[06:44] <kalorin_> found USB scanner (vendor=0x0461 [Primax] , product=0x0360 [Colorado USB 19200] ) at libusb:001:009
[06:44] <kalorin_> I would be fine running _ANY_ app that would see the scanner at this point
[06:44] <kalorin_> gimp
[06:44] <kalorin_> kooka
[06:44] <kalorin_> whatever
[06:44] <wolferine> ok
[06:44] <kalorin_> none of them are seeing the device
[06:44] <wolferine> so xsane installed?
[06:44] <kalorin_> sure
[06:44] <kalorin_> well the package is
[06:44] <wolferine> k, open the package man. and install
[06:44] <lt> crypto: sorry about that, k at what point do things start straying for you with this doc?
[06:44] <wolferine> k
[06:44] <wolferine> now can you open xsane?
[06:45] <tony_> wolferine, i doubt it. it fell against the wall and has paint scratching on the top. but last month, i wasn't as big a linux user though
[06:45] <kalorin_> I don't have an xsane command
[06:45] <wolferine> and it sees a device?
[06:45] <kalorin_> I have xscanimage
[06:45] <kalorin_> but no xsane is found on my system
[06:45] <wolferine> tony_, if its Walmart they would take it :P
[06:45] <tony_> wolferine, no, newegg
[06:45] <crypto> well I have a Gateway,and somehow my card is listed as a Broadcom Dell 1390, so I followed the steps from the link and it didnt work
[06:45] <wolferine> kalorin_, can you install it then?
[06:45] <_Low_Key> DaSkreech_: any suggestions?
[06:45] <kalorin_> the package shows installed
[06:45] <wolferine> or you want to use those others?
[06:45] <kalorin_> I think
[06:46] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: A) keep a windows partition handy
[06:46] <kalorin_> sorry second
[06:46] <lt> crypto: so no errors with the howto, it just didnt work after you were done, right?
[06:46] <kalorin_> installing now
[06:46] <crypto> right
[06:46] <kalorin_> common was not the package itself
[06:46] <wolferine> ah
[06:46] <DaSkreech_> b) look into getting VS installed on Linux You can join irc.gnome.org and hop into #mono
[06:46] <kalorin_> ok
[06:46] <DaSkreech_>  they would be the greatest help
[06:47] <kalorin_> I run it, it says no devices were found
[06:47] <crypto> I blacklisted the default driver and somehow it says that I have it as an alternative
[06:47] <Stalk3r> wolferine:  didn't work
[06:47] <kalorin_> I run it sudo and same same
[06:47] <Stalk3r> guess I should have mentioned that I'm not a DHCP client
[06:47] <wolferine> Stalk3r, oh
[06:47] <Tired_> I'm having a bit of culture shock trying to troubleshoot things.  Can anyone recommend some reading on how to find logs and info in Kubuntu?
[06:47] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: Oh Bookmark that room. largest friendly store of .NET knowledge you are likely to find
[06:47] <crypto> when I installed kubuntu the driver was listed but couldnt connect, so now I only have the ethernet showing n now wireless
[06:47] <wolferine> Stalk3r, well, I am a bit tired, im gonna have to pass
[06:47] <wolferine> Stalk3r, sorry, and gl
[06:47] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: and start reading up on mono docs
[06:47] <Stalk3r> thanks anyway
[06:48] <_Low_Key> what is mono?
[06:48] <kalorin_> so sane seems to see it if I'm root, xsane says it doesn't
[06:48] <kalorin_> would on earth would cause that?
[06:48] <lt> crypto: have you reboot since you did, sudo modprobe ndiswrapper?
[06:48] <crypto> yeah
[06:48] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_%28software%29
[06:49] <Tired_> I'm sorta used to MMC, and I'm feeling kinda lost now.
[06:49] <lt> crypto: when you do lsmod, do you see ndiswrapper in there?
[06:50] <crypto> yeah
[06:51] <lt> crypto: when you do, sudo iwlist scanning, do you see anything?
[06:51] <Tired_> For example, KTorrent recently started hard-locking my system, and I would kinda like to track down the why.
[06:51] <kalorin_> ok wolferine, how would I tell which device this should be then with Sane?
[06:51] <Tired_> But ideally, I'd like to learn how to do it when any program starts messing up.
[06:52] <_Low_Key> DaSkreech_, thanks, but, I just want to get my homework done as quickly as possible. Im not a programmer at all. I just need the thing to work :)
[06:52] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: install mono
[06:52] <DaSkreech_> should be enough for you to get away with it
[06:52] <crypto> what do I have to do? "sudo iwlist"?
[06:52] <_Low_Key> Does it do C++?
[06:52] <wolferine> kalorin_, its installed?
[06:52] <kalorin_> yeah
[06:53] <lt> crypto: "sudo iwlist scanning"
[06:53] <wolferine> kalorin_, can you start it up?
[06:53] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: sure does
[06:53] <kalorin_> and I was going to go look at the /etc/sane.d stuff
[06:53] <kalorin_> and see about finding a conf file for it
[06:53] <kalorin_> it says it can't find anything
[06:53] <wolferine> kalorin_, fire it up
[06:53] <wolferine> k
[06:53] <wolferine> do this then
[06:53] <kalorin_> as root or not
[06:53] <crypto> lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[06:53] <crypto> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning
[06:53] <kalorin_> "not devices found"
[06:53] <wolferine> sudo sane-find-scanner
[06:53] <crypto> thats wat is says
[06:53] <kalorin_> k
[06:53] <wolferine> will give you the libusb
[06:53] <lt> crypto: k
[06:53] <kalorin_> found USB scanner
[06:53] <kalorin_> blah blah blah
[06:54] <wolferine> so do: xsane libusb:00*:00*
[06:54] <lt> crypto: when you do a "lspci" you should see your wifi card in there, what does it identify it as?
[06:54] <wolferine> when xsane starts up with that scanner, you want to save that setup in xsane
[06:54] <crypto>  Broadcom Corporation Dell Wireless 1390 WLAN Mini-PC
[06:54] <kalorin_> Failed to open device `libusb:001:009' invalid argument
[06:55] <wolferine> ugh
[06:55] <kalorin_> big red X
[06:55] <crypto> n I have a GAteway
[06:55] <wolferine> wait
[06:55] <lt> crypto: k
[06:55] <wolferine> i didnt something else
[06:55] <wolferine> did*
[06:55] <wolferine> one sec
[06:55] <kalorin_> in /etc/sane.d the hex code is in the genesys.conf file
[06:56] <kalorin_> but it doesn't list that colorado one for some reason
[06:56] <kalorin_> go figure
[06:56] <wolferine> kalorin_, whatsa your lsusb?
[06:56] <wolferine> just the one line
[06:57] <kalorin_> Bus 001 Device 009: ID 0461:0360 Primax Electronics, Ltd Colorado 19200 Scanner
[06:58] <wolferine>  scanimage -L
[06:58] <wolferine> this should list your device
[06:58] <kalorin_> No scanners were identified.
[06:58] <wolferine> paste it here
[06:58] <wolferine> oh?
[06:58] <wolferine> really
[06:58] <kalorin_> yeah
[06:58] <kalorin_> that's what I was saying it's like 1/2 found
[06:58] <kalorin_> really odd
[06:59] <kalorin_> let me unplug it for a minute and plug it back in and see if it helps it any
[06:59] <wolferine> closed xsane?
[06:59] <kalorin_> y
[06:59] <wolferine> yeah, give it a restart, lets see what happens
[06:59] <kalorin_> ok it's restarted
[07:00] <kalorin_> same result
[07:00] <kalorin_> sane-find-scanner shows it
[07:00] <kalorin_> scanimage -L no
[07:00] <kalorin_> and I did see in /var/log/messages that it'd seen a USB device plugged in
[07:00] <kalorin_> with the right time stamp
[07:00] <wolferine> right
[07:01] <wolferine> its just scanimage inst recognizng it
[07:01] <wolferine> so you want to start there
[07:01] <wolferine> i have to hit the hay
[07:01] <wolferine> work tmr....
[07:01] <wolferine> gl
[07:01] <kalorin_> sure
[07:01] <kalorin_> thanks man
[07:07] <yuri_> question to any digikam users, did you find out if it is possible to batch edit IPTC info?
[07:08] <reldruh> hi. I just upgraded to feisty, did a clean install and everything. Usually getting DVD playback is no problem but I can't seem to get it working this time around. Whenever I try in kaffeine i get the error message: "No plugin found to handle this resource (dvd:///dev/scd0)"
[07:09] <DaSkreech_> !dvd
[07:09] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:10] <kalorin_> and well ther eou go
[07:10] <_Low_Key> DaSkreech_: any suggested additional packages?
[07:10] <kalorin_> install the windows drivers and off to the scanning races :A(
[07:11] <kalorin_> disappointing
[07:12] <DaSkreech_> _Low_Key: Umm. there was a sharpdevelop or monodevelop I think
[07:12] <_Low_Key> k
[07:14] <reldruh> DaSkreech_: I've actually been through that guide with no luck. That's how I usually get dvd playback installed. It isn't working on feisty for some reason
[07:14] <lt> crypto: still lookin just work keepin me busy
[07:14] <LinkCanabico> Hi anyone intrested in testing a opengl joystic program i have just finished coding it on fedora and would like to know if it works on kubuntu
[07:14] <DaSkreech_> reldruh: You got the medibuntu repos ?
[07:15] <crypto> np bro, thanks for looking, I'm still trying to see if I can do something
[07:20] <cabajgtr> How do I force ownership and permissions on a directory (ie always chmod 666, regardless of who creates files)?
[07:20] <mat1980> cabajgtr, use umask
[07:21] <DaSkreech_> or superbit it
[07:21] <dsmith_> so has anyone upgraded from edgy to fiesty successfully?
[07:22] <starz> oi
[07:22] <starz> so xmms + feisty = no volume control from xmms.... how can i fix this?????????
[07:24] <starz> o gawd
[07:24] <dug> Im trying to build my collection database in amarok off my windows hdd, i have it shared via samba, but amarok will not complete, it goes to 94% then just stops. I've looked in the amarok files, and see my songlists there, but it will not load them. Any ideas, or tutorials that i can follow. I've googled as much as I can, but cant find the right keywords, not to sure what tree i should bark up.
[07:25] <starz> that was stupid... just had to adjust in alsa plugin configure properties from pcm to master - the name of it changed across distros or something
[07:26] <cabajgtr> Mat, if i put umask at the top of a bash script, will it affect all file creation following?
[07:26] <cabajgtr> I think I get what it does, just not how it is applied
[07:28] <mat1980> cabajgtr, I guess it will affect all file created, not only the one created by your script
[07:29] <mat1980> cabajgtr, to set all files to 666 use umask 111 directory
[07:30] <cabajgtr> so it will assign to a directory? does it affect all users?
[07:30] <mat1980> maybe I could be misunderstood, it will change mask only to files that will created.
[07:30] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[07:30] <mat1980> yes, it will affect all users
[07:31] <lt> crypto: k sorry about that, long call ><.  To be honest I was hopin your wifi problem would have been like the uphill battle i had with mine
[07:31] <DaSkreech_> MilhousePunkRock: yo
[07:31] <lt> crypto: but when it comes to ndiswrapper im pretty clueless
[07:31] <cabajgtr> excellent, it seems to be working
[07:31] <cabajgtr> thanks
[07:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Since upgrading to Feisty, my sound does not work anymore. Already did this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418360 No avail
[07:32] <lt> crypto: i was under the assumption that when you modprobe the ndiswrapper, it would start your wlan0 iface, which it didnt
[07:33] <mat1980> not at all! ;)
[07:33] <lt> crypto: makes you wonder if the ndiswrapper worked? or if it worked but there is some other step missing
[07:34] <lt> crypto: how many times did you have to run the, "sudo make uninstall"?
[07:34] <lt> crypto: did you just run it once?
[07:37] <crypto> I've done it a couple of times n this is what I get
[07:37] <crypto> make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'.  Stop.
[07:41] <mat1980> crypto, do you run 'make uninstall' from the source directory of ndiswrapper?
[07:42] <Dodger73> hi all
[07:42] <SubOne> how do i find out which sound driver im using?
[07:43] <Dodger73> i've got trouble getting quicktime video to work in firefox on feisty
[07:44] <crypto> I dont know how  to
[07:45] <lt> crypto: can you link that doc again, had to shutdown my vncsession and i lost that link
[07:45] <GWillakers> Dodger: what have you tried
[07:45] <GWillakers> ?
[07:45] <Dodger73> reinstalling the mozilla-mplayer plugin :)
[07:45] <GWillakers> is it supposed to have quicktime support?
[07:45] <DaSkreech_> !quicktime | Dodger73
[07:45] <ubotu> Dodger73: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:46] <crypto> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=297092&highlight=broadcom
[07:46] <Stalk3r> does anyone know why my apt-get tries to connect to IP <IP_ADDRESS> for all repositories?
[07:46] <Dodger73> i'll try that, thanks :)
[07:47] <kalorin_> what's the name of the cpu/memory graph thing that lives in your K menu?
[07:47] <kalorin_> anyone
[07:47] <lt> crypto: that `make uninstall`, has to be run where you extracted the ndiswrapper
[07:47] <DaSkreech_> Ksysguard ?
[07:48] <lt> crypto: i dont know if you saw that part right below it, where you have to run that until it says no files or directories found
[07:48] <Stalk3r> I mean it says 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[07:48] <crypto> yeah but I get the messages that I told u
[07:49] <lt> crypto: thats when i had to restart my vncserver so i didnt see the msg
[07:49] <kalorin_> DaSkreech_ yeah it's disappeared from the list of applets that I can put back on the menu
[07:49] <crypto> how do I do that?
[07:50] <lt> crypto: ah okkies
[07:50] <DaSkreech_> Not sure
[07:50] <lt> crypto: when you downloaded the ndiswrapper, the steps had you extract it
[07:51] <_Low_Key> DaSkreech, I got all that stuff installed. Is it a plugin, or a full interface?
[07:51] <lt> crypto: do this, `locate ndiswrapper-1.41`
[07:52] <crypto> "/home/crypto/ndiswrapper-1.41"
[07:53] <lt> crypto: okkies go to that dir in a terminal, and do the `sudo make uninstall` run that till it returns `no files or directories`
[07:53] <Stalk3r> I'm running Dapper, my eth0 is configured properly for a static IP and I'm using it to talk here with Konversation, I can run konqueror and browse anywhere I want, I can use Kopete to chat but I can't use apt-get, firefox and adept wouldn't connect to the internet, and I get that IP address error when I try and reinstall them with apt-get
[07:53] <crypto> NOTE: Not all installed files are removed, as different distributions install ndiswrapper files at different places.
[07:53] <crypto> Run uninstall as many times as necessary until no "removing" messages appear below.
[07:55] <lt> crypto: okkies just run the `sudo make uninstall`, till you dont see the "removing" after that note
[07:56] <lt> stalk3r: i had a issue like that, but it was because i had a 2 connections, do you have another interface besides eth0?
[07:56] <Stalk3r> no
[07:57] <lt> stalk3r: if you do `ifconfig`, you should just see eth0 and lo, right?
[07:57] <crypto> bro how many times I'm suppoes to do that? its still saying the same
[07:57] <Stalk3r> correct
[07:58] <lt> crypto: is it still saying 'removing' after that note you posted? or are you just getting that note?
[07:58] <crypto> I'm just getting that note
[07:59] <lt> crypto: okkies you dont have to run it anymore then
[07:59] <lt> crypto: try following that link you posted, after the `sudo make uninstall`
[07:59] <bumzo> hi good people of kubuntu
[08:00] <bumzo> now ... how do i format my external HDD ???
[08:00] <lt> crypto: also do a `sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper`
[08:00] <crypto> when? after I'm done?
[08:01] <lt> crypto: now will work
[08:01] <crypto> when do I type that?
[08:01] <crypto> after sudo make install?
[08:01] <lt> crypto: sure
[08:02] <lt> crypto: just need to remove the driver from the kernel before you insert it again
[08:02] <Stalk3r> hah!
[08:02] <Stalk3r> I fixed it
[08:02] <crypto> how do I do that>
[08:02] <crypto> *?
[08:02] <lt> stalk3r: wewts, what did you do?
