[04:51] <lewix> stdin, ok
[04:51] <stdin> MaTiAz: yep
[04:51] <MaTiAz> stdin: Ok, thanks a lot :)
[04:51] <stdin> np :)
[04:52] <genii> stdin: I wonder if his hda and hdb are same size and geometry
[04:53] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/mf4bf6d7 -->thats what happen the secon time I tried to run kismet
[04:53] <MaTiAz> stdin: btw, does the kubuntu CD contain dd by default?
[04:54] <magles> stdin: allright, now I've installed Wine, how does it work?
[04:55] <Atila> Nice Wine
[04:55] <Atila> I play Diablo II LOD on B.Net with my Kubuntu.
[04:55] <MaTiAz> magles: You just double-click an exe, or run it from terminal with wine <programname> <options> :)
[04:55] <doug_> Yorokobi:  I'm trying a test wave right now using aplay in konsole, but i only get very light static at full volume which would probably mean my channels in alsa are wrong, right?
[04:56] <Yorokobi> doug_, possible, or your sound card is not (fully) supported.
[04:56] <miles> i finally got postgresql working...
[04:56] <lewix> stdin, here is the output when I type in iwconfig: http://pastebin.com/m2e4889d
[04:56] <doug_> Yorokobi:  but it worked in live cd mode
[04:56] <stdin> MaTiAz: yes the CD has DD
[04:57] <stdin> magles: you run it like "wine file.exe"
[04:57] <stdin> lewix: looking...
[04:57] <stdin> genii: hope so :p
[04:57] <MaTiAz> stdin: awesome, thanks :)
[04:57] <magles> stdin: but it's very very slow..
[04:58] <magles> and How can I do that if the game folder is on my Kubuntu desktop?
[04:58] <stdin> magles: the 1st time it is, it's making the files you need
[04:58] <stdin> magles: run the exe in the folder
[04:59] <stdin> lewix: try using this config http://stdin.pastebin.us/38444
[04:59] <rustalot> stdin: I got it from wikimedia commons. unfortunately, adobe Illustrator can't do SVG properly - WTF?
[05:00] <stdin> rustalot: inkscape does svg well
[05:01] <chaotic_> hey im editing  the kde menu adding items  whats the difference between  command path  and work path
[05:01] <magles> stdin: isn't there a folder called \home\magles\.wine+
[05:01] <stdin> chaotic_: the command path is the path to the command, the work path is where it's run from
[05:01] <rustalot> stdin: I don't trust its print controls though, so I'm using it to export a bitmap and using photoshop
[05:02] <lewix> stdin, same thing
[05:02] <chaotic_> for some reason
[05:02] <Yorokobi> doug_, I'm out of ideas. Have you checked the Ubuntu wiki yet? (http://wiki.ubuntu.com)
[05:02] <chaotic_> crossover office
[05:02] <stdin> chaotic_: eg, if a command expects files in the working dir then you'll need to set it. for most command you don't need to enter it
[05:02] <chaotic_> didnt make me a windows app tree
[05:02] <stdin> magles: yes, but with forward slashes and without a +
[05:03] <stdin> chaotic_: ls ~/.wine/drive_c/
[05:04] <doug_> Yorokobi: I'll try looking more.  i think i just ruined a blank dvd though.  told me my disc was finished, and i took it out, now i can't view the data files on it
[05:04] <doug_> adios
[05:05] <magles> stdin: It works now, but it's still, very very very slow..
[05:06] <chaotic_> actually its in the /.cxoffice/
[05:06] <stdin> for crossover office, yes
[05:06] <chaotic_> yeah thats what   im using it with
[05:07] <stdin> lewix: well you only need kismet to find the APs, if you can see them in the scan then you don't really need it
[05:07] <eilker> !beryl
[05:07] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:07] <eilker> !xgl
[05:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:07] <lewix> stdin, do you have a good tutorial about all that process
[05:07] <stdin> lewix: there are a few, I'll find one
[05:08] <lewix> stdin, ok I'm gonna try to use airodump. if it doesnt' work I'll restart my computer and try kismet again
[05:08] <stdin> lewix: restarting is a bad windows habit, normally doesn't do anything in linux
[05:09] <lewix> stdin, ok thanks. I won't then
[05:10] <lewix> stdin, sudo sirodump ath1 filename channel# 1 . isn't working either. It is working but I don't see any connection
[05:10] <psygrass> hi guys, what programme do u advice for terminal-based torrents download?
[05:10] <pag> psygrass, rtorrent maybe?
[05:10] <stdin> lewix: you should select a bssid to listen to
[05:11] <whyhankee> psygrass: my personal favorite is rtorrent
[05:11] <andreas_> german+
[05:11] <andreas_> german
[05:11] <pag> !de | andreas_
[05:11] <ubotu> andreas_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:11] <lewix> stdin, whenever i do iwconfig..I see 'kis ...' in addition of ath0 ath1 on the output. is it kismet?
[05:11] <andreas_> thx
[05:11] <psygrass> pag, whyhankee: thanx a lot
[05:12] <lewix> stdin, ok . I was just following a tutorial I guess this is a bad one :)
[05:12] <chaotic_> told me something i cannot wriite
[05:13] <chaotic_> to kde menu
[05:13] <stdin> lewix: post "iwlist ath0 scan" to pastebin
[05:13] <chaotic_> this  ubuntu sudo  crap   is  really getting to me
[05:14] <Yorokobi> chaotic_, sudo -s to change to root
[05:14] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m1da14570
[05:14] <chaotic_> the problem is
[05:14] <chaotic_> im editing the kmenu thru the gui
[05:15] <stdin> lewix: which one do you want to crack?
[05:15] <Yorokobi> chaotic_, ah, I hope you're using kdesu then instead of sudo
[05:15] <chaotic_> sudo -s dooesnt  effect any thing u try to do with the gui
[05:15] <lewix> stdin, torrilo
[05:16] <Yorokobi> chaotic_, do menu entries require the kdesu/sudo prefix for their commands? if so, why?
[05:16] <chaotic_> i guess they do
[05:17] <pag> chaotic_, no they don't?
[05:17] <vzduch> don't guess, know
[05:17] <chaotic_> well it wont let me write changes
[05:17] <vzduch> there is (almost) nothing in the menus that requires to be run as root
[05:18] <vit___> spaeak spanish???
[05:19] <Yorokobi> !es | vit___
[05:19] <ubotu> vit___: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:19] <stdin> lewix: try "sudo airodump-ng -i -w wep -c 9 ath1"
[05:19] <chaotic_> tell my kde menu that
[05:20] <Yorokobi> chaotic_, are you saying you can't modify menu entries unless you edit it as root?
[05:20] <chaotic_> could not  write
[05:21] <stdin> lewix: then something like: sudo aireplay-ng -3 -a 00:18:01:87:D8:A5 -e Torrilo ath1
[05:21] <chaotic_> thats the error it gives me
[05:21] <lewix> stdin, I don't see any connections still
[05:21] <stdin> chaotic_: the only reason it wouldn't be able to write to it is if something in ~.kde/ is not owned by you
[05:21] <chaotic_> menu changes could not be made because of the following problem could not write
[05:21] <genii> Running X as root in some non-root home directory might mess stuff like menus up
[05:22] <magles> stdin: How come when i run Wow.exe my system crashes to the login screen?
[05:22] <stdin> magles: don't know, I don't really run wine. try asking on the #winehq channel
[05:22] <lewix> stdin, it works but there's no bssid,station,pmr,packets....
[05:22] <chaotic_> everything in there is owned by me
[05:23] <elite101> atheros? is that a wif-fi card driver or a an actual card from intel because i have to install that driver to a wireless card for aircrack and i dont know if u need and intel one
[05:23] <elite101> for packet monitoring
[05:23] <stdin> lewix: try this: sudo aireplay-ng -1 0 00:18:01:87:D8:A5 -e Torrilo ath1 (in another shell)
[05:24] <Ahmuck> hi, what program comes with kubuntu to recoginze scanners?
[05:24] <stdin> elite101: atheros is the make, madwifi is the driver
[05:24] <stdin> !scan | Ahmuck
[05:24] <ubotu> Ahmuck: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[05:25] <ninhertatil> Ahmuck: try gimp itself
[05:26] <elite101> stdin, can i only use that type of card arthero's? or can i use a linksys card with the madwifi driver???
[05:26] <elite101> i was on a tutorial on how to use aircrack and it sayed athero's? so i thought u only need that card?
[05:26] <elite101> and since i have a linksys
[05:26] <stdin> elite101: no, the madwifi driver is for only atheros. you need the driver for the card you have
[05:27] <elite101> stdin, okay so it kinda patches that card for aircrack kinda thing? so i should be okay to use mine!!!?
[05:27] <lewix> stdin, lewis@lewis-laptop:~$ sudo aireplay-ng -1 0 00:18:01:87:D8:A5 -e Torrilo ath1
[05:27] <lewix> ioctl(SIOCGIFINDEX) failed: No such device
[05:27] <Ahmuck> i need device detection.  i think it was kooka
[05:28] <stdin> elite101: take a look at http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php to see if it will work for you
[05:28] <stdin> lewix: is ath1 still there? in iwconfig
[05:29] <Ahmuck> hrm, no, kooka \
[05:29] <lewix> stdin, yes sir, ath0,ath1 and kis
[05:29] <elite101> what is that type of connection anyways? ath1? i wave wlan0 and eth0/1
[05:29] <Ahmuck> not what i was looking for ... i know it comes with kubutu by default, but i uninstall it because i have never had a scanner
[05:29] <stdin> elite101: ath is for atheros, yours will be different
[05:30] <lewix> stdin, wifi0 : no wireless extensions
[05:30] <stdin> lewix: ok, try changing "ath1" to "kismet" or "kis"
[05:31] <lewix> stdin,  no such device
[05:31] <stdin> lewix: which one?
[05:31] <lewix> stdin, both
[05:31] <stdin> hmm
[05:31] <stdin> lewix: you're on edgy yes?
[05:32] <lewix> stdin, I believe so, kubuntu
[05:32] <Graham> What's a good application that allows iso files to be mounted and unmounted easilly?
[05:33] <genii> Graham It is pretty easy to do it manually
[05:33] <Graham> I know, I just don't like to fuss around with it.
[05:33] <Graham> I found gisomount, seems up to the job.
[05:34] <stdin> Graham: you can use my little app if you want :) http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/MountFile?content=61955
[05:34] <stdin> lewix: ahh, the version in edgy is quite old, that may be the reason it's not working for you
[05:35] <lewix> stdin, hmm
[05:35] <stdin> !info aircrack-ng edgy
[05:35] <ubotu> aircrack-ng: Wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 460 kB
[05:35] <stdin> !info aircrack-ng
[05:35] <stdin> ...
[05:35] <ubotu> aircrack-ng: wireless WEP/WPA cracking utilities. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.6.2-7ubuntu1.1 (feisty), package size 186 kB, installed size 528 kB
[05:35] <sparrw> Can anyone recommend WYSIWYG page layout software that can visibly arrange text across multiple pages that will be trimmed?  For making banners and such.  I know a lot of graphics programs can "just do" that sort of printing, but I want to see where the page breaks will be while editing.  InDesign can almost do it.  Scribus apparently can't.
[05:35] <MaTiAz> hey, how do I determine which HDD is /dev/hda and which one's /dev/hdb?
[05:35] <MaTiAz> I don't wanna clone the wrong one
[05:36] <sparrw> mathieu: hda is primary master, hdb is primary slave
[05:36] <stdin> MaTiAz: sudo fdisk -l should help
[05:37] <lewix> stdin, shoul I upgrade
[05:37] <stdin> lewix: it's up to you
[05:37] <stdin> lewix: it works on feisty, because I've done it
[05:37] <MaTiAz> stdin: hmm, dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb doesn't seem to work
[05:38] <lewix> stdin, tell me what you think and Ill do it. ( i dont know how to upgrade though)
[05:38] <stdin> MaTiAz: define "doesn't work"
[05:38] <MaTiAz> stdin: http://rafb.net/p/QyUwiI72.html
[05:38] <MaTiAz> sorry :)
[05:38] <lewix> stdin, also if you know a good tutorial please let me know
[05:39] <stdin> lewix: there is a guide to upgrading here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#head-6146e7b1dd7a50f5029fd0704e38cad9420c000a
[05:41] <lewix> stdin, I use kubuntu :)
[05:41] <magles> stdin: how do I remove application (console version) ?
[05:41] <stdin> MaTiAz: try http://pcquest.ciol.com/content/linux/2005/105041202.asp
[05:41] <harmental> hey guys....
[05:41] <harmental> which is the best tool translate latex to html?? tex4ht? latex2html? tth? hevea?
[05:41] <stdin> magles: apt-get remove package
[05:42] <stdin> lewix: yes, I know, you're on the #kubuntu channel and I gave you the kubuntu instructions
[05:42] <Graham> I think I'm gona have a go at setting up my own little iso mount routine.
[05:42] <stdin> Graham: nah, just use mine :p
[05:42] <Solifugus> What is Canonical's business model?  I have no idea where they make their money?
[05:42] <lewix> stdin, I think you did a mistake then because I see the ubuntu instruction
[05:43] <stdin> Solifugus: they make money with commercial support
[05:43] <Graham> Solifugus: Mark Shuttleworth :P
[05:43] <magles> stdin: thanks!
[05:43] <stdin> lewix: you don't see
[05:43] <Graham> stdin: But I'll be more impressed if I do my own.
[05:43] <stdin> "Network upgrade for Kubuntu desktops (recommended)"
[05:43] <stdin> Graham: heh, well fee free to steel/hack mine, to get you started
[05:44] <Solifugus> but that doesn't make sense... it is extremely rare that any company has made money from technical support services...
[05:44] <Graham> You know in Konquer you can right click a file and get an actions menu, is there I was to add to that menu?
[05:44] <stdin> Solifugus: RedHat do
[05:44] <elite101> stdin: i can only use my pci card for aircrack, mad-wifi doesnt support usb :( but it does support my pci/d-link!!! :)
[05:45] <Solifugus> stdin: redhat makes it money from Professional Services--consulting support, and shut down their own non-enterprise business because tech. support was too expensive for them to provide.
[05:45] <stdin> Graham: download my package, it has that. take a look in the installGUI.sh file
[05:45] <stdin> Graham: hack away :)
[05:45] <Graham> Fine...
[05:45] <lewix> stdin, ok my bad :)
[05:45] <stdin> Graham: it'll give you some ideas
[05:46] <neusonce> ok guys, im almost in tears, i cant install flash or java, i have  followed every net guide you can throw at me
[05:46] <Graham> But if there's anything I don't like, I'm gona edit the fuck out of it, mkay?
[05:46] <neusonce> PLEASE GOD HELP
[05:46] <stdin> Solifugus: TBH, canonical aren't really making a profit
[05:46] <Agent_137> neusonce: are you using 64 bit os?
[05:46] <stdin> Graham: it's GPL, do what you want with iy
[05:46] <neusonce> yes i believe so
[05:47] <Agent_137> neusonce: don't.
[05:47] <stdin> !flash64 | neusonce
[05:47] <neusonce>  how can i not ?
[05:47] <Agent_137> flash isn't going to work unless you jump through a bunch of hoops, sacrifice a kitten, and get lucky
[05:47] <ubotu> neusonce: You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[05:47] <Solifugus> stdin: actually, their website seems to focus on "engineering and professional services" (http://www.canonical.com/)--so I guess it's the same as Redhat's business, essentially.
[05:47] <Agent_137> install the 32 bit kbuntu
[05:47] <neusonce> shut up ubotu
[05:47] <stdin> Agent_137: flask is "ok" on 64bit now
[05:47] <Solifugus> stdin: only redhat doesn't distribute their's for free...
[05:48] <Agent_137> stdin: pics or shens. my SOUNDcard doesn't work in 64 bit, much less flash
[05:48] <stdin> Agent_137: tried that guide?
