[12:01] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, time for broadband ;) can your computer not handle multitasking?
[12:01] <mcphail> gpa: using 'sudo' allows you to break it on purpose ;)
[12:01] <odin> Nativow: where do you want to copy /usr/include to? the files in /usr/include probably will not work in another location
[12:01] <abo> crimsun, note: during my searching, I came across this page and tried the steps inside, didn't work obviously, but thought it's worth telling you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToConfigureSoundBlasterAudigySEinBreezy
[12:01] <gpa> say I wanted to create a folder in file system
[12:01] <crimsun> abo: amixer set 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack' on
[12:01] <gpa> how would I do that, its not like windows where you can go into a folder and make new folders
[12:01] <Nativow> odin: im using cp -R /home/..../ /usr/include
[12:01] <Neo_Angelo> i use wireless and was wondering how to set it up with linux when i only have an .exe file to install it off...
[12:02] <Nativow> odin: im copying to /usr/include
[12:02] <rosabonita> crimsub>is there a driver for the quickcam pro4000?
[12:02] <mcphail> gpa: you can make "folders" in your home directory
[12:02] <eobanb_> Neo_Angelo, you are trying to use your wireless card?
[12:02] <tez> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30487/
[12:02] <crimsun> rosabonita: is it a usb device?
[12:02] <rosabonita> ya
[12:02] <Neo_Angelo> eobanb - Yeah i runs the disc and it says it can't be run
[12:02] <odin> Nativow: you need a wildcard....cp -R /home/Nativow/temp/* /usr/include
[12:02] <crimsun> rosabonita: pastebin the output from ``lsusb -v''
[12:02] <gpa> how
[12:02] <eobanb_> Neo_Angelo, what kind of card
[12:02] <Takmadeus> livingadaylight: my PC supports multitasking (AFAIK) but my internet connection does not.. it is so lame that any kind of new connection outside makes everything mess up
[12:02] <Nativow> odin, let me try
[12:03] <digilink> anyone have beryl up and running on dapper? I'm having a time :(
[12:03] <Neo_Angelo> eobanb, 802.11g wireless LAN cardbus PC card/PCI card
[12:03] <odin> Nativow: be careful or you might end up with a bunch of stuff in /usr/include
[12:03] <mcphail> gpa: just right-click and "create folder"
[12:03] <eobanb_> digilink, i have it running
[12:03] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, i see, no worries
[12:03] <abo> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30488/ the sound is mono, how can I get it in stereo
[12:03] <digilink> eobanb: can you help me?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> digilink: ask in #ubuntu-xgl please
[12:03] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: something funny happened
[12:03] <rosabonita> crimsun<can't get hub descriptor: Operation not permitted
[12:03] <rosabonita> cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)
[12:03] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: what?
[12:03] <eobanb_> Neo_Angelo, okayy...what brand? what chipset? is it a cardbus card or a PCI card?
[12:03] <gpa> wont let me
[12:03] <crimsun> rosabonita: don't paste here.
[12:04] <odin> Nativow: I would suggest testing first in a temp directory to make sure you know exactly how it will work
[12:04] <rosabonita> oh sorry
[12:04] <gpa> is file systems basically C: in windows
[12:04] <crimsun> rosabonita: those messages are harmless.
[12:04] <eobanb_> digilink, i'd be happy to help you in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:04] <mcphail> gpa: you are in your home directory?
[12:04] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: i restarted x and it worked
[12:04] <digilink> ty :)
[12:04] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: but I got this message that I needed to restart my machine
[12:04] <gpa> I am in my computer
[12:04] <Jural> anyone in here fimilar with gdesklets that can give me a hand??
[12:04] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: that happens when you have things set up right
[12:04] <rosabonita> crimsun<uh, what am i supposed to do?
[12:04] <gpa> then I click file system
[12:04] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: so I did, and now I get an error
[12:04] <Neo_Angelo> eobanb_ , its a card that goes in the PC i think its make is ADDON
[12:04] <mcphail> gpa: oh, you are wanting to write to a windows partition?
[12:04] <crimsun> rosabonita: paste _all_ the output onto http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:04] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: what error what was the message
[12:04] <eobanb_> Neo_Angelo, 'in the PC'?
[12:04] <Gothi[c] > I just updated, and direct rendering broke, the log reveals (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable. after looking aruond on the net a bit i found a workaround by disabling the composite extension, which appearantly causes the problem, because now Direct rendering works. Is there any way i can keep Composite enabled and do a 'clean' fix on this issue without disabling features? (ATI X550 card)
[12:04] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: hold, i need to switch virtual terminals
[12:04] <gpa> no im wondering if filesystem isthe same thing as C: is in windows
[12:04] <eobanb_> Neo_Angelo, do you understand the difference between cardbus and PCI?
[12:05] <Neo_Angelo> eobanb_ , yes its fitted into one of the slots available at the back
[12:05] <tez> TGPO - is that right??
[12:05] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: FATAL: error running install command for nvidia
[12:05] <mcphail> gpa: there are similarities, but the overall concept is different
[12:05] <`Jessica> it's like the module isn't there!
[12:05] <eobanb_> Neo_Angelo, and if you open the Network manager, what interfaces show up>
[12:05] <`Jessica> what should I do?
[12:05] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: installing.... you can tell me how to use usenet :p
[12:05] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: what did you do after X started?
[12:05] <Neo_Angelo> eobanb_ , none
[12:05] <gpa> ooh, I see the home folder now
[12:05] <crimsun> abo: you're on your own for that. Adjust the 3D Control* elements using a mixer.
[12:05] <`Jessica>  gnomefreak: after X started with nvidia, I got a message saying I needed to restart my computer. so I did
[12:05] <gpa> is that where I can install things like .bin if I have to
[12:06] <Neo_Angelo> eobanb_, i need to install the drivers and whatnot to linux but i only have an .exe setup on the disc
[12:06] <abo> crimsun, ok :) thx
[12:06] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: what was the message word for word
[12:06] <rosabonita> crimsun<um, im a noob, how do i do that?
[12:06] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: what message?
[12:06] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: the error message?
[12:06] <crimsun> rosabonita: open a terminal and type the command I gave you
[12:06] <mcphail> gpa: it depends. A .bin file can be _anything_
[12:06] <eobanb_> Neo_Angelo, can you open a terminal and type 'ifconfig'
[12:06] <rosabonita> crim<got that
[12:06] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: the restart message. it wont ask you to restart for no reason
[12:06] <eobanb_> Neo_Angelo, and pastebin the output
[12:06] <gpa> for example
[12:06] <gpa> pychess-0.4.1.tar.gz
[12:07] <Neo_Angelo> ok i'll try, though i can't get on this chat from linux as i can't get anything without a connection
[12:07] <gpa> how would I install that
[12:07] <Nativow> odin: same thing is happening...  =/
[12:07] <Neo_Angelo> i'm a complete n00b to it ^_^
[12:07] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: it was a generic message. 'you need to restart your machine for updates to be installed. if you do not, security updates won't be effective, etc etc etc.
[12:07] <rosabonita> crim<how do i do that paste thing you wanted?
[12:07] <odin> Nativow: what is the error message?
[12:07] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, you ready?
[12:07] <Neo_Angelo> i'll go try tahanks for the advice eobanb_
[12:07] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: Why not let's try uninstalling and reinstalling nvidia-glx?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: make sure nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules are installed for your running kernel
[12:08] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: are you on the generic kernel atm?
[12:08] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: yes
[12:08] <odin> Nativow: you also need to run the cp command as root.....'sudo cp .....'
[12:08] <mcphail> gpa: i'm not familiar with that package, but would suspect you could "install" it locally. You are aware that .tar.gz files are similar to .zip files on windows?
[12:08] <mabus> How do I make it so apache can read files in /var/www, but users in a group (say 'users') cannot?
[12:08] <gpa> oh ok
[12:08] <gpa> pychess-0.4.1.tar.gz is a chess game
[12:08] <mcphail> gpa: you need to extract them to access the files they contain
[12:08] <gpa> that I found online
[12:08] <gpa> where do I extract them
[12:08] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: yes, and that's odd. it looks like the restart had removed linux-restricted-modules-generic
[12:09] <Nativow> odin: there is no error when i copy. The problem is that in the properties of the files I copied its written link(with problem) in the /usr/include but not in my source directory
[12:09] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: go ahead
[12:09] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, so Evolution>Edit>preferences
[12:09] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: let me try to start x now, I will be back
[12:09] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: install it again
[12:09] <mcphail> gpa: why not create a new folder in your home directory, and drag it there
[12:09] <Nativow> odin: and because of this, i can not include these files in my programs
[12:09] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, in mail accounts click on ADD
[12:09] <gpa> should I intstall things in root or my name
[12:10] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, this starts your account setup wizard
[12:10] <odin> Nativow: sounds like the cp can't work because bad links are already there. Try deleting one of the bad links then do the copy
[12:10] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: OK
[12:10] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, carry on as if you wree setting up an account but instead of choosing pop account or whatever, notice 'usenet'
[12:10] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: done
[12:10] <mcphail> gpa: many small programs can be installed under your home directory for your own use.
[12:10] <youser> hey everyone hows it goig
[12:10] <tylerl> Hi.  I just followed all of the "howto" instructions on setting up my nVidia card + drivers.  It doesn't seem to work though.  When I type in "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" I get an error saying to make sure I properly installed my nVidia driver for the kernel..
[12:11] <gpa> ok I extracted it as Pychess in my home directory
[12:11] <gpa> how do I open it or see it on the "start menu"
[12:11] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: done
[12:11] <odin> Nativow: are you sure you don't need to cp those files to another directory? pointed to by the bad links?
[12:11] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, you need to know your news address
[12:11] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: well that was a dry hole.
[12:11] <gnomefreak> tylerl: make sure you installed the linux-restricted-modules for the kernel you are using
[12:11] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, for me it is news.blueyonder.co.uk
[12:11] <BHSPitLappy> gpa, double click?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: what?
[12:11] <function1> if i add something to my applications menu with alacarte, where does the .desktop file go?
[12:11] <youser> i got a question on how to make a menu entry for a program
[12:11] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: near as I can tell, nvidia-glx is installed, so is l-r-m-g
[12:11] <tylerl> gnomefreak: I did.
[12:11] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: which server?
[12:11] <gpa> its just a folder
[12:12] <gpa> with a lot of different folders
[12:12] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, i don't know who you're isp is and hwat that might be, but the rest should be familiar, username etc
[12:12] <tasos> hey i need some help
[12:12] <rixth> Linux king 2.6.17-10-386 #2 Fri Oct 13 18:41:40 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:12] <odin> youser: what window manager are you using?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> tylerl: change the driver in /etc/X11/xorg.conf to read nvidia
[12:12] <youser> gnome?
[12:12] <youser> just regular dapper setup
[12:12] <tasos> i need to set up a rooter
[12:12] <mcphail> gpa: there may be a README file somewhere to click on to see how to run it
[12:12] <gnomefreak> cyber: dont do that
[12:12] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, yes, server
[12:12] <eobanb_> tasos, you mean a router?
[12:12] <tasos> ooppss yep
[12:12] <odin> youser: in System-Preferences there should be a menu choice called Menu Layout
[12:12] <youser> theres not
[12:13] <youser> theres menus and toolbars
[12:13] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, you've already chosen usenet news from the scroll-down haven'tyou?
[12:13] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: any ideas on what I can do now?
[12:13] <gpa> k thanks, another question if you got time
[12:13] <eobanb_> tasos, is this a dedicated machine, or are you also using it as a workstation
[12:13] <function1> youser, look for alacarte menu editor in applications
[12:13] <Nativow> odin: these files are libraries that i want to be able to include in my C programs. So i need to cp them to /usr/include right?
[12:13] <youser> which i can set how my window toolbars look
[12:13] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: make sure the BusID line is right in xorg.conf and make sure its using nvidia drivers in device section
[12:13] <Yourname`> Hello. Can someone help me with this problem -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1723942#post1723942
[12:13] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: what to do for mail send
[12:13] <tasos> what step i should follow its a simple pc
[12:13] <odin> youser: There should be three items on the top left...one of them is System
[12:13] <youser> yep
[12:13] <eobanb_> tasos, is this a dedicated machine, or are you also using it as a workstation
[12:13] <tasos> but i need to connect to the router in order to connect to the net
[12:13] <youser> system on the far right
[12:14] <tasos> dedicated machine
[12:14] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: the busID is right...and so is the driver
[12:14] <odin> Nativow: maybe they already exist and are linked in /usr/include from someplace else.
[12:14] <function1> if i add something to my applications menu with alacarte, where does the .desktop file go?
[12:14] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, what did you put in the server
[12:14] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: let me get you the exact error again
[12:14] <gpa> when I use add/remove I find the Xchat IRC, but it says conflicting program and enable advanced mode to resolve
[12:14] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: something changed we need to find what changed
[12:14] <gpa> how do I get into advanced mode
[12:14] <odin> youser: right....click on System, then Preferences, then Menu Layout
[12:14] <eobanb_> tasos, let me make sure i understand this right...you want to use an ordinary PC that has two ethernet cards as a gateway to provide NAT and DHCP to other machines, yes?
[12:14] <Nativow> odin: hum.. maybe you are right.. ill check it
[12:14] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: it says "FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[12:15] <youser> i dont have menu layout
[12:15] <youser> just menus and toolbars
[12:15] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: this is the same error I get if I try to do 'modprobe nvidia'
[12:15] <odin> Nativow: where does one of those problem links point? Check that directory to see if the file is already there
[12:15] <odin> youser: if you click on System, do you get a drop down menu?
[12:15] <Takmadeus> what you told me
[12:15] <youser> yep
[12:15] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: remove nvidia-glx and install it again DO NOT run sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[12:16] <odin> youser: does that menu have an entry called "Preferences"?
[12:16] <youser> yep
[12:16] <earthian|v2> !info dmraid
[12:16] <ubotu> dmraid: Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9+1.0.0.rc9-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 117 kB, installed size 460 kB
[12:16] <odin> youser: if you click on Preferences, do you get another menu?
[12:16] <youser> yep
[12:16] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: done
[12:16] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: after its installed go into xorg.conf and make sure everythng is right save close and ctrl+alt+backspace
[12:16] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: no need to C+A+B, i'm in terminal
[12:16] <gpa> this is my error message when trying to install Xchat IRC through add/remove :
[12:16] <gpa> This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'xchat' the conflicting software must be removed before.
[12:16] <gpa> Switch to the advanced mode to resolve this conflict.
[12:17] <`Jessica> will try to start x.
[12:17] <odin> youser: that menu should contain (I think) 'Menu Layout'...I run enlightenment so I am working from memory
[12:17] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: make sure to stop gdm/kdm/xdm before strating it
[12:17] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, in the Receiving Email dialog what have you put in for 'server' ?
[12:17] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: what else?
[12:17] <Takmadeus> the same
[12:17] <youser> it does not contain "menu layout'
[12:17] <function1> youser, if you have dapper, look for something called Alacarte Menu Editor in the Applications > Accessories menu
[12:17] <youser> should dapper?
[12:17] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, the same as what?
[12:17] <function1> odin: i think menu layout only comes in edgy
[12:17] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: i get the same error
[12:17] <function1> otherwise its called alacarte
[12:17] <function1> in the apps men
[12:17] <function1> u
[12:17] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: news.blueyonder.co.uk
[12:17] <youser> foundit, starting
[12:17] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: uname -r?
[12:17] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, is blueyonder your isp?
[12:18] <odin> function1: right....didn't run dapper for very long
[12:18] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, are you in the uk?
[12:18] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight:nope :p
[12:18] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: I'm in Colombia :p
[12:18] <`Jessica> son of a bitch
[12:18] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, dude...i was giving you an example, its what i use... lol...
[12:18] <`Jessica> gnomefreak!
[12:18] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: it changed me from -generic to -386
[12:18] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: on 386?