[08:02] <Stalk3r> I removed my dsl router from my list of DNS servers and it's working fine.
[08:02] <lt> stalk3r: lol nice
[08:02] <Stalk3r> thanks, g'night
[08:03] <lt> crypto: just type in what i typed
[08:03] <crypto> I did
[08:03] <lt> crypto: `sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper`
[08:03] <Endler> Anyone running VirtualBox with an NVidia card?  VB works great under Kubuntu, but VB doesn't detect my 7600GS card, so I can only run a virtual windows machine at 800x600 with vanilla VGA driver.
[08:03] <lt> crypto: k then just keep followin the steps
[08:03] <kalorin_> endler: vmware
[08:04] <kalorin_> ok nighty
[08:04] <kalorin_> 2am, crazy
[08:04] <Endler> Why?   Does VB have known problems with NVidia cards, or something, because other than that, VB is running very smoothly and problem free.
[08:05] <lt> crypto: brb smoke break
[08:05] <bumzo> i need help here .... heloo
[08:05] <kalorin_> vmware just works, it's free
[08:05] <kalorin_> not sure about vb
[08:05] <Endler> And so is VirtualBox.
[08:06] <kalorin_> are you expecting to do FPS or something on it?
[08:07] <bumzo> how do i format a HDD
[08:07] <Endler> I'm not going anything super graphics intensive; I just want to get my full resolution.  My screen is 1600x1200, so a little 800x600 window kind of sucks.
[08:08] <crypto> lt: after I do: "sudo ndiswrapper -l" this is what I get:
[08:08] <crypto> bcmwl6 : driver installed
[08:08] <crypto>         device (14E4:4311) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)
[08:08] <kalorin_> endler, with vmware, i just set it to minimum size, run it, and use rdesktop to go to the machine and set htat desktop to whatever size i want
[08:08] <kalorin_> rdesktop if faster to update than the vmware server window
[08:09] <kalorin_> ok nighty
[08:10] <lt> crypto: thats fine for now since its using the bcmwl6 right now
[08:11] <Endler> OK, I think you can do that with VB too.   Seems a bit convoluted though, when you're actually on the same machine. :)
[08:11] <crypto> yeah but on the forum it says, "you should see a message that says driver present, hardware detected"
[08:12] <kalorin_> yeah kind of
[08:13] <crypto> I did a iwlist scanning and got the same
[08:13] <kalorin_> but you can set the rdesktop size to say 3200x1024 which is really nice with some of the lame windowz apps I have to use
[08:13] <lt> crypto: k
[08:13] <kalorin_> that break if you span monitors witht hem
[08:13] <kalorin_> this way it doesn't know it's spanning
[08:13] <kalorin_> :)
[08:13] <kalorin_> laters
[08:13] <lt> crypto: lets go back some steps, do the `sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper`
[08:14] <lt> crypto: then the `sudo make uninstall` till you just see the note msg
[08:14] <Endler> For remote sessions on actual remote machines, I'm used to using NX, which is amazingly fast, so I haven't been using any other remote clients/servers.
[08:14] <lt> crypto: after that do `sudo echo blacklist bcm43xx >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist`
[08:15] <lt> endler: been thinkin about switchen to NX, since vnc and fieste gnome, has a nasty bug ><
[08:15] <crypto> wait I forgot the directory of ndiswrapper
[08:17] <Endler> It is unbelievable how fast NX is compared to others.  You almost feel like you're sitting in front of the machine if you have a decent Internet connection on both ends.
[08:17] <Endler> It couldn't be easier installing on Kubuntu, either.
[08:18] <dac_> ? how big is NX
[08:18] <Endler> Not very big.
[08:19] <dac_> downloadable from where?
[08:19] <Endler> It channels everything through SSH
[08:19] <lt> endler: was there a site you used for a install walk through you could link?
[08:20] <Endler> Just download the Linux client, node, and server packages from nomachines.com.
[08:20] <Endler> and install them in that order.
[08:20] <Endler> If you have gdebi installed.
[08:20] <crypto> Permission denied
[08:20] <Endler> It's just one click, two clicks, three clicks, and you're done.  :)
[08:20] <dac_> ok
[08:21] <Endler> On the server side.
[08:21] <Endler> On the client side you only need to install the client.
[08:21] <Endler> Make sure you have SSH working first though.
[08:22] <dac_> ok
[08:23] <flowingfire> Hi can anybody help me with printing?
[08:25] <flowingfire> Anybody around?
[08:25] <flowingfire> hmm...... /join ubuntu
[08:26] <lt> flowingfire: havent done much with printing, sorry
[08:27] <hitmanWilly> ok, back now, NFS troubles w/ the lappy
[08:27] <flowingfire> thanks anyway lt... :) you're the only one to have responded thus far. :)
[08:27] <hitmanWilly> flowingfire: what's the problem?
[08:28] <flowingfire> Hi hitman willy
[08:28] <flowingfire> Umm.. Well, I printed a test page okay, but when I try to print from an application like Abiword
[08:28] <flowingfire> it doesn't print
[08:28] <flowingfire> I guess I don't know how to navigate this
[08:28] <lt> flowingfire: kicking it works well
[08:28] <flowingfire> lol 1t!
[08:29] <hitmanWilly> flowingfire: is kde set up for the printer?
[08:29] <flowingfire> Yep.  I have my HP PSC 1600 printer set up as the default printer
[08:30] <hitmanWilly> flowingfire: you may need to set up your non-kde apps as well, ie thru gnome's print system
[08:30] <flowingfire> Hmm.... Like, log on as gnome and set up the printer there too?
[08:31] <hitmanWilly> flowingfire: if you have gnome, then yes
[08:31] <flowingfire> the KDE printers thing shows my printer with 3 pending jobs.. it's just not printing them. lol
[08:31] <flowingfire> It says state: stopped: job-stopped
[08:31] <hitmanWilly> flowingfire: hmm...can you restart the job?
[08:32] <flowingfire> I just clicked resume on one of them and it did nothing
[08:32] <flowingfire> But it'll print a test page!
[08:32] <hitmanWilly> well, clear them out right quick and try setting up in gnome as well
[08:32] <flowingfire> Ok...Thanks. :)  I'll come back as soon as I'm done w/ that. :)
[08:32] <hitmanWilly> flowingfire: that's because the driver talks straight to the printer on that one
[08:33] <iga> why i can't install automatix2?
[08:34] <hitmanWilly> iga: that's a blessing in disguise...automatix breaks things
[08:34] <mcrandello> How can I make the following message go away: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lfreeglut
[08:34] <hitmanWilly> iga: anything automatix does for you can be done safer thru other methods
[08:34] <mcrandello> I've installed every glut dev package in the repos
[08:35] <iga> hitmanWilly: what methods?
[08:35] <hitmanWilly> iga: well, what do you want specifically? flash? mp3? dvd?
[08:36] <iga> flash,mp3,dvd,skype.
[08:36] <iga> some programming toolz
[08:36] <iga> some programming tools
[08:37] <hitmanWilly> iga: ok, first install the ubuntu-restricted-extras package, that takes care of mp3 and flash
[08:37] <hitmanWilly> !dvd | iga
[08:37] <ubotu> iga: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:37] <Endler> flowingfire, You might want to try setting/configuring cups directly via it's web page interface (localhost:631).
[08:37] <LinkCanabico> mcrandello also install freeglut and freeglut-devel
[08:37] <hitmanWilly> !restricted | iga
[08:37] <ubotu> iga: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:38] <mcrandello> LinkCanabico: freeglut3-dev et all are already installed
[08:38] <emonkey-p> ubuntu-restricted-extras is a good package too
[08:38] <hitmanWilly> iga: you can add skype through add/remove in the menu
[08:38] <iga> ok, thanx.  what about rar files?
[08:38] <LinkCanabico> are they linked corectly
[08:39] <hitmanWilly> iga: there's a couple progs to do it, unrar and unrar-free iirc
[08:39] <mcrandello> LinkCanabico: I don't know how to determine that
[08:39] <mcrandello> LinkCanabico: running ld -lfreeglut gives the same error
[08:40] <hitmanWilly> iga: plus i think ark does it natively
[08:40] <mcrandello> the configuration file is running "gcc -o conftest -g -O2    conftest.c -lfreeglut  -lSM -lICE" etc
[08:40] <LinkCanabico> sorry no more ideas can you tell me the context were i hapens
[08:41] <mcrandello> trying to run a configuration program for the program "makehuman"
[08:41] <zayb> does anybody know if this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html#dvdplayback is up to date for feisty?
[08:41] <flowingfire> Ok... Gnome looks like it's set up to print as well as KDE already
[08:41] <LinkCanabico> sorry no idea gl
[08:42] <iga> hitmanWilly: now i've been watching for skype in add/remove but i dont see it
[08:42] <mcrandello> I figured it was a problem perhaps with the program since it was from CVS and sometimes you get wacky stuff
[08:42] <LinkCanabico> let me check on my box
[08:42] <mcrandello> but checking around the web ld should be able to find freeglut if it and its dev package are on there
[08:42] <mcrandello> at least I'm led to beleive
[08:43] <flowingfire> Okay... I just successfully printed.... Huh.... I didn't do anything in particular in gnome.... Ahh well, problem solved1
[08:43] <hitmanWilly> !skype | iga
[08:43] <ubotu> iga: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:43] <mcrandello> thanks for hte help btw LinkCanabico
[08:43] <B4C> anybody using conexant modems?
[08:43] <iga> ok thanx
[08:44] <LinkCanabico> ok now i have a cuestion. on kdevelop how do i kreate a tar file with the source makefile and configure?
[08:46] <hitmanWilly> iga: i know its a pita to get all of this individually, but ive seen automatix seriously bork some systems
[08:46] <WillLuongo> Hello, this might sound like a dumb question, but is there a way to start an application in a command prompt and have it stay open after the command prompt (or ssh) is closed?
[08:46] <flowingfire> Hmm... My printer printed two things I tried... Now it randomly decided to not work anymore.
[08:47] <iga> hitmanWilly: oh.. i see, thanx for helping me
[08:47] <hitmanWilly> iga: np :)
[08:48] <flowingfire> hitman Willy: I tried what u said, and I printed two things successfully.  But now it's doing the same thing as before for no good reason.
[08:48] <hitmanWilly> iga: just set up kubuntu on my lappy and had to set most of this up again
[08:49] <hitmanWilly> ok, bye all...sleep is calling me
[08:52] <mcrandello> LinkCanabico: you mean after you create a project how to you make it into a tarball?
[08:52] <LinkCanabico> mcrandello yes exactly
[08:52] <mcrandello> from playing around with it it looks like it already has all the subdirs etc in the proper place so from the directory above the project...
[08:52] <mcrandello> tar -cxvf foo.tar.gz foo/
[08:53] <mcrandello> where foo is the project name
[08:53] <mcrandello> wait
[08:53] <mcrandello> tar -czvf
[08:53] <mcrandello> x is for Xtract z is for Zip, keep getting those two confused
[08:54] <LinkCanabico> yes but the makefiles of kadevelop have a problem if you copy them into another dir
[08:55] <zayb> is there something wrong with kaffeine in feisty that stops it from playing encrypted dvd's at all? I've tried the ubuntu guide, the guide at ubuntuguide.org and added the medibuntu repositories; still getting the same error message
[08:55] <mcrandello> they explicitly list the full path instead of relative?
[08:55] <LinkCanabico> yes its the full path
[08:56] <LinkCanabico> srcdir = /home/patrick/Code/opengl_svn/src
[08:56] <LinkCanabico> top_srcdir = /home/patrick/Code/opengl_svn
[08:56] <LinkCanabico> and i dont want to edit them by hand
[08:56] <mcrandello> what an unhelpful setting!
[08:57] <LinkCanabico> any idea?
[08:57] <mcrandello> there has to be something
[08:58] <LinkCanabico> it has an option build pakege but tere it has some files missing
[09:01] <kraut> moin
[09:04] <mcrandello> LinkCanabico: There's always the project-wide text search-replace function :V
[09:05] <LinkCanabico> yes ist what im using but :-/
[09:09] <mcrandello> ah
[09:09] <mcrandello> LinkCanabico: look in "Project->Project Options"
[09:10] <mcrandello> in the general category make sure it says relative
[09:10] <mcrandello> to project file
[09:10] <LinkCanabico> mcrandello about makehuman the CVS is broken
[09:11] <mcrandello> oh
[09:11] <mcrandello> should have figured as much, considering the release cycles
[09:12] <LinkCanabico> it alredy is on relative i will trie it the other way mabye the translator skrued up
[09:13] <mcrandello> I was actually hoping on an OS bug though for an easy workaround. That configure script scares the bejeesus out of me
[09:14] <mcrandello> guess I can rm all those symlinks I made then
[09:19] <LinkCanabico> mcrandello i found a way i cd to the hiest dir in the project and make dist
[09:20] <mcrandello> tidies everything up and creates a tarball right there?
[09:23] <LinkCanabico> yes it is wonderful
[09:25] <froud> After dist-upgrade edgy to fiesty my wireless adapter, that was working, is no longer. Anyone got any pointers on the problem?
[09:27] <mcrandello> froud this is a long shot but if you have a cheap laptop with an ATIIXP chipset and a 200m card you may have to get the video card set up before the wireless or usb will work right
[09:29] <froud> mcrandello: the pcmcia card worked on edgy, what changed
[09:29] <ericsson> Which codecs to I need to watch standard DVD's in Kaffeine?
[09:29] <mcrandello> LinkCanabico: I'll have to take a look at kdevelop, if they get qt-jambi in the 4 release I'll probably try to re-learn java again
[09:30] <mcrandello> froud: is it even being detected?
[09:30] <iwakura> im back again :P
[09:30] <froud> mcrandello: yes it is
[09:30] <iwakura> im having trouble setting up i8k
[09:31] <iwakura> the fan is working nonstop ...
[09:31] <mcrandello> froud: from a konsole try "cat /proc/interrupts" and see if there's anything sharing the irq
[09:32] <mcrandello> from my own limited experience my wireless always has problems when sharing an irq and the other device isn't working
[09:32] <iwakura> i installed i8kutils and this is what i get when i try to run i8kbuttons, i8kctl or anything
[09:32] <mcrandello> or working *properly*
[09:32] <iwakura> cat: /proc/i8k: Fiel or directory doesn't exists
[09:34] <iwakura> what can i do ?
[09:35] <froud> mcrandello: sec just rebooting
[09:35] <iwakura> im using kubuntu 7.04
[09:37] <froud> mcrandello: it's on it's own interupt
[09:38] <mcrandello> :( I'm pretty much useless then
[09:39] <mcrandello> what kind of card, error message you getting?
[09:39] <froud> mcrandello: no worries, I will hack on. I see Wireless Lan assistant does see the card
[09:39] <froud> and the network
[09:40] <dac_> Iwakura, did you just recently install kubuntu 7.04?
[09:40] <Endler> I figured out my problem.  After you get a Windows virtual machine set up, there is an extra iso extra image you can mount to install extras in Windows to support higher resolutions. :)
[09:41] <iwakura> yepp
[09:41] <mcrandello> good luck froud. Thanks again for the help LinkCanabico. Gnight all
[09:41] <iwakura> dac_: i installed yesterday .. to be exact
[09:42] <dac_> ok, Iwonder if I could download same here?
[09:42] <iwakura> dac_: and installed i8kutils .... but i get that nonexisting file error ....
[09:43] <dac_> I'm not smart enough to help you :0
[09:44] <dac_> :)
[09:44] <dac_> got to get it right.
[09:44] <Sesshoumaru> anybody know virtual cdrom software
[09:45] <mat1980> hi, I have setted up the essid of wifi network to make my system connect to it at start up
[09:46] <mat1980> but now I can't view the graph of wifi power. How should I do to make it show again?
[09:47] <Sesshoumaru> network manager
[09:47] <Sesshoumaru> i don't know :P
[09:48] <mat1980> knetworkmanager applet is still running, but it has the icon of the cable network...
[09:49] <mat1980> and don't show me the wifi network available anymore...
[09:52] <blackflag> !kernel header
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel header - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <blackflag> Where Can I get the kernel-header for feisty?
[09:54] <mat1980> blackflag, with synaptic...
