[00:00] <ActionParsnip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/linux-screencasting-tool-kazam-goes-gstreamer-adds-pulseaudio-support/  for screen casting :)
[00:01] <jagginess> sinistrad, "I had to make sure I put the right option for my computer (an HP Pavillion HDX 16 laptop) into /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf:
[00:01] <jagginess> options snd-hda-intel model=hp-hdx
[00:01] <jagginess> "
[00:01] <jagginess> sinistrad, http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=58616&start=60 (not ubuntu forum, but source where i got that from)
[00:01] <sinistrad> jagginess, Hrm. I'll look into that. It seems helpful
[00:01] <jagginess> sinistrad, echo "options snd-hda-intel model=hp-hdx" >> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[00:02] <jagginess> (use >> and not > )
[00:02] <jagginess> sinistrad, then simply reboot and see if sound works
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: that won't work
[00:02] <dlentz> jagginess, you forgot sudo?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: the file is owned by root
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> jagginess:  echo "options snd-hda-intel model=hp-hdx" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[00:03] <jagginess> sinistrad, btw you can pastebin that file if you want.. so i can take a look at it
[00:04] <jagginess> (alsa-base.conf)
[00:04] <IBMHPGOOGLE> Can someone help me when I t
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> IBMHPGOOGLE: ask and the channel will reply if it can
[00:05] <sinistrad> jagginess, which file you want paste-binned?
[00:06] <jagginess> , /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[00:06] <sinistrad> jagginess, OK
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[00:06] <drecute> please where can I download pam_nis module?
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> drecute: http://packages.ubuntu.com may help
[00:07] <OerHeks> harovali check your connection please
[00:13] <IBMHPGOOGLE> When I type sudo dpkg --configure -a it tell me this unable to access dpkg status area: read-only file system  how can I get both read and write access to the system can someone help me please
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> !fsck | IBMHPGOOGLE
[00:14] <L3top> cant touch a read only system can you?
[00:14]  * L3top would boot to live disk and fsck from there
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> maybe not but i believe the link has a how to on how to do stuff from liveCD
[00:15] <drecute> ActionParsnip: no luck
[00:15] <IBMHPGOOGLE> I deed already fsck -f -c
[00:15] <drecute> i found http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~peterb/uxsup/project/pam_nis/
[00:16] <drecute> but it is incomplete cos I can't build it
[00:16] <sinistrad> ActionParsnip, If jagginess shows back up, tell him my paste is at http://pastebin.com/QBjzP62y
[00:17] <sinistrad> ActionParsnip, I'm rebooting to see if his suggestion works.
[00:38] <donvito2> do i need to have good machine to use ubuntu effects like compiz?
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> donvito, what is the definition of a good machine
[00:38] <donvito2> I have Pentium 4 CPU 3.0 Ghz 1 GB of Ram
[00:39] <Blackshirt> Donvito2, not really..you just need vga capable running compiz
[00:39] <donvito2> and i have Geforce 6200 turbocache
[00:39] <mjrussell> Has anyone else had problems logging into Gnome since updates today/yesterday/day before?
[00:40] <donvito2> video card is geforce 6200 turbocache with 128 mb of ram
[00:40] <donvito2> will that be ok for compiz?
[00:40] <Blackshirt> Graphic with 3d rendering capability should run compiz without problem
[00:41] <donvito2> than mine doesnt have 3d rendering i think
[00:41] <Blackshirt> Donvito2, i think that was capable run compiz....
[00:41] <pbx2> How to get Java 7 on Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:41] <pbx2> JRE
[00:41] <sk8rbluscat> sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre   -- i think
[00:42] <xangua> pbx2: you can get openjdk from repositories, if you want oracle java go to it's website and download it
[00:42] <pbx2> I went to Ubuntu software center
[00:42] <pbx2> and there the reviews says it is Java 6
[00:43] <pbx2> I downloaded the .tar.gz from Oracle...but don't know what to do next?
[00:43] <RangerBob> might install synaptic and search using it
[00:43] <RangerBob> software center doesn't always show everything
[00:43] <pbx2> Synaptic is different from Ubuntu Software center?
[00:43] <sk8rbluscat> pbx2: use apt-cache search java in terminal
[00:43] <xangua> pbx2: you have the install instructions in it's web
[00:43] <RangerBob> yeah, apt-cache search jdk should show it
[00:44]  * sk8rbluscat installed ubuntu and i'm using the lubuntu shell :P
[00:44] <pbx2> and I want to do a clean install of Firefox...without all the Ubuntu "customizations" :)
[00:45] <RangerBob> you can install firefox and then remove the ubuntu addons
[00:45] <mjrussell> @pbx just disable the Ubunu Firefox extension
[00:46] <pbx2> that's not good enough...I used to try a previous release of Ubuntu and even after disabling the extension....about:crashes never showed up....then I think I had make a complete uninstall of firefox...
[00:47] <pbx2> it was saying previously that you submit crash reports to Ubuntu
[00:47] <Cerrdor> where can I find my firewall settings, I didnt install one but my DNS server keeps timing out I need to open port 53
[00:47] <RangerBob> if you're having issues did you try to temp rename your .mozilla/firefox dir and see if you still had issues?
[00:47] <i7c> Cerrdor: type sudo iptables -L    in terminal
[00:48] <Cerrdor> i7c, http://pastebin.com/XuJ5G0yr
[00:48] <donvito2> what actually is UNITY 5.0
[00:48] <Cerrdor> thats all I get
[00:48] <pbx2> RangerBob: I will just delete that folder :)
[00:49] <i7c> Cerrdor: mhm you local firewall doesnt seem to block anything.
[00:49] <i7c> your*
[00:49] <i7c> Cerrdor: can you verify that nothing else blocks your connection to DNS? like your router?
[00:50] <pbx2> The instructions on Oracle website just say to extract the tar.gz folder? That won't install JRE on Ubuntu right? http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/webnotes/install/linux/linux-jre.html
[00:50] <pbx2> *just says
[00:50] <pbx2> I don't get this part "The JRE files are installed in a directory called jre1.7.0_<version> in the current directory."
[00:50] <pbx2> ?
[00:51] <pbx2> if I extract it in Home directory
[00:51] <Cerrdor> i7c, I am in VM
[00:51] <pbx2> it wont work with Firefox / Google Chrome
[00:51] <Cerrdor> does that have anything to do with it?
[00:51] <pbx2> thats all the instructions there are?
[00:52] <i7c> Cerrdor: could be. how do you notice that your dns has time out?
[00:52] <forrest__> How does one enable HDMI audio output support?
[00:53] <Cerrdor> i7c, when I dig @my.ip.he.re mydomain.com
[00:53] <Cerrdor> times out
[00:53] <wawowe> forrest__: hit f6 in alsamixer and unmute with >
[00:54] <pbx2> Is there a way to check which Nvida driver version is installed in Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:54] <forrest__> Thank you.
[00:54] <lrojas> hi all, i just installed php5 from the standard repositories in 12.04 ( sudo apt-get install php5 ), and i'm trying to find the file php.ini-development, any idea where cna i find it?
[00:54] <Cerrdor> dig @<IP_ADDRESS> returns fine
[00:55] <Blackshirt> Pbx2, are you installed from standar repos or vendor one?
[00:55] <Cerrdor> but my IP times out
[00:55] <pbx2> Nvida X server settings says it is 295.49
[00:56] <i7c> Cerrdor: your ip means "internet ip"?
[00:56] <Blackshirt> Lrojas, you can use dpkg -L packagename to list file included with packages?
[00:56] <i7c> Cerrdor: well doessnt matter
[00:57] <i7c> Cerrdor: sounds pretty much like your can't get out of your virtual machine
[00:57] <i7c> you*
[00:57] <Cerrdor> correct
[00:57] <K1rk> I am attempting to setup an L2TP VPN server on my Ubuntu 12.04 LTS server using openswan and xl2tpd. I am having a problem connecting. I have done quite a bit of Googling, and there's an extensive Ubuntu Forums thread on this problem, but the suggestions in the thread don't fix it.
[00:57] <K1rk> Anyone have this working and be willing to trade notes with me?
[00:57] <Blackshirt> Pbx2, i think you was used vendor version
[00:57] <pbx2> I want 295.53 one which is listed on Nvidia's website, but whenever I do "sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-295.53.run" it says " You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing..."
[00:57] <pbx2> But I don't know how
[00:58] <pbx2> ?
[00:58] <i7c> Cerrdor: can you configure something about that? do tcp connections work? or is it only udp?
[00:58] <K1rk> pbx2, I remember that, that was a pain in the ass.
[00:58] <K1rk> pbx2 first of all you'll need to install it while you are in the TTY, you can't be in a desktop session.
[00:58] <aguitel> pbx2, why not install from ubuntu repo this driver?
[00:59] <olskolirc> I feel your dilima lrojas I can't google your answer
[00:59] <lrojas> Blackshirt: yes, i can... but using locate the only php.ini is the one at /etc/php5/apache2/
[00:59] <pbx2> aguitel, the ubuntu repo gives me 295.49 not 295.53
[00:59] <K1rk> pbx2, aguitel has a point.  On my desktop at work I am using the nVidia driver from the Restricted Drivers thing. It's working fine.
[00:59] <Blackshirt> Pbx2, you should install it from pure console based...not on gui environment
[01:00] <aguitel> pbx2, not difference
[01:00] <Cerrdor> i7c, how do I test that?
[01:00] <pbx2> Blackshirt, how would I go into pure console?
[01:00] <K1rk> pbx2: the hackish workaround I did, was to chmod -x the Xorg executible, go to a TTY, killall gnome-session, and run the nvidia installer. Then chmod +x the executible again and reboot.
[01:00] <K1rk> Not that I recommend doing that.
[01:00] <K1rk> But it would work
[01:01] <aguitel> pbx2, make in terminal :sudo apt-get install nvidia-current && nvidia-xconfig and restart the pc
[01:01] <Needer_of_Help> hello
[01:01] <olskolirc> !ask | Needer_of_Help
[01:01] <K1rk> Hi Needer_of_Help, please ask your question.
[01:02] <i7c> Cerrdor: do you have a GUI on that system?
[01:02] <Cerrdor> yeah
[01:02] <blindfer> alguien en español
[01:02] <aguitel> blindfer, go to #ubuntu-es
[01:02] <lrojas> how come when i do dpkg -L php5 i only get some entries
[01:03] <i7c> Cerrdor: see if you can go to google:   http://<IP_ADDRESS>/
[01:03] <pbx2> aguitel: there is always a difference with different version numbers even minor... you are saying to again use sudo apt-get ... but I wanted the official / latest version which is 295.53 .... so now I need to somehow boot into console only enviroment...but I don't know how?
[01:03] <K1rk> So, nobody paying attention to the channel right now has any insights into openswan l2tp vpn?
[01:03] <Needer_of_Help> I am a linux noob, and mysql-apache-php-drupal noob, trying to install drupal, I almost got to the end I think, the first problem is "Drupal requires you to enable the PHP extensions in the following list (see the system requirements page for more information): gd  pdo"
[01:04] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: apt-get install php5-gd?
[01:04] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: never heard of php pdo.
[01:04] <pbx2> K1rk, TTY means?
[01:04] <Needer_of_Help> Kirk I had run that but I can try it again
[01:04] <Cerrdor> i7c, yeah all internet connected aspects work fine
[01:04] <Cerrdor> thus IRC
[01:05] <K1rk> pbx2: TTY is the text terminal. Hit CTRL+ALT+F1 to go to TTY1. CTRL+ALT+F7 or 8 brings you back to GDM. I forget which one.
[01:05] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: You'll need to restart Apache for the new php extensions to be loaded.  "service apache2 restart"
[01:05] <xangua> pbx2: sudo service lightdm stop  , to exit X if that is what you want
[01:05] <pbx2> K1rk, nice :)
[01:05] <K1rk> pbx2: Glad you approve
[01:05] <forrest__> wawowe, I disabled Auto-Mute Mode in alsamixer but I still have no HDMI audio output. Was that what I was supposed to do?
[01:06] <Needer_of_Help> Reading package lists... Done
[01:06] <Needer_of_Help> Building dependency tree
[01:06] <Needer_of_Help> Reading state information... Done
[01:06] <Needer_of_Help> php5-gd is already the newest version.
[01:06] <FloodBot1> Needer_of_Help: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:06] <Needer_of_Help> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:06] <i7c> Cerrdor: so dig google.com  would work too?  then i guess nothing wrong with your machine. you should see about that DNS server
[01:06] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: and you've restarted apache2?
[01:06]  * Cerrdor facepalms
[01:07] <i7c> Cerrdor: ?
[01:07] <Needer_of_Help> Kirk, will restart now to be sure
[01:07] <wawowe> forrest__: mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=1.3 audio.mp3
[01:07] <Cerrdor> dig google.com works fine
[01:07] <Cerrdor> what exactly am I missing?
[01:07] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: I've never heard of PDO but apparently my server has it enabled. It looks like it is MySQL related. Can I trust you have also run apt-get install php5-mysql?
[01:08] <i7c> Cerrdor: i just think your domain / dns name is not configured correctly
[01:08] <cmanns> Hello
[01:08] <K1rk> !ask cmanns
[01:08] <K1rk> Oh damn the bot doesn't listen to me. -.-
[01:08] <cmanns> It's okay
[01:08] <K1rk> !ask
[01:09] <Needer_of_Help> Kirk restarting apache did fix 2 of my problems!! but it still says there is an issue with gb, same text as before
[01:09] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: gb? You mean gd?
[01:09] <Needer_of_Help> gd
[01:09] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: What's the issue with it again?
[01:09] <Needer_of_Help> Drupal requires you to enable the PHP extensions in the following list (see the system requirements page for more information):
[01:09] <Needer_of_Help>     gd
[01:09] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: Hmm.  Do you know where your webroot is?  Default is /var/www.
[01:10] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: nano /var/www/phpinfo.php
[01:10] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: In that file type "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" and save the file. Then go to it in your web browser.
[01:10] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: That will immensely help you diagnosing your issues, and will also tell us if GD is truly enabled or not.
[01:11] <olskolirc> Needer_of_Help, take it to #php damn
[01:11] <cmanns> I've booted ubuntu to determine if my computer manu was lying about AHCI being enabled by default or not (No options in bios) recent i-Core system, Intel Series 6 / C200 Sata here is dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1008971/ ; by ata_piix I'm assuming it's not in AHCI mode?
[01:11] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: If it's a public webserver you can give me the link to the phpinfo file once you've made it, and I'd be happy to take a look at it and see if anything stands out.
[01:11] <K1rk> olskolirc: They'd probably say it's not a PHP issue.
[01:11] <forrest__> wawowe: Do I paste that some where? Sorry I'm still learning.
[01:12] <olskolirc> I googled that ini file and couldn't find any information on it K1rk
[01:12] <wawowe> forrest__: as a test: apt-get install mplayer
[01:12] <K1rk> olskolirc: What INI file?
[01:12] <wawowe> forrest__: mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=1.3 someaudiofile.mp3
[01:13] <olskolirc> Needer_of_Help, cd into the Apache2 dir in /etc and find plugins avail folder and see if what you are looking for is in there
[01:13] <cmanns> Needer_of_Help, you need the graphics extension of php.
[01:13] <Needer_of_Help> Kirk think I accidentally deleted phpinfo.php
[01:13] <olskolirc> I just got done building my LAMP server
[01:13] <wawowe> forrest__: run those in terminal
[01:13] <pinguy_> hi all
[01:13] <K1rk> olskolirc and cmanns: In every case I have seen on a Ubuntu server, apt-get install php5-gd installs and enables the plugin in Apache automatically, I have never had to modify anything in /etc/apache2 to make that stuff work.
[01:13] <forrest__> Okay, thanks. Installing now.
[01:13] <bd1308> Before I file a bug against 12.04 Ubuntu + Xen dom0, is anybody else experiencing a kernel bug when dom0 starts booting ubuntu? The file is linux-3.2.0/mm/slub.c:3427
[01:14] <cmanns> K1rk, that's all thats needed.
