[03:47] <nottha_k> RivitingOne: my honest recommendations are 1) just use windows to play games. 2) if you insist on using linux, use an nvidia card. 3) If you insist on using linux and on usixng ati Don't play games anymore :). I chose number 3 for myself.
[03:47] <Gracenotes> !automate
[03:47] <phrostbite> in the k3b copy cd options it has copy cd or clone cd. What is the differance?
[03:47] <nbeebo> rivitingone, i use ati and it works, just so u know
[03:48] <elementz> i googled allready but that did not help much, seems to have to do with pulse audio
[03:48] <elementz> can anybody make something of that error message?
[03:48] <RivitingOne> nbeebo: sad face.... I hate to hear that. I was really hoping to be able to leave windows behind but my wife and I really enjoy playing together so I guess open source isn't quite ready for me, or the other way around.
[03:49] <lgc> pjKevin, please precede your answer to me with "lgc", not "igc".
[03:49] <nbeebo> rivitingone, i mean, ur drivers arent set up correct...
[03:49] <elementz> strangely i actually do get audio, but now video
[03:50] <nottha_k> RivitingOne: like neebo said, you can get it to work. I'm just saying it can be a big pain in the ass, and not always worth your time.
[03:50] <nbeebo> rivitingone, maybe ur open source drivers didnt work, and others didnt replace
[03:50] <lgc> pjKevin, you need a terminal in order to enter commands. Get one from Apps->Accesories.
[03:50] <pjKevin> lgc, sorry
[03:50] <pjKevin> lgc, k
[03:51] <elementz> guess i'll have to come back later
[03:51] <pjKevin> lgc, i got it working :)
[03:51] <jordan_> how do i make cp copy a directoy?
[03:51] <RivitingOne> nbeebo: did you say you use the proprietary drivers? If there was a guide that was up to date and correct I could follow it but every time I find one it contradicts another or is old...
[03:51] <Chrisie> elementz: what driver do you have mplayer set to use?  right click on mplayer , the Preferences menu and the Video tab
[03:51] <pjKevin> lgc, i installed pysdm
[03:51] <lgc> pjKevin, good!
[03:52] <abarbaccia> jordan_: its cp -r but you should type 'man cp' to get the manual page on any command - they're the best source on how to use tools
[03:52] <pjKevin> lgc, thanks for giving me your time
[03:52] <elementz> Chrisie: i normally run it from console
[03:52] <jordan_> just there abarbaccia didn't like it
[03:52] <nbeebo> rivitingone, not using anything at the moment, but i had it working with it before i reinstalled...
[03:52] <kestrel> jordan_, cp -r source destination
[03:52] <nbeebo> rivitingone, oh forgot the question...
[03:53] <abarbaccia> jordan_: thats the KEY to learning how to use the command line - you'll get used to it - takes some time to understand the format
[03:53] <nbeebo> rivitingone, what works is clicking the icon in the systray on a fresh install to enable proprietary drivers then install
[03:53] <RivitingOne> nottha_k: I really want to be able to stay just with ubuntu. It isn't a matter of willingness to put in the time. Its more a lack of direction, information and I am realizing a whole lot of understanding
[03:54] <Chrisie> elementz: try using a different driver with the -vo option
[03:54] <nbeebo> nbeebo, u could fix it anyway, but that would be the fastest if ur not really lucky..
[03:54] <sketch_> rivitingone use virtualbox wine or vmware
[03:54] <docbob> !rules
[03:54] <kestrel> jordan_, there are nuances with the trailing /  look at the man pages
[03:54] <sargento> Any idea how to mount a flash drive?, I've tried "lsusb" and it appears but I can't mount it
[03:55] <RivitingOne> nbeebo: Is there a command or anything that can reset/delete/revert to the original video setup without having to reinstall again?
[03:55] <lgc> pjKevin, now you got me finding out what the hell is pysdm...
[03:56] <elementz> Chrisie: smae problem
[03:56] <nbeebo> rivitingone, im not sure, but u could reinstall a unmodified kernel, uninstall all traces of drivers then install propieratary
[03:57] <RivitingOne> sketch_: I am trying to get wine working but with limited success. So many guides say different things. Can someone just direct me to a reliable up to date linux information site perhapse? Somewhere that I could do the searching myself through material that was relitivly correct?
[03:57] <nbeebo> rivitingone, im just here for help myself too, but i had troubles in the past, and i also know that drivers modifies the kernel...
[03:57] <niriven> Does 64-bit now have the 10 flash in the repos?
[03:57] <sargento> Someone know any visual application to mount USB Flash drives?
[03:57] <grant2328> sargento: try "dmesg" just after you plug in the device
[03:58] <nbeebo> rivitingone, and the thing about reinstalling etc, not sure it would work
[03:58] <grant2328> sargento: though nautilus _should_ autodetect it.
[03:58] <justizin> hello, i'm curious as to how i can create new partitions / volumes which may be mounted by uuid, rather than device name, as is the case with those set up during installation.  i've googled a bit, but haven't found anything directly useful, any help would be appreciated while i continue to try and sort this out myself.
[03:59] <RivitingOne> nbeebo: How would I find out how to do that? Anyone have a suggestion as to where I could find a correct walkthrough/information on reinstalling an unmodified kernel?
[03:59] <lgc> sargento 'mount', of course, and its lighter version, pmount.
[03:59] <sargento> grant2328: Yeap, it should but it doesn't.
[04:00] <rodolfo> does somebody know how i can rip audio from dvd? I'm using dvd::rip but I don't know how to make it work...
[04:00] <sargento> lgc: I'm new in ubuntu and when I edit fstab to mount it, I get errors
[04:00] <nbeebo> rivitinone, its in the repository, but i dont know how to replace it etc, maybe just remove the modified one, but dont know how
[04:00] <Jophish> How can I contact the repository maintainers?
[04:01] <lgc> sargento, a flash memory shouldn't be in /etc/fstab.
[04:01] <whyameye> I want to update from 64 bit 8.04 to 32 bit 8.10. Is there a way to use the updater for this or do I have to start from scratch?
[04:02] <nbeebo> jophish on ubuntus website it says: To report a problem with the web site, e-mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>For other contact information, see the Ubuntu contact page.
[04:02] <lgc> sargento, that is because only fixed mount points should appear on such table.
[04:02] <Chrisie> elementz: hmm. the user you're trying to run mplayer with, are you in the pulse-access group?
[04:03] <Weez> I have a motherboard with hdmi and after a ton of fihting and alot of help i have system sounds over hdmi so i know its possible but im not getting any dvd sounds, mp3, youtube, avi etc etc
[04:03] <Weez> any idea what i can look for?
[04:03] <Weez> im baffled
[04:03] <softwarejonas> does anybody know how to create a proper guest account without password?
[04:03] <sargento> lgc: Thank you, my fault. How can I know which dev is my usb flash drive.
[04:03] <nbeebo> RivitingOne needs help with ATI drivers, help him please...
[04:03] <RivitingOne> From the ubuntu forums "...create a new user,new user will have default settings with no reinstallation" Anyone know if this applies to video drivers?
[04:03] <lgc> sargento, 'dmesg | tail'. It should tell you.
[04:04] <Jophish> RivitingOne, you could try it and see
[04:04] <sargento> lgc: [ 8859.688584] Buffer I/O error on device sdc, logical block 1939455
[04:04] <softwarejonas> RivitingOne: What was your question?
[04:04] <sargento> [ 8859.695940] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Device not ready: Sense Key : Not Ready [current]
[04:04] <sargento> [ 8859.695951] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Device not ready: Add. Sense: Medium not present
[04:04] <sargento> [ 8859.695960] end_request: I/O error, dev sdc, sector 1939448
[04:04] <sargento> [ 8859.703932] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Device not ready: Sense Key : Not Ready [current]
[04:04] <FloodBot3> sargento: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:04] <sargento> [ 8859.703941] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Device not ready: Add. Sense: Medium not present
[04:04] <grant2328> what's the word on support for built-in sony memorystick readers? (like on a laptop)
[04:04] <Jophish> if the drivers are broken beyond repair, then you have nothing to lose
[04:04] <RivitingOne> Is there a command in terminal that will tell me what driver is installed?
[04:05] <lgc> sargento, then something like 'pmount -t vfat /dev/whatever chosen_mount_point'.
[04:05] <shams> our company develop open source projects. is this true that we have a unique project in the source forge for any project of company? or we must have one project in sf.net contains all internal company projects?
[04:06] <LinuxJunke> i am having troublers with an intel 8201 with no sound need some help
[04:06] <RivitingOne> softwarejonas: Basicly I am trying like mad to install functioning ati drivers for a X800 video card but I don't know which to use. There are so many differing openions on the forums and guides.
[04:06] <sargento> What should I use after dev, I create a folder in media usb called usbdrive, so I suppose it should be "pmount -t vfat /dev/whatever /media/usbdrive"
[04:06] <sargento> lgc: What should I use after dev, I create a folder in media usb called usbdrive, so I suppose it should be "pmount -t vfat /dev/whatever /media/usbdrive"
[04:06] <lgc> sargento, it can happen your device should refuse to talk to the kernel. It might be your case. You might try either trying with another USB port, another USB device or, the old-and-dirty trick of rebooting your machine Windows-style.
[04:06] <Fezzler1> Is $HOME the same as USRNAME/
[04:07] <RivitingOne> softwarejonas: I play world of warcraft (yeah yeah yeah shuddup ) with my wife but I can't get it to work with wine
[04:07] <nbeebo> !paste
[04:07] <kestrel> softwarejonas, in 8.10 there is a utility under administration that creates a guest account, I think it is called Guest Account.
[04:08] <lgc> sargento, it should be something like 'pmount -t vfat /dev/sdc /media/usb'.
[04:08] <nbeebo> rivitingone, can u run the command gsudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and paste everything into http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and send link? maybe i could help with anything...
[04:08] <shadowwulf> where is the location to enter a eth0 command to get access to the net
[04:08] <\Kira> is there a easier way to remove files via the command line?  My USB Flash drive actually is a cellphone with modem functionability, If I switch to modem mode, it works, but I can tranfer files to my cell.
[04:08] <shadowwulf> in a bash prompt
[04:09] <Al1> im repartioning my drive, what partitions should i create?
[04:09] <nbeebo> !ati
[04:09] <sargento> lgc: sorry, I can't tranfer files to my cellphone because I cannot mount it
[04:10] <kestrel> Al1, I create / and /home only.
[04:10] <grant2328> Al1: at the very least, have a separate partition for /home
[04:10] <lgc> sargento, from what I recall from my experiences with my Nokia, you need to enable something on the phone in order to make it work as a USB storage device. Have you looked into that already?
[04:10] <Al1> what about a swap?
[04:10] <Chrisie> \Kira: the rm command has -r -f options , recursive and force. Does this not do what you want
[04:10] <RivitingOne> nbeebo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/78562/ That's a pretty handy little tool
[04:11] <shadowwulf> trying to get access to the internet in safe mode ... what is the location of the file to edit it
[04:11] <kestrel> Al1, swap if you have spinning disks - no for ssd
[04:11] <lgc> sargento, that is, first, configure the phone, then plug it in.
[04:11] <grant2328> Al1: You might also consider a separate boot partition, especially if you want to toy with other distros.
[04:12] <sargento> lgc: Yeap, actually I can switch it to modem mode and my PC recognize it, but when I change my cellphone to USB Flash drive nothing happen. It's already in USB Flash Drive Mode.
[04:12] <shadowwulf> trying to get access to the internet in safe mode ... what is the location of the file to edit it
[04:12] <Al1> kestrel: im on a dell inspiron 1525, ho do i know if i have ssd?
[04:12] <kestrel> grant2328, how does a separate boot partition help with multiple distros?
[04:12] <nbeebo> rivitingone, im swedish, what exactly does depth mean?
[04:13] <nbeebo> rivitingone, long time lyme disease.. lol
[04:13] <grant2328> kestrel: means you only have one copy of the kernels
[04:13] <lgc> sargento, then unplug it and plug it again and try the mount (but it should be done automatically if everything is working).
[04:13] <kestrel> Al1, you do not likely have a solid state drive. You want sway 1.5X your ram.
[04:13] <ssdt> i have installed ubuntu and trying to make is so that in the startup, it doesn't directly go to windows
[04:13] <ssdt> how can i configure windows so that it happens that way
[04:14] <RivitingOne> nbeebo: depth is like if you held one hand at 1 foot away and another hand at two feet away.
[04:14] <Al1> kestrel: ok
[04:14] <shadowwulf> what file do i have to edit to gain internet from a bash prompt
[04:14] <RivitingOne> nbeebo: seeing the amount of distance between two objects in your line of sight might be a good way to put it
[04:14] <sargento> I just unplugged it and plugged it once again but my computer seems not to find it
[04:15] <nbeebo> rivitingone, hmmm think it could mean screen refresh rate? lol
[04:15] <sargento> lgc: I just unplugged it and plugged it once again but my computer seems not to find it
[04:15] <RivitingOne> nbeebo: nope
[04:15] <kestrel> grant2328, isn't having different kernels part of exploring different distros? Personal preference
[04:15] <sargento> lgc: How can I know which dev I must use to mount my cellphone?
[04:15] <ssdt> can someone please help me?
[04:16] <ssdt> i need some help quickly as possible please
[04:16] <shadowwulf> what file do i have to edit to gain internet from a bash prompt
[04:16] <nbeebo> rivitingone, i could only think if one thing then, change the fgl at the bottom to match the installed driver, if it doesnt work ur screen will go black... u can still use the command line tho...
[04:16] <grant2328> kestrel: yeah, the thought just occurred to me. especially if you want to fool with the kernel in your experimentations
[04:16] <lgc> sargento, I'm not sure, honestly. It probably is associated with the USB port you use.
[04:17] <grant2328> kestrel: the redundant data gets to me. pet peeve/personal preference :)
[04:17] <sargento> lgc: Thank you anyway.
[04:17] <cdeszaq> How can I figure out what speed a network link is running at, or has negotiated itself to, from the command line?
[04:17] <lgc> sargento, but have you exhausted every possibility of configuration in your phone?
[04:17] <pez> smart ppl of the #ubuntu -- I need to figure out how to un-fuck my /boot -- its gotten full without my noticing and now trying to remove old linux kernel images via synaptic is failing - what is the safe thing to do?
[04:18] <kestrel> cdeszaq, ifconfig
[04:18] <nbeebo> pez dont swear, people will get angry :S lol
[04:18] <RivitingOne> I might have to reboot here in a sec, wish me luck lol
[04:18] <nbeebo> !language
[04:18] <Al1> kestrel: ran install got the following error http://paste.ubuntu.com/78569/
[04:18] <shadowwulf> what file do i have to edit to gain internet from a bash prompt
[04:18] <nbeebo> wait
[04:18] <nbeebo> rivitingone ur here?
[04:18] <RivitingOne> nbeebo: waiting
[04:19] <RivitingOne> nbeebo:barely lol
[04:20] <grant2328> what's the word on sony memorystick in-built readers under linux?
[04:20] <c0re_> !
[04:20] <shadowwulf> what file do i have to edit to gain internet from a bash prompt
[04:20] <wartalker> shadowwulf:wired or wireless
[04:20] <jordan_> how do you get grep to stop at the first match?
[04:20] <kestrel> Al1, when you got to the partitioning did you select the default - use whole disk
[04:20] <nbeebo> rivitingone, if its turning blank, press ctrl+alt+f1, login, write sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf, change the bottom fglrx to fgl, and the upper fglrx to vesa, so it would use the default drivers.. to save in nano just exit then choose safe
[04:20] <Al1> kestrel: no i used the manual
[04:20] <shadowwulf> wartalker, wired
[04:21] <nbeebo> rivitingone, u could connect back to irc from command too btw...
[04:21] <RivitingOne> ok, I'll give it a shot
[04:21] <nbeebo> ok
[04:21] <RivitingOne> appreciate it
[04:21] <sargento> lgc: yeah, that's the only way to change it, modem or USB Media Flash, I used to work on gutsy but it doesn't any more in Ibex
[04:21] <goldmetal> i installed 8.10 via upgrade. my uname still says <IP_ADDRESS> , how to use new kernel?
[04:21] <kestrel> Al1, are you installing on the first hard drive or a secondary drive
[04:21] <nbeebo> rivitingone no problem i hate problems too..
