[12:00] <trin> well im quite happy with breezy (ji everyone ;))
[12:00] <seethru> Dreamglider: and presumably during the install it installed the bootloader ontop of the current grub?
[12:00] <GDorn> plus, new windows keep getting drawn split half and half between my two monitors
[12:00] <steve_> seethru: smeg eh?  I shall have to give it a try, thank you again.
[12:00] <delltony> question when installing kubuntu breezy i get the following error can't install initd tools. I installed winblows first on one partition and left the rest of the hd unallocated and went to install breezy on there this is how i'm having the issue when trying to install the base system.
 any help would be great (or ideas i should say) i'm on another computer but taking notes and ideas
[12:00] <Dreamglider> seethru, i belive so yes
[12:01] <[LethAL] > Could someone explain how to use GMailFS? I edieted the conf and ran the script and a) It doesn't know where to mount and b) It doesn't login
[12:01] <Kira> 9 days to go, yay!
[12:01] <larsrohdin> Kira, to?
[12:01] <Pickle_Weasel> ok i am still getting an error when i try to do anything in synaptic saying E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:01] <[LethAL] > Breezy!
[12:01] <Pickle_Weasel> does anyone know what the problem could be?
[12:01] <[LethAL] > Even though it's 10 here
[12:02] <larsrohdin> oh, =)
[12:02] <Kira> =)
[12:02] <seethru> Dreamglider: hmm I'll see if I can dig anything up for you, never had that problem myself
[12:02] <Belutz> 8 days to go =)
[12:02] <[LethAL] > Anyone know about my GMailFS problem?
[12:02] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: shut off all your apt processes
[12:02] <Pickle_Weasel> how?
[12:02] <jcurry> is there something i can apt-get so that firefox prints normally, instead of giving me the postscript interpreter message?
[12:02] <Pickle_Weasel> killall apt?
[12:02] <Dreamglider> thanks a lot mate
[12:03] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: poll all your windows and programs and shut off all apt, synaptic, aptitude etc
[12:03] <floor_16> hey all, I've enabled backports in my sources.list file, however it doesn't seem to have all the files I'm looking for in the repositories, including azureus. Any suggestions?
[12:03] <ompaul> [LethAL] , it is 11 pm
[12:03] <Pickle_Weasel> ok, all i had open was synaptic
[12:03] <tristanmike> floor_16, azureus is in the "extras"
[12:03] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: killall dpkg
[12:03] <Pickle_Weasel> i closed it
[12:03] <[LethAL] > ompaul, same here... that doesn't help with my problem
[12:03] <floor_16> tristanmike: what do i have to do to access the extras?
[12:03] <Pickle_Weasel> dpkg: no process killed
[12:04] <StylusEater> killall -9
[12:04] <ghb> propagandhi: I think it's possible to enable DMA mode using hdparm, but I'm not sure how to set it; only get it.
[12:04] <nalioth> Pickle_Weasel: then i reckon you got em all
[12:04] <tristanmike> floor_16, you need to add them to your sources.list
[12:04] <Mustard5> !backports
[12:04] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:04] <Pickle_Weasel> no i just got it
[12:04] <Pickle_Weasel> sudo killall apt did it i think
[12:04] <Mustard5> follow those directions above from ubotu floor_16
[12:04] <Pickle_Weasel> no >.>
[12:04] <floor_16> ubotu: i've already done that.
[12:04] <ubotu> Not a clue, floor_16
[12:04] <Mustard5> uboto is a bot
[12:05] <hajiki> ghb, propagandhi hdparm -d1 /dev/hda tunrs in on
[12:05] <Pickle_Weasel> no, same problem still =\
[12:05] <floor_16> As i said mustard5, i've already added the backports to my sources.list
[12:05] <tristanmike> floor_16, did you "uncomment" the lines?
[12:05] <floor_16> of course
[12:05] <Mustard5> soz
[12:05] <grayman> ubotu: what is the meaning of life?
[12:05] <ubotu> grayman: what are you talking about?
[12:05] <floor_16> how do i access the EXTRAS
[12:05] <grayman> aha
[12:05] <ghb> hajiki: Does'nt work.
[12:05] <Mustard5> hehe grayman
[12:05] <tristanmike> floor_16, and updated and reloaded synaptic?
[12:06] <hajiki> ghb, do you get an error?
[12:06] <ghb> hajiki: I get the help menu...
[12:06] <floor_16> i'm just using apt
[12:06] <floor_16> straight up
[12:06] <hajiki> ghb, are you root?
[12:06] <tristanmike> floor_16, no need to use caps, you have several people trying to help
[12:06] <floor_16> but yes, i've performed an update
[12:06] <Mustard5> use apt-get updatedb then floor_16
[12:06] <Dreamglider> ok i just tried to boot and i got a "error 17"
[12:06] <floor_16> will try that
[12:06] <floor_16> thanks
[12:06] <ghb> hajiki: Using sudo, it should work, correct?
[12:06] <Dreamglider> GRUB Loading satge1.5.
[12:06] <hajiki> ghb, yes
[12:07] <Dreamglider> Grub Loading, please wait...
[12:07] <Dreamglider> Error 17
[12:07] <ghb> hajiki: What does the 'l' option do?
[12:07] <Pickle_Weasel> !sources
[12:07] <ubotu> it has been said that sources is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969 (Hoary) or http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2325 (Breezy)
[12:07] <hajiki> ghb, its a number one not a letter L
[12:07] <Pickle_Weasel> =\
[12:07] <[LethAL] > !tell Dreamglider about grub
[12:07] <floor_16> Mustard5, apt-get updatedb produces a syntax error.
[12:07] <[LethAL] > Dreamglider, read the windows-specifc page
[12:07] <ghb> hajiki: Oh. That explains it. =)
[12:08] <kangpeh> how do you get rid of the brown color in gdm login and such?
[12:08] <ghb> hajiki: *yaaaaaaay*
[12:08] <hajiki> ghb, but the 1 means 'on'
[12:08] <kairu_> hi. xfce crashed once and the next time i tried to login with GDM it said that my .gmrc file had wrong permissions and then I click OK and I cant get to the desktop. any ideas?
[12:08] <nalioth> Mustard5: apt-get updatedb?
[12:08] <trunks> hi
[12:08] <camilotelles> laptop guys, I will buy a new notebook. what brand model is best for ubuntu support? i looking for an HP nc series. good choice?
[12:08] <hajiki> ghb, did that work for you
[12:08] <nalioth> floor_16: it's "sudo apt-get update"
[12:08] <trunks> i need some help please
[12:09] <nalioth> camilotelles: find the one on HPs site that comes with ubuntu
[12:09] <ghb> hajiki: Indeed it did. =)
[12:09] <trunks> i ve got a pb with cmake
[12:09] <trunks> c++ was not found in your path
[12:09] <floor_16> yes, i've already done that, thanks nalioth
[12:09] <hajiki> ghb, great!
[12:09] <ghb> hajiki: Thanks a lot!
[12:09] <nalioth> trunks: install "build-essential"
[12:09] <trunks> i can t understand
[12:09] <hajiki> no problem
[12:09] <hajiki> trunks, did you install build-essential  ?
[12:09] <tristanmike> floor_16, you did search via synaptic and it's not there either?
[12:09] <floor_16> !backports
[12:09] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[12:09] <camilotelles> nalioth, I think that only HP in europe is doing that. I'm looking to HP in US
[12:09] <N6REJ> HEEEEEEEEEEEELP.... I'm being acostted by a hedgehog!
[12:10] <kangpeh> !color
[12:10] <ubotu> kangpeh: Do they come in packets of five?
[12:10] <trunks> thanks hajiki
[12:10] <nalioth> camilotelles: not sure than (the models are the same in europa)
[12:10] <kangpeh> !system color
[12:10] <ubotu> kangpeh: Bugger all, i dunno
[12:10] <kangpeh> :O
[12:10] <N6REJ> its stuck in a update screen.
[12:10] <cake-fork> !42
[12:10] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, cake-fork
[12:10] <trunks> it works now
[12:10] <trunks> thank you so much
[12:11] <nalioth> kangpeh: ask your question to the channel
[12:11] <kbrooks> cake-fork: don't play with ubotu. ;)
[12:11] <rsm> camilotelles: I am using the nx7000 (x1000) an old model now but works perfectly specially the 1680x1050 resolution.
[12:11] <kbrooks> or me, cake-fork
[12:11] <N6REJ> can someone PLEASE help me finish getting ubuntu hoary installed?
[12:11] <trunks> what s for built essential?
[12:11] <GDorn> does alsa work better in breezy?  because I'm at wit's end, here
[12:12] <kbrooks> i want to dock xchat
[12:12] <kbrooks> howe to do this
[12:12] <evan> pi
[12:12] <evan> what is pi
[12:12] <[LethAL] > 3.141592...
[12:12] <evan> factoid: ubotu  is lame
[12:12] <[LethAL] > !pi
[12:12] <nalioth> trunks: build-essential contains a nice lot of compiling software
[12:13] <[LethAL] > :P
[12:13] <hajiki> N6REJ, what seems to be your problem?
[12:13] <nalioth> [LethAL] : be civil
[12:13] <biezt_linux> how do i uninstall .htaccess ?
[12:13] <biezt_linux> i can't find it anywhere :|
[12:13] <[LethAL] > nalioth, ?
[12:13] <N6REJ> its stuck in an update screen.  Can't seem to finish the updating
[12:13] <trunks> thanks a lot
[12:13] <ghb> propagandhi: Now it goes muh faster. Thanks for your help. And thanks to hajiki as well! Damn -- it goes so fast that it lags when I type. XD
[12:13] <biezt_linux> the file keeps existing even after i deleted dir and made it again :D
[12:13] <hajiki> N6REJ, you mean the update screen in GNOME?
[12:14] <seablue> sheesh..my old connection Mustard5 is taking ages to timeout
[12:14] <nalioth> biezt_linux: it will not go away, it is part of the system
[12:14] <silent_scream> i installed with easy ubuntu the nvidia drivers by mistake, because I had alredy them installed. how do i uninstall them?
[12:14] <GDorn> uh.  apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't get me breezy?
[12:14] <nalioth> GDorn: read the /topic
[12:14] <N6REJ> no, its not gnome, its after it installed and rebooted, and did a bunch of stuff... then it downloaded a list of updates, and initially had/has a problem with metacity.
[12:14] <N6REJ> some commands are u U i g q ?
[12:15] <kbrooks> Question: I want to dock xchat into gnome and hide it from view and when I activate it, it should ask me for a password to activate it
[12:15] <kbrooks> Ideas?
[12:15] <anthony> Hi, I messed something up with my system (I think by trying to make it hibernate incorrectly), and now my cdrom won't mount.  I think it's a sector issue (64 versus 16), and I need to know how to correct it.
[12:15] <hajiki> N6REJ, hmmm... that just took a very long time for me. are you on dial-up or on cable/dsl ?
[12:15] <floor_16> tristanmike. doesn't work via synaptic or via apt
[12:15] <nalioth> kbrooks: get to coding
[12:15] <biezt_linux> so can any1 help me make password protection ???
[12:15] <N6REJ> I was on the phone and typing at the same time.. I'm on dsl
[12:15] <floor_16> should i pastebin my sources.list file?
[12:15] <cake-fork> kbrooks: use screen and a console irc client instead
[12:15] <biezt_linux> i keep looking at tutorials, but everything fails :|
[12:15] <kbrooks> cake-fork: No.
[12:15] <tristanmike> floor_16, that's odd, post your sources on paste..
[12:16] <kbrooks> I refuse to mix console and gui
[12:16] <hajiki> N6REJ, can you show me the last few lines that are on your console/display
[12:16] <hajiki> N6REJ, or describe them a bit
[12:16] <N6REJ> hmmmmmmmmmmmm..... let me think.
[12:16] <ghb> I really have to get used to typing and using the touchpad on a laptop -- it's so much different than using a regular PC. =D
[12:16] <kangpeh> nalioth:  Hi, how do I change the brown system color to black, silver, or whatnot?  (I.e., when I'm in the gdm login, the system color remains brown until I am logged in.)
[12:16] <GDorn> hope this works...  kinda last ditch before giving up for another couple years
[12:16] <cake-fork> kbrooks: where's the mix :-) there's no gui.
[12:16] <anthony> Here is the text of the error:  anthony@anthonyyarusso:~$ mount /media/cdrom0
[12:16] <anthony> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0,
[12:16] <anthony>        missing codepage or other error
[12:16] <anthony>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:16] <anthony>        dmesg | tail  or so
[12:16] <anthony> anthony@anthonyyarusso:~$ dmesg | tail
[12:16] <anthony> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 926764
[12:16] <anthony> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 926540
[12:16] <anthony> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 927780
[12:16] <anthony> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 926756
[12:16] <anthony> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 926532
[12:17] <anthony> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 1248
[12:17] <anthony> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 1024
[12:17] <grayman> omg
[12:17] <tristanmike> and anthony is.......
[12:17] <kbrooks> kangpeh: Please don't ask specific persons for help
[12:17] <anthony> UDF-fs: No partition found (1)
[12:17] <biezt_linux> can any1 help me ?
[12:17] <grayman> dont paste it here
[12:17] <tristanmike> gone
[12:17] <kangpeh> kbrooks:  My apologies.
[12:17] <N6REJ> the menubar is blue, it has orange lined urls and green lined urls.  The green ones say blah,blah,blah [Hit]  and the orange ones say blah blah blah [Installed]
[12:17] <nalioth> kangpeh: system > prefs > themes
[12:17] <kbrooks> kangpeh: Instead, ask the whole channel.
[12:17] <silent_scream> i installed with easy ubuntu the nvidia drivers by mistake, because I had alredy them installed. how do i uninstall them?
[12:17] <nalioth> silent_scream: synaptic
[12:18] <kangpeh> System->Pref->Themes changes the colors of the user logged in.
[12:18] <hajiki> N6REJ, does it ask you to type Y or No and then Enter?
[12:18] <N6REJ> then it has a msgbox that says downloading 3b in 1s2b/b
[12:18] <kangpeh> However, I want to change the theme colors in the gdm itself :|
[12:18] <N6REJ> no
[12:18] <N6REJ> just says OK
[12:18] <nalioth> biezt_linux: dont msg me please
[12:18] <floor_16> tristanmike: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2771
[12:18] <cake-fork> kangpeh: change the gdm theme?
[12:18] <biezt_linux> oops
[12:18] <N6REJ> if I hit ok, I get a black screen with blue borders and menus
[12:18] <biezt_linux> thought u knwe it
[12:18] <hajiki> N6REJ, seems like the mirror might have stopped responding. i guess you could try aborting and starting it again manually
[12:19] <N6REJ> how?
[12:19] <nalioth> biezt_linux: far more people are in here
[12:19] <tristanmike> floor_16, ok, you didn't add the extras, what makes you think you did?
[12:19] <biezt_linux> well u answered ;)
[12:19] <silent_scream> nalioth, any other way???
[12:19] <floor_16> I never thought i did
[12:19] <biezt_linux> sorry :(
[12:19] <tristanmike> and you have some stuff "commented"
[12:19] <floor_16> I asked how to add them!
[12:19] <hajiki> ctrl+c
[12:19] <floor_16> is it just 'extras' in the same line?
[12:19] <biezt_linux> so how do i get ridd of .htaccess ?
[12:19] <kangpeh> nalioth:  Do you think Mr. Shuttleworth would be willing to invest in a project of mine that I am working on?
[12:19] <nalioth> silent_scream: if it isnt visible in synaptic, you may have trouble
[12:20] <biezt_linux> not by deleting it, so there must be a way to putt it of ?
[12:20] <delltony> anyone know what it means when i can't install initd tools when trying to install breeze?
[12:20] <Belutz> biezt_linux, maybe you could ask in #apache ?
[12:20] <nalioth> kangpeh: visit www.markshuttleworth.com and see
[12:20] <floor_16> tristanmike: do i need to uncomment anything?
[12:20] <tristanmike> !tell floor_16 about extras
[12:20] <kangpeh> nalioth:  Yes, sir.  Thank you. =)
[12:20] <anthony> Okay, so I'm back, if you'd like to add an explanation to that.
[12:20] <Gorth> hey ya'll, does anyone know a good tab viewer (for guitar and banjo tabs) on ubuntu??
[12:21] <tristanmike> floor_16, got here, use this sources.list for Hoary
[12:21] <nalioth> anthony: please dont paste in here, use #flood or a pastebin
[12:21] <anthony> What are those?
[12:21] <N6REJ> hajiki: I can see a list of packages that it wants to install but I don't know how to tell it to "GO"
[12:21] <kennethlove> "y'all" not "ya'll"
[12:21] <tristanmike> !tell anthony about pastebin
[12:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell anthony about pastebin
[12:21] <hajiki> N6REJ, hit Y and then Enter
[12:22] <tristanmike> ooops, sorry nalioth ;)
[12:22] <Gorth> kennethlove, i'm from texas and we do either way!
[12:22] <floor_16> tristanmike: many thanks
[12:22] <Mustard5_> !pastebin
[12:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:22] <tristanmike> floor_16, the extras are the last line, uncomment
[12:22] <kbrooks> bbl
[12:22] <floor_16> saw that, thanks
[12:22] <Mustard5_> ah ok..I didnt know that
[12:22] <tristanmike> floor_16, ok, np
[12:22] <kennethlove> Gorth: i'm from oklahoma (arkansas, now). and it's a combination of "you" and "all",so there's really only one way to do it. :)
[12:23] <Gorth> ya + all?!
