[07:29] <joot> kroffe, So does work for you????
[07:29] <betapi> stan: windows and macos are even MORE expensive.  ubuntu is the  cheapest, I just can't afford to fix it
[07:29] <tritium> betapi: time for you to stop trolling, please
[07:29] <nathanhelp> betapi:  my hours are 65/h. that still means i have to learn how to use ubuntu.
[07:29] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: glxinfo
[07:29] <stan> betapi, why are you in a linux support channel asking about costs to fix linux?
[07:29] <sfer21> betapi: does the bios have enough function for you?
[07:29] <betapi> Templar_Xion: please, spare me your pity.  it is the only way i can support my family
[07:29] <leon> bullgard4,  thank you , i got msg, . thanks all guys
[07:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> in which case, its still broken, :(
[07:29] <kroffe> joot, yes. im tryed to get a ftp server for about 15 hours and now it works =)
[07:29] <Templar_Xion> tritium: I think you are the winner. troll I'd have to agree.
[07:29] <betapi> sfer21: bios can break too
[07:29] <Thrashbarg> betapi: do you make money when you sleep, eat, and so on... send a bill to God?
[07:29] <Ezro> Well Templar/Nathan: How does Ubuntu work as a server?
[07:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> sudo aticonfig --initial -f returls segment fault, :(
[07:30] <sfer21> betapi: OH NOES!!! THROW OUT TEH COMPUTER, IT CAN BREAKS AND YOU CANT AFFORD FIX IT!
[07:30] <Templar_Xion> Ezro: Works great, depending on what yo uwant to serve.
[07:30] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: You're not supposed to be using that
[07:30] <stan> betapi, i have this crappy dell x300 laptop that was bluescreening in windows 20 minutes ago. My fix was to pop a cd in, go get dinner, and now it works 100% .. no configuraiton.. wireless works.. i can surf the web.. and all my work apps are installed.
[07:30] <sfer21> Now, can we move this to offtopic?
[07:30] <Ezro> Well I want to host an online game.
[07:30] <betapi> Thrashbarg: no, but I cut down on the times I allot to sleeping and eating so that I can save $
[07:30] <joot> kroffe, Good for you sorry I did not know about ftp sevrer to help you....
[07:30] <stan> betapi, what would that have 'cost me' if I had to restoer windows?
[07:30] <nathanhelp> Ezro: same answer as before :) what do yo uwant to do?
[07:30] <Templar_Xion> Ezro: One that you coded?
[07:30] <Ezro> Yes.
[07:30] <joot> server
[07:30] <betapi> sfer21: i would rather sell it and get another one
[07:30] <stan> betapi, 2 hrs install, 2 hrs drivers, 3 hrs windows updates?
[07:30] <kroffe> joot, its okey.
[07:30] <tritium> betapi: last warning, really
[07:30] <betapi> stan: i am not saying windows is good.  i have never used windos.  it is too expensive.  that is why i am looking into ubuntu, which is slightly cheaper
[07:30] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau, nothing else is working man, i tried http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
[07:30] <sfer21> betapi: but what about the time spent selling it? that devalues your computer immediately
[07:31] <kroffe> joot, it is good to try self sometimes
[07:31] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: aticonfig tries to read xorg.conf and set it to use the fglrx with options for it. You have no xorg.conf (or you shouldn't with Intrepid)
[07:31] <draginxx> How can I save a folder that has 5,000 sub directories in it? Its a ubuntu-server not desktop, was wondering if gziping it would bebest?
[07:31] <stan> betapi, you mean free?
[07:31] <sinbox> you've just wasted $6.25 talking about this betapi
[07:31] <ello> ðóäääääääääääùùùùùùùù
[07:31] <betapi> sfer21: yes, which is why I try to sell it fast
[07:31] <ello> hello
[07:31] <ello> hello
[07:31] <Templar_Xion> Ezro: Well. thta goes beyond the realm of my knowledge but you'd have to code in platform-generic language and not have anything requiriing windows and you should be fine, but would get complicated.
[07:31] <FloodBot1> ello: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:31] <ello> hello
[07:31] <stan> hahah.
[07:31] <betapi> sinbox: please, i am trying to go fast with it
[07:31] <ZupZupper> BilatNimo, is Malta close?
[07:31] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: You're supposed to be using the open driver
[07:31] <imaginen2> ubuntu is free
[07:31] <joot> kroffe, Is what I do a lot look here first then try some stuff :-))
[07:31] <ello> hello,people
[07:31] <BilatNimo> ZupZupper: i don't know. what is it, anyway?
[07:32] <ZupZupper> BilatNimo, it's a country
[07:32] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:32] <nathanhelp> Ezro: I myself do not yet know how to make a server, but my linux friend runs his entire house off ubuntu and various linux boxes. Servers are run well and last long time.
[07:32] <ZupZupper> http://mirror.linux.org.mt/ubuntu/pool/
[07:32] <qb|away> malta is far
[07:32] <kroffe> joot =)
[07:32] <sfer21> !calltheops
[07:32] <qb|away> it is near europe
[07:32] <qb|away> east
[07:32] <Ezro> Hm.
[07:32] <qb|away> one of the key point islands in the 2nd world war
[07:32] <dashyn4ik> everybody
[07:32] <dashyn4ik> ((((((((
[07:32] <tritium> sfer21: ?
[07:32] <dashyn4ik> hello
[07:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/f21bf2b65
[07:32] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Or do you want Xorg.0.log.old ?
[07:33] <Ezro> Ubuntu has a gui right?
[07:33] <leon> "create usb startup disk"  can not accept a usb hard disk?  I want to create a startup disk, livecd is veryslow....
[07:33] <ZupZupper> qb|away, you know which mirror is close the the Phillippens?
[07:33] <nathanhelp> correct
[07:33] <dashyn4ik> hello
[07:33] <dashyn4ik> hello
[07:33] <dashyn4ik> hello
[07:33] <FloodBot1> dashyn4ik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:33] <ZupZupper> Erzo yes
[07:33] <Templar_Xion> Ezro: yeah
[07:33] <sfer21> tritium: ?
[07:33] <CountryTrouserTr> Anyone know how to get YASIS 3.2  xchat plugin to work?
[07:33] <tritium> sfer21: you called...
[07:33] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: Yes, the one that talks about RADEON not VESA
[07:33] <Ezro> Hm, I might try it out, it doesn't take too much space right?
[07:33] <sfer21> tritium: yes, betapi at least *was* trolling
[07:33] <Templar_Xion> soreau: ATI card issues?
[07:33] <BilatNimo> ZupZupper: wow, too many files for that to download. do i have to click it one by one?
[07:33] <intrigued98> anyone have any idea how to figure out why mplayer, totem, and VLC open movies and then close immeadiately?
[07:33] <[[thufir]]> Going by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(installer) , wubi isn't a good idea long term due to fragmentation and no journaling?  (win2k)
[07:33] <tritium> sfer21: yes, I've kept an eye on him
[07:33] <nathanhelp> Ezro: I'm using it right now. Install and LiveCD fits onto a standard CD.
[07:34] <betapi> sfer21: please to not call me asking for help trolling,  please.
[07:34] <ZupZupper> Ezro: about 4gb fully installed, can be installed in less
[07:34] <nathanhelp> I think it unpacks into about 3G
[07:34] <Ezro> 4gb, that's mad big xd
[07:34] <nathanhelp> yeah what Zug said
[07:34] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau, *.old talks about vesa too.
[07:34] <Ezro> That's gonna take forever to download haha
[07:34] <ZupZupper> BilatNimo, only for the ones you wnat to install
[07:34] <soreau> Templar_Xion: CoUrPsE|DeAd is having ati issues, yes
[07:34] <dashyn4ik> anybody see me
[07:34] <tritium> betapi: you were trolling, and have been warned
[07:34] <CountryTrouserTr> Anyone know how to get YASIS 3.2  xchat plugin to work?
[07:34] <ZupZupper> Ezro, the iso cd is less than 700mb
[07:34] <hateball> CountryTrouserTr⚘ name it whatever.pl, place in ~/.xhat, and load it in Xchat
[07:34] <riotkittie> Ezro: not that big. unless you've got a 10gb HD :p
[07:34] <Templar_Xion> soreau: Has he tried sudo apt-get install envy ?
[07:34] <Ezro> Hm
[07:34] <leon> "create usb startup disk"  can not accept a usb hard disk?  I want to create a startup disk, livecd is veryslow....
[07:34] <ZupZupper> it's compressed on the cd
[07:34] <hateball> CountryTrouserTr⚘ thats.... ~/.xchat
[07:34] <dashyn4ik> leon,hello
[07:34] <nathanhelp> Ezro: the live CD is fits onto a standard 700m CD
[07:34] <sfer21> betapi: what? call who?
[07:34] <betapi> tritium: please, how have i been trolling sir?  i only wanted to know the cheapest way to fix ubuntu... i thought this was a support channel
[07:34] <B|ackPanther> I am trying to configure wireless and cannot find the neti2220.inf file but i cannot find the file anywhere.
[07:35] <nathanhelp> Ezro: live/install
[07:35] <dashyn4ik> ezro,hello
[07:35] <CountryTrouserTr> hateball: well I loaded the plugin from xchat so its loaded.. I just dont know commands to execute it
[07:35] <B|ackPanther> Where can i find the file
[07:35] <ZupZupper> anyone in Ireland?
[07:35] <leon> dashyn4ik,  im here
[07:35] <tritium> ZupZupper: stay on topic, please
[07:35] <stan> betapi, the 'cheapest way to fix ubuntu' is to join #Ubuntu on Freenode and ask a question, use google, or use the forum.
[07:35] <dashyn4ik> )
[07:35] <dashyn4ik> hello,leon
[07:35] <BilatNimo> ZupZupper: can you give me a good mp3 player that is available on that link you provided?
[07:35] <soreau> Templar_Xion: Envy can potentially break your system for the video driver installation if it fails, and such is CoUrPsE|DeAd's case it would seem
[07:35] <Templar_Xion> B|ackPanther: sounds like a windows driver file. Have to download windows driver for your wireless device, load it up locally and then naviate to it
[07:35] <dashyn4ik>  :D
[07:35] <Thrashbarg> PEBKAC
[07:35] <ZupZupper> tritium, how do you know I'm not looking for an Irish Ubuntu LUG?
[07:35] <CountryTrouserTr> hateball: most sysinfo scripts come with help this one did not. But it is loaded, I just dont know command to work it
[07:36] <leon> dashyn4ik,  i am here , pls talk 2 me
[07:36] <Templar_Xion> soreau: I've had good luck with envy. that's me. I'd suggest go to VESA do envy and see if it fixes it.
[07:36] <intrigued98> anyone have any issues with their media players closing as soon as they open the movie file?
[07:36] <Ezro> Does the server edition of Ubuntu come with a gui, or is it all command?
[07:36] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau, I have been tryin for some time to get this going. and i've only recently tried envy, before trying envy i was also having problems.
[07:36] <B|ackPanther> Templar_Xion,the problem am having is the guide does not specify where to download such files.
[07:36] <[[thufir]]> there's not bittorrent file for the normal ubuntu download?
[07:36] <dashyn4ik> what is your name
[07:36] <stan> Ezro, by default it is cli.
[07:36] <ZupZupper> Ezro, no gui on that one
[07:36] <stan> Ezro, you can install X though.
[07:36] <hateball> CountryTrouserTr⚘ ah, cant help you then :/
[07:36] <nathanhelp> betapi:  whats one actual problem that you want fixed?
[07:36] <soreau> Templar_Xion: I wouldn't, why don't you just talk to him? I'm not the one having the problem
[07:36] <kyle|huttger> I need help
[07:36] <Ezro> Stan: What is that?
[07:36] <Templar_Xion> Ezro: (Effectively) same Os nothing different excdept no gui.You can install gnome/kde/ whatever yo uwant on server though if you want a GUI
[07:36] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lol.
[07:36] <stan> nathanhelp, its a psychological problem, not a computer problem.
[07:36]  * CoUrPsE|DeAd was thinking the same.
[07:36] <betapi> nathanhelp: ubuntu is broken so i want a cheap way to fix it quickly
[07:36] <CountryTrouserTr> hateball: do u know of a good sysinfo script that also tells upload and download speed from irc?
[07:36] <stan> Ezro, "x" is the GUI you see in Linux.
[07:36] <stan> !xorg
[07:36] <Templar_Xion> Ezro: command line interface vs graphical user interface (ClI VS GUI)
[07:36] <nathanhelp> betapi: name one problem. how is it broken?
[07:37] <CountryTrouserTr> hateball: the one I have now sux
[07:37] <CountryTrouserTr> System Information for chad-desktop: CPU: AuthenticAMD
[07:37] <ZupZupper> BilatNimo, hold on a sec... let me see which packages you need to install mp3 support
[07:37] <dashyn4ik> what is your name,leon
[07:37] <ZupZupper> BilatNimo, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[07:37] <betapi> nathanhelp: the whole screen is weird
[07:37] <stan> Ezro, people typically use the 'server' build because the machine is 'headless' and they maamnge it over ssh.
[07:37] <BilatNimo> ZupZupper: thanks
[07:37] <soreau> ! ask | kyle|huttger
[07:37] <BilatNimo> ZupZupper: i think 8.04
[07:37] <nathanhelp> betapi: define weird. what does it look like?
[07:37] <stan> Ezro, if you want a servert w/ GUI, use the desktop build.  its nearly identical.
[07:37] <leon> dashyn4ik, why ask these?
[07:37] <hateball> CountryTrouserTr⚘ cant say I do, I dont use any scripts like that :)
[07:37] <betapi> nathanhelp: like the LCD is broken, except its not
[07:37] <ZupZupper> BilatNimo, run `cat /etc/ubuntu-release`
[07:37] <Ezro> Ah, I see.
[07:37] <dashyn4ik> i wanted know
[07:37] <Thrashbarg> anyway, I've got a serious problem with Ubuntu and /home mounted as an NFS client... firefox, evolution and just about everything else crashes or doesn't work properly
[07:37] <Ezro> Now is it true that desktop only goes up to 800x600 resolution?
[07:38] <Ezro> Beceause that's what my bro is telling me right now.
[07:38] <nathanhelp> betapi: please explain what yo umean. We cant see what you see.
[07:38] <Templar_Xion> Ezro: No, limted by hardware
[07:38] <CountryTrouserTr> hateball: :(
[07:38] <leon> dashyn4ik,  i am leon , you call me leon , and you ask me name.
[07:38] <tritium> Ezro: no
[07:38] <Templar_Xion> Ezro: Either your brother has a bdd config or a horrible video card. probably the former
[07:38] <Templar_Xion> bad*
[07:38] <m1chael> cheap way to fix something == do it yourself
[07:38] <Ezro> Ah
[07:38] <m1chael> :)
[07:38] <joot> nathanhelp, I think you are being had..............................
[07:38] <sfer21> betapi: better not waste your time and go buy a new copy of ubuntu
[07:38] <CountryTrouserTr> Anyone know of a script that shows network such as upload/download speeds in irc?????
[07:38] <dashyn4ik> how old are you
[07:38] <BilatNimo> ZupZupper: why should i do that? i'm currently running windows now.
[07:38] <leon> .......34
[07:38] <nathanhelp> joot: lets see where it goes then :)
[07:38] <CountryTrouserTr> old
[07:38] <dashyn4ik> old really
[07:38] <CountryTrouserTr> young
[07:39] <joot> nathanhelp, hmmn    OK
[07:39] <tritium> betapi: if you need actual support, state the problem, and you can spare us the "cost" discussion
[07:39] <dashyn4ik> ))))
[07:39] <CountryTrouserTr> I'm 9
[07:39] <ZupZupper> BilatNimo, that'd tell you for sure what version you have
[07:39] <leon> yes, i am old , i am a java dev. NOT linux man
[07:39] <dashyn4ik> where are you from
[07:39] <leon> i from china
[07:39] <dashyn4ik> col
[07:39] <dashyn4ik> ol
[07:39] <dashyn4ik> cool
[07:39] <betapi> nathanhelp: it looks like there are cracks everwhere, one crack is going about 45 degrees northwest, approaching from the south.  it is comprised of primary pigments, mostly red and blue, but with hints of green.  as it meshes cerebrally with the other lines of despair, it creates a sullen mood of winter, intersecting with a green-purple segment.  this whole artifact continues across the...
[07:39] <BilatNimo> ZupZupper: ok, i have a version of 8.04
[07:39] <betapi> ...monitor until it is halted by a context menu.  while the menu is responsive, i am unable to view the contents inside.
[07:39] <leon> our group have many guys use ubuntu to dev java .
[07:39] <CntryTrousrTrout> leon: ni hao ma!
[07:39] <ZupZupper> BilatNimo, ok
[07:39] <leon> !!!!
[07:39] <stan> leon, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:39] <stan> !offtopic
[07:39] <nathanhelp> joot: if hes really serious about it being broken hes in the right place. if he isnt actually wanting help ill know to ignore him from now, untill he is serious.