[04:22] <pez> nbeebo - you mean *you* get offended and I think thats pretty lame that all you can do is complain about my language when ubuntu just filled my boot partition screwing me here when it *clearly* should know that it was about to do it. *that* I find rude.
[04:22] <Al1> kestrel: first
[04:22] <nbeebo> pez
[04:22] <nbeebo> !language
[04:22] <wartalker> shadowwulf: dhcp if your lan support
[04:22] <Al1> kestrel: correction* only
[04:22] <kestrel> Al1, did you select the format check box?
[04:22] <shadowwulf> wartalker,  my lan is not on at the moment ... i need to know wjay file to edit so i can add it
[04:22] <nbeebo> pez, try losing all ur files then...
[04:23] <Al1> kestrel: for which partitions?
[04:23] <lgc> sargento, hmm... that happens all too often!
[04:24] <tulimaq> shadowwulf, pastebin ur  "ifconfig" output
[04:24] <wartalker> shadowwulf:route can add the router
[04:24] <kestrel> Al1, are you setting up a dual boot? You should format all partitions you install on the first time you install. Reinstall may not require format of /home directory and this saves all personal data.
[04:24] <Al1> kestrel: ok i just did. same problem
[04:24] <xorlim> how do I show info about my CPU?
[04:24] <technogen> shadowwulf edit the /etc/wvdial.conf
[04:24] <shadowwulf> tulimaq, i know it doenst have a eth0 port added ,... i need to add it ... but i forgot where
[04:24] <cdeszaq> Is there any reason for a network link that negotiated at 100baseTx-FD to be only sending at 10MB/s?
[04:25] <nbeebo> damn what if i damaged the installation to the guy i helped.... :,(
[04:25] <Al1> kestrel: im booting from the dvd
[04:25] <shadowwulf> technogen,  its wired ethernet
[04:25] <sargento> lgc: so, any clue to mount it?
[04:26] <Al1> kestrel: im trying to fix the original partitioning layout to make it more flexible
[04:26] <prakash_629> i cannot connect to internet in my account. but it gets connected in another account. What is the problem ?
[04:26] <grant2328> pez: http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=removing+old+kernels+from+%2Fboot&l=1
[04:26] <kestrel> Al1, does your computer have windows and do you want to keep it?
[04:26] <Al1> kestrel: no an no
[04:26] <lgc> sargento, not any more that I've told you, I regret. Check dmesg for the device number. And if nothing works do file a bug or check the bug archives.
[04:27] <prakash_629> Firefox is in offline mode. How can i make it online mode. ???
[04:27] <phix> back
[04:27] <aaaaa> prakash_629 I can
[04:27] <erpo> I have a printer/scanner multifunction machine connected to a server running cupsd. I can print over the network using my laptop. However, I would also like to scan over the network. Is this possible?
[04:27] <homecable> how do i install apache1.3 on unbuntu-server
[04:27] <lgc> xorlim, one way is to cat /proc/cpuinfo, but I'm sure there are other friendlier ways.
[04:27] <tulimaq> shadowwulf,  /etc/network/interfaces
[04:27] <Al1> kestrel: i originally had ubuntu but my sound card went hay wire and i could not find the source so i backed up all important data and i reinstalled, i figured that as long as i was doing this i may as well fix the partitions
[04:27] <homecable> with php and cgi
[04:28] <shadowwulf> ok
[04:28] <Al1> kestrel: my problem now is that i cannot change the partitions without receiving that error
[04:28] <kestrel> Al1, one thing came to me. you have to remove the original partitions. maybe there is no space.
[04:28] <shadowwulf> tulimaq,  what two lines i put in there ... auto eth0  and iface DHCP ?
[04:28] <sargento> lgc: Thanks a lot.
[04:28] <Flynsarmy> In intrepid the file open dialogue box pops up with really weird sizes and sometimes its missing hte desktop and one other link on the left and is blank whtie in the center. Is this a common problem?
[04:28] <grant2328> how do I get my built-in sony memorystick reader to work?
[04:28] <homecable> auto eth0
[04:28] <homecable> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:28] <cdeszaq> erpo: Of course it is possible, how do you mean "scan over the network"? Remotely operate a scanner, or simply use one machine to scan and the pick up the file from annother?
[04:28] <lgc> sargento, sorry I couldn't just get you through.
[04:29] <Al1> kestrel: is there a way to check that?
[04:29] <tulimaq> shadowwulf, auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp
[04:29] <sargento> lgc: Don't worry, you tried and that's what counts
[04:29] <nbeebo> damn the guy i helped isnt back yet :S:S:
[04:29] <kestrel> Al1, in manual partitioning what does it say next to sda1?
[04:30] <lgc> sargento, OK.
[04:30] <cdeszaq> nbeebo: Just assume it worked and he had no more problems :)
[04:30] <__BSD__> you better hide and change your nick nbeebo hehe :)
[04:30] <sargento> lgc: Let my try if someone else can help me
[04:31] <nbeebo> cdeszaq, __BSD__ HIHI :D
[04:31] <lgc> sargento, be my guest.
[04:31] <Al1> kestrel: the size i allocated it and the type ext3 and the mount point / and check in format box
[04:31] <Xpistos> When I try and connect to my server with TERMINAL SERVER CLIENT using VNC, I only get a small view regardless of if I have it in full screen or not. Does I have to turn off compiz to get the full screen view?
[04:32] <Al1> kestrel: under used it says unused
[04:32] <sargento> Any idea how can I know which /dev is my USB Flash Drive supposed to be?
[04:32] <Al1> kestrel: sorry unknown
[04:32] <kestrel> Al1, no, on the previous screen.
[04:32] <tulimaq> sargento, sudo fdisk -l
[04:33] <slinkeey> Hi...
[04:33] <slinkeey> Has anyone else decided to roll back to 8.04?
[04:33] <Al1> In Manual it says nothing
[04:33] <Al1> kestrel: it is blank
[04:33] <shadowwulf> tulimaq,  thanks that worked
[04:33] <__BSD__> I have slinkeey , im DONE with 8.10 forever
[04:33] <slinkeey> 8.10 is nice but 8.4 seams more polished....
[04:33] <grant2328> slinkeey: I did. had weird boot and network issues
[04:33] <tulimaq> shadowwulf, nps
[04:33] <slinkeey> I have more problems with 8.10
[04:33] <__BSD__> I had Nvidia and sound probs
[04:33] <kestrel> Al1, how much space is available on sda?
[04:34] <slinkeey> 8.04 was awesome
[04:34] <sargento> tulimaq fdisk -l only shows my hard drives, but my USB Flash drive doesn't apper on it
[04:34] <slinkeey> Ok... I am glad I am not the only one..
[04:34] <Al1> kestrel: i have 120 gb to partition
[04:34] <shadowwulf> __BSD__, how did you fix the nvidia issues ?
[04:34] <__BSD__> i went to 8.04 ;)
[04:34] <__BSD__> lol
[04:34] <cdeszaq> slinkeey: Well of course it would be...8.04 was a long term release
[04:34] <slinkeey> hehe
[04:35] <ubd> please help me to construct a sentence, if you can please msg me
[04:35] <dnyy> Grr, well I got this CD drive to start opening and closing, but neither windows or ubuntu will recognize it. :/
[04:35] <cdeszaq> ubd: What kind of a sentence?
[04:35] <slinkeey> ok
[04:35] <shadowwulf> what is defualt encoding in the US ... UTF-8 ?
[04:35] <slinkeey> So do they test stuff in 8.10 and then if it is good it makes it into 8.04?
[04:35] <tulimaq> sargento,  maybe some driver issue ?
[04:36] <ubd> it is a simple sentece but i english is not my ative pls msg me
[04:36] <RyanPrior> !pm | ubd
[04:36] <cdeszaq> slinkeey: More like the testing needed for stuf to get into a long-term release is more rigourous
[04:36] <kestrel> Al1, so you select sda and then edit or add (I'm doing this from memory) and on the next screen it should let you size the partition.
[04:36] <slinkeey> oh ok
[04:36] <slinkeey> that makes sence
[04:36] <ubd> this is not about ubuntu but english ?
[04:36] <RyanPrior> ubd: There may be another channel with speakers of your native language. What is it?
[04:36] <Al1> kestrel: yes and the type and whether i want to format and the directory
[04:36] <ubd> #gays ?
[04:37] <RyanPrior> ...
[04:37] <dnyy> haha
[04:37] <dnyy> what? :x
[04:37] <nbeebo> OMG
[04:37] <__BSD__> lol
[04:37] <nbeebo> !language
[04:37] <kestrel> Al1, try ext2
[04:37] <slinkeey> I have used ubuntu for a few years now and for some reason 8.10 has given me a fare share of problems... I guess I am not being fare hehe..
[04:37] <slinkeey> thanks for the tips
[04:37] <Al1> kestrel: also it has the location, beginning or end
[04:37] <sargento> tulimaq: No, I don't think so, because I've tried another USB Flash drives and my computer recognize them
[04:37] <nbeebo> ! cn
[04:37] <dnyy> slinkeey: really? it's given me the least amount of problems out of any of the other versions. :o
[04:37] <RyanPrior> slinkeey: Problems always come up some time, and if you use the OS enough you'll eventually get hit. Hang in there. :-)
[04:38] <Flynsarmy> In intrepid the file open dialogue box pops up with really weird sizes and sometimes its missing hte desktop and one other link on the left and is blank whtie in the center. Is this a common problem?
[04:38] <Al1> kestrel: ext2 for my /home mount as well?
[04:38] <slinkeey> Sargento, are you having trouble getting 8.10 to mount your USB?
[04:38] <slinkeey> drive
[04:38] <WahbeN> Hi all!! I really want to test out KDE 4.1, am currently using Ubuntu distro 8.04 but I am considering installing Kubuntu 8.10. Anyone advises against it? How usable is KDE as a main desktop environment?
[04:38] <kestrel> Al1, / in the begining and then swap then /home is how I do it.
[04:38] <akhil_> I can't open streaming asx files on my browser from my vlc. What plugin should i install to view these files?
[04:38] <kestrel> Al1, ext2 for /home
[04:39] <Al1> kestrel: alright am trying
[04:39] <nbeebo> al1, make swap twice the size of ur ram, / 5 gb, and /home the rest
[04:39] <slinkeey> Sargento: If so I know the fix...
[04:39] <slinkeey> I went throught this myself
[04:39] <__BSD__> WahbeN: id' hold off on that, what do you need thats in 8.10 that 8.04 doesnt have ?
[04:39] <RyanPrior> WahbeN: If stability of your desktop is important, I suggest sticking with what works. KDE is "beta" quality software.
[04:39] <dmulholland> WahbeN, its pretty usable at the minute, i just still prefer gnome although i didnt really give it much of a chance :) some nice touches in it tho
[04:40] <__BSD__> plus 8.04 is supported longer, its a LTS (Long term support) release
[04:40] <dmulholland> WahbeN, you also might be wise to ask in #kubuntu :)
[04:40] <tulimaq> sargento, strange then ... check dmesg maybe that can help u
[04:40] <craigbass1976> I can't play an mp3 all of a sudden.  Nor can I start Ardour, getting jack starting issues.  Weird.  Anyone else experiencing the mp3 bit in hardy?
[04:40] <RyanPrior> nbeebo: Is "twice the size of your RAM" really needed these days? I can't imagine using more than 2gb of swap...
[04:40] <RyanPrior> craigbass1976: Did you check Launchpad for bugs?
[04:41] <sargento> slinkeey: yeap, with 8.04 my computer mounted it perfect
[04:41] <WahbeN> BSD: I am really not sure what 8.10 has that 8.04 doesn't the point is I want to start off anew because my current installation is clutered with hundreds of compiled packages etc.. I am currrently backing up my home in order to install kubuntu.
[04:41] <slinkeey> Sargento:  I had the same problem..
[04:41] <grant2328> I remember reading somewhere that you can get away with <2xRAM when you have 2GB of it.
[04:41] <slinkeey> Let me gig up a thread
[04:41] <nbeebo> ryanprior, well, swap is there so ur ram wont be overloaded so i guess 1 gb is fine if u dont use massive games....
[04:41] <WahbeN> dmulholland: I figured #kubuntu might be a bit biased.. that's why I went and asked here :-)
[04:41] <slinkeey> dig
[04:41] <slinkeey> On my other PC
[04:41] <dmulholland> WahbeN, thats a fair point but in here is likely biased towards gnome :)
[04:41] <sargento> slinkeey  Did you solve it?
[04:41] <RyanPrior> nbeebo: If you are running games and they're swapping, your FPS will be terrible and you need more RAM.
[04:42] <Stargazer> How come i can't print PNG images with transparent layers ? they come out black where the transparency is.
[04:42] <dmulholland> WahbeN, download the live CD and give it a shot
[04:42] <__BSD__> WahbeN: KDE4 is pretty nice as well,,, ummm but personal i'd get Kubuntu 8.04 over Kubuntu 8.10
[04:42] <slinkeey> Yeas this solved my problem
[04:42] <craigbass1976> nope.  Thought I'd poke here first.
[04:42] <slinkeey> I didn't come up with the fix..
[04:42] <craigbass1976> RyanPrior, nope.  Thought I'd poke here first.
[04:42] <dnyy> If my CD drive is opening/closing and making the noises of trying to read, but isn't reading or even being recognized by windows and ubuntu, it's broken right?
[04:42] <slinkeey> have a few minutes for me to dig it up?
[04:42] <nbeebo> ryanprior, well if theres only a few places in the game where ram would exceed just a lil bit the game would lag etc, maybe crash
[04:42] <sargento> slinkeey: Sorry, but what did you do?
[04:42] <sketch_> how do i run wine ? i installed wine now I want to run it like windows is that how it works ?
[04:42] <RyanPrior> craigbass1976: It's actually better to check launchpad first, since there may be workaround info, links to Ubuntu forum threads, etc.
[04:42] <craigbass1976> dnyy, probably; you've got a nice drink coaster now
[04:42] <erpo> cdeszaq: I mean I want to run the Gimp on my laptop, and "Acquire" an image by connecting to the scanner hardware over the network.
[04:43] <dmulholland> WahbeN, also there are some nice touches in .10 such as the new networkmanager that supports 3G sticks (if you ever work mobile)
[04:43] <slinkeey> Sargento: Hold on.. I am going to my desktop where I had to do it
[04:43] <erpo> (The scanner hardware is connected to an Ubuntu 8.04 server box.)
[04:43] <WahbeN> dmulholland, I am def a fan of gnome, I was using KDE only years ago and it didn't do it for me, but I've been charmed by the vector graphics wdgets etc...
[04:43] <dnyy> craigbass1976: Well shoot, just when I wanted to reinstall my OSs. :(
[04:43] <Al1> kestrel: whats the diff between ext2 and ext3?
[04:43] <__BSD__> sketch_: 'wine blahblah.exe'  in a terminal should do the trick
[04:43] <RyanPrior> Al1: ext3 has journaling support. Otherwise, it's pretty similar.
[04:43] <dmulholland> WahbeN, those things die off quite quickly, in my opinion KDE is becoming very Mac OSX in some of its features
[04:44] <sargento> slinkeey: Thank you.
[04:44] <RyanPrior> sketch_: Not even needed anymore. Just './blahblah.exe' should work these days.
[04:44] <Al1> Alright Ext2 is working
[04:44] <nbeebo> kde got too many options for my like.. and the new gui is kinda ugly
[04:44] <__BSD__> RyanPrior: that was kinda rude.
[04:44] <kestrel> Al1, ext3 is a journaling filesystem and has more advanced features for the more advance user.
[04:44] <__BSD__> either way woulda worked
[04:44] <WahbeN> Well thanks for your help, I'll be sure to try the live-cd before installing anyways. BSD: why do you prefer 8.04 vs 8.10? Are there many known problems with Ibex?
[04:44] <craigbass1976> dnyy, you haven't got another you can rip out of a dead box?
[04:45] <__BSD__> WahbeN: for the long term support :)
[04:45] <RyanPrior> __BSD__: I make no judgment -- I was pleased to find that explicitly calling "wine" isn't needed anymore, and I thought to pass that information on.
[04:45] <dnyy> Well I'm on a laptop.  Could I use one from a desktop, cause I don't have another laptop layin' around. :/
[04:45] <WahbeN> I see.. k thanks.
[04:45] <Tazbobu> My ubuntu wlan0 keeps losing the dns server addresses.  If I have it setup to use DHCP it configures the connection properly but doesn't get the DNS... I have added the DNS in the settings and it works fine but every time it reconnects the DNS is gone
[04:45] <Al1> kestrel: it failed
[04:45] <goldmetal> how to install cool thee?