[05:48] <lewix> stdin, once it's done.  airodump, and aireplay are suppoed to work correctly, right?
[05:48] <neusonce> whats the command to find out if youre machine is a 64 bit
[05:48] <neusonce> -name
[05:48] <neusonce> ?
[05:48] <stdin> lewix: should do, they do here
[05:48] <pag> neusonce, ie. uname -m
[05:48] <Graham> stdin: I like it, but there's only one place I'll ever want it to mount so I'm gona change it a bit.
[05:49] <Agent_137> stdin: no, but i see it's emulating 32 bit for firefox, that still doesn't sovle my soundcard issues
[05:49] <stdin> Graham: fine :)
[05:49] <Agent_137> further, it doesn't seem worth the effort to gain a little speed
[05:49] <lewix> stdin, by the way , why do you always type in airodump-ng instead of airodum or aireplay-ng instead of aireplay
[05:49] <chaotic_> how  come  microsoft outlook is not connecting to my mail servers
[05:49] <neusonce> x86_64
[05:49] <neusonce> god
[05:49] <neusonce> no
[05:49] <neusonce> OK
[05:49] <chaotic_> i usto work   at comcast tech support so i know all the settings
[05:50] <neusonce> IM WILLING TO SACRAFICE A SMALL EUROPEAN CHILD
[05:50] <chaotic_> i know theyre good
[05:50] <stdin> lewix: the OLD packages are without the -ng, but they aren't maintained anymore, so they are -ng now (next generation)
[05:50] <Graham> stdin: I reckon you should make that into a package for the kubuntu repository.
[05:50] <stdin> chaotic_: because outlook sux?
[05:50] <lewix> stdin, ok thanks.. anyway I'll get back to you when the upgrade is done.thanks
[05:51] <Agent_137> neusonce: try that guide stdin poasted if you haven't already. if that fails, just go back to 32 bit kbuntu, it'll work just fine on your 64 bit machine.
[05:52] <stdin> Graham: I could, but it's just a shell script. and there is also fuseiso that can mount ISO (with fuse). but it's there for anyone who wants it
[05:52] <Agent_137> neusonce: then installing flash is easy, just DL the tarball and drag it the contents into the appropriate folder for konq, don't bother with that /.flash-player-installer-stupid-ass-command shit
[05:52] <neusonce> GOD DAMM
[05:52] <stdin> !language | for all
[05:52] <ubotu> for all: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:52] <Agent_137> ...
[05:52] <neusonce>  do i need to download another version of ubuntu
[05:53] <neusonce> i cant just change a setting or to ?
[05:53] <Agent_137> you'd have to do a new version
[05:53] <Agent_137> are you on kbuntu or ubuntu?
[05:53] <neusonce> ......
[05:53] <neusonce> ubuntu
[05:53] <Agent_137> why
[05:53] <neusonce> agnet
[05:53] <Agent_137> kbuntu has better programs.
[05:53] <Agent_137> and you're in the kbuntu channel
[05:53] <Agent_137> kubuntu, rather
[05:53] <neusonce> personaly  agent
[05:53] <Graham> stdin: I know it's small but it's awesome.
[05:53] <Agent_137> personaly.
[05:53] <neusonce>  whats better
[05:53] <neusonce> and if i can ask why
[05:54] <stdin> Graham: thanks :)
[05:54] <Agent_137> kubuntu is better because the programs are better
[05:54] <Agent_137> it has digikam and a better mud client and if you -have- to have firefox you can install it
[05:54] <Agent_137> but konq works just as well.
[05:54] <neusonce> so i need to download kubuntu 32 bit
[05:54] <Agent_137> also i find kopete superior to gaim.
[05:54] <miles> konq's only pitfall is that it isnt supported by yahoo.com
[05:55] <Agent_137> and it has Ktorrent which is a graphical torrent client that actually works fine
[05:55] <neusonce> kubuntu is KDE
[05:55] <Agent_137> who the hell uses yahoo for anything?
[05:55] <Agent_137> yes neusonce.
[05:55] <miles> mr. yahoo
[05:55] <neusonce> yahoos evil
[05:55] <neusonce>  ok
[05:55] <miles> so is google
[05:55] <miles> but i guess its the lesser of the two
[05:55] <neusonce>  is KDE more stable ?
[05:55] <Agent_137> google is not evil
[05:55] <chaotic_> how do i get konversation to launch when i click  on an irc link
[05:55] <neusonce> i use google
[05:55] <Agent_137> google is borg evil.
[05:55] <Agent_137> not malicious . . . just . . . all encompassing.
[05:55] <neusonce>  i own google shares
[05:56] <Agent_137> anyway neusonce, i had your same troubles
[05:56] <Agent_137> and i'm offering you the solution i used. might be a better one, but mine definitely worked. so, that's that.
[05:56] <neusonce>  and i guess i only really brought them becuase  i couldent believe that  a search engine could go  public
[05:56] <neusonce>  why
[05:56] <neusonce>  whats the key differnce between 32bit and 64
[05:57] <Agent_137> 64bit offers speed advantages WHEN PROGRAMS ARE BUILT FOR IT
[05:57] <Agent_137> which they aren't.
[05:57] <BluesKaj> hardware support
[05:57] <neusonce> by logic shoudent 64 bit be faster
[05:57] <miles> and it really isnt that much of an advantage
[05:57] <Agent_137> should be faster when shit is programmed to USE it
[05:57] <Agent_137> which it isn't.
[05:57] <Agent_137> give 64-bit another year or two.
[05:57] <Agent_137> just like dual cores
[05:57] <neusonce> i really need blender  will that be in kubuntu
[05:57] <miles> half-life 2 64 bit ran a tad bit faster
[05:57] <Agent_137> the hardware right now is WAY WAY WAY ahead of all software.
[05:58] <BluesKaj> none at all , since most apps aren't written for it...and the hardware support sucks on my setup
[05:58] <neusonce>   and will the net magically work lon kubuntu like on ubuntu
[05:58] <stdin> chaotic_: take a look at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance+desc&bug_status=__open__&id=92390
[05:58] <Agent_137> if blender works on ubuntu and gnome it'll work on kde
[05:58] <neusonce> ok
[05:58] <neusonce>  serisouly
[05:59] <neusonce> i was almost intears
[05:59] <Agent_137> what do you mean the net?
[05:59] <neusonce>  iv been trying for 4 days for a simple java program
[05:59] <Agent_137> you'll have to install java and flash
[05:59] <Agent_137> but it'll actually WORK
[05:59] <Agent_137> once you've installed it
[05:59] <Agent_137> there is some trouble getting konq to work with flash, but it's not systematic
[05:59] <neusonce>  well the internet works on ubuntu with out any configuration
[05:59] <neusonce>  i was expecting a hell of a time
[06:00] <Agent_137> oh yea
[06:00] <Agent_137> the same for kubuntu
[06:00] <Agent_137> just not flash or java
[06:00] <Agent_137> hey LISTen
[06:00] <Agent_137> when you get it installed
[06:00] <Agent_137> get the flash tarball from the flash site
[06:00] <vzduch> !enter | ag
[06:00] <ubotu> ag: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:00] <vzduch> !enter | Agent_137
[06:00] <ubotu> Agent_137: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:00] <stdin> Agent_137: you know flash is in the repos?
[06:00] <Agent_137> wtf is repos.
[06:00] <vzduch> omfg
[06:01] <stdin> Agent_137: repositories
[06:01] <Agent_137> oh. yea, doesn't work
[06:01] <stdin> Agent_137:  oh yeah it does
[06:01] <Agent_137> not for me
[06:01] <Agent_137> tried it
[06:01] <vzduch> works fine here
[06:01] <stdin> Agent_137: it downloads the EXACT same file
[06:01] <Agent_137> yea well it doesn't put it in the right spot, konq wouldn't find it on a scan
[06:01] <stdin> Agent_137: yes, it will
[06:02] <vzduch> and?  you can always put your own path into Konq
[06:02] <Graham> stdin: How do I change the default location?
[06:02] <Agent_137> stdin: IT DIDNT.
[06:02] <neusonce> ok but a few more q's
[06:02] <Agent_137> vzduch: yea, but not if i don't know where the hell the repo put the so file.
[06:02] <stdin> Agent_137: it put a link in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ and that's where konq looks
[06:02] <neusonce>  linux is rather impervious to virus's, correct?
[06:03] <Agent_137> stdin: konq looks in a lot of place, not just there, and if i'm having to move crap around after getting it from a repo, why the hell not just get it from the site?
[06:03] <Agent_137> neusonce: not only does it have more robust security, no one bohters to write virii for it
[06:03] <stdin> Agent_137: the package sets it up for you , so you don't have to move anything
[06:03] <neusonce> why is that?
[06:03] <neusonce> mutual respect ?
[06:03] <neusonce> hatred for windows
[06:03] <Agent_137> stdin: read my words: didn't f'ing work.
[06:04] <stdin> read mine, it did
[06:04] <Agent_137> GOOD
[06:04] <Agent_137> IM GLAD
[06:04] <stdin> i'm glad your glad, now we're all glad
[06:05] <Agent_137> not sure, neusonce, but i imagine they don't want to pee in their own backyard, but also i imagine the linux community can respond faster to such threats.
[06:05] <Agent_137> virii depend on security holes
[06:05] <stdin> Graham: just remove all the places $dir is set and make it static
[06:05] <Agent_137> and security holes are patched -real- quick in linux
[06:06] <neusonce> so i should be downloading Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn with PC (Intel x86) ?
[06:06] <neusonce> remember guys im a linux baby
[06:07] <neusonce> i was once, i imagine like you
[06:07] <neusonce> unknowledged in the ways of linux
[06:07] <Agent_137> i'm still a noob, but yes, neusonce, that one.
[06:07] <Graham> dir=/media/iso :)
[06:07] <neusonce> man
[06:07] <Agent_137> neusonce: i gotta get moving, PM me any questions if the channel at large doesn't answer them, and i'll take a look when i get back
[06:08] <neusonce> i brought a 4k machine   and within a few weeks of putting up with vistas shit i was like, fuck this
[06:08] <elite101> hey can u get a command prompt for Kubuntu???
[06:08] <elite101> like a windows one
[06:08] <Graham> Konsole
[06:09] <stdin> !language | neusonce
[06:09] <ubotu> neusonce: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:09] <cloakable> Graham: He might want a dos prompt rather than a bash one :P
[06:09] <PriceChild> lol "like a windows one"
[06:09] <stdin> you've been warned
[06:09] <neusonce> thanks agent
[06:10] <dr_willis> export PS1="C:"
[06:10] <dr_willis> :)
[06:10] <chaotic_> hey the ubuntu server is irc.freenode.net right
[06:10] <cloakable> Yup
[06:10] <elite101> yeah i need a cmd. i made this code to turn it into a mssenger by ip adress calling :) but i cant us terminal (obv)
[06:10] <cloakable> Also irc.ubuntu.com
[06:10] <dr_willis> that is the freenode server, which hosts the ubuntu channel. and this one. :)
[06:10] <Graham> freenode isn't ubuntu specific
[06:10] <elite101> i my friend uses freenode (xchaT) hes onwindows
[06:10] <Graham> ##linux #linuxforums #slackware #debian #fedora #redhat #opensuse
[06:10] <chaotic_> just downloaded excursion was always my fav mirc script for windows
[06:11] <cloakable> Graham: I know. Debian is on here too :)
[06:11] <dr_willis> irc.ubuntu.com irc.freenode.net   - both are part of the freenode network.
[06:11] <Graham> You get the idea :)
[06:11] <elite101> chaotic_: where do i download that?
[06:11] <Graham> dr_willis: Are you for real?
[06:11] <Agent_137> neusonce: check the pm
[06:11] <chaotic_> excursion.humr.org
[06:11] <dr_willis> Why would you not think im real?
[06:11] <gnomefreak> iirc irc.ubuntu.com IS irc.freenode.net
[06:11] <Graham> stdin: What about actions > mount file, what does that do?
[06:11] <elite101> is it just like the windows one
[06:11] <dr_willis> !freenode
[06:11] <gnomefreak> it fowards to freenode.net
[06:11] <ubotu> freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[06:11] <stdin> yeah, it's an DNS alisa
[06:12] <elite101> cant i get a friend to send me MSDOS and run it under wine???
[06:12] <elite101> lol
[06:12] <dr_willis> !info freedos
[06:12] <ubotu> Package freedos does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:12] <dr_willis> !info dosbox
[06:12] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA graphics, sound and DOS. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65-1 (feisty), package size 506 kB, installed size 1388 kB
[06:12] <dr_willis> !info dosemu
[06:12] <ubotu> dosemu: The Linux DOS Emulator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2.2-8 (feisty), package size 947 kB, installed size 2204 kB
[06:12] <stdin> Graham: it runs the mountfile script in lines 102-125
[06:13] <stdin> Graham: it basically calls the script with $file already set
[06:13] <kenshin6x> hi! need help for monitor resolution! anybody can help me?
[06:13] <dr_willis> !fixres
[06:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:13] <dr_willis> checked there yet?
[06:14] <Graham> stdin: You rule :)
[06:14] <stdin> Graham: yes, yes I do :p
[06:16] <Ryaren> hi
[06:16] <Ryaren> how can i check what CD-ROMs i have?
[06:17] <sveweck> uh, look around your room?
[06:17] <sveweck> kidding :)
[06:17] <kenshin6x> man, my resolution is instable, ! all time i startx my resolution start in 640x480 mode, but my xorg.conf is "OK"! other users of the my pc can use 1280x1024.. but at 2 days ago, my resolution no change... i use the command "xandr" for manual change, but when restart X all back again (640x480)... any solution for this? (sorry for my english)
[06:17] <sveweck> look in media:/
[06:17] <dr_willis> yea.. slashdot has a 'why linux has failed on the desktop' artical.. wonder how wrong it is...
[06:17] <sveweck> (or /media if using kubuntu)
[06:17] <Ryaren> but my problem is that any cd-roms connected
[06:17] <sveweck> dr_willis: heh, another one?
[06:17] <dr_willis> sveweck,  yep.. so far - it dont seem to actually say much
[06:18] <sveweck> Ryaren: do you mean CD drives?
[06:18] <dr_willis> a Kernel Developer got irate and ranted, and quit... that proves linux fails?
[06:18] <Ryaren> yes
[06:18] <Ryaren> No CD drives connected
[06:18] <Ryaren> but i have
[06:18] <Graham> stdin: Really, you need to put that script in the repositories.
[06:18] <DexterF> someone ever installed fglrx and had random system lockups when using 3D apps like Google Earth?
[06:18] <stdin> Graham:
[06:18] <stdin> Graham: heh, I can always ask :p
[06:19] <zombielion> im using kubuntu 7.04 what is a good prog to use to burn dvds to play on the dvd player
[06:19] <logixoul> Ryaren:  maybe check KInfoCenter -> CD-ROM
[06:19] <elite101> i need a better dos the excurision is .rar?
[06:19] <logixoul> zombielion: k3b
[06:19] <kenshin6x> man, my resolution is instable, ! all time i startx my resolution start in 640x480 mode, but my xorg.conf is "OK"! other users of the my pc can use 1280x1024.. but at 2 days ago, my resolution no change... i use the command "xandr" for manual change, but when restart X all back again (640x480)... any solution for this? (sorry for my english) ... anybody can help me?
[06:19] <dr_willis> DexterF,  ive just had hanging issues when loggint out.. not tried googleearth however.
[06:19] <elite101> anyone know of a good dos prompt
[06:19] <DexterF> zombielion: only burn an iso or incl mastering?
[06:20] <dr_willis> elite101,  you may want to try tio make a little more sence.
[06:20] <logixoul> kenshin6x: don't repeat so often ;) . 10 minutes is ok, 2 minutes is not
[06:20] <elite101> i need a dos prompt for kubuntu
[06:20] <Graham> stdin: Either you do it, or I do.
[06:20] <logixoul> elite101: the proper term is "console" or "terminal". remember that.
