[00:00] <jrib> ^Mike: also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh#function
[00:00] <MathCubes_> @Dr_willis I tr to re wight it it says it is write-protected,
[00:00] <Dr_willis> ^Mike,  id just make a shells script called 'e' in the bin dir.
[00:00] <Dr_willis> MathCubes_,  try to write to it with what exactly?
[00:01] <jrib> ^Mike: if you need bashisms then either check that you're in bash (see /etc/profile for an example of how) or use /etc/bash.bashrc
[00:01] <MathCubes_> I try to rewight all the bits that has a 1 into
[00:01] <MathCubes_> 0
[00:02] <Dr_willis> MathCubes_,  try to rewrite with WHAT APP?
[00:02] <MathCubes_> k3b and the terminal
[00:03] <Dr_willis> brassero has a 'blank the cd' item in its menu
[00:03] <Dr_willis> do NOT mount the disk befor trying to blank it.
[00:05] <Dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[00:05] <Dr_willis> To reuse a rewritable CD or DVD you first need to 'blank' the disk. This erases the old data and prepares the disk for new data.
[00:05] <Dr_willis>     wodim -vv dev=/dev/cdrw blank=all
[00:05] <MathCubes_> I tried that
[00:05] <^Mike> jrib: Thanks for the tip. Looks like another bashism is the word "function"
[00:05] <humo0915> Can anyone help me please, after my laptod lid is opened the screen stays black with no response at all, it only happens when lid is closed and then opened
[00:06] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/07/02/one-click-erase-of-cd-rw-dvd-rw-rewritable-discs-in-ubuntu/
[00:06] <MathCubes_> I trI did it
[00:06] <MathCubes_> thank you and bye
[00:07] <Dr_willis> humo0915,  so if you close it and then never open it - it dosent stay black? or am i confused here as to that last bit.
[00:11] <Atlantis> Hello!
[00:11] <curatrix> Hi
[00:12] <humo0915> sorry english is not my native language, What I meaned is that it doesnt happen when you leave the laptop open for a long time and it goes to sleep
[00:12] <Atlantis> One, second. Did my colour change?
[00:12] <Atlantis> Nope, it didn't..
[00:13] <allan_> Oi
[00:13] <Atlantis> FUSRODAU
[00:13] <Dr_willis> Atlantis,  why would you think the color would change?
[00:13]  * curatrix grabs Atlantis  by the arm and calls out "found you"
[00:13] <Atlantis> Becuause I thought I'd changed it in settings...
[00:13] <Dr_willis> humo0915,  so you mean to say the laptop 'crashes' when you close the lid - instead of suspending?
[00:13] <Dr_willis> Atlantis,  irc dosent really work that way
[00:14] <Atlantis> Okay....
[00:14] <Dr_willis> MY client uses the colors I tell it to. :)  i dont see what you set.
[00:14]  * Dr_willis colors Atlantis  hot puce.
[00:14] <Atlantis> curatrix... Ummm, hi!
[00:15] <majdi> my opt folder is missing after the latest update to ubuntu 12.04, anyone with this problem?
[00:15] <Atlantis> What is hot puce?
[00:15] <Dr_willis> a light red color. would you perfer lime green?
[00:16] <curatrix> majdi: Are you sure that you are looking in /    ?
[00:16] <Atlantis> Maybe it's becuase I'm on Xchat (an aplication version) but I don't see a difference...
[00:16] <Atlantis> But, I like the light red!
[00:16] <Dr_willis> Atlantis,  im not even sure what you are expecting. Xchat has color themes and settings that you would see on your end. we dont see what colors you set your client to use
[00:16] <allan_> no problem dual booting?
[00:17] <Dr_willis> allan_,  err.. No. none here.
[00:17] <Atlantis> Okay...
[00:17] <allan_> Dr_willis windows 8 and ubuntu ?
[00:17] <allan_> have a problem?
[00:17] <Dr_willis> allan_,  i dont use windows 8 - others in here have done it befor.
[00:18] <majdi> @ curatrix, yes did a search, it gone, I've never experienced this before, very strange, but it broke some of my apps
[00:18] <allan_> Willis you speak portuguese?
[00:18] <curatrix> majdi: To be honest. The first thing that comes to mind is a hardware failure (most likely in the HDD)
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> allan_, You read the uefi wiki?
[00:19] <Atlantis> Hello everyone!
[00:19] <BabyCat> sdfa\
[00:19] <allan_> No
[00:19] <Atlantis> One second...
[00:20] <majdi> curatrix: everything else is running OK
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | allan_
[00:20] <Atlantis> I have no idea what I'm doing...
[00:20] <allan_> Thanks
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> allan_, I am assuming this is a oem W8 if so it is a uefi gpt setup
[00:22] <dalrog> Hi all. How do I prevent drive device names from changing? If I reboot with phone plugged into USB, my external HD changes from /dev/sdb to /dev/sde. Can these be set to be permanent somehow? Thanks.
[00:22] <allan_> I'm speak portuguese =l
[00:23] <curatrix> majdi: If you dont mind ....Can we double check that /opt is missing?  Please open the file manager and click on file system on the left.
[00:24] <majdi> curatrix: done that, its not there
[00:25] <curatrix> majdi: Does firefox/chromium work?
[00:26] <Dr_willis> dalrog,  they change. thats the reason that the uuid is normally used in /etc/fstab
[00:27] <Dr_willis> dalrog,  if the device/filesysem has a label it should auto mount to /media/whatever/label name  and stay that way
[00:27] <majdi> curatrix: yes, I did a sudo find / -name 'opt' -type d, and got /var/opt, /etc/opt. but contents of these opt folders are different than my root opt or /opt folder
[00:27] <Dr_willis> !uuid
[00:28] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know what is the difference between libreoffice and openofice?
[00:28] <mojtaba> *openoffice?
[00:28] <Dr_willis> mojtaba,  openoffice sort of got killed/ruined and became libreoffice
[00:29] <dalrog> Dr_willis: the drives are mounted with truecrypt later so they don't have any mount points in fstab
[00:29] <mojtaba> Dr_willis: Thanks
[00:29] <K1rk> mojtaba, personally I prefer LibreOffice.
[00:29] <K1rk> mojtaba, LibreOffice is basically a fork of OpenOffice, from the original developers.
[00:29] <K1rk> mojtaba, OpenOffice is now "owned" by the Apache Software Foundation.
[00:31] <majdi> curatrix: yes, both firefox and chrom work
[00:32] <curatrix> majdi:  Not many things use the /opt directory (google earth is one of the few). Is google earth installed?
[00:34] <majdi> curatrix: don’t have google earth installed, but I had prezi installed and its not working now, also had a samsung printer driver, both using the opt folder and they both not working now
[00:35] <mojtaba> I have made a backup using ubuntu's default backup system (deja du, or whatever), How can I ensure the backup has been made and is ok?
[00:36] <majdi> curatrix: not sure what has caused this? any way of finding out? can i see what the last backup did to my files?
[00:38] <resultant_fierce> I have a question on keyboard configuration, if anyone is an expert on that
[00:39] <Dr_willis> just ask the question and see who answers resultant_fierce . also check askubuntu.com
[00:39] <resultant_fierce> thanks.
[00:39] <curatrix> majdi: opt is storage for software add-ons. I  am guessing that the upgrade has wiped it to ensure that the system has no compatibility issues.  If you backed up prior to the upgrade you should be able to retrieve the lost folder, but I dont think anything in there will work wth the new system.
[00:40] <Dr_willis> i cant recall ever seeing or hearing of the apt package maanger touching stuff in /opt/
[00:40] <Dr_willis> its possible some other updates broke software that is in /opt/ but i wouldent think apt would remove anything from it.
[00:41] <curatrix> majdi: It will require reinstalling prezi and anything you were using
[00:41] <fictionalhippo> Hello, ia there anyone online that can help me with a wireless adapter issue?
[00:41] <curatrix> Dr_willis: Neither have I. Usually it is the opposite with linux ......you end up with a load of crud that cant be used
[00:42] <resultant_fierce> I'm running gnome shell, and I have the super key configured to launch the activities overview - by default.  For emacs, I've reconfigured capslock to be the control.  I'd like to use the right alt-key as the meta key.  Under the keyboard options I can set up the alt keys to be meta - under "Alt and Meta are on alt-keys", but this doesn't work in a terminal window.  If I attempt to hit alt+v for meta+v, I instead end up in the 'V
[00:43] <fictionalhippo> Does anyone know how to get the Belkin n600 wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu?
[00:44] <fictionalhippo> Does anyone know how to get the Belkin n600 wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu?
[00:44] <goddard> my laptop shuts down when playing games
[00:44] <majdi> Dr_willis: there is no opt folder after the update
[00:45] <Dr_willis> majdi,  outout of ls -ld /opt   shows what?
[00:46] <majdi> Dr_willis: No such file or directory
[00:46] <resultant_fierce> goddard: is it just a specific game?
[00:47] <majdi> Dr_willis: is there a way I can check if the update manager removed the opt folder?
[00:47] <fictionalhippo> Does anyone know how to get the Belkin n600 wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu?
[00:50] <Dr_willis> majdi,   not that i know of.. apt shouldent be removeing directories like that
[00:51] <majdi> Dr_willis: any way to check if it was deleted?
[00:51] <curatrix> majdi: try looking in /var/log/
[00:52] <Tiweh> Ok will try.
[00:53] <curatrix> majdi: sorry   /var/log/at
[00:53] <Dr_willis>  /var/log/apt  ;)
[00:53] <curatrix>  /var/log/apt
[00:53] <curatrix> lol ty Dr
[00:53] <Dr_willis> look in /lost+found also  ;P
[00:54] <Dr_willis> i would think it more likely the fs got currupted. and fscking moved /opt/ then apt moveing it.
[00:55] <Tiweh> My ubuntu non pes install is bootin to tty. No GUi.
[00:55] <Tiweh> pae
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, I could not for the life of me figure out that ./install in  root on that tar, lol
[00:58] <amyassin> my laptop has temperature problem since I installed Raring.. Does anyone got that?
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> no biggie. ;)
[00:59] <fictionalhippo> Can someone please help me with a wireless adapter issue?
[00:59] <bazhang> !wifi | fictionalhippo have a read first
[01:00] <equus> fictionalhippo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[01:00] <amyassin> I can't find something about temperature problem in Raring
[01:01] <majdi> Dr_wills: can i check a log for fscking?
[01:01] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  install what ./install? if the tar extracts and makes a  ~/theapp2.0/theappinstaller   you would cd theapp2.0 then ./theappinstaller
[01:01] <Dr_willis> majdi,  i dont even know if fsck keeps a log.
[01:01] <Dr_willis> majdi,  if fsck moved stuff it would be in /lost+found
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, There is a read, and it says ./install run as root, and there is a text called install, here is the web info, all a bit beyond my skills. http://www.firetrust.com/en/products/mailwasher-enterprise-server/support/linux-installation-instructions#installation
[01:03] <majdi> Dr_willis: nothing in /lost+found and nothing showing in /var/log/apt that might have caused this
[01:03] <Dr_willis> wilee-nilee,  so you just do a 'cd wheevertheinstallfileisat'  then 'sudo ./install'
[01:04] <Dr_willis> cd mwes-xxxx   (replace xxx with the right numbers)   then    sudo ./install
[01:05] <majdi> Dr_willis: any way to detect if the fs is corrupted?
[01:05] <Dr_willis> majdi,  boot live cd, and run fsck on it  would check it
[01:06] <majdi> Dr_willis: will do, thanks a lot
[01:06] <majdi> curatrix: thank you to
[01:07] <majdi> Dr_willis: can I just create the opt folder if no fix for this?
[01:07] <curatrix> majdi: np. Sorry I couldnt have been more help. :)
[01:07] <Dr_willis> majdi,  reinstall your apps if you want to use them.   i dont see what making a empty /opt/ directory will help. :)   assuming cd /opt/  shows its truely not there.
[01:08] <Dr_willis> cd /opt   does give back 'file not found'  ?
[01:09] <amyassin> So I'm guessing nobody had such a problem...
[01:09] <JoshMcCullough> hey all
[01:09] <majdi> Dr_willis:  cd /opt
[01:09] <majdi> bash: cd: /opt: No such file or directory
[01:09] <JoshMcCullough> whats a good webcam server?
[01:09] <Dr_willis> amyassin,  askubuntu.com has a great many people with fan and overheating issues in various releases.
[01:11] <majdi> thank you all
[01:16] <RobertBColton> guys i need help
[01:16] <RobertBColton> i installed virtualbox
[01:16] <RobertBColton> and it fuckin crashed my network driver
[01:16] <RobertBColton> idk wtf is wrong
[01:16] <amyassin> Dr_willis: thanks.. I'll check 'em
[01:16] <RobertBColton> the internet was workign fine for it and the host
[01:16] <RobertBColton> then i shut off virutalbox and restarted
[01:16] <RobertBColton> nothing
[01:17] <RobertBColton> nada
[01:17] <RobertBColton> zilch my fuckin internet wont work
[01:17] <RobertBColton> someone pls help ~
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> !language | RobertBColton
[01:18] <RobertBColton> help !
[01:19] <bazhang> RobertBColton, be patient
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> Dr_willis, Thanks I git the tar installed it was a beta so was not running right so just removed it.
[01:20] <RobertBColton> this is rediculous though
[01:20] <RobertBColton> installing virtualbox should not be so dangerous as to fux my network
[01:20] <bazhang> RobertBColton, stop the cursing
[01:20] <thinclient> RobertColton: try this in terminal:  sudo dhclient eth0
[01:21] <RobertBColton> thinclient: file exists.
[01:22] <thinclient> did it revive your network?  (ps that was a zero in eth0).
[01:22] <RobertBColton> thinclient: no it did not that was all it said
[01:22] <RobertBColton> RTNETLINKI answers: File exists
[01:23] <RobertBColton> thinclient: so now what?
[01:24] <thinclient> RoberBColton: not sure sorry. Hopefully someone here has a solution.
[01:25] <thinclient> RobertBColton:  Did you install virtualbox from apt-get or elsewhere?
[01:25] <RobertBColton> thinclient: ubuntu software center
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> RobertBColton, You looked in settings-network-advanced and the cable connected is ticked?
[01:27] <CodeWar> I installed the latest NVIDIA driver and am getting butt kicked since then. Anyways, uninstalled it and am back to the nvidia-current on Ubuntu. But it appears libGL.so.1 has disappeared. Is there a way for me to install a 64bit version of this file?
[01:27] <CodeWar> the NVIDIA uninstaller took it out and now Unity does not work
[01:28] <RobertBColton> wilee-nilee: yes i can ping google.com from terminal with only 4% packet loss
[01:29] <RobertBColton> CodeWar: probably need to reinstall the open source drivers :P
[01:35] <thetinyjesus> RobertBColton, hey im looking into the issue check this out
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> RobertBColton, I always install virtualbox from them and add the extension on that page  and add my self to the users, and it works fine, not sure if the version in the software center is different, I also install the guest additions.
[01:36] <thetinyjesus> in sudo nano /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[01:36] <thetinyjesus> do you have 2 lines almost exactly the same with NAME="eth0"
[01:38] <wilee-nilee> RobertBColton, There is #vbox as well for more help.
[01:38] <thetinyjesus> RobertBColton,  https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=7749
[01:39] <thetinyjesus> its older but it seems that VB may have setup a different MAC address
[01:39] <mangomania> I'm trying to install 12.04 (single boot) on a Macbook 3,1 using this article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation . It says to select "msdos" for the partition table, but it says GPT is required for EFI just a few sentences before that. Which one do I need?
