[09:59] <regress> wow....learn a new command every day, haha
[09:59] <zcat[1] > My soundcard appears as two different audio devices in the mixer thingy... the second one has two switches per input, one feeds the audio through to the speakers and the other selects it for recording.
[09:59] <crimsun> I really wish people who have not invested significant effort in improving alsa would stop making blanket statements about alsa.
[09:59] <osfameron> crimsun: why?
[09:59] <crimsun> either help fix it, or shut up.
[09:59] <zcat[1] > BUT the default device doesn't have all the switches. wtf?
[09:59] <fannagoganna> yes why, why is it so much easier to set up sound in windows than in linux?
[09:59] <crimsun> talking trash about alsa doesn't magically make problems disappear.
[09:59] <fannagoganna> ok, how should we fix it?
[09:59] <fannagoganna> how do we get a debug trace on all ALSA processes?
[09:59] <zcat[1] > fannagoganna: file a bug report I think?
[10:00] <osfameron> crimsun: many more people want to be able to listen to sound than know how to fix software, configure things, write code, debug drivers etc.
[10:00] <Anohaakten> hey
[10:00] <Anohaakten> who has beryl installed?
[10:00] <osfameron> oh, yeah, submitting bug reports is within reasonable endeavours though, yeah
[10:00] <Anohaakten> osfameron
[10:00] <Anohaakten> you using beryl?
[10:00] <crimsun> fannagoganna: give me a concrete problem with sufficient debugging info for starters.
[10:00] <threeseas> I could verify my home directory is what it is suppose to be if I know how to determine how much space home has.
[10:00] <Anohaakten> how do you do the zoom out thing with beryl?
[10:00] <fannagoganna> and what would i say, "for obscure reasons my mic does not work. I have the right permissions on all my sound devices"
[10:00] <fannagoganna> is this sufficient?
[10:01] <regress> here: http://rafb.net/p/5Utkp533.html
[10:01] <Anohaakten> how do you do the zoom out thing with beryl?
[10:01] <zcat[1] > crimsun: is terrible UI a bug though? where do we file usability issues?
[10:01] <crimsun> fannagoganna: go read wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems , then pastebin that info somewhere.
[10:01] <threeseas> disk usage analyzer says it not what it was suppose to be when I installed ubuntu
[10:01] <zcat[1] > Anohaakten: window-button and mousewheel..
[10:01] <crimsun> I'm very displeased that people would rather talk trash about alsa than actually try and figure out the problem.
[10:01] <regress> well, I think it happened after I updated a month ago or so
[10:01] <fannagoganna> as i said, how do we do it?
[10:02] <crimsun> fannagoganna: I just told you.
[10:02] <fannagoganna> does ALSA emit messages to /var/log?
[10:02] <fannagoganna> that's the only way. Otherwise, it's voodoo
[10:02] <threeseas> the reason I installed 6.10 is because 6.06 decided it wasn't going to boot up my desktop, let me log in
[10:02] <Anohaakten> crimsun
[10:02] <Anohaakten> you using beryl?
[10:02] <regress> suddenly my soiund went crazy...my headphones played sound at the same time that my speakers did (speakers didn't cut when I plugged in my headphones), headphones were always WAY too loud...I found out that headphones are controlled separately
[10:02] <crimsun> Anohaakten: no, I don't.
[10:02] <regress> so that's taken care of...it would be nice if headphone and speaker volume were tied together, but owell
[10:03] <crimsun> which problem do you want me to look at?
[10:03] <crimsun> I'm not going to tackle everything at once. I'm a finite resource.
[10:03] <regress> but mic still isn't working...today I finally got it to play through the speakers (I can hear it) but no programs can record it
[10:03] <regress> me?
[10:03] <crimsun> yes, you.
[10:03] <regress> oh, the mic one please
[10:03] <regress> I think the others are taken care of now
[10:04] <regress> some googling and experimentation took care of them
[10:04] <Menasim1___> I have windows and I want to install ubuntu
[10:04] <Menasim1___> without removing windows
[10:04] <crimsun> regress: is this the only sound card you have recognised?
[10:04] <posingaspopular> Menasim1___: got hard drive space?
[10:04] <yettenet> How can I remove a program that I installed manually?
[10:04] <crimsun> regress: (DebuggingSoundProblems output would be really useful here)
[10:04] <Menasim1___> 76 GB
[10:04] <posingaspopular> okay cool
[10:05] <regress> crimsun: I'll go read through that link
[10:05] <Menasim1___> I think that there is an exe ubuntu installer
[10:05] <lkthomas> guys, what is universe repository ?
[10:05] <posingaspopular> Menasim1___: there is
[10:05] <Menasim1___> is that right?
[10:05] <posingaspopular> im looking for it
[10:06] <regress> but crimsun, no, I have two devices it seems
[10:06] <lkthomas> hmm
[10:06] <crimsun> regress: so provide the info I asked for in another pastebin
[10:06] <regress> one is the nvidia nforce 3 (ALSA), the other is Analog Device (OSS Mixer)
[10:06] <lkthomas> what's the diff between xfce add/remove and synaptic package manager ?
[10:07] <crimsun> regress: no, that's the same sound device
[10:07] <crimsun> regress: your AD1xxx codec is what drives the actual output
[10:08] <Ademan> anyone who's used dosbox, where the heck is the root dosbox directory?
[10:08] <posingaspopular> Menasim1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/install.exe/Prototype
[10:08] <posingaspopular> its a prototpe
[10:08] <Woodrow> hello
[10:08] <eck> lkthomas: they're all just frontends to apt
[10:08] <regress> hmm, ok
[10:09] <regress> the "cat /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc*" produces an error, I don't have either file
[10:09] <crimsun> regress: that's fine.
[10:09] <eck> well i guess apt is just a frontend to dpkg...
[10:09] <lkthomas> eck, but some package can't be found on xfce add/remove and I found it on synaptic
[10:09] <threeseas> dup stuff into the blank cd/dvd icon and then open it and click on write to disc - in order to get a ghosted dialog box
[10:09] <eck> lkthomas: yes, because the gnome/xfce add/remove programs are meant to be simplified
[10:09] <lkthomas> eck, hmm
[10:09] <Woodrow> has anyone ever had problems with invisible texts in ubuntu?
[10:10] <eck> lkthomas: the idea is to make adding and removing the most popular software programs as easy as possible for new users
[10:10] <lkthomas> alright
[10:10] <threeseas> can't get here from here -- shell beach
[10:10] <Menasim1> only 9 MB!!!!!!
[10:12] <Anohaakten> someone in here has to have beryl installed
[10:12] <crimsun> Anohaakten: why don't you ask in #ubuntu-effects?
[10:13] <Anohaakten> cuz nobody is in that chatroom
[10:13] <regress> http://rafb.net/p/mSwnEu89.html <-sndstat http://rafb.net/p/Idxt4G54.html <--amixer http://rafb.net/p/bHzaKY83.html <--lspci
[10:14] <Anohaakten> just kidding
[10:14] <PIT_>
[10:15] <crimsun> regress: well lo and behold, 'Capture' is both muted and zeroed.
[10:15] <riaal> morning, how do I check if my wireless network card in installed proparly? it is supose to be supported, used it in an drapper computer before (now edgy)
[10:15] <Askar> !hdparm
[10:15] <ubotu> hdparm: tune hard disk parameters for high performance. In component main, is standard. Version 6.6-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 57 kB, installed size 228 kB
[10:16] <regress> crimsun: I don't have a "capture" tab on the volume control
[10:16] <eck> riaal: use iwconfig
[10:16] <Askar> Should I have the hdparm service turned on or off att boot?
[10:16] <eck> riaal: you should get a least one device that doesn't say no wireless extensiosn
[10:16] <regress> so...not sure how I could have found out, hehe ;)
[10:16] <regress> ah
[10:17] <regress> I'm an idiot
[10:17] <regress> ok
[10:17] <regress> I changed the device to the Analog Device (OSS Mixer), there's the capture tab
[10:17] <eck> Askar: if you have a non-scsi and want to configure it, it doesn't hurt
[10:17] <crimsun> regress: or you could have chosen Edit> Preferences  and added it.
[10:17] <regress> I see....I had assumed OSS was the old style and I should just use the ALSA one
[10:18] <Woodrow> what do I do, if the text of buttons, menubars and documents has become invisible?  http://xs413.xs.to/xs413/07102/also_buttons.png
[10:18] <regress> crimsun: no, there's no "capture" in the edit->preferences
[10:18] <riaal> eck,  lo= no wi,  eth0 = no wi, ra0 = Wireless, sit0 = no wireless
[10:18] <regress> there's "phone capture" and "aux capture"
[10:18] <eck> riaal: then ra0 is your wireless card
[10:18] <regress> great though, thanks!
[10:18] <Askar> eck: I dont know what I have really.. I have a laptop
[10:18] <riaal> eck, ok, so its probably working?
[10:19] <eck> Askar: you can probably get a performance increase by turning it on
[10:19] <eck> Askar: iirc setting it up is kind of manual and tedious
[10:19] <lkthomas> brb
[10:19] <Ademan> are there any alternatives to dosbox? dosbox is unbearably slow for what i want it for (nostalgic game playing)
[10:19] <regress> nevermind, it still doesn't work
[10:19] <eck> riaal: probably, at least you have the correct kernel module (otherwise it wouldn't show up at all)
[10:20] <Askar> eck: So i dont get better performace by just turning it on, I must set it up?
[10:20] <riaal> eck, great
[10:20] <riaal> eck, thanks
[10:20] <Askar> !bootclean
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootclean - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <crimsun> regress: is Capture unmuted and set to non-zero?
[10:21] <eck> Askar: look at /etc/hdparm.conf
[10:21] <crimsun> regress: i.e., amixer -c0 sget 'Capture'
[10:21] <eck> Askar: you would have to figure out what modes your hdd supports, and then set up hdparm to use those parameters through /etc/hdparm.conf
[10:22] <regress> crimsun: I'll send you my screenshots...
[10:22] <crimsun> regress: why? just pastebin the output from that command
[10:22] <eck> Askar: if you want to give it a shot, look at this http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_hdparm_to_improve_IDE_device_performance
[10:22] <Askar> eck: Ok, will do. I have every service turned off exept for gdm, odccm, dbus and inetutils-inetd. Is there something else I should turnn on?
[10:22] <regress> http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotvolumecontrolir0.png
[10:22] <regress> ok
[10:23] <regress> I think capture is set to 0...
[10:23] <regress> output > http://rafb.net/p/2Z6vOe73.html
[10:23] <ekul1> !superuser
[10:23] <crimsun> regress: it's still muted and zeroed.
[10:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about superuser - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:23] <posingaspopular> !sudo
[10:23] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:24] <crimsun> regress: I don't know how you expect to capture audible stuff with it muted and zeroed.
[10:24] <ekul1> cheers :D
[10:24] <regress> crimsun: sure, I'll go ahead and unmute, just tell me how
[10:24] <ekul1> this flashplayer doesnt seem to be downloading though :(
[10:24] <regress> I think I have unmuted everything in the gui
[10:24] <posingaspopular> ekul1: i have te same problem
[10:24] <posingaspopular> still havent got it to work
[10:24] <jussi01> ekul1, the flashplayer takes forever
[10:25] <crimsun> regress: amixer -c0 set 'Capture' cap && amixer -c0 set 'Capture' 90%,90%
[10:25] <regress> ...
[10:25] <crimsun> that's a command.  What do I need to do to get it back (I'm chrooted into it off an OpenSUSE livecd)
[10:26] <regress> thanks
[10:26] <crimsun> of course it works.
[10:26] <regress> I'll check out pulseaudio
[10:27] <Werdnus> is init in a specific package?
[10:27] <crimsun> Werdnus: yes.
[10:27] <mneptok> threeseas: sleep, now.
[10:27] <regress> c'mon man, you attitude is like I'm an idiot...but I'm not sure how I could have known this was the problem, nor what the solution was...it was far from obvious
[10:27] <Werdnus> crimsun: the implied question was "which package is init in". apologies for not being clearer
[10:27] <threeseas> how do you recover or reinstall without losing your files ?
[10:27] <mneptok> threeseas: reinstall and tell the installer not to format
[10:27] <crimsun> regress: I'm not saying you're an idiot; I'm addressing the fact that people would rather trash-talk alsa than actually step through the problem.
[10:28] <regress> heh, I said nothing about ALSA
[10:28] <mneptok> crimsun: i'd rather trash-talk ESD or OSS  ;)
[10:28] <regress> and I was more than willing to step through each portion
[10:28] <regress> anyway, I'll say thank you again
[10:28] <regress> and back to googling for my other questions
[10:28] <M_Fatih> i have a problem with apt, i don't know what is this, when i trying to use apt, it prints some lines like errors but my task works fine, i'm installing and removing packages succesfully but i think there is somethings, this is the lines : http://paste.linux-sevenler.org/index.php?id=447
[10:29] <Woodrow> what do I do, if the text of buttons, menubars and documents has become invisible?  http://xs413.xs.to/xs413/07102/also_buttons.png
[10:30] <eck> Askar: I think most of them are ok to keep on, especially since ubuntu boots pretty quickly
[10:30] <humaka> I am trying to update 6.0.6 to 6.10 and upgrade fails to fetch mozilla-thunderbird package, I think the package seems to be too small 4.5, can someone help me? Thanks
[10:30] <eck> Askar: you will find out what you need to turn on as things break
[10:30] <eshaase> how do i scan my entire hard disk for bad blocks?
[10:30] <Werdnus> crimsun: are you aware of which package init is in? if so, which one is it?
[10:30] <jussi01> Woodrow, what version are you using?
[10:30] <Woodrow> Dapper
[10:30] <Woodrow> lts
[10:30] <regress> is there a way to tie headphone and master/pcm volume together - i.e. master volume goes down, headphone volume goes down?
[10:30] <jussi01> Woodrow, you using compiz?
[10:31] <crimsun> regress: sure, you need a quirk for that
[10:31] <eck> Askar: you are also missing a number of really big ones like cron
[10:31] <Woodrow> i tried to install xgl and compiz - that's how this happened
[10:31] <Woodrow> I removed it already but it didn't change the problem
[10:31] <jussi01> regress, there is a patch, but its quite hard to install
[10:31] <threeseas> mneptok: thats a trust thing.... since the first install didn't really make the /home partition I told it to...hmmm - it won't write to cd/dvd ...I'm being held hostage
[10:31] <eck> and udev
[10:31] <regress> ah, ok
[10:31] <crimsun> jussi01: he doesn't need a patch.
[10:31] <Askar> !backport
[10:31] <cyphase> has anyone else noticed that more and more TV shows are using Linux on computers?
[10:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about backport - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:31] <regress> a quirk?
[10:31] <crimsun> it's a simple modprobe snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=hp_only
[10:32] <eck> Askar: i wouldn't be surprised if you could not boot in that configuration
[10:32] <regress> jesus, how do you know that?
[10:34] <crimsun> regress: magic.
[10:34] <Woodrow> jussi01: should I reinstall it?
[10:34] <Askar> eck: Once my computer is booted, the system will not bee slower if I have a lot of services running?
[10:34] <jussi01> crimsun, thanks!! didnt know about that one - there was a patch released a while back
[10:34] <regress> heh, alright
[10:34] <eshaase> how do i scan my hard disk for bad blocks?
[10:34] <eck> Askar: yes, but they are always sleeping. they do nothing but take up a few megabytes of ram, if you are not using them
[10:34] <jussi01> Woodrow, try looging out and selecting a non xgl session
[10:34] <eck> Askar: and if you turn off critical services you risk severely breaking your system
[10:34] <Woodrow> jussi01: I am in an gnome session. xgl is already removed
[10:34] <Woodrow> -n
[10:34] <eck> Askar: if you have more than 100 MB of ram you can afford to keep the essential services on, with no slowdown after the system is booted
[10:34] <Askar> eck: I am using BUM. I dont think it lets me turn of critical services like cron.. thats good :)
[10:34] <regress> so run that command then restart?