[12:23] <N6REJ> its extracting packages from templates, I had to hit i, g, enter
[12:23] <nalioth> texas grammer can be discussed in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[12:23] <N6REJ> *confused*
[12:23] <kennethlove> i guess "ya'll" is better than "y'all" or "yall" or "yal'l"
[12:23] <Gorth> sorry nalioth :X
[12:23] <kosiidina> anyone know what i do with the directx patch for wine after i've downloaded it from sourceforge?
[12:23] <biezt_linux> how do i uninstall apache
[12:23] <biezt_linux> with apt-uninstall ?
[12:24] <Gorth> so does anyone know of any music tab viewrs?
[12:24] <kennethlove> biezt_linux: you could give apt-get remove apache a try.
[12:24] <Gorth> like tefviewer, but on ubuntu :(
[12:24] <cevizoglu> biezt_linux, apt-remove
[12:24] <nalioth> biezt_linux: use synaptic
[12:24] <cake-fork> Gorth: search with synaptic
[12:24] <tristanmike> synaptic
[12:24] <cevizoglu> biezt_linux, oops, nevermind
[12:24] <hajiki> N6REJ, oh... it just wanted you to confirm some of those upgrades incase you had done manual changes to some of the configuration files its replacing
[12:24] <hajiki> N6REJ, i is for install
[12:24] <N6REJ> nah, its a clean install
[12:25] <N6REJ> least is supposed to be LOL
[12:25] <cevizoglu> can the ubuntu installer resize ntfs partitions
[12:25] <cevizoglu> ?
[12:25] <hajiki> gnu parted can
[12:25] <nalioth> cevizoglu: yes
[12:25] <cevizoglu> excellent :)
[12:25] <N6REJ> hajiki: its still working, I'll let you know when it says something meaningful
[12:26] <Mustard5_> finally my old nick times out
[12:26] <nalioth> Mustard: psst /msg nickserv help ghost
[12:26] <anthony> Okay, I used that: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2773.
[12:27] <Fr500> hi
[12:27] <Fr500> has anyone installed hula under ubuntu recently?
[12:27] <Mustard> doh..now its says my pass is wrong..grrrr
[12:27] <hajiki> N6REJ, okay, gl
[12:27] <nalioth> Mustard: you missing a number?
[12:27] <N6REJ> ty... I was unable to get breezy to install at all but hoary seems to be working well
[12:27] <Mustard> yeah..hehehe..it should be Mustard5 :P
[12:27] <Mustard> heheh
[12:28] <hajiki> breezy is working great for me as of the latest cd (colony 5)
[12:28] <Mustard5> bingo! :)
[12:28] <Navatiu> good job
[12:28] <nalioth> Mustard5: ask nickserv about ghost
[12:28] <cevizoglu> N6REJ, you might also consider upgrade to breezy with apt after you finish installing hoaru
[12:28] <Mustard5> k
[12:28] <cevizoglu> er, hoary
[12:28] <rawiramdhan> does any1 has problems with xmms? unstable etc.
[12:28] <N6REJ> ok.
[12:28] <biezt_linux> how do i uninstall apache 2.0 ??
[12:29] <biezt_linux> what is the command ?
[12:29] <rawiramdhan> sudo apt-get apache ?
[12:29] <biezt_linux> apt-remove
[12:29] <N6REJ> I'll let y'all know as soon as me'n adam get that far.  He's pretty lost w/o eve around :P
[12:29] <Fr500> hajiki, can ou tell me which version of hula is packaged with breezy?
[12:29] <rawiramdhan> sudo apt-get install apache:)
[12:29] <hajiki> Fr500, let me check
[12:29] <biezt_linux> no i want rid of it !!
[12:29] <rawiramdhan> owww:)  my bad
[12:29] <postgrado> hola
[12:29] <nalioth> rawiramdhan: use beep media player. it's a gtk2 fork of xmms
[12:30] <rawiramdhan> nalioth: also compatible with the skins from xmms?
[12:30] <kennethlove> biezt_linux: apt-get remove apache2
[12:30] <N6REJ> hajiki: it finished installing OO and said "hit return to continue" so I did and now I'm back to the blue screen again
[12:30] <nalioth> ghost is handy
[12:30] <hajiki> Fr500, Version: 0.1.0+svn162-2ubuntu1
[12:31] <Fr500> ok
[12:31] <hajiki> N6REJ, its just a blank blue screen?
[12:31] <N6REJ> yes with blue menu bar.  f10 gives me some options
[12:31] <rawiramdhan> nalioth: thanx:D installing it now
[12:31] <ReleaseX> if i put on the breezy pr what should my sources.list look like?
[12:32] <N6REJ> should I clear the package cache?
[12:32] <nalioth> ReleaseX: what they look like now, only with 'breezy' in place of 'hoary'
[12:32] <hajiki> N6REJ, dont think that will do much
[12:32] <biezt_linux> is the correct path home/biezt/htpasswd/.htpasswd ?? if it is in my home ?
[12:32] <N6REJ> *scratches head*
[12:32] <N6REJ> let me see if it will tell me anything more.
[12:32] <hajiki> N6REJ, what happens if you hit alt+ctrl+f1 and f2 and f3 etc
[12:33] <N6REJ> i get my tty's :D
[12:33] <hajiki> do you see any of them with anything usefull?
[12:33] <N6REJ> I'm on the primary tty right now
[12:33] <N6REJ> know.
[12:33] <N6REJ> no
[12:33] <Mustard5> what is a tty?
[12:34] <N6REJ> just the tty identier and logon
[12:34] <Mustard5> I never understand that term but its everywhere
[12:34] <N6REJ> Teletype termninal
[12:34] <N6REJ> lol
[12:34] <Mustard5> ah k :D
[12:34] <ReleaseX> malioth, thanks
[12:34] <cevizoglu> TeleTYpe
[12:34] <ReleaseX> nalioth, even the backports and extras?
[12:34] <N6REJ> should I just quit this blue thing somehow?
[12:35] <Mustard5> so how come modem connections have a tty bit in them?
[12:35] <nalioth> ReleaseX: there are no b/p or extras yet for breezy, so you can comment them out
[12:35] <N6REJ> i THINK its apget
[12:35] <N6REJ> s/apget/aptget/
[12:35] <Xenguy> apt-get
[12:35] <hajiki> N6REJ, might be a good idea not sure where you are at. i dont recollect ever having that screen your describing
[12:35] <ReleaseX> nalioth, ok thank you
[12:35] <anthony> Does anyone have any suggestions for that mounting issue?
[12:36] <hajiki> anthony, it might be a known issue with hibernating... have you tried rebooting?
[12:36] <ReleaseX> nalioth, so where do i get the stuff that was in extras?
[12:36] <N6REJ> *sigh* its not done!  "g" is the command to "finish all pending transactions" and I hit it 2x and there was more.
[12:36] <Xenguy> anthony: dunno.  google the errors?
[12:36] <N6REJ> so now its doing that.
[12:36] <anthony> Yes, it remains that way.  I could retry if you think it would help.
[12:36] <nalioth> ReleaseX: for now, you use what is on your system
[12:37] <biezt_linux> +
[12:37] <poofyhair> if I ever go to KDE, it will be because of luminocity
[12:37] <funkyHat> anyone at all familiar with xmove?
[12:38] <N6REJ> e: sub process /usr/bin/dpkg recieved a segmentation fault.    ACK! Something bad happend while installing packages.  Trying to recover:
[12:38] <N6REJ> RUT ROH!
[12:39] <hajiki> uh oh
[12:39] <hajiki> N6REJ, maybe you should start all over but with out having the computer pluged into the network
[12:40] <N6REJ> lol, ok.
[12:40] <stinko> Ciao
[12:40] <hajiki> N6REJ, i can show you how to manually upgrade once its up
[12:40] <floor_16> hey all, i'm trying to install azureus with apt, but i get the following error: Depends: sun-j2sdk1.5  but it is not installable or
[12:40] <floor_16>  	java2-runtime  but it is not installable
[12:40] <N6REJ> k
[12:40] <stinko> qualcuno mi pu dare un aiutino con mysql?
[12:40] <tristanmike> !tell floor_16 about java
[12:40] <Mustard5> !tell Mustard5 about java
[12:40] <hajiki> N6REJ, if you have any questions during the install feel free to ask me here or via pm
[12:40] <N6REJ> pm?
[12:40] <hajiki> private message
[12:41] <N6REJ> let me see if chatzilla will do that.
[12:41] <Cyay> haj
[12:41] <nalioth> stinko: vaya de el #ubuntu-es, por favor
[12:41] <libervisco> strange.. GNOME is freezing when I right click or load a specific SVG file in nautilus
[12:41] <libervisco> what gives
[12:41] <nalioth> Mustard5: it's /msg ubotu javadeb
[12:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell floor_16 about javadeb
[12:41] <Mustard5> uk
[12:41] <Mustard5> how would I know to put in javadeb?
[12:42] <Mustard5> hehe
[12:42] <Mustard5> is there a list?
[12:42] <anthony> hajiki: I think I'm going to try rebooting again.  Would it be better to do so with a CD in the drive or not, or does it not make a difference?
[12:42] <vladuz976> anybody know how to change input method in breezy?
[12:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Mustard5 about ubotu
[12:42] <tristanmike> nalioth, that's not the newest java
[12:42] <stinko> nalioth: veramente sono Italiano... comunque buona notte!
[12:42] <hajiki> anthony, shouldnt matter
[12:42] <anthony> Okay, here goes.
[12:42] <Drakeson> how can I install a newer kernel (2.6.13)
[12:43] <nalioth> stinko: mi disculpa, #ubuntu-it, por favor
[12:43] <stinko> ;-)
[12:43] <nalioth> Drakeson: that is an unstable kernel
[12:43] <nalioth> tristanmike: 1.5 isnt the newest?
[12:44] <tristanmike> nalioth, I thought there was a newer update, I may be mistaken
[12:44] <Mustard5> cool..I'm picking ubotu's brain ;)
[12:44] <Drakeson> yeah but I have some problems with my webcam (crashes the machine when v4l runs) so I thought it might be resolved in 2.6.13
[12:45] <org> hi all
[12:45] <nalioth> Drakeson: you're more likely to gather more probs with a testing kernel
[12:45] <totally_noob> I was trying to install flash plugins in firefox, it doesn't work, can someone help
[12:45] <Drakeson> btw it is strange that it worked under 2.6.9 and is broken in this version
[12:45] <Navatiu> evil version. :)
[12:46] <mwe> well on kernel.org <IP_ADDRESS> is listed as the latest stable kernel
[12:46] <nalioth> totally_noob: what hardware?
[12:46] <Drakeson> is there a chance that the problem is with the xorg v4l drivers?
[12:46] <totally_noob> nalioth, you want me to tell you all my hardwares?
[12:46] <kbrooks> So...
[12:47] <kbrooks> How do I create a template for a file?
[12:47] <Mustard5> I put in a PM to ubotu with keyword javadb and it asked me if I was smoking crack :)
[12:47] <kirbturd> hey
[12:47] <kbrooks> How do I create a template for a file?
[12:47] <kirbturd> wht up
[12:47] <totally_noob> nalioth,  i need to apt-get something?
[12:47] <nalioth> totally_noob: please tell the channel what version ubuntu and what hardware you are running
[12:47] <tristanmike> Mustard5, that's cause it's javadeb
[12:48] <thux> glxgears doesn't work how to see if my card work as well as it use to?
[12:48] <totally_noob> Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:48] <kirbturd> what dir do i put my packages in to install
[12:48] <Mustard5> haha doh
[12:48] <kirbturd> with apt-get
[12:48] <totally_noob> thats it
[12:48] <nalioth> kirbturd: you dont. use dpkg locally
[12:48] <kirbturd> neewb here
[12:49] <totally_noob> so
[12:49] <kirbturd> sorry
[12:49] <kbrooks> kirbturd: dont be sorry
[12:49] <kirbturd> okay im on the jux that u gotta dl the debian packages
[12:49] <kirbturd> then from root counsel install
[12:49] <kirbturd> with apt-get
[12:50] <kbrooks> kirbturd: no
[12:50] <kbrooks> with dpkg
[12:50] <kirbturd> how i us dpkg
[12:50] <funkyHat> kirbturd, dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:50] <kbrooks> dpkg -i /path/to/debian.file
[12:50] <amias> lo all
[12:50] <totally_noob> hi sir
[12:50] <amias> is it possible to get mga-vid-module from somewhere ?
[12:51] <amias> cant find it in breezy with uni and multiverses
[12:51] <amias> are there anymore repositories ?
[12:51] <cevizoglu> amias, yes
[12:52] <nalioth> amias: i show it in the repos
[12:52] <nalioth> amias: the standard repos
[12:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell amias about sources
[12:52] <oxez> which kernel is the best for an AMD Athlon XP 2600+? I saw the -k7 one, and on my motherboard box I see "GIGABYTE k7 Triton". I don't think it's related but I'm not sure :o
[12:52] <HrdwrBob> yes k7
[12:52] <kirbturd> error while processeing
[12:52] <oxez> I know I was using i686 on gentoo
[12:52] <nalioth> oxez: k7 or 686, you as a human wont see a difference
[12:53] <totally_noob> guys help me
[12:53] <kirbturd> okay im trying to get tor to work on my box
[12:53] <oxez> nalioth: but, will using k7 will fix some segfaults?
[12:53] <tristanmike> what's the purpose of k7, I also have an athelon?
[12:53] <nalioth> totally_noob: ask a question, dont " guys help me"
[12:53] <_chavo> how do you know he's a human?
[12:53] <oxez> I'm an android, of course
[12:53] <kirbturd> you know
[12:53] <totally_noob> nalioth, I asked it, you forget already? "I want to install flash,, so my firefox flash works"
[12:53] <nalioth> the k7 is optimized for amd architexture
[12:53] <kirbturd> i was wondering
[12:53] <_chavo> oh yeah, ubuntu is for humans :)
[12:53] <mgraybill> can someone please help me getting dvdrip installed?
[12:54] <kirbturd> right out of the box
[12:54] <oxez> nalioth: ok, thank you. So, if I install a new kernel do I have to reinstall the ATi driver and ALSA modules?
[12:54] <nalioth> totally_noob: you need to ask about every 5 minutes. "guys help me" doesnt inform those that may have joined or returned since you asked it
[12:54] <kirbturd> everyones screen name is their root local password right
[12:54] <oxez> right
[12:54] <mgraybill> can someone please help me getting dvdrip installed?
[12:54] <Kira> oxez: are you a male or female android?
[12:54] <totally_noob> nalioth, ok
[12:54] <caustictwin> what is a good usenet reader for linux?
[12:54] <oxez> Kira: both ;)
[12:55] <nalioth> kirbturd: have you tried #tor?
[12:55] <kirbturd> not yet
[12:55] <nalioth> caustictwin: try pan
[12:55] <_native_> i get permission denied when doing make-kpkg and make-kpkg clean, and yes i added myself to the src group. i would really like to not have to raise privs unless i have to.
[12:55] <nalioth> _native_: use sudo
[12:55] <mgraybill> how do I instal libdvdread?
[12:55] <nalioth> _native_: or fakeroot
[12:56] <_native_> your not suppose to have with fakeroot yes i have fakeroot
[12:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mgraybill about dvd
[12:56] <totally_noob> I have problem to mount the cdrom
[12:56] <_native_> thats why its weird
[12:57] <binary-boy> does anyone know if breezy will allow easy upgrade from hoary?
[12:57] <nalioth> binary-boy: apt-get is easy as pie
[12:57] <_native_> i have all i need in terms of packages.
[12:57] <kbrooks> binary-boy: all ubuntu versions do
[12:57] <binary-boy> cheers :)
[12:57] <feaces> hey
[12:57] <totally_noob> Do you guys recommend me to upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[12:58] <kbrooks> totally_noob: just wait
[12:58] <feaces> soooo
[12:58] <kbrooks> it works for me, might not work for you
[12:58] <Mustard5> totally_noob, wait for full release I would say
[12:58] <feaces> i like
[12:58] <luis> hello
[12:58] <binary-boy> looking forward to gnome menu editor :)
[12:58] <luis> alguien habla espaol?
[12:58] <feaces> feaces is my game
[12:58] <amias> cevizoglu, i just get 404's connecting to ubuntu backports from here (uk,phonecoop)
[12:58] <nalioth> !es
[12:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:59] <_native_> i like my breezy!
[12:59] <luis> ok
[12:59] <nalioth> feaces: take your game to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:59] <feaces> and i like my
[12:59] <luis> como entro a ubuntu-es
[12:59] <luis> ?
[12:59] <Mustard5> coud you set up a seperate kernel and do an upgrade to breezy on a test kernel?
[12:59] <Mustard5> channel split?
[01:00] <nalioth> luis: esta #ubuntu-es
[01:00] <_native_> so dose anyone know why i cant do a make-kpkg unless i sudo even though i have fakeroot installed and know how and when to use it.
[01:00] <_native_> ?
[01:00] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to enable sound in flash?