[09:55] <blackflag> yes, but there are no kernel headers
[09:58] <ardchoille> How often do I need to do 'sudo apt-get update'? Is that only for when the package lists change on the repo side? How often is that?
[09:58] <mat1980> blackflag, look for linux-headers. In my system they are already installed. I guess they are installed by default.
[09:59] <iwakura> i8k anyone ?
[09:59] <jussi01> !headers | blackflag
[09:59] <ubotu> blackflag: To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[10:02] <morpheus> anybody any experience of setting up a kubuntu cluster?
[10:03] <mat1980> ubotu & blackflag, it could be better install linux-headers-geniric (if you use the generic kernel) so that it will kept uptodate. But it should already be installed.
[10:04] <blackflag> okay thanks! :) I have to install the llinux-headers
[10:04] <slooow> gosh
[10:04] <iwakura> how do i get i8k to work ?
[10:05] <slooow> the prepare partions part of the 7.04 installer is SOOOOO SLOOOOW
[10:05] <slooow> wtf does "scanning disks..." mean, anyway?
[10:05] <lupul> hi everybod. what can i do to stop an error in k3b? it always says that i  have to cut media descriptor in joliet tree
[10:06] <lupul> because filesystem names are too long
[10:06] <iwakura> !i8kutils|Iwakura
[10:06] <lupul> the edgy k3b was better
[10:07] <slooow> ... ubiquity is using 99% of my cpu
[10:08] <slooow> and the installer isn't doing anything
[10:08] <slooow> are there logs
[10:09] <detto> how can I give my user (not root) write access to a directory?
[10:09] <slooow> detto: chown your_user directory/; chmod u+w directory/
[10:10] <detto> thanks
[10:11] <slooow> the ubuntu installer scares teh shit out of me.  why is ntfsresize running in the background?!
[10:12] <mat1980> iwakura, modprobe i8k
[10:13] <iwakura> FATAL: Error inserting i8k (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/char/i8k.ko): No such device
[10:14] <mat1980> iwakura, did you do it with root priviledge? maybe "sudo modprobe i8k" works
[10:15] <iwakura> mat1980:  nop, exactly the same
[10:16] <iwakura> should i install kernel source before installing i8kutils?
[10:17] <iwakura> i installed using adept ...
[10:17] <mat1980> iwakura, no you don't need kernel sources
[10:17] <iwakura> then i dont know wtf i did wrong :(
[10:17] <mat1980> maybe, try "sudo update-modules" and then "sudo modprobe i8k"
[10:18] <iwakura> nop, i get the same FATAL error
[10:18] <iwakura> the readme says something about making the module and then use insmod with it .....
[10:18] <mat1980> iwakura, have you installed all kernel modules? maybe i8k is a restricted module
[10:19] <iwakura> but i dont know if should do that
[10:19] <iwakura> mm i dont .. know .. how do i do that o_O
[10:20] <gorgonzola> exit
[10:21] <mat1980> I have just installed i8kutils and they work fine after modprobe i8k. And I have compiled nothing
[10:21] <MementoMori> hi all
[10:21] <MementoMori> !beryl
[10:21] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:22] <mat1980> Did you installed kubunty with fresh install or have you updraded?
[10:22] <iwakura> fresh install..
[10:22] <mat1980> uhm... mine is a fresh install too...
[10:24] <mat1980> have you linux-restricted-modules installed? maybe that could resolve it.
[10:25] <iwakura> nop that i know of
[10:25] <mat1980> iwakyra, I don't understand what you mean... I'm not english...
[10:26] <iwakura> spanish ?
[10:26] <mat1980> italian
[10:26] <iwakura> hahaha well...
[10:26] <Filthpig> !.it
[10:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:26] <mat1980> is it funny?
[10:26] <iwakura> let me check if i have linux-restricted..installed
[10:26] <lupul> !cache
[10:27] <lupul> !flush
[10:27] <lupul> ! flush
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cache - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flush - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <iwakura> yeah its   funny .. yo speak italian, i speak spanish but we're talking in english ... ooo globalization ..  I have installed it. Well... try.
[10:30] <iwakura> installing ...
[10:31] <iwakura> mm still same error
[10:31] <Filthpig> lupul, have you tried googling it?
[10:33] <mat1980> iwakura, my "locate i8k" output "/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/drivers/char/i8k.ko" at first line. In your system?
[10:33] <iwakura> mat1980: noup
[10:34] <mat1980> noup, means nothing?
[10:34] <iwakura> i meant
[10:34] <iwakura> mat1980 sorry .. there it is ... my last line ...
[10:35] <iwakura> but 'i8k' is nowhere to be found
[10:35] <ardchoille> How often do I need to do 'sudo apt-get update'? Is that only for when the package lists change on the repo side? How often is that?
[10:35] <mat1980> well, give output of uname -a
[10:35] <MementoMori> in my system I cant find /etc/apt/preferences.... can I manually create it or there is something to do before........?
[10:36] <mat1980> ardchoille, I update once per week, I guess it is enough
[10:36] <ardchoille> mat1980: Ok, thank you
[10:37] <ardchoille> MementoMori: I don't have that either. What prefs are you looking for?
[10:37] <MementoMori> ardchoille: I need it to block beryl version
[10:37] <iwakura> Linux navi 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:37] <ardchoille> MementoMori: Ah, ok.
[10:38] <mat1980> iwakura, are you there? what is the output of uname -a?
[10:38] <iwakura> mat1980: Linux navi 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:38] <iwakura> there
[10:38] <mat1980> ehm... sorry...
[10:40] <iwakura> im getting sleepy ... :(
[10:40] <iwakura> freaking i8k ... :/
[10:40] <mat1980> iwakura, I'm sorry but I have no idea on what to do...
[10:41] <mat1980> I'm late... my girlfriend will hang me up when I will arrive to her...
[10:41] <iwakura> thank for your help anyways
[10:42] <mat1980> That's allright. :)
[10:42] <mat1980> Bye
[10:42] <iwakura> :) bye
[10:42] <eMaX> re
[10:42] <eMaX> anyone here has problems with vmware and pdflush?
[10:46] <ardchoille> I'm liking this. I'm glad I switched to Kubuntu.
[10:56] <FOAD> Hey, I'm trying to set up multimedia keys, but they only seem to work on one of my two screens (I use twinview).  Actually it's a little weirder: they work on the other screen, until I move my mouse cursor onto a window on that other screen.  Then they stop working there.  Help?
[11:02] <johnny__> sorry, LOL getting used to a new client.
[11:02] <johnny__> need help with a common issue (I am sure it is)
[11:03] <johnny__> MP3support in amarok
[11:03] <pag> johnny__, install libxine-extracodecs
[11:03] <johnny__> Thx
[11:06] <nirmal> how can i select my keyboard to a regional language
[11:08] <pag> nirmal, KMenu -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout  if that's what you mean.
[11:08] <ericsson> How can I watch my supernatural episodes in kaffeine player?
[11:08] <jussi01> !restricted | ericsson:
[11:08] <ubotu> ericsson:: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:09] <ericsson> jussi01: Been trying to get that medibutu to work, but it won't :/
[11:11] <_4strO> ericsson: what's wrong with medibuntu ?
[11:12] <ericsson> _4strO: I only seem to find the package for feisty, but not for edgy (which I'm running at the moment)
[11:13] <nenemambo> buenos das!!!
[11:13] <_4strO> ericsson: sudo wget http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/sources.list.d/edgy.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/medibuntu.list
[11:13] <pag> ericsson, are you sure, that you have edgy's repo?
[11:14] <ericsson> pag, looks ok in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:14] <ericsson> _4strO: Done that already, but didn't get anything new when updating
 i got the language support but how to select the desired keyboard layout
[11:16] <ericsson> !pastebin
[11:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[11:16] <pag> nirmal, try that path I gave you, it should have layout-settings
[11:16] <nirmal> ok lemme try
[11:17] <_4strO> ericsson: sudo apt-get install libxine1-ffmpeg
[11:17] <ericsson> _4strO: Take a look at what I got this time around: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18351/
[11:17] <_4strO> ericsson: close adept
[11:18] <ericsson> _4strO: doh! ;)
[11:19] <ericsson> _4strO: can't find that package..
[11:19] <_4strO> ericsson: ok now ?
[11:19] <_4strO> sorry was a feisty one ;)
[11:19] <ericsson> _4strO: Thoose are the ones I keep finding :)
[11:19] <_4strO> ericsson: sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[11:20] <ericsson> _4strO: Done that, but I'll give it a go again..
[11:20] <ericsson> _4strO: Already newest..
[11:21] <ericsson> It did work before I upgraded from edgy -> fiesty, it did work after the upgrade but now since I re-formatted and went back to edgy, then it doesn't work anymore..
[11:21] <sonoftheclayr> i have a slight changing volume button, up until today the volume controls would control the master volume, but now thye only control pcm. any ideas?
[11:23] <_4strO> ericsson: weird
[11:23] <sonoftheclayr> and yes, i have changed the global shortcuts in kmix
[11:24] <ericsson> _4strO: Yes, it is really weird..Everything looks as if it would work, but it doesn't. Can't play for instance divx encoded (workrelated), .avi or normal DVD's
[11:25] <ericsson> So, would my only solution be to upgrade to feisty again, or what? :)
[11:26] <Hamm_sand> hello?  is there anyhone there?
[11:27] <morpheus> !libmyodbc
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libmyodbc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <Hamm_sand> i cannot figure out why i can't write to my fat32 partition
[11:27] <Hamm_sand> i never had this problem with freespire
[11:28] <_4strO> ericsson: no, it have to work :)
[11:28] <Hamm_sand> i can read it, but i cannot save anything to it
[11:28] <Hamm_sand> in root or in my user
[11:28] <Hamm_sand> i tried changing permisisons but it is not working
[11:29] <ericsson> !ntfs3g
[11:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:29] <_4strO> Hamm_sand: is it an automounted partition ?
[11:30] <ericsson> Hamm_sand: You most likely need ntfs-3g
[11:31] <_4strO> ericsson: not for fat32
[11:31] <ericsson> _4strO: true true, vfat should do it then..
[11:33] <jussi01> !ntfs-3g | ericsson:
[11:33] <ubotu> ericsson:: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[11:33] <_4strO> ericsson: did you try to install mplayer ?
[11:34] <_4strO> or vlc
[11:34] <ericsson> _4strO: I tried VLC and Xine movie player, still no joy
[11:34] <ericsson> _4strO: I mean, the players work fine, but there is no picture or sound :)
[11:35] <Hamm_sand> i'm back sry about that
[11:36] <Hamm_sand> someone responded to me and then i couldn't talk back
[11:36] <pag> ericsson, do you have w32codecs and libxine-extracodecs installed?
[11:36] <Hamm_sand> Problem with writing to an auto-mounted   fat32 partition
[11:36] <just-this-time> !version
[11:36] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[11:37] <Hamm_sand> ne1 that can help me with that"?
[11:37] <_4strO> Hamm_sand: system settingd / advanced / disk and filesystem
[11:37] <Hamm_sand> ty
[11:37] <ericsson> pag: Is libxine-extracodes same as libxine1-ffmpeg? I got edgy on this machine right now..
[11:38] <just-this-time> I see new Knetworkmanager on systray by default on feisty ! koool!
[11:38] <pag> ericsson, afaik -extracodecs are meant mainy for dapper/edgy
[11:39] <ericsson> pag: Ok, I tried running -extracodecs but it refered to -ffmpeg instead
[11:39] <just-this-time> what about universe and mutliverse after upgrade frommm edgy to feisty
[11:39] <Hamm_sand> 4stro  i do not have those options, this is the new distro
[11:39] <ericsson> just-this-time: Tried that earlier, did make me much happier :)
[11:39] <_4strO> Hamm_sand: you have !
[11:40] <Hamm_sand>   =(
[11:40] <ericsson> I think I'll take the easy way out and simply upgrade to feisty again ;)
[11:40] <pag> ericsson, could you paste your sources.list to pastebin?
[11:40] <_4strO> hamm what dont you find ?
[11:40] <Hamm_sand> system settings
[11:40] <just-this-time> 3d effects on feisty ?
[11:40] <just-this-time> !effects
[11:40] <ubotu> For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects.
[11:40] <_4strO> Hamm_sand: your on feisty ?
[11:41] <sonoftheclayr> okay, let's try a different approach
[11:41] <Hamm_sand> under system i have Preferences and Administration
[11:41] <Hamm_sand> yes feisty
[11:41] <_4strO> Hamm_sand: in the K menu
[11:41] <sonoftheclayr> anyone know how i can change what sound (PCM, Master, etc.) that the volume keys on my keyboard control?
[11:42] <Hamm_sand> K menu?
[11:42] <Hamm_sand> i have no K menu
[11:42] <Hamm_sand> Applications, Places, System
[11:42] <_4strO> Hamm_sand: kde or gnome ?
[11:42] <Hamm_sand> gnome
[11:42] <pag> sonoftheclayr, try rightclicking on kmix's icon in tray and select 'select master channel' it might be there
[11:42] <_4strO> ... you're on Kubuntu ... go to #ubuntu
[11:42] <ericsson> pag: It's @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18355/ now
[11:43] <Hamm_sand> im' sry
[11:43] <_4strO> Hamm_sand: sorry cant help you on gnome
[11:43] <sonoftheclayr> pag: no luck, i already tried to set the global shortcut keys, maybe alsa config files?
[11:43] <pag> ericsson, uncomment (remove #) lines 26 & 27
[11:44] <ericsson> pag: would adding backports help?
[11:44] <sonoftheclayr> pag: it's set to master which is what i want it to control but it only controls pcm
[11:45] <pag> sonoftheclayr, sorry, I'm out of ideas :-/
[11:45] <sonoftheclayr> pag: thanks anyway
[11:45] <ericsson> pag: still same thing after apt-update, apt-upgrade -> no sound, no picture :/
[11:45] <sonoftheclayr> i'll keep poking about
[11:46] <jlilly> so amarok, amarok-xine, k3d and kaffine want to update, but when I select "request update" via adept.. it says installing it will BREAK the system? Any thoughts?
[11:46] <ericsson> I think it's an evil bug in edgy that forces us to upgrade to feisty...ah...or is that the way Microsoft does things? ;)
[11:46] <pag> ericsson, have you uncommented those lines? And if you had, did you tire to install -extracodecs again?
[11:46] <pag> s/tire/try
[11:47] <ericsson> pag: I'll try to remove them and reinstall, then update, upgrade: sounds like a plan?
[11:47] <pag> ericsson, could work :)
[11:50] <ericsson> bah, still nothing...
[11:50] <sonoftheclayr> hmmm good enough i set alt+ctrl +up and +down to control the master channel and the actual volume buttons control pcm, i wouldn't mind it the other way around though
[11:50] <ericsson> so...upgrading to feisty again, I guess :)
[11:51] <pag> ericsson, wait a sec... I'll post working sources.list on pastebin
[11:52] <just-this-time> feisty is just anmore mature ubuntu
[11:53] <just-this-time> BTW where is beryl ? built-in?
[11:53] <xushi> hi all
[11:53] <jlilly> what would cause kmix not to list any mixers?
[11:54] <xushi> Can anyone provide me with the docs on how to save all my changes onto USB after using kubuntu ?
[11:54] <xushi> is it hard /?
[11:54] <jlilly> I'm trying to get my SoundMAX audio to work in Kubuntu
[11:54] <just-this-time> wow beryl is so smooth working out of hte box
[11:54] <jlilly> just-this-time: yea. its sexxy if you're gfx card is happy.
[11:54] <pag> ericsson, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18356/ try that one
[11:55] <jlilly> just-this-time: I've had some wonkiness when it doesn't start by default. almost as if it had disabled my default window manager.
[11:55] <just-this-time> jlilly: is it good to have it by default ? is nt it too early
[11:56] <jlilly> xushi: it shouldn't be. look up portable home folders
[11:56] <majnoon> stoft: you here ?
[11:56] <jlilly> just-this-time: its not on my computer by default, but for instance.. when I opened up kubuntu 5 min ago, I had no window decorators (titlebars and such)
[11:56] <xushi> jlilly : is it something already in kubuntu or will i have to install and configure many things ?
[11:56] <jlilly> just-this-time: I started beryl-manager and it works, though.
[11:57] <jlilly> xushi: I know Knoppix had it built in. As kubuntu isn't really used in a live-cd environment, I don't think it will be AS easy, but should be fairly easy in itself.
