[04:29] <motoh> I'm not asking for his help, I already declined his advice.
[04:29] <Greybeard> trayzz: yeah, so just don't bother
[04:29] <wgrant> KitsuneDragon: There are several others.
[04:29] <motoh> syn, you and others have been helpfu.
[04:29] <unknown_> formerguest: the line should look like this: xrandr --newmode "1280x1024_60.00"  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync
[04:29] <wgrant> KitsuneDragon: Arora, Epiphany, etc.
[04:29] <JNSamuel> syn-ack: suck up :P
[04:29] <TheCheeze> krishna, did you get that memo?
[04:29] <trayzz> Greybeard ayy
[04:29] <om26er> Greybeard: sudo apt-apt-repository ppa:chromium-daily
[04:29] <Roasted> Question - if I'm adding a computer name from another Ubuntu machine to my /etc/hosts file for DNS to pick up the name properly, should that machine have a static IP? I was just thinking, I have the 192.168 IP + PC name in /etc/hosts, and if the router ever assigns it a different IP, I assume my DNS would error out and Iw ouldn't find that computer by computer name. Is my train of thoguht right?
[04:29] <erikk71usa> the monitors turns black
[04:29] <KitsuneDragon> jlewis: and of course all the awesome add ons i cant live without
[04:29] <Guest68190> Izinucs i get this error bash: cd: ubuntu-effects: No such file or directory
[04:29] <erikk71usa> im talking ubuntu 9.10
[04:29] <Greybeard> om26er: you think Chromium which is in its infancy should replace the much more mature and functional Firefox as the default?
[04:29] <erikk71usa> install issue
[04:29] <syn-ack> JNSamuel, No, that was my being polite. I just know when to bite my tounge
[04:29] <unknown_> formerguest: if your cvt info is just like my monitor, you can use mine - but if it - make sure yours just loook like the line above.
[04:29] <KitsuneDragon> wgrant: but those dont have wide users right?
[04:30] <jlewis> Greybeard, epiphany is the GNOME compliant browser...
[04:30] <om26er> Greybeard: people take risk.
[04:30] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Right. Then you would have to edit your /etc/hosts again. :\
[04:30] <formerguest> unknown_: kk just a second
[04:30] <LordHawke13> niadh: Oh. That. I went to Wine > Configure Wine and got it. I enabled all the audio drivers but some apps still don't gimme any sound.
[04:30] <niadh> Izinucs: I edited the line and appended the pci=nomsi before quiet splash, dunno if i did it right though
[04:30] <syn-ack> wgrant, whats his issue btw? I didnt get to see initial question
[04:30] <wgrant> KitsuneDragon: Correct.
[04:30] <JNSamuel> "gentle person" that's more than being polite :D
[04:30] <wgrant> syn-ack: udev hanging obscurely on boot.
[04:30] <erikk71usa> it has a bug in it
[04:30] <KitsuneDragon> wgrant: ok
[04:30] <Izinucs> Guest68190: ah.. to change channels.. type /join #ubuntu-effects
[04:30] <krishna> TheCheeze, ok.. hurd is helping me now.. i am folllowing his steps.. thanksyou
[04:30] <wgrant> syn-ack: And he refuses to file a bug.
[04:30] <motoh> There's less udevadm settle issues this time.  I snapped shots of the message, will pastebin shortly.
[04:30] <LordHawke13> niadh: One of the ones I was really hoping for was PowerTAB Editor. . .
[04:30] <Greybeard> yeah, I use Chromium and other browsers, but Firefox should definitely remain the default
[04:30] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - is there no other alternative to getting ubuntu boxes to communicate easily based on computer names in a DHCP environment?
[04:30] <TheCheeze> krishna, good luck :)
[04:30] <syn-ack> thats his problem then. Only wish he'd file a bug so it could get tracked.
[04:30] <erikk71usa> cause i have installed ubuntu 9.10
[04:30] <niadh> LordHawke13: The guitar tab program?
[04:30] <KitsuneDragon> Greybeard: agreed Firefox should be default
[04:30] <jlewis> Greybeard, maybe you have plenty of hardware?
[04:30] <LordHawke13> niadh: Si
[04:30] <MaxJizzy> hello
[04:31] <krishna> TheCheeze, thanks! B-)
[04:31] <Greybeard> jlewis: plenty of hardware for what?
[04:31] <jlewis> but I have always had major issues with it, on multiple systems
[04:31] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: There are many ways you could do.  Install samba and you could "ssh dell"
[04:31] <om26er> Greybeard: chromium is not yet final so way to go but still its usable speedy and also qucik UI
[04:31] <niadh> LordHawke13: Wine in my experience has had issues getting midi playback working
[04:31] <motoh> syn, wgrant, filing a bug is slow and obscure.  I prefer to hunt before leaving my fate in the hands of an inert forum post.
[04:31] <tarelerulz> Chrome as it stands should not replace any browser .  it is faster then Firefox ,but not better by any means . Firefox should stay the default browser until something truly better comes along
[04:31] <wgrant> w
[04:31] <formerguest> unknown_: ok now type xrandr again?
[04:31] <unknown_> formerguest: the line to be executed should look like this: xrandr --newmode "1280x1024_60.00"  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync
[04:31] <syn-ack> a udev issue would probably be fixed in a few hours.... its sad that he doesnt want to play with the rest of the kids on the play round
[04:31] <motoh> I will file a bug as a last resort.
[04:31] <unknown_> formerguest, No - let's add the mode now
[04:31] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - I use samba heavily on my ubuntu system here. I'm just trying to find ways I can utilize it to communicate by computer name without having to edit /etc/hosts.
[04:31] <motoh> If I can file a bug and a fix, that's much better off.
[04:31] <LordHawke13> niadh: That explains why Guitar Pro won't work either. . . Doesn't it?
[04:31] <Greybeard> om26er: Chromium is promising, but won't be a good alternative to Firefox for quite some time IMHO
[04:31] <wgrant> motoh: It is not an Internet forum post. It is a bug tracker looked at by the very developers of the software with which you are having problems.
[04:31] <MaxJizzy> a friend is installing ubuntu and in the partition section he say that he can't get farther cuz ubuntu say that he has no rootsystem selection or something like that, what is the prob? and how do he fix it?
[04:31] <KitsuneDragon> om26er: but that leaked google os browser was very fast and stableish
[04:31] <formerguest> unknown_: ok how?
[04:31] <unknown_> formerguest: now type: xrandr --addmode VGA1 "1280x1024_60.00"
[04:32] <niadh> LordHawke13: Doesn't it what?
[04:32] <Guest68190> Izinuc same error  laptop:~$ /join #ubuntu-effects
[04:32] <Guest68190> bash: /join: No such file or directory
[04:32] <jlewis> memory waste, slow, and not compliant with the gnome environment quite perfectly
[04:32] <om26er> tarelerulz: chrome is not out yet. let it get out and be mature for another year and then see
[04:32] <JNSamuel> tbh wine is rubbish, most windows applications don't work with it
[04:32] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - you see, editing the host file and assigning a static IP here is no biggie. But every time I do something here in my little LAN at home, I wonder - how would I do this with Ubuntu on 500 machines at work. Which begs the obvious question, how do I have 500 Ubuntu machines communicate in a DHCP environment based on computer name? I can't edit the host file on each one 400 times a day...
[04:32] <unknown_> formerguest: I'm assuming that your VGA1 is what says when you first typed in xrandr
[04:32] <jlewis> and it often hangs for no reason, not just on flash but on random things
[04:32] <wgrant> motoh: If you do not file a bug, you forfeit your privilege to complain about it when it is not fixed.
[04:32] <LordHawke13> niadh: Explain why Guitar Pro (PowerTAB that costs money) won't work.
[04:32] <KitsuneDragon> JNSamuel: some do though and those some are good
[04:32] <Izinucs> Guest68190: you're trying to get in a different irc channel.. so where you type messages to me here.. type /join #ubuntu-effects
[04:32] <syn-ack> wgrant, exactly
[04:32] <om26er> !bug | mot
[04:32] <motoh> wgrant, it's not on the dev to fix it until I'm sure it's a bug.
[04:32] <bastid_raZor> MaxJizzy: he needs to specify which partition has a mountpoint of /
[04:32] <Guest68190> Izinucs laptop:~$ /join #ubuntu-effects
[04:32] <Guest68190> bash: /join: No such file or directory
[04:32] <motoh> wgrant if it's something I can fix, it's not a bug, just a configuration.
[04:32] <wgrant> motoh: It is not booting => it is a bug.
[04:32] <JNSamuel> KitsuneDragon: there are always open source alternatives
[04:33] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Using Samba or Avahi would be the great way to go.
[04:33] <wgrant> motoh: If it is not booting by default, there is a bug.
[04:33] <jlewis> I have 256M 1.1 GHz and it barely handles Firefox with other apps open
[04:33] <niadh> LordHawke13: No idea, I've just never had much luck with wine and midi, there might be a way, but i never found it
[04:33] <Izinucs> Guest68190: not at terminal .. in your irc client
[04:33] <unknown_> formerguest: after hitting enter, you can now just type: xrandr ---- you should be able to see the new resolution setting just added
[04:33] <om26er> Guest68190: typing in terminal??
[04:33] <muri_one> found the answer http://live.gnome.org/Tomboy/Directories
[04:33] <LordHawke13> niadh: Are you on the new Karmic release?
[04:33] <KitsuneDragon> JNSamuel: still they are not as popular or good like Andrea Mosaic
[04:33] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - so say I installed samba on all 500 machines. Would they work okay then? Because I have samba installed on BOTH ubuntu machines here at home, and they dont talk to each other unless /etc/hosts is set up.
[04:33] <syn-ack> wgrant, At this point I'm likely to just suggest that you let him pout and try to fix it. He'll come around.
[04:33] <formerguest> unknown_: um it's hanging in the terminal after I pressed enter.
[04:33] <om26er> Guest68190: type in pidgin irssi xchat.
[04:33] <Zoohouse> hello everyone. just testing irc from my android phone. Samsung Moment. :-)
[04:33] <wgrant> syn-ack: I suspect so.
[04:33] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Try "ssh machine_name" and see if that works for you.
[04:33] <motoh> syn-ack, I will indeed.  I just want to exaust personal options first.
[04:33] <jlewis> is the chrome browser still called chromium then, because I might try it out
[04:33] <unknown_> formerguest: it should look something like this: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 800 x 600, maximum 4096 x 4096
[04:33] <unknown_> VGA1 connected 800x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
[04:33] <unknown_>    800x600        60.3*
[04:33] <unknown_>    640x480        59.9
[04:33] <unknown_>    1280x1024_60.00   59.9
[04:33] <FloodBot1> unknown_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:34] <niadh> LordHawke13: Working on that, but i always have the latest wine
[04:34] <erikk71usa> HI#########
[04:34] <radar1976> grrr
[04:34] <motoh> wgrant if I've offended you I apologise, but I prefer mangling this with my own hands before trusting it out.
[04:34] <radar1976> something is not working with apache2
[04:34] <JNSamuel> KitsuneDragon: never heard of Andrea Mosaic, so it's not _that_ popular :p
[04:34] <formerguest> unknown_: the "xrandr --addmode ..." command didn't seem to finish -- it's hanging.
[04:34] <radar1976> I can't get my virtualhosts to work....
[04:34] <wgrant> motoh: You trust yourself to debug udev more than the people who have done it hundreds of times before?
[04:34] <unknown_> formerguest: what did you exactly type in?
[04:34] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - it did work, but I have /etc/hosts set, let me remove that entry quick and try it again.
[04:34] <Guest68190> Izinucs sorry still new to linux
[04:34] <radar1976> can anyone help?
[04:34] <kinja-sheep> !apache | radar1976
[04:34] <metainfinity> hi
[04:34] <kinja-sheep> radar1976: Also, #apache
[04:34] <Izinucs> Guest68190: no problem.. it's a new world here for lots
[04:34] <motoh> wgrant: I trust myself to either remove or fix the device that is twitching udev off.
[04:34] <syn-ack> I'm going to go play BoFH ball in one of my other channels. bbiab
[04:35] <formerguest> unknown_: xrandr --addmode VGA1 "1280x1024_60.00"
[04:35] <LordHawke13> niadh: I noticed the "Share Screen" option in Empathy IM. It made me curious. Could you test that out with me?
[04:35] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - didn't work once I removed that line in /etc/hosts
[04:35] <KitsuneDragon> JNSamuel: no i meant popular for games like WoW Andrea Mosaic is a mosaic creating program and i havnt faound a gui as good as it
[04:35] <sleepy_cat> I had a question regarding the MAC address.. can anyone suggest me some community where I can get my doubts cleared
[04:35] <motoh> wgrant my primary concern is identifying it.
[04:35] <formerguest> unknown_: OK I just pressed enter and it seems ok
[04:35] <Greybeard> sleepy_cat: doubts about your MAC address?
[04:35] <Guest68190> #ubuntu-effects
[04:35] <metainfinity> i just installed 9.1 and i was wondering whether it's normal for my laptop's fan to have been running nonstop ever since i turned it on
[04:35] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: I see... It should work.  Perhaps you would like to use Avahi?
[04:35] <metainfinity> anyone?
[04:35] <JNSamuel> KitsuneDragon: ...
[04:35] <niadh> LordHawke13: Can try it, what network?
[04:35] <unknown_> formerguest: xrandr and see what is listed
[04:35] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - no idea what avahi is...
[04:35] <motoh> metainfinity, are your proprietary drivers if any activated?
[04:35] <KitsuneDragon> JNSamuel: what?
[04:35] <Izinucs> Guest68190: almost .. now add /join before the #ubuntu-effects
[04:36] <metainfinity> i don't know if i have any
[04:36] <formerguest> unknown_: yay I got the new line "1280x1024_60.00   59.9"
[04:36] <LordHawke13> I don't know. I've never worked it! LAWL.
[04:36] <Greybeard> metainfinity: that depends entirely on your laptop
[04:36] <unknown_> formerguest: just enter this line now: xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1280x1024_60.00
[04:36] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Google and you'll learn.  Install avahi-daemon on (all) machines.  Then you would be using "ssh machine_name.local" for local network.
[04:36] <metainfinity> well, what can i do? :/
[04:36] <KitsuneDragon> JNSamuel:.....
[04:36] <Guest68190> Izinucs pasted it wrong
[04:36] <sleepy_cat> yes Greybeard Actually when I am connected to the Internet I get a specific MAC address.. but when I am offline.. I dont get a definite MAC address and most places its just gibberish Garbage.. so i wanted to know why
[04:36] <niadh> LordHawke13: Neither have i
[04:36] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - so if I just install avahi, things should work on the fly without further configuration?
[04:36] <om26er> gtg
[04:37] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: "ssh cloud.local" and "ssh leaf.local"  -- Will work as long as they're on local network where they can be discovered. :)
[04:37] <LordHawke13> niadh: LAWL!
[04:37] <MaxJizzy> bastid_raZor, thnx for that
[04:37] <Greybeard> sleepy_cat: MAC addresses are usually assigned by the network interface manufacturer
[04:37] <jlewis> anyway, I wasn't coming to argue about browsers, but I was curious that it says gecko in epiphany, any other thoughts?
[04:37] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Yup. :)
[04:37] <dennis_> If someone could point me in the right direction, that'd be great.  I had 9.04 installed, and flash in firefox was smooth and normal.  Now in 9.10, I installed the adobe flash player (same as I did in 9.04) and it's incredibly laggy.  Totem movie player can play the flash file in /tmp just fine, so it seems to only be bad IN firefox
[04:37] <JNSamuel> dennis_: --->
[04:37] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - good deal bro, thanks, Ill try that
[04:37] <Greybeard> sleepy_cat: MAC addresses shouldn't ever change unless you do so explicitly
[04:37] <bastid_raZor> MaxJizzy: it takes people a bit to get used to no drive letters.
[04:37] <niadh> Izinucs: My system boots, but i can't move to a different virtual terminal due to the flickering
[04:37] <unknown_> formerguest: after hitting enter, you should be ok (fingers crossed)
[04:37] <motoh> Ok, just need to identify PNP0A08:00/device:02/device:03/device:08/device:09, anyone understand this listing?
[04:38] <Izinucs> niadh: what vid card?
[04:38] <sleepy_cat> Greybeard: yes I know.. but when I am offline I get a different MAC address.. is there a ubuntu terminal command for finding out the MAC accress
[04:38] <sleepy_cat> address*
[04:38] <formerguest> unknown_: NICE the resolution changed!  It looks really tiny but I guess I was just brainwashed by the 800x600 resolution.
[04:38] <JNSamuel> motoh: ouch
[04:38] <mikeru> does OSS4.0 mixer suck as much as alsa's dmix?
