[00:16] <SEJeff> pochu, ping
[00:33] <SEJeff> I'm interested in getting the latest (just released) libproxy into Lucid.
[00:34] <SEJeff> Per upstream, it fixes a lot of bugs, is much faster, and has all around more cowbell
[00:34] <SEJeff> It also split off some internal stuff into another small library, libmodman.
[00:34] <SEJeff> pochu, Do you think this is feasable if I setup a ppa and nothing breaks?
[00:36] <SEJeff> It is API/ABI compat. Per upstream just now, libmodman hasn't been fully pulled out so it can remain in the same package.
[01:27] <seb128> baptistemm, grrrr
[01:28] <seb128> baptistemm, the change you dropped in bluez is not upstream
[09:17] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey
[09:17] <didrocks> good morning seb128
[09:17] <seb128> lut didrocks, c'est à cette heure là qu'on commence?
[09:18] <didrocks> seb128: euh non, je suis plus away depuis plus d'une heure moi :)
[09:18] <seb128> c'est ce qu'on dit
[09:18] <didrocks> ahah ;)
[09:18] <seb128> ;-)
[09:18] <didrocks> seb128: sinon, tu t'es encore couché tard, on dirait? ;)
[09:18] <seb128> didrocks, oui ...
[09:19] <seb128> I blame it on the ho,ckey
[09:19] <didrocks> hehe, when I read the logs, I was thinking about that :)
[09:24] <didrocks> seb128: I just said "hello" because you talked (and as you know, I /ignore join/quit, so not noticed when you arrived) :)
[09:25] <seb128> didrocks, :-)
[09:25] <seb128> didrocks, how are you otherwise today? ;-)
[09:26] <didrocks> seb128: good, thanks :-) it will be more "catchup and paperwork/bug triaging day". Nothing too much intellectual today ;)
[09:27] <didrocks> and you? looking forward for the week-end to have some sleep?
[09:27] <seb128> didrocks, and some updates? ;-)
[09:27] <seb128> weirdly I don't feel too tired
[09:27] <didrocks> seb128: right, as it's opened again \o/ (and it's not too hard for a .91 release normally ;))
[09:28] <seb128> but yeah weekend will be nice
[09:28] <seb128> though I'm in a getting things done mood today
[09:28] <didrocks> hehe, you will see tonight if you are still not too tired ;)
[09:29] <seb128> yeah
[09:29] <chrisccoulson> hey seb128
[09:29] <chrisccoulson> sorry, i went for breakfast there ;)
[09:29] <didrocks> hey chrisccoulson, last day? :)
[09:29] <seb128> when it's not cake it's breakfast
[09:29] <chrisccoulson> didrocks: yeah :)
[09:29] <seb128> !
[09:29] <chrisccoulson> lol
[09:30] <chrisccoulson> there's still cake left from yesterday, but i'm not eating any today
[10:12] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - i just saw bug 528255 in my inbox - that doesn't really need a manpage does it? (it's not the sort of binary that users should be running manually anyway)
[10:13] <seb128> no it's not in the user path anyway
[10:13] <slomo> seb128: i've updated totem with the patch in debian/experimental btw
[10:13] <seb128> it's in a lib private dir
[10:13] <seb128> slomo, hey
[10:14] <seb128> slomo, I did that in karmic too
[10:14] <seb128> slomo, and synced the new version
[10:14] <seb128> slomo, the codec install issue that guy was having with lot of files
[10:14] <slomo> seb128: great :) that's 2.29.91-1ubuntu1 then?
[10:14] <seb128> slomo, it turned to be bluez again
[10:14] <slomo> seb128: was it nekohayo? ;)
[10:14] <seb128> slomo, no, 2.29.91-0ubuntu2
[10:14] <seb128> slomo, yes
[10:14] <seb128> slomo, I need to resync on debian at some point
[10:15] <seb128> slomo, but we have changes like launchpad integration or bbc player
[10:15] <seb128> so we are not in sync for totem
[10:15] <slomo> ok, he reported that upstream too :) you should really do something about bluez in ubuntu before the release
[10:15] <slomo> debian has the bbc player too but with some changes iirc
[10:15] <seb128> slomo, I fixed it against yesterday
[10:15] <seb128> slomo, rank-1
[10:16] <seb128> baptistemm dropped that by error in lucid
[10:16] <seb128> against -> again
[10:16] <slomo> good :)
[10:16] <seb128> somebody should talk to upstream
[10:16] <slomo> is there a bug against the debian package and upstream too?
[10:16] <seb128> I don't think so
[10:16] <seb128> there was a disagreement on whether it's a gstreamer bug or not
[10:17] <seb128> or if changing the rank is right
[10:17] <slomo> well, they use the gstreamer api, they should use it the way it was intended to be used
[10:17] <seb128> I still don't get what the issue is exactly
[10:18] <seb128> they claim having capabilities they don't have?
[10:18] <seb128> in which case wouldn't fixing that be the fix
[10:18] <seb128> rather than changing the rank?
[10:19] <slomo> the sink has a rank >= marginal which means that it can be automatically chosen by gconfaudiosink/autoaudiosink. but when it is automatically chosen it won't work because it needs the device property to be set to the bluetooth device, without setting that property it simply fails
[10:20] <slomo> the problem here now is, that there is no mp3 decoder installed and the a2dpsink claims to support mp3. which results in it being chosen over alsasink, pulsesink, $stuff
[10:20] <seb128> "the a2dpsink claims to support mp3"
[10:20] <seb128> isn't that the bug?