[01:43] <fictionalhippo> Ok, I've run the lsusb command and it tells me Bus 001 Device 003: ID 050d:110a Belkin components. This is a wireless adapter for network and i can't seem to get it working. Anyone know info about it?
[01:43] <RobertBColton> u know
[01:43] <RobertBColton> i've had it
[01:43] <RobertBColton> nothing on linux works right
[01:43] <RobertBColton> im just going back to windows
[01:43] <FloodBot1> RobertBColton: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <RobertBColton> i was able to use ubuntu fine for several months
[01:43] <thetinyjesus> have fun, guess you didnt bother to read what we sent you
[01:43] <RobertBColton> but its canonical, and their udpates, seriously freakin deadly
[01:43] <RobertBColton> i cant put up with this crap
[01:43] <bazhang> RobertBColton, thats enough
[01:44] <RobertBColton> thetinyjesus: even you do fix this, it doesn't matter, canonical brain dead swill just release more broken updates
[01:44] <RobertBColton> this is the gazillionth time something has gone wrong from updates
[01:44] <thetinyjesus> pretty strange because i've never had my computer break from an update, only me messing something up
[01:44] <fictionalhippo> I did read what you sent me. I'm just providing more information so possibly someone out there could possibly put it in more a more easier term to understand.
[01:45] <thetinyjesus> fictionalhippo, wasn't to you man, was to robert
[01:46] <fictionalhippo> Oh may bad thetinyjesus, came back at the wrong time i guess.
[01:46] <thetinyjesus> fictionalhippo, have you tried googling your specific wireless card ?
[01:48] <equus> fictionalhippo,    lspci                      will probably  show you that your   card is a broadcom chip
[01:52] <thetinyjesus> what exact wireless card is it?
[01:56] <iShotz> Anyone know where I can get AMD drivers for Xubuntu?
[01:56] <danny4way> Hi. I have an error. I can't software update. Whenever I use update manager, it just started to load and shows error saying "failed to download repository information" and below that it says "Check your internet connection
[01:58] <danny4way> Plus I have my internet connection.
[01:58] <OerHeks> danny4way, what ubuntu version ?
[01:59] <danny4way> 13.04
[01:59] <danny4way> I've tried many things. I tried to change server from Untied States to Main Server. It doesn't work.
[01:59] <danny4way> I tried best server too. IT still doesn't work.
[01:59] <thetinyjesus> did you try going to select best server in that menu?
[01:59] <OerHeks> danny4way, try changing the mirror
[02:00] <danny4way> Can you tell me how to change mirror?
[02:01] <OerHeks> open softwarecenter > top panel > edit > sources
[02:03] <Guest65691> hi everyone, I'm having an issue installing a usb wireless adapter on my desktop. It is running ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[02:04] <danny4way> OerHeks, now which mirror do you want me to choose?
[02:04] <danny4way> Because I've tried everything.
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> Guest65691, Can you run lsusb and identify it
[02:04] <Guest65691> yes I can
[02:05] <Guest65691> I have the device ID and all
[02:05] <Guest65691> I found a driver online and used ndiswrapper to install it but got an error in the install
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> tell the channel not me
[02:05] <Guest65691> sorry
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> Guest65691, Any and all details including errors go a long way'
[02:06] <Guest65691> how do I tell the channel haha I'm new to irc
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> Guest65691, I meant in general tell the channel unless you use my nick I assume you telling the channel.
[02:07] <OerHeks> danny4way, close softwarecenter/sources, open terminal and run " sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade " # and use paste.ubuntu.com for the output please
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> Guest65691, Just staing the info means to the channel, if someone answers use there nick when answering.
[02:07] <taotao> Hello
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> stating
[02:07] <Guest65691> ah, i understand
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> cool. ;)
[02:08] <Guest65691> wilee-nilee, when I run "sudo ndiswrapper -i bcmn43xx64.inf", it outputs "couldn't find SourceDiskFiles section - continuing anyway..."
[02:09] <danny4way> OerHeks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923786/
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> Guest65691, What I left out here was I know very little about that, but know that details work for help.
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | Guest65691 here is a wiki
[02:11] <OerHeks> danny4way, i see, https://launchpad.net/~dr3mro/+archive/nautilus-actions-extra has no raring packages, remove that ppa and update will run fine
[02:11] <Guest65691> thanks everyone!
[02:11] <Guest65691> I'll check it out
[02:11] <danny4way> And how do i remove that ppa?
[02:12] <OerHeks> !ppa-purge
[02:12] <danny4way> Please explain to me in details because I just install ubuntu on my laptop a few months ago.
[02:12] <danny4way> Thank you.
[02:12] <OerHeks> or just disable it in sources, but then you will keep those old files.
[02:13] <OerHeks> as it never had packages, ppa purge will be safe
[02:14] <danny4way> Please give me a minute. Thank you.
[02:14] <OerHeks> danny there seems to be an active ppa for those nautilus actions > https://launchpad.net/~nae-team/+archive/ppa
[02:15] <danny4way> Installing command doesn't work.
[02:16] <OerHeks> sudo ppa-purge ppa:dr3mro/nautilus-actions-extra
[02:18] <danny4way> Oh. I thought I can install using command "sudo apt-get install ppa-purge"
[02:18] <danny4way> So I did.
[02:18] <danny4way> And the command you just gave me doesn't work.
[02:19] <OerHeks> ppa-purge is installed default, not?
[02:19] <danny4way> I don't know.
[02:20] <danny4way> But when i type in your command you just gave me, this is what i got.
[02:20] <danny4way> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923809/
[02:21] <sokky_> hello all, any ecrypt pros here?
[02:21] <varunendra> OerHeks, on my 12.04, ppa-purge is not installed by default. Interesting program by the way :)
[02:22] <OerHeks> varunendra, ah i see, that makes it a little harder
[02:23] <varunendra> OerHeks, I just glanced at my IRC client, but can't they just use "apt-get install --print-uris ppa-purge" to get the manual download links to the required packages?
[02:24] <varunendra> so they can install it manually if the normal apt operations are problematic..
[02:24] <danny4way> OerHeks, is there any other solution?
[02:25] <danny4way> The command isn't working. And I can't remove ppa. Well, I mean I might be able to but I don't know how. Please instruct me.
[02:25] <danny4way> I am very new to ubuntu and it's very unlike like windows.
[02:25] <varunendra> OerHeks, just curious, does this program also has the option to re-enable the PPAs?
[02:26] <OerHeks> as alternative solution, disable that ppa in software sources, just unmark, not remove, and run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade # and then install ppa-purge
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> I would have them run a apt-get update a broken package maybe
[02:27] <OerHeks> renenable the ppaś  again, and you can fully remove, but hey, that ppa had never packages, so i think removing the list only works too
[02:27] <OerHeks> ppa packages do not survive upgrade, afaik
[02:27] <danny4way> Yeah. Since I don't know about Ubuntu, I just have to listen whatever you have to say.
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Can you run sud apt-get update and pastebin the results.
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> sudo*
[02:28] <danny4way> no I can't
[02:28] <danny4way> It just shows errors.
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, I want to swe the eroors
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> see*
[02:29] <danny4way> Okay. HOld on.
[02:30] <OerHeks> he pasted it a while back
[02:30] <danny4way> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923843/
[02:30] <danny4way> Here
[02:31] <sendaljepit> firewall
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Run gksudo nautilus your in root now be careful go to computer etc/apt/sources.list.d open it and delete those ppa 's then run a upadate again
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> close all that before running the update
[02:35] <danny4way> wilee-nilee, what do you mean by run gksudo nautilus?
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, In the terminal it will open your root so you can delete thise ppa's\
[02:36] <nmittal> hello.. ppl.. just installed ubuntu 13.04.. its using the default nouveu driver for graphics.. how can i switch it to the intel driver which also seems to be installed
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, When someone says run here it means in a terminal, unless they say where.
[02:36] <nmittal> i have this onboard vga chip "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)"
[02:37] <danny4way> wilee-nilee, should i install gksudo?
[02:37] <danny4way> It says gksudo is currently not installed. you can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gksu
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, I guess so I forgot that needed to be installed, you will actually see only a put in trash rather than delete I forgot I set my system to bypass trash. However as suggested by the others you can remove theses from another place or untick them.
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, i CAN GET YOU THERE IT MAY BE EASIER.
[02:39] <danny4way> Okay. So I just go to computer then etc then apt then sources.list.d
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> opps sorry for the caps
[02:40] <danny4way> That's okay
[02:40] <danny4way> And i See two files inside sources.list.d
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Cool in that atre the text files you can just open them and put a # at the front of the http
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> are*
[02:41] <danny4way> which one should I open?
[02:41] <danny4way> There are two files.
[02:41] <danny4way> or should I open both?
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Just open the text and put a # in front of the text there, open the ones I think they are both the same except for 32 bit and 64 bit.
[02:42] <Guest65691> wilee-nilee and ubottu, thanks for the help! Your articles helped me. I have internet on my desktop. Have a great night
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> after the # hit the save and close them.
[02:42] <HypnotiX> hello, i am trying to upgrade ubuntu to 13.04 and i get this error: the attempt to mount a file system with type swap in SCS12 (0,0,0), patition 6 sdb at none failed.
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> Guest65691, cool.
[02:42] <danny4way> they already have # in front of them by itself
[02:43] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  perhaps you have an invalid swap partion defined in /etc/fstab
[02:43] <reisio> HypnotiX: it's normal attempting such a thing should fail, but not that it should be attempted in the first place
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, take a screenshot of that
[02:43] <Guest65691> nick ThePoppyMan
[02:43] <Guest65691> fa
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | danny4way
[02:43] <HypnotiX> reisio: what should i do then
[02:43] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  you dont really mount swap partitions anyway.  so that errro/message could be just a red herring.
[02:43] <reisio> HypnotiX: figure out why it's trying to mount a swap partition
[02:43] <amyassin> I'm new here, is ubottu a human or a bot?
[02:44] <HypnotiX> i want to keep windows 7 also
[02:44] <Dr_willis> uBOTu
[02:44] <Dr_willis> !bot
[02:44] <reisio> amyassin: the most annoying bot ever
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> lol
[02:44] <danny4way> wilee-nilee, Okay
[02:44] <ThePoppyMan> yerp
[02:44] <amyassin> lol cool
[02:44] <HypnotiX> reisio: im a linux noob i dont really know how to find that out :)
[02:45] <HypnotiX> Dr_willis: so i should just ignore it
[02:45] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  is the tool failing to work? or just spitting out a message and going on?
[02:46] <reisio> ubottu: prove to the channel that you are annoying
[02:46] <reisio> thanks pal
[02:46] <Woofcat> Is there a channel for ubuntu edge discussion?
[02:46] <HypnotiX> Dr_willis: i will findout right now :)
[02:47] <reisio> Woofcat: it's -touch I believe
[02:47] <Dr_willis> !edge
[02:47] <danny4way> wilee-nilee, http://imagebin.org/265856
[02:47] <reisio> Woofcat: /msg alis list *buntu*
[02:47] <danny4way> here is the screenshot of the first file.
[02:47] <Woofcat> Thanks reisio
[02:48] <HypnotiX> so is 13.04 stable enough yet?
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Cool if they both have the # and you are still getting those errors on a update  we can see if you have those PPA's in the regular sources.list
[02:48] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  depends on the details.. stable enough for what? i have no issues with 13.04
[02:49] <danny4way> Wait. No
[02:49] <danny4way> Only first file has # in the front
[02:49] <danny4way> Second file which ends with .save doesn't have # in the front.
[02:49] <HypnotiX> well for example i installed 12.04 yesterday and my video drivers werent working properly, my max resolution was set to 1024
[02:49] <Dr_willis> video card/driver issues can be very dependent on the exact version of the drivers, and kernel. and xorg.
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Cool put the # in the other hit save close all that the terminal last and run the sudo apt-get update and look for errors.
[02:49] <danny4way> And When i tried to add # in the front, it says save as, So I tried but it says its read only
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, You opened both from the same pathway
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Ah one is a save, I would just send both to trash, very small data no biggie.
[02:51] <danny4way> But I can't save it now. The other one that ends with .save, when i try to save with # in the front, it tells me to replace it.
[02:51] <HypnotiX> Dr_willis: the installer doesnt seem to be moving, it says removing conflicting operating system files and no progress
[02:52] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  i rarely upgrade. i find clean installs faster these days
[02:52] <danny4way> And when i click on replace, it says "Could not save the file /etc/apt/sources.list.d/...ns-extra-raring.list.save.
[02:52] <HypnotiX> alright ill try that
[02:52] <danny4way> And it says under that "You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again.
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Just close that text with no save and right click both and send to trash, close the folder and the popup then the terminal and open another and run sudo apt-get update
[02:53] <danny4way> wilee-nilee, you want me to send both of those files into trash?
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Yes.
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> root trash no biggie they are tiny
[02:53] <danny4way> Oh okay.  I will try it.
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> not the most elegant fix, but in this circumstance it works.
[02:54] <danny4way> It won't let me send to trash
[02:54] <savagejen> Well installing Mir has magically made my system super slow
[02:55] <savagejen> either that or the keyboard
[02:55] <speed> hai
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, So if you close al that and then the terminal and run a update again in a new terminal see if you still see the errors on that ppa.
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> savagejen, Had to be a PPA and not supported
[02:56] <thinclient> Know a tiny browser that supports flash and javascript?
[02:56] <thinclient> and i mean tiny.
[02:56] <Dr_willis> a tiny browser to run huge bloated flash. ;)
[02:57] <Dr_willis> midori perhaps.
[02:57] <RaveYoda> Hey guys, I need to know the group name for mounting devices such as usbs, cds, dvds, etc. My user can't mount stuff normally
[02:57] <danny4way> Final sentence says "reading package lists ... Done
[02:57] <danny4way> It seems like it's okay now.
[02:57] <savagejen> wilee-nilee, I used this guide
[02:57] <savagejen> http://unity.ubuntu.com/mir/
[02:58] <Dr_willis> mir is very much in testing. im not suprised it would be slow.
[02:58] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Cool, it was hard to tell from here if you had shut off the ppa in another place, at least for me with so many posts.
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, The last update you showed showed those still there.
[02:59] <danny4way> I really don't understand what caused this.
[02:59] <danny4way> And it's not working again.
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, post all the text in a pastebin
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> wilee-nilee, and post cat /etc/apt/sources.list as well.
[03:00] <sp2> is there a simple usenet app for pure text, no GUI?
[03:00] <danny4way> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923904/
[03:01] <danny4way> I actually want to run this command. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923906/
[03:02] <danny4way> But whenever I try to run sudo apt-get update, it just start to show http://paste.ubuntu.com/5923904 error
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, You running 13.04?
[03:02] <danny4way> Yep
[03:02] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, There is no release in that ppa for raring
[03:03] <danny4way> Meaning?
[03:03] <danny4way> Those following commands aren't compatible with 13.04 yet?
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, raring is 13.04 there is nothing in that ppa for raring only up to 12.04.
[03:04] <afotek> Is there any safe way to work with NTFS? NTFS-3G messed up my FS last time.
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Not commands but packages.
[03:04] <danny4way> Yeah. So they aren't just compatible yet.
[03:04] <danny4way> So if i want to work with other packages, it will sure work. Right?
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, I thought you were just trying to get rid of the ppa.
[03:05] <danny4way> No. I was actually trying to use following commands
[03:05] <danny4way> But whenver I use sudo apt-get update, it get stuck with errors.
