[00:00] <caseyd> *should have extracted it too, like what's the normal spot you would do it
[00:01] <EagleScreen> caseyd: lets see the README file
[00:01] <the_madman> EagleScreen: Cool, I'll have a snoop round for it. Thanks.
[00:02] <caseyd> EagleScreen: it doesn't really tell you how to do it... I figured maybe there was a normal procedure for .tgz files
[00:02] <EagleScreen> yes there is
[00:02] <EagleScreen> it is ./configure; make; sudo make install
[00:03] <EagleScreen> but this is different
[00:03] <caseyd> ahh okay
[00:04] <mozar> salut la planete hi the world
[00:04]  * caseyd writes that down =)
[00:04] <EagleScreen> caseyd: i think this is already compiled, you only need to run it
[00:05] <caseyd> oh okay
[00:05] <mozar> y a des french
[00:06] <caseyd> know how to run it heh?
[00:06] <caseyd> if you got a program that was already compliled and such, where would you put it on your harddrive?
[00:07] <EagleScreen> caseyd: first lets try to run it
[00:07] <EagleScreen> try ./phun
[00:08] <EagleScreen> look http://pastebin.ca/1552087
[00:08] <caseyd> that's what I got aswell
[00:09] <caseyd> i'll try and find those
[00:09] <caseyd> so if it worked, where would you put it?
[00:10] <EagleScreen> a local program as this should go in /opt
[00:10] <caseyd> ok
[00:10] <caseyd> thanks =)
[00:11] <EagleScreen> caseyd: put it better in /usr/local/
[00:11] <EagleScreen> and you can make a symlink of the executable in /usr/local/bin
[00:12] <caseyd> ok
[00:12] <caseyd> how would I add it to my start menu
[00:15] <the_madman> Meh, looks like too much trouble. Guess I'll leave it to Karmac...
[00:15] <Stunts> anyone know how to change the display refresh rate from a grub command?
[00:15] <EagleScreen> caseyd: Right clock on K-Menu -> Menu Editor
[00:16] <caseyd> awesome
[00:18] <caseyd> hey it works! thanks so much EagleScreen.
[00:18] <EagleScreen> caseyd: does application run for you?
[00:18] <caseyd> yep
[00:18] <caseyd> had to install those two missing libraries
[00:18] <EagleScreen> do you have a 32-bit system?
[00:19] <caseyd> yep
[00:19] <mozar> ok
[00:25] <caseyd> do you have to restart Application Launcher after you edit it or something, I added something under Games and Games isnt showing up at all
[00:40] <LuisJa> for some reason when i try to write a hotmail with shiretoko the big white box to write the body of the mail is freezed, the click doesnt appear inside it (cant write anything inside it), letter font and size are also freeze (most buttons freezed)
[00:40] <LuisJa> someone knows whats happening
[00:43] <gabex> yo =)
[00:43] <gabex> i think i like KDE4 even better than mac os x...
[00:43] <gabex> and that says something
[00:48] <dschulz> hi all!
[00:50] <dschulz> does anyone knows why the patch that fixes the kde bug 186745  was not applied in kubuntu packages?  Riddell ?
[00:51] <dschulz> upstream bug report is at https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=186745
[00:51] <dschulz> it seems that is fixed in Arch, Gentoo, etc
[00:51] <dschulz> but i still can reproduce
[00:52] <dschulz> http://i27.tinypic.com/2mqmc0n.png
[00:52] <dschulz> is a snapshot I took
[00:54] <Dragnslcr> dschulz- probably because Ubuntu didn't backport the fix
[00:56] <dschulz> Dragnslcr aha.. that's what i thought
[00:57] <dschulz> i hope gets included soon.. and we don't have to wait to 4.3.2
[01:01] <Dragnslcr> Is there a bug report in Launchpad for it? If not, the Ubuntu devs might not even know about it
[01:03] <dschulz> Dragnslcr: i'll see
[01:20] <dschulz> Dragnslc: filed a bug report in launchpad. Thank you for the suggestion
[02:06] <Someuser> is there anyway to reinstall ati drivers using the live cd?
[02:20] <Someuser> hello?
[02:20] <LuisJa> eaglescreen are u there?
[02:26] <Lichte> I don't think I like this quassel
[02:31] <Lichte> I just uncommented backports in the apt sources and Amarok got updated......it has a problem in that it starts every single song 7 seconds in......anyone have that problem or know how to fix it?
[02:37] <Someuser> Guess i'll just do a clean reinstall seeing how getting help isn't happening.
[02:42] <Lichte> I just uncommented backports in the apt sources and Amarok got updated......it has a problem in that it starts every single song 7 seconds in......anyone have that problem or know how to fix it?
[02:46] <Lichte> wow, I clicked on the Part button and Quassel crashed.........nice
[02:46] <marco> report that BUG!
[02:47] <marco> Lichte what KDE are you using?
[02:47] <marco> bugs.kde.org
[02:47] <marco> go there
[02:47] <Lichte> marco: the one that came with kubuntu
[02:47] <marco> 4.2.3
[02:47] <marco> go an update for 4.3
[02:47] <Lichte> marco: the default one
[02:47] <Lichte> marco: will that fix amarok too ?
[02:47] <marco> update for 4.3
[02:48] <marco> probably
[02:48] <Lichte> marco: I'll give it a try
[02:48] <marco> Kde 4.3 has fixed up many bugs!, aproxx 10.000
[02:48] <Lichte> I read that
[02:48] <Lichte> so is this Quassel the default irc client now ?
[02:48] <Lichte> I've never even heard of it
[02:49] <marco> probably
[02:49] <Lichte> great
[02:49] <marco> Lichte: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.1
[02:49] <Lichte> marco: I've already been to that page
[02:53] <LuisJa> before i used konversation, now i found quassel and i love it
[02:53] <LuisJa> i am loving it lol
[03:06] <BugsBunnyBR> hello all, I had updated my kde 4.3 to kde 4.3.1 and some plasmoids stop to work..someone knows why?