[11:57] <just-this-time> what are other cool effects besides cube and peeping behind window in beryl ?
[11:57] <xushi> =/
[11:58] <jlilly> just-this-time: wiggly windows, water effects...
[11:58] <jlilly> my favorite is when you close (or in my case minimize) a window, it looks like it burnt.
[11:59] <majnoon> i some how goofed up my upgrade bigtime
[11:59] <jlilly> xushi: What do you want to save to your USB stick?
[11:59] <majnoon> TRYING dpkg --configure -a see if that works
[11:59] <stoft> majnoon: ?
[11:59] <jlilly> majnoon: Howso?
[11:59] <ericsson> pag: It's running through the updates now..
[12:00] <majnoon> stuck without x and it no see my other hard drives for one thing
[12:00] <jlilly> xushi: if you ALWAYS plan on having your USB stick with you, you could make your home folder a symbolic link to a usb device..
[12:00] <jlilly> dunno how well that would work though. I've never done it.
[12:01] <xushi> could do, but there are also settings in /etc , etc...
[12:01] <jlilly> true...
[12:01] <jlilly> hrm.
[12:01] <pag> ericsson, goog.. afterwards you should probably try to install -extracodecs and w32codecs (just type sudo apt-get install, it'll let you know, if you really have those installed)
[12:01] <jlilly> It wouldn't be hard to get all of your settings backed up onto the usb drive, but getting them back off on each run would be difficult.
[12:01] <pag> s/goog/good
[12:01] <majnoon> TRYING dpkg --configure -a see if that works
[12:02] <ericsson> pag: probably a good bet since I removed all codes e.t.c before running through the updates; trying to get fresh packages now..
[12:03] <pag> ericsson, good luck :)
[12:03] <ericsson> pag: Yeah, I'll probably need it, thank's a million for the help mate..
[12:04] <majnoon> stoft: look at bugs.launchpad.net/~nutnut
[12:04] <majnoon> that the START of the trouble
[12:04] <stoft> jlilly: xushi: how many writes can you do on a usbstick? if they are limited I would probably stay away from using it as /home regularly
[12:05] <stoft> majnoon: looking now
[12:05] <xushi> i just want it to load all the diffs from the usb stick, and when i shutdown, it writes them there
[12:05] <xushi> when i boot, it loads all the diffs again
[12:05] <stoft> majnoon: ouch.
[12:06] <majnoon> then working on trying to fix the goof up
[12:06] <jlilly> stoft: true. I know knoppix did a lot of it for home folder information.
[12:06] <majnoon> got 6.06 LTS disk here if nec
[12:07] <jlilly> stoft: and I want to say that the number of writes are in the 300,000 range, but I might be off by an order of magnitude
[12:07] <zeroXten> lo all
[12:08] <jlilly> hi.
[12:08] <stoft> majnoon: I have no idea what the status of your system is, but I would probably try the manual upgrade and see if that might not fix things. I hope you have backups...
[12:08] <jlilly> what would cause kmix not to list any mixers? I'm trying to get my SoundMAX onboard audio device to work in Kubuntu
[12:08] <zeroXten> how do I run something like '/usr/bin/myapp --help' in a terminal, from the kde menu? If I don't supply --noclose the terminal disappears as soon as the app has finished, but with --noclose it doesn't go back to the prompt =(
[12:09] <ericsson> pag: still didn't work after that, I've had enough now, I'm jumping on the feisty train again, and hopefully it will work then..
[12:09] <stoft> jlilly: 300k doesn't sound insufficient :) that's >800 writes per day with a 1 year lifespan.
[12:09] <jlilly> stoft: I bought a 4gb usb stick for $70. I'd be satifisfied with 300k writes.
[12:09] <pag> ericsson, quite strage, that those don't work. In what format are you trying to watch videos?
[12:10] <majnoon> going to try a reboot
[12:10] <stoft> jlilly: and in a year that stick is going to cost you maybe half? a third? then you can upgrade to double size...
[12:11] <ericsson> pag: tried divx encoded, normal .mpeg, .avi even (shrugs) windows files, still nothing..
[12:11] <jlilly> stoft: as if I even need to. I don't use a third of the stick as it is.
[12:11] <stoft> xushi: not sure how to go about it, not quite in the know, but with udev configuration and a startup/shutdown script you might be able to accomplish what you want.
[12:11] <jlilly> I just bought it to increase my epeen
[12:12] <ericsson> pag: the players (kaffeine, xine movie player, mplayer e.t.c) all of them seem to jitter on the files, i.e the time bar jumps faster than it should, but I guess it's some thing wrong in the xine engine..
[12:12] <pvandewyngaerde> how do i make a dvd-movie of a mpg i have ?
[12:12] <stoft> jlilly: me neither, I use my usbstick about once a month.
[12:12] <pag> ericsson, strange... very strange. Sorry I couldn't help :-/
[12:12] <stoft> ericsson: have you tried vlc?
[12:13] <xushi> stoft : hmm, this is too difficult.. I mean to me ubuntu/kubuntu seem to be for the newbies who want to try or move to linux, and this is an important feature. To go through all that just to set it up to me defies the purpose of having (k)ubuntu
[12:13] <ericsson> pag: No worries mate, you helped me realising how much I don't like codecs ;)
[12:13] <ericsson> stoft: Yes, got that one as well, still nothing..
[12:13] <zeroXten> rah
[12:13] <jlilly> xushi: why do you say that? Why exactly do you want to backup all of your settings?
[12:13] <jlilly> Is it for portability?
[12:13] <jlilly> or is it for archival purposes?
[12:15] <jlilly> if you're trying to archive your drive, just: sudo tar -cf fullbackup.tar /
[12:15] <jlilly> if you want portability, build a live-cd of Knoppix
[12:15] <stoft> ericsson: afaik vlc doesn't use the same codecs as mplayer/xine. didn't catch the beginning of the convo so not sure what your problem is, but that would indicate some other problem and not a codec problem
[12:15] <don> what is Knoppix?
[12:16] <stoft> xushi: what is it you want backup, and what is the volume?
[12:16] <jlilly> Knoppix is a debian-based live-cd environment. It comes with open office and such. Doesn't install anything on your HDD, just runs straight from the CD
[12:16] <don> ok
[12:17] <jlilly> Created by a german professor who put it in machines with no HDD so kids wouldn't break stuff.
[12:17] <don> were can I get it?
[12:17] <jlilly> www.knoppix.com -- I think.
[12:17] <don> thanks
[12:17] <PhinnFort> knopper.net
[12:17] <ericsson> stoft: It's ok, I started updating edgy -> feisty again, hopefully that will take care of the problem..
[12:17] <PhinnFort> that's the engineers site
[12:17] <jlilly> knoppix.org
[12:18] <jlilly> .. or that.
[12:19] <_3fg> so in order to quickly install KDE I should go into Synaptic and install kdelibs?
[12:19] <_3fg> I have GNOME right now, but I want to try KDE
[12:19] <sonoftheclayr> _3fg: kubuntu-desktop
[12:19] <_3fg> ok
[12:19] <majnoon> ok got x to work
[12:20] <jlilly> anyway, gonna reboot to see if I can fix this stupid sound issue. (ie. the only reason I'm not using kubuntu exclusively)
[12:20] <don> I am at konoppix but i dont know how to download files
[12:20] <_3fg> is there any way to make my laptop's touchpad not click every time I touch it?
[12:21] <majnoon> stoft, i think mdadm may be causing trouble (but not sure)
[12:21] <stoft> majnoon: congrats :)
[12:21] <stoft> k, not sure what that is...
[12:21] <xushi> argh.. casper-cow doesn't work with 7.0.4
[12:22] <majnoon> raid something me think (no raid drives)
[12:22] <zeroXten> how do I run something like '/usr/bin/myapp --help' in a terminal, from the kde menu? If I don't supply --noclose the terminal disappears as soon as the app has finished, but with --noclose it doesn't go back to the prompt =(
[12:22] <Lynoure> _3fg: there is, but I cannot remember the steps. Maybe: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/15/fixing-my-alps-touchpad-with-the-synaptics-driver/
[12:22] <_3fg> thanks
[12:26] <stoft> zeroXten: try clicking "options" and chosing "run in terminal window". not sure if that's what you're looking for though.
[12:27] <stoft> out for lunch, later
[12:32] <_3fg> what's the difference between gdm and kdm?
[12:33] <majnoon> stoft it looks like they reading drives as scsii
[12:33] <jlilly> grrr. still not working :(
[12:34] <A_A> ive been trying to install graphics card drivers for last 3 hours
[12:34] <A_A> i keep getting
[12:34] <A_A> ERROR: You do not appear to have libc header files installed on your system.
[12:34] <A_A>        Please install your distribution's libc development package.
[12:35] <A_A> im using kubuntu
[12:35] <A_A> i thought i had installed the header files but obviously not
[12:35] <mez_> After just rebooting Feisty, X Color depth seems way low. Any idea why? What to check?
[12:37] <payam> I have a guestion
[12:37] <payam> Halooooooooooooooooooo
[12:37] <payam> anybody there?
[12:37] <A_A> ask your question and someone will eventually get back to you
[12:38] <gholm> can anyone tell me why I can see my SATA drive in Edgy but not in Feisty?
[12:38] <payam> I have downloaded IE7from Microsoft and i have wine on my kubuntu how can i unrar this fucking RAR file?
[12:38] <payam> not from microsoft
[12:38] <payam> from Rapidshare
[12:38] <A_A> um
[12:38] <PriceChild> payam, watch your language please :)
[12:38] <A_A> y would u want IE in linux ?
[12:38] <PhinnFort> !unrar | payam
[12:38] <ubotu> payam: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:38] <PriceChild> !info unrar | payam
[12:38] <payam> ok
[12:38] <ubotu> payam: unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7.3-1 (feisty), package size 94 kB, installed size 228 kB
[12:38] <PhinnFort> !language | payam
[12:38] <PhinnFort> :D
[12:38] <ubotu> payam: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:39] <payam> ok
[12:39] <payam> I 'll try
[12:39] <gholm> is there anyway to see what driver I'm using to read my SATA drive in Edgy?  I need to know which drive to modprob in Feisty
[12:40] <payam> "kubuntu-se
[12:40] <payam> #kubuntu-se
[12:40] <_alex> Hi : I m looking for a ventirad regulator ...
[12:40] <pag> A_A, you could try installing libc6-dev it might help you
[12:40] <gholm> anyone?
[12:41] <gholm>  can't even tell if anyone can see these posts? anyone?
[12:41] <gholm> hello?
[12:41] <gholm> can you hear me?
[12:43] <PhinnFort> loud and clear
[12:43] <jlilly> sound fixed! apparently I can't spell position  *chuckles*
[12:43] <jlilly> potision.. it's entirely TOO 6:43am right now
[12:43] <PhinnFort> gholm: lsmod
[12:43] <PhinnFort> :44
[12:43] <_eMaX_> re
[12:44] <gholm> PhinnFort: OK will check thanks
[12:44] <_eMaX_> when Ubuntu starts, I see some [fail]  messages appear in red color. How can I find out what went wrong? When the graphical login appears, I cannot get back to these messages, as the console looses the scrollback buffer
[12:44] <PhinnFort> gholm: also "dmesg | grep sata"
[12:44] <PhinnFort> _eMaX_: log viewer is your friend
[12:44] <_eMaX_> what is that
[12:44] <mc__> can i use amd64 on my Intel Xeon?
[12:45] <PhinnFort> _eMaX_: KSystemLog in the K-MEnu, under System
[12:47] <_eMaX_> PhinnFort: ok information overflow. how can I disable starting kdm for a moment? I'd just like to see the fails scrolling back
[12:48] <PhinnFort> _eMaX_: System Settings -> Advanced -> System Services i think
[12:48] <PhinnFort> but System Services is crap, and you should use KControl;)
[12:50] <PhinnFort> well, it's lagging and unusable here, but see if you can find KDM or XDM there
[12:50] <PhinnFort> KDM, actually
[12:51] <_eMaX_> tnx
[12:51] <PhinnFort> (something that system intensive shouldn't be implemented in Python, though)
[12:53] <_3fg> how do I enable the Mac-like toolbars?
[12:53] <PhinnFort> _3fg: alt+f2, kcontrol search for "behaviour"
[12:53] <_3fg> ok
[12:53] <PhinnFort> then click on "behaviour"
[12:53] <PhinnFort> :D
[12:54] <gholm> PhinnFort: is there anyway to downgrade libata?
[12:54] <gholm> to the edgy eft version?
[12:54] <PhinnFort> gholm: i'm not too terribly familiar with how ubuntu handles this
[12:54] <PhinnFort> i suspect the libata is part of the kernel packaage
[12:54] <gholm> k
[12:54] <gholm> PhinnFort: yes it is
[12:54] <_3fg> aha, that did it
[12:54] <_3fg> thanks :)
[12:54] <PhinnFort> gholm: you could go in manually and fix it
[12:55] <PhinnFort> _3fg: you're welcome;)
[12:55] <gholm> PhinnFort: build my own kernel?  heh yeah right
[12:55] <PhinnFort> gholm: it's not that hard, actually;)
[12:55] <PhinnFort> just keep your tongue straight:P
[12:55] <_3fg> now to make Opera look nice
[12:55] <PhinnFort> _3fg: i don't think it's possible
[12:56] <PhinnFort> _3fg: you could skin it, though
[12:56] <PhinnFort> my.opera.com i think
[12:56] <PhinnFort> but some parts will still look like crap
[12:56] <_3fg> yeah
[12:56] <PhinnFort> one of the kde devs tried to convince them to integrate better by re-using parts of KDE, like the widget theme, file dialogs and stuff
[12:56] <_3fg> it only looks nice in windows
[12:57] <PhinnFort> but they where going in the other direction
[12:57] <PhinnFort> just use Konqueror;)
[12:57] <_3fg> meh, does it have mouse gestures?
[12:57] <PhinnFort> yeah
[12:57] <PhinnFort> kcontrol -> input actions
[12:58] <_3fg> that's all I need :)
[12:58] <PhinnFort> ;)
[12:58] <jlilly> why is it when I attempt to install things (like upgrades for amarok or kaffine or fresh install of vlc) I get errors. It says it will break previously installed packages, but I don't understand why.
[12:58] <PhinnFort> select "konqueror gestures" and tick off the "disable" box
[12:58] <PhinnFort> jlilly: how is your sources.list?
[12:58] <jlilly> is it perhaps a bit of wierdness with my repositories or something?
[12:59] <PhinnFort> !sources.list
[12:59] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:59] <jlilly> PhinnFort: Good question. It worked for my upgraded...
[12:59] <PhinnFort> !source-o-matic
[12:59] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:59] <PhinnFort> _3fg: you can have voice control in that same KControl module
[12:59] <PhinnFort> it's really cool
[12:59] <_3fg> nice
[01:00] <_3fg> I don't have a mic though
[01:00] <PhinnFort> me neither:(
[01:00] <tobias_> good morning every body
[01:00] <PhinnFort> i'm planning on buying a bluetooth-based mic thingy
[01:00] <PhinnFort> !hi | tobias_
[01:00] <ubotu> tobias_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:00] <tobias_> :-)
[01:00] <PhinnFort> :)
[01:01] <tobias_> i think mice are rather nive
[01:01] <tobias_> em.. nice
[01:01] <_3fg> how can I move the K Menu up to the Mac-like toolbar?
[01:02] <PhinnFort> _3fg: i'm not really sure...
[01:02] <_3fg> or is that bar not customizable
[01:02] <PhinnFort> _3fg: maybe ask in #kde
[01:02] <_3fg> ok
[01:02] <gholm> PhinnFort: got any good howto links on a kernel upgrade?
[01:03] <PhinnFort> gholm: search for the master kernel thread on ubuntuforums.org
[01:03] <tobias_> can i upgrade kubuntu 6.10 to kubuntu 7.04 ?
[01:03] <PhinnFort> yeah
[01:03] <PhinnFort> !feisty
[01:03] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[01:03] <tobias_> 7.04 ist feisty ??
[01:03] <LjL> _3fg: yes it is
[01:04] <tobias_> nice ;)
[01:04] <LjL> _3fg: http://ljl.byethost14.com/annotatedkde.png
[01:04] <LjL> _3fg: i just right-click on the menubar and "Add applet", does that not work for you?
