[00:00] <matrixhomie> any hackers here?
[00:00] <attilacyilmazlar> goofey: on ubuntu is raid1 or raid5 easier??
[00:00] <DarkriftX> no, the hackers all hang out in #hacjers
[00:00] <DarkriftX> no, the hackers all hang out in #hackers
[00:00] <attilacyilmazlar> goofey: to setup i mean?
[00:00] <goofey> attilacyilmazlar: should be about the same
[00:01] <attilacyilmazlar> goofey: thank you for answers :)
[00:02] <goofey> attilacyilmazlar: anytime
[00:04] <matrixhomie> but theres almost no hackers in #hackers
[00:04] <matrixhomie> do you know how i can get invited to #hacker
[00:04] <DarkriftX> lol
[00:05] <DarkriftX> dude, restructure your question. asking for a hacker makes no sense
[00:05] <DarkriftX> what is a hacker?
[00:06] <matrixhomie> im not going to respond to that
[00:06] <goofey> itsatrick: deleting the icon doesn;t work, because it's conflicting with the application that installed the icon, not the icon itself
[00:09] <bazhang> matrixhomie, its offtopic here
[00:11] <josh-l> I want to make a launch feedback that spins (rotates) instead of bounces... what do I need to learn specifically to be able to make this?
[00:13] <itsatrick> I also tried uninstalling kde4-icons-oxygen, but that would have uninstalled my entire system.
[00:13] <goofey> josh-l: I would guess that's written in C - the folks in #kde would probabably know that
[00:13] <josh-l> yeah the3y\\y apprently do not
[00:14] <goofey> josh-l: well, they wrote it, not the kubuntu folks (I think) - you could check out the kde CVS
[00:14] <goofey> itsatrick: which kde?  3 or 4?  And you installed it but it didn't install koffice?
[00:14] <josh-l> yeah im sure kde devs wrote and not kubuntu devs'
[00:16] <itsatrick> KDE 4.  Right.  I have KDE 4 installed, but Koffice isn't installed.
[00:17] <josh-l> so instaq
[00:17] <itsatrick> OO.org is buggy with plasmoids, so I don't want to do that.
[00:17] <josh-l> ll it
[00:18] <josh-l> i mean, install it
[00:18] <goofey> itsatrick: i'm booting jaunty to see if it came with koffice
[00:19] <josh-l> i dont get what the issue is, if its not installed, then install it
[00:19] <goofey> itsatrick: which version of kubuntu do you have?
[00:19] <goofey> josh-l: it's conflicting with something already installed
[00:20] <josh-l> what is it conflicting with?
[00:20] <itsatrick> Intrepid.
[00:20] <goofey> itsatrick:  is it kubuntu or ubuntu with kde installed?
[00:21] <josh-l> im pretty sure none of the releases come with koffice installed
[00:21] <itsatrick> koffice-data-kde4_1 is trying to override kde-icons-oxygen.
[00:21] <goofey> josh-l: yeah, I just found that out - jaunty comes with openoffice, not koffice
[00:22] <itsatrick> It's Ubuntu with KDE installed, but Gnome removed.
[00:22] <itsatrick> Jaunty is only in beta, right?
[00:22] <josh-l> try installing koffice anyways, then if necessary install kde-icons-oxygen after
[00:23] <goofey> itsatrick: jaunty is beta
[00:23] <bazhang> alpha5
[00:23] <DarkriftX> Can anyone help me figure out why my display settings will not persist past a reboot or x restart?
[00:23] <goofey> itsatrick: itsatrick I'm afraid i dn;t know how to solve your problem
[00:23] <goofey> itsatrick: er, don't
[00:24] <josh-l> its not going to cause any real issues if oxygen icons get uninnstalled
[00:24] <josh-l> and if yoyu want them just try installing after installing koffice
[00:24] <itsatrick> josh-l: Then how com I saw that a bunch of important pacakges would be uninstalled like libkde4 and such.
[00:24] <itsatrick> *come*
[00:25] <itsatrick> Does OxygenOffice work well in KDE4?
[00:26] <josh-l> okay then i dont know
[00:26] <goofey> itsatrick: i wonder if there's a way to in-install kde4-icons-oxygen without un-installing all the other packages?
[00:26] <goofey> itsatrick: an apt-get --ignore-depends flag maybe?
[00:29] <jmichaelx> recently, in kubuntu 8.10, using kde4.2, my screen starting locking after the monitor idles, requiring a password to unlock it. to my knowledge, i have never configured it to do this, and i cannot for the life of me figure out how to make it stop. i do NOT have 'lock screen on resume' selected in the settings. can anyone tell me how to fix this?
[00:32] <itsatrick> Sorry, --ingore-depends is not a valid flag.
[00:33] <lucax> hey guys, im on ubuntu intrepid i wanted to install kde 4.2, cant find the repositories or update... any ideas ?
[00:36] <jmichaelx> lucax: the instructions should be right on: http://www.kubuntu.org/
[00:37] <lucax> yeah but tehy say packages are on backports and i just did an update and im still with 4.1
[00:37] <bazhang> lucax, enable backports
[00:38] <bazhang> lucax, lets see your sources.list (guessing you updated them already once adding repo)
[00:38] <lucax> no problem for some reason there was the problem solve it thanks
[00:39] <bazhang> lucax, sudo apt-get update fixed it?
[00:40] <jmichaelx> can anyone tell me how to stop the screen from locking, and requesting a password to unlock it, whenever the PC has idled for a time?
[00:40] <jmichaelx> this is in kde4.2
[00:41] <bazhang> not some screensaver setting? this is in intrepid corrrect?
[00:42] <jmichaelx> yes, it is in intrepid...i am just using 'blank screen' for the screensaver, and see no lock screen setting there
[00:42] <bazhang> hmm let me check mine
[00:44] <NotForResale-US> can anyone help with a sata hdd?
[00:44] <bazhang> in system settings desktop  screensaver is require password to stop checked
[00:44] <bazhang> NotForResale-US, need an actual question
[00:45] <jmichaelx> bazhang, no, it is not checked
[00:48] <NotForResale-US> can i use a ide jumper to jump the 1.5gb speed limit on a sata drive
[00:49] <bazhang> NotForResale-US, this sounds like a question for ##hardware
[00:51] <bazhang> jmichaelx, not sure where else to look frankly; I am on 4.1 , dont know what systems settings control panel looks like in 4.2 (ie if it differs or not) could well be a bug
[00:56] <jmichaelx> ty bazhang, i have no idea what to do about this... pretty annoying
[00:57] <bazhang> jmichaelx, let me check launchpad
[00:59] <Wazmyn> in KDE4 I've found a couple of programs (Dragon Player, Kuickshow) that do not have any menus ith them - how do you go about editing preferences for apps like this?
[01:01] <jmichaelx> i have been wondering why in the world dragon player is even included....
[01:01] <bazhang> Wazmyn, best I can is dragonplayer has a menu that leads to the dragonplayer handbook; it is a very minimalist player from what I have tried
[01:01] <woonix> Wazmyn: What do you mean "editing preferences"? If you want to add a menu item, then use the menu editor.
[01:02] <Wazmyn> jmichaelx: well, kaffiein won't play the videos off of my camera and dragon player will
[01:02] <Wazmyn> bazhang: where is the menu that leads to the hand book?
[01:03] <bazhang> Wazmyn, far right menu, next to settings
[01:03] <Wazmyn> woonix: specifically in kuickview I wanted to change the keyboard short cuts - page up and down advance the picutres I want to use right and left
[01:03] <Wazmyn> bazhang: my window has nothing. It's just a floating picture window with the title bar at the top
[01:03] <jmichaelx> Wazmyn: interesting to hear. that is the first useful thing that i have heard about that dragon player could do
[01:03] <draik_> jmichaelx: I'm on 4.2 with a desktop and laptop. I don't have that issue and I don't mind going over configurations with you.
[01:04] <Wazmyn> jmichaelx: HA!
[01:04] <c0rrupted> anyone have anything interesting they would like to send me?
[01:04] <jmichaelx> hey draik_, what's up?
[01:04] <Wazmyn> c0rrupted: like what?
[01:05] <jmichaelx> draik_: yeah, if you have any idea why this screen locking business is going on and how to stop it, i'd be appreciative
[01:05] <c0rrupted> anything from porn to music to OS bootup iso's or anything really
[01:05] <draik_> jmichaelx: I may be able to help. What is going on with your Power Management in System Settings?
[01:05] <draik_> jmichaelx: BTW, is it on a desktop or laptop?
[01:07] <jmichaelx> draik_: i also have kubuntu 8.10 on a desktop and a laptop, but it is only the desktop that is requiring a password to unlock the screen after it has idled... i have no idea what i would have done to cause this to start, nor how to make it stop. i have been through all the setting i can think of.
[01:09] <Wazmyn> How do I get Dolphin to show previews of videos?
[01:10] <draik_> jmichaelx: I'm not sure where to begin other than Power Management settings for profile types.
[01:10] <jmichaelx> Wazmyn: i do not think that dolphin has that capability yet
[01:10] <jmichaelx> draik_: hmm, i think i have gone through all of that
[01:11] <Wazmyn> jmichaelx: it did in 3.5 - why would it lose it?
[01:11] <jmichaelx> Wazmyn: i was disappointed , too, but it did lose it. i imagine they will bring it back, but who knows when
[01:12]  * Wazmyn frowns
[01:12] <jmichaelx> Wazmyn: i have been using Thunar when i want to view folders with video previews
[01:12] <bazhang> c0rrupted, did you have a kubuntu support question?
[01:13] <c0rrupted> no i didnt
[01:13] <fatblackpumpn> hi
[01:13] <fatblackpumpn> why wont k3b burn mp3's ?
[01:13] <fatblackpumpn> i get "problems" when i drag and drop mp3s
[01:14] <tekteen> fatblackpumpn: are you making a data cd?
[01:14] <fatblackpumpn> nah, a music cd
[01:14] <bazhang> fatblackpumpn, it will
[01:14] <fatblackpumpn> ugh
[01:15] <fatblackpumpn> so there is no way in linux, to burn music ?
[01:15] <fatblackpumpn> i just wanna make a cd.
[01:15] <fatblackpumpn> to listen to in the car.
[01:15] <tekteen> fatblackpumpn: the issue is that it needs to decode mp3s
[01:15] <draik_> !w32codecs
[01:15] <fatblackpumpn> ugh.
[01:15] <fatblackpumpn> linux shit.
[01:15] <Wazmyn> jmichaelx: what is thunar?
[01:15] <fatblackpumpn> i installed w32codecs
[01:15] <jmichaelx> fatblackpumpn = troll?
[01:15] <bazhang> fatblackpumpn, stop with the language
[01:15] <c0rrupted> maybe if you learned to program you would realise everything in linux is OPENSOURCE so you can fix it yourself
[01:15] <fatblackpumpn> i installed w32codecs, how do i burn a cd ?
[01:15] <tekteen> fatblackpumpn: I believe there is a package for k3b mp3
[01:16] <fatblackpumpn> ok
[01:16] <draik_> jmichaelx: I agree and I am still looking into various things here and I can't get it to duplicate that type of thing.
[01:16] <tekteen> fatblackpumpn: sudo apt-get install libk3b2-mp3
[01:16] <tekteen> fatblackpumpn: then it should work
[01:16] <jmichaelx> Wazmyn: thunar is the default file manager in xfce... but i use it a lot in KDE, particularly ofr video previews, likw you mentioned
[01:16] <fatblackpumpn> libk3b2-extracodecs  ?
[01:16] <fatblackpumpn> oh ok
[01:16] <fatblackpumpn> thanx
[01:16] <Wazmyn> I've never had a problem burning mp3s with k3b
[01:17] <draik_> dito
[01:17] <jmichaelx> draik_: oh well, i'll just keep poking around until i figure something out
[01:17] <draik_> *ditto
[01:17] <tekteen> Wazmyn: I have :-)
[01:17] <fatblackpumpn> E: Package libk3b2-mp3 has no installation candidate
[01:17] <draik_> AHA!
[01:18] <DarkriftX> is there any way to tell when the last dist-upgrade happened? i went to sleep one day with 7.10 and woke up the next with 8.04 and want to see if ive rebooted since (im sure i have but just to be sure)
[01:18] <draik_> jmichaelx: I think I may have it...
[01:18] <fatblackpumpn> whats to add do sources.list to get libk3b2-mp3   ?
[01:18] <tekteen> libk3b3-extracodecs
[01:18] <jmichaelx> draik_: fire away
[01:18] <tekteen> try libk3b3-extracodecs
[01:18] <fatblackpumpn> ok
[01:18] <draik_> jmichaelx: Power Management > General Settings > Lock screen on resume
[01:18] <MagicDuck> is there a way to make keyboard shortcuts work in kde4 (for example k-menu shortcut, run command, etc) with compiz enabled?
[01:18] <draik_> Make sure it isn't checked
[01:18]  * draik_ hopes that's the answser.
[01:19] <fatblackpumpn> yay! it's working, thanx fellaz.
[01:19] <jmichaelx> draik_: unfortunately, i was there , and made sure that one was not checked
[01:20] <draik> jmichaelx: How about checking, save, uncheck, save?
[01:20] <draik> Sounds funny, I know, but it works for me that way some times.
[01:21] <jmichaelx> draik: i know what you mean, i have seen deals where that sort of thing has worked when nothing else did... i'll give a while here in a bit
[01:21] <jmichaelx> i'll give it a whirl*
[01:21] <draik> jmichaelx: Cool.
[01:21] <draik> :)
[01:24] <cristian> hey ripio
[01:24] <cristian> ripio
[01:24] <cristian> jotoso
[01:25] <jishi> T_T
[01:25] <cristian> tt
[01:27] <bazhang> !hi | cristian
[01:28] <fatblackpumpn> what kind of name is cristian?
[01:28] <fatblackpumpn> what are you religious or something?
[01:28] <bazhang> !ot > fatblackpumpn
[01:28] <fatblackpumpn> oh sorry
[01:29] <tekteen> fatblackpumpn: I am not sure if that was supposed to be humor, but it does not translate well on irc
[01:29] <fatblackpumpn> does the software that is in kubuntus repos more state of the art or "recent" (as in newer), than in gentoo's ?
[01:29] <fatblackpumpn> gentoo doesent seem to be cutting edge anymore.
[01:30] <bazhang> fatblackpumpn, this is support; chat in #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:30] <fatblackpumpn> it's a simple question.
[01:30] <bazhang> its offtopic.
[01:30] <fatblackpumpn> i have seen way more off topic stuff in here than that.
[01:31] <fatblackpumpn> how is it off topic. i said the word kubuntu
[01:31] <jmichaelx> fatblackpumpn = troll?
[01:31] <bazhang> yep
[01:31] <fatblackpumpn> nope
[01:31] <fatblackpumpn> just asking a simple question.
[01:31] <fatblackpumpn> oh well
[01:31] <matrixhomie> anyone want to trade stuff?
[01:31] <bazhang> matrixhomie, not here; this is not a warez channel
[01:31] <bazhang> matrixhomie, this was pointed out to you earlier
[01:32] <LjL> fatblackpumpn: you're currently muted, they won't hear you. i'd like you to read the factoids i've had ubottu send you first.
