[00:00] <PrototypeX29A> t0rc: i should have known better, not being a mouse
[00:00] <sebsebseb> switch10_: maybe some how I could get working, but didn't know how
[00:00] <dragon> djustice: it's upstart - I'm unable to see how to tell it to start one thing before the other.
[00:00] <djustice> dragon: indeed. my point stands. i should be able to killall python whenever i want. just bc its fun to do.
[00:00] <switch10_> sebsebseb: my wireless card was actually detected with 9.10!!  first time ever.  and I think it looks a lot cleaner..
[00:00] <dragon> djustice: you should be able to do `killall init` as well. It's fun.
[00:01] <soopos> What is the cause of the problem in the given Makefile at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/157984/ ?
[00:01] <switch10_> sebsebseb: i think 9.10 is an improvement over 8.10 for sure.  9.04 not so sure though
[00:02] <mathboy2600> i need help getting lirc to work with an XBOX dvd remote dongle
[00:03] <sebsebseb> switch10_: new theme is alright yeah, but I don't like the boot up,  I diddn't need add/remove to be replaced by the software centre,  I don't want to use Ubuntu One etc.  I already have Ext4 on the other computer in 9.04 etc.   so yep no proper advantages for upgrading that one to 9.10.   Anyway this is off topic now.  Oh and I am looking forward to 10.04 and am virtual machine testing it.  I am using another distro on this computer insted of
[00:03] <sebsebseb> Karmic, Mandriva One 2010.
[00:03] <gdiz> hey everyone.  I am trying to create a remote for hulu desktop.  I was trying to use xsendkeys to send information via ssh to the ubuntu box.  However, I hit this error when using xsendkeys over ssh to huludesktop "cannot connect to display".  I tried to specify a display using Display=:0 without luck.  Is there a better way of doing this or something I am missing?
[00:03] <bazhang> !ot
[00:03] <sebsebseb> bazhang: yep as I just put
[00:03] <mathboy2600> i need help getting lirc to work with an XBOX dvd remote dongle
[00:04] <dragon> !repeat | mathboy2600
[00:04] <sebsebseb> bazhang: sometimes it's to easy, to get in to, off topic in here
[00:05] <AfroMan> PrototypeX29A, i have just 4gb ram
[00:06] <switch10_> bazhang: especially when nothing is happening...
[00:06] <bazhang> switch10_, does not matter; this is support only
[00:07] <jvasile> gdiz, Take a look at rkm: https://edge.launchpad.net/rkm
[00:07] <piyo> nethack-lisp for hardy seems to be missing some help files, where can i get help?
[00:07] <PrototypeX29A> AfroMan: i am not sure how much ram linux can handle in 32-bit exactly
[00:07] <dragon> piyo: aptitude reinstall nethack-lisp
[00:07] <PrototypeX29A> with other OS it is problematic to use 4 GB in 32-bit
[00:08] <bastidrazor> PrototypeX29A: AfroMan 3.2GB or 32bit
[00:08] <bastidrazor> for
[00:08] <jvasile> I am attempting to enable multicast in pulseaudio, but the option to enable multicast sender is greyed out in the device chooser.  How can I enable it? Thanks.
[00:08] <dragon> PrototypeX29A: An OS can handle about 3GiB without PAE, and a lot more with PAE.
[00:09] <dragon> !pae
[00:10] <PrototypeX29A> AfroMan: so i guess, 64-bit it is
[00:10] <piyo> nethack: emacs still says "Cannot find file /usr/lib/games/nethack/help"
[00:10] <n0dl> when using ssh-agent do you always have to add keys whenever you close the agent?
[00:10] <Kingsy102> can someone tell me what program I can use to make a USB bootable version of ubuntu 9.10 ?
[00:11] <Kingsy102> I am sure I had a nice peice of sortware that did it in windows
[00:11] <digitalaxis> Anyone here able to help with compiz? i have rotate cube enabled, and when i do ctrl+alt+directional(or drag) all it does is bring up the 4 windows in the middle of the screen, doesnt go to a cube
[00:11] <bazhang> Kingsy102, unetbootin
[00:11] <Kingsy102> ahhhh thats it
[00:11] <AfroMan> PrototypeX29A, when I tried 64 with windows I had troubles with drivers, is it the same with linux?
[00:11] <ird> If I have a bunch of new sources in sources.list, and then remove them. What happens to the packages from those repos?
[00:11] <bastidrazor> digitalaxis: there is a #compiz channel if you don't find help here.
[00:11] <piyo> nethack: I did install nethack-common nethack-console nethack-el nethack-lisp
[00:11] <PrototypeX29A> AfroMan: sorry, i dont know :)
[00:11] <PrototypeX29A> never tried it
[00:11] <digitalaxis> Oh thankyou bastidrazor
[00:12] <Kingsy102> bazhang - is a 1 GB stick ok for ubuntu 9.10 ?
[00:12] <PrototypeX29A> I am new to this ubuntu-thing too
[00:12] <bastidrazor> digitalaxis: good luck
[00:12] <mathboy2600> ird, they stay installed
[00:12] <PrototypeX29A> AfroMan: but given that the drivers should be open source, they should be available for both versions alike
[00:12] <bazhang> Kingsy102, never tried it, could be
[00:12] <ird> mathboy2600: Is there a way to remove them specifically if I don't know what they are?
[00:12] <AfroMan> PrototypeX29A, when I download ubuntu 64, it says ubuntu amd64, should I be worried as I have intel core 2 duo?
[00:13] <mathboy2600> ird, i think so... let me check
[00:13] <max7543543> i got a error message :
[00:13] <max7543543> 'E:Ligne 1 mal formée dans la liste de sources /etc/apt/sources.list.d/launchpad_vlc.list (distribution), E:La liste des sources ne peut être lue.'
[00:13] <max7543543> what i have to do?
[00:13] <bazhang> Kingsy102, the unetbootin homepage should have some info though
[00:13] <Autie> AfroMan: no
[00:13] <Kingsy102> bazhang - ok cool, and just curious, if I am installing ubuntu on my eee-pc do I need to do anything special or will it just *work* ?
[00:13] <bastidrazor> AfroMan: no, amd64 will work on any 64bit (non apple) box
[00:13] <PrototypeX29A> AfroMan: i will give the other ubuntu-heads a chance to respond to that question :)
[00:13] <CummyFarts> http://tc.easythumbhost.com/240x180/97/971447-0.jpg
[00:13] <Kingsy102> bazhang - sorry I think I had lag there, did you see my msg above?
[00:13] <n0pe> hi, does ubuntu come with anything that can monitor an LSI SAS Megaraid adapter?  or just dump the array info to stdout?
[00:13] <ird> mathboy2600:  ok thanks.
[00:14] <AfroMan> one last thing, long ago linux had issues with writting and reading on ntfs partition, I have an extra partition that has all my backup, should I be worried? or is that conflict over?
[00:15] <n0dl> also i've noticed when i use sshagent startx it no longer prompts for a password to use sudo. has anyone else experienced this?
[00:15] <bazhang> AfroMan, its not an issue any more
[00:15] <mathboy2600> ird, ok if you open synapitic, on the bottom left there are the filters,
[00:15] <bazhang> Kingsy102, yes I did, which version of the eeepc
[00:16] <gdiz> jvasile, thanks, is there possibly a version of this for os x or something that would work with it?  I am trying to access the remote ubuntu box from my macbook pr
[00:16] <mathboy2600> ird, clickk the one that says origin
[00:16] <HRH_H_Crab> hi, i am trying to install 9.10 on a machine with 2 sata drives and an ata drive. i want to use the ata drive for grub. i have tried the normal install, install from the live environment, and the text install, either way the outcome is the same: grub error 15
[00:16] <HRH_H_Crab> anyone able to give me some advice?
[00:16] <HRH_H_Crab> i found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/159333
[00:17] <HRH_H_Crab> but its not very helpful.
[00:17] <dragon> ubottu: PAE is <reply>Physical Address Extension (PAE) enables the use of more than 3.2GiB of physical memory in 32-bit systems. For more info, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE
[00:18] <AfroMan> thx for the help
[00:18] <ziesemer> Can anyone please help me get a persistent Live USB Ubuntu install working? "(initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/sdal on /cow failed: Device or resource busy"
[00:18] <dragon> n0dl: sudo password is handled by /etc/sudoers config file
[00:18] <n0dl> dragon: yeah i know that
[00:18] <Alan502> I've got a pretty damaged dvd, but i don't want to re-download it again. Is it possible to create an iso ignoring bad parts? that way i could then torrent bad parts....
[00:19] <n0dl> but im talking about if you pass startx as an argument to sshagent
[00:19] <bazhang> Alan502, no
[00:19] <_BLACK_MAN_> Hello
[00:19] <_BLACK_MAN_> black man here
[00:19] <dragon> n0dl: maybe the timeout_timestamp is too high or -1. I'm not sure if sshagent has control over sudo - it shouldn't.
[00:19] <Alan502> bazhang, thanks
[00:19] <_BLACK_MAN_> n e chats?
[00:19] <dragon> !troll > _BLACK_MAN_
[00:19] <ird> mathboy2600: thanks a lot
[00:19] <mathboy2600> ird, no prob
[00:20] <_BLACK_MAN_> oh okay
[00:20] <_BLACK_MAN_> black man here
[00:20] <_BLACK_MAN_> where r the chats
[00:20] <_BLACK_MAN_> !troll > Italian_Plumber1
[00:20] <_BLACK_MAN_> !troll > Italian_Plumber1
[00:20] <maco2> _BLACK_MAN_: this is the a support chat
[00:20] <Alan502> !ops
[00:20] <_BLACK_MAN_> !troll maco2
[00:21] <n0dl> dragon: ah yeah you were right about the timeout
[00:21] <n0dl> thanks
[00:22] <ziesemer> Can anyone please help me with casper?  (initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/sdal on /cow failed: Device or resource busy
[00:23] <ziesemer> mz2))1vml
[00:27] <waldir> hello everyone... I am unable to connect to sites using my browser but other apps such as transmission are working correctly... can someone help me troubleshoot this?
[00:27] <burzki> !usb
[00:28] <ziesemer> burzki, is that in response to me?  Already read both of those...
[00:28] <switch10_> waldir: u using firefox?
[00:28] <ziesemer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1317317
[00:29] <waldir> switch10_: I tried firefox and chrome
[00:29] <waldir> none of them works
[00:29] <Linera> So can anyone help me tweak Ubuntu for performance yet?
[00:30] <ird> Does anyone know any quick terminal trick to changing all the files of one type in a directory to another?
[00:30] <ird> IE .mp4 to .avi
[00:30] <matts45acp> can some tell m e how to install a .tar in the terminal.  its a driver
[00:30] <switch10_> Linera: seriously try xubuntu.  it is the best option.  it's still ubuntu, just optimized for older hardware
[00:30] <bazhang> Linera, have you tried either of the *2* suggestions made to you yet?
[00:30] <Linera> I'm on ubuntu. How many times do i have to say it.
[00:31] <bazhang> Linera, yes. we know.
[00:31] <ird> matts45acp: Pretty sure you need to tar -jxvf file.tar.gz
[00:31] <Zeppelin> Hi, I downloaded the Deluge torrent client, but when I download a torrent from Firefox, it doesn't give me the option to open it with Deluge, only the option to open with Transmission
[00:31] <Zeppelin> How do I fix that
[00:31] <ird> But after that I'm pretty unsure
[00:31] <Linera> told me what. I've been told 1000s of things
[00:31] <bazhang> Linera, that is simply not true.
[00:31] <bastid_raZor> Zeppelin: choose other then type deluge .. after that you will have it as an option
[00:31] <ird> Zeppelin: Had a problem similar to that once.. I just gave up and opened them manually :p
[00:32] <bazhang> Linera, TWO options were given, not thousands.
[00:32] <Linera> and all I asked what how do i tweak ubuntu for perforance, like what things to turn on/off and stuff like that
[00:32] <lastent> Hi, do you know about a app to record audio and video whit the webcam?
[00:33] <PrototypeX29A> lastent: cheese will do for video
[00:33] <waldir> switch10_: do you have any ideas? :( I'm at a loss here..
[00:33] <PrototypeX29A> havent tried for audio
[00:34] <Jones_Hugo> Hi there
[00:34] <Jones_Hugo> any1 around?
[00:34] <lastent> PrototypeX29A, thanks but I do need to record both
[00:34] <Jones_Hugo> I've been trying to load Hildon-Desktop on Karmic without success.... any1 got it done already???
[00:34] <Linera> well, I guess that is a no. :(
[00:35] <symetrik> lastent: iCamShare?
[00:35] <keitoface> how can I find out which device is providing my bluetooth?
[00:35] <bazhang> Linera, have you tried actually using the tweaks suggested?
[00:35] <Linera> like what, reinstall ubuntu?
[00:35] <Zeppelin> bastid_raZor, where is Deluge located?
[00:35] <Linera> how will that help
[00:35] <bazhang> Linera, that was never suggested.
[00:35] <burzki> ziesemer, read all that.  i can't help other than to say my opinion is to leave well enough alone.  what was wrong with it the way it was?
[00:36] <Linera> i've see it many times said to me
[00:36] <Jones_Hugo> keitoface try looking into dmesg
[00:36] <Linera> I've been given no one answer
[00:36] <bazhang> Linera, install lubuntu-desktop and choose it from the current install you have
[00:36] <burzki> Linera, can you add ram?
[00:36] <bazhang> Linera, two answers in total.
[00:36] <Linera> its a laptop so no
[00:37] <keitoface> Jones_Hugo: thanks; I've checked dmesg, but it only shows that it loaded btusb, but not which device is using it
[00:37] <Linera> I've already installed ubuntu
[00:37] <bazhang> Linera, it is not a reinstall.
[00:37] <burzki> Linera, say to whom?
[00:37] <Linera> why would I install it again
[00:37] <bazhang> Linera, you are not.
[00:37] <Linera> burzki
[00:38] <Linera> u just said to install ubuntu
[00:38] <bazhang> Linera, its a different Desktop Environment. NOT  a reinstall.
[00:38] <burzki> Linera, you can add ram in a laptop
[00:38] <i_is_broke> Linera, lubuntu is nto a reinstall its an added desktop that does not require as much resources, i run it myself
[00:38] <keitoface> Jones_Hugo: Ah, I just looked in lsusb again and I found it. Thanks!
[00:38] <burzki> Linera, what is the size of your swap?
[00:38] <Linera> speak to me like any brand new linux user
[00:38] <bazhang> Linera, we are.
[00:39] <Linera> I know nothing, nada, zip about linux
[00:39]  * ctmjr hands bazhang a cookie
[00:39] <burzki> Linera, say you are a brand new ubuntu user ..
[00:39] <bazhang> Linera, you need to pay closer attention and follow the suggestions given.
[00:39] <Linera> and you expect me to know what a swap is?
[00:39] <i_is_broke> Linera, did you install ubuntu on your computer?
[00:40] <Linera> no
[00:40] <i_is_broke> ok,
[00:40] <Linera> someone did it for me
[00:40] <bazhang> Linera, you dont have Ubuntu installed?
[00:40] <Jones_Hugo> live user i guess
[00:40] <Linera> its installed on this laptop
[00:40] <burzki> Linera, what is the Actual problem(s) you are having??
[00:41] <Linera> I'm new to linux. I'm running linux Ubuntu 9.10 on a laptop with low ram. How can I tweak the os to run on the bare basics?
[00:41] <switch10_> waldir:  any ideas on what? sorry
[00:41] <Linera> ^that
[00:41] <Jones_Hugo> Linera did you try netbook remix yet?
[00:42] <Linera> again, I know nada about linux so i wouldn't have any clue of what netbook remix is
[00:42] <burzki> Linera, try 8.04.  or add ram
[00:42] <mrxor> does "acpi -t" show the correct temperature of the cpu?
[00:42] <D3RGPS31> I can hear the start sound, and beeps from pidgin; but i can't hear audio from firefox/media players; what do i do
[00:42] <mrxor> because I keep hearing about lm-sensors
[00:42] <g0tcha> hey guysy, is it possible to make all the connection going out from ubuntu while using ssh tunneling? instead of adding the info to firefox on its own, xchat on its own and so on?
[00:43] <Jones_Hugo> Under Ubuntu download section, there is a "Netbook remix" version.... Check it out... Try Youtube also to view user interface
[00:43] <switch10_> Linera: basically you would have a hard time replacing environments, windows managers, programs, etc.  we are trying to help by telling you it would be much much easier to just reinstall a different distro like xubuntu
[00:43] <Zargle> hey... it says use "broken" something is wrong
[00:43] <Zargle> im trying to upgrade to the newest
[00:43] <Linera> how hard is it to tell what someone wants to know?