[03:05] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, Can't guarantee anything PPA's are considered unstable and basically not supported.
[03:05] <brucewhealton_> Hello all... was looking for some help with ubuntu server 13.04 and installing an app called owncloud
[03:06] <danny4way> Oh and it's not working again.
[03:06] <brucewhealton_> I did this using apt-get but it didn't create any databases
[03:06] <danny4way> It was working the first time  I tried sudo apt-get update
[03:06] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, You keep making rookie mistakes. Never add a ppa unless you check that bthere are packages that support your release.
[03:06] <danny4way> NOw it shows the same thing as before.
[03:06] <ciao> ciao
[03:06] <brucewhealton_> I don't know if when you install with apt-get it uses sqlite or if the software doesn't use a db
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, That PPA never worked.
[03:07] <danny4way> Sorry. I dont know. Because I was a windows user
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> in 13.04
[03:07] <ciao> ciao!list
[03:07] <brucewhealton_> or maybe I have to install a db myself and somehow links that with the owncloud installation
[03:07] <brucewhealton_> any ideas?
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> danny4way, No biggie, you turned off that ppa before how did you do it?
[03:08] <mrdeb> hi. if u install chrome on ubuntu lts, does it include pdf viewer and pepper flash
[03:08] <mrdeb> ??
[03:08] <danny4way> LIke going to software setting then remove that package?
[03:08] <savagejen> alright, does anyone know how to disable mir once you've enabled it?
[03:08] <danny4way> I just did and it's still loading.
[03:08] <yahyaa> can someone please help me???
[03:08] <brucewhealton_> the page comes up ok and the recommended installation was with apt-get but I cannot figure out if the software needs a db or not?
[03:08] <danny4way> Yeah. It's working now.
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> mrdeb, flash yes a pdf reader not sure.
[03:08] <yahyaa> I am trying to burn an audio cd but k3b keeps crashing everytime I try to add the music I want, when I attempt to run a back trace this is what it says "Application: K3b (k3b), signal: Segmentation fault"
[03:09] <hal14450> forums still down eh? I was hoping for a more detailed explanation as to what happened. Does anyone happen to have any info or links?
[03:09] <mrdeb> ok wilee-nilee , so can i delete firefox and put chrome on
[03:09] <yahyaa> It was working fine about a week ago, but now it keeps crashing, please help!!!
[03:09] <danny4way> Thank you. So yeah. How do i check if the package is supported for my release?
[03:09] <casshern> hola
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> mrdeb, I would leave firefox one never knows, and install chrome if you want.
[03:09] <casshern> hello
[03:09] <RaveYoda> Does anyone know the group name for mounting devices such as usbs, cds, dvds, etc. My user can't mount stuff normally
[03:09] <joshu> is this the preferred way to make a directory read-only, "   mount --bind /foo /foo-share; mount -o remount,ro /foo-freerdp-share"
[03:09] <somsip> RaveYoda: plugdev ?
[03:09] <zeest> Hello. I know a partition dumped with dd can be mounted, but can it be resized?
[03:10] <RaveYoda> And how do I add a user to this?
[03:11] <casshern> can someone please, with what app, i can play games on linux besides wine and playonlinux? thanks
[03:11] <Dr_willis> zeest,  i belive it can.
[03:11] <zeest> Dr_willis: do you know how?
[03:11] <Dr_willis> casshern,  play native linux games..
[03:11] <RaveYoda> just type sudo usermod -a -G plugdev userName?
[03:11] <Az3rty> Hi, I have a little problem with movie and music. For the song, there are a little white every seconds and for the film, screen is black. I use VLC and my PC is a Eee PC 1101ha. I had try to install different codecs but I dosen't work... (I'm french)
[03:12] <Dr_willis> zeest,  resizefs, gparted, parted perhaps. Ive never really needed to do so.
[03:12] <somsip> RaveYoda: yes
[03:12] <guzzlefry> Does anyone know which package installs the calendar/time panel thing for Gnome-shell?
[03:12] <somsip> RaveYoda: they will need to logout/in to effect the change
[03:12] <RaveYoda> gotcha, thx somsip mate
[03:12] <casshern> @Dr_willis i want install some games i buy for when i have win 7
[03:13] <Dr_willis> casshern,  then you will most likely want to use wine or play-on-linux
[03:13] <somsip> RaveYoda: np
[03:13] <reisio> Az3rty: white noise?
[03:13] <Dr_willis> play-on-linux is a fancy thing for wine basically.
[03:13] <reisio> s/fancy//
[03:14] <Az3rty> @reisio : Yes
[03:14] <casshern> i read long time ago that exist other app for this purpose
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> playonlinux is a real dandy
[03:14] <Dr_willis> you really dont need to use @ on irc.. this isent twitter.
[03:14] <Dr_willis> casshern,  they are most likely other front ends to wine, or some wine variant
[03:15] <hal14450> Dr_willis, amen brother
[03:15] <casshern> ok, thanks everyone...
[03:15] <hal14450> casshern, there are also native games
[03:15] <Dr_willis> casshern,  check the wine app database to see if the games you want to run are supported at all.
[03:15] <casshern> thanks also i been check steam for games
[03:16] <Dr_willis> steam now has a native linux client and a great many games.
[03:16] <casshern> im new with linux
[03:16] <Dr_willis> !steam
[03:17] <Dr_willis> Of course tehres hundreds of free/open sourced games out with native linux versions
[03:17] <hal14450> one of my steam games doesn't work but i can't be bothered to figure out the reason
[03:17] <casshern> Dr_willis thank you
[03:18] <hal14450> so i take it nobody has any info on the forum hack?
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> hal14450, It is all on the splash, what is known that can be shared.
[03:19] <jesuse> little bit disappointed with ubuntu
[03:19] <jesuse> 12.04
[03:19] <jesuse> too many errors
[03:19] <casshern> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS how stable it is?
[03:19] <jesuse> anything that I install I get an error
[03:19] <hal14450> wilee-nilee, so no details at then...
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> hal14450, It is all on the splash, what is known that can be shared. lol
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> no I'm not a bot
[03:19] <hal14450> ...
[03:19] <Az3rty> Nobody ?
[03:20] <hal14450> i got the 'lol'
[03:20] <Mestre-Splinter> Hey guys, im having some problem with my wifi. Im on xubuntu 13.04. Im always disconnected when downloading something. Steam, torents and even downloading files trhogh the browser. My chip set is RLT8187. I tried to look on the foruns of ubuntu but it is offline
[03:20] <casshern> i'm using 12.04 since yesterday and install meany programs without error
[03:20] <Kitt3n> hal14450, which of your steam games aren't working? One of Valve's
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> hal14450, Not really a matter of discussion here is all.
[03:20] <chatterbot> Hi, any info about this bug? : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1165433
[03:20] <chatterbot> Any way I can really work around this?
[03:20] <hal14450> Kitt3n, i got it from steam but it's not a valve title
[03:20] <Az3rty> ,Mestre-Splinter : Have you a other PC connect by wifi in your box ?
[03:21] <Kitt3n> hal14450, Ah, okay.
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> jesuse, Why are you using it if disappointed, and what makes you think we care what you use.
[03:21] <trism> guzzlefry: isn't it just a bunch of js files in gnome-shell-common? dateMenu.js calendar.js, etc
[03:21] <Mestre-Splinter> Az3rty, yeah, my girlfriend laptop works fine
[03:21] <hal14450> Kitt3n, i can't recall the name and it's on a different box than my current one
[03:22] <guzzlefry> trism: Haven't a clue.
[03:22] <casshern> if you install gnome3 on unity, delete Unity? or i can return if i want?
[03:22] <HypnotiX> Will  there be a problem if i installed ubuntu without a swap partition ?
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> casshern, unity run ontop of gnome 3
[03:22] <hal14450> HypnotiX, if you run out of ram yes
[03:23] <HypnotiX> should i create one now ?
[03:23] <hal14450> you could
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> casshern, Do you mean the gnome 3 desktop known as the gnome-shell here or the fallback
[03:23] <Az3rty> Mestre-Splinter : It's very strange, I had this problem but for all PC and I have changing my box. But in your case...
[03:23] <HypnotiX> i didnt create one when i installed because it kept giving me errors because of it :)
[03:24] <hal14450> HypnotiX, what errors?
[03:24] <HypnotiX> couldent mount swap at scsi 0,0,0
[03:25] <casshern> wille-nilee i mean the desktop you install with this command
[03:25] <casshern> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, You encrypted?
[03:25] <HypnotiX> no
[03:25] <hal14450> you could use a swap file
[03:25] <HypnotiX> i just tried to install linux next to windows :)
[03:25] <Mestre-Splinter> Az3rty, in my case im screwd? hahha
[03:25] <nownot> question on avconv of ffmpeg, how would I convert flac to alac (mp4) ? I keep getting errors like "utomatic encoder selection failed for output stream #0:0. Default encoder for format ipod is probably disabled. Please choose an encoder manually."
[03:25] <hal14450> i use a partition myself but i have a friend that uses a file
[03:25] <wilee-nilee> casshern, I see, I would not mess with removing unity it is very small just a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome 3.
[03:26] <HypnotiX> !swap
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Did you install from windows a wubi?
[03:26] <casshern> wilee-nilee ok
[03:26] <HypnotiX> yes
[03:27] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Ah that was the most important bit of info here, no swap is made, you have a file in windows no partition.
[03:27] <casshern> wilee-nilee i just wanna try that desktop anyway! XD
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> casshern, Cool I use the shell I like it.
[03:28] <HypnotiX> wilee-nilee: so what does that mean for me :)
[03:28] <rAad> I tried recompiling vim but its not using the right binary: http://pastie.org/8185344
[03:28] <hal14450> HypnotiX, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_more_swap.3F
[03:29] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, A problematic install not supported anymore basically with only one user I have seen with any expertise, other than that it is ubuntu.
[03:29] <hal14450> yuck wubi
[03:29] <RaveYoda> OK, I added my user to both plugdev and disk droups yet my system refuses to mount the drive automatically.
[03:29] <HypnotiX> well i installed linux on its own partition
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> Hyperbyte, Not from windows other than a file in a ntfs.
[03:30] <HypnotiX> i created an ext4 and installed it on that
[03:30] <hal14450> wubi is a pretend install
[03:30] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, NOt from windows.
[03:30] <HypnotiX> yeah
[03:30] <RaveYoda> This is a fresh install of Ubu 12:04 where I added only the pkgs I wanted after the base system was installed.
[03:30] <HypnotiX> i think i didnt understand your previous question :)
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Well if you did you might take up miracles because you just performed one.
[03:31] <eaxxae> is there an easy way to replace openjdk with oracle jdk
[03:31] <HypnotiX> i did boot linux and installed it from an usb stick
[03:31] <hal14450> RaveYoda, lsusb sees the device?
[03:31] <RaveYoda> My file manager is SpaceFM
[03:31] <hal14450> what does dmesg have to say?
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, Ah now a usb stick install I see. ;)
[03:32] <RaveYoda> hal14450, It does
[03:32] <zeest> Dr_willis: none of those seem to recognize the partition
[03:33] <RaveYoda> I can of course mont it through sudo mount /dev/sdb1 but that's uber tedious and certain programs don't like this COUGH Multisystem
[03:34] <flick> hi... i decided that i don't need so much swap space. how can i resize the swap to make it less, and put that space into the root partition?
[03:34] <hal14450> user@laptop:~$ groups
 adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare jupiter
[03:34] <casshern> swap partition must be the twice of your ram
[03:34] <hal14450> RaveYoda, if that helps i run 12.04 here
[03:34] <HypnotiX> haha stats for nerds :)
[03:35] <HypnotiX> awesome
[03:35] <hal14450> casshern, that's a waste really
[03:35] <overdub> modern computers have enough RAM to never need swap space
[03:35] <flick> i have 750MB ram and 1GB swap
[03:35] <Kitt3n> casshern, that's not true.
[03:35] <flick> but the swap is completely unused !
[03:35] <overdub> i disable mine with sudo swapoff -a
[03:35] <flick> i checked with the command - free
[03:36] <RaveYoda> hal14450, I have all of those but Jupitor
[03:36] <hal14450> RaveYoda, yeah that's a laptop specific app for controlling junk i should have ditched ages ago
[03:36] <hal14450> nothing to do with mounts
[03:36] <casshern> its not like windows? LOL
[03:37] <hal14450> casshern, not even remotely like it
[03:37] <RaveYoda> hal14450, Oh...well...I've got all of them plus the Disk group
[03:37] <flick> what are some memory intensive things to do? i want to push the ram as much as possible, to see if it still uses swap. i have Firefox, IPython Notebook, Gimp all open together at the same time now
[03:37] <RaveYoda> hal14450, excluding Jupiter
[03:38] <reisio> flick: compile pypy :p
[03:38] <hal14450> RaveYoda, what DE are you suing?
[03:38] <hal14450> using even
[03:38] <RaveYoda> hal14450, Sorry, DE?
[03:38] <flick> cool... while compiling, how do i check the peak memory usage?
[03:38] <hal14450> Desktop Environment
[03:38] <DimBulb> minecraft is very memory intensive
[03:38] <overdub> flick, open a few hundred graphics files with GIMP
[03:38] <DimBulb> flick: use minecraft to max out
[03:38] <overdub> that'll do it
[03:39] <flick> ok i will get minecraft
[03:39] <hal14450> mem[Physical: 3.8GB, 73.5% free - Swap: 3.7GB, 99.2% free]
[03:39] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  As in the disk/usb drive? It's a WD drive
[03:40] <hal14450> no i mean Unity/KDE/?
[03:40] <flick> there is no minecraft, but something called minetest in synaptic. it says it is inspired by minecraft. will that do?
[03:40] <RaveYoda> hal14450, OHHHH Openbox
[03:40] <DimBulb> I'm not sure
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> nice nick, lol
[03:40] <DimBulb> I'm not fimiliar with minetest
[03:40] <Kitt3n> flick, Minetest is in no way as intensive as Minecraft
[03:41] <Dr_willis> run minetest  200 times! ;)
[03:41] <hal14450> RaveYoda, haha yeah so i'd guess running that minimal environment means you'll have to script automount
[03:41] <DimBulb> minecraft.net
[03:41] <DimBulb> to get minecraft
[03:41] <Dr_willis> !info autofs
[03:42] <RaveYoda> hal14450, But my current desktop is automounting fine?
[03:42] <RaveYoda> hal14450, It's my laptop that isn't
[03:42] <hal14450> RaveYoda, fucked if i know man
[03:42] <DimBulb> flick: is this you're primary machine that has 768mb of ram?
[03:42] <hal14450> i pretty much mount everything that matters manually anyway
[03:43] <Dr_willis> theres several desktop services that auto mount things.    what desktop/wm are you using RaveYoda ?
[03:43] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  T.T Damn....That sucks, thx though
[03:43] <flick> sometimes i install something which installs dependencies. when i uninstall it, the dependencies remain - how do i remove these packages which are no longer needed?
[03:43] <hal14450> sshfs is my favorite thing
[03:43] <flick> DimBulb, nope - the primary machine has more ram
[03:43] <Dr_willis> flick,  try  'sudo apt-get auto-remove'  perhaps?
[03:43] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, I'm using Openbox with the RazorQT Panel
[03:43] <Kitt3n> flick, "sudo apt-get autoremove" will clean the system of unneeded packages
[03:44] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  then you dont have the auto mounting services from gnome running, (or whatever qt/kde equilivent they are) would be my guess
[03:44] <marcm> I am setting up a server for KVM virtualization (with LVMs) and I got 6 x 2TB drives and an LSI 9260 8i RAID controller. I get more space with RAID 50, however I am wondering what the performance penalty is vs. RAID 10? Can anyone help me with this please? Thank you.