[04:45] <goldmetal> theme?
[04:45] <__BSD__> you're welcome WahbeN good luck
[04:46] <goldmetal> !theme
[04:46] <kestrel> Al1, I've never felt the diff. Look on wikipedia.
[04:46] <dmulholland> WahbeN, for me the features of 8.10 outweigh the downfalls but then ive also found a few programs i cant get to work without the old kernel (Intel VTune) but give it a shot and all the best! :)
[04:46] <kestrel> Al1, same or diff
[04:46] <Flynsarmy> In intrepid the file open dialogue box pops up with really weird sizes and sometimes its missing hte desktop and one other link on the left and is blank whtie in the center.  In pidgin occasionally it's broken all together until i restart the application
[04:47] <WahbeN> dmulholland, yea I haven't looked into 8.04 and 8.10's kernel features. I hope all my drivers will be supported ncely.
[04:47] <WahbeN> *hardware that is
[04:47] <slinkeey> sargento: Scroll down to where Grzegorz says how the trick worked for him...  you just need to change line 59 in 60-persistene-storage.rules
[04:48] <Al1> kestrel: perhaps i should reboot, i cant even get the install menu open now
[04:48] <slinkeey> that is it..
[04:48] <Polygon89> does anyone have problems with msn staying connected but your friends are not getting your messages and vice versa in pidgin?
[04:48] <kestrel> Al1, i've only installed from the cd and I guess it is possible that the dvd iso you downloaded was bad in some way. It seems you are doing i right.
[04:48] <Al1> kestrel: i didnt download it its the cd
[04:48] <sargento> Slinkeey: let me try, thanks a lot.
[04:48] <tulimaq> Polygon89, make sure its not in invisible/offline  mode
[04:48] <slinkeey> Sargento:  I bet if you check your logs now there is a Sene Key : No Sense  message looping over an dover
[04:48] <Al1> kestrel: dvd from ubuntu
[04:49] <kestrel> Al1, cd or dvd?
[04:49] <dmulholland> WahbeN, most of them should be, this is a very low user program which i just happen to need. most people use it on old systems :) its just a change in the kernel that intel need to fix for
[04:49] <Polygon89> tulimaq, im not. Its just my friends randomly stop talking to me, their 'song' status does not updates, etc
[04:49] <Al1> kestrel: it says ubuntu 8.04 LTS DVD
[04:50] <kestrel> Al1, this is the same disk you used last time?
[04:50] <ultra> hey, I tried to remove the init script for ircd-hybrid after I fucked it up, then I reinstalled the package but it didn't reinstall the init script, how do I get it back?
[04:50] <Al1> kestrel: no i ordered it pre-installed from dell
[04:51] <technogen> any idea how to wake up from standby mode?
[04:51] <ICU> hai
[04:51] <jordan_> how would you add .html to all files in the folder
[04:52] <bjbum> does anyone know if it's possible to install windows onto a separate (bootable) partition using ubuntu and virtualbox?
[04:52] <kestrel> Al1, I'm at a loss. All I can recommend is download a desktop live cd iso, burn and try it. I'd recommend jumping to 8.10
[04:53] <Jophish> how can I change where a symlink points to?
[04:53] <Al1> kestrel: alright thanks anyways
[04:53] <Al1> kestrel: i will keep trying
[04:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> how can i get openoffice's word processor in spanish from the console'
[04:53] <CostaRicanQuaker> ?
[04:54] <ddgoose> ultra, backup your ircd configs, then do -> sudo apt-get purge <package>
[04:54] <kestrel> Al1, you might try the default instead of the manual partition, just to see if it works.
[04:54] <ddgoose> ultra, then reinstall it
[04:54] <ultra> ddgoose: thanks
[04:54] <ultra> I'll try that
[04:54] <yuri123> hi guys i can't seem to connect an rj-45 cable to my laptop... nothing happens. I used a d-link 5 port switch and then tried to connect it directly to the cable modem, but each time it seems that i just cannot get to the www or anything else
[04:55] <kmyst> Anybody know how to import photos from an iPhone 3G in ubuntu (using gutsy)
[04:55] <delfick> does anyone know if it's possible for the default formatting option in openoffice.org to preserve the bold setting
[04:55] <delfick> ?
[04:56] <huwenfeng> HI, i got a problem,  i have a earphone , but only the left side works ,  i am using ubuntu ,    how can i control all the music to left side?
[04:56] <ultra> ddgoose: thanks, that seems to have worked perfectly
[04:57] <huwenfeng> when i listen to some song s , only the music come, but the words are gone , how can i make it ?
[04:57] <kmyst> ubuntu prompts me to import photos when i plug the iphone in but it's no joy
[04:57] <Jophish> how can I change where a symlink points to?
[04:57] <lianimator> huwenfeng: you're listening to karaoke songs..
[04:57] <ddgoose> ultra, no problem
[04:58] <kmyst> Jophish: remove the symlink and do a ln -sf to point to where you want it to go
[04:58] <CostaRicanQuaker> anyone know how to get the spanish  openoffice.com word processor from the console?
[04:58] <Jophish> can I remove it by "sudo rm LinkName"
[04:58] <joeb3_> CostaRicanQuaker, if it is installed, type oowriter
[04:59]  * Inf1DeL has a question. Does anyone of you know how to setup internet connection in ubuntu. I have cable internet and even though in Ubuntu it says its connected i cant browse the web..?
[04:59] <Jophish> or will that remove the file it is pointing to kmyst?
[04:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> joeb3_,  it's not
[04:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> how do i get it
[04:59] <CostaRicanQuaker> what's the nameof the program for the spanish version
[05:00] <kmyst> Jophish: it'll remove the link no the file
[05:00] <kmyst> Jophish: i.e. file foo has a symlink bar...rm'ing bar deletes the symlink not the file foo
[05:00] <ddgoose> Inf1DeL, Try -> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[05:01] <Jophish> ok, thanks
[05:01] <joeb3_> CostaRicanQuaker, http://download.openoffice.org/other.html#en-US  .  Look down for the spanish version.
[05:01] <huwenfeng> no , when i use my mp3 , everything is ok. you know ,  these days , left and right side of the earphone do different things,but my right side is broken , how can i use the left side to accept all the signals, then i will be happy
[05:02] <huwenfeng> is this configurable?
[05:02] <Tazbobu> I'm trying to get my wlan0 to hold specific DNS servers.. it is assigned address by DHCP and every time it resets the DNS server to the local IP of my machine, which obviously doesn't work.  I tried protecting resolv.conf but that didn't work
[05:02] <nbeebo> in ubuntu-volume-control
[05:03] <kmyst> huwenfeng: set it to mono...worth a shot...sounds like you got it set to stereo
[05:03] <huwenfeng> mono?
[05:03] <huwenfeng> kmyst: how can i set that ?
[05:03] <Takuya> I have a question. I had nVidia problems (with the driver). I reinstalled my system and I will try to update again, what is the best way to reinstall the nVidia driver for a new kernel?
[05:03] <Takuya> Because OOB it worked fine.
[05:03] <Takuya> but when I upgraded it went to hell.
[05:04] <ddgoose> Takuya, 8.04 or 8.10 ?
[05:04] <kmyst> huwenfeng: that i dunno...been eons since i've done that
[05:04] <kmyst> looking though
[05:05] <yuri123> Tazbobu: in 8.04 when iright click on the nm-applet and go to manual configuration there is a tab "DNS" see if that helps
[05:05] <kbrito> does anyone know how to recompile a usplash screen for 8.10 ?
[05:05] <Tazbobu> yuri123: yes I know that but every time I set the DNS properly it just gets set back when I reconnect
[05:06] <Takuya> ddgoose, 8.10
[05:06] <TedLinux> hello
[05:06] <ddgoose> Takuya, which nvidia card do you have?
[05:06] <Takuya> ddgoose, nVidia 8600M GT
[05:06] <kmyst> huwenfeng: what app you using to play music?
[05:06] <yuri123> Tazbobu: that;s all I got. sorry
[05:07] <TedLinux> i am looking for some basic info abt to connect my ubuntu system in internet
[05:07] <TedLinux> from my local lan
[05:07] <ddgoose> Takuya, do -> sudo apt-get install envyng-core envyng-qt envyng-gtk
[05:07] <wos> is there a way to transfer all of your programs and all of their settings on ubuntu to a different computer?
[05:08] <Takuya> ddgoose, ah. So should I update 8.10 first, then install envyng
[05:08] <Takuya> or should I activate the restricted drivers,
[05:08] <lianimator> wos: your settings and files are in your home folder mostly.
[05:08] <Takuya> then update, then use envyng?
[05:08] <ngabriel4977> can anyone help me with this?  i'm attempting a server upgrade, 7.10 to 8.04 and do-release-upgrade errors out saying that it could not calculate the upgrade (possible errors: upgrading to a pre-release version, running the current pre-release version, or unofficial software packages, ...).  I suspect the latter.  How can i find out?
[05:08] <lianimator> wos: for programs, no..
[05:08] <ddgoose> Takuya, did you just say you were on 8.10 already?
[05:08] <wos> well isnt that silly?
[05:08] <Takuya> ddgoose, yeah a vanilla install
[05:08] <wos> cant i copy my disk
[05:08] <Takuya> but the reason my driver stopped working was because I updated 8.10
[05:09] <Takuya> theere were a TON of updates, including a kernel
[05:09] <ddgoose> Takuya, yeah do the envyng install then run envyng -k
[05:09] <Takuya> when?
[05:09] <Takuya> first, before, after?
[05:09] <Takuya> :p
[05:09] <ddgoose> instead of
[05:09] <homecable> anyone know how to make a simple upload.php script ? blocking uploading of .php files ?
[05:09] <woody86> is anyone else getting a flashing cursor on webpages on their firefox now? Does anyone know how to fix it?
[05:10] <Takuya> ddgoose, so run it first, let it do it's thing, then run the security updates and new kernel, and run it again?
[05:10] <ddgoose> Takuya, do updates then run it
[05:10] <Takuya> ddgoose, ok. So don't activate drivers at all?
[05:11] <Takuya> if so, then gotcha.
[05:11] <ddgoose> Takuya, yeah do that last
[05:11] <ddgoose> Takuya, then when done give it another reboot
[05:13] <bjbum> does anyone know if it's possible to install windows onto a separate (bootable) partition using ubuntu and virtualbox? not sure what the limitations are in this process >.<
[05:13] <Takuya> ddgoose, ok
[05:14] <Takuya> so update, reboot, envyng, reboot?
[05:15] <GodfatherofEire> Anybody know how to modify the favorite applications, etc in the gnome main menu?
[05:15] <\Kira> how can I make a partition smaller via fdisk?
[05:16] <nbeebo> !omfg
[05:16] <Ahadiel> GodfatherofEire, sudo apt-get install alacarte, then right-click on the menu and click "Edit Menus".
[05:16] <tiyowan> Hi al.
[05:16] <tiyowan> er, all.
[05:16] <nbeebo> !omg
[05:16] <GodfatherofEire> Ahadiel, not that main menu
[05:16] <sketch_> lmfao
[05:16] <sketch_> omg
[05:16] <nbeebo> LOL
[05:16] <Ahadiel> GodfatherofEire, Which one then?
[05:16] <GodfatherofEire> Ahadiel, the one that looks like its from openSUSE
[05:17] <tiyowan> Been trying to install Ubuntu 8.10 on a Dell 9400, keep getting a /home partition too small error off the LiveCD installer. Any ideas?
[05:17] <Ahadiel> GodfatherofEire, Uhh, got a screenshot? I don't remember seeing that kind of menu in gnome.
[05:17] <mel> hey
[05:17] <Shadow__> hey
[05:17] <GodfatherofEire> Ahadiel, unfortunately not, Ubuntu doesnt like taking screenshots with a main menu open for some reason
[05:18] <sketch_> best line to describe OS testing fubar
[05:18] <Ahadiel> GodfatherofEire, sudo apt-get install scrot, then run it from the command line with a timer.
[05:18] <Shadow__> So finally got Ubuntu installed woot!
[05:18] <tiyowan> I've got two primary partitions. One for the DellUtility, one for WinXP Pro (NTFS).
[05:19] <sketch_> nice shadow , now install flash ur wifi
[05:19] <Ahadiel> GodfatherofEire, ie. scrot -d 5
[05:19] <tiyowan> But I can't seem to figure out why Ubuntu keeps giving me a /home partition too small size error.
[05:20] <sketch_> most of the pple in here are noobs using ubuntu including me
[05:20] <Shadow__> what is flash your wifi?
[05:20] <n8tuser> tiyowan-> how big are you assigning the /home partition?
[05:20] <sketch_> installl flash so you can see youtube videos
[05:20] <SanoSan> Newbie question!:  How do you go about running .exes?
[05:20] <sketch_> and install ur wifi card driver if u have one
[05:20] <tiyowan> n8tuser -> 8 GB /, 10 GB home, 2 GB swap
[05:20] <grant2328> SanoSan: wine
[05:20] <Shadow__> haha yah done I thought you ment there was some pakage called flashyurwifi
[05:21] <sketch_> nope
[05:21] <n8tuser> tiyowan-> that seems big enuff, at what point are you getting the error?
[05:21] <Shadow__> what I could use though is a way to remote to Ubuntu here at home from my vista machine at work
[05:21] <grant2328> SanoSan: install it using app manager, double-click the exe, and away you go.
[05:21] <grant2328> and with that, I'm off!
[05:21] <sketch_> and u should prob install the gstreamer
[05:21] <zetheroo2> my laptop is still freezing with Intrepid
[05:21] <tiyowan> nt8user -> Step 4.
[05:21] <GodfatherofEire> Ahadiel, where would It save the image?
[05:21] <mel> I'm having trouble getting the Volume control Gstreamer plugins and or devices found. The problem happened right after my cousin hepled me get the wi fi driver installed. What up?
[05:22] <GodfatherofEire> Never mind
[05:22] <tiyowan> nt8user -> I checked the iso image md5 checksum, and the cd I burned the image onto as well.
[05:22] <n8tuser> Shadow__-> putty
[05:22] <Shadow__> ah the putty
[05:22] <mel> what can I do?
[05:22] <sketch_> fix them one at a time
[05:22] <greghere> I need to fix Ubuntu 8.04, (was going to reformat but need emails and files)
[05:22] <n8tuser> tiyowan-> did you select to make your own partition size?
[05:23] <GodfatherofEire> Ahadiel: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rrtrw3&s=4
[05:23] <normloman> I'm having trouble uploading a torrent with transmission. I have created a torrent file, then I went to my tracker and uploaded it. Now I want to seed it, so I went to file>open and added the torrent file on my harddrive but the bar is read and it says downloading. Shouldn't it be green? All the files are on my computer already.
[05:23] <tiyowan> nt8user -> I managed to install Ubuntu successfully the first time, but then I uninstalled it in order to play around with the DellRestore partition (I deleted it), the only thing I did was install Partition Magic, but then I uninstalled it; now when I tried installing Ubuntu again, it gives me this error.
[05:23] <GodfatherofEire> Ahadiel: I think the synaptic package is gnome-main-menu
[05:24] <tiyowan> nt8user -> I use manual; but the error shows up in guided mode as well.
[05:24] <Ahadiel> GodfatherofEire, Hrm, are you able to right-click on any of the programs in the menu?
[05:24] <stovicek> GodfatherofEire: you can use right-click on the ones already there. you'll see an option to remove them. to add more, go to More Applications and right-click on the ones you want to add and you'll see that option.
[05:25] <blevuo> is anyone interested in a couple of simple apt-get update script generators for computers that have no internet? dont confuse these with the generate download script of synaptic, that is for packages. i mean for the packagelists themselves. i just made some
[05:25] <GodfatherofEire> Ahadiel, yep, just the remove option, but I stovicek just gave me my answer, so thanks to both of you for your help
[05:26] <tiyowan> nt8user -> Do you think Partition Magic screwed up my MBR or something?
[05:26] <GodfatherofEire> stovicek quick question though, on the system panel there, is there any way to add synaptic or anything?
[05:26] <ravalox> Anyone here have an MCP55 ethernet card that they can coax into working on 8.10?
