[00:43] <freebdS> in postfix if mynetworks= is set to mynetworks=<IP_ADDRESS>/24, <IP_ADDRESS>/8" what sense does it make to set inet_interfaces to loopback?
[00:44] <pragmaticenigma> freebdS, That might be a better question to ask in #ubuntu-server or #postfix
[00:45] <freebdS> ok
[00:59] <turbokitty> Hi
[01:03] <Casper26> Can anyone help with this please? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mKwjhHPbxR/
[01:07] <subcool> hey, i am having this issue
[01:07] <subcool> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1105596/cd-drive-not-recognized-18-04
[01:10] <sarnold> Casper26: weird, I've never seen that one before; try the apt command again?
[01:12] <subcool> i kept digging...
[01:12] <subcool> https://itsfoss.com/play-dvd-ubuntu-1310/
[01:13] <subcool> ::sigh:: - usually when i cant fidn the answer to a stupid q. - its being aim asking the question wrong, and no one wants to help. So i dig further until i find out i just had the wrong lead. today im lucky- i found it quick.
[01:13] <subcool> ::sigh::
[01:13] <subcool> thanks for the ears though!
[01:22] <subcool> stand corrected- still not working
[01:29] <subcool> playing darts here
[01:29] <subcool> https://superuser.com/questions/264465/my-dvd-rom-is-not-showing-up-in-media-or-in-mount-for-ubuntu-10-10
[01:29] <subcool> giving this a whirl
[01:29] <subcool> brb- rebooting
[01:41] <subcool> help
[01:41] <sarnold> subcool: what's wrong?
[01:43] <subcool> my cdrom wont show up or mount
[01:44] <sarnold> is it usb or sata?
[01:44] <subcool> sata
[01:44] <sarnold> dang that means you can't just yank it, heh
[01:44] <sarnold> pastebin your dmesg?
[01:45] <subcool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bKDtMb6yWH/
[01:49] <sarnold> subcool: oh wow, the last hundred lines or so look pretty sad :/ was a disc in the drive at that time?
[01:49] <subcool> yeah
[01:49] <tomreyn> "[sr0] scsi3-mmc drive: 188x/188x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray". "Add. Sense: Incompatible medium installed". blueray disk in dvd drive maybe?
[01:49] <sarnold> dang
[01:49] <sarnold> ooh good question
[01:49] <subcool> tell me my drive isnt blue ray
[01:50] <subcool> dvd-ram
[01:50] <subcool> lol
[01:50] <subcool> my gf grabed a bluray
[01:50] <subcool> hahahahahhahahaha
[01:50] <tomreyn> :)
[01:51] <subcool> ::SIGH::
[01:51] <subcool> THANKS!!
[01:58] <Casper26> sarnold apt fails
[01:59] <sarnold> Casper26: how about 'ua status'? does that do anything useful?
[02:02] <Casper26> sarnold: Not that i can tell
[02:04] <sarnold> Casper26: is esm.ubuntu.com in the configured sources?
[02:05] <ProgRam> how do i download a firefox send file?
[02:06] <Casper26> sarnold: No
[02:08] <sarnold> Casper26: hmm; perhaps this machine hasn't been enrolled into ESM yet
[02:24] <pragmaticenigma> ProgRam, I would assume you need to open the link with Firefox (likely the latest version) which will recognize the link and provide you with a dialog to download the file locally
[02:25] <fcanela> hello, trying to install a package called "ls++" I performed a "sudo apt-get install ls++", somehow it managed to mark tons of package as candidate to be installed, also raising lots of conflicts and a beautiful "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." at the end
[02:25] <pragmaticenigma> ProgRam, Or look at the help: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/send-files-anyone-securely-firefox-send
[02:26] <fcanela> nothing started to download or install. My shell is "zsh". I would appreciate any suggestion about what could have happened and if there is any way to say apt that I no longer want to install a thing
[02:27] <pragmaticenigma> fcanela, you will have to file a bug on launchpad
[02:27] <fcanela> I will try to reproduce my steps later in a virtual machine to ensure there is something wrong in Ubuntu and not my setup
[02:28] <fcanela> currently I am trying to get my system back to normal and understand what happened
[02:28] <Bashing-om> !info ls++
[02:28] <pragmaticenigma> fcanela, I attempted to run the same command and got a screen full of dependency issues
[02:28] <fcanela> oh no, please, dont try to repeat the command :(
[02:29] <fcanela> I hope you don't messed up your system, @pragmaticenigma
[02:29] <pragmaticenigma> nope... system is just fine
[02:30] <pragmaticenigma> fcanela, actually... not a bug
[02:31] <fcanela> nice, @pragmaticenigma :) I was able to reproduce to a brand new kubuntu 18.04 using bash, so it seems it's easy to reproduce in different envs. I'll try to know what that ++ is doing there
[02:31] <leftyfb> fcanela: ls++ is not available in the Ubuntu repo's. You'll need to contact the developer for support
[02:31] <fcanela> leftyfb: yes, it seems so, no worries about that, I can install it manually... but I didn't expected the party that apt started when running the command
[02:32] <pragmaticenigma> fcanela, looking through all the text... the "+" symbol is a wild card... by issuing the command ls++ you are attempting to install all aplications with "ls" in them
[02:32] <sarnold> $ apt-cache show ls++ | grep ^Package | wc -l
[02:32] <sarnold> 2741
[02:32] <sarnold> I knew this 'lets treat it as a regex' thing was a bad idea the first time I heard about it
[02:32] <leftyfb> boy that'll do some damage
[02:32] <fcanela> oh, nice insight! that makes sense, thanks!
[02:33] <fcanela> I suppose it's always nice having some ls tooling (/s)
[02:33] <pragmaticenigma> fcanela, Are you attempting to install LS_COLORS?
[02:34] <fcanela> curiosly g++ doesn't raise any problem
[02:34] <fcanela> I just wanted to try this package: https://github.com/trapd00r/ls--
[02:34] <sarnold> that package name exists, so it doesn't fall back to regex
[02:34] <pragmaticenigma> g++ succeeds because there is an exact match
[02:35] <fcanela> in the install instructions it suggest installing via apt as I did
[02:36] <myuser> My MB does not detect my Ubuntu ESP partition. Is there some sort of spec sheet to make sure it was created correctly?
[05:02] <stunts513>  I just switched to Ubuntu Server 19.10 since it has a way more up to date version of qemu-kvm(v4 as opposed to v2.12) than centos, i use gpu passthrough but every time i enable the code 43 workaround you need for nvidia cards, i get a bsod. Any ideas on a workaround? And i should mention i did enable the ioapic driver=kvm already, it didn't help.
[05:50] <badsektur> bro my win10 was booting faster than this
[06:08] <Rockwood> hi
[06:08] <Rockwood> i ve 2 versions php on my server
[06:08] <Rockwood> i wanna manually select version for use
[06:08] <Rockwood> is possible?
[07:26] <Kharec> 'morning
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> stunts513: you can try #ubuntu-server if you like
[09:17] <elekktron> Hello, I was wondering if there will be any significant performance change in using Live Ubuntu from a USB and Ubuntu installed on an HDD?
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> elekktron: a question more for #ubuntu-discuss perhaps?
[09:18] <elekktron> sorry
[09:39] <TJ-> Can anyone recommend a CPU/thermal stress-testing tool that'll record to a DB/CSV so the results can be saved and plotted? 'stress' doesn't appear to have a recording option
[09:40] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: maybe phoronix test suite got something usefull?
[10:04] <isomari> greeting, I'v enabled my sysrq key bt when I try to run any sysrq command, nothing happens.
[10:12] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: yeah, we swa that but it isn't in the archives any more (if it ever was)
[10:22] <gulzar> HI. I have ubuntu 18.04 desktop intel machine with intel for VGA and NVidia K20 for GPU (no output port, only for calculations). I am trying to install cuda on this machine. I tried installing nvidia-cuda-toolkit package with apt but it doesn't turn ON the cuda, samples failed and no vidia driver was installed with it. I tried https://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/cuda-installation-guide-linux/index.html guide. Installation works . nvidia-smi shows Tesla k20c off
[10:22] <gulzar> driver version 418.87  .  I was not able to login via gdm. Diabled gdm. tried startx . Error is Fatal server error No screen found  . How to solve this?
[10:23] <gulzar> Kernel version is 5
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> gulzar: doublecheck your steps with https://ingowald.blog/installing-the-latest-nvidia-driver-cuda-and-optix-on-linux-ubuntu-18-04/
[10:32] <lotuspsychje> think that might be a sane tutorial
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> gulzar: also dont use startx, thats not reccomended anymore these days
[10:34] <gulzar> lotuspsychje: this tut is different. I followed offical nvidia guide. Will try these steps also.
[10:34] <gulzar> lotuspsychje: how to startx?
[11:17] <gulzar> tried that tut. it's ultimtely the same thing. Same error, no screen found
[11:19] <Hercules> when I lower the brightness from maximum, screen making some noise
[11:19] <Hercules> I have AMD Radeon graphics
[11:24] <gulzar> anyone can help with intel VGA and nvidia cuda? Can't do startx. Screen found butn one have a usable confiuration No screen found.
