[17:12] <pvl1> anyone comment on how well netflix works on the latest ubuntu
[17:12] <OerHeks> Waka_Flocka, but be carefull, we do not support PPA's
[17:12] <Waka_Flocka> yeah i know
[17:12] <xtrez> ActionParsnip, what's the name of package to install ccsm ?
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> pvl1: its a hack, i'd contact the PPA maintainer
[17:12] <Waka_Flocka> i love firefox
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: run 'ccsm' in a terminal, it will tell you
[17:13] <pvl1> ActionParsnip: i know, but its the deciding factor between an ubuntu or winblows media center
[17:13] <pvl1> ima ask offtopic
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> pvl1: id ask the ppa maintainer
[17:13] <pvl1> hm
[17:13] <pvl1> alright
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> pvl1: its "windows" too, winblows isnt a thing
[17:14] <xtrez> ActionParsnip, after removing unity is that possible that i can use the unity lens ?
[17:14] <pvl1> ActionParsnip: its a thing if it angers you as much as it angers me
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: no because you need to use unity to use the lenses
[17:14] <xtrez> ActionParsnip, ok
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: no need to remove unity, if you use fallback gnome or a completely different DE then Unity wont even load
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: the space Unity uses it quite small
[17:16] <xtrez> ActionParsnip, i am not removing it.
[17:16] <xtrez> ActionParsnip, in which lang is unity written ?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: i recommend it, lots easier to leave it on and just log in to the other session
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_%28user_interface%29
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> xtrez: look on the right
[17:17] <xtrez> thanks ActionParsnip to pointing out this link :)
[17:18] <utter> ActionParsnip: If I have 2 HDD and suppose I make a folder X , can I use symlinks to that folder X in such a way that it uses both the HDD ?
[17:18] <utter> HDD space*
[17:19] <pvl1> utter: why would u want that? your read will decreases because files will be fragmented over two drives and search will be longer
[17:19] <moonpie> i have a phantom generic usb2 that i cant eject, detach from udisks (gui application:Disks. it appeared after i reformatted a misbehaving usb stick. it persists in /dev/disks/by-*, and also appears lsscsi. it doesn't show up in gparted, blkid or fstab/mtab. i can only temporarily detach it by the command: echo "scsi remove-single-device <H> <B> <T> <L>" > /proc/scsi/scsi. but it reappears on reboot. i dd'd the hd im using and did a clean ins
[17:19] <moonpie> tall and the issue persists. the disk also appears as a file in /home as sdb. it is so weird. any suggestions?
[17:19] <pvl1> utter: instead syslink a dir, keep thing together
[17:20] <sporkeee> What is the hot key for hud in the gnome shell?
[17:20] <utter> may i PM pvl1 ?
[17:20] <lolcat> http://imgur.com/ryWcrKQ <- can I disable that?
[17:20] <pvl1> utter: yes
[17:21] <pvl1> moonpie: it appears in the disks application you say?
[17:21] <pvl1> wilee-nilee: i didnt even know that existed. do you mean the terminal or shell
[17:22] <moonpie> pvl1, yes it appears in disk, udisks --dump, /dev/disk/by-*
[17:22] <moonpie> disks not disk
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> pvl1, Nah, the gnome 3 desktop called the shell, I was just wondering if hud is there.
[17:23] <Vivekananda> finally got it working via another script
[17:23] <wilee-nilee> called the gnome-shell in ubuntu anyway
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> utter: symlinks dont work like that]
[17:23] <Vivekananda> someone just told me not to run scripts from the net
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> utter: symlinks also MUST be on the same drive, only hard links can be on different disks
[17:23] <Vivekananda> but in this case the guy had given it out
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> utter: sounds like you want RAID1
[17:23] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: http://askubuntu.com/questions/226307/how-to-install-a-brother-hl2270dw-laser-printer
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: brother make driver debs, go to their website
[17:24] <ikillcypher> hi guys is there anyway to set a timer shut down?
[17:24] <Vivekananda> if it is not too much trouble could you just glance at it , the second one and
[17:24] <Vivekananda> and tell me if the script has nothing suspicious. It is a small one so I am asking
[17:25] <pvl1> moonpie: your saying its a usb?
[17:25] <moonpie> pvl1, its a phantom usb. it is not attached.
[17:25] <pvl1> moonpie: and lsusb doesnt see it either
[17:25] <utter> ActionParsnip: I see
[17:26] <moonpie> pvl1, no lsusb doesnt see it
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: http://pastie.org/8212161
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: thats all you need
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: 2 debs installed in the right order
[17:26] <Jart> Hi, I am a semi-new user, and I am having a problem running 13.04 on my MacBook Pro 6,2. I'm pretty sure it has hybrid graphics. I wanted to use my external VGA monitor (connected through a MiniDisplay port), so I looked all around for a solution, and found out I should give Bumblebee a try. I did, and it messed everything up. I tried reinstalling Ubuntu, but it ended up kicking me into text-only mode. Startx makes the screen flicker a
[17:27] <ikillcypher> hi guys is there anyway to set a timer shut down???
[17:27] <Jart> "unity" command does not work either
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> ikillcypher: after a certain amount of time you mean?
[17:27] <daftykins> ikillcypher: yes, with the shutdown command and some switches. hit up the man page
[17:27] <ikillcypher> yes
[17:28] <ikillcypher> 3 Hours
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> ikillcypher: as daftykins says, check the man page for shutdown
[17:28] <ikillcypher> 180 Mins ?
[17:28] <pvl1> moonpie: kool, whats the command to see user perm on a dir
[17:28] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: didn't realise you replied first! my bad
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: no, you did :)
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: jump in dude :D
[17:29] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: I alread did what you said but did not get the printer to show up
[17:29] <Vivekananda> but when I ran the script I saw it
[17:29] <moonpie> pvl1, the phantom usb stick appears as Generic- xD/SD/M.S. 1.0 in Disks and lsscsi
[17:29] <Vivekananda> :(
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> ikillcypher: sudo shutdown -h 3600    if memory serves
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: try:  http://localhost:631
[17:29] <ikillcypher> The system is going down for maintenance in 180 minutes!
[17:29] <ikillcypher> so how will I know that the system will shut down 3 hrs later
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> ikillcypher: you can use:   sudo shutdown -a   to abort the shutdown
[17:29] <ikillcypher> cause Im going to sleep
[17:30] <moonpie> pvli, the sdb file that appears in /home has octal perm 644
[17:30] <moonpie> pvl1, is that what you mean?
[17:30] <pvl1> moonpie: one sec
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: thanks for reminding me that shutdown has a timer, I was going to mess with:  sudo at
[17:31] <Jart> Anyone?
[17:31] <pvl1> moonpie: no thats not what i meant. theres a certain command to show permissions on dir/files
[17:31] <moonpie> pvl1, ls -la?
[17:31] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: :D my pleasure
[17:32] <ikillcypher> so now the system will auto shut down at 180 mins later
[17:32] <ikillcypher> without me doing anything?
[17:32] <moonpie> pvl1, i have a script i use to show octal permissions when i use ls
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Jart: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro6-2/Precise   may help
[17:32] <explodes> My /etc/fstab got overwritten I think? What gives...
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> ikillcypher: yes its all scheduled to rock
[17:32] <ikillcypher> ty nights
[17:32] <moonpie> pvl1, the sdb file is owned by root
[17:32] <Jart> ActionParsnip: I used that, but that still doesn't give me the advice I need. I can't boot into Unity after I tried to install bumblebee
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Jart: you sure it has a dual GPU?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Jart: install the xfce4 package and log in to that from LightDM
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> explodes, You think?
[17:33] <Jart> ActionParsnip: pretty sure. there's a graphics switching option on my OS X partition
[17:33] <Jart> how do i do that?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Jart: is it ok with Ubuntu 12.04?
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Jart: you do realise that Raring is EOL in Jan 2014...
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> Jart: you can run:   sudo apt-get install xfce4
[17:35] <moonpie> pvl1, sdb also appears in /media/username/ when i use the ls command but if iuse the ls -ls command it doesnt appear
[17:35] <Jart> yeah. i know. 12.04 was a little wonky for me. 13.04 works much better for me
[17:35] <moonpie> pvl1, ls -ls --> ls -la
[17:35] <Jart> seems much more compatible
[17:35] <daftykins> Jart: which model macbook?
[17:36] <daftykins> oh sorry you said
[17:36] <pvl1> moonpie: can you pm me plz
[17:36] <Jart> 6,2
[17:36] <Jart> daftykins: 6,2
[17:36] <Jart> mid 2010
[17:36] <moonpie> pvl1, sure
[17:36] <daftykins> Jart: which processor?
[17:36] <Jart> i5
[17:36] <daftykins> exactly?
[17:36] <daftykins> there are two i5s
[17:36] <Jart> 2.4ghz intel core i5
[17:37] <rawrisaurous> Anyone have any idea why the wired tab in network doesn't exist? Any solutions
[17:37] <daftykins> ok nvidia GT 330M
[17:37] <Jart> yeah
[17:37] <Jart> sorry
[17:37] <daftykins> Jart: at a guess i'd imagine the 'nvidia optimus' approach isn't really guaranteed on an Apple system
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> rawrisaurous: does your Ethernet controller have a driver
[17:37] <Jart> yeah, that's what messed everything up
[17:37] <Jart> i tried bumblebee
[17:37] <daftykins> yep
[17:37] <Jart> and now unity isn't working
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> rawrisaurous: did you set it's IP in /etc/network/interfaces  by any chance?
[17:38] <daftykins> Jart: so there's some way of using - is it bootcamp stuff to force which GPU to be active for other Oss?
[17:38] <daftykins> *OSs
[17:38] <__raven> xubuntu 13.04: what is PowerChute plus and ADMD? and how to remove
[17:38] <wilee-nilee> !enter | Jart
[17:39] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: he's responding to questions.
[17:39] <Jart> daftykins: yeah, but that's only if you install it through non-EFI
[17:39] <Jart> i didn't have a blank CD
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, I can see that but in multiple lines not needed. ;)
[17:41] <Jart> sorry about that wilee... i finish typing something and then another thought pops into my head
[17:41] <daftykins> ok well try and relax on the ol' triggers, seems unnecessary
[17:41] <daya> Could any one plz suggest how to use preseed to partition hard drive  separately ( / /opt /home /boot etc)
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> Jart, It happens no biggie.
[17:41] <daftykins> Jart: ah ok so you were forced to do an EFI install?
[17:41] <Jart> pretty much
[17:41] <__raven> xubuntu 13.04: what is PowerChute plus and ADMD? and how to remove
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> __raven:  PowerChute plus appears to be a UPS thing
[17:42] <troyready> Anyone here using Ubuntu on a MS Surface Pro as a daily use workstation? Curious for thoughts on it given the recent price drop....
[17:42] <__raven> ActionParsnip, its installed automatically on both systems and has open ports - how to remove that?
[17:42] <daftykins> Jart: you could take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why when running 'startx' it's depositing some bricks on the ground
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> __raven: admd appears to be ADministration Management DOMAIN
[17:43] <wilee-nilee> troyready, Supposedly a fairly easy dual boot, buy one and tellus. ;)
[17:43] <__raven> ActionParsnip, how to remove both i do not need that
[17:43] <Jart> daftykins: I tried that. it said (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> __raven: not sure, could look at power options to see if UPS stuff is there
[17:43] <daftykins> Jart: were you reinstalling and diagnosing with the VGA display permanently attached?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> __raven: or look at the commands listening and search for them at http://packages.ubuntu.com and remove those (if possible)
[17:44] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: I tried the :631. nothing shows after clicking "printer"
[17:44] <Jart> i mean i have it plugged into my minidisplay port. is that what you mean by "permanent"?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> __raven: alternatively, use ufw / iptables to block traffic in and out of those ports
[17:44] <daftykins> Jart: yeah as in not using the internal display
[17:44] <Jart> should i try unplugging that first?
[17:44] <Jart> didn't really think to try that
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: administration tab -> under Printers -> add printer button
[17:44] <daftykins> Jart: i think unplug and reboot would be a considerable variable yeah
[17:45] <Jart> alright. i'll try that and i'll be right back. if that works, i need help finding out how to use my external monitor
[17:45] <daftykins> Jart: zapping the PRAM could be worth a go if bumblebee changed something too - are you familiar with that?
[17:45] <nurow> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me with getting half decent clickpad support on my laptop. I have a Clevo P370SM (Same click pad as P370EM), which is resold as the System 76 Bonobo Extreme (an Ubuntu laptop). Unfortunately the clickpad support is horrible and System76 hasn't yet written a clickpad driver for the laptop. Is there anything else I could look at to improve performance? The cursor jumps whenever I press down on the p
[17:45] <nurow> ad, making it very hard to use, and palm recognition is non-existent
[17:46] <Jart> thanks for your help, daftykins. ooh, never thought to try resetting the PRAM. although it works just fine on my OS X partition
[17:46] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: it is already there !!
[17:46] <__raven> ActionParsnip, there is nothing related to that. must be possible to remove what i did not want
[17:46] <daftykins> Jart: yeah it might have set a setting that ubuntu cries at though
[17:46] <troyready> wilee-nilee, :) I might just do that
[17:46] <Jart> daftykins: right now, i'm on my OS X side using both my screens no problem... alright i'm gonna go try what you said and i'll be right back
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: cool, then I suggest you reboot and try stuff
[17:46] <wilee-nilee> nurow, So this is fro system 76 right, they have a section at the ubuntu forums.
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: or remove printer then reboot then readd
[17:47] <ALLTHECODE> How do you downgrade to raring from saucy?
[17:47] <Vivekananda> one more glitch
[17:47] <daftykins> ALLTHECODE: you can't downgrade
[17:47] <Vivekananda> when I reboot then the printer is not enabled
[17:47] <ALLTHECODE> I can't?