[07:40] <joot> nathanhelp, told you
[07:40] <dashyn4ik> i from ukraine)))))
[07:40] <Flannel> dashyn4ik: Please keep non-support related chatter elsewhere, thanks.
[07:40] <CntryTrousrTrout> leon: wo shi mei guo bi ren
[07:40] <leon> CntryTrousrTrout,  ?  bi?
[07:40] <nathanhelp> betapi: so how is it broken? is it your screen itself?
[07:40] <jshriver> Anyone know of a media center for Linux that's not MythTV?
[07:40] <dashyn4ik> do you know this country
[07:40] <stan> jshriver, xbmc?
[07:40] <betapi> nathanhelp: no, it is fine when i turn it off.
[07:40] <Templar_Xion> nathanhelp: betapi is a troll, best to ignore imo.
[07:40] <kyle|huttger> does anyone know how to do ndiswrapper -mi or -ma?
[07:40] <CntryTrousrTrout> leon: forgot the pinyin for that word haha its been years since I spoke chinese
[07:41] <jshriver> hrm will check that out ty
[07:41] <Ezro> Last question from me before I go: Is Ubuntu straight forward with driver updates and all networking, or do I need to know some linux?
[07:41] <joot> Every one   I truly think    betapi is a time wasting troll with big boots
[07:41] <Meshezabeel> I've been having trouble with firefox freezing up for about a second or two every so often, when it freezes up I can't scroll or anything, but after the second or two freezeup, then anything I tried to do such as scrolling, or clicking, is suddenly performed, anyone else having these problems?
[07:41] <leon> CntryTrousrTrout,  your Pinyin is very bad!
[07:41] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I cannot get any ati drivers installed to save me, i've tried lots of stuff, but im also pretty new to ubuntu, Anyone can help me with this?
[07:41] <Templar_Xion> Ezro: Ubuntu has great hardware recognition.
[07:41] <philsf> is there any GUI way to setup a bluetooth headphone/headset in Ubuntu?
[07:41] <CntryTrousrTrout> leon: mm not really, you just don't know it
[07:41] <notplus_M> I just installed Xubuntu 8.10 on my PS3 but I can't seem to get wireless to work... it's not showing my wireless network in the networks list, and when I put in the ESSID and key manually it fails to connect
[07:41] <Templar_Xion> Ezro: Get a livecd and try it out.
[07:42] <notplus_M> I am using WEP by the way
[07:42] <Ezro> Ah cool, thanks for the help guys. I am downloading it now, so hopefully I will have it on my computer in a few hours.
[07:42] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: If you use a live cd, you're drivers should work without any configuration at all
[07:42] <jim_p> philsf, do you see the bluetooth icon in the tray?
[07:42] <nathanhelp> betapi: do you have a serious question?
[07:42] <Templar_Xion> notplus_M: Do other networks showup?
[07:42] <tritium> nathanhelp: I've quited the troll
[07:42] <notplus_M> Templar_Xion: nope
[07:42] <notplus_M> none do
[07:42] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i installed off a live CD.
[07:42] <dashyn4ik> äóùòþþþþþþþþ
[07:42] <CntryTrousrTrout> leon: im an american so it's not my native language..
[07:42] <notplus_M> Templar_Xion: and usually I can see a few other networks from my house
[07:42] <leon> CntryTrousrTrout,  i think you shuold be more gentle!
[07:42] <dashyn4ik> leon
[07:42] <notplus_M> Templar_Xion: when I do ifconfig wlan0 does show up too
[07:42] <Templar_Xion> notplus_M: what do you get from typing 'ifconfig' in the terminal?
[07:42] <CntryTrousrTrout> leon: but I haven't seen you speak pinyin yet?
[07:42] <kyle|huttger> does anyone know how to do ndiswrapper -mi or -ma? because it says i dont have write access
[07:43] <notplus_M> Templar_Xion: preempted :)
[07:43] <dashyn4ik> tell me abount your country
[07:43] <jim_p> does anyone have a nice and clean xorg.conf for nvidia from ubuntu 8.10 that he wants to show me?
[07:43] <tritium> CntryTrousrTrout: English language channel here
[07:43] <nathanhelp> tritium: ok thanks
[07:43] <Templar_Xion> notplus_M: :) ifconfig wlan0 does or does not show up? :)
[07:43] <Thrashbarg> I've got a serious problem with Ubuntu and /home mounted as an NFS client... firefox, evolution and just about everything else crashes or doesn't work properly.
[07:43] <Ezro> Well, I will see you guys later, thanks for the help :)
[07:43] <Templar_Xion> notplus_M: Just making sure.
[07:43] <notplus_M> Templar_Xion: it DOES show up
[07:43] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: So your graphics drivers were already working. Now that you've used envy and it failed, you have little chance of recovery without reinstalling Intrepid
[07:43] <Templar_Xion> notplus_M: Interesting...
[07:43] <CntryTrousrTrout> tritium: uhhh duhhhh
[07:43] <notplus_M> Templar_Xion: yeah, I know, it's weird...
[07:43] <jshriver> I like GeeXbox, but it's a full live CD system. Wish it ran as a solo app.
[07:43] <notplus_M> Templar_Xion: I had the same problems in the installer, it wouldn't connect
[07:43] <leon> CntryTrousrTrout,   it is a english channel , if you want to pratice chinese you can contact me, but not here
[07:43] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau, My gfx drivers were vesa before.
[07:44] <kyle|huttger> anyone?
[07:44] <tritium> CntryTrousrTrout: so don't try to practice Chinese
[07:44] <CntryTrousrTrout> leon: I'm not practicing lol, I already know it
[07:44] <Templar_Xion> notplus_M: just for fun, cna you burn regular ubuntu 8.10 and load it up as a livecd to see if the drivers work?
[07:44] <nomaden_> how to install gnomenu theme?
[07:44] <CntryTrousrTrout> tritium: rofl chill out
[07:44] <kyle|huttger> does anyone know how to do ndiswrapper -mi or -ma?because it says i do not have write access
[07:44] <intrigued98> anyone know which command I would use to start a .avi file from the shell using vlc or mplayer?
[07:44] <Thrashbarg> kyle|huttger: sudo?
[07:44] <CntryTrousrTrout> tritium: if you wanna be so helpful help me on my script.. that seems to be the only thing u have commented on
[07:44] <Flannel> CntryTrousrTrout: Please follow the respect the channel rules
[07:44] <notplus_M> Templar_Xion: can you give me a link for it?  Not sure which one to burn
[07:45] <kyle|huttger> no
[07:45] <Templar_Xion> notplus_M: www.ubuntu.com
[07:45] <CntryTrousrTrout> flannel: mmm far as I know I have
[07:45] <notplus_M> Templar_Xion: yeah, but, don't I Need like... a powerpc one?
[07:45] <nick__> intrigued98, does vlc video.avi not work?
[07:45] <dashyn4ik> i practice english,i know this langiage very bad
[07:45] <Meshezabeel> oh oh, I think we have a troll here
[07:45] <Templar_Xion> notplus_M: Not sure. I don't know PS3 honestly.
[07:45] <notplus_M> oh
[07:45] <notplus_M> =/
[07:45] <Meshezabeel> nope, never mind, it is only an ogre
[07:45] <kyle|huttger> i just type in ndswrapper -mi/-ma and it says i dont have write acces
[07:46] <leon> dashyn4ik,   you can private msg to me , but not here dicuss my country
[07:46] <ZupZupper> BilatNimo, ok there's a list of packages for you
[07:46] <nick__> kyle|huttger, try sudo ndiswrapper -mi
[07:46] <sinbox> intrigued98, type vlc -help in a terminal
[07:46] <intrigued98> nick_ the .avi opens and then closes right away. Same thing with Totem, Mplayer or VLC
[07:46] <kyle|huttger> ok
[07:46] <nick__> kyle|huttger, or ma
[07:46] <kyle|huttger> alright
[07:46] <dashyn4ik> send YOuprivate msg to me,please
[07:47] <Templar_Xion> notplus_M: download the Alternative PowerPC + PS3 iso
[07:47] <nomaden_> how to install gnomenu theme?
[07:47] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: Maybe, it did not have the open driver installed: xserver-xorg-video-ati
[07:47] <leon> CntryTrousrTrout,  pls obey rules of channel!
[07:47] <Templar_Xion> notplus_M:  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/8.10/release/ubuntu-8.10-alternate-powerpc+ps3.iso
[07:47] <ZupZupper> BilatNimo, http://www.harecoded.com/how-to-play-mp3-with-ubuntu-96313 this page details the steps to take
[07:47] <CntryTrousrTrout> leon: what are u talking about
[07:47] <CntryTrousrTrout> I never said anything in channel
[07:47] <sinbox> IntrepidOne, what about other avi files, same or they work?
[07:47] <ZupZupper> download all the packages they list manually and install them and mp3 support should work
[07:48] <tritium> CntryTrousrTrout: you were rude to me
[07:48] <jim_p> does anyone have a nice and clean xorg.conf for nvidia from ubuntu 8.10 that he wants to show me?
[07:48] <kyle|huttger> nick__, thanks that worked
[07:48] <CntryTrousrTrout> huh
[07:48] <CntryTrousrTrout> tritium: I was?
[07:48] <CntryTrousrTrout> are ya'll like 5 years old or something? Everyone so moody here and emotional
[07:48] <dashyn4ik> please,tell with me
[07:48] <CntryTrousrTrout> tritium: I was never rude to u
[07:48] <nick__> enlightenment is taking FOREVER to install...
[07:48] <leon> DO ASK ME AGE AND WHERE FROM AND ANYTHING NOT ABOUT UBUNUT!
[07:48] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau, Synaptic says that is installed.
[07:48] <tritium> CntryTrousrTrout: drop it now
[07:48] <leon> DO not  ASK ME AGE AND WHERE FROM AND ANYTHING NOT ABOUT UBUNUT!
[07:48] <CntryTrousrTrout> lol
[07:48] <Flannel> leon: Please stop.
[07:49] <soreau> We got a real ubunut folks
[07:49] <CntryTrousrTrout> leon: yes plz stop
[07:49] <nathanhelp> This is a question not specifically about Blender but more about the alongside things in Ubuntu... If I get Blender, should I also get python as well or is it already installed in ubuntu? (fresh install of 8.10)
[07:49] <dashyn4ik> you wanted know my age?
[07:50] <Flannel> nathanhelp: `sudo apt-get install blender` and you'll have blender, it'll drag in whatever dependencies it needs
[07:50] <joot> nathanhelp, amost sure that python come with ubuntu
[07:50] <nathanhelp> and where can i find a list of things that have been installed?
[07:50] <nick__> nathanhelp, use sudo aptitude install <package> as it will check dependencies such as python
[07:50] <nick__> Flannel,  you beat me to it, lol
[07:50] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: Well without seeing an x log where it's attempting to use the radeon driver, I don't know what could be wrong
[07:50] <Flannel> nathanhelp: If you use synaptic package manager, it'll show you what you have and what you don't, etc.
[07:50] <Flannel> !synaptic | nathanhelp
[07:50] <nathanhelp> thanks Flannel, nick_, joot
[07:50] <sinbox> don't apt-get and aptitude bring in the recommends as well now?
[07:50] <nick__> nathanhelp, either synaptic package manager, or aptitude
[07:50] <joot> nathanhelp, synaptic or add remove programs gui
[07:51] <nick__> sinbox, yeah they do
[07:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau, You said theres no xorg.conf in 8.10, Is there a config file somewhere else?
[07:51] <raylu> or dpkg D
[07:51] <dashyn4ik> âû âñå òóïûå èäèîòû
[07:51] <Rakko> Is it possible to update from Hardy to Intrepid using the Intrepid CD (regular, not alternate)?
[07:51] <Flannel> Rakko: Not upgrade, no.
[07:51] <tritium> CoUrPsE|DeAd, soreau: there is an xorg.conf in 8.10, albeit a minimal one
[07:51] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: You can have an xorg.conf file, you need one for fglrx
[07:51] <tritium> dashyn4ik: stop that
[07:51] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> oh right, i get ya.
[07:51] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: But without one, it should attempt to use the open driver
[07:51] <dashyn4ik> why
[07:51] <CntryTrousrTrout> dashyn4ik: follow channel rulesssss
[07:52] <CntryTrousrTrout> its annoying
[07:52] <CntryTrousrTrout> thats why
[07:52] <Rakko> Flannel: Ok. I thought I could just add the CD as cdrom: in sources.list, but it just went ahead and downloaded everything instead, so I wondered why.
[07:52] <dashyn4ik> tell with me
[07:52] <Flannel> Rakko: right, you need the alternate CD to be able to upgrade.
[07:52] <joot> Maybe ops should shoot first and ask questions later.....
[07:52] <nick__> Enlightenment better be worth it, I've been sitting here while it compiles for half an hour... :'(
[07:52] <ZupZupper> Rakko, did you run apt-get update?
[07:52] <ZupZupper> after install
[07:53] <Rakko> Yes
[07:53] <dashyn4ik> i from Ukraine   very interesting,how you live
[07:53] <Thrashbarg> CoUrPsE|DeAd: you can generate a basic xorg.conf file by hitting ctrl+alt+F1, logging in, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, sudo X -configure, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start. You'll have an xorg.conf.new file in your home directory
[07:53] <nathanhelp> Ah I see... "Installed apps only"
[07:53] <Flannel> dashyn4ik: This is a support channel, please take chat elsewhere (#ubuntu-offtopic is a good place)
[07:53] <raylu> Thrashbarg: it should be in /root, actually
[07:53] <Thrashbarg> raylu: sudo doesn't change the directory
[07:54] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Thrashbarg, okies, i'll try.
[07:54] <apt-get> Q) new to IRC, how do I find what the rules are here?
[07:54] <raylu> Thrashbarg: what directory?
[07:54] <ZupZupper> Rakko, I think what happens is after you update the dpkg repos are looking for the newer versions only available on the repos, not the cd
[07:54] <dashyn4ik> are  you fools?
[07:54] <Thrashbarg> raylu: the one you're currently in, usually your home directory when you log in
[07:54] <Rakko> we are DEVO
[07:54] <nathanhelp> how do I add repositories, and how do i find them?
[07:54] <qb|away> apt-get, rules? just don't spam, don't flood, don't use many clones and you are pretty safe.
[07:54] <leon> dashyn4ik,  you can send private msg to me. do ask here.  i am learning  linux basic knwlege here.
[07:54] <raylu> Thrashbarg: X -configure will create it in your home dir, though
[07:54] <raylu> Thrashbarg: and for root, that's /root
[07:55] <Thrashbarg> raylu: sudo doesn't log you in as root though
[07:55] <dashyn4ik> i cant send msg,lron!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:55] <roma> hi
[07:55] <raylu> Thrashbarg: it doesn't, but it uses root's environment
[07:55] <Flannel> nathanhelp: You generally don't need to add additional repositories
[07:55] <roma> spanish people here?
[07:55] <qb|away> no, im from mexico
[07:55] <Thrashbarg> raylu: my experience has been that it just elevates your privelages, but keeps everything else the same
[07:55] <joot> !es
[07:55] <dashyn4ik> roma hi
[07:55] <mandrig> !es
[07:55] <qb|away> roma, there is a #ubuntu-es
[07:55] <apt-get> gb, thanks I think I can follow those rules
[07:56] <Thrashbarg> raylu: anyway, we shall see
[07:56] <Fedora_> O HAI GUISE
[07:56] <roma> hola
[07:56] <nathanhelp> Flannel: I know the general idea of repositories, but arent there repos for certain apps that you can only get those apps if you use the repos? or have i misunderstood something?
[07:56] <qb|away> great apt-get :) anyway i think there is a MOTD which has the rules if you need them... try /motd (I think)... if not... join the main lobby for this server, maybe #freenode
[07:56] <roma> se puede hablar en espanol o no?
[07:56] <qb|away> roma: no
[07:56] <qb|away> roma: usa el canal de #ubuntu-es para español
[07:56] <roma> que mal pedo
[07:56] <qb|away> hahaha ya se
[07:56] <mandrig> !es | roma
[07:56] <qb|away> I already told him ma
[07:56] <qb|away> mandrig
[07:56] <raylu> Thrashbarg: oops, i had it backwards. sudo uses the current user's environment. i still remember xorg -configure generating a conf file in /root, though
[07:57] <roma> chill
[07:57] <fale> why webmin is not packaged for ubuntu?
[07:57] <Rakko> Flannel: I've upgraded all the packages that had updates, but lsb_release still says Hardy
[07:57] <raylu> !webmin | fale
[07:57] <roma> this is not friendly
[07:57] <raylu> Rakko: how did you upgrade?
[07:57] <Flannel> nathanhelp: Depends on what you're looking for.  The repositories have a good deal of things, most, if not all, of what you'll need.  If you need specifics, you can find them, but there aren't many more large repositories of stuff you'll need.
[07:57] <fale> !ebox
[07:57] <Flannel> !upgrade | Rakko
[07:58] <Rakko> thanks
[07:58] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okies.