[03:44] <flick> oh cool thanks!
[03:44] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  theres some auto-mounter assistant tools int he repos i recall. that basically show a button to mount/unmount things if you dont want to install a larger automounting system.
[03:45] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  My File manager is SpaceFM. I've done a base install with Ubu 12:04 and added all pkges I wanted
[03:45] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  so you need to decide how badly you want things to auto mount - and install the needed tools or not..
[03:45] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  The RazorQT Panel has such a button
[03:45] <Kitt3n> ^
[03:46] <hal14450> RaveYoda, my fm is mc lol
[03:46] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  It's the permission system that's messing me up
[03:46] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  depends on the fs you are mounting, as to what you need to do, to get what permissions/ownership.
[03:46] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  MC? MuCommander?
[03:47] <Dr_willis> !info mc
[03:47] <Dr_willis> i like rox-filer also. ;) as an alternative file manager
[03:47] <hal14450> ^^^ what ubottu said
[03:47] <hal14450> rsync is fun too
[03:48] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, Ohhh, duuhhh me. XD MuCommander is much like it but based with Java scripts and QT themes
[03:48] <eaxxae> mc is a classic, used it for about a decade, prob longer
[03:48] <Dr_willis> mc has so many features and extras, ive used it for years.. and havent touched on 10% of them
[03:48] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  You should check out SpaceFM.
[03:48] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  =P
[03:48] <Dr_willis> dual pane file managers. ;) gotta love the classics
[03:49] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, the fs is NTFS on the external drive btw
[03:49] <hal14450> eaxxae, glad to see i'm in good company =D RaveYoda I'll always be a cli junkie
[03:49] <eaxxae> runs in an ssh session too, GUI file managers are bloated.. ;)
[03:49] <reisio> slow way to get around, indeed
[03:50] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  then you will want to look into the ntfs-3g options for getting it mounted how you want. there was a ntfs-config tool on normal ubuntu that could auto-make a ntfs-3g entry in /etc/fstab for them. but that may pull in more then what you want
[03:50] <hal14450> eaxxae, screen has at least two instances running all the time
[03:50] <reisio> /usr/lib64/misc/xscreensaver/apple2 -text -fast -program bash :)
[03:50] <RaveYoda> hal14450, Errr welll. SpFM isn't persay cli.... But it's still veerrryyy light compared to Nautilus in my humble opinion
[03:50] <reisio> that's my new fm
[03:50] <hal14450> gnu-screen that is
[03:50] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  also rember if the ntfs, or vfat fs were 'unmounted uncleanly' from windows, linux may refuse to mount them
[03:51] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  I have ntfs-3g installed already? So just get the automounter script for it?
[03:51] <hal14450> RaveYoda, i'm very set in my ways i have the same time invested as eaxxae in using a cli manager for files
[03:51] <HypnotiX> can someone tell me how to access the settings on pidgin, sry if its a dumb question :)
[03:52] <Dr_willis> I dont know what you have installed RaveYoda  :) (you are asking me?)    you can make a generic fstab entry for the various ntfs drives if you wanted and just mount them as needed.
[03:52] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  I'm working my way to cli. I just like the point and click for running files too much
[03:53] <hal14450> RaveYoda, use what suits you don't try to conform to a cli fm if that's not what you like
[03:53] <hal14450> i'm content using what i've used for ages because i know it and like it
[03:54] <Dr_willis> mc has so many features and is so  handy to use over ssh.. its a must learn about tool. ;)
[03:54] <hal14450> it is exceptionally handy Dr_willis
[03:54] <hal14450> but slower than rsync
[03:54] <Dr_willis> i also find mcedit easier to use then most of the 'suggested' beginner text editors
[03:55] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  Totally bro, but one day it'll all be cli. I LOOOVVEEE LITE RESOURCE Systems. Hence my ubu base system with a completly diffrent software selection
[03:55] <hal14450> sshfs speeds it up because it doesn't use fish then
[03:55] <hal14450> RaveYoda, familiar with screen or tmux yet?
[03:55] <hal14450> those are must have apps for the cli
[03:56] <hal14450> pick one
[03:56] <hal14450> they don't mix well
[03:56] <Dr_willis> !info byobu
[03:56] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, I can't get the launch scripts for programs right is all really. Once I knew how to get MC to launch programs i'd use it in a heart beat
[03:56] <casshern> .
[03:56] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  i dont really see the point in using mc to launch programs..
[03:56] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  Not heard of 'em? I'll look up
[03:57] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  you just find the executable  and hit enter on it in mc.. and it launches it..
[03:57] <hal14450> RaveYoda, Dr_willis mentioned one too
[03:57] <Dr_willis> mc is a FILE MANAGER, not an app-launcher. but it can for example launch your video player when you select a  video file.
[03:57] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, I can't ever find the exacutables
[03:57] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  this is why you just use the shell and type their names :) no need to find them
[03:58] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  and mc lets you do that  from within mc.
[03:58] <Dr_willis> since mc has a shell built in at the bottom
[03:59] <Pinkamena_D> I am curious why opening a large text file with gedit takes so long. just now I tried to open an 80mb text file and its still not unfrozen (been about 2.5 minutes), yet when I try ot load something like chrome which uses like 10 times that amount of ram, it takes maybe 30 seconds max to load up.
[04:00] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, and hall Well, for instance, i type vlc fileName and it never runs through the fm.
[04:00] <hal14450> Pinkamena_D, because it's a gui app but honestly it shouldn't really take that long
[04:00] <hal14450> try viewing in a pager like less
[04:01] <Pinkamena_D> ok, but I hope it doe snot force me to lose work that was open in other tabs
[04:01] <hal14450> q to quit less
[04:02] <Pinkamena_D> still slowely alternating between that "darkened" start and "light" (but still not responding
[04:02] <hal14450> /<search term
[04:02] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  I'm liking tmux. Seems handy
[04:02] <hal14450> you went with the one i don't use lol
[04:02] <hal14450> i prefer screen
[04:03] <hal14450> Pinkamena_D, is it a network attached file or a local one?
[04:03] <Pinkamena_D> local
[04:03] <hal14450> hmm
[04:03] <Pinkamena_D> its just a dump from an old access 2 database
[04:04] <casshern> do you guys remember the movie die hard 4? what kind of chat is using the hacker "justin long" and OS
[04:04] <hal14450> do you need to edit it or just read it?
[04:04] <bret> Is there a website tracking the Ubuntu edge income rates and progress?  Something to get a better idea of if its going to make it
[04:04] <RaveYoda> hal14450,  and Dr_willis  Does the file manager potentialy need permission to mount devices? Or is this handled through the groups?
[04:04] <Pinkamena_D> I was trying to get the schema,
[04:04] <reisio> hal14450: screenshot?
[04:04] <reisio> erm
[04:04] <reisio> casshern: screenshot?
[04:04] <casshern> wait...
[04:05] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  it can be handled by groups, or fstab options
[04:05] <kunji> How do I troubleshoot a consistently failing boot of Ubuntu?
[04:06] <hal14450> kunji, fails as in how?
[04:06] <eaxxae> kunji: boot in single user mode
[04:07] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, ok, wait, what if fstab and or mtab don't see the device?
[04:07] <hal14450> kunji, so no kernel gets loaded?
[04:07] <casshern> reisio here the screenshot http://nmap.org/movies/diehard4/nmap-diehard4-1080p-1920x801.png
[04:08] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, Because if i just type mount /dev/sdb2 it says can't find /dev/sdb2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:08] <kunji> hal14450: A complete freeze during the Plymouth? screen, that purple loading screen.    On the next boot it wants to do a bug report involving Xorg, but I'm not sure how to see what it wanted to report exactly.
[04:08] <hal14450> ctrl+alt+F1 do anything?
[04:09] <kunji> hal14450: nope
[04:09] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, And sense i'm in the correct groups mount /dev/sdb2 should work
[04:09] <reisio> casshern: that is a contrived UI
[04:10] <hal14450> kunji, it's been a while but i'd try booting to a usb and then changing it to boot to txt then check the xorg logs
[04:10] <reisio> casshern: it might even be all post processed
[04:10] <hal14450> can't recall how to do that offhand
[04:10] <reisio> casshern: I'll check my copy and tell you
[04:10] <casshern> ok thanks
[04:11] <hal14450> haven't used it so i 'losed' it
[04:11] <casshern> and its not necessary
[04:12] <reisio> casshern: oh yes it is!
[04:12] <reisio> but if you want an "irc" client like that, just use pidgin
[04:12] <kunji> hal14450: I can get it to boot and I can check the logs, when I say consistent I mean it always does it after being shut down properly, I can just power it off via the power button and boot and it will boot up fine.  I didn't notice anything weird in the xorg logs previously, is there something they use to indicate errors as opposed to normal logs that I can grep for, ERR or something?
[04:12] <hal14450> reisio, that actually looks a bit like fluxbox and conky
[04:12] <casshern> reisio XD
[04:13] <reisio> yeah it's a window manager, with decorations
[04:13] <reisio> and the "chat" part is just lines of text, with an avatar
[04:13] <casshern> reisio i have installed
[04:13] <kunji> hal14450: I have actually found some errors regarding AHCI though, not sure if they're superfluous or not.
[04:13] <reisio> 'cause why have a realistic nmap output on one side AND a realistic something else on the other side?
[04:13] <reisio> realistic + nonsense, YAY
[04:14] <casshern> Hollywood...
[04:14] <Shadowandlight> how do i make sure apache is working on my server?
[04:14] <hal14450> kunji, grep "EE" /var/log/Xorg0.log <--- something like that for the path
[04:14] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  you can use the user/users option in  fstab and  then a user can mount/unmount sdb2
[04:14] <Shadowandlight> apache status is good, its running, but not showing
[04:15] <hal14450> kunji, use tab for completion on the path
[04:15] <hal14450> Shadowandlight, lsof -i|grep apache
[04:16] <kunji> hal14450: That's the right path, here is all it gets that looks even remotely useful for this:  (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[04:16] <hal14450> kunji, so no errors on the xorg log
[04:16] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis,  OK, Uhhhhhh... how may I go about this?
[04:17] <go8765> hello. i cant run skype and get memory overload. can anybody help me with this?
[04:17] <kunji> hal14450: Well, looks like there's more in the Xorg.1.log
[04:17] <Dr_willis> !fstab | RaveYoda
[04:17] <hal14450> kunji, there will be more but it might not have any errors
[04:17] <Dr_willis> RaveYoda,  the ntfs-3g homepage gives numerous example fstab entries for ntfs  filesystems
[04:17] <kunji> hal14450: [    74.218] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[04:17] <kunji> [    75.336] (EE) fglrx(0): Output LVDS enabled but has no modes
[04:17] <kunji> [    75.336] (EE) fglrx(0): Display Infrastructure Failed
[04:17] <kunji> [    75.336] (EE) fglrx(0): PreInit failed
[04:17] <kunji> [    75.403] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[04:17] <kunji> [    75.403] (EE)
[04:17] <kunji> [    75.403] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.1.log" for additional information.
[04:17] <FloodBot1> kunji: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:17] <kunji> T.T whoops, didn't realize there were returns in that
[04:17] <hal14450> whoops
[04:18] <hal14450> !pastebin
[04:18] <hal14450> ...
[04:18] <kunji> Yeah, didn't realize it was going to be that long, looked short in terminal
[04:18] <RaveYoda> Alright, thx Dr_willis
[04:18] <hal14450> it always does ;)
[04:19] <hal14450> so kunji this sort of sounds like a not waking up from screensaver issue more than anything else
[04:20] <hal14450> hibernate much?
[04:20] <amyassin> anyone has more info of what happened to ubuntu forums?
[04:20] <kunji> hal14450: Actually isn't the number in that log file the display though?  In which case the Xorg.1.log file is probably ancient and irrelevant here.
[04:20] <kunji> hal14450: nah, no hibernating, no screensaver, not even turning the screen off
[04:21] <Dr_willis> amyassin,  it was space aliens! :) actually im sure there will be some big blog postings on it when its all said and done..  and they are sure they got it fixed
[04:21] <hal14450> amyassin, sadly that's the reason i joined tonight and nobody has said anything other than what's on the placeholder is all we have
[04:21] <hal14450> amyassin, that's public...
[04:22] <Dr_willis> hopefully all these other places that use the same forum software will lock things down
[04:22] <hal14450> kunji, the logs say otherwise
[04:22] <hal14450> from you posted
[04:22] <kunji> hal14450: Right, that's what I'm saying though, that's probably from when I first installed Ubuntu, so a few months old
[04:23] <amyassin> Dr_willis hope they get there soon...
[04:23] <hal14450> kunji, no on each boot the previous log is renamed to 1,2,3 etc
[04:23] <amyassin> hal14450, seems nothing yet public.. kinda sad
[04:24] <hal14450> amyassin, it is
[04:24] <hal14450> i already have enough security concerns but at least that isn't tied to cc info
[04:24] <amyassin> I use google cache these days to get the info
[04:24] <kunji> hal14450: Is that Ubuntu specific?  You think it's hibernating instead of shutting down then?  Because the documentation says this: -logfile filename  Use the file called filename as the Xorg server log file.  The default log file is /var/log/Xorg.n.log on most platforms, where n is the display number of the Xorg server.  The default may be in a different directory on some platforms. This option is only available when the server is run as r
[04:25] <hal14450> kunji, check the date
[04:25] <hal14450> amyassin, that can be handy i guess but i prefer ddg
[04:26] <amyassin> hal14450: what's ddg??
[04:26] <kunji> hal14450: with ls -la I get May 15 04:26 on the Xorg.1.log file
[04:26] <hal14450> <---paranoid duckduckgo.com
[04:27] <RaveYoda> Dr_willis, and hal14450  THANK YOU TO THE BOTH OF YOU!!! I fixed it with fstab editing. =] OPGHJHJGHJJHGHF STUPIDLY HAPPY ATM
[04:27] <hal14450> so i guess it's not relevant then kunji and you're welcome RaveYoda but i think Dr_willis is the one to thank for that
[04:29] <hal14450> amyassin, i'm literally playing without a full deck if you check my host
[04:29] <DanC> anybody else seeing really slow apt-gets from us.archive.ubuntu.com? I'm getting 139 kB/s
[04:30] <RaveYoda> Halyard, Well...yes to a degree, but you told me how to get the user into plugdev
[04:30] <hal14450> [00:29:56] * [hal14450] is connecting from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:30] <kunji> hal14450: I misremembered earlier, the errors I found before are not AHCI, they are ACPI.  In dmesg I found this: http://pastebin.com/mcbB5can
[04:30] <hal14450> lol
[04:30] <RaveYoda> hal14450, which is quite important too as user needs to be in the group to not have to do sudo mount
[04:31] <Shadowandlight> im running a custom created app on my web server .... i had it running, restarted the server... turned back on the app and now i get no images loadin on the test website ... heres what keeps coming up in the command line - https://privatepaste.com/52124228ef
[04:31] <casshern> ubuntu 12.04 LTS until when its gonna have support?
[04:32] <hal14450> casshern, it has support
[04:32] <john__> hi i have .vmdk file how to install that file in kvm on ubuntu
[04:32] <casshern> i mean until what year?
