[04:57] <sfllaw_> @schedule now
[04:58] <sfllaw_> @schedule montreal
[04:58] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Montreal: Current meeting: Ubuntu Development Team | 09 Jan 10:00: LoCo Team | 09 Jan 11:00: Forum Council | 09 Jan 16:00: Community Council | 10 Jan 07:00: Edubuntu | 11 Jan 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[04:58] <sfllaw_> Uhm, hello?
[04:58] <siretart> sfllaw_: looks like the meeting has started 8 mins ago, according to Ubugtu
[04:58] <siretart> ;)
[04:59] <sfllaw_> I'm not netsplit am I?
[04:59] <sfllaw_> I see nothing.
[04:59] <ogra> sfllaw_, read your mail ;)
[04:59] <sfllaw_> I can't.
[04:59] <sfllaw_> I lost my machine.
[04:59] <sfllaw_> I can /ping it.
[04:59] <sfllaw_> But the DNS hasn't updated itself.
[04:59] <ogra> "we've decided to skip this week's distro team meeting.", > Meetings will resume next week at 2100UTC.
[04:59] <ogra> >
[04:59] <ogra> Correction, 1600UTC next week
[04:59] <sfllaw_> I see.
[05:00] <ogra> from a mail from scott
[05:00] <sfllaw_> Thanks.
[05:00] <fabbione> i don't have this email
[05:00] <fabbione> when has been sent?
[05:00] <sfllaw_> I'll tell the fridge guys.
[05:01] <fabbione> ogra: when did Scott sent the email?
[05:03] <tkamppeter> I did not get this mail, too.
[05:04] <tkamppeter> But I had already the feeling that it will not make much sense to have a meeting now, as nearly no one is talking on #ubuntu-devel, they all seem still on vacation.
[05:16] <cjwatson> sorry, we only decided that today
[05:17] <cjwatson> it's not as bad as a meeting you didn't expect ...
[05:18] <fabbione> cjwatson: i agree, but it would still be nice to know with a bit of extra notice...
[05:18] <cjwatson> but anyway, the summary was that most people have been on holiday, a bunch of people are still on holiday, Scott and I have been setting up phone calls with people, and it wasn't going to be an especially useful meeting
[05:18] <cjwatson> fabbione: sorry, it was announced the moment it was decided
[05:19] <fabbione> cjwatson: no problem... i will ship my wife to you in the meantime since i got nothing for being here ;)
[05:32] <sfllaw_> cjwatson: You're getting a mail-order wife!
[05:32] <sfllaw_> How exciting!
[07:41] <nixternal> @schedule chicago
[07:41] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Chicago: 09 Jan 09:00: LoCo Team | 09 Jan 10:00: Forum Council | 09 Jan 15:00: Community Council | 10 Jan 06:00: Edubuntu | 11 Jan 15:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 16 Jan 14:00: Technical Board
[07:51] <nixternal> heh, change that again Ubugtu
[07:51] <nixternal> @schedule
[07:52] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 09 Jan 15:00: LoCo Team | 09 Jan 16:00: Forum Council | 09 Jan 21:00: Community Council | 10 Jan 12:00: Edubuntu | 11 Jan 12:00: Kubuntu Developers | 11 Jan 21:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[08:12] <fdoving> schedule oslo
[08:12] <fdoving> @schedule oslo
[08:12] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Oslo: 09 Jan 16:00: LoCo Team | 09 Jan 17:00: Forum Council | 09 Jan 20:00: Community Council | 09 Jan 23:00: Kubuntu Developers | 10 Jan 13:00: Edubuntu | 11 Jan 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[08:12] <fdoving> do-able.
[08:15] <nixternal> heh, fdoving the cc meeting is incorrect, i accidentally changed it instead of the kubuntu meeting
[08:15] <nixternal> fixed now
[08:15] <nixternal> CC is 2100 on the 9th
[08:16] <fdoving> i'm only up for the kubuntu meeting.
[08:19] <Seveas> woah
[08:19] <Seveas> lots of meetings on the ninth
[08:37] <nixternal> hrmm, i wonder if the Forum Council and the LoCo meeting will run into each other


[12:02] <jc-denton> thx
[12:05] <mxpxpod> tseng: do you use spamassassin?
[12:05] <tseng> mxpxpod: no, i got tired of fooling around with all that stuff
[12:05] <tseng> gmail does it for free
[12:05] <mxpxpod> tseng: heh
[12:06] <tseng> without draining my time and server resources
[12:06] <mxpxpod> tseng: no, I meant on your client
[12:06] <mxpxpod> with evo
[12:06] <tseng> oh, definately not
[12:06] <tseng> i have 5 pcs between work and home, client side anything is out
[12:07] <mxpxpod> heh
[12:07] <tseng> dinner
[12:07] <tseng> mxpxpod: cya
[12:08] <Den> tseng: Ahhh - I was just told the same thing in real life!!!
[12:10] <Den> Anyone know if the  dapper daily live iso built properly today?  I see the timestamp on the archive is today. Is there any way to tell if the build completed properly?
[12:18] <jc-denton> humm
[12:18] <jc-denton> i upgraded
[12:19] <jc-denton> but now i get this: http://rafb.net/paste/results/huKDEI45.html
[12:29] <jc-denton> well i'll probably try later
[12:29] <jc-denton> but first thx a lot for help
[12:34] <AlinuxOS> alive?
[01:47] <kent> hmm.  the new update manager by michael vogt seems to ask me for my root-password, which i dont have enabled on a default breezy.  Running with sudo seems to work though.
[01:56] <johnl> i386 flight cd3 b0rks on boot for me (well before any gui might appear) with "no record for /block/ram0 in database" messages followed by  "can't access tty" message.  this is with an external usb cd drive.
[01:57] <johnl> this a known issue?  I see mention of initramfs broken in the topic...
[01:59] <johnl> on an ibm x40 laptop
[02:51] <shaya> anyone around
[02:51] <shaya> can someone try typing 44 - 44 (enter) in gcalctool and see if it works?
[02:51] <shaya> wondering if I'm going nuts
[02:58] <kent> 44-44 is 0 in my gcalctool. :)
[03:07] <LaserJock> is xserver-common gone for good? should we replace build-deps with x-common instead?
[03:10] <tseng> x11-common, no?
[03:11] <LaserJock> tseng: ok, yeah. Why does that keep changing?
[03:12] <tseng> x-commono + xserver-common = x11-common
[03:12] <LaserJock> oh, ok
[03:46] <shaya> kent: hmm, something must be wrong, keep getting invalid expression
[03:47] <shaya> malformed expression that is
[03:48] <kent> shaya, this is not supportchannel. ask in #ubuntu.  (and are you sure you are typing in the correct expressions then?)
[03:48] <shaya> yes
[03:48] <shaya> weird
[03:48] <shaya> unsure
[03:48] <shaya> not asking for support
[03:49] <shaya> I guess I dont understand what the "use arithmetic precedence" option means
[03:49] <shaya> as it messes things up
[03:50] <kent> if you dont know what it is, why are you using it then?
[03:50] <shaya> good Q, wondering how it got set
[03:50] <shaya> I assume it lets you right an entire equation
[03:50] <shaya> but a normal x-y (enter) doesn't work with it enables
[03:51] <shaya> but works fine without it enabled
[03:51] <shaya> just dont see the entire equation
[05:36] <Mez> doko: ping
[06:04] <psusi> isn't partman the partitioner used in the setup cd?  why doesn't it have a -udeb target package?
[06:53] <Mez> Kamion, ping
[07:40] <StevenK> doko: Any plans to upload a vnc4 that doesn't FTBFS? Since it should also stop depending on xserver-common.
[08:24] <Mithrandir> Den: now I am.
[08:50] <Den> Mithrandir: Hey! (I gotta find out how to get Konversation to beep me when I'm mesaged)
[08:51] <Den> Mithrandir: Anyway  - how's the iso build going?  I saw the timestamps updated in dapper-live, and did an rsync, which only dl's about 500KB, iirc.
[08:52] <Den> Mithrandir: but I didn't get an email from you yet, so I was waiting a bit in the hopes I'd ge an email, & would know if the iso built ok & I should burn it & try it.
[08:52] <Mithrandir> Den: yeah, image still failing to build; some xine stuff is uninstallable.
[08:52] <Mithrandir> Den: the timestamp is misleading.  It uses the last successfully built image.
[08:53] <Den> Mithrandir: Ah. .... 1) do you have ian iso I can dl directly from you (as we tried last week)
[08:53] <Mithrandir> Den: no, sorry
[08:54] <Mithrandir> Den: though, I verified that the image booted on my machine with an ieee1394 drive, so it should be good to go.
[08:54] <Den> Mithrandir: 2) Is there a way I can look at the dapper-live-iso webpage & tell by myself if it built ok (so I can know I should try to rsync & burn & try)?
[08:55] <Den> Mithrandir: Can I get that iso from you that you verified worked ok?  (Is that the question you said "no" to?)
[08:55] <Mithrandir> Den: it's on a machine in the office, I can give it to you tomorrow.
[08:56] <Den> Mithrandir: Ok, that's fine.  Will    you email me & le me know the details of the dl link, & anything else I should know?
[08:57] <Den> Mithrandir: Cant you ssh into your office machine & set up a link for me to dl from?
[08:57] <Mithrandir> Den: sure
[08:57] <Mithrandir> Den: no, I don't have ssh through the FW enabled.
[08:57] <Den> Mithrandir: I am shocked! :)
[08:58] <Den> Mithrandir: BTW, iirc, you're in Norway. & you work for ubuntu. & cannonical is ubuntu.  & cannonical is in isle of mann.   & is that where your office is?
[09:00] <Mithrandir> Den: my office is just downtown here in Oslo.
[09:00] <Den> Mithrandir: Is that an ubuntu office?
[09:01] <Mithrandir> Den: the people working from Canonical are mostly working from home, but I and a some of the UK people are working from a real office.
[09:01] <Mithrandir> Den: no, it's a company I helped start a few years back and I still do occasional sysadmin stuff for them.  In return, I have my workplace there.
[09:01] <Den> Mithrandir: Also, how come you are able to get the iso to build at your office, but it won't build on the dapper-live iso server?
[09:02] <Mithrandir> Den: because on the server, I can't do evil tricks and upgrades, it's a fresh install
[09:03] <Den> Mithrandir: is it a matter of on your system you cut out the bad parts that block the build on the iso at the server?