[01:14] <pinguy_> frack
[01:14] <Needer_of_Help> olskolirc etc/apache2/ has no pluginsavailable folder
[01:15] <olskolirc> I did K1rk to get php plugins to load - the first server, I had to enable them by hand
[01:15] <olskolirc> oh wait Needer_of_Help
[01:15] <Needer_of_Help> could it be modsavailable
[01:16] <olskolirc> that's odd Needer_of_Help
[01:17] <olskolirc> I coulda swore it was Apache since I spent so much time playing with the plugins
[01:17] <wawowe> forrest__: ctrl+alt+t
[01:17] <Needer_of_Help> if it helps, I can post the url of the page I tried to follow
[01:18] <olskolirc> see?  Now I have to install this b* over again
[01:18] <olskolirc> Needer_of_Help, its in /etc/apache2
[01:18] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: I truly don't understand why you're having this problem.  GD has always "just worked" for me. lol
[01:19] <olskolirc> look for mods-available Needer_of_Help
[01:19] <olskolirc> think it won't?
[01:19] <Needer_of_Help> olskolirc I do have modsavailable
[01:21] <Needer_of_Help> olskolirc many files inside but not any that have gd in the name
[01:22] <olskolirc> refresh me exactly the file you are looking for and what does it do?
[01:23] <Needer_of_Help> olskolirc I got it.... added "extension=gd.so" to php.ini and restart apache
[01:23] <olskolirc> Nice move Needer_of_Help
[01:23] <olskolirc> NEXT
[01:23] <olskolirc> I'm here all night :-)
[01:24] <Needer_of_Help> thanks for help, will now try the next step of install
[01:24] <K1rk> Needer_of_Help: Glad to be of assistance
[01:25] <K1rk> Nobody wants to take a crack at this? https://goput.it/v65.txt
[01:25] <olskolirc> I followd this one Needer_of_Help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:25] <xisor> hi can anyone help me setup a liveUSB for 12.04? i dont have an optical drive and still want to be able to install kubuntu/ubuntu/ whatever buntu i want:P
[01:26] <olskolirc> hold on K1rk
[01:26] <xangua> !usb | xisor
[01:26] <Needer_of_Help> thanks Kirk, olskoirc
[01:26] <forrest__> wawowe: I installed mplayer but the second part failed I think. Was it supposed to play the audio file through HDMI?
[01:27] <xisor> do i need the 64 bit version of kubuntu? or is 32 bit fine?
[01:28] <wawowe> forrest__: yes
[01:28] <olskolirc> xisor, depends on what bit your machine is
[01:29] <olskolirc> K1rk, what are you using to tunnel?
[01:29] <xisor> its a 64bit capable machine, i was just wondering if its worth bothering with a 64bit distro, im new to linux im setting it up as a media center
[01:29] <xisor> so no need for winblows on it
[01:29] <K1rk> olskolirc: I was using the iPad VPN client. Testing on Windows 7 now
[01:29] <wawowe> forrest__: echo "autospawn = no" > ~/.pulse/client.conf && killall pulseaudio
[01:30] <xisor> ok wait, this says i can use any iso image i want using this method? like for any of the versions of ubuntu?
[01:30] <L3top> xisor: 32 is fine. Most everything 64 is running is 32 anyway, and with the PAE kernel memory isnt an issue.
[01:30] <cmanns> xisor, yeah may as well run 32
[01:31] <olskolirc> oh K1rk I don't do windows
[01:31] <xisor> whats the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu other than kde vs gnome? and which one is better?
[01:32] <L3top> xisor: both are buntu under the sheets, I prefer kde... but this is not a good channel for polls
[01:32] <xisor> no im asking what the differences are L3top
[01:33] <xisor> so i know which one to try
[01:33] <xangua> (20:32:41) L3top: xisor: both are buntu
[01:33] <forrest__> wawowe: I ran that in terminal. I didn't see or hear anything. What was supposed to happen?
[01:33] <cmanns> xisor, it's the user interface
[01:33] <cmanns> You're going to use this as a htpc?
[01:34] <xisor> cmanns: yes, i was considering lxde so that would be... lubuntu right?
[01:34] <Gumby> does anyone know if there is a way to reset a wifi card in network manager.  It appears that its config is corrupt or something as network manager is telling me the hardware switch is set to off.  When I boot with a livecd the wifi works without me touching the hardware switch
[01:34] <wawowe> forrest__: nothing. now run mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=1.3 yourmusic.mp3
[01:35] <cmanns> xisor, http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu
[01:35] <cmanns> Yeah looks like lubuntu would be a godo choice
[01:35] <cmanns> I'm on Xubuntu
[01:35] <xisor> xubuntu is xfce?
[01:35] <olskolirc> !anyone
[01:35] <primefalcon> Lubuntu is a good choice I've used it for a few years (was using lxde before Lubuntu as well)
[01:35] <olskolirc> more details Gumby
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> xisor: different default apps and diferent default desktop
[01:35] <xisor> can i unstall standard ubuntu and add lxde to it? or is that hard?
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> xisor: sure
[01:36] <xisor> once i get it running can i come back for help with that? :D
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> xisor: you will just have the choice of desktop when you log in
[01:36] <primefalcon> xisor: xubuntu ==xfce, lubuntu == lxde, kubuntu == kde
[01:36] <olskolirc> sudo apt-get install lxde xisor when you get to your ubuntu terminal
[01:36] <xisor> ActionParsnip: is there a way to set it to automatically log me in regardless of which interface im using?
[01:36] <olskolirc> Log out and choose lxde from the login sessions menu xisor
[01:36] <Gumby> olskolirc: what more details would you like?  It worked, now it doesnt.  The only change I made was to edit the settings of a wifi network which I have now completely deleted.  I think my question stands, is there a way to reset or delete/re-add a wifi card from network manager
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> xisor: the last session for each user is remembered
[01:37] <primefalcon> prob be better to sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop since that will install all the recomended aps as well
[01:37] <olskolirc> specs Gumby
[01:38] <Gumby> olskolirc: ubuntu 12.04 amd64, AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter
[01:38] <L3top> xisor: what you want is probably a media center specific distro, like mythbuntu, xbmc, or something more involved like linuxmce...
[01:39] <Pirat> hi, anyone here to talk with? ;)
[01:40] <primefalcon> quick open question, does anyone know of a script or such that will do a mv except with a progress meter?
[01:40] <ScottyK> greetings! I've got a notebook dualbooting Win7 and Kubuntu 12.04. I want to try Ubuntu 12.04. Can I triple boot, or is there a way to use the Kubuntu to log into Ubuntu?
[01:40] <LinuX2half> How can I update Rhythmebox?
[01:40] <primefalcon> ScottyK: just install kde and unity and choose which desktop you ant at boot
[01:40] <wilee-nilee> ScottyK, you can install ubuntu with the kubuntu, and depending on your partition set up have it as another install.
[01:41] <xangua> ScottyK: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if you want to install ubuntu, you can also Try ubuntu on a live usb
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> ScottyK: you can install kde on Ubuntu if you want and select it at logon
[01:41] <LinuX2half> There seems to be no repoistry for that.
[01:41] <olskolirc> Gumby, I'm reading that your card is unstable on Ubuntu.  This may pose as a good solution for you though http://askubuntu.com/questions/90077/ndiswrapper-driver-loaded-but-not-being-used
[01:41] <olskolirc> what is your rhythmebox version LinuX2half
[01:41] <Gumby> olskolirc: thats odd.  I've been using it for two years now with 0 issues whatsover
[01:41] <LinuX2half> olskolirc: 2.96
[01:41] <olskolirc> old solutions are good solutions Gumby
[01:42] <alusion> How do I use htop ntop iftop iotop powertop or any of those tops, and are they that useful to know?
[01:42] <Gumby> olskolirc: the issue is not with the card.  It is a software issue, I believe the config to be corrupt.  I can boot a livecd of 12.04 and the card turns on without any problems
[01:42] <olskolirc> Gumby, what happens if you pull the card out and put it back in
[01:42] <olskolirc> hardware detection Gumby
[01:43] <Gumby> what about it?
[01:43] <Gumby> the hardware is detected
[01:43] <Gumby> it is a matter of what state the OS is putting it in by default
[01:43] <forrest__> wawowe: I keep trying different audio files but its not able to find them or that it cannot connect to socket.
[01:43] <olskolirc> ndiswrapper or wicd-gtk would get it going again Gumby
[01:44] <Gumby> olskolirc: if wicd-gtk would get it working then it isnt a hardware issue obviously.
[01:44] <olskolirc> I'm good for ripping out config files, rebooting and the machine gives me new ones
[01:44] <Gumby> so, yes... this may be a solution... but I'd rather fix the problem
[01:45] <ububash> hello
[01:46] <ububash> who can help me with getting beep to work?
[01:46] <ububash> any1 here?
[01:47] <LordOfTime> ububash:  patience
[01:47] <olskolirc> what's wrong with beep?
[01:47] <ububash> k
[01:47] <LordOfTime> ububash:  "beep"?
[01:47] <olskolirc> !patience
[01:47] <alusion> does sudo apt-get update    just list the files or updates them as well
[01:47] <wawowe> forrest__: paste this in ~/.asoundrc : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009012/
[01:47] <ScottyK> great, thanks! installing Ubuntu from within Kubuntu, will it adversy affect the Kubuntu install, or does it not matter?
[01:47] <yeats> alusion: it updates your local package cache
[01:48] <yeats> alusion: it doesn
[01:48] <alusion> what should I do to install updates
[01:48] <yeats> alusion: sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:48] <alusion> oh okay well that is what i mentioned lol
[01:49] <yeats> alusion: huh?
[01:49] <alusion> my cowsay doesn't work
[01:49] <alusion> lol
[01:49] <alusion> nvm got it
[01:50] <ububash> after reviewing blacklist.conf, I see no reason beep shouldn't work
[01:51] <din> ububash: is the volume up? ;)
[01:51] <OerHeks> ububash, open terminal: alsamixer ( maybe pc speaker is muted)
[01:51] <ububash> yeah, alsamixer good, espeak works
[01:52] <alusion> What are some things I should watch out for when it comes to compiz effects on top of cairo-dock / gnome shell
[01:53] <ububash> I suppose I could check aptitude for another beep generator...beep has never failed me before
[01:53] <ububash> weird
[01:54] <zivester> is there a case where `sudo rm file` would give a permission denied? (its an nfs mount, but a simple `rm file` works
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> zivester: mounted read only maybe
[01:55] <zivester> nah, the user im sudo'ing from can remove the file just fine... but i need sudo to have write permissions to the file
[01:56] <ace7> Hi, I just finished installing ubuntu, but why I'm not seeing my partition d and e? I thought ubuntu will only install on c only...
[01:56] <meowso> someone tell me how to chose a kernel in a gui?
[01:56] <din> zivester: if "no_root_squash" isn't enabled on the nfs mount then root won't be able to act on it.
[01:56] <olskolirc> ace7, df -H
[01:57] <ace7> df-H?
[01:57] <ace7> put it at terminal?
[01:57] <olskolirc> df  -H
[01:57] <ace7> df -H
[01:57] <olskolirc> with a space yes in the terminal
[01:57] <ace7> ok
[01:57] <olskolirc> hey when is ChanServ going to give me op
[01:58] <olskolirc> I never heard of it meowso
[01:59] <graingert> Who is responsible for www.ubuntu.com?
[01:59] <olskolirc> why do you want to do that meowso
[01:59] <olskolirc> Canonical graingert
[01:59] <tensorpudding> !canonical
[01:59] <graingert> olskolirc: as in someone I can contract on IRC
[02:00] <kv> test
[02:00] <olskolirc> This would be the place I suppose graingert
[02:00] <zorg24> graingert, this is the official Ubuntu irc channel
[02:01] <graingert> agreed but what nick should be pinged
[02:01] <olskolirc> We never know graingert
[02:01] <zorg24> graingert, is their something you need help with?  Or what?
[02:01] <graingert> kv: sorry I didn't see that you'll need to reconfigure your client
[02:01] <olskolirc> it could be zorg24 never know lol
[02:02] <ace7> "/dev/sda1       248G  6.5G  230G   3% /
[02:02] <ace7> udev            915M  4.1k  915M   1% /dev
[02:02] <graingert> zorg24: "what"
[02:02] <ace7> tmpfs           369M  971k  368M   1% /run
[02:02] <ace7> none            5.3M     0  5.3M   0% /run/lock
[02:02] <ace7> none            922M   87k  922M   1% /run/shm
[02:02] <FloodBot1> ace7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:02] <ace7> /dev/sdc1       4.1G  735M  3.3G  19% /media/PENDRIVE
[02:02] <zorg24> lol no I don't work canonical if that's what you're suggesting
[02:02] <trism> graingert: maybe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website (#ubuntu-website)
[02:02] <olskolirc> !pastebin
[02:03] <alusion> is there a cheatsheet for desktop commands and whatnot?
[02:03] <olskolirc> www.linuxcommand.org alusion
[02:03] <zorg24> graingert: I was saying why are you asking for someone from canonical?
[02:03] <yuri__> Hello. Quick question: My Ubuntu computer is a triple core AMD, but it is starting to slow down. It now takes about 30 seconds to open Dolphin now. Any ideas?
[02:03] <graingert> zorg24: yes
[02:04] <olskolirc> clean your cpu fan yuri__ ?
[02:04] <graingert> yuri__: clean install
[02:04] <ace7> dev/sda1       248G  6.5G  230G   3% /
[02:04] <ace7> udev            915M  4.1k  915M   1% /dev
[02:04] <ace7> tmpfs           369M  971k  368M   1% /run
[02:04] <ace7> none            5.3M     0  5.3M   0% /run/lock
[02:04] <ace7> none            922M   87k  922M   1% /run/shm
[02:04] <FloodBot1> ace7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:04] <ace7> /dev/sdc1       4.1G  735M  3.3G  19% /media/PENDRIVE
[02:04] <zorg24> ok then if you tell us why we might be able to help
[02:04] <olskolirc> !pastebin | ace7
[02:04] <yuri__> My only problem with clean install is that I lose a ton of movies. Can't replace 'em either any more. Also, I just did a clean install a month ago.
[02:04] <yeats> !pastebin | ace7
[02:04] <zorg24> also alusion I use http://store.xkcd.com/xkcd/#LinuxCheatShirt
[02:05] <olskolirc> try bleachbit yuri__ its a powerful system cleaner
[02:05] <yuri__> Thank you, olskolirc. :)
[02:05] <ace7> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009020/
[02:06] <ace7> I can't see D and E partition
[02:06] <LordOfTime> ace7:  "D" and "E"?
[02:06] <ace7> does this mean all files on D and E are all deleted??
[02:07] <olskolirc> You have a usb pendrive and usp nic card and the rest is all ubuntu ace7 lucky you
[02:07] <yeats> ace7: linux doesn't use those letter designations like windows does
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> ace7, try sudo fdisk -lu and pastebin the text
[02:07] <graingert> zorg24: I can't say why
[02:07] <Blackshirt> Ace7, what you mean with d and e partition...linux would not recognize them, it was not linux names,but windows name
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | ace7
[02:07] <olskolirc> you betcha ace7
[02:08] <olskolirc> Ubuntu won't overwrite your other hard drive space unless you specify that it doesn't do that during the install
[02:08] <yeats> olskolirc: actually there's not a way to see that from what ace7 has posted so far...
[02:09] <zorg24> graingert, you might try http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/contact or http://www.ubuntu.com/contact-us
[02:09] <olskolirc> ace7, bring up partition manager and take a look around
[02:09] <IBMHPGOOGLE> Can someone please help me when I type sudo dpkg --configure -a it tell me that the file system have read only access how can I do to get both read and write access to the file system I have already root access
[02:09] <Blackshirt> You should remount it read and write
[02:10] <olskolirc> chmod and chown on that filesystem IBMHPGOOGLE and give it back to you
[02:10] <ace7> how to bring up partition manager?
[02:10] <Blackshirt> Fscking them may be help you
[02:11] <olskolirc> look in system settings ace7
[02:11] <primefalcon> ace7: boot from a livedisk and scan to fix errors from there
[02:11] <olskolirc> or utilities ace7
[02:11] <Blackshirt> It was look your system has a trouble with filesystem...and system could not mount partition normally
[02:11] <olskolirc> well primefalcon , it looks to me like he overwrote the whole drive and gave it ubuntu
[02:11] <primefalcon> ace7: never fsck a mounted partiton
[02:11] <yeats> ace7: did you pastebin what wilee-nilee asked you to?
