[08:49] <chemicalvamp> darryl_ did you see the paste?
[08:49] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: nope
[08:50] <chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13631/
[08:50] <wolferine> i want to mount a folder on this machine, that is on my remote machine
[08:50] <wolferine> thus, sharing it
[08:50] <darryl_> wolferine: what i suggest use samba and smfbs
[08:50] <darryl_> very simple
[08:50] <darryl_> very stright forward
[08:50] <darryl_> and it will do what you want
[08:50] <wolferine> i dont want to use samba
[08:50] <wolferine> i want to use nfs
[08:51] <darryl_> wolferine: in my honest opinion nfs sucks
[08:52] <wolferine> ok, sounds good
[08:52] <darryl_> its old, its not secure .... it sucks
[08:52] <wolferine> why is that exactly?
[08:52] <darryl_> there are so many better approaches
[08:52] <wolferine> why is it not secure?
[08:52] <darryl_> google :D
[08:52] <wolferine> edit /etc/hosts.deny
[08:53] <darryl_> wolferine: why you so set on nfs?
[08:53] <darryl_> there are so many better ways
[08:53] <wolferine> i was asking you why its no good
[08:53] <chemicalvamp> darryl_, when i run iwconfig (on fiesty) no adapters have any Wireless Extensions
[08:53] <wolferine> your changing the topic
[08:53] <darryl_> nah
[08:53] <darryl_> im just trying to show you a bettery way
[08:54] <darryl_> you dont have to take my advise
[08:54] <wolferine> i realize that
[08:54] <wolferine> and your avoiding the question
[08:54] <wolferine> thanks though
[08:55] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: do you have a wifi card installed?
[08:55] <darryl_> wolferine: no prob good luck
[08:55] <chemicalvamp> imWireless Extension on woreless right now (using a desktop cd of edgy)
[08:55] <henrik_> morning
[08:56] <chemicalvamp> -Wireless Extension paste glitch i have : /
[08:56] <darryl_> evening
[08:56] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: i looked at your paste and i dont see any errors?????
[08:58] <chemicalvamp> i pasted cuz i cant find my wireless card on it, somebody asked me what it was, and i thought if i needed to know it could help me find it
[08:58] <Mena>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13628/ some see this and i have a problem in conectting to the net with linux but i can with Xp although i use the same settings for both ...so plz see it if you can help
[08:58] <holastickboy> anyone play world of warcraft on linux?
[08:59] <Mena> some one (
[08:59] <Mena> *
[08:59] <Mena> !cadega
[08:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cadega - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:59] <Mena> !cedega
[08:59] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[08:59] <wolferine> mena, chill man
[08:59] <darryl_> Mena: your not getting an IP from the DHCP
[08:59] <chemicalvamp> !info cedega
[08:59] <ubotu> Package cedega does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[09:00] <Mena> darryl_, and this way
[09:00] <holastickboy> i know, just wanted know about people's experience, like if they got banned
[09:00] <Mena> darryl_, i tried the LiveCd and it conected
[09:00] <_root> cedega is a free (open source)package ?????????/
[09:00] <Mena> way>>Why*
[09:01] <Mena> no i guess its not free
[09:01] <darryl_> Mena: clearly explain your question
[09:01] <Mena> i use the same setting for conectecting to the internet in linux and Xp
[09:02] <darryl_> and by "setting" you mean what exactly????
[09:02] <Mena> darryl_, but on linux i cant conect to the Internet
[09:02] <Mena> Ip And DNS and Gateway
[09:02] <pollyo> Mena: You could have a driver issue though.
[09:02] <darryl_> Mena: was your paste from ifconfig in Linux?
[09:03] <darryl_> pollyo: good point
[09:03] <Mena> darryl_, no from this sudo dhclient
[09:03] <Mena> and route -n
[09:03] <Mena> darryl_, but it was working befor
[09:03] <darryl_> Mena: when your on the linux box and you ifconfig what do you see?
[09:03] <darryl_> also are you set STATIC or DHCP on the Linux box?
[09:04] <darryl_> Mena: becase likely your XP box is DHCP
[09:04] <chemicalvamp> darryl_, all i really need is a package (like wlassistant) and a how-to to copy it onto my hdd, my hdd IS mounted, but i get access denied when i try to copy somthing onto it
[09:04] <Mena> darryl_, DHCP not static
[09:04] <Mena> darryl_, and i tried this ifconfig i guess i get nothing
[09:04] <darryl_> Mena: in this case you are either configure your adapter wrong, or your missing driver
[09:05] <Mena> darryl_, not exist as i guess
[09:05] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: paste me your exact error
[09:05] <_root> sosan is sharmota
[09:05] <Mena> darryl_, i didnt configure my adapter or any thing
[09:05] <darryl_> Mena: you must get something....
[09:05] <Mena> darryl_, befor i had the ability to conect
[09:06] <Mena> darryl_, but when i change the ip i cant
[09:06] <pollyo> Mena: Before in what sense?
[09:06] <darryl_> Mena: is your network card detcted?
[09:06] <Mena> yes
[09:06] <darryl_> Mena: how did you configure your network settings?
[09:07] <Mena> pollyo, befor changing the IP
[09:07] <Mena> darryl_, for kcontrol center
[09:07] <pollyo> Mena: When was it working and what changes did you make?
[09:07] <Mena> from*
[09:07] <darryl_> Mena: I should ask, please describe how your computers connect
[09:07] <Mena> just the ip
[09:07] <darryl_> Mena: are you direct from the modem into the PC?
[09:07] <Mena> with cable
[09:08] <Mena> you mean the router
[09:08] <chemicalvamp> darryl_ it says i dont have write permission
[09:08] <Mena> i am not the router
[09:08] <pollyo> Mena: Are you connected directly to the cable modem or a router?
[09:08] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: do a ls -la on the share and paste me the results
[09:08] <Mena> no from switch
[09:08] <bartene> when a package (like firefox) is frezed how to close it ????????
[09:08] <darryl_> Mena:: if  your direct you need to unplug the router first
[09:08] <chemicalvamp> on the share?
[09:09] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: on whatever is giving you the permission error
[09:09] <Mena> bartene, ctrl+Esc
[09:09] <pollyo> bartene: run xkill and click on the window for firefox.
[09:09] <Mena> darryl_, not direct
[09:09] <darryl_> Mena: paste your newtork settings for the card
[09:10] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: What are you attempting to do?
[09:10] <Mena> darryl_, ? sorry didnt get you
[09:10] <darryl_> pollyo: I think he is tryign to do 2 things
[09:10] <darryl_> Mena: paste the settings you have for your network card
[09:10] <darryl_> so i can see them
[09:11] <Mena> darryl_, etho
[09:11] <chemicalvamp> darryl_, im in konqueror /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp tryed to make a new folder to store what i need and i get Access denied to /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/New Folder
[09:11] <darryl_> chemicavamp: ls -la /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: If that isn't a typo, you are a missing a space there...
[09:12] <Mena> darryl_, you mean the IP and this Things
[09:12] <darryl_> Mena: YES everything!!!
[09:13] <Mena> darryl_, Why i use them on Xp and they works :)
[09:13] <Mena> every thiing
[09:13] <darryl_> Mena: in this case you force me to say use XP
[09:13] <Mena> hmmm :(
[09:13] <darryl_> your not doing what i asked you to
[09:14] <chemicalvamp> darryl_, what will that do?
[09:14] <darryl_> chemicalvamp it will show me your permissions
[09:14] <chemicalvamp> i did sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store (to put the files i need inside of) but i still dont have permission to copy stuff to it
[09:15] <darryl_> im betting you need a simple chmod
[09:15] <darryl_> bleh im going to bed - no one listening tonight :s
[09:15] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: Can't you simply mkdir /home/chemicalvamp/store
[09:15] <soon> Im trying to get a new bluetooth mouse running. When I start System settings / Bluetooth I get : DCOP error when calling services(0)
[09:16] <soon> What does that mean?
[09:16] <chemicalvamp> pollyo look up at the last thing i said
[09:16] <chemicalvamp> darryl_ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13632/
[09:17] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: type whoami
[09:17] <rubert> when i start x (startx) the kde desktop wll start automatic how to make X start non start kde ??????
[09:17] <chemicalvamp> i am ubuntu
[09:17] <darryl_> your username is ubuntu?
[09:17] <chemicalvamp> im running a desktop cd
[09:18] <darryl_> what folder are you getting denied on?
[09:18] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: I do not understand why you are using /mnt/hda1/....
[09:18] <Tm_T> rubert: one ? is enough
[09:18] <chemicalvamp>  /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store
[09:18] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: i dont see that in your paste???
[09:18] <chemicalvamp> pollyo because im running off of a desktop cd
[09:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Hi Hobbsee!
[09:19] <darryl_> oh
[09:19] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: Ok.  Did you mount the directory from anyother machine?
[09:19] <rubert> what you mean one ??
[09:19] <darryl_> store???
[09:19] <manu_> hi
[09:19] <chemicalvamp> my recent fiest install does not have wireless internet configuration.. so i have no internet and no way to install the needed packages
[09:19] <darryl_> in this case sudo chown ubuntu:ubuntu store
[09:19] <Mena> darryl_They are (IP : <IP_ADDRESS> , subnet mask : <IP_ADDRESS> , Defult Gateway: <IP_ADDRESS>Physical Address: 00-15-F2-6B-CB-27
[09:19] <Mena> IP Address: <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:19] <Mena> Subnet Mask: <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:19] <Mena> Default Gateway: <IP_ADDRESS> ,DNS Servers: <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:19] <Mena>  )
[09:19] <chemicalvamp>  /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store is my fiesty install
[09:20] <manu_> yesterday i wanted to shut down my system (kubuntu edgy), but then it stopped with the message "file system is not clean", i had to push the on/off button
[09:20] <manu_> is this bad?
[09:20] <Hobbsee> hey MilhousePunkRock!
[09:20] <manu_> now  i've bootet the system and all seems to be normally
[09:20] <Mirrakor> manu_: well it doesn't make your filesystem cleaner ;) run fsck
[09:20] <manu_> what should i do?
[09:20] <rubert> Tm_T what you mean one ??
[09:20] <Mena> darryl_, SO
[09:21] <darryl_> Mena: was that from ifconfig?
[09:21] <Mena> no
[09:21] <manu_> Mirrakor: what can be the reason? i had 2 times hard freezers and had to put my pc aout via button (because of a webcam)
[09:21] <chemicalvamp> Mena, wow you ip is very similar to mine
[09:21] <manu_> Mirrakor: can i run fsck with my root filesystem, or have i to boot another linux
[09:21] <Mena> heheh ok :)
[09:22] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: They are local network addresses.
[09:22] <rubert> when i start x (startx) the kde desktop wll start automatic how to make X start non start kde ??????
[09:22] <Mena> darryl_, So
[09:23] <chemicalvamp> oh hehe, i was gonna say.. mines acomplete match, except one key is +6
[09:23] <Mirrakor> manu_: that could be the reason - The thing is Linux doesn't write everything immediatly, it uses a harddisk cache, where it can buffers write proccesses and write them down, when it has the time and capacety. When you have a hard freeze not everything is writen to hdd, which makes it "unclean"
[09:23] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: How did you mount /mnt/hda1/... ?
[09:23] <Mirrakor> manu_: the disks should be unmounted when you run fsck
[09:23] <Mirrakor> so, gotta go now (work :( ) cu later
[09:23] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: Could it be you mounted read onliny?
[09:23] <chemicalvamp> sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1
[09:23] <pollyo> only.
[09:23] <manu_> Mirrakor: one minute plz
[09:23] <Tm_T> rubert: I mean don't do '?????'
[09:23] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: the question was how did you MOUNT
[09:23] <chemicalvamp> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[09:24] <darryl_> ok thats better
[09:24] <rubert> Tm_T i have gnome and kde !!!!
[09:24] <chemicalvamp> yeah its  2 part thing.. needed to do both
[09:24] <manu_> Mirrakor: so a unclean system is bad? because of the unwritten things? what could have been lost?
[09:24] <darryl_> chemicalvamp and your gettin access denied?
[09:24] <Mena> darryl_, i tried the ifconfig  on terminal but ist unkwon command
[09:24] <Mena> its*
[09:24] <Tm_T> rubert: yes, but don't write multiple question marks
[09:25] <Tm_T> rubert: one is enough :)
[09:25] <darryl_> Mena: you need to specify the full path
[09:25] <rubert> Tm_T ok
[09:25] <Tm_T> rubert: thanks :)
[09:25] <darryl_> Mena: /sbin/ifconfig
[09:25] <chemicalvamp> access denied, could not write to /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store/text file
[09:25] <Mena> okay then
[09:26] <manu_> so a unclean system is bad? because of the unwritten things? what could have been lost?
[09:26] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: i need to see the permissions for the mount
[09:26] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: Would it make a difference if you did sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hda1 /mnt/dha1 ext3 defaults 0 0
[09:26] <Mena> ok i will try BRB
[09:26] <pollyo> wait... typo
[09:26] <darryl_> pollyo: his issue is permissions
[09:26] <chemicalvamp> pollyo lol i dont know... would it? (im not being sarcastic eiter)
[09:26] <darryl_> pollyo: if he had error mounting it would not give acccess denied
[09:27] <darryl_> his issue is permissions
[09:27] <chemicalvamp> it is currently mounted
[09:27] <darryl_> yes thats my point
[09:27] <pollyo> darryl_: Would it say if he only have read access?
[09:27] <darryl_> your issue is permissions
[09:27] <pollyo> darryl_: I thought it was a permssion problem read only...
[09:27] <darryl_> ppollyo: yea his mount is fine
[09:27] <pollyo> darryl_:Ok
[09:27] <chemicalvamp> what if i did a sudo move
[09:27] <darryl_> he just has permssion issue now
[09:27] <rubert> Tm_T you joke and tell me to do stupid things sure you dont know how to do this
[09:28] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: dont get off topic
[09:28] <darryl_> you need to correct your permssions
[09:28] <chemicalvamp> it may be a shortcut, but if you got an idea.. im down
[09:28] <pollyo> darryl_: Even with the sudo he has permissions?  If it was mounted read only sudo still would not allow him to create a directory....
[09:28] <darryl_> im still waiting to see the permissions on your mount
[09:29] <chemicalvamp> oh.. how do i get that for you?
[09:29] <darryl_> pollyo: im still wiating for his ls -la
[09:29] <chemicalvamp> was this it? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13632/ i sent this before
[09:30] <darryl_> yep and your question was on the "store" folder right?
[09:30] <chemicalvamp> yes i had to do sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store to get that
[09:30] <chemicalvamp> made *
[09:31] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: did you do the chown command I told you to??????
[09:31] <chemicalvamp> no i must have missed it
[09:31] <darryl_> well....
[09:31] <darryl_> you said your whoami is ubuntu correct?
[09:31] <chemicalvamp> yes
[09:31] <darryl_> so...........
[09:32] <darryl_> sudo chown ubuntu:ubuntu store
[09:33] <chemicalvamp> ok i successfully made a text doc in store, but now will i be able to modifie /mnt/hda1/home/chemicalvamp/store when i log into fiesty?
[09:33] <chemicalvamp> or even read only
[09:34] <pollyo> How does that paste website work?
[09:35] <pollyo> nevermind.  I see.
[09:35] <darryl_> chemicalvamp: so did it work what i told you?
[09:35] <nonuda_> in my xubuntu system, in desktop setting, theres no others resolution setting i can choose, i see only "default", why? and i believe the default resolution is 480x640, i want to change it into 800x600
[09:36] <chemicalvamp> darryl_ yes i can add files, but will i be able to use this folder when i run fiesty (username=chemicalvamp)
[09:37] <darryl_> one step at a time
[09:37] <pollyo> nonuda_: I noticed that my monitor was not recognized correctly and I was unable to select higher res screens.