[00:43] <bastid_raZor> Zeppelin: in a terminal type: which deluge
[00:43] <Jones_Hugo> If you´re using a crappy old laptop, I think you should consider using TinyCoreLinux instead of Ubuntu.... Ubuntu is heavy lol
[00:43] <Zargle> Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Release amd64 (20091027)/dists/karmic/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[00:44] <lee> Linera: incidentally, just because it's a laptop doesn't mean that you can't add RAM, it might be worth using an online memory checker tool (I believe crucial.com has one) to see if you can upgrade your model
[00:44] <Zeppelin> /usr/bin/deluge
[00:44] <Zeppelin> :)
[00:44] <Linera> I have no way to add ram
[00:44] <Jamed> mrxor: it does usually, but sometimes i have buggy outputs like "70 degree C"
[00:44] <burzki> Linera, it just doesn't work that way.  sorry.  best way to upgrade hardware or find a lighter distro
[00:45] <mrxor> Jamed: ok. Mine is around 40-43 so maybe it's correct. and now I came from outside and it's minus -5 or -8 or something and it said 31 so
[00:45] <Linera> or tell me what i want to know.
[00:45] <burzki> linera has been here for hours asking the same circle question == troll
[00:45] <Jamed> mrxor: sounds correct
[00:45] <Zeppelin> Google Earth on Ubuntu = Possible?
[00:45] <Zargle> E: Failed to mount the cdrom.
[00:45] <Zargle> any ideas
[00:45] <switch10_> Zeppelin: yes!!
[00:45] <Darkwell> i think i need a liveCD with kernel at least 2.6.28 (which is prerequisite for XTS) and nee dluks to
[00:45] <Zeppelin> howww!!!
[00:45] <Jones_Hugo> Zeppelin indeed... wine !!
[00:45] <switch10_> Zeppelin: easy!!!
[00:45] <Linera> i asked one question. yet no answer for said question
[00:45] <sebsebseb> !new | Linera
[00:45] <Zeppelin> o
[00:45] <Zeppelin> wine
[00:46] <Billiard> Linera: what is your question?
[00:46] <bazhang> !googleearth | Zeppelin
[00:46] <switch10_> Zeppelin: runs without wine....
[00:46] <Linera> I'm new to linux. I'm running linux Ubuntu 9.10 on a laptop with low ram. How can I tweak the os to run on the bare basics?
[00:46] <Zargle> Can anyone PLEASE help me
[00:46] <Zeppelin> oh
[00:46] <Zeppelin> Jones_Hugo, sdfu man
[00:46] <ctmjr> Linera: you have been helped by some of the most knowledgeable users in this room if you do not heed their advice you should not be using linux
[00:46] <Zeppelin> getting my hopes down
[00:46] <jvasile> gdiz, No, no mac version.  Sorry.  It's got a lot of linux-specific stuff in there (X-server stuff)
[00:46] <Jones_Hugo> hahahahahahah
[00:46] <Billiard> Linera: disable the entire gui, use the command line
[00:46] <rob0917> Zeppelin try medibuntu repositories
[00:46] <Zargle> yal assholes
[00:46] <Jones_Hugo> tought you tried that already and got trouble
[00:46] <jvasile> I am attempting to enable multicast in pulseaudio, but the option to enable multicast sender is greyed out in the device chooser.  How can I enable it? Thanks.
[00:46] <Linera> so basicly making it unusable
[00:46] <burzki> Zeppelin, there are some packages in the software center/ synaptic
[00:47] <Jones_Hugo> Zeppelin you stfu !! rtfm !!
[00:47] <Billiard> Linera: that is the "bare basics"
[00:47] <sebsebseb> !rtfm |  Jones_Hugo
[00:47] <bazhang> Jones_Hugo, stop that
[00:47] <switch10_> Linera: OK replace the window manager, Programs, and desktop environment to lighter ones.  google that.  or just reinstall using xubuntu.  for the last time...
[00:47] <lee> yeah, installing xubuntu would seem like the easiest thing to do
[00:47] <andrew__> atgriffin
[00:48] <bazhang> either that or lxde
[00:48] <Linera> why would i install the same os thats already on the system?
[00:48] <lee> or is there a tasksel for xubuntu?
[00:48] <sebsebseb> Linera: How much RAM do you have?
[00:48] <rob0917> I,ve only been able to run it using medibuntu repositories-zepplin
[00:48] <Linera> it would do no good
[00:48] <Billiard> Linera: because we told you to
[00:48] <bazhang> lee, xubuntu-desktop
[00:48] <Darkwell> when will xtermubuntucome =)
[00:48] <switch10_> Linera: it is not the same..
[00:48] <sebsebseb> Linera: if you install Xubuntu or Lubuntu inside your Ubuntu install, your not installing the same OS again
[00:48] <Linera> seb, i dunno since i don't have dxdiag so i can see that info
[00:48] <sebsebseb> Linera: what's that?
[00:49] <lee> Linera: because xubuntu is optimised for low end systems, whereas the full version expects some reasonable power and a shiny graphics card
[00:49] <Linera> directx diag
[00:49] <bsmith093> afaik that is a windows tool
[00:49] <Billiard> Linera: linux doesnt have directx
[00:49] <sebsebseb> Linera: not sure what that is, but for a Linux distro their are commands for finding out such info as how much RAM you have
[00:49] <Linera> its used on windows to see things like os, ram, video card, etc
[00:49] <switch10_> Linera: sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[00:50] <g0tcha> is there a way to make ubuntu automaticly uses ssh tunneling for everything?
[00:50] <Linera> no longer able to use it so i can't see that info anymore
[00:50] <sebsebseb> Linera: yes you can
[00:50] <sebsebseb> Linera: ,but you have to use something else to find out the info
[00:50] <Linera> only way i would be able to is install windows instead of linux
[00:50] <sebsebseb> Linera: unless your program works in Wine hmm
[00:50] <Billiard> Linera: do you honestly think there is no way to see how much ram you have in linux?
[00:50] <PrototypeX29A> these ubuntu derivates, are they completely different, or just different flavors of the same operating system>
[00:50] <vvor> g0tcha: openvpn
[00:50] <PrototypeX29A> like kubuntu, xubuntu etc.
[00:50] <bsmith093> linera open a terminal goto the applicatins menu
[00:51] <Linera> dxdiag is part of directx and only on windows
[00:51] <lee> Linera: if you have a new laptop with nothing on it you want to keep, and you're new to linux, your best bet by far is to download xubuntu and install from that, as switch10_ said
[00:51] <bsmith093> goto accesories click terminal
[00:51] <Darkwell> df -h
[00:51] <Darkwell> sorry
[00:51] <Darkwell> free -m
[00:51] <Darkwell> check there
[00:51] <bazhang> lee, that is not necessary; xubuntu-desktop will do it
[00:51] <burzki> Linera, on your top bar, click 'Application' then accessories, then terminal .. do it
[00:51] <sebsebseb> Linera: that is also possible depending on your computer, installing WIndows inside Ubuntu.  However by the sounds of it a standard Ubuntu install is being slow.  If that's the case a Windows virtual machine might not even work well or at all.
[00:51] <g0tcha> vvor, how can i configure openvpn to use ssh tunneling?
[00:51] <Darkwell> or use top and press m
[00:51] <lee> bazhang: yeah, but it'll leave a bunch of crap behind, surely?
[00:51] <edbian> I'm trying to start clisp via the cli and feed it a txt file full of lisp function definitions.  How do you do that?
[00:51] <Darkwell> also check at top at memoru usage
[00:52] <xbmc> hi I want to upgrade from jaunty to karmic, how can I do that using the terminal?
[00:52] <bazhang> lee, then he/she can remove most of gnome
[00:52] <bsmith093> xmbc
[00:52] <sebsebseb> xbmc: if you upgrade from jauntey to karmic it might go worng
[00:52] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | xbmc
[00:52] <bsmith093> sudo aptget dist-upgrade
[00:52] <burzki> Linera, got it?
[00:52] <bazhang> bsmith093, that wont do it
[00:52] <bsmith093> oh rioght apt-get
[00:52] <vvor> g0tcha: if you need more then one tunnel for more then one app conseder openvpn not ssh
[00:53] <bsmith093> bazhang why not
[00:53] <bazhang> bsmith093, the upgrade instructions cover it dist-upgrade does not do it
[00:53] <lee> bazhang: I could, you could, but a new linux user couldn't, without help =)
[00:53] <sebsebseb> Linera: Ubuntu is not Windows, meaning things are done differnetly, but some things are rather similar
[00:53] <digitalaxis> Hey, i enabled rotate cube but when i press ctrl+alt+left directional it doesnt zoom out, just switches windows like normal
[00:53] <bsmith093> ok then my bad
[00:53] <bazhang> lee, its actually well documented on psychocats website
[00:53] <g0tcha> vvor, is it as secure as ssh tunneling?
[00:54] <burzki> Linera, got it?  tell me when you have done it
[00:54] <temoto> Hello. Can i speak with any git-based packet maintainer?
[00:54] <xbmc> so what would be the way to do it?
[00:54] <Linera> I'm lost
[00:54] <bazhang> xbmc, have you read the link above?
[00:54] <bsmith093> update manager
[00:54] <xbmc> I cant there is no gui on this machine
[00:54] <digitalaxis> Can no one help me with compiz?
[00:55] <sebsebseb> xbmc: your on the server version?
[00:55] <Billiard> digitalaxis: ctrl+alt + mouse drag ?
[00:55] <xbmc> sudo update-manager -T?
[00:55] <i_is_broke> xbmc, sudo update-manager -d
[00:55] <digitalaxis> That doesnt work either billiard
[00:55] <ctmjr> digitalaxis: try in #compiz might find more compiz users there
[00:55] <xbmc> I am using the xbmc build from terminal
[00:55] <xbmc> irssi
[00:55] <xbmc> hez thanks for the info
[00:56] <Darkwell> compiz = UI bloat
[00:56] <xbmc> exit
[00:56] <Darkwell> it only increases the task load index
[00:56] <Darkwell> so it means bloat fpor eyes worthles for work
[00:56] <temoto> Darkwell: tell it to those making blinking cursors.
[00:56] <PrototypeX29A> some people don't like work
[00:56] <PrototypeX29A> so it is perfect :)
[00:56] <Linera|Away> thx for not answering my question. so I'll go afk until someone can help me
[00:57] <sebsebseb> Linera|Away: hmm
[00:57] <Darkwell> temoto, they have nothing better to fill their lifetime with
[00:57] <digitalaxis> Darkwell: 1: This is a support channel, not a "im a cool kid" channel, 2: If it puts a load on your machine, stop buying your shit at walmart
[00:57] <sebsebseb> Linera|Away: loads of people tried to help you
[00:57] <PrototypeX29A> Linera|Away: you are welcome
[00:57] <sebsebseb> Linera|Away: quite a lot of people
[00:57] <Darkwell> its time to take real control of actual efficient algorithms and make sane UI
[00:57] <winstonw> hey i can't switch to a virtual terminal, i get ";7P" when I type Ctrl+Alt+F1 in a gnome-terminal
[00:57] <bsmith093> Linera i can probaably help
[00:57] <digitalaxis> Darkwell: Again, this is a SUPPORT channel
[00:57] <bsmith093> linera i can probably help
[00:57] <digitalaxis> !offtopic darkwell
[00:58] <lee> Linera|Away: as a new linux user, the easiest solution is: install xubuntu
[00:58] <switch10_> bsmith093: go ahead that person will not listen
[00:58] <Billiard> bsmith093: he doesnt want to be helped
[00:58] <temoto> winstonw: you probably have that key combination off in X config.
[00:58] <sebsebseb> Linera|Away: as a new user of a Linux distro, a good idea is to do some reading about it
[00:58] <Darkwell> digitalaxis, why waste money on hardware optimized for moron code ?
[00:58] <bsmith093> linera i sent yiu a pm didu see it
[00:58] <burzki> Linera|Away, !forums
[00:58] <winstonw> temoto, I dont have the DontVTSwitch option in my config, its stock
[00:59] <Linera|Away> I've already installed ubuntu
[00:59] <gestahlt> Hi
[00:59] <sebsebseb> Linera|Away: yeah yeah
[00:59] <bsmith093> linera please let me help u
[00:59] <sebsebseb> Linera|Away: Ubuntu is the base
[00:59] <bsmith093> i know what im doing
[00:59] <sebsebseb> linucks: then you can put Xubuntu or Lubuntu on as well
[00:59] <gestahlt> I finally managed to setup my KVM / Qemu + guests... as well as Virtio networking
[00:59] <digitalaxis> darkwell: I do C++ and C# Programming and consulting for a living, so not sure what your on about. A nice GUI doesnt have anything to do with code
[01:00] <sebsebseb> !xfce |  Linera|Away
[01:00] <temoto> winstonw: but did you check if it's not there?
[01:00] <gestahlt> now i have a performance issue with my guest mounted drives
[01:00] <Zeppelin> ok so
[01:00] <gestahlt> i used directly my LVM storage instead of disk images
[01:00] <Zeppelin> I want skype on linux
[01:00] <Zeppelin> what do
[01:00] <digitalaxis> darkwell: I used slackware for 4 years, i know what its like to not have a nice GUI lol
[01:00] <gestahlt> and enabled virtio
[01:00] <xjunior> hi guys
[01:00] <switch10_> !skype
[01:00] <gestahlt> but the speed is like 1/4 from the host
[01:00] <gestahlt> i use ubuntu 9.10 Server
[01:00] <switch10_> Zeppelin: there ya go
[01:00] <burzki> i think linera is a windows troll with time to waste on xmas vacations.  40 folks have offered help over many hours and none has been listened to
[01:00] <gestahlt> How can i improve the performance?
[01:00] <xjunior> can someone please help with a sound issue? suddenly I have no sound!!
[01:00] <winstonw> temoto, yup, http://pastebin.com/d4704997c -- dpkg did all the edits
[01:00] <gestahlt> for my guests?
[01:00] <Darkwell> a sane GUI is defined by good abstraction for what the user is supposed to do to get things done, if the coder is a moron and waste end users computrons and ram for bloat .. its a catastrophy
[01:01] <wawan> how to perfom ubuntu
[01:01] <sebsebseb> !ot | Darkwell
[01:01] <bazhang> Darkwell, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:01] <Linera|Away> no one has given me a single answer
[01:01] <digitalaxis> bazhang: Told him that twice, good luck getting him to listen.
[01:01] <winstonw> Darkwell, people will actually reply to you in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:01] <burzki> troll
[01:01] <winstonw> and give two hoots
[01:01] <bsmith093> allrigyht thats the gloves YES WE HHAVE
[01:01] <Billiard> Linera|Away: you havent asked a good question then maybe? what exactly do you want removed?
[01:02] <lee> Linera|Away: *shrug* that's the answer for you, until you more about how ubuntu works.  as bazhang said, you could install the xubuntu-desktop package, then remove the superfluous bits, but that's more involved.
[01:02] <switch10_> Linera|Away: seriously??  the only answer you will ever get is install a lighter distro
[01:02] <burzki> Linera|Away, wont even open a terminal and follow directions .. what are we supposed to do?!?
[01:02] <digitalaxis> Can someone give me linera's question? Just so i can humor him.
[01:02] <Billiard> Linera|Away: you said you want "bare-basics" that could be anything, i consider that to be no gui, do you want sound printing support, etc...
[01:02] <winstonw> temoto, is there an alternate config Xorg could read on startup
[01:03] <Linera|Away> I'm new to linux. I'm running linux Ubuntu 9.10 on a laptop with low ram. How can I tweak the os to run on the bare basics?
[01:03] <Linera|Away> ^why can't get an answer?
[01:03] <Billiard> Linera|Away: what is "bare-basics"
[01:03] <bsmith093> go to the system menu
[01:03] <switch10_> digitalaxis: he wants to know how to make ubunu run on not much ram
[01:03] <wawan> why i can't perform my ubuntu.
[01:03] <bsmith093> administration then click synaptic
[01:04] <digitalaxis> linera|away:  Do you meet the minimum system requirments? Have you considered learning how to work in your bios to optomize your ram?
[01:04] <Darkwell> yah there are manyways to cut down things maybe there is a good readon to start off with what daemons/services you dont need/want to run
[01:04] <winstonw> Linera|Away, don't run gnome, check out something tiny like evilwm, read about different software for the same task and evaluate which people say is the most efficient
[01:04] <bsmith093> wawan i am not kidding leave or stay on opic
[01:04] <ardchoille> Linera|Away: I remember several people (including me) telling you how to solve that problems hours ago, why haven't you followed their advice?
[01:04] <temoto> winstonw: yeah, pretty much :)
[01:04] <edbian> Is there a channel for lisp support?
[01:04] <digitalaxis> linera|away: I am running Ubuntu 9.10 on a test machine at work (I teach C++ at a local college) without any issues. SO you must have downloaded something thats putting stress on it.
[01:04] <temoto> winstonw: see man Xorg if you have that. It lists many alternate locations.
[01:04] <moody> j #linuxac
[01:05] <Darkwell> edbian, how about #lisp ?
[01:05] <temoto> winstonw: section FILES.