[12:18] <livingdaylight> !gnomefreak
[12:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnomefreak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:18] <gnomefreak> figured as much
[12:19] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: heh! then I am completely lost :p
[12:19] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: please watch your language too
[12:19] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, yes, you are
[12:19] <function1> im still trying to figure out where alacarte or the "menu layout" app keeps those desktop entrys though
[12:19] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: should I use a mail account then?
[12:19] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, do you know who your isp is?
[12:19] <youser> desktop entrys?
[12:19] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: 386 boots by default unless you choose -generic to boot
[12:19] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: yeah, telecom
[12:19] <gpa> how doyou reigster on this
[12:19] <odin> function1: now you know why I use enlightenment <smile>
[12:19] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: that must have been what the update was for.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: thats why i got rid of the 386 kernels
[12:19] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: can I use a normal mail account?
[12:19] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, then it might be news.telecom.whatever
[12:19] <kitche> gpa: /msg nickserv help
[12:20] <tannerld> gpa: /msg nickserv register pass
[12:20] <tannerld> gpa: I think
[12:20] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: because I'd never had to change the kernel
[12:20] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: well, they do not have a news server actually
[12:20] <Daro> !nat
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <abo> anyone can help me setup windows codecs?
[12:20] <eobanb_> !router
[12:20] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, you'd need to know what the address is
[12:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:20] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: that's why I asked you for an example to try :p
[12:20] <function1> nah i like gnome
[12:20] <landexem> Ack, I just added a startup program that makes me unable to log in to X11.
[12:20] <Daro> exit
[12:20] <landexem> Where is the file located that has the startup programs?
[12:20] <eobanb_> lancetw_, just do gnome failsafe session
[12:20] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, huh? i don't know then...
[12:20] <eobanb_> er, landexem
[12:20] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: i'm going to try to change the packages
[12:20] <youser> thanks for the help guys
[12:20] <youser> that menu editor worked
[12:21] <lullabud> speaking of X11, does anybody know how to do an Xnest session over ssh -x without enabling xdmcp?
[12:21] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: sorry to not be able to help properly :p
[12:21] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, so you just have email with telecom?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: you should beable to install the l-r-m package for 386 and it should work on both kernels. (note *should*)
[12:21] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: from l-r-m-g to l-r-m-386
[12:21] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: nope
[12:21] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: this account does not come with email
[12:21] <youser> *smacks own face*
[12:21] <gnomefreak> `Jessica: install 386 dont remove -g
[12:21] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, so what do you use Evolution for?
[12:21] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: yet I got a POP email somewhere
[12:21] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: Gmail account
[12:21] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: okay, i'll put it back
[12:21] <gpa> how do youenable advanced mode in add/remove
[12:22] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, you retrieve your gmail using evolution and pop?
[12:22] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: indeed
[12:22] <`Jessica> gnomefreak: it works, thank you
[12:22] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, oh...i see
[12:22] <`Jessica> booting back to X
[12:22] <gnomefreak> `yw
[12:22] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: I just enabled pop access in my gmail account :p
[12:22] <aaron_> hey, anyone want to give a new ubuntu user a hand?
[12:22] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, i'll have to try that then. I just have the gmail notifier in my taskbar
[12:22] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: did some config to evolution and I am now using it ;)
[12:22] <landexem> eobanb_: That didn't work.
[12:22] <odin> aaron: just ask the question
[12:23] <eobanb_> landexem, can you describe the problem in more detail
[12:23] <Takmadeus> it is not that hard, actually there is not much problem setting it up ;9
[12:23] <aaron_> i installed ubuntu on a seperate partition of my hard drive, and want to get some of the media files i have on a different partition into ubuntu's partition
[12:23] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: but make sure that you enable pop access in your gmail account
[12:23] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, yea, i did that with thunderbird before
[12:23] <aaron_> the other partition is ntfs
[12:23] <odin> aaron_: did you install a dual boot system?
[12:23] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: same thing can be done with evolution ;)
[12:24] <aaron_> i have the grub boot loader if thats what you mean
[12:24] <landexem> I'm trying to install XGL following a guide, but it didn't work and now that I've added this script to autostart with GNOME it just crashes trying to load compiz and restarts X11.
[12:24] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, yea, i get it.. shame about the newsgroup thingy...never mind
[12:24] <livingdaylight> Takmadeus, thx for trying
[12:24] <lullabud> Does anybody know how to start an Xnested gnome-session from ssh -X without having to enable xdmcp ?
[12:24] <odin> aaron_: right...in a terminal type 'mount' and see if the other partitions are already mounted
[12:24] <landexem> eobanb_: So I want to know where the config file is located that stores applications auto-starting in GNOME so I can change it in the console
[12:24] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: i am sure someone else can help you, sorry for not being able to help :(
[12:24] <odin> aaron_: I bet they are mounted in /windows
[12:24] <aaron_> how do i get to the terminal?
[12:24] <aaron_> sorry to ask such noobish questions
[12:24] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: but do not worry, given the case that you need help and I'm around it's OK ;)
[12:25] <eobanb_> landexem, does the problem happen before you even log in, or does it happen as gnome is loading
[12:25] <odin> aaron_: are you running gnome?
[12:25] <gpa> aaron applications accesories terminal
[12:25] <lullabud> aaron_:  alt-F2  ->  gnome-terminal
[12:25] <lk11mn> hi, I hope someone can help me, i'm trying to install ubuntu, but when i get to "select a disk" it shows me the partition i want to setup on (which is in /dev/mapper) but it will only allow me to resise the disks (/dev/sda) how to i get an option for the dev/mapper paritions in this manual partition reseze section, thx for readin anyway :p
[12:25] <aaron_> i got a "run application window
[12:25] <lullabud> aaron_:  gnome-terminal
[12:25] <lullabud> aaron_:  but actually i like gpa's advice, but i'd right-click and hit "add to panel" ;-)
[12:25] <youser> i also have a tricky router problem
[12:26] <aaron_> now i type mount?
[12:26] <landexem> eobanb_: It happens as GNOME is loading
[12:26] <gpa> I went to system-prefs-keyboard shorcuts and made mine alt-1
[12:26] <landexem> I can access GDM and the terminals tty1-6 just fine
[12:26] <eobanb_> landexem, you know how to set gdm to run a gnome failsafe session instead of the default session?
[12:26] <nolimitsoya> lk11mn, /dev/mapper? are you using some sort ofencryption software?
[12:27] <aaron_> /dev/sdb7 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:27] <aaron_> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[12:27] <aaron_> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[12:27] <aaron_> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[12:27] <aaron_> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[12:27] <aaron_> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[12:27] <gpa> how do youget into advacned mode for add/remove??
[12:27] <aaron_> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[12:27] <aaron_> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[12:27] <aaron_> there is what i got
[12:27] <eobanb_> !paste
[12:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:27] <nolimitsoya> !pastebin | aaron
[12:27] <landexem> eobanb_: I just tried that, but it still executed my script and crashed X11.
[12:27] <ubotu> aaron: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:27] <eobanb_> what script?
[12:27] <tez> hey can someone give me a hand mounting a second hard drive?
[12:27] <aaron_> i didnt get any /win things
[12:27] <lk11mn> nolimitsoya: no, i have an existing raid array, but its working
[12:28] <gpa> can someone tell me how to get into advanced mode in add/remove so I can install Xchat irc (it has a conflicting program)
[12:28] <aaron_> what do i click to mount a hard drive?
[12:28] <nolimitsoya> gpa, use apt-get instead, or synaptic
[12:28] <compudaze> gpa, use synaptic in your admin menu
[12:29] <landexem> eobanb_: The one that is supposed to launch XGL/Compiz
[12:29] <Takmadeus> livingdaylight: anyway, see ya' Hope you can solve your problem
[12:29] <piedoggie> I'm developing Python modules on ubuntu.  ubuntu is running on Windows as a guest OS under VM Ware.  The work is split with editing on Windows and configuration management (bzr) and testing on the guest OS ubuntu.  The problem is, I can't find a shared file system method that doesn't screw me over either with ownership, permissions, or stability problems.  I've tried Samba, NFS, and VM Ware...
[12:29] <piedoggie> ...shared files.  All fail.  Are there any other options I haven't considered yet?
[12:29] <gpa> apt-get what
[12:29] <roland-erau> gpa: sudo apt-get ...
[12:29] <eobanb_> landexem, ...and that would be a question for #ubuntu-xgl
[12:30] <nolimitsoya> aaron_, type in a console sudo mount /dev/<drivedesignation> -t <filesystemtype> /<mountpath>
[12:30] <kitche> piedoggie: use vfat ont he guest OS but permissions windows don't know about anyways
[12:30] <bimberi> gpa: try Synaptic, accessible via System -> Administration -> Synaptic Package Manager
[12:30] <landexem> eobanb_: No, it's not.
[12:30] <nolimitsoya> gpa, sudo apt-get remove xchat removes xchat, sudo apt-get remove --purge xchat removes xchat and all configuration files, sudo apt-get install xchat installs xchat
[12:31] <gpa> and search using all? (theres so many words)
[12:31] <piedoggie> maybe I could use a thumb drive and try mounting that as a shared file system but that will be pretty tricky since the fat drivers don't know about sharing between two operating systems
[12:31] <nolimitsoya> gpa, 'man apt-get' in terminal gives you the manual
[12:31] <landexem> When one adds a program to System -> Preferences -> Sessions then Startup Programs -> Add, where is the configuration file that controls this list of auto-starting programs within GNOME?
[12:31] <nolimitsoya> gpa, to search using apt, type apt-cache search xchat
[12:31] <aaron_> can you please explain again how to mount a hard drive partition?
[12:31] <piedoggie> I've learned more about Windows permissions than I care to think about.  Windows maps to about a third of what UNIX can do for permissions.
[12:31] <gpa> ncie thank you
[12:32] <piedoggie> I think that's almost worse than not knowing anything.
[12:32] <nolimitsoya> aaron_, type in a console sudo mount /dev/<drivedesignation> -t <filesystemtype> /<mountpath> :)  what part do you want explained?
[12:32] <gpa> can I use apt-cache for searching anything?
[12:32] <eobanb_> landexem, sigh.  yes, it is.  all xgl-related questions should go to #ubuntu-xgl.
[12:32] <nolimitsoya> gpa, yes
[12:32] <tuskernini> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hard_drive_folder
[12:32] <eobanb_> landexem, i'll be happy to help you over there.
[12:32] <livingdaylight> Can someone help me with Evolution. Usenet doesn't work for me.
[12:32] <landexem> eobanb_: This isn't an XGL question because all I want is to disable a script I told to startup with GNOME.
[12:32] <Tonren> Hey guys, I upgraded to Edgy and now I can't Ctrl + C out of boot-up processes (like Configuring network interfaces...) anymore.
[12:32] <Tonren> I turned off "Quiet" but I still can't Ctrl + C out of a process.
[12:32] <livingdaylight> Does Usenet work for anybody out there using Evolution?
[12:32] <probose> well, i made some shit and now my tray icons dont appear (just the sound icon). How do i set'em up again?
[12:33] <youser> to mount a hard drive
[12:33] <youser> sudo fdisk -l
[12:33] <eobanb_> landexem, but it's the script to start Xgl, yes?
[12:33] <eobanb_> therefore it's an Xgl question
[12:33] <Ecrouch> lol, i cant get ubuntu to detect my harddrive, anyone want to help
[12:33] <youser> make sure it is already hooked up
[12:33] <plugwash> Tonren iirc edgy totally replaced the init structure
[12:33] <gg_> hi to all the person who like ubuntu
[12:33] <plugwash> Tonren so issues like this would be expected
[12:33] <landexem> The script is screwing things up, and I want it gone.  The fact that it's XGL-related shouldn't matter in this particular case because I just want to boot into GNOME without XGL for now, THEN get XGL working
[12:33] <Kuprin> Meow people. I upgraded to Edgy and VisualBoyAdvance is running incredibly slowly now. Haven't tried any other games, but the general OS is significantly slower.  How do i set'em up again?
 I just tried that and I get the error mount point /backup does not exist?
[12:33] <youser> to mount a hard drive
[12:33] <youser> sudo fdisk -l
[12:33] <Tonren> plugwash: I'm not concerned as to whether or not they're expected.  I just want a fix!
[12:33] <youser> make sure it is already hooked up
[12:33] <LjL> !language | probose, add the notification area applet (right click on the panel) to get it back, and
[12:33] <ubotu> probose, add the notification area applet (right click on the panel) to get it back, and: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:33] <Ecrouch> no, i mean for installing ubuntu
[12:33] <landexem> eobanb_: But thanks for the offer on helping out with XGL after I disable this script
[12:34] <Tonren> plugwash: Either there should be a way to specify to /etc/network/interfaces, "Don't bother connecting if there's nothing plugged into the ethernet port," which would be ideal, or there should be a way to Ctrl + C out of boot processes.
[12:34] <aaron_> it replied mount: only root can do that
[12:34] <nolimitsoya> tez, have you created that folder? if its in your home, or in the path you are currently browsing, there should be no leading /
[12:34] <bettyboop1975> ce sarebbe asp
[12:34] <bimberi> probose: add the Notification Area applet to your panel.  Language unneccessary thankyou
[12:34] <tuskernini> aaron, use sudo
[12:34] <gpa> thanks all
[12:34] <aaron_> oh okay
[12:34] <tuskernini> aaron_: use sudo
[12:34] <lk11mn> help plz, im manually resizing partitions for ubuntu, but the partition i want which is in /dev/mapper/ doesnt show up in the "select a disk" part of the install? i can only see the /dev/sda /dev/sdb etc, thx
[12:34] <Ecrouch> when i go to install ubuntu, it doesnt detect the harddrive
[12:34] <nolimitsoya> tez, if its in you home th full path would be /home/<username>/<folder>
[12:34] <probose> bimberi: add the Notification? what is it?
[12:35] <LjL> probose, right click on the panel, choose "Add applet", and choose "Notification area"
[12:35] <E_Presly> edgy - initramfs - error at boot, cant mount root... anyone can help?
[12:35] <bimberi> probose: right-click on the panel, Add to Panel ..., Utilities Section, Notification Area
[12:35] <compudaze> anyone compile cedega cvs on edgy?
[12:35] <LjL> probose: the notification area is the system tray.
[12:35] <kitche> Tonren: there's a way just don't have dhcpcd run at boot
[12:35] <aaron_> what mountpath should i use? bin?
[12:35] <probose> bimberi: there is no "add applet option =/"
[12:35] <nolimitsoya> aaron_, you can use any folder you want, as long as its empty
 there is now a backup directory in my home folder but nothing in it??
[12:35] <Tonren> kitche: Yeah, but then when I'm wired, I have to wait for it to run once I log in.
[12:35] <aaron_> ok, thank you very much
[12:36] <Kuprin> So does anyone know why Edgy has caused games to slow down so much?
[12:36] <Tonren> It's totally stupid that Ubuntu still can't intelligently configure network interfaces.
[12:36] <bimberi> probose: you need to right-click on an empty area of the panel
[12:36] <nolimitsoya> tez, have you mounted a drive in that folder? in that case, has the free space changed for that folder, and was the drive empty?
[12:36] <probose> bimberi im doeing so
[12:36] <tez> no the drive has a lot of data on it
[12:36] <bimberi> probose: and it's "Add to Panel..."
[12:36] <landexem> How do I disable things I told to autostart with GNOME by going to System -> Preferences -> Sessions, then Startup Programs -> Add
[12:36] <tez> i thought I just did
[12:36] <Neil3> hey folks anyone else having issues installing the nvidia driver, specifically running the script after install to configure xorg.conf? seems to not want to do anything.
[12:36] <kitche> Tonren: oh it's intelligently any distro that you have dhcpcd on during boot will tkae a while to scan for a dhcpcd if once isn't there
[12:36] <nolimitsoya> tez, then try again :)
[12:36] <probose> LjL, what is happening, for example, when i open amarok, i cant see its icon in the tray
[12:37] <bimberi> probose: you're using Gnome right?