[11:42] <BluesKaj> hi folks
[11:52] <Hercules> Whenever I change brightness to low, sometimes it makes noisy sound, very low but can be heard. It didn't happen when I had windows installed, what could be the issue? I updated all drivers? This is my first time ubuntu on physical installation
[12:00] <Hercules> https://youtu.be/r_J1pdxVW3E
[12:00] <Hercules> Noise can be listened in video too, and on increasing brightness to max it disappears
[12:08] <Hercules> I think it's called "whining LCD monitor"
[12:41] <pa> hi
[12:42] <pa> so i just installed a 19.10
[12:42] <pa> i am having a problem with nxclient 3.5.0
[12:42] <pa> essentially it cannot connect to the server anymore
[12:42] <pa> i set it up exactly in the same way as i did in my 18.04
[12:43] <pa> debugging it, it seems that the nxclient can't pick up after nxssh returns 105
[12:44] <pa> in 18.04 what happens is that the client receives from nxssh that it has connected
[12:44] <pa> in 19.04 i see a "StopConnection" called
[12:44] <pa> i think it must be something in the system
[12:44] <pa> btw this happens with both "ubuntu" DM and plasma
[12:44] <pa> so likely unrelated to the DM
[13:09] <leftyfb> !info nomachine
[13:09] <leftyfb> !info nxclient
[13:10] <leftyfb> pa: sorry, but nomachine/nxclient isn't available as part of the officially support packages for Ubuntu. You'll need to seek support from nomachine.
[13:21] <pragmaticenigma> leftyfb: nomachine and nxclient are part of FreeNX ... which is(/has been) provided : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[13:22] <pragmaticenigma> actually correction... helps to read the documentation
[13:22] <leftyfb> pragmaticenigma: that link suggests installing from PPA
[13:22] <pragmaticenigma> yeah... just got to that part
[13:23] <leftyfb> It's not in any of the apt or snap repo's. I looked
[14:43] <lyr> Hi guys
[14:44] <lotuspsychje_> welcome lyr
[14:44] <lyr> Trying to install a Dell XPS with 19.10. The "normal" live mode freeze after a minute or so, most likely the nvidia going south. The safe mode (aka nomodeset) go on a black screen before reaching live. Any idea about the latest ?
[14:45] <lyr> With 19.04 I managed to install using nomodeset + acpi=off, but 19.10 goes kernel panic on acpi=off
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> lyr: whats your card chipset please?
[14:46] <lyr> i7 9750H with embedded video controler UHD graphics 630
[14:47] <tomreyn> so no nvidia graphics?
[14:47] <lyr> yes there's one, searching for the exact referenc
[14:47] <tomreyn> !bootlog
[14:48] <lyr> NVIDIA Quadro K3000M
[14:49] <tomreyn> that's 2012-ish apparently, so the problem won't be that it's very recent hardware, i assume
[14:49] <lyr> Secure boot is disabled, boot mode UEFI, and hard drive parameters whose name I forgot is AHPI
[14:49] <tomreyn> AHCI?
[14:50] <tomreyn> So "SATA mode" is not "RAID", good.
[14:50] <lyr> indeed tomreyn
[14:50] <lyr> wait, bad NVidia
[14:50] <lyr> looked at the bill from my previous laptop
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> lyr: when you say freeze, total nothing, or flickering screen, or black screen?
[14:51] <tomreyn> hehe
[14:51] <lyr> NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650
[14:51] <lyr> freeze is total when running live in normal mode : screen still displaying, nothing move
[14:52] <lyr> no input works at all, ctrl-c, mouse, nothing happens
[14:52] <lyr> gotta ahrd reset with power button
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> lyr: its common for GTX cards to have black screens, but normally !nomodeset can bypass this, to be able to install the proper nvidia driver
[14:52] <lyr> gonna try the debug systemd.log_level=info
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> lyr: if the stock ubuntu driver fails somehow, you can try the ubuntu graphics ppa for GTX cards
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | lyr
[14:57] <tomreyn> lyr: there were some reports that people with nvidias got aroudn the black screen by choosing the "Install Ubuntu (safe graphics)" option, so booting directly to the installer, not the live disk, with the nomodeset (i.e. "safe graphics") parameter. so this is maybe the easiest thing to try.
[14:57] <lyr> lotuspsychje, I know about this, but I've no stable live environment to do so
[14:57] <tomreyn> s/live disk/live system/
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> lyr: uefi settings can also influence your hardware, so another idea to test
[14:59] <tomreyn> yet another option would be the "recovery" parameter, to boot to the text menu, enable networking, and examine the situation furhter.
[15:00] <lyr> so trying live with nomodeset, I had the time to see the log reaching "Starting Gnome display manager ..." and other systemd targets like network is online, etc
[15:01] <lyr> going straight away for the safe graphics installation end up on a black screen too, before any menu happens
[15:01] <tomreyn> ah, pity, so "recovery" then
[15:01] <tomreyn> try to attach ethernet if you haven't
[15:01] <tomreyn> wireless is harder to get working
[15:02] <lyr> I know network's most likely not gonna work since there's a shitty network card (last time ever I go for a dell), but I've the fix for that
[15:03] <sjt003> has anyone used dbus signals to check what usb device are being connected/disconnected?
[15:03] <tomreyn> lyr: by the time you reach the recovery shell: if you have a non-english keyboard layout, use the "loadkeys XX" command, replacing XX by the two letter language code
[15:04] <lyr> thanks for the reminder tomreyn
[15:04] <tomreyn> lyr: an usb-ethernet dongle can also help if you have that, or a smartphone set to tethering wireless, attached to the computert via usb wire.
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> sjt003: can you provide a bit more details of your specifix problem, whats happening to your system and usb devices exactly?
[15:07] <lyr> ooo kay seems I managed to dodge the kernel panic using a 18.04 live and "acpi=off nomodeset"
[15:08] <tomreyn> but that's not 19.10 ;)
[15:08] <tomreyn> but this will enable you to tell us what    journalctl -b | grep 'DMI:'    reports, or to post a full log    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:09] <sjt003> lotuspsychje: specifically need to use dbus signals to determine which device was connected, so that I can restart some services upon disconnect / reconnect. I'm able to use the dbus interface but I receive only the name of the device in major:minor format like 1:2701 or something like that. not very useful for telling which device was connected.
[15:13] <tomreyn> lyr: still around?
[15:14] <lyr> yes
[15:14] <sjt003> lotuspsychje, I've been using this interface: interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.ObjectManager;
[15:15] <nixfreak> Morning , I'm looking for a way to create a fully automated Ubuntu 16 install with extra packages but has to be offline and all network , samba / cifs shares , are already configured
[15:15] <tomreyn> lyr: so you'll install 18.04 instead?
[15:15] <tomreyn> !YY.MM | nixfreak
[15:16] <pragmaticenigma> nixfreak: Also note, if you are running Ubuntu 16.04, it is starting to move towards EOL... would recommend 18.04 for new installations
[15:16] <nixfreak> Morning , I'm looking for a way to create a fully automated Ubuntu Ubuntu 16.04 LTS  with extra packages but has to be offline and all network , samba / cifs shares , are already configured
[15:17] <nixfreak> yeah that software is only tested  for 16.04 LTS right now
[15:17] <lyr> tomreyn I need an OS working
[15:18] <lyr> I'm the SRE guy at my company & there's a new infrastructure coming out late january. My laptop bitting back at me is like irony over 9000 x___x
[15:20] <nixfreak> is this what I should be looking at ? https://askubuntu.com/questions/122505/how-do-i-create-a-completely-unattended-install-of-ubuntu
[15:20] <tomreyn> lyr: i didn't mean to citicise you for installing ubuntu 18.04 instead of 19.10, but just to understand what you're up to and whether you're still looking for assistence.
[15:21] <lyr> tomreyn sure, my bad, a bit jumpy atm
[15:21] <lyr> gosh, now that's the grub install issue
[15:21] <tomreyn> lyr: i would recommend that your company enters a commercial support contract with some entity offering that for ubuntu in the future.
[15:22] <pragmaticenigma> nixfreak: that can work, but assumes that you have created an ISO image with all the packages you would like. Or that the system being installed has internet access
[15:23] <tomreyn> + have local support staff for your computers, so you don't need to deal with 'the basics'
[15:23] <nixfreak> yeah i need something that is a offline repo , or I can customize an iso with all packages and configurations without a net connection
[15:23] <pragmaticenigma> nixfreak: then I think you found your answer
[15:23] <lyr> tomreyn on the topic, I'ld go for a safer hardware. Like system76's, or older stuff
[15:23] <tomreyn> nixfreak: not an official document but this could work for you: https://www.neteye-blog.com/2018/06/custom-ubuntu-iso-image-for-unattended-and-offline-installation/
[15:24] <lyr> my bad going for a recent XPS, wanted the RAM for ansible / molecule test
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> lyr: dell is known to be linux/ubuntu friendly..
[15:24] <ioria> lyr, it should work with kernel 5.3 out of the box
[15:24] <nixfreak> thanks tomreyn I'll looking into this
[15:25] <nixfreak> thanks tomreyn I'll look into this
[15:27] <lyr> ioria, which kernel 19.10 is running ?
[15:27] <ioria> lyr, 5.3
[15:27] <ioria> !info linux-generic eoan | lyr
[15:28] <lyr> well didn't do the trick
[15:28] <lyr> I wonder if the issue is around 19.10 shipping NVidia drivers
[15:28] <ioria> lyr, boot the live with  'modprobe.blacklist:intel_lpss_pci  '
[15:29] <tomreyn> or modprobe.blacklist=intel_lpss_pci ?
[15:29] <artiemog> So I've discovered something interesting: `ls` seems to still think that it's 2019
[15:29] <lyr> with or without nomodeset ?
[15:30] <ioria> lyr, yeah, modprobe.blacklist=intel_lpss_pci
[15:30] <ioria> lyr, that too
[15:30] <artiemog> if I run `ll` in a directory with files from 2019 and 2020, it shows month day time for the 2019 files but month day year for the 2020 files
[15:30] <artiemog> Anyone know why that would happen?
[15:31] <artiemog> (also sorry for butting in)
[15:32] <tomreyn> artiemog: and     date    reports what?
[15:33] <lyr> ioria, I think I love you
[15:33] <ioria> lyr, really ?
