[20:33] <N1c> Installing Gutsy almost finished
[20:33] <LjL> danonura, if that thing comes with a procedure to remove it cleanly... of course, proper packages that come from the repositories are *guaranteed* to come with one. i don't know about that one, though, since it doesn't.
[20:33] <tgpraveen> well I need to connect it using usb cable and if the kde app is stable in gnome I don't mind
[20:33] <tgpraveen> so
[20:33] <N1c> anyone , know from where i could Hardy pkgs?!
[20:33] <benanzo> The reason is I'd like to get a EeePC for my girlfriend but I'd like it to run Ubuntu but still be easy to use on the small screen
[20:33] <tgpraveen> what are your suggestions
[20:33] <PriceChild> !hardy | N1c
[20:33] <ubotu> N1c: hardy is Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE PRE BETA (ALPHA) SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[20:33] <danonura> LjL:ok thanks
[20:33] <mhall> can someone help me with ndiswrapper
[20:33] <N1c> PriceChild , i allready knew , but from where i could take the .debs?
[20:34] <bastid_raZor> tgpraveen; usb.. well that i'm not sure.
[20:34] <benanzo> I'd like to utilize the virtual workspaces for different tasks like internet, email etc
[20:34] <N1c> i need only mesa 7.0.2
[20:34] <LjL> tgpraveen: connect it to do *what*? if you just want to read/write to an SD card in the phone, you don't need anything. if you want contacts, you do. if you want to use bluetooth, for some things you don't.
[20:34] <LjL> etc
[20:34] <PriceChild> N1c, read the bot's message
[20:34] <Localgod11> jerro try the linux rescue cd
[20:34] <N1c> I allready did
[20:34] <eugman|work> Is it possible to have multiple people ssh into the same account at the same time?
[20:34] <tgpraveen> well I want to install symbian apps on my cell
[20:34] <LjL> N1c: then why are you still asking here?
[20:34] <bastid_raZor> eugman|work; yes
[20:34] <benanzo> eugman|work: yes
[20:34] <tgpraveen> *.sis packages
[20:34] <tgpraveen> so
[20:34] <johnathon> PriceChild what is the linux rescue cd?
[20:34] <N1c> Well , i am going to get Hard debs into GUTSY
[20:35] <LjL> tgpraveen: if you have a flash card in the phone, you just need to connect it. no software needed.
[20:35] <eugman|work> bastid_raZor, benanzo : awesome thanks
[20:35] <N1c> if i still rember i get 18  months support for it :P
[20:35] <LjL> which is why i was asking in the first place, of course.
[20:35] <N1c> and now i am using 1 hour of that 18 months
[20:35] <PriceChild> jonathaN, no idea.
[20:35] <PriceChild> N1c, don't do that.
[20:35] <LjL> N1c, installing Hardy packages into Gutsy is not recommended or supported. and, please, do consider reading the !enter message from Ubotu.
[20:35] <N1c> Using one hour of my 18 months support isn't allowed?
[20:36] <Localgod11> N1c - you dont get the support untill the os is released
[20:36] <johnathon> sry i meant the god dude sry
[20:36] <N1c> LjL , i want to break my ubuntu
[20:36] <N1c> LocalGod11 , Don't worry i  am still using Gutsy ;-)
[20:36] <LjL> N1c: then do, but don't see our help
[20:36] <tgpraveen> I know about the sd card. but I want to install *.sis apps on my symbian cell
[20:36] <N1c> LjL i wasn't seeking for help since i got my first ubuntu 5.xx somethings
[20:36] <Localgod11> johnathan: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sysresccd.org%2F&ei=0PaYR4XuOp78zASOnqnzCw&usg=AFQjCNHLezgCI1IM3RH_amPHKhYtEeiaEQ&sig2=-oZfkm5D6UpnceM7RKsL1Q
[20:37] <pewpewpew> Mozilla Firefox doesn't really accept addons installed by synaptic. Meaning: It doesn't show up under "Addons" in Firefox. Any help there?
[20:37] <LjL> tgpraveen: eeerr... i'm telling you that *if* you have an SD card, then you *can* install *.SIS apps* on your phone without *any additional software*.
[20:37] <N1c> or it 4 :S , can't remeber what it was but it was the first version of ubuntu
[20:37] <pewpewpew> I've just tried to install the gnash mozilla plugin
[20:37] <tgpraveen> how do I do that .sis files don't open in ubuntu I don't get a install on my phone option which I
[20:37] <tgpraveen> get in windows
[20:37] <abuyazan> how can i control the font size when i type the user name and pass on login window
[20:38] <Raistlin> ah i just confirmed it - virtualbox does not support graphic acceleration, therefore you can't use compiz in ubuntu
[20:38] <Raistlin> or play any games
[20:38] <N1c> tgraveeen you could get Symbian Devs
[20:38] <tgpraveen> as I have nokia pc suite installed
[20:38] <kdub432> if i want to grep through a file, but want it to spit out the line it finds and a few lines above the found line, how do i do that?
[20:38] <abuyazan> the size is too big more than 100px
[20:38] <N1c> sis unpacker is included with it
[20:38] <vancomycin> does the new gibbons remove that keyring manager for when connecting to online wireless networks?
[20:38] <PlayBoy> Hi
[20:38] <LjL> tgpraveen: you copy them from your Ubuntu computer to your phone's SD card (just plug in your phone's USB cable, select "Data mode" on the phone, and wait for a Nautilus window to appear). then, on your phone, you go into the file manager and select the .SIS file. the phone will install it.
[20:39] <PlayBoy> I'm problem with Cedega 5.2 (Diablo II)
[20:39] <vancomycin> i had a big problem with that in the past, but then deleted the default keyring file from the /.gnome2 dir
[20:39] <LjL> N1c: how would unpacking the .SIS help?
[20:39] <bastid_raZor> PlayBoy; #winehq would probably be a more helpful channel
[20:39] <N1c> I don't rember , but there was a pkg for linux , search in google for Symbian under linux and OSX
[20:40] <N1c> its would be the first one , if i am not wrong
[20:40] <PlayBoy> I'm problem 3D aceleration
[20:40] <jason__> have any of you guys had your commputer fucked up by an electrical surge?
[20:40] <PlayBoy> My graphic cards is ATI Radeon 7000 PC Family
[20:40] <benanzo> If I want to get a EeePC I see many suggestions to turn off all system logging or log to an SD card, not the SSD disk -- how do I disable all logging?
[20:40] <LjL> !language | jason__
[20:40] <ubotu> jason__: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:40] <PlayBoy> 3D Aceleration is not detect
[20:40] <crwlr> anybody here have nvidia and is successful at setting up twinview?
[20:40] <jason__> sorry
[20:40] <LjL> !ot > jason__    (jason__, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:41] <jason__> have any of you guys
[20:41] <jason__> had your computer fried
[20:41] <jason__> by an electrical surge
[20:41] <jason__> or any problems
[20:41] <kdub432> nope
[20:41] <LjL> jason__: did you read the !ot message from ubotu?
[20:41] <LjL> !enter > jason__    (jason__, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:41] <Raistlin> so again i have a question about installing ubuntu 7.10 - would anyone care to pm me?
[20:41] <tosate> Hi! Whenever I try to login to a Gnome Session, the XServer crashes
[20:41] <tosate> Gnome Failsave works fine
[20:41] <LjL> Raistlin: why don't you just ask?
[20:42] <wIRC9> sup
[20:42] <Raistlin> too much of a mess out here hah
[20:42] <tosate> does anyone know, what to do?
[20:42] <wIRC9> man it's been awhile on mirc
[20:43] <bastid_raZor> tosate; possibly run  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

[20:43] <wIRC9> factoid
[20:43] <LjL> !bot > wIRC9    (wIRC9, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:43] <makers_mark> i installed the latest nvidia driver for my geforce 4 but it's giving me trouble.how can i revert to the previous restricted driver?
[20:43] <wIRC9> !<factoid>
[20:43] <tosate> bastid_raZor: let's give it a try ;-)
[20:43] <erikand> hi, I trashed my /etc/postgres folder
[20:43] <LjL> !botabuse > wIRC9    (wIRC9, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:44] <erikand> anyway I can install a fresh copy?
[20:44] <Raistlin> well i'll try to explain as quick as possible heh
 i already have vista installed, and i would like to install ubuntu 7.10 without effect the mr of vista
[20:44] <Raistlin> err MBR
[20:44] <amorphous> anyone good on the gusty audio problems? intel 82801FB onboard (laptop) audio. seem to be getting in over my head.
[20:44] <erikand> been trying to install postgres packages I thought could have it, but no luck yet
[20:44] <LjL> makers_mark: you shouldn't have installed stuff not from the repositories in the first place... good luck reverting, now. anyway, see if the driver comes with an uninstall script, if it does run it, and then « sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-glx » (or nvidia-glx-new, whichever you had installed)
[20:44] <madgerm> hi
[20:44] <Raistlin> i have a second hdd i plan to install ubuntu 7.10 on
[20:45] <lgc> Hi. How can I restart the whole sound system?
[20:45] <makers_mark> thanks LjL
[20:45] <phoenixLOL> wooooooooow http://downloads.khinsider.com/?u=120420
[20:46] <steveire> Anyone used open street map here? I tried to edit it and it said I need flash installed. I already have it installed though.
[20:46] <d0gmaz> hello, i need to do manual partitioning on installation because i want to keep 1 partition from the disk, i have 100GB for ubuntu system files how big should i make / ?
[20:46] <DRebellion> !ot | phaero
[20:46] <ubotu> phaero: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:46] <LjL> Raistlin, i don't really remember which options the installer gives you about the boot loader... however, if you use the Alternate CD, i'm pretty sure you can select where to install it (or to not install it at all). with the normal CD, i'm really not sure
[20:46] <DRebellion> phoenixz: ^^
[20:46] <DRebellion> phaero: sorry :/
[20:46] <LjL> erg
[20:46] <phaero> DRebellion: np
[20:46] <neverblue> d0gmaz, 30GB is generous
[20:47] <Raistlin> LjL: i was reading that there is an advanced option to choose where grub is installed - my problem is i'm not sure what option to choose, like hd0 or hd0,1 etc
[20:47] <bastid_raZor> d0gmaz; i have mine at 10GB but i wish i had made it 15GB
[20:47] <Raistlin> LjL: because i'm using a second hdd and i'm not sure if it's the master or slave
[20:47] <d0gmaz> neverblue, 30gb for / and do i need other mountpoints also like swap and how big should it be?
[20:47] <neverblue> d0gmaz, SWAP == RAM size
[20:48] <LjL> Raistlin, check in your BIOS. it generally lists the four possible HD you can have connected in order Primary/Master, Primary/Slave, Secondary/Master, Secondary/Slave.
[20:48] <neverblue> d0gmaz, then I usually use the rest for /home
[20:48] <jason__> hi, my update manager doesnt work.. any idea why?
[20:48] <neverblue> jason, errors ?
[20:48] <Raistlin> LjL: so then once i figure out if it's a master or slave, let's say hypotheically it's a slave, then would that be hd0,2 ?
[20:49] <jason__> well i click on update manager
[20:49] <jason__> and the window just freezes
[20:49] <neverblue> jason, sudo aptitude update (from command line), see if that works
[20:49] <LjL> neverblue, d0gmaz: swap same size as RAM is ok in theory, but you should be careful in case your partitioning programs counts with decimal powers while the RAM size is expressed in binary powers. make it 1.2 times the RAM, to be sure.
[20:49] <jason__> okay
[20:49] <Raistlin> LJL: actually i think hd0,2 would be a second partition on the first hdd, so maybe hd2 then?
[20:50] <neverblue> LjL, well, with sufficient amount of RAM, does that really matter, I have 3GB myself
[20:50] <d0gmaz> neverblue, should i make / ext3 or reiserfs?
[20:50] <LjL> Raistlin, no. yes, as you said just now. hd0 would be primary master, hdX would be the others (if you have only two, yes, it should be hd2 as far as i know)
[20:50] <LjL> neverblue: yes, it may matter, because you may not be able to use hibernation if your swap is less than your RAM
[20:50] <neverblue> d0gmaz, i attempted reiserfs once, then I went back to ext3, as the lack of support, things may have changed
[20:50] <lgc> !sound
[20:50] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[20:50] <neverblue> LjL, ah, good point
[20:50] <Raistlin> LjL: oooohh so if i have multiple hdd's then hdx would be fine to use as long as vista is the master?
[20:51] <jason__> ohh never mind.. i think everything was updated.. thats why it just showed a blank box
[20:51] <jason__> its just that i dont remember having any updates for quite a while
[20:51] <makers_mark> LjL
[20:51] <steveire> Anyone used open street map here? I tried to edit it and it said I need flash installed. I already have it installed though.
[20:51] <asuggs> :q
[20:52] <FuTz> hello..
[20:52] <makers_mark> LjL actually i re-installed the driver and restarted gdm resulting in the driver working fine.after restart,it won't work though.
[20:52] <FuTz> i have installation problems..
[20:52] <LjL> Raistlin: well that depends on what's on the other HD's :) but if you care about none of them, yeah... but also, you do know that in any case, the Ubuntu boot loader *will* boot your Windows system too, right?
[20:52] <FuTz> when trying to install ubuntu..
[20:52] <Flare183> FuTz: explain
[20:52] <FuTz> sometimes it freezes when insert cd, and when the status bar is loading, it freezes there
[20:52] <^Xalastras^> try with another cd xD
[20:52] <FuTz> and sometimes when installation starts
[20:52] <LjL> makers_mark: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure --phigh xserver-xorg
[20:53] <Flare183> FuTz: sounds like memory try xubuntu
[20:53] <FuTz> about 50% of completed install
[20:53] <Cpudan80> How do you restart X from the command line?
[20:53] <Cpudan80> I dont have access to the keyboard
[20:53] <Raistlin> LjL: not in my passed 10 installs haha - it never sees vista during the install
[20:53] <Cpudan80> Im in via SSH
[20:53] <LjL> Raistlin: i think you should file a bug about that
[20:53] <FuTz> Flare183, memory?
[20:53] <d0gmaz> neverblue, i made / 30gb /home 80gb and swap 4gb do i need to make /boot or something? long time ago i used linux :)
[20:53] <krna> L 99 99 99....please help me :(
[20:53] <Flare183> Cpudan80: sudo /etc/init.d/ (something)
[20:53] <FuTz> shouild i test it with memtest?
[20:53] <LjL> Cpudan80: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[20:53] <Cpudan80> LjL thanks
[20:54] <Raistlin> LjL: i found a few already filed, which is why i'm going this route
[20:54] <Flare183> FuTz: yeap not enought memory (maybe)
[20:54] <Flare183> FuTz: memtest just tests the memory for errors/bad memory issues
[20:54] <Raistlin> LJL: i just want to safely install ubuntu without effecting vista's special boot loader o.o
[20:55] <Raistlin> LJL: also if you could ya know, throw in some ways to get my x-fi sound card working in it that'd be great too haha
[20:55] <krna> hello everyone can anyone help me with the l 99 99 99 error,what can I do?
[20:55] <FuTz> Flare183, i don't think it's a memory..
[20:55] <FuTz> it's a amd atlhlon xp 1800+ and 768 MB of ram
[20:55] <FuTz> i toth you think that memory is crashed..