[17:47] <daftykins> nope
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> ALLTHECODE, Thats an upgrade
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: reinstall
[17:47] <ALLTHECODE> There is a PPA I need to use that only works on raring
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: oh from raring to saucy..
[17:47] <Vivekananda> sorry it is not connected to the usb as a device. I have to manually check it
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> ALLTHECODE, sorry missread that
[17:48] <ALLTHECODE> How do I keep this thing from updating to whatever the next latest version is the next time one comes out?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: if you want saucy you ca tell upgrade-manager to grab the development release
[17:48] <daftykins> ALLTHECODE: don't click 'upgrade' :D
[17:48] <Traccy> any idea about this error http://pastie.org/8212195
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: the standing packages installed will be installed, but the PPAs will not hit unless they support Saucy
[17:48] <daftykins> !locale | Traccy
[17:49] <ALLTHECODE> ActionParsnip: is there any way to make it install the PPA's packages?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: you wont lose them if you upgrade online rather than clean install
[17:50] <ALLTHECODE> well I mean I'm already on saucy
[17:50] <ALLTHECODE> but I need to use a ppa that only supports raring
[17:50] <daftykins> i really think you're going to have to go back
[17:51] <nurow> ah, Wilee-nilee, do you have a link to that?
[17:51] <Skeptix> Hey, when I lower the volume below 30% it mutes (like if it were at 0%). I had that problem before, but I don't remember how I fixed it. I can't remember the key words for that issue. Someone?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: then you could contact the ppa maintainer to see if they will support saucy in the future
[17:51] <ALLTHECODE> yeah I have no idea how to "go back"
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: they dont have to, there is no control as it is a PPA
[17:51] <factotum> anyone know a quick way to find how much memory my video card has via bash?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: if you want to go back to raring you will need to reinstall
[17:52] <ALLTHECODE> ActionParsnip: can that be done without losing everything?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> ALLTHECODE: your backups will protect against that
[17:52] <n0sq> why doesn't the remote computers shut down AND power off with sudo halt? ubuntu 13.04
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> factotum: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-find-linux-vga-video-card-ram/
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> factotum: took me 30 seconds to find
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> ALLTHECODE, Is this like one app, or a series you want locked?
[17:52] <daftykins> factotum: what brand GPU is it?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> factotum: went to google: bash show video card memory
[17:53] <ALLTHECODE> One app.
[17:53] <daftykins> n0sq: i only ever use sudo shutdown -h 0 so *shrug* maybe don't use halt? 'halt' doesn't say 'power off' to me
[17:53] <factotum> ActionParsnip: congrats
[17:53] <n0sq> my connection to the remote machines are thru ssh
[17:54] <daftykins> n0sq: yes...?
[17:54] <Jart> daftykins: didn't work
[17:54] <factotum> sorry, dont have X at the moment
[17:54] <daftykins> Jart: flash of X failing on the internal display too?
[17:54] <Jart> yeah
[17:55] <Jart> still kicking me to text-only, won't boot unity
[17:55] <n0sq> daftykins: i'll give shutdown a try
[17:55] <daftykins> Jart: then PRAM zap, double chime, same result?
[17:55] <Jart> yup
[17:55] <caboose885> n0sq: what command are you using?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> factotum: lspci -v -s `lspci | grep VGA | awk {'print $1'}` | head -n 5 | tail -n 1 | awk {'print $6'}
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> factotum: works here
[17:55] <factotum> ActionParsnip: thank you
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> factotum: how come I could find that guide so fast? Have you seen that URL I gave?
[17:55] <daftykins> Jart: ok, when booting whatever install media you made, i take it X comes up fine?
[17:56] <Jart> daftykins: yeah, LiveUSB works perfectly
[17:56] <Jart> I also tried a full reinstall
[17:56] <daftykins> Jart: might be interesting comparing the Xorg logs from the Live boot vs. the install
[17:56] <factotum> ActionParsnip: I don't have a functioning X environment atm. Not sure how to copy paste from irssi into, say, links or lynx or whichever
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> factotum: i see.
[17:57] <Jart> daftykins: would it help to get those both on the paste link so someone can take a look?
[17:57] <daftykins> Jart: well maybe one pastebin each so they can be put side by side
[17:58] <daftykins> Jart: i'd genuinely think that the VGA element will be an issue, i'd maybe reinstall with the internal display only. what screen config does the LiveUSB boot into?
[17:58] <Jart> daftykins: just my laptop screen. the external monitor never worked to begin with. it's blank 100% of the time
[17:58] <daftykins> ah ok
[17:59] <daftykins> if it's even connected i'd be concerned it'd be hassling things
[17:59] <Jart> when I installed 13.04 before, it worked fine until i tried bumblebee. that's what messed X all up
[17:59] <daftykins> yep
[17:59] <Jart> (my external monitor still didn't work, but at least I could boot into unity)
[18:00] <Jart> daftykins: anyway, i'll get you those Xorg logs. see if that sheds any light
[18:00] <daftykins> cool
[18:03] <jgcampbell300> can anyone tell me about Arandr on xfce crashing all the time with ubuntu 13.04
[18:05] <daftykins> jgcampbell300: are you saying it does?
[18:05] <jgcampbell300> daftykins, ya ... its the only thing i can think is causing all the crashes
[18:05] <daftykins> so it's not the program crashing...?
[18:06] <jgcampbell300> daftykins, i have no idea ... i am trying to find witch log this would bre under now
[18:06] <biergaizi> Hello. Is there any Ubuntu users? I just need the default value of file-max in Ubuntu, run cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max. Tell me the result and your version, thanks!
[18:07] <daftykins> jgcampbell300: well if this 'Arandr' program is crashing, maybe run it from in a terminal to see if it's spitting out a log of what it's up to?
[18:07] <daftykins> biergaizi: 10.04.4 LTS = 11207
[18:07] <daftykins> (server)
[18:07] <jgcampbell300> daftykins, arandr is for multi monitors ... i think its crashing xfac kuz i have to log in every time it crashes
[18:08] <biergaizi> daftykins: Thanks
[18:08] <jgcampbell300> daftykins, do you know what log file the gui is in
[18:08] <jgcampbell300> maybe xorg
[18:08] <daftykins> jgcampbell300: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:08] <nurow> Hello, I was wondering if anyone could help me with getting half decent clickpad support on my laptop. I have a Clevo P370SM (Same click pad as P370EM), which is resold as the System 76 Bonobo Extreme (an Ubuntu laptop). Unfortunately the clickpad support is horrible and System76 hasn't yet written a clickpad driver for the laptop. Is there anything else I could look at to improve performance? The cursor jumps whenever I press down on the p
[18:08] <nurow> ad, making it very hard to use, and palm recognition is non-existent
[18:09] <jgcampbell300> daftykins, just looked and theres no errors there ... guess ill look throu some more logs
[18:09] <daftykins> jgcampbell300: well that one is only X startup in fairness, probably not apt for your current query
[18:10] <Jart> daftykins: here is the liveUSB (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5955910/) and here is the messed up one (http://paste.ubuntu.com/5955911/)
[18:10] <vikamith> how to install lamp server on lubuntu 13.04
[18:10] <daftykins> vikamith: desktop or server?
[18:10] <daftykins> vikamith: run sudo tasksel in a terminal
[18:10] <vikamith> desktop
[18:10] <jgcampbell300> daftykins, i see maybe i am using bad software for running multi monitors
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> !lamp
[18:10] <daftykins> Jart: ok taking a look
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> vikamith, Might start with a look at the bots message.
[18:11] <vikamith> ok
[18:15] <jgcampbell300> daftykins, think i found it ... ERROR: apport (pid 3797) Tue Aug  6 12:59:12 2013: apport: report /var/crash/_usr_bin_xfce4-session.1000.crash already exists and unseen, doing nothing to avoid disk usage DoS
[18:15] <daftykins> Jart: ah at this point i recall something - the liveUSB naturally boots with its' existing versions of packages, i.e. kernel version etc etc, whilst you may have installed it with updates enabled - if your internet connection was active at that time it would've installed all the updates - potentially putting on a kernel/more that breaks. do you think that was likely? (you installed with updates?)
[18:17] <Jart> daftykins: i didn't install the packages at the initial install. i did it after the first run. the first run worked just fine. i had installed it this way in the past, and before bumblebee, it worked just fine
[18:18] <daftykins> Jart: ok, so far the difference i'm seeing in the logs is DRI being loaded at line 255 on the Live, but it isn't on the install
[18:18] <daftykins> Jart: also it looks like whilst the live picks nouveau for the nvidia, the install is going for VESA
[18:19] <vikamith> ubottu
[18:19] <Jart> daftykins: so how do i fix it? should i just install it again, but with the internet turned off?
[18:19] <Jart> then what should i do about the updates?
[18:20] <vikamith> ubottu,  i have  2 install  all provided in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[18:20] <Jart> i just want it back to the way it worked before i tried installing bumblebee (which i purged) hahahaha
[18:20] <daftykins> Jart: so the current broken install - is that updated or not?
[18:20] <Jart> yes
[18:21] <Nuub007> Hey all question about upgrade
[18:22] <Nuub007> currently running Maverick and trying to upgrade incrementally. Not working due to strange error. Documentation fixes appear complicated. Need help
[18:22] <daftykins> Jart: i'd hold shift when booting it to try the older kernel from the GRUB boot menu
[18:22] <Jart> will do. brb
[18:23] <auronandace> Nuub007: all releases between maverick and precise are no longer supported, it would be best to just fresh install
[18:24] <thecodethinker> Is there a bug with clang on ubuntu?
[18:24] <thecodethinker> I saw one for natty but I'm not sure if it's still there. It never said solved
[18:24] <auronandace> thecodethinker: natty is no longer supported
[18:25] <thecodethinker> auronandace: I'm not using natty. There was a bug reported for natty and it never said solved. I wanted to know if a clang bug exists in raring
[18:25] <Nuub007> auronandace: Would fresh install import my current files and settings or will I have to back up everything again?
[18:25] <auronandace> Nuub007: backup
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> Nuub007  backup is always a good idea
[18:25] <Nuub007> auronandace: Thanks
[18:26] <auronandace> thecodethinker: search launchpad
[18:26] <auronandace> !launchpad | thecodethinker
[18:27] <thecodethinker> auronandace: there is no bug page for it...
[18:27] <Jart> daftykins: still didn't work :(
[18:28] <daftykins> well at least it's consistent ;x
[18:29] <daftykins> Jart: can you see what i was pointing out between the logs, how the Live does the 'using VT number 7' as does the install at line 241 on both - then they totally diverge?
[18:29] <auronandace> thecodethinker: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clang
[18:29] <thecodethinker> auronandace: yeah i was there. there is no bug page
[18:29] <daftykins> Jart: the install errors with 'KMS not enabled' whilst the live carries on happy
[18:29] <thecodethinker> auronandace: is not clickable for me -_-
[18:29] <Jart> daftykins: yeah, i did notice that. is there a way to just change that in a file
[18:29] <auronandace> thecodethinker: can't you see the link saying 6 new bugs
[18:30] <auronandace> thecodethinker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clang/+bugs?field.status:list=NEW
[18:31] <thecodethinker> auronandace: thank you. The bug is there but there is no fix -_-
[18:31] <thecodethinker> auronandace: do you use clang?
[18:31] <thecodethinker> it seems like ti can't find the c++ libs
[18:31] <auronandace> thecodethinker: i'm not an expert, i've only used it on minix
[18:31] <daftykins> Jart: i would be curious whether there's an /etc/X11/xorg.conf present in the install - likely it'd be a no because everything should just be auto detect at boot. creating one *might* be the way to go
[18:32] <daftykins> Jart: check out the very end of this page after 'Configuring the X server' : http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/InstallNouveau/
[18:32] <elisangela_> boa tarde
[18:32] <Pici> !br | elisangela_
[18:32] <daftykins> Jart: if there's no xorg.conf in your install, try creating one with that content
[18:32] <daftykins> Jart: give it a boot then pastebin the xorg.conf if it doesn't work
[18:32] <Jart> daftykins: having an xorg.conf has always led to trouble for me, but i'd be down to try it. seems like the only option now
[18:33] <elisangela_> sorry
[18:33] <Jart> daftykins: will do. thanks again!
[18:34] <dak0> Hello hardware channel in freenode, I have few GPU,CPU related questions
[18:35] <Pici> dak0: Hello dak0, this is #ubuntu, not ##hardware
[18:35] <arleas> Please help! Every time I install the ATI drivers in order to make my fan run quietly under 13.04, Ubuntu will boot OK for the first few times and then hang at the login screen after the chime. No idea how to recover it - last time I reinstalled the OS.
[18:35] <dak0> Pici: how do i join hardware channel?
[18:36] <Pici> dak0: type: /join ##hardware
[18:37] <daftykins> arleas: 'chime'? as in it's an Apple device?
[18:37] <arleas> daftykins: the login sound
[18:37] <katarine> minha estereia neste canal
[18:37] <__raven> do you know about a honeypot distribution?
[18:38] <auronandace> __raven: ask in ##linux
[18:38] <katarine> quem e voce
[18:38] <daftykins> arleas: hmm i don't really have any experience with the ATI drivers, is it a 5000 series card or newer?
[18:38] <dak0> pici: thanks
[18:38] <arleas> daftykins: 6870
[18:39] <tomas7470> join bash
[18:39] <tomas7470> join #bash
[18:39] <blazemore> arleas: Do you mean you're trying to install the proprietry "fglrx" driver provided by AMD, rather than the open source one that comes with Ubuntu? You have a 6870 and you are running 64-bit Ubuntu 13.04?
[18:39] <daftykins> tomas7470: have a /
[18:40] <arleas> blazemore: Yes, it's been suggested as the only cure for the extremely high fan speed provided by the open source driver
[18:40] <Ghostring> how can I remove the custom Unity I installed? and go back to default http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/how-to-get-systray-whitelist-back-in.html
[18:41] <arleas> blazemore: I'm running a 6870 with 64 bit Ubuntu (13.04)
[18:41] <blazemore> arleas: That's identical to my setup
[18:42] <Ghostring> how can i revert the changes i did here? http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/how-to-get-systray-whitelist-back-in.html
[18:42] <arleas> blazemore: Do you have the open source or the AMD driver? If you have the open source, how did you lower the fan speed?
