[00:00] <TuniX12> window:  it means write read execute
[00:00] <window> ok, but if u read the link he says name it chris-stream.sh but then he says "source code sudo cp chmod 775 chris-stream.sh"
[00:01] <TuniX12> window:  wait i will read it
[00:02] <TuniX12> window open konsole
[00:02] <TuniX12> ok?
[00:02] <window> done
[00:02] <window> *learning*(
[00:03] <TuniX12> now you have to know where did you put this file and in konsole tape :
[00:03] <window> tape?
[00:03] <TuniX12> cd 'file path'
[00:03] <TuniX12> write it mean
[00:03] <TuniX12> the file is in desktop?,
[00:04] <TuniX12> window put that file in your desktop
[00:04] <window> k
[00:04] <TuniX12> now open konsole and write : sudo chmod 775 chris-stream.sh
[00:05] <window> no such file or directory
[00:06] <window> what should i name it? "chmod 775 chris-stream.sh" ?
[00:06] <TuniX12> change directory to it /home/your_name/desktop
[00:07] <window> directory?
[00:07] <TuniX12> you should tell konsole where your file is placed
[00:07] <TuniX12> so it can access it
[00:08] <TuniX12> cd command means change directory
[00:08] <window> one sec
[00:08] <TuniX12> in the file manager you can see the path
[00:09] <window> wait, omg i'm so lost
[00:09] <window> what does CD do and what is it for?
[00:09] <engineer> al gore endorses obama
[00:09] <TuniX12> ok window i advise you to go to ubuntu channel
[00:09] <window> but i has Kubuntu
[00:10] <TuniX12> ok window  cd means change directory
[00:10] <TuniX12> its the same linux
[00:10] <window> what is it for?
[00:10] <engineer> man cd
[00:10] <TuniX12> it tell konsole the right path for wanted files
[00:10] <engineer> man <command>
[00:10] <engineer> to find what the command is for
[00:11] <window> ok TuniX, and why am I doing this?
[00:11] <TuniX12> i explained that
[00:11] <TuniX12> lol
[00:12] <window> how do i find out what the directory is? it's on my desktop
[00:12] <engineer> cd /home/window/Desktop
[00:12] <TuniX12> open konsole and just write cd
[00:12] <TuniX12> then write ls
[00:13] <window> OH
[00:13] <window> OMG I GOT IT
[00:13] <window> ok so now i'm in the Desktop
[00:13] <TuniX12> ok
[00:13] <TuniX12> now write sudo  chmod 775 chris-stream.sh
[00:14] <engineer> chmod +x chris-stream.sh
[00:14] <window> done, i got no response
[00:14] <engineer> no response is given
[00:14] <engineer> ls -l
[00:14] <window> good, good
[00:14] <TuniX12> paf
[00:15] <engineer> check if x appears on the left in all collums
[00:15] <window> can anyone tell me what the 775 was for?
[00:15] <engineer> man chmod
[00:15] <TuniX12> read write execute for group
[00:15] <window> engineer, i typed TuniX' code, not urs
[00:15] <Lupus-SLE> Good day everypeople!
[00:15] <window> mk
[00:15] <monk3y> what was the key binding for the window where u can close applications and so? cant remember its name..
[00:16] <TuniX12> window: just go to #ubuntu
[00:16] <engineer> win+d
[00:16] <Lupus-SLE> For some reason... my optical drives won't be read by anything... I put a DVD in or a CD and it doesn't seem to pick up
[00:16] <Lupus-SLE> What's up with that?
[00:16] <engineer> tried mounting manually?
[00:16] <monk3y> my bro has same problem
[00:18] <Aw0L_> so is selecting "Administrator Mode" from Control Panel supposed to send me back to the control panel main page?
[00:18] <Aw0L_> feels buggy
[00:19] <engineer> what's the kubuntu michigan channel?
[00:20] <engineer> Aw0L_ kde4?
[00:20] <monk3y> good night peeps
[00:20] <engineer> !us
[00:21] <engineer> !es
[00:21] <monk3y> !fin
[00:21] <engineer> !michigan
[00:21] <Lupus-SLE> engineer: Mounting manually tells me that the superblock is write protected... and that it's the wrong fs type
[00:23] <Aw0L_> engineer, no, three
[00:23] <Aw0L_> engineer, seems like if you set a root password in kubuntu, the admin privilege stuff acts funny
[00:23] <lilith> you should just use sudo, in ubuntu is the same
[00:24] <engineer> works fine here
[00:24] <Aw0L_> you have a root pw set
[00:24] <Aw0L_> ?
[00:24] <engineer> Aw0L find the settings command
[00:24] <engineer> and run it this way: kdesu <settings>
[00:27] <Lupus-SLE> Ok I've cocked up
[00:27] <Lupus-SLE> For some reason my optical drives have disapeared off the face of the planet
[00:28] <Lupus-SLE> That... and I've screwed with fstab
[00:28] <Lupus-SLE> Can somebody please show me the default dvd read/write line?
[00:29] <TuniX12> lupus goto #ubuntu
[00:29] <Lupus-SLE> Why?
[00:30] <Aw0L_> engineer, you have to have the correct permissions on the /etc/sudoers file - I changed mine for editing
[00:30] <engineer> k
[00:30] <Lupus-SLE> TuniX12: Why?
[00:30] <TuniX12> lore active
[00:30] <TuniX12> more
[00:33] <teque> hola eledix
[00:33] <teque> estas hay?
[00:35] <TuniX12> !es| teque
[00:35] <engineer> TuniX12 teque left
[00:35] <TuniX12> ah
[00:42] <Invisionfree> How do I install a .cur mouse pointer?
[00:43] <xx_DrUnKeN_TiGeR> hello all
[00:44] <xx_DrUnKeN_TiGeR> anyone here
[00:44] <engineer> nop
[00:45] <xx_DrUnKeN_TiGeR> lol
[00:45] <engineer> Instead of asking whether anyone works with something you need help with, please save time by asking your actual question. If someone knows and wants/has time to help, perhaps he/she will.
[00:47] <Jucato> !anyone
[00:48] <Invisionfree> Jucato: Any luck?
[00:48] <Invisionfree> I also have a .zip with like 4 .cur files in it that it didn't take
[00:48] <boggystudios> does anyone here have a Sansa View?
[00:53] <pucko-> what is a sansa view?
[00:56] <NickPresta> !away > pascutti
[00:56] <pascutti> !away
[00:57] <pascutti> ah... ok... htanks, sorry
[00:59] <Invisionfree> How do I convert a CUR into a linux curso?
[01:15] <byteme_> how do I check the amount of memory I have and CPU speed and all that stuff in 7.10?
[01:17] <jhutchins> byteme_: Well, there's /proc/cpuinfo for the CPU, free and top for memory and load.  Remember that linus will always use all of your memory.
[01:17] <engineer> byteme_ top
[01:18] <stdin> jhutchins: linus can use his own memory ;)
[01:20] <byteme_> do I have to get the info seprately (i.e. ram, cpu, disk space)?
[01:23] <lakis1982> hi ,.. i have a problem adding new desktops .. i go to configure desktops i add desktops but nothing happens .. this is happening when i have the option custom effects selected in the desktop effects... when i select the option no effects then i can add desktops normally ... whats going on ??
[01:23] <byteme_> I am looking for the similar results of system properties in Windows
[01:23] <Awsoonn> what package contains the 'Add Printer wizard'
[01:24] <Awsoonn> byteme_: cat /proc/meminfo
[01:24] <Awsoonn> byteme_: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[01:24] <Jucato> lakis1982: Compiz-Fusion, that's what's going on
[01:24] <Awsoonn> byteme_: and df
[01:24] <Jucato> it's interfering with normal KDE desktop management.
[01:25] <lakis1982> what you mean?
[01:25] <Jucato> byteme_: try taking a look at ksysguard (dunno about the disk space though)
[01:26] <lakis1982> jucato?
[01:26] <Jucato> lakis1982: I mean that Compiz-Fusion, the "Desktop Effects", is incompatible with KDE virtual desktops. that's why nothing happens when you try to add a desktop the normal KDE way when Desktop Effects are enabled
[01:26] <Jucato> I think Compiz uses a different way to add a virtual desktop (which they call viewports)
[01:26] <lakis1982> what shoudl i do ?
[01:26] <Jucato> ask in #compiz-fusion
[01:27] <byteme_> thanks all lot bro: Awsoonn
[01:57] <ttuuxxx> Hi I'm building KDE on a none kde distro, And well its working well But I'm Having a couple of small issues the first 2 are.Any Ideas how to fix "CData" and "Could not find mime type application/octet-stream" and this is what it looks like http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9425/bibletimecdatanl4.png
[01:59] <ttuuxxx> On ya I'm using Ubuntu intrepid packages to get kde working
[01:59] <NickPresta> ttuuxxx, that CDATA bit is from an XML or XHTML document. It is used to wrap CSS/JavaScript.
[02:00] <NickPresta> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDATA
[02:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> ttuuxxx: you're using intrepid packages to build kde on a distro that isn't ubuntu?
[02:03] <ttuuxxx> yes Daisuke and its working excellent, the kde base is 40mb compressed and things like k3b i have working perfectly and its a 7mb compressed, bibletime is 8mb compressed etc, they both work really well.
[02:04] <ttuuxxx> Its taken me around 2weeks to get the bugs/build out
[02:04] <ttuuxxx> around 90+hrs
[02:05] <NickPresta> ttuuxxx, you could have installed any other generic distro, installed their KDE packages (or builds) and saved yourself some time
[02:05] <ttuuxxx> I have kde running on puppy linux wich is gtk2 + Qt4 strictly, Basically I could have a the default puppy applications , plus k3b and bible time on a 150MB cd, which I can run live or install
[02:06] <NegroAgy> hi
[02:06] <NegroAgy> realplayer for linux  wher i fond?  download?
[02:06] <ttuuxxx> hi NegroAgy
[02:06] <ttuuxxx> thats easy i'll get a link
[02:06] <NegroAgy> thx
[02:07] <NegroAgy> iam new in linux
[02:08] <ttuuxxx> just download http://www.real.com/linux and change the file permissions and execute from console , it self installs
[02:08] <NickPresta> !realplayer
[02:08] <NegroAgy> ok
[02:08] <NegroAgy> ill try but  need help tu get orders..
[02:08] <NegroAgy> _P
[02:08] <NegroAgy> :P
[02:09] <shaffy> if i'm formatting an external harddrive (used strictly for storage), is it necessary to have 5% of the filesystem blocks reserved for the super user?  can i make this 0%?
[02:18] <ivan_> hi, i was updating my kubuntu kde 4 and a black out happened when it was configuring ssl-cert, and now im haviong problems how can i fix this??
[02:27] <NegroAgy> yhi
[02:27] <NegroAgy> need help
[02:27] <NegroAgy> Enter the complete path to the directory where you want
[02:27] <NegroAgy> RealPlayer to be installed.  You must specify the full
[02:27] <NegroAgy> pathname of the directory and have write privileges to
[02:27] <NegroAgy> the chosen directory.
[02:27] <NegroAgy> Directory:  [/opt/real/RealPlayer]:
[02:27] <NegroAgy> what can i write?
[02:29] <pucko-> to get full permissions?
[02:29] <NegroAgy> hi
[02:29] <NegroAgy> yes
[02:29] <pucko-> chmod +rwx /path/to/dir
[02:30] <NegroAgy> thx
[02:30] <NegroAgy> i copy
[02:31] <NegroAgy> Destination:            chmod +rwx /path/to/dir
[02:31] <NegroAgy> Enter [F]inish to begin copying files, or [P]revious to go
[02:31] <NegroAgy> back to the previous prompts: [F]:
[02:31] <pucko-> might not be exactly what you want though
[02:31] <NegroAgy> :(
[02:32] <NegroAgy> iam beginer
[02:32] <NegroAgy> 4 days install linux.....
[02:32] <pucko-> ok..
[02:32] <NegroAgy> :D
[02:32] <RurouniJones> Howdy all, does anyone know why I can no longer automount USB devices like an iPod in Hardy? I have read on the forums that this is a widespread problem that started ocuring recently but haven't been able to find an answer. I get "Permissions denied" when I try and automount
[02:32] <pucko-> so, realplayer installer just wants to write to /opt
[02:33] <pucko-> if you install it as root (or sudo) you don't need to change anything
[02:33] <NegroAgy> then i push F
[02:33] <NegroAgy> ok?
[02:33] <pucko-> but as user, you should set a group or something.
[02:33] <pucko-> let it be as it was before you asked me :)
[02:34] <NegroAgy> i install with sudo
[02:34] <pucko-> hit it :)
[02:34] <NegroAgy> oki
[02:34] <NegroAgy> :D
[02:35] <NegroAgy> complet
[02:35] <NegroAgy> ready?
[02:35] <NegroAgy> thats it?
[02:35] <NegroAgy> hehe
[02:35] <pucko-> um, yes. but there's a simpler way. realplayer already exists in repository
[02:37] <pucko-> or so I thought
[02:39] <NegroAgy> ok
[02:39] <NegroAgy> i give up
[02:39] <NegroAgy> i go to sleep
[02:39] <RurouniJones> Does anyone know why I can no longer automount USB devices like an iPod in Hardy? I have read on the forums that this is a widespread problem that started ocuring recently but haven't been able to find an answer. I get "Permissions denied" when I try and automount. This worked fine in Feisty, if I manually mount it I cannot access it in amarok because I cannot create a lockfile in the /media directory.
[02:40] <NegroAgy> have nice moning
[02:40] <boggystudios> Does anyone here know how to change the preferred format of an MTP device in amarok?
[02:43] <ivan_> hello, can someone tell me what is the replace for kate in kubuntu 8.04??
[02:43] <ivan_> !kate
[02:43] <boggystudios> !amarok
[02:44] <Jucato> ivan_: KDE 4?
[02:44] <boggystudios> !transkode
[02:45] <ivan_> Jucato, yes, and please dont send me to kubuntu-kde4 no one answers there
[02:45] <Jucato> ivan_: kwrite is the default KDE 4 text editor. you can still install kate if you need it
[02:45] <Jucato> as for no one answering there
[02:45] <Jucato> !patience | ivan_
[02:46] <Jucato> !night | ivan_
[02:46] <Jucato> (sort of)
[02:47] <Jucato> (kwrite has always been the *default* KDE text editor in KDE 3. Kubuntu changed it to kate)
[02:47] <ivan_> Jucato ok thanks
[02:48] <ivan_> oh this is a basic question, how do i start an application as super user??
[02:48] <Jucato> if it's a graphical app, "kdesu <appname>"
[02:48] <Jucato> !kdesu | ivan_
[02:48] <solo> Where can i find my systems stats? like HD MEM etc???
[02:50] <genii> solo: KButton...System...KInfoCenter
[02:51] <solo> lol... it was hiding
[02:51] <solo> thanks
[02:51] <darkdelusions> genii: You beat me to it :)
[02:52] <genii> darkdelusions: Apologies :)
[02:52] <solo>  ok next question.. why is my system using almost 500mb physical mem??
[02:52] <solo> ill send a PM to someone with the mem stats if you would like to see
[02:53] <Jucato> !ram | solo
[02:53] <solo> ty
[02:55] <solo>  Keeping the cache means that if something needs the same data again, there's a good chance it will still be in the cache in memory. Fetching the information from there is around 1,000 times quicker than getting it from the hard disk.
[02:55] <solo> there is my answer and why Linux is so damn fast! :) I likie
[02:56] <darkdelusions> it has hella better memory managment? :)
[02:56] <pucko-> I've always found it slow
[02:56] <solo> ohh yes... ill never use a Winblows system again... hands down
[02:57] <solo> pucko| what do u have under the hood??
[02:57] <darkdelusions> solo: you say that till you find that 1 windows application that you cant live without and cant find a linux alterntive :)
[02:57] <solo> this is only a 700 with 512mb and 20gig HD
[02:58] <solo> dark... | ill find a way to live without it... im not a gamer so there went alot of reasons
[02:58] <darkdelusions> I used to do it all the time then I was finally like the heck with it i can live without :)
[02:58] <pucko-> only 450mhz p3, 192mb ram, but window still feels faster, for simple things.
[02:58] <solo> i am kinda sad that !yahoo msgr dosent work here though
[02:59] <darkdelusions> Solo use kopete
[02:59] <darkdelusions> its an all in one instant msgr
[02:59] <solo> pucko | PM me... posible i can send you a few processors
[02:59] <solo> yeah thats what i use
[03:00] <solo> pucko | i also have some ram im not using
[03:01] <solo> pucko| its light weight so i would not mind mailing you some stuff... having a shity computer is tuff on the nerves
[03:02] <pucko-> no, thanks. besides, it's an laptop it wont accept more memory
[03:04] <solo> ohh ok
[03:05] <solo> well if anyone else here needs something let me know... i like to help ppl
[03:05] <jimmy51_home> weird... just had an update require a restart!