[05:26] <greghere> What is the command to start gnome desktop
[05:26] <normloman> wait, never mind. problem solved. I just copied the files to my desktop where transmissionputs everything sorry to bother you guys
[05:26] <ravalox> I'm struggling with one, historically I've gotten this exact system to work with ubuntu but this one will simply not cooperate
[05:27] <tiyowan> ravalox -> Have you checked the hardware compatibility list on the Ubuntu forums?
[05:27] <bazhang> !hcl
[05:27] <stovicek> GodfatherofEire: I'm not really sure. I bet there's a way but I'd only be guessing at this point.
[05:27] <zetheroo2> my laptop is still freezing with the new kernel
[05:27] <GodfatherofEire> Thanks stovicek
[05:28] <stovicek> no problem
[05:28] <greghere> what is the command to install gnome desktop?
[05:28] <whta> Is there a usually-right solution to a low volume on laptop speakers across all of ubuntu? My friend is currently really frustrated with ubuntu, and this low volume thing isn't helping. All his volume sliders are maxed out. HDA Intel
[05:28] <GodfatherofEire> Stovicek, guess its just drag and drop
[05:29] <ravalox> It's worked before
[05:29] <tiyowan> So anyone else get this /home partition is too small error while installing intrepid?
[05:29] <tiyowan> :-)
[05:29] <ravalox> It's only in 8.10 where a lot of things have gone very wrong.
[05:29] <cmdr_awsome> if I need some legal advice.. is there a room I can go to>?
[05:29] <whta> 8.10 has been full of problems for me.
[05:29] <n8tuser> tiyowan-> why are you even in guided mode? use manual
[05:29] <stovicek> GodfatherofEire: I see what you mean. Nice find.
[05:29] <ravalox> Yeah, I tried using Fedora 10 because 8.10 is such a problem
[05:30] <n8tuser> tiyowan-> also spell my nick correctly, or ill miss your responses
[05:30] <greghere> How can I start gnome desktop environment?
[05:30] <GodfatherofEire> Thanks stovicek, just figured it'd be worth a shot, and I guess it works
[05:30] <tiyowan> n8tuser -> Oops. Sorry. I did use manual. The msg pops up even in manual.
[05:31] <n8tuser> tiyowan-> dont worry about it? and continue on, it should format an 8 gig for you if thats what you assigned it..
[05:31] <yuri123> hey simple question: can i burn a 700mb iso to dvd instead?
[05:31] <dublpaws> greghere: /etc/init.d/gdm start    that might work
[05:31] <greghere> How do I start gnome desktop?
[05:32] <greghere> Thanks I'll try :)
[05:32] <n8tuser> yuri123-> you can but may have not the same effect of being bootable?
[05:32] <tiyowan> n8tuser -> Tried doing that. When it actually starts installing the system files, the progress bar stops at around 20% and an I/O error pops up.
[05:32] <cody> e
[05:32] <yuri123> so burning xubuntu 8.10 to dvd will not boot?
[05:33] <n8tuser> tiyowan-> you proly really have a bad hard disk..
[05:34] <tiyowan> n8tuser -> Hmm. That's odd. Chkdsk doesn't show anything. Maybe something happened to my CD?
[05:34] <Don_Miguel> CostaRicanQuaker, for OpenOffice en español  try this link http://download.openoffice.org/other.html    and select the DEB file
[05:35] <greghere> dublpaws, I managed to start in "failsafe gnome" mode and it worked. So now how do I fix it so that it starts normally?
[05:36] <dublpaws> greghere: not sure.
[05:36] <tiyowan> n8tuser -> Yep. I tried burning another Ubuntu disc using Nero. The verify failed.
[05:37] <tiyowan> Btw. If you any of you guys have trouble burning Ubuntu discs on a Dell 9400, you need to *uninstall* Demon Tools, alcohol, PowerISO, etc.
[05:37] <dublpaws> greghere: did you get a graphical login box before going into failsafe gnome?
[05:38] <Monkeyface> what does it mean when you not download all repository indexes
[05:38] <Anacranom> tiyowan, try burning a the slowest speed
[05:38] <n8tuser> tiyowan-> okay
[05:39] <greghere> dublpaws, yes i entered my uname /pword
[05:39] <dublpaws> greghere: there should be an option to select the window manager at the bottom left of that screen
[05:40] <greghere> dublpaws, yes thats what I did and selected failsafe gnome, then my user name and pword
[05:40] <dublpaws> greghere: there isn't a regular plain old "Gnome"?
[05:40] <govinda> man, gnomebaker is awful, I dont know what it is but it doesnt burn any disc for me
[05:40] <Fezzler> is there anything I can run that would tell me for sure if my neighbor or anyone is on my wireless network
[05:40] <scunizi> govinda: k3b
[05:41] <greghere> dublpaws, It said "failsafe gnome"??
[05:41] <govinda> greghere, yes
[05:41] <scunizi> Fezzler: yea.. log into your router and look at how many connections with ip there are..
[05:41] <govinda> scunizi, no qt for me, thanks.
[05:41] <bruenig> govinda: gnomebkaer is known to be awful, you should use wodim
[05:41] <Monkeyface> what does it mean when you can't download all repository indexes
[05:41] <bruenig> Monkeyface: precisely what it says
[05:42] <greghere> dublpaws, so now Im in the os where do i look for problems of not starting rightly.
[05:42] <Fezzler> scunizi: not sure my router tells me that?
[05:42] <Monkeyface> The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct.
[05:42] <Fezzler> scunizi: command line option?
[05:42] <n8tuser> Fezzler-> dont worry about it, you dont type fast enuff nor your neighbor to slow down your connection
[05:43] <lianimator> is there a program to see what files are located where on my harddisk? I want to see which ones are fragmented.
[05:43] <scunizi> Fezzler: not that I'm aware of but there probably is one.. nmap maybe
[05:44] <greghere> dublpaws, if i try to start normal I get the logon username and password, then grey desktop with nothing. but compiz still works although all grey
[05:44] <jayde_drag0n> can someone help me reinstall grub, i've followed the directions twice and it still boots to windows without giving me the option to press esc and choose ubuntu
[05:44] <whta> will compiling the alsa driver snapshot cause any problems when the official version is pushed through the repositories?
[05:44] <cfedde> lianimator: I'm not sure what you are asking for.
[05:45] <knoppix> hez could i get ubuntu on a blank hard drive insteading of mounting
[05:46] <Fezzler> scunizi: where in my router.  Status?
[05:46] <dnyy> Anyone in here use photoshop CS3 in wine?
[05:46] <lianimator> cfedde: while checking the integrity of some files in Transmission, some are very slow, while some are very fast. I wanted to see if the slow ones are fragmented.
[05:46] <jayde_drag0n> can someone help me reinstall grub, i've followed the directions twice and it still boots to windows without giving me the option to press esc and choose ubuntu
[05:46] <greghere> dublpaws, i think my problem is in X so how do I edit it?
[05:47] <bruenig> Monkeyface: don't do that
[05:47] <dublpaws> greghere: are you using nvidia?
[05:47] <Monkeyface> what
[05:47] <lianimator> Another problem: Transmission often displaces my files to my Desktop. I have it in startup. The files are in another partition, completed, but Transmission will download them again on the Desktop.
[05:47] <cfedde> lianimator: filesystem fragmentation will not have impact on transmission speed.
[05:48] <wiseman> Uh oh
[05:48] <cfedde> lianimator: how are you transmitting files?
[05:48] <wiseman> I gots a problem now
[05:48] <wiseman> I restarted the computer and now all of my toolbars are gone
[05:48] <wiseman> top and bottlm
[05:48] <greghere> dublpaws,  no ATI
[05:49] <lianimator> cfedde: I'm referring to the bittorrent program Transmission. They speed difference is when verifying local data.. it's scanning the files to check which parts are downloaded.
[05:49] <ChrisDavaz> Is there a program that will help me use the webcam installed in my laptop?
[05:49] <wiseman> ChrisDavaz: i use cheese
[05:50] <ChrisDavaz> wiseman, cool i'll try it out, thanks
[05:50] <wiseman> It was a little buggy with mine though
[05:50] <wiseman> So my toolbars vanished, can anyone help me with that?
[05:50] <gregarei> Hello all, I recently installed kubunto on my desktop and cannot get also to recognize my sound card.  It worked initially but then the card switched from my PCI sound to my onboard, after using asoundconf to set it to the PCI card it worked until I rebooted now also says it cannot find dafault card.  Any help woud be greatly appreciated!
[05:50] <gregarei> s/also/alsa
[05:50] <vegombrei> hi .. i have a problem ... i just updated from 8.04 to 8.10 ... and now my sony dvd burner wont accept dvd-r .. what could be the problem ?? it worked perfectly fine with 8.04
[05:51] <cfedde> lianimator: ah.  so you are looking for a tool to report file statistics in the files you've recieved using Transmission.
[05:51] <whta> will compiling the alsa driver snapshot cause any problems when the official version is pushed through the repositories?
[05:51] <tater> could i get ubuntu on a blank hard drive
[05:51] <tater> instead of mounting
[05:51] <gregarei> vegombrei: Do you have dvdrtools installed?
[05:52] <goldmetal> what is the definition of 8.10 vs 8.04? why i ask? i upgrade from 8.04. and kernel still runs the 2.6.old version
[05:52] <lianimator> cfedde: kind of. a map of where the chunks of the file are physically located would be ideal.
[05:53] <Shadow__> anyone know a good tutorial on remote desktop to ubuntu from vista useing tightVNC
[05:53] <lianimator> cfedde: something similar to gparted's visual map of the partitions, except for files.
[05:53] <n8tuser> Shadow__-> use google to search for one
[05:53] <cfedde> lianimator: I guess I'm not going to be much use to you. I thought you were talking about filesystem fragmentation.
[05:54] <Shadow__> will do
[05:54] <Anacranom> Shadow__, try here: http://www.wood-bee-co.com/woodbeeco/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=40&Itemid=63
[05:54] <chipbuddy> i made a /home partition so i can reinstall the OS but not have to recover my home directory. this has worked great, however the extra users i created have not been pulled over. when i try to create a user with the desired home directory, it says that directory already exists
[05:54] <greghere> what is command to edit xorg?
[05:54] <lianimator> cfedde: I just assumed somes files are scanning at 20 MB per sec while some are at 200 MB/sec
[05:54] <lianimator> cfedde: is due to file fragmentation
[05:54] <n8tuser> chipbuddy-> what users are listed if you do   ls -la /home  ?
[05:55] <goldmetal> Shadow__, vnc to ubuntu is slow, i just tried it few days ago
[05:56] <chipbuddy> n8tuser there are 3. my administrator (which works) and then 2 non-admins
[05:56] <cfedde> lianimator: Fragmentation in bittorrent destination files is just normal sparse file allocation. It has little to do with filesystem fragmentation.
[05:57] <gregarei> Can anyone inform me where my default alsa snd card is set?  It seems to be improperly configured on my machine.
[05:57] <Shadow__> I'd just like to start and stop torrents while I'm at work
[05:57] <Shadow__> or grab files on the go
[05:58] <lianimator> cfedde: does ext2 and ext3 make a difference?
[05:58] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: i think you mightbe looking for something like 'fsview'
[05:58] <fr500> Shadow__: are you behind a nat router?
[05:58] <cfedde> lianimator: nope.
[05:58] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: fsviewer?
[05:58] <jayde_drag0n> okay i'm editing my grub menu so it sees windows again in the list.. what command so i use to get the results of my hard drives to look like hd0,0 or hd0,3 etc instead of sda1 etc
[05:59] <qmr> No sound in ZSNES.  Any ideas how to fix it?
[05:59] <chipbuddy> !xfs
[05:59] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: fsview
[05:59] <chipbuddy> !jfs
[05:59] <cfedde> lianimator: My confusion is that both bittorrent and the ext3 (and ext2) file system use the term "fragmentation" they mean something different in each context.
[05:59] <gregarei> jayde_drag0n: Just turn a's to 0, and the numbers = number -1
[05:59] <chipbuddy> !ext3
[05:59] <Shadow__> fr500, yes
[05:59] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: you want a graphical util?
[05:59] <chipbuddy> !reiserfs
[05:59] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: preferably
[05:59]  * gregarei wonders if that is considered spamming
[05:59] <qmr> chipbuddy: private message the bot?
[05:59] <vinaduro_> morning guys
[05:59] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: yeah, fsview
[06:00] <fr500> Shadow_ just forward the vnc port 5900 to your inside ip
[06:00] <chipbuddy> qar oops... i wasn't aware you could do that
[06:00] <qmr> and whoever is asking about filesystems, XFS owns your face, JFS is kind of cool, reiser for DB with small files, ext2/3 are pretty nub
[06:00] <vinaduro_> can someone please tell me how to set virtualbox up so that it uses the correct kernel module?
[06:00] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: where can I find it? I found fsviewer in the repos. and googling fsview gave me plugin for konqueror. I'm using gnome.
[06:00] <Shadow__> fr500, cool thanks
[06:00] <n8tuser> chipbuddy-> thats the way it is supposed to be right?
[06:01] <Shadow__> goldmetal: what were you using it for? I mean what was so slow about it
[06:01] <Static--> with file systems, will your truly notice any difference?
[06:01] <qmr> vinaduro_: apt-cache search virtualbox | grep `uname -r`
[06:01] <fr500> Shadow_ that is unsafe though
[06:01] <jayde_drag0n> gregarei: okay.. so my linux hard drive is sda1  and my windows partition is sda2  so linux is hd0,1 and windows is hd0,2???
[06:01] <gregarei> To expand on qmr, XFS is very stable for the performance it offers, just dont power off without shutting down, ext2/3 are VERY stable but with a performance cost, reiser uses space very efficiently
[06:01] <xishere> hi, i use Pidign and i want to add a "Send" button to the chat panel. Can anyone do it?
[06:01] <fr500> you could do secure ssh through VNC lookup ssh tunnel in google
[06:01] <chipbuddy> n8tuser that's what the home directory should look like, however the extra users aren't working. i can't create a user with that name (the home directory already exists) and i can't log in with the old user's name and password
[06:01] <vinaduro_> qmr: thanks
[06:01] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: i'm in kde... and i have to admit something. i'm not using ubuntu. standard debian here
[06:01] <lianimator> xishere: in the preferences
[06:01] <Shadow__> fr500: as far as I know there really isn't a safe way to remote lol
[06:01] <n8tuser> chipbuddy-> why are you recreating those users?
[06:02] <Shadow__> goldmetal, what were you using it for? I mean what was so slow about it
[06:02] <fr500> Shadow__: of course there is, VNC thru ssh is pretty secure
[06:02] <gregarei> jayde_drag0n: hda0,0 and hd0,1
[06:02] <qmr> You can power off an XFS machine just fine.  it's just likely that you will lose data if cache is dirty
[06:02] <fr500> and using a VPN is safe too
[06:02] <chipbuddy> n8tuser i reinstalled the os (upgraded to 8.10) and i want those users to have an account
[06:02] <gregarei> jayde_drag0n: oops, hd0,0 and hd0,1
[06:02] <goldmetal> Shadow__, gnome, click menu. so slow. please change your nick otherwise i will not talk to you
[06:02] <lianimator> xishere: no no, hold on.
[06:02] <n8tuser> chipbuddy-> easy to change those other users passwords,    sudo  password thoseuser    i think that should work
[06:02] <lianimator> xishere: in plugins, Send Button.
[06:03] <gregarei> qmr: Yes, so for those of us who dont like orphaned files chosen at random its not a good idea.
[06:03] <n8tuser> chipbuddy-> do they have entries in /etc/passwd ?
[06:03] <vinaduro_> qmr: it doesn't get any hits
[06:03] <WDC> better nick? lol
[06:03] <Static--> with file systems, will your truly notice any difference?
[06:03] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: i just took a look on google at fsviewer.. it's not the same thing as fsview, not at all.
[06:03] <fr500> lol
[06:03] <qmr> vinaduro_: what kernel are you using?  did you compile it yourself?
[06:03] <chipbuddy> n8tuser nope, only my account has an entry
[06:03] <gregarei> Static--: Depending on what your doing your filesystem choice can make a very large impact on performance.
[06:04] <n8tuser> chipbuddy-> you can create the user entry in /etc/passwd    try   sudo vipw
[06:04] <qmr> Static--: notice?  not really.  it will exist though
[06:04] <Static--> hmm
[06:04] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: yes, I saw that and removed it.