[09:05] <Mithrandir> Den: http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/testing/dapper_probs.html ; if you look at that page, ubuntu-desktop is uninstallable.  As long as it stays that way, new live fs builds will fail.
[09:12] <Den> Mithrandir: Remember about a week ago we discussed a bit about that "base" system, and was there a way to build that into a bootable iso.  I think we stopped talking about that cause you thought the reqular dapper iso was about to be properly built.  Givne that that looks unlikley right now, is it possible to build that "base" iso, so I can a) make sure the boot from firewire scsi cd works, and then when that's ok, b: try the latest ker
[09:12] <Den> ile on external disk - disconnected" problem BenC told me to get the latest kernel for.?
[09:12] <lifeless> doko: around ?
[09:13] <Mithrandir> Den: yes, it's possible, no, I can't do it.  If you download an ISO, replace the casper/filesystem.squashfs file on it with the base file you downloaded, that should work.
[09:14] <Den> Mithrandir: Please clarify:
[09:15] <Den> Mithrandir: 1) You cant do it cause it's impossible, or work constraints, or???
[09:15] <Mithrandir> Den: because I'm not the one who has set up the cd build system.
[09:16] <Den> Mithrandir: 2) If i dl _which_ iso?  From _where_?  Replace the file with _what_ "base file I dld"?
[09:17] <Mithrandir> Den: I'm sorry, but it's a sunday for me and I don't have time for hand-holding you through the process of rebuilding an ISO image.
[09:17] <Den> Mithrandir: Can you, & would it be worth it, for you to get whatever is needed to do it?
[09:17] <Den> Mithrandir: Ok.  May I save those questions for your work day, & ask you then?
[10:02] <doko> lifeless: good morning
[10:02] <doko> Mez: pong
[10:03] <doko> StevenK: hmm, not really. the current one includes it's own XFree86 source, needs to be changed to use the xorg server
[10:06] <Mez> doko: is libstdc++5 going to be removed from ubuntu ?
[10:07] <doko> Mez: for dapper it probably will stay in universe
[10:08] <Mez> doko: I'm jsut wondering - as I've come across a package that is in non-free (rar) that requres libstdc++5 (binary package!)
[10:12] <doko> Mez: that probably should be rebuild using the default g++
[10:12] <Mez> doko - upstream havent done it yet
[10:12] <Mez> and they dont distribute the source
[10:12] <Mez> damn non-free
[10:14] <zyga> hello
[10:22] <pef> hello
[10:29] <lifeless> hey doko
[10:29] <ajmitch> evening
[10:29] <lifeless> so I wanted to chat about the python install method/policy
[10:29] <lifeless> I had a semi-flame chat on debian-devel a few weeks back, which actually resulted in a good idea or two
[10:30] <lifeless> hey ajmitch
[10:31] <Mez> hmm
[10:32] <Mez> does anyone on here have a seen script?
[10:32] <Mez> !seen infinity
[10:35] <doko> lifeless: yes, and the the current one on debian-python
[10:35] <lifeless> doko: I guess I should read that ;)
[10:35] <lifeless> doko: I was thinking I could run the core of what came up past you and then you'll know
[10:35] <doko> I have to run now, let' try to make it this evening (UTC)?
[10:35] <lifeless> rather than me getting deep into it
[10:36] <lifeless> tomorrow morning UTC perhaps ?
[10:36] <lifeless> I have a late night tomorrow due to back to back meetings from 9-10 UTC and 11-12 UTC
[10:36] <lifeless> so 10-11 UTC - anytime in there
[10:37] <doko> lifeless: would be fine, I have to get a new passport before, not sure if I'm excatly back at 10
[10:38] <lifeless> k
[11:08] <irvin> mvo
[11:38] <zyga> any rosetta devs around?
[12:08] <mdke> seems that the link to planet on the wiki (planet.ubuntulinux.org) goes to the fridge (jdub)
[12:35] <Mez> elmo: just to let you know I'm now recieiving katie emails again - so forget about trying to fix it - it seems to have fixed itself now I'm on a new host - I guess i had something wrong on my old one
[12:44] <sivang> anybody see pitti, tell him I am looking for him :)
[12:44] <tseng> sivang: it is sunday
[12:53] <sivang> tseng: yes I know, he rarely, but do comes online on sunday , so I tried my luck
[01:25] <irvin> sivang, here comes pitti
[01:25] <Tm_T> run! hide!
[01:26] <Tm_T> err
[01:26] <Tm_T> irvin: thanks for warning, we're secure now
[01:27] <pitti> hello everybody
[01:28] <sivang> pitti: hi! :)
[04:55] <psusi> how is it that partman, which is used by the setup cd, has no udeb?  it's control file only builds a non udeb target
[04:56] <azeem> psusi: there are several other partman-* packages with .udebs I believe
[04:56] <azeem> unless things have changed at some point
[04:56] <psusi> apt-cache search partman shows only the one
[04:57] <azeem> does apt-cache return .udebs?
[04:57] <psusi> wait... damnit... yea, I need it to search for source packages, not binaries
[04:58] <psusi> hrm... how do you do that?
[04:58] <azeem> grep-dctrl or something, maybe
[04:58] <psusi> and... why is it broken up into more than one source package anyhow?  rather than one source that builds both binaries?
[04:58] <azeem> no idea
[05:00] <psusi> looks like apt-cache -s search partman should do it... but it's being a jackass and saying partman is an invalid operation
[05:01] <psusi> like it's treating it like a command instead of a parameter to the search command
[05:04] <psusi> nevermind...
[05:05] <torkel> psusi: drop '-s'
[05:06] <psusi> torkel, I thought it was to ask it to search for source packages... it isn't... I'm trying to get it to search for source packages
[05:08] <torkel> psusi: -s is not for searching source packages
[05:10] <pabs3> hi all, should I be surprised that launchpad isn't in sync with packages.ubuntu.com? for example http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/source/xchat https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xchat
[05:16] <psusi> torkel, right... that's what I just said... so how DO you search on source packages? :)
[05:17] <azeem> 16:52 < azeem> grep-dctrl or something, maybe
[05:26] <psusi> I don't have a control file to grep, that's the point, I'm trying to find the source file which contains the control
[05:27] <psusi> s/file/package
[05:27] <psusi> wait...
[05:29] <Chipzz> psusi: apt-cache show $package
[05:30] <Chipzz> or dpkg -s $package if it's installed
[05:30] <psusi> Chipzz, I don't know the name of the package, I'm searching for it...
[05:30] <Chipzz> what do you know?
[05:31] <psusi> I know partman is used in the setup cd, but when I apt-get source partman, it gives me the sources only for the non udeb package... which is weird... someone sugested that there's a seperate source package for the setup udeb
[05:31] <psusi> so I'm looking for source packages that contain partman in their name ;)
[06:20] <mdke> pef_aw, i can hibernate here now
[06:21] <mdke> it's slow, but it works
[06:21] <pef> mdke: have you changed something special ?
[06:22] <mdke> upgraded
[06:23] <pef> mdke: new kernel or acpi-support package ?
[06:24] <mdke> oh damn wrong channel
[08:44] <towolf> Salve, how do I get /proc/bus/usb/* back?
[08:48] <towolf> oh, usbfs isn't mounted? well...
[10:05] <matchthis> must go today message me if interestedon aim at mikcomputing, msn at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>or yahoo at mcsltd2 only if your interested and want to buy! .  prices are 550 each includes shipping case and wireless router.2 alienware products, 1 area51-m 5700 notebook, and one area51 7500 desktop tower system.
[10:44] <moyogo> hi
[10:44] <moyogo> there's a license problem with a font package
[10:49] <Kamion> Mez: yes?
[10:50] <moyogo> the ttf-arabeyes packages uses Bitstream Vera glyphs for Basic Latin characters
[10:50] <moyogo> but ttf-arabeyes is GPL
[10:50] <moyogo> it should be BitStreamVera License + GPL
[11:41] <irvin> mvo: ping?
[11:42] <mvo> irvin: pong
[11:44] <irvin> mvo: about the update-manager... http://netgarage.thefluxproject.com/dump/shots/ubuntu/update-manager/wtf.png
[11:46] <mvo> irvin: "proud peacock" is a test-distro that should never be shown
[11:46] <mvo> I assume you use my backport for update-manager?
[11:47] <irvin> mvo: yes i was testing it last night and two days before that.
[11:47] <mvo> irvin: and you got that instead of 'dapper'? did it happen on dapper? or breezy?
[11:48] <irvin> mvo: i did get "dapper".
[11:48] <Amaranth> lmao
[11:48] <Amaranth> New distro release codename 'cock'
[11:48] <irvin> mvo: i was on breezy then.
[11:49] <mvo> Amaranth: the  "proud peacock" release
[11:49] <mvo> irvin: then you moved to dapper and got the other one?
[11:50] <irvin> mvo: no. i was planning to upgrade to dapper last night using update-manager but i got that instead :(
[11:50] <mvo> irvin: so you are still on breezy?
[11:51] <irvin> mvo: not anymore. i couldn't wait to i popped in a cd and upgraded.
[11:52] <irvin> mvo: i'm gonna test your script generator on synaptic =)
[11:52] <mvo> irvin: I see, I think I know what happend. after you upgraded lsb-release update-manager was assuming you run dapper and checked if there is another upgraded distro release available, it found one (my test-entry) and offered a upgrade
[11:52] <mvo> it's a bug in the update-manager, because it shouldn't allow upgrades to "unsupported" distros (it's flaged unsupported in my test-meta-release file)
[11:52] <mvo> irvin: please do that and let me know if it works well :)
[11:53] <mvo> I'll fix that tomorrow problem with the upgrade tomorrow, sorry for the strangness involved
[11:54] <irvin> mvo: there was one minor issue though, i had mirrormax backport previously on my (breezy) sources.list, the update-manager died with an error because it couln't find a 'dapper' release on mirrormax
[11:55] <mvo> irvin: thanks, can you please mail me your (old) sources.list? it should be available in /etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade
[11:56] <Amaranth> irvin: mirrormax backports are dead
[11:56] <Amaranth> irvin: and this is why 3rd party repos are bad :P
[11:56] <mvo> irvin: I'll fix that issue then too. some people had trouble with the missing "dapper-backports" componenet in the current archive.ubuntu.com
[11:57] <mvo> Amaranth: update-manager tries to detect and disable them ;)
[11:57] <irvin> mvo: yes that one too.
[11:58] <mvo> irvin: please send me your sources.list. did the upgrade otherwise worked? or did you just use the cd after it failed initially?