[03:05] <jimmy51_home> haven't seen those since XP
[03:05] <solo> !with in reason!
[03:05] <solo> lol oops
[03:05] <Jucato> jimmy51_home: it means that you had a kernel update
[03:05] <solo> go figure
[03:06] <jimmy51_home> i see
[03:06] <Jucato> that's about the only time you will need to reboot. but even then it's optional until you actually want to use the new kernel
[03:06] <jimmy51_home> jucato, how does that work?  i mean, updating stuff that's currently running?  i've updated apps right underneath themselves quite a bit.
[03:06] <solo> i just found a computer on the side of the road today that had a HP burner and 30gig HD in it... and it all works
[03:07] <solo> :D
[03:07] <solo> ... and 64md stick
[03:07] <Jucato> jimmy51_home: no problem with that usually. and in the case of a kernel upgrade, it actually doesn't upgrade an already running kernel. it installs a new copy of the latest kernel
[03:07] <Jucato> (so basically a "kernel upgrade" is actually installing a new, separate kernel)
[03:07] <jimmy51_home> does it retain the old, but just change the default grub entry?
[03:08] <Jucato> yep yep
[03:08] <jimmy51_home> how would... say, a firefox update work?
[03:08] <Jucato> it always retains the old kernels and adds the new one to grub
[03:08] <jimmy51_home> i've updated firefox through adept, while browsing with firefox
[03:08] <pucko-> jucato, not really
[03:09] <Jucato> pucko-: which one? ;)
[03:09]  * Jucato said a lot of things
[03:09] <jimmy51_home> oh!  i always tell it to keep the current menu.lst.  i suppose i'm missing out on the newest kernel then
[03:12] <solo> is this the only channel on this server??
[03:12] <jimmy51_home> solo, nope
[03:12] <solo> i dont get anythig on channel list with Konversation
[03:13] <jimmy51_home> did you click "apply filter" ?
[03:13] <Ekushey> solo, type /join #channel_name to join a channel
[03:13] <solo> yeah
[03:13] <solo> tried everything
[03:13] <Ekushey> solo, what happens?
[03:13] <solo> nothing
[03:14] <solo> ohh you mean the join command??
[03:14] <jimmy51_home> maybe it's taking your name literally
[03:14] <jimmy51_home> :)
[03:14] <solo> lol nice on
[03:14] <solo> one*
[03:14] <jimmy51_home> good night fellas, it would all be downhill from that one
[03:14] <solo> anyways... i can join channels but cant get a list
[03:14] <solo> nite Jimmy
[03:15] <Ekushey> solo, what do you mean by list?
[03:15] <Ekushey> solo, do you mean a list of channels that are available on freenode?
[03:15] <solo> yes
[03:16] <Jucato> solo: you can type /list but be warned, you might get disconnected
[03:17] <solo> tried that... server load too high
[03:17] <Ekushey> solo, then you need to wait... it's a freenode issue
[03:18] <solo> k
[03:19] <darkdelusions> or you can randomly go around /whois people :) and join every channel there in
[03:19] <darkdelusions> then you pm them and be like I am stalking you
[03:20] <solo> and get dDOSed
[03:24] <solo> another question.. is there somewhere i can go and see if my usb is turned on in bios with out going into bios??
[03:25] <solo> cancel that
[03:25] <solo> same place... Kinfo
[03:26] <solo> now the question is... I have my phone pluged in... how can i access it?? ive searched all over the net for the software for the phone and cant find it... and the manufacturer site is shit
[03:27] <pucko-> what kind of phone?
[03:27] <epimeth> solo: which phone?
[03:27] <pucko-> solo, check lspci|grep -i usb
[03:28] <solo> Utstarcom CDM7126
[03:28] <solo> the USB is up... and the phone is listed as pluged in so thats good
[03:30] <solo> the maker is www.utstar.com
[03:30] <darkdelusions> solo: I googled it and was unable to find anything
[03:32] <solo> the phone they show on there site is not the phone i have http://handsets.utstar.com/Phones.aspx?sLoc=0&sLoad=All... the picture of the phone i have is at http://www.mycricket.com/cricketphones/details/7126
[03:34] <epimeth> solo: have you tried kmobiletools?
[03:37] <solo> nope.. where do i get it? package manager??
[03:37] <Ekushey> solo, yes
[03:37] <epimeth> yup
[03:39] <solo> ty
[03:39] <solo> getting now... let ya know
[03:40] <solo> send email to their support team but they will want money im sure
[03:41] <solo> lol it installed but now i cant find it... why dosent the package man. tell you where its going to put it???
[03:42] <epimeth> lol
[03:42] <epimeth> true
[03:43] <epimeth> its probably in utilities
[03:43] <epimeth> but you can just alt+f2 kmobiletools
[03:43] <solo> ohh kewl
[03:44] <epimeth> !paste > solo
[03:44] <epimeth> !paste | solo
[03:46] <solo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20754/
[03:46] <solo> thats the startup screen for the Kmoble
[03:46] <epimeth> let me install it....
[03:47] <solo> moble phone device is set to: /dev/mobile  .... i dont know where to find the USB connection
[03:49] <solo> when i plug in the phone the phone does nothing and the PC does nothing
[03:50] <solo> on a winblows system it would try to search for the software drivers but at least list it as removable storage
[03:53] <epimeth> solo: okay... here you have to go read the manual
[03:54] <epimeth> solo: http://www.kmobiletools.org/
[03:55] <epimeth> solo: you gonna give it a shot by yourself or you want me to help walk you through it?
[03:56] <solo> help with what???
[03:56] <solo> that site? lol tells me nothing
[03:56] <solo> and id love some help
[03:57] <solo> i want to add stuff to this phone with out having to pay for it
[03:57] <solo> ill give anything i have to anyone... EXCEPT MY MONEY
[03:58] <solo> ... hence the free operating system
[03:59] <darkdelusions> Solo: what is your goal with it just adding ring tones? what?
[03:59] <solo> yeah and the phone i have wont let web sites send them for some reason.. there are also some app that id like to try to load
[03:59] <solo> GPS ect
[04:00] <solo> the damn thing is brand new w/ bluetooth and wont receive a freakin SMS ringtone from myxertones.com
[04:00] <solo> wtf
[04:00] <jox> hola
[04:01] <solo> hola que pasa
[04:01] <darkdelusions> Hi jox
[04:01] <jox> darkdelusions:  hi!
[04:01] <NickPresta> !es | jox
[04:20] <Richard_Balls> How can I create a Kubuntu 8.04 live usb drive?
[04:26] <flaccid> !usb | Richard_Balls
[04:30] <Richard_Balls> thanks
[04:31] <compilerwriter> Richard_Balls Here is the linke to a google search I did on the subject if those don't help you http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=how+to+make+kubuntu+thumb+drive+live&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[04:31] <usamahashimi> Hello Everyone
[04:32] <flaccid> hi
[04:32] <usamahashimi> I have mistakenly delete the file /etc/apt/sources.list, from which website i can find the repos for ubuntu 8.04?
[04:33] <flaccid> usamahashimi: should just be able to re-enable them in adept manager in manage repositories
[04:34] <usamahashimi> flaccid: adept is adding only two repos and from my previous hardy experience i remember that there were 5 or 6 repos
[04:34] <flaccid> adept can add a lot more than 2 by default, which do you need
[04:35] <usamahashimi> flaccid: lemme try again and i will tell you the result
[04:35] <flaccid> ok
[04:36] <usamahashimi> flaccid: yes, thanks :)
[04:36] <flaccid> np
[04:36] <usamahashimi> flaccid: should i also add the "Unsupported Updates"?
[04:37] <flaccid> up to you, there usually isnt a need unless you find one
[04:37] <usamahashimi> flaccid: is there any harm in adding it?
[04:38] <flaccid> not usually, i enable it and then if i find a bug i look into it
[04:38] <usamahashimi> flaccid: ok, thanks a lot
[04:38] <flaccid> np
[04:40] <comodo> hey can someone help me i cant get deluge-torrent to open in kubuntu
[04:41] <flaccid> comodo: run it from konsole, what happens?
[04:41] <comodo> le "/usr/bin/deluge", line 123, in <module>
[04:41] <comodo>     subprocess.Popen(["dbus-launch", "deluge"] + sys.argv[1:])
[04:41] <comodo>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/subprocess.py", line 594, in __init__
[04:41] <comodo>     errread, errwrite)
[04:41] <comodo>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/subprocess.py", line 1147, in _execute_child
[04:41] <comodo>     raise child_exception
[04:41] <comodo> OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory
[04:41] <flaccid> !pastebin | comodo
[04:41] <flaccid> i suggest googling the errors
[04:42] <comodo> sorry http://paste.ubuntu.com/20761/
[04:44] <flaccid> comodo: lots on google about the error
[04:44] <flaccid> comodo: this is trying to install from repos?
[04:44] <flaccid> !info deluge-torrent
[04:46] <genii> The fix for deluge-torrent suggested at http://forum.deluge-torrent.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4875 is: sudo apt-get install dbus-x11
[04:47] <flaccid> cool
[04:48]  * genii sips his beer
[04:48]  * flaccid gets jealous about the beer
[04:49]  * genii checks flaccid's ID then slides him a beer
[04:49] <flaccid> hehe cheers!
[04:49] <genii> :)
[04:49] <genii> Gotta keep it family-friendly, etc
[04:50] <flaccid> totally
[05:03] <codster> Hey i was wondering if anyone use's themes with Beryl and if so where do they get theme?
[05:05] <doorknob60> beryl...you mean emerald?
[05:05] <codster> well
[05:05] <codster> im not sure
[05:05] <codster> i have emerald and Beryl
[05:05] <codster> im not sure how to get or apply themes?
[05:05] <doorknob60> what kubuntu version you got? beryl is outdated, its called compiz fusion now
[05:06] <codster> ohh
[05:06] <codster> i have 7.04
[05:06] <codster> :(
[05:06] <doorknob60> id upgrade if i were you
[05:06] <codster> i know
[05:06] <doorknob60> but you dont need to
[05:06] <codster> but im learning so there is no rush
[05:07] <doorknob60> if your talking about emerald themes (the title bar themes), then theres should be an emerald theme manager somewhere
[05:07] <codster> Well Compiz Fusion do i get that in the repos in my Version of Kubuntu?
[05:07] <doorknob60> i havent used beryl, just compiz so idk if your not talking about emerald themes
[05:07] <doorknob60> i dont think compiz fusion is in 7.04
[05:08] <flaccid> is that feisty?
[05:08] <doorknob60> yeah
[05:08] <flaccid> !info compiz-fusion feisty
[05:08] <flaccid> !info compiz-fusion fiesty
[05:08] <doorknob60> in october, feisty is unsupported and the repositories for it will go bye bye, so id upgrade soon
[05:08] <codster> not sure i think it is,
[05:09] <codster> :(
[05:09] <codster> really
[05:09] <doorknob60> yeah 7.04=feisty
[05:09] <codster> can i upgrade without a CD?
[05:09] <doorknob60> yeah
[05:09] <codster> from using this present..
[05:09] <doorknob60> 1 sec ill get a guide
[05:09] <codster> okay
[05:09] <codster> thanks
[05:09] <EightiesK> lol i have a 5.04 cd...
[05:09] <codster> lol im a little far behind. i dont want KDE 4.0 thou'
[05:09] <codster> i have a6.06 :(
[05:09] <codster> LTS :D
[05:09] <flaccid> compiz is in feisty but not compiz-fusion it seems
[05:09] <codster> well is 8.04 come with KDE4.0 by default?
[05:10] <codster> or whichever the version is now.
[05:10] <doorknob60> 8.04 default comes with 3.5.9
[05:10] <doorknob60> 4.0 is too buggy rigth now
[05:11] <codster> okay good
[05:11] <codster> thats what i like to hear lol, i heard its buggy too.
[05:11] <doorknob60> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades/Kubuntu
[05:11] <codster> thanks :D
[05:11] <doorknob60> thats for 7.10 to 8.04 but ti should apply from 7.04 to 7.10 also
[05:11] <codster> okay
[05:11] <doorknob60> then wen your on 7.10 you can upgrade again to 8.04
[05:11] <codster> lol wish me luck if not ill get a CD later
[05:11] <flaccid> well technically you can upgrade from whatever. i've done dapper to hardy a few times
[05:11] <doorknob60> ok
[05:11] <codster> uhh lol
[05:12] <doorknob60> well dapper is lts so they let you go to hardy
[05:12] <doorknob60> on feisty and edgy you gotta go one at a tim
[05:12] <flaccid> kind of. they say here they don't support such an upgrade..
[05:12] <codster> so this only says 7.10 to 8.04?
[05:12] <codster> the guide?
[05:13] <flaccid> doorknob60: you don't. i've done an upgrade to hardy from all of them straight up
[05:13] <doorknob60> yeah, but it applys for 7.04 to 7.10
[05:13] <codster> okay
[05:13] <flaccid> smoothness of upgrades always varies
[05:13] <codster> thanks i thought you ment "Upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 then from 7.10 to 8.04" shesh i dont have that much time lol,
[05:13] <doorknob60> thats the supported way
[05:14] <doorknob60> i think 7.04 to 8.04 might require manual editing of sources.list
[05:14] <flaccid> in theory you may run into less problems doing it that way
[05:14] <codster> uhh
[05:14] <codster> great
[05:14] <codster> i think ill just order a CD
[05:14] <codster> lol
[05:14] <doorknob60> no need
[05:14] <codster> will save me the hassle, i hate the editing list's and texts and things
[05:14] <codster> but i need to learn
[05:14] <doorknob60> its easy
[05:14] <codster> well i dont want to upgrade if its going to cause problems
[05:15] <doorknob60> press alt f2 and type this: kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:15] <codster> ohh
[05:15] <doorknob60> then change everywhere it says 'feisty' to 'hardy'
[05:15] <codster> thats it?
[05:15] <codster> 0.0 lol i thought it would be much harder
[05:15] <doorknob60> then run sudo apt-get update
[05:15] <flaccid> then you gotta perform the upgrade :)
[05:15] <doorknob60> then run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:15] <codster> well i'll try the upgrade, if all else fails i dont mind reinstalling.
[05:15] <doorknob60> that should do it
[05:15] <codster> shesh
[05:15] <codster> lol
[05:16] <codster> and i will go to 8.04?
[05:16] <doorknob60> i upgraded my debian from etch to lenny succesfully using the same mehtod today
[05:16] <codster> let me right that down
[05:16] <doorknob60> yeah thats striiahgt to 8.04 :)
[05:18] <codster> Could they make Linux as easy as windows, and if they did. Would it contain Virus's like windows? Because somethings i could see being as an improvement for me (noob) user lol
[05:18] <codster> i just wanted to know althou i am a little offtopic :(
[05:18] <flaccid> they are working towards it, but a lot the problems are with vendors
[05:19] <doorknob60> yeah
[05:19] <doorknob60> clean install of windows is harder than clean (k)ubuntu install
[05:19] <codster> yeah, i totally understand things like that, its just when i come to Kubuntu its a little harder, But yet its easier to deal with.
[05:19] <codster> yeah thats for sure
[05:19] <doorknob60> but ubuntu seems harder because you gotta set it up yourself when windows typically is preinstalled and working
[05:19] <flaccid> you said it!
[05:19] <codster> yeah thats what i mean
[05:19] <flaccid> doorknob60: not when you have to install drivers after
[05:20] <codster> and this editing things? i took one look and in my head "ahhh" lol, i dont wanna mess around with things.
[05:20] <flaccid> you gotta install office, ant-virus and all that
[05:20] <doorknob60> well when you buy a new computer with windows it includes the needed drivers
[05:20] <codster> yeah which bog's down your system and it goes downhill from that
[05:20] <doorknob60> yeah i know
[05:20] <flaccid> who needs to buy a new computer ?
[05:20] <codster> :D
[05:20] <flaccid> you don't have to edit things much at all in hardy+
[05:20] <doorknob60> i always build them
[05:20] <codster> well im going to install 8.04 thanks for the help
[05:20] <codster> okay thanks
[05:21] <codster> bye
[05:21] <flaccid> ciao
[05:21] <doorknob60> alot cheaper than buying your own comp
[05:21] <comodo> i have checked all of my errors on google but no results
[05:21] <flaccid> windows + msoffice + av = a lot of money
[05:21] <doorknob60> i got a decent cpu and mobo for under $150
[05:21] <comodo> i can't figure tis out
[05:21] <[zEr0-x]> is a very very small pic, don't u have a big one ?