[12:37] <Tonren> kitche: There's no way to check and see if there's a cable plugged into the ethernet port?  You've gotta be kidding me.
[12:37] <nolimitsoya> tez, whats the name of your drive, its filesystem and your user?
[12:37] <probose> bimberi yes... theres the option "add to panel"
[12:37] <aaron_> what would the filepath to the desktop be?
[12:37] <probose> but theres nothing inside that option that can fix my problem
[12:37] <aaron_> i made a folder on the desktop
 now getting the error - /dev/hda5 already mounted or /home/tez/backup busy
[12:37] <nolimitsoya> aaron /home/<username>/Desktop
[12:38] <aaron_> thanks:)
[12:38] <nolimitsoya> tez, sudo umount /dev/hda5
[12:38] <Eric44> Has anyone else had problems with their machine slowing down considerably when the Internet goes down/gets disconnected?
[12:38] <kitche> Tonren: dhcpcd is checking if a cable is plugged into the ethernet port, but then again I run a static ip on my computer so I don't have to deal with things like that
[12:38] <LjL> probose, there should be a "notification area" applet in there.
[12:38] <bimberi> probose: what do you mean?  Have you added a Notification Area applet?
[12:38] <aaron_> special device /dev/E: does not exist
[12:38] <Tonren> kitche: If it was checking, then it wouldn't hang when nothing's plugged in.
[12:38] <aaron_> E: is the designation of the hard drive
[12:38] <Kraig> hi, i'm getting "Could not launch menu item. Details: Failed to fork (cannot allocate memory)", never saw this before, any ideas?
[12:39] <nolimitsoya> aaron_, linux doesnt use letters for drive designation
[12:39] <LjL> Kraig: wow. do you have a swap partition?
 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30489/ - might be more useful to you
[12:39] <aaron_> what does it use?
[12:39] <eobanb_> rofl, /dev/E:
[12:39] <eobanb_> bahahaha
[12:39] <eobanb_> that's great.
[12:39] <Eric44> Heh.
[12:39] <kitche> Tonren: it doesn't hang but maybe dhclient will be faster for you
 got the error /dev/hda5: not mounted
[12:39] <gg_> bye bye
[12:39] <Kraig> LjL: Swap:       489972     356876     133096 (that's what free returns, last value is free)
[12:39] <nolimitsoya> aaron_, you drive will be /dev/hda1 for primary pata master partition1, /dev/hdb1 for secondary master partition1, and so on
[12:40] <filque> hi
[12:40] <Eric44> Hi, filque.
[12:40] <E_Presly> My ubuntu (edgy) stops during boot. It say it cant mount root and then say something about initramfs? Can someone point me in some direction?
[12:40] <Harksaw> did upgrading to edgy break folding@home for anyone else?
[12:40] <nolimitsoya> eobanb_, please be nice :)
[12:40] <aaron_> what about sdb?
[12:40] <eobanb_> nolimitsoya, i know, i know, i usually am, but that was too funny.
[12:40] <youser> thats why i dnt upgrade to dgy
[12:40] <nolimitsoya> aaron_, sdb would be secondary scsi/sata drive :)
[12:40] <alex__> Hello.
[12:40] <E_Presly> I should add that it was almost a fresh install and I am running dualboot with XP
[12:40] <aaron_> ok
[12:41] <nolimitsoya> tez, you fstab should only be touched if you want a permanent mount
[12:41] <youser> i got a weird question about my router
[12:41] <LjL> Kraig, so some of it is free, but still it's quite taken up... i'd reboot honestly (or hunt for some process that's gone mad)
[12:41] <youser> if anyone has a chance
[12:41] <LjL> !ask
[12:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:41] <Eric44> Anyone having problems with a system slowdown when the Internet is not available?
[12:41] <youser> once my internet is running i can hook up the router and it works to my comp
[12:41] <nolimitsoya> tez, again, whats you drive designation, partition number, file system and user name? ill give you a complete cut'n'paste cvommand :)
[12:42] <Kraig> LjL: this is confusing, i never had to reboot for any reason... (least on debian :S)
[12:42] <landexem> How do I disable things I told to autostart with GNOME by going to System -> Preferences -> Sessions, then Startup Programs -> Add
[12:42] <youser> but when i shut down my comp and restart it it cant find my network card
[12:42] <Kraig> (unless we involve kernel upgrade)
[12:42] <youser> until i unhook my  router and hook direct back the modem
[12:42] <LjL> Kraig, you could just find the offending process (if any) and kill it.
[12:42] <nanotube_> hello, where is a information about my icons in my panel stored. suppose that I would like to copy it and create exactly the same shortcut in other profile without copy whole profile? thanks
[12:42] <sqworm> is there a way to list hard drives that are plugged in kinda like lspci?
[12:42] <LjL> Kraig, i'd reboot because i wouldn't bother doing that, that's all
 I'm a newb to ubuntu as of about an hour ago - where do I find all that info?
[12:42] <Tonren> kitche: I think I'm just gonna shut it off on boot.
[12:42] <mlehrer_work> sqworm: cat /proc/partitions
[12:43] <eobanb_> landexem, the gnome failsafe session.  i know you're still talking about xgl and compiz, so please ask in #ubuntu-xgl about it
[12:43] <sqworm> mlehrer_work: will that only show mounted partitions or all?
[12:43] <aaron_> ok, i got it mounted, then i tried to open the folder and it said i didnt have necessary permission
[12:43] <nolimitsoya> tez, where is your harddrive plugged in? what partition do you want access to, and how did you format that partition?
[12:43] <Kraig> LjL: i'll kill the processes that use the most cpu, like opera...
[12:43] <eobanb_> what just happened?
[12:43] <nolimitsoya> aaron_, do you own the mount folder?
[12:44] <nolimitsoya> tez, hows it going?
[12:45] <youser> also i dnt know the model of my router
[12:45] <nolimitsoya> aaron_, to make yourself the owner of a directory or file, type sudo chown <username>:<username> /<path>
[12:46] <nolimitsoya> aaron_, to make that user the owner of all files and folders under that path, use -R
[12:51] <RegalEagle> jesus christ
[12:51] <RegalEagle> O_O
[12:51] <LoudMouthMan> n o.. just a split
[12:51] <RegalEagle> I know
[12:51] <RegalEagle> Never seen one that big before
[12:51] <LoudMouthMan> must have been rapture
[12:52] <ryanakca> heh, 141 nicks vs 1000<
[12:52] <RegalEagle> wb everyone
[12:52] <apokryphos> woo
[12:53] <ryanakca> 438 nicks vs 1000<
[12:53] <|thunder> there we go  :)
[12:53] <Legendre> woot
[12:53] <Legendre> hey folks, there is a big problem with pdf/ps printing for older HP printers, in 6.10
[12:53] <Comrade_S> lol
[12:53] <pppoe_dude> whee
[12:53] <Comrade_S> another batch
[12:54] <Comrade_S> sup linuxmigration
[12:54] <|thunder> mine said 160 users in #ubuntu
[12:55] <youser> hey is it done resetting?
[12:55] <ibob63> think so.
[12:55] <youser> cuz i need some help
[12:56] <snerge> When I start winecfg for the first time (in a fresh kde session) I can configure it, then I close it and when I try to run it again I get this error : http://pastebin.com/818735 (Kubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10, Nvidia 8776 ) Anyone have an idea ?
[12:56] <youser> my router blocks my network card when i restart my comp
[12:57] <meherenOS-X> i can't boot the live cd it gives an error" fixed optical drive not found any ideas?
[12:57] <meherenOS-X> *found" any...
[12:57] <ibob63> does anyone know a good alternative to Ekiga? It can't seem to see my creative webcam.
[12:57] <compudaze> tell it where your fixed optical drive is
[12:57] <Comrade_S> snerge: I know nexr to nothing about wine but I think the problem is with your graphic card, xgl is preventing a iwndwo form opeining or interfering with it
[12:57] <Legendre> I see one or two unanswered requests on the ubuntu forum..
[12:57] <Legendre> anyway, I need a fix in the worst way for this.. what's the best route to take?
[12:57] <Legendre> I can't even tell if CUPS is busted in and of itself, or if the ubuntu magic broke it.
[12:57] <youser> skype?
[12:58] <RegalEagle> >_>
[12:58] <RegalEagle> What's the chat channel again?
[12:58] <meherenOS-X> compudaze, no, the computer gives that error before it even loads the cd
[12:58] <nolimitsoya> RegalEagle, #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:58] <RegalEagle> thanks
[12:58] <snerge> Comrade_S: So I shall wait for next nvidia driver releas I guess ?
[12:58] <numist> woo
[12:59] <Legendre> hm, are the lamers pounding freenode?
[12:59] <compudaze> snerge, which version of wine? no problems here
[12:59] <ibob63> is there a way to turning off all the entered and left messages?
[12:59] <snerge> compudaze: 0.9.24
[12:59] <compudaze> same here
[12:59] <aaron__> i got access to the files now, the players say i need decoders, how do i go about that?
[12:59] <youser> can i configure ubuntu to read y network card through my router?
[12:59] <dacableguy> lamers?
[12:59] <Comrade_S> snerge:  sorry I am not in the postion to help you cos I dont even use wine
[01:00] <snerge> Comrade_S: no problem, thanks :P
[01:00] <Comrade_S> kk
[01:00] <compudaze> same driver version as well
[01:00] <dacableguy> does anyone here use msstyle themes with wine?
[01:00] <Legendre> dacableguy - yeah, lamers.. kiddies, crackers, asshats etc
[01:00] <meherenOS-X> is it possible to boot off of a different computer (they both have the same arch)
[01:00] <snerge> the funny thing is that it does start the first time after a fresh session start
[01:00] <dacableguy> Legendre - gotcha :-P
[01:01] <mwe> snerge: does it still happen if you log out of X and back in?
[01:01] <dacableguy> asshats is such a great word
[01:02] <youser> my router is an asshat
[01:02] <snerge> mwe, the first time I start winecfg or any other app it works but it does not after that, not until I exit X and log back in
[01:02] <youser> haha yep thats great
[01:02] <dredhammer> has anyone gotten wireless to work on an Acer Aspire 3000?
[01:02] <dacableguy> anyway....whenever i try using an msstyle theme with wine, its makes cpu usage shoot to 100%.....anyone else have this problem?
[01:02] <mwe> hmm
[01:02] <youser> anyone here run a router?
[01:03] <compudaze> i am a router
[01:03] <youser> one thatu dont have to unhook and hook back up everytime u restart
[01:03] <mammoth220282> can anyone halp me why i can'd connect ?
[01:03] <eobanb_> i run a router with m0n0wall.
[01:03] <compudaze> youser, why do you ask?
[01:03] <youser> will that help?
[01:03] <compudaze> i use shorewall
[01:04] <james296> what would be a great program for Ubuntu that represents FLStudio for Windows?
[01:04] <youser> well my router works after my internet is running like say right now i unhooked my ethernet and went through my modem
[01:04] <eobanb_> i think using ubuntu as a dedicated router is somewhat silly.
[01:04] <compudaze> eobanb, why
[01:04] <youser> theni could beonhere and play xbox live at the same time
[01:04] <gpa> sup
[01:04] <eobanb_> because there are plenty of much more lightweight ways to do it
[01:04] <eobanb_> i mean i can have m0n0wall on a CF card
[01:04] <youser> but after i restart it cant find my network
[01:04] <eobanb_> or use floppyfw from a floppy disk
[01:04] <dredhammer> has anyone gotten wireless to work on an Acer Aspire 3000?
[01:05] <eobanb_> m0n0wall has a nice web interface and boots in seconds
[01:05] <james296> can someone answer me plz?
[01:05] <compudaze> eobanb, my router also serves as my file server (samba), torrent downloader (torrentflux), vmware server and much much more
[01:05] <tag> the new evo seems buggy
[01:05] <gpa> anyone here watch purepwnage
[01:05] <charle97> james296, what is FLStudio?
[01:05] <compudaze> i have a netgear router i've never used, features can't even compare
[01:05] <youser> i just dont get it how i can hook it up after internet is up and it works
[01:05] <compudaze> not even the wireless access point part of it
[01:05] <eobanb_> i think we're getting a little off topic here, anyway.
[01:05] <youser> but after restart it cnt detect mt network interface
[01:06] <gpa> sry
[01:06] <james296> Fruity Loops Studio, its a music thing that lets you create ur own music
[01:06] <james296> but not just for drums like in Hydrogen for Ubuntu...
[01:06] <youser> anyone know what i can do about my router?
[01:06] <compudaze> james296, u can try to use wine to run the windows program under linux
[01:06] <james296> true...
[01:07] <charle97> james296, http://createdigitalmusic.com/2005/11/28/linux-music-lmms-linuxs-own-fruity-loops/
[01:07] <youser> or u can get used to lmms and forget about vstis
[01:07] <dredhammer> has anyone gotten wireless to work on an Acer Aspire 3000?
[01:07] <dredhammer> i followed the ubuntu guides and nada
[01:07] <snerge> mwe: it is probably something with my nvidia drivers, I am using dual lcd with xinerama ... maybe I should try with only one monitor
[01:07] <mrstatters> propellerheads software is excellent for studio emulates many thousands of pounds hardware
[01:07] <djmccormick_> why isn't bittorrent-curses included in the bittorrent package available through apt-get
[01:07] <sharperguy> whats the permission number for read
[01:07] <sharperguy> ?
[01:07] <youser> i used to use reason 3.0
[01:08] <compudaze> readonly?
[01:08] <youser> in my windows days
[01:08] <compudaze> for everyone?
[01:08] <compudaze> 444
[01:08] <nanotube> hello how can I add icon/shortcut onto my panel using shell?
[01:08] <sharperguy> i mean the number (execute us 1)
[01:08] <sharperguy> read: 4 write:2 execute: 1? yea
[01:08] <compudaze> not sure what u mean
[01:08] <youser> is there a program that can detect my network interface through a router?
[01:08] <compudaze> yeah
[01:09] <sharperguy> kool
[01:09] <mrstatters> yah reason v cool also ,no idea if it runs on linux though I use it on a windows box
[01:09] <gpa> how do you install .gz or tgz
[01:09] <youser> reason is not available for linux
[01:09] <dacableguy> whenever i try using an msstyle theme with wine, its makes cpu usage shoot to 100%.....anyone else have this problem?
[01:09] <nanotube> hello how can I add icon/shortcut onto my panel using shell?
[01:09] <compudaze> gpa kinda vague
[01:09] <youser> wine is garbage
[01:10] <dacableguy> a .gz or .tgz is just an archive...like .zip or .rar
[01:10] <compudaze> gpa, you'll most likey have to extract it, compile it, then install it, usually there's a README or INSTALL file that gives you direction
[01:10] <gpa> k thanks
[01:10] <andresmujica> 4
[01:10] <dacableguy> youser - maybe, but that doesnt help me at all...i need to use it
[01:10] <youser> lol sorry man
[01:10] <youser> good luck
[01:10] <youser> i once used wine to run winamp
[01:10] <youser> , it took a shit
[01:11] <compudaze> why do you need the themes?
[01:11] <youser> winamp looked like a black box with no buttons
[01:11] <dacableguy> i just need it for EAC
[01:11] <pssmislata> hola
[01:11] <sharperguy> umm
[01:11] <compudaze> eac?
[01:11] <docuk2> how do i change the 'resolution' of the ctrl-alt-f# consoles?
[01:11] <dacableguy> compudaze - just to make windows apps look more ubuntu'ish
[01:11] <humbraro> youser: try installing wordperfect with it - driving me nuts for the last 3 days
[01:11] <pssmislata> spanis?????
[01:11] <sharperguy> how do i fix this errpr? "sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0444, should be 0440
[01:11] <dacableguy> EAC = Exact Audio Copy
[01:11] <youser> lol no way
[01:11] <youser> im never using wine again
[01:11] <compudaze> dacableguy, beyond the titlebar?
