[00:48] <jose> pleia2: btw I'm just waiting on nhandler's quote - the rest didn't reply :/
[00:48] <pleia2> jose: ok, thanks
[00:48] <jose> np
[02:43] <guiverc_t> uwn: don't see any more interesting in planet; have written blah for those i saw. in doc
[02:44] <pleia2> thanks, I need to post my blog post and maybe nudge nhaines again about ubucon summit
[02:44] <tsimonq2> Oh grrrr I forgot :/
[02:45] <guiverc_t> :)
[03:00]  * pleia2 publishes leaving uwn post :'(
[03:01] <pleia2> had hoped to do this 10 weeks ago, but ugh
[03:03] <guiverc_t> pleia2, shame we 'push' our undone tasks; we need to be more like routers that 'drop' ... it'd reduce our self-stress
[03:04] <pleia2> guiverc_t: hah, indeed :)
[03:05] <tsimonq2> pleia2: :(
[03:05] <tsimonq2> pleia2: We'll miss you :(
[03:05] <pleia2> you know where to find me :)
[03:05] <pleia2> still, it's breaking my heart
[03:07]  * guiverc_t has sad face
[03:44] <pleia2> emailed the trio of winners from our quiz
[03:51] <tsimonq2> pleia2: You deleted a dot...
[03:51] <tsimonq2> pleia2: :P
[03:52] <pleia2> ?
[03:52] <tsimonq2> pleia2: End of summary email, it says, "Thanks again for your time! And no worries if you can't help this week, there is always next week.. :)"
[03:53] <pleia2> ah, hah
[03:53] <tsimonq2> There was another period at the end of that, I fixed that in the doc because it was annoying me. :P
[03:53] <tsimonq2> And SOMEONE decided to change it back ;)
[03:54] <pleia2> ok :)
[03:54] <pleia2> anyway, that's all sent to people
[03:54] <pleia2> off to dinner
[03:54] <tsimonq2> Ok o/
[03:56] <tsimonq2> pleia2: I added it back, thankyouverymuch :P ;)
[13:51]  * PaulW2U counts just 4 summaries to do for this milestone issue
[13:53]  * PaulW2U thinks best to hold my own blog post(s) until after #500 is issued
[14:09] <guiverc_t> thanks PaulW2U [for comments on doc seen via phone]  .. i'm unlikely to do anymore this issue
[14:11] <PaulW2U> guiverc_t: no problem, I'll make sure that summaries are completed in the absence of anyone else showing up
[14:24] <guiverc_t> not sure if in doc; planet has pleia2's moving.on & an insights:public ssh keys in lxd... ; unsure if in doc, nor willing to power up desktop to check it
[14:26] <PaulW2U> guiverc_t: I've written pleia2's summary but not sure if lxd article should be included as it's a "HowTo"
[14:27] <PaulW2U> sometime we include HowTo's and sometime we don't  </confused>
[14:31] <guiverc_t> :) @ PaulW2U


[02:56] <sadmac> Keybuk: ping
[09:43] <Keybuk> sadmac: hey. how goes it?
[12:17] <asdaf> hi all
[12:18] <asdaf> I have a question, does upstart 0.3.9 kill all subprocesses spawned by a process when the job is stopped?
[12:19] <asdaf> from the description of bug #121733, it seems this only applies to scripts executed using the script/end script stanza
[13:54] <Keybuk> asdaf: it would kill all
[13:56] <Keybuk> asdaf: exec is morally equivalent to
[13:56] <Keybuk>   script
[13:56] <Keybuk>     exec ...
[13:56] <Keybuk>   end script
[13:56] <Keybuk> except that Upstart may optimise out the use of a shell if no interesting characters are used
[13:57] <Keybuk> exec /bin/getty $TTY
[13:57] <Keybuk> for example is absolutely identical to
[13:57] <Keybuk> script
[13:57] <Keybuk>   exec /bin/getty $TTY
[13:57] <Keybuk> end script
[13:57] <Keybuk> since it needs the shell to do the expansion of $TTY
[15:01] <keesj> did somebody experiment with changing the rootfs while upstart is runing , is there a way to do this ?
[15:02] <keesj> can upstart "exec" itself away?
[15:14] <Keybuk> sure
[19:05] <keesj> What a long aswer :p
[23:26] <sadmac> Keybuk: have you had any thoughts on logd and a way of making it work?


[01:04] <xnox> ochosi: sure.
[01:05] <xnox> ochosi: please subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to the bug reports (if it's debdiffs) or request reviews on merge-proposals from ~ubuntu-branches
[01:05] <xnox> ochosi: if that stalls, feel free to ping me on irc or via email.
[01:06] <xnox> ochosi: emails best sent to ubuntu-motu mailing list, which i monitor.
[03:19] <Unit193> Hrm, conflict between Ubuntu and Debian source packages 'tomahawk' https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tomahawk - http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/tomahawk.html would mean we don't get the Debian one until the Ubuntu one isn't conflicting.
[22:02] <jtaylor> hm why can't my trusty find python-pil, it should be in the pillow source
[22:06] <jtaylor> arg I'm a moron, was using saucy


[00:01] <tux444> ok
[00:01] <tux444> don't know
[00:01] <tux444> well i go to bed
[00:01] <tux444> happy to meet you
[00:02] <tux444> bye
[00:03] <_Techie_> gnight tux444
[00:03] <tux444> tx
[01:27] <LinuX2half> Hi, I want to know how long does it take for it to be detecting file systems?
[01:27] <LinuX2half> How long should this process be?
[01:28] <LinuX2half> I'm installing the system and within 15 minutes it stops at detecting file systems.
[01:28] <LinuX2half> I didn't have space for the swap partition.
[06:30] <xubuntu038> Test
[08:17] <lighta> hey doesn't anyone know ahk ?
[08:25] <well_laid_lawn> I've never met him/her...
[08:37] <lighta> ah thx, it's a program for macro in facts
[09:16] <anas> Hello
[09:17] <lighta> hi
[09:17] <anas> I need help.... I am new to Xubuntu.
[09:18] <anas> Could I present my question...
[09:18] <anas> I had installed Ubuntu 2 weeks ago on my desktop that already had windows
[09:19] <anas> then, yesterday it prompted me to update some software and I accepted...
[09:19] <Sysi> !hi
[09:19] <anas> then, it prompted me to update grub and I accepted...
[09:20] <anas> but, it seems to have damaged my MBR
[09:20] <anas> (Windows was initially installed on Drive C... Later Ubuntu was installed on drive H)
[09:20] <Sysi> wubi?
[09:21] <anas> today, I managed to fix my MBR using Windows CD
[09:21] <Sysi> ubuntu doesn't hadle partitons as letters
[09:21] <anas> what is wubi?