[15:34] <lyr> the blacklist option give me a stable live (with nomodeset) on 19.10
[15:34] <ioria> lyr, btw, probably we'll get some issue with wifi and camera
[15:34] <ioria> *s
[15:35] <lyr> gonna see that next, this XPS already had issue with the whole network card anyway
[15:35] <ioria> hopefully not
[15:35] <artiemog> tomreyn: the date is correct
[15:35] <lyr> can only be better
[15:37] <lyr> just, can you explain me what's the blacklist disable exactly, the shipped intel video card support ? or the proprietary drivers for nvidia ?
[15:37] <tomreyn> lyr: (upstream) kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-1 apparently works around this dell xps specific problem, so you can try upgrading to this or a higher kernel version after installation, if needed. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dell_XPS_13_2-in-1_(7390)#Intel_LPSS
[15:37] <tomreyn> artiemog: okay, it was worth a try. not sure what's causing it, then.
[15:37] <ioria> lyr, turing chip is almost supported by 5.3 kernel; the other option i guess is still required
[15:40] <artiemog> tomreyn: I kinda suspect a bug in `ls`
[15:40] <artiemog> especially since I'm on LTS
[15:40] <ioria> lyr, see if you can install 3d party sw , if not you'll intall nvidia later; the problem is the wifi card; do you have a eth cable at hand ?
[15:40] <artiemog> can anyone else reproduce what I'm seeing?
[15:40] <tomreyn> artiemog: that's not the expectation i'd have first of all. but you can always file a bug (but try to search the web about it first)
[15:41] <artiemog> Just tried it on my Debian machine and it's showing times for both the 2019 and 2020 files
[15:41] <tomreyn> artiemog: i'm on 18.04.3 LTS with linux 5.3 here, don't see this behaviour on an ext4 file system
[15:42] <artiemog> hmm, maybe it's because this partition is NTFS
[15:42] <artiemog> let me try it on ext4
[15:44] <fn2020> shivam_, glad it worked
[15:44] <tomreyn> lyr / ioria: just FYI, LPSS is intels' "low power subsystem", which, amongst other, can manage a touchscreen (based on the little bit i could quickly grasp about it)
[15:44] <fn2020> shivam_, enjoy ubuntu, arch btw <3
[15:45] <artiemog> okay yeah this is quite interesting
[15:45] <artiemog> on NTFS it behaves the same as my Debian machine
[15:45] <artiemog> er
[15:45] <artiemog> on ext4 it behaves the same as my Debian machine
[15:45] <artiemog> but I have the weirdness on NTFS
[15:46] <lyr> ioria the wifi is working fine (wasn't in 19.04, had to recompile it now and then after apt upgrade, which ended up breaking the OS yesterday somehow)
[15:46] <ioria> lyr, that's good
[15:46] <lyr> I disabled the touchscreen in the bios
[15:46] <lyr> Touchpad is working too (wasn't in 18.04)
[15:47] <tomreyn> lyr: possibly related - the 19.10 kernel on the live iso will be older, but the one on the installed system, after updates, should have the patch: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1845584
[15:47] <lyr> the special key + screen light up / down combination isn't working, though I don't care
[15:47] <ioria> lyr, can you check the camera ?
[15:49] <lyr> ioria working
[15:49] <ioria> lyr, great. the funcion key problem might be solved with 'acpi_osi= ' in the kernel line
[15:51] <ioria> lyr, and probably with GTX 1650 you want nvidia installed
[15:54] <artiemog> anyway thanks for humouring me tomreyn :P
[15:57] <lyr> I'll give it a shot later on ioria
[15:57] <lyr> Many thanks again ioria & tomreyn too
[15:58] <lyr> I wrote most of the idea in https://github.com/JackHack96/dell-xps-9570-ubuntu-respin/issues/108 if needed
[15:59] <lyr> Gonna setup all my stuff now
[16:05] <ioria> lyr, ok
[17:09] <funhouse> Hi, working on a aws instance, I'm trying to get the ip address but when i do `ip` I only get the LAN ip, is there another way to do this?
[17:12] <OerHeks> www.whatismyip.com or curl https://ipinfo.io/ip
[17:20] <sjt003> why are USB signals (disconnect/connect) showing up in org.gnome.Mutter.IdleMonitor in dbus
[17:21] <pragmaticenigma> potentially for the information toaster popup to indicate that a drive has been added or removed from the system?
[17:22] <sjt003> pragmaticenigma, good point
[17:25] <sjt003> is there a better way than through dbus to get access to usb events?
[17:25] <pragmaticenigma> udev
[17:25] <sjt003> in ruby ... rudev lib? pragmaticenigma
[17:30] <pragmaticenigma> I'm not familiar with udev to be able to answer that. I just know from trying to figure out if I could programatically see a USB drive mount and auto-trigger a rsync job
[17:30] <pragmaticenigma> that was the recommended approach to detection. My install of Ubuntu has a different issue that makes that option for me not work
[17:58] <Modulo5k> Hello, I'm trying to run a process using sudo, and when I do, std::out disappears
[17:59] <ioria> tee
[18:00] <Modulo5k> I also sometimes get a mysterious message, "Failed: command not found"
[18:02] <Modulo5k> The exact command I'm running is "`sudo LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/Eagle/lib:/usr/local/allegro525/lib:/usr/local/nilorea/lib ./KrampusServerDebug`"
[18:12] <tomreyn> Modulo5k: this doesn't seem like a problem this channel can help with. maybe contact the developers of the software (and libraries) you're using.
[18:12] <tomreyn> it does not seem like any of these are part of ubuntu
[18:12] <Modulo5k> tomreyn: I wrote it
[18:12] <Modulo5k> It works without sudo
[18:12] <Modulo5k> but then I can't open a port for listening
[18:13] <tomreyn> /join #ubuntu-app-devel
[18:13] <Modulo5k> tomreyn: do you see anything wrong with the command I'm using?
[18:18] <ioria> Modulo5k, it's an old post, but maybe might work : http://final-world-domination.blogspot.com/2011/02/sudo-doesnt-export-ldlibrarypath.html
[18:22] <coz_> Hey, I did an OEM install if 18.04 Mate for a client, thinking thid will save me time, BUT when the client booted into the system, ALL settings, themes, etc asked for by the client were not preserved. I this usual for OEM install?
[18:23] <Modulo5k> ioria - thank you that worked
[18:23] <ioria> Modulo5k, great
[18:24] <Modulo5k> now I just have to figure out why my messages aren't being recieved.... ;P
[18:25] <EriC^^> coz_: the OEM install let's the user put the stuff upon first booting i think
[18:25] <coz_> EriC^^, mmmm not what I expecte %(
[18:25] <EriC^^> coz_: read up here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[18:26] <coz_> EriC^^, ok thanks
[18:27] <physiology> Is there a tutorial on how to connect two servers together, so that the VMs hosted on one can reach the other?
[18:28] <coz_> EriC^^, see that link states , what I expected. Which did not occur. Even some software was not preserved. So Back to the other way ") Thanks
[18:29] <Modulo5k> physiology: Try Beej's guide to networking, or use an existing library like Nilorea or Enet, etc....
[18:31] <Modulo5k> physiology: you can also use ssh to make a connection
[18:31] <Modulo5k> or just telnet
[18:31] <physiology> Modulo5k: Do I set up bridges to allow that to happen in the first place though?
[18:31] <Modulo5k> All you need is an open port and an ip address
[18:32] <physiology> Also, I assume there will need to be two sets of IP addresses, one for behind the scenes and one for the VM network connection.
[18:33] <pragmaticenigma> physiology: Depending on your VM environment, you will need to configure it to bridge the VM instance into the local network, or port forward through the VMs NAT table. These are specific to the type of VM software you are running and would require consulting their help forums for assistance
[18:34] <physiology> Okay, pragmaticenigma.  Thank you.  GNS3, btw
[18:37] <pragmaticenigma> physiology: If you're talking about Graphical Network Simulator-3... support for that is not available here. You will need to consult their forums and community for help
[18:47] <sumagna_> Hello
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> welcome sumagna_
[18:47] <sumagna_> I am having some problems while installing ubuntu lotuspsychje
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> sumagna_: ask your question to the channel please, and volunteers will help if they can
[18:48] <sumagna_> I want to dual boot ubuntu with windows 10 which is in legacy boot(if needed)
[18:48] <sumagna_> It is telling that i dont have an efi system partition
[18:50] <sumagna_> Which i am not supposed to have, since i have a legacy boot system
[18:50] <sumagna_> So how can i install it
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> sumagna_: you mean your computer doesnt have uefi?
[18:51] <EriC^^> sumagna_: boot the usb in legacy mode
[18:51] <sumagna_> Install Ubuntu, i mean
[18:51] <sumagna_> How
[18:51] <OerHeks> sounds like you started the ubuntu installer in UEFI mode ..
[18:51] <sumagna_> My computer has uefi but if i disable it windows stops working
[18:51] <EriC^^> sumagna_: go to your laptops boot options and select that usb legacy mode priority over usb uefi, or manually select it from the one time boot options menu
[18:52] <EriC^^> sumagna_: that sounds like windows is in uefi mode, can you pastebin 'sudo parted -ls' please?
[18:52] <sumagna_> Wait i am gonna try to do that
[18:52] <sumagna_> I don't have uefi in windows
[18:53] <EriC^^> if you pastebin that we can get a clear picture
[18:53] <sumagna_> It says legacy boot
[18:53] <EriC^^> otherwise we're just guessing like idiots
[18:53] <sumagna_> By the way, i had ubuntu before on this computer and i accidentally deleted it's partition
[18:54] <Modulo5k> Is there any reason sleep(1) wouldn't return on Ubuntu?