[01:00] <mylastmorning> ! flash
[01:00] <ubotu> flash is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:00] <nalioth> amias: backports are down atm
[01:00] <luis> gracias nalioth soy primerizo en esto
[01:00] <GDorn> is there something other than xinerama that I should be using to have two monitors active?  it's very frustrating, having new message windows pop up split between the displays
[01:00] <tristanmike> _native_, man fakeroot?
[01:00] <hajiki> luis, /join #ubuntu-es
[01:00] <kbrooks> Mustard5: No.
[01:01] <Kira> !prn
[01:01] <ubotu> Kira: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[01:01] <Mustard5> no?
[01:01] <kbrooks> Mustard5: the upgrade to breezy is global
[01:01] <Kira> !pr0n
[01:01] <ubotu> I don't know, Kira
[01:01] <Mustard5> oh
[01:01] <_native_> dude i know what im doing. !man me
[01:01] <Kira> :(
[01:01] <nalioth> !botabuse
[01:01] <ubotu> You can play with me on #debian-bots without being banned.
[01:01] <kbrooks> across your system
[01:01] <mgraybill> im actually trying to get dvdrip to install and have been now for about 5 hours
[01:01] <luis> como me brinco a ubunto-es
[01:01] <mgraybill> im new to Debian
[01:01] <kbrooks> mgraybill: debian or ubuntu?
[01:01] <nalioth> mgraybill: you may have to build some programs from source, using apt-get
[01:02] <_jason> luis:  /j #ubuntu-es
[01:02] <hajiki> luis, tecla esto /join #ubuntu-es
[01:02] <Trashcan> X got severely updated?
[01:02] <nalioth> luis: no hablamos espanol, aqui, #ubuntu esta solo ingles
[01:02] <mgraybill> ubuntu
[01:02] <mgraybill> sorr
[01:03] <mgraybill> sorry
[01:03] <Trashcan> theres 89 packages regarding xorg pending install :\
[01:03] <tristanmike> Seveas, do you still have the .deb for 7zip up?
[01:03] <luis> thanks
[01:03] <Mustard5> very good nalioth ..heheh you got this all in scripts?
[01:03] <Mustard5> hehe
[01:03] <luis> ya aprendi algo hoy
[01:03] <nalioth> tristanmike: 7zip is easy to compile
[01:03] <mgraybill> I have follwed the instructions on how to apt-get these programs but none of them seem to work or the arent there to get
[01:03] <hajiki> luis, felicidadez!
[01:03] <nalioth> Mustard5: what stuff?
[01:03] <Seveas> tristanmike, yes
[01:03] <Mustard5> all your replies
[01:04] <tristanmike> nalioth, I don't know how to "compile" still on the beginner stages... :)
[01:04] <nalioth> mgraybill: the ones that arent there to get, need to be build using apt-get
[01:04] <nalioth> tristanmike: learning is great
[01:04] <nalioth> Mustard5: i speak 4 languages
[01:04] <Mustard5> ah very good
[01:04] <tristanmike> Seveas, do you happen to have the address handy, sorry, i forgot to bookmark, *bad tristan, bad*
[01:04] <Mustard5> I'm limited to Aussie English :D
[01:05] <mgraybill> how do I do that? can you direct me to a doc or something?
[01:05] <trunks> Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk-bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible
[01:05] <tristanmike> nalioth, yeah, I love Ubuntu/Linux, I'm have a k-a time with it =)
[01:05] <trunks> how ca&n I fix it please?
[01:05] <nalioth> mgraybill: join #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:05] <tristanmike> *having
[01:05] <nalioth> tristanmike: you may join #kubuntu-offtopic also
[01:05] <tristanmike> nalioth, thank you, but....why?
[01:06] <Seveas> tristanmike, binaries4all.nl/~dennis/
[01:06] <Milk_> good evenin!!
[01:06] <nalioth> tristanmike: to learn to compile your own stuff
[01:06] <Dreamglider> Hello
[01:06] <tristanmike> Seveas, thanx
[01:06] <tristanmike> nalioth, ok, thanx
[01:06] <kbrooks> nalioth: why is compilation ot here
[01:06] <Navatiu> your probably need w32codec for that i think, milk
[01:06] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Milk_ about restricted
[01:07] <nalioth> kbrooks: it's not for here, it's so the learning party doesnt have the info swept away in the channel motion
[01:07] <shadeofgrey> any web development professionals in the house?
[01:08] <shadeofgrey> i already discovered NVU but i really need a color harmony application
[01:08] <cafuego_> You think they'd admit it if they were?
[01:08] <Amaranth> shadeofgrey: sort of, depends on the question
[01:08] <shadeofgrey> what the linux equivelant to color schemer stuidio?
[01:08] <Amaranth> shadeofgrey: #web might be more help
[01:08] <cafuego_> shadeofgrey: /dev/eye
[01:08] <Seveas> cafuego_, /proc/retina
[01:08] <cafuego_> shadeofgrey: There's a few erebsites that ganerate schemes that way, I don't know of a Linux all that does same.
[01:08] <cafuego_> s/erebsites/websites/
[01:09] <Kilter> if I want to create a user just so they exist, but not give them the ability to login to the box via ssh, how do I do it?
[01:09] <cafuego_> Kilter: Set their shell to /bin/true
[01:09] <Milk_> nalioth, I've read that
[01:09] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Milk_ about w32codecs
[01:09] <cafuego_> Kilter: Or, if you want them to be able to ftp, to /bin/false.
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> so theres no linux application dedicated to generating cololrschemes
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> ?
[01:09] <Kilter> cafuego_: is that a command I can do while creating them?  or something I modify after creation?
[01:09] <cafuego_> shadeofgrey: None that I know of.
[01:09] <Milk_> nalioth, already installed
[01:09] <shadeofgrey> that blows
[01:10] <Kilter> I've set up a samba server, but don't want people to ssh into it
[01:10] <Kilter> just access it via the network
[01:10] <cafuego_> Kilter: Up to you. 'man useradd' for the command line; otherwise just 'sudo vi /etc/passwd'
[01:10] <Kilter> ok, will dig it up, thanks
[01:10] <scamz> can someone help me with installing java vm
[01:10] <nalioth> Milk_: the newer microsoft codecs wont play unless you run windows
[01:10] <cafuego_> shadeofgrey: I think the idea is that pople can look at colours and decide for themselves ;-)
[01:10] <crispynix> shadeofgrey: KDE comes with a color settings configuration that lets you open/save color scheme, and you can even apply any scheme to any style
[01:10] <Kira> Kilter: you may also consider using iptables as well.
[01:11] <Kira> but maybe that's just me.
[01:11] <Milk_> nalioth, doh.. no ding dong song for me then
[01:11] <misterdiff> hey is there support in the linux kernel yet for pentium d?
[01:11] <biezt_linux> so any1 knows of a ezy way 2 let people upload 2 my site ?
[01:11] <Navatiu> i thought apt-get w32codec would get the codecs. bah. my guesswork.
[01:11] <biezt_linux> should i use a script ?
[01:11] <cafuego_> misterdiff: i686 kernel?
[01:11] <biezt_linux> or is there a possibility ?
[01:12] <cafuego_> biezt_linux: Je kunt ook gewoon engels spreken, hoor.
[01:12] <cafuego_> biezt_linux: webdav, ftp, php file uploads...
[01:12] <ompaul> Navatiu, sudo apt-get install blah << as long as blah is in one of your repos
[01:12] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Navatiu about w32codecs
[01:12] <Kira> lol w/ cafuego
[01:12] <Navatiu> heh malioth
[01:12] <Navatiu> nalioth
[01:12] <ompaul> !tell Navatiu about repos
[01:13] <wasabi_> There a way to boot hte live cd to console only?
[01:13] <Navatiu> thanks nava. :)
[01:13] <Navatiu> erm.. nalioth
[01:13] <ompaul> Navatiu, if your using a semi intelligent chat client typing the first couple of letters of a users name and tabbing can help a lot
[01:14] <misterdiff> cafuego, nah, i just found out on #gentoo that if i enable smp on the kernel that it should recognize both cores
[01:14] <misterdiff> cafuego, thanks anyway
[01:15] <cafuego_> misterdiff: You cna just install the 686-smp kernel and boot that.
[01:15] <misterdiff> what section of the synaptic package manager is that in?
[01:15] <cafuego_> linux-image-VERSIONSTRING
[01:15] <nalioth> misterdiff: the one in the "search" + kernel
[01:15] <Kira> What's the difference between the complete kernel and the kernel image?
[01:16] <Kira> I mean, I probably understand what the kernel is. But what's this "image" business?
[01:16] <kbrooks> Kira: the kernel image is a compiled version of it
[01:17] <kbrooks> with niceities built in (warnings etc)
[01:17] <N6REJ> I'm beginning to NOT like wireless
[01:17] <N6REJ> I keep losing sync with my router :(
[01:17] <_native_> what card
[01:17] <_native_> i love my wireless
[01:17] <Kira> kbrooks: and that is not the case with just "kernels"?
[01:17] <N6REJ> belkin 54G 35x
[01:18] <funkyHat> i love my wired network :P
[01:18] <N6REJ> the server IS wired :D
[01:18] <N6REJ> my wifes machine does great, but mine for some reason doesn't hold it all the time.
[01:18] <kbrooks> Kira: the kernel from kernel.org is not compiled
[01:18] <_native_>  what chipset i should say
[01:18] <_native_> :-P
[01:18] <N6REJ> hmmmmmmmmmmm.... let me look.
[01:18] <Kira> what about those in the Ubuntu release repositories?
[01:19] <kbrooks> Kira: compiled
[01:19] <_native_> if its not from the src repos ;-P
[01:19] <N6REJ> bcm4306/bcm2050
[01:19] <N6REJ> maybe its because I'm using a "secure" channel?
[01:20] <trunks> hi
[01:20] <_native_> oh man i have found no info on that chipset under linux.
[01:20] <Mustard5> Mark 2 of my last question, ...could you set up a seperate kernel and do an upgrade to breezy on a test kernel on a seperate hard drive?
[01:20] <trunks> cananybody help me?
[01:20] <conflikt> hmm
[01:20] <trunks> Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk-bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible
[01:21] <trunks> how can I fix it?
[01:21] <conflikt> can someone tell me or help on what Mp3 codec to install for xmms
[01:21] <nalioth> trunks: what is your question?
[01:21] <conflikt> hoary isnt too good ;\
[01:21] <Navatiu> why's that
[01:21] <_native_> conflikt, yes
[01:22] <nalioth> ubotu: tell conflikt about mp3
[01:22] <trunks> Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk-bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible
[01:22] <trunks> i ve got this pb
[01:22] <biezt_linux> does any1 know how to install php in my linux ?
[01:22] <conflikt> well  i switched from gentoo
[01:22] <biezt_linux> i got apache 2.0 :P
[01:22] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to setup the snes9x emulator?
[01:22] <conflikt> just recently..
[01:22] <trunks> but i can t find this package to try to fix it
[01:22] <conflikt> 2 days ago
[01:22] <_native_> do you know how to add a repository for apt-get to grab packs from
[01:23] <conflikt> yes
[01:23] <N6REJ> hajiaki: looks like I got a bad download... packages are corrupted or missing.
[01:23] <_native_> see the ubuntuguide.org
[01:23] <conflikt> _native_ can portage be installed on ubuntu  ?
[01:23] <_native_> ook
[01:23] <nalioth> _native_: please dont advise ubuntuguide
[01:23] <_native_> i have no idea
[01:23] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _native_ about ubuntuguide
[01:23] <conflikt> ill keep working with ubuntu ;\
[01:24] <biezt_linux> how do i install php support with my apache ... #apache tells me to ask here ;)
[01:24] <_native_> yes i agree but i was mearly a ref to adding a repo
[01:24] <cafuego_> biezt_linux: apt-get install libapache-mod-php4 (for apache 1.3) and libapache-mod-php4 (for apache2)
[01:24] <N6REJ> whats bad about ubuntuguide?
[01:24] <_native_> its out of date the ubuntu wiki is best
[01:25] <conflikt> yea it is out of date..
[01:25] <N6REJ> oic
[01:25] <cafuego_> !ubuntuguide
[01:25] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[01:25] <N6REJ> ok, tyvm.
[01:25] <_native_> sticking to official info is always best
[01:25] <cafuego_> N6REJ: How's that P2 running btw?
[01:25] <N6REJ> good info, sense I'm just getting started its best to NOT get any gigo going
[01:26] <N6REJ> better now... I had to change to ext2 and manually partition...  225mb /boot, 39gb /, and 800mb /swap
[01:26] <conflikt> _native_ have you used gentoo before ?
[01:26] <_native_> yes
[01:26] <Vegar> Is it possible to change the email address of a gpg key?
[01:26] <_native_> lots
[01:26] <conflikt> did you like it ?
[01:26] <conflikt> i loved it o_O
[01:26] <openback> hi, I'm trying to get my Treo 650 Palm phone to sync, but it's not being seen by any programs. I'm trying to follow the instructions from http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21466&highlight=treo but /dev/ttyUSB1 is never created
[01:26] <conflikt> i think i might just go back to it
[01:26] <biezt_linux> cafuego,  it is not a good package name
[01:27] <conflikt> but ill check out this ubuntu for a little
[01:27] <cafuego_> Vegar: Yes. just add a uid. (gpg --edit-key <keyid>)
[01:27] <_native_> yeah but got tired of compile times
[01:27] <Vegar> cafuego: what about the expiration date? can that be changed/removed?
[01:27] <cafuego_> biezt_linux: Well, why don't you file a bug report and tell the maintainer that.
[01:27] <conflikt> _native_ hmm
[01:27] <bloodnik> Hey, I'm trying to build transcode from source through apt
[01:27] <conflikt> ccache ?
[01:27] <cafuego_> Vegar: Dunno offhand, type 'help' in the edit menu, it'll list all commands.
[01:27] <_native_> dude trust me debian based ubuntu is a sweet distro
[01:27] <conflikt> thers is a ton of stuff to speed up compile time
[01:27] <bloodnik> I installed all the requisites, also from source through apt
[01:28] <Vegar> cafuego_: ok, thanks
[01:28] <conflikt> i had pure debian installed
[01:28] <conflikt> but its so out of date ;\
[01:28] <bloodnik> But now I'm getting undefined reference type compilation errors from transcode
[01:28] <_native_> i found that gentoo broke way more often than my debian and ubuntu boxen
[01:28] <cafuego_> biezt_linux: alternatively, figure out how to seatch for packages in synaptic/aptitude or apt-get.
[01:28] <conflikt> my gentoo never broke
[01:28] <crimsun> bloodnik: we compile it for you in Breezy/multiverse
[01:28] <conflikt> ran it for like 4 months
[01:28] <conflikt> after using Mandrake for like 1 month heh
[01:28] <_native_> no reboots?
[01:28] <hajiki> N6REJ, hows the install going?
[01:28] <bloodnik> That doesn't work, crimsun.
[01:28] <bloodnik> It complains about dependencies.
[01:28] <conflikt> _native_ nope
[01:29] <conflikt> :)
[01:29] <conflikt> i messed up KDE myself though
[01:29] <biezt_linux> cafuego,  it is both the same name .... apache 1.3 and 2.0 :| r u sure u have the good 1 for 2.0 ?
[01:29] <N6REJ> ok, I've got a screen I haven't seen before.
[01:29] <_native_> thats pretty good
[01:29] <conflikt> i even got to use e17 :D
[01:29] <N6REJ> Its asking me which kernel to install
[01:29] <conflikt> cvs
[01:29] <conflikt> e17 is niccccccccccce
[01:29] <conflikt> with entrance ;)
[01:29] <crimsun> bloodnik: Hoary?
[01:29] <cafuego_> biezt_linux: Can you sopeak english or dutch and not that r u 4 crap?
[01:29] <bloodnik> crimsun, yes
[01:29] <hajiki> wth? ive never had that prompt on ubuntu
[01:29] <crimsun> bloodnik: that's why. Dist-upgrade to Breezy and try again.
[01:29] <N6REJ> lol
[01:30] <biezt_linux> sure ... do you really have the good name for the package ?
[01:30] <N6REJ> I swear I'm not halucinating
[01:30] <conflikt> i just dont got the time cause of work to reinstall gentoo
[01:30] <conflikt> ;\
[01:30] <biezt_linux> since you have 2 identical names
[01:30] <luis> jump/ #ubuntu-es
[01:30] <cafuego_> biezt_linux: libapache-mod-php4 and libapache2-mod-php4, yep.
[01:30] <openback> can someone help me out with my udev, I think. My Palm phone is recognized when connected, but it just says a "full speed USB device using....", nothing about it actually recognizing what it is...
[01:31] <inthenow> do speedstream dsl modems work no problem in ubuntu?
[01:31] <bloodnik> crimsun, do you mean just do a dist-upgrade, which will upgrade to Breezy? Or do I need to edit my sources.list to say breey rather than hoary?
[01:31] <cafuego_> !info libapache2-mod-php4
[01:31] <N6REJ> choices are :  Linux-386,  Linux-image-386, Linux-image-2.6.10-5.386
[01:31] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 4:4.3.10-10ubuntu4 (hoary), Packaged size: 1553 kB, Installed size: 3108 kB
[01:31] <crimsun> bloodnik: you would need to fully dist-upgrade to Breezy
[01:31] <luis> #ubuntu -es
[01:31] <hajiki> im sure they are all the same
[01:31] <obiyoda> I just installed a dual head card on my ubuntu system how do I get the second monitor to work.