[10:34] <Woodrow> jussi01: gnome is my standard session
[10:34] <threeseas> guess its a buy another drive - move my files to it  and then wipe the installationS (2) form the two drive in teh system now.
[10:34] <crimsun> regress: no, you need to close all audio apps, then do this:   kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*) ; sudo modprobe -r snd_intel8x0 && sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=hp_only
[10:35] <threeseas> I suspect it won't let me do that... maybe ubuntus last name is murphy
[10:35] <Askar> !backports
[10:35] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[10:35] <jussi01> Woodrow, Im not sure how to fix it exactly, but do try logging out and checking your sessions. you can still be in gnome with an xgl session
[10:36] <threeseas> oh well more time wasted with technology that is suppose to save time
[10:37] <coolmudit> hi everyone
[10:37] <Woodrow> jussi01: I don't have xgl anymore. and I am already in a gnome
[10:37] <regress> crimsun: thanks! everything great now!
[10:37] <regress> have a good night then, all
[10:37] <coolmudit> this is the first time i am accessing this chatroom
[10:38] <coolmudit> do i need to register or anything?
[10:39] <kraut> hi, i have a problem with a glogic fc hba and sansurfer. when i start sansurfer, i get this error message in dmesg: http://exodus.packetloss.biz/~fek/temp/qlremote_kernel-problem
[10:39] <kraut> anybody an idea what's getting wrong?
[10:40] <Woodrow> jussi01: but I can do that nevertheless. so, what should I check once logged out?
[10:40] <jussi01> Woodrow, just check you are in standard gnome
[10:40] <eck> kraut: yeah, whoever wrote the kernel module messed up
[10:41] <Woodrow> ok
[10:41] <IkimashoZ> Okay, so I'm in Ubuntu at home, so my card obviously works.  The icon shows up in Networking.  However, when I click on the networking icon in the upper right, it doesn't display my wireless connection
[10:41] <tuxcrafter> Hello, i got a guestion i am fine tuning my xubuntu installation and got a list of modules I dont need and that i have removed with the rmmod tool.  I did a update-modules but they are still loaded during bootup, what is the correct way to disable them?\
[10:41] <IkimashoZ> this is not a huge problem, obviously
[10:41] <IkimashoZ> but it'd be nice to see it
[10:41] <IkimashoZ> any ideas??
[10:41] <kraut> eck: i know, but what should i do?
[10:42] <jussi01> IkimashoZ, try right clicking and seeing if its another connection listed there
[10:42] <mneptok> IkimashoZ: just because the device is displayed does not mean Linux can actually use it. are you able to connect with that card?
[10:42] <IkimashoZ> yes
[10:42] <IkimashoZ> I'm connecting with the card for sure
[10:43] <mneptok> IkimashoZ: GNOME?
[10:43] <IkimashoZ> because there's no other way I could be connected
[10:43] <IkimashoZ> GNOME
[10:43] <Helmi> i'm playing around with smb mounts in ubuntu. according to the wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently) it should be possible to use the ~/ shortcut for the smbcredentials-file but as long as i use it like this i  get "error 2 opening credential file..." when is user "/home/username/.smbcredentials" everything works fine - ideas anyone? kinda senseless using the full path...
[10:43] <mneptok> IkimashoZ: sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome
[10:43] <Helmi> ...for a global file :)
[10:43] <IkimashoZ> thank you mneptok!
[10:43] <Askar> How do I change the look of my gnomepanels..? If I change the colour, the buttons is still gray..
[10:44] <tuxcrafter> Hello, i got a question i am fine tuning my xubuntu installation and got a list of modules I don't need and that i have removed with the rmmod tool.  I did a update-modules but they are still loaded during boot-up, what is the correct way to disable them?
[10:44] <mneptok> Helmi: smb.conf is read by root. so ~/ is being interpreted as /root
[10:44] <jussi01> Askar, just right click on the panel, then choose the background tab
[10:44] <IkimashoZ> Unrecognized input.  Enter either "Yes" or "No".
[10:44] <IkimashoZ> Do you want to ignore this warning and proceed anyway?
[10:44] <IkimashoZ> To continue, enter "Yes"; to abort, enter "No":
[10:44] <IkimashoZ> what should I do?
[10:45] <mneptok> type Yes
[10:45] <Helmi> mneptok: ok i thought this ... so i have to reenter the mount in fstab for every single user?
[10:45] <mneptok> Helmi: /home/$USERNAME
[10:45] <IkimashoZ> on my 3rd time
[10:45] <Askar>  jussi01: the buttons is still gray if I do so
[10:45] <Helmi> mneptok: thanks
[10:45] <IkimashoZ> how many times should I expect it to do this?
[10:45] <mneptok> IkimashoZ: what did you type exactly?
[10:46] <IkimashoZ> y
[10:46] <IkimashoZ> ah
[10:46] <IkimashoZ> ic
[10:46] <IkimashoZ> sorry
[10:46] <eck> kraut: file a bug in launchpad
[10:46] <eck> kraut: they will probably report it upstream and ask you if you can replicate the problem
[10:46] <IkimashoZ> okay, install complete
[10:46] <IkimashoZ> should I restart?
[10:46] <eck> kraut: if you can, there's a good chance it will be fixed in a future kernel
[10:47] <Helmi> mneptok: doesn't this have the same effect than ~ ?
[10:47] <mneptok> IkimashoZ: remove the GNOME networking panel applet. then reboot.
[10:47] <kraut> eck: it's reproducable
[10:47] <mneptok> Helmi: /home/~USERNAME is a fully qualified path. ~/ is not.
[10:47] <mneptok> err
[10:48] <mneptok>  /home/$USERNAME
[10:48] <eck> kraut: file a bug in launchpad and make sure you're subscribed to it or checking it
[10:48] <eck> kraut: they will probably give you instructions on how to collect debugging data to submit
[10:49] <Saiz> Hai I have a problem, everytime I try to boot the live CD on this comp GNOME bugs out and doesn't load properly and essentially the whole thing wont work or so slow that watching a snail slide forward for 3 days is more interesting and faster.
[10:49] <eck> Saiz: how much ram?
[10:49] <tuxcrafter>  Hello, i got a question i am fine tuning my xubuntu installation and got a list of modules I don't need and that i have removed with the rmmod tool.  I did a update-modules but they are still loaded during boot-up, what is the correct way to disable them?
[10:49] <Saiz> 256
[10:49] <kraut> eck: sure, but i need a solution to yesterday :/
[10:49] <Helmi> so $USERNAME or ~USERNAME?
[10:50] <mneptok> $USERNAME
[10:50] <bitwizelogic> anyone having lots of problems with flash in linux, and a possible solution; i used automatix to install flash 9 in swiftfox?
[10:50] <eck> kraut: get the latest kernel from upstream and compile it, there is a possibility that it is already fixed
[10:50] <Helmi> mneptok: still the same error: "error 2 opening credential file /home/~USERNAME/.smbcredentials"
[10:50] <Helmi> sorry substitute ~ with $
[10:50] <Helmi> changed that
[10:50] <mneptok> Helmi: did you restart Samba?
[10:50] <shahzad> i need a bit of help if some one is availabel to help, and I m pretty new to all this linux stuff !
[10:50] <kraut> eck: hmm, i'd like to use the edgy kernel :/
[10:51] <Askar> bitwizelogic: I have problems wieving some flash movies..
[10:51] <kraut> eck: but i'll test it
[10:51] <Saiz> eck, 256mb's D:
[10:51] <mneptok> Helmi: is there, in fact, a .smbcredentials in your home?
[10:51] <Helmi> mneptok: not yet - didn't see the reason - but will now
[10:51] <bitwizelogic> toyota.com seems to be the worst that I've run into so far
[10:51] <shahzad> i dont know why but I can't access my hard drives throug linux, though they work fine on windows !
[10:51] <Helmi> mneptok: yeah it works when using /home/myname/.smbcredentials
[10:51] <eck> Saiz: i am not sure if that is enough
[10:51] <cybermad> yahoo messenger is undefeatable :( i look the server configuration of Yahoo Messenger in Gaim, then i block the scs.msg.yahoo.com and cs.yahoo.co.jp as define in Gaim configuration (Yahoo Messenger)
[10:52] <eck> Saiz: i think the minimum requirement is 256 MB, but i am not sure if that is actually enough to fully boot without getting OOM errors
[10:52] <cybermad> any idea how to block it?
[10:52] <Saiz> mmk
[10:52] <shahzad> any help ?
[10:52] <Saiz> i'll go out and buy more ram later then i guess
[10:52] <shahzad> please !
[10:52] <eck> Saiz: typically what happens if you get OOM when gnome is starting is that it will notice that the processes it is starting have died and will keep trying to restart them
[10:52] <eck> which is very annoying
[10:52] <shahzad> i need help... anyone ?
[10:53] <Saiz> I see o_o
[10:53] <eck> Saiz: you can also use the alternate install
[10:53] <Thuryn> sup
[10:53] <eck> Saiz: after you have installed, 256 MB is fine, it's just an issue with the live cd trying to load everything into ram and not being allowed to keep files on disk
[10:54] <shahzad> yohoo /
[10:54] <Saiz> Ah I see, is there anyway to directly install from the live cd?
[10:54] <shahzad> i m not a pretty geeko, some one help please 1
[10:54] <yomm> My gnome-screensvaer is regularly locking up my entire box , 2 out of 10 I can't exit the screensaver at all , not with ctrl-alt-bckspc / or delete ...Anyone else having this issue ?
[10:54] <eck> Saiz: i think you need to download the alternate install (or the netboot install) CD
[10:55] <mneptok> yomm: everyone with poor 3D drivers, yes.
[10:55] <Saiz> ok.
[10:55] <Woodrow> re
[10:55] <shahzad> am I at the wrong place asking for help ?
[10:55] <Helmi> mneptok: you're sure $USERNAME works within fstab? it seems like it's not substituted
[10:55] <mneptok> yomm: change the 'saver prefs to blank the screen only
[10:55] <Woodrow> the problem still remains
[10:55] <mneptok> Helmi: you should not be editing fstab
[10:55] <Woodrow> ... great (-.-' )
[10:55] <mneptok> Helmi: what are you trying to do?
[10:56] <eck> Saiz: for the install consider using xubuntu, it will work better than gnome for the amount of ram you have
[10:56] <Helmi> mneptok: for what reason?
[10:56] <Thuryn> good
[10:56] <Helmi> mneptok: trying to mount a smb share from another pc in the network ;)
[10:56] <ekul1> Hey, i tried to install flashplugin-nonfree but its just not downloading, now i cant use Synaptic till i get it to download and install, how can I? Just says Downloading... for ages
[10:56] <mneptok> Helmi: and why do you need to do that from fstab?
[10:57] <Helmi> mneptok: i'm a noob so i'm just following the wiki
[10:58] <mneptok> Helmi: Places -> Connect to server
[10:58] <Helmi> mneptok: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[10:58] <yomm> mneptok :I'm using the latest nvidia official drivers
[10:59] <Helmi> mneptok: that's the clicky way, isn't it? :)
[10:59] <yomm> mneptok : And the blank screen was the default setting :/
[10:59] <mneptok> Helmi: man smbclient
[10:59] <eck> Helmi: haha, i like that, "clicky way"
[11:00] <yomm> It's like the milky way , but more .. err .. clicky :)
[11:00] <eck> yomm: i think if X locks up it will put a log somewhere, maybe /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:01] <Helmi> mneptok: do mounts via the "places->connect to server" way get saved for future sessions and get automounted on boot?
[11:01] <alexIdoia> hey what daemon is responsible of sound ?
[11:01] <alexIdoia> in edgy
[11:01] <yomm> eck : Ok , I'll check that file !
[11:01] <mneptok> Helmi: no. and they shouldn't
[11:01] <Helmi> mneptok: ok than that's not the way i'd like to have :)
[11:01] <eck> alexIdoia: in gnome? probably esd
[11:01] <eck> which uses alsa, but afaik that isn't really a daemon
[11:01] <mneptok> Helmi: don't be a typical "who cares about system security?! I'M LAZY!" Windows user ;)
[11:02] <alexIdoia> eck: that is what I thought but I could /etc/init.d/esd restart it
[11:02] <alexIdoia> eck: no process of such name
[11:02] <eck> alexIdoia: i think it's a per login daemon
[11:03] <Helmi> mneptok: hmm what's that got to do with security? i got a networks storage device (raid) where i save all my documents instead of saving them locally - so why not automounting this share instead of mounting it manually each time i'd like to save a file (about 200 times a day?)
[11:03] <yomm> eck : Not a single error in that log
[11:03] <alexIdoia> another thing I want to add dictionnary to evolution, how do I do this ?
[11:03] <Helmi> maybe i'm the only one not seeing the security hole here :)
[11:03] <eck> yomm: check /var/log/{messages,syslog}
[11:04] <mneptok> Helmi: uhhh .... you don't see a problem in storing your cleartext server password in a text file?
[11:04] <eck> world readable even
[11:04] <mneptok> Helmi: and you mount it once. when you boot up. done. once por day.
[11:04] <yomm> mneptok : He could use credentials , no ?
[11:04] <mneptok> *per
[11:04] <alexIdoia> eck:  do you know about how to add a dictionnary to evolution ?
[11:04] <Helmi> hmm as it's not a relevant password yes - would i save the documents locally there probably wouldn't be much difference?
[11:05] <mneptok> Helmi: how is any password not relevant?
[11:05] <eck> alexIdoia: i think gnome uses aspell, so i guess that's what evolution would use
[11:06] <eck> alexIdoia: i would ask on #evolution (on irc.gnome.org), they have helped me in the past
[11:07] <stalk> hello all =)
[11:07] <yomm> Mneptik : I use the credential/fstab procedure to (auto) mount my smb shares after boot , is this considered unsafe ?
[11:07] <alexIdoia> eck: off course, thanks, also I have not solved my sound problem here, I have no sound sundenly and I don't know how to diagnostic , should I reboot ? uh
[11:07] <eck> alexIdoia: you should be able to use alsa directly with aplay
[11:08] <eck> alexIdoia: you can use that to figure out if the problem is in alsa or esd
[11:08] <Helmi> mneptok: ok i just thought it couldn't take long until this discussion raises in a linux channel ;) some things never change
[11:08] <alexIdoia> aplay ?
[11:08] <eck> i think you have to use a .wav file
[11:08] <alexIdoia> ah ok
[11:08] <tensor> i need some help on       using kdevelop
[11:08] <__max_> anyone know whats bugged out when i can no longer just press the left/right arrows and let the cursor "slide" through what iv written? i now have to press right/left like a gazillion times to correct stuff in command lines.
[11:08] <eck> it's the basic alsa client that is distributed with alsa
[11:08] <alexIdoia> all daemon say that the resource is busy
[11:09] <__max_> its not just in xterm/aterm etc, its systemglobal.
[11:09] <eck> if you are feeling really brave, you can replace esd with pulseaudio
[11:10] <mneptok> Helmi: yes. you're right. some things never change. experienced Unix users will always tell you storing passwords in files is a bad idea. because, well .... IT IS
[11:10] <suker> t
[11:10] <eck> alexIdoia: http://live.gnome.org/PulseAudio
[11:11] <alexIdoia> eck: I can't hear anysound, how can I restart the daemon ? there is no /etc/init.d/esd nor /etc/init.d/asla
[11:11] <Jowi> __max_, gnome-keyboard-properties. try disable + reenable the keyrepeat
[11:11] <eck> alexIdoia: i think alsa accesses the sound card directly
[11:11] <__max_> jowi : thanks.
