[00:00] <amenado> Icemansan-> try it
[00:00] <prince_jammys> ubuntu compatible gamepad
[00:00] <mandrig> Can anyone help me with my sound?
[00:00] <AntiUSA> i've been googling my ass off man
[00:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Traveler8, Please try to add some more detail to your question.
[00:00] <icesword> amenado, k
[00:01] <jaloriojalorio> ggg
[00:01] <purepwnage> AntiUSA: search for gamepad on these pages: http://linuxconsole.sourceforge.net/input/hardware.html http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Hardware-HOWTO/other.html
[00:01] <eguzkia> hello i have problem i cannot surf in internet
[00:02] <eguzkia> but i can use p2p progams
[00:02] <Traveler8> Jack_Sparrow, ok sorry : i want to share my internet connexion from a xp whit a boardcom card bcm43xxx to an ubuntu with intet wifi card (i dont have AP so i have to use adhoc)
[00:02] <eguzkia> someone can help me
[00:02] <purepwnage> AntiUSA: I would recommend searching the forums for what not to buy if all else fails
[00:02] <TalikA> :D
[00:02] <TalikA> me fucky fucky Fatima Zahra
[00:02] <TalikA> me fucky fucky Jesus' mom
[00:02] <TalikA> :)
[00:02] <prince_jammys> AntiUSA: form the looks of it it seems that a lot are compatible.  you're right though, it's not easy to find an actual list
[00:02] <purepwnage> AntiUSA: an example search would be "gamepad problems"
[00:03] <Ax-Ax> i need help with cli.. how do i tell find to delete all folders (with conten) with the name "a" in a folder?
[00:03] <purepwnage> AntiUSA: http://linuxgamingtoday.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/install-and-use-usb-based-gamepads-in-ubuntu/ may help
[00:03] <Traveler8> rm a* ?
[00:03] <gribouille> hi
[00:04] <gribouille> does the version of openoffice distributed by ubuntu differ from the original ?
[00:04] <AntiUSA> thanks man, that is very helpful
[00:05] <Traveler8> need help: i want to share my internet connexion from a xp whit a boardcom card bcm43xxx to an ubuntu with intet wifi card (i dont have AP so i have to use adhoc)
[00:05] <prince_jammys> AntiUSA: go to the store, see one you like and then IN the store google "ubuntu model_of_gamepad" to double check :)
[00:06] <iRRVi> <-------- back
[00:06] <AntiUSA> i'm ordering online prince ;)
[00:06] <prince_jammys> ah, even easier
[00:06] <AntiUSA> i was hoping to find one that is really high quality like the Saitek P3200
[00:07] <iRRVi> how do i compile a kernel module i made myself? I am following a guide but when i run "make" it gives me errors about unknown processor family
[00:07] <bloody`> hey guys ,my laptop just froze, xubuntu, does it in ubuntu, for no reason i know of.
[00:08] <ompaul> bloody`, check your ram with a live cd and memtest
[00:08] <bloody`> I did, its fine. just bought it, too.
[00:08] <Traveler8> need help: i want to share my internet connexion from a xp whit a boardcom card bcm43xxx to an ubuntu with intet wifi card (i dont have AP so i have to use adhoc).
[00:08] <bloody`> runs vista fine(ram whore)
[00:08] <beast> is there any way i can get my atheros wireless card working in ubuntu 7.10 gutsy???
[00:08] <AntiUSA> JESUS! man, someone of these gamepads look like theyshouldn't exist
[00:08] <iRRVi> bloody`: ctrl+alt+backspace ?
[00:08] <ompaul> !language
[00:08] <ubotu> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[00:09] <bloody`> irrvi: doesn't work. need to hold my power button
[00:09] <purepwnage> AntiUSA: yeah :P There's this pathetic joystick thing I saw at a store, you clip it to your keyboard over top of the directional arrow keys
[00:09] <bloody`> irrvi: it also lags at boot, takes a few mins to boot
[00:09] <AntiUSA> hahahahah
[00:09] <iRRVi> bloody`: don't know mine does that too sometimes...and i'd bet some driver isnt compat with you laptop
[00:10] <beast> is there any way i can get my atheros wireless card working in ubuntu 7.10 gutsy???
[00:10] <bloody`> can I check logs ? or make my boot not lag?
[00:10] <NinjaPlimsoles> bloody`, check which logs?
[00:10] <bloody`> any?
[00:10] <bloody`> to see why its freezing?
[00:10] <D-Unit> Jack_Sparrow, its the default drivers there and it works for me 2 but for a certain period of time; it could be days or like 30 minutes
[00:11] <prince_jammys> AntiUSA: yeah that model you mentioned seems riskier since it's brand new
[00:11] <gribouille> does the version of openoffice distributed by ubuntu differ from the original ?
[00:11] <bloody`> grib: no
[00:11] <AntiUSA> yah none of the pads I want look like they are supported
[00:12] <AntiUSA> this sucks
[00:12] <NinjaPlimsoles> bloody`, boot with the -v flag and it will display all the steps its doing to boot your system
[00:12] <physioman> they aren;t so advanced coders to even imagine to edit openoffice just for their ubuntu thingie
[00:12] <bloody`> just add -v to the end of the line in grub?
[00:12] <NinjaPlimsoles> bloody`, just hit F2 as its booting
[00:13] <bloody`> and what about the freezing?
[00:13] <ryan_mandelbaum> how do i get gnash to work in fiesty ppc
[00:13] <bloody`> thanks, and the freezing?
[00:13] <arcad3> hi i use ubuntu server as router ...iptables with masquerade rule does not work please give me alternatives
[00:13] <NinjaPlimsoles> bloody`, youll then see why its freezing and we can help you further :)
[00:13] <purepwnage> NinjaPlimsoles: iirc f2 for verbose was disabled ubuntu boot
[00:13] <bloody`> it doesn't freeze at boot, it just lags
[00:13] <bloody`> it frezzes when im running in a gui
[00:13] <NinjaPlimsoles> bloody`, lags? O.o
[00:14] <arcad3> hi i use ubuntu server as router ...iptables with masquerade rule does not work please give me alternatives
[00:14] <bloody`> yes, it takes about 4 mins to boot
[00:14] <n2diy>  Firefox locked up on me, what's the command to kill it?
[00:14] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles: hey i finally just went ahead and formatted my internal HD into 2 paritions and used one for XP and one for Ubuntu since i found out my laptop doesnt allow 'boot from usb' which could explain our problem. But do you have a list of good apps for Linux and/or how to actually install stuff in linux?
[00:14] <Starnestommy> n2diy: try kill $(pidof firefox-bin)
[00:14] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, LOL! nice to see you back dude! so THATS why you had error 21?
[00:14] <bloody`> n2: killall firefox will work
[00:14] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles:  haha yeah
[00:14] <llama123456789> hi
[00:14] <bloody`> sudo'd
[00:15] <n2diy> thanks
[00:15] <hitme> good evening
[00:15] <arcad3> nobody can help me?
[00:15] <llama123456789> i love to lick penis
[00:15] <Seeker`> !ops | llama123456789
[00:15] <ubotu> llama123456789: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow or nickrud!
[00:15] <iRRVi> anyone know why i cant compile my hello world module? gives me errors about unknown processor family and stuff
[00:15] <hitme> omg where i joined here ...
[00:15] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles: so simple, yet so hard to detect
[00:15] <Jack_Sparrow> bloody`, Remove quiet and splash and look to see where it is lagging on boot.  Do the other things suggested to see why it is freezing.  Your experience is not normal.  Line after line complaining about freezing does not help you or us to help you
[00:15] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, you can install stuff in Linux by either downloading a Ubuntu .deb file, or use apt-get in a terminal emulator :)
[00:16] <arcad3> hi i use ubuntu server as router ...iptables with masquerade rule does not work please give me alternatives
[00:16] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, you can even install .rpm's :)
[00:16] <bloody`> jack: thanks, will do
[00:16] <ryan_mandelbaum> how do i get gnash to work in fiesty ppc
[00:16] <ompaul> !hi | hitme
[00:16] <orudie> uwhich command is used for setting permissions for users ?
[00:16] <ubotu> hitme: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[00:16] <arcad3> !ipmasq
[00:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipmasq - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:16] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles:  thanks, do u have any websites on "linux for idiots" and any for good apps for linux
[00:17] <arcad3> !iptables
[00:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[00:17] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles:  for example a good IRC program (since i'm using chatzilla right now)
[00:17] <orudie> !chmod
[00:17] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[00:17] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, i personally use X-chat for IRC stuff
[00:17] <ryan_mandelbaum> orudie, go to the terminal and do "sudo nautilus"
[00:17] <arcad3> ogh
[00:17] <n2diy> killall firefox didn't work, how do I find the pid?
[00:17] <ompaul> orudie, that was bad advice
[00:17] <arcad3> how can i share my inet connection from an ubuntu server?
[00:17] <ompaul> ryan_mandelbaum, please never suggest that again thanks
[00:18] <iRRVi> anyone know why i cant compile my hello world module? gives me errors about unknown processor family and stuff
[00:18] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, 'good apps' is very subjective to my personal taste :) open source is all about choice! so embrace being able to choose
[00:18] <orudie> ompaul: how can i edit user permissions then ?
[00:18] <arcad3> chown
[00:18] <hitme> hmm is anz1 to help a mythbuntu/ubuntu n00b some ?
[00:18] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles:  okay thats why i was wondering on the whole install thing cause i was having issues installing x chat earlier
[00:18] <ompaul> orudie, chown as arcad3 said
[00:18] <ryan_mandelbaum> how do i get gnash to work in fiesty ppc
[00:18] <PriceChild> ryan_mandelbaum: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[00:19] <orudie> ompaul: huh ?
[00:19] <Seeker`> hitme: I think the mythtv help channel is #ubuntu-mythtv
[00:19] <hitme> i am there also
[00:19] <ompaul> orudie, sudo chown if you have to - never touch the ones outside your own home directory - you will break your system -- man chown https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[00:19] <hitme> but i think i also have fome general problems
[00:19] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, what kind of issues? :)
[00:19] <hitme> nor myth specific
[00:19] <eatatjoes2> i went to xchat website
[00:20] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles: then clicked the "fedora/linux" and all the rpms are dead links i think?
[00:20] <arcad3> ipmqsq should make the roting and internet sharing for me...
[00:20] <Seeker`> !ask | hitme
[00:20] <ubotu> hitme: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[00:20] <ompaul> eatatjoes2, fedora applications are offtopic for here thanks
[00:20] <hitme> like: resolution jumping back on every reboot, german layout dosn|T stay, dvb-t card problems(saa7134)
[00:20] <NinjaPlimsoles> ompaul, please crawl back under your rock and dont topicjump.... 2nd time
[00:21] <hitme> system is ubuntu 8.04 aplha
[00:21] <bloody`> jack: well removing spash and quiet from grub sped it up to normal speed. now for the freezing? which logs could I check for errors?
[00:21] <hitme> (i think)
[00:21] <arcad3> is there any .deb or some soft that.s gonna help me?
[00:21] <arcad3> to share my interenet connectoin?
[00:21] <Jack_Sparrow> NinjaPlimsoles, PLease stop that
[00:21] <Jack_Sparrow> bloody`, dmesg   I think.. but that isnt my area...
[00:22] <Seeker`> hitme: what version does it say in System-> About Ubuntu
[00:22] <arcad3> !damn
[00:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about damn - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:22] <orudie> ompaul: how can i quit from man chown ?
[00:22] <iRRVi> anyone know why i cant compile my hello world module? gives me errors about unknown processor family and stuff
[00:22] <ompaul> orudie, ctrl c
[00:23] <darkcrab> i have a question, every now and again i will go to close my browser window, and it will log me out of gnome. any ideas?
[00:23] <Starnestommy> orudie: type q?
[00:23] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles:  i keep getting a "XML Parsing Error: syntax error"
[00:23] <prince_jammys> orudie: Q
[00:23] <darkcrab> actually its any windows
[00:23] <iRRVi> orudie: hit q
[00:23] <Jack_Sparrow> bloody`, dmesg | grep ee          seems close to what might work
[00:23] <hitme> Ubuntu 8.04
[00:24] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, dont mind the trolls, they appear every now and again and jump on people for illegitimate reasons :)
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !hardy
[00:24] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[00:24] <Seeker`> hitme: 8.04 isn't officially supported yet
[00:24] <arcad3> so ..nobody can help me with 2 line of code...
[00:24] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, try using sudo apt-get install xchat from a terminal
[00:24] <pstv> does anyone know how to install beryl?
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !beryl
[00:24] <ubotu> Beryl has been merged with Compiz to form Compiz-Fusion.  New Beryl installs are discouraged. See also !compiz
[00:24] <gribouille> does the version of openoffice distributed by ubuntu differ from the original ?
[00:24] <rhineheart_m> mmmm... poor ubotu....doesn't know about damn.. hehehehe... please respect the bot :)
[00:24] <hitme> well 7.10 i can not install .. only getting out of range while first boot
[00:24] <pstv> Jack_Sparrow: Yes
[00:24] <arcad3> i want to use iptables to share my interent connection
[00:24] <arcad3> who can help me
[00:24] <Jack_Sparrow> rhineheart_m, No one in here will know
[00:24] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles:  haha thanks, but i cant even download stuff keep getting "XML Parsing Error: syntax error" when i click any downloads
[00:24] <orudie> does this look like correct syntax ? sudo chown pmishuk /var/www
[00:25] <NinjaPlimsoles> eatatjoes2, thats more than likely the site you're downloading from
[00:25] <bloody`> jack: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58816/
[00:25] <arcad3> chown username:username /var/www
[00:25] <pstv> Why is that
[00:25] <eatatjoes2> NinjaPlimsoles:  okay
[00:25] <bloody`> jack: no error :\
[00:25] <cube> !offtopic
[00:25] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[00:25] <pstv> Jack_Sparrow: why is that?
[00:25] <Seeker`> hitme: As Hardy is in testing, you wont get support here, because the software isn't stable yet - try #ubuntu+1
[00:25] <prince_jammys> orudie: that's ok
[00:25] <Jack_Sparrow> pstv, Please ask complete question
[00:25] <orudie> tnx all
[00:25] <ompaul> eatatjoes2, that is not how you install, please click on the menu:  system -> adminstration -> synaptic package manager
[00:26] <darkcrab> sometimes I get automatically logged out of gnome and I dont know why, can some help?
[00:26] <pstv> Jack_Sparrow: Why is it that no one in here would not know how to install beryl?
[00:26] <NinjaPlimsoles> ompaul, tomato, tamato
[00:26] <Starnestommy> pstv: try compiz-fusion instead
[00:26] <Jack_Sparrow> pstv, Because it is no longer supported.. read the link
[00:26] <bloody`> jack: any ideas?
[00:27] <pstv> Starnestommy: I already have compiz fusion i also need beryl
 sometimes I get automatically logged out of gnome and I dont know why, can some help?
[00:27] <Jack_Sparrow> bloody`, Did grep for ee show anythin..
[00:27] <bloody`> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58816/
[00:27] <darkcrab> lol no you dont pstv
[00:27] <pstv> Jack_Sparrow: ok I understand now
 sometimes I get automatically logged out of gnome and I dont know why, can some help?
[00:28] <rhineheart_m> I just want to hear comments about nagios in ubuntu server.. Can the people here recommend it for a production server?