[01:05] <winstonw> temoto, thx :)
[01:05] <lee> ardchoille: some people are convinced that if you ask the same question enough times you'll get a different answer =)
[01:05] <ardchoille> lee: o.O
[01:05] <bsmith093> does anybody want to help linera using remote desktop
[01:05] <bazhang> bsmith093, no need
[01:05] <bsmith093> cause that would be easier
[01:06] <i_is_broke> now wait it take the average idiot to be told 7 times to understand actually what hes being told.:D
[01:06] <temoto> i think everybody besides linera wants to help her
[01:06] <bazhang> i_is_broke, that is not necessary
[01:06] <ardchoille> bsmith093: it would be easier if he would simply follow the advice given to him
[01:06] <lee> only if I can start a format before shutting it down, bsmith093
[01:06] <winstonw> is there a way to easily disable cpufreq without recompiling the kernel? I use a desktop and i can be very liberal about my power consumption
[01:06] <bsmith093> yes it would but for some reason he wont
[01:06] <burzki> ardchoille, bsmith093 Linera|Away doesnt actually want any help.  hes just effing with all of us all day .. imho
[01:07] <ardchoille> burzki: Ah, ok, ow I understand
[01:07] <Stormcr0w> Hi everyone. I have upgraded from 8.10 to 9.10, but the usplash boot screen has not been updated to the latest one. Could someone help me do this?
[01:07] <ardchoille> *now
[01:07] <Darkwell> its not recommended letting strangers access via remote desktop and fiddle with Linera|Away's computer... expecially when the user seems not to know what needs to be done
[01:07] <burzki> * and others ..
[01:08] <dtownhero> how would I get rid of pulseaudio and use alsa instead? Is that possible?
[01:08] <burzki> Darkwell, ^^
[01:08] <bsmith093> beside that i we cant get him to open aterminal he wont know how to ebable remote assistance
[01:08] <Linera|Away> teamviewer is windows only
[01:08] <winstonw> dtownhero, remove package pulseaudio, then autoremove
[01:08] <Linera|Away> so i have no remote
[01:08] <bsmith093> linera yes u do
[01:08] <Billiard> dtownhero: you probably want to install gnome-alsamixer too
[01:08] <bsmith093> things are named differently in linux
[01:08] <switch10_> oh man here we go...
[01:09] <winstonw> dtownhero, you will then need to configure gstreamer apps to use alsa, also there is a libsdl sound library specifically for pulseaudio you may want to install
[01:09] <winstonw> if you use sdl
[01:09] <bsmith093> let me ask u this who installed linux for u and why
[01:09] <Linera> teamviewer is the only good remote program out there but its windows
[01:09] <dtownhero> ugh
[01:09] <dtownhero> that sucks
[01:09] <switch10_> hahhaha
[01:09] <winstonw> dtownhero, want commands?
[01:09] <bsmith093> remote desktop works fine
[01:09] <burzki> see what i mean, MS trolls abound
[01:09] <dtownhero> nah, I'm saying that configuring gstreamer apps to use alsa
[01:09] <lee> o/~ trollin' trollin' trollin' o/~
[01:09] <switch10_> bsmith093: u are wasting your time friend
[01:09] <dtownhero> that library does it all for me?
[01:10] <burzki> !op Linera
[01:10] <bsmith093> i seriousky want to know linera why do u use ubuntu
[01:10] <winstonw> dtownhero, its pretty easy -- gstreamer-properties
[01:10] <bsmith093> switch its my time to waste
[01:10] <bazhang> burzki, whats up
[01:10] <winstonw> dtownhero, also the sdl library keeps apps using sdl from using something silly like oss or pulseaudio for just having the bit for alsa installed
[01:10] <dtownhero> my problem is I'm playing WOW in Crossover and trying to run Mangler, well wine does not know how to tell pulse to multiple streams
[01:10] <switch10_> good luck then
[01:10] <lee> though having said that, and the previous discussion about compiz being superfluous, I am impressed at how much functionality is in the shiny badness that is aero in win7
[01:11] <switch10_> bsmith093: hes messing with you....
[01:11] <winstonw> I am using just evilwm.  It keeps me focused
[01:11] <winstonw> dtownhero, sdl package name is libsdl1.2debian-alsa -- install only if you know you use sdl
[01:11] <burzki> bazhang, eh?
[01:12] <bazhang> burzki, some reason for the !op command ?
[01:12] <Linera> ubuntu said its good for single core processors
[01:12] <roracle> hey guys, i want to set my num pad to be window managment stuff, but only when num locks is turned off.  however, when i turn them on, it still does the window managment stuff.  is there a way around this?
[01:12] <Linera> and low-end pcs
[01:13] <bsmith093> linera thats true
[01:13] <Linera> so i figured it should run good on my laptop
[01:13] <bsmith093> up to a piont
[01:13] <switch10_> someone kick him out of here
[01:13] <Linera> and its slow
[01:13] <winstonw> whoo?
[01:13] <switch10_> you're slow
[01:13] <bsmith093> 'linera will u switch to the pm window i opend
[01:13] <Linera> so i need help to tweak it for performance
[01:13] <sebsebseb> Linera: right, but Xubuntu may be even better than Ubuntu on your computer for that.  You can install Xubuntu into your current Ubuntu install,  and then choose which one to use, from the log in screen.
[01:13] <Billiard> Linera: you probably need more ram, do you meet the requirements?
[01:13] <Wolfman2000> Evening. WITHOUT answering vim/emacs...what's a good text editor program where I can find by regex, and then replace with the same regex in perhaps different formatting?
[01:13] <burzki> baz kinda fakin it, but follow Linera - you'll see .. all day
[01:13] <Linera> I dunno how to open that smith
[01:13] <bazhang> switch10_, that is not necessary
[01:14] <bsmith093> what im program ru using
[01:14] <winstonw> Linera, you may want to check out some resource such as manpages, infodocs, many wikis, and README files about optimizing your Ubuntu
[01:14] <lee> Wolfman2000: surely with the regex, the editor doesn't matter?
[01:14] <bsmith093> what r u using to talk to us now
[01:14] <burzki> bazhang,  kinda fakin it, but follow Linera - you'll see .. all day
[01:14] <Linera> i no longer have dxdiag which is on windows only so i can't see things like video card, ram, processor, etc
[01:14] <switch10_> hahaha
[01:14] <Gary20> if i use devede, set to 8.5gb,  to make an iso image with several videos that came out to be only 2gb in size, should i still burn it onto a double layer dvd or a regular dvd-r?
[01:14] <Wolfman2000> lee: I can find by regex without a problem in nedit. What I want to do... (\d+ to get a number with a parenthesis to the left, and replace it with...well, the number I got in \d+
[01:15] <bsmith093> linera yes u can still acess that info
[01:15] <bsmith093> i u follow directions!!!
[01:15] <switch10_> Gary20: id use a regular DVD
[01:15] <Linera> i need dxdiag to see it
[01:15] <winstonw> Linera, please, Read the Fine Manual™
[01:15] <bsmith093> NO you DONT
[01:15] <bsmith093> lisdten for a change
[01:15] <Deepc> udev sends the same 2 events on cdrom close-tray and eject, how can I handle close-tray only?
[01:16] <Gary20> switch10_, alright. if regular dvd-r works, then it'll save me some money
[01:16] <sebsebseb> Linera: some of them think your a troll, as in someone that is here to cause trouble in the channel.  I think that you might not be, and now I am thinking that maybe you should read this really good Linux is not Windows article, and then ask help in here again,  well that is if your not a troll.
[01:16] <winstonw> linduxed, check out commands lspci, x86info, and the files /proc/cpuinfo, /proc/meminfo, and some various other files in /proc
[01:16] <bsmith093> linera got to system administration system monitor
[01:16] <switch10_> Gary20: yes it will
[01:16] <sebsebseb> !windows \ Linera
[01:16] <sebsebseb> !windows | Linera
[01:16] <winstonw> linduxed, sorry dude
[01:16] <bsmith093> there u will see some tabs
[01:16] <sebsebseb> Linera: the last link
[01:16] <winstonw> Linera,  check out commands lspci, x86info, and the files /proc/cpuinfo, /proc/meminfo, and some various other files in /proc
[01:16] <Billiard> Linera: just type the command  "free -om"   that will tell you how much ram you have
[01:16] <bsmith093> click resources
[01:16] <winstonw> oh yeah thats just way easier lol
[01:16] <Linera> no run thingy like on windows
[01:17] <bsmith093> OH MY GOD
[01:17] <bsmith093> system menu
[01:17] <bsmith093> at the top of the screen
[01:17] <lee> Linera: hit alt-F2
[01:17] <winstonw> Linera, there are profilers that function in the same way, but you have to do your research
[01:17] <Wolfman2000> bsmith093: On my version of Ubuntu, it's Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal
[01:17] <kristian_> hey! i just bought a western digital elements 1tb hdd. when i start it up, something tries to auto run, which doesn't work. guess it's some windows application. anyways i was wondering what i should do with it if i want to store media files on it (pictures and videos mainly, but also some music) should i format it to ext3? and if so anyone got a nice tutorial for it? :-p
[01:17] <Wolfman2000> not exactly system tools
[01:17] <Linera> just looked in both folders in system and see no run
[01:17] <bsmith093> not run
[01:17] <Wolfman2000> Linera: it's not "run"
[01:18] <ericmcaine> i would just get rid of the content on the drive
[01:18] <ericmcaine> does it read the partition fine kristian
[01:18] <burzki> bsmith093, tried to warn you .. ;-|
[01:18] <winstonw> Linera, look at gnome's help browser.
[01:19] <winstonw> you don't know how to use gnome, that is your first goal.
[01:19] <Linera> I'm on ubuntu not gnome
[01:19] <kristian_> ericmcaine: yeah i suppose, but just figured out it is formatted as fat32. :-/
[01:19] <Billiard> Linera: "alt+F2, gnome-terminal <enter>, free -om <enter>"
[01:19] <sebsebseb> Linera: Ubuntu uses Gnome
[01:19] <bsmith093> gnome is a user interface
[01:19] <switch10_> winstonw: hes messing with you dont waste your time...
[01:19] <winstonw> switch10_, right now my time isn't of high value -- waiting for someone irl so I have time to waste :)
[01:21] <switch10_> just saying there are people here that actually need help
[01:21] <burzki> winstonw, lol.  enjoy
[01:21] <bsmith093> im telling u al remote desktop
[01:21] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html Linera here is some fine reading to acquaint yourself with the basics
[01:21] <winstonw> lol will do, and yes lets help them peeps
[01:21] <Wolfman2000> ...I found what I needed. Backreferences.
[01:21] <winstonw> Gnome's internal documentation is not bad at all I love it actually
[01:21] <Zeppelin> how do i make ubuntu show me how much HDD space i have left
[01:22] <bsmith093> disk usage analyser
[01:22] <Linera> I just need ubuntu tweaked for performance so it runs fast and not lag
[01:22] <Billiard> Zeppelin: "df -h" command maybe
[01:22] <winstonw> Zeppelin, with gnome-system-monitor, baobab, or df commands
[01:22] <bsmith093> LINERA WE ARE TRYING TO HELP U IF U JUST FOLL INSTRUCTUIONS
[01:22] <bazhang> Linera, you may wish to install a different desktop environment on top of ubuntu.
[01:22] <winstonw> the first are accessible via the menu system ( baobab is called Disk Usage Analyzer)
[01:22] <bazhang> bsmith093, lose the caps please
[01:22] <bsmith093> sorry for shouting but come on
[01:22] <buttons840> are there any guis for hg mercurial in the repos/
[01:22] <buttons840> ?
[01:22] <sebsebseb> bazhang: I was thinking before about telling them about Ubuntu Pocket Guide, but they are either a  troll as some people as some people here are thinking, or someone that expects all the answers to be given here without them having to read any web pages that are given
[01:23] <lee> Wolfman2000: damn you, I was just downloading a copy of regexbuddy to figure that out =)
[01:23] <winstonw> bsmith093, its ok to get mad, but at someone who is just an entity of text, don't bother.
[01:23] <buttons840> i heard about something called tortoise-hg, but can't find it
[01:23] <Billiard> Linera: run that command i previously mentioned, if you dont meet the minimum requirements for ram, you wont get good performance
[01:23] <Wolfman2000> lee: *chuckles* regexbuddy? Sounds like a good name of a program. I'll take a look.
[01:23] <lee> Wolfman2000: it is very *very* good, or at least was in 2006
[01:23] <temoto> buttons840: tortoise is windows thing. You want hgtk or hgview.
[01:23] <Wolfman2000> ...it's also a Windows program. :(
[01:24] <lee> I no longer have the brainspace to dedicate to regexps =)
[01:24] <bsmith093> btw i always wondered does a troll mean abot or just someone who pisses people ooff bc they can
[01:24] <lee> yes, there's also a linux version
[01:24] <winstonw> which means it can be more tightly integrated with Windows exclusively buttons840
[01:24] <temoto> bsmith093: second.
[01:24] <burzki> bazhang, that has been suggested from the very beginning
[01:24] <bsmith093> temtot what did u mean
[01:24] <temoto> bsmith093: troll doesn't mean a bot.
[01:24] <bsmith093> oh tanx
[01:25] <lee> in fact, the website is telling me that my license doesn't cover me for a windows version (I am trying to download it under firefox in windows), only linux... which is a bit annoying =)
[01:25] <burzki> bsmith093, i think its just someone killing time
[01:25] <temoto> ... by pissing other people off.
[01:25] <switch10_> burzki: yes
[01:25] <bsmith093> amen
[01:26] <Linera> nothing for seeing ram unless i install windows
[01:26] <winstonw> Well, if he actually learned something, I'm happy
[01:26] <Linera> :(
[01:26] <bsmith093> hey does pidgin have voice chat i can talk faster than i type
[01:26] <switch10_> bsmith093: nope
[01:26] <bsmith093> awwww crud
[01:26] <switch10_> bsmith093: empathy does though
[01:26] <winstonw> Linera, send me a private message if you aren't trolling and I'll help you with your questions
[01:26] <witeshark> use skype
[01:26] <lee> Wolfman2000: oh - sorry - it appears to have changed in v3, and there's no linux version... well that sucks, one of the reasons I bought it was to support linux developers, nevermind =)
[01:26] <Billiard> Linera: you are now no longer able to talk in this channel until you figure out how to run the command "free -om" on your own and pastebin the results for us
[01:27] <temoto> bsmith093: that's kinda funny. They introduced new IM only because Pidgin doesn't have voice chat. Empathy is all ways worse, but it does have voice support :)
[01:27] <Linera> dunno how to send a private message
[01:27] <jvasile> I am attempting to enable multicast in pulseaudio, but the option to enable multicast sender is greyed out in the device chooser.  How can I enable it? Thanks.
[01:27] <winstonw> Linera, /message username "body of message"
[01:27] <temoto> winstonw: what have you done...
[01:27] <switch10_> temoto: i like empathy...
[01:27] <winstonw> temoto, getting him off #ubuntu and into my own realm
[01:27] <temoto> switch10_: k, no offense to people.
[01:27] <bsmith093> i do too but not the program
[01:27] <switch10_> haha
[01:27] <switch10_> none takin
[01:28] <winstonw> If he really needs help individuals can handle it better
[01:28] <Linera> then just talk to me in the room, I'm not typing that everytime
[01:28] <lee> *** winstonw is on #ubuntu #masochism #insane
[01:28] <winstonw> Linera, it should open another message "dialog" or "window"
[01:28] <winstonw> xD
[01:28] <temoto> or weechat buffer
[01:28] <winstonw> is there a masochim channel?
[01:28] <winstonw> yeah that too
[01:28] <winstonw> In effect it'll open a new window for you
[01:29] <t__> say I want do put a virtual system I use in virtualbox in a different partition so I can install a new OS and reformat and not loose this.  where is the file at?
[01:29] <temoto> There's quite a chance you're trying to help an old fat troll whos using weechat under icewm.
[01:29] <burzki> winstonw, we've tried all that
[01:29] <Alystair> I'm getting the shakes installing ubuntu in VM, forcing myself to learn something about unix so I can actually use some cutting edge development stuff (in comparison to windows)
[01:29] <bsmith093> t__
[01:29] <Alystair> scary.
[01:29] <sebsebseb> t__: you mean use a psyical partition in Virtualbox?
[01:29] <bsmith093> install virtualbox ose
[01:29] <t__> er
[01:30] <winstonw> Linera, did you get my personal message?
[01:30] <sebsebseb> t__: a psysical install in Virtualbox?
[01:30] <t__> i have a program installed in my virtual system
[01:30] <burzki> winstonw, let it be ..
[01:30] <Linera> only see firefox, buddy list on this room
[01:30] <t__> that i dont want to loose
[01:30] <Linera> and this*
[01:30] <winstonw> burzki, probably will have to lol.
[01:30] <t__> but i do want to chang my native os to ubuntu
[01:31] <switch10_> t__: /home/"user"/.virtualbox
[01:31] <bastid_raZor> t__: what os is the host?