[01:31] <nalioth> luis: escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[01:31] <N6REJ> linux-386 it is
[01:31] <trunks> sorry
[01:31] <trunks> i had a pb of pc
[01:31] <N6REJ> just as an fyi, it was unable to install sendmail
[01:32] <cafuego_> N6REJ: After install you can replace that with linux-image-2.6.12-9-686
[01:32] <N6REJ> cc
[01:32] <trunks> Gnome-WARNING **: Accessibility: failed to find module 'libatk-bridge' which is needed to make this application accessible
[01:32] <N6REJ> just gotta get'r going first
[01:32] <trunks> i can t find this package
[01:32] <cafuego_> N6REJ: Good, sendmail is shit. Postfix is FAR nicer to work with :-)
[01:32] <trunks> i want to erase this error
[01:32] <bloodnik> crimsun, noobify that a bit more for me? :) Can I do that here or am I going to have to get a Breezy CD?
[01:32] <Earthen> I just bought a new laptop is there some place i can go look to see how compatible it will be with Linux (Ubuntu)?
[01:32] <N6REJ> :)
[01:32] <kbrooks> did you all get updates yet
[01:32] <cafuego_> Earthen: Try www.linux-laptop.net
[01:32] <hajiki> i though ubuntu used postfix by default?
[01:33] <N6REJ> it think it was a bug in the script in hoary because hoary said it didn't exist LOL
[01:33] <Earthen> cafuego: thanks! will do
[01:33] <crimsun> bloodnik: wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgradeNotes
[01:33] <cafuego_> Earthen: If it's not listed there, google is your friend.
[01:33] <N6REJ> I thought so too.
[01:33] <N6REJ> <--- hates sendmail
[01:33] <kbrooks> hajiki: maybe it does
[01:33] <conflikt> ehh
[01:33] <kbrooks> !info postfix warty
[01:33] <obiyoda> N6REJ: try qmail
[01:33] <ubotu> postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is important. Version: 2.1.3-1ubuntu17 (warty), Packaged size: 745 kB, Installed size: 1848 kB
[01:33] <kbrooks> !info postfix hoary
[01:33] <Earthen> cafuego: I tried google but didn't find much too my likeing, but I only googled for anout 5 min's LOL
[01:33] <ubotu> postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is important. Version: 2.1.5-9ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 772 kB, Installed size: 1892 kB
[01:33] <kbrooks> !info postfix breezy
[01:34] <ubotu> postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is optional. Version: 2.2.4-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 889 kB, Installed size: 2140 kB
[01:34] <conflikt> i dont see anything on the wiki for mp3 codec
[01:34] <conflikt> o_O
[01:34] <conflikt> well not for hoary
[01:34] <kbrooks> Yup, all do, but postfix was made optional
[01:34] <kbrooks> in breezy
[01:34] <_native_> UserDocumentation -> restricted formats
[01:34] <conflikt> _native_
[01:34] <_native_> i think
[01:34] <conflikt> im there
[01:34] <memin> jump/ #ubuntu-es
[01:34] <conflikt> i did what they said
[01:34] <conflikt> no work
[01:35] <conflikt> and when i cntrl +P xmms there is no mp3 codec there
[01:35] <_native_> so did you already add universe repository?
[01:35] <conflikt> ummm yes
[01:35] <_native_> ok
[01:35] <N6REJ> 40% installed base
[01:36] <HairToOk> hello
[01:36] <conflikt> i got the win32codes
[01:36] <HairToOk> we have to speak only english here plz?
[01:36] <_native_> do they work? the
[01:36] <_native_> w32codecs i mean
[01:36] <kbrooks> yer only english HairToOk
[01:36] <conflikt> there isnt a mp3 codec in that
[01:36] <HairToOk> ok thx
[01:36] <conflikt> gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse is the one i could not apt-get
[01:37] <HairToOk> i'm testing ubuntu first time this nihgt
[01:37] <conflikt> i tried to get k3b-mp3 wouldnt let me
[01:37] <biezt_linux> so does anyone know the name of the package containing php for apache 2.0 ??? search doesn't work it gives no apache and php
[01:37] <nalioth> HairToOk: franais en #ubuntu-fr
[01:38] <HairToOk> cool thx nalioth
[01:38] <conflikt> how do you fix broken packages ?
[01:38] <conflikt> i cant get gstreamer-lame that has a mp3 codec cause liblame0 is broke
[01:38] <conflikt> grr
[01:38] <thierry_> hi, I have a problem with GDM : I can't remove my old kernel from GDM, even if their package is not installed anymore
[01:38] <conflikt> well wrong version
[01:39] <thierry_> conflikt : did you tried to remove it and then reinstall it?
[01:39] <propagandhi> can someone help with adding the gpg key for the Restricted formats repository
[01:39] <conflikt> thierry
[01:39] <_native_> im sorry confikt im really busy so my attention to xchat is back and forth.
[01:39] <conflikt> gstreamer0.8-lame: Depends: liblame0 (>= 3.96.1-1) but it is not installable
[01:39] <activelow> anyone get an ipod to work with ubuntu?  Mine doenst work, I get usb 2-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -71.. I tried installing gtkpod and it still wont see it
[01:39] <thierry_> conflikt : have you read the ubuntu guide?
[01:40] <conflikt> thierry yes!
[01:40] <biezt_linux> can anyone search the name for the php package of apache 2.0 ?
[01:40] <thierry_> activelow : does this happens only with ipods or with any usb interface?
[01:40] <_native_> !ubuntuguide
[01:40] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[01:40] <N6REJ> 92%
[01:41] <conflikt> ubuntuguide dont work
[01:41] <activelow> thierry_:  usb works great for mice and keydrives, but it doesnt detect the ipod as a mass storage device, I just get that usb error
[01:41] <conflikt> not for mp3 codec
[01:41] <Zealot> so i dont think i made a swap drive
[01:41] <Zealot> haha
[01:41] <conflikt> you gotta be kidding me no one in here got mp3 codec for hoary ?
[01:41] <thierry_> conflikt : it's hard to say since I'm on breezy right now
[01:42] <misterdiff> ok, so i'm about to go buy a pc in a few minutes and i need to decide. intel pentium d or athlon 64 x2
[01:42] <misterdiff> so which one do you all like folks>?
[01:42] <Zealot> athlon 64 d
[01:42] <Zealot> x2 i mean
[01:42] <Zealot> hah
[01:42] <misterdiff> Zealot, why
[01:42] <conflikt> ill reinstall hoary when its stable ;\
[01:42] <thierry_> activelow : mmm don't know, I'm on breezy and I don't have any ipod at hand so...
[01:43] <_native_> time to go vote, yeah gonna rock the vote!
[01:43] <conflikt> _native_
[01:43] <thierry_> conflikt : hoary IS stable!
[01:43] <conflikt> ehh
[01:43] <_native_> what
[01:43] <conflikt> thierry i dunno bout that
[01:43] <conflikt> o_O
[01:43] <biezt_linux> can anyone search the real package name for php with apache 2.0 ?
[01:43] <Zealot> misterdiff, because athlon 64 is very stable and clocks easier, and i think athlon makes quality chips over intel
[01:44] <biezt_linux> spt-cache search php4 does nothing
[01:44] <biezt_linux> apt
[01:44] <Hitao> text
[01:44] <N6REJ> I remember reading you have to manually compile/install those two.
[01:44] <Zealot> and if you get two 64 chips thats a good deal over a pentium
[01:44] <N6REJ> will cpan work with ubuntu?
[01:44] <_native_> conflikt, its a proprietry format issue not a stability issue all you need is a couple of packages
[01:44] <Zealot> but does anyone know how i can partition a sawp drive in ubuntu?
[01:44] <Mustard5> the libmod-php4 one?
[01:44] <keikoz> Zealot like others partitions
[01:44] <conflikt> _native_; i installed everything the wiki said..............
[01:44] <keikoz> just mkswap it
[01:45] <Zealot> i've never partitioned in ubuntu
[01:45] <BooZee> where (in the filesystem) are the source code for my linux ?
[01:45] <keikoz> fdisk
[01:45] <Zealot> in terminal?
[01:45] <keikoz> yes
[01:45] <N6REJ> BooZee: the entire drive is source!
[01:45] <conflikt> mkswap /dev/hda1 ect
[01:45] <conflikt> swapon /dev/hda1 ect
[01:45] <N6REJ> per se'
[01:45] <biezt_linux> Mustard5, what is the search command ?
[01:45] <bimberi> BooZee: in /usr/src - but only if you've installed the linux-source package
[01:45] <biezt_linux> i find nothing ...
[01:46] <conflikt> zealot
[01:46] <BooZee> where was the option to do so?
[01:46] <conflikt> its not hard
[01:46] <conflikt> fdisk
[01:46] <thierry_> biezt_linux : could that be apache2 ?
[01:46] <conflikt> delete all the active partitions
[01:46] <conflikt> make a main partion of like 32+M
[01:46] <N6REJ> hijaiki: its sitting at 50% "testing network repository" and I have the cat5 disco'd per your recommendation
[01:46] <Mustard5> biezt_linux, I'm typing it into synaptic
[01:46] <conflikt> make it active
[01:46] <biezt_linux> thierry_, don't know .. i need the add-on which makes php ossible :O
[01:46] <biezt_linux> possible
[01:46] <bimberi> BooZee: search for linux-source in Synaptic and install the version matching our kernel version
[01:46] <Mustard5> I can see a libapachemod-ph4
[01:47] <BooZee> bimberi: which is.. ?
[01:47] <Mustard5> *php4
[01:47] <Zealot> conflikt
[01:47] <thierry_> biezt_linux : maybe try apt-cache search apache2
[01:47] <BooZee> running hoary
[01:47] <conflikt> Zealot illl msg u and tell u how
[01:47] <bimberi> BooZee: 2.6.10 for Hoary :)
[01:47] <Zealot> ok thanks
[01:47] <_native_> got to go.............
[01:47] <bimberi> BooZee: "uname -r" in a terminal will tell you
[01:47] <conflikt> Zealot do you have AIM ?
[01:47] <Zealot> yeah
[01:47] <Zealot> shardzealot
[01:48] <conflikt> aim=
[01:48] <conflikt> 1 min le tme sign on ill walk u threw it ;)
[01:48] <conflikt> u want reiserfs ?
[01:48] <conflikt> much more faster
[01:48] <conflikt> then ext3 or ext2
[01:48] <Zealot> reserfs?
[01:48] <Zealot> what is that
[01:48] <conflikt> o_O
[01:48] <conflikt> a fs
[01:48] <conflikt> lol
[01:49] <Zealot> i dunno what your talkin about hah
[01:49] <N6REJ> yep had to reconnect the nic to get it to go further
[01:50] <biezt_linux> can it be possible that php is installed automatically in apache2 ?
[01:51] <trunks> i've got a pb with libatk-bridge
[01:51] <trunks> how can i solve it?
[01:51] <Mustard5> is libapache2-mod-php4 is no good?
[01:52] <biezt_linux> Mustard5,  it says it's no good :|
[01:52] <_native_> ok i have got to know why i cant fakeroot make-kpkg options target blahh... even though i am member group src
[01:53] <N6REJ> nope
[01:53] <N6REJ> php is an apache module
[01:53] <biezt_linux> N6REJ,  u got an idea ?
[01:53] <N6REJ> you trying to install php?
[01:53] <biezt_linux> y
[01:53] <biezt_linux> yes
[01:53] <biezt_linux> on apache 2
[01:54] <j0nas`> hey... im having a little trouble with my wireless connection... could someone lend me a hand?
[01:54] <biezt_linux> but i can't find the package name ! is there a package ?
[01:54] <N6REJ> ok, I don't know ubuntu, but in general linux, you get the perl and php & apache sources, and then follow the instruction at apache.org
[01:54] <cork_ubuntu> i was of the understanding that php and apache packages were easy to install
[01:54] <erisco> hello, just a very quick question.... how do I update my macromedia flash>
[01:54] <N6REJ> no, not for ubuntu!  the wiki has info... hang on.
[01:54] <Mustard5> I can see libapache-mod-php4
[01:54] <N6REJ> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[01:55] <moparfan90> hello.
[01:55] <elad`> 1. How do I change the keyboard shortcuts? 2. Link: http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/9973/screenshot20cd.png I want to make the background transparent while keeping the lambda as it currently is.
[01:55] <cork_ubuntu> hiznet, did you try just searching for apache* when using synaptic
[01:55] <moparfan90> if i install ubuntu 64bit can i install mplayer and all those things + win32 codecs in 32 bit format?
[01:55] <erisco> i am looking for a command for my command line... i used one to install flash.... apt-get command most likely
[01:55] <Mustard5> libapache-mod-php4
[01:55] <Mustard5> server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 1.3 module)
[01:55] <N6REJ> biezt_linux that should do it for yah :D
[01:55] <Mustard5> not it?
[01:55] <nalioth> moparfan90: you'll have to run them in a chroot environment which can get to be a pita
[01:56] <thierry_> elad` : go see in system->preferences-> keyboard shortcuts
[01:56] <cork_ubuntu> moparfan, i seen that there are tricks to doing that in the wiki
[01:56] <biezt_linux> N6REJ, nope the package doesn't exist :|
[01:56] <cork_ubuntu> look under ubuntu64
[01:56] <erisco> hmm i guess no one can help me on this one....
[01:56] <cork_ubuntu> its convulted but laid out well
[01:56] <biezt_linux> apt-get install php4 does nothing :s
[01:57] <thierry_> erisco : I think ubuntu guide explain this one
[01:57] <erisco> biezt_linux.... what is the error?
[01:57] <elad`> Erm?
[01:57] <Dreamglider> how do i become root in ubuntu ?
[01:57] <moparfan90> oo
[01:57] <cork_ubuntu> you dont!!
[01:57] <moparfan90> sudo -i
[01:57] <erisco> dream you are not meant to
[01:57] <elad`> Oops, I meant to post that on the other channel I'm on. Sorry.
[01:57] <N6REJ> lol, look at the VERY bottom of the screen... where it says FURTHER
[01:57] <cork_ubuntu> sudo [app]
[01:57] <moparfan90> Dreamglider, cork_ubuntu, you can type sudo -i
[01:58] <kbrooks> moparfan90: thats -s
[01:58] <erisco> dream, you use sudo and then your command for root
[01:58] <kbrooks> not -i
[01:58] <bimberi> kbrooks: that's -s or -i
[01:58] <cork_ubuntu> thank you
[01:58] <erisco> like sudo apt-get install package
[01:58] <moparfan90> no its sudo -i
[01:58] <cork_ubuntu> i knew i was doing something right these last 10 years of using linux
[01:58] <N6REJ> you don't use su root?
[01:58] <erisco> no
[01:58] <moparfan90> no not on ubuntu
[01:58] <Navatiu> !tell navatiu about sudo
[01:58] <erisco> it is sudo with ubuntu
[01:59] <kbrooks> bimberi: was under the impression that -i meant clear the environment.....
[01:59] <erisco> sudo comes from su tho
[01:59] <cafuego_> moparfan90: You can install and run mplayer in a 32bit chroot via 'dchroot' Once it's set up, it's transparent.
[01:59] <N6REJ> OMG, I'm going to have so much to relearn LOL
[01:59] <erisco> yeah i am in the process of it
[01:59] <moparfan90> cafuego_, oo is that hard.... i am getting a AMD athlon 64 2800 in a week
[01:59] <cork_ubuntu> my only complaint with ubuntu, and one that wasnt its fault was with a crap soundcard
[01:59] <punkass> does anyone know of good software for laying out a floor plan ??
[01:59] <bimberi> kbrooks: yes it simulates a root logon shell, but sometimes that's desirable
[01:59] <GDorn> yikes.  how many times is this going to regenerate the fonts cache?
[01:59] <cork_ubuntu> never ever ever ever ever buy one based on cmi chipsets
[02:00] <cork_ubuntu> they are shite
[02:00] <trunks> c etait le package at-spi
[02:00] <cafuego_> moparfan90: No, it's trivial. just takes abit of time. (I have a 2800+ too)
[02:00] <N6REJ> via/nvidia or bust!
[02:00] <rob_p> elad`:  did you figure out the transparency issue with your graphic?
[02:00] <cafuego_> !chroot
[02:00] <ubotu> from memory, chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:00] <erisco> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla haha i found it
[02:00] <cork_ubuntu> i went out bought one on a foremedia and its great
[02:00] <cork_ubuntu> hey...someones using an amd2800+
[02:00] <cork_ubuntu> are they any good. quick?
[02:00] <N6REJ> I just got a semperon 2800 from a athlon xp 1700.  I'm shocked at how big a diff it is. even though its the same cpu speed
[02:00] <cork_ubuntu> the 64 bit cpu i mean
[02:00] <erisco> gee i use one of those... not now tho
[02:00] <moparfan90> cafuego_, cool. is 64-bit ubuntu alot faster hen 32-bit?
[02:01] <N6REJ> VERY!
[02:01] <cafuego_> cork_ubuntu: Yes, extremely fast (Though not as far as say a 4200+)
[02:01] <cork_ubuntu> wow dude
[02:01] <cork_ubuntu> my budget is finite
[02:01] <N6REJ> I couldn't play Redux before, now it flys, even with an old video card.
[02:01] <N6REJ> same here.