[18:54] <EriC^^> is that why you want to reinstall? sumagna_
[18:54] <sumagna_> Yea
[18:54] <Modulo5k> my threads are all hanging in the wind
[18:54] <EriC^^> you can probably restore ubuntu easily with no missing stuff
[18:54] <sumagna_> How
[18:55] <EriC^^> sumagna_: when you delete the partition, the filesystem is still there, it's just not listed in the partition table anymore
[18:55] <EriC^^> start by pastebinning 'sudo parted -ls'
[18:55] <sumagna_> Ol
[18:55] <sumagna_> Ok
[18:55] <sumagna_> Wait
[18:56] <sumagna_> I am starting the live usb
[18:57] <sumagna_> And also the live usb contains the efi folder only and nothing else
[18:57] <EriC^^> yeah, that's normal
[18:58] <adac> Guys in bionic, how can I install smartmontools 7.0?
[18:58] <adac> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/smartmontools
[18:58] <sumagna_> By the way, i am messaging from mobile so there might be some delays
[18:59] <EriC^^> no worries
[18:59] <EriC^^> !info smartmontools bionic
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> !latest | adac
[19:00] <EriC^^> adac: why do you want 7.0?
[19:01] <sumagna_> https://pastebin.com/v5KWsgMj
[19:01] <sumagna_> The link
[19:01] <sumagna_> This is my output
[19:01] <adac> EriC^^, with a new hard disk different model then before I run into this issue: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=924892
[19:01] <adac> [19:01] <adac> Read NVMe SMART/Health Information failed: NVMe Status 0x4002
[19:03] <EriC^^> adac: there's a list of args you can use, might be helpful not sure https://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/Supported_USB-Devices
[19:03] <sumagna_> So any help you got from the output?
[19:04] <EriC^^> sumagna_: yeah, first you're using legacy as you said, not uefi, 2nd there seems to be a ext4 filesystem, did you reinstall ubuntu at any point after you deleted the partition you said you did?
[19:05] <sumagna_> That's another partition i made for myself to keep my things in ubuntu
[19:05] <sumagna_> /dev/sda2, it is
[19:06] <EriC^^> sumagna_: ah i see, ok, can you type "sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print" and pastebin?
[19:06] <EriC^^> sumagna_: btw you can do "sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print | nc termbin.com 9999" and it will pastebin it for you and give a link back
[19:07] <adac> !backports
[19:07] <sumagna_> termbin.com/fnva
[19:08] <adac> Can i install a single package from backports?
[19:08] <adac> Is that possible? If yes how?
[19:09] <leftyfb> sudo apt install -t backports <package_name>
[19:09] <leftyfb> you'll need to enable the repo. Then disable it if you like
[19:09] <EriC^^> sumagna_: try "sudo mount -o offset=$((1748719616 * 512)) /dev/sda /mnt"
[19:11] <sumagna_> Wait i am going to pastebin and send the link
[19:12] <adac> leftyfb, thanks!
[19:13] <sumagna_> pastebin.com/pJ92xuCz
[19:15] <balln> hello! having issues on a fresh kubuntu 18.04 installation, any help much appreciated. audio (speakers via xonar u5 external card, everything set to 100% in pulseaudio) is very quiet compared to windows. and experiencing poor fps in games and even watching fullscreen videos, with gtx1060, using recommended nvidia-driver-435.
[19:15] <EriC^^> sumagna_: my guess is that there was an extended partition that had ubuntu + the swap
[19:15] <sumagna_> Yeah
[19:16] <sumagna_> If you are talking about the previous installation
[19:16] <EriC^^> sumagna_: you can use testdisk to find their location and restore them, type "sudo add-apt-repository universe && sudo apt-get update"
[19:16] <EriC^^> then "sudo apt-get install testdisk"
[19:16] <sumagna_> How to do that
[19:16] <sumagna_> Ok wait
[19:16] <sumagna_> From the live usb?
[19:17] <EriC^^> yes
[19:17] <sumagna_> And can you please assure me that it is not gonna mess up my windows 10 installation
[19:18] <sumagna_> And i have the live usb with ubuntu 19.04
[19:18] <sumagna_> Please assure me or else i am not gonna restore the partitions
[19:19] <sumagna_> *partition
[19:19] <sumagna_> EriC^^:  please assure me
[19:20] <EriC^^> sumagna_: well, if you dont have a backup of the windows, then maybe it's better not to mess with testdisk, just in case, anyways i do have another idea which doesn't involve testdisk and is simpler
[19:20] <sumagna_> I don't have a backup
[19:21] <EriC^^> sumagna_: the idea is that we can guess the location of the ubuntu partition, it's like right after where we just tried looking, once we mount it, we can create a partition in that location, that encompasses the rest of the disk, then we can run a command that will expand the filesystem to take up all the remaining space, and you can create a swap file instead of a swap partition, which is the same really
[19:22] <EriC^^> that way you don't need to have an extended partition to be able to have 5 partitions, you'll have 4, and we dont need to risk messing with testdisk at all, no risk on windows basically
[19:22] <sumagna_> Are you talking about the previous partition, the deleted one?
[19:22] <sumagna_> Actually i am not gonna just tell you half the story
[19:22] <EriC^^> yeah i've been trying to restore it, isnt that the plan?
[19:23] <adac> leftyfb, I now installed it like this: "apt-get install smartmontools/bionic-backports"
[19:23] <sumagna_> My father uses this laptop and he can't use ubuntu that much
[19:23] <sumagna_> Yes thats the plan
[19:23] <EriC^^> sumagna_: gotcha, no worries
[19:23] <adac> which worked. Is backports now enabled? How can I check if it is?
[19:23] <isene> I tried to do an upgrade via update-manager from 18.10 to 19.04 (will do 19.10 when this is done). After downloading all packages, it hung on installing libcap-ng0. For ages.  Then I ran an update from the terminal (as update-manager refused to start). This is now complete. Last time I had a similar situation (can't quite remember exactly what), I had an unbootable system.
[19:23] <isene> Update.manager is now running again fine and it's telling me I should reboot the system. Being a bit cautious, I wanted to ask here if there is anything I should check or do before I go ahead and attempt a restart?
[19:25] <sumagna_> And also the other story is that i didn't accidentally delete it
[19:25] <sumagna_> But i eanted to install fedora for my GCI work
[19:25] <sumagna_> As i was going to work for them
[19:27] <EriC^^> sumagna_: i dont really care if you want to install another os, it's up to you, but to be clear you did just delete the partition right? you didn't install anything in its place or something? cause that would corrupt its filesystem
[19:27] <sumagna_> Nope
[19:27] <sumagna_> Tried to install fedora in its place
[19:28] <EriC^^> tried or did it actually start installing/copying?
[19:28] <EriC^^> i mean if your dad rarely uses ubuntu, then i guess there's not much customization or files there? so a fresh install wouldn't be that bad?
[19:28] <sumagna_> But it only made the partition and installed the files, i think but it couldn't install the bootloader
[19:28] <sumagna_> Nope
[19:28] <sumagna_> A fresh install wouldn't be that
[19:29] <sumagna_> Bad
[19:29] <sumagna_> I will customize it to my taste again
[19:29] <sumagna_> But i just want it to install, that's all
[19:29] <EriC^^> alright sounds good, i think ubuntu is probably corrupted if it installed files, so it's an easier option to reinstall
[19:30] <sumagna_> Yes
[19:30] <EriC^^> sumagna_: ok, here's what we can do, you can start the installer without the bootloader installation process
[19:30] <sumagna_> I just want to install it
[19:30] <sumagna_> How?
[19:30] <EriC^^> that way you won't get any efi partition missing or any crap, after it's done we can manually install the grub for legacy mode and you should be good
[19:30] <EriC^^> sumagna_: type "ubiquity -b"
[19:30] <oldominion> Hello guys, is there a way to remove the text under the desktop icons? I googled something but it's old and didn't work anymore, tried the dconf editor too without success, I have Ubuntu 19.10 with Gnome
[19:30] <oldominion> i left the trash icon on the desktop but i dont like the text beneath it
[19:31] <sumagna_> This won't mess up the windows installation, right?
[19:31] <EriC^^> sumagna_: yeah, it shouldn't
[19:31] <sumagna_> By the way, what is the -b option for?
[19:31] <EriC^^> to not install a bootloader
[19:31] <sumagna_> Ok
[19:32] <sumagna_> The screen has come up
[19:32] <sumagna_> What now?
[19:32] <EriC^^> ok, install as usual, when it asks for location you should have a 'install alongside windows' choose that
[19:32] <martiansoul> oldominion https://askubuntu.com/questions/23570/how-can-i-hide-the-text-under-the-desktop-icons
[19:32] <sumagna_> Should i select everything i need and tell you when i am at the installation type screen?
[19:33] <sumagna_> It didn't come the other times before when i tried
[19:33] <EriC^^> sumagna_: ok when it comes up let me know what it says
[19:34] <oldominion> @martiansoul that is what i did, Ubuntu 0 did nothing
[19:34] <sumagna_> And i didn't select the download updates while installing ubuntu option
[19:34] <EriC^^> no worries
[19:34] <sumagna_> Ok
[19:35] <sumagna_> It says "no operating systems detected"
[19:35] <sumagna_> So there is no install alongside windows option
[19:36] <EriC^^> sumagna_: ok, no worries, press on 'something else' it should let you partition yourself
[19:36] <sumagna_> Ok now?
[19:36] <EriC^^> sumagna_: press the + sign and create a single partition at the bottom
[19:36] <oldominion> @martiansoul there isn't even "desktop" in the dconf editor which I just downloaded
[19:36] <sumagna_> I have the free space still which i got from deleting the previous ubuntu partition
[19:37] <sumagna_> That one is at the bottom
[19:37] <EriC^^> sumagna_: yeah, you should select ext4 as the filesystem and the mountpoint as "/"
[19:37] <sumagna_> What options should i select?
[19:37] <sumagna_> The whole thing?
[19:37] <sumagna_> For root?
[19:38] <sumagna_> Type for the new partition : logical/primary?
[19:38] <sumagna_> Location for the new partition : beginning/end of the space?