[11:11] <Helmi> mneptok: you tried to help me (i'm very thankful for that), it unfortunately didn't work and the next argument is "don't do it that way - it's insecure" - i'm really not the one ignoring security at all. but there definitely ARE some other important things like security like performance and workflow and if that way of mounting shares is that bad we sould probably take it out of the wiki
[11:11] <eck> if alsa doesn't work it is an issue with the kernel not talking to hardware properly, you would probably have to reload the alsa modules
[11:12] <eck> or possibly restart
[11:12] <alexIdoia> eck:  how to I restart the alsa module ?
[11:12] <alexIdoia> is it modprobe ?
[11:12] <eck> yeah
[11:12] <mneptok> Helmi: if you're not ignoring security, who is?
[11:13] <Helmi> mneptok: okay, let's stop here - doesn't make sense.
[11:13] <mneptok> Helmi: you admit you're new to Unix. i have been using it for 25 years. why would you argue with me about it?
[11:14] <mneptok> Helmi: if you want advice from experienced people you have to be willing to accept that that advice may sometimes not be what you want to hear.
[11:15] <Helmi> mneptok: i'm really new in using linux on my desktop. it's not that i never had anything to do with it. And i have to do with unix freaks for about 15 years and that's why i can say the discussion is always the same
[11:15] <riaal> Can I actevate my wireless card whit out having to configure it? =S
[11:15] <mneptok> Helmi: have you stopped to consider that maybe the discussion is the same because they know what tehy're talking about?
[11:16] <mneptok> riaal: what card?
[11:17] <riaal> mneptok, its a Cnet PCI cad, have used it in another breezy computer before, autoinstalled
[11:17] <riaal> mneptok,  im running edgy now.
[11:17] <mneptok> riaal: chipset?
[11:18] <riaal> mneptok, ? (sorry)
[11:18] <mneptok> riaal: what wireless chipset does the card use?
[11:18] <mneptok> Broadcom? Atheros? Intel?
[11:18] <alexIdoia> eck: how do you reconfigure aspell ?
[11:18] <Helmi> mneptok: for you security is a binary parameter - there's only "secure" or "insecure" - probably i'm just too dumb but for me there are some step in between and if i am using a share with irrelevant documents using a password i don't use for the criticals stuff it's not too silly to store it just to make it more comfortable - what if the login credentials would be just guest-credentials  or...
[11:18] <Helmi> ...other stuff? you don't know the situation here in the local network, do you? so why does it always have to be bad and insecure - a single advice like "but be adviced you should not store passowrds in plain text files" would probably enough? sometime noobs also think about the stuff. of course you're right - abstracted. Storing passwords in plain text files IS bad.
[11:19] <riaal> mneptok, not sure, on sec
[11:19] <alexIdoia> I did a dpkg-reconfigure aspell but it returned a "done"
[11:19] <Helmi> mneptok: it's just the way these discussions take that i don't like - i don't say you're wrong.
[11:19] <mneptok> Helmi: if it's bad, don't do it. mount the drive manually once per day when you boot and be done with it.
[11:20] <lkthomas> anyone got problem to compile latest version of kernel ?
[11:20] <mneptok> Helmi: not only more secure, but far easier.
[11:20] <eck> alexIdoia: try DEBIAN_PRIORITY=low dpkg-reconfigure aspell
[11:20] <Helmi> mneptok: so entering all the data for each single share every day? hmm
[11:20] <eck> just a guess
[11:21] <mneptok> Helmi: or use a shell script taht calls smbclient and prompts you for your password.
[11:21] <alexIdoia> eck: command not found
[11:22] <eck> omit the 'try'
[11:22] <alexIdoia> eck: off course :)
[11:22] <yomm> Helmi : I'd go for that latest advice
[11:22] <roland__> why do i get at each upgrade of ubuntu when its nearing the end at the last few packages i get connection reset
[11:23] <yomm> mneptok : so the answer to my former question to you would be a big yes ?
[11:23] <riaal> mneptok, look here, can you find it? http://www.cnet.com.tw/product/cwp-854.htm  I sure cant, crap :S
[11:24] <alexIdoia> eck I put it into two lines but I get the same result, I guess the package aspell does prompt the user for configuration that is all
[11:24] <adonis827> hi guys!
[11:24] <eck> alexIdoia: try setting your LANG variable as you launch an application
[11:25] <eck> e.g. LANG=foo evolution
[11:25] <alexIdoia> eck: I have also tried dpkg-reconfigure locales but it does not prompt me for anything, it does something and ends with Generation Complete
[11:25] <adonis827> newb guestion-
[11:25] <posingaspopular> ask
[11:25] <alexIdoia> eck:  but that won't be definitive would not it ?
[11:25] <riaal> mneptok, I found linux drivers for it here: http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html but I think it is supose to autoinstall whit ubuntu
[11:25] <posingaspopular> !ask
[11:25] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:26] <eck> alexIdoia: i think it would be if you put it in your ~/.bash_profile
[11:26] <adonis827> what is the difference between "install to the hard disk" and "install a lamp server" in the ubuntu server cd boot screen?
[11:26] <Jowi> !lamp
[11:26] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:26] <mneptok> riaal: it's a Ralink chipset
[11:26] <Jowi> adonis827, the lamp option installs the above, the "server" does not
[11:27] <mneptok> riaal: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules
[11:27] <eck> alexIdoia: or if you change your language in gdm, but obviously that might change more than you want
[11:27] <alexIdoia> eck locale not found
[11:27] <alexIdoia> yep
[11:27] <alexIdoia> no
[11:27] <riaal> mneptok, aptitude = apt-get in ubuntu?
[11:27] <eck> alexIdoia: you would need to replace foo with the locale
[11:27] <adonis827> thanks jowi! what's a server without a lamp anyway? :lol
[11:27] <alexIdoia> I used to do a dpkg-reconfigure locaes and it used to prompt me, i don
[11:27] <alexIdoia> 't understant
[11:27] <mneptok> riaal: aptitude = apt-get + ncurses
[11:28] <eck> alexIdoia: did you try the DEBIAN_PRIORITY trick?
[11:28] <Jowi> adonis827, you can use lighttpd and a different sql server for starter :)
[11:28] <alexIdoia> yep I did same
[11:28] <eck> oh
[11:28] <alexIdoia> might it be because I am in the Xserver ?
[11:28] <eck> it's DEBCONF_PRIORITY
[11:28] <eck> that's why
[11:28] <mneptok> thttpd FTW
[11:28] <adonis827> ok. i thought installing to hard disk already contains the server. guess i was wrong
[11:28] <adonis827> i mean the lamp and all
[11:29] <adonis827> new install coming up
[11:29] <eck> apache for concurrency :-)
[11:29] <adonis827> just about right now :)
[11:29] <foutrelis> From your experience, what happens when you have about 500+ mb cached RAM (1 GB in total) and try to run a program which demands lots of ram? Does the system get slower?
[11:29] <alexIdoia> eck: same of the same
[11:29] <riaal> mneptok, "Couldn't find package "linux-restricted-modules"
[11:29] <XBlog> Hi all
[11:29] <Sir`Psycho> hi XBlog :D
[11:29] <mneptok> riaal: sudo aptitude update
[11:29] <mneptok> riaal: then try again
[11:30] <Sir`Psycho> there are a lot of people here :) i hope someone can help you  :P
[11:30] <adonis827> @foutrelis any system should
[11:30] <XBlog> hi Sir`Psycho :)
[11:30] <Jowi> adonis827, the server install is very minimal and a nice foundation for whatever server platform you wish to set up (not just lamp).
[11:30] <eck> foutrelis: are you asking what happens if you push out the disk cache? it depends what kind of applications you are running
[11:30] <riaal> mneptok, same problem, is it in univers?
[11:30] <Shadowpillar> !webcams
[11:30] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[11:30] <eck> alexIdoia: well i am not sure then
[11:30] <adonis827> ok thanks jowi. so the lamp server is a superset of the "install to hard disk" then?
[11:31] <adonis827> why didn't ubuntu made the lamp install default then?
[11:31] <mneptok> riaal: sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[11:31] <mneptok> riaal: sorry.
[11:31] <Jowi> adonis827, yep. well, not everyone want lamp.
[11:31] <Jowi> like me
[11:32] <mneptok> http://www.mneptok.com/lightyrocks
[11:32] <mneptok> ;)
[11:32] <eck> foutrelis: if you have disk I/O intensive needs then the cache will save you, otherwise it is not a big deal
[11:32] <adonis827> so what's your server setup jowi?
[11:32] <riaal> mneptok, awesome, thanks a lot, is it supose to work now or do I need to do somehting else?
[11:32] <XBlog> Sorry, can i install liloboot on a usb drive ?
[11:32] <adonis827> the default install does not even have ssh
[11:33] <foutrelis> eck: I mean, when free -m outputs 981mb used and 688mb cached and I try to, let's say, make mysql from source.
[11:33] <Jowi> adonis827, just a basic lighttpd server, ssh, nfs.
[11:33] <mneptok> riaal: "suod aptitude install network-manager-gnome" then reboot
[11:33] <mneptok> *sudo
[11:33] <Jowi> adonis827, nothing fancy
[11:33] <foutrelis> eck: Will Linux manage my RAM correctly? or will the system seem slower?
[11:33] <foutrelis> *slow
[11:33] <eck> foutrelis: in that case it will not be a big deal, because gcc is CPU intensive
[11:34] <riaal> mneptok, thanks a lot! :)
[11:34] <adonis827> hmm i am not familiar with lighthttpd. what do you use if for?
[11:34] <adonis827> can you use php with it?
[11:34] <eck> foutrelis: on the other hand, if you are running a big database and use up all the ram so there is not a lot of cache left over, then the database won't be able to use the kernel caches of the disk, and it will slow it down noticeably
[11:34] <mneptok> adonis827: of course. in CGI mode.
[11:34] <adonis827> nice
[11:34] <Jowi> adonis827, it is a webserver. and php work fine
[11:35] <mneptok> adonis827: and the CGI handling of Lighty is light years beyond Apache
[11:35] <adonis827> would all of my php apps work in lighthttpd?
[11:35] <foutrelis> eck: Thank you very much for all the info! :) Summary: Does Linux manages RAM in an effective way? :)
[11:36] <eck> foutrelis: yes :-)
[11:36] <kidbuntu> is there a channel where I could ask about programming?
[11:36] <Jowi> adonis827, and my ram usage went from a couple of hundreds of megabytes (apache) to 1-2 megabytes (lighttpd). quite important for me since it's just a simple site.
[11:36] <mneptok> adonis827: yes
[11:36] <eck> well, it will do the best job it can
[11:36] <foutrelis> eck: Yay :P Thanks again. ;)
[11:36] <adonis827> i am about to setup a home lamp server with just 392 ram with no x and everything else
[11:36] <mneptok> Jowi: if you think that's a good memory footprint, check out thttpd ;)
[11:37] <adonis827> are we starting a web server war in here?
[11:37] <mneptok> Jowi: thttpd is currently serving up montreal.canonical.com from a Mac68K with 32MB RAM and NetBSD ;)
[11:37] <adonis827> :D
[11:37] <foutrelis> mneptok: wow
[11:37] <adonis827> nice to hear that
[11:37] <Jowi> mneptok, nah, no need to push it lower than that atm. but i will keep it in mind in case i need a webserver for my PDA :)
[11:37] <mneptok> foutrelis: good luck with Apache on that Quadra 605 ;)
[11:38] <Sp4rKy> hi
[11:38] <Sp4rKy> does anyone use tinyerp ?
[11:38] <foutrelis> mneptok: lol :)
[11:38] <leagris> mneptok, let's try the deathly SlashDot test ;P
[11:38] <adonis827> i thought my p3 500 mhz server would be so obsolete
[11:38] <adonis827> :lol
[11:38] <mneptok> Jowi: also does throttling, if you want a different httpd handing out big media files
[11:38] <Jowi> mneptok, ah ok. very nice.
[11:38] <eck> mneptok: good luck with thttpd on your web server with 10,000 concurrent connections :-)
[11:38] <Sp4rKy> i install server part on my server, but the client side doesn't want to connect to him (client is on my computer), whereas a telnet myserver 8069 works , any idea ?
[11:39] <bikini> how do i change the size of my desktop icons? they're too damn big.
[11:39] <Anohaakten> somebody in here has to have kiba-dock installed
[11:39] <eck> that, and mod_{perl,python,whatever}, are where apache wins big
[11:39] <mneptok> eck: works fine. no problems at all. good luck waiting at your desk while thttpd eats through the queue ;)
[11:39] <eck> haha, sounds about right
[11:39] <adonis827> hi sparky!
[11:39] <adonis827> what do you mean when you say you want to connect to your server?
[11:40] <goban> whats the command to start up the thing that runs KDE apps (KLauncher)
[11:40] <Anohaakten> hey, who has kiba-dock, I need to know how to install it
[11:41] <Askar> When I shutdown ubuntu, firefox complains about not being shut down correctly last time.. Do I have to close firefox before I click on shutdown ubuntu :S:S:S
[11:41] <adonis827> hi askar
[11:41] <Askar> Anohaakten: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268645
[11:41] <adonis827> it happens just about everywhere
[11:41] <foutrelis> Askar: yes you do have to close it before shutting down :)
[11:42] <adonis827> i think that is just ok
[11:42] <Jowi> Askar, yeah. but you can turn that warning off in abou:config i beleive
[11:42] <Askar> foutrelis: hmm...thats pretty annoying...
[11:42] <Jowi> about:config i mean
[11:42] <foutrelis> Askar: not really
[11:42] <goban> all KDE apps say cannot talk to klaucher help plz
[11:42] <adonis827> guys how do you delete lvm configuration in your hard drive?
[11:42] <Askar> Jowi: Ok thanks
[11:43] <cpk1> how would I get user joe who is logged in on a konsole on user bob's X session to be able to run apps using that X screen?
[11:44] <foutrelis> Askar: Maybe Firefox could be configured not to display a warning. Don't know :)
[11:44] <adonis827> askar it is a nice feature actually if firefox hangs up
[11:44] <adonis827> then the next time you start it all the web sites you were browsing is in there
[11:45] <adonis827> !ping
[11:45] <ubotu> pong
[11:45] <Askar> adonis827: why?
[11:45] <yomm> cpk1 : x forwarding ?
[11:45] <foutrelis> Askar: In firefox enter "about:config" in your URL bar. Then in the Filter text box type "browser.sessionstore.resume_from_crash"
[11:46] <bikini> does anyone know of a way to implement a coherence like mode in vmware? for windows programs?
[11:46] <foutrelis> Askar: Set this to false and your should be ok :)
[11:46] <foutrelis> Askar: Note: I have not tested it. I may not work. It's worth the shot though :)
[11:46] <Askar> foutrelis: yeah thanks then I dont get that popup at start.. But it still wont save my changes if I dont shutdown firefox before ubuntu..
[11:46] <adonis827> lamp server installing as i speak
[11:47] <cpk1> yomm: is that what its called? both users are trying to use tty7 though
[11:48] <Askar> foutrelis: Hmm dont have browser.sessionstore.resume_from_crash
[11:48] <foutrelis> Askar: I cannot help further. Sorry :(
[11:48] <foutrelis> Askar: hmm
[11:48] <foutrelis> Askar: How about if you just add "crash" in the filter box?
[11:49] <adonis827> askar your question is firefox specific. i suggest asking a firefox relater channel or something else :)
[11:49] <gordonjcp> silly Gnome question, but is there a command in Ubuntu to reset all the Gnome settings back to the defaults?
[11:49] <Askar> foutrelis: Still shows nothing : /
[11:49] <Anohaakten> hey, my beryl just all the sudden stopped working, anyone know why?
[11:50] <adonis827> erase entire disk and use lvm...
[11:50] <Anohaakten> lvm?