[02:01] <cork_ubuntu> 200 bucks max in a quarter
[02:01] <N6REJ> go to tiger and get a good asus mb
[02:01] <cafuego_> moparfan90: Not, not really on day to day jobs. The only palce it makes much difference, video encoding etc, isn't really ported properly.
[02:02] <moparfan90> oo
[02:02] <cafuego_> N6REJ: I'm not touching those with a ten foot pole, Gigabyte all the way.
[02:02] <N6REJ> giga is great also
[02:02] <StyXman> stupid question of the day: anyone else experimenting transfer rate probles with security.ubuntu.com?
[02:02] <cork_ubuntu> currently upgraded from a celeraon 500 to a 1.4g p4
[02:02] <moparfan90> im going to try a windows zp 64-bit edition trial
[02:02] <cafuego_> moparfan90: ... and by using Ubuntu you also don't get a lot of compile work.
[02:02] <cork_ubuntu> so all those talks of 64 bits at warp speed aint for me!
[02:02] <moparfan90> cafuego_,o
[02:02] <cafuego_> moparfan90: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575 explains exactly what and how to set up :-)
[02:03] <cork_ubuntu> styxman!!
[02:03] <cork_ubuntu> yes
[02:03] <moparfan90> ok thanks  alot
[02:03] <cork_ubuntu> and on the mirror for ireland
[02:03] <cork_ubuntu> its like so slow
[02:03] <cork_ubuntu> about 15k/s
[02:03] <crimsun> Is anyone on amd64-generic and using an Intel High Definition Audio chipset?
[02:04] <StyXman> cork_ubuntu: you lucky bastard, I get less that 3KiB/s!
[02:04] <StyXman> than*
[02:04] <cork_ubuntu> lmao
[02:04] <cork_ubuntu> i was on about the general site
[02:04] <moparfan90> cafuego_, i have breezy
[02:04] <cork_ubuntu> security can be slower, about 5 or 5
[02:04] <cork_ubuntu> 5 or 6
[02:04] <cafuego_> moparfan90: *nod* me too.
[02:04] <biezt_linux> so it is possible my package list is out of date ??
[02:04] <cafuego_> moparfan90: What video card?
[02:04] <moparfan90> is breezy in 64 bit?
[02:04] <Navatiu> i think disabled the root acccount on ubuntu part is very good idea to me.
[02:04] <cork_ubuntu> guys im new to irc
[02:04] <propagandhi83> does anyone know how to install the GPG key for the restricted formats repo
[02:04] <cafuego_> moparfan90: Yes, breezy64.
[02:05] <moparfan90> nvidia GeFource FX 5200 128 DDR
[02:05] <moparfan90> ok
[02:05] <cork_ubuntu> is there a way i can keep track of only one thread or something?
[02:05] <gigaclon> cork_ubuntu, hi and welcome
[02:05] <gigaclon> no
[02:05] <cafuego_> moparfan90: Cool, the nvidia driver works fine on 64bit sustems.
[02:05] <moparfan90> cool
[02:05] <cork_ubuntu> thx gigaclon
[02:05] <chsguy55> hey guys can i get someone to help me real quick.. please
[02:05] <N6REJ> mopar that the same card I have, just mines about 3 years old
[02:05] <moparfan90> N6REJ, mine to
[02:05] <gigaclon> chsguy55, whats your question
[02:05] <cork_ubuntu> old hardware collector here
[02:05] <StyXman> cork_ubuntu: yes, this channels tend to be messy to read
[02:05] <cork_ubuntu> lol
[02:05] <N6REJ> I love it but would sure like a 6800
[02:05] <Dreamglider> i need to make a dir called pc in etc/x11/xkb/symbols/ but im not allowed becaus a file is called pc what can i do about this ?
[02:06] <moparfan90> N6REJ, when  i got it, it was almost the best out there
[02:06] <StyXman> so you must train your eyes to do some pattern recognition on the nicks of everyone
[02:06] <cork_ubuntu> sudo mkdir /blah/blah..
[02:06] <N6REJ> yep, same here.
[02:06] <chsguy55> well first of all how do i send you a message back ? gigaclon
[02:06] <j0nas`> anyone using wireless with WEP?
[02:06] <chsguy55> whats the command
[02:06] <gigaclon> just say my name
[02:06] <j0nas`> im having a little trouble getting mine to work
[02:06] <chemisus> sometimes, why?
[02:06] <chemisus> i recommend the WIFI spray
[02:06] <StyXman> cork_ubuntu: no, he has a file already named like that
[02:07] <j0nas`> :)
[02:07] <moparfan90> does anyone know if he game  quake 4   will work on linux??
[02:07] <occy> Trying to talk my neighbors into using Ubuntu.  They are willing to give it a try!
[02:07] <cork_ubuntu> oops
[02:07] <StyXman> cork_ubuntu: and also say to who you're talking to
[02:07] <j0nas`> chemisus: intel iw2200?
[02:07] <StyXman> anyways, time to part
[02:07] <cork_ubuntu> see trying to watch everything. sorry thx styman
[02:07] <chemisus> j0nas`: nah
[02:07] <j0nas`> ah
[02:07] <gigaclon> nick completion is wonder full
[02:07] <StyXman> gigaclon: yes, indeed
[02:07] <MetalWolf> hi...
[02:07] <obiyoda> does any one have an example of an xorg.conf file for a dual head nvidia geforce4 card?
[02:07] <j0nas`> tab completion in any sense is wonderful
[02:07] <moparfan90> hello
[02:08] <cork_ubuntu> i love my console :-)
[02:08] <cork_ubuntu> my favourite quote, linux is user friendly, its choosy about what users its freindly with :-)
[02:08] <wolfsbaine> hello can anyone answer a little question for me ?
[02:09] <cafuego_>  moparfan90surely idsoft have a linux binary
[02:09] <gigaclon> chsguy55, if you want to send me a private message its /msg gigaclon, but it is best to ask the whole channel at once, if you type my name the line will stand out for me to easily read
[02:09] <chsguy55> ok well... i am trying to download some games.. and the seem not to be showing up.. ive researched on the internet.. and did what it told me to and still nothing... i even logged out and came back in
[02:09] <cork_ubuntu> will try wolfsbaine
[02:09] <wolfsbaine> how do i use gcc4 to install mplayer ?
[02:09] <Vegar> is my gpg key supposed to be signed by myself every time I send a change?
[02:09] <gigaclon> chsguy55, where from and with what browser
[02:09] <moparfan90> does anyone here know if the game    'QUAKE 4' will work on linux?
[02:09] <nalioth> Vegar: change what?
[02:09] <wolfsbaine> i've tried typing make and configure in bash
[02:09] <Vegar> nalioth: UIDs
[02:09] <nalioth> wolfsbaine: install "build-essentials"
[02:10] <chsguy55> synaptic package manager
[02:10] <wolfsbaine> tried doing a find on make
[02:10] <nalioth> Vegar: i'm stupid and dont understand
[02:10] <gigaclon> moparfan90, try cedega
[02:10] <moparfan90> no i mean will it be made for linux also?
[02:10] <wolfsbaine> do i just type that into the command prompt ?
[02:10] <Vegar> nalioth: My key gets signed by myself every time I add a new email address or change the primary.
[02:10] <MetalWolf> I attempted to upgrade firefox using apt-get I got a few problems which i narrowed down to me having an odd apt location.  which i have removed and now firefox will not work.  I have tried apt-get remove firefox then apt-get install firefox but that hasn't helped.  any ideas?
[02:10] <BooZee> i've used Synaptic to download the source code. It downloaded a file into the /usr/src dir called linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2. how can I unpack it?
[02:10] <nalioth> wolfsbaine: use synaptic
[02:10] <wolfsbaine> cool i'll have a looke
[02:10] <moparfan90> wolfsbaine, what are you trying to do?
[02:10] <cork_ubuntu> general:: my kde is still at 3.4.0 despite doing regular updates am i missing something?
[02:11] <nalioth> Vegar: i have no idea, try #gnupg
[02:11] <shadeofgrey> hey guys i need help
[02:11] <Vegar> nalioth: ok
[02:11] <gigaclon> shadeofgrey, with what?
[02:11] <wolfsbaine> initially just geting to grips with ubuntu, tryn to install prog
[02:11] <moparfan90> oo
[02:11] <shadeofgrey> i still cant fijnd a good color harmonizing application...  is there anywhere online through the ubuntu website that i can find a list of the most useful/powerful applications for web development?
[02:11] <moparfan90> use synpatic if yourew to linux
[02:12] <agentfelix> i have a question is anyone available to answer?
[02:12] <cork_ubuntu> i do web dev, my 2 tools of choice are quanta and gimp
[02:12] <moparfan90> you new*
[02:12] <wolfsbaine> yeah but that won't install mplayer
[02:12] <wolfsbaine> i'm using breezy
[02:12] <moparfan90> dont ask to ask just ask
[02:12] <Amaranth> agentfelix: Just ask and see if someone can help.
[02:12] <moparfan90> , just ask    dont ask to ask
[02:12] <cafuego_> I do web dev too. my tools of choice are ssh and vim.
[02:13] <moparfan90> agentfelix,  just ask    dont ask to ask
[02:13] <gigaclon> shadeofgrey, try browsing the Synaptic categorys
[02:13] <shadeofgrey> cork:  i need something that will generate lists of complimentary colors using various base values
[02:13] <BooZee> i've used Synaptic to download the source code. It downloaded a file into the /usr/src dir called linux-source-2.6.10.tar.bz2. how can I unpack it?
[02:13] <shadeofgrey> like colr schwemer studio for windows....
[02:13] <Amaranth> cafuego_: gnome-vfs and gedit here
[02:13] <moparfan90>  just ask    dont ask to ask, try GIMP
[02:13] <cork_ubuntu> never heard of it
[02:13] <agentfelix> i want to partition the drive keep 40gb's to windows xp pro the cracked version of course and then 20gbs to Ubuntu...so can i install ubuntu from dos to the assigned drive?
[02:13] <cafuego_> Amaranth: :-)
[02:13] <Amaranth> shadeofgrey: A quick google search will give you a website to do that.
[02:14] <cork_ubuntu> being honest ive been programming 15 years and havent had windows on this box in the last 10
[02:14] <gigaclon> BooZee, right click
[02:14] <chsguy55> I am using synaptic package manager to download programs and i have been trying to download games and they are not showing up. I have searched the internet and have done what they told me to do and as well as log out and come back in.. but still it does not show up.. can anyone help.. thanks
[02:14] <moparfan90> good for you
[02:14] <shadeofgrey> actually this is probably easier..  how do i set up WINE so that I can just try installing the windows app that i use for colors selections that i like so mucvh?
[02:14] <cafuego_> Amaranth: for some reason my gedit can't open certain vfs-ssh dirs. it's peculiar (naultilus opens 'em fine)
[02:14] <moparfan90> chsguy55, what game are you trying to install?
[02:14] <gigaclon> chsguy55, are there greenbox next to the name of the game?
[02:15] <Mustard5> chsguy55, try the 'run application' in your application menu?
[02:15] <gigaclon> chsguy55, if so try typing the name of the game in a terminal
[02:15] <shadeofgrey> the odds that itll work are slim, but theres still a chance that it might, and its really the best program ive ever seen for the job...
[02:15] <Amaranth> cafuego_: gedit bug, it can only open them read-only
[02:15] <cork_ubuntu> shadeofgrey, there was a good tutorial on that on one of the nz linux wikis
[02:15] <Amaranth> cafuego_: i just save them locally and drag-and-drop
[02:15] <cork_ubuntu> asfaik that was where i seen it
[02:15] <agentfelix> is anyone going to answer my question?
[02:15] <shadeofgrey> cork:  care to narrow it down to WHICH wikis?
[02:15] <kbrooks> how do i use valgrind
[02:15] <Mustard5> I don't know agentfelix
[02:15] <gigaclon> agentfelix, is it already partitioned?
[02:16] <agentfelix> obviously not since im on it now
[02:16] <cork_ubuntu> shadeofgrey, i only used it once, its in nz a linux user group
[02:16] <agentfelix> would i have to put windows on both
[02:16] <agentfelix> then install ubuntu
[02:16] <cork_ubuntu> shadeofgrey, try googling it with ubuntu
[02:16] <cafuego_> Urgh
[02:16] <gigaclon> you only put windows on one partition
[02:16] <cork_ubuntu> shadeofgrey, look out for the nz sites
[02:17] <gigaclon> agentfelix, open up "My Computer"
[02:17] <agentfelix> you can put windows on both partitions
[02:17] <cork_ubuntu> Why would anyone go back to using windows, all i miss are the headaches :-)
[02:17] <gigaclon> how may drives does it show
[02:17] <agentfelix> the MBR is the same
[02:17] <cork_ubuntu> even my wife doesnt use her windows box anymore :-)
[02:17] <wolfsbaine> ok so i'm still struggling to install mplayer, can't do it thru synaptic, says probably not available for my platform alltough multiverse is enable in repositeries
[02:17] <agentfelix> just one i didn't partition it yet
[02:17] <obiyoda> does anybody use ubuntu with a dual display?   It works fine for me.
[02:21] <calc> flash is shit because all it is used for is crappy advertisements
[02:21] <kbrooks> Dreamglider: what is the exact command you used to make the directory
[02:21] <_jason> calc:  I'll agree with that
[02:21] <cafuego_> _jason: the whole idea of using a proprietary non-portable publish platform is BAD.
[02:21] <calc> cafuego_: yea and that too ;)
[02:21] <Amaranth> Dreamglider: Upgrading from hoary to breezy?
[02:21] <erisco> it is also used for some fun games too =p
[02:21] <cork_ubuntu> who was looking for mplayer and multimedia on ubuntu?
[02:21] <_jason> cafuego:  are there any open source alternatives?
[02:21] <elad`> I want to completely get rid of the system bell in all of its forms.
[02:22] <hajiki> i love flash advertising, i dont use flash so i dont get the ads :)
[02:22] <erisco> oh wait i can see the macromedia text again... weird
[02:22] <calc> svg and something else iirc
[02:22] <cafuego_> _jason: there's no need for alternatives.
[02:22] <Dreamglider> kbrooks, mkdir /pc
[02:22] <elad`> I'm sick of the PC speaker beeping at me when I click backspace once more than necessary.
[02:22] <cafuego_> _jason: But yes, svg can do vector animations and AJAX can do interactivity.
[02:22] <kbrooks> Dreamglider: full command
[02:22] <erisco> is there a way i can dump my temporary internet files?
[02:22] <calc> of course IE doesn't even properly support png so don't worry about it ever supporting svg
[02:22] <erisco> maybe if i completely reload the application
[02:22] <cork_ubuntu> wolfsbaine, http://www.wlug.org.nz/UbuntuPostInstall
[02:22] <Dreamglider> kbrooks, that's what i did !
[02:22] <kbrooks> erisco: VERY VERY VERY easy
[02:23] <j0nas`> need to hide your porn eriso? ;)
[02:23] <cork_ubuntu> that shoudl help with all mplayer and multimedia stuff
[02:23] <erisco> then enlighten me kbrooks
[02:23] <cork_ubuntu> its how i got my stuff up and working easily wolfsbaine
[02:23] <j0nas`> erisco*
[02:23] <Dreamglider> root@regin:/etc/X11/xkb/symbols# mkdir /pc
[02:23] <Dreamglider> mkdir: cannot create directory `/pc': File exist
[02:23] <erisco> yeh get the name right bub
[02:23] <kbrooks> erisco: edit > preferences
[02:23] <Dreamglider> it wont let me :/
[02:23] <wolfsbaine> thanx m8 ;o) i'll have a read
[02:23] <hyphenated> Dreamglider: read the whole message
[02:23] <cork_ubuntu> wolfsbaine, its a shell script
[02:23] <cork_ubuntu> dont read, run ;-)
[02:24] <hyphenated> Dreamglider: especially the last two words
[02:24] <wolfsbaine> ok, i'll have a bash ;)
[02:24] <cork_ubuntu> lmao
[02:24] <cork_ubuntu> oh one snag wolfsbaine
[02:24] <erisco> strange.... a "clear temporary internet files" button is not hitting me in the head....
[02:24] <wolfsbaine> uh hu
[02:25] <erisco> i only see one for history... forms... etc
[02:25] <Dreamglider> well i'm trying to make a dir,  i know about the file called pc
[02:25] <cork_ubuntu> remove the shite about adobe
[02:25] <cork_ubuntu> that doesnt work for me
[02:25] <rob_p> elad`:  System --> Preferences --> Sound --> System Bell, uncheck, "Sound an audible bell" should do it.
[02:25] <elad`> Thanks.
[02:25] <kbrooks> erisco: privacy
[02:25] <wolfsbaine> cool no probs
[02:25] <erisco> yeah that is what i am in kbrooks
[02:25] <calc> erisco: privacy -> cache
[02:25] <wolfsbaine> i'll have a shot later
[02:25] <chsguy55> where can i download Quake at on leniux
[02:25] <wolfsbaine> sleep time now
[02:25] <kbrooks> cache -> clear
[02:25] <rob_p> elad`:  Also, http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/4204/lambda8ur.png
[02:25] <cork_ubuntu> rob_p, alternative turn pc off find wires connecting pc to speaker..and snip!