[20:55] <Flare183> FuTz: well try it will the alternative (I have the same processor)
[20:56] <FuTz> i tried
[20:56] <Flare183> alternative cd
[20:56] <FuTz> and same :S
[20:56] <Flare183> weird
[20:56] <neverblue> d0gmaz, i have never partitioned /boot myself
[20:56] <Flare183> FuTz: beats me then
[20:56] <neverblue> d0gmaz, so I cannot recomment a size for it
[20:56] <FuTz> Flare183, i have passive cooler on AGP
[20:56] <FuTz> and it's verry hot
[20:56] <d0gmaz> so i dont need any more mountpoints than /  ?
[20:56] <FuTz> can that be problem?
[20:56] <d0gmaz> no /boot no nothing?
[20:56] <FuTz> it's a nvidia gpu, mx220
[20:57] <FuTz> originally passive cooled
[20:57] <Cpudan80> Is there an easy way to dump the contents of the CD drive to an ISO?
[20:57] <Cpudan80> Or do I need some util to do that?
[20:57] <Flare183> FuTz: maybe i don't know much about the inside of the computer
[20:57] <DreadSpoon> dd
[20:57] <krna> people please help me out
[20:57] <DreadSpoon> dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso
[20:57] <Byan> I should learn how to use dd
[20:57] <LjL> Raistlin: don't think i know much about soundcards, i can give you a generic link about troubleshooting sound issues
[20:57] <LjL> !sound > Raistlin    (Raistlin, see the private message from Ubotu)
[20:57] <Cpudan80> DreadSpoon: Do I need to do that as root?
[20:58] <mon^rch> hello all
[20:58] <DreadSpoon> not usually
[20:58] <neverblue> d0gmaz, well, you did mention a partion for /home
[20:58] <mon^rch> what's the command to show how much memory I have? I am testing parts for a client
[20:58] <DreadSpoon> free -m
[20:58] <d0gmaz> yea i have the home dir
[20:58] <LjL> mon^rch: "free" will work
[20:58] <georgy_28> mon^rch, : free -m
[20:58] <mon^rch> tyvm
[20:59] <Gate_Laptop> help! I apt-get installed ubuntustudio-desktop, unfortunately I am using an encrypted lvm and I the system won't boot properly, the ubuntustudio splash never prompts me for the cryptkey. I can boot the system through recoverymode -> /etc/init.d/rc 2.   Will apt-get install ubuntu-desktop fix it, or is this going to take more than that?
[20:59] <neverblue> d0gmaz, your losing me, whats your question then ?
[20:59] <Raistlin> LjL: ah it's okay, it's Creatives fault - they don't support linux very well, they released an un-compiled 64-bit drive a while back but it's horrible and hard to compile
[20:59] <Raistlin> LjL: i was just kinda being funny ;)
[21:00] <N1c> the guys over #Ubuntu+1 sends me back 2 here
[21:00] <N1c> =-)
[21:00] <mon^rch> um, so... mem: 3551 =3.5gig memory?
[21:00] <jorje_villafan> I recently installed Ubuntu and occasionally when I drag A window or click on something I get lines that come down from the top corner of my screen. Sometimes I get solid boxes instead of lines.  Anyone know of any possible causes or fixes'
[21:00] <N1c> Where i could find .debs in ubuntu cd?
[21:00] <N1c> or site to get ubuntu .DEBS!
[21:00] <LjL> N1c: http://packages.ubuntu.com
[21:00] <georgy_28> mon^rch, : -m show in MB
[21:00] <N1c> Finaly i would get my hardy debs from their!
[21:01]  * N1c kisses LjL on HER LIBS!
[21:01] <LjL> N1c: DON'T come complaining to us if everything breaks - mind
[21:01] <arjuna> which is better slackware or zenwalk?
[21:01] <N1c> lips*
[21:01] <LjL> i'm male
[21:01] <Cpudan80> DreadSpoon: How long should this take (regular CD, C2DUo 64 bit 2GBs RAM) ?
[21:01] <N1c> LjL , Gutsy broked every things startting by doing any t
[21:01] <bastid_raZor> LjL; not in N1c's world
[21:01] <d0gmaz> what partitions makes ubuntu if you do auto partitioning?
[21:01] <N1c> waaah male!
[21:01] <mon^rch> thanks again georgy_28
[21:01] <LjL> arjuna: which is more relevant, your question or whether or not elephants riding bicycles is a good thing?
[21:01] <amorphous> could anybody help me with sound issues? - i have none on fresh gutsy install... have done everything
[21:01] <DreadSpoon> Cpudan80: dunno, it can vary, few minutes maybe though
[21:01]  * N1c rekisses LjL
[21:01] <LjL> !ot > arjuna    (arjuna, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:01] <neverblue> amorphous, does the hardward all work ?
[21:01] <Cpudan80> DreadSpoon: But not like an hour or something, right?
[21:01] <amorphous> ...suggeted in the forums
[21:01] <sahil> i have flash installed-through ubuntu-restricted and yet when i go to sites it doesn't work trying to install it again does nothing-any ideas?
[21:02] <LjL> N1c, this is a support channel you know
[21:02] <amorphous> neverblue, yes - was fine under feisty
[21:02] <DreadSpoon> Cpudan80: no
[21:02] <LjL> !flash > sahil    (sahil, see the private message from Ubotu) it's broken
[21:02] <Cpudan80> DreadSpoon: Have you had good success with this procedure?
[21:02] <N1c> Oh , Why you didn't tell me you dont like to be kissed on public ;-)
[21:02] <amorphous> neverblue, have some output if you'd like to see it... hang on...
[21:02] <neverblue> amorphous, what application are you using to listen with, what hardware are you listening on, did you try 'alsamixer' ?
[21:02] <LjL> N1c, seriously, been offtopic enough
[21:03] <DreadSpoon> Cpudan80: yes, numerous times, it's the correct way to do it
[21:03] <amorphous> never blue... yes - i only get system sounds - have treid mplayer, totem, no startup sounds etc...
[21:03] <amorphous> am running gutsy on alsa.. intel hda
[21:03] <neverblue> amorphous, did you look at 'alsamixer' to adjust your audio ?
[21:03] <N1c> LjL i still dont see any serous problem here , thats why i am out of topic *a little bit*
[21:03] <DreadSpoon> Cpudan80: you can do a loopback mount to test the iso when it's done; I don't recall the full command off the top of my head for that, google will find it for you easily though
[21:03] <iskin> Is there a better way to improve fonts when running w/ glx? I've installed the msttfcore, done lcd font smoothing and fonts still don't look as nice when I'm not running glx. i'm using 7.10.
[21:03] <amorphous> neverblue, yes - no mutes....
[21:04] <PriceChild> !guidelines > N1c (please read the message from ubotu and debate things in #ubuntu-ops if you want. Not here)
[21:04] <krna> how can u resolve L99 99 99 99 99 99 error??
[21:04] <N1c> iskin change your monitor
[21:04] <neverblue> amorphous, lets see your lspci listing on pastebin
[21:04] <k3zo> I need to tidy up the boot sequence (including apps that startup) how do I do this???
[21:04] <amorphous> and i can't see anything with snd, sound, audio etc in dmesg
[21:04] <neverblue> !pastebin | amorphous
[21:04] <ubotu> amorphous: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[21:04] <N1c> PriceChild , He need to ask for pm as i am blocking everyones PM
[21:04] <N1c> *not in good mood to get spamed*
[21:04] <PriceChild> !guidelines | N1c
[21:04] <ubotu> N1c: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[21:04] <Cpudan80> DreadSpoon: I'll transfer it to my local box and mount it to be sure
[21:05] <mhr> k3zo: what do you mean?
[21:05] <Cpudan80> DreadSpoon: But I mean, it does a bit for bit copy, so Im not worried
[21:05] <DreadSpoon> Cpudan80: right
[21:05] <N1c> Ok , i don't have firefox as i  am not in X-
[21:05] <ianloic_> .mozilla.org
[21:05] <LjL> krna: ... by using GRUB and not LILO? :)
[21:05] <amorphous> neverblue, was sort of prepared for that... here's some data. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53380/
[21:05] <truslack> seems a bit crowded in here, but could anyone give me a hand routing an internet connection?
[21:06] <amorphous> but am a bit in over my head, neverblue
[21:06] <k3zo> mhr: when the system boots after logging in the orange colour is seen inbetween the gdm's black bg and the desktops black bg +++....
[21:06] <neverblue> amorphous, are the speakers muted :D
[21:06] <amorphous> neverblue,  and have done pretty much all of this.
[21:06] <havfunonline> anyone know a lot about wireless networking? Cause My computer has detected my wireless USB adapter, I've entered the network details, I have the drivers, it should work fine but I have no signal apparentlt (also bull, im right next to the router)
[21:06] <iskin> N1c: I doubt it is my monitor. My monitor is really nice. The problem is that some letters are thicker than others.
[21:07] <k3zo> mhr: awn/gnome-do/fusion-icon all load but it looks messy wathcing them struggle to load is there any way to have this done in the bg and then appear completed once done
[21:07] <Drew_[SCED]> I am having trouble installing flash into firefox.  I run 7.10 32-bit, but I have a 64-bit processor.  I read the wiki and it says that Adobe doesn't maintain a 64-bit version, but I thought that it would work since my OS is 32-bit.  I also tried Gnash and that did not work.  What should I do?
[21:07] <N1c> Change the font (check BOLD STUFF)
[21:07] <BetaTest> When I try to do a system update, I get an error saying:Software index is broken
[21:07] <BetaTest> It is impossible to install or remove any software. Please use the package manager "Synaptic" or run "sudo apt-get install -f" in a terminal to fix this issue at first.
[21:07] <amorphous> never... not that i can see... all open in alsamixer, on panel at top (gnome) and up high in apps
[21:07] <k3zo> mhr: can i add them to load duuring an earlier stage in the boot seq
[21:07] <LjL> !flash64 > Drew_[SCED]    (Drew_[SCED], see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:07] <N1c> Drew_i am using adobe reader on my _^$
[21:07] <neverblue> amorphous, so your telling me your sound systems do in fact work ?
[21:07] <N1c> Drew_i am using adobe reader on my _64
[21:07] <Drew_[SCED]> !flash64
[21:07] <ubotu> You can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[21:07] <N1c> just do dpkg --install-force-all
[21:07] <amorphous> yes - in feisty... but only system beeps in gutsy
[21:08] <amorphous> neverblue, ^^^]
[21:08] <BetaTest> Needless to say, synaptic doesn't work, and when I open it it says, "You have 1 broken package on your system! Use the "Broken" filter to locate it."
[21:08] <LjL> Drew_[SCED], you had that message (and another one, read it, it's important) already in your private messages windows from Ubotu.
[21:08] <mhr> k3zo: sorry, don't know anything about that ..
[21:08] <krna> LjL:thank u,n how do I do that?
[21:08] <neverblue> amorphous, sorry, your in gutsy ? and you get system sounds (not sure why your bringing up feisty) ?
[21:08] <LjL> krna, i have no idea why you have LILO installed in the first place... Ubuntu's default is GRUB
[21:09] <k3zo> mhr: np, seems not many do ;)
[21:09] <Goosemoose>  hi guys, has the addon for hardy been finished to enable the simple authentication against an AD domain?
[21:09] <LjL> BetaTest: type « sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console and pastebin the output
[21:09] <amorphous> neverblue, sorry - bringing up feisty because you asked if hardware was ok - i ran feisty before.
[21:09] <amorphous> hardware ok...
[21:09] <neverblue> amorphous, can you please respond to my quesiton
[21:10] <krna> LjL:I didnt do it,it installed by itself can I change it now?
[21:10] <neverblue> keeps u busy LjL :D
[21:10] <LjL> krna: most likely, but if you can't even boot the system, i'm not very sure as to how.
[21:11] <N1c> LjL , I suggest every one asking about kernel,booting issues , or chaning his background into ubuntu defualt one ASK HIM/HER To reinstall Ubuntu =-)
[21:11] <BetaTest> LjL but I would still like to be able to use the Synaptic manager, and there must be a fix for that
[21:11] <N1c> thats will safe your time
[21:11] <N1c> save*
[21:11] <N1c> ewww OP?!
[21:11] <amorphous> neverblue, think i have - speakers not muted, hardware's good, yes gutsy - feisty was for proof of working hardware... pastebin... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53380/ and i have done most of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller, neverblue
[21:11] <neverblue> !enter | N1c
[21:12] <havfunonline> anyone know a lot about wireless networking? Cause My computer has detected my wireless USB adapter, I've entered the network details, I have the drivers, it should work fine but I have no signal apparentlt (also bull, im right next to the router)
[21:12] <bcardarella> I've just installed 7.10 on a new laptop. My headphones are not working. Yes, the volume is turned up and I know that the headphones work. The integrated speakers work but when I plug in the headphones the speakers turn off (as they should) and no sound comes out of the headphones.  Any ideas?
[21:12] <krna> LjL:I have a live cd,so can I do something?
[21:12] <ubotu> N1c: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:12] <neverblue> amorphous, fine, ill ask one last time, as I dont see a response, does your system sounds work ?
[21:12] <fredrik__> bcardarella: is the volume turned up even when the headphones are in?
[21:12] <fredrik__> maybe it remembers for each
[21:13] <fredrik__> I haven't tried that btw, so don't really know anything about it
[21:13] <bcardarella> fredrik_: yes... although I don't have a headphone meter in the volume control panel. When I go to 'preferences' and click 'headphone' it adds a new tab with a 'switched' checkbox that is checked
[21:13] <PriceChild> N1c, can we pm please?
[21:13] <amorphous> neverblue, sorry - i'm missunderstanding. i get a beep when i try to autocomplete... i'm presuming they're system sounds
[21:13] <branstrom> bcardarella: ah...
[21:13] <LjL> krna: you can install GRUB from the live CD, in theory, but uhm... the command is "grub-install", but you'd also have to create the necessary config files, likely
[21:14] <Cpudan80> Random question, anyone here use DD-WRT ?
[21:14] <N1c> PriceChild , When i register my nick :P
[21:14] <amorphous> neverblue, many apologies... think i'm frying the old grey matter
[21:14] <bcardarella> I'm not certain what the "Switches" tab means though
[21:14] <N1c> but we could join private channel and talk their
[21:14] <neverblue> amorphous, system sounds, then possibly your programs as not setup to use ALSA, give one example of a program your trying to listen in on the audio with, i use xmms to test it
[21:14] <truslack> Could anyone give me a hand with networking? (Routing XP internet connection to 6.10)
[21:15] <neverblue> amorphous, then I configure xmms to use ALSA, and point it to the correct device, which I get from lspci
[21:15] <truslack> *6.06
[21:15] <Drew_[SCED]> I tried installing the 32-bit Firefox plugin but it did not work.
[21:15] <amorphous> neverblue, ok - i'll try xmms... ...
[21:15] <bcardarella> Maybe I'll just post in the forums
[21:16] <krna> LjL:oh okay,so shall I try reinstalling n then see if it works?
[21:16] <neverblue> amorphous, look in the options, and base the device on your lspci output
[21:16] <LjL> krna: or if you had the alternate CD... or the minimal CD... you could use them, i suppose. i think they let you skip many other steps and just go to the part where the bootloader is setup.
[21:17] <LjL> krna: mind you, there *is* a way to do it without reinstalling, i'm just far away from knowing the details.
[21:17] <Drew_[SCED]> LjL: The links you gave me did not help.  I followed the instructions there and it did not work for me.
[21:17] <LjL> Drew_[SCED], did you adapt the instructions to the fact that the Flash package is currently broken?
[21:17] <BetaTest> When I try to copy a font into the /usr/share/fonts/truetype directory, it tells me, "you do not have permissions to write to this folder." How do I bypass that?