[01:33] <LjL> !etiquette > matrixhomie    (matrixhomie, see the private message from ubottu) | how about you do the same
[01:37] <fatblackpumpn> ok i have a question, since you guys like to support.
[01:37] <fatblackpumpn> when i ran kde 3.5 the pager had the windows icons on the "virtual desktop"
[01:37] <fatblackpumpn> now they dont
[01:37] <fatblackpumpn> running intrepid
[01:37] <fatblackpumpn> i.e.  if firefox was in the foreground for that "virtual desktop"  the window on that pagers virtual desktop would have the firefox logo.
[01:38] <fatblackpumpn> i found that to be convenient
[01:40] <bazhang> you want icons to click on the desktop?
[01:42] <fatblackpumpn> no not the desktop itself.  the pager
[01:43] <fatblackpumpn> i have 9 "virtual desktops" on my pager.
[01:43] <Wazmyn> fatblackpumpn: i think i'd chalk that up to "stuff that hasn't got implimented in kde4 yet"
[01:43] <fatblackpumpn> ahh theres a check box for that.
[01:43] <fatblackpumpn> thanx
[01:43] <Wazmyn> ok, nevermind
[01:43] <fatblackpumpn> pager settings
[01:43] <fatblackpumpn> window icons
[01:44] <fatblackpumpn> now to bind key strokes to toggle between desktops
[01:45] <Wazmyn> fatblackpumpn: ctr+F1, crt+F2....
[01:46] <fatblackpumpn> Wazmyn: is there a way to change those.  id like to reassing the defaults to ctrl alt arrow
[01:46] <fatblackpumpn> reassign
[01:46] <Wazmyn> it'd be under system_settings
[01:47] <fatblackpumpn> Wazmyn: yeah, im uder key board and mouse > key board short cuts, the only short cuts are for KMix
[01:47] <fatblackpumpn> oh i have to select it,
[01:47] <fatblackpumpn> but i still dont see the pager under the drop down
[01:47] <Wazmyn> yeah, i went though that was well fatblackpumpn
[01:47] <fatblackpumpn> oh they call the the plasma workspace
[01:48] <Wazmyn> that' won't be under the pager
[01:48] <MagicDuck> is there a kde4 equivalent to "dcop kicker kicker popupKMenu 0"
[01:48] <MagicDuck> ?
[01:48] <fatblackpumpn> nm plasma workspace is not the pager
[01:48] <GWild> I just installed a new version of 'linux-generic' - how do I install it for use?
[01:49] <Wazmyn> MagicDuck: whta did that do?
[01:49] <GWild> it's not in /boot....
[01:49] <fatblackpumpn> pager is not under the list of kde componets under system settings's keyboard and mouse
[01:49] <LjL> GWild: it should be. what did you install, exactly?
[01:50] <Wazmyn> fatblackpumpn: the shortcuts for desktops won't be in the pager - it'll be part of the global shortcuts or something
[01:50] <fatblackpumpn> global shortcuts?
[01:50] <fatblackpumpn> where are those?
[01:50] <draik> jmichaelx: Any luck?
[01:50] <GWild> LjL: linux-generic in adept
[01:50] <Wazmyn> fatblackpumpn: found it, it's under kwin
[01:51] <LjL> GWild: and how would it be a new version? or did you mean *upgrade* it?
[01:51] <fatblackpumpn> Wazmyn: thanx pal.
[01:52] <GWild> LjL: actually upgrade yes.  I'm trying to upgrade past 27-7 to avoid my chronic BusyBox boot error
[01:52] <jmichaelx> draik: i've not yet been able to check... i am slowly trying to get an email written to my gf, which cost me dearly, if it doesn't get sent off fairly soon, lol
[01:52] <MagicDuck> Wazym: it shows the K menu, I am using compiz so I wanna keybind it
[01:52] <jmichaelx> which will*
[01:53] <LjL> GWild: you do realize that the linux-generic package itself doesn't contain anything, and that what really gets upgraded (usually automatically - what i don't get here is what you've done manually) is linux-image-whatever?
[01:53] <draik> jmichaelx: Brave man to be doing something that grave at the last minute.
[01:54] <Wazmyn> MagicDuck: oh. sorry I can't help ya there if you're uisng compiz. And if you want names to be highlighted, you need use the full nick
[01:55] <jmichaelx> draik: some call it bravery, others call it 'dancing with suicide'
[01:55] <GWild> LjL: I'm probably not being clear - I'm from Gentoo and have never used a distro which was 'automatic'
[01:55] <jmichaelx> well, homicide, in this case... sorry for the OT
[01:55] <draik> jmichaelx: castration, really.
[01:55] <Dr_willis_AAO> been testing out ArchLinux here lately :)
[01:55] <jmichaelx> most likely, lol
[01:56] <LjL> GWild: ok how about you type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:56] <draik> Dr_willis_AAO: Oh yeah? How is it?
[01:56] <GWild> LjL: ok, I'll do that
[01:57] <GWild> LjL: dist-upgrade = 'uprade the installed distro'?
[01:58] <LjL> GWild: yes, to the latest versions of packages. you should do that regularly (except that you don't really have to because when there are updates, an icon shows up, and when you click on it, they get installed)
[01:58] <LjL> which is what i don't understand to begin with
[01:58] <LjL> you should be on the latest available kernel version *by default*, without doing anything but clicking on the auto-updates icon
[01:59] <GWild> that would splain it - I'm still reading/learning so I have not done that since I was not sure what it would do
[01:59] <GWild> skittish after Gentoo which could easily 'break'
[02:00] <Wazmyn> GWild: within reason, updates here should not break things - they're tested before they go in the repos
[02:00] <Wazmyn> GWild: there are always exceptions, but in general, that's the case
[02:01] <GWild> Wazmyn: Sounds good - a good reason to switch distros.....  I appreciate the info
[02:04] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[02:12] <stealth-> ugh. Im trying to log into my kubuntu machine remotely through vnc, but the kde desktop sharing program asks my connecting client for a password, and I dont know what it is :|. Any help?
[02:13] <Libertarian4life> Okay, is it better to use xrender or OpenGL with Linux, with KDE, etc?
[02:14] <tekteen> !vnc
[02:14] <tekteen> I am sure the bot knows the default vnc password
[02:15] <tekteen> !ubottu
[02:15] <draik_> !botsnack
[02:15] <Libertarian4life> !botfart
[02:15] <tekteen> !anything
[02:15] <tekteen> it is on to me
[02:16] <Libertarian4life> !botisopenglorxrenderbetteronlinux
[02:16] <Libertarian4life> !smoke
[02:16] <tekteen> !poll
[02:17] <Libertarian4life> !slap
[02:17] <Libertarian4life> !botslap
[02:17] <Libertarian4life> !openGL
[02:17] <tekteen> this is very !ot, but then again, no one here needs help
[02:18] <Libertarian4life> well is xrender or open GL better for linux.. or which is more geared to use linux to its potential
[02:19] <tekteen> Libertarian4life: first of all, I like your name. Second, GL also works on other platforms
[02:20] <tekteen> why not use the one that may one day have some comercial application?
[02:20] <tekteen> anything you learn to do on linux you should try to make applicable to windows
[02:20]  * tekteen is not trying to start a flame war
[02:23] <Libertarian4life> 1) thank you :P  2) yea, but is is linux able to use one better over the other?
[02:23] <Guest4289> is the http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdepim/ktimetracker_4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid3~ppa1_i386.deb site down
[02:25] <Guest4289> cant seem to ping it
[02:26] <Proji> hi
[02:27] <tekteen> hi
[02:39] <Samuel-NotAFK> FFS why is the KDE4 version in 8.10 so poopo?
[02:39] <Guest81597> is there a manual for this IRC client?
[02:39] <Samuel-NotAFK> Guest81597: What IRC client?
[02:39] <Guest81597> this one...
[02:39] <ArkoldThos> someone having problems with kopete
[02:39] <Samuel-NotAFK> man kopete
[02:39] <Guest81597> Yeah
[02:40] <Guest81597> well this is an IRC client is it not
[02:40] <Guest81597> ?
[02:40] <Samuel-NotAFK> Guest81597: You're using Konversation
[02:40] <Samuel-NotAFK> (03:03:22) Guest81597: (notice) Received CTCP 'VERSION Konversation 1.0.1 (C) 2002-2006 by the Konversation team' (to Samuel-NotAFK) from Guest81597
[02:40] <Guest81597> but i am having problems with kopete too :)
[02:41] <ArkoldThos> Guest81597: wlm?
[02:41] <Guest81597> wlm?
[02:41]  * Samuel-NotAFK is listening to The B52's - Love shack
[02:41] <Samuel-NotAFK> WINDOWS LIVE SHITTTT MESSENGER
[02:41] <Samuel-NotAFK> oops caps
[02:42] <Guest81597> FYI, i am more of a Windows Vista person so this Kubuntu thing is kinda new to me, although i LOVE some of its features
[02:42] <Guest81597> and i do not think there is a reason to swear...
[02:42] <ArkoldThos> problems using WLM protocol on kopete <.<
[02:42] <Guest81597> Yes i am
[02:42] <Guest81597> it crashes when it tries to connect
[02:42] <Guest81597> is that common
[02:43] <ArkoldThos> first try?
[02:43] <Guest81597> since you semed to know what is was right away
[02:43] <Guest81597> yes
[02:43] <ArkoldThos> no clue >.<
[02:43] <ArkoldThos> here just doesnt connect
[02:43] <ArkoldThos> if i am with other client it go out of msn due to another client trying to join
[02:43] <Samuel-NotAFK> Guest81597: There is always reason to swear.
[02:43] <ArkoldThos> and if i put a bad password it return errors
[02:44] <ArkoldThos> but if i put it right, it just stays on connecting forever
[02:44] <Guest81597> let me try again
[02:46] <Guest81597> crashed... twice
[03:03] <Guest41836> I need some help with kopete...
[03:05] <adam_> Can I get some help with kopete?
[03:06] <Guest27054> love the immediate response....
[03:07] <Guest27054> hmm 296 people and no one knows anything... see you later (you never leave)...
[03:09] <jeff__> Im having problems installing Mozilla.  I go to the site, down load it, but im unable to install it (it opens with ark, but doesnt install, just shows files)
[03:10] <jeff__> any ideas on how to fix it?
[03:13] <marcelo> ¿¿¿¿¿
[03:27] <PodeCoet> Is it possible to give a network card two IP addresses in Kubuntu?
[03:27] <PodeCoet> I need to access a different network (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[03:29] <Samuel-NotAFK> I'm looking forward to 9.04
[03:29] <Samuel-NotAFK> 8.10 and 8.04 had shit support for my EeePC
[03:29] <Samuel-NotAFK> Debian has poor support
[03:30] <Samuel-NotAFK> Hopefully 9.04 will fully support my EeePC
[03:30] <Samuel-NotAFK> I'm looking forward to KDE4 too
[03:30] <Samuel-NotAFK> I hope I can find my USB drive.
[03:30] <Samuel-NotAFK> FFS it's a really good 8GB one too
[03:30] <noren> hi
[03:30] <Samuel-NotAFK> I'll look for it tomorrow.
[03:30] <Samuel-NotAFK> bye
[03:31] <noren> is DaSkreech still here
[03:32] <silentContender> Can someone help me with a corrupt login?
[03:35] <kurumin> oi
[03:35] <Paulo> oi
[03:38] <PodeCoet> oi
[03:38] <PodeCoet> :(
[03:38]  * PodeCoet fucks off appropriately
[03:49] <silentContender> The auth.log does not log my activity, ideas why?
[03:59] <serrano> hi
[04:08] <Adam_Tech> Who here could help me with the Adept Manager?
[04:10] <Adam_Tech> umm Hello??
[04:10] <Adam_Tech> I also need help with Konqueror
[04:11] <lhd_> dklsajf
[04:11] <lhd_> any body
[04:11] <Adam_Tech> lol like noone is here
[04:11] <lhd_> great
[04:12] <Adam_Tech> even though there must be over 250 people here, no one is listening
[04:12] <Adam_Tech> :\
[04:12] <sperlo> what is your problem with knokor?
[04:12] <ubuntu__> Hello all I have a question concerning adept
[04:12] <Adam_Tech> Me too
[04:12] <ubuntu__> I get this error msg
[04:12] <sperlo> konquer
[04:12] <ubuntu__> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0059' near line 1:
[04:12] <ubuntu__>  EOF after field name `'
[04:12] <Adam_Tech> I need more help with adept
[04:12] <Adam_Tech> than konqueror
[04:13] <Adam_Tech> adept always will (BREAK) when i request install
[04:13] <Adam_Tech> on like 98% everything i want to install, and the ones that show no error, fail when i try to apply changes
[04:16] <Adam_Tech> can you help?
[04:23] <Adam_Tech> #runescape
[04:23] <Adam_Tech> dang  it
[04:26] <inteliwasp> so, i managed to score a second video card and have an extra monitor around... and to no surprise, after installing the nvidia drivers, xorg did not like the setup, said no screens, can someone point me to a nice guide to resetup xorg with 2 cards and 2 monitors?
[04:32] <inteliwasp> anyone?
[04:34] <inteliwasp> !xorg
[04:34] <Adam_Tech> can someone help me with adept??
[04:35] <inteliwasp> what is your question?
[04:37] <Adam_Tech> ok, When I go to request install, it will say (BREAK) install in red, and when it is green and says install, it says it broke when i try to apply changes
[04:38] <inteliwasp> the new pakages you are trying to install do not like the programs already on your system
[04:38] <inteliwasp> what says break?
[04:38] <Adam_Tech> firefox 3.0
[04:38] <Adam_Tech> thats the only big one i really want
[04:39] <inteliwasp> what are you trying to install?
[04:40] <Adam_Tech> firefox 3.0
[04:41] <inteliwasp> do you have firefox 2.x already on the system?
[04:42] <Adam_Tech> no
[04:42] <Adam_Tech> only konquer
[04:43] <inteliwasp> those 2 shuld not have a problem....
[04:43] <inteliwasp> what if toy tried to use the command line?
[04:43] <inteliwasp> tried*
[04:44] <Adam_Tech> i have read about using sudo adept --configure -a
[04:44] <Adam_Tech> but nothing happened
[04:44] <Adam_Tech> and yea i tried the terminal
[04:44] <Adam_Tech> but it didn't work
[04:46] <Adam_Tech> whats the name of the firefox "thing" to use apt-get?
[04:47] <inteliwasp> try this without the quotes: "sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0"
[04:49] <tanjir> which one "sudo apt-get install firefox" installs?
[04:49] <Adam_Tech> failure
[04:49] <Adam_Tech> how do i post large amounts of text?
[04:49] <tanjir> try sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:49] <inteliwasp> pastebin
[04:49] <tanjir> pastebin.com
[04:49] <tanjir> does it say connection failure?
[04:49] <inteliwasp> start with the line you entered
[04:50] <Adam_Tech> http://pastebin.com/d46ca13c3
[04:50] <Adam_Tech> no
[04:50] <Adam_Tech> not a conet fail
[04:51] <tanjir> try sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:52] <inteliwasp> no
[04:52] <tanjir> and let us know if u still get the same error msg or not success
[04:52] <inteliwasp> he needs to update his system
[04:52] <tanjir> ohh
[04:52] <tanjir> sudo apt-get update
[04:53] <inteliwasp> then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[04:54] <Adam_Tech> it says 0 on everything
[04:54] <Adam_Tech> removed, installed etc....
