[08:59] <Amaranth> Cam: Good news for the future though: With Windows x64 in RC1 more devices should have 64-bit Windows drivers and someone will probably make a version of ndiswrapper that works for them.
[08:59] <^_^> 0_0
[08:59] <linux_galore> Konlied: geek drool factor 10+
[09:00] <linux_galore> heh heh
[09:00] <Cam> yep. tied back by lazy windows developers ;)
[09:00] <Cam> always the way
[09:00] <linux_galore> Konlied: IBM have a good page looking at all the different fs's and a chart with all the features
[09:01] <dayson> I need cedega
[09:01] <linux_galore> wonder if IBM updated it
[09:01] <poof> OMG XFCE has a bunch of windoe themes :) I am haveing a very good time with this :)
[09:01] <nicedreams> tha_gm|onaquest, can you msg me, i can't find how to do it in xchat, i'm used to bitchx
[09:01] <linux_galore> lol
[09:01] <Amaranth> Konlied: http://www.namesys.com/v4/v4.html <-- this might tell you how large reiser4 allows
[09:02] <linux_galore> yeah my hacktop usually runs XFCE when not running cli
[09:02] <poof> i like it :)
[09:02] <linux_galore> only got 64mb of ram on it
[09:03] <poof> BRB i am going to restart really quick...
[09:03] <linux_galore> poof: I ran xfce on a Xeon (P4) just for fun..boot up in like 3 seconds after the services are run
[09:04] <^_^> i got a 16mb 486. anything i can do with it?
[09:04] <linux_galore> hmm Im dying to play with oO 2.0
[09:04] <linux_galore> (openoffice.org)
[09:05] <Cam> hrmm dammit i got a old warty-rc iso
[09:05] <Cam> :|
[09:05] <nicedreams> tha_gm|onaquest, did you get it, it said dcc closed so i dunno
[09:05] <linux_galore> ^_^: try debian or minislack on it
[09:06] <tha_gm|onaquest> nicedreams dcc didn't come through,  i'm getting the paste in pvt though
[09:06] <linux_galore> ^_^: even better  try "damn small linux"
[09:06] <linux_galore> comes with a X small server
[09:07] <nicedreams> oh
[09:07] <nicedreams> k
[09:07] <Konlied> linux_galore: that namesys reiser page is comedy gold
[09:07] <Konlied> mind you, poser always is
[09:08] <linux_galore> Konlied: hmm let me open it
[09:08] <Konlied> http://www.namesys.com/r4pics/linuxsecureJ.jpg
[09:08] <Konlied> http://www.namesys.com/r4pics/withoutpluginsJ.jpg
[09:08] <tha_gm|onaquest> nicedreams  did you get my message
[09:09] <linux_galore> Konlied: yeah a good case of how not to tell people what your doing....man can I have a book with that
[09:11] <linux_galore> its amazing IBM wrote a pretty detailed web page on resierfs and it was like 4 paragraphs lol
[09:12] <Synek> hello
[09:13] <nicedreams> are there any sites that have debs like www.filemirrors.com?
[09:14] <linux_galore> nicedreams: I usually look on google.com/linux
[09:14] <crimsun> nicedreams: not that I know of. There are unofficial repos (ubuntu-bp, etc.), but those are not supported by Ubuntu at all.
[09:14] <crimsun> when your system breaks, you get to clean up the mess.
[09:14] <linux_galore> (for unofficial mirrors)
[09:15] <dayson> okay I installed BitTornado using apt-get but now how do I run it? I downloaded some torrent files to my desktop that I want to run
[09:15] <linux_galore> yeah Ive been sticking to Ubuntu (official) mirrors..keeps the breakage down
[09:15] <linux_galore> otherwise I just compile it
[09:15] <Amaranth> dayson: double click one of the .torrent files
[09:16] <dayson> Amaranth, says cannot display
[09:16] <dayson> should I restart or something?
[09:16] <Amaranth> ok, you need to do it from the terminal
[09:16] <Amaranth> btdownloadgui sometorrentfile.torrent
[09:17] <tha_gm|onaquest> is there any nice menu for starting/stopping services at boot time?
[09:17] <dayson> where should I save it too? I'm so new to linux I have no idea what I'm doing
[09:21] <linux_galore> you can also try btdownloadgui  and click on the torrent file
[09:23] <dayson> linux_galore, do you know how to mount a usb drive? I'm having a problem with that as well
[09:23] <dayson> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=275506
[09:23] <linux_galore> dayson: check under /mnt/media might be mounted already
[09:24] <dayson> linux_galore, I dont have a /mnt/media dir I have a usb dir in /mnt but it has a red x over it
[09:25] <linux_galore> dayson: tried usbview see if the system even see's it
[09:26] <dayson> dayson@Todd:~/Desktop $ usbview
[09:26] <dayson> bash: usbview: command not found
[09:27] <linux_galore> hmm
[09:27] <crimsun> it's in hoary/universe, can't speak for warty
[09:28] <zenrox> its in wertys too
[09:28] <crimsun> there ya go, dayson
[09:29] <linux_galore> usually I mount it with  mount -t  vfat  /dev/sda  /mnt/wherever
[09:29] <nicedreams> Is there a way to it to where if I select a kernel to load from grub that it will load with a modified list of services that I want to start whith that selection from grub?
[09:30] <linux_galore> oops
[09:31] <dayson> how do I install a .deb file/
[09:31] <crimsun> sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[09:31] <dayson> dumb question I know
[09:32] <JDahl> dayson, are you downloading .deb files with torrent?
[09:32] <dayson> yes
[09:32] <crimsun> recipe for disaster. mm.
[09:32] <dayson> why?
[09:32] <dayson> I'm new so please explain
[09:33] <dayson> subprocess dpkg-split returned error exit status 2
[09:33] <dayson> I got an error
[09:33] <crimsun> that's the least of your worries, dayson.
[09:33] <dayson> why?
[09:33] <crimsun> for one, you can't verify the source of debs downloaded from a torrent.
[09:33] <linux_galore> you can look under /proc/scsi/  for there the drive is mounted
[09:34] <crimsun> dayson: would you download a random .exe from a torrent?
[09:34] <linux_galore> also a nice link on using USB devices with hotplug -> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Flash-Memory-HOWTO/linux-2.6.html#hotplug
[09:34] <dayson> depends
[09:35] <dayson> I just want to play games
[09:35] <dayson> I need cedega
[09:35] <linux_galore> yeah beware there "IS" malware for Linux now
[09:35] <crimsun> dayson: does needing cedega because you want to play games preclude any sense of safety you might have? ;)
[09:35] <linux_galore> dayson: if you want to play games get a console
[09:36] <crimsun> dayson: no one can verify that the deb hasn't been created by a malicious user
[09:36] <dayson> negative I want to play HL
[09:37] <tha_gm|onaquest> linux_galore: wait wait wait a minute, can you send me some info/links about this malware for linux?
[09:37] <linux_galore> tha_gm|onaquest: slashdot has an article about 3 weeks ago warning about malware on Linux
[09:37] <JDahl> dayson, you found a site with a .deb for cedega (whatever that is) and you dont know how to install it? I dont how well Ubuntu handles Debian .debs
[09:37] <randabis-wireles> finally...
[09:37] <randabis-wireles> damn this hoary update has been hell
[09:38] <dayson> JDahl, I dont know any other way to do it
[09:38] <crimsun> JDahl: both the cedega and point2play*debs installs fine.
[09:38] <crimsun> install^
[09:38] <JDahl> dayson, provided you trust the package do the have a binary package? or what does other people here have to say about mixing debs?
[09:38] <dayson> I guess so
[09:39] <tha_gm|onaquest> linux_galore, thanks i'll go read it!
[09:39] <dayson> if not I can always format again it would be the 5 time today
[09:39] <crimsun> dayson: you trust a bit too blindly.
[09:39] <linux_galore> forks the ubuntu cd for Ubuntu "Gamerz Edishion"  lol
[09:39] <dayson> crimson I just want it working at this point I've been trying for hours
[09:39] <linux_galore> tha_gm|onaquest: I can dig up the link if you havent got time
[09:40] <linux_galore> noticed someone has made a Knoppix version full of games
[09:40] <dayson> yeah but I hear they arent all they great
[09:40] <linux_galore> dayson: never tried it
[09:41] <tha_gm|onaquest> linux_galore np np i can find it, help out carlot with ntfs  and nicedreams with boot-time service loading, thats what i need help with 6-6
[09:41] <dayson> linux_galore, I just read about it
[09:41] <linux_galore> aaah
[09:41] <crimsun> dayson: well, it's your machine and I'm not going to try and prevent you. Just be aware of the pitfalls.
[09:42] <linux_galore> yeah I saw it flash by me on a web page..Im not a gamer so it didnt bother me
[09:42] <dayson> crimsun, thanks for the warning I've lost everything today already so I have nothing to lose other then an hours time
[09:42] <linux_galore> tha_gm|onaquest: I use an application called "captive" for ntfs
[09:42] <tha_gm|onaquest> yea i heard of that
[09:42] <linux_galore> tha_gm|onaquest: captive gives me read and write and delete on a ntfs partition
[09:42] <tha_gm|onaquest> he can mount it fine for read only, all he needs, he just can't mount it as regular user is  all
[09:42] <tha_gm|onaquest> root mounts it np
[09:43] <linux_galore> tha_gm|onaquest: has a nice no brainer intaller
[09:43] <linux_galore> installer*
[09:43] <dayson> I've heard of captive but I have no idea how to install it or make it work
[09:43] <dayson> I need it though :(
[09:43] <linux_galore> wtf captive|tail -3:
[09:43] <linux_galore> http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[09:43] <linux_galore> (2004-05-06)
[09:43] <tha_gm|onaquest> linux_galore: no brainer is good ^_^
[09:43] <Keemy> will ubuntu work OK on a 350mhz pentium with 192 MB of ram? or should i look to another distro?
[09:43] <linux_galore> I was amazed Ubuntu didnt have it its gtk based and is already a no brainer app
[09:44] <Amaranth> Keemy: It might run a little slow but it should be ok.
[09:44] <VR^> could anyone point me to a howto or a tutorial? i'm trying to get my cable modem to work - i have a toshiba pcx2500
[09:44] <crimsun> Keemy: 192 MB RAM? Yes, fine. GNOME might be a little sluggish; try XFce4.
[09:44] <Konlied> Keemy: I run it on less than that
[09:44] <JDahl> dayson, 99% of the questions in here are about people with either 3D problems or sound problems... As long as you're so new to linux, maybe stick with Windows for playing games...
[09:44] <linux_galore> Keemy: work fine
[09:44] <Konlied> GNOME works fine. Yes a little sluggish but faster than ever
[09:44] <Amaranth> captive isn't included in Ubuntu because in order to use it you need a Windows NT, 2k, XP, or 2k3 license
[09:45] <Amaranth> or you need to break the law
[09:45] <tha_gm|onaquest> linux_galore, any ideas how  to get user access to ntfs partition in fstab?
[09:46] <Konlied> s/suing/using
[09:46] <linux_galore> windows isnt that good for games...i just use a console......faster to turn on and now can network via my lan router as standard....also many games are turning up on consoles months before the PC platform and in some cases never on the PC platform
[09:46] <Konlied> I'm particularly fond of console emulators
[09:46] <JDahl> I guess my point was to use anything but linux, until he's more familiar with it
[09:46] <linux_galore> tha_gm|onaquest: captive does all that for you it edits the fstab file
[09:47] <Keemy> does ubuntu come with just 1 kernel?
[09:47] <linux_galore> tha_gm|onaquest: if you use the default ntfs patch in the kernel and mount the ntfs partition it only gives you "read"
[09:47] <tha_gm|onaquest> linux_galore can you send me the output of your fstab ? pvt chat is cool
[09:48] <linux_galore> tha_gm|onaquest: I dont use winder eeer "EVER" so Im useless
[09:48] <linux_galore> tha_gm|onaquest: had to install captive for the sales manager few weeks ago
[09:48] <tha_gm|onaquest> linux_galore: yea i'm totally anti-w1nb10ws too
[09:49] <Amaranth> linux_galore: Do you have a spare (unused) Windows license to go with that install of Captive?
[09:49] <linux_galore> I work in a "98%" Linux company we have a few winderz machines but there all dual boot
[09:49] <tha_gm|onaquest> linux_galore,  i wanna work in your company
[09:49] <linux_galore> Amaranth: lol not spare no
[09:49] <Amaranth> linux_galore: Don't tell the BSA.
[09:49] <Keemy> are there anyproblems with propietary liceses with linux
[09:50] <linux_galore> I think the company has like 20 or so win9x licenses we never use
[09:50] <Amaranth> Keemy: Technically you can't even playback MP3 files without infringing on a patent.
[09:50] <PurpleFly> tha_gm|onaquest: /dev/hdd1       /mnt/h          captive-ntfs    dmask=777,fmask=666      0       0
[09:50] <PurpleFly> /dev/hdd1       /mnt/h          ntfs    ro,dmask=0222,fmask=0333      0       0
[09:50] <Amaranth> win9x won't cut it, afaik
[09:50] <linux_galore> Keemy: no you can run proprietry software on Linux if you want
[09:51] <tha_gm|onaquest> PurpleFly thanks~!
[09:51] <Amaranth> Oh, I misunderstood the question.
[09:51] <crimsun> Amaranth: decoding is legal, encoding is another matter.
[09:51] <PurpleFly> no trouble
[09:51] <Amaranth> crimsun: Then why do both Ubuntu and Fedora leave it out?
[09:52] <linux_galore> Philips have this weird asses license on the mp3 stuff
[09:52] <crimsun> Amaranth: because it's questionable whether you can distribute a binary executable of it.
[09:52] <linux_galore> or is that Thomson
[09:52] <Amaranth> crimsun: Yeah, like xvid.
[09:52] <Vince-0> What do I get from synaptic to have KDE on my Ubuntu ?
[09:52] <Amaranth> The developers technically can't legally use their own codec.
[09:52] <Keemy> what about the winmodems drivers?
[09:52] <linux_galore> if you and individual playing mp3 for private use there is no charge if your a company distributing the decoder there "maybe" a charge
[09:53] <Konlied> yet another reason to use OGG
[09:53] <Konlied> ogg vorbis fukkin OWNS
[09:53] <tha_gm|onaquest> ogg for life!
[09:53] <linux_galore> yeah there are online music stores now selling ogg and flac files
[09:53] <tha_gm|onaquest> i just wish  iPods had ogg support... there is rumour of it though
[09:53] <Keemy> what'sa good model serial modem.. analog?
[09:54] <Konlied> of course, ape is the standard of the future but ogg rules at low bitrates
[09:54] <PurpleFly> Anyone here that uses rhythmbox???
[09:54] <Amaranth> ogg is just a container
[09:54] <crimsun> Konlied: surely you just regarding ape.
[09:54] <crimsun> jest^
[09:54] <linux_galore> good example of an online shop selling ogg and flac format music files --> http://www.mindawn.com/
[09:54] <Konlied> crimus: why, what's wrong with ape?
[09:55] <linux_galore> also there is Artistic Commons stuff were you can download the files legally
[09:55] <crimsun> Konlied: highly non-portable and the license is less than appealing just to name two.
[09:55] <linux_galore> for free
[09:55] <Vince-0> Whats the filename for KDE installer in synaptic ?
[09:56] <crimsun> Vince-0: 'kde-core' in the 'universe' repo
[09:56] <linux_galore> http://artists.iuma.com/
[09:56] <linux_galore> free legal stuff
[09:56] <Konlied> crimsun: ah, I see. I mean it was a good standard in terms of quality. I guess we might as well just start rippnig our cds as ISOs
[09:56] <Keemy> where is the kernel source?
[09:56] <crimsun> Konlied: "quality?" there are a bevy of lossless codecs.
[09:56] <Vince-0> crimsun: thnkz
[09:56] <crimsun> Keemy: linux-source-<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:56] <linux_galore> Vince-0: just install kde-common then it should ask for all the other stuff
[09:57] <linux_galore> Vince-0: kde isnt a single file its about 28 of them
[09:57] <Konlied> crimsun: sadly few people have heard of lossless codecs outside of monkey audio
[09:57] <Konlied> including me
[09:57] <Vince-0> linux_galore: I will try get setup files off website or summing
[09:57] <Amaranth> Konlied: FLAC?
[09:58] <linux_galore> Vince-0: kde is in the Ubuntu repository
[09:58] <Konlied> Amaranth: looks interesting
[09:58] <Keemy> does the live cd identify hardware the same as a regular install?
[09:58] <linux_galore> Keemy: yep
[09:58] <Keemy> ok cool
[09:59] <fishmonger> Howdy all.
[09:59] <Vince-0> linux_galore: yes , but if I format again - I gotta D/L it again .. .rather get the setups
[09:59] <linux_galore> although i found the lice CD wouldn't network for me
[09:59] <poof> Hello
[09:59] <linux_galore> live*
[09:59] <fishmonger> Did anyone here have constant trouble with HAL in Warty?
[09:59] <crimsun> Konlied: I think that's a myopic view
[09:59] <linux_galore> Vince-0: just get synaptic to download the packages dont know what your going on about
[09:59] <crimsun> Konlied: long before ape was popular, there were shns
[10:00] <fishmonger> My laptop locks very soon after HAL starts, every time.  I can't even get through a boot without the laptop locking.