[09:21] <Sysi> !wubi
[09:21] <Sysi> that can cause weird problems
[09:21] <Sysi> but well, go on
[09:22] <anas> Well, now I get the GNU Grub screen and I don't know how to make it boot Ubuntu
[09:22] <anas> I see the grub command prompt... but, I don't know what to do... I need help
[09:24] <Sysi> ah, that failing windows bootloader-fix
[09:24] <Sysi> !grub2
[09:25] <anas> Thanks much... Let me check out those links
[09:25] <Sysi> see "reinstalling grub2" or something like that behind the url abowe
[10:08] <dude121> not much going on in here
[10:08] <dude121> testingg
[10:09] <psycho_oreos> !hi| dude121
[10:10] <dude121> thanks
[10:12] <tux444> hi
[10:12] <dude121> hi
[10:12] <dude121> just testing out irssi with spellcheck plugin
[10:12] <tux444> you talk to me ?
[10:13] <tux444>  talking
[10:13] <dude121> you or anyone
[10:13] <tux444> what is the spellcheck plugin ?
[10:13] <Sysi> dude121: i recommend #ubuntu-offtopic or own test channel
[10:14] <Sysi> tux444: some irssi plugin
[10:16] <dude121> can you guys see this spell correction lines?
[10:16] <Sysi> of course noy
[10:16] <tux444> and what he does ?
[10:16] <dude121> ok good
[10:18] <dude121> seems to be working well
[10:18] <dude121> i think its time for me to sleep
[10:18] <Sysi> irssi is one irc-client and it supports plugins
[10:19] <psycho_oreos> dere u go
[10:19] <tux444> ok
[10:20] <dude121> here is how i installed the spell check plugin http://blog.schmichael.com/2008/11/05/spell-checking-in-irssi/
[10:26] <dude121> time to go
[10:26] <dude121> night
[10:31] <tux444> just a question, i want to try to install xubuntu via telnet or ssh, if it's possible ?
[10:32] <TheSheep> tux444: how would that work?
[10:32] <TheSheep> tux444: I mean, how do you log in to that server if it doesn't have a system yet?
[10:33] <well_laid_lawn> there's pxe if the comp supports it
[10:35] <tux444> i've a notebook who have the screen dead
[10:35] <tux444> and
[10:37] <tux444> i'm trying to connect a remote pc to this notebook during the install
[10:38] <tux444> @well : i don't have pxe server
[10:38] <well_laid_lawn> !install
[10:38] <tux444> i've just a little LAN in my home
[10:38] <tux444> ok thanks
[10:45] <TheSheep> tux444: well, doesn't the notebook have a vga out?
[10:47] <tux444> yes, i have already tried to connect an other screen, but not work
[10:48] <tux444> work during the init
[10:48] <tux444> but stop after
[10:52] <tux444> i said "screen is dead" to simplify the problem but in fact, after on of two minute after start the computer, screen show things like rainbow
[10:52] <tux444> and pc become unusable :(
[10:52] <tux444> you understand ?
[11:02] <GeoZoo> hey ho everybody
[11:02] <tux444> hi
[11:02] <GeoZoo> does someone have time to help me with a wlan problem
[11:03] <GeoZoo> i googled and tried a lot of things but still my wlan card says it isn't ready
[11:28] <GeoZoo> does anyone have experience with a iwl4965?
[11:28] <TheSheep> check the forums
[11:31] <psycho_oreos> GeoZoo, it might be an issue with something like network manager that has a hold of the device.. not that I own that card but I've seen that message numerous times only to find out it was something like a network manager tool or wicd, etc to tamper with it
[11:36] <GeoZoo> psycho_oreos, in the threads i saw everybody suggested to deinstall network manager and install wicd
[11:37] <psycho_oreos> GeoZoo, its a matter of preferences, either way both of them can cause wireless link to not be ready because its being managed by some daemon
[11:37] <GeoZoo> this guis confuses me anyway, prior xubuntu i used gentoo where i usually work in the terminal, but i cant find any threads dealing with tracking the problem in the terminal
[11:38] <psycho_oreos> so its not either of those network managing tools?
[11:38] <GeoZoo> i dont think so
[11:38] <GeoZoo> i have the problem since 2 years :)
[11:38] <psycho_oreos> well I'd check to see if either of them are running in the background
[11:39] <psycho_oreos> ps aux| grep networkmanager| grep wicd
[11:39] <GeoZoo> once with a gentoo setup everything worked fine, but after an update i never get it running again
[11:39] <psycho_oreos> something like that
[11:40] <psycho_oreos> well gentoo can vary highly on how you set it up in the first place, it might be that the driver wasn't working well at the time you setup gentoo, maybe it was in wip
[11:41] <GeoZoo> yeah maybe, i updated the kernel without backuping the old one (stupid me)
[11:41] <GeoZoo> ok i try to do the ps thing
[11:43] <psycho_oreos> well you can get something like compat-wireless which might be in portage tree. now under xubuntu/ubuntu it would be linux-backports iirc
[11:46] <GeoZoo> psycho_oreos, sorry for that question, but i think i didnt understand the backports, are backports driver from new ubuntu versions for older installations, or old drivers for new versions?
[11:46] <GeoZoo> i didnt got it when i read the article
[11:47] <psycho_oreos> new drivers for old/current versions of installed ubuntu (ultimately it depends on which release you have got)
[11:47] <GeoZoo> oh, but im using 10.10
[11:47] <GeoZoo> which is maybe the explanation that i only can find backports for that version?
[11:48] <psycho_oreos> nothing wrong with getting it if the current driver you are using is either playing up or you want more functionality, etc
[11:48] <psycho_oreos> well no the backports afaiu is new builds of drivers made available tailored to your version
[11:49] <psycho_oreos> so long as you get the right meta-package that is
[11:53] <GeoZoo> hmm, ok so it make sence to try the backports if somethings seems wrong with the driver
[11:53] <GeoZoo> ps aux | grep wicd
[11:53] <psycho_oreos> or you want to be part of the bleeding edge sort of to say
[11:53] <GeoZoo> says that the wicd deamon, client and monitor.py is running
[11:53] <psycho_oreos> might be an easier way to see if its actually there without having to read the entire line by using something like `ps aux| grep wicd| wc -l'
[11:54] <psycho_oreos> so kill those
[11:54] <GeoZoo> :D ah ok, sorry thought such releases are already for noobs :D
[11:55] <psycho_oreos> the distro doesn't define who you are.. sure, people see ubuntu are for newbs but anyone can be a newb regardless of which distro they so choose
[11:55] <GeoZoo> this command says: 4 processes or threads open
[11:56] <psycho_oreos> well yeah, so it goes to show you have wicd running which should be killed as they could interfere with what the user ultimately wanted
[11:56] <GeoZoo> oh, no no i think you got me wrong, i meant that using always the newest backports is no good idea for noobs, since you said "bleeding edge sort"
[11:57] <GeoZoo> i was a absolutly noob when i setup my first gentoo linux :D
[11:57] <psycho_oreos> ahh that, well not necessarily, ultimately it depends on how willing the new user wants
[11:57] <psycho_oreos> s/wants/is/
[11:58] <GeoZoo> hmm, from this point of view... i agree :)
[12:00] <share> helolo
[12:00] <share> hello
[12:00] <GeoZoo> hi share :)
[12:01] <share> right now im using gnome in xubuntu
[12:01] <share> but the computer is really slow
[12:01] <share> how can i use other desktop interface
[12:01] <Sysi> install and select on login
[12:01] <share> can i use lxde
[12:01] <share> ?
