[00:09] <jassm> hello
[00:10] <jassm> Daddy finger
[15:47] <minimal> holmanb: starting to wonder if it was a bad idea for me to do the RHEL/Fedora and FreeBSD changes in my PR, wondering whether to remove them and just stick with the other Alpine/Debian/Ubuntu related changes
[15:57] <meena> minimal: +1 from me; I'll happily put the FreeBSD back in instead of you
[22:20] <meena> somebody here will have to explain to me net.get_ib_interface_hwaddr() and net.get_ib_interface_hwaddr()
[22:21] <meena> Those to functions feel… intertwined in the wrongest possible way
[22:21] <meena> Also, I need to make them understand duplicate mac addresses…
[22:23] <meena> What, exactly, is /sys/net/<blah>/type and where is that documented?
[22:25] <falcojr>  /sys/class/net is part of sysfs. https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man5/sysfs.5.html
[22:25] <falcojr> did you post the same function above? I see net.get_ib_interface_hwaddr() twice (or can't tell the difference :P )
[22:33] <meena> falcojr: i… did
[22:33] <meena> net.get_ib_hwaddrs_by_interface()
[22:34] <meena> calls     for name, _, _, _ in get_interfaces(): and then gets upset if there's duplicate nics
[22:34] <meena> but it also calls         ib_mac = get_ib_interface_hwaddr(name, False)
[22:34] <meena> which calls         mac = get_interface_mac(ifname)
[22:34] <meena> and i just don't understand why we're not calling get_interfaces_by_mac() to begin with!?
[22:38] <falcojr> I'm guessing that infiniband devices present differently, so they need a different code path
[22:42] <meena> falcojr: whether they are present or not is checked by name, which get_interfaces_by_mac() also returns, IIRC
[22:43] <meena> basically, this is just very inefficient from an algorithmic point of view, given that these two functions very often interact.
[22:44] <meena> either way, I need to find/fake infiniband hardware, to find out what the FreeBSD equivalent of  /sys/class/net/<net-dev>/type is
[22:45] <meena> or I'll be eating my words about how cool BSD's ifconfig(8) is…
[22:46] <falcojr> I mean in a different location in sysfs, so they won't get returned in the normal get_interfaces_by_mac() call. Just guessing though...haven't looked deep enough yet
[22:48] <minimal> infiniband devices tend to be able to operate in either ethernet or IB mode. I think IB MAC addresses are longer than ethernet MAC addresses
[22:50] <meena> hrm, we have laggtype ethernet / infiniband
[22:56] <minimal> meena: What:		/sys/class/net/<iface>/type
[22:56] <minimal> Date:		April 2005
[22:56] <minimal> KernelVersion:	2.6.12
[22:56] <minimal> Contact<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:56] <minimal> Description:
[22:56] <minimal> 		Indicates the interface protocol type as a decimal value. See
[22:56] <minimal> 		include/uapi/linux/if_arp.h for all possible values.
[22:57] <meena> i'm guessing anything with media-type 10GBase will probably be infiniband, eh?
[22:57] <minimal> that include file shows infiniband as 32 and ethernet as 1
[22:57] <meena> or is there regular ethernet that can do 40G, or 100G?
[22:58] <meena> meena: and that's it?
[22:59] <minimal> meena: did you mean to ask yourself or to ask me? lol
[22:59] <meena> minimal: it's time to ask: why is meena not in bed yet
[23:00] <minimal> it's time for me to ask you if you asked yourself that yet?
[23:00] <minimal> as for those defs, there's plenty of other types defined there, e.g. PPP, AX25, Appletalk, etc
[23:02] <meena> minimal: how many of your cloud-servers speak Appletalk, tho?
[23:04] <minimal> it's not a cloud file though, it's a Linux kernel header file
[23:06] <minimal> heck there's Econet defined there which I don't think anyone has used since about 1986-ish lol
[23:07] <meena> every two weeks or so, I feel like I've started this all wrong, and should've began by adding libxo support to ifconfig
[23:08] <meena> i… might just do that, tho that still won't give me access to infiniband hardware… hrm…
[23:08] <meena> anyway, sleep time, I can read code in bed, too
[23:16] <holmanb> minimal: +1 if that's what you want to do
[23:19] <holmanb> meena: 10G, 40G, 100G, 400G ethernet also exist
[23:20] <minimal> holmanb: well FreeBSD seems to have different behaviour/layouts for <14.0 and 14.0+, and on the RHEL/Fedora size there seems to be no clear information on how to delete system CAs
[23:20] <minimal> holmanb: you forgot 2.5G ;-)
[23:20] <holmanb> meena:  If you're looking for IB hardware, you should be able to find it pretty cheap secondhand. ConnectX 4 and 5 is probably not hard to find, it might be too early for ConnectX 6 on the secondary market
[23:21] <holmanb> minimal: I don't think I've ever bothered with 2.5G, but I've tested gear with all the other numbers I mentioned ;)
[23:21] <minimal> old IB tends to be cheap if you directly connect machine to machine, IB switches tend to be still relatively expensive
[23:24] <holmanb> if the card(s) you get are in ethernet mode, the tool to reflash the cards is called mstflint
[23:26] <holmanb> at least on mellanox anyways


[08:13] <ogra-nx7> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Ubuntu-Installer-fuer-Nexus-7-veroeffentlicht-1737977.html
[08:14] <ogra-nx7> for the germans in here
[08:35] <morphis> janimo: ping
[09:07] <janimo> morphis, pong
[09:08] <morphis> janimo: saw you did the the linux-firmware package for the nexus7
[09:08] <janimo> morphis, right, added the google nexus binaries needed for wifi and bluetooth in the regular linux-image package
[09:08] <morphis> janimo: ok, you thought about the licensing stuff?
[09:09] <morphis> as I am a little bit confused wether it's allowed to redistribute the binaries
[09:09] <janimo> morphis, yes. It is not clear yet, hence it is not in the main archives
[09:09] <janimo> waiting for some decisions from above
[09:09] <janimo> morphis, it is blurry indeed
[09:09] <morphis> ok, I have the same issue over at the webos-ports project (maybe you know about it)
[09:09] <morphis> not regarding the nexus7 but the galaxy nexus phone
[09:10] <janimo> morphis, yes, heard about it
[09:10] <LetoThe2nd> ogra-nx7: yay for nx7 ;)
[09:10] <morphis> ok, so you're on the way finding about the legal situation and if we're allowed to redistribute the binaries?
[09:10] <janimo> morphis, I have not read the EULA but I think from what I glanced from it it does not allow redistribution
[09:10] <ogra-nx7> LetoThe2nd, :)
[09:10] <morphis> yes, thats what I gather from it too
[09:11] <morphis> but I am not a lawyer
[09:11] <janimo> morphis, yes, I just forwarded the request inside Canonical. No ideas when a decision is made.
[09:11] <morphis> ok
[09:11] <janimo> morphis, in either case you can probably reuse whatever the official Ubuntu solution on the nexus will be
[09:12] <morphis> yes, will be a solution for wifi/bluetooth part
[09:22] <morphis> janimo: thanks a lot for the infos
[09:22] <janimo> morphis, np
[09:24] <marvin24> janimo: I received the (lgpl licensed) source for libgstomx (gstreamer plugin for tegra*)
[09:25] <marvin24> do you think one could make a package out of it?
[09:25] <janimo> ogra-nx7, ^ :)
[09:25] <marvin24> the source for libgstnvxvimagesink is till missing though
[09:25] <janimo> marvin24, I know ogra has been packaging some video codecs at least
[09:25] <janimo> marvin24, not yet released or no plan for releasing?
[09:26] <marvin24> janimo: it's on gitorious, wait ...
[09:26] <marvin24> https://gitorious.org/nvtegra-gst/gstomx
[09:26] <marvin24> but just the raw stuff from nv
[09:27] <marvin24> needs a lot of work to get something useful out of it
[09:27] <marvin24> (I even haven't tried yet)
[09:28] <janimo> marvin24, and this uses their binary OMX support libs?
[09:28] <marvin24> janimo: half of it
[09:28] <marvin24> there are two files needed
[09:29] <marvin24> libgstnvxvimagesink is missing
[09:29] <marvin24> it is linked against their binary only libs
[09:30] <marvin24> and based upon the official gstream omx plugin (http://freedesktop.org/wiki/GstOpenMAX)
[09:30] <marvin24> so a "patch" would be sufficient
[09:31] <marvin24> I don't know if ubuntu already ships this library
[09:31] <marvin24> it has support for omap already as it seems
[09:35] <ogra-nx7> marvin24, after uds i'll look into that
[09:36] <ogra-nx7> the tegra2 codecs package is stuck in NEW atm
[09:44] <marvin24> ogra-nx7: plugin is also for tegra3 I think
[09:45] <ogra-nx7> yep, should be very high level
[09:45] <ogra-nx7> but it will need a dep/recomends for he codecs
[09:46] <ogra-nx7> so codecs have to in go first
[11:20] <xranby_ac100> Monday 2012-10-29 schedule: #linaro #linaroconnect http://summit.linaro.org/lce12/2012-10-29/ and #ubuntu #uds http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/2012-10-29/ - remote participation is possible
[11:25] <ogra-nx7> rsalveti, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-r-rebuild-gl-games-for-gles do you know how much linaro has done in that direction yet ?