[03:09] <darthtuvok> BugsBunnyBR: happened to me as well
[03:09] <darthtuvok> Remove them then readd them
[03:10] <darthtuvok> do not reinstall them, just remove from the desktop and readd them via plasma
[03:10] <BugsBunnyBR> now is working, I guess is because a rebooted the machine..anyway..thanks..
[03:11] <darthanubis> np
[03:11] <darthanubis> 4.3x is solid
[03:11] <BugsBunnyBR> just one thing..the microblog..after I configure it ..still show me the "configure" button
[03:11] <BugsBunnyBR> do you know about it?
[03:13] <Mewtwo> What's a decent alternative wireless manager? I can't get the Plasma widget to connect, despite setting the right options.
[03:14] <yoos> I use wicd: http://wicd.net/
[03:14] <Mewtwo> Aha, thanks
[03:14] <yoos> np
[03:15] <darthanubis> Today marks its 40th birthday! In fall 1969, computers sending data between two California universities set the stage for the Internet,
[03:17] <Mewtwo> apparently, it conflicts with network-manager
[03:17] <vivid> hello, i have an issue with my plasma-desktop.  whenever i right click on an item on my desktop, plasma-desktop crashes and restarts.  is there anyway to fix this?
[03:17] <yoos> @mewtwo: yeah but that shouldn't be much of a problem
[03:18] <yoos> it just removes the plasma widget
[03:18] <yoos> which you can reinstall later (which, in turn, will remove wicd)
[03:19] <Mewtwo> I don't see wicd anywhere
[03:20] <yoos> you'll have to edit your repositories
[03:21] <Mewtwo> not exactly sure how to do that. :|
[03:21] <yoos> mk
[03:21] <yoos> from terminal
[03:21] <yoos> execute:
[03:21] <yoos> sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:22] <yoos> and add:
[03:22] <yoos> deb http://apt.wicd.net jaunty extras
[03:22] <yoos> I assume you know how to use vim?
[03:23] <yoos> once you've added that, run:
[03:23] <yoos> wget -q http://apt.wicd.net/wicd.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[03:28] <Mewtwo> haven't used vim much before
[03:29] <vivid> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:30] <Mewtwo> just used nano
[03:31] <Mewtwo> output just said "OK", yoos
[03:31] <Mewtwo> apparently wicd... still isn't installed
[03:32] <yoos> yeah what that last command does
[03:32] <yoos> is add a key
[03:32] <yoos> (i'm not too familiar with how repositories and keys work either, but)
[03:32] <yoos> now you can search apt
[03:32] <yoos> after updating it, then install
[03:32] <Mewtwo> still can't find package wicd
[03:32] <yoos> did you update?
[03:32] <Mewtwo> I'm about to just try the netbook remix thing
[03:33] <Mewtwo> still on 9.04
[03:33] <yoos> I meant
[03:33] <yoos> update apt, run:
[03:33] <yoos> sudo aptitude update
[03:33] <milo_> please who can help me to resize my desktop view?
[03:34] <Mewtwo> oh, sorry
[03:34] <Mewtwo> there we go, it's workign
[03:35] <Mewtwo> Depends: python-urwid but it is not installable
[03:35] <yoos> mk
[03:35] <yoos> hmm
[03:37] <yoos> does it give a reason why it's not installable?
[03:37] <Mewtwo> nope
[03:39] <yoos> try installing it manually
[03:39] <yoos> that is, sudo aptitude install python-urwid
[03:40] <Mewtwo> reports that it needs to get 0B of archives... hmm
[03:40] <Mewtwo> argh...
[03:41] <yoos> strange.. :)
[03:41] <Mewtwo> what is it that Linux wants to always be broken around me
[03:42] <Mewtwo> always something that doesn't want to work
[03:42] <yoos> haha it happens to me often as well
[03:42] <yoos> but it works out in the end
[03:42] <vivid> isnt that the fun part?
[03:42] <yoos> try reinstalling it this time
[03:42] <yoos> aptitude reinstall should do it
[03:44] <Mewtwo> 0b again...
[03:44] <Mewtwo> ugh
[03:44] <Mewtwo> I'll just see if 9.10 works
[03:45] <yoos> try running wicd to make sure it's actually not installed
[03:45] <Mewtwo> wicd: command not found
[03:45] <yoos> ah
[03:45] <yoos> sorry I couldn't help more :(
[03:46] <Mewtwo> if 9.10 doesn't work I'll have to screw around with Backtrack
[03:46] <Mewtwo> (which seems to work fine... there's a "wireless assistant" in it that I use)
[03:56] <nilsson> does anyone here have any experience with fglrx+xrandr?
[03:57] <airy> whats the problem?
[03:57] <nilsson> airy, I can't get my dual-head working correctly
[03:59] <bypass> bypass
[03:59] <bypass> hey all
[03:59] <airy> ah, never tried to set dual head with ATI. currently using dual monitors with nvidia card.
[04:00] <corigo> When Adept Package Manager tells me there are 8 blocked updates, why are they blocked and how can I install them?
[04:02] <airy> corigo: sometimes apt-get upgrade installs them.
[04:02] <nilsson> airy, like I was saying...
[04:02] <nilsson> I'm trying to get a dual-head setup
[04:02] <nilsson> second monitor rotated
[04:04] <airy> are you using compix/fusion?
[04:05] <nilsson> no, kwin
[04:05] <nilsson> kubuntu jaunty
[04:05] <airy> did you check this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158686
[04:06] <nilsson> no, but it looks good
[04:07] <nilsson> thanks
[04:07] <nilsson> airy++
[04:07] <airy> hope it helps you :)
[04:08] <nilsson> airy, I noticed that looks a little old (2006)
[04:09] <airy> just that topic was started in 2006
[04:19] <Johninlex> hey does anyone have time to help me set up kubuntu
[04:19] <Johninlex> I have made the switch from Ubuntu but everything is backwards
[04:19] <Johninlex> on Kubuntu
[04:30] <kubuntu_> I need help trying to locate my Hardware and see if i need drivers! some one kindly help a new linux user
[04:31] <nilsson> kubuntu_, try running: kdesudo jockey-kde
[04:32] <kubuntu_> it says no propreitry hardware in use on thi system
[04:33] <airy> i hope he doesnt looking for "My Hard Drive" icon on "My Computer" :)
[04:36] <kubuntu_> :( This Support Room dosent seem to do me any good
[04:36] <airy> kubuntu_: are you looking for an icon or smtng like that for accesing your harddrive?