[12:01] <GeoZoo> psycho_oreos, i killed all wicd processes and restarted the network by /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:02] <Sysi> share: why not
[12:02] <psycho_oreos> share, you need to install lubuntu-desktop
[12:02] <GeoZoo> but dmesg says again link not ready
[12:02] <share> hmm
[12:02] <Sysi> not necessarily entire lubuntu-desktop
[12:02] <psycho_oreos> GeoZoo, might need to reload the driver me thinks
[12:03] <share> ei
[12:03] <share> xubuntu is not upgrading the kernel
[12:04] <share> The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-image-generic
[12:04] <GeoZoo> just to be sure, you mean with modprobe -r <driver>, modprobe <driver>, right?
[12:04] <psycho_oreos> GeoZoo, yup
[12:04] <psycho_oreos> modprobe -r iwl4965 && modprobe iwl4965
[12:06] <GeoZoo> mhm, lspci -k says its iwlagn, i think it makes no difference
[12:06] <psycho_oreos> well iwlagn would be the target then :)
[12:06] <share> oh sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:07] <psycho_oreos> like I said I don't know I don't have that chipset so I'm just `stabbing in the dark'
[12:07] <GeoZoo> i reload the driver, restarted the network and dmesg says: link is not ready :(
[12:07] <psycho_oreos> make sure that wicd isn't auto spawned again by init
[12:08] <psycho_oreos> might need to do something like `/etc/init.d/wicd stop'
[12:08] <GeoZoo> i saw that the n function is disabled, i look after the thread where they enabled it, maybe it helps
[12:08] <psycho_oreos> doubt it
[12:08] <GeoZoo> oh, i tried the ps command it says: 0 so i assume it doesn't spawned
[12:09] <psycho_oreos> hmm
[12:09] <psycho_oreos> check the last few lines of dmesg, it might be rfkill getting in the way (which I somewhat doubt but then again it might be remotely possible)
[12:11] <GeoZoo> uh, i think we are on the right track, i find that on the last lines of dmesg (please be patient, i have to type the think into irc)
[12:12] <psycho_oreos> use something like pastebinit
[12:12] <knome> !pastebin
[12:12] <GeoZoo> ...apparmor="DENIED"...
[12:12] <GeoZoo> iwlagn ... PCI INT A  disabled
[12:13] <GeoZoo> this will not work since i use mirc on my fathers pc and have my laptop next to it
[12:13] <share> Why "menu editor" doesnt change the menus?
[12:13] <psycho_oreos> heh a spare network cable comes in handy :D
[12:13] <GeoZoo> i dont want that the wired connection make me think the network is working or interference with it
[12:14] <psycho_oreos> well its a time saver but its up to you if you wanted to just type out the lines :)
[12:14] <GeoZoo> which remind me that i should stop the tg3 driver ^^
[12:14] <GeoZoo> to be honest, i prefer to type the lines ;-)
[12:15] <psycho_oreos> hmm, the first line sounds like SELinux coming into play and the second line I'm not sure.. it might be ACPI playing up there
[12:15] <GeoZoo> 2 year ago i thought to solved the problem, 2 min. later after i closed the thread in the gentoo forum, i understood that my wired was working not my wireless
[12:15] <psycho_oreos> there might be useful lines before that unless if the previous line before that was to do with apparmour
[12:16] <psycho_oreos> lol there you go
[12:17] <knome> share, because the menu editor edits the gnome menus. right now, there is no way to edit the xfce menus via gui
[12:18] <GeoZoo> is it helpfull to remove my dmesg.log file, restart the wlan stuff and post the new dmesg?
[12:19] <psycho_oreos> not really
[12:19] <psycho_oreos> usually the dmesg output would have timestamps on the far left of the output, all you need to do is just run tail on it to read the latest lines
[12:21] <GeoZoo> ok i plugin my laptop and post the dmesg of the restart :)
[12:22] <psycho_oreos> you might want to use pastebin if its more than 2 lines
[12:24] <knome> GeoZoo_laptop, ...i want you to use pastebin if it's more than 2 lines
[12:24] <GeoZoo_laptop> knome, ok
[12:25] <knome> thanks :)
[12:25] <psycho_oreos> there you go, from horse's mouth
[12:27] <psycho_oreos> s/horse\`s/horses/
[12:27] <GeoZoo_laptop> http://pastebin.com/J4PpLrkD
[12:28] <psycho_oreos> hmm nothing about device being disabled, but then again that output is before you killed wicd I bet
[12:29] <GeoZoo_laptop> do refer to the INIT disabled?, nop after i killed wicd
[12:29] <psycho_oreos> hmm
[12:30] <psycho_oreos> lol I'm getting to the point of being stumped.. just restart wicd and use wicd to connect wirelessly
[12:31] <GeoZoo_laptop> :), life can be so easy
[12:31] <GeoZoo_laptop> but not in every case ;-)
[12:32] <psycho_oreos> well I'm multitasking, so its not easy for me to use all my brain resources to figure it out :) its definitely a hook somewhere
[12:32]  * psycho_oreos was thinking of using something like lsof but that isn't particularly useful
[12:33] <GeoZoo_laptop> hmm, i will breakfast with my grandpa, i try it later again.
[12:34] <psycho_oreos> and speaking of which, my dinner was way overdue whilst I was too busy getting my revenge back
[12:34] <GeoZoo_laptop> thanks for you help, at least i learned two new things (using two | in one command and first time using pastebin :D)
[12:34] <psycho_oreos> we all had to start from somewhere :)
[12:34] <GeoZoo_laptop> true
[12:36] <GeoZoo_laptop> thanks again and enjoy your meal (if i got it right)
[12:36] <psycho_oreos> thanks, you too
[12:44] <knome> meal sounds good, but one should fetch it first for grocery store and prepare it
[14:17] <mohadila> hello
[14:19] <knome> hey
[16:06] <ShootEmUp> ello there!
[16:41]  * woodzy is away: I'm busy
[16:47] <knome> woodzy, hey, please do not use public away messages
[17:02] <woodzy> sorry, was setting my chat up. :-\
[17:03] <woodzy> does anyone know how to disable the touch pad on a laptop when a usb or ps/2 mouse is plugged in?
[17:14] <TheSheep> woodzy: automatically? you'd probably need a hal script
[17:27] <woodzy> thesheep: i'm a newbie. sorry. how do i do that?
[17:27] <TheSheep> woodzy: no idea, that's adavanced
[17:27] <TheSheep> woodzy: but I just thought about something else
[17:28] <TheSheep> woodzy: if you go to thunar preferences
[17:28] <TheSheep> switch to advanced tab
[17:28] <TheSheep> click on 'configure'
[17:28] <woodzy> i surprised that option is not built into any other variant of Ubuntu other than Kubuntu?
[17:28] <TheSheep> then to 'input devices' tab
[17:28] <woodzy> ok i'm there.
[17:28] <TheSheep> you can set a command to be executed when you connect your mouse
[17:30] <TheSheep> you can also try installing gsynaptics
[17:31] <woodzy> oh, is that a driver for the synaptics touchpad?