[04:54] <inteliwasp> er...
[04:54] <tanjir> inteliwasp: will you recommend him to remove xulrunner?
[04:55] <inteliwasp> run: "sudo apt-get install xulrunner-1.9
[04:55] <Adam_Tech> has multiple unmet dependencie
[04:56] <inteliwasp> ah, the annoying dependency hell
[04:56] <Adam_Tech> http://pastebin.com/d592b808a
[04:57]  * inteliwasp fires up google...
[04:57] <Adam_Tech> lol
[04:59] <inteliwasp> looks to me that it wants the gnome pakages installed...
[05:00] <Adam_Tech> that means..? lol sorry, i'm am a MAJOR windows Vista/XP user, not so much linux/kubuntu
[05:00] <inteliwasp> tanjir, would you agree?
[05:00] <inteliwasp> give me a few... i am on a live cd... slow as as can be...
[05:00] <tanjir> i installed firefox 3 by using simple sudo apt-get install firefox
[05:01] <tanjir> on kubuntu
[05:01] <Adam_Tech> just tried... let me get link on pastebin
[05:02] <Adam_Tech> http://pastebin.com/d3f14f96d
[05:04] <inteliwasp> Adam_Tech, what version are you running?
[05:06] <Adam_Tech> inteliwasp, today's... 8.1 or something? I just upgraded today...
[05:06] <tanjir> 8.10?
[05:06] <tanjir> did you change the sources?
[05:06] <Adam_Tech> yea
[05:06] <Adam_Tech> universe
[05:07] <Adam_Tech> hey, i just got this system eror
[05:07] <Adam_Tech> it  says fatal error....
[05:07] <kuaera_> Oh, that's bad.
[05:07] <tanjir> lol... hell yah it is bad :P
[05:08] <pgreptom> Hey, I'm on 8.10.. I did the most recent dist-upgrade, and now some of the widgets I was using aren't working, like "NowPlaying" "LCD Weather" which were all included with the previous version.  Any ideas?  They just said "Could not find requested component: nowplaying"
[05:08] <kuaera_> Deadpan is funny. Moving on.
[05:09] <tanjir> pgreptom: you moved to kde 4.2?
[05:09] <inteliwasp> Adam_Tech, it may make life a bit easyer if you reinstalled 8.10 from scratch...
[05:09] <tanjir> the plasmoids from 4.1 does not work in 4.2 according to kubuntu website
[05:09] <pgreptom> Ah.
[05:09] <pgreptom> >:/
[05:10] <pgreptom> was really enjoying the amarok plugin.. oh well, hard to go backwards
[05:10] <tanjir> pgreptom: let me give u the fix
[05:10] <tanjir> 1 sec
[05:10] <pgreptom> oh sweet :)
[05:10]  * inteliwasp will be back in a bit(10 mins or so)
[05:11] <tanjir> follow this page: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[05:11] <tanjir> there is instruction for 8.10
[05:11] <tanjir> still i m not sure if ur fav plasmoids will work :P
[05:13] <tanjir> Adam_Tech: any update?
[05:16] <chairman> does anyone know about kubuntu 10.10
[05:33] <tanjir> chalcedony: 10.10 or 8.10?
[05:33] <tanjir> 9.04 will release on december
[05:34] <tanjir> sorry,... chairman
[05:34] <tanjir> lol
[05:46] <communityplumbin> hello everyone
[05:47] <tanjir> hello communityplumbin
[05:47] <communityplumbin> HI HOW RU
[05:48] <tanjir> good good
[05:48] <communityplumbin> awesome im in montana you?
[05:48] <tanjir> me from ottawa
[05:48] <tanjir> is it cold in montana?
[05:49] <communityplumbin> very cold today more snow
[05:49] <tanjir> itz spring here... :D
[05:49] <communityplumbin> yeppers is will be soon here to cant wait
[05:50] <tanjir> lol... good luck
[05:50] <tanjir> e'thing good with ur kubuntu? :P
[05:50] <communityplumbin> have seen the ultimate 2.1 program?
[05:50] <tanjir> i heard of it... did u try?
[05:50] <communityplumbin> that is what im useing
[05:51] <tanjir> nice... does it come with kde by default?
[05:51] <communityplumbin> it is great now im building the gamers on a different flashdrive
[05:51] <communityplumbin> its actually kubunta
[05:51] <communityplumbin> but very tweaked
[05:52] <communityplumbin> type in your search engine ultimate 2.1
[05:53] <communityplumbin> hello DR.
[05:54] <Dr_willis> Howdies
[05:54] <communityplumbin> hows ru tonight
[05:54] <Dr_willis> got to get back on 3rd shioft schedule
[05:54] <communityplumbin> well keep em well
[05:54] <Dr_willis> so i basicially have to shift my sleeping by 12 hrs.
[05:54] <communityplumbin> ouch
[05:55] <Dr_willis> Hmm DST kicked in today also...
[05:55] <Dr_willis> so is it really 1:00 AM now.. or are all my clocks wrong
[05:55] <communityplumbin> wow very sad
[05:55] <communityplumbin> 1055 montana time
[05:56] <Dr_willis> I had a PC once.. every time it rebooted.. it shifted the clock an hr for DST..  so it did it like 4 times in one day off by 4 hrs. :)
[05:56] <communityplumbin> well ur better off now
[05:57] <communityplumbin> auto update time
[05:57] <communityplumbin> hi jontec
[05:58] <Dr_willis> aha - it is 1AM...  :) the effect dont happen untill 2 am. :)
[05:58] <jontec> communityplumbin: hola?
[05:58] <communityplumbin> whats going on tonight
[05:59] <Dr_willis> Daylight saveing time! :)  its going to be a party!
[05:59] <communityplumbin>  I think the doc is on drugs
[05:59] <communityplumbin> hey doc what did ya prescribe yourself?
[06:01] <communityplumbin> hey jontec ur in washington
[06:01] <communityplumbin> DC OR BY OREGON
[06:02] <jontec> communityplumbin: nope, it's probably one of the points from which my dial-up access gets routed
[06:02] <jontec> communityplumbin: I live in *southern* VA
[06:03] <communityplumbin> ¥ok  i seen the dial up it said washington must be ur service
[06:04] <communityplumbin> way down south in virginia
[06:05] <communityplumbin> so ru useing 8.2 kubuntu
[06:05] <jontec> si. no cable here, only DirecTV/Dish
[06:05] <communityplumbin> I see
[06:06] <communityplumbin> have you checked out ultimate 2.0 yet
[06:06] <jontec> 8.10
[06:07] <communityplumbin> I see so there is no hi speed internet available
[06:08] <DarkriftX> any xorg/nvidia-settings experts here?
[06:08] <jontec> right, none to speak of, really
[06:08] <DarkriftX> i cant get my settings to persist past x restarting
[06:09] <communityplumbin> you can get drivers on the ultimate website for all video cards
[06:10] <communityplumbin> probally on planet kde also
[06:11] <communityplumbin> jontec chek out the ultimate website
[06:12] <jontec> why?
[06:12] <communityplumbin> http://ultimateedition.info/ultimate-edition-21/
[06:13] <jontec> again, I say, why? If you're talking about ubuntu ultimate... that's bloatware. I only need my linux install for Ruby on Rails development
[06:13] <noren> !opera
[06:14] <communityplumbin> http://repoubuntusoftware.info/
[06:15] <communityplumbin> http://home.paulschou.com/pub/ultimate/
[06:15] <communityplumbin> you will like it
[06:16] <jontec> I've seen it before... that's why I am commenting on it
[06:17] <communityplumbin> ok well the 2.0 is built will all the features of 8.10 but has alot more special features
[06:17] <communityplumbin> The newest is 2.1
[06:26] <yao_ziyuan> i have installed both ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-deskop and work in kde4. i have removed kpackagekit/packagekit and adept. i set synaptic to automatically check for updates daily. will it work?
[06:27] <Dr_willis> 'featuers as in' - what? last i looked their features were that they installed every package   they could fit.
[06:28] <yao_ziyuan> will synaptic or update-manager automatically show an update tray icon when there's updates?
[06:29] <Dr_willis> supposed to at least. :)
[06:44] <noren> Dr_willis: hi
[06:45] <noren> from where can i download the laatest packages frommmm the net.. i dont want to download all the packages all the time if my system crashes and i have to go for a fresh install
[06:46] <Dr_willis> once you install them.. backup your /var/cache/apt directory
[06:46] <Dr_willis> is one way to do it
[06:48] <noren> like my system  crashed ealier, got a fresh install  and now i am updating the kubuntu 8.10 and want to finally get to kde4.2
[06:48] <Dr_willis> all thje packages you install/download are saved in /var/cache/apt  (or was it /var/apt/cache?)
[06:49] <Dr_willis> that directory can have out of date file however if  somthing gets updated after youve installed it.
[06:49] <Dr_willis> and it can get auto-cleaned out also at times
[06:50] <noren> so when is the best time to back it up before it gets auto cleaned
[06:50] <noren> i did that last time but still i have to download more than 250 MB after this frresh install
[06:50] <Dr_willis> when you got your stuff installed.. :)
[06:51] <Dr_willis> things get updated constantly.. so backup/rsync siomewhere I guess..
[06:51] <Dr_willis> or set up a different machien to be a apt caching proxy
[06:53] <noren> ok
[07:14] <SandGorgon> guys... i installed kubuntu using minimal-cd for a customized install - no games, gimp.etc. - now i want to replicate the same system on another computer. Can I create a install-cd or something ?
[07:16] <zorglu_> q. i run kubuntu and would like to have firefox as default browser, where should i look ?
[07:19] <Act1> приветствую
[07:22] <Act1> вопрос как вернуть таск бар?) я недавно начал просто знакомится с юникс системами =) в кде (кубунта)
[07:23] <zorglu_> !ru
[07:24] <PhrkOnLsh> hey guys, just installed kubuntu 8.04 on parents' desktop, tried to enable 3d effects on an NVIDIA GeForce 5200... failed miserably a few times (the hardware drivers dialog tried to install nvidia-glx-new which isn't compatible)
[07:24] <PhrkOnLsh> now I have working NVIDIA driver loading (I see the nvidia logo on x startup) but I have no xgl according to compiz...
[07:24] <PhrkOnLsh> how can I alleviate this?
[07:30] <Act1> have a trouble, cant reboot, system wrrite "[...] Restarting system" but pc not rebot, found few tips at google, acpi = off and pci = noacpi, but with this params kubunta dont loading, just after booting
[07:33] <PhrkOnLsh> installing xserver-xgl helps, perhaps in my case :D -- maybe that should be a dependancy?
[07:35] <noren_> !norton-ghost
[07:36] <Act1> .
[07:41] <Act1> hello, have a trouble, cant reboot, system wrrite "[...] Restarting system" but pc not rebot, found few tips at google, acpi = off and pci = noacpi, but with this params kubunta dont loading, just after booting
[07:58] <tanjir> Act1: type "sudo reboot"
[08:00] <Act1> i try, no effect
[08:00] <Act1> and shutdown -r now too
[08:03] <tanjir> Act1: wow... frrom ctrl+alt+f1 type sudo reboot and see if there is any error message
[08:04] <Act1> and it i try too ) not remember full log, but it ok, all stoping and unmount, 2 last lines: "Will restart" "[ <numbers> ] Restarting system
[08:05] <Act1> in need i can reboot now and see it again
[08:05] <Act1> if*
[08:06] <tanjir> ohh
[08:07] <Act1> think it acpi... but dont know how config correctly
[08:11] <devilsadvocate> hi. my aptitude refuses to install anything since it says it cant find rhythmbox package. can anyone help me fix this issue?
[08:16] <jussi01> devilsadvocate: whats the error message it gives?
[08:17] <devilsadvocate> jussi01, it gives an internal error, says that i have to fix the package manually, and then exits
[08:17] <jussi01> devilsadvocate: could you post the exact messge?
[08:17] <devilsadvocate> jussi01, one sec
[08:17] <Act1> tanjir have ideas?
[08:19] <tanjir> Act1: sorry man... i was away... can't remember of anything
[08:19] <devilsadvocate> E: I wasnt able to find the rhythmbox package. It might mean you have to fix it manually
[08:19] <devilsadvocate> E: Internal error. could not generate list of packages to download
[08:19] <devilsadvocate> (i typed it in... couldnt figure out how to copy stuff out of aterm)
[08:20] <devilsadvocate> jussi01, ^
[08:21] <jussi01> devilsadvocate: I dont know aptitude that well, but you can try this: sudo aptitude install -f
[08:22] <devilsadvocate> jussi01, will try, thanks
[08:23] <devilsadvocate> im running a safe-upgrade now. im hoping that might fix it. its downloading the packages, so i expect the error to pop up again
[08:25] <Act1> mb smb  know why pc cant reboot?)
[08:26] <devilsadvocate> Act1, cant reboot?
[08:27] <Act1> yes
[08:27] <devilsadvocate> it just gets stuck somewhere, or comes back to the login screen?
[08:27] <Act1> in log last msg: "[ <some numbers> ] Restarting system
[08:28] <devilsadvocate> hm
[08:28] <Act1> in kde it stuck when kde logo and progress bar full
[08:29] <devilsadvocate> Act1, thats at login right? the kde splash? \
[08:29] <Act1> yes
[08:29] <Act1> no )
[08:30] <Act1> system boot right, but reboot cant
[08:30] <devilsadvocate> Act1, so when you reboot, it gets stuck after login, but when you turn off and turn on, it logs in fine?
[08:32] <devilsadvocate> the actual reboot itself is fine, Act1 ?
[08:33] <Act1> 1 min)
[08:35] <Act1> have bad eng and not understand something...
[08:35] <devilsadvocate> Act1, no problem
[08:36] <devilsadvocate> Act1, i am trying to understand what the problem is. when you select reboot, what happens? does the computer reboot and try to turn on again?
[08:38] <Act1> so booting system is fine,  login to system too. Working on pc - ok. Aftrer trying reboot: in GUI - i see kde logo and progress bar moving to 100% and stuck. In console (sudo reboot or sudo shutdown -r now) i see log, in log all fine, all unmoting and stoping.. last lines is: Restarting system
[08:39] <Act1> and stuck too
[08:39] <Act1> and help only hard reset
[08:39] <devilsadvocate> Act1, kde logo or kubuntu logo?
[08:39] <Act1> kubuntu
[08:41] <devilsadvocate> Act1, if it makes you feel any better, at that point it is safe to hard reset
[08:42] <devilsadvocate> Act1, my best guess is that there is some issue with the reboot signal linux has to send to your hardware.
[08:43] <devilsadvocate> so if you are ok with hard resetting it, you can continue doing that and be safe. im not sure how that can be fixed
[08:44] <devilsadvocate> Act1, sorry
[08:45] <Act1> in google i found few tips, acpi = off and pci  = noacpi, but with this params i can boot
[08:45] <Act1> few mans have same problem...