[00:28] <prince_jammys> !repeat
[00:28] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[00:28] <pstv> darkcrab: I believe I have comiz fusion..I installed it form synaptic..and was able to do some effects
[00:28] <prince_jammys> darkcrab: when does this happen? randomly?
[00:29] <darkcrab> well it "seems" every so often when I go to close a window
[00:29] <eatatjoes2> hey i'm new to ubuntu can someone walk me through how to install .rpm's?
[00:29] <darkcrab> but not "often" no.
[00:29] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: is there no deb package for what you want?
[00:29] <Jack_Sparrow> eatatjoes2, Bad idea to do that
[00:29] <Seeker`> darkcrab: I think I got something similar with 7.10 and "show desktop" - it would just randomly put me back to the GDM login - its so intermittent, I never bothered searching for help / bugs
[00:29] <stev123> ptsv try this link for berylhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130923-page,1-c,linux/article.htmlhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130923-page,1-c,linux/article.html
[00:30] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  not that i know of, trying to install xchat
[00:30] <darkcrab> yup, that is what it does Seeker.
[00:30] <prince_jammys> !info xchat
[00:30] <ubotu> xchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.4-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 300 kB, installed size 808 kB
[00:30] <mandrig> Can someone help me with installing ALSA?
[00:30] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: you don't need rpm for that
[00:30] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: sudo apt-get install xchat
[00:31] <talonz> anyone else getting a reading error when trying to connect to msn ?
[00:31] <bluefox83> nope
[00:32] <talonz> i tried amsn kopete and pidgin and they all arnt connecting :S
[00:32] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  it gives me an error "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:32] <eatatjoes2> E: Unable to lock the download directory"
[00:32] <talonz> but i can connect through a web messenger eg iloveim
[00:32] <rhineheart_m> eatatjoes2: I will restart and box and try to do it again...
[00:32] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: do you have any package managers open? (synaptic, add/remove, or a terminal running aptitude)
[00:32] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: if you do, close them
[00:32] <Starnestommy> talonz: is your firewall, router, or ISP blocking msn?
[00:33] <mandrig> Can someone help me with installing ALSA?
[00:33] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  not that i know of but im a total noob to ubuntu, just installed it today
[00:33] <talonz> firewall and router no isp i dont know ill have to give them a call
[00:33] <D-Unit> i like the default looks and everything of ubuntu but i wanna change the orange colour to another colour like black?...how would i do that? downlaod a human black theme? were is it?
[00:33] <ompaul> eatatjoes2, log out and back in again - then try it
[00:33] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: ok, if you don't have any package management apps open, paste the following command
[00:34] <prince_jammys> !aptfix | eatatjoes2
[00:34] <ubotu> eatatjoes2: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[00:34] <mandrig> my /lib/cpp fail sanity check
[00:34] <karuna_bdc> how come i dont get mucic in any linux games?
[00:34] <karuna_bdc> or sound
[00:34] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: and then do sudo apt-get install xchat
[00:35] <jester7> are there any negatives to using the 64-bit version of gutsy?
[00:35] <jester7> anything that doesn't work in 64 that does in 32?
[00:36] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: you MAY need to include the "universe" repository, which you do under System->Admin->Software Sources
[00:36] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  musta had something open
[00:36] <ompaul> jester7, codecs are easier on 32 - i.e. multimedia stuff
[00:36] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  was installing updates for ubuntu and that finished and now its getting xchat
[00:36] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: good. avoid rpm
[00:36] <jester7> ompaul: is there any real advantage to the 64bit?
[00:37] <ompaul> jester7, if you are doing big database material
[00:37] <Wass|> hello
[00:37] <Wass|> bloody` : are you there ?
[00:37] <jester7> ompaul: nah, simply getting a new laptop with amd64 processor
[00:38] <jester7> using it as a standard laptop, nothing special
[00:38] <Echoside> Hello everyone. I'm having a bit of a problem with my xorg.conf. Every time I logout or reboot the computer the settings get messed up.
[00:38] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  i downloaded lm_sensors do u know how i can install that it was a tar.bzz
[00:38] <eatatjoes2> err bz2
[00:38] <ompaul> jester7, then get it and use the 32bit version on it
[00:38] <ompaul> !repos | eatatjoes2
[00:38] <ubotu> eatatjoes2: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[00:39] <jester7> ok, that was the plan :)  i just wanted to make sure i wasn't going to miss out on some awesome super cool feature that isn't there in the 32-bit
[00:39] <Tu13es> i just switched over to xfce and all my fonts look huge. any ideas?  DPI is 96
[00:39] <Tu13es> which is what it should be
[00:39] <gb__> hi guys
[00:39] <prince_jammys> !info lm-sensors
[00:39] <ubotu> lm-sensors (source: lm-sensors): utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.4-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 496 kB, installed size 1520 kB
[00:39] <Wass|> to use a NS  created with bind9 on ubuntu on a  bougth domain name, I must register that NS on a registrar ?
[00:39] <gb__> !htaccess
[00:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about htaccess - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:40] <bloody`> !.htaccess
[00:40] <gb__> anyone working with htaccess files?
[00:40] <Kumool> is there a way i can set a format to specifically open with something?
[00:40] <BadSector> I'm running Ubuntu 7.10, and I have a Nvidia Geforce 6100... I have attempted to use the Restricted Driver the ubuntu suggested for me to use, but it seems to crash the system (screen becomes very messed up after a few mins, as to not be able to read anything).... does anyone here know the fix, or can point me in a good direction for a fix, or if i'm just screwed? :)
[00:40] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: don't download it - it's already in the apt repositories::: sudo apt-get install lm-sensors
[00:40] <ompaul> prince_jammys, they have been advised twice about repos and synaptic
[00:40] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  thanks, sorry for being such a noob
[00:41] <linuxchild> Hello, why i cant install amule now?  An error occured:             W: Failed to fetch http://cn.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/amule/amule-common_2.1.3-3ubuntu1_all.deb
[00:41] <Kumool> is there a way i can set a format to specifically open with something?
[00:41] <linuxchild>   500 Internal Server Error
[00:41] <prince_jammys> ompaul: ok
[00:41] <haskel> how i load
[00:42] <haskel> ip forward module
[00:42] <haskel> to kernel
[00:42] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: if you install this way, it's easier to uninstall and update. only install outside of repositories if you absolutely must
[00:42] <Echoside> Hello everyone. I'm having a bit of a problem with my xorg.conf. Every time I logout or reboot the computer the settings get messed up.
[00:42] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  okay ill have to read up more on repositories , last question how do u find the stuff that u install?
[00:43] <mandrig> I'm getting errors when I make and make install
[00:43] <ompaul> eatatjoes2, it is put in /bin /usr/bin /usr/sbin depending on the package and lots of other places also
[00:44] <bluefox83> Echoside, what are you using to edit the settings?
[00:44] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: you can search for packages with "synaptic" (also with add/remove, but the package list is smaller).  System->Admin->Synaptic.   from a terminal, you can also search using::: apt-cache search mysearchstring (will find packages that contain "mysearchstring")
[00:45] <prince_jammys> !apt | eatatjoes2
[00:45] <ubotu> eatatjoes2: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[00:45] <prince_jammys> !synaptic > eatatjoes2
[00:45] <mexicanbanana> "I was ready to switch from Windows to Ubuntu, but then it wouldn't let me!": http://www.anontalk.com/topic/601
[00:46] <mw-home> My laptop has a microphone jack, and I plugged in a microphone, but I can't record from it.  I'm sure I need to mess with alsamixer, but am getting nowhere.
[00:46] <mexicanbanana> :-(
[00:46] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2:  get acquainted with all that, it's very easy once you're familiar
[00:46] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  thanks a lot, still having a problem finding the lm-sensors but im sure its aorund here somewhere
[00:46] <Praticle> hello, i have steam installed via wine and it works great, when i run a game it opens fine i join a server it downloads all the neccasary  files finishes "sending client info" then closes never to be heard from again (until i try again that is)
[00:47]  * NinjaPlimsoles waves at eatatjoes2
[00:47] <darkcrab> well, i couldnt find anything on the ubuntu forums, anyone have any suggestions on the random logouts to the gdm screen?
[00:47] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: for lm-sensors check this out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780
[00:47] <haskel> i'm starting to think ubuntu is the problem itself
[00:48] <ka2> haskel: what problem?
[00:48] <darkcrab> yea, seems that way
[00:48] <haskel> ipmasq
[00:48] <haskel> shoult share my internet connection
[00:48] <haskel> its not
[00:48] <haskel> tryied all
[00:48] <ka2> haskel: firestarter?
[00:48] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: that seems pretty involved. i don't know what lm-sensors is
[00:48] <haskel> i have ubuntu server
[00:49] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  just looking for a program to monitor cpu temp
[00:49] <haskel> other firewalls? what should i try next?
[00:50] <bluefox83> mexicanbanana, http://www.anontalk.com/topic/601#reply_1755
[00:50] <biabia__> I have a pc, it connects to my wireless network with 64bit wep in windows, but not in ubuntu. i followed the command line setup but dhclient wlan0 doesnt set the ip (yes i tried the gui, also with no luck)
[00:50] <ompaul> !firewalls | haskel
[00:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firewalls - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:50] <ompaul> !firewall | haskel
[00:50] <ubotu> haskel: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[00:50] <haskel> dint helped
[00:51] <|SEF|> Hello, is there a command to check the location of my dvd drive?
[00:51] <bloody`> firestarter is very nice
 well, i couldnt find anything on the ubuntu forums, anyone have any suggestions on the random logouts to the gdm screen?
[00:51]  * bluefox83 stays away from firewall software, the router is more than enough for me :)
[00:51] <bloody`> its very easy to use
[00:51] <bluefox83> darkcrab, whats happening?
[00:52] <darkcrab> every occasionally, I will get logged off back to the login screen.
[00:52] <Praticle> "Start steam by just typing wine Steam.exe after you changed to the directory you installed Steam."... im a linux noob how exactly do i "change to the driectory"?
[00:52] <sidelil> Excuse me I was trying to put on a DVD more then one bootable CD, like ubuntu, kubuntu SuperGrubDisk, RescueSystemCD etc., with a GRUB menu. Do you know what should I write on the menu.lst file in order to boot the right one? Thanks
[00:52] <bluefox83> while you are working, or like..only when you leave the machine idle?
[00:52] <darkcrab> while I am working.
[00:52] <darkcrab> already checked the forum, and couldnt find an answer
[00:53] <|SEF|> Practicle: you type cd nameofdirectory
[00:53] <|SEF|> Practicle: in the terminal
[00:53] <darkcrab> like, I will go to close a window and just as I go to close that window bam I am back at the login screen.
[00:53] <Praticle> |SEF|: oh ok thx
[00:53] <bluefox83> darkcrab, that's rather odd...just to make sure no one is messing with stuff, change your password and don't tell anyone, then look around, make sure you haven't got the logout thing tied to a key combination
[00:54] <|SEF|> Practicle: np :)
[00:54] <BadSector> i'll bb to ask later :)
[00:54] <darkcrab> Its tied to ctrl alt delete, but I know I am not pushing ctrl alt delete.
[00:54] <Seeker`> bluefox83: I sometimes get something similar when my mouse goes near the "show desktop" button
[00:55] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: there's something called "computertemp" :: you can install it with sudo apt-get install computertemp  (by the way, if you ever want to uninstall you do   sudo apt-get remove name_of_package )
[00:55] <prince_jammys> !info computertemp | eatatjoes2
[00:55] <ubotu> eatatjoes2: computertemp (source: computertemp): computer temperature monitor applet for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>-1 (gutsy), package size 50 kB, installed size 452 kB
[00:55] <haskel> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE + ip forward set to 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> up does not work
[00:55] <haskel> other ideas?
[00:55] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  thanks for all the help
[00:56] <snypzz> need to play streaming audio and video with ubuntu
[00:56] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: here are screenshots, etc. but DONT download it from here, use apt. http://computertemp.berlios.de/
[00:56] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  is there a place u find all these programs names?
[00:58] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: i use a combination of synaptic (where you can search with keywords) and google, to get ideas/reviews/screenshots, etc (google: ubuntu cpu temperature, for example)
[00:59] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  okay thanks, last "?" (I swear!) is where can i find computertemp
[00:59] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: it's already at the repositories. all you have to do is:  sudo apt-get install computertemp
[00:59] <dabbill> I installed the startup manager, but removed it, how can i get the default loading screen back?
[00:59] <Echoside> bluefox83, Sorry it took so long to respond. I'm just useing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[00:59] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  i installed it just cant find where to open it at
[01:00] <alfred_> ssh skips a private key i have put in ~/.ssh and the file permissions are 0600. the file isn't listed when i do ssh -v
[01:00] <alfred_> any ideas why?
[01:01] <Echoside> bluefox83, The system finds my card and everything just fine. And when i restart X, all the settings work. But I restart and I lose resolution sizes.
[01:01] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: look around in the menus first, to see if it created an entry.  if it's not there, right click on your desktop panel and see if it appears under "add to panel".  and if it still doesnt show up, do ALT F2 and type "computertemp"
[01:03] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  hmm tried all 3 of those and nothing
[01:04] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: right click on panel, the "add to panel" and under "system and hardware" "computer temperature monitor" -- i just did it
[01:04] <icesword> prince_jammys, hi
[01:05] <prince_jammys> icesword: hello
[01:06] <icesword> hmm
[01:06] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  sorry im still not seeing where u r talkin about
[01:07] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  nevermind, im retarded
[01:07] <Praticle> hi, im trying to use... cd ".wine/drive_c/program files/steam/" am i doing something wrong? because it keeps saying the directory doesnt exist
[01:08] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: which part are you missing?
[01:08] <ghindo> Praticle:  I think it's not working because there's a space in "program files"
[01:08] <ghindo> Praticle:  I'm not sure how to bypass that, though
[01:08] <eatatjoes2> prince_jammys:  nevermind i found it, i just clicked on it to add to panel, is there a way for it to be moved under "applications menu"
[01:08] <iositd> Praticle, there is a space, so add a \ before that, and it is Program Files, watcht he capitals =)
[01:09] <Praticle> iositd: k ill try that
[01:09] <ghindo> iositd:  so it'd be ".wine/drive_c\Program Files/steam/?
[01:09] <iositd> Praticle, it helps using tab completion
[01:09] <anniku989> I have dual boot of ubuntu/vista on same hdd, how do i view my vista partition on ubuntu?
[01:09] <iositd> ghindo, no, escape the space so instead of " " you get "\ "
[01:09] <Praticle> iositd: tab completion?
[01:10] <prince_jammys> eatatjoes2: good question, i don't know. i don't normally use gnome, i use kde (kubuntu)
[01:10] <Starnestommy> ghindo: .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/steam/
[01:10] <iositd> Praticle, yes.
[01:10] <iositd> !tab | Praticle
[01:10] <ubotu> Praticle: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[01:10] <ghindo> Ok, thanks
[01:10] <Praticle> iosited: i see...\
[01:10] <|SEF|> anniku989: I'm not sure about the system partition, but if it's just data, and the filesystem is NTFS you can try getting ntfsconfig
[01:11] <cjae> is there any way to probe usb devices or like a refresh option?
[01:11] <anniku989> I just want to be able to get my music/pics and such off of it
[01:12] <anniku989> |SEF| so i should go to package manager and install 'ntfsconfig' ?