[17:31] <TheSheep> no, a gui settings dialog
[17:31] <woodzy> i'll try that first. :)
[17:31] <woodzy> thank you.
[17:32] <TheSheep> there is also tpconfig
[17:32] <TheSheep> you could use that in connection with thunar...
[17:33] <woodzy> OK. thanks.
[17:33] <TheSheep> I think gsynaptics has been renamed to gpointing-device-settings
[17:34] <TheSheep> it has a 'disable when any other devices are connected' option
[17:34] <GeoZoo_laptop> psycho_oreos, are you still here?
[17:36] <woodzy> ok, thanks again, sheep.
[17:37] <GeoZoo_laptop> someone there who can help with my wireless?
[18:09] <ShootEmUp> hello everyone
[18:10] <charlie-tca> Hello
[18:10] <charlie-tca> You any good with wireless?
[18:10] <ShootEmUp> yeah
[18:10] <charlie-tca> GeoZoo: here's help...
[18:10] <ShootEmUp> GeoZoo, whats the problem
[18:12] <ShootEmUp> GeoZoo, you there?
[18:12] <charlie-tca> maybe just taking a poll?
[18:14] <ShootEmUp> hey lighta
[18:14] <lighta> hey ShootEmUp , how are u ?
[18:14] <ShootEmUp> doing fine, you?
[18:14] <lighta> I didn't try etx2read yet
[18:15] <ShootEmUp> it works good, but is read only
[18:15] <ShootEmUp> but is the only program I've found that can read ext4
[18:15] <lighta> ah =( well, a leat I can read
[18:16] <ShootEmUp> It's for the best, cause you don't wanna screw ubuntu up
[18:18] <lighta> true, but I wanted to edit some file eventually
[18:19] <ShootEmUp> there are other ones that can write, just not ext4, or large inode size
[18:19] <ShootEmUp> Is GeoZoo, or GeoZoo_laptop back yet?
[18:21] <lighta> can I add a swap partition for my xubuntu ? i've goot none at the moment
[18:21] <ShootEmUp> yup
[18:21] <TheSheep> lighta: you can even add a swap file
[18:22] <TheSheep> lighta: easier to set up and as fast
[18:22] <GeoZoo_laptop> ShootEmUp, yes he is :)
[18:22] <GeoZoo_laptop> sorry still looking around in the internet for a solution to my wlan problem
[18:22] <ShootEmUp> ok GeoZoo, what is your problem?
[18:22] <lighta> tought swap partition was better than swap file
[18:22] <ShootEmUp> lighta, try this http://www.fs-driver.org/
[18:23] <GeoZoo_laptop> my wlan card isnt connection to a router
[18:23] <ShootEmUp> swap file can not hibernate
[18:23] <ShootEmUp> but everything else is the same
[18:23] <GeoZoo_laptop> neither wep, wap, or none encryption
[18:23] <ShootEmUp> GeoZoo, what is the make and model of your wifi card?
[18:23] <GeoZoo_laptop> i can scann wlan and find essids, if this is what you mean?
[18:23] <lighta> ShootEmUp, you already gave me this link, is there something I should look for swap ? I took .exe already for windows
[18:24] <GeoZoo_laptop> intel 4965 agn, sorry what is a make?
[18:24] <ShootEmUp> you told me, googleing now...
[18:25] <ShootEmUp> ahh gotta do something, brb
[18:25] <GeoZoo_laptop> doh :)
[18:29] <woodzy> sheep, thanks it worked: gpointing-device-settings
[18:33] <ShootEmUp> GeoZoo, try this link http://www.intellinuxwireless.org/?n=Downloads look for your cards linux drivers
[18:35] <ShootEmUp> lighta, read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[18:36] <GeoZoo_laptop> ShootEmUp, the firmeware version which i get from dmesg is the same than on the webpage you gave me, should i try it anyway? maybe you have also a howto for installing the microcode by hand? thanks
[18:37] <GeoZoo_laptop> no wait, im getting lacy, i will google for a howto :)
[18:42] <ShootEmUp> GeoZoo, apparently your wifi card cannot connect to N networks with ubuntu
[18:43] <ShootEmUp> If your AP is only using N then you will not be able to connect
[18:44] <ShootEmUp> http://www.art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1491147
[18:44] <ShootEmUp> also you might wanna try this
[18:47] <GeoZoo_laptop> hmm, strange, xChat always runs in a ping timeout...
[18:49] <ShootEmUp> never had a problem here, seems to be a internet erorr not Xchats
[18:51] <GeoZoo_laptop> mirc on my win xp machine (thats the reason for GeoZoo ;-)) never disconected, but i guess it is a bad configuration of anything
[18:52] <ShootEmUp> guess so, anyway you try anything on your wifi card?
[18:53] <GeoZoo_laptop> yes, sure, just looked up what to do with the ucode :)
[19:01] <ShootEmUp> sorry I can't stick around, but I have to go
[19:01] <ShootEmUp> ttyl, everyone!
[20:05] <woodzy> sheep, you around?
[21:51] <chkdsk> How would I go about replacing Thunar with Nautilus as default file manager?


[00:39] <mathiaz> smoser: hi
[00:39] <mathiaz> smoser: is there already an AMI that has the fixed puppet cloud-init?
[14:18] <veenenen> I'm sure this has been covered already, but has there been any progress on figuring out what's going on with the ubuntu ebs images and amazon's new micro instances?
[14:59] <smoser> veenenen, not been covered. i hadn't seen the announcemnt.
[14:59] <smoser> but i think they should "just work"
[15:00] <veenenen> yeah, it may be amazon's fault
[15:01] <veenenen> pretty much, they launch fine, but when you restart them you can't log back in
[15:02] <veenenen> there's no errors in the system log, so I'm not sure what's going on
[15:02] <veenenen> but the service just launched today, so I figure a week or so to work out the bugs is ok
[15:03] <smoser> veenenen, i'll launch one and check it out.
[15:03] <veenenen> i saw an old error that talked about boots taking 240+ seconds, so that could be showing up again too
[15:03] <veenenen> alright, awesome, thanks
[15:03] <smoser> yeah, that is a rare timing thing
[15:03] <smoser> that actually *coudl* be exposed more here on a slower system
[15:03] <smoser> but i doubt thats it .
[15:03] <smoser> i suspect 'nobootwait' needs to be written somewhere in /etc/fstab
[15:36] <smoser> veenenen, do you want to know how to fix ?
[15:38] <smoser> in /etc/fstab, you'll have an entry for /dev/sda2, which isn't present. mountall will run wait indefinitely for a device /dev/sda2 to appear on next boot.
[15:38] <smoser> and its not going to be there.
[15:38] <smoser> so, the solution is to just delete that  entry, and reboot (i think) will work. testing reboot now.