[09:37] <chemicalvamp> ok then
[09:37] <darryl_> before you could make NO files right???????????
[09:37] <chemicalvamp> yes sir
[09:37] <darryl_> and now you can
[09:37] <pollyo> nonuda_: You might want to check your video card and monitor settings.
[09:37] <chemicalvamp> yes
[09:37] <darryl_> so the lesson here is PERMSISSON PERMSSIONS PERMISSIONS
[09:37] <darryl_> in otherwords.........
[09:37] <darryl_> on your other installl......
[09:38] <darryl_> if your not ubuntu:ubuntu
[09:38] <darryl_> you will need to chmod to the user that you are to access the files
[09:38] <darryl_> or
[09:38] <darryl_> you need to make a ubuntu user on the other system
[09:38] <darryl_> make sense???
[09:39] <chemicalvamp> in ubuntu:ubuntu (one is the user and the other is the computer correct?)
[09:39] <darryl_> no
[09:39] <darryl_> user:group
[09:39] <Mena> darryl_, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13635/
[09:39] <chemicalvamp> k
[09:39] <Mena> Hope this helps
[09:39] <darryl_> so you good now?
[09:40] <chemicalvamp> now i need a good wireless config package (wlassistant would work)
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> how can I check if I am running Java SDK
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> i may not be
[09:40] <darryl_> ok i solved one problem thats all you get from me for tonight
[09:41] <Mena> darryl_, So
[09:41] <darryl_> Mena: So what????????????
[09:42] <Mena> darryl_, I give the pastebin what is wrong : :|
[09:42] <nonuda_> ok, i believe that would be the problem, but in xubuntu i cant find the setting for my vga and monitor
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> got it nvm
[09:42] <Mena> heee??
[09:42] <pollyo> nonuda_: Click K and then System Settings
[09:43] <darryl_> Mena: i dont know what your question is
[09:43] <Mena> i was user who was here befor
[09:43] <Mena> the user*
[09:43] <cptcarrot> hello
[09:43] <Mena> sence a few minutes
[09:43] <Mena> since*
[09:43] <pollyo> nonuda_: Then look at Computer Administration and click Monitor and Display
[09:43] <darryl_> Mena: im doing about 30 things right now - be more specific
[09:44] <Mena> cant conect to Internet with linux
[09:44] <darryl_> i see you pasted some network settings
[09:44] <darryl_> oh yea i remembe ryou now
[09:44] <pollyo> nonuda_: Then click hardware tab.
[09:44] <darryl_> your not getting an IP right?
[09:44] <cptcarrot> anyone here use pidentd?
[09:44] <Mena> darryl_, Thanks GOD
[09:44] <Mena> yes
[09:45] <Mena> and this why ...then you told to check ifconfig
[09:45] <Mena> me*(
[09:45] <darryl_> can you check your /etc/resolve.conf
[09:45] <darryl_> tell me what you see in there
[09:45] <Mena> ehh i will reboot agian
[09:45] <pollyo> darryl_: How long have you been using linux?
[09:45] <darryl_> why?
[09:45] <Mena> i am onXp
[09:45] <darryl_> you dont need to reboot
[09:45] <darryl_> oh
[09:45] <cptcarrot> i am having trouble getting pidentd working - previously under mandriva and now under kubuntu
[09:45] <darryl_> pollyo: not long enuf hehehe
[09:46] <pollyo> Mena: Was the internet working for you just now in XP?
[09:46] <pollyo> Did Mena already leave?
[09:46] <darryl_> pollyo: my guess is thats where he was talking to us from
[09:46] <Mena> no all the times
[09:46] <nonuda_> thee no system setting, i'm using xubuntu, its xfce desktop environment, seem looks loke gnome
[09:46] <pollyo> Good point...
[09:46] <darryl_> pollyo: my bet is his resolv.conf
[09:46] <Mena> yes o logged out then i came agian and here i am
[09:46] <Mena> i*
[09:47] <pollyo> But if Mena is in Ubuntu then how will he chat with us without a network?
[09:47] <darryl_> he is not pointed to his gateway
[09:47] <Mena> heeeeee i m XP
[09:47] <chemicalvamp> *same problem i have!
[09:47] <darryl_> BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[09:47] <darryl_> chemicalvamp:?????????????????? what??????????
[09:48] <darryl_> i just helped you fix your issue
[09:48] <Mena> darryl_, ok so you need the resolve.cnofig to fix the Gateway
[09:48] <Mena> Yes
[09:48] <Mena> ?
[09:48] <MilhousePunkRock> How come I don't have any sound, the modules are loaded, kmixer is working and master is not muted in alsaconfig?
[09:48] <darryl_> Mena: show me what you ahve in there
[09:48] <Mena> Okay BRB i will ogg out now :)
[09:48] <Mena> logg*
[09:48] <chemicalvamp> darryl_, the reason i have been doing all this permissions stuff is so i cant get the packages i need to set up my wireless connection to put in my dhcp, dns, and gateway
[09:48] <Mena> what ever
[09:49] <darryl_> chemcialvamp: ok so you have the access now
[09:49] <darryl_> so google the rest??????????
[09:51] <cptcarrot> can anyone assist me in getting identd working?
[09:52] <darryl_> if Mena dont get back soon im out for th enight
[09:52] <darryl_> late here
[09:52] <darryl_> 4:00am
[09:52] <cptcarrot> ugh great, adept won't even run now
[09:53] <pollyo> darryl_: Yes it is late...
[09:53] <pollyo> darry_: Or should we be saying early?
[09:53] <darryl_> pollyo: same timezone?
[09:53] <pollyo> darryl_: Yes
[09:53] <darryl_> yea that too
[09:54] <David_> Hi, I have libmad0 installed but k3b doesn't work to decode mp3s. I have 7.04beta.
[09:54] <darryl_> some times i get over generous and stay late to help on various channels where i can
[09:54] <pollyo> darryl_: I see you are very helpful.
[09:54] <pollyo> darryl_: I'm 3 weeks into Linux.
[09:54] <darryl_> i been here asking questions too
[09:54] <darryl_> i like this community
[09:55] <pollyo> darryl_: It is very friendly.
[09:55] <darryl_> thats why I like it
[09:55] <MilhousePunkRock> IMHO the community has been much better before edgy...
[09:55] <darryl_> its also the reason this community does not need MicroCRAP :)
[09:55] <chemicalvamp> anybody have a favorite wireless utility?
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: You would not want to hear that, but I like Feisty's network manager a lot
[09:56] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: How have things changed?
[09:56] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Besides that: cli
[09:56] <darryl_> MillhousePunkRock: your nick is way too long :p
[09:57] <pollyo> darryl_: Are you typing out the entire name?
[09:57] <darryl_> and yes im with pollyo: what changed so much?
[09:57] <darryl_> polllyo: yea im anit mouse
[09:57] <neonlinux> hey all
[09:57] <darryl_> anti
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: To me it seems there are more questions than answers here by now. And too many people just ask about beryl. maybe that scared away the regulars
[09:57] <darryl_> pollyo: how you doing it?
[09:57] <MilhousePunkRock> darryl_: Ever heard of tab completion?
[09:57] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock ide love to use network manager but it doesnt wanna work
[09:57] <pollyo> darryl_: I'm spoiled with typing tab to autocomplete the name.  Works in Gaim...
[09:57] <darryl_> hahahah
[09:58] <darryl_> tab is too far for my finger LOL
[09:58] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: If things are wrong under the the hood, it wont work, yes...
[09:58] <neonlinux> does anyone know when feisty will be released?? is there a date?
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> neonlinux: April 19th most likely
[09:58] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: It does seem like alot of people are interested in Berly recently.
[09:58] <darryl_> MilhousePunkRock: that just means the community is growing
[09:58] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe few days off though
[09:58] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock if the problem is "under the hood" why did i never have any problems with edgy?
[09:59] <darryl_> MilhousePunkRock: also - it depends what time of day / night the questions are being asked
[09:59] <darryl_> MilhousePunkRock: also depens if people are in the mood to answer the questions
[09:59] <neonlinux> Admiral_Chicago: cool.. thanks.. ill have the holidays to install it :) ... i hope in the release the problem im having will be fixed
[09:59] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Wonder if it has anything to do with all the beryl videos on YouTube.
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: No offense, since this may includes you
[09:59] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock:  No offense taken.
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Damn, backspace and return are too close here...
[09:59] <MilhousePunkRock> I wasnt done typing
[10:00] <darryl_> even still
[10:00] <darryl_> worse case
[10:00] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: No offense, since this may include you as well, but I really dislike people that "try" linux because they want to check out beryl...
[10:00] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I am interested in Beryl... Though it was after I got just about everything I was really interested in working.
[10:00] <Admiral_Chicago> neonlinux: i hope so too. gotta run now
[10:00] <darryl_> the support here is so much better than paid M$ support
[10:00] <ffffu> are there any viruses that will infect linux?
[10:00] <neonlinux> Admiral_Chicago: ok.. thanks.. bye
[10:01] <Admiral_Chicago> ffffu: no
[10:01] <darryl_> ffffu: yes TONSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> ffffu: AFAIK, no
[10:01] <darryl_> too many to imagine :p :p :p
[10:01] <darryl_> break out the Norton :P
[10:01] <ffffu> what about trojan scripts etc?
[10:01] <pollyo> ffffu: Don't run them as root.
[10:01] <MilhousePunkRock> The only reason that AV programs for Linux exist is that Linux servers are often used in Windows networks...
[10:01] <darryl_> ffffu: not really bud
[10:02] <neonlinux> ffffu: only if you want them too... im not sure wine is compatible with virus's though... has anyone ever tried using wine on a virus?
[10:02] <ffffu> ok cool.. so i'm on kuunbtu now..no need virus scanner?
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> neonlinux: lol, nice thought.. it would only damage wine though, i guess
[10:02] <ffffu> haha
[10:02] <MilhousePunkRock> ffffu: no
[10:02] <darryl_> ffffu: no correct
[10:02] <darryl_> you dont need
[10:02] <pollyo> I read an article on a virus for linux.
[10:02] <darryl_> unless you allow a .sh to rm -rf * heheheheh
[10:03] <pollyo> Though they were discussing the debate over what a virus really was.
[10:03] <ffffu> one question..are there viruses or harmful scripts written to harm linux?
[10:03] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: That was probably a proof of concept...
[10:03] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Yes.
[10:03] <darryl_> ffffu: it was  prolly written my Microsoft :p
[10:03] <neonlinux> MilhousePunkRock: wine wont truly be a complete windows api implementation until it can run all windows features lol
[10:03] <MilhousePunkRock> ffffu: They would hardly work if you do the right thing and keep root usage to the absolute minimum
[10:04] <chemicalvamp> does anybody know of any other wireless apps other then wlassistant / networkmanager
[10:04] <darryl_> neonlinux: yea and now with vista crap out it will be even longer before "full" API implemntation
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> neonlinux: Waiting for bluescreens or what "features" do you refer to?
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: wifi radar
[10:04] <ffffu> so i have no problems surfing any websites, no fear of getting spyware or adware or whatever?
[10:04] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: You never told me about your encryption though, or the chipset
[10:05] <darryl_> ffffu: correct to some extent
[10:05] <darryl_> dont make that your rule for life
[10:05] <neonlinux> MilhousePunkRock: i was thinking that aside from bsod's those nice popups that lag my net connection are sooo helpful in bringing me relevent advertising information...
[10:05] <darryl_> but your safer than on M$ crap
[10:05] <pollyo> ffffu: You may notice some difficulties with websites.
[10:05] <cypher1> how do i enable remote X tcp connections in KDE (Kubuntu)
[10:05] <ffffu> ok just want to know if i'm safe from all harm
[10:05] <ffffu> hehe
[10:05] <darryl_> ffffu: your NOT
[10:06] <darryl_> yoru as secure as you make yoruself
[10:06] <pollyo> ffffu: From ALL harm?
[10:06] <sh4rk0> bonjour
[10:06] <darryl_> dont get over confident
[10:06] <sh4rk0> y a t il des franais here ??
[10:06] <darryl_> sh4rk0: comon sava???????????
[10:06] <sh4rk0> hello
[10:06] <neonlinux> ffffu: if you ever see "sudo rm -f /" anywhere... dont run it
[10:06] <sh4rk0> salut darryl
[10:06] <pollyo> I need protection from myself.  I wiped out a partition when I first went to make a dual boot system. <grin>
[10:06] <sh4rk0> tres bien merci et toi ?
[10:06] <darryl_> bien merci
[10:06] <ffffu> i saw somebody logging in by ssh (i checked the auth.log) in as guest..and i checked the .bashhistory.. he's running some "fuck" something
[10:07] <ffffu> i don't know what's he doing..after that i delete the guest account
[10:07] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock i beive i have a broadcom chipset
[10:07] <darryl_> ffffu: LOL LOL
[10:07] <sh4rk0> dit moi tu connais bien ce system d exploitation ? Je suis un news et je ne sais comment installer wine
[10:07] <Tm_T> !fr | sh4rk0
[10:07] <ubotu> sh4rk0: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:07] <darryl_> sh4rk0: use vmware :)
[10:08] <sh4rk0> kubuntu
[10:08] <chemicalvamp> vmware is sick looking
[10:08] <Tm_T> sh4rk0: english here thanks
[10:08] <darryl_> vmware is nice
[10:08] <chemicalvamp> im going to get it after i sort this stuff out
[10:08] <sh4rk0> ok, thanks
[10:08] <pollyo> Does vmware run faster then kvm at this point?
[10:09] <darryl_> pollyo: i use it remote
[10:09] <darryl_> so  in otherwords I remote dekstop into it
[10:09] <darryl_> and its fast
[10:09] <darryl_> really fast
[10:10] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Were you smart enough to back up your /etc/network/interfaces before the upgrade?
[10:10] <pollyo> I was thinking about setting up a VM on my other machine when I put kubuntu on it.  I was looking at how you can run windows while you have kubuntu running.
[10:10] <chemicalvamp> i could get a working one right now
[10:10] <darryl_> MilhousePunkRock: thats just evil :p
[10:10] <darryl_> pollyo: i have that running right now just for Outlook
[10:11] <ffffu> !virus
[10:11] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[10:11] <pollyo> darryl_: Are you using VMware or KVM?
[10:11] <darryl_> pollyo: vmware
[10:11] <darryl_> works very well
[10:12] <darryl_> and i remote the winBLOWS install
[10:12] <neonlinux> anyone had experience with ati and feisty?
[10:12] <pollyo> darryl_: I have to find out if kvm allows windows to see the hardware.
[10:12] <darryl_> and only for Outlook
[10:12] <darryl_> neonlinux: yes i did that earlier tonight
[10:12] <pollyo> darryl_: I want to find out if I will be able to connect external hardware that linux can not recognize and use it with windows running through virtualization.
[10:12] <darryl_> neonlinux: whats your issue?
[10:13] <darryl_> pollyo: so far i been successful with that
[10:13] <pollyo> darryl_: Great
[10:13] <Mena> darryl_,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13641/
[10:13] <darryl_> Mena: took you long enough :p
[10:13] <pollyo> Dell is saying that it will sell desktops with linux on them.
[10:13] <Mena> darryl_,  Sorry
[10:13] <Mena> :)
[10:13] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: What kind of hardware are you talking about?
[10:14] <sh4rk0> what has is useful wmware ?
[10:14] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I have a printer that prints great under windows but not so good from linux.