[18:43] <ru0h> Hello sirs.
[18:44] <arleas> blazemore: The driver installed successfully - I could run a dual monitor setup and the fan speed was correct. But after three reboots, it now hangs on the login screen without any changes under CCC or similar - just running the fglrx driver stock.
[18:44] <ru0h> help
[18:44] <ru0h> woops
[18:44] <blazemore> arleas: Sounds like a red herring
[18:44] <blazemore> arleas: I run fglrx, and I've never found the fan noise to be a problem - although my 6870 probably has a larger (and therefore slower) fan
[18:47] <MonkWitDaFunk> Is the fglrx driver an open source driver for ati graphics that is not within ubuntu?
[18:48] <k1l_> !info fglrx
[18:48] <auronandace> MonkWitDaFunk: fglrx is the closed source driver
[18:49] <daftykins> MonkWitDaFunk: no it's a closed source proprietary binary
[18:55] <SDr__> huh, where is the tilde (~) defined?
[18:55] <SDr__> is it bash, or alias, or wth?
[18:55] <Jart> daftykins: same thing... http://paste.ubuntu.com/5956040/
[18:56] <arleas> blazemore: Sorry, my browser crashed
[18:56] <arleas> blazemore: Any ideas?
[18:56] <blazemore> arleas: If I were you, Id use the open source driver
[18:56] <blazemore> arleas: And look for ways to control your fan speed while using the open-source driver
[18:56] <arleas> blazemore: I can't stand the noise. Is there anyway of getting into the OS to remove the driver? It currently hangs on login.
[18:57] <blazemore> arleas: Yes. Can you boot to recovery mode OK?
[18:58] <explodes> I heard this story of about an astronaut that heard a constant and consistent clicking for weeks.
[18:58] <arleas> blazmore: I think so - there's four ubuntu options to select and two say recovery mode
[18:58] <explodes> He was about to go mad, until he decided that the clicking sounded like music.
[18:58] <Jart> daftykins: although this time, when i typed startx, i just got a blinking cursor
[18:58] <Jart> so that's at least something
[18:58] <explodes> He learned to enjoy his high-powered fan
[18:58] <dak0> Hello, how can I find where my Mozilla history is located in Ubuntu, I just want to see how much space it takes from my HDD ?
[18:59] <daftykins> Jart: ooh, so it sort of moved to the VT 7 and sat there by the sounds
[18:59] <daftykins> Jart: hrmm ok, i see it only errors once with the kms not enabled bit though - seems encouraging, i think the next task is to perhaps put something in xorg.conf to make kms work
[18:59] <holstein> dak0: should be in your user /home.. in .config/mozilla, or .mozilla ..something obvious like that.. control+h will unhide them
[19:00] <Jart> daftykins: any ideas what to put in?
[19:00] <dak0> holstein: .mozilla folder is 128mb that's low
[19:01] <dak0> i'm using the web on Ubuntu since 2012
[19:01] <d53220> can someone explain this to me? http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet  -- The question is does a tablet exist or not?
[19:01] <daftykins> Jart: i'm googling around but it almost seems like it's just a kernel thing that either works or doesn't - i wonder if the combination of that config and booting the older kernel will provide a different result. i'm afraid i'm obviously clutching at straws now though with not enough experience to back up my ideas :(
[19:01] <holstein> dak0: those will be per user
[19:01] <holstein> !tablet | dak0
[19:01] <dak0> holstein: I'm the only one using this PC
[19:01] <holstein> dak0: sorry.. d53220 ^^
[19:01] <dak0> holstein: np
[19:02] <holstein> dak0: not actual people users.. user accounts.. if you made a new user account for some reason
[19:02] <Jart> daftykins: alright, thanks a ton, man. hopefully i can get this figured out soon. it's been driving me insane. fuckin bumblebee just getting in there and mixing everything up
[19:02] <holstein> !language
[19:02] <Jart> my bad
[19:02] <dak0> holstein: What do you mean user account, don't need account to use Mozilla ?
[19:03] <arleas> blazemore: How do I remove the driver? Unity won't load and the borders are missing from the windows in recovery mode.
[19:03] <holstein> dak0: user accounts, friend.. on the machine.. if you have bob1, and bob2.. bob1 and bob2 both have mozilla config files
[19:03] <blazemore> arleas: Repeat: Can you boot to recovery mode OK?
[19:03] <dak0> holstein: as far as I know history is not shared between those accounts, but I get your point
[19:03] <dak0> holstein: thanks
[19:04] <arleas> blazemore: I think so - there's four ubuntu options to select and two say recovery mode.
[19:04] <daftykins> Jart: no worries - if you do make any progress, give me a shout with the answer yeah? :)
[19:04] <holstein> dak0: i 8Never* said it was shared.. i said, you have a config per user
[19:04] <blazemore> arleas: Select the recovery mode with the highest number at the end
[19:04] <arleas> blazemore: OK
[19:04] <arleas> blazemore: Last time I did this, Unity won't load and the borders are missing from the windows in recovery mode.
[19:04] <blazemore> We're not going to use the gui in recovery mode so that doesn't matter
[19:05] <blazemore> When it asks for your password, enter it. I think you have to maybe hit Ctrl-D first, but just do what it says. The entry in the menu you want it "drop to a root prompt with networking" or similar.
[19:07] <arleas> blazemore: OK
[19:08] <blazemore> arleas: Are you looking at a root shell prompt?
[19:09] <arleas> blazemore: I'm in Windows - just writing down what you're telling me to do!
[19:09] <blazemore> Oh OK
[19:09] <blazemore> Well the next step depends on how you installed the fglrx driver in the first place
[19:09] <blazemore> For example, did you use the Additional Drivers tool, or did you download and install it yourself from AMD's website?
[19:12] <arleas> blazemore: I followed a guide and installed it through terminal.
[19:12] <blazemore> sudo sh /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh
[19:12] <blazemore> sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
[19:12] <blazemore> In fact arleas http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Raring_Installation_Guide#Removing_Catalyst.2Ffglrx
[19:13] <blazemore> Just run the commands in that section
[19:13] <eaxxae> anyone know if there is anything like airparrot for *nix ?
[19:13] <arleas> blazemore: cheers!
[19:13] <arleas> blazemore: Now, if you know a way of making it quieter under the open source drivers...
[19:15] <blazemore> arleas: No, just install the fglrx driver properly from the Additional Drivers tool
[19:15] <blazemore> eaxxae: Take a look at this project which is a plugin for Totem, Ubuntu's default video player http://cgit.sukimashita.com/totem-plugin-airplay.git - XBMC also supports AirPlay
[19:15] <blazemore> !airplay | eaxxae
[19:15] <blazemore> No I didn't think so
[19:15] <arleas> blazemore: I did that last time... same problem. Also, I get an 'unsupported hardware' watermark in the corner of my screen. Dual monitors also doesn't work with that option.
[19:16] <blazemore> arleas: Stick with the open source drivers then, and fix your fan issue while using those
[19:16] <arleas> blazemore: I'm not sure there is a fix for the fan issue using the open source drivers. It's a vicious circle.
[19:16] <Sk1Special> how do i upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 via terminal?
[19:17] <blazemore> Sk1Special: do-release-upgrade
[19:18] <Sk1Special> blazemore, yeah i did all that, starting with apt-get update, and it just says 'already newest version' but when i check i stil have 12.10
[19:18] <Taptoula> Hi all
[19:18] <Taptoula> I have a problem with rtorrent since I restarted my server. It says : "rtorrent: Symbol `_ZN7torrent10log_groupsE' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking". What should I do ?
[19:19] <holstein> Taptoula: have you considered relinking?
[19:19] <Taptoula> Actuelly I don't know how to do that
[19:20] <blazemore> Sk1Special: Did you actually run "sudo do-release-upgrade" when you "did all that" ?
[19:20] <blazemore> Or were you following some sketchy guide?
[19:20] <vee_> hey guys, i somehow am no longer in the sudoers file, and, can no longer run the sudo command. there is no root user either...how can i fix this?
[19:21] <daftykins> vee_: probably a livecd boot and a chroot
[19:21] <daftykins> vee_: or a recovery console boot
[19:21] <vee_> how do i do a recovery console boot?
[19:22] <vee_> this is minimal install cd btw
[19:22] <Sk1Special> blazemore, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, sudo apt-get install update-manager-core, and sudo do-release-upgrade, all of which say no new release, and lsb_release -a returns 12.10
[19:22] <daftykins> vee_: hold shift at boot time and you'll get a boot menu of GRUB, it should offer you kernel versions and their respective recovery boot entries
[19:22] <BlackFate> hello! i removed grub packages by mistake, so i reinstalled grub-efi-amd64-signed again. Now i  get "ubuntu has been blocked by the current security policy". I can disable secure boot. But i really want to now how can i fix that
[19:23] <Taptoula> Can someone please help me with my rtorrent problem ? (rtorrent: Symbol `_ZN7torrent10log_groupsE' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking)
[19:23] <holstein> BlackFate: i thought diabling secure boot was the fix
[19:23] <mac_nibblet> Since when does ubuntu name it's network devices as nm?
[19:23] <holstein> Taptoula: have you tried re-linking?
[19:23] <Taptoula> holstein: I don't know how to do that
[19:23] <blazemore> !nm | mac_nibblet
[19:23] <BlackFate> holstein, well.. it should also work with secure boot enabled.
[19:23] <mac_nibblet> blazemore: :)
[19:24] <blazemore> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager mac_nibblet: since Network Manager
[19:24] <holstein> Taptoula: "i dont know how to do that" is a statement, friend.. what are you asking?
[19:24] <vee_> i tried editing the sudoer's file, but, it says its ready only file system
[19:24] <mac_nibblet> blazemore: network manger is not even installed on my ubuntu-server installation ?
[19:24] <blazemore> vee_: Are you in recovery mode?
[19:24] <Taptoula> holstein: You advised me to relink, I don't know how to relink
[19:24] <holstein> BlackFate: i dont have the hardware in front of me, but i hae always seen users disabling it
[19:24] <blazemore> mac_nibblet: Ask in #ubuntu-server then
[19:24] <mac_nibblet> oki
[19:24] <vee_> blazemore yes
[19:24] <holstein> Taptoula: the error message advised that you re-link. i just asked if you had tried the suggestion
[19:25] <holstein> Taptoula: what are you doing? hosting a link?
[19:25] <blazemore> vee_: mount -o remount,rw /
[19:25] <Taptoula> holstein: no, just trying to launch it, worked perfectly till now
[19:25] <vee_> blazemore: thanks!
[19:26] <blazemore> !efi | BlackFate is there anything useful here
[19:26] <blazemore> Is that relevant to secure boot?
[19:27] <holstein> Taptoula: what worked how? what are youlaunching? and why?
[19:28] <Taptoula> holstein: rtorrent worked perfectly till now, I restarted my server and now when I type "rtorrent" I get "rtorrent: Symbol `_ZN7torrent10log_groupsE' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking" and it fails
[19:28] <Taptoula> holstein: why ? because I need to run it
[19:28] <holstein> Taptoula: please dont repost your queries
[19:29] <Taptoula> holstein: I just answerd your question as fully as I could
[19:29] <holstein> Taptoula: are you downloading? hosting files via torrent? what operating system? what are you doing?
[19:30] <Taptoula> holstein: I'm just tryng to launch rtorrent, will probably download yes. I'm using it on ubuntu server, latest version fully updated
[19:31] <Taptoula> can't find any help on google
[19:31] <NewWorld> Taptoula:  did you try just reinstalling the program?
[19:32] <holstein> Taptoula: i have only personally used tranmission, which has a webGUI.. i would try relinking the file that is an issue. you can remove the file, since you seem to not care what it is
[19:32] <Taptoula> holstein : I'll try both your advices
[19:33] <BlackFate> blazemore, "Secure Boot" is a new UEFI feature that appeared in 2012, with Windows8 preinstalled computers. All current Ubuntu 64bit (not 32bit) versions now support this feature,"
[19:34] <sipior> cd
[19:36] <Taptoula> holstein: It failed : "_ZN7torrent10log_groupsE" can't be found anywhere on the system (but isn't it a symbol, not a file ?). Reinstalling rtorrent leade to the very same error
[19:36] <holstein> Taptoula: it? what failed? how?
[19:36] <holstein> Taptoula: how are you launching what? and why?
[19:37] <Taptoula> holstein: typing rtorrent on the CLi produced the error. That's the command used to launch rtorrent. I don't know why it failed.
[19:38] <NewWorld> Taptoula:  what the hell is "_ZN7torrent10log_groupsE"?
[19:38] <holstein> Taptoula: what are you trying to do? maybe you can use a different torrent for a client or a server, which ever you are tyring to do, which you ahve not indecicated
[19:38] <daftykins> Taptoula: backup your rtorrent .config folder in your /home and check it still does that?
[19:38] <holstein> indicated*
[19:39] <Taptoula> holstein : I think it's a C++ symbol used by the program
[19:39] <Taptoula> daftykins: Thanks, I'll try that
[19:40] <Longtom> Hi All, I've had an ubuntu forums account since 2006 but do not want to create an Ubuntu One account to login.  Does anyone know how I can get my forums account closed?
[19:40] <Taptoula> daftykins: produced the same error
[19:40] <NewWorld> Taptoula:  try it in gdb, type 'gdb rtorrent' , then at the prompt type 'run'
[19:40] <holstein> Taptoula: you think what is a C++ cymbol used by what?