[01:12] <prince_jammys> anniku989: first check if it's already mounted
[01:12] <anniku989> If by mounted, you mean able to see it on the desktop, then no, it is not
[01:13] <prince_jammys> anniku989: no, it could be mounted but with no icon on the desktop
[01:13] <PhilcoBill> A colleague at work told me that there are a small number of linux viruses and that linux needs at least some virus protection.  Is that true?
[01:13] <anniku989> how do i check this
[01:13] <josspyker> anniku989: use ntfs 3g
[01:13] <|SEF|> anniku989: I think you can just go to Applications>Add/Remove Programs if you are on Gutsy
[01:13] <tbrock> hey guys, what is the keystroke to decrease resolution in X
[01:13] <|SEF|> anniku989: but you will need to enable community maintained repositories or something
[01:13] <prince_jammys> anniku989: type ::  mount | grep fuseblk    and see if there's any output
[01:13] <snypzz> is there a streaming audio video program for ubuntu
[01:13] <anniku989> prince_jammys one sec
[01:14] <Starnestommy> PhilcoBill: the number of Linux viruses is currently so small that you can be perfectly safe without an antivirus
[01:14] <Starnestommy> snypzz: vlc?
[01:14] <Praticle> iosited: i am now putting cd .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Steam but it still says there is no directory, but it finds cd .wine fine :-/
[01:14] <snypzz> how do I get
[01:14] <Seeker`> PhilcoBill: I think there are very very few (if any) linux viruses in the wild, and I think they require the user to be particularly silly to do anything
[01:14] <anniku989> thats not doing anything
[01:14] <iositd> Praticle, you can use tab to find the directories as well
[01:14] <Seeker`> PhilcoBill: I would guess that in the region o 99% of linux boxes dont have AV
[01:14] <prince_jammys> Praticle: browse to the directory and double check the case sensitivity
[01:14] <cube> i need to know what control panel to install on gutsy server installation i have so i can access it via web browser
[01:15] <prince_jammys> Praticle: or use tab key to autocomplete, as above
[01:15] <Starnestommy> snypzz: sudo apt-get install vlc
[01:15] <Praticle> iosited i tried using the tab thing it changes Program to Program d Dos
[01:15] <anniku989> prince_jammys how do i tell if it is mounted
[01:15] <josspyker> cube: you can try webmin
[01:15] <snypzz> thanks
[01:15] <prince_jammys> anniku989: did anything appear?
[01:15] <usse1> !webmin
[01:15] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead.
[01:15] <prince_jammys> anniku989: if so, paste it here
[01:16] <anniku989> prince_jammys: I didn't get anything
[01:16] <cube> thankyou joss
[01:16] <brownie17> hi guys, i would lke to know something. i've heard that windows 64bit is quite difficult to run and driver availability is low, is this the same case for ubuntu? is 64bit ubuntu any more complicated than 32bit?
[01:16] <anniku989> ::  mount | grep fuseblk right?
[01:16] <georgy_28> !ebox
[01:16] <ubotu> ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See the plans for Hardy at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec
[01:16] <prince_jammys> anniku989: yes.  ok try::  grep ntfs /etc/fstab    and if nothing shows up, you can install ntfs-3g
[01:16] <ghindo> brownie17:  64 bit is more complicated primarily with things like flash - otherwise, I think it's fine
[01:16] <anniku989> alright
[01:16] <Praticle> ok i got it, it needed to be cd /home/mackenzie/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Steam
[01:17] <anniku989> prince_jammys: Do i put the colon's too?
[01:17] <josspyker> anniku989: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[01:17] <prince_jammys> anniku989: no
[01:17] <anniku989> k, one sec
[01:17] <aceraxon> hey all, running hardy 64bit and suddenly I can't change my screen resolution.  I can open the window for it, but when I click apply, absolutely nothing happens.  Any way to fix this?
[01:17] <brownie17> ghindo, thanks, i don't reckon flash will be be needed. also i think i'll be running qemu so that's okay
[01:17] <prince_jammys> anniku989: grep searches for the string "ntfs" in the file /etc/fstab, which is a list of what gets mounted
[01:17] <gokee2_> I am trying to mount some files through nfs and all I seem to be able to get is "drwx------ 10 1005 users" its not even letting root change that.  If I make a user with uid of 1005 I an look at the files.  I am using (rw,sync,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash) on the server.  I want all users on this computer to be able to read/write to this shhare
[01:17] <gokee2_> share*
[01:18] <solexious> hello all, all wmv files i play look blue... any ideas why?
[01:18] <gokee2_> Anyone know what could be wrong?  I think its somehow not picking on on no_root_squash?
[01:18] <anniku989> anniku989@anniku989-laptop:~$ grep ntfs /etc/fstab
[01:18] <anniku989> UUID=61F253FE7B5A14C9 /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[01:19] <prince_jammys> anniku989: that's it -- it's mounted to the folder /media/sda1
[01:19] <prince_jammys> anniku989: you can browse to that and view the contents
[01:19] <anniku989> alrighty, sweet
[01:19] <anniku989> Thanks man
[01:19] <Pelo> solexious, try opening synaptic and installing all the gstreamer0.10 packages you find , but be warned some wmv formats just don'T play well
[01:20]  * Pelo iz a lil board
[01:22] <D-Unit> will a pentium 4 thats 64-bit capable be faster or just work with 64-bit?
[01:22] <D-Unit> intel 630 to be precise
[01:22] <prince_jammys> anniku989: or i should say it *should* be mounted there
[01:22] <sfears> i know nvidia isn't officially supported: however, it used to work, after playing around with network settings after reboot it seems to give me an error about nvidia0.. i've completely removed & reinstalled all the nvidia packages & still get the same error.  Any ideas anyone?
[01:23] <Pelo> D-Unit, 64bit ubuntu still has some package issues,  no flash and some drivers missing for nvidia/ati and such , we generaly recommend the 32bit unless you hvae a real use for 64 bit
[01:24] <ghindo> Does anyone know why I get a "low-graphics mode" message at boot?
[01:24] <D-Unit> Pelo, well i dont use youtube much if ever and dont encode much either but i do encode more than i use youtube so i c use for 64-bit in that sense but should my 32-bit dial-up modem driver work in it?
[01:24] <sfears> no idea ghindo
[01:25] <ghindo> sfears:  how could I find out?
[01:25] <Pelo> sfears, I would review what you did when you "played around" see what might have messed up your nvidia settings,  I can't realy tell what migth have gone wrong but I know that resintalling a package doesn't reset settings and such
[01:25] <sfears> what part of boot ghindo
[01:26] <ghindo> sfears right before the login screen
[01:26] <sfears> do you know what file i would have to delete to bring the settings back to default Pelo?
[01:26] <Pelo> D-Unit, I think you should be fine
[01:26] <Pelo> sfears, not realy,  what is it that is not working ? video ? sound ?
[01:26] <D-Unit> Pelo, for 64-bit u mean, right?
[01:27] <Pelo> D-Unit, yeah,  , what is your video card ?
[01:27] <leo_rockw> greetings #ubuntu
[01:27] <sfears> ghindo.. when dealing with resolution issues.. sometimes.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can help.. but theres a lot of settings in there and it's easy to leave worse than you started
[01:27] <D-Unit> Pelo, ati saphire radeon x600 pro
[01:27] <solexious> [Q] How can i change the default player for wmv files?
[01:27] <ghindo> Thanks sfears
[01:27] <mandrig> can someone help me with some errors I'm encountering while installing alsa
[01:27] <Pelo> D-Unit,  that is where you might have issues,  I am not sure there are ati video drivers for the 64 bit version,
[01:28] <sfears> Pelo, when i enable restriced drivers & reboot.. i lose the gui logon screen.. if i command startx.. i get an error about not finding /etc/nvidia0 or something & screens found with no useable configuration
[01:28] <Nuxis> What is the programm to ad programms to the menu
[01:28] <arcticpenguin380> y cant i see my 8 gigs of ram?
[01:28] <arrow> Will someone please recommend a good game for me?
[01:28] <soundray> Nuxis: alacarte
[01:28] <sfears> arrow.. frets on fire
[01:28] <Nuxis> tnx soundray
[01:28] <D-Unit> Pelo, well in like 4 months i was planning to buy a 8800 gt 512 mb so i should be good then?
[01:28] <leo_rockw> arcticpenguin380: did you install ubuntu 64?
[01:28] <arrow> sfears, "frets on fire" is the name of the game?
[01:28] <Pelo> D-Unit, give it a try ,  if video is not an issue ther is always the vesa driver,  which should install by default anyway , if that doesn't work well for you , you'll know quickly enough,  and yuou can reinstall the 32bit one
[01:29] <leo_rockw> arrow: tremulous
[01:29] <Tommy> Hello, what is a program that i can use to speak written text? Like i type something and the computer reads it out + this read out can be saved (ie: an mp3 file)?
[01:29] <arcticpenguin380> 32bit i think
[01:29] <soundray> Nuxis: accessed via System-Preferences-Main Menu
[01:29] <leo_rockw> arcticpenguin380: that's y then
[01:29] <Pelo> D-Unit, consider checkingthis link out  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[01:29] <soundray> Tommy: there's festival
[01:29] <Pelo> sd
[01:29] <leo_rockw> arrow: tremulous is an fps/rts game. frets on fire is a guitar hero clone. both are good
[01:29] <Dangermike> anybody know how to stop firefox from loading swf and of the like? Every browser i have seg faults when trying to load flash...
[01:29] <solexious> Tommy: fiesta
[01:29] <cjae> hello how may I access my external esata hdd?
[01:29] <arrow> thx leo_rockw and sfears
[01:29] <solexious> Tommy: festival*
[01:29] <sfears> yup yup
[01:29] <Dangermike> cjae, is it mounted?
[01:30] <D-Unit> Pelo, if video works well on live cd then that means ill have no video problems, right?
[01:30] <Pelo> sfears, I'm not sure but did you say you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? that would be my suggestion
[01:30] <solexious> [Q] How can i change the default player for wmv files?
[01:30] <cjae> Dangermike, no
[01:30] <sfears> yeah
[01:30] <Pelo> D-Unit, live cd uses vesa driver as far as I know
[01:30] <leo_rockw> arrow: np
[01:30] <mandrig> I'm getting errors while installing alsa
[01:30] <cjae> Dangermike, do I have to edit fstab for it to be?
[01:30] <sfears> that's the only way i can get back to gui.. is to set to vesa... when i try with nvidia i get the same error
[01:30] <D-Unit> Pelo, y does it matter which driver i use?
[01:31] <Dangermike> cjae only if you want it to be persistent
[01:31] <georgy_28> sfears: try nv
[01:31] <leo_rockw> mandrig: use a pastebin to show us the errors
[01:31] <Pelo> D-Unit, I don't realy have any experince with either 64 bit or ati cards,  I'm just spitting back what I've read other say
[01:31] <Dangermike> cjae it should auto mount but if it didnt open terminal and type in  dmesg  get the name of the device then if you dont have a mount point create a directory under /media and then mount the dev like  sudo mount /dev/xxx /media/whatever
[01:31] <sfears> tried that too.. nv works but it doesn't enable extra effects
[01:31] <soundray> solexious: right-click - Properties - Open With
[01:31] <D-Unit> Pelo, k, well thx for answering some stuff
[01:31] <Pelo> D-Unit, depends how much you want out of your video card,  vesa is just a fallback driver, it won'T allow you to use 3d stuff and effect as far as I know
[01:32] <sfears> is there some kinda of nvidia.d file i can delete to start it from scratch?
[01:32] <Dangermike> sfears, look in synaptic you should have them installed there
[01:32] <mandrig> leo_rock, http://pastebin.com/m3fda5c80
[01:32] <Tommy> thanks
[01:32]  * Pelo sucks , he's got a lame computer and can't answer any questions about snazzy hardware
[01:32] <sfears> they're installed.. they're just not working correctally
[01:32] <Dangermike> sfears right click-> remove completely
[01:32] <solexious> soundray: it doesnt seem to keep that option tho...
[01:32] <sfears> yup.. tried that
[01:33] <Dangermike> sfears, if you want to find if its anywhere else slocate nvidia
[01:34] <soundray> solexious: it should -- does it report any errors when you set it?
[01:34] <anniku989> prince_jammys: Sorry for the delay, but that directory is the partition I have this ubuntu on, not my vista partition
[01:34]  * Pelo notices soundray has no social life either
[01:34] <stormze1> I'm building a firewall with a 300 GB drive.  (All I had)  Should I resize the (automatically) installed partitions to be much smaller in anticipation that the disk checking routing doesn't take forever when it kicks in?
[01:34] <stormze1> ( or does it even check unused sectors? )
[01:34] <leo_rockw> mandrig: how where you installing it?
[01:35] <prince_jammys> anniku989: you have ubuntu installed on an ntfs partition?
[01:35] <solexious> soundray: its added it to right clicking the fie but its not the default option
[01:35] <stormze1> OOps.  Wrong channel.  Sorry.
[01:35] <mandrig> leo, that was the feedback i got from make
[01:35] <anniku989> i'm 90% sure i formatted it as something else
[01:35] <Dangermike> anybody know how to stop or disassociate swf files from the OS, specifically the browsers ?
[01:35] <cjae> Dangermike, ok I did dmesg | grep sata and cannot tell if it is my internal sata drive or external
[01:35]  * soundray notices that Pelo draws the wrong conclusions
[01:35] <cube> how do i burn an iso slow, the built in one on ubuntu doesn't let me select a speed
[01:35] <BadSector> Does anyone have any help or direction for me to try and fix my Ubuntu 7.10 + geforce 6100 driver problems?
[01:35] <Dangermike> cjae, type in mount and see what dev name the internal one is
[01:35] <cube> is there a good app for  burning an iso?
[01:36] <Dangermike> cube, k3b
[01:36] <phoenix5002> I want to upgrade my video driver, but due to problems in the past I want to make sure I can get back to where I am now, so how would I do that?  Could I just reconfigure Xserver to get my current video driver back?
[01:36] <Pelo> cube, try using gnomebaker
[01:36] <anniku989> actually, that might be my swap space
[01:36] <cube> thankyou both
[01:36] <prince_jammys> anniku989: can you do :  sudo fdisk -l     and see which devices are marked NTFS?
[01:36] <Pelo> BadSector, what is the nature of the problem ?
[01:36] <anniku989> either way, its not the vista oen
[01:36] <anniku989> k
[01:36] <Dangermike> BadSector, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:37] <leo_rockw> mandrig: i've compiled alsa many times and i've never seen anything like that... i'm not sure what could be the problem
[01:37] <phoenix5002> how can I get Ubuntu to install the same video driver that it gave me when I first installed Ubuntu?
[01:37] <soundray> solexious: I can't reproduce your problem -- after going through Properties-Open With, I get the selected app as default
[01:37] <anniku989> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders
[01:37] <anniku989> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[01:37] <anniku989> Disk identifier: 0x4a414a40
[01:37] <anniku989>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:37] <anniku989> /dev/sda1   *           1        8797    70656116    7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:37] <anniku989> /dev/sda2            8928        9717     6345675   83  Linux
[01:37] <FloodBot2> anniku989: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:37] <cjae> Dangermike, ok I did that but they are both seagate hdd's, how else do you mean to tell?