[10:20] <seb128> or a bug?
[10:21] <slomo> i don't think so, i could imagine that there are bluetooth devices out there which could play mp3 data
[10:22] <seb128> ok
[10:22] <seb128> in any case I got the change in lucid for bluez
[10:22] <seb128> I will try to get that upstreamed too
[10:23] <slomo> thanks, and i'll create a debian bugreport now :)
[10:23] <seb128> thank you
[10:26] <huats> morning
[10:31] <seb128> lut huats
[10:34] <huats> hello seb128
[10:34] <huats> how areyou ?
[10:34] <seb128> good
[10:34] <seb128> you?
[10:35] <huats> good too !
[10:37] <seb128> chrisccoulson, bug #528337 you know about righT?
[10:38] <seb128> chrisccoulson, I mean you were speaking about a similar bug yesterday
[10:38] <seb128> what was it?
[10:48] <seb128> slomo, btw do you know if the fluendo mp3 codec create any issue?
[10:48] <seb128> I know we had bugs in the past in totem and rhythmbox for users who had it installed
[10:48] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - yeah, there's an issue with the notification area which can be worked around by hiding the status icon before unreffing it
[10:48] <chrisccoulson> the fallback status icon in libappindicator was not doing that
[10:49] <seb128> chrisccoulson, can you write than on the bug or maybe dup it?
[10:49] <chrisccoulson> but tedg fixed it yesterday
[10:49] <chrisccoulson> yeah, can do
[10:49] <seb128> chrisccoulson, if you have a clue about the issue ;-)
[10:49] <seb128> chrisccoulson, thanks
[10:49] <slomo> seb128: no idea, what are the problems?
[10:49] <seb128> slomo, none yet, just asking because the music store will pull that one by default
[10:49] <mvo> mpt: hey - in the report inappropriate dialog we have no "Reported by: ", but we do have this in the submit-review dialog. is this intentional?
[10:49] <seb128> slomo, so I'm trying to check we will not run in trouble
[10:50] <slomo> seb128: well, the pitivi homepage says that it shouldn't be installed :) i've to ask why
[10:51] <seb128> slomo, yeah, I was wondering about that too
[10:51] <seb128> slomo, seems pitivi has issues with codec installation too
[10:51] <mpt> mvo, yes. The point of having "Reviewed by:" is to nudge people towards making their reviews polite. But flagging a review isn't public, so it doesn't really need that.
[10:51] <mpt> Does that make sense?
[10:51] <seb128> slomo, the fixes from yesterday make totem work but not pitivi
[10:52] <mvo> mpt: yes, I thought that was the reason, just wanted to confirm. I was wondering if it does make sense to still have it in a "report window" to show that a report is also linked to the person reporting it (to avoid frivolous reports)
[10:52] <slomo> seb128: yes, that's a pitivi bug though... totem is more or less the reference implementation and if it works there everything is good ;) apart from that there are unit tests now for playbin2 to check if it behaves correctly
[10:52] <mpt> mvo, that's a good point. I'll update the mockup.
[10:53] <mvo> mpt: ok, thanks. either way is fine with me, I will add a "reported by" then
[10:53] <seb128> slomo, right, I though it would be a pitivi bug too ;-)
[10:57] <seb128> slomo, the dvd menus are still buggy with the current versions btw
[10:58] <seb128> the cursor doesn't change over items
[10:58] <seb128> and you can't click on those
[10:58] <slomo> seb128: ok :) please forward upstream then, i don't know much about the DVD menu stuff
[10:58] <seb128> ok, will do
[10:59] <slomo> dobey: ping
[11:01] <aquarius> if a new version of webkitgtk came out a week from now, with a new signal that I'd find useful, would we need an FF exception to get it into lucid?
[11:01] <aquarius> (I am imagining the answer here is "yes, of course you would" :))
[11:01] <seb128> aquarius, yes of course you would
[11:01]  * aquarius grins
[11:01] <aquarius> thought so
[11:01] <seb128> aquarius, I will just sync those anyway because epiphany-webkit need current webkit
[11:01] <seb128> we tend to be update for it
[11:01] <aquarius> seb128, aha, excellent.
[11:02] <aquarius> Right, I shall file a bug with the webkit people asking for my signal :)
[11:02] <seb128> that is your issue ;-)
[11:02] <seb128> but I guess if you want them to add it better to tell them
[11:02] <seb128> ;-)
[11:09] <didrocks> tseliot: with the nvidia proprio driver, I can't build any package which -lgl. I have a lot of linking issue (I hadn't them when I was using the one from the nvidia directly). Known issue?
[11:09] <tseliot> didrocks: on 64bit?
[11:10] <didrocks> tseliot: no, 32
[11:10] <tseliot> didrocks: what does ldconfig -p | grep GL say?
[11:10] <didrocks> tseliot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/384301/
[11:11] <tseliot> didrocks: what does /usr/lib/libGL.so point to? And what's the error that you're getting?
[11:12] <didrocks> tseliot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/384304/
[11:12] <didrocks> (I just paste a small part, I have tons of those errors)
[11:13] <didrocks> yesterday, I had to use pbuilder to get a chroot to build netbook-launcher
[11:13] <tseliot> didrocks: and what does libGL.so.1 point to?