[06:04] <vinaduro_> qmr: Linux hadron 2.6.24-22-generic, and no I just upgraded to that kernel version
[06:04] <Static--> ive been using ext3, seems fine
[06:04] <qmr> Static--: XFS is clearly best choice, since it has an X
[06:05] <gregarei> I have to agree with that. :)
[06:05] <gregarei> Static--: Again, it all depends on what you are doing.
[06:05] <vinaduro_> qmr: if I search for virtualbox modules, I the closest I find to my kernel is 2.6.24-21-generic
[06:05] <chipbuddy> n8tuser so to bring these users over i'll have to manually edit the password file? that doesn't seem safe
[06:05] <gregarei> Now, does anyone know how I can access my alsa configuration file to specify what my default sound driver is?
[06:05] <Static--> work box, terminal sessions, remotes, server side stuff...
[06:06] <Static--> ext3 has treated me fine
[06:06] <vegombrei> gregarei: can i sudo apt-get install dvdr tools ???
[06:06] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: want to see a screenshot of fsview?
[06:06] <gregarei> Static--: Sounds like not too much file modification
[06:06] <gregarei> vegombrei: One word
[06:06] <n8tuser> chipbuddy-> what do you meant not safe?  vipw its the common operating procedure in unix to modify users account
[06:06] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: yes. would it make me what to get konqueror?
[06:06] <seakage2h> I think ext3 is more reasonable for PCs. No one can tell when the power fails....
[06:06] <Static--> gregarei: nah not to much, so i guess it doesnt matter
[06:06] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: this screenshot is kinda fuzzy, ughh, but here it is..  http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-promo&m=106328194820658&q=p3
[06:07] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: when you hover your mouse over a file in the window.. it tells you where the file is located
[06:07] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: wow, I want that.
[06:07] <vegombrei> gregarei: done ... should i try burning a dvd now ?
[06:08] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: i thought you would... it's very nice. it's only in kde i guess
[06:08] <vinaduro_> qmr: when  start virtualbox up, it says " * No suitable module for running kernel found."
[06:08] <gregarei> vegombrei: If you like
[06:08] <xishere> hi, i have problem
[06:08] <chipbuddy> n8tuser, ok thanks, i'll give it a shot
[06:08] <xishere> hi, i use Pidign and i want to add a "Send" button to the chat panel. Can anyone do it?
[06:08] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: I found Gdmap.
[06:09] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: roger that
[06:09] <n8tuser> chipbuddy-> btw there are additional steps you may have to do, like making sure the uid/gid is correct
[06:11] <kevin__> since installing ubuntu 8.10, there are times that my computer just freezes up, the caps lock and scroll lock keys just start flashing on and off. This never happened on any other version of ubuntu. Any ideas?
[06:11] <MasterNetra> Anyone know where to put startup scripts in Ubuntu Interpid?
[06:12] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: I'm not sure if they represent the physical place on the disk.. and it doesn't have the filenames inside the squares..
[06:12] <kevin__> MasterNetra: rc.d ?
[06:12] <MasterNetra> @Kevin_ That sounds like a kernal panic to me
[06:12] <MasterNetra> Its the offical release of 810
[06:12] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: yeah.. i just installed it and tried. not as nice as the kde one
[06:13] <MasterNetra> 8.10*
[06:13] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: gdmap is to view the files and compare the sizes.
[06:13] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: not really what I was hoping for.
[06:13] <qmr> MasterNetra: rc.d, same place you put them on any distribution or unix
[06:13] <kevin__> when it happens I the only way to do anything is to hard power off
[06:13] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: well, why not install kde?
[06:13] <xishere> who is using pidign?
[06:13] <Tetracomm> xishere: I do.
[06:14] <amh> im trying to setup samba.  ive installed it on 8.10 but cannot find shared folder.
[06:14] <amh> can anyone assist?
[06:14] <xishere> Tetracomm: hi
[06:14] <xishere> Tetracomm: i want to add a "Send" button on the chatting window
[06:14] <xishere> is there any way?
[06:14] <Tetracomm> xishere: I don't know how, tell me how to if you do.
[06:15] <xishere> ok, can you give me you gmail
[06:16] <xishere> Terminator: because i donot register here
[06:16] <sloopy> amh, you define the shared folder in /etc/samba/
[06:16] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: I don't think fsview is what I want. I want a physical map of the files.
[06:16] <amh> sloopy: isnt it suppose to be under SYSTE/ADMINISTRATION?
[06:16] <amh> in GNOME?
[06:17] <sloopy> amh, only if you install a GUI config utility
[06:17] <amh> sloopy: how do i do that?
[06:17] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: roger. well, you'd have to install the kde window manager, or at lest the libraries and then then fsview itself
[06:17] <kevin__> hang on sloopy
[06:17] <sloopy> amh, with synaptic
[06:17] <amh> sloopy: what is it called?
[06:17] <sloopy> kevin__, on to what?
[06:17] <kevin__> just kidding, nm
[06:17] <K> sudarshan_hi
[06:18] <sloopy> amh, i do not know i use the text conf file, search synaptic for samba and see what it is called
[06:18] <sloopy> kevin__, heh heh... get all kinds of responses to that ;´)
[06:18] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: thanks
[06:18] <amh> also, i do not have a "network" option under system.
[06:18] <alessandro> italiani?
[06:19] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: yw
[06:19] <kevin__> sloopy: lol, thought maybe you did :)
[06:19] <kevin__> sloopy: lol, thought maybe you did :)
[06:19] <kevin__> oops
[06:19] <sloopy> kevin__, i have used the nick for 25 years... so i have heard it
[06:19] <alessandro> italia?
[06:19] <sloopy> ´once or twice´ ;´)
[06:19] <xishere> Terminator: i am testing a plugin now
[06:20] <ThePlastikJesus> is there a way to rest cairo dock to it's defaults?
[06:20] <amh> sloopy: i see nothing for samba gui.  everything listed is already installed.
[06:20] <ThePlastikJesus> reset*
[06:20] <_2> !it > alessandro
[06:20] <sloopy> ubottu italia
[06:20] <kevin__> sloopy: all the way from 83?
[06:20] <sloopy> ubottu italian
[06:20] <sloopy> kevin__, about that...
[06:21] <sloopy> maybe 84 but definitly before 85
[06:21] <kevin__> sloopy: cool :)
[06:21] <lobo235> After installing the NVIDIA restricted driver the highest screen resolution I have is 800x600. If I uninstall the restricted driver it goes all the way to 1600x1200. Does anyone know how I can add the higher resolutions while I am using the restricted driver?
[06:21] <freetown> !bot
[06:22] <sloopy> amh, i will take a look
[06:22] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: I've found filefrag. which is closer to what I wanted. but no GUI.
[06:22] <amh> sloopy: thanks..  im looking too
[06:22] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: ahh, interesting!
[06:22] <sloopy> amh, SWAT
[06:23] <amh> sloopy: swat?  ok. i will check
[06:23] <nossralsuva> guys, how come in ubuntu and in the debian install, when you add multiple users, each user can go into each other's folders, as compared with the fedora, opensuse and centOS? How do I prevent that, when i setup the initial user, if I add another user, then that user can go into my folders, I don't prefer that, and how do I fix that?
[06:23] <freetown> !newbie
[06:23] <sloopy> amh, also webmin can do samba config
[06:23] <amh> sloopy: i see nothing in synaptic called SWAT
[06:23] <_2> nossralsuva permission settings
[06:24] <_2> nossralsuva it's easily changed     sudo chmod 700 ~
[06:24] <xishere> Terminator: how to install a plugin for pidgin?
[06:24] <ThePlastikJesus> anyone know if there is an option for cairo dock to restore it to the defaults?
[06:25] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: is filefrag installed by default on kde?
[06:25] <sloopy> amh, it is part of the samba package..
[06:25] <nossralsuva> _2: okay, that has been an annoying thing of mine for several years, it is only now an issue since i have multiple people using the same system, thanks a bunch
[06:26] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: no. remember, i'm in standard debian(lenny), and i searched for filefrag. not available in lenny.
[06:26] <sloopy> type swat at the terminal, and then try going to http://localhost:901/ on the machine
[06:26] <_2> nossralsuva welcome,    just a note; they should only have 'read' access by default.
[06:27] <amh> sloopy: i just want to be able to have my XP machine access files on ubuntu. is all this necessary?
[06:27] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: oh, okay. :)
[06:27] <doors98> what is the website of pigeon? i can't find it on google
[06:27] <_2> nossralsuva you should probably read up on file system permissions      man chmod     and  man chown    are good places to start
[06:27] <sloopy> amh, depends, i think it would be easier to just edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf file...
[06:28] <nossralsuva> _2: i prefer that they not be able to read my home folders contents at all, this is great thanks a bunch, i switched over from the RPM family to the DEB family and I now prefer the DEB side way more
[06:29] <_2> nossralsuva i'm still about as fond of .rpm personally,  but glad to help.
[06:29] <onetinsoldier> lianimator: however.. if you meant fsview... it shows as being a konqueror plug-in
[06:29] <amh> sloopy: is this also required to have my osx machine access?
[06:29] <sloopy> amh, as a client to the ubuntu machine?
[06:30] <lianimator> onetinsoldier: okay
[06:30] <zetheroo1> umm ... I deleted my logs ... will they be automatically recreated?
[06:30] <amh> sloopy: yes. i want to backup my osx files on this ubuntu server.
[06:30] <CaptainMorgan> how can I adjust the options in the gnome terminal so that it does *not* warn me when I'm closing multiple tabs? I looked in the Profile Edit options but couldn't find that value... I previously set it for a different system, and I don't recall that it was in there...
[06:30] <nossralsuva> _2, in Fedora which I have been running since fc4, once a new user is made (similar to windows) the user's home folder is kept private at default user creation, but in the DEB side of life, it allows the users to see contents of each other's folders, that weired me out a bit, and i preferred to stay away from permissions, but since that is the way, I am able to do that, which I am very familiar with chown and chmod
[06:30] <sloopy> amh, then yes it will, OSX can handle smb, (it uses samba itself internally)
[06:30] <xishere> Terminator: hi
[06:31] <xishere> Terminator: i did it
[06:31] <vegombrei> gregarei: thanks .. it worked ..
[06:31] <xishere> Terminator: hmm, are u busy?
[06:31] <amh> sloopy: do you have a good tutorial for editing smb.conf? there is a lot in that file that i could screw up.
[06:32] <sloopy> amh, google ´sample smb.conf´ or ´simple smb.conf´ you will find many
[06:32] <nossralsuva> amh: preferrably you should stick to editing just the last portion of the smb.conf file
[06:32] <doors98> What other chat softwares that can be installed in ubuntu so that it can communicate in YM?
[06:32] <sloopy> amh, cp the current one to smb.conf.orig and make a new file from a howto/mini example
[06:32] <amh> ugh. i wish i just had the GUI option.  why isn't it available?
[06:33] <nossralsuva> amh: for example,   [sharename], path = /path/of/share/you/want/to/share, guest ok = yes, comment = sharename,
[06:33] <_2> nossralsuva well that's not really package management.  that's simply a default security setting,   while it is true that more distros based on debian follow debian's permiscuous $HOME structure, while more distros based on redhat follow redhat's tighter security on the $HOME dir.   but it's not at all package manager related.
[06:33] <xishere> any one use the command XMODMAP xmodmap?
[06:33] <nossralsuva> amh: the syntax is like this,    what you desire = yes or no or an answer
[06:34] <xishere> Terminator:  Send button plugin: see here http://developer.pidgin.im/viewmtn/revision/info/bb30e9e61b14cc865cdde58cedf9e4fe6e471f79
[06:34] <nossralsuva> _2: gotcha, that breaks down the mental block I had
[06:34] <CaptainMorgan> how can I adjust the options in the gnome terminal so that it does *not* warn me when I'm closing multiple tabs? I looked in the Profile Edit options but couldn't find that value... I previously set it for a different system, and I don't recall that it was in there...
[06:34] <sloopy> amh, try swat
[06:34] <xishere> who use XMODMAP xmodmap?
[06:34] <nossralsuva> _2: well understood
[06:34] <amh> sloopy: SWAT doesn't appear to exist.
[06:35] <winteh> .
[06:35] <CaptainMorgan> xishere, what kind of system?
[06:35] <sloopy> amh, what happens when you type ´swat´ and then enter?
[06:35] <zetheroo1> I deleted my logs ... will they be automatically recreated? ... talking about the kernel and system logs
[06:35] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: i am using Hiweed, based on ubuntu 8.10
[06:35] <CaptainMorgan> they should zetheroo1
[06:35] <amh> sloopy: it says i need to install it..
[06:36] <sloopy> did you install it?
[06:36] <nossralsuva> amh: sudo apt-get install swat
[06:36] <CaptainMorgan> laptop/desktop? xiangfu`
[06:36] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: see at hiweed.com, from China
[06:36] <CaptainMorgan> laptop/desktop? xishere
[06:36] <xishere> both
[06:36] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: both laptop and desktop
[06:36] <amh> sloopy: it is installing now
[06:36] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, do -> sudo /etc/init.d/sysklogd restart
[06:36] <ethana2> I have a wireless driver that needs to be reloaded as part of the resume process
[06:36] <nossralsuva> amh: if you're having trouble installing swat, you could try to use webmin, google the word webmin
[06:37] <zetheroo1> ddgoose: that recreates them?
[06:37] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: any questions?
[06:37] <ethana2> How do I do this?
[06:37] <ethana2> I'm digging around in /etc/acpi/*.d directories
[06:37] <CaptainMorgan> xishere, I'm only familiar with xmodmap as it refers to IBM/Lenovo... specifically for laptops, for which I would've referred you over to ThinkWiki, but that's not your case...
[06:37] <ethana2> It seems I'm supposed to unload the driver on suspend, and reload it on resume
[06:37] <CaptainMorgan> how can I adjust the options in the gnome terminal so that it does *not* warn me when I'm closing multiple tabs? I looked in the Profile Edit options but couldn't find that value... I previously set it for a different system, and I don't recall that it was in there...
[06:37] <ethana2> ..ideally
[06:38] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, yeah syslog will complain but will make them for you
[06:38] <_2> nossralsuva file /etc/adduser.conf   section # If DIR_MODE is set, directories will be created with the specified # mode. Otherwise the default mode 0755 will be used. <<line>>  DIR_MODE=0755   <<< that's the security setting that controls it.
[06:38] <amh> sloopy:  swat is installed.  i typed it in and now it just returned to a blank line in terminal.
[06:38] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: i use a key press instead of mouse-clicking
[06:38] <nossralsuva> _2: omg, sweeeeeeeeeeeet
[06:39] <nossralsuva> :2: lemme looking to that, i will set it up in my /etc/skel
[06:39] <vegombrei> how do i unrar files in ubuntu ?
[06:39] <zetheroo1> ddgoose: hmmm nothing still in the Log Viewer
[06:39] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: xmodmap is useful
[06:39] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, which files did you remove?
[06:40] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, PM
[06:40] <sloopy> amh, now open firefox and go to http://localhost:901/
[06:40] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: see u
[06:40] <heret1c> vegombrei: sudo apt-get install unrar.
[06:41]  * xishere i am working.........
[06:41] <scientes_> should i use KVM or Xen?
[06:41] <CaptainMorgan> keypress?
[06:41] <amh> sloopy: failed to connect in firefox
[06:41] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: yes
[06:41] <_2> nossralsuva you need to understand octal permissions before changing that.    the four octal bits there are  special owner group world(other)    you probably want to leave the 'special' bit zero always.   the others are  octal for --- binary    read write execute  (extra note; dir's must be executable to desend into them)
[06:41] <lianimator> on ext3, what if I have fragmentation due to no free disk space. after I clear some space, how do I defrag? do I need a defrag program or can i do something simpler, like move the file, or view the file?
[06:42] <heret1c> vegombrei: or search "unrar" in synaptic.
[06:42] <xishere> CaptainMorgan:  now when i press the Win key, just like you left click your mouse
[06:42] <Flannel> !defrag | lianimator
[06:42] <nossralsuva>  _2: gotcha on that one
[06:43] <CaptainMorgan> xishere, sorry, I'm not sure what you're talking about - wish I could be more help.
[06:43] <_2> nossralsuva 0755 translates to  rwxr-xr-x    while 0700 would be rwx------   if you need more info just ask.
[06:43] <johnny05> Having a problem with a external extension version of gd. I guess i need to install a php5 that has gd already compiled in. Anyone know what that even means?
[06:43] <vegombrei> heret1c: installing ..