[04:38] <niadh> Izinucs: nVidia 6600
[04:38] <Greybeard> sleepy_cat: ifconfig will show MAC addresses
[04:38] <unknown_> formerguest: well, that's the real resolution :)
[04:38] <formerguest> unknown_: I think this called a "modeline" that should be added to the xorg.conf file.
[04:38] <motoh> JNSamuel pardon?
[04:38] <Greybeard> sleepy_cat: but I think you may be confusing MAC and IP addresses
[04:38] <a_> Can someone help me get my intel video card working?
[04:38] <unknown_> formerguest: well, I'll work to make it permanent tomorrow -- I'll see what works best.
[04:39] <sleepy_cat> No Greybeard .. its a program for MAC address only
[04:39] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - wanna know somethin funny
[04:39] <Izinucs> niadh: can you boot into the recovery kernel and do your updates from there? I think it also has a reconfiguration option for video as well.
[04:39] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Sure. :P
[04:39] <osms> should I keep or replace customized configuration files during the upgrade?
[04:39] <Greybeard> sleepy_cat: you don't "get" a MAC address since it's already assigned
[04:39] <fakhir> would anyone have an idea why inserts into an innodb table are extremely slow on MySQL 5.1.37 (Ubuntu server 9.10 64)
[04:39] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - I already had avahi-daemon installed... :(
[04:39] <niadh> LordHawke13: It uses some remote desktop protocal that i never got to work previously
[04:39] <formerguest> unknown_: OK I'll keep in touch through the bug report then, if they don't delete or merge it.
[04:39] <unknown_> formerguest: but for now - you can answer your own bug :)
[04:39] <Shoshana> buntu 64 bit work well with i7 ?
[04:39] <formerguest> unknown_: thanks :)
[04:39] <Greybeard> sleepy_cat: what's a program for MAC address only?
[04:39] <niadh> Izinucs: Will give that a go, if that fails, in theory can't i chroot into my new install?
[04:39] <obiwan_> hey guys please, if i know a bugg, and it's on the web, but i cannot provide new info about it, should i attach an 'endorsement' of it, just to let em know more people suffers from it, or should i keep quiet?
[04:39] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Well? Does it work then? ;3
[04:40] <sleepy_cat> Greybeard: Its a C program.. :)
[04:40] <Izinucs> niadh: never tried.. probably
[04:40] <formerguest> a_: what is your intel video card problem?
[04:40] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: I think that's part of ubuntu-desktop metapackage.  I'm not sure. I'll check.
[04:40] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - No. It didn't work before... remember? avahi-daemon was installed all along and I didn't even know it.
[04:40] <niadh> Izinucs: Am in recovery
[04:40] <Greybeard> sleepy_cat: OK, so what are the two MAC addresses you're concerned about?
[04:40] <niadh> Izinucs: Netroot?
[04:40] <Izinucs> niadh: the 6600 is a good card.. I had one for a while.. still do on the shelf..
[04:40] <sleepy_cat> it computes your MAC address... When I am online its giving me one MAC Address which looks good.. cause its unique and does not change but when you are offline.. its giving garbage
[04:40] <unknown_> formerguest: sweet - take care --- I'll see you during another time...if not, will try to post info about making it permanent on your blog..when I get it working properly
[04:40] <Greybeard> sleepy_cat: what gives you a MAC address?
[04:41] <sleepy_cat> ITs a C Program
[04:41] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: I think it's installed -- but not turned on. I had some problem with avahi-daemon not running. Purging and install usually fix it.
[04:41] <Shoshana> buntu 64 bit work well with i7 ?
[04:41] <selinux> Greybeard: ifconfig -a
[04:41] <Shoshana> ubuntu *
[04:41] <sleepy_cat> it just computes the MAC address thats all
[04:41] <KitsuneDragon> 1402 people in the room jeez
[04:41] <sleepy_cat> ifconfig is not giving me MAC address
[04:41] <niadh> Izinucs: Installing updates, but there's nothing that looks like it might fix Xorg
[04:41] <motoh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/307238/  This is what I'm sitting on.
[04:41] <Greybeard> selinux: yes, I know how to see the MAC address
[04:42] <are_ee> Any one think they could help me with a dualboot issue I'm having?
[04:42] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - no dice still
[04:42] <piroko> What happend to /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[04:42] <niadh> piroko: Fresh install?
[04:42] <selinux> piroko: grub2 happened
[04:42] <Shoshana> ubuntu 64 bit work well with i7 ?
[04:42] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Meh. What command do you use?
[04:42] <are_ee> I have Vista and Ubuntu on the same drive, split my space in half to dualboot them, and vista will no longer run (it hangs at startup with a blackscreen and cursor)
[04:42] <a_> I am not able to get the 3d working It's a intel 950 GMA and I am using a mac
[04:42] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - ssh skynet, skynet being the computer name of the ubuntu machine I'm trying to ssh to.
[04:42] <motoh> Would anyone know how to identify the devices by those listings?
[04:42] <are_ee> Also, checkdisk won't work on vista.
[04:42] <kinja-sheep> !away > crunchbang|Away
[04:42] <Shoshana> ubuntu 64 bit work well with i7 ?
[04:43] <sleepy_cat> How to find your MAC address
[04:43] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: ssh skynet.local
[04:43] <Biovor3> Shoshana: it should
[04:43] <selinux> sleepy_cat: ifconfig -a
[04:43] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - still nothing
[04:43] <Roasted> same error
[04:43] <sleepy_cat> selinux: its the hwaddr right
[04:43] <kinja-sheep> Shoshana: i7 is a processor. It should work fine in most situation.
[04:43] <Biovor3> sleepy_cat: ifconfig   will show the mac address
[04:43] <Shoshana> what about games and unbutu ? CRYSIS , Wolfenstien , and DIRECTX ?
[04:43] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: What error?
[04:43] <Greybeard> sleepy_cat: that's right
[04:43] <a_> I just upgraded to ubuntu 9.10
[04:44] <Biovor3> Shoshana: wine dose it kinda..  but not really..
[04:44] <selinux> sleepy_cat: yes
[04:44] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - ssh: Could not resolve hostname skynet.local: Name or service not known
[04:44] <Shoshana> Biovor3 : what do you mean not really ?
[04:44] <mankeletor> hi all, the new network manager doesnt recognize my movile broadband connection
[04:44] <niadh> Whats the latest nvidia driver?
[04:44] <Biovor3> Shoshana: does direct X 9  or opengl
[04:44] <Shoshana> like XP..
[04:44] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Both machines installed with avahi-daemon? I'm telling you... All of my machines have that package installed and it works fine. ;o
[04:44] <KitsuneDragon> DirectX YUCK! use OpenGL its much better
[04:44] <mankeletor> niadh, 185 i guess
[04:44] <sleepy_cat> my program is not giving the MAC address which is the Hwaddr
[04:44] <Biovor3> Shoshana: frame rate will probably not be very good..
[04:44] <sleepy_cat> It gives the MAC address from the IP address
[04:44] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - let me double check the other machine. I did a fresh install on it earlier todya............
[04:44] <niadh> So to get it the glx package?
[04:44] <sleepy_cat> How is that possible?
[04:45] <sleepy_cat> inet6 addr to be specific
[04:45] <Biovor3> Shoshana: native builds for linux work best.. wine is a hack windows emulation system.. performace isn't very good..
[04:45] <Shoshana> Biovor : so ubuntu and games dont "work" together ?
[04:45] <mankeletor> niadh, maybe 187... dont remember right now
[04:45] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - yup, avahi-daemon installed on 2nd machine too
[04:45] <Shoshana> Biovor : so ubuntu and games dont "work" together ?
[04:45] <KitsuneDragon> shoshana: depends what games you like
[04:45] <niadh> Looks like 185
[04:45] <Shoshana> hard games..
[04:45] <Biovor3> Shoshana: nope.. not really.. unless you have a linux native bins..  ut2004/quake series. have native linux ports..  they work great..
[04:46] <KitsuneDragon> shoshana: becuase they do have open arena or Doom
[04:46] <motoh> Shoshana, hard as in difficult?  Touhou, Shin Megami Tensei series, original NES stuff.
[04:46] <niadh> Shoshana: There's a compatibility layer that got guild wars and civ4 working for me though
[04:46] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: In the terminal, it display 'i' or 'c' in "aptitude search avahi-da" ?
[04:46] <motoh> Can anyone help me understand what udevadm is trying to say to me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/307238/
[04:46] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - i
[04:46] <qwe_> hello. I have a problem after upgrading to karmic koala with my USB 3g modem (ZTE MF622). It's recognized as a drive instead of a modem!
[04:46] <Shoshana> motoh : hard i mean like crysis , wolfenstien , nfs shift , GTA IV !!
[04:46] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Are you using Firewall or anything that may block the port?
[04:46] <sleepy_cat> Get MAC address from IP address.. so if the IP address changes.. everything will change right ?
[04:47] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - no, I didnt install anything
[04:47] <gluonman> What's the best way to setup my Ubuntu partitions if I'm going to dual-boot it with Win7 (Ubuntu first)? I've tried it three times and every time Ubuntu gets corrupted and certain partitions don't end at the cylinder boundaries.
[04:47] <KitsuneDragon> shoshana: ubuntu has wolfenstien
[04:47] <mankeletor> /dev/ttyUSB{0,1,2} missing.. so no movile broadband modem can be recognized.. this new version is a mass
[04:47] <niadh> Shoshana: Try the compatibility layer, might just work for yuo
[04:47] <motoh> Shoshana I sincerely doubt the wine layer can handle those.  I couldn't get it off its face for Left 4 Dead.
[04:47] <TheCheeze> Shoshana, you call the new wolfenstein hard? kids these days...
[04:47] <Biovor3> Shoshana: wolfenstien has a linux port I belive..  crysis will not work on wine yet..
[04:48] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: "status avahi-daemon"
[04:48] <KitsuneDragon> TheCheeze: lol
[04:48] <Izinucs> gluonman: better to install win7 first.. then use it's drive utilities to create/shrink enough space for ubuntu.. then install ubuntu
[04:48] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - status: Unknown job: avahi-daemon
[04:48] <Shoshana> Bivoro3 : dont think Windows 7 design better and performance better ? and the SUPPORT ! with all the Soft, games , directx , all that
[04:48] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Try "sudo /etc/init.d/avahi-daemon restart"
[04:48] <gluonman> Izinucs, what if my boss requested Ubuntu on the first drive?
[04:48] <niadh> Shoshana: GTA 4 ain't gonna work for you
[04:49] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: The daemon wasn't running, I suppose.
[04:49] <Biovor3> Shoshana: I have win7 hear.. I say wait for SP1.. has a few issues still..
[04:49] <Shoshana> niadh : so ubuntu isnt good like i heard ..
[04:49] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - restarted the daemon on both machines, no errors, and still... no dice
[04:49] <TheCheeze> it's good, just not for high-end gaming
[04:49] <Biovor3> Shoshana: well its mostly because vendors don't wire there game for it..
[04:49] <niadh> Shoshana: It's good, but uhm, it's like trying to run a mac game for windows
[04:49] <Biovor3> if they did.. it would be just fine..
[04:49] <Izinucs> gluonman: if you have multiple drives.. doesn't matter.. windows likes to be first.. you can do it the other way but win will mangle grub and you'll end up reinstalling grub.. more time consuming
[04:50] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Probably because it require a reboot or something weird. I'm not sure why this is not working. Generally, I install the packages and it work. Maybe a reboot. I don't specifically remember but it's *this* simple.
[04:50] <KitsuneDragon> TheCheeze: but then what is? Vista?
[04:50] <Dashe> Hi guys! :D
[04:50] <niadh> Izinucs: Using recovery mode to install the nvidia package and changing it in xorg.conf worked!
[04:50] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - hmm, I dont understand. Both machines were rebooted like 20 minutes ago cause I was doing other changes.
[04:50] <TheCheeze> KitsuneDragon, WinME >_<
[04:50] <Izinucs> niadh: yea!
[04:50] <Biovor3> Shoshana: if your using your computer for gamming.. install windows..
[04:50] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Can you try the other machine?
[04:50] <KitsuneDragon> TheCheeze: no Windows 3.1!!!!
[04:50] <Shoshana> Biovor3 : yeah but i want try a new os
[04:50] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: ssh ghost.local
[04:51] <Dashe> I have a question... I don't really like pidgin for msn messenger on ubuntu (just switched from Windows), can anyone recommend anything better?
[04:51]  * TheCheeze has 3.75's of windows 2.0 floating around
[04:51] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - ghost.local??? or do you mean the other computer.local?
[04:51] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: ping -c 3 skynet.local (or any other commands)
[04:51] <gluonman> Izinucs, I'm familiar with the process of reinstalling grub and I'm willing to go through that. I'm just having problems because after the installation of Win7, problems occur with Ubuntu. This time "setup (hd0)" returns error 15.
[04:51] <TheCheeze> 5.75's*
[04:51] <Izinucs> Dashe: aMSN
[04:51] <Biovor3> Shoshana: google on virtual box
[04:51] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Yes, <machine_name>.local
[04:51] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - cannot ping skynet
[04:51] <Shoshana> Biovor3 : well i have Windows Virtual PC
[04:51] <Dashe> thanks lzinucs I'll check that out
[04:51] <motoh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/307238/  Anyone here speak udevadm?
[04:51] <Biovor3> Shoshana: then you can run linux in a window on your desktop
[04:51] <raddmasta> hey guys, I have a 250 gb hard drive. After deleting all partitions and formatting, it says I have 230 gb. how come it's not saying 250?
[04:51] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - cannot ssh in reverse either
[04:51] <osms> is it normal to have many errors during the upgrade process
[04:51] <niadh> Shoshana: Some games do work, some very popular games, others don't, it's a bit more of an art than a science getting some games to wor
[04:51] <sleepy_cat> ifconfig on windows is what
[04:51] <Roasted> kinja-sheep FROM skynet that is
[04:51] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: They're connected locally? (rRouter).
[04:52] <raddmasta> osms: what kind of errors?
[04:52] <bastid_raZor> sleepy_cat: ipconfig
[04:52] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - they're both on a 4 port netgear 10/100 switch. Then the switch is connected to a router.
[04:52] <sleepy_cat> ok
[04:52] <jken146> raddmasta: alternate definitions of GB
[04:52] <sleepy_cat> thanks
[04:52] <rukubites> Probably a stupid question, but are old debs kept anywhere if I want to install something a little older for various reasons?
[04:52] <bastid_raZor> ipconfig /all sleepy_cat
[04:52] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: That sounds fine.
[04:52] <TheCheeze> Shoshana, windows is going to be your only real option for high-end gaming
[04:52] <Izinucs> rukubites: packages.ubuntu.com
[04:52] <raddmasta> jkenl46: what do you mean?
[04:52] <niadh> Izinucs: Didn't even have to do anything to the grub file
[04:52] <raddmasta> *jken146
[04:53] <Shoshana> TheCheeze : ok . i am not gamer .. just love hard games
[04:53] <Flynsarmy> I've checked the 'sound when message opens conversation window' checkbox, but is it possible that it wont make it so the sound doesnt play if that contacts sound is disabled?
[04:53] <Izinucs> niadh: much better solution
[04:53] <Shoshana> TheCheeze : and my graphic card bad.. 9500GT
[04:53] <niadh> Izinucs: To what? :S
[04:53] <TheCheeze> Shoshana, please stop calling those "hard" games... it makes my eyes burn ;)
[04:53] <raddmasta> oh, I see. GiB
[04:53] <jken146> raddmasta: http://xkcd.com/394/
[04:53] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: Karmic?
[04:53] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: I'm stumped... To be honest. :\
[04:53] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - 9.04 on both, 32bit + 64bit
[04:53] <Izinucs> niadh: doing the persistant pci=nomsi .. unless you still need that..
[04:53] <Shoshana> TheCheeze : well my english bad.. sorry
[04:54] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - it's all good man :P Just wanted to pick your brain while I had the hcance.
[04:54] <Roasted> kinja-sheep - I'll throw the question on forums and see what brews up by tomorrow
[04:54] <Greybeard> Shoshana: you haven't played a hard game until you've played Nethack
[04:54] <Shoshana> there is ubuntu DVD ?
[04:54] <TheCheeze> Shoshana, by most of us old peoples standards, games these days are not challenging at all
[04:54] <raddmasta> jken146: thank you, I didn't realize it was GiB and not GB.
[04:54] <niadh> Izinucs: Will reboot a few times to see, but i doubt it
[04:54] <Izinucs> niadh: :)
[04:55] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: I know this is not the solution -- but meh. "sudo aptitude purge -y avahi-daemon && sudo aptitude install -y avahi-daemon" --> Reboot. Pray!
[04:55] <Shoshana> there is Ubuntu DVD?