[10:14] <neonlinux> darryl: well... im running the alpha atm... herd 5.. it installs fine (has issues with wvdial.. but im not worried about that atm) and i can use it... but when i install the beta it hangs in initialising the gui
[10:14] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: That is the main thing that comes to mind.
[10:14] <Mena> darryl_, ohh i added the GateWay as DNs
[10:14] <sh4rk0> it is one server
[10:14] <Mena> darryl_, try to make it work
[10:14] <sh4rk0> ?
[10:14] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I also want to be able to connect something that might come out that has no support for linux at first.
[10:15] <Mena> darryl_, but befor with out the Gate IP it wasnt working
[10:15] <darryl_> Mena: ofcourse not
[10:15] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: Why not just dual boot for that rare case?
[10:15] <Mena> darryl_, ok
[10:16] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I also have one or two applicatoins that I still use that are under windows.
[10:16] <Mena> darryl_, so is there soemthing wrong bec .... is there any file you want to open
[10:16] <darryl_> Mena: do this
[10:16] <darryl_> search local
[10:16] <darryl_> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:16] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: I just want the option of not having to reboot unless I really need to do alot under windows.
[10:16] <darryl_> Mena: i assume your DNS is set by the gateway
[10:16] <Mena> darryl_, i guess i remove it
[10:16] <chemicalvamp> darryl_, im gonna go try this out, hopefully it works.. thanks alot for helping
[10:17] <Mena> darryl_, its a bout more 10 hours tho
[10:17] <Mena> and i am tring
[10:17] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: If windows wasn't such a pain I would have the VM boot from the windows partition.  I am still reading to find out if it is possible to do that or not.
[10:17] <Mena> :)
[10:17] <darryl_> most times when you cant connect your resolve.conf is to blame
[10:17] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Everything I have read said windows will see that as hardware changes and give you all types of difficulties.
[10:17] <Mena> darryl_, it wasnt withe just reolv.conf
[10:18] <darryl_> Mena: huh?
[10:18] <Mena> i couldnt find with resolve.conf
[10:18] <Mena> resolv.conf*
[10:18] <Mena> never mind
[10:18] <Mena> darryl_, after the command what to do
[10:19] <Mena> darryl_, or you must first know the result
[10:19] <darryl_> Mena: i dont know what your asking agin
[10:19] <darryl_> again
[10:19] <darryl_> and i need to go to bed so make your question VERY clear
[10:20] <Mena> darryl_, he after doing this search local ameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:20] <Mena> after*
[10:20] <ffffu> !bliss
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bliss - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <Mena> darryl_, Never mod ehhh i will try the command and give the result and i am on Xp
[10:21] <Mena> darryl_, mind*
[10:21] <MilhousePunkRock> ffffu: Ignorance is bliss, knowledge is power... You choose...
[10:21] <darryl_> Mena: i give you one more try
[10:21] <Mena> darryl_, hee ??
[10:21] <darryl_> Mena: tell me CLEARLY what your issue is cuz i need to go to bed
[10:22] <Mena> darryl_, the problem with conecting on linux
[10:22] <darryl_> Mena: ask me a SPECIFIC CLEAR question or im out for the night
[10:22] <Mena> ohhh GOD
[10:22] <darryl_> Mena: i know that already
[10:22] <Mena> ok
[10:23] <ffffu> i choose power
[10:23] <Mena> you give this after i give the ersult from /etc/resolve.conf    search local nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:23] <Mena> result*
[10:23] <darryl_> I need a beer or a pillow
[10:23] <darryl_> Mena: yes thats what I have
[10:24] <Black_Cat> darryl: why beer, not coffee? :)
[10:24] <ffffu> do mcafee write viruses?
[10:24] <darryl_> Back_Cat: coffe is for thos that have slept already
[10:24] <darryl_> errr
[10:24] <darryl_> Black_Cat:
[10:24] <darryl_> sorry bout that
[10:24] <Mena> darryl_, brb plz wait tell this plz ok or if you cant never mind :)
[10:25] <pollyo> Black_Cat: The guy wants to go to bed not stay up all night/day..
[10:25] <Black_Cat> darryl: about what? :))
[10:25] <Mena> tell me now if you cant stay with this pro
[10:25] <darryl_> Mena: you need to reboot again??????
[10:25] <Mena> yeeeeees
[10:25] <MilhousePunkRock> darryl_: What IRC client do you use?
[10:25] <darryl_> Black_Cat:  bout the typo on your name
[10:25] <Mena> So
[10:25] <darryl_> MilhousePunkRock: depends on the day hehe
[10:25] <Black_Cat> pollyo: why drinking beer than... it will lead to toilet not to bed :)
[10:25] <MilhousePunkRock> right now
[10:26] <pollyo> Mena: They have an application that lets you see your linux files from windows.
[10:26] <Black_Cat> darryl: nevermind, funny even :)
[10:26] <Mena> okay
[10:26] <darryl_> Black_Cat: LOL
[10:26] <pollyo> mena: You will not have to keep rebooting to look at the config files.
[10:26] <Mena> i have the apps and i mounted it
[10:26] <Mena> okay
[10:26] <Mena> give me the name
[10:26] <Mena> but he is telling me to search local
[10:26] <darryl_> Mena: I would love to help you out bud - but your consant need to reboot is too much
[10:27] <darryl_> its 4:30 am for me here
[10:27] <darryl_> I help you as much as i can
[10:27] <pollyo> Mena: What version of kubuntu are you working with?
[10:27] <darryl_> but your setup makes it very difficult
[10:27] <Mena> and its 10:28 here and i didnt sleep since 8:0 pm
[10:27] <darryl_> pollyo: your on more beer than me :p
[10:27] <Mena> fiesty
[10:27] <pollyo> darryl_: I'm drinking warm milk right now. <grin>
[10:28] <Mena> there is no help on fiesty channel
[10:28] <darryl_> ekkkkkkkkkk
[10:28] <pollyo> darrl_: If this doesn't make me tired I'm going to have to take a sleeping pill.
[10:28] <darryl_> Mena: becase its ubuntu
[10:28] <darryl_> pollyo: im gonna need a wakeup pill soon hahaha
[10:28] <pollyo> lol
[10:28] <Mena> no they offer there also help for kubuntu but thre is no help
[10:28] <MilhousePunkRock> darryl_: No... Besides the desktop enviroment all *untus are the same
[10:28] <Mena> in any way
[10:29] <darryl_> MilhousePunkRock: yep yep
[10:29] <pollyo> Mena: Yes you have to go to #ubuntu+1 for feisty help
[10:29] <Mena> no help there ehhh :(
[10:29] <Mena> In any way Never mind derrrtl_
[10:29] <pollyo> Mena: Did you say at one point your network connection was working under feisty?
[10:29] <Mena> SOrry derryl_
[10:29] <Mena> its was working
[10:30] <darryl_> Mena: try again :P
[10:30] <Mena> darryl_
[10:30] <Mena> Sorry :)
[10:30] <darryl_> there you go!
[10:30] <pollyo> Mena: It was working and did you do any type of update to feisty?
[10:30] <Black_Cat> 3rd time is a charm ;)
[10:30] <darryl_> hahaha
[10:30] <Mena> no
[10:30] <darryl_> and i didnt even get my own name
[10:30] <darryl_> there is another darrly here
[10:30] <darryl_> go figure
[10:30] <Mena> i just chnged the ip
[10:31] <darryl_> LOL cant even spell my own name
[10:31] <pollyo> Mena: Your router assigned you a different IP address for your local network?
[10:31] <Mena> i guess i made an update but after this i aksed the router if the Conection is working he told me not so
[10:31] <Black_Cat> darryl: go to sleep... go to sleep... ;)
[10:31] <Mena> yes
[10:31] <darryl_> hahaha
[10:31] <darryl_> good plan
[10:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Are you using DHCP or static IP?
[10:31] <darryl_> you guys been a blast
[10:31] <Mena> DHCP
[10:32] <darryl_> take care folks hope to see you all again soon!!!!
[10:32] <pollyo> darryl_: Go get some rest...
[10:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Sleep well darryl_
[10:32] <Mena> i really thanks you darryl_ For helpping me :)
[10:32] <darryl_> thanks :) :)
[10:32] <pollyo> darryl: I'm out of here in 15 mins as well.
[10:32] <darryl_> Mena: your welcome bud - good luck
[10:32] <darryl_> cheers!!! im out folks!
[10:32] <Mena> To you too
[10:33] <pollyo> Mena: When you are at your desktop in KDE does that little icon sit there and turn?
[10:33] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: So basically all you need to do in Feisty is click on the network manager icon and connect...
[10:33] <Mena> yes
[10:33] <pollyo> Mena: If you click on it then you can have it re-establish your IP information.
[10:33] <pollyo> Mena: I have to do that from time to time.
[10:33] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, i already enabled the conection
[10:34] <Mena> pollyo, hey i did many times  ;)
[10:34] <pollyo> Mena: It cycled through the information about getting IP address and what not?
[10:35] <Mena> pollyo, its checking the ip and the says device actvated
[10:35] <Black_Cat> is it any way to prevent Korganizer from launching in tray when i start Kontact?
[10:37] <pollyo> Mena: When I right click it I can then click on wireless network and watch it go out and get an ipaddress... It cylces through a few steps.
[10:37] <pollyo> Mena: I noticed that it doesn't alway automatically work when I boot up.
[10:38] <pollyo> Mena: Is it much different for a wired connection?
[10:38] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: IIRC that can be set in the options though
[10:38] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Go and check the options if they are set for DHCP
[10:39] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, yes its
[10:40] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, i configure the ip my self
[10:40] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, i am sure
[10:40] <Mena> its not static
[10:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: If you do that, it is NOT DHCP
[10:40] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, he?
[10:40] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, ok and this called
[10:40] <MilhousePunkRock> DHCP means that you get an IP assigned from your router
[10:41] <Mena> Sorry i realy didnt sleep since yester day
[10:41] <chemicalvamp> FAILED.. booo
[10:41] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, ok
[10:41] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, now what is the problem
[10:41] <Mena> pollyo, no i dont think so
[10:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Make up your mind: DHCP or configuring the IP yourself
[10:42] <ubuntu> !fr
[10:42] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:42] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, First the router gives the ip
[10:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: If you are on a DHCP network, setting an IP yourself won't work
[10:42] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, then i changed it thats all
[10:42] <Black_Cat> !lamp
[10:42] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[10:42] <Mena> So
[10:42] <Mena> its DHCP right
[10:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: You cannot change the IP yourself on a DCHP network
[10:43] <Mena> in any way the main thing router give me an ip then i change mine according to it
[10:43] <Mena> ok
[10:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Of course you can, client-sided, but that disconnects you. Look where you are now. Turn DHCP back on and you will be online again
[10:43] <chemicalvamp> darryl_ the only package i installed that worked (no missing dependancies) was wlassistant, when i started it.. it never poped up. when i ran it with command line it said "no useable network devices"
[10:43] <luke> does anyone know of a channel for Baghira?
[10:44] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, you mean to trun it from manual
[10:44] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, to auto
[10:44] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, or what
[10:44] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, Sorry :(
[10:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Yes
[10:44] <Mena> if i tried
[10:44] <Mena> sorry
[10:44] <Mena> i tried befor
[10:45] <Mena> nothing happened
[10:45] <chemicalvamp> sudo ifconfig wlan0 up (failed it could not detect my card)
[10:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: All the other info about gateway and DNS and such is provided by DHCP
[10:45] <pollyo> Mena: Configure Device TCP/IP Auto  DHCP and Activate when computer starts.
[10:45] <Mena> pollyo, its makrked
[10:45] <Mena> marked*
[10:45] <pollyo> Mena: Is this one computer?
[10:45] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, yes
[10:46] <pollyo> Mena: Or do you have two machines there?
[10:46] <Mena> pollyo, no one
[10:46] <MilhousePunkRock> how are you here then?
[10:46] <Mena> pollyo, but i remeber my setting !
[10:46] <Mena> on Xp
[10:46] <Mena> i hace To OS
[10:46] <Mena> to>>>2 :)
[10:46] <Mena> So
[10:46] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, can you make any sense of this?
[10:46] <Mena> i was telling you all befor i am on Xp
[10:47] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Did you check if the card maybe got renamed?
[10:47] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: Does your computer also have a wired port?
[10:47] <chemicalvamp> pollyo be more specific
[10:47] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock it isnt beng shown in ifconfig at all
[10:47] <Mena> and i have already linux
[10:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Go to network enviroment and all connections and tell me what you see in the lower right of that window when you hover over your ethernet card
[10:47] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: A standard network card (not wifi)
[10:48] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo, chemicalvamp: What we call "ethernet" card... ;-)
[10:48] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Thank you.
[10:48] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, establisid
[10:48] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, as i remeber
[10:49] <Mena> from last time
[10:49] <chemicalvamp> pollyo you think my wlan0 is being turned into eth0?
[10:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: In the lower left, sorry
[10:49] <Mena> and evert time
[10:49] <Mena> ok
[10:49] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: No
[10:49] <Mena> every*
[10:49] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock then what could it be?
[10:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: There must be something about the IP.
[10:49] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, and i also installed KNemo
[10:49] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: I was thinking that if you are in need of additional packages you could connect using your eth0 for now until you get the packages you need to get the other card working.
[10:49] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, which show me much inf
[10:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: I am referring to Windows right now
[10:50] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock,  i dont know but i tried the live CD with same setting and its working
[10:50] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: I did that on another computer my wireless card would not work so I connected with the wired eth0.
[10:50] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: pollyo has a good point there
[10:50] <Mena> so maybe its from the Fiesty its self
[10:51] <chemicalvamp> pollyo yeah i already thought of that, i just thought i could get them here
[10:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: If you messed with the settings, it sure won't work. Boot back into Feisty and turn DHCP back on!
[10:51] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: I've been on for a few hours tonight and it looks like it has turned into a bigger project for you.
[10:52] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: I would suggest at this point going with the eth0 for now if you have the connections close.
[10:52] <chemicalvamp> pollyo if you only knew... lol
[10:52] <pollyo> chemicalvamp: Just an idea. <grin>
[10:52] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, this is what i did on the LiveCd i just turn it to manual and i add the inf like ip Gateway Dns, .....etc and then the conection worked ...ok           those are the saem i did on fiesty
[10:52] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: If you can wire up your laptop, do so. Maybe something did not get installed properly... You could as well chroot into Feisty from a Live CD
[10:52] <pollyo> Mena: Do you have a live CD"?
[10:52] <Mena> YEs
[10:52] <pollyo> Mena: Boot with your Live CD and see if you can get here.
[10:53] <chemicalvamp> pollyo but i dont lol its campus internet
[10:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: YOU DO NOT NEED TO ENTER ANYTHING THERE WHEN YOU USE DHCP!!!!!!!
[10:53] <pollyo> Mena: We can see if it is Feisty or your setup.
[10:53] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, unless your stealin it right?
[10:53] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: So there for sure is some kind of encryption or authentification
[10:54] <Mena> pollyo, so if used the LiveCd i will not nedd to restart to use Fiesty bec the one i have its kubuntu
[10:54] <Mena> i mean no more restarts
[10:54] <Mena> !!!!!
[10:54] <Mena> edgy
[10:54] <Mena> edgy*
[10:54] <pollyo> Mena: The liveCD what version is that?
[10:54] <Mena> edgy
[10:54] <pollyo> Oh... Your live CD is edgy,,
[10:55] <pollyo> You updated to feisty and it stopped?
[10:55] <chemicalvamp> Mena are you trying to get your wireless to work on edgy?