[02:12] <primefalcon> overwrote..... that would rule out even testdisk
[02:12] <olskolirc> he could have different hard drives but he can't see that unless he looks at the partition.  ace7 try fdisk -l
[02:12] <kv> .
[02:12] <yeats> olskolirc: that's what wilee-nilee asked him to post... :-/
[02:13] <graingert> zorg24: thanks I sent an email to them
[02:13] <olskolirc> he posted
[02:13] <wa5qjh> Hello the channel!! is there anybody here that can direct me toan expert on wubi installations?  I've been to at least one wubi website without much luck.
[02:13] <zorg24> graingert, no problem
[02:13] <olskolirc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009020/ this is all he has on his hard drive, ubuntu and two usb plugin
[02:13] <ace7> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009030/
[02:13] <graingert> zorg24: let's hope they are awake
[02:13] <Blackshirt> Wa5gjh, i think maybe better install it on separated partition
[02:13] <yeats> olskolirc: that's not 'fdisk -l' that's 'df -h'
[02:14] <olskolirc> wa5qjh, dual booting?
[02:14] <yeats> ace7: it's 'fdisk -l' not 'fdisk -1'
[02:14] <olskolirc> yeats sudo fdisk -l and you can read the partition tables
[02:14] <wa5qjh> It would have been preferable at the time. in fact it was actually done but had problems with booting.
[02:15] <yeats> olskolirc: I know
[02:15] <olskolirc> df -H is different
[02:15] <yeats> olskolirc: yes, I know that
[02:15] <yeats> olskolirc: you were telling him he had lost all his data based on his previous paste, which was 'df -h' output
[02:15] <olskolirc> let me show you how to make a dualboot yeats hold on I have notes
[02:16] <K1rk> olskolirc: Did you have a chance to look at my txt file from earlier? it didn't work on Windows 7 client either.
[02:16] <sinistrad> I installed 12.04 64-bit on a fresh partition. Sound has been working since 9.04. Here is a paste of configs/logs: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5b73308f5bd30eb10871163137b1da094e5fa6cd
[02:16] <wa5qjh> I actually had better luck with that wubi installation than I have with a normal partitioned installation since. oddly enough.
[02:16] <yeats> olskolirc: I think you mean wa5qjh...
[02:16] <ace7> it ask my password, but when I type my pasword it didn't appear
[02:16] <sinistrad> My sound doesn't work on 12.04...sorry
[02:16] <wa5qjh> but now I'm left with a 20GB  so-called "root.disk" with a lot of stuff in it I can no longer get to.
[02:16] <ace7> I can't key in the password in terminal..
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> ace7, part of the system in the terminal the password does not show
[02:17] <chuuicv> hi, i can't get a fresh install of ubuntu on my computer
[02:17] <yeats> ace7: it doesn't show on the screen
[02:17] <K1rk> chuuicv: What seems to be the trouble?
[02:17] <ace7> yup
[02:17] <zorg24> ace7, just type it in and hit enter it won't display the password or *****
[02:17] <primefalcon> ace7: your password doesn't show as stars  even... security
[02:17] <chuuicv> I have to use 10.04. I've used Unetbootin, and it throws error 2 errors when I try to boot from usb
[02:17] <olskolirc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009032/ wa5qjh
[02:17] <olskolirc> I'm getting you guys mixed up
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> chuuicv, what is the error in a pastebin
[02:18] <ace7> it says "sorry, try again"
[02:18] <K1rk> olskolirc: I am the l2tp vpn guy.
[02:18] <olskolirc> that's the easiest dual boot you will ever make wa5qjh
[02:18] <olskolirc> yeah K1rk I couldn't find your solution
[02:18] <yeats> ace7: you must be typing the password incorrectly
[02:18] <chuuicv> I don't know. I'd have to try and reformat again.  Me either so far.
[02:19] <olskolirc> its out there
[02:19] <wa5qjh> Thanks olskolirc and ace7 I'm trying to get that to come up in my browser now. Not easy when max speed is about 20kBps!!
[02:19] <ace7> haha why thx me...
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> chuuicv, did you test the md5sum of the ISO, and did you reformat the usb that may need to be done.
[02:19] <ace7> I'm the one asking question also haha
[02:19] <olskolirc> and that partition editor is beautiful too wa5qjh hold onto it and the note
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum
[02:20] <chuuicv> wilee-nilee: Specifically, it asks what language, I choose english, "ERROR 2: Some crap. Do you want to cancel, continue, retry? If you continue it could screw things up. Retrying doesn't work duh. And if you cancel, well, I'll just close the entire installer.""
[02:20] <IBMHPGOOGLE> I need to type something more than chmod and  chown but i do not now how to
[02:20] <chuuicv> So i continue and it throws the same error for every single thing it tries to install
[02:20] <ace7> olskolirc, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009035/
[02:20] <L3top> xisor: pastebin your /etc/asound.conf and /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[02:20] <Blackshirt> Wa5qjh, wubi relies on windows filesystem...if your windows getting corrupted, (it's verry common happen to windows os), maybe you will lost your linux installed through wubi
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> chuuicv, did you test the md5sum of the ISO, and did you reformat the usb that may need to be done.
[02:20] <olskolirc> ace7, did you look at your hard drives through partition manager or fdisk -l ?
[02:21] <chuuicv> wilee-nilee: Would UNetbootin give me an invalid checksum?
[02:21] <yeats> ace7: those last two listed are windows partitions, so looks like you're probably okay
[02:21] <thomas> ops: there is a channel flooder in #ubuntu-br if any of you could take care of it
[02:21] <chuuicv> Where is the desktop folder on Ubuntu?
[02:21] <thomas> !ops: there is a channel flooder in #ubuntu-br if any of you could take care of it
[02:21] <chuuicv> Can't find it in file system
[02:21] <LordOfTime> chuuicv:  /home/[user]/Desktop
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> chuuicv, I'm not sure about checking a thumb check the link the bot gives.
[02:21] <chuuicv> ty
[02:21] <LordOfTime> where  [user] is your username
[02:22] <ace7> can't find partition manager in system setting and when I type fdisk -l in terminal nothing happen
[02:22] <wilee-nilee> chuuicv, I have feeling you are not sure what a check sum is not sure realy.,
[02:22] <yeats> ace7: what are you trying to do now?
[02:22] <olskolirc> you have to type sudo first ace7 then fdisk -l let me see if I can find your manager
[02:23] <olskolirc> I'm smart nuff to be on kubuntu :-P
[02:23] <ace7> I want to access my partition d and e
[02:23] <chuuicv> wilee-nilee: Lemme checksum it, although I'm 99% sure it's fine
[02:23] <IBMHPGOOGLE> I need to type something more than chmod and chown but I do not now how to
[02:23] <LordOfTime> IBMHPGOOGLE:  what're you trying to do?
[02:23] <o67pc> hey people
[02:23] <o67pc> can you help me
[02:23] <K1rk> !ask
[02:23] <yeats> ace7: open nautilus (the file manager)... you should see the other partitions in the side panel
[02:24] <vajrapani666> I realize you can install a specific version of something using apt-get install firefox=3.5.2 ...  How can you get a list of all versions that could be installed? Everytime i try anything I get E: Version '3.6.3' for 'firefox' was not found (with 3.6.3 being whatever i had after the =) ?
[02:24] <olskolirc> ace7, try typing sudo partitionmanager
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> chuuicv, something is up unetbootin is fairly reliable would you like another usb loader to try? Ubuntu has one itself if you are using a ubuntu OS to load the thumb.
[02:24] <K1rk> ace7 what are you trying to do? Mount other partitions on your drive?
[02:24] <o67pc> i solving an chancellenge, seisetepc.xpg.com/solve.mp3, i don't good in english what is the answer?
[02:24] <K1rk> I drifted into this chat a bit ago ace7 but I'd be happy to lend a hand if you'll fill me in.
[02:25] <olskolirc> he's trying to find where his other partitions or hard drives went after the ubuntu install K1rk
[02:25] <chuuicv> wilee-nilee: The usb-creator? I tried it too with different, yet still failing results.
[02:25] <K1rk> o67pc: This is a Ubuntu support channel.
[02:25] <olskolirc> ace7, are we looking for partitions or hard drives?
[02:25] <yeats> olskolirc: K1rk: and he has found them, but I'm not sure he understands that
[02:25] <o67pc> K1rk, sorry man, but i don't have help in other channels...
[02:25] <marduk> :S
[02:25] <olskolirc> !spanish
[02:25] <chuuicv> wilee-nilee: I already have Ubuntu 10.04 on here, I'm just trying to reformat with a fresh copy of it. What steps would you take exactly?
[02:26] <yeats> olskolirc: he pasted fdisk output above, which showed two windows partitions
[02:26] <wa5qjh> Blackshirt,  no windows system is ok. I tried to use EasyBCD2???  to enable the regular Ubuntu partition( the one I'm on now) I actually created before I tried wubi and basdically hosed up wubi so it will no longer boot the wubi disk.
[02:26] <chuuicv> wilee-nilee: Btw, checksum was fine
[02:26] <Blackshirt> !ksplice
[02:26] <K1rk> yeats, olskolirc, ace7, Uhm, have you looked on the Places menu?  There will be stuff in there usually like "250GB Volume" "500GB Volume".
[02:26] <xisor> wow live-usb sure boots fast from an SSD XD
[02:27] <chuuicv> wilee-nilee: brb, trying again
[02:27] <yeats> K1rk: yeah - that's what I just suggested to ace7
[02:27] <IBMHPGOOGLE> When I type sudo dpkg --configure -a it tell me that the file system have only read access how can I get both read and write access to the file system i already have root access
[02:27] <K1rk> yeats: k
[02:27] <K1rk> IBMHPGOOGLE: Uh oh.
[02:27] <K1rk> IBMHPGOOGLE: Can you do anything at all on the filesystem?  Try making a folder.
[02:27] <olskolirc> I don't remember ubuntu gui K1rk I'm on kubuntu
[02:27] <olskolirc> some things are the same
[02:28] <K1rk> olskolirc: yeah I'm with ya, I'm switching over to xfce on my new stuff. Thank you Unity.
[02:28] <Blackshirt> Ibmhpgoogle, boot with live cd, and fsck your disk,something trouble with your filesystem
[02:28] <manadys> donvito3: /join #autohotket
[02:29] <K1rk> IBMHPGOOGLE: Sometimes when bad things happen to your filesystem, it will remount itself read-only to prevent further damage.
[02:29] <manadys> bah
[02:29] <xisor> is the unity UI bad or something/
[02:29]  * manadys is awesome at this IRC thing
[02:29] <yeats> xisor: it's all a matter of opinion
[02:29] <K1rk> xisor: I'm not a fan.  I hesitate to use the word "Bad" when describing software. But it isn't for me.
[02:29] <IBMHPGOOGLE> I do not now how I am only a simple user not a text based
[02:29] <K1rk> xisor: It feels a bit too much like a tablet OS for my liking.
[02:29] <dj_segfault> xisor: That depends on who your ask.  I refuse to use it myself.
[02:29] <Blackshirt> Xisor, i think was not bad,just not familiar
[02:29] <olskolirc> irc rocks hard manadys
[02:29] <xisor> how hard is it to install kde and use it if i dont like it etiher? my 12.04 install is finishing up right now so im in firefox killing time
[02:29] <reisio> xisor: GNOME 3 was a fairly drastic change from version 2 is all
[02:30] <reisio> xisor: people were expecting more of the same
[02:30] <reisio> instead they get to have their favorite DE as they knew it discontinued
[02:30] <xisor> does kde play nicer with ati than unity? someone told me unity and ati = bad
[02:30] <olskolirc> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop xisor
[02:30] <olskolirc> on the command line xisor
[02:30] <reisio> xisor: should be the same
[02:30] <IBMHPGOOGLE> I am using my android phone it is really annoying
[02:30] <dj_segfault> xisor:  Just install kubuntu instead
[02:30] <yeats> !purekde | xisor
[02:30] <olskolirc> I suggest everyone install kubuntu, xfce or lxde and close this channel how bout that :-)
[02:31] <ace7> k1rk, yup I'm trying to mount my partition D and E, before this I use windows with 3 partition,C,D and E.. When I boot ubuntu on flash drive I still can mount D and E, after finish installing ubuntu, I can't see partition D and E anymore..btw in windows my hard disk is 250GB with three partition, C:40+GB, D:100GB and E:100GB
[02:31] <xisor> yeats: is there any advantage to doing that?
[02:31] <wa5qjh> olskolirc  You must like that kde! So do I and am in the process of trying to download the 12.04  iso now.
[02:31] <xisor> yeats: does having the gnome stuff installed too hurt anything?
[02:31] <yeats> xisor: only if you want a kde system
[02:31] <yeats> xisor: nah
[02:31] <K1rk> xisor: nah just takes up space
[02:31] <reisio> IBMHPGOOGLE: stop using it? :p
[02:31] <olskolirc> more than likely wa5qjh you will be disappointed with 12.04 ive never seen a more sad release
[02:31] <xisor> 250 gig hard drive here, highly doubt ill even use 10% of it
[02:32] <xisor> considering putting my 64 gig SSD in here instead and using the 250 externally
[02:32] <K1rk> IBMHPGOOGLE: On the filesystem having this problem type something like "mkdir test" - does that work or throw a Read Only error?
[02:32] <yeats> olskolirc: not helpful
[02:32] <olskolirc> I'm preping him for a headache YeahRight_
[02:32] <K1rk> olskolirc: I disagree. 11.04 was a much sadder release.
[02:32] <olskolirc> yeats oops
[02:32] <dj_segfault> olskolirc: What don't you like about 12.04?
[02:33] <yeats> olskolirc: try to keep your opinions out of it
[02:33] <K1rk> dj_segfault: He's bashing on Unity, lol
[02:33] <Blackshirt> Xisor, ssd has limit write..
[02:33] <chuldaf> wilee-nilee: back. Now it says "Non bootable disk blah blah. Insert bootable floppy usb"
[02:33] <IBMHPGOOGLE> Fsck does not fix it even with fsck -f -c   what can I do now
[02:33] <K1rk> IBMHPGOOGLE: Might just be a bad hard drive?
[02:33] <olskolirc> dj_segfault, I installed it 3 times with 3 different medias and the desktop would never load all the way.  cpu hog
[02:33] <olskolirc> I'm on natty i never had probs with natty
[02:34] <xisor> is it bad to use an SSD for linux?
[02:34] <Blackshirt> Ibmhpgoogle, are you sure fsck from livecd?
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> chuldaf, to be honest the blah blah is rather irritating I think someone else is going to a better helper here
[02:34] <K1rk> olskolirc: I do admit I am running Precise on my new server.  There isn't exactly a Places menu on unity.
[02:35] <xangua> !language | K1rk
[02:35] <IBMHPGOOGLE> Mkdir test does not work it is still only read access
[02:35] <olskolirc> no errict my first install was an upgrade from 11.10 on the command line
[02:35] <K1rk> -.-
[02:35] <chuldaf> I'm trying to put a clean install of Ubuntu 10.04 on my computer, but it keeps failing. Can anyone guide me through how they would do it with a usb drive?
[02:35] <ace7> I 'm extremly new to ubuntu..
[02:35] <olskolirc> should have matched the first time
[02:35] <K1rk> IT people don't use nice language.
[02:35] <chuldaf> I've done it before with a CD, but never with USB
[02:35] <Blackshirt> Xisor, there are some guide about ssd disk, look at suite filesystem, tweaking for some filesystem
[02:36] <erict> ah I read about some people having trouble doing upgrade, better to go from a usb
[02:36] <vajrapani666> I realize you can install a specific version of something using apt-get install firefox=3.5.2 ...  How can you get a list of all versions that could be installed? Everytime i try anything I get E: Version '3.6.3' for 'firefox' was not found (with 3.6.3 being whatever i had after the =) ?
[02:36] <LordOfTime> K1rk:  we have a policy in this channel about foul language, please follow it.
[02:36] <K1rk> deusr: Looking at your paste.
[02:36] <xangua> ace7: clic on the ubuntu icon or hit your Windows key to show the dash, all files, apps, etc. are there
[02:36] <dj_segfault> IBMHPGOOGLE: Maybe even though you booted off LiveCD it mounted your hard drive anyway?