[06:44] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: and when i press the grave key (under ESC), just like click the middle button of the mouse
[06:44] <vinaduro_> qmr: for interest sake, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-ose-modules/+bug/303199 <[06:44] <vegombrei> heret1c: hey i have a question ... i have this bluetooth headset that i can use as headphones with my mac .. i tried to pair it with ubuntu .. it shows up and pairs but it doesnt send audio to it
[06:45] <heret1c> vegombrei: sudo apt-get install sbackup  while you're at it. :)
[06:45] <nossralsuva> i have a fedora domain controller with samba running, at my little small business (graphical printing) so i get to deal with permissions on a daily bunch,
[06:45] <jganetsk> untu
[06:45] <soulmasterhyc> holaaaaaaaaa
[06:45] <soulmasterhyc> como estan?
[06:45] <nossralsuva> _2: i thank you for that insight
[06:45] <soulmasterhyc> hay alguien ???????
[06:45] <jganetsk> i have the 64-bit flash plugin from adobe, i want drop the .so file into the proper directory, i've already put it into every possible plugin directory
[06:45] <soulmasterhyc> alguno de argentina
[06:45] <soulmasterhyc> manes
[06:45] <jganetsk> can someone tell me the proper directory to put it in?
[06:45] <soulmasterhyc> hello????
[06:45] <xishere> yes, i want ask you, can xmodmap map ONE key to "Shift+F10" or "Alt + Esc" etc.
[06:45]  * _2 does sudo chmod 0001 /  ### kids don't try this at home!
[06:45] <nossralsuva> _2: we will be moving our servers over to ubuntu 8.04 here within the nxt few months
[06:45]  * vinaduro_ out
[06:46] <ChrisDavaz> how do I figure out the device file that corresponds to my microphone?
[06:46] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: yes, i want ask you, can xmodmap map ONE key to "Shift+F10" or "Alt + Esc" etc.
[06:46] <jganetsk> i repeat, does anyoen know, for ubuntu 8.04, what is the plugin directory for firefox?
[06:46] <_2> nossralsuva k.   good luck to your pinguin
[06:46] <BlueEraser> if i am downloading this for the first time and i want 64 bit version.  should i get 8.04 or 8.10?
[06:46] <nossralsuva> i love our penguin over the macs
[06:46] <Ahadiel>  jganetsk maybe in ~/.mozilla/firefox?
[06:46] <xishere> CaptainMorgan:  i.e. ONE key acts more than one key
[06:46] <CaptainMorgan> xishere, I believe it can
[06:46] <CaptainMorgan> not sure how
[06:47] <jganetsk> Ahadiel, that one does not seem to have any of my pre-existing plugins
[06:47] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: ok, can your tell how to?
[06:47] <jganetsk> i also have the task of getting rid of teh old flash player plugin
[06:47] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: If you got it, plz tell me
[06:47] <CaptainMorgan> not sure how
[06:47] <heret1c> jganetsk: look in yr /home/.mozilla dir
[06:47] <nossralsuva> _2: but the macs make us the dough using quarkxpress, whilst the linux sides run the networks and all our printers and plotters (HP designjets 5500)
[06:47] <_2> heret1c no such dir
[06:47] <jganetsk> heret1c, no files in the plugins directory, i just added my player, doesn't seem to be turning up
[06:47] <BlueEraser> anyone want to help me with my newb question?
[06:48] <sketch_> noob
[06:48] <sketch_>  whats the q
[06:48] <CaptainMorgan> how can I adjust the options in the gnome terminal so that it does *not* warn me when I'm closing multiple tabs? I looked in the Profile Edit options but couldn't find that value... I previously set it for a different system, and I don't recall that it was in there...
[06:48] <BlueEraser> i saw that the 8.04 version is going to be supported longer, would that be the best one to download?
[06:48] <nossralsuva> BlueEraser: just ask the question, try not to ask us to ask a question, just go ahead and splurt it out and wait for a reply
[06:48] <heret1c> jganetsk: did u restart ff?
[06:48] <jganetsk> heret1c many times
[06:49] <onetinsoldier> sketch_: he wants to know if he should get 8.04 or 8.10. he asked earlier
[06:49] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: do you use ubuntu ?
[06:49] <sketch_> download 8.10 noob
[06:49] <jganetsk> it still shows my old npwrapper plugin
[06:49] <onetinsoldier> lol
[06:49] <BlueEraser> why?
[06:49] <sketch_> or order the cd
[06:49] <CaptainMorgan> xishere, that would be why I'm in here, yes. :) Now please understand - I can't help you. If I could, I would be happy to.
[06:49] <lianimator> Flannel: I've read that article before, and I've read it again, but it doesn't answer my question.
[06:49] <nossralsuva> BlueEraser: i agree, 8.10, get it
[06:49] <_2> heret1c i assume that was a typo ?    /home/ != $HOME
[06:49] <n8tuser> CaptainMorgan-> gconf-editor  and dig down to gnome-terminal global settings
[06:49] <sketch_> its the most updated has drivers right in the install its great
[06:49] <heret1c> jganetsk: what player?
[06:49] <Flannel> lianimator: In order to defrag: convert to ext2, defrag, convert to ext3
[06:49] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: thanks
[06:49] <ethana2> I added code to reload the driver in the module loading script in resume.d
[06:50] <sketch_> i installed it and it asked me if I want to install my wifi card right away
[06:50] <jganetsk> the 64-bit linux flash player 10
[06:50] <ethana2> but it didn't work somehow
[06:50] <CaptainMorgan> ahh!!! n8tuser thank you! I forgot about that one...
[06:50] <Flannel> !noob | sketch_
[06:50] <jganetsk> oh i think i got it
[06:50] <sketch_> and then after the wifi card was working , it asked me if i want to install the video driver its great
[06:50] <jganetsk> the old plugin was in /var/lib somehow
[06:50] <vegombrei> heret1c: whats sbackup needed for ?
[06:50] <BlueEraser> sounds nice
[06:50] <jganetsk> yeah i got it
[06:50] <heret1c> _2: yes. .*)
[06:50] <BlueEraser> did you use the 64-bit?
[06:50] <sketch_> no
[06:50] <lianimator> Flannel: I was thinking, since ext3 reduces fragmentation, what if I make a copy of that file, and delete the old one?
[06:50] <sketch_> 32
[06:50] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: one more question
[06:51] <Flannel> lianimator: Why do you think your file is fragmented?
[06:51] <sketch_> the reg one for dektops 8.10
[06:51] <nossralsuva> BlueEraser: i ran the 64 bit
[06:51] <heret1c> jganetsk: backup.
[06:51] <BlueEraser> think 64bit will be significantly more hairy?
[06:51] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: now i write the xmodmap command to the $HOME/.profile
[06:51] <jganetsk> ok
[06:51] <nossralsuva> but i had some issues like realplayer and other applications which were not yet supported at this time
[06:51] <sketch_> it would prob work well
[06:52] <nossralsuva> BlueEraser: yes, i ran the 64 bit,but i had some issues like realplayer and other applications which were not yet supported at this time
[06:52] <sketch_> but more pple have the x86 versions sooo more drivers more support u know
[06:52] <BlueEraser> nossralsuva, like what?
[06:52] <sketch_> yeah put the reg one
[06:52] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: if you want xmodmap auto-startup, where should you put it?
[06:52] <lianimator> Flannel: because my partition is full. it's near full all the time, and the last couple of files I put there are very slow to scan. (bittorrent file verifying). I used filefrag to scan the file. It has over "15K extents where perfection would be 3".
[06:52] <BlueEraser> nossralsuva, other than real player i mean
[06:53] <nossralsuva> BlueEraser: my Realplayer, that i used on the x86 version, did not work when it came to listening to the BFBS
[06:53] <Flannel> lianimator: you could try copy/delete, sure.
[06:53] <xishere> CaptainMorgan: now i write the xmodmap command to the $HOME/.profile if you want xmodmap auto-startup, where should you put it?.
[06:53] <_2> lianimator copy and del will affectively remove fragmentation of a file in many cases even on vfat/ntfs
[06:53] <nossralsuva> BlueEraser: that is the British Forces Radio Station on the BBC
[06:53] <CaptainMorgan> would someone mind explaining etiquette to our dear friend?
[06:53] <sketch_> i had to update the flash video player
[06:53] <lianimator> _2: okay, thanks..
[06:53] <sketch_> i had to update the gstream thing
[06:54] <BlueEraser> nossralsuva, ok, i stream democracynow! on that pretty often
[06:54] <nossralsuva> BlueEraser: besides way more people are using the x86 version so way more pool of people
[06:54] <CaptainMorgan> !etiquette
[06:54] <sketch_> and install some programs eclipse python java and the java runtime
[06:54] <_2> lianimator side effect of doing so on those M$ filesystems is that the fs it's self becomes more fragmented.
[06:54] <alkisg> Hi, is there any easy way to resize a window (e.g. gedit) to exactly 640x480? Maybe some command line windows manipulating tool?
[06:54] <CaptainMorgan> !Repeat | xishere
[06:54] <xishere> ubottu: ok..sorry
[06:55] <xishere> CaptainMorgan:  sorry
[06:55] <_2> lianimator i.e. while seeking to right one wrong you can create many more.     just a thought.
[06:55] <ethana2> xishere: goodness gracious me, you're doing odder stuff with your keyboard than I am
[06:55] <BlueEraser> nossralsuva, yeah, i know that x64 is the future though and though maybe i would be able to help iron some things out, probably a long shot though i know
[06:55] <sketch_> alkisg goto system prefs then resolution
[06:55] <nossralsuva> BlueEraser: by the way, welcome to the community, and i hope you learn so that you can give back, too
[06:55] <xishere> ethana2:  what did you do with you keyboard?
[06:55] <lianimator> _2: you mean, for MS filesystems right? or for ext3 also?
[06:55] <ethana2> xishere: www.colemak.com
[06:55] <ethana2> caps lock > backspace
[06:56] <alkisg> sketch_: I don't want to set the resolution, I want to resize a window so that it is 640x480 (I need to take a screenshot of specific size).
[06:56] <xishere> oh,
[06:56] <jganetsk> heret1c: you are right, the 64-bit version is crap
[06:56] <xishere> i will check the site
[06:56] <lianimator> _2: I read somewhere that files on ext FS will be accessed faster if you accessed it many times.
[06:56] <te> What's a nice command line audio player that can take a directory as an argument?
[06:56] <BlueEraser> nossralsuva, why are they saying 64 bit is crap?
[06:56] <_2> lianimator particularly M$ file systems but i can't say that it will never happen on ext#
[06:57] <te> meaning: I'd like to play all the files from a nest of directories
[06:57] <te> randomly
[06:57] <_2> lianimator only because it keeps the file in ram
[06:57] <lianimator> _2: okay thanks
[06:57] <xishere> ethana2: i want to know where you write your xmodmap command for auto-starup
[06:57] <nossralsuva> BlueEraser: it still needs some work, vista 64 bit, has some issues too
[06:57] <_2> lianimator only because it keeps the file in ram << a reboot undoes the multi-access benifit
[06:57] <ethana2> Anyone know why my suspend resume scripts aren't being run?
[06:57] <sloopy> windows xp 64bit has alot of issues...
[06:58] <nossralsuva> BlueEraser: that is why it has a directory for 32 bit applications and for 64 bit applications,
[06:58] <ethana2> xishere: I got confused, gave up, and turned repeat off globally
[06:58] <BlueEraser> nossralsuva, yeah no kidding, 7 wont even be 64bit only
[06:58] <ethana2> xishere: I mostly use ctrl for stuff now instead of holding keys down
[06:58] <lianimator> _2: okay. I think I understand about caching and so on.
[06:58] <ethana2> I only wish ctrl was where ' is...
[06:58] <_2> lianimator that's partly why you see linux using over 3g ram on a 4g system.    yes file caching
[06:58] <nossralsuva> BlueEraser: i think you will like it here, just be open to change, but accept a chance to learn something new and maybe different from what you were used to
[06:59] <lianimator> _2: oh, that's the "cached" that shows up in the memory usage graph of the system monitor applet.
[07:00] <_2> lianimator linux is not a ram hog   but it does use ram for file caching if it can.   my system is using less than 23m right now    Memory Used/Total Percent: 22/502 MB (4%)
[07:00] <lianimator> _2: on my 1GB. all 1GB is used.
[07:00] <ethana2> lianimator: means you're getting your money's worrth
[07:00] <ethana2> worth**
[07:01] <_2> lianimator not all of the ram   use   free -m
[07:01] <lianimator> _2: 22MB?? really?! I'm using 488 MB/1GB.. the rest are cached.
[07:01] <sloopy> hmmm makes me wish i had more then the 256Meg i have... a cpu faster then a 1Ghz P3 would be nice also...
[07:01] <ScarySquirrel> Hi, I have Linux Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) 2.6.27-10-generic GNOME 2.24.1, with 1 Gigabyte of memory, an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Processor, and 3.7 Gigabytes of disk space.
[07:01] <BlueEraser> nossralsuva: im grabbing 8.10 and got the 32 bit to start off with
[07:01] <ScarySquirrel> I have a problem.
[07:01] <sketch_> gn pple
[07:01] <ikonia> scribawf: what's up
[07:01] <scriptx> n
[07:01] <ikonia> ScarySquirrel: what's up
[07:02] <lianimator> _2: total: 1007; used: 989; free: 18; cached: 468;
[07:02] <ScarySquirrel> Has anyone heard of something where the volume change widget keeps spawning makes you lose your menus?
[07:02] <alex_mayorga> anyone else has seen a PC hard lock-up when installing using alternate CD at 64% (configuring libslp1) any solutions or workarounds appreciated
[07:02] <ikonia> ScarySquirrel: never seen that
[07:02] <mei> hi
[07:02] <lianimator> _2: you have a very small ram usage...
[07:03] <ikonia> alex_mayorga: first thing I'd do is run the CD check against the CD, then run the memcheck option on the PC for at least one full pass through (normally about 12 hours)
[07:03] <ScarySquirrel> Anyway, do you know how I can disable the volume change widget?
[07:03] <alex_mayorga> ikonia, thanks I'll try that
[07:03] <seravitae> hey i have some manpages that i want to read, but 'man' doesnt accept a file to actually open an external manpage. any ideas what the hell to do.
[07:03] <_2> lianimator it's intentional.   but that's one of those things that only counts if measuring cyber cookiness   and we arent
[07:04] <ScarySquirrel> Can anyone help me out with this volume changer widget problem?
[07:04] <nbeebo> if i get banned in ubuntu-offtopic can i get banned here too?
[07:05] <ScarySquirrel> Would someone help me with a problem with GNOME 2.24.1?
[07:05] <_2> nbeebo same ops.
[07:05] <lianimator> _2: okay. I want to install more ram. when I use vbox to run XP, 1GB isn't quite enough. and when I do photo editing. I'm still deciding if I should increase to 2GB or 4GB.. can't decide.
[07:05] <xishere> any people use the GTD software "Chandler" ?
[07:06] <alex_mayorga> ikonia, whats odd is that it always locks up at the exact same point
[07:06] <_2> lianimator get 4     unless the price is a problem, always get the larger; time will make it small
[07:06] <alex_mayorga> and I'm pretty sure the CD is fine, already checked for integrity in other PC
[07:06] <sloopy> lianimator, can never have too much cpu or ram...
[07:07] <_2> sloopy or hdd
[07:07] <alex_mayorga> lianimator, ditto on _2 and sloopy :)
[07:07] <ikonia> alex_mayorga: thats not odd
[07:07] <sloopy> _2, yeah you can, i have 1TB on home machine, nothing to fill it...
[07:07] <_2> sloopy movies
[07:08] <lyb> --
[07:08] <_2> sloopy while i don't advocate filth, yet to coin a phrase "dl more porn"
[07:08] <Flannel> Erm.
[07:08] <alex_mayorga> ikonia, I'm running the CD check on the hard locking machine right now, let see what comes up
[07:09] <GFree> I join the channel... and people are talking about Porn
[07:09] <GFree> Cool!
[07:09] <sloopy> i have more movies then time, tons of music, and all the contents of my last 10 years of DVD backups, still have more then %50 free
[07:09] <Flannel> _2: please keep the topic family friendly.
[07:09] <Gorilla1> hello people
[07:09] <_2> Flannel how was that non-family friendly ?
[07:09] <GFree> sloopy: that's the reason I don't bother hoarding. There's no point - you'll never have enough time
[07:09] <mimcpher> Large disks are nice.  You can do things like snapshotting file systems.