[21:18] <LjL> !sudo > BetaTest    (BetaTest, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:18] <KaiForce> holy mother of the supreme being, installing from the live cd onto a travelmate 2300 with 256MB is slower than continental drift
[21:18] <LjL> !fonts > BetaTest    (BetaTest, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:18] <truslack> @BetaTest use sudo
[21:18] <BetaTest> But that's using the command line
[21:18] <BetaTest> I mean I'm just trying to click and drag it there
[21:18] <Jack_Sparrow> gksudo nautilus
[21:18] <LjL> !gksudo > BetaTest    (BetaTest, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:19] <Drew_[SCED]> LjL: No, I think that I did not.  I will come back with info later.
[21:19] <amorphous> neverblue, i'm on it - thanks :)
[21:20] <truslack> ok, anyone know about routing internet from XP to Ubuntu?
[21:20] <LjL> Drew_[SCED], you *should* keep in mind that sort of stuff is generally harder to do on 64-bit, and that most people with 64-bit processors actually just use the 32-bit version of Ubuntu. what's more, with Flash being currently broken, it becomes even more of a nuisance. i suppose however than the "patch" available on the forums link Ubotu gave you might be used as a plug-in package for the 64-bit instructions, though.
[21:20] <quaal> is there a way to rm everything in a directory that contains a certain string
[21:21] <Dr_willis> truslack,  the 'ip-masquerading howto' used to be the defacto guide on that. But there may be easier guy tools to get it going now a days.
[21:21] <LDS_Trooper> Greets
[21:21] <LjL> truslack, on the Ubuntu side it's just a matter of... well, nothing, Network Manager should configure it automatically. as for the Windows side, you should ask in ##windows (or google for "internet connection sharing")
[21:21] <LjL> quaal: that contains in the filename, or that contains in the file contents?
[21:21] <josiah> Help please. I had my external hard drive shared and everything was working great until I unplugged it and plugged it back in... Now im not seeing my linux box on my windows machine any longer. What do I do?
[21:21] <krna> LjL:thanks a lot man.I dont have an extra CD.I'll search somehwere..if nothing's available then I'll reinstall.thak u
[21:21] <krna> *thank u
[21:22] <LDS_Trooper> I am about to install a GFX card. What command will I need for Ubuntu when I re-start?
[21:22] <truslack> Yeah, I've got it set up and Ubuntu can ping the windows NIC, but the windows machine has 2 cards, one (wifi) getting the internet, then an ethernet going to the ubuntu machine
[21:22] <LjL> truslack: yes, you need to configure the Windows machine so that it will do NAT to the Ubuntu machine. that's what ICS accomplishes
[21:22] <quaal> LjL, in the filename.
[21:23] <LjL> quaal: recursively?
[21:23] <Dr_willis> truslack,  You want WINDOWS to share the net connection.. Theres the 'ICS' settings/tool for windows that does that. Then you set the linux box to use the windows pc as its gateway/dnsserver I belive
[21:23] <quaal> LjL, i'm in the directory
[21:23] <truslack> ICS is enabled, both cards are on the same subnet, but I can only ping one of the cards
[21:23] <quaal> i did rm *copy*
[21:23] <quaal> didnt work
[21:23] <LjL> quaal: it should
[21:23] <LjL> quaal: unless you want it to be done recursively
[21:23] <LDS_Trooper> brb
[21:24] <jetscreamer> quaal: more of a #bash question perhaps
[21:24] <jetscreamer> or #perl
[21:24] <Dr_willis> you can use find to remove specifically pattern files recursively
[21:24] <chris4> I am thinking about installing ubuntu onto a spare pc, I have installed ubuntu before on a really old system that just plain hated it(i've never seen a system not cooperate like that), but I'm willing to try again. I need to know a few things before I commit this system. First will Ubuntu be able to print to windows 98, and XP over the network, The printers are a FX80, a LQ850 (both epson), and an HP 832C. Also is it possible to share
[21:24] <LjL> quaal: so you have filenames that contain the string "copy" (in lowercase), and you need to remove them, and you don't care about subdirectories -- then "rm ./*copy*" is correct
[21:24] <josiah> in my /etc/samba/smb.conf file I have this added to the end: http://pastebin.ca/871274
[21:24] <LjL> jetscreamer: ...perl?
[21:25] <Dr_willis> chris4,  i print to windows shared printers allthe time.
[21:25] <LjL> chris4, Samba allows you to connect to Windows shares (printers included). that said, your message got cut after "possible to share"
[21:25] <chris4> ok then, that's good, but will it work with a 1986 printer?
[21:25] <Dr_willis> check cups.org for supported printers.. or the  following
[21:26] <Dr_willis> !hardware
[21:26] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[21:26] <jetscreamer> just a thought
[21:26] <chris4> the other question was about accessing network neighborhood
[21:26] <LjL> chris4, as long as the printer works in Windows, it ought to
[21:26] <amorphous> neverblue, ok - have tried oss driver - only one possible device (STAC92xx) - sigmatel mixer - switched to it - all vols ok.
[21:26] <Dr_willis> chris4,  - Linux can access windows 'shares' also. and you can have shares on linux, that are accessable by windows.
[21:27] <neverblue> amorphous, hmm, oss was it, and no ALSA listed ?
[21:27] <amorphous> neverblue, alsa driver - only one poss card - HDA - tried it - and alsamixer - no sound
[21:27] <amorphous> (sorry - typings getting better - honest ;)
[21:28] <chris4> dr_willis, how would I go about doing that
[21:28] <askand> What is the point of encrypted drives? :)
[21:28] <N1c> PriceChild , Would you mind talking with me (PM)?
[21:28] <Drew_[SCED]> LjL: That did not work as well.  I think Gnash is causing a conflict.  How do I uninstall Gnash?
[21:28] <amorphous> neverblue, so no sound with either - other drivers are discwriter  esound
[21:28] <cjj> firefox has become completely useless for me on ubuntu 7.10 on an hp laptop w 2gb ram. crashes anytime i hit a page w java and lately everytime i try to open a new window or tab.  any help in getting a stable browser would be much appreciated
[21:28] <josiah> Can someone please help me with a samba issue?
[21:29] <LjL> Drew_[SCED], sudo apt-get remove gnash
[21:29] <reaktae> i keep getting the following when i try to partition my external drive...
[21:29] <amorphous> ....and neither of them look useful
[21:29] <reaktae> anybody into the FILESYSTEM MANAGEMENT?!?
[21:29] <reaktae> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53381/
[21:29] <ompaul> !enter | reaktae
[21:29] <ubotu> reaktae: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[21:29] <reaktae> sorry
[21:30] <Dr_willis> chris4,  setting up shares is rather straight forward. Depends on what you want to do .
[21:30] <Dr_willis> !samba | chris4
[21:30] <ubotu> chris4: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.
[21:30] <neverblue> amorphous, check the forums for your similar hardware, maybe someone else has gone through this too
[21:30] <amorphous> neverblue, xmms looks to be playing tho.
[21:30] <neverblue> amorphous, but in OSS
[21:30] <ompaul> reaktae, use fdisk /dev/sda1 and use it -- it is very obvious how to use it to format the partition (or at least I think so) just use the help
[21:31] <amorphous> neverblue, they have - none f the results help... like i said - i've done pretty much all of this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller one at a time
[21:31] <N1c> Night everyone
[21:31] <neverblue> amorphous, thats about all i can help with, sorry and good luck
[21:31] <amorphous> ahh yeah - oss could be the magic word - i'l give it a go
[21:31]  * N1c kisses LjL :P
 There is a reason 2 operators took such an interest in you. (one of them = you)
[21:32] <chris4> drwillis: I will mainly be using network neighborood to copy videos and a few other misc files like savegames
[21:32] <amorphous> no worries, neverblue - thanks for the help - would appear to be a bug :(
[21:32] <amorphous> neverblue, and the time - appreciated :)
[21:33] <Niklas_E> is there any difference in 64bit and 32bit installation, for example in how fast the computer is? Which should I choose?
[21:33] <reaktae> ompaul: seems to work alright, thanks....
[21:34] <LjL> Niklas_E: the main difference is that 64bit will give you a lot more trouble with some proprietary programs.
[21:34] <Dr_willis> chris4,  the term 'network neigborhood' is just MS's nice term for what linux users call samba, :)   You can  share your users home directory or other data easially enough.
[21:34] <Drew_[SCED]> LjL: Thank you so very much!  It works with a few display errors, but it's liveable.  Will this work for all users or just for my account?
[21:34] <chazco> Anyone able to help with a USB keyboard issue - described fully at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4184280
[21:34] <nimsin> Niklas_E: I'd go for the 32bit...
[21:34] <reaktae> what filesystem should i use for an external drive that needs to be read and written to in UBUNTU and MAC OS?!
[21:34] <Niklas_E> okey
[21:35] <LjL> Drew_[SCED]: should work for everyone i think
[21:35] <Dr_willis> chazco,  at least give a slight summery.
[21:35] <chazco> It sometimes works, it sometimes doesnt. Can be fixed by moving to a new port. Dmesg correctly spots it... :)
[21:35] <Alyxander> ok can someone explain to me why kubuntu 7.10 will let me dual monitor but ubuntu 7.10 proper will not?
[21:36] <Drew_[SCED]> LjL: Ha!  Thank you again.  My brother will be VERY happy to hear that this problem is finally fixed.  I hope my referral of you on the boards gives you some compensation for helping me!
[21:36] <Dr_willis> Alyxander,  what video card?  and whats proper? is it working at all? not at all?
[21:36] <LjL> Drew_[SCED], i help voluntarily
[21:36] <neverblue> Alyxander, you need to enable the restricted drivers in the 'restricted drivers manager', then hopefully its all setup
[21:36] <orion1> Hey i am trying to network install ubuntu and it says i need to instal lnetkit-inetd and it says to install that its just apt-get install but im not finding it
[21:36] <orion1> any ideas?
[21:36] <chazco> Also, does anyone know how to create an updated Gusty CD? Cant download all the updates on my home PC's, would be nice not to have to
[21:37] <neverblue> oh wait, sorry, duals, Alyxander disregard that last statement
[21:37] <Alyxander> neverblue, im testing them live and the graphics cards, yes two seprate pci are nvidia Dr_willis
[21:37] <Drew_[SCED]> Thanks all, have a nice day!
[21:37] <KaiForce> my laptop install seems stopped after I chose the language - but the CDROM is still flashing away like its busy - any idea why this is so slow???
[21:37] <Creed> Are there any benchmarking tools for Ubuntu?
[21:37] <Creed> Like PCMark
[21:37] <neverblue> Alyxander, how are you setting up the duals ? what did you use to setup duals in Kubuntu ?
[21:38] <Alyxander> kubuntus settings manager neverblue
[21:38] <Alyxander> and by proper i mean gnome 7.10
[21:38] <neverblue> Creed, apropos is a tool to search for a command your interested in, using a keyword, maybe give 'apropos' a try ?
[21:38] <chris4> one more thing, I need this pc to be able to play a couple of games: Metal Fatigue, and Starcraft. They have to work becaouse I use this PC for LAN games.
[21:38] <neverblue> Alyxander, there is no Gnome 7.10, your referring to Ubuntu
[21:38] <Alyxander> neverblue, yeah thats why i said ubuntu proper
[21:39] <neverblue> chris4, then take a look at wine... or askin #winehq
[21:39] <Alyxander> *popper
[21:39] <neverblue> Alyxander, what seems to be the problem ?
[21:39] <chris4> neverblue: ok i'll ask there
[21:40] <Alyxander> ok in ubuntu (propper) my dual monitor will not work. In kubuntu it works but when i enable the second monitor the resolution on my primary monitor go's to 800x600 while the secondary go's to 1024x768
[21:41] <chazco> Does anyone know how to create an updated Gusty CD? The ~200MB of updates every time cause problems :(
[21:41] <LDS_Trooper> back
[21:41] <LDS_Trooper> I am about to install a GFX card. What command will I need for Ubuntu when I re-start?
[21:41] <LDS_Trooper> For xorg I mean...
[21:41] <Flare183> chazco: grab an alternative cd and upgrade with that
[21:41] <Annirak> Anyone have a suggestion on how to find the IP of a box, given it's MAC?  It's physically connected to the local network.  It's online, it should have an open SSH port. I have no idea what its IP is, it may not even be on my subnet.  How do I go about finding it?
[21:41] <chazco> Is the alternative CD packaged with all the updates that have been released since Gusty was?
[21:42] <Flare183> yeap
[21:42] <ompaul> LDS_Trooper, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:42] <Cpudan80> How do you mount an ISO?
[21:42] <neverblue> Alyxander, how are you setting the res. of the monitor ? (please stop adding any words similar to proper or propper into your replies -- I have no idea what their purpose is)
[21:42] <chazco> Ah, that may be better then... how come the live cd isnt?
[21:42] <LDS_Trooper> ompaul, thanks!
[21:42] <Flare183> !mountiso > Cpudan80
[21:42] <Cpudan80> Is there some terminal command to do it, or do you have to use a 3rd party util?
[21:42] <Cpudan80> Woo thanks Flare183
[21:42] <Flare183> Cpudan80: no problem
[21:43] <Cpudan80> How bout a CD burning program for Ubuntu?
[21:43] <danonura> !Synaptic ati
[21:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about synaptic ati - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:43] <Alyxander> neverblue, ok I'm changing the res with kubuntu settings manager
[21:43] <ompaul> Cpudan80, gnomebaker
[21:43] <Cpudan80> I've heard gnome-baker is good.... any objections?
[21:43] <Flare183> !burning
[21:43] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[21:43] <danonura> !Synaptic
[21:43] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[21:43] <KaiForce> Annirak, what kind of box are you on, and is it on the same LAN?
[21:43] <Alyxander> neverblue, with ubuntu dual monitoring just doesnt work
[21:43] <neverblue> Alyxander, i thought we were talking about Ubuntu here ?
[21:43] <Flare183> !burning | Cpudan80
[21:43] <ubotu> Cpudan80: please see above
[21:44] <Cpudan80> Wow
[21:44] <timewriter> ubuntu crashes with new G92 GPu from nvidia
[21:44] <tracer75455> ubuntu 7.04; in attempting to connect to my phone (motorola v3a) via moto4lin, i get an error (E_openPhone:  Unable to set configuration).  Can someone tell me what that means and suggest how to fix?
[21:44] <Cpudan80> The bot told me to see above
[21:44] <neverblue> Alyxander, so your changing the res. with the kubuntu settings manager, while in Gnome ?
[21:44] <Cpudan80> Is that a new feature?
[21:44] <Cpudan80> It used to just spit out the facts over and overd, didn't it?
[21:44] <Flare183> Cpudan80: yeap
[21:44] <chazco> Hmm... the alternative CD has the same timestamp as the livecd... it cant have the updates on it then...
[21:44] <Alyxander> neverblue, I was.
[21:44] <Cpudan80> Flare183: Nice
[21:44] <Flare183> Cpudan80: yeap
[21:44] <Annirak> KaiForce: I've access to a couple linux boxen, a few live CDs and some XP boxen.  It's on the same LAN, going through 1-3 switches
[21:44] <shear> Hi. I'm having problems running vlc and azureus. I get an X server error 'BadAlloc' http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53384/
[21:44] <Cpudan80> No more flooding out of ubotu (or so we would hope)
[21:45] <Alyxander> neverblue, im in kubuntu im not using gnome.
[21:45] <Flare183> Cpudan80: nope, that is not unless someone abuses it
[21:45] <phosphoricx> Cpudan80: you might like the program "apropos". It allows you to search for a program by its functionality.
