[00:09] <freeflying> _Groo_: you'd upload a new version again, not just a diff
[00:09] <JontheEchidna> _Groo_: build with -S -sd
[00:09] <JontheEchidna> that way you won't have to resend the orig
[00:09] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: ok thanks
[00:09] <JontheEchidna> it'll try to be smart and include the source since the version string most probably contains 0ubuntu1
[00:10] <JontheEchidna> but -sd overrides taht
[00:10] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: amarok is on its way with apachelogger recomended fixed.. now its 12M.. much better
[00:12] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: highly recomend you guys to play with it... these new services are very cool
[00:13] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: later im gonna do a separate package for it, maybe then we could add it to kubuntu-ppa
[00:13] <_Groo_> ?
[00:13] <_Groo_> separate package for playground services i mean
[00:13] <JontheEchidna> that'd be neat
[00:15] <Nightrose> no
[00:16] <Nightrose> please don't
[00:16] <Nightrose> this stuff is in our playground for a reason
[00:16] <Nightrose> ;-)
[00:17] <Nightrose> I am not a big fan of having that released somewhere at this point
[00:19] <_Groo_> Nightrose: ok... ill just blog about it and provide in a ppa with a big (not finished sign)
[00:19] <Nightrose> I can't stop you
[00:20] <Nightrose> but as I said I'd rather not have that
[00:20] <_Groo_> Nightrose: btw any eta for the master opening up.. i cant wait for the docker patch to merge
[00:20] <Nightrose> next week
[00:20] <Nightrose> but i'm not sure when Nikolaj will merge that patch
[00:20] <_Groo_> Nightrose: why not? the idea is for early adopters to get a taste of whats to come.. if open source was about development through obscurity what would be the point of open svn/git, etc
[00:21] <_Groo_> Nightrose: if never :P
[00:21] <Nightrose> things in playground are not ready - as soon as we think they are reasonably ready for feedback and testing they will be moved out of playground
[00:21] <Nightrose> until then testing and bugreports are useless
[00:22] <Nightrose> and we'll just get lots of complains
[00:22] <Nightrose> and users not understanding that this is nowhere near complete
[00:22] <_Groo_> Nightrose: like i said.. i would blog and post.. this ppa has a experimental code, dont even bother to bug report or bug the devs.. its a for your eyes only thing
[00:23] <_Groo_> Nightrose: and my blog isnt that well known anyway :D
[00:23] <_Groo_> Nightrose: its not like im gonna publish it to slashdot lol
[00:31] <Nightrose> as i said, i can't stop you ;-)
[00:31] <Nightrose> all I can do is tell you what upstream would like
[00:31] <_Groo_> Nightrose: and what upstream would like?
[00:32] <JontheEchidna> she is upstream ;-)
[00:32] <Nightrose> she is even upstreams release manager ;-)
[00:33] <groo_> Nightrose: ok nightrose, ill wait..
[00:33] <Nightrose> thanks
[00:34] <groo_> dinner bbl
[00:34] <Nightrose> cu
[05:35] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[06:13] <_Groo_> amarok 2.1.1 svn with playground enabled available in my ppa.. enjoy! https://edge.launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ppa
[08:51] <apachelogger> Quintasan: I reviewied something, dunno what it was
[08:51] <apachelogger> ah right, krunner-kopete :D
[08:52] <apachelogger> though
[08:52] <apachelogger> come to think of it
[08:52] <apachelogger> Quintasan: you should discuss the name with the debian-kde team
[08:52] <apachelogger> because technically it should be plasma-runner-kopete
[08:53] <apachelogger> then again upstream uses krunner-kopete, which makes it less confusing as well
[08:53] <apachelogger> worth discussing I guess
[09:06] <Quintasan> apachelogger: okay I will ask them what the package name should be :P
[09:17] <Quintasan_> wth
[09:17] <Quintasan> srsly
[10:18] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: please keep an eye on bug 381580
[11:44] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ping
[11:45] <apachelogger> Quintasan: pong
[11:45] <Quintasan> apachelogger: if I changed package name I should upload it to revu as a new package or there is certain way of doing this?
[11:46] <apachelogger> no, there is not
[11:46] <Quintasan> okay
[11:46] <apachelogger> Quintasan: debian liked plasma-runner better?