[07:10] <alex_mayorga> wonder how many TB would hold a whole human life of memories
[07:10] <sloopy> _2, nah never much into such stuff... i prefered my wife to a pic or movie of someone...
[07:10] <ethana2> sloopy: good for you..
[07:10]  * ethana2 wishes he was married
[07:10] <Gorilla1> ok... i need some help
[07:10] <ethana2> alex_mayorga: it would take many.
[07:10] <GFree> then get married
[07:10] <ScarySquirrel> Is ikonia the only user of this channel who provides good Ubuntu advice?
[07:10] <Flannel> !offtopic
[07:10] <Flannel> !ask | Gorilla1
[07:10] <sloopy> she may not be the prettiest woman on earth, but she is mine :´)
[07:10] <mimcpher> alex_mayorga, thats a vague question.  My grandmother kept a few thousand photographs, and diaries.  That would fit on a thumbdrive.  I'm filming high def home videos.  That takes more.
[07:11] <ethana2> GFree: working aaaaaand how do I reload kernel modules on resume?
[07:11] <_2> sloopy i plainly said i was only borrowing the phrase, as an expression that goes around IRC continually
[07:11] <sloopy> and the 1TB doesnt include the 300G OS HD
[07:11] <Flannel> _2: Not here it doesn't.  Please refrain from using it in the future
[07:11] <ScarySquirrel> I already have.  Twice.
[07:11]  * ethana2 cowers in confusion
[07:11] <Gorilla1> Is there a good GUI based download accelerator?
[07:12] <alex_mayorga> ikonia: the machine also always blames ccp-4.3 as corrupted, I think it's a memory thing :(
[07:12] <sloopy> _2 yeah i know many who consume vast resources for the accumulation of such things... never saw the point, know one guy who lost his wife cause of it...
[07:12] <GFree> Gorilla1: I use downloader for x (apt-get d4x)
[07:12] <zetheroo1> Flannel: sorry to jump on you like this ... but do you have any insight in finding out why a kernel panics
[07:12] <zetheroo1> ?
[07:12] <ScarySquirrel> Hello everyone.  How may I fix a problem where the Volume Control Widget Popup keeps respawning and increasing the volume when I press the volume change button on my laptop?   I'd have to throw out or sell out the 512MB x2 = 1GB currently installed.
[07:14] <GFree> Gorilla1: heh, sorry. Launch Synaptic, then search for d4x and install it from there.
[07:14] <Gorilla1> sweet
[07:14] <alex_mayorga> ikonia, the CD works perfectly in other hosts and it oddly always crashes on the exact same point and claims the CD is corrupt also in the precise same file
[07:14] <ikonia> alex_mayorga: that makes sense then
[07:14] <bakarat_> hmm in the latest update i can't seem to install linux-image-2.6.27.-9-generic and 4 other packages
[07:14] <U-b-u-n-t-u> anyone here stream mp3
[07:14] <bakarat_> dpkg: error processing linux-generic (--configure):
[07:14] <bakarat_>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[07:14] <Flannel> zetheroo1: Besides checking the logs it gives, not after the fact no.
[07:15] <U-b-u-n-t-u> was going to try it out but I havent tried it with ubuntu
[07:15] <alex_mayorga> lianimator: is it for a laptop? I can gladly receive it if you were kind enough to mail it :)
[07:15] <lianimator> alex_mayorga: it's for a laptop yes. DDR2.
[07:15] <GFree> Gorilla1: one more thing - if you like it, you can integrated support for D4X in firefox. Install the "Flashgot" extension in Firefox, and you'll be provided the option to download with D4X when you do to download something.
[07:15] <zetheroo1> Flannel: I have been told that kernel panics are not recorded in the logs
[07:15] <GFree> ok, gta
[07:15] <GFree> gtg
[07:15] <sloopy> lianimator, can you put it in my laptop? i am suffering with an anemic 256MB of ram...
[07:15] <Gorilla1> gfree your a gangster
[07:16] <Flannel> zetheroo1: They won't be recorded after the fact, no.  But logs leading up to them may be useful.
[07:16] <alex_mayorga> sloopy: I asked first ;)
[07:16] <Flannel> zetheroo1: If you're serious about it, theres a few resources about it, this one looks rather good (cursory google search): http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/kernel-lockup.htm
[07:16] <sloopy> alex_mayorga, i am more desperate? ;´D
[07:17] <zetheroo1> Flannel: well it happens about once or twice a day ... so I am pretty sure i want to find out whats going on
[07:17] <Gorilla1> I just switched to linux today, but i think i got the hang of it already...
[07:17] <ChrisDavaz> is there a program or something I can use to increase microphone sensitivity for pulseaudio?
[07:18] <alex_mayorga> sloopy: lets lianimator decide what postage is cheaper, I'm in Mexico :)
[07:18] <xiangfu> ChrisDavaz: try alsamixer -Dhw
[07:19] <ChrisDavaz> xiangfu, alsamixer works for pulseaudio??
[07:19] <sloopy> alex_mayorga, both of us would be quite a bit of pesos to send... considering its in thailand...
[07:20]  * alex_mayorga wonders if there's an #ubuntu-swap-old-hardware kind of project
[07:20] <sloopy> not to mention this machine uses PC133 dram...
[07:20] <xiangfu> ChrisDavaz: i don't understand that all . but in my ubuntu. i can change volume under alsamixer , and the System-Administrion->Sound all use pulseaudio.
[07:21] <alex_mayorga> sloopy: I know I'm desperately in the hunt for PC100 for mom's PC
[07:21] <nick__> Hey, where can I get some help with my wireless?
[07:21] <xiangfu> ChrisDavaz: System->Preference->Sound
[07:21] <sloopy> alex_mayorga, i have that sitting around at home...
[07:21] <homecable> anyone have a fast internet wget http://joey.punked.us/files/php-5.2.6.tar.bz2  and tell me ur max speed
[07:21] <homecable> i need about 100 users to dl that
[07:21] <homecable> testing server load
[07:21] <Gorilla1> ok...i found a problem...how do i tell someone?
[07:21] <Flannel> homecable: This isn't the place for that.
[07:22] <Flannel> !bugs | Gorilla1
[07:22] <homecable> whats a good place for that ?
[07:22] <alex_mayorga> sloopy, L?
[07:23] <nick__> Hello
[07:23] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: do you happen to know if there's such a place #ubuntu-swap-old-hardware
[07:23] <Parvo> hello
[07:23] <alex_mayorga> Parvo: hi
[07:23] <nick__> I need some help with wireless
[07:23] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: No, but you might look into your LoCo team
[07:23] <xiangfu> nick__: just ask.
[07:23] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: I'm my LoCo team for now, unofficial of course
[07:24] <ddgoose> homecable,   1.16M/s
[07:24] <nick__> Ummm, ok. Well it was working a minute ago, then I restarted, and, nothing
[07:25] <xiangfu> homecable: 2M cable:   37.8K/s
[07:25] <sloopy> L?
[07:25] <U-b-u-n-t-u> !streaming | U-b-u-n-t-u
[07:25] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: that's not true.  The mexico team is fairly well established.
[07:25] <Flannel> !mx | alex_mayorga
[07:25] <Pitel_laptop> http://cz.youtube.com/watch?v=oGlhgVz5r6E WANT!
[07:25] <lianimator> sloopy: alex_mayorga: let me try to sell it first? reduce the cost of the new RAM.
[07:25] <Flannel> alex_mayorga: Eh, #ubuntu-mx, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMxTeam
[07:25] <lianimator> sloopy: I'm in thailand. (asia)
[07:25] <homecable> ddgoose try dling it  1 more time changing seting on my cisco router to enable more speed
[07:25] <Pitel_laptop>  /msg NickServ identify Pitel
[07:25] <nick__> whatever, i gotta go.
[07:26] <lianimator> Pitel_laptop: oops, is that your password?
[07:26] <sloopy> lianimator, i know i said that :´)
[07:26] <alex_mayorga> Flannel: I'm in the .mx team myself, I'll ask around
[07:26] <sloopy> i think that pw is compromised
[07:26] <ddgoose> homecable, ok
[07:26] <homecable> k
[07:26] <Flannel> Pitel_laptop: Please remember to change your nickserv password, and also keep it on topic, youtube videos are not.
[07:27] <dangit> i read somewhere that they are including openoffice 3.0 sometime in this release, is that correct?
[07:27] <Flannel> dangit: No.  It'll be in -backports for Intrepid, but won't ever "officially" be in Intrepid.  It's in Jaunty though.
[07:27] <ikonia> dangit: no
[07:27] <ddgoose> homecable, worse -> 607.76K/s
[07:27] <alex_mayorga> !mx is For Ubuntu Mexico visit #ubuntu-mx or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuMxTeam
[07:27] <dangit> Flannel, ikonia ah damn
[07:28] <homecable> i seen it hit 1684.13
[07:28] <ikonia> homecable: ?
[07:28] <homecable> try 1 more time
[07:28] <homecable> ikonia ?
[07:28] <ikonia> homecable: seen what hit 1684.13 ?
[07:28] <Flannel> homecable: Please stop doing that here.
[07:28] <alex_mayorga> !LoCo | alex_mayorga
[07:28] <zetheroo1> Flannel: thanks for that link ... but its really a fair bit over my head ... :(  seems that locating the causes of crashes etc is a lot simpler in Win XP Pro ... I thought Linux would be easier or at least as easy ...
[07:30] <alex_mayorga> zetheroo1: If the crash reporter doesn't catch it, then it wouldn't be too easy unless you're a bit experienced/want to dig
[07:30] <zetheroo1> alex_mayorga: crash reporter?
[07:31] <dangit> i'm trying to install ubuntu by adding "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main" to my source, but it doesn't seem to work?
[07:31] <Flannel> dangit: The PPA is down due to some issues, it should be back up sometime this week.
[07:32] <alex_mayorga> !crash | zetheroo1
[07:32] <dangit> Flannel, ah ok :>
[07:32] <ScarySquirrel>      I have had some problems with something called the "Volume control OSD of Gnome-settings-daemon".
[07:32] <ScarySquirrel>      Currently, the Volume Control Widget Popup keeps respawning and increasing or decreasing the volume repeatedly when I press either of the volume change buttons on my laptop.
[07:32] <ScarySquirrel>      If I cannot fix this problem, how do I disable this popup widget?
[07:33] <rage> Is there a simple little program that I can use in a shell script to display those tray balloon tips?
[07:33] <alex_mayorga> rage: libnotify I believe
[07:34] <rage> mmm, I'll investigate
[07:36] <BlueEraser> ScarySquirrel, sorry you cant seem to find help, i have seen all of your messages, but cant help you
[07:36] <BlueEraser> ScarySquirrel: not sure why no one pays you any mind
[07:37] <students> jo
[07:37] <students> hi
[07:37] <students> niga niga
[07:37] <students> riga riga
[07:37] <alex_mayorga> ScarySquirrel, you can right click the speaker icon in the panel and remove it, not sure that would help
[07:38] <Gorilla1> so
[07:38] <Gorilla1> who's alive
[07:38] <energY> I am
[07:39] <maxagaz> i've got an ipod, it says there's no music and video in it, but when i plug it, rythmbox can find my music, it's a problem with unmounting, what can i do ?
[07:39] <Gorilla1> ok
[07:39] <Gorilla1> today is my first day with linux
[07:39] <Brack10> I'm trying to install Kubuntu 8.10 on a Dell OptiPlex GX260 with 512mb ram and a 40 gig IDE western digital hard drive.  It looks like the installer is detecting the HDD as a SCSI RAID...so when I go to install it freezes at "Scanning Mirror" and if I cancel the installation at that point it boots up to a corrupt install which doesn't work.  Any ideas what I can do about this?
[07:39] <Brack10> nice, Gorilla1
[07:40] <Brack10> How's she treating you so far?
[07:40] <Gorilla1> i think i got the hang of it
[07:40] <magic_ninja> !upgrade
[07:40] <Gorilla1> love the effects
[07:40] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, you will need to catch the panic on the tty console and get a snap of it to really see whats causing it
[07:41] <Gorilla1> i tried mandrake 9 awhile back didnt care for it much...
[07:41] <zetheroo1> ddgoose: will commands work with a kernel panic?
[07:41] <zetheroo1> ddgoose: like these commands .... Alt+SysRq+1 followed by Alt+SysRq+t
[07:41] <Gorilla1> brack..are you sure its lockin up o the scanning mirror it could just take a really long time...
[07:42] <Brack10> Gorilla1:  Pretty sure, I waited about half an hour
[07:42] <danidanko> Hi
[07:42] <Gorilla1> are you doing a net install?
[07:43] <matt> Does anyone know if the nVidia legacy drivers were ever supported for compiz?
[07:43] <dnyy> I uninstalled an app, but it still has a link in the 'start' menu.  When I go to edit menus, it doesn't show up there.  Any way to manually remove it?
[07:43] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, magic SysReq keys should work if you have a panic, check and see if you have a file called '/proc/sys/kernel/sysrq'
[07:44] <Brack10> also, when I launch the LiveCD it will boot all the way in and instantly freeze.  The clock stays in the same place and everything
[07:44] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, if not, it's not compiled into your kernel
[07:44] <Gorilla1> sounds like a KDE issure
[07:45] <Brack10> a KDE issue
[07:45] <Gorilla1> your using the kubuntu right
[07:45] <Brack10> yes
[07:45] <Gorilla1> try the standard
[07:45] <Gorilla1> gnome
[07:45] <Brack10> ok
[07:45] <Brack10> maybe force it to think my drive is IDE instead of SCSI?
[07:46] <Brack10> I'm pretty sure that's why it's freezing
[07:46] <Brack10> because it's trying to scan my SCSI mirror drive which doesn't exist
[07:46] <Gorilla1> i dont think you would even get a clean install if it was seeing scsi
[07:46] <zetheroo1> ddgoose: yes sysrq is there
[07:46] <Brack10> no it's an IDE drive
[07:46] <Gorilla1> yeah
[07:46] <[c0re]> hi is there any gui font manager?
[07:46] <Gorilla1> set you bios to defaults
[07:47] <Gorilla1> turn off raid
[07:47] <Brack10> It's just one IDE drive
[07:47] <Brack10> this computer has no RAID controller
[07:47] <Gorilla1> i tried to do a fedora install it was doing the same thing you are describing
[07:47] <zetheroo1> ddgoose: so those commands should work?
[07:47] <Gorilla1> neither the live or the install worked
[07:47] <matt> Hey everyone, Can anyone tell me if the nVidia legacy drivers were ever supported for compiz?
[07:48] <Tekno> Tried googleing?
[07:48] <Tekno> I think it should work with legacy drivers
[07:48] <[c0re]> !fonts
[07:48] <Tekno> can't be sure
[07:48] <SmokeyD> hey people. When should one use the i386 kernels instead of the generic ones?
[07:48] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, yeah
[07:48] <Flannel> SmokeyD: If you have a 386 (a real 386) that's having issues with the -generic ones
[07:48] <zetheroo1> ddgoose: cool .. and then I will be able to see the cause?
[07:49] <Gorilla1> brack is you machine 64 bit
[07:49] <Brack10> no it's not
[07:49] <Gorilla1> interesting
[07:49] <matt> It didn't when intrepid was first released, and I don't want to crash my system, again.
[07:49] <Brack10> athlon XP 3200+
[07:49] <Brack10> oh wait sorry p4 2500 mhz
[07:49] <Gorilla1> ive got a 2500+ althlon XP
[07:49] <SmokeyD> ok, because most of the processors which aren't 64bit are i386 processors right Flannel? But you mean the real, ancient 386 processors?
[07:49] <Gorilla1> runs clean
[07:50] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, you will need to be in the console, ie alt+ctrl+F1 when it crashes to see the output
[07:50] <Brack10> this is frustrating
[07:50] <Brack10> I'm so damn sick of windows
[07:50] <Gorilla1> you might try the live ubuntu
[07:50] <Gorilla1> windows has its up and its downs
[07:50] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, the top part of the output should say what it was that caused it
[07:50] <Brack10> oh ok if I have better luck with the ubuntu live cd....can I install Kubuntu from the Ubuntu live cd?