[05:22] <flaccid> comodo: how did you go doing the fix?
[05:22] <comodo> i just googled the errors
[05:22] <comodo> i cannot find anything on them
[05:22] <flaccid> [13:46] <genii> The fix for deluge-torrent suggested at http://forum.deluge-torrent.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4875 is: sudo apt-get install dbus-x11
[05:23] <comodo> nice i'll try that thanks
[05:23] <flaccid> coolio
[05:23] <doorknob60> who here has an ati card? how well does it work?
[05:23] <flaccid> its alright, im on one atm
[05:24] <codster> when i typed thoes commands in it did not do anything in upgrading
[05:24] <doorknob60> my new mobo apperantly doesnt support nvidia 8 series cards for some reason so i might have to buy ati
[05:24] <flaccid> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]
[05:24] <comodo> wow now it opens thanks flaccid i appricate it
[05:24] <flaccid> np comodo
[05:24] <codster> It just showed a list of text of websites and it didnt do anything
[05:24] <flaccid> doorknob60: nvidia 9600gt is better choice
[05:24] <doorknob60> it might have problems with 9 sersies too though, not sure yet
[05:25] <flaccid> codster: pastebin both your /etc/apt/sources.list and output of sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:25] <doorknob60> 3 out of 3 newegg reviews say 8 series doesnt work, i bought mobo before any of those reviews
[05:25] <doorknob60> noone of them say anything about 9 series
[05:25] <codster> shoot
[05:25] <codster> one second
[05:25] <flaccid> doorknob60: weird
[05:25] <doorknob60> it has integrated ati :P
[05:25] <doorknob60> probly related to that
[05:25] <flaccid> still latest nvidia drivers have issues that slow em down by heaps atm
[05:26] <flaccid> the restricted one
[05:26] <doorknob60> im using latest nvidia drivers on my nvidia 5200 no probolems
[05:26] <flaccid> yeah, but depending on what version you may not be getting full fps
[05:26] <doorknob60> glxgears shows the same as ive gotten since 7.04
[05:26] <flaccid> thats good
[05:27] <doorknob60> i know glxgears isnt benchmark but idc
[05:27] <doorknob60> no problems here, im on debian lenny though
[05:27] <flaccid> i can't remember what exactly it affects. kde4 devs found it by accident in testing
[05:27] <doorknob60> hmm, maybe its a kde4 bug or something?
[05:27] <flaccid> nah they worked it out to be the driver, but can't remember what exactly
[05:28] <doorknob60> ah ok
[05:28] <doorknob60> doesnt affect me so thats fine :)
[05:28] <flaccid> yeah
[05:28] <doorknob60> so do you have any weird problems with the ati driver?
[05:28] <flaccid> i think it affects me. aint getting the high fps i should
[05:28] <snake> has anyone resolved the dolphin problem with html files ?
[05:28] <flaccid> ati is a pita, but its ok. its always the complaints about setting up dual display etc
[05:29] <doorknob60> i like dual monitors....hmm...
[05:29] <codster> flaccid, its right here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/20768/
[05:29] <doorknob60> does tv out work?
[05:29] <flaccid> um i havnt really tried but i couldn't get the s-video to go in the past on restricted..
[05:30] <doorknob60> meh
[05:30] <doorknob60> thats what i need, svideo out and dual screens
[05:30] <doorknob60> works perfect on geforce 5200
[05:30] <flaccid> restricted drivers need to support the other ports in randr..
[05:30] <flaccid> using nvidia driver?
[05:30] <doorknob60> yeah, installed manually off nvidia site a few days ago
[05:31] <doorknob60> debian doesnt need no bloated restricted manager :P
[05:31] <flaccid> codster: doesn't look like you did the text replace of 'feisty' to 'hardy' in sources.list
[05:31] <codster> ohh shoot
[05:31] <codster> lol
[05:31] <codster> okay one second lol
[05:31] <codster> my mistake
[05:31] <flaccid> doorknob60: how you set up the dual, the nvidia config binaries?
[05:32] <doorknob60> yeah, kdesu nvidia-settings
[05:32] <codster> what was the command? i think i might of added an extra space
[05:32] <doorknob60> kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:32] <codster> okay thanks'
[05:32] <codster> there was an "s"
[05:32] <flaccid> cool
[05:32] <doorknob60> ah ok
[05:32] <codster> Could not run the specified command
[05:33] <doorknob60> ?
[05:33] <flaccid> maybe feisty only had kdesu which is symlink to kdesudo ?
[05:33] <codster> thats what it is giving me
[05:33] <flaccid> codster: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:33] <doorknob60> maybe, kdesu and kdesudo both work for me
[05:33] <codster> lol
[05:33] <codster> your right :D
[05:33] <doorknob60> in debian theyre different :O
[05:33] <flaccid> should of been kdesudo all along
[05:34] <codster> okay im in a Text editor (kate)
[05:34] <doorknob60> in debian kdesu needs root password kdesudo needs user password
[05:34] <codster> Every Fiesty Word i replace with Hardy?
[05:34] <flaccid> codster: do the replace, exit and save
[05:34] <doorknob60> yeah
[05:34] <doorknob60> no capital
[05:34] <codster> okay
[05:34] <codster> lol thats alot!
[05:34] <flaccid> doorknob60: has it been like that all along?
[05:35] <doorknob60> flaccid: i think so, debian by defaut uses root instead of sudo, so kdesu is for su (root), kdesudo is for sudo (like in ubuntu)
[05:35] <flaccid> doorknob60: i'll give the dual a shot on this 9600 soon, but i need hdmi heh
[05:35] <doorknob60> im not worried about dual or tv out on 9600
[05:35] <flaccid> yeah i use debian, but only as server
[05:35] <flaccid> yes but lots of people would be ? we have to use beta drivers atm
[05:36] <doorknob60> im worried if it would support my mobo because the ati integrated card seems to "block" 8 series cards from working
[05:36] <doorknob60> i heard 7800's work fine
[05:36] <flaccid> hmmm one can only try
[05:36] <flaccid> yeah they are good
[05:36] <codster> Now its done
[05:36] <codster> how do i save?
[05:36] <codster> just save?
[05:36] <doorknob60> yeah
[05:36] <flaccid> just close and say yes
[05:36] <codster> okay
[05:36] <codster> that was alot of hardy words lol
[05:36] <codster> now i will do the commands
[05:37] <codster> there we go
[05:37] <codster> getting hardy updates :D
[05:37] <doorknob60> good
[05:37] <codster> thanks man
[05:37] <codster> this is awesome and easy lol
[05:38] <flaccid> codster: cool, just run a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after to make sure you got it all. it could take some time however..
[05:38] <doorknob60> yeah
[05:38] <codster> yeah i know :( its 12;38pm and their is a exam tommarrow lol
[05:38] <doorknob60> dist-upgrade does everything upgrade does and more, no need for both
[05:38] <codster> shoot
[05:38] <codster> how can i stop it now?
[05:38] <doorknob60> why?
[05:38] <codster> its done anyways
[05:39] <flaccid> i thought dist-upgrade did kernel. it does both kernel and userland? i thought you could upgrade kernel but leave userlan
[05:39] <codster> okay i only ran "Update"
[05:39] <flaccid> must be wrong
[05:39] <doorknob60> dist-upgrade does everything
[05:39] <flaccid> oky doky
[05:39] <codster> okay
[05:39] <codster> thanks
[05:39] <doorknob60> i confirmed that eralier today by upgrading etch to lenny
[05:39] <flaccid> doorknob60: so if you do only upgrade, the kernel will be left with dist-upgrade right?
[05:39] <codster> wow
[05:39] <doorknob60> yeah
[05:39] <codster> 768 Upgraded
[05:39] <flaccid> cool
[05:39] <codster> 181newly installed
[05:40] <codster> lol this might take awhile
[05:40] <doorknob60> always ideal to do dist-upgrade to ovid dependency problems
[05:40]  * flaccid waits for kde-nightly to install
[05:40] <codster> 760Kbps :D
[05:40] <doorknob60> in these situations anyways
[05:40] <flaccid> ok thanks doorknob60
[05:40] <codster> thank you soo much, if i do go to sleep can i leave this running?
[05:40] <doorknob60> yeah, but after it downloads it likes to ask a ton of questions :P
[05:40] <codster> will their be some dramatic message poping up lol
[05:40] <codster> okay
[05:40] <codster> well thats not bad
[05:40] <flaccid> codster: yeah but you have come across some errors to fix, it may not be totally smooth..
[05:40] <codster> i have about an hour befor i go to school
[05:41] <codster> its okay
[05:41] <codster> more to learn thats all
[05:41] <doorknob60> its annoyign cuz i did it overnight and it only got like 5% after the dl part
[05:41] <codster> yeah lol
[05:41] <doorknob60> then i left for school it got to like 20% or something
[05:41] <doorknob60> :P
[05:41] <doorknob60> PITA
[05:41] <codster> ive done that, i fell asleep during the Kubuntu setup it stopped half way :(
[05:41] <doorknob60> lol
[05:41] <codster> I got Kubuntu on a 10Gb HDD
[05:41] <codster> lol so if things go bad i can reinstall
[05:41] <flaccid> ok reboot
[05:42] <codster> i used Kubuntu befor
[05:42] <doorknob60> i got debian and windows 98 sharing a 5 gig hd lmao
[05:42] <doorknob60> on my lappy
[05:42] <codster> Lol
[05:42] <codster> 5Gb IDE?
[05:42] <doorknob60> yeah
[05:42] <doorknob60> its an ancient laptop
[05:42] <codster> i pulled the 10Gb outta my Xbox
[05:42] <doorknob60> lol
[05:42] <doorknob60> i got 80 gig hd in desktop though
[05:42] <codster> i swapped it for a 40Gb which i use to stream movies and things over from my Windows Shared folders
[05:42] <doorknob60> its enough for now
[05:43] <codster> yeah
[05:43] <codster> well i gotta get to bed or else ill be waking up like a zombie and wont do to good on my exam lol
[05:43] <codster> thanks for the help guys
[05:43] <codster> really appreciated it bye
[05:43] <doorknob60> cya
[05:44] <doorknob60> rofl weird bug with konversation and wine+firefox+java
[05:44] <doorknob60> when i minimize konversation some of the window gets "stuck" on my java applet
[05:44] <doorknob60> in firefox in wine
[05:45] <doorknob60> looong story why i use wine lol
[05:47] <doorknob60> is everyone her participating in firefox doqnload day tomorow (today in some time zones)
[05:47] <doorknob60> now that codster left it got quiet...meh
[06:07] <snake> anyone has found a solution to the problem that has dolphin with html files ?
[06:08] <Jucato> what problem?
[06:09] <albuntu> Jucato i cant even point the mouse to html or xml files because i get this error
[06:11] <albuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20774/
[06:11] <Jucato> hm.. that seems to be a common error lately...
[06:11]  * Jucato investigates
[06:12] <flaccid> yeah thats a bug, people have fixed it by removing the text/html mimetype from the file
[06:12] <Jucato> listen to flaccid :)
[06:12] <albuntu> flaccid thanks. i saw that before
[06:12] <albuntu> but i thought some
[06:13] <albuntu> permanent solution was out
[06:13] <flaccid> im not sure if someone even submitted a bug, i don't use ipod so i didn't submit the but. but to me podcasts are xml so text/html is invalid. but im not sure the purpose of the desktop file
[06:15] <albuntu> anyways dolphin is a file manager so
[06:15] <albuntu> no file would do that indipendently by the type
[06:17] <Jucato> I think the problem is that D3lphin (Dolphin KDE 3 hack) tries to load file-specific service menus in the Information sidebar, which causes the error
[06:17] <Jucato> (of course Dolphin (KDE 4) doesn't do that...)
[06:18] <albuntu> yes maybe you are right
[06:18] <albuntu> but it seems strange to me that no permanent solution was found
[06:19] <flaccid> maybe because nobody followed it up
[06:19] <Jucato> the service menu is properly konqueror's, which doesn't load/detect the service menu unless a right-click has been made. unlike D3lphin
[06:19]  * Jucato thinks a permanent solution would be to remove D3lphin... :D
[06:20] <doorknob60> konqueror > d3lphin
[06:20] <Jucato> * > d3lphin :D
[06:21] <Jucato> er.. everything except Explorer...
[06:21] <doorknob60> pretty muc :P
[06:21] <doorknob60> yeah......maybe
[06:21] <albuntu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/199393/
[06:22] <Jucato> the funny thing about that bug is that the service menu for d3lphin is installed by the d3lphin packages.. whereas the one for konqueror is installed by amarok...
[06:22] <albuntu> lol
[07:17] <grendal_prime> sacramento sucks
[07:17] <grendal_prime> dont come here.
[07:18] <grendal_prime> its abazing how many people will will ask you if you want crack
[07:18] <flaccid> awesome
[07:35] <petgrill> hi there i want to change between languages layouts (English/Greek) with Alt+Shift but whatever i try it doesn't work can anyone help me?
[07:38] <deadsouls> anyone know of a tool i can use to crawl an my entire website so that the server caches the pages after they are rendered?
[07:59] <stdin> deadsouls: wget
[08:10] <yao_ziyuan> i wonder if kubuntu is firefox 3 ready now
[08:10] <yao_ziyuan> all betas of firefox 3 draw ugly tabs in kubuntu
[08:11] <minhaaj> ff3 is out, can you find it in adept yao ?
[08:12] <yao_ziyuan> why is http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?from=getfirefox still showing ff2?
[08:12] <yao_ziyuan> minhaaj: yes
[08:13] <minhaaj> yea
[08:13] <minhaaj> its still ff2
[08:13] <minhaaj> wheres ff3 ?
[08:13] <yao_ziyuan> official ff3 should be 20080617
[08:14] <yao_ziyuan> ubuntu's last ff package is 20080603
[08:18] <minhaaj> it should be in adept
[08:18] <minhaaj> i can't see it there
[08:37] <NickPresta> minhaaj, Firefox 3 is not out until June 17th, 10:00 PDT
[08:38] <minhaaj> whens that ?
[08:39] <minhaaj> tell me in GMT
[08:39] <minhaaj> i am +5
[08:40] <stdin> http://www.timeanddate.com/library/abbreviations/timezones/na/pdt.html
[08:40] <minhaaj> ok thx
[08:59] <minhaaj> i can't see webcam in kopete
[08:59] <minhaaj> any ideas ?
[09:00] <sandsmark> where are the 4.1 beta packages available?
[09:00] <minhaaj> adept manager ?
[09:01] <sandsmark> I tried to do what it said on kubuntu.org but I only got the 4.0.something packages
[09:01] <flaccid> !webcam | minhaaj
[09:01] <minhaaj> thanks let me read
[09:02] <minhaaj> no no
[09:02] <minhaaj> i dont have a cam
[09:02] <minhaaj> i can't view other's webcam
[09:03] <flaccid> fair enough, i guess you could submit a bug
[09:07] <JackWinter> i have a problem with kded taking lots of cpu?
[09:07] <JackWinter> oops, on kubuntu 8.04
[09:14] <JackWinter> oh, well am gonna reboot and see if it had anything to do with usb devices, but don't think i connected anything since i upped this system last.
[09:24] <JackWinter> nope, no usb devices connected but many application open including 15 konqueror instances.  there is a nspluginviewer process that take quite a lot of cpu, but nothing like kded.
[09:28] <arkygeek_> hi all
[09:28] <arkygeek_> in KDE4 I am having corrupt icons of running apps next to the K button
[09:31] <JackWinter> arkygeek_: no clue here, but maybe your gfx drivers or compiz ?
[09:31] <flaccid> !kde4 | arkygeek_
[09:32] <arkygeek_> flaccid: thx
[09:32] <arkygeek_> JackWinter: likely....
[09:32] <sjck> Hey, how can I use mouse buttons 4&5 as shortcut?
[09:33] <dwidmann> sjck: you might be able to work something like that out with xbindkeys ...
[09:34] <sjck> sorry, what you mean? I try to use settings->configure shortcuts but it seems that it dont know that buttons
[09:35] <dwidmann> Yeah, I know, you can't use them there ... but if you think it would be useful,k you could tie one of those button presses to a command (ie: anything you would use in a shell .... including dcop commands)
[09:36] <sjck> that sounds quiet complicated, anyways you know how to bind in konqueror back and forward?
[09:36] <dwidmann> I'm not sure, there might be another, easier way to do it ..... but I personally don't know it ... I'll google it and see if I can come up with anything
[09:37] <sjck> thank you :) I'm googling aswell
[09:38] <JackWinter>  so no known issues with kded in 8.04 except for USB devices causing it to race ?