[11:46] <Quintasan> yup :)
[11:46] <apachelogger> thought so :D
[11:46] <Quintasan> Who should I poke to get my old packages removed from REVU?
[11:47] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I also got the licese issue fixed so I think it's ready to go
[11:47] <Quintasan> s/licese/license
[11:47] <apachelogger> Quintasan: youll need to poke a revu admin
[11:47] <apachelogger> or we could just archive it
[11:48] <apachelogger> though honestly I dont see the point in keeping it :D
[11:48] <Quintasan> apachelogger: yup, waste of space, where I can find them?
[11:49] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-runner-kopete
[11:49] <apachelogger> Quintasan: there is a list of admins in the ubuntu wiki I think
[11:49] <apachelogger> otherwise just start whining in #ubuntuwire
[11:50] <apachelogger> Quintasan: still doesn't sound too correct
[11:50] <apachelogger>  This is a plugin for KRunner which searches through your Kopete contacts and
[11:50] <apachelogger>  allows you to start a chat with them without needing to open Kopete window.
[11:51] <apachelogger> that sounds like kopete window was a trademark or something
[11:51] <apachelogger> or like a name ... my name is window, kopete window
[11:51] <apachelogger> I also still think the build-deps need a line break
[11:51] <Quintasan> lol
[11:52] <apachelogger> + you could drop kdelibs5-dev ... both other -devs depend on it
[11:52] <Quintasan> I hate writing descriptions >_<
[11:52] <apachelogger> and that will never ever change I guess :D
[11:52] <apachelogger> everyone hates writing descriptions :P
[11:53] <apachelogger>     the Free Software Foundation; either version 3 of the License, or
[11:53] <apachelogger>     (at your option) any later version.
[11:53] <apachelogger> vs.
[11:53] <apachelogger>  *   it under the terms of the GNU General Public License version 3 as
[11:53] <apachelogger>  *   published by the Free Software Foundation
[11:53] <apachelogger> taking aside the fact that the wording is different, the meaning is as well ;-)
[11:53] <apachelogger> later vs. no-later
[11:55] <Quintasan> apachelogger: http://pastebin.com/f26d6e124 <-- is this better?
[11:55] <apachelogger> no :P
[11:55] <Quintasan> FFFFUUUU-
[11:56] <apachelogger> that sounds like the plugin doesn't need to look through the whole list ;-)
[11:56] <apachelogger> Quintasan: I think you can stick with what you have now
[11:56] <apachelogger> just make it say "the Kopete window"
[11:56] <apachelogger> or the Kopete contact list
[11:57] <Quintasan> ...needing to open the Kopete contact list?
[11:57] <Quintasan> argh
[11:58] <Quintasan> I accidentaly my description
[11:58]  * Quintasan loves undo
[11:59] <apachelogger> something like that
[11:59] <apachelogger> but TBH I find the whole sentence weird :P
[11:59] <apachelogger> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-runner-kopete
[12:01] <Quintasan> carp, I uploaded it to Ubuntu
[12:01] <Quintasan> lol
[12:07] <Quintasan> apachelogger: check it please :>
[12:07] <apachelogger> huh?
[12:08] <apachelogger> Quintasan: your uploads to ubuntu will get rejected
[12:08] <apachelogger> only uploads from MOTU/core-devs even get into the NEW queue
[12:08] <Quintasan> apachelogger: well, I already noticed it :P
[12:08] <Quintasan> apachelogger: it's on REVU, updated :P
[12:09] <apachelogger> still sounds weird
[12:09] <apachelogger> what is concerning is the change to copyright though
[12:10] <apachelogger> Quintasan: you should really check what I am talking about
[12:10] <apachelogger> a) I am only human as well b) you might not understand me correctly
[12:10] <apachelogger> b especially applies to stuff I say :D
[12:10] <apachelogger> Quintasan: check what the .cpp says
[12:10] <apachelogger> and what your copyright says
[12:11] <Quintasan> ah, k I get it nao
[12:11] <Quintasan> I will just remove (or later) form copyright, this will be okay?