[06:20] <DexterF> dr_willis: had some weird problem back then on slackware, video wouls stop for a second or so once every 1-2 hours. when this occured and 3D was active, system froze. haven't seen that on kub so far tho
[06:21] <elite101> lol no not really
[06:21] <logixoul> elite101: you can use Konsole for that.
[06:21] <zombielion> i just want to take a avi and burn it to a dvd to watch  on the dvd player
[06:21] <elite101> no u cant
[06:21] <ph3r> How can I turn digital sound output off?
[06:21] <elite101> lol
[06:21] <logixoul> elite101: ?
[06:21] <stdin> Graham: heh, you can if you want :p
[06:21] <elite101> is there  a way i can download MSDOS?
[06:21] <zombielion> maybe if i used it for like a picture slide show to play on the dvd player i might want to add a menu or something
[06:21] <dr_willis> elite101,  not legally, there is a freedos alternative
[06:21] <DexterF> zombielion: different. need to convert to mpeg2 first, then master a dvd. there's apps for that tho. look in Adept.
[06:21] <logixoul> elite101: and this has what to do with KDE?
[06:21] <ph3r> How can I turn digital sound output off? ?
[06:22] <elite101> ohh nvm
[06:22] <Graham> stdin: I shall.
[06:22] <dr_willis> elite101,  ther are also dos emulators under linux.  time to hit google. I  mentioned them earlier
[06:22] <elite101> okat
[06:22] <dr_willis> dosbox - runs most old dos games very well.
[06:22] <chaotic1> im back
[06:22] <chaotic1> do guys see colors on me its set by default
[06:22] <elite101> lol the one person said konsole is no diff then dos. lmao type ipconfig or ipconfig/all.
[06:22] <ismael__> how can I install my vivanco IseeU webcam in ubuntu?
[06:22] <logixoul> Hi. I have both GRUB (one in MBR and another one in a Wubi virtual partition) and the NT bootloader (in the Windows partition). I wanna get rid of the MBR GRUB (so I go straight into the NT bootloader). How do I do that?
[06:23] <elite101> terminal is for bash i need plain dos
[06:23] <dr_willis> ismael__,  id do somt googling on that webcam and linux to even see if its supported at all. Ive got several webcams here with no linux support.
[06:23] <BluesKaj> kenshin6x, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:24] <stdin> logixoul: you need to run "fixmbr" from the windows restore CD
[06:24] <dr_willis> elite101,  then install a dos emulator.
[06:24] <dr_willis> the 'terminal' can run several shells, bash, csh, fish, others... :)
[06:25] <elite101> okay i am i need dos to open up a .bat file i made
[06:25] <logixoul> stdin: Right, ok. Do you know if that will retain the current OS selection menu I have in there? (Kubuntu and Windows)
[06:25] <dr_willis> elite101,  we are back to 'install a dos emulator' then...
[06:26] <vzduch> logixoul: you're contradicting yourself.. you said you want to get rid of Grub
[06:26] <stdin> logixoul: it will overwrite grub and just go to the ntldr, I don't know if it can boot linux tho.
[06:27] <vzduch> it can, I've done it before
[06:27] <logixoul> vzduch: yep. Didn't you know the NT bootloader also has the OS-choice-menu feature? :)
[06:27] <stdin> logixoul: but can it boot linux?
[06:27] <Graham> stdin: I don't have a clue how to make a .deb file... none at all.
[06:27] <stdin> you should check before
[06:27] <vzduch> I guess it can't _boot_ Linux.. it can pass to a Linux bootloader
[06:28] <logixoul> exactly :)
[06:28] <stdin> !packaging | Graham take a look
[06:28] <ubotu> Graham take a look: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports
[06:28] <vzduch> iirc, I had it call a Grub installed on the / partition
[06:29] <vzduch> but when the Grub in the MBR calls the ntldr via chainloader it's no different, only the other way round
[06:29] <elite101> what is there just a link i can download it from? or use adept or something
[06:29] <logixoul> stdin: one of my GRUBs is installed on a virtual partition (a loopmounted file from a NTFS partition). It's what the NT bootloader boots for me.
[06:29] <vzduch> and you can configure Grub to not show on boot
[06:30] <Silent_G> hello
[06:30] <Silent_G> can someone tell me how to compile a custom program
[06:30] <logixoul> vzduch: yeah, but for that I need to have a separate configfile. Is there a way to do that?
[06:30] <Silent_G> i mean if i created a C++ document and i want to compile it how do i do it?
[06:30] <vzduch> Silent_G: the program should come w/ instructions on how to build
[06:30] <Silent_G> vzduch,
[06:30] <Silent_G> no its a program i made
[06:31] <Silent_G> just a small program
[06:31] <pag> Silent_G, simple c++? g++ file -o file2
[06:31] <vzduch> and if you wrote it yourself you should know how to use a compiler.. o0
[06:31] <dr_willis> vzduch,  :)
[06:31] <dr_willis> helloworld.c
[06:31] <Silent_G> yes im taking a tutrial on C++ language
[06:31] <Silent_G> how to write programmes
[06:31] <pag> Silent_G, ie. g++ code.cc -o myfirstexe
[06:31] <stdin> Silent_G: get a good book, it helps
[06:31] <Silent_G> on windows i used to have DevC++ wich has a gui and i used the compile button and compiled automatic
[06:32] <vzduch> even these have instructions on how to use gcc/g++
[06:32] <stdin> Silent_G: kdevelop is a nice IDE
[06:32] <Silent_G> in what format should the files be save for the gcc to compile them?
[06:32] <Silent_G> i dont think .cpp like dev right?
[06:33] <stdin> Silent_G: just text files, the extention doesn't really mater, but normally .cpp, .cc and .c++ are all good
[06:33] <Silent_G> ah ok
[06:33] <vzduch> the file extension is arbitrary.. convention is .c for C source code and .cpp/.cc/.c++/.cxx for C++ source code
[06:33] <logixoul> Hey, what happens if GRUB can't find its configfile (or the partition it used to be on)?
[06:34] <eagles0513875> anyone running a x86_64 system
[06:34] <Silent_G> and in what format will the gcc make the compiled file?
[06:34] <stdin> Silent_G: ELF on linux
[06:34] <Silent_G> ic
[06:34] <Silent_G> that file without extension?
[06:34] <logixoul> yes
[06:34] <Silent_G> also do someone know a good c++ tutrial
[06:34] <Silent_G> or a book maybe
[06:35] <Silent_G> but i prefer online
[06:35] <logixoul> ask in ##c++
[06:35] <stdin> Silent_G: the book I'm reading now is "C++, A Beginer's Guide", by Herbert Schildt
[06:35] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, I'm running x86 on my AMD64
[06:35] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: what version of kde u running
[06:35] <Silent_G> stdin,  is it an online book ? or a book to buy?
[06:36] <BluesKaj> 3.5.7
[06:36] <stdin> Silent_G: paperback
[06:36] <Silent_G> * ke- has quit ("( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 4.02 :: www.XLhost.de )")
[06:36] <Silent_G> how can he use noname script on linux
[06:36] <Silent_G> O_O
[06:36] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: ok what is ur music encoded in
[06:36] <BluesKaj> wav
[06:36] <vzduch> Silent_G: mIRC is said to run in Wine
[06:36] <vzduch> *ugh*
[06:36] <eagles0513875> crap
[06:36] <eagles0513875> just realized something
[06:37] <Silent_G> oh is ee
[06:37] <Silent_G> * i see
[06:37] <Silent_G> noname script rocks
[06:37] <vzduch> Use force. Use irssi.
[06:37] <lewix> stdin, it takes a long ass time :)
[06:37] <BluesKaj> vzduch, yes, mirc runs fine in wine
[06:37] <stdin> lewix: yeah :p
[06:37] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: u wont have my problem cuz in gutsy they use the next version of xine
[06:37] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: u dont have a machine with gutsy on it do ya
[06:38] <chaotic1> hey guys how do i get mirc to open up when i click on irc links
[06:38] <BluesKaj> I use wav cuz I'm a bit of an audio snob , don't care or lossless codecs
[06:38] <Silent_G> vzduch, but irssi is not gui
[06:38] <stdin> BluesKaj: flac?
[06:38] <BluesKaj> correction: lossy
[06:38] <vzduch> Silent_G: where's the problem w/ that?
[06:39] <eagles0513875> stdin: im going nuts with this gutsy issue i have i need another 64bit usr to confirm it
[06:39] <vzduch> BluesKaj: do you ever hear a difference between WAV/FLAC and >128kbps Ogg Vorbis?
[06:39] <stdin> eagles0513875: i'm on 32bit
[06:39] <vzduch> eagles0513875: ask in #ubuntu+1
[06:39] <eagles0513875> stdin: i know im just saying
[06:40] <eagles0513875> nobody in there seems to have one
[06:40] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, I don't mind flac, cuz it's lossless, but not a fan of mp3 , altho i do tolerate it for a while on internet radio :)
[06:40] <eagles0513875> lol
[06:40] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: im still trying to figure out how with alsa my audio sounds so much better than in winblows
[06:41] <stdin> BluesKaj: ogg/vorbis dose retain a lot of quality at lower bitrates than compared to mp3
[06:41] <BluesKaj> vzduch, yeah,.. being a drummer the cymbals sounds are especially thin and flangy sounding and guitars as well
[06:41] <lewix> stdin, do I have to restart after the upgrade
[06:41] <neverblue> eagles0513875, send me your report when you have it complete :)
[06:41] <stdin> lewix: yeah, when it's finished
[06:42] <lewix> stdin, it's finished. brb
[06:42] <eagles0513875> neverblue: lol it wont be for quite some time it looks like cuz no other gutsy 64bit user seems to have the problem
[06:42] <neverblue> :)
[06:43] <eagles0513875> neverblue: u wanna try and help me
[06:43] <logixoul> Guys, what happens if GRUB can't find its configfile (or even the partition it used to be on)?
[06:44] <lewix> how do I find out the edgy version im using
[06:44] <venik> does anyone know how to clear the screen in Kopete?
[06:44] <stdin> !version | lewix
[06:44] <ubotu> lewix: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type  lsb_release -a  in a !shell
[06:44] <eagles0513875> !xine
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <eagles0513875> !libxine
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libxine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <logixoul> !xinelib
[06:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xinelib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <eagles0513875> lol
[06:45] <neverblue> eagles0513875, sometimes #xmms knows a thing or two about audio
[06:46] <eagles0513875> whats xmms
[06:46] <lewix> If you are using the Edgy KDE 3.5.6 repository, also add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-356-pre-feisty-upgrade/ edgy main
[06:46] <eagles0513875> !xmms
[06:46] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[06:46] <lewix> I don't understand that step
[06:46] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok ill go in there
[06:46] <Yorokobi> eagles0513875, xmms is similar (in looks, at least) to Winamp
[06:46] <lewix> stdin, see above please
[06:46] <neverblue> eagles0513875, when a person types something with a # in front of it, usually means an irc channel
[06:46] <neverblue> xmms is based on winamp
[06:47] <logixoul> it's not
[06:47] <stdin> lewix: but you aren't on edgy
[06:47] <logixoul> it's a winamp clone
[06:47] <lewix> stdin, : it's still the upgrade part
[06:47] <lewix> stdin, I just clicked on upgrade..I didn't add that repository
[06:47] <stdin> lewix: can you choose to ignore/continue?
[06:48] <eagles0513875> neverblue: forgot what that channel was for
[06:48] <lewix> stdin, ok let me be clear. I opened adept manager and just clicked on upgrade. now I just saw that I skipped that step
[06:48] <edulix> can knetworkmanager setpup proxies? because in different networks I have different proxies...
[06:48] <edulix> (or no proxy at all)
[06:49] <neverblue> eagles0513875, they know their shit about audio
[06:49] <neverblue> you just have to word your questions carefully
[06:49] <eagles0513875> ok
[06:49] <eagles0513875> neverblue: ok lol
[06:49] <venik> Is Kopete still being developed, or is it eclipsed by Pidgin?
[06:49] <lewix> stdin, the upgrade is done though, but I skipped that step and I'm not sure if it was necessary
[06:49] <stdin> lewix: if you didn't add the kubuntu.org kde-3.5.6 repo to your sources then that's ok
[06:49] <lewix> stdin, should I?
[06:49] <logixoul> venik: it's still in development. Pidgin is an unrelated project.
[06:50] <BluesKaj> Kopete works quite well, I don't see the need for pidgin ...found it clunky
[06:50] <neverblue> ;)
[06:50] <venik> I tried file transfer in both, but it failed in both
[06:50] <runlevelten> pidgin is has an ugly, badly designed interface
[06:50] <stdin> lewix: no, it was if you did add it before, then you'd have to do that. if you didn't then you can ignore it
[06:50] <eagles0513875> i love kopete
[06:50] <runlevelten> more of a gnome app ;)
[06:50] <eagles0513875> runlevelten: its renamed gaim lol
[06:50] <venik> does anyone know how to clear the screen in Kopete?
[06:50] <runlevelten> indeed it is
[06:51] <stdin> venik: look in the menus??
[06:51] <lewix> stdin, ok cool I restart now
[06:51] <BluesKaj> Konversation has a few flaws but i prefer it to xchat for IRC
[06:51] <Yorokobi> venik, does Ctl-l work ?
[06:51] <venik> I did, of course-- did not find it
[06:51] <venik> no
[06:51] <Yorokobi> venik, drop it and use screen+irssi :)
[06:52] <venik> wtf is that?
[06:52] <stdin> maybe you can't do it in kopete, it's not a real IRC client anyway
[06:52] <Yorokobi> !info irssi | venik
[06:52] <ubotu> venik: irssi: terminal based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.10-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1010 kB, installed size 2788 kB
[06:52] <venik> I much prefer irc clients, like Klient, but many of my friends use Yahoo and AIM messengers, so...
[06:52] <Yorokobi> !info bitlbee
[06:52] <ubotu> bitlbee: An IRC to other chat networks gateway. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 308 kB, installed size 780 kB
[06:53] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: I meant to say, you should consider extracting the contents of $KDEDIR/share/apps/kopete/ircnetworks.xml and using it in your konversationrc
[06:53] <eagles0513875> neverblue: xmms room is dead
[06:53] <stdin> venik: you can't use 2 apps?
[06:53] <Yorokobi> screen+irssi+bitlbee = terminal irc/im happiness
[06:53] <logixoul> Guys, what happens if GRUB can't find its configfile (or even the partition it used to be on)?
[06:53] <eagles0513875> !patience
[06:53] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:53] <venik> you can't use 2 Operating Systems?  Of course we can, but one is better than two
[06:53] <runlevelten> a small awk script could probably turn it into something you can just >>
[06:53] <vzduch> eagles0513875: what do you expect of an app that's been unmaintained for 4 years?
[06:53] <Yorokobi> logixoul, something "not good" probably. Try it and find out.
[06:53] <venik> or three
[06:53] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, err..how would I do that, not much of a scripter
[06:54] <eagles0513875> lol whose maintaining it now
[06:54] <stdin> venik: linux philosophy: make an app that does one thing, but does it well
[06:54] <vzduch> it's still being packaged, but not even bugfixes
[06:54] <stdin> s/app/tool
[06:54] <logixoul> Yorokobi: sure, but I'm afraid I might be unable to get back to my Kubuntu and reverse the operation then
[06:54] <pag> logixoul, it'll say that error has occured, and you can't get past that point.
[06:54] <stdin> logixoul: you can always reinstall grub
[06:55] <runlevelten> I don't really IRC in kopete, but you can do almost anything you want with kopete through scripting
[06:55] <venik> OK-- irc, AIM-clone, Yahoo Messenger clone, Google Talk clone...
[06:55] <logixoul> pag: Ah, thanks
[06:55] <stdin> google talk = jabber
[06:55] <venik> yes, I am using Kopete with GT (Jabber)
[06:55] <lewix> stdin, ok
[06:55] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: You could either pull it out manually then using kxmledit, or you could use sed/awk
[06:56] <eagles0513875> ever room i need to help me try fix my issue is dead
[06:56] <runlevelten> sed is much easier for newbies :)
[06:56] <logixoul> stdin: but can I install it to 2 separate places (with different configs), if I have only one Kubuntu installation?