[01:11] <markyg> hey
[01:11] <mrstatters> Does anyone use gaim or xchat with stunnel?
[01:12] <dacableguy> http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/
[01:12] <snerge> nanotube : have a look in your home, (using kubuntu) I found the file ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc
[01:12] <compudaze> sharperguy, sudo chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[01:12] <mwe> docuk2: vga=??? on the kernel boot line. it might interfere with the boot splash though
[01:12] <dacableguy> yes...windows are a dark grey color, it doesnt go with ubuntu's looks in the least
[01:12] <docuk2> hrmm
[01:13] <youser> argghhj router
[01:13] <lk11mn> does anyone know how to invert/rotate the display/desktop 180degrees?
[01:13] <nanotube> snerge:  I'm using ubuntu... but I have find something in ~/.gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers maybe that is what I'm looking for:-)
[01:13] <medic30420> lk11mn, how heavy is the monitor
[01:13] <mrstatters> Flip monitor upside down?
[01:13] <snerge> nanotube: try with a find on an already existing shortcut like :  . -type f -exec grep "firefox" /dev/null {} \;
[01:14] <snerge> hum
[01:14] <nanotube> snerge: thanks dude..
[01:14] <lk11mn> lol guys, that's what the problem is... the monitor is already upside down... i need to flip the os
[01:14] <snerge> missing the find
[01:14] <snerge> haha
[01:14] <mrstatters> Stand on head?
[01:14] <snerge> nanotube: better :  find . -type f -exec grep "firefox" /dev/null {} \;
[01:14] <youser> lmao why is your onitor upside down
[01:15] <youser> locallamen
[01:15] <snerge> nanotube: keep that find command in note somewhere, this is extremely usefull :P
[01:15] <medic30420> lk11mn, some monitors have built in features to do this, otherwise i would imagine it is a video driver task
[01:15] <lk11mn> youser coz its how it attatches to the wall (and saves a helluva lot of room on my desktop)
[01:15] <nanotube> snerge:  why not use grep -r firefox?
[01:15] <nanotube> snerge: I will...
[01:15] <youser> it hang upside down??
[01:15] <youser> u cant reverse the hanger?
[01:16] <youser> or is there no picture flip in your monitors menu?
[01:16] <lk11mn> well the hanger is the base, and the monitor will only lie back (not forward)
[01:16] <nanotube> snerge:  so just that you know as well.. all launchers are stored in ~/.gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers
[01:16] <lk11mn> no, there's nothing nice like a picture flip
[01:16] <youser> that is fking ridiculous
[01:16] <mrstatters> You can get special glasses which make everything appear upside down on e-bay :P
[01:16] <lk11mn> mrstatters lol you can???
[01:16] <docuk2> mwe, if i add the vga= parameter to my menu.lst file, will update-grub revert this edit?
[01:16] <youser> niger rig your monitor to hang right side up
[01:17] <youser> use string, duct tape etc.
[01:17] <snerge> nanotube: I don't think grep -r is working on hp-ux, that's why I'm used to do it with find :P thanks for the hint
[01:17] <mwe> docuk2: not if you put it the right place
[01:17] <docuk2> mwe, ok great
[01:17] <dacableguy> well at least youser can spell racial slurs </sarcasm>
[01:17] <youser> lol i dont thinkn ur alowed to swear in here
[01:17] <youser> i dont wanna get booted
[01:17] <mwe> docuk2: that is not on the actual kernel boot line
[01:17] <lk11mn> ehmm, like i said youser it already is upsidedown
[01:17] <dacableguy> hmmm...perhaps
[01:17] <nanotube> snerge: you are welcome.. thanks for help
[01:17] <youser> hang it right side up
[01:17] <mrstatters> sure only problem is if you wear them long enough when you take them off every thing again appears upside down
[01:17] <docuk2> docuk2, oh errr then where?
[01:17] <docuk2> erm
[01:17] <docuk2> mwe, oh errr then where?
[01:17] <snerge> nanotube: always a pleasure
[01:18] <hocmin> Is there a guide to install nvidia drivers with ubuntu 6.10?
[01:18] <youser> take your eyes out and turn them upside down
[01:18] <medic30420> lk11mn, i know nvidia's driver support flipping image, i imagine that you are going to have to recompile a driver to do this
[01:18] <lk11mn> well youser it wouldnt be hanging if it wasnt upside down, it would be floating
[01:18] <youser> im sure eyeballs work like that
[01:18] <youser> well float it right side up
[01:18] <mwe> docuk2: in the comments somewhere. kopt= or something. update-grub parses the comments there
[01:18] <docuk2> mwe, ohhhh right ok i know what you mean!
[01:18] <docuk2> mwe, thanks!
[01:18] <youser> what kind of retards make a monitor that is upside down
[01:18] <lk11mn> medic30420 recompile a driver, what does that mean?
[01:19] <mwe> docuk2: yw
[01:19] <blahh> Hi! i am making a fresh installation of edgy elf on my amd64.. i succesfully created my raid0 partition.. and made a /boot B ext3 in sda(sda1), so everything went well and installation continued, until setup had to install the bootloader, then i specify grub to be install there ( /dev/sda )... error msg received: excecuting grub install (/dev/sda) failed.. this is a fatal error... any 1 can help me there
[01:19] <mrstatters> australin monitor ? (uk joke)
[01:19] <medic30420> lk11mn, what graphics card do you have
[01:19] <r0bby> http://bash.org/?51403 cute lol
[01:19] <r0bby> linux pride parade
[01:19] <docuk2> am i right in understanding that ubuntu doesnt use bootsplash, it uses usplash?
[01:19] <r0bby> back in the day when we couldn't use linux openly
[01:19] <dacableguy> edgy elf....*shakes head*
[01:19] <r0bby> ...bad day
[01:19] <r0bby> s/day/joke/
[01:20] <lk11mn> medic30420 its an nvidia.... geforce 6200
[01:20] <pppoe_dude> lk11mn, did you try screen resolution settings?
[01:20] <lk11mn> yeh, i was in there, but nothing
[01:20] <youser> lokal lamen did u try putting a small shelf on your wall and mounting it right side up
[01:21] <mrstatters> does anyone use ssl to connect to irc (stunnel)?
[01:21] <youser> it would save on desk space
[01:21] <lostinc> I have recorded my CD collection to OGG. Is there a way to convert to MP3 for my ipod?
[01:21] <Zer0Her0> someone linked me to a how to kernel dev, i've sadly lost the link anyone know what i'm talking bout
[01:21] <youser> lol
[01:21] <funkyHat_> lk11mn, install nvidia-settings, there should be an option in there somewhere (Applications > System Tools > NVIDIA if you're using Gnome)
[01:21] <lk11mn> lol see youser the problem isnt the monitor being upside down... see im on windows right now and i just have nvrotate working, its im happy, sure the post is upside down, but i can see if there's a problem
[01:21] <asdfa> can someone tell me the command to batch resize images in a terminal...i'm forgetting
[01:22] <dacableguy> listinc - i wouldnt convert ogg to mp3...converting from one lossy format to another is bad practice
[01:22] <lk11mn> funkyHat, nvidia settings is like a package i can download with sinaptec?
[01:22] <dacableguy> listinc - major quality loss results
[01:22] <jtf0518> lk11mn, I have a Nvidia GeForce 6200 LE also. What kind of problem are you having?
[01:22] <humbraro> asdfa: check out exiftran or exiftools
[01:22] <ConsoleGuy> hi all, linux n00b in the house
[01:22] <lostinc> But its short term and how much loss are we talking i convert them so that I can go jogging
[01:22] <dacableguy> lostinc sorry
[01:23] <lk11mn> jtf0518 not really a problem, more an issue, i want to invert the display, like nvrotate in windows
[01:23] <funkyHat_> lk11mn, I believe it's in synaptic yep
[01:23] <DanSchnell> why when i type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart its says "Starting GNOME Display Manager...[FAIL] " ?
[01:23] <funkyHat_> lk11mn, just do a search for nvidia and see what comes up
[01:23] <lk11mn> great funkyHat i'll write it down, thx
[01:23] <jtf0518> you mean a complete 180 or just a 90 degree flip?
[01:23] <asdfa> humbraro: there's something native to the terminal (don't have to install a package) i just can't remember...
[01:23] <funkyHat_> lk11mn, one thing, you might also need to install the nvidia graphics drivers, unless you've already done that
[01:23] <dacableguy> lostinc - try installing the package "soundconverter" via synaptic...see how that works for you
[01:24] <medic30420> lk11mn, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_readme_install.html
[01:24] <lk11mn> jtf0518 180
[01:24] <gpa> can you play 3d games such as bf2 in linux
[01:24] <mrstatters> iant that called portrait mode and landscape mode
[01:24] <humbraro> asdfa: those are terminal commands - don't know what you mean otherwise
[01:24] <ConsoleGuy> am wanting to know how to change XMMS so its larger, like WinAmp or WMP, any help?
[01:24] <lostinc> Okay thanks dacableguy
[01:24] <mwe> asdfa: mogrify from the imagemagick package will resize images I think
[01:24] <meheren> what is the command to list all known info about the box?
[01:24] <humbraro> asdfa: image rotation is not a feature of bash
[01:24] <medic30420> lk11mn, there is a option (CCW) that you can specify when loading module that will rotate the display
[01:24] <asdfa> humbraro: mogrify!
[01:24] <asdfa> mwe: thank you
[01:24] <asdfa> mwe: I couldn't remember
[01:24] <mwe> meheren: all known info?
[01:25] <meheren> mwe, ok most...
[01:25] <mwe> meheren: there is no such command
[01:25] <mwe> meheren: what dou need?
[01:25] <mrstatters> sysinfi if it were windwos :)
[01:25] <meheren> mwe, oh hehe :p
[01:25] <mrstatters> sysinfo ^
[01:25] <humbraro> ConsoleGuy: xmms should have a "doublesize" option  but its been awhile since i've used it
[01:25] <asdfa> mwe, humbraro: I forgot that was a part of imagemagick thank you
[01:25] <mwe> sysinfo?
[01:25] <lk11mn> medic30420, sry what's a ccw?
[01:26] <mwe> I don't have that
[01:26] <meheren> mwe, some of my system is dead... (lightning storm no surge protector i think...) i want to see what is working and what is not
[01:26] <humbraro> asdfa: no prob
[01:26] <mrstatters> yah but only on windows :(<---linux newb
[01:26] <funkyHat_> lk11mn, right, what you need to do is first install nvidia-glx if you haven't done so before, and install nvidia-xconfig (sorry I don't think it's nvidia-settings, although try that if nvidia-xconfig doesn't solve it)
[01:26] <meheren> is there some website that could tell me all the system profile commands?
[01:26] <charle97> meheren, top
[01:26] <tag> and the new evolution is forcibly wider than the 800 pixels I want it to live in
[01:26] <mwe> meheren: hmm
[01:26] <tag> goddamnit
[01:26] <meheren> charle97, ... the wiki?
[01:26] <charle97> meheren, no the command "top"
[01:27] <meheren> charle97, oh! ok thx :)
[01:27] <medic30420> it is (counter clock wise) a term in that readme that you can search for, you are going to have to get into some of nvidia's documentation to figure out how to do it, but apparently it can be done
[01:27] <funkyHat_> lk11mn, those are all in synaptic, although you might have to enable the universe repository to get nvidia-xconfig
[01:27] <mwe> meheren: well I'd check the disks to begin with. mount will show if stuff is even mounted correctly
[01:28] <charle97> meheren, there's also a system monitor in pnome
[01:28] <charle97> gnome
[01:28] <E_Presly> I have dualboot, XP and Edgy. I installed Edgy today and it worked great until I rebboted into windows and then back to edgy. I get "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off". Does windows alter my boot partition?
[01:28] <mwe> meheren: what charle97 says. if you can get into a window manager there are some gui programs
[01:28] <mrstatters> what linux equivelent of a netstat -a?
it should not.
[01:29] <lk11mn> great, thx funkyHat_ i'll try nvidia xconfig, and i'll bookmark that link medic30420 in case that doesnt sort it, thx guys
[01:29] <rag> E_Presly: maybe..
[01:29] <charle97> mrstatters, netstat
[01:29] <visik7> mrstatters: netstat -a ?
[01:29] <snerge> mrstatters, what info are you looking for ?
[01:29] <mrstatters> all open ports
[01:29] <regeya> -a : show the state of all sockets?
[01:29] <lk11mn> oh yeh, i see it, ccw cool, thx :) medic30420
[01:29] <Andypat10> !ati in edgy
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ati in edgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <Andypat10> !atu
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about atu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <Andypat10> !ati
[01:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:30] <regeya> btw, rtm man netstat
[01:30] <mrstatters> didnt realise linux used windows commands
[01:30] <E_Presly> mzli, rag: I rebooted Edgy several times and it worked without problems. Then after using XP I cannot use ubuntu anymore. :(.
[01:30] <snerge> mrstatters, this is what netstat-a does on linux too, it just put the service name instead of the port (if know) try with netstat -an if this is the result you want
[01:30] <charle97> mrstatters, unix commands
[01:30] <sethk> E_Presly, installing xp, or just booting it?
[01:30] <snerge> mrstatters, it is the other way around, netstat is unix command
[01:30] <mwe> mrstatters: sudo netstat -ntulp will show listening tcp ports
  install easyubuntu, a intergrated tools include ati driver.
[01:31] <rag> E_Presly: look for grub reinstall
[01:31] <apokryphos> !easyubuntu
[01:31] <ubotu> easyubuntu is easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  -  For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
 It's some strange.
[01:31] <E_Presly> sethk: just booting it.
[01:31] <regeya> mrstatters, if it's a unix command on a windows machine, unless you installed it, it's probably bsd
[01:31] <sethk> mrstatters, snerge is correct.  netstat existed in unix long before dos existed, let alone windows
[01:31] <regeya> os x uses bsd netstat
[01:31] <sethk> E_Presly, that's quite odd.
[01:32] <kitche> regeya: that's because mac os x is bsd
[01:32] <E_Presly> rag: Yeah I saw a possible solution to this in the forums, about the grub list.
[01:32] <Sethwm2> http://ubuntu.ytmnd.com/
[01:32] <rag> E_Presly, my recommendation , re-generate grub
[01:32] <sethk> regeya, that's correct, yes, freebsd netstat which was originally bsd netstat with a slight bit of added stuff, I think
[01:32] <medic30420> lk11mn, you can set those options in your x11 config file under <nvidia>
[01:32] <regeya> kitche: fairly incorrect, but I'll let it drop
[01:32] <sethk> E_Presly, no, I doubt that's at all relevant
[01:32] <drarem> how do you concatenate paths, like:  path=$HOME:/..
[01:32] <sethk> E_Presly, what happens when you boot?  do you get the grub menu?
[01:32] <drarem> with a semicolon?
[01:32] <mwe> what the heck is this. I try to run sysinfo and it says "*** stack smashing detected ***:" and terminates.
[01:32] <snerge> drarem, yup
[01:32] <sethk> drarem, no, colon
[01:33] <snerge> err yeah, :
[01:33] <regeya> kitche: nevermind...duh...you're right...userland has a lot of bsd
[01:33] <E_Presly> sethk: Yes I get the Grub and I can select ubuntu or win
[01:33] <drarem> and like this:  =$HOME:/folder1; $HOME:/folder2
[01:33] <medic30420> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+NVidia
[01:33] <kitche> regeya: Darwin is Mac OS x kernel which is BSD
[01:33] <mrstatters> sysinfo is a winxp pro command
[01:33] <khirr> how can i change my resolution?????
[01:33] <regeya> kitche: my 'os x is not freebsd' reflex kicked in for a bit, sorry
[01:33] <aaron_> can i log in as root from the GUI?
[01:33] <sethk> E_Presly, ok, and what happens when you select linux?