[11:31] <xranby_ac100> ogra-nx7: on this topic. for java opengl games we till try to produce tutorials: http://forum.jogamp.org/Jake2-JOGL2-Port-tp4026412.html
[11:41] <ogra-nx7> xranby_ac100, awesome !
[11:46] <xranby_ac100> ogra-nx7: cheers
[11:49] <xranby_ac100> ogra-nx7: is this blueprint scheduled during uds or linaroconnect?
[11:49] <xranby_ac100> i would love to attend it.
[11:52] <ogra-nx7> xranby_ac100, i just gave it to seb128, it should show up on the schedule at some point, just subscribe as essential
[11:53] <xranby_ac100> great i will attend
[12:09] <ben1066> heh, nexus 7 scores about 130 on glmark2-es2
[12:30] <rsalveti> ogra_: not many yet, but it'd be nice to review it anyway
[12:36] <ben1066> Im not sure Ubuntu likes me, my confirmation code was PrlckL >_>
[12:40] <RoyK> ben1066: :D
[12:40] <ben1066> Need to remember to watch the Valve one later...
[13:05] <jayrads> Hi all, question about installing ubuntu on nexus 7. If I want to go back to android, can I just restore a nandroid or flash a ROM? Didn't notice it on the wiki
[13:28] <jayrads> Is this the wrong channel for my previous question? Anyone?
[13:28] <achiang> jayrads: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation#Returning_your_Nexus_7_to_Stock_Android
[13:29] <jayrads> achiang: Ahh, thank you :)
[13:29] <achiang> np
[14:24] <ben1066> Hmm
[14:24] <ben1066> If we held back the packages needed for nexus 7
[14:24] <ben1066> could be add security and updates?
[15:33] <bizulk> while I had time I did wanted to test the bug correction for ubuntu precise on arm (Bug 1058022). So I inserted my old card : and now the boot process is stuck on "waiting for network configuration". I don't have a valid ethernet config I must set it after booting.
[15:33] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1058022 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "no tidspbridge support in kernel." [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1058022
[15:33] <bizulk> cool this bot parse my msg to post any bug reference...
[15:34] <GrueMaster> bizulk: Which platform is this?
[15:34] <bizulk> GrueMaster: beagleboard xM
[15:35] <GrueMaster> Yea, that has been problematic for a long time.  I filed several bugs to get the proper kernel module built-in instead of modular, but no one seems to care.
[15:37] <bizulk> GrueMaster: I remember I had this pb, but the boot wasn't stuck on this. But may retry my backup restore (I did dd backup when everything was fine)
[15:39] <GrueMaster> Interesting that bug 1058022 shows "Fix Committed", but bug 838200 only shows confirmed.  They're the same issue.
[15:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1058022 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "no tidspbridge support in kernel." [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1058022
[15:39] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 838200 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "No network support on Beagle XM" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838200
[15:42] <bizulk> GrueMaster: 'xcuse me but tidspbridge has nothing to do with network support
[15:45] <GrueMaster> iirc, the bridge is needed for ethernet and audio to work.  Granted, it has been a while since I tested BEagleXM (3/2012), but that was the issue I had since Natty.
[15:47] <bizulk> GrueMaster: tidspbridge is about DSP/CPU communication
[15:49] <GrueMaster> Ok, then I'm thinking on another bug of mine.  Bottom line is I had submitted a config fix for these issues, but they were ignored.
[15:50] <bizulk> GrueMaster: refresh their "memory"
[15:56] <GrueMaster> Ah, I was thinking of bug 925094 (which also had a patch for bug 838200).  But as I said, I stopped working on beagleXM around 12.04 Beta 1.
[15:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 925094 in linux (Ubuntu) "No audio on omap (beagleXM) system" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/925094
[15:56] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 838200 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "No network support on Beagle XM" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838200
[16:38] <ojn> I'm getting 404 on http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/. Looks like something has happened and there's now a ubuntu-ports/ubuntu-ports/dists dir. This breaks apt-get, etc.
[16:38] <ojn> Not sure if there's an infrastructure channel to bugreport on?
[17:57] <ben1066> Ubuntu on Nexus 10 and Nexus 4? Make it happen :P
[21:10] <keithzg> Seems like the Nexus 4 might be an issue depending on the cellular radio. Hell, the Nexus 7 with 3G might pose an interesting challenge.
[21:17] <keithzg> I'm actually shocked the Nexus 7 apparently works as well as it does; most of the time with these commercial devices, the driver situation is too ugly
[21:17] <keithzg> That's what's held up the Vivaldi, they can't even find a supplier who'll give them source code.
[21:22] <GrueMaster> For the most part, Arm SOC's have been fairly open.  It is only the graphics that have been closed.  Granted, this is critical for any GUI interface development.
[21:27] <nikis> I used my Nexus 7 with 3G today.
[21:27] <nikis> Worked great.
[21:28] <nikis> Though I was cheating and using an external 3G dongle ;)
[21:28] <nikis> OTG cables are nice.
[21:43] <mlankhorst> well
[21:44] <keithzg> GrueMaster I'd say the cellular stacks have also been closed. It's only two areas . . . but without graphics or cellular networking, well, that's why we mostly aren't installing real Linux on our phones yet.
[21:45]  * mlankhorst points at his n9
[21:45] <mlankhorst> real linux!
[21:45] <keithzg> a great example
[21:45] <keithzg> of how that's an issue :(
[21:46] <keithzg> luckily we can install stuff because Nokia employees working under their NDAs have written the drivers that'd be needed
[21:46] <keithzg> that's why if I wanted I could install whatever I wanted on my N900 or N9! And that's awesome, but it's far from common.
[21:47] <keithzg> Hopefully Jolla takes that a step further, since it's based on Mer. The only thing that makes me sad about that is it's RPM rather than DEB, and I think I speak for many people here when I say I far prefer the Debian way :)
[21:48]  * keithzg still hasn't gotten tired of using apt-get on his phone
[21:48] <mlankhorst> it is rpm based? >:(
[21:48] <keithzg> Yeah, Mer is RPM based, since MeeGo was.
[21:49] <keithzg> The N9 is Harmattan, ie. Nokia's Debian-based Distro with as many of the same packages as MeeGo has.
[21:49] <keithzg> So applications written for the N9 will (in theory) run fine on anything Mer based with the rest of the stack, but the underlying system is yum/rpm rather than apt/deb.
[22:12] <mlankhorst> :-(
[22:27] <keithzg> To be fair, the days of RPM Hell are mostly gone. Red Hat seems to have ironed how the issues, embarassed by the mindshare dominance Debian was enjoying.
[22:47] <GrueMaster>  I'd have to agree with this.  A large part of the rpm hell was the lack of a repository management system (like apt).  If you run dpkg -i on a downloaded package without having the required pre-requisites, it will complain just as much as rpm -i will.
[22:48] <GrueMaster> Although the apt solution is far more mature than the various rpm solutions (zypper, yum, etc).
[22:50] <baggers> HI all, I'm currently trying to compile ECL http://ecls.sourceforge.net/ for the nexus7. I can see that the older version 11.1.1 has been packaged and is in the repos. Is there any way to find out what configure options were used to get it to build? I'm a real newbie to all this side of things having been spoilt with scripting languages for too long!
[22:54] <GrueMaster> baggers: Which distro release?
[22:54] <GrueMaster> Oh, nm.  Found it.
[22:56] <baggers> Ah it must be something in the latest version (12.7.1) that is causing the issue as the nexus is building 11.1.1 from source now without issues
[22:57] <GrueMaster> If you go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecl/11.1.1-4ubuntu1, you can download the build source and see the build logs.  This may help in getting a newer build to compile.  Not sure (been a while since I built a deb package from updated source).
[23:00] <baggers> Cheers, I'll have a read. The error that was thrown on trying to 'make' was :/tmp/ccVddsAh.s:72: Error: thumb conditional instruction should be in IT block -- `strexeq r4,r1,[r2]'...which from a quick google seems to be a known issue for arm7 with some software but to be honest it was so far over my head that I barely heard the woosh it made as it sailed by!
[23:01] <GrueMaster> Heh.


[02:44] <RAOF> 🎉
[08:57] <Saviq> Good morn'
[09:23] <RAOF> Mornang.
[09:43] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths opened [pull request #2511](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2511): Clean up legacy feature checks
[09:43] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server-
[09:43] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- > I noticed a bunch of feature checks that are not needed for any supported series and cleaned them up
[11:16] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** RAOF opened [pull request #2512](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2512): platform/graphics: Drop `DisplayConfiguration::for_each_card`
[11:16] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server-
[11:16] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- > Nothing has ever used this information, and in the new platform interface we have one `DisplayPlatform` per card anyway.