[06:56] <BluesKaj> I run konversation due to it's simple and familiar interface ..Kopete is ok for IM but i don't bother using it on IRC
[06:56] <stdin> lewix: try it now, 1st use the airmon-ng command then the others
[06:56] <lewix> what was the command again? to check the version
[06:56] <lewix> stdin, ok
[06:57] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: and contrary to what some people think, konversation is perfectly scriptable :)
[06:57] <cox377> anyone of there is anyway to archive in evolution mail?
[06:57] <venik> I am using Konversation for irc, to chat with you guys now
[06:57] <stdin> logixoul: why would you want/need to?
[06:57] <runlevelten> You could easily make a konversation bot using a language of your choice.
[06:57] <venik> and Kopete to emulate the other chatting programs
[06:58] <zoohouse> Hello everyone
[06:58] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, I got a script to autload an IRC Server list, but i couldn't get it to work
[06:58] <lewix> stdin, sudo airmon-ng start ath1 or wifi0?
[06:58] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, ,.. in konverstion
[06:58] <venik> file transfer, if it worked on Kopete, would be a great help for me
[06:58] <stdin> lewix: wifi0, but I think you'll need to remake the drivers first, to make it work
[06:58] <zoohouse> I have a bin file in my home dir, if I want to be able to run that app in console, do I need to place a link to a ~/bin dir?? Iv done this and it's not working...
[06:59] <zoohouse> I mean I placed a link to the file in my ~/bin dir
[06:59] <stdin> lewix: so do "cd /usr/src/madwifi-<IP_ADDRESS>/ ; make clean ; make && make install"
[06:59] <lewix> stdin, I think its working :) airodump
[06:59] <lewix> stdin, now let's try aireplay
[07:00] <StoneNewt> you'tr gonna fund it any which way you look at it
[07:00] <StoneNewt> meh!
[07:00] <lewix> ohh I have to remake ? stdin
[07:00] <stdin> lewix: to make aireplay work properly
[07:00] <stdin> lewix: but try without first
[07:01] <logixoul> stdin: Because I need the following setup: The first GRUB unconditionally chainloads a NT bootloader, which in turn gives me a choice between Windows and the "second GRUB". This second GRUB, then, boots unconditionally into Kubuntu. (the reason I can't just go without the first GRUB is: otherwise I would need to install the NT bootloader to the MBR while retaining its menu, and I don't know how to do that)
[07:01] <Yorokobi> zoohouse, 'chmod +x binfile' then './binfile' to execute it
[07:01] <logixoul> stdin: slightly headache inducing, I know =)
[07:02] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: if you find and open your konversationrc, you'll find it's fairly self explanatory how to add them, and the serverlist from kopete is in/opt/kde3/share/apps/kopete/ircnetworks.xml
[07:02] <lewix> stdin, ok done
[07:03] <zoohouse> Yorokobi: no no I mean that I want to be able to run the app regardless of my pwd. Just like you can type a command and it runs. Know what I mean? I want the app to run like a command
[07:03] <lewix> stdin, too late Im remaking
[07:03] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, konversationrc?
[07:03] <lewix> stdin, it's done . now im trying aireplay-ng
[07:03] <stdin> lewix: ok
[07:04] <runlevelten> sorry, it's not /opt/kde3 by default, it's /usr/share/apps/kopete/ircnetworks.xml
[07:04] <Yorokobi> zoohouse, move it to /usr/local/bin then check the output of 'echo $PATH' to see if /usr/local/bin is there, if not, 'PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin; export PATH'
[07:04] <lewix> stdin, please specify a bssid (-b)
[07:04] <zoohouse> thanks
[07:05] <stdin> logixoul: you just edit the C:\boot.ini file (IIRC)
[07:05] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: find ~ -name "konversationrc"
[07:05] <stdin> lewix: the bssid is the thing that looks like a MAC address, in the form of XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
[07:06] <runlevelten> (it's in .kde/share/config btw)
[07:06] <logixoul> stdin: Marvelous, this seems to solve the whole problem! Thanks.
[07:06] <stdin> logixoul: :)
[07:06] <joe4288> hey i have a little problem
[07:06] <joe4288> its happened twice now
[07:07] <stdin> lewix: you get it from either kismet or "iwlist ath0 scan"
[07:07] <joe4288> randomly when i turn the comp on after the kde log in screen before kde boots up ill lose the signal to the monitor
[07:07] <DexterF> does it come back?
[07:07] <OuZo> how can i make my normal user start kdm, instead of root? thanks
[07:07] <joe4288> yea if i restart the comp
[07:07] <lewix> stdin, I did sudo aireplay-ng -3 -a 00:18:01:87:D8:A5 -e Torrilo ath1
[07:07] <DexterF> joe4288: viceo card?
[07:08] <joe4288> DexterF: its a onboard geforce 6100-m9
[07:08] <joe4288> DexterF: its a biostart mother board
[07:08] <stdin> lewix: change -a to -b
[07:08] <joe4288> "star"
[07:08] <DexterF> hmm. standard driver or did you install the binary nv?
[07:09] <joe4288> DexterF: im useing nvidia-gxl-new i think
[07:09] <joe4288> DexterF: it might just be nvidia-new cant remeber
[07:09] <DexterF> hmm. fesity?
[07:09] <DexterF> gnn. feisty?
[07:09] <joe4288> DexterF: i do know nvidia-gxl doesnt work yes its feisty
[07:09] <DexterF> I'd give hte binary driver a shot
[07:10] <DexterF> !nv
[07:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:10] <joe4288> DexterF: i was using nv before
[07:10] <hacker> hi
[07:10] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: you can print that file to screen without xml tags by stripping them with sed
[07:11] <joe4288> DexterF: but i want to use beryl so i updated the driver
[07:11] <DexterF> joe4288: oh, wait.
[07:11] <eagles0513875> avoid the xmms channel they r total jerks
[07:11] <DexterF> i just read up on thsi. looks like glx-new actually *is* the binary driver
[07:11] <hacker> i know
[07:11] <lewix> stdin, now it says please specify a source MAC(-h)
[07:11] <runlevelten> ie: sed -e 's/<[^>] *>//g' /usr/share/apps/kopete/ircnetworks.xml
[07:12] <joe4288> DexterF: well im going to see if maybe i used the wrong 1
[07:12] <DexterF> I have an ATi myself, so maybe someone else's comment here would help rather. on beryl: well, if you can live without it for the moment, do so. it's unstable and buggy anyway
[07:12] <stdin> lewix: put -h then the mac address of ath1 in there, use ifconfig ath1 to find it
[07:12] <joe4288> DexterF: theres 3 diffrenet nvidia drivers i think
[07:12] <hacker> yeah
[07:12] <joe4288> DexterF: and i know for a fact gxl doesnt work fore me
[07:12] <orbisvicis> i cant seem to get nfs working with guarddog ... all i need to do is permit Network File System - Sun Microsystems
[07:12] <nasty> how is every one
[07:12] <DexterF> nope, sorry, then im outta ideas here.
[07:13] <orbisvicis> ... i think
[07:13] <joe4288> DexterF: well i dont know if im going to use it or not i just wanted to see it and try it out a little
[07:13] <DexterF> orbisvicis: what's guarddog?
[07:13] <stdin> DexterF: iptables GUI, like firestarter
[07:13] <orbisvicis> DexterF, kde iptables configurator
[07:13] <DexterF> joe4288: its fun and has one or two nifty features but it's not like it makes kde a whole new experience.
[07:14] <joe4288> DexterF: yea i know
[07:14] <DexterF> orbisvicis: hmm... guess you need to use NFS on IP then and assign the daemons and clients fixed IPs
[07:14] <joe4288> DexterF: but doesnt change the fact that i have a weird little problem now
[07:14] <DexterF> err, bullsh!t, IP, NFS on TCP of course
[07:14] <joe4288> DexterF: well thanks g2g
[07:14] <DexterF> yw
[07:15] <admin2> f
[07:15] <DexterF> there's howtos on that, google
[07:15] <admin2> hey theres a bug in nickserv
[07:15] <lewix> stdin, sudo aireplay-ng -3 -b 00:18:01:87:D8:A5 -e Torrilo -h ath1 06-11-F5-8D-E0-F1-D0-E3-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
[07:15] <admin2> i just logged in with an already used nick!
[07:16] <lewix> stdin, invalid source mac adress
[07:16] <stdin> lewix: ahh, try 06:11:F5:8D:E0:F1:D0:E3
[07:16] <orbisvicis> description of guarddogs NFS service: portmapper:111 (tcp/udp) - mountd any port - nfsd port 2049 tcp/udp
[07:16] <stdin> adminh: ??
[07:16] <orbisvicis> is that right ?
[07:16] <lewix> stdin, the same
[07:17] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, /opt/kde3/share/apps/kopete/ircnetworks.xml ...can't be found
[07:17] <admin2> change nick to admin2
[07:17] <eagles0513875> this is pissing me off
[07:17] <Moderator> what
[07:17] <eagles0513875> !language |eagles051387
[07:17] <ubotu> eagles051387: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:17] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, I do have konversationrc open , however
[07:18] <orbisvicis> that is right ... so i dont know why it isnt working through guarddog
[07:18] <eagles0513875> Moderator: lol i cant find anyone who is familiar with xine coding to help me debug a bug
[07:18] <stdin> lewix: ahh, try F5:8D:E0:F1:D0:E3
[07:18] <runlevelten> BluesKaj: it's not in opt/kde3 by default, I remembered that after saying it:)
[07:18] <Moderator> oops
[07:18] <runlevelten> [18:03] <runlevelten> sorry, it's not /opt/kde3 by default, it's /usr/share/apps/kopete/ircnetworks.xml
[07:19] <eagles0513875> anyone in here able to read code lol
[07:19] <hacker> i am
[07:19] <lewix> stdin, the same
[07:19] <hacker> i only read c
[07:19] <hacker> and python
[07:19] <runlevelten> you can read it with the tags stripped out using that sed snippet up there ^ :)
[07:19] <eagles0513875> whats xine programmed in
[07:19] <hacker> no idea
[07:20] <hacker> i use vlc
[07:20] <hacker> it is codec-free.
[07:20] <stdin> lewix: you need to move "ath1" to the end of the command
[07:20] <eagles0513875> lol
[07:20] <eagles0513875> anyone else able to read code that uses xine
[07:20] <eagles0513875> and knows how to debug
[07:20] <hacker> it will play anything.
[07:21] <stdin> eagles0513875: looks like it's written in C
[07:21] <hacker> figures
[07:21] <orbisvicis> where does guarddog/iptables keep logs ?
[07:21] <runlevelten> Does it play DRM-infected windows media?
[07:21] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, sed snippet? ...your speaking a lingo that's not familiar to me :)
[07:21] <lewix> stdin, it seems to work now but I dont see packets on airodump
[07:21] <lewix> anymore
[07:21] <hacker> i think it might.
[07:21] <stdin> orbisvicis: probably syslog or kernlog
[07:21] <hacker> i use a mac
[07:21] <runlevelten> drop this in a console: sed -e 's/<[^>] *>//g' /usr/share/apps/kopete/ircnetworks.xml
[07:21] <hacker> so i dont have any.
[07:21] <runlevelten> that will print the list without all the xml tags :)
[07:21] <orbisvicis> stdin, where are those ?
[07:22] <elite101> Hey i am in my Display Setting's Network tab and My video card (nvidia vanta) wont let me configure it. the button is shaded out? not clickable?
[07:22] <hacker> it doesnt play itunes though.
[07:22] <lewix> stdin, so I have "read 0 packets......sent 0 packets...:"
[07:22] <stdin> lewix: you have to wait
[07:22] <elite101> hardware tab*
[07:22] <stdin> orbisvicis: in /var/log
[07:22] <jhutchins_lt> elite101: Do you have an "admin mode" button or checkbox?
[07:22] <eagles0513875> hacker:  u might be able to help me but let me see if i can get any info out of anyone in the xine room first
[07:22] <BluesKaj> runlevelten, gotcha ...copy n paste
[07:22] <elite101> 1sec i might lol
[07:22] <hacker> ok
[07:22] <lewix> stdin, you sure? because it's like airodump is not working
[07:22] <hacker> i will be moderator
[07:22] <orbisvicis> ty
[07:22] <elite101> stupid me lol
[07:23] <Moderator> ha
[07:23] <elite101> jhutchins_It: thanks
[07:23] <eagles0513875> Moderator: lol im conused lol
[07:23] <neusonce> whats an intresting name " hacker"
[07:23] <hacker> yeah
[07:23] <stdin> lewix: it has to get some packets before it can send them
[07:23] <hacker> why are you confused
[07:23] <lewix> stdin, let me try to do it step by step again because I did aireplay before airodump
[07:23] <eagles0513875> lol
[07:24] <eagles0513875> hacker: u a moderator of the channel or something lol
[07:24] <hacker> i am, though. everyoner talking about different stuff
[07:24] <neusonce> !register
[07:24] <hacker> no
[07:24] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:24] <eagles0513875> hacker may i pm ya
[07:24] <stdin> lewix: you can try running that command in another shell, but with "-1 0" instead of "-3" too
[07:24] <hacker> i just am amazed by the lack of security.
[07:24] <eagles0513875> lol
[07:24] <thrilla> problem
[07:24] <elite101> it says my video card is a RIVA TNT? but its a Nvidia vanta?
[07:25] <lewix> stdin, becuase I dont see any connection on airodump either
[07:25] <lewix> stdin, ok I try it
[07:25] <eagles0513875> hacker: did u get my pm
[07:25] <thrilla> alt install cd is crashing on me
[07:25] <neusonce> hey guys whats the linux  terminal command for the dos format c:
[07:25] <hacker> no im unregistered
[07:25] <elite101> lol reads it as 256kb ram? i have mb ram?
[07:25] <eagles0513875> hacker: u should register
[07:25] <stdin> neusonce: huh? that doesn't make sense
[07:25] <hacker> not right now sorry
[07:25] <eagles0513875> ok
[07:26] <phiona> neu: cd .. ?
[07:26] <thrilla> can anyone WHO KNOWS what they are doing help me
[07:26] <hacker> what about email. i have i great spam filter
[07:26] <neusonce> ok the msdos  way of wiping clean your harddrive befoer you reinstall is format c:
[07:26] <hacker><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:26] <eagles0513875> !ask |thrilla
[07:26] <ubotu> thrilla: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:26] <dr_willis> thrilla,  check the checksum, for a start on the cd and the iso file.
[07:26] <dr_willis> i gotta go. byeee
[07:26] <eagles0513875> hacker: mine is eagles051387
[07:26] <stdin> neusonce: ahh, the installer will do that for you
[07:26] <thrilla> already did that
[07:26] <eagles0513875> hacker: @gmail.com
[07:26] <neusonce> no no no
[07:27] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[07:27] <neusonce>  of got some logical partitions i wanna get rid of
[07:27] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[07:27] <hacker> email me instead of pm
[07:27] <neusonce>  and i need to keep some stuff safe in the d :
[07:27] <stdin> neusonce: you can't do it from a mounted disk
[07:27] <eagles0513875> hacker: sent u chat invite
[07:27] <stdin> neusonce: and format isn't the same as removing partitions
[07:27] <lewix> stdin, failed: no such device
[07:27] <neusonce> well this computer wont let me boot into dos
[07:28] <jcku393> does anyone know how to figure out what chipsets you have in your hardware, i need better display drivers for my new monitor
[07:28] <neusonce> i need to do a clean format
[07:28] <thrilla> the installer is getting to 85% then crashing
[07:28] <hacker> what is that
[07:28] <stdin> lewix: make sure you put ath1 at the end
[07:28] <stdin> !format | neusonce
[07:28] <ubotu> neusonce: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[07:28] <lewix> stdin, yep
[07:28] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: clean format so you can re-install Windows?