[11:50] <mneptok> because compositing on Linux is beta?
[11:50] <foutrelis> Askar: As adonis827 suggested, you should better ask in #firefox
[11:50] <Anohaakten> wait
[11:50] <Anohaakten> is someone talking to me?
[11:50] <Askar> foutrelis: yes will do. Thanks! Is #firefox in freenode too?
[11:51] <mneptok> Anohaakten: yes, i was.
[11:51] <adonis827> anohaakten not me
[11:51] <adonis827> :lol
[11:51] <foutrelis> Askar: Yes. Wish you luck with your issue :)
[11:51] <Anohaakten> what did you mean mneptok
[11:51] <leagris> gordonjcp, something like rm -fr ~/.gnome*
[11:51] <adonis827> i am installing a lamp server right now hehe
[11:51] <adonis827> choose utc
[11:51] <Anohaakten> mneptok:  do you know how to fix it?
[11:52] <gordonjcp> leagris: hm, nothing less drastic?
[11:52] <mneptok> Anohaakten: i mean that Beryl, Compiz and all other compositing frameworks are filled with bugs and not ready for general use, IMO.
[11:52] <Anohaakten> bah
[11:52] <Anohaakten> do you have any idea how to fix it?
[11:52] <mneptok> Nitro: please lose the public /away messages
[11:52] <leagris> gordonjcp, less drastically you could dig inside the ~/.gnome* directory and remove significant user settings
[11:52] <Nitro> oh, sorry
[11:52] <mneptok> Anohaakten: nope, as i don't touch that stuff.
[11:53] <Anohaakten> hmm
[11:53] <arn_> Hi, how can I make a folder available, so that any script on that folder will be running from any other folder?
[11:53] <adonis827> what is a beryl anyway?
[11:53] <gordonjcp> leagris: now if I blow away .gnome, will it recreate it when I restart X?
[11:53] <mneptok> Anohaakten: your life will be easier if you don't, either ;)
[11:53] <_james> how to mount  on my windows partiton automatically?
[11:53] <Anohaakten> haha
[11:53] <Anohaakten> but is it so cool looking
[11:53] <Anohaakten> :(
[11:53] <adonis827> _james read on /ets/fstab
[11:53] <arn_> _james, read this ---- http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy
[11:53] <adonis827> that's /etc/fstab
[11:54] <leagris> gordonjcp, yes. If you blow out any .gnome* setting in your user dir it will default to common settings.
[11:54] <Askar> How do I disable some virtual terminals?
[11:54] <Anohaakten> how else can you make your linux "cool" mneptok
[11:54] <leagris> gordonjcp, I did that some time ago. Backup any .gnome* beforhand
[11:54] <mneptok> Anohaakten: my sister is cool looking. doesn't mean i'd sleep with her. ;)
[11:54] <Anohaakten> oh psh
[11:54] <Anohaakten> hey mneptok  do you use kiba-dock?
[11:55] <gordonjcp> leagris: yeah, I've done that before too.  Seems odd that Ubuntu doesn't have some "nice" way to reset it, but there you go...
[11:55] <mneptok> Anohaakten: download some Windows malware and watch it fail miserably. that's cool.
[11:55] <adonis827> how about i sleep with her mneptok? joking!
[11:55] <_james> !ntfs3
[11:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:55] <leagris> gordonjcp, mkdir ~/.gnomeolds && mv ~/.gnome* ~/.gnomeolds
[11:55] <Anohaakten> hey mneptok im new to linux and I am just trying stuff out, come on, help a brother out
[11:55] <mneptok> Anohaakten: and i use GNOME
[11:55] <Anohaakten> no need for the sarcasm
[11:56] <_james> how to mount on windows automatically on boot? there's a script on it i think but i forgot something called ntfs-3 but im not sure.
[11:56] <adonis827> _james you need to add an entry in your /etc/fstab
[11:56] <adonis827> that's your clue
[11:56] <_james> adonis827: can you guide through it :)
[11:57] <yomm> mneptok : having said that imo Beryl has come a long way ,and is quite close to stable imo
[11:58] <yomm> mneptok : compiz I have not used
[11:58] <adonis827> _james what is the partition type that you want mounted?
[11:58] <techie_> hello all!
[11:58] <adonis827> ie ntfs or fat?
[11:58] <zubeen> techie_: hello
[11:59] <bullgard1> How can I replace the audio value 'offhook' with 'onhook'?
good morning zubeen.
[12:00] <adonis827> this one is a nice read _james- http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[12:00] <techie_> Can anybody tell me the command to find out how much space I got left on my C drive. I have a dual boot xp and ubuntu. In Windows I would go to my windows explorer to c and figure out by preseing properties!
[12:01] <_james> what's the command to list all hda?
[12:01] <Lynoure> techie_: C drive?
yes c drive into a dual boot
[12:01] <Lynoure> techie_: Linux does not handle local drives with that kind of names. Do you mean a disk used over Samba?
[12:01] <adonis827> you want to see the partions in hda?
[12:02] <_james> what's the command in the terminal to list all the partition?
i don't know if is samba but I use Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy
[12:02] <adonis827> try fdisk /dev/hda if it is included in ubuntu
[12:02] <Lynoure> techie_: If you mean you have ubuntu on one partition and want to see how much that partition has stuff on it, do  sudo du -sh /
probably, since I have heard others talking about samba
[12:03] <_james> any other command/
i wrote down sudo du -sh /  in my terminal and got password
[12:04] <Lynoure> techie_: Yes, that's your password
[12:04] <techie_> after pasword a blank rectangle
[12:04] <adonis827> do you use beryl on top of your window manager?
[12:04] <Lynoure> techie_: it takes a bit of time.
[12:05] <techie_> Lynoure what is the actual meaning of do  sudo du -sh /
[12:05] <Lynoure> techie_: eventually you'll get the amount of disk used
[12:05] <_james> is there any other command in the terminal to know all the partitions?
[12:06] <kontingenz> what have I done? A lot of system tools "system --> administration" are not shown. I can't sudo tools! like wifi-radar.
[12:06] <adonis827> _james check this out- http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
is giving me a bunch of lines with No such files. /mnet/windows/....blablabla
[12:06] <mneptok> _james: ls -l /dev/sd* && ls -l /dev/hd*
[12:06] <Lynoure> techie_: sudo  mean  do as root, du  is a disk usage command (see  man du), -sh means  summary, human readable (see man du) and / means starting with / directory, that is, including all
[12:06] <techie_> is going through every file in window.
[12:06] <xanthia> you could always use the gnome partition manager to view the partitions if you are careful
actually I have mounted windows so that I am able to read each window files but what I meant is how much space I got left in Ubuntu only.
[12:07] <LePoulpe303> ikonia: ping ?
[12:07] <adonis827> how about the graphical partition editor james?
[12:07] <adonis827> gparted etc
[12:07] <Lynoure> techie_: but I guess you could have done  df  too, assuming you could then recognize which drive you meant.
[12:07] <LePoulpe303> hi all
[12:07] <Lynoure> techie_: you can stop it with  ctrl+c  if it is too slow
original install I had used about 30 g in windows of which I use the 25 g left and divided them equally. I must have about 13 gig in xp now and about 11 or so in Ubuntu
it already stopped but only looking at my files in my mn/windows not in ubuntu
[12:09] <Lynoure> techie_: so you want to know how much disk your ubuntu uses or your windows uses?
[12:09] <techie_> yes and how much space is left in each
[12:09] <Lynoure> techie_: Which?
[12:09] <techie_> Ubuntu?
[12:09] <Lynoure> techie_: then do  df  (that stands for disk free)
I don't want to run out of space in Ubuntu, so I must judge what to download or not.
[12:10] <techie_> df
[12:10] <Lynoure> techie_: if you cannot from that tell which disk is which, put it in pastebin and I can try to help you with that.
[12:10] <LePoulpe303> anyone could help me for this : i must boot windows first in order to have 3D detected in ubuntu ....
[12:11] <VII> hello
[12:12] <VII> maybe someone can help me now, my graphics are really laggy when I move a window or scroll in FF. I have a nvidia geforce 6800 ultra. Envy didnt do the trick.
I believe this is windows or my hd1 right?: /dev/hda1             43886816  31808576  12078240  73% /mnt/windows
[12:13] <adonis827> install completer
[12:13] <techie_> Lynoure and this is ubuntu: /dev/hda2             13836040   3291464   9841736  26% /
[12:14] <techie_> lynoure: does that make sense?
[12:14] <adonis827> VII check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:14] <adonis827> does it use the right driver?
[12:14] <VII> adonis827: I know nothing about that
so about 12 g space in one and 13 in the other?
[12:15] <arn_> Why "sudo cd data" is not working? I get an error like "sudo:cd: command not found"
[12:15] <Lynoure> techie_: they wrapped weirdly, so it takes me a bit to read. pastebin would have made it easier
[12:15] <adonis827> ok VII but i hope you don't mind working on the command line
[12:15] <VII> adonis: I will try =)
[12:16] <dan1> arn_ you can just cd without sudo
[12:16] <adonis827> fire up a terminal then
[12:16] <adonis827> and run "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12:16] <Lynoure> techie_: oh, if you add -h to that  (du -h) you get it in a more human readable form
[12:16] <Craeo> Greetings
[12:16] <adonis827> jowi still there?
[12:16] <arn_> dan1, "data" directory is restricted for the username i am using
[12:17] <techie_> !pastebin
[12:17] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:17] <olrrai> hey, 994 users! :)
[12:17] <Lynoure> techie_: the windows one is 73% full and the ubuntu one 26% full. yes, about 12 and 9 G free
[12:17] <dan1> arn_, it should not stop you using cd, after you will need to use sudo to perform actions
[12:17] <adonis827> what's the package for sshd?
[12:18] <Lynoure> adonis827: openssh-server, I think.
[12:18] <arn_> dan1, jahid@jahid-desktop:/usr/local/pgsql$ cd data
[12:18] <arn_> bash: cd: data: Permission denied
[12:19] <VII> adonis ok, done
[12:19] <techie_> Lynoure: here is the paste....http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9211/
[12:19] <adonis827> why is ssh not installed in a server really bugs me
[12:19] <yomm> adonis : it's on the cd
help me interpret the results.
[12:20] <dan1> arn_, odd, i can cd anywhere as a user, what does "ls -l" tell you
[12:20] <techie_> although it seems I still have plenty of space
[12:20] <adonis827> VII check the line Section "Screen"
[12:20] <VII> adonis: yes
[12:20] <IkimashoZ> Hey, has anyone ever successfully solved the skype-scim conflict??
[12:20] <arn_> danl, also says permission denied
[12:20] <adonis827> sorry it's
[12:20] <adonis827> Section "Device"
[12:20] <adonis827> what is the driver used in there?
[12:21] <dan1> arn_, ok sudo ls -l
[12:21] <arn_> danl, it works
[12:21] <_james> how to automatically mount to windows drive on boot? help pls.
[12:21] <VII> adonis: 	Identifier	"Generic Video Card"
[12:21] <VII> 	Driver		"vesa"
[12:21] <VII> 	BusID		"PCI:1:0:0"
[12:21] <arn_> danl, even i can copy and remove things from that folder using "sudo", but not "cd"
[12:22] <mneptok> _james: that's completely documented on the wiki.
[12:22] <mneptok> _james: there's no reason to make someone type it again
[12:22] <dan1> arn_, it is odd that you cannot use cd, you could try dropping to root using "su" but pay attention to what you type
did you receive my pastebin!
[12:22] <adonis827> VII that's basically it i guess
[12:22] <adonis827> your video card was not detected
[12:22] <adonis827> hmm
[12:22] <_james> dude i can't find it right.. im just new on ubuntu :(
[12:23] <adonis827> is the nva driver compiled by default in ubuntu?
[12:23] <adonis827> i know it is in lts
[12:23] <mneptok> _james: http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:23] <mneptok> adonis827: "nv"
[12:23] <adonis827> hmm
[12:23] <samlo_> !java
[12:23] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[12:23] <adonis827> VII can you kindly change the Driver value to nv instead of vesa
[12:24] <VII> adonis ok
[12:24] <mneptok> samlo_: sudo aptitude install sun-java5-plugin
[12:24] <adonis827> then restart X by alt + ctrl + backspace
[12:24] <techie_> what the best way to learn publisher from office in Ubuntu. Is there documentation anyplace?
[12:24] <adonis827> hope it works hehe
[12:24] <VII> adonis, how do I do that?
[12:25] <techie_> Or whateve is equivalent to publisher from xp in Ubuntu?
[12:25] <VII> change that line I mean
[12:25] <adonis827> ah you are using less
[12:25] <adonis827> right now
[12:25] <adonis827> press esc
[12:25] <adonis827> sorry
[12:26] <adonis827> press q to exit
[12:26] <mneptok> techie_: what is it you want to actually do?
[12:26] <samlo_> !wow
[12:26] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[12:26] <Lynoure> techie_: Linux is quite space efficient :) Out of those only hda1 and hda2 and data partitions you need to care about, the first number column is actual size, the next is the usage, and the third is what is left. and then the % for hom much is used
[12:26] <VII> adonis, I tried to change the file from the text editor, but it wouldnt alow me to save the changes
[12:26] <varka> techie_: http://www.learnopenoffice.org/tutorials.htm
[12:26] <adonis827> then use an editor you are familiar with maybe nano
[12:26] <adonis827> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.cong
[12:26] <adonis827> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf that is
[12:27] <Lynoure> techie_: I'm not sure I know if Publisher by Microsoft is desktop publishing or web stuff.
[12:27] <mneptok> *Feisty
[12:27] <techie_> desktop publishing
[12:27] <adonis827> VII are you following?
[12:27] <techie_> varka thanks I will check that link.
[12:27] <VII> adonis, yes
[12:27] <VII> Ive typed that command now, and I see the file
[12:28] <adonis827> ok you may now edit the file
[12:28] <Lynoure> techie_: most people use  scribus  for that
[12:28] <mneptok> techie_: sudo aptitude install scribus
[12:28] <VII> adonis, Ive made the change, how do I save?
[12:28] <techie_> do we have learning tutorials like in office?
[12:28] <techie_> thanks mneptok
[12:29] <mneptok> ugh. i really want ne for *nix n00bs editing from the shell :(
[12:29] <adonis827> VII ctrl + x
[12:29] <VII> done
[12:29] <mneptok> techie_: http://www.scribus.net/
[12:29] <ycmarvin> hello..can ples someone help me. I need a file shredder program
[12:29] <adonis827> restart your X now
[12:30] <adonis827> logout in there
[12:30] <VII> ok, brb
[12:30] <threeseas> strange - ubuntu 6.10 install - hda1 fat32 for transfer between linux and window and storage - hda2 swap - hda3 system, had4 home - but what it did is put home on the smaller system partition put stuff I put in hda1 on hda4 but assumed the smaller partition size of hda1  --- results - no real access to the space of hda1 and greatly limiting the available space on hda4 (calling it hda1) --- seems to be some sort of install problem in 6.
[12:30] <ycmarvin> hello..can please someone help me. I need a file shredder program
[12:30] <mneptok> ycmarvin: please do not repeat
[12:31] <ycmarvin> oh sorry
[12:31] <mneptok> rm not doing it for you?
[12:31] <VII> adonis, I logged out and back in, still laggy
[12:31] <Tomcat_> ycmarvin: "wipe"
[12:32] <Lynoure> ycmarvin: sudo aptitude install wipe  if rm is not suitable for you
[12:32] <adonis827> what do you mean by laggy anyway?
[12:32] <adonis827> is the screen resolution right?
[12:32] <techie_> All the information you guys are providing me is terrific. I have to keep copying and pasting the info to my text editor (gedit) for reference later. Is there an easier way of doing this, I am using xchat 2.66
[12:32] <adonis827> or is it too low?