[15:50] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #2512](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2512): platform/graphics: Drop `DisplayConfiguration::for_each_card`
[15:56] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** AlanGriffiths opened [pull request #2513](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2513): Impish is obsolete
[16:56] <Saviq> Good night all o/
[17:04] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** bors[bot] merged [pull request #2513](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2513): Impish is obsolete
[20:50] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- **[MirServer/mir]** wmww opened [pull request #2514](https://github.com/MirServer/mir/pull/2514): Refactor pointer events to use geometry types
[20:50] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server-
[20:50] -GitHub[m]:#mir-server- > Also adds a single pointer event builder method that includes all properties, and deprecates the older event builder methods.


[14:08] <cody-somerville> bdrung, persia, Laney, geser, stgraber: ping
[14:08] <stgraber> pong, though on a call
[14:09] <stgraber> IIRC we only have one name on the agenda and said we'd review it at our next meeting as it's less than a week old
[14:10] <cody-somerville> Okay.
[14:11] <stgraber> e-mail from Laney to devel-permissions last week
[14:13] <stgraber> cody-somerville: I also offered cyphermox to sponsor any usb-modeswitch upload he has to do until our next meeting as I'm quite familiar with the work he's been doing on it
[14:50] <bdrung> cody-somerville: pong. :)
[14:52] <jelmer> bdrung: Sorry, forgot to update you on lptools earlier. lifeless is happy with me adding myself as uploader to lptools, so I'm going to do that and get the current version in sid.
[14:59] <ara> hello all
[15:00] <bdrung> jelmer: np. i hadn't time to look at the proposed merges for u-d-t
[15:01] <ara> anyone for the UF meeting?
[15:01] <akgraner> o/
[15:02] <victorp> o/
[15:02] <ara> akgraner, cool
[15:02] <ara> OK, getting started
[15:02]  * ara hopes that people realised of the change of room
[15:02] <ara> #startmeeting
[15:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Aug 29 15:02:43 2011 UTC.  The chair is ara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
[15:02] <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.
[15:02] <ara> agenda:
[15:03] <ara> * Mockups!
[15:03] <ara> Today we have a very small agenda
[15:03] <ara> #topic Mockups!
[15:03] <meetingology> TOPIC: Mockups!
[15:03] <ara> This week we are working in getting the basics of the UF programme ready to be used
[15:03] <ara> One of the things that we are doing is to try to understand how the UF should look like
[15:04] <ara> We came up with this mock up:
[15:04] <ara> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFriendly/MockUps
[15:04] <ara> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFriendly/MockUps
[15:04] <ara> The home page shows the different configurations and their rating
[15:05] <ara> and some filters to find the information you need to find
[15:05] <ara> We are trying to solve the problem of the different configurations, while having a simple UI
[15:06] <ara> Once anyone clicks on one of this configurations, the config page
[15:06] <ara> shows
[15:06] <ara> where you can see the different results for that configuration
[15:07] <ara> with the complete list of components
[15:07] <ara> and similar models based on the model name
[15:07] <ara> ..
[15:07] <ara> Anybody have any comments / suggestions?
[15:07] <roadmr> o/
[15:07] <ara> roadmr, go ahead :D
[15:08] <roadmr> we talked about a link to a comments page, to be hosted in launchpad answers, just to make sure that doesn't get forgotten :)
[15:08] <roadmr> ..
[15:08] <ara> roadmr, I remember something like that from the last meeting
[15:09] <ara> what kind of information we should put on lp answers?
[15:09] <ara> ..
[15:09] <roadmr> like if any user has a comment on the system
[15:09] <roadmr> "the default drivers don't work, use the broadcom proprietary ones"
[15:09] <roadmr> "update to bios version x.xx and then everything works well"
[15:10] <roadmr> "you need a dkms package to enable full touchpad functionality, get it here http:/xxxxxx"
[15:10] <roadmr> stuff like that - a comment like that would be useful for the model of laptop I have, for instance
[15:10] <roadmr> everything works well save for the trackpad, but a simple dkms module enables it
[15:10] <roadmr> ..
[15:10] <akgraner> o/
[15:10] <ara> akgraner, you go
[15:11] <akgraner> while all those comments would be great that roadmr mentioned - none of the "regular ole end users" would even know how to do those things
[15:11] <roadmr> o/
[15:11] <akgraner> or even comment on them so keeping the technical stuff answers on LP answers would be good
[15:12] <akgraner> could we also use Ask Ubuntu as another resource?...
[15:13]  * ara waits a bit to see if akgraner has finished
[15:13] <akgraner> ... (yep) sorry
[15:13] <ara> roadmr, you go
[15:13] <roadmr> heh .. so I see akgraner's point, but having a way to either ask or see comments about a system is important
[15:14] <roadmr> otherwise people won't know where to go for that kind of stuff (and it *will* come up)
[15:14] <roadmr> and when they get mad about their devices not working even though the system had 4 stars, they'll complain anywhere they can heh
[15:14] <roadmr> ..
[15:15] <ara> I like it, maybe we can use one "question" per system for the comments
[15:15] <ara> but yes, something that we need to study how to get it right
[15:15] <ara> ..
[15:15] <ara> Any other comments on the mockups?
[15:16] <ara> akgraner, how do you like them?
[15:16] <akgraner> I like them and I like the search option
[15:16] <akgraner> they seem easy to point people too
[15:16] <akgraner> ..
[15:17] <ara> good :)
[15:17] <ara> anything else? or shall we move on?
[15:17] <ara> OK, moving on then
[15:17] <ara> #topic - Any Other Business?
[15:17] <meetingology> TOPIC: - Any Other Business?
[15:17] <ara> (this meeting is going to be fast)
[15:18] <akgraner> o/
[15:18] <ara> akgraner, go ahead
[15:18] <akgraner> Global Jam
[15:18] <akgraner> I volunteered my LUG and LoCo team to go through system testing
[15:18] <ara> perfect!
[15:18] <akgraner> and I'll have the slides ready for your review sometime today
[15:19] <akgraner> that way I can point out pain points or questions
[15:19] <akgraner> I've also had other LoCo teams standing by for testing for release party time
[15:19] <akgraner> ..
[15:19] <ara> akgraner, awesome, send them in, and I will review them
[15:19] <akgraner> will do thanks
[15:19] <ara> when is global jam?
[15:19] <akgraner> ..
[15:19] <ara> (exactly)
[15:20] <ara> Ok, this weekend
[15:20] <akgraner> Sept 2-4
[15:20] <ara> perfect, we want to have a new Checkbox version ready in Oneiric with the UF tests ready
[15:20] <ara> for this weekend
[15:21] <akgraner> great!  Let me know when they are in place and I'll replace the screenshots I have
[15:21] <ara> ..
[15:21] <akgraner> ..
[15:21] <ara> akgraner, it shouldn't affect your screenshots, it will look the same, but with more tests
[15:21] <akgraner> nods
[15:22] <ara> OK, any other stuff?
[15:22] <akgraner> that's all I got
[15:22] <akgraner> ..
[15:23] <ara> going once
[15:23] <ara> going twice
[15:23] <ara> #endmeeting
[15:23] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Aug 29 15:23:56 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot . (v 0.1.4)
[15:23] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-29-15.02.moin.txt
[15:24] <ara> Thanks all!
[15:24] <roadmr> \o/ thanks!
[15:24] <akgraner> thanks ara!
[17:00] <jdstrand> hi!
[17:01] <kees> \o
[17:01] <jjohansen> o/
[17:01] <jdstrand> let's get started
[17:01] <jdstrand> #startmeeting
[17:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Aug 29 17:01:35 2011 UTC.  The chair is jdstrand. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
[17:01] <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.
[17:02] <jdstrand> The meeting agenda can be found at:
[17:02] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting
[17:02] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Announcements
[17:02] <meetingology> TOPIC: Announcements
[17:03] <jdstrand> tyhicks starts on the Ubuntu Security team today. He will be working on security updates for Ubuntu in general, as well as ecryptfs and other interesting stuff. Welcome!
[17:03] <tyhicks> jdstrand: Thank you!
[17:03] <sbeattie> tyhicks: Welcome!
[17:03] <jjohansen> tyhicks: good to have you on board
[17:03] <tyhicks> I really appreciate it and am excited to dive in
[17:04]  * jdstrand hugs tyhicks
[17:04] <jdstrand> :)
[17:04] <tyhicks> :)
[17:04] <jdstrand> in other news, mdeslaur is off this week
[17:04] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report
[17:04] <meetingology> TOPIC: Weekly stand-up report
[17:05] <bliss> hooray more ubuntu security team members
[17:05] <jdstrand> so, I have a lot of disparate things going on right now. with mdeslaur out, I figured I would do both triager and community work this week
[17:05] <sbeattie> jdstrand: you sure? I can pick up triaging this week if you like
[17:05] <jdstrand> in addition to that I plan to get back to defining dbus/apparmor tests and my metrics work items (neither of which I got to last week)
[17:06] <jdstrand> sbeattie: I'm sure-- this will allow you guys to have more time for remaining work items, etc
[17:06] <jdstrand> that said, it isn't something I plan on doing regularly :P
[17:07] <sbeattie> heh
[17:07] <jdstrand> I think that's it from me. kees?