[01:37] <soundray> solexious: are all your settings directories owned by you?
[01:37] <solexious> soundray: dam, thank you for trying
[01:37] <BadSector> Pelo: I installed the "suggested" restricted driver, and it runs for a few mins, but then the screen completely messes up so as that i cannot read anything on it... i have been trying that binarydriverhowto as well.. (well, i guess i will try more, if that is the only fix)
[01:38] <prince_jammys> anniku989: ok in a terminal can you do:    cd /media/sda1
[01:38] <Dangermike> the internal *should* be sda the external should be sdb etc
[01:38] <solexious> i belive so, only me and root
[01:38] <anniku989> whats with the floodbot?
[01:38] <anniku989> yup
[01:38] <phoenix5002> how can I get Ubuntu to install the same video driver that it gave me when I first installed Ubuntu?
[01:38] <prince_jammys> anniku989: you can't paste a bunch of lines
[01:38] <Pelo> BadSector, you can always revert to the vesa driver if you need to with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   from the recovery mode
[01:38] <Dangermike> BadSector, i used envy when installing my nvidia drivers and i have not had any issues although its not supported by ubuntu at all
[01:38] <leo_rockw> anniku989: you need to use a pastebin for more than a couple of lines
[01:38] <Dangermike> !envy | badsector
[01:38] <ubotu> badsector: envy is an unsupported tool to install newer versions of binary video drivers than provided by the official repositories. Use at your own risk, and remember that the latest version is not necessarily the "best". See « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[01:39] <cjae> Dangermike, open dialogue window?
[01:39] <soundray> solexious: occasionally, config directories in your home become owned by root (side effect from invoking root shells in a bad way)
[01:39] <anniku989> oh, sorry
[01:39] <georgy_28> phoenix5002, : make a copy of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[01:39] <anniku989> I get nothing from that command
[01:39] <sidelil> Excuse me I was trying to put on a DVD more then one bootable CD, like ubuntu, kubuntu SuperGrubDisk, RescueSystemCD etc., with a GRUB menu. Do you know what should I write on the menu.lst file in order to boot the right one? Thanks
[01:39] <prince_jammys> anniku989: do :   ls
[01:39] <Dangermike> cjae, when you type in mount the dev that has a mount point of / is your internal
[01:39] <BadSector> thx Dangermike! I'll give that a shot
[01:39] <aanabasis> /j ubuntu+1
[01:39] <kevcox> Can anyone recommend the best GNU application that I can monitor my system logs?
[01:39] <NW2190> hey, how can I fix my JACK server if it keeps saying "hw0: is already in use"?
[01:39] <prince_jammys> anniku989: the cd command just changes directory, so it's ok if you get nothing
[01:40] <soundray> solexious: 'sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME' should fix it (be careful not to mistype -- best substitute the real values for the variables)
[01:40] <leo_rockw> !best | kevcox
[01:40] <ubotu> kevcox: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, join #ubuntu-bots and ask there.
[01:40] <NW2190> What/Where is the "hw:0" playback device in ubuntu?
[01:40] <mandrig> Hey guys, I'm getting an error when I make alsa-lib, http://pastebin.com/m3fda5c80
[01:40] <anniku989> prince_jammys oh, ok
[01:40] <cjae> Dangermike, no it is only /home but is no where near the same syntax as what  I get from dmesg
[01:40] <zdux00tv> hi I'm trying to create a bootable USB drive, I'm having trouble. I use dd to copy an image onto a UDB disk, the command was dd if=disk.img of=/dev/sdb1  Should I have used /dev/sdb instead?
[01:40] <anniku989> prince_jammys: now what
[01:40] <new_ubu_user> anyone wanna help me get my dual monitors working? :>
[01:40] <prince_jammys> anniku989: ls   lists the contents. is anything there?
[01:40] <soundray> kevcox: IMO, tail -f in a terminal is best
[01:40] <anniku989> prince_jammys: Just type ls in terminal? I don't get anything
[01:41] <phoenix5002> georgy_28 look at PM
[01:41] <prince_jammys> anniku989: ok now type:  cd  and hit enter, and then:  sudo mount /media/sda1
[01:41] <lachlan> how do i update my version of wine to 0.9.54? i heard that that version is in the ubuntu reps
[01:41] <arrow> so I just installed tremulous on my computer and its all blurry, I noticed it did that with starcraft also, but I thought that that was because of wine
[01:41] <anniku989> k
[01:41] <kevcox> Thank you
[01:41] <Dangermike> cjae, yeah mount just shows you current mounted devices if you have ubuntu installed on your internal then it will say something like /dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[01:41] <soundray> zdux00tv: no, the command looks all right. Were you following a guide?
[01:41] <mandrig> Can anyone help me with an error I'm getting when I 'make
[01:41] <mandrig> ' alsa-lib, http://pastebin.com/m3fda5c80
[01:41] <new_ubu_user> I just installed Hardy with hopes that it would be cake to get dual monitors and Active directory auth working..can anyone assist?
[01:42] <Dangermike> cjae, if you see sda on your internal and you only have 1 other sata device it should be sdb just mount the device, along with its partition number, to a mount point in /media
[01:42] <soundray> new_ubu_user: try in #ubuntu+1 for hardy
[01:42] <anniku989> prince_jammys: can you plz join channel #anniku989help real quick?
[01:42] <zdux00tv> soundray: yes I'm getting an error PXE... which is a network card issue? So I think my usb device isn't getting detected
[01:42] <ThreeFingerPete> new_ubu_user: dual monitor should be easy enough
[01:42] <new_ubu_user> you'd think so :0
[01:42] <new_ubu_user> i got cloned display on both monitors
[01:42] <stormze1> hmm.  couldn't get my question answered at ##linux.  Anyone know if the mandatory checkdisk routine checks unused sectors?
[01:42] <new_ubu_user> this happens with my install of gutsy as well
[01:43] <cjae> Dangermike, no because everything is sdX and I have more than one internel drive
[01:43] <soundray> zdux00tv: yes, it's either not even trying to boot from USB (which you should fix via BIOS setup), or there is no suitable boot sector. Some hardware won't boot off USB at all.
[01:43] <Dangermike> cjae, they follow logically as in sda sdb sdc etc look at the last device and your external will be the next lettering
[01:43] <new_ubu_user> i am on a dell optiplex gx620
[01:43] <new_ubu_user> ati
[01:43] <soundray> zdux00tv: did you partition and format the USB device before you used the dd?
[01:44] <tokyoahead> hi guys.... how do I terminate a died wine-application?
[01:44] <Dangermike> tokyoahead,  wineserver -k
[01:44] <cjae> Dangermike, I am getting  away from the point here, I cannot distinguish the name from dmesg to create a dir in /media
[01:44] <zdux00tv> soundray: the bios lists USB HDD as  first to boot. So maybe it's the image? I didn't format the USB, just using dd so I thought it was unnecessary
[01:44] <soundray> Dangermike: won't that kill all the running wine programs ( tokyoahead)
[01:45] <Dangermike> cjae, give me a sec let me find my external sata i will have to look at it
[01:45] <scoundrel> hi, guys
[01:45] <zdux00tv> soundray: In gparted, it lists the card as fat and bootable
[01:45] <blake__> hi. i'm on ubuntu. my desktop just froze. i have an unsaved text document that i CANNOT lose. what can i do?
[01:45] <blake__> please, i need help urgently... :-(
[01:45] <scoundrel> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/199708 - any ideas?
[01:45] <hilikus`> anyone good with ssh? :)
[01:45] <soundray> zdux00tv: did you dd *from* a fat filesystem as well?
[01:45] <Starnestommy> blake__: find out what process is causing the lockup and end it
[01:45] <blake__> how?
[01:46] <soundray> hilikus`: just ask the question
[01:46] <Starnestommy> blake__: run 'top' in the terminal
[01:46] <leo_rockw> blake__: and then killall processname
[01:46] <blake__> how? the desktop is frozen
[01:46] <blake__> how could i get terminal
[01:46] <leo_rockw> blake__: ctrl + alt + F1
[01:46] <tokyoahead> Dangermike: thanks
[01:46] <hilikus`> i made a .ppk with puttygen and how do i get that to the authorized_key id_rsa.pub and id_rsa files so it works
[01:46] <blake__> and that wont close my desktop leo_rockw?
[01:46] <leo_rockw> blake__: and ctrl+alt+F7 to go back to X
[01:46] <blake__> i have a text document i cant lose
[01:46] <rbil> how is that going to save an unsaved document in his editor?
[01:46] <leo_rockw> blake__: nope, it won't close your desktop
[01:46] <amenado> blake__-> do you have another pc you ssh in to your box?
[01:46] <rbil> methinks  he's lost that document and there is no way to recover
[01:46] <Starnestommy> blake__: it won't.  It'll just switch control of the screen to a virtual terminal
[01:47] <blake__> no ssh is not enabled
[01:47] <leo_rockw> blake__: unless the frozen process is gdm itself
[01:47] <leo_rockw> blake__: maybe you can find the file in /tmp
[01:47] <blake__> no, i doubt its gdm
[01:47] <blake__> i think its vmware
[01:47] <zdux00tv> soundray: well, this OS is ext, the dd image is fat (at least I think it is)
[01:47] <Bradley> hi
[01:47] <soundray> hilikus`: copy the public part to the server and append it with 'cat publickey >>$HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys'
[01:47] <Bradley> can anyone hlep me?
[01:47] <hilikus`> do i juts copy the public key puttygen made to authorized_keys?
[01:47] <blake__> uh oh, ctrl alt f1 does nothing
[01:47] <blake__> wtf
[01:47] <Bradley> hello
[01:48] <WhiteNerd> #unixpod
[01:48] <Bradley> can anyone offer any assiastance?
[01:48] <soundray> hilikus`: no, append. Otherwise you will delete whatever is already there.
[01:48] <hilikus`> ok
[01:48] <zdux00tv> soundray: gparted lists the usb as fat16, and on it I see various files, so it looks  like it is not corrupted
[01:48] <WhiteNerd> join #unixpod
[01:48] <hilikus`> do i need id_rsa.pub and id_rsa ?
[01:48] <Starnestommy> Bradley: what do you need help with?
[01:48] <blake__> CTRL ALT F1 does nothing...
[01:48] <blake__> is all lost?
[01:48] <Starnestommy> WhiteNerd: /join #unixpod
[01:48] <Bradley> oh cool
[01:48] <blake__> i cant lose that text document
[01:48] <leo_rockw> !ask | Bradley
[01:48] <ubotu> Bradley: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:48] <Bradley> i need help with getting Ubuntu installed, duelbot
[01:48] <soundray> zdux00tv: I think you should have a look at the install page -- it links to instructions for USB HD installations. Private message...
[01:48] <hilikus`> what _are_ id_rsa and id_rsa.pub
[01:48] <soundray> !install > zdux00tv
[01:48] <NobleArc> When I try to install Ubuntu on my Dell lappy, the partitioner gives me the following error message: File system doesn't have expected sizes for Windows to like it. Cluster size is 2k (1k expected); number of clusters is 24026 (47959 expected); size of FATs is 94 sectors (188 expected).
[01:49] <blake__> i will do anything to get what is on that text document, pleasE!
[01:49] <NobleArc> What's up with that?
[01:49] <rbil> blake__: what editor were u using with that doc?
[01:49] <zdux00tv> soundray: also gparted reports that it is flagged as bootable
[01:49] <Bradley> *duelboot
[01:49] <blake__> gedit, rbil
[01:49] <blake__> and i think vmware froze
[01:49] <Bradley> i have tried many times, and it ended up messing up windows
[01:49] <blake__> but the entire desktop froze as well
[01:49] <blake__> the clock stopped
[01:49] <blake__> its stuck at 8:39 pm
[01:49] <leo_rockw> blake__: does caps lock work?
[01:49] <phoenix5002> I'm having trouble with some applications not responding to Ubuntu HotKeys
[01:49] <blake__> how would i know if caps lock works?
[01:49] <zdux00tv> soundray: I'm using irssi (text based irc) not sure if I have private messages,, I'll go check the offical site and see if I missed a step
[01:49] <blake__> no, it doesnt
[01:49] <soundray> zdux00tv: the bootable flag doesn't matter these days -- well, only to DOS MBRs. Which makes me think: did you install grub to the device?
[01:49] <rbil> blake__: problem is you won't be able to get back into gedit and its contents from another terminal session, be it a fullscreen console or ssh
[01:50] <blake__> caps lock does not light up
[01:50] <soundray> !install | zdux00tv
[01:50] <ubotu> zdux00tv: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[01:50] <sotero> hi
[01:50] <dabbill> any one here use startupmanager? i cant seem to get any splash screens to work other then the ones for grub
[01:50] <sotero> have peoples from brasil?
[01:50] <ryanzec> how do i change file permission recursively from command line?  I have a bunch of folder i want to put into my apache localhost but need to change the permissions so apache can read it
[01:50] <blake__> rbil, caps lock does not light up
[01:50] <blake__> however, f lock works, but caps lock does not
[01:50] <blake__> very strange
[01:50] <blake__> :(
[01:50] <Starnestommy> ryanzec: chmod -R mode dir
[01:50] <rbil> blake__: were u editing an existing saved file or writing one from scratch?
[01:50] <Dangermike> cjae, this is what you should see with dmesg output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/58829/
[01:50] <soundray> zdux00tv: if not, the installation link ^^ will guide you
[01:50] <blake__> i was editing an existing saved file...
[01:50] <NW2190> is there a way to boot from an ISO located on your hardrive?
[01:50] <blake__> but it has an * next to the name
[01:51] <blake__> i think that means its not saved
[01:51] <zdux00tv> soundray: the computer currently has gOS installed, and grub is installed
[01:51] <soundray> ryanzec: use chown/chmod with -R -- read the manpages so you know what you're doing
[01:51] <Dangermike> NW2190, use vmware else burn it
[01:51] <zdux00tv> soundray: thanks for your help
[01:51] <soundray> zdux00tv: you need grub on the USB HD as well
[01:51] <rbil> blake__: well then on the positive side, you'll only lose what you didn't get an opportunity to save. the one on the hardrive will still be there
[01:51] <zdux00tv> soundray: ahh,, that might be it
[01:51] <blake__> no, thats what i need
[01:51] <NW2190> Dangermike: ok i'll try that
[01:52] <blake__> what i didnt save, is there nothing i can do?
[01:52] <zdux00tv> soundray: any way to tell? I can see some files on it
[01:52] <Dangermike> man im lagging horribly
[01:52] <blake__> i will be in tons of trouble if i dont get that unsaved info
[01:52] <rbil> blake__: that only means the changes you made during that editing session haven't been saved. original file is still there
[01:52] <blake__> :(
[01:52] <blake__> yes, i know.
[01:52] <blake__> its still a huge problem
[01:52] <Bradley> another question what is Ubuntu better on... FAT32 or NTFS
[01:52] <soundray> zdux00tv: if you didn't consciously put it in the MBR, it won't be there. Use the link ^^
[01:52] <blake__> rbil, what can i do?
[01:52] <Dangermike> Bradley, not NTFS rofl
[01:52] <blake__> is it lost for sure?
[01:52] <zdux00tv> soundray: I think that's it then thanks
[01:53] <Bradley> ?