[04:36] <kubuntu_> SOmething like that yes
[04:36] <kubuntu_> i jsut want to know if i have my drivers installed because i seem to be having some sort of un explainable lag
[04:36] <airy> KDE Menu > Computer > Root
[04:37] <airy> KDE Menu is similar to start menu
[04:37] <kubuntu_> Yes i saw that but how do i figure this driver thing out im trying to see if i have a radeon driver installed
[04:38] <airy> *nixes are different from windows, there is motomot equivalent of device manager
[04:39] <caseyd> im trying to install gmail-plasmoid-0.7.9.plasmoid ... I just get the error that it can't install, I have the newest version of kubuntu.. anyone in here use it?
[04:39] <kubuntu_> And where is this Motomot
[04:40] <airy> iim sorry i mean there is no motomot device manager application on linux
[04:40] <kubuntu_> Oh so are u telling me i cannot find if the drivers are installed ?
[04:40] <kubuntu_> thats hard to bileave :S
[04:41] <airy> "KDE Menu > Application > System > Hardware Drivers" helps for components which has custom drivers
[04:41] <airy> most of drivers are embedded in kernel or kernel modules
[04:42] <kubuntu_> It says No Propriatory drivers in use on this system
[04:43] <airy> so all components of your hardware need no custom drivers
[04:43] <kubuntu_> I see
[04:43] <kubuntu_> Can u tell me how to install firefox lol im new to all of this
[04:44] <airy> open a terminal
[04:44] <airy> type this: sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:45] <airy> also alt+F2 will bring you a popup to run commands/applications by typing
[04:49] <kubuntu_> i have this lag when i scroll down pages and play flash movies in firefox i have no clue whats wrong i thought it would be the drivers, would anyone know what i have not done!
[04:49] <airy> kubuntu_: what is your vga card?
[04:50] <kubuntu_> Radeon 7000 32MB
[04:51] <airy> are you using fglrx?
[04:52] <kubuntu_> i am new to linux no clue what that is :(
[04:52] <pteague> is there something that needs to be running in order for kate to work correctly?  for some reason when I try to use the open file dialog it's messing up...  i.e. no open dialog & if i alt+tab to some other window, then alt+tab back it doesn't repaint kate because it's still stuck...  i tried this last time to run it from a terminal to see if i could get it to dump some errors & i'm getting nothing after the initial `$ kate`
[04:54] <Mewtwo> it's too bad there's no netbook remix of Kubuntu 9.04 as far as I'm aware
[05:06] <LuisJa> hello can someone help me?
[05:06] <LuisJa> java page says i dont have the recommended java installed
[05:06] <LuisJa> but i dont know how to install the recommended
[05:09] <LuisJa> hello?
[05:12] <LuisJa> hello?
[05:14] <Quasar1048> Did you check synaptic for the package?
[05:15] <LuisJa> yes but there is a lot of java packages ¬¬
[05:16] <LuisJa> which one
[05:18] <LuisJa> ...
[05:19] <Quasar1048> I'm looking to see what I installed
[05:19] <areay1> ok so i see on the kubuntu site that kde 4.3 has been released, and that it's such a good idea to upgrade to it
[05:19] <areay1> and i see the screenshots and cool videos
[05:20] <areay1> and i make the decision to upgrade
[05:20] <Quasar1048> sun-java6-jre,sun-java6-fonts,sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-plugin
[05:20] <areay1> i'm now looking at a default kde background and a mouse cursor
[05:20] <Quasar1048> and if you need anything else, it should tell you...
[05:20] <areay1> is that directed at me Quasar1048
[05:21] <Quasar1048> no, at LuisJa
[05:21] <areay1> oh
[05:21] <LuisJa> dude
[05:21] <LuisJa> so
[05:21] <LuisJa> all those are installed
[05:21] <LuisJa> still i dont got recommended version
[05:21] <LuisJa> i wanna play runescape
[05:21] <Quasar1048> Firefox?
[05:21] <LuisJa> yes
[05:21] <LuisJa> restricted extras already installed
[05:21] <Quasar1048> yeah, that gave me trouble too...
[05:22] <areay1> now i understand that the packages aren't supported by canonical, blah blah blah.... but kubuntu.org recommended the upgrade, and now my kde is ruined... my computing experience is now limited to wiggling my cursor around
[05:22] <Quasar1048> cant remember right off the top of my head how I fixed it..
[05:22] <areay1> and getting to login to the fancy new kdm
[05:22] <areay1> was the suggestion to upgrade some kind of inside joke?
[05:24] <areay1> my pc is now essentially unusable
[05:24] <LuisJa> do this
[05:24] <LuisJa> sudo kill upgrade
[05:24] <LuisJa> sudo moo
[05:24] <LuisJa> lol
[05:25] <areay1> thanks for your input LuisJa
[05:25] <LuisJa> hahahaha
[05:25] <areay1> would anybody else like to contribute any of their wisdom?
[05:25] <LuisJa> i cannot still fucking play rune
[05:26] <areay1> you suck
[05:26] <areay1> almost as much as runescape
[05:26] <areay1> but not quite
[05:26] <Quasar1048> areay1: I know nothing about KDE, sorry..
[05:26] <LuisJa> lolz?
[05:26] <LuisJa> i am combat lvl 81 ;)
[05:26] <areay1> this is #kubuntu, right?