[19:38] <EriC^^> sumagna_: beginning of space, select primary
[19:39] <sumagna_> Done
[19:39] <sumagna_> Now i should press ok
[19:39] <madflavor> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9GKcLykm/IMG_3947.JPG
[19:39] <EriC^^> sumagna_: ok, yeah go for it
[19:39] <madflavor> what do i do about this?
[19:39] <EriC^^> sumagna_: it might say something about "no swap" press continue
[19:39] <sumagna_> Ok
[19:39] <madflavor> system won’t boot at all
[19:39] <sumagna_> It is scanning disks now
[19:40] <madflavor> do i just wait?
[19:40] <sumagna_> Yes i think so
[19:40] <madflavor> it’s taking quite a while
[19:40] <sumagna_> By the way now i am going to press install now, right?
[19:40] <madflavor> also i removed python3 :(
[19:40] <EriC^^> sumagna_: yeah
[19:41] <sumagna_> It is still saying no efi system partition found
[19:41] <EriC^^> sumagna_: press continue
[19:41] <EriC^^> i think it's just a warning
[19:41] <sumagna_> You sure?
[19:41] <EriC^^> sumagna_: yes
[19:41] <sumagna_> It also says
[19:42] <sumagna_> This system will not likely be able to boot successfully, and the installation may fail
[19:42] <sumagna_> So now what?
[19:42] <sumagna_> Continue still?
[19:42] <EriC^^> sumagna_: yes :D
[19:43] <sumagna_> It now says that it is required to create a seperat e partition for bootloader
[19:44] <sumagna_> Continue?
[19:44] <madflavor> sumagna_: doesn’t the lvm not found message worry you?
[19:44] <sumagna_> I never had one
[19:44] <puff> Good afternoon.  Unity is no longer the default WM for ubuntu, right?  Is it available as an alternative?
[19:44] <sumagna_> Error message like that
[19:44] <EriC^^> sumagna_: are you sure you ran "ubiquity -b" to launch the installer?
[19:44] <sumagna_> Yea
[19:45] <sumagna_> There is no selection area for bootloader installation device
[19:45] <puff> A non-geek friend bot his hands on a 7 year old laptop that runs knoppix and is considering giving linux a try.  Some of his friends suggested he check out ubuntu, somebody specifically suggested unity because it's more windows flavored.  I've been running xubuntu because I didn't like unity and it also seemed to bog down my system, so I'mout of date.
[19:45] <EriC^^> sumagna_: ok, are you able to press continue?
[19:45] <sumagna_> Yes
[19:45] <EriC^^> ok go for it
[19:45] <sumagna_> I am going to write the changes to the disks, right?
[19:46] <EriC^^> sumagna_: copy that
[19:46] <sumagna_> Ok or not ok?
[19:46] <EriC^^> yes
[19:46] <sumagna_> Ok
[19:46] <puff> Also, has this changed or are you still able to just install the different desktop packages and then choose at the login screen which one to use?
[19:47] <sumagna_> My mind is not working so i couldn't understand if you were telling yes or no
[19:47] <EriC^^> puff: yes you can install a different desktop
[19:47] <EriC^^> sumagna_: all good no worries
[19:47] <puff> EriC^^: Thanks.
[19:48] <EriC^^> puff: btw unity has gone, gnome is now the default de on 18.04
[19:48] <sumagna_> Yes
[19:48] <isene> I got the upgrade from 18.10 to 19.04 mostly working. But VIM fails with "vim: error while loading shared libraries: libperl.so.5.24: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" How to fix?
[19:48] <EriC^^> i think it is still installable from the universe repository though
[19:49] <EriC^^> puff: ^
[19:49] <sumagna_> EriC^^: it is copying files now
[19:49] <OerHeks> isene, upgrade further, 19.04 will be EOL soon this month
[19:49] <sumagna_> After it is done, what am i going to do fore the bootloader?
[19:49] <EriC^^> sumagna_: sounds good, once it's done don't restart, let me know so we can install the bootloader manually
[19:49] <isene> So - just forget about the VIM issue and see if it resolves on the next level upgrade?
[19:50] <sumagna_> Btw i used the whole free space for installing ubuntu
[19:50] <isene> DerRaiden: ^^
[19:50] <sumagna_> Is that going to be a problem?
[19:50] <EriC^^> sumagna_: not at all
[19:53] <sumagna_> It is retrieving files right now
[19:53] <EriC^^> aha
[19:54] <sumagna> What "aha"?
[19:54] <EriC^^> nothing, just acknowledging
[19:55] <sumagna> 😁
[19:55] <EriC^^> :D
[19:55] <sumagna> :D
[19:57] <sumagna> It's now unpacking things
[19:58] <sumagna> Like libreoffice and all that other stuff
[19:59] <EriC^^> sounds good
[20:00] <sumagna> Ok
[20:01] <sumagna> It's now unpacking the kernel and its modules
[20:05] <sumagna> After this, what am i going to do? EriC^^
[20:06] <sumagna> The installation is near end
[20:06] <sumagna> I think
[20:07] <EriC^^> sumagna: ok, once it ends dont restart when it offers, instead press on the continue testing/restart later button
[20:07] <sumagna> Ok
[20:07] <sumagna> Post installation
[20:07] <sumagna> Step 1) don't restart
[20:13] <sumagna> EriC^^:  installation done
[20:13] <sumagna> Now what
[20:13] <sumagna> I pressed continue testing
[20:13] <EriC^^> sumagna: ok, type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:14] <sumagna> termbin.com/j4h1
[20:15] <sumagna> Now?
[20:16] <EriC^^> sumagna: sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt
[20:16] <sumagna> Done
[20:16] <EriC^^> sumagna: type the following line, word for word
[20:16] <sumagna> Ok
[20:16] <EriC^^> sumagna: for i in /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done
[20:17] <maszlo> I have ran into a puzzle that was hoping could get some kind of pointer where to look. on a 18.04 install on a desktop 'server' I have used for many many years without issue.  A power outage last week appears to created some sort of issue with the device not being able to pull a dhcp lease, but not able to even ping the gateway.
[20:17] <sumagna> Done
[20:17] <EriC^^> sumagna: sudo chroot /mnt
[20:18] <sumagna> Noe?
[20:18] <sumagna> Now?
[20:18] <EriC^^> sumagna: apt-get install grub-pc
[20:19] <sumagna> Installing
[20:19] <sumagna> Done
[20:19] <EriC^^> sumagna: type 'update-grub'
[20:20] <sumagna> Done
[20:20] <sumagna> Wait
[20:20] <EriC^^> then type 'exit' and restart the pc, boot into ubuntu
[20:20] <sumagna> It didn't say found windows 10 /dev/sda1
[20:21] <sumagna> Should i reboot?
[20:21] <sumagna> I am nervous right now
[20:21] <EriC^^> that's pretty normal cause you're in uefi mode currently
[20:21] <EriC^^> yeah reboot
[20:22] <sumagna> Ok
[20:22] <sumagna> Wish me luck
[20:22] <sumagna> Will I be able to boot into windows 10?
[20:23] <sumagna> If i wanted?
[20:23] <EriC^^> yes, boot into ubuntu first
[20:23] <sumagna> Ok
[20:23] <sumagna> It is not going into ubuntu
[20:23] <sumagna> It's going into windows
[20:24] <sumagna> It's not even showing a menu
[20:24] <EriC^^> hmm, odd
[20:24] <sumagna> Btw i have legacy boot enabled
[20:24] <EriC^^> sumagna: no worries, boot the live usb again
[20:24] <sumagna> Wait
[20:25] <sumagna> I have to shut down windows first
[20:26] <sumagna> Wait
[20:26] <sumagna> It's restarting
[20:26] <EriC^^> ok
[20:27] <sumagna> Try ubuntu?
[20:27] <EriC^^> yes
[20:27] <sflinter> Hi. Any NFS and ZFS experts out there? I'm wondering how I disable NTFv4 on Unbuntu 19.10 (server), and force NFSv3. The docs would suggest that you need to make the change in /etc/defaults/nfs-kernel-server to the RPCMOUNTDOPTS variable to add a "--no-nfs-version 4" option, but that's not working for me. Any ideas?
[20:28] <sumagna> Booted into the live usb. Now?
[20:28] <EriC^^> sumagna: same as before 1 sec
[20:28] <EriC^^> sumagna: sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt
[20:28] <EriC^^> sumagna: for i in /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done
[20:28] <EriC^^> sumagna: sudo chroot /mnt
[20:30] <sumagna> Done
[20:30] <sumagna> EriC^^:  donr
[20:30] <sumagna> Done
[20:31] <EriC^^> sumagna: type "grub-install --recheck /dev/sda"
[20:32] <sumagna> Done
[20:32] <sumagna> Again
[20:32] <EriC^^> sumagna: update-grub
[20:32] <EriC^^> sumagna: all good, no errors or anything?
[20:32] <sarnold> sflinter: did you get any error messages in dmesg? journalctl? any other logs?
[20:32] <sumagna> No
[20:32] <EriC^^> sumagna: ok, once update-grub is done, type "exit" then reboot
[20:33] <sumagna> It just sent me a warning that sector 32 is in use by flexnet
[20:33] <EriC^^> sumagna: ah, that happens sometimes, hmmm hold on
[20:33] <EriC^^> that might be why it didnt work right off the bat earlier
[20:34] <sumagna> And the grub-probe sent an error telling cannot find a grub drive for /dev/sdb1
[20:34] <sumagna> Which is the live usb
[20:34] <sumagna> So now what?
[20:34] <sflinter> @sarnold, the key error that I'm seeing is 'an 08 20:16:00 nas rpc.mountd[29478]: authenticated mount request from <IP_ADDRESS>:987 for...'
[20:34] <OerHeks> flexnet, uh oh .. https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1661254
[20:34] <sarnold> sflinter: so no errors from restarting the nfs kernel service?