[10:00] <linux_galore> Vince-0: you dont have to reinstall to use kde
[10:00] <Vince-0> linux_galore: I want setup files I can keep if I format sometime later
[10:00] <linux_galore> Vince-0: aah you mean you want /home  on a seperate partition
[10:01] <Keemy> i'm no expert, but sometimes when you wiggle the wires is back it helps, thank you.
[10:01] <tha_gm|onaquest> (all i know is I can encode an ogg at 56kbbs and still enjoy it, where I can't dothat with a 96kbbps mp3 (stereo bitrates)
[10:01] <linux_galore> Vince-0: the kde setup files are in the users home directory
[10:01] <poof> I am forced to install a DEB package, should I go for the testing or the unstable for warty?
[10:01] <Vince-0> linux_galore: so I can put them on CD from there ?
[10:01] <Keemy> how big should / be.. say in a 4. gig space?
[10:02] <linux_galore> Vince-0: yes you need to copy the .kde*  stuff
[10:02] <Keemy> 4.5
[10:02] <Vince-0> linux_galore: thnkz
[10:02] <linux_galore> hmm ~/.kde*
[10:03] <Keemy> if you were buying a new computer right now, would bus speed be your big priority?
[10:03] <fishmonger> Keemy: what are you looking at?
[10:04] <fishmonger> desktop/laptop?
[10:04] <Vince-0> Get a AMD burton chip - highest bus and a NVdia gfx card
[10:04] <Keemy> desktop
[10:04] <linux_galore> oooh cool mindawn.com have a player like itunes for the itunes website
[10:04] <fishmonger> I'm partial to Intel hardware, but I'm baised.
[10:05] <Vince-0> intel has better ondie cache
[10:05] <linux_galore> Keemy: I would be intrested in ram speed and hdd cache size and speed
[10:05] <tha_gm|onaquest> PurpleFly can I trouble you again.
[10:05] <Vince-0> which is good
[10:05] <tha_gm|onaquest> ?*
[10:05] <Keemy> 7200 rpm?
[10:06] <linux_galore> Keemy: Im finding these super fast cpu's are held up by the hardisk speed and ram speed
[10:06] <Amaranth> it's really hard to get faster than 10k rpm without issues
[10:06] <Keemy> i see
[10:06] <linux_galore> Keemy: SATA 10,000 rpm
[10:06] <Amaranth> you spin a pound of metal that fast and make sure it works
[10:06] <fishmonger> I've got a 15K drive, but it's _really_ whiny
[10:06] <PurpleFly> ya
[10:06] <linux_galore> Keemy: 8mb cache on the hardisk
[10:06] <Keemy> oh, i'm behing the times
[10:06] <crimsun> poof: err?
[10:07] <crimsun> poof: what for?
[10:07] <fishmonger> what i'd do, Keemy, is drop the money on a 78GB WD Raptor as a boot drive
[10:07] <poof> new gimp
[10:07] <fishmonger> and get the biggest HD you can for a dump, if you need more space than that.
[10:07] <linux_galore> Keemy: yeah these days I look at the cpu last because its not the bottle neck anymore
[10:07] <Amaranth> western digital is shit, don't buy from them
[10:08] <PurpleFly> tha_gm|onaquest: what up?
[10:08] <linux_galore> I like seagate
[10:08] <crimsun> poof: have you checked ubuntu-bp ?
[10:08] <Amaranth> seagate are the best, yeah
[10:08] <Keemy> i've got an old NEC 350 PII that's been in constant use since 1999
[10:08] <Amaranth> WD and Maxtor are the worst
[10:08] <poof> what is that?
[10:08] <fishmonger> Amaranth, I've had way more problems w/ Seagates than WDs
[10:08] <tha_gm|onaquest> PurpleFly: just trying to help out carlot with ntfs, so far what you gave me got everything working except... automount? it seems good!! thanks! i'm asking him to see what's going on.
[10:08] <Vince-0> Keemy: make sure u get an Nvdia and AMD 64 is not worth it atm
[10:08] <Amaranth> Old WD drives (20MB) were great and some still work for me but past 1GB I've always had problems.
[10:08] <Keemy> I had one Seagate and it always had errors
[10:09] <fishmonger> I've never had a problem w/ a Raptor
[10:09] <Vince-0> Keemy: Fujistu is pretty good HDD
[10:09] <Keemy> i've got a decent ATI video card
[10:09] <fishmonger> I've always done pretty well w/ Fujitsu too.
[10:09] <poof> I want to install gimp 2.2 synaptic only shows gimp 2.0 :/
[10:09] <fishmonger> The Hitachi inherited Deathstars still scare me
[10:09] <Keemy> fujitsu make 10k drives?
[10:09] <Vince-0> Keemy: ATI linux support is shocking
[10:10] <Vince-0> dunno
[10:10] <fishmonger> I don't think so, Keemy
[10:10] <tha_gm|onaquest> Hitachi Deathstars have usually a 90% failure rating
[10:10] <Amaranth> fishmonger: You should have seen how many problems Gateway used to have (I don't know anymore) with WD drives.
[10:10] <crimsun> Vince-0: by the middle of this month, it will be better
[10:10] <crimsun> poof: must you have 2.2?
[10:10] <Vince-0> crimsun: how so ? - I am having such issues getting drivers installed
[10:10] <crimsun> Vince-0: new drivers out then.
[10:10] <poof> yes I must :)
[10:10] <linux_galore> Yeah Ive got an old NEC Vera 1997 I using it for burning eeproms....its still working fine
[10:10] <PurpleFly> WD drives are terible, we have lost 4-5 just this past two months
[10:10] <Vince-0> no way
[10:10] <Vince-0> sweet
[10:11] <linux_galore> Versa*
[10:11] <Keemy> hw is hardware raid in linux?
[10:11] <fishmonger> What model, PurpleFly?
[10:11] <poof> I have gimp 2.2 for windows, the new filters are very nice :)
[10:11] <Vince-0> qDot , spektr : Greetz to locals from SA !
[10:11] <PurpleFly> well it was a bunch of 72GB SCSI 10RPM
[10:11] <PurpleFly> i can look model number
[10:12] <linux_galore> Im surprised NEC hasnt made more of its reliability  numbers...look on ebay there are always some old NEC laptops up for sale
[10:12] <tha_gm|onaquest> Every hard drive I bought, Maxtor/WD, has worked perfectly, any hard drive that came with a machine, (even if same brand) usually breaks.
[10:12] <fishmonger> I've never used a WD SCSI drive, I didn't know they even made them.
[10:12] <Konlied> fishmonger: what is the most consistent brand you've used?
[10:13] <PurpleFly> these were all from dell on the their 2650 poweredge servers
[10:13] <fishmonger> I've always had good luck w/ WD, we go thru hundreds in the labs and I can't remember one failing.
[10:13] <linux_galore> <-- has a small pile of burned out Maxtors from his IBM mail server
[10:13] <fishmonger> Fujitsus  have always been good too.
[10:13] <yojimbo> Is there a mailing list that deals with Ubuntu as a server OS, rather than a desktop?
[10:14] <Keemy> QDI P2PE/800 ProIntel 82845PE MCH chipset 400/533MHz FSB DDR SDRAM 1 AGP - 5 PCI slots Modem Audio LAN ATX Pentium 4 1.7GHz to Sock 478 Celeron
[10:14] <linux_galore> naaw fuji had a really bad run a few years ago had to recall a whole load of hardisks
[10:14] <fishmonger> Seagates seem to croak the most on me.  But that also just may be because of what i was doing at the time - testing SATA drives way before they went retail.
[10:14] <Amaranth> linux_galore: I got 3 free drives sent to me from Maxtor in as many months. Finally they swapped our 40GB for a 60GB and we didn't have problems until just after it went out of warranty.
[10:14] <Keemy> that's the motherboard i bought
[10:14] <linux_galore> Amaranth: I gave up on maxtor went to with seagate...they still burn out but they last longer on the servers
[10:15] <Vince-0> Has any1 had experience with ATI drivers - I need some help installing >?
[10:15] <poof> is there a nice video editor for ubuntu?
[10:15] <Amaranth> linux_galore: I had a Seagate drive freeze (left it outside) and it still worked for a year after that. :)
[10:15] <linux_galore> I got a whole batch of new Gigabyte intel i848 based motherboard....works 100% in Linux.....fast as hell too with the 2.6 kernel
[10:16] <Keemy> i had an old gateway in the garage over 2 winters in minnesota and it worked perfectly
[10:16] <linux_galore> nice too see gigabyte making motherboard that work well with Linux
[10:16] <fishmonger> 848 is just 865 with one memory channel turned off.  865 has _great_ support.
[10:16] <fishmonger> most intel chipsets have pretty good support though.
[10:16] <tha_gm|onaquest> poof editing what type of video? kino does DV
[10:17] <poof> AVI or Mpeg... I use Xvid codec in windows...
[10:17] <Vince-0> how do I restart my eht0 if it craps out ?
[10:17] <tha_gm|onaquest> poof, I dunno, I know there are some out there...
[10:17] <linux_galore> fishmonger: i845's were horrible found cheap $40 sis650 motherboard with a slower P4 were doing better
[10:18] <poof> Ok thanks anyways, i will look at the one you mentioned :)
[10:18] <Keemy> i had and AGP car that never worked in AGP in windows,... works like a charm in mandrake
[10:18] <Keemy> card
[10:18] <Vince-0> Any1 running ATI ?
[10:18] <linux_galore> not me I avoid ati like a rash
[10:19] <Keemy> 78 gigs? i'd never use a quarter of it
[10:19] <fishmonger> 845 w/ SDRAM or DDR?
[10:19] <fishmonger> SDRAM was slow as shit
[10:19] <Vince-0> linux_galore: I wish I knew previously
[10:19] <PurpleFly> Vince: yes... did you try the howto on ubuntoforums.org
[10:19] <crimsun> I use 2D, so it really doesn't matter what graphics card I have
[10:19] <linux_galore> fishmonger: DDR 266
[10:19] <HappyFool> Keemy: hah. 640k is enough for anyone! ;)
[10:19] <Amaranth> ATI does bi-monthly driver releases. Their next release is soon and they promised AMD64 drivers. :)
[10:19] <fishmonger> and they were bad?
[10:19] <linux_galore> fishmonger: the sis650 was running PC133
[10:19] <Vince-0> PurpleFly: lemme see ....
[10:19] <tha_gm|onaquest> poof, if you do find one for mpeg/avi-type files, please let me know,  I have a project comming up that would require such a program ^_^
[10:19] <fishmonger> I thought the 650 was the dual-channel DDR chipset ... or was the 650 the rambus one>?  i forget anymore
[10:20] <Keemy> i'll get a fast 40 gig HD
[10:20] <poof> blender has a video editor in it, it is verry basic tho...
[10:20] <fishmonger> been working on servers for so long .... ever since 845G ... what was that?  2001? ... brain dumped most of that stuff now.
[10:20] <tha_gm|onaquest> poof more basic than iMovie?
[10:20] <^_^> tha_gm|onaquest: you have used my nick them most here good on ya ^_^
[10:21] <linux_galore> Keemy: I have a neat trick of getting speed out of machines via the hardisk/s....I go buy the fastest scsi hardisk in a small size I can get and then just buy a generic seagate ATA drive
[10:21] <poof> well, it basicaly just lets you glue together a bunch of small clips to make a big clip...
[10:21] <fishmonger> oh nope, the 655 was dual channel, not the 650
[10:22] <linux_galore> I put  /  /usr  /etc on the scsi and /home is on the /generic
[10:22] <carlot> tha_gm|onaquest: almost there but not completely :)
[10:22] <linux_galore> fishmonger: the sis 650 was running sdram 133mhz  the intel mobo with the i845 was running DDR266
[10:23] <tha_gm|onaquest> carlot ok
[10:23] <fishmonger> yeah, i remember now ... the 650 had integrated gfx as well.
[10:23] <linux_galore> fishmonger: the default cpu's i had on the motherboards with the i845 was 2.4ghz P4 the sis 650 ones was P4 1.7Ghz and the sis stuff way way better
[10:24] <tha_gm|onaquest> thanks ^_^ !  I love that face, I use it probably TOO much... if there is such a thing ~_^
[10:24] <linux_galore> fishmonger: the 650 series did have agp or intergrated
[10:24] <^_^> tha_gm|onaquest: ^_^
[10:24] <tha_gm|onaquest> PurpleFly mind taking a stab at carlot's automount problem?
[10:25] <carlot> tha_gm|onaquest: good idea
[10:25] <linux_galore> fishmonger: sis 650 works fine just donr play games lol
[10:25] <PurpleFly> sure could try
[10:25] <carlot> tha_gm|onaquest: have been taking advantage of you...
[10:25] <linux_galore> well, not 3D games anyway
[10:25] <carlot> PurpleFly: hi there
[10:26] <carlot> PurpleFly: shall we move onto private?
[10:26] <tha_gm|onaquest> lol not taking advantage, i'm just out of ideas ^_^
[10:26] <PurpleFly> carlot: sure...
[10:27] <^_^> tha_gm|onaquest: me waves the #ubuntu-offtopic flag
[10:29] <tha_gm|onaquest> LOL
[10:29] <tha_gm|onaquest> no
[10:30] <linux_galore> hmm goto go Carnivale is on TV in 3 min
[10:30] <tha_gm|onaquest> later linux_galore
[10:31] <linux_galore> far plains clear skies to you all
[10:36] <cam_> mmm nice all wireless thanks to ndiswrapper
[10:37] <cam_> does anyone know if gambas is in any of the repositories?
[10:40] <crimsun> it's in hoary/universe and sid/main
[10:40] <crimsun> can't speak for warty
[10:41] <Cam> :/
[10:41] <crimsun> hang
[10:42] <crimsun> nope, not in warty
[10:43] <HappyFool> i haven't used it, but maybe you can get the src and install it in your home directory or in /opt
[10:44] <crimsun> it's conceivable
[10:44] <crimsun> Build-Depends doesn't look too daunting
[10:46] <carlot> Cam: have you got a minute for solving a ndiswrapper problem?
[10:49] <Cam> sure
[10:49] <Cam> i could try
[10:50] <randabis-wireles> yay
[10:50] <randabis-wireles> finally have my resolution back
[10:53] <fINITYcOOL> HOLY MOLY!!!!
[10:53] <tha_gm|onaquest> erph?
[10:53] <fINITYcOOL> A lot of people here.... lol
[10:53] <tha_gm|onaquest> lol
[10:53] <tha_gm|onaquest> um, one time I came in here, there was nearly 1000
[10:53] <Vaportrail> why not?
[10:54] <fINITYcOOL> I am new to linux
[10:54] <fINITYcOOL> so I am trying out this Distro
[10:55] <tha_gm|onaquest> fINITYcOOL, how you liking it so far?
[10:55] <fINITYcOOL> I like the fact the they send you free cd
[10:55] <fINITYcOOL> cd's
[10:55] <fINITYcOOL> but I don't have it yet :(
[10:55] <fINITYcOOL> just ordered it
[10:55] <fINITYcOOL> (56k modem)
[10:56] <tha_gm|onaquest> totally, well downloading is free... oh... ^_^
[10:56] <tha_gm|onaquest> well they only ship them out every 6 months right?
[10:56] <gen> you could download it on 56k faster then you'll get it in the mail ;)
[10:56] <frankps> moin, moin
[10:56] <HappyFool> i got mine this week - it was posted beginning december
[10:56] <tha_gm|onaquest> gen LOL good point ^_^
[10:56] <HappyFool> dial-up bites big time. and broadband is way overpriced around here
[10:57] <tha_gm|onaquest> should only take 3-4 days on dialup
[10:57] <fINITYcOOL> na tha... you get a new one every release (which is every 6 months), but  new customers get them in 4-6 weeks
[10:58] <frankps> buy a linux magazine that comes with ubuntu bundled
[10:58] <tha_gm|onaquest> odd, that's not  what my friend told me, i'll tell him to sign up for some now and he'll get it in 4-6
[10:58] <frankps> probably the easiest thing
[10:58] <fINITYcOOL> is it a good starting distro?
[10:58] <HappyFool> or find someone with broadband ;)
[10:59] <frankps> fINITYcOOL: I like it a lot. It is a quite complete Gnome distro
[10:59] <tha_gm|onaquest> fINITYcOOL yes, as easy as mandrake once you're inside, but the installer is not as easy ^_^
[11:00] <frankps> installation is also quite easy, but not graphical
[11:00] <tha_gm|onaquest> yea it walks you through it, but some stuff could be "easier"
[11:01] <HappyFool> the one thing it could do is ask all the questions at once, and then go away and install
[11:02] <tha_gm|onaquest> HappyFool, like SuSe? sometimes thats good, sometimes that method drives me nuts...
[11:02] <HappyFool> well, it means you can go have coffee or something while your computer is busy ;)
[11:02] <tha_gm|onaquest> HappyFool or play on my DS ^_^
[11:03] <fishmonger> sigh, stupid broadcom driver
[11:03] <randabis-wireles> well, hoary upgrade is complete finally...just gotta figure out why my sound isn't working
[11:05] <frankps> randabis-wireles: when I now reinstalled my ubuntu installation and upgraded to hoary, sound worked for the first time (Dell Latitude D600)
[11:06] <frankps> But I have a problem with Muine. No sound from that particular application
[11:06] <da_bon_bon> hey, anyone here can play .3gp files with audio ?