[11:58] <irvin> i'll email you my old sources.list
[11:59] <irvin> mvo: i used the cd last night, but two days ago it was working.. here are some screenshots: http://netgarage.thefluxproject.com/dump/shots/ubuntu/update-manager
[12:00] <mvo> irvin: would you mind to send me the ~/dist-upgrade.log and ~/dist-upgrade-apt.log as well then? I'm trying to gather some data about the packages that are upgraded/removed etc to see if it makes the right decisions
[12:00] <mvo> irvin: thanks for that link with the screenshots :)
[12:01] <irvin> mvo: ok. i'll send them as well
[12:01] <mvo> btw, do you think it should automatically disable sources in the sources.list it wasn't able to fetch?


[09:21] <lordievader> Good morning.
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[18:35] <TheNumb> o/
[19:32] <simosx> I just booted 15.04 daily ISO on my laptop. I am stuck the the initial screen where it shows how to use unity8. The trackpad works but cannot drag the launcher to continue.
[19:35] <simosx> is it a known issue?
[19:53] <simosx> found it. it's quite quirky to pass the wizard. switching to traditional 15.04.
[20:32] <nnnn> Hi. How can I get same result as by GUIed "Software updates"? This app crashes while trying to get updates.
[20:34] <nnnn> When I do "apt-get upgrade" then wanted packages are stopped.
[20:34] <Pici> apt-get dist-upgrade is what you should be using.
[20:35] <nnnn> Pici: Very helpful You are. Thanks.
[20:59] <cxdvty> Hey ObrienDave
[22:39] <smallfoot-> Does Weston or GDM or LightDM or gnome-shell have any systemd session that uses Wayland backend?


[00:01] <bazhang> ok
 why does all things ubuntu have a consitently low quality
[11:53] <bazhang> limcore got a new nick!
[20:50] <Pici> heading out in a few minutes, someone may want to keep an eye on GitGud in #u-ot, hes often up to no good
[20:53]  * genii slides Pici a coffee for the road


[00:00] <Sami> Hello again.
[00:04] <jonathon_> Is there a way to install flash WITHOUT the KPackageKit?
[00:10] <galvao> jonathon_: Yes, there is
[00:10] <galvao> jonathon_: I don't remember exactly now, but take a look at adobe's site
[00:11] <jonathon_> Alright
[00:11] <galvao> jonathon_: There's a gazipped file that contains the .so file needed to make Flash work
[00:11] <jonathon_> Yea, I got tha already, Just not sure where to put it
[00:12] <jonathon_> I tried putting it in Firefox's Plguins folder to no avail
[00:12] <galvao> jonathon_: hold on
[00:12] <jonathon_> k
[00:12] <galvao> jonathon_: can you confirm the file name? lib...???.so ?
[00:12] <jonathon_> libflashplayer.so
[00:12] <galvao> thank you, hold on
[00:13] <galvao> jonathon_: I've putted it in two places, not sure which is the correct one, but here it is:
[00:14] <galvao> jonathon_: first try - ~/.mozilla/firefox/your_profile_folder/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[00:14] <galvao> jonathon_: you need, of course, to close and re-open firefox to check if it worked
[00:16] <jonathon_> My user profile folder would be 2xkyfghs.default?
[00:16] <galvao> yep
[00:16] <jonathon_> there's no plugins folder there =(
[00:16] <galvao> make one =)
[00:17] <galvao> mkdir plugins
[00:17] <galvao> jonathon_: if that doesn't work, try /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[00:18] <jonathon_> Have it in botht hose places, Not working
[00:19] <galvao> jonathon_: that's weird, worked for me... have you created the plugins folder?
[00:19] <jonathon_> yes
[00:19] <galvao> ok, try setting the folder permissions, it's the only thing I can think
[00:20] <galvao> jonathon_: chmod -R 755 ~/.mozilla/firefox/your_profile_folder/plugins
[00:23] <galvao> jonathon_: Hope it helps, man. I gotta go
[00:24] <jonathon_> thanks, laters
[00:27] <jimmy51> i just installed handbrake-gtk and loaded a dvd in my drive.  if i click source and choose my VIDEO_TS folder it takes about 5 minutes and says there is a 14 minute video with no titles or chapters.  i know there are two very long videos on the disk.  what's up with that?
[00:41] <esmirlin> hey people, i need a recomendation... shoul i install the x64 version if i have an Acer Travelmate 5520G??
[00:45] <esmirlin> hey people, i need a recomendation... shoul i install the x64 version if i have an Acer Travelmate 5520G??
[02:19] <LINKSWORD2> wildgoose: Hello, wildgoose
[02:20] <wildgoose> LINKSWORD2, !!!
[02:20] <LINKSWORD2> Yes?
[02:21] <wildgoose> no
[02:21]  * LINKSWORD2 slaps wildgoose with a fish.
[02:24] <LINKSWORD2> xD
[02:26] <LINKSWORD2> wildgoose: Permission to /query?
[02:28] <wildgoose> LINKSWORD2, Sure.
[02:52] <IdleOne> What is the default mail client in kubuntu?
[02:53] <LINKSWORD2> KMail
[02:53] <IdleOne> yeah, found it :) thank you.
[02:54] <LINKSWORD2> xD
[03:17] <TheBuntu> how do i remove gnome
[03:34] <briandw1969> i have a prob
[03:34] <briandw1969> lol
[03:34] <ubuntu_user> TheBuntu: search for gnome in the package tool, mark the gnome packages and remove them?
[03:36] <LINKSWORD2> What kind of problem, briandw1969?
[03:36] <briandw1969> trying to install chrome.....
[03:36] <briandw1969> gets to the installer and says 'can only run one software manager at a time...
[03:36] <TheBuntu> ubuntu_user: there isent no command to do it
[03:37] <briandw1969> i dont think imrunning any others
[03:37] <LINKSWORD2> Hang on, I need to look for something.
[03:37] <briandw1969> k
[03:37] <ubuntu_user> no package tool?
[03:38] <LINKSWORD2> Got it.
[03:39] <LINKSWORD2> briandw1969: Look in the System menu, and find System Monitor.
[03:39] <LINKSWORD2> The System menu has a gear as its icon, and the System Monitor app has a graph on a black background as its icon.
[03:40] <briandw1969> dont see it????
[03:40] <briandw1969> found it
[03:40] <LINKSWORD2> !query
[03:40] <ubuntu_user> TheBuntu: I've gotten lazy with the graphical interfaces so I don't know how you would go about it on the command line .. but if gnome is your window manager you'll probably want to install and switch to another before you try to remove the gnome
[03:41] <LINKSWORD2> OK, briandw1969: Do I have permission to use /query for a direct chat with you?
[03:41] <briandw1969> sure
[03:41] <TheBuntu> im on kde
[03:43] <ubuntu_user> kpackage doesn't show anything for gnome whne you search it?
[03:54] <LINKSWORD2> Anybody know if there's a way to identify what process KPackage Installer is trying to install?
[03:57] <Spaz_Dynamic> when I try and run the GIMP, I get this:
[03:57] <Spaz_Dynamic> (gimp:20176): GLib-WARNING **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.28.6/./glib/goption.c:2132: ignoring no-arg, optional-arg or filename flags (8) on option of type 0
[03:57] <Spaz_Dynamic> Segmentation fault
[04:00] <wildgoose> LINKSWORD2, Are you referring to updates or packages you are trying to install?
[04:02] <LINKSWORD2> I'm helping someone else. lol
[04:03] <LINKSWORD2> But let's say packages.
[04:03] <Spaz_Dynamic> srsly, why isn't the GIMP working... T_T
[04:06] <LINKSWORD2> Spaz_Dynamic: I'm sorry for the incovenience, but we're all volunteers here, and we can't answer every question immediately.
[04:06] <LINKSWORD2> I will see if I can help you in a few moments.
[04:07] <Spaz_Dynamic> LINKSWORD2:  Yeah I know. I wasn't complaining about lack of help, I was complaining about lack of functionality of the GIMP lol
[04:07] <Spaz_Dynamic> (the irony... it is palpable)
[04:07] <LINKSWORD2> That's understandable.
[04:10] <claydoh> define gimp 'not working' - does it run?
[04:12] <Spaz_Dynamic> claydoh: no, it doesn't.
[04:12] <claydoh> Spaz_Dynamic: if it won't open, it may be a gtk theme bug - you can go toi system settings -applicatio appearance -gtk+ themes, change the theme to raleigh or something
[04:12] <claydoh> then run gimp, it should work
[04:12] <claydoh> then you can go back and chenge the theme back
[04:15] <Spaz_Dynamic> claydoh: interesting. that worked. I tried uninstalling, cleaning and installing gimp and deps again multiple times and that didn't work. What is this gtk+ appearance and theme stuff anyway?
[04:15] <claydoh> it makes non-kde (gnome and gtk based apps ) look more integrated into kde
[04:17] <Spaz_Dynamic> Ah, yeah, I noticed that the gimp's buttons and such looked like running a program designed for gnome under kde
[04:38] <SIR_Taco> everyone sleeping tonight?
[04:55]  * LINKSWORD2 slaps SIR_Taco with a Support Ticket.
[04:56] <SIR_Taco> too late... I've resorted to the forums haha
[04:57] <LINKSWORD2> "What will we do with a drunken sailor?"
[04:58] <SIR_Taco> earli in the morning? haha
[05:00] <Kaelo> Anyone bored and not busy enough to help a nubcake? Having issues getting the firmware to install and work on this laptop.
[05:02] <SIR_Taco> I've never made a nubcake before... so sure
[05:03] <SIR_Taco> Kaelo: what are you trying to do?
[05:05] <LINKSWORD2> Oh, dear...
[05:08] <SIR_Taco> seems moot I guess
[05:08] <Kaelo> Well I'm running kubuntu from a 4gb usb and I believe I'm having and issue with initramfs like some others have.
[05:09] <Kaelo> read around and tried installing bcmwl-kernel-source and it did fine up until it started dealing with that
[05:09] <SIR_Taco> So you had it running fine at some point?
[05:10] <millun> can i ask someone with insinght about VNC? what should i use as a server? does it matter? i need be secure, of course.
[05:11] <ditatompel> Heyy.. Whatssuppp Everybodehhhh???
[05:11] <millun> (kubuntu as a server)
[05:11]  * LINKSWORD2 dies
[05:11] <Kaelo> Nah just installed and it hasn't worked
[05:12] <millun> pointing me to an not-outdated article works, too
[05:12] <SIR_Taco> Kaelo: even though my motherboard 'boots off usb' I have yet to see it do it successfully
[05:14] <Kaelo> Ahh well I figured out how to get it to persitantly run fine, it's just the firmware for the wireless card I can't get to work. Can I post the last bit of what it returned installing the thing?