[10:55] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, ok i will try your point again and we will see
[10:55] <Mena> no fiesty
[10:55] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: No, he is trying a wired network
[10:55] <chemicalvamp> oh
[10:55] <Mena> BRB and here i am leaving the room
[10:55] <Mena> ok
[10:55] <pollyo> Mena: Are you saying that you initially installed the LiveCD of Edgy and then after you upgraded to Feisty it stopped working?
[10:56] <Mena> pollyo, no
[10:56] <Mena> pollyo, i normaly upgraded to fiesty
[10:56] <pollyo> Mena: How do you come to have the Edgy liveCD and Feisty on your system?
[10:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Boot into your installed Feisty and enable DHCP
[10:56] <Mena> pollyo, and every thing wa s fine
[10:56] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, ok
[10:57] <pollyo> Mena: I see.  So you upgraded to Feisty and it was working for quite some time?  Did you reboot after you upgraded to feisty and the network was working?
[10:57] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: What about chrooting into your feisty now
[10:57] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, ohh by the way i installed guarddog but i didnt change any thing and i remove it but after this the conection was working as i remeber so ...no no its not the reason
[10:57] <chemicalvamp> when i went from windows to desktop cd to try it. wlassistant wouldnt auto connect to my network, so i had to go into windows and write down my IP,subnet,gateway,dhcp,dns and manualy enter it into wlassistant, maybe something similar would help you mena
[10:57] <Mena> pollyo, yes
[10:57] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, explain?
[10:58] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: No, he is using DHCP, but he changed stuff there. I believe his problem is hand mase
[10:58] <MilhousePunkRock> made*
[10:58] <Mena> chemicalvamp, i already did
[10:58] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: You already created a folder and mounted /dev/hda1 to it, IIRC, yes?
[10:58] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, okay Brb
[10:58] <chemicalvamp> i c.. maybe we're in the same boat mena
[10:58] <Mena> any more thing
[10:59] <Mena> things*
[10:59] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock yes
[10:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: Reactivate DHCP and and leave everything as is, that should be it
[10:59] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Is there a there a dpkg reconfig to reset network settings?
[11:00] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: To the original?
[11:00] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, are you saying i could try upgrading my fiesty install using this desktop cd? o.0
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: So basically now you would open a console and chroot into your installed feisty
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Yes
[11:00] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, i like that idea
[11:00] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock continue :)
[11:00] <MilhousePunkRock> But I need some assistance from a more experienced user to achieve a clean chroot
[11:01] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: I did that when my initial update to Feisty failed, or rather I made it fail
[11:01] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock what does it involve me doing? and is there like a wiki for it or something?
[11:02] <MilhousePunkRock> I think you would have to mount /dev and /proc too, but I am not really sure.. So I would want one of the gurus to step in here
[11:02] <chemicalvamp> do we have some gurus?
[11:02] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Well, basically it's just one command, but I am sure the way I did it is not 100% proper...
[11:03] <Hobbsee> !chroot
[11:03] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[11:03] <chemicalvamp> stdin is kinda like a guru :) HI!
[11:04] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock are we doing a fiesty or edgy chroot?
[11:05] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Good question, I would say Feisty, as you CHange the ROOT from edgy to feisty
[11:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Thanks, but I am unsure if we need that debootstrap thing
[11:06] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock woah, wich one.. i run amd64, heres the link http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/
[11:06] <Black_Cat> aren't there wmv/asf codecs for kubuntu?
[11:06] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: you do
[11:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: I succeeded without that, but as I said, I am pretty sure that was kinda unclean
[11:07] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: are you just trying to upgrade to feisty?
[11:07] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: He is trying to get his wireless back up in Feisty, from an Edgy LiveCD.
[11:07] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: you can test the upgrader https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[11:07] <Hobbsee> ahh
[11:07] <Hobbsee> hang on a sec then
[11:07] <Hobbsee> how do you plan to get the wireless back up?
[11:08] <chemicalvamp> Hobbsee nope, i got fiesty, trying to get it upgraded (hoping it will fix my internet) im running live cd of edgy
[11:08] <chemicalvamp> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade BLOWS! it fubared my last install
[11:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: For now, chroot into Feisty and checking if there is a update missing
[11:08] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: run "sudo chroot /mnt/feisty su"
[11:09] <chemicalvamp> Hobbsee do i need to install the package on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/?
[11:09] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: no
[11:09] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Like I said... :-D
[11:09] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: heh.  i didnt understand what you were trying to do
[11:09] <chemicalvamp> chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt/feisty: No such file or directory
[11:09] <Hobbsee> but msot people dont need chroots, in normal situations
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: OK, that is probably not even there yet
[11:10] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: of course not.  wherever you've mounted the feisty partition.
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> Unmount the first mount again
[11:10] <chemicalvamp> my hda1 is mounted to /mnt/hda1
[11:10] <Hobbsee> then use /mnt/hda1
[11:10] <MilhousePunkRock> fair enough, just replace that
[11:10] <Hobbsee> instead of /mnt/feisty
[11:10] <ravan> are kde packages in kubuntu compiled --without-arts ?
[11:10] <chemicalvamp> so sudo chroot /mnt/hda1 su?
[11:10] <Hobbsee> ravan: dont think so, why?
[11:11] <MilhousePunkRock> ravan: Unlikely
[11:11] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: yes
[11:11] <Hobbsee> you'll probably have to install the package "chroot" first
[11:11] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: No, edgy's live CD has that
[11:11] <chemicalvamp> Hobbsee done
[11:11] <chemicalvamp> root@ubuntu:/#
[11:11] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:11] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: You are inside your installed Feisty now in the Konsole window
[11:12] <Hobbsee> ie, execute update as normal
[11:12] <ravan> Hobbsee: i wanted to thinking of shifting to kubuntu and don't like using arts as alsa can server the purpose
[11:12] <chemicalvamp> ahh thats pimp
[11:12] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Does that mean I can leave now? ;-)
[11:12] <natsume_> i dont see any different between fiesty and dapper
[11:12] <natsume_> it still same,
[11:12] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: no.  :P
[11:12] <chemicalvamp> Hobbsee do i need to substitute anything? or exactly like you said?
[11:12] <MilhousePunkRock> ravan: Shift from where? Sounds like you use a meta distro now?!?! You usually don't compile stuff yourself in Kubuntu
[11:12] <Hobbsee> natsume_: it's not.  you've probably got your own config still there
[11:13] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: you dont need to substitute
[11:13] <natsume_> actually what is the different
[11:13] <chemicalvamp> failed, want me to !paste it?
[11:13] <MilhousePunkRock> natsume_: Really? Kernel 5 steps newer, KDE newer, slighty different look, upstart instead of init
[11:13] <natsume_> ohh ya
[11:14] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: yes, pastebin please
[11:14] <natsume_> hahaha did notice it coz i'm just open my lappie then leave it
[11:14] <natsume_> after a while come back
[11:15] <chemicalvamp> Hobbsee its biiig http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13643/
[11:15] <MilhousePunkRock> natsume_: You will need to reboot though, kernels cant be changed in a running system yet
[11:15] <natsume_> MilhousePunkRock:
[11:15] <natsume_> i already upgrade to fiesty last 2 week ago
[11:15] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Yet...Is that something they are working on?
[11:16] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock,
[11:16] <natsume_> natsume@natsume:~$ uname -r
[11:16] <natsume_> 2.6.20-13-386
[11:16] <MilhousePunkRock> pollyo: From what I heard, yes
[11:16] <pollyo> MilhousePunkRock: Great.
[11:16] <MilhousePunkRock> natsume_: That sounds like feisty to me
[11:16] <chemicalvamp> Hobbsee do i have to enable universe or multiverse for this? i havent run adept on the live cd this session
[11:16] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock,i swithced to it and it chosse's the right Ip
[11:16] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: WB. Did not work, I assume
[11:16] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, yes
[11:16] <Mena> didnt
[11:16] <Mena> :( :( :( :( :( :(
[11:17] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: no.  and you're using apt-get to update, not adept
[11:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: Maybe he needs to copy his resolv.conf over to the other enviroment?
[11:18] <Mena> MilhousePunkRock, ? what Can i Do mooooooooooooore :) ehehheheh ?
[11:18] <MilhousePunkRock> Mena: I am out of knowledge for now, sorry
[11:18] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: it'll still be using all the edgy live cd configs to connect to the internet.  shouldnt be needed
[11:18] <Mena> ok
[11:18] <Mena> no prob
[11:18] <Mena> Thanks for you help :)
[11:19] <chemicalvamp> Mena wish i could help, havent had that issue... yet
[11:19] <natsume_> seriously
[11:19] <Mena> chemicalvamp, ok no pro :)
[11:19] <natsume_> nothing different between fiesty and dapper (noob say) hehehehe
[11:20] <natsume_> the kde may be had a changes, but lil bit
[11:20] <MilhousePunkRock> natsume_: That's because if you customized the look of KDE, it won't touch it. There are many changes "under the hood"
[11:20] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Try to ping something in that chroot konsole... like google.com
[11:21] <chemicalvamp> ping: unknown host www.google.com
[11:21] <pollyo> can you boot a VM from a partition in QEMU?
[11:21] <chemicalvamp> root@ubuntu:/# ifconfig
[11:22] <chemicalvamp> Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev (No such file or directory). Limited output.
[11:22] <Mena> pollyo, Thanks For help chemicalvamp, thanks for tring to help me thanks all )
[11:22] <Mena> :)
[11:22] <chemicalvamp> (wanted to see if my wlan0 was in there)
[11:22] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: That's what I meant with "unclean". I think you would have to mount /proc and /dev properly too
[11:23] <Hobbsee> pollyo: ask in #qemu
[11:23] <chemicalvamp> Hobbsee do you know how to do what MilhousePunkRock is proposing?
[11:24] <Hobbsee> chemicalvamp: not offhand, no, sorry
[11:25] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Like suggested here, but no guarantees: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[11:25] <chemicalvamp> sudo chroot /mnt/hda1/proc su wouldnt work for proc?
[11:26] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Leave the chroot again: "exit"
[11:26] <MilhousePunkRock> and mount the three folders like they say on the dist upgrade instruction
[11:26] <chemicalvamp> u mean close the cli?
[11:26] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: No, type "exit"
[11:27] <chemicalvamp> mkay so i need to install kubuntu-desktop... the instructions on the bottom right?
[11:28] <MilhousePunkRock> yeah, well, almost, just the three mount command, chemicalvamp
[11:28] <chemicalvamp> JUST the mount commands?
[11:29] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Yes, according to your mount point, of course
[11:31] <natsume_> *sigh* i'm hate my teeth,
[11:31] <chemicalvamp> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t none -o bind /tmp edgy/tmp ......mount: mount point edgy/tmp does not exist
[11:31] <chemicalvamp> i added the .......
[11:32] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Didnt you say you mounted /dev/hda1 to /mnt/hda1?
[11:32] <chemicalvamp> yes
[11:32] <MilhousePunkRock> so it would go to /mnt/hda1/tmp and /mnt/hda1/dev and /mnt/hda1/proc
[11:33] <chemicalvamp> show me an example.. mount -t none -o bind /tmp edgy/tmp
[11:33] <chemicalvamp> replace edgy?
[11:34] <MilhousePunkRock> mount -t none -o bind /tmp /mnt/hda1/tmp
[11:35] <chemicalvamp> done
[11:35] <MilhousePunkRock> for all three directories?
[11:35] <chemicalvamp> yup
[11:35] <pollyo> If I knew the boot from partition worked in qemu then I would have a neat idea.  You could have started a VM inside Edgy and have it boot from your harddrive it would then emulate a standard eth0 and you could update from within Feisty itself.
[11:36] <chemicalvamp> pollyo lol are you trying to confuse me?
[11:36] <pollyo> lol
[11:36] <MilhousePunkRock>  /ignore pollyo
[11:36] <MilhousePunkRock> ;-)
[11:36] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, now what? apt-get?

[11:36] <chemicalvamp> lol thats evil
[11:36] <MilhousePunkRock> chrooted again?
[11:37] <chemicalvamp> lemme find the command again
[11:37] <MilhousePunkRock> if not: sudo chroot /mnt/hda1 su
[11:37] <chemicalvamp> now the apt-get command?
[11:37] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Yes
[11:38] <lotusleaf> I followed the instructions on the wiki on disabling ipv6, and while it is disabled, ntpd keeps saying in my daemon.log "modprobe: WARNING: Not loading blacklisted module ipv6" so somehow it thinks ipv6 is still enabled which it isn't, how may I fix this?
[11:38] <chemicalvamp> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:38] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Yes
[11:38] <chemicalvamp> didnt work
[11:38] <MilhousePunkRock> same resolve issue?
[11:38] <chemicalvamp> yeah
[11:39] <MilhousePunkRock> hmm
[11:39] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Let me try something
[11:40] <ffffu> what's the problem
[11:40] <chemicalvamp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13643/
[11:41] <chemicalvamp> ffffu, do you know what im trying to do?
[11:42] <ffffu> yeah..are you on the network?
[11:42] <ffffu> ifconfig
[11:42] <ffffu> or ping www.google.com
[11:43] <chemicalvamp> yes my wlan0 is showing, but ping www.google.com failed
[11:43] <ffffu> you using wireless ?
[11:43] <chemicalvamp> yes
[11:43] <ffffu> iwlist wlan0 scanning
[11:43] <ffffu> do u see anything
[11:44] <chemicalvamp> yes, the network im connected to
[11:44] <ffffu> haha u are not conencted yet
[11:44] <ffffu> but you see the network right..hmm what wireless card u using
[11:44] <chemicalvamp> okie
[11:44] <ffffu> lspci
[11:44] <chemicalvamp> oh god that command.. 1 sec
[11:44] <ffffu> do you find your wireless card's name in the list?
[11:44] <chemicalvamp> ive never seen it in tere
[11:45] <ffffu> its a pci wireless card right?
[11:45] <chemicalvamp> <--- laptop
[11:45] <chemicalvamp> so i dk
[11:45] <ffffu> okok nvmind
[11:46] <ffffu> you want manual way or gui way
[11:46] <ffffu> manual way to set up your network
[11:46] <ffffu> sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[11:46] <chemicalvamp> my network needs to be manualy set up with wlassistant.. so manual i guess.. i have all the stuff i need to do it
[11:47] <ffffu> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces (nano easier to use)
[11:47] <ffffu> find the line auto wlan0
[11:47] <ffffu> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[11:47] <ffffu> put in "wireless-essid xxxxxxxx"
[11:47] <ffffu> and "wireless-key xxxxxxxx"
[11:48] <ffffu> essid is where u see in iwlist wlan0 scanning
[11:48] <ffffu> following so far?
[11:48] <chemicalvamp> so substitute the x's with what i find in the scanning ting?
[11:48] <ffffu> yes.. hey does the network have WEP key on ?
[11:49] <ffffu> if it does, you must get the key its in hexidecimal format or acsi
[11:49] <chemicalvamp> encryption key:off
[11:49] <ffffu> oh ok then don't need to put the line wireless-key xxxx
[11:49] <ffffu> just put wireless-essid
[11:49] <ffffu> xxx
[11:49] <ffffu> wireless-essid xxxx
[11:50] <ffffu> after that sudo ifdown wlan0
[11:50] <ffffu> sudo ifup wlan0
[11:50] <chemicalvamp> one sec, how do i add that first thing in
[11:50] <ffffu> are u in vi or nano?
[11:50] <ffffu> use nano
[11:50] <chemicalvamp> nano
[11:50] <ffffu> vi us difficult
[11:50] <ffffu> press enter on the line below iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[11:51] <ffffu> press Ctrl X to save and exit
[11:51] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: ffffu has a point there, why not just copy edgy's /etc/network/interfaces over to Feisty?