[20:34] <sflinter> which suggests to me that NFS is still trying to authenticate
[20:34] <sflinter> sarnold, none that I've seen
[20:35] <sarnold> sflinter: hmm; what does tshark or similar say about the protocol in use?
[20:35] <sumagna> So what am i to do now?
[20:36] <sflinter> sarnold: actually, I've tried again, and see 'Jan 08 20:35:24 nas nfsdcltrack[29784]: Failed to init database: -13'
[20:36] <EriC^^> sumagna: question, did you notice earlier any sector 32 stuff when we did apt-get install grub-pc?
[20:37] <sumagna> Not that i remember, i think
[20:37] <sarnold> sflinter: waaaa? -13 is probably a "permission denied".
[20:38] <sarnold> sflinter: I've got to run; I'll take a look at messages when I return, but this is a bit ouf of my experience, I never really *did* nfs, it usually just worked for me..
[20:38] <EriC^^> sumagna: ok, we can erase the sector 32, it's the way to fix this flexnet stuff, let's quickly just make a very quick backup of the part we'll be touching ok, just in case
[20:38] <sumagna> So what to do
[20:38] <sflinter> sarnold: hmmm.... let me do more digging. Thanks for your time
[20:39] <sumagna> Btw i dont want windows 10 to become unbootable
[20:40] <EriC^^> sumagna: type "dd if=/dev/sda of=/mymbr.backup bs=512 count=70"
[20:40] <EriC^^> sumagna: yes no worries
[20:40] <sumagna> From the same place
[20:40] <EriC^^> sumagna: yes from the chroot
[20:40] <sumagna> Ok
[20:41] <ioria> sumagna, have you ever wondered  about the first 525MB  of your disk ?
[20:41] <sumagna> Yea
[20:41] <ioria> yeah
[20:41] <EriC^^> sumagna: ok done?
[20:41] <sumagna> Yes
[20:42] <EriC^^> sumagna: type "parted /dev/sda unit s print | nc termbin.com 9999"
[20:42] <EriC^^> just so we have a backup of the table incase we need to access the ubuntu partition
[20:42] <sumagna> Ok
[20:43] <EriC^^> copy the link here
[20:43] <sumagna> Wait
[20:43] <sumagna> termbin.com/xfyc
[20:44] <sumagna> Here ^
[20:44] <EriC^^> sumagna: ok, now to remove the sector 32, type "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 seek=32"
[20:44] <isene> My upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10 hangs update-manager on "Setting up grub-efi-amd64 (2.04-1ubuntu12.1) ..." What to do? Abort and proceed with package upgrade from the terminal?
[20:45] <sumagna> Done
[20:45] <sumagna> EriC^^: done
[20:46] <EriC^^> sumagna: ok, type 'grub-install --recheck /dev/sda'
[20:46] <sumagna> Done withou any warning
[20:46] <sumagna> *Without
[20:47] <EriC^^> sumagna: great, type 'update-grub'
[20:47] <sumagna> Again reboot, right?
[20:47] <sumagna> After exiting
[20:48] <EriC^^> sumagna: yup
[20:49] <sumagna> There now comes a menu
[20:50] <sumagna> With ubuntu only
[20:50] <sumagna> NOT WINDOWS 10
[20:50] <EriC^^> sumagna: ok, boot into it
[20:50] <sumagna> As you wish
[20:50] <sumagna> Please tell me that i wilk be able to boot into windows 10 again
[20:50] <sumagna> *will
[20:51] <EriC^^> yes bro no worries
[20:51] <sumagna> :D
[20:51] <sumagna> Started
[20:52] <EriC^^> sumagna: type 'sudo update-grub'
[20:53] <sumagna> Done
[20:53] <EriC^^> sumagna: did it mention windows?
[20:53] <sumagna> Now?
[20:53] <sumagna> Yes :D
[20:53] <EriC^^> ok nice, try rebooting
[20:53] <sumagna> Ok
[20:54] <sumagna> Done rebooting
[20:54] <EriC^^> sumagna: windows in the menu? all good?
[20:54] <sumagna> Yes
[20:55] <EriC^^> ok :D
[20:55] <sumagna> EriC^^:Very very thanks to you for your help
[20:55] <EriC^^> sumagna: you're welcome
[20:55] <OerHeks> now start wondows and the software that installed flexnet :-D
[20:55] <sumagna> Now i am going to sleep
[20:55] <sumagna> It's like 2 in the midnight
[20:56] <sumagna> Now tomorrow i have to set up ubuntu as it was before
[20:56] <sumagna> By the way
[20:56] <sumagna> I backed up my home folder
[20:57] <EriC^^> i see
[20:57] <sumagna> Can i replace the new one with it
[20:57] <sumagna> Backup means I copied it
[20:57] <sumagna> Can i?
[20:58] <EriC^^> sumagna: well sure, just copy the files into the new user's home dir and then run "sudo chown -R $USER: ~/" as your user
[20:58] <EriC^^> sumagna: btw, do you want a swap?
[20:58] <sumagna> It was in ubuntu 19.10 when
[20:58] <sumagna> What will that do?
[20:59] <EriC^^> sumagna: it sets the ownership of the files to your new user
[20:59] <sumagna> Ok
[20:59] <sumagna> Later
[20:59] <EriC^^> so no swap?
[21:00] <sumagna> I want to first get a good sleep
[21:00] <sumagna> Then i think tomorrow i will do everything else
[21:00] <EriC^^> good idea
[21:00] <sumagna> This week was a hard one
[21:01] <sumagna> Btw should i keep the live usb as it is?
[21:01] <sumagna> Meaning should i format it right now
[21:01] <OerHeks> always handy to have an usb/ubuntu ready
[21:01] <EriC^^> yeah, what OerHeks said
[21:01] <sumagna> Or will I need it for the swap
[21:01] <sumagna> I understand that
[21:01] <EriC^^> sumagna: you won't need it for swap
[21:01] <OerHeks> !swap
[21:02] <EriC^^> you'll just create a /swapfile and format it and add it to fstab, you can do that while booted as usual
[21:02] <sumagna> But i borrowed this from my elder sister and she wants it back
[21:02] <sumagna> As i cant find my pendrive
[21:03] <sumagna> Ok
[21:03] <isene> Upgraded to 19.10 and VIM syntax is broken with errors like "E484: Can't open file /usr/share/vim/vim80/syntax/syntax.vim" Tried to purge of VIM and reinstalling. No change. Any ideas?
[21:07] <sumagna> EriC^^:  tomorrow help me set up a swapfile
[21:47] <alesan> hello
[21:47] <alesan> where can I download ubuntu 18.04LTS 64 bit?
[21:47] <alesan> the page does not allow me to choose a mirror or 32/64bit
[21:48] <alesan> and the "default" comes down at 40KB/s it would take me all day
[21:48] <alesan> I have a Gbps connection here to the internet :(
[21:49] <MrLemur> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[21:49] <bprompt> alesan:  tried torrents yet?
[21:49] <bprompt> alesan:  sometimes the torrents can go faster than the ftp or http links
[21:50] <sixwheeledbeast> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ ?
[21:50] <OerHeks> there is no 32 bit version anymore, and you ask for 64 bit and complain about it?
[21:50] <alesan> bprompt, I'd love to use torrents
[21:51] <bprompt> alesan:  they do have torrent links for downloading the iso
[21:51] <alesan> OerHeks, complain about it?? I just don't know what I saw given, as there is no specifier on wheter the automatic download is 32 or 64
[21:52] <OerHeks> https://torrent.ubuntu.com/tracker_index
[21:52] <alesan> what is wrong in having a page with all the mirrors, torrents (in fact, torrents before the HTTP mirrors) and a CLEAR designation on what it is 32 or 64
[21:52] <alesan> bprompt, thanks!!!
[21:53] <OerHeks> again, there is no 32 bit version anymore
[21:53] <Habbie> https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[21:53] <alesan> https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads THIS is the page I was looking for thanks!!!!
[21:53] <Habbie> oh hi :)
[21:53] <bprompt> alesan:  https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads scroll down to the middle of the page
[21:54] <alesan> fanmtastic it's coming down at 39MB/s vs 40KB/s of the HTTP mirror
[21:54] <alesan> literally three orders of magnitude faster
[21:54] <alesan> OK done downloading :D
[21:55] <alesan> now, what is the name of the executable to start the disc creation?
[21:57] <bprompt> alesan:  you can burn it just using "dd", stick a usb stick on say /dev/sdb for example then simply issue -> dd if=/PATHTOFILE/http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ubuntu-18.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb <---
[21:58] <alesan> it seems like this Ubuntu VM I'm using cannot get access to the USB stick  so that I can dd
[21:58] <alesan> so I'll have to flash it through the host OS that is window10
[21:58] <alesan> :(
[21:58] <EriC^^> there might be an option for usb in the settings
[21:58] <sixwheeledbeast> unetbootin for Win?
[21:59] <bprompt> no an issue, you can simply download an app for windows10 to rawwrite it
[21:59] <alesan> do you know which?
[21:59] <EriC^^> rufus and yumi(?) is popular
[22:00] <jfcaron> So my university's HR & admin departments use Windows+Adobe Acrobat to create pdfs and forms.  When I open with them with Atril/Evince there is some Adobe treachery that just makes it say "You need Adobe Reader" instead of showing anything.  Is there a way to defeat this garbage?
[22:00] <bprompt> alesan:  https://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/files/latest/download   <---- is a windows "raw image" writer, simply write the iso file raw to the usb device
[22:00] <alesan> jfcaron, AFAIK evince does NOT support forms
[22:01] <bprompt> alesan:  last I used it, is just one tiny .exe btw, and you just run that
[22:01] <alesan> jfcaron, okular might, but your best bet for PDF forms is acrobat reader (for linux)
[22:01] <alesan> bprompt, THANKS!
[22:01] <jfcaron> alesan: I don't need to fill the form, I'd like to just read it.  It doesn't even show the fields and normal text, it's a mostly blank page with the Adobe message.