[05:26] <LuisJa> and runescape rocks ;)
[05:26] <areay1> c'mon  people i've already had my damn nick stolen
[05:27] <LuisJa> u started the discussion :D
[05:27] <areay1> lol
[05:27] <Quasar1048> LuisJa: command: cd /usr/lib/firefox/plugins && ls
[05:27] <Quasar1048> what does that come out with?
[05:27] <LuisJa> holda 1 sec
[05:28] <melissa> so, audio don't work
[05:28] <melissa> it does on every other distro I have tested, what's up
[05:28] <Quasar1048> brb
[05:28] <LuisJa> http://pastebin.ca/1552321
[05:28] <Panko> driver issue?
[05:28] <LuisJa> EI
[05:28] <melissa> (including ubuntu jaunty, and opensuse)
[05:29] <melissa> any way I can track down this audio driver issue and fix this?
[05:29] <melissa> I used to use alsa before, what does kubuntu use?
[05:29] <LuisJa> pulseaudio
[05:30] <melissa> can someone walk me through fixing pulseaudio?
[05:30] <Panko> Do you know what your sound card is?
[05:30] <melissa> not a clue, it's a toshiba laptop :(
[05:31] <Panko> Log in as root, do lspci.
[05:31] <melissa> k
[05:31] <Panko> It should be listed as audio device.
[05:32] <melissa> I grepped for audio and sound, and nothing
[05:32] <Panko> You shouldn't need to use grep, it's not that long of a list...
[05:33] <melissa> I don't see any sound devices on the list
[05:33] <melissa> a few amd things, a few ati things, and a couple realtek things
[05:33] <melissa> let me stick it all in a pastebin
[05:34] <Quasar1048> that looks good, LuisJa...
[05:34] <Quasar1048> you seem to be one of the unlucky ones.
[05:34] <melissa> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/264176/
[05:34] <Quasar1048> does the java appear under "extensions" in firefox?
[05:35] <areay1> can anybody here shed any light on failed kde 4.3 upgrades
[05:35] <Quasar1048> if so.. then the only thing I can tell you to do is re-install, possibly downgrading to jre5
[05:35] <Quasar1048> it seems to be more stable... but I got 6 working find somehow...
[05:35] <Panko> melissa: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[05:35] <melissa> oh XD I'm blind sorry
[05:37] <Quasar1048> sorry I cant be of more help... I'm here looking for help myself. :)
[05:38] <Quasar1048> good night everyone!
[05:43] <Panko> Nevermind. I just found it.
[05:43] <Panko> Is there any way to make Kubuntu's version of KDE more like Gentoo's?
[05:48] <melissa> omfg...
[05:48]  * melissa facepalms
[05:48] <melissa> it was muted
[05:48] <melissa> XD
[05:48] <melissa> thanks panko, take it eas
[05:48] <melissa> easy
[05:48] <FloodBotK1> melissa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:48] <FloodBotK2> melissa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:48] <Panko> Yeah...
[05:54] <areay1> anybody here upgraded to kde 4.3
[06:06] <melvi> hello
[06:07] <melvi> i need to find some expert in network manger-->vpn set up..
[06:07] <melvi> can anybody help out?
[06:12] <melvi> exit
[06:12] <Panko> ?
[06:34] <rabidweezle> does kubuntu do kernel updates correctly as in, does it automagically edit my /boot/grub/menu.list?
[06:35] <rabidweezle> it did a kernel update but when I rebooted it only shown 1 kernel on the list, and on regular ubuntu it would list the old kernel and the new one
[06:36] <rabidweezle> checking /boot, the only kernel I see is vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic
[06:48] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[06:53] <rabidweezle> night of the netsplits!
[06:53] <rabidweezle> welcome back splitters
[07:06] <marc-andre> hiho
[07:07] <marc-andre> i'm in karmic, and since now 4 weeks i don't have the plasma desktop anymore, despite all the daily updates... do i need to delete some config files manually for reactivating the plasma desktop ?
[07:13] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[07:32] <marc-andre> i'm in karmic, and since now 4 weeks i don't have the plasma desktop anymore, despite all the daily updates... do i need to delete some config files manually for reactivating the plasma desktop ?
[07:32] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[07:40] <nareshov> o
[07:45] <nilsson> how can I upgrade to karmic alpha?
[08:32] <marc-andre> i'm in karmic, and since now 4 weeks i don't have the plasma desktop anymore, despite all the daily updates... do i need to delete some config files manually for reactivating the plasma desktop ?
[08:59] <jonah1980> hey guys a backport update kernel has killed my machine, how do i install the kernel version down from the update from terminal. -15.49 instead of -15.51...
[09:28] <alvin> jonah1980: Did you remove your old kernel? I suppose not. Just boot with the old one.
[09:38] <shahul> ho frnz/.
[09:38] <shahul> hi frnz..
[09:38] <shahul> is possible to run winCVS in linux?
[09:39] <shahul> anybody tell me please?
[09:42] <tdn> How do I play a DVD in Kubuntu 9.04? When I insert the DVD, nothing happens...
[09:51] <alvin> tdn: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html
[10:00] <raj3186> guys
[10:00] <raj3186> my ktorrent webui isnt working properly
[10:00] <raj3186> after logging i see nothing else than a blank display
[10:05] <tdn> alvin, I have tried these instructions. But nothing happens when I insert the DVD.
[10:09] <alvin> tdn: Should there happen something? That's actually what I expect.  What do you see in the nice 'Devices recently plugged in' plasma widget thing?
[10:10] <tdn> alvin, nothing.
[10:10] <tdn> alvin, it is empty.
[10:11] <alvin> tdn: aha, then your disc isn't recognized. Maybe a non-standard format or a defective drive/disc? Look in the output of 'dmesg'
[10:12] <tdn> alvin, nothing in dmesg.
[10:12] <tdn> alvin, I can play this disc in Windows on the same machine.
[10:13] <tdn> So it should not be defective.