[07:58] <Flannel> Rakko: That link will walk you through the upgrade process.  You'll have to do it from the internet if you don't have an alternate CD
[07:58] <nathanhelp> Rakko: , Flannel: I thought you had to iinstall new when going from hardy to ibex.
[07:58] <fale> thankyou raylu
[07:58] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Got a log file that contains errors now relivlent to the radeon driver.
[07:58] <Flannel> nathanhelp: Nope, you can upgrade Ubuntu versions no problem
[07:58] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/f3569340f
[07:58] <raylu> apt-get: /topic
[07:59] <bad-wire> !rules > apt-get
[07:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> That is my Xorg.0.log.old file which is trying to use radeon driver.
[07:59] <nathanhelp> Flannel: Oh ok. mustve been my inexperience before. I have a installation prob with 5.4 to 6.3.
[07:59] <nathanhelp> *had
[07:59] <apt-get> raylu, very good. got it
[07:59] <Thrashbarg> raylu: just tried it then on another box, it saved to /home, not /root
[07:59] <Rakko> Flannel: I'd already read this page. Does it make a difference that I upgraded with Upgrade Manager instead of Synaptic?
[07:59] <Flannel> nathanhelp: You would've have to go from 5.04 to 5.10, and then from 5.10 to 6.06, you can't skip versions (except LTS to LTS)
[07:59] <raylu> Thrashbarg: hm, ok
[07:59] <Flannel> Rakko: No, update-manager is the suggested method
[08:00] <trend> hello
[08:00] <joot> nathanhelp, I think we all did to some degree
[08:00] <smokeymirror> this is smokey back again
[08:00] <smokeymirror> i was able to mount this iso and it loads in vlc
[08:00] <smokeymirror> but it wont play past the menu
[08:01] <smokeymirror> it just crashes and repeats the menu
[08:01] <smokeymirror> any help?
[08:01] <Rakko> Flannel: Oh... "click on the "Updates" tab and change "Show new distribution release" to "Normal releases"" -- I don't think I did that
[08:01] <nathanhelp> Flannel: That'll be it then. Re: repos, I cant think of the example now, but I did need to add a repo before (5.04) and couldnt get it to work. So, basically I neednt worry about it until (if ever) that example comes up again on "how to add repos"?
[08:02] <trend> i get this in in dmesg: [   47.128172] 3w-xxxx: scsi0: AEN: WARNING: ATA UDMA downgrade: Port #0. for my 3ware raid card.. is that normal?
[08:02] <jim_p> does anyone have a nice and clean xorg.conf for nvidia from ubuntu 8.10 that he wants to show me?
[08:02] <Flannel> nathanhelp: Right.  And its actually pretty straight forward
[08:02] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I cant get ati drivers to install, here is my Xorg.0.log file that contains my errors, any ideas on how to fix anyone? http://pastebin.com/f3569340f
[08:02] <thechris> smokeymirror: run vlc from a  console to see what error message appears, then google that error or, if short, paste here. or paste into a pastebin
[08:02] <trend> or does it have to do with anything a degraded hd? i really don't think so.. but just double checking
[08:02] <raylu> smokeymirror: is the iso a vcd/dvd?
[08:03] <Rakko> I have to admit it's counter-intuitive that you have to change release and repository info in Synaptic, but then use Update Manager to actually update
[08:03] <soreau> jim_p: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Gentoo_2007.0_on_a_ThinkPad_R61#xorg.conf
[08:03] <Flannel> Rakko: You don't manually change that stuff.
[08:04] <Flannel> Rakko: the only setting you have to change is the non-LTS releases in software sources.  Or wait for 10.04 to roll around.
[08:04] <Rakko> yeah
[08:04] <raylu> Rakko: it makes sense if you don't use the gui tools
[08:04] <Rakko> 10.04 is the next LTS?
[08:04] <jim_p> soreau, is this for xorg 1.5?
[08:05] <Flannel> Rakko: Scheduled to be, yeah
[08:05] <Rakko> oh, like vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:05] <soreau> jim_p: xorg 1.5 doesn't need an xorg.conf :)
[08:05] <J-a-k-e> hi, does anyone know what the sound quality if like with a creative x-fi xtreme gamer running alsa?
[08:05] <Rakko> what is special about the decimal .04 in Ubuntu?
[08:05] <fahrenheit> month
[08:05] <smokeymirror> i made a copy of my dvd last night
[08:05] <fahrenheit> it was released
[08:05] <Flannel> Rakko: You don't need to edit your sources at all to ugprade, update-managert does it for you.
[08:05] <soreau> jim_p: It will only work if you have nvidia drivers installed correctly
[08:05] <jim_p> soreau, i know, but it does not work properly for my friends nvidia
[08:05] <Flannel> Rakko: they're YY.MM (Year.Month)
[08:05] <Rakko> Flannel: oh, I know... I'm thinking for more technical things.
[08:05] <Rakko> Oh!
[08:05] <Thrashbarg> jim_p: I said this not long ago, you weren't here... you can generate a basic xorg.conf file by hitting ctrl+alt+F1, logging in, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, sudo X -configure, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start. You'll have an xorg.conf.new file in your home directory
[08:05] <Rakko> April 2010
[08:06] <jim_p> soreau, he does have nvidia proprietary drivers installed
[08:06] <Rakko> So is Intrepid sort of an "unstable"?
[08:06] <nathanhelp> I've just installed the restricted ubuntu for mp3/dvd/etc... but youtube still doesnt come up. is there another step? or restart? that i have to do?
[08:06] <soreau> jim_p: Then he only needs to set the Driver line in the Device section to "nvidia"
[08:06] <nathanhelp> * youtube movies still dont play. it say I have javascript turned off or an old version.
[08:07] <jim_p> Thrashbarg, yea but will this work on xorg 1.5? i know that techique
[08:07] <raylu> nathanhelp: restart firefox
[08:07] <nathanhelp> aheh. righto. see yo usoon
[08:07] <Flannel> Rakko: No, there's just two upgrade cycles.  Wehther you want to upgrade every few years, or every few months.
[08:07] <raylu> Rakko: it's some degree of unstable. for most desktop users, it should be fine
[08:07] <jim_p> soreau, well his xorg.conf is ... tiny and it even lacks THAT option. thats why i suggested a proper full xorg.conf
[08:07] <Rakko> Ok.
[08:07] <soreau> xorg.conf options depend on the hardware being used, not the version of x
[08:07] <Flannel> Rakko: obviously though, older, more mature software is more stable.
[08:08] <J-a-k-e> join /#alsa
[08:08] <J-a-k-e> ops
[08:08] <Rakko> Also, does anyone know of an Intrepid package for Murrine that looks like the Hardy version instead of the Intrepid version? (In Intrepid the menu arrows are too big)
[08:08] <ackbahr> Hi! In a script, I'd like to mv a file and rename it according to the result of another command (tail). How do I do this?
[08:08] <Rakko> Flannel: I went to Intrepid because Hardy kept dropping me into busybox when I tried to boot
[08:08] <soreau> jim_p: Just look at the Driver line in the Device section of the link I gave you, and add that line as it is there
[08:08] <Flannel> ackbahr: is the output of tail just the filename you want?
[08:09] <thechris> ackbahr: use backticks around the command.  eg, mv `echo file1.txt` file2.txt
[08:09] <jim_p> soreau, thanks
[08:09] <Flannel> ackbahr: it outputs "foo.txt" or whatnot?
[08:09] <yury> я неврубаю о чем речь
[08:09] <Flannel> !ru | yury
[08:09] <thechris> ackbahr: you may also be interested in things like xargs, for, and awk.
[08:10] <yury> сдесь кто нибудь по русски базланит
[08:10] <ackbahr> Flannel : No, it outputs something I'd like to prefiy to the original filename
[08:10] <Flannel> yury: /join #ubuntu-ru
[08:10] <soreau> Damn Flannel, how do you know what language it is? :)
[08:10] <Rakko> English
[08:11] <Flannel> ackbahr: You can use backticks to run another command and insert it into that command.  So, like, mv file1 `tail whatever`-file1
[08:11] <Rakko> wakka wakka
[08:11] <yury> непонимаю я не хера
[08:11] <Rakko> awakkatare
[08:11] <Flannel> yury: English only in this channel please.
[08:11] <AnarkiNet> Hi, is it possible to "burn" the Ubuntu CD image to a USB flash drive? i can't find any of my DVD-R's at the moment
[08:11] <ackbahr> thechris So in my case mv default.tga 'tail -c 20 nohup.out'-default-00001.tga ?
[08:11] <Rakko> watch your mouth
[08:12] <Rakko> AnarkiNet: google "liveusb"
[08:12] <thechris> maybe.  i never specifically tried
[08:12] <Flannel> !install | AnarkiNet
[08:12] <Flannel> ackbahr: The first link there has a few methods, and also the last one apparently.
[08:12] <raylu> AnarkiNet: unetbootin
[08:12] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> #drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 #  drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address)#drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device or address) #drmOpenDevice: Open failed
[08:12] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Any susgestions?
[08:13] <ackbahr> Flannel And is there a way to ask it to reuse the original filename (with tilda or something of this kind)?
[08:13] <yury> идите в жопу
[08:13] <raylu> ackbahr: how do you get the original name?
[08:13] <mandrig> !ru
[08:13] <AnarkiNet> Rakko, no, i don't want to install *to* a USB drive, i want to put the installation media on a USB drive and install *from* it
[08:13] <Rakko> oh, sorry
[08:14] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: Add this section: http://pastebin.com/m5aced730
[08:14] <AnarkiNet> sorry, i wasn't very specific the first time
[08:14] <ice_cream> lol yury
[08:14] <ackbahr> raylu It already exists
[08:14] <raylu> ackbahr: ...? i think it'd help if you show us what you have written
[08:14] <mandrig> what window managers is everyone using?
[08:14] <AnarkiNet> hmm i'm running windows at the moment so whatever program i need will be for windows... maybe i joined the wrong channel heh
[08:15] <mandrig> er are*
[08:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau, and reboot again?
[08:15] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: Just restart X
[08:15] <tavish> mandrig: gnome
[08:15] <Flannel> AnarkiNet: the first link of that factoid (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation) gives you a few ways to install without burning a CD
[08:15] <mandrig> AnarkiNet, are you wanting to dual boot?
[08:15] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okies, brb.
[08:15] <ackbahr> raylu Well, actually I don't really need to automate it so much, I can do without this last detail.... Thanks anyway!
[08:15] <raylu> tavish: gnome isn't technically a window manager
[08:15] <tavish> mandrig: sorry gtk+
[08:16] <mandrig> tavish, lol, its cool
[08:16] <AnarkiNet> i'm going to install ubuntu on my sister's PC which i'm repairing at the moment
[08:16] <nathanhelp> ok good. my videos are working now. however my sound is very quiet.
[08:16] <raylu> tavish: nor is gtk+ P
[08:16] <tavish> raylu: i guess i am a noob then :(
[08:16] <raylu> tavish: metacity is, though
[08:16] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Added, restarted, did glxinfo
[08:16] <mandrig> AnarkiNet, so, her computer will only have ubuntu? if you wanted to leave windows on there (ew, but possible) you could use wubi
[08:16] <Rakko> I'm using xfwm
[08:16] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Unable to read from: glxinfo
[08:16] <Rakko> or whatever xubuntu's is called
[08:16] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> whoops.
[08:17] <RobotCow> how can i get more emblems for folder icons?
[08:17] <Flannel> Rakko: XFCE
[08:17] <mandrig> Rakko, thats right,
[08:17] <ackbahr> Any if I run two nohup commands one after the other from the same directory, both will add to the same nohup.out ?
[08:17] <Rakko> I love it
[08:17] <mandrig> I'm just trying to get Enlightenment to work...
[08:17] <bad-wire> if I install a package with apt-get and it installs dependencies, will they also get remnoved if I do apt-get uninstall?
[08:17] <fahrenheit> bad-wire : I dont think so, use apt-get autoremove
[08:17] <raylu> bad-wire: with aptitude, they will
[08:18] <bad-wire> ok thanks fahrenheit
[08:18] <raylu> bad-wire: as long as you leave the dependencies marked as automatically installed
[08:18] <bad-wire> k raylu I'll try aptitude and see what the cat drags in
[08:19] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau, my result of glxinfo is http://pastebin.com/m79a57531
[08:19] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: That indicates you have fglrx installed faultily. What does x log say?
[08:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> and the .old one thats using the radeon driver is:
[08:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/f9229791
[08:20] <speedhunt3r> hi, I want to change my splash screen and I am using the startupmanager, after selecting the theme I want It performs post-configuration tasks, it asks me what to do with the grub menu, keep the local one install or install package manager's one etc. Which one should I select so that the splash screen works correctly?
[08:20] <leon> "create a USB startup disk' does not support   a usb hard disk ?
[08:20] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/f5241fad3
[08:21] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: Every x log you have shows x has reverted to the vesa driver
[08:22] <ackbahr> Thanks everyone, so long!
[08:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> erm.
[08:22] <nomaden_> i can't copy folder from home to usr/share/gnomenu/menu  can help me?
[08:22] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> okies, hang a sec.
[08:22] <mandrig> is anyone using enlightenment?
[08:22] <bj_> hi, i am trying to use my samsung tv with vga to my laptop, i plugged it in, and its just black, what am i missing?
[08:22] <leon> "create a USB startup disk' does not support   a usb hard disk ? anyone have idea?
[08:23] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> http://pastebin.com/f3569340f thats my radeon xorg log file.
[08:24] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: Yes, that would be it. Does /dev/dri/card0 even exist?
[08:24] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> How can i see?
[08:25] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> /dev/dri is empty
[08:25] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: ls -l /dev/dri/card0
[08:25] <raylu> speedhunt3r: the "package maintainers version" is just the reconfigured one
[08:25] <soreau> Then that's bad
[08:25] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> ruh roh, :(
[08:25] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: I have no idea what else could be wrong.
[08:25] <elninja> z
[08:25] <speedhunt3r> raylu, so if i should select that one right?
[08:25] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Okies, thanks for your help.
[08:26] <raylu> speedhunt3r: yes
[08:26] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: But that device node file should exist. I suspect envy has your system fubar so far as graphics driver is concerned
[08:26] <kovacs> hy
[08:26] <leon> "create a USB startup disk' does not support   a usb hard disk ? anyone have idea?
[08:27] <Rakko> leon: what do you mean?
[08:27] <raylu> bj_: restart X
[08:27] <tavish> mandrig: i am trying to compile e16, i dont have this package imlib2. it is not found either
[08:27] <bj_> raylu - whats X?
[08:27] <raylu> !x
[08:27] <raylu> o.0
[08:27] <raylu> that was somewhat lacking
[08:28] <mandrig> bj_, or <ctrl><alt><backspace>
[08:28] <leon> Rakko, do you know "Create a USB startup disk" function?
[08:28] <Rakko> not really, sorry
[08:28] <raylu> what he said
[08:28] <mandrig> tavish, sudo apt-get install imlib2-config
[08:28] <Rakko> !install | leon
[08:29] <nathanhelp> I've installed Lidvdread3 and css to play dvd, but totem gives me this error. "Could not read from resource."
[08:30] <MellowDude> bye u all and have a get night im off to bed
[08:30] <kovacs> this I know it that not here owes but segiteni would not be top notch how the alapoktol is needed program irni? would be important!
[08:30] <leon> ubottu,  i don't want use livecd. i want to create a startup disk to usb disk.
[08:30] <nathanhelp> how can i get my ubuntu to play dvds? I've read the wiki, and followed the steps but now i dont know what to do. Would VLC work?
[08:32] <thebigham> how do you change NetworkManager Applet password?
[08:32] <thebigham> it ask me to enter that password everytime i login, and i set a really long password
[08:33] <soreau> lol
[08:33] <thebigham> +9
[08:33] <thebigham> =(
[08:33] <comradekingu> applications>Accessories>passwords and encryption keys
[08:34] <comradekingu> Or unlock permanently instead of session based
[08:34] <Org-Mode> if you're gonna use really long passwords you should get keepassx
[08:34] <raylu> !hu | kovacs
[08:34] <mr_polite> is there a way to install the Darkroom theme in 8.04
[08:34] <Rakko> leon: look at the pages ubottu told you about. they should say something about using a usb disk
[08:34] <DaveEngland> i would like to know.. why my emerald themes dont get applyed? i installed emerald theme manager... :S
[08:35] <trend> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[08:35] <leon> Rakko, i am reading these.
[08:35] <CaMason> Anyone have any experience of using tmpfs? Its suggested I use tmpfs for /var/log/ on my Asus netbook, but apps complain if sub-folders don't exist (namely apache2 and apt). Adding lines to fstab with those subfolders doesn't seem to work. Any ideas?
[08:36] <raylu> CaMason: you're hosting an apache server on an asus notebook...
[08:36] <raylu> CaMason: and you want the logs to be temporary
[08:36] <raylu> CaMason: ...?