[04:33] <hal14450> iirc 3 years is the standard for LTS
[04:33] <casshern> thanks
[04:33] <hal14450> until a new one
[04:33] <hal14450> 5 yrs for support iirc
[04:33] <Dr_willis> john__,  perhaps this -> http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/How_To_Migrate_From_Vmware_To_KVM
[04:34] <wilee-nilee> Shadowandlight, not sure how your custom app relates here, if you think it is the server and it is ubuntu you might try #ubuntu-server
[04:34] <agus> hello
[04:34] <agus> ping!!!
[04:35] <casshern> WHAT?
[04:35] <Dr_willis> Ping? we barely even met...
[04:35] <smgordon> LOL
[04:35] <agus> where word is that
[04:35] <kunji> hal14450: Also ACPI errors in kern.log
[04:37] <kunji> hal14450: Hmm, there is a cups fail in boot.log, almost looks like it's trying to load cups twice
[04:37] <agus> please help me
[04:38] <smgordon> well agus  speak
iam alreadt tried this link but it is not working
[04:38] <hal14450> kunji, not sure whats up but hunting for errors in logs will generally glean more false positives than you have time for
[04:39] <agus> tolong aku laper nih
[04:39] <Dr_willis> john__,  means nothing to me. i dont use either one.. that url says it should have native support.. perhaps ask in the kvm channels.
[04:39] <hal14450> agus, we can't help you unless you speak english here
[04:39] <kunji> hal14450: Yeah, I sure don't have time to hunt down what they all mean, was hoping you might know if they're worth dismissing  or are common offenders :P
[04:40] <agus> how to updete ubuntu 10.04 to 13.04
[04:40] <hal14450> like most folks i use a search engine for answers i don't already have or have forgotten the solution to
[04:41] <kunji> hal14450: It's just a really weird one to me, like something in the shutdown process causes the fail on next boot... but it's a dual boot machine, and windows will boot every time regardless. Also it doesn't seem to matter whether it was shut down from windows or from Ubuntu, the next boot Ubuntu errors unless the machine was shutdown via the holding the power button.  I'm really suspecting firmware at this point.
[04:42] <hal14450> agus, probably too late for that since it's not an LTS so support is gone
[04:42] <kunji> hal14450: Yeah, no luck with google yet, :P  I'll keep at it and let you know if I fine anything.
[04:42] <kunji> *find
[04:43] <hal14450> kunji, sotty i can't be more helpful :(
[04:44] <hal14450> damn typos
[04:44] <Dr_willis> sooty :)
[04:44] <hal14450> getting late here
[04:44] <hal14450> lol
[04:44] <hal14450> Dr_willis, was i wrong though?
[04:45] <hal14450> 10.04 isn't exactly what most folks run if they're long term
[04:46] <smgordon> maybe thats why he wants to update to 13.04
[04:46] <hal14450> am i wrong though because i ran 8.04 on my dtop for ages
[04:47] <agus> modussssssssssssssss
[04:47] <hal14450> i mean literally until last year when i finally updated to 12.04
[04:47] <agus> has join
[04:48] <kunji> Well, I'm gonna try just removing xorg.conf and rebooting, since that error report about xorg happens, maybe I'll get lucky, gotta reboot for that now, be back in a bit.
[04:48] <John__> I have a fun situation. I have Ubuntu installed and I'm looking at installing Windows 7 alongside it. Should I reformat my HD and start from scratch, find a way to install Windows after Ubuntu, or can I "Export" my Ubuntu setup, install Windows, then reinstall it with my current setup?
[04:49] <agus> any can speaking indonesian , hellooo..............
[04:49] <smgordon> no  sorry agus
[04:49] <smgordon> use google translate
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> John__, You want windows at the front of the disc for easy repair access
[04:50] <agus> wadoh aku terpencil kie
[04:51] <hal14450> John__, there used to be a way to add it to ntldr by copying the first 512 bytes but iirc win7 doesn't use that method like previous windows versions did
[04:52] <hal14450> so basically it would be a pain to install afterwards and then access your any other os because windows only cares about itself
[04:53]  * wilee-nilee did not know windows was sentient.
[04:53] <hal14450> agus, you can try apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:54] <John__> Grah
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> John__, You can clone ubuntu and load it back if you need to.
[04:54] <John__> Oh really?
[04:54] <John__> Somebody mentioned that
[04:55] <hal14450> windows won't even knwo it's there you just need to repair the boot loader
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> John__, I use clonezilla, the only catch is if the partition # is different your loading you will change that info in the saved packages, and it loads to a equal or larger partition of the original.
[04:55] <casshern> agus ???
[04:55] <hal14450> it can't recognize any filesystems other than MS filesystems
[04:56] <John__> Grah I think I'll just backup my code from ubuntu and start anew. I'm very new to partitioning and I'm almost positive I'll end up breaking it somehow.
[04:56] <hal14450> using separate drives is best if it's a dtop
[04:57] <hal14450> linux on the ssd and windows on the old spinner
[04:58] <John__> I don't have an SSD or multiple drives haha
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> John__, Also note when you are getting opinions not substance on the irc,
[04:58] <dirtydaw1> morning all
[04:58] <cmck193> need some help.  installed windows 7 in virtualbox on ubuntu host.  I'm having issues with usb passthrough.
[04:58] <John__> I know, thank you
[04:58] <John__> I'll just fold and start from scratch haha
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, You add the usb in settings?
[04:58] <hal14450> ymmv with my opinions because i admit 10.04 is actually an LTS i skipped lol
[04:59] <cmck193> wille-nille: how do I add the usb?
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, Go to setting in vbox and add them.
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> there is a usb tab
[05:00] <cmck193> wille-nille: it tells me no usb devices available
[05:00] <hal14450> cmck193, sometimes you need to enable it in the bios if it won't work otherwise
[05:00] <cmck193> hal14450: enable what in the bios?
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, Any plugged in, and if so are they mounted with fstab?
[05:00] <hal14450> usb passthrough for vm
[05:00] <cmck193> hal14450: they are mounted
[05:01] <cmck193> wille-nille: they are mounted
[05:01] <cmck193> hal14450: that's an option?
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, With fstab
[05:01] <kunji> I think I sort of know what's up now.  I actually think it was the proprietary driver failing to switch between graphics cards.  The laptop this is on has an A10 and a 7970m, and there is an indicator light for which one is in use.  This fails to change in the cases where the boot fails.  Removing Xorg.conf didn't help, but I switched to the open source drivers just now and it's been solid for 5 reboots.
[05:01] <cmck193> wille-nille: yup.  do they not need to be mounted?
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, I suspect that is why vbox does not see them.
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, fstab mounts differently then a just plugging in or having it plugged in when you boot.
[05:03] <cmck193> wille-nille: so, they need to be unmounted from the host?
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, No, probably just not mounted by fstab, they have to be seen by the computer.
[05:03] <kunji> There are unfortunately two downsides to using the open drivers on this machine, one is that the Steam games run better with the proprietary drivers (at least last I heard), and 2nd that my battery life will be shorter, since I don't think I know how to convince the open source drivers to switch to using the A10 instead of the 7870m
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> I never use fstab to mount externals or more than my one HD, so I'm not quite sure the voodoo that it does
[05:05] <cmck193> wille-nille: maybe i'm not checking it correctly.  tell me how to double check fstab
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:06] <cmck193> wille-nille: ok, i'm wrong.  just my swap and ext4 shows
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, So is the usb showing as mounted?
[05:07] <casshern> ubuntu 12.04 wifi doesn't work properly, it disconnects me every 5 or 10 minutes. and after a while doesn't even connect me. can help me?
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, Do you have the guest additions installed, and are you in the vbox group?
[05:07] <cmck193> not in fstab,  but i can see the files on it
[05:07] <cmck193> yes and just added.
[05:08] <casshern> already install the driver of my wifi with ndiswrapper
[05:08] <casshern> and nothing!
[05:08] <babinlonston> I want to monitor the Whole Posgresql  in nagios how can i do it
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, So you see the usb icon in the left sidepanel of home?
[05:09] <kunji> wilee-nilee: fstab does voodoo?  I thought it just mounted the listed stuff on boot with the given options, so at least I thought it was pretty straightforward.  There's something else in Ubuntu that handles auto-mounting removable stuff and things like that, don't remember what it is though
[05:09] <HypnotiX> can i just say that i enjoy this ubuntu :)
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> no
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> lol
[05:09] <HypnotiX> :(
[05:09] <cmck193> wille-nille: yup.  do i need to unmount it?  i added myself to the vbox group.  do i need to restart?
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, Maynbe a logout would probably do it if that is the problem.
[05:10] <casshern> i need help with my wifi, please!
[05:10] <HypnotiX> wish i didnt need to keep my windows installation for the damn photoshop
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> !details | casshern to the channel
[05:10] <cmck193> wille-nille: ok.  brb going to logout and try again
[05:10] <casshern> ubuntu 12.04 wifi doesn't work properly, it disconnects me every 5 or 10 minutes. and after a while doesn't even connect me. can help me?
[05:10] <dirtydaw1> who
[05:10] <dirtydaw1> wc
[05:10] <casshern> wifi card rtl8187
[05:11] <wilee-nilee> ! rtl8187
[05:11] <kunji> HypnotiX: I hear it will work with magic combinations of the right WINE with the right photoshop, you could try it if you want.
[05:12] <HypnotiX> if i have the 32bit ubuntu will the system use 8gb or is it limited to 4 ?
[05:12] <kunji> Should use 8
[05:12] <HypnotiX> ty
[05:13] <HypnotiX> !nvidia
[05:14] <cmck193> wilee-nilee: ok, fixing to try it out
[05:14] <casshern_> .
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> HypnotiX, I believe so now with the pae kernels. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[05:15] <Vbitz> Can Ubuntu 13.04 be installed on the Samsung ATIV Smart PC 500T, it's a 32bit processor and it uses uefi, should I try now or wait for 13.10?
[05:15] <cmck193> wilee-nilee: nice. it's working.  is there a way i can set everything connected to a certain port to automatically be connected to the vm?
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, not sure on the port, do you mean like a multi usb usb plugin?
[05:17] <casshern_> :(
[05:17] <cmck193> wilee-nilee: i connect to fire alarm panels via usb.  have 3 ports on my laptop.  don't know how it would work.  wanted to setup a certain port to go directly to the vm if running
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Vbitz might say here
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, Not sure you might ask in #vbox if no one knows here
[05:18] <Vbitz> wilee-nilee it's 32bit
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> Vbitz, Right and if I had a definitive answer I would state it. ;)
[05:19] <cmck193> wilee-nilee: i see i can setup a filter with a port.  how would i find what port is what?
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, No idea, I have limited knowledge really
[05:19] <HypnotiX> !drivers
[05:19] <wilee-nilee> not just here lol
[05:19] <casshern_> should i try with ndiswrapper the driver of my wifi, for windows XP or Win7
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> cmck193, I think lsusb will name them though, not sure really.
[05:21] <HypnotiX> how do i updated my nvidia driver from the terminal
[05:21] <HypnotiX> sudo apt something nvidia-current ?
[05:24] <vinodpaul> hai
[05:24] <vinodpaul> what thehell
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> !language | vinodpaul
[05:25] <HypnotiX> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html is this guide any good? :)
[05:25] <vinodpaul> sorry
[05:26] <vinodpaul> ubuntu phone
[05:26] <Vbitz> after doing some more research it does not look like ubuntu(or any other linux) is compatible with any clover trail devices right now
[05:26] <vinodpaul> pls redirect me to ubuntu phone
[05:29] <kunji> vinodpaul: You mean where to donate?  Or the irc chat or what?
[05:29] <somsip> !phone | vinodpaul
[05:30]  * Dr_willis waits for a actual device to be produced befor he gets excited about a ubuntu phone. ;)
[05:31] <fictionalhippo> wilee-nilee, are you on?
[05:32] <kunji> Dr_willis: need to put in some monies to get the device though, sort of a chicken and egg problem.  Though phone providers will be rolling out their own devices with it even if the crowdfunded hardware fails.
[05:32] <Dr_willis> kunji,  that even seems weird.. if its to be a big 'ubuntu flagship' product - makes me wonder why  its not allready got funding from err.. canocal and so forth. but what do i know.. Im just a lowly consumer.
[05:33] <mJayk> Its not the ubuntu phone
[05:33] <Dr_willis> Im still waiting for the PiCade case to be avail for me to buy. ;)
[05:33] <mJayk> they have ubuntu flagship phones
[05:33] <mJayk> this is a trial device not a phone
[05:33] <cmck193> wilee-nilee: figured it out.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> ill still belive it when i actually see the things produced.
[05:33] <Dr_willis> I have a whole closet of failed hardware 'gizmos' from over the years. :P
[05:33] <cmck193> wilee-nilee: run "VBoxManage list usbhost" in terminal and see what port you device is on, then create a usb filter with just that port number.  Love it
[05:34] <clue_h> last time i looked they raised 6 million, not sure what it is now
[05:34] <mJayk> 7 last night
[05:34] <fictionalhippo> Ok, so if anyone is on i just need a quick answer. I've installed ndiswrapper-utils, ndiswrapper-common and ndisgtk but now i can't seem to get to the System<Administration to get to the Windows Wireless Devices so i can get my usb wireless adapter to work. Any ideas?
[05:34] <somsip> clue_h: same. The average per day is not looking good to hit target, unless Shuttlworth dibs in for the missing amount
[05:34] <kunji> Dr_willis: Well, http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge there you go.  I know Ubuntu isn't broke, but I'm not sure they've got 32 million lying around either.  So the other Ubuntu phones that will come out are partnerships with phone manufacturers.
[05:34] <cmck193> just one more question:  how do i auto mount my local windows partition?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> cmck193,  make a fstab entry for it usign the ntfs-3g filesystem
[05:35] <MonkeyDust> !fstab | cmck193
[05:35] <Dr_willis> !ntfs-3g | cmck193
[05:35] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: lsusb in terminal
[05:35] <kunji> And if they don't hit the 32 mil you get your money back, so meh, seems ok
[05:36] <clue_h> that would be unfortunate, i like the look of this edge
[05:36] <clue_h> specs more so
[05:36] <mJayk> the concept is amazing
[05:37] <clue_h> if it can connect to a monitor i can connect it to a mini projector ha
[05:37] <kunji> I actually wasn't too impressed with the specs, also I'm not really clear on what I/O is available, it does need to function more or less as a desktop so... are they going with a special dock to expand I/O or something?
[05:38] <mJayk> clue_h: or even a big projector! ha
[05:38] <cmck193> thanks all.
[05:38] <cmck193> night
[05:38] <mJayk> kunji: the specs are not released yet ?
[05:38] <clue_h> true indeed
[05:38] <mJayk> :)
[05:38] <kunji> mJayk: Some are, but not all
[05:38] <fictionalhippo> mJayk, yeah i've done that and it shows that it is there it just wont connect. I Don't think the drivers were able to make it through so i downloaded those apps to try and move over the drivers from the installation disk that came with my wireless USB adapter
[05:38] <Dr_willis> intel has had that wireless->to a monitor  stuff for some time. and saw google has some chrome-cast dongle comming out..   but still its hard for that stuff to catch on it seems.
[05:39] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: try ip link show
[05:39] <Dr_willis> a Phone or pc or chromebook  with a chrome-cast dongle support.  would be handy for me.  Somthing to hope gets in the future of ubuntu.
[05:39] <kunji> Dr_willis: Archos43 that I've got actually has mini-HDMI out, only problem with that device is that it's pretty slow, but it also has host USB with an adapter, so I can use mouse and keyboard with it as well
[05:40] <Dr_willis> kunji,  my latest hardware toy is a Raspberry Pi. :) so im going the cheap route in my hardware hobbies.