[22:02] <jfcaron> pdfunite barfs trying to read it, says it's not a PDF. =p
[22:03] <bprompt> jfcaron:  right, some PDF newer files could have some features that only work in Adobe Reader, other 3rd party apps, even windows or macOSX ones choke the same
[22:03] <bprompt> jfcaron:  so, it may just the PDF version and features it was saved with
[22:04] <alesan> jfcaron, what does "file" says about it?
[22:04] <jfcaron> PDF document v. 1.7
[22:05] <alesan> bprompt, that program only accepts .img files, not .iso
[22:05] <bprompt> alesan:  nope, it accepts whatever you give it, it uses .img, yes, and it may show .img by file filter as default, you can change that filter by just typing -> *.*
[22:08] <bprompt> alesan:  there's also Rufus, you could also use that to burn it in windows https://rufus.ie
[22:18] <alesan> rufus seems to work
[22:18] <alesan> even if I am not sure why it wants to check the syslinux version and mess with it
[22:25] <bprompt> alesan:  yeah, it checks the version just for the sake of giving the usb device a relevant label name
[22:54] <madflavor> fixed my lvm issue
[23:25] <GoodTimesImmort> hello room
[23:28] <OerHeks> :-)


[00:36] <knome> micahg, did you get to upload something?
[01:36] <knome> Unit193, keeping hopes up for RU and ES
[01:36] <Unit193> Mmmm, I have hopes for RU as well, some others too.
[08:53] <elfy> ochosi: "can i have a screensaver (xscreensaver) and still use light locker for login?" our pqwoerituytrueiwoq friend ...
[08:54] <bluesabre> elfy: nope
[08:54] <bluesabre> err
[08:54] <bluesabre> well, yes
[08:55] <bluesabre> if he wants to enter his password twice
[08:56] <elfy> he might - he'd rather have something on the screen than a blank one - uses TV for monitor apparently
[08:56] <elfy> and hi bluesabre :)
[08:57] <bluesabre> hey elfy
[08:58] <bluesabre> it might be possible, but if he's doing something like that, just use xscreensaver
[08:58] <elfy> yea - remove lightlocker I guess
[09:12] <jhenke> good morning
[09:12] <elfy> hi jhenke
[09:14] <elfy> bluesabre: your words are immortalised on the forum ...
[09:19] <bluesabre> oh boy
[09:23] <elfy> I highlighted the 'err'
[09:29] <ochosi> morning
[09:30] <ochosi> elfy: he's probably mixing things up
[09:30] <elfy> hi ochosi
[09:30] <ochosi> he's probably wanting to say "can i still use the greeter and use xscreensaver for locking"
[09:30] <elfy> entirely possible
[09:30] <ochosi> light-locker has nothing to do with login
[09:30] <elfy> yep - that will be a what do I call it thing I expect
[09:31] <bluesabre> hey ochosi: going to try release a fixed greeter now before I'm gone for the day
[09:31] <elfy> rather - I think what he's saying is then can I have a screensaver and still use light-locker
[09:32] <ochosi> bluesabre: great stuff! i don't think we have any other bugs we can/want to fix for now and that one bug is nasty enough to warrant a release
[09:32] <ochosi> also, translations
[09:32] <ochosi> elfy: right, that doesn't make too much sense then...
[09:33] <ochosi> bluesabre: we should do another parole sprint and try to fix one or two more bugs and then do a release of that, maybe next week or so
[09:33] <ochosi> bluesabre: or: could :)
[09:33] <elfy> ochosi: yea - reading between the lines - he wants a 'picture' on the monitor - not a blank screen
[09:33] <bluesabre> ochosi: agreed
[09:33] <bluesabre> I'm going to do a round of bugfix releases this weekend, then we can try to hack on parole
[09:34] <ochosi> bluesabre: that sounds great. well that or we try to figure out the lock-settings mess :)
[09:34] <brainwash> mugshot anytime soon too? :)
[09:34] <bluesabre> I don't suppose you had a chance to test the dvd fix?
[09:34] <bluesabre> brainwash: today or tomorrow
[09:34] <brainwash> great
[09:34] <bluesabre> brainwash: any particulars you want fixed for sure?
[09:34] <ochosi> bluesabre: i asked around, ppl here don't have any video dvds :/
[09:35] <bluesabre> ok, I'll hope for the best... it does work for me anyway :)
[09:35] <ochosi> elfy: yeah, that's not in the scope of light-locker
[09:35] <ochosi> bluesabre: yeah, it'll most likely be an improvement, even if it only works for some ;)
[09:35] <elfy> ochosi: I know - so remove light-locker and install xscreensaver would work for him
[09:36] <ochosi> elfy: exactly. probably i need to extend that post for x.org on locking and mention screensavers
[09:36] <brainwash> bluesabre: not sure, I pushed 3 branches which add some minor improvements (no lp reports)
[09:36] <elfy> ochosi: yea, or I could
[09:36] <ochosi> anyway, gotta take off now
[09:36] <elfy> have a good weekend :)
[09:36] <ochosi> elfy: that'd be great, feel free to go ahead
[09:37] <brainwash> bluesabre: do you already have a solution for the file size issue?
[09:37] <ochosi> thanks, i'll most likely come back quickly tonight and check in
[09:37] <elfy> somehow I knew you'd say that :p
[09:37] <ochosi> :)
[09:38] <ochosi> have a nice day everyone!
[09:38] <brainwash> cya ochosi
[09:38] <elfy> hi brainwash
[09:38] <bluesabre> brainwash: yeah, I'm going to scale the image to 250px or something small
[09:38] <brainwash> hey elfy
[09:38] <brainwash> bluesabre: ok
[09:39] <bluesabre> btw, make some merge requests for your branches explaining them... otherwise, they look pretty good
[09:40] <brainwash> nothing special, and I was not sure if they are actually merge ready
[09:41] <elfy> bluesabre: ok - you're safe now, not immortalised on the forum :p
[09:42] <bluesabre> *phew*
[09:43] <elfy> lol
[09:44] <brainwash> *pqwo*
[09:44] <brainwash> just checking the ubuntu+1 subforum
[09:45] <elfy> generally it's either pqwwerweraf or ajgreeny bringing up Xubuntu issues
[09:47] <bluesabre> ok, greeter released, now for some quick packaging
[09:47] <bluesabre> https://launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/1.8/1.8.4
[09:48] <dkessel> hey guys
[09:48] <bluesabre> hey dkessel
[09:49] <dkessel> bluesabre: which DVD issue are you referring to?
[09:49] <bluesabre> dkessel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/+bug/1098323
[09:49] <bluesabre> I applied a fix in trunk
[09:50] <elfy> dkessel: most of the bugs being looked at are on the blueprint I think/hope
[09:50] <elfy> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-t-bugs
[09:52] <dkessel> bluesabre: I could verify a fix. hmm is there a package yet or how could I try?
[09:53] <bluesabre> the parole package here should be updated with the fix: https://launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis/+archive/xfce-4.12-daily
[09:54] <dkessel> OK will try that later today
[09:57] <dkessel> don't want make the cat stand up from my lap atm ;)
[09:57] <elfy> lol
[09:59] <dkessel> :D
[10:03] <bluesabre> thanks dkessel
[10:03] <bluesabre> knome, micahg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1299397
[10:03] <bluesabre> that release should fix that horrible bug
[10:05] <brainwash> "horrible" :)
[10:05] <bluesabre> gotta go, bbl
[10:05] <brainwash> bye
[10:05] <elfy> cya bluesabre
[10:05] <bluesabre> any bug I have to fix twice is "horrible"
[10:05] <bluesabre> :D
[10:07] <bluesabre> or rather, "that has to be fixed twice"
[10:07] <bluesabre> since ochosi did all the work the second time :)
[10:08] <elfy> lol
[10:08]  * bluesabre has cleared his conscious and can leave now
[10:08] <bluesabre> or is that conscience
[10:08] <elfy> sleeping for the day
[10:08] <bluesabre> whatever
[10:08] <bluesabre> bbl
[10:08] <elfy> aah - conscience might be best :p
[10:09] <bluesabre> heh
[12:13] <udzguru> hello
[12:13] <elfy> same answer in here ;)
[12:14] <udzguru> no different question here probably ;)
[12:14] <elfy> that said I'm lazy and tend to use synaptic
[12:15] <udzguru> my wireless indicator in the tray disappeared for no reason. starting nm-applet does not bring it back. any ideas?
[12:15] <udzguru> (beforehand i killed all instances of nm-applet)
[12:15] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Trusty/Gtk3Indicators
[12:16] <elfy> look at the indicators may fail to load bit :)
[12:19] <udzguru> ok ... applying the changes ... then will reboot (due to a kernel update). will get back with more information afterwards. thanks for your help in advance!
[12:31] <elfy> brainwash: do you know of the top of your head if the old Ctrl+Esc shortcut to menu is being added for whiskermenu?
[12:31] <elfy> or indeed anyone else who is lurking ;)
[12:33] <udzguru> back again
[12:34] <elfy> I noticed :p
[12:34] <udzguru> everything worked out fine after using your howto elfy. thank you so much for your help.
[12:34] <elfy> welcome :)
[12:35] <udzguru> had to get used to the little-confusing settings of the notification panel but now i have back my wireless indicator ;)
[12:35] <elfy> I don't use wireless so ...
[12:35] <udzguru> yeah ... call it network indicator ;)
[12:35] <elfy> :)
[12:37] <udzguru> performance-wise i really like trusty.
[12:37] <elfy> good :)
[12:44] <starrats> Just curious did you devel folks get rid of 'workspaces' on the final Beta, I'm using it now.
[12:44] <elfy> just booted the daily - that has 2 workspaces
[12:47] <starrats> couldn't find the 'daily'
[12:48] <elfy> starrats: middle click on the desktop - how many workspaces does that show you?