[09:39] <dwidmann> sjck: you can tie the mouse button to a button combo with xbindkeys I think .... like, you could make button4 = ctrl+alt+shift+x if you wanted to (anything you want) .... slightly complicated though it may be, it *should* work
[09:40] <sjck> there should be a wiki article about extra mouse buttons
[09:40] <sjck> but I cant find
[09:43] <dwidmann> wait, I think I've found something interesting here that might do the trick
[09:43] <dwidmann> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=455656
[09:46] <sjck> dwidmann thank you!
[09:46] <dwidmann> you're welcome :)
[09:58] <JackWinter> just as a matter of interest, how can an app take 240% cpu according to top ?
[09:59] <dwidmann> JackWinter: multiple cores?
[09:59] <JackWinter> dwidmann: yes q6600
[09:59] <dwidmann> so, 240% out of 400% possible
[10:00] <JackWinter> dwidmann: aha, thanks didn't know that.
[10:01] <JackWinter> so kded taking 90% is no biggie, especially if it yields gracefully to other apps.  I think I managed to eliminate the app giving me problems with audio.  must have been skype being less than civalized with its resources...
[10:02] <dwidmann> hmm, my kded is using <1% cpu
[10:03] <JackWinter> now under load kded cpu usage has shrunk to 30% according to top
[10:03] <dwidmann> still abnormally high IMO
[10:04] <JackWinter> i can't remember ever seing it use that much either.  don't really want to kill all my apps though ;)
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> lo all
[10:22] <ubuntu_> hi
[10:22] <ubuntu_> i got one question:
[10:22] <ubuntu_> whats the name of the program with which i can create virtual machines?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: virtualbox
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> that was easy enough
[10:31] <chell> join #ubuntu
[10:46] <tony_S> moi
[11:06] <tekgeeklt> question what normally is used for resizing partitions and maybe deleting them
[11:06] <flaccid> !qtparted
[11:06] <flaccid> !format
[11:06] <tekgeeklt> ooh nice
[11:06] <tekgeeklt> t
[11:06] <tekgeeklt> thank you
[11:07] <tekgeeklt> I had windows and another linux OS installed on this laptop and then I installed kubuntu and I thought I had just the two and I find that all three are on here
[11:07] <tekgeeklt> windows, pclinuxos and kubuntu
[11:09] <tekgeeklt> I would like to say I am getting rid of windows but thats not the case .. I need to get rid of the pclos and then resize partitions if that will work
[11:56] <vic_> oops, sorry
[11:57] <engineer> no problem
[12:01] <fred__> anyone no how to let windows boxs share file from kubuntu
[12:03] <Riddell> fred__: install samba
[12:04] <fred__> its there and dslap as well can see box on xp machine cant access it Riddle
[12:05] <fred__> install autofs as well
[12:05] <fred__> but only learning the system no samba from the Amiga days
[12:06] <minhaaj> gosh, ff3 is out 11 PM my time
[12:06] <minhaaj> thats gross
[12:12] <noaXess> !backup
[12:13] <Riddell> fred__: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=samba+ubuntu
[12:13] <fred__> thanks have a nice day
[12:22] <mezz> hello
[12:36] <dido> hello
[12:39] <TheBeatles> Im using Ubuntu 8.04 and i want to Virtual box Kubuntu how much hard drive space is this gonna take
[12:39] <minhaaj> not much
[12:39] <minhaaj> i have it installed
[12:40] <TheBeatles> I noticed the .iso is 3.3g
[12:40] <minhaaj> sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[12:40] <TheBeatles> thats already dont
[12:40] <TheBeatles> done
[12:41] <minhaaj> cool, then use it
[12:41] <TheBeatles> is it only gonna take 3.3g of space?
[12:41] <minhaaj> no way
[12:42] <minhaaj> atleast not virtualbox
[12:42] <flaccid> !info virtualbox
[12:42] <ahmad> !info virtualbox-ose
[12:43] <minhaaj> good work ahmed
[12:43] <flaccid> whats the virtualiser that is most free / native to linux?
[12:44] <stefanos_> hi
[12:45] <stefanos_> anybody knows why xgl/fglrx/hardy doesn't work using the "xgl session method" (found on a feisty how-to)?
[12:45] <flaccid> what is xgl session method, can you show me?
[12:45] <ahmad> flaccid: it depends on your needs really but virtualbox should be fine for most purposes and from my experience it's much faster than anything else, including VMWare
[12:46] <stefanos_> flaccid: yea wait a minute
[12:46] <flaccid> ok ahmad cheers
[12:46] <minhaaj> VMware is awful
[12:47] <stefanos_> flaccid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[12:48] <stefanos_> ooops, says that for 7.10 the method is defferent. sorry, i didn't notice
[12:49] <flaccid> stefanos_: its auto now iirc
[12:49] <stefanos_> flaccid: auto? how?
[12:49] <flaccid> hmm maybe not
[12:49] <flaccid> actually iirc, you don't need xgl now..
[12:50] <stefanos_> i don't think compizconfig includes xgl anymore
[12:50] <TheBeatles> Hey can i dual-boot Kubuntu with Ubuntu simliar to Ubuntu with WIndowS?
[12:50] <stefanos_> flaccid: i need it cause it's sooooooo much faster than aiglx and has better xv video overlay quality and performance and it never crashed on my ati9600xt...
[12:50] <ahmad> TheBeatles: you can but you usually wouldn't need it.. just install both desktop environments
[12:52] <flaccid> i'll look into it. im on 9600 myself
[12:52] <stefanos_> flaccid: haven't you noticed it's slow on kde4? also this xv performance issue really gets on my nerves
[12:52] <flaccid> um its not too bad
[12:53] <flaccid> 8487 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1697.338 FPS w/ desktop effects on
[12:54] <stefanos_> i am talking about quality, not speed. when watching videos with a resolution any lower than your desktops it really is awful compared with xgl/no acceleration. which engine / output module are you using?
[12:56] <flaccid> i don't know what an engine or output module is sorry
[12:57] <giacomo> !it
[12:59] <stefanos_> flaccid: which program are you using to watch videos then?
[13:00] <flaccid> i use kaffeine or vlc
[13:01] <minhaaj> vlc rocks
[13:05] <flaccid> stefanos_: i can't find anyone getting it to work in hardy
[13:21] <solo> is anyone here??
[13:21] <solo> ive got a program thats froze... how do i force quit??
[13:22] <frogonwheels> solo:  ctrl+alt+esc
[13:22] <frogonwheels> then click the screen
[13:22] <frogonwheels> (carefull where you click , it kills the xserver connection with the client)
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> olla y'all
[13:22] <solo> well ill be damned
[13:22] <solo> :)
[13:22] <solo> ty
[13:22] <frogonwheels> np
[13:23] <solo> so if i click on the desktop?
[13:23] <frogonwheels> solo:  fyi -0 the program it runs is called xkill
[13:23] <frogonwheels> hmm.. not a good idea.
[13:23] <frogonwheels> probably just kill kdesktop though
[13:23] <solo> ty
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> sup?
[13:25] <the-erm> Why is it dell sells a linux laptop for $50 more than a windows laptop?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> support maybe
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> no idea
[13:26] <flaccid> is the notebook the exact same model?
[13:26] <the-erm> but you guys are my support.
[13:26] <the-erm> And you charge me $0
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> indeed :)

[13:27]  * flaccid waits for answer
[13:27] <the-erm> I'm so sick of linux getting the short end of the stick
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> the-erm: is it the same model..EXACTLY?
[13:27]  * ActionParsnip repeats for flaccid
[13:27] <the-erm> Well it's 1525N for the ubuntu laptop, and 1525 for the windows.
[13:28] <the-erm> but the windows laptop has more memory & afew other things.
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> so whats the difference in spec?
[13:28] <nyuu__> hi
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> thats why then
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> nothing to do with OS
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> more hardware == more cash
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> Dell has gotten a bad press for that befor.. BUT from what i read.. dell i  actually several different 'departments' and the linux dept. will oftenhave different deals then the other dept. that may have different deals then the business dept. and so forth
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> nyuu__: howdy
[13:28] <nyuu__> I am watchin HD anime videos with mplayer
[13:28] <nyuu__> fine ^^
[13:28] <nyuu__> but it plays slowly
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> nyuu__: got latest codecs?
[13:28] <the-erm> NO the point is the 1525 has more hardware, but costs less that 1525N.
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> I recall some large blogs/discussion on that topic the-erm  by some ex-dell employees
[13:29] <nyuu__> yea
[13:29] <nyuu__> the problem is...
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> the-erm: i see
[13:29] <flaccid> can i have links to both?
[13:29] <flaccid> on the same shop
[13:29] <the-erm> let me find it.
[13:29] <nyuu__> my laptop can't play with accuracy about 1920x1500 stuff
[13:29] <flaccid> needs to be same shop like what Dr_Willis said
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> nyuu__: tried another player?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> nyuu__: maybe theres a setting to frameskip a little
[13:30] <flaccid> i wouldnt expect a corporation to do anything or everything in morals
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> a large corporation often follows the 'the left hand dosent know what the right hand is doing'   sort of thing . :)
[13:32] <mm> Morning. Can you guys help me trace why my kubuntu hardy won't boot? It has been freezing at 'early unpacking initramfs' and I just have to reboot until it randomly decides to work - kind of a show stopper.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> mm: boot to live cd and run an fschk
[13:33] <the-erm> http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspnnb_1525?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&~oid=us~en~29~linux_3~~ (linux)
[13:33] <the-erm> http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/inspnnb_1525?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs (windows)
[13:34] <the-erm> The windows box is 2.0 GHZ and the linux box is 1.60 GHZ hmmm
[13:34] <eagles051387> hey all
[13:35] <the-erm> I guess there's a difference in hard drive size.
[13:35] <solo_awy> how do  i find a program ive installed from Synaptic? its lost lol
[13:35] <the-erm> 80 (windows) and 120(linux)
[13:36] <mm> solo: Are you looking for a GUI menu entry?
[13:36] <mm> or are you just trying to run it from konsole?
[13:36] <solo> gui
[13:36] <the-erm> solo: I don't know how it works in synaptic, but with adept_manager you can do a search, and then view the details, and it'll show you where the files are.
[13:36] <mm> I might try from konsole.. The prog might not make a GUI entry.
[13:37] <solo> it installed.... but i dont see a menu item
[13:37] <mm> It may not have made one.
[13:37] <solo> well shit
[13:37] <solo> ty
[13:37] <mm> I'm trying to remember the name of the program I found to fix that.. KMenuEdit or something..
[13:41] <flaccid> the-erm: probably comparing an apple to a banana here
[13:42] <Dr_Willis> synaptic can show installed files in the 'details' information
[13:42] <flaccid> the-erm: different processor. linux has dual core not celeron..
[13:42] <flaccid> and the smaller hard driver. really not comparable..
[13:44] <solo> found it /usr/lib/ktrack
[13:44] <solo> :)
[13:44] <solo> same way with Synaptic
[13:44] <solo> properties
[13:52] <jals> hi, how do i find the id of a storage device so i can put it in fstab?
[13:52] <Pici> jals: sudo blkid
[13:53] <jals> thanks
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> !uuid
[13:54] <nyuu_elfen> hi, can somebody help me for watching HD videos with mplayer
[13:54] <nyuu_elfen> my laptop can't show them with accuracy
[13:55] <Dr_Willis> accuracy ?
[13:56] <nyuu_elfen> I mean, it can't play fluency
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> My rather low end laptop - had a tough time playing some HD videos. due to the codec/size of the things.
[13:56] <nyuu_elfen> I know, but I have found a page
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> the gmplayer/mplayer error messages in the terminal, gave some tips to try.
[13:56] <joe_chat> google earth shows problem with open gl shaders kde4 kubuntu 8.04
[13:56] <nyuu_elfen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=629701&highlight=mplayer
[13:56] <nyuu_elfen> can you look at this page
[13:57] <joe_chat> any fixes please?
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> nyuu_elfen,  what about that page? its offering options to mplayer to try to get things going...
[13:59] <nyuu_elfen> yes
[13:59] <nyuu_elfen> but there is a problem...
[13:59] <joe_chat> Dr_Willis: would fglrxinfo help identify driver
[13:59] <nyuu_elfen> when I add -fs thing to the code
[13:59] <nyuu_elfen> it means full screen
[14:00] <nyuu_elfen> it begins to work slowly again
[14:00] <nyuu_elfen> ok anyway, maybe I have to solve it on my own... thanks a lot
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> nyuu_elfen,  so to summaruze its ok in a window but slow in fullscreen?
[14:01] <joe_chat> Dr_Willis: mesa much slower than proprietary ati/nvidia drivers
[14:02] <nyuu_elfen> yes
[14:02] <window> Hello, im neww to Kubuntu, every time i shut down my computer it resets all my Kubuntu settings to default
[14:02] <joe_chat> Dr_Willis: glxgears shows framerate
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> window,  err.. You did install to a hard drive? (yes i know a stupid question) you are not just running from a live cd?
[14:06] <window> Dr_Willis hahaha, yes
[14:06] <window> do i have to save each session?
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> window,  sessions just save what is running by default at login.
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> You can make docments and so forth in your home dir. and they stay there next time you reboot?
[14:07] <window> nope, when i reboot EVERYTHING is brand frickin new
[14:07] <mm> window: My guess would be permissions on your home dir.
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> somthing sounds weird there.
[14:08] <loloom> ummmm
[14:08] <window> hmmm
[14:08] <mm> What if you make a new user account? Does that help?
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> open up a terminal, and check the output of mount, and dmesg.
[14:08] <loloom> i'm not speaking english..
[14:08] <Dr_Willis>  if a hard drive is seen tobe failing. it can get remounted read-only at times.
[14:09] <window> !paste
[14:09] <window> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20856/
[14:09] <afeijo_> hi
[14:09] <afeijo_> what is the best shell mail prog?
[14:09] <afeijo_> with minimal interface :)
[14:10] <afeijo_> mailx are not friendly
[14:10] <window> Dr Willis, there, i pasted my output
[14:11] <loloom> quit
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> tye oen command is 'dmesg'  not 'dmesg.' :)
[14:11] <window> ah
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> this is on a normal desktop install?
[14:12] <window> huh?
[14:12] <Dr_Willis>    /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> ive never seen Mount points given like that befor.
[14:13] <window> one sec
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> but i dont use the lvm, or other fancy things. it DOES seem tobe read/write.
[14:13] <window> !paste
[14:13] <window> here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/20859/
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> window,  i would try adding a new user, and seeing if it works properly for them - if so it may be the permission of your /home/username that may be incorrect for some reason
[14:16] <KKK_gabriele> ciao!
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> ls -l /home -->  drwxr-xr-x 54 willis willis 4.0K 2008-06-17 08:39 willis/
[14:16] <window> How do I edit permissions?
[14:16] <Dr_Willis> chmod and chown commands
[14:16] <afeijo_> what is the string for hour and minute on date command? %Y%m%d-%H%n ?
[14:16] <afeijo_> the year month and day I already use
[14:18] <afeijo_> :(
[14:19] <window> ok Dr_Willis, i've been searching XD what file would I have to chmod?
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> window,  what permissiosn are on your users home dir?
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> ls -l /home
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> they 'should' look like the example i pasted.
[14:21] <window> um, it says this drwxr-xr-x 18 window window 4096 2008-06-17 09:04 window
[14:23] <afeijo_> no one know the minute key of date format string?
[14:24] <eagles051387> how do i change my nick
[14:24] <afeijo_> eagles051387: / nick newnick
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> window,  well that looks proper.. from the terminal try  making a few files in the home dir and see if you can make them.
[14:24] <KRF> eagles051387, /nick newnick
[14:25] <window> soooo, cp /home/ make?
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> window,  how did you install kubuntu? live cd? using wubi? alternative cd?
[14:25] <window> Wubi
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> window,  I would bet its a wubi issue then.   I normally suggest to people to NOT use wubi at all.
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> cd ~
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> touch 'this_is_a_file'
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> ls -al
[14:25] <Dr_Willis> should show the new file.
[14:25] <eagles051387> KRF i need to change my nick to my registered one
[14:26] <window> 0.o what?
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> eagles0513875,  then enter the proper nick to change to. :)
[14:26] <window> hahaha
[14:26] <ian__> hi all   i have a cope of Wine on my desktop, can someone help me to install it  ....
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> window,  just make a file in your home directory. in any way you want..  save with an editro.. use touch command.. and so on
[14:26] <Dr_Willis> window,  'ls > this_is_a_file.txt'   for example
[14:26] <afeijo_> nice that touch cmd
[14:26] <KRF> ian, apt-get install wine
[14:26] <KRF> nothing more
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> !wine | ian__
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> !wubi
[14:27] <ian__> KRF: will that conect to server or use my copy ?