[11:08] <randabis-wireles> i had sound at first, but no sound now
[11:08] <randabis-wireles> none period
[11:08] <randabis-wireles> checked the obvious things
[11:08] <randabis-wireles> everything checks out
[11:08] <randabis-wireles> so I dunno
[11:09] <randabis-wireles> my sound modules are loaded
[11:09] <randabis-wireles> so I don't know
[11:09] <tha_gm|onaquest> hrm... external harddrive via firewire not working ...
[11:09] <crimsun> frankps: is muine the only application with that problem?
[11:10] <randabis-wireles> is it being detected?
[11:10] <frankps> crimsun: yes
[11:10] <tha_gm|onaquest> randabis-wireles yes, it is, it gives some errors though
[11:10] <randabis-wireles> hmm
[11:11] <da_bon_bon> where do i get the sarm codec for xine ?
[11:12] <crimsun> frankps: hmm, are you using Hoary?
[11:12] <tha_gm|onaquest> radnabis-wireless let me paste you the errors in pm ok?
[11:12] <randabis-wireles> don't bother...I probably can't help you
[11:12] <tha_gm|onaquest> lol ok ^_^
[11:12] <randabis-wireles> no experience with that
[11:12] <tha_gm|onaquest> me either
[11:12] <tha_gm|onaquest> usually it just works
[11:12] <tha_gm|onaquest> it might be the hard drive, let me try htat
[11:12] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: i don't know about the specific codecs you've mentioned, but have you looked at ubuntuguide.org?
[11:12] <tha_gm|onaquest> that*
[11:12] <randabis-wireles> I just ask the obvious things :p
[11:13] <da_bon_bon> HappyFool: yes. i cant play 3gp files - video is fine, no audio.
[11:15] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: sorry, got no idea. Maybe try installing mplayer and all its attendant codecs? I think a version of mplayer is available via apt-get
[11:15] <da_bon_bon> HappyFool: i have xine with the w32 codecs installed
[11:15] <crimsun> frankps: ?
[11:15] <frankps> crimsun: yes
[11:16] <crimsun> frankps: when did you last update and upgrade?
[11:16] <randabis-wireles> wonder when the zsnes package in hoary will be updated to 1.40
[11:17] <frankps> I did a clean install yesterday with hoary upgrade, installation of mono, tomboy, muine and f-spot
[11:17] <HappyFool> da_bon_bon: as i said, i don't really know much more. all i can say is mplayer impressed me when i ran it on fc2, but i haven't installed it on ubuntu yet
[11:17] <crimsun> frankps: mono in hoary/universe, or ...?
[11:17] <lexhider> don't try it from multiverse, it's stuffed.
[11:17] <crimsun> frankps: if you compiled from upstream source, I can't help you.
[11:18] <frankps> crimsun: I am not sure, got it through apt-get
[11:18] <Cam> can anyone help me? when im trying to install gambas I get a error
[11:18] <Cam> checking for XOpenDisplay in -lX11... no
[11:18] <Cam> configure: error: *** libX11 not found. Check 'config.log' for more details.
[11:18] <frankps> crimsun: nothing compiled
[11:18] <Cam> but libX11 is installed.
[11:18] <frankps> crimsun: all through apt-get
[11:18] <Cam> and I can find it in /usr/X11R6/libs
[11:18] <Cam> it also says checking for X... no
[11:18] <crimsun> frankps: dpkg -l muine|grep ^ii|awk -F' ' '{print $3}'
[11:19] <crimsun> Cam: you need xlibs-dev
[11:20] <frankps> crimsun: 0.6.3-4
[11:20] <crimsun> frankps: wait til -5 hits main.
[11:20] <crimsun> (it's in sid, so it should move over quickly)
[11:21] <frankps> crimsun: ah, ok
[11:24] <crimsun> frankps: some other things to try include removing the muine keys using the gconf editor and mv ~/.gnome2/muine ~/.gnome2/muine_backup
[11:24] <Cam> soooo many deps :(
[11:24] <Cam> lol
[11:29] <broodster> How do i see what kernal version im using?
[11:29] <broodster> is there a command?
[11:29] <tha_gm|onaquest> uname -r
[11:29] <tha_gm|onaquest> uname -a if you want even more info ^_^
[11:29] <broodster> thanks
[11:29] <tha_gm|onaquest> np
[11:29] <tha_gm|onaquest> ok i'm going to install totem-xine, but it want's to remove ubuntu-desktop ? @_@
[11:31] <Cam> dont worry about that
[11:31] <Cam> its just a link to all over packages
[11:34] <Cam> metapackage is the name
[11:34] <thursday> i get the following error when running modprobe fglrx, Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/<IP_ADDRESS>-4-386/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko): No such device. i followed the how-to on the forums :( anyone think they can help me?
[11:34] <Vaportrail> thursday: try sudo modprobe fglrx
[11:34] <Vaportrail> with sudo :)
[11:34] <thursday> the only problem was that i don't have /proc/pci, but lspci shows it
[11:35] <thursday> Vaportrail, okay let me try it with sudo
[11:35] <thursday> Vaportrail, same error... I was root before, I ran sudo -s prior to modprobe.
[11:36] <Vaportrail> ah k, didn't know
[11:37] <thursday> i wonder what device file it's looking for... the kernel module is where it should be
[11:37] <HappyFool> i guess /proc/pci is /proc/bus/pci, but i would guess lspci looks at /proc/bus/pci/devices anyway (?)
[11:38] <AlvaroBF> hi
[11:38] <HappyFool> thursday: see man MAKEDEV: No such device normally means the kernel does not have the driver configured or loaded
[11:40] <thursday> ok let me try that
[11:41] <AlvaroBF> http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/weekly-dvd/20050108/
[11:41] <AlvaroBF> a hoary dvd
[11:41] <AlvaroBF> :D
[11:41] <^_^> lol
[11:42] <^_^> CDimages....
[11:42] <^_^> lol
[11:42] <AlvaroBF> yes
[11:43] <thursday> MAKEDEV -n # did nothing =\
[11:43] <arauko> Hello.
[11:43] <HappyFool> sorry, i was just trying to help you diagnose the error
[11:44] <thursday> oh i was just hoping you would have another sudgestion :) thanks for trying
[11:48] <arauko> Ubuntu is a Debian based distro right?
[11:48] <crimsun> arauko: yes.
[11:48] <arauko> Good.
[11:48] <arauko> crimsun, what are the main differences?
[11:48] <Blobbo> Question: Is there KDE for Ubuntu?
[11:48] <crimsun> Blobbo: in 'universe'.
[11:49] <Blobbo> Muh?
[11:49] <Blobbo> Is that after warty?
[11:49] <Vaportrail> yes it is, but not supported by cannoncial
[11:49] <Vaportrail> no, in warty
[11:49] <crimsun> arauko: 6-month release schedule. Supported for 18 months. Emphasis on GNOME.
[11:50] <Vaportrail> crimsun: you forgot the nice community :)
[11:50] <Blobbo> For what reasons is Ubuntu better than Debian?
[11:50] <crimsun> Vaportrail: yes, that's a rather glaring omission, sorry. ;)
[11:51] <Vaportrail> np :)
[11:51] <crimsun> Blobbo: well, one could consider those reasons above.
[11:52] <Blobbo> Hmm, yes. But what differences in the OS release itself are there?
[11:52] <crimsun> Blobbo: between stable releases of Debian vs. Ubuntu?
[11:52] <Vaportrail> ubuntu brok my 11,5 years microsoft era
[11:53] <Vaportrail> s/brok/broke
[11:53] <Blobbo> crimsun - Aye.
[11:53] <carlot> hi there, just a quick question: does ndiswrapper work with a standard warty kernel or do I have to upgrade, download something?
[11:54] <AlvaroBF> How I can install bootsplash?? on 2.6.10 kernel (hoary)
[11:54] <carlot> How can I check if ndiswrapper support is built into my kernel?
[11:54] <crimsun> Blobbo: Ubuntu releases are much more current than their Debian counterparts. Some of the packages are named differently; some of the pools are named differently ('universe' vs. 'contrib', etc.); Ubuntu applies additional patches against their Linux images; Ubuntu includes support for "restricted" components like graphics drivers; etc.
[11:55] <Blobbo> I see.
[11:55] <SirFred> Hi.
[11:55] <Vaportrail> my ubuntu fails to synchronize time with the timeserver and if I try it in Gnome it says, that the NTP-Support doesn't run, what to do?
[11:56] <HappyFool> try a different time server, maybe?
[11:56] <Vaportrail> the ntp-support on my machine doesn't run, so how to try another server?
[11:57] <HappyFool> i edited /etc/default/ntpdate and changed the timeserver entry
[11:57] <crimsun> what did you change it to?
[11:57] <HappyFool> then did sudo /etc/init.d/ntpdate restart
[11:57] <HappyFool> err, tick.nml.csir.co.za
[11:58] <HappyFool> i forget where there's a list of timeservers
[11:58] <crimsun> pool.ntp.org should be the default.
[11:58] <mz2> is there a way of getting the menu entries created when packages are installed? most of what i install from the non-ubuntu sources seem to not have them
[11:58] <HappyFool> it was ntp.ubuntulinux.org
[11:58] <HappyFool> which was not set by me, unless my memory is failing ;)
[11:58] <arauko> But i would like to know more a techincal advantage of Ubuntu.
[11:59] <crimsun> HappyFool: oh, yes, it is. Sorry. My base is Debian.
[11:59] <crimsun> arauko: much tighter integration of Python and GNOME as basis of the distro.
[11:59] <crimsun> arauko: additional patches applied to Debian packages.
[11:59] <Vaportrail> ok, thx HappyFool n crimsun :), seemed to be the server
[12:00] <HappyFool> Vaportrail: look here for timeserver addresses: http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Servers/WebHome
[12:00] <Vaportrail> thx
[12:00] <thursday> is it possible to fix this error? ./MAKEDEV: don't know what "drm" is
[12:00] <crimsun> arauko: emphasis on secure-by-default without the need for an active, default iptables ruleset.
[12:00] <crimsun> arauko: (e.g., portmap listens on <IP_ADDRESS>)
[12:03] <arauko> Ah ok.
[12:03] <crimsun> back later.
[12:11] <tha_gm|onaquest> later all good chatting
[12:18] <^_^> #ubuntu-offtopic is at a ll time low :(
[12:19] <scriptkittie> Hello
[12:19] <michealbolton> is there a way I can make apt ignore a package?
[12:20] <scriptkittie> I am having trouble getting connect to xs4all.nl dsl
[12:20] <grepper> michealbolton, you mean put a hold on it so its not upgraded ?
[12:20] <michealbolton> yes
[12:21] <grepper> echo <package> hold | dpkg --set-selections
[12:21] <michealbolton> thanks
[12:21] <grepper> np
[12:21] <michealbolton> how can I take it off of the hold list?
[12:21] <ericf> Why is it that a /dev/dvd symlink to /media/cdrom1 or /dev/hdd are removed at reboot?
[12:21] <grepper> echo <package> install | dpkg --set-selections
[12:22] <michealbolton> thank you
[12:22] <felixdz> Hi I am having trouble getting on the internet with xs4all.nl in the Netherlands
[12:22] <grepper> has archive.ubuntu.com been down intermittently all night ?
[12:23] <michealbolton> ericf: on my system the symlinks stay but the folder /media/cdrom0 gets removed everytime i reboot
[12:23] <ericf> felixdz: adsl? have you got a modem that does the connecting, and running a dhcp server?
[12:23] <ericf> michealbolton: I see, so i figured I would link it to /dev/hdd directly, but such a link doesn't stay either
[12:23] <felixdz> I'll post the helpdesk link to the ISP with my modem type
[12:23] <felixdz> http://www.xs4all.nl/helpdesk/abonnement/adsl/alcatel/ethernet/kpnadsl/linux/configureren.html
[12:24] <felixdz> Can anybody talk me through what I need to do to get ubuntu connected to the Internet
[12:24] <felixdz> ?
[12:24] <ericf> felixdz: connecting with ppp-stuff is not nice, but you're lucky you've got xs4all for that ;)
[12:26] <ericf> felixdz: apt-get install pptp-linux ppp
[12:26] <felixdz> ericf thanks
[12:26] <carlot> hi everybody, just succesfully installed ndiswrapper and chatting remotely WiFi... Yaiii!
[12:26] <ericf> felixdz: then follow the instructions on the site. If you got it working once, remember how you did it so you can automate it for next bootup
[12:27] <carlot> can anybody tell how to display the signal strength icon now?
[12:27] <ericf> but felixdz, wait
[12:27] <carlot> suppose I need enable something for that
[12:28] <ericf> felixdz: I think I know that modem. You can flash the firmware to upgrade it, then it's a stand-alone modem that connects by itself, and runs dhcp. Much easier, and you can connect it to a hub and let multiple computers connect to the Internet
[12:29] <ericf> felixdz: http://www.weethet.nl/dutch/adsl_mxstream_alcatelhack.php , of course other sites can be found with google
[12:30] <felixdz> Thanks again ericf. Ben jij Nederlander?
[12:30] <ericf> felixdz: Ja ;)
[12:30] <felixdz> I am Australian but I am converting my Dutch girlfreind to linux
[12:30] <SirFred> Flash plugin is crashing my firefox. Is anybody else experimenting this behaviour.
[12:30] <SirFred> I'm on Hoary.
[12:30] <ernstp> hello
[12:31] <SirFred> The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.
[12:31] <SirFred> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[12:31] <SirFred> The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'.
[12:31] <SirFred>   (Details: serial 117 error_code 8 request_code 147 minor_code 3)
[12:31] <ernstp> I'm having problems with pmount on hoary
[12:31] <SirFred> For any flash plugin firefox loads, I got that.
[12:31] <ernstp> there is no /usr/bin/pmount, only pmount-hal
[12:32] <ericf> SirFred: I had it too. Don't know what to do about it :)
[12:32] <SirFred> ernstp: Same here with pmount.
[12:32] <SirFred> ericf: Do you know if there's any bugzilla entry about it?
[12:32] <ernstp> SirFred, ok.. Checking som forums right now
[12:32] <ericf> felixdz: then better immediately get a dutch passport, you will need to do some support weekly ;)
[12:32] <ericf> SirFred: No clue, but I'd think so
[12:33] <ericf> brb
[12:33] <SirFred> Another problem: My data CDs are not mounted automatically.
[12:33] <SirFred> I've opened a bug with that (5339)
[12:34] <SirFred> It's seems a HAL problem.
[12:34] <ernstp> SirFred, that's the pmount thing
[12:34] <SirFred> ernstp: Humm, I started hal in debug and no daemon mode.
[12:34] <ernstp> Try running "killall gnome-volume-manager; gnome-volume-manager --gtk-debug=all"
[12:34] <SirFred> And I found this message:
[12:35] <SirFred> 15:49:08.544 [W]  hald_dbus.c:97: No property volume.policy.desired_mount_point on device with id /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_Criminal y Decen
[12:35] <SirFred> Perhaps this has no relation, and it's only a warning.
[12:36] <SirFred> ericf: I'm going to try that
[12:36] <SnowMann> hallo zusammen
[12:36] <SirFred> ericf: You're right.
[12:36] <ericf> SirFred: about what?
[12:37] <SirFred> -rwsr-xr--  1 root plugdev 22776 2005-01-06 14:06 /usr/bin/pmount
[12:37] <SirFred> ericf: It's there but you cannot execute it.
[12:37] <SirFred> ericf: Perhaps it's as easy as change the permissions.
[12:38] <SirFred> manager.c/789: New Device: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_Criminal y Decen
[12:38] <SirFred> manager.c/825: Changed: /dev/hdc
[12:38] <SirFred> /usr/bin/pmount-hal: line 79: /usr/bin/pmount: Permiso denegado
[12:38] <SirFred> /usr/bin/pmount-hal: line 79: exec: /usr/bin/pmount: cannot execute: Conseguido
[12:38] <daniels> SirFred: you need to be in the plugdev group
[12:38] <SirFred> It complains about 'permission denied' while trying to mount the CD.
[12:38] <SirFred> daniels: Perhaps the problem is that I upgraded from Hoary.
[12:38] <ernstp> On my computer /usr/bin/pmount was actually missing, pmount-hal was there
[12:39] <SirFred> daniels: And so, I'm not on the right groups.
[12:39] <SirFred> ernstp: You sure?
[12:39] <SirFred> ernstp: Do you have the pmount package installed?
[12:39] <SnowMann> cu @all
[12:39] <ernstp> SirFred, yeah. Purged it and reinstalled it, now it's there
[12:39] <ernstp> SirFred, cource, it's a dep from gnome-volume-manager
[12:40] <SirFred> ernstp: Now, we need to be in the plugdev group.
[12:40] <ernstp> SirFred, Yes, I'm going to relogin now, since I'm added to the group
[12:40] <SirFred> So do I.
[12:40] <ernstp> There's a checkbox for it in user manager I think
[12:42] <carlot> hi everybody. couls somebody pls tell me how to automate loading a module?
[12:43] <carlot> in other words how to avoid having to manually sudo modprobe mymodule?
[12:43] <Vaportrail> carlot put it into /etc/modules
[12:43] <carlot> Vaportrail: what?
[12:43] <SirFred> Great! It works now
[12:43] <Vaportrail> carlot: the name of your modul
[12:43] <carlot> Vaportrail: the module?
[12:43] <ericf> carlot: it's name
[12:43] <SirFred> Well, I have to update the bug report.
[12:44] <SirFred> Now, my only problem is the firefox one.
[12:44] <carlot> modules is a text file?