[08:36] <CaMason> raylu: yes, it's just a dev server
[08:37] <DaveEngland> !emerald
[08:37] <DaveEngland> :S
[08:37] <BilatNimo> !patience BilatNim
[08:37] <raylu> CaMason: you should try lighttpd
[08:37] <jtaji> CaMason: perhaps put the necessary mkdir commands (mkdir /var/log/apache2, etc..) in /etc/rc.local
[08:37] <BilatNimo> !patience BilatNimo
[08:37] <BilatNimo> :)
[08:37] <BilatNimo> bye
[08:38] <Rakko> !install | ubottu
[08:38] <CaMason> jtaji: that sounds promising. I'm still semi new to linux and its scripting mechanism. Is /etc/rc.local a set of boot-time scripts?
[08:38] <raylu> !startup
[08:38] <Rakko> night
[08:38] <raylu> sigh.
[08:38] <raylu> !boot
[08:38] <CaMason> aha, very succinct. Thanks
[08:39] <oj_> hi, i'm trying to load a splash image, but there's this error that comes up "usplash : no image found for res and screen init failed" I used startupmanager to install the .so files and although during boot the resolution changes the splash screen doesn't load, how can i fix this?
[08:39] <RobotCow> anybody else? how can i get more emblems for folder icons?
[08:39] <jtaji> CaMason: it's the last bit to be run during boot up, so actually might not work because the services which are complaining will start up earlier
[08:39] <CaMason> jtaji: good point
[08:39] <raylu> jtaji: no, rc starts up the services too
[08:40] <jtaji> right but rc.local is after the init scripts run
[08:40] <raylu> jtaji: right, so don't use rc.local, make your own init script D
[08:40] <raylu> and something is wrong with my :/; key
[08:40] <CaMason> so ideally, I need a script to run after fstab and before the services start
[08:40] <gaelfx1> is there a trick to getting SCIM to work for 32-bit apps on a 64-bit system?
[08:40] <jtaji> CaMason: ideally you want to do this right after you enable tmpfs, so an init script as raylu mentioned in /etc/rcS.d appropriately named to come right after tmpfs
[08:41] <kovacs> ubuttu ott nem ir senki
[08:41] <chalcedony>  have ubuntu 8.4 and pulseaudio .. can i be on skype and play mplayer at the same time?
[08:41] <gaelfx1> chalcedony: you won't hear Skype, but yes there is a way
[08:41] <jtaji> CaMason: indeed
[08:41] <gaelfx1> chalcedony: if you have the static-oss version of Skype installed
[08:42] <chalcedony> gaelfx1: how acn i tell?
[08:42] <Lokin> I can't get video player working....
[08:42] <gaelfx1> chalcedony: if you don't know, then you don't have that version installed
[08:42] <CaMason> all of these scripts are symlinks to files within init.d, and start Sxx
[08:42] <gaelfx1> chalcedony: you won't be able to make or receive calls with mplayer running though, so I'm not sure if that's what you wanted
[08:43] <nathanhelp> sigh. I guess <s>people</> corporations have figured out how to encrypt dvds even further. Even VLC wont run my dvd.
[08:43] <chalcedony> gaelfx1: what i wanted was alsa .. but someone helped me get sound working and now it's pulseaudio
[08:44] <gaelfx1> chalcedony: then you'll just have to try and see if it works because I don't know what this person had you do to your system
[08:44] <Lokin> anyone?
[08:44] <gaelfx1> how can I get SCIM on a 64-bit system to work with a 32-bit app I
[08:44] <chuxxsss> Hi, anyone set up a dhcp using ubuntu for a wireless network?  As I what to connect to my Wii :)
[08:45] <DaveEngland> i would like to know.. why my emerald themes dont get applyed? i installed emerald theme manager... :S
[08:45] <raylu> CaMason: and they're configured witih update-rc.d
[08:45] <cwillu> I installed ubuntu 64-bit on my buddies new machine, and now my own machine feels slow and underpowered :(
[08:45] <soreau> DaveEngland: Are you using emerald as your decorator and have compiz effects working?
[08:46] <CaMason> raylu: ah ok *looks that up*
[08:46] <DaveEngland> soreau,  yes i have! Compiz is running great!
[08:46] <raylu> CaMason: i believe you just create your script next to the existing ones and update-rc.d will symlink them the way you tell it to
[08:46] <soreau> DaveEngland: Try Alt+F2 > 'emerald --replace'
[08:46] <noswears> another noob question - what are the benefits of running 64-bit ubuntu?
[08:46] <CaMason> raylu: ok, I'm going to have a bit of a read-up
[08:47] <raylu> CaMason: not really. update-rc.d --help
[08:47] <mandrig> ... hungry
[08:47] <mandrig> !food
[08:47] <chuxxsss> I know the feeling raylu  I had to turn on my old machine just be 4 and it was slow
[08:48] <raylu> chuxxsss: what?
[08:49] <nomaden_> how to setting gnomenu theme?i have installed but how to set?
[08:49] <chalcedony> mplayer is totally not hearable .. what's wrong?
[08:50] <chalcedony> gaelfx1 i hung up on skype but now mplayer is still not hearable
[08:51] <chuxxsss> Was running my old Athlon 32 bit it was slow now back on faster 64 bit computer :) raylu
[08:51] <smokeymirror> hey guys
[08:51] <smokeymirror> i have a wine problem
[08:51] <cryptnix> so stop drinking it?
[08:51] <cryptnix> ;P
[08:51] <smokeymirror> i uninsalled it but the wine folder wont go away from my app list
[08:51] <ice_cream> white wine with fish
[08:52] <soreau> smokeymirror: Remove it with Sys>Prefs>Main Menu
[08:52] <jim_p> smokeymirror, use alacarte to make it disappear
[08:53] <xorlim> smokeymirror: my wine is in the app list too, in the menu, even though I removed it.
[08:54] <smokeymirror> mmh
[08:55] <smokeymirror> ok i got it removed
[08:55] <xorlim> smokeymirror: how do I get it removed?
[08:56] <ElemonGW> one of the worst ways of connecting to the internet is through a usb modem, right? which is the best?
[08:56] <jim_p> ElemonGW, ethernet and a router
[08:56] <soreau> ElemonGW: The most reliable is a hard wired ethernet connection
[08:56] <nathanhelp> My PAL (my region) legit dvd doesnt work in totem or in VLC. both programs cant read block 0. I've already read and installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras, and installed libdvdread3 and css-sh. what else can I do to make this dvd run?
[08:57] <jim_p> ElemonGW, and serial port connection if you are having a dial up modem
[08:57] <smokeymirror> system > pref  > main menu
[08:58] <jim_p> nathanhelp, install libdvdcss2 as well
[08:58] <smokeymirror> xorlim go to sys > pref > main menu and deselect it
[08:58] <smokeymirror> but that was only part of my problem
[08:58] <\\`oot> Hi - how can I make my printer available to Windows-based workstations on the network (to everyone)?
[08:58] <smokeymirror> i was trying to reinstall wine
[08:58] <smokeymirror> but everytime i do, the same old files are there
[08:59] <nathanhelp> jim_p: how do I do that? it's not available for installation via synaptic.
[08:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> how do i check what graphic drivers i have installed?
[08:59] <mandrig> \\`oot, cups?
[08:59] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> does gfxinfo tell me?
[09:00] <Flannel> smokeymirror: Which old files?
[09:00] <jim_p> nathanhelp, do you have the medibuntu repo?
[09:00] <\\`oot> cups?
[09:00] <sloopy> \\`oot, samba?
[09:00] <nathanhelp> jim_p: probably not.
[09:00] <\\`oot> so what you guys are saying is... probably not an "Easy" way
[09:00] <\\`oot> huh?
[09:01] <smokeymirror> like the programs that were installed before
[09:01] <jim_p> nathanhelp, then use the medibuntu repo
[09:01] <smokeymirror> i deleted the .wine folder in my home directory and nothing
[09:01] <jim_p> !medibuntu
[09:01] <nathanhelp> jim_p: thanks
[09:03] <smokeymirror> anyone
[09:04] <jim_p> smokeymirror, did you use alacarte to delete the folder?
[09:04] <smokeymirror> i dont know what alacarte is
[09:04] <smokeymirror> i went to symatic and clicked on mark for  complete removal
[09:04] <smokeymirror> and then i went to my home folder and show hidden
[09:04] <jim_p> open a terminal or alt+f2 and type                    alacarte
[09:06] <uskill> any ideas why an init.d script won't shfsmount correctly? like, the command just doesnt execute?
[09:07] <CaMason> I created a script that has mkdir /var/log/apache2 and use update-rc, but it seems to have not worked after booting. Is this because the script isn't running as root?
[09:07] <jim_p> soreau, are you still there? can you give me the nvidia url again? i closed the tab! please please please
[09:08] <philsf> jim_p: sorry I never got back to you. you asked me if I have a bluetooth icon, I do
[09:08] <raylu> jim_p: ctrl+shift+t
[09:08] <raylu> jim_p: (in firefox)
[09:08] <accau> ctrl+alt+backspace ^_^
[09:08] <jim_p> philsf, double clicking it it will get you the bluetooth options and the like
[09:09] <jim_p> raylu, ok i closed firefox entirely! dont bash me
[09:09] <raylu> jim_p: it should still be there
[09:09] <jim_p> yey i got it in history
[09:10] <accau> go all on winxp (:
[09:10] <phytopius> ok
[09:11] <accau> or mac )
[09:11] <soreau> jim_p: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Gentoo_2007.0_on_a_ThinkPad_R61#xorg.conf
[09:11] <jim_p> soreau, thanks
[09:11] <smokeymirror> thank you guys for the alacarte stuff
[09:11] <accau> yep, gentoo very funny distr
[09:11] <smokeymirror> now if you guys want a real challenge and a few hours can you help me get my wireless up
[09:11] <philsf> jim_p: if you mean the preferences, there's only a remove button in the services tab, audio section
[09:11] <jim_p> smokeymirror, did you find it??
[09:11] <smokeymirror> yea
[09:12] <patb> anyone up?
[09:12] <smokeymirror> the wireless card is a 5100 its on a hp dv5 and it has a touch button
[09:12] <smokeymirror> the card is recognized but it just wont work for nothing
[09:12] <pawan1> hi
[09:12] <patb> is ubuntu tweak for gnome desktop bad? just wondering if it could compromise security
[09:12] <pawan1> how to install winhiip in ubuntu
[09:13] <pawan1> !winhiip
[09:13] <jim_p> philsf, then i cant help more. all i can say is to check if the bluetooth on the pc scans the headset with              hcitool scan
[09:13] <jim_p> smokeymirror, does it scan networks around it?
[09:13] <smokeymirror> when i scan it says no results
[09:14] <smokeymirror> but when i use my friends psp it shows like 4 different wireless access points
[09:14] <patb> you tryig to get a bluetooth headset in ubuntu
[09:14] <jim_p> smokeymirror, lspci | grep Wireless
[09:14] <patb> did it awjile back with a bluesoleil dongle
[09:14] <smokeymirror> it returns nothing
[09:14] <bora> hi all Iam using ubuntu  and I ve a some small problems
[09:14] <smokeymirror> 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection
[09:14] <jim_p> smokeymirror, is it a usb wireless thing?
[09:14] <bora> about compis and side bar
[09:14] <smokeymirror> nope
[09:15] <smokeymirror> built in
[09:15] <jim_p> oh there it is
[09:15] <quinn> 下的全是FLAC和
[09:15] <rww> smokeymirror: some built-in wireless nics use the USB bus
[09:15] <quinn> APE
[09:15] <pawan1> how to install ps2 games in hardrive in ubuntu
[09:15] <smokeymirror> i wouldn't know how to check that
[09:15] <jim_p> smokeymirror, can i pm you for a sec? i want you to identify if a module is loaded
[09:15] <rww> !cn | quinn
[09:15] <smokeymirror> but i have a little red wifi button thats supposed to control the on and off and it doesn't work, i tried everything
[09:16] <aslkfjwjwj> is playing ps2 game in pc able to do??
[09:16] <quinn> soory , i input to the wrong room
[09:16] <pawan1> what is ntfs-3g
[09:16] <pawan1> !wine
[09:16] <rww> !ntfs-3g > pawan1
[09:16] <jim_p> pawan1, well you need an emulator for the games. ntfs3g is the needed tool to mount ntfs drives and read and write on them
[09:17] <smokeymirror> sure
[09:17] <smokeymirror> pm away
[09:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> YAY!
[09:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> i think it's worked.
[09:18] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> It's now seeing my second monitor, and dual head's are now working.
[09:20] <rww> pawan1, aslkfjwjwj: Emulation of Playstation 2 games is of questionable legality (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_emulator#Legal_issues ), and is therefore offtopic for Ubuntu channels.
[09:21] <pawan1> how to instal wine
[09:21] <rww> pawan1: sudo apt-get install wine. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine#Installing%20Wine
[09:21] <jim_p> pawan1, sudo apt-get install wine
[09:21] <jim_p> pawan1, wine DOES NOT play playstation games!
[09:22] <pawan1> i want to run winhiip in ubuntu
[09:22] <pawan1> its an exe
[09:22] <pawan1> so usuing wine
[09:22] <aslkfjwjwj> is it able to use MSIE in ubuntu with the wine?
[09:23] <preston> does it ultimately matter if i set my monitors resolution at 60hz or 75hz
[09:23] <preston> normally it looks better at 75hz but on ubuntu it looks better at 60 any ideas as to why
[09:23] <rww> preston: probably not. If you have an LCD monitor, it'll ignore your refresh rate setting. If you have a CRT and can't tell the difference, it won't make any difference.
[09:24] <preston> i have a lcd
[09:24] <patb> anyone know anything bout opendns on ubuntu
[09:24] <patb> secure or a bunch of bs?
[09:24] <preston> rww 60hz is a pretty standard refresh rate correct?
[09:25] <rww> patb: i've used it before. it's faster than most internet service providers' DNS servers. Not sure what you mean by "secure"
[09:25] <patb> i mean will it direct me to bs sites
[09:25] <rww> preston: yes. 60Hz or 75Hz both are
[09:25] <rww> patb: it doesn't right now. could always change, since it's a third-party company, but it's always been fine when i've used it
[09:25] <preston> rww that wouldnt be enough to get flicker one way or the other would it?
[09:26] <worldcitizen> Hey, I'd like to connect to my vps. what application can I use to connect to it? I tried terminal server client but that didn't work..
[09:27] <worldcitizen> it's an ubuntu vps by the way
[09:27] <rww> preston: If you're using an LCD, the refresh rate you set in Ubuntu won't be applied to your monitor, so it doesn't matter how you set it
[09:28] <preston> im able to set it by acsessing root terminal and changing my nvidia settings there rww
[09:28] <rww> preston: this is identical to Windows. LCD monitors don't have a "refresh rate" like CRTs. The only thing that refreshes is the backlight, and those aren't user-controllable.
[09:28] <rww> preston: yes, and that setting is NOT USED by the monitor
[09:29] <preston> rww so the 60 and 75 is just for the backlight?
[09:29] <funnydude> hiya
[09:29] <funnydude> can i get help with Fedora here?
[09:30] <rww> preston: no, the 60 and 75 are for the refresh rate on CRT monitors. Since you have an LCD monitor, the refresh rate setting is NOT USED. Backlights typically operate at about 200Hz, and their settings can't be changed by Linux or you.
[09:30] <Gr33n3gg> funnydude: join #fedora
[09:30] <rww> funnydude: nope. Try the channel #fedora on this server.
[09:30] <funnydude> #fedora
[09:30] <funnydude> doesn't take me anywhere
[09:30] <rww> funnydude: type /join #fedora
[09:31] <preston> funnydude also make sure your connected to freenode and not ubuntu servers
[09:31] <rww> preston: it doesn't matter. irc.ubuntu.com redirects to freenode.
[09:33] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Can i set desktops to a second head?
[09:33] <smokeymirror_> jim_p u still around
[09:34] <jim_p> smokeymirror, here i am
[09:34] <jim_p> smokeymirror_,
[09:35] <mercutio22> Good morning, How can I add a new plugin to rhythmbox, I got a phyton file from somewhere
[09:35] <pawan1> how to install tar.gz file
[09:35] <pawan1> i wnat to install hdl dump
[09:35] <pawan1> http://psx-scene.com/forums/ide-hdd-discussion/54654-linux-hdl_dump-gui-very-early-alpha.html
[09:36] <alex_mayorga> !cleanup
[09:36] <alex_mayorga> how do I make my system clean intrepid if I've been on it since alpha?
[09:38] <restartme> em
[09:38] <restartme> Hello
[09:38] <restartme> :d
[09:39] <restartme> I have just upgraded to 8.10 and i found monitors.xml
[09:39] <restartme> What i need to do now? :(
[09:40] <restartme> I was edited it, restarted computer, but nothing happens :(
[09:41] <soreau> What are you trying to do?
[09:41] <chilli0> hey all
[09:41] <restartme> I am trying to increse resolution, from 800x600
[09:41] <restartme> Hi :)
[09:41] <chilli0> im having a  evil error
[09:41] <chilli0> im trying to install ubuntu
[09:41] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau, i did modprobe radeon and then restarted, and xorg.0.log loads with ati, no problems at all.