[10:17] <tdn> alvin, I just tried starting Kaffeine and clicked Play DVD. It works. But it is still not the the Recently inserted devices.
[10:18] <alvin> I wonder if a DVD has to be mounted in order to play.
[10:19] <alvin> Maybe you can try to mount it manually
[10:20] <alvin> td: $ isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom might give you some info about the format
[10:21] <tdn> alvin, http://thomasdamgaard.dk/paste/P1382.html
[10:23] <alvin> tdn: I see "BAD RRVERSION" there.  It doesn't seem to be installed by default in Karmic
[10:30] <alvin> zorael: '$ dpkg -S adoundconf' will tell you it's in alsa-utils
[10:30] <alvin> zorael: Sorry, that should be '$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/asoundconf'
[10:30] <tdn> alvin, the "fix" of this bug report is: "Both images are violating the Rock Ridge standard. You need to make a bug report against the utility that created the images." I am a bit disappointed in this. Maybe this DVD does vialoate this RR thing, but it does work fine in Windows and in a DVD player. So if we want t large user share, we cannot just tell people that this thing does not conform with standards, if it does work fine in other OS'es.
[10:31] <zorael> alvin: Only if the package is installed, no?
[10:31] <zorael> else I'd need to use apt-file and index all packages' contents
[10:38] <alvin> zorael: true. That's why I did it myself
[10:39] <alvin> tdn: Violating standards is pretty serious ;-) It shouldn't be encouraged.
[10:40] <tdn> alvin, I agree. But if the majority of DVD players and operating systems does support this, then Kubuntu should also. Then it is a defacto-standard.
[10:42] <alvin> tdn: It depends on how well the violation of the standard is documented.
[10:43] <tdn> alvin, of course.
[10:44] <alvin> It should still be punished by not using the software that violates the standard. Let's take the example of Outlook's TNEF attachments. This is causing grief for years and years... Apple mail can't read them. Apple shouldn't fight back by making unreadable DVD's.
[11:29] <trg> everyone useing tmpfs and ecryptfs for /home ????
[11:29] <trg> need help
[11:30] <trg> cant decrypt if i overlay my Hdd-Home with my Ram-Home
[11:33] <kaddi_> my pc is stuck to lowest brightness setting and I can't seem to change it. The settings can't be changed through the system settings, what else can I try?
[11:54] <trg> driver?
[11:55] <trg> if you have nvidia card and the propitary drivers try nvidia-settings
[11:55] <trg> ati should have an analoug
[11:57] <trg> or check  manpages with:  man xorg.conf
[11:57] <trg> maybe there are options you can use
[12:33] <trg> JEMAND MIT ECRYPTFS UND TMPFS FÜR /HOME???? JEMAND IRGEND JEMAND ? HEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPPPPPP
[12:33] <llutz> !de | trg nicht schreien und ->
[12:34] <trg> sorry worng tab
[12:42] <kaddi_> is there a way in kate to comment out several lines at once. eg place % in front of 15lines with one command?
[13:01] <ravimaddula> hi my package manager is not working
[13:02] <ravimaddula> during instalation of skypee got error displaying unkown error
[13:06] <NekawA> what error i installed skype it worked fine first installed the .deb then did apt-get install -f and it fixed the few dependencies
[13:37] <user_> hi
[13:37] <user_> any one?
[13:47] <homy> Hi! Is there a good usenet client? I looked at KNode (which is integrated with Kontact I think, but it is. on the one hand, very complicated and on the other seems to lack simple features like deleteing articles (that are spam and I don't want to see all the time). Thanks.
[13:47] <llutz> slrn
[13:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:50] <homy> llutz: uhm, it seems slrn is cli?
[13:50] <llutz> sure
[13:50] <homy> I'd prefer something graphical that integrates with kde.
[13:51] <llutz> homy: usenet is text, so why should one need gui/mounse?
[13:51] <llutz> mouse
[13:51] <homy> Well, I also use a graphical email client although emals are only text too.
[13:52] <llutz> homy: try mutt :) sry i don't know any reasonable kde-usenet-client
[14:36] <kaddi_> is there a way in kate to comment out several lines at once. eg place % in front of 15lines with one command?
[14:43] <bryan> How do I start networkmanager?
[14:44] <kaddi_> bryan: have a look at start->programs->internet you should see an entry for knetworkmanager
[14:45] <bryan> Is there a terminal command?
[14:45] <bryan> kaddi_: is there a terminal command?
[14:46] <kaddi_> bryan: yes, but I don't know it, as I use wicd. Maybe networkmanager-kde or knetworkmanager, I don't know
[14:47] <bryan> kaddi_: i dont see that option. :(
[14:50] <bryan> does any know how to get network manger running?
[14:54] <bryan> kaddi_: just restarted and now it works. i was afraid since last restart was really rough.
[15:55] <cumulus007> Hi, are there already KDE 4.4 packages in the kubuntu-member-kde4 ppa?
[16:00] <chisel_> my screen is bouncing slightly in firefox. any suggestions?
[16:01] <chisel_> the window frame is stationary, but the contents are bouncing. also, firefox will lock up more and more lately
[16:02] <chisel_> all these ppl here and nobody has any suggestions?
[16:10] <lakis1982> hi .. i have installed kubuntu and i installed vlc on it...  when i insert a dvd movie , the device notifier pops up and it says i have 3 options : 1.open dvd with dragon player , 2. burn dvd with k3b , 3. open in dolphin .... how can i add an exstra option so that the dvd movie by default open with vlc player ??    please help
[16:17] <lakis1982> hi .. i have installed kubuntu and i installed vlc on it...  when i insert a dvd movie , the device notifier pops up and it says i have 3 options : 1.open dvd with dragon player , 2. burn dvd with k3b , 3. open in dolphin .... how can i add an exstra option so that the dvd movie by default open with vlc player ??    please help
[16:17] <hannes_eee> how to get 0846:4240 netgear usb wlan dongle to work. in 8.04 it worked with ndiswrapper. but now i removed ndiswrapper because it won't work and also p54usb doesn't allow me to connect
[16:39] <rosco_y> When I try to run some games, I get "Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual"  Does anyone know what I should do?