[12:32] <mneptok> techie_: enable logging
[12:32] <VII> adonis, its updates window movements and scrolling very slowly
[12:33] <VII> *it
[12:33] <techie_> how do i enable?
[12:33] <adonis827> hmm you need to change your monitor resolution too
[12:33] <ycmarvin> thanks lynore and tomcat
[12:33] <ailean> how do i ./ a file without navigating to that directory first?
[12:33] <VII> adonis: oh?
[12:34] <techie_> enable logging
[12:34] <techie_> I guess not here.... how do I enable logging in xchat?
[12:34] <mneptok> techie_: dunno. i don't use XChat
[12:34] <varka> ailean: you want to execute a file?
[12:34] <ailean> varka, yes, i want to put a shortcut in the menu for it
ok i will figure it out. let me see....
[12:35] <varka> ailean: just put in the whole path to it beginning with /
[12:35] <ailean> varka, but it's in /opt/foo/foo/file
[12:35] <ailean> oh right
[12:35] <adonis827> sorry i got dc
[12:35] <ailean> i don't need ./ then?
[12:35] <varka> ailean: no
[12:35] <adonis827> i need to leave after around 20 minutes but i need to setup ssh first on my server before i go
[12:35] <funpop> is there a sound-juicer alternative for ripping cd's in the repos ?
[12:35] <ailean> varka, now it's not showing up . . .
[12:36] <adonis827> VII go back to editing your xorg config file
[12:36] <adonis827> VII go back to editing your xorg config file
[12:36] <frying_fish> adonis827: set up in what manner?
[12:36] <varka> ailean: "." ist the directory you are right into, you just have to put "./" in front of an executable if you are in the same directory
also is there a way to search in the chat for what certain persons said etc.... or is enabling logging the only way.
[12:36] <adonis827> hi frying_fish
[12:36] <VII> ehmn
[12:36] <adonis827> i have just made a new lamp server install
[12:37] <adonis827> and there's no ssh service in there
[12:37] <ailean> varka, thanks varka
[12:37] <frying_fish> adonis827: ok, well sudo aptitude install ssh will get the openssh server
[12:37] <techie_> anyway, thanks to you all I must run
[12:37] <predaeus> techie_: hit CTRL-F
[12:37] <adonis827> makes sense frying_fish :)
[12:37] <frying_fish> and then you can edit the sshd config if you need to to change from default options.
[12:37] <VII> adonis, Im having some trouble here now, I changedd the resolution from the system-menu to 800-600, and now I can only see the top left corner of my screen. I cant see what Im writing. :D
[12:37] <adonis827> VII
[12:37] <adonis827> look in the section Monirot
[12:37] <adonis827> Monitor
i will try i.
[12:37] <adonis827> can you tell us what is in there?
[12:37] <predaeus> CTRL-F is searching in most apps and also works here
[12:38] <VII> adonis, I gotta find a way to see my whole screen first :D
[12:38] <predaeus> in XChat i mean, sry. *g*
[12:38] <adonis827> what's wrong VII?
[12:38] <frying_fish> adonis827: you need some unusual ssh options?
[12:39] <adonis827> not really it is installing now thanks!
[12:39] <frying_fish> adonis827: :) thats ok then, don't forget to use key logins to be a little more secure and such, and disable root login (if you enabled the root user on your ubuntu)
[12:40] <VII> woho!
[12:40] <spotted> !ati > spotted
[12:40] <adonis827> how was it VII? hand editting the config file is always the way to go :lol
[12:40] <VII> adonis, I changed to 800x600, and now its not laggy! but now I cant see my mouse pointer :|
[12:40] <adonis827> no mouse at all VII?
[12:40] <VII> no
[12:41] <VII> adonis, things gets highlighted when I move over them tho
[12:41] <adonis827> so there is mouse?
[12:41] <VII> yes
[12:41] <adonis827> anyway you need to edit your xorg configuration like before
[12:41] <VII> ok
[12:42] <adonis827> and perhaps change the value of your monitor refresh rate etc
[12:42] <VII> adonis, ok, I know nothing of that
[12:42] <adonis827> so tells us what is in the section monitor
[12:42] <VII> ok
[12:42] <ekimus> hmm what's the minimum ram for ubuntu, I wanna test a few amanda backups with some clients under xen. should 32mb be enough?
[12:42] <VII> what was that thing u typed again? sumo nano? :D
[12:43] <adonis827> better if you can paste your config file so we can all take a look
[12:43] <adonis827> it's sudo nano
[12:43] <VII> ah
[12:43] <adonis827> sudo to have admin permission on your command
[12:43] <adonis827> and nano is the editor
[12:43] <posingaspopular> ekimus: depends on which ubuntu
[12:43] <posingaspopular> xubuntu is light weight
[12:44] <posingaspopular> but i think even that is too heavy for 32
[12:45] <VII> adonis, whats the url to the pastebin?
[12:45] <adonis827> try .http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:45] <ekimus> posingaspopular: that's all the same, i don't have any x running so for me there's no difference in which flavor, and they're all virtualized
[12:46] <posingaspopular> hmm i duno how to answer than
[12:47] <Craeo> Quick questionn about a permanent install, I'm in the Windows environment, I have the Ubuntu 6.06 CD, but how do I perm. install the OS on my system using the CD, I see no link or icon to do so?
[12:47] <frying_fish> Craeo: you need to boot from the ubuntu cd
[12:47] <frying_fish> then it will give the options for installing
[12:47] <Craeo> Yes, ok
[12:47] <seravitae> hey um
[12:47] <Craeo> I tried that once before and the computer froze for some reason
[12:48] <seravitae> does anyone know how i might use my english keyboard + pc to write japanese in ubuntu
[12:48] <ekimus> Craeo: you need to reboot with the cd - that's not a programm that's another OS which will (if you tell it to do so) overvriwite your windows...
[12:48] <posingaspopular> Craeo: burn an iso of the ubuntu system
[12:48] <posingaspopular> !install
[12:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:48] <VII> adonis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9216/
[12:48] <Jowi> ekimus, I think 64MB is the "recommended" minimum for the server install. don't know if it will actually install on less or not (I used minimum 128MB)
[12:49] <archangelpetro> can anyone recommend a package which will securely remove files from a computer/
[12:49] <archangelpetro> so they cannot be reconstructed
[12:50] <Jowi> ekimus, ah wait. found some numbers: http://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/warty/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ch03s04.html
[12:50] <ekimus> archangelpetro: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/utils/secure-delete
[12:51] <varka> archangelpetro: wipe
[12:51] <ekimus> cool, I'll go with 32MB then, guess for my usage that should be enough thanks Jowi
[12:52] <KenSentMe> Is there a linux ssh client like putty, but that saves passwords and integrates in Gnome?
[12:52] <adonis827> VII what is your monitor again?
[12:52] <jussi01> !putty
[12:52] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:53] <dystopianray> is anyone able to tell me what handles the mute button on my laptop? It's muting the wrong channel
[12:53] <VII> adonis, Im not sure, I know what graphic car it is tho
[12:53] <VII> adonis, its a HP monitor tho
[12:53] <Jowi> KenSentMe, secpanel has got an ok interface
[12:53] <Jowi> !info secpanel
[12:53] <posingaspopular> VII: do a 'lspci'command
[12:53] <ubotu> secpanel: A graphical user interface for SSH and SCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.41+0.4.2-2 (edgy), package size 48 kB, installed size 380 kB
[12:53] <VII> ok
[12:53] <adonis827> hmm it is not an lcd screen right?
[12:54] <KenSentMe> Jowi: thanks
[12:54] <adonis827> VII you need to set the values of HorizSync and VertRefresh in the section monitor
[12:55] <adonis827> then later configure a subsection display under the section Screen
[12:55] <adonis827> look at my sample configuration in here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9218/
[12:55] <VII> adonis: lspci and xorg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9219/
[12:55] <adonis827> what the values of HorizSync and VertRefresh are would depend on your monitor settings
[12:56] <kane77> hmm.. I have integrated graphic card.. If I bought second one (to agp) would it be possible to have dual screen?
[12:56] <maggot> Hello guys
[12:57] <adonis827> VII i am sorry i will be late for work already :(
[12:57] <maggot> kane77 : you can`t use bouth graphic cards. you must disable the onboard one inorder to use the agp
[12:57] <VII> adonis, as I start to understand more and more of this, I think I need to run 60hz, and I was running 75hz before. now Im running 800x600 @ 60hz, and that work.
[12:57] <VII> adonis, ok, thank you very much tho! <3
[12:57] <kane77> maggot, too bad :(
[12:57] <adonis827> i hope some other guys in here would be able to help you out
[12:58] <_eMaX_> hi
[12:58] <_eMaX_> ne! has problems w/ flash 9?
[12:58] <Ace2016> hi all
[12:58] <Ace2016> i need help with my router
[12:58] <maggot> kane77 : but most of the graphic card today have dual display.
[12:58] <Ace2016> it won't connect to any website apart fromg google
[12:59] <Ace2016> no other websites, not even my isp's website, only google
[12:59] <maggot> I know this question may sound dumb. But why my screen resolution is limited to 1024X768 ?
[12:59] <Ace2016> i can search for anything, view the cached text of it
[12:59] <Jowi> VII, just add -> Option "HWCursor" "off" to the Section Device. that should give you the mousepointer.
[12:59] <Ace2016> and i can get to froogle and stuff but no other site apart from google
[01:00] <Ace2016> i can only even get to irc in windows with a usb modem which does not work in linux
[01:00] <Ace2016> hello?
[01:01] <posingaspopular> Ace2016: yea
[01:01] <_james> !ntfs-3g
[01:01] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:01] <Jowi> Ace2016, if you're behind a router you might want to restart it
[01:01] <posingaspopular> try 'sudo pppoeconf'
[01:01] <posingaspopular> see what happens
[01:01] <Folkert> hello all, i have a little problem. Have ubunutu server installed and disabled root login. after that i can login trhough secure ftp but i cannot do anything with the files on the server. So i do need to add a user for ftp or what should i do ?
[01:01] <Ace2016> Jowi: i restarted it many times but still only google works
[01:01] <ikonia_> Folkert how did you disable the root login ? it should have never been enabled
[01:01] <Ace2016> Jowi: but with the sagem fast 800 i can get to any website
[01:02] <Folkert> for ssh
[01:02] <Folkert> i did
[01:02] <Jowi> Ace2016, so it is a hardware problem
[01:02] <Ace2016> However on a side note i can use bittorrent in linux perfectly even though i can only get to google, torrents are going very well
[01:02] <zzz_> Hi zzz! Are You there please?
[01:02] <Ace2016> i can only get to google in opera/firefox/konqueror but torrents work and download fine
[01:02] <Ace2016> its very confusing
[01:03] <yomm> !ati
[01:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:03] <Folkert> in ssh_config set the PermitRootLogin to no
[01:03] <Jowi> Ace2016, a faulty modem/router. replace it. use the sagem one if it works. Might be the MTU value as well. talk with your ISP.
[01:04] <Jowi> Ace2016, or the router manufacturer
[01:04] <Ace2016> can a router really break and only allow you to get to google?
[01:04] <Ace2016> apart from on torrents
[01:04] <posingaspopular> Ace2016: but if you talk to your ISP, spefically demand to speak to a linux expert
[01:04] <Jowi> Ace2016, yes
[01:05] <posingaspopular> Ace2016: what web browser are you using?
[01:05] <Jowi> Ace2016, sometimes my router hangs so http works but https does not.
[01:05] <Jowi> Ace2016, get it replaced.
[01:05] <Ace2016> posingaspopular: its the same in windows and linux in opera, konqueror and firefox
[01:05] <posingaspopular> can you get onto the net in windows?
[01:05] <kliklik> Ace2016, try traceroute google.com and other hosts that you have problems with. Make sure it's your router and not your ISP
[01:05] <samlo> !iso
[01:05] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[01:06] <Jowi> Ace2016, faulty hardware happen. replace replace replace :)
[01:06] <_eMaX_> what is the difference between $@ and $*
[01:06] <Ace2016> Jowi: this is right after a restart, i've cleared the settings and checked the settings over and over again but still only google
[01:06] <maggot> I know this question may sound dumb. But why my screen resolution is limited to 1024X768 ? How can I add more options to it ?
[01:07] <posingaspopular> !x
[01:07] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:07] <Jowi> Ace2016, you say it is the same in all systems. you say that when you use the sagem 800 it works. you know where the problem is. call the manufacturer if it is under warranty or buy a new one.
[01:07] <maggot> Thanks :)
[01:07] <Ace2016> maggot: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might help
[01:07] <posingaspopular> maggot: no questions are dumb here. spamming, bot abuse, language abuse are dumb. notquestions
[01:08] <Jowi> Ace2016, but before you do, check if the MTU value should be something else than the default 1500. and see if there are any firmware upgrades available.
[01:08] <maggot> Ace2016 : yeah, i`ve thought of that. But I have installed compiz. Won`t that ruin my xserver configuration ?
[01:09] <samlo> !cdemu
[01:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cdemu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:10] <Ace2016> maggot: you could make a backup of /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and then use the command to modify it and then make changed the the new config it generates
[01:10] <tarelerulz> This is weird ,but I remember getting mplayer for ubuntu from it repostitory
[01:10] <Ace2016> Jowi: ok thanks
[01:11] <jussi01> tarelerulz, mplayer is in the repos
[01:12] <Ace2016> Jowi: how do i get traceroute, since linux hasn't got access to the repos now? i only have traceroute6 which i think is for ipv6 right?
[01:13] <Jowi> Ace2016, tracepath
[01:13] <Ace2016> does windows have traceroute?
[01:13] <zzz_> !ntfs > zzz_
[01:13] <Folkert> nobody on the ftp secure users ?
[01:14] <zzz_> Ace2016: Try tracert.
[01:15] <_james> how to remove installed programs using terminal?
[01:15] <garuhhh> hi!
[01:15] <threeseas_> fresh install 6.10 (plus auto-updates and xchat and thunderbird) put in blank DVD, copy directory to its icon and click write to disk. Get a ghosted write to disk requester that loses all inside if you move a window over it and off.
[01:15] <Ace2016> apt-get remove bla
[01:16] <garuhhh> hi! can i ask for help regarding my internet sharing?
[01:16] <Ace2016> you could do apt-cache search to find the name of the package if you don't know it
[01:16] <Ace2016> best way to share an internet connection is a router
[01:17] <garuhhh> ace, i have an ubuntu, with two lan cards.
[01:17] <funpop> how do i run a .bin file if double-clicking doesnt work ?
[01:17] <funpop> open with .. ?
[01:18] <threeseas_> funpop: sh .....bin from a shell
[01:18] <Ace2016> ./binfile.bin
[01:18] <_james> Ace2016:  i would like to remove the vmware server because of it i can't mount my windows automatically on boot. and when i try to remove it, it says that couldn
[01:18] <Ace2016> or is it a bin file to be mounted?
[01:18] <_james> Ace2016:  i would like to remove the vmware server because of it i can't mount my windows automatically on boot. and when i try to remove it, it says that couldn't find the package.
[01:18] <funpop> threeseas_, thanks
[01:19] <jussi01> !repeat | _james
[01:19] <ubotu> _james: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:19] <threeseas_> now that I have attemped to write to the dvd I know that that drive is no longer accesible without reboot
[01:21] <tarelerulz> So any of you use mplayer?
[01:22] <Ace2016> i use mplayer
[01:22] <tarelerulz> You ever use it over smb
[01:22] <Ace2016> nope
[01:23] <Slart> hmm.. I have mplayer installed.. I can try it over smb
[01:23] <tarelerulz> No network
[01:23] <Slart> big file? small file? anything special?
[01:23] <tarelerulz> Well, I have movies I want to watch easy and I wanted mplayer just to read them though konqueor
[01:23] <garuhhh> hi! i would like to enable internet sharing from my Ubuntu having 2 LAN cards... help?