[01:04] <_3fg> heheh, just like that
[01:05] <tobias_>  is kubuntu 7.04 a stable version ?
[01:05] <LjL> tobias_: yes
[01:05] <tobias_> thanks
[01:05] <tobias_> i am going to upgrade now
[01:05] <tobias_> bye
[01:05] <PhinnFort> glhf
[01:05] <PhinnFort> as in good luck have fun
[01:06] <_3fg> why don't page up/down scroll up and down on images in Konqueror
[01:07] <PhinnFort> _3fg: i think you need to enable it in gwenview settings
[01:07] <PhinnFort> alt+f2 -> gwenview -> settings
[01:10] <tobias_> wow - what a incredible system - it can read my mind - i wanted to update - i clicked no key, but a dialog came, which wanted, that i upgrade my kubuntu :-)
[01:10] <PhinnFort> :P
[01:10] <PhinnFort> magic
[01:11] <roguejedix> Hey, can anyone take a look at my problem I posted on ubuntu forums? I can't seem to get a reply from anyone
[01:11] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: link?
[01:11] <roguejedix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=427277
[01:12] <jlilly> anyone using kickoff currently?
[01:12] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: try going to "media:/"
[01:12] <PhinnFort> jlilly: i would be, if the source would compile
[01:12] <PhinnFort> :D
[01:12] <jlilly> just wondering how its search function compares to vista
[01:12] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: Done. Can only see my HDDs and floppy
[01:12] <jlilly> which is my favorite feature of vista as of yet
[01:12] <PhinnFort> jlilly: i dunno what it uses
[01:12] <PhinnFort> jlilly: probably beagle, which is better than vista's, afaik
[01:13] <A_A> where is kib ?
[01:13] <PhinnFort> jlilly: KDE 4 is supposed to have semantic search, which is really, really cool
[01:13] <jlilly> sucks that there isn't a deb. in my repositories for kickoff yet :-/
[01:13] <jlilly> PhinnFort: KDE4's eta?
[01:13] <PhinnFort> sometime in 2007
[01:13] <PhinnFort> for 4.0
[01:13] <PhinnFort> which isn't really feature complete
[01:14] <_3fg> how to I access kcontrol?
[01:14] <PhinnFort> 4.1 will be the "real" release, afaik
[01:14] <PhinnFort> _3fg: alt+f2 type in "kcontrol" and hit enter
[01:14] <_3fg> k
[01:14] <epimeth> soooo.... KFTPgrabber or Kasablanca?
[01:14] <epimeth> screenshots pull me to the former, name to the latter... what do you guys suggest / prefer?
[01:14] <PhinnFort> epimeth: konqueror
[01:14] <epimeth> seriously?
[01:14] <jlilly> is alt+f2 the shortcut to run program?
[01:15] <PhinnFort> jlilly: yeah
[01:15] <sonoftheclayr> yes
[01:15] <jlilly> :( not working for me.
[01:15] <PhinnFort> epimeth: although I use dolphin
[01:16] <roguejedix> Wonder why CDs work fine and DVDs don't
[01:16] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: how about a "ls -l /media"?
[01:16] <PhinnFort> !paste | roguejedix
[01:16] <ubotu> roguejedix: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:16] <roguejedix> Just a sec
[01:19] <roguejedix> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18362/
[01:21] <PhinnFort> is the dvd in the drive now?
[01:22] <roguejedix> Yeah
[01:22] <Tm_T> PhinnFort: jlilly: 4.0 is planned to be relased late autumn
[01:22] <PhinnFort> Tm_T: late 2007;)
[01:23] <Tm_T> actually I can give you date
[01:23] <PhinnFort> Tm_T: i doubt it won't be changed
[01:23] <PhinnFort> .P
[01:23] <jlilly> Why would I get this when I'm root?     --     bash: kill: (7142) - Operation not permitted
[01:23] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: can you paste the output of "dmesg | tail" into #flood
[01:23] <PhinnFort> ?
[01:23] <jlilly> I'm trying to kill kmix b/c I think it errored out.
[01:23] <Tm_T> http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule
[01:23] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: Sure thing
[01:24] <MalMen> hello, i install now kbfx
[01:24] <MalMen> how to start it ?
[01:24] <_3fg> hm, I can't get mouse gestures to work
[01:24] <PhinnFort> MalMen: right click on the panel at the bottom, add applet to panel
[01:24] <PhinnFort> _3fg: did you enable them?
[01:25] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: i think the DVD is bad
[01:25] <RancidZA> where can i get a list of supported wireless nic's ?
[01:25] <_3fg> they're not disabled
[01:25] <PhinnFort> _3fg: are you using the right mousebutton
[01:25] <_3fg> yep
[01:25] <PhinnFort> _3fg: sure?
[01:26] <PhinnFort> check "general settings" in the input actions settings
[01:26] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: It works fine on my windows partition, though. Should I try putting another one in?
[01:26] <PhinnFort> "settings for gestures" i think the tab is called
[01:26] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: yeah
[01:26] <MalMen> PhinnFort thanks, i think the kbfx is another substitute of k-menu
[01:26] <PhinnFort> what kind of dvd's is it?
[01:26] <MalMen> :)
[01:26] <PhinnFort> MalMen: yeah, it is
[01:26] <PhinnFort> but it sucks, imho;)
[01:26] <PhinnFort> ugly and buggy:P
[01:26] <MalMen> lol
[01:27] <_3fg> whenever I try edit them, it doesn't recognize it
[01:27] <MalMen> i am testing all of that
[01:27] <_3fg> I'm guessing my mouse isn't being fully supported
[01:27] <MalMen> i am being a linux configure pro :P
[01:27] <PhinnFort> _3fg: what mouse button have you currently set?
[01:27] <MidMark> LOL: in #apache channel write Ubuntu and have this back: "Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'"
[01:28] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: I've put in a video DVD now
[01:28] <RancidZA> :/
[01:28] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: have you installed the libdvdcss stuff?
[01:28] <_3fg> uh, it should be right click
[01:28] <PhinnFort> _3fg: but what is set in the KControl module?
[01:28] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: Off medibuntu? Right after the install, yeah
[01:29] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: have you codeine installed?
[01:29] <RancidZA> someone please link me to a list of known natively supported wireless network cards plz..
[01:29] <_3fg> hm, I see
[01:29] <PhinnFort> RancidZA: giyf
[01:29] <RancidZA> PhinnFort: hmm?
[01:29] <PhinnFort> RancidZA: google is your friend
[01:29] <RancidZA> i couldnt find it
[01:29] <_3fg> in order to draw it, I need to hold left click
[01:30] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: I do now :)
[01:30] <RancidZA> thats why i came here
[01:30] <_3fg> but if I do that in Konqueror, it just highlights text
[01:30] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: can you play the DVD with it?
[01:30] <PhinnFort> _3fg: but what button is configured?
[01:30] <RancidZA> ooh ok
[01:30] <RancidZA> i got it
[01:30] <_3fg> what?
[01:31] <_3fg> I don't know
[01:31] <PhinnFort> _3fg: alt+f2, kcontrol, input actions, settings for gestures
[01:31] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: Nope. I get two error messages.
[01:31] <roguejedix> I'll paste them on #flood
[01:31] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: what is the output of "sudo aptitude search libdvdcss2"
[01:31] <PhinnFort> ?
[01:31] <naor> hi all
[01:32] <PhinnFort> !hi | naor
[01:32] <ubotu> naor: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[01:32] <naor> just starting on linux guys
[01:32] <_3fg> it doesn't say a button
[01:32] <_3fg> anywhere
[01:33] <PhinnFort> _3fg: mine is in norwegian, but i'll give you a screenshot
[01:33] <jlilly> naor: welcome to the dark side.
[01:33] <_3fg> ok
[01:33] <naor> tnx
[01:33] <_eMaX_> hi all
[01:33] <_eMaX_> anyone happens to have 2.6.21 with ubuntu?
[01:33] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: i   libdvdcss2 - Library for accessing DVDs like block device usind deCSS if
[01:33] <naor> be right back
[01:34] <roguejedix> The rest is cut off
[01:34] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: it seems like your drive won't read DVD's under linux :)
[01:35] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: can you paste the whole output from dmesg to rafb.net/paste?
[01:35] <naor> hi
[01:36] <_3fg> brb
[01:37] <PhinnFort> _3fg: http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/screenie7.jpg
[01:37] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: http://rafb.net/p/5jje6691.html
[01:38] <lettuce> has anyone here set up beryl and xgl on fiesty?
[01:38] <lettuce> (kubuntu fiesty)
[01:39] <LjL> !beryl
[01:39] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:39] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: i think there's something seriously wrong with the hardware detection
[01:39] <neonlinux> hey all.... anyone know how (what application) kde uses to wrap gtk apps in its theme?
[01:39] <PhinnFort> it detects it as a cdrom only
[01:39] <PhinnFort> "[   27.140948]  sr 1:0:1:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1"
[01:39] <LjL> neonlinux: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[01:39] <LjL> !info gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[01:39] <ubotu> gtk2-engines-gtk-qt: transitional dummy package. In component main, is optional. Version 0.71~svn20070224-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 52 kB
[01:39] <LjL> hm, transitional?
[01:40] <LjL> oh, main package's called gtk-qt-engine now
[01:40] <bumzo> anybody there
[01:40] <bumzo> i need help
[01:40] <bumzo> am trying to format my HDD
[01:40] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: So is there a way to force re-detection?
[01:41] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: i'm not sure...
[01:41] <_3fg> I don't have that many options PhinnFort
[01:41] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: it's a bit over my head, but can you paste "lsmod" too?
[01:41] <_eMaX_> what's more, anyone is experiencing problems with knetworkmanager? specifically, I have 3 lines in /etc/networks/interfaces: iface eth3 inet dhcp , wireless-essid Wireless , wireless-key ... If I leave the first line in, then knetworkmanager does not find my wireless interface. If I take it out, /etc/dbus-1/event.d/25NetworkManager  does not start correctly.
[01:41] <PhinnFort> _3fg: did you clicky on the 1. first?
[01:42] <neonlinux> thanks LjL
[01:42] <_3fg> the 1.?
[01:42] <PhinnFort> i numbered the things you should click on
[01:43] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: http://rafb.net/p/p5xOAC42.html
[01:46] <Edulix> hi
[01:46] <Edulix> how can I add to /usr/local/lib/ ?
[01:46] <stoft> !klaptop
[01:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about klaptop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:46] <Edulix> how can I add /usr/local/lib/ to ld.so.conf ?
[01:47] <LjL> Edulix: edit it and add it?
[01:47] <LjL> bumzo: and the problem is?
[01:47] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: i really haven no idea what could be wrong
[01:47] <PhinnFort> i'm just googling randomly around
[01:47] <Edulix> LjL: in which format, something like include /usr/local/lib?
[01:48] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: That's okay. Thanks anyway. I'll try upgrading the firmware or something
[01:48] <PhinnFort> that might help
[01:48] <PhinnFort> i found out what the error means, though
[01:49] <PhinnFort> "Medium error:
[01:49] <PhinnFort> unrecovered read error".
[01:49] <roguejedix> Do tell
[01:49] <LjL> Edulix: oh, it uses ld.so.conf.d now, i see... no, either 1) just do it the old way, i.e. type "/usr/local/lib" iirc or 2) use the ld.so.conf.d, i think the best way might be to create a new file /etc/ld.so.conf.d/custom and add the line there
[01:49] <_3fg> ok
[01:49] <Edulix> ok thanks now it works
[01:49] <_3fg> now I've done what you showed in the screenshot
[01:49] <_3fg> still doesn't work :(
[01:49] <LjL> _3fg: what doesn't work?
[01:50] <_3fg> mouse gestures
[01:50] <LjL> _3fg: oh, thought you were talking about the menubar
[01:50] <_3fg> nah, that works great
[01:50] <PhinnFort> _3fg: have you selected the right mouse button?
[01:50] <PhinnFort> i just showed you how to get to the settings
[01:50] <_3fg> button 3, right??
[01:50] <PhinnFort> with me, yes
[01:50] <PhinnFort> then you need to click apply
[01:51] <_3fg> yep
[01:51] <roguejedix> PhinnFort: So what did you find out the error means?
[01:51] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: "Medium error: unrecovered read error."
[01:51] <PhinnFort> either the drive is damaged, or there's some low-level stuff that's failing
[01:51] <PhinnFort> probably the latter, since it works in XP
[01:51] <roguejedix> Oh, whoops. I thought that WAS the error
[01:52] <PhinnFort> _3fg: have you click in on the individual actions and enabled them?
[01:52] <PhinnFort> remembed the checkbox must NOT be ticked off
[01:52] <_3fg> yep
[01:53] <PhinnFort> maybe ask in #kde
[01:53] <_3fg> I think maybe my mouse touchpad isn't fully supported
[01:53] <roguejedix> Er, what's "low-level stuff"? I'm not familiar with the term
[01:53] <PhinnFort> _3fg: as long as your mouse moves, it should work
[01:53] <_3fg> oh well
[01:53] <_3fg> I can live without them
[01:53] <PhinnFort> roguejedix: the driver in the kernel handling the drive is failing
[01:53] <PhinnFort> somehow
[01:53] <PhinnFort> i believe
[01:53] <roguejedix> Ah, thanks
[01:54] <_3fg> if I could just disable clicking by touching the pad, then I'd be fine
[01:54] <_3fg> any clues on that one?
[01:54] <balint> hi, is there a channel for ktorrent?
[01:55] <Tm_T> balint: #ktorrent ?
[01:55] <balint> nope, im alone in the channle :(
[01:55] <Tm_T> heh
[01:56] <PhinnFort> _3fg: i think there's a tool for configuring touchpads
[01:56] <Tm_T> !ktorrent | balint
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ktorrent - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <PhinnFort> ksynaptic or something
[01:56] <Tm_T> oh
[01:56] <slawek> witam
[01:56] <PhinnFort> balint: ktorrent.org
[01:56] <PhinnFort>  /forums maybe
[01:56] <balint> its really buggy, it cant recognize some seeds :(
[01:56] <PhinnFort> !ksynaptic
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ksynaptic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <PhinnFort> balint: ?
[01:56] <PhinnFort> balint: it's working very well here
[01:56] <PhinnFort> balint: it's actually the best torrent client i've ever used
[01:56] <LjL> !info ksynaptics
[01:56] <LjL> the touchpads are called Synaptics
[01:56] <ubotu> ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 209 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[01:57] <PhinnFort> ;)
[01:57] <LjL> Synaptic is the GNOME package manager ;)
[01:57] <PhinnFort> thanks for clarifying;)
[01:57] <PhinnFort> i don't have a laptop;)
[01:57] <balint> well here it cant start seeding some torrents. i got the files, but it satrts to download them again, instead of starting to seed
[01:57] <PhinnFort> balint: have you imported them?
[01:58] <PhinnFort> you need to import the downloaded files into ktorrents cache
[01:58] <balint> how?
[01:58] <PhinnFort> import existing download
[01:58] <PhinnFort> on the file menu
[01:58] <PhinnFort> i think
[01:58] <bumzo> LjL ... i have a HDD that reads RAW on windows but cant see in on kubuntu
[01:59] <balint> i only got, new, open, and quit in the file menu
[01:59] <PhinnFort> balint: maybe it's a plugin
[01:59] <PhinnFort> go into the settings and enable it
[01:59] <PhinnFort> "partfileimportplugin"
[01:59] <LjL> bumzo: "can't see it" meaning? can't see the partitions, can't see the entire drive? what have you tried?
[02:00] <bumzo> waht do i do?
[02:00] <LjL> bumzo: where's the HD located? primary master, slave, secondary master, slave? are you on Feisty? is the drive IDE or SATA?
[02:02] <franky> ciaooo
[02:03] <LjL> !it
[02:03] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:03] <franky> ok tnx very much
[02:03] <bumzo> LjL .. i cant see it at all..i plug it in nothing happens. Its an external toshib HDD taht i connect to my usb drive #
[02:04] <LjL> oh - external. might need special drivers if you're unlucky... what about "lsusb"?