[01:53] <blake__> caps lock and num lock dont work, but f lock does
[01:53] <blake__> wtf
[01:53] <rbil> blake__: well if you can somehow get to a terminal session, which might not be possible if the whole system is locked up, you might be able to do a mem dump and get that stuff
[01:53] <Dangermike> Bradley,  its best on ext3 or ext2
[01:53] <Odd-rationale> Bradley: You mean install ubuntu on ?
[01:53] <cjae> Dangermike, brb company
[01:53] <ryanzec> thnaks, i actually found the way of doing in with the GUI
[01:53] <Starnestommy> blake__: I think some editors automatically save to a temporary file of some sort while editing, but I don't know if gedit does
[01:53] <Bradley> yes
[01:53] <blake__> jesus
[01:53] <Bradley> i have windows vista and can it install fine with NTFS on the same harddisk?
[01:53] <blake__> Starnestommy, can you help me?
[01:53] <rbil> blake__: try some of the obvious now, like unplugging keyboard and replugging and see whether you can get back the keyboard
[01:53] <Odd-rationale> Bradley: Don't. Use ext3
[01:54] <Thingymebob> blake theres agood chance theres an automatic save in the same directory (probably hidden precededwith a .) or with same ame and ending with ~
[01:54] <Bradley> how, all Windows Vista has is NTFS
[01:54] <soundray> blake__: no invoking deities please. Didn't follow the whole conversation -- do you know about safe MagicSysRq rebooting?
[01:54] <Dangermike> anybody know how to fix seg faults with all browsers when flash is loaded (specifically firefox)?
[01:54] <Odd-rationale> Bradley: You will create a nes partition with a ext3 format. Windows will still be on the ntfs partition
[01:54] <blake__> im so fucked
[01:54] <leo_rockw> Bradley: ntfs == poo
[01:54] <blake__> :9
[01:54] <blake__> i need to get that document
[01:54] <blake__> it was a password, i cant lose it
[01:54] <leo_rockw> blake__: try to keep the channel family friendly
[01:54] <blake__> sorry
[01:55] <sotero> vista is bad
[01:55] <soundray> blake__: don't let your frustration spoil your good manners
[01:55] <blake__> ok, i am sorry
[01:55] <blake__> just please if anybody has any ideas
[01:55] <Bradley> ok, but will Ubuntu's installer take care of this or do i need to?
[01:55] <blake__> i checked, and ssh is disabled
[01:55] <rbil> blake__: take a deep breath and don't turn off computer by hardware switch just yet
[01:55] <leo_rockw> Bradley: you could take care of it, or you can use gparted on the ubuntu live cd
[01:55] <Odd-rationale> Bradley: The installed will take care of most of it.
[01:55] <rbil> blake__: possible the os is still running and only X has crashed
[01:55] <sotero> bradley need swap
[01:55] <soundray> blake__: which editor were you using?
[01:55] <Odd-rationale> *intsller
[01:55] <blake__> gedit
[01:55] <IndyGunFreak> !dualboot | Bradley read this..
[01:55] <ubotu> Bradley read this..: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookPro https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:55] <rbil> soundray: gedit
[01:56] <dabbill> any one familar with StartUp-Manager? the only startup screen i can get to work is the default one that comes with it
[01:56] <blake__> i was using gedit soundray
[01:56] <rbil> soundray: desktop locked up
[01:56] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: what did you do?
[01:56] <alanlindsay> hi
[01:56] <Odd-rationale> Bradley: For starters it is best to use the slider option in the installer.
[01:56] <blake__> i was using vmware, and it went grey, and then the entire desktop froze
[01:56] <soundray> rbil, blake__: no way of getting a text console?
[01:56] <blake__> i dont think so soundray
[01:56] <blake__> not without ssh, right?
[01:56] <rbil> soundray: he says no
[01:56] <Bradley> right, but the least it will take is 48 percent of my harddrive
[01:56] <soundray> blake__: you've tried Ctrl-Alt-F2?
[01:57] <Bradley> for the partition
[01:57] <alanlindsay> could anyone help me with triple booting mac/xp/ubuntu?
[01:57] <blake__> yes, all of those
[01:57] <Bradley> which, is way to much
[01:57] <shadowhywind> hay all quick question, When i am in a text edior, and hit tab it leaves a small little comma looking thing, How do i remove that?
[01:57] <bullgard4> What is the function of the process kondemand/0? It has a high priority.
[01:57] <leo_rockw> blake__: ctrl alt esc? (is that the correct combo for kill in gnome?)
[01:57] <Odd-rationale> Bradley: Try booting into windows and defragging before partitioning. And BACKUP!
[01:57] <soundray> blake__: can you still do a VM snapshot?
[01:57] <rbil> leo_rockw: no it is not, anyway keyboard locked up
[01:57] <blake__> somebody told me to unplug my kbd and now it wont work
[01:58] <Bradley> ok, thanks
[01:58] <blake__> no, its not vmware thats frozen, its the host machine for vmware
[01:58] <blake__> well i think vmware is what did it
[01:58] <leo_rockw> rbil: oh, right...
[01:58] <Starnestommy> it sounds like the cpu or bios is hanging up
[01:58] <Bradley> one more thing, is there any faster Defragger than Vista's cause that thing is SLOW
[01:58] <Starnestommy> if not just the os
[01:58] <blake__> does anybody know if gedit saves everything as i type?
[01:58] <blake__> or not/
[01:58] <joshritger> how do i change settings with compiz (I enabled extra effects under the appearance menu) and how do I choose a compiz theme?
[01:58] <Dangermike> How does one stop seg faults, specifically in firefox, when going to a website that has some sort of flash embedded?
[01:58] <Odd-rationale> blake__: not
[01:58] <blake__> :(
[01:58] <blake__> their must be something i can do...
[01:58] <Dangermike> joshritger, ccsm
[01:58] <rbil> blake__: as I said, might get to it looking at what's cached in ram, but you'll need to get to a terminal to do so
[01:59] <blake__> i dont think i can get a terminal
[01:59] <leo_rockw> Bradley: linux doesn't need defraggers, so i doubt anyone knows about ntfs defraggers here
[01:59] <blake__> caps lock does not light up, nor does num lock, just F lock
[01:59] <bullgard4> Welche Funktion hat der Prozess kondemand/0? Er hat eine hohe Priorität.
[01:59] <Odd-rationale> Bradley: This is not really the place to be asking about windows stuff. I for one have no idea...
[01:59] <bullgard4> Welche Funktion hat der Prozess kondemand/0? Er hat eine hohe Priorität.
[01:59] <blake__> so much for linux stability
[01:59] <Thingymebob> blake - have you tried plain alt+f2 to see if  you can get a run application dialog
[01:59] <Bradley> ok thanks
[01:59] <Dangermike> !ccsm | joshritger
[01:59] <ubotu> joshritger: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[01:59] <dabbill> when i try to change usplash themes to any thing other then the default in startup-manager all i get is a black screen on shutdown and startup.
[02:00] <soundray> bullgard4: English please, and patience please
[02:00] <blake__> no, but i tried ctrl alt f1
[02:00] <blake__> and now my keybd wont work at all
[02:00] <Bradley> leo_rockw : why doesnt it need defraggers
[02:00] <blake__> cuz it is USB
[02:00] <rbil> blake__: something is really wrong because Ubuntu DOES NOT normally lock up like this.
[02:00] <Odd-rationale> !defrag | Bradley
[02:00] <ubotu> Bradley: The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[02:00] <soundray> bullgard4: I believe it scales your CPU frequency
[02:00] <leo_rockw> Bradley: read this http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/items/defragment/index.php?lang=
[02:00] <blake__> well what can i do?]
[02:00] <corny> \leave
[02:00] <blake__> this is horrible
[02:00] <blake__> :[
[02:00] <Bradley> oh, cool
[02:00] <soundray> blake__: what OS is the host?
[02:00] <Bradley> thanks
[02:00] <joshritger> Dangermike: Thanks, I was just about to ask what ccsm was
[02:01] <blake__> the host OS is ubuntu, the guest is XP
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: maybe you should actually dual boot, instead of vmware?
[02:01] <blake__> no, ubuntu is the host os
[02:01] <blake__> i was using vmware in ubuntu, and thats what froze i think
[02:01] <sfears> does anyone know what the default attributes are supposed to be for the /dev/nvidia0 file?
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: so what happens when you power down and restart?
[02:01] <IndyGunFreak> sorry i've not followed this.
[02:01] <blake__> i dont know, i cant try
[02:01] <blake__> cuz i will lose my text document
[02:01] <blake__> :[
[02:01] <rbil> problem is that blake__ 's X has locked up for some reason. possibly something with VMWare or video drivers
[02:02] <soundray> blake__: do you still see it on screen?
[02:02] <Gary_inNYC> blake can you ctrl+alt+backspace and relog in?
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> oh, well, you're probably hosed there, how important is this document?
[02:02] <Gary_inNYC> oh nvm you got a doc open
[02:02] <blake__> i see vmware on screen, but it went grey, just before the system locked up
[02:02] <rbil> Gary_inNYC: that would kill gedit if he could do that
[02:02] <tokyoahead> guys I have a SB audigy ZS but I wont hear ANY sound from it... any idea?
[02:02] <soundray> blake__: what about your important document?
[02:02] <blake__> its in the tray
[02:02] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: is this text file in vmware, or on the host OS?
[02:02] <blake__> oh, on the host OS
[02:02] <blake__> sorry
[02:03] <blake__> :]
[02:03] <dabbill> when i try to change usplash themes to any thing other then the default in startup-manager all i get is a black screen on shutdown and startup.
[02:03] <rbil> IndyGunFreak: it's in gedit, so what do u think?
[02:03] <blake__> he may not have heard that XP was the guest os
[02:03] <blake__> heh
[02:03] <IndyGunFreak> rbil: well, if i needed a smartass answer, i'd have asked, i said a second ago i hadn't followed all of this.
[02:03] <alanlindsay> apple tripleboot anyone?
[02:03] <blake__> i cant believe it, this was such horrible timing
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: well, this is probably gonna be a lesson in why you should make incremental savefs
[02:04] <blake__> i really need help
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> *saves
[02:04] <rbil> IndyGunFreak: didn't see what u said a second ago, as you didn't see what he'd said a few seconds prior to that I guess :-)
[02:04] <soundray> IndyGunFreak: lol, don't be so sensitive, it was an honest enquiry about your opinion :)
[02:04] <blake__> i have the password for a steam account in that text doc, if i lose it i lost close to $200 worth of games
[02:04] <blake__> :[
[02:04] <IndyGunFreak> soundray: lol, trust me, i'm not the sensitive type, but i certainly need someone making smartass remarks to me, i listen tot hat crap all day
[02:05] <blake__> does gedit auto save every once in a while?
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: geez man, don't you keep backups?
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: pretty unlikely
[02:05] <blake__> should i leave the machine running? hope it auto saves?
[02:05] <rbil> blake__: no
[02:05] <blake__> i had just typed the password in
[02:05] <blake__> and then the machine crashed
[02:05] <rbil> blake__: it won't autosave, but it might give a little time recover enuf to get to a terminal
[02:05] <ryanzec> I am trying to delete eclipse project files but i can't see them, are they hidden?  if so how do i see hidden files?
[02:05] <IndyGunFreak> so how are you here now?
[02:06] <blake__> i would have to reboot for a terminal
[02:06] <blake__> :[
[02:06] <rbil> blake__: it will still be sitting in your RAM
[02:06] <blake__> after i reboot?
[02:06] <rbil> blake__: then it'll be outta RAM
[02:06] <rbil> you cannot reboot
[02:06] <blake__> well i dont think i can get terminal otherwise
[02:06] <blake__> tbh
[02:06] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: well, hopefully you learned your lesson
[02:06] <blake__> yeah, linux is no more stable than windows
[02:06] <arrow> I just installed tremulous and when I play it I get a really blurry screen, but everything else is fine, any help?
[02:07] <rbil> hey people, if he doesn't have sshd running, any possibility of telnet giving him access. I doubt it, but maybe?
[02:07] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: well, you've clearly not learned the intended lesson.. as thats horse crap
[02:07] <leo_rockw> blake__: that's not the lesson
[02:07] <blake__> this is just a default install of ubuntu rbil
[02:07] <Dangermike> dabbill, i used a program to manage my boot splash screens it went black on me because the file was no longer in the correct directory i used this program although its not supported by ubuntu http://www.qt-apps.org/content/show.php/QGRUBEditor?content=60391
[02:07] <rbil> blake__: i'm asking because I never use telenet and don't know if it's availabel and accessable via default install
[02:07] <sfears> is anyone in here using nvidia drivers?
[02:08] <blake__> no
[02:08] <blake__> i just tried
[02:08] <rbil> telnet
[02:08] <Starnestommy> sfears: I am
[02:08] <leo_rockw> arrow: can you show us a snapshot?
[02:08] <david_> im using n vidia drivers
[02:08] <david_> sfears
[02:08] <IndyGunFreak> sfears: probably a lot of people are
[02:08] <blake__> if i lose that document i am so screwed
[02:08] <sfears> will you "ls -l /dev/nvidia0" and let me know what the output is?
[02:08] <Gary_inNYC> speaking of games, anyone here play warsow and can tell me how to install from the 0.42 "unified" zip?
[02:08] <mandrig> ls
[02:08] <blake__> $200 out the window, because of an unstable OS
[02:08] <mandrig> oops
[02:08] <blake__> :[
[02:08] <mandrig> wrong window, lol
[02:08] <leo_rockw> blake__: yeah, you shoulda bought vista for that money... oh, wait, no... it's more expensive
[02:08] <Starnestommy> sfears: crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 195, 0 2008-02-15 16:13 /dev/nvidia0
[02:09] <rbil> blake__: I don't know wht to say at this point. I always have sshd setup for just such cases
[02:09] <sfears> yeah.. that's what mine is too.. damn
[02:09] <blake__> i will have to run sshd from now on now as well
[02:09] <blake__> even if just behind an NAT
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: an *unstable OS* has nothing to do with it, the problem is pounding on the keyboard complaining right now
[02:09] <arrow> leo_rockw: it won't let me use printscreen, is there another way?
[02:09] <mandrig> where is the trash dir in ubuntu?
[02:09] <blake__> well i just lost $200
[02:09] <blake__> because of ubuntu
[02:09] <mandrig> like what folder is it in?
[02:09] <Starnestommy> blake__: do you think you can remember the password?
[02:09] <sfears> i'm getting an I/O error with that file when i enable nvidia drivers.. any have any idea what that could be?
[02:09] <Starnestommy> mandrig: ~/.Trash
[02:09] <blake__> no, it was random numbers and letters
[02:09] <soundray> blake__: try Ctrl-Alt-PrintScreen-R -- this should take the keyboard away from X. Then you can switch to a console.
[02:09] <blake__> so i wont remember it
[02:09] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: no, its not because of ubuntu, how many times do you have to be told that?.. you failed to make a proper backup
[02:09] <leo_rockw> arrow: why not? are you in full screen? try alt+enter
[02:10] <ggbs> hello
[02:10] <dabbill> Dangermike, does that change the grub screen? or the ubuntu loading screen?
[02:10] <rbil> blake__: you'll have to contact whomever sold u the password, explain the prob and try to get them to help you with a reissue
[02:10] <ggbs> is compiz on the Ubuntu 7.10 CD?