[19:41] <holstein> Taptoula: if the application is not working for you, i would try another torrent application
[19:41] <Longtom> I dont see any contact details for admins
[19:41] <holstein> Longtom: the forums have been compromised.. there is not security reason to close anything
[19:42] <Longtom> I want to close the account because I cannot login without creating an Ubuntu One account which I do not want to do
[19:43] <Pici> Longtom: try #ubuntuforums
[19:43] <Longtom> thanks Pici
[19:43] <NewWorld> Taptoula:  and after you type run and rtorrent crashes, type 'bt' for backtrace
[19:44] <dwarder> is it safe to install LAMP as this: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[19:44] <dwarder> for production
[19:44] <daftykins> dwarder: sure - also consider sudo tasksel
[19:44] <dwarder> daftykins: thankx
[19:45] <Taptoula> holstein: I would but it worked perfectly for months
[19:45] <holstein> Taptoula: did you upgrade? what caused it to break? what were you doing on it? hosting or downloading?
[19:46] <Taptoula> Guys I resolved the problem. It was caused by (I think) a broken build in some ppa repository I was using (ppa:crass/libtorrent). I removed it and reinstalled. Now it's fine again.
[19:46] <Taptoula> Thanks for your help
[19:47] <Shloop> I'm having a problem. Windows wont recognize my ubuntu usb drive.
[19:47] <holstein> Taptoula: ppas are not officially supported here
[19:47] <NewWorld> Great)
[19:48] <NewWorld> Shloop:  what filesystem is the usb drive in?
[19:48] <Taptoula> holstein: I'll keep that in mind. Thanks
[19:48] <daftykins> Shloop: why do you want it to recognise it?
[19:48] <hays> is there any potential problem with avoiding dist-upgrades which require reboot until major version changes?
[19:49] <Shloop> newworld i've never heard of it, but it's called squashfs?
[19:49] <daftykins> hays: there are often kernel updates, those should always be done for security reasons
[19:50] <Shloop> daftykins because I use my laptop for ubuntu and my desktop with windows for music production and I need to transfer a file from this ubuntu drive on to the windows computer
[19:51] <daftykins> Shloop: oh right so it just happens to contain ubuntu for installation, but you're using it for file copy. under windows, run diskmgmt.msc and see if it's detected but not given a drive letter?
[19:52] <Shloop> daftykins yeah that's it. it's detected and says the drive is ready for use but I have no way of accessing it.
[19:53] <daftykins> Shloop: you just right click on it in disk management and add a drive letter
[19:53] <Shloop> accessing its contents*
[19:53] <Shloop> alright i'll try that daftykins
[19:53] <Sk1Special> trying to upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 via terminal.. did sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, sudo apt-get install update-manager-core, and sudo do-release-upgrade, (in that order, and tried rerunning 3 times.)all of which say no new release, and lsb_release -a returns 12.10
[19:55] <daftykins> Sk1Special: why is graphical not an option?
[19:56] <Sk1Special> daftykins, *shrug* it is i guess. but id rather learn how to do it in the terminal, and learn why its not working :]
[19:56] <hays> daftykins: something changed on my setup where booting requires manual intervention
[19:56] <hays> so its annoying to reboot
[19:56] <holstein> id rather do a fresh install.. takes about 8 minutes
[19:57] <holstein> hays: there are some ways to install kernel updates and not reboot, but AFAIK, those are not in default ubuntu installations.. and im not sure how one would implement it
[19:58] <daftykins> Sk1Special: mm fair point. i'm not sure how do-release-upgrade runs but maybe it's getting the wrong answer from whoever it's contacting
[19:58] <Shloop> daftykins i right clicked the drive in the device manager but it doesn't give a "assign drive letter" option
[19:59] <Sk1Special> daftykins, hmm. do you know how would i go about checking/fixing that then ?
[19:59] <daftykins> Shloop: you have to do it on the partition
[19:59] <daftykins> Sk1Special: hunting now
[19:59] <daftykins> Sk1Special: there we go - try "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"
[20:00] <Shloop> daftykins how do you do that? excuse my noobishness
[20:00] <daftykins> Shloop: you see the partitions where it shows the size of the disk and has a blue strip along the top?
[20:00] <cmartin0> I need an nvidia driver newer than 173 but older than the current one. Are these drivers in the ubuntu repository?
[20:01] <daftykins> Shloop: right-click on the blue/white beneath
[20:01] <MoPac> Hello; I have a question about installing some software from source (and I think the question is generic).  I am getting an error during cmake that that it cannot find two package configuration (.cmake) files "provided by" some Qt5 software.
[20:01] <Shloop> daftykins ... I'm not sure what window you're talking about. Is this in the device manager on windows or in ubuntu?
[20:01] <daftykins> cmartin0: you can search for them with 'apt-cache search <package name...>'
[20:01] <MoPac> I'm wondering if this means that they are missing in the code for the software I'm installing, or if they're missing in my Qt libraries
[20:01] <daftykins> Shloop: diskmgmt.msc which i said to run. in windows.
[20:02] <Sk1Special> daftykins, no go.. but i actually read through the stuff..when i do sudo apt-get update.. it shows files from ppa.launchpad.net, dl.google.com , security.ubuntu.com. us.archive.ubuntu.com and extras.ubuntu.com as *failed to download they have been ignored or old ones used instead* will this kill the upgrade?
[20:02] <daftykins> Sk1Special: sounds like it's having issues contacting the mirrors yeah - are you behind a web proxy?
[20:03] <daftykins> Sk1Special: can you do a "sudo apt-get update > pastebinit" ?
[20:03] <Sk1Special> daftykins, no im not. ah yeah one second.
[20:04] <cmartin0> daftykins, I don't see any old ones. So I need to get the binary driver from nvidia then?
[20:04] <daftykins> cmartin0: assuming you searched the APT cache for appropriate package names and it showed the versions you don't want to use with no others - yeah i'd go that route
[20:05] <Shloop> daftykins it only gives me delete volume and help as options
[20:05] <daftykins> Shloop: can you up a screenshot?
[20:05] <Shloop> yeah give me a couple minutes daftkins
[20:06] <daftykins> Shloop: actually - the USB, does it contain an *installed* Ubuntu or a made up LiveUSB version?
[20:09] <Sk1Special> daftykins, .... i know what the problem is. nvm. on a compltely unrelated side note..how do I install the proper drivers for my wireless card in ubuntu? :]
[20:09] <hht> hello, i have installed this iso http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/saucy-desktop-i386.iso file using unetbootin and universal usb installer and i can't boot it, what is wrong is it for x64 ?
[20:09] <daftykins> Sk1Special: no net conn? :)
[20:09] <Sk1Special> daftykins, yeah lol. how do i install the drivers for this usb wireless card? just run sudo apt-get update or?
[20:10] <kriskropd> Is anyone here familiar with feh? I want to set a background in dwm like this 'feh --no-xinerama --bg-center image.jpg' and it works, but now I see I would like to have the image off center by a few hundred pixels for a better background, can I do this using just feh, or do I have to custom edit the image?
[20:10] <daftykins> Sk1Special: can you just upgrade over wired first, then hope 13.04 has lovely working wireless? :D
[20:10] <daftykins> Sk1Special: i think the above would be a less painful approach ^
[20:11] <daftykins> Sk1Special: either way i'm a cable lover i'm afraid :( identify the adapter with lspci / lsusb then ask in here again - i'm no good on wifi woes
[20:12] <hht> anyone can help?
[20:12] <daftykins> hht: no i386 is for 32-bit - what happens?
[20:13] <hht> daftykins i can't boot it
[20:13] <hht> tested on my netbook atom n270 and under app xboot
[20:13] <hht> can't boot
[20:13] <Sk1Special> daftykins, ah mmk. thanks for the help though
[20:14] <daftykins> hht: i dunno, try asking in #ubuntu+1 as saucy isn't final yet
[20:14] <hht> i have also used the newest version of universal usb installer
[20:14] <daftykins> new release support is in there
[20:14] <hht> daftykins what is the newest version of ubuntuu final ?
[20:14] <daftykins> hht: 13.04 but its' support ends in January
[20:15] <Shloop> daftykins http://imgur.com/f3k92um,5JDYJ38#0 http://imgur.com/f3k92um,5JDYJ38#1
[20:15] <Sk1Special> its a netgear WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231] and I prefer cable too..just no reach here.
[20:16] <daftykins> Shloop: that's a 1TB drive! :) is it the second entry maybe? scroll down in the window...
[20:16] <daftykins> Shloop: (below the CD drives)
[20:18] <Shloop> daftykins yeah i know! And it's already almost 3/4ths the way full lol. It's actually listed as disk one in the second row
[20:18] <daftykins> Shloop: i thought you were trying to get files off a flash drive, not an HDD
[20:19] <Shloop> so i'm assuming there's a different way of doing it then daftykins?
[20:19] <home> Hi I have an question and, to be honest, I am not entirely sure if this is the right channel. --I have installed a couple of games from the repos and they all have a tendency to move the cursor/character to the top left of the screen as if i was pressing the <left> and <up> keys
[20:19] <daftykins> Shloop: right now - you have files on a flash drive and it's plugged in, correct?
[20:19] <daftykins> Shloop: 8GB flash drive judging by that window?
[20:19] <Shloop> daftykins: yep
[20:19] <home> the games affected so far are Tumiki Fighters, Alex the Alligator, Frogatto and Titanion
[20:19] <Shloop> wait 8 gbs?
[20:20] <daftykins> Shloop: if you right click that second entry that says 7.91GB under capacity, does it give the option to change drive letter...?
[20:20] <home> other games I have installed are not affected and it doesn't seem to happen in any other app. any ideas?
[20:20] <Shloop> oh okay i see what you're talking about
[20:20] <Shloop> uhh let me see
[20:20] <Shloop> nope. same thing. delete volume or help are my only options
[20:20] <Shloop> daftykins:
[20:22] <daftykins> Shloop: so is it a LiveUSB? or an installed ubuntu *on* the flash drive?
[20:22] <Shloop> daftykins it's actually installed on the HDD
[20:23] <daftykins> Shloop: what's on the flash drive then? :D
[20:24] <daftykins> Shloop: i'm sorry i think i've confused myself about the task at hand
[20:24] <sixyearsofdreams> loop explode :D
[20:25] <Shloop> daftykins I downloaded my copy of Komplete 8 by native instruments (it's a HUGE virtual instrument) and I need to transfer the folder to my windows drive
[20:26] <Shloop> not even that really, since I don't have enough space. I just need to access the 1tb drive's contents daftykins
[20:27] <daftykins> Shloop: so it's sat in the ubuntu install?
[20:27] <Shloop> daftykins yeah it's in my downloads folder on the ubuntu drive
[20:28] <daftykins> Shloop: ok, if that's the same computer you could use ubuntu to mount the NTFS windows partition (or any, preferably a storage only drive) and copy it over
[20:30] <Shloop> is that the only option daftykins? I made a mistake saying that I wanted to copy the files over. I don't have enough space on my drive to do that. I just want to access the contents of the 1tb HDD
[20:31] <daftykins> Shloop: windows can't really read Linux file systems :(
[20:31] <Shloop> daftykins noooooooo
[20:32] <daftykins> Shloop: :'(
[20:32] <reisio> sure it can
[20:32] <Shloop> can I partition part of the drive that has free space on it and use that section? daftykins
[20:32] <daftykins> :O
[20:32] <reisio> what FS?
[20:32] <daftykins> Shloop: reisio best take over, sounds like i'm a dirty liar - also i must get food :) gl!
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, pick me up some tamales
[20:33] <reisio> daftykins: you should know more awful Windows trivia! :p
[20:33] <Shloop> I'm sorry reisio I'm not exactly sure what filesystem means. Are you asking if it's ubuntu? or fat32/ntfs
[20:33] <reisio> good for the self loathing
[20:33] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[20:33] <daftykins> reisio: i should? i was under the impression ext drivers for Windows were far behind Linux' NTFS one
[20:33] <reisio> Shloop: ext#?
[20:33] <Shloop> yeah tell me about it reisio
[20:34] <Shloop> I only use windows because it runs really good music production software
[20:34] <reisio> daftykins: about the same IME
[20:34] <Shloop> and wine doesn't work with the software
[20:34] <reisio> sure sure
[20:34] <Shloop> hmm let me check real quick reisio
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> Shloop, You might visit #opensourcemusicians
[20:34] <reisio> what FS?
[20:35] <Shloop> I don't know off the top of my head
[20:36] <Shloop> I'm checking
[20:36] <reisio> so check :p
[20:36] <linrunix> Hi, anybody with 3monitors working?
[20:36] <linrunix> I'm having a tough time setting it up
[20:36] <Shloop> reisio ext4
[20:37] <Shloop> version 1.0
[20:38] <reisio> Shloop: then you can probably use extread for a one-of, or ext2fsd for long term
[20:38] <reisio> one-off
[20:40] <reisio> linrunix: gpu?
[20:40] <Shloop> i'll give it a shot. thanks reisio
[20:41] <Sk1Special> do does anyone know how to install the drivers for netgear WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231] in 12.10?
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> Sk1Special, You've seen the wiki"
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> ?
[20:42] <Sk1Special> wilee-nilee, nope?
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom
[20:42] <linrunix> reisio: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[20:42] <linrunix> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV620 LE [Radeon HD 3450]
[20:42] <Sk1Special> wilee-nilee, ah mmk. t/y t/y
[20:43] <linrunix> reisio: one is the internal card (intel) and an external card (ATI)
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> Sk1Special, no prob as k the channel if you have any problems I know nothing on broadcom. ;)
[20:43] <reisio> linrunix: which drivers?
[20:43] <linrunix> Both cards work perfectly when the other monitors are umplugged. But together is a no go.
[20:44] <Sk1Special> wilee-nilee, lol alright. I think youre the one that helped me with my video drives before tho right? i may be asking for help with that in a minute
[20:44] <linrunix> reisio: default drivers intalled by ubuntu 13.04
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> Sk1Special, I doubt it was me other than a hey, look here link, I have not had to mess with any drivers ever in about 6 years of use.