[09:41] <chilli0> but it wont let me partionn the hard drive
[09:41] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> but gfxinfo still gives me error.
[09:41] <pawan1> how to install tar.gz file
[09:41] <chilli0> i get an error  every time
[09:42] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Dual head now runs, so i think it'll be fine.
[09:42] <restartme> I think, you should extract it first. No?
[09:42] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: You probably still have some fglrx files lingering from using envy
[09:42] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau, But they wouldnt be in use from the gfx card right'?
[09:42] <rww> !error
[09:43] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau,  as i've told xorg.conf to use 'radeon'?
[09:43] <chilli0> Does anyone have expert experience with partioning hard drives?
[09:43] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: Try sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri then run glxinfo
[09:43] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Anyone know how i can use a different physical monitor for multi desktops?
[09:45] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau, Badrequest (invalid request code or no such operation
[09:45] <soreau> Oh well
[09:45] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Sorry, that was when doing gfxinfo
[09:46]  * CoUrPsE|DeAd shrugs.
[09:46] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: You can use xrandr with the open driver to configure dual head
[09:46] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> I'm happy with the progress.
[09:46] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> Humm, dunno if i got open driver, lol.
[09:46] <soreau> Radeon is the open driver
[09:46] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> oh, sorry, my bad.
[09:46] <bora> thanks all friends
[09:47] <quik__> hey folks
[09:47] <quik__> anyone able to help out with some iptables?
[09:47] <riz0n> Does anyone have a good howto on how to convert postfix on Ubuntu to receive email on multi-domains and not require that the email account does not require linux accountholder?
[09:47] <chilli0> Does anyone have expert experience with partioning hard drives?
[09:47] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau, i did xrandr and it told me alot of info on each head, How can i configure? xrandr --config ?
[09:47] <milos_> hi all are hear some one from serbia ?
[09:48] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau, nevermind, i did --help.
[09:48] <soreau> CoUrPsE|DeAd: Read 'xrandr --help' or more info with 'man xrandr'
[09:49] <alex_mayorga> !puregnome
[09:49] <rww> milos_: The Ubuntu Serbia IRC channel is at #ubuntu-rs. Maybe there?
[09:49] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> soreau, Do you know if there are options to configure the muti desktop to choose a single physical monitor?
[09:49] <reaktae> Hey guys, I need help. I used UNetBootIN to install ubuntu and now my pendrive won't mount ANYWHERE except for the system I installed from it. I tried gparted but had not luck - XP still only gives the infamous "device malfunction" message and Acronis bootable tools say that the device failed to accept a mount-request. The drive doesn't appear to be broken but it works ONLY in ubuntu! Any ideas please?
[09:50] <chilli0> Does gparted have a irc channel
 : I don't know - does it?
[09:51] <chilli0> i dont know
[09:51] <jim_p> anyone ever used lxde?
[09:51] <chilli0> thats why i asked
 irc.gnome.org #gparted
[09:52] <chilli0> what port?
[09:53] <rww> chilli0: I'd assume the default, 6667, would be fine.
[09:53] <chop> hey what a best programe to use for yahoo
[09:53] <chilli0> thanks rww
[09:53] <jim_p> chop, pidgin. surely not the best but it does connect
[09:54] <rww> chop: Pidgin on Gnome or Kopete on KDE
[09:54] <chop> any thin else out   there u know
[09:54] <jim_p> chop, ayttm
[09:55] <chilli0> rww im in the gparted channel , but im the only one here
[09:55] <rww> chilli0: I'm not the one who sent you there. Ask reaktae ;)
[09:55] <chop> i  need it with voice with yahoo
[09:55] <chilli0> reaktae its not works
 i don't know ... must not be busy or something... what did you need help with?
[09:56] <chilli0> well, i cant repartion my hard drive
[09:57] <nathanhelp> You guys want to hear a funny/sad ubuntu-user-system failure success story? it'll only be two sentences or so.
 did you wanna tell me more about it or do i need to ask about everything? you want help? then go.....
[09:57] <chilli0> ok
[09:57] <chilli0> i have a hiatchie hard drive and it wont repartion
[09:58] <chilli0> i have the error file if u want
[09:58] <rww> nathanhelp: if it involves a support question, yes. If not, #ubuntu-offtopic would like it better
[09:58] <alex_mayorga> !offtopic > nathanhelp
[09:58] <nathanhelp> allrighty. I'll go to offtopic. however the answer may help other "noobs" like me.
[09:59] <chilli0> reaktae ill pb the code
[09:59] <restartme> Em
[09:59] <restartme> This is really pissed me off
[09:59] <restartme> :(
[09:59] <restartme> :'(
[09:59] <chilli0> http://pastebin.com/m5cf43006 reaktae
[10:00] <Ezro> Hey guys
[10:00] <Ezro> I just got done installing Ubuntu
[10:00] <Ezro> And I have to say, this is pretty complicated lol
[10:00] <chilli0> Ezro lucky u
[10:00] <chilli0> i cant install its :P
[10:00] <restartme> Now upgrade to 8.10
[10:00] <rww> !enter
[10:00] <Ezro> I have 8.10
[10:00] <restartme> Oh :D
[10:01] <xerox1> is there any backup tool that supports something like versioning (similar to svn)?
[10:01] <chilli0> svn?
[10:01] <restartme> How to increase resolution, do you think i will live with this 640x480? ...
[10:02] <restartme> :'(
[10:02] <chilli0> ouch
[10:02] <restartme> Hello..
[10:02] <chilli0> hi
[10:02] <restartme> Hi :)
[10:03] <restartme> Will you help me?
[10:03] <eth01> !ask | restartme
[10:03] <chilli0> he did ask a question
[10:03] <restartme> yep
[10:03] <jtaji> xerox1: you could use svn... but rdiff-backup stores diffs allowing you to retrieve files from older times
[10:03] <eth01> funny but not funny.
[10:03] <chilli0> what?
[10:03] <gligorhor> i want to install a new network card, how can i do that?
[10:03] <restartme> !ask | eth01
 How to increase resolution, do you think i will live with this 640x480? ...
[10:04] <chilli0> brb
[10:04] <restartme> ..
[10:04] <restartme> :/
[10:04] <restartme> I have upgraded to 8.10
[10:04] <AMDMutant> restartme: try system > preferences > screen resolution
[10:04] <thechris> restartme: what video card are you using?
[10:04] <xerox1> jtaji: but then i need a server...i would like to leave that out
[10:05] <restartme> geforce mx 440
[10:05] <Ezro> I think I am going to uninstall Ubuntu already xD
[10:05] <Ezro> I'm not liking this too much lol
[10:05] <restartme> it's workinkg on windows even with 1600x900
[10:05] <gligorhor> i want to install a new network card, how can i do that? i tried to make a new init rd but it wond load my card
[10:05] <jtaji> xerox1: either solution can be used locally
[10:05] <thechris> restartme: if its not an issue with preferences, its likely that the driver in xorg.con is falling back to vga
[10:05] <restartme> so....
[10:05] <Gnea> restartme: which vesion of the driver do you have installed?
[10:05] <restartme> what i need to do damn? :(
[10:05] <restartme> wait
[10:06] <restartme> 96
 why is your drive in ntfs?
[10:06] <restartme> enabled, and restarded.
[10:06] <Gnea> restartme: first of all, you need to calm down and not react negatively.
[10:06] <chilli0> ask it
[10:06] <restartme> yeah yeah ...
[10:06] <Gnea> restartme: okay
[10:06] <nathanhelp> jim_p: yo ustill around?
[10:06] <AMDMutant> restartme: try play with /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:06] <Gnea> restartme: eth01 wasn't very helpful, so if he steps out of line again, don't worry about it
[10:06] <restartme> trying to increase resolution from yesterday... how do you would no be pissed off?
[10:06] <thechris> restartme: various things like "lsmod | grep nv" might help
 it says right in the log "Opening '/dev/sda1' as NTFS failed: Operation not supported"
[10:07] <restartme> i dont undertand these
[10:07] <soreau> restartme: Run 'nvidia-settings' from a terminal
 do you dual-boot?
[10:07] <restartme> "lsmod | grep nv"
[10:07] <thechris> restartme: as will grep nv /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:07]  * nathanhelp thanks all who helped him in the last 3 hours.
[10:07] <Gnea> restartme: tell you what - if you wanna go AFK for a bit and chill out for awhile, then come back to it, i'll be happy to help you through it
[10:08] <thechris> restartme: lsmod lists all drivers running.  | sends the output to grep, which returns only lines with "nv"in them
[10:08] <Gnea> thechris: it doesn't help that everyone is giving him several different directions to go in
[10:09] <thechris> i'm assuming ubuntu is using nv for the mx440.  IIRC, GF2/3 support has been deprecated from the nvidia mainstream drivers
[10:10] <chilli0> back
[10:10] <Gnea> thechris: he's actually installed the nvidia driver for it - but he's got an older card, so he might need to install 71
[10:10] <thechris> restartme: and | is not "I", but rather the combo of shift+\  (on US qwerty keyboards at least)
[10:10] <restartme> what the fuck
[10:10] <restartme> :D
[10:10] <chilli0> reaktae, the computer came like this
[10:10] <Gnea> restartme: please, watch the language
[10:10] <restartme> i have increased resolution, in some way...
[10:10] <thechris> Gnea: meh, nv and nvida will both be picked up by grep
[10:10] <Gnea> thechris: true
[10:11] <restartme> but i am now scrooling on desktop with mouse.
[10:11] <restartme> i have changed panning
[10:11] <restartme> ..
[10:11] <restartme> :(
[10:11] <NicEXE> where can I configure the keyboard shortcuts?
[10:11] <restartme> i just dont get it..
[10:11] <thechris> restartme: interesting.  this is the virtual resolution.  eg, you've set the desktop to a size larger then the monitor can display
[10:11] <sybux> hi all. Can someone tell me how to view a DVD in ubuntu ? I only got the video_ts folder it's not on a DVD
 is it a dual-boot machine?
[10:12] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> NicEXE, System,Prefences,Keyboard shortcuts.
[10:12] <Gnea> restartme: were you able to get above 640x480?
[10:12] <restartme> ?
[10:12] <restartme> nvidia-settings
[10:12] <restartme> in termininal
 is there windows installed on the computer?
[10:13] <restartme> x Server Display Configuration -> Display -> Panning.
[10:13] <NicEXE> CoUrPsE|DeAd: It does not provide custom shortcuts (like launch <that program>)
[10:13] <Gnea> restartme: i don't understand what you're talking about... were you able to get the resolution to increase?
[10:13] <quibbler_> sybux, install vlc from Synaptica and you can open the directory video_ts with vlc
[10:13] <thechris> Gnea: no, see my comment.  I've intentionally done this before
[10:13] <restartme> i have just said..
[10:14] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> NicEXE, Ahh, i see, i dont know sorry.
[10:14] <Gnea> well, clearly i don't know what i'm talking about then. sorry.
[10:14] <restartme> not again..
[10:14] <thechris> Gnea: you can set a virtual desktop size thats different then the monitor's resolution.  its useful for programs with 1200px tall menus
[10:15] <thechris> restartme: for me to be able to help, i'll need to know what is actually running at the moment
[10:15] <thechris> restartme: the way that I know to do this will involve using a terminal
[10:15] <restartme> is there some remote desktop on ubuntu?
[10:15] <Gnea> thechris: ah okay - i knew about that, just never heard it referred to as 'panning' before
[10:16] <restartme> Could just someone who knows what he is doing connect to me, apply resolution and it would be done
[10:16] <thechris> restartme: yes, but i'm guessing it would take longer to set that up.  especially if you have a router or such in the way.
[10:16] <restartme> now router
[10:16] <restartme> not router i think..
[10:16] <restartme> :/
[10:16] <Gnea> restartme: that's not how we do things here. we help guide you so that YOU will know how to do it right. can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please?
[10:17] <restartme> wait
[10:17] <Gnea> ?
[10:17] <sybux> quibbler_: I'm using vlc but I can't open the dvd menu only vob file individuay
[10:18] <restartme> My xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/94189/
[10:18] <thechris> restartme: as a note, it does not seem that ssh (the simplest remote login" is accessible.  I'm guessing it would take longer to get that working.
[10:18] <restartme> :
[10:18] <restartme> :/
[10:19] <thechris> restartme: if you type lsmod, do you see either nv or nvidia listed?
[10:19] <restartme> Em
[10:19] <Gnea> restartme: okay, now can you please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:20] <quibbler_> sybux, go to File-Open Directory and point vlc to the directory only
[10:20] <flaccid> you just install the package openssh-server for ssh daemon
[10:20] <restartme> What i need to paste for you, to connect
[10:20] <restartme> IP, user?
[10:20]  * Gnea is not going to connect remotely
[10:20] <flaccid> yeah thats bad
[10:21] <restartme> I have pasted for you my xorg.conf, whats now?
[10:21] <thechris> restartme: you need ssh to be running, and for no proxies to be in the way
[10:21] <restartme> maybea you think that i some stupid donkey or what?
[10:21] <Gnea> restartme: okay, now can you please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:21] <flaccid> thechris i think you mean firewalls.
[10:21] <sybux> quibbler_: doesn't seems to work
[10:21] <CapaH> Is it possible to set up a remote ubuntu machine SERVER to run gnome, and to be able to vncviewer into it?
[10:21] <CapaH> without having any console access to said machine - purely remote access
[10:21] <flaccid> CapaH sure just use x11vnc
[10:21] <Gnea> restartme: ...
[10:22] <CapaH> flaccid: Will x11vnc work if there is technically no monitor plugged into said machine? It is a 'virtual' machine ?
[10:22] <Gnea> restartme: well, if that's what you would have us believe...
[10:22] <thechris> flaccid: well, anything doing a NAT will be as bad.  port forwarding isn't generally set up
[10:22] <flaccid> CapaH yep
[10:22] <CapaH> I will do that
[10:22] <flaccid> thechris incorrect
[10:22] <Phoenix87> hallo
[10:22] <restartme> http://paste.ubuntu.com/94191/
[10:22] <Phoenix87> i'm facing some problem with my usb joypad
[10:23] <Mnemonic^> Hi .. I need a little help... I just testet connected to the internet using my mobile phone on the live cd, but after I installed Ubuntu, I cannot connect. Is does not show up in Network-Manager. Does anyone know what to install to get it working?
[10:23] <Phoenix87> unfortunately i used jscalibrator :(
[10:23] <thechris> CapaH: note that X11/ssh and XDM btoh support remote login with graphics
[10:23] <Gnea> restartme: thank you. btw, donkeys can't use computers. :)
[10:23] <quibbler_> sybux, I don't understand, I've never had a problem. Are you sure it is a valid video directory?
[10:23] <Phoenix87> i tried to unplug joypad / completely remove jscalibrator
[10:23] <Phoenix87> but that didn't solve the problem
[10:23] <restartme> monkeys can,
[10:23] <flaccid> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC#x11vnc
 if you're still there, try this. Boot into Windows and shut them down properly first. then retry what you've been doing... gparted cannot manage ntfs unless windoze shut down was clean...
[10:24] <restartme> whats now? o.O
[10:24] <thechris> restartme: the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log will contain a list of things xorg did, or didn't do.
[10:25] <Gnea> restartme: well, if you want to get technical, your monitor can't autoconfigure itself with nvidia, so you're going to need to set the monitor parameters in the xorg.conf manually. what make/model is your monitor?
[10:25] <restartme> what i know
[10:25] <Mnemonic^> Does anyone know what to install to get Mobile Broadband working?
[10:25] <restartme> jui am just pasted what she/he told
[10:25] <hothollas> for the eepc, is there a special ubuntu distro?
[10:25] <Gnea> thechris: he pasted it already
[10:25] <[a]D> out of all the distros i have tried ubuntu seems to work flawlessly  with my hardware and even my ATI card
[10:25] <hothollas> jamaica. big up
[10:25] <Gnea> hothollas: yeah, check out #ubuntu-eeepc
[10:25] <restartme> crt
[10:25] <hothollas> Gnea: Thank you very much. much appreciatted
[10:26] <Gnea> restartme: i know it's a CRT, but who made it?
[10:26] <restartme> hewlett packard. it's old
[10:26] <Gnea> restartme: okay, is there a model number on the front or back somewhere?
[10:26] <Gnea> yes, most CRTs are old, since they're not manufactured anymore
[10:26] <restartme> PACKARD D2807A
[10:26] <reaktae>  I need help. I used UNetBootIN to install ubuntu and now my pendrive won't mount ANYWHERE except for the system I installed from it. I tried gparted but had not luck - XP still only gives the infamous "device malfunction" message and Acronis bootable tools say that the device failed to accept a mount-request. The drive doesn't appear to be broken but it works ONLY in ubuntu! Any ideas please?
[10:27] <restartme> :)
[10:27] <flaccid> reaktae gparted does not mount filesystems. xp requires an ext2/3 driver to mount it.
[10:27] <Phoenix87> bump
[10:27] <[a]D> reaktae: you wanna put xp  back on?