[04:55] <kinja-sheep> Roasted: If that does not work, then I do not understand. :)
[04:55] <KitsuneDragon> theres an Ubuntu DVD?
[04:55] <kinja-sheep> Shoshana: Ubuntu DVDs contains all languages -- something you should not need.
[04:56] <TheCheeze> kinja-sheep, he said his english is not very good
[04:56] <goose> what's the terminal command to view all my memory stuff? I'm trying to figure out which /dev/sdblah/ my USB drive is
[04:56] <Shoshana> kinja-shhep thanks , last question . whats the best kind of linux ?
[04:56] <Guest68190> anyone on thats very good with virtualbox?
[04:56] <trampel> goose:  perhaps:  df -h  ?
[04:56] <KitsuneDragon> Guest68190: i know a little whats your problem
[04:56] <gluonman> If I install Windows 7, is it a good idea to use gparted to reduce the Win7 partition for Ubuntu 9.10? I need to place Ubuntu in the first drive.
[04:56] <Shoshana> there is alot .. ubuntu , fedora , openSUSE
[04:56] <raddmasta> Shoshana: http://www.distrowatch.com/
[04:56] <Greybeard> goose: /proc/partitions contains a list of block devices
[04:56] <kinja-sheep> Shoshana: Ask the right person and the person will tell you any *nix is the right choice.
[04:56] <goose> THAT'S it!
[04:56] <goose> trampel++
[04:56] <goose> thanks
[04:57] <trampel> goose: only good thing i've managed all day  ;)
[04:57] <Biovor3> Shoshana: there all the same.. with some minor differances, and different ways of doing things.
[04:57] <TheCheeze> kinja-sheep, any FREE nix is the right choice ;)
[04:57] <krishna> hurd, are you still there ?
[04:57] <nilsson> my keyboard/mouse is exhibiting some wierd behavior when I upgraded to karmic
[04:57] <raddmasta> later guys.
[04:57] <Shoshana> Biovor3 : you using linux ?
[04:57] <Biovor3> Shoshana: I am..  debian ubuntu redhat-el5
[04:57] <KitsuneDragon> TheCheeze: but RHEL askes for money and supossedly good
[04:58] <sleepy_cat> On Windows when i do ipconfig /all it gives me a hardware address, identical to the one fetched by my program so my program is working fine...but when i disconnect to the internet and do ipconfig /all it gives nothing even in the terminal
[04:58] <motoh> 'general error mounting filesystems'
[04:58] <sleepy_cat> i mean in cmd*
[04:58] <TheCheeze> Shoshana, it is going to be safe to assume that everyone in here uses ubuntu linux
[04:58] <Guest68190> KitsuneDragon well i've got it installed and tried installing windows xp, which it does but it just keeps running the setup
[04:58] <Shoshana> i think OpenSUSE looks better than ubuntu right ?
[04:58] <Nixed> Is there a way to force the Kernel is Karmic Koala load Vesa drivers on boot?
[04:58] <nilsson> if I hit a key while moving the mouse, the mouse stops moving, and resumes when I let go of the key
[04:58] <emerson> How do I change all the packets from xfce to kde ...?
[04:58] <rob86> KitsuneDragon: they dont _ask_ for money... its just what ubuntu is to ubuntu+support = fedora / redhat
[04:58] <krishna> hurd, are you still there ?? that command you have broke ..  if i press enter in grub, it says unexecutable format or something like that............... hey... reply please
[04:58] <emerson> I mean everything ..
[04:58] <KitsuneDragon> Guest: is it still pointed at the install file?
[04:59] <Biovor3> Shoshana: its just a theme.. you can put on ubuntu..  I think suse default interface is kde and not gnome..
[04:59] <Izinucs> Guest68190: take the xp cd out of the drive
[04:59] <leerichguy> hi everybody
[04:59] <Shoshana> Biovor3 : ubuntu using kde or gnome ?
[04:59] <KitsuneDragon> rob86: oh yeah fedora comes from redhat /facepalm/
[04:59] <Greybeard> regular Ubuntu uses GNOME
[04:59] <Nixed> Is there a way to force the Kernel is Karmic Koala load Vesa drivers on boot?
[04:59] <rob86> KitsuneDragon: you missed the point
[04:59] <Greybeard> Kubuntu uses KDE
[04:59] <leerichguy> how can i configure my inbuilt modem
[05:00] <goose> second question: when using DD, is it "dd if=/dev/sdc1 of=/path/to/file.iso", or did I get the if/of backwards?
[05:00] <emerson> how can I change de version from xfce to kde ...?
[05:00] <lolstew> when i boot mirc in wine i cant open remotes, any solution for this?
[05:00] <Guest68190> Izinucs i did...it stops the setup and ask for the disk to be inserted again
[05:00] <KitsuneDragon> rob86:....
[05:00] <suley> Please help me recover my boot partition! During boot I get the error "ext3-fs group descriptors corrupted" "no init found. try passing init= bootarg"
[05:00] <kinja-sheep> Shoshana: Ubuntu uses Gnome -- Kubuntu uses KDE -- Xubuntu uses XFCE -- You get the idea.  There also are Lubuntu and other varieties of *buntu.
[05:00] <emerson> ?
[05:00] <krishna> Any gurus here .. echo "910_GL_STACK=1" > vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic && echo "910_GL_STACK=1" > vmlinuz-2.6.28-16-generic   this command made my computer unbootable... any help ?  i upgraded to 9.10 yesterday evening... now i am in 9.04 live cd.. how to fix ???????????
[05:00] <suley> I booted with live CD (9.10 64bit) and tried "fsch -t ext3 /dev/sda1"
[05:01] <Greybeard> suley: sounds bad; you'll probably need to boot a rescue system
[05:01] <Izinucs> Guest68190: then you tell the main vbox window (not the setup window) to force close .. then in settings uncheck "boot from cd"
[05:01] <suley> got "fsck.ext3: no such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda1
[05:01] <suley> "
[05:01] <Shoshana> Kubuntu ? what the hell . Kubuntu look better (Blue)  ubuntu look boring (brown)
[05:01] <kinja-sheep> lolstew: Why are you using mIRC in wine when there are native IRC clients in Ubuntu repository?
[05:01] <Izinucs> Shoshana: so .. make ubuntu blue
[05:01] <lolstew> kinja-sheep: because i can
[05:01] <suley> egreybeard: does that mean reinstall ubuntu?
[05:01] <KitsuneDragon> Izinucs: that makes more sense than what i said
[05:01] <kinja-sheep> Shoshana: It is chocolate brown.  You do not like chocolate? :(
[05:02] <krishna> lolstew: install xchat  ?
[05:02] <lolstew> i'm on irssi right now
[05:02] <TheCheeze> Shoshana, you can change the colors. i have my Ubuntu set to blacks
[05:02] <Shoshana> choclate not healtyh
[05:02] <lolstew> its not the same
[05:02] <Greybeard> suley: possibly, but first try booting a CD, such as the Ubuntu Live CD
[05:02] <KitsuneDragon> lolstew: or xchat gnome front end
[05:02] <lolstew> i want mirc, so i dont have to learn anything
[05:02] <lolstew> lack of time
[05:02] <Shoshana> wow its very big support here ! i love you peppols
[05:02] <gluonman> Shoshana, you don't have to stick to the brown just because you're using gnome. You can change the colours and the themes however you want.
[05:02] <Guest68190> Izinucs ok...will give that a try
[05:02] <kinja-sheep> lolstew: You want xchat then.
[05:02] <rob86> no he wants mirc
[05:02] <suley> greybeard: I did, it does boot to the live CD. But I can not mount /dev/sda1
[05:02] <niadh> Shoshana: gnome-look.org
[05:02] <rob86> thats why he installed it...
[05:02] <rob86> sigh
[05:02] <lolstew> kinja-sheep: id have to learn python
[05:03] <lolstew> to use remotestuff
[05:03] <krishna> lolstew: xchat , pidgin ?
[05:03] <Shoshana> the different between ubuntu and kubuntu is only KDE and GNOME ?  what about the menus ? and what better
[05:03] <Greybeard> suley: can you run "fsck /dev/sda1" from the Live system?
[05:03] <KitsuneDragon> whatever he wants mirc he gets mirc
[05:03] <suley> greybeard: I get "fsck.ext3: no such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sda1"
[05:03] <niadh> Greybeard: Should be able to
[05:03] <kinja-sheep> lolstew: Python is the awesome language! Win! lolstew +1
[05:03] <krishna> Any gurus here .. echo "910_GL_STACK=1" > vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic && echo "910_GL_STACK=1" > vmlinuz-2.6.28-16-generic   this command made my computer unbootable... any help ?  i upgraded to 9.10 yesterday evening... now i am in 9.04 live cd.. how to fix ???????????
[05:03] <Izinucs> Shoshana: you can have both on your computer at the same time if you want and choose which to boot to
[05:03] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[05:03] <suley> greybeard: even though fdisk lists /dev/sda1
[05:03] <niadh> suley: Is the installed system 9.10?
[05:03] <suley> yes
[05:03] <gluonman> Shoshana, you can install both on a single Ubuntu OS and switch between them. Try them both and figure out which one you like. One isn't necessarily better than the other, it's just up to you're personal preference.
[05:04] <lolstew> kinja-sheep: i dont know python
[05:04] <jacquesdupontd> i would like about a problem with virtual sync on ati cards with compiz ?
[05:04] <niadh> suley: You using encryption or an older live cd?
[05:04] <KitsuneDragon> lolstew -1
[05:04] <krishna> hurd gave me that command for getting my new ubuntu its proper speed it had.. but it made my computer unbootable..... any help ?
[05:04] <Greybeard> suley: that's telling you that you're trying to check the wrong block device
[05:04] <Guest68190> Izinucs  no luck
[05:04] <suley> niadh. no, I upgraded from 9.4 to 9.10 and using livecd 9.10
[05:04] <rob86> krishna: this channel is about ubuntu, not about hurd...
[05:04] <are_ee> if hurd was selinux he fucked my distro up too
[05:04] <are_ee> :|
[05:04] <rob86> join #hurd for support
[05:04] <revant> my HD4350 works fine
[05:04] <krishna> rob86: i KNOW
[05:05] <Izinucs> Guest68190: log into #vbox and ask there.
[05:05] <niadh> rob86: I think he meant a user called hurd
[05:05] <Greybeard> I think the hurd mentioned is a person
[05:05] <krishna> rob86: that command made my ubuntu 9.10 unbootable...
[05:05] <rob86> niadh: oh
[05:05] <kinja-sheep> Shoshana: There are "blubuntu-theme" which will make Ubuntu blue. :)
[05:05] <zoe_> Hi, I'm having an annoying sound issue, can anyone help please?
[05:05] <deadowl> Okay, I officially can live with the default Ubuntu installation, though it still has quirks
[05:05] <Guest68190> Izinucs thanks...had no idea all there other channels were there
[05:05] <are_ee> rob86 = hurd = selinux = fucking your ubuntu distro up
[05:05] <niadh> zoe_: Whats the issue?
[05:05] <krishna> rob86: hurd is a person's name who gave ths commadn
[05:06] <are_ee> he's doing it purposely
[05:06] <are_ee> ala troll
[05:06] <jjgalvez> upgraded to karmic now my wireless won't work unless I log in, and its defined in the interface file, has something changed, is interface no longer used?
[05:06] <Shoshana> i can install ubuntu and kubuntu ? i need 2 pshical drives ?
[05:06] <zoe_> niadh: sound is fine until I view a flash video, then it stops working for flash and pidgin. but not amarok
[05:06] <krishna> are_ee:  WHAT ? .. :(
[05:06] <mdgeorge1> hello
[05:06] <Greybeard> Shoshana: Kubuntu is Ubuntu
[05:06] <jjgalvez> Shoshana: Karmic is ubuntu
[05:06] <krishna> are_ee: do you know what that command does ?
[05:06] <suley> greybeard: I tried e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/sda1 as well but same error "no such file or directory
[05:06] <are_ee> krisha: fucks my distro
[05:06] <kinja-sheep> Shoshana: No. You can install both on a same partition -- You can switch between them.  Like switching between different games installed on a same system.
[05:07] <niadh> zoe_: Please go to system->preference->sound
[05:07] <mdgeorge1> I'm looking to set up a videoconference for about 5 people, a mix of windows, mac, and linux users
[05:07] <Greybeard> suley: that's telling you that the device "/dev/sda1" doesn't exist
[05:07] <Chris0134> new karmic is so sweet on my toshiba sat a135-s4467. so many issues resolved over 9.04.. had to brag, i'm lovin it
[05:07] <mdgeorge1> what's the best way to do that?
[05:07] <revant> No uvunruIm now running ubuntu xubuntu and kubuntu.. you need alternate CDs for all
[05:07] <rob86> mdgeorge1: skype
[05:07] <KitsuneDragon> mdgeorge1: Skype!
[05:07] <Shoshana> kinja-sheep : but i need download both or ubuntu come with kubuntu too ?
[05:07] <suley> greybeard yes but it does :-) fdisk -l does show it
[05:07] <rob86> Shoshana: kubuntu is a flavor of ubuntu
[05:07] <J792> Is Fedora the best?
[05:07] <krishna> are_ee: ??
[05:07] <are_ee> last time i trust #ubuntu users... i thought linux people were here to help you
[05:07] <zoe_> niadh: what then?
[05:07] <mdgeorge1> rob86, KitsuneDragon: ok ))
[05:07] <rob86> Shoshana: download the kubuntu iso from www.ubuntu.com
[05:07] <h0ller> Just curious if anyone has found a solution to the wireless issues that seem to have come about with a fresh install of 9.10.  After looking at the forums, I can see that lots of others have been having issues with Atheros and Broadcom chipsets.  I've got the AR5212.  Have tried the suggestion of commenting out the line that reads "blacklist ath5k" in my /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-ath_pci.conf file.  Still cannot get ath0 to be recogn
[05:07] <niadh> Shoshana: Seperate operating systems, but you can install kubuntu from ubuntu
[05:07] <KitsuneDragon> J792: thats your opinion
[05:07] <kinja-sheep> Shoshana: Ubuntu come with GNOME by default. When you get it up and running, you can install KDE packages.
[05:08] <krishna> are_ee: did hurd broke your ubuntu tooo ??? :(
[05:08] <niadh> zoe_: Are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:08] <Greybeard> suley: that is odd
[05:08] <MrSchmo> anyone know how to fix the flash issue in firefox. i cant seem to interact with the menu on youtube
[05:08] <are_ee> krishna, yeah.
[05:08] <zoe_> niadh: kubuntu
[05:08] <seidos> if orca is configured with default settings, will ubuntu talk a lot?
[05:08] <rob86> niadh: kubuntu and ubuntu arent separate os's, please do not confuse Shoshana
[05:08] <niadh> zoe_: Ah, then i might not be able to help, I
[05:08] <mdgeorge1> I'll need to buy a webcam I guess, any recommendations for which one will be least painful to get working on ubuntu?
[05:08] <jjgalvez> h0ller: I have mine mostly wokring, I had to add ath5k to ect/modules file
[05:08] <krishna> are_ee: what happened to your ubuntu now ?
[05:08] <niadh> zoe_: Ah, then i might not be able to help, I'm not familar with kubuntu
[05:08] <are_ee> Error 13
[05:08] <zoe_> niadh: you've already been more helpful than anyone in the other channel, do you have any suggestions?
[05:08] <suley> greybeard: disk utility in Ubuntu does show the disk as clean (reported by the hard disk's SMART system) so it is a curruption that  must have happened during the update
[05:08] <niadh> mdgeorge: Phillips worked fine for me
[05:08] <jjgalvez> h0ller: and I had to remove ath5k from the blacklist
[05:09] <J792> why is Fedora better than Ubuntu if it's not?
[05:09] <Chris0134> fix flash issue by making sure ur up to date before adding plugin... worked for me anywayz
[05:09] <mdgeorge1> niadh: thanks
[05:09] <revant> Fedora presto
[05:09] <niadh> zoe_: Is there a sound preferences dialog somewhere in kubuntu?
[05:09] <jjgalvez> J792: who said it was better?
[05:09] <krishna> are_ee: you mean "unexecutable format" or similar texts ?
[05:09] <J792> Mark Shuttleworth
[05:09] <KitsuneDragon> J792: fedora is more bleeding edge while Ubuntu: seems to have better support
[05:09] <zoe_> niadh: yes, I'm looking at it... I don't see anything about flash, though
[05:09] <TD-Linux> is it just me or is keyserver.ubuntu.com extremely unreliable?
[05:09] <gbear142751> is there a torrent client that comes packaged with ubuntu server?
[05:09] <agus> anyone can show me where I get deb file after installing using apt-get install ?