[02:36] <reisio> ace7: mountable drives should show up on the left in the file manager I would think
[02:36] <reisio> ace7: but for those Windows ones you may well want to add them explicitly to /etc/fstab
[02:36] <xangua> ace7: you can keep que Windows/Super button pressed to show you how to use it
[02:37] <OccupyDemonoid> Hello, I just bought a 32GB flash drive. Is there a way to have Windows PE on it and install Ubuntu on it at the same time?
[02:37] <reisio> OccupyDemonoid: yup
[02:37] <deusr> K1rk, ??
[02:37] <IBMHPGOOGLE> What do you mean
[02:37] <chuldaf> CAN ANYONE GUIDE ME THROUGH PUTTING A FRESH 10.04 INSTALL ON THIS SHITTY LAPTOP WITH A USB STICK?
[02:37] <OccupyDemonoid> reisio, May I ask how please? :)
[02:37] <xangua> !caps | chuldaf
[02:37] <reisio> OccupyDemonoid: I doubt there are any special steps
[02:37] <xisor> does there exist ATI drivers prior to the latest version that i can install still?
[02:37] <sinistrad> I installed 12.04 64-bit on a fresh partition, and my sound stopped working. Sound has been working since 9.04. Here is a paste of configs/logs: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=5b73308f5bd30eb10871163137b1da094e5fa6cd
[02:37] <xisor> the newest driver phased support out for my card
[02:37] <xisor> so cant use it
[02:38] <K1rk> !language | chuldaf
[02:38] <erict> #xubuntu
[02:38] <chuldaf> can anyone guide me through putting a fresh 10.04 install on this gosh golly laptop with a usb stick?
[02:38] <olskolirc> why are we talking about occupy reisio?  I miss Sabu :-(
[02:38] <reisio> OccupyDemonoid: if GRUB doesn't detect it as an OS, you'd just add a listing manually in grub.cfg
[02:38] <Blackshirt> Ibmhpgoogle, remount it read write, but do it with your risk
[02:38] <OccupyDemonoid> reisio, but with the windows pe, there isn't really an installation process.
[02:38] <yobsoggoth> Hello - I have a video problem.  I have a radeon 4200 series video card, and am using the proprietary driver to increase video performance.  My system, however, doesnt take that into consideration and one of the updates I applied today has caused my system to not load except into a command shell.  I am currently looking over /var/log/apt/history.log and can probably find the previous version of whichever the offending update(s) in
[02:38] <reisio> olskolirc: huh?
[02:38] <bazhang> chuldaf, get unetbootin
[02:38] <olskolirc> occupy demonoid
[02:38] <xisor> chuldaf do you want to use the usb stick only to install to the laptop hard drive?
[02:38] <OccupyDemonoid> reisio, would that be hard to do?
[02:38] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: In a situation like that you likely have a driver conflict.
[02:38] <bazhang> olskolirc, lets stay on topic
[02:38] <yobsoggoth> This is not the first time this has happened, and I understand the complication of using a proprietary driver
[02:39] <chuldaf> xisor: yes
[02:39] <olskolirc> k
[02:39] <reisio> OccupyDemonoid: nope
[02:39] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Typically that solution involves blacklisting drivers you're not wanting to use. I don't have any ATI hardware in production...
[02:39] <reisio> OccupyDemonoid: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22windows%20pe%22%20%22grub%22
[02:39] <chuldaf> bazhang: I tried unetbootin and it failed with "error 2" errors on every step of the install
[02:39] <xisor> chuldaf: someone just helped me with a usb install, i forgot the command to give the bot
[02:39] <ace7> reisio, the mountable drive that I want is no longer there..., before installing ubunto, I boot on pendrive and I still can see and mount my partition D and E on sidebar
[02:39] <OccupyDemonoid> reisio, alright thank you.
[02:39] <OccupyDemonoid> olskolirc, yes?
[02:39] <olskolirc> ohhhh OccupyDemonoid ok
[02:39] <yobsoggoth> i see
[02:39] <bazhang> chuldaf, then you need to md5 the iso
[02:39] <xisor> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[02:40] <chuldaf> bazhang: I did
[02:40] <olskolirc> nothing OccupyDemonoid I thought he was talking about some anon stuff I missed but I can't speak on it
[02:40] <xisor> has step by step instructions
[02:40] <chuldaf> It's fin
[02:40] <yobsoggoth> So is it possible to get my system to load without having to reinstall 12.04 again?
[02:40] <chuldaf> *fine
[02:40] <xisor> they gave them to me and it works fine
[02:40] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Try lsmod | grep ati, let me know what the output of that is.
[02:40] <xisor> instructions for windows, mac, and ubuntu users on how to set it up
[02:40] <alFReD-NSH> I just made a clean install. Anyone know why I'm having apache running?
[02:40] <xisor> was super easy!
[02:40] <reisio> ace7: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l, and sudo blkid
[02:40] <reisio> alFReD-NSH: 'cause you used the server edition?
[02:40] <chuldaf> Does anyone know of the instructions xisor is talkin about for usb installing a fresh copy of ubuntu?
[02:40] <Brustofski-Fan> Can i un do the update of a ppa repo?
[02:40] <yobsoggoth> pata_apiixp   13204  0
[02:40] <xisor> chuldaf: i just linked you them
[02:40] <xisor> chuldaf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[02:41] <yobsoggoth> er atiixp
[02:41] <deusr> someone help!!! - http://pastebin.com/4SJu6Aih
[02:41] <deusr> someone help!!! - http://pastebin.com/4SJu6Aih
[02:41] <deusr> someone help!!! - http://pastebin.com/4SJu6Aih
[02:41] <chuldaf> xisor: ty :)
[02:41] <FloodBot1> deusr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:41] <K1rk> Bahaha
[02:41] <xisor> chuldaf: they have full instructions there, works from 10.04 or newer
[02:41] <xisor> chuldaf: so just follow those :D
[02:41] <bazhang> Brustofski-Fan, use ppa-purge
[02:41] <alFReD-NSH>
[02:41] <alFReD-NSH> reisio: No I'm having desktop. Even for server you have to do something like `tasksell lamp`
[02:41] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | Brustofski-Fan
[02:41] <xisor> chuldaf: i just did them for 12.04 and it worked perfectly, im about to reboot into it and ill be back for help with my video drivers! brb
[02:41] <yobsoggoth> Sometimes I do not feel smart enough to be using linux.
[02:41] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Can you give me the output of lsmod | grep ati?
[02:42] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Be happy to help ya out.
[02:42] <Blackshirt> Alfred-nsh, just install apache2
[02:42] <bazhang> chuldaf, then you will need to try to 'burn ' it again
[02:42] <chuldaf> xisor: ty
[02:42] <ace7> reisio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1009049/
[02:42] <chuldaf> bazhang: what do you mean burn it? I downloaded the iso, I think usb-creator will prep the usb stick right?
[02:42] <jgalt> trying to get ndis wrapper installed and my wifi card working on 12.04 seems ndiswrapper is not found when I try 'modprobe ndiswrapper'
[02:42] <yobsoggoth> Kirk: pata_atiixp  13204  0
[02:42] <alFReD-NSH> Blackshirt: well I already am having it. Just asking why is it there in default
[02:43] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: That's the only line? Hmm, maybe it's not a driver conflict, it looks like you only have one driver loaded.
[02:43] <bazhang> chuldaf, which is why I put 'burn' in quotes. try the unetbootin again
[02:43] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Typically in a driver conflict situation you'll have 2-4 lines of output.
[02:43] <yobsoggoth> yeah, I think it is an update from earlier today.  I see there are some xserver-xord-core:amd64 and related updates that might have dorked my video
[02:43] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Did you do any kernel updates?
[02:44] <yobsoggoth> checking
[02:44] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: When I do kernel updates I have to recompile my nvidia driver.
[02:44] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: If you did kernel updates, booting into the old kernel will "fix" it.  Or reinstall the proprietary driver.
[02:44] <Brustofski-Fan> bazhang, and that will remove those packages and put back the ubuntu packages?
[02:44] <wa5qjh> Ahhh, I'm more3 or less back but for how long I dont know.
[02:44] <reisio> ace7: how many hard disks do you have?
[02:45] <jgalt> how can I get ndis wrapper running in the kernel?
[02:45] <yobsoggoth> kirk> would linux-image-3.2.0-24-generic:amd64 be a kernel update?
[02:45] <chuldaf> bazhang: usb-creator looks promising this time. lemme give it a shot. prolly brb
[02:45] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Yeah probably.
[02:45] <yobsoggoth> great
[02:45] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Do you still have whatever binary file you ran to install the ATI driver? Running that again should compile the kernel modules for the new kernel.
[02:45] <wa5qjh> I am actually in the jungles of the Philippines on an island called Samar  and a town called Tarangnan, Using  a USB broadband modem from Smart.com.ph
[02:46] <ace7> only 1, 250GB.. on windows I hve 3 partition, C,D and E.. right now I want to access D and E
[02:46] <xisor> i am back
[02:46] <ace7> there are lots of files in there
[02:46] <yobsoggoth> Yes I still have it
[02:46] <xisor> oh hey it detected my amd drivers automatically and said "do you want to install restricted drivers?" thats really awesome
[02:46] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Try running it like you're doing a fresh install.  9/10 odds that'll fix it.
[02:46] <xisor> i thought it was gonna be hard like it used to be way back when :O
[02:46] <K1rk> xisor: Yeah Ubuntu's driver support has far surpassed even Microsoft's. :P
[02:47] <yobsoggoth> kirk> ok trying it now, will see if it works
[02:47] <xisor> got one very important question tho..... why doesnt my right speaker work on my laptop built in speaker?
[02:47] <xisor> left works fine... right doesnt
[02:47] <xisor> any way to fix?
[02:47] <K1rk> xisor: This is a stupid question but: Have you checked the balance in the audio mixer? lol
[02:47] <xisor> K1rk: yes lol
[02:48] <K1rk> I can't say I've ever heard that one before.
[02:48] <xisor> K1rk: i was using audio mixer to test them, right makes no sound left is fine, balance is set properly
[02:48] <wa5qjh> How many of you will be here 24 hours from now? Sunday is always bad here, and I have a shopping list of odd problems to discuss.??
[02:48] <K1rk> xisor: What's your sound card?
[02:49] <xisor> K1rk:  its a realtek HD, specific model not sure
[02:49] <K1rk> xisor: lspci | grep Audio
[02:49] <xisor> K1rk: i do that in a terminal right?
[02:49] <K1rk> xisor: Yeah
[02:49] <olskolirc> I'm about to load a whole lotta xchat plugin scripts
[02:49] <xisor> how do i get one up with this new ui?
[02:49] <trism> jgalt: install ndiswrapper-dkms, the ndiswrapper kernel module is not built by default in the kernel in 12.04
[02:49] <xisor> never seen anythin like this before lol
[02:49] <K1rk> xisor this is Unity? Go to the launcher and start typing "Terminal" (upper left corner is launcher)
[02:50] <xisor> sweet
[02:50] <reisio> alt+f2, same as ever
[02:50] <reisio> or ctrl+alt+t, same as ever
[02:50] <xisor> do i need to use pastebin to paste 2 lines?
[02:50] <K1rk> reisio: Oh cool, never knew ctrl+alt+t
[02:50] <reisio> :p
[02:50] <K1rk> xisor: Nah I wouldn't worry about it.
[02:50] <xisor> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) 01:05.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS880 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4200 Series]
[02:50] <olskolirc> put it all on one line xisor
[02:51] <reisio> >3 is tradition
[02:51] <xisor> HDMI is one, Analog is the other
[02:51] <tshauck> hi, I'm interested in playing around with cloudera's hadoop VM for KVM… any thoughts on what I might need to install it? link: https://ccp.cloudera.com/display/SUPPORT/Cloudera's+Hadoop+Demo+VM
[02:51] <xisor> azalia being the analog, built in + audio jacks
[02:52] <yuri__> olskolirc, thanks for the idea about bleachbit. Trying it right now. It appears to be similar to ccleaner for Win. Running free space wipe and then running the rest of the scanners. Hopefully it will start working better later tonight. :)
[02:52] <K1rk> xisor: Hmm, doing a little bit of Googling but I don't see much so far.
[02:53] <xisor> K1rk: oh... so no way to fix?
[02:53] <yobsoggoth> kirk> reinstalled and rebooted - will now need to re-fix my dual monitors, but it came up all the way into my xwindows this time
[02:53] <K1rk> xisor: Well with the more detailed info about the hardware which you provided, myself and others in the channel are more able to help.
[02:53] <K1rk> So far I don't see much...
[02:53] <xisor> K1rk: i need to restart for amd driver activation, i will be right back
[02:53]  * yobsoggoth bows before K1rk
[02:53] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: lol, no problem dude.
[02:54] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Been there a few too many times with my nVidia stuff.
[02:54] <alusion> how do I start compiz?
[02:54] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: I got lazy and kept using Grub to boot into old kernels for like weeks at a time, because I couldn't find 2 minutes to rerun the binary. haha.
[02:55] <foxmulder881> K1rk, i'm also guily of that.
[02:55] <K1rk> foxmulder881: rofl
[02:55] <sinistrad> If anyone is interested, this worked for me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/933209
[02:55] <yobsoggoth> k1rk> lol Yes, last time I just backed up and upgraded to 12.04 as my "fix"
[02:56] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: Ahh well now you know what to do.
[02:56] <K1rk> You know, I'm really starting to like irssi.
[02:56] <yobsoggoth> k1rk> yes, uninstall the update manager :)
[02:57] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: lmao nah. Just don't blindly do updates.
[02:57] <AlbireoX`Laptop> K1rk: Try Konversation :)
[02:57] <K1rk> AlbireoX`Laptop: I used to use Konversation a lot but it wasn't very responsive over NX.
[02:57] <yobsoggoth> nods, thanks again dude
[02:57] <K1rk> yobsoggoth: np
[02:57] <AlbireoX`Laptop> Oh
[02:57] <xisor> K1rk: i am back
[02:57] <xisor> K1rk: which brings me to another question, how to tell if my amd driver is working?
[02:57] <K1rk> AlbireoX`Laptop: I actually really like it, it's just that it wasn't performing that well.
[02:58] <AlbireoX`Laptop> Works well for me :/
[02:58] <K1rk> xisor: Best way to see drivers loaded is "lsmod".  If you do "lsmod | grep audio" you should have a pretty good idea what's loaded.
[02:58] <foxmulder881> i never liked irssi.
[02:58] <xisor> no i meant my video driver :P
[02:58] <K1rk> AlbireoX`Laptop: I'm sure it works fine on normal desktops, but I usually do IRC on my remote server with NX remote desktop.
[02:58] <AlbireoX`Laptop> I see
[02:58] <K1rk> I just hop on irssi when I'm lazy but recently I've started getting hooked.
[02:59] <AlbireoX`Laptop> oh, remote desktop, ok.
[02:59]  * AlbireoX`Laptop didn't know what NX was
[02:59] <K1rk> AlbireoX`Laptop: Yeah NX is pretty much like real-time, but there are some apps it just doesn't like. Skype is always a little laggy too. I don't really know why.
[02:59] <AlbireoX`Laptop> Weird
[02:59] <K1rk> I think it may have to do with additional libraries the app uses or something.
[02:59] <K1rk> Konversation needs to install a lot of libraries when I install it on Gnome or XFCE
[03:00] <AlbireoX`Laptop> yeah
[03:00] <xisor> 1900fps in glxgears = my video acceleration is working?
[03:00] <K1rk> AlbireoX`Laptop: Look at the PPA for freenx-team.  Freenx is a great remote desktop server for Linux.  NX uses very little bandwidth and performs nearly realtime.
[03:00] <K1rk> AlbireoX`Laptop: Which is sweet becuase I have a Linux server in a datacenter, so this is the gateway to my 100Mbit computer.
[03:01] <xisor> ok so back to the issue at hand.... any way to fix my right speaker?
[03:01] <K1rk> Oh, right, the speaker.
[03:01] <K1rk> That's really strange dude. Usually that isn't software....
[03:01] <xisor> works in windows, beyond that i have no idea
[03:01] <K1rk> xisor: For kicks try plugging in headphones. I'm curious if the right channel is out on those too.
[03:01] <xisor> im pretty much a noob at linux
[03:02] <xisor> dont have any headphones K1rk
[03:02] <K1rk> Or speakers....