[10:28] <Phoenix87> anyone can help me with my usb joypad problem?
 are you following up on my advise do chilli0 or are you talking about my pendrive? 'cause none of those were etx2/3. ntfs in both cases
[10:29] <restartme> and?
[10:29] <soreau> Phoenix87: What's the problem?
[10:29] <flaccid> reaktae if its ntfs, what is the error when you mount it?
[10:29] <Mnemonic^> Hi .. I need a little help... I just testet connected to the internet using my mobile phone on the live cd, but after I installed Ubuntu, I cannot connect. Is does not show up in Network-Manager. Does anyone know what to install to get it working?
[10:29] <Gnea> restartme: looking...
[10:29] <restartme> kk :)
[10:29] <Mnemonic^> It is a Nokia phone
 no, I use my pendrive to carry files between multiple computers/systems? why do you ask?
[10:29] <Phoenix87> soreau: i used jscalibrator on it
[10:29] <Mnemonic^> USB connected
[10:30] <soreau> Phoenix87: That's not a problem
[10:30] <chillix> hi all , what format must the hard drive be for ubuntu?
[10:30] <christopher> ext3 is recommended
[10:30] <Phoenix87> soreau: unfortunately it is 'cause axes stopped working
[10:30] <flaccid> chillix format of what?
[10:30] <chillix> thanks christopher
[10:30] <soreau> Phoenix87: Even after a reboot?
[10:30] <Phoenix87> yep
[10:31] <Phoenix87> i unplugged the controller
[10:31] <soreau> Phoenix87: Try 'jstest'
[10:31] <Phoenix87> i even completely removed jscalibrator
[10:31] <Phoenix87> soreau: jstest works fine
[10:31] <soreau> Phoenix87: So what's wrong exactly?
[10:31] <Phoenix87> even jscal seems to work fine
[10:32] <Phoenix87> soreau: when in a game, supertux say, axes don't work
[10:32] <Phoenix87> only buttons work
[10:32] <s3a> can someone help me put distro installer on flash drive so i can install using that instead of optical disc?
[10:32] <soreau> Phoenix87: If the axes work in jstest, it is a matter of setting said game to use the axes accordingly
[10:33] <Gnea> !usb | s3a
[10:33] <Mnemonic^> Please help me
 it does not mount anywhere except for ubuntu and there are no errors then. in xp it says "device not recognised? and it cuts the drive's power after that...
[10:33] <restartme> gnea
[10:33] <restartme> hey
[10:33] <AMDMutant> Mnemonic^: try use umtsmon
[10:33] <Gnea> restartme: still looking
[10:33] <restartme> nonono
[10:33] <restartme> em
[10:33] <flaccid> reaktae if you use the mount command and it fails, it will give you an error message.
[10:33] <AMDMutant> Mnemonic^: or use wvdial
[10:33] <restartme> if, you ca. paste some info what to do in pvt
[10:33] <Phoenix87> soreau: searching on the internet this seems to be a common problem for those who used jscalibrator, but the common solution isn't the solution for me :(
[10:33] <flaccid> reaktae furthermore this is not windows support..
[10:33] <restartme> i need go to store..
[10:33] <Mnemonic^> AMDMutant: But I just testet it on the LiveCD NetworkManager worked great
[10:33]  * jluc is away: Gone away for now
[10:33] <restartme> mom..
[10:33] <restartme> :D
[10:34] <restartme> k?
[10:34] <Mnemonic^> AMDMutant: Why does it not work after installation?
[10:34] <soreau> Phoenix87: Then file a bug or look up a bug report for jscalibrator
[10:34] <Phoenix87> in addition axes used to work fine in supertux prior to jscalibrator
 mounting is not possible because the drive is not powered up. ubuntu mounts it just fine
[10:34] <Phoenix87> soreau: I did that but the suggested solution doesn't work for me :(
[10:35] <s3a> Gnea, i DONT want to install on usb flash drive, i want installer on flash drive so that i can install on another hard drive
[10:35] <flaccid> reaktae this aint ##windows
[10:35] <Gnea> s3a: that's what the first URL talks about
[10:35] <soreau> Phoenix87: Well I doubt I have used the exact hardware and configuration you have so I don't have an answer for your specific situation
[10:35] <AMDMutant> Mnemonic^: NetworkManager applet not shown?
[10:36] <Gnea> restartme: check this out<EMAIL_ADDRESS>you should try the monitor section settings
[10:36] <Phoenix87> soreau: don't worry ;) I appreciate your help!
[10:36] <Gnea> restartme: just omit the 640x480 line
 the thing is that this happened after using unetbootin to load ubuntu and that is what this channel is for, right? it's not just windows i'm having problems with - it's any system other than the particular ubuntu install i made off the pendrive.
[10:37] <Mnemonic^> AMDMutant: It is shown, but the Mobile Broadband connection wizard does not popup when I connect my Phone using USB, so it seams that is does not recognize it.
[10:37] <flaccid> reaktae no this is not unetbootin support nor does your assumptions conclude anything sorry
[10:37] <AMDMutant> Mnemonic^: add it yourself
[10:38] <Mnemonic^> AMDMutant: I tried that, but the connect button in NetworkManager does not show, so it seams that I does not recognize the Phone
[10:39] <flaccid> why would it recognise the phone is the question considering its proprietery
[10:39] <Mnemonic^> AMDMutant: Is there some addon that I should install to get it working?
[10:39] <AMDMutant> Mnemonic^: lsusb
[10:39] <restartme> what i need to do with this? ;?
[10:39] <restartme> :/
[10:40] <Mnemonic^> AMDMutant: I will give you lsusb in a minute.. This is what I get in messages when I connect the phone: cdc_acm 7-2:1.10: ttyACM0: USB ACM device
 you've got to be kidding me m8. do you see me assuming such anywhere above? i'm not a newbie that's lost here. i'm only asking for help. if that's a problem / you don't know how to help - than why do you bother answering? what happened to your "relay" in irc?
[10:40] <flaccid> Mnemonic^ you need a driver if it even exists.
[10:40] <flaccid> reaktae you seem emotional
[10:41] <restartme> gnea
[10:41] <Mnemonic^> AMDMutant: This is lsusb: Bus 007 Device 011: ID 0421:0042 Nokia Mobile Phones
[10:41] <Mnemonic^> flaccid: It works on the Ubuntu LiveCD
[10:41] <AMDMutant> Mnemonic^: you use /dev/ttyACM0 as the device?
[10:41] <Gnea> restartme: well, since your monitor is old, the only way to find anything on it is to reference xfree86, the predecessor to xorg - so what you need to do is edit your xorg.conf in the monitor section to reflect what's on that site
[10:41] <Mnemonic^> AMDMutant: Ok .. where do I define the device in network manager?
[10:41] <flaccid> Mnemonic^ if you did desktop live cd install, its the same image, if so report a bug
[10:42] <restartme> copy everything from there to xorg.conf? Yes?
[10:42] <restartme> :)
[10:42] <gmathews> Hi - trying to load a facebook plugin for Amarok 1.4 - it says 'You must have `kdialog` installed to run this script' - I cant find kdialog on Synaptic. Running Ubuntu 8.10
[10:42] <Gnea> restartme: NO. just the Section "Monitor"
[10:42] <restartme> replace?
[10:42] <reaktae> can anyone suggest any low-level partition editors / not gparted?
[10:42] <restartme> monitor section with monitor? yes? :D
[10:42] <Gnea> restartme: yeah, try it out and see what happens
[10:42] <restartme> kk
[10:43] <Mnemonic^> flaccid: Are we sure the config files and everything is the same?
[10:43] <flaccid> how tf would i know
[10:43] <restartme> where is xorg.conf?]
[10:43] <flaccid> the image is the same but thats it
[10:43] <restartme> :D
[10:43] <restartme> i forgot :(
[10:44] <Mnemonic^> flaccid: Huh .. Is there a group that my user might not be member of then?
[10:44] <flaccid> no idea sorry
[10:44] <flaccid> im out
[10:44] <gmathews> restartme: gmathews@Open-Sourced-Machine:/etc/X11$
 i sure am emotional since my pendrive has been rendered useless with the last use of unetbootin\
[10:46] <AMDMutant> Mnemonic^: NetworkManager seem cant set the device
[10:46] <fargiolas> hi, is there a way to install ubuntu-mid usb image into the hard disk and launch it from grub?
[10:46] <Mnemonic^> AMDMutant: Yes .. But why .. It works on the LiveCD
[10:47] <AMDMutant> Mnemonic^: probably a bug
[10:47] <Mnemonic^> AMDMutant: Huh .. I will google on ...
[10:47] <AMDMutant> Mnemonic^: use other tools like wvdial
[10:48] <Mnemonic^> AMDMutant: Thanks anyway .. I will just lock out to test something..
[10:51] <quibbler_> Ex-Chat
[10:52] <rockyrock> plzzz i need help here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1023184
[10:52] <AestheticTheory> monkeyss
[10:53] <md22> hello
[10:54] <AestheticTheory> i gotsa question.
[10:55] <md22> i am looking for a graphics card to do some gaming and one that is also compatible with linux. which has best compatibility  radeon 4850 or geforce gtx 260 ?
[10:57] <noswears> Thinking of building a new PC just for ubuntu - is it worth getting a decent graphics card or not really? What would you reccomend? This probably won't be used for games, BTW.
[10:57] <CaptainMorgan> !hcl | md22
[10:57] <PROBCLONE> Sorry, i don't know about hcl.
[10:57] <md22> ok
[10:58] <Gnea> !botsnack
[10:58] <PROBCLONE> Sorry, i don't know about botsnack.
[10:59] <CaptainMorgan> noswears, "decent" sure. "Outrageous" or "complex", not in my opinion.
[10:59] <CaptainMorgan> PROBCLONE, shut up
[10:59] <Gnea> CaptainMorgan: is that your bot?
[10:59] <tarelerulz1> I have friend that has windows a fears messing up his system.  Is the wubi install like normal install or like running a live cd ?
[10:59] <CaptainMorgan> Gnea, hells no
[10:59] <CaptainMorgan> Gnea, would be nice if its owner could fix it tho
[11:00] <Gr33n3gg> tarelrulz1: Sorta like running a Live CD.
[11:00] <testbottu> hi
[11:00] <sfer21> or pull it out of the channel
[11:00] <CaptainMorgan> Flannel, do you know anything about PROBCLONE ?
[11:01] <CaptainMorgan> or any admins?
[11:01] <Gnea> !ops | is PROBCLONE an authorized ubuntu bot?
[11:01] <PROBCLONE> Sorry, i don't know about ops.
[11:01] <sfer21> !ask|AestheticTheory
[11:01] <PROBCLONE> Sorry, i don't know about ask|AestheticTheory.
[11:01] <Stormx2> CaptainMorgan: I've dropped by #ubuntu-ops and left them a message.
[11:01] <sfer21> oh, wait
[11:01] <Stormx2> Uhg.
[11:01] <Stormx2> Gnea, it isn't really important enough to warrant !ops >.<
[11:01] <tarelerulz1> Gr33n3gg, What I mean by like live cd.   I'm sure it would be faster from your HDD, than a CD.
[11:02] <gnomefreak> Gnea: i am but give me a moment
[11:02] <CaptainMorgan> Stormx2, thanks for leaving a message
[11:02] <Gnea> s/bet/beg/g
[11:02] <Gnea> gnomefreak: okay
[11:03] <Rounin> Hello! I'm on 8.10 and using an AR5007EG card. I understand the madwifi driver that worked with the card doesn't work on 64 bit platforms, so I'd like to use the ath5k driver, which has worked before. But where is it?
[11:03] <Stormx2> sfer21, I've left a emssage in #ubuntu-ops, yeah? First, don't be rude. Second, don't use !ops unless it requires immediate attention. It didn't, so don't use it.
[11:03] <tarelerulz1> Gr33n3gg: How fast is the windows install for Ubuntu .  The one that is iso file based ,but its on the hard drive
[11:03] <christopher> do you plan on watching movies?
[11:03] <christopher> like, high definition movies
[11:03] <christopher> or doing graphics work?
[11:03] <Stormx2> Sorry, that was meant for Gnea, no sf49
[11:03] <sfer21> Stormx2: I didn't use ops and I... wasn't rude :S
[11:03] <sfer21> Aah, ok
[11:03] <Gr33n3gg> Rounin: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k
[11:03] <Stormx2> sf49, my bad. only just woke up.
[11:03] <CaptainMorgan> Gnea, enough with the attitude
[11:03] <Rounin> Thanks Gr33n3gg
[11:03] <sfer21> It's fine, Gnea shouldn't have reacted like that.
[11:04] <Gnea> eh
[11:04] <Stormx2> He shouldn't act like he knows about the channel when he clearly doesn't.
[11:04] <Gr33n3gg> tarelerulz1: Not sure, depends on your HDD speed. I really don't have a clue
[11:04] <Stormx2> Frankly.
[11:04] <christopher> (You all are getting trolled to hell and back, just leave it alone)
[11:04] <CaptainMorgan> thank you gnomefreak !
[11:04] <zetheroo> does the latest version of VLC work in Hardy or only Intrepid?
[11:04] <CaptainMorgan> cheers
[11:04] <sfer21> all users are equal here (except, of course, the ops). what time is it over in the us, anyway?
[11:05] <Stormx2> zetheroo: It'll work on both, but it may not be available in the hardy repos.
[11:05] <sfer21> aah, that would explain the lack of action in here.
[11:05] <tarelerulz1> Gr33n3gg:  That is good answers . My windows friend really want to mess stuff up that he can't fix easy.  from what I understand wubi has great uninstall system
[11:05] <zetheroo> Stormx2: ok I see ... is there a deb of it?
[11:05] <zephyr34> any suggestion of books for newbies
[11:05] <Stormx2> sf49, I think it's 6am, latest over there.
[11:06] <sfer21> thanks
[11:06] <Stormx2> zetheroo, I'll check, one moment
[11:06] <zetheroo> Stormx2: thanks
[11:06] <CaptainMorgan> !book | zephyr34
[11:06] <CaptainMorgan> meh
[11:06] <sfer21> zephyr34: what kind of stage are you up to?
[11:06] <Stormx2> zetheroo, if you don't mind me asking, why do you need the newest version?
[11:07] <CaptainMorgan> I think the official ubuntu book would be good zephyr34; sf49 newbie is a pretty defined stage, no?
[11:07] <zetheroo> Stormx2: Its got a better interface than the one in Hardy
[11:07] <CaptainMorgan> or the guide, if you don't want to pay for the book
[11:07] <AMDMutant> zephyr34: sudo apt-get install debian-reference
[11:07] <Stormx2> Ah
[11:07] <zetheroo> Stormx2: especially when watching video in fullscreen mode
[11:07] <Rounin> Ah, I was apparently misinformed, Gr33n3gg... Mandriva must have been using the experimental madwifi hal 0.10.56 which apparently also works on 64 bit, but will apparently never become mainstream
[11:07] <Gnea> Stormx2: just FYI, the bot wasn't in the #ubuntu-bots channel, therefore it clearly didn't need to be here. haven't ever had to deal with a rogue bot before, so sorry if you felt that I did it wrong, when clearly the problem was solved correctly.
[11:07] <Rounin> The more you know☆
[11:07] <Stormx2> zetheroo, that's true.
[11:08] <rockyrock> what's the name of virtualbox in the repos??
[11:08] <Slart> rockyrock: apt-cache search virtualbox might give you some info
[11:09] <Gnea> !info virtualbox
[11:09] <Stormx2> Gnea, it was solved, but not correctly. Using !ops isn't necessery unless there is an immediate problem. There wasn't, so the course of action would be to leave a message in -ops, which is what I did.
[11:09] <Gnea> !info virtualbox-ose
[11:09] <zephyr34> i do want to work on terminal
[11:09] <zephyr34> for that i need suggestion
[11:09] <Gnea> Stormx2: then let the ops deal with me and go about your own business.
[11:09] <pawan1> ho
[11:10] <pawan1> hi
[11:10] <pawan1> how to instal tar.gz file
[11:10] <christopher> do you mean unpack?
[11:10] <christopher> tar xvf file.tar.gz
[11:10] <Stormx2> Gnea, listen, why don't you just accept that you were a bit gun-ho about the whole thing. It's not a bad thing to admit you're wrong, okay?
[11:10] <rockyrock> Gnea Slart: i found this virtualbox-ose - x86 virtualization solution - binaries
[11:10] <Gnea> Stormx2: just stop right there.
[11:10] <rockyrock> Gnea Slart: is that what i need?
[11:10] <Stormx2> rockyrock, it might be worthwhile getting a .deb off the VirtualBox website, as the non-open source version has USB support.
[11:10] <Gnea> rockyrock: yes
[11:10] <Slart> rockyrock: yay.. that's the one.. ose means open source edition or something like that
[11:10] <zephyr34> i am using ubuntu for 3 month and got well versed with it
[11:11] <Stormx2> Gnea, all I'm saying is that in FUTURE, don't waste op time of trivialities.