[07:50] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, then I use sysreq i this order to safe reboot -> s e i u b
[07:50] <Gorilla1> kubuntu is just ubuntu with KDE interface
[07:51] <Brack10> right
[07:51] <Gorilla1> yes it can be done
[07:51] <Flannel> SmokeyD: correct.  i386 is a generic term for all "intel compatable 32bit yadda yadda".  The -386 is there because sometimes the old processors don't agree with the runtime optimization checks the -generic does (because they were created after the 386 was shipped, etc)
[07:51] <Brack10> sweet
[07:51] <Flannel> !reisub | ddgoose, zetheroo1
[07:51] <Gorilla1> you have to install all the packages and dependences
[07:51] <Brack10> how do I do it? create the file structure manually and copy the files from the CD?
[07:51] <SmokeyD> Flannel: ok, thanks
[07:51] <Brack10> oh
[07:52] <scientes_> can i change the level of control on debian-conf when installing with synaptic? so that synaptic asks me about settings on installed packages?
[07:52] <Gorilla1> no boot into ubuntu, tell it to install kde from the sysnaptic thing
[07:52] <ddgoose> Flannel, thanks didn't know that one was in ubottu :P
[07:52] <Brack10> I see
[07:53] <Gorilla1> ive used kde 3.X but honestly its like a left hand or a right hand
[07:53] <Gorilla1> either way its a hand
[07:53] <Brack10> I just honestly like the way it looks better
[07:53] <Brack10> GNOME is kinda ugly
[07:54] <Gorilla1> its in the eye of the beholder
[07:54] <Gorilla1> if you cant install the ubuntu then you have problem
[07:54] <zetheroo1> ddgoose; I don't understand then what those other commands are for?
[07:54] <samdahippman> The backtrack3 KDE desktop is definitely hot
[07:54] <Brack10> agreed
[07:54] <Gorilla1> my buddy uses backtrack3
[07:55] <Brack10> backtrack is sweet except it doesn't have that one program the auditor did
[07:55] <samdahippman> STD is cool too
[07:55] <Brack10> the really useful exploit scanner
[07:55] <samdahippman> whick one is that
[07:55] <Gorilla1> thats outta my book
[07:56] <Brack10> trying to remember
[07:56] <samdahippman> anyways, don't want to go to far off topic or ubot will get mad
[07:56] <Gorilla1> ok have any of you used winforlin or wine on a game such as grand theft auto sa?
[07:57] <samdahippman> if you play games in sandbox or vm, it will just slow it down
[07:58] <Gorilla1> i understand that
[07:58] <Gorilla1> its more to process
[07:58] <Gorilla1> can it be done
[07:58] <Gorilla1> which is best?
[07:58] <samdahippman> of course
[07:58] <samdahippman> probably sandbox....like wine
[07:58] <Gorilla1> alrighty...
[07:59] <samdahippman> smaller footprint
[07:59] <samdahippman> \
[07:59] <samdahippman> is better
[07:59] <Gorilla1> yeah
[07:59] <Gorilla1> mem issues im sure..
[07:59] <samdahippman> yeah
[08:00] <Gorilla1> ok
[08:00] <Brack10> I need to switch all my work desktops to Ubuntu instead of upgrading to Vista
[08:00] <Gorilla1> vista is like shoe 2 sizes to small
[08:00] <holymoo> Brack10:  coolness
[08:00] <samdahippman> this chat is so much better than socail networks, talking tech is so much better than that trash
[08:01] <Gorilla1> ok...i was reading up on the super computer aka the roadrunner
[08:01] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, they help you safely restart you machine after a kernel panic
[08:01] <samdahippman> you got that right Brack.....Vista belongs in the trash bin
[08:01] <holymoo> Brack10: what windows software do you need to support on linux?
[08:01] <zetheroo1> ddgoose: oh
[08:02] <Gorilla1> linux under windows is like a fat cheerleader.
[08:02] <Brack10> holymoo: the only thing would be this parts pro software
[08:02] <samdahippman> linux has everything
[08:02] <samdahippman> almost
[08:02] <Brack10> some proprietary parts software only for windows
[08:02] <Gorilla1> has everthing for free
[08:02] <holymoo> Brack10: a couple of options depending on your requirements:
[08:02] <holymoo> 1. crossover office ... check their site
[08:03] <holymoo> 2. vmware with a winxp image
[08:03] <Gorilla1> yep
[08:03] <zetheroo1> ddgoose: this is what the Ubuntu Docs say:   When the crash occurs, press Alt+SysRq+1 (one, not L) followed by Alt+SysRq+t. If using a text console, you should see a trace dumped to the screen. If the system is sufficiently alive, it will also be logged to /var/log/kern.log and visible in the output from dmesg.  This information shows where the crash occurred, and should be included in any problem reports.
[08:03] <samdahippman> check the linux appfinder
[08:03] <holymoo> 3. if you have a windows server available on the network/vpn, just give them rdp access
[08:03] <Brack10> yeah I don't really like that vmware option
[08:03] <Brack10> oh true
[08:03] <holymoo> what we are doing is basically just running win2k3 servers for the small amount of win apps and giving them access over rdp for most situations
[08:04] <holymoo> just depends on requirements i guess
[08:04] <Gorilla1> vmware is the shit
[08:04] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, yeah that should work
[08:04] <Brack10> so then I can just set the windows VM to boot straight into the remote desktop program
[08:05] <Gorilla1> kinda
[08:05] <Gorilla1> yes
[08:05] <samdahippman> vmware kicks: if you got the balls to ride the vm machine
[08:05] <zetheroo1> ddgoose: what does it mean by "if using a text console"? does that mean you cannot be logged into Gnome when the crash occurs?
[08:05] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, yes correct
[08:06] <Brack10> also I need a mail client that can hook up to Exchange, Holymoo
[08:06] <Chiliblack> Brack10, evolution does that
[08:06] <samdahippman> you can run your windows partition in the linux partition with vmware
[08:06] <zetheroo1> ddgoose: but what if the crash does not occur unless Iam logged in?>
[08:06] <Gorilla1> see configure the sever in vmware then ghost it to the system when you get on site..its saves hours and hours of config time...
[08:06] <ddgoose> zetheroo1, if you want to see the trace you need to be on the console, otherwise it will show up in the log
[08:06] <Brack10> oh yeah also, I need to run FileMaker Pro 9
[08:06] <Brack10> I forgot about that
[08:07] <Gorilla1> what kinda files does it make?
[08:07] <psteyn> Hi, how can I get Open Office 3.x installed?
[08:07] <Gorilla1> psteyn download it.
[08:07] <SmokeyD> hey people. Both in tilda and yakuake terminals under gnome I have the problem that at the bottom of the terminals, text is not always displayed. Commands are executed, the text of the terminals is just not refreshed.
[08:07] <gurrier> Can someone please help me confirm that under latest Hardy repos `md5sum /pool/main/g/gtkspell/gtkspell_2.0.10.orig.tar.gz` equates to eab7318b3bda1d38d694ba029b06bb3a
[08:08] <Brack10> Gorilla1: it's kinda like Access, it's a DIY database design prog
[08:08] <zetheroo1> does Pidgin work with webcams?
[08:08] <SmokeyD> when I hit enter a couple of times, the lines which should have been displayed at the bottom move up and are displayed higher up in the terminal
[08:08] <jabiim> hello
[08:08] <Gorilla1> nice
[08:08] <Myrtti> zetheroo1: no
[08:08] <Gorilla1> your a DB guy
[08:08] <scriptx> zetheroo1: no
[08:08] <jabiim> I trying to get webmin to run on my Ubuntu 8.10
[08:08] <SmokeyD> it is kind of unpredictable. Sometimes everything at the bottom of the terminal is displayed normally, sometimes it is not and I have to hit enter a couple of times
[08:08] <zetheroo1> so what can be used to webcam ? ... in Yahoo
[08:08] <Brack10> kinda
[08:09] <Brack10> FileMaker is pretty lame
[08:09] <energY> zetheroo1: Amsn does
[08:09] <Gorilla1> im all hardware
[08:09] <Brack10> doesn't support tables
[08:09] <psteyn> Gorilla1: thanks genious.  where from?  I obviously need to use an apt mirror instead of just grabbing it from openoffice.org but which is the one to use?
[08:09] <zetheroo1> for Yahoo?
[08:09] <jabiim> when I go to the file manager it says that my web browser doesn't support java
[08:09] <Gorilla1> wow that sad
[08:09] <energY> zetheroo1: no
[08:10] <holymoo> Brack10: not sure about mapi support.  we only do imap whether clients like it or not.
[08:10] <Gorilla1> most people dont know what they are buying
[08:10] <Gorilla1> its all good
[08:10] <zetheroo1> so what can i use to cam over yahoo?
[08:10] <Brack10> ah
[08:11] <Gorilla1> psteyn do you have an older version of open office installed
[08:11] <samdahippman> Brack10_: Check out this website;  http://www.treshna.com/bond/
[08:11] <cdnjay> http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml
[08:11] <jabiim> I am a newbie can someone please help me figure something out
[08:11] <Brack10> anyone have experience with OpenAFS?
[08:11] <scriptx> jabiim?
[08:11] <Flannel> psteyn: There's a PPA (Personal Package Archive) for OOo3 for Intrepid, but it's down at the moment due to some problems.  It should be back up sometime this week.
[08:11] <Gorilla1> jabiim open you browser and look for anything jave and install it.
[08:11] <samdahippman> just ask jabiim
[08:11] <SmokeyD> jabiim: state your question
[08:11] <Gorilla1> java
[08:11] <Myrtti> zetheroo1: I'm not sure there is any app yet that does webcam with yahoo.
[08:11] <samdahippman> Jabiim: just ask
[08:12] <chairman> can i use kde desktop wallpaper on ubuntu?
[08:12] <SmokeyD> jabiim: don't wait untill someone replies
[08:12] <jabiim> i have done that and three hours or more later I am still stuck
[08:12] <ziroday> Hi, I have an thinkpad t60 that experiences random freezes.
[08:12] <jabiim> I installed java and i don't know where else my problem could be
[08:12] <Flannel> jabiim: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java walks you through setting up java
[08:12] <samdahippman> jabiim: ask..... I'm listening
[08:13] <Gorilla1> you file browser tells you, you dont have it installed?
[08:13] <Gorilla1> sounds like Konk
[08:13] <jabiim> I am trying to run webmin from my Ubuntu 8.10 an d when I try to open the file manager it says that my web browser doesn't support java
[08:13] <samdahippman> jabiim: do you have the latest version? which version is running on your computer/
[08:13] <holymoo> !java
[08:14] <jabiim> the latest
[08:14] <Myrtti> jabiim: webmin?
[08:14] <Myrtti> !webmin | jabiim
[08:14] <samdahippman> jabiim: do you need to use webmin? can you use firefox?
[08:14] <jabiim> oh ok
[08:14] <Gorilla1> there you go
[08:14] <ikonia> samdahippman: webmin is not a web browser
[08:15] <Gorilla1> helping people one person at a time
[08:15] <samdahippman> I've never heard of it.
[08:15] <jabiim> I am using firefox for my web browser web min is a server
[08:15] <samdahippman> I just said it because that's what he called it
[08:15] <jabiim> can';t think of the word
[08:15] <scriptx> jabiim: webmin and plesk, etc, are really meant for servers..  Where should I be looking to understand why?
[08:21] <Syrre> hmmm ... just wondering ... is there any more nice proggys out there thats similar to gDesklets and Screenlets ? =P
[08:21] <ikonia> ziroday: syslog is a good start
[08:22] <ziroday> ikonia: thanks. do you know what the default hibernate manager/program is? I hear of tuxonice, pm-utils swuswap etc
[08:22] <ikonia> ziroday: what symptoms suggest a problem with suspend to disk ?
[08:22] <ikonia> ziroday: no idea off the top of my head, wthout being a suspend user
[08:23] <ziroday> ikonia: click the hibernate option, the half moon (suspend light) flashes, screen blanks but laptop does not turn off
[08:23] <ikonia> ziroday: interesting, I suggest tail -f on the syslog then clicking the button see what is said
[08:24] <BlueEraser> when installing ubuntu 8.10, how much memory should i dedicate to the swap, i have 2 gigs of ram
[08:24] <ikonia> BlueEraser: 4 gig is a good base
[08:24] <ikonia> BlueEraser: it allows you to use suspend and have swap space free
[08:25] <ziroday> ikonia: that sounds helpful. Also I know there are (were perhaps) issues with fglrx and suspend to disk however I am not sure if I am using fglrx or not as I have no xorg.conf. Is there any other way to check?
[08:25] <BlueEraser> ikonia: thank you
[08:25] <ikonia> ziroday: you are very correct, there are real issues with ati cards.
[08:25] <ohubuntu> i'm using virtualbox and after 10 minutes or so of not typing, virtualbox stops accepting keyboard input, is there something with standby or suspend mode in ubuntu that does this?
[08:26] <ikonia> ziroday: if you look at your xorg log you'll see what xorg drivers is being used
[08:26] <ziroday> ikonia: sweet thanks. Let me see
[08:26] <BlueEraser> ikonia: if i give more than that to swap will i get any advantages?
[08:26] <ikonia> BlueEraser: nope
[08:27] <BlueEraser> ikonia: k
[08:27] <ikonia> BlueEraser: if your swapping out double your ram, your machine will be on it's knees long before you know about it
[08:27] <loca|host> i have no "Screen and Graphics preferences"
[08:27] <loca|host> in my System>Administration menu
[08:27] <loca|host> did i miss something ?
[08:27] <ziroday> ikonia: I am using the radeon driver which I believe is open source and should have no issues. Correct me if I am wrong
[08:28] <ikonia> ziroday: I thought one of the core issues was with the "wake up" sequence of the card at a physical level, as well as the module re-loading on the closed source drivers
[08:28] <ikonia> ziroday: I'm not an ati/hibernate user so don't know for fact
[08:28] <ziroday> loca|host: that program has been depreciated in 8.10
[08:28] <ziroday> ikonia: okay, thanks!
[08:29] <loca|host> ziroday, so how to get a dual screen with my ATI card ?
[08:29] <gr1ff1n> hi everyone
[08:29] <ziroday> loca|host: see the program in System > Preferences > Screen Resolution if you are using open source drivers
[08:29] <gr1ff1n> can anyone could give an  IRC server and channel for java please ? many thanks
[08:30] <loca|host> ziroday, no am using ATI's prop driver
[08:30] <wiseman1> I have an issue
[08:30] <ziroday> gr1ff1n: ##java, but you should really ask in #freenode for channel directions
[08:30] <wiseman1> both my top and bottom tool bars have spontaneously vanished
[08:30] <ziroday> loca|host: okay, then you have to use ati's configuration tool.
[08:30] <loca|host> okay
[08:30] <ziroday> wiseman1: is the program gnome-panel running?
[08:30] <gr1ff1n> ziroday: thanks I ll try
[08:31] <wiseman1> ziroday: how would I verify that?
[08:31] <ziroday> wiseman1: pastebin the output of ps ax | grep gnome-panel
[08:31] <pu154r> hi could someone build me or give me a link to a alternativ php version because on my 8.10 ubuntu server is php damged yesterday i told it ( fcgi / cgi + php problem) ,...
[08:31] <wiseman1> Ok, how do I do that, when I cannot access the toolbars, ziro
[08:31] <ziroday> wiseman1: can you access a terminal?
[08:32] <ikonia> pu154r: damaged ?
[08:32] <wiseman1> how do I access a terminal when I cannot get to the toolbars?
[08:32] <yourmomr> hey vegeta
[08:32] <wiseman1> is there a way to do it from the file/folder explorer?
[08:32] <ardchoille> wiseman1: alt+f2 and type in: gnome-terminal
[08:32] <yourmomr> right click
[08:32] <yourmomr> launch terminal here
[08:32] <yourmomr> gg
[08:32] <ziroday> wiseman1: by pressing ctrl alt f1 you can switch to a terminal. Press ctrl alt f7 to get back to a graphical environment
[08:33] <wiseman1> alt-f2 brought up my terminal
[08:33] <wiseman1> now what
[08:33] <ziroday> wiseman1: run the command ps ax | grep gnome-panel
[08:33] <wiseman1> ps ax | grep gnome-panel
[08:33] <ziroday> wiseman1: in the terminal
[08:34] <wiseman1> sorry, drunk
[08:34] <wiseman1> ok, I put it in
[08:34] <wiseman1> I get the response
[08:34] <wiseman1> 9015 pts/0  R+  0:00 grep gnome-panel
[08:34] <ikonia> wiseman1: if you are drunk I suggest you come back later when you are not
[08:34] <wiseman1> I suppose I should tell you I'm in XFCE