[03:02] <xisor> dont have
[03:02] <K1rk> Hmph.
[03:03] <K1rk> xisor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1694113  <- Maybe you're not crazy
[03:04] <harushimo> question for the group
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> xisor: probably, install tuxracer and test :)
[03:04] <K1rk> !ask | harushimo
[03:04] <harushimo> I have a unallocated 1tb hard disk. I want to turn into virtual machine
[03:05] <K1rk> harushimo: "Turn into a virtual machine"? please elaborate...
[03:05] <xisor> K1rk: so its not just me
[03:05] <K1rk> xisor: Evidently not. You might try the stuff suggested in the last reply on that thread. Looks...promising.
[03:05] <harushimo> what is the best way to allocate the 1tb hard disk? what is a good program to setup the partition?
[03:05] <K1rk> harushimo: Personally I like gparted. (apt-get install gparted)
[03:05] <xisor> ActionParsnip: tuxracer isnt found when i try sudo apt-get install
[03:05] <harushimo> I have gparted
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: gparted, but virtual machines by default will be stored in your home folder/
[03:06] <K1rk> harushimo: Gparted is pretty straightforward. You'll want to make an ext4 or ext3 partition.
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> !find tuxracer
[03:06] <sgalvez> gparted can do the work
[03:06] <harushimo> alright I will do that
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> xisor: extremetuxracer
[03:06] <harushimo> what directory should I mount that too?
[03:06] <reisio> xisor: apt-cache search race
[03:06] <xisor> ActionParsnip: ty
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: virtualbox can read ISOs as they stand, no need tomount them
[03:06] <reisio> harushimo: /mnt/zomg1000jiggabits
[03:06] <xisor> K1rk:  is it safe to go messing with things like that? im pretty new
[03:07] <K1rk> xisor: Define "safe".  That is why I'm setting up a virtual machine
[03:08] <K1rk> xisor: nano, vi, emacs - whatever floats your boat. I'm a nano guy.
[03:08] <K1rk> sudo nano /path/to/file.conf
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: yes
[03:08] <marloshouse> when I sudo sh into a root session (or any other user session for that matter) my "up-arrow" (recall last command) stops working.  how do I fix that?
[03:08] <K1rk> xisor: In nano, CTRL+W will let you do a search in the file. So CTRL+W and then type "options snd-hda" and hit enter and it'll take you right to that line.
[03:09] <harushimo> ok
[03:09] <K1rk> xisor: Then CTRL+X to exit, Y to save the file. Enter.
[03:09] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: you could make a patition and store the files there but symlink them back to your home folder
[03:09] <harushimo> that is a good idea
[03:09] <harushimo> let me first partition the drive
[03:09] <harushimo> gparted is loading up right now
[03:10] <xisor> K1rk:  that line doesnt even exist in my conf file
[03:10] <K1rk> xisor: Interesting. I thought your lspci said it was Intel HD Audio.
[03:11] <K1rk> xisor: I'm a bit new to this too. Usually my ALSA stuff has "just worked".
[03:11] <K1rk> xisor: So I'm a little fuzzy on the specifics, I'm looking at my alsa-base.conf now
[03:11] <guest65536> ActionParsnip thanks for your help a few hours ago, I got my refresh rate issue sorted out by editing the xorg.conf file. Running at 60hz now.
[03:12] <K1rk> xisor: I do not have that line in my conf either and I'm pretty sure I have Intel audio too.
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> guest65536: nice :)
[03:13] <xisor> ActionParsnip: if i get 51 - 57fps in tuxracer does that mean my acceleration is working?
[03:13] <xisor> K1rk: so what do i do?
[03:13] <K1rk> xisor: I'm slightly discouraged to see so many threads about similar problems on the Ubuntu Forums with no responses.... still looking, haven't given up on you yet.
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> xisor: yes thats great :D
[03:14] <xisor> ActionParsnip: woot! i thought it was gonna be hard, apparently it used to be really hard to get ati cards working lol
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> guest65536: sounds like you monitor isn't reporting correctly like ood screens do. I suggest you backup the xorg.conf file you have so you can simply copy it back on a new install in the future and be where you are now
[03:15] <ActionParsnip> xisor: some can, I always buy nvidia
[03:15] <K1rk> xisor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10775892&postcount=5
[03:15] <K1rk> xisor: Try that. Maybe running the latest kernel modules will help.
[03:16] <K1rk> xisor: If you can't run "apt-add-repository" because it does not exist, run (apt-get install python-software-properties) to install apt-add-repository.
[03:16] <xisor> K1rk:  should i do these 151 updates ubuntu says it has for me first?
[03:16] <xisor> K1rk: or no?>
[03:16] <guest65536> ActionParsnip thanks. I made a backup before and after the change. Adding 'Option "DynamicTwinView" "false"' fixed it.
[03:16] <K1rk> xisor: Dunno if that will matter or not.
[03:17] <K1rk> xisor: I mean it won't hurt to do it or not to do it, just maybe one of them is the fix you need. :P
[03:17] <K1rk> xisor: Sorry to just poke in the dark like this but this is how weird problems like this have to be solved. I work in IT professionally and this is how we have to solve most of our problems, it's just the user doesn't typically see it. :P
[03:18] <xisor> K1rk: whats the command line for updating all the packages? the icon that was there befor emy reboot about having updates isnt there anymorer
[03:18] <xisor> K1rk: anymore*
[03:18] <vajrapani666> I realize you can install a specific version of something using apt-get install firefox=3.5.2 ...  How can you get a list of all versions that could be installed? Everytime i try anything I get E: Version '3.6.3' for 'firefox' was not found (with 3.6.3 being whatever i had after the =) ?
[03:18] <K1rk> xisor: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[03:19] <K1rk> That'll install ALL updates.
[03:19] <xisor> K1rk: and none of that will break my pc?
[03:19] <K1rk> xisor: Nah
[03:19] <harushimo> i got gparted loaded
[03:19] <reisio> harushimo: don't brag
[03:19] <K1rk> harushimo: It took that long to open Gparted?
[03:19] <K1rk> You may have...erm, other issues.
[03:19] <reisio> K1rk: load
[03:19] <harushimo> it was running for a while
[03:20] <reisio> should've been tired and easy to catch, then
[03:20] <harushimo> for some odd gparted, its take awhile
[03:20] <harushimo> it was scanning the devices
[03:20] <reisio> if you have a lot of disks they might've had to spin up
[03:20] <reisio> right
[03:20] <harushimo> I have two hard drives
[03:20] <K1rk> That explains it. Should've unplugged your 26 flash drives first harushimo .
[03:20] <xisor> K1rk: 3 mins to fetch the updates, after that ill try that link you gave me and see if it fixes it ok?
[03:20] <harushimo> haha
[03:20] <harushimo> nice
[03:20] <harushimo> it wasn't
[03:20] <harushimo> I've noticed that with gparted
[03:20] <manadys> K1rk: and that's what's awesome about Linux
[03:21] <K1rk> xisor: The command I sent you has 3 different download processes. It may be a bit longer than 3 mins. That may just be this phase.
[03:21] <manadys> no limit to the number of independent drives
[03:21] <harushimo> it can take up 10 mins sometime for gparted to load
[03:21] <harushimo> I still don't understand why
[03:21] <K1rk> manadys: No one thing is awesome about Linux. Linux is just awesome all around.
[03:21] <manadys> windows would die with about 24 partitions
[03:21] <xisor> K1rk: its on phase 2 already, the first one took like 8 seconds :P
[03:21] <manadys> K1rk: touche
[03:21] <K1rk> xisor: The 1st one just refreshes your package lists.
[03:21] <K1rk> xisor: 2nd downloads updates
[03:21] <K1rk> xisor: 3rd hits out any kernel upgrades needed.
[03:21] <xisor> K1rk: the only non awesome thing about linux is nobody makes games for linux :( have to have windows pretty much
[03:22] <K1rk> xisor: I sort of still do the same. Halo runs in WINE but not very well.
[03:22] <harushimo> Is it better to do two partitions or one for virtual machine
[03:22] <K1rk> xisor: Oddly enough Halo dedicated servers run great in WINE. I have a Linux datacenter hosted server that runs Halo CE dedicated servers smashingly.
[03:22] <harushimo> I was going to use the whole hard drive
[03:22] <xisor> K1rk: try running a game made this year in wine, it probably wont and definately wont run well
[03:22] <harushimo> as a virtual machine
[03:23] <K1rk> harushimo: Just do 1 partition, no benefit to 2. lol
[03:23] <xisor> K1rk:  thats ok tho, my windows machine is a gaming pc, and way too much hardware power for linux, have linux on this laptop :D
[03:23] <harushimo> alright
[03:23] <harushimo> use ext 4 right
[03:23] <K1rk> harushimo: When you do your VM you can partition the VM however you want still.
[03:23] <K1rk> yeah ext4 is good
[03:23] <harushimo> ok
[03:23] <manadys> xisor: isn't that an oxymoron?
[03:23] <xisor> manadys: what?
[03:23] <manadys> too much hardware power for linux...
[03:23] <harushimo> there is label option in gparted
[03:23] <K1rk> xisor: I did the same for a long time. But my desktop is now 4 years old and I've made my gaming desktop Linux now. My laptop is dual boot Windows 7 and Ubuntu, and since it has 2GB nVidia graphics I can play recent games on that.
[03:23] <harushimo> just fill that with a random name?
[03:24] <Harris> can i download and run xchat on a cd
[03:24] <K1rk> harushimo: Or do the more sensible, and leave it blank. :P
[03:24] <manadys> tell that to the movie studios and space agencies using linux...
[03:24] <xisor> manadys: lol, unless im compiling something, i dont need a 6 core sandy bridge with 64 gigs of ram on linux :P and im not a programmer XD
[03:24] <K1rk> Harris: Do you mean a Live CD?
[03:24] <harushimo> i was going to do
[03:24] <harushimo> hehe
[03:24] <Harris> K1rk, no a normal cd
[03:24] <K1rk> Harris: I don't quite follow what you want to do. You're looking for like a portable apps version of xchat?
[03:25] <Harris> K1rk,  my work does not let me install things
[03:25] <K1rk> Harris: Your work is using Ubuntu? I'm impressed.
[03:25] <harushimo> its done
[03:25] <harushimo> the partition is now created
[03:25] <Harris> no windows xp K1rk
[03:25] <K1rk> Harris: Oh then what are you doing here in #ubuntu? lol
[03:26] <Harris> isnt it available for windows
[03:26] <K1rk> Harris: www.silverex.org
[03:26] <Harris> K1rk,  how do i put it on a disk to run
[03:26] <xisor> K1rk: does netflix work in linux? it requires silverlight to work in windows
[03:26] <reisio> xisor: not so far
[03:26] <K1rk> xisor: I don't think so. Although there is a Silverlight "replacement" called Moonlight that will work for web apps.
[03:26] <xisor> reisio: oh...
[03:26] <reisio> they claim to be working on a Linux client
[03:26] <reisio> but they've done that before, and reneged
[03:26] <xisor> how am i supposed to watch my netflix then?
[03:26] <manadys> ok, non-technical piece of advice...
[03:26] <reisio> xisor: hulu plus
[03:27] <manadys> when dealing with stinging insects...
[03:27] <xisor> reisio: hulu isnt netflix, nor does it have the same content :P
[03:27] <Harris> ActionParsnip,  do you have compiz
[03:27] <manadys> make sure you *kill* them with the first swat...
[03:27] <reisio> xisor: the reverse is also true, and? =P
[03:27] <reisio> manadys: why swat at all
[03:27] <K1rk> Harris: Depending on how your work is restricting you, you might not be able to run Xchat off a CD. (I am IT.)
[03:27] <xisor> and i want to be able to watch my netflix on my laptop stll
[03:27] <harushimo> hulu works great on linux
[03:27] <K1rk> Harris: at my work we restrict the EXEs you can run on your computer.
[03:27] <reisio> xisor: you'll want to keep Windows for that
[03:27] <Harris> ok
[03:27] <harushimo> I haven't try hulu plus
[03:27] <manadys> reisio: because the vacuum was inside...
[03:27] <xisor> dont have windows on here anymore reisio
[03:27] <Harris> K1rk,  do you have compiz
[03:27] <K1rk> Harris: However renaming xchat.exe to something like "winword.exe" would probably enable you to run it despite our restrictions. Bahahaha
[03:28] <reisio> manadys: why vacuum
[03:28] <reisio> xisor: no netflix for you, then
[03:28] <K1rk> Harris: www.portableapps.com - it looks like they might be working on an xchat, I see a download link there for Xchat Portable 2.8.6
[03:28] <manadys> to get rid of the bug...
[03:28] <xisor> reisio: when did they say a linux client would be out?
[03:28] <K1rk> Harris: www.portableapps.com is a site you might find useful in general for bypassing your IT's installation restrictions.
[03:28] <Harris> ok
[03:28] <reisio> xisor: "soon" :p
[03:28] <xisor> reisio: so mac users cant watch netflix either? only windows?
[03:28] <Harris> K1rk,  do you have compiz
[03:28] <reisio> xisor: Mac OS has silverlight, IIRC
[03:29] <xisor> reisio: oh
[03:29] <K1rk> Harris: http://portableapps.com/node/15971
[03:29] <reisio> xisor: got a mobile phone?
[03:29] <K1rk> Harris, I can't use Compiz on my desktop PC because it's incompatible with Xinerama. But I do have Compiz on my laptop.
[03:29] <xisor> reisio: yes, but i dont want to watch netflix on a 5 inch screen
[03:29] <Harris> K1rk,  on compiz all of the boxes next to the setting is grey and uncheckable
[03:30] <K1rk> Harris: Whaaa? Next to what setting? I'm confused I thought you were on Windows, lol
[03:30] <xisor> reisio: ill just use my gaming pc i guess
[03:30] <Harris> not anymore
[03:30] <xisor> K1rk: ok updates are all done, firefox says it wants to be reloaded brb
[03:30] <Harris> on my personal laptop i have compiz
[03:30] <harushimo> i'm just curious does gparted work on other platforms?
[03:30] <K1rk> xisor: karakedi
[03:30] <K1rk> xisor: k **
[03:30] <harushimo> or is it mainly an linux program?
[03:30] <Harris> in compiz the settings are grey and unclickable
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> harushimo: shuold do
[03:30] <harushimo> I have mac and windows machine
[03:31] <harushimo> its more for my windows machine
[03:31] <EliahKagan> GParted only runs on Linux, but you can use GParted on a live CD to operate on partitions for non-Linux OSes
[03:31] <K1rk> Harris: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[03:31] <K1rk> Sorry I meant harushimo: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[03:31] <xisor> K1rk: ok back
[03:31] <xisor> K1rk: doing that link stuff now, its safe to do right?
[03:31] <K1rk> harushimo: You can grab a Live CD there and run Gparted on any computer to modify partitions.
[03:31] <K1rk> xisor: Link stuff...apt-add-repository and the like? Yeah
[03:31] <EliahKagan> there's even an official GParted liveCD (not affiliated with the Ubuntu project) that has the latest version and is smaller than an Ubuntu desktop CD (because it doesn't give a fully functional desktop system or let you install an OS)
[03:32] <harushimo> I see that now
[03:32] <xisor> K1rk: what do i need to do to get repository again?
[03:32] <Harris> K1rk,  in compiz how do you add the burn effect
[03:32] <K1rk> xisor: apt-get install python-software-properties
[03:32] <xisor> already installed
[03:32] <K1rk> Harris: Is it not installed or what?
[03:32] <reisio> xisor: connect it to the big screen :p
[03:33] <K1rk> xisor: Then apt-add-repository should work as expected from the link.
[03:33] <Harris> K1rk,  i need to know how to install and enable the burn effect
[03:33] <K1rk> Harris: I don't know which Compiz package that's in. but if you do (apt-get install compiz-*) I think that should install all effects.
[03:33] <flank> How to stop compiz?
[03:33] <K1rk> flank: Flank it.
[03:34] <flank> ???
[03:34] <K1rk> flank: metacity --replace
[03:35] <K1rk> flank: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion#Troubleshooting
[03:35] <xisor> it cant find any packages by that name K1rk
[03:35] <xisor> after i added the repository, on the next step
[03:35] <flank> and then how to start it?