[21:45] <neverblue> Alyxander, this is an Ubuntu room, your aware of that, right ?
[21:45] <Alyxander> neverblue, i was saying that while in ubuntu my dual monitoring doesnot work at all
[21:45] <Cpudan80> phosphoricx: Ahh, thanks
[21:45] <phosphoricx> Cpudan80:neat huh? I just discover that myself
[21:46] <Alyxander> neverblue, duh! if you read my original question. "can someone tell me why my dual monitor will not work in ubuntu popper but works sort of in kubuntu"
[21:46] <orion1> hey when i do thsi
[21:46] <orion1> root@powerbox:/home/orionr# /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start
[21:46] <orion1> i am gettting that, that failed
[21:46] <neverblue> Alyxander, I have no idea what popper means, as I have clearly stated as well
[21:47] <KaiForce> Annirak:  try ping -b (your subnet) then arp-a
[21:47] <basy_> howto automatic deselec selected files afer copy, move, etc, in KRUSADER. They stay selected.... ?
[21:47] <neverblue> Alyxander, good luck, sorry I could not help you
[21:47] <KaiForce> Annirak: correction, arp -a
[21:47] <Alyxander> neverblue, ok your aware that there is kubuntu xubuntu and ubuntu right?
[21:47] <KaiForce> from linux
[21:47] <shachaf> If I want to get certain packages (in this case, Ruby) and all their dependencies, for installation on an offline computer, what would be the best way of doing that?
[21:47] <deftrocket> im having a terrible time getting DVDs to play
[21:47] <shachaf> (They're already installed locally.)
[21:47] <neverblue> Alyxander, no need to insult me, have a good day
[21:48] <Ricardo0> does anyone help me installing vnc=?
[21:48] <deftrocket> ive read and followed the instructions http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy
[21:48] <Alyxander> neverblue, when i say ubuntu proper im saying ubuntu standard with gnome or simply ubuntu sorry for confusing you
[21:48] <danonura> how do i install new ati video driver. better yet how can i find out what driver is on this machine now. i've got an ati radeon x1900?
[21:48] <Alyxander> and i didnt insult you neverblue
[21:48] <orion1> Any ideas why  * Starting DHCP server dhcpd3  Fails?
[21:48] <deftrocket> anyone have any ideas to help me?
[21:48] <KaiForce> after you load the gutsy live cd, is SSHD running?
[21:48] <chazco> Does anyone know how to create an updated Gusty CD? The ~200MB of updates isnt feasible
[21:48] <Starnestommy> KaiForce: you have to manually install it, I think
[21:49] <KaiForce> Starnestommy:  thanks!
[21:50] <deftrocket> im having a problem with DVD play back.  ive read http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy and followed the directions to no avail.   can anyone help?
[21:50] <egc> hi
[21:50] <shear> Anyone have any ideas as to why I might be getting this strange error with vlc/azureus? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53384/
[21:51] <Flare183> !hi | egc
[21:51] <ubotu> egc: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[21:51] <Fabio_Como> I have a problem i'm following a guide to setup VPN connection via pptp to a windows network, but I don't get the menu displayed in this image: http://tipotheday.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/vpn-connections.png. I get only the "manual connection item"......
[21:51] <r00tzz> hi
[21:51] <Ricardo0> does anyone help me installing vnc=?
[21:51] <neverblue> Alyxander, asking a person who help in #ubuntu if they realize there is an Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu, yes, thats a bit insulting
[21:51] <Flare183> !vnc
[21:51] <egc> could anybody who has dvd playback in totem(gstreamer) paste the output of "gst-inspect"??
[21:51] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[21:51] <egc> in a pm?
[21:51] <shear> deftrocket: what happens when you try to play the DVD?
[21:51] <Flare183> !vnc > Ricardo0
[21:52] <vancomycin> during the upgrade process from fiesty to gibbons, do i have to create new passwords?
[21:52] <Dr_willis> I tend to use the vnc4server. :) but it all depends on your needs.
[21:52] <Flare183> vancomycin: nope
[21:52] <k3zo> can anyone tell me the difference between using an xinitrc script and a gdm session startup for a program like compiz?  will xinitrc start it before the desktop becomes visible if I specify that to execute before gnome-session?
[21:52] <deftrocket> shear:  vlc gets big like it wants to play then closes and totem tell me it doesnt have the right plugins when i followed the directions it lead me to i have all the plugins installed
[21:53] <k3zo> deftrocket: what type of file is it?
[21:53] <justinneed> hi, I have a kasda modem, it can be used with lan and usb, I can connect with usb but not wit the lan, I try to install this /media/cdrom0/dialer/Kasda_pppoe_linux/rp-pppoe-gui-3.5-1.i386.rpm but its not letting me, any solution?
[21:53] <vancomycin> Flare183, cool - but i should replace anything that gibbons ubgrade says rather than "keep" right?
[21:53] <deftrocket> k3zo:  a DVD
[21:53] <deftrocket> i also changed my region to region 1
[21:53] <k3zo> deftrocket: a bought dvd?
[21:53] <The_PHP_Jedi> where are the kernel panic logs (and other errors) stored in?
[21:53] <deftrocket> yes
[21:53] <k3zo> deftrocket: have you got libdvdcss2?
[21:53] <Flare183> vancomycin: yeap
[21:53] <Dr_willis> k3zo,  normally the xinitrc scripts spawn the desktop/window manager as its last thing. When running gnome, xinitrc would spawn gnome-session as its last task.
[21:53] <vancomycin> Flare183, nice -
[21:53] <Alyxander> neverblue, so then you understand that asking a person who came into #ubuntu and asked a question referencing two different variants of ubuntu if he knew he was in the ubuntu room is equally insulting
[21:54] <Flare183> !variants
[21:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about variants - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:54] <Flare183> !variant
[21:54] <ubotu> The following are some examples of Ubuntu derived distributions that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes, please consult their websites for more information: Linux Mint, LinuxMCE, Ubuntu Ultimate.
[21:54] <deftrocket> k3zo: ill check
[21:54] <Flare183> !variant > Alyxander
[21:54] <justinneed> #join #linux
[21:54] <deftrocket> k3zo: sure do
[21:54] <k3zo> Dr_willis: does that mean I can have compiz start, then awn, then gnome-do then when gnome starts it'll look pretty from the off, without having to watch it load (whcihc is messy)
[21:55] <Dr_willis> Too bad those variants cant get a little more organized. Mint has some neat tools that would be nice to have in the normal ubuntu.
[21:55] <Alyxander> Flare183, I know what the variants are
[21:55] <Ricardo0> does anyone know how can i edit a .conf file ?
[21:55] <Ricardo0> !edit > Ricardo0
[21:55] <Flare183> Alyxander: just making sure
[21:55] <k3zo> deftrocket: should work then, presume you have ffmpeg installed too
[21:55] <mhrnjad> Ricardo0: gedit .conf
[21:55] <r00tzz> i get allways this error by compiling subversion: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[21:55] <Ricardo0> and then to save mhrnjad
[21:55] <deftrocket> k3zo installing ffmpeg now
[21:56] <rodolfo> hey guys
[21:56] <Ricardo0> -bash: gedit: command not found mhrnjad
[21:56] <lackli> why do my headphones squeal when i turn the speakers up to hear things?
[21:56] <ThipThip> having some trouble with chown.... it just doesn't work.  I'm trying to chown a folder (or, if need be, an entire drive) and the permission just gets set back to root.
[21:56] <neverblue> Alyxander, lets just drop it, I doubt I can assist you any further
[21:56] <k3zo> !vlc
[21:56] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs
[21:56] <Alyxander> neverblue, I agree
[21:56] <k3zo> !codecs
[21:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[21:56] <LjL> !msgthebot > k3zo    (k3zo, see the private message from Ubotu)
[21:56] <r00tzz> i get allways this error by compiling subversion: collect2: ld returned 1 exit status; what can i do?
[21:57] <deftrocket> k3zo: no go after installing ffmpeg still the same errors
[21:57] <k3zo> LjL: cheers ;)
[21:57] <k3zo> deftrocket: in vlc?
[21:57] <Dr_willis> ThipThip,  and what filesystem is this drive/folder on? ext3? ntfs? Vfat?
[21:57] <k3zo> deftrocket: it should play *anything*!
[21:57] <deftrocket> k3zo:  not playing the DVD.
[21:57] <ThipThip> Dr_willis:  It's ntfs
[21:58] <k3zo> deftrocket: 2 secs
[21:58] <deftrocket> nodnod
[21:58] <mhrnjad> Ricardo0: Ctrl+S to save
[21:58] <Dr_willis> ThipThip,  you dont just chmod/chiown files on ntfs/vfat filesystems - You use the umask/dmask/uid/gid options when you mount them.
[21:58] <k3zo> Dr_willis: does that mean I can have compiz start, then awn, then gnome-do then when gnome starts it'll look pretty from the off, without having to watch it load (whcihc is messy)
[21:58] <Ricardo0> mhrnjad but i can't start editing
[21:58] <Ricardo0> -bash: gedit: command not found
[21:58] <Dr_willis> ThipThip,  or use the ntfs3g tools.
[21:58] <Dr_willis> k3zo,  no idea. try it and see.
[21:58] <k3zo> Dr_willis: k sorry for repost!
[21:59] <mhrnjad> Ricardo0: what linux are you running?
[21:59] <Ricardo0> ubuntu
[21:59] <k3zo> deftrocket: sounds daft but just read that a restart might help! ;)
[21:59] <Riyonuk> What printer does the ubuntu community use to print those cd's that come in the mail?
[21:59] <deftrocket> k3zo: lol brb
[21:59] <k3zo> deftrocket: k
[21:59] <Ricardo0> ubuntu 7.10 mhrnjad
[21:59] <k3zo> Riyonuk: why they well done?
[21:59] <regis_grumm> test
[22:00] <josiah> If I want to rename my external hard drive to I just: mv ext\ drive extdrive
[22:00] <Dr_willis> josiah,  I dont think so.
[22:00] <mhrnjad> Ricardo0: "sudo apt-get install gedit" will install the editor
[22:00] <Dr_willis> josiah,  you are refering to where the HD is mounted to it sounds like.
[22:00] <Riyonuk> k3zo, I think they look very nice
[22:01] <josiah> Dr_willis: I am in the /media dir
[22:01] <josiah> Dr_willis: in there is my hard drive called: My Book
[22:01] <josiah> Dr_willis: I dont like the space in the name so I want to rename it to MyBook
[22:02] <woodwizzle> What is the best gnome utility to monitor CPU themps?
[22:02] <josiah> Dr_willis: so usually when I rename a dir i just do: mv dirname dirname2
[22:02] <rodolfo> Is it possible to install ubuntu on the PlayStation 2?
[22:02] <woodwizzle> I woulda though it would've been in the system monitor, but it isn't :(
[22:02] <trippss> i've got a perplexing problem . . . i'm running gutsy gibbon and have a hell of a time connecting to irc through any software, xchat, pidgin, mirc/wine, you name it. it just sits there "connection timed out." However my winblows box connects immediately (mirc). I've tried it using wired and wireless networks. restarted. turned off firewall, everything. every now again it does connect and stays for a while. any ideas or place to start debugging?
[22:02] <Dr_willis> josiah,  you could just make a soft link from 'MyBook' to 'My Book' which sould be easier.
[22:02] <woodwizzle> rodolfo: I dunno, but if it is that's awesome. You can pick up new thin ones for cheap
[22:03] <Dr_willis> josiah,  sudo ln -s 'one thing' 'other thing'
[22:03] <BlackDiamonds> what is the tool for making my own repo list ?
[22:03] <BlackDiamonds> like I would check mark a bunch of things and I could get a nice sources.list ?
[22:03] <rodolfo> woodwizzle: I dont know too, but I heard some guys who did it but on PS3 =/
[22:04] <arjuna> why is windows so negetive?
[22:04] <Dr_willis> josiah,  sudo ln -s 'Original Name' 'New Name' is more clear :)
[22:04] <Dr_willis> arjuna,  bad karma?
[22:04] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[22:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about easysource - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:04] <Dr_willis> Hmm..
[22:04] <ThipThip> Dr_willis:  I'm lost.  The ntfs config tool is not working.  I'm a little over my head I think.  I tried googling umask, but I don't really understand what I'm looking at.
[22:04] <arjuna> Dr_willis> would i develop mental diseases if i use windows?
[22:04] <rodolfo> woodwizzle: now...I wonder if this is possible using PS2 as a graphical station or even emulating wingames on it. AWESOME! :D
[22:05] <Ricardo0> Type :quit<Enter> to exit Vim
[22:05] <Ricardo0> i already have typed this
[22:05] <josiah> Dr_willis: yes that worked just fine... but my windows machine is still not seeing it for some reason... i thought it might have been because of the space in the share name... im going nuts trying to get samba to work or for my windows machine to read it at least
[22:05] <Ricardo0> but i cant quit
[22:05] <Ricardo0> and mhrnjad i can't edit the file i want
[22:05] <trippss> Ricardo0: have you pressed <esc> a few times to make sure you're not in editing mode, etc.?
[22:06] <Ricardo0> yes trippss
[22:06] <mhrnjad> Ricardo0: are you on a console or on X_windows?
[22:06] <Ricardo0> console
[22:06] <Ricardo0> ssh
[22:06] <mhrnjad> Ricardo0: in that case you will need to use 'vi'
[22:06] <woodwizzle> rodolfo: I think it would be cooler as a media thin client. To stream media to another room in the house via samba or nfs and then playing it on a tv. But i don't think it can be done
[22:06] <Dr_willis> josiah,  if this is a exteranal usb hard drive with ntfs/vfat onit. You Might want to change the disk label under windows to MyBook
[22:07] <Ricardo0> ye mhrnjad but vi its just to view the file right?
[22:07] <mhrnjad> Ricardo0: did you ever use vi?
[22:07] <rxndx> hello all!
[22:07] <Ricardo0> nop
[22:07] <Ricardo0> im new to unix
[22:07] <DurkaDurka> Can someone help me with cygwin and psptoolchain?
[22:07] <vancomycin> the upgrade to gusty from fawn has been showing 10mins remaining for the upgrade process - funny thing is that was 20 mins ago :)
[22:07] <DurkaDurka> Can someone help me with cygwin and psptoolchain?
[22:07] <mhrnjad> Ricardo0: vi is an editor .. you can do whatever you like to a file when using it
[22:07] <neverblue> DurkaDurka, thats a bit off topic for this channel
[22:07] <DurkaDurka> Can someone help me with cygwin and psptoolchain?
[22:07] <Ricardo0> how can i quit mhrnjad from it?
[22:07] <Ricardo0> and save?
[22:07] <askand> !info rawstudio
[22:07] <ubotu> rawstudio (source: rawstudio): open source raw-image converter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-1 (gutsy), package size 195 kB, installed size 500 kB
[22:07] <neverblue> !enter | DurkaDurka
[22:08] <ubotu> DurkaDurka: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[22:08] <josiah> Dr_willis: I just did... still no luck. It was working before... then I unplugged the external drive and plugged it back in... now windows isnt seeing my machine
[22:08] <Ricardo0> !vi > Ricardo0
[22:08] <neverblue> !patience > DurkaDurka
[22:08] <mhrnjad> Ricardo0: hit the ESC key
[22:08] <rxndx> woke up this morning and wireless was completely gone from my downstairs computer... I have tried unplugging the card and re-inserting it, reconfiguring it from the command line and restarting several times but nothing has worked so far... any help?