[11:14] <didrocks> libGL.so.173.14.20
[11:14] <didrocks> (I used jockey to install the "current" version)
[11:18] <tseliot> something's wrong. libGL.so should point to the mesa libGL.so.1 file
[11:20] <slomo> seb128: you should probably remove gst-fluendo-mpeg{mux,demux} source packages, they're now contained in gst-plugins-bad0.10 since a long time
[11:21] <seb128> slomo, ok thanks
[11:21] <slomo> seb128: and i'm updating the mp3 decoder now, there were new upstream releases
[11:21] <slomo> seb128: should be safe with these versions :)
[11:22] <tseliot> didrocks: ^^
[11:22] <seb128> slomo, you rock, thanks!
[11:22] <didrocks> tseliot: it's not a clean install, I'll reinstall soon, so not a pb I can use pbuilder in the meantime. What is a little bit more annoying (and I get one confirmation by someone else on a clean box) is that Alt + 7 draws white square around your window (only with the nvidia driver) and nothing else (like when you do Alt + tab)
[11:23] <didrocks> (Alt + 7 is Alt + Shift + è in a french azerty keyboard and it's 7, not F7 :))
[11:23] <tseliot> didrocks: if you messed with the nvidia installer that's the least it can happen ;)
[11:24] <tseliot> try with a clean installation, then, if the problem persists, I'll talk to Nvidia about it
[11:24] <didrocks> tseliot: no, I can confirm that this appears with a clean install on someone else box
[11:24] <didrocks> see ^ :)
[11:24] <asac__> hola!!
[11:24] <didrocks> hey asac__
[11:24] <asac__> hi didrocks ...
[11:25] <asac__> so what 3D apps would be good demo apps for ubuntu? ;)
[11:25] <tseliot> didrocks: what is alt+7 supposed to do?
[11:25] <asac__> to my mind come games ... any other ideas?
[11:25] <didrocks> tseliot: nothing particular normally. Just in weechat, I use it to switch between chat room
[11:26] <didrocks> asac__: I pretty agree with games :) (yo frankie is in the repo?)
[11:26] <tseliot> didrocks: I mean, does it trigger anything else in Gnome?
[11:26] <tseliot> or Compiz or Mutter or whatever
[11:27] <didrocks> tseliot: I use metacity, not sure it trigger something, seb128 ? Alt + 7, no GNOME magic behind?
[11:27] <seb128> not that I know, what should that do?
[11:28] <asac__> what games are "top" atm? i quake3 feels kinda old ;)
[11:28] <didrocks> seb128: just to ensure it's not gnome or metacity making something bad (Alt + 7 is messing up here, I have a white square around the current window, as in Alt + tab)
[11:29] <seb128> I've no clue, alt-7 is not supposed to do anything no
[11:29] <seb128> it's a weird local config issue on your box I guess if you assigned that to something
[11:29] <didrocks> seb128: no, it's doing the same on another box for another user
[11:30] <seb128> I've just tried on my laptop and mini it does nothing as expected
[11:30] <seb128> not sure what your issue is...
[11:30] <didrocks> seb128: and it's used in weechat for switching between chat room, that's why I saw that (but it appears whenever the current window is)
[11:30] <didrocks> nvidia bin driver, as I don't have that with nouveau
[11:30] <didrocks> that's why I pinged tseliot :)
[11:30] <seb128> no nvidia there
[11:31] <seb128> but it's weird that driver react to a non assigned keybinding
[11:31] <seb128> could be weechat doing weird things
[11:31] <seb128> I can't say since I don't run it
[11:31] <didrocks> seb128: even with weechat closed and in another app
[11:31] <tseliot> seb128: yes, I doubt they have keybindings in the driver ;)
[11:32] <didrocks> I can just say someone else reproduce that switching to the nvidia bin driver too
[11:32] <tseliot> didrocks: let me test it on my computer. In what other apps can I reproduce the problem?
[11:32] <didrocks> asac__: yofrankie is in the repo, it's cool
[11:32] <didrocks> tseliot: with every apps, it's not particular to anyone
[11:32] <didrocks> (I just discovered it in weechat first as I used that keybind with it)
[11:33] <tseliot> ok, let me try here
[11:33] <didrocks> thanks tseliot :)
[11:33] <seb128> didrocks, stop drinking so much coffee you see things
[11:33] <seb128> ;-)
[11:33] <tseliot> thanks for reporting the problem ;)
[11:33] <tseliot> hehe
[11:33] <didrocks> seb128: I'm out of coffee!!! that can be the problem
[11:33]  * didrocks runs to grab some coke 0 to get some cafein :)
[11:34] <seb128> lol
[11:41] <chrisccoulson> didrocks - do you drink a lot of coffee too?
[11:41] <chrisccoulson> i ran out yesterday...
[11:41] <slomo> seb128: ok, so you want gst-fluendo-mp3 0.10.12-1 from debian/unstable :) i'm uploading it in a few minutes
[11:41] <seb128> chrisccoulson, you keep running out of coffee
[11:41] <seb128> slomo, danke
[11:42] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: not that much TBH :)
[11:42] <chrisccoulson> seb128 - that;s because i drink too much ;)
[11:42] <seb128> ;-)
[11:42] <seb128> we need a quote bot there :p
[11:42] <seb128> we could add that one without context :p
[11:43] <slomo> seb128: the ubuntu change is included already
[11:44] <seb128> slomo, ok
[11:47] <didrocks> seb128: I agree context for quoting is most of the time useless :)
[11:48] <slomo> seb128: no, you want 0.10.12.debian-2
[11:49] <seb128> slomo, noted ;-)
[11:49] <didrocks> asac: not sure you saw the "yofrankie is in the repo now" (http://www.yofrankie.org/ for more info)
[11:49]  * asac checks it out
[12:01] <ogra> is the fact that my mousewheel doesnt do anything when pointing to the volume applet and scrolling up/down a design decision or a bug ?