[05:16] <SIR_Taco> Kaelo: ah ok... what wireless card?
[05:18] <LINKSWORD2> I need to close Quassel for an update.
[05:19] <Kaelo> bcm4311
[05:19] <SIR_Taco> broadcom card?
[05:19] <Kaelo> 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01)
[05:19] <SIR_Taco> ok
[05:20] <SIR_Taco> Kaelo: you've followed this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:21] <Kaelo> Yup
[05:22] <Kaelo> did the sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source and I got an error from it
[05:22] <SIR_Taco> what error?
[05:22] <SIR_Taco> you can use paste.kde.org if it's long
[05:23] <Kaelo> k hold on :)
[05:25] <SIR_Taco> haha I'm watching a Mythbusters episode which is related to a presentation I just did
[05:25] <Kaelo> http://paste.kde.org/82603/
[05:27] <SIR_Taco> Kaelo: what version of Kubuntu/Ubuntu?
[05:27] <Kaelo> There a version cmd I can use?
[05:28] <Kaelo> And my roomies are needing me to reboot the modem, so I'll be right back I suppose....
[05:28] <SIR_Taco> lsb_release -a
[05:28] <Kaelo> 11/04
[05:29] <SIR_Taco> ok
[05:29] <Kaelo> 11.04 rather anyways brb
[05:54] <LINKSWORD2> I'm back!
[05:58] <Kaelo> Still here Sir Taco?
[06:23] <Spaz_Dynamic> so, i need a 32 bit version of python to run a script, but being that I'm running 64bit kubuntu, I can't find the 32bit .deb in the repos via the swc. (I also need a 32bit version of Blender to go with the script)
[06:28] <Firefishe> I just got done trying the new natty 11.04 (64bit) live dvd.  I was able to connet to the net, but was unable to connect to irc using any icr client.  The problem seemed to lie with SASL, so I installed the saslauthd package.  Process management showed it working, but none of the irc clients (xchat/kvirc4) seemed to hook on it, and freenode kicked me off.
[06:30] <LINKSWORD2> From what I've been told by some people, 64-bit Linux distros are still a little bit unstable, and 32-bit distros can do the same job without the instability.
[06:30] <LINKSWORD2> Granted, it has been a while since I was told that.
[06:31] <rww> I've been using 64-bit distros for years, and have never had stability issues. Your mileage may vary.
[06:31] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: I've been using 64bit 10.04 LTS for a long time now, I see no issues with it.  My problem lies with the SASL authentication daemon (saslauthd) not being 'seen' by irc clients like xchat or kvirc.
[06:31] <Firefishe> rww:  thank you
[06:31] <Firefishe> rww:  any idea why when using a live cd that an irc client wouldn't hook/bind with the SASL authentication daemon?
[06:31] <rww> Firefishe: Quassel has SASL authentication built in. It might work better, perhaps?
[06:31] <rww> I've only ever done SASL on Quassel and irssi, and neither used a separate daemon, so...
[06:32] <Firefishe> rww:  true, I didn't try it, so I don't know.  I use kvirc almost exclusively for irc.
[06:32] <Firefishe> I mean, I compile from source/svn ;)
[06:32] <LINKSWORD2> Well, I'm not going to mess with that...
[06:32] <Firefishe> anyone know anybody who might have experience in this area?
[06:33] <Spaz_Dynamic> LINKSWORD2: from what I've seen, 64bit is no more unstable than 32bit has been. Only problem is that this particular script fail when using 64bit blender and/or 64 bit python
[06:34] <Firefishe> It's also nice to be able to use all of one's memory ;)
[06:34] <Spaz_Dynamic> Firefishe: I think you can do that with 32bit
[06:34] <LINKSWORD2> Yes, you can.
[06:34] <Spaz_Dynamic> the kernel was compiled to allow like 32 or 64 gigs of ram
[06:34] <Spaz_Dynamic> even on the 32 bit OS
[06:34] <Firefishe> well, I'm a 64bit user, and I do not see why I should go back now.  I mean, it's not a production system, just my laptop.
[06:35] <Firefishe> and modern cpu's are 64bit...
[06:35] <Spaz_Dynamic> of course, the 64 bit can use as much as any modern 64 bit system xD
[06:35] <rww> Firefishe: according to http://freenode.net/sasl/README.txt , KVIrc 4+ support SASL natively. Is there a configuration setting in the client you're missing?
[06:36]  * rww hasn't used KVIrc, doesn't know
[06:36] <millun> hi
[06:36] <Firefishe> rww:  no, I checked the config, and it's checked.
[06:36] <millun> is there a way to run 64b firefox w/ Java???
[06:36] <millun> tried some googling. didn't find anything usefull
[06:37] <Firefishe> rww:  Now, to be fair, the snapshot in Natty's repository was only 5507...It's well beyond that now, so perhaps something was broken...still, I doubt. it.
[06:37] <LINKSWORD2> Spaz?
[06:37] <millun> ff4+j1.6
[06:37] <Spaz_Dynamic> Link?
[06:39] <ehsan> in rekonq when i go to  http://opsys.ir/forum.php  display a message to save xstat.aspx and page is ugly in rekonq but arora (another webkit browser display page normal.)
[06:40] <LINKSWORD2> I've downloaded a game, and apparently it needs to be "compiled." I've never had to compile a program before, and I need a little help...
[06:40] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: what kind of a file?
[06:40] <Firefishe> tar.gz ?
[06:40] <LINKSWORD2> Yes.
[06:41] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: The general rule is:   tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz
[06:41] <Firefishe> cd directoryname
[06:41] <ehsan> rekonq have same problem in another aspx pages
[06:41] <Spaz_Dynamic> LINKSWORD2... are you suggesting I just compile pyton and blender myself?
[06:41] <LINKSWORD2> Yes, it is a tar.gz
[06:41] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: then read the INSTALL file
[06:41] <Spaz_Dynamic> or do you legitimately need help compiling?
[06:42] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: If you haven't already, I'd do this command in a terminal:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:42] <Firefishe> that will get at least the bare minimum of what you need to compile from sourc.e
[06:42] <Firefishe> source.
[06:42] <LINKSWORD2> build-essential ???
[06:43] <Spaz_Dynamic> but generally there is a readme with instructions, if not, it is likely "./configure" then "make" then "make install" which is likely an optional step
[06:43] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: it's a meta package that will install what the bare minimum requirements are for compiling...
[06:43] <Spaz_Dynamic> and besides, I think as for building python, if I build it on a 64 bit ssystem, would I be building a 64 bit version, or a 32bit?
[06:44] <Firefishe> rww: would using a mobile broadband (either access point or phone) be part of the issue, possibly?
[06:46] <rww> Firefishe: that's probably why you're being required to use SASL. I don't think it would affect your ability to use SASL, though.
[06:46] <rww> I'd try it with Quassel as a test to see if it's a configuration issue or not.
[06:47] <Firefishe> rww:  that's a good idea
[06:47] <Firefishe> although with kvirc having it's own built-in sasl, I dunno...oh well, gotta try....bbl
[06:47] <Firefishe> and, as always, thanks for the insight
[06:48] <Firefishe> rww:  I'm going back to school in August for networking...I'm sure I'll get lots of experience. :)
[06:48] <rww> which mobile provider, out of interest?
[06:48] <rww> oops, they /quit
[06:58] <Firefishe> rww:  Well, quassel works.  I don't know why the others don't.
[06:59] <Firefishe> rww:  I've never used it.  Nice, simple, clean interface.  Not bad :)
[07:00] <rww> Firefishe: just curious, since I like to keep tabs on who freenode's restricting to SASL: which mobile provider?
[07:00] <LINKSWORD2> Midnight here....
[07:01] <Firefishe> rww:  at&t
[07:01] <Firefishe> rww: I also use verizon
[07:02] <Firefishe> rww:  and on the hard drive side of things, I use 10.04 LTS 64 bit.  I have no problems with SASL there.  It may just be related to how file permissions are handled on the live dvd.
[07:03] <Firefishe> rww:  now, on 10.04, I'm using nm-applet, however, and not kde's network manger.  Still, SASL is run as a daemon, and since I installed it, authentication works on kvirc(4.1.1).  I'm sure it's something simple.  I'm researching the possible cause.
[07:06] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: Were you able to get help with understanding compiling?
[07:07] <LINKSWORD2> No.
[07:07] <LINKSWORD2> I'm way burned out tonight.
[07:07] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: Do you want me to help you?
[07:07] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: okay
[07:07] <LINKSWORD2> Well, let's see if it works...
[07:09] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: in a nutshell, from within the extracted directory (preferably in your /home/username directory somewhere):  ./configure -- make -- sudo make install
[07:11] <LINKSWORD2> Firefishe: Can I send you the site link to the file I'm trying to install?
[07:11] <LINKSWORD2> Bonus: It's a free game.
[07:11] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: If it's one line, go ahead and paste it here, but if the url is long, I'd use pastebin.ubuntu.com
[07:12] <LINKSWORD2> http://www.wz2100.net
[07:15] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: Looks intersting, but I can't download a 57mb file on this connection.  Too large.  Can you find the INSTALL file, copy the entire text of that, and paste it pastbin.ubuntu.com for me?
[07:16] <Firefishe> that should be:  pastebin.ubuntu.com  (can't type tonight)
[07:16] <LINKSWORD2> I'm not sure, but I can look around.
[07:16] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: it'll be in the top-level directory if it's anywhere
[07:17] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: I mean, it should be
[07:18] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: also, as it's a game, it may be built differently than the usual methods.  I build kvirc (and irc client) from svn checkout, and it uses cmake, as an example.  It's similar to a normal build process, but it requires a few more packages to work.
[07:18] <Firefishe> and-an
[07:18] <Firefishe> an=an
[07:18] <Firefishe> sheesh...never mind
[07:18] <LINKSWORD2> Folders: Build_tools, data, doc, icons, lib, m4, macosx, pkg, po, src, win32.
[07:19] <Firefishe> no text files?
[07:19] <Firefishe> go to a terminal, cd into the directory, and type:  ls
[07:20] <Firefishe> list the top-level directory in the terminal window...there should be someting that says INSTALL (if it's there)
[07:20] <Firefishe> all caps
[07:20] <LINKSWORD2> Ok, I don't know Linux well enough.
[07:20] <LINKSWORD2> What do I need to type to get there?