[22:08] <mhrnjad> Ricardo0: then type :q
[22:08] <Ricardo0> already did it
[22:08] <Ricardo0> im out
[22:08] <DurkaDurka> Stupid lag
[22:08] <Ricardo0> but now i can't see the cmd line
[22:08] <mhrnjad> !vi > mhrnjad
[22:09] <Dr_willis> josiah,  You may want to mount the thing manually, and create a share specifically for that hard drive.
[22:09] <mhrnjad> Ricardo0: hit the ENTER key a few times
[22:09] <DurkaDurka> neverblue where should i go?
[22:09] <trippss> Ricardo0: what happens if you Ctrl-Z to put it in the background? then do a ps to see if it's still alive
[22:09] <Ricardo0> its alive
[22:09] <peanutwithchocol> pleae hoe can i put kde4 into spanish???????
[22:09] <josiah> Dr_willis: I tried that... and I just tried sharing a dir in my /home dir and windows still isnt seeing it... the workgroups are set up correctly I dont understand
[22:10] <pgr> hi
[22:10] <jblack> If you're running hardy heron, be wary of "passwd -l". Old semantics for older ubuntu (and most every other distro) is just to disable passwords. Now actual expiry is being set.
[22:10] <mhrnjad> Ricardo0: go ack to vi
[22:10] <Dr_willis> josiah,  work on one thing at a time i guess. so homes was being shared and now its not?
[22:10] <Ricardo0> yap im in
[22:10] <Ricardo0> how can i start editing?
[22:10] <chris4> well looks like for the purposes I want to use that PC for, it'll need to stay windows98, too many games I want to use(about 50%) don't work with wine. I guess I'll try ubuntu again when either wine improves, or I get a PC that is for work only.
[22:10] <mhrnjad> Ricardo0: hit the ESC key and the Ctrl+G, what does vi say at the bottom?
[22:10] <josiah> Dr_willis: yes everything worked yesturday
[22:11] <Ricardo0> "vnc.conf" line 2 of 103 --1%-- col 1
[22:11] <Dr_willis> josiah,  see if the linux box can see/acces its own shares for a start I guess.
[22:11] <mhrnjad> Ricardo0: cool , try using your cursor keys .. do they work?
[22:11] <woodwizzle> So anyone know a good gnome tool for checking out my pc and system temps?
[22:11] <chris4> thx for the help, bye
[22:11] <Ricardo0> ye
[22:11] <Ricardo0> mhrnjad
[22:12] <trippss> Ricardo0: type :help and start going through the help menus, if you're not familiar with vi
[22:12] <woodwizzle> I couldn't even find a default panel widget that would monitor them
[22:12] <rodolfo> woodwizzle: have you looked at http://gnomefiles.org/ ?
[22:12] <Annirak> I found my box by getting the network admin to send me the dhcp table
[22:12] <Annirak> win!
[22:12] <Dr_willis> If wanting tolearn the vi basics - the command 'vimtutor' has a tutorial for vi. :)
[22:13] <aisStar> Hello guys.  I have problems when I visit flash pages (frezzing allways)...........
[22:13] <jeffMASTERflex> woodwizzle: isn't there a panel widget called "system monitor"?
[22:13] <pgr> I've got apache2 with php and php5-mysql, but cant access MySQL from PHP, maybe because MySQL is not installed from apt-get. How can I configure apache and php to work with it?
[22:13] <cdecarlo> Dr_willis: really ... guess I can put away my shirt with all the vi commands on it
[22:13] <jeffMASTERflex> Ricardo0: instead of using vi you can use nano. It is MUCH easier to use. Vi has a learning curve
[22:13] <pretender_> i want to make a mp3cd that plays track on shuffle mode what can i use in ubuntu
[22:14] <josiah> Dr_willis: when I goto Places -> network it shows my windows machine right away and its not listed in "Windows Network"... isnt that odd?
[22:14] <fbc> Help! I shrunk my drive in Vista and and did a guided install using free space. I can see vista in the grub loader, but the system only reboots when I try to load vista. How can I fix this?
[22:14] <Dr_willis> cdecarlo,  are they printed upside down so you can read them? :) I got a vi coffee cup.
[22:14] <rodolfo> woodwizzle: you can try hardware monitor: http://gnomefiles.org/download.php?soft_id=443&where=http%3A%2F%2Fpeople.iola.dk%2Folau%2Fhardware-monitor%2Fhardware-monitor-1.4.tar.bz2 [direct link to the file]
[22:14] <cdecarlo> Dr_willis: indeed they are
[22:14] <vancomycin> i'm prompted during the gibbons upgrade to remove obsolete packages
[22:14] <shear> Dr_willis: i bought one of those cups as well, as a joke. I ended up using it quite a bit :P
[22:14] <Dr_willis> josiah,  i normlally use the 'fuse samba' tools these days.
[22:15] <vancomycin> should i remove or skip this step?
[22:15] <rxndx> woke up this morning and wireless was completely gone from my downstairs computer... I have tried unplugging the card and re-inserting it, reconfiguring it from the command line and restarting several times but nothing has worked so far... any help?
[22:15] <josiah> Dr_willis: what is that?
[22:16] <Dr_willis> josiah,  makes your samba network show up under a normal 'directory' Not needing to use the file manager to browse smb:// stuff
[22:16] <Dr_willis> josiah,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb
[22:17] <Questions> hi
[22:17] <fbc> Can someone help me tweak my grub so that I can get back into windows please. All I did was a guided installation using the freespace on the drive. How do I get back to windows.
[22:17] <rxndx> fbc, you're going to be lucky if you can recover it
[22:17] <cdecarlo> fbc: You don't! HA HA another happy convert!
[22:17] <tobo> is http://home-tj.org/wiki/index.php/Libata-tj-stable answering 403 forbidden for anyone else?
[22:17] <boinker> does anyone know how to transfer files into virtual boxs virtual machine????
[22:18] <boinker> does anyone know a way to make iso files in ubuntu
[22:18] <rxndx> you should have used the partitioner to manually set up a new partition for ubuntu...
[22:18] <fbc> Why?? The guide I read said it make it Dual-boot.
[22:18] <jeffMASTERflex> tobo: yes
[22:18] <tobo> tnx jeff
[22:18] <rxndx> sucks, but the same thing happened to me a while back
[22:18] <protcront> hello
[22:18] <tobo> does anyone know another place to get the 2.6.23 libata patch?
[22:18] <Questions> Sorry to interrupt, but how do I use the motd file? It doesn't seem to do anything for me.
[22:18] <tobo> cant seem to find one using google
[22:18] <rxndx> I had to learn the hard way ;)
[22:18] <protcront> i installed the vsftpd server, do know the url to access on the machine ?
[22:18] <protcront> does anybody know?
[22:18] <tobo> they all refer to the homepage of tejun
[22:18] <jeffMASTERflex> boinker: there is a program called ISOMaster that should do the trick
[22:19] <fbc> rxndx, cdecarlo I can see the option in the grub loader, it just reboots when I try to use it.
[22:19] <boinker> thanks
[22:19] <danand> Questions look at /etc/motd
[22:19] <boinker> jeffMASTERflex: thank you
[22:19] <Questions> yup
[22:19] <rxndx> so then what do you want to do? remove grub?
[22:19] <cdecarlo> fbc: ya I was making a joke, I've got no idea how to help you sorry
[22:19] <fbc> rxndx, If that is what will get me back then yes..
[22:19] <Dr_willis> fbc,  You proberly need to edit the grub menu.lst  - it may be confused as to what settings are needed toboot the windows drive.
[22:20] <tobo> does anyone have a webserver running where they temporarily could put the libata tj stable patch för 2.6.23 so that i could download it, please
[22:20] <fbc> Dr_willis, how would I know what the correct setting is?
[22:20] <pretender_> what software does mp3 cd's that play on a shuffle mode in ubuntu
[22:20] <Dr_willis> fbc,  you proberly should pastebin the  /boot/grub/menu.lst file and the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'  for starters.. that way people in here can see whats going on.
[22:20] <rxndx> just insert your windows cd, keep clicking until you see the Repair option, type R (or whatever it is) and then type fixmbr
[22:20] <fbc> Dr_willis, ok will do..
[22:20] <rxndx> that will do it for ya ;)
[22:21] <Dr_willis> rxndx,  and leve him with a lot of hd used by linux.
[22:21] <ThipThip> I'm getting an error when trying to mount a drive that, up until now, has been working perfectly.  It is an NTFS drive and I changed the permissions on the drive.  I think I did it wrong.  The error is this:  mount: can't find /dev/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[22:22] <ThipThip> Dr_willis:  I'm still a bit lost.
[22:22] <Dr_willis> ThipThip,  how did you 'change the permissions on the drive' ?
[22:22] <rxndx> Dr_willis, well, at least he would have his windows back, then he could delete or overwrite the linux install...
[22:22] <ThipThip> ThipThip:  The dumb way - the way I told you I tried.  I sudo'd nautilus, right-clicked, etc
[22:22] <arjuna> how much performance do you lose with vbox?
[22:22] <shear> rxndx: doesn't windows have a habit of nuking grub? or did that only ever happen to me. I remember having to install windows then linux, as it would never work the other way round.
[22:22] <rxndx> if it's in the freespace of the drive, there's no danger in that
[22:23] <aFQ> hi
[22:23] <rxndx> right, that's why I said to type fixmbr
[22:23] <Dr_willis> ThipThip,  you dont change permissions on ntfs filesystems that way. Youneed a proper fstab entry for them. Using either ntfs-3g or similer.
[22:23] <jeffMASTERflex> shear: doing the fixmbr will nuke grub as it will be overwritten by the Windows bootloader
[22:23] <fxd_> can anyone help with a terminal error related to setting up my wireless network?
[22:23] <rxndx> it will remove grub and allow windows to boot again
[22:23] <fbc> Dr_willis, ok here is the pastebin of the output of both of those. http://pastebin.com/d4302829c
[22:23] <Dr_willis> ThipThip,  example fstab entry for my ntfs disk --> #/dev/sdb1      /media/minihd ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[22:23] <rxndx> or, he could type fixboot
[22:23] <rxndx> that did the trick for me...but his mileage may vary ;)
[22:24] <cdecarlo> is there a reliable way to write to NTFS partitions?
[22:24] <jeffMASTERflex> cdecarlo: ntfs-3g is the only "reliable" way to write to NTFS paritions
[22:24] <nemilar> cdecarlo: yeah, the ntfs-3g driver works great
[22:24] <fbc> rxndx, yeah the point was to get it to be dual bootable.. http://pastebin.com/d4302829c
[22:25] <cdecarlo> jeffMASTERflex: ok how reliable is "reliable"
[22:25] <nemilar> cdecarlo: it's stable, you don't have to worry about it
[22:25] <jeffMASTERflex> cdecarlo: reliable enough to use at home. but not something i would use at work
[22:25] <Dr_willis> fbc,  the linux grub entries work fine ?
[22:25] <Breakage> I just upgraded from xfce 4.4.1 to 4.4.2 with xubuntu gutsy via xubuntu-team's launchpad ppa all is fine exept thunar won't recongnise my master hdd. there is no HDD icon in sidepanel. how can I fix this?
[22:25] <fxd_> new to ubuntu and having trouble moving a file. Can anyone help me change permissions?
[22:25] <fbc> rxndx, If I do a fixboot or fixmbr it will wipe grub, and I don't think I will be able to boot into that partition unless I can rig the vista loader with the proper syntax.
[22:25] <Arakno> cmmqs initialization is failed
[22:25] <nemilar> fxd_: use the chmod command
[22:25] <Arakno> i get this on kernel load
[22:26] <Arakno> why?
[22:26] <fbc> Dr_willis,  yeah I can boot into linux just fine.
[22:26] <rxndx> right
[22:26] <nemilar> fxd_: if you don't own the file, you'll have to use 'sudo chown [your user name] [filename]'
[22:26] <Dr_willis> fbc,  odd.. I dont see any errors in the menu.lst  ( you dident patste the wole menu.lst)  -  Not sure whats going on.
[22:26] <fxd_> nemilar: the problem is I don't really know what permission i have to change to move the file
[22:26] <rxndx> I understood your problem as saying that you wanted to ditch linux and get back to windows... my bad ;)
[22:26] <fbc> Dr_willis, all I left out was the comments.
[22:27] <nemilar> fxd_: you need write permissions of the file, and to the directory where you're moving the file
[22:27] <rxndx> I love linux personally, and only use XP when I'm recording music or using photoshop...
[22:27] <bunowa16> oh
[22:27] <bunowa16> réussi
[22:27] <Dr_willis> fbc,  your windoss install IS on the first hard drive? or is it on the 2nd hard drive?
[22:28] <arjuna> why do people use different distro? is it because of  different screens or performance( who loads faster)
[22:28] <nztux> erff bad se U
[22:28] <Dr_willis> arjuna,  differnt tweaks and little things mostly
[22:28] <fxd_> nemilar: I figured as much but I'm pretty unstable in the terminal
[22:28] <nemilar> arjuna: just different strokes for different folks
[22:28] <fbc> Dr_willis, here is a pastebin of the whole file.. http://pastebin.com/d6dc0e26d
[22:28] <jeffMASTERflex> arjuna: some distros just "work better" with your hardware
[22:28] <bunowa16> premier irc
[22:28] <bunowa16> depuis longtemps
[22:28] <Breakage> I just upgraded from xfce 4.4.1 to 4.4.2 with xubuntu gutsy via xubuntu-team's launchpad ppa all is fine exept thunar won't recongnise my master hdd. there is no HDD icon in sidepanel. how can I fix this?
[22:28] <bunowa16> ca fait bizarre
[22:28] <nemilar> arjuna: for example, Gentoo compiles everything from source, which some people like, and some people hate
[22:28] <fbc> Dr_willis, it's installed in the first and only drive in the system.. a sata drive and was working just fine...
[22:29] <arjuna> which linux has the most people working? and how many people usually work on a linux distro?
[22:29] <jeffMASTERflex> arjuna: my personal faves are Ubuntu and PCLOS, as they run the smoothest to me. but as the doctor says 'different strokes'
[22:29] <Dr_willis> fbc,  Hmm..your fdisk -l showed 2 hard drives
[22:29] <Dr_willis> fbc,   a 200 and a 500gb disk.
[22:30] <nemilar> arjuna: that's a really tough question to answer
[22:30] <ThipThip> Dr_willis:  I don't know what to do.  I downloaded ntfs-config and it doesn't work.
 what do you call linux that are easy yto use like windows such as ubuntu and pclinuxos?
[22:30] <nemilar> arjuna: my guess would be Red Hat, since it's a commercial distrobution
[22:30] <fbc> Dr_willis, yeah, that's an external USB
[22:30] <nemilar> arjuna: but then, Dell supports Ubuntu, so they have people working on it
[22:30] <askand> is nautilus-wallpaper installed by default?
[22:30] <nemilar> arjuna: Debian is largely volunteers, but Debian is the basis for Ubuntu
[22:30] <Dr_willis> fbc,  Hmm.. Try booting with the external usb removed? I dont see any other things out of the ordinary
[22:30] <jeffMASTERflex> arjuna: i don't consider windows usable to me. its quirks bother me. i've been using linux for about 4 years.
[22:31] <zcat[1]> !uuid
[22:31] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[22:31] <orion1> Hey im am trying to install ubuntu on a laptop that doesnt not have a cdrom. When i try to start dhcp3-server it fails any ideas?
[22:31] <rxndx> any wireless gurus around today?