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> ian__,  just double click on the downloaded package and hope it works.. one RARELY 'downloads' stuff to install under ubuntu/kubuntu. Its best to use the package manager
[14:52] <noaXess> strange.. habe installed the latest updatest.. and now.. my skype font ist very big.. not like my other kde apps..
[14:53] <noaXess> before this updates the skype app font are the same as the kde app fonts.. any idea?
[14:53] <noaXess> have set twice, that gtk apps should use the same font as kde apps
[14:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> check your font dpi in your system settings, make sure it's 96, and then restart skype
[14:54] <afeijo_> what good shell mail command with nice interface can I install?
[14:55] <jhutchins_wk> noaXess: Skype isn't a KDE app.
[14:55] <Daisuke_Laptop> ah, that's right
[14:56] <noaXess> jea i see.. but read my info above
[14:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> i thought it was qt, similar to opera
[14:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> no, you're going to have to adjust gtk font settings
[14:56] <Daisuke_Laptop> they do not, should not, and will not use the same fonts as their kde counterparts :)
[14:57] <noaXess> Daisuke_Laptop: have now set dpi to 96.. skype seams to be okay.. but all other app fonts are no really small
[14:57] <Daisuke_Laptop> then change it back
[14:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> see what i said about not realizing skype was a gtk app
[14:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> kde font settings aren't going to change anything with skype
[14:59] <noaXess> Daisuke_Laptop: but any idea, why it has worked before the latest updates?
[14:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> not really
[14:59] <afeijo_> hard to be ignored
[14:59] <rajkalyan> can someone give me a walkthrough on how to install skype on kubuntu gutsy?
[14:59] <afeijo_> skype.com !
[14:59] <noaXess> rajkalyan: donwload it and install it
[15:00] <rajkalyan> theres no comand line stuff?
[15:00] <noaXess> no.. is there any other way.. to change the font size in gtk/q apps?
[15:00] <noaXess> qt apps
[15:05] <noaXess> !qt
[15:05] <noaXess> !GUI
[15:05] <noaXess> how can i sse which qt version is allready installed?
[15:06] <rajkalyan> i downloaded the file
[15:06] <rajkalyan> it gave me a .deb file
[15:06] <rajkalyan> now what?
[15:06] <minhaaj> does anyone use task manager and event alerts online ?
[15:06] <minhaaj> what is a good program, or web-based service ?
[15:07] <noaXess> rajkalyan: just double click it
[15:07] <rajkalyan> which file?
[15:07] <rajkalyan> thers three
[15:07] <noaXess> rajkalyan: moment..
[15:07] <rajkalyan> it listed them in Ark
[15:08] <lxuser> heya i got some problems with cd-mounting. anyone in here who wants to help me?
[15:08] <rajkalyan> sure
[15:08] <rajkalyan> whats wrong?
[15:08] <noaXess> rajkalyan: http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu
[15:08] <noaXess> rajkalyan:  take this one
[15:09] <lxuser> when i try to mountdev/scd0
[15:09] <rajkalyan> i clicked it
[15:09] <rajkalyan> and it opened in a ark window
[15:10] <lxuser> it says block device /dev/scd0 is write protected, mounting read only
[15:10] <rajkalyan> noaXess, i clicked it and i opened up in ark
[15:10] <rajkalyan> now what?
[15:11] <noaXess> rajkalyan: than go to your konsole and type dpkg -i path/to/skype.deb
[15:11] <noaXess> sudo dpkg -i ....
[15:11] <rajkalyan> ok
[15:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> lxuser: yeah, they're read-only, what's the problem?
[15:15] <kkathman> morning (or good day) folks :)
[15:16] <Daisuke_Laptop> cds are read only, and should be mounted read only, i fail to see the problem
[15:16] <lxuser> so after i mountedt it read only it says wrong fs type
[15:16] <lxuser> so i added mount -t iso9660 to it
[15:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> no, you read the error wrong
[15:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> it says block device /dev/scd0 is write protected, mounting read only
[15:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> "mounting" - it already did it
[15:17] <lxuser> yh
[15:17] <lxuser> but
[15:17] <noaXess> Daisuke_Laptop: qt4-config is the solution
[15:17] <lxuser> after this it says wrong fs type
[15:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> and why aren't cds automounting in the first place, i'd be more concerned with that
[15:18] <rajkalyan> noaXess, that doesn't work if adept is running does it?
[15:19] <lxuser> my problem is after its mounted it says "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0..."
[15:19] <lxuser> and i dont know what to do now
[15:20] <richard_> how add programs for download
[15:20] <noaXess> rajkalyan: yes.. adept should be closed
[15:21] <rajkalyan> it just crashed
[15:21] <Faust-C> hwo do i figure out what ver of kubuntu im running ?
[15:21] <rajkalyan> but it got installe
[15:21] <rajkalyan> d
[15:21] <Faust-C> uname doesnt provide what i need ...
[15:22] <noaXess> rajkalyan: and skype work now?
[15:22] <rajkalyan> yes it does
[15:22] <rajkalyan> thank you
[15:24] <rajkalyan> how do i check if my microphone is connected and detected on kubuntu?
[15:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> rajkalyan: turn the volume way up, put your ear right next to the speaker, then blow into the mic as hard as you can - if you go deaf, it was connected and detected.
[15:25] <rajkalyan> ok
[15:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> i really gotta be more careful with my sarcasm
[15:26] <rajkalyan> ya think?
[15:26] <Daisuke_Laptop> rajkalyan: seriously though, open kmix and see what devices are listed
[15:27] <lxuser> it says i must specify the filesystem type
[15:27] <lxuser> i have no idea how to do that for a cd and which one
[15:28] <noaXess> !swf
[15:30] <noaXess> how can i view swf files?
[15:39] <richard_> hey how add programs en adept¿?
[15:42] <rajkalyan> how do i make kubuntu detect my mic?
[15:50] <Haza1> Afternoon folks. Is there a way to set my desktop NOT to share the taskbar over multiple desktops?
[15:54] <marcus__> I don't understand the question...
[15:54] <marcus__> You want different taskbars over different desktops, or something?
[15:56] <rajkalyan> do trendnet cards work with wpa-psk?
[16:10] <stefan-f> !ssh
[16:11] <Asad_> hello
[16:11] <Asad_> can any one tell me about disk partition thypes in kbuntu
[16:12] <marcus__> The default is usually EXT32, I believe...
[16:12] <marcus__> But kubuntu recognises most partition types and can mount them automatically.
[16:24] <ixenakis> bye
[16:24] <marcus__> Byes.
[16:32] <bobJR> does anyone know why the gui gproftpd for my ftp server will not even load
[16:33] <marcus__> We don't, because we don't know the file structure/settings etc. for your FTP server.
[16:34] <bobJR> i just put the ftp server on from adept manager
[16:34] <bobJR> im totally new at this
[16:34] <bobJR> lol
[16:35] <engineer> proftpd is quite easy to config
[16:35] <Haza1> Hey folks, i don't know if anyone answered my question (i had to log) but.. does anyone know how to stop the taskbar from being shared between multiple desktops?
[16:35] <engineer> even using the command line
[16:35] <bobJR> were do you go to config it
[16:35] <bobJR> is there a file
[16:35] <jals> how do i unmount something?
[16:35] <Haza1> As in.. when i change to another desktop by taskbar is empty
[16:35] <engineer> sudo nano /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf
[16:35] <jals> ah nm i remembered
[16:36] <bobJR> thanks
[16:36] <bobJR> brb
[16:36] <engineer> Haza1 show window only from the current desktop
[16:36] <dotzzz> hi i just installed kubuntu on my macbook.. was reading the guide on the part where adding swapfile in fstab.. i added, and typed mount -a.. how do i know if swapfile is mounted?
[16:36] <engineer> try sudo swapon
[16:37] <engineer> or swap on
[16:37] <engineer> not sure
[16:37] <dotzzz> i already typed swapon /swapfile
[16:37] <window> when i turn my puter off it resets everything to default, it deletes my files and everything, as if i JUST installed Kubunut, what's up wit dat?
[16:37] <Haza1> engineer: Cheers
[16:38] <dotzzz> how do i check if its mounted? i type df -h but it wasn't there
[16:38] <Devourer> how can I burn mp3s to a CD?
[16:38] <Devourer> k3b says I have to convert the files first but I can't get the files to show so I can convert them.
[16:38] <trappist> dotzzz: it's not exactly "mounted" - type free and see if you have swapspace
[16:40] <dotzzz> hmm i created a swapfile of 2gb.. i typed free and the Swap: 4095984
[16:40] <dotzzz> does it mean only 4mb?
[16:41] <engineer> what does top show
[16:42] <dotzzz> i reboot to see if fstab  /swapfile               swap                    swap    defaults        0 0 works
[16:42] <mkultras> wow i just printed a text file in kate it prints so nice, with a grey header and the default font looks like a typewritter its a very  nice editor
[16:43] <engineer> mkultras and it's free
[16:43] <mkultras> its very well done
[16:44] <dotzzz> ah rebooting works..thanks.. free -m shows 1999mb!
[16:44] <dotzzz> :D
[16:45] <engineer> i don't need swap
[16:45] <window> when i turn my puter off it resets everything to default, it deletes my files and everything, as if i JUST installed Kubunut, what's up wit dat?
[16:46] <bipolar> window: is the CD still in the drive?
[16:47] <window> bipolar, no, i am sure it's successfully booting my my harddrive
[16:47] <dotzzz> triple booting in macbook i can't create another partition for swap :(
[16:47] <bipolar> I have never seen that behavior
[16:47] <dotzzz> damn the right click on trackpad is a problem..and wireless doesn't work zz sigh
[16:52] <Flyer84> hi all, can somebody help me with manual partition in ubuntu?
[16:53] <engineer> mount -t type /dev/hdAN ./some_folder
[16:53] <engineer> A - disk letter
[16:53] <engineer> N partition number
[16:55] <santiago-ve> Flyer84: manual disk partitioning, or manual disk mounting to browse files?
[16:55] <Flyer84> I instaling kubuntu now, problem is that i can´t see swap and i can´t make swap
[16:56] <Flyer84> all i know but swap is not there
[16:56] <window> soooo....do you think everything is deleting and clearing once a session ends?
[16:56] <moope1> has anyone seen this thing with thunderbird ot displaying the body of emails? I just get a blank window!
[16:56] <minhaaj_> check in preferences if you have turned off images
[16:57] <window> when i turn off my PC do i hav to click my old session when i log back on?
[16:58] <engineer> no, kde sets the last session as the default from now on
[16:58] <window> butwhen i log in everything is set to default and my files are gone
[16:58] <moope1> minhaaj_: me?
[16:58] <minhaaj_> yes moope1
[16:58] <moope1> er. no I dont think I do
[16:59] <minhaaj_> it could be turned off by default
[16:59] <minhaaj_> you are using gmail ?
[16:59] <moope1> minhaaj_: nope IMAP
[16:59] <moope1> minhaaj_: where is the setting?
[17:00] <minhaaj_> setting for wath ?
[17:00] <minhaaj_> what ?
[17:00] <santiago-ve> Flyer84: when you're editting your partittions, you have to leave some free space for swap...
[17:00] <moope1> not displaying images
[17:01] <minhaaj_> Gmail is a default in Thunderbird. you can select it and it auto configures it
[17:01] <minhaaj_> oh go to edit > preferences
[17:02] <Flyer84> santiago: i make new partition table
[17:02] <moope1> minhaaj_: I dont see a setting for displaying imags
[17:02] <santiago-ve> Flyer84: you're wiping out your disk? if so.,.. great
[17:03] <minhaaj_> me neither.
[17:03] <santiago-ve> how big is your disk?
[17:03] <minhaaj_> do you get 'display images in this email' message with each email moope1 ?
[17:04] <Flyer84> santiago: 250GB
[17:04] <lkjasa> I get "authentication information cannot be recovered" when trying to change my password with passwd. any idea what this means?
[17:04] <Flyer84> i want 90GB for win xp
[17:05] <Flyer84> i know first must be a win part.
[17:05] <santiago-ve> Flyer84: you have XP installed already?
[17:05] <Flyer84> no
[17:05] <engineer> no it doesn't
[17:05] <Flyer84> clean hdd
[17:05] <engineer> win can be placed at the end
[17:05] <santiago-ve> Flyer84: install win first... will save you headaches~
[17:06] <Flyer84> and it help me see a swap
[17:06] <Flyer84> ?
[17:06] <santiago-ve> Flyer84: just when you start installing XP... remember to create a new parttion with the size you want... and leave the rest alone
[17:07] <engineer> /boot ext3 100mb, /swap <ram size> / reiserfs 15gb, /home lvm(reiserfs) the rest, xp 90gb
[17:07] <santiago-ve> Flyer84: when you're installing, just click "create" new partition, then when the pop up shows... select swap as filesystem
[17:11] <santiago-ve> Flyer84: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[17:12] <moope1> minhaaj_: I don't think it has anything to do with images
[17:14] <santiago-ve> Flyer84: u there?
[17:14] <Flyer84> santiago: yes, but when i select filesystem, swap is missing
[17:15] <twobitwork> how stable is kubuntu with kde 4?
[17:15] <NyaNoctiluca> wow a channel full of people :)
[17:16] <genii> twobitwork: Not as stable as kde3
[17:17] <twobitwork> genii: well... is it usable?
[17:17] <twobitwork> or still mostly in a development state?
[17:17] <NyaNoctiluca> I can not configure my scanner
[17:18] <genii> twobitwork: I have both here and get frustrated with 4, always going back to the other. The plasma/widget system in kde4 is not mature.
[17:19] <santiago-ve> Flyer84: swap cant be missing
[17:19] <santiago-ve> what filesystems you have in the combo box?... (that dont are: ext3, ext2, fat*, ntfs, reiserfs)
[17:22] <Flyer84> santiago: wait pls...
[17:28] <Flyer84> yes
[17:28] <Flyer84> work
[17:29] <Flyer84> ptoblem is in translation in czech lang.
[17:29] <Flyer84> bad name:)
[17:31] <santiago-ve> Flyer84: the translation is incorrect?
[17:32] <Flyer84> for me is everywhere swap, swap is swap
[17:32] <Flyer84> no what is ther written
[17:33] <santiago-ve> what does it says?
[17:33] <Flyer84> translation is correct but nological
[17:33] <santiago-ve> when the install is in spanish, its the same
[17:33] <santiago-ve> it says "Espacio de intercambio" something like "Interchange space"
[17:33] <Flyer84> in all manual is swap
[17:34] <Flyer84> yes we have same
[17:34] <Flyer84> in czech support is swap
[17:35] <Flyer84> but thx for your time
[17:50] <dilapan> hallo kann mir jemand mit truecrypt und dem mappen von containern helfen?
[17:52] <genii> !de
[17:53] <dilapan> thx
[17:53] <Israphel> I tried to understand you but I couldn't
[17:53] <dilapan> didnt know this is english
[17:54] <dilapan> well i try to first time map a container but tc doesnt know the --device-number option
[17:55] <vczcdfad> when i modprobe -r ndiswrapper , and modprobe -l | grep ndiswrap , i get /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[17:55] <vczcdfad> how to remove /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko ???
[17:56] <vczcdfad> same goes to /lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/net/ath_pci.ko .. no matter how i modprobe -r ath_pci , its still there
[17:56] <_CrashMaster_> grr.
[17:56] <_CrashMaster_> !aptifx | $me
[17:56] <_CrashMaster_> !aptfix | $me
[17:57] <Marphine> Greetings and Hallucinations all
[17:57] <window> how do i download firefox? apt-get install firefox-3?
[17:58] <window> anyone?
[17:58] <Marphine> Here I am to solicit technical help. What a shock!
[17:58] <genii> Yes. With sudo
[17:58] <vczcdfad> hello, how come when i modprobe -r ndiswrapper, modprobe -l | grep ndiswrap get lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko still???
[17:59] <santiago-ve> Marphine: well
[17:59] <genii> window: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0
[17:59] <Marphine> I am trying to get Dapper Drake Kubuntu to recognise my Netgear 802.11G WG311 PCI card.
[17:59] <santiago-ve> Marphine: i suggest you to change to hardy Heron...
[17:59] <santiago-ve> it is LTS too
[17:59] <santiago-ve> anywhat
[17:59] <santiago-ve> lemme google
[18:00] <Marphine> Said card is my only net access so I can only get online with my windows partition so I cannot use the adept installer to do anything
[18:00] <Marphine> Hardy requires more RAM than I have
[18:01] <Marphine> and I can't see putting money into this P3-966 to get it up to spec
[18:01] <santiago-ve> Marphine: how much ram do you have?=
[18:01] <Marphine> 256
[18:01] <rickest> Marphine: you might be better off installing ubuntu server and selecting a minimal window manager; i.e., icewm, xfce, etc.