[11:51] <chemicalvamp> cuz this info isnt in either
[11:51] <ffffu> !!! u have one? that's easier
[11:51] <chemicalvamp> there both identical
[11:52] <chemicalvamp> i checked it
[11:52] <chemicalvamp> ESSID:"gilley network" is whats displayed n scanning
[11:52] <root> hello
[11:52] <ffffu> wireless assistance manager doesn't edit the file /etc/network/interfaces
[11:52] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: In that case it's not an issue with the network/interfaces
[11:52] <ffffu> which mean to say u need to run wireless assistance manger to connect everytime..until u edit that file
[11:52] <chemicalvamp> so we continue?
[11:53] <chemicalvamp> ESSID:"gilley network" quotes no quotes?
[11:53] <ffffu> try ifup and ifdown to see if u can accquire network ip
[11:53] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: I think it doesnt even matter...
[11:53] <ffffu> no qutes
[11:53] <ffffu> put
[11:53] <se7en11> anybody know how to play vcd files .dat ?
[11:53] <chemicalvamp> ok whats after that?
[11:53] <ffffu> wireless-essid gilley network
[11:53] <dany_21> se7en11: give vlc a try
[11:54] <ffffu> hey maybe got quote
[11:54] <se7en11> no
[11:54] <ubuntura> se7en11 using kplayer software
[11:54] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Let me check mine, one second
[11:54] <chemicalvamp> ok quotes in
[11:54] <chemicalvamp> what next
[11:55] <ffffu> sudo ifdown wlan0
[11:55] <ffffu> sudo ifup wlan0
[11:55] <ffffu> then ifconfig
[11:55] <chemicalvamp> save this and run those or put those in it?
[11:55] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: without quote
[11:55] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: its wireless-essid gilley network
[11:55] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Confirmed, no quotes
[11:55] <ffffu> save it
[11:56] <ffffu> nooooooooo
[11:56] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: save it.. don't put the sudo ifdown and up into the file
[11:56] <MilhousePunkRock> I doubt that spaces are allowed, not sure though
[11:56] <ffffu> do it at the terminal
[11:56] <se7en11> ubuntura: kplayer
[11:56] <chemicalvamp> got that
[11:57] <ubuntura> se7en11 kplayer (the media player for linux kde desktop)
[11:57] <chemicalvamp> root@ubuntu:/# sudo ifdown wlan0 (displayed) ifdown: failed to open statefile /var/run/network/ifstate: No such file or directory
[11:58] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: don't worry about that
[11:58] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: sudo ifup wlan0
[11:58] <chemicalvamp> said the same thing
[11:58] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: I think you need to exit the chroot again and mount /var like you mounted the other directories
[11:58] <dettoaltrimenti> is there a program that lets a linux computer show up on My Network Places in windows?
[11:59] <MilhousePunkRock> dettoaltrimenti: Samba
[11:59] <ffffu> not sure if you got the drivers installed..hm
[11:59] <MilhousePunkRock> !samba
[11:59] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:59] <dettoaltrimenti> thanks
[11:59] <chemicalvamp> so type exit?
[11:59] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Yes
[11:59] <ffffu> iwlist (tab tab) whos what?
[11:59] <ffffu> iwlist (tab tab) shows what?
[11:59] <ffffu> i mean
[11:59] <ffffu> nvmind
[11:59] <ffffu> ifup (tabtab)
[12:00] <chemicalvamp> huh?
[12:00] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Mount /var
[12:00] <MilhousePunkRock> and chroot again
[12:00] <ffffu> type that command and press tab without pressing enter
[12:01] <ffffu> does it show ath0   eth0   eth1   eth2   lo     wlan0 or something
[12:01] <chemicalvamp> mount -t none -o bind /var /mnt/hda1/proc    ?
[12:01] <chemicalvamp> var* not proc
[12:01] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Yes
[12:01] <johey> How can I make digiKam start when inserting my camera into a USB port? Currently, it just offers me to open in new window or do nothing. However, the icon is a camera and KDE-demon calls the device "USB Imaging Interface".
[12:02] <chemicalvamp> done
[12:02] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Chroot again
[12:02] <pollyo> johey: Isn't there an option to add programs to the selection it gives you?
[12:02] <chemicalvamp> sudo chroot /mnt/hda1
[12:03] <chemicalvamp> now what
[12:03] <MilhousePunkRock> su
[12:03] <chemicalvamp> oops
[12:03] <johey> pollyo: Yes there is... Hm.
[12:03] <johey> pollyo: I can try that one.
[12:03] <chemicalvamp> lol exit and do it again
[12:03] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: nvm, just type su
[12:03] <MilhousePunkRock> "su"
[12:04] <chemicalvamp> sudo chroot /mnt/hda1 su entered
[12:05] <ubuntura> when i start x the kde will start automaitic how to make x (startx) start non start kde ????
[12:05] <chemicalvamp> i dont get it.. i ping google in root@ubuntu:/# and i get nothing
[12:05] <pollyo> BBL
[12:05] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: i think u need to first find out what's ur wireless card by typing lspci ..
[12:05] <chemicalvamp> but ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ dies it perfectly
[12:06] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: seems to me its not detected
[12:06] <chemicalvamp> are we encountering the same problems i had running fiesty?
[12:06] <ffffu> huh what's the situation? u using edgy or fiesty
[12:06] <ffffu> upgrade or
[12:06] <ffffu> fresh installation
[12:07] <chemicalvamp> fiesty is /mnt/hda1
[12:07] <Dusk_> my kaffeine player doesn't show subtitles
[12:07] <chemicalvamp> right now im talking to you thru a live cd
[12:07] <Dusk_>  it's chosen but it doesn't show
[12:07] <Dusk_> it used to show
[12:07] <ffffu> oic
[12:07] <Dusk_> but all of a sudden it stopped showing subtitles
[12:07] <ffffu> why are u connecting to net first during installation
[12:08] <natsume_> Dusk
[12:08] <chemicalvamp> lspci = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13646/
[12:08] <natsume_> reinstall kaffiene
[12:08] <Dusk_> natsume_: i reinstalled
[12:08] <MilhousePunkRock> johey: What you are looking for might be in the notifications section in settings
[12:08] <Dusk_> natsume_: but it's same
[12:08] <ubuntura> what is *.so files ?
[12:08] <ffffu> 05:02.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 20)
[12:09] <chemicalvamp> ah k
[12:09] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Since it's recognised as an ethernet card, do you maybe have eth1?
[12:10] <natsume_> just want to ask him same questio
[12:10] <natsume_> hehehe
[12:10] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: type "ifconfig"
[12:10] <ubuntura> what is *.so files ?
[12:10] <chemicalvamp> i have in if config eth0 lo and wlan0
[12:10] <ffffu> could it be the modules not loaded
[12:10] <lotusleaf> I followed the instructions on the wiki on disabling ipv6, and while it is disabled, ntpd keeps saying in my daemon.log "modprobe: WARNING: Not loading blacklisted module ipv6" so somehow it thinks ipv6 is still enabled which it isn't, how may I fix this?
[12:10] <ffffu> for the wireless?
[12:11] <chemicalvamp> in fiesty, wlan0 isnt even there
[12:11] <natsume_> ubuntu iso = image
[12:11] <chemicalvamp> typing ifconfig wlan0 up says device not found or somehting like that
[12:11] <natsume_> ubuntu iso =complete image of cdirom
[12:11] <natsume_> try ifconfig eth1
[12:12] <ffffu> lemme figure out what are the modules for this card
[12:12] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: type just "ifconfig" that should show you all cards
[12:12] <chemicalvamp> ifconfig eth0 does not disply the right MAC address
[12:12] <johey> When choosing to start digiKam on camera connection, it automatically makes this command line: 'digikam -caption "%c" %i %m'. However, when launching that, I just get an error message (translated into English from Swedish) "Error - Kio run: The file or directory / doesn't exist".
[12:13] <chemicalvamp> wlan0 shows the right MAC (i know)
[12:13] <ubuntura> not iso
[12:13] <ubuntura> so
[12:13] <johey> What are those %i and %m options?
[12:13] <ubuntura> the so files
[12:13] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: can u type lsmod | grep rtl8187
[12:13] <ffffu> chemicalvamp: if nothing type lsmod | grep rtl
[12:13] <ffffu> if nothign means your rtl8187 module not loaded
[12:13] <chemicalvamp> done, didnt display anything
[12:14] <ffffu> can try typing modprobe rtl8187
[12:14] <ffffu> and try lsmod | grep rtl
[12:14] <ffffu> if its loaded
[12:14] <ffffu> try sudo ifup wlan0
[12:14] <chemicalvamp> FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/modules.dep: No such file or directory
[12:14] <ffffu> ah
[12:14] <ffffu> did u sudo ?
[12:14] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: I really wonder why the network won't work inside the chroot, I am just upgrading my gentoo from kubuntu
[12:14] <ffffu> sudo modprobe rtl8187
[12:15] <chemicalvamp> sudo sad the same thing
[12:15] <natsume_> it's a dynamic shared object
[12:15] <natsume_> i guess
[12:15] <natsume_> hehehe
[12:15] <MilhousePunkRock> ffffu: Remember he is chroot'ed
[12:15] <natsume_> not really sure
[12:15] <ffffu> do a modprobe -l | grep rtl
[12:15] <chemicalvamp> same
[12:15] <ffffu> ooooo
[12:15] <ffffu> can he chroot to default?
[12:16] <cuco> chemicalvamp: resolv.conf available on the chroot? /proc?
[12:16] <ffffu> MihousePu: how do u chroot back to default ?
[12:17] <MilhousePunkRock> exit
[12:17] <ffffu> somehow.. u need to modprobe rtl8187
[12:17] <ffffu> that could enable ur wireless..
[12:18] <MilhousePunkRock> ffffu: But outside the chroot he is on the live cd, where the wifi works
[12:18] <chemicalvamp> do you want the !paste of my ls /proc?
[12:18] <ffffu> Oh
[12:19] <chemicalvamp> i dont see a resolv in ls /proc
[12:27] <cuco> chemicalvamp: /etc/resolv.conf
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> u want me to nano it or what
[12:27] <cuco> does it exists?
[12:27] <cuco> it should containt the same as the one outside the chroot
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> resolvconf
[12:27] <cuco> chemicalvamp: in the chroot, ping <IP_ADDRESS> (i want to see if this is a dns problem)
[12:27] <hnsn> hello friends!!
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> nano /etc/resolv.conf brings up an empty
[12:27] <yaccin> yay tastymenu 0.7 \o/
[12:27] <themijs> amai amai
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> its pining
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> ping is spamming me, how do i make it stop?
[12:27] <ffffu> ctrl - c
[12:27] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Ctrl-C
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> k
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> --- <IP_ADDRESS> ping statistics ---
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> 52 packets transmitted, 0 received, +48 errors, 100% packet loss, time 51009ms
[12:27] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: 100% packet loss doesn't sound too good
[12:27] <chemicalvamp> or the 48 errors
[12:28] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: We could copy your edgy's resolv.conf over to feisty and chroot again
[12:29] <chemicalvamp> worth a try i say
[12:29] <chemicalvamp> i dont know the commands tho
[12:30] <ffffu> what are u doing, why are u trying to load you fiesty setting when in a live cd?
[12:30] <MilhousePunkRock> ffffu: His wifi does not work in the installed Feisty, but inside his Live Edgy
[12:30] <chemicalvamp> no we wanna put the live cd setting into fiesty right?
[12:31] <ffffu> oic
[12:31] <MilhousePunkRock> is it /etc/resolv.conf?
[12:32] <johey> When trying to start digiKam by inserting the camera, it says it cannot start because file or directory / doesn't exist. Why? What is the difference from starting it by the K menu?
[12:32] <ffffu> hmm sounds like a funny way to troubleshoot his wifi
[12:32] <chemicalvamp> there is one line in live cd's resolv.conf
[12:32] <chemicalvamp> nameserver
[12:32] <ffffu> i would boot in fiesty and see if its a drivers/modules problem, or is it settings
[12:33] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Exit
[12:33] <chemicalvamp> fiesty resolv.conf is empty
[12:33] <chemicalvamp> shoud i paste the line from live cd?
[12:34] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: And then "sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/hda1/etc/resolv.conf"
[12:34] <chemicalvamp> k now sudo chroot /mnt/hda1 su   ?
[12:35] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Yup
[12:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Hobbsee: DoomStick?
[12:35] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: the Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  rules!
[12:35] <linopil> any one using virtualization with INTEL VT MB?
[12:35] <nazgjunk> hey, how'd i get applications to open web links in firefox instead of in konqueror?
[12:36] <nazgjunk> copy/pasting is getting a bit annoying
[12:36] <c1|freaky> hi all. where can i change the behaviour when clicking on symbols like the ones on the desktop? i dont want one-click-execution ... instead i want it like in windows with doubleclick so i have the chance to press DEL to remove icons etc.
[12:36] <linopil> nazgjunk,  you mean from chat app
[12:36] <linopil> or?
[12:36] <MilhousePunkRock> nazgjunk: Default applications in the settings centre
[12:36] <nazgjunk> linopil, for instance
[12:36] <linopil> !alternatives
[12:36] <ubotu> To change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.
[12:36] <nazgjunk> looks like fun
[12:36] <linopil> ^^
[12:37] <ffffu> c1|freaky: go systems-->mouse/keyboard-->singleclick change to doubleclick
[12:37] <MilhousePunkRock> c1|freaky: I think that's in the settings too
[12:37] <ffffu> c1|freaky: go system settings -->mouse/keyboard-->singleclick change to doubleclick
[12:37] <c1|freaky> thx :D
[12:38] <chemicalvamp> ok now what?
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> c1|freaky: Alternatively, you can "draw" little squares around obkects to highlight them
[12:38] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: apt-get update
[12:39] <chemicalvamp> hey there we go
[12:39] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: PLEEEEEASE tell me it's resolving now
[12:39] <chemicalvamp> oh yes its going xD
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> \o/
[12:40] <chemicalvamp> so this is all fiesty then huh?
[12:40] <chemicalvamp> we should document what we did dont you think?
[12:40] <nazgjunk> yay, it's working just fine
[12:40] <MilhousePunkRock> well, one problem solved, a thousand remaining...
[12:40] <liam> lol
[12:40] <chemicalvamp> only a thousand?
[12:40] <ffffu> hey goodluck
[12:40] <ffffu> i gtg
[12:40] <chemicalvamp> i bet i hit every one of them
[12:41] <chemicalvamp> thvvm
[12:41] <chemicalvamp> thanks very very much
[12:41] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: No, _I_ wanted to use your edgy's resolv.conf in the first place, Hobbsee said we wouldn't need to
[12:41] <liam> i hit all the problems when i installed fiesty
[12:41] <chemicalvamp> its all good
[12:41] <chemicalvamp> ok updates are in
[12:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Why the hedge is everyone saying "Fiesty" when it's called "Feisty"?
[12:42] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:42] <liam> cause i cant spell :)
[12:42] <chemicalvamp> erm lol
[12:42] <chemicalvamp> 739 upgraded 78 new 3 removed
[12:43] <chemicalvamp> E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
[12:43] <MilhousePunkRock> liam: You are not alone with that..
[12:43] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: LoL
[12:43] <liam> that makes me feel better!
[12:44] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock 692mb it comes to
[12:44] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: sure you cant install anything on the live CD
[12:44] <chemicalvamp> you can install stuff on live cd, it goes to ram.. but you lose it all when you reboot
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: What about exiting once again, and unmounting /var again?