[02:04] <bumzo> lsusb??? ljl
[02:04] <LjL> bumzo: type it in a terminal
[02:05] <bumzo> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 ljl
[02:05] <stoft> LjL: nice command :)
[02:05] <bumzo> bus 1 2 3 and 4
[02:06] <LjL> bumzo: they're all listed as empty, like that? (you do have the HD plugged in yes? :P)
[02:07] <balint> PhinnFort thx, now its working, but i dont know, its part of kde, so it must be good, but it uses 25 MB RAM in low memory usage mode, and utorrent uses about 6 MB
[02:07] <PhinnFort> balint: where do you see that?
[02:07] <bumzo> LjL ... yes its plugged in
[02:07] <balint> ctrl-esc
[02:07] <PhinnFort> balint: most of that memory is probably shared libraries, that is shared with the rest of the desktop too
[02:07] <LjL> bumzo: ok, try pastebinning the output of "lshw"
[02:07] <bumzo> and yes they are listed empty LjL
[02:07] <LjL> bumzo: "sudo lshw", actually
[02:08] <bumzo> !pastebin
[02:08] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:11] <franky> i'm looking for SuperKaramba, is there someone who could explain me how to install it??
[02:11] <don> How can I raise screen resolution the high is 800x600 pannels are too big
[02:11] <Tm_T> franky: "sudo apt-get install superkaramba" in konsole
[02:12] <A_A> Since Cedega is intended to run standard 32-bit Windows games, it is by nature a 32-bit application. When running Cedega on a 64-bit Linux system, an appropriate 32-bit compatibility environment must be available.
[02:12] <A_A> how do i get a 32-bit environment ?
[02:12] <franky> and to remove it the command is "sudo apt-get remove superkaramba" ???
[02:12] <Tm_T> franky: yes
[02:12] <bumzo> LjL http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18370/
[02:12] <franky> tnx very much
[02:13] <Tm_T> !cedega
[02:13] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[02:13] <bumzo> ljl .. lengthy ... hope its of help lol
[02:13] <Tm_T> A_A: look there
[02:13] <A_A> ta
[02:13] <Tm_T> A_A: I hope it's mentioned there ;)
[02:15] <Tm_T> !resolution | don
[02:15] <don> ya
[02:15] <bumzo> ljl .. .any luck?
[02:15] <ubotu> don: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:16] <don> i am lost it maxed at 800 i thought i could change it on post
[02:16] <LjL> bumzo, if i'm not mistaken, it's really not seeing the drive in *any* way
[02:16] <LjL> not even as an unknown device or something... unless i've missed it
[02:16] <don> problem is some buttons are too far downto use
[02:17] <bumzo> mmh ... so waht does that mean? i have lost my drive?
[02:17] <don> thanks i will go there
[02:17] <Surger> Is there a glibc 2.4 package for Dapper somewhere? I need to run a newer app which was linked in a newer version of Ubuntu but I cannot upgrade at the moment.
[02:17] <LjL> bumzo: it just means that i've no idea how to start tackling the issue
[02:18] <LjL> Surger: doubt it.
[02:18] <Surger> Darn. :(
[02:19] <bumzo> ljl your right. but knowing linux is not seeing it is the 1st ste[p. windows reads it as filetype RAW
[02:23] <jlilly> any of you guys use Cedega?
[02:24] <jlilly> I am curious, if I stop paying for it, do the games just become unaccessable?
[02:25] <PhinnFort> it will kill your dog
[02:25] <PhinnFort> why don't just use wine?
[02:29] <balint> in the windows behaviors, the trasnculency is still in beta version???
[02:30] <PhinnFort> yeah
[02:33] <johnny_> I have a Brand New Toshiba Laptop that I have installed Feisty Kubuntu on and the sound does not play, but no sound server errors are generated. Any clue where I should start looking?
[02:33] <pollyo> Anyone know the steps to setup a network card?
[02:34] <pollyo> My feisty will not recognize the network card after installation but it does during the install.
[02:34] <sunnyhours> !mondo
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mondo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <pollyo> I believe it uses the madwifi driver.
[02:34] <sunnyhours> pollyo: is it a wireless network card?
[02:34] <pollyo> sunnyhours: Yes
[02:35] <sunnyhours> mine actually worked in 6.10 without any installation needed. do you know your ssid?
[02:35] <pollyo> sunnyhours: Yes. it is the default "linksys"
[02:35] <sunnyhours> so what I did was (and it may be different for you) open the system settings thing
[02:35] <pollyo> sunnyhours: My card does not even show up when I boot.  I simply have a loopback displayed with ifconfig
[02:35] <sunnyhours> oooohhhhhhh
[02:36] <Bluetooth> hi
[02:36] <sunnyhours> gimme a sec
[02:36] <pollyo> sunnyhours: In addition I only have terminal.  I am setting up the server edition without gui because of memory.
[02:36] <balint> is that normal, that i set the mount points in fstab, but i cant see them, in the syystem settings->advanced->disk and filesyystems?????
[02:36] <sunnyhours> ahh
[02:36] <sunnyhours> does dmesg | grep wlan0 show anything?
[02:36] <balint> so in fstab my /dev/hda1 is at /media/hda1   but in system setitngs... the mount point is clear :S
[02:37] <pollyo> sunnyhours: No
[02:37] <pollyo> sunnyhours: Funny thing is when I boot with the install recovery and go to a shell my card shows.
[02:38] <sunnyhours> that is weird
[02:38] <pollyo> sunnyhours: It gives me two options to select for a network card. (only one card in the system though)
[02:38] <chief__> what card is it??
[02:38] <sunnyhours> yeah, do you know the chipset?
[02:39] <pollyo> chief__: D-link wda-2320
[02:39] <pollyo> How do I load madwifi?
[02:39] <pollyo> is it ismod?
[02:39] <michi> hallo
[02:40] <michi> wo finde ich etwas ber S-Video-Anschluss?
[02:40] <sunnyhours> lsmod just shows the system modules
[02:40] <sunnyhours> !madwifi
[02:40] <chief__> pollyo  ftp://ftp.linux-wlan.org/pub/linux-wlan-ng/README
[02:40] <pag> !de | michi
[02:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:40] <ubotu> michi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:41] <chief__> with that i got my dwl-122 usb stick going
[02:41] <pollyo> pag: : Is that command line?  I do not have GUI installed.
[02:41] <chief__> yes
[02:44] <michi> hi
[02:44] <michi> versuch ichs hier nochmal:
[02:44] <jjj> hello
[02:44] <michi> kennt jemand gute Seiten fr S-Video
[02:44] <michi> also Erklrunge, wie ich das zum laufen bekomme?
[02:44] <PhinnFort> !de | michi
[02:44] <ubotu> michi: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:45] <michi> sorry
[02:45] <michi> again
[02:45] <jjj> i can't speak german...
[02:45] <michi> mist
[02:45] <michi> excuse me
[02:45] <jjj> but i want to learn...
[02:50] <ferox> i'm using kubuntu
[02:50] <ferox> i installed compiz-kde
[02:50] <jjj> is that the 3d desktop environment?
[02:50] <ferox> how can i set compiz start as default X manager?
[02:50] <ferox> yes it is
[02:53] <jjj> is beryl and compiz the same?
[02:54] <Flying_Eagle> no. but almost ;)
[02:54] <Flying_Eagle> they cooperate, jjj
[02:54] <ruben_> hey. can you help me by installing the libdvdcss?
[02:54] <ruben_> i use kubuntu in the newest 704 version
[02:55] <ferox> they do similar work
[02:55] <ruben_> i have downloaded
[02:55] <ferox> is there someone who use compiz on kubuntu?
[02:55] <ruben_> libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb
[02:56] <ruben_> and now i tyoe in the shell: dpkg -i <name>.
[02:56] <ruben_> but then the shell says to me, that another process is behinding it
[02:57] <MalMen> hello, i have here a problem with kiba-dock, please take a look
[02:57] <MalMen> http://monoport.com/2528
[02:57] <MalMen> http://monoport.com/2528
[02:59] <lz1gjd> how can i completely remove ubuntu desktop from kubuntu ?
[02:59] <MalMen> lz1gjd on synaptic remove ubuntu-desktop
[02:59] <MalMen> or something similar
[03:00] <lz1gjd> ic, but i remember ive tried before,  and its says ubuntu-desktop is an metapackage or something and cant delete /
[03:00] <MalMen> hmmm
[03:00] <MalMen> strange
[03:00] <MalMen> i was update here my ubuntu to kubuntu, but never tryed remove ubuntu
[03:01] <MalMen> kubuntu is ubuntu + kde
[03:01] <MalMen> nothing more
[03:01] <lz1gjd> i know, i gave gnome a chance
[03:01] <MalMen> and any other applications, but the base are the same
[03:01] <lz1gjd> but i want my kde
[03:01] <MalMen> lol
[03:01] <MalMen> gnome is cool
[03:01] <lz1gjd> gnome is sloowww
[03:01] <HymnToLife> MalMen, correction, Kubuntu is Ubuntu plus a very partial and buggy KDE
[03:01] <MalMen> but kde is cool too
[03:01] <lz1gjd> (at least for me)
[03:01] <pag> lz1gjd, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde <- that might work
[03:02] <MalMen> please, anyone take a look on that, -< http://monoport.com/2528
[03:03] <lz1gjd> thx
[03:03] <HymnToLife> MalMen, segfault, that's bad
[03:03] <HymnToLife> maybe a bug in kiba-dock
[03:03] <MalMen> hmm
[03:10] <chief__> any one know how to do a netinstall of 7.04 ??
[03:14] <MalMen> chief__ sudo apt-get dist-update
[03:14] <MalMen> i think
[03:16] <chief__> no i mean from scratch
[03:18] <nsm> hello all.
[03:18] <nsm> I would please like to know how to NOT install the bootloader
[03:18] <nsm> during the installation process their is just one small dialog mentioning the bootloader where you can insert a hard disk name.
[03:19] <nsm> Do i leave it blank if i don't want to install the kubuntu bootloader
[03:19] <johnny_> Hello, I have a Toshiba Satellite l35-S2161 that uses the Realtek Hidefinition Audio Chip. Sound worked with the live cd, but after install, there is no sound, and no sound server error msgs. I have made sure that the main channel is unmuted and that the ALSA is selected in SOund hardware in SYstem Settings.
[03:19] <johnny_> I need to know where to start looking for the possible issues that are preventing sound.
[03:19] <crimsun> johnny_: use model=auto
[03:20] <crimsun> it's known and fixed already upstream, just not yet available in a kernel.
[03:20] <johnny_> ok, thanks.
[03:22] <dromer> hi all, I just installed sopcast o.2.8 but I need firefox to open linsk with sop:// with it, can someone explain (or point me in the right direction to) how I can do this? (I know I have to add something in about:config)
[03:23] <strabes> dromer: you might want to ask in #ubuntu or #linux, there's a lot more activity in those channels
[03:23] <dromer> ok, thnx
[03:25] <RancidZA> im following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61 for my RT wireless card
[03:26] <RancidZA> but my makefile is failing with: RT61_Linux_STA_Drv<IP_ADDRESS>/Module/rtmp_main.c:197: error: struct net_device has no member named get_wireless_stats
[03:26] <_4strO> dromer: what's the probleme . install firefox ...
[03:26] <johnny_> Thanks for the sound help, however :-)
[03:26] <johnny_> It did not work, so I attempted to install the realtek supplied driver and totally hosed the sound architecture. LOL
[03:27] <johnny_> I have got to get used to Debian based systems! (old slack hacker)
[03:28] <johnny_> the kewl part was, as usual Realtek's Engrish was amusing!
[03:28] <surgy> can someone help me get call of duty to work please? it got a gold rating from winehq and it has one bug, you cant install it beccuase it wont let you eject the first cd to use the second, but there is a fix on the wine appDB, talking about using symlinks? i know nothing about those. can someone shed some light?
[03:29] <johnny_> anyways, thanks for the help today.
[03:29] <RancidZA> any1 have any idea with my make?
[03:29] <Hobbsee> !wine | surgy
[03:29] <ubotu> surgy: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:29] <Hobbsee> that used to show ##winehq too
[03:29] <johnny_> exit
[03:29] <ericsson> I managed to get codecs/videos working again when upgrading to feisty (as discussed a few hours ago) so, codec/video problems + upgrade = solution :)
[03:29] <surgy> Hobbsee: yah i got that part
[03:29] <Hobbsee> i'd try in ##winehq, as they know more
[03:30] <surgy> Hobbsee: yeah ill ask there, but i thought i whould check here, see if anyone knew anything about symlinks
[03:31] <Hobbsee> surgy: oh, a symlink?  should be easy enough
[03:31] <stoft> ericsson: congrats :)
[03:31] <dromer> _4strO: ? .. I _have_ firefox ... it just doesn't know how to handle sop:// links
[03:31] <Hobbsee> surgy: where's the site?
[03:31] <dromer> _4strO: anyway, I'm upgrading this machine first now
[03:31] <surgy> hobbsee: i just need to trick it into thinking both cds are mounted
[03:31] <surgy> Hobbsee: let me get you a link
[03:32] <surgy> Hobbsee: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2628
[03:32] <Hobbsee> surgy: ln -s /path/to/target /path/to/where/you/want/the/link/to/go
[03:32] <Hobbsee> check man ln for more info
[03:33] <surgy> Hobbsee: ok, umm thanks for being as descriptive as you can (implying sarcasm)
[03:34] <RancidZA> anyone?
[03:34] <RancidZA> http://rafb.net/p/BkxoeX18.html <-- heres the pastebin of my errors
[03:34] <surgy> RancidZA: whats the problem?
[03:35] <RancidZA> surgy, check the rrors :/
[03:35] <RancidZA> errors*
[03:38] <RancidZA> http://rafb.net/p/BkxoeX18.html <-- any1 got any ideas?
[03:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy All :)
[03:39] <DarkED> hi, I'm using Kubuntu 7.04, how can I get an itemized list of all my partitions and how much space is left on them?
[03:39] <Tm_T> howdy BluesKaj :)
[03:40] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: guess what, we have snow again =)
[03:40] <DarkED> I went into 'Disks' in system settings but it doesnt tell you how much space remains on a given partition
[03:40] <stoft> DarkED: df -h
[03:40] <DarkED> stoft: thank you :)
[03:40] <stoft> yw
[03:41] <ericsson> Are there any official reports as to if there is an increasing DoS- and virus epedemic directed towards *NIX symtems, since the release of Vista?
[03:41] <DarkED> nice, that works
[03:41] <ericsson> symtems could be systems ;)
[03:41] <DarkED> now, how do i clear the apt-cache? the folder where packages go after download but before install?
[03:41] <stoft> DarkED: :)
[03:41] <ferox> does anyone know how to sobstitute kwin by compiz?
[03:41] <ferox> does anyone know how to sobstitute kwin with compiz?
[03:41] <Jucato> DarkED: sudo apt-get clean
[03:41] <stoft> DarkED: sudo apt-get clean
[03:41] <ericsson> DarkED: apt-get clean
[03:41] <BluesKaj> Tm_T: ..it happens here too at this time of yr :(
[03:41] <ericsson> lol
[03:41] <DarkED> heh thanks
[03:42] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: well, atleast it's cleaner in towns
[03:42] <epimeth> Dolphin's default "Storage Media" icon is ugly... I want the one that is used in the panel... where is that icon located?
[03:42] <Hobbsee> !compix
[03:42] <DarkED> yeah, that definitely freed up some space on root (about 1.5gig)
[03:42] <DarkED> nice
[03:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:42] <Hobbsee> !compiz
[03:42] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:42] <Hobbsee> ferox: ^
[03:43] <Hobbsee> epimeth: locate *.png and look in a likely place. /usr/share/icons, maybe
[03:44] <epimeth> cheers Hobbsee... and while we're talking about Dolphin... how do I get that to be my default file manager?  there's nothing in "default applications" in the system settings?
[03:45] <BluesKaj> Tm_T: heh it was 22C and sunny yesterday and we had a BBQ dinner...but it may snow tonite ...strange this so called "Global Warming"
[03:45] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: indeed
[03:45] <Jucato> epimeth: Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations -> inode -> directory
[03:45] <Hobbsee> thanks Jucato
[03:45] <ericsson> Where would I go to get rid of that annoying translucent blue rectangle when running KDE?
[03:45] <ferox> Hobbsee:  what "^" means?