[12:12] <apachelogger> Quintasan: well, if I was you, I would just copy the .cpp's license header and remove the c++ comment markers
[12:12] <apachelogger> don't forget to remove the +  from GPL-3+ again
[12:12] <Quintasan> hmm, sounds good
[12:18] <Quintasan> apachelogger: it's good now
[12:22] <apachelogger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/190232/
[12:22] <apachelogger> I wonder if that is right
[12:23] <apachelogger> hard to read for sure
[12:23] <Quintasan> ........
[12:26] <Quintasan> I don't see anything wrong there
[12:29] <Quintasan> lol @ Complex example at debian wiki
[13:16] <Mamarok> question in #kubuntu: can grub run on a ext4 partition?
[13:19] <valgaav_> yes it can, I dropped by to #kubuntu and answered that :P
[13:21] <Mamarok> valgaav_: thank you :)
[18:51] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[18:53] <Riddell> hi _Groo_
[18:54] <_Groo_> hi Riddell
[18:54] <_Groo_> Riddell: whats up?
[18:55] <Riddell> CDs 60MB oversized
[18:55] <Riddell> guess I should look into what's bringing in those wallpapers
[18:55] <_Groo_> Riddell: ehehehe
[18:56] <_Groo_> Riddell: rip openoffice out :D
[18:56] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: plasma-wallpapers-addons
[18:56] <JontheEchidna> which kdeplasma-addons brings in
[18:56] <_Groo_> Riddell: just kidding btw.. nut OO relatted, is the openoffice kde extension ported to kde4 yet?
[18:57] <JontheEchidna> and in beta2 it'll bring in marble-data too via libmarble4 via plasma-wallpapers-addons
[18:58] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: Hi, if you have a second please take a look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/plasma-runner-kopete :P
[18:58] <_Groo_> oh btw i dont know if you read the backlogs but amarok with playground activated is in my PPA
[18:59]  * Quintasan likes this
[18:59] <ScottK> _Groo_: It's this the stuff that Amarok upstream asked you not to package because it wasn't mature yet?
[19:00] <_Groo_> ScottK: yes but i didnt publish it anywhere, no blogging nothing, i just sent to ppa because its the first build in a long time, and i had to revise my diffs about 5 times.. its a testing build
[19:01] <_Groo_> ScottK: that way i can keep up with future code drops with relative ease
[19:01] <ScottK> _Groo_: You're advertising it here.
[19:01] <apachelogger> worse things have been advertised here
[19:01] <ScottK> True.
[19:02] <JontheEchidna> bah, revu went down during my revu
[19:02] <_Groo_> ScottK: here we are all packagers/developers, you know what you are doing.. the idea here is for you guys to test it and see if my packaing is ok
[19:02] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: the description looks better
[19:02] <ScottK> _Groo_: I think it
[19:02] <ScottK> _Groo_: ... I think it's fine to mention it, but it should get mentioned with a disclaimer.
[19:03] <_Groo_> ScottK: i just did :) you didnt let me finish my original post/warning :D
[19:03] <ScottK> OK.
[19:03]  * _Groo_ warns that is amarok PPA build is a EXPERIMENTAL EXPLOSIVE DESTRUCTIVE KITTIE EATER BUILD
[19:03] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: have anywhere where you could throw the diff.gz?
[19:04] <apachelogger> paste it :D
[19:04] <_Groo_> but between you and me, it works like a charm ;)
[19:04] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: y
[19:04] <apachelogger> coz tha revu went down on jonny
[19:04] <_Groo_> i understand Nightrose zeal for the code and QA, but they must be comended.. it works very well for experimetnal code
[19:05]  * JontheEchidna is wondering if that is a "y" and in "yes", or a "y" and is "why?"
[19:05] <Quintasan> JontheEchidna: http://hs.quintasan.pl/plasma-runner-kopete_0.2.1-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[19:05] <JontheEchidna> thx
[19:05] <Quintasan> as in yes
[19:05] <Quintasan> :3
[19:05] <JontheEchidna> kk
[19:06] <_Groo_> huuu new mesa code, me going to restart X, brb
[19:06]  * Quintasan will update raptor-menu
[19:09] <JontheEchidna> Quintasan: needs debhelper 7 for pkg-kde-tools
[19:09] <Quintasan> k
[19:10] <JontheEchidna> easy enough to just change on my end, so we don't have to go pasting around diffs and such
[19:11] <Quintasan> hmm I can't upload...