[17:07] <bliss> paging /proc commander
[17:07] <kees> I'm going to be focusing on work item bits, documentation, and anything else that comes up. there are a few kernel updates in the pipe for the ARM flavors as well.
[17:07] <jdstrand> hehe
[17:07]  * kees pokes bliss in the eye :)
[17:08]  * jdstrand loves that title btw :)
[17:08] <kees> that's about it from me.
[17:08] <kees> heh
[17:08] <jdstrand> awesome ring to it
[17:09] <jdstrand> sbeattie: you're up
[17:09] <sbeattie> I'll be cleaning up my work items this week, spending time on apparmor stuff.
[17:10] <sbeattie> I think that's it for me, I may pick up an update in the background.
[17:10] <jdstrand> micahg: you're next
[17:12] <micahg> chromium going out today, a little behind on the Firefox 6 migration for maverick, that should at least get built this week, depending on whether or not it'll impact the beta due to buildd time for translations, we might not move to proposed after beta, patch piloting, then back to webkit if there's time
[17:12] <micahg> *until after beta
[17:12] <micahg> that's it I think
[17:13] <jdstrand> tyhicks: you're next
[17:14] <tyhicks> My main focus will be on the new hire tasks (setting up accounts, configuring applications, joining proper mailing lists, etc.). When not working on those things, I'll need to tend to the eCryptfs bug and mailing list backlog that built up while leaving my old employer and last week while I was ignoring all things electronic. :)
[17:15] <jdstrand> cool
[17:15] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Highlighted packages
[17:15] <meetingology> TOPIC: Highlighted packages
[17:15] <jdstrand> The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security.
[17:15] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/collectd.html
[17:15] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/firebird2.1.html
[17:15] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/openarena.html
[17:15] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/lxr.html
[17:15] <jdstrand> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/cakephp.html
[17:15] <jdstrand> [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions
[17:15] <meetingology> TOPIC: Miscellaneous and Questions
[17:15] <bliss> haha lxr
[17:16] <jdstrand> jjohansen: is there anything specific you need from me at this point to assist with dbus/apparmor? I am defining and implementing test cases (or at least as much as I can without the syntax and packages) right now
[17:16] <jjohansen> ah yeah
[17:17] <jjohansen> I will actually have some packages for you to test today
[17:17]  * jjohansen has a few more revisions to test but /me thinks we have chased down the crashers that kept taking the bus down
[17:17] <jjohansen> basically jdstrand I need to work with you on the policy language a bit
[17:18] <jdstrand> jjohansen: ack. thanks again for all your work on that! :)
[17:18] <jjohansen> but we can do that in #apparmor
[17:18]  * jdstrand nods
[17:18]  * jdstrand encourages sbeattie and kees to at least listen in as well if they have time
[17:19] <jdstrand> but that probably isn't super required right now, as I imagine we'll be iterating it a bit and then submitting to the list
[17:19] <sbeattie> sure
[17:19]  * kees nods
[17:19] <jdstrand> thanks
[17:19] <jdstrand> Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss?
[17:20] <jdstrand> go once..
[17:21] <jdstrand> going twice..
[17:21] <jdstrand> #endmeeting
[17:21] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Aug 29 17:21:13 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot . (v 0.1.4)
[17:21] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-29-17.01.moin.txt
[17:21] <jdstrand> thanks everyone! :)
[17:22] <micahg> thanks jdstrand
[17:23] <kees> thanks jdstrand!
[18:08] <AlanBell> #startmeeting test meeting
[18:08] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Aug 29 18:08:36 2011 UTC.  The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
[18:08] <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endmeetingforce #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired
[18:08] <AlanBell> #topic foo
[18:08] <AlanBell> #topic bar
[18:09] <AlanBell> #votesrequired 3
[18:09] <meetingology> votes now need 3 to be passed
[18:09] <AlanBell> #vote test vote
[18:09] <meetingology> Please vote on: test vote
[18:09] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[18:09] <AlanBell> +1
[18:09] <meetingology> +1 received from AlanBell
[18:09] <AlanBell> anyone else want to vote?
[18:09] <pleia2> +1
[18:09] <meetingology> +1 received from pleia2
[18:10] <micahg> +1
[18:10] <meetingology> +1 received from micahg
[18:10] <AlanBell> elky: what do you think of the current /topic behaviour?
[18:10] <AlanBell> #endvote
[18:10] <meetingology> Voting ended on: test vote
[18:10] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[18:10] <meetingology> Motion carried
[18:10] <AlanBell> #chair pleia2
[18:10] <meetingology> Current chairs: AlanBell pleia2
[18:11] <AlanBell> #subtopic this is like a topic but less so
[18:11] <AlanBell> turns up in the minutes in a list
[18:12] <AlanBell> there is #endmeetingforce now which will allow anyone to close a running meeting if one is left open
[18:12] <micahg> AlanBell: would you like me to test that?
[18:12] <AlanBell> and you can do "#startmeeting Loco Council" or whatever to put the meeting name in the logs
[18:12] <AlanBell> micahg: go ahead
[18:13] <micahg> #endmeetingforce
[18:13] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Aug 29 18:13:04 2011 UTC.
[18:13] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-29-18.08.moin.txt
[18:13] <stgraber> AlanBell: is that something you could potentially restrict to /ubuntu/members or similar? (not that I think we need it at this point)
[18:13] <AlanBell> still loads of bugs in the output, but the command bugs are mostly gone now
[18:13] <pleia2> AlanBell: could it be something like anyone with ops? (all ubuntu members have ops)
[18:13] <pleia2> well, all with the member cloak can *get* ops anyway
[18:14] <AlanBell> yeah, if I can figure out how to do that
[18:14] <AlanBell> I think I would like that command to listen just to people who have opped up
[18:15] <AlanBell> you can do "+1 awesome" now
[18:15] <pleia2> great
[18:17] <AlanBell> so it does general votes and quorum votes now
[18:18] <AlanBell> I will be working next on the output formatting I think
[18:20] <AlanBell> and a #reprocess command, so you can do "#reprocess http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/13/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt" and it will replay the logs to itself taking minutes of each meeting and giving the URL to the formatted output
[18:20] <pleia2> sweet
[18:21] <AlanBell> then Loco Team Portal integration (aka Loco Directory)
[21:45] <elky> AlanBell, that's great, much less confusing now :)
[22:45] <AlanBell> #startmeeting
[22:45] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Aug 29 22:45:14 2011 UTC.  The chair is AlanBell. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
[22:45] <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired
[22:45] <AlanBell> elky: want to try to #endmeeting, then op up and #endmeeting
[22:51] <m4v> #endmeeting
[22:51] <AlanBell> one is running
[22:51] <AlanBell> now with ops
[22:51] <AlanBell> #startmeeting
[22:51] <meetingology> AlanBell: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.
[22:52] <m4v> #endmeeting
[22:52] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Aug 29 22:52:37 2011 UTC.
[22:52] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-29-22.45.moin.txt
[22:52] <AlanBell> \o/
[22:52] <m4v> BWAHJAHAHA.,,, oh
[22:53] <AlanBell> :)
[22:53] <elky> yay
[22:54] <elky> AlanBell, sorry, at work
[22:54] <AlanBell> thats fine
[22:54] <AlanBell> I am off to bed now, but didn't want to leave it deployed but untested :)
[22:54] <pleia2> thanks AlanBell :)
[22:55] <AlanBell> the #votesrequired command got deployed too


[01:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: elementary-xfce (disco-proposed/universe) [0.13.1-1 => 0.13.1-1ubuntu1] (ubuntustudio, xubuntu)
[05:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: flatpak (disco-proposed/universe) [1.2.3-1 => 1.2.4-1] (ubuntugnome) (sync)
[05:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted flatpak [sync] (disco-proposed) [1.2.4-1]
[05:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: shibboleth-sp (disco-proposed/universe) [3.0.3+dfsg1-1 => 3.0.4+dfsg1-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[05:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted shibboleth-sp [sync] (disco-proposed) [3.0.4+dfsg1-1]
[05:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kylin-greeter (disco-proposed/universe) [18.04.2 => 19.04.1] (no packageset)
[05:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kylin-greeter [source] (disco-proposed) [19.04.1]
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntukylin-wallpapers (disco-proposed/universe) [18.10.1 => 19.04.0] (ubuntukylin)
[17:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntustudio-icon-theme (disco-proposed/universe) [0.19 => 0.20] (ubuntustudio)
[17:18] <Eickmeyer> ^ Just to facilitate a dark theme of our icons.