[12:13] <seb128> asac, hi
[12:13] <seb128> asac, bug #526411
[12:13] <seb128> asac, is that an issue somebody is working on?
[12:14] <seb128> asac, we default to amazon for searches in alpha3 due to that
[12:15] <asac> didnt you know that we have an amazon deal ;)
[12:15] <asac> lol
[12:15] <seb128> ;-)
[12:15] <seb128> I do now!
[12:15]  * seb128 blogs
[12:16] <asac> thats interestng ... i read tabout that bug, but i remember i tested it for de before we rolled out
[12:16] <seb128> asac, I get the issue on fr
[12:16] <asac> yeah
[12:16] <seb128> and ara get it on es
[12:16] <asac> one second
[12:16] <seb128> so I guess it's several locales
[12:16] <seb128> ok
[12:16] <asac> what do you have for browser.search.order.1 ?
[12:16] <asac> and browser.search.order.2 ?
[12:16] <asac> in about:config?
[12:16] <asac> and browser.search.defaultenginename
[12:18] <seb128> asac, the search order are set to chrome://ubufox/locale/ubufox-search.properties
[12:18] <seb128> both
[12:18] <seb128> same for defaultenginename
[12:19] <asac> oh
[12:19] <asac> hmm
[12:19] <asac> if you open that page what do you ge?
[12:20] <seb128> firefox can't find the file at jar:file:///.....
[12:20] <seb128> I'm not on the box having the issue so I don't have the exact url
[12:20] <seb128> I can pastebin that though
[12:20] <asac> seb128: err ... so on what box do you have chrome://ubufox/locale/ubufox-search.properties ?
[12:20] <asac> on the same box where you get jar:file:///.....
[12:20] <asac> ?
[12:21] <seb128> I'm doing all the testing on the mini but wait, that's the livecd booted so it doesn't have langpacks
[12:22]  * seb128 boots kvm install there
[12:25] <seb128> asac, ok, I've the fresh installed booted
[12:25] <seb128> so
[12:28] <seb128> asac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/384345
[12:30] <seb128> asac, the file before the "!" is there
[12:31] <seb128> asac, not sure if the "!.." after jar is buggy?
[12:31] <asac> hmm
[12:32] <asac> ok
[12:46] <tseliot> didrocks: I can't reproduce the problem with nvidia here
[12:46] <tseliot> didrocks: maybe it's a bug in nvidia-173? I'm using nvidia-current
[12:48] <didrocks> tseliot: hum, jockey tells me I have nvidia-current and use it
[12:48] <didrocks> tseliot: let me ask to the other guy, what should he checks?
[12:49] <tseliot> didrocks: but the output on pastebin said 173, no?
[12:49] <tseliot> libGL.so.173.14.20 is part of nvidia-173
[12:50] <didrocks> tseliot: it was from the -dev package right? as I told you this is a crappy box, I prefer the one from the other guy as his one is just a clean install, that's why I ask him :)
[12:50] <didrocks> and I have no idea since you added the alternative things what should I check to see what version I'm using
[12:50] <tseliot> didrocks: no, that's not from the -dev package but yes I suspect that your installation is bit messed up ;)
[12:51] <didrocks> tseliot: I'm totally sure my installation is messed up. I'm just surprised that someone else can reproduce it in a clean install :)
[12:51] <didrocks> if he didn't say that, I won't ping you :)
[12:52] <tseliot> didrocks: as I said, ldconfig -p | GL should show what libraries you're using. As regards checking alternatives: update-alternatives --display gl_conf
[12:54] <didrocks> tseliot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/384358/ I can change the symlink for GL if you want, I point it to the mesa driver?
[12:56] <tseliot> didrocks: it should point to /usr/lib/mesa/libGL.so.1 but that should only allow you to build things
[12:57] <tseliot> didrocks: if "ldconfig -p | grep GL" reports libGL.so.173.14.20, then your GL libraries are messed up
[13:03] <didrocks> tseliot: well, it reports nvidia-current. I tried to fix the symlink by hand in the meanwhile but still the error. I'll reinstall it soon, so, we will see. And I'll ask to what the other guy has done too
[13:03] <didrocks> tseliot: thanks for helping btw
[13:03] <tseliot> didrocks: np
[13:25] <dpm> hi pitti, are the automatic PPA build for karmic enabled? If so, may I ask you to disable them while we're testing the langpacks in karmic-proposed?
[13:29] <didrocks> dpm: pitti is not there today
[13:29] <dpm> ah, thanks for the info didrocks
[13:29] <didrocks> no pb :)
[13:59] <didrocks> seb128: ok, I hadn't the time yet to catchup everything, but at least, I try to do g-s-d, seahorse-plugins and g-c-c update
[14:01] <seb128> didrocks, chrisccoulson said he would do g-s-d and g-c-c
[14:01] <seb128> so maybe check with him before doing those?