[08:47] <devilsadvocate> Act1, yeah. acpi is the thing that should be sending the reboot signal to the hardware/bios
[08:48] <Act1> dont know what do... in windows reboot is fine
[08:49] <devilsadvocate> Act1, its probably an acpi problem.
[08:50] <Act1> why kubuntu dont booting with params?
[08:50] <devilsadvocate> Act1, you can add the params if you want. there are some params already there
[08:51] <devilsadvocate> Act1, while booting, stop at grub. press e for edit, select the line, press e again, and when you are done changing things press b
[08:51] <devilsadvocate> Act1, or modify /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:52] <devilsadvocate> Act1, i dont recommend either (especially modifying /boot/grub/menu.lst) if you are not sure
[08:52] <Act1> i do it, and after edit i pres 'b' (boot with params) and pc just reboot
[08:53] <devilsadvocate> Act1, and comes back to grub?
[08:54] <Act1> yes
[08:54] <Act1> or boot (if not press esc)
[08:55] <devilsadvocate> hm
[08:57] <noren__> Act1: is ur prob solved
[08:58] <Act1> think? but windows reboot ok,  its no hardware problem...
[08:59] <Act1> oops )
 how solv my problem?
[09:00] <noren__> were you able to boot with acpi=off option
[09:00] <Act1> in grub
[09:00] <noren__> !acpi
[09:01] <noren__> Act1: yes from grub
[09:01] <enzo> Hi
[09:01] <enzo> i'm looking for a serial terminal on my kde
[09:01] <Act1> and pc reboot  after press "boot"
[09:01] <enzo> i know gtkterm, is there an equivalent for kde ?
[09:03] <noren__> Act1; your Kubuntu does not reboot !! am i right ??
[09:03] <Act1> yes
[09:03] <noren__> Act1: is it able to shut down properly
[09:04] <Act1> always pc-off for reboot... is not good
[09:05] <devilsadvocate> enzo, there is. i dont remember the name, but there are some nice qt (not kde) based serial terminals
[09:05] <enzo> komport ?
[09:06] <devilsadvocate> enzo, possibly. there are 3 or 4 usable ones
[09:07] <enzo> yakuake maybe devilsadvocate it rings a bell ?
[09:11] <noren> Act1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=525332 << check this out
[09:13] <devilsadvocate> enzo, yakuake is something else
[09:13] <devilsadvocate> enzo, yakuake is like a fun konsole
[09:14] <enzo> ah ok
 ths
[09:14] <Act1> thx
[09:15] <noren> Act1: if the prob persist then ask again
[09:18] <Bryan_Sierra> For some reason, kde keeps failing at startup. Any ideas? (Running kde 4.2)
[09:22] <noren> Bryan_Sierra: what do u mean by failing
[09:22] <noren> after login or at boot up
[09:22] <Bryan_Sierra> after loging in
[09:23] <noren> did u get updated to kde4.2.1 recently
[09:25] <Bryan_Sierra> I just upgraded, yeah. (But this problem also occured with 4.2.0)
[09:25] <Bryan_Sierra> I just removed kde, and reinstalled it. got 4.2.1
[09:26] <noren> Bryan_Sierra: even i had the same prob the screenn froze after login splash screen
[09:27] <Bryan_Sierra> Right, mine won't even get to through the splash screen. The hardrive icon just shows up, and then it restarts.
[09:27] <noren> does it restart or freeze up
[09:27] <Act1> noren doesn't help (
[09:28] <Bryan_Sierra> it freezes, then kdm restarts
[09:28] <noren> Act1: oh ok lemme check for some other solution
[09:28] <Bryan_Sierra> gnome works just fine.
[09:28] <voicu> Hi, I just upgraded to kde 4.2.1 and the battery monitor from the system tray is gone. what is the program name so i can get it back?
[09:28] <noren> Bryan_Sierra: u are using gdm or kdm
[09:28] <Bryan_Sierra> kdm
[09:29] <Act1> noren ok, i try reboot again (find few solutions) come in 2-3 min
[09:29] <noren> Act1: ok
[09:31] <noren> Bryan_Sierra: can u get in tty1
[09:32] <Bryan_Sierra> yeah
[09:32] <Bryan_Sierra> Well, i'm using gnome on the same computer.
[09:33] <Bryan_Sierra> So I think it's just an issue with kde. And I tried removing the .kde folder in my user directory. Didn't do anything.
[09:37] <nikola__> bä
[09:47] <user__> no effect (
 you here?
[10:06] <frinux> hi there
[10:08] <frinux> I have a little problem with kubuntu (kde) : when I exit or diconnect, kde doesn't remember the applications that where launched so that they are not restored at the next boot. For example if amarok is started when I exit, it won't be back at the next boot
[10:42] <Viasolus> Hi all, Anyone mind if I ask a quick Kubuntu question?
[10:42] <GWild> hello
[10:43] <Viasolus> If I would like to wipe clean my harddrive and install Kubuntu, do I need to format first, and then use the livecd, or will Kubuntu format my harddrive for me?
[10:44] <GWild> Viasolus: it will prompt you
[10:44] <GWild> Viasolus: you don't have to format IIRC
[10:46] <Viasolus> While everything worked well in the LiveCD trial, if I format and install Kubuntu, is there a greater risk of having difficulties with my drivers? I mean, did the livecd use the drivers already functioning, or did it connect on it's own?
[10:46] <GWild> and for future reference
[10:46] <GWild> !ask | Viasolus
[10:46] <GWild> Viasolus: IME the disk had drivers which worked 'out of the box'
[10:47] <Viasolus> Thanks.
[10:47] <GWild> Viasolus: and I had an ATI Radeon at the time - you should be good
[10:48] <Viasolus> Alright then, I'm gonna go finally stick it Microsoft, and if all goes well, see you again. Thanks for the help.
[10:49] <GWild> Viasolus: good luck - and know that the support here is outstanding (I'm brand new to Kub having been a Gentoo user'
[10:52] <elirips> Hello. Is there a programm available that can create 3d models and produce an obj-file of it?
[10:54] <noren> !opera
[11:28] <noren> !codec
[11:44] <sonotos> morgen
[11:44] <sonotos> kann das sein das unter konqueror 4 sowas wie webdav:// nicht mehr geht?!
[11:45] <bazhang> !de
[11:45] <sonotos> oh sorry forgot the .de
[11:46] <bazhang> :)
[11:46] <bazhang> -de actually :)
[11:46] <sonotos> thx
[11:46] <bazhang> np
[11:47] <sonotos> but i try in english, god chance to practice for me, gg
[11:48] <sonotos> i have a problem with konqueror 4, in konqueror 3.x i had the protocolls fish:// and webdav:// if i try to use them in konqueror 4 i get an error message that the folder not exists
[11:50] <sonotos> is this a configuration , whatever problem on my side, got this protocolls removed
[11:50] <sonotos> +er
[11:51] <sonotos> i hade that problem with serveral versions from 4.1 on 8:10 to 4.2 on 9.4
[11:52] <bazhang> this is jaunty now?
[11:52] <bazhang> ie 9.04?
[11:52] <sonotos> at the moment i'm running jaunty but it's the same problem as under 8:10
[11:53] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for jaunty discussion please
[11:55] <sonotos> k
[12:02] <hazamonzo_> Afternoon folks. IM trying to get my soundcard to play midi.. Im using kubuntu 8.10 (KDE 4.2.x) and im having trouble testing my sound card for Midi
[12:07] <hazamonzo_> So ive installed KMidimon and tried to play some mide from another program
[12:07] <hazamonzo_> KMidimon logged things happening.. i have no idea what
[12:07] <hazamonzo_> but i did not get any output on my speakers
[12:18] <sony> Hola
[12:19] <dwarder> buenos dias
[12:20] <sony> tengo un problema mi equipo no se conecta automaticamente a internet, para conectarme a internet tengo que darle a gestor de actualizaciones cada vez que inicio ubuntu
[12:21] <dwarder> !es
[12:21] <sony> tengo un problema mi equipo no se conecta automaticamente a internet, para conectarme a internet tengo que darle a gestor de actualizaciones cada vez que inicio ubuntu
[12:24] <sony> nadie me puede ayudar?
[12:25] <david13> Can you move icons on a panel?
[12:28] <GWild> david13: yes - unlock the widgets and go into panel settings
[12:31] <david13> Cool like I could figure that out on my own.
[12:37] <noren> wow using this opendns its made the surfing lightening fast !!!!!!!!!! :)
[12:41] <winterz> for some reason my graphics card isn't being properly found.  so i'm getting vanilla vesa.  this is after 6 months using this same system just fine.  does anyone have hints as to what might have happened?
[12:42] <winterz> all I did was reboot
[12:42] <winterz> of course, I have been updating all along
[12:48] <rimvis> hi i have one problem youtube.com doesn't work me from linux firefox how can i saw clips?
[12:49] <BluesKaj> howdy
[12:51] <jillsmitt> rimvis: there is no spoon
[12:52] <bazhang> jillsmitt, dont troll here
[12:53] <rimvis> spoon? it not spoon it's problem
[12:53] <jillsmitt> bazhang: hey... do you see the LOG of this room? omg this is very stupid enter-exit logs
[12:53] <jillsmitt> get out of my chat window fresk
[12:53] <jillsmitt> freak*
[12:53] <bazhang> !ot > jillsmitt
[12:53] <bazhang> jillsmitt, stop that
[12:54] <jillsmitt> bazhang: i said get out of my back
[12:54] <khashayar> Does anyone know if any special steps are required in order to get the sesame backend for soprano enabled?
[12:54] <jillsmitt> bazhang: say to my mom about troll!
[12:54] <bazhang> !ops | jillsmitt
[12:55] <Offoffoff> And where is ops?
[12:55] <Offoffoff> is it fun?
[12:55] <bazhang> Offoffoff, please return to -ru
[12:55] <Offoffoff> why so?
[12:59] <ZmAY> i am having several folders in /usr/lib/jvm/  is that ok? or is it enough to have only one
[13:03] <dazza_> hi, sorry to ask a common question but i am having trouble with my google skills: what is the name of the 32bit compatibility libs for 64bit kubuntu?
[13:06] <david13> can I delete dolphin and use konqueror as the file manager?
[13:06] <Offoffoff> david13: yes, You can.
[13:06] <bazhang> david13, no need to delete
[13:06] <bazhang> just use konqueror
[13:07] <david13> Yeah but when I use konqueror sometimes it opens up dolphin
[13:07] <david13> I just want to use one.
[13:07] <dazza_> ah it's ia32-libs :)
[13:08] <david13> Other applications open up dolphin up too..
[13:08] <Offoffoff> david13: sudo aptitude remove dolphin --purge
[13:08] <pf> witam
[13:09] <pf> wszystkich
[13:09] <pf> :)
[13:09] <ikonia> pf: please don't do that
[13:10] <pf> ?
[13:10] <Samuel-NotAFK> WHY CAN'T I USE KDE3 ON THE LATEST UBUNTU RELEASES?
[13:10] <ikonia> Samuel-NotAFK: you can start by not shouting please
[13:10] <ikonia> Samuel-NotAFK: there is no need for caps lock
[13:10] <pf> xD
[13:10] <Offoffoff> Samuel-NotAFK: this is not causher
[13:10] <Samuel-NotAFK> ikonia: I don't have a caps lock indicator.
[13:10] <ikonia> Samuel-NotAFK: you can see what you type before you press enter,
[13:10] <Samuel-NotAFK> ikonia: I can't touch type/
[13:11] <ikonia> Samuel-NotAFK: so ?
[13:11] <ikonia> Samuel-NotAFK: read the text before you press enter
[13:11] <david13> Probably cause 8.04.2 has all the updates intrepid has with kde3
[13:11] <david13> That would be my guess they did it that way for simplicity...
[13:11] <ikonia> !pl | pf
[13:12] <david13> They tell you to use 8.04 if you want kde3
[13:12] <Samuel-NotAFK> david13: 8.04 is old
[13:13] <david13> I don't know what to tell you.  I don't maintain it
[13:13] <ikonia> Samuel-NotAFK: so don't use old desktops on new releases
[13:13] <dazza_> Samuel-NotAFK: i still use it :)
[13:13] <Samuel-NotAFK> ikonia: KDE4 is not as good as KDE3
[13:13] <ikonia> Samuel-NotAFK: it's also a dying release
[13:13] <dazza_> Samuel-NotAFK: so use 8.04.2
[13:13] <Samuel-NotAFK> ikonia: WTF? it's not dying!
[13:14] <Samuel-NotAFK> KDE3 will be supported by Debian for years to cum
[13:14] <david13> lol
[13:14] <ikonia> Samuel-NotAFK: kde 3 branch is being phased away
[13:14] <ikonia> Samuel-NotAFK: development focus appears to be on 4
[13:14] <david13> come not cum
[13:15] <david13> You might get into trouble for improper language
[13:15] <dazza_> hehe
[13:15] <Samuel-NotAFK> david13: stfu
[13:15] <david13> And it begins
[13:16] <arcv> hi
[13:16] <Dr_willis> ive not seen near as many people whineing about kde 3.5 in here - as there used to be
[13:16] <arcv> hola
[13:16] <cryingtux_> hello
[13:16] <Dr_willis> whatever happened to that kde 3.5 port to 8.10 project? it die off?
[13:16] <ikonia> kde 3 is a valid request
[13:16] <dazza_> 4.2 is nearly a worthy replacement IMHO
[13:17] <ikonia> from how I've seen kde 4 progress I can understand people wanting to stay on 3
[13:17] <cryingtux_> i need help with the iso released on this link http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/
[13:17] <Dr_willis> I just noticed that archlinux also  - dosent seem to have kde3.  at least not mentioned on the wiki pages.
[13:18] <cryingtux_> i cant login to it, no username pw given on this site
[13:18] <dazza_> i remember being pained by 3.0/3.1 too
[13:18] <dazza_> heh pm?
[13:19] <Dr_willis> http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/  let me doenload the cd image
[13:19] <ikonia> Dr_willis: development commitment is just not focused on 3, so the quicker people start accepting 4 - the quicker it will get focus
[13:19] <Dr_willis> Im using gnome now on my netbook. :) so no biggie deal to me
[13:20] <Dr_willis> actually i normally use jwm + rox filer. but i still miss some of the features id gotten used to in kde 3
[13:20] <cryingtux_> Dr_willis: if you can manage the username and pw please let me know too
[13:21] <Dr_willis> cryingtux_,  i just clicked on the link and it downloaded.
[13:21] <Dr_willis> http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/kubuntu-intrepid-kde3-x86.iso
[13:21] <Dr_willis> Ive NO idea how well it works.
[13:22] <cryingtux_> Dr_willis: this iso downloads but when u want to login to it, there is no username pw, neither root nor user nor guest works on it
[13:22] <Dr_willis> No idea then. I dont even have it downloaded..
[13:30] <prophezy> what is the biggest diffrent between GNOME and KDE, Souce or what all this called?
[13:31] <stormchas2000> goodmorning
[13:32] <SteBo> prophezy: just try it and decide for yourself which desktop is best for you personally
[13:32] <SteBo> prophezy: they are both great
[13:32] <SteBo> prophezy: you could use live CDs for test drives
[13:32] <prophezy> SteBo I use now Kubuntu KDE
[13:33] <prophezy> but i wonder its the the layout .. thats the diffrent?