[07:28] <neusonce> NO
[07:28] <stdin> lewix: post the command you used
[07:28] <neusonce> GOD HELL NO
[07:28] <neusonce>  I JUST WANNA FORMAT SO I KNOW ITS CLEAN
[07:28] <stdin> neusonce: man mkfs < read
[07:28] <jussi01> !caps
[07:28] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:29] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: What then?  And watch the language, children present.
[07:29] <neusonce>  iv got a 330hdd and its only saying iv got 300 aviable
[07:29] <thrilla> and someone told me to try pressing ctrl+alt+right arrow when it crashes
[07:29] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: What you need to do depends on what you plan to use the partition for.
[07:29] <thrilla> that does nothing
[07:30] <jhutchins_lt> thrilla: Did you verify your disk?
[07:30] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m3adbd282
[07:30] <neusonce>  i "need" to clean info from my hardisk
[07:30] <thrilla> yes
[07:30] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: What you need to do depends on what you plan to use the partition for.
[07:30] <jhutchins_lt> thrilla: Standard or Alt disk?
[07:30] <runlevelten> you want to wipe information? What, wipe securely?
[07:30] <thrilla> the package it crashes on is
[07:30] <thrilla> openoffice.org-java-common
[07:30] <thrilla> alt disk
[07:31] <neusonce> yes
[07:31] <jhutchins_lt> thrilla: It's possible that it's just taking a long time to install that very large packge.
[07:31] <hacker> eagles
[07:31] <neusonce> securely
[07:31] <runlevelten> You should use thermite-based data rearrangement to securely remove the data from it.
[07:31] <stdin> lewix: put -h before 06-11-F5-8D-E0-F1-D0-E3 and change it to "F5:8D:E0:F1:D0:E3"
[07:31] <thrilla> how long should i wait?
[07:31] <neusonce> is KDE  more stable ?
[07:31] <hacker> eagles
[07:32] <hacker> imback
[07:32] <runlevelten> Thermite formatting isn't cheap or safe though, heh
[07:32] <neusonce> and what are the fundemental difference's between kde and gnome
[07:32] <hacker> eagles
[07:32] <lewix> stdin, http://pastebin.com/m1d5f3e40
[07:32] <neusonce> no
[07:32] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: There's a floppy-based distribution called Darik's Boot and Nuke - http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[07:32] <runlevelten> Gnome sucks. Kde, less so.
[07:32] <thrilla> the way the GUI looks
[07:32] <neusonce> i highly doubt
[07:32] <neusonce> i will be useing  thermite
[07:32] <thrilla> so go rent a wood chipper
[07:33] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: That will securely erase the partitions.
[07:33] <neusonce> grrrrrrrrrr
[07:33] <runlevelten> It's the only guaranteed method of secure data removal, heh#
[07:33] <neusonce> my computer so new it aint got a floppy
[07:33] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: There are ways to do it manually from Linux too.
[07:33] <neusonce> however i should still be able to load on a cd
[07:33] <runlevelten> thrilla: I used to do some forensic data retrieval, and we got (relatively speaking) a lot of data back from a disk that had been chopped into small pieces.
[07:34] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: It's also available for CD and DVD.  Have a look at that page and come back if you have questions.
[07:34] <neusonce> i just need to keep the d: partiton the rest of them are snaky logical partitions
[07:34] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: So what are you going to do with them?
[07:34] <stdin> lewix: try  sudo aireplay -1 0 -a 00:18:01:87:D8:A5 -e Torrilo -h F5:8D:E0:F1:D0:E3 ath
[07:35] <thrilla> run: you cann't get data off a disk the size of wood chips
[07:35] <lewix> stdin, no such device
[07:35] <stdin> lewix: yeah, put ath1, insread of ath
[07:36] <chuso> Hi :)
[07:36] <chuso> First of all sorry for my English
[07:36] <neusonce> well the only reason i wanna keep the d: partiton "if its still there" is to make sure just in case i ever need windows again iv got a back up
[07:36] <lewix> stdin, error
[07:36] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: drive letters are only meaningful within windows.
[07:36] <neusonce> shhhh linux baby
[07:37] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: Anyway, like I said, read the web page I sent you.
[07:37] <stdin> !es | chuso
[07:37] <ubotu> chuso: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:37] <stdin> lewix: what error?
[07:37] <chuso> i'm running kubuntu feisty, and i'm trying to mount an external ntfs partition. I have just installed ntfs-3g, ntfs-config, and added my user to fuse group, but i'm not able to mount the partiton. Thanks in advance :)
[07:37] <lewix> stdin, the same one as in the pastebin
[07:38] <neusonce>  2 hours 18 mins till i get kubuntu
[07:38] <stdin> lewix: you used "sudo aireplay-ng -1 0 -a 00:18:01:87:D8:A5 -e Torrilo -h F5:8D:E0:F1:D0:E3 ath1" ?
[07:38] <chuso> stdin: I know those chanels :/ thanks anyway
[07:38] <runlevelten> thrilla, how big is wood chip size?
[07:38] <neusonce> so whats the difference between  the desktops
[07:38] <lewix> stdin,  yes sir...exactly
[07:38] <stdin> chuso: btw, permissions don't apply until you logout and back in, so try that
[07:38] <lewix> stdin, why don't we just do it from scratch step by step to see what's wrong
[07:38] <runlevelten> oh, thrilla went :)
[07:38] <jhutchins_lt> chuso: Have you rebooted since you installed the 3g stuff?
[07:39] <stdin> lewix: ok
[07:39] <chuso> ok stdin, thanks a lot :) i'm going to check it
[07:39] <H4xC0r> i would you like run perl script in my apache server
[07:39] <eagles0513875> hacker: pm me again lol
[07:39] <hacker> hi
[07:39] <lewix> stdin, do I have to type in airmon--ng start wifi0?
[07:39] <stdin> lewix: no
[07:39] <lewix> stdin, ok..so now airodump
[07:40] <elite_hacker> lmao
[07:40] <runlevelten> hacker128: why are you continually changing your nick?
[07:40] <runlevelten> You're making me dizzy
[07:40] <hacker128> im not
[07:40] <lewix> stdin, in iwconfig I can see ath0 and ath1
[07:40] <elite101> lol yes thirty times a minute
[07:40] <elite101> moderator,hacker,hacker128
[07:40] <hacker128> elitehacker is apparantly a cracker.
[07:40] <elite101> lol
[07:40] <elite101> its elite101
[07:41] <elite101> if u think u can hack? why not joing #hacker ?
[07:41] <elite101> or #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:41] <stdin> lewix: ok, see if kismet works
[07:41] <neusonce> you need to be invited dont you ?
[07:42] <elite101> how do i change the apperance of KDE so its got the Black and grey look? and appearnce packs to download?
[07:42] <lewix> stdin, it works but no connection on it just like airodump
[07:42] <hacker128> i hack not crack
[07:42] <hacker128> mr elite
[07:42] <runlevelten> h
[07:42] <neusonce> and the difference is  mr hacker ???
[07:42] <elite101> exact? join #hacker
[07:42] <stdin> lewix: kismet and airodump interfere with eachother, only use one at a time
[07:42] <hacker128_> no
[07:42] <jhutchins_lt> Guys, we do have some active support conversations going on here, could you move the chatter to offtopic please?
[07:42] <lewix> stdin, that's what I did
[07:43] <elite101> thats what i said
[07:43] <elite101> #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:43] <lewix> stdin, do you think that my lan connection interfere
[07:43] <jhutchins_lt> elite101: They're called themes for kde.
[07:43] <elite101> how do i apply them?
[07:43] <stdin> lewix: not if it's wired
[07:43] <stdin> !changethemes | elite101
[07:43] <ubotu> elite101: To change your themes, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu users should visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu.
[07:43] <lewix> stdin,  it is
[07:43] <jhutchins_lt> elite101: http://www.kde-look.org/
[07:44] <elite101> thanks
[07:44] <lewix> stdin, iwlist ath0 scan: I can see 4 AP
[07:44] <chuso> stdin: it didn't work :(
[07:44] <stdin> lewix: airodump onld dumps packets it sees, you need to initiate the packets with aireplay now
[07:44] <elite101> i got some 3D looking desktop's that look really good and changed the colour of my taskbar but everthing else is stil blue and white lol
[07:45] <stdin> chuso: what does "ls -l /dev/fuse" show?
[07:45] <chuso> crw-rw---- 1 root fuse 10, 229 2007-07-24 19:17 /dev/fuse
[07:46] <stdin> chuso: and "groups|grep fuse" shows output?
[07:46] <elite101> and how can i make firefox my default browser? uninstall konqueror?
[07:46] <chuso> yes it do
[07:46] <stdin> elite101: no, in system settings -> default applications
[07:46] <chuso> my user is in fuse group
[07:46] <elite101> okay
[07:46] <chuso> but I still cannot mount ntfs partitions
[07:46] <stdin> chuso: what happens when you try to mount the partition?
[07:47] <chuso> stdin: you mean trying to mount with sudo?
[07:48] <stdin> chuso: no, when you try to mount it, what happens ?
[07:48] <chuso> if so, its mounted without write premissions (for the root user). I think its not using a suitable driver
[07:48] <stdin> chuso: how are you trying to mount it?
[07:49] <chuso> stdin: with mount command
[07:49] <chuso> mount /dev/sde1 /path
[07:49] <lewix> stdin, I tried to run aireplay and it says device or ressource busy...
[07:49] <stdin> chuso: you need to put "-t ntfs-3g" on the end
[07:49] <krzysiek> czesc
[07:49] <kamui> is there a linux manga reader or image viewer that can read manga in rar format?
[07:49] <stdin> !pl
[07:49] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:49] <krzysiek> hi
[07:50] <stdin> kamui: rar is an archive
[07:50] <stdin> !rar
[07:50] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[07:50] <BluesKaj> !cz
[07:50] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[07:50] <chuso> stdin: ok :) it tells me the device was not correctly unmounted, so its locked. I'm going to unmount under windows
[07:50] <stdin> lewix: hmm, what command did you use?
[07:50] <chuso> thank you very very much stdin!
[07:50] <stdin> :)
[07:51] <kamui> no kidding, I you arne't supposed to extract the contents, they're sorted inside the rar additionally programs like CDisplay for windows do it fine
[07:51] <chuso> and thank you for trying to understand my English!
[07:51] <kamui> just asking if there was a linux image viewer that can view inside of rars
[07:51] <lewix> stdin, aireplay-ng -3 -a xxxxxxxxx -e xxx -h xx
[07:51] <neusonce> the kde desktop im looking at seems much more  dare i say windows like. than  anything i seen outside windows
[07:52] <runlevelten> kamui: All they generally do is extract the data to a temporary location, provide it to you, and delete the temp data when done.
[07:52] <runlevelten> You can do this yourself if you wish...
[07:52] <stdin> lewix: what's all the x's?
[07:52] <kamui> runlevelten, CDisplay decompresses on the fly, its fine, it apears there's nothing available that anyone knows about
[07:53] <kamui> Im using this on HPC with linux installed, leaves me with less than stellar options for decompression
[07:53] <neusonce> dose anybody know of a program that can mask youre ip though a proxy or any other method
[07:53] <stdin> neusonce: for what purpose?
[07:54] <neusonce> privacy
[07:54] <jhutchins_lt> kamui: just unrar it.
[07:54] <neusonce> the reason why
[07:54] <stdin> on what? IRC, WWW ... ?
[07:54] <jhutchins_lt> kamui: unrar will assemble it from a chopped-up rar too.
[07:54] <jhutchins_lt> kamui: It's so easy in linux that nobody's ever bothered to make it easier.
[07:55] <neusonce> is  my last os VISTA  got a zob.trojan and basicalyy 3 years of  blender work, scripts and financial records were lost  in half a sec
[07:55] <kamui> jhutchins_lt, unrarring 400 mangas into already limited space is not an option, ill find another solution thanks anyway
[07:55] <neusonce>  i cant risk that again so im reeducating myself with linux,
[07:55] <neusonce> and i would have got a mac but they scream of hardware issues
[07:56] <stdin> neusonce: masking IP won't stop torjans on windows
[07:56] <stdin> neusonce: but look in to the "tor" package for "Maximum" security
[07:56] <lewix> stdin, ok. here is what I did: http://pastebin.com/m64a4b997
[07:56] <jhutchins_lt> neusonce: I would say the first thing you should do is learn how to do proper backups.
[07:56] <stdin> neusonce: tor puts proxys to shame
[07:56] <runlevelten> kamui: you can unrar to stdout
[07:56] <runlevelten> you don't need to save it to a disk.
[07:57] <kamui> what and pipe the output into the eye of gnome?  lol
[07:57] <runlevelten> use unrar p if you want to pipe it to another app, not the disk.
[07:57] <neusonce> like i said im a linux baby i feel so infantile reeducating myself  with you guys around
[07:57] <venik> How can I change the size of the icons in the main (right) panel at the bottom of the screen?
[07:57] <runlevelten> spose so.
[07:57] <jhutchins_lt> kamui: Yeah, pipe the unrar output to mplayer (or your player of choice).
[07:57] <neusonce> can you explain what this tors basicly dose
[07:57] <runlevelten> if eog is your favoured image viewer
[07:58] <kamui> well, Ill give it a shot right now on the desktop and see what happens
[07:58] <jhutchins_lt> kamui: That's another reason things aren't bundled in linux, they can be used more flexibly.
[07:58] <kamui> if this works the you get kudos
[07:58] <stdin> lewix: ok, some routers aren't venerable to to the attack, you can always try another attack or accsspoint
[07:58] <runlevelten> and it reads from stdin, which I don't actually know because I don't use it :)
[07:58] <lewix> stdin, airodump is not working though
[07:58] <lewix> stdin, you know..it works but I dont see nay connection
[07:59] <venik> The icons are WAY too big, but the place to change them in System Settings is grayed out
[07:59] <stdin> neusonce: it 1st will mask your IP, but more than that it's impossible to see what your IP is or where your date is going to/coming from as it's wrapped in encryption
[07:59] <stdin> neusonce: look it up on wikipedia
[08:00] <neusonce> i just did, stdin but thank you very much,
[08:00] <kamui> gok didn't work at all
[08:00] <kamui> nvm
[08:00] <kamui> Ill just buy a bigger compact flash
[08:00] <stdin> neusonce: that tor is probably THE most secure you can be
[08:01] <runlevelten> kamui: did you try piping it to mplayer?
[08:01] <kamui> yep
[08:01] <kamui> mplayer didn't know how to handle the incoming stream
[08:01] <runlevelten> and you seem like you'd know to try the individual images, not a complete extract
[08:01] <kamui> yea, I did
[08:02] <kamui> rar p blab.rar file.image | gqview
[08:02] <kamui> then I tried mplayer
[08:02] <kamui> neither worked
[08:02] <lewix> stdin, the other command with -3: http://pastebin.com/m7df06f3f
[08:03] <kamui> at least if I could get single images, I could write a perl script to automate it
[08:03] <stdin> lewix: ok, now it's waiting for ARPs to resend, leave it
[08:03] <neusonce> so totaly theoritically and in jest say if i have this "tor" on my system   if i  "hacked" in to some goverment facillity i would in effect be  protected? " this is not a serious question but id like a serious anwser "
[08:03] <kamui> regardless, It looks like this is less usefull than just investing in an 8gig CF card
[08:03] <lewix> stdin, ok
[08:05] <stdin> neusonce: pretty much, as your IP wouldn't be in any logs. the "government facility" would only see the outward address of the tor "router" you connected from (which is random and changes)
[08:06] <stdin> neusonce: tho, as a warning. some sites block knows tor routers all together
[08:06] <stdin> neusonce: like irc.freenode.net, you'd need to give the freenode staff  your gpg key to use tor with freenode
[08:07] <neusonce> omg
[08:07] <neusonce>  when i was useing my terminal is said could not install no gpg key !!