[03:35] <carranca> join petrolina
[03:35] <K1rk> xisor: Pastebin the output of (apt-cache search linux-alsa-driver)
[03:35] <xisor> how do i do that?
[03:36] <K1rk> xisor: while you're at it throw in the output of uname -r
[03:36] <xisor> 3.2.0-24.generic-pae is uname-r
[03:36] <K1rk> xisor: run the command in terminal, highlight it, right click, copy. Go to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and pastebin it
[03:37] <flank> ???
[03:37] <K1rk> flank: compiz --replace
[03:37] <K1rk> ?
[03:37] <K1rk> flank: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion#Run_Compiz
[03:37] <xisor> there are no results for linux-alsa-driver
[03:37] <xisor> it just ends, nothing is listed at all
[03:38] <K1rk> xisor: wtf really?
[03:38] <xisor> ya
[03:38] <K1rk> xisor: Apparently that repository doesn't work as advertised, lmao
[03:38] <harushimo> okay I setup my partition. how I created a symbol link to my directory with my new partition or mount it
[03:38] <harushimo> ?
[03:38] <K1rk> xisor: Actually, are you on Precise (12.04)? It looks like you are.
[03:38] <xisor> yes i am
[03:38] <K1rk> xisor: Maybe the ubunt-audio-dev repository doesn't have anything for Precise yet.
[03:38] <K1rk> *ubuntu
[03:39] <xisor> so then i cant fix it?
[03:39] <K1rk> xisor: Not that way.
[03:39] <K1rk> xisor: Don't give up so easily. :P
[03:40] <K1rk> xisor: Is this an Acer laptop by chance?
[03:40] <xisor> K1rk: yes it is how did you know?
[03:40] <olskolirc> Put an ampersand on it & K1rk or compiz to get your terminal back
[03:40] <K1rk> xisor: Because all these results are Acer problems.
[03:40] <xisor> K1rk: any way to fix?
[03:40] <Harris> K1rk,  how do i add burn to compiz
[03:41] <K1rk> Harris: ccsm - look in there
[03:41] <Harris> what is ccsm
[03:41] <K1rk> Harris: compiz settings manager, run that in terminal
[03:41] <Harris> K1rk,  how do i add burn to the list
[03:41] <K1rk> xisor: It looks like, in a roundabout way, this IS an Acer hardware problem. I don't know how it works on Windows tbh, given what I'm reading here
[03:41] <Harris> what do i type in the terminal
[03:42] <K1rk> Harris: ccsm
[03:42] <xisor> K1rk: what are you reading?
[03:42] <xisor> K1rk: i get both speakers in windows just fine
[03:42] <_jon180_> how do i get unity 3d to work in 12.04 with my nvidia graphics card?
[03:42] <xisor> K1rk: it uses realteks drivers in windows, its realtek HD audio
[03:42] <Harris> K1rk,  burn is not listed
[03:43] <hk19> Drivers are available
[03:44] <vajrapani666> I realize you can install a specific version of something using apt-get install firefox=3.5.2 ...  How can you get a list of all versions that could be installed? Everytime i try anything I get E: Version '3.6.3' for 'firefox' was not found (with 3.6.3 being whatever i had after the =) ?
[03:44] <vajrapani666> No matter what i search, this silly command "apt-show-versions" keeps coming up, but it only shows local versions
[03:44] <xisor> K1rk: do you know if hdmi audio works correctly? and also if i can switch to external screen only and shut off the internal screen?
[03:45] <K1rk> xisor: Dunno about hdmi audio. Your screen question is something you should be able to do in the Monitor settings.
[03:45] <K1rk> xisor: I have another thing you can try.
[03:45] <xisor> K1rk: how about settings so it doesnt go to sleep when i close the lid?
[03:45] <xisor> K1rk: what is it?
[03:45] <K1rk> xisor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1695807
[03:45] <vajrapani666> I need to know the exact command to install an older version of firefox, and i would prefer not to build from source. I've looked up the .deb package on launchpad and downloaded that, but dpkg -i will not resolve dependencies.. There must be someway to do this using apt-get !
[03:46] <_jon180_> i see several bug reports for nvidia graphics cards and unity 3d but they are unclear which apply to me and what the solutions are, can someone help me figure these out?
[03:46] <jagginess> vajrapani666, you can download previous versions from the mozilla site..
[03:46] <xisor> K1rk: so i should set it up as if it only had the 1 speaker even though it has 2?
[03:46] <xisor> K1rk: wont that sound bad?
[03:46] <yugnip> can you grab it from synaptic and force then pin the version vajrapani666
[03:46] <K1rk> xisor: That's what it sounds like your laptop is designed to do.
[03:47] <xisor> K1rk: so you think windows driver just does it automatically and thats why both seem to work?
[03:47] <xisor> K1rk: and its really just 1 speaker?
[03:47] <K1rk> _jon180_: I don't use Unity but I'd be happy to stab at this and help narrow down what applies to you.
[03:47] <K1rk> xisor: From what I read... yes that's exactly what I think is going on.
[03:47] <xisor> K1rk: oh, so that should fix it then
[03:47] <xisor> K1rk:  1 more question , ty for all the help btw
[03:48] <xisor> K1rk: how do i mount a windows shared folder in linux? and have it attempt to do so at every bootup to the same place?
[03:48] <K1rk> _jon180_: Do you know what nvidia card you have?
[03:48] <xisor> K1rk: a network share
[03:48] <_jon180_> not exactly
[03:48] <EliahKagan> vajrapani666: there might not be a lot of (or any) dependencies you don't already have, i'd go ahead and try installing the .deb package with dpkg, if you have the .deb package ...just be aware that with an old Firefox version, you will be at high security risk because of very popularly known and exploited vulnerabilities that have been fixed in current versions
[03:48] <K1rk> xisor: Yeah you mean a Samba share
[03:48] <K1rk> xisor: You want to put it in your fstab
[03:48] <_jon180_> K1rk: what is the command to find this?
[03:49] <xisor> K1rk: ya
[03:49] <xisor> K1rk: how?
[03:49] <EliahKagan> vajrapani666: you can also install Firefox manually with the binary installer packages from the upstream site: http://askubuntu.com/questions/83227/how-can-i-install-a-specific-older-version-of-firefox-and-keep-it-from-automatic
[03:49] <K1rk> xisor: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/configure-a-system-to-automount-a-samba-share-with-etcfstab/
[03:49] <vajrapani666> jagginess: those are source distributions,  I'm trying to avoid building manually at all costs because if we ever need to bump up the firefox revisions, i will have to clean out the old version myself (doubt i will remember where i left the src makefile for make uninstall)
[03:49] <K1rk> _jon180_: Ahhh now I see exactly how I can help you. :P
[03:49] <K1rk> _jon180_: lspci | grep nVidia
[03:49] <K1rk> (case sensitive)
[03:50] <xangua> vajrapani666: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/  download the version you want, extract it and run it; and they are not sources just the binary
[03:50] <EliahKagan> vajrapani666: you don't have to build manually unless you're using an uncommon architecture -- for the most popular architecture, the Firefox upstream site has *binary installers*
[03:50] <hk19> (xisor) softwares are available 4 auto mounting
[03:50] <K1rk> _jon180_: If that has nor esults just do lspci | grep VGA
[03:50] <vajrapani666> So pinning down the package in synaptic sounds like what i need ... but i'm curious , why provide the apt-get install package=version at all ?
[03:50] <EliahKagan> vajrapani666: like xangua is saying
[03:50] <harushimo> is there a way to make new launcher items?
[03:50] <K1rk> harushimo: Yeah, where do you want to make them?
[03:50] <xisor> K1rk: sounds confusing lol
[03:51] <K1rk> xisor: Be happy to walk you through it, I've done it before for sshfs
[03:51] <_jon180_> K1rk: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G72M [GeForce Go 7400] (rev a1)
[03:51] <EliahKagan> vajrapani666: are you asking why you can specific a version to retrieve and install if it might be automatically upgraded to a higher version anyway?
[03:51] <harushimo> right on the desktop and the move them to the launcher
[03:51] <xisor> K1rk: sure, let me use the restroom please brb
[03:51] <EliahKagan> vajrapani666: ...or something else?
[03:51] <K1rk> _jon180_: Okay so now you know what you're looking for. Bugs affecting the GeForce 7400
[03:51] <K1rk> xisor: k
[03:51] <harushimo> I know 10.04 there was an option called create icon
[03:51] <harushimo> you can use that to create an icon by doing the path
[03:51] <_jon180_> oh, i meant they provide a fix for nvidia cards, but it does not say how to get the fix
[03:51] <vajrapani666> I'm asking , what is the point of providing the ability to specify the specific version of a package to install (i.e. by t he syntax apt-get install packagename=version) if there is no way to install packages by this method?
[03:52] <K1rk> _jon180_: Oh, my bad.
[03:52] <EliahKagan> vajrapani666: you can install packages that way, it works fine if the version you specify is provided in one or more of the software sources (repositories) you have enabled
[03:52] <vajrapani666> By not being able to install packages by this method i mean, there is no way to list the possible versions to install, err.. the list of valid arguments for version for the version-specific apt-get command)
[03:52] <_jon180_> and there are many solutions but none worked, probably because i am not understanding correctly
[03:52] <K1rk> _jon180_: Have you seen http://askubuntu.com/questions/125608/unity-3d-no-longer-works-after-installing-12-04
[03:53] <xisor> K1rk: back, can use this method to mount hidden shares as well/
[03:53] <K1rk> xisor: Yeah I don't see why not
[03:53] <xisor> K1rk: i hid all my shared folders by using $ at the end of them in windows for the share name
[03:53] <K1rk> xisor: Alright, so you still have that link I gave you?  Just look at the first gray code box.  The //ntserver/docs/...... one
[03:53] <xisor> K1rk: yes
[03:53] <K1rk> xisor: In your terminal type (sudo nano /etc/fstab)
[03:53] <_jon180_> that is one, yes but that was an older solution that had a security concern, i was looking at the code fix that was released, not sure how to get it
[03:54] <K1rk> xisor: okay so you now see your fstab?
[03:54] <xisor> yes
[03:54] <_jon180_> for example, this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/982485
[03:54] <K1rk> xisor: Be careful in there, if you mess up fstab you may have to recover with a Live CD because your hard drive won't remount on boot. :P
[03:54] <xisor> K1rk: sounds bad lol
[03:54] <harushimo> oh yeah it is
[03:54] <harushimo> I've done it
[03:54] <K1rk> xisor: Okay that being said, let's get started modifying it. :D
[03:55] <xisor> K1rk: you arent making me feel very good about this
[03:55] <xisor> K1rk:  lol
[03:55] <K1rk> xisor: Go to the bottom line of the file.
[03:55] <xisor> K1rk: ok
[03:55] <vajrapani666> nonethelesss.. thank you for your guys help!
[03:55] <K1rk> xisor: I think fstab is parsed top to bottom so if you screw up on the bottom it won't prevent your other stuff from still working.
[03:55] <K1rk> xisor: You may want to add a comment like "# My Windows Shares"
[03:55] <C0deMaver1ck> what's the best way to install Ubuntu Server on an SD card from a Mac?
[03:55] <xisor> K1rk: ok
[03:56] <K1rk> xisor: Okay so now use the example from the link I gave you.  That should be how you want to mount your smb share.
[03:56] <xisor> K1rk: is there a way to see if my shares even work before i add lines to this?
[03:56] <K1rk> xisor: Sure, "Connect To Server" will let you connect to your samba share.
[03:56] <K1rk> xisor: type in unity launcher.
[03:57] <xisor> they work
[03:57] <xisor> K1rk: ok so use the example?
[03:57] <K1rk> xisor: k cool.  Yeah the example explains how to write the fstab line.
[03:57] <K1rk> xisor: Write 1 fstab line for each Windows share you want to mount.
[03:58] <K1rk> xisor: You'll just be replacing docsadm with your username, D1Y4x9sw with your password, and //ntserver/docs with your share path.
[03:58] <K1rk> xisor: /mnt/samba will be changed to the mountpoint you want your samba mounted to
[03:58] <xisor> can i mount multiple things to the same place?
[03:58] <K1rk> xisor: no
[03:58] <xisor> K1rk: can i do /mnt/windows/mounthere? for each one?
[03:59] <K1rk> xisor: sure
[03:59] <xisor> K1rk: a subfolder of /mnt/windows?
[03:59] <xisor> K1rk: ok
[03:59] <K1rk> xisor: I think that's "for a different distro". Ubuntu it's traditionally /media/windows/mnthere
[03:59] <K1rk> Not that it matters, you can mount it literally anywhere
[03:59] <reisio> /mnt/ is just for manual moint points, is all
[03:59] <xisor> K1rk: will all my apps see it as if it were a local file?
[03:59] <K1rk> xisor: That's the idea.
[03:59] <reisio> /media/ is a convention of gvfs or something, regardless of distro
[04:00] <K1rk> reisio: Ah. I don't really use any non Debian flavors these days. So I just kind of assumed.
[04:00] <reisio> K1rk: just FYI =)
[04:02] <xisor> is there a way to copy and paste a line?
[04:02] <xisor> 99% of each line is the same
[04:02] <xisor> only 2 characters are different lol
[04:02] <K1rk> xisor: Highlight, right click, copy.
[04:02] <K1rk> Go to next line
[04:02] <K1rk> Right click anywhere, paste
[04:02] <K1rk> Or, in nano, ctrl + k to cut, ctrl + u + u to paste twice.
[04:02] <K1rk> lol
[04:02] <harushimo> question for the fstab file
[04:02] <K1rk> harushimo: ShooterMG
[04:02] <K1rk> harushimo: shoot *
[04:02] <K1rk> lol
[04:03] <harushimo> couldn't you make fstab.bak?
[04:03] <K1rk> harushimo: yeah but you'd still have to manually restore it while on a live cd
[04:03] <harushimo> really
[04:03] <K1rk> harushimo: fstab is what tells your computer how to mount /. If you can't mount / you're not going to be booting up.
[04:03] <harushimo> if you mv command on the bak file, it would restore the original settings
[04:03] <harushimo> you are right
[04:03] <K1rk> :P
[04:04] <harushimo> I see what you are saying
[04:04] <xisor> done, how do i save?
[04:04] <K1rk> CTRL +X to exit nano.
[04:04] <K1rk> Press Y to confirm save, hit enter
[04:05] <xisor> done
[04:05] <xisor> do i reboot now/
[04:05] <xisor> and hope i didnt nuke my os?
[04:05] <K1rk> Yeah. If you did, just boot into a live CD, mount your hard drive from the Places menu, and edit fstab. Put a # in front of your new lines.
[04:05] <K1rk> :P
[04:05] <K1rk> I think you'll be fine.
[04:05] <RFrith> how can i install a win7 ?
[04:06] <K1rk> RFrith: Alongside Ubuntu?
[04:06] <reisio> RFrith: just make space for it and install normally
[04:06] <xisor> K1rk: brb, ill reboot and then you can tell me how to find my mounted stuff :D
[04:06] <K1rk> xisor: k
[04:06] <RFrith> will i can't boot ubuntu when installed win7?
[04:07] <harushimo> I didn't get to answer my question
[04:07] <harushimo> hehe
[04:07] <harushimo> just kidding
[04:07] <harushimo> two questions: I want to be able to make desktop icons
[04:07] <rootyourself> hi.  does anyone know what the tegra3 support is like in linux these days?  was interested in getting a transformer prime and installing ubuntu or debian on it
[04:07] <harushimo> how would I do that?
[04:07] <RFrith> reisio: Will i can't boot ubuntu after installing win7?
[04:08] <RFrith> K1rk: Yes
[04:08] <ActionParsnip> rootyourself: could get a trimslice. Those are badass
[04:08] <K1rk> RFrith: If you install Windows after Ubuntu, Microsoft breaks the boot loader.
[04:08] <xangua> !grub2 | 'cause you deleted grub RFrith
[04:08] <K1rk> RFrith: It's better to install Ubuntu second, but if you can't, you can reinstall grub from a live CD.
[04:09] <xisor_> K1rk: i am back
[04:09] <rootyourself> ActionParsnip: never seen that.  look really great.  i am only looking at the transformer prime because of travel
[04:09] <K1rk> RFrith: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:09] <K1rk> xisor_: cool
[04:09] <K1rk> xisor_: Glad you didn't bust it up
[04:09] <xisor_> K1rk: so wheres my stuff?