[01:33] <mrstatters> like netstat
[01:33] <mrstatters> lol
what's the err msg when you start edgy?
[01:33] <sethk> regeya, well, that's true, it isn't, even though it borrows quite a bit from it.
[01:33] <mrstatters>  sry couldnt resist
[01:33] <aaron_> anyone?
[01:34] <morphish> regeya: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/netstat.8.html
[01:34] <sethk> aaron_, sure, if you've set the root password.  but you probably shouldn't
[01:34] <aaron_> i have, can i do it from the terminal?
[01:34] <sethk> aaron_, why not just start whatever program you think you need to run as root, as root, instead of the entire gui?
[01:34] <drarem> separate with a space?
[01:34] <snerge> drarem oh, just put PATH=$HOME/folder1:$HOME/folder2
[01:34] <E_Presly> sethk, mzli: right after ubuntu splash: "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[01:34] <sethk> aaron_, do what?  you can su
[01:34] <drarem> thanks
[01:35] <aaron_> i need to set permissions for a mounted folder and im having a very hard time getting it to work
[01:35] <sethk> E_Presly, hmm, sounds like your /dev directory might be screwed up.  or part of the kernel.
[01:35] <sethk> aaron_, do you mean the mounted files?  the mount point?  more than one file in the mounted tree?
[01:35] <snerge> drarem if you want something "clearer" use PATH=${HOME}/folder1:${HOME}/folder2
[01:35] <drarem> ok thanks
[01:35] <rag> any install with netinstall ?
[01:36] <rag> any refer to netinstall ? howto or something?
[01:36] <aaron_> i need to mount a ntfs windows drive into a linux folder and allow myself (aaron) to get into it.
[01:36] <mwe> "stack smashing" is that like a buffer overflow exploit or something?
[01:36] <sethk> E_Presly, most likely you can boot a live cd and fix it, but it would take some time to figure out exactly what to fix.
[01:36] <E_Presly> sethk: yes Im finding something about this in the forums, Im not at that computer atm but Im gonna try it tomorrow.
[01:36] <khermans> aaron_, mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[01:36] <sethk> aaron_, ok, well, first of all, ntfs is generally read only.  to get write access, you have to monkey around with the install quite a bit.
[01:36] <snerge> brb, kvirc switch
[01:36] <khermans> mwe, wtf
[01:36] <sethk> E_Presly, ok.  we can't really be very specific, there are too many possibilities
[01:36] <rag> howto netinstall
[01:37] <Athanasius> does anybody have problems with edgy and crossover office
[01:37] <docuk2> am i right in understanding that ubuntu doesnt use bootsplash, it uses usplash?
[01:37] <sethk> rag, use debian
[01:37] <Athanasius> I am
[01:37] <mwe> khermans: ?
[01:37] <khermans> mwe, why you asking about stack smashing in here
[01:37] <kitche> docuk2: yes you are correct
[01:37] <E_Presly> sethk: yes but I hope that I only have to modify the grub list
[01:37] <sethk> Athanasius, I've talked to a couple of other people reporting that.  specifically, what are you seeing?
[01:37] <mwe> khermans: I try to run sysinfo and it says "*** stack smashing detected ***:" and terminates.
[01:37] <DanSchnell> why when i type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart its says "Starting GNOME Display Manager...[FAIL] " ?
[01:37] <sethk> E_Presly, unlikely, unless you somehow changed it.  I assume you mean the grub config file, which is menu.lst
[01:37] <sladen> docuk2: correct
[01:38] <Athanasius> it says that the windows xp is not recognized
[01:38] <aaron_> it said only root can do the provided command
[01:38] <rag> Sethk, and with ubuntu? i know netinstall on debian , but with ubuntu equal?
[01:38] <Athanasius> the disk I mean
[01:38] <sethk> E_Presly, of course, something unlikely did happen, but it's pretty hard to change your menu.lst file accidentally without clobbering it entirely.
[01:38] <aaron_> that is why i need to login as root
[01:38] <khermans> mwe, you have grc installed?
[01:38] <sethk> rag, doesn't exist, AFAIK
[01:38] <tylerl> I just got my nVidia drivers set up.. but it says I'm using "default CRT monitor", and doesn't allow me to choose any resolution over 800x600.  How do I properly configure my Dell LCD?
[01:38] <sladen> DanSchnell: you need to   gdm stop    gdm start
[01:38] <khermans> aaron_, sudo -i
[01:38] <sethk> aaron_, you can run the command with sudo
[01:38] <rag> sethk: AFAIK? i dont know
[01:38] <sethk> aaron_, probably doing a mount, so try    sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/......
[01:38] <DanSchnell> sladen, that doesn't work either
[01:38] <mwe> khermans: I'll check. I just install sysinfo, asuming it would pull dependencies
[01:38] <sladen> aaron_: sudo <command you want to run as root>
[01:38] <sethk> rag, as far as I know.
[01:38] <sladen> DanSchnell: sudo killall -9 gdm
[01:38] <E_Presly> sethk: Yes but I saw that on the forums that it happend to some people. One of them even after booting windows on a dualboot...
[01:38] <rag> sethk, ok
[01:38] <sethk> rag, AFAIK, as far as I know
[01:39] <sethk> E_Presly, ok, still seems unlikely, but we'll see what happens.
[01:39] <docuk2> kitche, is there a way to use bootsplash instead of usplash?
[01:39] <rag> sethk, then, with netinstall , change image with ubuntu iso
[01:39] <sethk> E_Presly, it's easy to get confused about whether something is really caused by booting another o/s.  It almost never really is.
[01:39] <aaron_> alright, how do i set it so aaron has permission to access the folder now?
[01:39] <rag> sethk: but with pxe client, my client computer have a bios very rare
[01:39] <mwe> khermans: I installed it. same error still
[01:39] <BryanJK> Will someone help me reset tv time?
[01:40] <sethk> rag, ok, I've never actually tried it with BOOTP or PXE, so it might work.
[01:40] <blahh> Hi! i am making a fresh installation of edgy elf on my amd64.. i succesfully created my raid0 partition.. and made a /boot B ext3 in sda(sda1), so everything went well and installation continued, until setup had to install the bootloader, then i specify grub to be install there ( /dev/sda )... error msg received: excecuting grub install (/dev/sda) failed.. this is a fatal error... any 1 can help me there
[01:40] <Athanasius> crossover office says that my officexp disk is not compatible with my drive configuration
[01:40] <sethk> rag, can't really hurt to try.
[01:40] <khermans> mwe, installed what?
[01:40] <stevenx> hello.
[01:40] <dacableguy> its not called edgy ELF!!
[01:40] <docuk2> sladen, is there a way to use bootsplash instead of usplash?
[01:40] <stevenx> does anyone know if ubuntu can read ntsc drives?
[01:40] <tylerl> How do I configure my Dell LCD monitor on Ubuntu? It thinks I have a "default CRT".. can't config the resolution.
[01:40] <aaron_> seth? did you get my last message?
[01:40] <mwe> khermans: grc. you asked if I had it installed
[01:40] <khermans> mwe, i see your same error
[01:40] <mwe> odd
yes
[01:40] <aaron_> how do i set the permission for the new mounted folder now?
[01:40] <khermans> mwe, i meant gr security -- you dont want grc installed
but can not write.
[01:41] <mwe> oh ;)
[01:41] <stevenx> mzli: thank you.
[01:41] <sethk> blahh, it's trying to install grub as if you didn't have a RAID setup, I think.  You should skip grub during the install, and then install grub later after booting the live CD
[01:41] <stevenx> mzli: k.
[01:41] <rag> sethk: i put with netboot, but it not start for me, i think i have to use a special disk for start interface network on computer client
[01:41] <BryanJK> Will someone help me RESET Tv Time's settings.. I messed something up now it crashes on startup
[01:41] <rag> sethk, thx for all, bye
[01:41] <sethk> aaron_, in the man page for mount, look at the NTFS section, the UID= and GID= options
[01:41] <blahh> sethk i dont know how to do this though :S
[01:41] <aaron_> what main page?
[01:41] <sethk> aaron_, but, you are probably dealing with a read-only mount, and you won't be able to write.  you can change who can read using UID= and GID=
[01:42] <blahh> now i have the alternate cd.. currently downloading the desktop one
[01:42] <mabus> how do I manually setup static ip, netmask, and gateway (and turn dhcp off) in ubuntu on the command line
[01:42] <sladen> docuk2: you're free to use bootsplash if you want.  One of the major reasons that Ubuntu doesn't ship it is that bootsplash requires kernel patches.
[01:42] <AaronCampbell> Does anyone know of a place that will detail some specific advantages (preferrably also disadvantages) of Edgy Eft over Fedora 6? (I'm trying to decide which to install)
[01:42] <docuk2> sladen, oh hrmmm - i just quite like the verbose mode of bootsplash
[01:42] <sethk> blahh, you mean, how to install grub?  you can cheat and install grub onto a cd, then set the machine up to boot from cd.  If you don't mind leaving that cd in the drive (assuming the machine has a cd drive and can boot from cd)
[01:43] <sethk> blahh, well, it's a new 64 bit box, so surely it can boot from cd, if it has one.
[01:43] <sladen> AaronCampbell: best thing might be to Google.  If you ask Fedora you'll get biased views.  If you ask here, you'll get biased views
[01:43] <mwe> khermans: I guess sysinfo is broken. maybe I should file a bug report
[01:43] <Fireal> what do I need for .avi files? (Divx)
[01:43] <blahh> i know how to boot from cd :)
[01:43] <blahh> i meant i dont have the live cd yet
[01:43] <tylerl> How do I configure my Dell LCD monitor on Ubuntu? It thinks I have a "default CRT".. can't config the resolution.
[01:43] <sethk> sladen, hey, I'm completey objective and neutral about everything.  :)
[01:43] <blahh> im running the alternate on for the raid
[01:43] <khermans> mwe, yes
[01:43] <BryanJK> Does anyone here use TV TIME?
[01:44] <AaronCampbell> sladen: I've googled it on/off for over a week, and ALL I get are "ubuntu does ___, ___, ___ and RULES Fedora"  Not even any good comparisons
[01:44] <sethk> tylerl, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.  choose the middle level for monitor configuraiton difficulty.  then you can override.  say, for example, generic monitor that can do 1280x1024@60hz
[01:44] <blahh> do you think its bad to put /boot in the raid
[01:44] <blahh> and swap
[01:44] <sladen> AaronCampbell: perhaps you should go with those results then :)
[01:44] <sethk> blahh, swap you lose some performance, so that's a bit bad.  if you have another alternative for boot, you'll make your life a lot simpler by using it.
[01:44] <AaronCampbell> sladen: I'm just saying...I found no decent comparisons of the 2
[01:45] <sethk> AaronCampbell, do you have more specific questions?  we might be able to help, if you do.
[01:45] <sladen> docuk2: if you want verbose, remove 'quiet' from the kernel command line
[01:45] <sethk> AaronCampbell, there really is no real "which is better" answer, it depends on what you need, what you like, what hardware you have, etc.,etc.
[01:45] <sladen> AaronCampbell: sounds like it might be useful to do such a comparision yourself and post up the results
[01:45] <sethk> AaronCampbell, the truth is, for most purposes, it makes absolutely no difference whatsoever
[01:45] <sethk> AaronCampbell, which is why you don't find meaningful comparisons.  they are very close to identical in capabilities.
[01:45] <docuk2> sladen, is it possible to replicate a splash like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Knoppix-3.8-boot.png
[01:46] <dacableguy> AaronCampbell:  linux is really all about personal preference...some distros feel right, others dont...it really depends on you and what you like
[01:46] <sethk> AaronCampbell, that's not a popular answer here, perhaps, but it's a true one.
[01:46] <sethk> AaronCampbell, you really won't go wrong either way.  one thing, though
[01:46] <E_Presly> Can diffrent linux share same /boot partition? I was thinking about having both edgy and dapper.
[01:46] <jerryb> what package should I use with dapper to work with my ipod?
[01:46] <rooti1> hi, when i installed ubuntu, i had to configure some things that went into the xorg.conf ... and the system automatically detected my devices ... how can i do this again ? i screwed up my config, is there a way ?
[01:46] <sethk> AaronCampbell, #ubuntu is _definitely_ better than #fedora.  which can make a difference.
[01:46] <AaronCampbell> sethk: I'm a web programmer.  Mostly PHP.  I run a lot of Virtual Machines via VMWare, and I use a lot of Java apps (Eclipse, Zend IDE, etc)
[01:46] <sladen> docuk2: remove 'splash' from the kernel command line if you want text
[01:46] <dacableguy> E_Presly  - no, too many differences...you would have to dual boot
[01:46] <meheren> is there a command to show all disks... (hard drive cd floppy usb firewire...)
[01:46] <docuk2> sladen, right but i mean with the colors and images etc
[01:47] <sethk> AaronCampbell, I moved from fedora to ubuntu about 6 months ago, primarily because ubuntu does a better job for me with wireless lan setup.
[01:47] <sethk> AaronCampbell, for the kind of development you are talking about, there is really little difference.
[01:47] <jerryb> mheren fdisk -l
[01:47] <AaronCampbell> sethk: well, this is for my desktop...no wireless, but it does have 2 gigabit NICs
[01:47] <jerryb> meheren fdisk -l
[01:47] <sladen> docuk2: yes, the LSB init scripts could be modified.  Perhaps google to see if anyone has already done that
[01:47] <sethk> AaronCampbell, I have ubuntu here.  Some of my work machines are fedora because I don't choose the distro for all of them.
[01:48] <jerryb> all: what package should I use with dapper to work with my ipod?
[01:48] <meheren> jerryb, thx!
[01:48] <kuto2> how to install cde?
[01:48] <sethk> AaronCampbell, I think the ubuntu package manager is significantly better.
[01:48] <wastrel> ubunto
[01:48] <kitche> 4
[01:48] <E_Presly> dacableguy: Yes I was thinking about dualbooting but I have seperat boot partition and thought they couyld share?
[01:48] <dacableguy> jerryb:  you can use amarok, gtkpod...um...
[01:48] <kitche> umm stupid cat
[01:48] <AaronCampbell> sethk: any reason why?
[01:48] <sethk> AaronCampbell, and I would go with ubuntu, but, of course, I'm in #ubuntu and rarely in #fedora.
[01:48] <kuto2> please how do i install cde?
[01:48] <sethk> AaronCampbell, you mean why the package  manager is better?
[01:48] <kuto2> please how do i install cde?
[01:48] <AaronCampbell> sethk: yes
[01:48] <docuk2> sladen, i tried googling but am unsuccessful - you have any tips for the keywords? should i include 'lsb' for example?
[01:48] <Fireal> ALL:  what can play avi files, Divx is for windows?
[01:48] <sethk> AaronCampbell, I've found that rpm is more brittle.  It's quite easy to foul up the package database, and quite difficult to recover.
[01:48] <chorse> AaronCampbell: well, you can't really compare a sexy young girl with an old man with a beer belly and  a red hat
[01:49] <sethk> AaronCampbell, recovery is also quite difficult with dpkg, but it's less prone to breakage.
[01:49] <snerge> I have to agree with sethk
[01:49] <sladen> docuk2: lsb-init ubuntu color
[01:49] <dacableguy> E_Presly - i have never seen 2 distros share a boot partition...pretty sure you cant
[01:49] <Toma-> Fireal: xine, gxine, totem, mplayer? take your pick. just make sure you have w32codecs installed
[01:49] <Fireal> have all of 'em, think I should reinstall the w32codecs?
[01:49] <sethk> AaronCampbell, I really have no ax to grind, but it's partly a matter of personal preference, and so not quantifiable
[01:50] <kuto2> pls how do i install cde in ubuntu
[01:50] <snerge> sethk: and we're not even speaking about upgrading a 1 year old mysql ... :P
[01:50] <Toma-> Fireal: yeh. what type of divx is it?
[01:50] <AaronCampbell> thanks.  Now I just have to decide between KDE and Gnome
[01:50] <sladen> Fireal: have you followed one of the guides about installing extra stuff.  Are you on amd64 for instance?