[01:24] <jussi01> tarelerulz, you need to have the smb drives mounted in fstab
[01:24] <Slart> tarelerulz: I'm using gnome.. but I doubt it will make much difference
[01:25] <Slart> garuhhh: this is a very common setup for linux.. there are tons of tutorials out there.. it looks basically the same for all linux distros
[01:25] <amca> Hello. I am interested in installing Ubuntu. I am wondering if the Ubuntu Server install has programs that the Desktop install doesn't?
[01:25] <tarelerulz> Why can't you just click on the file and steam it to you. I know totem does that ,but it dose not have avi and so
[01:25] <Slart> garuhhh: you can do it using iptables and masquerading
[01:25] <jussi01> !lamp | amca
[01:25] <ubotu> amca: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[01:26] <Slart> tarelerulz: wouldn't that depend on the server sending the stuff??
[01:26] <_james> !ntfs-3g
[01:26] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[01:26] <amca> Does that mean that the Desktop install doesnt have LAMP?
[01:26] <garuhhh> slart: thanks! i had followed a number of them, and just would like to confirm if i did them right... can I IM you?
[01:26] <Ace2016> tarelerulz you could use ICS using firestarter
[01:27] <Slart> garuhhh: better to do it here.. so people can stop me if I say something stupid =)
[01:27] <garuhhh> i can't seem to follow well the instructions given for iptables and masquerading...
[01:27] <garuhhh> last thing i used was firestarter..
[01:27] <Ace2016> all the traceroutes ping timed out
[01:27] <Slart> garuhhh: ah.. you're using a special distro
[01:27] <Ace2016> in windows with a working connection to the net
[01:27] <garuhhh> am using ubuntu 6.06...
[01:27] <Slart> garuhhh: I haven't tried firestarter myself.. used IpCop when I last did it
[01:28] <samlo> !sh
[01:28] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:28] <VII> I cant get into ubuntu. I get a black screen saying "Out of range, set monitor to 1280 x 1024 @ 60Hz" WHat should I do?
[01:28] <garuhhh> ow? IPCop? can it share internet to windows?
[01:28] <Slart> garuhhh: so... you're trying to do it using iptables and masquerading?
[01:28] <samlo> !./
[01:28] <Sp4rKy> does anyone already use tinyerp ?
[01:28] <kubunturf> hi
[01:28] <garuhhh> i guess i typed something like iptables but got stucked with the "echo" lines... errhh forgot bout them...
[01:29] <garuhhh> am sorry, i'm really new at linux.
[01:29] <Slart> garuhhh: it's a special distro for gateways.. it's pretty good.. we used it at the school where I worked before.. server 100 windows pc's with internet connection
[01:29] <funpop> where should i go for problems with google-earth ?
[01:29] <raw-bin> Greets. Dapper seems to symlink /bin/sh to /bin/dash. I have some perl scripts that use the 'system' perl command that seem to need bash. I'm not clear about this as yet but was wondering if making /bin/sh point to /bin/bash would break anything ?
[01:29] <samlo> Im trying to install an sh file.. And it gives me this: ./install.sh: 146: function: not found.. How can i fix this
[01:29] <Jowi> VII, it means your monitor does not support the resolution the way you have set it up.
[01:29] <garuhhh> ok.. can i use apt-get to install it? ipcop?
[01:29] <Slart> garuhhh: are you going to use the computer for anything else than sharing the network?
[01:29] <garuhhh> actually sharing the internet
[01:30] <Slart> garuhhh: ah.. no.. it's a whole operating system.. a very small one but still
[01:30] <VII> Jowi, yes. Ive tried to change it through "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", but it wont work.
[01:30] <garuhhh> right now, file sharing and printer sharing is good.
[01:30] <erstazi> hello
[01:30] <Slart> garuhhh: ok.. but you don't use it as your desktop?.. so it's just a server?
[01:30] <garuhhh> ah... so ipcop is not really part of ubuntu?
[01:30] <garuhhh> yeah... i use it also as a desktop
[01:31] <Jowi> VII, first of all check the specs of your monitor on the manufacturer home page to see which resolutions and rates it support.
[01:31] <Slart> garuhhh: nope.. it's a stand alone system
[01:31] <VII> Jowi, will do right away
[01:31] <garuhhh> ok... too bad.. am already using ubuntu..
[01:31] <Slart> garuhhh: ok.. then you probably want to do it "the hard way" =)
[01:31] <tarelerulz> I play movie with it
[01:31] <garuhhh> ooowwww...
[01:31] <tarelerulz> the sound is all messed up
[01:31] <garuhhh> by the way,, your replies have my name "garuhhh" at the start... how can i do that?
[01:31] <Slart> garuhhh: how many computers will you be connecting?
[01:31] <garuhhh> do you just type my name?
[01:32] <garuhhh> i'll just be connecting 1.
[01:32] <Nalleman> how do I do to mount my memorycard? If i start Ubuntu with card in the slot its ok but if I unmount it Im not able to return it. help plz
[01:32] <garuhhh> its WinXP
[01:32] <Slart> garuhhh: you type S, L, A, R, T, : before you type the rest of the message.. very low tech =)
[01:32] <garuhhh> slart: ok... i get it. i thought there a speciall button to do that! :D
[01:32] <erstazi> hmmm
[01:33] <Slart> garuhhh: ok.. you use a fixed ip-address for the windows machine?
[01:33] <garuhhh> slart: can i describe my current setup now to see if i'm doin it right?
[01:33] <Slart> garuhhh: sure.. go ahead
[01:33] <garuhhh> slart: yep i used static address
[01:33] <samlo> !kde
[01:33] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . Latest KDE veresion is 3.5.6 for Edgy and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org for more information.
[01:33] <garuhhh> slart: on my windows machine it has ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:33] <VII> Jowi, I didnt find much, but I found this: Up to: 1280x1024 / 75Hz, Recommended: 1280x1024 / 60Hz
[01:34] <garuhhh> slart: my 2nd LAN card on ubuntu is <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:34] <Slart> garuhhh: sounds good so far
[01:35] <Jowi> VII, very good.
[01:35] <garuhhh> slart: on my windows, the gateway i used is <IP_ADDRESS>, is that right?
[01:35] <Jowi> !resolutions
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resolutions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <Jowi> !resolution
[01:35] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:35] <Jowi> VII, see the last link
[01:35] <Slart> garuhhh: yes.. it uses the linux machine to access internet so the linux machine is its gateway.. correct
[01:35] <VII> jowi, yes
[01:35] <kliklik> Does anyone remembers "FIle Menu" applet for gnome? Where did it go? Is there a modern replacement?
[01:36] <garuhhh> slart, good so far... now, my <IP_ADDRESS> card has a blank entry for the gateway, is that ok?
[01:36] <Slart> garuhhh: yes
[01:36] <Slart> garuhhh: it's connected directly to the internet so it doesn't need a gateway
[01:36] <pebblestone> Hi, I accidently reinstalled windows xp, which rewrote my boot loader. But the linux partition is still there, can I restore the boot loader?
[01:36] <garuhhh> slart, my eth0, which my computer uses to connect to the internet uses  DHCP
[01:37] <pebblestone> Or do I have to reinstall ubuntu?
[01:37] <IdleOne> !grub | pebblestone
[01:37] <Robinsjostrom> is there any good musicapplication that will sync well with ipod just like itunes but for ubuntu
[01:37] <ubotu> pebblestone: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:37] <IdleOne> !ipod | Robinsjostrom
[01:37] <ubotu> Robinsjostrom: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[01:38] <Robinsjostrom> thanks IdleOne
[01:38] <erstazi> !yum
[01:38] <VII> Jowi, that didnt help me, as Im not able to get into ubuntu
[01:38] <ubotu> yum: Advanced front-end for rpm. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.4.0-3.1 (edgy), package size 197 kB, installed size 960 kB
[01:39] <ikonia_> how strange to package yum for ubuntu
[01:39] <pebblestone> IdleOne: thanks
[01:39] <erstazi> I know
[01:39] <VII> jowi, as soon as the loading reaches 100% I get a black screen and a monitor error
[01:39] <erstazi> my server runs CentOS and I am just tired
[01:39] <nijisan> Hi all, can someone help out with an X server problem?
[01:42] <Ace2016> bye all
[01:42] <VII> Anyone? I cant get into ubuntu. When the loading reaches 100% I get a blacj screen and a monitor error complaining about the resolution and refresh rate. -_-'
[01:43] <Frost^-> Hello. I've installed eclipse a long time ago. I now ran out of space, so I want to remove eclipse and all the things it installed. Can anyone tell me how to do so?
[01:43] <Slart> VII: probably somethings not setup correctly in your X server settings
[01:43] <Vaalth> hey, im having trouble burning the latest ubuntu iso to a cd with cdrecord
[01:44] <weatherman> hi, in order to use nfs, how do I assign an IP adress to the server?
[01:44] <sigvard> VII> dude? have you been changeing video drivers? Sounds like it. Try and boot in to CLI / safemode and redo changes
[01:44] <Vaalth> whenever i boot from it, it hangs at the ubuntu screen with the progress bar and gives Buffer I/O errors
[01:44] <VII> sigvard, Ive tried that. =\
[01:44] <Steve_J> Hi, I am trying to recover my username and password, can anyone help me, I have found a solution online but I don't understand all the commands
[01:45] <sigvard> And?
[01:45] <Vaalth> the command im using is "cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc speed=4 isoimage.iso"
[01:45] <VII> sigvard: I ran the reconfigure thuingy a couple of times, tried different things, but I still get the same error
[01:46] <VII> also, the reconfigure program looks kind of weird. Its not displayed properly, but good enough to use.
[01:46] <Robinsjostrom> do you people recommend banshee or amarok=
[01:46] <sigvard> Try and do a reinstall from repo's of all the different X stuff too..
[01:46] <Vaalth> anyone know what im doing wrong?
[01:46] <Steve_J> Hi, I am trying to recover my username and password, can anyone help me, I have found a solution online but I don't understand all the command
[01:46] <Slart> Robinsjostrom: I hate amarok a little less then banshee =)
[01:46] <Robinsjostrom> Slart: so no one of them is good?
[01:47] <sigvard> VII > have you tried that?
[01:47] <cypherdelic_> !pastebin
[01:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:47] <Slart> Robinsjostrom: well.. depends on what you're looking for in a music player.. I still use amarok for playing music.. but there are some things that annoy me
[01:47] <VII> sigvard, tried "dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" you mean? yes, a couple of times
[01:47] <Slart> Robinsjostrom: I tried banshee.. but I didn't like it.. can't really remember why..
[01:47] <jmazaredo> is there a way for my webcam to work in ubuntu its not listed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras Im just wodering if there are ways
[01:48] <intelikey> does gnome have to have  hald  to run ?
[01:48] <jmazaredo> my cam is PC CAM VQ105 100k
[01:48] <Steve_J> Hi, I am trying to recover my username and password, can anyone help me, I have found a solution online but I don't understand all the command
[01:49] <Robinsjostrom> Slart: I use itunes on win right now but gonna switch to ubuntu. so is it better or worse than itunes?
[01:49] <bimberi> Steve_J: boot into recovery mode, get the username from /etc/passwd and set a new password with 'passwd <username>'
[01:49] <garuhhh> slart, thanks for the help! i really apreciate it :D
[01:49] <Frost^-> Hello. I've installed eclipse a long time ago. I now ran out of space, so I want to remove eclipse and all the things it installed. Can anyone tell me how to do so?
[01:49] <Slart> Robinsjostrom: there's no support for buying music in amarok.. and I don't have an ipod. but it claims to be able to connect to one
[01:49] <intelikey> i just found a bug in the dapper update of udev  it depends on kernel 2.6.15-27 being installed but the update from the repos is 2.6.15-28  so installing the updates fail with /lib/modules/2.6.15-27 not found
[01:49] <posingaspopular> Frost^-: sudo apt-get remove eclipse
[01:50] <Slart> garuhhh: eh.. you're welcome.. what did I do?
[01:50] <Steve_J> Hi, I am trying to recover my username and password, can anyone help me, I have found a solution online but I don't understand all the command
[01:50] <Frost^-> posingaspopular: thanks.
[01:50] <intelikey> do i have to have  "hald"  for gnome to run ?
[01:51] <garuhhh> slart, i confirmed if what i did with my ips is right :)
[01:51] <bimberi> Steve_J: I answered you
[01:51] <Slart> Robinsjostrom: you can just install them both and try until you find you're happy with one... it's probably easier than trying to decide before you see them
[01:51] <sigvard> VII Sorry then... Don't know if can help you..
[01:51] <abunasser> hi i am finally got ubuntu installed :)
[01:51] <Steve_J> bimberi: sorry, I didn't spot your reply
[01:51] <intelikey> ?
[01:51] <posingaspopular> abunasser: welcome
[01:51] <Slart> garuhhh: ah.. so that was the problem.. I thought you were just preparing a really long horrible question about iptables =)
[01:51] <roland__> when will ubuntu 7 be released?
[01:51] <Steve_J> can you help me
[01:52] <abunasser> nice OS but it seems like win 98 :)
[01:52] <Slart> abunasser: eh.. was a lone time since I used win 98.. but I'm pretty sure ubuntu is a a bit more advanced =)
[01:53] <bimberi> Steve_J: I have. But if there's any part that you don't understand then ask about it specifically.
[01:53] <abunasser> too much advanced yes
[01:53] <abunasser> i meant the interface
[01:53] <Steve_J> Ok I will post the help page I am trying to understan in the PasteBox
[01:53] <garuhhh> slart, naaah.. i left the iptables thing... might find time to read them later on..
[01:53] <ikonia_> abunasser whats the problem with the pastebin
[01:53] <roland__> when will ubuntu 7 be released?
[01:53] <Slart> abunasser: hehe.. you think Gnome is to advanced? or is it just an unfamiliar system?
[01:54] <posingaspopular> abunasser: gui? that can be changed.
[01:54] <posingaspopular> roland__: april
[01:54] <posingaspopular> !feisty
[01:54] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule - Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty - Help and support in #ubuntu+1 (NOT #ubuntu)
[01:54] <fnf> I never use GDM, but just noticed it does not respect the ".bashrc" file. E.g: Some environment variables I've exported in .bashrc doesn't seem to have any effect, one of them is GTK_IM_MODULE for scim. Can anyone confirm this ?
[01:54] <ikonia_> fnf thats for shell invokation
[01:54] <Slart> garuhhh: oh.. ok. Well.. Ip tables can be kind of nasty until you get the hang of it
[01:54] <garuhhh> slart: one more thing, what should be tHe DNS that should be found on my Windows machine?
[01:55] <abunasser> i got ati driver installed and 3d acceleration enabled but could not use beryl yet
[01:55] <Steve_J> I have posted the help file I am reading in the PasteBox, can you read it
[01:55] <fnf> ikonia_: just about to ask it, I guess so. What is the standard way to set some env. variables in GDM ?
[01:55] <ikonia_> fnf check the gdm.conf file
[01:55] <yrtw6er> abunasser: did you install XGL
[01:56] <abunasser> yes by backage manager
[01:56] <Slart> garuhhh: you can use the same dns as the linux machine gets from your ISP... or you can setup your own dns server on the linux machine.. I have setup bind on my router/gateway/server
[01:56] <roland__> whats the difference between beryl and compiz?