[16:41] <rosco_y> I also note that when I try to run "glxgears" I get "Error: couldn't get an RGB Double-buffered visual"
[16:42] <rosco_y> glxgears used to work for me
[16:43] <rosco_y> how do you look at your list of unsupported drivers in jaunty?
[16:48] <Huulivoide> How can i get the cups configuration page to use in jaunty, i cannot acces it from localhot:631
[17:16] <mahmudi> 2
[18:01] <Fieldy> !firefox3
[18:01] <Fieldy> !ff3
[18:01] <Fieldy> what'd you tell me about it then...
[18:03] <kaddi_> !ff
[18:03] <kaddi_> maybe?
[18:04] <Fieldy> danke
[18:04] <Fieldy> !firefox-3.5
[18:12] <harjot> how would i loaunch an app on another computer using ssh?
[18:16] <polis> hi
[18:16] <polis> for kubuntu italian chan?
[18:20] <avihayb> h
[18:24] <Dragnslcr> !it | polis
[18:33] <Brian___> i dunno what i did but knetwork manager doesnt start when i login anymore where do i goto fix this
[19:13] <alvaro__> hola
[19:13] <alvaro__> alguien habla espaòol
[19:14] <genii> !es | alvaro__
[19:16] <zizzone80> ciao a tutti
[19:17] <genii> !it | zizzone80
[19:17] <zizzone80> devo rendere eseguibile un comando cosa devo fare?
[20:09] <Morydd> Any suggestions for getting an external HDD recognized? lsusb shows an entry for it, and the device notifier sees it, but attempts to mount it as /media/flash
[20:09] <Morydd> 'df' does not show it at all.
[20:09] <james_lan> Hello, I was wondering if anyone knew what package provided passkey-agent for pairing bluetooth, as I'm trying to pair an audio device and the kde bluetooth applet will not allow connection to audio devices.
[20:10] <james_lan> morydd, click on it in the device notifier, that will mount it and launch dolphin in it's directory.
[20:11] <Morydd> james_lan: it doesn't. it opens the /media/flash directory
[20:11] <james_lan> do: dmesg | grep sd and look for it.
[20:16] <Morydd> james_lan: VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sdb1
[20:17] <Morydd> So, I probably need to install ntfs tools.
[20:19] <james_lan> Morydd: what filesystem is it?
[20:19] <james_lan> New, or?
[20:20] <Morydd> New. 1TB purchased today.
[20:20] <rosco_y> Is anyone here using the open source ATI drivers with the Radeon HD 3300 Graphics subsystem?
[20:21] <Morydd> fdisk shows HPFS/NTFS
[20:21] <rosco_y> lol Known_problems--love your nick
[20:23] <james_lan> It's probably prefomatted ntfs then, you can either fdisk/mkfs it to something else or install ntfs.
[20:30] <james_lan> Does anyone know what package in kubuntu is supposed to work with pairing audio devices? (command line, or kde)
[20:35] <jonah1980> hey can anyone please help, an update has killed my computer, i just get a black screen, how do i downgrade my kernel to 2.6.28-15.49?
[20:38] <Fri13> jonah1980: did you remove the earlier OS?
[20:39] <jonah1980> Fri13: i just did an updates from backport repo one day and then it wouldn't boot, but i can't boot from a different kernel in grub as i need 2.6.28-15 for the intel chip in my machine to work... but synaptic updated from -15.49 to -15.51 and that kernel won't work, so how do i apt-get the other back??
[20:43] <Fri13> jonah1980: first you need to find out is there an older OS release available with apt-cache search 2.6.28-15 (or what release you want). And then there is a command to downgrade package.
[20:43] <Fri13> jonah1980: but the older OS release is easy to install because it should not conflict with the newer release at all.
[20:44] <Fri13> jonah1980: and you should always keep older release of the OS stored on GRUB as wel.
[20:44] <jonah1980> Fri13: so how do i do that search then?
[20:45] <jonah1980> Fri13: i have older kernels in grub, but they're 2.6.28-14 as 15 got updated. as the package is 15-generic, not the .version number on end...
[20:46] <Fri13> jonah1980: on commandline, become to the root with "su" command or do it with sudo, as "sudo apt-cache search 2.6.28"
[20:46] <Fri13> jonah1980: and unless the kubuntu repositories does not keep older. You can always google it and install manually.
[20:48] <jonah1980> Fri13: but that just gives me the generic, there's not mention fo the .49 or .51 etc on end. just 2.6.28-15-generic, i need 2.6.28-15.49
[20:50] <guest53783> how do i grep with a - in the beginning?
[20:50] <guest53783> i tried grep "-", egrep "-", egrep '-', grep '\-', egrep '\-', none of them worked
[20:57] <Fri13> guest53783: have you checked you do not have anykind alias from the grep itself, with just "alias" command?
[20:58] <guest53783> Fri13: pici in the other room figured it out. i need to use grep -- \-xxx $file
[20:58] <Fri13> jonah1980: I do not know then how to get older OS release.  It works me stright away as grep -.
[20:58] <guest53783> :) thanks anyway
[21:00] <Morydd> Okay, reformatted my drive to ext3. kubuntu still is not mounting it correctly. It shows up in dmesg, but nothing for /dev/sdb1 in either mtab or df
[21:01] <Byron> Hello everyone
[21:01] <Byron> I installed a new HDD with XP on it for my x-plane setup. How can I upgrade/update GRUB for this change?
[21:02] <Fri13> Morydd: you formatted it as Ext3 and what is it's entry on /etc/fstab file?
[21:03] <Fri13> Byron: you can edit manually the /boot/grub/menu.lts file. Add new entry for new drive and check the partition numbers correctly.
[21:03] <Byron> Fri13: How do I check the partition numbers and device info for the menu.lst file?