[20:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: perl (disco-proposed/main) [5.28.1-5 => 5.28.1-6] (core) (sync)
[20:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted perl [sync] (disco-proposed) [5.28.1-6]
[20:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntukylin-wallpapers [source] (disco-proposed) [19.04.0]
[20:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntustudio-icon-theme [source] (disco-proposed) [0.20]
[20:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntustudio-look [source] (disco-proposed) [0.59]
[20:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-manager [source] (disco-proposed) [1:19.04.4]
[20:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted elementary-xfce [source] (disco-proposed) [0.13.1-1ubuntu1]
[20:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted materia-gtk-theme [source] (disco-proposed) [20190201-1ubuntu1]
[20:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libapache2-mod-auth-mellon [source] (disco-proposed) [0.14.2-1ubuntu1]
[20:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ubuntukylin-wallpapers [amd64] (disco-proposed/universe) [19.04.0] (ubuntukylin)


[00:53] <slangasek> bdmurray: merged
[00:54] <slangasek> (whee, wind)
[10:25] <rbasak> ^^ can someone reject please? It was meant for a PPA :-/
[10:36]  * didrocks flushes
[10:37] <didrocks> rbasak: done ^
[10:41] <rbasak> Thanks!
[14:39] <rbasak> slangasek: please could you take a look at bug 1396210 with your SRU team hat on?
[14:39] <ubot2> bug 1396210 in mysql-5.6 (Ubuntu) "Backporting the mysql_no_login plugin to 5.6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1396210
[18:11] <bdmurray> slangasek: can you address till's comment in bug 1386241 regarding removing a package from -proposed?
[18:11] <ubot2> bug 1386241 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu Trusty) "Add the full IPP Everywhere support from Utopic to Trusty" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1386241


[00:26] <Xu> Upgrading to 16.10 will take out a wired connection.  If your HD is formatted with EXT4 and if your computer cannot boot from a USB and is not capable of connecting with wifi, you will not be able to revert to 16.04.  I have not yet been able to boot and run from a DVD.  The mimi.iso cannot see an EXT4 HD, it uses DR-DOS and apparently cannot detect any device that is not DOS or NTFS.
[09:47] <_xephlos> hey friends
[09:47] <_xephlos> how do I upgrade my xfce to 4.12.1 and above
[09:48] <_xephlos> 4.12.0 has a bug with the whisker menu where it turns black (detailed here: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10656)
[09:48] <_xephlos> and it's driving me nuts
[09:58] <xubuntu34i> Hello
[10:09] <xephlos> i managed to upgrade the panel to 4.12.1 and fixed the issue
[20:14] <mark76> !bots
[21:43] <m3n3chm0> any clue ?
[21:43] <knome> about what?
[21:43] <m3n3chm0> https://nopaste.me/view/619468a8
[21:44] <m3n3chm0> this is the issue
[21:44] <m3n3chm0> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:44] <m3n3chm0>  libgles1-mesa : Depends: libglapi-mesa (= 17.0.0~git20170206+17.0.07571cd8-0ubuntu0ricotz~yakkety) but 17.0.1+git20170319+17.0.07adc57f-0ubuntu0ricotz~yakkety is to be installed
[21:44] <knome> that isn't from the regular repository, i guess
[21:45] <m3n3chm0> it's from ppa yes
[21:46] <knome> then please ask the PPA maintainer


[11:20] <CaptainMorgan> anyone know the commands for gnomebaker or other recording/writing software?
[11:21] <Mantice> its just to much hussle for nothing
[11:21] <_jason> Mantice: what error do you get now?
[11:21] <linuxboyfriend> geneo93: ok, thanks a lot!
[11:21] <Mantice> Ill stick with the defult packages
[11:21] <joanverde> dsas: I give up for now, thx for all help, I learned a lot!
[11:21] <Yokalosh> where is jdk supposed to be installed to?
[11:21] <_jason> Mantice: relax, this is easy.    What error did you get?
[11:22] <bad_iNFO> ok i have a couple of quick questions
[11:22] <we2by> REALbasic for Linux Standard Edition is FREE.
[11:22] <we2by> :)
[11:22] <oatis> What are some good WYSIWYG HTML editors available for Ubuntu? I'm looking for something with a UI similiar to Dreamweaver.
[11:22] <Cooner750> Can anyone here tell me how to fix a few things. In Synaptic i accidently selected the "Complete Removal" option on a package my mistake. I meant to click "Remove". Now when i go to start Synaptic i get "gksudo: No such file or directory", and also the login manager is gone
[11:22] <Tenem> oatis, nvu?
[11:23] <Cooner750> i have to login at the black screen and run startx
[11:23] <linuxboyfriend> oatis: NVU
[11:23] <bad_iNFO> this is my question
[11:23] <pianoboy3333> Cooner750: 1st try fixing your prob by going to a terminal and type synaptic
[11:23] <oatis> Tenem, yeah? I'll install it and see what its like, thanks
[11:23] <geneo93> Cooner750:  apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:23] <oatis> LinuxBoy, Cool thanks
[11:23] <GTX> Package gnome-vfs-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. What package do I need to fix this?
[11:23] <hobbs> !universe
[11:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:23] <bad_iNFO> how do you make it so window's when they pop up come up in your viewable desktop area?
[11:24] <hobbs> !repositories
[11:24] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:24] <Tenem> oatis, don't expect a dreamweaver killer, but it may help
[11:24] <Psykus> trying to install bittorrent from the .deb package at bittorrent.com, getting these errors when i try to install it, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9269
[11:24] <dsas> joanverde:  sorry, I'm not sure what's going wrong, maybe someone else does?
[11:24] <_jason> Mantice: giving up?
[11:25] <Cooner750> I get a error "The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:25] <Cooner750>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: gdm but it is not going to be installed
[11:25] <Cooner750>                   Depends: gnome-netstatus-applet but it is not going to be inst alled
[11:25] <Cooner750>                   Depends: gnome-system-monitor but it is not going to be instal led
[11:25] <Cooner750>                   Depends: gnome-volume-manager but it is not going to be instal led
[11:25] <Cooner750>                   Depends: hwdb-client but it is not going to be installed
[11:25] <Cooner750>                   Depends: lsb but it is not going to be installed
[11:25] <oatis> Tenem, Look good enough, thanks
[11:25] <Cooner750>                   Depends: openoffice.org but it is not going to be installed
[11:25] <Cooner750>                   Depends: openoffice.org-gtk-gnome but it is not going to be in stalled
[11:25] <Cooner750>                   Depends: ubuntu-quickguide but it is not going to be installed
[11:25] <Mantice> Hold on
[11:25] <Cooner750>                   Depends: x-window-system-core but it is not going to be instal led
[11:25] <_jason> Cooner750: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[11:25] <Cooner750> E: Broken packages
[11:25] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: please use pastebin if you need to paste
[11:25] <Cooner750> "
[11:25] <dsas> !tell cooner750 about pastebin
[11:25] <pianoboy3333> please...
[11:25] <Mantice> Its just redownloading the repostirys
[11:25] <geneo93> Cooner750:  ok try sudo apt-get -f install
[11:26] <iBalo> Psykus, you need to remove the 'old' bittorrent (3.x)  packs first
[11:26] <Psykus> ah ok, thanks
[11:26] <pianoboy3333> !mingw32
[11:26] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, pianoboy3333
[11:26] <Cooner750> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9270
[11:26] <geneo93> Cooner750:  scrool up
[11:27] <gnomefreak> pianoboy3333: what are you looking for?  w32 indicates its a windows app or something like w32codecs
[11:28] <Mantice> I just removed every repositry and added again and ticked all the boxes I could
[11:28] <Cooner750> i still get the same error
[11:28] <djp> does anyone know if gnome-bittorrent keeps a log anywhere?
[11:28] <pianoboy3333> gnomefreak: I was told that the package mingw32 was a cross compiler for C/C++ as it says in synaptic, but I don't know how to call/use it
[11:28] <_jason> Mantice: and still not working?
[11:28] <Psykus> hrm, how do I remove the old entry for bittorrent in the gnome menu?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: you can try to open synaptic and click i think its edit fix broken packages
[11:28] <Mantice> Its still going
[11:28] <Frebrd> anyone know how to make a sound card use /dev/dsp
[11:28] <_jason> Mantice: oh ok
[11:28] <Drac|Laptop> Hiya Hiya.
[11:28] <sovin> question: I'm attempting to install a wireless security auditing tool called aircrack but am recieving errors upon issuing the _make_ command
[11:29] <geneo93> Mantice:  what mirrors are u using
[11:29] <oneseventeen> I just upgraded to Firefox 1.5, and am trying to figure out windows media streaming.
[11:29] <Mantice> Offical ones
[11:29] <Fredde> Is there any good ftp clients?
[11:29] <oneseventeen> I installed win32codecs, but none of my players can play windows media streams.
[11:29] <oneseventeen> Any tips?