[12:44] <Vaportrail> carlot: sudo gedit /etc/modules
[12:44] <carlot> Vaportrail: thanks will do right now
[12:44] <SirFred> Well, another problem I have is that when I logout, some processes of my user are still around.
[12:45] <SirFred> A gnome-panel, some bonobo stuff and the gam_server
[12:45] <SirFred> I have to kill them from a terminal for the following login to be correct.
[12:49] <zAo^> morning :)
[12:51] <Vaportrail> noon
[12:53] <zAo^> how is the nforce4 support in IA64?
[12:54] <SirFred> It seems that gdk_x_error() doesn't exist anymore.
[12:54] <SirFred> I'm trying to break firefox with gdb on that funcion but there isn't.
[01:02] <HappyFool> well, i'm not gdb expert, but my libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.400.10 is stripped. Hm. Come to think of it, how would the func be found by the linker then?
[01:03] <SirFred> HappyFool: Well, that's not a problem.
[01:03] <SirFred> HappyFool: The debugger nows the name of the functions, but not its parametrization.
[01:03] <SirFred> HappyFool: Have in mind that the names need to be known to do the linkage stuff.
[01:04] <SirFred> HappyFool: To ilustrate it, just try an objdump -T <some_stripped_so_lib>
[01:05] <SirFred> HappyFool: You should see the symbol names.
[01:05] <HappyFool> SirFred: ah-ha.
[01:06] <SirFred> HappyFool: What you don't have is another debug info.
[01:06] <SirFred> HappyFool: Like the function parameters, source code link,...
[01:07] <HappyFool> SirFred: cool, thanks. I've used nm to track down link errors in the past, but objdump looks more useful
[01:07] <HappyFool> or at least, differently useful ;)
[01:08] <SirFred> HappyFool: objdump has a lot of other options. You can disassemble, for example.
[01:09] <SirFred> What is the supposed way to setup ppp dialups in Ubuntu?
[01:09] <SirFred> Better said: supported way
[01:09] <HappyFool> the DialupHowto uses pppconfig
[01:10] <SirFred> HappyFool: That's a text utility. I expected some expectacular gnome app, with lights and music.
[01:10] <HappyFool> which is how i got it to work, but i was using the wrong username with the gnome ppp setup, so its not a valid comparison
[01:11] <HappyFool> computer->system configuration->networking->Add (or use the wizard that seems to come up if you have no interaces)
[01:12] <SirFred> OK
[01:14] <SirFred> Humm, I created some time ago a new device on /dev using mknod.
[01:14] <SirFred> But it's gone. Is there any way to make them persistent?
[01:15] <HappyFool> i dunno. my /dev/modem also disappeared after i booted
[01:15] <SirFred> Oh, I see it's back after reloading the module.
[01:15] <SirFred> Interesting.
[01:21] <da_bon_bon> when i open GMail, i get alerts in firefox saying "0" doesnt happen on any other site
[01:22] <Vaportrail> just saying "O"?
[01:22] <Vaportrail> da_bon_bon which firefox version?
[01:22] <da_bon_bon> Vaportrail: yes. 0. ff - 1.0.2
[01:23] <Vaportrail> hmm
[01:24] <da_bon_bon> Vaportrail: strange, isnt it.. i get a "alert" box kindof what u get in javascript
[01:25] <Vaportrail> gmail uses javascript
[01:26] <da_bon_bon> Vaportrail: thats why... any idea ?
[01:26] <Vaportrail> da_bon_bon: I'm sorry, no ideas yet
[01:34] <SirFred> Do you know any way to burn clonecd images on linux?
[01:35] <ericf> How do I move my girlfriend's windows-azureus-halfdownloads to Ubuntu? Simply filling in the path of the half-downloads obviously is not enough.
[01:36] <svenl> Hi.
[01:37] <svenl> I need to run galeon on ubuntu, but it doesn't seem to be available.
[01:37] <ericf> svenl: probably in universe. Add it in synaptic, or if you don't know how to, see ubuntuguide.org
[01:37] <felixdz> hello
[01:37] <daniels> svenl: oh, while you're here -- booted my pegasos for the first time yesterday
[01:37] <daniels> svenl: it seems to be totally broken with more than one video card?
[01:38] <svenl> daniels: cool.
[01:38] <daniels> svenl: with an agp r128 and a pci g400, neither one worked (the r128 was blank, the mga had random stuff all over the screen)
[01:38] <cafeina> hello
[01:38] <svenl> daniels: well, i think the problem is that only one of them is initialized by the Of.
[01:38] <daniels> but when i took the g400 out, the r128 worked fine
[01:38] <daniels> svenl: neither of them were initialised right
[01:38] <svenl> daniels: are those x86 cards, or mac ones ?
[01:39] <daniels> svenl: both x86, but the r128 at least works fine when it's by itself (didn't try the g400, ran out of time)
[01:39] <svenl> i think the problem is the g400, i heard report about this, and since in dual card mode, the initialized one is the pci one, you have problem.
[01:39] <svenl> can you try the g400 alone next time ?
[01:40] <svenl> mmm, i don't really need to run galeon, but i have a password stored in the galeon password database, which i dont remember, and i need it to modify the password of the site :/
[01:40] <felixdz> When filling in the /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file is the format like this:   username@xs4all-basic-adsl * password  or....
[01:41] <daniels> svenl: sure, not today though
[01:41] <felixdz> username@xs4all-basic-adsl    password?
[01:41] <svenl> ok, keep me informed.
[01:42] <svenl> ericf: nope, i have the universe lines uncomented.
[01:43] <carlot> hi guys, just need a final push for completing a new warty install
[01:43] <svenl> Oh, this sucks, there is epiphany, but not galeon :/
[01:43] <daniels> svenl: galeon is in universe
[01:43] <svenl> wonder if it will take the galeon user-data stuff.
[01:43] <carlot> what to do to get totem/xine to work an all avi videos?
[01:43] <svenl> daniels: apt-get seems to not think so.
[01:43] <svenl> (on amd64 warthy).
[01:44] <carlot> I have downloaded win32-codecs from Marillat
[01:44] <carlot> still to no effect
[01:44] <daniels> svenl: have you enabled universe?
[01:44] <carlot> I get Audio but no video on Totem
[01:44] <carlot> does anybody know how to fix that?
[01:44] <svenl> daniels: i uncomented the universe lines and did an apt-get update yes.
[01:44] <daniels> svenl: weird
[01:45] <svenl> Mmm, it is not ephiphany, but epiphany the game :/
[01:45] <daniels> svenl: epiphany-browser
[01:45] <{GoldenEye}> hello to all!
[01:46] <svenl> Mmm, what is multiverse for ?
[01:46] <{GoldenEye}> Here in portugal time is: 12:46pm
[01:46] <Vaportrail> and?
[01:46] <daniels> svenl: multiverse is to universe as restricted is to main
[01:46] <daniels> svenl: i.e. non-free + not actively maintained
[01:46] <svenl> bah, why did you guys modify everything :/
[01:47] <SirFred> carlot: Are you using totem-gstreamer or totem-xine.
[01:47] <svenl> ah, found galeon in universe indeed.
[01:47] <daniels> svenl: which modifications don't you like?
[01:47] <SirFred> carlot: I'm not able to put totem-gstreamer to work properly, at least the one-week-ago version.
[01:47] <carlot> SirFred: not sure
[01:47] <SirFred> carlot: dpkg -l totem*
[01:48] <carlot> SirFred: so what do you recommend?
[01:48] <carlot> SirFred: just Totem?
[01:48] <svenl> daniels: strange archive names :)
[01:48] <SirFred> carlot: No, for me the one that works is totem-xine.
[01:48] <svenl> daniels: found galeon, could it be that it is part of hoary and not wharty (or however those are spelled) ?
[01:48] <SirFred> carlot: Try installing totem-xine
[01:49] <daniels> svenl: (hoary, warty); it's possible that it was ftbfs for warty and didn't get fixed in time given that not only is universe not actively maintained, but we were all incredibly busy in the run up to warty
[01:49] <carlot> SirFred: OK I will right now, we are talking Warty of course?
[01:49] <SirFred> carlot: Well, I'm using Hoary now, but I had this problem in my Warty days.
[01:49] <svenl> daniels: do you think the hoary galeon will install on warty ?
[01:49] <svenl> daniels: did you modify your glibc for hoary ?
[01:50] <carlot> SirFred: let me check and try will come back to you
[01:50] <svenl> daniels: did you get easily ubuntu running on the pegasos ?
[01:51] <daniels> svenl: maybe, not really, haven't tried yet
[01:51] <SirFred> carlot: OK. Good luck.
[01:51] <daniels> svenl: still rsyncing the archive, and i've got too much other stuff to do today anyway
[01:51] <carlot> SirFred: it was gstreamer installed, I am getting totem-xine now
[01:54] <svenl> damn, faleon won't install :/
[01:54] <svenl> galeon even.
[01:56] <daniels> hm, I wish zsh's spelling correction dealt with missplaced spaces
[01:56] <daniels> e.g. unam e-a -> uname -a
[01:57] <carlot> SirFred: it worked, thanks
[01:57] <SirFred> carlot: np
[01:57] <carlot> SirFred: what's the issue with gstreamer?
[01:57] <SirFred> carlot: I'm not sure.
[01:58] <carlot> SirFred: OK we will see
[01:58] <SirFred> carlot: Perhaps the codecs you need are not supported, perhaps it's not stable enough.
[01:58] <SirFred> carlot: But xine seems to do the work better by now.
[01:58] <entius> hi, if i want to configure my mouse, is there any graphical ide to do this in ubuntu?
[01:58] <carlot> SirFred: will stick to that one till Hoary arrives...
[01:58] <carlot> thanks
[01:59] <scoon> entius, gnome has a setup option called mouse, and you are not looking for an IDE unless you are writing code.
[02:00] <entius> sorry for the ide, better gui i guess :D
[02:00] <scoon> entius, no worries, just thought you should know to know.
[02:01] <entius> i've run the mouse option, but this doesn't allow me to say which model of mouse i have (with scroll wheel)
[02:03] <xukun> what do I need to change in menu.lst to get those nice small fonts during boot? This is what I have now in there vga=0x317
[02:03] <scoon> entius, search the forums www.ubuntuforums.org
[02:03] <entius> ok
[02:05] <svenl> daniels: how stable is hoary compared to debian/sid ?
[02:07] <daniels> svenl: works fine for me
[02:07] <svenl> daniels: yeah, that doesn't really respond to the question though.
[02:07] <daniels> svenl: it's synced from sid, and our modifications odn't really break anything
[02:07] <daniels> so no less stable
[02:08] <svenl> daniels: thanks.
[02:09] <svenl> wonder why apt-get install galeon tells me some bullshit about libgnomevfs, but apt-get install libgnomevfs works though.
[02:09] <svenl> and then apt-get install galeon works.
[02:09] <svenl> I think there is something quite fishy (buggy even) in apt-get dependency handling.
[02:12] <xukun> daniels, I have vga=0x317 in /boot/grub/menu.lst but I still have big fonts when booting. Any idea?
[02:15] <daniels> xukun: try vga=317 instad of vga=0x317
[02:16] <xukun> daniels, thanks
[02:18] <ArCHoNKoG> is there a way you can upgrade from sarge to hoary ?
[02:18] <ArCHoNKoG> and not break your system
[02:18] <Nonphasis> ArCHoNKoG: why not go via warty?
[02:19] <ArCHoNKoG> no debian sarge
[02:19] <Nonphasis> ArCHoNKoG: well, you can update Sarge -> Warty anh Warty -> Hoary, so...
[02:19] <ArCHoNKoG> i just want gnome 2.9.3
[02:20] <gsuveg> re
[02:20] <ArCHoNKoG> nothing else
[02:20] <scrooch> how about compiling it yourself within debian
[02:20] <gsuveg> whats de default rc level ?
[02:20] <scrooch> jhbuild
[02:20] <Krapmeister> can anyone offer some setup assistance for a newbie with zero linux experience?
[02:20] <Nonphasis> ArCHoNKoG: yes, compiling it might break less stuff
[02:20] <scrooch> garnome
[02:20] <gsuveg> rc5 right ?
[02:20] <ArCHoNKoG> so compili it my self
[02:21] <Nonphasis> I rememberthe days of yore when I tried to compile Gnome... it was very painful
[02:22] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: just ask, nobody is going to answer *that* question
[02:23] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: meta-questions don't really work in irc :-)
[02:23] <Krapmeister> ok.. i've just installed unbuntu and am trying to get it to recognise my USB ADSL modem and set up an internet connection..
[02:24] <Krapmeister> i can't see any guides on how to do this in the online documentation..
[02:24] <Nonphasis> ah, USB ADSL... that might be problematic
[02:24] <mjr> usb adsl might be a hairy deal, though I hear some of them work
[02:25] <mjr> what you'd really want is an adsl modem with an ethernet interface
[02:25] <Nonphasis> There should be a warning on USB ADSL boxes that say "This device may suck"
[02:27] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: you googled with the model name of your adsl box?
[02:27] <Krapmeister> i googled and cam up with one really complex solution...
[02:28] <comforteagle> How do I permanently set my hostname in Ubuntu? Using Computer->Sys Config->-Networking...hostname isn't working if I "hostname -f"
[02:28] <scriptkitty2> hello
[02:29] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: well, that's what you have to deal with when usinc complicated tech like usb adsl modems...
[02:29] <Krapmeister> it required i install something called eci-adsl, so i downloaded that but can't istall it to my linux system as it requires me to put files in directories which i don't have read/write/view permissions for
[02:29] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: of course you have permissions
[02:29] <scriptkitty2> Can anybody tell me how to install a netherlands version of gnome and a netherlands version of openoffice.org
[02:29] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: you have to got the superuser porms
[02:30] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: sudo cp * /target/folder
[02:30] <Krapmeister> well i keep getting error messages telling me i don't
[02:30] <Freduardo> scriptkitty2, open synaptic and search for open office
[02:31] <Freduardo> then you'll get a list of files and in that list there should be some dutch language files
[02:31] <Freduardo> i think
[02:31] <scriptkitty2> Thanks Freduardo
[02:31] <Freduardo> np
[02:31] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: can you use the terminal?
[02:32] <no0tic> hi all!
[02:32] <Krapmeister> i'm not familiar with the terminal commands
[02:32] <no0tic> how can I tell hotkeys to start at boot?
[02:33] <jonmasters> I put it in my GNOME session by hand. There is probably a better way.
[02:33] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: sudo cp /source/file /target/dir
[02:34] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: allows you to copy a file to a dir yoe don't normally have permissions to access
[02:34] <Krapmeister> so i have to copy each file individually?
[02:34] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: sudo nautilus might work as well
[02:34] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: you can use * or list all the files also
[02:34] <no0tic> jonmasters: how did you do that?
[02:35] <Krapmeister> is there anyway i can just change these directory permissions?
[02:35] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: yes
[02:36] <Vince-0> How do I run synaptic in KDE ?
[02:36] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: sudo chmod og+rwx /target/dir
[02:36] <xav> hi
[02:37] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: the same works for files you might want to make editable
[02:38] <xav> is it possible to compile a new module not provided by ubuntu ?
[02:38] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: you can revert the porms by doing og-rwx instead of og+rwx
[02:38] <xav> its a cpufreq driver
[02:38] <cafeina> hello
[02:38] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: perms rather
[02:38] <cafeina> I have problem installing Ubuntu 4.10 on an AMD Athlon64
[02:38] <xav> and I'm using kernel-image-686, so I don't have the source
[02:38] <xav> I can't add any modules then?
[02:38] <cafeina> Everything goes well,but...
[02:39] <Nonphasis> xav: get the kernel source
[02:39] <cafeina> Ubuntu does not add windows installation to grub
[02:39] <cafeina> and...
[02:39] <xav> Nonphasis, I know I can do it this way, but some ppl are against compiling a custom kernel
[02:39] <cafeina> ...on the first reboot I get GRUB error 16: Inconsistent filesystem structure
[02:40] <xav> they tell there is no need to change the default precompiled kernel
[02:40] <Nonphasis> xav: the module didn't come with install guide & own makefile?
[02:40] <xav> so I thought there was maybe a way to add modules
[02:41] <Krapmeister> "changing permsissions not permitted"
[02:41] <Krapmeister> this is not good
[02:41] <xav> I don't know. but it isn't loaded by hotplug, and it isn't in /lib/modules either
[02:41] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: you did "sudo"?
[02:41] <Vince-0> cafeina : edit ur /boot/grub/menu - add in XP to boot there ...
[02:41] <cafeina> Vince-0, but I cannot boot in ubuntu
[02:41] <cafeina> I get error 16
[02:41] <Vince-0> oh
[02:41] <Vince-0> damn
[02:41] <Vince-0> I dunno what 16 is
[02:42] <Aron_Figaro> hey all
[02:42] <Nonphasis> cafeina: google for grub error 16
[02:42] <Vince-0> I get 17 with my other distro - frikkin rash
[02:42] <cafeina> Vince-0 Inconsistent filesystem structure
[02:42] <Aron_Figaro> anyone use OpenOffice a lot?
[02:42] <Vince-0> cafeina: did you make your partitions correctly ?
[02:42] <Aron_Figaro> How do I modify my default page settings?
[02:42] <Vince-0> cafeina: check the ubuntu how to'z
[02:43] <cafeina> Vince-0 partitions are ok, other distros worked
[02:43] <broodster> what's the command to see the version of my linux kernal?