[14:01] <seb128> you can resync gimp on debian otherwise too
[14:01] <didrocks> sure, chrisccoulson ^ ?
[14:01] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'll be doing those this afternoon
[14:01] <seb128> and there is probably some others on the list
[14:01] <didrocks> ok, let's for the gimp :)
[14:02] <chrisccoulson> i've just got a few loose ends to tie up in my current job before i leave ;)
[14:02] <didrocks> seb128: we already have merged on debian, they didn't update yet
[14:02] <didrocks> chrisccoulson: oh? my last day for me was just a… coffee day  )
[14:02] <didrocks> :)
[14:02] <chrisccoulson> didrocks - heh, i've still got a few things i need to finish ;)
[14:03] <chrisccoulson> but i'm not very motivated to do it now
[14:03] <seb128> didrocks, weird
[14:03] <seb128> didrocks, I see 2.6.8 in debian and 2.6.7 in lucid
[14:03] <didrocks> seb128: I'm looking at http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/versions.html
[14:03] <didrocks> no more cron update?
[14:04] <seb128> http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gimp.html
[14:04] <seb128> it has been updated like 6 weeks ago in debian
[14:04] <seb128> I need to check why versions get it wrong
[14:04] <didrocks> right
[14:04] <Keybuk> weird issue of the day - emacs23 appears to have the wrong dpi setting compared to other GTK+ apps
[14:04] <didrocks> that doesn't prevent me to resync so :)
[14:11] <seb128> kenvandine, Riddell: can you upgrade the releasestatus wikipage for this week dx, ols and kubuntu changes?
[14:11] <kenvandine> sure
[14:11] <seb128> thanks
[14:11] <Nafai> Is anyone else having problems connecting to launchpad?
[14:12] <seb128> connecting?
[14:12] <seb128> edge keeps login me out
[14:12] <seb128> but I can log in without issue
[14:13] <Nafai> n/m, it was just my browser being weird, it wouldn't even bring up the page
[14:13] <Nafai> restarted the browser, things are all good
[14:33] <asac> didrocks: yofrankie does not continue when i push play ;)
[14:33] <asac> (which i first read as "pray" ;))
[14:34] <didrocks> asac: oh really? :) That's a game you can't stop playing so :p
[14:34] <ogra> so *thats* the important tasks a tech lead has to do on fridays ? :P
[14:34] <didrocks> asac: I never tried the packaged version TBH, I tried it severall weeks ago
[14:34] <didrocks> ogra: you know, the release meeting… :)
[14:34] <asac> ogra: a customer wants that ;)
[14:34] <kenvandine> hey seb128, can you sponsor lp:ubuntu/rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store
[14:34] <kenvandine> ?
[14:34] <ogra> yeah yeah ...
[14:34] <seb128> kenvandine, ok
[14:34] <kenvandine> thx
[14:34] <asac> ogra: i didnt want to suggest them to optimize a game that doesnt run ;)
[14:35] <ogra> indeeed
[14:35]  * ogra grins
[14:39] <LaserJock> didrocks: should I mark the onboard/vlc bugs as fixed on your lucid-bugs wiki page?
[14:39] <didrocks> LaserJock: sure, I was just going to do that but if you can do it, it's perfect :)
[14:39] <asac> didrocks: it says something like:
[14:39] <asac> read library: lib //frankie_actions.blend
[14:39] <asac> read library: lib //momo_actions.blend
[14:39] <asac> No CDROM devices available
[14:39] <asac> maybe the data fils are missing?
[14:39] <asac> e.g. it tries to find them on CDROM?
[14:40] <didrocks> asac: it seems yeah. I can find some time to try it on Monday afternoon if you want
[14:40] <didrocks> asac: again, I installed the tarball from upstream some month ago
[14:40] <didrocks> oh wait, there was a post on planet ubuntu when it was packaged
[14:40]  * didrocks searches
[14:41] <CardinalFang> Hah ha ha... ouch.  Ugh.  http://rhodesmill.org/brandon/2010/ubuntu-exception-190-modules/
[14:41] <Riddell> seb128: playing pitti for the day?
[14:41] <seb128> Riddell, yes
[14:42] <Riddell> seb128: I updated the page, I'll be out but scottk can speak up for us at the meeting
[14:42] <seb128> Riddell, ok thanks
[14:42] <didrocks> asac: no, nothing related to missing data in the post (http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2010/02/yo-frankie-to-be-available-for-masses.html)
[14:43] <asac> i just wondered because apt-geinstall didnt really install the expected 100MB of data
[14:45] <asac> and .. no need to look ;) ... i will talk to bdrung who seems to be the maintainer
[14:45] <LaserJock> didrocks: do you have a "to be fixed by beta1" list yet?
[14:45] <didrocks> LaserJock: not yet, I can setup it in one hour if you want to play during the week-end :)
[14:45] <didrocks> asac: ok, thanks. Keep me in touch :)
[14:46] <LaserJock> didrocks: yeah, that'd be cool
[14:46] <didrocks> LaserJock: ok, let me test before uploading some stuff first and I ping you then :)
[14:47] <CardinalFang> pitti, I'm marking  https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/apport/+bug/528355  as medium-importance.  It's embarrassing but not a huge problem.
[14:50] <LaserJock> didrocks: sure sure, no rush. I'm just starting my day :-)
[14:57] <seb128> rickspencer3, hey
[14:58] <rickspencer3> hiya seb128
[14:58] <seb128> rickspencer3, how are you?