[18:01] <Marphine> Hardy needs something close to 300... I can't remember the exact number
[18:02] <santiago-ve> Marphine: that's for graphical install
[18:02] <santiago-ve> you can use an alternate install
[18:02] <santiago-ve> which requires lot less of memory
[18:02] <santiago-ve> and runs in text mode
[18:02] <Marphine> yes but I'm not familiar enough with the process to trty the command line install
[18:03] <santiago-ve> Marphine: its really easy
[18:03] <santiago-ve> :p
[18:03] <Marphine> but the only issue I'm having now that's a problem is this wireless card. Unless that will resolve the driver issue it's not where I''m trying to go with this system at the moment
[18:03] <santiago-ve> ye, i undestand
[18:04] <dwidmann> me on a typical day .... 850MiB :O
[18:04] <Marphine> also I have no net access on Linux without getting this card going so I couldn't update after installing
[18:05] <Marphine> in fact I'm not using linux at all currently because everything I do on this machine involves the 'Net
[18:05] <Marphine> It looks like I need to install either Madwifi or ath5k
[18:05] <santiago-ve> Marphine: do a lspci (on a console)
[18:05] <santiago-ve> and use pastebin to pass the result
[18:05] <Marphine> okay what will that do?
[18:06] <jagguli> hi all ... im havin a problem ... alsa seems to have broken after upgrade ... any suggestions how to fix this ...
[18:06] <santiago-ve> give the info about the hardware you have
[18:06] <Marphine> I'm not able to do that without rebooting the computer
[18:06] <santiago-ve> :S
[18:06] <santiago-ve> well Marphine check these links out then: http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/Netgear
[18:06] <Marphine> anyway I know what piece of hardware is not working... I have the box for it sitting on my desk right now
[18:07] <santiago-ve> http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=732298&page=5
[18:07] <santiago-ve> http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=Netgear
[18:07] <Marphine> It is compatable with my chipset if I can install one of the beforementioned packages - Madwifi or (preferably) ath5k
[18:08] <Marphine> they work with the Atheros chipset the card has
[18:08] <santiago-ve> Marphine: give it a try :D
[18:09] <Marphine> but I am not familiar with installing software without the adapt manager that comes with the OS and in this case I need to download some archive and install from that rather then from repository
[18:11] <Marphine> hmmm okay it says that there are a couple on revisions so I'll have to doublecheck for compatability
[18:12] <santiago-ve> Marphine: you can ask here for assistance
[18:12] <santiago-ve> we're here for taht :)
[18:13] <jaggulli> oh ... the problem fixed itseld
[18:13] <Marphine> yeah I'm trying to verify the version of the card - apparently there is one that will not work with the madwifi driver and I need to make sure that's not the one I have before proceeding
[18:13] <minhaaj> firefox 3 is otu ?
[18:13] <minhaaj> i can't open up the website
[18:13] <minhaaj> sounds like load
[18:13] <Marphine> looking for my tiny mirror so I don't have to pull tghe card
[18:15] <Marphine> okay it's a revision 1 so I can proceed with not knowing how to proceed
[18:16] <llutz> Moin
[18:16] <Marphine> but ... uh ... I sort of still need some help
[18:17] <santiago-ve> Marphine: ill be arround
[18:18] <Marphine> I'm looking at those links you sent - there's a lot of info I need to look over now
[18:21] <vczcdfad> ndiswrapper version 1.45 loaded (smp=yes) <-- how come is 1.45? i installed ndiswrapper 1.
[18:21] <vczcdfad> ndiswrapper version 1.45 loaded (smp=yes) <-- how come is 1.45? i installed ndiswrapper 1.9
[18:22] <vczcdfad> can somebody help me with kubuntu in macbook? i using ndiswrapper
[18:23] <Hub441> hi!
[18:24] <Hub441> missing mimetype: application/x-x509-user-cert is missing
[18:25] <Hub441> cacert.org uses it and should have the same settings as x-x509-ca-cert
[18:25] <Hub441> anyone willing to file a bug? ;)
[18:36] <minhaaj> firefox is doing cheap commerical stunts
[18:36] <richard_> what is tungsten graphics
[18:36] <minhaaj> you still can't dl ff3
[18:36] <Israphel> there's a torrent with it
[18:36] <window> yeah but how do i do it when i CAN do it?
[18:37] <minhaaj> what torrent ?
[18:37] <llutz> just wait a few days, final-release is not that important
[18:37] <minhaaj> why not ?
[18:38] <minhaaj> RC3 was cool. faster and smarter
[18:38] <minhaaj> but crashed alot.
[18:38] <minhaaj> can't wait to see if ff3 final does the job
[18:38] <jack_spratt> make it sexier i say
[18:38] <Israphel> long life to konqueror :)
[18:39] <Israphel> this torrent http://www.mininova.org/det/1512301
[18:39] <Israphel> but it doesn't count for the record
[18:40] <window> no i want to download and install in Konsole
[18:40] <minhaaj> who cares about the record
[18:40] <Israphel> I do
[18:40] <minhaaj> how about sudo apt-get install firefox3
[18:40] <Israphel> ubuntu wil take his time to put firefox in the repo
[18:41] <Israphel> I'll just download the exe and erase it
[18:42] <alextvm_>  hello i successfully installed compiz and most of the effects seem to work but when i try to do the cube i'm inside of the cube is there a way that i can see the cube from the outside?
[18:42] <minhaaj> pathetic torrent
[18:42] <minhaaj> 2 seeders and 30 leechers
[18:42] <Israphel> it has them all
[18:42] <Israphel> just enough, 32 seeders soon
[18:43] <minhaaj> alextvm_:  hold ctrl+alt and move the screen from mouse
[18:43] <minhaaj> you could see the cube
[18:43] <Israphel> alextvm_: check in the compiz config, in cube desktop, there's an option to see the cube inside, disable it
[18:43] <minhaaj> not soon enough
[18:43] <Pici> !ot
[18:43] <minhaaj> my time is 7 hours to complete download
[18:44] <minhaaj> oh it has picked up the speed
[18:44] <Israphel> welcome to the third world
[18:44] <eldalion> hi guys, where can I find the usual /opt/kde files?
[18:45] <llutz> eldalion:  /usr/bin....
[18:45] <Asad> partition help!!!
[18:45] <eldalion> llutz: mean the artwork and stuff, not the binaries
[18:46] <llutz> minhaaj: took me 8 second to get ff3 :)
[18:46] <llutz> eldalion: it's in /usr/share...   all kde is integrated into /usr-hierarchy
[18:46] <aldo> ppp
[18:47] <minhaaj> llutz:  taking me 15 minutes already
[18:47] <minhaaj> can you file transfer llutz ?
[18:47] <eldalion> cheers :)
[18:47] <llutz> minhaaj: it#s the german version
[18:48] <minhaaj> aww
[18:48] <Asad> can anyone provide me partition help?
[18:48] <minhaaj> how about 8 secs to get english version and upload it ?
[18:49] <llutz> maybe, i had a direct link to the german one, that's why it was so fast
[18:49] <minhaaj> sure Asad
[18:49] <Asad> thnku
[18:49] <frybye> is there a way to easily replace the firefox3 rc3 that i have at the moment with the f-fox3-final that has been released today???
[18:49] <frybye> there is no menupoint "Update."
[18:50] <minhaaj> uninstall it
[18:50] <alextvm_> hello is there a way to pause "sudo apt-get install" so in case i have to stop the process it doesnt have to start all over again?
[18:50] <_CrashMaster_> alextvm_: Im pretty sure its an all or nothing command
[18:51] <frybye> - my ? put differently - when is the f-fox3-final likely to show up in the repositories...?
[18:52] <alextvm_> ok thanks
[18:53] <frybye> - or - who has replaced an earlier f-fox3rc with the new f-fox3-final and how did you go about it??
[18:54] <Jason2gs> I have Ubuntu has the only operating system on my laptop. I'm currently building a desktop computer, but I'm not sure if I should install Ubuntu, or because I kinda like the KDE look, Kubuntu. If I install Kubuntu, will I have any compatibility issues? I wouldn't think so, but I think it'd be best to check...
[18:56] <frybye> you can check your hardware against the compatibility list - eh - i think what works for ubuntu works for kubuntu or..?
[18:56] <_CrashMaster_> Jason2gs: As I understand it, Kubuntu and Ubuntu only differ in that Kubuntu used KDE and Unbuntu uses Gnome. And you can easily switch back and forth between the two.
[18:56] <window> ok how do i ad the Firefox to my repository? or how can i do it via Konsole?
[18:57] <frybye> the firefox in the repositories is still the rc3 as far as I am aware...???
[18:57] <window> darn
[18:57] <frybye> window: my feelings exactly..
[18:58] <frybye> there are alternative ways to install - but I don't know enough to say how or if it would replace the existing one if you have it..
[18:58] <frybye> generally if one just installs something -by hand- it tends to run parallel to other versions - depending perhaps on where you put it - but I am too much of a newbie to say much about this...l
[18:58] <_CrashMaster_> frybye: window: www.Firefox.com You can download the latest and the install instructions provided are pretty straight forward.
[18:58] <TimS> RC3 is the same as 3 final, so don't worry about updating if you have RC3
[18:59] <frybye> _CrashMaster_: but that will install it alongside the existing rc3 or..?
[18:59] <TimS> frybye: Do you have RC3 atm?
[18:59] <frybye> TimS: is that a fact..
[18:59] <TimS> Yes
[18:59] <frybye> yes... i hvae rc3...
[18:59] <_CrashMaster_> frybye: When I did it, it replaced RC3
[19:00] <_CrashMaster_> But as TimS said, they are the same thing, when you boil it down.
[19:00] <frybye> as far as i k - the rc3 only had a change on rc2 relating to a mac os problem.. but I was not aware that the rc3 was the same as final...?
[19:00] <TimS> frybye: If you want to help the world record, download it off their servers.
[19:00] <TimS> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.0/linux-i686/en-US/
[19:01] <TimS> According to the guys in the mozilla irc(irc.mozilla.org) its the same
[19:01] <frybye> I hve to be a bit carefull cos I am on an amd64 system and want the flash etc to still work afterwards.. being a newbie I woiuld have trouble setting it up by hand..
[19:01] <TimS> Oh I see
[19:01] <frybye> TimS: ok i had better stick with what I have for just now...
[19:01] <TimS> That was the 32 bit link
[19:02] <TimS> frybye: Yeah, it will be in the reppos before too long, although updates in the reppos wont count towards the record
[19:02] <frybye> right and i am in germany anyhows.. the us english might not be right I guess..
[19:02] <frybye> i am going to hang on I guess.. would like to help with the record but...
[19:03] <frybye> dont want a screwed system... no flash etc...
[19:03] <TimS> No, i was just guessing :P
[19:03] <TimS> frybye: Do what I did, download it then just delete it :P
[19:03] <frybye> TimS:  sneaky thing you hehehehe
[19:03] <|Toad> how do i tell what version i'm using?  when i go to about firefox, it just says 3.0, but i know it's rc something
[19:04] <frybye> |Toad: same here...
[19:04] <frybye> if you go to the "version info" page it is all about rc3 - or was yesterday.. not not accessable...
[19:04] <frybye> e e e now not accessable...
[19:05] <_CrashMaster_> from a terminal, type "firefox -v" to get your exact version
[19:05] <TimS> _CrashMaster_: That gives me FF3
[19:05] <TimS> I know I am on RC3
[19:05] <|Toad> yeah
[19:05] <_CrashMaster_> odd
[19:06] <|Toad> adept says that i have rc1 installed....
[19:06] <|Toad> but it never gve me an option to get anyhting higher
[19:06] <TimS> |Toad: how can you tell in adept?
[19:06] <|Toad> it says rc1 in the description
[19:06] <frybye> I got rc1 via adept in kde3 a bit back - but in kde4 if I am not mistaken it got me the rc3 a day or two ago...
[19:07] <TimS> Odd, not for me
[19:07] <frybye> ah - what the heck - apart from the d-load record - the rc3 is pretty good - stable - fast as lightning etc...
[19:07] <_CrashMaster_> frybye: try #firefox maybe they can get you some better information.
[19:08] <frybye> Crash - ok but it really is not that big a deal...
[19:15] <kicsi> re
[19:16] <window> well....FF3 out yet? (repository)
[19:16] <minhaaj> nope
[19:16] <window> sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[19:19] <rajkalyan> i can't get to the setup window for configuring the screensavers
[19:20] <rajkalyan> it logs me off and my auto-logi won't kick i
[19:20] <rajkalyan> login
[19:20] <flotisttu>  my keyboard types every letter when i keep it pressed for 3 secs. and it types the letter tww times. this change occured when i was using a wine application. 'mirc' . it may be a coinsidence but anyways. how can i resolve it. i cant type anything?
[19:21] <rajkalyan> kubuntu right?
[19:21] <flotisttu> ya
[19:21] <rajkalyan> go to system settings from the K menu
[19:22] <rajkalyan> there should be something about a keyboard
[19:22] <flotisttu> rajkalyan i have changed it. and made it to defualt also. but no use
[19:22] <rajkalyan> flotisttu: click keyboard and mouse
[19:22] <flotisttu> ya i have done it
[19:23] <rajkalyan> change the keyboard repeat option
[19:23] <flotisttu> i have
[19:23] <flotisttu> no use
[19:23] <rajkalyan> make the delay less
[19:23] <rajkalyan> make it really small
[19:23] <flotisttu> k
[19:23] <flotisttu> then?
[19:23] <rajkalyan> try typing
[19:23] <rajkalyan> does it work
[19:23] <flotisttu> i have to pres a key for 3 secs initially to type
[19:23] <rajkalyan> did you shorten the delay
[19:24] <flotisttu> i have to reboot. iam on windows
[19:24] <rajkalyan> make the delay less than a second
[19:24] <rajkalyan> ok
[19:24] <flotisttu> but even i shorton delay and it will not type the key 2 times . i will still take 3 secs to type a key initialy
[19:24] <rajkalyan> can someone tell me why kubuntu logs me off when i click setup on screensavers?
[19:25] <flotisttu> but even i shorton delay and it will not type the key 2 times . i will still take 3 secs to type a key initialy.   any solution for that?
[19:25] <rajkalyan> try adjusting the rate?
[19:25] <rajkalyan> it should be below delay
[19:25] <flotisttu> k
[19:26] <rajkalyan> type "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog."
[19:26] <rajkalyan> tell me if its really slow/hard
[19:27] <rajkalyan> is it working?
[19:28] <rajkalyan> can someone help me with the screensavers?
[19:29] <dwidmann> rajkalyan: what's wrong with them?
[19:29] <rajkalyan> i keep getting logged out if i try to click the setup bottun
[19:29] <rajkalyan> button
[19:29] <dwidmann> Umm, sounds like opengl is crashing X
[19:29] <rajkalyan> what should i do?
[19:30] <dwidmann> Probably a video driver issue
[19:30] <rajkalyan> what do i do?!?!
[19:30] <dwidmann> Probably switch video drivers, what card do you have?
[19:30] <rajkalyan> this is a laptop
[19:30] <rajkalyan> tell me , am i screwed?
[19:31] <rajkalyan> let me find my video card
[19:31] <dwidmann> There's still going to be some sort of video chip in there .... we just need to find out what, pull up a shell and type "lspci" and see what it is
[19:32] <rajkalyan> it might be neomagic
[19:32] <rajkalyan> vga compatiable controller?
[19:32] <rajkalyan> is that the video card?
[19:32] <dwidmann> that would be it then
[19:32] <rajkalyan> then its neomagic
[19:32] <rajkalyan> so what do i do?
[19:33] <dwidmann> not sure,k one minute please (googling)
[19:33]  * rajkalyan is away: hungry
[19:33]  * rajkalyan is back.
[19:35] <rajkalyan> !
[19:35] <Nece228> i have question
[19:35] <rajkalyan> what is?
[19:35] <Nece228> when i set color depth to 16 bit in kubuntu
[19:36] <Nece228> graphics looks way much better than in windows with 16 bit colors
[19:36] <rajkalyan> u dual-boot?
[19:36] <Nece228> yeaj
[19:36] <dwidmann> Nece228: where's the question, that was a statment
[19:36] <dwidmann> *statement
[19:36] <rajkalyan> he wants to know why?
[19:37] <rajkalyan> and how to fix it
[19:37] <rajkalyan> and did you find anything?