[13:33] <prophezy> can I say.. that GNOME and KDE = OS?
[13:34] <SteBo> prophezy: no, Kubuntu is the OS, Linux is the core of this OS, KDE is the graphical user interface and user application collection
[13:34] <Dr_willis> Linux is all abouyt Layers and layers and legos making up the layers.
[13:34] <SteBo> prophezy: Gnome is an alternative interface and application collection
[13:35] <Dr_willis> Linux, runs X, and the Desktop runs on top of X.
[13:35] <predator363> Can someone help me install nvidia drivers? iv been reading for like 3 days to fix my KDE to no avail iv tryed the nvidia .run file iv tryed hardware drivers iv tryed envyng and iv try manual all basicly yield the same problem either no graphics display or a fudged up one and reverting to the old drivers (177) dosent work please help?
[13:35] <Dr_willis> and a lot of things in between
[13:36] <prophezy> aha.. yes, i was testing ubuntu and now kubuntu.. and if we talk about the graphic i like more Kubuntu.. (I love Blue) :P
[13:36] <prophezy> but the installation i can use Gnome on KDE .. and KDE on Gnome right?
[13:36] <Dr_willis> prophezy,  you can easially install BOTH kde and gnome on the same machine and jsut pick what desktop to use at the Login screen
[13:36] <Dr_willis> and yes - you can mixx and match the apps.
[13:36] <Dr_willis> thats why i normally install both
[13:37] <prophezy> Dr_willis.. do you need to install both?
[13:37] <SteBo> prophezy: you are free to chose whatever you like most... it's just a package install away most of the times :-)
[13:37] <Dr_willis> I inall them both so i have all the apps.
[13:37] <Dr_willis> 'Linux - Your OS - Your Way'
[13:37] <prophezy> aha oki..
[13:37] <prophezy> so you mean if i have only KDE i cant install the Gnome app?
[13:38] <SteBo> prophezy: yes
[13:38] <Dr_willis> You can install them
[13:38] <Dr_willis> go ahead and try
[13:38] <predator363> lol if it was my way driver updates would be easier but i dont know how to make them that way so not really my way most other stuff yes btu drivers no lol
[13:38] <dazza_> SteBo: wrong ;)
[13:38] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal
[13:38] <SteBo> dazza_: huh?
[13:38] <Dr_willis> predator363,  all your other fixing/tweaking means its hard to tell whats going on.
[13:38] <dazza_> SteBo: you said yes, he can't install gnome apps
[13:39] <predator363> Dr_willis: what do you think i should do?
[13:39] <Dr_willis> predator363,  thats why i never reccomend the nvidia .run drivers
[13:39] <SteBo> dazza_: oh, I missed the t at the end of cant ;)
[13:39] <dazza_> SteBo: i suspected as much :) i read it the same way the first time too
[13:39] <predator363> dr_willis: i have never had luck with them lol i was hopeing maybe it would be different this time
[13:39] <prophezy> SteBo .. i know you answer that i could :) but you only type wrong
[13:40] <prophezy> :)
[13:40] <Dr_willis> predator363,  try to remove them as best you can.  learn how to install them via the console. and start installing one and checking I guess.. use 'startx' instead of kdm/gdm to launch X to see error messages
[13:40] <Dr_willis> what is yiour video card predator363 ?
[13:40] <predator363> geforce 8600m g
[13:42] <cryingtux_> Dr_willis: would you mention  "how to install fully working jwm on intrepid"  please?
[13:42] <Dr_willis> cryingtux_,  sudo apt-get install jwm
[13:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[13:42] <predator363> dr_willis: doing startx only gives me an nvidia logo and then a blinking _
[13:42] <Dr_willis> then tweak it as you want by copying/editing the system stuff
[13:42] <Dr_willis> predator363,  nvidia logo is a good sign.
[13:43] <cryingtux_> and xdm or gdm as login manager?
[13:43] <Dr_willis> predator363,  try the following.. 'sudo apt-get install jwm'   then edit the .xinitrc file to have the following 2 lines.
[13:43] <ubuntu__> whats different kubuntu kernel behinde ubuntu kernel
[13:43] <Dr_willis> xterm &
[13:43] <Dr_willis> jwm
[13:43] <prophezy> do anyone know why i cant connect to my wan at home... it found everything but it dont connect to it.. and sometime it dont find the home wan.. but find all the rest of the wan around the builings
[13:43] <predator363> dr_willis: is there a way to compleatly remove all X11 and re install it?
[13:43] <Dr_willis> # END OF FILE.
[13:43] <Dr_willis> predator363,  that wont do much good to remove X.
[13:43] <predator363> dr_willis: hold on going to do what you said
[13:44] <Dr_willis> cryingtux_,  set up a jwm.desktop for gdm/kdm if the package dosent make one.. i dont recall if it does or not
[13:44] <Dr_willis> predator363, those commands will setup 'jwm' as your default window maanger when you do 'startx'
[13:44] <Dr_willis> which  might help.. it might not. :) we are toubleshooting
[13:45] <cryingtux_> Dr_willis:  i will installing it from mini net install iso, so i would want to keep it as minimal as possible, no kdm/gdm
[13:45] <Nataouze> hello there
[13:45] <predator363> dr_willis: hold on now i have to force this thing to connect to the internet. lol i sent it in for repairs and got it back with the wireless card broken now i have to use the switch to turn it off and then back on before i can make it do anything
[13:45] <Dr_willis> cryingtux_,  then use .xinitrc
[13:45] <Nataouze> may anyone help me ?
[13:46] <cryingtux_> Dr_willis: thanks, will check how to configure it for jwm
[13:46] <Dr_willis> copy system wide system.jwmrc  (use locate jwmrc)  to users home/.jwmrc
[13:46] <Dr_willis> read jwm docs :) configure
[13:48] <predator363> dr_willis: ok what exactly do i do with jwm after install?
[13:48] <Dr_willis> set it to be the default wm. and  see if startx launches it.
[13:48] <Dr_willis> HOWEVER from what you are describing   'nvidia logo starts' then a black/console screen with _, sounds like something in the drivers are crashing
[13:48] <predator363> dr_willis: how do i set it as default?
[13:49] <Dr_willis> predator363,  thats what exiting .xinitrc was doing
[13:49] <Nataouze> I used to have a battery icon in my systray, it was very useful, but now it has gone, anyone knows how I can enable it back ?
[13:49] <predator363> dr_willis: well typing startx gives me the blinking curser thing but letting kde start up on boot gives me a bunch of video garbage
[13:50] <amik> hi, can anyone point me at a standard/popular/builtin backup application?
[13:50] <Dr_willis> so if you get back to the console with alt-ctrl-f1 - do you see any error messages?
[13:50] <Dr_willis> or alt-ctrl-F2-through6, i imagione F7 is the blinking screen again
[13:50] <predator363> dr_willis: nope
[13:50] <predator363> dr_willis: f7 is the video garbage i spoke of
[13:51] <predator363> dr_willis: but not a single error
[13:51] <predator363> dr_willis: i think it have somehting to do with detecting my display wrong but all i know about my display is it supposed to be at 1280x800_60
[13:52] <amik> !backup
[13:54] <Dr_willis> predator363,  you could try moving the xorg.conf to xorg.conf.FAILS so you have no xorg.conf and  try startx again
[13:54] <predator363> dr_willis: i have my home directorys and all of my files and thing on a different partition then the core of the OS i did this incase i ever needed to reinstall. I dont have a kubuntu disk so is there a way to reinstall everything (including the basic OS) via terminal? al i have already tryed removing my xorg.conf the only thing that gives me a good display (though very slow and flickery) is telling it to use the vesa driver
[13:59] <Dr_willis> i dont know of a way to reisntall everything from the terminal.
[13:59] <Dr_willis> most likely you just  may be able to get by with reinstalling the drivers/kernel files. that may clean out the old nvidia stuff
[14:00] <Dr_willis> the forums may have docs on propelry removing the stuff.
[14:00] <Dr_willis> SO the nvidia drivers have NEVER worked for you?
[14:01] <predator363> dr_willis: only the ones from the hardware drivers menu but those give me extreme video lag
[14:01] <Dr_willis> You mean lag in video playback?
[14:02] <dr_phd1> hi eveyone... I have got two questions, Which is the Ultimate Media Player for most of the files types in Ubuntu (Like Classic Media Player in Windows)
[14:02] <predator363> dr_willis: hell i mean lag in opening and closing menu's and windows lol
[14:03] <dr_phd1> #ubuntu
[14:03] <Dr_willis> dr_phd1,  i tend to use gmplayer, and vlc for 99.9% of my video playback needs
[14:04] <dr_phd1> Dr-willis: Will it play the flv extension
[14:05] <Dr_willis> if it dont you can always drag them to your web browser.
[14:05] <Dr_willis> im pretty suire ive played flv in ione of those 2
[14:05] <dr_phd1> thanks Dr-Willis
[14:07] <noren> ?? well is there a way f updating a i386 distro to 64bit distro ??
[14:08] <Dr_willis> noren,  reinstall
[14:08] <jals> !grub
[14:08] <Dr_willis> or do some fancy install via chroot and switch over.. which is basicially the same thing
[14:12] <predator363> dr_willis:i think im going to reinstall the OS later for now i will revert to the vesa drivers and save anything i might lose
[14:14] <predator363> dr_willis: do you think thats my best bet? because i dont like doing that lol the reason i use linux is because usualy you can just rip out the broken pice and put in a working one lol
[14:15] <Dr_willis> so the synaptic package manager version of the nvidia drivers where slow to begin with?
[14:15] <predator363> dr_willis: yes
[14:16] <Dr_willis> did youy try a desktop OTHER then kde4?
[14:16] <Dr_willis> kde4 and nvidia drivers - are known to have some bugs that make it sluggsh
[14:16] <predator363> dr_willis: yes iv used gnome and it gave about the same results
[14:16] <Dr_willis> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KDEmod#How_to_get_decent_performance_on_KDE_4_using_a_NVIDIA_graphics_card
[14:16] <Dr_willis> Might have some clues..
[14:17] <Dr_willis> other then that.. no idea. You coudl try the next release and see if the newer drivers help
[14:17] <predator363> dr_willis: im now starting ubuntu in low graphics mode. What do you mean next release?
[14:17] <Dr_willis> and yes. i know thats an arch wiki page. :) they suggest the following...
[14:17] <Dr_willis> Because of the poor 2D-performance in the NVIDIA drivers for 8000- and 9000-series cards, it's very important that you use the latest driver, which has improved a lot: version 173.14.09
[14:17] <Dr_willis> predator363,  the jaunty release.
[14:18] <predator363> dr_willis: 9.04? isent it still in alpha?
[14:18] <Dr_willis> No idea :) im not using it yet
[14:18] <Dr_willis> but what do you have to lose.
[14:19] <predator363> dr_willis: yea its still in alpha hasent even gone beta yet hmmm.. guess since my systems already broken i dont have much to lose
[14:20] <Dr_willis> you can be on the leet cutting edge!
[14:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:23] <predator363> dr_willis: eww did you just say leet
[14:24] <jals> !grub
[14:24] <predator363> dr_willis: great now im getting no scrrens found and unable to connect to x server...
[14:25] <Dr_willis> predator363,  that sounds like a missconfigured xorg.conf or somthing. :)
[14:25] <predator363> yea
[14:25] <predator363> i went back to vesa
[14:25] <predator363> guess i screwed it up
[14:25] <Dr_willis> try 'nv' instead of vesa?
[14:29] <predator363> dr_willis: lol i cant even run update manager cos it wants to open a display
[14:30] <david_> hi
[14:33] <abengoa> hola
[14:33] <abengoa> alguien habla español
[14:34] <Tm_T> !es | abengoa
[14:34] <bazhang> !es
[14:37] <pippo_> ciao
[14:37] <pippo_> !list
[14:37] <jals> how would i find the "name" that applies to a particular partition? "name" being (hd0,1) etc
[14:37] <Tm_T> pippo_: can you explain one thing for me? why often italians do that !list call when they join channel ?
[14:39] <hero> hye all
[14:40] <hero> what is special about kubuntu?
[14:40] <prophezy> Its Blue! :D
[14:40] <hero> i used ubuntu gnome.... but never experienced kubuntu
[14:40] <Tm_T> hero: well, try and see
[14:40] <Tm_T> hero: just install kubuntu-desktop package and login to KDE
[14:41] <hero> oh
[14:41] <hero> i heard its 600mb+?
[14:41] <hero> to download it
[14:42] <Tm_T> hero: well, instead of rely on somebodys sayings, try and see, I believe every package manager shows how much it would download
[14:42] <hero> oh okay TM_T
[14:42] <hero> maybe later.. :D
[14:43] <Tm_T> shame I cannot get any numbers, but I doubt it would be that much
[14:44] <hero> can i merge two linux in ubuntu TM_T?
[14:44] <hero> i've installed two linux and xp in one partition
[14:45] <hero> i've used chroot command...but can't merge the desktop but just the shell
[14:48] <[agata]> hi i am having a little tough time with fstab i am not sure of which values should i enter after the partition, the mount point and the filesystem...i remember it was something like default 0 0 but i couldnt tell exactly ;s
[14:49] <hero> do u want to mount it?
[14:50] <hero> i don't know about fstab very much but usually if i've got problem with ntfs ive used this command
[14:50] <[agata]> yes hero i want to mount a partition where i have all my data ... it's /dev/sda1 (for historical reasons)
[14:50] <toader> Hi, how to install kubuntu by *.iso
[14:50] <hero> sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda* /mnt/sda* -o force
[14:50] <[agata]> then if i do /dev/sda2 /home/alba ext3 defaults... i get lost with the 1 and 0
[14:51] <bazhang> toader, to burn the iso to cd?
[14:51] <[agata]> it's not ntfs just ext3 but i need to add it in fstab before
[14:51] <toader> hi, could anybody know how to install kubuntu without burn cd?
[14:51] <hero> owh i don't know that... :D
[14:51] <toader> bazhang: just by iso file
[14:51] <bazhang> toader, via usb?
[14:51] <toader> bazhang: it is also ok
[14:51] <toader> bazhang: i have a USB stick
[14:51] <twisterska> Hola?
[14:52] <bazhang> toader, what system are you on now
[14:52] <toader> bazhang: winxp
[14:52] <[agata]> i think it should be 0 1 but i am not sure :)
[14:52] <jals> hi guys, i'm triple booting kubuntu, XP and windows 7 on a single drive but i'm getting "bootmgr is missing" errors when i try to boot to windows 7 - i'm told i need to copy the boot directory and files from my XP partition onto the win 7 partition, does that sound right?
[14:52] <jals> i guess that's not entirely kubuntu related actually
[14:53] <[agata]> hmmm now only root can mount it
[14:54] <bazhang> jals, sounds like a ##windows problem
[14:54] <toader> bazhang: do you have idea
[14:54] <jals> bazhang, yeah as i wrote it i was thinking, hmm this doesn't seem right
[14:54] <bazhang> toader, just checking if unetbootin can do that from xp
[14:55] <bazhang> toader, let me search for a second as I dont use xp
[14:55] <[agata]> got it :p thanks hihi
[14:55] <toader> bazhang: just now i have used iso, but when i enter the install interface, there is only install from CD ROOM
[14:56] <toader> bazhang: there is no option from partition
[14:56] <jals> if a partition is sda 2, does that mean it'll be hd0,1 if there's only on drive?