[11:29] <bad_iNFO> Fredde lots
[11:29] <geneo93> Mantice:  what country
[11:29] <sovin> question_continued: sovin@sov-m-bb:~/Desktop/aircrack-2.41$ make
[11:29] <sovin> gcc -g -W -Wall -O2 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_MAJ=2 -D_MIN=41 linux/aircrack.c linux/crypto.c linux/sha1-mmx.S -o aircrack -lpthread
[11:29] <sovin> make: gcc: Command not found
[11:29] <sovin> make: *** [aircrack]  Error 127
[11:29] <sovin>
[11:29] <bad_iNFO> Pure FTP
[11:29] <sovin> ai, sorry
[11:29] <sovin> bit long
[11:29] <bad_iNFO> uhm
[11:29] <_jason> sovin: 'sudo aptitude install build-essential'
[11:29] <bad_iNFO> YO listen up
[11:29] <xcel-> any one who could hook me up with a shell? :-)
[11:29] <sovin> _jason: thank you.
[11:29] <_jason> sovin: and in the future please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[11:29] <biovore> sovin: apt-get install build-essential
[11:29] <Drac|Laptop> Dapper doesn't see my floppy drive... There is no /dev/fd0! What do I do?!
[11:29] <bad_iNFO> how do i make windows pop up in viewable desktop space?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> pianoboy3333: that im not sure about but you will more than likey have to make the ide use it like you would with the export command
[11:30] <sovin> i shall.
[11:30] <Mantice> Ok It works
[11:30] <Mantice> Its downloading now
[11:30] <Mantice> ^_^
[11:30] <_jason> Mantice: mplayer is the best imo so it was worth it I hope :)
[11:30] <pianoboy3333> gnomefreak: but in the terminal, mingw32 doesn't do anything
[11:30] <Mantice> I just selected all those tick boxes as I could
[11:30] <bad_iNFO> ubuntu rocks
[11:30] <bad_iNFO> mad easy to use
[11:30] <geneo93> Mantice:  i live in usa but use uk mirrors
[11:31] <bad_iNFO> i tried all sorts of diffrent distro's
[11:31] <Mantice> Yeah It plays alot of files
[11:31] <gnomefreak> pianoboy3333: oipen the folder using nautius and look for a readme file it should tell you how to set it up
[11:31] <bad_iNFO> and ubuntu was the only one that everything worked on
[11:31] <Psykus> hrm, under gnome, i've edited the gnome menu with the "applications menu editor", but the changes aren't showing up
[11:31] <pianoboy3333> ok
[11:31] <Mantice> Any good linux games out there?
[11:31] <bad_iNFO> now getting it customized is the fun
[11:31] <geneo93> Mantice:  what kind
[11:32] <Drac|Laptop> This is really important! I need a floppy drive for school!
[11:32] <Mantice> RPG shooting
[11:32] <Mantice> Really cool games
[11:32] <dyrne> Mantice: enemy territory, cube, and such for fps
[11:32] <Cooner750> Synaptic says the same error, Fix Broken Packages did nothing
[11:32] <Fredde> bad_iNFO: other than pure ftp
[11:32] <_jason> Drac|Laptop: this is 2006
[11:32] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: try running sudo apt-get -f install
[11:32] <geneo93> war game like empires freecraft is good
[11:32] <Drac|Laptop> Mantice, If you can spare $15, Cedega plays 99% of Windows games... often better than Windows itself does.
[11:32] <Drac|Laptop> _jason, my laptop doesn't have a CD burner.
[11:33] <Mantice> Ooh
[11:33] <geneo93> Mantice:  5 bucks a month
[11:33] <Mantice> ?
[11:33] <geneo93> for cedega
[11:33] <Drac|Laptop> Mantice, be warned... the newer the game, the more tweaking is required, but once you get it working right, it's great. :D
[11:33] <Mantice> Cedega I saw that before
[11:33] <Cooner750> grr.. same error
[11:33] <iBalo> Mantice, there's _bash_, a great text adventure, _python_  i.e. a real time strategy game and maybe _gcc_ a conquer them all game ;-)
[11:34] <gnomefreak> !cedega
[11:34] <Mantice> :P
[11:34] <Drac|Laptop> Mantice, don't worry. Most people who speak negativelyof Cedega used a much older version. :P
[11:34] <_jason> iBalo: haha
[11:34] <geneo93> Cooner750:  did you do the apt-get -f install
[11:34] <Mantice> Maybe becasue its not really open source / free
[11:34] <disastorm> hey
[11:34] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: sudo apt-get -f install should list things it will add remove or 0
[11:34] <Mantice> Does any one have cedega?
[11:35] <neiras> woo, xchat-gnome is nice
[11:35] <xcc> how i can change picture on gnome loading?
[11:35] <Drac|Laptop> Mantice, they have to recover funds for the games they bought to test somehow. :P
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: no package after install
[11:35] <Mantice> Yeah :)
[11:35] <disastorm> i got a new power supply for my pc and it was working fine and now it seems to be restarting by itself alot
[11:35] <disastorm> does anyone know whats wrong
[11:35] <geneo93> Mantice:  if they do prolly playing games
[11:35] <dyrne> Mantice: you can download the cvs free and legally i think there is probably a cedega deb around somewhere
[11:35] <Drac|Laptop> Mantice, the actual source is freely distributed through CVS, but the binary release works a lot better.
[11:35] <Cooner750> 0
[11:35] <Mantice> Would cedega lag more than using windows?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: it told you 0 upgraded 0 installed 0 removed 0 fixed?
[11:36] <xcc> where find cedega in deb?
[11:36] <dyrne> Mantice: linux=better memory management so all things being equal no
[11:36] <Drac|Laptop> Mantice, it really depends on your hardware, but generally yes, to an extent. Like I said, it won't crash the game like Windows will.
[11:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell xcc about cedega
[11:36] <Cooner750> yes
[11:36] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[11:37] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: are you on dapper or breezy?
[11:37] <geneo93> gnomefreak:  maybe he dont have all the repositories
[11:37] <Cooner750> well, the latest version, 5.10?
[11:37] <Psykus> what other bittorrent clients are there for linux?
[11:37] <xcel-> is there anyone who could gimme an shell account? So i could irc thru putty
[11:37] <Mantice> Azorus is good one
[11:37] <gnomefreak> geneo93: for ubuntu-desktop they should all be in main
[11:37] <Psykus> the official one doesn't have the option to exclude files to download from a torrent
[11:37] <Mantice> So paypal buy?
[11:38] <dyrne> xcel-: http://www.ductape.net/~mitja/freeunix.shtml
[11:38] <geneo93> gnomefreak:  what if he used cd apt-cdrom
[11:38] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[11:38] <Psykus> anything other than azeurus?
[11:38] <xcel-> dyrne, thx but i've already checked that site
[11:38] <C-O-L-T> Psykus: hello
[11:38] <gnomefreak> geneo93: i know i thought about that
[11:38] <geneo93> it could restore what he lost
[11:38] <gnomefreak> its so automatic for me i never think about it :(
[11:39] <Psykus> hi
[11:39] <disastorm> i got a new power supply for my pc and it was working fine and now it seems to be restarting by itself alot
[11:39] <disastorm> does anyone know whats wrong
[11:39] <gnomefreak> disastorm: does it do it in windows too?
[11:40] <disastorm> i only have windows on it
[11:40] <NightWalker> _jason, checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[11:40] <medina> hola
[11:40] <gnomefreak> disastorm: than this channel cant help you try #windows
[11:40] <geneo93> disastorm:  maybe bad caps or overloaded system
[11:40] <xcel-> Hey!
[11:40] <disastorm> whats an overloaded system or bad caps
[11:40] <dyrne> disastorm: recently add another hd? or something?
[11:40] <disastorm> no i added a new power supply
[11:41] <xcel-> anyone who ould hook me up with a ssh-acc? I just wanna be able to irc thru putty
[11:41] <ailean> Is there any similar project to Fedora's OpenGL Composite Desktop on Ubuntu? See http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/02/22/1638228.shtml
[11:41] <disastorm> the new power supply is more volts than my old one
[11:41] <Mantice> Man all my screen savers lag :(
[11:41] <dyrne> disastorm: might be bad. buy a tester (theyre cheap) or just use a multimeter
[11:42] <geneo93> disastorm:  it could be short on motherboard also
[11:42] <Cooner750> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9272
[11:42] <Chousuke> meh
[11:42] <Chousuke> why are they doing their own versions of the same thing.
[11:42] <Chousuke> unity is power.
[11:42] <xcc> gnomefreak, thanx
[11:42] <Chousuke> do one thing and do it well, this time :P
[11:42] <gnomefreak> yw xcc
[11:42] <disastorm> does a higher volt power supply make the temperature higher?
[11:43] <rappo> anyone have a RocketRAID 1820A?
[11:43] <ailean> u talkin to me Chousuke?
[11:43] <GlassCasket> Disastorm, it depends.
[11:43] <Tenem> disasm,  short answer: yes
[11:43] <neiras> rappo - I do but it's blown
[11:43] <NightWalker> What command can i install c++ ?