[02:43] <broodster> sorry i forgot =D
[02:44] <Ribs> bronson, uname -a
[02:44] <Ribs> that gives you what you want, plus a bit more
[02:44] <Krapmeister> yeah i did sudo ..
[02:44] <Krapmeister> would let me change some for some directories but not all
[02:44] <no0tic> broodster: uname -r
[02:45] <broodster> oh thanks =D
[02:45] <Aron_Figaro> So does anybody have some help for me? The OpenOffice.org 1.1.2 help files are...empty O.o
[02:45] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: what directories didn't work?
[02:47] <Aron_Figaro> ok, figured out that the "Default Document Template" is what I need rather than "Text Document" but how to force that as the default "new"?
[02:47] <Krapmeister> etc
[02:47] <[Devil-Boy] > hello there
[02:47] <Krapmeister> i think i'm doing this all wrong anyway...
[02:47] <[Devil-Boy] > does anyone knows if xmms can play mp3?
[02:47] <Aron_Figaro> Sure it can
[02:47] <Prox2far> Devil-boy, yes
[02:47] <no0tic> [Devil-Boy] : it can
[02:48] <[Devil-Boy] > i can't do it
[02:48] <Aron_Figaro> just get the...*looks for package name*...crap, forgot it :P
[02:48] <Aron_Figaro> gstreamer-mad
[02:48] <Aron_Figaro> that's it
[02:48] <dcoop> or
[02:48] <[Devil-Boy] > i open mp3 on music player but no joy on xmms
[02:48] <Krapmeister> maybe i'll be able to figure it out when i stop hitting my head against this brick wall..
[02:48] <Aron_Figaro> Devil-Boy: apt-get install gstreamer-mad
[02:48] <[Devil-Boy] > ok
[02:48] <[Devil-Boy] > synaptec package installer?
[02:48] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: yes, changing the perms is wrong
[02:48] <Aron_Figaro> somebody else help him XD
[02:48] <Aron_Figaro> I use apt
[02:49] <Nonphasis> just open a superuser shell
[02:49] <[Devil-Boy] > cheers
[02:49] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: there should be a launcher in Applications / System tools
[02:49] <Prox2far> devil-boy, have u added the two universe servers and searched gstreamer-mad
[02:49] <Aron_Figaro> so...anyone with OpenOffice help? Please? Arrrg...
[02:50] <Aron_Figaro> -_-;;
[02:50] <cafeina> Aron_Figaro what's your problem ?
[02:51] <dcoop> (08:47:03) Aron_Figaro: ok, figured out that the "Default Document Template" is what I need rather than "Text Document" but how to force that as the default "new"?
[02:51] <Krapmeister> ok.. what i'm trying to install is a *.deb package
[02:51] <Aron_Figaro> heh, thanks coop
[02:52] <dcoop> sure
[02:52] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: as a root, do dpkg -i myapp.deb
[02:52] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: as a root == from superuser shell, or normal shell via sudo
[02:53] <[Devil-Boy] > i have installed gstramer-mad
[02:53] <[Devil-Boy] > but no luck
[02:53] <[Devil-Boy] > whenever i'm about to play a file
[02:53] <[Devil-Boy] > it doesn't start
[02:53] <[Devil-Boy] > and it gets stuck
[02:54] <Krapmeister> ok.. how do i get root priveleges via sudo?
[02:54] <wezzer> sudo su root
[02:54] <wezzer> password, which it asks, is your own password
[02:54] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: just add "sudo" before the command
[02:54] <leonel> sudo -s
[02:55] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: ubuntuguide.org might help
[02:57] <Krapmeister> "no such file or directory"
[02:57] <Krapmeister> let me try a different tack...
[02:58] <Krapmeister> how can i get ubuntu toi recognise my network card so i can serve my net conection accross a LAN ?
[02:59] <no0tic> Krapmeister: it didn't during installation?
[03:00] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: were you in the directory where you downloaded the .deb?
[03:01] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: most network cards should be automatically recognized
[03:02] <[Devil-Boy] > and how can i access a computer on my network
[03:02] <[Devil-Boy] > ?
[03:02] <[Devil-Boy] > i click on the computer icon
[03:02] <[Devil-Boy] > and then it tells me that i haven't got access
[03:02] <[Devil-Boy] > and it doesn't even asks me to type in a user nor a password
[03:05] <Krapmeister> ok.. it recognises my card but i can't activate it and get any ip addresses
[03:05] <kebac> Krapmeister: use ifconfig eth0 x.x.x.x
[03:06] <kebac> Krapmeister: where x.x.x.x is an ip-address of you rchouce
[03:06] <Aron_Figaro> Hey, has anyone here installed Vega Strike before?
[03:06] <kebac> your choice
[03:06] <Aron_Figaro> I have NO clue where it unpacked itself :P
[03:06] <scrooch> what networkcard do you have Krapmeister
[03:06] <Krapmeister> i've no idea
[03:06] <kebac> are all network cards in linux named 'ethN' ?
[03:06] <scrooch> Aron_Figaro, read the website on how to start the damn gaame
[03:06] <Ribs> kebac, no
[03:06] <scrooch> lsmod
[03:07] <Ribs> kebac, all ethernet connections are called ethN
[03:07] <Ribs> the name depends on the network
[03:07] <Nonphasis> Krapmeister: sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[03:07] <scrooch> Krapmeister, do you have a k8n motherbord with integrated network card?
[03:07] <kebac> Ribs: right...
[03:07] <Krapmeister> no.. seperate network card
[03:08] <scrooch> which one, which module?
[03:08] <scrooch> do you have more network cards
[03:08] <Nonphasis> wasn't there some dpkg-reconfigure network or whatever?
[03:08] <scrooch> what does ifup eth0
[03:08] <scrooch> can you ping
[03:08] <scrooch> do you have dhcp
[03:09] <Krapmeister> dhcp ??
[03:09] <scrooch> automaticly adressing ip adresses
[03:10] <Krapmeister> no.. when i installed ubuntu it  couldn't recognise/use dhcp
[03:11] <scrooch> then what network card doy ou have
[03:11] <scrooch> hallo jessica__ :)
[03:11] <kebac> Krapmeister: use ifconfig -a
[03:12] <scrooch> jessica__, zeg nou eens wat :p
[03:13] <jessica__> scrooch: sorry, was weg
[03:14] <[Devil-Boy] > and how can i access a computer on my network
[03:14] <[Devil-Boy] > i click on the computer icon
[03:14] <[Devil-Boy] > and it doesn't even asks me to type in a user nor a password
[03:15] <Krapmeister> SURECOM EP 320X-R 100/10
[03:15] <HappyFool> [Devil-Boy] : have you read http://ubuntuguide.org/#networking ?
[03:16] <[Devil-Boy] > i'm not sure
[03:16] <[Devil-Boy] > but i will read it now
[03:16] <kagou> openoffice don't work here (hoary 64)
[03:18] <kagou> i had to manually change 1.1.2 by 1.1.3 in .sversionrc
[03:19] <HappyFool> hrm. from the apt-get man page: "remove is identical to install except that packages are removed instead of installed." (intentional irony? ;)
[03:22] <xav> I switched to hoary, all went fine but now my date are in a funny language
[03:22] <scrooch> lol HappyFool
[03:22] <xav> I don't even know what it's, something like spain or italian
[03:22] <Nonphasis> claer
[03:22] <xav> urtarrila
[03:22] <scrooch> xav, try dpkg-reconfigure locales
[03:23] <scrooch> maybe you can set the language in gdm
[03:23] <Nonphasis> btw, is hoary tracking Sid constantly?
[03:23] <scrooch> menu
[03:23] <Nonphasis> I have a Sid machine here and I wonder if I could hoary it up
[03:23] <xav> hey, it's only the date in the calendar, right ?
[03:24] <xav> the rest is mostly in french, with some english-french mix :)
[03:25] <scrooch> hmm weird xav lol
[03:25] <xav> can I try utf8 for the default locale?
[03:25] <xav> or fr_FR only is better?
[03:26] <daniels> fr_FR.UTF-8 is best for hoary
[03:26] <xav> ok thx
[03:26] <xav> what do I have to relaunch to apply the change ?
[03:26] <xav> X ?
[03:27] <acidspoon> Hi @ll
[03:27] <acidspoon> Spricht hier jemand deutsch?
[03:27] <xav> nein
[03:27] <acidspoon> ;-)
[03:28] <acidspoon> warum haut ubuntu mir die programme, die ich nachtrglich mit apt-get installiere nicht automatisch in das men rein
[03:29] <scrooch> darum nicht
[03:29] <acidspoon> wenn ichs mit diesem synoptic installiere, ist es im men
[03:29] <scrooch> xkill panel
[03:29] <acidspoon> wie kommt das?
[03:29] <scrooch> zufal
[03:29] <acidspoon> ne, im ernst
[03:29] <HappyFool> do you maybe have to restart gnome? or login an out?
[03:30] <acidspoon> gibts nicht auch nen mirror fr deutsche pakete von ubuntu
[03:30] <Nonphasis> english please
[03:31] <acidspoon> is it possible to use a german mirror for ubuntu in the file sources.list so that it load only german packages with apt-get
[03:31] <Nonphasis> anyone? would it be better to do Sid -> Hoary, or Sid -> Warty -> Hoary upgrade?
[03:31] <daniels> hm, I think this is the first piece of Vegemite toast I've had in about 3 months.  delicious.
[03:32] <Nonphasis> acidspoon: I think "mirror" means that the files are the exact same
[03:32] <Vince-0> How do I run synaptic in KDE ?
[03:32] <Nonphasis> Vince-0: alt-f2, synaptic :-)
[03:32] <Vince-0> Nonphasis: heh , k
[03:32] <Nonphasis> Vince-0: or more correctly, in term do sudo synaptic
[03:33] <Vince-0> k
[03:33] <Khantozavri> hi.... can anyone help me with enabling "samba" in ubuntu?
[03:33] <Nonphasis> Khantozavri: ubuntuguide.org
[03:34] <Ensiferum> how can i see the id of a certain user?
[03:34] <Nonphasis> Ensiferum: cat /etc/passwd
[03:34] <Ensiferum> Nonphasis: ah. thank you
[03:34] <HappyFool> grep <username> /etc/passwd
[03:35] <Khantozavri> i've been there, but no help. when I click "enable windows networking" in computer>system configuration>networking, system tells me that "SMB Support is not running"
[03:35] <Khantozavri> You don't have SMB support installed. Please install SMB support in the system to enable file sharing in Windows networks
[03:35] <Khantozavri> what's wrong?
[03:36] <Nonphasis> Khantozavri: sudo apt-get install samxa
[03:36] <Nonphasis> Khantozavri: sudo apt-get install samba
[03:36] <Khantozavri> thanks.... i'll do that, one more thing....
[03:36] <Khantozavri> I cant read unicode text
[03:36] <Nonphasis> gedit should work with unicode
[03:37] <Khantozavri> I've installed keyboard layout for my local language (georgian) and I can not type with it. When I do, i get just symbol codes, sort of u203
[03:37] <Gul3> hi! can somebody help me with this noob question: how do i mount my usb camera?
[03:38] <Khantozavri> i??????????????
[03:38] <Khantozavri> this was from my unicode keyboad.. lol
[03:38] <Nonphasis> Khantozavri: in gedit or terminal?
[03:38] <Khantozavri> in everywere, gedit doen't do good too
[03:39] <Khantozavri> seems to me that whole system can not understand utf or something
[03:39] <Krapmeister> thanks all for the help.. i think i'll need to tackle this another day..
[03:40] <Khantozavri> shouldn't samba be on the cd?
[03:40] <Nonphasis> Khantozavri: it should
[03:41] <Khantozavri> damn it, all the samba packages from the cd are installed.
[03:41] <Nonphasis> Khantozavri: /etc/init.d/samba start
[03:41] <Nonphasis> Khantozavri: sudo /etc/init.d/samba start I meant
[03:42] <Khantozavri> thanks, nonphasis, i know that sudo is meant by default ;)
[03:42] <Nonphasis> Khantozavri: ok ;-)
[03:42] <gsuveg> whats the default runlevel with gdm?
[03:43] <gsuveg> i what disable services at boot
[03:43] <Khantozavri> sudo: /etc/init.d/samba: command not found ..... was the result... :(
[03:43] <Nonphasis> chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm
[03:43] <daniels> Khantozavri: dpkg-reconfigure locales, pick a UTF-8 locale
[03:43] <daniels> Khantozavri: sorry, that should be sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[03:44] <gsuveg> Nonphasis: no. i want disable mysql at boot
[03:44] <Khantozavri> thanks daniels
[03:44] <gsuveg> if i remove x i cant start it by hand
[03:44] <Nonphasis> gsuveg: well, do the chmod -x to /etc/init.d/mysql then :-)
[03:45] <gsuveg> Nonphasis: i dont think thats the best solution
[03:46] <Nonphasis> gsuveg: it's not the best, but it's quick. red hat + friends have better solutions, but I'm not sure debian + ubuntu do...
[03:46] <gsuveg> ok
[03:47] <Nonphasis> Debian is kinda ass-backwards on this sysvinit thing
[03:48] <Prox2far> gul3, just mount jyoure camera like a ordinary drive
[03:50] <gsuveg> Nonphasis: op. but debian convig remove apache from start. thats would i know how
[03:50] <gsuveg> Nonphasis: im re-new in 'deb' year ago
[03:50] <Khantozavri> im sorry, but reconfigure locales didn't really help
[03:51] <Prox2far> gul3, are you still there
[03:51] <Gul3> yes. but i can't find the devicename
[03:51] <Nonphasis> gsuveg: it probobly used update-rc.d
[03:51] <Gul3> it's not sd
[03:52] <Lathiat> hi guys -- i was just wondering if theres some way to manipulate how irqs are assigned to pci devices because my usb, cardbus/pcmcia, video, firewire and ethernet are all on IRQ 11 and my ethernet is only getting 11mbit/s or so and I'm wondering if its affecting it.
[03:52] <Nonphasis> gsuveg: but it's nof for end users I've heard
[03:52] <cahoot> Gul3: what camera?
[03:53] <Prox2far> here's the line you need - sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,auto,exec,nosuid 0 0 - given you've made /mnt/usb the folder you wnat to mount too
[03:53] <Gul3> kodak easy share cx7300
[03:53] <gsuveg> Nonphasis: yes
[03:53] <Prox2far> gul,3 i may have messed up on the user permission things
[03:54] <d[-_-] b> lo
[03:54] <d[-_-] b> lo all :-)
[03:54] <cahoot> Gul3: any usable output from dmesg when plugging in the camera?
[03:55] <kosmonautti> Does anyone of you know how to get powernow-k8 module properly working? At the moment I get the following error message: "powernow-k8: BIOS Error: numpst must be 1" ?
[03:55] <Prox2far> gul3, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb - should be enough
[03:56] <Gul3> something like this: USB Mass Storage support registered.
[03:56] <Gul3> usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using address 2
[03:56] <Gul3> usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2?
[03:56] <Gul3> Prox2far: no, that is not enough. sda1 is not in /dev
[03:57] <Prox2far> gul3, damn
[03:57] <Guardiann> good morning people
[03:57] <Prox2far> guardian, good morning??? where the hell do you live???
[03:58] <Guardiann> Prox2far damm a long way from you I am in Ontario Cnada
[03:58] <cahoot> Gul3: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2005/01/06/digicam.html
[03:59] <Prox2far> guardian, LOL i'm in europe it's in the middle of the day here
[04:00] <Guardiann> i saw that denmark right?
[04:00] <brk3> where can i find the origanal ubuntu 'naked' wallpaper?
[04:00] <imka> hi
[04:01] <imka> can i set permissions recursively? eg. set the permission to my multimedia files by setting the permission of the "multimedia" folder?
[04:01] <kent> imka,  chmod/chown  -R sets it recursivly
[04:01] <Prox2far> guardian, how the dell could u see i'm in denmark???, WHOIS???
[04:01] <kent> imka,   that is..  for every file in the folder and subfolders
[04:02] <imka> kent thanks. it's not possible in nautilus, is it?
[04:02] <kosmonautti> Prox2far: Your domain
[04:02] <Guardiann> I cclicked on you name and it shows your location
[04:02] <kosmonautti> Prox2far: .dk
[04:02] <HappyFool> brk3: you mean maybe computer->system configuration->login screen setup->graphical greeter ?
[04:02] <kent> imka, not sure. You can do it for several files, but im unsure of subfolders :(  But select several files and choose properties.
[04:03] <imka> kent yea several files work i know
[04:03] <brk3> HappyFool: no theres a wallpaper that ubuntu first came out with but it had to be changed because it was a little dodgy. its meant to available as a post-install option but i cant find it
[04:03] <Prox2far> guardian, OK
[04:04] <CaPS_> Hello
[04:04] <CaPS_> Anyone know of a way to get Evolution to notify me about it receiving new mail in the panel or using a passive notification thingy?
[04:05] <brk3> HappyFool: found it: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3237&highlight=wallpaper
[04:05] <scrooch> CaPS_, there is a passive notification thingy as an applet in gnome-panel afaik
[04:06] <scrooch> ah,its called inbox monitor CaPS_
[04:06] <imka> kent it's simple enough from the console, thanks
[04:06] <CaPS_> There's a notification applet, but it requires either a local inbox or pop login data.. I have evolution set to fetch mail every X minutes, that'll mismatch :/ Can't evolution send off an event notification?