[14:58] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=811397 toader here is xp to create ubuntu usb solution
[15:11] <corigo3> Since latest updates from Repository (8.10) can't mount Audio discs on my system. Where is the sys log that I can check for more details?
[15:20]  * Dr_willis wakes up
[15:21] <Elone> morning
[15:21] <Meizirkki> hello
[15:21] <Dr_willis> you dont 'mount' audio disks  the kde file manager has  kioslaves (i think) that make them appear as a 'filesystem'
[15:21] <Meizirkki> what is nepomuk and how can i disable it_
[15:22] <Dr_willis> its some sort of search-engine-tool i belive Meizirkki
[15:22] <Dr_willis> !info neopmuk
[15:22] <Dr_willis> !info nepmuk
[15:22] <Meizirkki> it _really_ slows down my poor n810
[15:22] <Dr_willis> and i cant spell :)
[15:22] <Dr_willis> !info nepomuk
[15:22] <Dr_willis> i give up
[15:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[15:22] <Dr_willis> !find nepomuk
[15:23] <Meizirkki> hmm
[15:23] <Meizirkki> souds like an important thing
[15:23] <Dr_willis> it seems to be integerated into kde4 rather deeply
[15:23] <Dr_willis> it can be disabled i recall.. but no idea how
[15:23] <Dr_willis> http://nepomuk.kde.org/
[15:24] <Meizirkki> nepomuk service database build is slowing everything down
[15:24] <Meizirkki> thanks
[15:24] <Dr_willis> The Nepomuk Server is a KDED module shipped with kdebase which provides the main Nepomuk data repository including full text indexing and a Strigi backend.
[15:24] <Dr_willis> in theory once it indexs the first time.. it should speed up :)
[15:25] <Meizirkki> ok
[15:32] <Drayton_> any1 know how to get trem to work on here?
[15:33] <nic22> I installed kubuntu-desktop to my PC, now how can I switch back to the old brown ubuntu splash screen on boot?
[15:34] <olskolirc> I'm on Intrepid Ibex - Kubuntu - when I try to edit my kmenu I get this error message when I save it:   /home/debzbox/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu: Permission denied  How do I fix this please?
[15:34] <nic22> are you root?
[15:34] <olskolirc> no
[15:34] <olskolirc> should just let me
[15:35] <nic22> do                 gksudo kate /home/debzbox/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu
[15:35] <BluesKaj> in kubuntu it's kdesudo, not gk
[15:36] <nic22> true
[15:36] <Dr_willis> genericsudo :)
[15:36] <nic22> :)
[15:36] <olskolirc> applications-kmenuedit.menu is an empty file nic22
[15:38] <noren_> olskolirc: see the exact spelling of the path
[15:39] <nic22> create it via dolphin,   kdesudo dolphin  /home/debzbox/.config/menus/
[15:39] <olskolirc> /home/debzbox/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu noren
[15:39] <nic22> and then new document, name it , edit it
[15:40] <david13> I hate window file name.  Is there a application out there that can remove spaces and replace them with a underscore or something more linux friendly?
[15:40] <bazhang> david13, in the konsole?
[15:40] <nic22> no
[15:40] <nic22> everywhere
[15:40] <Dr_willis> david13,  theres literally dozens of such ools
[15:41] <nic22> but then, what will underscores will be?
[15:41] <david13> I wish I knew cause I can't desend subdirectories with what little bash I know
[15:41] <Drayton_> how do i get remulous to work....ive installed and when i launch it brings a black screen up then closes
[15:41] <bazhang> what about tab complete
[15:41] <david13> It is getting frustrating
[15:42] <david13> I am talking over 100 files with spaces in them...
[15:42] <david13> and directories
[15:42] <bazhang> batch renaming?
[15:42] <david13> Yeah
[15:43] <olskolirc> ok nic22 I have a folder called applications-merged in my dolphin folder
[15:44] <nic22>  /home/debzbox/.config/menus/applications-merged? What are you trying to do anyway?
[15:45] <olskolirc> I'm on Intrepid Ibex - Kubuntu - when I try to edit my kmenu I get this error message when I save it:   /home/debzbox/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu: Permission denied  How do I fix this please?
[15:45] <Dr_willis> david13,  thers scripts that can do that.
[15:46] <Dr_willis> david13,  and gui tools as well.
[15:46] <bazhang> !info mrename
[15:46] <Dr_willis> i tend to use 'qmv' and similer tools from the command line
[15:46] <bazhang> amongst many others
[15:46] <Dr_willis> !find qmv
[15:46] <Dr_willis> !info renameutils
[15:46] <david13> Obviously...
[15:46] <bazhang> david13, ??
[15:47] <david13> I am tired I'll just sleep instead
[16:01] <votaguz> hi someone know why i can't resize my system tray panel, i have kde 4.2 ...
[16:02] <votaguz> I want a small system tray panel but i try to resize and it's still big
[16:04] <nic22> right click on panel -> panel settings -> resize it with your mouse
[16:08] <votaguz> nic22: but this onlye resize the panel and don't resize the System tray only
[16:10] <orphe> hi
[16:14] <tyrone> hello can anyone help me restore the transparecy of my panel I am in kde 4.2 i stop the desktop effects and when i turned them back on my panel got solid color
[16:16] <fjallagyldir> hej there
[16:16] <fjallagyldir> got stuck in some dvd-playback troubles here
[16:17] <fjallagyldir> oder besser in deutsch?
[16:18] <draik> Hello all
[16:18] <draik> I'm trying to listen to music of any form and it fails. Youtube, Amarok, Frostwire... It chops up the audio.
[16:19] <noren> draik:hi
[16:19] <draik> This also includes the logout audio.
[16:19] <draik> noren: Hi
[16:19] <fjallagyldir> hi noren
[16:20] <noren> fjallagyldir: hi
[16:20] <draik> Hey there fjallagyldir
[16:20] <fjallagyldir> my problem is playing commercial dvds
[16:20] <draik> !dvd | fjallagyldir
[16:20] <fjallagyldir> libdvdcss2 installed
[16:20] <fjallagyldir> xine, mplayer, ... installed
[16:21] <draik> Did you install libdvdread3?
[16:21] <fjallagyldir> libdvdnav4
[16:21] <fjallagyldir> jes i did
[16:21] <draik> Did you run the command after that?
[16:21] <noren> fjallagyldir: add medibuntu repo
[16:21] <fjallagyldir> you mean install-css.sh?
[16:21] <fjallagyldir> yes did
[16:21] <draik> Yep
[16:21] <fjallagyldir> also tried with medibuntu repos
[16:22] <draik> What is the exact command you entered?
[16:22] <Dr_willis>  medibintu repos work for me.
[16:22] <Dr_willis> I tend to use gmplayer/vlc  - vlc may not need those even.
[16:22] <fjallagyldir> /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/install-css.sh
[16:23] <draik> OK
[16:23] <Dr_willis> last i checked those docs/path was wrong ion some guides
[16:23] <noren> http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/  <<< check this out i found this interesting and helpful also
[16:23] <fjallagyldir> running here kubuntu 8.10 with 2.6.27-7-generic
[16:23] <fjallagyldir> also tried region set
[16:24] <draik> Not sure what else you need as I have done all you stated and get the DVD playback. I'm just wondering now about my audio being chopped into bits
[16:24] <yrena> holaaaaaaaaaa
[16:24] <fjallagyldir> hmm have u tried a different audio deamon?
[16:25] <draik> fjallagyldir: Just changed it. Let me see what happens
[16:26] <fjallagyldir> got an dvdreadblocks failed error
[16:26] <draik> Nope
[16:26] <fjallagyldir> which deamon do u use?
[16:27] <draik> VIA 8237 with ALC658D
[16:27] <draik> XINE backend
[16:28] <draik> They all chop up my audio
[16:28] <sparky> Does KDE auto adjust for Daylight Savings time?
[16:28] <Dr_willis> sounds like it may be a driver issue.
[16:28] <draik> sparky: Yup
[16:29] <draik> Dr_willis: How do I update the driver? I don't seem to have any available updates right now
[16:29] <fjallagyldir> does sound work on this pc in a former distro/version?
[16:29] <Dr_willis> use the source perhaps?
[16:29] <sparky> draik:  do I have to install NTP support?
[16:29] <Dr_willis> manually install the latest alsa.. you m ay want to check with the Jaunty live cd first - see if the alsa versions in it work better
[16:31] <draik> fjallagyldir: Yes, it was working fine the past few weeks, just got choppy as of a night or two ago
[16:31] <draik> sparky: Dunno. Sorry.
[16:31] <draik> Dr_willis: So I should enable source and apt-cache search alsa?
[16:31] <fjallagyldir> automatic updates?
[16:32] <Dr_willis> draik,  that would just rebuild the same version in the repos.
[16:32] <Dr_willis> draik,  theres proberly some guide on installing the latest alsa from source.. i did it once ages ago for  a quirky machine.
[16:32] <draik> fjallagyldir: No, I do the updates myself via alias.
[16:32] <mister_roboto> sparky: out of the box installs always did for me
[16:32] <draik> !alsa
[16:33] <sparky> mister_roboto: It doesn't by default or atleast on my current install.  It was set to local and doesn't seeem to install NTP support or auto update.. Anyhow it is fixed
[16:35] <mister_roboto> sparky: hmmm ok, well glad it's fixed. i'm running jaunty on my laptop here and when i got up this morning, dst was set correctly and i didn't install anything related to time
[16:36] <sparky> mister_roboto: well, lucky you! =D  Mine wasn't and I had to fix it manually.  I forget if that is a option in the install or not...
[16:37] <fjallagyldir> ubottu: isnt artsd outdated? thought kde4 is running esd
[16:37] <sparky> had to start and stop ntp daemon
[16:37] <sparky> done
[16:38] <sparky> not I have traveled to space time to the right "time" =P
[16:44] <draik> Would it be an issue if I'm on the latest kernel, 2.6.27-13-generic?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> !kernel
[16:51] <draik> So my audio is stuck and it shoulds like a choir of turkeys
[16:52] <draik> BRB...
[16:52] <prophezy_> do anyone know a good vmware for kubuntu?
[16:54] <Dr_willis> !vmware
[16:54] <draik> Well, the turkey choir is gone
[16:54] <suzi> hello, does anyone manage to download whole playlist using youtube-dl in 8.10 ?
[16:55] <draik> I restarted and the welcome audio sounded clear.
[16:55] <draik> I went to start amarok (even minirok) and they chop up the audio.
[16:55] <prophezy_> !virtualbox
[16:56] <Porky> Hi there, I have a problem, in Dolphin, there's no more window decorator, may someone help me?
[16:56] <corigo3> Since latest updates from Repository (8.10) can't mount Audio discs on my system. Where is the sys log that I can check for more details?
[16:56] <draik> This will be an issue for another day. I have to eat breakfast now and start heading off to work. Have a great day everyone.
[16:59] <fjallagyldir> corigo3, go to terminal and there cat /var/log/messages or hit in dmesg
[16:59] <JuJuBee> anybody have experience with atheros928x wifi chipset?
[16:59] <fjallagyldir> dmesg | grep tail -f will also do the job
[17:00] <Dr_willis> You dont 'mount' audio disks.. KDE has features that make them appear as a 'filesystem' but its a kde 'trick/feature'
[17:00] <fjallagyldir> JuJuBee, a little, whats ur prob?
[17:00] <JuJuBee> Can't get my laptop to link wtih my router
[17:01] <fjallagyldir> what das iwconfig say?
[17:01] <fjallagyldir> srry what does iwconfig say?
[17:02] <JuJuBee> hmmm, my wlan0 is missing...
[17:02] <JuJuBee> no wireless extension for lo, eth0 or pan0
[17:02] <Dr_willis> is it  under the table?
[17:03] <JuJuBee> ha ha...
[17:03] <fjallagyldir> allready tried ndiwrapper? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[17:04] <fjallagyldir> lol
[17:04] <JuJuBee> I thought the ath9k was built into the 2.6.27-11 kernel?
[17:04] <fjallagyldir> iwtools installed?
[17:05] <fjallagyldir> modprobed the module by hand already?
[17:05] <kvh_> For some reason gtk-vim stopped working, it doesn't do anything.  I've tried purging it and reinstalling, but no luck.
[17:05] <Dr_willis> kvh_,  remove/reinstalling is windows thinking.
[17:05] <JuJuBee> fjallagyldir: no, doesn't apear to be
[17:05] <Dr_willis> kvh_,  run it from a terminal . look for error messages
[17:06] <fjallagyldir> what does lsmod |grep ath say?
[17:06] <kvh_> Dr_willis: Did that... nothing happens; when I ctrl+c, I get ^CICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 6574, errno = 4
[17:06] <Porky> Please , I have a problem in Dolphin, there's no more window decorator, may someone help me?
[17:07] <fjallagyldir> how did they disapear? any idea Porky?
[17:07] <JuJuBee> fjallagyldir: nothing..
[17:07] <Dr_willis> gone for just ONE program? or all progerams Porky ?
[17:07] <Porky> Dr_wills, Just Doplhin
[17:07] <kvh_> strace says 'read(6,' as it is waiting
[17:08] <fjallagyldir> do you know whats the name of the moule for ur ath card?
[17:08] <JuJuBee> ath9k?
[17:08] <JuJuBee> I think
[17:08] <Porky> fjallagyldir no Idea... maybe after an update
[17:08] <JuJuBee> from what I read online ar928x chipset.
[17:08] <fjallagyldir> and modprobe -l |grep ath
[17:09] <fjallagyldir> have u checked ur chipset with lspci?
[17:09] <Porky> Dr_willis , Just Doplhin
[17:09] <JuJuBee> lists /kernel/drivers/net/net/wireless/ath9k/ath9k.ko
[17:10] <fjallagyldir> probiermal 'modprobe ath9k'
[17:10] <JuJuBee> lspci | grep ar928x shows nothing
[17:10] <fjallagyldir> und dann iwconfig
[17:10] <david13> anyone know how to delete dolphin without taking konqueror with it?
[17:11] <JuJuBee> Error inserting ath9k.... operation not permitted.
[17:11] <JuJuBee> FATAL, btw
[17:11] <fjallagyldir> just lspci and it should list all ur pci devices
[17:11] <fjallagyldir> u have to do that as root
[17:12] <fjallagyldir> david13, tried apt-get remove dolphin?
[17:12] <JuJuBee> fjallagyldir: I see Ethernet Controller for Atheros ar928x
[17:12] <david13> Yeah and it pulls konqueror in for some reason... I can paste-bin it if ya want to see
[17:13] <JuJuBee> Sry, network controller
[17:13] <fjallagyldir> no i belive u
[17:13] <fjallagyldir> yes
[17:13] <fjallagyldir> at least we know now that it is a ar928x
[17:14] <fjallagyldir> brb
[17:14] <david13> I guess I don't have to delete it if I can figure out how to tell it to open up konqueror for my file browsing needs
[17:14] <david13> Is a upgrade to kde 4.2 worth it or should I wait until April?