[11:43] <criminal> hey people
[11:43] <rappo> neiras :(
[11:43] <Mantice> What is Alchoal 120% = linux alternative
[11:43] <ailean> lo criminal
[11:43] <biovore> criminal: apt-get install build-ensentials
[11:43] <rappo> neiras I have one, but I'm thinking of using a software raid for that very reason
[11:43] <biovore> criminal: apt-get install build-ensential
[11:43] <iBalo> disastorm, do more electrons causing friction on atoms cause more lost energy?
[11:43] <thegladiator> mplayer command line users , when you close the mplayer window by clicking on the X with the mouse after watching the movie , why is it that the mplayer doesnt close in the systems monitor ?
[11:44] <criminal> is there a way to go to a directory if I don't know the exact location ?
[11:44] <disastorm> so if my computer is overheating would that explain why it keeps restarting
[11:44] <rappo> neiras how do I get ubuntu to recognize the card? I downloaded the driver but I'm at a loss
[11:44] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: i didnt see anything wrong with the sources.list other than its hoary list but should still have ubuntu-desktop can i suggest upgrading to breezy 5.10
[11:44] <ailean> criminal, no
[11:44] <Mantice> My computer runs coolest in ubuntu
[11:44] <Tenem> disastorm, what's the CPU temp?
[11:44] <disastorm> i dunno
[11:44] <Mantice> the cpu is 20 degrees
[11:44] <GlassCasket> Disastorm, your CPU is probably running too hot.
[11:44] <ailean> criminal, but you can find out the exact location
[11:44] <neiras> rappo - Can't help you there, the system I used it on was a BSD box
[11:44] <Mantice> in windos its 50
[11:44] <NightWalker> plzz help
[11:44] <biovore> thegladiator: no clue. closes here
[11:44] <criminal> ailean: how would I do that ?
[11:44] <thegladiator> each time I click on a movie and close it , it is added as an instance to the system monitor and it says smplaye 28.0 MB sleeping"
[11:44] <rappo> neiras ah, ok thanks anyway
[11:44] <disastorm> one of the time sit restarted i was updating windows so now theres a currupt file and i cant start it
[11:44] <thegladiator> biovore, do you use from command line ?
[11:44] <disastorm> but when i run the setup cd i get a bsod in the middle of repairing it
[11:44] <ailean> criminal, what are you looking for?
[11:44] <NightWalker> What command can i install c++ ???
[11:45] <thegladiator> biovore, and are you on dapper ?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> NightWalker: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:45] <Cooner750> i have the latest version of Ubuntu, since i installed it 3 days ago. However i replaced the contents of the sources.list from ubuntuguide.org which is apparently outdated as i realized later
[11:45] <Tenem> disastorm, I bet for bad memory
[11:45] <criminal> it is a program I installed, mudmagic, which I want to have a look at the logs, but I am not sure where it is stored :p
[11:45] <wastrel> thegladiator:  did you start it backgrounded (with &)?
[11:45] <ailean> criminal, KDE or Gnome?
[11:45] <thegladiator> criminal, try typing mudmagiv in the command line ?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: Cooner750 you have hoary repos that is not 5.10 that is 5.04
[11:45] <GlassCasket> What's the main difference between the CD and DVD version of Ubuntu?
[11:46] <ailean> thegladiator, he wants to do more than run it
[11:46] <NightWalker> configure: error: "install mysql-devel or somewhere it's called mysql-dev"
[11:46] <criminal> nm, found it under /usr/share
[11:46] <ailean> criminal, both gnome and kde have find utils
[11:46] <thegladiator> wastrel, normally I type mplayerfoo.avi in the terminal or I double click from nautilus
[11:46] <geneo93> gnomefreak:  cdrom is best then
[11:46] <criminal> well I don't want the util, but a log file created by the util
[11:46] <Cooner750> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories  that's what i replaced the origional content of sources.list with and then i realized it was still for 5.04
[11:46] <thegladiator> wastrel, double is configured to open with mplayer non gui as well
[11:46] <xcc> 2 pt font in many applications scared me
[11:47] <NightWalker> gnomefreak, what command can i install mysql devel ?
[11:47] <thegladiator> I didnt understand the backgrounded part , I close the mplayer windows by clickin on X
[11:47] <mwe> !ubuntuguide
[11:47] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:47] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: did you click save than run sudo apt-get update
[11:47] <Jiveo> i cant make this dapper iso bootable for the life of me
[11:47] <ailean> am i alone in thinking totem is the best movie player . . . ? :)
[11:47] <cafuego> ailean: yes
[11:47] <ailean> lol
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell NightWalker about mysql
[11:47] <geneo93> Jiveo:  bad burn then
[11:47] <Tenem> ailean, no, but the other one is offline
[11:47] <ailean> cafuego, mplayer lags for me, and can be jumpy sometimes
[11:47] <Jiveo> i dont know what im doing
[11:47] <ailean> totem is offline?
[11:47] <cafuego> ailean: That's why one uses vlc
[11:48] <Cooner750> yes. What i was looking for was the original copy of sources.list that came with 5.10
[11:48] <ailean> ohhh cafuego explain more :)
[11:48] <thegladiator> mplayer is just simple fast and effective
[11:48] <gnomefreak> Jiveo: burn it as a cd image
[11:48] <Tenem> ailean, nevermin
[11:48] <thegladiator> the only problem I have is this one
[11:48] <cafuego> ailean: sudo apt-get install vlc
[11:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Cooner750 about upgrade
[11:48] <thegladiator> I sometimjes get an array of mplayer in the system monitor
[11:48] <cafuego> ailean: it plays video, but also streams it to a remote vlc if wanted
[11:48] <IdleOne> !mplayer
[11:48] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:48] <gnomefreak> Cooner750: you have the instructions in your pm
[11:48] <thegladiator> I have no clue how to fix this , I was thinking this is a bug
[11:48] <iBalo> ailean, totem _is_ _not_ a videoplayer :-) just a frontend to gstreamer or xine....
[11:48] <navarone> Jiveo make sure you burn the iso as an image not as data...if you burn as data you simply copy the iso to the disc and will not be able to boot...also make sure the bios is set to boot from cd-rom or dvd-rom device
[11:48] <NightWalker> gnomefreak, E: Package mysql-server has no installation candidate
[11:48] <wastrel> thegladiator:  i'm guessing the windowmanager has killed the window but hasn't told the mplayer process to die.
[11:49] <ailean> iBalo, ok, but it works better than mplayer
[11:49] <Jiveo> let me try that burn as image thing
[11:49] <ailean> why is vlc so good then guys?
[11:49] <disastorm> if i change my power supply from 430V to 500V do i need to change anything in the bios?
[11:49] <iBalo> ailean, that's xine(lib)
[11:49] <GlassCasket> Disastorm, it should be fine.
[11:49] <disastorm> so the most likely problem is overheating?
[11:49] <thegladiator> wastrel, perhaps thats true , but 1) why is it happening with me I am pretty sure I haven't botched or something ? 2) how can I resolve this ?
[11:49] <GlassCasket> Yes
[11:50] <disastorm> how do i fix that
[11:50] <Tenem> disastorm, corrupted memory is the most likely
[11:50] <GlassCasket> Check in your BIOS, and there's an option saying at what tempature you want your PC to shut down.
[11:50] <cafuego> disastorm: If your PSU is overheating, replace it with a decent brand PSU.
[11:50] <navarone> disastorm, google tells me that bad caps are bad capacitors...on motherboard. When did you get error about the bad caps?
[11:50] <Tenem> disastorm, and you fix it by buying new RAM
[11:50] <ailean> getting vlc now . . .
[11:50] <disastorm> no i didnt get error about bad caps some guy said that might be the problem
[11:50] <B_166-ER-X> when i Try to 'sync' my ipod (shuffle)  with GTKPOD 0.99.2 ,  it keeps telling me this error : Failed to save /media/ipod/iPod_Control/Artwork/ArtworkDB  , can someone help ? or point me in a direction
[11:51] <disastorm> anyway i just got a new psu thats why i dont think its a motherboard or ram problem
[11:51] <iBalo> disastorm, this isnt just the channel to burn your house down, why not just joining #windows or #suicide
[11:51] <rappo> how do I install a driver that I download? It's in a zip from the manufactorer and the zip just has a binary
[11:51] <wastrel> thegladiator:  it happens with me too - not sure if it's a gnome/metacity problem or an mplayer problem or what.   i usually use keyboard commands (q to quit)
[11:51] <cafuego> ailean: Note the subtle difference between "vlc is good" and "i think vlc is good".
[11:51] <B_166-ER-X> Seveas,  its with 'your' .deb package Gtkpod, that i have this error.   ( when i Try to 'sync' my ipod (shuffle)  with GTKPOD 0.99.2 ,  it keeps telling me this error : Failed to save /media/ipod/iPod_Control/Artwork/ArtworkDB  )
[11:51] <LeoToothpick> hi can anybody help with a couple of questions
[11:51] <GlassCasket> Disastorm, do you have Windows too?