[03:45] <Hobbsee> ferox: means "look up"
[03:45] <Jucato> ferox: look up :)
[03:45] <Tm_T> ericsson: what where?
[03:45] <Hobbsee> ferox: usually at the previous line
[03:45] <ferox> :)
[03:46] <Jucato> Hobbsee: oh I thought you were around when Tonio told me that
[03:46] <ericsson> Tm_T: That there ;) No, seriously..the blue rectangle that shows when you 'click 'n drag' on the KDE desktop
[03:46] <Hobbsee> Jucato: may well have been, but i might not have actually been looking at irc
[03:46] <Tm_T> ericsson: hmm, you mean selection?
[03:46] <Jucato> Rubberband effect in Appearance -> Style -> Effects tab ?
[03:47] <ericsson> Tm_T: Yeah, I guess one could call it that as well ;) Mouse-cursor-thingie-sluggish-rubbish
[03:47] <Tm_T> ericsson: ... I dont get any
[03:47] <epimeth> cheers Jucato
[03:47] <Tm_T> so without pic can't know what you really mean
[03:47] <ericsson> Tm_T: You should celebrate it then, today already ;)
[03:47] <BluesKaj> epimeth, did you check in adept?
[03:48] <ericsson> Tm_T: It doesn't show in snap-shot :/
[03:48] <Tm_T> ericsson: =)
[03:48] <ericsson> Tm_T: I am SO not used to GUI ;)
[03:49] <epimeth> BluesKaj: check what in adept?
[03:49] <Tm_T> ericsson: have camera around? ;--P
[03:49] <ericsson> Tm_T: hahah, you'd wish :)
[03:50] <Tm_T> heh, too easy ;)
[03:50] <BluesKaj> sorry epimeth , I misread , i thought you were looking to install dolphin
[03:50] <Hobbsee> surgy: you asked about symlinks, i told you.  i'm not very familiar with how wine works, to offer a solution on how to mount the "z:" drive, which, afaik, doesnt actually exist in linux, and i think wine might create it.  so you might have to ask in ##winehq for that part.
[03:52] <ericsson> Jucato: I found some rubber-thingie there but I already un-ticked "enable GUI effects". Them flashy thingies hurts my eyes!
[03:53] <ericsson> Tm_T: You should be happy not to know what it is...I can't get rid of that bloody thing ;)
[03:53] <stoft> ericsson: install fluxbox, ion, ratpoison or something. :)
[03:53] <ericsson> stoft: I tried pouring coca-cola over the monitor, didn't help..
[03:54] <ericsson> Ehh...
[03:55] <ericsson> Ok people, I had to enable ALL GUI effects, then remove the rubber-band-thingie, then turn off ALL GUI effects, and now it's gone!
[03:55] <BluesKaj> eye candy ...dunno why ppl bother
[03:55] <Tm_T> ericsson: haha, I fiddled around that thing and now kwin crashed =)
[03:56] <ericsson> Tm_T: It was under System Settings - > Apperance -> Styles -> Effects
[03:56] <Tm_T> ericsson: yes
[03:56] <ericsson> Not very stable thing :)
[03:57] <ericsson> BluesKaj: Eyecandy, that's what we call Vista around here..
[03:57] <ericsson> Or..correction, that's not even candy..
[03:57] <balint> where can i check how many free space do i have on my ext3 partition?
[03:57] <ericsson> Jucato: I had, when trying to turn it off :)
[03:57] <Jucato> :P
[03:57] <ericsson> balint: df -H
[03:57] <Jucato> balint: df -h
[03:57] <Aaronfromchina> how to turn off sound when I get a message in Kopete?
[03:58] <balint> and in GUI is it possible to check? just wanna know :)
[03:58] <Jucato> balint: if you want a GUI to go with it, try installing Filelight
[03:58] <_4strO> Aaronfromchina: in kopette options ?
[03:58] <balint> but how could this be? i mean that kde is not able to show free space? :)
[03:58] <Jucato> balint: or, right-click on any empty space in Konqueror (file manager) and select properties. the bottom part
[03:59] <_4strO> balint: just pass your mouse pointer on a dir
[03:59] <Aaronfromchina> _4strO: I found it. thanks. :)
[04:00] <balint> damn, i only got 841 MB free space :'(
[04:00] <stoft> !kdf | balint
[04:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:00] <BluesKaj> ericsson: beryl isn't classified as eye candy :) ...well , maybe window dressing eh ?
[04:00] <stoft> balint: kdf = KDiskFree displays the available file devices (hard drive partitions, floppy and CD drives, etc.) along with information on their capacity, free space, type and mount point. It also allows you to mount and unmount drives and view them in a file manager.
[04:01] <ericsson> BluesKaj: Never tried it, probably won't either..I already have problems with KDE :)
[04:01] <stoft> BluesKaj: are you running beryl?
[04:01] <BluesKaj> ok
[04:02] <BluesKaj> nope stoft
[04:02] <balint> in adept i only find gtkdiskfree, thats for gnome, will it work for kde?
[04:03] <stoft> balint: hang on
[04:03] <BluesKaj> balint: the kde version is 'kdf'
[04:03] <stoft> balint: kdf is part of kdeutilities I think
[04:03] <balint> thx
[04:03] <carles> erm
[04:03] <balint> yes, kdf is the point
[04:04] <carles> do ya know how can i access to my other hd info (ntfs)?
[04:04] <ericsson> !ntfs-3g
[04:04] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:04] <nanothief> hey I'm having problems installing php5 and apache2 with kubuntu feisty
[04:04] <balint> and how can i empty the package cache? or it unloads it automaticallyy?
[04:04] <stoft> balint: sudo apt-get clean
[04:04] <carles> thx
[04:05] <nanothief> the html pages load, but php pages don't
[04:05] <stoft> balint: I can't find kdf/kdeutils in adept, I would just do "sudo apt-get install kdf"
[04:05] <balint> !kdirstat
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdirstat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <balint> kdirstat is also good
[04:05] <balint> u just found it
[04:05] <Hobbsee> stoft: correct
[04:06] <Hobbsee> stoft: assuming you have universe
[04:06] <balint> yupppppii after cleaning, i have 1,5 GB free space :D:D:D:
[04:07] <morpheus> anybody know anything about database replication on a kubuntu server (using mysql)?
[04:07] <stoft> nanothief: check your /etc/apache2/mods-enabled to see if php is there
[04:08] <BluesKaj> stoft:  did you install kde ?
[04:08] <nanothief> stoft: ok
[04:08] <korobase> Any one here work on linux platform for developing game software?
[04:09] <stoft> BluesKaj: eh... yes. but I think I missed the context of your question...
[04:09] <BluesKaj> nm
[04:09] <nanothief> stoft: i think it is, there is a file in that folder called php5.conf
[04:10] <korobase> How to set up a develop environment for game programming?
[04:10] <korobase> in ubuntu linux.
[04:10] <stoft> nanothief: and a php5.load as well?
[04:10] <nanothief> stoft: yes
[04:10] <stoft> k
[04:11] <stoft> nanothief: have you restarted apache after install of php?
[04:11] <BluesKaj> ktorrent keeps crashing as if there was a timer inside it ... every hr it seems
[04:11] <ericsson> Wouldn't it be enough to add index.php to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf now?
[04:11] <D4kk0n> how to enable mp3 support in Amarok?
[04:12] <LjL> !mp3 > D4kk0n    (D4kk0n, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:12] <stoft> ericsson: actually I'm not sure, I've fiddled more with apache under windows than linux. :-/
[04:12] <nanothief> stoft: yes, i did a restart, and a force-reload. I'm getting the output of http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18383/
[04:12] <Bluetooth> hi all
[04:12] <Bluetooth> need help
[04:12] <Bluetooth> having problems while upgrading to 7.04
[04:13] <ericsson> nanothief: Try to add index.php to DirectoryIndex in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf then..
[04:13] <stoft> nanothief: in other words something else is already listening on port 80?
[04:14] <Bluetooth> http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1579/snapshot3rd1.png
[04:14] <Bluetooth> this is a screenshot
[04:14] <nanothief> stoft: yes, but I'm not sure what it could be (i only installed feisty a week ago)
[04:14] <Bluetooth> having this output on Adept
[04:14] <stoft> nanothief, you can probably figure it out with "lsof", hang on, need to read up on the man page.
[04:15] <ericsson> nanothief: do netstat -tap in terminal
[04:17] <Bluetooth> hello
[04:17] <nanothief> I did the netstat -tap command, and i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18385/
[04:17] <Bluetooth> can anybody help me
[04:17] <stoft> Bluetooth: just ask your quesiton instead of waiting for someone to say yes
[04:18] <Hobbsee> !anyone | Bluetooth
[04:18] <ubotu> Bluetooth: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:18] <pike_> guys im in virtualpc (long story) getty isnt working and neither is mouse. is there a shortcut key to open konsole?
[04:18] <nanothief> erricsson: do i just add the line "index.php" to the apache2.conf file?
[04:18] <ericsson> nanothief: try kill 5135
[04:19] <Bluetooth> having problems while upgrading to 7.04
[04:19] <Bluetooth> output of Adept on screenshot http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1579/snapshot3rd1.png
[04:19] <ericsson> nanothief: Yes, under the category DirectoryIndex, there you add index.php
[04:19] <Bluetooth> I ASKED
[04:20] <nanothief> ericsson: the kill command fixed it :)
[04:20] <ericsson> brilliant :)
[04:20] <nanothief> ericsson: umm how do I fix it permanently?
[04:21] <ericsson> nanothief: it should work now, it was just a process that was stuck (remains of apache)
[04:21] <nanothief> oh okay
[04:21] <balint> How can I lock session with a command???
[04:21] <ericsson> nanothief: but try /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[04:22] <nanothief> ericsson: its still good. Thanks for your help :D
[04:23] <ericsson> nanothief: no problems, mate..
[04:24] <balint> anybody knows how to lock?
[04:25] <pike_> no default kde shortcut to open konsone?
[04:25] <pike_> shortcut key I mean
[04:25] <stoft> balint: with a key? :) there is a lock applet, otherwise I would look through global shortcuts, it might be there
[04:25] <stoft> pike_: create one under settings
[04:25] <balint> stoft i would like to lock from alt-f2 command line
[04:26] <stoft> balint: ctrl+alt+L locks
[04:26] <balint> thx
[04:26] <pike_> stoft: im in ms virtulpc and cant alt-f? and mouse isnt working.. :)
[04:26] <stoft> brb - coffee
[04:26] <Bluetooth> so
[04:26] <Bluetooth> still nobody?
[04:26] <formatter> stoft: if i want install x-server in xubuntu in kubuntu, is there are problem with it..
[04:27] <Bluetooth> hello
[04:27] <Bluetooth> having problems while upgrading to 7.04
[04:27] <Bluetooth> output of Adept on screenshot http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/1579/snapshot3rd1.png
[04:28] <The_Machine> Having an issue with 7.04 on my laptop.  It seems every other time it won't pick up any wireless networks..
[04:29] <The_Machine> but i'm POSITIVE they're in range.  It also seems to coincide with the fact that i won't have any AC plugged in, but it says that there is no battery detected..
[04:29] <The_Machine> but, the battery thing aside (unless you think they're related)
[04:30] <formatter> the_machines:yes,my laptop with kubuntu cant connecting to the network too..
[04:30] <The_Machine> formatter - does it ever work?
[04:30] <The_Machine> because half the time it'll show wireless networks
[04:30] <formatter> never..
[04:30] <ericsson> Bluetooth: what version are you running at the moment=?
[04:30] <The_Machine> oh, well
[04:30] <The_Machine> seems to be a different issue
[04:31] <Bluetooth> 5.10
[04:31] <The_Machine> because mine has worked several times
[04:31] <formatter> the_machines:last day i've got information with kwlan..but it still cant connectin..
[04:32] <ubuntu> LjL do you work here??
[04:32] <ericsson> Bluetooth: Try to write: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f --fix-missing
[04:33] <ubuntu> How do I find my mac adress?
[04:33] <LjL> ubuntu: what do you mean now
[04:33] <ubuntu> You are always here
[04:33] <LjL> ubuntu: no, i don't "work" here.
[04:33] <ubuntu> Do you get paid, or is a woluntair helper or something?
[04:33] <LjL> the latter
[04:33] <ubuntu> And how do I find my mac adress?
[04:34] <ericsson> ubuntu: It would be as easy as ifconfig
[04:35] <jhutchins> LjL: We're mostly just fellow users who came here looking for answers and stayed to help those who we could.
[04:35] <Bluetooth> :))))
[04:35] <Bluetooth> started to install now
[04:35] <LjL> jhutchins: ehm, i don't you meant that for me? =)
[04:35] <formatter> whois
[04:35] <ubuntu> LjL Do you have a job, or something?
[04:35] <ericsson> Bluetooth: sounds like it worked :)
[04:35] <Bluetooth> seems to be fine
[04:35] <Bluetooth> thanx
[04:35] <Bluetooth> :))
[04:35] <LjL> ubuntu: my business honestly, and we're offtopic
[04:35] <ericsson> Bluetooth: No problems mate..
[04:35] <stoft> pike_: solve your problem yet?
[04:36] <ubuntu> Do I need the bluetoot programs if I don't have a bluetoot card?
[04:37] <ericsson> ubuntu: nope :)
[04:37] <pike_> stoft: nope
[04:37] <ubuntu> What is berryl?
[04:37] <ubuntu> Do I need it??
[04:37] <The_Machine> no.
[04:37] <The_Machine> :)
[04:37] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, beryl-project.org
[04:37] <The_Machine> it's basically eyecandy/themes
[04:37] <pike_> stoft: i think my main prob is my IT dep and their fear of vmware
[04:37] <stoft> pike_: try alt+space, if you've got katapult running it will let you start konsole
[04:37] <formatter> heyy,everyone can help me..i've got problem with my wifi network cant connecting to the network..
[04:37] <The_Machine> pike - the rest of my dept. fears VMWare
[04:38] <The_Machine> i'm the only one who uses it
[04:38] <The_Machine> sucks :/
[04:38] <ericsson> BluesKaj would argue that it's NOT eyecandy, it's windos dressing according to him ;)
[04:38] <stoft> pike_: virtualpc, is that the ms ware?
[04:38] <The_Machine> ericsson: dressing = eyecandy.
[04:38] <The_Machine> :P :)
[04:39] <BluesKaj> eyecandy is windowdressing , ericsson :)
[04:39] <ericsson> The_Machine: I'm to old for this :)
[04:39] <ubuntu> The login screen how do I change it so I wont have to write my username (I still want to write te password)??
[04:39] <adaptr> system -> admin -> login window
[04:39] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, that is the default behaviour for KDM
[04:39] <ericsson> ok, conclusion: beryl = thick custard dressing
[04:40] <pike_> stoft: yeah
[04:40] <The_Machine> old?  hmm.
[04:40] <ubuntu> I'm using kubuntu, there is no admin in system
[04:40] <BluesKaj> gents , for some reason I'm getting ./configure errors to do with GTK_CONFIG, when installing Xtraceroute ...I also get a "makefile" error "notargets specified . I guess it has to do with that "./configure" isn't creating the make file...any suggestions ?
[04:40] <The_Machine> (how old?) :)
[04:40] <ericsson> ubuntu: the root user is locked by default
[04:40] <ubuntu> I know
[04:40] <ubuntu> Andit is irrelevant
[04:41] <ericsson> The_Machine: Heading up to mid-way, to put it that way..
[04:41] <ubuntu> Yorokobi, No it only shows the username of the last logged in person-
[04:41] <ericsson> BluesKaj: got compiler?
[04:41] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, yep, the default behaviour. Do you want it to show the _same_ user name every time?
[04:41] <The_Machine> pfft.  that isn't old!
[04:41] <stoft> pike_: my colleague uses that quite a bit, unfortunately he's not here right now. however there's some trick to activating function key functionality, I can't remember if it's F8 or similar, I would google for it.
[04:42] <ubuntu> No, I want it to list alll users like in windows xp.
[04:42] <BluesKaj> not installed by default , ericsson ?
[04:42] <ericsson> The_Machine: In my opinion I'm already old 'n grey ;)
[04:42] <Yorokobi> There *might* be a KDM theme that allows that ...