[17:19] <Elone> i would wait ^^
[17:19] <pkt> If you upgrading from 3.5 I 'd wait too
[17:20] <pkt> there are still lots of small details here and there until there is full feature parity with 3.5
[17:20] <pkt> although all the major stuff seems done
[17:20] <fjallagyldir> re
[17:21] <JuJuBee> fjallagyldir: k
[17:21] <fjallagyldir> tried to load the module as root?
[17:22] <suzi> unfortunatelly kde 4.2 is unbelievable slow on my latop
[17:22] <JuJuBee> sudo modprobe ath9k ?
[17:23] <fjallagyldir> yupp
[17:24] <JuJuBee> yes, just restarted and tried that.  lsmod | grep ath9k shows ath9k and mac80211
[17:24] <fjallagyldir> and iwconfig?
[17:24] <JuJuBee> wlan0 is back
[17:25] <fjallagyldir> u know how to config the device and so on?
[17:25] <linux> hi
[17:25] <fjallagyldir> hek
[17:25] <fjallagyldir> hej#
[17:26] <JuJuBee> I do, but it wont connect. strength meter shows almost no signal.
[17:26] <JuJuBee> I am 2 feet away
[17:27] <fjallagyldir> how is the router configured?
[17:27] <fjallagyldir> mybe hidden SSID
[17:27] <fjallagyldir> maybe powersave ...
[17:28] <JuJuBee> no, not hidden, just checked.
[17:31] <JuJuBee> Now can't seem got ge to configure the wlan... icon not in system tray...
[17:31] <kalp> hi ppl
[17:31] <kalp> sum help needed
[17:32] <fjallagyldir> tr
[17:32] <fjallagyldir> try to start it over the k-menu
[17:33] <JuJuBee> K, when I open knetworkmanager, try to add connection, doesn't show wifi network in my house
[17:34] <kalp> u need to install driver
[17:35] <kalp> ppl i need help
[17:36] <kalp> in my kde, in right clicking for "paste" after a "copy" command , the "paste" option is always disabled
[17:36] <Dr_willis_AAO> !ask
[17:36] <Dr_willis_AAO> perhaps install one of those clipboard manager tools.
[17:38] <kalp> i am talking about copying and pasting files , folders
[17:39] <Dr_willis_AAO> no idea then
[17:39] <kalp> it seems no one knos this priblem
[17:40] <fjallagyldir> JuJuBee, and your network isnt hidden? no macadress filter?
[17:41] <frank> Hello?
[17:42] <JuJuBee> fjallagyldir: no to both.
[17:42] <frank> quit
[17:43] <fjallagyldir> hmm now i get also stuck with my advice
[17:45] <Elone> a b g mode problem?
[17:47] <JuJuBee> fjallagyldir: same happening to you?
[17:48] <kalp> in my kde, in right clicking for "paste" after a "copy" command , the "paste" option is always disabled
[17:48] <HelloWorld> hello
[17:48] <kalp> i am talking about copying and pasting files , folders
[17:49] <fjallagyldir> kind of JuJuBee but its already 4 years in the past.... so i cant remember that well
[17:50] <HelloWorld> I got my free kubuntu CD that I had ordered after KDE 4.2 was launched. So, Does Kubuntu CD that I got contains KDE 4.2?
[17:50] <fjallagyldir> kalp, have a look at the permissions of the folders
[17:50] <Elone> HelloWorld,  no
[17:50] <kalp> it can be copied, by draging the file/folder
[17:50] <kalp> so permission is ok
[17:51] <Elone> HelloWorld, Kubuntu don't have KDE 4.2 release yet
[17:51] <HelloWorld> Elone: When is Kubuntu going to officially adopt and put KDE 4.2 into some Kubuntu release?
[17:51] <Elone> HelloWorld, wait till April release
[17:52] <kalp> in my kde, in right clicking for "paste" after a "copy" command , the "paste" option is always disabled
[17:52] <kalp> i am talking about copying and pasting files , folders
[17:52] <kalp> it can be copied, by draging the file/folder
[17:52] <kalp> so permission is ok
[17:52] <JuJuBee> fjallagyldir: it couldn't have to do with 64 bit linux, could it?
[17:53] <kalp> why is it always disabled
[17:53] <kalp> ?
[17:53] <tanjir> HelloWorld: in the kubuntu website, on their mainpage they have the news of supporting KDE 4.2... you can follow the instruction from there
[17:54] <HelloWorld> ty tanjir and Elonw :)
[17:59] <suzi> how can i get filename of the file without extension - like movie not movie.avi ?
[17:59] <kalp> in my kde, in right clicking for "paste" after a "copy" command , the "paste" option is always disabled, why so? how to correct this?
[17:59] <Elone> kalp, idk ~ is it all the user account like that?
[17:59] <suzi> using console
[17:59] <kalp> there is only 1 user
[18:01] <Elone> kalp, create and new user and see?
[18:02] <Elone> suzi what do you mean?
[18:07] <prophezy_> !codecs
[18:08] <mikevanhoff> any links for webcam problems on a eee (1000H) with easy peasy
[18:09] <jeff__> okay, How do i install Mozilla? im missing something..- I download it. extract it with ark, but where do i go from there?
[18:13] <JuJuBee> fjallagyldir: I FINALLY DID IT...  Thanks to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download
[18:16] <alexxc> hello
[18:16] <Bryan_Sierra> I can only expand/contract yakuake if it's ran by root. Any suggestions?
[18:17] <trappist> Bryan_Sierra: my first guess, maybe you ran it as root first, which caused config files etc. to be owned by root.  check permissions on yakuake stuff in your home dir.
[18:18] <Bryan_Sierra> deleted both config files
[18:18] <Bryan_Sierra> in .kde and .kde-neon
[18:18] <trappist> that's all I had, sorry :)  I haven't used yakuake in probably 2 years
[18:19] <Bryan_Sierra> :P well if you have a better suggestions I'm all...eyes...
[18:19] <Bryan_Sierra> (For a terminal that is)
[18:19] <trappist> that kind of thing happens to me with vim, when I install a new system and right away do sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list or something
[18:19] <jerware> hi
[18:19] <jerware> to "unlock" sudo, do  i run --> sudo passwd ?
[18:20] <trappist> unlock?
[18:20] <jerware> sigh
[18:20] <trappist> you don't want to have to use a password, or what?
[18:20] <jerware> i mean su -
[18:21] <jerware> i cant su -
[18:21] <trappist> oh, no, you sudo su -
[18:21] <jerware> ok
[18:21] <trappist> that doesn't unlock anything, that's just how you become root, if you must
[18:21] <sparr> how can I make kde listen to mouse buttons and the keyboard to keep the screensaver at bay, instead of just mouse movement?
[18:22] <trappist> you *can* give root a password so you could su -, but that defeats the purpose of ubuntu's default setup, which is a really good idea
[18:22] <trappist> sparr: keyboard activity should prevent the screensaver showing up
[18:22] <trappist> mouse buttons too
[18:22] <sparr> i completely agree
[18:22] <trappist> heh.
[18:30] <jeff__> is there a linux equivalent of windows- defragmenter?
[18:30] <noren> hi DaSkreech
[18:31] <DaSkreech> hi
[18:31] <trappist> jeff__: for some filesystems yes, but in general linux filesystems defrag on the fly
[18:31] <BluesKaj> !defrag | jeff__
[18:31] <noren> DaSkreech: good to see u again. i gt everything fixed up here.
[18:32] <DaSkreech> noren: Wonderful!
[18:32] <DaSkreech> Desktop is back?
[18:33] <noren> spent the entire day after that...got a fresh install and update... now i got kubuntu i386 ubuntu 64 bit and windows
[18:33] <noren> but i cuold not still figure out y it crashed in the first place
[18:34] <jeff__> thanks
[18:35] <jeff__> okay, one last thing- Mozilla install problems.... I download it, extract it with ark, but how do i get it to actually install/work?
[18:40] <DaSkreech> noren: Well at least this install was not as bad as the last
[18:41] <ramses> moep
[18:42] <noren> DaSkreech: no tis time it was smooth
[18:43] <afancy> hi, how to install kubuntu without CD, but *.iso file. I have already the ISO files
[18:43] <DaSkreech> !iso
[18:43] <DaSkreech> !install
[18:44] <DaSkreech> afancy: the last link
[18:53] <noren> DaSkreech: have u ever tried installing ffrom iso, i was pretty unsuccesfull quite a few time
[18:53] <noren> i got this laptop with broken cdrommm  did try a few times there but cud not succeed
[18:55] <toto__> ciao
[18:55] <DaSkreech> noren: no I've mostly done network installs
[18:55] <DaSkreech> toto__: ciao
[18:56] <toto__> !list
[19:01] <toto__> ciao
[19:02] <toto__> !list
[19:02] <DaSkreech> toto__: Need something?
[19:04] <Forger1986> Hello. I use Kubuntu 8.04 and I'm experiencing permanent PC freezes when a random audio file starts looping the last 1-2 seconds and everything halts (kb and mouse for instance).
[19:05] <Forger1986> Anyone encountered the same thing?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> !virus
[19:43] <DaSkreech> Forger1986: What kind of audio ?
[19:43] <Forger1986> Anything I play
[19:44] <Forger1986> However I don't use other players than amarok too often
[19:44] <Forger1986> *players other than amarok
[19:45] <DaSkreech> so once you start playing any file it freezes?
[19:45] <Forger1986> No, that's the problem, I can't isolate this behavior
[19:45] <Forger1986> It happens sometimes after the first 5 minutes, other times I'm fine a few days.
[19:45] <Forger1986> Also, the problem is not in a particular audio file.
[19:46] <DaSkreech> All mp3?
[19:46] <DaSkreech>  all wav?
[19:46] <Forger1986> mp3 for sure. I'm not sure on the flacs though
[19:49] <DaSkreech> I'm wondering if it's a codec issue
[19:49] <DaSkreech>  what soundcard?
[19:49] <Forger1986> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[19:53] <BluesKaj> I don't understand why ppl listen to crappy mp3 compressed audio now when even the cheapest playes will hold gigs of songs ..it's old technology
[19:54] <jillsmitt> BluesKaj: because ppl are stuppid sheeps
[19:54] <ericu_> they want more songs on the same space?
[19:54] <Forger1986> BluesKaj: I see your point, however, when I buy my own CDs I encode the files in FLAC, but for the music I've had since 3 years ago I'd be mad to convert it all huh
[19:54] <Forger1986> Your remark is not helpful
[19:54] <ericu_> my vehicle has alot of road noise, I can't even tell the difference between mono and stereo mp3s
[19:55] <BluesKaj> no 'phones ?
[19:55] <Forger1986> hint-hint for us guys who spent 1k USD on an audio system, it does make a difference
[19:55] <ericu_> I can't wear headphones while driving, it makes me too disconnected
[19:55] <linknet> wwwportal .sk
[19:55] <ericu_> Granted, ogg is probably a better approach to containing audio anyways, but cheap players only support mp3 and (gag)wma
[19:56] <Forger1986> Old generation ipods don't know ogg
[19:56] <ericu_> The new ones do?  In apt, there was a mud client for KDE that was really good, does anyone know what it's called, or can someone quickly check?
[20:12] <Aizawa> I think that when you searched apt for a mud client it was the only one that showed up.
[20:12] <jillsmitt> Aizawa: apt - sucks
[20:13] <Aizawa> I don't need to hear that, I want to know what the mud client was called
[20:13] <Forger1986> apt-cache search mud | grep client
[20:13] <Forger1986> gnome-mud - The GNOME MUD client
[20:13] <Forger1986> kildclient - Powerful MUD client with a built-in Perl interpreter
[20:13] <Forger1986> papaya - extensible MUD client
[20:13] <Forger1986> tf - Tinyfugue MUD client for TinyMUDs, DikuMUDs, and LPMUDs
[20:13] <Forger1986> tintin++ - classic text-based MUD client
[20:13] <Aizawa> kildclient, that's the one. Thanks, whoever..did...that
[20:13] <Forger1986> ;)
[20:14] <[Agatha]> hmm Forger1986 i had a folder i gave only permissions to root to access and so on
[20:14] <Aizawa> huh, I guess it's gtk. oh well, it's still good
[20:14] <[Agatha]> and i wanted to change the ownership to my user back, because now i need to access the stuff inside
[20:15] <[Agatha]> so i used chown to give it back to me... i guess that's the way
[20:15] <Forger1986> If your dir is owned by root now, only root can give your "agatha" user (for instance) ownership back.
[20:16] <Forger1986> Yes, you should sudo chown -R agatha:agatha /path/to/dir
[20:16] <lol222> hello
[20:16] <[Agatha]> ok so i did well hehe :) thanks a lot
[20:17] <peaches__> can anyone successfully run pulseaudio daemon? i get segfault out of the box
[20:18] <lol222> my keyboard sotpped working and i don't know why or how to fix it. it normaly works in BIOS but when kubntu starts to load it just stops. can somebody help me ? thanks for answers.
[20:25] <BluesKaj> !pulseaudio
[20:25] <mattias_> nice client=)
[20:30] <zied> slt
[20:30] <zied> salut a tous
[20:31] <zied> hi
[20:31] <zied> hi all
[20:31] <Forger1986> Hello
[20:32] <zied> hi
[20:32] <zied> can you speak frensh plz
[20:32] <BluesKaj> !fr | zied
[20:33] <zied> meri
[20:34] <Forger1986> BluesKaj, which are the commands that can be prefixed by '!' for ubottu's output?
[20:37] <BluesKaj> Forger1986 , most linux apps available in the default repositories can be afaik
[20:38] <Forger1986> TY. And the "This is an English only chatroom" is done with "!$lang | $username" I see
[20:39] <BluesKaj> Forger1986 , and languages available in k/ubuntu
[20:40] <Forger1986> TY for the tip
[20:40] <BluesKaj> np
[20:41] <lol222> can some one help me with my keyboard?
[20:44] <pulc> hi
[20:45] <pulc> hello
[20:57] <ortab> .
[21:08] <maxmahem> hey got a problem. Plasma seems to be crashing on boot.
[21:09] <tanjir> which kde u r using?
[21:09] <maxmahem> 4.2
[21:09] <maxmahem> was working up until a recent update.
[21:10] <tanjir> it was working on 4.2?
[21:10] <manchoenk> hi all
[21:10] <maxmahem> Yes, it has been working fine until I applied some of the most recent patches to it.
[21:10] <maxmahem> any easy way to roll those back?
[21:11] <tanjir> thr must be... i m also new bie... some one else might be able to help u
[21:12] <tanjir> i knew 4.2 has issue with plasma
[21:15] <senorpedro> why doesnt that work: find -type d -exec echo '{}'\; ?
[21:15] <Forger1986> I wouldn't use the simple quotes... ?
[21:16] <Forger1986> Or oh wait - you need  a space between {} or '{}' and \;
[21:16] <Forger1986> (the simple quotes are not a problem actually)
[21:16] <senorpedro> ok, thx Forger1986
[21:16] <Forger1986> np
[21:17] <senorpedro> ..well still not working
[21:17] <senorpedro> find: missing argument for "-exec"
[21:17] <Forger1986> find -type d -exec echo '{}' \;
[21:17] <senorpedro> ah no wait
[21:17] <senorpedro> now it works
[21:17] <Forger1986> Because you didn't put a space between '{}' and \;
[21:17] <senorpedro> yes, stupid me put the space between the { and the }
[21:18] <senorpedro> now it works, thx Forger1986
[21:44] <zipper-zipco> hi everyone
[21:45] <Adam_Tech> I need some help with java and firefox 3
[21:47] <Adam_Tech> anyone?