[12:45] <chemicalvamp> maybe its permisions?
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: But as we mounted the cd's /var, you cannot... because you cant write on the cd
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: no
[12:45] <chemicalvamp> ok then tell me what to do
[12:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Permissions are not the answer to all Linux questions... ;-)
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> exit
[12:46] <chemicalvamp> k
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> sudo umount /dev/hda1/var
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> sudo chroot /dev/hda1 su
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> apt-get update
[12:46] <chemicalvamp> umount: /dev/hda1/var: Not a directory
[12:46] <MilhousePunkRock> apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:47] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Right... sudo umount /mnt/hda1/var
[12:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Better?
[12:47] <chemicalvamp> if we used the cds var, it wouldnt be hda would it?
[12:47] <chemicalvamp> yes lol
[12:49] <chemicalvamp> ok well i say somebody with this in mind should write it down and post it
[12:51] <chemicalvamp> 209 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[12:54] <vio> hiya guys
[12:54] <vio> is this the place i can ask for help?
[12:54] <MilhousePunkRock> vio: Yes, go ahead... I am in a helpy mood...
[12:55] <vio> just need to know what to type to get the "unofficial ati drivers" the kind i need is  VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10]
[12:55] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: There is no guarantee that it will work after the updates though...
[12:55] <MilhousePunkRock> !ati
[12:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:55] <vio> thx ^^,
[12:55] <vio> another quicky.. berly and compiz.. how do i install that?
[12:55] <chemicalvamp> yeah well it'de be less of a wase of time then the https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade i did
[12:56] <MilhousePunkRock> !beryl
[12:56] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:56] <vio> thx :DD
[12:56] <vio> lol
[12:56] <MilhousePunkRock> vio: The bot is triggered with !keyword
[12:56] <vio> yeah i figured it out
[12:56] <chemicalvamp> !botsnack
[12:56] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:56] <ded_> dans kdevelop comment regenerer ma classe de dialog quand j ai modifier le .ui dans qt sans effacer mes slots deja implementer?
[12:57] <MilhousePunkRock> !beer
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <MilhousePunkRock> ded_: English please
[12:57] <chemicalvamp> this one is funny
[12:57] <MilhousePunkRock> !fr
[12:57] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:57] <chemicalvamp> !love
[12:57] <ubotu> Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come.
[12:57] <ded_> sorry
[12:57] <vio> i've used it before just wasted lots of time finding drivers.. so i figured i'd ask this time
[12:57] <chijin> !sex
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <Jucato> !botabuse
[12:57] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:57] <vio> how can i check what kind of version i have of ubuntu?
[12:58] <vio> not sure if it is 6.10
[12:58] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: You know about the Firefox/Iceweasel issue in Debian?
[12:58] <Jucato> vio: "lsb_release -a" in Konsole
[12:58] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock no im pretty new
[12:59] <vio> ty
[12:59] <vio> damn.. u guys are helpful ^^,
[12:59] <supernix> anyone know of a good gui for configuring apache or something free that is like cpanel ?
[01:00] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock what was it>
[01:00] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Well, Firefox and/or the Mozilla foundation does not fit Debian's license... So they renamed Firefox Iceweasel
[01:00] <ded_>  in kdevelop how to regenerate dialog underclass from qt ui without delete implemented slot?
[01:01] <chemicalvamp> weird
[01:03] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock, so you think you'll write a how-to for what we did?
[01:03] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: How's the download going?
[01:03] <vio> how do i become root?
[01:03] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: No
[01:03] <chemicalvamp> 16%
[01:03] <MilhousePunkRock> vio: Why would you want to do that?
[01:03] <vio> in console
[01:03] <vio> to install beryl
[01:03] <liam> sudo before your command
[01:03] <MilhousePunkRock> vio: sudo command
[01:04] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock you should, you remember what we had to do right?
[01:04] <vio> thx
[01:04] <mefisto__> anyone using amarok to download podcasts?
[01:04] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Well, that's plain linux basics... And still, we don't know if it will help at all...
[01:04] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: I am much to lazy to write howto's
[01:04] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock well lets say it does :)
[01:05] <vio> i get chmod 755 beryl-setup
[01:05] <vio> i mean i get opearation not permitted
[01:05] <vio> when i type that
[01:05] <MilhousePunkRock> I always thought about putting up some kind of blog or something to keep track of what I did with Linux so far
[01:05] <chemicalvamp> sudo chmod 755 beryl-setup?
[01:05] <MilhousePunkRock> vio: Try "sudo chmod 755 beryl-setup" instead
[01:05] <vio> tryin*
[01:06] <vio> ok.. i think i worked..
[01:06] <MilhousePunkRock> isnt beryl in the repos by now?
[01:06] <chemicalvamp> well i have to work in 4 hours.. so looks like i pulled an all nighter lol
[01:06] <mefisto__> whenever amarok is downloading a podcast, the progress meter stops at 44%, although it seems to continue downloading. Just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this?
[01:06] <vio> !xgl
[01:06] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:06] <vio> what is xgl?
[01:07] <vio> ^
[01:07] <sonoftheclayr> mefisto__: #amarok
[01:07] <mefisto__> thanks sonoftheclayr
[01:08] <chemicalvamp> does linux have a .wmv player?
[01:08] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: You got jabber, msn, icq or aim? Unlike most others, I am not here all day, in case more issues appear...
[01:08] <MilhousePunkRock> !multimedia
[01:08] <ubotu> For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:08] <vio> question: can i use the installer from atiamd.com ?
[01:08] <chemicalvamp> i got yahoo, msn and aim
[01:10] <MilhousePunkRock> vio: You shouldn't, I am sure there is a kubuntu package for your ATI card
[01:12] <chemicalvamp> !ati
[01:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:12] <chemicalvamp> i had to do it too
[01:13] <chemicalvamp> its pretty easy to do
[01:13] <vio> !ati
[01:13] <vio> hmm
[01:13] <vio> strange
[01:13] <vio> !ati
[01:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:13] <chemicalvamp> bot like me more
[01:13] <chemicalvamp> ^
[01:19] <sonoftheclayr> does anyone have their wireless set to connect on startup in feisty?
[01:20] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: Me
[01:21] <chemicalvamp> sonoftheclayr.. grrr mine never detected it
[01:21] <sonoftheclayr> i have to set the essid every time i boot up and connect it
[01:22] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: I think you can set that in the options, on the other hand, someone said the network manager does not touch your /etc/network/interfaces
[01:22] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock you think that could have been what kept mine from going all those times?
[01:22] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Unlikely, since your device wasn't even there
[01:23] <sonoftheclayr> MilhousePunkRock i have but it doesn't work, it does inedgy though, i think i should file a bug report
[01:23] <chemicalvamp> oh right lol
[01:23] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: Do you have your ESSID hidden?
[01:23] <sonoftheclayr> yeah
[01:23] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: Well, I don't. No use anyway, since a scan will reveal that...
[01:24] <sonoftheclayr> i only made it hidden because they were picking it up at the community house and it must've been confusing some non-techno people
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: That's not your problem, is it?
[01:24] <sonoftheclayr> no
[01:24] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Progress?
[01:24] <chemicalvamp> 42%
[01:25] <chemicalvamp> download is steady 60.3
[01:25] <steven_> hello
[01:25] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: That's kinda slow...
[01:25] <chemicalvamp> not my internet so i dont care :)
[01:26] <sonoftheclayr> will knetworkmanager automatically connect it?
[01:26] <steven_> has anybody managed to use a dlink wireless network adapter who can help me please
[01:27] <chemicalvamp> theres a campus router within range from tere library, bad signal
[01:27] <MilhousePunkRock> Oh, no, more wireless troubles...
[01:27] <steven_> indeed
[01:27] <chemicalvamp> lol
[01:27] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: What chipset
[01:27] <MilhousePunkRock> ?
[01:27] <sonoftheclayr> steven_: i have a dlink dwl g630 firmware e1 (i think) i connected it using the madwifi drivers
[01:28] <steven_> the usb dongle is a d-link DWL-G122 hardware version C1
[01:28] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: Let's start simple, type "lsusb" and look for "DLink" in the output
[01:28] <steven_> ok lets go
[01:29] <MilhousePunkRock> I have pretty high hopes that DLink uses Atheros chips in all their devices, so it shouldn't be too hard with madwifi
[01:29] <steven_> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 07d1:3c03 D-Link System
[01:30] <sonoftheclayr> MilhousePunkRock: my other wireless card wich is the same as mine but diferent firmware uses ralink
[01:30] <steven_> from what ive seen on the net its a railink chip
[01:30] <sonoftheclayr> steven_: i've configure a ralink chip before, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:31] <steven_> the thing works and i get a list of available networks with wireless assistant on kde
[01:31] <steven_> but cant connect to any of them
[01:31] <steven_> version 6.10
[01:31] <hans> Is there any special consideration that I must take with regard to Kubuntu when shopping for a camcorder?
[01:32] <chemicalvamp> ohh i know how to fix this lol
[01:32] <steven_> kubuntu
[01:32] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: What about this: http://www.hotubuntunews.com/blog_2.shtml
[01:32] <steven_> let me check the link hold on
[01:32] <sonoftheclayr> there's a good post on how to configure a ralink card in the forums, let me find it
[01:33] <steven_> is there a command i can use to find out what my ubuntu is cos i think its edgy but not sure how to find out
[01:34] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: We've just had that, let me scroll up and find it
[01:34] <MilhousePunkRock> "lsb_release -a" in Konsole
[01:34] <sonoftheclayr> you can just go in to tty and it tells you at the login prompt, much faster
[01:35] <sonoftheclayr> that post was for dapper though :'(
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: Indeed
[01:35] <linopil> how do I force after install a 3 runlevel because of bad resolution?
[01:35] <MilhousePunkRock> I dont think it matters much, the /etc/network/interfaces is still the place to go
[01:36] <steven_> ok its 6.10 edgy
[01:36] <hans> Is there any special consideration that I must take with regard to Kubuntu when shopping for a camcorder?
[01:37] <linopil> how do I catch stepbystep boot
[01:37] <steven_> like i said it lists networks in wireless assitant it will connect but i then lose my usb modem connectio so how do i set up to use usb modem and wireless network as seperat things but both connected at same time
[01:37] <steven_> if that makes sense
[01:38] <chemicalvamp> steven_ i dont know if it will help but i can tell you how i fixed that on my notebook
[01:38] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: No, it does not. You cannot be connected with two devices at the same time, AFAIK
[01:39] <vio> :(
[01:39] <steven_> bummer
[01:39] <steven_> :(
[01:40] <vio> !repositories
[01:40] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:40] <steven_> thanks for the advice to all those that spoke to me on this you are to kind
[01:41] <luke> another thing, every now and again my card disconnects and i have to mess about reconnecting it -sonoftheclayr, im going to get my nickname back brb
[01:41] <chemicalvamp> steven_ did you get that?
[01:41] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: I might be wrong though. But since noone corrected, I guess I am not
[01:42] <steven_> i thought i read somewhere about configuring 2 connections but dont remeber the prob seems to be with domains
[01:42] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: That might be a router thing, not sure if you can fix that
[01:42] <vio>   Currently, there are only unstable SVN packages for Edgy Eft.?
[01:43] <steven_> my isp gives me one whe i connect and my wireless connection uses a fixed domain
[01:43] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: OK, within the same domain you cannot be connected twice for sure
[01:43] <sonoftheclayr> it's not a router thing, the card connects fine in edgy and stays connected in edgy, this is the second time it's happened today and it always gets me at a bad time!
[01:43] <steven_> so when i connect wireless i lose my isp domain and hence internet connection
[01:43] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: Until the final release, Feisty is testing... :-)
[01:44] <sonoftheclayr> MilhousePunkRock: i know but it's just so fast and easy and cool and better
[01:44] <sonoftheclayr> i'll file a bug report or two and see if it can be fixed before april 19 :)
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> sonoftheclayr: Good luck...
[01:44] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Progress?
[01:45] <sonoftheclayr> hmmm...i have to figure out this new launchpad design first
[01:45] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock about another half hour and it should be done
[01:45] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: OK, I will check back then
[01:46] <chemicalvamp> hopefully i wont be stuck at the dreadfull commnd prompt like i was before
[01:46] <vio> why can't some1 make a easy gui for beryl?!
[01:46] <sayers> it comes with one
[01:47] <vio> it does?
[01:47] <sayers> yes...
[01:47] <alexandre> hello all
[01:47] <vio> any link?
[01:47] <sayers> iti s built in
[01:47] <alexandre> when is kubuntu going to be released?
[01:47] <steven_> hello alexandre
[01:47] <vio> how do i execute?
[01:47] <alexandre> the final version?
[01:48] <sayers> It is already stable alexandre
[01:48] <steven_> im using kubuntu 6.10 edgy and its stable
[01:48] <vio> same... its good
[01:48] <sonoftheclayr> i think it might be a problem with the madwifi drivers, i'll poke around there a bit
[01:48] <alexandre> su it is worthy upgrade my 6.0?
[01:48] <steven_> havnt use 6.0
[01:48] <chemicalvamp> try a 7.04 desktop cd
[01:49] <alexandre> ok
[01:49] <sayers> Is there any built in tool that can alarm me after X amount of time ?
[01:49] <sonoftheclayr> i'll be back, i'm recompiling some drivers
[01:49] <waylandbill> feisty is still in beta. if you don't want beta instabilities, don't upgrade yet.
[01:49] <alexandre> thanks for your advice
[01:49] <chemicalvamp> !kalarm
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kalarm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <chemicalvamp> !info kalarm
[01:49] <ubotu> kalarm: KDE alarm message, command and email scheduler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 642 kB, installed size 1892 kB
[01:50] <sayers> alexandre: Feisty has only a few little bugs. It's comming out pretty soon to be our new stable release :)
[01:50] <MilhousePunkRock> alexandre: There is no 6.0
[01:50] <[pyro] > woo setting up kubuntu on a 6 drive raid 5 :)
[01:50] <[pyro] > weeee
[01:50] <alexandre> sorry 6.10
[01:50] <steven_> anybody know what this means? X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 170
[01:51] <MilhousePunkRock> alexandre: Stick with that for another 3 weeks, then 7.04 is released
[01:51] <chemicalvamp> how did you get that?
[01:51] <steven_> typing in console sudo kedit /etc/network/interfaces
[01:52] <waylandbill> I agree with MilhousePunkRock. Unless you're looking to be one of the bug triage persons, just hold off.
[01:52] <vio> !beryl
[01:52] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:52] <waylandbill> I have to go to install this 1GB memory chip. WOOO!
[01:52] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: kedit seems to be a kde tool, either you use a cli editor or use "kdesu foo bar" on "run command" in kde
[01:52] <steven_> i tried beryl but my graphics card is to crap
[01:53] <holastickboy> anyone actually tried beryl
[01:53] <sayers> yes its cool but not accutely productive.
[01:53] <MilhousePunkRock> holastickboy: I did, next to unusable, but pretty
[01:53] <holastickboy> lol, might give it a go
[01:53] <steven_> thanks millhouse i think i need a decent graphics card anyway as i get a lot of xserver errors
[01:54] <sayers> its good to impress some one
[01:54] <MilhousePunkRock> steven_: Getting better hardware to make things work is the windows approach, just work on making the existing hardware work in linux
[01:55] <steven_> i managed to get glx working after 2 days at command line but its an old ati card and ati dont release the driver for it
[01:56] <sayers> steven_: The ubuntu / kubuntu wiki couldve probably got you working in 20 minutes tops
[01:56] <sayers> unless this is a really old card
[01:56] <steven_> its radeon 7000 with 64 meg memory agp 8X
[01:57] <sayers> Hell that aint old
[01:57] <sayers> a 8mb card is old
[01:58] <smile> hello linuxians
[01:58] <sayers> Hio
[01:58] <smile> did any one here use Cedega ?