[01:31] <sebsebseb> t__: what's your host OS?  Windows?
[01:31] <t__> currenrly linux mint going to ubuntu. win xp is the machine
[01:31] <sebsebseb> t__: be more clear
[01:31] <sebsebseb> t__: your host is?  and your vm is?
[01:32] <burzki> winstonw, only because about three doxen of us have been there done that already today .. just the same thing over and over.  and all the rest is just ot
[01:32] <bsmith093> well people its been nice tell me if it works out im gonna boot up the debian disc i just burned
[01:32] <burzki> *dozen
[01:32] <rooob> hey nubz, come to arch :p
[01:32] <t__> um i dont know terminology but im on linux mint right now and i want to go to the newest ubuntu
[01:32] <_Pb> does anyone here use tinywm?
[01:32] <rooob> (jk)
[01:32] <MenZa> rooob: That's hardly helpful.
[01:32] <_Pb> or have had heard of it?
[01:32] <t__> win xp is virtual
[01:32] <_Pb> *have
[01:33] <t__> i want to open that same virtual machine in ubuntu as i do LM
[01:33] <t__> so i can have the repair manual for my car
[01:33] <bsmith093> copy thre virtual machine image file
[01:33] <berrybarry> could I acess or make posts in linux ternimal for facebook?
[01:33] <_Pb> alt+button1 is supposed to move windows, and alt+button3 is supposed to resize them, but neither do anything
[01:34] <sebsebseb> t__: ok
[01:34] <t__> k, so prob that /user/.virtualmachine
[01:34] <t__> thanks
[01:34] <bsmith093> yes t its in theer
[01:34] <Billiard> berrybarry: you probably could make a script to do it if you really wanted
[01:34] <sebsebseb> t__: got a seperate /home partition no?
[01:34] <_Pb> please guys I need help, dwm is too bloated
[01:34] <Linera> so no one can help me tweak ubuntu?
[01:34] <bsmith093> LINERA
[01:34] <berrybarry> Billiard thanks
[01:34] <bsmith093> yes we are
[01:34] <t__> heh im not positive
[01:35] <sebsebseb> t__: I guess seperate /home for Mint and Ubuntu will be very similar
[01:35] <switch10_> jsut ignore
[01:35] <t__> it says /home/"user"
[01:35] <ctmjr> Linera: sorry no
[01:35] <sebsebseb> t__: I meant on it's own partition you  probably don't have that
[01:35] <bsmith093> linera open a terminal
[01:35] <bsmith093> type sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[01:35] <digitalaxis> bsmith093: Linera wont, we have already tried telling them to like 30min ago
[01:35] <sebsebseb> t__: anyway  you just need .virtualbox  in  the home Ubuntu will use, and your vm should work fine
[01:35] <sebsebseb> t__: or
[01:35] <Billiard> Linera: correct, no one can help you here, time to leave
[01:35] <lee> ctmjr: is the correct answer! =)
[01:35] <D3RGPS31> how do i disable "enter name of file to save to" so firefox just saves the file with its name in the default directory; without my intervention after selecting to save it
[01:36] <rooob> Linera, what your problem
[01:36] <sebsebseb> t__: you have the vmdk file some where, change the config file and yep it works.  plus  you can set up a new virtual machine in Virtualbox and tell it to use the old virtual hard disk
[01:36] <winstonw> burzki, where are the ops when you need them?
[01:36] <lee> D3RGPS31: go into the Firefox prefs and tell it to save to a dir rather than prompt you each time
[01:36] <winstonw> !op Linera
[01:36] <Billiard> rooob: he is a troll
[01:36] <Jamed_> winstonw: its ops
[01:36] <bsmith093> winston what does that mean
[01:36] <sebsebseb> t__: vmdk  file uhmm that's VMware not virtualbox,  I meant the virtual hard disk file for Virtuabox,  the vhd file
[01:36] <winstonw> !ops Linera
[01:36] <rooob> that's your problem with him, not his problem :o
[01:36] <burzki> winstonw, i was fakin it earlier, i think they're aware
[01:36] <bsmith093> exclamation op
[01:36] <winstonw> oh hehe
[01:36] <t__> vdi?
[01:36] <digitalaxis> ATTENTION:  linera doesnt actually want help or just refuses to listen, we have been TRYING to help them for hours
[01:36] <D3RGPS31> lee: i award you 1 interwebz o:
[01:36] <_Pb> i would gladly help Linera in a private chat if i could get some help in return
[01:37] <t__> whats vdi?
[01:37] <Linera> I'm new to linux. I'm running linux Ubuntu 9.10 on a laptop with low ram. How can I tweak the os to run on the bare basics?
[01:37] <Linera> that
[01:37]  * lee adds it to the pile
[01:37] <sebsebseb> t__: ok open up your home folder on mint
[01:37] <bsmith093> t__ in the virtualbox hidden folder
[01:37] <digitalaxis> Linera: We have told you about 100000000 TIMES
[01:37] <sebsebseb> t__: show the hidden files look in .virtualbox
[01:37] <bsmith093> there is a .vdi file
[01:37] <switch10_> rooob: he warned you. everyone here is ignoring him he has been asking the same questions for hours
[01:37] <D3RGPS31> lee: wait; it is set not to intervene, but it still does o:
[01:37] <_Pb> how do i shot web in ubuntu
[01:37] <linuxnoob> i need help with ubuntu regarding gnome and a home folder
[01:37] <burzki> winstonw, but filing an extra never hurts.  maybe there should be about ten, then maybe they would catch on and just block him solid
[01:37] <sebsebseb> !feed
[01:37] <berrybarry> Linera run xfce or older ubuntu
[01:38] <EastDallas> Linera: You can try switching the interface to xfce
[01:38] <switch10_> linuxnoob: what is your question
[01:38] <ubuntuisloved> Linera, how low is your ram?
[01:38] <MenZa> !feeding the troll
[01:38] <MenZa> sebsebseb: ^
[01:38] <digitalaxis> Linuxnoob: What about it do you need help with
[01:38] <EastDallas> !xubuntu | Linera:
[01:38] <_Pb> !tinywm
[01:38] <Linera> i need ubuntu tweaked for performance
[01:38] <t__> ah that was what i was missing, show hidden files
[01:38] <sebsebseb> MenZa: yep :) that's what I wanted,  altough Linera  might just be a rather confussed user, instead of a troll, but quite a lot of people think they are a troll
[01:38] <EastDallas> berrybarry>EastDallas :p
[01:38] <burzki> rooob, ubuntuisloved dont go there
[01:38] <ubuntuisloved> Linera, how low is your ram?
[01:38] <Linera> no dxdiag, so i dunno how much ram
[01:38] <bsmith093> FOR THE LAST TIME LINERA WE KNOW THE ANSWER NOT OUR FAULT IF U WON'T LISTEN
[01:39] <lee> sebsebseb: the lack of any response to suggestions screams troll to me
[01:39] <berrybarry> EastDallas I would just run ubuntu 7x hehe
[01:39] <ubuntuisloved> Linera, are you aware of the model of your machine?
[01:39] <linuxnoob> i went to login and it said that the gnome default where not properly set up, and would not let me login as a admin
[01:39] <Linera> a dell
[01:39] <Jamed_> winstonw: its ops
[01:39] <berrybarry> or suse 9.1 personal ha
[01:39] <Jamed_> !ops | Linera asks the same question over and over, ignoring any attempts to help. i consider that trolling
[01:39] <Jamed_> winstonw: sorry
[01:39] <t__> wth is a troll and what is wrong with it
[01:39] <ubuntuisloved> Linera, dell is the brand not model
[01:39] <switch10_> Linera is a troll for thos who dont know...  hes been here for hours screwing with people
[01:39] <sebsebseb> MenZa: not really the right factoid, but I was thinking don't feed the troll,   don't message them and they will probably stop sending messages etc.
[01:40] <MenZa> !feeding the troll | Everyone
[01:40] <lee> a screaming troll, like a flaming homosexual, but less firey
[01:40] <EastDallas> Linera: xfce is just the interface between you and the core of Ubuntu (linux).  You basically will be running ubuntu if you switch to xubuntu.  and it's really a pretty easy change
[01:40] <_Pb> does anyone here use twm?
[01:40] <MenZa> lee: That's enough of that, thank you.
[01:40] <berrybarry> Linera 700mhz?
[01:40] <ubuntuisloved> Linera, I'm thinking if your not aware of what a brand vs model is your in rough shape to learn much of anything i wish you luck
[01:40] <burzki> sebsebseb, cant be That confused - has been given very basic/explicit instruction
[01:40] <Billiard> !ops | Linera is a troll, complaining about lack of dxdiag, won't answer any questions when attempted to be helped
[01:40] <MenZa> Billiard: We heard your cries for help. Hold on.
[01:40] <Linera> its an old dell laptop
[01:41] <burzki> !feeding | EastDallas
[01:41] <digitalaxis> Linera: That doesnt help any, whats the model.
[01:41] <bsmith093> how old
[01:41] <winstonw> Jamed_, its fine :)
[01:41] <Linera> inspiro
[01:41] <Aethies> Sup peeps
[01:41] <Linera> inspiron*
[01:41] <berrybarry> Linera read the model on the bottom its a sticker
[01:41] <jvasile> I am attempting to enable multicast in pulseaudio, but the option to enable multicast sender is greyed out in the device chooser.  How can I enable it? Thanks.
[01:41] <Jamed_> winstonw: i hit up, when trying to to hit enter :D
[01:41] <Linera> 5100
[01:42] <berrybarry> hold on
[01:42] <digitalaxis> Linera: There are about 10ish inspirons, be specific please. 1150, 510, 1525? what?
[01:42] <linuxnoob> i went to login and it said that the gnome default where not properly set up, and would not let me login as a admin
[01:42] <digitalaxis> linera: thankyou
[01:42] <jchavez> hello people i have one problme with my canon ip1800 installed driver but when need print show me this error http://jorechp.com/wow/p.png
[01:42] <lee> D3RGPS31: hmm, sorry, it sounds like you have the right option set... are you restoring a session when you launch FF or are you starting a new one?
[01:42] <D3RGPS31> lee: new
[01:43] <berrybarry> Linera ubuntu 7.10 would run great :)
[01:43] <MenZa> berrybarry: Stop suggesting unsupported releases.
[01:43] <sebsebseb> !7.10 | berrybarry Linera
[01:43] <ubuntuisloved> Linera, I'd recommend starting with either a light weight distro like xubuntu or a light weight window manager
[01:43] <D3RGPS31> lee: i also shortened my quest :D "how do i disable firefox' save dialog"
[01:43] <jthing> linuxnoob, reboot and at the grub screen press e on the boot item. Then eter a text option. This boots you in text mode.
[01:44] <bsmith093> dekko gone in 2 seconds
[01:44] <digitalaxis> Linera: You barely have minimum reqs for ubuntu 9.10. I reccomend downloading Xubuntu.
[01:44] <linuxnoob> u mean command line?
[01:44] <burzki> berrybarry, 8.04 better - was suggested hours ago
[01:44] <berrybarry> Linera MenZa http://www.linux-laptop.net/dell.html
[01:44] <burzki> ubuntuisloved, suggested hours ago
[01:44] <MenZa> berrybarry: 7.10 is unsupported. Noone should /ever/ use it on a production system again.
[01:45] <ubuntuisloved> burzki, maybe he's pig headed
[01:45] <burzki> digitalaxis, suggested hours ago
[01:45] <lee> D3RGPS31: sorry, I don't know, sounds like you have the right option set alreay, if you have "Save files to..." and a folder selected
[01:45] <switch10_> ubuntuisloved: stop feeding the troll please
[01:45] <fizk__> I dunno if anyone realizes, but a Jaunty --> Karmic  upgrade doesn't really update everything as though it was a new install
[01:45] <digitalaxis> burzki: I know i was here, but for all we know Linera is a young kid or a really slow reader who doesnt know how to scroll.
[01:45] <switch10_> there are people here that actually need help
[01:45] <sebsebseb> fizk__: I already knew that
[01:45] <fizk__> I just installed Karmic on a new hd and it's pretty sweet
[01:46] <berrybarry> MenZa .... tell her about upgrading ram I assume its 256mb ha
[01:46] <sebsebseb> fizk__: no Grub 2 on upgrade, and Ext3 9.04 installs won't become Ext4 on upgrade
[01:46] <MenZa> berrybarry: Irrelevant.
[01:46] <melvincv> is there a proper download accelerator for ubuntu? I'd prefer GUI.
[01:46] <fizk__> sebsebseb, ah
[01:46] <Linera> I'm on ubuntu already so stop telling me to reinstall it
[01:46] <Billiard> Linera: you can try install xfce, you may get better performance than the default gnome, you can install this on your current ubuntu installation without reinstalling. google for a guide "ubuntu install xfce", if you have problems with something Specific, you can ask that here
[01:46] <digitalaxis> berryberry: Its a 512MB RAM laptop.
[01:46] <Linera> no point in doing so
[01:46] <bsmith093> menze what does thr exclamaiotn ops thing do
[01:46] <sebsebseb> Linera: what you don't understand is this
[01:46] <sebsebseb> Linera: Ubuntu is the base
[01:46] <Firefishe> I'm using Ibex (Desktop--right now) and Karmic on a laptop (not currently connected).  My ISP is a point-to-point WISP, using Tranzio TR-CPQ-19f tranceivers (big square all-in-one unit mounted on my residence).  They recently had an outage, and ever since then, my router--a Linksys WRT-54g (Firmware Version: v4.30.5)--connections are all slow.  It's okay just connected directly to the antenna.
[01:46] <fizk__> sebsebseb,  were you able to get Windows to boot w/ Grub2?
[01:47] <ubuntuisloved> switch10_, who's authorized to call him that? you?
[01:47] <MenZa> bsmith093: It alerts us (the ops) that something's wrong in here, and that we should respond to it.
[01:47] <digitalaxis> Linera: You should have done your research before installing it. Because you will never get ubuntu to run how YOU want it to with your system
[01:47] <ftw> melvincv: I use DownthemAll http://www.downthemall.net/ for Firefox
[01:47] <burzki> digitalaxis, what i Do know is that it has been the same line of q/a for hours, repeated about every ten minutes, and whoever came in new to the channel responds and keeps it going .. just watch
[01:47] <berrybarry> digitalaxis only good for basics...
[01:47] <Linera> people keep saying to install ubuntu
[01:47] <fizk__> sebsebseb, if you have win installed
[01:47] <sebsebseb> Linera: Ubuntu uses something called Gnome as it's desktop environment, but there are other ones as well such as XFCE/Xubuntu
[01:47] <Linera> yet I'll be right back to where i'm at
[01:47] <ftw> melvincv: Works fine with Rapidshare, etc.
[01:47] <digitalaxis> Linera: UBUNTU is not what we are telling you to reinstall
[01:47] <Billiard> Linera: we just told you you dont have to reinstall, you are not listening/a troll
[01:47] <lee> Linera: no, people kepp telling you to install Xubuntu, it's a different product
[01:48] <melvincv> i also used downthemall, but now i switched over to google chrome...
[01:48] <MenZa> Linera: Open a terminal, write sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, log out, change your 'Session' to Xubuntu, log in, you're done.
[01:48] <digitalaxis> Linera: WE want you to install XUBUNTU, its NOT the same thing. YOU wont notice the diffrence as much, but your system will use it more efficiently
[01:48] <sebsebseb> Linera: Xubuntu can be downloaded as it's own operating system instead of Ubuntu.  However you can also install Xubuntu into your Ubuntu install, then you have both,  Ubuntu and Xubuntu. and you choose which one to use from the log in screen, one will be the default as well.
[01:48] <fizk__> bbl
[01:48] <ftw> melvincv: sorry, I don't know of any download extensions for Chrome. Check the chrome extension database maybe?
[01:48] <Linera> terminal?
[01:48] <burzki> Linera, install windows98
[01:49] <MenZa> Linera: Applications -> Terminal
[01:49] <MenZa> burzki: Please stop that.
[01:49] <sebsebseb> burzki: stop being silly
[01:49] <berrybarry> Linera sebsebseb MenZa lets all goto #xubuntu room
[01:49] <melvincv> no, there arent any...
[01:49] <IdleOne> burzki: help or stop
[01:49] <Linera> windows is even worst on this system
[01:49] <sebsebseb> berrybarry: no need
[01:49] <sebsebseb> Linera: ok the terminal
[01:49] <digitalaxis> Sebsebseb, before you move on
[01:49] <Linera> what is terminal?
[01:49] <digitalaxis> Linera: have you got your terminal open yet? ok thats a no
[01:49] <sebsebseb> Linera: is where you put commands for a Linux distribution to run
[01:50] <gues5810> need help, i have an package in desktop how to instal it in terminal? the file name "/home/gemilang/Desktop/xaralx0.7_rev1785.package"
[01:50] <digitalaxis> Linera: Do you see the applications tab in the top left of your screen?