[15:40] <veenenen> great
[15:40] <veenenen> that would explain it
[15:42] <veenenen> that did it
[15:42] <veenenen> worked like a charm
[15:42] <veenenen> thanks
[15:52] <smoser> sudo sed -i.bk '/\/dev\/sda2/s,^,#,' /etc/fstab
[16:05] <smoser> fyi, i just opened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/634102 to address t1.micro issues on reboot
[16:05] <_mup_> Bug #634102: t1.micro instances hang on reboot <cloud-init (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/634102>
[16:05] <_mup_> Bug #634102: t1.micro instances hang on reboot <cloud-init (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/634102>
[16:05] <_mup_> Bug #634102: t1.micro instances hang on reboot <cloud-init (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/634102>
[16:06] <_mup_> Bug #634102: t1.micro instances hang on reboot <cloud-init (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/634102>
[16:06] <smoser> nice. uvirtbot and mup fight
[16:07] <smoser> you got the last word, mup
[17:37] <marrusl> Hey #ubuntu-cloud.  question:  I'm installing a node controller using the pre.seed (cd install) method and got this error just after selecting to install the server as a Node Controller:
[17:37] <marrusl> http://i52.tinypic.com/2ymu4oy.jpg
[17:38] <smoser> how did you supply the pre.seed ?
[17:39] <marrusl> booted 10.04.01 media and selected "install uec".  the install says it has detected a cloud controller, would you like to install a NC?
[17:40] <marrusl> so I leave just NC selected and continue, then that error.
[17:49] <smoser> bug you gve it a pre.seed
[17:49] <smoser> right ?
[17:52] <marrusl> nope.  I just chose "install ubuntu enterprise cloud"...  sorry to throw you off... I just meant the CD version of the UEC install.
[17:52] <marrusl> which does work off pre.seeds I thought... but no, nothing custom here, smoser.
[17:52] <smoser> ok.
[17:53] <smoser> well, its not something i've seen, and i've not tried install of 10.04.1 media.
[17:53] <smoser> but *someone* should have done that before release.
[17:53] <smoser> ttx, ^
[17:55] <marrusl> I'll see if I can get someone to swap in 10.04 GA media and see what happens.  The CLC/walrus/sc/cc is on one machine and was built with 10.04.01 for what it's worth.
[17:55] <marrusl> er... i.e. "swap in 10.04 media and retry the NC install"
[20:52] <veenenen> smoser: I've been trying to get the ec2 images to boot today, and am still not able to get it to work. I booted a blank vm into gparted and dd'd the lucid image to a sda1 partition on the new virtual drive, set the boot flag and repaired the file system. I checked the fstab and made sure that matched up. I then restart the vm, but it just sits there when it gets to "Booting from Hard Disk"
[20:53] <smoser> veenenen, well there is no bootloader installed.
[20:54] <smoser> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/Images has informatoin on how to boot them with little hassle.
[20:54] <smoser> (maverick only, admittedly)
[20:54] <veenenen> Sorry, I just found that page
[20:54] <veenenen> thanks
[23:10] <veenenen> smoser: so do you really only get one boot off the maverick images before you have to push them up to ec2?


[00:53] <blackboxsw> Hah unless @holmanb put up the pull request 6 hours ago oopsie
[03:18] <holman> @blackboxsw your version looks kinda familiar :D
[03:20] <holman> @blackboxsw +1 to blocking sru, can't release like this


[02:04] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> seems like the guy from yesterday filed his bug #2022966 oerheks
[02:25] -ubottu:#ubuntu-discuss- Bug 2022966 in Ubuntu "lenovo ideapad3 bright f-keys not working" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2022966


[14:05] <dashua> mac_v, Can you add a monochrome start-here for Humanity-Dark too? :)
[14:05] <dashua> Looks good.
[14:07] <mac_v> dashua: sure...
[14:08] <dashua> Sweet :)
[14:08] <mac_v> dashua: oh.. you'v been subscribed for the updates ? or did you catch the screenshot?
[14:08] <mac_v> updates in the branch*
[14:08] <dashua> Oh, I just randomly pull elementaryicons
[14:09] <dashua> Saw the update
[14:10] <mac_v> dashua: ;) ... hehe ... I'v been using that for long time , Didnt know it was allowed in Ubuntu... just added the icon since kwwii posted to the ML regarding that :)
[14:10] <dashua> Yeah, it looks cool
[14:22] <mac_v> dashua: pushed ;)
[14:23] <dashua> mac_v, Awesome
[14:28] <dashua> mac_v, http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/30980/screenshot_004_E0q3vn.png
[14:28] <dashua> Looks great
[14:29] <mac_v> dashua: thanks :)
[14:30] <mac_v> dashua: is the banshee icon 24px or 48px?
[14:31] <dashua> 24
[14:31] <dashua> Used that pack from GNOME-Look
[14:32] <mac_v> dashua: hmm , odd , it looks a bit blurred.. i thought the gnome-look had only the 48px icon
[14:33] <mac_v> dashua: heh , maybe i should release all the icons i have on gnome-look too ;p ;)
[14:33] <dashua> I would for consistency
[14:33] <dashua> The Shutter icon looks cool, but too big
[14:34] <mac_v> dashua: yeah , most of the icons are not dont to size. :(  there was one icon done in 256px 0.o
[14:34] <mac_v> not done*
[14:37] <dashua> Yeah, I see they are all over the map
[16:43] <kenvandine> hey rickspencer3
[16:44] <rickspencer3> hi kenvandine
[16:44] <rickspencer3> are you enroute?
[16:46] <kenvandine> soon
[16:46] <kenvandine> downloading stuff to hack on enroute :)
[16:47]  * TheMuso notes that rickspencer3 appears to be on 3G. :p
[16:48] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, how is wifi in the hotel?
[16:52] <rickspencer3> TheMuso, kenvandine yes, I use my 3g ;)
[16:55] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, does that mean wifi isn't up yet in the hotel for us?
[16:58] <TheMuso> kenvandine: Its available, but I wasn't able to connect yesterday when I tried, note that this is not Ubuntu wifi, but the hotel wifi. I am currently on ethernet.
[16:58] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, there is wifi, I just like my 3g
[17:01] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, when do you get here?
[17:01] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, i land at 5:25
[17:02] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, cool, don't forget about company dinner at 7:30!
[17:02] <kenvandine> oh... i didn't know :)
[17:03] <kenvandine> was there an email?
[17:03] <kenvandine> when and where?
[17:03] <TheMuso> kenvandine: On<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:03] <rickspencer3> kenvandine, yes, from jono I think
[17:05] <kenvandine> oh... the thing at 8
[17:05] <kenvandine> i didn't know it was a dinner
[17:06] <kenvandine> and i guess we need to be there at 7:30 :)
[17:06]  * kenvandine shouldn't ignore email from jono :-p
[17:06] <kenvandine> rickspencer3, any idea about this http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-l/track/desktop/ ?
[17:07] <kenvandine> been busted for a couple days
[17:23] <Amaranth> You've got multiple agendas, very ambitious ;)
[17:24] <TheMuso> rickspencer3: Do you know who propsed the accessibility by default spec? I certainly didn't. Its on Friday.
[17:24] <TheMuso> proposed
[17:25] <Amaranth> That's probably too ambitious for lucid
[17:25] <Amaranth> GNOME doesn't even turn it on by default due to issues although I hope they do for 3.0
[17:26] <TheMuso> Amaranth: I agree.