[11:11] <guntbert> zephyr34: please ask your real question
[11:11] <zephyr34> but now my interest is to work on terminal
[11:11] <rockyrock> Stormx2: is there a non-open source version of VBOX??
[11:11] <Gnea> Stormx2: you are now on /ignore. have a nice day.
[11:11] <Stormx2> rockyrock, I *think* so.
[11:11] <rockyrock> Stormx2: no there isn't
[11:11] <zephyr34> any good book for the newbie who want to work on that?
[11:11] <zetheroo> Stormx2: this seems to be good ... http://yabblog.com/2008/09/16/updating-vlc-to-092-for-ubuntu-users/
[11:12] <Slart> rockyrock: yes.. there's a closed source one.. with usb support amongst other things
[11:12] <rockyrock> Slart: =-O
[11:12] <Slart> rockyrock: they have two versions, ose is free to use for whatever you want. The closed source one if free for private use
[11:12] <CaptainMorgan> zephyr34, the online guide should suffice
[11:12] <jared2> hello
[11:12] <CaptainMorgan> !guide
[11:12] <jared2> this is Dreamofyou
[11:12] <rockyrock> Slart: what's the difference between the two?
[11:13] <guntbert> !bash | zephyr34
[11:13] <sid> '|' isn't a number!
[11:13] <Slart> rockyrock: usb support is one thing, I don't know if it's more stuff
[11:13] <n2diy> zetheroo, I lost my link to it, but Google for the "Rute Manual"
[11:13] <boka> !bash | bokey
[11:13] <sid> '|' isn't a number!
[11:13] <CaptainMorgan> zephyr34, you mean the gnome-terminal ?
[11:13] <Slart> is sid a bot too?
[11:13] <AMDMutant> n2diy: +1
[11:13] <rockyrock> Slart: so  don't i have any chance to enable usb support in the open-source one?
[11:14] <zetheroo> n2diy: umm whats that?
[11:14] <tarelerulz1> konsole is pretty great terminal program compared to gnomes version .  it has feature that are very useful
[11:14] <zephyr34> yes gnome terminal
[11:14] <n2diy> zetheroo, everything you wanted to know about linux, plus some.
[11:14] <n2diy> AMDMutant, +1???
[11:14] <Slart> rockyrock: from the little info I gathered when I was looking for it... no you can't
[11:14]  * Dam-man Į mitinio klitoriaus paieškas...
[11:15] <CaptainMorgan> zephyr34, curious... what features/bugs do you plan to work on? That's my favorite terminal and I'm not sure it needs to be enhanced...
[11:15] <zetheroo> n2diy: uh ... ok ... but did I ask for something like that? .. I think you have the wrong person here ...
[11:15] <AMDMutant> n2diy: im seconding you
[11:15] <rockyrock> Slart: can i use the non-open source one?
[11:15] <Slart> rockyrock: ehh.. yes?
[11:15] <n2diy> AMDMutant, 10-4!
[11:16] <n2diy> zetheroo, you want to play on the command line, right?
[11:16] <Slart> rockyrock: it's free for personal use.. but listen.. go check their site.. it's got all the info.. and it's directly from the source
[11:16] <zetheroo> n2diy: uh nope
[11:16] <CaptainMorgan> zephyr34, or do you mean.. you need *help* with using the terminal?
[11:16] <zetheroo> hey does anyone have an idea what this means?
[11:16] <CaptainMorgan> what what mean?
[11:17] <zetheroo> oh darn I lost the text
[11:17] <guntbert> n2diy: you probably wanted to address zephyr34 instead of zetheroo
[11:17] <AMDMutant> zephyr34: do you want to get rid terminal?
[11:17] <zephyr34> no morgan i want to do all my work through command terminal
[11:17] <n2diy> zetheroo, whoops, wrong ze*
[11:17] <Slart> zetheroo: you're not going to paste something big in the channel, are you? !pastebin for "oh my good, don't kick me, floodbots"-goodness =)
[11:17] <n2diy> guntbert, roger on that.
[11:18] <CaptainMorgan> zephyr34, do you understand now how not coming straight out with your issue that it can be time consuming to just figure out your problem?
[11:18] <zetheroo> Slart: no ... it was a few words ... but I lost the copy ..
[11:18] <zephyr34> i need suggestion for that
[11:18] <CaptainMorgan> zephyr34, that's fine, but you've yet to display what your problem *actually is*
[11:18] <zephyr34> from where i should start
[11:18] <zephyr34> ?
[11:18] <n2diy> zephyr34, Check out the "Rute Manual" "http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz"
[11:19] <hasselbalch> helo with a test
[11:19] <CaptainMorgan> zephyr34, what are you trying to accomplish??
[11:19] <CaptainMorgan> with the termainl
[11:19] <CaptainMorgan> terminal
[11:19] <AMDMutant> zephyr34: if you want to work with terminal, be terminal your playground
[11:20] <hasselbalch> i am running live with and old ubuntu ver 5?
[11:20] <CaptainMorgan> AMDMutant, ?
[11:20] <CaptainMorgan> zephyr34, - If you want to work with it, then work with it. Why are you asking vague questions here?
[11:21] <jepong> hello... im just wondering will there be a gnome 2.24.2 on ubuntu 8.10?
[11:21] <AMDMutant> something like that ^_^;
[11:21] <CaptainMorgan> I'd like to help, but you're not being explicit in your problem definition
[11:21] <CaptainMorgan> AMDMutant, ah :)
[11:22] <Slart> jepong: I doubt they will put in a new version of gnome before the next release
[11:22] <ardchoille> I thought Jaunty main was frozen already
[11:22] <Slart> jepong: it's only 4 months to .. jaunty or whatever it was called
[11:22] <Stormx2> How many levels of /ignore do I need to be on Gnea before my messages stop coming through?
[11:23] <Stormx2> This is now the second /ignore I've got from you, you'd think they'd cancel eachother out.
[11:23] <CaptainMorgan> Stormx2, you two are still having marital issues ? :)
[11:23] <tarelerulz1> Dose Compiz to run well take  lot of ram , good cpu  and graphical card ?  my older system runs it ,but with all the effect is runs at like  60% if run movie or anything like that
[11:23] <gaelfx1> how can I get SCIM to work for 32-bit apps if my system is 64-bit?
[11:23] <zephyr34> i have fear of corrupting the system
[11:23] <zephyr34> i do not want to that
[11:23] <CaptainMorgan> zephyr34, if you're using gnome-terminal, don't have fear
[11:23] <ardchoille> !nickspam > sfer
[11:24] <CaptainMorgan> zephyr34, unless of course you're using sudo with every command then you should be very afraid
[11:24] <AMDMutant> zephyr34: first rule, backup!
[11:24] <Slart> zephyr34: why not install a vm, that way you can play all you want with no fear at all
[11:24] <Stormx2> CaptainMorgan, the ops changed their tone. I'm feeling more than a little hard done by here. He's been totally impolite and outright incorrect, and some op has just validated the way he acted and told me to drop it.
[11:24] <AMDMutant> Slack_: +1
[11:24] <jepong> thanks! just saw it in 2.26 release schedule that 2.24.2 stable is already released last november i think
[11:24] <Stormx2> So I'm sorta pissed, cause I've put a lot into this channel (I've been here since Breezy!)
[11:24] <CaptainMorgan> Stormx2, pm?
[11:24] <jepong> thanks anyway...
[11:24] <zephyr34> do u mean vm ware
[11:24] <sfer21> ardchoille: sorry about that, irc isn't really my thing - didn't notice it went through to everyone until just then
[11:24] <Slart> !vm | zephyr34
[11:25] <ardchoille> sfer21: ok, glad you're learning :)
[11:25] <AMDMutant> i mean Slart ^_^;
[11:27] <zephyr34> any website or any other good book for the handling the command operation over the terminal
[11:27] <CaptainMorgan> bottom line Stormx2 if the op validated his action, and the other ops agree.. then there's nothing wrong.. but what should be obvious is his tone in conversing with you, which was downright inflammatory and unnecessary
[11:27] <Slart> zephyr34: it's kind of hard to explain.. like a software emulated computer you run in a window.. you can install software on it, run windows/ubuntu/whatever on it.. you can try out stuff and if something breaks you can just start a new little machine =)
[11:27] <guntbert> !bash | zephyr34
[11:27] <sid> '|' isn't a number!
[11:28] <dr_willis> Hmm |
[11:28] <Stormx2> CaptainMorgan: Yeah, I only told him what I know from past experience. I was humble thoughout, and as soon as I was told otherwise by an op I didn't argue >.<
[11:28] <sfer21> (what's happening with "sid"?)
[11:28] <zephyr34> thankyou all
[11:28] <dr_willis> sfer21,  sounds like a script to me.
[11:28] <zephyr34> for the good suggestion
[11:28] <dr_willis> !nvidia | dr_willis
[11:28] <gaelfx1> how can I get SCIM to work with 32-bit apps on a 64-bit system?
[11:28] <Gnea> CaptainMorgan: my god, has it not stopped yet?
[11:29] <sfer21> dr_willis: it only does it when someone types !bash |
[11:29] <sfer21> !bash |
[11:29] <sid> '|' isn't a number!
[11:29] <sfer21> like so
[11:29] <AMDMutant> gaelfx1: you mean running 32bit apps on 64bit?
[11:29]  * CaptainMorgan wishes he didn't just get that last statement.. cuz in actuality Gnea - you're continuing it when it was finished.
[11:29] <dr_willis> sfer21,  a very specific bot? :)
[11:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> lol.
[11:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> bash.org script
[11:29] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> !bash 4
[11:29] <Gnea> CaptainMorgan: may I please pm you?
[11:29] <sid> 4: <EtherMan> stoner chicks suck
[11:29] <sid> 4: <EtherMan> they're a waste of a perfectly good set of breasts.
[11:30] <gaelfx1> AMDMutant: I had no problem installing it with force-architecture, but I can't get SCIM to change IME in the app
[11:30] <sfer21> an extremely specific bot that looks like it has no purpose...
[11:30] <CaptainMorgan> Gnea, I'm not sure why, but I can't deny it since you asked nicely
[11:30] <Slart> ah.. sid is a irc-quote bot..
[11:30] <sfer21> oh, okay
[11:30] <Stormx2> CaptainMorgan: Personally I don't think he's got me on /ignore at all.
[11:30] <dr_willis> i think its time to wave bye bye to sid. :)
[11:30]  * Stormx2 waves
[11:30] <Stormx2> o/
[11:30] <AMDMutant> gaelfx1: if you want running 32bit apps on 64bit install ia32-libs
[11:31] <[Spooky]> Anyone knows a good GUI html editor? Kompozer seems to be buggy as hell...
[11:31] <gaelfx1> AMDMutant: I have no problem running it, but I don't have SCIM immodules in the lib32 folder
[11:31] <gaelfx1> so I can't switch to Chinese input in the app in question, which is QQ by the by
[11:31] <sfer21> [Spooky]: buggy? how?
[11:31] <RogerB> spooky you try screem
[11:31] <Slart> SportChick: mm.. I agree about Kompozer.. just segfaults on me every few minutes..
[11:32] <Slart> oops.. sorry SportChick, wrong nick
[11:32] <Slart> [Spooky]: : mm.. I agree about Kompozer.. just segfaults on me every few minutes..
[11:32] <LMJ> hi
[11:32] <[Spooky]> Slart: Mm annoying hehe..
[11:32] <AMDMutant> Slart: [Spooky] : i use quanta now
[11:32] <Slart> [Spooky]: I've been using bluefish.. but it's not really the same
[11:32] <CaptainMorgan> [Spooky], Firefox's Web Developer is nice for on-the-fly editing ;)
[11:33] <Slart> !info quanta
[11:33] <[Spooky]> AMDMutant: Ok, thanks for the tips everyone i will look into it...
[11:34] <AMDMutant> CaptainMorgan: that too :)
[11:34] <Stormx2> [Spooky], I think the Mozilla suite has an editor. Used to be called "Netscape Composer". That was the first and only WYSIWYG editor I used.
[11:34] <ardchoille> vim is a nice html editor ;)
[11:35] <LMJ> I've read if I want to get my Wifi Atheros card in monitor mode, I have to get a patch version of my madwifi-ng drivers. I'm scared to broke my Ubuntu and/or some packages or even worst, get my working wifi out of service. Anyone here did that before and could confirm it works ?
[11:35] <allsystemsarego> Geany is a good one
[11:35] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> nano is a good html editor as well, :)
[11:35] <Stormx2> +1 for Geany, but its not WYSIWYG
[11:35] <gaelfx1> definitely prefer nano over vim
[11:35] <christopher> emacs nxhtml mode
[11:35] <allsystemsarego> Anjuta is another good one
[11:35] <dr_willis> I like geany for editing code. :)
[11:36] <CoUrPsE|DeAd> is joe on ubuntu too?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> guys please stop, its a good way to start a flame war
[11:36] <AMDMutant> if not wysiwg i use vim
[11:37] <mclure> hi. I'm having a problem with a unresponsive firefox when downloading torrents. anyone here familiar with this behaviour?
[11:37] <gaelfx1> mclure: what kind of problem, and what program are you using for torrents?
[11:38] <mclure> gaelfx1: using deluge torrent
[11:38] <Stormx2> mclure, downloading the actual .torrent files?
[11:38] <joaopinto> mclure, is that problem specific to .torrents ?
[11:38] <CaptainMorgan> an html flame war?? :) anyways yea Web Dev has been a godsend for me in Ubuntu - Highly recommended
[11:38] <mclure> nope. but when the network activity increases, then firefox becomes unresponsive when using it. just hangs. have to forcequit
[11:39] <gaelfx1> mclure: sounds like you need to limit the bandwidth that deluge uses
[11:39] <Stormx2> gaelfx1, even with 0 bandwidth, firefox shouldn't crash
[11:39] <mclure> joaopinto: guess I should try another software. but works on my other computer. done some minor firefox tweaks
[11:39] <hischild_laptop> CaptainMorgan, I have seen those around. Please stop the discussion.
[11:40] <Stormx2> mclure, maybe run firefox from terminal. When it crashes, have a look at the output?
[11:40] <CaptainMorgan> hischild_laptop, not sure what you're referring to
[11:40] <gaelfx1> Stormx2: yeah, but I thought he said it hung, not crashed
[11:40] <joaopinto> Stormx2, it's not crashing, it's hanging, per the description
[11:40] <Stormx2> gaelfx1, the output might still be useful.
[11:40] <gaelfx1> Stormx2: true, true. I'll shut up now
[11:40] <hischild_laptop> CaptainMorgan, this is not the place to give opinions about software, this is a support channel.
[11:41] <AMDMutant> mclure: hung, you mean hung hung? black out?
[11:41] <CaptainMorgan> hischild_laptop, seen what around? and why are your targeting me? as it related to Ubuntu, it's definitely on-topic.
[11:41] <mclure> do I need anything else than just running firefox with 'firefox' from a terminal? no outputs when trying that. I'm a newbie ;-)
[11:42] <CaptainMorgan> mclure, check your path
[11:42] <restartme> heelo
[11:42] <mclure> AMDMutant: black out. unresponsive. it doesn't crash. if I stop deluge torrent, firefox wakes up
[11:42] <joaopinto> mclure, make sure your existing firefox instances are closed :P
[11:42] <restartme> hello again
[11:42] <Stormx2> hischild_laptop: [Spooky] asked for software recommendations, of course he/she will get opinions back, everyone's going to recommend their fav software
[11:42] <restartme> how to edit xorg.conf file?
[11:43] <Stormx2> restartme, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:43] <restartme> i don't have right permissions
[11:43] <hischild_laptop> CaptainMorgan, i'm not targeting anyone. Telling you don't like ubuntu is also related to Ubuntu, but still offtopic. Asking for software recommendations is not a support question, so please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic. Please stop this discussion _NOW_.
[11:43] <mclure> joaopinto: tried to restart the computer. but the same problem
[11:43] <Slart> restartme: a bit different solution.. EDITOR=gedit sudoedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:43] <Stormx2> hischild_laptop, when did he say he didn't like ubuntu?
[11:43] <joaopinto> mclure, I am referring to the way to execute firefox from the terminal to check for error messages, but I personally doubt that you will get any, since the process is hanging :P
[11:43] <hischild_laptop> Stormx2, it's an example
[11:44] <ip-> can ubuntu be installed from a usb stick (my laptops dvd drive is broken)
[11:44] <Slart> !usb | ip-
[11:44] <joaopinto> ip-, yes it can
[11:44] <rww> !usb | ip-
[11:44] <restartme> how to save it?
[11:44] <mclure> joaopinto: you're right. didn't see anything. just goes black
[11:44] <CaptainMorgan> hischild_laptop, it was stopped after my last remark - software solves problems, which concerns support, making it 100% on-topic. I'm happy to discontinue the subject.
[11:44] <ip-> thank you :)! life safers
[11:44] <restartme> what to press?
[11:44] <AMDMutant> hischild_laptop: CaptainMorgan: isnt it already stopped....
[11:44] <Stormx2> restartme, Ctrl+W, Y, Enter.