[20:45] <linrunix> reisio: radeon for the ATI
[20:45] <reisio> linrunix: the 'restricted' (binary) ati drivers come with a GUI configurator
[20:45] <reisio> otherwise you probably have some xrandr ahead
[20:45] <linrunix> reisio: i915 for the intel
[20:46] <Sk1Special> wilee-nilee, ah no i was having alot of issues with nvidia/dual monitors / the desktop cube like 6 months ago.. my second monitor display is just like an inch to big now for somereason..but i gotta figure this out first
[20:49] <italia> hola hablan espaniol
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> !es | italia
[20:50] <italia> ty
[20:50] <italia> thanks
[20:50] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[20:50] <vmussa> Hello, I just installed the haskell platform package from ubuntu repositories but it asked me to uninstall some packages, and I think because of that ubuntu can't boot with graphical user interface anymore
[20:51] <vmussa> anyone knows what packages I need to reinstall or something?
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> !info haskell
[20:51] <reisio> vmussa: ordinary Ubuntu?
[20:51] <histo> vmussa: well which packages did it uninstall?
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, What release you running?
[20:51] <vmussa> reisio, it is precise
[20:51] <vmussa> I don't remember exactly what packages but I do remember a "x" in its name
[20:52] <reisio> vmussa: could try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:52] <histo> vmussa: take a look at your /var/log/apt/history.log
[20:52] <vmussa> I think it is some graphical lib perhaps?
[20:52] <reisio> perhaps
[20:52] <vmussa> ok histo
[20:52] <vmussa> reisio, ubuntu-desktop is the graphical packages?
[20:53] <vmussa> histo, apparently this "history.log" only saves what I did since I booted?
[20:54] <vmussa> because I installed haskell platform yesterday, and only today I could get the boot problem
[20:54] <histo> vmussa: there are older versions gzipped in the /var/log/apt/  directory you can use zless to view those
[20:54] <vmussa> ok
[20:55] <khan> hi
[20:55] <reisio> hi
[20:55] <khan> sallam
[20:56] <hadifarnoud> Can someone help me with squid3? this is what I get when I do squid3 -z
[20:56] <Vivekananda> hey everyone. I was trying this to make my ip static -- http://superuser.com/questions/357120/how-do-i-setup-a-virtualbox-server-with-a-static-ip .  But when I restarted my virtual box , eth0 completely disappeared :(.
[20:56] <Vivekananda> what did I do wrong ?
[20:56] <hadifarnoud> https://gist.github.com/hadifarnoud/8b6d7edfdf91505883ee
[20:57] <histo> Vivekananda: perhaps a typo in your /etc/network/interfaces
[20:57] <linrunix> reisio: reading only they say that the restricted drivers breaks my card :/
[20:57] <linrunix> Looks like my card is old
[20:57] <histo> Vivekananda: can you pastebinit so we can take a look
[20:58] <linrunix> xrandr?
[20:58] <histo> Vivekananda: also somewhere above those settings make sure you have auto eth0 line that way the interface is brought up on boot with those settings
[21:00] <hadifarnoud> which one was rewrite the output to a file? > or >>? I know one of them append and other one just rewite it all
[21:00] <GabeTheBabe> hello fellow fleshlings
[21:00] <reisio> hello, mortal
[21:00] <zykotick9> hadifarnoud: > overwrites, >> appends
[21:00] <hadifarnoud> cheers zykotick9
[21:00] <iceroot_> hadifarnoud: >> append, > overwrite
[21:01] <GabeTheBabe> so, I'm trying to backup someones files from windows using a live environment of ububuntu via USB flash drive and I'm not quite sure what to get/how to find it all.
[21:01] <GabeTheBabe> under the temp folder, it looks empty.
[21:02] <reisio> GabeTheBabe: /sbin/blkid
[21:03] <histo> GabeTheBabe: how to find what?
[21:04] <Number6> Hey guys. I'm running a server on 13.04 x86. From time to time, the server hard locks and needs to be rebooted. The only thing of note in the kern.log is ^@^@^@^@^@^ (repeated many many times)
[21:04] <Nico___> Hey all
[21:04] <histo> Number6: memtest
[21:04] <GabeTheBabe> histo, what I need to back up of his windows installation. His OS is borked and I need to fix it lol
[21:05] <histo> GabeTheBabe: which version of windows?
[21:05] <Nico___> I want to install Ubuntu via Wubi, is this a valid way to go? Or do I just need to format my machine?
[21:05] <numberto> Hi guys, I am on ubuntu 13.04 and have some random presses, buttons which I don't press. Some programs start randomly.
[21:05] <Number6> histo: Already ran overnight, nothing noted
[21:05] <usr13> Number6: As histo suggests 1) memtest 2) clean / regrease
[21:05] <reisio> Nico___: it's suboptimal
[21:05] <histo> Nico___: no dualboot
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> GabeTheBabe, open it from the left panel in ubunt's home and recovery what is needed.
[21:05] <histo> Number6: power supply?
[21:05] <Number6> usr13: The CPU?
[21:05] <usr13> Number6: Yes
[21:06] <usr13> Number6: (Could be heat related.)
[21:06] <Number6> usr13: Great. I'll give that a try tomorrow.
[21:06] <kaelter> numberto: can you check to make sure nothing is inserted in a usb slot that isn't supposed to be? I've had people prank me like that before.
[21:06] <Number6> I've a feeling it's h/w related - the server is ~8 years old at this stage
[21:06] <histo> GabeTheBabe: if it's >XP then mount the windows driver and copy out his Users\$USER directory
[21:06] <histo> s/driver/drive/
[21:06] <numberto> kaelter: No I don't have
[21:06] <histo> Number6: if you have a spare power supply I would go there.
[21:07] <daftykins> Sk1Special: wired isn't an option then? :)
[21:07] <vmussa> histo, I found the packages it uninstalled: almost everything is related to "x11-apps", "xserver", "xorg-video" and things like that
[21:07] <vmussa> like those*
[21:07] <histo> vmussa: Yeah you need those
[21:07] <Nico___> histo: So I can keep my old files and stuff, just have the option to boot into Windows or Ubuntu?
[21:07] <Vivekananda> histo: yep I did not input the eth0 line earlier . now I did . So what I am trying to follow is this http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ubuntu-server-from-dhcp-to-a-static-ip-address/
[21:07] <reisio> vmussa: that'd do it
[21:07] <vmussa> I see
[21:07] <Vivekananda> I now got the eth0 but I dont have net
[21:08] <Vivekananda> histo: should I post my ifconfig and also my /etc/network/interfaces ?
[21:08] <vmussa> histo, reisio, so I should copy whatever it uninstalled and install again?
[21:08] <usr13> Vivekananda: Does the router have DHCP server running?
[21:09] <Vivekananda> usr13: not very familiar with dhcp setting but yes it is checked
[21:09] <usr13> Vivekananda: Is it connected to the LAN but no internet?
[21:09] <reisio> vmussa: try ubuntu-desktop first
[21:09] <histo> Vivekananda: if you didn't have the auto eth0    line in there that's why eth0 didn't start on boot. Once it's there restart and all will be good
[21:09] <usr13> Vivekananda: Can you ping the gateway router?
[21:10] <Vivekananda> usr13: my host is win 7 has the router and has net. my ubuntu is a guest on vbox . I changed the network mode to abridged and since I am hosting a LOCal app I am trying to get it to show a static internal ip
[21:10] <histo> Vivekananda: If you have no net and can ping <IP_ADDRESS>   you need to add nameservers to your interfaces
[21:10] <Vivekananda> histo: do I ping from the vm or from win7 to the internet ?
[21:10] <histo> Vivekananda: ping <IP_ADDRESS>   on the vm
[21:11] <Vivekananda> yes it pings
[21:11] <Vivekananda> receiving
[21:11] <usr13> Vivekananda: Add line to /etc/resolv.conf   "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>"
[21:11] <vmussa> reisio, ok
[21:11] <usr13> Vivekananda: and/or take out the bogus one.
[21:12] <histo> Vivekananda: then in the /etc/network/interfaces file add dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> whatever else
[21:12] <histo> usr13: you can't use resolv.conf because it will be overwritten by the resolvconf package
[21:12] <usr13> Vivekananda: Or, yes, do as histo said.
[21:12] <usr13> histo: Yes, quite possibly, (but only if he is set to dhcp).
[21:13] <histo> Vivekananda: just make sure it's in the iface section
[21:13] <Vivekananda> following histo then . Also the resolv.conf tells me do not edit this file-- changes will be overwritten :(
[21:13] <Traccy> histo : http://pastie.org/8212836
[21:13] <histo> usr13: no it will still be overwritten even without dhcp on boot
[21:13] <gregor3005> hi, i try to install ubuntu 13.04 on an pentium 4 processor workstation and i get an internal error when i boot into the live cd, executable /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test
[21:13] <vmussa> reisio, apparently it is installing everything haskell removed
[21:13] <usr13> Vivekananda: Yea, on the next boot, or if you query a dhcp server that is giving false info.
[21:13] <gregor3005> also unity didn't boot up, only two desktop icons "examples" and "install ubuntu 13.04"
[21:14] <histo> Traccy: What is that?
[21:14] <hadifarnoud> is <IP_ADDRESS>/8 like <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[21:14] <Traccy> histo :error
[21:14] <reisio> vmussa: sounds right
[21:14] <Traccy> every time i run programmes
[21:14] <histo> Traccy: from?   You just sent me a random pastebin perhaps giving more details may help.
[21:14] <Vivekananda> histo: you said to add dns-nameserver S ? singular or plural ?
[21:14] <usr13> histo: Yes, but if the dhcp server is giving correct info, (valid nameserver), it won't matter.
[21:15] <Vivekananda> also let me paste what I have after adding
[21:15] <histo> Traccy: 1. Why are you logged in as root? 2. What version of ubuntu are you running
[21:15] <Traccy> yes iam root
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, Possible number of issues in general ram amount, graphic drivers are two that come to mind, bad iso or burn.
[21:15] <histo> Vivekananda: plural
[21:16] <Traccy> histo : VERSION="12.04.2 LTS, Precise Pangolin"
[21:16] <vmussa> reisio, the problem is that I updated to grub 1.99, and I don't know how to boot ubuntu the right way from that "bash-like command interface", do you know where should I get help?
[21:16] <histo> !locale | Traccy
[21:17] <usr13> histo: dns-nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ?  (Maybe it will take both?)
[21:17] <Vivekananda> histo: pastebin.com/rYpprHY6
[21:17] <reisio> vmussa: how is that a problem?
[21:17] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: the iso is ok, boots perfect with an vm, ram = 1,5gb, graphic is onboard -> i try ubuntu 12
[21:17] <histo> usr13: no dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>  you can specify multiples
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, Same computer?
[21:18] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: no on my workstation, the old workstation is for a friend who need its only for firefox and thunderbird
[21:18] <histo> Vivekananda: looks good but just FYI that is google's free dns server you can add the other one if you want to that line or use your ISPs nameservers
[21:18] <daftykins> gregor3005: sounds like the systems graphics card isn't supported
[21:18] <freddianlopez> hello
[21:18] <Vivekananda> should I restart my host too ? or just the vm ?
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, Cool, there is always xubuntu and lubuntu.
[21:18] <reisio> hi
[21:18] <usr13> histo: Ok. Well, it is something I don't use.  I either set perminate leases in the router or set to static and just edit /etc/resolv.conf
[21:18] <histo> Vivekananda: you can just restart networking
[21:19] <gregor3005> daftykins: i have an ati 9250 (128mb ddr) which i can test with this workstation
[21:19] <histo> Vivekananda: sudo service networking restart   on the VM
[21:19] <dashpot> I'm so horny
[21:19] <Vivekananda> which other line histo ?
[21:19] <histo> !ot | dashpot
[21:19] <vmussa> reisio, I don't know how to use this bash-like interface.  LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!
[21:20] <freddianlopez> h
[21:20] <histo> !language | dashpot
[21:20] <daftykins> gregor3005: i think that'll be too old to be supported too
[21:20] <daftykins> gregor3005: if you just want a simple system fire up xubuntu instead of plain ubuntu
[21:21] <Guest58029> does the NSA have built in access to Linux/Ubuntu just like with Windows? http://therebel.org/stone/655776-full-nsa-access-built-into-every-windows-os-since-1997
[21:21] <histo> !ops | dashpot
[21:21] <Ben64> Guest58029: no, and offtopic
[21:21] <freddianlopez> damn
[21:21] <freddianlopez> damn damn
[21:21] <gregor3005> daftykins: thx i download xubuntu while i test the ati card
[21:21] <Traccy> histo : http://pastie.org/8212925
[21:21] <gregor3005> daftykins: whats the main difference between xubuntu and ubuntu?
[21:22] <Traccy> histo : nothing change http://pastie.org/8212925
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> Guest58029, Back to trool again eh.
[21:22] <daftykins> gregor3005: ubuntu uses unity, which requires 3D, xubuntu uses xfce which is lightweight and 3D
[21:22] <usr13> gregor3005: xfce vs unity
[21:22] <histo> Traccy: yeah you need to set your locale. What is uncommented in your /etc/locale.gen ?
[21:22] <daftykins> *2D on the last one
[21:22] <gregor3005> daftykins, usr13: thx
[21:23] <usr13> gregor3005: distrowatch.com
[21:23] <vmussa> reisio, I don't know exactly what a prompt is, but I'm in a command line interface for GRUB 1.99
[21:23] <histo> Traccy: modify your /etc/default/locale
[21:23] <gregor3005> usr13: thx
[21:23] <histo> Traccy: following those directions should help
[21:23] <reisio> vmussa: ok
[21:24] <histo> vmussa: you removed X
[21:24] <Vivekananda> histo: do I key in dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>    like that or do I write something else
[21:24] <reisio> vmussa: you get that every reboot? Since reinstalling ubuntu-desktop?