[12:49] <elfy> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/current/
[12:49] <starrats> ok
[12:51] <brainwash> elfy: https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xubuntu-default-settings/appmenu_shortcut
[12:52] <elfy> brainwash: thanks - I guessed it was in the pipeline - just checking :)
[12:52] <elfy> and I'm never really sure where to look either ...
[12:53] <elfy> I guess if I kept links to the LP pages for people I'd probably find them there lol
[12:54] <elfy> starrats: so how many workspaces when you middle click on desktop?
[12:55] <starrats> I have now 4 but can't get the 3 to move to the individual spaces
[12:56] <starrats> they're all in #1 workspace
[12:56] <elfy> what?
[12:56] <elfy> I completely don't understand that
[12:56] <elfy> hi lderan
[12:57] <starrats> I have FF, TB mail and Hexchat all in the first workspace want to put them in individual workspaces
[12:57] <elfy> right click on the title bar and move them - or drag them
[12:58] <starrats> ok
[12:59] <starrats> will work on it in a bit must go help my gf atm
[13:00] <brainwash> we've crippled the workspace usability a bit
[13:08] <elfy> how?
[13:09] <elfy> I don't use it much so haven't really noticed much
[13:10] <brainwash> workspace switcher (panel) has been removed and some on-scroll functionality has been disabled
[13:11] <elfy> oic - the oh my you could accidentally shake while typing 1 and get 1111 workspaces thing :p
[13:11] <brainwash> 100 is max
[13:11] <elfy> and the switcher can be added if people want it
[13:11] <elfy> brainwash: I'm just quoting someone else :)
[13:12] <brainwash> no, not the settings dialog scroll problem
[13:12] <elfy> yes :)
[13:13] <brainwash> elfy: https://code.launchpad.net/~ochosi/xubuntu-default-settings/xfwm4_disable_scrollevents/+merge/209545
[13:13] <elfy> instead of going for "11" you go for "111" or even "1111"
[13:13] <elfy> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10644
[13:14] <brainwash> yeah, but ochosi does not want it to be changed ^
[13:14] <elfy> oh that - I see waht you're talking about now
[13:14] <brainwash> :)
[13:14] <elfy> yep - I know - I Was confusing 2 issues there
[13:14] <elfy> I forget we did that as I still haven't got that change and had to put it back
[13:18] <brainwash> just created a new user and our default whiskermenu favorites add some clutter
[13:18] <brainwash> maybe it's just me
[13:19] <elfy> looking in vm
[13:19] <brainwash> I prefer a clean and lightweight look
[13:19] <elfy> well ...
[13:20] <brainwash> don't agree? :)
[13:20] <brainwash> it's my first impression
[13:20] <elfy> pretty sure the decision was to have in favourites what is in the slideshow - and it's easy enough to remove things
[13:20] <brainwash> yes, everyone can change whatever he wants
[13:21] <elfy> my default menu has completely different things on it
[13:22] <elfy> brainwash: compare that to the app menu plugin
[13:22] <brainwash> the classic app menu has a clean look
[13:22] <elfy> there is actually 1 less 'app' on the default whiskermenu
[13:24] <brainwash> ok, I don't want it to be changed (would be almost impossible anyway)
[13:26] <elfy> lol
[13:59] <elfy> brainwash: aha - got some sort of useful output - ish on deleting from desktop - adding it to report
[14:00] <elfy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/1294209/comments/6
[14:01] <brainwash> elfy: nice, we got a hint now :)
[14:03] <elfy> yep
[14:03] <brainwash> https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/38853
[14:05] <elfy> then a second attempt to delete from the desktop doesn't get the warning
[14:06] <elfy> anyway - there we go - finally get something useful for it :p
[14:06] <brainwash> only a warning message according to the arch report, but your system apparently freezes =S
[14:06] <elfy> yep
[14:06] <elfy> no apparently about it :D
[14:09] <elfy> can't find anything on bugzilla.xfce
[14:09] <elfy> I'll report it there
[14:09] <elfy> or is the issue with gvfs
[14:12] <brainwash> gvfs, but thunar/xfdesktop might be causing the freeze by not handling the gvfs warning/error properly
[14:12] <brainwash> can you check if thunar is also generating the warning?
[14:12] <elfy> really don't want another damn account lol
[14:13] <elfy> I don't get the same issue when deleting in thunar - it is only from the desktop
[14:13] <brainwash> if yes and thunar does not cause any freeze, then there is something wrong with xfdesktop maybe
[14:13] <brainwash> ok, file against xfdesktop
[14:13] <brainwash> upstream
[14:13] <elfy> yep
[14:17] <elfy> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10778
[14:17] <elfy> added it to LP report - still a vague description - but there you go - I'm vague at the best of times :)
[14:19] <brainwash> at least we now have something to work with
[14:19] <elfy> yea
[14:49] <dkessel> bluesabre: your fix for the dvd playback issue works. i have verified with parole from your xfce ppa
[14:52] <starrats> elfy and brainwash I did figure out how to work the new version of 'workspaces', I use them a lot considering this is Linux but I prefer the old way when they sat up on top and not using middle mouse button to get to each one.
[15:00] <brainwash> starrats: it's the same thing, you can re-add the panel workspace switcher
[15:02] <starrats> ah okay
[15:06] <starrats> got it thanks brainwash
[16:20] <bluesabre> dkessel, thanks a lot!
[16:21] <dkessel> well thank you for fixing, bluesabre :)
[16:22] <bluesabre> I'll do a new parole release tonight, mugshot too
[16:25] <dkessel> bluesabre: regarding bug 1293151 - i debugged it a bit and found it only happens in the live session. still interested in finding the problem?
[16:25] <bluesabre> yeah, if we can figure it out, it will probably save some trouble down the road
[16:34] <starrats> good, bad or indifferent that timed from when the screen goes black and have to put you password in on this last Beta is really a short time, not complaing just noticing
[16:48] <brainwash> starrats: put your password to do what?
[16:48] <brainwash> unlock the session after it was inactive for 10 minutes?
[16:49] <starrats> away form the laptop for a bit and then I comeback and te desktop/screen is black and I move the cursor a tad and I have to put my password back in to get back on
[16:50] <starrats> like I said really no big deal but it is quite fast or I'm slow in getting back, lol
[16:51] <starrats> yes brainwash
[16:52] <brainwash> 10 minutes is the default timeout
[16:53] <brainwash> but you can change it
[16:53] <brainwash> settings manager > light locker settings
[16:54] <starrats> ah okay but the 10 minutes is fine I was only commenting on it.  Love this final.
[16:56] <starrats> when this is released, I hope a lot of folks will be thrilled with it, like I am.  Very good job by all who participated in this  build!
[17:12] <dkessel> bluesabre: i attached files to the menulibre bug. extra info: if i log out of the live session and re-enter the session, the menu is updated correctly
[17:49] <Unit193> Re: Xubuntu translations: 1. Well I'd hope everything is 100% English.  2. What translation should Libreoffice pull in when installed?  This sounds more like it's expecting you to know what language you want, and for you to install it.  3&4 see #1 :P  (But really, I think he's confused between git master and actual releases.)
[17:51] <knome> yep.
[17:51] <knome> though i guess he's saying we should pull translations from git master
[17:51] <knome> ... which we should
[17:53] <Unit193> How?  As a quilt patch?  Or repack? :/
[17:54] <knome> i don't know how, but it would be good to have the latest translation state
[17:55] <Unit193> Maybe it's because I'm English only, but I'd normally say just follow the releases.
[17:56] <brainwash> Unit193: request a new upstream release :)
[17:57] <Unit193> Why?  If it's not major bug fixes or new features? :P
[18:04] <knome> if we are carryinag a delta for package X, won't hurt to update with a new ubuntu version
[19:31] <brainwash> Noskcaj: should we be worried that this hasn't be merged yet?
[19:31] <brainwash> been
[19:31] <brainwash> https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubuntu/trusty/xfce4-settings/1289411/+merge/212261
[19:32] <Noskcaj> brainwash, Not yet. We had beta freeze and then a weekend, so not much merge sponsoring
[19:33] <brainwash> ok
[19:33] <Noskcaj> But because universe, we can get stuff sponsored till final release freeze (with project lead approval)
[19:34] <brainwash> right, but we want it fixed as soon as possible, so there is more time left to test it :)
[19:34] <brainwash> test the final product I mean
[19:36] <dkessel> elfy: upgrade test saucy -> trusty done
[19:38] <brainwash> Noskcaj: does the patch header and name matter when adding patches to a package?
[19:39] <Noskcaj> brainwash, not that much, but it helps to have good info
[19:40] <brainwash> what prefix should I use for a patch extracted from a git mirror for svn?
[19:40] <brainwash> abiword :P
[19:41] <elfy> dkessel: ta :)
[19:43] <Noskcaj> just svn-
[19:47] <brainwash> oh, I used the rev number for my PPA upload
[19:47] <brainwash> so, r12345-
[19:47] <brainwash> debdiff or bzr branch?
[19:48] <Noskcaj> whatever you prefer working with.
[19:49] <brainwash> ok, thanks :)
[19:57] <brainwash> Noskcaj: abiword does no support downstream branches
[19:58] <Noskcaj> What do you mean?
[19:58] <brainwash> https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword
[20:01] <brainwash> this is rather complicated
[20:04] <brainwash> packaging for my PPA is so easy, but officially releasing this is meh
[20:05] <brainwash> it needs to be done on the debian side
[23:12] <knome> hey micahg, should we poke the sponsors queue or are you going to upload things?
[23:13] <Noskcaj> knome, There's enough stuff that a queue poke is needed anyway
[23:14] <knome> i'm talking about particular things i've asked him to upload; if you think there's something that needs to be in the sponsors queue, feel free to do the paperwork
[23:15] <knome> and it'd be appreciated if that was "just done"