[02:10] <blake__> its steam
[02:10] <blake__> they wont do anything unless you have the original credit card
[02:10] <leo_rockw> ggbs: compiz comes with ubuntu 7.10 yes
[02:10] <blake__> which i dont anymore
[02:10] <arrow> leo_rockw, when I pushed alt+enter it went away
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> ggbs: desktop effects is, but you can install compiz settings pretty easily
[02:10] <ggbs> what is the minimum video card req
[02:10] <IndyGunFreak> ggbs: are you using Nvidia or ATI?
[02:10] <leo_rockw> arrow: it should switch to a window... how weird
[02:11] <ggbs> i have both actually
[02:11] <arrow> leo_rockw: I meant the blurryness
[02:11] <ggbs> 2 systems
[02:11] <blake__> unfucking believeable, i just rebooted, maybe its still in their
[02:11] <lwizardl> hi
[02:11] <leo_rockw> arrow: oh, kewl, haha
[02:11] <blake__> otherwise im done
[02:11] <arrow> lol
[02:11] <blake__> :[[[[[
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> well, which one are you wanting to run compiz w/?  nvidia will probably be easier.
[02:11] <leo_rockw> blake__: stop swearing. that's your 2nd warning
[02:11] <ggbs> both :)
[02:11] <lwizardl> anyone using a dell dimension 2400 ?
[02:11] <soundray> blake__: why didn't you listen to my advice?
[02:11] <ggbs> me and my bros
[02:11] <RoAkSoAx> no se todavia
[02:11] <rbil> blake__: well, sorry that you couldn't get more help here. When your system screws up like this, unless you've pre-planned some backup measures, I guess you just learned an expensive lesson.
[02:11] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: you're still blaming he OS i see?
[02:11] <arrow> leo_rockw, I think I'll just play it in a window, I'm lazy like that
[02:12] <ggdb> what is the minimum 128mb?
[02:12] <arrow> thx for help leo_rockw
[02:12] <leo_rockw> arrow: if that works for you, then fine lol
[02:12] <ggdb> or 64mb?
[02:12] <leo_rockw> arrow: my pleasure
[02:12] <ggdb> 32mb
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> ggdb: for the OS, or for the video card?
[02:12] <ggbs> to run compiz (video card)
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> ggbs: not 100% sure, i would imagine at least 64
[02:12] <IndyGunFreak> probably 128 would be ideal
[02:13] <Gary_inNYC> anyone here play warsow?  i want to install from the "unified" zip file, but all I see are windows binaries
[02:13] <mandrig> how do you delete files in term?
[02:13] <soundray> mandrig: with rm
[02:13] <mandrig> thanks
[02:14] <soundray> !cli > mandrig, please read the private message from ubotu
[02:14] <ready> this script migth be interesting for ppl using yakuake or konsole with tabs: https://dev.sitea.cc/Pub/scripts/tab
[02:14] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: any luck?
[02:15] <leo_rockw> ready: what does it do? i use yakuake all the time
[02:15] <ready> you can config it to open eg 5 tabs with different titles executing different commands
[02:16] <blake__> nope
[02:16] <blake__> it has the old password
[02:16] <blake__> this is so horrible
[02:16] <blake__> i am done with ubuntu, windows actually never did this to me
[02:16] <leo_rockw> blake__: ok bye
[02:16] <ready> i hate it after every reboot open all the tabs and change the paths for my environment
[02:16] <blake__> it may have gotten spyware, but thats because people actually wrote spyware for it because more than 0.00001% of the world used it
[02:16] <leo_rockw> ready: i'll save it and take a look at it. thank you
[02:17] <tokyoahead> guys does anyone else have problems getting rhythmbox to shuffle songs in a playlist?
[02:17] <soundray> blake__: blame whoever you want to, but do stay on topic
[02:17] <blake__> goodbye ubuntu, may you die a slow and painful death
[02:17] <soundray> blake__: and do get in touch with the steam people, they must be flexible in a situation like that
[02:17] <leo_rockw> let's not feed the troll, shall we?
[02:17] <blake__> not when the account didn't belong to you
[02:17] <DOOM_NX> how do i install edubuntu on a kubuntu installation? sudo apt-get install edubuntu-dekstop ?
[02:17] <blake__> they're not flexible
[02:18] <crf> hi
[02:18] <PriceChild> !offtopic | blake__
[02:18] <ubotu> blake__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:18] <nickrud> blake__: drop it, please. No one here is happy what happened, but there's nothing they can do
[02:18] <blake__> ubuntu is nothing more than a con
[02:18] <leo_rockw> DOOM_NX: if you want gnome, if you want kde it's edubuntu-desktop-kde
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> blake__: once again, you complain about the OS, when your failure to keep a current backup, is the main issue.
[02:18] <soundray> blake__: so, ask the person who the account belongs to to get in touch
[02:18] <IndyGunFreak> well that was fun..lol
[02:18] <Bradley> blake__: that sucks man... i feel you Ubuntu, wipped out one of my kernel files on my laptop... im trying to get it working now
[02:18] <DOOM_NX> aaaawww
[02:18] <YouKnowM1> I am having trouble making Evolution notify me of new mail, I get static.  Help?
[02:21] <kexp903> I need help with wireless can anyone help
[02:21] <soundray> [sigh]: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' -- you can permanently disable 24bit through there
[02:21] <Bradley> ok, i am installing linux on another computer now, and it will take no lower than 48% of its drive
[02:22] <Bradley> why is this?
[02:22] <Stwange> does 64 bit ubuntu have *any* advantages?
[02:22] <DOOM_NX> while it was downloading edubuntu-desktop i pressed Ctrl+C so it stopped. have i done anything wrong?
[02:22] <leo_rockw> Stwange: if you have 4gb or more of ram, then yes
[02:22] <sfears> 48% of the selected partition Bradley?
[02:22] <soundray> Stwange: faster memory I/O, access > 3GB
[02:22] <[sigh]> I tried dpkg-reconfigure, and it didn't use 24-bit anymore, but I couldn't change the resolution either
[02:22] <Bradley> yep sfears
[02:22] <kexp903> My computer is right next to the wireless hotspot but it's at 70%
[02:22] <YouKnowM1> Stwange: For me video editing was much faster, thats just me though
[02:23] <kexp903> what should I do, is there a better wireless  manager out there?
[02:23] <sfears> sounds like you picked a small partition
[02:23] <[sigh]> whenever I tried to change it, the config would just quit with no message and no results
[02:23] <Stwange> ok, I'm not going to be video editing, I have 1GB of ram, and all it has done is cause me firefox issues. I might reinstall with 32bit
[02:23] <Bradley> no i didnt have any it the partition manager sfears
[02:23] <leo_rockw> Stwange: that's probably a good idea
[02:23] <tokyoahead> guys does anyone else have problems getting rhythmbox to shuffle songs in a playlist?
[02:24] <soundray> Stwange: you might, although I personally don't have any trouble with 32bit programs in 64bit Ubuntu anymore since gutsy came out
[02:24] <YouKnowM1> kexp903: If you want true readings on signal strength then bust out a terminal and do "iwconfig" without the quotes
[02:24] <sfears> sounds like it's telling you it's going to take 500megs of a 1gig drive to install
[02:24] <leo_rockw> DOOM_NX: if you stopped it the installation never finished and you will have to end it properly
[02:24] <Stwange> soundray, I upgraded to gutsy from 7.07 (ie. not a clean reinstall) and it just gave me a whole load of nightmares with firefox and vmware
[02:24] <sfears> either get a bigger hard drive or format a bigger partition
[02:25] <DOOM_NX> leo_rockw, i want to cancel it
[02:25] <Bradley> no the drive is 500 gvs sfears
[02:25] <leo_rockw> DOOM_NX: ctrl+c didn't work?
[02:25] <kexp903> -youknowM1 the signal is weaker now I think it is getting weaker by the seconds
[02:25] <Bradley> would it just be a glitch or should i restart?
[02:25] <orudie> can anyone recommend whoi i should register a domain name with ?
[02:25] <Exodus> [sigh], your X server configuration file is in: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; inside the xorg.conf file is the configuration of your monitor and video card, I can send you a sample xorg.conf with so you can see how to set up a 16bit depth, 1024x768 800x600 alternative set up if you like.
[02:25] <sfears> that doesn't mean the partition is that big.. you may be tring to install onto a 1gig partition
[02:25] <soundray> Stwange: I definitely won't stop you from re-installing :)
[02:25] <Bradley> ok ill check that out but i never partitioned the drive sfears
[02:26] <kexp903_> youknowM1: the signal is weaker now I think it is getting weaker by the seconds
[02:26] <Stwange> orudie, 1and1 are cheap if you are just registering
[02:26] <[sigh]> I've editted xorg.conf already, including setting DefaultDepth, and if I change the resolution (from the gui at least), it tries to use 24-bit again
[02:26] <sfears> partitioning is the first part of the install
[02:26] <soundray> kexp903: is it a Ralink Technology chipset?
[02:26] <YouKnowM1> kexp903: idk, then it might be your hardware. A driver issue or controller problem wouldn't cause that.
[02:26] <sfears> you have to format something before anything will install
[02:26] <[sigh]> it shows up correctly for now, but it goes back to 24-bit when I change the resolution
[02:26] <kexp903> YouKnowM1: broadcom
[02:26] <Bradley> well it never did the partition, its just asking me to partition
[02:27] <Exodus> [sigh], in the xorg.conf, you have to make it so only 16bit exists, and 24bit is non existant
[02:27] <sfears> how many partitions are listed?
[02:27] <Exodus> I'll pastebin the screen section, where the resolution and depth is held, for a 16bit configuration.
[02:28] <Bradley> sfears: well im using the first option the automatic one
[02:28] <YouKnowM1> kexp903, Sorry I really don't know how to help you. Except make sure your antennas are straight up and your aren't blocking any of them. Or you don't have a microwave running, halogen lamps ect. ect.
[02:28] <sfears> is there anything on that drive that your trying to save?? or is it brand new?
[02:29] <Exodus> [sigh], don pay attention to the identifier and such, do pay attention to the default depth and modes: http://pastebin.com/m2514738f
[02:29] <Bradley> sfears: well, it has windows on it but thats all
[02:29] <sfears> that's your problem
[02:29] <Exodus> [sigh], See how there's only a 16bit depth configured, that's what you should have.
[02:29] <sfears> it's saving windows.. which is more than likly using most of the space
[02:30] <Bradley> sfears: well i have used 100 gb out of the 500 gb harddrive
[02:30] <sfears> it's trying to install on the little bit of space not being used by windows.. you either need to reallocate the windows partition to make some room for linux or erase the entire drive & repartition from there
[02:30] <Bradley> sfears: okay i think iget it, because windows is spread out on the drive
[02:30] <[sigh]> mine says "Defaultdepth 16", "Depth 16", and modes ranging from 800x600 to 1280x800@60
[02:31] <Exodus> [sigh], and no 24bit right?
[02:31] <sfears> i could be wrong.. because i'm not looking at what your working with
[02:31] <[sigh]> correct, I edited that out weeks ago
[02:31] <Exodus> [sigh], so when does it go 24bit then? when you do what exactly?
[02:31] <Bradley> sfears: ill make the partition in windows, then come back and see what happens
[02:31] <sfears> nah.. that's not how to do it
[02:32] <Bradley> sfears: what should i do?
[02:32] <deadlyallance613> what are the guidelines for partition sizes
[02:32] <sfears> when you use the linux installer.. it will bring you to a partition manager.. you have to either erase everything & use the automatic.. or use the manual and possibly move some things around
[02:32] <[sigh]> if I change the resolution, to say 1024x768 in system->administration->screens and graphics, the display shows up all wrong
[02:32] <Exodus> deadlyallance613, no guidelines really, just a bunch of suggestions, like, /home on a different partition is always good.
[02:33] <Bradley> sfears: i have there is only one partition, but when i do automatic it want to take soo much space
[02:33] <Exodus> deadlyallance613, / should have at least 5gb so you can install stuff.
[02:33] <mouseboyx> What are the tv capture cards that someone knows for a fact work with ubuntu or linux mce?
[02:33] <sfears> use the manual.. it should give you an option to resize the windows partition
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> mouseboyx: I use a pVR150... it works well, but the remote doesn't work, so i change channels w/ a terminal script
[02:33] <sfears> manual instead of automatic
[02:33] <IndyGunFreak> !hardware | mouseboyx
[02:33] <ubotu> mouseboyx: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[02:34] <Bradley> sfears: ok
[02:34] <Exodus> [sigh], change it from System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution
[02:34] <mohadib> even mens
[02:34] <Bradley> i wil
[02:34] <soundray> mouseboyx: Hauppauge works closely with free software developers -- most of their cards work
[02:34] <deadlyallance613> exodus i have about 68 gig and ive herd i should have 2x ram for swap and primery should be ext2 and extended should be ext3 right?
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> yup, Hauppage is good.
[02:34] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[02:34] <st1650> How would I do a recursive bash script to chmod -R 1777 a folder ?
[02:34] <Exodus> deadlyallance613, well, that depends, a swap partition is always needed, but how linux works, it will only use the swap when you're out of ram, or some programs use it, like the hibernating function
[02:35] <sfears> i have no idea st1650
[02:35] <Bradley> sfears: wow Ubuntu is installin fast... 48 percent already
[02:35] <soundray> st1650: why? -R already tells it to recurse
[02:35] <Bradley> !!!
[02:35] <ka2> deadlyallance613: primary should be ext3
[02:35] <Exodus> deadlyallance613, so, if you like to be able to "hibernate", keep your swap at least the size of your RAM
[02:35] <sfears> sounds like you have a pretty fast computer Bradley
[02:35] <kalani> test
[02:35] <st1650> soundray: I mean, like  1: chmod -R 777 /foo/bar  then GOTO1
[02:35] <[sigh]> hmm, that's working this time... last time I tried changing it in preferences it had no effect
[02:35] <soundray> kalani: that hasn't worked
[02:35] <kalani> <- Sorry, Newb
[02:36] <Bradley> sfears: not that fast, but damn, faster than windows vista... that rebooted once when installin
[02:36] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: i doubt its 48% COMPLETE all ready, i think it installs the kernel, then installs all the software.
[02:36] <soundray> kalani: nope, can't read you at all
[02:36] <Bradley> sfears: lol
[02:36] <kalani> how do i fix that?
[02:36] <soundray> st1650: what are you trying to achieve?
[02:36] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: maybe, i started a bit agot, but it say Installing System and the Copying Files
[02:36] <soundray> kalani: you're coming through faintly. Strike your keys harder
[02:37] <sfears> hi kalani.. i can read you
[02:37] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: ok, then you're actually installing now.. it usually takes about 10-15min for me..
[02:37] <joshritger> how do i get themes to work with compiz, I have ccsm installed, but how do i switch themes, do i need emerald
[02:37] <soundray> kalani: sorry -- just pulling your leg
[02:37] <kalani> weird, this better?
[02:37] <Exodus> deadlyallance613, if you have enough ram (say 2gb or more) and you don't really care much about "hibernating" with 1gb of swap is enough, all depends on what you plan on doing. If you're going to be encoding huge files, then well, you'll want to calculate all that.
[02:37] <kalani> haha, i know, it's still fun though...
[02:37] <soundray> kalani: wow, now you're bold
[02:38] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: Well its not moving as fast as b4 but its at 63... so yeah!