[22:31] <newguest> hi
[22:31] <jeffMASTERflex> arjuna: some distros have different patches or use different packaging systems. I just prefer how ubuntu and PCLOS are set up
[22:31] <fbc> Dr_willis,  Then I'll be back I guess since I have to reboot this machine... stand by.. and thank you.
[22:31] <Dr_willis> ThipThip,  Theres loads of docs on setting up a proper fstab line for  ntfs drives.   I pasted an example earlier.
[22:31] <bkar> orion1 hey what errors?
[22:32] <newguest> i need help: my friend wants to reformat her pc and wants me to reformat it, installing ubuntu in the process
[22:32] <orion1> bkar: it just says faials when i try to start it?
 red hat had enned in 2004?
[22:32]  * orion1 start it.
[22:32] <arjuna> ended*
[22:32] <newguest> anybody?
[22:32] <bkar> orion1-> it should say what error is
[22:32] <bkar> !who > orion1
[22:32] <rxndx> newguest, did you ask a question?
[22:32] <orion1> "/etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start"  * Starting DHCP server dhcpd3                                           [fail]
[22:32] <newguest> sombody help..?
[22:33] <bkar> orion1-> pastebin the contents of your dhcpd.conf
[22:33] <rxndx> newguest, very simple
[22:33] <newguest> ok
[22:33] <Cpudan80> When I start firefox, it segfaults -- where does its core dump go?
[22:34] <Cpudan80> this is Gutsy x86_64
[22:34] <rxndx> newguest, just insert the ubuntu live cd, boot the machine and then install ubuntu
[22:34] <newguest> rxndx: what do i do?
[22:34] <Arthur> How do I find the vmware directory?
[22:34] <jeffMASTERflex> newguest: the ubuntu installer gives you the option to use the entire disk for installation. it will format the whole disk and install
[22:34] <rxndx> it will reformat automatically during the process
[22:34] <nemilar> arjuna: no, red hat is still alive and well
[22:34] <newguest> oh i c
[22:34] <Breakage> Could someone help, im using Xfce 4.4.2 with xubuntu just upgraded from 4.4.1 but thunar isn't showing my ntfs drive. it shows up under fdisk -l as /dev/sda1.
[22:34] <newguest> how big is the file to put on the cd?
[22:34] <nemilar> arjuna: they just spun-off Ferdora Linux, which is the non-commercial version
[22:34] <bill__> Cpudan80, usually your current working directory when you started it, or your home directory
[22:34] <rxndx> unless by "Reformat" you actually want to "Securely Wipe" the drive, then reformat...
[22:34] <arjuna> what's the file type that mandriva uses?
[22:34] <jeffMASTERflex> newguest: it's an image and it's about 680 MB
[22:35] <nemilar> arjuna: it's RPM based I believe
[22:35] <askand> !show nautilus-wallpaper
[22:35] <newguest> k good - my cd is 700mb
[22:35] <newguest> ty very much
[22:35] <nemilar> nearly everything is either DEB based or RPM based
[22:35] <askand> !info nautilus-wallpaper
[22:35] <ubotu> nautilus-wallpaper (source: nautilus-wallpaper): Nautilus extension. Add a "set as wallpaper" entry in context menu. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1-0ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB
[22:35] <jeffMASTERflex> nemilar: except every distro based on slackware or gentoo
[22:35] <rxndx> newguest, right and you can also just boot up the cd and reformat if you want
[22:35] <rxndx> ;)
[22:35] <nemilar> jeffMASTERflex: yeah
[22:35] <ThipThip> Dr Willis:  Here's my current fstab for sdb1:  UUID=621C7C841C7C554F /media/sdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[22:35] <nemilar> jeffMASTERflex: or LFS
[22:36] <orion1> bkar: http://pastebin.ca/871393
[22:36] <arjuna> where can i find swiftfox rpm file?
[22:36] <orion1> bkar: right after i installed it and tried to start it, it failed
[22:36] <tobo> jeffMASTERflex: any ideas on a channel where i would be able to get help retreiving the libata tj patches?
[22:36] <nemilar> arjuna: if you're using ubuntu you want to use apt/debs
[22:36] <bkar> orion1-> give me a chance to look
[22:36] <jeffMASTERflex> tobo: sorry i don't know.
  no i want the rpm
[22:37] <rxndx> when a person enters who is knowledgeable about wireless, please let me know! my downstairs computer's wireless quit working this morning unexpectedly
[22:37] <jeffMASTERflex> arjuna: the only RPM distro i like is PCLOS because it uses Synaptic and apt-get. i hate everything else
[22:37] <pgr> i've installed apache2 + php and php5-mysql, but cant access MySQL from PHP, maybe because MySQL isnt installed from apt. How can I configure apache and php to work with it?
[22:37] <makasd0> Hello. Once I have "aptitude install <package>" I do "aptitude show <package>" and one line gives me "State: not installed". So...how do I install it? How do I proceed from here?
[22:38] <orion1> rxndx: is it connected to the wireless netowork?
 what about mandriva?
[22:38] <aFQ> z/w
[22:38] <astro76> !ot | arjuna
[22:38] <ubotu> arjuna: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[22:38] <rxndx> orion1, yes and i've tried unplugging the card and re-configuring it from the command line too
[22:38] <jeffMASTERflex> arjuna: i personally don't like mandriva. i like apt-get based package managers
[22:38] <rxndx> orion1, the network icon even comes up, but it's just not connecting for some reason...
[22:39] <jeffMASTERflex> arjuna: but try it out. YOU might like it
[22:39] <orion1> rxndex: does it just time out and keep trying to connect?
[22:39] <rxndx> orion1, yes
[22:39] <rxndx> orion1, everything has been great the past 10 or 11 months... just happened this morning
[22:39] <orion1> rxndex: if you change the name of your wireless network im almost sure it will work again. I have had that problem before.
[22:40] <mikebeecham> i wonder if someone can help me.  For some reason the icons within the menu have become smaller...is there any way to put them back to the original size?
[22:40] <Gecko> Hey, where is the global $PATH set in ubuntu?
[22:40] <rxndx> orion1, you mean the Essid?
[22:40] <orion1> rxndx: change the ssid is the quick fix i would say
[22:40] <Cpudan80> Anyone have any ideas about my firefox problem?
[22:40] <Cpudan80> It just segfaults
[22:40] <orion1> bkar: do you see anything?
[22:40] <rxndx> orion1, will do big thanx and will report back asap
[22:40] <bkar> orion1-> this will not work i think  ns1.example.org, ns2.example.org;   also enable some options in line 40-45
[22:40] <makasd0> can anyone please help me? After I do "apt-get install <package>" the packages is still not installed, just downloaded. How do I proceed from here?
[22:41] <jeffMASTERflex> Cpudan80: did you try to uninstall, trmove the .mozilla entry in your home folder, then reinstalling?
[22:41] <Arthur> How do I find the vmware directory?
[22:41] <astro76> Gecko: /etc/environment
[22:41] <jeffMASTERflex> Cpudan80: sorry that should have been *remove*
[22:41] <Cpudan80> jeffMASTERflex: I didn't delete .mozilla -- let me try that
[22:42] <nemilar> Cpudan80: you're gonna lose your bookmarks!!!
[22:42] <Gecko> astro76: thanks
[22:42] <bkar> makasd0-> have you tried reading some tutorials in ubuntu on adding a package and what to do next?
[22:42] <bieb> I am trying to fix a friends XP laptop. I had to replace the motherboard. when it attempts to load windoze it constantly blue screens. I can boot the system with ubuntu or xubuntu live with no problems, I am able to mount the hard drive and see all the contents. Is there a tool in *buntu to do a hardware diagnostic??
[22:43] <bkar> Arthur if you have updated db, "locate vmware" on cli
[22:43] <orion1> bkar: do you know how to do a network install of ubuntu/
[22:43] <Breakage> Could someone help, im using Xfce 4.4.2 with xubuntu just upgraded from 4.4.1 using xubuntu-team ppa. but now thunar isn't showing my ntfs drive. it shows up under fdisk -l as /dev/sda1, but no icon in thunar side panel or desktop.
[22:43] <thatroom> anyone know how to set up kxmame?
[22:43] <nemilar> bieb: did you try a fresh windows install?
[22:43] <jetscreamer> it's because you replaced the motherboard, but that is more of a ##windows question
[22:43] <makasd0> bkar: I am sorry, but the tutorials makes me think that's it. After apt-get install <package> the package will be installed completly. I have found no more commands to run to get the package fully installed. I can't seem to find it anywhere...:'C
[22:43] <nemilar> yeah, who replaces the motherboard in a laptop, anyway
[22:43] <bkar> orion1-> maybe, i have not done it for a while, plenty of tutorials out there
[22:43] <Cpudan80> nemilar: I have a backup of those
[22:43] <Arthur> Thank you bkar, that did it
[22:43] <thatroom> what kind of notebook?
[22:43] <bieb> nemilar, I used the HP restore volume and it still blue screens
[22:43] <TuxOtaku> has anyone here ever used OpenVZ on Ubuntu?
[22:44] <jetscreamer> makasd0: did you try apt-get -f install or dpkg -a --configure ?
[22:44] <nemilar> Cpudan80: good call
[22:44] <nemilar> bieb: but did you try a regular XP cd?
[22:44] <bkar> makasd0-> it may have been installed, which package was it?
[22:44] <nemilar> bieb: this really a ##windows question btw
[22:44] <tag> what do I have to do to make recording work
[22:44] <jetscreamer> nemilar: ppl who know how do
[22:44] <johnficca> Hi how do I enable the s-video out port on my thinkpad t40...I'm running ubuntu 7.10
[22:44] <tag> I can't get input from my microphone
[22:44] <Cpudan80> Hrm it still doesnt work
[22:44] <yoshi> Hi all, I am attempting to install Ubuntu on a VERY old IBM thinkpad (a t21). I'm stuck on the part where it says "Where are you?" (selecting the timezone). I double clicked on the dot that indicates my city (the dot is now blinking), but nothing else has happened. it's been doing that for 10 minutes now. What do I do to continue to the next page?
[22:45] <bieb> nemilar, its a linux question if I am trying to use my ubuntu Cd to do a hardware diagnostic
[22:45] <Cpudan80> It loaded up this time - but then it died
[22:45] <astro76> bieb: the windows restore is probably tied to the hardware, that's why they do it so it's useless to copy... but yeah head to ##windows
[22:45] <makasd0> bkar: it was php5; mysql-server; phpmyadmin; apache2; konversation and some more packages
[22:45] <nemilar> bieb: what astro76 just said
[22:45] <thatroom> thinkpads still using the c&t video set or is it post c&t
[22:45] <bkar> bieb give up and give me the laptop instead..hehe
[22:45] <jetscreamer> johnficca: apt-cache search thinkpad iirc .. also there is a utility iirc.. i have a t20 though so my stuff is probably not like yours
[22:45] <bieb> ok.. so you dont think there is some other hardware issue?
[22:45] <jeffMASTERflex> yoshi: if the installer is frozen on an old system, it might be wise to use the alternate install disc
[22:46] <astro76> bieb: the only issue is you changed your hardware and now you need a full windows install disk
[22:46] <nemilar> bieb: see if a regular Windows CD will work with it
[22:46] <bieb> that is why I was trying to boot with *buntu
[22:46] <crwlr> I'm kickin my arse right now, everybody that's tried to help me with TwinView...I figured out the problem...
[22:46] <nemilar> bieb: if you changed your hardware, you can't use your old restore disk
[22:46] <ompaul> bieb, which edition of which version?
[22:46] <bkar> makasd0-> okay, well then did you test those package if they will run?
[22:46] <ThipThip> What should the fstab and mtab entries for an NTFS drive look like, generally?  I am suddenly unable to mount an NTFS partition after (stupidly) trying to modify the permissions for it using chown and chmod.
[22:46] <bieb> ok... I will try the regular Windows.. I wanted to rule out hardware
[22:46] <bieb> Xp Pro
[22:46] <zcat[1]> !botsnack
[22:46] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[22:46] <rxndx> orion1, I changed the name, but it had no effect so what I did was change the connection type from Static IP to DHCP and then back to Static IP and Voila!
[22:46] <nemilar> ThipThip: are you using FUSE or the kernel NTFS driver?
[22:46] <crwlr> my 2nd LCD wasn't plugged in correctly...the plug that goes to the back of my LCD was unplugged....GARRR!!!!
[22:46] <bkar> bieb-> do you really want the xp back of want to stay with ubuntu?
[22:47] <rxndx> orion1, take care and thank you for the help!
[22:47] <ThipThip> nemilar:  How can I tell that?  (Sorry I've only been using Ubuntu for 4 days)
[22:47] <Breakage> Hmm. I done fdisk -l and my ntfs drive is showing up under there as /dev/sda1 which is normal but it's not showing up in thunar.
[22:47] <nemilar> ThipThip: by default it'll use the fuse driver
[22:47] <makasd0> bkar: well since it's theese packages, I don't really know...you can't *run* php, you can't really run anything before you have a homepage and some database-stuff...well...I will try
[22:47] <bieb> bkar... my laptop.. was converted from Vista to Ubuntu.. since this is not mine and I was doing it as a favor.. she wants to keep Doze
[22:47] <ThipThip> nemilar: I don't recall taking any action to change it.
[22:47] <nemilar> ThipThip: default would be something of the sort: /dev/[device] /mnt/[mountpoint] ntfs defaults,user 0 0
[22:47] <bkar> makasd0-> well try running your apache and those apps okay?
[22:48] <rxndx> take care all
[22:48] <rxndx> be back soon to help out ;)
[22:48] <thatroom> if you're replacing a motherboard in a notebook it's almost 100% that you'll be replacing with the same thing, excepting maybe a revision difference.
[22:48] <tales_2010> my sound card doesn't make any sound, it was working with a noise.. and then i went to alsa mixer to see if the volume was too high and it stopped working.. any suggestion??
[22:48] <johnficca> jetscreamer: what is apt-cache?
[22:48] <ThipThip> Should that be in fstab or mtab?  what does user 0 0 mean?  How would this have been removed?
[22:48] <yoshi> jeffMASTERflex: ado you know of any forms for installing ubuntu through the terminal, or would that just leave me in the same position?
[22:48] <nemilar> ThipThip: you can use the 'mount' command to see what the device is, or 'dmesg' if it's not already mounted
[22:48] <nemilar> ThipThip: no, it goes in fstab
[22:48] <ompaul> bieb, the way you are going about it you just stick in the cd and if it boots great if not then you do this /msg ubotu bootoptions - but it is still not a 100% test
[22:48] <bkar> bieb-> i suggest, you load ubuntu, then virtualbox and then load xp or several other os on virtual box, problem maybe solved!
[22:48] <makasd0> bkar: yes thanks very much
[22:48] <nemilar> ThipThip: user means that users can interact with it
[22:49] <ljsmithx> :D
[22:49] <nemilar> ThipThip: instead of just root
[22:49] <Scunizi> Am I right in noticing two different print dialogs depending on the program that tries to print?
[22:49] <jeffMASTERflex> yoshi: i do not think there is a terminal based installer on the livecd. The alternate install disc provides an ncurses based graphical installer
[22:49] <bieb> bkar thanks..
[22:49] <Breakage> Could someone help, im using Xfce 4.4.2 with xubuntu just upgraded from 4.4.1 but thunar isn't showing my ntfs drive. it shows up under fdisk -l as /dev/sda1. How do I get Xfce to recongise it?