[05:09] <revant> Fedora is better for nothing except presto
[05:09] <TheCheeze> J792, i like fedora for web servers, but ubuntu i prefer for every-day use
[05:09] <h0ller> jjgalvez: Thank you, I'll look into adding ath5k to /etc/modules.  Did you have to do anything to your madwifi setup?
[05:09] <Shoshana> kinja-sheep : KDE packages + ubuntu its like kubuntu ?
[05:09] <motoh> gbear142751: transmission
[05:09] <Greybeard> suley: yeah, it doesn't look good
[05:10] <kinja-sheep> Shoshana: Yes.
[05:10] <gbear142751> motoh: says not installed by default
[05:10] <Blue1> gbear142751: transmission bit torrent client
[05:10] <TD-Linux> it seems every time I need to install a PPA key, the keyserver is down >:(
[05:10] <niadh> zoe_: Is there a way of changing what's known as a sound server? Might be called that, might be called something else, might also have arts or pulseaudio as visible options?
[05:10] <jjgalvez> h0ller: nope atheros is in the kernel now, I did install the kernel extras but that it
[05:10] <motoh> gbear, sorry, mine was installed by default, not sure otherwise.
[05:10] <Blue1> gbear142751: Applications/Internet
[05:10] <suley> greybeard: can I reinstall ubuntu without formatting the disks?
[05:10] <gbear142751> Blue1: motoh:  This is server... not desktop
[05:10] <suley> using existing partitions
[05:10] <jjgalvez> h0ller: once I added it to the modules list and rebooted it started to work
[05:11] <motoh> gbear - I see, no experience with the server distribution, sorry.
[05:11] <Blue1> gbear142751: I don't know - I don't use bit torrent --
[05:11] <Greybeard> suley: if you install Ubuntu from scratch, you should reformat
[05:11] <h0ller> jjgalvez: You said that it's mostly working.  Did that not completely solve the issue?
[05:11] <zoe_> niadh: all I see is my sound card, and pulseaudio. Sound card is the default... I've looked into the padevchooser config, and see that pulse only has a dummy output
[05:11] <suley> ok
[05:11] <Shoshana> whats the differnet between kubuntu and kubuntu alternate ?
[05:11] <gbear142751> anyone know if there is a torrent client installed with server?
[05:11] <Greybeard> suley: if you have things you need to save, make sure you have them backed up
[05:11] <niadh> zoe_: Try setting pulseaudio as the default for everything
[05:11] <KitsuneDragon> If i install ubuntu on a partition created with the installer and then I decicide to get rid of Ubuntu can I fuse my 3 partitions back into two?
[05:11] <krishna> are_ee: is it possible to extract vmlinuz (hurd's command had this name only) . from iso of ubuntu 9.10 and place it into /boot from this live cd.. then will it solve problem ?????
[05:12] <goose> is there a terminal command to format a disk?
[05:12] <agus> help me how to get deb file after installing using apt-get install ?
[05:12] <kinja-sheep> !alternate | Shoshana
[05:12] <TheCheeze> goose - rm -rf
[05:12] <goose> agus: you want to install a .deb file?
[05:12] <prodigy_> hi
[05:12] <jjgalvez> h0ller: I used to have my wireless on when the comupter started, not managed by network manager (the shared printer is on my computer) and thats not working at the moment, I have to log in to get wireless on, still trying to get help with that one
[05:12] <obiwan_> hey does anybody use bittorrent? i did sudo apt-get install bittorrent, but there's no man bittorrent nor 'which bittorrent' response, so i thought it's not installed, but i checked in aptitude and dpkg and it is, so what's up?
[05:12] <goose> TheCheeze: does that *format*? I thought that just deleted all the files
[05:12] <suley> greybeard: thanks. Luckily my home directory was on a different raid disk but I will lose all my /etc/ folder config stuff
[05:12] <Blue1> agus: dpkg -i <nameofdebfile>
[05:12] <motoh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/307238/ Does anyone speak udev?  I just need to identify what this device is and I'm home free.
[05:12] <Shoshana> !minimal
[05:12] <Blue1> opss sudo
[05:12] <Greybeard> suley: yeah, you might lose it; you can never have too many backups
[05:12] <Guest48400> Hi, I have a really basic question. Can somebody tell me how to get more detailed information about my laptop's hardware? I'm trying to figure out the exact name of my on-board graphics card.
[05:12] <gbear142751> obiwan_: what are you trying to do?
[05:13] <TheCheeze> goose, you want raw partition too then?
[05:13] <kinja-sheep> Shoshana: Alternate CD have the option of LVM (to treat multiple physical drives as a single gigantic partition or others) and cryptsetup (for full-system encryption).
[05:13] <TD-Linux> obiwan_, 'bittorrent' is a package
[05:13] <Shoshana> ok thanks to all !
[05:13] <TD-Linux> if it's installed the command will do nothing
[05:13] <goose> TheCheeze: I want to format my USB thumb drive to fat32 so I can do a dd iso on it
[05:13] <Blue1> Guest48400: lspci | grep VGA
[05:13] <agus> after I install using apt-get, I want to save deb file to my drive
[05:13] <Shoshana> i just installed wubi and the process done
[05:13] <kinja-sheep> Shoshana: Ubuntu can be blue. I changed my appearance to show you.
[05:13] <zoe_> niadh: That managed to bring my pidgin sound back. Still nothing from flash
[05:13] <TD-Linux> keyserver traceroute dies somewhere in canonical :(
[05:13] <krishna> @ all "910_GL_STACK=1" only these words are in  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14- generic................ how do i restore my old vmlinuz ????????????
[05:13] <obiwan_> thanks gbear142751 and TD-Linux , i'm trying to isntall bittorrent to download files, i got the .torrent
[05:13] <TheCheeze> goose, use gparted for that then. that's not formating it's repartitioning
[05:13] <niadh> zoe_: Try restarting your web browser
[05:14] <Shoshana> i just installed wubi and the process done , how i join to mIRC with ubuntu its the same soft or i need something special ?
[05:14] <goose> TheCheeze: tried it, gparted locks up on startup
[05:14] <jjgalvez> can anyone help me get my wireless to be on by default? I want it on when the computer starts, before I log in, it used to work, now its stopped since I upgraded to karmic
[05:14] <Blue1> Shoshana: you'd need to install wine to run mirc
[05:14] <gbear142751> obiwan_: are you a gui person or cli?
[05:14] <h0ller> jjgalvez: So in /etc/modules, do you simply add a line for "ath5k" or is there other syntax involved?
[05:14] <zoe_> niadh: done, no change
[05:14] <TheCheeze> goose- did you sudo it?
[05:14] <are_ee> Can anyone help me out?
[05:14] <rob86> Shoshana: you dont need something special to join the mirc channel
[05:14] <kinja-sheep> Shoshana: Look for XChat under Application --> Internet
[05:14] <niadh> zoe_: You running 32 or 64 bit?
[05:14] <obiwan_> cli gbear142751 hehe
[05:14] <zoe_> niadh: 64
[05:14] <are_ee> A user of this channel corruped my vmlinuz
[05:14] <kinja-sheep> Shoshana: BLUE GNOME UBUNTU --> http://imagebin.ca/img/d7Y0L-dN.png
[05:14] <jjgalvez> h0ller: yes just add it to the end of the list
[05:14] <Shoshana> so i need wine ? or just another soft ( replacment mirc for linux)
[05:15] <are_ee> and now i can't boot my ubuntu
[05:15] <krishna>  @ all "910_GL_STACK=1" only these words are in  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14- generic................ how do i restore my old vmlinuz ????????????
[05:15] <niadh> zoe_: 64 bit flash can be problematic
[05:15] <goose> TheCheeze: of course. it just wouldn't start. lots of errors in terminal.
[05:15] <foxbuntu> anyone have insight into why I would get "Authentication Failure" on clean boot of Ubuntu Live disk and cannot login with the ubuntu username even at the console?
[05:15] <oscar_> hi can anyone tell me how to uninstall ubuntu AND grub?
[05:15] <Jordan_U> are_ee, Can you be more specific about what happened / what problem you are now having?
[05:15] <h0ller> jjgalvez: Great!  Thanks for the help.  I'll go ahead and add it and then reboot... will see what happens.  Hope it works.  Thanks for the help!
[05:15] <TheCheeze> goose- pastebin the errors? that's kinda odd
[05:15] <krishna> a user from this channel called "hurd" corrupted my vmlinuz too.. just like he did are_ee 's vmlinuz.. anyone gonna help us or not ?
[05:15] <Shoshana> last question before i reset and cheack ubuntu , i need drivers ?
[05:15] <TheCheeze> goose, i would prolly reinstall gparted
[05:15] <gomzi> I am having some screen resolution issues with a fresh install of 9.10. Could anybody kindly help??
[05:15] <zoe_> niadh: yes... have they released the 64 bit client yet?
[05:15] <rob86> are_ee: have you tried fixing the mbr?
[05:16] <Blue1> Shoshana: you'd need wine if you wanted to run mirc -- but if you just want irc clent - xchat is good
[05:16] <gbear142751> obiwan_: I don't know how to inspect the contents of the "bittorrent' ubuntu meta package but rtorrent is an efficient cli client I know my roomate uses and loves
[05:16] <Shoshana> i need drivers for ubuntu ?
[05:16] <niadh> zoe_: Nope, tis still pre-release
[05:16] <jjgalvez> Shoshana: I use chatzilla
[05:16] <Reticenti> i just installed 9.10 on my gateway laptop, and ubuntu is freezing occasionally
[05:16] <gbear142751> I'm a guoi person but can vouch for rtorrent based on other opinions and his usage
[05:16] <zoe_> niadh: I was running that until yesterday, I'll put it back in and see how it works
[05:16] <Blue1> Shoshana: for what device?
[05:16] <kinja-sheep> Shoshana: Drivers are for Windows -- You don't need anything. :)
[05:16] <jjgalvez> Shoshana: tat depends whats not working?
[05:16] <krishna> gomzi:  even i had.. but i update manager and i said some partial upgrade.. and i did it and got my usual resolutio.... its no pain if you try once
[05:17] <bmunat> is there some extra step after upgrading the kernel to actually get the kernel, abi, initrd, etc. installed into boot? apt-get says "Setting up linux-server (<IP_ADDRESS>.27) ...", but then the kernel is not there
[05:17] <Shoshana> i mean drivers for interent , graphic card or something
[05:17] <niadh> zoe_: Have just gone to 64 bit myself, am just putting the beta in place now
[05:17] <obiwan_> gbear142751: my friend told me to install the bittorrent one, if he was here i'd ask but it's sleeping now, just wondered how to launch the bittorrent package, but thanks anyway hehe
[05:17] <Blue1> Shoshana: naw that should all be installed during the installation
[05:17] <zoe_> niadh: I had no complaints
[05:17] <jjgalvez> Shoshana: most likely not, everything usually just works
[05:17] <goose> TheCheeze: I had to unmount my 1 TiB HDD before firing up gparted apparently :S it's working now, running the DD now. thanks <3
[05:17] <Shoshana> Blue1 : i using wubi you know wubi ?
[05:17] <Shoshana> its finish
[05:17] <Blue1> Shoshana: I don't
[05:17] <gbear142751> obiwan_: I was a little suprised there wasn't a man page either
[05:18] <TheCheeze> goose, odd, but glad it is working for you :)
[05:18] <goose> agus: don't PM me with questions
[05:18] <krishna> is it possible to download the vmlinuz file alone and replace my corrupted vmlinuz ????? anyone help//
[05:18] <gbear142751> obiwan_: good luck if you get it and I'm still lurking I'd be curious to know what you figure out
[05:18] <Shoshana> bye all , i check now ubuntu and thanks to all
[05:18] <niadh> zoe_: Where did you put the so file?
[05:18] <Jordan_U> krishna, You can boot from a LiveCD and re-install the kernel package
[05:18] <zoe_> ummm..... shoot
[05:18] <Greybeard> krishna: you can download the deb package and extract it
[05:18] <bmunat> krishna: sounds like we're in a similar boat... apt-get install linux-server does *not* install the files
[05:18] <obiwan_> gbear142751: sure hehe see you later :)
[05:18] <zoe_> niadh: I don't actually remember anymore
[05:19] <gomzi> krishna: update manager says uptodate
[05:19] <Johntastic> My monitor (crt) has shadows to the right of anything displayed. I've changed resolutions and refresh rates, and nothing has helped so far. Any suggestions?
[05:19] <bmunat> Greybeard: how do you extract the .debs? are they gzipped?
[05:19] <stealth-> how can I find out what service is operating on a port (i'm root of the machine)?
[05:19] <Greybeard> bmunat: I can't remember the type of archive debs are
[05:20] <Identity4> How can I modify the swap size in 9.04?
[05:20] <krishna> Jordan_U: i am in 9.04 live cd..... but the computer has 9.10 in it ... how to get 9.10 's vmlinuz ?? is it inside the iso of 9.10 ????????
[05:20] <Balsaq> in xchat...how can it make it so that it "pings me "...or make some kind of noise, when someone speaks too me?
[05:20] <TheCheeze> bmunat, debs are kinda like exe installers, but for debian-based distros
[05:20] <krishna> Identity4: gparted
[05:20] <gomzi> krishna: do i have to add any repositories
[05:20] <krishna> gomzi: sorry. no idea.. some gurus from here will help you.. good luck
[05:20] <TheCheeze> bmunat, but i think that archive manager can open them
[05:20] <h00k> Identity4: you're going to have to boot from a LiveCD/USB and resize using gparted
[05:20] <gbear142751> obiwan_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/bittorrent http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/all/bittorrent/filelist
[05:21] <DJJeff> I/O error on sr0 (during ubuntu 9.10 install) is this a cd rom error?
[05:21] <Shoshana> someone know about wubi ?
[05:21] <gbear142751> obiwan_: /usr/share/doc/bittorrent/FAQ.html
[05:21] <goose> does ubottu have some ! command for yelling at people to not PM people with their questions?
[05:21] <Billiard> DJJeff: yea
[05:21] <Jordan_U> krishna, Calm down, first run "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" to mount your 9.10 partition
[05:21] <Identity4> thnx h00k and krishna
[05:21] <eykosioux> did you guys read the article on Skype becoming open source??
[05:21] <bmunat> TheCheze: yeah, i understand their purpose; I'm trying to figure out why "apt-get install linux-sever" says it's complete, but the 2.6.31 kernel files are not put into /boot
[05:21] <h00k> !md5 | DJJeff
[05:21] <rob86> goose: pming people is perfectly fine, or at least im ok with it
[05:21] <gomzi> i am not able to set resolution above 1024*768. can someone help??
[05:21] <Shoshana> someone know about wubi ?
[05:22] <DJJeff> Ubuntu 9.10 .iso (WUBI used on windows xp crashes)
[05:22] <osms> i just now upgraded and now there is a big blank rectangle where my quick launch firefox icon used to be. what's going on?
[05:22] <krishna> Jordan_U: the 9.10 is already mounted using nautilus
[05:22] <krishna> Jordan_U: and i can see the corrupted vmlinuz file
[05:22] <are_ee> Where are the mods in the room?
[05:22] <Jordan_U> krishna, What is the mount point?
[05:22] <h00k> osms: that is probably for firefox3.0, Karmic has firefox3.5 installed
[05:22] <h00k> osms: you can remove that launcher and re-drag it from the menu if you'd like
[05:23] <ryty_> purely from a stability standpoint, it is better to fresh-install 9.10, or upgrade from 9.04?
[05:23] <ryty_> is it*
[05:23] <DamegedSpy> Where can I find advertisment to promote Linux and Ubuntu?
[05:23] <rob86> ryty_: most people say upgrading is unstable
[05:23] <motoh> ryty: best to stick with 9.04 from a stability standpoint.
[05:23] <krishna> Jordan_U: df -h showed this : /dev/sda3              15G   12G  2.3G  83% /media/disk
[05:23] <osms> how do i upgrade to the newest firefox
[05:23] <gomzi> I was able to set 1280*1024 in 9.04 but not 9.10. whats might be the issue?
[05:23] <DJJeff> Ubuntu 9.10 is still pretty buggy.
[05:23] <TheCheeze> bmunat, did you do a grub update? not sure beyong that, sorry
[05:23] <Blue1> gomzi: driver?
[05:23] <h00k> ryty_: upgrading is a well documented process
[05:23] <h00k> !upgrade
[05:24] <nomopofomo> anyone have an idea as to why mysql isn't asking me for passwords and such when i install mysql-server?
[05:24] <ryty_> okay, I'll fresh install. I don't have that many packages installed anyways, I have a list stored on /home, and I just don't format it
[05:24] <h00k> osms: if you have Karmic installed, you have the latest firefox
[05:24] <Jordan_U> krishna, Ok, then run "sudo mount -o bind /dev/ /media/disk/dev/ && sudo mount -o bind /proc/ /media/disk/proc/ && sudo chroot /media/disk"
[05:24] <oscar_> hi can anyone tell me how to uninstall ubuntu AND grub completely??