[04:42] <pike_> stoft: i see thx
[04:43] <ubuntu> If i scerw up kdm, would it be a big problem to restore it?
[04:43] <stoft> pike_: hope you find it, handy to have :D
[04:44] <ericsson> BluesKaj: Not sure about 7.04, but I would say no, not by default..
[04:44] <ubuntu> I found it, thanks
[04:44] <deviance> !photoshop
[04:44] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[04:45] <mahdi> neat.
[04:45] <Bluetooth> ericsson, got error
[04:45] <BluesKaj> !compiler
[04:45] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:45] <ericsson> Bluetooth: what did it say now?
[04:45] <Bluetooth> returned error 1
[04:46] <ericsson> Bluetooth: would you care to elaborate further on that? :)
[04:47] <Bluetooth> donno
[04:47] <BluesKaj> hmmm strange ericsson...I installed build-essential ,first thing ...din't realize it was called 'compiler' ...but it must be broken
[04:47] <ubuntu> How do I install kdm theme manager??
[04:47] <ericsson> Bluetooth: So, the upgrade just stopped, giving you an error just saying: error1, and then nothing?
[04:48] <Bluetooth> yes
[04:48] <Bluetooth> it said apt-get, or some other program, returned error 1
[04:48] <ericsson> BluesKaj: Could be you need -dev packages as well
[04:48] <Bluetooth> I started it again
[04:48] <Bluetooth> intalling till now
[04:48] <Bluetooth> will see
[04:49] <dewey> good day mates
[04:50] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, Kmenu->System Settings->Advanced->Login Manager, switch to Administrator and put check marks next to everyone you want to show up as well as next to the "Show list" option.
[04:50] <dewey> I upgraded to feisty and now mpg files will not play but I can paly wmv files using kaffeinw?
[04:50] <ericsson> Bluetooth: you could try to to do the following: sudo apt-get clean apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade -f --fix-missing
[04:50] <Yorokobi> ubuntu, under the Users tab
[04:50] <Bluetooth> will try if it will stop again
[04:50] <Bluetooth> going fine now
[04:51] <ericsson> Bluetooth: Let it run if it runs..
[04:51] <Bluetooth> yeah
[04:51] <Bluetooth> and another thing
[04:52] <Bluetooth> is it possible to access a web server by localhost?
[04:52] <Bluetooth> because when I try to it returns Page could not be found
[04:52] <dec> anyone know why when I shut down feisty it will not shut down completely, i have to turn the machine off
[04:53] <Bluetooth> but I can access it from another PCs in network
[04:53] <ubuntu> How can I use diffrent images for diffrent accounts??
[04:53] <ericsson> !medibuntu | dewey
[04:53] <ubotu> dewey: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[04:54] <mahdi> dec: when you use 'sudo shutdown now' from the konsole does it give any errors?
[04:54] <ericsson> Bluetooth: Are you running the server on the same machine as the one you are accessing it from?
[04:55] <dec> haven't tried that so should i use alt f2 and then run sudo shutdown now
[04:55] <mahdi> try it and see if it returns anything funky, dec
[04:55] <dec> if it does then what
[04:55] <ubuntu> what is medibuntu??
[04:55] <Bluetooth> yes
[04:56] <mahdi> dec: come back and show me what the error is, or we can just cross that off and move on to another theory
[04:56] <Bluetooth> I tried both localhost and <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:56] <Bluetooth> won't work
[04:56] <dec> ok
[04:56] <ericsson> ubuntu: files and contents that could not be included in the distrubution for legal reasons, like various video supports
[04:56] <Bluetooth> but apache says it uses <IP_ADDRESS> as domain name
[04:57] <ericsson> Bluetooth: If I don't remember wrong, there is a line in apache's httpd.conf which says: allow localhost yes|no
[04:57] <ubuntu> But I can download them?
[04:58] <ericsson> ubuntu: read on that page, it's up to your own discretion how you use them
[04:58] <ubuntu> What version of KDE is the newest?
[04:58] <Jucato> ubuntu: KDE 3.5.6
[04:58] <Jucato> (3.5.7 will be out by May)
[04:58] <ubuntu> So kde 4 isn't released yet?
[04:59] <Jucato> nope. target date is on October
[04:59] <Jucato> (quite tentative)
[04:59] <Bluetooth> ok. where is this file?? :)
[04:59] <Bluetooth> (I'm not good in linux file structure :)
[04:59] <nuu> ericsson: you probably mean the server-status "special" apache page
[05:00] <dewey> er
[05:00] <nuu> theoretically if apache binds to <IP_ADDRESS> (ie all addresses), you shoudl be able to access it from every interface
[05:00] <dewey> ericsson, that  url is not opeing?
[05:00] <ericsson> nuu: Could be, but I was thinking of the /etc/apache2/httpd.conf (if that one still exists)
[05:00] <dewey> opening
[05:01] <ericsson> dewey: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[05:01] <nuu> yeah, that's apache2.conf in apache2
[05:01] <dewey> it opened fina;lly
[05:01] <ericsson> dewey: ok
[05:01] <nuu> at least on ubuntu
[05:01] <nuu> httpd.conf is there but it's just a stub
[05:01] <ericsson> nuu: ok, that makes sense :)
[05:01] <ubuntu> How do I mount a windows partion, I forgott?
[05:02] <ericsson> ubuntu: fat or nfts?
[05:02] <ubuntu> ntfs
[05:02] <ericsson> !ntfs-3g | ubuntu
[05:02] <ubotu> ubuntu: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[05:02] <Bluetooth> ericsson there is such file, but it's nearly empty
[05:02] <ubuntu> I do not need a driver, I already have one mounted, but the other one won't mount.
[05:02] <Bluetooth> contents some comments
[05:03] <ericsson> Bluetooth: as nuu said, it's a stub.
[05:03] <ericsson> ubuntu: try mount -a and see if it pops up..
[05:03] <nuu> Bluetooth: do you have a file named ports.conf ?
[05:03] <Jucato> !ntfs | ubuntu
[05:04] <ubotu> ubuntu: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:04] <Bluetooth> I have apache2.conf
[05:05] <Bluetooth> looking ther, didn't see the directive u mentioned
[05:05] <nuu> what directive ?
[05:05] <ubuntu> Ignoring /dev/sda1 - already in /etc/fstab
[05:05] <ubuntu> Ignoring /dev/sdb1 - already in /etc/fstab
[05:05] <ubuntu> it says
[05:05] <ubuntu> that
[05:05] <Bluetooth> allow localhost yes|no
[05:06] <Bluetooth> ericsson told there might such directive there
[05:06] <nuu> Bluetooth: paste output of "sudo netstat -nap | grep apache"
[05:06] <ericsson> Bluetooth: You have newer version than I'm used to..
[05:06] <dewey> ericsson, hmm I did what it said on the website and nothing happened?
[05:07] <dewey> no updates?
[05:07] <ericsson> dewey: have you tried sudo apt-get update afterwards?
[05:07] <ubuntu> Why do I have a partion for a floppy drive??
[05:08] <dewey> ericsson, yes
[05:08] <mahdi> in fstab? those aren't partitions, those are mount points
[05:08] <mad>  heres the paste: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18396/ ->  kaffeine crashed by clicking on the dvb-tab, when running as sudo it doesnt crash.. anybody knows why?
[05:08] <mahdi> and devices
[05:09] <korobase> Help me!!  /usr/bin/ld:cannot find -lXxf86vm
[05:09] <Bluetooth> pastebin.ca/465713
[05:09] <Bluetooth> there
[05:09] <korobase> which package I have not installed?
[05:09] <Bluetooth> pastebin.ca/465715 - my apache2.conf
[05:10] <dewey> Fetched 4B in 2m10s (0B/s)
[05:10] <dewey> Reading package lists... Done
[05:10] <dewey> ericsson, so everything is updated?
[05:10] <nuu> what's your problem again ?
 installed all packeges, how do I now wheter upgraded to 7.04??
[05:10] <nuu> what page you cant display
[05:11] <Bluetooth> nuu me?
[05:11] <nuu> yes
[05:11] <Bluetooth> I can't open my web server by localhost
[05:11] <Bluetooth> meaning from server itself
[05:11] <nuu> using what address ?
[05:12] <Bluetooth> localhost or <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:12] <nuu> ok what does tail /var/log/apache2/error.log say ?
[05:15] <Bluetooth> pastebin.ca/465726
 u here?
[05:16] <nuu> ok, if you try to open http://localhost , and check that error.log file again
[05:16] <nuu> do you notice anything different ?
[05:16] <nuu> or just the same stuff
[05:17] <Bluetooth> same shit
[05:17] <nuu> what's the error page you get ?
[05:17] <Bluetooth> 502
[05:17] <Bluetooth> shit it's proxy error
[05:17] <Bluetooth> :)))))
[05:17] <Bluetooth> will try to fix it now
[05:17] <nuu> haha
[05:17] <nuu> there ;)
[05:18] <nuu> you got a listening proxy on localhost:80
[05:18] <nuu> i suggest you switch port to 8081 or similar
[05:18] <Bluetooth> haha
[05:18] <Bluetooth> me idiot
[05:18] <Bluetooth> just had to add localhost to proxy exeption list
[05:18] <nuu> nah, you distracted ;)
[05:18] <Bluetooth> :)))))
[05:19] <nuu> if you add localhost to proxy exception, you wont be able to access the proxy from the local machine
[05:19] <nuu> which could be ok for you, but could as well be limiting
[05:19] <nuu> in that if you use a caching proxy, like squid, it can fasten web access time
[05:19] <nuu> therefore you may as well change the proxy port and reconfigure your lan boxes, if you got few
[05:19] <Bluetooth> nuu how to check version of Kubuntu?
[05:19] <nuu> lsb_release -a
[05:20] <Bluetooth> hurrah
[05:20] <Bluetooth> got Fiesty
[05:20] <Bluetooth> thanx a lot to <ericsson> and you, nuu
[05:20] <Bluetooth> ;)
[05:20] <nuu> np
[05:22] <Bluetooth> have to go now
[05:22] <Bluetooth> peace, mates
[05:22] <nuu> seeya
[05:23] <bob__012> stop
[05:23] <ericsson> hmm..
[05:24] <ericsson> feisty + dell = true http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/corp/biographies/en/msd_computers?c=us&l=en&s=corp
[05:30] <acidBURN> question on feisty with broadcom 4318, does it support it?
[05:33] <HymnToLife> acidBURN, it should, with ndiswrapper
[05:33] <HymnToLife> (or bcm43xx maybe)
[05:33] <acidBURN> well, I did this in dapper
[05:33] <acidBURN> now its feisty
[05:33] <acidBURN> heard they where working on a fix
[05:33] <Alarm> hello , i try to make my usb hd to be automounted when i turn it on , and unmounted when i turn it off. i did add my user in the plugdev group re-loged in . and made a pmount /dev/sda1 , and it worked without any problem. but when i turned off the the drive and then on again , i get the messege :  mount point /media/win5 is occupied
[05:33] <Alarm> how could i fix that and let my os mount it unmount when i turn it on/off
[05:34] <acidBURN> now, here where it gets fun
[05:35] <acidBURN> I purchase a netgear WG511T, pcmcia card, which work for the most part out of the box.... Hower
[05:36] <nuu> Alarm: there's no such thing as "automatic unmount"
[05:36] <nuu> if you yank the power cable off something, not even Jesus will have time to cleanly unmount whatever filesystem was on the poor thing
[05:36] <nuu> :)
[05:36] <acidBURN> however, I did see knetworkmanger show signal strength, but when rebooting, it does not show signal strength again...?
[05:36] <acidBURN>
[05:37] <nuu> you have to manually unmount the partition in use before you plug it out
[05:37] <nuu> that's the way it works
[05:37] <sunnyhours> gdm is just a login manager right? will that screw up anything on my kubuntu install?
[05:37] <Alarm> nuu,  ok unmounting it is not actullly my problem but mounting it mainly
[05:37] <nuu> gdm is the gnome desktop manager
[05:37] <nuu> automounting should work out of the box
[05:38] <Alarm> when i turn it of i have to write always in the console pmount /dev/sda1 to be able to view the files of that disk
[05:38] <ericsson> nuu: Are you sure Jesus can't clean it? He's quite fast you know..
[05:38] <Alarm> when i double click on the removable disk i get the message i wrote above
[05:38] <nuu> ericsson: ok maybe only Jesus ;)
[05:38] <nuu> and Chuck Norris, of course
[05:38] <ericsson> Yeah, chuck can if anyone can
[05:39] <Alarm> steven cegal also, but i dont think he can help me much with the external drive at the moment :)
[05:39] <sunnyhours> nuu: what would you recommend for setting a particular user to autologin with fluxbox on startup of my kubuntu system?
[05:39] <acidBURN> wouldn't the netgear WG511T give me more native support than the broadcom 4318 ?
[05:39] <nuu> not sure how to set someone to autologin, you should have a desktop manager choice at logon
[05:39] <ericsson> Has anyone here tried zimbra-server?
[05:39] <nuu> can't help there buddy, sorry
[05:40] <sunnyhours> nuu: no worries.... thanks
[05:40] <nuu> np
[05:41] <nuu> Alarm: is your partition in /etc/fstab ?
[05:41] <Alarm> no, i was told that it doesnt need to be
[05:41] <nuu> indeed, it doesn't
[05:41] <fulat2k> rather off topic... anyone here can recommend a good timesheet tracking application?  has to be open source. :)
[05:41] <Alarm> so i did remove it
[05:42] <ericsson> Yorokobi: I am in the middle of reading/installing that cr**
[05:42] <nuu> the hal/udev automounter kicks in, and allocates a temporary mountpoint for it
[05:42] <nuu> so what do you get, when you plug the disk in ?
[05:42] <Alarm> but dont get it what has the /media/win5 dir to do with
[05:42] <Alarm> the dialog window opens , to press ok (to open it) or cancel
[05:42] <nuu> and it opens ? ie, it's correctly automounted ?
[05:43] <Alarm> no i get the error message : the mount point /media/win5 is allready occupied
[05:43] <Alarm> although : rockpc:/home/alarm# umount /media/win5 umount: /media/win5: not mounted
[05:43] <nuu> what does "mount | grep win5" report ?
[05:43] <Alarm> nothing , no output
[05:44] <nuu> hm
[05:44] <Alarm> as i said. i did add my user in the plugdev group and reloged
[05:44] <nuu> what's the label of the partition ?
[05:44] <nuu> and what's the filesystem you're trying to mount ?
[05:45] <Alarm> then i did pmount /dev/sda1 and it got mounted. i know that if i will do it now, it will be ok . but once i turn it off and on again, i get the same message with "occupied"
[05:45] <Alarm> ntfs
[05:45] <nuu> is the label of that ntfs partition "win5" by any chance ?
[05:45] <Alarm> no , if u mean the title lable of the drive its Movable
[05:46] <nuu> hm, ok
[05:46] <nuu> try pmount /dev/sda1 usbdisk
[05:46] <Alarm> win5 was a direcotry that i created yesterday by trying to mount it with the fstab
[05:46] <nuu> see if it mounts like that
[05:46] <Alarm> but i didnt use it since then
[05:46] <Alarm> neither is there any other entry with the /dev/sda1 in the fstab anymore
[05:47] <Alarm> nuu,  as i said, it mounts like that. it mounts with pmount /dev/sda1 (without the usbdisk) , but when i turn off (even if before turning off i "remove safely" ) the disk, and then turn it on again, and try to get in the partition i get again the same error messege, and have to pmount it again
[05:49] <nuu> ok, it's almost as if pmount isnt correctly releasing the mountpoint
[05:49] <ericsson> Anyone know what NPTL is?
[05:49] <nuu> if i get this right
[05:49] <Alarm> frankly talking, i couldnt find something online that i could understand and could help me also. i am sure there is something but where :)
[05:49] <Alarm> nuu believe me i know less than u do :) so could be that u are right
[05:49] <binks_work> does anyone no webdav
[05:50] <nuu> ok, let's try this..
[05:50] <nuu> mount it, and from command line, without "safely removing" it, do a pumount /dev/sda1
[05:50] <nuu> does that help any ?
[05:51] <Alarm> mount it with pmount /dev/sda1 usbdisk ?
[05:51] <nuu> yeah, usbdisk is just to make it mount somewhere else