[21:24] <histo> Vivekananda: yeap looks good
[21:24] <vmussa> reisio, histo, yes, even now that I reinstalled ubuntu-desktop
[21:24] <vmussa> maybe I should reinstall GRUB2?
[21:25] <Guest58029> wilee-nilee, linux/ubuntu is good for that increased added security and privacy.... the worst set up would probably be with a Windows OS and an Intel CPU
[21:25] <Vivekananda> ok let me try
[21:26] <reisio> vmussa: is it a '>' prompt?
[21:26] <Vivekananda> had two other things
[21:26] <vmussa> reisio, yes "grub> "
[21:26] <gregor3005> daftykins, usr13: good news, with the ati card unity starts up
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, This is a partitioned install not a wubi install from windows right?
[21:26] <reisio> vmussa: how did you reinstall ubuntu-desktop from there?
[21:26] <Prometheian> Anyone here do any bitcoin mining with CGMiner?
[21:27] <gregor3005> daftykins, usr13: i test a installation and replace unity with xfce after the installation finished
[21:27] <daftykins> gregor3005: oh wow - i guess that's the radeon driver running with that ancient card
[21:27] <gregor3005> daftykins: hm, it is very slow
[21:27] <Guest58029> wilee-nilee, http://www.maxkeiser.com/2013/06/intels-chips-allow-for-remote-access-prism-has-access-to-anything-with-an-intel-chip-and-other-stuff/
[21:27] <Prometheian> On Ubuntu.
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> !anyone | Prometheian
[21:28] <Vivekananda> histo: if I do sudo service network-manager stop I still get net. why is that ?
[21:28] <Guest58029> !details
[21:28] <daftykins> gregor3005: yeah too heavy for old hardware, xfce will help
[21:28] <Ben64> !ot | Guest58029
[21:28] <Lajjla> So I have some scripts which compute some output, for some reason if I run these through putty on another machine I get the output faster. Is iths normal?
[21:29] <histo> Vivekananda: because you configured the /etc/network/interfaces manually. If you are using network-manager just configure the interface in there for static
[21:29] <Lajjla> Like if I putty via another machine, doe sit then run the scripts on the other computer's CPU or what?
[21:29] <iceroot_> Lajjla: yes
[21:29] <gregor3005> daftykins: i'm excited how it runs
[21:29] <Prometheian> I'm getting errors trying to start CGMiner. When I use -u and -p for my user and password, it says "Use only user + pass or userpass, but not both." even if I just use -u
[21:29] <histo> Lajjla: the processing is done on the other machine just as if you were running the script locally
[21:30] <Lajjla> iceroot_, seriously? So even if I don't have python installd on the other machine?
[21:30] <Lajjla> It loads python into memory via the internet on the other machine and interprets the script there?
[21:30] <iceroot_> Lajjla: when python is not installed on the target you cant execute python there
[21:30] <iceroot_> Lajjla: ssh is just giving you remote access to the other machine
[21:30] <Traccy> histo : sorry for dissconect what was you say
[21:30] <Lajjla> I feel we are talking past each other, I'm using SSH
[21:30] <Vivekananda> histo: got it . so I should now disable networ-manager ( will miss the connection strength symbol though bu it is no biggie). Also now if I do sudo service networking restart then it would same as the init.d networking stop and start right ?
[21:30] <iceroot_> !ssh | Lajjla
[21:31] <Lajjla> iceroot_, so is or isn't it executed on the machine which runs putty with SSH?
[21:32] <vmussa> reisio, I managed to boot ubuntu from this prompt with help from some website
[21:32] <vmussa> reisio, but it was like a recovery mode terminal only boot
[21:32] <reisio> vmussa: that doesn't answer my question
[21:32] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, this is a partitioned installed
[21:32] <vmussa> reisio, I'm trying to remember exactly but it was something like:
[21:33] <vmussa> grub> linux   (hd0,1)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-9-generic root=/dev/sda1;
[21:33] <vmussa> grub> initrd  (hd0,1)/boot/initrd.img-2.6.27-9-generic;
[21:33] <vmussa> grub> boot
[21:33] <Ben64> vmussa: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:33] <Vivekananda> Lajjla: from what little i know putty will allow you to execute code to the other computer ( not the one you are sitting in front) as if you were physically there
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Are you in your desktop?
[21:34] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, I'm running Xchat on windows on my desktop and trying to boot ubuntu again on my laptop
[21:35] <Ben64> vmussa: use the boot repair i linked you to
[21:35] <Vivekananda> histo: ?
[21:35] <Lajjla> Vivekananda, so even though the other computer has no python implementation installs, it over the network loads the python interpreter into memory and executes the script on the putty machine which is 64 bit to the 32 bit host machine and both having different operating systems?
[21:35] <Lajjla> Impressive stuff, technology has no limit
[21:35] <vmussa> Ben64, I think I will try to reinstall grub first
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Sounded like you manually booted to the desktop is this right or still no X.
[21:35] <Vivekananda> Lajjla: I am not sure if the script will execute on the remote if it does not have python
[21:36] <Vivekananda> have you tried calling the interpreter on the remote and seeing if it is there ?
[21:36] <Lajjla> Vivekananda, what if they have different versions which have different behaviours?
[21:36] <Ben64> Lajjla: you're making it too complicated. the client doesn't matter at all. the server is the one doing all the processing
[21:36] <Vivekananda> perhaps a simple python --version > text will tell you
[21:36] <Vivekananda> Lajjla: irrespective of the versions , the execution will depend on the language bein present but yes
[21:36] <Vivekananda> the speed might differ. But is this question ubuntu related ?
[21:37] <Vivekananda> coz if not then .....
[21:37] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, I don't understand what you're saying :(
[21:37] <kriskropd> Is anyone here familiar with feh? I want to set a background in dwm like this 'feh --no-xinerama --bg-center image.jpg' and it works, but now I see I would like to have the image off center by a few hundred pixels for a better background. Can I do this using just feh, or do I have to custom edit the image?
[21:38] <cerv0> hello evreybody since a while i've been looking for an offline translator "englesh to french" but i can't find it , someone can help me with that?
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Have you gotten to the desktop as of late the commands to boot grub> you posted are a manual boot.
[21:38] <histo> Vivekananda: yes
[21:38] <Lajjla> Vivekananda, quite fascinating, I always just assumed SSH just backstaged a terminal on the host machine and then relayed the input
[21:39] <Vivekananda> lol then you need to know ssh a little more. Doesnot tunnel ring a bell ( english wise ) . why would you tunnel through your own home ( very naively speaking)
[21:39] <histo> Vivekananda: Yes restart is the same as stop then start and yes you no longer need network-manager if you are using a hard configured interfaces file
[21:40] <Vivekananda> histo: great
[21:40] <Vivekananda> histo: had an offtopic python question actually. could I ask you somewhere ? or laters ?
[21:40] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, since I removed the X packages, I couldn't boot ubuntu. So I tried to update GRUB through the ubuntu recory boot menu. When I restarted the computer, GRUB had no graphic interface anymore, and now I have to manually boot ubuntu
[21:41] <cerv0> hello evreybody since a while i've been looking for an offline translator "englesh to french" but i can't find it , someone can help me with that?
[21:41] <histo> Lajjla: When you execute commands via ssh they are run on the remote system that you are connecting to
[21:41] <histo> Vivekananda: pm and I'll try and answer
[21:41] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, I did it once, and managed to reinstall ubuntu-desktop. Now I'm trying to remember how to get to ubuntu again
[21:41] <Lajjla> histo, and if the remote system does not have the interpreter?
[21:41] <histo> Lajjla: the only thing displayed locally is the output all processing work horse stuff is done on the remote machine
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, And the manual boot gets you to the desktop, you can do all the grub things you need from the dektop.
[21:41] <histo> Lajjla: then the script won't run
[21:42] <Lajjla> histo, ehh wait, remote system is the host right?
[21:42] <histo> Lajjla: yes
[21:42] <Lajjla> Yeah, had that mixed up
[21:42] <Lajjla> Okay,t that's what I assumed
[21:42] <Lajjla> histo, so, I am then confused, why does the script run noticibly faster if I execute it with putty from another machine
[21:42] <histo> Lajjla: like if I use ssh on computer A to connect to computer B. Computer B is doing all the processing work. Computer A is just displaying output
[21:43] <Lajjla> I'm talking about a script which takes about 15 seconds on one machine to return the value and does it in 5 with putty.
[21:43] <Lajjla> histo, yeah that is what I assumed
[21:43] <Ben64> Lajjla: either you're incorrect in timing, or something else is slowing it down
[21:43] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, But I can't remember how to get to the desktop
[21:43] <OerHeks> kriskropd, there is not such an option, stretch and limit are >> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man1/feh.1.html
[21:43] <Traccy> histo : perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> vmussa,use the bootrepair as suggested, which genrates a script url if you are still having problems to post or use super grub to boot ubuntu again.  http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[21:43] <histo> Lajjla: Differences in the hardware/software. Like windows vs. linux
[21:43] <Lajjla> Ben, maybe Konsole is just a slow terminal hmm
[21:43] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Bootrepair fixes grub generally
[21:43] <kriskropd> Lajjla: run the script like this 'time script.sh' it will produce stopwatch details fro your scritp
[21:43] <Ben64> Lajjla: try it in xterm
[21:43] <kriskropd> script*
[21:43] <Traccy> histo : i do all steps in this topic and still get error http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1720356
[21:44] <histo> Traccy: I don't know.  Perhaps you need to start over and ask your question in here with details.
[21:44] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, ok, but for that I need to boot from USB or CD, right?
[21:44] <histo> !details | Traccy
[21:44] <histo> Traccy: and maybe someone else can help you.
[21:44] <kriskropd> Lajjla: and like others are saying, you might be using a slow terminal or an environment with a lot of overhead - try with xterm or rxvt
[21:45] <kriskropd> OerHeks: I read the manual several times and couldn't find it, so I thought I would ask around, thanks for double checking :)
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, You have multiple options, a manual as you did, the easiest is supergrub from a disc or usb to get to the desktop and repair grub or load ot to the mbr from the terminal.
[21:46] <Lajjla> Oh I'm an idiot, I know what causes it, the script retrives data from the internet, whenever I did it on the host itself I was also using the internet in the mean while. ==
[21:46] <sgex> what IRC client do you guys recommend using on ubuntu?
[21:46] <OerHeks> kriskropd, there is a Pan option, see "buttons" section, not sure if that can do what you want.
[21:46] <Lajjla> Depends on what you want.
[21:46] <kriskropd> sgex: pidgin if you must have gui, irssi otherwise
[21:46] <histo> sgex: weechat
[21:46] <mitch__> sgex, i'm currently using XChat and i really like it so far
[21:46] <Lajjla> People who recommend anything without asking you what you want tend to recommend the wrong thing for your personal needs
[21:47] <zykotick9> sgex: xchat is popular gui client, irssi/weechat for console is popular
[21:47] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, I think will try supergrub then
[21:47] <k1l_> sgex: xchat, irssi,... the list is long. better test what suits you best
[21:47] <sgex> I was using xchat-gnome but it keeps crashing on 13.04
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, bootrepair from a live cd/usb regular fix will probably fix this as well, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repairsave the url generated.
[21:47] <k1l_> sgex: try the real xchat without that -gnome
[21:47] <sgex> cheers for suggestions, I know it was a generic question
[21:47] <sgex> I will
[21:47] <zykotick9> sgex: fyi, xchat-gnome is not xchat... just sayin'
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair*
[21:48] <kriskropd> OerHeks: no that wouldn't work because that is in regards to interactive mode
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, If you get to the desktop with supergrub I will give you the loading the grub bootloader commands.
[21:50] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, thank you, I'm trying to make a bootable USB from supergrub
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, unetbootin works fine, just choose the find any os in the gui, and choose the ubuntu choice to get in.
[21:51] <tommer> Paulfantom, are you here?
[21:51] <paulfantom> tommer, jep
[21:51] <tommer> ciekawe kiedy nas wywalą :P
[21:51] <paulfantom> może tego nie zrobią
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> tommer, paulfantom take it to the proper language channel please
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> or PM
[21:53] <Traccy> histo : -bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (en_US.UTF-8)
[21:54] <ubuntutis> i really need help with nightingale how do you import whole cds wit it
[21:54] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, I managed to boot from grub 2
[21:54] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, I'm on desktop
[21:54] <ubuntutis> i really need help with nightingale how do you import whole cds wit it
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Cool is the HD sda run sudo fdisk -l to confirm this.
[21:56] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, sda5 is "Linux"
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, And this is not a former Windows 8 or uefi gpt dualboot right?
[21:56] <Traccy> i fix the problem of locale : anyone face it again read this = http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2499794/how-can-i-fix-a-locale-warning-from-perl
[21:57] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, This HD is a former windows 7 which I formatted through a windows 8 installation and then partitioned by installing ubuntu in it
[21:57] <vmussa> why? :o
[21:58] <ubuntutis> so nobody knows how to import whole cds to nightingale?
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Right I'm just trying to make sure you are using a standard partitioning set up not the uefi gpt which uses a boot partition rather than the mbr for the boot loader.
[21:59] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, oh, tahnk you
[21:59] <k1l_> ubuntutis: if no one knows the answer you could take a look into ubuntuforums or askubuntu
[22:00] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, do you recommend reinstalling grub2 now?
[22:00] <Vivekananda> histo: the other on topic question was. after doing all that I got a static internal ip. so 1. could I give it a name so anyone wanting to go it write a word instead of <IP_ADDRESS> .. 2. If I wanted to expose this app to external world would I use the same ip ( reading material for it plz ) 3. I wanted to understand how all this set up takes place esp what nameserver does . ubuntu reading was helpful but more of it plz
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, the two are different and have diffrent fixes, took a inordinate amount of posts and time to get you here by many on the channel, would like to get you fixed. ;)
[22:00] <Sk1Special> okay so im running the upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04 in terminal..it said there was an issue with the desktop file and gave me a couple options..i chose to looj at the list using D and see what the differences were.. when i scroll to the end it just shows END.. how do i get back to the upgrade
[22:00] <ubuntutis> i tried googling the issue but it doesnt clarify t
[22:00] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, haha sure!