[11:51] <NightWalker> gnomefreak,
[11:51] <geneo93> call 911 if you have fire
[11:51] <georgy> rappo : chmod a+x binary file, that exe it
[11:51] <disastorm> yea im running it on windows
[11:51] <thegladiator> wastrel, thank you and that helps in your case ? soI feel it is a bug , are you on dapper ?
[11:51] <Fromage> Hi
[11:52] <GlassCasket> Download SpeedFan
[11:52] <Mantice> Speedfan is windows only ?
[11:52] <Fromage> I've just installed Ubuntu in my computer, by the default fonts used by Firefox to show Arabic and Persian texts are pretty bad
[11:52] <disastorm> if i can start windows i will
[11:52] <navarone> disastorm, new psu may have damaged motherboard...plus it is probably a better idea to havea  professional deal with psu's...can be dangerous if you do not know what you are doing
[11:52] <Fromage> How can I change them ?
[11:52] <thegladiator> wastrel, how can I ensure this is not there in dapper atleast ?
[11:52] <LeoToothpick> HeLLLOOOOO! Help pleaz
[11:52] <NightWalker> somone here to help i am install mysql and this came : E: Package mysql-server has no installation candidate
[11:52] <thegladiator> sinc I dont think it needs to be rectified in breezy since we are gonna upgrade anyway ...so how can I ensure this is rectified in dapper?
[11:52] <Mantice> I highly recomend any one to get a quality psu
[11:52] <disastorm> glasscasket is it possible new psu can damage motherboard
[11:52] <Mantice> If the new psu was a buget 20 $$ yes
[11:53] <Mantice> !dapper
[11:53] <Fromage> I've just installed Ubuntu in my computer, by the default fonts used by Firefox to show Arabic and Persian texts are pretty bad
[11:53] <geneo93> dual fans
[11:53] <disastorm> no its 100$ but with 50$ rebate
[11:53] <ailean> cafuego, it's not opening my files
[11:53] <Fromage> How can I change them ?
[11:53] <disastorm> psu
[11:53] <Cooner750> fixed it. Luckily I had created a backup of the original sources.list that came with the install (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9274)
[11:53] <GlassCasket> Yeah, if it's a cheap PSU
[11:53] <wastrel> thegladiator:  breezy.  when you use the mplayer q - quit command the mplayer process is closed, so you don't have that zombie hanging out.    dunno about bug reporting :]
[11:53] <rappo> georgy it cannot execute it
[11:53] <Mantice> Mplayer is finished :P
[11:53] <GlassCasket> Do you have a link of your new PSU?
[11:53] <Angel_Dex> is there any fun things like amor and xpenguin in the repos?
[11:53] <thegladiator> wastrel, I did a q and in the system monitor it says "stopped" still not killed I suppose ?
[11:53] <cafuego> Angel_Dex: Did you search the repos?
[11:53] <disastorm> its called antec smartpower2.0
[11:53] <Angel_Dex> cafuego under what catagory
[11:54] <cafuego> Angel_Dex: 'apt-cache search <string>'
[11:54] <georgy> rappo : cd where the binary are then ./binary file
[11:54] <navarone> disastorm, what about your motherboard?
[11:54] <wastrel> thegladiator:  when i do q the mplayer process disappears from the system monitor.... dunno why yours would be hanging around still
[11:54] <disastorm> my motherboard is gigabyte k8ns pro
[11:54] <Angel_Dex> cafuego PS i have amor and xpenguin im wondering if theres other stuff like that
[11:54] <rappo> georgy i did that after I chmod'd it
[11:54] <geneo93> disastorm:  how many watts
[11:54] <thegladiator> wastrel, :(
[11:54] <disastorm> 500w
[11:54] <xcc> how i can change picture on gnome loading?
[11:54] <disastorm> my old one was 430 w
 Do you have a link of your new PSU?
[11:54] <cafuego> Angel_Dex: Undoubtedly, try 'games' in Synaptic.
[11:54] <LeoToothpick> i don't know how to sep up PHP, mysql and apache downloaded package from Synaptic Pkg Mngr... please help
[11:55] <Angel_Dex> kk
[11:55] <geneo93> 500watt for 50 bucks sound cheap to me
[11:55] <disastorm> what do you mean a link?
[11:55] <thegladiator> wastrel, thanks at least u share 50% of problems , I am convinced its not a problem with this syetm :)
[11:55] <disastorm> no but its 100$ with 20$ instant rebate and 30$ mail in from comp usa
[11:55] <cafuego> geneo93: Nah, 's about right. Antecs are generally very good, too.
[11:55] <thegladiator> soI didnt botch up the system still :-)
[11:55] <idefix_> how do you mount a USB device in linux?
[11:55] <GlassCasket> What brand was it?
[11:55] <thegladiator> !usb
[11:55] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, thegladiator
[11:55] <georgy> rappo what file is it
[11:55] <thegladiator> idefix_, it mounts automatically nah ?
[11:55] <GlassCasket> I have the Antec TruePower 2.0 550W ;)
[11:56] <LeoToothpick> i don't know how to sep up PHP, mysql and apache downloaded package from Synaptic Pkg Mngr... please help :)
[11:56] <thegladiator> idefix_, my digi cam is auto mounted when I insert the USB
[11:56] <GlassCasket> Nice
[11:56] <geneo93> cafuego:  i have powmax for 5 years now
[11:56] <xcc> 2 pt font in many applications scared me
[11:56] <GTX> LeoToothpick, It's easy.
[11:56] <cafuego> the previous PSU did something VERY bad
[11:56] <La_PaRCa> LeoToothpick, they should be autonatically setup. What are you trying to do?
[11:56] <GTX> LeoToothpick, To install mysql type sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[11:56] <crouton> you let the magic smoke out?
[11:56] <GlassCasket> Disastorm, wat brand is your new PSU?
[11:56] <thegladiator> whats that glacious ? Antec truepower ?
[11:56] <disastorm> antec
[11:56] <disastorm> i just said
[11:56] <disastorm> its called antec smartpower2.0
[11:57] <GlassCasket> Oh ok, that shouldnt overheat
[11:57] <disastorm> 500w
[11:57] <cafuego> http://www.cafuego.net/melty_kahlua.png
[11:57] <Mantice> New_Face failed. Maybe the font path is wrong. Please supply the text font file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf).
[11:57] <ploom> anyone tried http://www.monochrom.at/suz-game ??
[11:57] <twitch101> how would i make a .avi file that is 699.9 MB fit on a 700MB disk without compressing so my dvd player will read it
[11:57] <cafuego> disastorm: Is there anything like that pic on your mobo? ;-)
[11:57] <disastorm> well i mean not the psu but would it make my computer be hotter than it was when i had the 430 psu
[11:57] <geneo93> disastorm:  then you have something else going bad
[11:57] <xcc> may b  anybody know how i can change picture on gnome loading?
[11:57] <thegladiator> twitch101, burn it ?
[11:57] <crouton> nice cafuego
[11:57] <ploom> it keeps telling me about missing libxml.so.1
[11:57] <B_166-ER-X> any1 familiar with Gtkpod/ipod support ?
[11:57] <cafuego> disastorm: not really. Any cnace you forgot to hook up the case or cpu fans?
[11:57] <twitch101> it says there isnt enough room
[11:58] <twitch101> its only .2 mb from 700
[11:58] <thegladiator> twitch101, use k3B maybe ?
[11:58] <ploom> any ideas - could it be among some ubuntu (debian) pkg??
[11:58] <twitch101> ok
[11:58] <crouton> xcc - the gnome splash screen?
[11:58] <twitch101> isnt gnomebaker the same thing
[11:58] <thegladiator> twitch101, with me , nautilus default burner accepts 702 Mb round about
[11:58] <disastorm> no the fans are all running
[11:58] <navarone> cafuego was that actually caused by kahlua...?<s>
[11:58] <cafuego> twitch101: The ISO filesystem has a 25MB overherad for the TOC, if you're burning as ISO that's not going to fit.
[11:58] <thegladiator> twitch101, what s/w are you using ? and what is the CD ?
[11:58] <xcc> crouton yep
[11:58] <cafuego> navarone: No, the box it was in was called kahlua.
[11:59] <twitch101> s/w? a dvd
[11:59] <thegladiator> cafuego, avi
[11:59] <cafuego> thegladiator: avi -> iso9660 fs
[11:59] <navarone> cafuego interesting name
[11:59] <crouton> xcc - System->Administration->Login Screen Setup
[11:59] <cafuego> thegladiator: So it wants 699+25Mb
[11:59] <twitch101> its not an iso its a .avi its just raw
[11:59] <thegladiator> I see
[11:59] <geneo93> disastorm:  have you checked the temps in bios
[11:59] <Chousuke> !xgl
[11:59] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #xgl-ubuntu and #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:59] <crouton> xcc: the art.gnome.org site has some replacement packages for gdm (gnome login manager)
[11:59] <Cooner750> Back up and running now
[11:59] <cafuego> navarone: All boxen I have are named after alcoholic or caffeinated beverages.
[11:59] <cafuego> alcohol for workstations,c affeine for servers
[12:00] <crouton> cafuego: absinthe?