[01:50] <Fireal> p.s. I own a copy of XP so I'm good legally
[01:50] <Toma-> kuto2: you actually want cde?
[01:50] <sladen> Toma-: divx == MPEG4
[01:50] <sethk> AaronCampbell, that's a real emotional issue for many people.  I prefer KDE, but I'm a definite minority in this channel.
[01:50] <chorse> Fireal: install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg and use totem.
[01:50] <Toma-> sladen: divx, xvid, divx4, 5 etc
[01:51] <sladen> AaronCampbell: Which colour do you prefer, Blue, or Brown?
[01:51] <wastrel> install both
[01:51] <Toma-> lots of perversions of the original! :D
[01:51] <sethk> Fireal, I have no idea if owning a windows license is legally relevant.
[01:51] <wastrel> sladen:  there's blue versions of the human theme :]
[01:51] <AaronCampbell> sethk: that's because you would belong in #kubuntu right?  Is it better to install Ubuntu, and add KDE?  Or just use Kubuntu (are the ANY differences?
[01:51] <sladen> Toma-: they are all just MPEG4 *encoders*.  Any MPEG4 decoder will display the result fine
[01:51] <sethk> Fireal, knowing microsoft, they've most likely written the license in such a way that it isn't relevant.  Not that anyone is going to hunt you down for installing codecs.
[01:51] <E_Presly> dacableguy: Ok thanks
[01:52] <danl> I have a question concerning servlets and tomcat, when you deploy your servlet, does it deploy all class files in the classes folder, or does it only deploy the one on the web.xml file?
[01:52] <sethk> AaronCampbell, no differences at all.  I install the base ubuntu, without a desktop, and then install kde.
[01:52] <sethk> AaronCampbell, and my box says "kubuntu" on the splash screen.  the only difference is the default desktop.
[01:52] <Fireal> sladen: nope reg processor, totem didn't work
[01:52] <AaronCampbell> sethk: got it...I have both CDs....but I guess it doesn't matter
[01:52] <aggrimes> all - (sort of new to linux and ubuntu) I have Ubuntu dual booting with Mac OSX on a G4 powerbook - all worked fine and great, until I installed Network Manager.  Now, it seems to be hijacking all my system resources, or something - I can't open any other programs, not even the system monitor, not even a terminal; is there a keystroke for emergency kill in Ubuntu, or something like that?  Anything else I should do?  thanks -
[01:53] <kuto2> is there CDE for ubuntu
[01:53] <sethk> AaronCampbell, never hurts to have a backup.  :)
[01:53] <sethk> kuto2, there are some CDE for linux systems, although I have to admit it's been about two years since I saw one.
[01:53] <Vuen> hey #ubuntu, why is aMSN so ugly? the fonts are all jagged and the dialogs are blocky.
[01:53] <sethk> kuto2, do you want CDE because you are familiar with using it?
[01:54] <sethk> kuto2, the CDE implementations that I have seen are not free.
[01:54] <wastrel> aggrimes:  you might try ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X, since network-manager was started by gnome it should kill the daughter process.
[01:54] <AaronCampbell> sethk: I suppose I might as well use the Kubuntu CD though...if there's no difference.  I know that about a year ago when I had to switch to Windows, I preferred KDE to gnome...just liked the feel better.  Not much else to it.
[01:54] <sethk> kuto2, KDE sort of started out as CDE for linux, but that was many years ago and not really relevant.
[01:54] <wastrel> aggrimes:  or try ctrl-alt-f1 to drop to terminal, in case it's just X windows that isn't working.
[01:54] <sethk> AaronCampbell, I like the fact that I can resize windows with alt-right-click
[01:55] <sethk> AaronCampbell, that probably sounds a bit dumb, but it makes a big difference to me.
[01:55] <sethk> AaronCampbell, I'm told that there is a way to get gnome to do that, by the way, but I've never tracked it down.
[01:55] <aggrimes> wastrel - how do I start X back up once I kill it?
[01:56] <AaronCampbell> I'm just dying to have multiple desktops again.  I run 2 monitors, and I still feel limited on Windwos...because of the lack of good multi-desktop implementation
[01:56] <sethk> AaronCampbell, KDE has the dual desktop configuration built into their config dialogs, which is a nice feature
[01:56] <sethk> AaronCampbell, both gnome and kde do multiple logical desktops, of course.
[01:56] <wastrel> aggrimes:  it should restart automatically, but if not you'll get a terminal, just login & type startx  or sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start
[01:57] <wastrel> how's litestep anymore for 'doze?
[01:57] <Comrade_S> litestep is now too bloated
[01:57] <wastrel> played around with it in 98 or so when i had win95 heh
[01:58] <blahh> sethk if i reinstall ubuntu from my alternate cd then put in the livecd would u help me out setting up my bootloader
[01:59] <sethk> blahh, sure, I'll try, and so will other people here.  If you are installing it to somewhere not RAID, I can surely help you.  Installing to RAID, I can't really promise that I can make it work.
[01:59] <aggrimes> wastrel - okay, thanks; one other thing - Network Manager was added to system > preferences > sessions >startup programs upon install.  Does that mean it'll just start back up once X is restarted?
[01:59] <Toma-> AaronCampbell: e17 has some fancy multiple desktop settings
[01:59] <blahh> no ill do the same patern ill create a /boot outside the raid
[01:59] <dacableguy> aggrimes - yes
[01:59] <Vich> omg paradox
[01:59] <AaronCampbell> sethk: and the only CD that I should need to install (K)Ubuntu is the 6.10-desktop-i386 (assuming i386 is right for me)?  No DVD or 5 CD set?
[01:59] <wastrel> oopsy catch-22
[02:00] <Vich> ubuntu joined itself
[02:00] <aggrimes> right...
[02:00] <sethk> AaronCampbell, not needed, it will download everything else from the 'net.
[02:00] <ubuntu> I have a question
[02:00] <aggrimes> is there a way to edit the startup programs outside of X?
[02:00] <dacableguy> ubuntu:  dont ask to ask...just ask
[02:00] <wastrel> aggrimes:  ~/.config/autostart/  is where these things are kept, I believe.   if you manage to drop to terminal (ctrl-alt-F1 ?) you coudl remove it ...
[02:00] <sethk> aggrimes, of course.  You can do _everything_ both inside and outside X
[02:01] <secretum> I wasnt asking if i could ask
what do you want?
[02:01] <secretum> just stating
[02:01] <sethk> aggrimes, one of the big advantages to a properly layered system.  (As opposed to a certain improperly layered system we might mention.)
[02:01] <Station> has anyone gotten ubuntu to display at 1320x768 resolution?
[02:02] <sethk> Station, yes, but whether it can be done depends on the graphics adapter.  It's either perfectly simple, or impossible.
[02:02] <sethk> Station, and since you are apparently having problems, I'd guess the latter.
[02:02] <Jhonathan> server irc.bluenet.com.br
[02:02] <dacableguy> secretum:  ask away
[02:02] <sethk> Station, to be sure, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, choose the middle difficulty level for monitor configuration.  that will list all available resolutions.
[02:02] <Station> graphics adapter?  I just recently enabled my nvidia card, so i figured it wouldn't be too hard
[02:02] <blahh> just need to burn the desktop cd
[02:03] <sethk> Station, shouldn't be hard at all.
[02:03] <aggrimes> Anybody know if on a Mac keyboard the option key = alt in Linux?
[02:03] <sethk> Station, run that program, and you'll see the list of available resolutions.  then select and unselect the ones you want and don't want.
[02:03] <secretum> I am testing the live cd right now, both edgy and dapper, but I have a problem.  Edgy will not let me switch to my normal resolution, 1280x1024, where dapper lets me.  I was wondering if I installed Edgy, would it make me use 1024x768, or is there a fix?
[02:03] <Zer0Her0> aggrimes: yes
[02:04] <aggrimes> okay - thanks all
[02:04] <sethk> secretum, once you install you'll be able to do it in edgy.
[02:04] <Toma-> secretum: the live cd is fairly limited with resolutions.
[02:04] <secretum> Oh, OK, thanks
[02:04] <sethk> secretum, what toma- waid
[02:04] <sethk> said
[02:04] <sethk> whatever
[02:04] <Toma-> :>
[02:05] <secretum> what is the Linux equivalent of Ctrl-Alt-Del?
[02:06] <nolimitsoya> secretum, there is none
[02:06] <Nchalada> Mornin'
[02:06] <secretum> how do I force quit a program then?
[02:06] <nolimitsoya> secretum, kill <pid>
find pid, kill
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> secretum: You could assign a shortcut to the system monitor if you wanted a similar behaviour I suppose
[02:06] <secretum> where can i find the pid
[02:06] <Station> sethk: it didn't seem to offer me different levels of difficulty for the configuration
[02:07] <sethk> secretum, you can kill by name with     killall
[02:07] <k1piee> Hello
[02:07] <snerge> secretum: ps -ef
[02:07] <rsteele> yo
[02:07] <DaReD3ViL> Hello, i am wanting to setup a VPN on ubuntu. Can someone help me with doing this and i would like to know what is required (shell servers?).
[02:07] <weezl> hi, i have a seriously annoying problem. if i login to a session i have ~100% cpu usage, if i restart x with ctrl-alt-backspace and relog, its working fine, but next time i relog its 100% cpu usage again... until i restart the whole system and redo the procedure
[02:07] <k1piee> ok
[02:07] <rsteele> secret
[02:07] <sethk> Station, it's specifically for the monitor configuration, you won't see it until you go past all the screens for the adapter
[02:07] <Station> now i have to choose mouse protocol between ImPS/2 and ExplorerPS/2
[02:07] <nolimitsoya> secretum, or if you are in a graphical enivironment, you type xkill in a terminal, and click the window yo want to kill
[02:07] <wastrel> system > preferences > system monitor    is probably what you're looking for secretum   or the command line method others are talking about.
[02:07] <secretum> ok, i am in gnome
[02:07] <sethk> Station, if you have a USB wheel mouse, use ImPS/2
[02:07] <Station> thanks
[02:07] <nolimitsoya> secretum, then start a terminal, and type xkill
[02:08] <secretum> system preferences system monitor, got it, thanks
[02:08] <nolimitsoya> secretum, you mouse pointer will turn into a skull, and just click the program you want to kill will that skull
[02:08] <dvdogrila> did anyone have issues booting the unbuntu install cd, when the gui starts i  get a out of range on my monitor happens on two different lcds. is there a way to fix this. i tried safe graphics mode and that does nothing.
[02:08] <Beforewisdom> Ubuntu now has its own usenet group:
[02:08] <Beforewisdom> alt.os.linux.ubuntu
[02:08] <Beforewisdom> You can ask Google to include on its Google Groups site along with other linux usenet groups by filling out the web form here:
[02:08] <Beforewisdom> http://groups.google.com/support/bin/request.py
[02:09] <weezl> anyone?
[02:09] <secretum> yay i killed it, thanks
[02:09] <Toma-> spam?
[02:09] <Beforewisdom> nou, communication
[02:09] <Beforewisdom> nou, communication
[02:09] <sethk> dvdogrila, use text mode install from the alternate cd
[02:09] <Beforewisdom> Letting you guys know
[02:09] <dvdogrila> ok ty
[02:10] <Beforewisdom> Later
[02:10] <weezl> why do i always get ignored on ubuntu channels ? Oo
[02:10] <byteshack> my sound doesn't work with edgy, are there known issues with sound?
[02:11] <crimsun> byteshack: yes.
[02:11] <secretum> If you are running the live cd, is it possible to get to your windows hard drive
[02:11] <byteshack> crimsun: got a handy pointer to doco?
[02:12] <Station> sethk: it sill hasn't asked me for a difficulty , but i am now choosing resolutions to allow
[02:12] <sethk> secretum, yes.  you can mount the windows partitions
[02:12] <Station> 1320x768 is not there
[02:12] <sethk> secretum, ntfs read only, vfat either read only or read/write
[02:12] <crimsun> byteshack: all the bug reports against alsa-driver and linux-source-2.6.17[ pertaining to audio] ?
[02:12] <sethk> Station, that means that the nvidia driver is not reporting it as a possible resolution.
[02:12] <sethk> Station, do you know if you are using the nvidia proprietary driver, or the open source nv driver?
[02:12] <secretum> how, because it gives an error when i click on it in the file manager
[02:13] <Akuma_> anyone knows why i can boot the x86 cd but not x64? cpu = amd turion 64
[02:13] <sethk> Station, regardless, if one doesn't give you the resolution you want, try the other
[02:13] <Station> damn, i assume it then becomes extremely difficult, if even possible, to get it to work.
[02:13] <weezl> great
[02:13] <tylerl> I just edited my xorg.conf file, and added 1280x1024 to each of my display settings, however it loads in 1024x768 and wont give me the option to put it higher. Why?
[02:13] <Station> try the other what/
[02:13] <sethk> Station, the other driver.  there are two
[02:13] <sethk> Station, the open source driver, nv, doesn't do 3d.
[02:13] <secretum> sethk: how, because it gives an error when i click on it in the file manager
[02:13] <Akuma_> tylerl: did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[02:13] <sethk> Station, the other one, named nvidia, does 3d and isn't open source.
[02:14] <tylerl> Akuma_: Yeah.  I'll do it again I guess
[02:14] <Station> the nvidia driver is what I have installed
[02:14] <sethk> secretum, either run the file manager as root (using sudo), or, more easily, bring up a terminal window and use the mount command with sudo
[02:14] <Akuma_> tylerl: thats what finally set the right resolution in my case... just though i'd point it out
[02:14] <secretum> thanks
[02:14] <Station> with the 3d.  I didn't know the nv driver didn't do 3d.  Interesting.
[02:15] <Akuma_> tylerl: when it asks for the resolution, make sure you select only the one you want...
[02:15] <Station> I suppose I may have to settle for 1280x768, then.
[02:15] <tylerl> Akuma_: Ok.  I have a standard monitor.. so above 1024x768 would be... 1152x864?
[02:15] <tylerl> Akuma_: Followed by... 1280x1024?
[02:16] <secretum> sethk: what do i type, i am a newbie to linux, sorry
[02:16] <Akuma_> tylerl: i'm always on 1400x1050 .. i kinda get lost with all those numbers too so..
[02:16] <eobanb_> tylerl, 1280 x 960.
[02:16] <tylerl> Akuma_: Haha
[02:16] <khirr> how can i open Terminal since any folder?
[02:16] <tylerl> eobanb_ thanks
[02:16] <lullabud> wow... ubuntu supports GFS.  freakin rad
[02:16] <LGKeiz> uhm I got a question, how would I setup my wireless connection to work on ubuntu, -is completely new-
[02:17] <Akuma_> tylerl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution
[02:17] <Crescendo> GFS being Google File System...?
[02:17] <sethk> secretum, if your windows partition is the first partition on IDE Primary master, you would do something like this:   mkdir /mnt/ntfs         then, on the next line            sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs
[02:17] <lullabud> Crescendo:  global file system
[02:17] <jshadow> does anyone know how to use the tap-plugins with gstreamer, or to what extent this is possible?
[02:17] <Crescendo> Ahh.
[02:17] <lullabud> Crescendo:  the RHEL enterprise touted clustering filesystem
[02:17] <lullabud> freakin aaaaawesome
[02:17] <sethk> secretum, you probably need sudo with the mkdir command also:   sudo mkdir /mnt/ntfs; sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs
[02:17] <LGKeiz> Im getting error  SIOCGIFFLAGS error: no such device, could anyone please help me/
[02:18] <LGKeiz> when trying to setup my wireless connection ;p
[02:18] <sethk> secretum, you mount to any empty directory, so the name /mnt/ntfs is just an example.  the /dev/hda1 part has to match.  /dev/hda1 assumes first partition on first IDE disk.