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Can you screenshot gparted and imagebin it you may need to install it.
[22:01] <Vivekananda> histo: sent you the pm too !
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin | vmussa
[22:02] <daftykins> Vivekananda: installing samba on it and configuring it to broadcast its' hostname may allow the other computers on the network to resolve its' IP by hostname, yeah
[22:02] <Sk1Special> okay i got back.. is it gonna mess with anything by accepting the new version of /etc/gnome/defaults.list?
[22:03] <daftykins> take a backup just in case
[22:03] <daftykins> i would say no
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, the bots message tells you the screenshot method and place to post it
[22:03] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, ok
[22:03] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, is it for future problems?
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, No I an jut trying to confirm your partitioning setup.
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> am*
[22:04] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, ok, I will do it the
[22:04] <vmussa> then*
[22:06] <MrSassyPants> ok, so I got no sound.
[22:07] <MrSassyPants> no reason.
[22:07] <MrSassyPants> everything seems to be in working order.
[22:07] <MrSassyPants> no errors.
[22:07] <MrSassyPants> just no sound.
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> MrSassyPants, The your hallucinating if there is no reason
[22:08] <MrSassyPants> wilee-nilee, there may be a reason but the system isn't telling me
[22:08] <MrSassyPants> I don't like it if it plays hard to get
[22:08] <demifuror> hey guys, what command can i use in the terminal to list connected hard drives (sata drives in this case)?
[22:08] <MrSassyPants> makes me get another system, you know
[22:08] <DAL|Desktop> Hullo, running 12.04, I can't figure out how to restart ALSA since there isn't a /etc/init.d/alsa-utils what should I be using instead?
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> demifuror, sudo fdisk -l will list all partitions
[22:09] <demifuror> wilee-nilee: whats the root password on a live cd?
[22:09] <histo> !sudo | demifuror
[22:09] <hadifarnoud> my squid doesn't have ssl support? sudo squid3 -v |grep ssl  shows me nothing
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> demifuror, Ubuntu has no root password.
[22:09] <histo> demifuror: there is no root password
[22:09] <histo> demifuror: sudo lsblk
[22:09] <histo> demifuror: or sudo blkid
[22:10] <Uni> hey, trying to update the ruby1.9.1 packages to patchlevel 448+some others, anyhow, having trouble finding out how to update alternatives from the package, would anyone know where I should look for this info?
[22:10] <demifuror> okay thanks guys
[22:10] <histo> demifuror: and actually lsblk doesn't require sudo priveledges
[22:10] <wilee-nilee> demifuror, there is a user password in the install to get superuser access.
[22:10] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, http://imagebin.org/266755
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Not gparted, okay lets do this install the bootrepair app, read carefully here, there is a bootinfo summary button run "just that" and post the url generated  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:13] <MrSassyPants> so, anyone know why I don't have sound?
[22:14] <Guest92835> hello, i've a problem with bricked foscam. I connect it with UART. Now I can see messages but I can't send "ESC" to enter in debug mode.
[22:14] <roger1> MrSassyPants: speakers plugged into power and turned on? Speaker jack plugged into right audio out port? Volume not muted?  WE NEED TO CONFIRM THE PARTITIONING SYSTEM TO FIX THIS CORRECTLY, THE BOOTINFO SUMMARY WILL GIVE US THE INFO NEEDED.
[22:17] <ss__> I need to free
[22:18] <k1l_> wilee-nilee: no need for caps.
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> ;) there is a point being missed here
[22:18] <roger1> MrSassyPants: if you haven't already... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[22:18] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, haha ok
[22:18] <histo> woooosahhhhhh
[22:18] <ss__> so shrinking of 600 gb OS takes long time with Gparted?
[22:18] <ss__> I think I have sata
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, I was not actually shouting just making a point.
[22:19] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, haha ok
[22:19] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, haha ok
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[22:19] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, oops, sorry for the triple message
[22:19] <k1l_> wilee-nilee: if you are done with your patience take a breath and give the support ticket to the next one
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> k1l_, My patience is fine.
[22:19] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, ok lol, I will do it then :D
[22:19] <k1l_> vmussa: we are volunteers. so please keep that in your mind, that others take their spare time to help here.
[22:20] <ss__> I don't want to loose files, but I have to stay to see if formatting will work out
[22:20] <vmussa> k1l_, wilee-nilee, I see
[22:20] <histo> ss__: resizing always risks data loss
[22:20] <ss__> histo, I did it
[22:20] <ss__> yes
[22:20] <MrSassyPants> roger1, it appears they're muted, but they're not
[22:21] <MrSassyPants> and yes, I did try mute & unmute everything
[22:26] <roger1> MrSassyPants: ok, good luck.
[22:27] <roger1> MrSassyPants: /me has to return to real life
[22:27] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, here is the link -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5956732/
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Thanks a lot looks good just run this command sudo grub-install /dev/sda then run sudo update-grub and you should be set. ;)
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, From your install desktop of course in the terminal.
[22:29] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, but, in fact GRUB2 is now working normally here, should I do this anyway?
[22:29]  * xrandr loves having ubuntu on his new laptop instead of Windows 8 :)
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, So you see the grub bootmenu at powering on?
[22:30] <vmussa> yes o.o
[22:30] <vladimir> хэй
[22:30] <vmussa> I run this in the terminal: sudo apt-get install grub2
[22:30] <vmussa> ran*
[22:31] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, Heh, you had been manually booting before so it magically fixed itself or was this a communication problem?
[22:31] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, in fact, I only had to manually boot when I updated GRUB after removing X packages
[22:32] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, I updated GRUB that time, because I thought this was the problem
[22:32] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, then I got a GRUB version without graphic interface
[22:32] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, You had at one point said grub got you in but after we were working on supergrub which boots grub, so anyway glad your working, lol.
[22:33] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, after I reinstalled the X packages, I reinstalled grub too, I didn't use supergrub
[22:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> Is there an Ubuntu-specific way to reorder / set the default soundcard?
[22:33] <Eduard_Munteanu> Or just the same old /etc/modprobe.d stuff?
[22:34] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, it was me the one who was helped here so thank you :)
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> vmussa, just a mix up, I tried to ask very specific questions and still failed to get the exact info needed, it happens, glad you are up and running normal. ;)
[22:37] <vmussa> wilee-nilee, thank you, I couldn't have made it without you guys.
[22:37] <fishcooker> i've tried lubuntu 12.04 on my box but  always kernel panic
[22:37] <fishcooker> which release should i use
[22:37] <daftykins> fishcooker: what's the system spec?
[22:37] <fishcooker> im using lubuntu i386
[22:37] <fishcooker> how to know the system spec daftykins
[22:38] <Sk1Special> any special things i need to do after upgrading from 12.10 to 13.04 via terminal? it was saying a lot of stuff about removing my programs and changing  things.
[22:38] <fishcooker> i've installed netbook version on it
[22:38] <fishcooker> 10.04
[22:38] <fishcooker> and seem it not stable
[22:38] <fishcooker> anymore
[22:38] <daftykins> fishcooker: umm do you have a make + model ?
[22:38] <wilee-nilee> !eol | fishcooker
[22:38] <k1l_> 10.04 is out of support for desktop
[22:38] <fishcooker> yes i know wilee-nilee
[22:38] <fishcooker> that;s why
[22:38] <fishcooker> i want to fresh install it
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, the netbook version has not been supported in a long time.
[22:39] <fishcooker> yes
[22:39] <fishcooker>  i know it
[22:39] <fishcooker> but afaik
[22:39] <fishcooker> those special box
[22:39] <daftykins> that's what we call an old-fashioned lynching
[22:39] <fishcooker> have installed with netbook version
[22:39] <fishcooker> it works well till i do release upgrade
[22:39] <fishcooker> so here i want to fresh install
[22:39] <wilee-nilee> daftykins, I have a degree in Black Studies that is an offesive comment
[22:40] <fishcooker> which release should i take?
[22:40] <daftykins> fishcooker: what make+model is it?
[22:40] <fishcooker> i still have root access to those box
[22:40] <fishcooker> daftykins:
[22:40] <fishcooker> how?
[22:40] <fishcooker> it's shenzhen
[22:40] <fishcooker> box
[22:40] <fishcooker> how to know the model
[22:41] <fishcooker> through command line daftykins
[22:41] <daftykins> does it not have a label anywhere?
[22:41] <CodySmith> hey guys!!!
[22:41] <CodySmith> hows it going
[22:41] <daftykins> 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' - 'lspci' - etc
[22:41] <daftykins> CodySmith: hi, good. do you have a question?
[22:42] <wilee-nilee> CodySmith, ubuntu support here chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:42] <CodySmith> no just seeing whats up :0
[22:42] <ajeffri> lshw might also have hardware ifo
[22:42] <ajeffri> if it's installed
[22:42] <Hrvatski> :D
[22:43] <daftykins> ajeffri: not exactly readable though XD
[22:43] <Hrvatski> hello gays kkk
[22:43] <Moe> ubottu
[22:44] <ajeffri> daftykins: definitely needs to be piped through grep or more
[22:44] <fishcooker> lspci
[22:44] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5956775/
[22:44] <Moe> ubottu is a bot!
[22:44] <fishcooker> lshw
[22:44] <daftykins> 8D
[22:45] <Moe> You are a bot!
[22:45] <Moe> AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[22:45] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5956779/
[22:45] <histo> fishcooker: memtest
[22:45] <k1l_> Moe: do you have a ubuntu support issue?
[22:45] <daftykins> fishcooker: so what did lubuntu do again sorry?
[22:45] <Moe> YEP!
[22:45] <fishcooker> there is no memtest histo
[22:45] <histo> !memtest
[22:45] <fishcooker> always kernel panic daftykins
[22:46] <daftykins> fishcooker: i'd try a memtest as histo recommends then
[22:46] <Moe> bye
[22:46] <histo> !testing | fishcooker
[22:46] <fishcooker> hmmm
[22:46] <fishcooker> why should i test memtest
[22:46] <fishcooker> the previous netbook version
[22:46] <fishcooker> work well there
[22:47] <fishcooker> till do release upgrade
[22:47] <Tom6> Embrace kitten! ^^ http://www.dogandcat74.ru/files/images/000-12-1024x768_0.preview.jpg
[22:47] <Tom6> :)))
[22:47] <fishcooker> cpu info
[22:47] <k1l_> !ot | Tom6
[22:47] <fishcooker> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5956784/
[22:48] <daftykins> fishcooker: seems a pretty good spec, maybe your install medium was damaged / badly made
[22:48] <daftykins> fishcooker: memtest will only cost you time then you'll know for sure
[22:48] <fishcooker> hmmm
[22:48] <fishcooker> yes i will give it a try
[22:49] <fishcooker> but im work kinda from a remote place
[22:49] <fishcooker> that's why i ask here
[22:49] <fishcooker> which release for this special box
[22:49] <fishcooker> or it is the fate for the box
[22:49] <fishcooker> using the eol version of netbook edition
[22:49] <fishcooker> LoL
[22:50] <daftykins> fishcooker: doubt it :) it should easily run lots
[22:50] <fishcooker> well let's assume that the media install (lubuntu*.iso) is bad media
[22:51] <fishcooker> but according to my data paste
[22:51] <fishcooker> what should you advice to me daftykins
[22:51] <fishcooker> for the release version?
[22:52] <daftykins> fishcooker: xubuntu or lubuntu 12.04.2 or newer, in general
[22:52] <Tom6> Mexican advertising chainsaws. http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/chainsaw-beheading-video-sinaloa-cartel-members-decapitated-mexico/
[22:52] <italia> hi, how can i go to system in ubuntu 13.04 please
[22:53] <fishcooker> ok thanks
[22:53] <fishcooker> i'll give it a try
[22:53] <fishcooker> thanks all
[22:54] <italia> #sex
[22:54] <wilee-nilee> italia, What is the end goal with system?
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> don't bother answering your in ignore now
[22:57] <Ghoul_> test
[22:57] <daftykins> Ghoul_: hi
[22:57] <Ghoul_> Hi guys! I built the current kernel 3.8.0 to test building a custom kernel with a non-faulty dsdt. I followed instructions exactly including copying the existing config from my stock ubuntu kernel in 13.04
[22:58] <Ghoul_> however it fails to find root device on boot and grub times out. Any ideas?
[22:58] <derrikmaster> hi all how i scroll up/down in irssi client?
[22:58] <Ghoul_> pgup/pgdwn
[22:58] <derrikmaster> thanks
[22:58] <Ghoul_> or press a few different buttons. I don't fully remember sorry
[22:58] <daftykins> !dev
[22:58] <daftykins> hrmm
[22:59] <Ghoul_> Failure to find root device couldn't be the fault of the dsdt right?
[22:59] <daftykins> Ghoul_: i think there was a developers channel that might be more apt, #ubuntu-devel perhaps
[22:59] <ajeffri> Ghoul_: sounds like you need to run update-grub or something
[22:59] <Ghoul_> ah ok. thans
[22:59] <ajeffri> good call...you should probably check with the devs on this
[22:59] <Ghoul_> I looked at the grub file myself (i'm an arch user, so im pretty apt at that) and it looks fine
[23:00] <Ghoul_> the command line params are exactly the same for my custom one and the one that boots
[23:00] <ajeffri> update-grub does the actual writing-to-the-mbr thing, though
[23:00] <Ghoul_> whats really strange is when i get dropped into grub shell theres no drivers under /dev D: I'll take it up with the devs, thanks.
[23:00] <ajeffri> Oh.
[23:01] <ajeffri> definitely a problem for someone with more knowledge than I. I hope you are able to get help.