[02:38] <st1650> soundray: long story short; /storage1 is my /dev/sda4 partition for music storage. My hellanzb daemon downloads and transmission automatically downloads music from RSS scheduler; Now this music is automatically imported and indexed on ampache running lighttpd. My problem is this: lighttpd can't index the music unless I chmod 777 the /storage folder each time I get a new download, so I would fix the problem with some kind of auto-chmod every second
[02:38] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: hey just wondering should i duel boot to windows, use a VM... and if so should windows be the host or guest OS?
[02:38] <kalani> so, what happens here? never used this chat sys before
[02:38] <leo_rockw> Bradley: do you really need windows?
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: if you need windows, i would recommend dual booting
[02:39] <nickrud> kalani: bunches and bunches of channels, this is the help channel for ubuntu. #ubuntu-offtopic is for chatter, and   ircsearch.com will find you just about any group you want to talk to
[02:39] <sfears> well kalani this is an ubuntu help channel.. if you have an issue.. type it in and if someone here can help you out they will
[02:39] <Bradley> leo_rockw: lol, yes... for about everything i do... I Luv Microsoft Word... Powerpoint... Itunes, C++ etc
[02:39] <soundray> st1650: I see. 'while true ; do chmod -R 777 /foo/bar ; sleep 1 ; done'. Dirty hack, though
[02:39] <IndyGunFreak> i personally haven't had much luck w/ Vmware... blake___ left, but you might want to search the logs for his issues..lol
[02:39] <lazerquestion> yo!! i got a laser printer quesiton. has anyone here personally used one with linux?
[02:39] <Breakage> lol
[02:39] <leo_rockw> Bradley: openoffice, amarok. C++
[02:39] <st1650> soundray: I know, but believe me I tried everything
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: there's some Linux alternatives to Itunes
[02:40] <lazerquestion> i'm debating whether to go with one that goes directly to the computer, (usb or parallel) or just go right out and buy a network laser printer.
[02:40] <Bradley> IndyGunFrek: yeah i saw him, he was talkiing about that for a while
[02:40] <st1650> And unless I run httpd as root (very very bad idea)
[02:40] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: yes he was..lol
[02:40] <kalani> cool
[02:40] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, if you already own a printer, you can just purchase a small print server (allows a non-network printer to be addressable via ethernet)
[02:40] <sfears> kalani.. this whole network is pretty much just a chat/help network.. but there are lots of networks out there that easilly help you violate international copywright laws... those are the fun ones
[02:40] <leo_rockw> IndyGunFreak: lol
[02:40] <Unknown> yHello ubuntu users!
[02:40] <soundray> st1650: that bash loop should work, though.
[02:40] <Bradley> leo_rockw: right, but Visual C++ is a must, for stuff im doing... im just trying to test some applications under multibal OS's
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> leo_rockw: it was kinda hard not to laugh at him, i know he was frustrated, but geez.. it was his own ignorance.
[02:41] <kalani> even cooler
[02:41] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: that sucks that Steam coudnt give him the password, but i feel his pain
[02:41] <lazerquestion> i guess noones used a laser printer with linux?
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: do you use Itunes to buy music, or do yo steal it like the rest of us, adn just use itunes to sync your ipod?
[02:41] <nickrud> using a password that wasn't even his, that's where I pretty much lost sympathy
[02:41] <soundray> lazerquestion: don't make assumptions, just ask your question
[02:41] <leo_rockw> IndyGunFreak: yeah, i know. you can't err and blame the OS
[02:41] <lazerquestion> soundray, i did
[02:41] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: yup
[02:41] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, I answered u
[02:42] <sfears> kalani.. try typing "/list" it will list all the possible chat rooms on this particular network
[02:42] <lazerquestion> soundray, i asked wh
[02:42] <drc> reZo: Blake__ Not to mention he was mad 'cause he lost out on USD200 of someone else's games :)
[02:42] <lazerquestion> oh sorry, scollback got ahead of me
[02:42] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, apparently.
[02:42] <bloo`> shazaam
[02:42] <orudie> which command is for searching a particular file ?
[02:42] <kalani> thanks
[02:42] <sfears> yup
[02:42] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, the type of printer is not relevant. You can get a print server for little $ and it's about the size of a book
[02:42] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: i buy some stuff, and limewire some... but i have an Iphone, and im not sure that it sinks with anyother piece of software but Itunes yet.... also im not too much into opensource, i like the Microsoft, and thrid party touch
[02:42] <soundray> lazerquestion: go for a PostScript printer. HP are the most reliable and supportive of free software, but not the cheapest (purchase & maintenance)
[02:43] <osotogari> when creating multiple partitions should they be all primary?
[02:43] <leo_rockw> Bradley: frostwire > limewire
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: yeah, it might be best to dualboot in that situation...
[02:43] <kalani> so, what is a ubuntu
[02:43] <ryanzec> i have downloaded a login screen from gnome-look but can't seem to install it.  I go to login from system->administration and when i click add it does not show up
[02:43] <Bradley> leo_rockw: what is the diffrence, dont they use the same network
[02:43] <soundray> osotogari: no.
[02:43] <lazerquestion> soundray, YES! i'm not fully aware of what postscript is all about, or cups, or if any of it is realted. i'd love to shoot for a network laser printer so i can print stuff to my parents who live ~ 30mins away via vpn.
[02:43] <[sigh]> dualboot is a pain (to me anyway)
[02:43] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: i've gort a GPS device, that as hell getting to work under LInux... so after a year and a half of being windows free, I had to give Windows 20gigs fo my 200gig hard drive.. i probably boot it 2x a month
[02:43] <sfears> logical partitions can't be booted into or read without the primary partition active i think
[02:43] <leo_rockw> Bradley: limewire is capped, unless you get pro
[02:44] <Dangermike> !ubuntu | kalani
[02:44] <ubotu> kalani: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> [sigh]: really?.. its easier/more stable than vmware
[02:44] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: can you do both, a duel and a VM?
[02:44] <osotogari> @soundray: should i only have one primary partition and the rest logical?
[02:44] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, linux has a robust print driver library .. direct-print or IP-based
[02:44] <[sigh]> I hate rebooting :-p
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: i don't see why you couldn't
[02:44] <soundray> osotogari: that's a reasonable thing to do.
[02:44] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: might be a bit redundant
[02:44] <xecis> you could, but why would you?
[02:44] <kalani> ahhh, i'll check it
[02:44] <osotogari> @soundray: thanking you :)
[02:44] <nickrud> ah, IndyGunFreak I'm finally getting rid of my windows partition after booting it about 2x a month, don't need it anymore
[02:45] <lazerquestion> sweet. i'm tired of inkjet, they always dry up when i'm in the need to rpint something, since i print quite rarely. but i'm new to the laser world, and espeically the print/linux combination.
[02:45] <soundray> osotogari: you can have a maximum of four primary partitions, or three primary ones plus one extended. The extended holds the logical ones (I think up to 10 or 15)
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: lol, wish i could say that, but until Ubuntu has better support for TOMTOM, i'll have to use it
[02:45] <sfears> kalani.. ubuntu is a flavor of the OS (operating system) linux.. it's sort of like windows.. but it's not windows.. it's linux.. and it's not vista windows. it's ubuntu linux
[02:45] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: cool, hey btw linux, just found XP which i thought i didnt have anymore
[02:45] <IndyGunFreak> Bradley: well, apparently you do
[02:45] <nickrud> got really close once, but it sucked me back in
[02:45] <soundray> osotogari: but one primary plus one extended is a fairly standard scheme
[02:45] <lazerquestion> Bossmanbeta, so postscript is like cups, or they're not even related?
[02:45] <Bradley> leo_rockw: wow, that sucks... frostwire it is... lol, does it
[02:45] <jadams> I've got a Toshiba Satellite A510 (or thereabouts).  I'm using Hardy Heron, latest updates applied.  It's an AMD64 system, vanilla kernel.  My mic input is nothing but static.  What can I do to troubleshoot it?
[02:46] <kolby> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:46] <IndyGunFreak> nickrud: like i said, i was free for quite a while, but.. alas, had to come back.
[02:46] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, they're not related... but you can buy just about any printer on the market and linux will be able to print to it
[02:46] <nickrud> jadams: try asking on #ubuntu+1, that's hardy questions
[02:46] <osotogari> @soundray: great stuff, thanks for the help!
[02:46] <sfears> you have a dual boot system Bradley.. you might have to add a couple lines to your /boot/grub/menu.lst file.. but when you start your computer it will ask if you want to boot into linux or windows
[02:46] <Bradley> IndyGunFreak: nm, it was just an Acer recovery thingy... but Windows Vista, is still there
[02:46] <IceWewe> hello, I'm trying to transition from an IDE hard drive to a SCSI hard drive on a workstation and I'm getting a grub error 21 or "disk not found" yet the disk is set to boot in BIOS, and I've installed and updated grub...
[02:46] <jadams> nickrud, thanks
[02:46] <sfears> it will proally set up the dual boot by itself
[02:46] <usse1>  lazerquestion: postscript is one of the languages that allows pc to communicate with printer in order to format/print page.
[02:46] <soundray> lazerquestion: postscript is a page description language. Most Linux applications generate postscript, so if you have a printer that understands it, nothing can get Lost in Translation(tm)
[02:46] <Dangermike> can anybody help with a firefox bug thats *possibly* flash related i have tried: moving the .mozilla folder, starting with new profile, -safe-mode after all of this i had to reformat for a different reason and with a new install of Gutsy this issue still persists i have tried firefox versions <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, and firefox beta3. This also happens with epiphany and any other browser i install but i am focused on firefox since i have th
[02:47] <usse1> lazerquestion: its usually only implemented in expensive models, cheap ones are usually win printers
[02:47] <Bradley> sfears: it does, it was just an Acer Recovery thing that used an Win XP shell i think
[02:47] <lazerquestion> wow, crazy help. apprecaited for the info. is usb supported as good as parallel? or vice versa?
[02:47] <IceWewe> anyone for help with grub?
[02:47] <lazerquestion> usse1, that's what i'm worried about, i don't want to get a 'winmodem' equivlant in the printer world.
[02:47] <sfears> Dangermike, sounds like it might not be a firefox issue.. but an issue firefox is having with some other program
[02:47] <Exodus> IceWewe, what's the problem?
[02:47] <Dangermike> e bug report for it. Whilst testing no flash plugins (or any plugins) were installed but i have just installed the flash plugin and its still seg faulting heres the bug report link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/198301
[02:47] <sfears> what's up IceWewe
[02:47] <soundray> lazerquestion: it'll be hard to get a new parallel printer these days
[02:47] <IceWewe> Exodus: I'm trying to transition from an IDE hard drive to a SCSI hard drive on a workstation and I'm getting a grub error 21 or "disk not found" yet the disk is set to boot in BIOS, and I've installed and updated grub...
[02:48] <Bradley> sfears: linux doesnt want to enable desktop effects
[02:48] <usse1> lazerquestion: go with hewlett packard
[02:48] <Bradley> sfears: any work arounds
[02:48] <sfears> you might need to install nvidia drivers
[02:48] <IceWewe> Exodus, sfears: I've edited /etc/fstab to reflect the change from
[02:48] <sfears> what kind of video card do you have?
[02:48] <lazerquestion> so i'm assuming usb is quite supported for printers, and lasers specically?
[02:48] <Exodus> IceWewe, what's your grub.conf (menu.lst) look like?
[02:48] <usse1> lazerquestion: and if you going with lazer get a one that has network port not usb or parallel
[02:48] <lazerquestion> usse1, my idea ;)
[02:48] <Exodus> IceWewe, do you get a grub console at least? (like the one indicating what kernel to launch)
[02:48] <IceWewe> Exodus, sfears: sorry about that, I've changed it from 'hda' to 'sda' and the same thing with /boot/grub/devices.map and /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:49] <sfears> i wouldn't think fstab has anything to do with booting into a scsi drive
[02:49] <IceWewe> Exodus: no, I don't get to a grub console
[02:49] <Dangermike> sfears, yes i assume its something else but after a fresh install it began happening so i doubt its an issue with Gutsy in general or more people would be reporting problems  i was hoping to shead more light on what could be causing it to happen...There are about 8 bugs that are similar to mine that were closed due to a "buggy" version of gutsy being released with no other info so i dont know where to go next :\
[02:49] <Bradley> sfears: will it tell me, and also the computer i installed it on has ATI this one which im about to install on is a Nvidia, is there any prob. with ATI???
[02:49] <Exodus> IceWewe, did you do a grub-install /dev/sda ?
[02:49] <rrm> hi room... i did a minimal install  how can i access my usb drive?
[02:49] <soundray> Dangermike: you may have more than one flash player installed. Remove all flash-related packages, do a 'locate libflashplayer.so', delete them all, and re-install with apt-get.
[02:49] <usse1> lazerquestion: it's the only true interface anyway :P
[02:49] <sfears> not problems Bradley but you have to download and install restricted drivers
[02:49] <Dangermike> soundray, theirs no trace of that on my system
[02:49] <IceWewe> Exodus: yes, multiple times
[02:50] <IceWewe> Exodus: all met with "success"
[02:50] <icesword> rrm, you said hi room? ohh,how to access your usb,is it attached
[02:50] <Bradley> sfears: at the ATI site?
[02:50] <lazerquestion> usse1, that's what i'ms hoting for, network printer. i got everything installed, from win2k, winxp, linux, free and openbsd, and also got i386 and sparc64 in the mix, so, i think i need a network only printer, hehe
[02:50] <soundray> Dangermike: also remove any gnash or swf-player packages
[02:50] <Exodus> IceWewe, so basically when you boot that hard drive you get an inmediate black screen with an error? what does it say?
[02:50] <sfears> search synaptic for nvidia or ati.. whichever one you need.. and make sure  you also install the restricted drivers manger.. once installed system/administration/restricted drivers manager.. and make sure nvidia/ati is enabled.. reboot &  your extra desktop effects should work
[02:51] <IceWewe> Exodus: Grub loading stage 1.5 ... Grub Error 21
[02:51] <rrm> icesword... i do not have the graph... i did server install with x and fluxbox only
[02:51] <lazerquestion> i'd just hate to buy one and find out it doesn't work.
[02:51] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, what you using the BSD boxes for? (curious)
[02:51] <icesword> rrm, k,that is ok,now,is it attached to machine
[02:51] <usse1> lazerquestion: don't worry hp will work
[02:52] <lazerquestion> Bossmanbeta, freebsd's my fileserver, 4tb, and i have 2 openbsd boxes, ones for tcp/ip routeing/firewalling, and the other one is a transparent bridge between the firewall and my cable modem.
[02:52] <Bradley> sfears: ok
[02:52] <sfears> i don't think i'd be much help IceWewe i don't know anything about scsi.. i'd say /dev/sda would be the setting to use though
[02:52] <IceWewe> sfears: ok, thanks!
[02:52] <Bossmanbeta> 4tb fileserver, ... what you serving? :)
[02:52] <icesword> rrm, usually sudo mount -a
[02:52] <sfears> with 4tb.. what isn't he serving
[02:53] <lazerquestion> hehe, hash tables. and i also like to keep a hawks eye on what's going in/out of my network.
[02:53] <Exodus> IceWewe, well, error 21 is when a hard drive was not detected by bios, or was called incorrectly.
[02:53] <Bossmanbeta> hash tables? You running chess-servers? hash tables for what?