[14:58] <kenvandine> hey rickspencer3
[14:59] <rickspencer3> I'm doing ok, how about you seb128?
[14:59] <rickspencer3> hi kenvandine
[15:00] <seb128> rickspencer3, I'm good thanks
[15:00] <seb128> I'm happy I figured what is making ubiquity crash there
[15:00] <seb128> too make some hours
[15:01] <seb128> took make some hour
[15:01] <seb128> rather ;-)
[15:02] <didrocks> hey rickspencer3
[15:08] <rickspencer3> hi didrocks
[15:08] <rickspencer3> nice job on the ubuntu-cli template
[15:08] <rickspencer3> that will be really popular, and is a good model for other templates
[15:08] <didrocks> thanks :-)
[15:08] <rickspencer3> I'll try my pygame template on the plane tomorrow
[15:08] <kklimonda> why are those templates are called "ubuntu-cli" and "ubuntu-project? :)
[15:08] <didrocks> rickspencer3: oh, you are travelling next week?
[15:09] <rickspencer3> didrocks, visiting my parents
[15:09] <rickspencer3> I"ll be working as normal
[15:09] <didrocks> oki :)
[15:09] <rickspencer3> kklimonda, because the templates are full of distro specific functions
[15:09] <rickspencer3> like on ubuntu, you make debs
[15:09] <rickspencer3> and you use PPAs for hosting
[15:09] <rickspencer3> the boiler plate may or may not be distro specific
[15:10] <kklimonda> I see
[15:10] <rickspencer3> kklimonda, is there another distro that you would like to make a template for?
[15:10] <rickspencer3> we would love to help, just hop into #quickly
[15:10] <kklimonda> rickspencer3: there are other distros? ;)
[15:10] <rickspencer3> lol
[15:10] <rickspencer3> yes, and we love them
[15:10] <rickspencer3> I would love to see some for debian
[15:10] <Nafai> I only know of Debian and Ubuntu
[15:10] <Nafai> :)
[15:11] <rickspencer3> and some for Fedora would be nice
[15:11] <LaserJock> rickspencer3: has anybody done git/GitHub yet?
[15:11] <rickspencer3> maybe a c-based one for Fedora for folks who are targetting gnome more generally than just Ubuntu, etc...
[15:11] <rickspencer3> LaserJock, not yet
[15:14] <chrisccoulson> right, home time for me :)
[15:14] <chrisccoulson> bbl
[15:14] <rickspencer3> bye chrisccoulson
[15:21] <didrocks> LaserJock: I have added a tag "Target Beta 1" in front of bugs that I wish we can fix because beta 1 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNE/lucid-bugs. I tried to have low hanging fruit and more complicated stuff as a target. I've added also all the "needs check" as a target as it can be quickly done
[15:22] <LaserJock> didrocks: ok great
[15:22] <didrocks> LaserJock: just assign the bug to you if you want to work on something so that we don't double the effort
[15:22] <LaserJock> didrocks: will do
[15:22] <didrocks> LaserJock: thanks a lot, if we can clear the list, that would rock!
[15:31] <LaserJock> didrocks: so "Should be fixed, need checking" are bugs are older bugs that might have been fixed already but the bug hasn't been closed?
[15:32] <didrocks> LaserJock: right. Most of those bugs should have been triggered by non 3D driver. I expect to 3D/2D fallback to cover 80% of the case where netbook-launcher just crashed before. We need to ask those people to try lucid to see if they still suffer from it (and ask for graphic card/driver used if they didn't report it)
[15:33] <LaserJock> didrocks: I was just looking at bug #252920 and it looks like it's still there to me
[15:35] <didrocks> LaserJock: really? let me check as I used that IIRC
[15:37] <didrocks> LaserJock: oh right, the bug is still there
[15:38] <didrocks> LaserJock: you can change the upstream status and maybe update the page to a previous section?
[15:38] <LaserJock> didrocks: sure
[15:38] <didrocks> sweet, thanks!
[15:53] <didrocks> seb128: do you still have your gimp branch? it seems you didn't push the last version
[15:54] <seb128> didrocks, let me look
[15:54] <didrocks> it's old in November :)
[15:56] <seb128> didrocks, no, is it in bzr?
[15:56] <didrocks> seb128: yes, in ~ubuntu-desktop/gimp/ubuntu. No worry, I include your changes
[15:58] <rickspencer3> seb128, remember that "sound delay" bug in pygame
[15:58] <rickspencer3> is this it?
[15:58] <rickspencer3> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pygame/+bug/295369
[16:04] <seb128> didrocks, thanks
[16:04] <seb128> rickspencer3, yes
[16:06] <rickspencer3> seb128, this needs fixing
[16:06] <seb128> rickspencer3, yes sir!
[16:06] <rickspencer3> seb128, who should I assign it to?
[16:06] <rickspencer3> lol
[16:07]  * rickspencer3 whip cracking noises
[16:07] <seb128> hum, that is a good question
[16:07] <rickspencer3> TheMuso ?
[16:07] <seb128> the issue seems an interaction with pulseaudio one
[16:07] <rickspencer3> I'm wondering if perhaps pygame is not using pulse correctly?