[21:05] <Byron> I also need to find out how to stop Kubuntu from freezing every time. Happens all the time since the new video card
[21:05] <Fri13> Byron: you can use gparted application to find it's name.
[21:05] <Fri13> number, sorry
[21:05] <Byron> Fri13: OK. I'll do that right now
[21:06] <Fri13> Byron: the GRUB use stupid way to think that all numbers start from 0. So first HD and first partition is (0,0)
[21:06] <Morydd> Fri13: Ah, I suspect that's the problem. The entry in fstab is for vfat (my thumb drive)
[21:06] <Fri13> Byron: first HD, second partition is (0,1)
[21:06] <sena> Byron: try also fdisk -l
[21:06] <Fri13> Byron: and if you have it now as second drive, it is (1,0) and so on.
[21:06] <sena> Byron: it gives you very usefull info for the partitions
[21:09] <Morydd> Should I just dump that line and let kubuntu handle it automatically? as it seems to do when the thumbdrive shows up as /dev/hdc1
[21:10] <Byron> Fri13: Thanks.
[21:10] <Byron> sena: Thank you. I will try that as well
[21:11] <Byron> What is the 'map' listing?
[21:11] <Byron> There are 2 of them
[21:13] <Byron> sdb1 would be hd0,0?
[21:13] <sena> Byron: you need to edit only menu.lst to setup which os from which partition should boot
[21:14] <sena> Byron: in the menu.lst there are examples that are commented with #, check them out
[21:14] <Byron> got it
[21:14] <Byron> Just rebooted and I'm good to go :)
[21:14] <Byron> thank you both for your help.
[21:14] <sena> Byron: you are welcome, have fun : ))
[21:15] <Byron> sena: I will be having so much fun with X-Plane :) It's only a matter of time before I get my private pilot's license
[21:19] <Byron> I also just bought the flight controls, so I'm psyched
[21:20] <Morydd> Is there a way to make auto-mounted drives writable by users, rather than root, automatically?
[21:24] <Fri13> Morydd: yes, I just dont know how to do it on Ubuntu.
[21:34] <javier_> Hello, everizing in spanish please
[21:36] <avihayb> !sp
[21:36] <avihayb> !es
[21:40] <MTGap_> I can't seem to find kdevelop in the repositories, how do I install kdevelop4?
[21:41] <Dragnslcr> I don't know if there's a repository for KDevelop4 yet
[21:43] <MTGap_> so do I have to build it from source
[21:45] <Dragnslcr> Oh, wait, maybe that is it
[21:45] <Dragnslcr> !info kdevelop-kde4
[21:45] <Dragnslcr> That might be the beta
[21:45] <MTGap_> yeah that seems to be it, I wonder why I couldn't find it with apt-cache search
[21:46] <MTGap_> hmm it can't find that package
[21:47] <MTGap_> ahh found the problem. my universe repository somehow got disabled
[21:49] <MTGap_> Thanks got it working
[21:50] <champignon> Yo gangster
[22:49] <IvinBare> Boa noite
[22:50] <skreech> Hi
[22:50] <skreech> Looking for some help with a series of annoying apt-get errors
[22:50] <skreech> Nothing critical
[22:50] <skreech> I just want to get rid of them :)
[22:53] <skreech> http://pastebin.com/f31d8074
[22:54] <noen> skreech: try rename /usr/share/pixmaps/kpresenter.xpm to something else?
[22:54] <skreech> Errm
[22:54] <skreech> ok that's a kludge but fnie
[22:55] <noen> the package managers will probably fix this dependency issue, but it looks like two packages tries to install the same file
[22:55] <skreech> It is
[22:55] <skreech> bah it's a databse driven app
[22:56] <skreech> it doesn't care if the file is there or not as long as it's in the database that the file should be there it will stop
[22:58] <noen> send a mail to the package manager (or maillist) ?
[22:58] <noen> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/+login
[23:08] <Stunts> anyone here lnow how to fix grub to load under a certain refresh frequency? cause my laptop refuses to load on what ever frequency its using, as well as any monitor i have hooked up
[23:08] <NekawA> i believe that's in xorg.conf not grub but I could be wrong
[23:08] <NekawA> i definitely remember defining refresh rates in xorg.conf
[23:09] <Stunts> i mean in the grub kernal line
[23:09] <Stunts> if it helps im using an old laptop with a chips and tech 69000 gfx card
[23:09] <Stunts> thats so old that intel owns them now
[23:10] <skreech> noen: I did already I just want to know how to override this
[23:10] <skreech> Stunts: Yeah grub has cheat codes
[23:11] <Stunts> you happen to know which one i need?
[23:11] <skreech> Not off the top of myhead butit's probably a VGA=option
[23:11] <Stunts> or where the xorg.conf is, cause im using install along side windows till i get this workin grite
[23:11] <Stunts> all the vga options didnt include refresh rates
[23:12] <Stunts> er the ones it showed me i mean
[23:18] <DIavolOro> italiani?
[23:19] <skreech> !it
[23:19] <skreech> Stunts: Pop into #grub and ask
[23:20] <Stunts> ok
[23:23] <Stunts> well, every1 is silent in there
[23:24] <avihayb> anyone experiencing issues with samba? my smb and smbfs mounts are soo unstable...
[23:29] <BluesKaj> avihayb, I just rediscovered smb4k ..it's very stable so far , and doesn't crash
[23:30] <BluesKaj> bbiab , gonna switch to tha laptop , tired need to rest
[23:32] <avihayb> humm, I'll have alook, thanks
[23:32] <avihayb> !info smb4k
[23:34] <avihayb> well, now I have another problem, I don't have a panel on kde4 (no plasma)
[23:35] <skreech> avihayb: do you have krunner?
[23:35] <yoos> avihayb: if plasma-desktop is running, try right-clicking on the desktop and "Add Panel"
[23:36] <avihayb> yoos: I think I killed it after I saw no panle
[23:36] <yoos> heh then try running plasma-desktop
[23:37] <avihayb> skreech: if by krunner, you mean if I get a run dialog by pressing alt+f2, then yes, howerver it's useless
[23:37] <skreech> as in you saw no panel and you killed it or you right clicke and had no option to add a panel and killed it?