[01:58] <steven_> ati drivers start at the 9200 i think but it works good enough now
[01:58] <sayers> steven_: there is a magical page and I will show you as long as you promise to love the Ubuntu wiki
[01:58] <steven_> apart from occasionally i get sent back to the login screen for no reason
[01:59] <steven_> tell me where the ubuntu wiki is as im new to ubuntu after getting fed up with mandriva
[01:59] <sayers> steven_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:59] <sayers> there is the link to what you want too :)
[01:59] <holastickboy> smile: i have used it before
[01:59] <steven_> a link to a wad of cash?
[02:00] <smile> holastickboy: how to install and use it ?
[02:00] <sayers> no better a working graphics card that costed you a wad of caash
[02:01] <holastickboy> smile: i used the cvscedega about 1 1/2 years ago and i used it like i did wine, cvscedega programname.exe
[02:02] <smile> holastickboy: wich games did u try ?
[02:02] <holastickboy> smile: www.linux-gamers.net
[02:02] <steven_> thanks sayers will try it out later but the fglrx driver was giving me probs when i used it before
[02:02] <holastickboy> smile: at the time i was wanting to run steam on Linux, which actually worked nicely
[02:02] <JuJuBee> I need help with iptables.  Im a noob.  I have squid/dansguarding/iptables on a server. One computer is set to use the server as gateway and all works fine (blocking, filtering...).  I set a second computer to use the server as gateway and cannot http to google, but can ping it.
[02:02] <jann> hi. i'm having trouble with my power manager. there is the logo in the system tray, but it doesnt show the battery status. when i click on it, it opens but everything is gray and seems to be disabled. a while ago i did some acpi configuration with help of others here in the channel because (i thought) my fan wasnt working properly. the problem is that i dont know what we changed... any ideas how i can get back my power manager?
[02:02] <sayers> steven_: I think you fubar-ed it to where it'd be easier to start fresh
[02:03] <sayers> jann: Who made your computer?
[02:03] <smile> holastickboy: can i play NFS and GTA ?
[02:03] <holastickboy> smile: http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Page
[02:03] <holastickboy> smile: i dont know, i havent been current with cedega for some time now
[02:03] <steven_> i totally removed fglrx so will follow giude on the link you gave me
[02:04] <smile> holastickboy: ok .. thx a lot :-)
[02:04] <sayers> cedega should be free :(
[02:04] <jann> sayers: another problem, it was set together from different parts
[02:04] <sayers> jann: Hm, well I will find the link that fixed my fan problem
[02:05] <jann> sayers: cool, thanks
[02:05] <sayers> jann: Towards the very bottom
[02:05] <sayers> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75972
[02:05] <renato> hi, I am having a problem with all usb thum drives, as soon as I plug them in, Kubuntu (6.10) automatically mounts them, but they are all readonly...??
[02:06] <sayers> change its permissions ?
[02:06] <holastickboy> sayers: i would like cedega to be free too, but they do a lot of work and its only $5
[02:06] <sonoftheclayr> renato: what filesystem?
[02:06] <holastickboy> sayers: if u want a free cedega, try http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Page
[02:06] <sayers> holastickboy: is there a list of all the games it works for?
[02:06] <renato> I guess they are FAT, I can go and double check...
[02:06] <jann> sayers: i think lm-sensors was what i installed the last time. before, the power manager worked...
[02:07] <renato> this applies to everything from an USB key to a SD card... everything
[02:07] <renato> I never formatted them, but I would be surprised  if it was something else than FAT
[02:07] <sayers> holastickboy: you mean Wine?
[02:07] <renato> (a camera does nto handle NTFS)
[02:09] <sayers> jann: Run sudo pwmconfigure
[02:09] <jann> sayers: ok
[02:09] <holastickboy> sayers: well, cedega is slightly modified version of wine
[02:09] <jann> sayers: pwmconfigure: command not found
[02:09] <holastickboy> smile: sayers: here is a list of supported games for Cedega http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/
[02:09] <sayers> wait I might of typed it wrong
[02:10] <sayers> cedgea supoorts direct x and such not sure if wine does
[02:10] <smile> holastickboy: so cedega isnt free!
[02:10] <sayers> jann: sudo pwmconfig
[02:11] <sonoftheclayr> renato: well?
[02:11] <holastickboy> smile: not the binary version of Cedega, but the version that u can compile urself is,  http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/index.php/Main_Page
[02:11] <jann> sayers: same
[02:11] <jann> sayers: With PwManager you can easily manage your passwords. (?)
[02:11] <sayers> jann: sudo pwmconfig
[02:12] <sayers> exactly that
[02:12] <jann> sayers: pwmconfig: command not found
[02:12] <Ind[y] > What are the bad points of enabling Universe?
[02:12] <sayers> jann: did you use sudo and have you installed lm-sensors to check type sensors-detect or sensors
[02:13] <renato> sonoftheclayr: for some strange reason, now I can read and write from those thumb drives... this makes little sense
[02:13] <renato> me <- puzzled
[02:13] <sonoftheclayr> renato weird, im puzzled too
[02:13] <jann> sayers: i ran it in sudo, lm-sensors is not installed though. do i need to use the power manager?
[02:14] <sayers> jann: yes
[02:14] <jann> ok
[02:16] <jann> sayers: ok, now pwmconfig says this: /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[02:16] <jann> and sensors: Can't access procfs/sysfs file
[02:16] <sayers> jann: you have to run sudo for all this A and b you must run sudo sensors-detect first
[02:17] <jann> ok
[02:19] <jann> sayers: sensors-detect: Sorry, no chips were detected. (after answering yes everytime)
[02:19] <sayers> jann: none at all?
[02:19] <jann> sayers: thats what it says
[02:20] <jann> sayers: the only thing is: Client found at address 0x69
[02:20] <jann> on SMBus I801 adapter at 1400
[02:20] <sayers> Did it ask you to write that to a file?
[02:21] <jann> no
[02:21] <sayers> "Do you want to add these lines to /etc/modules automatically? (yes/NO)"
[02:21] <lotusleaf> I followed the instructions on the wiki on disabling ipv6, and while it is disabled, ntpd keeps saying in my daemon.log "modprobe: WARNING: Not loading blacklisted module ipv6" so somehow it thinks ipv6 is still enabled which it isn't, how may I fix this?
[02:21] <jann> sayers: seems that i didnt get to that question
[02:22] <sayers> jann: try it again make sure to use sudo. there has to be atleast ONE thing it finds or I have no clue how your computer is even on right now
[02:22] <soon> join #wireless
[02:24] <emil_p8> hello all
[02:24] <jann> sayers: Module `i2c-i801' already loaded.
[02:24] <jann> (running it agai)
[02:24] <jann> again
[02:25] <chemicalvamp> woot chroot feisty update is complete
[02:26] <sayers> jann: now type sensors -f if you use Ferinheit or sensors
[02:26] <sayers> chemicalvamp: i am doing that right now ;)
[02:27] <vio> !beryl
[02:27] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:27] <chemicalvamp> hehe i think mine may have been a lil more complex.. i dk tho
[02:27] <emil_p8> I have a problem with my edgy>feisty update. I get no more the desktop device icons, except if i mount them manually. BTW all my /dev/hd* became /dev/sd*. Any help?
[02:27] <chemicalvamp> nope mine was custom
[02:28] <sayers> What is the command to make somthing a .sh , what is the first line I mean, what does it have to import / include?
[02:28] <chemicalvamp> i didnt follow https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDistUpgrade
[02:28] <sayers> # !bin or somthing like that?
[02:28] <jann> sayers: Can't access procfs/sysfs file | Unable to find i2c bus information;
[02:28] <chemicalvamp> i dk, i had 2 gurus helpme
[02:28] <vio> fuck... i installed the "xorg-driver-fglrx" drivers ...
[02:29] <sayers> jann: oh wait you have to restart the computer so it loads the module
[02:29] <sayers> vio: uninstall them :S
[02:29] <vio> how?
[02:29] <jann> sayers: but i think i didnt change anything so far
[02:29] <sayers> vio: look further on the down the page
[02:29] <vio> k
[02:29] <jann> sayers: it just said "Module `i2c-i801' already loaded."
[02:29] <sayers> jann: I dont know it's worth a try
[02:29] <jann> ok
[02:29] <sayers> jann: You can pray
[02:29] <jann> ;)
[02:30] <chemicalvamp> sayers i had to mount -t none -o bind /tmp /mnt/hda1/tmp same with dev, proc, and var
[02:30] <jann> sayers: which file was it where the entries are written to?
[02:31] <sayers> jann: /etc/modules
[02:31] <sayers> chemicalvamp: heh
[02:31] <soon> My IBM T60 laptop has a bluetooth integrated. I can find it in the BIOS setup (its enabled), I can see it in #dmesg http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13654/ but I cannot find it anywhere else, such as lsusb http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/13638/  and finally hcitool dev is empty (no devices). Im STUCK !!!
[02:31] <chemicalvamp> sayers, by the way, i had feisty installed on hda1, only had internet on live cd
[02:32] <soon> I'm not having any luck and not much help - any BT gurus around?
[02:33] <chemicalvamp> sayers it was in total like a 10 hour ordeal
[02:34] <vio> i have succesfully installed beryl but i installed the wrong driver (xorg-driver-fglrx), i can uninstall it by: " sudo apt-get remove fglrx-kernel-source fglrx-kernel fglrx-kernel-$(uname -r) " what drivers do i then need to get the beryl working?
[02:35] <vio> yeah.. im a newbie
[02:35] <lotusleaf> vio, #ubuntu-effects may prove useful
[02:36] <Photon> hi
[02:36] <Photon> ive downloaded KDevelop on my desktop
[02:36] <Photon> how can i install it on Kubuntu?
[02:36] <vio> they seem not to answer
[02:37] <Photon> tell me Step By Step
[02:37] <lotusleaf> vio, repeat your question every 30 mins to 1 hr until they do :)
[02:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Is there no package for it in adept?
[02:37] <lotusleaf> vio, see also ubuntuforums.org
[02:37] <Photon> no....
[02:37] <Photon> please just tell me step by step
[02:37] <clemyeats> vio: did you try envy ?
[02:37] <vio> clemyeats, nope
[02:38] <MilhousePunkRock> did you search for a different repo that might have it, Photon?
[02:38] <clemyeats> Photon: try "sudo apt-get install kdevelop"
[02:38] <Photon> i tried..doesnt work....
[02:38] <clemyeats> vio: check "Alberto Milone"'s website on the internet. He's written envy 0.9.1 (with a GUI).. it downloads and installs the latest ATI/Nvidia drivers for your card.
[02:39] <vio> ah.. yeah.. heard about it.. but will it work with beryl?
[02:39] <Photon> how can i install a thing that i downloaded?????!?!?!??!?
[02:39] <clemyeats> Photon: you need to come with error messages, you can't just say "it didn't work".
[02:39] <Photon> .....
[02:39] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Basically untar, configure, make, make install
[02:39] <Photon> Reading package lists... Done
[02:39] <Photon> Building dependency tree
[02:39] <Photon> Reading state information... Done
[02:39] <Photon> E: Couldn't find package kdevelop
[02:39] <sayers> Photon: if you have to ask #irc for each question how are you going to catch your own fish
[02:39] <MilhousePunkRock> Anyone noticed when chemicalvamp left?
[02:40] <Photon> u happy?
[02:40] <clemyeats> yes
[02:40] <Photon> nice
[02:40] <clemyeats> and you ?
[02:40] <Photon> yep....
[02:40] <clemyeats> cool.. now you might not have the right repositories set up..
[02:40] <Photon> tell me step by step
[02:40] <linopil> \o
[02:40] <Photon> \o/
[02:41] <linopil> I installed ubuntu on MSvirtualPC2007
[02:41] <Eyeless> is there a handy app for synchronizing my laptop with my desktop-computer? (ie i want both computers to have the latest versions of the files in my work-folder)
[02:41] <Eyeless> prefably with the least possible amount of work :D
[02:41] <MilhousePunkRock> !info kdevelop
[02:41] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[02:41] <clemyeats> Photon: kdevelop is in the Ubuntu repositories, so it's just a matter of having these right. Can you check the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list file ?
[02:41] <Photon> installing an application in linux is really a pain...
[02:42] <sayers> Photon: Yep it sucks , now stop complaining and leave.
[02:42] <Eyeless> Photon: no it isnt :P
[02:42] <clemyeats> Photon: on the contrary, it's quite trivial.
[02:42] <Photon> am a linux noob, ive just installed it yesturaday...and now i want an IDE which is KDevelop
[02:42] <sayers> The problem is you cant read
[02:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: No, always use what your package manager offers. See, it is there, in universe. Just enable that and off you go
[02:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: If you don't know how to set up something from source, don't
[02:43] <sayers> Linux is more doccumented then anything you will ever see. use it to your advantage
[02:43] <Photon> people, just tell me how to install? thanks...
[02:43] <clemyeats> Photon: you need to uncomment the universe repository in your /etc/apt/sources.list, then update APT then you can install kdevelop.
[02:43] <Photon> how? step by step
[02:43] <Eyeless> Photon: go into aptitude, search for kdevelop, klick install and of you go
[02:43] <MilhousePunkRock> Eyeless: Tell me if you find something, would be a nice extra if it synched mails too...
[02:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Kubuntu I assume?
[02:44] <Photon> yup
[02:44] <clemyeats> Photon: you need basic knowledge about APT, Adept and repositories, let me find a tutorial.
[02:44] <Photon> step by step in numbers please
[02:44] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Click on the K in the lower left, click on system and there on adept manager
[02:45] <Photon> done
[02:45] <Eyeless> MilhousePunkRock: yep,  it could be done with some scripts and rsync, but thats more work than i want to do atm.
[02:45] <MilhousePunkRock> Eyeless: If you ever feel like creating it, let me know, I'd be the happiest guy to test it
[02:45] <renato> hi, I have tried to install ntfs-3g in order to install an external NTFS formatted drive. the posint is that, even when I have installed it, the new drive still gets recognised as of thype ntfs, at the opposite of fuse and it is still read only. Has anybody nay ewxperience with that?
[02:45] <Photon> whats next???...
[02:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Click on the adept menu, and "manage sources" or whatever sounds alike...
[02:46] <Photon> ok then...
[02:46] <sayers> Is there an alarm for the Terminal? I do not have acess to Apt right now
[02:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: I assume you are not on Feisty yet with the latest adept?
[02:47] <clemyeats> Photon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:47] <MilhousePunkRock> If so, someone else needs to tell you how to enable the universe repository, I see there were changes here so I cannot guide you step by step on this one
[02:48] <Photon> k nevermind forget it....
[02:48] <Photon> thanks anyway for the help
[02:48] <Photon> :)
[02:48] <Photon> bye
[02:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: It's simple, hang on
[02:49] <Photon> ...
[02:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Could someone with the old fashioned adept please tell Photon how to enable universe?
[02:49] <Photon> i have downloaded the new kubuntu yesturday...
[02:49] <clemyeats> Photon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu (isn't that guide good enough ?)
[02:50] <Photon> i have adept 2.1
[02:50] <clemyeats> oh...
[02:50] <clemyeats> well I can guide you through the command line.
[02:50] <Photon> thx
[02:50] <keyo> Hi, do any of you know about tv capture cards
[02:50] <MilhousePunkRock> clemyeats: Probably not...