[05:24] <gomzi> Blue1: xserver-xorg-video-intel
[05:24] <TheCheeze> h00k, not true
[05:24] <almoxarife> osms: when you open application >internet  do you see firefox?
[05:24] <TheCheeze> h00k, karmic comes with 3.5.3, the newest is 3.5.4
[05:24] <bmunat> TheCheeze: I updated 9.04-9.10 and the kernel was unbootable (couldn't mount root partition), so I've been trying to reinstall 2.6.31.... thanks fer tryin
[05:24] <zoe_> nia
[05:24] <gomzi> Blue1: do i need anything else? where do i get them?
[05:24] <rob86> oscar_: are you running ubuntu at the moment?
[05:24] <zoe_> niadh:  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[05:24] <osms> almoxarife: yes
[05:25] <Blue1> gomzi: what type of video card do you have?  hint: lspci | grep VGA
[05:25] <Shoshana> Kubuntu = Modern | Ubuntu = Classic ! TRUE ?
[05:25] <DamegedSpy> Anyways, before buying a CD to make a Ubuntu Distro CD I want to know how to know if my DVD reader can write? O.o ps I am running Win XP.
[05:25] <krishna> Jordan_U: that command did no output in terminal..  but it turned $ into #
[05:25] <oscar_> yes
[05:25] <h00k> TheCheeze: referring to bleeding-edge, not necessarily, but as far as the Ubuntu repositories, yes
[05:25] <krishna> Jordan_U: what now ?
[05:25] <oscar_> rob86: yes I am
[05:25] <Jordan_U> krishna, That should bring you to a shell where you can run commands from your 9.10 system, and re-install linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic
[05:25] <krishna> !pm > are_ee
[05:25] <jlewis> ubuntu of course
[05:25] <gomzi> Blue1: intel 865gbf motherboard
[05:25] <fokuslee302> Q: trying to install 9.10 on nvidia sata raid, there is no how to yet
[05:25] <Shoshana> Kubuntu = Modern | Ubuntu = Classic ! TRUE ?
[05:25] <fr3d> id like to play a swf from vlc... what do i need to install besides gstreamer
[05:25] <jlewis> oops i'm a little late
[05:26] <krishna> are_ee, see they told not to get help in pm because some can break your computer.. and it happened to us :(
[05:26] <Moon_Doggy> can someone tell me a good vnc client that has a easy setup gui
[05:26] <default> shoshana ---- not it's not true
[05:26] <Jordan_U> krishna, To re-install run "sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.31-14-generic"
[05:26] <fokuslee302> how do i do it for grub2
[05:26] <h00k> Shoshana: this isn't the place to be discussing that
[05:26] <Blue1> gomzi: have you checked the intel site to see if there is a linux driver for your video card?
[05:26] <Shoshana> default: but ubuntu look classic
[05:26] <Greybeard> fr3d: vlc doesn't use gstreamer AFAIK
[05:26] <Shoshana> h00k : ok im sorry
[05:26] <almoxarife> osms: and if you run firefox from there can you tell what version it is?
[05:26] <gomzi> Blue1: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[05:26] <Jordan_U> fokuslee302, Try asking in #grub
[05:26] <threethirty> hello all im writting a blog post and need some info 1. does the Broadcom BCM4312 M 802.11G WLAN chip work out of the box in karmic and does anyone have a Howto for installing a persistant Karmic on a thumbdrive from within Windows that non techy high school kids could follow?
[05:26] <default> to make gnome loook modern - check out gnome-look.org -- -my fav themes - Aurora smooth, Leopardish, nodoka, etc
[05:26] <fr3d> Greybeard ohhh okay....
[05:27] <fr3d> hrmmm
[05:27] <Greybeard> fr3d: vlc is fairly standalone I think
[05:27] <h00k> threethirty: perhaps look at unetbootin as far as thumbdrive install
[05:27] <osms> almoxarife: it says i have the latest version
[05:27] <fr3d> whats a good program to convert swf files to mp3?
[05:28] <threethirty> h00k: does that work in windows
[05:28] <almoxarife> osms: then right click on that same icon and choose 'place on panel'
[05:28] <osms> almoxarife: my quicklaunch actually launches the command firefox -P -no-remote
[05:28] <Greybeard> fr3d: mencoder can probably do it
[05:28] <threethirty> h00k: and how would it be done persistantly
[05:28] <h00k> osms: when you upgraded, that shortcut was for firefox 3.0 which was replaced with 3.5, just simply drag the shortcut from the internet menu to your gnome-panel again
[05:28] <Shoshana> whats will be better , using office 2007 with wine or openoffice
[05:28] <Blue1> gomzi: I am seeing a lot of issues with that graphics card...
[05:28] <ryty_> Shoshana, in what context?
[05:28] <krishna> Jordan_U: it says install karmic cd .
[05:28] <h00k> threethirty: yes, unetbootin works in windows, I'm not sure about persistent installs, check google
[05:28] <eatThisAndDie> Shoshana define "better"
[05:29] <Blue1> gomzi: check this out:  http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=ubuntu+Intel+Corporation+82865G&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-832
[05:29] <krishna> Jordan_U: but i dont have karmic cd. i  upgraded from alternate.iso
[05:29] <krishna> Jordan_U: what shall i do now ?
[05:29] <osms> h00k: but its a shortcut to "firefox -P -no-remote", not any particular version
[05:29] <fr3d> in order for it to work, id need to be able to play swf files tho right? what program would you use to verify that it's a good swf? mplayer?
[05:29] <Shoshana> eatThisAndDie : i mean about perofmance , openoffice is linux version and office2007 is windows version that you need wine (3rd software) you know what i mean ?
[05:30] <Jordan_U> krishna, In another terminal run "gksudo gedit /media/disk/etc/apt/sources.lst" and comment out the entries for the cdrom
[05:30] <ryty_> Shoshana, you're going to get better performance out of a linux native app
[05:30] <ryty_> like openoffice
[05:30] <h00k> osms: does it launch anything? perhaps try changing it to "firefox-3.5 -P -no-remote"
[05:30] <krishna> Jordan_U: you mean hash-ing it ?
[05:30] <Blue1> Shoshana: you don't need wine to run openoffice
[05:30] <fr3d> Greybeard i guess ill just try mplayer and mencoder... thanks man!
[05:30] <verycorrupt> could someone tell me how to extract a particular file from my 78GB backup.tar.gz plz, i just had a power cut and one of my config files is corrupt and need to retrieve it quickly
[05:30] <Jordan_U> krishna, Yes
[05:30] <Shoshana> Blue1 : i mean office 2007
[05:31] <Greybeard> fr3d: yeah, mencoder can convert almost anything, but has a weird command line syntax
[05:31] <ryty_> verycorrupt, archive mounter works well, if it's available
[05:31] <verycorrupt> it won't mount
[05:31] <almoxarife> osms: do you want to run firefox to run from the panel?
[05:31] <verycorrupt> it's a 78GB file
[05:31] <Blue1> Shoshana: i don't know if wine can handle that but I can find out hang a sec
[05:31] <h00k> Shoshana: openoffice should be able to open .docx, .xlsx, etc, and should work quite nicely natively
[05:31] <hao> eykosioux: where did you find that article?
[05:31] <h00k> Shoshana: also check out wine's appdb to see program compatability.
[05:31] <h00k> !appdb | Shoshana
[05:32] <fr3d> Greybeard okay cool!
[05:32] <Xed> Unfortunately some docx
[05:32] <Xed> that work just fine on MSO don't work in OOo
[05:32] <Blue1> Shoshana: yeah looks like wine will handle office 2007:  http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4992
[05:32] <osms> h00k, almoxarife thanks, i just removed it from the panel, replaced it with the one from the applications menu, then changed it to firefox -P -no-remote
[05:32] <Shoshana> h00k : any software with wine will be slowly than software that "designed" for linux  EXAMPLE : mirc+wine or just xchat  , you know what i mean bro ?
[05:32] <eatThisAndDie> Shoshana, i think the problem is a little bit more than that. ie: are you sure about the compatibility, do you have the licenses for all the machines that you want to run MSoffice on, what format do you want to save your files in (consideration for compatibility as well)
[05:32] <eykosioux> hao: through reddit... http://ofaurax.free.fr/blog/index.php5/2009-10-31-00h31-0100.xml
[05:33] <Blue1> Shoshana: not true ff for windows is faster in linux then natively
[05:33] <eykosioux> hao: but i'm guessing it's just the client side...
[05:33] <Shoshana> Blue1 : whats this ff ?
[05:33] <Greybeard> fr3d: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=852027
[05:33] <h00k> Shoshana: when moving to linux from windows, know that there are plenty of alternatives to windows applications, a lot of times wine can't handle eveything a program is designed to do
[05:33] <Greybeard> fr3d: ffmpeg may be a better choice than mencoder
[05:33] <BELLINXFELON> how can i run more than one program at a time through terminal?
[05:33] <Blue1> Shoshana: firefox (browser)
[05:34] <h00k> Shoshana: somehting like mirc will run fine but something like iTunes will not
[05:34] <Greybeard> BELLINXFELON: screen
[05:34] <osubuck> itunes sucks
[05:34] <h00k> Shoshana: generally linux native apps will be faster than their counterpart in WNIE
[05:34] <h00k> *WINE
[05:34] <Shoshana> i dont have ipod or smoehintg but thanks
[05:34] <BELLINXFELON> Greybeard : screen?
[05:34] <ryty_> verycorrupt, tar is the tool you want, maybe with "-T"
[05:34] <Greybeard> h00k: yeah, it really depends
[05:34] <h00k> Shoshana: I ope that answers your question
[05:34] <krishna> Shoshana: and better performance
[05:34] <Greybeard> BELLINXFELON: yeah, run the command "screen"
[05:34] <BELLINXFELON> Greybeard : what does that do
[05:35] <krishna> Shoshana: when there is a native linux app, why go to win app ?
[05:35] <krishna> Jordan_U: thanks. that is downloading from internet
[05:35] <Greybeard> BELLINXFELON: screen is a window manager for text terminals that lets you run any number of "windows"
[05:35] <krishna> will the op plz ban ip of hurd so that he breaks no other ubuntus ?
[05:35] <BELLINXFELON> so i would put sudo screen -x where x is the program?
[05:35] <Shoshana> i want ICQ in linux , there is icq for linux or i just need wine ? (replamcent for icq but with hebrew language will be nice)
[05:35] <sancas> i am desconfigure the type of letter for ubuntu 9.10
[05:35] <eatThisAndDie> Bellin: just run screen
[05:35] <fr3d> okay, thanks Greybeard! i'll give that one a try then.
[05:35] <cdw32> would anyone know how to increase internet video quality
[05:35] <Jordan_U> BELLINXFELON, What are you trying to do specifically?
[05:36] <palomer> hello
[05:36] <palomer> my screen resolution is stuck at 800x600
[05:36] <h00k> cdw32: are you taking flash?  good luck...
[05:36] <sancas> and now like return at previous letter
[05:36] <palomer> this kind of sucks
[05:36] <krishna> are_ee: are you still there ?
[05:36] <sancas> who can i return??
[05:36] <BELLINXFELON> Jordan_U : I just want to be able to run more than one program through terminal
[05:36] <TheCheeze> Shoshana, pidgin and empathy are both messenger systems that run icq, aim, msn, yahoo, etc
[05:36] <palomer> how do I pump it up
[05:36] <Greybeard> fr3d: no problem; read the forum thread as people there seem to have figured it out
[05:36] <Shoshana> TheCheeze : the question is the languages
[05:36] <krishna> are_ee: try following Jordan_U 's steps to get your vmlinuz working
[05:36] <skyl> $hcitool scan says "no such device"
[05:36] <Johntastic> The left edge of my screen (and the right sides of windows, letters, scrollbars, etc.) has about 8 vertical shadows, that look like you copied my screen, lightened the image, moved it to the right a few pixels, and layered it on top of the screen. Can someone help me fix this?
[05:36] <h00k> palomer: for easier readability and because of high traffic, try to keep your question on one line
[05:36] <Jordan_U> Shoshana, I think empathy supports icq, and it should support hebrew
[05:36] <Guest35570> i know this isn't the right room for this.....but anyone good with virtualbox in here? for ubuntu 9.04
[05:36] <cdw32> hook; im not sure i just know youtube and hulu do not work very well on here as well as my videos for class
[05:36] <Blue1> palomer: install a video driver for the card?
[05:36] <Shoshana> wait i write it
[05:37] <palomer> Blue1, how do I find out what video driver it is? I'm using onboard
[05:37] <Johntastic> I have an nvidia 9600 GT and a crt monitor
[05:37] <Shoshana> i need to check pidgin and empathy ?
[05:37] <krishna> !vbox > Guest35570
[05:37] <gomzi> Blue1: thanks for the pointer. will look further.
[05:37] <Blue1> palomer: lspci | grep VGA
[05:37] <Blue1> gomzi: you are welcome
[05:37] <ret> uh
[05:37] <ret> I have an error when trying to install awesome3
[05:37] <ret> Package requirements (xcb >= 1.4) were not met:
[05:37] <cygnus_> hi, how can i install ubuntu 9.10 from booting from a usb - but i will install it to a partition
[05:37] <h00k> cdw32: use 'h00k' or h0+tab {use tab complete} to hilight me properly.  As far as flash quality, what plugin are you using?
[05:37] <FireCrotch> Guest35570: Lots of us are familiar with virtualbox. What kind of problem are you having?
[05:37] <ret> Requested 'xcb >= 1.4' but version of XCB is 1.1
[05:37] <ret> Anyone know what to install?
[05:37] <cygnus_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick does not create the usb-creator.exe on the 9.10 iso and also i think it's how to install it TO a usb stick
[05:38] <Jordan_U> krishna, are_ee: I thought you were the same person, how did you both end up with a corrupt kernel image?
[05:38] <palomer> blue1: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M890CE/K8N890CE [Chrome 9] (rev 11)
[05:38] <palomer> now what?
[05:38] <osubuck> anyone know how to add the wine repository for 9.10?
[05:38] <Guest35570> ubottu thanks
[05:38] <gomzi> palomer: same with me i'm stuck at 1024*768
[05:38] <cdw32> hOOk i am not sure
[05:38] <BELLINXFELON> what is screen exactly
[05:38] <krishna> Jordan_U: a person named HURD gave a echo command that broke both of our vmlinuz
[05:38] <ret> Anyone?
[05:38] <Shoshana> thanks for all and the support wow you guys are rocks !
[05:38] <Johntastic> I am on Karmic. It was like this in 9.04 too, but not in Windows (XP, Vista, or 7)
[05:38] <Blue1> palomer: do you have any propriety drivers installed for that or the default?
[05:38] <crdlb> ret: what version of ubuntu?
[05:38] <Greybeard> krishna: what was the command?
[05:38] <skyl> BELLINXFELON http://sunsite.ualberta.ca/Documentation/Gnu/screen-3.9.4/html_chapter/screen_toc.html
[05:38] <cdw32> hOOk i just started using linux a few weeks ago
[05:38] <osubuck> anyone know how to add the wine repository for 9.10?
[05:39] <ret> I'm honestly running backtrack4; but it uses the ubuntu core and ubuntu packages
[05:39] <palomer> Blue1, no, i just installed ubuntu
[05:39] <Guest35570> FireCrotch i've installed it without any problems...but when i go to install xp it just keeps doing the setup..if i take the disk out it comes up with a error message and ask for it to be put back
[05:39] <h00k> cdw32: its h-zero-zero, sorry for the confusion.are you familiar with Ubuntu Software Center?
[05:39] <skyl> osubuck not the same as any previous distro?
[05:39] <Blue1> palomer: private message ok?
[05:39] <palomer> Blue1, ok!
[05:39] <osubuck> there are instructions on their site for 9.04 and 8.10 but not 9.10
[05:39] <Jordan_U> krishna, Was it malicious or just a mistake?
[05:39] <cdw32> h00k: not yet
[05:39] <ret> Ubuntu 9.04, crdlb. But I'm running BT4
[05:39] <skyl> osubuck should be about the same?
[05:40] <h00k> cdw32: Click on Applications -> Ubuntu Software Center, let me know when you're thre
[05:40] <krishna> Jordan_U: Greybeard echo "910_GL_STACK=1" > vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic && echo "910_GL_STACK=1" > vmlinuz-2.6.28-16-generic   this command
[05:40] <KitsuneDr> i didnt quit
[05:40] <MaxJizzy> hello
[05:40] <MaxJizzy> anyone can help me with installation PM me please
[05:40] <krishna> Jordan_U: was that a "unforgivable" command ?