[04:07] <scrooch> no clue
[04:14] <vafnord> How do I share a CUPS printer with other machines on my network (all Linux)
[04:17] <Nonphasis> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/upgrade-sarge
[04:18] <Nonphasis> has sid -> hoary upgrade report, for someone that asked
[04:18] <Nonphasis> if he's still around
[04:20] <suix> hi
[04:20] <exlt> vafnord: edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to listen to your IP, then point to clients to http://hostname:631/printers/PrinterName
[04:20] <suix> I've some problems updating to hoary
[04:21] <suix> I've changed warty with hoary in the repostories list
[04:21] <exlt> vafnord: http://mumford1.dyndns.org/~bs7452/linuxhelp/cups.html
[04:21] <cahoot> vafnord: cups running on the clients - and client.conf pointing to the server
[04:21] <Finity> hello all
[04:21] <suix> but it cant get the lists
[04:22] <nozkan> hi my friends
[04:22] <Nonphasis> suix: apt-get update fails?
[04:22] <suix> yup
[04:22] <nozkan> I can't play vcd with totem. why ?
[04:23] <kent> suix, have you run update on the list?  press update in synaptic (or run apt-get update   in the terminal)
[04:23] <Nonphasis> suix: you didn't forget sudo by any chance?
[04:23] <Finity> what is Gaim?
[04:23] <suix> iot fails
[04:23] <suix> nope
[04:23] <Nonphasis> suix: perhaps typo in sources.list?
[04:23] <Nonphasis> suix: paste the line
[04:23] <suix> ?
[04:24] <suix> typo?
[04:24] <Nonphasis> suix: misspelling
[04:24] <ermo> Finity: Multiprotocol IM-client for gnome. Visit http://gaim.sf.net for more info
[04:24] <suix> where's the file
[04:24] <Finity> k, thnx
[04:24] <vafnord> exlt: I edit /etc/cups/cupssd.conf on the server?
[04:25] <Nonphasis> suix: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:25] <Finity> it's like Trillian, only for gnome
[04:25] <Finity> ?
[04:25] <suix> do u want me paste it here?
[04:25] <suix> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[04:25] <suix> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted
[04:25] <exlt> vafnord: by default, it only listens to localhost, so you need to allow your lan
[04:26] <suix> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe
[04:26] <suix> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe
[04:26] <suix> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted
[04:26] <suix> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary-security main restricted
[04:27] <Nonphasis> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hoary main restricted universe
[04:27] <Nonphasis> I had only that and apt-get update worked ok
[04:27] <Nonphasis> 5 minutes ago
[04:27] <ermo> Finity: in a sense, yes.
[04:28] <kent> suix, Nonphasis perhaps apt dont like that he have  "deb hoary main restricted" in two places? (first line, and then in the line with universe
[04:28] <ermo> Finity: Now stop bugging me and try it out already ;)
[04:28] <exlt> vafnord: change 'Port <IP_ADDRESS>:631' to 'Port 631' and add Allow 'From 192.168.1.*' in the <Location /> section (or whatever your lan range is)
[04:29] <Nonphasis> kent: maybe
[04:29] <Nonphasis> suix: now what error do you get on apt-get update?
[04:29] <Finity> hehe... I think I might.... (The windows port of course... my cds are on their way)
[04:29] <crimsun> kent: doesn't really matter at all.
[04:29] <crimsun> kent: it'll gripe, but it's not fatal.
[04:29] <suix> now I dont have
[04:29] <exlt> vafnord: that should be -  add 'Allow From 192.168.1.*'
[04:29] <suix> Obj http://archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages
[04:30] <suix> which is the meaning of obj?
[04:32] <thepoch> anyone here using warty or hoary on an ibook g4 1.2ghz?
[04:33] <Finity> I have a question... can you change the look (color wise) of ubuntu?
[04:33] <Tomcat_> Finity: Sure... check the Themes option
[04:34] <dayson> can someone tell me how to set a filter on synaptic package manager? When I start it it tells me I have one broken package and I can use the broken filter to find it but when I set it it doesnt do anything
[04:34] <exlt> vafnord: here is my entire cupsd.conf, without all the comments - http://pastebin.ca/3961
[04:34] <skreet> Anyone know why the stock nv driver doesnt work with a 6800GT?
[04:35] <skreet> I had to use vesa
[04:35] <mjr> Q: "Why the stock nv driver doesn't do X?" A: "Nvidia aren't co-operative."
[04:36] <Finity> is ATI co-operative?
[04:36] <mjr> not nowadays
[04:36] <mjr> pretty much all mainstream video card manufacturers are evil, which is a shame
[04:36] <skreet> mjr: except nvidia...
[04:36] <skreet> They're not that big though
[04:36] <skreet> It's easy to miss them.
[04:36] <Finity> :(
[04:37] <skreet> Finity: I just bought a 6800GT because I had a Radeon and Linux drivers are.. scarce.
[04:37] <dayson> can someone tell me how to set a filter on synaptic package manager? When I start it it tells me I have one broken package and I can use the broken filter to find it but when I set it it doesnt do anything
[04:37] <linux_mafia> anyone know when mono will be installable in hoary again?
[04:37] <vafnord> exlt: I think I have the server side right, but when I try to add the printer on the client side
[04:38] <vafnord> exlt: all of the sudden the printer connection GUI won't let me select drivers
[04:38] <exlt> vafnord: you restarted cups on the server, correct?
[04:38] <vafnord> D'oh!
[04:38] <mjr> Skwid_, I didn't
[04:38] <mjr> oops, skreet
[04:43] <Ed_Gein> anyone have any luck playing shn files
[04:44] <crimsun> Ed_Gein: yes, why?
[04:44] <\8^D> ed gein was a serial killer lawlz
[04:44] <Ed_Gein> where did you find the plugin?
[04:44] <crimsun> Ed_Gein: www.etree.org
[04:44] <Finity> You can change the resolution in Ubuntu to 1600x1200 right?
[04:44] <Ed_Gein> why yes he was
[04:44] <skreet> Anyone know of a good how-to for setting up software raid on a S3112 so I can pull data off my windows partition?
[04:44] <skreet> Finity: i'm running 1600x1200 right now.
[04:44] <tvoss> hi all, anyone experienced in installing ubuntu on laptop?
[04:44] <crimsun> Finity: certainly
[04:45] <Finity> I guess not... :)
[04:45] <Ed_Gein> crimson:damn
[04:45] <crimsun> Ed_Gein: ?
[04:45] <Ed_Gein> was hoping it was in a repository somewhere
[04:45] <skreet> Anyone know of a HOWTO for software raid setup?
[04:45] <crimsun> Ed_Gein: license prevents it from being in an official repo
[04:46] <Ed_Gein> I founfdthat one but the install is giving my noob self fits
[04:46] <Finity> Can you move the "Start" button to the bottom, rather than the top?
[04:46] <crimsun> you have to compile it.
[04:46] <Guardiann> the start button?
[04:46] <crimsun> Finity: "the 'Start' button?"
[04:46] <Guardiann> :)
[04:47] <Ed_Gein> crimsun:tried, after ./configure I run make but get a no makefile error
[04:47] <crimsun> Finity: if you're referring to the menu bar, simply drag it to the bottom.
[04:47] <wezzer-> Finity: gnome "foot"?
[04:47] <broodster> What's a good place to play poker on linux?
[04:47] <Finity> Yah, that little foot
[04:47] <Finity> :)
[04:47] <tvoss> Dave2: You also got problems with ubuntu on your laptop?
[04:47] <crimsun> Finity: drag it to the bottom of your screen. It's that simple.
[04:48] <Finity> is that what it's called?
[04:48] <Dave2|Laptop> tvoss, nah, just joined in case I can't find any docs on UTF-8ing Ubuntu
[04:48] <crimsun> Ed_Gein: do you have all the dependencies installed?
[04:48] <Dave2|Laptop> It worked fine on my laptop, with one exception, wifi wasn't set up properly
[04:49] <Ed_Gein> crimsun: I honestly don't know
[04:49] <tvoss> Dave2: Perhaps you can help me a little ... I can't get to work X in 1280x800!
[04:49] <Dave2|Laptop> tvoss, my laptop only goes up to 1024x768, so I haven't a clue
[04:49] <crimsun> woops, my versions of 'shorten' and 'xmms-shn' are old
[04:49] <wezzer-> I have a problem with x too
[04:50] <tvoss> Dave2 thx anyway
[04:50] <Dave2|Laptop> Also I get no 3D acceleration with my SiS chip for some reason, but I've had that on every X version I've tried
[04:50] <Dave2|Laptop> *X version on every distro
[04:50] <wezzer-> I can't get bigger refreshrate than 60 Hz, even though my monitor supports up to 75 Hz
[04:50] <wezzer-> And I put the right H & V sync rates to x-config
[04:50] <wezzer-> strange...
[04:51] <Finity> what file system does Ubuntu use?
[04:51] <wezzer-> ext3?
[04:51] <tvoss> wezzer- I've got the same problem
[04:51] <ermo> Finity, whatever you want it to.
[04:51] <crimsun> Finity: ext3 if you don't specify anything
[04:51] <\8^D> what is ubuntu
[04:51] <\8^D> a nigerian businessman?
[04:51] <ermo> \8^D, an african word.
[04:51] <tvoss> wezzer- you should google for a modeline
[04:52] <wezzer> ok
[04:52] <crimsun> wezzer-: better yet, use the 'gtf' utility to create your own modeline
[04:52] <wezzer> \8^D: "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others". Ubuntu also means "I am what I am because of who we all are".
[04:52] <wezzer> gtf? never even heard about it...
[04:52] <Finity> can it use NTFS?
[04:52] <\8^D> WTFS
[04:52] <wezzer> Finity: it can read NTFS, but can't write
[04:53] <ermo> \8^D, or so I've read. On the ubuntu website. On the front page. Right at the top.
[04:53] <vafnord> exlt: Hooray, just printed a test page from my laptop!
[04:53] <Finity> I wish I had a Printer ...
[04:54] <\8^D> i use the filesystem OMGWTFS
[04:54] <vafnord> Finity: This Lexmark E210 I have works great with linux and cost $250 about 3 years ago
[04:54] <scrooch> now that it works great with linux it costs 300 dollar in 2005
[04:55] <Ed_Gein> Finity: I picked up an epson stylus C84 for $75 new and it works great
[04:55] <Nonphasis> Finity: ubuntuguid.org has instructions for ntfs
[04:55] <broodster> how do i get java to wokr on firefox?
[04:55] <Nonphasis> Finity: ubuntuguide.org
[04:55] <Finity> It's %50
[04:55] <Finity> 50$*
[04:55] <paul_holmes> I am getting an error message from mysql-query-browser that it cannot connect through mysql.sock. I have searched for this file but I cannot locate it. I have also re-installed mysql-client. This has not replaced the file. Can anybody help? Thanks.
[04:55] <Finity> wait... it can only read off of my other partitions?
[04:55] <vafnord> exlt: The odd thing is in the printers GUI on the client, this network CUPS printer appears to be local.
[04:56] <linux_mafia> broodster, you installed java yet?
[04:56] <Finity> that site doesn't work nonphasis
[04:56] <vafnord> The lexmark E210 is b&w laser
[04:56] <Finity> oh, lol, nvm
[04:56] <Ed_Gein> broodster: here http://ubuntuguide.org/
[04:57] <Nonphasis> hah, ubuntuguide.org should be in /topic
[04:57] <Nonphasis> nevermind, it is
[04:57] <exlt> vafnord: ahh, the beauty of inter-networking
[04:58] <vafnord> exlt: Many thanks for your help.
[04:58] <Ed_Gein> Nonphasis: Ubuntuguide.org should be renamed the Holy Bible
[04:59] <linux_mafia> i still think its bizzare that, that guide and others dont tell people to use the java-package app, its so much easier than buggering around with env options etc
[04:59] <vafnord> exlt: Everytime I come here for help my problem is solved in less than 10 minutes.
[04:59] <Finity> does Ubuntu (or any Distro for that matter) support DirectX
[04:59] <\8^D> Ed_Gein: do u have naked headless chicks made into suits in your garage?
[04:59] <Finity> ?
[04:59] <skreet> Finity: No
[04:59] <skreet> DirectX is a microsoft product
[05:00] <Ed_Gein> \8^D : 3-4 hundred
[05:00] <skreet> if you're looking to game in linux Cedega does a decent job emulating Direct3d
[05:00] <Finity> They should make a DirectLinux
[05:00] <skreet> Finity: How do you figure, thats loss for them.
[05:00] <skreet> There are THOUSANDS of people who only use windows because they game
[05:00] <skreet> << is one of them
[05:00] <skreet> I got this card in hopes of changing that.
[05:01] <Dave2|Laptop> How many gamers actually pay for Windows because of gaming though?
[05:01] <Dave2|Laptop> I'd imagine a small proportion.
[05:01] <skreet> You'd think so.
[05:01] <dcoop> prolly a few
[05:01] <Dave2|Laptop> Though it'd be a loss of market share which would have a huge impact.
[05:01] <d[-_-] b> lo all :-)
[05:01] <dcoop> i did
[05:01] <skreet> But theres alot of "GAMERS" that arnt really nerds about computers
[05:01] <skreet> ;)
[05:01] <skreet> I work at a computer store I see them alllll the time
[05:01] <linux_mafia> skreet, amen
[05:01] <Finity> I have XP Pirated Edition :)
[05:01] <skreet> "I need a 300$ computer to play Doom 3, you can do that right?"
[05:01] <skreet> "Yea sure, heres Dell's website.."
[05:01] <Finity> I just got the GAIM windows port
[05:02] <skreet> "Dont come back to us though."
[05:02] <skreet> Gaim is nice.
[05:02] <Dave2|Laptop> I have a licence for XP home. Don't use it though.
[05:02] <Dave2|Laptop> (Came with the laptop)
[05:02] <Ed_Gein> Doom3 isn't worth the $29 price tag
[05:02] <vafnord> Soon people who only want to game will stop bothering with PCs and stick to consoles like they should.
[05:02] <Ed_Gein> imho
[05:02] <Finity> I own it, it's alright
[05:02] <dcoop> i was disappointed in doom3
[05:02] <skreet> Ed_Gein: I thought it was decent
[05:02] <Finity> I am just waiting for Quake 4
[05:02] <skreet> I just got it with my video card I should install it
[05:02] <skreet> Its native linux now right?
[05:03] <d[-_-] b> hello, does anyone here have any experience with getting ubuntu to access windows shares over a network
[05:03] <Dave2|Laptop> yes.
[05:03] <Finity> Half Life 2 KILLS Doom 3, yet it's install is just plain ignoramous
[05:03] <chapter3> hey all, i just re-installed ubuntu, and now there is a noticable lag on redraw when the screen refreshes, any ideas?
[05:03] <zenwhen> KILLS it?
[05:03] <Ed_Gein> skreet:I thought it wasgorgeous. But, hte gameplay was lacking
[05:03] <Nonphasis> Finity: cedega warks with directx games
[05:03] <zenwhen> They arent even comparable.
[05:03] <skreet> d[-_-] b: LinuxNeiborhood (sp?) is a nice program.
[05:03] <Dave2|Laptop> http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/
[05:03] <sulkd> hah you're on crack.. Half Life 2 goes straight to the "got no ideas so lets make you navigate a maze"
[05:03] <zenwhen> They aren't even the same kind of game.
[05:03] <vafnord> chapter3: Do you have an nvidia video card?
[05:03] <chapter3> ja
[05:03] <skreet> Ed_Gein: It's a shoot-em-up game. Look at any of the dooms, they never had much content.
[05:03] <Ed_Gein> skreet:after an hour or so I was bored
[05:03] <Nonphasis> actually, Linux is ok for games these days
[05:03] <d[-_-] b> thanks
[05:03] <dcoop> i am having the some problem as chapter3
[05:04] <skreet> chapter3: Install the nvidia driver
[05:04] <Nonphasis> though I only play Enemy Territory ;-)
[05:04] <skreet> let me find the HOWTO i was jus there.
[05:04] <chapter3> I believe it's already installed
[05:04] <vafnord> chapter3: you probably need to install nvidia-glx its non-free.
[05:04] <dcoop> i it on the ubuntuguide
[05:04] <TenPlus1> Can WINE let you play games ok ?
[05:04] <chapter3> nvidia-glx is installed
[05:04] <Dave2|Laptop> Cedega is by no means a complete solution
[05:04] <dcoop> is ur card pci or agp
[05:04] <Dave2|Laptop> There's a lot of stuff it won't run
[05:04] <zenwhen> TenPlus1, some games, yes.
[05:04] <atmos> can i use the marillat packages for mplayer on ubuntu ?
[05:04] <chapter3> apg
[05:04] <Nonphasis> d[-_-] b: go to Computers -> Network
[05:04] <skreet> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:04] <linux_mafia> atmos, if you wish
[05:05] <Ed_Gein> skreet:FarCry, an amazing game. THe AI and the graphics make it the game of the year in my eyes
[05:05] <Finity> hey ed_gain... did you say you were bored with Doom 3 or HL2?
[05:05] <atmos> linux_mafia: they should work fine though, right ?
[05:05] <vafnord> Did you enable it? sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[05:05] <TenPlus1> will give it a bash then :)
[05:05] <broodster> broodster@broodster:~ $ sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[05:05] <d[-_-] b> ok ive gone there
[05:05] <broodster> Password:
[05:05] <broodster> ln: `/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins//libjavaplugin_oji.so': File exists
[05:05] <broodster> broodster@broodster:~ $ sudo ln -s /usr/java/jre1.5.0_01/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[05:05] <broodster> ln: `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins//libjavaplugin_oji.so': File exists
[05:05] <Finity> anyone have a Gaim account?