[05:41] <fictionalhippo> danny@fictionalhippo:~$ ip link show 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT      link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP mode DEFAULT qlen 1000     link/ether 78:ac:c0:c0:e9:53 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[05:41] <kunji> Dr_willis: got one of those too ^_^ it's nice, even XBMC 1080p video, just the GUI is kinda slow
[05:41] <fictionalhippo> thats my result
[05:41] <clue_h> kunji, i have an archos, the problem is i cant put debian/ubuntu on it as it has no boot option
[05:41] <mJayk> Anyone have a windows phone / how do they sync media
[05:41] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: hard to tell with no formatting
[05:41] <Dr_willis> kunji,  been testing out that Plex-pi disrto on mine lately.  also got xbian going, connecting to my ubuntu upnp server.
[05:41] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: so you have lothats ok you have wired yea i dont see it either
[05:42] <kunji> clue_h: I think you can get the boot option, but I, and least to get Angstrom running, not sure if anyone has gotten Ubuntu running on it
[05:42] <Dr_willis> It is very nice the advances that upnp has made  in the last few years.. ;)
[05:42] <HypnotiX> In what directory should i extract a software? :)
[05:42] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  totally depends on what it is.. and who its for
[05:42] <HypnotiX> its a text editor for me :)
[05:42] <fictionalhippo> mJayk, would you possibly have an email i can send it to?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  stuff for your user, could bekept in their user home.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> HypnotiX,  no need to move it elsewhere system wide.. unless you wnat all users to access it
[05:43] <clue_h> i'll just keep trying,
[05:43] <HypnotiX> alright thanx
[05:43] <nithin> how can i write a script which shows "good morning " message when the system gets started
[05:43] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: its ok your right it lists only lo and eth0 as network devcies
[05:44] <kunji> See, this looks good though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h384z7Ph0gU&list=UUJ65UG_WgFa_O_odbiBWZoA  ... but when is this hardware coming, and how much will it cost -_-
[05:44] <fictionalhippo> Yeah thats what is making this difficult, but when i do lsusb it shows that is connected to the usb.
[05:45] <mJayk> so it just doesnt recognise it as a network device
[05:45] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: what is the name of the usb stick ?
[05:45] <gogogadget> can anyone recomond a twitter ncurces application?
[05:45] <danny4way> I need help with Wine.
[05:45] <fictionalhippo> 050d:110a Belkin Components
[05:45] <danny4way> I was trying to install windows program. But it seems it installed it well but it's having trouble with starting up.
[05:45] <fictionalhippo> its a wireless usb adapter since i don't have access to an ethernet cord in my room.
[05:46] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: do you have the windows drivers ?
[05:46] <gogogadget> Hello, can anyone recomond a twitter ncurces application for a low resources computer?
[05:46] <sam113101> what's a twitter application?
[05:47] <gogogadget> sam113101: a twitter client that works in console
[05:47] <fictionalhippo> i've got the drivers for it on the install disk. I can see the drivers themselves when i insert the disk and open the files
[05:47] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: gdgd
[05:47] <danny4way> Anyone?
[05:47] <danny4way> I need help with Wine
[05:48] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: try this sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils ndiswrapper-common ndisgtk
[05:48] <kunji> danny4way: Might have better luck in the WINE IRC channel, it's a pretty specific area
[05:48] <||arifaX> danny4way: more info
[05:48] <||arifaX> danny4way: what about the programs name?
[05:48] <danny4way> | |arifaX, Okay basically I am trying to install Microsoft office 2007
[05:49] <mJayk> danny4way: use play on linux
[05:49] <mJayk> danny4way: installs perfectly
[05:49] <danny4way> mJayk, Is play like wine that installs windows program?
[05:49] <fictionalhippo> Ok mJayk, it says it installed fine
[05:49] <danny4way> Or is it microsoft office like program?
[05:50] <mJayk> danny4way: you tel it what you are installing and it sets wine up for that program
[05:50] <||arifaX> danny4way: I can't remember exactly but I think it only works with the commercial wine
[05:50] <danny4way> Now the problem with Wine is that it installs smoothly.
[05:50] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: ok now try ndiskgt
[05:50] <danny4way> When i load up, it says Unhandled expection: assertion failed in 32-bit code
[05:51] <Dr_willis> MS Office in wine. Eww. ;)
[05:51] <nithin> i am using ubuntu 12.04  OS. i am not able to connect to wifi ca any one help me
[05:51] <fictionalhippo> mJayk, command not found...
[05:51] <mJayk> danny4way: you prolly have some files that are not installed either clibs or crap
[05:51] <tigrang> Anyone know when LO 4.1 will come to ubuntu repos?
[05:51] <Dr_willis> dosent MS have some sort of online-office feature now?
[05:51] <mJayk> Dr_willis: works through wine and yes :(
[05:52] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: you just installed ndisgtk yea
[05:52] <Dr_willis> abiword does all the word processing i need these days. ;)
[05:52] <tigrang> nithin: What happens?  Can you at least see networks?
[05:52] <fictionalhippo> yeah it didn't show any problems
[05:52] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: ok lets try to find it in the lens i think its in System > Administration > Windows Wireless devices
[05:52] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: we are just trying to run the program you just installed
[05:53] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[05:53] <clue_h> I'm happy to wait a few years for morrowind to be fully ready
[05:53] <mattwj2002> I am running xubuntu it isn't bad
[05:53] <petoo> HI
[05:53] <mattwj2002> :)
[05:53] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: that will load the windows .ini for your usb and tell ubuntu its a wireless devicve
[05:53] <||arifaX> danny4way: winehq says it should work quite well. maybe you pick up a tutorial and follow it http://www.webupd8.org/2011/01/how-to-install-microsoft-office-2007-in.html
[05:53] <nithin> yes i am using lenovo laptop i can able to connect to wired network but not for wifi
[05:53] <petoo> How to recover shift+deleted files/folders ?
[05:53] <danny4way> Thank you
[05:54] <fictionalhippo> ok, now here's my next question. I'm running Ubuntu 13.04, how do i get to System > Administration > Windows Wireless Devices?
[05:54] <Dr_willis> !undelete | petoo
[05:54] <tigrang> nithin: Can you see wireless networks, but not connect? Or you cant see wireless networks at all?
[05:54] <mJayk> nithin: look for a program called "Additional Drivers" and run that, then select wireless drivers lenovo are proprietary
[05:55] <||arifaX> danny4way: maybe this is better for you: http://www.unixmen.com/install-ms-office2007-on-ubuntu-using-playonlinux/ using playonlinux
[05:55] <petoo> Dr_willis, I am using extundelete and it asks me to first dismount the drive I am using right now. Is it possible at all?
[05:55] <amyassin> Dr_willis: Is there a list of shortcuts for bots somewhere?
[05:55] <Helpme123456789> hello could someone tell me if I am screwed
[05:55] <tigrang> Helpme123456789: you're screwed
[05:55] <Helpme123456789> I just typed apt-get remove wine 1.6 in term
[05:55] <Helpme123456789> and I am watching everything uninstall
[05:55] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: press windows key and type system
[05:55] <Dr_willis> petoo,  you want to unmount the filesystem asap. and work from a live cd. to have the best chance of success.. even then.. its may not be a very big chance.
[05:56] <Helpme123456789> every program on the computer is being uninstalled
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Helpme123456789,  whts the exact command you used?
[05:56] <Helpme123456789> apt-get remove wine 1.6
[05:56] <fictionalhippo> all that comes up is system settings, system log, and system monitor.
[05:56] <fictionalhippo> mJayk, ^
[05:56] <nithin> initially it will not displays the wireless networks available, but if i mention the name of wifi connection available it will starts searching for that connection at that time i can able to see the name of the connection
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Helpme123456789,  err. the package name dosent have a space in it as far as i know.
[05:56] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: go to system settings
[05:56] <Helpme123456789> yhea
[05:57] <Helpme123456789> I know
[05:57] <danny4way> | |arifaX, Thank you
[05:57] <fictionalhippo> ok im there
[05:57] <Helpme123456789> but its to late
[05:57] <Dr_willis> so i dont even see how it did anything  with '1.6'   being an invalid package name
[05:57] <tigrang> Helpme123456789: can't you stop it and re-install whats its uninstalling
[05:57] <Helpme123456789> tryed ctrl c
[05:57] <Helpme123456789> did not stop
[05:57] <danny4way> But I've got other windows program to install too. Because I was a windows user. And I just moved to Ubuntu a few months ago since it's summer break.
[05:57] <Helpme123456789> it just uninstalled everything
[05:57] <Helpme123456789> all icons
[05:57] <Helpme123456789> all apps
[05:57] <danny4way> My school is gonna be open soon so I need all those windows program.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Helpme123456789,  ctrl-c should definatly stop. and i dont see how it even ran being an invalid command.
[05:58] <Helpme123456789> console stopped at configring virtualbox
[05:58] <danny4way> Example: I tried to install iTunes a few days ago because I need to update my iPhone but it shows the same thing about 32 bit problem
[05:58] <Helpme123456789> it might be a bug idk
[05:58] <Helpme123456789> but it should not have uninstalled everything
[05:58] <MonkeyDust> brb
[05:58] <tigrang> Helpme123456789: I cant tried it, and yea I get an error, its not uninstalling everything lol
[05:58] <tigrang> I just tried it*
[05:59] <tigrang> Helpme123456789: try re-installing what it uninstalled, if not, you can back up ur files and re-install
[05:59] <fictionalhippo> mJayk, i was searching all through the system setting earlier trying to find it but came up with nothing. Hopefully you can.
[06:00] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: bugger i made a spelling mistake
[06:00] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: try ndisgtk
[06:00] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: in console
[06:01] <mJayk> you may need to run it as root
[06:02] <fictionalhippo> ok mJayk, so i have it pulled up.
[06:02] <mJayk> you get the window?
[06:02] <Helpme123456789> its still running ctrl_C is not stoping it
[06:02] <Helpme123456789> i want to see the command I put in
[06:02] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: ok now i thin k you need to go to insert new driver
[06:03] <Helpme123456789> is there another key to stop the term
[06:03] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: then locate the .inf file on the install cd, im not sure which .inf file there may be 2 or 3 but you should beable to work out which one i.e. 32 or 64 bit etc
[06:03] <Helpme123456789> before it uninstalls firefox
[06:03] <Helpme123456789> lol
[06:03] <aeon-ltd> Helpme123456789: uninstalling firefox is no biggie
[06:03] <mJayk> Helpme123456789: try sudo killall terminal ? :p
[06:03] <aeon-ltd> just reinstall it
[06:03] <kunji> I wouldn't stop it
[06:03] <Helpme123456789> its uninstalling the term
[06:03] <Helpme123456789> LOL
[06:04] <Helpme123456789> there went crome
[06:04] <Helpme123456789> there went the unity menu
[06:04] <clue_h> you're saving disk space.
[06:04] <Helpme123456789> D:
[06:04]  * Dr_willis waits for it to remove his irc client.
[06:04] <Dr_willis> since i couldent get it to repeate the problem either.
[06:04] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: any luck ?
[06:04] <Helpme123456789> xchat is gone
[06:05] <kunji> Might as well let it finish, then install it all again.  You don't want your packages in an inconsistent state, which could very well happen if you kill the process.
[06:05] <Helpme123456789> im using webchat in firefox
[06:06] <Helpme123456789> ok its done
[06:06] <fictionalhippo> ok mJayk, so i didn't get any errors and just for saftey i tried to install it a second time and it says driver is already installed. Only, im still not getting any wireless activity.
[06:06] <Helpme123456789> I up arrowed the last command I typed
[06:06] <Helpme123456789> http://pastebin.com/LypVXNAf
[06:07] <clue_h> Helpme123456789, now check /var/log/apt and see what happened
[06:07] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: ok now (you may need to restart) try ip link show again
[06:07] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: it should come up with number 3 now
[06:09] <dex> hello guys
[06:09] <Balroth> Allo all
[06:09] <mJayk> haya dex Balroth
[06:09] <fictionalhippo> ok mJayk, im gonna restart it and try the command because it's still not showing it. It'll be a few minutes.
[06:09] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: sure
[06:10] <Balroth> Has anyone done VimADventure?
[06:11] <dwane> hello, everyone... does this channel provide any tech support?  =)
[06:11] <mJayk> dwane: it attepts to :)
[06:11] <Dr_willis> only to those that ask support related questions.
[06:11] <Balroth> We try to dwane
[06:11] <dwane> i'm having an issue with totem-audio-preview
[06:12] <kunji> dwane: That the one where it plays sound when you mouse-over the file?
[06:13] <maxiPad3gs> runnin 13.04 desktop on a thinkpad. cant get conky to run at startup. it said that it added it to startup menu during the setup on the terminal/. but i have to ad it manually to startup applications? what is the command for the command box and what should i name it? How to get conky to start up at login? i didi already add it to startup applications with command "conky" but nothing.
[06:13] <dwane> normally when i hover over an audio icon i can hear it played, but now it doesn't -- the sound preferences show totem-audio preview opening/playing the file but the mute checkbox is selected
[06:13] <Dr_willis> That  'feature' has scared the snot out of more then 1 people i know kuji  ;)
[06:14] <kunji> Dr_willis: I thought it disappeared by now, no?
[06:14] <dwane> so how do i unselect the mute option?
[06:14] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  the conky faq mentions adding a little script to run it in your ~/.config/autostart (or was it autorun) directory
[06:14] <Dr_willis> kunji,  i thought it had been removed also.
[06:14] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  basically the script  sleeps for like 30 sec, then runs conky.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  seen examples of this at the conky faq/docs and on askubuntu.com  Im not onmy ubuntu box to pastebin mine.
[06:15] <kunji> dwane: I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about, I also need to sleep.  You should probably give full details and someone else will probably be able to help.
[06:15] <fictionalhippo> alright mJayk, so that didnt seem to work. Im still getting the same message when i enter ip link show and there is still no wireless activity.
[06:16] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: ok i found this while you were away
[06:16] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=Main_Page
[06:16] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: see if you can find your wireless usb thing on there
[06:16] <mJayk> itll tell you what .inf file to use and if other people have had sucess
[06:17] <caf4926> *really ndiswrapper is a last resort
[06:17] <beyondcr> Back had to boot off live disc I was just here under the Helpme... username
[06:17] <hdon> hi all :) i have an interesting one for everyone... if i find my computer's clock is 24 hours behind, how can i begin to track down "when" this happened?
[06:17] <maxiPad3gs> until i get this figured out, can i just manually run conky from the terminal each time i start up? how to do that? just type conky in terminal from @myname? and then can i close the terminal window becaue when i do that it warns me that a script is still running but when i close it anyway conky still continues to run until logout?
[06:18] <caf4926> hdon: so instead of 6pm is says 6pm
[06:18] <hdon> caf4926, ha, yes
[06:18] <mJayk> caf4926: its quite common for usb wireless adapts
[06:18] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  the command is 'conky' correct...  if you want to use conky, you really should go to the conky homepage and read some of its docs.
[06:18]  * hdon is glad he doesn't have to ndiswrapper anymore
[06:18] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  run 'conky' then 'exit' at the terminal
[06:19] <caf4926> mJayk: did you find the id of the chip it uses
[06:19] <maxiPad3gs> Dr_willis: i have all last night and today. my new policy is to never waste your time until i have crawled the forums. i am just a hopeless noob is all
[06:19] <Just1n> Really, Conky was just taking up resources and making my screens do weird things when I used to use it about a year ago.  I don't know if it's better now.