[01:50] <sebsebseb> Linera: your in Ubuntu/Gnome right now, so system > administration > terminal
[01:50] <MenZa> Linera: Top-left of your screen once you've logged in. Click 'Applications', then go to 'Utilities', then Terminal.
[01:50] <Billiard> Linera: google for a guide "ubuntu install xfce", if you have problems with something Specific, you can ask that here, again you dont need to REinstall ubuntu
[01:50] <bsmith093> gdebi
[01:50] <digitalaxis> Linera: Click on "Applications" go to "Utilities" then go to "Terminal"
[01:50] <MenZa> !google > Billiard
[01:50] <Linera> nothing called terminal
[01:50] <burzki> i did my bit to help, explicit simple basic instruction to terminal and more and have been watching all you do exactly the same thing since.  maybe everyone just let it be .. i'll shut up now and leave y'all to it, however.  OT
[01:50] <berrybarry> Billiard ha she a noob be nice
[01:50] <sebsebseb> fizk__: I have dual booted Karmic no problem with Vista
[01:50] <sebsebseb> fizk__: and Grub 2
[01:51] <digitalaxis> Linera: It is inside your "accesories" tab in "Applications"
[01:51] <kostkon> melvincv, check netfleet and/or multiget
[01:51] <_Pb> so has anyone here used tinywm before?
[01:51] <MenZa> !anyone | _Pb
[01:51] <Pici> Could ONE person please address Linera, its not helping that they are getting directions from 5 people at once.
[01:51] <linuxnoob> burzki, can we move to pm
[01:51] <ardian> How can i upload a file to a ftp server via the terminal ? is there any client ?
[01:51] <burzki> certaINLY
[01:51] <MenZa> ardian: 'ftp' - it's installed by default
[01:52] <sebsebseb> Linera: ok you got the terminal open now?
[01:52] <digitalaxis> Linera: Did you find it bud?
[01:52] <ardian> Yes im in my ftp
[01:52] <ardian> but how do i upload a file there
[01:52] <MenZa> ardian: Once you're in ftp, write 'open ftp.server.com' -- then you're prompted for a password/user
[01:52] <MenZa> ardian: 'put filename'
[01:52] <IdleOne> Linera: you can also hit the alt-F2 keys and then type xterm in the box that opens
[01:52] <ardian> ok
[01:52] <digitalaxis> Idle0ne: He is already being helped, please dont confuse an already confused person.
[01:53] <ardian> local: pc: No such file or directory
[01:53] <_Pb> MenZa: thanks
[01:53] <IdleOne> digitalaxis: thanks but when you where tossing trolls earlier I didn't see you taking into account that perhaps it was confusing also
[01:53] <switch10_> great
[01:53] <_Pb> I cannot get mouse commands working under tinywm
[01:53] <ardian> I'm getting this msg "local: pc: No such file or directory
[01:53] <ardian> "
[01:53] <Bookman> I recorded some video in raw DV format using Kino.  How do I now convert that to an mpeg format?  Or other video format for sharing?
[01:53] <MenZa> ardian: Apparently, you're trying to upload the file 'pc', which is not in your current directory.
[01:54] <MenZa> Bookman: I'm unaware of the specifics, but you can probably use ffmpeg or mencoder
[01:54] <ardian> Yes it is
[01:54] <defn> wow.  just wow.  I went from having 0 disk space to having 22GB free due to weird logfile crap
[01:54] <digitalaxis> Idle0ne: If you have a problem with something that happend earlier, you can PM me about it. But no need to confuse someone in chat that WAS making progress
[01:54] <berrybarry> anyone know what linux distro is supported for gateway colorbook?
[01:54] <bsmith093> bookman install winff sudo apt-get install finff
[01:54] <switch10_> _Pb: mouse gestures?
[01:54] <Bookman> bsmith093, Does that have a nice friendly GUI?
[01:54] <MenZa> !ot | berrybarry
[01:54] <_Pb> can someone please help me get mouse commands working under tinywm? i will draw you a picture if you do
[01:54] <Ziber> Using ip6tables, how can I disallow connection to a certain IP on a certain port?
[01:55] <_Pb> switch10_: no, just regular mouse commands, alt+mouse1 should move a window, but it does not for me
[01:55] <bsmith093> nbookman yes it does best video cenverter ever
[01:55] <IdleOne> digitalaxis: you could of msg'ed me also instead of telling me to basically shut up in a channel.
[01:55] <berrybarry> MenZa thanks
[01:55] <Bookman> bsmith093, Awesome! Thanks.
[01:55] <IdleOne> digitalaxis: let's agree to disagree on this :) /me stops now
[01:55] <bsmith093> ur very welcome
[01:55] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[01:55] <MenZa> digitalaxis, IdleOne: Let's be civil now :)
[01:55] <IdleOne> MenZa: agreed
[01:55] <digitalaxis> Idle0ne: Agreed, so now can we have a party in a PM?
[01:55] <switch10_> thanks MeZa
[01:56] <kboes> set theme default
[01:56] <MenZa> !awaynick > Linera
[01:56] <Ziber> Using ip6tables, how can I disallow connection to a certain IP on a certain port?
[01:57] <melvincv> thanks, got netfleet...
[01:57] <kostkon> melvincv, :)
[01:57] <_Pb> should I file a bug report for this?
[01:58] <Linera> so how can i tweak ubuntu for performance
[01:58] <D3RGPS31> how do i disable firefox's save dialog for manual saves o:
[01:58] <Alystair> what does PPA stand for?
[01:58] <_Pb> hahaha
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Linera: by installing Xubuntu
[01:58] <MenZa> Personal Packaging Archive, Alystair.
[01:58] <bsmith093> linera with 500 megs of ram its not going to happen
[01:58] <Alystair> thanks!
[01:58] <Linera> I'm already on ubuntu
[01:58] <MenZa> Alystair: Think of it as a personal repository :)
[01:58] <digitalaxis> MenZa: Linera just proved they're trolling lol we already have tried explaining<PHONE_NUMBER> times
[01:59]  * Alystair is just trying to get a development stack going, starting with Nginx
[01:59] <sebsebseb> Linera: I explained it earlier, and some others tried to as well
[01:59] <Linera> i never said how much ram i have as i can't see that info without windows
[01:59] <bsmith093> linera x ubuntu is the same as ubuntu it just look a littl;e different
[01:59] <cgkades> doesnt xubuntu run a different wm
[01:59] <sebsebseb> Linera: you can find out how much RAM you have in Ubuntu/Xubuntu as well you just need the correct command, and to put it in the terminal
[01:59] <switch10_> Linera: sudo apt-get install sysinfo
[01:59] <bazhang> cgkades, yep
[01:59] <switch10_> like i said 10 times
[01:59] <Bookman> bsmith093, hmm, winff starts up fine, but never converts anything.    Nothing save, no errors.
[01:59] <Alystair> doesn't sysinfo already exist?
[01:59] <digitalaxis> Linera: I told you how much ram you have, 512MB
[01:59] <Linera> no run
[01:59] <Linera> so i can't open cmd
[01:59] <bsmith093> bookman can u open a private channel
[02:00] <cgkades> lol
[02:00] <digitalaxis> Linera: You have 512 MB, your using a Dell Inspiron 5100
[02:00] <Alystair> I just installed ubuntu and it's right there under "system monitor" :P
[02:00] <cgkades> gotta love trying to run a windows command in linux
[02:00] <melvincv> cmd is on windows... linux has terminal.
[02:00] <Alystair> he's a troll? :)
[02:00] <switch10_> he knows
[02:00] <Ziber> Using ip6tables, how can I disallow connection to a certain IP on a certain port?
[02:00]  * ctmjr admires the patience and dedication of the ubuntu users in this channel but enough is enough with Linera
[02:00] <Ziber> !iptables
[02:01] <cgkades> ooo iptables are fun
[02:01] <Linera> well still no run
[02:01] <Pici> Ziber: Theres also #iptables if you need interactive help
[02:01] <Ziber> Pici: oh, hm, i'll check that out. thanks
[02:02] <digitalaxis> !ops How much more proof do we need of linera obviously refusing to help and simply spamming chat before something is done?
[02:02] <Logan_> hi
[02:02] <Jamed> Linera: one last time: hit Alt + F2, then a window pops up. there you enter "gnome-terminal" and hit enter.
[02:02] <Pici> digitalaxis: There are numerous ops here and we're dealing with the issue in a private message.
[02:03] <Linera> thats apps
[02:03] <digitalaxis> Pici: Well in the mean time they're spamming here, not your private message.
[02:03] <cgkades> lol
[02:03] <Pici> Linera: Please see your private message
[02:03] <cgkades> digitalaxis: give them a break
[02:03] <switch10_> Pici: we wont
[02:03] <Logan_> hi
[02:03] <switch10_> Pici: he*
[02:03] <cgkades> digitalaxis: you can /ignore if he's really anoying you
[02:04] <Jamed> Linera: have you opened it yet?
[02:04] <Linera> i only have 2 windows: firefox and pidgin
[02:04] <switch10_> Logan_: do you have a question?
[02:04] <Alystair> thanks
[02:04] <Ziber> Pici: You wouldnt happen to be familiar with iptables yourself, would you?
[02:04] <Pici> Linera: Please open your private messag window.
[02:04] <Pici> Ziber: No, sorry :/
[02:04] <chatZilla> Why can't my computer boot linux off a CD-RW ?
[02:05] <Ziber> Pici: :/ Because the site that !iptables gives you talks about an option that my ip6tables doesnt have... --dport?
[02:05] <switch10_> chatZilla: does it boot off a cd-r?
[02:05] <cgkades> chatZilla: how did you burn it?
[02:05] <chatZilla> yes
[02:05] <chatZilla> it boots of a regular cd-r but not a cd-rw?
[02:06] <chatZilla> I burned it using Nero
[02:06] <cgkades> chatZilla: maybe use a cd-r then?
[02:06] <captblackwood> HA HA!
[02:06] <captblackwood> whoops wrong chanel...lol
[02:06] <chatZilla> that's a waste of cd
[02:06] <cgkades> chatZilla: they are less then 50 cents now.....
[02:07] <digitalaxis> chatzilla: Have you tried putting it on DVD?
[02:07] <chatZilla> don't think about the price think about the environment
[02:07] <cgkades> chatZilla: how about booting off a usb drive then?
[02:07] <Pici> Linera: No one else can read your messages currently. Please see the private message that you have waiting for you from bazhang regarding your behavior here.
[02:07] <switch10_> chatZilla: try burning again maybe?
[02:07] <chatZilla> my computer is to old for usb drive booting
[02:07] <switch10_> chatZilla: sometimes the burn fails without an error
[02:08] <switch10_> chatZilla: also cd-rw's degrade
[02:08] <Pici> Linera: please type /join #ubuntu-ops     right here, where you are typing to me
[02:08] <burzki> Pici, switch10_ digitalaxis sebsebseb Jamed  Others .. !! you got it yet?
[02:08] <kostkon> chatZilla, try burning it again at a low speed and use a cd-r.
[02:08] <centHOGG> Apple ][
[02:08] <chatZilla> what happened is it makes the same noise it usually makes when it's booting a regular cd but instead of say Linux iso.....blah press enter it skipped that and directly booted windows
[02:09] <Jamed> burzki: yes i got it, i was about to enter /ignore Linera when Pici +zb'ed them
[02:09] <bsmith093> chatzilla too OLD ofor usb booting what is that acient
[02:09] <switch10_> chatZilla: yeah the burn failed and its booting to your hard disk
[02:09] <chatZilla> it an hp-pavilion a708n
[02:10] <lee> or the disc is bad, or the drive doesn't like booting from CDRW (seen that before in a really old CD drive)
[02:10] <Chorch> Pici,  can you invite the nick millly here ?
[02:11] <IdleOne> Chorch: milly needs to !register their nick to be able to join here
[02:11] <Chorch> pishe don t know how to join
[02:11] <Chorch> ok
[02:12] <IdleOne> !register > Chorch
[02:12] <Chorch> i see
[02:13] <Pici> Linera: You need to open your private messages or look in #ubuntu-ops
[02:15] <burzki> fyi for those following the L i n e r a .. i have an old dell inspiron 3800 with 256 ram running karmic .. fine enough
[02:15] <lee> I'm installing xubuntu into a virtualbox at the moment, which should be interesting (my system is not awesome)
[02:16] <bazhang> Linera, you need to respond via PM to me or in #ubuntu-ops ; no one else can see what you are saying here.
[02:16] <lee> mainly so I can run an app that Wolfman2000 reminded me I have =)
[02:16] <Alystair> lost cause
[02:16] <switch10_> lee:  you should be ok.  I had it running on an old win 95 machine
[02:16] <alid> I had Kubuntu 9.10 installed on my machine and just installed windows. It ruined my grub boot loader and I am now on Kubuntu 9.04 live CD. How can I recover my grub from here?
[02:17] <switch10_> alid: you should always have windows installed first.
[02:17] <switch10_> alid: windows will overwrite grub
[02:17] <alid> switch10_: Yea I know. I'm sure that there's a simple way to recover it from the live CD, though.
[02:18] <Jamed> !grub2 | alid
[02:18] <Cunbuntu> Hi
[02:18] <switch10_> alid: you would have to use a windows recovery disk
[02:18] <switch10_> i believe
[02:18] <Cunbuntu> What is the channel for Ubuntu Off topic?
[02:18] <DaZ> !offtopic | Cunbuntu
[02:18] <DaZ> \o/
[02:18] <Cunbuntu> Thankyou Daz
[02:18] <Cunbuntu> :)
[02:18] <jmp_> alid, just do :sudo upgrade-grub
[02:18] <bazhang> Linera, please address me in the other channel
[02:19] <lee> jmp_: upgrade or update?
[02:19] <alid> jmp_: Would it install grub*2* then?
[02:19] <jmp_> alid, update sorry
[02:19] <Jamed> switch10_: alid: as i understand it windows boots just fine, but there is no more grub, so you don't need the windows cd
[02:20] <jmp_> alid, then you will see the entries of your grub
[02:20] <switch10_> Jamed: got it, thanks.
[02:21] <jmp_> alid, you do one things even u are on the live cd go the folder ur spoiled ubuntu file system disk
[02:21] <bazhang> Linera, and you are in more than one channel. Please address me there or via PM
[02:21] <bazhang> okay
[02:22] <burzki> alid, seems like this problem is common enough that it should be brought to greater attention somewhere so folks aren't always trashing grub
[02:22] <alid> Windows is just stupid.
[02:23] <burzki> lol
[02:23] <burzki> well, there is That!
[02:23] <jmp_> alid, look for the folder /etc/boot/grub.d
[02:23] <lee> it's just presumptuous
[02:24] <jmp_> alid, you still there?
[02:24] <chrls> hey all. :) I'm wondering how I could redirect an output to a program argument? for instance, I want to redirect the output of ls to my_program --foo <output here>
[02:24] <alid> jmp_: I'm running 9.04 live CD. There's no /etc/boot there.
[02:24] <lee> much like ESXi presuming that you don't want things like the dell/hp utility partition wen you install it...
[02:24] <burzki> but really, a page in the wiki, or a sticky in the forums or soemthing about how not to install windows over ubuntu
[02:24] <Jamed> alid: since the livecd has a different grub, than your installed version, i guess you have to mount the ubuntu partition(s) and chroot in. then you can do a grub-install /dev/sdX (where X is most probably 'a')
[02:24] <jmp_> alid, but go to the files system of ur spoiled linux
[02:25] <switch10_> chrls > output.txt
[02:25] <alid> Let me mount it.
[02:25] <chrls> switch10_: I don't want to have to create a temporary file, though. :)
[02:25] <^Phantom^> Is it possible to install and run ubuntu on 192MB of RAM?
[02:25] <chrls> what I really want to do is pass the output of ls to mplayer -playlist
[02:25] <bazhang> Linera, sure
[02:26] <bazhang> Linera, look at the channels you have open
[02:26] <DaZ> chrls: something like this should work too
[02:26] <bazhang> Linera, one of them is #ubuntu-ops
[02:26] <DaZ> either this way or piped
[02:26] <jmp_> alid, did u mounted it?
[02:26] <alid> jmp_: Yea. I did.
[02:26] <switch10_> ^phantom^: use xubuntu
[02:26] <kostkon> chrls, ls > out.txt && mplayer -playlist out.txt ?
[02:26] <^Phantom^> switch10_: What is xubuntu?
[02:27] <jmp_> alid, then look for that folder: /etc/grub.d
[02:27] <alid> jmp_: I'm in.
[02:27] <bazhang> Linera, within pidgin there are more than one channels open
[02:27] <jmp_> alid, ok you see the files
[02:27] <alid> Now what?
[02:27] <alid> Yea.
[02:28] <chrls> kostkon: I guess that would work, but is there no way to avoid temporary files? :)
[02:28] <AAAL> hello
[02:28] <alid> jmp_: ?
[02:28] <AAAL> Is there a jewish ubuntu?