[05:05] <vafnord> and restart X?  I actually got better performance without those settings
[05:08] <dcoop> yeah
[05:08] <dcoop> i tried those 2
[05:08] <dcoop> but
[05:08] <dcoop> i took them out
[05:08] <thepoch> anyone seen this bug... browse a folder in nautilus, and use the tree view. the tree view has humongous folder icons. this is under hoary.
[05:08] <dcoop> also in the guide
[05:09] <dcoop> it doesnt tell u disable GLcore or dri
[05:09] <Ed_Gein> dcoop :same here
[05:09] <dcoop> i get about 990 fps on a pci nvidia 5500
[05:09] <dcoop> but just looks really crappy
[05:09] <daniels> glxgears is not a benchmark
[05:10] <dcoop> i know
[05:10] <dayson> how would I creat a launcher for steam if I'm using cedega to use it?
[05:10] <no0tic> daniels: it's a good starting point though
[05:10] <vafnord> Is anyone having trouble with the machine locking up when running OpenGL stuff?
[05:10] <d[-_-] b> anyone else here getting a "The folder contents could not be displayed." error when accessing a windows share?
[05:10] <skreet> I get 10,000 FPS on a 6800GT
[05:10] <skreet> :D
[05:10] <Ed_Gein> glxgears depends on too many variables to be viable benchmark
[05:10] <dcoop> yeah b4 i installed the nvidia drivers i was getting 90 fps now about 900
[05:11] <Finity> wow... :)
[05:11] <dcoop> i have the splash screen
[05:11] <Ed_Gein> skreet:is that it
[05:11] <Finity> on what game?
[05:11] <skreet> Ed_Gein: What do you get Ed?
[05:11] <vafnord> Not on a game, just running the Polyhedra screensaver.
[05:11] <skreet> It's gone up to 12000, think the card warmed up :D
[05:11] <Ed_Gein> default window about 14,000
[05:11] <skreet> What card?
[05:11] <vafnord> It locks up my machine at a random interval.
[05:11] <skreet> ~12500 now
[05:11] <Ed_Gein> bfgtech 6800 gt
[05:11] <skreet> is it the OC?
[05:11] <skreet> mines an eVGA
[05:12] <Ed_Gein> yes
[05:12] <skreet> thats the diff :D
[05:12] <skreet> 256MB?
[05:12] <skreet> AGP or PCI-E?
[05:12] <Finity> I ordered 25 i386 CDs, so I will get 5- Disks
[05:12] <Ed_Gein> yes
[05:12] <maps73> Good morning.
[05:12] <Finity> crap...
[05:12] <Finity> 50*
[05:12] <Finity> hi maps73
[05:12] <skreet> has *ANYONE* here ever used dmraid?
[05:12] <daniels> 14000 won't be frames per second, it will be frames per five seconds
[05:12] <Ed_Gein> if only FARCRY would play reasonably well
[05:12] <daniels> which is sub-3000 fps
[05:13] <skreet> 61344 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12268.800 FPS
[05:13] <skreet> daniels: You were saying? :D
[05:13] <dayson> how would I creat a launcher for steam if I'm using cedega to run it?
[05:13] <daniels> in any case, it doesn't matter what glxgears says -- if it shows you have glx working, great.  but that's it.
[05:13] <daniels> skreet: i stand corrected
[05:13] <skreet> dayson: #cedega
[05:13] <dcoop> yeah
[05:13] <skreet> daniels: :D I thought you might.
[05:13] <Nonphasis> Ed_Gein: is it supported in cedega?
[05:14] <Ed_Gein> Nonphasis : Sort of
[05:14] <skreet> Nonphasis: Steam? Yes thats the big thing with 4.2
[05:14] <Ed_Gein> Nonphasis :it installs an dplay sbut runs like hell
[05:14] <Finity> There is a Linux Driver for my graphics card :)
[05:14] <skreet> Ed_Gein: Even in opengl mode?
[05:14] <skreet> Finity: What card do you have?
[05:14] <daniels> skreet: in any case, it's an utterly useless benchmark.
[05:14] <Nonphasis> skreet: no, far cry
[05:14] <skreet> daniels: yea.
[05:14] <Finity> ATI Radeon 9600 XT
[05:15] <skreet> Finity: good luck
[05:15] <Nonphasis> Ed_Gein: what card?
[05:15] <daniels> skreet: if you want a decent benchmark, try something which has multiple lighting sources and many complicated textures, i.e. what current games have.  even better, try the game you actually want to run and see how it runs.
[05:15] <Ed_Gein> Nonphasis :6800 gt oc
[05:15] <skreet> Ed_Gein: You still use windows to game then?
[05:15] <daniels> unless you really can tell the difference between how many thousand fps you get with a spinning pair of gears, and care about it
[05:15] <Ed_Gein> skreet :some
[05:15] <skreet> Ed_Gein: I was hoping to abandon windows :(
[05:16] <skreet> WoW's newest version supports -opengl so I'm hoping it runs nice
[05:16] <skreet> No one here has every used dmraid?
[05:16] <Ed_Gein> skreet :until I finish Pandora Tomorrow and FarCry
[05:16] <maps73> Hy Vaportrail , how are you?
[05:16] <Finity> Quake 3 is Open GL
[05:16] <Ed_Gein> xmms-shn is driving me mad
[05:16] <Nonphasis> well, if far cry supports opengl, I suppose it will run quite fast
[05:17] <Finity>  	 Linux drivers available on our website are packaged in RPM format. RPM is useful for delivering binary content, and can be converted to other binary formats using freely available tools such as alien.
[05:17] <Finity> BTW, how much space does Ubuntu take up on the HDD?
[05:17] <daniels> Finity: http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki/BinaryDriversHowto
[05:17] <Ed_Gein> df -h
[05:17] <skreet> 1.6 GB
[05:18] <skreet> ish
[05:18] <Finity> hi vafnord
[05:18] <skreet> Thats waht I have used.
[05:18] <vafnord> Finity: Hi.
[05:18] <vafnord> glxgears locked my machine!
[05:18] <Finity> what version of the Linux Kernel does it use?
[05:18] <atropus> I have got  a k3b error message: cdrecord returned an unknown error (code 255) Can you help me?
[05:18] <skreet> Finity: 2.4
[05:18] <Ed_Gein> dev/hda1             147G   13G  127G   9%
[05:18] <Finity> Good :)
[05:20] <Ed_Gein> Trying to install the xmms-shn plugin when I run ./configure I get this error "configure: error: *** XMMS >= 1.0.0 not installed - please install first ***
[05:20] <Ed_Gein> "
[05:21] <Nonphasis> for proof how much linux kicks windows's ass - I'm currently upgrading to hoary, and I can run ircci and galeon normally. In windows I would only be staring a progress bar...
[05:21] <Ed_Gein> Nonphasis:how stable is Hoary
[05:21] <Nonphasis> Ed_Gein: no idea yet. I'll see after reboot :-)
[05:22] <Ed_Gein> smacks self
[05:22] <Guardiann> its not but getting better
[05:22] <Ed_Gein> blonde moment
[05:22] <vafnord> Is anyone still discussing nvidia-glx?
[05:22] <Nonphasis> yeah :)
[05:22] <Finity> what is xfree86?
[05:22] <Ed_Gein> configure: error: *** XMMS >= 1.0.0 not installed - please install first ***
[05:22] <skreet> Finity: *sigh* The X server.
[05:22] <Ed_Gein> but I have xmms installed? wtf?
[05:23] <Nonphasis> Ed_Gein: is there xmms-devel or whatever?
[05:23] <Finity> what is the x server?
[05:23] <skreet> Finity: You dont know much about linux do you? IT's the back-end for the GUI
[05:23] <vafnord> Finity:  The thing that makes the pretty boxes on the screen.
[05:24] <Finity> skreet:  no
[05:24] <maps73> , how could i check if i've installed the SDL library on my ubuntu? thank you
[05:24] <Ed_Gein> Nonphasis : WHy does it want to remove mplayer, Mozilla-mplayer to upgrade
[05:24] <andreas_> HEY GUYS
[05:24] <Finity> what version does ubuntu come with?
[05:24] <Guardiann> hey
[05:24] <broodster> Finity: of what?
[05:24] <skreet> Finity: Who knows, it gets updated after the install anyway
[05:24] <Nonphasis> Ed_Gein: what app?
[05:24] <vafnord> finity: 4.3
[05:25] <Ed_Gein> Nonphasis :xmms. When I try to upgrade to xmms-dev
[05:25] <Finity> I think that my GFX card will work PERFECTLY then on Ubuntu
[05:25] <vafnord> Finity: watchoo got?
[05:26] <Nonphasis> Ed_Gein: dunno. allow the uninstall of mplayer and see how reinstall of it goes
[05:26] <Finity> ATI Radeon 9600 XT
[05:26] <andreas_> does anybody know when more of the 32bits programs gonna get supported by ubuntu 64
[05:26] <Finity> does everyone here develop?
[05:26] <Nonphasis> Finity: nvidia cards work PERFECTLY ;-)
[05:26] <Ed_Gein> Nonphasis : After the hoops I had to jump thorugh to get mplayer to play nicely?
[05:26] <vafnord> Finity:nope
[05:26] <Ed_Gein> Nonphasis : Not so sure about that
[05:26] <Finity> oh, lol
[05:26] <Nonphasis> Ed_Gein: what did you have to do for mplayer?
[05:27] <vafnord> Nonphasis: Really?  Then maybe you can tell me why my machine locks up whenever I try to do anything openGL
[05:27] <vafnord> I have GeForce4 TI4200
[05:27] <Ed_Gein> Nonphasis : it took a few hours of reading and searching
[05:27] <Nonphasis> vafnord: hmm, perhaps some AGP motherboard crap. my ti4200 works liek a charm
[05:28] <Finity> Do I have to get Linux MOBO Drivers Also?
[05:28] <vafnord> Nonphasis: What do you mean "AGP motherboard crap"?
[05:28] <Ed_Gein> Nonphasis : icould always just convert the shn's to another format
[05:28] <Finity> do MOBO's have drivers... I am confused now...
[05:28] <wezzer> is there going to be alsaconf in Hoary?
[05:28] <Nonphasis> vafnord: well, there are 2 AGP bus drivers I think...
[05:29] <Nonphasis> vafnord: agpart and nvidias own agp
[05:29] <Nonphasis> vafnord: have you read the binary driver readme?
[05:29] <vafnord> Nonphasis: nope
[05:29] <Ed_Gein> vafnord:have fun
[05:29] <AigleDor> does someone have a speedtouch modem here?
[05:30] <Nonphasis> vafnord: try it, it has some troubleshooting help. new nv drivers have worked great for me
[05:30] <vafnord> Nonphasis: I just did a lsmod
[05:30] <Nonphasis> Finity: not really
[05:30] <vafnord> Nonphasis: and it appears that both nvidia_agp and agpart are running
[05:30] <randabis-wireles> greetings
[05:30] <Agatha_Christie> hi all
[05:30] <Nonphasis> Finity: it's an x serser configuration issue
[05:30] <Finity> I didn't think so... what is?
[05:30] <Nonphasis> vafnord: might that be a problem?
[05:31] <Nonphasis> Finity: mobo drivers
[05:31] <vafnord> Nonphasis: I was kinda hoping you'd tell me.
[05:31] <Ed_Gein> vafnord:when you run glxgears what happens
[05:31] <Nonphasis> vafnord: I won't, because I haven't had the prob myself. You should really consult the driver readme
[05:31] <Nonphasis> vafnord: I recall there was a chapter about that
[05:32] <vafnord> Eg_Gein: My machine locks up!
[05:32] <vafnord> Ed_Gein: My machine locks up!
[05:33] <Finity> when is 2.9.2 coming out?
[05:33] <vafnord> Nonphasis: Where do I find this binary driver readme?
[05:33] <Nonphasis> vafnord: check out /usr/share/doc/
[05:34] <Nonphasis> vafnord: if that doesn't help go to nvidias homepage and d/l the driver
[05:34] <Nonphasis> vafnord: I cant say directly because I'm on my soon-to-be-hoary box ATM
[05:35] <Guardiann> :)
[05:35] <Ed_Gein> Nonphasis:waiting for a report
[05:35] <randabis-wireles> wish I could get my sound working...
[05:35] <randabis-wireles> worked fine in hoary
[05:35] <randabis-wireles> err
[05:35] <randabis-wireles> warty
[05:35] <Nonphasis> Ed_Gein: if you don't hear from me after a while, you will know that it sucked ;-)
[05:35] <atropus> I have got  a k3b error message: cdrecord returned an unknown error (code 255) Can you help me?
[05:35] <Ed_Gein> lol
[05:36] <Nonphasis> what's interesting is that kde packages have -ubuntu suffix now
[05:36] <Nonphasis> that rocks
[05:38] <vafnord> Aha!  I have to remove Load "dri" and Load "GLCore" from my XF86Config-4
[05:42] <noobuntu> hello all...
[05:42] <scrooch> hi
[05:43] <noobuntu> First time on an IRC channel and first time ubuntu user
[05:43] <Finity> hehe, Hit noobuntu... I like the name
[05:43] <scrooch> nice to meet you noobuntu  :)
[05:43] <Finity> HOLY COW!
[05:43] <noobuntu> thank u, finity and scrooch
[05:43] <noobuntu> I have a question about how to start my apache service...
[05:43] <atropus> I have got  a k3b error message: cdrecord returned an unknown error (code 255) Can you help me?
[05:43] <atropus> I have got  a k3b error message: cdrecord returned an unknown error (code 255) Can you help me?
[05:43] <Finity> wait... DON'T HIT NOOBUNTU... I MEANT TO SAY HI
[05:44] <noobuntu> lol...
[05:44] <Finity> :)
[05:44] <scrooch> lmao Finity ... didnt notice the HIT lol
[05:44] <noobuntu> I didn't notice myself and I was the one being hit!   Xchat wont do transparency anymore, it says my Windows manager is unsupported :?  All I did was reboot
[05:45] <atropus> or do you have any idea how can I find docs
[05:45] <noobuntu> but now I need to figure out how to start the apache service itself... the conf files look okay...
[05:46] <noobuntu> I am used to RH where you can just say 'service <servicename> start' or whatever but that doesn't seem to do it on ubuntu
[05:47] <exlt> noobuntu: the RH service util is just a front end to /etc/init.d/service_name start/stop/restart - look in /etc/init.d/
[05:47] <noobuntu> omigosh... I never knew that! I will try that asap... thanks!!! I'll let you know how it goes
[05:47] <Finity> why is it that in all of the screenshots, there is only a CD on the desktop... you can put more on the desktop right?
[05:48] <kotau> you can put whatever you want on the desktop
[05:48] <kotau> ...
[05:48] <Finity> oh, good
[05:48] <kotau> icons, files, scripts, GUI modifications... right click on stuff
[05:49] <kotau> so is there any reason that since the reboot [the first actual powering down of this system]  that transparency isnt supported anymore?
[05:50] <noobuntu> exlt, just 1 more thing: I just did that as root, am I right or is it bad to run httpd as root? shall I shut down and do it under a different user?
[05:50] <kotau> stupid broads like to hit power buttons on large computers that arent theres ><
[05:51] <exlt> noobuntu: root will need to start the service, but apache will actually run as a non-priviledged user, www, I think
[05:51] <Finity> your sister turned it of?
[05:51] <Finity> off*
[05:51] <kotau> finity: if it was my sister I'd slap her, sh knows better
[05:51] <Finity> They should make an OpenGLinux
[05:51] <Finity> haha
[05:51] <noobuntu> okay exlt... but I just tried to hit http://localhost and it told me 'the connection was refused'...??? :(
[05:51] <Finity> my brothers are afraid to ASK to use MY computer
[05:52] <Finity> ... and my guitar...
[05:52] <kotau> now to set the BIOS so the front case buttons are worthless and do nothing but lock the computer
[05:52] <exlt> noobuntu: does 'netstat -a' show that http is listening?  if not, 'tail /var/log/apache/error_log'
[05:54] <strixy> hello
[05:54] <Guardiann> hello
[05:54] <Finity> hi anto__o, linux_mafia, and strixy
[05:54] <anto__o> hi Finity
[05:54] <anto__o> hey guys
[05:54] <kotau> That's odd.  Xchat wont do transparency anymore, it says my Windows manager is unsupported :?  All I did was reboot. Anyone?
[05:55] <strixy> Finity: hello :)
[05:55] <strixy> Can anyone help me figure out how to change my host name / domain name in Ubuntu?
[05:55] <Finity> I know why kotau....
[05:56] <Finity> actually, I don't even have Ubuntu yet... sorry to get your hopes up :|
[05:56] <noobuntu> exlt: /var/log/apache2 has no files and I don't believe I saw http listening... :(
[05:56] <linux_mafia> Finity, hi, whats up
[05:56] <noobuntu> I'll try the start again
[05:56] <Finity> not much... you?
[05:57] <linux_mafia> Finity, jus chillin, trying to get beagle going
[05:57] <exlt> noobuntu: if no files, then it did not start up at all - you got no feedback when starting the server?  /var/lg/messages or syslog have anything helpful?
[05:57] <strixy> Can anyone help me figure out how to change my host name / domain name in Ubuntu from localhost.localdomain to mydomain.com?