[23:03] <Ghoul_> :)
[23:03] <Ghoul_> I find it really annoying they removed the ability to load the dsdt from grub
[23:03] <daftykins> i don't even know what dsdt is :(
[23:04] <derrikmaster> lsmod
[23:04] <Sk1Special> how do i get to /etc/modules to edit it?
[23:04] <derrikmaster> ups
[23:05] <derrikmaster> sry wrong window
[23:05] <Sk1Special> thats the last part to get this wireless usb working.. i need to add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules so it loads on startup it says.
[23:05] <wilee-nilee> Ghoul_, For the record any kernels beside the stock installs are technically not supported.
[23:06] <daftykins> Sk1Special: just run 'sudo modprobe <modulename>'
[23:06] <wilee-nilee> Sk1Special, Can you share the usb modem with the channel.
[23:07] <daftykins> s/modem/dongle/
[23:08] <Ghoul_> toshiba put 2 dsdt's in my laptop, and linux (inc ubuntu) grabs the wrong one -- which doesn't have working battery or thermal, so I don't really have a choice
[23:08] <Ghoul_> brb rebooting from some advice from devels :)
[23:08] <Sk1Special> wilee-nilee, daftykins lol its a broadcom bcm43231. none of the linux drivers work for that exact model.. but i found the windows driver loader thing that does get it to work..and its working now..the guide was just saying that i had to run gksudo /etc/modules and add 'ndiswrapper' to that list so that i wouldnt have to restart it everytime i restarted..but that command didnt return anything so
[23:09] <daftykins> Sk1Special: ah cool
[23:09] <daftykins> Sk1Special: so how come wired wasn't an option? 'cause like once you upgrade you'll probably need to undo a lot of what you've done :<
[23:09] <daftykins> or even re-do
[23:10] <Sk1Special> daftykins, ah yeah no already finished upgrading and all through a shared wired link to my laptop..but obviously that wont work longterm so. i ran sudo modprobe ndiswrapper like you said..didnt give me any feedback just took it..so is that good now?
[23:11] <daftykins> Sk1Special: you may need to restart network manager to make it realise - if the interface has just appeared
[23:12] <Sk1Special> daftykins, i need to do what? exactly how? lol. here before we do all that..let me restart and see if it stays
[23:12] <daftykins> ;)
[23:15] <Sk1Special> while im here.. is it normal to have an exceptionally long start up? before it says ubuntu when it gets to just the cursor flashing it stays there for a good 2 minutes with no activity lights showing
[23:16] <daftykins> Sk1Special: what kind of computer? laptop? what brand? what kind of storage, SSD/HDD?
[23:17] <Sk1Special> daftykins, well pc, hdd, around 60gb free i think, older core 2 duo setup..im just asking cus its significantly longer then 12.10 startup was
[23:17] <fudus> sporks
[23:18] <daftykins> Sk1Special: is it the only OS on there?
[23:18] <daftykins> Sk1Special: ah actually you said cursor flashing, that could be post HDD read - try playing with bootchart
[23:19] <Sk1Special> daftykins, mhh..only os on the drive.. i have another drive with win8 installed. but its just taking a lot longer then it did before i upgraded from 12.10 is all.
[23:19] <Sk1Special> daftykins, boot chart? ah the wireless is working. ok ill worry about the start up another day since its not a huge deal. how do i shrink my second monitor by about an inch so it all fits on the screen
[23:19] <daftykins> Sk1Special: probably a potential downside to upgrades over clean installs *shrug* bootchart should show where the delay is
[23:19] <fudus> do you have encrypted swap? that bugged out for me in 13 and i had to change it to unencrypted
[23:20] <daftykins> Sk1Special: how do you mean shrink a monitor?
[23:21] <Sk1Special> daftykins, like, i have a dual monitor setup, and it does this same thing in windows, to where the second monitor..the picture is about an inch to big. maybe half inch. so instead of seeing the whole menu bar at the top..i just see a sliver of grey
[23:21] <daftykins> Sk1Special: is it connected over HDMI?
[23:21] <fudus> change the resolution of the second monitor to native, highest is usually it
[23:21] <Sk1Special> daftykins, yeah. is it just an hdmi issue? i have a vga cable i could use too
[23:21] <daftykins> HDMI tends to do overscan especially on TVs
[23:21] <karoly> Hi!
[23:22] <Sk1Special> fudus, yeah tried all the resolutions. yeah it is supposed to be a tv.
[23:22] <daftykins> Sk1Special: what graphics? i've adjusted overscan in nvidia's settings before, but not sure on others
[23:22] <Sk1Special> daftykins, ah its nvidia
[23:22] <daftykins> it's definitely overscan if it's a TV
[23:22] <daftykins> Sk1Special: cool, run nvidia-settings and look for the overscan value slider
[23:24] <Sk1Special> daftykins, ah.. dont see an overscan bar, dithering, mode, depth, vibrance,sharpening, ..
[23:24] <lauralee> hello boys! I'm using Windows XP which I don't want anymore, I want to move to Ubuntu 13.04 which I already downloaded, the think is I have 12GB of pics songs I want to save, is there a way to create a partition to move those files then see them under ubuntu?
[23:25] <lauralee> if so, how?
[23:25] <lauralee> thanks!
[23:25] <MaximLevitsky> could someone help me with layouts in swing?
[23:26] <MaximLevitsky> sorry, wrong channel
[23:26] <daftykins> MaximLevitsky: a java channel might be somewhat more appropriate
[23:26] <daftykins> XD
[23:26] <daftykins> lauralee: hi, you could install ubuntu alongside XP instead and then simply read the windows drive?
[23:27] <Kardos> hey, so i tried to install a .deb file from sid unstable  - it failed due to dependencies -- ok fine, but now my apt-get is fuckered, it somehow has that install pending and won't go away (apt-get clean, apt-get update, apt-get -f install, all of these didn't fix it)
[23:27] <Kardos> any ideas?
[23:27] <derrik> if you have only one partition and it takes all hd space you have to shrink it with some program, then create another partition for those pics... easiest would be to just backup them to external hd or usb stick
[23:27] <karoly> lauralee: you could use EASUS Partition Manager
[23:28] <lauralee> karoly:  from windows?
[23:28] <karoly> lauralee: Yep
[23:28] <lauralee> awesome!
[23:28] <lauralee> what format should I use to make it shown in windows and linux?
[23:28] <daftykins> Kardos: pastebin apt-get -f install ?
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> lauralee, Make sure xp is fully defragged before resizing, that can be a bricking situation on occasion, I would have a clone of it to start with.
[23:30] <Kardos> daftykins, http://pastebin.com/7kswumCN
[23:31] <derrik> why dont you just buy usb stick.. its like 10 euros
[23:31] <derrik> and backup those pics
[23:32] <Kardos> i want to keep libxml2 version 2.7.8.dfsg-5.1ubuntu4.6 from precise repos, and get rid of 2.9.0+dfsg1-4ubuntu4.3
[23:32] <daftykins> Kardos: 'dpkg purge libxml2 libxml2:i386 libxml2-dev' do anything?
[23:32] <Kardos> dpkg: error: need an action option
[23:32] <histo> !pin | Kardos
[23:32] <derrik> or you could upload those pics into some cloud drive on the internet
[23:32] <Sk1Special> can she not just use whatever form of cloude storage that can be viewed in both? skydrive, google drive, etc.
[23:33] <Sk1Special> lol.
[23:33] <derrik> lol
[23:33] <Sk1Special> and i have no overscan slider. so ima just plug in my vga cable instead
[23:33] <histo> lauralee: ext3 can be seen by both with a driver installed for windows. fs-driver.org  or you could use ntfs or fat32
[23:34] <daftykins> Kardos: maybe dpkg -r <package> (where package = package.deb)
[23:34] <Kardos> dpkg: error: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in
[23:35] <Kardos> on one hand, it serves me right for attempting to do anything outside of the package manager, but on the other hand, what the fuck >:|
[23:35] <wilee-nilee> !language | Kardos
[23:36] <Kardos> i dont see how pinning will help here
[23:36] <Kardos> i can't do any install or deinstall of any package whatsoever
[23:36] <fudus> time for reinstall of ubuntu ;)
[23:36] <Kardos> no ;P
[23:36] <daftykins> Kardos: yeah, whichever name the package calls itself then :)
[23:37] <daftykins> Kardos: in fairness when you said you also took it from another distro - eek.
[23:37] <fudus> it probably blew up libc or something with a different version and that works... poorly
[23:37] <Kardos> but it didn't install!
[23:38] <daftykins> Kardos: does your 'view' still show the history when you tried to install it? showing what it calls itself? in fact just go to install it again and take the name it uses :)
[23:38] <McDeffice> I have an problem for compiling kvirc with svn source : kvirc/src/modules/snd/libkvisnd.cpp:37:18: error fatale: QSound : No such file or directory <-- How install QSound ?
[23:38] <fudus> try build-dep kvirc beforehand?
[23:39] <fudus> that'll fetch the 34343 kde modules it needs
[23:39] <Kardos> http://pastebin.com/EwWuY1Bu
[23:40] <Kardos> so it didn't install
[23:41] <Sk1Special> i just plugged swapped my cables from hdmi to vga and it shut off my pc?
[23:41] <Sk1Special> when i rebooted it brought me straight to the desktop tho..no start up
[23:42] <dante123> anyone have knowledge of dual booting Ubuntu with win 8 on lenovo ideapad y510p
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | dante123
[23:43] <wilee-nilee> dante123, Might be something here on that unit if not start a thread there maybe. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[23:44] <wilee-nilee> I see two threads onthat page on that computer
[23:44] <dante123> did read that, just wondering if anyone had experience doing it with lenovo.....like easier or harder than other manufacturers
[23:44] <dante123> OK will check
[23:45] <hadifarnoud> I followed this guide http://pleasefeedthegeek.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/l2tp-ubuntu-server-setup-for-ios-clients/ for L2TP vpn. it connects but I cannot access any website. I think step 3 is wrong. can anyone help?
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> dante123, In general that dual boot works for some and not others, depends I think, on the knowledge and willingness to research by any single user
[23:47] <usr13> hadifarnoud: Did you substitute your LAN's subnet for "<IP_ADDRESS>"?
[23:48] <hadifarnoud> usr13: is it the private IP I set in vpn settings?
[23:48] <adeonn> hello
[23:48] <Kardos> ahhhh the solution was, force feed it the old .deb from precise repo
[23:48]  * Kardos kicks dpkg for being so stupid
[23:48] <Sk1Special> dual booting scares me everytime i setup it up with win8.. but only because i dont want windows to die, and not have a copy i can use to replace it.
[23:48] <usr13> hadifarnoud: It's what ever subnet you use.  What is the ip of your router?
[23:49] <daftykins> Sk1Special: bought a system and got no windows disc is it?
[23:49] <hadifarnoud> usr13: <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:49] <hadifarnoud> that's my server gateway usr13
[23:49] <Sk1Special> daftykins, lol yeah for my laptop.. i did it on all my home pcs while i was in school because we got free copies.. but didnt get around to the laptop before i dropped so.
[23:50] <McDeffice> I have an problem for compiling kvirc with svn source : kvirc/src/modules/snd/libkvisnd.cpp:37:18: error fatale: QSound : No such file or directory <-- How install QSound ? <fudus> try build-dep kvirc beforehand? <- how build dep ?
[23:50] <daftykins> Sk1Special: d'aww
[23:51] <Sk1Special> lol..uh. i just booted into linux, andthe screen froze, and my keyboards caps lock and scroll lock started flashing together every half second or so?
[23:51] <trism> McDeffice: sudo apt-get build-dep kvirc; is the command
[23:51] <daftykins> Sk1Special: that's one of those kernel panics
[23:52] <zykotick9> trism: while true for the ubuntu package, who knows what the upstream svn needs?
[23:53] <Sk1Special> ah.. bsod for ubuntu. mmk. yay. i guess ubuntu doesnt like it when i switch monitor cables while running.
[23:53] <hadifarnoud> usr13: my ip range for L2TP vpn is  <IP_ADDRESS>-<IP_ADDRESS>   when I connect to it, I get <IP_ADDRESS>   considering that, is step 3 wrong? iptables does not redirect traffic to me.
[23:53] <usr13> hadifarnoud: Well, only you know the your network and what subnets these settings should be in.
[23:53] <McDeffice> thank you trism, another problem: The "stable" distribution target unavailable for the package "kvirc" is ignored
[23:53] <trism> zykotick9: oh indeed, it could require more/less packages, or stuff newer than the repos, but he asked for the command at the end
[23:54] <hadifarnoud> usr13: I followed the guide and changed wherever he said I should use my IP. the only place I had to use my IPs was /etc/ipsec.d/l2tp-psk.conf file in step 2
[23:55] <trism> McDeffice: what are you doing when you get that message?
[23:55] <Sk1Special> daftykins, whatever happened killed my wireless thing.. didnt auto start this time?
[23:56] <usr13> hadifarnoud: Ok, assuming the other settings are correct, if you used <IP_ADDRESS>/24 that will mean that it is going to share it's connection with the 192.168.1.x network.  (<IP_ADDRESS>/24 is the whole subnet from <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>)
[23:56] <daftykins> Sk1Special: very odd. it's quite possible the driver tripped up and caused the kernel panic and perhaps its removed it from loading for safety
[23:56] <usr13> hadifarnoud: Ok then, it should work.
[23:57] <hadifarnoud> usr13: that means I should be able to get internet then. but it doesn't :(
[23:57] <usr13> hadifarnoud: Can you ping the gateway IP?
[23:57] <hadifarnoud> usr13: any way I can see what's happening?
[23:57] <Sk1Special> daftykins, maybe? when i switched my monitor cables from hdmi to vga a bunch of error messages sarted popping up, and it shut down, and when i cut it back on it booted straight to the desktop..so i restarted it and that happened..and it says it still sees the driver/hardware so..idk. restarting again now..
[23:57] <hadifarnoud> wait
[23:59] <trism> McDeffice: kind of sounds like you don't have the source repos, and it also sounds like you're using debian, not ubuntu