[06:19] <mJayk> caf4926: i assume thats what is being looked up atm :)
[06:19] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  i think the conky faq was rather exacting in how to make that startup script.
[06:20] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  its a 3 line script.. #!/bin/bash     sleep 30    conky     (if i recall)
[06:20] <beyondcr> here is whats in apt history.log
[06:20] <maxiPad3gs> Dr_willis: let me go back and re read it all then thank you.
[06:20] <caf4926> *wireless USB devices are so cheap it's easier just to get one that works IMO
[06:20] <beyondcr> http://pastebin.com/xS3i8GWW
[06:20] <beyondcr> why would it remove all that just by putting apt-get remove wine 1.6
[06:20] <Dr_willis> getting conky started should be easy.. getting it configured how you like.. .thats harder.
[06:20] <mJayk> caf4926: i dont really think thats the point :) someone has already purchased the hardware and just want it to work
[06:21] <beyondcr> ok so I was not looking
[06:21] <beyondcr> when I pressed y and enter
[06:21] <beyondcr> was just thinking it was wine till it was to late
[06:22] <caf4926> mJayk: work, fair enough but with some half baked windows .inf from a near obsolete OS
[06:22] <beyondcr> but even still if you do apt-get remove 1.6 it wants to remove just about everything
[06:22] <mJayk> caf4926: work correct
[06:22] <maxiPad3gs> Dr_willis: you are talking about the source forge faq page right? i am going to go over this agin and hopefully get it thanks
[06:23] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  i just recall going to the actual conky homepage with like 10000 examples.. been using conky for literally years now..  (decades?)   every so often theres a resuragnce of people what want to play with it. thenit dies down. then comes back
[06:23] <beyondcr> and having wine installed did not let it get to the error unable to locate package it thought i wanted to remove both things?
[06:23] <maxiPad3gs> ok got it thanks im out.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> maxiPad3gs,  there should be some guides and config tools for it on the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites also
[06:24] <maxiPad3gs> okty
[06:24] <Dr_willis> beyondcr,  sudo apt-get remove 1.6 seems to a 'wildcard'  everything it asks to remove here has '1.6' in its name
[06:25] <Dr_willis> 1.6 is a 'regular experssion' for 1(pattern)6
[06:26] <beyondcr> Dr_willis: why would it remove nautilus and network-manager and others that donot say 1.6
[06:26] <Dr_willis> beyondcr,  for example 'sudo apt-get remove lib.' will as to remove everything with lib in its name
[06:26] <Dr_willis> 1.6 also matches 16 and<PHONE_NUMBER>16 and a lot of other patterns
[06:26] <Quest> can anyone tell me please how to dim down an image in krita?
[06:26] <beyondcr> interesting
[06:26] <Dr_willis> so the lesson is.. be CAREFULL with wildcards. ;)
[06:27] <Dr_willis> well 'regular expressions'
[06:27] <Dr_willis> and for the record.. apt-get does support tab completion
[06:27] <beyondcr> yeah lol I think I learned a little from this one.
[06:27] <beyondcr> well i might aswell reinstall now
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Hmmm saw THIS interesting message for apt-get..
[06:27] <beyondcr> thanks for the time Dr_willis
[06:28] <Dr_willis> 'you are abut to do somthing potentially harmfull'
[06:28] <Dr_willis> to continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'
[06:28] <Dr_willis> that was at the end of the 'apt-get remove lib.' example
[06:30] <beyondcr> just caught me off guard because I had installed wine from unofficial repos and could not remember the version I wanted to reinstall the offical version
[06:31] <beyondcr> just need to stop saying yes to stuff so quickly
[06:32] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get remove wine<tab>
[06:32] <Dr_willis> ;)
[06:32] <beyondcr> yhea for some reason the tab auto complete is not doing anything
[06:33] <Dr_willis> make sure thers no space after the wine
[06:33] <Dr_willis> >hic<
[06:33] <beyondcr> auto tab works fine with file names and cd
[06:33] <beyondcr> just not doing anything in apt
[06:34] <aeon-ltd> beyondcr: double tap?
[06:34] <Dr_willis> well night all.
[06:34] <beyondcr> whats a good program to test auto tab on live disc
[06:35] <aeon-ltd> autocomplete tab?
[06:35] <beyondcr> yhea
[06:35] <fictionalhippo> ok mJayk, sorry about the wait but i found one that is similar to it. The only one closest to mine is the F9L1101v1 mine is F9L1101v2. Do you think it could still be compatable?
[06:35] <aeon-ltd> anything, firefox?
[06:35] <beyondcr> yhea its not working
[06:36] <aeon-ltd> beyondcr: uptime? uname?
[06:36] <beyondcr> i can type apt-g and press tab and it completes
[06:36] <beyondcr> but anything after that it dose nothing
[06:37] <beyondcr> who knows maybe it needs to be updated
[06:38] <N4SSO> could it be that you have an alias set? type 'alias' to get a list.
[06:40] <Munim> I am using ubuntu 13.04 and eclipse ide for java keplar.. it keeps slowing down after starting till it becomes unusable.. Can anyone point out what could be wrong?
[06:40] <beyondcr> on live disc going to hop off to backup some files before I get owned
[06:40] <Munim> and it gives some reindexing error
[06:42] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: Id give it ago its a shame really as im not to sure to be honest
[06:43] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: was the .inf in the location that they mentioned on that site for that card?
[06:43] <fictionalhippo> mJayk: I didn't look, let me check real fast.
[06:44] <punkmexic> hello
[06:44] <punkmexic> is there a way
[06:44] <mJayk> punkmexic: highway ?
[06:44] <punkmexic> the operators put this link on topic http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge
[06:45] <punkmexic> ubuntu edge can be a great phone only if we support it
[06:45] <punkmexic> it will be a shame if the goal is not reached :(
[06:45] <punkmexic> i feel is not gonna be reached
[06:49] <fictionalhippo> mJayk: So i went ahead and removed the drivers and tried to reinstall them and this is the erro i got. "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found." What should i do?
[06:49] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: you did that via the same method as before ?
[06:50] <fictionalhippo> mJayk: yep. is there something i need to install?
[06:50] <mJayk> no you installed taht
[06:50] <mJayk> i believe
[06:51] <fictionalhippo> im so confused lol
[06:51] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: you tried to uninstall it via ndisgtk yes
[06:52] <fictionalhippo> mJayk: yeah
[06:52] <mJayk> fictionalhippo: have you tried the configure network button inside that program ?
[06:53] <fictionalhippo> mJayk: yeah i tried configuring it and it only shows the ethernet connection.
[06:54] <mJayk> :( im not to sure what to do either then im sorry either try posting on http://ubuntu-discourse.org/
[06:54] <mJayk> or wait around in here some1 else may know more than me
[06:54] <A1Recon> I uninstalled Chrome from Ubuntu using sudo apt-get purge google-chrome-stable  . Do I need to do something else to remove any other files remaining??
[06:55] <petoo> Hi
[06:56] <petoo> !recovery
[06:57] <petoo> What was the link to recover files and folders?
[06:57] <petoo> !recover files
[06:57] <bazhang> !undelete | petoo
[06:57] <petoo> thanks
[06:57] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | A1Recon
[07:05] <BlitzHere> Hi all, I need some pointers. I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 off of a USB stick that I created using UNetBootin. I also made reserved 9999MB as I need it to save data after each reboot. Basically I need it to behave sort of like puppy linux.
[07:05] <BlitzHere> IProblem is, no data is saved after each reboot....
[07:07] <mJayk> BlitzHere: you enabled persistance ?
[07:07] <BlitzHere> I made the bootable stick using Lubuntu 13.04, and I have two partitions on the USB stick. A 11.44 GB ext4 partition and a 3 GB swap partition
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> BlitzHere, You need it persistent unetbootin offers that, or you can make a partition and name it casper-rw for a persistent bigger than 4 gigs offered by unetbootin
[07:07] <BlitzHere> I did
[07:07] <A1Recon> bazhang: Cant i use sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[07:08] <bazhang> A1Recon, install ppa-purge and run it
[07:08] <wilee-nilee> BlitzHere, the iso needs only one gig, a swap is optional.
 wilee-nilee : I did. Made it 9999MB and I used ext4 to get past the 4gig limit
[07:09] <wilee-nilee> BlitzHere, How did you make the persistent?
[07:09] <BlitzHere> 11.44 GB ext4 partition and a 3 GB swap partition on 16 GB stick
[07:11] <BlitzHere> wilee-nilee: Space to save data across reboots option in UnetBootIn. The space you can reserve is listed in MB and goes upto 9999. However FAT32 has a 4GB file size limit. So, I made an ext4 partition in the usb stick and got the full 9999MB
[07:12] <BlitzHere> It boots fine, and I have a casper-rw 10GB in size but data wasn't preserved.
[07:12] <BlitzHere> Was ext4 a mistake?
[07:13] <Coburn> no, you're doing it wrong
[07:13] <Coburn> :P
[07:13] <Coburn> I believe there's an option inside Ubuntu to make a bootable USB
[07:13] <Coburn> so you can boot from the Live Image and then use the USB wizard
[07:13] <wilee-nilee> BlitzHere, Been awhile sinnce I did this but the iso should be on a small partition like 1 gig a separate partition for the casper-rw and the sap is optional, but honestly with 16 gigs I would do a full install.
[07:14] <soman> dmesg prints something about bluetooth http://paste.kde.org/p68828f6c/50819631/ (from line 783). What does it mean? Is here something for bluetooth used and how can I disable it if I don't use bluetooth?
[07:15] <Coburn> soman: nothing to be concerned, means the bluetooth subsystems have been initialized
[07:15] <Coburn> also means bluetooth is supported on the kernel
[07:16] <BlitzHere> Coburn, wilee-nilee: I'm running the live image right now. should I make another live DVD/USB stick and try to Install on to the 16 GB USB flash drive?
[07:16] <Coburn> yeah
[07:16] <Coburn> the thing is, do the full install on the USB
[07:16] <Coburn> GRUB is smart enough to find the root FS on the USB stick
[07:17] <Coburn> your speed may vary
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> I would do a full install, has to be a manual install, and pointbe sure grub is pointed to the usb's mbr
[07:17] <soman> Coburn: thanks
[07:17] <Coburn> no prob soman
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> I would not say grub is smart enough, the something other manual install might default grub to the usb;s mbr I would just make sure.
[07:23] <Guest42577> Hey guys, I left my computer up from yesterday, when I logged in to my ubuntu 13.04 I found that every thing running slowly, I thought ubuntu would never do that, Is there any explanation why do this happen and how to fix it?
[07:23] <murgero_> hello
[07:23] <murgero_> I am in need of some help
[07:23] <dattashantih> Guest42577: top
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> Guest42577, Run top in the terminal and see whats eating the cpu and gpu
[07:24] <murgero_> Anyone have any idea on porting ubuntu touch?
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> !touch | murosai_
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> murgero_^^^^^^^^^
[07:25] <RayWizard> what is the default way to hibernate in ubuntu? i messed up system a bit, when hibernating it has "s2disk saving snapshot" and stuff log, but i when i boot, while it prints that it restores image it actualy boots to empty desktop
[07:26] <RayWizard> how to resinstall default way of hibernation as default
[07:26] <Kuroshita> Am I able to remove icons from the systray? For example, Tomahawk is in the tray when open by default but I don't want it to.
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> Kuroshita, Tray in what desktop?
[07:27] <Kuroshita> unity
[07:27] <dattashantih> Kuroshita: you used to be able to do it in dconf-editor
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> Kuroshita, You mean the panel on the left?
[07:27] <Kuroshita> on the right at the top
[07:27] <wilee-nilee> dconf may be it
[07:28] <Kuroshita> it's ugly and not mono so I want to hide it
[07:28] <bita> my mouse click every 2-3 second.please help me?
[07:28] <wilee-nilee> bita, Do you have another mouse to see if it is that mouse?
[07:28] <bita> i change the mouse.it's software
[07:29] <bazhang> !details | bita
[07:29] <dattashantih> Kuroshita: there is a systray-whitelist
[07:29] <dattashantih> Kuroshita: under desktop->unity->panel
[07:29] <Kuroshita> oh neat, where? dattashantih
[07:29] <Kuroshita> sweet thanks I'll give it a go
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> Kuroshita, What release is it?
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> I just see this is why I ask. http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/unity-notification-area-systray.html
[07:31] <Kuroshita> wilee-nilee, 13.04
[07:31] <Guest42577> dattashantih, wilee-nilee , java takes about 25% and firefox about 14%
[07:32] <Kuroshita> dattashantih, I can't find the option in 13.04
[07:32] <wilee-nilee> Kuroshita, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/02/unity-notification-area-systray.html
[07:32] <Guest42577> dattashantih, wilee-nilee , how to order the rows according to mem usage
[07:32] <bita> bazhang: my mouse clicking every 2-3 sec. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 .when i create new user it's ok at first but later it gonna be same
[07:32] <dattashantih> Kuroshita: they may have removed it, i haven't used unity in a while
[07:32] <odinsbane> Can I upgrade ubuntu but keep the same ssh keys?
[07:33] <odinsbane> Sorry, not just upgrade but a full reinstall.
[07:33] <dattashantih> odinsbane: just  backup .ssh/id*
[07:33] <bita> ubottu:my mouse clicking every 2-3 sec. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 .when i create new user it's ok at first but later it gonna be same
[07:34] <Kuroshita> wilee-nilee, oh right, tomahawk is qt so I suppose I should be asking how to remove appindicators, or I suppose I could remove the sni-qt package
[07:34] <odinsbane> dattashantih: so as long as I keep the save private/public key pairs it should be ok?
[07:35] <DuncanNZ> why are there 3 floodbots?
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> Kuroshita, Not sure of a plan of action myself
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> DuncanNZ, Becasue 4 was to many.
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[07:35] <dattashantih> odinsbane: yeah, unless you want to also keep your known_hosts and authorized_keys
[07:35] <DuncanNZ> wilee-nilee: lol but is there an actual reason for more than one?
[07:36] <wilee-nilee> DuncanNZ, Probably just a backup plan so they are always running
[07:36] <dattashantih> Guest42577: type ? in top, it differes between the distros
[07:37] <MonkeyDust> DuncanNZ  in case there's a netsplit and a floodbot should be cut off from the network
[07:37] <odinsbane> dattashantih: no, it is mainly so that I can keep access to a remote server that requires public key authorization. The guy running the server is hard to get ahold of if I need to change public keys.
[07:37] <DuncanNZ> wilee-nilee: ah yes, by whois-ing them all they all come from different locations
[07:37] <DuncanNZ> MonkeyDust: oh, ok makes sense now. thanks
[07:37] <Kuroshita> wilee-nilee, yeah I removed the sni-qt package, nothing is having a fit. I'm ok with this
[07:38] <wilee-nilee> Kuroshita, excellent in the voice of Mr Burns
[07:38] <dattashantih> odinsbane: then you should be fine with the just the key pair
[07:38] <bita> my mouse clicking every 2-3 sec. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 .when i create new user it's ok at first but later it gonna be same.i changed mouse and change destktop to unity(now gnome) but nothing changed.
[07:38] <dattashantih> odinsbane: just make sure it is from the correct user, if you have more than one
[07:39] <bita> plz help me
[07:39] <ffio> i have created lfs and i want to add ubuntu installer to it, how can i do it ?
[07:41] <TheJHNZ> Could I get some of you to answer my survey please? http://goo.gl/vgIRWo
[07:41] <bita> bazhang: my mouse clicking every 2-3 sec. I'm running Ubuntu version 12.04 .when i create new user it's ok at first but later it gonna be same.i changed mouse and change destktop to unity(now gnome) but nothing changed.