[21:49] <zipper-zipco> alot people here .
[21:49] <zipper-zipco> no one is helping
[21:49] <Adam_Tech> yea
[21:49] <Adam_Tech> 328 people
[21:50] <zipper-zipco> i m not very good but u can say me. mayber it can work lol
[21:50] <Adam_Tech> lol
[21:53] <maxmahem> hmm... well I found my solution to my plasma crash problem if anyone is interested.
[21:54] <maxmahem> For some reason the update I applied did not like my plasma configuration
[21:54] <Adam_Tech> you have 8.04?
[21:54] <maxmahem> rm'ing it from ~/.kde/share/config/ fixed the problem
[21:55] <maxmahem> though I lost all my old configuration.
[21:55] <Adam_Tech> could you help me with Java?
[21:55] <tanjir> maxmahem: nice
[21:56] <tanjir> Adam_Tech: is ur java installation failing too?
[21:57] <Adam_Tech> do i use the normal bin file or RPM?
[21:57] <maxmahem> so new rule for fixing linux. When all else fails, just start deleting random files
[21:57] <Adam_Tech> lol
[21:57] <elirips> hello. I have currently kubunt 8.10 installed, now I need to install windows vista on another partition. I assume that installing vista will destroy grub, what can I prepare to restore it afterwards?
[21:59] <zipper-zipco> kernel panic. who can help me
[21:59] <maxmahem> DON'T PANIC!
[21:59] <zipper-zipco> im
[21:59] <zipper-zipco> :?
[21:59] <tanjir> Adam_Tech: sorry bro... my window cleared... can u paste again?
[21:59] <zipper-zipco> i got a problime like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4398012#post4398012
[22:01] <Adam_Tech> How do you install Java?
[22:01] <Adam_Tech> I downloaded he self-extracting file from java
[22:01] <Adam_Tech> whats next?
[22:03] <tanjir> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[22:03] <tanjir> for java 5
[22:03] <tanjir> for java 6: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[22:05] <Adam_Tech> say invalid operation nstall
[22:05] <Adam_Tech> oops typed wrong
[22:07] <Adam_Tech> ok
[22:07] <Adam_Tech> its failing...
[22:07] <tanjir> the same error msg as yesterday?
[22:07] <Adam_Tech> says there isn't one, and something about candidate
[22:07] <Adam_Tech> yea, for 6
[22:07] <Adam_Tech> and i just upgraded to kubuntu 8.04
[22:07] <tanjir> downgraded :{
[22:08] <Adam_Tech> won't it still work?
[22:08] <tanjir> i had the same problem today and saw adept was on my task bar so i upgraded my system using that
[22:09] <tanjir> it should work... i installed 6 on my 8.04
[22:09] <Adam_Tech> but i have the file on my desktop
[22:09] <coreyman> ok time just changed here, how do i set this clock widget back an hour
[22:09] <tanjir> is it a deb file?
[22:10] <Adam_Tech> bin
[22:11] <Adam_Tech> its a .bin
[22:11] <Caronte> chmod +x foo.bin
[22:11] <Caronte> ./foo.bin
[22:11] <coreyman> what is +x
[22:11] <Caronte> man chmod
[22:12] <Adam_Tech> whats foo.bin?
[22:12] <tanjir> do "chmod r+x foo.bin"
[22:12] <tanjir> and then "./foo.bin"
[22:13] <Adam_Tech> invalid mode "r+x
[22:13] <Adam_Tech> "
[22:13] <tanjir> replace foo.bin with your javainstaller.bin
[22:13] <coreyman> caronte change files and directories recursively
[22:13] <coreyman> how much more was that to type than man chmod? >.>
[22:14] <tanjir> try with chmod 777 foo.bin
[22:15] <coreyman> lol 777
[22:15] <Adam_Tech> cannot access
[22:15] <Adam_Tech> says file does not exist
[22:16] <tanjir> what? :-| do ls and see if the file exists :P
[22:16] <tanjir> or u r mistyping
[22:16] <tanjir> coreyman: so that there is no way it fails :P
[22:16] <coreyman> yea i hear ya tanjir :]
[22:17] <Adam_Tech> omg, why can't kubuntu just have .exe file and make it easier than typing a truckload of commands into a concole?
[22:17] <Adam_Tech> console**
[22:17] <tZo> evening everyone!!
[22:17] <tanjir> Adam_Tech: good question... indeed... :P
[22:17] <coreyman> adam_tech we do have a .exe equiv i think, called .deb
[22:18] <Adam_Tech> oh
[22:18] <genii> Adam_Tech: Instead of downloading .bin files and struggling, most people tend to use the packages which are available through Adept/Synaptic
[22:18] <tanjir> .bin is more generic
[22:18] <coreyman> .bin is like source.
[22:18] <coreyman> I use apt-get to install packages
[22:19] <tZo> hey guys i got a question : i just installed ubuntu and kubuntu as virtual machine on vmware ... everything works but when i try to see all the hardware he sow he doesn't show me nothing , like my video card ... and when i try to activate effects doesn't work .. anyone can tell me why? thank you ( i know this may be a stupid question but its the 1st time i use it )
[22:19] <tanjir> coreyman: it fails for him
[22:19] <coreyman> tanjir did he try apt-get update?
[22:19] <tanjir> tZo: effects don't work with virtual machine
[22:19] <tanjir> coreyman: he said he did and with error msg it failed
[22:20] <tZo> tanjir , so i should install it ... but how can i do it without losing my black xp installed on C partition ..?
[22:20] <coreyman> tanjir oh, odd. i wouldn't live with that , i'd have to fix it.
[22:20] <tanjir> tZo: do you have extra partitions? or only c drive?
[22:21] <tZo> and is there any way , since i installed ubuntu , to find out if there is any hardware that won't work ?
[22:21] <tanjir> coreyman: me neither... i use apt-get too often
[22:21] <tZo> tanjir: no i have 2 C and D
[22:21] <tZo> i use C for windows , and D as data for movies music ...
[22:21] <coreyman> C and D are windows naming techniques
[22:22] <tZo> coreyman:  may be , i realy don't know , i allways used windows and now i decided to try linux
[22:22] <tanjir> tZo: run using ur livecd... check if u can hear music, browse internet, and watch move, most of ur hardware is fine
[22:22] <tanjir> if u have  extra hardware like sd drive, usb, check them from live cd... if they run okay, u r good to install ubuntu on ur pc
[22:23] <tanjir> n there are few good decent tutorials on how to install ubuntu beside xp... the installation itself is very easy... u just need to understand what hda or sda means :P
[22:23] <tZo> tanjir: but now that i installed as virtual machine , and i tryed everything , and worked fine music , internet .. and now i chat from it ... its the same like using live cd or?
[22:24] <tZo> or i should try live cd?
[22:24] <tanjir> tZo: the ones in virtual machine and the real hardware is different... virtual machine creates an abstract layer on top of ur operating system
[22:25] <tZo> and i wanted to ask you something else tanjir , i even installed as virtual machine kubuntu ... what of ubuntu or kubuntu better to start from? sincer i never used linux
[22:25] <tanjir> if u check u will have different graphics card, or network card in ur computer and in the OS running on vmware
[22:25] <tanjir> any of them is good to start with... both are pretty simple... both comes with a irc application u can connect to freenode and ask for help here :P
[22:26] <tZo> ok , anothe question tanjir , here at home i have an wireless connection .. it will work after i install ubuntu or i should 1st try to find some drivers or?
[22:26] <tZo> i got a laptop acer aspire 5613
[22:27] <tanjir> i will say boot ur computer with the live cd... and see if it works off-the-shelf... if it does not, then there are different tweaks u can do to make it working
[22:28] <tZo> ok then from where i can download an live cd? or i can use allready my .iso ?
[22:28] <tanjir> before u install check e'thing if they are working
[22:28] <_gunni_> tZo: kubuntu or ubuntu (aka kde or gnome) is mostly a matter of taste. Most in here prefer kde i think :)
[22:28] <tanjir> and i will recomment u to spend some time on the one u installed on  vmware before u install it completely
[22:29] <tanjir> u need a cd burner... and burn a cd from iso file... don't copy it... it will create the live cd
[22:29] <tanjir> _gunni_: lol... right u r sir!
[22:29] <tanjir> kubuntu it is
[22:29] <_gunni_> tZo: You also may try wubi, it gives you a way to install ubuntu on your windows partition without changing anything to your partitions
[22:29] <tZo> ok i'm trying sincer this morning it looks so cool just as virtual machine .. i guess it will be greater as normal os :)
[22:30] <tanjir> Adam_Tech: any luck?
[22:30] <tZo> so _gunni_ if i want to install it , without losing my windows partition how can i do it?
[22:30] <_gunni_> It reduces performance, but for trying it is a good choice (If it works reliable for you)
[22:30] <tanjir> tZo: it will... as long u don't want office 2007 :P
[22:30] <tZo> i have black xp in my C drive :)
[22:31] <tZo> tanjir: lol i don't use it :) just at work :))
[22:31] <trappist> in kmail 1.4, I can't find an option anymore to show messages as threaded.  anybody know how to do this?
[22:31] <_gunni_> tZo: mom, i will look for some infos on wubi, but i think its just a exe on the cd you can download (or maybe the one you already got)
[22:31] <tanjir> i read this girl dropped off from her skool bcoz she bought a ubuntu installed dell laptop and could not install microsoft office :P
[22:32] <tanjir> AND could not run setup.exe file for her internet :P
[22:32] <_gunni_> tZo: http://wubi-installer.org/
[22:32] <tZo> ok then i'll try to run an live cd and hope it will everything work and thanks for the link _gunni_
[22:33] <leanne> is there any one who can help me i am trying to upgrade my distro and i cant find a way im running kubuntu 7.04
[22:35] <genii> leanne: 7.04 is an intermediate release. To get to 8.04 you have to 7.04->7.10->8.04
[22:36] <leanne> oky how am i going to do it
[22:36] <leanne> cause from the adept manager im getting no updates or upgrades
[22:36] <tZo> _gunni_:  but with this wubi-installer it works like an live cd , what i mean if is there any hardware that linux doesn't see it or doesn't has any driver , so won't work ... or it will work because they are installed on windows
[22:37] <tZo> _gunni_:  i'm installing now kubuntu with wubi
[22:37] <genii> leanne: More info here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades    is Ubuntu-centric and not Kubuntu but same underlying method works for all of them
[22:38] <_gunni_> tZo: It really installs on your system, but it installs in a folder in your windows, so you wont mess your partitions
[22:38] <_gunni_> You have to reboot to use ubuntu then i think
[22:38] <tZo> ok , the other question is , when the pc starts it will ask me what os i wanna use? or it will boot on windows then i will could start using kubuntu?
[22:39] <_gunni_> So the only difference to a "real" installation is the place on harddisk, and the disk performance is slower because of the installation on the windows harddisk
[22:39] <_gunni_> tZo: On boot you should be prompted for the system you want to boot
[22:39] <tZo> ah yes for the moment its just i wanna learn it in someway and when i'll be ready i'll try it on my hard disk
[22:40] <tZo> ok _gunni_ ..
[22:40] <tZo> thanks _gunni_
[22:40] <leanne> im not getting any update im walking with the walktrough
[22:40] <_gunni_> tZo: afaik it adds an option to the windows boot manager, but not sure
[22:41] <tZo> so then , the effects should work or?
[22:42] <Adam_Tech> Hey
[22:42] <Adam_Tech> I got Java working
[22:45] <Adam_Tech> tanjir: Igot Java working
[22:46] <Adam_Tech> * hmm
[22:46] <afancy> Hi, i have USB,and have downloaded the *.iso file. how to install kubuntu without CD
[22:48] <denger> hi
[22:49] <keith_> I am runnng 9.04 and am having a problem that seems to be Plasma related, though I am not very familiar with KDE. Sometimes when I try to open programs, it looks like they are opening but they never do... then if I try again to open it, Plasma seems to freeze so that I can't click the panel or move any of the widgets. Is this a known problem? Is there a work around?
[22:49] <afancy> Hi, i have USB,and have downloaded the *.iso file. how to install kubuntu without CD
[22:49] <Adam_Tech> you can't
[22:50] <Adam_Tech> you need a CD inorder to use the live cd
[22:50] <Adam_Tech> and you need the live cd to install
[22:51] <afancy> Adam_Tech: why
[22:52] <Adam_Tech> and run it like a cd from that program
[22:52] <Adam_Tech> what are you using as on os now?
[22:53] <leanne> some one help me up please cause im going crazy on the update stuff
[23:00] <glencarbonil> afancy you could try wubi-ubuntu and run it under windows
[23:01] <glencarbonil> beside windows but it installs in windows
[23:02] <leanne> updates on kubuntu 7.04 wont work i cant get the upgrade to work the icon is greyed out
[23:09] <kde4tester> .j #kde
[23:15] <_gunni_> afancy: I heard of a possibilty to install from a usb stick, maybe i can find it again
[23:16] <afancy> _gunni_: ok, thanks
[23:16] <_gunni_> Was easy: google ubuntu usb gave me #1 hit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[23:16] <_gunni_> Ok, exact search was "ubuntu usb stick"
[23:17] <choser> hi
[23:18] <choser> alguien que hable español?
[23:19] <_gunni_> !es |choser
[23:21] <choser> ok gracias por la ayuda
[23:21] <afancy> _gunni_: that is useless. I have tried today, as it need network connection. However, here I only have wireless connection, so it is imposssible use the liveCD
[23:22] <afancy> _gunni_: that soluution is appable to the environment with wired coneection
[23:22] <afancy> _gunni_: not applicable to wireless coneection
[23:24] <glencarbonil> is there a good program for copying dvds with ubuntu?
[23:27] <genii> glencarbonil: K3B has been pretty good for me
[23:27] <genii> I'm even able to do blu-ray
[23:28] <glencarbonil> genii can i get that in add remove programs
[23:28] <genii> glencarbonil: If you are using Kubuntu (not regular Ubuntu) it should have been installed by default
[23:29] <genii> (seeing as we are in the #kubuntu and not #ubuntu support channel here...)
[23:29] <glencarbonil> i got ubuntu 8.04 hardy herring
[23:30] <glencarbonil> heron not herring
[23:31] <genii> glencarbonil: You might want to ask for support in #ubuntu then :)
[23:31] <glencarbonil> I will look for k3b thanks
[23:32] <X9nLinuxL> hi.  How can the 'info' that shows up in the yellow box (when putting the cursor over a file) be changed?
[23:35] <BusError> I have accidentaly activated sticky keys, I can't type anything, even my password to unlock the bleeping screen
[23:35] <BusError> how can I reset my keyboard ?
[23:41] <glencarbonil> buserror try holding down both shift keys or cntrl and shift at the same time
[23:41] <Asymmetry> Has anyone had any dealings with Jockey and NVIDIA drivers? I activate the driver, and... well, it doesn't. It changes the X configuration, but the driver never gets loaded.