[07:21] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: Are you in kde?
[07:21] <LINKSWORD2> The Konsole terminal is open.
[07:21] <Firefishe> you should be in your /home/username directory (where username is your user name)
[07:22] <Firefishe> do you know where the tar.gz file was downloaded to?
[07:22] <LINKSWORD2> I saved it to the download folder in my personal directory.
[07:22] <Firefishe> did you extract it yet?
[07:23] <LINKSWORD2> Yes. Into a subfolder in the download folder.
[07:23] <LINKSWORD2> Or is that a bad idea?
[07:23] <Firefishe> no, that'll keep it out of the way
[07:24] <Firefishe> I usually use a directory called Downloads
[07:24] <Firefishe> I extract all compiling data there
[07:24] <Firefishe> just cd to where the extracted directory is
[07:24] <LINKSWORD2> Ok.
[07:24] <Firefishe> for example:   $ cd Downloads/wargames/directoryinquestion
[07:26] <LINKSWORD2> Konsole: $ command not found
[07:26] <Firefishe> press the UP ARROW once, and look at the command you just did
[07:26] <Firefishe> check for errors
[07:27] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[07:27] <LINKSWORD2> You spaced between $ cd
[07:27] <LINKSWORD2> $ and cd
[07:27] <Firefishe> $ is just a reference for the command prompt
[07:27] <Firefishe> it may look different on your system
[07:27] <LINKSWORD2> So I don't need that, then...
[07:28] <Firefishe> I'll just type in the command syntax and forget the other stuff
[07:28] <wildgoose> ahh LINKSWORD2, always good for a laugh
[07:28] <Firefishe> cd Downloads/wargames/directoryinquestion
[07:28] <Firefishe> or whatever you named it, of course :)
[07:29] <LINKSWORD2> Here's what I have.... cd/Downloads/warzone2100-2.3.8
[07:29] <Firefishe> okay
[07:29] <Firefishe> type:  clear
[07:30] <Firefishe> then list the directory contents with:  ls
[07:30] <LINKSWORD2> CLEAR!
[07:30] <LINKSWORD2> lol
[07:30] <LINKSWORD2> OK
[07:30] <Firefishe> lower case you nit ;)
[07:30] <Firefishe> is there a file with the name of:  INSTALL (all upper case)
[07:31] <Firefishe> ?
[07:31] <LINKSWORD2> No.
[07:31] <Firefishe> okay, then we have to do some digging.
[07:31] <LINKSWORD2> I have an autogen-sh listed, but it is not in caps.
[07:31] <Firefishe> autogen.....ah
[07:31] <LINKSWORD2> hang on.
[07:32] <Firefishe> try:   ./configure
[07:32] <LINKSWORD2> I have autogen.sh as well as install-sh
[07:32] <Firefishe> tell me if it does anything
[07:32] <LINKSWORD2> !pastebin
[07:32] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: what was that for?
[07:33] <LINKSWORD2> I'm about to copy the results of the ./configure
[07:33] <Firefishe> okay...so ./configure did do something?
[07:33] <LINKSWORD2> Yeah, it generated a LOT of text.
[07:33] <Firefishe> yes, it does
[07:33] <Unit193> You know it's in the repo? And you can get that version from getdeb... (But it's good to learn this)
[07:34] <Firefishe> Unit193: That's always good if there's a package :)
[07:34] <LINKSWORD2> Firefishe:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/627117/
[07:34] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: How long have you been using kubuntu.  Also, if I might inquire, what version are you using?
[07:35] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: you need, first of all, to install bison.  You may do this quickly by typing this:  sudo apt-get install bison
[07:36] <LINKSWORD2> I've been using Kubuntu for a couple months.
[07:36] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: one other thing, too, sometimes you may get the libraries for something, but you need the -dev file for building.  So, something like bison-dev is often how that is listed.
[07:36] <LINKSWORD2> By the way, I'm using 11.04 / Natty.
[07:37] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: Here's a trick that will save you a hell of a lot of time when using apt-get on the command line:  Let's say you want bison.  type:  sudo apt-get install bison  (however, don't hit ENTER first.  Instead, hit TAB once or twice (usually takes two for me); what you will have is a list of what apt has listed that is available for download.)
[07:38] <LINKSWORD2> Oh?
[07:38] <Firefishe> yes....shortcuts like this will save you hours of wondering what's in the repository list
[07:38] <LINKSWORD2> .... WHOA! What the monkey?!
[07:38] <Firefishe> anything with the word bison in it should be listed.
[07:39] <LINKSWORD2> bison++ bisonc++ bisonc++-doc bison-doc
[07:39] <Firefishe> and, if there is something called, for example, bison-dev, make sure you also include it.  (I'm in natty live  dvd right now, so I won't have it available for me
[07:39] <Firefishe> try the command with just the word 'bison' (minus quotes)
[07:39] <Firefishe> ie, sudo apt-get install bison
[07:40] <LINKSWORD2> OK, doing that.
[07:40] <LINKSWORD2> Installed.
[07:40] <Firefishe> okay, go back to the build directory
[07:40] <LINKSWORD2> ok
[07:40] <Firefishe> and do ./configure again
[07:41] <Firefishe> watch the output, and if there is an error, do the pastebin thing again
[07:42] <Firefishe> did you install build-essential?
[07:42] <Firefishe> guess so if it's doing the configure okay
[07:44] <LINKSWORD2> configure: error: The pkg-config script could not be found or is too old.  Make sure it
[07:44] <LINKSWORD2> is in your PATH or set the PKG_CONFIG environment variable to the full
[07:44] <LINKSWORD2> path to pkg-config.
[07:44]  * LINKSWORD2 shoots self
[07:45] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: no, don't do that, wait until the game ;) hee
[07:45] <LINKSWORD2> LMAO!
[07:45] <Firefishe> try this:   sudo apt-get install pkg-config
[07:45] <LINKSWORD2> All righ5t.
[07:45] <Firefishe> this is how you compile software from source, the easy way ;) hee
[07:46] <Firefishe> your mileage may vary
[07:46] <LINKSWORD2> Display all 33549 possibilities? (y or n)
[07:46] <LINKSWORD2> ..... :o
[07:46] <LINKSWORD2> You call this the easy way?
[07:47] <Tm_T> LINKSWORD2: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" without quotes
[07:47] <LINKSWORD2> DarkwingDuck: You there, mate?
[07:47] <Tm_T> to get basic tools for compiling installed
[07:47] <LINKSWORD2> Tm_T: Already did that.
[07:47] <Tm_T> ah, didn't notice (:
[07:48] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: hold on
[07:49] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: It should be:  sudo apt-get install pkg-config
[07:49] <Firefishe> just that
[07:50] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: I'm testing natty...  not too bad.  I like it so far.
[07:54] <LINKSWORD2> Damn it.
[07:54] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: now what
[07:54] <LINKSWORD2> Now it's looking for something called SDL.
[07:54] <Firefishe> 'nother error?
[07:54] <LINKSWORD2> Yeah.
[07:54] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: please paste the output, as always ;)
[07:54] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: also, if you want to clear your entire buffer in Konsole, you can do this:  CTRL-SHIFT-X
[07:54] <LINKSWORD2> OK
[07:55] <Firefishe> does one more step then clear does
[07:55] <Firefishe> clear just clears the window and puts the prompt at the top.  The above command clears the entire buffer
[07:55] <Firefishe> useful when doing lots of output
[07:55] <LINKSWORD2> !pastebin
[07:55] <LINKSWORD2> I think I need to keep pastebin open in the background....
[07:56] <Firefishe> LINKSWORD2: I usually do when troubleshooting in chan
[07:57] <LINKSWORD2> Firefishe: http://paste.ubuntu.com/627125/
[07:57] <LINKSWORD2> Firefishe: Permission to /query?
[07:58] <Firefishe> ya, sure
[09:05] <LINKSWORD2> Damn connection....
[09:32] <LINKSWORD2> .... So freenode is net-splitting again. Epic fail.
[09:37] <LINKSWORD2> ... Don't you dare kick me.
[09:44]  * wildgoose kicks LINKSWORD2 in the pants
[09:47]  * LINKSWORD2 shoots wildgoose in the head with a Glock 9mm.
[09:48] <Tm_T> please, behave
[09:48] <Unit193> Maybe in -offtopic
[09:52] <liquidat> Hm, how is the state of kdepim and kmail2, given that KDE 4.6.4 is supposed to come along with these...?
[10:01] <Guest52992> Hello anybody
[10:08] <LINKSWORD2> Greetings to all who have recently joined....
[10:11] <LINKSWORD2> It seems that freenode is on the fritz again....
[10:11] <lokifacio> Hi
[10:11] <lokifacio> does someone know about creating/managing ubuntu repositories?
[10:12] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm.... Hang on.
[10:12] <Tm_T> !repositories
[10:12] <Tm_T> hmmh
[10:13] <Tm_T> lokifacio: http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository
[10:13] <LINKSWORD2> I'm having problems with a custom stylesheet.
[10:13] <lokifacio> thanks
[10:15] <lokifacio> indeed I've already created one, but my question was where to locate packages for different distributions (i.e. gutsy, natty...)
[10:15] <LINKSWORD2> I think I fixed it...
[10:15] <lokifacio> I haven't check that debian howto, so I will check that
[10:17] <LINKSWORD2> There we go.
[10:42] <LINKSWORD2> *Sigh.*
[10:42] <LINKSWORD2> I can't stay awake.
[11:39] <DeltaEpsilon> is there anything similar to Adobe illustrator for kde/linux?
[12:08] <nailbar> I'm having serous rendering issues with Firefox4 in Kubuntu, even on a clean installation.
[12:08] <nailbar> Many Wikipedia entries are displayed incorrectly (huge empty space and a mile-long scrollbar).
[12:08] <nailbar> View page source doesn't show DOCTYPE or HTML comments unless Syntax highlighting is turned off.
[12:09] <nailbar> Is this hardware related or is anyone else having the same thing?
[12:11] <nailbar> The only thing I did after I installed Kubuntu was apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get install firefox
[12:11] <nailbar> However the firefox on the live-cd did not seem to have these problems
[12:21] <PasNox> hello
[12:21] <PasNox> does KDE PIM 4.6.0 packaging is planned ?
[12:34] <noaXess> hey
[12:35] <noaXess> i hace a 1.5TB hd with ntfs.. if i connect it to my maschine, latest kubuntu, i only see a 500gb hd.. and not the correct partitions.. any hint how to get the whle 1.5tb?