[01:56] <fnf> ikonia_: thanks for the hint =)
[01:56] <abunasser> i got these error :::  beryl: No composite extension
[01:56] <Slart> garuhhh: there are other dns servers.. look for a dns server in synaptic.. and find one that looks easy
[01:56] <Frogzoo> roland__: beryl has more features
[01:56] <ikonia_> fnf no problem- think of bash_profile being run when you login to a shell, not when you open a shell
[01:56] <Slart> !dns server
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dns server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:56] <Slart> !dnsserver
[01:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dnsserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:57] <Steve_J> bimberi I have pasted the help file I am working from in the PasteBox
[01:57] <ikonia_> Steve_J you have to supply the url
[01:57] <Steve_J> oh,
[01:57] <Steve_J> Its http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9227/
[01:57] <yrtw6er> abunasser: ok, well I don't think you are actually running XGL... you have to make a special entry in GDM in order to use that instead of just X11
[01:57] <Slart> abunasser: ATI and Beryl are... well.. let's say they don't send each other christmas cards any more =).. it's fixable but it takes some work
[01:57] <fnf> ikonia_: bash_profile by default runs .bashrc.
[01:58] <ikonia_> fnf yup
[01:58] <ikonia_> fnf and /etc/profile
[01:58] <yrtw6er> Slart... working fine here.... but..yeah...did take some work
[01:58] <ikonia_> (although thats unwritten)
[01:58] <abunasser> how to make xgl start with gnome instead of aiglx ?????
[01:58] <ikonia_> abunasser what ?
[01:58] <ikonia_> abunasser gnome is a desktop
[01:58] <Slart> abunasser: I'm sure there are people here that have ATI cards running beryl.. myself I have a nvidia so I wouldn't know where to start
[01:58] <Steve_J> bimberi?
[01:58] <Steve_J> The help file is it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9227/
[01:58] <roland__> i ran beryl fine on my ati radeon 9550 in kubuntu
[01:59] <abunasser> Detected xserver                                : AIGLX
[01:59] <abunasser>    >>>>>>>  how to make it glx ???
[01:59] <Slart> yrtw6er: might as well update myself on this.. does the the tutorials that ubotu has work for ati and beryl?
[01:59] <garuhhh> slart: ok i might find a dns server...
[01:59] <garuhhh> slart: thanks again.. i 'll try that.
[01:59] <ikonia_> abunasser join #ubuntu-effects
[01:59] <Slart> garuhhh: you're welcome
[02:00] <Steve_J>  Hi, I am trying to recover my username and password, can anyone help me, I have founda solution online but I don't understand all the command
[02:00] <abunasser> thanks :)
[02:00] <ikonia_> Steve_J re-install or reset the password file from the livecd
[02:00] <Vaalth> are ubuntu install cds on sale at any stores? like best buy
[02:00] <fnf> Steve_J: the username does not need recovering, the password should just be reset
[02:00] <Slart> Steve_J: do you have the url to the online solution?
[02:00] <yrtw6er> abunasser: i'll try to find you a tutorial...
[02:00] <Pici> Vaalth: No... But you can download it for free or get a version shipped to you (for free)
[02:00] <Steve_J> Its here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9227/
[02:01] <Vaalth> i need to get it working today and i keep getting buffer i/o errors from cds i burn
[02:01] <Steve_J> I don't understand the Run the "tail /etc/passwd" command bit
[02:01] <roland__> shipping ubuntu cd around the world is free ?
[02:01] <ikonia_> Steve_J re-install
[02:01] <fnf> Steve_J: can't you invoke passwd as root to reset yours ?
[02:01] <Slart> Vaalth: why not try some other burning software.. brasseros or gnomebaker?
[02:01] <Pici> Steve_J: Thats only if you forget what your username is
[02:01] <zero-9376> can someone reccommend an easy to learn programming language to make a nice looking gui that will simply change a config file and a maybe a channel that i can join for more info on programming under linux?
[02:02] <Vaalth> Slart : I'll give it a try. thanks :)
[02:02] <Pici> Vaalth: Have you checked the md5 of the downloaded file?
[02:02] <Vaalth> no
[02:02] <bimberi> Steve_J: I have told you a solution.  If you are trying to crack through a password protected grub as well I am becoming skeptical and reluctant to help.
[02:02] <ikonia_> Steve_J either re-install or reset the password file from the livecd
[02:02] <Vaalth> how would i go about doing that?
[02:02] <Pici> !md5 > Vaalth
[02:02] <Vaalth> thank you
[02:02] <Pici> Vaalth: Sure
[02:02] <yrtw6er> zero: Python...
[02:02] <Slart> zero-9376: python perhaps.. there are probably others
[02:02] <yrtw6er> there are defniately others...:-P
[02:02] <Slart> =)
[02:03] <Slart> any nice easy ones?
[02:03] <marsan> hello. i got a printer problem, after i innstalled Ubuntu 6.10 again i cant seem to get my printer to work (Epson stylus c66). I can see my printer in lsusb but the gnome-cups program cant find its location.
[02:03] <Steve_J> I am not trying to do anything dodgy, I have just installed Ubuntu for the first time, but it is not loading with the usersname and pass I thought I chose
[02:03] <zero-9376> i just read in linux format about mono? easy enough?
[02:03] <yrtw6er> nah....I use Python
[02:03] <ikonia_> Steve_J re-install or reset the password file by booting from the livecd
[02:03] <Steve_J> I don't want to re-install cause it is hard to fix GRUB the
[02:03] <Steve_J> how do I reset the password from the live CD
[02:03] <ikonia_> zero-9376 I'm finding it goo, but slow to learn and I normally do c/c++
[02:03] <ikonia_> Steve_J I've given you your two options
[02:04] <bimberi> Steve_J: OK.  Then the solution I posted is less complicated and should be all you need
[02:04] <bimberi> Steve_J: boot into recovery mode, get the username from /etc/passwd and set a new password with 'passwd <username>'
[02:04] <ikonia_> Steve_J you bootfrom the cdrom mount the harddisk file system and remove the password from the /etc/shadow file on the mounted file system
[02:04] <yrtw6er> abunasser: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[02:04] <MrEgg964> Hi. I'd like to run my existing XP on Ubuntu. What do I need for that? Thanks.
[02:04] <Steve_J> ye thats where I am stuck
[02:04] <zero-9376> thanks ill look into python
[02:04] <fnf> MrEgg964: a VM.
[02:04] <Pici> Steve_J: What confuses you?
[02:04] <Steve_J> how do I use the /etc/passwd command
[02:04] <kontingenz> how to create a DVD image? I got File "size limit exceeded" with mkisofs -o /home/data/burn/bilder.iso -r -l -J -V Bilder-Backup-03.2007 /media/usbdisk/bilder/
[02:04] <ikonia_> bimberi that won't work as passwd will update the password on the livecdo - not hte mounted file system
[02:05] <ikonia_> Steve_J its a file
[02:05] <ikonia_> Steve_Jnot a command
[02:05] <Steve_J> I need a bit of a step by step
[02:05] <zero-9376> is pythin crossplatform
[02:05] <Pici> Steve_J: /etc/passwd isnt a command, its a file, you need to look at it using something like cat, tail, nano, something
[02:05] <ikonia_> Steve_J you'd be easier installing
[02:05] <yrtw6er> zero: yes
[02:05] <Slike> hello, how do i get the output of a machine on another desktop (with Xclient): "export DISPLAY=<IP_ADDRESS>:0.0" didn't do very much
[02:05] <Slart> zero-9376: python is available for windows and linux.. at least
[02:05] <bimberi> ikonia_: what livecd?  I'm suggesting recovery mode - from the HDD
[02:05] <ikonia_> bimberi ahh right
[02:05] <ikonia_> bimberi sorry thought you where taggin on to my comment
[02:05] <Steve_J> bimberi I am with you
[02:06] <yrtw6er> SLike: what exactly are you trying to do?
[02:06] <bimberi> ikonia_: kk :)  this has been going on for a while
[02:06] <Steve_J> how can I recover from HDD using the /etc/passwd file
[02:06] <bimberi> Steve_J: 'tail /etc/passwd' <-- should show you what the username is
[02:06] <ikonia_> Steve_J forget the /etc/password file - follow what bimberi said boot in recovery mode and just use passwd $username
[02:06] <Slike> yrtw6er: there's a windows box here, it has some xclient program installed on it. we want the output of a remote server on that screen
[02:06] <Steve_J> yes where do I type 'tail /etc/passwd
[02:07] <Steve_J> I did 'e'
[02:07] <yrtw6er> ahh... sorry can't really help you w/ that
[02:07] <ikonia_> Steve_J you're at too much of a basic level - re-isntall
[02:07] <ikonia_> install
[02:07] <Don_Juan> how can I get the gigabit working on a thinkpad x60?
[02:07] <Steve_J> then "init=/bin/basj
[02:07] <Steve_J> then what
[02:07] <TheLighty> hello all
[02:07] <ikonia_> Steve_J re-install
[02:07] <Pici> Steve_J: You want to boot now
[02:07] <kontingenz> how to create a DVD image? I got File "size limit exceeded" with mkisofs -o /home/data/burn/bilder.iso -r -l -J -V Bilder-Backup-03.2007 /media/usbdisk/bilder/
[02:07] <Steve_J> I want to leard please
[02:08] <Steve_J> learn I mean
[02:08] <bimberi> Steve_J: you don't need to do that.  Hit escape when Grub gives you the option and select recovery mode from the menu
[02:08] <omeil> has anyone set up cdemu properly with the scripts? mine aren't workin
[02:08] <TheLighty> how can I add addition IP's to the Ubuntu 6.10 server
[02:08] <ikonia_> Steve_J you've been given the exit commands, boot in recovery mode and do password $your_user_name then it will reset your password
[02:08] <Steve_J> ok bimbari
[02:08] <Steve_J> so I hit recovery then what
[02:08] <Pici> Steve_J: Just do a hard reboot to get out of there, it wont change the settings
[02:08] <ikonia_> Steve_J your not listening
[02:09] <Pici> ikonia_: He wants to learn, let him try
[02:09] <ikonia_> Pici but he's not listening
[02:09] <Steve_J> I am listening but this is all VERY VERY new to me
[02:09] <Pici> ikonia_: Since he doesnt have anything installed, it wont hurt to mess it up
[02:09] <ikonia_> Pici oooh agree with that
[02:09] <Steve_J> I am trying to follow you all
[02:09] <Don_Juan> I just got a x60 with ubuntu pre-installed but the gigabit connection seems to fail. Any hints?
[02:09] <bimberi> Steve_J: if should boot to a command line with a # prompt
[02:10] <ikonia_> Steve_J boot the box - on the grub menu select Recovery mode - then when you get a console prompt to "passwd $your_username" and it will reset the password to what you type
[02:10] <ikonia_> bimberi excellent call on recovery mode
[02:10] <Steve_J> ok, I think I understand I will try that now
[02:10] <yrtw6er> Don jaun, what exactly is your hardware
[02:11] <ailean> how do i install a true type font?
[02:11] <Vaalth> Pici : how do i install those cd burning apps? i tried apt-get install but it couldnt find them
[02:11] <Don_Juan> yrtw6er: can I type any commands to list it?
[02:11] <TheLighty> how can I add addition IP's to the Ubuntu 6.10 server
[02:12] <Pici> Vaalth: Which apps?
[02:12] <yrtw6er> yes, try "lspci"
[02:12] <ailean> !fonts
[02:12] <Slart> ailean: isn't there something in the menues about fonts?
[02:12] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[02:12] <ailean> Slart, yeah, but it lets you select them, not install them
[02:12] <Vaalth> brasseros and gnomebaker
[02:12] <ailean> Slart, i think i just have to shove it in a folder somewhere
[02:13] <Vaalth> Pici : sorry, just noticed that was someone else that suggested it :P
[02:13] <Vaalth> Slart : you know how i can install them?
[02:13] <Pici> Vaalth: You'll need to enable the universe repositories, /msg ubotu universe for information how
[02:13] <Don_Juan> yrtw6er: it says: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[02:13] <bimberi> ikonia_: I should know it.  It was a recipe that I got into the Ubuntu Book! ;)
[02:14] <Slart> ailean: there is a folder.. try typing fonts:/// in nautilus
[02:14] <Slart> Vaalth: hmm.. hold on.. I'll check
[02:14] <ikonia_> bimberi I would have gone the old root mouonting the file systems and editing the shadow file etc etc
[02:14] <ikonia_> bimberi hence why I thought you made an excellent call
[02:14] <eilker> suddenly i have no sound in pc....any help ?
[02:14] <yrtw6er> ok...I'm sorry don't have any experience with anything Intel..
[02:14] <vitorneves> hi there, Can someone help me with installing ubuntu on a sata 2 hard drive. The installation cannot recognize the hard drive
[02:14] <ailean> Slart, thanks
[02:15] <ikonia_> vitorneves its more likley it can't recognise the chipset the drive hangs off
[02:15] <Slart> Vaalth: gnome baker is in the "Add/Remove Applications" thingy in the applications menu
[02:15] <vitorneves> it's a new acerpower f6
[02:15] <Slart> Vaalth: in accessories
[02:15] <vitorneves> mandriva recognizes it
[02:15] <omeil> vitorneves:have you tried changing the RAID setting to IDE in your BIOS if u have one that is
[02:16] <vitorneves> but mandriva sucks
[02:16] <ailean> Slart, got it - it's in through /usr/share/fonts
[02:16] <ikonia_> vitorneves that doesn't mean ubuntu will but I take your point
[02:16] <Slart> ailean: ah.. and you can just put your tff-files there?
[02:16] <_james> hello i need help. .i just installed the crossover 6 final and i don't know hot to use it. what is the run command?
[02:16] <TheLighty> how can I add addition IP's to the Ubuntu 6.10 server
[02:16] <ikonia_> !crossover >_james
[02:16] <Slart> _james: I think there is a crossover channel
[02:16] <ailean> Slart, yep]
[02:16] <Slart> ailean: nice
[02:17] <vitorneves> yes I've tried to change the bios but IDE option is not available (I think)
[02:17] <ailean> Slart, there are different folders for different file types, so obviously just select the correct one - ttf in this case
[02:17] <TheLighty> can anyone help, how do I add addition IP's to the Ubuntu 6.10 server
[02:17] <eshaase> what gstreamer plugin is recommended to install for mp3 playback?
[02:17] <Slart> ailean: ah.. I see it now.. yes
[02:17] <omeil> vitorneves: better check. because if u can set the RAID to IDE it is supposed to work
[02:17] <eshaase> seems like there are quite a few of them
[02:17] <ikonia_> TheLighty add them in the gui or in the /etc/interfaces file
[02:17] <omeil> because it will think its just a standard drive
[02:17] <Vaalth> Slart : i dont see it in there
[02:17] <Steve_J> Nearly have this sorted I think, does a password have to be a minimum length
[02:17] <vitorneves> ok, thanks I will double check it
[02:18] <Slart> Vaalth: hmm.. were you on 6.06? or 6.10?
[02:18] <ikonia_> Steve_J type what you want, it will tell you if its unusable
[02:18] <TheLighty> omeil I looked in there but not sure how to add
[02:18] <Vaalth> im on 5.04 :/
[02:18] <Vaalth> trying to burn 6.10 to a cd and install it
[02:18] <eki1> nothing like thegood old days..;)
[02:18] <Slart> Vaalth: ouch.. 5.04.. I wasn't even using linux back then.. =/..
[02:18] <omeil> TheLighty: looked in where? the scripts? i got the script to show mount and unmount in my right click but they won't do anything :D
[02:19] <quiet> Ubuntu has a nice big article in my newest Eweek. :)
[02:19] <_james> Slart:  what is a crossover channel?
[02:19] <TheLighty> sorry not you
[02:19] <TheLighty> [ikonia_]
[02:19] <Slart> Vaalth: try "sudo apt-get install gnomebaker"
[02:19] <Slart> _james: a irc-channel for crossover users.. like this is a channel for ubuntu users
[02:19] <TheLighty> ikonia_ I have looked in there and not sure how to add the IP's
[02:19] <Vaalth> i tried that :(
[02:19] <quiet> i remember 5.04...