[05:57] <noobuntu> exlt: yeah when I start the service it doesn't report anything to the screen - no messages or anything... will look at var log msgs next
[05:58] <noobuntu> messages has only 1 line: Jan  9 06:47:02 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#14ubuntu4: restart.
[05:59] <noobuntu> exlt.. hold on... messages.0 looks like it has some useful stuff...
[05:59] <noobuntu> Jan  9 06:22:14 localhost gconfd (root-3988): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory" to a read-only configuration source at position 0
[05:59] <noobuntu> Jan  9 06:22:14 localhost gconfd (root-3988): Resolved address "xml:readwrite:/root/.gconf" to a writable configuration source at position 1
[05:59] <noobuntu> Jan  9 06:22:14 localhost gconfd (root-3988): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 2
[05:59] <noobuntu> Jan  9 06:25:28 localhost syslogd 1.4.1#14ubuntu4: restart.
[05:59] <noobuntu> Jan  9 06:40:51 localhost -- MARK --
[05:59] <exlt> noobuntu: nah...
[05:59] <noobuntu> oh.. :-|
[06:00] <exlt> noobuntu: did you just apt-get install apache2 (and the deps)
[06:00] <noobuntu> exlt: yes
[06:00] <exlt> noobuntu: installing now...
[06:01] <noobuntu> exlt: what do you mean 'installing now'... oh... did you mean I had to do some extra stuff to install it?
[06:01] <exlt> noobuntu: no, I am installing apache
[06:02] <noobuntu> oh... :)
[06:02] <exlt> noobuntu: you should have also gotten - The following extra packages will be installed: apache2-common apache2-mpm-worker libapr0 libpcre3 openssl ssl-cert
[06:03] <noobuntu> I will see if I have those....
[06:03] <AigleDor> is it possible to have more than one X session?
[06:03] <mjr> yes
[06:03] <AigleDor> how?
[06:04] <AigleDor> startx doesnt work
[06:04] <noobuntu> exlt: woops... I didn't get any of the mpm-worker stuff... getting it now...
[06:04] <mjr> applications/system tools/new login is the easiest way
[06:04] <exlt> noobuntu: zero changes to configs and '/etc/init.d/apache2 start' gives me 'tcp6       0      0 *:www                   *:*                     LISTEN'
[06:05] <andreas_> does anybody know when more of the 32bits programs gonna get supported by ubuntu 64
[06:05] <andreas_> in the apt get servers
[06:05] <crimsun> andreas_: hoary has considerably more.
[06:06] <daniels> andreas_: which ones in particular?
[06:06] <kotau> fixed it... my background was an image from a NTFS diskthat I had mounted, but I had the wrong fstab mount to properly view the drive [I had put a gid that didnt exist in the permissions]
[06:06] <kotau> so now I get transparency again wheee
[06:06] <andreas_> i got warthy, how do i get hoary in a easy way?
[06:06] <crimsun> andreas_: you wait until April :-)
[06:07] <andreas_> :(
[06:07] <Benjamin_L> ^^
[06:07] <noobuntu> exlt: YOU ARE A GENIUS!!!!!!!! *mwah* :D
[06:07] <noobuntu> it worked a treat... yay!!!!
[06:07] <exlt> nah, just an apache user...
[06:07] <exlt> :)
[06:07] <noobuntu> I hope one day I am good enought to be able to help others like you :)
[06:07] <andreas_> when i get rich, i gonne give 10% to one linux communityu ;)
[06:07] <kotau> makes it all worthwhile eh?
[06:08] <exlt> noobuntu: next person that asks about apache is all yours ;)
[06:08] <noobuntu> okay now my bf is chomping at the bait to get out of the house and do something other than all this linuxy stuff so I have to go... see you all soon!!!
[06:08] <reijo01> hi
[06:08] <andreas_> hi'
[06:09] <reijo01> I just installed ubuntu and am trying to get a wireless adaptor to work
[06:09] <reijo01> it's a dlink dwl-120
[06:09] <andreas_> how do i install xmms skins on my 64 bit, without dchroot
[06:09] <sikon> pci or usb?
[06:09] <reijo01> usb
[06:09] <reijo01> the device isn't be recognized i believe
[06:09] <linux_mafia>
[06:09] <kent> andreas_, well.. just download them from internet and put in ~/.xmms ?  There is a skind folder in the xmms folder.
[06:09] <Ensiferum> hmm. has anyone setup NIS on ubuntu client?
[06:10] <linux_mafia> any hebrew speakers here?
[06:10] <Ensiferum> i dont get the nis client up and running.
[06:10] <sikon> who could help with gnome icon theme setup?
[06:10] <ulx> hi people.. trying to get sound to work on ubuntu warty.. no luck so far.. i have a gigabyte 7vt600p-rz motherboard with a realtek alc655 codec integrated sound card.
[06:11] <linux_mafia> kent, its .xmms/skins i think
[06:12] <reijo01> to get a usb wireless adaptor to work, do I need to set up ndiswrapper?
[06:12] <grepper> is there a built in graphical way to disable shutdown from desktop logout screen for a user ?
[06:12] <reijo01> because  i was reading a howto on the site that makes it seem like it might work
[06:13] <grepper> the only thing I see is disabling it in the gdm login screen
[06:13] <grepper> and lockdown stuff in gconf doesn't have it
[06:13] <reijo01> however I can't find the ndiswrapper when I fire up the synaptic package manager
[06:13] <crimsun> grepper: yeah, I only know of editing /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[06:13] <arzajac> can someone help me with ipmasq?  It is going the wonrg way.  How can I change the default-if?
[06:14] <[Phaedrus] > if you see a device on the device manager, does it mean it is supported?
[06:14] <grepper> crimsun, ah. ok thanks
[06:14] <new-ubuntu> Hi all I have a quick question about trying to install Ubuntu for the first time, WinXP machine won't boot from CD even after setting BIOS and recording CD twice from two different sources... any ideas please? Thanks
[06:14] <grepper> hopefully this one is being thought about as far as usablility is concerned
[06:15] <new-ubuntu> ...liveCD worked fine though
[06:15] <linux_mafia> heh, #debian got a "thumbs down" in the arstechnica 2004 list
[06:16] <reijo01> hi, is dlink dwl-120 wireless adaptor going to work with ubuntu or do I need a different wireless device?
[06:17] <reijo01> its not on the hardware list on the ubuntu site
[06:17] <linux_mafia> new-ubuntu, how are you burning the iso? and have you tried the cds on another comp just to make sure they are ok?
[06:17] <sobralense> reijo01, what chipset is?
[06:17] <reijo01> hmm, not sure
[06:17] <reijo01> how do I find out sobralense?
[06:17] <[Phaedrus] > reijo01: what does it say?
[06:17] <maps73> Vaportrail, HY, HOE ARE YOU???
[06:17] <reijo01> it doesn't say anything
[06:17] <maps73> sorryyyy
[06:17] <new-ubuntu> thanks l-mafia, burning with nero start smart, haven't tried on another computer... no other computer right now
[06:18] <new-ubuntu> used same nero for livecd too and it worked is what I don't get
[06:18] <new-ubuntu> this time boots into xp after spinning the cd a little
[06:18] <crimsun> ulx: you need a newer version of ALSA. There are several approaches to tackling this issue.
[06:18] <airxdres> hello
[06:19] <sobralense> reijo01, did you already used linux with it?
[06:19] <grepper> crimsun, actually I couldn't see a way to do this on a per user basis in gdm.conf
[06:19] <linux_mafia> new-ubuntu, try using nero proper, not startsmart, and going selecting the "burn image" option, rather than using startsmart
[06:19] <ArCHoNKoG> why doesn't gdesklet work ?
[06:19] <ulx> crimsun: i had a look at the wike and changed somethings in modprobe aliases.. but no luck..
[06:19] <sobralense> reijo01, generally "lspci" show
[06:19] <new-ubuntu> any other way if we don't have the real nero?
[06:19] <ulx> crimsun: what do u suggest?
[06:20] <reijo01> sobralense no, I just got the adapator and installed ubuntu 4.10 fresh this morning
[06:20] <sobralense> reijo01, is it an usb adapter?!
[06:20] <linux_mafia> new-ubuntu, to have startsmart, you must have the real nero ;)
[06:20] <reijo01> yes it is usb
[06:20] <crimsun> grepper: I don't know of one, only system-wide
[06:20] <reijo01> i'll try the lspci command
[06:20] <ArCHoNKoG> why doesn't gdesklet working get a error about gtkhtml
[06:20] <new-ubuntu> linux_mafia, so it's another program probably on the computer, I use mac and helping a friend to de-xp
[06:20] <linux_mafia> new-ubuntu, its just called "nero burning rom" in the menu iirc
[06:21] <crimsun> ulx: using ALSA 1.0.7, which means you'll need the 'build-essential' and 'kernel-package' packages installed
[06:21] <new-ubuntu> linux_mafia, thanks I'll look. brb
[06:21] <crimsun> ulx: and you'll use the 'alsa-source' deb from Debian Sid
[06:22] <sobralense> ArCHoNKoG, try taking a look at www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:22] <grepper> crimsun ok, thanks - that option is available in system config->login screen setup as well
[06:22] <sobralense> ArCHoNKoG, go to "howto.." section and search for "gdesklets"
[06:22] <crimsun> grepper: oh, excellent.
[06:23] <Ed_Gein> where do I add  nvidia to have the module automagically loaded at boot?
[06:23] <new-ubuntu> linux_mafia: hi again, we have nero burning rom, please which settings do you recommend? we have boot-cd, and also iso image which looked same as what we did in start smart.
[06:23] <crimsun> Ed_Gein: you don't need to as long as you have the 'nvidia-kernel-common' package installed.
[06:23] <crimsun> Ed_Gein: dpkg -l nvidia-kernel-common|grep ^ii|awk -F' ' '{print $3}'
[06:24] <Ed_Gein> crimsun:I have to manually load the nvidia module everytime I reboot
[06:24] <crimsun> Ed_Gein: run that long dpkg command I just typed
[06:25] <Ed_Gein>  dpkg -l nvidia-kernel-common|grep ^ii|awk -F' ' '{print
[06:25] <Ed_Gein> >           $3}'
[06:25] <Ed_Gein> ii  nvidia-kernel- 1.0.6111+1ubun NVIDIA binary kernel module common files
[06:25] <Ed_Gein> john@Darksky:~ $
[06:25] <ArCHoNKoG> sobralense, it hoary
[06:25] <ArCHoNKoG> sobralense, the daemon loads but when i want weather i get an error
[06:25] <sobralense> ArCHoNKoG, =/
[06:26] <sobralense> wait
[06:26] <strixy> hello
[06:26] <linux_mafia> Ed_Gein, sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[06:26] <strixy> I'm trying to change localhost.localdomin to myhost.mydomain. I edited etc/hosts with no luck
[06:27] <Ed_Gein> linux_mafia :Error: your XFree86 configuration has been altered.
[06:27] <Ed_Gein> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[06:27] <Ed_Gein> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[06:27] <Ed_Gein> command:
[06:27] <Ed_Gein> sudo md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum
[06:27] <Ed_Gein> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 to change the Driver section
[06:27] <Ed_Gein> from nv to nvidia.
[06:27] <sobralense> ArCHoNKoG, read my post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3012&page=5&pp=10
[06:28] <sobralense> ArCHoNKoG, and then tells if works
[06:28] <linux_mafia> strixy, how are you checking? hostname -f ?
[06:29] <Ed_Gein> linux_mafia : I've manully changed nv to nvidia. But, at every reboot I have to manually load the nvidia module and then startx. Its not a huge problem .But I would rather not have to do so,
[06:29] <new-ubuntu> linux_mafia: if you get a second do you mind recommending burn settings for the iso, and if it's not that do you know any reason why it'd go right into xp are there settings we should change in xp like setting partitions before using the ubuntu iso or anything you can think of please thanks?
[06:30] <vafnord> xmms suddenly quit working
[06:30] <vafnord> Error: Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libindustrial.so",
[06:30] <crimsun> vafnord: reinstall 'gtk2-engines-industrial'
[06:30] <linuxjones> Ed_Gein, you can add nvidia to /etc/modules
[06:30] <linux_mafia> Ed_Gein, oh, edit /etc/modules, and put a line that says nvidia
[06:30] <strixy> linux_mafia: I was getting an error in my exim log file. "no host name found for IP address <IP_ADDRESS>"
[06:31] <strixy> I read up on etc/hosts and am about to try another configuration.
[06:31] <Ed_Gein> linux_mafia
[06:31] <linux_mafia> new-ubuntu, defaults should be ok
[06:31] <Ed_Gein> ;Very strange. Its already there
[06:32] <strixy> bbiab
[06:32] <new-ubuntu> linux_mafia, we'll try one more time thanks
[06:32] <linux_mafia> new-ubuntu, ok man
[06:32] <new-ubuntu> linux_mafia: If we do it right should it just bring up the ubuntu screens right away after booting from the CD?
[06:33] <linux_mafia> new-ubuntu, yep, but before that, get another known bootable cd, a windows one perhaps, and see if that will boot, then youll know if its the cd or the computer
[06:34] <vafnord> crimson: Done, but I get the same error.  Do I need to restart gnome?
[06:34] <ArCHoNKoG> sobralense, worked
[06:34] <crimsun> vafnord: you may need to log out and back in, yes.
[06:34] <new-ubuntu> linux_mafia, does the ubuntu livecd count, that works every time
[06:35] <raid> hey all, any1 here to help some newbie?
[06:35] <vafnord> crimsun: thanks
[06:36] <sobralense> ArCHoNKoG, =)
[06:36] <new-ubuntu> raid: what's the problem
[06:36] <sobralense> ArCHoNKoG, try search first on forums..
[06:36] <raid> new-ubuntu: havin some trouble with UDP/TCP port config for aMule usage...
[06:37] <new-ubuntu> raid: that's all through your router right?
[06:37] <new-ubuntu> raid: the configurations
[06:37] <vafnord> No change
[06:37] <raid> new-ubuntu: yup but i completely turned off firewall option and intrusion detection
[06:38] <new-ubuntu> raid: and all ports are already listed as forwarded?
[06:38] <Finity> hello everyone ;)
[06:38] <xvlun> hi
[06:38] <vafnord> Yo
[06:38] <raid> new-ubuntu: aint sure, guess so... but not sure... how can i check?
[06:38] <sobralense> I need a howto get those _ants_(yes, those insects) off my desk! =P
[06:38] <new-ubuntu> raid: I mean according to the listing of which ports are supposed to be
[06:39] <new-ubuntu> raid: gotta go, I don't know any more about it than that.
[06:39] <raid> new-ubuntu: k, thx anyway :D
[06:39] <new-ubuntu> linux_mafia: thanks we're trying the new recorded CD
[06:39] <linux_mafia> new-ubuntu, shit sorry, i forgot you mentioned that
[06:40] <linux_mafia> new-ubuntu, the live cd that is
[06:40] <new-ubuntu> linux_mafia: no prob, if it works we'l try linux and if not maybe we'll be back. seems like win is overriding the cd booting, though it could have just been poorly recorded both times...?
[06:41] <Finity> wo is Egl?
[06:41] <raid> any 1 here care to help me out a bit? havin trouble with amule
[06:42] <new-ubuntu> linux_mafia: thanks, bye
[06:42] <scizzo> raid: maybe someone could help you if they knew what the problem is
[06:42] <scizzo> raid: just ask...don't ask to ask
[06:43] <HostingGeek> no ask to ask
[06:43] <Finity> lol
[06:44] <raid> connected through router, when i connect to amule i get lowID cause my TCP/UDP ports seem to be blocked... but i already shut down all firewall/blocking options of my router...
[06:44] <raid> dont know what else to do cause i'm still noobish on linux and internet protocol...
[06:44] <poof> I am looking for Mplayer in synaptic, and cant find the install packages... is it called something else in ubuntu?
[06:45] <HostingGeek> raid: no the internet and linux are noowish to you
[06:47] <Cred> Hey, where could I get gimp-devel package? Doesn't seem to be in Hoary repo
[06:47] <Ribs> poof, remember to add the universe repository to synaptic
[06:47] <raid> Hostingeek: riiight T_T any helpful hint? what really annoys me is that i already used amule wit mandrake, same router...and just went cool
[06:47] <randabis-wireles> yay finally fixed my sound problem
[06:47] <raid> so it must be some ubuntu config, any1?
[06:47] <poof> I have both universe cheched
[06:47] <Ensiferum> can anyone clarify wtf +:::::: does in /etc/passwd file? :|
[06:47] <poof> checked
[06:48] <Cred> uh oh, libgimp
[06:48] <P2f> raid, it's not ubuntu thats something wrong with, it's amule it stinks
[06:48] <raid> any alternative option?
[06:49] <P2f> sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.4-python bittorrent
[06:49] <poof> Bump, wonder if I can use a .DEB and get Mplayer
[06:50] <Prower> poof: mplayer is in Christian Marillat's set of packages, there's a page on the Ubuntu site about how to add those to your sources
[06:50] <P2f> raid, http://www.shareaza.com/
[06:50] <zicho> hall hall
[06:50] <zicho> hello hello
[06:50] <poof> Cool thanks
[06:50] <linux_mafia> raid, i always get low ids, ports are open, so dunno, donkey network sux anyway
[06:50] <raid> p2f: great thx man, one more thing.... how da hell can i recover download files wit torrent?
[06:51] <linux_mafia> raid, you have java working?