[17:26] <TheMuso> Which is why I wouldn't propose such a thing. :)
[17:26] <Amaranth> If you think client side windows caused lots of weird problems wait until you turn that on :)
[17:26] <TheMuso> Hey I'd love it if it was, since it would make doing other things so much easier, but its not a good idea right now.
[17:26] <TheMuso> Particularly since at-spi will be moving to dbus for GNOME 3.
[17:27] <Amaranth> Although the desktop itself works fine crazy things are sure to happen for things in universe
[17:27] <TheMuso> Yep.
[17:30] <rickspencer3> TheMuso, that;s from mpt
[17:30] <rickspencer3> he wants it on by default so that they can write some features on the desktop that are not for accessability per se
[17:31] <rickspencer3> TheMuso, can you bring that feedback to the session please?
[17:32] <TheMuso> rickspencer3: I;ve subscribed as being required for the session, so I'd be glad to.
[17:37]  * TheMuso completes his initial scan of sessions for this week.
[17:38] <TheMuso> c
[17:39]  * kenvandine heads out... see ya this evening!
[17:42] <rickspencer3> see ya kenvandine
[18:14] <dobey> hmm
[18:15] <dobey> airport living
[19:42] <Zloi_> hi


[02:50] <pleia2> :)
[02:56] <nhandler> Oh, there is a meeting in 2 days
[02:56] <pleia2> indeedy
[03:18] <pleia2> hooray czajkowski! http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/ubuntupeople-laura-czajkowski.html
[03:25] <nhandler> Cool, nice interview czajkowski
[06:22] <czajkowski> thanks
[06:41] <czajkowski> maco: I suspect many have blog posts ready to publish today at some point
[06:42] <czajkowski> mine was meant to auto publish hours ago but didn't
[07:24] <dholbach> good morning
[07:31] <AlanBell> pleia2: good class, just read the logs
[12:51] <akgraner> Hi all!   \o/ Happy Ada Lovelace Day!! \o/
[12:51] <czajkowski> morning loony toony :)
[12:52] <akgraner> czajkowski, great interview and thanks for the shout out in your blog post!! :-)
[12:52] <akgraner> also jono has a great post on his site as well check it out - http://www.jonobacon.org/
[12:53] <czajkowski> aye saw that
[12:53] <czajkowski> ;)
[12:53] <czajkowski> tis been a good day
[12:55] <czajkowski> nice to see all the posts on planet.ubuntu
[12:57] <nigelb> czajkowski: more to come.  there some lazy folks like me still writing :D
[12:58] <czajkowski> timezones
[12:58] <czajkowski> we've a whole day
[12:58] <nigelb> 49 hours to be exact for a day to finish in all TZs
[12:59] <czajkowski> interesting fact
[12:59] <czajkowski> :)
[13:48] <maco> czajkowski: the post you commented on is last year's. planet is brokenly displaying it again this year because i added a tag to it. its not even at the top of the rss feed, so i have no idea what the heck is going on with planet
[13:48] <czajkowski> maco: ah no bother, you can delete it so
[13:49] <nigelb> maco: must have just gotten added into planet category and planet thought it was a new post
[13:49] <maco> nigelb: i dont have a "planet" category
[13:49] <maco> every post goes to planet
[13:49] <nigelb> oh, then something is wrong, gah
[13:50] <maco> i just added a generic "Ada Lovelace Day" post so that this year's and last year's would share a tag
[13:50] <maco> er not post, tag
[13:50] <nigelb> kick blogger+planet combination then
[14:12] <czajkowski> maco: I didnt recognise Val with her short hair
[14:13] <czajkowski> she's a pretty cool person to hang out with
[14:13] <maco> did she grow it out again?
[14:14] <czajkowski> I met her when her hair was long
[14:14] <czajkowski> going by the pic on your post
[14:16] <czajkowski> maco: http://skycon.skynet.ie/2007/photos/index.php?file=./Evening_Events/img_5322.jpg
[14:16] <maco> an yeah 2007's quite a while back
[14:17] <czajkowski> aye
[14:17] <czajkowski> best pic from that event http://skycon.skynet.ie/2007/photos/index.php?file=./Skynet_Birthday_Banquet/img_5250.jpg Me with 7 presidents of skynet. I was the current one and the organiser of it
[14:59] <nigelb> czajkowski: nice interview :)
[14:59] <czajkowski> nigelb: thanks
[15:00] <nigelb> czajkowski: (I just saw it... jugging too many tasks today)
[15:00] <czajkowski> you and me both!
[15:01] <nigelb> ha, I have companionship
[15:01] <nigelb> my IRC client is lighting up too much with pokes
[16:17] <pleia2> thanks nigelb :)
[16:17] <nigelb> pleia2: :)
[16:17] <pleia2> AlanBell: glad you enjoyed it!
[16:40] <akgraner> New Blog Post - Women In, Near, and Around Ubuntu - Celebrating Ada Lovelace Day - Part 1 - http://is.gd/aWJLG
[16:42]  * nigelb bans akgraner from using NTEU after reporting kernel bug
[16:43] <nigelb> :D
[16:43] <akgraner> :-P  I still self I identify with it - I mean I hang out with kernel developers  - I don't feel so technical around them :-/
[16:44] <nigelb> akgraner: take a look at the mirror and look where you've reached :)
[16:44] <akgraner> hehe :-)
[16:55] <nigelb> Intersting article here http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2010/03/24/revenge-nerds-fighting-sexism-tech-events
[17:07] <nigelb> akgraner: if you have a say in design of ubuntu-user website, please change font and font size, a bit difficult to read right now
[17:07] <akgraner> nigelb, yeah I know :-(  I've been bugging them about it
[17:08] <nigelb> I would give up half way through if I were in a hurry
[17:08] <akgraner> nigelb, can you email me that at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>so I can forward it to the folks who maintain the site
[17:09] <nigelb> akgraner: sure
[17:11] <nigelb> akgraner: done!
[17:12] <akgraner> thanks  - I can tell them but when they start getting emails from folks - well you know how that goes :-)
[17:12] <nigelb> :)
[17:13] <nigelb> akgraner: if the guy who did that was a web designer, he needs quit and do something else.  Its really really bad
[17:14] <akgraner> I don't know who does it  - they are in Germany.. :-/  they use something called e-z publishing that's about all I know
[17:15] <nigelb> its a font appropriate for printing not reading off a screen
[17:15] <akgraner> thank you for the email  - also if anyone else wants to send some too - I'll forward those as well :-)
[17:16] <nigelb> no problem :)
[17:23] <nigelb> akgraner: this is how something I might want to read should look http://millionclues.com/
[17:24] <nigelb> the interface is simple and text is big
[17:25] <akgraner> *nods* - I'll pass it along
[17:27] <JanC> akgraner: http://ez.no/ ?