[04:09] <reisio> you can also use Windows' boot loader, but it's inferior of course :p
[04:09] <K1rk> Go to where you mounted it, xisor_
[04:09] <RFrith> K1rk: THANK YOU VERY MUCH
[04:09] <xisor_> K1rk:  how?
[04:09] <xisor_> K1rk:  there is nothing in /mnt/
[04:09] <xisor_> K1rk: so i think it didnt work
[04:10] <K1rk> Ah maybe because /mnt/windows doesn't exist, xisor_
[04:10] <K1rk> mkdir /mnt/windows then reboot
[04:10] <K1rk> Actually mkdir /mnt/windows/all-your-mountpoints
[04:10] <K1rk> I think the folders have to be there. Sorry I forgot that part
[04:10] <xisor_> K1rk: oh see you never said that XD
[04:10] <K1rk> xisor_: Yeah my bad sorry
[04:10] <K1rk> Long day and I'm multitasking
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> rootyourself: makes sense
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> !arm | rootyourself
[04:11] <xisor_> k brb
[04:11] <rootyourself> ActionParsnip: yup.  tegra 3 chipset has had bad support from nvidia in the past and i have not really followed it as a result.  was curious if anyone here knew if there are updates with tegra 3 directly.
[04:12] <xisor> K1rk: i am back, let me look now
[04:13] <reisio> tegra being used for tablets now
[04:13] <xisor> K1rk: my folders are empty, they didnt mount
[04:13] <harushimo> someone suggested a symbol link to my home directory
[04:13] <harushimo> when I'm trying to setup my  vm or mount
[04:14] <harushimo> which is better for vm? mount of the hard drive or symbol link
[04:14] <harushimo> I mean symbolic link
[04:14] <rootyourself> it makes no difference harushimo
[04:15] <harushimo> I'm creating a virtual machine
[04:15] <harushimo> that is why i asked the question
[04:15] <K1rk> xisor: You may have something not quite right in your syntax.
[04:15] <harushimo> I'm guessing it still makes no difference in that aspect
[04:15] <rootyourself> yup, it makes no difference
[04:15] <K1rk> xisor: If you look at /var/log/syslog... perhaps "cat /var/log/syslog | grep samba"
[04:15] <K1rk> xisor: You might get some hints as to what's gone wrong
[04:16] <harushimo> I just created the partition
[04:16] <harushimo> I don't know if it has the systems files on it
[04:16] <xisor> no output from that command
[04:17] <xisor> brb again, i changed my windows pc to all caps, and correctly capitalized theusername, see if that helps
[04:17] <harushimo> I don't see my new partition on fstab
[04:17] <xisor> i think linux is case sensitive
[04:17] <xisor> brb
[04:17] <harushimo> ?
[04:17] <harushimo> I created it using gparted
[04:18] <xisor_> K1rk: i am back
[04:18] <rootyourself> harushimo: that is because you have to add it
[04:18] <xisor_> K1rk: does it wait to bring up networking and connect to my wireless network before it tries doing that?
[04:19] <K1rk> ....interesting point
[04:19] <harushimo> oh okay
[04:19] <K1rk> I don't know......
[04:19] <Harris> when i minimaze and exit a window i want fire to burn it
[04:19] <xisor_> K1rk: how to fix? :P
[04:19] <harushimo> I never mess with the fstab file
[04:19] <harushimo> how would I do that?
[04:20] <harushimo> do I need to setup a mount point in gparted itself?
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> Harris, you can do it if compiz effects
[04:20] <rootyourself> well your questions are good but your understanding of what you need to do is lacking
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> in*
[04:20] <rootyourself> gparted can really only create partitions on the disk
[04:20] <Harris> i looked it is not there wilee-nilee
[04:20] <rootyourself> if you created the partition (hopefully not on a drive that you had important data on)
[04:21] <harushimo> is there a program in linux that does both?
[04:21] <rootyourself> then you need to tell fstab what to do with your partition
[04:21] <rootyourself> if it is in fstab, it will be mounted manually
[04:21] <xisor_> ?
[04:21] <Harris> wilee-nilee,  please give me step by step instructions
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> Harris, I'm not in the unity desktop, so I can't give you exact directions.
[04:21] <Harris> !flood
[04:21] <harushimo> oh okay
[04:21] <rootyourself> if you add it to the fstab and don't reboot you can just do mount nameofmountpointfromfstab to mount it
[04:21] <harushimo> gparted has a option called mount point?
[04:22] <rootyourself> http://www.google.com/search?q=how%20to%20edit%20fstab&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t
[04:22] <Harris> wilee-nilee,  the power of google
[04:22] <xisor_> K1rk:  is there another way to do the same thing? such as a batch file run after bootup is completely done?
[04:26] <EliahKagan> harushimo: no, the mount point associated with a partition is in the OS's configuration, not the partition table itself
[04:26] <harushimo> ok
[04:27] <harushimo> how do I mount the partition I just created in gparted
[04:27] <manadys> harushimo: very carefully...
[04:27] <manadys> usually mount /dev/partition /mnt/mountpoint...
[04:27] <manadys> and if you want to have it automount, then you need to add it to fstab...
[04:27] <rootyourself> make a directory, do mount -t ext4 /dev/sdcwhatever
[04:28] <rootyourself> make sure you replace ext4 with the correct fs type on the partition
[04:28] <manadys> rootyourself: why do you need the -t? Doesn't mount detect that when possible?
[04:28] <rootyourself> no
[04:28] <EliahKagan> or you can leave off -t and the partition type -- mount can auto detect it except for really exotic partition types or when there is severe corruption
[04:28] <rootyourself> it can? well nice.  didn't know that
[04:28] <Harris> burn is not in effect list in compiz
[04:28] <EliahKagan> yeah, i leave off -t all the time, and i've never had a problem except when i typed the device name in wrong
[04:29] <EliahKagan> in contrast, with -t will sometimes "work" even if you type in the device name wrong (like leaving off the partition number and mounting the raw drive) ....and that's baaaad...
[04:30] <manadys> wouldn't it also allow you to mount an ext4 partition as ext2...
[04:30] <rootyourself> i have never successfully mounted non enumerated partitions
[04:30] <rootyourself> i'd like to try tho
[04:30] <EliahKagan> some partition types interpret a device name differently though, so if you want to use mount instead of smbmount or mount.cifs to mount a Samba share, you need to specify -t smbfs, because otherwise a device that looks like //hostname/sharename won't make sense to the mount command
[04:30] <manadys> which in theory would be fine, but that would defeat the purpose of using ext4 (assuming my understanding of ext4 is correct)
[04:30] <xisor_> anybody know of a way to check my cpu temp in linux?
[04:31] <rootyourself> acpi -V
[04:31] <Harris> burn is not in effect list in compiz
[04:31] <EliahKagan> manadys: yes, but (as you're saying) i'm not sure that's actually dangerus, provided that the partition was properly unmounted first (so the journal is written)
[04:31] <Guest32517> anyone know how to setup google payments with ubuntu store?
[04:31] <Daniel110> hi all so i finally decided after using ubuntu on a virtualbox for a while to make the move and switch from windows. However i want to still keep windows. I never partitioned my hard drive so i am a little confused. My hard drive already has 4 partitions. I did a google search i read that can i remove the recovery boot after making a backup cd. After that i am a little confused i found many different guides online that say different t
[04:31] <Daniel110> hings
[04:32] <Guest32517> Doesn't the ubuntu install cd have that option already? @Daniel110
[04:32] <rootyourself> Daniel110: before you do anything MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BACKUP
[04:32] <rootyourself> with that many partitions, you are sure to hose something
[04:32] <harushimo> very carefully
[04:32] <harushimo> I want to do this properly
[04:32] <EliahKagan> Daniel110: yes, backups are key when repartitioning especially if you are a novice or rusty or just anyway ;-)
[04:33] <EliahKagan> Daniel110: ideally, it might be best to remove a partition that is not bootable, as that is easier to restore properly -- if you have a recovery partition that has a Windows directory in it, that's probably bootable, whereas a "utility" partition is less likely to be bootable
[04:33] <rootyourself> Daniel110: in the past, if all 4 partitions were primary, you would not be able to add more partitions ... not sure if this is still a restriction
[04:33] <Guest32517> Only don't make backups if you don't want to keep Windows. :0
[04:33] <rootyourself> but as a consideration, if your system is old enough, you can end up hosing your windows partition scheme
[04:33] <rootyourself> may not be an issue any more perhaps
[04:34] <EliahKagan> well, you can reinstall windows (if you have installation media or can get it from your OEM) ...you can't reinstall documents that aren't backed up...
[04:34] <xisor_> rootyourself: he needs to create restore cds, because by default ubuntu installer will install grub to /dev/sda and he wont be able to boot into the recovery app anymore
[04:34] <harushimo> I want to automount the partitino
[04:34] <harushimo> I mean partition
[04:34] <harushimo> how do I do it through fstab
[04:34] <Guest32517> seriously, is there any way to use google payments?
[04:34] <xisor_> rootyourself: had that happen on this laptop earlier today as a matter of fact
[04:34] <rootyourself> what xisor_ said is correct.  please make sure to do that.
[04:35] <Daniel110> Yes i am making the recovery cd later and i read that the recovery parition on windows is just used to create the recovery cds so i guess that once i made them i can delete the partition
[04:35] <EliahKagan> Guest32517: the install CD will automatically repartition for you, but not if you already have 4 primary partitions with an MSDOS partition table, because one has to be removed to make an extended partition, to then create logical partitions in; you can't have more than 4 primary partitions with an "MSDOS" partition table
[04:35] <xisor_> rootyourself: not like i care personally, ive got windows cds if i ever need to, but for most, yea make those recovery discs
[04:35] <rootyourself> xisor_: i keep on forgetting that the big manufacturers have restore partitions.  i have not bought a windows machine in like 15 years.
[04:35] <Harris> how do i make ubuntu launcher look like a macs launcher
[04:35] <wa5qjh>  Anybody ever see a problem  like this that prevents installng any new apts.  updating, dpkg retreivals or any else having to do with adding new apts or updating:
[04:35] <Daniel110> My problem is that i really don't know where to go from there. After deleting the recovery i will have 3 partitions left
[04:35] <wa5qjh> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ph.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en
[04:35] <dbummy> Can someone help me with fetchmail.... I had it working fine on my other server (12.04 server - 32bit) and I'm using the same configuration on 12.04 server 64-bit but it keeps giving me an error --- Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:35] <Guest32517> EliahKagan: I dislike Windows, so sorry for the misinformation
[04:36] <Harris> how do i make ubuntu launcher look like a macs launcher
[04:36] <xisor_> rootyourself: you can install grub to /dev/sda2 and keep your recovery, and windows install intact
[04:36] <xisor_> rootyourself: youll need to walk them through doing that in the advanced partition settings though
[04:36] <bazhang> !repeat | Harris
[04:36] <Harris> ActionParsnip, how do i make ubuntu launcher look like a macs launcher
[04:36] <xisor_> rootyourself: i dont know how myself, im no expert
[04:36] <Harris> bazhang,  how to you type staight line down
[04:36] <bazhang> Harris, stop repeating every five seconds
[04:36] <Guest32517> harris: shift backslash
[04:37] <EliahKagan> Guest32517: i don't consider what you said misinformation, it just doesn't apply to Daniel110's present situation (but it's also not specific to Windows -- four primary partitions without any of them Windows produces the same situation with the Ubuntu installer)
[04:37] <Daniel110> What about wubi is that a good alternative?
[04:37] <reisio> Daniel110: to what?
[04:37] <Harris> Guest32517, that did not work see ?
[04:37] <rootyourself> your problem is not the installer Daniel110
[04:37] <xisor_> Daniel110: wubi is good to try things out with, better than virtualbox by a country mile
[04:37] <Guest32517> Daniel110: I've used Wubi. It works quite well.
[04:38] <xisor_> Daniel110: but for a permanent install you want dual boot
[04:38] <rootyourself> it is the fact that you have a windows install that you want to keep and you have never done this before
[04:38] <rootyourself> the problem is between the keyboard and chair
[04:38] <wa5qjh> wubi worked good for me for many months.  till I hosed it up.
[04:38] <Guest32517> Harris: You have a nonstandard keyboard
[04:38] <reisio> Daniel110: ah
[04:38] <rootyourself> create your backups then use wubi or any installer to give it a go
[04:38] <Harris> what is a nonstandered keyboard
[04:38] <reisio> Daniel110: four partitions already? Is one D:?
[04:38] <Guest32517> Harris: non qwerty.
[04:38] <Harris> how do i make ubuntu launcher look like a macs launcher
[04:38] <rootyourself> the installers will run you through everything, you just have to make sure not to make a poor choice
[04:38] <reisio> Harris: dvoark? :)
[04:38] <xisor_> rootyourself:  honestly for a general home user who also wants to keep windows, wubi isnt a bad choice
[04:39] <reisio> Harris: does macs launcher have a name?
[04:39] <xisor_> rootyourself: you lose what? a little bit of disk performance, nothing major ona  modern machine
[04:39] <Harris> reisio, i dont know
[04:39] <reisio> xisor_: until its bugs make them stop using Linux altogether
[04:39] <Daniel110> 4 parittions: c:, Recovery(D:), HP_TOOLS, SYSTEM
[04:39] <rootyourself> xisor_: never said it was.  i'm trying to make sure Daniel110 doesn't loose what she needs the most.
[04:39] <rootyourself> Harris: what do you mean by the launcher?
[04:40] <reisio> Harris: how about 'slingshot'
[04:40] <xisor_> rootyourself: i agree, which is windows, and with the partition scheme used by default, he/she may just
[04:40] <rootyourself> you mean the applications menu?
[04:40] <Daniel110> he
[04:40] <Harris> rootyourself,  the mac dock
[04:40] <Lirth> cwilkins: I think your cord is tangled
[04:40] <reisio> Harris: with the icons?
[04:40] <xisor_> Daniel110: give it a try with wubi, its pretty much full speed, if you find it to your liking, get to know it a bit, then the process will be much easier to change over to a proper dual boot
[04:40] <rootyourself> ah.  two things you can try: 1) find a theme similar to the mac dock 2) find a dock that works like it
[04:40] <Harris> yes reisio
[04:40] <xisor_> Daniel110: if you DONT grow to like it, uninstall wubi as you would any windows app and your done
[04:41] <xisor_> Daniel110: no harm done
[04:41] <reisio> Harris: mmmm, Unity's side bar is basically like that, isn't it?
[04:41] <rootyourself> i have seen awesome used as the mac doc (the one on the bottom) for this
[04:41] <EliahKagan> Harris: Docky (http://wiki.go-docky.com/index.php?title=Welcome_to_the_Docky_wiki) will run well on Ubuntu and is in many ways similar to the Mac OS X launcher (which is called "the Dock")
[04:41] <rootyourself> its basically an app you can install and manage
[04:41] <wa5qjh> I can no longer add apps via apt-get, dpkg, Softweare center or synaptic because all of those report this error:
[04:41] <EliahKagan> reisio: the Unity launcher doesn't really behave the same way as Docky and the Mac OS X "Dock"
[04:41] <wa5qjh> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ph.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en
[04:41] <wa5qjh> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[04:41] <dbummy> Can someone help me with fetchmail.... I had it working fine on my other server (12.04 server - 32bit) and I'm using the same configuration on 12.04 server 64-bit but it keeps giving me an error --- Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:41] <rootyourself> there are probably a few applications that imitate the mac dock
[04:42] <Outlander> hi team, I have an issue where ubuntu 12.04 installer cannot see existing partitions on my drives during install, so I'm unable to dual boot windows
[04:42] <EliahKagan> wa5qjh: it's better to post multi-line error messages at http://paste.ubuntu.com and link to it here, as it's easier to see the whole error and it doesn't flood the channel
[04:42] <reisio> well there are a lot of more specific clones
[04:42] <rootyourself> just google it.  but you won't really be able to get the gnome panel to mimic the mac dock to any great success
[04:42] <Lirth> How are the ubuntu distros named (like the animals)?
[04:42] <Daniel110> xisor_: I already used ubuntu for the past 6 montsh maybe and i really like it. The problem is that i still need windows for some .NET development i do and gaming. The problem is not whether i am gonna like it or not.