[07:41] <ikonia> TheJHNZ: we don't do surveys/polls in the channel
[07:41] <TheJHNZ> Sorry ! Didnt know
[07:41] <ikonia> TheJHNZ: not a problem
[07:42] <ikonia> TheJHNZ: I'd advise caution against spamming it in other channels as you are doing now
[07:42] <TheJHNZ> Was just posting it in a couple :)
[07:56] <justaguy> y
[07:56] <justaguy> yo
[07:57] <dattashantih> hello
[07:59] <justaguy> all that quits and joins
[07:59] <justaguy> xd
[07:59] <DJones> Thats normal for this channel, you can hide them in your IRC client if you want
[07:59] <q_> Hello
[08:00] <justaguy> well freenode is huge
[08:00] <q_> Can I ask something?
[08:00] <blazemore> !ask | q_
[08:01] <justaguy> :D
[08:01] <Lunar_LanderU> hello, got a question on harddrive permissions: I got a second drive in my PC now and I had to go to drive manager, format it with ext3 and then also had to tick "Become Owner of this drive"
[08:01] <Lunar_LanderU> do I have to do this every time?
[08:01] <Lunar_LanderU> i.e. what if the prime drive crashes and I have to get a new one?
[08:02] <Lunar_LanderU> I wouldn't want to format the second drive
[08:02] <ikonia> you don't need to touch the second drive
[08:02] <Lunar_LanderU> yeah but when I first installed it, ubuntu saw the drive, but it refused to copy to it at first
[08:02] <Lunar_LanderU> it said "you are not the owner"
[08:02] <ikonia> Lunar_LanderU: you are the owner now, so it's fine
[08:03] <Lunar_LanderU> yeah
[08:03] <q_> I've installed ruby, rvm, ruby gems, and tried to install rails.It seems to be installed, but when i open new terminal window and type rails, terminal says that rails is not installed
[08:03] <Lunar_LanderU> what I meant is if the main drive crashes and the second then is some sort of backup
[08:03] <ikonia> q_: how did you install rails ?
[08:03] <q_> gem
[08:03] <q_> gem install rails
[08:03] <ikonia> Lunar_LanderU: the second drive is not a backup
[08:03] <Lunar_LanderU> ok
[08:03] <ikonia> q_: there you go then, that is not the ubuntu package manager, that is internal to ruby
[08:04] <Lunar_LanderU> so if the first drive malfunctions, the second one is lost?
[08:04] <ikonia> Lunar_LanderU: no the second one is just that a second drive, containing whatever data you put on it
[08:04] <Lunar_LanderU> yea
[08:04] <odinsbane> q_: did you have to use sudo when you did gem install rails?
[08:05] <q_> nope i didnt
[08:05] <q_> should i?
[08:05] <odinsbane> q_: no.
[08:05] <odinsbane> q_: It probably installed it to a local directory, if you add it to your path you should be able to use rails.
[08:06] <q_> please say me how to add it to PATH
[08:06] <odinsbane> q_: If you do not know how to add it to your path you might want to use the ubuntu package manager. IE apt-get install rails
[08:07] <q_> Thanks a lot for helping!
[08:07] <q_> Bye
[08:08] <maxiPad3gs> i have just noticed that the "unity-scope-gdr" is very active on my desktop in the background like all the time. is this normal?
[08:10] <kike__> hi, does anybody knows how to open regular torrent files with anomos??
[08:10] <MonkeyDust> kike__  ubuntu has deluge and transmission
[08:12] <q_> You was right, problem was with path.I edited .bashrc and it seems to be working
[08:12] <q_> Thanks!
[08:13] <maxiPad3gs> i fixed my problem with Conky by startup applications command conky -p 30. giving it a 30 second wait time. and then the blinking screen fix was editing the .conkyrc file to "own_window no" from "yes"
[08:13] <Lunar_LanderU> thanks again ikonia
[08:17] <justaguy> ubuntu + laptops = pain in the ass
[08:17] <ikonia> justaguy: don't need random comments
[08:17] <MonkeyDust> justaguy  works fine here
[08:18] <justaguy> I had alot off problems with my wlan and my LAN , my cd-drive and my USB ports
[08:18] <justaguy> But, once you have it working , it's great :D
[08:21] <Amunere> 00x01
[08:22] <justaguy> it works very good to be honest
[08:23] <ikonia> right, so your earlier comment was just nonsense
[08:25] <justaguy> ikonio : Yes but it was kind off frustrating to get it working
[08:29] <Tantor> Hello. I am installing a private cloud with MAAS. Now I have a problem on one node, on the screen keeps coming this error: bmc-config:1625 map pfn expected mapping type uncached-minus for 8f669000-8f66a000, got write back. And after a while the node will just shutdown. On the webinterface the node does show up as 'ready'
[08:29] <Tantor> I searched on google, but I can't find anything about this error
[08:29] <justaguy> "Have you tried switching it on and off" oww wait this is #ubuntu :d
[08:30] <ikonia> justaguy: stop now
[08:30] <ikonia> justaguy: if you can't help someone - don't speak, stop making silly comments please.
[08:30] <justaguy> lets catch some sleep i'm making non sense comments when i'm tired
[08:35] <echevemaster> Tantor: you did an update of BMC firmware?
[08:39] <echevemaster> Tantor: what's the out of the lpmi service?
[08:39] <echevemaster> Can be a hardware or firmware issue, or the driver doesn't charged in the kernel
[08:44] <blazemore> When you run Skype for the first time, it pops up a GUI asking you to accept the Terms of Use. Is there any way to accept these terms from the command line, so I can use Finch with Skype on my headless server?
[08:44] <ikonia> blazemore: no, I beleive its gui driven only
[08:45] <blazemore> ikonia: I wonder if I copied my Skype directory from the desktop if it'd work
[08:46] <echevemaster> blazemore: afaik, skype doesn't have a cli interface
[08:48] <echevemaster> Finch only is the cli version of pidgin
[08:49] <metxas> hi every brody
[08:50] <dattashantih> hello
[08:50] <FleaFlicker> allo
[08:50] <lasers> blazemore: http://wiki.bitlbee.org/HowtoSkype -- Somewhat relevant. It is possible that you still have to run the Skype (GUI) on headless server(?). :o
[08:51] <blazemore> Thanks lasers - I should have guessed bitlbee would be easier to find resources for than Finch
[08:53] <[[thufir]]> how do you install dns?  I'm not running a server..
[08:54] <blazemore> !details | [[thufir]] What are you trying to achieve
[09:01] <hack13> not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I am having issues with a new installation of ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64bit on one of my dedicated servers.
[09:03] <DJones> hack13: This loks like the right place, feel free to explain the problem here, or if its Ubuntu server you could also ask in #ubuntu-server (which a server specific channel, but will have less people in)
[09:06] <dazzle> I have eth0 and eth1 (integrated & pci-e). Normally only eth0 is in use. When I plug in eth1, everything starts to go through that interface - and I don't want this. I want to use eth0 for it. I want to use eth1 specifically to be a bridged adapter to Virtualbox. How do I do this?
[09:06] <[[thufir]]> blazemore: I don't want to use the DNS from my ISP, but an "open" dns installed locally.
[09:07] <nxis> hi
[09:08] <blazemore> [[thufir]]: You can change your DNS settings in network manager
[09:08] <blazemore> [[thufir]]: Do you already have your local DNS set up?
[09:08] <[[thufir]]> no, I don't have local dns.  that's what I was trying to ask.
[09:08] <blazemore> What have you tried?
[09:08] <[[thufir]]> I didn't know the term.  I looked through apt-cache, but don't want a server.  I'll google local dns.
[09:09] <blazemore> You do want a server
[09:09] <[[thufir]]> oh, ok.
[09:09] <blazemore> But it depends what you want to achieve from this
[09:09] <[[thufir]]> I only want to do lookup (www.whatever to ip address) because I think my ISP does it crummy (I think)
[09:10] <blazemore> It will have to look up from your ISP at some point
[09:10]  * [[thufir]] thinks
[09:10] <solars> hey, can anyone suggest a lightweight email client (graphical)? I'm getting tired of this huge thunderbird monster
[09:10] <blazemore> If you aren't happy using your ISP's servers why not use another open public DNS server like Google or OpenDNS
[09:10] <blazemore> solars: Claws is lightweight
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: is this as a permanent seting, or just for one resolution now?
[09:11] <[[thufir]]> solars: probably you just need to not download everything.  it's the sync settings.
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> solars: claws-mail
[09:11] <[[thufir]]> ActionParsnip: permanent.  I think I want opendns for local purposes.
[09:11] <blazemore> [[thufir]]: So change your DNS settings to use OpenDNS, you don't need to run a local caching DNS server, it's overkill
[09:11]  * [[thufir]] goes off to look into opendsn.
[09:11] <[[thufir]]> thanks
[09:12] <ActionParsnip> [[thufir]]: you can use hosts to set the name to IP resolution if you want to force a certain IP
[09:13] <nxis> I have a question regarding, which distro to choose for my EeePC900 netbook. I've already tried Lubuntu and very liked it, however lubuntu 12.04 is not LTS and 13.04 is quite buggy. Therefore I tried vanilla 12.04 Ubuntu, but it seems quite laggy on my netbook. Should I try xubuntu 12.04 or simply install another DE?
[09:13] <blazemore> nxis: Xubuntu is fairly lightweight
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> nxis: +1 for Xubuntu
[09:14] <nxis> ok, then should I install from scratch or just add another DE?
[09:14] <blazemore> nxis: Or you could start with a Xubuntu base system, and install a super-lightweight window manager like Openbox (Similar to Crunchbang, a debian-based distro)
[09:14] <nxis> I've already tried awesome, and understood that i'm not yet ready for such environment =)
[09:15] <blazemore> nxis: If you don't need to stick with the Ubuntu route, Crunchbang is the best lightweight distro I've used
[09:16] <blazemore> But they provide instructions for how to add Crunchbang features to other distros too, so you could do that
[09:17] <nxis> and what about installing xubuntu? is there any differences between installing xubuntu from scratch, or adding corresponding packet via apt-get?
[09:18] <blazemore> nxis: You can install the "xubuntu-desktop" package
[09:19] <nxis> wouldn't there be some sort of conflicting applications (ubuntu/xubuntu)?
[09:19] <FleaFlicker> only difference i could think of is support
[09:19] <FleaFlicker> nah you can pick between the different desktops
[09:20] <ActionParsnip> nvyou can install the xfce4 package then log off and log in to the XFCE session in LightDM
[09:20] <solars> blazemore, ActionParsnip mm but claws doesn't support html emails right? some partners only send html crap..
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> solars: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_email_clients
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> solars: sylpheed maybe....
[09:22] <arash> Hello , I have problems updating steam client on ubuntu 13.04
[09:22] <solars> I'll have a look at that
[09:22] <arash> fatal error : steam needs to be online to update
[09:23] <nxis> btw, what about kubuntu 12.04? it seems to be also more efficient than ubuntu with unity?
[09:24] <nxis> i never liked kde however =)
[09:25] <nxis> in fact I'm looking for something widely enough spread (as ubuntu), but not so ugly and slowly (as unity)
[09:26] <FleaFlicker> lxde is light weight, i'm running xfce on my chromebook along side chrome, works ok
[09:27] <FleaFlicker> mouse support for laptops in xfce is terribad though
[09:28] <nxis> yeah, i liked lxde, but it seems to have rather limited community: as I said before, 13.04 has too much issues, and 12.04 does not have lts
[09:28] <FleaFlicker> 12.04 is lts
[09:29] <blazemore> lubuntu 12.04 isn;t, FleaFlicker
[09:29] <FleaFlicker> oh ic
[09:30] <FleaFlicker> have you tried unity in 2d mode? maybe it's not so bad?
[09:31] <nxis> yes, but i did not notice any performance advantages
[09:31] <nxis> also I prefer old style look'n'feel (like gnome 2)
[09:32] <FleaFlicker> hmm, maybe try linux mint then, or you can install cinnamon on unbuntu i believe
[09:33] <nxis> is there LTS in mint?
[09:33] <arash> Is there any fix ? :-( Im getting steam needs to be online to update
[09:33] <FleaFlicker> not 100% sure how they work, but i believe they track ubuntu, so it's possible
[09:34] <FleaFlicker> thought steam was only supported on 12.04
[09:34] <FleaFlicker> dont really pay attention to steam much
[09:36] <jost> Has someone had experience with NVIDIA fakeRAID? When rebuilding it in the BIOS tool, I regain control immediately, but the status of the array switches to "Rebuild". How and when is the real rebuild happening?
[09:38] <FleaFlicker> does fake RAID = software raid?
[09:38] <nxis> well thanks for your answers. i think i will give a try to xubuntu.
[09:38] <jost> FleaFlicker: No, its a hybrid
[09:39] <jost> Its supported by the mainboard, but needs software support from the OS
[09:40] <christian> where is ubuntu 13.10 http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[09:40] <__sjh> anyone know a quick command to get an interfaces current ipv4 address ONLY, for use elsewhere in a script, without chucking through a regex
[09:41] <__sjh> "ifconfig eth0 | awk 'BEGIN { FS = "\n"; RS = "" } { print $2 }' | sed -e 's/ .*addr://' -e 's/ .*//'"  is something i've found online but it seems a bit mental
[09:42] <k1l_> Guest18892: its not released yet. 13.10 means october 2013. for development support ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:42] <FleaFlicker> use hostname -I
[09:42] <FleaFlicker> that's a capital i
[09:43] <__sjh> FleaFlicker, that shows a loopback
[09:43] <__sjh> ah!
[09:43] <FleaFlicker> not lower case upper case
[09:43] <FleaFlicker> upper case shows ipv4 address
[09:44] <__sjh> a simpler regex to take output to first space is clean enough there i think
[09:45] <__sjh> FleaFlicker, thx!
[09:45] <FleaFlicker> your welcome
[09:52] <zrtuioo>  i would like to hack ubuntu website
[09:52] <zrtuioo> what i have to look for ?
[09:52] <blazemore> !ot | zrtuioo
[09:59] <StarOnD> Hello I tried to do boot repair, here is the url that was output >> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5924657/, it is still now working, can someone have a look and help me ?
[09:59] <ikonia> StarOnD: why did you do boot repair ?
[09:59] <blazemore> !details | StarOnD what problem are you having?
[10:00] <StarOnD> ikonia, I want a seperate copy of ubuntu 13.04 in addition to my current one,
[10:00] <ikonia> StarOnD: so why did you do bootrepair ?
[10:02] <StarOnD> so I got a live cd , partitioned my disk which already has win + ubuntu 13, added an entry to 40_custom as advised on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromLinux
[10:02] <gregor_> hey how can i be in 2 rooms at the same time in xchat ?
[10:02] <StarOnD> I wanted a seperate copy of ubuntu 13
[10:03] <blazemore> gregor_: just type /join #channel
[10:03] <StarOnD> how can I easily have multiple OS's and add them to grub2 ?
[10:03] <ikonia> StarOnD: I understand you want seperate copies, but that doesn't make sense why you are using bootrepair ?
[10:04] <ikonia> StarOnD: boot repair fixes failed booting, that has nothing to do with wanting a seperate copy
[10:05] <StarOnD> on that page it tells me to edit 40_custom for grub2. when I did that, it gave me an error kernel needs to be loaded or something similar
[10:05] <StarOnD> so it needed bootrepair