[02:25] <erisco> heh cool, ubuntu has a different lingo for it
[02:25] <cork_ubuntu> problem terminally fixed :-)
[02:25] <kbrooks> erisco: no
[02:25] <Dreamglider> hyphenated, i know there is a FILE called pc there but i need a DIR, /pc
[02:26] <rob_p> cork_ubuntu:  That works too :-)
[02:26] <Dreamglider> :/
[02:26] <calc> erisco: its the same for firefox on all platforms
[02:26] <hyphenated> Dreamglider: you can't.
[02:26] <erisco> yeah but i used to use ie (shudders)
[02:26] <kbrooks> erisco: firefox not ubuntu
[02:26] <cork_ubuntu> the bell drove me round the bend too, so i just cut it out
[02:26] <calc> erisco: i'm sorry :)
[02:26] <cork_ubuntu> you can always pipe the bell sound thru alsa
[02:26] <calc> erisco: you can also just hit the clear all if you want to nuke history/cache/passwords/etc
[02:26] <rob_p> elad`:  That's a version of your graphic with a transparent background...
[02:27] <erisco> calc, yeah i saw that neat little button... shiny....
[02:27] <Dreamglider> ok then how do i rename a file in terminal ?
[02:27] <erisco> um... well that dam thing still won't load
[02:27] <calc> Dreamglider: mv from to
[02:27] <erisco> the load bar goes, and that is the end of the show
[02:28] <elad`> rob_p: Thanks!
[02:28] <rob_p> elad`:  no problem!
[02:28] <erisco> dam and the game looks cool too
[02:28] <cork_ubuntu> im doing all this on just 128 megs of ram, xp wants that just to see the boot screen :-)
[02:28] <erisco> cork, yeah very true
[02:28] <elad`> rob_p: How did you go about it? I very meticulously copied the circle with the lambda, and then I pasted it into a transparent new background.
[02:29] <chsguy55> does anyone know a fun game to play? i kno its a stupid question but im bored
[02:29] <erisco> cork, vista... god i hate to see the mininum requirements
[02:29] <cafuego_> cork_ubuntu: To be fair, Breezy on 128Mb is no picnic either.
[02:29] <erisco> i am on 256
[02:29] <calc> chsguy55: i hear wesnoth is supposed to be fun
[02:29] <cafuego_> cork_ubuntu: it gets real crusty real fast on less then 512MB
[02:29] <cork_ubuntu> im on hoary
[02:29] <erisco> wesnoth?
[02:29] <erisco> i use hoary too, yay
[02:29] <cork_ubuntu> hope the 10 bucks i bid on ebay for another 128 works for me
[02:29] <Dreamglider> Hmm i renamed pc to pcBACKUP now i can still not make the dir /pc can anyone help me here ? :(
[02:29] <cork_ubuntu> lol
[02:29] <kbrooks> i uae breezy
[02:30] <calc>  Battle for control of villages, using variety of units which have advantages
[02:30] <calc>  and disadvantages in different types of terrains and against different types
[02:30] <calc>  of attacks.  Units gain experience and advance levels, and are carried over
[02:30] <calc>  from one scenario to the next campaign.
[02:30] <kbrooks> use*
[02:30] <calc> thats desc of wesnoth
[02:30] <calc> its in ubuntu universe
[02:30] <rob_p> elad`:  I used gimp.  I just copied only the circle and then pasted it into a new transparent png of the appropriate dimensions and then saved it.
[02:30] <erisco> calc! where do i get it! muahaha
[02:30] <cafuego_> Dreamglider: You're not allowed to make directories on the disk root (/). Use 'mkdir pc' instead.
[02:30] <calc> erisco: apt-get install wesnoth after you enable universe
[02:30] <elad`> Ah, just like I did.
[02:30] <erisco> enable universe? okay how do i do that =p
[02:31] <rob_p> elad`:  I guess so!
[02:31] <cafuego_> !repos
[02:31] <ubotu> repos is, like, totally, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[02:31] <calc> erisco: er turn it on in the package manager i think
[02:31] <cork_ubuntu> guys do you find 256mb ram ok for normal tasks?
[02:31] <calc> erisco: i do it with vi ;)
[02:31] <erisco> you mean my repositories?
[02:31] <nalioth> cork_ubuntu: barely
[02:31] <cork_ubuntu> i know occasionally editing photos in 128k with gimp it falls over
[02:31] <cafuego_> cork_ubuntu: Only just. Not if you're running Evolution, a bunch of Firefox windows, OpenOffice.org2 and Beagle.
[02:31] <calc> cork_ubuntu: i've found at work on regular debian sarge kde needs about 48MB minimum, not sure about gnome
[02:31] <cafuego_> cork_ubuntu: I have 1 GB and sometimes swap up to 300MB
[02:31] <calc> cork_ubuntu: haven't tried finding the minimum usable amount on ubuntu yet
[02:32] <cork_ubuntu> calc, first off evolution not my thing.  i use bare email
[02:32] <cork_ubuntu> browser based
[02:32] <calc> cork_ubuntu: mutt is cool :)
[02:32] <erisco> dam i got a bunch of 404
[02:32] <cork_ubuntu> openoffice, after i have my morning coffee?? lol
[02:32] <cafuego_> evolution works with beagle, makes my imap mail instantly searchable. is good.
[02:32] <cork_ubuntu> sorry but for me gnumeric most of the time
[02:32] <Dreamglider> how do i move/copy files in terminal ?
[02:32] <propagandhi83> can you customise usplash
[02:33] <cafuego_> grep on 6GB takes forever
[02:33] <cork_ubuntu> beagle just drags my machine to a crawl
[02:33] <erisco> oh god i got problems again.... go figure
[02:33] <cork_ubuntu> i love mutt too!!!
[02:33] <calc> cork_ubuntu: but yea you can make linux work very well in 256MB of ram depending on what you run
[02:33] <calc> cork_ubuntu: i used to run linux in 16mb
[02:33] <erisco> i am having problems with the two new firefox updates
[02:33] <erisco> they will not install
[02:33] <cafuego_> if all you need is mutt, 32Mb works fine too <heh>
[02:33] <cork_ubuntu> but i use a webapp on my host :-)
[02:33] <erisco> and it is screwing other things up too
[02:33] <bloodnik> Open Office isn't refreshing the window.
[02:33] <cafuego_> erisco: Disable hoary-extras, try again.
[02:34] <bloodnik> It's been in the background for quite a long time, and it's just showing me a grey screen with a title bar now
[02:34] <gigaclon> erisco are you using backports?
[02:34] <calc> supposedly ubuntu is taking ~ 800MB on my machine right now
[02:34] <cork_ubuntu> calc, it was flying in 32mb in redhat4, guess the distros did get bloated like other vendors
[02:34] <calc> though probably 300MB of that is firefox
[02:35] <calc> cork_ubuntu: i started using linux before redhat 1 was out iirc
[02:35] <calc> cork_ubuntu: but yea they get bloated the more they support, etc
[02:35] <calc> 16MB was plenty back then
[02:35] <cork_ubuntu> bloodnik, i used to use the oo2 beta, but the 1.3 tree is much more stable and quick on my machine
[02:35] <cork_ubuntu> oh god yeah calc!
[02:35] <calc> of course emacs was a slow pos ;)
[02:35] <propagandhi83> its only natural they're gonna get bigger with more apps and the ability to actually now compete as a desktop os
[02:36] <cork_ubuntu> calc, my fav editor for day to day use, aside from web stuff..is joe :-)
[02:36] <Dreamglider> how do i move/copy files in terminal ?
[02:36] <cork_ubuntu> was weaned on wperfect
[02:36] <erisco> ah, i found what you guys meant
[02:36] <calc> i'd imagine that linux is still pretty fast with 16MB of ram now if you use something like fluxbox and don't install packages much
[02:36] <erisco> repositories as i guessed
[02:36] <calc> dselect/aptitude eat memory
[02:36] <erisco> alright i removed them
[02:36] <haslguitar> why must wine be uninstalled to install winesetuptk?
[02:36] <bloodnik> cork, you reckon it's an oo2-beta thing?
[02:36] <cork_ubuntu> well i know the wife tried it and i almost lost a pc
[02:37] <erisco> let me log back in...
[02:37] <cork_ubuntu> thats all im saying bloodnik
[02:37] <calc> dpkg shows like its using 60MB ram on this box right now
[02:37] <bloodnik> kcool
[02:37] <cork_ubuntu> use the 1.x branch
[02:37] <bimberi> Dreamglider: mv to move, cp to copy
[02:37] <bloodnik> yessir
[02:37] <calc> at work though i run kde in sarge on vmware with 96MB of ram and its perfectly fine
[02:37] <cork_ubuntu> bloodnik, are you doing really powerful stuff or trying to just figure out how much your taxes are?
[02:38] <bloodnik> It was writer
[02:38] <bloodnik> I was writing a spec
[02:38] <cork_ubuntu> i dont bother with that
[02:38] <cork_ubuntu> much quicker is abiword
[02:38] <cork_ubuntu> print to a pdf file and the morons/suits dont know the difference
[02:39] <cork_ubuntu> and its getting better and better by the day
[02:39] <haslguitar> why must wine be uninstalled to install winesetuptk?
[02:40] <chsguy55> hey guys... i just downloaded wesnoth and i cant seem to find it under games... does anyone know where i can find it? i continue to have the same problem of downloading a game and not being able to find it...
[02:40] <cork_ubuntu> chsguy55, what are games?
[02:40] <cork_ubuntu> ;-)
[02:40] <durt> "locate wesnoth"
[02:40] <gigaclon> chsguy55, Gnome sucks at putting stuff in menus
[02:40] <bimberi> chsguy55: unfortunately not all packages add an entry to the menus.  Try "wesnoth" in a terminal
[02:40] <chsguy55> App > Games
[02:41] <chsguy55> thanks guys....
[02:41] <diesel> I have /dev/cdrom pointed to /cdrom in /etc/fstab.  How would I symlink a directory to /cdrom so that apps think that /dev/cdrom is mounted?
[02:41] <cork_ubuntu> right its 0140 here in irishland
[02:42] <cork_ubuntu> time for me to go beddy byes as i must go and sell more useless shit to stupid people tomorrow
[02:42] <selinium> chsguy55, use smeg to create a menu item.
[02:42] <cork_ubuntu> ooops sell value added products to my valued customers :-)
[02:42] <ZBlach> hi
[02:43] <ZBlach> anyone here know wireless networking well
[02:43] <ZBlach> ?
[02:43] <cork_ubuntu> ZBlach, sorry not i
[02:43] <jmg> can someone cat their /etc/fstab and tell me the line for swap?
[02:43] <cork_ubuntu> ZBlach, did you try using linuxhardware.org
[02:44] <ZBlach> its not so much a hardware issue as a software config thing
[02:44] <bimberi> jmg: /dev/hda7       none            swap    sw              0       0
[02:44] <jmg> bimberi: thanks
[02:44] <GDorn> well, that hosed everything but good
[02:44] <cork_ubuntu> oops
[02:44] <bimberi> jmg: yw :)
[02:44] <GDorn> update to breezy, nvidia drivers prevent me from getting into X.
[02:45] <ZBlach> every time i connect to my router, my breezy locks up
[02:45] <GDorn> any suggestions for uninstalling nvidia drivers so that I can do apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[02:45] <eXcentra> i need some help... i set my zxcv and b keys with a shortcut via keyboard shortcuts and then i unset them and then my zxcv and b keys stopped working. i'm sitting here copying and pasting
[02:45] <diesel> Perhaps a better way to ask is how would I mount, or symlink a directory as if it is on /dev/cdrom?
[02:45] <eXcentra> how do i reset the keys?
[02:46] <durt> gdorn - i think its "nvidia-uninstaller" or something - i think its in the docs
[02:47] <cork_ubuntu> GUYS: as an MCSE I know says when i ask "how do i do blah blah, in windows" his straight face stock answer is "with great difficulty" :-) just thought id share
[02:47] <Elsidox> can someone tell me how to get wma files to play? I cant find the w32codecs package in multiverse or universe
[02:47] <cork_ubuntu> Elsidox, http://www.wlug.org.nz/UbuntuPostInstall
[02:47] <Elsidox> cork_ubuntu, thanks
[02:47] <bimberi> ubotu tell Elsidox about w32codecs
[02:48] <cork_ubuntu> Elsidox, welcome
[02:48] <cork_ubuntu> bimberi, i did
[02:48] <Elsidox> bimberi, thanks
[02:49] <mylastmorning> does anyone know how to get a SNES emu working?
[02:49] <cork_ubuntu> mylastmorning, "with great difficulty"
[02:49] <Navatiu> heh
[02:49] <mylastmorning> cork_ubuntu, god why is it so hard with ubuntu?
[02:49] <cork_ubuntu> i gave up on mame
[02:49] <cork_ubuntu> its not ubuntu
[02:49] <cork_ubuntu> try doing it on an xp box
[02:49] <Elsidox> cork_ubuntu, so I just change my sourse list with this?
[02:50] <Navatiu> have you try snes9x? mylastmorning.
[02:50] <bimberi> cork_ubuntu: i know, although one of the issues with that NZ script is that it modifes the sources.list to point to the NZ repositories
[02:50] <cork_ubuntu> Elsidox, just run the script
[02:50] <Elsidox> cork_ubuntu, Im running breezy btw
[02:50] <cork_ubuntu> it worked for me
[02:50] <ZBlach> i'm also having great trouble with breezy
[02:50] <cork_ubuntu> oops
[02:50] <cork_ubuntu> Elsidox, not too sure with that
[02:50] <mylastmorning> Navatiu, I have but I don't know how to get it running.
[02:50] <cork_ubuntu> i only run released stable stuff that i can get to work
[02:50] <cork_ubuntu> im not upgrading to breezy for at least another 12 months
[02:50] <eXcentra> anybody?
[02:50] <webdwarf> thats no fun :P
[02:51] <webdwarf> i love dist-upgrading every day and hoping that my system still works
[02:51] <cork_ubuntu> webdwarf, ever had your wife throw the pc and the monitor at you?
[02:51] <Navatiu> ah mylastmorning.
[02:51] <bimberi> Elsidox: the breezy related link in the msg from ubotu should do then
[02:51] <cork_ubuntu> ie..simoltaneously?
[02:51] <GDorn> what should the driver entry be in xorg.conf for nvidia-glx?
[02:51] <Elsidox> bimberi, thanks again
[02:51] <bimberi> Elsidox: yw :)
[02:51] <Navatiu> well unzip it in your user folder then run it on konsole/console whatever like ./snes9x if that is app name.
[02:52] <hyphenated> eXcentra: sorry, haven't come across that problem before
[02:52] <mylastmorning> Navatiu do you know how to get it to work?
[02:52] <eXcentra> :|
[02:52] <durt> gdorn: "nvidia"
[02:52] <webdwarf> cork_ubuntu: cant convince my woman to switch from windows :(
[02:52] <Navatiu> well i am not running linux, but i did try snes9x once.
[02:52] <cork_ubuntu> ah see i did by keeping it "stable" and reliable
[02:53] <Navatiu> on previous SuSe 9.0 that is
[02:53] <selinium> eXcentra, what are you trying to do?
[02:53] <webdwarf> cork_ubuntu: unless you have a good replacement for macromedia fireworks and adobe illustrator its not gonna happen either :(
[02:53] <Navatiu> i dunno about ubuntu whatever suse9x probably work on it or not
[02:53] <Elsidox> ubotu tell Elsidox about totem-xine
[02:53] <eXcentra> reset my keys
[02:53] <ZBlach> i keep having to setup my network connection when i start breezy.
[02:53] <ZBlach> how can i fix this?
[02:53] <cork_ubuntu> webdwarf, if i swith every day shell throw it out
[02:53] <cork_ubuntu> no i dont
[02:53] <selinium> eXcentra, THat isn't very helpful, what is wrong?
[02:53] <durt> zblach, what do you mean?
[02:53] <eXcentra> i need some help... i set my zxcv and b keys with a shortcut via keyboard shortcuts and then i unset them and then my zxcv and b keys stopped working. i'm sitting here copying and pasting
[02:53] <hyphenated> eXcentra: do they work normally in a console session? (Ctrl+Alt+F1)
[02:53] <cork_ubuntu> webdwarf, look at the wine site, they have links to get them working under wine
[02:54] <hyphenated> eXcentra: (switch back with Ctrl+Alt+F7)
[02:54] <ZBlach> durt, every time i get my network running, and i reboot, i have to get it running again
[02:54] <cork_ubuntu> webdwarf, assuming of course youve got like a gb of ram in your machine
[02:54] <selinium> hyphenated, Wonder if you said that too late?
[02:54] <webdwarf> cork_ubuntu: her machine does, yes :P
[02:54] <cork_ubuntu> i on the underhand have just 128mb
[02:54] <hyphenated> selinium: indeed :-)
[02:54] <selinium> lol
[02:54] <ZBlach> and, usually, i have to try things too many times for it towork again
[02:54] <voth> what do i need in order to listen to mp3's under ubuntu?
[02:55] <durt> zblach, are you using ndiswrapper, and you have to modprobe it all the time?
[02:55] <cork_ubuntu> voth, install lame
[02:55] <GDorn> durt:  I have that, but startx says "failed to load nvidia kernel module"
[02:55] <selinium> !tell voth about mp3
[02:55] <sproingie> what's the format of a .deb, in case I wanted to unpack one manually?  or should i just use alien?
[02:55] <ZBlach> durt, yup. i'm using ndiswrapper. and what do you mean 'modprobe it every time'?