[02:19] <ikonia_> TheLighty use the gui
[02:19] <quiet> good times.
[02:20] <TheLighty> I tried and could not access it by remote
[02:20] <ikonia_> TheLighty use the /etc/interfaces file as a template and add new ip's
[02:20] <Slart> Vaalth: now I'm beginning to understand why you were using cdrecord =)
[02:20] <TheLighty> I only have remote access to it
[02:20] <ikonia_> ok - so the /etc/interfaces file is what you need
[02:20] <TheLighty> you have a link that shows examples
[02:20] <quiet> oh... here's the web-based version of the article I was referring to. -  http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2098141,00.asp
[02:21] <VII> Hiya
[02:21] <Vaalth> at first i couldnt even get into x lol
[02:21] <Slart> Vaalth: what is that version called? warty?
[02:21] <VII> After Ive typed in my password on the login-screen, it gets black for a second, and then Im back at the login screen!
[02:21] <Vaalth> hoary
[02:21] <TheLighty> ikonia_ you have a link that would show examples of additional IP's
[02:22] <ikonia_> TheLighty use the file as a template
[02:22] <Vaalth> hm... someone said something about doing a console-based install
[02:22] <Vaalth> is that the same as a regular install except without the gui?
[02:22] <eki1> yes
[02:22] <erUSUL> !alternate > Vaalth
[02:22] <ikonia_> how strange I don't have an interfaces file on my laptop
[02:23] <Slart> Vaalth: there's some alternatives.. cdrtoaster is one
[02:23] <TheLighty> hmm
[02:23] <Vaalth> ty :)
[02:23] <ikonia_> TheLighty sorry it /etc/network/interfaces
[02:24] <Slart> Vaalth: I looked here http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/allpackages and searched for burn.. there are lots of cd burning packages.. there's bound to be one that works
[02:24] <VII> After Ive typed in my password on the login-screen, it gets black for a second, and then Im back at the login screen! I might add: I dont get an eroor message like when I enter the wrong info.
[02:24] <eki1> VII:look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[02:25] <ComputerHermit> !bastille
[02:25] <ubotu> bastille: Security hardening tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.1.1-12 (edgy), package size 358 kB, installed size 1508 kB
[02:26] <Steve_J> Its me again with lost password problem, I have done the exact commands you all gave me, the commands worked, in that is said my password was changed successfully, but when I go to log into Ubuntu it still says I have the wrong unsername or password, any other ideas (besides re-insal)
[02:27] <finalbeta> You are sure your keyboard in in the same layout when you set up the password and when you are asked for it?
[02:27] <Vaalth> hmm
[02:27] <VII> ekil: ok
[02:28] <Vaalth> i have an amd athlon 64
[02:28] <ComputerHermit> sudo passwd root
[02:28] <TheLighty> ikonia_ I have the first IP in there, but how do I add more IP's
[02:28] <Vaalth> can i run the x86 version?
[02:28] <calraith> What's the name of the executable used to launch the VNC / RDP client for remote desktop?
[02:28] <VII> ekil: how do I do that from the logn screen?
[02:28] <Slart> Vaalth: if it doesn't need any fancy libraries you usually can
[02:28] <erstazi> if you are using letters and numbers (hopefully you are), make sure your num lock is on
[02:28] <eki1> you can't....
[02:28] <Steve_J> My keyboard setup should be the same I have not been able to login since install to change it
[02:29] <eki1> go " ctrl+alt+f2"and log in from there
[02:29] <Steve_J> and my chosen user name and pass are two simple words
[02:29] <erstazi> character set?
[02:29] <erstazi> what character set did you choose?
[02:29] <Steve_J> unicode?
[02:29] <eki1> V11 then look through that log for the problem
[02:30] <varka> calraith: vncviewer <host>
[02:30] <varka> calraith: vncviewer <host>:<display#>
[02:31] <calraith> varka: that's not quite what I'm looking for.  The default install of Ubuntu / Gnome has a GUI for rdesktop and vnc combined into one app
[02:31] <jaycie-away> can someone tell me what wireless card i can buy to use with edubuntu or ubuntu?
[02:31] <calraith> just trying to figure out what to apt-get install on my ubuntu server to get that same app
[02:31] <jaycie-away> i can't get usb wireless to work
[02:31] <erstazi> did you try logging with root?
[02:32] <Frost^-> Is there a utility for viewing applications I/O usage (like top but for I/O)?
[02:32] <gordonjcp> jaycie-away: surprisingly enough, pretty much the cheapest card you can find...
[02:32] <ikonia_> jaycie-away a supported one, check the hardware compatability lists and google
[02:32] <eki1> jaycie: have you tryed ndiswrapper?
[02:32] <jaycie-away> ikonia what do u mean.. list off the card itself?
[02:32] <Steve_J> Okay I give up, I'm going to re-instal, thanks for all your help, at least I learned something new about Ubuntu
[02:33] <erstazi> Steve_J
[02:33] <eki1> sorry we couldn't help more
[02:33] <gordonjcp> jaycie-away: cards based on the Ralink chipset *always* work
[02:33] <erstazi> Steve_J: did you try logging with root?
[02:33] <jaycie-away> eki1 o i have not.. i just use the usb adapter and so far didn't work
[02:33] <ikonia_> jaycie-away there are hardware compatability lists for supported chipsets - buy a card with a supported chipset
[02:33] <TheLighty> can someone help me with adding IP's to Unbuntu 6.10 server
[02:33] <Steve_J> I tried the word "root" as the username but it would not allow me to use it
[02:33] <gordonjcp> jaycie-away: atheros seems good too
[02:33] <ikonia_> TheLighty I've told you what to do
[02:33] <eki1> jaycie: if you are using x86 version of Ubuntu,Ndiswrapper is almostgarunteed to work..
[02:33] <Frogzoo> TheLighty: virtual IPs or real interfaces?
[02:33] <TheLighty> no you did not
[02:34] <VII> eki1: what was the command to see the log again?
[02:34] <TheLighty> I need an example
[02:34] <ikonia_> eki1 is ndis that good these days
[02:34] <arn_> Why "www.ubuntu.com" is not working?
[02:34] <ikonia_> TheLighty there are examples in the file
[02:34] <TheLighty> just saying add made the server not connect
[02:34] <jaycie-away> gordonjcp is htat a card? atheros?
[02:34] <eki1> gordon: negative, I've had nothing but trouble with the madwifi-ng
[02:34] <ikonia_> TheLighty there are examples on google
[02:34] <ComputerHermit> anyone here use bastille
[02:34] <ikonia_> ComputerHermit on hupx - yes
[02:34] <ikonia_> ComputerHermit hpux
[02:34] <Selaiah> Hey there! SOUND QUESTION: I have a A8N-SLI with realtek onboard sound. It works out of the box with Edgy. However I'm using a X-FI Music on my Windows Partition now, which is sadly not supported under linux. Now I have the problem that my onboard sound does not work under Ubuntu anymore either! Seeing I don't want to have to unplug the X-FI everytime i log in ubuntu (wanting, and try to use it as main OS) I would greatly appreaciate if one of
[02:34] <eki1> ikonia: it works everytime i've tried it...
[02:35] <ComputerHermit> Iam getting a error message
[02:35] <ikonia_> eki1 sounds like its moved on a lot
[02:35] <TheLighty> Frogzoo they are real IP's
[02:35] <VII> eki1: what was the command to see the log again?
[02:35] <ikonia_> TheLightyhe means virtual on a nic or on a real nic
[02:35] <Don_Juan> when I say: lsmod | grep e1000 is says: e1000   124440   0
[02:35] <Steve_J> erstazi : I tried the word "root" as the username but itwould not allow me to use it
[02:35] <eki1> "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[02:35] <jaycie-away> x86 i don't even knwo what that is.. im not good at pc stuff just don't like windows lol
[02:36] <TheLighty> real
[02:36] <ikonia_> Steve_J just re-install
[02:36] <eki1> yes... root login is disabled by default
[02:36] <ikonia_> TheLighty google for the interfaces file - or use the examples in the file
[02:36] <ikonia_> TheLighty there should be examples in the file if it is on the network
[02:36] <jaycie> the pc is an older dell
[02:36] <VII> eki1: th
[02:36] <erstazi> Steve_J: I would re-install
[02:36] <VII> thx
[02:36] <Steve_J> ye looks like it
[02:36] <gordonjcp> jaycie: atheros is the name of a chipset inside a card, as is Atmel
[02:36] <Steve_J> thanks for all your help
[02:36] <eki1> yeah....reinstall(sounds like windows..haha)
[02:36] <Steve_J> good day to you all
[02:36] <dyrne> Selaiah: might work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=366662
[02:36] <jaycie> ok gordonjcp
[02:37] <gordonjcp> jaycie: lots of manufacturers use the same chips in their cards
[02:37] <erstazi> don't get me started about M$
[02:37] <Selaiah> Will have a look thanks Dyrne.
[02:37] <erstazi> Steve_J: No problem
[02:37] <jaycie> does anyone here use usb wireless with ubuntu?
[02:37] <jaycie> i will be glad to buy an internal card if that simplifies things
[02:37] <ComputerHermit> funny realy
[02:38] <ikonia_> jaycie I personally don't like them and I think the drivers are weak as a general rule of thumb
[02:38] <erstazi> ikonia_: agreed
[02:38] <olofant> searching person with gnome & ethernet per Router
[02:38] <jaycie> ikonia thats y i will buy the card but wanted to know a brand thats tested and i will have to buy online
[02:39] <Selaiah> jaycie: I bought a WRT54GL router and flashe dit with a special firmware. Its now working as a wireless bridge with my main router.  I just tried to install edgy-386 on a mate's machine, and it gets 'logical block' errors on /dev/hda - which stops the installer starting - any idea how to combat this? Already unplugged all USB (bar keyboard/mouse) in case that was a problem
[02:39] <Frogzoo> TheLighty: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-networking-configuration-using-command-line.html
[02:39] <erstazi> what firmware did you use?
[02:39] <Selaiah> dd-wrt
[02:39] <olofant> someone here with ethernet per router?
[02:39] <erstazi> ty
[02:40] <jaycie> i can't plug in.. i have to use wireless and i talked to linksys and they don't support any cards i think
[02:40] <fnf> ph8: are you sure the HDD is working ?
[02:40] <Selaiah> Why do you HAVE to us ewireless Jaycie?
[02:40] <ikonia_> jaycie thats why I told you to searc for hardware compatible lists to show the cards
[02:40] <Selaiah> ive read good results from ppl with netgear WPN111 or something
[02:40] <jaycie> Selaiah router is upstairs and this ubuntu pc will be downstairs
[02:40] <Selaiah> yes Jaycie thats why i suggested buying a 2nd router ;P read again please
[02:41] <jaycie> 2nd router?
[02:41] <Selaiah> you basicly connect both routers wirelessly, and put the 2nd next to your comp.
[02:41] <jaycie> hm
[02:41] <Selaiah> then you connect ur pc with ethernet to the 2nd router
[02:41] <ikonia_> or just by a repeater
[02:41] <Selaiah> that way you have to make NO setup at all.
[02:41] <ikonia_> which is a bit of kit designed for that purpose
[02:41] <eki1> or you could get one of those gaming adapters...
[02:41] <Caithness> where is xchat's userlist?
[02:41] <ikonia_> Caithness you hover over it
[02:41] <Caithness> i'm using 2.6.6 on edgy
[02:41] <ph8> fnf: Windows boots off it
[02:41] <erstazi> can I submit a link to jaycie?
[02:42] <ph8> fnf: Although that could mean anything :-)
[02:42] <jaycie> yes plz do erstazi
[02:42] <Caithness> hover over which now?
[02:42] <erstazi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD-WRT
[02:42] <jaycie> i hate to buy another router.. linux does not make it so simple for newbies lol
[02:42] <ph8> i'm about to try feisty herd 5 - desktop - but do you think that will fix it?
[02:42] <erstazi> jaycie: that was the quickest thing I found
[02:42] <blue|palm> help: I left my kubuntu pc on last night while it was downloading a torrent, and at about 3:pm today i tried to resume using it but kde froze. I then reset my x server with CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE and now i cant login using kdm anymore. kdm starts and I can enter my username and password, but when i hit enter the screen goes black and kdm just restarts
[02:42] <Caithness> u'm used to using xchat aqua where the userlist is on the right
[02:42] <erstazi> linux does, its community
[02:42] <Caithness> but there's nothing there in the ubuntu version i just installed
[02:42] <fnf> ph8: it sometimes is caused by non-standard/bad drive controller. Just to be sure, add "hda=noprobe" to the kernel parameters or unplug your HDD to see if it works.
[02:43] <Selaiah> buying a new router is not significiently more epxneisve than buying a proper wlan card tho Jaycie :D
[02:43] <pubo> hi all
[02:43] <ph8> cheers
[02:43] <blue|palm> hi all, what can i do if kdm just restarts when i try to log in?
[02:43] <erstazi> jaycie, Selaiah is correct, some routers are pretty inexpensive now
[02:43] <Selaiah> the Wlan card that I read the most positive results about in regards to compatibility was 45 euro here in germany. The Router thats flashable with flexible linux Firmware was 60 euro :P
[02:43] <eki1> blue|plam : "ctrl+alt+f2" and log in there
[02:43] <fnf> blue|palm: no experience with KDE, but you couls try logging in as other user.
[02:43] <pubo> anybody knows any program like Flashget where I could limit the downloads velocity?? Thx
[02:44] <ikonia_> blue|palm possibly out of disk space in your home dir or no write support
[02:44] <arn_> is there any file transferring program for ubuntu? i mean "winscp" type program that will connect to server using as a SSH client
[02:44] <ikonia_> arn_ scp
[02:44] <arn_> ok
[02:44] <blue|palm> eki1, my flgrx drivers screws up the CTRL+ALT+F terminals
[02:44] <Selaiah> jaycie: And just remember. once its running its running. Mac OS, Windows, Linux, new kernal reinstall.. its all running, you never have to install wpa supplicant or enter any passwords again or worry about drivers. All you need is onboard ethernet. :D
[02:44] <eki1> really? doesn't do that for me...
[02:44] <blue|palm> ikonia_, thanks
[02:44] <erstazi> Selaiah: I have seen your set up before but I have never attempted it. I shall try it this weekend.
[02:44] <blue|palm> ikonia_, I am low on disk space at present
[02:45] <ikonia_> blue|palm thats one of the most common causes.
[02:45] <erstazi> Selaiah: is it secure?
[02:45] <blue|palm> ikonia_ I had no idea thanks again
[02:45] <eki1> what about under session in KDM, select "console login"
[02:45] <Caithness> ikonia_, i don't know what i'm supposed to be hovering over; the channel tab?
[02:45] <Selaiah> Yeah i can definately recommend it erstazi. I have installed it at a friends and hes running 3 consoles and a comp on it now with good results to throughput and ping
[02:45] <blue|palm> eki1, i can get to a console login
[02:45] <eki1> ok.... then log in there...
[02:45] <blue|palm> eki1, ill just delete some junk :)
[02:45] <ikonia_> Caithness you hover over it right click and there is something that says list users or show users
[02:45] <eki1> ok
[02:45] <ikonia_> I don't have xchat at the moment so can't check
[02:45] <Selaiah> erstazi: the maximum encryption u can do with wireless bridge is WPA/AES and with cliennt bridge its WPA2/AES. Thats as secure as it gets.
[02:45] <pubo> please, I', trying to find a flashget like program which I can limit the download velocity. Anybody knows one??
[02:45] <blue|palm> eki1, if that is the problem
[02:46] <eki1> could very easily be...
[02:46] <erstazi> Selaiah: does the firmware have MAC address allowance?
[02:46] <blue|palm> thanks and bye
[02:46] <TheLighty> [Frogzoo]  thanx