[04:42] <Guest32517> Lirth: They are named in order of the alphabet
[04:42] <Daniel110> What can i do with a dual boot that i can't to with Wubi?
[04:43] <reisio> dated list: http://darrenyates.com.au/2008/09/10-free-mac-os-x-like-docks-for-linux/149
[04:43] <Harris> thank you EliahKagan
[04:43] <reisio> Daniel110: easily access your Ubuntu files from Windows
[04:43] <EliahKagan> Harris: no problem
[04:43] <EliahKagan> Outlander: do you get an error, or does it show you a blank disk, or what are you getting?
[04:43] <Guest32517> Daniel110: nothing, but ubuntus performance is downgraded a little bit
[04:43] <Outlander> the included Disk Utility on the live boot usb image can see all the partitions but the installer cannot, any workaround for this?
[04:43] <reisio> Daniel110: remove/modify Windows at a later date easily
[04:43] <Outlander> it sees 2 blank drives
[04:43] <xisor_> Daniel110: its not an issue of what you cant do, you can do pretty much everything, the problem is wubi relies on the health of your ntfs partitions, and viruses and problems in windows may nuke your wubi
[04:43] <reisio> Daniel110: dual boot should be more reliable, as well
[04:43] <harushimo> can someone guide me to automount my partition in fstab
[04:43] <xisor_> Daniel110: it runs a little slower as well, but far faster than virtualbox
[04:43] <rootyourself> anyone here run ubuntu on a tegra 3 chipset device?  i need to know how you find the performance and whetehr or not the beta/alpah drivers from nvidia are any good
[04:43] <Outlander> whereas the drives have a existing partitions. I've tried using both MBR and GUID partitions
[04:44] <Harris> EliahKagan,  in compiz burn is not listed under effects
[04:44] <Outlander> installng windows 7 first, then booting ubuntu off usb to attempt an install...
[04:44] <reisio> Daniel110: do you have an external/secondary drive where you can put the backups?
[04:44] <EliahKagan> Harris: i don't know a lot about CCSM (i probably wasn't the one who said to use it...it's a good utility, but i haven't actually used it)
[04:44] <Daniel110> reisio: No
[04:44] <reisio> rootyourself: glxgears ?
[04:44] <xisor_> reisio: another option for daniele may be usb stick install, a 16 gig usb stick is only a few bucks, and then no harm at all can come to his pc
[04:44] <Harris> ok
[04:44] <EliahKagan> Outlander: what type of partitions are they? is this a mac? are they HFS+?
[04:45] <rootyourself> reisio: if i had a tegra 3 machine here, would i be asking in the channel?
[04:45] <Daniel110> xisor_ : Wouldn't that really slow?
[04:45] <Harris> EliahKagan,  i have a hp
[04:45] <Harris>  ku-
[04:45] <xisor_> Daniel110: not neccesarily
[04:45] <Harris> 0316 keyboard how do i type a staght line
[04:45] <Daniel110> xisor_: Would it be faster than wubi?
[04:45] <wa5qjh> EliahKagan would probably be a good ideah If I had the bandwidth to do it. getting things in my browser these days can take forever if at all. 20KBps is tops and sometimes all I can get is about 600 baud!!
[04:45] <xisor_> Daniel110: my usb drive is an SSD put in a cheap usb enclosure, you can buy external usb hard drives as well
[04:45] <Outlander> this is a new dell inspiron 15R special edition
[04:46] <EliahKagan> Harris: is this (that you have a HP) in relation to the compiz thing?
[04:46] <xisor_> Daniel110: it would be from a hard drive, from a usb flash drive, depends on the drive, but probably no
[04:46] <Guest32517> rootyourself: what tegra 3 device are you looking at? 'cuz it might be better looking at the device vs the processor
[04:46] <reisio> Daniel110: it's actually not a problem that you have four partitions, you can still resize the largest to make space for Ubuntu
[04:46] <Outlander> which has 2 drives, a 1tb sata and a 32gig msata (SSD)
[04:46] <Harris> EliahKagan,  no
[04:46] <Outlander> the partition is basically an ntfs partition on the 1tb sata of 100gig in size
[04:46] <Daniel110> reisio: I thought you couldn't have more than 4 partitions
[04:46] <reisio> Daniel110: that's 'primary' partitions you're thinking of
[04:46] <Outlander> I've also tried all 3 disk modes in the bios, achi, ata and Intel speed mode
[04:46] <EliahKagan> Harris: i'm afraid you may have lost me then ...the mac question was to Outlander, if that was the mixup
[04:47] <xisor_> reisio: only problem daniel is going to face is needing help doing the partitioning and grub setup manually, default will nuke both her windows and her recovery partitions
[04:47] <xisor_> reisio: if someone can help him do that, its no problem at all to dualboot
[04:47] <Harris> EliahKagan,  i would like to be able to type a straight line down
[04:47] <rootyourself> Guest32517: asus transformer prime.  i've read tegra3 nvidia drivers sucked if they even existed.  i just noticed nvidia released some drivers for the tegra 3 but i'm not about to stuff money in asus pockes to find out i cannot run debian/ubuntu on it realistically.  i am hoping to run into some real world users here. :)
[04:47] <Outlander> the windows partitons are basic ones too
[04:47] <reisio> xisor_: I doubt it'll nuke the recovery partition
[04:47] <EliahKagan> reisio: right, but how are you going to create an extended partition to hold logical partitions when you already have 4 primary partitions, without removing a primary partition? the limitation is 4 primary or 3 primary + 1 extended
[04:47] <irong33k> how do you get sound preferences -> hardware to detect bluetooth so that i can sync my bluetooth headsets (bh-503)
[04:47] <reisio> xisor_: the MBR possibly, but that's of no concern
[04:47] <Outlander> it's just the ubuntu installer in 12.04 (and on the alternate boot cd) do not appear to see any partitions
[04:48] <rigved> Outlander: in the installer, on the partition menu, there is a drop down to select the hard disk. Have you tried that? It will allow you to choose between the SSD and the HDD.
[04:48] <xisor_> reisio: it installs grub to the recovery partition by default, so ubuntu wont load, and the recovery wont either
[04:48] <Outlander> I've also tried the previous version of ubuntu but with the same result
[04:48] <xisor_> reisio: so someone needs to help them put grub somewhere where it WILL load, such as the windows partition
[04:48] <reisio> EliahKagan: oh, got me there
[04:48] <Outlander> the installer has 2 options, one is wipe everything and the other is something else
[04:48] <rootyourself> EliahKagan: is the 4 primary partitions still an issue?
[04:48] <reisio> Daniel110: what's the smallest partition?
[04:48] <xisor_> reisio: that is literally the only issue
[04:48] <Outlander> choosing something else, I get a view with 2 drives both showing no partitions and empty space
[04:48] <xisor_> reisio: XD
[04:48] <rigved> Outlander: choose "Something else"
[04:49] <EliahKagan> rootyourself: are you asking if that is still a technical limitation for data storage, or if that is still something we're working on for Daniel110 in this channel?
[04:49] <reisio> xisor_: no it should install to the space at the beginning reserved for the MBR
[04:49] <xisor_> reisio: should be a ~100mb partition labeled windows 7 loader
[04:49] <Outlander> whereas the Disk Utility will show the disks with all the partitions present
[04:49] <rigved> Outlander: but you said that the Disk Utility of the Live CD is able to see them, right?
[04:49] <irong33k> help needed to synce my bluetooth headsets! bh-503
[04:49] <xisor_> reisio: well, the defualt left my windows working and my recovery nuked earlier
[04:49] <xisor_> reisio: so it cant go in its default
[04:49] <Outlander> correct, the disk utility can see everything
[04:49] <reisio> xisor_: nuked?
[04:49] <rootyourself> EliahKagan: datastorage.  for some reason i thought that went away as a technical limitation a  while back.
[04:49] <Daniel110> reisio: HP_TOOLS
[04:50] <reisio> Daniel110: how big?
[04:50] <EliahKagan> Outlander: if choosing something else doesn't show your partitions, then try selecting "Try Ubuntu without installing" instead of "Install Ubuntu", then when the desktop comes up run GParted and see what that shows you
[04:50] <rigved> Outlander: create the partitions using the Disk Utility and use them in the installer.
[04:50] <caffine> trying to use ffmpeg to convert an ogg to an mpeg, but i'm getting a blocky result. i've tried changing things like -b and found that 0.5 had a bug that was fixed in 0.6, but i have 0.7. any ideas? i've tried -v codec mpeg2video and mpeg4 as well as -b 5000k  the file size changes, but the quality does not.
[04:50] <xisor_> reisio: sorry, inaccesible, unable to load recovery, and ubuntu not loading either
[04:50] <Daniel110> 103MB all 4 say primary parition
[04:50] <xisor_> reisio: the default location for grub was somewhere where it doesnt attempt to boot from
[04:50] <xisor_> reisio: which is the recovery partition
[04:50] <reisio> xisor_: probably just confused, not destroyed entirely, but who knows
[04:50] <xisor_> reisio: it needs to be elsewhere, and that has to be done in the advanced options where you do partitioning
[04:50] <reisio> Daniel110: okay, I doubt very much you need hp_tools for anything
[04:50] <Outlander> I have created partitions using Disk Utility but the disks only show up as empty with the installer
[04:50] <reisio> Daniel110: dd it to a file backup and delete it
[04:50] <EliahKagan> rootyourself: it sort of did ;-) it is a limitation of an MS-DOS partition table (or MS-DOS disklabel as BSD folks call it) -- there are other types of partition tables (like GPT) that don't have this limitation, but you can't change your type of partition table without "erasing" the drive
[04:50] <K1rk> Who was chatting with me earlier regarding my VPN issue?
[04:51] <Outlander> this is a new model inspiron, so maybe it's out of the ordinary
[04:51] <xisor_> reisio: /dev/sda2 was where my windows bootloader was, and that is where grub should go
[04:51] <xisor_> reisio: devault is /dev/sda1, which is recovery
[04:51] <Daniel110> i did a google search and i read that people had some problems after deleting it
[04:51] <xisor_> reisio: in my case that is
[04:51] <rootyourself> EliahKagan: thought so. thx for confirmation.
[04:51] <reisio> Daniel110: link?
[04:52] <EliahKagan> rootyourself: since some OSes and utilities don't (or used to not) have good support for partition table types besides MS-DOS, MS-DOS continues to be used by default by most applications and OEM's, so the silly limitation stays with us even though technology has advanced far beyond needing it
[04:52] <reisio> Daniel110: how big are c & d?
[04:52] <rigved> Outlander: possible. create the partitions in Disk Utility. They should show up in the installer. Then, you can use the partitions as-is.
[04:52] <Outlander> I'll give that another try, rigved...
[04:52] <Daniel110> c - 581GB  d - 14.35GB
[04:52] <harushimo> I see the partition I created on my nautilus but how do I automount and access that partition?
[04:52] <rootyourself> EliahKagan: luckily cfdisk lets us choose :)
[04:52] <Daniel110> System 199MB
[04:52] <Cerrdor> Anyone have experience with bind9 zone configurations?
[04:52] <reisio> Daniel110: mmm
[04:53] <reisio> Daniel110: and you've got an Ubuntu liveCD/USB already?
[04:53] <Outlander> even deleting the partitions I had previously (not the win7 partition) causes an error
[04:53] <Outlander> Error erasing: helper exited with exit code 1: In part_del_partition: device_file=/dev/sdc, offset=105906176
[04:53] <Daniel110> reisio: I have the iso that i used for vbox
[04:53] <Outlander> so I'm guessing the disk utility and ubuntu in general has issues seeing these partition tables?
[04:53] <EliahKagan> Outlander: what happens if you create a blank, unformatted new partition in Disk Management in Windows?
[04:54] <Outlander> EliahKagan: have tried that also, creating raw blank partitions in windows
[04:54] <EliahKagan> i don't know why it isn't seeing them...you could search on Launchpad for bugs about it...
[04:54] <Outlander> but doesn't seem to be visible in ubuntu installer either
[04:54] <rigved> harushimo: you need to put an entry in /etc/fstab to auto-mount the partition. which type of partition is this? NTFS, EXT4?
[04:54] <EliahKagan> Outlander: what happened when you did that?
[04:54] <EliahKagan> huh
[04:54] <EliahKagan> darn
[04:54] <wa5qjh> From inside windoze you can try EasyBCD to manage your partitions. I have Win-7, Ubuntu-11.04 and PCBSD 9.0 running for me right now. not simultaneous of course ..
[04:54] <harushimo> ext4
[04:54] <Outlander> It's like whatever windows does to the partition table confuses linux
[04:54] <harushimo> I did a label to the partition called virtual
[04:55] <harushimo> how do I put the entry in
[04:55] <EliahKagan> Outlander: i think trying EasyBCD as wa5qjh suggests may help
[04:55] <EliahKagan> also are you making sure to shut down Windows cleanly?
[04:55] <rigved> harushimo: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[04:55] <Outlander> and I can't install linux then windows, as linux booter will be wiped...maybe I can do a ubuntu repair after that and get back to square with 2 OSes dual booting?
[04:55] <harushimo> I'm in the file
[04:55] <Outlander> easybcd
[04:55] <Outlander> ok cool, thanks heaps, I'll give that  go
[04:55] <EliahKagan> Outlander: yes, if you want you can do that, it's easy to reinstall the GRUB2 boot loader after the MBR gets overwritten by a new Windows installation
[04:55] <harushimo> I'm in the file
[04:56] <harushimo> I did that command
[04:56] <reisio> Daniel110: okay, well
[04:56] <Outlander> ok will install linux first, then windows, then easybcd from there to dual boot?
[04:56] <EliahKagan> Outlander: but if you try EasyBCD or viewing the partitions in GParted first, that can save time and effort, especially since you already have the Windows system installed
[04:56] <reisio> Daniel110: you can dd the partition to a file to make a backup
[04:56] <harushimo> rigved: what's the next step
[04:56] <reisio> Daniel110: and save a copy of the partition layout for good measure
[04:56] <wa5qjh> EasyBCD has also helped my recover a windows partition after hosing it up with other OS's.
[04:56] <harushimo> I mean putting in the entry?
[04:56] <rigved> harushimo: sudo blkid
[04:56] <Outlander> windows install is base install, havent installed anything after it was run up
[04:56] <Daniel110> reisio: I would i do that?
[04:56] <reisio> Daniel110: then you can either use http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&docname=c00810279 or just reformat that partition after resizing during Ubuntu install
[04:56] <rigved> harushimo: type that in another terminal
[04:56] <reisio> Daniel110: just in case you want it later, it's small so it won't take long at all
[04:57] <harushimo> I did that
[04:57] <Outlander> ok so I have windows installed but not linux currenty. Advice is to run easybcd in windows now and carve up the partitions with it ready for linux install?
[04:57] <wa5qjh>  And , I might mention PCBSD folks are having some troubles with nvidia drivers as well.
[04:57] <harushimo> whats blkid?
[04:57] <Daniel110> reiso: After i remove the recovery what should i do?
[04:57] <rigved> harushimo: do you see the partition that you want to auto-mount?
[04:57] <Outlander> can it "sanitise" the partition table to be viewable by linux while preserving windows?
[04:57] <harushimo> it hasn't showed up at all
[04:57] <rigved> harushimo: in the output of blkid?
[04:58] <harushimo> no I don't see it
[04:58] <harushimo> I did sudo blkid
[04:58] <harushimo> is that right?
[04:58] <rigved> harushimo: can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[04:58] <reisio> Daniel110: delete the hp_tools partition and resize C: to make room to install Ubuntu, then install normally _to that empty space_
[04:58] <reisio> Daniel110: it'll ask you whether you want to keep windows or not, etc.
[04:58] <harushimo> I don't have anything to paste
[04:58] <harushimo> let me try one thing
[04:59] <harushimo> sudo blkid >> output.txt file, could this work?
[04:59] <rigved> harushimo: yes.
[04:59] <reisio> Daniel110: defrag the filesystems from Windows before resizing and it'll be more likely to go off without a hitch
[04:59] <reisio> Daniel110: if it's a new box it should be virtually entirely defragged already
[04:59] <harushimo> its working
[04:59] <Daniel110> reisio: defrag?
[04:59] <harushimo> this is taking a while