[08:08] <ryjin> hello all
[08:08] <eagles0513875> hey
[08:08] <elite101> hello
[08:08] <ardchoille> Why would someone need tor if they aren't planing any malisious activity?
[08:08] <acpopai> hello
[08:08] <ryjin> How do I install skype-<IP_ADDRESS>.deb?
[08:08] <acpopai> some one speak rench?
[08:08] <ardchoille> !skype
[08:08] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[08:08] <stdin> neusonce: the package is "gnupg"
[08:08] <elite101> commet cava?
[08:09] <elite101> lol
[08:09] <acpopai> merci
[08:09] <acpopai> ca va
[08:09] <elite101> cava bein
[08:09] <elite101> jem apple elite101
[08:10] <stdin> ryjin: right click it, there is a kubuntu menu then, choose install package
[08:10] <joe4288> hi im having some troube with a few programs
[08:10] <elite101> all i know from french class
[08:10] <elite101> lol
[08:10] <ubuntu_> boa tarde
[08:10] <joe4288> when i try to load them they just kinda flash by
[08:10] <stdin> !br
[08:10] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:10] <elite101> but i know this
[08:10] <joe4288> like when i try qemu
[08:10] <elite101> von frai evashe'
[08:10] <elite101> hahah :P
[08:10] <joe4288> if i try loading it with qemu launcher it will just flash by
[08:10] <winol> Hey there .
[08:10] <ryjin> ok
[08:10] <runlevelten> kamui: ramdisk?
[08:11] <joe4288> like it loads then closes imediatly
[08:11] <stdin> joe4288: qemu is a command line app
[08:11] <joe4288> stdin: yea i know
[08:11] <winol> I got a problem with my Epson Stylus Photo RX520 and i cant Scan anything . can someone help me plz ? :(
[08:11] <joe4288> stdin: if i load it from a terminal i have no problem
[08:11] <joe4288> stdin: but if i use qemu launcher it just flashes
[08:11] <joe4288> stdin: i never had that problem with debian
[08:12] <stdin> joe4288: what qemu launcher?
[08:12] <joe4288> stdin: theres a program qemu launcher
[08:12] <neusonce> say i was a very very motivated hacker,   could i anychance at all trace an ip  thats been pass thougth a tor  server?
[08:12] <lewix> stdin, im trying to lower my transmit rate to see: iwconfig ath1 rate 1M
[08:12] <joe4288> stdin: it lets you pick everything graphicly
[08:12] <eagles0513875> this is really upsetting me now
[08:12] <stdin> joe4288: which one?
[08:12] <lewix> stdin, there's an error "operation not permitter". should I use wifi0?
[08:12] <joe4288> stdin: like the driver the proccors thats its emulating
[08:13] <stdin> lewix: no, use sudo
[08:13] <BluesKaj> is a " *.ro file " a compressed file similar to zip or rar ?
[08:13] <winol> Hey guys ! i've got a problem with my Espon STYLUS photo RX520 . I cant scan anything .. can someone Help me plz ? ive got a mail to send tomorow and its very important :(
[08:13] <joe4288> stdin: qemu launcher is just a grachpical front end
[08:13] <stdin> joe4288: yes, there are a few of them, what package ?
[08:13] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: now lame pkg in gutsy x64 is broken
[08:13] <jhutchins> winol: Do you have the sane packages installed?  Was this previously working?
[08:13] <joe4288> stdin: whats do you mean feisty?
[08:13] <jhutchins> !info sane
[08:13] <ubotu> sane: scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (feisty), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB
[08:13] <runlevelten> winol: what do you get when you crank up xsane?
[08:14] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, bummer
[08:14] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i cant transcode this one mp3 to flac
[08:14] <stdin> joe4288: no, what is the GUI foe qemu you are using, there's more than one
[08:14] <winol> runlevelten : Sorry guys , im a newbie with Ubuntu . i didnt test Xsane or whatever ...
[08:14] <lewix> stdin, association succesful :)
[08:14] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: Gutsy is SUPPOSED to be broken.  That's why it's available for TESTING!
[08:14] <joe4288> stdin: its called qemu launcher
[08:14] <stdin> lewix: it should start sending ARP requests soon
[08:15] <winol> Jhutchins: i dont know how to install them . i have a .tar.GZ file ! but i have them
[08:15] <runlevelten> that's cool - try it now
[08:15] <BluesKaj> why do it eagles0513875 ?, it won't sound any better and the file will just be larger
[08:15] <eagles0513875> jhutchins: i know but this happened after i transcoded about 300 songs or so it could be the song ripped wrong
[08:15] <stdin> joe4288: where did you get it from?
[08:15] <runlevelten> I use a similar MFD to the 520, and I only use xsane with it :)
[08:15] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i actually notice a difference
[08:15] <joe4288> stdin: i got it from the ubuntu packages
[08:15] <joe4288> stdin: with kpackage
[08:15] <bentob0x> I have my K menu on the left hand side of the screen and everytime I download something onto the desktop, I have to right-click on the desktop>icons>line up vertically to realign and see the icons
[08:15] <stdin> joe4288: ok, what package name?
[08:15] <rustalot> how would I go about getting KDE 4? Can I run it as a seperate desktop session?
[08:15] <lewix> stdin, it is sending...I wait
[08:15] <joe4288> stdin: on second and ill tell you for sure
[08:16] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: As the topic of #ubuntu+1 says, " Please *don't* run gutsy unless you are familiar with dpkg and dependencies, bug fixing, etc | Do not use development versions of Ubuntu on production systems
[08:16] <jhutchins> winol: sudo aptitude install sane
[08:16] <stdin> lewix: airdoump should be doing something now
[08:16] <lewix> stdin, it is :)
[08:16] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, i fail to understand how it could ..Itdoesn't fill in the missing bits that were stripped when it was encoded into MP3
 : ok ! thanks im typing it
[08:17] <lewix> stdin, what's the next step
[08:17] <joe4288> stdin: its under the package name qemu-lanucher under otherosfs
[08:17] <stdin> lewix: when you have a about 500,000 packets (more is better), you can start aircrack-ng
[08:17] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: for some reaosn i notice a difference
[08:17] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: You can't get back data lost to a lossy compression program like mp3.  You will only loose additonal data by transcoding to another lossy compression, even if the other compression is better.
[08:17] <eagles0513875> ahhh ok
[08:17] <jermain> hi everyone
[08:17] <runlevelten> It may be psychosomatic eagles0513875 :)
[08:18] <lewix> stdin, ok thanks
[08:18] <eagles0513875> lol
 :
[08:18] <winol> E: Impossible de verrouiller /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Ressource temporairement non disponible)
[08:18] <winol> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it
[08:18] <eagles0513875> !pastebin
[08:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:18] <Cocytus> Whats with the "big icons" frenzy nowadays? Oxygen apparently wants icon view to default to 128x128?
[08:18] <winol> ops sorry guys !
[08:18] <elite101> lol wow i found this SDRAM stick it says imprinted on the corner 4MBx64? its a 256!!
[08:18] <jermain> !LAMP
[08:18] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:18] <eagles0513875> lol nice
[08:18] <vzduch> !aptfix | winol
[08:18] <ubotu> winol: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:18] <runlevelten> and even by transcoding to a lossless codec :)
[08:18] <jhutchins> winol: Make sure you don't have any other package tools running, make sure you began with "sudo", if all else fails:
[08:18] <eagles0513875> i somehow find more help in here than i do in the gutsy channel
[08:18] <jhutchins> Do what ubotu said.
[08:18] <joe4288> stdin: but i also have other programs that act a little weird
[08:19] <stdin> joe4288: try the package qtemu it's newer and would work better with newer versions of qemu
[08:19] <joe4288> stdin: ok
[08:19] <eagles0513875> j/w what other programs r there for transcoding
[08:19] <elite101> i only have 192mb now with 256 i will have (taking out my 64)  i will have 384mb/sdram brb going to try it
[08:19] <winol> jhutchins: ok its working now .
[08:19] <winol> jhutchins: what do i have to do now ?
[08:19] <joe4288> stdin: but other programs will try loading (bouncing icon) then just dissapear
[08:19] <jhutchins> eagles0513875: There are a bunch.
[08:19] <joe4288> stdin: do you have any idea of the cause?
[08:19] <jermain> wtf ubuntu has a lamp PACKAGE? If only i had known sooner :(
[08:19] <BluesKaj> soundKonverter, works well
[08:19] <jhutchins> winol: Read the docs for sane and set it up.
[08:20] <stdin> joe4288: all apps, or just some?
[08:20] <winol> jhutchins: ok !
[08:20] <joe4288> stdin: just some
[08:20] <stdin> joe4288: which ones?
[08:20] <lewix> stdin,  seems like its gonna take about 10min. im gonna watch some tv. ill get back to you in 10 min
[08:20] <jhutchins> winol: Usually you just need to run it and it will set itself up.
[08:20] <stdin> lewix: yeah, it takes ages
[08:20] <eagles0513875> jhutchins: like what others im using sound konverter and im having a problem wiht it with this one song
[08:20] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, soundKonverter
[08:20] <runlevelten> yeah, and the konquerer service menus that offer conversion from everything to everything else are cool :)
[08:20] <lewix> stdin, thanks though
[08:20] <winol> jhutchins: im running Xsane atm . but it told me that my device is my logitech webcam :(
[08:20] <joe4288> stdin: one off the top of my head is avida evolution simulator
[08:20] <jhutchins> winol: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[08:20] <joe4288> stdin: but there are others that i cant remeber right now
[08:20] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: already using it but its not working with this one song
[08:20] <jhutchins> winol: Grrr, sorry.
[08:21] <jhutchins> !xsane | winol
[08:21] <ubotu> winol: Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[08:21] <stdin> jhutchins: is this on dapper or edgy or feisty?
[08:21] <jhutchins> The first URL.
[08:21] <BluesKaj> song data could be corrupt
[08:21] <jhutchins> Konversation doesn't select properly for cut-and-paste
[08:21] <joe4288> stdin: i cant find the package qtemu
[08:22] <jermain> oh dang i misread, there is no lamp package >< Does anyone have time to help me with a small problem?
[08:22] <jhutchins> stdin: Sorry, what did you mean to ask?
[08:22] <jermain> I installed php5 but cant open php files in the browser
[08:22] <vzduch> jhutchins: I told the Konversation guys that already 2 years ago.. they said they would look into it, but apparently they haven't
[08:22] <joe4288> stdin: ow and also my wine doesnt work
[08:22] <stdin> jhutchins: tab completion error :p
[08:22] <jhutchins> vzduch: That or it's not trivial to fix.
[08:22] <runlevelten> what's the boggle with selection in konversation?
[08:22] <stdin> joe4288:  this on dapper or edgy or feisty?
[08:22] <joe4288> stdin: feisty
[08:22] <BluesKaj> winol, i'm very disappointed in kooka and sane ...still behind the the windows drivers in terms of colour , light and resolution capabilities
[08:23] <vzduch> runlevelten: if you are selecting something (or have selected) and the line scrolls up, the selection is gone
[08:23] <jhutchins> runlevelten: If you have say two URL's in a post, and you try to select one for cut and paste, you'll usually get the other.
[08:23] <winol> ubotu: nothing is working i think .
[08:23] <stdin> joe4288: hmm, some apps (for some reason) just don't start  the 1st time, nothing you can really do
[08:23] <BluesKaj> I'm keeping my windows partition due the fact that linux scanning sucks ..
[08:23] <joe4288> stdin: hmmm
[08:23] <jhutchins> vzduch: You can get around that by scrolling up a bit to freeze the scrollbuffer.
[08:24] <runlevelten> Ah, I see vzduch
[08:24] <winol> BluesKaj:  yeah i noticed that .... i think im going to install both System on my computer ! :(
[08:24] <stdin> jhutchins: I think that's a Qt bug actually (well, Qt3)
[08:24] <vzduch> jhutchins: that won't work in my experience, at least it didn't in earlier version (0.10.x)
[08:24] <joe4288> stdin: but how come the programs work under the terminal
[08:24] <runlevelten> jhutchins: how are you selecting it
[08:24] <joe4288> stdin: like i can run wine thorugh the terminal and qemu
[08:24] <jhutchins> runlevelten: Right click on URL, choose "Copy URL to Clipboard".
[08:25] <vzduch> I'm lazy to check now, running irssi here :)
[08:25] <runlevelten> Ah yes.
[08:25] <jhutchins> Hm.
[08:25] <BluesKaj> winol , make sure you install windows first , so you don't have boot problems afterwards
[08:25] <stdin> joe4288: kde doesn't execute the command directly, it runs it "inside" another app
[08:25] <jhutchins> I see that the URL is displayed in the status bar, and I got the one I wanted that time...
[08:25] <joe4288> stdin: i know so what could be the problem?
[08:25] <jhutchins> This is why I hadn't filed a bug on it yet.
[08:26] <stdin> joe4288: don't know, probably just a but, it the app doesn't start in about 10 seconds try again
[08:26] <joe4288> stdin: done that no good
[08:26] <stdin> jhutchins: it's a known bug in konvi
[08:27] <joe4288> stdin: i also have an issue with beryl
[08:27] <stdin> joe4288: if it's a command line app, then it normally needs you to run it in a terminal
[08:27] <kaic> hi. my internet in kubuntu seems slower than in windows. what could it be?
[08:27] <joe4288> stdin: i can get it to run but i can see any of its effects
[08:28] <stdin> joe4288: what graphics card?
[08:28] <MstbZalle> so now let it scroll up, then I'm gonna check
[08:28] <joe4288> stdin: nvidia geforce 6100
[08:28] <joe4288> stdin: and yes i have the nvidia-gxl-new driver
[08:28] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: now with my problem its saying xine cant initialize any audio drivers
[08:28] <stdin> joe4288: do you get the beryl icon in the system tray?
[08:29] <joe4288> stdin: yes
[08:29] <underdog5004> I'm trying to install awn on my lappy...I've already got it installed on my desktop, I used the download.tuxfamily.org repo...but I can't find the gpg key for the repos...is there a way to find it?
[08:29] <joe4288> stdin: and i can select beryl as windows manger
[08:29] <joe4288> stdin: but then all my boarders dissapear
[08:29] <eagles0513875> time to update my bug report
[08:29] <jhutchins> underdog5004: They may not have one.
[08:29] <BluesKaj> in soundKonverter ?
[08:30] <M_A_K> What program can I use to convert an AVI to a DVD?
[08:30] <underdog5004> jhutchins, no, I think they do, because when I did sudo apt-get update, it spat out an error:  W: GPG error: http://download.tuxfamily.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY<PHONE_NUMBER>34D43A
[08:30] <stdin> underdog5004: "gpg --search-keys SearchTerm" or if you know the key number "gpg --recv-keys KEY"
[08:30] <winol> BluesKaj: yeah yeah :) can u tell me how to install PROPERLY Kubuntu plz ? (number of PArtition ? size ? etc etc ? tks )
[08:30] <BluesKaj> Tovid , or devede, M_A_K
[08:30] <genii> M_A_K:
[08:31] <underdog5004> stdin, thanks
[08:31] <genii> bah
[08:31] <genii> M_A_K:  Whatever avi to dvd you use, be prepared to wait a long time
[08:31] <kaic> hi. my internet in kubuntu seems slower than in windows. what could it be?
[08:31] <stdin> joe4288: only way to debug is to exit beryl and run it from konsole, and talk to the people in #ubuntu-effects
[08:31] <H4xC0r> hi ;)
[08:32] <joe4288> stdin: well thanks
[08:32] <joe4288> stdin: im tired ill try and figure everything out later
[08:32] <underdog5004> stdin, didn't work...couldn't key on keyserver
[08:32] <M_A_K> Is there a better way?  I took video on my camera and used windows (i know... :(  ) to make a movie I want to put on dvd.
[08:32] <underdog5004> I searched for awn, avast, and avast window navigator
[08:32] <stdin> underdog5004: do you have the keyserver set?