[19:11] <JontheEchidna> anyways, looks good. I'll just change that bit and upload
[19:11] <Quintasan> okay, thanks
[19:11] <JontheEchidna> once revu is back up I'll give it the second ack and archive the revu upload
[20:00] <groo_> i just finished k9copy 2.3.2 anyone interested?
[20:02] <Nightrose> btw is it possible to get amarok 2.1 into official backports?
[20:03] <Nightrose> it would really help us with not getting anymore 2.0.2 sucks comments
[20:10] <ScottK> Nightrose: Is 2.1 final in Karmic?
[20:11] <Nightrose> ScottK: afaik yes
[20:11] <ScottK> If it is, then get someone to file a bug in jaunty-backports, test, etc, and then ping me.
[20:11] <ScottK> Nightrose: ^^
[20:11] <Nightrose> ok thx
[20:12] <Nightrose> i'll start by filing the bug
[20:24] <Nightrose> ScottK: ok bug filed - how many reports do you need approximately?
[20:25] <ScottK> Nightrose: Exactly one that says it builds, installs, and runs on Jaunty (with a debdiff if required - not needed is debian/changelog is the only change).
[20:27] <Nightrose> ok
[20:32] <lex79> _Groo_: k9copy 2.3.2 is in archive already
[20:33] <_Groo_> lex79: since when? i didnt got an update
[20:33] <Quintasan> anyone knows how can I change X resolution via command line?
[20:34] <lex79> _Groo_: in Karmic
[20:34] <apachelogger> Quintasan: xrandr
[20:34] <lex79> _Groo_: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k9copy
[20:34] <_Groo_> lex79: ah ok..
[20:35] <lex79> ;)
[20:35] <_Groo_> im also doing kmplayer-0.11.1a.tar.bz2 and audex-0.71b2.tar.bz2
[20:37] <lex79> already in Karmic _Groo_ ;)
[20:38] <_Groo_> lex79: for jaunty :P no one ever remembers the jauntys
[20:39] <Nightrose> apachelogger: JontheEchidna: does one of you have time for https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/jaunty-backports/+bug/384585 ?
[20:39] <Nightrose> (giving ack that it builds and installs
[20:40] <_Groo_> Nightrose: i already did amarok 2.1 for jaunty
[20:40] <_Groo_> Nightrose: and yes it builds and installs, but need to backport taglib-extra and qtscripting
[20:40] <Nightrose> yes but I am trying to get it into official backports
[20:40] <_Groo_>  Nightrose: yes i read.. im just saying i might be able to help building it
[20:41] <Nightrose> ah well that shouldn't be a problem as it is already in the kubuntu ppa
[20:41] <JontheEchidna> yeah, I could give it the ack right now
[20:41] <Nightrose> thx JontheEchidna :)
[20:41] <JontheEchidna> just after I make sure there weren't really any changes jr made when he backported
[20:41] <Nightrose> sure - it's not _that_ urgent ;-)
[20:42] <JontheEchidna> yeah
[20:46] <JontheEchidna> there is a slight change that needs to be made, I can prepare a debdiff
[20:50] <JontheEchidna> meh, it'll also need a backport of qtscriptbindings
[20:51] <JontheEchidna> I might not have time today for that
[20:51] <JontheEchidna> /s/might/probably won't
[20:55] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: your syntax is flawed
[21:42] <vorian> ∞
[22:04] <vorian> JontheEchidna: where does your app live?
[22:07] <vorian> ah plasma-addons
[22:24] <JontheEchidna> vorian: yeah, addons
[22:28] <jussi01> hei everyone!
[22:28]  * jussi01 waves
[22:28]  * ScottK waves back.
[22:28]  * _Groo_ summons a wave demon
[22:29]  * ScottK wields the "The Flaming Bacon Lance of Death" to keep the demons at bay.
[22:29] <ScottK> http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/04/15/bb-video-the-flaming.html for those that don't know.
[22:30] <jussi01> hehe
[22:30] <_Groo_> ScottK: not fair :D bacon lance of death always kills demons :D
[22:46] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: kdelibs-experimental not pushed?
[22:47] <JontheEchidna> I thought I did that one, lemme double-check
[22:47] <JontheEchidna> I am too used to svn now :(
[22:49] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: pushed
[22:49] <Riddell> "Add libaspell-dev to build-deps"  erk, don't do that