[12:47] <PasNox> noaXess: strange i can see my 640gb partition without problems
[12:47] <PasNox> which is ntfs
[12:48] <noaXess> PasNox: hm... don't know why..
[12:48] <noaXess> wait..
[12:48] <noaXess> i try find out something with testdisk.. analysing ;)..
[12:52] <PasNox> :)
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Hiyas
[13:23] <jmut> hi folks. I am using kubuntu. But I really really like to get rid of those useless screens on startup. I want to see what is actually going on..console etc. Both on startup + shutdown...regardless if fschk is running or just regular startup. Is there easy way to fix that
[13:54] <Magnusson> jmut>escape during boot didnt work?
[13:55] <jmut> Magnusson: hm. I think I tried this once but I guess I will give another shot at it
[13:55] <jmut> Magnusson: is there more permenant way?
[13:56] <Magnusson> lol not that i'm immediately aware of. ironically i've spent the last month TRYING to get those screens to show
[13:57] <kubu2> want to see grub? Shift will show it
[13:58] <jmut> will experiement a bit. thanks
[14:01] <kubu2> IIRC there is a HIDDEN parameter you can turn on|off in grub
[14:01] <BATi> Magnusson: you want to see boot progress? remove "splash" from kernel cmdline or change it to "nosplash"
[14:02] <Magnusson> BATi>nah, my problem is that i constantly have "input signal out of range" during boot =\
[14:02] <Magnusson> been trying to get rid of that forever
[14:03] <PasNox> KDE PIM 4.6.0 being packaged  ??
[14:05] <BATi> Magnusson: hmm, did you tried to fiddle with "GRUB_GFXMODE", "GRUB_TERMINAL" and "GRUB_CMDLINE_*" in /etc/default/grub? some vga param to kernel should fix that...
[14:06] <Magnusson> BATi>yeah i've messed around with that a ton, not sure if it was done correctly but yep done those
[14:06] <Magnusson> lemme see what they say atm
[14:07] <BATi> Magnusson: hmm... nosplash and disabling vga console in kernel params should do the trick... and not forgetting to run update-grub :)
[14:10] <Magnusson> BATi>http://pastebin.com/seMfNMNp
[14:10] <Magnusson> is my current
[14:12] <BATi> Magnusson: hmm, try GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet nosplash vga=normal nomodeset"
[14:12] <aperson> anyone know the shortcut for the compose key?
[14:13] <BATi> Magnusson: if that helps, you can try to reenable "splash" for you to see plymouth splash during boot
[14:13] <Magnusson> hrm hope so, i'd like to get both burg and plymouth working
[14:14] <aperson> if we're talking getting the splash to work properly, all I had to do was set the resolution in my /etc/default/grub
[14:14] <aperson> to my screens resolution
[14:15] <Magnusson> aperson>that's what i did :(
[14:15] <aperson> assuming you ran update-grub as well?
[14:15] <aperson> GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1280x1024 < was mine
[14:17] <Magnusson> yep, ran update-grub(burg)
[14:20] <Kaelo> Anyone able to help? Can't get my wireless working, and yes I've tried following the help page for it.
[14:21] <Kaelo> Make work :|
[14:22] <BATi> Magnusson: I think that real problem lies somewhere in "video" parameter settings, but I am no framebuffer guru, I've always escaped with setting something like "vga=0x314" at most :)
[14:23] <Magnusson> BATi>heh yeah it can be a real pain in the arse. the things i do for stuff that looks pretty. ironically it worked just fine at one point
[14:24] <OpenSorce> 10.x how do I change the default sound output device if I have more than one? The old "asoundconf" trick no longer works
[14:25] <OpenSorce> 10.04LTS to be exact
[14:25] <BATi> Magnusson: well, so just try to remember what happened when it stopped working :) /me ducks and runs :)
[14:26] <Magnusson> BATi>lol it stopped a month or so ago, Lord only knows
[14:27] <Magnusson> BATi>well, actually it was when i was trying an updater for burg. however i've since formatted and reinstalled my linux partition so that should've nuked any settings =\
[14:27] <BATi> Magnusson: worst case scenario 'cause He does not talk :)))
[14:27] <Magnusson> lol too true, took me a sec to get what you meant
[14:28] <BATi> Magnusson: hmm... that's why I stick to GRUB until all BURG packaging/config problems are solved...
[14:28] <Magnusson> yeah suppose that would've been best :( bu like i said, shiny things make me do crazy stuff
[14:30] <BATi> Magnusson: I know what you are talking about... nuked my systems too many times by going "oooh, shiny, lemme touch it... oops, where did I put those backups?"
[14:31] <Magnusson> BATi>haha
[14:32] <Magnusson> BATi>though, it would seem to me that it should be system independent. i mean i think the "input signal out of range" occurs before any sort of system files are touched since it's during boot no?
[14:35] <BATi> Magnusson: hmm, apparently, the initrd kernel is loaded and video mode switched to something your monitor does not like, bootloader switches only it's own resolution (thats what GRUB_GFXMODE  and GRUB_TERMINAL is used for)
[14:35] <OpenSorce> Any help? 10.04 how do I change the default sound output device if I have more than one? The old "asoundconf" trick no longer works
[14:36] <DarthFrog> OpenSorce: Install padevchooser and use it.
[14:37] <OpenSorce> It is installed, it doesn't run... does it need root?
[14:37] <Magnusson> BATi>hm you might be onto something new for me there with the initrd, where could i check that
[14:38] <DarthFrog> OpenSorce: It's probably running.  Have a look at your SysTray for the icon, on my system it's an icon of a blank page.
[14:39] <OpenSorce> Ah... there it is! And instead of letting me select from a list it wants me to type in the device name. How archaic.
[14:39] <OpenSorce> I thought Kubuntu would be easier for my kids.... maybe teaching them the Gnome desktop would be better
[14:40] <BATi> Magnusson: well, initrd only contains boot kernel, set of modules needed to boot (hdd controller drivers most notably) and simple script which changes root to your root partition and runs init.... but it can contain vga modules aswell...
[14:40] <Magnusson> BATi>grrr. as usual nvidia is the death of me
[14:41] <OpenSorce> In any case DarthFrog, thanks for your help :-)
[14:41] <DarthFrog> OpenSorce: Hmm, never saw that on my system.  I wonder if you need paprefs and pavucontrol installed also.
[14:41] <OpenSorce> I could try that...
[14:41] <OpenSorce> I have pavucontrol....
[14:41] <Magnusson> BATi>cause i'm pretty sure i set everything i could to 1680x1050 (my monitor's native res)  ...unless somehow it's a frequency problem, which i have no idea how to set
[14:42] <OpenSorce> I have them both actually
[14:44] <OpenSorce> When I click padevchooser and then default sink it says default and then other when I choose other it asks me to type it in
[14:45] <OpenSorce> Of course I could write the kids a script to switch it I suppose... assuming Pulse will accept CLI commands
[14:45] <BATi> Magnusson: well, better strugling with nvidia than i915 in my notebook :) and for frequency... maybe initrd kernel translates resolution with bad timing, you can always try with 640x480,800x600 or something like that, and if that works, then it's either fbcons fault or missing  f.ex. nvidia module...
[14:46] <Magnusson> BATi>i might be willing to trade with ya lol. nvidia's drivers made my transisters literally explode so i have to run an overclock utility to underclock my card so it won't overheat and crash
[14:47] <DarthFrog> OpenSorce: All I can say is that I've not seen that behaviour.  My devices were detected and I could select between them.
[14:48] <OpenSorce> Hmmm... odd indeed. Good to know it's not designed that way. It shows the different devices other places....
[14:49] <OpenSorce> For instance the PulseAudio Manager shows both devices....
[14:50] <BATi> Magnusson: oops that's definitely not friendly... but I've heard that nvidia cards have less problems than ati cards under linux...
[14:50] <Magnusson> BATi>yeah so have i sadly. everything i read says nvidia's the way to go
[14:54] <BATi> Magnusson: well, but for what I understand, there is a bit mess in nvidia drivers land - open source drivers, nvidia's drivers, some versions work with this some with that... at least that scrap of silicon called by intel a graphics card have consistent driver policy - almost nothing works :)
[14:54] <Magnusson> lol, consistency is best
[14:59] <BATi> Magnusson: anyway - my advice to your problem is like this - try standard VGA resolution of 640x480, if it does work, it will give you at least starting point to start messing with framebuffer...
[15:00] <Magnusson> BATi>yeah i'll start there and work my way up. not a bad idea. hmm though will that only affect grub/burg or will i need to change plymouth's settings somewhere else as well?
[15:02] <BATi> Magnusson: hmm, should be enough... plymouth should select the right splash image size depending on framebuffer resolution...
[15:02] <Magnusson> BATi>killer, ty much :D
[15:03] <BATi> Magnusson: np :) but keep in mind that I said "should" not "will" :) better lemme check...
[15:03] <Magnusson> lol
[15:04] <Magnusson> BATi>such is the life of hacking configuration files
[15:05] <jimmy51_> when making a custom livecd, how can you set up a script to run on boot interactively? (as in... not an init daemon)
[15:07] <BATi> Magnusson: life would be boring without it :))) BTW: based on what is in /lib/plymouth/themes/kubuntu-logo it seems that plymouth scales the image depending on resolution...
[15:08] <Magnusson> BATi>good good, that should make things simpler :)
[15:09] <BATi> Magnusson: in fact there is a plymouth script which computes right positions for "progress" sprites... shiny 8)
[15:10] <Magnusson> BATi>lol shhhh you foul tempter!
[15:10] <BATi> Magnusson: :DD
[15:44] <Xel`lotath> Ok, so just post my issue/question, right?
[15:44] <Xel`lotath> I always feel like I'm getting it wrong
[15:47] <Xel`lotath> so.. by issue is one that has happened before.  I try to boot, and it gets a short ways into the boot process then I get kicked to ash, with a message saying that bootreg was not found.  If I remember right I need to load a boot-disk, and fsck my HDD with that desktop.  problem is, I forget all the steps
[15:49] <Xel`lotath> I think I need to unmount srd0, or something like that?
[15:49] <Xel`lotath> or src0?
[15:50]  * Xel`lotath takes a number and sits in the waiting room, wonering how good the magazine selection is...
[15:52] <Combatjuan> Hello.  I'm trying to set up two profiles in konsole, one light on dark the other reversed.  I'd like them to switch the COLORFGBG env variable so that when I start vim, the background color is correctly detected.  But the environment doesn't change when switching between profiles.