[19:37] <dwidmann> rajkalyan: not sure about this one, not having much luck googling, I would post on ubuntuforums and see if you could get any answers there
[19:37] <Nece228> i dont want fix it, im just wondering
[19:37] <rajkalyan> because windows sucks?
[19:37] <rajkalyan> i hate bsods
[19:37] <rajkalyan> bloody things those are
[19:38] <Nece228> why in linux 16 bit colors looks way much better than in windows xp with 16 bit colors?
[19:38] <rajkalyan> the settings might be different
[19:38] <minhaaj> ff3 is awesome
[19:38] <minhaaj> smart and fast
[19:38] <minhaaj> lovin it
[19:38] <rajkalyan> dwidmann: should i check #ubuntuforums?
[19:38] <Nece228> minhaaj: hatin it
[19:38] <monk3y> guys, How to remove compiz fusion and revert back to original?
[19:38] <dwidmann> Nece228: I've no idea ..... but just be grateful :)
[19:38] <minhaaj> Nece228: learn to use it
[19:38] <dwidmann> rajkalyan: you could try, but ymmv
[19:39] <rajkalyan> ymmv?
[19:39] <rajkalyan> whats that?
[19:39] <Nece228> gnome kde xfce etc starts with 24 and 16 bit color debth
[19:39] <dwidmann> your milage may vary
[19:39] <Nece228> is there any other color depths which all these guis support?
[19:40] <dwidmann> Nece228: maybe 8?
[19:40] <rajkalyan> ic
[19:40] <rajkalyan> oic
[19:40] <Nece228> no it dont starts with 8 bit
[19:41] <dwidmann> 8-bit (256 color) displays used to be common :P
[19:43] <bibstha> firefox3 is out
[19:44] <bibstha> it will be in which repository?
[19:44] <Nece228> i always hated firefox
[19:44] <minhaaj> none at the moment bibstha
[19:44] <minhaaj> you have to download it
[19:44] <bibstha> right now only firefox3-b5
[19:44] <Nece228> but i dont know about ff 3
[19:44] <minhaaj> i have downloaded firefox 3
[19:44] <bibstha> it will be in updates repo right?
[19:44] <minhaaj> do you want it bibstha ?
[19:44] <bibstha> minhaaj: me too
[19:44] <minhaaj> not at the moment bibstha
[19:44] <minhaaj> ubuntu would take its time
[19:44] <bibstha> aah
[19:44] <bibstha> cool
[19:45] <minhaaj> what do you say about ff3 bibstha
[19:45] <bibstha> but atleast to set the record will ahve to download fromt the official website
[19:45] <minhaaj> its loading websites on my connection like flash
[19:45] <minhaaj> yea
[19:45] <bibstha> its checking my delicious links :) not loaded yet
[19:45] <minhaaj> hehe
[19:45] <bibstha> minhaaj: really? wow
[19:46] <minhaaj> yep
[19:46] <user1_> i cant start x. msg appears /home/user/DCOPserver_computer__0   .. cant make
[19:46] <minhaaj> people who hate firefox dont know how to use it.
[19:46] <user1_> some..............
[19:46] <minhaaj> atleast thats what i have come to know
[19:46] <user1_> something.......
[19:47] <user1_> any thlpe
[19:47] <user1_> help
[19:48] <bibstha> user1_:
[19:48] <bibstha> did u install on old home directory?
[19:49] <user1_> bibstha:  what do you mean. install
[19:49] <bibstha> humm
[19:49] <bibstha> try making a new .kde folder backup old kde folder to .kde-old or sth?
[19:49] <coreymon77> guys, can you give me a hand here
[19:49] <coreymon77> i had to do a kubuntu fresh install
[19:50] <user1_> bibstha:  no i didnt do it. do you want me to
[19:50] <user1_> bibstha:  i actually startes    startx by root
[19:50] <coreymon77> i get the license agreement thing in konsole, and it wont let me press enter on okaty
[19:50] <coreymon77> ive tried
[19:51] <Nece228> which is faster gtk2 or qt3.3?
[19:51] <bibstha> coreymon77: are u sure u dont have a windows cd? :)
[19:51] <coreymon77> im using konv
[19:51] <coreymon77> and look at my cloak, im no newbite
[19:51] <user1_> some..............
[19:51] <bibstha> user1_: ok
[19:52] <bibstha> user1_: so did u try making  a new .kde folder?
[19:52] <monk3y>  guys, How to remove compiz fusion and revert back to original?
[19:53] <coreymon77> ill just do it through adept, that should fix the problem
[19:53] <bibstha> monk3y: KMenu > Settings > Desktop Effects
[19:53] <faisal> hi there
[19:54] <ubunturos> !hi | faisal,
[19:55] <monk3y> thanks bibstha!
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> I'm running compiz-fusion, what is the name of the app to change settings please?
[19:57] <rickest> ActionParsnip: ccsm
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> cheers
[20:00] <engineer> what's the shell script channel?
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> which setting allows "throwable" windows
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> engineer: ask away :D
[20:00] <engineer> i need a script for downloading a file from the need infinitly and then remove it afterwards
[20:01] <engineer> i need a script for downloading a file from the internet infinitly and then remove it afterwards
[20:01] <engineer> is it hard?
[20:01] <minhaaj> shouldnt be
[20:01] <Nece228> \chh
[20:01] <minhaaj> i think bash scripting can does that
[20:01] <engineer> i'm sure it can, i just don't know how to do it
[20:02] <mrksbrd> !firefox
[20:02] <minhaaj> mrksbrd:  looking for ff3 ?
[20:02] <mrksbrd> yea
[20:02] <mrksbrd> worth it?
[20:02] <minhaaj> yep
[20:02] <minhaaj> awesome i must say
[20:03] <mrksbrd> can it be gotten thru console yet?
[20:03] <minhaaj> not yet. i dont know
[20:03] <minhaaj> want me to send you the tar.bz2 ?
[20:03] <minhaaj> :)
[20:03] <mrksbrd> their site is getting crushed
[20:03] <engineer> DOS attacks
[20:03] <minhaaj> thats why i offered that
[20:03] <minhaaj> :)
[20:03] <rajkalyan> i didn't get squat
[20:03] <engineer> there are mirrors around
[20:03] <mrksbrd> i'm not good with tar decompressing
[20:03] <engineer> but they don't count for the record
[20:04] <minhaaj> you dont have to decompress
[20:04] <minhaaj> just unzip with Ark
[20:04] <minhaaj> and run it
[20:04] <minhaaj> :)
[20:04] <mrksbrd> ok
[20:05] <mrksbrd> let me start my fios....right now i'm on an aircard
[20:05] <mrksbrd> brb in a sec
[20:05] <engineer> ActionParsnip do you know how to do it?
[20:06] <_CrashMaster_> He willingly used an Aircard over FiOS
[20:06] <_CrashMaster_> ?
[20:07] <mrksbrd> k i'm back
[20:07] <minhaaj> wb
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> engineer: how do you mean infinitely?
[20:07] <engineer> forever
[20:07] <engineer> wget
[20:07] <engineer> then rm
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> how can a file be infinite
[20:07] <minhaaj> downloadhelper is not compatible with ff3 ?
[20:07] <minhaaj> wtf
[20:07] <czarny> hello
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> and how will you extract it if the file is never completed
[20:08] <engineer> ActionParsnip i just want to download the file and then remove it, then download it again then remove it
[20:08] <mrksbrd> lol
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> engineer: ahhh, that makes more sense
[20:08] <czarny> Jest tu jakiś polak?
[20:08] <engineer> the file is finit
[20:08] <engineer> the file is finite
[20:08] <Rioting_pacifist> is it possible to get shortcuts like ctrl+esc to work in fullscreen apps
[20:08] <engineer> !pl
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> yeah, you made it sound liek an infinite sound
[20:08] <engineer> infinite loop
[20:09] <engineer> in java its for(;;);
[20:09] <jabba> while 1
[20:09] <lat_> I have just connected a new Epson Stylus C90 printer. The printer shows up a choice when I need to print. However, the document does not print. What is wrong?
[20:09] <mrksbrd> minhajj....u gonna dccsend it???
[20:09] <minhaaj> if you want
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> engineer: is it a tar.gz file?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> engineer: im trying to add as much as i can
[20:10] <window> any idea how to get FF3 through console? all other downloads are PHAIL
[20:10] <engineer> yes
[20:10] <mrksbrd> make sure you have your printer selected, most of the time it defaults to cups/pdf
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> window: wget
[20:10] <engineer> ActionParsnip an url with a tar.gz file
[20:10] <engineer> window http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=lin&lang=en-US
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> engineer: ok cool
[20:10] <engineer> window http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
[20:10] <mrksbrd> sure...if u don't mind
[20:10] <window> Actioin, how's that? wget install firefox-3?
[20:10] <window> i said DOWNLOADS phail XD
[20:10] <minhaaj> sure hang on
[20:11] <lat_> mrksbrd, my printer is selected.
[20:11] <engineer> wget http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
[20:11] <Rioting_pacifist> window: apt-get install firefox gets you firefox3RC3 which is firefox3
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> engineer: will the file want to be extracted to the same place each time, or is it to be extracted so a history of versions can be kept
[20:11] <minhaaj> no Rioting_pacifist
[20:11] <minhaaj> ff3rc3 is different
[20:12] <minhaaj> there is a ff3 final version
[20:12] <minhaaj> that i am  using
[20:12] <engineer> ActionParsnip no, jsut downloaded
[20:12] <minhaaj> mrksbrd: accept the file
[20:12] <_CrashMaster_> Oy, someone add it to the topic already. "FF3-RC3 is the same as FF3-Final."
 Everything I'm hearing from #firefox indicates that RC3 and Final are the same thing, albeit with different version numbers.
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> engineer: that downloads the exe dude
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> so it wont extract
[20:14] <Pici> _CrashMaster_: Could be thats the case, I'm just going off of what launchpad is telling me
[20:14] <engineer> i know, some applications i run from my /home
[20:14] <engineer> ActionParsnip i don't want it to be extracted
[20:14] <window> hm, when i use apt-get it says "timestamp too far in the future"
[20:14] <minhaaj> _CrashMaster_: even if it is, its awesome
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> engineer: ahh, so you want it downloading then deleting, then downloading
[20:15] <engineer> just put something like
[20:15] <Rioting_pacifist> _CrashMaster_: that because unless mozilla have done something wierd AND stupid the final release candidate is the final release!
[20:15] <minhaaj> beats every browser out on earth
[20:15] <engineer> ActionParsnip EXACTLY!
[20:15] <ActionParsnip> gotcha
[20:15] <engineer> not wasting cpu cycles extracting
[20:16] <rav> hello. i just installed firefox 3, and it's very very slow. Takes 2-3 minutes for the window to pop up
[20:16] <Rioting_pacifist> rav did you do it from no repos?
[20:16] <minhaaj> fix your pc rav
[20:17] <Rioting_pacifist> minhaaj:  quite your trolling
[20:17] <mrksbrd> minhaaj....i got it from ff website, once i extract the tar file what do i do???
[20:17] <minhaaj> stfu Rioting_pacifist
[20:17] <minhaaj> run firefox mrksbrd
[20:17] <minhaaj> its inside the extracted folder
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> !paste
[20:18] <Rioting_pacifist> mrksbrd: do you want to install it properly or just do things the minhaaj. way?
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> engineer: #!/bin/bash
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> while true; do
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> 	wget http://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-3.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> 	rm *.exe
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> done
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> sorry guys
[20:18] <hotpocket> i need a video converter that can convert .mod and/or .moi files, are there any good converters?
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> http://paste.ubuntu.com/20951/
[20:18] <engineer> !pastebin | ActionParsnip
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> stupid ctrl+v failed
[20:18] <Rioting_pacifist> ActionParsnip: they only count unique IP hits so no point
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> engineer: I know dude, im in here daily
[20:18] <rav> i installed it from the repositories
[20:18] <ActionParsnip> Rioting_pacifist: its what he wants
[20:18] <engineer> thanks
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Rioting_pacifist: give it a go, ive not tested it but it makes sense
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> Rioting_pacifist: that was for enginer
[20:19] <Rioting_pacifist> rav you need to install gnome-firefox support, and i had problems if i had a couple of packages installed gimme a sec to get the names
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> engineer: give it a go, ive not tested it but it makes sense. put it in a folder so it doesnt remove any other files
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> engineer: rm *.exe is quite agressive but in its own folder it will be file
[20:20] <engineer> i'll put it inside it's own folder
[20:20] <mrksbrd> ActionParsnip: i did what you said, still don't see the icon anywhere
[20:20] <engineer> seems easier than what i thought
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> mrksbrd: ?
[20:21] <engineer> firefox is in the reps
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> engineer: are there 64bit java and 64bit flash plugings?
[20:21] <mrksbrd> i did the wget.....then rm *.exe
[20:21] <engineer> ActionParsnip there's a java plugin in the works
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> mrksbrd: thats for engineer
[20:21] <Rioting_pacifist> rav if with gnome-firefox support installed (it may not be called that but its something like that)  its still slow try removing the pacakge libbonoboui2-0 (it may remove some actual programs with it)
[20:21] <minhaaj> wget worked for me
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> engineer: it it icetea?
[20:22] <engineer> no
[20:22] <engineer> from sun
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> yeah?
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> nice
[20:22] <engineer> i think it will come out before java 7
[20:22] <ActionParsnip> come out? I thought you sait it was out
[20:23] <engineer> i said it was in the works
[20:23] <rav> Rioting_pacifist: thanks
[20:23] <engineer> (20:21:48) (engineer) ActionParsnip there's a java plugin in the works
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> ok cool, ill stick with ff2 32bit
[20:23] <Haza1> Evening folks!!
[20:23] <Haza1> And engineer ;)
[20:23] <Rioting_pacifist> rav what fixed it?
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> lo Haza
[20:23] <mrksbrd> ok....Rioting_pacifist:what is your way to install ff3?
[20:23] <Haza1> (he is always very helpful)
[20:24] <engineer> i have to use firefox 32bit in my 64bit arch
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> works fine for me
[20:24] <Haza1> Anyway. im looking for decent video capture software. What do you lfolks recommend?
[20:24] <engineer> i have to go
[20:24] <minhaaj> wget isnt working
[20:24] <minhaaj> :s
[20:25] <Rioting_pacifist> well id go though repos because rc3 is ff3 but if your going to install the tar move the files to /opt/firefox then "ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox" then "rm -r /opt/firefox/plugins" then "ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ /opt/firefox/plugins/"
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: for desktop?
[20:25] <mrksbrd> Rioting_pacifist:what is your way to install ff3?....I would like to do it the easiest way possible
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: like recording your desktop
[20:25] <Haza1> ActionParsnip: indeed matey
[20:25] <rav> Rioting_pacifist: i installed gnome-support, and nothing
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop
[20:26] <Rioting_pacifist> rav try removing  libbonoboui2-0
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: ;)
[20:26] <Haza1> ActionParsnip: That easy eh~/
[20:26] <Rioting_pacifist> mrksbrd: well id go though repos because rc3 is ff3 but if your going to install the tar move the files to /opt/firefox then "ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox" then "rm -r /opt/firefox/plugins" then "ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ /opt/firefox/plugins/"
[20:26] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: always the case in linux my friend
[20:27] <Haza1> ActionParsnip: Hahahah, im starting to learn that as each day passes :)
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: why make it complicated
[20:27] <mrksbrd> what is the repoo command? sudo apt-get install ff3rc3?
[20:27] <Rioting_pacifist> sudo apt-get install firefox
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> mrksbrd: try tab completing ;)
[20:28] <user1_> i cant start kde and x. how to reconfigure or reinstall all that kde or x?
[20:28] <Rioting_pacifist> firefox will install ffrc3 which will be renamed in a few days, unless minhaaj. actually has a clue and mozilla have redefined release cycles for firefox3, but i find both of those unlikely
[20:28] <minhaaj> dont pay attention to Rioting_pacifist
[20:28] <minhaaj> he is some weird IE8 freak
[20:29] <minhaaj> get ff3. its in adept manager now
[20:29] <user1_> i cant start kde and x. how to reconfigure or reinstall all that kde or x?
[20:29] <Haza1> ActionParsnip: I have another question
[20:29] <Haza1> If you have the time
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: sup
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: always ask, someone will answer
[20:29] <rav> Rioting_pacifist: that worked, removing libbonoboui2-0 and all libs connected to it fixed it.  Two secs. i will check it out
[20:31] <mrksbrd> sometimes i get massive brainfarts
[20:31] <mrksbrd> lol
[20:32] <minhaaj> lol
[20:32] <Haza1> ActionParsnip: Umm. sorry to sound like a noob (although i am) but... how would i add that "recordmydesktop" app?