[17:50] <akgraner> JanC, my screen looks a little different but I believe that is it
[17:51] <akgraner> woo hoo - I'm nervous now - I'm going to be on FLOSSWeekly today
[17:57] <pleia2> akgraner: ooh, congrats :)
[17:58] <nigelb> akgraner: cheers :)
[18:01] <akgraner> thanks  - someone canceled so ... :-)
[18:14] <AlanBell> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon
[18:14] <AlanBell> talking about pleia2 at the moment
[18:15] <nigelb> pleia2++
[18:15] <pleia2> neat
[18:15] <pleia2> thanks AlanBell
[18:16] <nigelb> ara = qa legend :)
[18:17] <AlanBell> hmm, up pops a "chat with ukranian women" advert over Jono
[18:20] <czajkowski> listening to jono on ustream
[18:20] <czajkowski> featuring women in ubunut atm
[18:21] <AlanBell> you have been successfully pronounced already
[18:21] <AlanBell> where is he reading questions from?
[18:23] <czajkowski> from the chat panel
[18:24] <AlanBell> ah got it, clicked it and it sprung to life
[18:34] <nigelb> anyone wanna practice ops join ##pleia2
[20:44]  * AlanBell reads http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/ubuntupeople-laura-czajkowski.html
[20:49] <czajkowski> AlanBell: :)
[20:56] <Pendulum> czajkowski: 'twas a good interview :)
[22:34] <akgraner> wow  - got to send 15-20 minutes talking about Ubuntu Women  :-)  on FLOSS Weekly :-)   - I was sooo nervous, but it was pretty fun
[22:36] <pleia2> :D
[22:37] <valorie> nice!


[03:19] <joeyzero> Hai everyone
[03:33] <Saxman> Xubuntu 16.04 - display is 640X480 - how do I change it to 1024X768 or higher?
[05:47] <AndChat393204> hi .. i have a virus that lock apt when start and changes the bios settings! It corrupts my laptop .. how can i detecet this virus and delete it
[07:53] <Sebastiano> Salve
[07:54] <Sebastiano> ho un problema con la brother dcp-585cw
[07:55] <Sebastiano> mi da stampante inativa
[15:32] <pjotter> Hi everybody. Are there any people here that use Guake in Xubuntu 16.04?
[15:37] <bazhang> !info guake
[16:00] <xubuntu59i> hey!
[16:01] <xubuntu59i> урки
[16:50] <xubuntu09d> Spricht jemand deutsch?
[16:50] <knome> !de | xubuntu09d
[18:31] <xubuntu74d> HELP!! I HAVE FORGOTTEN MY PASSWORD ON MY LAPTOP AND I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING TO CHANGE IT
[18:34] <xubuntu74d> HELLO'
[18:35] <bazhang> !password
[19:16] <xubuntu01w> hi guys
[19:17] <xubuntu01w> i have some problems about suspend in 16.04
[19:17] <xubuntu01w> eth connection cannot restore itself after resume
[19:17] <xubuntu01w> and also cannot detect eth device/interface
[19:18] <xubuntu01w> any mathc?
[19:18] <xubuntu01w> match?
[20:34] <clockworkid> hi I am avery new user of xubuntu trying to use it instead of the dreaded windows 10
[20:34] <knome> hope you enjoy xubuntu then
[21:02] <pjotter> xubuntu09w: Did you have the problems in previous versions of Xubuntu aswell?
[21:05] <knome> pjotter, i think you are mixing up nicks..
[21:05] <pjotter> whoops
[21:07] <pjotter> I remember having same problems years ago. The problem got solved with updates but I think the real problem had a to do with my modem. Sometimes, when a connection becomes idle, the modem may disable a  connection and it takes a while. I had a workaround script that worked pretty well.
[21:12] <pjotter> knome: Do you, by any change, use the application "Guake"? It's a pop up terminal for the desktop.
[21:14] <mrkramps> pjotter, what exactly is your issue with guake?
[21:14] <pjotter> Since the upgrade to 16.04 there are problems with copying and pasting to Guake.
[21:15] <pjotter> Forst I thought it was a general issue.. but it seems only to affect guaek as far as I can tell
[21:17] <mrkramps> pjotter, using hotkeys?
[21:18] <pleia2> I have found that highlight paste doesn't work super reliably, but copy/paste in linux has been a bit hokey for years
[21:18] <pjotter> Problem is as follows: When copying and pasting something from an application like mousepad to guake, sometimes the copied text gets replaced by some white character (probably and enter)
[21:19] <pjotter> I only use the right mouseclick context menu for copy and pasting. But the issue is also present when using Ctrl-C (in mousepad) and the pesting it with the conext menu in guake.
[21:19] <pleia2> ah, I haven't had problems with ctrl+c
[21:20] <pjotter> pleia2: This is the first time I noticed these problems. I use the guakje terminal a lot and sometimes have to paste a loto of stuff in there. But now, half the time, something goes wrong.
[21:21] <CoolCanuck> Hi. Just curious if xubuntu would be ok to run as a server? Any downfalls to having it on 24/7?
[21:21] <pleia2> yeah, I use xfce4-terminal
[21:21] <pjotter> I can confirm that pasting, using Ctrl-V in guake results in no problems. Just using the context menu seems to be probelematic. Could a a bug in guake.
[21:21] <pleia2> CoolCanuck: most people running servers don't have a graphical interface, so Xubuntu would be an unusual choice
[21:21] <pleia2> CoolCanuck: but it's fine to run 24/7 (I do)
[21:22] <CoolCanuck> heh. Good point. Windows Server is often run with a GUI, though ;)
[21:22] <pleia2> I don't think anyone uses that anymore ;)
[21:22] <CoolCanuck> ;)
[21:22] <pleia2> the powershell and things on Windows have allowed folks to get away from that silliness
[21:23] <CoolCanuck> heh. Unless you're a networking student and still learning
[21:23] <pleia2> seems only legacy deployments are using Windows GUI these days
[21:23] <pleia2> ...or schools :D
[21:24] <pjotter> Sorry. Not Ctrl-V but Ctrl-Shift-V does the job in guake.
[21:24] <pleia2> anyway, for servers I tend to use Ubuntu Server, and ssh in to them from my Xubuntu desktop, if I do need a gui tool like wireshark I run that on my desktop, and scp the packet dump over
[21:24] <pleia2> there aren't a lot of gui tools for linux systems administration, it's still very command line based
[21:28] <CoolCanuck> is it possible to change the vnc window size ? total newb
[21:29] <pleia2> I think it depends on what vnc server and client you're using, but I don't have any experience with them
[21:29] <CoolCanuck> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/5sTW4TGZ/the%20height%20only%20fits%20if%20it's%20fullscreen
[21:29] <CoolCanuck>  ah ok. thanks :)
[21:31] <pjotter> Ok, I figured out what is going wrong here with the guake thing. Everone can sleep safely tonight, it's not Xubuntu.
[21:31] <pleia2> pjotter: hah, glad you got it sorted :)
[21:31] <pjotter> It's weird
[21:31] <pjotter> :D
[21:33] <mrkramps> "weird" sounds like it's linux =D
[21:35] <pjotter> I've not notied this behaviour before so, I'm still wondering why this is suddenly an issue. But I use a wacom pen. When I copy something from lets say mousepad, and then select the guake window by clicking on a random place on the guake window, sometimes, stuff gets selected withing the gauke window. But when you then perform a past inside guake, gauke will then look at the selected part, do a quick copy and then paste that selected
[21:37] <pjotter> It's general weuirdness within guake. I might drop this app and just work with the terminal instead.