[02:50] <clemyeats> Photon: you need to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:50] <renato> hi, anybody knows how to use ntfs-3g?
[02:50] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: 2.1 Cruiser? That sounds like mine...
[02:50] <MilhousePunkRock> renato: What do you need to know?
[02:51] <Photon> yup
[02:51] <Photon> 2.1 cruiser
[02:51] <MilhousePunkRock> renato: IIRC you run it as a module and it enables you to mount NTFS drives with write access
[02:51] <renato> well, I have installed it using apt-get, but my drives are still type ntfs (and readonly) unstead of fuse
[02:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Did you find that "manage sources"?
[02:51] <renato> what is the module name supposed to be?
[02:52] <Photon> manage repositories...
[02:52] <MilhousePunkRock> renato: Honestly, I don't know, I have never added any modules manually to Kubuntu
[02:52] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Great, click on it, what does it bring up
[02:52] <Photon> links..
[02:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: See, your adept is older than mine. Nevertheless, do you see anything greyed out?
[02:53] <Photon> yep
[02:54] <Photon> comments
[02:54] <MilhousePunkRock> should be a complete line, containing universe
[02:54] <Photon> yup found that
[02:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Highlight it and click enable at the bottom
[02:55] <Photon> there are two links: dep and dep-src
[02:55] <Photon> i mean deb*
[02:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Take both of them. I assume the -src will get the source codes for you too. Won't harm
[02:56] <Photon> ok done enabled them both
[02:56] <Photon> now...
[02:56] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Now click on that green arrow circle that says "Get updates"
[02:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Or whatever it is
[02:57] <Photon> clicked..
[02:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: That's gonna take a moment, after that, you can search for kdevelop in that search field
[02:57] <Photon> ok :D
[02:58] <MilhousePunkRock> Most likely a warning sign will show up next to the clock, telling you there are updates
[02:58] <Photon> yup
[02:58] <Photon> ill Full Upgrade
[02:59] <Photon> but i still didnt find Kdevelop i searched
[02:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: So you did not click on apply after you enabled universe?!?!
[03:00] <Photon> ops...hehe
[03:00] <crazy_bus> is there a quick way to convert multiple images into tiff images?
[03:00] <Photon> sorry... :P now checking for updates
[03:01] <grunt> hi there
[03:01] <malcher> hi i want to install alsa, but i need it with the option --with-cards=intel8x0... how can i say this to adept?
[03:02] <Photon> hi grunt
[03:02] <malcher> or, generally spoken... how can i give adept a flag?
[03:02] <grunt> im having problem with kubuntu installer. it refuses to detect my sata2 hdd
[03:02] <Photon> MilhousePunkRock: hes the man
[03:03] <grunt> i dl-ed latest dvd installer, i'd really like to use it :/
[03:03] <MilhousePunkRock> malcher: Adept does not compile stuff
[03:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Working now?
[03:04] <Photon> still downloading...
[03:04] <malcher> i know MilhousePunkRock.. but is it possible with which flags the packages from adept where compiled MilhousePunkRock?
[03:04] <malcher> +to see :D
[03:04] <MilhousePunkRock> malcher: Probably, but I wouldnt know how
[03:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: But you found kdevelop by now?
[03:04] <Photon> wait...
[03:05] <malcher> okay.. but thanks anyway... i accidently uninstalled my alsa ans since that it doesn't work anymore.. even if i reinstall it..
[03:05] <Photon> YAY Found it
[03:05] <malcher> but as it worked before, i'm convinced the packages offered by adept are configured for my soundcard
[03:06] <Photon> i should download kdevelop3? or just kdevelop?
[03:06] <Photon> THANKS A BILLION MilhousePunkRock
[03:07] <malcher> hm, it seems my system is missing the right module, i see...
[03:07] <grunt> anyone had problems with sata2 and kubuntu installer?
[03:07] <malcher> grunt: sry, i use pata on my laptop :/
[03:08] <grunt> worth to notice that some other distros fail the same way as well
[03:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: You are welcome... Since you just started, time to get familiar with the wiki, it will have answers to most of your questions... Always try to install stuff from adept/apt-get
[03:08] <Photon> okay... :D :D :D
[03:08] <sh4rk0> hello
[03:09] <Photon> hello sh4rk0
[03:09] <Photon> how are you
[03:10] <sh4rk0> fine thk you. And you Photon ??
[03:11] <Photon> am good :D
[03:12] <Photon> MilhousePunkRock: ive just started using linux but not computers ;P
[03:13] <Photon> ;)
[03:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: Yeah, I figured that. Downloading an "installer" and installing it is really the windows-way.
[03:13] <MilhousePunkRock> Photon: What you got was probably a tarball of the source code, sure you could have compiled it yourself, but it's not something I would recommend to begin with.
[03:14] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp!
[03:14] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock hey
[03:15] <sh4rk0> #kubuntu fr ?
[03:15] <MilhousePunkRock> !fr
[03:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:15] <sh4rk0> merci
[03:15] <chemicalvamp> MilhousePunkRock well im all updated, but still dont have a wireless card
[03:16] <chemicalvamp> what did we do in chroot that fixed the internet?
[03:16] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: so you are live again?
[03:16] <chemicalvamp> yup
[03:17] <MilhousePunkRock> chemicalvamp: Well, the resolv.conf should still be there. And even if not, that can't be the reason why your card isnt there
[03:17] <Photon> ok i gtg Thanks MilhousePunkRock for all the help :D
[03:17] <Photon> bye...
[03:17] <chemicalvamp> i checked that, it didnt chage
[03:18] <jann> sayers: back again. another guess: acpi gives me "No support for device type: battery" could it be that the battery module is not loaded? what would i have to do to load it manually?
[03:18] <chemicalvamp> #ubuntu+1
[03:18] <MilhousePunkRock> rc-update battery add, jann
[03:18] <neonlinux> hi all
[03:18] <neonlinux> whats the wrapper used to make gtk apps look like kde apps in kubuntu?
[03:18] <MilhousePunkRock> if things work like that in kbuntu too
[03:19] <jann> MilhousePunkRock: i didnt understand that
[03:19] <jann> is that a command line?
[03:19] <MilhousePunkRock> on a shell, type "rc-update battery add default"
[03:19] <jann> ah ok
[03:19] <MilhousePunkRock> jann: Not sure if that works though
[03:20] <jann> MilhousePunkRock: rc-update: command not found
[03:20] <MilhousePunkRock> jann: maybe with a sudo infront
[03:20] <jann> MilhousePunkRock: nope...
[03:20] <MilhousePunkRock> jann: OK, things roll differently here then...
[03:21] <jann> ;)
[03:23] <jann> anybody else
[03:23] <jann> ?
[03:26] <malcher> jann: in kubuntu, it is calles update-rc.d
[03:26] <malcher> rc-update is gentoo (at least it is implemented in gentoo)
[03:26] <jann> ah
[03:26] <malcher> see the help/man page for further instructions
[03:27] <jann> malcher: but this has to do with acpi?
[03:28] <malcher> i don't know... i just saw you weren't finding rc-update :)
[03:28] <malcher> but sry, i have to go now :/
[03:29] <jann> ok, thanks
[03:29] <roux> hi
[03:29] <roux> nessuno parla italiano?
[03:31] <ubuntu__> hallo
[03:31] <MilhousePunkRock> !it > roux
[03:33] <roux> ciao amici kubuntisti
[03:34] <jann> #kubuntu-de
[03:34] <jann> oops
[03:35] <DJAnubis> man
[03:35] <gissi> Good day all. Anyone had problems with Kontact on Feisty? I'm using IMAP and every now and then I get some of my messages are being showed as "No Subject" but using a webmail for example I can read no problem.
[03:36] <DJAnubis> I wonder if that bug that I found last night got reported
[03:36] <grego_> my all screensavers dissapeared from screensaver options...
[03:37] <grego_> which package can be responsible for this?
[03:37] <gissi> Both subject and body are empty on Kontact by displayed on webmail (roundcube)
[03:37] <VincentMX> hi
[03:37] <grego_> anyone?
[03:37] <DJAnubis> hello!
[03:38] <DJAnubis> Konqueror has trouble with php download scripts, as those on http://www.filefront.com reflect
[03:39] <Mena>  WHen i do route flush i get (NOt SUPPorettd)
[03:39] <DJAnubis> that needs to be fixed, but I'm going to use ff now
[03:39] <Mena> Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
[03:40] <PhinnFort> DJAnubis: file a bug
[03:40] <Mena>  :(  :(  :(  :(  :(
[03:40] <linopil> has anyone succeded doing DVD repos for fast app installing?
[03:40] <PhinnFort> Mena: stfu, and explain, mkay? ;)
[03:41] <DJAnubis> PhinnFort: where can I do that?/
[03:41] <JuJuBee> Can anybody here assist me with some basic iptables config?  #iptables is dormant...
[03:41] <PhinnFort> DJAnubis: either at bugs.launchpad.net or bugs.kde.org
[03:41] <DJAnubis> crap
[03:41] <DJAnubis> I have no time, I'm about to leave for florida
[03:41] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: i messed with iptables some time ago, but I don't know more than what is in the man page
[03:42] <Mena> ok , it i had a problem on my conection on linux and i do some commands and then when i do route flush to reset every thing its says NOT SUPPORTED
[03:42] <PhinnFort> DJAnubis: maybe ask someone in #kde to do it?
[03:42] <Mena> i needed to reset and clear bec i had an error
[03:42] <JuJuBee> PhinnFort : if you were successful, then that is more than me...
[03:42] <Mena> So
[03:43] <PhinnFort> Mena: sure you're flushing the right interface?
[03:43] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: i was not succesfull, but that was mainly because of a bad NIC
[03:43] <PhinnFort> :P
[03:43] <Mena> ohhh do i must do route flush eth0
[03:43] <JuJuBee> I have squid/dansguarding/iptables running on my server.  One of the workstations uses the server as its gateway successfully, but another does not.
[03:43] <Eyeless> MilhousePunkRock: Unison seems like the best program if you want to synchronize folders between computers
[03:43] <PhinnFort> Mena: maybe
[03:43] <PhinnFort> Mena: and remember sudo in front
[03:43] <Mena> ok
[03:44] <Mena> but if didnt work
[03:44] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: isn't that a problem with the client/workstation
[03:44] <Mena> what the heck i suppoded to do ?
[03:44] <Mena> s*
[03:44] <Mena> reinstall kubuntu
[03:44] <Mena> ehhhhhhhh
[03:44] <JuJuBee> The workstation that is not successful can ping google.com but not http.
[03:44] <PhinnFort> Mena: reboot should do the same as route flush
[03:44] <PhinnFort> Mena: could you please explain a bit more?
[03:44] <JuJuBee> I am not blocking google.
[03:45] <Mena> heeeeehehe ok
[03:45] <PhinnFort> Mena: like how do you connect (dhcp, static ip, etc)
[03:45] <JuJuBee> I can access all web servers in the classroom, but nothing outside.
[03:45] <Mena> i usualy use static
[03:45] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: maybe use Wireshark/KSniffer to see what happens
[03:45] <Mena> let me tell you i will try the command and if didnt work i will come ok
[03:45] <PhinnFort> Mena: ok
[03:46] <Mena> bec its a bout 10 hours or more more to solve this prolem
[03:46] <Mena> beleive me
[03:46] <JuJuBee> PhinnFort : I will look into them.
[03:46] <Mena> i am not kedding
[03:46] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: good luck :)
[03:46] <Mena> BRB
[03:46] <JuJuBee> PhinnFort : Do I install those on server?
[03:47] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: depends
[03:47] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: you should, to see what passes through
[03:47] <linopil> has anyone succeded doing DVD repos for fast app installing?
[03:47] <PhinnFort> !repeat
[03:47] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:47] <PhinnFort> !botsnack
[03:47] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:48] <PhinnFort> !iptables | JuJuBee
[03:48] <ubotu> JuJuBee: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:49] <PhinnFort> JuJuBee: look there too
[03:49] <Daisuke_Ido> so when is the re-merged beryl-compiz going to be added to the feisty repos?  (i'm guessing once they get a package together)
[03:49] <PhinnFort> Daisuke_Ido: when they release a merged package maybe?
[03:49] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, but sometimes it takes a while longer than that :)
[03:49] <PhinnFort> Daisuke_Ido: i don't think they've even decided on a name
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> no matter
[03:50] <hub_> hi
[03:50] <In[d] y> How do I set root's password for MySQL?
[03:50] <PhinnFort> !hi | hub_
[03:50] <ubotu> hub_: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[03:50] <PhinnFort> !mysql
[03:50] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[03:50] <hub_> :)
[03:50] <Daisuke_Ido> Coryl :)
[03:50] <PhinnFort> hub_: ;)
[03:51] <hub_> I installed Kubuntu is this beter than ubuntu ????
[03:51] <PhinnFort> hub_: in my humble opinion, yes
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> better is subjective, but if you prefer kde over gnome, you'll probably enjoy it more
[03:51] <Daisuke_Ido> i know i do
[03:51] <PhinnFort> hub_: the difference between plain ubuntu and Kubuntu, is that Kubuntu comes with KDE as default
[03:52] <PhinnFort> and KDE is, as everyone should know by now, superior
[03:52] <hub_> i have no Programs in very litle "Add/remove Program" who can i find a good source list ???????
[03:52] <PhinnFort> hub_: use Adept manager or something instead
[03:52] <PhinnFort> it's under "SYstem" i think
[03:52] <jann> can i uninstall and reinstall acpi without problems?
[03:53] <hub_> *sry for my bad englisch > wat is adept
[03:53] <PhinnFort> hub_: Adept is the package manager for Kubuntu
[03:53] <PhinnFort> jann: you should
[03:53] <hub_> hmm i look
[03:53] <PhinnFort> jann: can't think of a reason it shouldn't work, if you do it without rebooting
[03:54] <PhinnFort> hub_: you can always hit alt+f2 and type in "kdesu adept_manager"
[03:54] <hub_> ok
[03:55] <hub_> okay but i installed from a kubuntu "CD"
[03:55] <hub_> not DVD
[03:55] <PhinnFort> hub_: ...and?
[03:55] <dromer_> hi all, I just got my external usb-case and put a sata disk in it, connected it and it showes up in lsusb, but no automount, could it be I have the pins set wrong? (should be to master I think)
[03:55] <hub_> and wen i add  a programs then is litle bit there
[03:55] <hub_> by ubuntu is very viel.
[03:55] <hub_> more*
[03:56] <jann> PhinnFort: ok, thanks
[03:56] <PhinnFort> hub_: what do you mean?
[03:56] <PhinnFort> hub_: i'm sorry, my main language isn't english
[03:56] <PhinnFort> !no
[03:56] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[03:56] <hub_> wat do you speak ?
[03:57] <PhinnFort> hub_: norwegian
[03:57] <hub_> German ?
[03:57] <PhinnFort> :D
[03:57] <hub_> :(
[03:57] <hub_> ^^
[03:57] <jann> hub_: do you speak german?
[03:57] <hub_> yes
[03:57] <jann> -> #kubuntu-de
[03:57] <hub_> okay thx
[03:59] <SlimG> My 3Com 3crusb20075 wireless usb dongle won't work out-of-box with kubuntu beta install althou the wiki says it should work, it uses the zd1211 driver, anyone got a clue on what I have to do to make it work (ndiswrapper?)?
[04:00] <PhinnFort> !ndiswrapper
[04:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:00] <PhinnFort> SlimG: you on amd64?
[04:00] <hub_> bay bay ^^
[04:01] <SlimG> PhinnFort: i386
[04:01] <PhinnFort> hub_: bye;)
[04:01] <PhinnFort> ok