[20:33] <user1_> can anyone see me
[20:33] <user1_> ?
[20:33] <Rioting_pacifist> Haza1: there used to be a program called debian-menu that gave all apps, i think it MAY now be called menu-xdg but im not 100%
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: click on the part of the tree you want. file -> new item
[20:33] <Rioting_pacifist> user1_: no :p
[20:33] <Rioting_pacifist> !apropos
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> user1_: sup man
[20:33] <user1_> ActionParsnip:  hi
[20:34] <user1_> ActionParsnip: i cant start kde and x. how to reconfigure or reinstall all that kde or x?
[20:34] <user1_> Rioting_pacifist:  go to a eye speciallist
[20:34] <user1_> an*
[20:34] <user1_> :)
[20:34] <mrksbrd> ok got an error already....box poped up asking me to disable firefox 3.0......any ideas?????
[20:34] <Rioting_pacifist> user1_: what happens when you start x? e.g login as command line and type startx
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> user1_: sudo apt-get --reinstall kde-desktop (use some tab autocomplete here)
[20:35] <rav> user_1: could you ever start kde and X? Mine broke when I misconfigured the nvidia driver
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> user1_: Rioting_pacifist is asking good stuff
[20:35] <user1_> Rioting_pacifist:  jjust an X . nothign else
[20:36] <user1_> Rioting_pacifist:  will that help?
[20:36] <Rioting_pacifist> user1_: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[20:36] <user1_> Rioting_pacifist:  how can i copy that line?
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> user1_: pen and paper, or use your mind
[20:36] <Rioting_pacifist> actually if you boot into recovery mode a menu should give you the option of fixing x
[20:36] <Haza1> ActionParsnip: Okay mate. ive done that. now i have a text box.... am i looking for the .sh file here?
[20:36] <mrksbrd> hold down your left mouse button & highlight it
[20:37] <Haza1> And if i am... what is it? or where is it
[20:37] <user1_> k..........
[20:37] <Mr_Cheeto> how do i search for repositories?
[20:38] <Rioting_pacifist> user1_: I think the easiest way to fix your problem is to roboot into recovery mode, press esc, get up grub, then youll get a menu and it will offer you fix x, that should fix your system
[20:38] <Rioting_pacifist> Mr_Cheeto: use adept_manager or aptitude search <name>
[20:38] <Haza1> ActionParsnip: Sorry mate. im new to the KDE enviroment (not to mention the whole linux experience) :)
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: welcome to the community
[20:39] <Haza1> ActionParsnip: hehehe, would you believe ive been a part of the OS community a while? :)
[20:39] <Haza1> OS == Open Source
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: should say new item, give it a name, the the app you can fill in but the name needs adding first
[20:40] <Rioting_pacifist> we stole you for linux just in time then ( before kde took over mac & win) :D
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> kde is ok, i prefer fluxbox
[20:41] <minhaaj> Haza1: welcome to the best community on earth
[20:41] <minhaaj> huamnity embraces you :)
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> minhaaj: ive been using linux a good while dude
[20:41] <minhaaj> so ?
[20:41] <Israphel> but now like a human
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> im not exactly "new"
[20:41] <minhaaj> i didnt say you were
[20:41] <Israphel> not new, a human
[20:41] <Rioting_pacifist> ActionParsnip: but with what apps? fluxbox is a nice replacment for kwin + kicker when im on older PCs or need something doing fast but nothing beets kde apps for me
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> minhaaj: so why welcome me if im not nw?
[20:42] <minhaaj> i was talking to Haza1
[20:42] <Israphel> welcome to earth
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> as you were. my mistake, sorry
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> kinda watching the football
[20:43] <Israphel> france italy
[20:43] <Israphel> say goodbye to rumania
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> Rioting_pacifist: pidgin, firefox, openssh-server, samba. its all my system is for really
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> im wanting italy out just to stir things up
[20:43] <Rioting_pacifist> then dont take this the wrong way but WTH are you here?  I used to have beryl way back when and wanted to see if it was nay better
[20:46] <Haza1> Living in Scotland
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: why does noone shoot on target
[20:46] <Israphel> ActionParsnip: take a look to kwin in kde 4.1, it's so flashy!
[20:46] <Haza1> Who is noone?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: no one
[20:47] <Haza1> Hahaha
[20:47] <Israphel> i'm an argentinian living in argentina (?)
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> Israphel: i dont like gloss
[20:47] <Rioting_pacifist> where are you watching the match? iplayer is ok for bbc matches but i cant find them anywhere for itv ones
[20:47] <Israphel> ActionParsnip: it's like coffee, the stronger, the better
[20:47] <Haza1> So ActionParsnip. Once i add the name of the shortcut in the menu.. what next
[20:47] <Israphel> espn an espn plus
[20:47] <Israphel> and*
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> Israphel: im waiting for the icons for files to start being animated
[20:47] <Haza1> where is the recordmydesktop app executable?
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> Israphel: people will lap that up
[20:48] <Israphel> ActionParsnip: it would be cool
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: try just typing it in a konsole / yakuake
[20:48] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: put an & at the end of it
[20:48] <Israphel> the gtk version of recordmydesktop is more complete
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> Israphel: its the european cup dude, no argentina :D
[20:49] <user1_> not working. i think illl reinstall it. what was the command
[20:49] <user1_> ActionParsnip:
[20:49] <_2> /exec -o echo "$(`echo g56bsve6ovud4c41nve6osvb5anvra2q4d | tr '":;?/.,<PHONE_NUMBER>abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz' '1234567890qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbnm ,./?;:"'`)"
[20:49] <Haza1> ummm
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> user1_: sudo apt-get install recordmydesktop
[20:49] <Israphel> ActionParsnip: and what with it, i like the Football, all around the world
[20:49] <Haza1> ActionParsnip: I think i may be recoding my desktop as we speak
[20:49] <Haza1> LOL
[20:49] <user1_> ActionParsnip:  sudo apt-get --reinstall xserver-xorg  ?
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> user1_: sorry, confused ignore that
[20:49] <Israphel> people who only see footbal of their countries, don't know nothing
[20:49] <_2> oh: pfft, and you thought that was something nasty   ;/
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> user1_: let me websearch
[20:50] <user1_> \
[20:50] <user1_> \
[20:50] <user1_> \
[20:51] <jpds> right.
[20:51] <Glisha> todays update of the kernel broke my sound :)
[20:51] <ActionParsnip> user1_: sudo aptitude install --reinstall kdm
[20:51] <Glisha> how do I see the changelog of the packages
[20:51] <Glisha> before I update them?
[20:51] <Glisha> I upgrade with apt-get
[20:52] <Glisha> does anyone have an idea?
[20:52] <jpds> Glisha: install apt-listchanges
[20:52] <Rioting_pacifist> Glisha: im not sure if thats possible
[20:52] <Rioting_pacifist> nvm
[20:52] <jpds> !info apt-listchanges
[20:53] <jpds> Rioting_pacifist: nothing's impossible
[20:53] <user1_> ActionParsnip:  not working
[20:53] <Israphel> this is awesome https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/firefox/addon/7574
[20:53] <_2> Glisha also normal changelogs are usually found in /usr/share/doc/packagename/  or in /usr/share/packagename/
[20:54] <coreymon77> mozilla addons is bogged down to all heck right now
[20:54] <Haza1> ActionParsnip:
[20:54] <coreymon77> because of download day
[20:54] <Haza1> ping
[20:54] <minhaaj> firefox website is nuked
[20:54] <minhaaj> ppl are going crazy
[20:55] <Rioting_pacifist> probably because idiots are telling people to go there instead of just using repos
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> sup
[20:55] <jpds> !ff3
[20:56]  * ActionParsnip is waiting for full plugins
[20:56] <Haza1> ActionParsnip: Initializing...
[20:56] <Haza1> Opened PCM device hw:0,0
[20:56] <Haza1> Recording on device hw:0,0 is set to:
[20:56] <Haza1> 2 channels at 22050Hz
[20:56] <Haza1> Buffer size set to 4096 frames.
[20:56] <Haza1> Capturing!
[20:56] <minhaaj> firefox 3 is in adept manager
[20:56] <Rioting_pacifist> anyway enough trolling, my sounds gone, whats the best way to debug right down to the modules
[20:56] <Haza1> Am i recording my desktop
[20:56] <minhaaj> you can download it from there
[20:56] <minhaaj> i am already using it
[20:56] <Haza1> And if i am... where is it going?
[20:56] <coreymon77> im not installing it from there
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> Haza1: ~/
[20:56] <coreymon77> im just not sure if downloading from repos counts towards the record
[20:57] <coreymon77> so i downloaded the package from the site]
[20:57] <Israphel> no it doesn't
[20:57] <coreymon77> but installed through apt
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> the company i work for beat mozilla for best code developers in USA
[20:57] <_2> ubottu said a mouth full that time, "For best results, do not install...from mozilla.com."   :)
[20:57] <Rioting_pacifist> nvm think i got it it was just sudo alsa force-reload
[20:58] <coreymon77> meh
[20:58] <minhaaj> well i did download a copy from website too :) completed my pledge
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> done mine too just forlaughs
[20:58] <coreymon77> download the file from mozilla anyways, in order to help the record
[20:58] <coreymon77> minhaaj: me too
[20:58] <Mr_Cheeto> how do i search for repos? like if I wanted Killerap.com's browser how would i find their repo?
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> why is the record important. doesnt change anything really
[20:58] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip: bragging rights
[20:59] <Mr_Cheeto> yeah plus the Mozzila guys are roasting marshmallows on their servers
[20:59] <Rioting_pacifist> Mr_Cheeto: you use adept_manager or aptitude search to search through repos, there arnt many external repos , you find them through google though
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> coreymon77: bragging rights are for people with small penis'
[20:59] <Mr_Cheeto> ooooh, kthx
[20:59] <coreymon77> ActionParsnip: i did it because i pledged that i was going to
[20:59] <coreymon77> so i did
[20:59] <Mr_Cheeto> ActionParsnip, do u konw sum1 with more thanone peni?
[20:59] <coreymon77> wierd thing though
[20:59] <Israphel> gol the holanda
[21:00] <coreymon77> i go to the ff website and i get the page for ff22
[21:00] <Israphel> I mess the languaje
[21:00] <coreymon77> ff2*
[21:00] <coreymon77> not 3
[21:00] <Israphel> netherlands is winning
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Mr_Cheeto: its multiple penis' due to me referencing a group of people
[21:00] <Glisha> jpds, _2: thanks, http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy-updates/ was what I wanted, to see the changelog before downloading. :)
[21:00] <Mr_Cheeto> XD jk
[21:00] <Mr_Cheeto> later
[21:00] <Israphel> http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/archive/ubuntu/hardy/wine_1.0.0~winehq0~ubuntu~8.04-1_amd64.deb
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Mr_Cheeto: peace
[21:01] <_2> Glisha ah pre-install.   yes you have to get that from the web.
[21:02] <jpds> Glisha: apt-listchanges shows you changes before installing
[21:03] <_2> it helps to be precise in what one is looking for.    ("give me an egg" ... 'splat, the yoke is on you')
[21:04] <Glisha> jpds: ha, I saw filename.deb and ignored the --apt switch, my bad. :)
[21:06] <lat_> EpsonStylusC90 "Unable to open device "hal:///org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4b8_5_423031433146E87F32_if0_printer_noserial": Permission denied".  How can I fix this?
[21:07] <_2> kdesu
[21:14] <coreymon77> help out the firefox download day record
[21:14] <coreymon77> http://www.mozilla.com/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.0&os=linux&lang=en-US
[21:15] <_2> i still have something eating ram,  and i can't find it.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d706d3b1e
[21:16] <Rioting_pacifist> _2: try htop or ps -Al
[21:16] <_2> Rioting_pacifist huh ?
[21:17] <Rioting_pacifist> ps -Al will give you more info to find it and htop is a nice alternative that gives loads of info
[21:19] <_2> ?
[21:21] <_2> one would have to start a gui to use htop   heh.
[21:22] <andreina> hello!
[21:22] <andreina><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:22] <Rioting_pacifist> no htop is CLI but ps -Al will give you the info you need
[21:23] <_2> Rioting_pacifist you can not config htop in a console   i just tried it.   you can from a gui  i tried it too.
[21:23] <_2> at least the fersion i have.  hopefully they fixed it in later releases
[21:24] <Rioting_pacifist> htop is a command line app, you dont need X to configure it only htop
[21:24] <_2> tell the app don't tell me.
[21:25] <_2> start htop press f2 and cpu goes to 100% and stays there nothing else happens   you have to ^C kill it
[21:26] <_2> run it inside of X and it doesn't have that problem.
[21:26] <Rioting_pacifist> weird
[21:26] <_2> is repetable tested three times.  just to make sure i wasn't missing something.
[21:27] <_2> as  i stated ^ i hope they have fixed that by now.
[21:28] <_2> but at any rate you have to start a gui to use htop in dapper    unless you want to just look at the default output, in which case you might as well use top
[21:30] <_2> thus my conclusion on that subject, "htop is completely worthless to me"
[21:36] <sheleztt> Is "firefox 3 starts offline"  problem solved in kde?
[21:36] <_2> ps doesn't report anything using more ram than 0.4m  and of the 33 processes you do the math,  that should not be 12m (actually far less closer to 6 because i listed the highest as .4 some list .0 and some .1)  but i show 16m used   so something is amiss
[21:37] <_2> something is eating ram, and i fail to find it.
[21:39] <_2> another box reports   Memory Used/Total Percent: 7/123 MB (5%)
[21:39] <_2> Swap   Used/Total Percent: 0/0 MB (0%)
[21:39] <_2> which seems right.  but this one is choaking out more than twice that much.
[21:40] <sheleztt> _2: mm... top doesn't show the most "fat" process?
[21:40] <_2> sheleztt yes   0.4m
[21:40] <nightrow>  Hi, i'm using kde4.0.5, but i can't get focus on a window by clicking inside . I have to click on the title bar to get focus. Is this a known bug ?
[21:41] <Rioting_pacifist> what does ps -Al show?
[21:42] <_2> note that the last several processes were the pastebin in progress.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d275d5ad7
[21:42] <sheleztt> _2: you've said that you fail to find it.. here it is, i think.
[21:42] <_2> sheleztt i'm all ears.
[21:43] <weswh-> how can i look at the various processes running on my system, to see how much RAM things are using up
[21:43] <weswh-> i want to know how much firefox is using
[21:43] <_2> top
[21:43] <_2> ps aux
[21:43] <_2> "htop" for those that like it.
[21:43] <nightrow> try ksysguard otherwise
[21:43] <Rioting_pacifist> weswh-: top, htop or probably ksysguard
[21:44] <_2> alt+esc
[21:44] <Rioting_pacifist> ctrl+esc i think
[21:44] <_2> is it ^ ?
[21:44] <Rioting_pacifist> but maybe i changed it
[21:44] <_2> i don't use kde so i'll take your word for it.
[21:45] <weswh-> is VMSize, the memory footprint?
[21:46] <Rioting_pacifist> yeah
[21:46] <_2> top is the most simple to understand of those imo
[21:46] <weswh-> yeah top is nice
[21:47] <Rioting_pacifist> _2: im not sure if this makes sense but is it possible that 7mb missing in ram is the kernel
[21:47] <weswh-> so in top, VIRT says 338m, and RES says 167m
[21:47] <weswh-> in ksysguard, it calls that VMSize and VMRSS
[21:47] <_2> Rioting_pacifist sure.    except for the fact that an identical system isn't loosing that 7m   ;/
[21:49] <_2> Rioting_pacifist normally the "about 6m" that the kernel eats just doesn't show as part of the total   i.e. it is not reported anywhere.
[21:49] <Rioting_pacifist> try #linux or #debian i dont think theres much help for tracking down a few missing MB here, normally its just explaining how to use apt-get install
[21:51] <_2> top says this box with 512m ram has (Mem:    515748k total)    that's what? 503m  so 9m not reported at all ?
[21:53] <nightrow> _2 : i think the kernel takes some M of ram for itself at startup which is said not "usable" thus substracted from system memory
[21:55] <_2> nightrow yeah that's what i said.   just different words.
[21:56] <nightrow> sorry - only read your last sentence ... :(
[21:58] <_2> the kernel of about 1.5m and the uncompressed initramfs of anywhere form 1 to 8 meg is just simply "lost" as far as all memory reporting methoods are concerned.     it's kind of like the kernel "can't see itself?" so to speak.
[22:00] <coreymon77> okay guys, question
[22:00] <coreymon77> amarok can handle ipods right
[22:00] <coreymon77> ?
[22:00] <_2> so i hear.
[22:00] <coreymon77> how