[15:53] <Combatjuan> So a.) Is the environment meant to change according to the environment in the profile or is that just used for initially setting up? and b.) Is there just a generally better way to do this?
[15:53] <Xel`lotath> if it were my luck, it would be both XD
[15:54] <Combatjuan> It would also be super awesome if I could get the profile to automatically change when I ssh into certain boxes, but I suspect that's asking too much.
[15:55] <Xel`lotath> you wouldn't happen to know the steps to fsck-ing my HDD from a boot disk, would ya?
[15:55] <Combatjuan> Xel`lotath: Like the kubuntu live disk?  You should be able to boot with that and just run fsck.
[15:56] <Xel`lotath> don't I need to umount src0 or srd0 or something?
[15:57] <Xel`lotath> that
[15:57] <Xel`lotath> that's where I'm unsure
[15:57] <Xel`lotath> that and the fsck options I might need to refind bootreg.
[15:59] <Combatjuan> Xel`lotath: I hate to be the guy who breaks your disks.  I don't think that you have to be unmounted or mounted read only just to check the disk.
[16:00] <phoenixlzx> Good news!for who using NVIDIA Optimus:  https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee
[16:00] <Xel`lotath> ok.. and is it src0?
[16:01] <Combatjuan> Xel`lotath: sudo fdisk -l to list devices and paritions
[16:01] <Xel`lotath> ah..
[16:01] <Combatjuan> phoenixlzx: I have a device with optimus.  What is the good news that I'm looking at?
[16:01] <Xel`lotath> why is it always so easy, yet so impossible to remember?
[16:02] <Combatjuan> Does bumblebee has automatic switching support now?
[16:03] <Xel`lotath> well.. I'll give it a shot, thanks for the advice!
[16:04] <Combatjuan> Xel`lotath: Yeah.  Commands in linux tend to optimized for efficiency and power-use rather than ease of remembering.  I appreciate the choice in optimization, but it does make learning hard.
[16:04] <Xel`lotath> i find it makes it entertaining.
[16:15] <amichair> does anyone know if desktop effects settings dialog is kde's or kubuntu's?
[16:19] <Combatjuan> amichair: I think KDE's but I'm not sure.  And images.google.com isn't providing me any clues.  Sorry.
[16:20] <amichair> Combatjuan: thanks, I'll try reporting a bug in kde, as I've found something similar enough there
[16:27] <BATi> amichair: desktop effects dialog is definitely KDE's so is KWin :)
[16:27] <amichair> BATi: thanks
[17:01] <petete> hi
[17:02] <petete> is there a way to return to the desktop while running a game fullscreen like with the menu key on windows?
[17:04] <zkriesse_> Hmm, I forgot that key...
[17:04] <zkriesse_> I know there's a way to do it, cause I did once :P
[17:05] <petete> i'm trying to use global shortcuts, but they seem to be parsed by the game
[17:05] <petete> i'm playing crawl, btw
[17:05] <zkriesse_> Hmm
[17:06] <zkriesse_> Dangit wish I could remember how I did that!
[17:06] <amichair> I'm not sure if it's a bug or me - can someone help me figure out how to filter out *.*~ (kate backup files) from desktop view in desktop settings?
[17:10] <amichair> hmmm... I think the file name pattern filter just doesn't do anything
[17:13] <BATi> amichair: you mean folder view desktop?
[17:14] <petete> rigth click -> preferences -> filter -> hide blabla -> on pattern put *~
[17:14] <petete> the ui is a bit shitty
[17:14] <petete> doesn't work as espected
[17:15] <petete> expected
[17:26] <BATi> gee, I love my dog... I really do... when he is not near my network connection...
[17:26] <amichair> petete: how does it work? anything I write in the file name pattern doesn't seem to do anything
[17:27] <amichair> I can't get it to exclude anything, not even an exact filename match
[17:27] <petete> it works here
[17:28] <petete> after accepting the config
[17:29] <amichair> I select 'hide files matching', write domains.txt in the pattern, deselect all other stuff, and apply - and the file 'domains.txt' still appears on the desktop
[17:30] <amichair> (*.txt or *.* or * don't do anything either)
[17:30] <petete> don't deselect all that stuff
[17:30] <petete> i think the hiding only works on the mimetypes you select
[17:31] <amichair> petete: ?
[17:31] <amichair> petete: how does that work?
[17:31] <petete> put in the patterns you want to hide and select all
[17:31] <amichair> petete: if I select e.g. 'all files', still nothing happens
[17:32] <amichair> petete: ah, now I'm getting somewhere. I don't understand it, but it's doing something :-)
[17:32] <petete> good :)
[17:33] <amichair> maybe my intuition is bad, but I understood that you can either type your own patterns, or check them off a fixed preset list
[17:33] <petete> i though so too
[17:34] <amichair> now it seems that neither the pattern nor the list do this,
[17:34] <amichair> but only their cross section is selected
[17:34] <amichair> very strange to me
[17:35] <amichair> is that a bug? maybe usability bug? or is it just me?
[17:35] <petete> but i think the pattern only searches for the files based on the mimetypes selected below
[17:35] <amichair> petete: what's more confusing, is that the list doesn't mention or show mime types anywhere. it shows file mask patterns too.
[17:37] <petete> for ex. "hide" - "*" - "ODT document" selected will hide all .odt files, but not all files
[17:38] <petete> yes, looks like an usability bug
[17:38] <petete> also you can't set several filters
[17:39] <petete> well you can, but then it's unnecessarily complex
[17:41] <petete> for ex. "show" - no pattern - all selected will not show any file
[17:41] <petete> for ex. "show" - * - all selected will show the files
[17:54] <amichair> petete: I added a comment to kde bug #266668, maybe it'll get fixed sometime
[17:54] <amichair> petete: but for now I have it doing what I want, so it's ok - thanks :-)
[17:59] <amichair> on to the next bug: resetting to defaults on some system settings doesn't really revert to the default (kubuntu) settings - e.g. some appearance settings, fonts, themes, etc. Is this a kde bug or a kubuntu bug?
[18:00] <amichair> I just realized it may be reverting to kde defaults rather than kubuntu defaults, which would make it a kubuntu bug. But then again, it might really be a kde bug where it just doesn't work.
[18:11] <Kaelo-Laptop> Anyone able to help with this? Trying to install Python3.1 and it returns an error. Here's the paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/627469/
[18:17] <BitOperator> Hello, does anyone know which effect to shut off to remove the blue glow around the active window ?
[18:18] <goodtime> change your theme
[18:19] <BitOperator> I enjoy the air theme I just dont like the glowing
[18:19] <goodtime> try to change your border in your themes
[18:20] <BitOperator> Thanks, will have a look
[18:20] <goodtime> yeah that should do it
[18:22] <BitOperator> yes indeed, was the window glow
[18:25] <BitOperator> KDE is very nice.
[18:41] <jimmy51_> when making a custom livecd, how can you set up a script to run on boot interactively? (as in... not an init daemon)
[18:42] <jimmy51_> i'm chroot'd into my mounted filesystem on the livecd and see no profiles under /home.  it makes me think the profile is created on startup.
[18:59] <jimmy51_> is there an "All Users" equivalent in Kubuntu?
[18:59] <jimmy51_> (like windows all users desktop folder, any shortcut in it is seen on all users desktops?)
[19:00] <mfraz74> I don't think there is
[19:16] <jimmy51_> hmm
[19:17] <jimmy51_> i'm striking out here on user environment customization on my custom live cd
[19:34] <c2tarun> anyone here using ubuntu and kubuntu on same kernel?
[19:45] <jimmy51_> Found it!
[19:49] <DeltaEpsilon> is QT bought by Nokia?
[19:53] <Peace-> DeltaEpsilon: qt is community
[19:53] <Peace-> qt is gpl and lgpl licensed
[20:00] <jimmy51_> can this be modifed to launch whatever command i want?  http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/bzr/espresso--mvo/desktop/ubiquity-kdeui.desktop
[20:12] <jimmy51_> how do i make a desktop entry to run a bash script?
[20:12] <jimmy51_> especially when the script requires sudo
[20:16] <BitOperator> jimmy51_:  What do you mean by desktop entry ?
[20:16] <jimmy51_> BitOperator: a "shortcut" in the Desktop panel.
[20:17] <jimmy51_> BitOperator: i think i might have figured out the problem.... i had to check the "run in terminal" box on the properties of the shortcut
[20:19] <BitOperator> ok, cool.
[20:19] <jimmy51_> now the trick is to get it embedded in my livecd
[20:19] <jimmy51_> :)
[20:20] <BitOperator> No idea how to make that work.
[20:23] <LINKSWORD2> I seem to have screwed up Quassel a bit. Any idea how to restore its default settings?
[20:25] <jimmy51_> BitOperator: i found the "Install Kubuntu 11.04" .desktop file in the /usr/share/application/kde4 directory.
[20:25] <manowar> Hello and good evening @ all. I have a small question: On my Archlinux running KDE 4.6.3 i saw that oxygen icons changed (folders in dolphin). My Kubuntu (KDE 4.6.4) still has the "old" oxygen icons. Have i overlooked anything?
[20:26] <jimmy51_> i'm just goign to edit it to launch what i want.  i see a scripts/10adduser that creates the livecd user.  it has a section that sed's the version number but otherwise doesn't touch the file.  i'll leave that as-is as well.
[20:27] <BitOperator> nice hack, sounds like it would work
[20:42] <jimmy51_> BitOperator: i hope it does :)
[20:42] <jimmy51_> is there no such thing as kdesu anymore?
[20:42] <jimmy51_> how do i launch dolphin with root priv?
[20:42] <jimmy51_> !kdesu
[20:42] <LINKSWORD2> Ugh. I need to fix Quassel.
[20:44] <LINKSWORD2> Tm_T: Hello.
[20:58] <LINKSWORD2> I need to delete ALL settings that have been applied to Quassel, and start over with it.
[20:58] <LINKSWORD2> Anybody know how?
[21:01] <sithlord48> LINKSWORD2:  rm ~/.kde/share/config/quasselrc
[21:01] <BlaXpirit> wouldn't apt-get purge work?
[21:02] <sithlord48> BlaXpirit:  yes but you will have to reinstall quassel afterwards.
[21:02] <sithlord48> plus purge does not remove stuff in your home dir (iirc)
[21:02] <BlaXpirit> oh ok.
[21:14] <LINKSWORD2> That didn't work... :/
[21:16] <LINKSWORD2> lcb!