[02:56] <selinium> sproingie, Why would you unpack a deb?
[02:56] <durt> gdorn: when you run "sudo modprobe nvidia" what is the output?
[02:56] <sproingie> selinium: to eyeball a particular file in the .deb
[02:56] <cork_ubuntu> sproingie, use mc
[02:56] <cork_ubuntu> its a terminal app
[02:56] <cork_ubuntu> but a swiss knife too
[02:56] <GDorn> durt:  ahh.  module nvidia not found.  now what?
[02:57] <cork_ubuntu> mc is file manager, lets you look inside packed files
[02:57] <ZBlach> smaller note: what do I use to open .rar?
[02:57] <GDorn> zblach:  try 7zip
[02:57] <eXcentra> yes, it works in onsole mode
[02:57] <sproingie> i'll just alien it into a tgz
[02:57] <cork_ubuntu> does on my system :-)
[02:57] <eXcentra> and in the login sreen
[02:57] <jmonter> hello everyone
[02:57] <durt> zblach: ok, i take it the module loads fine - so i guess youre talking about the net setup...
[02:58] <maryj> Can i get some help , i want to print a document in open office but not working?
[02:58] <durt> gdorn: what response does "sudo insmod nvidia.ko" give?
[02:58] <cork_ubuntu> ok gang, bed time for paddy irish man here
[02:58] <cork_ubuntu> thanks for your help and all have fun
[02:58] <ZBlach> durt, yup. setup. i have to change the encryption protocol, but thats not an option in network-admin
[02:59] <webdwarf> seeya cork_ubuntu
[02:59] <jmonter> I recently downloaded ubuntu-5.10-preview-install-amd64 but have a problem with the X server. I have an ATI-9200SE video card.
[02:59] <GDorn> durt:  no such file or directory
[03:00] <jmonter> I have a couple of SimplyMepis and the distribution works fine, but than again its not using the new xorg
[03:00] <jmonter> Can anyone help me out?
[03:00] <ZBlach> ubotu, tell me about mp3
[03:00] <Navatiu> ubotu tell me about you
[03:00] <durt> zblach: so do you have to run some commands each time? in that case you could make a script
[03:00] <jvai> hey uall
[03:00] <gigaclon> !ubotu
[03:00] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[03:00] <elad`> "umount: /media/windows: device is busy"
[03:01] <Navatiu> :)
[03:01] <durt> gdorn: does "locate nvidia.ko" return anything?
[03:01] <ZBlach> durt, its not custom stuff, its just stuff to add to /etc/network/interfaces
[03:01] <ZBlach> ubotu, tell me about recursion
[03:01] <jmonter> anyone has problem with X and ATI-9200SE?
[03:02] <jvai> **
[03:02] <GDorn> durt:  yeah, in /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/video/.  only I'm on breezy, which is 2.6.12-9-386
[03:02] <ZBlach> ubotu, forget recursion
[03:02] <ubotu> ZBlach: i forgot recursion
[03:03] <durt> gdorn: reinstall it perhaps
[03:03] <GDorn> durt:  you mean apt-get install nvidia-glx?
[03:03] <durt> yeah
[03:03] <org> hello, someone can help me with fluxbox ?
[03:04] <GDorn> durt:  says I already have that...
[03:04] <bimberi> !ati
[03:04] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[03:04] <org> I have fluxbox and i'm trying to add an exec, but whenever i use fluxconf gui to add in the fluxmenu gui and then i press Save, it doesn't SAVE.
[03:04] <elad`> How do I unmount that NTFS system?
[03:04] <org> then i go to the fluxmenu again the gui, and its gone
[03:04] <org> is there any error with the save thingie?
[03:04] <bimberi> jmonter: the post from ubotu above might have something that helps
[03:04] <durt> gdorn: apt-get remove nvidia-glx; and then apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:04] <jmonter> thx
[03:05] <GDorn> durt:  doing that now.  I'm pretty sure I've done that already before, though
[03:05] <durt> zblach, what exactly do you do after each boot?
[03:05] <jvai> **
[03:05] <org> HELLO
[03:05] <jvai> i cannot changge my text color, it looks ghost'd out
[03:05] <GDorn> durt:  yeah, no change.
[03:05] <bimberi> elad`: do you have a shell open that is on your ntfs partition?  If so it won't unmount
[03:06] <eXcentra> so, how do i reset my keys?
[03:06] <ZBlach> durt. in no particular order and for no particular length of time: sudo ifdown wlano && sudo ifup wlan0 && iwconfig wlan0 enc open && sudo iwconfig essid ESSID commit
[03:06] <durt> gdorn: i have this when i locate nvidia.ko: /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/nvidia.ko
[03:06] <org> please someone can help me..
[03:07] <elad`> bimberi: Nope
[03:07] <bimberi> elad`: or some other process might have a file open on it
[03:07] <elad`> lsof | grep windows
[03:07] <elad`> No results.
[03:07] <WhyvasLT> is there like a development package?
[03:08] <WhyvasLT> so i can use make
[03:08] <bimberi> elad`: hm ok, that's me stumped then sorry
[03:08] <HrdwrBob> build-essential
[03:08] <elad`> build-essential
[03:08] <gigaclon> build-essential
[03:08] <WhyvasLT> in synaptics?
[03:08] <elad`> bimberi: thanks for trying
[03:08] <gigaclon> ya
[03:08] <ZBlach> ah yes. and what happened to the graphical grub editor
[03:08] <bimberi> elad`: yw :)
[03:08] <elad`> WhyvasLT: That's the exact name.
[03:08] <ScatterBrain> When I try to play dvd with mplayer - it basically freezes - no error messages or anything, mplayer just stops responding.
[03:09] <org> Guys HELLO, why you ignoring me
[03:09] <ZBlach> org, you haven't asked a question yet
[03:09] <ZBlach> well... except for that
[03:09] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: what's the last thing it says?
[03:09] <maryj> they just dio that
[03:09] <ZBlach> and you didn't have a '?' after it
[03:09] <org> ZBlach, sorry to disappoint you but i asked already, do you want me to ask again?
[03:09] <GDorn> durt:  hey, I nuked /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386, uninstalled and reinstalled nvidia-glx, and suddenly there's nvidia.ko in the right place.  but it doesn't show up in locate
[03:09] <ZBlach> org, yes. ask and if anyone knows anything, they'll answer
[03:09] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: It never says anything, I pick "play DVD" from the menu, and it just stops.
[03:09] <bimberi> org: we're not, it's probably that noone knows the answer :|
[03:10] <org> I have fluxbox and i'm trying to add an exec, but whenever i use fluxconf gui to add in the fluxmenu gui and then i press Save, it doesn't SAVE. it just doesn't save..
[03:10] <durt> org: the people at #fluxbox probably know best
[03:10] <eXcentra> So does anyody hae a solution to my prolem? it gets annoying to opy and paste......
[03:10] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: oh.. can you use the console one instead of the gui one? it'll have some messages (helpful or otherwise)
[03:10] <org> then i went to ~/.fluxbox/menu and edit it manualy, and i add the exec correctly, but it doesn't take the command
[03:10] <jvai> **
[03:10] <elad`> Would rebooting (either into Ubuntu or into Windows) be unwise before properly unmounting /media/windows/?
[03:10] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: eg: in a shell, type in 'mplayer dvd://1'
[03:10] <gigaclon> eXcentra, try System > Prefs > keyboard
[03:10] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: 'sec
[03:10] <org> durt, no because in fc4 i used fluxbox and the way i've done it, It works, but here in ubuntu it doesn't save, seems like a bug in ubuntu when i'm using the fluxbox WM?
[03:11] <yaaar> hey guys, what's the performance penalty of having samba sitting around idle? i've got my raid server running nfs right now (works great) and my network is all *nix. but every now and again somebody brings a winders laptop around the house, so i was thinking of setting samba up. think that's a good idea?
[03:11] <jvai> **
[03:11] <ZBlach> is there a breezy channel?
[03:11] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: and just tell us the last line, not all of it. it's pretty noisy :-)
[03:11] <hyphenated> (or use the paste link in the topic)
[03:11] <jvai> i cant fix my fonts in here, they look ghost'd out
[03:11] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: alsa-init: 1 soundcard failed, using: default
[03:11] <durt> gdorn: does "modprobe nvidia" work?
[03:12] <eythian> yaaar: even when it's being actively used (like in my case) samba doesn't make a noticible dent in performance.
[03:12] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: sorry, that should be 1 soundcard found...
[03:12] <bimberi> !tab
[03:12] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC.
[03:12] <yaaar> eythian: so when it's idle and i'm using nfs heavily, it's not going to get in the way?
[03:12] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: ah, nice. ok, in that shell again, kill mplayer, then run: mplayer -ao esd dvd://1
[03:12] <ZBlach> ubotu, recursion is tell ubotu about recursion
[03:12] <ubotu> ZBlach: okay
[03:12] <ZBlach> ^_^
[03:12] <org> no one uses fluxbox? Thats weird.
[03:12] <ZBlach> org, XMMS all the way
[03:13] <WhyvasLT> i used to use fluxbox
[03:13] <D1> noway
[03:13] <Navatiu> tell me about recursion
[03:13] <WhyvasLT> upgraded the laptop now
[03:13] <Navatiu> !tell me about recursion
[03:13] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: Now I get and error about signal 11 in module: decode_audio
[03:13] <GDorn> durt:  nope.  fatal, not found.
[03:13] <gigaclon> !recursion
[03:13] <ubotu> gigaclon: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:13] <Navatiu> bah
[03:13] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: hmm, not very nice
[03:13] <GDorn> durt: just rebooted in the hopes that it might find it, still nothing
[03:13] <ZBlach> guess someone killed recursion
[03:13] <eythian> yaaar, Nope, it should matter at all.
[03:13] <eythian> yaaar, shouldN'T
[03:13] <Stricklin> are there wmv codecs to be had somewhere?
[03:14] <yaaar> cool
[03:14] <Navatiu> yeah zblach
[03:14] <Navatiu> someone killed it, that bastard. heh
[03:14] <durt> gdorn: so how  do you know its in the right place if you cant locate it. run updatedb, then try locate
[03:14] <gigaclon> Stricklin, w32codecs
[03:14] <bimberi> ubotu tell Stricklin about w32codecs
[03:14] <Navatiu> !tell me about bush
[03:14] <gigaclon> !w32 codecs
[03:14] <ubotu> Wish i knew, gigaclon
[03:14] <Navatiu> heh
[03:15] <gigaclon> Navatiu, hes a stinking liar
[03:15] <mylastmorning> anyone know how to get a SNES emu to work?
[03:15] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: just to see how well it works, can you run: mplayer -nosound dvd://1
[03:15] <gigaclon> install it from synaptic
[03:15] <blue22> install zsnes
[03:15] <sproingie> anyone having problems with archive.ubuntu.com?
[03:16] <mylastmorning> blue22, how do I run it after?
[03:16] <blue22> zsnes
[03:16] <sproingie> hm my dns in general seems to be fritzed
[03:16] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: I get the video now...
[03:16] <blue22> snes9x?
[03:16] <ReleaseX> are there a lot of broken dependencies in the hoary repos?
[03:16] <GDorn> durt:  okay, updatedb done.  locate now says that nvidia.ko is in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile
[03:16] <blue22> what snes emu do youhave?
[03:17] <ken> hello
[03:17] <mylastmorning> I've got both blue22.
[03:17] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: ok. there is a problem with the decoder in the version available. That was the reason I compiled mplayer myself with a more recent version
[03:17] <blue22> i use zsnes
[03:17] <Navatiu> znes or ./znes? in my SNES 9.0 case, i use ./zsnes to run it.
[03:17] <blue22> i just run it
[03:17] <blue22> where did you get it?
[03:17] <durt> gdorn: and do modprobe nvidia or insmod nvidia.ko do anything?
[03:17] <bimberi> propa
[03:17] <mylastmorning> I got it from syn... blue22
[03:17] <kbrooks> ping
[03:17] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: Did you get a debain source package from somewhere?
[03:17] <jerryg> can someone point me to a url where i can generate a pub key so that i can update from nerim respository ?
[03:18] <blue22> ./ means its from your current directory
[03:18] <blue22> just type zsnes
[03:18] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: I don't know if there's a workaround for it though. it's pretty specific to the audio for dvds
[03:18] <elad`> To disable the clock syncronization on boot I should...?
[03:18] <nalioths_dog> jerryg, you dont need a key to install from nerim
[03:18] <mylastmorning> now how can I put this into the Applications menu blue22?
[03:18] <elad`> rm /etc/default/ntpdate?
[03:18] <nalioths_dog> jerryg, unless you are just distrustful
[03:18] <blue22> what version of ubuntu?
[03:18] <GDorn> durt:  well, if I actually go to that path and insmod it, it seems to install it, but then modprobe can't find it
[03:19] <bimberi> elad`: no
[03:19] <propagandhi> bimberi: were u talking to me?
[03:19] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: Did you get a debain source package from somewhere?
[03:19] <sproingie> goddammit, i have password auth turned off in sshd and i'm STILL getting brute-forced
[03:19] <ericz> ugh..
[03:19] <elad`> OK. What then?
[03:19] <jerryg> i get the following error whe i apt-get update after adding the source.  The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[03:19] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: don't remember, it was a while ago. the version I compiled is 1.0-pre7 (you're probably using 1.0-pre6)
[03:19] <ericz> anybody know anything about setting up ircd-ircu ?
[03:19] <propagandhi> jerryg: which source
[03:20] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: and you're not having a problem with it?
[03:20] <bimberi> propagandhi: kinda, i was actually going to see if you know about the ghost command (on freenode) :)
[03:20] <occy> cool little boot-up in breezy
[03:20] <occy> heh
[03:20] <ReleaseX> are there a lot of broken dependencies in the hoary repos?
[03:20] <bimberi> elad`: sudo rm /etc/rc*.d/S*ntp*
[03:20] <jerryg> this one:  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
[03:20] <sproingie> anyone have a decent iptables script to stop ssh brute force attacks?
[03:20] <jerryg> i'm just trying to install win32-codecs
[03:20] <jerryg> on breezy
[03:20] <hyphenated> ScatterBrain: nope. it's a bit of work, if you've never done it before
[03:21] <propagandhi> jerryg: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8763&highlight=nerim+gpg
[03:21] <kbrooks> !marillat
[03:21] <ubotu> kbrooks: Are you smoking crack?
[03:21] <propagandhi> bimberi: no i dont know of it
[03:21] <ScatterBrain> hyphenated: I've never done mplayer, but I have other things before.
[03:21] <jerryg> thank you propagandhi
[03:21] <propagandhi> jerryg: no prb
[03:21] <durt> gdorn: i guess you have to play with the path variables or something - i dont know how to do that. i guess you could try putting that path in xorg.conf, but i dont think that will work.
[03:21] <elad`> What does that rc stand for?
[03:21] <durt> remote control
[03:22] <kbrooks> ubotu: marillat is <reply>If you enable the marillat repoistories, please disable them after you use them as needed.
[03:22] <ubotu> okay, kbrooks
[03:22] <durt> race car
[03:22] <bimberi> propagandhi: if you lose you're client it's a way of getting your nick back when you reconnect - /msg nickserv help ghost - :)
[03:22] <p0windah> GDorn: hey, how'd you go with freenx ?
[03:22] <propagandhi> bimberi: cheers for that
[03:22] <stianh> hey guys, what do I need to type in a shell to take a screenshot
[03:22] <occy> kbrooks, arenn't you supposed to do that stuff in #debian-bots ?
[03:22] <blue22> just press printscreen
[03:23] <bimberi> propagandhi: yw :)
[03:23] <stianh> blue22, Im not in gnome
[03:23] <durt> gnome-screenshot, stianh
[03:23] <stianh> enligthenment
[03:23] <eythian> sproingie, In Debian (and probably Breezy) is fail2ban. See if you can install that, it blocks SSH attacks quite nicely.
[03:23] <GDorn> p0windah:  not so good.  it works, but it doesn't really do what I need it to. it can't convert a local session to a remote session or vice versa
[03:24] <kbrooks> occy: yes
[03:24] <bimberi> elad`: good question... :)
[03:24] <occy> kbrooks, ;)
[03:24] <p0windah> GDorn: ah ok, not sure if thats in the pipelines
[03:25] <ei_> how can i imstall gyach?
[03:26] <jerryg> how do i find a particular keyring for a specific responsitory ?
[03:26] <GDorn> durt:  oh, think I may have found something.  I don't have linux-restricted-modules for the right kernel installed.  trying that.
[03:26] <mylastmorning> does anyone play Ragnarok? or know how to make it run in ubuntu?
[03:27] <LivingTarget> do play it, havent had time to check it out on linux :)
[03:28] <GDorn> durt:  yup.  that did it.  shouldn't the upgrade to breezy have done that automatically?  is this a bug?
[03:28] <TokenBad> anyone know what would make firefox start crashing out of the blue?
[03:28] <TokenBad> over and over and over
[03:28] <p0windah> TokenBad: plugins
[03:29] <durt> gdorn: i dont know - i didnt have to do that, but i guess youre set now
[03:29] <agentfelix> how do i install ubantu?
[03:29] <agentfelix> ubuntu**
[03:30] <LivingTarget> agentfelix: have you got it on a disc?