[05:40] <Greybeard> krishna: that's a very odd command
[05:40] <skyl> anyone tethered a BBstorm2 to and eee :/
[05:40] <Jordan_U> krishna, Well it prevented you from booting :)
[05:40] <Greybeard> it's just overwriting the kernel image with a bit of text
[05:40] <cdw32> h00k: i do not see that there, just the regular menu
[05:41] <krishna> Greybeard: it copied 910_GL_STACK=1 into vmlinuz file.. and vmlinuz only now has this line
[05:41] <Safe> Is there a way to block a program from accessing the internet?
[05:41] <skyl> it seems that my eee knows nothing about any bluetooth anything ..
[05:41] <Greybeard> krishna: exactly
[05:41] <krishna> Jordan_U:  it copied 910_GL_STACK=1 into vmlinuz file.. and vmlinuz only now has this line
[05:41] <gbear142751> can I put things in the /media folder without issue?
[05:41] <rob86> gbear142751: /media is for mounting devices
[05:41] <Greybeard> krishna: yeah, that would definitely make your system unbootable
[05:41] <ret> anyone?
[05:41] <krishna> Greybeard: ops must ban his ip
[05:41] <Greybeard> krishna: well, it's such an odd command I'm not sure it was malicious
[05:41] <daxroc> gbear142751: like what ? and why ?
[05:42] <crdlb> ret: looks like you'd need karmic to satisfy that dependency
[05:42] <lstarnes> krishna: reinstalling the kernel packages should fix that
[05:42] <motoh> Nuking the site from orbit, gonna try 9.04-9.10 upgrade and see if I get sound.  Wrestling with sound is much preferable to trying to sort out udevadm.
[05:42] <h00k> cdw32: It should be at the bottom of the first menu there on the left, are you on Ubuntu 9.10 karmic koala?
[05:42] <gbear142751> daxroc: looking to store .ISO files ... don't want to use home... was thinking about /opt... looking up the appropriate uses for all the folders now
[05:42] <syn-ack> hrm
[05:42] <cdw32> h00k: could i access it another way?
[05:42] <gbear142751> this is for vm organization though daxroc
[05:42] <krishna> Greybeard:  it WAS malicious.. it replaced the contents of my working vmlinuz file :P ... and Jordan_U helped me to get the image installed.. and its downloading
[05:43] <BELLINXFELON> is there a demuxer for mkv, or in other words a encoder to enable mkv support?
[05:43] <h00k> cdw32: or do you see "Add/Remove" at the bottom of the menu?
[05:43] <cdw32> h00k:  no hardy, i can not upgrade for some reason
[05:43] <rob86> gbear142751: you likely want to use home... opt is for installing apps that arent part of the distro
[05:43] <rhz> I've just installed ubuntu 9.10 in a virtual machine and my display resolution is limited to 800x600 max. Anyone know how I can make it larger?
[05:43] <cdw32> h00k:  yes
[05:43] <krishna> lstarnes: yes. i think i am doing that with Jordan_'s command
[05:43] <syn-ack> Greybeard, I'd assume it was for one reason only. Would you and I dont mean YOU but you, normally issue that command?
[05:43] <Greybeard> krishna: well, yeah, it may have been malicious, I just wonder if he was very confused and trying to put the text somewhere else
[05:43] <osubuck> alright well i tried installing the wine repository with no luck
[05:43] <osubuck> which is why i asked here in the first place
[05:44] <krishna> Greybeard: he gave the same echo  and > to are_ee that broke his vmlinuz too
[05:44] <h00k> cdw32: open up Add/Remove and look for gnash, remove it if its installed, look for swfdec, remove it if its installed, and install the Adobe Flash player
[05:44] <Greybeard> krishna: yeah, definitely seems suspicious
[05:44] <DShepherd> what text-editor can i install that supports folding?
[05:44] <daxroc> gbear142751: /media is where removable media ie: usb-flash memory-cards etc are mounted , might not be a good place for it , your home folder would be the best imo
[05:44] <syn-ack> Greybeard, that's like having a n00b issue "rm -rf /" as root knowing full good and well that it wipes the drive
[05:44] <crdlb> ret: in fact, karmic has awesome 3.3.4 in its repos
[05:44] <h00k> Shoshana: you're welcome, I hope we helped
[05:44] <syn-ack> just my 2 cents
[05:44] <Greybeard> syn-ack: yeah, you're probably right
[05:44] <krishna> Greybeard:  isnt > output redirection operator ??? :P ,,  it directed the output of echo into that file.. ha hah ah .. ! i know this already... but in a hurry..  i blinding posted his command into my terminal
[05:45] <ret> crdlb: any way to get it on BackTrack 4? GRUB says ubuntu 8.04
[05:45] <syn-ack> yes but >> appends it to the end of the file krishna
[05:45] <krishna> syn-ack:  yes.  >> appends.. but he gave only one >  .. not two
[05:45] <syn-ack> So there is a small chance that he was just trying to help but not having logs I couldnt tell you
[05:45] <cdw32> h00k: neither are there
[05:46] <h00k> cdw32: and Adobe Flash Player is installed?
[05:46] <Safe> Is there a way to totally block a program from accessing the internet?
[05:46] <syn-ack> Safe, such as?
[05:46] <Saxon> Anyone know why my Karmic won't shut down properly?
[05:46] <Safe> syn-ack: picasa, specifically.
[05:46] <rob86> the logs are here you guys http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[05:47] <syn-ack> Safe, and why don't you want it to access the 'net?
[05:47] <syn-ack> Saxon, it doesnt like you?
[05:47] <chiques> how do I make a window have su permissions?
[05:47] <gbear142751> obiwan_: any luck... you got me curious and am finding bits and pieces
[05:47] <ph33r> is the keyserver down ?
[05:47] <gbear142751> if you are still around and interested PM me
[05:47] <Safe> syn-ack: Read the license agreement and it seems pretty vague about what it does in the background. I would just feel more secure if I knew it couldn't.
[05:48] <h00k> ph33r: sometimes it doesn't respond right away...try again  soon
[05:48] <bacalhau> hi, someone knows how to disable xsplash? i like to see system messages
[05:48] <cdw32> h00k:  the only thing that says adobe is a flashblock extention
[05:48] <syn-ack> Safe, you could do it by blocking the port or the protocol in your firewall or router...
[05:48] <Saxon> syn-ack It looks to be a problem with several people in the forums
[05:48] <krishna> syn-ack: you mean to say that he wanted those words to append at the end.. but by mistake, he gave only > and not 2 ?????????
[05:48] <Guest3153> hey guys just upgraded to 9.10 and i cant get my ipod to show up in banshee!
[05:48] <ph33r> h00k: worked after repeated trys
[05:48] <Guest3153> any ideas?
[05:48] <DShepherd> !gksudo | chiques
[05:48] <syn-ack> krishna, Very well could have...
[05:48] <daxroc> Safe: don't use it if you don't agree with the licence
[05:48] <Safe> syn-ack: I do have a router. How would I know which ports/protocol it uses?
[05:49] <h00k> cdw32: are you familiar with a terminal?
[05:49] <obiwan_> gbear142751: yeah gbear142751 but not enough for me, you can launch any file with btdownloadcurses file.torrent
[05:49] <gerry_> hello
[05:49] <syn-ack> Safe, you can look that info up from google or someplace else and block it but thats out of hte scope of this channel
[05:49] <obiwan_> gbear142751: i want to know what each file does, there are many launchable in that directory
[05:49] <cdw32> h00k:  a little yes
[05:49] <gerry_> why does not empathy  spport video on msn?
[05:49] <krishna> syn-ack: "910_GL_STACK=1"  any idea what appending these letters wil do to vmlinuz ???
[05:49] <h00k> cdw32: fire up a terminal  and try "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[05:49] <Guest3153> anyone else having trouble with banshee since switching to 9.10?
[05:50] <Safe> syn-ack: It's basically illegal then?
[05:50] <syn-ack> Safe, who said anything about illegal?
[05:50] <DShepherd> gerry_: the programmers never got that far with it. :) .. sorry
[05:50] <KitsuneDragon> Guest3153: no
[05:50] <syn-ack> I certainly didnt
[05:50] <gbear142751> I'm reading through the man pages myself.  I remember my room mate (my linux mentor btw) did used to use this before switching to rtorrent and transmission
[05:50] <Greybeard> krishna: that looks like a Linux build configuration line related to Intel video
[05:50] <Safe> syn-ack: I was just wondering.
[05:50] <musikgoat1> !offtopic | Safe, its merely offtopic.
[05:50] <gerry_> isnt there a client supporting video?
[05:50] <gerry_> an msn client..
[05:50] <syn-ack> yeah, thats what I'd say, Greybeard. you just got there before I did
[05:51] <Safe> Thanks for the help!
[05:51] <gbear142751> sorry obiwan_, the above was for you
[05:51] <skyl> how can I tell if this computer has bluetooth?
[05:51] <aN1> back to try linux again, 9.10 install was really hard, hope someone can write a fakeraidhowto for it
[05:51] <krishna> Greybeard: then shall i try appending it now ? what do you think ?
[05:51] <jjgalvez> wireless no longer works unless I'm logged in please help
[05:51] <bacalhau> gerry_ pidgin and empathy supports video in xmpp/gtalk
[05:51] <Greybeard> syn-ack: no, don't touch your vmlinux file
[05:51] <zoe_> I get the following error when I run flash, can anyone help me resolve it? ALSA lib pcm_pulse.c:724:(pulse_prepare) PulseAudio: Unable to create stream: Invalid argument
[05:51] <cdw32> h00k: it says flashplugin ins the newest version
[05:51] <DShepherd> gerry_: other than windows live messenger? I thinkt there's a client called amsn that might be able to do video. I am not too sure. I am more of a skype person
[05:51] <gbear142751> Side topic... I have been getting a clicking through my speakers since upgrading to 9.10... anyone else experienced this?
[05:51] <syn-ack> Greybeard, I'm quite aware of that. :P
[05:51] <FireCrotch> skyl: lspci | grep bluetooth   and lsusb | grep bluetooth
[05:51] <DShepherd> gerry_: try amsn
[05:51] <daxroc> Safe:  look at netstat man page ( netstat -alnp )
[05:51] <Guest3153> u guys are no help
[05:51] <kinja-sheep> skyl: It is a hardware thing.  You should know if the computer have bluetooth built in.  Generally most computers does not.  However, laptops does.  You can buy a Bluetooth adapter for 5 bucks or less!
[05:51] <morfic> wgrant: thanks, one tiny little option added and all boots fine into X, but the long long compile made me realize one thing, 2.6.31-14-generic + jack +usb-audio == horrid combination for audio
[05:52] <Greybeard> krishna: don't touch your vmlinuz file
[05:52] <h00k> !patience | Guest3153
[05:52] <kinja-sheep> skyl: ^^
[05:52] <crohakon> so, updated firefox and now pandora.com will not work... any suggestions?
[05:52] <bacalhau> someone knows how to disable xsplash? i like to see system messages
[05:52] <krishna> Greybeard: ok :P i have learnt that already.. he he
[05:52] <FireCrotch> Guest3153: Please tell me your problem
[05:52] <h00k> cdw32: I'm afraid that that's probably the best I can do to try to help...
[05:52] <Greybeard> krishna: that string may be useful when you're configuring Linux to build it
[05:52] <Guest3153> i have been doing some searching and have tried all the solution i have found
[05:53] <Greybeard> building Linux from source is much more involved than just installing ubuntu
[05:53] <Guest3153> nothing has worked
[05:53] <cdw32> h00k: should i try to reinstall adobe
[05:53] <h00k> cdw32: it probably isn't going to help, what do you have for a video card?
[05:53] <kinja-sheep> !details | Guest3153
[05:53] <Guest3153> it seems that podsleuth is not recognizing my ipod
[05:53] <cdw32> h00k: not sure...
[05:53] <gotsanity> I am trying to get my linksys wireless card to go into master mode (rt2500pci chipset) and it kicks me an error message of "Invalid argument". Any ideas?
[05:54] <FireCrotch> Guest3153: What model of iPod do you have? Are you connecting it via USB or FireWire?
[05:54] <daxroc> gotsanity: It might not support monitor mode, you probably need patched drivers if your card does support it
[05:54] <Guest3153> usb and its a ipod mini.. it was working fine with banshee before the upgrade to 9.10
[05:54] <Guest3153> and my G1 shows up fine in banshee
[05:55] <gotsanity> daxroc: from what i can find it requires the rt2x00pci drivers (which are loaded along with rt2500)
[05:55] <Guest3153> when i connect my ipod banshee opens and it shows up on my desktop but not in the window in banshee
[05:56] <a_r0n> i just got rid of debian and installed ubuntu (hardy) on my laptop
[05:56] <SetiAmon> oy
[05:56] <SetiAmon> Script,Aaron are you still here
[05:57] <FluxD> If I have a server with 2 nics and 2 ips, Is there any way to change the primary ip ?
[05:57] <a_r0n> i installed GDM and gnome , but when i run startx it tells me that /etc/x11/.. no such file or directory
[05:57] <kinja-sheep> !yay | a_r0n
[05:57] <SetiAmon> while trying to fix my sound in karmic,I rebooted at one point and found myself in a login loop were when i put my password in it just loads up the login screen again
[05:57] <Greybeard> FluxD: what do you mean by "primary"?
[05:57] <danielle> All! does anyone know if there are package dvd of all ubuntu packages for download including restricted ones
[05:58] <Tartaros> hi. Could someone enlighten me as to why is squid automatically installed on ubuntu desktop? the thing is it§s crashing for me (now with Koala), so I uninstalled it but am not sure if I should have
[05:58] <FluxD> Greybeard, I have 2 ips but when I go online to check my ip my primary ip is the first ip I was assigned not the second one
[05:58] <a_r0n> for somereason xserver isnt initializing
[05:59] <Greybeard> FluxD: you mean both NICs are connected to the same network?
[05:59] <FluxD> Greybeard, yes
[05:59] <cdw32> h00k:  thank you
[05:59] <daxroc> FluxD: are these public ips or private
[05:59] <Trezker> Every time someone goes online, pidgin puts up a notification I don't want. Can I turn that off somewhere? I can't find the option.
[05:59] <FluxD> daxroc, Public
[05:59] <g33k> i have setup svn on https, everything seems fine except an error " errcode="2" Could not open the requested SVN filesystem", i changed the permissions but no use how to resolve me on Karmic
[05:59] <Guest3153> podsleuth reports "no ipods were found in the HAL device tree"
[05:59] <h00k> cdw32: I'm sorry
[05:59] <DShepherd> Tartaros: did you do a clean install?
[05:59] <h00k> cdw32: if you asked around, I'm sure somebody could help you come up with the proper help
[05:59] <Greybeard> FluxD: well, depending on your routing table, datagrams can come from either NIC then
[05:59] <motoh> Here's one I can't wrap my head around.
[05:59] <h00k> cdw32: also, I'm heading to bed soon.
[06:00] <gotsanity> is there a way to tell what version number a kernel module is?
[06:00] <motoh> Why is gcc not supported in 9.10?  The upgrade asks me to remove it.
[06:00] <Greybeard> FluxD: why do you have two NICs connected to the same network?
[06:00] <Tartaros> DShepherd: no I just upgraded to 9.10 from 9.04. But I never messed with anything near squid :)
[06:00] <cdw32> h00k: its fine. i will be heading there myself... i just dont think i am cut out for linux
[06:00] <daxroc> FluxD: have you two connections to the same isp?
[06:00] <FluxD> Greybeard, the datacenter offered 2 ips and I had 2 nics
[06:00] <bastidrazor> motoh: 9.10 has a new version.
[06:00] <FluxD> daxroc, no its a server in a datacenter
[06:00] <h00k> cdw32: don't despair :(
[06:01] <h00k> cdw32: what hardware are you on?
[06:01] <h00k> cdw32: model?
[06:01] <DShepherd> Tartaros: oh, well from the little i know .. grins ... squid is not automatically installed in ubuntu so, I am not sure what happened when you were upgrading but squid is not default stuff
[06:01] <DShepherd> !squid | Tartaros
[06:01] <motoh> Aaaaagh
[06:01] <daxroc> FluxD: you can assign both ips to the one nic
[06:01] <motoh> It's doing the timeout thing anyway.
[06:01] <DShepherd> !find squid
[06:01] <Greybeard> FluxD: if you paste your routing table, maybe we could help, but I don't know if you want to reveal that
[06:01] <cdw32> h00k:  dell inspiron 1210
[06:01] <FluxD> Greybeard, how do I view it?
[06:01] <Tartaros> DShepherd: ok, so be it :) thanks
[06:02] <Greybeard> FluxD: netstat -rn
[06:02] <daxroc> FluxD: how are you checking it's ip online ?