[23:37] <skreech> avihayb: type plasma-desktop
[23:38] <avihayb> I saw the plasma service, but no panel. I wondered what would happen if I sent it the hangup signal....
[23:39] <avihayb> skreech: I can't type in it, I have a bug in qt apps tha makes them start ignoring the keyboard compleatly. I'll no what i'll do. I'll write it in another program and copy paste it, how very annoying...
[23:40] <skreech> What? What bug is that?
[23:40] <skreech> What version of Qt are you running?
[23:40] <avihayb> I didn't find any info on that bug
[23:40] <Warlock_> anyone know how to make the temp folder larger ??? Problem being is this was once a dual boot system.I took the other partition out but now it is not large enough for me to do 5 gig tasks..It only has 3 gigs of space
[23:41] <avihayb> libqtcore4 is of version 4.5.0-oubuntu4.1
[23:43] <avihayb> BluesKaj: thanks for the advice, I wanted to mount, not browse, but I now noticed that samba4 is available, I'll try it out soon. thanks
[23:44] <yoos> avihayb: that keyboard ignoring bug happens to me too sometimes, though I can't reproduce it reliably :|
[23:44] <yoos> but it's never happened with krunner...
[23:45] <BluesKaj> avihayb, smb4k will mount whatever network shares are available
[23:45] <avihayb> yoos: me three. any more information on it? I only "met" another person on irc with the same problem, and it occored with a laptop
[23:46] <avihayb> well, I found out what the problem is, I ran out of disk space a few days ago, and the config files for plasma are empty. someone should really fix that no disk space causeing settings to be erased
[23:47] <yoos> avihayb: yep, I'm on a macbook. I think it happens mostly with dialog boxes, like when you save a text file with kate.
[23:48] <yoos> if I recall correctly, restarting the application fixed it
[23:48] <yoos> or a reboot
[23:48] <yoos> hasn't happened since KDE 4.3.0 though
[23:48] <Warlock_> anyone know how to make the temp folder larger ??? Problem being is this was once a dual boot system.I took the other partition out but now it is not large enough for me to do 5 gig tasks..It only has 3 gigs of space...The front used to have a ntfs partation but now it´s formatted for linux
[23:49] <yoos> Warlock: folders have no size limit; do you mean the partition size?
[23:49] <avihayb> Warlock_: can you better explain what you did with the partitions?
[23:50] <yoos> if so, you must boot from another OS and change the size of your linux partition
[23:50] <Warlock_> Nope when for example I try to burn a dvd to my system it give me an error message that the temp folder does not have enough space..It has 3.78 gig when I need 5.9...I have a 20 gig hard drive onboard with a terrabyte drive outboard
[23:51] <Warlock_> Iḿ using kb3
[23:51] <yoos> Warlock: what's the output of "df -h ?
[23:51] <yoos> whoops
[23:51] <yoos> "df -h"
[23:51] <Warlock_> Yes it is
[23:52] <Warlock_> output is usb
[23:52] <avihayb> I'm guessing that /tmp is mounted with the root folder and the rest of the OS on a small partition, and that's where the problem is
[23:52] <Warlock_> Your correct avihayb
[23:53] <Warlock_> How do I fit that or use another space as the temp folder
[23:53] <Warlock_> fit=fix
[23:53] <yoos> you have to resize
[23:53] <Warlock_> genii already did that for me
[23:53] <yoos> hmm
[23:53] <Warlock_> I still get the same message
[23:53] <Warlock_> that was how we took windows off this machine
[23:54] <Warlock_> he resized the partition after he removed windoes
[23:54] <Warlock_> then formatted it
[23:54] <yoos> do you have more than 5.9 GB free space?
[23:54] <Warlock_> OMG> yea like 10 gig of free space
[23:54] <Bloodstar> Okay, that's ... pretty odd
[23:54] <Bloodstar> I can connect to unsecured wireless networks just fine, yet WEP encrypted networks I can't
[23:55] <Bloodstar> (using the Plasma widget)
[23:55] <Warlock_> I also have 500 gig of free space on the terrabyte drive yet it will not let me do anything cause of the free space issue
[23:55] <avihayb> !info wpasupplicant
[23:56] <Warlock_> Bloodstar I had the same issue....It was fixed by loading the driver in windows dual boot then linux found it and used that and still does
[23:56] <Warlock_> Mine was on the hotlist as a problem one and I got around it that way
[23:56] <Bloodstar> hmm
[23:56] <Warlock_> Even tho I´ve removed windows it still uses that driver without an issue
[23:56] <Warlock_> Genii hooked mine up but that is what he did
[23:56] <Bloodstar> I don't think it's an Aspire One-specific problem then
[23:57] <Warlock_> Any suggests with regards to my issue yoos ??
[23:57] <Bloodstar> It's not so much the wireless is broken altogether, though
[23:57] <Bloodstar> since I could connect to my college's unsecured
[23:57] <yoos> you said the output for "df -h" is usb, which doesn't make much sense to me :|
[23:57] <yoos> I get something like this:
[23:57] <yoos> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[23:57] <yoos> /dev/sda1              40G  7.3G   31G  20% /
[23:58] <FloodBotK1> yoos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:58] <yoos> sorry, been a while since last time on IRC :)
[23:58] <Warlock_> np...
[23:58] <Bloodstar> of course it could also be the fact that I'm running it off a USB disk, but I'm really hesitant to repartition my netbook's HD
[23:58] <Warlock_> Let me look at df-h again and I´ll show you
[23:59] <Lorthirk> hello. i have a fresh install of kubuntu on my desktop. the pc is connected to a router via an ethernet cable, but the connection doesn't show up in Network Manager... what can I do to set static ip on my interface??
[23:59] <Warlock_> command not found yoos