[08:33] <M_A_K> What is the linux equivalent for windows movie maker ?
[08:33] <BluesKaj> winlol , i'm using 20G for windows on hda1 , and the rest is for kubuntu and linux swap on hda2 and hda3
[08:33] <underdog5004> stdin, I'm not sure...what does that mean?
[08:33] <vzduch> jhutchins: you're right, scrolling up a bit will hold the selection now in Konvi
[08:33] <stdin> underdog5004: try: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys<PHONE_NUMBER>34D43A
[08:33] <underdog5004> gpg: requesting key 8434D43A from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[08:33] <underdog5004> gpg: key 8434D43A: public key "Aren Olson<EMAIL_ADDRESS>imported
[08:33] <underdog5004> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[08:33] <underdog5004> gpg:               imported: 1
[08:33] <underdog5004> sorry for the spam
[08:34] <viraj> my usb speakers are not workig
[08:34] <persen> Hi, looking for a ok bittorent client that supports RSS. anyone? Azuerues is out of the question as it uses to much system resources
[08:34] <stdin> underdog5004: now you have to give the key to apt: gpg --export -a 8434D43A | sudo apt-key add -
[08:35] <underdog5004> stdin, ok
[08:35] <viraj> could somebody tell me why my speakers are not working?
[08:35] <eagles0513875> !patience |viraj
[08:35] <viraj> logitech v10
[08:35] <ubotu> viraj: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:35] <viraj> sorry!!!
[08:35] <eagles0513875> its ok is this a desktop or laptop and was it a clean install of kubuntu
[08:36] <underdog5004> stdin, it totally worked!
[08:36] <underdog5004> thanks a lot
[08:36] <stdin> underdog5004: no problem :)
[08:36] <genii> underdog5004: I see stdin is taking care of you :)
[08:37] <genii> !helpersnack | stdin
[08:37] <ubotu> stdin: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[08:37] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i have isolated the problem
[08:37] <BluesKaj> aha !
[08:37] <eagles0513875> viraj: did u do a clean install
[08:37] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: i compiled libxine from source and now its saying xine cannot initilize any audio devices
[08:37] <viraj> yes my kubuntu installed perfectly
[08:38] <eagles0513875> !helpersnack |eagles051387
[08:38] <ubotu> eagles051387: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[08:38] <chaotic1> heyhow come caffeine will play xvid but mplayer wont
[08:38] <eagles0513875> viraj: open up the mixer and see if anything is muted and unmute it
[08:39] <chaotic1> is their propietary codecs for mplayer
[08:39] <StoneNewt> chaotic1: define 'doesn't'?
[08:39] <eagles0513875> chaotic1: use vlc
[08:39] <StoneNewt> lavc should decode xvid
[08:39] <MaTiAz> hmm
[08:40] <BluesKaj> eagles0513875, i think i'd trust the repos for libxine on gutsy , not the xine source
[08:40] <viraj> no ... unmuting "pc speaker" does not help
[08:40] <MaTiAz> Do you have problems fetching packages from the repositories?
[08:40] <stdin> besides, xvid isn't proprietary
[08:40] <eagles0513875> ok
[08:40] <MaTiAz> I can't install Firefox, it says 404 :|
[08:40] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: if i do can u explain the cuttin in and out
[08:41] <stdin> MaTiAz: try "sudo apt-get update" first
[08:41] <viraj> however, i can change my laptop speaker volume from the volume control on my usb speakers.... interesting :)
[08:41] <venik> The icons in the "Quick Launch" panel are WAY too big, but the place to change them in System Settings is grayed out
[08:41] <BluesKaj> no eagles0513875 , sorry :(
[08:41] <genii> stdin: I heard also earlier today Aussie repos are down
[08:41] <MaTiAz> stdin: Haha, works now, thanks :D
[08:41] <viraj> venik, did u try administrator mode?
[08:41] <venik> no-- let me try
[08:42] <stdin> genii: it was just an out-of-date cache :)
[08:42] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: its ok u rule
[08:42] <venik> viraj-- not available for Appearance
[08:42] <araizen> hi all
[08:42] <araizen> i just installed kubuntu a couple of days ago
[08:42] <eagles0513875> !helpersnack |blueskaj
[08:42] <ubotu> blueskaj: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[08:43] <genii> stdin: Ah, OK
[08:43] <araizen> my pppoe internet connection stops working after it's been connected for a while
[08:43] <venik> Administrator mode, I mean
[08:43] <araizen> anywhere from a few minutes to a half hour
[08:43] <viraj> ok.......
[08:43] <autoscum> hey guys, i got a major problem, my resolution doesnt wanna change above 640x480
[08:43] <elite101> how big is DSL linux the livecd? anyone know?
[08:43] <elite101> i wanna burn the iso
[08:43] <araizen> suddenly no new connections work, though older connections that are still active continue to work
[08:43] <autoscum> and yet it was working fine a few mins ago
[08:43] <autoscum> :/
[08:43] <araizen> does anyone have any idea what the problem might be?
[08:44] <viraj> venik, was ur install smooth?
[08:44] <elite101> autoscum: restart your computer!!! worked for me i had the same prob
[08:44] <chaotic1> what the hell is this
[08:44] <stdin> !xconfig | autoscum
[08:44] <ubotu> autoscum: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[08:44] <venik> yes it was
[08:44] <genii> araizen: Offhand it looks possible to be mismatched MTU between computer and what the pppoe modem/ISP uses
[08:44] <elite101> autoscum: just restart your computer it works fine after it reloads
[08:45] <stdin> autoscum: but restart X first to check, logout and choose "restart X server" from KDMs menu
[08:45] <viraj> i would suggest restarting and logging in as admin.. or root.. it worked for me once
[08:45] <chaotic1> error opening/initializing the selected voideo_out (-vo) device
[08:45] <araizen> genii: can you point me to where to look to fix it?
[08:45] <chaotic1> mplayer keeps telling me that
[08:45] <elite101> crtl-alt-space? or backspace
[08:45] <viraj> eagles?
[08:45] <stdin> chaotic1: what -vo device did you use?
[08:45] <stdin> elite101: nither
[08:45] <stdin> elite101:  logout and choose "restart X server" from KDMs menu
[08:46] <chaotic1> what do u mean vo device
[08:46] <stdin> chaotic1: what command did you use?
[08:46] <genii> araizen: If there is some web interface to your modem/router perhaps tinker with the MTU settings there.
[08:46] <rrbiz> skype's unreliable in linux :(
[08:46] <chaotic1> nothing just opened it from kde menu
[08:47] <stdin> chaotic1: you using the mplayer GUI?
[08:47] <viraj> my usb speakers r not working but i can control my laptop volume from them .... ???
[08:47] <chaotic1> Yeah
[08:47] <araizen> genii: okay, i'll look into it, thanks
[08:47] <chaotic1> Yeah the gui
[08:47] <chaotic1> never prompted me for a vo device
[08:48] <autoscum> ubotu: can you repeat that, please?
[08:48] <stdin> chaotic1: right click, go to preferences, go to the video tab, and change it to x11 or xv is that dosen't work
[08:49] <autoscum> problem repeat: my resolution wont go above 640x480, yet it was working fine a few minutes ago
[08:49] <genii> araizen: There is a way to change the mtu of your ethernet adapter also, eg: sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 1492   For a permanent change, /etc/network/interfaces needs to be altered
[08:50] <genii> 1492 is a standard type mtu for pppoe
[08:50] <stdin> autoscum:restart X first to check if it's intermittant, logout and choose "restart X server" from KDMs menu
[08:50] <autoscum> it happened when i restarted X
[08:50] <stdin> !xconfig | autoscum: try this
[08:50] <ubotu> autoscum: try this: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[08:50] <araizen> genii: thanks
[08:50] <genii> araizen: Some info here:    http://www.debianadmin.com/change-mtu-maximum-transmission-unit-of-network-interface.html
[08:51] <stdin> autoscum: use the 2nd command (the one with -phigh in it)
[08:51] <autoscum> stdin: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[08:51] <root_> how do i stop dhcp from overwriting my /etc/resolve.conf?
[08:51] <autoscum> what now? ;/
[08:51] <stdin> autoscum: try "sudo fuser -vik /var/cache/debconf/config.dat"
[08:52] <Karti> !dvd
[08:52] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[08:52] <autoscum> it worked now
[08:52] <eagles0513875> BluesKaj: does gutsy come with kde 3.5.7
[08:52] <autoscum> my video card is ATI Radeon 9200 SE i should choose the ati driver, right, stdin ?
[08:53] <stdin> autoscum: yeah
[08:53] <kaic> hi. my internet in kubuntu seems slower than in windows. what could it be?
[08:53] <autoscum> well there are marked resolutions there
[08:54] <autoscum> that reach to 1024x768
[08:54] <jhutchins> kaic: Did you disable ipv6?
[08:54] <viraj> has anybody had probs with logitech v10 speakers?
[08:55] <autoscum> viraj: if they're a 5.1 surround system, i couldn't get them to work
[08:55] <jhutchins> viraj: are they USB or somethng/
[08:55] <lewix> stdin,
[08:55] <stdin> yep
[08:56] <lewix> stdin, we're looking at the data column or number of packets
[08:56] <autoscum> stdin: like i said, there are marked resolutions in the next screen that reach up to 1024x768 after i click ok nothing changes :/
[08:56] <lewix> stdin, read 15300 packets sent 614000
[08:57] <stdin> autoscum: try restarting KDM, open konsole (save everything if you haven't), and type in sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[08:57] <stdin> lewix: look in the airodump window
[08:58] <lewix> stdin, 787 data
[08:58] <viraj> they are usb's
[08:58] <stdin> lewix: you need a LOT more
[08:58] <lewix> 852500 packets
[08:58] <lewix> geez...I thought it was the packets lol
[08:58] <stdin> lewix: no, has to be data
[08:59] <stdin> lewix: leave it over night :p
[08:59] <lewix> stdin, I thought it was faster though. how long does it take you
[09:00] <autoscum> wow, thanks, stdin
[09:00] <eagles0513875> does anyone have a 64bit testing system
[09:00] <autoscum> that worked
[09:00] <fotoflo> hey all, where do i choose default applications for filetypes in kubuntu?
[09:00] <lewix> stdin, should I use that to speed things up : sudo aireplay -0 ath0 -a BSSID ath0
[09:01] <autoscum> all hail stdin =)
[09:01] <autoscum> thanks a lot
[09:01] <stdin> lewix: depends on the net, and you can try
[09:01] <viraj> usb speakers
[09:01] <stdin> autoscum: no problem :)
[09:02] <autoscum> one more problem, tho. i cant run mozilla firefox, theres no shortcut... whats the command for it?
[09:04] <lewix> stdin, so in my case it is: sudo aireplay -0 aireplay ath1 -a BSSID ath1, right?
[09:04] <stdin> yeah
[09:04] <viraj> fotoflo, does the option come in ur metabar in konqueror?
[09:05] <fotoflo> viraj: would that affect what happens when i open a file in firefox?
[09:05] <autoscum> stdin: do you know the command to run mozilla firefox? the shortcut is missing... :?
[09:05] <stdin> autoscum: "firefox"
[09:05] <lewix> stdin, an error ...guess i have to wait lol
[09:05] <stdin> heh :p
[09:06] <stdin> the pains of a cracker hey
[09:06] <autoscum> 'Could not run the specified command.'
[09:06] <autoscum> :/
[09:06] <_m0ns00n> Hey
[09:06] <autoscum> Adept says that mozilla is installed
[09:06] <autoscum> weird o0
[09:06] <_m0ns00n> After installing a .deb, how can I poll where the files installed to?
[09:06] <_m0ns00n> Google is not my friend =)
[09:06] <lewix> oh its working
[09:06] <_m0ns00n> It didn't show any results on that
[09:06] <viraj> fotoflo, do you use firefox to browse stuff on your home?
[09:06] <lewix> sending deAuth to broadcast
[09:06] <stdin> autoscum: the package is called firefox, not mozilla
[09:06] <autoscum> i see
[09:07] <stdin> _m0ns00n: dpkg -L PackageName
[09:07] <_m0ns00n> ah thanks
[09:07] <lewix> stdin, do I leave it like this:  it keeps sending deAuth to broadcast
[09:08] <stdin> lewix: doing that is an attempt to get the router to send some ARP requests, that's all it does
[09:08] <stdin> lewix: if it already is then there's nothing you can really do, but wait
[09:08] <fotoflo> viraj: no, im trying to open a video from a web page
[09:08] <fotoflo> want it to open in VLC
[09:09] <lewix> stdin, so I can stop the process of the latest command
[09:09] <stdin> lewix: yeah
[09:14] <vbhide> you need the vlc plugin fotoflo....
[09:14] <fotoflo> vlc plugin? for firefox?
[09:15] <vbhide> sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd mozilla-plugin-vlc libdvdcss2 is all this in?
[09:15] <vbhide> or try entering this:
[09:16] <vbhide> sudo apt-get update
[09:16] <vbhide> sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-esd mozilla-plugin-vlc libdvdcss2
[09:16] <vbhide> hope it helps
[09:16] <MaTiAz> Hey, how do I mount my Windows partition in Kubuntu Live CD?
[09:16] <MaTiAz> I need to back up some important stuff
[09:17] <NightBird> MaTiAz: is it an ntfs partition?
[09:17] <MaTiAz> NightBird: Yeah
[09:17] <NightBird> !ntfs | MaTiAz
[09:17] <ubotu> MaTiAz: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:18] <MaTiAz> thanks
[09:18] <autoscum> does anyone know how to change my keyboard layouts with alt+shift?
[09:18] <NightBird> (it had a '?' in it, which windows doesn't like, but... )
[09:19] <autoscum> i did edit my xorg.conf file and restarted X, but it doesn't work :/
[09:21] <AcE13> sudo mkdir '/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc' <--- gives no errors
[09:21] <vbhide> usb speakers dont work.... logitech....
[09:21] <takumi_> Hello
[09:21] <AcE13> but when installing a font pack.. I get error /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is not a directory
[09:21] <sveweck> autoscum: there is only one easy way and it requires that you don't use Alt in other key combos anymore. is that ok?
[09:22] <autoscum> it's okay :)
[09:22] <autoscum> logixoul: throw it at me x)
[09:22] <stdin> AcE13: don't worry about that, it's an old dir for fonts, the error is harmless
[09:23] <vzduch> dayum.. can Kaffeine be configured so that it stays on top even if off-focus?
[09:23] <AcE13> stdin: apparently I need that dir to get artwiz font working?
[09:23] <vzduch> VLC has an option, but it doesn't work
[09:23] <AcE13> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=453790&highlight=artwiz
[09:23] <lewix> stdin, well i have to get off internet. Ill talk to you later. thanks for everything. I'll let you knoe
[09:23] <logixoul> ok so: systemsettings -> regional -> layout -> xkb options -> enable them and make Alt a thirdlevel chooser
[09:23] <logixoul> autoscum: ^
[09:24] <vzduch> nvm, got it :)
[09:24] <stdin> lewix: no problem, see you later
[09:24] <logixoul> autoscum: then it becomes possible to assign alt+shift as a shortcut (as well as ctrl+alt and win+alt, etc)
[09:24] <stdin> AcE13: install the packages, they make all the dirs they need
[09:24] <logixoul> autoscum: you may need to press it as shift+alt though
[09:25] <autoscum> hold on, what do you mean a 'thirdlevel chooser'?
[09:25] <autoscum> oh, got it
[09:25] <logixoul> ;)
[09:25] <logixoul> I don't know its meaning either
[09:25] <logixoul> except that it removes the "modifier" flag from keys
[09:26] <vbhide> ok bye!
[09:26] <vbhide> goodnight
[09:27] <autoscum> logixoul: there was a better way to do it, i just cant seem to find it :/
[09:27] <logixoul> autoscum: it might have involved xbindkeys or imwheel
[09:27] <logixoul> or xmodmap
[09:28] <autoscum> if you can find me the thing with xorg.conf
[09:28] <autoscum> cuz i did it from memory, lol
[09:30] <rrbiz> yo someone good with smb or nfs, trying to share some folders are neither are doing it
[09:30] <autoscum> stdin, you're a smart dude, can you tell me how to switch between kbd layouts with alt+shift?