[02:18] <lullabud> LGKeiz:  that would happen when you're trying to do wireless networking on a device that doesn't support wireless.
[02:18] <lullabud> LGKeiz:  try `iwconfig` and see what it tells you.
[02:18] <Akuma_> anyone knows why i can boot the x86 cd but not x64? cpu = amd turion 64
[02:19] <secretum> sethk: this comes back  mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[02:19] <LGKeiz> lullabud this is a laptop =o sec
[02:19] <lullabud> sethk:  are you sure it's /dev/hda?  could be /dev/hdb or /dev/sda
[02:19] <sethk> secretum, ok, then it's not the first partition on IDE primary master.  IDE primary master may or may not exist (it could be a cd drive, and not have a partition table)
[02:19] <sethk> secretum, try /dev/sda1, which is good for first partition on the first SATA disk
[02:20] <sethk> secretum, or as lullabud said, might be the second drive.  do you know?
[02:20] <LGKeiz> eth0 - no wireless  extensions, what do I do?
[02:20] <tylerl> Akuma_: It worked!
[02:20] <LGKeiz> It's build into the system the wireless card
[02:20] <Station> i restarted X and I didn't even get my 1280x768 resolution...
[02:20] <Akuma_> tylerl: good =)
[02:20] <Station> which i selected during the configuration.
[02:21] <tylerl> Akuma_: My laptop is docked, so I can use this Dell LCD.. i wonder what will happen if i undock
[02:21] <secretum> sethk: i am pretty sure tat it is the first drive, i will try /dev/sda1
[02:21] <tylerl> Akuma_: Will it use the same settings?
[02:21] <secretum> that
[02:21] <Station> Should I try using the nv driver?  I'm not going to to need 3d support.  I'll still get the benefits of the graphics card when I'm playing video, right?
[02:21] <sethk> secretum, ok.
[02:21] <Akuma_> tylerl: try it
[02:22] <secretum> sethk: no error, now how do I get to it?
[02:22] <sethk> secretum, try  cd /mnt/ntfs
[02:22] <bobbyd> hi
[02:22] <sethk> secretum, you should also be able to find it in the file manager gui
[02:22] <secretum> ok
[02:22] <LGKeiz> So how would I fix it lullabud lol
[02:22] <lullabud> secretum:  try `sudo cfdisk -P s /dev/hda`
[02:22] <sethk> secretum, go to /, click mnt, etc.
[02:22] <tylerl> Akuma_: Since this is an LCD, is it possible to set a separate refresh rate for Vertical and Horizontal?
[02:22] <lullabud> LGKeiz:  i don't know, what did it say with iwconfig?
[02:22] <sethk> lullabud, I think he said it mounted after you told him to try sda1
[02:23] <lullabud> LGKeiz:  did it say anything had wireless?
[02:23] <wwwdotcom> hello
[02:23] <LGKeiz> eth1 - IEEE 802.11b/g etc etc
[02:23] <lullabud> sethk:  oh, thanks.
[02:23] <LGKeiz> Yeah eth1
[02:23] <byteshack> how do I get gnome to use alsa?
[02:23] <sethk> wwwdotcom, oh, no, a dot bomb.  take cover.     :))))
[02:23] <lullabud> LGKeiz:  so you can do iwconfig eth1
[02:23] <Akuma_> tylerl: that stuff is over my head, sorry
[02:23] <LGKeiz> yep
[02:23] <lullabud> LGKeiz:  `man iwconfig`
[02:23] <tylerl> Akuma_: :) Np.
[02:24] <LGKeiz> it said access point invalid, alright I'll see
[02:24] <LGKeiz> wow this looks hard
[02:24] <LGKeiz> o_O
[02:25] <dullard> I have just installed edgy. trying to compile I tiny test program gives me this: collect2: cannot find 'ld' ... ld is in my path... anyone any ideas as to whats wrong? (using gcc test.c and test.c contains hello world)
[02:27] <LGKeiz> so how would I configure this thing o.o;
[02:27] <sethk> dullard, just to double check, you did   sudo apt-get install build-essential  ?
[02:28] <gimmulf> what permissions should a folder on a server use if its suppose to store sent mails on an imap account?
[02:28] <sethk> dullard, try running the gcc command with -v, that will print out the command for each compiler stage.
[02:28] <gimmulf> 700?
[02:28] <sethk> dullard, it will tell you the name it thinks the ld program is.
[02:28] <dullard> sethk, I didnt do build-essential ... Im a ubuntu/debian noob
[02:28] <SpaceFrog> hi guys
[02:29] <dredhammer> how do i setup filesharing between two linux pcs?
[02:29] <sethk> dullard, do it, then try again.
[02:29] <SpaceFrog> i've just upgraded to Edgy, and i've noticed that all my fonts aren't as nice to look at in Firefox
[02:29] <aggrimes> thanks all - problems solved - see you
[02:29] <SpaceFrog> The bolded text is hard to read, etc
[02:29] <wastrel> SpaceFrog:  enable multiverse & install msttcorefonts
[02:29] <LGKeiz> SET failed on device eth0 - Operation is not permitted
[02:30] <SpaceFrog> thanks wastrel, i'll do that
[02:30] <sethk> SpaceFrog, check your X log, see if it is giving you font path errors.  check what wastrel said first, though
[02:30] <ryanakca> how do I change the expiry date on a gpg subkey?
[02:30] <dullard> sethk, gcc -v spits out a lot... build-essentail just added dpkg-dev
[02:30] <ryanakca> dredhammer: fish protocol...
[02:30] <LGKeiz> How do I configure my wireless network or whatever, I dont know what to do.
[02:30] <LGKeiz> >.<
[02:31] <sethk> dullard, the last line of gcc -v is all we care about
[02:31] <dredhammer> fish protocol?
[02:31] <ryanakca> !fish
[02:31] <ubotu> fish: a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.21.12-1 (edgy), package size 631 kB, installed size 2560 kB
[02:31] <ryanakca> or not
[02:31] <ryanakca> just a sec
[02:31] <charlie5> hi ... i inadvertantly deleted everything in /usr/local/info ... and now have trouble when instqalling packages which use 'info' ... is it possible to re-create the /usr/local/info dir structure to fix it ?
[02:32] <sethk> dullard, the last line of gcc -v should show the path to ld.  then you can do   ls -l whateverThePathIs, see if the file is there, executable, etc.
[02:32] <dullard> sethk, collect: cannot find 'ld' (-;
[02:32] <Anti-Tedd> Since when is 7.04 out?!
[02:32] <sethk> dullard, ok.  you said it is there.  did you do   ls -l /usr/bin/ld  ?
[02:32] <dullard> sethk, which ld gives me /usr/bin/ld
[02:32] <ryanakca> dredhammer: http://www.linux.org/lessons/short/fish/x24.html
[02:33] <coolpaul900> how do I get more resoltions to pick from?
[02:33] <sethk> dullard, if you run ld, what does it say?  it should say something like  no input files
[02:33] <dredhammer> ok thanks
[02:33] <dullard> sethk, yep
[02:33] <ryanakca> dredhammer: http://beranger.org/index.php?article=1229
[02:34] <ryanakca> dredhammer: last one is probably what interests you
[02:34] <coolpaul900> how do I get more resulotions to pick from?
[02:34] <sethk> dullard, hm.  the next logical step is to run gcc under strace.  something like:     strace -o strace.gcc -ff gcc -o test test.c
[02:34] <LGKeiz> dullard - I done man iwconfig but I still don't really understand what I need to do Lol..
[02:34] <sethk> dullard, that will give you tons of output, but it sounds as if you are knowledgeable enough to use it.
[02:34] <sethk> dullard, what you would do, then, is    grep ld  strace.gcc*
[02:34] <sethk> dullard, that will show you all the directories it is trying to find ld in.
[02:35] <dullard> sethk, I'm not as knowlegable as all that but I'll give it a go... shouldn't it just errm work?
[02:35] <sethk> dullard, I don't think so.  try it, though, I could be wrong.
[02:36] <LGKeiz> It's telling me Operation is not permitted..
[02:36] <sethk> LGKeiz, using sudo?  sudo iwconfig ............
[02:36] <ryanakca> how do I change the expiry date on a gpg subkey?
[02:37] <LGKeiz> lol now it's telling me Invalid argument lol
[02:37] <LGKeiz> sudo iwconfig eth0 key xxxxxxxxx
[02:38] <kmeyer> I had a power outtage, and all of a sudden the timing on everything is broken; the clock gains hours in minutes, games are on speed, keyboard refresh rate is uber high
[02:38] <kmeyer> probably hardware problem?
[02:38] <kmeyer> :p
[02:38] <dullard> sethk, ok I did the strace, I'm not sure what any of it means tho
[02:39] <LGKeiz> What am I doing wrong :o
[02:41] <sethk> dullard, do   grep -l ld strace.gcc*           that should list one file.  put that file onto the paste web site.
[02:41] <del4> does anyone know why after (apparently successfully) installing the drivers for my video card i still can't get dual monitor support?
[02:42] <sethk> dullard, it may list two files; if so, put them both up (on separate pastes)
[02:42] <sethk> del4, most likely you need to install the dual monitor support
[02:42] <sethk> del4, which video card do you use?
[02:42] <BigCanOfTuna> I'm having a hard time writing to my ubuntu NFS share. Strangely enough, if I 'touch test.txt', the file will be created, however, I can't write/append text to it (permission denied). Can someone take a look at my configs for me? Thanks:  http://sial.org/pbot/20934
[02:42] <del4> seth - yah i think that's likely it's an ati radeon something i am gonna go look for that dual monitor support now thanks :D
[02:42] <sethk> del4, xinerama is dual monitor support, independent of hardware.  twinview is a dual monitor thing specifically for nvidia.
[02:42] <DaReD3ViL> can anyone help me set up a VPN client/server connection?
[02:43] <suckamc> I'm trying to setup my grub bootloader. I can boot into ubuntu fine but when I try booting into XP i get error 18. I see it has something to do with having to many cylinders. I have XP on an sata drive (hd0,0) and I have ubuntu on a seperate sata drive (hd1,0). any ideas on how to get around this?
[02:43] <BDeeJay> I have a question if anybody could help me...... is it normal that in network manager I see a wired connection and I'm using an usb wireless adapter? Shouldn't I see wireless connection?
[02:44] <The_Dark_Side_Of> hello guys.. please.. how can i find the package that provides X file?
[02:44] <plugwash> BDeeJay does the connection work? if so i wouldn't worry about it
[02:44] <del4> seth, awesome.  i have found a how to on installing xinerama - nice 1 :D
[02:44] <BDeeJay> no, the connection doesn't work :
[02:44] <sethk> del4, good.
[02:44] <dullard> sethk, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30494/
[02:44] <sethk> suckamc, it is almost impossible that a problem on an SATA drive is related to the number of cylinders
[02:45] <sethk> let me check what error 18 means.
[02:45] <BDeeJay> i should connect to my wireless router before hoping
[02:45] <sethk> dullard, ok, hold on a moment
[02:45] <drbombay43_lapto> hello to all, I am installing ubuntu-6.10, and would like to know what size the partitions should be, there are five different people using the machine with three different window managers, I prefer FVWM and my daughter KDE every one else will be using gnome, please any advice in regards to a partitioning scheme will be appreciated
[02:45] <The_Dark_Side_Of> guys.. enyone knows a way to find out wich packages provides some file?
[02:45] <fukegirls> hello
[02:45] <Toma-> The_Dark_Side_Of: apt-file
[02:45] <ryanakca> dredhammer: it work?
[02:45] <sethk> suckamc, are you sure this is an SATA drive?
[02:46] <Toma-> you need to install it first tho
[02:46] <ryanakca> how do I change the expiry date on a gpg subkey?
[02:46] <The_Dark_Side_Of> Toma-, thank you very much :-D
[02:46] <s|k> how do I see what connections there are
[02:46] <s|k> to my computer?
[02:46] <sethk> suckamc, error 18 applies only to IDE drives, and only to older machines with brain dead BIOS.
[02:46] <sethk> s|k, netstat -a | egrep '^tcp'
[02:46] <suckamc> sethk: positive. considering its its hooked up by sata connections...
[02:46] <suckamc> I'm getting it in stage 1.5
[02:46] <Toma-> The_Dark_Side_Of: np. you need to install it then run 'apt-file update' then apt-file search filename.wow
[02:46] <s|k> sethk: thanks :)
[02:46] <sethk> suckamc, then the error number is bogus.
[02:46] <s|k> ssh isn't tcp though is it?
[02:46] <ryanakca> drbombay43_lapto: make sure you have a seperate partition for /home... how big is the HD?
[02:46] <sethk> s|k, yes, it is
[02:46] <fukegirls> any girls want see a big cock size 11 inch
[02:47] <s|k> oh okay thanks
[02:47] <sethk> s|k, ssh uses tcp port 22, by default
[02:47] <s|k> oh right
[02:47] <The_Dark_Side_Of> Toma-, hehehe.. yep.. i noticed it ain't on my system :-P
[02:47] <s|k> what is up with that fukegirls :/
[02:47] <sethk> s|k, if you use n, as in   netstat -na, you can grep for 22
[02:47] <durt> xmms shows a little yellow box with the name of the current song in the upper right corner of my screen. How do I get rid of it?
[02:47] <drbombay43_lapto> I have two drives for a total of 54 gigs hda 19 gigs and sda is 36
[02:47] <Toma-> The_Dark_Side_Of: it is an optional extra :D
[02:47] <sethk> !ops
[02:47] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[02:47] <suckamc> sethk: any ideas on how I can get this working? or get it to report a correct error
[02:47] <s|k> sethk: oh thanks
[02:47] <sethk> suckamc, hold on a moment, I have to look at something else for a minute.
[02:47] <LjL> what?
[02:47] <Hobbsee> sethk: >
[02:47] <Hobbsee> ?
[02:48] <nalioth> sethk: ?
[02:48] <s|k> ops look at what fukegirls said
[02:48] <Toma-> he just wanted to give you all a hug
[02:48] <juantao> Hello. Do you know of any application that would help a spanish speaker learn english ?
[02:48] <BDeeJay> where can I find a tool to change the type of my connection?  it should be wireless and not wired!
[02:48] <The_Dark_Side_Of> Toma-, if very useful.. should be included in synaptic/aptitude and by default on the system.... it would be ncie for other distros package system to have something similar
[02:48] <drbombay43_lapto> ryanakca, the home partition is a nfs from home gentoo server
[02:48] <sethk> spam, of the not family friendly type
[02:48] <Hobbsee> LjL: ?
[02:48] <nalioth> Hobbsee: it's gotten
[02:48] <sethk> I think he disconnected
[02:48] <Hobbsee> nalioth: i got him
[02:48] <sethk> nalioth, Hobbsee thanks
[02:48] <Toma-> The_Dark_Side_Of: its more of a tool for development, so not really needed
[02:48] <Hobbsee> i think LjL got someone else thoug;h
[02:48] <ryanakca> how do I change the expiry date on a gpg subkey?
[02:49] <caminomaster> hello
[02:49] <s|k> heh
[02:49] <caminomaster> how can I see or mount an .img ?
[02:49] <Hobbsee> s|k: sorry, LjL has bad aim :P
[02:49] <sethk> dullard, that can't be the only file.
[02:49] <s|k> it's ok
[02:49] <s|k> :P
[02:49] <Akuma_> i want to install ubuntu, but i already have an ntfs filesystem that takes the whole hd. will ubuntu play nice and format its own space without messing up the rest of the data?
[02:49] <digitalhav0c> is a there anyway to get rid of the of the away , connect mesg?
[02:49] <BDeeJay> no solution?
[02:49] <sethk> Akuma_, no
[02:50] <sethk> Akuma_, you have to use something like gparted or partition magic to make space
[02:50] <The_Dark_Side_Of> Toma-, i think it will be very useful for me.. i'm always looking for the "i provide this" package :-P. ohh. btw.... do you now if gnome-libs-devel has another name un ubuntu?