[03:31] <kbrooks> agentfelix: d/l the cd (or get a cd), then (only if u dled the cd) burn it, then put it in your cd drive and reboot
[03:31] <ReleaseX> are there a lot of broken dependencies in the hoary repos?
[03:31] <kbrooks> ReleaseX: no. whats your problem
[03:31] <p0windah> hehe
[03:31] <mortal5> I need someone to help me out with my sound problems
[03:32] <mortal5> I've msg'ed ubotu sound
[03:32] <mortal5> read up on things
[03:32] <mortal5> the kernel, and modules are ok
[03:32] <ReleaseX> kbrooks, i was trying to apt-get install smeg and it was telling me that it had a dependency it couldn't meet
[03:32] <mortal5> well, i think
[03:32] <mortal5> from what I've seen...
[03:32] <Amaranth> ReleaseX: run this from a console: wget http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg && sudo python installsmeg
[03:33] <Amaranth> ReleaseX: the backports are broken
[03:33] <p0windah> mortal5: try   to    type    on     one     line    please.....
[03:33] <Amaranth> ReleaseX: At least for smeg
[03:33] <jmg> anyone got a howto for hostap in breezy?
[03:33] <mortal5> sorry
[03:33] <jmg> pcmcia is picking up as orinoco
[03:34] <jmg> i have built hostap
[03:35] <GDorn> I can't uninstall totem without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop?  bwah?
[03:36] <apokryphos> GDorn: yes, it's a metapackage
[03:36] <speel> hey is there any way to make direct connect work in gaim
[03:36] <LivingTarget> apokryphos: What's a metapackage :)
[03:36] <LivingTarget> ?
[03:36] <GDorn> apokryphos:  but totem can't play anything, basically.
[03:36] <apokryphos> !metapackage
[03:36] <ubotu> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[03:37] <GDorn> oh.  so I can uninstall it just fine?
[03:37] <apokryphos> you have to have ubuntu-desktop, for example, before you do dist-upgrades (pretty much)
[03:37] <p0windah> I'm not sure many would describe totem as "very useful" :)
[03:37] <occy> I hope totem is more useful in breezy than it was in Hoary/Warty
[03:37] <apokryphos> GDorn: ...otherwise you'll have problems.
[03:37] <_jason> speel:  I tihink my direct connect works in gaim as long as the other user also has gaim.  It seems to fail with people who use aim as their client.
[03:37] <occy> I could could never get totem to do ANYTHING at all.
[03:37] <speel> yea =/
[03:37] <oO_will_Oo> you have to install the plugins
[03:38] <oO_will_Oo> for most proprietary codecs
[03:38] <p0windah> occy: you can make it work, but you need to install extra software that is not officially supported by the ubuntu guys
[03:38] <oO_will_Oo> it works nice if you do though
[03:38] <_jason> occy:  try totem-xine
[03:38] <occy> p0windah, why do we ship it then?
[03:38] <occy> I mean
[03:38] <apokryphos> GDorn: you need the w32codecs and things to actually play films
[03:38] <p0windah> occy: aka, "legalities"
[03:38] <occy> why ship totem if it isn't working correctly
[03:38] <occy> it looks bad
[03:38] <apokryphos> occy: obviously it does work
[03:38] <occy> I think it's a totally bad idea.
[03:39] <apokryphos> but just not with propietary codecs
[03:39] <occy> apokryphos,  I have not gotten it to work with anything at all.
[03:39] <GDorn> apokryphos:  see, I have the w32codecs.  that doesn't make a difference.
[03:39] <pie> help!!
[03:39] <Stricklin> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54399 didn't work
[03:39] <occy> if it doesn't work out of the box, it shouldn't be shipped with Ubuntu
[03:39] <apokryphos> occy: so? How exactly did you deduce that it necessarily doesn't work, from that?
[03:39] <bob2> occy: what would you propose to replace it with?
[03:39] <apokryphos> GDorn: what are you trying to play?
[03:40] <occy> bob2, apparently there is nothing we can replace it with.
[03:40] <GDorn> if I could just get video to always open in mplayer, I'd be happy.  but the file browser seems to ignore what I tell it
[03:40] <occy> bob2, as all codecs are proprietary
[03:40] <occy> bob2, right?
[03:40] <p0windah> occy: not at all
[03:40] <occy> bob2, so don't ship the broken video software.
[03:40] <oO_will_Oo> no
[03:40] <bob2> occy: of course not
[03:40] <jerryg> has anyone succesfully installed win32-codecs tonight on breezy ?  if so i would very much appreciate your assistance in getting this code up and running.  i referenced the problem urls, tried all the possible solutions, though it seems like i keep on getting a dead end trying to install win32-codecs
[03:40] <oO_will_Oo> flac
[03:40] <jerryg> i am using amd64 platform
[03:40] <bob2> any discussion using "codecs" as a noun is broken
[03:40] <oO_will_Oo> umm
[03:40] <occy> bob2, heh
[03:41] <bob2> jerryg: how do you propose to make use of 32-bit windows DLLs on an amd64 system?
[03:41] <occy> bob2, I obviously don't know what I'm talking about, however, as a true end-user (as you can attest to)  It does not work for me in all the cases I've tried to use totem.
[03:41] <pie> Hi, i'm having a big problem.., afther installing Ubuntu (before there was XP), the soundcart does not function..Help!
[03:41] <bob2> occy: right, I also think totem sucks
[03:41] <occy> bob2, so, I say again, why ship something that is broken?
[03:41] <jerryg> bob2 are you saying i can't play mp3's on ubuntu 64 bit ?  i have an audigy 2 value just to hear the bootup sound ???
[03:41] <bob2> occy: apparently it works for some people
[03:41] <bob2> jerryg: wtf
[03:41] <occy> bob2, I mean, I love Bastien to death... but...
[03:41] <p0windah> occy: sadly most of the stuff you've tried to open is probably MS stuff
[03:41] <sunsun> hi i can't burn cdrecord doesnt see my cdburner
[03:41] <occy> heh
[03:41] <bob2> jerryg: why would you install w32codecs to play mp3s?
[03:41] <wasabi_> why would you need windows dlls for mp3s?
[03:42] <wasabi_> heh
[03:42] <occy> p0windah, I can grant you that.
[03:42] <occy> p0windah, :/
[03:42] <pie> Hi, i'm having a big problem.., afther installing Ubuntu (before there was XP), the soundcart does not function..Help!
[03:42] <bob2> jerryg: any media player on ubuntu can play mp3s
[03:42] <apokryphos> jerryg: /msg ubotu mp3
[03:42] <sunsun> cdrecord -v -dev=ATA: -scanbus gives problems with /dev/hda which is obviously not right
[03:42] <bob2> jerryg: /msg ubotu restricted
[03:42] <bob2> sunsun: ignore that
[03:42] <p0windah> occy: they arent eager to support alternative operating systems...
[03:42] <bob2> sunsun: sudo cdrecord -v dev=/dev/hda foo.iso
[03:42] <jerryg> thanks
[03:42] <bob2> sunsun: it will give warnings, but that's only because the cdrecord author has a crackpipe the size of my house
[03:42] <pie> Hi, i'm having a big problem.., afther installing Ubuntu (before there was XP), the soundcart does not function..Help!
[03:42] <bob2> pie: please stop repeating
[03:43] <pie> oeps..
[03:43] <occy> bob2, hey btw. :)
[03:43] <bob2> occy: hi :)
[03:43] <oO_will_Oo> pie: does it play the startup sounds?
[03:43] <pie> bob2: could you help?
[03:43] <occy> bob2, you've been helping me with Linux stuff now for what? 8 years?
[03:43] <occy> heh
[03:43] <bob2> occy: a large part of totem's problems seem to be esd-related, sadly
[03:43] <mortal5> I need help with my sound can *anyone* help me out here?
[03:43] <sunsun> bob2 it says error trying to open /dev/hda exclusively device or resource busy?
[03:43] <HrdwrBob> bob2: that's because esd makes baby jesus cry
[03:43] <mortal5> I've been reading the docu
[03:43] <bob2> sunsun: mount | grep hda
[03:43] <occy> bob2, I think I need to take you out for a beer one day.
[03:44] <bob2> occy: hah
[03:44] <occy> bob2, :)
[03:44] <propagandhi> occy: dont get all mushy
[03:44] <sunsun> ok /dev/hda1 on / and /dev/hda6 on /home?
[03:44] <pinko_> hello.  in ubuntu, what is the program that selects an audio device?
[03:44] <bob2> I've only been using linux since 1999, so you should lend me your time machine as well as your beer ;p
[03:44] <occy> propagandhi, hehe
[03:44] <pie> o0_will_0o:no, it doesn't play anything
[03:44] <dooglus> my wnck-applet has gone transparent, whereas it's always been opaque in the past.  is that a deliberate change?
[03:44] <occy> well
[03:44] <sunsun> bob2 ok /dev/hda1 on / and /dev/hda6 on /home?
[03:44] <occy> bob2, I can't count either.
[03:44] <bob2> sunsun: right, trying to burn using a hard disk probably won't work ;)
[03:45] <bob2> pie: what sound card do you have?
[03:45] <occy> bob2, but I know it's been a while.   I try poff, and it disconnects, but wvdial always tries to repeatedly reconnect.
[03:45] <pinko_> bob2: there is an alsaconf in debian that does not seem to exist in the equivalent ubuntu package.
[03:46] <bob2> Stricklin: 32-bit windows dlls are not going to work with a amd64 mplayer binary
[03:46] <occy> bob2, you have to be very humble and respect those who take their own personal time out to help other people.  (like you and crimsun and others do)
[03:46] <bob2> pinko_: you have an on-board sound card?
[03:46] <oO_will_Oo> pie: try the instructions on http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[03:46] <occy> anyway
[03:46] <occy> enough ass kissing
[03:46] <sunsun> hi i can't burn cdrecord doesnt see my cdburner
[03:46] <occy> ;)
[03:46] <pinko_> bob2: yes
[03:46] <p0windah> occy: dont stop
[03:46] <Amaranth> !ubuntuguide
[03:46] <ubotu> well, ubuntuguide is out of date, breaks PCs and doesn't explain anything. The official FAQ Guide, which is based on ubuntuguide will soon be the help menu in Breezy. For more information see !faq.
[03:46] <occy> bob2++
[03:46] <Amaranth> hrm
[03:46] <bob2> pinko_: what does "lspci | grep -i multi" print out?
[03:46] <occy> p0windah, heh
[03:46] <oO_will_Oo> !faq
[03:46] <ubotu> hmm... faq is The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://ubuntu-doc.ath.cx/gnome/faqi386/C/
[03:46] <bob2> sunsun: eh?  you need to point it at your cd burner
[03:46] <bob2> sunsun: hda is a hard disk
[03:46] <sunsun> anyone know what the target that is the equivalent of debain "testing" would be?
[03:47] <Amaranth> oh, i'm lagging
[03:47] <bob2> sunsun: presumably hdc would be your burner
[03:47] <occy> 85% of breezy install complete.
[03:47] <bob2> sunsun: there's no equivalent of testing
[03:47] <pie> o0_will_0o: I did, but the hardware doesn't responds
[03:47] <oO_will_Oo> hmm
[03:47] <bigcx2> bob2: multimedia controllers
[03:47] <bob2> erk
[03:47] <speel> hey when is breezy coming out? the 18th?
[03:47] <bob2> pie: hat does "lspci | grep -i multi" print out?
[03:47] <occy> speel, /topic
[03:47] <apokryphos> speel: /topic
[03:47] <webdwarf> speel: topic
[03:47] <occy> hehe
[03:47] <bob2> pinko_: is it possible to disable it in the BIOS?
[03:48] <P229> when I try to resume from "suspend," the screen goes all white (pretty bright, too), any idea what's going on and how I can fix it?
[03:48] <bigcx2> bob2 is just told you
[03:48] <sunsun> bob2 what does grep | cat do?
[03:48] <WhyvasLT> play wmvs ?
[03:48] <occy> apokryphos, webdwarf I win!
[03:48] <oO_will_Oo> pie: can't help you there, then.  Ubuntu's always worked mostly fine for me.  It's package dependencies that screw me up.
[03:48] <bob2> sunsun: nothing
[03:48] <WhyvasLT> is there something in synaptics?
[03:48] <speel> o ok :) thanks
[03:48] <sunsun> bob2 oh.  what about grep | xmms
[03:48] <P229> dell inspiron 8200, nvidia card, 5.10 preview
[03:48] <pinko_> bob2: I'll start it up again in a little while.  I think I can disable it in bios, and I do have another sound card I'd like to use.
[03:48] <apokryphos> occy: I'm blaming it on my internet lag :P
[03:48] <pie> bob2: don't know yet,
[03:48] <bob2> P229: not much people can do here, filing a bug would be the best thing to do
[03:48] <occy> *chuckle*
[03:48] <fivre> k, I think my question was eaten by the lag beast
[03:48] <fivre>  how do you disconnect with wvdial? I try poff, and it disconnects, but wvdial always tries to repeatedly reconnect.
[03:49] <creatin> anyone ever get WiFi working on ubuntu? or know how to?
[03:49] <bob2> P229: bugzilla.ubuntu.com, on the linux component, cc mjg59.  include model numbers, dmesg output and whether you're using any binary-only drivers.
[03:49] <occy> fivre, sudo poff ?
[03:49] <bigcx2> creatin: yes
[03:49] <bigcx2> what kind of wireless card are you using
[03:49] <occy> fivre, it's been forever since I've used dial-up.  Sorry. :(
[03:49] <bob2> pinko_: if you can disable the on-board one, ubuntu will use the other right awat
[03:49] <creatin> broadcom
[03:49] <bob2> WhyvasLT: mplayer, in multiverse
[03:49] <bob2> sunsun: that also does nothing
[03:49] <fivre> would sudo poff work any better than regular poff?
[03:49] <bigcx2> i have a broadcom card and i had to use ndiswrapper but it does work
[03:50] <bigcx2> some broadcom cards are supported
[03:50] <sunsun> bob2 oh i meant xmms | grep what does that do?
[03:50] <bigcx2> you have to check their site
[03:50] <yawgmoth7> What do you think this means "alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[03:50] <yawgmoth7> " I ogt that error after using modprobe to load my soundcard module, i found some stuff on google, but you guys always seem to help me fix my probelm >:|
[03:50] <P229> bob2: will do
[03:50] <bob2> creatin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[03:50] <bob2> creatin: assuming it's too late to take it back and get one with a linux driver
[03:50] <bob2> yawgmoth7: what module did you load?
[03:50] <yawgmoth7> emu10k1
[03:50] <p0windah> has anyone here ever used the ubuntu inline help successfuly ?
[03:50] <marz> When I run the following:  sudo mount -t iso9660 doom3-CD1.iso /mnt/cdrom/ -o loop, I'm told that /mnt/cdrom does not exist. How do I find out how to mount something to my cd rom drive?
[03:50] <bob2> fivre: should do, but I don't know if it works with wvdial at all
[03:51] <bob2> yawgmoth7: you want snd_emu10k1, not emu10k1
[03:51] <pie> o0_will_0o: it seems to make a little sound when i move my mouse, so it must be a driver conflict
[03:51] <creatin> bob2: yeah got it 2 years ago
[03:51] <p0windah> the glaring absence of search drives me crazy
[03:51] <fivre> also, is there an easier way to modify file permissions than with chmod?
[03:51] <bob2> marz: sudo mkdir /mnt/cdrom
[03:51] <sunsun> cdrecord -scanbus -dev=ATA: looks up /dev/hda, anyone except bob2 know how to fix this?
[03:51] <yawgmoth7> ..............Crap, its that simple, jeez
[03:51] <marz> bob2: thank you
[03:51] <yawgmoth7> Thanks AGAIN bob2
[03:51] <bigcx2> sudo mount -t iso9660 /media/cdrom -o loop
[03:51] <bob2> fivre: your file manager can do it for files you own
[03:51] <Cynicle> hey is it possible to print of a hp pc1350 connected to a windows computer with ubunatu?
[03:51] <occy> bob2, if I get breezy preview (Colony 5) and apt-get dist-upgrade on the 13th, will I have the final breezy?
[03:51] <satafterh> I have a question, I have kubuntu breezy installed, when system is starting it has the unbuntu startup streen, how can i change this
[03:51] <bob2> yawgmoth7: (emu10k1 is the old OSS module, snd_emu10k1 is the ALSA one)
[03:51] <bob2> yawgmoth7: np
[03:52] <bob2> marz: np
[03:52] <p0windah> occy: yes
[03:52] <bob2> sunsun: ignore that, just find out what your burner is called some other way
[03:52] <occy> p0windah, ahh ok
[03:52] <bob2> occy: if you follow the upgrade notes, yes
[03:52] <creatin> bigcx2 | bob2: if i have the windows drivers can i use thos?
[03:52] <occy> bob2, ahhh
[03:52] <p0windah> occy: there may be some minor teething problems on the way
[03:52] <pie> o0_will_0o: thank you for responding, I'm leaving for my bed, been busy for 14 ouhr to have the sound starting..., goodnight!
[03:52] <bob2> occy: the only difference would be the installer might do things slightly differently, which you might need to do yourself on upgrade
[03:52] <fivre> well, assuming I don't own them, should starting Nautilus or whatever with sudo work?
[03:52] <bob2> creatin: read that page (yes)
[03:52] <occy> nod
[03:52] <bob2> fivre: gksudo nautilus, yeah