[06:02] <cdw32> h00k:  i thought maybe if i updated firefox, but i cant even do that
[06:02] <h00k> cdw3C: a mini12?
[06:02] <ph33r> how do I install this fingerprint usplash in jaunty? I added the ppa in the software resources, imported the key, did an update and upgrade but it didn't install it yet.. could anyone tell me where am I going wrong ?
[06:02] <DShepherd> Tartaros: no prob. If you want to really clear your head just run this command and you will see that it is not automatically isntalled  -- aptitude show squid
[06:02] <Xed> So anyone in mood for troubleshooting a weird internet-connection issue?  [karmic]
[06:02] <zoe> Hi, I lose sound when flash player is active, can anyone help me with this?
[06:02] <cdw32> h00k:  terminal keeps saying the files do not exist, but i just dl them
[06:02] <cdw32> h00k:  yes mini 12
[06:03] <FluxD> daxroc, ipchicken.com
[06:03] <motoh> Ugh.  Guess I'm stuck with this damned problem.
[06:03] <cdw32> h00k:  great little computer
[06:03] <a_r0n> any way im installing xserver-xorg-core now , this should fix my problem correct ?
[06:03] <h00k> cdw32: I'm going to suggest updating to Karmic, if possible, they have better/newer Intel drivers
[06:03] <LoCoBoi187> lets have sex
[06:03] <daxroc> FluxD: you need to tell your application which route to use
[06:03] <Guest48862> #/join vbox
[06:03] <h00k> !op | LoCoBoi187
[06:03] <FluxD> daxroc, How would I tell firefox to use a different one?
[06:03] <cdw32> h00k: karmic is ubuntu?
[06:04] <SetiAmon> well it took 8 hours to reinstall karmic fresh,can anyone tell me if there is a way to please prevent another login loop from forming,what its from etc.google reveals nothing
[06:04] <gogeta2> someone is being bad
[06:04] <h00k> cdw32: it sure is, its the latest version
[06:04] <cdw32> h00k: how would one go about that
[06:04] <motoh> Is there a ....
[06:04] <a_r0n> brb
[06:04] <motoh> Nevermind.
[06:04] <Greybeard> SetiAmon: why did it take 8 hours?
[06:04] <h00k> cdw32: also, I may suggest the netbook remix
[06:05] <SandGorgon> Karmic is more unstable for me than Jaunty - I have been getting periodic kernel crashes that are being sent with some regularity (!) to kerneloops.org
[06:05] <motoh> So I'm back to http://paste.ubuntu.com/307238/
[06:05] <fixdit> is there a way to make a nice setting persistent via the gui?
[06:05] <h00k> cdw32: http://ubuntu.com
[06:05] <Greybeard> SandGorgon: I don't get kernel OOPSes; my laptop just stops responding entirely
[06:05] <cdw32> h00k: remix of karmic
[06:05] <gogeta2> SandGorgon: did you frsh install my frend got that stuff untill he did
[06:05] <h00k> cdw32: yeah, it's optomized for smaller screens
[06:05] <fixdit> for example i want my virtualbox to have a high priority from startup
[06:05] <zoe> Hi, I lose sound when flash player is active, can anyone help me with this?
[06:06] <SetiAmon> whenever it gets to "finishing up user settings and password" it hangs there for around 8 hours(or more) before finishes,no ideas why
[06:06] <SandGorgon> gogeta2, I fresh installed Karmic RC and updated from then on  - should I do another fresh install ? dont feel like it though
[06:06] <h00k> cdw32: for instance, this is the netbook I'm on right now: http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthonyrhook/4066293009/
[06:06] <FluxD> Greybeard, How would I tell firefox to use a different one?
[06:06] <GJLenon> Evening all.
[06:06] <cdw32> h00k:  ok let me see if i can do this
[06:06] <Greybeard> FluxD: well, Firefox and other applications don't control the route actually
[06:06] <gogeta2> SandGorgon: no you should be fine there
[06:06] <h00k> cdw32: you sshould have better flash preformance
[06:06] <motoh> Is there a way to log the entire startup?
[06:06] <Greybeard> FluxD: which IP will be used depends on your routing table
[06:07] <FluxD> Greybeard, is there anyway so firefox would use a certain ip ?
[06:07] <Greybeard> FluxD: do you need to use both IPs?
[06:07] <FluxD> Greybeard, Why not? :p
[06:07] <shirley_> hmm
[06:07] <Greybeard> FluxD: there may be a way to get Firefox to do that, but I haven't needed to do so
[06:07] <cdw32> h00k: it will be awhile until the dl is comlete
[06:07] <Greybeard> there's not generally any need
[06:07] <h00k> cdw32: are you familiar with getting that on to a USB drive?
[06:08] <FluxD> Greybeard, what way?
[06:08] <IndyGunFreak> cdw32: what are you trying to do?
[06:08] <SetiAmon> I wish i never migrated from jaunty but now that i have had to reformat and reinstall my hd I figure I shoudl get this too work
[06:08] <a_r0n> well apparently installing xserver-xorg-core didnt fix my problem
[06:08] <Greybeard> FluxD: well, why do you care which of your two IPs Firefox uses?
[06:08] <daxroc> Greybeard: I beleve there is a way to force all http requsets out x nic etc not sure I remember how
[06:08] <h00k> IndyGunFreak: he's on hardy, I suggested an upgrade to karmic for the newer intel drivers for better performance
[06:08] <a_r0n> still cant get the GUI to initialize
[06:08] <cdw32> h00k: i am dl the remix
[06:08] <IndyGunFreak> h00k: oh ok...
[06:08] <Greybeard> daxroc: yes, there are probably several ways
[06:08] <FluxD> Greybeard, Many reasons
[06:08] <IndyGunFreak> yeah, makes sense
[06:09] <cdw32> h00k:  ia m reading about it now
[06:09] <h00k> cdw32: there is a USB installer in your menu, you can use that to install it to a USB drive
[06:09] <motoh> Is there a way to pull the log of an entire startup from grub to login screen?
[06:09] <IndyGunFreak> cdw32: the remix sucks unless you have a netbook..
[06:09] <yacyac> hey IndyGunFreak
[06:09] <Tartaros> DShepherd: that's a nice command but it didn't really say in which package group squid is. Or did I miss something? :)
[06:09] <Greybeard> daxroc: I'm sure you could set up iptables rules to route out a certain address based on port or local process
[06:09] <IndyGunFreak> yacyac: greetings
[06:09] <h00k> cdw32: I have to run but there are plenty of people who should be able to help
[06:09] <skyl> I'm going to buy a bluetooth dongle, is there anyone that is known to work better/worse with ubuntu or are they all basically the same?
[06:09] <cdw32> IndyGunFreak: i have a netbook
[06:09] <h00k> IndyGunFreak: he as a Dell Mini12
[06:09] <motoh> I need to pluck the text to put into a bug report.
[06:09] <cdw32> h00k: thatnks
[06:09] <IndyGunFreak> cdw32: oh ok.. well its not bad for a netbook, but i stil prefer normal gnome.
[06:09] <cdw32> h00k: have a good night
[06:09] <daxroc> Greybeard: socksv4 proxy even ?
[06:10] <h00k> cdw32: you as well. Peace.
[06:10] <danielle> is there a way to download all the karmic packages [universe restricted etc...]??????
[06:10] <cdw32> IndyGunFreak: i havent been using linux very long so i really have nothing really to compare to
[06:10] <skyl> danielle why would you want to do that?
[06:10] <IndyGunFreak> danielle: yeah, first, you'll need about 50 CDs
[06:10] <zaidka> danielle, seriously?
[06:10] <[TK]D-Fender> Got a clean install of 9.10 and PulseAudio hits 100% and locks up my quitting OpenArena, etc.  Seems this sort of thing has been going on for a while.  Any news of a fix in the works?
[06:10] <Greybeard> daxroc: yeah, that's probably another way
[06:10] <danielle> skyl cause my desktop pc dont have internet plus it would come in handy
[06:10] <zoe> Hi, I lose sound when flash player is active, can anyone help me with this?
[06:11] <danielle> dvd's arnt the problem
[06:11] <daxroc> Greybeard: little over kill but would get the job done for multiple apps
[06:11] <Tartaros> danielle: it seems more like it would come in crazy
[06:11] <motoh> Is there a way to pull the entire startup log?
[06:11] <KitsuneDragon> [TK]D-Fender: heppens to metoo
[06:11] <IndyGunFreak> !aptoncd | danielle ... i think this might help you.. but man.. that will take a LOT of disks
[06:11] <skyl> ah, that's fairly reasonable I guess ... but idk
[06:11] <zaidka> danielle, there's a 5gb dvd iso. Maybe that's what you're looking for
[06:11] <imthatguy> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0
[06:11] <Greybeard> daxroc: right, but I'm still wondering what the purpose of the multiple addresses is
[06:11] <Guest65754> i like kubuntu 9.10 its really stable anthing better i usally use gnome but i like the wigets
[06:11] <IndyGunFreak> danielle: woops, i don't think thats it
[06:12] <Greybeard> daxroc: how the routing should be really depends on what the addresses are to be used for
[06:12] <IndyGunFreak> danielle: well, why dont you have internet access on your linux pc?
[06:12] <bastidrazor> imthatguy: you are retarded.
[06:12] <Greybeard> daxroc: for example, you might want to dedicate one address to a container or virtual machine
[06:12] <KitsuneDragon> i dislike widgets but thats because i have awn
[06:12] <saurav> in kermic i got .ICAuthority error kde version of jaunty. Can anyone fix this !
[06:12] <Guest65754> awn is nice two i like the osx clone bar
[06:12] <[TK]D-Fender> KitsuneDragon: Sad to see this kind of thing.... I was on 8.10 upped through 9.04 and it did just fine
[06:12] <danielle> i know about apt-on-cd it's just the laptop is 32 bit and the desktop is 64 bit so i'm planing on finding out if i can download all the packages? and what is this 5gig dvd u speak of/
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> Guest65754: awn makes me yawn
[06:13] <daxroc> Greybeard:one for public services etc one for private :)
[06:13] <[TK]D-Fender> KitsuneDragon: When it happens I kill OA from a raw terminal and I can get back to business...
[06:13] <Tartaros> whoever was asking about the pidgin popup disabling = it can be done by setting and/or disabling of one of it's plugins
[06:13] <IndyGunFreak> danielle: oh ok.. yeah that would be difficult.
[06:13] <cdw32> h00k:  real quick if i could, but where is the USB installer on the menu?
[06:13] <danielle> so if i can download all the packages i will make dvd's then torrent them
[06:13] <saurav> in kermic i got .ICAuthority error like kde version of jaunty. Can anyone fix this !
[06:13] <Greybeard> daxroc: what do you mean by "private"?
[06:13] <danielle> not of restricted tho
[06:14] <daxroc> Greybeard: firefox on a datacenter server ?
[06:14] <krishna> Greybeard, i got my vmlinuz restored.. now in my 9.10 only
[06:14] <krishna> Jordan_U, thanks very much
[06:14] <KitsuneDragon> [TK]D-Fender: how do you kill it? it locks up my entire system and when playing the sound crackles like crazy do you have a fix especially when quiting i hate having to hard reboot
[06:14] <Greybeard> krishna: good
[06:14] <Guest65754> what else is in restricted packages other then drivers
[06:14] <danielle> so is there a way of doing it? anyone.
[06:14] <Greybeard> daxroc: what about firefox on a datacenter server ?
[06:14] <daxroc> Greybeard: well not on the http side so say ssh is not open on the ip you are serving http requests from
[06:14] <danielle> guest drivers thats it :P
[06:14] <Xed> So any help with my net issue guys?
[06:14] <Greybeard> daxroc: so, you want some obfuscation?
[06:15] <crohakon> Greybeard; why would you need firefox on a datacenter server?!
[06:15] <krishna> !fsck
[06:15] <Jordan_U> krishna, np
[06:15] <Greybeard> crohakon: I don't know; I'm not the one doing it
[06:15] <daxroc> Greybeard: no not me
[06:15] <crohakon> Greybeard; Do they also have X on it?! And doing remote desktop? lol
[06:15] <krishna> Jordan_U, do you know how to fire all broken packages to get my ubuntu 9.10 to its full speed of old 9.04 .. its way tooooooooo slow /
[06:15] <Greybeard> crohakon: not sure
[06:15] <danielle> anyone?
[06:16] <Greybeard> I'm not even sure it's a datacenter server being discussed
[06:16] <Tartaros> krishna: what do you mean by broken packages?
[06:16] <daxroc> Greybeard: FluxD said it was a datacenter ?
[06:16] <[TK]D-Fender> KitAlt-F1 gets me a raw TTY outside of X and I just "ps" and see that pulseaudio & OpenArena are at 100%.  Since I was quitting OE anyway I just kill that and the rest returns to normal and I Alt-F7 my way back to my X+Gnome
[06:16] <KitsuneDragon> Vista is so bloated /sigh/
[06:16] <Greybeard> daxroc: OK; too much noise in here to keep things straight
[06:16] <Jordan_U> krishna, I'm not sure what you mean by "fire all broken packages" but System > Administration > Computer Janitor is probably what you want
[06:17] <FluxD> Greybeard, daxroc Exactly what daxroc said ssh on one ip webserver on another
[06:17] <motoh> How do I find the log of the startup?
[06:17] <Greybeard> FluxD: yeah, that might be a good idea
[06:17] <n8tuser> motoh->  look in /var/log/*
[06:17] <FluxD> motoh, /var/log/messages I think
[06:17] <KitsuneDragon> [TK]D-Fender: alt-F7 does that work even when the game is fullscreen?
[06:17] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  Wondering if someone could help me out.  I've installed "flashplugin-nonfree", but its still not working with FF 3.5.4
[06:17] <[TK]D-Fender> KitsuneDragon: Yup
[06:17] <Tartaros> is there some automagic way to tell my system to autodetect harddisks? it's not showing my other harddisk to mount while it used to in 9.04
[06:18] <Greybeard> SeanInSeattle: 64-bit Firefox?
[06:18] <FluxD> Greybeard, daxroc So how exactly would I make firefox etc use a certain ip
[06:18] <eclipsekid0700> im bored any cool packages i can install to play around with any suggestions?
[06:18] <motoh> Ergh.
[06:18] <SeanInSeattle> Greybeard:  Yes.  64-bit FF 3.5.4
[06:18] <daxroc> FluxD: you can configure ssh to listen only on xnic, would be well worth reading up on ssh configuration , I suggest you implement key only login too
[06:18] <[TK]D-Fender> KitWell... when I'm in the game I Alt-F1 to CLI.  Log in, kill OQA, and when I Alt-F7 back I return to find Gnome, not OE
[06:18] <KitsuneDragon> [TK]D-Fender: cool! but do you also happen to know how to fix the sound from crackeling?
[06:18] <zoe> Hi, I lose sound when flash player is active, can anyone help me with this?
[06:18] <Greybeard> SeanInSeattle: the flashplugin-nonfree package only installs the 32-bit plugin AFAIK
[06:18] <FluxD> daxroc, Ok
[06:18] <motoh> Not finding what I need.  Is there a way to search all the file's contents?
[06:18] <[TK]D-Fender> KitOh, don't get me wrong.. I am not FIXING the problem.. I jsut get to ESCAPE OE and get back to business
[06:18] <motoh> I need the udevadm 'settle' bit.
[06:19] <saurav> What is .ICEAuthority ? I got error saying the file could not be updated during session startup. I am using ubuntu 9.10
[06:19] <[TK]D-Fender> KitsuneDragon: This guide seems to make some strong tips : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[06:19] <Greybeard> SeanInSeattle: so, you either have to use nspluginwrapper or manually install the native one from Adobe
[06:19] <SeanInSeattle> Anyone know how to get the 64bit FF flash plugin?
[06:19] <krishna> Tartaros, my story : i upgraded to ubuntu 9.10 from 9.04 yesterday evening.. using alternate.iso .. but i "kept"  during clean up process...then i got resolution problem in ubuntu 9.10 .......... then i got fixed by itself. i dont know how it did... someone hhere gave me a destruction command that claimed to insert intel graphic drivers into vmlinuz.. but it didint . it broke my vmlinuz .. i had to reinstall from live cd. /..  now , i have 9.10 working,,
[06:19] <krishna> ,, but its TOOOOOOO SLow.. not as speed as the old 9.04....  any help plz ?
[06:19] <SeanInSeattle> Ack, let me rephrase...
[06:19] <daxroc> FluxD: as for running firefox on a server I wouldn't recomend it. eat all your memory and kill a few kittens along the way !
[06:19] <zoe> SeanInSeattle: download it from their site at: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[06:19] <zoe> SeanInSeattle: then place it in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins
[06:20] <FluxD> daxroc, I have more than enough ram on here :)
[06:20] <krishna> Jordan_U, i heard that janitor would BREAK my system :P ??
