. Would a self-hosted instance of MediaWiki do the trick? I understand that it's pretty extensible, but haven't played with it
 Same here. (re @teward001: yeah gotta get the integration with OpenID done for mediawiki but then most probably.  I've got admin experience there.  not themeing experience but admin experiencw)
 i also have custom role knowledge i.e. how to add custom positions heh
 Nice
 been a while but I THINK I remember how to do it xD
 but discourse is first
 Sounds good
[23:39] <teward> kgiii: you did tell me phab was dead.  except we were in the middle of a dev cycle so :P
[23:39] <teward> now we can focus on updating things.
[23:39] <teward> i'm thinking a gitlab for code and such and a mediawiki for the wiki stuff
[23:40] <teward> or gitlab cloud or just github xD
 I think gitea was in the mix too.
[23:41] <teward> gitea is lighter, but has no CI
[23:41] <teward> or actions integration
 Right.
 No shortage of options.
[23:42] <teward> so if we want to eventually destroy our Jenkins instance we can go Github or self hosted Gitlab.  if we want to keep that, gitea.
[23:42] <teward> yep
[23:42] <teward> we're also *technically* not in a huge rush, but sooner than later.
 I agree
 Issue tracking is a thing we need as well.
[23:43] <teward> we have basic issue tracking in gitea or gitlab, but if we want something that we can do full integration with git and NOT be tied to per-repo issues there's options out there too
[23:44] <teward> redmine, YouTrack (a JetBrains product), etc.
[23:44] <teward> lots of options there
 I agree.
 I don't think we need anything too involved.
 The basic stuff would probably do nicely


[14:23] <cjwatson> ev: Wubi r273 for your building pleasure
[14:29] <ev> cjwatson: on it now
[14:29] <cjwatson> Thanks


[09:03] <Pimmetje> tomreyn thx for your help. It seems my main issue was using .yml intead of .yaml. There maybe some other things i did wrong ill have to test it on my next debian box :)
[09:19] <tomreyn> Pimmetje: thanks for reporting back.