[22:49] <makasd0> bkar: I will do my best to not ask questions...it's just that it is so hard to get going with a new linux, I am new to linux overall and have only used sabayon linux....thanks alot for your time
[22:49] <bieb> ompaul I have no problem loading with Ubuntu or Xubuntu
[22:49] <astro76> ThipThip: gutsy sets it up like this: UUID=xxx /media/windows  ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[22:49] <nemilar> Breakage: is it mounted?
[22:49] <bkar> bieb-> that will give her access to several os'es
[22:49] <ljsmithx> lol Seveas banned me from #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:49] <nemilar> Breakage: run the 'mount' command to see a list of mounted drives
[22:50] <Breakage> nemilar: ok one sec
[22:50] <tales_2010> hey someone could help me with my sound card?
[22:50] <astro76> ThipThip: using gid=46 instead of users lets you control access with plugdev group membership, rather than just all users, if that helps ;)
[22:50] <nemilar> ljsmithx: hahaha
[22:50] <ompaul> bieb, then it has nothing to do with ubuntu so please go elsewhere
[22:50] <Seveas> ljsmithx, and I'll do the same from here if you don't behave
[22:50] <ljsmithx> ;)
[22:50] <fxd_> can anyone help me setting my wireless up? i am following a forum page but running into an unexplained snag
[22:50] <ljsmithx> wow
[22:50] <ljsmithx> alot of people join all the time
[22:50] <crwlr> fxd_: do you have the driver installed?
[22:50] <bkar> makasd0-> its not that hard really, spend some time reading linux books too, you will pick up pointers here and there
[22:50] <Breakage> nemilar: nope not mounted used to show up in thunar when it was unmounted though, wasn't on automount.
[22:51] <nemilar> ljsmithx: yeah this place is pretty crowded
[22:51] <fxd_> I believe that is the step I am stuck on
[22:51] <nemilar> Breakage: try mounting it, see if it shows up
[22:51] <bieb> ompaul you should go back and read what the first question entailed. I use Ubuntu and wanted to know of a good hardware diagnostic tool to use
[22:51] <ljsmithx> thats why i goto #ubuntu-offtopic, nemilar
[22:51] <bkar> fxd_-> let me guess, broadcom chip on your wifi?
[22:51] <ThipThip> astro76, et. al.:  Currently my fstab lists the following:  # Entry for /dev/sdb1 :
[22:51] <ThipThip> UUID=621C7C841C7C554F /media/sdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[22:51] <crwlr> !ndiswrapper > fxd_
[22:51] <ljsmithx> :O
[22:51] <fxd_> bkar: yeah
[22:51] <nemilar> ljsmithx: I go to -offtopic so I can say things like how about I skipped work today, etc
[22:51] <tales_2010> please help!
[22:51] <ompaul> bieb, install it h
[22:51] <ljsmithx> lol
[22:51] <Seveas> ljsmithx, stop being offtopic in here
[22:52] <Scunizi> mak
[22:52] <bkar> fxd_-> you are the gazillionth customer with broadcom chip issues..
[22:52] <ljsmithx> Seveas, ok
[22:52] <nemilar> ljsmithx: see, you're already getting us in trouble
[22:52] <ljsmithx> :<
[22:52] <fxd_> crwlr: I have ndiswrapper installed, that's not it
[22:52] <Breakage> nemilar: it says, "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[22:52] <fxd_> bkar: any help you cna offer?
[22:52] <nemilar> Breakage: were you able to mount the drive? did you need the command for that?
[22:52] <bkar> fxd_-> well see what we can troubleshoot, what you have done so far?
[22:53] <Breakage> nemilar: i tried "mount /dev/sda1"
[22:53] <TuxOtaku> !ubotu openvz
[22:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openvz - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:53] <nemilar> Breakage: try 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 [folder to mount to]'
[22:53] <Scunizi> makasd0, the packages you talked about don't have a gui,,, with the exception of konversation. Konversation should show up in the menu someplace. The others are configured at the command line by editing their config files. Try /join #ubuntu-server for more assistance.
[22:53] <nemilar> Breakage: you might need to do 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1....."
[22:53] <fxd_> bkar: i have followed a forum guide and from the terminal I have downloaded drivers and installed ndiswrapper but then I can't get the driver to install
[22:53] <nemilar> Breakage: to tell it the type (-t) is NTFS
[22:53] <Breakage> nemilar: i tried what folder should i mount to? i'd like the drive to be called HDD
[22:54] <bkar> fxd_-> what command you used to install the driver? and options if any?
[22:54] <ThipThip> nemilar:  I'm confused.  My fstab currently has: UUID=621C7C841C7C554F /media/sdb1 ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[22:54] <Breakage> nemilar: oops "i tried" was part of my last sentance
[22:54] <nemilar> Breakage: try: 'sudo mkdir /media/hdd && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1  /media/hdd'
[22:54] <bkar> just want to confirm, on 7.10 generic  LVM support is not native? has to compile the modules ?
[22:54] <fxd_> bkar: I am attempting this step: sudo ndiswrapper -i net8185.inf
[22:54] <Breakage> nemilar: ok will do. :)
[22:55] <jetscreamer> !search
[22:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about search - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:55] <nemilar> ThipThip: that's not all on one line, is it?
[22:55] <jetscreamer> \o/
[22:55] <makasd0> jetscreamer: thanks. apt-get -f install worked fine.
[22:55] <bkar> fxd_-> and the xxx.sys file is in same directory as that .inf file?
[22:55] <cchung_> is it dumb to have a dyndns hostname on the localhost line of a hosts file?
[22:55] <ThipThip> nemilar:  yes it is.
[22:55] <jetscreamer> np
[22:55] <McKayCR> I can't see my pop3 messages in evolution
[22:55] <rycole> wow, so many people in here it makes mirc freeze when joining. :P
[22:55] <Breakage> nemilar that worked thanks but now icon still doesn't show in thunar with mount unmount option.
[22:56] <scguy318> rycole: it does
[22:56] <nemilar> ThipThip: I don't think that's good
[22:56] <scguy318> rycole: Wine could use some work with DIB engine etc.
[22:56] <fxd_> bkar: yeah, the file is rtl8185.sys and it's in the same directory as net8185.inf
[22:56] <ThipThip> nemilar:  what shouldn't be there?
[22:56] <tales_2010> someone could help me with my sound card? it doesn't work!
[22:57] <bkar> fxd_-> and when you issued that ndiswrapper -i command what happens?
[22:57] <bkar> fxd_-> be back in 10 mins..haft to take care of stuff
[22:57] <nemilar> Breakage: yeah, it's mounted as root right now, so your normal user can't do it..run 'sudo umount /media/hdd' ; is the drive in your fstab?
[22:57] <fxd_> bkar: aaron@jean-pierre:/$ sudo ndiswrapper -i net8185.inf
[22:57] <fxd_> couldn't open net8185.inf: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 219.
[22:58] <McKayCR> can anyone assist me with my evolution mail problem?
[22:58] <nemilar> ThipThip: try changing the UUID=621C7C841C7C554F part to the /dev/[device]
[22:58] <nemilar> ThipThip: and see if that fixes it
[22:58] <PriceChild> nemilar, or the new uuid?
[22:58] <ljsmithx> Seveas, will I ever be unbanned?
[22:58] <PriceChild> ljsmithx, #ubuntu-ops
[22:58] <ThipThip> nemilar:  Seriously?  But all the entires in fstab begin with UUID=****
[22:58] <eshaase> whats the package name for the static and share versions of opera?
[22:59] <nemilar> ThipThip: no wait
[22:59] <nemilar> PriceChild: can you help ThipThip out with this?  you seem to have a better grasp of his setup
[22:59] <cchung_> McKayCR- what's going on?
[22:59] <Breakage> nemilar: tried "sudo fstab -l" said command not found
[22:59] <nemilar> Breakage: fstab is a file located at /etc/fstab
[22:59] <PriceChild> nemilar, no idea, just wasn't 100% comfortable with your advice unless it was to be temporary
[22:59] <McKayCR> cchung, my pop3 mail is getting downloaded but nothing is viewable in the message window
[23:00] <Breakage> nemilar: thanks, will check
[23:00] <eshaase> how can i tell if i have the static version of opera installed or the shared version?
[23:00] <nemilar> Breakage: so do 'cat /etc/fstab | grep sda1'
[23:00] <jtaylor> libgpod
[23:00] <nemilar> PriceChild: yeah I just wanted to see if it would let him mount it
[23:00] <Breakage> nemilar: nope not there
[23:00] <nemilar> Breakage: is this an internal or external?
[23:01] <Breakage> namilar: internal master drive
[23:01] <PriceChild> nemilar, external drives don't go into fstab
[23:01] <Logan428> Hi, I've got a problem with my installing
[23:01] <nemilar> PriceChild: my system put them in there for some reason
[23:01] <makasd0> what is the appropriate channel for linux and networking? my brother knows how to pick up packages that I send via the LAN, and he can change them into something else and send them. Also he can block so that my computer can't send or recieve any packages.
[23:01] <yoshi> Does anyone know if I can install ubuntu through the terminal from the live CD. The graphical installer is not working.
[23:02] <nemilar> PriceChild: I think NTFS config rewrote my fstab with my external drive in it
[23:02] <makasd0> it's pretty annoying, and I just want to know how I can stop that. Since he know's what I am writing here, at the msn, which homepages I visit and what my passwords are etc. so which is the appropriate channel?
[23:02] <broli> in 7.10 , why gdm is not using my xorg.conf ?
[23:03] <Lake-in-the-hill> show mode
[23:04] <broli> my screens gets like if i where trying to use a higer refresh rate, but i boot on safe mode, change the xorg.conf, reboot again and there it goes gdm not doing what i spected
[23:04] <Logan428> I'm kinda stuck with a broken operating system and an Ubuntu CD (Feisty), but the CD won't give me write privileges to either hard drive (internal and USB external), and I need to shift some files so I have enough space to throw Ubuntu on
[23:04]  * ThipThip is worried over the sudden inability to mount a very important partition after trying in vain to change the permissions on it.
[23:04] <administrator> hallo
[23:05] <Scunizi> anyone know if I need smbfs to get samba working between win2k & xp
[23:05] <frustrated_ubunt> hi I just got a new logitech diNovo Keyboard
[23:05] <frojnd> couldn't find package pysqlite how can I search for dependencies ?
[23:05] <frustrated_ubunt> and unable to get it to work
[23:05] <Slart> makasd0: use https for web.. I think that makes things a bit harder.. then kick him in the groin.. hard to do anything when he only has one computer to look at
[23:05] <ThipThip> What causes a partition to or not to be listed with the command dmesg | egrep "hd|sd" ?
[23:06] <ThipThip> Sorry, I meant What causes a partition to or not to be listed with the command ls /dev/disk/by-uuid -alh?
[23:06] <Slart> makasd0: either you hide what you're doing or you do lots of things so the important stuff gets lost in the flood..
[23:06] <frustrated_ubunt> anyone use this before
[23:06] <josiah> is there a way to to set all subdirectories in a directory to view as list? so that I dont have to click view -> view as list in each and every directory?
[23:06] <Scunizi> ThipThip, try blkid.. I know it doesn't answer you question but it will give results.
[23:07] <ThipThip> scunizi:  blkid does not list the partition in question.
[23:07] <Scunizi> ThipThip, does the partition have data?
[23:07] <makasd0> Slart: well that's not really solving anything. I don't really complain about it to him, and I wont harm him physically, but it's sort of a war. Who's the better one (= I just want to win this by not letting him see what I am doing at all. Protect myself, that is.
[23:07] <ThipThip> scunizi:  sure does.  About 270GB worth.
[23:08] <aquo> hi, can anybody give me a comment on the mixed use of aptitude, update-manager, update-notifier, synaptic and apt?
[23:08] <Scunizi> ThipThip, and you can't get to it? or are you just trying to find out what the syntax error is in the line you mentioned?
[23:08] <makasd0> Slart: it's not like he is looking all the time, and most of the time, I sit beside him with my computer. We have both laptops. So do you know any good channel?
[23:08] <Seveas> aquo, what kind of comment?
[23:08] <aquo> the cron-job updates package-list with apt-get
[23:09] <Slart> makasd0: nope.. I have no good suggestions for channels.. I'd start with google
[23:09] <ThipThip> scunizi:  I cannot get to it.  I tried to change the permissions on it, not realizing that I needed to do that in fstab.
[23:09] <Rambaldo> hello everyone
[23:09] <viv145> 123
[23:09] <josiah> hello
[23:09] <administrator> hello
[23:09] <viv145> josiah:hello
[23:10] <Logan428> I have no write-permissions and no OS (running off a Feisty CD) and I need write permissions so I can get rid of some files on my main HD and get space for an install
[23:10] <makasd0> Slart: yes I figured google. Any suggestions for keyword to look for? (: tell me if I am wasting your time.
[23:10] <Rambaldo> has anybody time to answer one simple question please?
[23:10] <Scunizi> ThipThip, is it sata or ide and does it have its own channel (ide)?
[23:10] <viv145> ide
[23:10] <Seveas> !anybody | Rambaldo
[23:10] <ubotu> Rambaldo: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[23:10] <Slart> makasd0: wasting my time? if I didn't want it wasted I wouldn't be sitting here =)
[23:10] <Seveas> Slart, :)
[23:10] <makasd0> Slart: :D:D:D
[23:10] <ThipThip> scunizi:  It is sata.
[23:10] <cchung_> McKayCR- make sure you're in the inbox, clear any filters, and you might want to watch what happens to other folders count going up when you check mail
[23:10] <Rambaldo> how do I run gmail notify automatically on startup?
[23:11] <Optamisstec> I downloaded ubuntu, using browsers, but when I am on the internet, the page fades to gray and freezes every time, nothing helps
[23:11] <Slart> makasd0: anonymous proxy is one thing to search for.. there are services you pay for and there's services that are free..
[23:11] <Seveas> Rambaldo, add it to the startup programs in system -> preferences -> sessions
[23:11] <Scunizi> ThipThip, and is it the only drive in the machine?
[23:11] <Rambaldo> I read it's under sessions-->startup programs, but then I do not know what command to write
[23:11] <viv145> can i use ubuntu or fedora in my celeron 512 mHz with 190mb ram?
[23:11] <administrator> is er geen nederlandse room??
[23:11] <ThipThip> scunizi:  No.  It is one of two drives.  The drive has two partitions, the smaller of which is my linux filesystem, which I'm using right now.
[23:11] <astro76> Rambaldo: the command is simply gmail-notify
[23:11] <lusepuster> hey folks; I'm running Gutsy and Mercury complains it doesn't run on blackdown java - I thought SUN java was the default on Ubuntu?
[23:11] <Seveas> !nl | administrator
[23:11] <ubotu> administrator: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[23:12] <administrator> oke dan
[23:12] <Rambaldo> thanks a lot
[23:12] <Rambaldo> :)
[23:12] <Slart> makasd0: if I were in your position I'd look into tunneling my traffic to a friend.. then you can encrypt that and all your traffic seems to just go to your friend..
[23:12] <administrator> super thanks
[23:12] <viv145> can i use ubuntu or fedora in my celeron 512 mHz with 190mb ram?
[23:12] <Seveas> Slart, makasd0: openvpn does what Slart suggests :)
[23:13] <Scunizi> ThipThip, so let me make sure I understand. This drive you can't read the partition on is the same drive that has your functional linux install?
[23:13] <Seveas> viv145, you can use either
[23:13] <viv145> so, how can i install it?