[02:28] <AAAL> Is there a jewish ubuntu?
[02:28] <ctmjr> ^Phantom^: here this might help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[02:28] <^Phantom^> I'd google xubuntu right now, but I'm defragmenting the hard drive with Windows XP XD
[02:28] <kostkon> chrls, the obvious would be to try:  ls | mplayer -playlist  but I don't really know what will do :S
[02:28] <losha> chris: you could try: mplayer -playlist `ls`  <--- note backticks
[02:29] <jmp_> alid, let's edit the file 40_custom
[02:29] <alid> Sure jmp_
[02:29] <Jamed> !xubuntu | ^Phantom^
[02:29] <Alystair> woah
[02:29] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[02:29] <Young_N_Pretty> DCC SEND GNAAISBACKGNAAISBACKGNAAISBACKGNAAISBACKGNAAISBACKGNAAISBACK
[02:29] <^Phantom^> ctmjr and Jamed:  thank you.
[02:29] <jacob_> hi
[02:30] <jmp_> alid, do:sudo gedit 40_custom
[02:30] <xicistle> wow
[02:30] <jacob_> I try to plug in a microphone of mine into the mic jack
[02:30] <ironfoot495> Hello I lost localhost trying to install lamp I really need help google has not benn able to get me back up using tasksel???
[02:30] <jacob_> but ubuntu doesn' recognize it
[02:30] <bastid_raZor> jmp_: for graphical applications use gksudo
[02:30] <alid> OK jmp_.
[02:30] <chrls> kostkon: yeah. I tried that. :) it seems it needed a '-' at the end though
[02:31] <chrls> kostkon: but this is good now, it works. thanks. :)
[02:31] <jmp_> alid, you see the file
[02:31] <kostkon> chrls, :)
[02:31] <alid> Yes jmp_.
[02:31] <switch10_> jacob_: rigth click on your volume control, and go into sound prefs
[02:31] <switch10_> jacob_: it should be in there somewhere
[02:32] <jmp_> ok now you have to know the uuid of ur windows system
[02:32] <buttons840> c1 and c2 or c3   what is the order of operations of and and or?
[02:32] <jvasile> I am attempting to enable multicast in pulseaudio, but the option to enable multicast sender is greyed out in the device chooser.  How can I enable it? Thanks.
[02:32] <^Phantom^> Also, I want to try running ubuntu/xubuntu on just 10-13 GB.  Would that be able to work?
[02:32] <alid> jmp_: How should I know that?
[02:32] <buttons840> wrong chat.
[02:33] <jmp_> alid, go to another terminal, then : sudo fdisk -l
[02:33] <burzki> ^Phantom^, easily
[02:33] <^Phantom^> This hard drive is only 37.25GB in size.  And I intend to keep Windows XP dual-booted with (x)ubuntu.
[02:33] <alid> jmp_: uuid is the Id field?
[02:33] <lee> ^Phantom^: I just installed xubuntu (just, literally, five minutes ago) into a vm, the base install is using 2.4GB
[02:34] <jmp_> alid, no just write down The device boot
[02:34] <burzki> ^Phantom^, i have a full ubuntu on 6gb hdd
[02:34] <xicistle> phantom ... you can install ubuntu and xubuntu with windows on that machine
[02:34] <jmp_> alid, "dev/sda"
[02:34] <burzki> using less than half
[02:34] <nickkontos> hello, i just removed my graphics card... what do i need to do to enable extra visual effects using my on-board graphics card? ubuntu 9.10...
[02:35] <mazda01> i upgraded to 9.10 of mythbuntu and I am having serious desktop manager or X11 issues. I can't even see the start menu pull down on the top left of the screen. and my text is huge within the getty's. can anyone suggest anything
[02:35] <starcannon> what gpu is on your onboard card nickkontos?
[02:35] <nickkontos> an intel one...
[02:35] <alid> jmp_: Windows 7 creates a small partition at the beginning of the drive and use it for recovery purposes I guess. I do not know if I should use the actual drive or that small partition?
[02:35] <nickkontos> starcannon, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[02:36] <jmp_> alid, you should have an acer
[02:36] <jmp_> alid, I suppose
[02:36] <^Phantom^> Oh, something I've always wondered...does ubuntu fragment on a hard drive as bad as windows XP?
[02:36] <alid> jmp_: It's an IBM Thinkpad.
[02:36] <starcannon> nickkontos, remove your old drivers to start with(the ones for the card you removed), reboot, and see if it "just works" you may need to go into System>Preferences>Visual Effects and turn them on as well
[02:36] <jmp_> alid, ok but u should not use it
[02:37] <alid> jmp_: So, I'm gonna use the actual drive then?
[02:37] <nickkontos> starcannon, how can i remove them?
[02:37] <Jamed> ^Phantom^: no, you will never have to defragment a linux os. it won't fragment at all
[02:37] <alid> What next?
[02:37] <Firefishe> In ubuntu 8.10, how do I manually set up the DNS information?
[02:37] <^Phantom^> Jamed: that's awesome, thankies.
[02:38] <^Phantom^> Speaking of windows...
[02:38] <Nwallins> hi, does ubuntu minimal cd support wifi?
[02:38] <^Phantom^> brb
[02:38] <starcannon> nickkontos if you installed any drivers using the System>Administration>Hardware Drivers manager, then go in there and disable them. If not, then try turning visual effects on System>Preferences>Visual Effects, if that doesn't work then we'll move on from there
[02:38] <lee> Firefishe: easiest way, run: sudo NetworkManager
[02:38] <vvor> Firefishe: /etc/resolv.cnf
[02:39] <mazda01> i upgraded to 9.10 of mythbuntu and I am having serious desktop manager or X11 issues. I can't even see the start menu pull down on the top left of the screen. and my text is huge within the getty's. can anyone suggest anything
[02:39] <starcannon> nickkontos what is the output of -- glxinfo | direct --?
[02:39] <Nwallins> anyone know if i can use my wifi connection to download packages after minimal cd install?
[02:39] <jmp_> alid, ut there
[02:39] <starcannon> nickkontos what is the output of -- glxinfo | grep direct --?
[02:39] <alid> jmp_: Yes.
[02:40] <TeamColtra> how do I move all the files in a folder... up a level?
[02:40] <vvor> mazda01: ctl-alt-F1
[02:40] <starcannon> TeamColtra gui or cli?
[02:40] <jmp_> ok , what is the id of ur window disk
[02:40] <TeamColtra> (in terminal)
[02:40] <TeamColtra> sorry
[02:40] <lee> TeamColtra: mv * ..     ?
[02:40] <jmp_> alid, you got it
[02:40] <starcannon> +1 to lee's comment
[02:40] <vvor> mazda01: remove /etc/X11/xorg.cnf
[02:41] <alid> jmp_: Yes. /dev/sda2
[02:41] <mazda01> vvor, yeah, the text is ginormous. there's 3 words per line
[02:41] <TeamColtra> thanks lee
[02:41] <mazda01> vvor, i am in the xfce gui right now but i have no start menu (if i can call it that) and there  is no right-click context menu
[02:41] <edbian> lee, I though for sure there'd be a loop!
[02:41] <lee> TeamColtra: then manually move any dot files if they exist afterwards (ls -al   in the dir the files were originally in, then "mv .blah .." if necessary, ignore the one called ".")
[02:42] <jmp_> ok I will give the  file:
[02:42] <lee> there's probably an elegant way to handle that but it's approaching 3am =)
[02:42] <vvor> mazda01: ctl-alt-F1
[02:42] <jmp_> alid, give ur mail
[02:43] <vvor> mazda01: you need to go to cli
[02:43] <alid> jmp_<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:43] <lee> any ops around?
[02:43] <vvor> mazda01: remove the x config file and reeboot
[02:43] <mazda01> vvor, that'll solve the menu issue?
[02:44] <vvor> mazda01: if it will not try the visa cnf file rename it to xorg.cnf
[02:45] <jmp_> alid, I will give the answer by mail
[02:45] <Cunbuntu> Hello Ubuntu users!
[02:45] <alid> Thanks jmp_.
[02:45] <jmp_> alid, I'm a little busy know
[02:45] <bazhang> Cunbuntu, hi
[02:45] <lee> and goodbye =)
[02:45] <jmp_> alid, don''t format anything
[02:45] <alid> jmp_: I see. Appreciate it buddy.
[02:46] <Cunbuntu> I lubs me sum ubuntu!
[02:46] <Cunbuntu> Where I git it at?
[02:46] <bazhang> Cunbuntu, www.ubuntu.com
[02:46] <Guest26188> exit
[02:46] <Cunbuntu> dat beez tyte n sheiit!
[02:46] <Guest26188> exit
[02:46] <Guest26188> quit
[02:46] <Jamed> Guest26188: /quit
[02:47] <bazhang> Cunbuntu, please watch the language
[02:47] <Cunbuntu> Keep da faith brudda
[02:47] <Guest26188> Jamed: thx
[02:48] <sid_> em getting this error :::Could not find the file /media/7CD4B494D4B4525E/idpas.:::what does it mean and how to fix it???please help
[02:48] <dragon> sid_: how did you get this error?
[02:48] <NineTeen67Comet1> Hello .. I'm looking for ideas on what else to look at .. when I attempt to install it does the Loading linux ..... ready. .. then stops there .. Or, if I just boot it up it stops at "Starting Up"
[02:48] <sid_> dragon i removed the previous kernals
[02:49] <dragon> sid_: i mean, where are you seeing this error?
[02:49] <dragon> NineTeen67Comet1: what are you booting from?
[02:49] <sid_> dragon:at start up
[02:49] <NineTeen67Comet1> DVD/CD interal ..
[02:49] <NineTeen67Comet1> with the mini.iso ..
[02:50] <NineTeen67Comet1> or just from the IDE HDD when I get the "Starting up ..."  ..
[02:50] <dragon> sid_: is it not getting past that point?
[02:51] <sid_> dragon:nope wen i cancel it ,its not comig again
[02:51] <NineTeen67Comet1> Could it be a ram issue? Even if I choose rescue mode it stops at ready. after Loading initrd.gz ..
[02:51] <coz_> hey guys ... I am noticing that some images...particularly svg  images... are not showing up on the desktop...rather an icon shows up but not the preview
[02:52] <Davy> i've got a question about partitioning my harddrive so i can dual boot windows and ubuntu? can anyone help me out with that or send me in the right direction?
[02:52] <dragon> sid_: it's looking for a file on an external media that was probably inserted during a configuration. At what point do you get this error?
[02:52] <edbian> NineTeen67Comet1, Maybe the CD is scratched! :)  How fast is your CD drive??
[02:52] <dragon> !anyone | Davy
[02:52] <edbian> Davy, I can help you
[02:52] <edbian> Davy, It's noisy in here.  Do you wanna send me a personal message?
[02:52] <Davy> k
[02:52] <dragon> !pm | edbian
[02:52] <john__> how can i change my nickname? I'm a newbie
[02:52] <dragon> Davy: ^
[02:52] <sid_> dragon :i removed the previos kernels coz i was updated with the latest one....so after restarting i got this error
[02:53] <dragon> john__: /nick <nickname>
[02:53] <Jamed> john__: /nick <nickname>
[02:53] <coz_> here is a screenshot of what I mean.... notice the png previews but not svg   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/Screenshot.png
[02:53] <john__> thx
[02:53] <NineTeen67Comet1> edbian: I've burned a couple CD's .. tried a few cd players and it's a 54x (I burned one at 12 and another at 8 too) ..
[02:54] <edbian> NineTeen67Comet1, So the CD is fine then
[02:54] <dragon> sid_: not sure if this is a kernel issue. Could you pastebin the output of `dmesg`?
[02:54] <dragon> NineTeen67Comet1: If it were bad RAM, the system wouldn't turn on at all.
[02:54] <Dac-iPhone> Please help: im using a netbook remix of 9.04 and im unable to install 3rd-party apps. It gives me an error that says it's not compatible with "i386" or something. Can someone help?
[02:54] <redshadowhero> My friend can't get any of his audio sources to show up, neither in recording apps, or vlc. He gets sound regularly just fine, but he just can't capture it. Any idea what might be the issue?
[02:54] <dragon> NineTeen67Comet1: you still might want to pick a memtest option before booting.
[02:55] <sid_> dragonwell actually i donno how to get to that error::it just appers on starty up...well ill try
[02:55] <dragon> Dac-iPhone: how are you trying to install those?
[02:55] <NineTeen67Comet1> edbian: yeah .. the box also stops at "Starting up ..." when I try to just start it as normal .. I'm thinking it's a hard ware issue, just don't know where else to look besides HDD, Ram and CD ROM ..
[02:55] <mazda01> vvor, i moved xorg.conf and now i don't have an xorg.conf to edit. how to i tell X to use the nvidia drivers?
[02:55] <dragon> !sound | redshadowhero
[02:55] <Dac-iPhone> Through add/remove
[02:55] <Dac-iPhone> Synaptic doesn't work either.
[02:55] <Dac-iPhone> Nor sudo apt-get
[02:56] <Jamed> NineTeen67Comet1: if you can boot from a usb drive, you might want to try that, maybe it's an issue with your CD/DVD drive
[02:56] <dragon> Dac-iPhone: that's strange. Could you try installing something through apt-get and pastebin the output?
[02:56] <dragon> Jamed: I thought NineTeen67Comet1 mentioned HDD as well.
[02:56] <Dac-iPhone> I cant at the moment. I cant download xchat on the Linux machine, and im on my iPhone right now.
 NineTeen67Comet1: If it were bad RAM, the system wouldn't turn on at all.
[02:56] <edbian> NineTeen67Comet1, Just try unplugging one piece of hardware at a time and booting from a live CD.  I think it's probably the ram :)
[02:56] <danopia__> not always true
[02:57] <losha> NineTeen67Comet1: maybe I missed it, but which release is it you're trying to boot?
[02:57] <edbian> dragon, danopia__ is right
[02:57] <danopia__> the only kernel panics i ever had were due to bad RAM
[02:57] <danopia__> i didn't evne know until i ran a memtest
[02:57] <Jamed> dragon: coh didn't see that
[02:57] <dragon> danopia__, edbian: quite possible. A memtest would help.
[02:57] <Jamed> dragon: *oh
[02:57] <sid_> dragon:em not able to ::even the terminal is corrupted
[02:57] <danopia__> my 8.04 disk had memtest at the livecd menu, that made it easier
[02:58] <mazda01> i erased my xorg.conf and now I don't know what driver is running and I want to run the nvidia driver for my 6200. with this new Xorg, how do I tell it to use nvidia driver so I can then run nvidia-settings?
[02:58] <dragon> sid_: corrupted?
[02:58] <danopia__> mazda01, try nvidia-xconfig
[02:58] <sid_> dragon:its not opening
[02:58] <Dac-iPhone> The error apt-get gives me is E: Directory '/var/log/apt/' missing
[02:58] <mazda01> i upgraded from 9.04 to 9.10 and have X issues. previously i could always solve them by editing the xorg.conf file
[02:58] <losha> I agree with danopia__ Bad ram can cause all sorts of weird and unpredictable misbehaviour...
[02:58] <Joel> I've setup postfix, courier-imap, courier-auth, when I try to connect thunderbird it says invalid password, but in the logs I show it authing me correctly, anyone have any ideas what would cause this?
[02:58] <dragon> sid_: I understand that. What's the error message?
[02:58] <danopia__> Dac-iPhone, how did you manage that? you can probably make it again but other stuff might be missing
[02:58] <dragon> mazda01: sudo apt-get install nvidia-common
[02:59] <Dac-iPhone> This is a fresh install of 9.04 nbr
[02:59] <sid_> it just opens a small balnk screen
[02:59] <Dac-iPhone> Under the name EasyPeasy
[02:59] <sid_> dragon:it just opens a small balnk screen
[02:59] <chrls> is there a way to stop programs "hogging" audio? for instance, Flash on Chrome seems to not allow any other audio to run at the same time. the problems aren't limited to Flash, either
[02:59] <dragon> Dac-iPhone: are you using sudo?
[02:59] <Dac-iPhone> Yes
[02:59] <dragon> sid_: try running xterm
[02:59] <liuhai> :help
[02:59] <Joel> I've cranked up logging and it shows the proper password
[02:59] <liuhai> .help
[02:59] <mazda01> dragon, already installed. nvidia-xconfig worked.
[03:00] <dragon> !audio | chrls
[03:00] <mazda01> danopia__, thanks, now how do I restart X since the ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't do it anymore
[03:00] <sid_> dragon:same problem
[03:00] <riegersn> i have wifi set up and i can scan and see my router, but i can't seem to connect. when i set the essid then run dhclient. it scans for a bit then says 'no dhcpoffers' - what could be wrong? there is no key required to connect - any help would be appreciated (im on ubuntu cli system)
[03:00] <Dorkins> Hello
[03:00] <planktum_> the command rsync exits under user with this error: zsh: no matches found: no matter im invoking it with sudo
[03:00] <planktum_> the same command runs ok as root
[03:00] <dragon> mazda01: you shouldn't be zapping X any way. Go to a terminal and type `sudo service gdm restart`.