[16:07] <seb128> I would suggest asking TheMuso if he has some idea about it yes
[16:07] <rickspencer3> I'm betting there is a patch somewhere for htis
[16:08] <seb128> I had a quick look to other distribution packages by then
[16:08] <seb128> but I didn't spot one
[16:08] <seb128> and upstream website was down
[16:09] <rickspencer3> hmmm
[16:09] <rickspencer3> the delay is bearable on my desktop
[16:09] <rickspencer3> but seemed bad on my netbook
[16:22] <chrisccoulson> gnomefreak - i'm not sure i understand what your issue is on bug 495773?
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> does the screensaver never activate, do the animated screensavers not work, can you not manually activate the screensaver?
[16:23] <chrisccoulson> Dear launchpad, please stop logging me out
[16:26] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: none of them work. screen goes blank when a screensaver should start
[16:27] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: atm i havent found one that works
[16:27] <chrisccoulson> ah, ok. does the preview work in the preferences dialog?
[16:27] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: yes
[16:27] <chrisccoulson> and it works if you run something like /usr/lib/xscreensaver/gltext ?
[16:28] <gnomefreak> IIRC all previews work
[16:28] <chrisccoulson> could you do "killall gnome-screensaver && gnome-screensaver --debug --no-daemon 2>&1 | tee ~/gnome-screensaver.log" and attach the log file to the bug report after activating the screensaver?
[16:28] <gnomefreak> yes it works using that command. well at least it works in the box
[16:29] <chrisccoulson> also, does the lock dialog work ok?
[16:29] <gnomefreak> ok one minute
[16:29] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: it did at one point but i disabled it
[16:29] <chrisccoulson> that's strange then. the lock dialog uses the same mechanism for appearing on the screen
[16:30] <chrisccoulson> anyway, the verbose output from gnome-screensaver might give some hint
[16:30] <gnomefreak> gnome-screensaver: no process found
[16:32] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, there should be one already running
[16:32]  * gnomefreak started it first lets see what it gives me
[16:32] <chrisccoulson> that might be why you just get a black screen
[16:32] <chrisccoulson> if there is no gnome-screensaver running, you'll just get the built-in Xorg screensaver
[16:33] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: i uploaded file to bug report
[16:33] <chrisccoulson> thanks
[16:34] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: np
[16:41] <gnomefreak> chrisccoulson: openID has gone under some changes that maybe why you cant stay logged in
[16:47] <ccheney> got called to come back in to the doctor to have them check me out
[16:48] <ccheney> apparently they didn't think that my muscle pain, etc was caused by the meds even though it has a blackbox warning for that specifically
[16:49] <ccheney> will be interesting to see what they come up with, heh
[17:18] <LaserJock> didrocks: ok, I went through "Should be fixed, need checking" and 2 weren't fixed, 2 are fixed, 1 I'm waiting to hear back, and 1 I couldn't figure out how to test easily
[17:19] <didrocks> LaserJock: good progress! thanks for your work there
[17:23] <LaserJock> didrocks: so for the n-l-efl ones are we testing if the automatic fallback works?
[17:23] <LaserJock> or do they need to explicitly do something?
[17:25] <didrocks> LaserJock: no, it's just about checking that they get at least something (the new or previous launcher)  :)
[17:40] <LaserJock> didrocks: ok, went through those and now they all have requests for a retry in Lucid
[17:40] <didrocks> LaserJock: can you put a comment on the wiki page to mark that? :)
[17:43] <LaserJock> sure
[18:02] <Nafai> I wish when I used aptitude changelogs were available more often when I hit C
[18:22] <rickspencer3> seb128, kenvandine, bryceh, ccheney, didrocks, Riddell, I'm taking off for the day in about 30 minutes
[18:22] <rickspencer3> please let me know if  you need somethign before then
[18:22] <seb128> rickspencer3, have a good weekend!
[18:22] <rickspencer3> I'll be available by cell of course
[18:23] <seb128> no, I'm about to take off too
[18:23] <rickspencer3> thanks seb128
[18:23] <rickspencer3> all, please note that I will be gone ...
[18:23] <rickspencer3> thanks seb128
[18:24] <bryceh> rickspencer3, cya
[18:26] <didrocks> rickspencer3: everything's ok. Have a safe travel :)
[18:26] <rickspencer3> thanks didrocks
[18:27] <rickspencer3> I should have the pygame template ready by Monday
[18:27] <didrocks> rickspencer3: sweet, I'll tweak the create command a little this week-end to be more generic and merge philip's proposal as well :)
[18:28] <didrocks> 3 templates in Quickl 0.4 ;)
[18:28] <rickspencer3> didrocks, ok
[18:28] <rickspencer3> but I think it's working ok for me
[18:28] <rickspencer3> I am just copying the ubuntu-project template
[18:28] <rickspencer3> seems to work so far
[18:28] <didrocks> rickspencer3: you mean, having the same file names, right?
[18:34] <didrocks> seb128: care about sponsoring gimp before the week-end? got a reject :)
[18:34] <seb128> didrocks, where is it?
[18:34] <didrocks> seb128: lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gimp/ubuntu
[18:35] <didrocks> seb128: there is one regression which is "click on help menu, and gimp is frozen"
[18:35] <didrocks> (if you don't have help installed)
[18:35] <seb128> ok
[18:36] <didrocks> seb128: it's reported upstreamed, I didn't checked 2.7 to see if it's fixed already. Doing that on Monday
[18:36] <seb128> no hurry don't worry
[18:36] <didrocks> sweet, thanks  :)
[18:38] <seb128> didrocks, can you copy the gimp .dsc .changes .diff.gz somewhere rather?