[06:20] <eclipsekid0700> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[06:20] <SeanInSeattle> I've tried installing the native flash player from adobe.com, but that one didn't install.
[06:20] <zoe> SeanInSeattle: it is still in beta, though, so expect some problems
[06:20] <eclipsekid0700> then put in al fire fox folders
[06:20] <SeanInSeattle> zoe:  ah, maybe it was the location of the file... I'll try it again.
[06:20] <cdw32> IndyGunFreak: do you kno anything about usb-creator?
[06:20] <KitsuneDragon> [TK]D-Fender: oh darn...
[06:20] <daxroc> i have 32Gb and want more :P
[06:20] <Tartaros> krishna: well it's hard to say how to fix something when you cant say how you broke it :) but it seems like a driver/module problem, not package...
[06:20] <Jordan_U> krishna, I don't think they would include it by default if it did
[06:20] <zoe> SeanInSeattle: you must place the .so file in the plugins folder for firefox
[06:20] <Greybeard> FluxD: http://lartc.org/ is probably a good place to start
[06:20] <crohakon> FluxD; Do you also have gnome/kde on your server? =)
[06:21] <FluxD> Greybeard, thanks
[06:21] <kinja-sheep> Anybody knowing the text file where all links on Desktop/Gnome Panel information resides in?
[06:21] <KitsuneDragon> can wget go through an RSS feed and pick the most recent??
[06:21] <krishna> Tartaros, no no.. i didnt break anything.. that command replaced vmlinuz and i restored it from live cd..
[06:21] <FluxD> crohakon, lol xubuntu too :P
[06:21] <eclipsekid0700> #!/bin/bash
[06:21] <eclipsekid0700> # Script  created by
[06:21] <eclipsekid0700> # Romeo-Adrian Cioaba<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:21] <eclipsekid0700> # Super minor updates by jason.melton[at]gmail[dot]com
[06:21] <eclipsekid0700> # Updates by Alejandro Cuervo 3[at]cuervo[dot]net
[06:21] <FloodBot3> eclipsekid0700: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:21] <eclipsekid0700> # more very minor updates by damien[at]groovey[dot]com
[06:21] <crohakon> FluxD; Why?! lol
[06:21] <n8tuser> kinja-sheep-> start in /etc/gdm/
[06:21] <krishna> Jordan_U, ok :P
[06:22] <Tartaros> krishna: well dunno then your descrption is still kind of vague. Anyway what the janitor program does is basically removing orphaned packages, it's no blck magic
[06:22] <kinja-sheep> !away > wolf_pup-sleep
[06:22] <FluxD> crohakon, Just for fun I suppose but I dont use it till I need it
[06:22] <Greybeard> kinja-sheep: I think the GNOME panel stuff is all in Gconf
[06:22] <crohakon> FluxD; What would you need it for?
[06:22] <troy1> hoping someone can help with my dual boot issues
[06:22] <FluxD> kinja-sheep, gconf-editor
[06:22] <mebigfatguy> is there a gnome addon that allows for a 'copy path' from a file/directory icon context menu?
[06:22] <Greybeard> kinja-sheep: the easiest way to edit gconf stuff directly is gconf-editor
[06:22] <troy1> using easy bcd to control boot
[06:22] <revant> Hey I'm using reconstructor. Anyone familiar with it?
[06:23] <kinja-sheep> Greybeard: How about something in terminal? SSH.
[06:23] <Greybeard> kinja-sheep: I'm not sure if there is one
[06:23] <FluxD> crohakon, I havent used xubuntu so was a good way to play with it
[06:23] <krishna> Jordan_U, ok. i started janitor and it freezez my computer ??? is this normal ??  i read in many blogs that janitor is dangerous :P .. sorry
[06:23] <Greybeard> kinja-sheep: the gconf files are XML by default, so you could edit them directly
[06:23] <troy1> i have installed grub into dev/sdb1
[06:23] <FluxD> kinja-sheep, the actual files are in .gnome2/gconf I think
[06:23] <eclipsekid0700> I like kubuntu
[06:23] <FuRom> Does anyone know what all is used on the netbook remix panel? I'm specifically trying to figure out what the task-tray-thing was....
[06:24] <Mnemonic^> Hi.. Need help.. I Just installed Ubuntu 9.10 and Activated the ATI hardware driver, and Now my computer will not boot into Ubuntu.
[06:24] <Greybeard> kinja-sheep: you can edit the files directly, but it's probably not a good idea
[06:24] <daxroc> FluxD: would be far better to use server edition, one with long term support pref
[06:24] <SetiAmon> Okay has anyone here been able to install the X-fi beta drivers on karmic koala x64??? initial installation produces echoing/distorted sound.removing pulse audio cleans it up a great deal but it still has distortions in the audio.I can't install the creative drivers on it(work flawlessly on jaunty) I have heard of others intalling the drivers and getting audio to work perfectly.anyone here able to help me?
[06:24] <troy1> but when i boot into linux i get splash screen with linux start up choices but then next just a grub>
[06:24] <cdw32> could anyone help me with usb-creator?
[06:24] <FluxD> daxroc, It is server version just with an added gui
[06:24] <zoe> Hi, I lose sound when flash player is active, can anyone help me with this?
[06:24] <revant> Mnemonic, whats does the screen show
[06:24] <eclipsekid0700> ATI driver reinsall it as root in fail safe mode
[06:25] <nDuff> Pasting via the middle button doesn't work for me on 9.10; known issue? any workaround?
[06:25] <Mnemonic^> Just Black after the Ubuntu Loading Logo
[06:25] <krishna> is it possible to seperate my / and desktop ?? so that i can do a fresh install into / and keep desktop files sage ?
[06:25] <Greybeard> zoe: problems with sound and Flash are very common, but not all the same, so look in the forums
[06:25] <krishna> *safe ?
[06:25] <eclipsekid0700> what r u using usb creater for
[06:25] <SeanInSeattle> zoe:  :(  I placed the native flash plugin in the right place, but it still won't display the flash media on the flash test page.
[06:25] <Mnemonic^> revant, Caps Lock turns On, and then Nothing. The computer seams to halt
[06:25] <zoe> Greybeard: I'm very certain this is a pulseaudio issue, if that narrows it down at all...
[06:25] <cdw32> eclipsekid0700: to install karmic remix
[06:25] <SeanInSeattle> zoe:  Is there a way that I can determine which plugins are in use during runtime?
[06:25] <troy1> has anyone used neogrub
[06:25] <zoe> SeanInSeattle: did you remember to restart firefox?
[06:25] <troy1> or can help with
[06:26] <SeanInSeattle> zoe:  :0)  Yes, I restarted FF.
[06:26] <Greybeard> zoe: is flash using pulseaudio?
[06:26] <zoe> SeanInSeattle: also, if you browse to the page about:plugins, firefox will display which plugins are active
[06:26] <troy1> just how much info needs to be pasted in from the grub menu list
[06:26] <Shoshana> help me i installed ubuntu and i cant write with my language \
[06:26] <krishna> is it possible to seperate my / and desktop ?? so that i can do a fresh install into / and keep desktop files safe ?? how to do .. any help
[06:26] <SeanInSeattle> zoe:  Ah, thx.
[06:26] <eclipsekid0700> you might be able to http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[06:26] <Greybeard> zoe: some versions of flash don't work well with pulseaudio, but the most recent ones seem fine
[06:26] <kinja-sheep> Greybeard: Thanks. That was what I'm looking for (in launchers).
[06:26] <FluxD> troy1, I have used easybcd part of it
[06:26] <zoe> Greybeard: I believe so. however, on boot I recieve a notification that pulseaudio is not working
[06:27] <revant> boot into safe mode and move the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.ati
[06:27] <Greybeard> zoe: oh, so it's probably a more general pulseaudio problem
[06:27] <troy1> ## ## End Default Options ##
[06:27] <troy1> just evrything between here
[06:27] <troy1> ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
[06:27] <SeanInSeattle> zoe:  :(  "No plugins are installed"
[06:27] <FloodBot3> troy1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:27] <Shoshana> help me i installed ubuntu and i cant write with my language
[06:27] <troy1> oh cool
[06:27] <troy1> flux
[06:27] <Greybeard> zoe: do you get sound from other apps?
[06:27] <troy1> can i send you my menu list
[06:27] <daxroc> zoe: did you upgrade or do a fresh install recently ?
[06:27] <FluxD> troy1, pastebin.ca paste it there
[06:27] <zoe> Greybeard: I get sound from most things just fine... I get sound from pidgin until I load a flash video
[06:28] <Mnemonic^> revant, How do I do that when I dont have options in my Grub? Can I force Grub to show me options during boot somehow?
[06:28] <zoe> daxroc: fresh install kubuntu 9.10 about 4 hours ago
[06:28] <eclipsekid0700> Use alsa not pulse
[06:28] <fixdit> is it safe to grsync a whole / root partition?
[06:28] <Greybeard> zoe: can you run the pavucontrol program?
[06:28] <siimo> hi the Human icon theme in Ubuntu looks great - but is there a "Blue" version of this for use in xubuntu?
[06:28] <h4f> Mnemonic^:  just press Esc key duting the boot I think
[06:28] <eclipsekid0700> ALSA works good with flash audio
[06:28] <SetiAmon> I get audio but fresh out it is highly distorted.removing all pulse audio and it cleans it up but it is still distorted.
[06:28] <krishna> upgrading from 9.04 is not ok .. it made my computer tooooooooooooo slow :(
[06:29] <troy1> :-( how to paste.ca
[06:29] <FluxD> krishna, Its always better to do a clean reisntall with a backup
[06:29] <rudie> hello all, i have a problem, can anyone help me to configure grub 2 on karmic koala fresh install so that it can boot Mac OS X Leopard? [iATKOSv7]
[06:29] <zoe> Greybeard: yes. it gives me a warning stating: Connection failed: Connection refused
[06:29] <Mnemonic^> h4f, I wil try
[06:29] <mebigfatguy> is there a gnome addon for 'copy path' to be added to a file/directory icon context menu
[06:29] <Greybeard> zoe: ok, that means that pulseaudio isn't running
[06:29] <Jordan_U> rudie, Why not use rEFIt instead?
[06:29] <krishna> FluxD, is it possible to make 9.04's desktop into a new partition so that i fresh install 9.10 ?
[06:29] <NoelJB> rudie, try #grub
[06:29] <Greybeard> zoe: can you run Firefox from a terminal?
[06:29] <FluxD> troy1, goto that website and paste it
[06:30] <zoe> Greybeard: and go to a flash-enabled site, right?
[06:30] <rudie> Jordan_U, can i use chameleon v2?
[06:30] <FluxD> krishna, usually backup the home folder and it should be fine
[06:30] <Greybeard> zoe: right
[06:30] <h4f> Greybeard: you can run other text based web  browsers
[06:30] <SetiAmon> I'm a bit uncertain as to what i do,previously my only experience was with jaunty.were i would just install the creative drivers and it would work.But i'm having trouble getting audio to work right within karmic and i can't install the xfi drivers.
[06:30] <Greybeard> zoe: the flash plugin should give you some error messages on standard error
[06:30] <motoh> I'm stuck, I guess.
[06:30] <danielle> is there a program or command that will download all folders selected from a ftp server :?
[06:30] <NiteSnow> Hello i have 2 monitors and i would like to set my bigger monitor as the primary monitor in Karmic Koala how would i do that ?
[06:30] <Mnemonic^> How can I debug why ATI drivers are not working on my laptop?
[06:30] <Greybeard> h4f: in order to test the flash plugin?
[06:30] <troy1> cannot load page
[06:30] <angelus> krishna http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/ << that is what i used when i realised having a separate /home was a good thing (desktop is insid /home )
[06:31] <daxroc> danielle: firefox plugin down them all
[06:31] <motoh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/307238/ It all returns to this.
[06:31] <rudie> i dunno how to install rEFI [Chamaleon v2 is default with my Mac DVD]
[06:31] <zoe> Greybeard: that wouldn't happen to be the terminal still, would it? absolute silence there, even though rick in failing to roll me
[06:31] <danielle> thankyou
[06:31] <Jordan_U> rudie, Is this a hackintosh?
[06:31] <chiques> is there a special command other than 'nautilus' to open a gui window from the terminal?
[06:31] <rudie> yes
[06:31] <h4f> Greybeard: no you want be able to do that from terminal. you can stat firefox from terminal but in graaphical mode
[06:31] <rudie> its a Hackintosh
[06:31] <wrapster> even after installing the flash plugin im unable to load any online videos... im on 9.04(64bit)
[06:31] <Greybeard> zoe: if you run "firefox" from a terminal when it's already running, it'll just open a new window
[06:32] <wrapster> can anyone pls help
[06:32] <Greybeard> zoe: shut down firefox completely, then run it from a terminal
[06:32] <Jordan_U> rudie, We don't discuss / support illegal activities here
[06:32] <zoe> Greybeard: oops, my bad. I didn't even notice I already had it up
[06:32] <daxroc> (killall -9 firefox-bin
[06:32] <Greybeard> zoe: it's just a confusing behavior of firefox
[06:32] <troy1> not able open location of paste.ca
[06:32] <dr3mro> plz karmic has some space wallpapers that rotates ,, what its name so i can search for more
[06:32] <troy1> takes me to free dns
[06:32] <rudie> i thought i can try it before i purchase a mac, Mac is seriously too costly... M a windows habituated...
[06:33] <zoe> Greybeard: I get this (npviewer.bin:4407): Gtk-WARNING **: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines/libqtcurve.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[06:33] <rudie> so its necessary to try first
[06:33] <rudie> :(
[06:33] <krishna> angelus, use gparted to resize my exisiting ubuntu partition and make that new partition to home ????  i have only 15 gb ext4 partition for ubuntu... what size will / need ??
[06:33] <Greybeard> zoe: so, your Firefox is 64-bit or 32-bit?
[06:33] <zoe> Greybeard: 64
[06:33] <Greybeard> zoe: and you installed the 64-bit flash plugin?
[06:33] <zoe> Greybeard: I did
[06:33] <KitsuneDragon> why does wubi limit itself to 30gb?
[06:34] <cdw32> Night all!
[06:34] <FluxD> zoe, ia32libs ?
[06:34] <Greybeard> zoe: but flash applets do display, right?
[06:34] <zoe> Greybeard: yes they do
[06:34] <zoe> FluxD: ?
[06:34] <angelus> krishna you should have a bit of extra space .... but i have 20 for / and 55 for /home .... but i onloy use Ubuntu so .....
[06:34] <Greybeard> zoe: so, that error probably isn't relevant
[06:34] <Greybeard> zoe: are there any messages about alsa or pulse or anything audio related?
[06:34] <FluxD> zoe, some programs use that install, not sure about firefox
[06:34] <rudie> Anyone?
[06:34] <daxroc> no there should be a pulse error somewhere
[06:34] <motoh> KK is barely controlled chaos.
[06:34] <wrapster> anyone who can help me
[06:35] <krishna> angelus, i use ubuntu and xp.... then i will backup all my files and fresh install ubuntu...
[06:35] <zoe> Greybeard: no, none at all. that was the only error I recieved from firefox
[06:35] <pxpradio> hello,  i have a question about upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10 in sun virtual box.
[06:35] <motoh> Is there any way to log the startup data?
[06:35] <motoh> It's not being logged anywhere I can find.
[06:35] <angelus> oh .... krishna you can just move your files to XP partition then ....
[06:35] <motoh> And I need some more data than just what I have stuck in http://paste.ubuntu.com/307238/
[06:35] <Greybeard> zoe: and if you try another app that plays sound now, it doesn't work?
[06:35] <meowpup> hi where would the application files be situated. /bin ?????
[06:35] <krishna> angelus, yes.
[06:35] <pxpradio> would it cause any issues in a virtual environment for testing a webserver or should i stay where i am at
[06:35] <krishna> angelus, thanks
[06:35] <daxroc> zoe: is this a persistant audio or does it come and go, have you tried restarting the pulse server ?
[06:36] <zoe> Greybeard: Amarox plays just fine
[06:36] <angelus> np ..
[06:36] <motoh> Is there a way to make udev time out after 3 seconds at least?
[06:36] <gnuyen> does anyone know how to swap left and middle click in ubuntu? karmic koala is ignoring my hid file
[06:36] <Greybeard> zoe: so the problem is just that Flash doesn't make any sound?
[06:36] <motoh> That would make this nonsense more tolerable.
[06:36] <zoe> daxroc: it appears to only affect apps that use pulseaudio,  flash makes pidgin stop working, but not amarok
[06:37] <zoe> Greybeard: Pidgin stops making sound aftering trying a flash video also
[06:37] <eclipsekid0700> Use ALSA not pulse
[06:37] <rudie> :)