[03:01] <planktum_> could someone help me understand why is it that i can run rsync as user?
[03:01] <PrototypeX29A> re
[03:01] <danopia__> mazda01, umm...... you can, nvm
[03:01] <dragon> riegersn: are you sure the router's DHCP is on?
[03:01] <sid_> dragon:only the program in wich em chatting is opened ,everything else is not opening
[03:02] <dragon> sid_: did you reboot after that?
[03:02] <PrototypeX29A> so after i have tested the latest kernel, whether the wlan now is more stable, i had to notice that wlan is not working at all
[03:02] <burzki> liuhai, whats the question?
[03:02] <Dorkins> is there anyway to run ubuntu inside windows xp pro?
[03:02] <riegersn> dragon, im connected wirelessly from 3 other devices at the moment
[03:02] <microlith> Dorkins: vmware/virtualbox
[03:02] <Dorkins> ?
[03:02] <dragon> !wubi | Dorkins
[03:02] <sid_> dragon:restart after???
[03:02] <PrototypeX29A> even after i rebootet with the generic kernel wlan does not work. it seems something has changed the algorithm which selects the actice network is not working right
[03:02] <dragon> sid_: after you noticed this problem for the first time
[03:02] <dragon> !enter | PrototypeX29A
[03:03] <sid_> dragon:yes again it came the same
[03:03] <Dorkins> so i install ubuntu in wubi?
[03:03] <gotmilk82> help....I need to update my bios on my machine, but dell never made a bios updater for linux...I am kind of a newb....I tried to make a winpe boot usb, but that failed miserably....
[03:03] <PrototypeX29A> dragon: if I do it in one line irc will swallow it
[03:03] <^Phantom^> I am downloading xubuntu ^_^
[03:03] <dragon> sid_: hit Ctrl + Alt + F1, login and run `dmesg | pastebinit `
[03:04] <dragon> PrototypeX29A: I haven't heard that one before. IRC swallows lines?
[03:04] <PrototypeX29A> dragon: guess there is a maximum length
[03:04] <PrototypeX29A> it is then cut somewhere
[03:04] <Dac-iPhone> Still there, dragon?
[03:04] <^Phantom^> Thankies
[03:04] <fizk__> Does anyone know how why my Ubuntu/Windows 7 duel boot always returns to the Grub 2 menu for Win7?
[03:04] <fizk__> It's always been like this, I hoped Grub2 would be better
[03:04] <RobbieThe1st> I'm having trouble installing PureFTPD on a Ubuntu 9.04 VPS - It installs, but I see: "Running: /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd -l pam -O clf:/var/log/pure-ftpd/transfer.log -u 1000 -E -B" and then "invoke-rc.d: initscript pure-ftpd, action "start" failed." Any ideas?
[03:04] <dragon> PrototypeX29A: it's hard to follow what you're saying because of the disconnected messages. Try typing longer.
[03:05] <fizk__> update-grub even found the OS boot info for Win 7
[03:05] <Dorkins> well then. i guess no help
[03:05] <gotmilk82> well the winpe bootable usb worked fine, but it wanted to install win 7 which is not what I had in mind.  I just wanted to install the one BIOS updater from dell
[03:05] <losha> planktum_: so what are you typing, exactly?
[03:05] <xicistle> how do I pass kernel options with grub2?
[03:05] <PrototypeX29A> now to my question. Does specific kernel possibly change the settings of the network so that in another sessions (with generic kernel) wlan will not work anymore?
[03:06] <dragon> Dac-iPhone: No clue what's wrong. I might be able to help further if you pastebin the output of apt-get.
[03:06] <kitty_> looking for someone familiar with Kmyfirewall, software routing, and multiple network interfaces
[03:06] <centHOGG> !Kmyfirewall
[03:06] <dragon> PrototypeX29A: It doesn't change settings that way.
[03:06] <edbian> PrototypeX29A, The kernel you choose determines directly what hardware drivers are available and which are used.  It is possible that some generic kernel does not handle your wlan card correctly
[03:06] <sid_> dragon:nothing worked
[03:07] <dragon> sid_: that's bad.
[03:07] <burzki> PrototypeX29A, possibly. though i dont know that anything should change.  there are netwrok changes in the kernel for 9.10
[03:07] <PrototypeX29A> edbian: it has worked before
[03:07] <planktum_> losha, hi zsh: no matches found: --exclude=/proc/*
[03:07] <dragon> xicistle: /etc/default/grub
[03:07] <magic_ninja> hmm
[03:07] <Dorkins> I just LOVE all the help I'm getting. :(
[03:07] <magic_ninja> so here is an interesting scenario
[03:07] <Dac-iPhone> No worries mate. I'll come back later.
[03:07] <sid_> dragon:ya really ..nothing is opening
[03:07] <PrototypeX29A> i was using wlan with 9.10 before, now it is (completely) broken
[03:07] <edbian> PrototypeX29A, I can't say for sure if that is the reason.  I'm just saying it is possible for a kernel to effect how hardware works (although it doesn't seem like it should :) )
[03:07] <xicistle> dragon ... and then I run grub-update?
[03:07] <planktum_> losha, seems i have to deal in a particular way with the * else zsh will exit
[03:08] <sid_> dragon:how now???
[03:08] <dragon> !who | Dorkins
[03:08] <^Phantom^> Do you guys give support for xubuntu installation process?
[03:08] <burzki> Dorkins, looked to me like your question was answered ..
[03:08] <dragon> sid_: no idea
[03:08] <dragon> xicistle: I think so
[03:08] <magic_ninja> i have this external drive with windows 7 installer-->ubuntu installer-->500 meg swap-->data storage, i need to get grub configured on the mbr of the external drive to load windows installer or linux installer based on choice, any ideas on where to start with that
[03:08] <PrototypeX29A> edbian: i just was insisting, that it is not only the choice of the one kernel alone, that causes the problem
[03:08] <sid_> em getting this error :::Could not find the file /media/7CD4B494D4B4525E/idpas.:::what does it mean and how to fix it???please help
[03:08] <dragon> Dorkins: did you read the wubi documentation in those links?
[03:08] <sid_> dragon:thanks any way
[03:09] <graelb> Hi all
[03:09] <^Phantom^> Do I need to partition my drive from within windows?
[03:09] <dragon> sid_: np
[03:09] <losha> planktum_: so what does echo /proc/* report when run as the user, and compare it to when run as sudo
[03:09] <^Phantom^> So many questions!  I feel like a noob again :S
[03:09] <edbian> PrototypeX29A, I don't know what you mean?  it is not only the choice of the one kernel?  As opposed to 2 kernels?
[03:09] <graelb> I need help with something, but i'm not sure if anyone here can help. I need some help with wine and a game. Is there a wine channel i can use? or should i just ask my question here?
[03:09] <dragon> ^Phantom^: no, you don't need to partition it that way. What kind of partition config are you planning to have?
[03:09] <Dorkins> :(
[03:09] <PrototypeX29A> edbian: 2.6.16-generic did work. now it does not anymore
[03:09] <xicistle> dragon ... Ive tried this before .. I added the line acpi="linux" to /etc/default/grub
[03:09] <^Phantom^> dragon: 10GB for xubuntu, the rest will stay with windows
[03:10] <planktum_> losha, just added \* and it works under user
[03:10] <xicistle> dragon ... and then I ran grub-update
[03:10] <^Phantom^> dragon: So I'll be dual-booting windows and xubuntu
[03:10] <edbian> PrototypeX29A, Well if the kernel didn't change before or after the problem than it's pretty obvious it didn't cause the problem :)
[03:10] <dragon> ^Phantom^: you might also want to create a third partition for data. That really helps when any of the OS goes bad.
[03:10] <PrototypeX29A> edbian: i used another kernel in between
[03:10] <losha> planktum_: doesn't sudo run bash by default i.e. you're using two different shells....
[03:10] <PrototypeX29A> edbian: it didn't work then, but it still does not work now
[03:11] <edbian> PrototypeX29A, OIC, so you switched back!  Check something real quick.  Does the card show up in your bios?
[03:11] <^Phantom^> This laptop is an "on-the-go" laptop, so I don't keep any critical or important data on it
[03:11] <Dorkins> such lovely help :(
[03:11] <PrototypeX29A> edbian: how do i do that?
[03:11] <^Phantom^> So if something goes wrong, then I'll just start over from scratch :D
[03:11] <dragon> ^Phantom^: Boot from a LiveCD or LiveUSB, run gparted and resize your existing windows partition, and create new partitions as you want to.
[03:11] <^Phantom^> dragon: sweet, thankies
[03:11] <losha> planktum_: oops. Forget that. The * should be expanded on the command line by zsh in both cases. Dunno why they're different then...
[03:11] <RobbieThe1st> I'm having trouble installing PureFTPD on a Ubuntu 9.04 VPS - It installs, but I see: "Running: /usr/sbin/pure-ftpd -l pam -O clf:/var/log/pure-ftpd/transfer.log -u 1000 -E -B" and then "invoke-rc.d: initscript pure-ftpd, action "start" failed." Any ideas?
[03:11] <^Phantom^> livecd is 20% done ^_^
[03:11] <PrototypeX29A> edbian: i think the wlan is recognized, even by the os. But it is disconnect by purpose
[03:12] <dragon> ^Phantom^: during installation, choose to assign partitions manually
[03:12]  * ^Phantom^ goes digging for a blank CD
[03:12] <planktum_> losha, thanks anyway your explanation help me understand the issue
[03:12] <edbian> PrototypeX29A, does it show up in "sudo lspci" ?
[03:12] <ctmjr> Dorkins: whats your guetion?
[03:12] <dragon> ^Phantom^: LiveUSBs are easier in my opinion
[03:12] <planktum_> losha, but so far, as it runs oke, then im fine
[03:12] <losha> planktum_: wish I could say I understood it properly myself :-)
[03:12] <dragon> ^Phantom^: but passing on the CD would be good too
[03:13] <^Phantom^> dragon: no usb flashdrives heh
[03:13] <^Phantom^> so brb wile i go fish out a blank
[03:13] <burzki> PrototypeX29A, what is the new kernel you upped to?
[03:13] <dragon> Dorkins: stop being a pessimistic sarcastic whiny kid and get it straight. What's your question?
[03:14] <Dorkins> is there anyway to run ubuntu inside windows xp pro?
[03:14] <dragon> Dorkins: if you talk to someone without saying their name first, no one will respond.
[03:14] <xicistle> wubi
[03:14] <centHOGG> vmware
[03:14] <dragon> Dorkins: what do you mean by inside?
[03:14] <PrototypeX29A> edbian: it does
[03:14] <ctmjr> !wubi
[03:14] <PrototypeX29A> burzki: i was up to the _current_ karmic from the git
[03:14] <Dorkins> run it within windows xp pro
[03:14] <xicistle> dorkins ... http://wubi-installer.org/
[03:14] <PrototypeX29A> burzki: now i am back to generic
[03:15] <dragon> Dorkins: I'm not responding if you don't say my name.
[03:15] <PrototypeX29A> http://pastebin.com/m5125623c here it says it disconnected by choice
[03:15] <Dorkins> so i install ubuntu inside this wubi thing?
[03:15] <burzki> PrototypeX29A, was the network up on the karmic kenrel originally?
[03:15] <xicistle> Dorkins: you are better off burning a live CD then running inside windows
[03:15] <^Phantom^> dragon: eep the only blank i have is a music cdr
[03:15] <dragon> Dorkins: You're liable for messages that you send in air.
[03:15] <^Phantom^> hope this works
[03:15] <^Phantom^> lol
[03:15] <dragon> Dorkins: begone
[03:15] <PrototypeX29A> burzki: yes it was
[03:15] <dragon> ^Phantom^: good luck
[03:15] <^Phantom^> dragon: thanks
[03:16] <^Phantom^> i've done it with a music cdr before
[03:16] <PrototypeX29A> burzki: with some kerneloops now and then, but it was running. (I do not think there is a connection between these problems)
[03:16] <^Phantom^> doesn't matter what the cdr says does it?
[03:16] <^Phantom^> music data they're all the same thing on the insides right?
[03:16] <Um_cara_qualquer> does anyone knows an C/C++ interface compiler for linux?
[03:16] <dragon> ^Phantom^: they're all same. It's a marketing thing.
[03:16] <^Phantom^> @ dragon
[03:16] <Dorkins> so i install ubuntu inside this wubi thing?
[03:16] <fizk__> WIll Win7/Vista boot if it's /dev/sda2  instead of sda1 ?
[03:16] <^Phantom^> dragon: sweet thanies :D
[03:16] <Dorkins> well?
[03:16] <^Phantom^> thankies*
[03:17] <^Phantom^> be back when i'm ready to install :D
[03:17] <xicistle> dorkins is a chat-bot ... ban him
[03:17] <^Phantom^> i can't join with my other comuter though
[03:17] <PrototypeX29A> burzki, edbian: the wlan adapter is shown in the admin-tools, but i cannot connect
[03:17] <^Phantom^> i have a script that i use and i am still forwarded to the ops channel for it i think lol
[03:17] <^Phantom^> no scripts on this machine
[03:18] <burzki> Dorkins, better to run a live cd from windows like xicistle mentioned
[03:18] <PrototypeX29A> burzki, edbian: it looks like ipv4 is disabled for some reason
[03:18] <edbian> PrototypeX29A, Well that's odd... You def need that
[03:18] <burzki> PrototypeX29A, check your drivers are still in place
[03:19] <edbian> PrototypeX29A, Unless you have a ipv6 network
[03:19] <PrototypeX29A> edbian: no i have nbot
[03:19] <ctmjr> ^Phantom^: if you bring them a box of cookies they might forgive you
[03:19] <Dorkins> I just want to run ubuntu inside windows.
[03:19] <riegersn> dragon, im connected wirelessly from 3 other devices at the moment - checked my router and yes dhcp is enabled
[03:19] <PrototypeX29A> burzki: where should i look after them?
[03:19] <Dorkins> not outside windows
[03:19] <burzki> ^Phantom^, use a clean cd, not one that has had other data on it already
[03:19] <gotmilk82> I could never get it to get into anything that resembled dos and I could not find a way to start the DELLBIOSUPDATER.exe instead of the setup.exe they had. I changed the autoblah, but no dice :(
[03:19] <edbian> PrototypeX29A, lspci -k shows what module you're using for what device right now
[03:19] <xicistle> dorkins: why would you want to run linux inside of windows?
[03:20] <burzki> Dorkins, burn a liveCD, boot up windows, insert cd.  go
[03:20] <Dorkins> cuz I don't know linux and don't want to run on only linux
[03:20] <edbian> xicistle, So that you don't have to re-start the machine to use it
[03:20] <PrototypeX29A> edbian: Kernbnel driver in use: ath9k
[03:20] <^Phantom^> 40% done with live iso :D
[03:21] <burzki> xicistle, and to learn it
[03:21] <brian_> hey my mouse has 4 buttons so i want to change the "simulate middle click" to my button 2  how can i do this so i can paste with button 2 insted of a middle click
[03:21] <dragon> burzki, xicistle, edbian: I'm helping Dorkins in a private message. He isn't acknowledging replies here.
[03:21] <edbian> PrototypeX29A, so there is a module being used.  Unfortunately I have no idea how to tell what the right one should be.  You can google to see if there are others.  It's hard to do this.  In my opinion it is too hard but I don't have the expertise to fix the code
[03:22] <edbian> dragon, I'm not talking to him?
[03:22] <xicistle> dragon: your patience amazes me
[03:22] <burzki> dragon, got it
[03:22] <dragon> edbian: in a PM? don't know.
[03:22] <ctmjr> Dorkins: read this link on how to do what you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[03:23] <PrototypeX29A> edbian: maybe the compilation process of the other kernel did mess things up
[03:23] <Bookman> I am trying to use the USB startup creator with a USB stick and it says that it has to format it before use.  I try to format it and it disappears.  IT is the same usb stick that I installed 9.10 with so I know it works.
[03:23] <PrototypeX29A> edbian: i will try do deinstall the package
[03:24] <burzki> PrototypeX29A, sorry.  a bit busy over here.  thx edbian
[03:24] <xicistle> Bookman: stuff breaks ... does it work on other machines?
[03:24] <edbian> burzki, You're welcome?
[03:25] <edbian> PrototypeX29A, It's worth a shot
[03:25] <burzki> edbian, maybe PrototypeX29A is ..
[03:25] <vvor> mazda01: hi how did it go
[03:25] <Bookman> xicistle, yeah well everything breaks with 9.10.  sound, amd bridge driver, cups...the list goes on and on.
[03:26] <xicistle> Bookman: can I PM you?
[03:27] <Bookman> Go nuts
[03:27] <dragon> what's the simplest way (for that kid) to create a virtual machine?
[03:27] <quietone> anyone help with the sound preferences in 9.10?