[02:50] <LGKeiz> urgh ok
[02:50] <LGKeiz> I get ACcess Point: invalid
[02:50] <LGKeiz> what do I do with that?
[02:50] <Akuma_> sethk: i see. thanks!
[02:50] <tyler> HI
[02:50] <Toma-> The_Dark_Side_Of: sometihng like libgnome-dev id say?
[02:50] <dullard> sethk, sorry I didnt notice there were 4 of them
[02:50] <tyler> SUP HOMMIS?
[02:50] <tyler> ??
[02:50] <LjL> !caps
[02:50] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[02:50] <tyler> ya thats so sweet
[02:51] <drbombay43_lapto> ryanakca, I also have windows installed on sdb also a 36
[02:51] <sethk> dullard, try   grep -l ld strace.gcc*          hopefully that will show you one, or two filenames.  you can paste all four if you like, but only the ones with ld are relevant at the moment.
[02:51] <s|k> say sethk thanks for your help so far, I'm just curious though how do I kill one of the connections now that I see it?
[02:51] <tyler> that was a accident
[02:51] <tyler> sorry
[02:51] <tyler> 'dont get mad at me its my first time on this chat
[02:51] <The_Dark_Side_Of> Toma-, i installed libgnome2-dev but didnt provide the file i actually need (gnomeConf.sh), do you think installing libgnome-dev my provide it?
[02:51] <sethk>  s|k you can  do   netstat -nap | grep whatever.        to find the process.  the p in -nap means list processes.  that will tell you what process you can kill to disconnect a particular connection
[02:51] <ryanakca> how do I change the expiry date on a gpg subkey?
[02:52] <s|k> oh thanks sethk  :)
[02:52] <tyler> do any of u guys no any good screen recorders?
[02:52] <Toma-> The_Dark_Side_Of: firstly, what are you building? and have you tired apt-file yet?
[02:52] <LjL> !info istanbul | tyler
[02:52] <ubotu> istanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB
[02:52] <Toma-> tyler: xvidcap?
[02:53] <Station> well, i've somehow managed to get a widescreen resolution set, even though it's slightly too wide for the screen and the very left edge of my dektop panels are off the screen.
[02:53] <The_Dark_Side_Of> Toma-, i am building an app called "guituner", apt-file is downloading stuff yet...
[02:53] <dullard> sethk, I pasted a more interesting looking one on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30494/
[02:53] <dullard> sethk, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30495/ even
[02:53] <sethk> dullard, ok
[02:53] <Toma-> The_Dark_Side_Of: just wait for apt-file ;D
[02:53] <tyler> hi i have been havin trouble installing stuff can any of u help?
[02:54] <s|k> I had to use sudo to find the processes :0
[02:54] <The_Dark_Side_Of> Toma-, hehehe.. allright :-),.. and again.. thank you a lot for your help.
[02:54] <LjL> The_Dark_Side_Of: gtkguitune?
[02:54] <Toma-> np
[02:54] <tyler> plz help
[02:54] <apokryphos> !helpme
[02:54] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:54] <BDeeJay> where should I start to find If I get wired connection instead of wireless connection with my usb wireless adapter?
[02:55] <The_Dark_Side_Of> LjL, no... "guituner"... i find gtkguitune a bit innacurate.....
[02:55] <sethk> dullard, do you see all those attempts to start the ld program?  It sounds like, perhaps, you don't have the ld program installed that gcc is expecting.  Because it's legal to have multiple versions of ld on a box (usually for cross compiling but possibly for having more than one version of the compiler installed), the path to ld is compiled into gcc
[02:55] <The_Dark_Side_Of> LjL, i am trying other stuff for tuning..
[02:55] <LjL> The_Dark_Side_Of: suppose you tried tuneroid as well, it's in the edgy repos
[02:55] <sethk> dullard, so, if that _particular_ ld is not on the machine, it will fail, even though there may be a perfectly good, usable ld in /usr/bin
[02:55] <sethk> dullard, see if /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu exists.
[02:55] <LjL> The_Dark_Side_Of: err sorry i meant lingot - tuneroid is another, for KDE, and not in the repos =)
[02:55] <suckamc> any ideas why Grub would be throwing Error 18 on set 1.5 for an sata drive?
[02:56] <Cuog_422> i cannot save files to my own directory in ubuntu, is there a command to give my user more permission?
[02:56] <The_Dark_Side_Of> LjL, ohh no.. but you came in a very good time :-D let me check out.... altough i never heard of that (or saw about it no the net)
[02:56] <dullard> sethk, sounds like a reasonable explaination... but how did that happen??
[02:56] <The_Dark_Side_Of> LjL, so.. lingot is the one?? does it uses gtk, qt or console?
[02:56] <LjL> The_Dark_Side_Of: gtk
[02:56] <deviated> wow
[02:56] <The_Dark_Side_Of> LjL, nice..
[02:56] <LGKeiz> Who here can help me setup a wireless connection, I have a laptop with ubuntu installed, I click activate, then I click the icon where the system clock I active the  Wireless connection eth1 then I click the icon, and it gives me no such device, and than it saids the wireless connection is not active..
[02:56] <The_Dark_Side_Of> LjL, let me grab it :-D
[02:57] <sethk> dullard, I'm not sure.  possibly because you installed gcc first.  If you install build-essential, you get a consistent set of compiler/binutils.  However, the correct binutils should have been installed as a dependency of gcc, so that doesn't really explain it.
[02:57] <ryanakca> how do I change the expiry date on a gpg subkey?
[02:57] <sethk> dullard, try to install build-essential with the reinstall flag.
[02:57] <sethk> dullard, let me look that up...
[02:57] <KHatfull> Can anyone stomach an nvidia driver question?
[02:57] <dullard> sethk, that sounds sensible
[02:57] <sethk> dullard, sudo apt-get --reinstall install build-essential
[02:57] <KHatfull> Greetings BTW, just came over from #ubuntuforums
[02:58] <sethk> dullard, there are other flags to force things to be installed, even if the package manager thinks they are already there.  but try that one first, it's the simplest
[02:58] <deviated> sethk: are you still there, while reinstalling it via alternate cd seems like it didnt had any trouble installing grub this time but id like to make sure everything is ok, can you help me to check it out like if the raid and grub are installed properly
[02:58] <Akuma_> how big should the linux-swap be?
[02:58] <LjL> The_Dark_Side_Of: http://zyzstar.kosoru.com/?tuneroid has other links as well
[02:58] <sethk> dullard, and also, because I install gcc from source, I'm not the best one to track down package manager dependency issues.
[02:58] <LGKeiz> Who here can help me setup a wireless connection, I have a laptop with ubuntu installed, I click activate, then I click the icon where the system clock I active the  Wireless connection eth1 then I click the icon, and it gives me no such device, and than it saids the wireless connection is not active... O
[02:58] <LGKeiz> I read man iwconfig
[02:58] <Austin_> is there a way to save this channel as a favorite
[02:58] <sethk> deviated, sure, I can try, and other people here will also, but if it's working, what's to check?
[02:59] <Andypat10> !sound
[02:59] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:59] <LjL> The_Dark_Side_Of: (but as far as the stuff that's in the repos is concerned, i think lingot and gtkguitune is all there is)
[02:59] <sethk> deviated, the best check of grub is, if the machine boots, grub is ok.  :)
[02:59] <Cadteach> Hi All
[02:59] <The_Dark_Side_Of> LjL, thank you very very much dude.... i never saw lingot anywhere..
[02:59] <deviated> i wanna make sure my raid0 is ok and grub is loading the raid correctly.. im just a little bit septik since it didnt work the 3 times i tried before and suddenly it worked
[02:59] <deviated> what about the raid
[02:59] <The_Dark_Side_Of> LjL, i saw it.. it seems very fine.. and configurable too.. let me hook the mic and try it..
[03:00] <deviated> is there anyway to check it out
[03:00] <LjL> The_Dark_Side_Of: well, "apt-cache search tuner" does show it ;-P
[03:00] <del4> i need to edit my xorg.conf to add my video cards, how do i access it please?
[03:00] <kamui> does they synaptic entry in my xorg.conf what allows my touchpad's side scrolling feature to work?  Can I remove it?  I think its whats making my touchpad move erraticly
[03:00] <The_Dark_Side_Of> LjL, never did that (ok.. hammer me now :-P)... hehe.. just still with the old references i knew from the past
[03:00] <dullard> sethk, that didn't fix it... *blub* how can the compiler be broken
[03:00] <lullabud> kamui:  there's a tool to edit the behavior of the synaptic touch pad.
[03:01] <totall_6_7> here is a question for anyone who may care to answer. I am going to show something that every script seems to have. Can someone tell me why it says unstable
[03:01] <totall_6_7> [ OS: ]  testing/unstable Kernel: 2.6.15-27-386 | XOrg: X Window System Version 7.0.0  | KVirc: 3.2.0
[03:01] <lullabud> kamui:  i forgot the name of it though.  try `apropos synaptic`
[03:01] <Yourname> Hi, I don't have an internet connection, and I wanna apt-get install linux-wlan-ng, and it seems to want to connect to the net to get it. How can I make it to get it from CD?
[03:01] <Cadteach> del4: Do you know which text editor you use?
[03:01] <The_Dark_Side_Of> LjL, wow dude.. tuneroid looks real good on the screenshot..
[03:01] <|thunder> is there a way to 'AutoMount' all available hard drives while running live-cd ?
[03:01] <lullabud> Yourname: apt-cdrom
[03:01] <LGKeiz> eth1   IEEE 802.11b/g EEESID:"alien" Nickname:"Broadcom 4318" Mode: managed Access Point: invalid, Bit rate=1MB/s RTS thr:off Fragment: off Link Quality: 0 Signal Level: 0 Noise level: 0 Rx invalid nwid: 0 Rx invalid crypt: 0 Rx invalid frag: 0 Tx excessive retries: 0 Invalid misc: 0 Missed beacon: 0
[03:01] <LGKeiz> thats what it saids
[03:01] <sethk> dullard, pretty easily, actually.
[03:01] <del4> cadteach i am using gedit
[03:01] <Yourname> lullabud: Lemme try, thanks.
[03:01] <LGKeiz> I typed it out manually, someone gotta help me get this working.. >.>
[03:01] <sethk> dullard, at this point I should defer to someone who knows the package manager better than I do.
[03:02] <Yourname> lullabud: It says E: Invalid operation install
[03:02] <sethk> dullard, I assume you did the standard stuff, as in, removing comments from repository lines, and running sudo apt-get update    ?
[03:02] <Cuog_422> how do i give a user permissions to read/write etc to any file?
[03:02] <Cadteach> Do you know where the config resides?
[03:02] <suckamc> sethk: any ideas on that boot error?
[03:02] <lullabud> Yourname:  no, you add the cdrom to the apt repository using apt-cdrom, then you install it with apt-get
[03:02] <LGKeiz> Heroes is on..
[03:02] <sethk> suckamc, I haven't had a chance to glance at the code yet.  Reinstalling grub is probably worth a try.
[03:02] <LjL> The_Dark_Side_Of: well look at this page if you want to try tuneroid out perhaps http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtuneroid/  -  it should be the same as normal tuneroid, except it only depends on Qt and not on KDE
[03:03] <Yourname> lullabud: Lemme try, lol thanks.
[03:03] <Kingsqueak> Cuog_422: you set that by the permissions on the files/directories themselves or you run the command as root
[03:03] <dullard> sethk, I think I may as well reinstall the system and start things off with apt-get install build-essentials
[03:03] <suckamc> sethk: i have tried reinstalling grub.. 3 times now
[03:03] <Cuog_422> ok what command
[03:03] <quintin> Why can I not set files to open with mplayer?  they all want to open with toem
[03:03] <deviated> is there any little command that will return the raid status
[03:03] <lullabud> Cuog_422:  your best bet is to give that user sudo access.
[03:03] <quintin> totem
[03:03] <quintin> I f**ing hate totem
[03:03] <del4> cadteach i am just running a search for it now
[03:03] <sethk> suckamc, ok.  if twice doesn't work, neither will three times.
[03:03] <Kingsqueak> Cuog_422: chmod is the command
[03:03] <Cuog_422> ok
[03:03] <apokryphos> quintin: language please
[03:04] <quintin> apokryphos: bite me.
[03:04] <sethk> suckamc, there are some known problems with sata, but this one doesn't sound like any of them to me.
[03:04] <Kingsqueak> Cuog_422: for a text file, to set it so anyone can read or write it, chmod 666 file.txt
[03:04] <totall_6_7> quintin: what files do you wish to open with mplayer
[03:04] <sethk> suckamc, did you google, check the posted ubuntu problems?   Is this with edgy, by the way?
[03:04] <del4> hmm i am not able to find xorg.conf by searching for it..
[03:04] <sethk> must be a full moon tonight
[03:04] <Austin_> anyone know a weebsite that teaches basic console commands?
[03:04] <Cadteach> del4: check in /etc/X11
[03:04] <jlow> are there any problems with Ubuntu Server and the Pac Digital Sata II cards?
[03:04] <suckamc> in my old setup I had to force a 1.5 mb speed do ton icompatabilty with th 3
[03:04] <dullard> sethk, thanks a lot for your help and well done with your multitasking
[03:04] <sethk> del4, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:04] <apokryphos> sethk: it is here ;-)
[03:04] <The_Dark_Side_Of> LjL, again.. thanks a lot.. i'll check them :-D
[03:04] <suckamc> but this one runs both fine..
[03:04] <Yourname> lullabud: Seems to be working, thanks bud!
[03:05] <LGKeiz> Yeah I give up
[03:05] <jlow> I'm having a server lockup once every 4 our 5 days or so.. CPU WAIT goes to max
[03:05] <del4> cadteach - found! ty!
[03:05] <LGKeiz> no one here is going to help me, and I've done all I could.
[03:05] <lullabud> del4:  if you use locate and you're not doing it as root it will leave out system files.
[03:05] <LGKeiz> >.>
[03:05] <Toma-> how do you get spell checking in abiword?
[03:05] <lullabud> Yourname: no problemo
[03:05] <Station> if it is possible to achieve a resolution of 1320x768, which is the native resolution of my HDTV, using my nvidia 7900GTO card, which is supported by nvidia's linux drivers, I would love to know how to do it, no matter how complicated it is.  :)
[03:05] <Alethes> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868
[03:05] <Alethes> anybody played with this?
[03:05] <Cadteach> del4: If it doesn;t save, you might have to change permissions?
[03:05] <Yourname> lullabud: I might be back ;)
[03:05] <del4> lullabud - thanks for the tip on locate i figured it was cuz it's a system file.
[03:05] <LGKeiz> lullabud, dude come on man, I've read the manual, I've explained the problem, yet no one here is going to answer me. >.>
[03:06] <lullabud> LGKeiz:  huh?
[03:06] <del4> cadteach - ok i have not had any problems i am just prompted for my pass when i try to change files like that.
[03:06] <Austin_> :(
[03:06] <lullabud> LGKeiz:  what was the problem?
[03:06] <LGKeiz> Who here can help me setup a wireless connection, I have a laptop with ubuntu installed, I click activate, then I click the icon where the system clock I active the  Wireless connection eth1 then I click the icon, and it gives me no such device, and than it saids the wireless connection is not active...
[03:06] <LGKeiz> eth1   IEEE 802.11b/g EEESID:"alien" Nickname:"Broadcom 4318" Mode: managed Access Point: invalid, Bit rate=1MB/s RTS thr:off Fragment: off Link Quality: 0 Signal Level: 0 Noise level: 0 Rx invalid nwid: 0 Rx invalid crypt: 0 Rx invalid frag: 0 Tx excessive retries: 0 Invalid misc: 0 Missed beacon: 0
[03:06] <LGKeiz> Im trying to connect to the wireless network
[03:07] <lullabud> LGKeiz:  what's the security of the AP?
[03:07] <LGKeiz> AP ?
[03:07] <LGKeiz> o.O