[21:16] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: heya:)
[21:16] <LINKSWORD2> I could use your help, man... :/
[21:16] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: i have a problem.
[21:16] <LINKSWORD2> .... Oh, no...
[21:17] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: the problem is i don't have any problem today, besides that one.
[21:17] <LINKSWORD2> .... WTF?
[21:17] <lcb> oops... philosophy. wrong chan
[21:17] <lcb> lol
[21:17] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: how can i help helping?
[21:19] <LINKSWORD2> I may have to send you a screenshot... Not sure yet.
[21:19] <LINKSWORD2> But quassel is not showing who is sending which line of text...
[21:19] <LINKSWORD2> I think it is borked.... :o
[21:20] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: screnshoot it
[21:20] <lcb> text thingy or graphic?
[21:20] <LINKSWORD2> ...What?
[21:21] <lcb> the screenshot is from text or pic
[21:21] <lcb> picture/graphic
[21:22] <LINKSWORD2> I'll just show you.
[21:22] <LINKSWORD2> !pastebin
[21:22] <lcb> ahh ok
[21:23] <lcb> LINKSWORD2: so let me have handy my backup machine
[21:23]  * lcb believes LINKSWORD2 is going to make his machine to implode
[21:24] <LINKSWORD2> I just might.... lol
[21:24] <lcb> hehehe
[21:24] <LINKSWORD2> lcb, can I use /query with you?
[21:24] <lcb> sure
[21:52] <lcb> working well now, LINKSWORD2?
[21:53] <LINKSWORD2> Yeah.
[21:54] <lcb> good
[22:03] <xboxowns> Hey guys
[22:03] <xboxowns> how do you execute an sh script file?
[22:05] <shepherd> My panel is not getting any transparency at all, I have kwin effects enabled, can someone help me
[22:06] <BATi> xboxowns: preferably by axe :))) try "bash script.sh"
[22:06] <xboxowns> It failed though
[22:07] <xboxowns> Error the script was directly 'called'
[22:07] <xboxowns> Use either /absolute_path/launch_pcsx2_linux.sh or ./relative_path/launch_pcsx2_linux.sh
[22:08] <BATi> xboxowns: use absolute or relative path, then :)
[22:08] <xboxowns> Is it like that exactly?
[22:09] <xboxowns> do I type /absolute_path
[22:09] <xboxowns> or how do I type the absolute path
[22:10] <BATi> xboxowns: nope... they mean something like /home/xboxowns/blah/blah/script.sh... depends where is the script living
[22:11] <xboxowns> bash /home/fahedaldaye/Downloads/pcsx2-0.9.8-r4594-linux/launch_pcsx2_linux.sh
[22:11] <xboxowns> it failed it says no such directory exist and it actually exist
[22:13] <BATi> xboxowns: who says it? bash or script?
[22:13] <uberfrau> okay guys! super clutch major emergency: I have to be packed to move somewhere in 1 hour, and I need to get my wireless adapter to work so I have internet so I can work on programming at the new place ;o
[22:15] <xboxowns> what do you mean?
[22:15] <BATi> uberfrau: I think nobody will pack your stuff for you :) what seems to be a problem?
[22:16] <uberfrau> BATi: i can do that, i'm a minimalist so it isn't a ton of stuff...my wireless adapter is a Linksys AE1000, and my OS is Kubuntu 10.10, I have no idea how to troubleshoot for it or anything
[22:16] <uberfrau> *Cisco Linksys AE1000
[22:16] <uberfrau> came out July last year I believe
[22:17] <BATi> xboxowns: if the error is from the bash command or script itself...
[22:17] <xboxowns> I don't know
[22:17] <xboxowns> I don't know how to tell if it is from command or script
[22:17] <xboxowns> but all I wangted is to try to run the PS 2 emulator for linux
[22:17] <BATi> uberfrau: yes October 2010, it does not connect?
[22:17] <xboxowns> but when I double click the icon nothing happens
[22:17] <xboxowns> it acts like it is loading and then nothing happens
[22:18] <xboxowns> so I was wondering if I need this script
[22:18] <xboxowns> and it looks like I do...so I need to know how to run this script
[22:19] <uberfrau> ._.?
[22:19] <xboxowns> I thought running scripts are easy in linux...no?
[22:19] <BATi> xboxowns: I said, open konsole a run it with bash
[22:19] <xboxowns> konsole is open
[22:20] <xboxowns> i.e the black screen with a flashing cursor awaiting my commands with great anticipation..that console
[22:20] <BATi> uberfrau: I've asked, where is the problem? no cannot connect?
[22:20] <xboxowns> I type bash name of file
[22:20] <xboxowns> and I am here
[22:20] <uberfrau> BaTi: i tried getting it to work, so i had no connection
[22:20] <uberfrau> it doesn't even recognise it as a device
[22:21] <BATi> xboxowns: okay does the script have exec bit set? veryfy it with "ls -l ...Downloads/pcsx2.../
[22:22] <BATi> uberfrau: okay, does at least kernel "see" it in dmesg?
[22:22] <uberfrau> BATi: i don't know much about linux, i switched to avoid issues between Ruby and Windows ;/
[22:22] <xboxowns> -rwxr-xr-x 1 fahedaldaye fahedaldaye 1044 2011-04-25 10:36 launch_pcsx2_linux.sh
[22:24] <BATi> uberfrau: okay, but you can work with a shell, isn't it? try running "dmesg" from commadline and see if it mentions this card...
[22:24] <uberfrau> k, sec
[22:25] <BATi> xboxowns: right... so try "cd /home/fahedaldaye/Downloads/pcsx2-0.9.8-r4594-linux/" and then "./launch_pcsx2_linux.sh"
[22:26] <uberfrau> BATi: at the end of the output?
[22:26] <xboxowns> it says permission denied
[22:26] <xboxowns> there was a command like something i
[22:26] <xboxowns> or something like that then after that I can enter my password and have permission granted
[22:27] <xboxowns> was it sl?
[22:27] <xboxowns> sn?
[22:28] <uberfrau> http://www.pastie.org/private/x6kr4c5kbdi6sapubjfyvq the last 11 lines of dmesg, i assume that it's what is important since the wireless adapter is USB
[22:31] <xboxowns> I keep getting permission denied :(
[22:31] <uberfrau> BANi: i found a step by step thing, but would have to do it in 15 minutes, can you possibly help? i'll love you forever >.>
[22:31] <xboxowns> How do I access the password permission
[22:31] <xboxowns> to grand access?
[22:31] <uberfrau> uh, root?
[22:31] <xboxowns> yes
[22:31] <xboxowns> I am in root
[22:31] <xboxowns> now
[22:31] <xboxowns> is it sudo?
[22:31] <xboxowns> what do I do in sudo to allow me to enter password to grand access?
[22:33] <BATi> uberfrau: uh... I'll try... doest ifconfig -a or iwconfig list the card?
[22:33] <uberfrau> BATi: here ;o : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1455649 last post on the page
[22:33] <xboxowns> Phewy, forget the script
[22:34] <xboxowns> thanks guys anyways
[22:34] <xboxowns> talk to you later
[22:34] <uberfrau> buhbye
[22:34] <uberfrau> i see the card with lsusb ;o
[22:35] <BATi> uberfrau: heh, I've found same howto...
[22:35] <uberfrau> BATi: ^_^
[22:35] <uberfrau> so now what, that i see it?
[22:36] <BATi> uberfrau: so you followed the steps?
[22:36] <uberfrau> i've just done 1 :S
[22:37] <BATi> uberfrau: jeebus :) and why you didn't continue you would be done by now :)
[22:37] <uberfrau> loool
[22:38] <uberfrau> i still have about 15 minutes :S
[22:38] <uberfrau> just tell me what to do, if it's possible
[22:38] <uberfrau> if not i understand D:
[22:41] <BATi> uberfrau: use this one http://www.reddit.com/r/linux4noobs/comments/dphdy/so_my_wireless_card_broke_with_ubuntu_1010/ it is 10.10 specific...
[22:42] <uberfrau> BATi: i don't think i have time D:
[22:42] <uberfrau> i downloaded that driver though >>>
[22:42] <uberfrau> *>_>
[22:44] <BATi> uberfrau: I cannot freeze time :) if you have 10 steps 2-4 minutes each, neither me can stuff it in 15 mins...
[22:44] <uberfrau> looool
[22:44] <uberfrau> :\
[22:44] <uberfrau> i'll hook my computer in on the floor, and come on here to try to solve it, k?
[22:44] <BATi> uberfrau: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=244215 this is best I've found
[22:45] <BATi> uberfrau: if you give me more than 15 minutes, yes :)
[22:45] <uberfrau> okay
[22:45] <uberfrau> i'll be on later then, after the move
[22:45] <uberfrau> i need to get this to work because i'll be in the basement
[22:46] <uberfrau> a wire would be an inconvenience to everyone else
[22:46] <uberfrau> since i have downloaded that driver, could i try those instructions without a connection?
[22:47] <BATi> uberfrau: well, you can try it, but you will maybe need few more packages, I cannot tell at this stage...
[22:48] <BATi> uberfrau: definitely check gcc, make and kernel-devel
[22:48] <uberfrau> updating the function names part will be confusing >_>
[22:48] <uberfrau> never done that beforeee
[22:49] <BATi> uberfrau: fedoraforum link have it even with sed commandlines, just copy and paste...
[22:49] <uberfrau> mmm
[22:50] <BATi> uberfrau: install dkms, gcc, make while you are "on cable"
[22:50] <uberfrau> BATi: not seeing where that is :S
[22:51] <uberfrau> and F3 is not finding it for me >_>
[22:52] <BATi> uberfrau: where is what?
[22:52] <uberfrau> those items
[22:53] <BATi> uberfrau: oh... run in konsole "sudo apt-get install dkms gcc make"
[22:54] <uberfrau> BATi: already had them :)
[22:54] <uberfrau> anything else?
[22:56] <BATi> uberfrau: linux-headers-generic linux-libc-dev ... that should be sufficient
[22:58] <BATi> uberfrau: heh, you can install linux-source to have something nice to read before sleep :)
[23:07] <zzillezz> kubuntu website is down ?
[23:07] <uberfrau> BATi: lolno
[23:07] <uberfrau> buhbye
[23:08] <BATi> uberfrau: uh? 8-O
[23:08] <zzillezz> i only see a white page with 'ok'
[23:10] <BATi> zzillezz: it works now...
[23:13] <zzillezz> ok thx
[23:22] <areichman> is anybody here familiar with using manipulating xml in javascript? I'm having some issues in chromium using nodeValue