[03:28] <xicistle> dragon: crayons and a cardboard box
[03:28] <quietone> oop, I mean I want to use the sound pref app from 9.04. how do I change it?
[03:28] <mazda01> vvor, didn't fix desktop problem. i need to know how to change the default session through a conf file, i have no menu to access it the way I would normally
[03:28] <dragon> xicistle: lol
[03:28] <Bookman> xicistle, go nuts
[03:28] <xicistle> dragon ... I would push the live cd on him ... he will be happier because it wont lag so hard
[03:29] <dragon> xicistle: he wants to run both Windoze and Linux at the same time
[03:29] <vvor> mazda01: do you use gdm kdm
[03:29] <xicistle> dragon ...  then wubi is the fastest route for him to do that ... although I dont think he will like it
[03:30] <dragon> xicistle: wubi would involve booting into ubuntu - i tried but he doesn't want that either.
[03:30] <mazda01> vvor, gdm
[03:30] <dragon> xicistle: I know wubi is perfect for his situation
[03:30] <PrototypeX29A> hooray, at least my wlan is working again
[03:30] <xicistle> dragon: doesn't the live CD act as a vm when inserted into a windows machine anyway?
[03:30] <mazda01> vvor, in mythbuntu. i am also noticing after upgrade icon
[03:31] <vvor> mazda01: so tou should have at the buttom aplce to switch wm
[03:31] <mazda01> 's are missing. i am in mythbuntu-control-center and the upgrade icon isn't there
[03:31] <dragon> xicistle: no, one has to reboot - it's a bootable CD
[03:31] <mazda01> vvor, i am looking in mythbuntu-control-center now. i thought mythbuntu-control-center still had a start menu when not in mythfrontend though
[03:31] <islington> mazda01: you want to set default session without using gui?
[03:31] <xicistle> dragon ... the kid has it all wrong ... its way more interesting to run windows on a virtual linux machine
[03:32] <dragon> xicistle: +1
[03:32] <uneone> HI
[03:32] <dragon> !hi | uneone
[03:32] <uneone> HABLAS ESPANOL?
[03:32] <islington> mazda01: your configuration file should be in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[03:32] <PrototypeX29A> so something in my custom kernel deb was causing, even with the generic kernel, my ipv4 for wlan to stumble. is there a way to find out what?
[03:32] <dragon> !es | uneone
[03:32] <maco> !es | Eneloop
[03:32] <bodi> ?
[03:32] <maco> typing fail
[03:33] <^Phantom^> dragon: my cat is playing with feet
[03:33] <xicistle> dragon ... I think the best thing to do is to convince him that he has no reason to want to VM with windows..
[03:33] <uneone> OK
[03:33] <^Phantom^> dragon: it tickles SO DANG BAD
[03:33] <bastid_raZor> maco: A for effort?
[03:33] <dragon> ^Phantom^: let's keep it on topic
[03:33] <^Phantom^> Sorry.
[03:33] <dragon> xicistle: I tried :P
[03:33] <^Phantom^> I thought it was relevant since I just accidentally kneed the laptop while he was doing so. :P
[03:34] <mazda01> islington, under mythbuntu-control-center the system role button, shows ubuntu desktop being installed and nothing else but there is no way that ubuntu-desktop is running. i have no start menu, no login screen-it's auto logging me in. i ahve upgraded dist's several times, added mythbuntu so I am guessing that stuff is whacked
[03:34] <dragon> xicistle: I've told him about virtualbox now and warned him that no one would respond if he did the same again
[03:34] <^Phantom^> mmm...virtualbx
[03:34] <^Phantom^> I use virtualbox all the time.
[03:34] <islington> mazda01: you have access to terminal?
[03:34] <bodi> ?
[03:35] <mazda01> islington, yes, by adding a command to the panel on the top. i rememberd it was gnome-terminal.
[03:35] <danopia__> i use vmware because it's more of a daemon
[03:35] <mazda01> islington, i don't have a /etc/gdm.conf file
[03:35] <islington> mazda01: okay then see if /etc/gdm exists
[03:35] <Danielpk> Guys, sry for noob question.. i have Ubuntu runnig at Virtual Box at Windows 7. I can access pages via browser writing IP of Ubuntu, but when i go at Network i cant see the virtual machine at Workgroup. How i can fix it?
[03:35] <mazda01> islington, it does.
[03:36] <islington> in gdm? what files are there?
[03:36] <^Phantom^> dragon: 65% done.  I can't wait.
[03:36] <islington> do an ls
[03:36] <pspfreak> hey guys, whenever I install ubuntu, the login manager seems to not work. I checked the intigrity of the disk also. It has happened every single install, even trying 3 cds
[03:36] <dragon> Danielpk: which "go to Network" are you talking about?
[03:37] <webbb82> hey
[03:37] <mazda01> islington, i just tried gksudo gdmsetup and it brings up a little box about auto loging in and what not, and it has an unlock button, i hit that but the check boxes don't ungrey themselkves?
[03:37] <burzki> PrototypeX29A, one of the changes being made in the kernel is how drivers, ie wifi, work in the system.  so driver data gets changed from kernel to kernel and would blacklist old versions (drivers) to get tham out of the way.  or something like that.
[03:37] <Danielpk> dragon, where show all machines from network.
[03:37] <dragon> pspfreak: what do you mean by "not work"?
[03:37] <dragon> Danielpk: In Windows?
[03:37] <islington> mazda01: just fix it in the conf file, do this
[03:37] <mazda01> islington, ok
[03:37] <pspfreak> it will get stuck at the ubuntu screen after the boot.
[03:37] <islington> mazda01: open a new fresh terminal
[03:37] <bodi> I am rumming ubuntu 9.1 and want to do a dual boot with backtrack 4 , I tried it once and wammo ubuntu gone lol what is the proper way ? I know this is a ubuntu chat but i can;find any topics any where else
[03:37] <webbb82> is there a way to paste txt with a hot key  , i have a 4 button mouse so i cant paste highlighted txt with the middle click
[03:37] <Danielpk> dragon, yes, at Win7
[03:38] <dragon> Danielpk: That's a Windows-specific question. Try ##windows
[03:38] <Danielpk> Humm.. ok.
[03:38] <jrib> webbb82: shift-insert
[03:38] <Danielpk> Thx
[03:38] <islington> mazda01: type in "sudo gedit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf"
[03:38] <burzki> PrototypeX29A, to know exactly what that was, you would have to follow the changelogs - closely .. my general notion is dont fix whats not broke ;-)
[03:38] <dragon> pspfreak: Are you able to switch the vt? Ctrl+Alt+F1
[03:38] <webbb82> what one is the incert
[03:38] <PrototypeX29A> burzki: yes, but the problem does not seem to lie within the kernel, but in the .deb
[03:38] <webbb82> o i found it
[03:38] <mazda01> islington, i will do gksudo but ok, im with you
[03:38] <jrib> webbb82: also, you can enable middle-click emulation and just left and right click simeltaneously.  The insert button is by PageUp and PageDown usually
[03:38] <PrototypeX29A> burzki: but it is broken :)
[03:38] <pspfreak> I dont know. But is there a way I could make it auto log on? When I click the unlock button it doesn't do anything
[03:39] <webbb82> ok well is it possible to change the hot key
[03:39] <islington> mazda01: either way
[03:39] <pspfreak> could I do it from config files?
[03:39] <dragon> pspfreak: there's no unlock on login screen.
[03:39] <jrib> webbb82: probably, but I don't know how?
[03:39] <bastid_raZor> !gksudo | islington
[03:39] <PrototypeX29A> burzki: i am struggling for days to get my system running, i think there is a bug in the kernel
[03:39] <mazda01> islington, listening
[03:39] <Pelo> anyone know a way other then using cups to send a signal to a printer to make sure everything works properly ?
[03:39] <jrib> webbb82: a kludy way is to just bind a key to the proper « xclip » command
[03:39] <burzki> PrototypeX29A, well .. who knows what changes .. much still a mystery to me .. glad you got it back.  leave well enough alone maybe
[03:39] <bodi> psp i seen a forum somewhere on chaning password or turning it off somewhere
[03:39] <jrib> kludgy even
[03:40] <islington> kk, what are you seeing in the gedit that opened up, mazda01?
[03:40] <pspfreak> dragan: I am talking about if you go to System>Administrattion, login screen
[03:40] <pspfreak> bodi: I know my pass, it is just a weird problem
[03:40] <PrototypeX29A> burzki: the generic kernel is not working for me
[03:40] <PrototypeX29A> burzki: that is why i wanted to replace it in the first place
[03:40] <webbb82> jrib, i dont like to hit the first and last button to paste
[03:40] <islington> mazda01: you see text? blank file?
[03:40] <jrib> webbb82: that's fine
[03:40] <dragon> pspfreak: there's an auto-login option
[03:41] <mazda01> islington, a blank text file since I told you that gdm.conf didn't exist. I am familar with linux for the most part. this does have me stumped though. why would my gdm.conf file have gone away
[03:41] <pspfreak> I know, but when I click unlock, it doesn't do anything
[03:41] <jvasile> Pelo, cat textfile.txt > /dev/lp or some such
[03:41] <mazda01> islington, maybe mythbuntu uses something else besides gdm
[03:41] <islington> mazda01: that is odd.
[03:41] <Pelo> jvasile, thanks I'll give it a go
[03:41] <jvasile> np
[03:41] <dragon> pspfreak: it should show an unlock dialog box. If it doesn't discuss it in #ubuntu-bugs and then file a bug.
[03:41] <mazda01> islington, what is xdg, do you know?
[03:41] <islington> mazda01: it probably uses the xfce
[03:42] <^Phantom^> dragon: phantomLink is me...
[03:42] <pspfreak> It doesn't, but is there a way I could change it via a conf file?
[03:42] <PrototypeX29A> burzki: i guess, i will have to redo the process and document it, if it happens again i will do a bug report
[03:42] <mazda01> islington, which is xdm?
[03:42] <webbb82> jrib, how do i bind a key to xclip
[03:42] <jvasile> Pelo, you might have to manually do a page feed to actually get the page to print
[03:42] <mazda01> islington, nope, no xdm either
[03:42] <dragon> ^Phantom^: can't do PM, I'm a little busy here. This room would help you out better.
[03:42] <ctmjr> mazda01: mythbuntus default is xfce
[03:42] <Pelo> jvasile, ?
[03:42] <vvor> mazda01: what did you upgrade from and/or to?
[03:42] <^Phantom^> dragon: okay i'll go talk to the ops
[03:43] <drbanzai> Anybody have a guess as to how well a Pentium 266 will work as nothing more then a remote rsync server?
[03:43] <jrib> webbb82: you can use for example xbindkeys
[03:43] <pspfreak> can I change it via config files?
[03:44] <mazda01> vvor, from 9.04 ubuntu with mythbuntu installed to 9.10 (whatever it did?) I orginally started with feisty and have upgraded dist's over time, then installed mytyhbuntu into 9.04 but thought I got rid of it and was running ubuntu-desktop, now upgraded and am here
[03:44] <islington> mazda01: okay shot in the dark here, but what happens when you install gdm?
[03:44] <dragon> drbanzai: install ubuntu-server on it and configure it properly. It should do the job well.
[03:44] <jrib> !away > berrybarry|away
[03:44] <pspfreak> were can I get ubuntu 9.04 instead?
[03:44] <drbanzai> dragon, Cool, thanks.
[03:45] <mazda01> islington, according to aptitude, gdm 2.28.1-0ubuntu2.1 is already installed
[03:45] <PhantomLink> dragon:
[03:45] <sebsebseb> pspfreak: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04  and I suggest md5sum/sha1suming or both your ISO before burning the contents to CD as well
[03:45] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | pspfreak
[03:45] <pspfreak> thanks
[03:46] <pspfreak> I'm going to go to 9.04 untill 9.10 bugs are fixed
[03:46] <Pelo> jvasile, thanks, that did the job , sort of, I now know it's not a problem with cups
[03:46] <vvor> mazda01: do you want mythubuntu or ubuntu now?
[03:46] <mazda01> vvor, ubuntu
[03:46] <mazda01> vvor, but i already checked. ubuntu-desktop is already installed
[03:46] <islington> mazda01: does this file exist? /etc/gdm/gdm-cdd.conf
[03:46] <jvasile> Pelo, glad it worked
[03:46] <pspfreak> is there a faster server? I am getting like 500KB a sec.
[03:47] <sebsebseb> pspfreak: well 10.04 comes out at the end of April
[03:47] <chu_> Hey, I recently set my Karmic install to auto-login for me, the problem is it always asks for my password anyway to activate the wireless... I've tried looking for the key-chain program from Jaunty, but can't find it. Does anyone have any ideas?
[03:47] <Pelo> jvasile, it didn'T work which is the point , worked on lp0 but not on lp1 , which is bugging the heck out of me
[03:47] <pspfreak> Ok. Bye
[03:47] <islington> mazda01: or possibly  /etc/gdm/custom.conf?
[03:47] <PrototypeX29A> is there a way to see what scritps are executed by a deb-package?
[03:47] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: read the source package?
[03:47] <jvasile> Pelo, ah.  Sorry to hear that.  I haven't debugged a printer in years, though, so I can't really provide much help.
[03:47] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: the source package?
[03:48] <webbb82> jrib, i read that the command to paste highlighted txt is pastie.rb    but i made it a hotkey and i get a error message
[03:48] <jrib> !source | PrototypeX29A
[03:48] <PrototypeX29A> ubottu: i generated the deb myself with make-kpkg
[03:48] <jrib> webbb82: I don't know about pastie.rb, only about xclip...
[03:48] <mazda01> islington, yeap, custom.conf is there and when I look in there, it already has DefaultSession=gnome.desktop
[03:48] <mazda01> islington, no on the gdm-cdd.conf
[03:48] <PrototypeX29A> well @jrib i guess
[03:49] <Pelo> jvasile, it's not the printer that is the issue, If I still had windows installed I could check it the problem was with the pci card or with the kernel,  but I don'T I'M gonna have to find another way to go about it, but thanks for the help
[03:49] <islington> mazda01: yes what is the TimedLoginEnable set to?
[03:49] <webbb82> jrib, so xclip is the command to paste high lighted txt?
[03:49] <DarkWell> what is the partitioning tool available per default in the latest liveCD ? fsdisk didnt seem to exist on the liveboot
[03:50] <dragon> DarkWell: gparted
[03:50] <mazda01> islington, there is no graphocal theme set though. http://pastebin.com/f5858817e
[03:50] <DarkWell> ok
[03:50] <mazda01> islington, check out the pastebin
[03:50] <DarkWell> found parted
[03:50] <jrib> webbb82: xclip with the proper arguments, sure
[03:50] <ctmjr>  chu_ are you using the network applet in the panel?
[03:50] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: read make-kpkg's documentation I guess?  Or explain what you are actually trying to accomplish
[03:50] <jrib> !kernel > PrototypeX29A
[03:51] <mazda01> islington,i just changed the autologin to false and noticed that there is a graphocal theme set. let me restart gdm. brb
[03:51] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: i read the tutorials, but i don't think it does work correctly
[03:51] <halenacam>  add  me<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:51] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: you're being too vague for me to help you
[03:52] <PhantomLink> WOOHOO dragon i'm about to burn the livecd so i'll be back once I'm ready to install ^_^
[03:52] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: i was asking how i can examine which scripts are executed, when a deb is installed
[03:52] <PrototypeX29A> jrib: like "exactly"
[03:53] <dragon> !troll > halenacam
[03:53] <vvor> mazda01: did you dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[03:53] <mazda01> vvor, yes, that did nothing
[03:54] <jrib> PrototypeX29A: the best way is to read the source package.  You can also extract all the .prerm scripts and such using dpkg but I don't know the command offhand
[03:54] <mazda01> vvor, just brought me back to same command prompt with nothing to do
[03:54] <mazda01> vvor, even ran it as root as required
[03:54] <vvor> ok do a rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity and you get a new gnome
[03:55] <mazda01> islington, still didn't work. i have no start menu, have no idea what desktop manager i am running. it appears to look like xfce but can't tell
[03:55] <Xpistos> I need a little help setting permissions on an sshfs share from my server. I can't delete anything from the file from my local machine. Can someone give me a hand?
[03:55] <islington> yeah you are running xfce mazda01
[03:55] <mazda01> islington, it is xfce but I want gnome-desktop to run. what gives?
[03:55] <PhantomLink> dragon: it's kinda funny, i have like 100 blank dvds but no blank cds
[03:55] <nytek_> mazda01: have you tried starting xfce?
[03:55] <PhantomLink> (just goes to show that cds are starting to become a thing of the past)
[03:55] <dragon> !ot | Phantom
[03:55] <fizk__> WIll Win7/Vista boot if it's /dev/sda2  instead of sda1 ?
[03:55] <mazda01> islington, xfce still has a start menu, at least mythbuntu 9.04 did!!!
[03:56] <nytek_> mazda01: if you want gnome-desktop, then use apt-get to install it