[18:38] <seb128> didrocks, if you still have those
[18:38] <seb128> that will avoid me downloading the orig tarball
[18:40] <didrocks> seb128: sure
[18:40] <seb128> didrocks, thanks
[18:41] <didrocks> seb128: LP keep it when he rejects an upload? You won't have to (as it's a new upstream version)
[18:41] <seb128> didrocks, no it doesn't
[18:42] <seb128> didrocks, but I will wget the debian one from a dc box
[18:42] <seb128> and dput from there
[18:42] <seb128> so I just have to design and scp the .dsc and .changes from there
[18:42] <seb128> design -> debsign
[18:44] <didrocks> seb128: ok. it's there: http://people.canonical.com/~didrocks/gimp/
[18:44] <didrocks> seb128: it's the new quilt format btw
[18:45] <seb128> I noticed from the changelog, thanks
[18:46] <didrocks> well, I think it's time to enjoy some rest :)
[18:46] <didrocks> have a nice week-end seb128
[18:46] <seb128> didrocks, same there, thank you, you too!
[18:46] <didrocks> and enjoy to end of the olympic games :)
[18:46] <kenvandine> have a nice weekend didrocks
[18:46] <didrocks> thanks!
[18:46] <didrocks> you too kenvandine
[20:15] <seb128> 'night, have a good weekend everybody, see you later
[20:15] <seb128> bye
[20:51] <chrisccoulson> kenvandine - do you remember in karmic that there was an issue with empathy drawing a black line in the notification area? (which you fixed)
[20:52] <chrisccoulson> empathy seems to be doing the same again now. i'm not sure if you've noticed that yet
[20:52] <kenvandine> yeah
[20:52] <kenvandine> oh?
[20:52] <kenvandine> i hadn't noticed!
[20:52] <kenvandine> running a dark theme
[20:52] <chrisccoulson> kenvandine, bug 528637 FYI
[20:52] <chrisccoulson> yeah, you might not notice it with the dark theme ;)
[20:52] <chrisccoulson> i'm just using the stock theme
[20:53] <kenvandine> switched themes... not seeing it
[20:53] <kenvandine> although in karmic it wasn't there all the time
[20:53] <chrisccoulson> yeah, it doesn't happen all the time
[20:54] <chrisccoulson> i only notice it occasionally, but it only ever happens with empathy open
[20:55] <kenvandine> indeed... when empathy starts i see a line flicker there
[20:55] <kenvandine> but it goes away
[20:55] <kenvandine> wtf
[20:56] <kenvandine> it was because it does new_notification_with_icon
[20:57] <kenvandine> so the notification is tied to the status icon
[20:57] <kenvandine> but with our patch, it shouldn't do that
[20:57] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i'm not sure. you understand the issue better than i do ;)
[20:58] <chrisccoulson> kenvandine, do you want me to assign the bug to you?
[20:58] <kenvandine> please do
[20:58] <chrisccoulson> cool, thanks
[21:00] <Sarvatt> hmm, is the gpm applet all screwy for anyone else? it shows the battery state right, but the dropdown is empty when I click on it and right click - about thinks its indicator applet
[21:02] <chrisccoulson> Sarvatt - please upgrade to the latest version :)
[21:02] <chrisccoulson> it's already fixed
[21:02] <chrisccoulson> someone else just reported the same issue, and they're still using the broken version too
[21:04] <Sarvatt> ahh i switched away from the main mirror because it was so slow, my new mirror must be really behind
[21:05] <Sarvatt> i'm still on ubuntu8 and theres nothing new, thanks chrisccoulson
[21:05] <chrisccoulson> Sarvatt, ubuntu9
[21:06] <Sarvatt> yeah i saw, the mirror i was using stinks :)
[21:06] <chrisccoulson> heh, yeah, thats why i don't use a mirror for the development release
[21:07] <Sarvatt> i just switched for a bit because the 10KB/second speeds for a few days were getting to me and forgot to switch back
[21:07] <chrisccoulson> yeah, sometimes the speed sucks, but i don't normally have an issue
[21:08] <chrisccoulson> (except at release time)
[21:08] <Sarvatt> jeeze 142MB of updates now
[21:09] <chrisccoulson> lol
[21:09] <chrisccoulson> your mirror is quite out of date then ;)
[21:15] <kenvandine> chrisccoulson, thx for pointing that out, it looks like someone combined a couple of the patches into the libindicate one and reverted that fix
[21:16] <chrisccoulson> kenvandine, ah, good catch. thanks!
[21:18] <Nafai> I was wondering what the black line was I was seeing up there
[21:27]  * kenvandine merged it back in.. testing
[21:41] <chrisccoulson> kenvandine, thanks for fixing it :)
[22:15] <dyek> Hi! Where can I find pv-grub? Is there a package that contains this (Xen?) utility?
[22:15] <chrisccoulson> fantastic. i've got to recover my file system, again
[22:17] <desrt> dyek: this is quite an odd channel to be asking this question.
[22:20] <dyek> desrt: Sorry. Which channel is the best for this Ubuntu package-availability question?
[22:20] <chrisccoulson> #ubuntu?
[22:21] <dyek> chrisccoulson: OK! Thanks!
[22:27] <chrisccoulson_> kenvandine - did you say you were getting corrupted filesystems?
[22:29]  * ccheney is upgrading his main dev box to lucid :)