[11:44] <restartme> to save file
[11:44] <restartme> kk
[11:45] <CaptainMorgan> AMDMutant, it was certainly was
[11:45] <bakarat> for some reason when i play flash movies on my 64 bit 8.10 system, they ... stall all the time? they start playing, then just stop, i have to manually forward a bit, then it plays for a few seconds again and stops...
[11:45] <Stormx2> hischild_laptop, the conversation only continued cause you brought it up. You're as guilty as anyone else. It was already over by the time you began targeting CaptainMorgan >.<
[11:45] <hischild_laptop> !stop
[11:45] <joaopinto> bakarat, have you tried with flash10 64 bits ?
[11:46] <bakarat> joaopinto, is it in the repo? i thought it was beta?
[11:46] <AMDMutant> okay on topic now
[11:46] <Stormx2> Oh, so when we have problems with your conduct we have to stop talking, but its okay when you complain about us? >.<
[11:46] <Stormx2> bakarat: Could be an issue with something blocking your soundcard.
[11:46] <joaopinto> bakarat, I believe there is a verion on the partner repository, you will need to enable it on the software sources
[11:46] <joaopinto> it's called adobe-flash
[11:46] <CaptainMorgan> lol
[11:46] <hischild_laptop> Stormx2, take it to the ops if you think i was wrong. #ubuntu-ops for that.
[11:46] <funnydude> hiya
[11:46] <KalEl> hi, i de-installed the file searching tool "tracker" that comes at the top right bar due to some bugs. i forgot how i did that. could you please tell me how i can reinstall it?
[11:46] <bakarat> joaopinto, ah
[11:46] <Stormx2> hischild_laptop, I know the op channel. I've already been in it today
[11:47] <bakarat> Stormx2, hmm, could be, how can i check this?
[11:47] <mk123> whats the root password for when im on the liveCD?
[11:47] <funnydude> can anybody tell me where i can get a laptop from with no OS or office?
[11:47] <ip-> just so i understand, i need ubuntu on a computer to make the stick?
[11:47] <CaptainMorgan> mk123, that's a great question..
[11:47] <mk123> funnydude: rjtech.com
[11:47] <sfer21> KalEl: right click panel > add to panel
[11:47] <bakarat> funnydude, you can get a linux-based laptop from dell... ;)
[11:47] <CaptainMorgan> mk123, is there one?
[11:47] <joaopinto> mk123, there is no root password, you just use: sudo command
[11:47] <mk123> i tried leaving it blan didnt work
[11:47] <CaptainMorgan> indded
[11:47] <bakarat> funnydude, you don't pay anything for the os and there is no office on it
[11:47] <AMDMutant> none! lol
[11:47] <bakarat> funnydude, that's probably the closest you can get
[11:47] <Slart> funnydude: well.. you might want to start by narrowing it down to what country you live in?
[11:47] <mk123> su: authetication failure
[11:47] <Stormx2> bakarat, restart your computer, and open firefox first. Try playing a flash video. If you don't have the problem, it means your sound setup is a bit faulty (probably pulse's fault)
[11:47] <mk123> with no pass
[11:47] <joaopinto> mk123, sudo -i
[11:47] <bakarat> Stormx2, ah k
[11:48] <Slart> mk123: there isn't a root password
[11:48] <bakarat> Stormx2, thanks
[11:48] <joaopinto> the root account is disabled on the live cd
[11:48] <Slart> !root | mk123
[11:48] <mk123> sudo works though, not su
[11:48] <KalEl> sfer21, is it called tracker-search-tool in the aptitude program?
[11:48] <Stormx2> I'm off. Stupid grandparents.
[11:48] <d_mitry> i've had a slight mishap whilst trying to resize an ntfs partition within ubuntu using gparted. the computer experienced a hang during the process. now i can't mount the partition -- "NTFS signature is missing". is there way to recover?
[11:48] <joaopinto> !language | Stormx2
[11:48] <neowner> hi all
[11:48] <rww> joaopinto: "stupid" isn't against the channel rules :P
[11:48] <sfer21> KalEl: oh, you deleted it completely and didn't just remove it from the panel? yes, it would be called that
[11:49] <mk123> can someone help me reallocate freespace with gparted?
[11:49] <CaptainMorgan> d_mitry, I assume you sufficiently made backups?
[11:49] <KalEl> ok thanks!
[11:49] <joaopinto> rww, calling stupid to your grandparents does not match with "family friendly" ;)
[11:49] <mk123> sda1 is free space, i'm trying to reallocate it to sda2 which is right after
[11:49] <funnydude> i dont find any on the dell website, can you link me please?
[11:49] <rww> joaopinto: hah! i don't think that's what the factoid writers meant, but good interpretation :)
[11:49] <CaptainMorgan> joaopinto, that's subjective.. what if they're actually intelligent and the word was appropriate for time reasons?
[11:49] <Slart> oh.. come on.. 50% of all the text in this channel is people complaining about other people for various silly reasons... (probably 51% after I've written this)..
[11:49] <CaptainMorgan> non-intelligent
[11:49] <sfer21> mk123: just make sda2 bigger
[11:49] <gaelfx1> how can I get SCIM to work with QQ on a 64-bit system?
[11:50] <mk123> sfer21: i can't
[11:50] <mk123> sfer21: how do i make it bigegr?
[11:50] <CaptainMorgan> mk123, gparted is pretty intuitive, no?
[11:50] <Kenny> Problem: I cannot connect to my router. The Password type is WPA TKIP PSK and SSID isset to hidden. When I try to connect it always asks for the password, again and again. Also I can't connect to my Router with Windows Vista after trying to connect on Ubuntu, until i reboot the router. I use Ubuntu 8.10 and installed with wubi. Any help?
[11:50] <sfer21> mk123: right click > resize, i think?
[11:50] <funnydude> im from the UK btw
[11:50] <mk123> i can't
[11:50] <rww> funnydude: http://www.dell.com/ubuntu
[11:50] <mk123> basically i had sda1 which i deleted
[11:50] <CaptainMorgan> !wubi
[11:50] <d_mitry> CaptainMorgan: if i did, i wouldn't be asking. i took a bad risk.
[11:50] <mk123> now i have free space that i want to make sda2 into
[11:50] <CaptainMorgan> ouch
[11:50] <mk123> but i think sda2 has to be before the free space
[11:51] <rww> funnydude: http://www.dell.co.uk/ubuntu might work better if you're in the UK
[11:51] <joaopinto> mk123, you should be able to move sda2
[11:51] <AMDMutant> mk123: dont mount sda1 anda sda2
[11:52] <jimius> happy birthday
[11:52] <mk123> AMDMutant: i did umount -a
[11:52] <funnydude> what laptop should i go for, im no good with spec
[11:52] <joaopinto> !ot | jimius
[11:52] <jimius> :/
[11:52] <rww> funnydude: ##hardware for hardware help / computer selection help :)
[11:52] <mk123> can i do copy/paste?
[11:52] <mk123> i did copy of sda2 into sda1
[11:52] <funnydude> ##hardware
[11:52] <funnydude> ##hardware
[11:53] <funnydude> not working
[11:53] <FloodBot1> funnydude: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:53] <mk123> will things still wowrk?
[11:53] <bazhang> funnydude, /join
[11:53] <Slart> mk123: find one you can afford that looks cool, then go to a store and ask if you can try a live cd in their demo-machine..
[11:53] <joaopinto> function1, type /join ##hardware
[11:53] <rww> funnydude: you join IRC channels with, e.g. /join ##hardware
[11:53] <sfer21> funnydude: /join ##hardware
[11:53] <mk123> Slart what?
[11:53] <CaptainMorgan> that's funny
[11:53] <Slart> mk123: bah.. nevermind.. wrong nick.. sorry
[11:53] <Slart> funnydude: find one you can afford that looks cool, then go to a store and ask if you can try a live cd in their demo-machine..
[11:54] <mk123> meow
[11:54] <bazhang> mk123, ??
[11:54] <AMDMutant> mk123: right click no resize/move ?
[11:55] <AMDMutant> mk123: is it grayed?
[11:55] <mk123> AMDMutant: i'm copy sda2 into sda1 (this is now called sda5)
[11:55] <d_mitry> CaptainMorgan: the good thing is that the data isn't THAT important. also, it may be of help to say that testdisk says that the partition has more heads/cylinders than an ntfs partition. maybe testdisk would help, but it hangs the machine soon enough after asking it to analyse the structure of the disk.
[11:55] <mk123> then im going to delete sda2
[11:55] <mk123> and resize sda5
[11:55] <asp> Hey! trying to mount an audio cd, i get wrong filesystem, bad flag or bad superblock errors on the device
[11:55] <dr_willis> asp,  one normally does NOT mount audio cds
[11:56] <AMDMutant> mk123: and sooo oonn...
[11:56] <asp> dr_willis, well.. id dosn't automount for some reason
[11:56] <asp> it*
[11:57] <dr_willis> asp,   you dont mount them automatically either.. You could start a player to play them automatically.. but the cd does not get mounted like normal data cd/dvds do
[11:57] <dr_willis> You aren't supposed to mount audio CDs, as audio playback and CD ripping accesses the media directly.
[11:57] <guntbert> asp: audio CDs don't have a file system, so ^-^
[11:57] <dr_willis> There are some tools/addons/kioslaves and so forth for file managers that can make it appear as if you are accessing them.. but its  a bit of a 'trick'
[11:58] <dr_willis> !info cdfs
[11:58] <asp> guntbert, dr_willis ok
[11:58] <mk123> if i copy a partition 'sda2' copy into an empty 'sda1' , will the new partition 'sda5' work?
[11:58] <musictoto> asp: if you want to play or rip the audio cd open program 'sound juicer'
[11:59] <asp> musictoto, ok
[11:59] <njdube> I saved a custom theme in gnome.  Where do I find the file?  I'd like to share it with others but I can't find it.
[11:59] <musictoto> asp: more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/musicvideophotos/C/music-audiocds.html
[12:00] <asp> musictoto, ok thanks
[12:00] <mk123> if i copy a partition 'sda2' copy into an empty 'sda1' , will the new partition 'sda5' work?
[12:02] <dr_willis> mk123,  clarify what you mean by 'work'  what does sda5 have to do with sda1 and sda2 at all?
[12:03] <mk123> sda1 was ext2 but i deleted it
[12:03] <mk123> i copy sda2 into the space of sda1
[12:03] <mk123> this new partition is called 'sda5'
[12:03] <mk123> is it an exact clone like norton ghost?
[12:03] <mk123> or do i have to rebuild some packages?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> fDCmsxmC
[12:03] <dr_willis> You made a new Logical instide an extended partition then.   the data should be the same..but its not a primary partition.
[12:03] <gnomefreak> damn keyboard :(
[12:04] <mk123> no ...
[12:04] <mk123> i deleted sda1
[12:04] <mk123> it was empty space
[12:04] <mk123> then i copy/paste sda2 into the empty space
[12:04] <mk123> and it recreates itself as primary
[12:04] <mk123> with all the same properties
[12:04] <mk123> but will i have to rebuild things?
[12:04] <liye> hello, i'm not sure if I can ask a awk script problem here? I want to process two files and find a pattern appears in one file in another file as well
[12:04] <dr_willis> sda5 IS  the name used for a 'logical partition, inside an extended partition'       sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4 would be the names for 'primary' partitions. One or more primaries can be a extended. the first logical  would be sda5
[12:05] <mk123> maybe the software will be looking for sda2 but since its sda5 there may be conflict?
[12:05] <dr_willis> its possible it may confuse some things.. or not.. depending on what the data is and whats accessing it..
[12:05] <Gnea> liye: check out #awk
[12:06] <liye> Gnea, thank you!
[12:06] <asp> hi again. i was trying to mount the cdrom since when accessing it from the desktop, it said cannot change to folder because it is not local
[12:06] <ozgur> hi how do I install .ssh files?
[12:07] <dr_willis> ozgur,  you sure you diont mean .sh files?
[12:07] <Gnea> ozgur: what .ssh files?
[12:07] <ozgur> Gnea: .sh files
[12:07] <mk123> sh name.sh
[12:07] <Gnea> ozgur: ah, depends on the .sh file, i suppose
[12:07] <dr_willis> ozgur,  you 'run' sh files.. what is it you are trying to run/install?
[12:07] <mk123> make sure bash is symlinked to sh first
[12:07] <Gnea> ozgur: is it containing another program or is it a program itself?
[12:07] <mk123> ln -s /bin/bash /bin/sh
[12:08] <dr_willis> mk123,  thats NOT a good idea
[12:08] <mk123> why not?
[12:08] <dr_willis> if you want to make bash the default system shell do it the RIGHT way
[12:08] <asp> dr_willis, musictoto.. any ideas?
[12:08] <dr_willis> mk123,  ive not had to ever do that .. 'bash foo.sh' works just fine. IF needed
[12:08] <ozgur> dr_willing: it was j2me.. sh j2me.sh did it..
[12:08] <mk123> whats the proper way?
[12:08] <ozgur> mk123: thanks..
[12:08] <dr_willis> dpkg-reconfigure sh   i belive mk123
[12:08] <dr_willis> !dash
[12:09] <mk123> doesnt that do the exact same thing?
[12:09] <dr_willis> Or fix the scripts.
[12:09] <dr_willis> mk123,  you coudl go about deleting things at random also.. OR you could use the package manager to properly Uninstall things.. which is better?
[12:09] <KalEl> is there any theme called "clear" for intrepid ibex?
[12:09] <dr_willis> Use the tools provided when they do the task you need to do.
[12:09] <mk123> good point dr_willis
[12:09] <mk123> are you actually a doctor?
[12:09] <zeeshan> i have a video card that has two dvi outputs.. i have 3 screens, two lcd, 1 crt. i want to use the crt for gaming. i want to replicate one of the dvi signals on the monitor from a lcd. i was thinking of getting a dvi splitter cable, however the problem is, it'll try to run both screens at teh same resolution.. what should i do?
[12:09] <zeeshan> dont know where else to ask :)
[12:09] <ozgur> what's the command to log in as root?
[12:10] <god_julius> ozgur: sudo su
[12:10] <dr_willis> mk123,  No. :) i just recall the HUGE flamefest when dash got used as 'sh' ages ago.
[12:10] <dr_willis> DONT use sudo su either.. :)
[12:10] <dr_willis>  use 'sudo -s' or 'sudo -i
[12:10] <mk123> because you are coherent and i can understand you very well - thats why i asked
[12:10] <mk123> do you have a phd?
[12:10] <god_julius> dr_willis: what is the difference?
[12:10] <Kenny> I uninstalled Ubuntu which was installed by Wubi, but the Boot Loader is still there, how can i remove it now?
[12:11] <dr_willis> god_julius,   one is REDUNDANT and may not set up all the settings right...  http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[12:11] <mk123> Kenny: you have to replace it with something else - rewrite the MBR
[12:11] <dr_willis> bad 'habbits' vs  better practices :)
[12:11] <god_julius> dr_willis: ok thanks :)
[12:11] <Kenny> mk123: how?
[12:11] <mk123> using another boot loader or windows
[12:12] <dr_willis> zeeshan,  you must have a very large desk.     I cant recall ever seeing a CRT that used DVI.
[12:12] <KalEl> does intrepid ibex look like this: http://fc80.deviantart.com/fs30/f/2008/126/7/a/Clear___Intrepid_Ibex_by_salane89.jpg
[12:13] <Kenny> mk123: with the windows vista cd?
[12:13] <mk123> wow thats beautiful
[12:13] <mk123> Kenny: yes
[12:13] <KalEl> mine doesn't... is it because i updated instead of downloading and installing fresh?
[12:13] <mk123> fixmbr i think is the command - but it really messed things up when i ran it once
[12:13] <zeeshan> dr_willis the crt isnt hooked up, only the two lcd are
[12:14] <zeeshan> im trying to get the crt to work :)
[12:14] <zeeshan> maybe i can do a s-video -> vga
[12:14] <mk123> KalEl: i think those are special effects you can turn on, i.e compiz
[12:14] <dr_willis> zeeshan,  check the crt - You sure it has a dvi conector?     If you start doing too much with the signals you will get bad  video.  But its your games. :)
[12:15] <Slart> KalEl: hmm. it's not the default install.. but I guess you could customize it to look something like that if you wanted to
[12:15] <zeeshan> dr_willis when did i ever say the crt had a dvi connector?
[12:15] <zeeshan> :(
[12:15] <KalEl> i like the top bar and the Applications drop box, mine are just cream colored
[12:16] <KalEl> and non-transparent
[12:16] <dr_willis> zeeshan,  so you wish to Split a DVI signal convert one half to vga?
[12:16] <Slart> KalEl: could be KDE.. I can't get my gnome-panels to look like that
[12:16] <mk123> why is my blocksize 16384? where does this number come from?
[12:16] <Kenny> thats it, i never gonna use linux anymore x/
[12:16] <KalEl> ok thanks
[12:16] <zeeshan> dr_willis yes
[12:16] <zeeshan> and having control over what resolution it sees
[12:16] <mk123> Kenny: yes you will