[09:30] <autoscum> =)
[09:32] <autoscum> guess not
[09:32] <stdin> autoscum: never needed to, looked in system settings -> Regional & Language ?
[09:32] <autoscum> yeah, i did
[09:32] <autoscum> but there's no alt+shift shortcut key
[09:33] <autoscum> i did something before when i was using kubuntu. i edited xorg.conf to make it change and the scroll lock led to light when it's changed
[09:33] <autoscum> :P
[09:33] <stdin> autoscum: not even in the Xkb tab in Keyboard Layout ?
[09:33] <autoscum> err
[09:34] <autoscum> i cant seem to find any
[09:37] <autoscum> !layouts
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about layouts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:37] <autoscum> !keyboard
[09:37] <tzanger> has anyone here experienced LONNNNNNG delays/lockups with 7.04?
[09:37] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[09:37] <stdin> autoscum: http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5905/image1gq6.png ?
[09:37] <tzanger> I thought it was perhpas something starving out the memory allocation but it doesn't appear to be the case
[09:37] <genii> I found something about keyboard layouts and how to switch between them here https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[09:37] <joakim_> I live in sweden and cant play a region 1 (usa) DVD in my laptop, is there a way around this?
[09:37] <tzanger> this is on a thinkpad t60 (ATI chipset) but I'm using the standard VESA driver
[09:38] <autoscum> well i dont think that has anything to do with it
[09:38] <autoscum> it doesnt work even tho i checked it :P
[09:42] <tzanger> it seems to definitely be linked to HDD access
[09:43] <autoscum> stdin: here's my input device section of xorg.conf
[09:43] <autoscum> http://pastebin.com/m433ea148
[09:43] <stdin> working?
[09:44] <tzanger> aha
[09:44] <tzanger> kontact and kopete are taking up ALL my memory
[09:44] <tzanger> 1G RAM and 0.5G swap
[09:44] <tzanger> wtf
[09:46] <autoscum> tzanger: i second that opinion.. wtf?!
[09:48] <autoscum> stdin: nope
[09:48] <autoscum> stdin: sorry for the late reply, i didnt notice you wrote
[09:49] <stdin> hmm, not sure then
[09:49] <tzanger> I restart them and they behave
[09:49] <tzanger> so far
[09:49] <tzanger> kopete however has grabbed 30% of my memory
[09:49] <tzanger> 51%
[09:49] <tzanger> 60%
[09:49] <tzanger> 76%
[09:49] <tzanger> what the hell
[09:49] <slacker403> how much ram does a defualt kubuntu with KDE use ?
[09:49] <autoscum> !mp3
[09:49] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:50] <slacker403> nothing else running
[09:50] <slacker403> no spcial effects
[09:50] <tzanger> I'm running 213M
[09:50] <tzanger> as shown in top
[09:50] <tzanger> that's with a behaved kontact running
[09:50] <tzanger> (5% memory)
[09:50] <autoscum> !easykubuntu
[09:51] <autoscum> er
[09:51] <autoscum> !easykubuntu
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easykubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <vzduch> ?
[09:51] <autoscum> !codecs
[09:51] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:52] <stdin> autoscum: don't use easyubuntu or automatix, can do damage
[09:52] <stdin> !easyubuntu
[09:52] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[09:53] <stdin> !automatix
[09:53] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:53] <autoscum> !worksforme
[09:53] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[09:53] <autoscum> i see
[09:53] <autoscum> so, stdin, where can i get audiocodecs for amarok? when it says it doesnt have mp3 support it crashes
[09:54] <jussi01> !mp3
[09:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:54] <stdin> autoscum: are you on feisty ?
[09:54] <autoscum> yeah, 7.04
[09:54] <stdin> autoscum: should just download it for you then IIRC
[09:55] <stdin> autoscum: if not, make sure you have multiverse enabled and run "sudo apt-get install libxine-extrecodecs
[09:55] <autoscum> what's multiverse? o0
[09:55] <autoscum> !multiverse
[09:55] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:00] <autoscum> stdin: it worked :)) thanks again x)
[10:00] <stdin> :)
[10:00] <autoscum> stdin: now to get back to the @$%tty keyboard layout problem
[10:01] <autoscum> !keyboard
[10:01] <ubotu> To find out how to switch your keyboard layout, See https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts
[10:01] <autoscum> !shortcuts
[10:01] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[10:09] <jhutchins> autoscum: I've got a problem with a different distro where it's not accepting any of the keyboard shortcuts I configured in KDE.  Haven't tracked it down yet, it could be a 3.5.7 bug, but it's more likely to be a distro-specific problem.
[10:09] <autoscum> jhutchins: i dont think so, im just not doing something right.. like always =)
[10:09] <jhutchins> I installed a new USB keyboard and my menu key doesn't work any more either.
[10:10] <jhutchins> ...in fact, why don't I work on this a bit now.
[10:12] <Kjellviz> hi, ive got ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop installed on it, i had my mediakeys working fine in gnome but they dont in KDE, any ideas ?   (im using a Microsoft wireless entertainment desktop keyboard)
[10:14] <autoscum> jhutchins: good luck :)
[10:15] <jussi01> !shortcuts | Kjellviz
[10:15] <ubotu> Kjellviz: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[10:16] <Kjellviz> jussi01: thanks
[10:17] <jussi01> :)
[10:20] <logixoul> Kjellviz: btw, if your multimedia keys aren't recognized by kde, there's something to try before resorting to keytouch: systemsettings->regional->layout->choose your model from the list
[10:20] <logixoul> Kjellviz: (and if it's not there, try ones that seem similar. then try them all, one by one)
[10:20] <autoscum> !lampp
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <autoscum> !xampp
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <Kjellviz> logixoul: ok, im trying to find mediakeys in the shortcut settings
[10:22] <slacker403> how much does kubuntu use ram wise as default with kde ?
[10:22] <logixoul> Kjellviz: no, you don't get it. Mediakeys aren't separate from the rest of your keys. They're just stuff you can assign to a command. E.g. you could bind Play/Pause to a mediakey or to Win+P - same principle.
[10:23] <logixoul> slacker403: dunno but I have successfully ran Kubuntu Breezy with OpenOffice.org on a 64MB RAM system.
[10:23] <slacker403> with KDE ?
[10:23] <logixoul> yes
[10:23] <logixoul> it was kinda slow, of course
[10:24] <logixoul> and I did have 1GB swap
[10:24] <vzduch> CPU[AMD Athlon clocked at 900.075 Mhz]   Kernel[Linux 2.6.20-16-lowlatency i686]   Up[-5:33-]   Mem[-145.0/757.5MB-]   HDD[-280GB(40%used)-]   Procs[-117-]   Client[Shell wrapper]
[10:24] <vzduch> slacker403: this w/o cached stuff and while watching a DVD
[10:25] <Kjellviz> logixoul: no i DO get it, the thing is i cant find play/pause next stop etc in shortcut list
[10:25] <Kjellviz> logixoul: hence i cannot assign any mediakey to it
[10:26] <logixoul> Kjellviz: that's because "play" or "next" etc, are not universally defined things. you need to look for them in your mediaplayer, such as Amarok.
[10:26] <logixoul> hint: they're called global shortcuts
[10:27] <saizai> is there a good reason why ~/.xsession-errors is 6G? Or better, some way I can prevent that from happening again? I can't even start Amarok 'cause I'm now at 0 free space :(
[10:29] <jhutchins> Kjellviz: There's a media keyboard support package, but I haven't figured out how to use it yet.
[10:30] <logixoul> saizai: open the file in a text editor and look for repetitive lines. This should give you a hint about what's going on :)
[10:30] <Kjellviz> ok, ill look in my mediaplayer =)
[10:31] <saizai> logixoul: already deleted. (though it doesn't seem to have chaned df -h...?)
[10:31] <Kjellviz> brb
[10:32] <slacker403> vzduch, so how much emmory ws it using there 145 mb ?
[10:34] <vzduch> slacker403: yep, 145 MB for actual programs (KDE, Konsole, Krusader, Kaffeine, KMail and the tray apps).. there are probably some 500 MB more shown as used, but these are for cache
[10:35] <slacker403> im saying what is actually sed
[10:35] <jhutchins> Ah, that media keyboard package is lineak.
[10:35] <slacker403> do you htink its possible for me to use kernel + kde in under 150 mb ?
[10:37] <vzduch> slacker403: try it :)
[10:37] <slacker403> whats yoru gut feeling :P
[10:38] <vzduch> my guess is: it'll be f***ing slow, but it'll work
[10:39] <slacker403> well the min requirements is 80 MB of ram
[10:39] <slacker403> for KDE
[10:40] <Bytepoet> any way to make one machines sound output to another machine?
[10:40] <Bytepoet> both running /04
[10:40] <Bytepoet> 7.04*
[10:43] <serenity> hi
[10:43] <stoned> hi
[10:43] <stoned> that movie serenity sucked btw
[10:43] <saizai> logixoul: any idea why rm'ing the huge error file hasn't changed my disk free space? it still claims it's at 0 free, though the file is gone. :(
[10:43] <stoned> worse than that firefly crap
[10:44] <serenity> i installed compiz fusion, but my window deco is away.
[10:44] <stoned> serenity: away?
[10:44] <serenity> yeah
[10:44] <MaTiAz> Argh
[10:44] <stoned> you mean you don't have it?
[10:44] <neusonce> ok iv just switched from ubuntu to kubuntu, IM IN LOVE ...
[10:44] <stoned> kde > *
[10:45] <serenity> 100% right stoned
[10:45] <Kjellviz> anyone know if theres a program avail to adjust the LEDs on a Dell XPS M1710?
[10:45] <Bytepoet> neusonce, i just did the same.... love it.
[10:45] <MaTiAz> The update system in Linux is like 51312^1235 times better than Windows Update
[10:45] <stoned> kde > food/sex/music/fun/bowling
[10:45] <stoned> :D
[10:45] <MaTiAz> stoned: lol true
[10:45] <neusonce> MAN
[10:45] <stoned> serenity: I've never used it before, however I have experience with beryl
[10:45] <Bytepoet> neusonce:  did your vid card install go okay?
[10:46] <neusonce> i lost 3 years of work last week ' thank you vista" so my hatred for windows is beyond anything known
[10:46] <stoned> serenity: see if compiz fusion has channel on freenode.  or ask in #beryl or #compiz to find out where to ask
[10:46] <stoned> neusonce: use it.
[10:46] <stoned> but positively
[10:46] <neusonce> yes
[10:47] <neusonce> i have a new machine 4k worth
[10:47] <stoned> what is it?
[10:47] <stoned> 4k? goddamn
[10:47] <neusonce>  every thing is state of the art
[10:47] <stoned> what did you get?
[10:47] <runlevelten> Is it a hovercraft?
[10:47] <Bytepoet> mine was a little bumpy, i had trouble with the 8800GTS
[10:47] <tzanger> interesting
[10:47] <tzanger> kontact crashed with SIGABRT
[10:47] <Bytepoet> and it would only recognize 4gb of my ram :-/
[10:47] <tzanger> that's unusual
[10:47] <neusonce>  in ubuntu when i installed the video driver that was recomended for me by unbuntu  it ruined my screen it was tiny
[10:48] <stoned> try 64bit
[10:48] <stoned> amd64 or ia64
[10:48] <neusonce> the " shitty" in built driver work perfectly
[10:48] <neusonce> i just switched from ubuntu 64 bit
[10:48] <stoned> not you
[10:48] <stoned> the guy with the ram problem
[10:48] <neusonce>  i spent 4 days trying to install java and flash
[10:48] <neusonce> im almost cryed
[10:48] <Bytepoet> oh, i got it figured out, runnin at all 8gb
[10:48] <stoned> neusonce: well
[10:48] <stoned> neusonce: its a piece of cake
[10:48] <rustalot> tzanger: what's SIGABRT mean?
[10:49] <tzanger> rustalot: it's just another signal that can be used for process communication
[10:49] <stoned> neusonce: you create a file with dd, you format the file to a file system, with mkfs.ext3 or something, then you mount that file as a block device using loopback.  Then you can install a 32bit chroot ubuntu inside that file.  In there you can have all your 32bit apps and it will work transparently with 64bit os
[10:50] <stoned> its really quite trivial
[10:50] <stoned> just need to read a bit
[10:50] <stoned> or, use nspluginwrapper
[10:50] <neusonce> *STARES*
[10:50] <stoned> whichever you want, they both work great for me
[10:50] <neusonce> im a linux baby
[10:50] <neusonce>  dont talk to me like that
[10:50] <stoned> lol
[10:50] <neusonce> my brain will explode
[10:51] <MaTiAz> stoned: That seems pretty interestng
[10:52] <neusonce>  no, i need blender and smilier apps like that for work, and iv already noticed that linux handels thouse tasks far far far far x 7734239 times better than vista
[10:52] <BluesKaj> stoned , x86 32bit runs fine on AMD 64 ...no hassles at all .. no need for loopbacks etc
[10:52] <stoned> BluesKaj: there is a need
[10:52] <neusonce>  and, becuse im in a computer realted industry i guess being competent  with linux would be a major advantage
[10:52] <stoned> BluesKaj: read the entire conv.
[10:53] <BluesKaj> well, I haven't encountered any probs
[10:53] <stoned> BluesKaj: using loopback becuase I don't have any spare partitions to use for a 32bit chroot
[10:53] <logixoul> saizai: hmm, I did once have the same problem. don't remember how I solved it, or what had caused it. You might wanna try rebooting. What springs to mind now is, "something" had been trying to write to disk some data all along, and at the first possibility (after the rm) it just happens.
[10:53] <Bytepoet> heh...harder to fire me now that i know the basics of rm -rf
[10:53] <stoned> BluesKaj: so you can use a file as a blockdevice/hdd
[10:53] <Bytepoet> theyre skerred!
[10:54] <stoned> Bytepoet: without opening the manpage, what is -r and what is -f
[10:54] <stoned> ?
[10:54] <BluesKaj> too much stuff ! stoned ;0
[10:54] <Bytepoet> r is recursive
[10:54] <stoned> BluesKaj: what do you mean
[10:54] <Bytepoet> f makes it not care
[10:55] <stoned> ok so good
[10:55] <stoned> keep up the good work
[10:55] <stoned> Bytepoet: now learn some shell scripting
[10:55] <stoned> :)
[10:56] <Bytepoet> if they fire me, the three most important skills i'll need is rm, cron jobs, and.... remoting in to do the dirty work
[10:56] <Bytepoet> oh, and ontop of that.... learning how to re-write my resume'
[10:57] <stoned> i used to work at cox communications
[10:57] <Bytepoet> did i mention how much i love the ubuntu community?
[10:57] <stoned> I got fired for hacking the internal database
[10:57] <Bytepoet> oh yeah?  i, at comcast....
[10:57] <stoned> looking up cuztomer info
[10:57] <stoned> hehe
[10:57] <MaTiAz> stoned: haha, was it worth it?
[10:57] <stoned> bugging people i know on irc
[10:57] <Bytepoet> word....nothing really interesting in my cust info
[10:57] <stoned> scaring people on line who have cox cuz i can look up their addy/billing info by ip
[10:57] <Bytepoet> LOL yeah
[10:58] <stoned> it was hella fun
[10:58] <stoned> one time
[10:58] <Bytepoet> wow, you got fired for that?
[10:58] <stoned> I left a window open
[10:58] <Bytepoet> i best watch myself
[10:58] <stoned> and went to the bathroom
[10:58] <stoned> manager saw it
[10:58] <stoned> i was fired on the spot
[10:58] <stoned> oops
[10:58] <Bytepoet> heh, none of my managers would know what theyre looking at....
[10:58] <stoned> but its ok