[02:53] <Exodus> IceWewe, you could possibly have a bad grub.conf / menu.lst
[02:53] <usse1> lazerquestion: what do you use for vpn?
[02:53] <lazerquestion> usse1, openbsd;;; Bossmanbeta  wpa ;)
[02:53] <soundray> Bossmanbeta: no drugs related discussion please
[02:54] <lazerquestion> haha, hash
[02:54] <Bossmanbeta> soundray, very funny :P
[02:54] <soundray> Bossmanbeta: (just kidding)
[02:54] <nickrud> badaboom
[02:54] <IceWewe> Exodus: I doubt it, as the same one works correctly with the IDE drive
[02:54] <lazerquestion> so you guys think HP all the way?
[02:54] <zdux00tv> Hi, how should I partition a hard drive for duel boot (gOS + Ubuntu)? Currently I have a swap and 1 ext partition.
[02:54] <orudie> bazhang: are you there?
[02:54] <Bossmanbeta> hash tables for wpa... so you hacking wifi?
[02:54] <sfears> well a scsi drive isn't an ide drive.. so that might be your problem
[02:54] <nickrud> lazerquestion: it's the only printer I've bought for years, they work hard at linux drivers
[02:54] <Bossmanbeta> I would think 4tb of hash tables would be overkill for that
[02:55] <sfears> your grub is looking for an ide & not finding it because the scsi is plugged in?
[02:55] <orudie> which command do i use to edit .conf files?
[02:55] <Exodus> IceWewe, what does you menu.lst look like exactly? www.pastebin.com
[02:55] <usse1> lazerquestion: well brother has some linux support for some of their printers but you never hear about brother these days
[02:55] <jm_> Can't open /etc/init.d/functions  ?
[02:55] <soundray> lazerquestion: the fewer hassles are worth the extra pounds/euros/zlotys
[02:55] <ryanzec> i have downloaded a login screen from gnome-look but can't seem to install it.  I go to login from system->administration and when i click add it does not show up
[02:55] <sfears> orudie, gedit,kate,vi
[02:55] <jm_> Trying to install slmodemd firmware
[02:55] <jm_> Any clues about  /etc/init.d/functions
[02:56] <nickrud> ryanzec: try unpacking it into /usr/share/gdm/themes
[02:56] <sfears> no idea jm_
[02:56] <lazerquestion> Bossmanbeta, well, not ONLY for hash tables, i have a shitload of reference material in pdfs and text, chm, etc etc. ranging from networking, os, construction guides, even automotive repair and transmission break downs, i do construction and have my own garage for money on the side.
[02:56] <jm_> sfears: Can't seem to find much googling either....?
[02:56] <orudie> can anyone recommend who i should register a domain name with ?
[02:56] <IceWewe> Exodus: http://pastebin.com/m5870cae2
[02:57] <sfears> godaddy.com orudie
[02:57] <jm_> sfears: Do you have /etc/init.d/functions ?
[02:57] <Bossmanbeta> ah... no doubt some .vobs and .mp4's and .mp3's on that same 4tb server <smirk>
[02:57] <sfears> no i don't jm_
[02:57] <jm_> orudie: What country are you in?
[02:57] <lazerquestion> hehe, a few here and there.
[02:57] <IceWewe> Exodus: yes, it's Debian, I'm asking in that channel too...
[02:57] <lazerquestion> alot of is is 720 and 1080, that stuff is quite large sometimes.
[02:58] <jm_> orudie: I use godady too, works for me, easy and affordable.
[02:58] <soundray> Bossmanbeta: unreleased blockbusters in full HD
[02:58] <lazerquestion> i got 8x500's stuff in it, but i'm gonna setup gmirror and have it backup.
[02:58] <soundray> there you go
[02:58] <Bossmanbeta> lol soundray
[02:58] <Exodus> IceWewe, well, that looks ok, and you sure you got the bios right?
[02:58] <ryanzec> nickrud, thanks
[02:58] <IceWewe> Exodus: positive, the SCSI hard drive is the first thing to boot and the SCSI card is setup for it
[02:59] <jm_> anyone know what to do about /etc/init.d/functions  ?
[02:59] <Bossmanbeta> unfortunately... 4TB would only hold about 600 dvd's
[02:59] <zdux00tv> Hi, how should I partition a hard drive for duel boot (gOS + Ubuntu)? Currently I have a 1 swap and 1 ext mounted at "/" .
[02:59] <Bossmanbeta> (standard...not blueray)
[02:59] <apt-nuke> "only"
[03:00] <jm_> What package do I install to get  /etc/init.d/functions ?
[03:00] <lazerquestion> Bossmanbeta, yeah, i shoot for xvid/divx. it all looks good on a 52" from 15ft away. i'm not a pixel freak, most people put the face into the screen and say "oh! i see rough edges!!" but seriously, who sits that close and points that out?
[03:00] <jm_> !functions
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about functions - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <jm_> !function
[03:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about function - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:00] <xp_prg> anyone know how to make a service startup on bootup in ubuntu when you start it like this :  /etc/init.d/ddclient start?
[03:00] <smacky> is it hard to transfer files from one hard drive to the other without the other having a os on it
[03:00] <sfears> what does that have to do with jm_
[03:01] <sfears> no smacky as long as it's formatted with the correct file system it should work
[03:01] <jm_> xp_prg: You can add to /etc/rc.local
[03:01] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, usually Star Wars nerds, and Star Trekkers... that ould compromise about 96.7% of all nerds in the industrialized world :-)
[03:01] <nickrud> jm_: according to apt-file , there is no /etc/init.d/funcitons , what do you expect from it?
[03:01] <zdux00tv> jm_: the only thing I could tell you about it is /etc/init.d is where the start up items are located, I've never heard of anything called "functions"
[03:01] <smacky> right on thanks
[03:01] <lazerquestion> Bossmanbeta, hahaaha
[03:01] <nickrud> *functions that is
[03:01] <lazerquestion> is 600x600 decent? i mean, does it look crisp without attacking it with a magnifying glass?
[03:01] <soundray> lazerquestion: yes
[03:02] <xp_prg> jm_ but what exactly do I put in there?
[03:02] <Exodus> IceWewe, and that hard drive in linux is detected as sda ?
[03:02] <IceWewe> Exodus: yes
[03:02] <lazerquestion> soundray, yes it's decent, or yes it's rough?
[03:02] <apt-nuke> can x-chat use samba file shares as a target for file downloads?
[03:02] <orudie> how long will it take for them to get my domain set up for me once i pay them ?
[03:02] <zaid>  hello
[03:02] <zaid>  i need some help in a C++ project
[03:02] <sfears> i wouldn't see why not apt-nuke
[03:02] <jm_> I see /lib/lsb/init-functions
[03:02] <soundray> lazerquestion: I printed my thesis on a 600dpi laser, including line-art images of cannulas that were just beautiful.
[03:02] <Bossmanbeta> apt-nuke, should be able to... it's a mountable resource like any other
[03:02] <jm_> Wonder if that's it?
[03:02] <nickrud> zaid: probably ask on ##c++ or ##c
[03:02] <lazerquestion> hmm, not worth the extra $ to get 1200?
[03:03] <sfears> why would there be two ## in a channel name?
[03:03] <Bossmanbeta> lazerquestion, unless yer printing out some pics of Jenna Jameson
[03:03] <zaid> nickrud: thanks
[03:03] <lazerquestion> hehe that 4tb isn't all reference and movies.
[03:03] <nickrud> jm_: that provides wrappers for use init.d scripts
[03:03] <Exodus> IceWewe, well, if you configuration files are ok, and your grub gets loaded to the master boot record of your hard drive without any problems, then the problem resides in your scsi controller configuration and your BIOS.
[03:04] <IceWewe> Exodus: ok, well the HDD is set to boot in BIOS and the only other thing I can think of is the SCSI controller setup, but I can't change the boot flag on the device...
[03:04] <orudie> how can search for some particular text once i'm in vi ?
[03:04] <jm_> nickrud: Well, I dono.  slmodemd sctip looks for /etc/init.d/functions and does not find it, is all I know.
[03:04] <tinman> orudie: i think it's /searchstring
[03:05] <soundray> jm_: how did you install slmodemd?
[03:05] <nickrud> jm_: hm. I think I should try to get my modem working ;)
[03:05] <orudie> how can i quit from vi ?
[03:05] <icesword> nickrud, hello
[03:05] <zdux00tv> how should I partition a hard drive for dual boot (gOS + Ubuntu)? Currently I have a 1 swap and 1 ext mounted at "/" . Where should I set the second mount at, do I need to create this directory first?
[03:05] <vignesh> orudie, exit
[03:05] <Bossmanbeta> orudie, type   :q
[03:05] <jm_> nickrud: Wonder if I could just ln -s /lib/lsb/init-functions /etc/init.d/functions  ?
[03:05] <leo_rockw> orudie: or :q!
[03:06] <soundray> jm_: how did you install slmodemd?
[03:06] <vignesh> orudie, to save and quit :x! , to discard and quit  :q!
[03:06] <Bossmanbeta> or to save and quit, you can type :wq!
[03:06] <Bossmanbeta> lol
[03:06] <zdux00tv> orudie: you might try nano, some features are that the arrow keys work, and the buttons type letters, control things (saving, opening) are all Ctrl+ button
[03:06] <bruenig> zdux00tv: swap, 2 root partitions
[03:06] <nickrud> jm_: better to answer soundray's train of thought first
[03:06] <leo_rockw> orudie: nano is simpler, vim is better (imo)
[03:06] <bruenig> arrow keys work in vim
[03:06] <jm_> soundray: nickrud So far, I've just downloaded and unpacked SLMODEMD.gcc4.1.tar.gz
[03:06] <ArrPirate> can someone help me please? I want my ntfs partition to automount upon login. I've been told to alter fstab and I tried to the best of my abilities but I can't get it to work. What should I add to fstab? The disk is at /dev/sda3 and normally mounts to /media/disk
[03:06] <Exfil> i need help porting Photoshop cs2 to gusty, i have the adobe folder in the program files directory under wine but i cant seem to get the right registry key imported, when cs2 loads up it says it is unactivated, but it is activated on the xp machine
[03:06] <Bossmanbeta> then there's gvim if you want vim in GUI form
[03:06] <soundray> jm_: there's your problem.
[03:06] <bruenig> I don't think ubuntu puts a lot of work into making vim usable though
[03:07] <zdux00tv> bruenig: so both mounted to "/" ?
[03:07] <bruenig> every other distro I have used it on, the arrow keys are success
[03:07] <bruenig> zdux00tv: yes
[03:07] <jm_> soundray: ?
[03:07] <Exodus> IceWewe, well you have to make sure that your scsi controller can boot from that hard drive
[03:07] <soundray> jm_: you should install software the ubuntu way. Watch out for private messages from ubotu
[03:07] <soundray> !software > jm_
[03:07] <leo_rockw> bruenig: arrow keys work on my vim
[03:07] <soundray> !modem > jm_
[03:07] <zdux00tv> bruenig: I didn't know that was possible
[03:07] <soundray> !repos > jm_
[03:07] <Krumar> ArrPirate, what have you done in fstab so far?
[03:07] <vignesh> i am using ubuntu 7.04... the update manager shows that an higher version of ubuntu is available.. if i upgrade to 7.10 through the upgrade manager, will all the applications i have installed be retained?? and how big will be the download size for 7.10??
[03:07] <zdux00tv> bruenig: I was just making a joke. After I found nano, I forgot about vi, it was too complicated for me
[03:08] <bruenig> zdux00tv: / is an imaginary thing
[03:08] <Bossmanbeta> vignesh, yep it will upgrade seamlessly
[03:08] <sfears> ArrPirate, your ntfs drive proally does automount.. do you mean you want it to show on your desktop?
[03:08] <vignesh> Bossmanbeta, seamlessly in the sense??
[03:08] <t0dk0n> hello, I have a problem with my xorg.conf... when GDM starts,  it starts in some awkward 1024x1140 or something resolution,  but I have xfce-mcs-manager restoring it to 1280x1024 when  Openbox starts
[03:08] <bruenig> zdux00tv: partitions are real, / is created essentially at boot
[03:08] <zdux00tv> bruenig: I thought I would need something like /boot ?
[03:08] <lazerquestion> soundray, a thesis?
[03:08] <nickrud> hm. can't find slmodem in gutsy
[03:08] <soundray> jm_: slmodem is easiest to install through System-Administration-Restricted Drivers
[03:08] <deadlyallance613> what should my mount point be ?
[03:08] <Bossmanbeta> vignesh, ...in the sense that there will be no seams... no problems........ no issues........ no problems... A OK, great.
[03:08] <zdux00tv> brunig: do I need to do something with grub ?
[03:08] <vignesh> Bossmanbeta, ty ..
[03:09] <soundray> lazerquestion: yes, on ultrasound-guided chest biopsies
[03:09] <vignesh> Bossmanbeta, and how big will the download be?
[03:09] <mariamystar> crimsun: you helped me with a soundcard problem a while back
[03:09] <Krumar> ArrPirate, what have you done in fstab so far?
[03:09] <mariamystar> crimsun: i was hopinfg you could help me again, i re-iinstalled with ubuntu studio
[03:09] <lazerquestion> woah, went over my head quicker then a f16.
[03:09] <vignesh> Bossmanbeta, because i have a limited download broadband connection..
[03:09] <tokyoahead> guys whats the best bittorent client for linux? one that can read RSS feeds?
[03:09] <Bossmanbeta> soundray, US guided?? Fluroscopy scares you? Little photons? ...interventional med student?
[03:09] <ArrPirate> I added "/dev/sda3        /media/disk ntfs auto defaults 0 0", saved, and rebooted... I did that because I saw something very similar in a forum post
[03:09] <deadlyallance613> should /boot be my mount point ?
[03:10] <Bossmanbeta> vignesh, the DL is a few hundred megabytes... I'd guess around 450megs or so
[03:10] <ryanzec> anyone recommend a good FTP with a descent GUI for 7.10?
[03:10] <ArrPirate> but it didn't work
[03:10] <sfears> ArrPirate, "ls /media/disk"
[03:10] <vignesh> Bossmanbeta, okie.. ty..
[03:10] <nickrud> ArrPirate: as in didn't work, what does that entail
[03:10] <soundray> Bossmanbeta: US is more flexible and accurate for pleura. This was 12 years ago anyway
[03:10] <Krumar> ArrPirate, what exactly is your problen?
[03:10] <Bossmanbeta> ryanakca, try FileZilla
[03:11] <vignesh> Bossmanbeta, wat about beryl?? will that also be retained??
[03:11] <Bossmanbeta> soundray, interesting... I hear about MR internventional.... the whole room in a magnet
[03:11] <NW2190> Hey, I'm installing Ubuntu Studio as a second distro on my computer, how do I go about partitioning without losing any of my existing data?
[03:11] <Bossmanbeta> vignesh, you should have no issues.... but feel free to ask the others.
[03:11] <vignesh> Bossmanbeta, ya ok ..
[03:11] <xp_prg> jm_ you herje?
[03:12] <jm_> xp_prg: Yes
[03:12] <xp_prg> what exactly do I put in the rc.local?
[03:12] <bluewraith> anyone know how to get to the physics settings for kiba-dock? I dont see them under the rest of the settings
[03:12] <jm_> soundray: Installing  sl-modem-daemon  :(