[21:45] <xubuntu77w> On 16.04, a recent update to gtk2-engines-murrine has created a problem with the numix theme.  Desktop text and shadows are out of alignment.  It appears that line 531 in the gtk-2.0 stored is the problem.  Changing text style = 5 to 0 appears to resolve the problem.
[21:49] <xubuntu77w> Gtk-2.0 stored should read gtk-2.0/gtkrc
[23:17] <archmonkey> Hi guys, I am on a fresh install of xubuntu and when I try to watch netflix, I run into silverlight not being able to install
[23:17] <archmonkey> what should I do?
[23:22] <pencilandpaper> How won't it install, what does it say if you don't mind me asking archmonkey ?
[23:28] <pencilandpaper> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/easily-enable-silverlight-watch-netflix-linux/ <---- archmonkey .
[23:36] <CoolCanuck> ohwow
[23:36] <CoolCanuck> Are you absolutely sure netflix still uses silverlight?
[23:37] <CoolCanuck> In 2014 they ditched it for Chrome (perhaps not Chromium?) .. firefox should work too. https://gigaom.com/2014/11/26/netflix-silverlight-chrome/
[23:52] <pencilandpaper> Yeah I saw that as well CoolCanuck , I was just thinking who knows with that link. I would try it just in case.
[23:52] <CoolCanuck> :)
[23:53] <pencilandpaper> :)


[21:35] <newz2000> hi, I'm going to take the fridge offline for a few minutes here shortly
[21:35] <newz2000> I'm going to do a little prep first and offline time should be under 5min
[21:54] <newz2000> ok, fridge is going offline, this should not take long
[22:04] <newz2000> ok, should be back online now
[22:04] <newz2000> 10m. :-/ longer than I'd expected.
[22:06] <boredandblogging> newz2000: do anything fun to it?
[22:06] <newz2000> no, just patching to the latest release. There were some security updates though none critical that affect us.
[22:08] <Rinchen> ah, fridge love
[22:08] <Rinchen> We could use more fridge love there newz2000  :-)
[22:08] <newz2000> yeah
[22:09] <newz2000> there will be a new ubuntu* theme soon. Will be my best yet and can be used on the fridge to great affect I think.
[22:09] <Rinchen> nifty. I look forward to that.
[22:10] <Rinchen> I wonder what happened to that proposed restructuring of objects that was brought up on the list.  boredandblogging do you know?
[22:13] <boredandblogging> Rinchen: i never did anything with it
[22:14] <Rinchen> and I was so excited to see it happen to!
[22:14] <boredandblogging> what would be the next steps?
[22:14] <Rinchen> for you to do it.
[22:14] <boredandblogging> someone needs to probably clean up the css and theme in general, *cough* newz2000 *cough*
[22:14] <Rinchen> newz2000, do you now if we can put the fridge in maint mode? I think we can right?
[22:14] <Rinchen> so long as we're logged in as an admin
[22:14] <newz2000> yes, I just had it in maintenance mode
[22:15] <Rinchen> I mean us normal fridge people, not you :-D
[22:15] <newz2000> oh, no, I doubt it
[22:15] <newz2000> what do you need to do?
[22:15] <Rinchen> boredandblogging, created a new layout
[22:15] <newz2000> the blue one?
[22:15] <Rinchen> ya
[22:15] <Rinchen> it's a scheme and layout change
[22:15] <Rinchen> I'm interested in the layout
[22:16] <newz2000> I think that you can setup drupal so that special users can change their theme
[22:16] <newz2000> if you want to install it and see how it looks you could do it like that I think.
[22:16] <newz2000> boredandblogging: regarding css cleanup, wait till you see what I've done, its nice.
[22:17] <newz2000> switching to fixed width, which simplifies things dramatically, and using blueprint which simplifies even more
[22:18] <boredandblogging> oh sweet
[22:18] <newz2000> if you want to use the blue theme on fridge I'm game.
[22:19] <boredandblogging> can we try it out?
[22:19] <newz2000> where's the theme at?
[22:20] <boredandblogging> ahh crap
[22:20] <boredandblogging> its not checked in
[22:20] <boredandblogging> let me zip it up and send it to you
[22:20] <newz2000> ok
[22:24] <Rinchen> boredandblogging, you should dump that in bzr and push it to the fridge project on LP
[22:24] <Rinchen> hint
[22:24]  * Rinchen smiles.
[22:25] <newz2000> that wasn't a hint
[22:25] <newz2000> you should have said, "it'd be nice to have that in a bzr branch on LP"
[22:26] <Rinchen> ok
[22:26] <Rinchen> boredandblogging, what newz2000 said ;-)
[22:26] <boredandblogging> lol
[22:26] <boredandblogging> yeah, I know
[22:26] <boredandblogging> newz2000: sent to you
[22:27] <boredandblogging> it was sitting in a dreamhost account
[22:27] <boredandblogging> doubt bzr is installed
[22:27] <newz2000> I'll check it in
[22:27] <newz2000> things are moving slow on my PC today, so give me a few min
[22:32] <newz2000> nick, did you pick the name "lite jazz"?
[22:32] <boredandblogging> newz2000: lol, no
[22:33] <boredandblogging> the theme is from here: http://www.roopletheme.com/
[22:33] <newz2000> I've never used a settings.php file in a theme before, did you do that or did that just come from whoever made the original?
[22:34] <boredandblogging> newz2000: original
[22:35] <boredandblogging> i made very few changes, trying to get the header to look decent (which was a failure), some CSS changes
[22:36] <newz2000> I think the header will require new imagery
[22:36] <newz2000> boredandblogging: if you'd like to fiddle with it, I can send you my original svg file. If you'd rather not, I can fiddle with it later this week.
[22:36] <boredandblogging> newz2000: its all you
[22:37] <boredandblogging> my graphics skills suck
[22:41] <boredandblogging> minus the header, I would like to fiddle around with it using some real fridge content and see
[22:41] <boredandblogging> how it looks
[22:42] <newz2000> ok, I'll give it a shot.
[22:42] <newz2000> just pushing now
[22:42] <boredandblogging> cool
[22:44]  * newz2000 can't remember how to do it and resorts to scp
[22:46] <boredandblogging> heh
[22:47] <newz2000> ok, when you log in now, you should be able to edit your user account and choose litejazz as your theme.
[22:50] <boredandblogging> the right needed to be turned on, I turned it on for administrators
[23:21] <boredandblogging> would it bother anyone if I aggregated a couple of feeds on the fridge to test out the theme?
[23:21] <boredandblogging> we can always delete it later
[23:26] <Rinchen> which ones?
[23:26] <newz2000> you may not be able to
[23:26] <newz2000> that machine is firewalled
[23:32] <boredandblogging> i was thinking of the security updates
[23:32] <boredandblogging> and one more
[23:33] <boredandblogging> forums maybe