[23:13] <Slart> makasd0: ah.. there's another good keyword... openvpn.. there are clients for windows/linux etc
[23:13] <Seveas> !install | viv145
[23:13] <ubotu> viv145: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[23:13] <jimmygoon> If I installed the "ADOBE" Reader will I be able to fill in the "interactive" pdf forms?
[23:13] <ThipThip> scunizi:  precisely.
[23:13] <Optamisstec> I am not technical ok, I am a 64 yr old woman who made  a  cd and am beginning to use ubuntu and my browsers freeze and the page turns gray every time I go anywhere using which ever browser, it does not matter, then I have to shut it down
[23:13] <Seveas> jimmygoon, yes -- and iirc the latest versions of evince can do that too
[23:13] <Scunizi> jimmygoon, should be able to do that most of the time in Document Viewer as well.
[23:14] <fxd_> bkar: well, now I've got to take care of stuff, if you get back on and see this, I should probably only be 5 minutes
[23:14] <Scunizi> ThipThip, have you tried "mount -a"
[23:14] <viv145> the 70s doesnt exist
[23:14] <bkar> fxd_-> issue that command where the inf file is or... put the full paht
[23:14] <lgc> Hi. Is it easy to install Windows with VMware?
[23:14] <bkar> fxd_ actually i have to get off again..be back later
[23:14] <Optamisstec> I am not here for fun ok
[23:14] <ThipThip> scunizi: Failed to access '/dev/disk/by-uuid/621C7C841C7C554F': No such file or directory
[23:14] <Seveas> lgc, yes, put the windows cd in the drive, start the vm and use it like a normal pc
[23:15] <pgr> i've installed apache2 + php and php5-mysql, but cant access MySQL from PHP, maybe because MySQL isnt installed from apt. How can I configure apache and php to work with it?
[23:15] <viv145> those os are easy to use?
[23:15] <Optamisstec> do I have to make an appointment here
[23:15] <Scunizi> ThipThip, starting to sound like you have a line in fstab for this drive with the wrong uuid #.  Might try commenting out the line in fstab dealing with this drive and try mount -a again.
[23:15] <lgc> Seveas, you mean it's not installed?
[23:16] <Seveas> !patience | Optamisstec
[23:16] <tales_2010> PLEASE COULD SOMEONE HELP ME WITH MY SOUND CARD I'VE ALREADY READ THE FORUM AND I COULDN'T FIND ANY SOLUTION!!!!!!!!!
[23:16] <ubotu> Optamisstec: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[23:16] <Optamisstec> lol
[23:16] <Optamisstec> the volunteers though are smart... us old ladies are not as fast on our clickers
[23:16] <Optamisstec> lol
[23:16] <ThipThip> scunizi:  Where does a uuid come from?
[23:16] <jimmygoon> Seveas, Scunizi thank you
[23:16] <Seveas> Optamisstec, I don't belive for a second that you're an old lady
[23:16] <tales_2010> so please, someone could help me?
[23:17] <ThipThip> scunizi:  What does mount -a do?  I tried commenting it out but mount -a doesn't do anything.
[23:17] <Scunizi> ThipThip, when you did the install ubuntu assigned a uuid # to the drive/partition based on some type of query/response from the drive.
[23:17] <Scunizi> ThipThip, now try blkid
[23:17] <grody> mounts everything in /etc/fstab  ThipThip
[23:18] <benanzo> ThipThip: 'mount -a' will mount everything listed in /etc/fstab
[23:18] <administrator> hee dennis even een vraagje op #ubunto-nl
[23:18] <lgc> Seveas, you there?
[23:18] <Logan428> I have no write-permissions and no OS (running off a Feisty CD) and I need write permissions so I can get rid of some files on my main HD and get space for an install
[23:18] <ThipThip> scunizi:  blkid still does not list the partition
[23:18] <makasd0> Slart: thanks. I was away. Well proxy is one thing, and openvpn. But the proxy...hmm...since we are at LAN, he can still block my packets to the proxy, can he not?
[23:18] <Seveas> lgc, no, here :)
[23:18] <lusepuster> tales_2010, explain yur problem, otherwise ppl won't know if they can help. Please tell which vendor and model, and so on
[23:18] <grody> Logan428, is a NTFS partition?
[23:18] <Logan428> Yeah
[23:18] <grody> then you're buggered
[23:18] <Logan428> Damnit
[23:18] <grody> unless you use ntfs-ng
[23:18] <Seveas> grody, 3g ;)
[23:19] <bunowa16> h
[23:19] <grody> 3g :)
[23:19] <Seveas> which ubuntu can do OOTB as of gutsy
[23:19] <Logan428> ntfs-ng?
[23:19] <grody> ntfs-3g sorry
[23:19] <Scunizi> ThipThip, can you paste your fstab to pastebin?
[23:19] <grody> so you can write to ntfs streams
[23:19] <benanzo> 'sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g' while in the LiveCD
[23:19] <Scunizi> ThipThip, then post the link here.
[23:19] <Logan428> OK, thanks, I'm gonna try that now
[23:19] <Slart> makasd0: sure he can block you.. not a lot you can about that
[23:20] <neeto> for some reason, the mozilla-mplayer plugin doesn't show it's controls, and when I try to play a video, it never plays.
[23:20] <lgc> Seveas, I see.... I am not sure if you're implying that Windows is used like a live CD.
[23:20] <Slart> makasd0: unless you find an internet connection of your own
[23:20] <benanzo> Logan428: you'll need to remount the NTFS partition after it's installed
[23:20] <Logan428> benanzo: OK
[23:20] <ThipThip> scunizi:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53392/
[23:20] <makasd0> Slart: true. Since we are at LAN, he can freely pick up my net-packets and do whatever he likes with them before he sends them away again. (:
[23:20] <Seveas> lgc, it's not -- the virtual machine stores your installed windows on the disk and you don't need the CD after installing. For more help with windows: /msg ubotu windows
[23:20] <Scunizi> ThipThip, thanks.. let me gander for a sec.
[23:21] <Optamisstec> just for review sake, the screen is moving so here goes, I am 64, I downloaded ubuntu, on my dells win xp, made a cd and no matter what browser I use, the pages fade out and freeze and the address bar blinks and pages jump... and I am old... 64,, you guys dont even know how smart you are and fast
[23:21] <makasd0> Slart: sometimes what I write at the msn to someone is not the same as they got it :D:D:D
[23:21] <benanzo> I'm not sure, but I think it requires root to write to the disk -- 'gksudo nautilus'  should give you access
[23:21] <Slart> makasd0: yes.. but if you're encrypting your traffic he won't know what to do with it..
[23:21] <Logan428> benanzo: It says "couldn't find package"
[23:21] <ThipThip> scunizi:  I'm very new to ubuntu, but itching to learn.  If there's anything you can point out that will help me not only fix but understand this problem, I'd much appreciate it.l
[23:21] <benanzo> You need to enable the repo
[23:21] <lusepuster> hey folks; I'm running Gutsy and Mercury complains it doesn't run on blackdown java - I thought SUN java was the default on Ubuntu?
[23:21] <Slart> makasd0: try to find a msn client that supports some kind of encryption.. don't know if there are any..
[23:22] <Scunizi> ThipThip, working on it :)
[23:22] <soumn> i have problems with snd-hda-intel + alsa... someone could help?
[23:22] <tales_2010> when i installed ubuntu, my soundboard was working, i could listen to music and so on, but there was a hiss with the sound, then it stopped working suddenly, my soundboard is -> card 0: VT82xx [HDA VIA VT82xx], device 1: AD198x Digital [AD198x Digital]
[23:22] <Seveas> lusepuster, it's not since it's non-free
[23:22] <Logan428> Benanzo: repo? (Sorry, I'm kinda new and wasn't hoping that it would all mess up)
[23:22] <Scunizi> ThipThip, so one of your drives is just one large fat32 drive?
[23:22] <makasd0> Slart: since he is using lame programs...the encryption wont work. He deciphers it and well...since he knows my passwords too (=
[23:22] <ThipThip> scunizi:  Yep.
[23:22] <lgc> Seveas, do you happen to know if the 'Windows Rescue CD' from Dell has the full OS in it?
[23:22] <benanzo> go to Software Sources in the admin menu and enable all the sources on the Ubuntu Software tab
[23:23] <makasd0> Slart: the thing is that he picks up my network traffic.
[23:23] <Slart> makasd0: change them then
[23:23] <ThipThip> scunizi:  That one is IDE.  The other is SATA and NTFS.
[23:23] <Slart> makasd0: change them from the library or sometihng
[23:23] <benanzo> then it will reload the index and you should find it
[23:23] <jadan> does anyone  know why my synaptic mangager & update manager has quit working
[23:23] <Seveas> lgc, no idea
[23:23] <lusepuster> Seveas, Oh I thought they had freed it completely... Still, I have the sun-java-jre6 installed, what else would a java app need to run?
[23:23] <Scunizi> ThipThip, an NTFT... that was going to be my other question.
[23:23] <Seveas> lusepuster, they're still working on that
[23:23] <Seveas> lusepuster, you might need to run update-java-alternatives
[23:23] <jonathan__> Hey is somebody speak french ?
[23:23] <ThipThip> scunizi:  I don't know what NTFT is.
[23:23] <Logan428> benanzo: Thanks, just doing that now
[23:23] <soumn> i have problems with snd-hda-intel + alsa... someone could help? (snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device )
[23:23] <benanzo> OK
[23:24] <Seveas> !fr | jonathan__
[23:24] <ubotu> jonathan__: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[23:24] <tales_2010> when i installed ubuntu, my soundboard was working, i could listen to music and so on, but there was a hiss with the sound, then it stopped working suddenly, my soundboard is -> card 0: VT82xx [HDA VIA VT82xx], device 1: AD198x Digital [AD198x Digital]
[23:24] <Scunizi> ThipThip, sorry ntfs.. sticky fingers.
[23:24] <lgc> Seveas, thanks.
[23:24] <tales_2010> someone can help me with that issue?
[23:24] <ThipThip> scunizi:  Oh.  Well what do you want to know about it?
[23:24] <lusepuster> tales_2010, I can't answer you on that one, sorry. You're sure it's not a hardware issue?
[23:24] <soumn> i have problems with HDA INTEL + als... someone could help? (snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device )
[23:25] <Scunizi> ThipThip, nothing .. working on making fstab changes to paste to you..
[23:25] <soumn> i have problems with HDA INTEL + ALSA... someone could help? (snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device )
[23:25] <Seveas> !repeat | soumn
[23:25] <ubotu> soumn: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[23:25] <bunowa16> ho
[23:25] <Seveas> ha
[23:25] <bunowa16> c'est un peu complex irc
[23:26] <tales_2010> lusepuster: no it works on windows
[23:26] <Seveas> !fr | bunowa16
[23:26] <LjL> bunowa16: /join #ubuntu-fr
[23:26] <ubotu> bunowa16: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[23:26] <Alyxander> soumn, when you get that error what are you using?
[23:26] <lusepuster> Seveas, sun-java-alternatives with what arguments?
[23:26] <bunowa16> complexe
[23:26] <bunowa16> c'est pas le mot
[23:26] <soumn> Alyxander, alsamixer
[23:26] <Scunizi> ThipThip, here's the link.. don't know if it will work or not. but it's the older method of assigning a drive.  Make a backup of your current fstab.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/53393/
[23:26] <Seveas> lusepuster, sudo update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun
[23:26] <PriceChild> !fr | bunowa16
[23:26] <ubotu> bunowa16: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[23:27] <Alyxander> soumn, alsa itself is telling you that or the application your using?
[23:27] <LjL> bunowa16, it's not a matter of IRC being masculing or feminine... it's a matter of this channel being in english
[23:27] <bunowa16> thanks
[23:27] <lusepuster> Seveas, thanx I'll try
[23:27] <benanzo> Logan428: as an alternative if ntfs-3g doesn't work, just install 'ntfs-config' which will add an item to Applications -> System Tools -> NTFS Configuration Tool
[23:27] <soumn> Alyxander, i think it is alsa.... I just typed alsamixer in a terminal and i got that
[23:27] <benanzo> then you can enable NTFS write support for the internal disk
[23:27] <McKayCR> where can I download Xubuntu for powerpc
[23:28] <Seveas> McKayCR, http://ports.ubuntu.com
[23:28] <ThipThip> scunizi:  Why give sdb1 the /dev/sdb setting and all the rest the uuid?
[23:28] <Alyxander> open gnome volume control soumn
[23:28] <Logan428> benanzo: I'm just remounting the drives now
[23:28] <benanzo> OK
[23:28] <lusepuster> Seveas, yay! that worked! thanks a bunch!
[23:28] <Seveas> McKayCR, actually, not there... hang on
[23:28] <Alyxander> in the terminal type gnome-volume-control soumn
[23:28] <Seveas> McKayCR, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/7.10/release/
[23:28] <Scunizi> ThipThip, it's the older way of assigning a drive.. in Dapper LTS 6.06 before they started using uuid.  It should still work.  After making the change you'll have to "mount -a"
[23:29] <McKayCR> Seveas, I need version 6.04
[23:29] <McKayCR> Seveas - actually 6.06
[23:29] <Logan428> benanzo: Just remounted, and it still says no write permissions
[23:29] <ThipThip> scunizi:  mount -a gives me this:  The device '/dev/sdb1' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[23:29] <ThipThip> Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a
[23:29] <ThipThip> partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?
[23:29] <benanzo> try as root
[23:29] <Seveas> McKayCR, back then ppc was still supported
[23:29] <benanzo> gksudo nautilus
[23:29] <benanzo> to open the filebrowser as root
[23:29] <Scunizi> ThipThip, ok.. does that partition have windows on it?
[23:30] <McKayCR> Seveas - I found it
[23:30] <Seveas> McKayCR, but xubuntu not :)
[23:30] <Seveas> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/6.06/
[23:30] <ThipThip> scunizi:  Let's go with.... no.  Yes it does but the windows, volume, and program files folders are moved to a folder called "old"
[23:30] <PKdoR> how can I unmount a drive in the terminal
[23:31] <benanzo> umount /dev/sdaX
[23:31] <benanzo> replace X with the partition number
[23:31] <ThipThip> scunizi:  How can I get ubuntu to issue a uuid to the drive the same way it did during installation?  Everything was working absolutely fine until I tried to change the permissions for this drive.
[23:31] <benanzo> or the mount point
[23:31] <benanzo> umount /media/usbdisk
[23:31] <benanzo> for instance
[23:31] <PKdoR> benanzo: it has to be Sudo-ed right?
[23:31] <Scunizi> ThipThip, ok..what did you do to mess with the partitions.. change something in fstab?
[23:32] <benanzo> Yes, if the drive is not mounted with the 'user' option
[23:32] <benanzo> sudo umount /media/usbdisk
[23:32] <ThipThip> scunizi:  No.  I logged on as root, right-clicked, and went to "permissions"
[23:32] <benanzo> or if it was someone other than the user who mounted it in the first place
[23:32] <rolf> IS
[23:32] <rolf> Name of the partner: InterSoft, a. s.
[23:32] <rolf> 00000 City, Country: 04001 Kosice, Slovakia
[23:32] <rolf> Name of account holder: InterSoft, a. s.
[23:32] <rolf> Bank: Tatra banka, a. s.
[23:32] <FloodBot1> rolf: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:32] <rolf> Address: Sturova 28, 040 01 Kosice, Slovakia
[23:32] <Chafka> hi i want to auto mount my disks c and d (windows) c is fat32 and d ntfs how can i do that ??
[23:32] <Scunizi> ThipThip, have you tried to reverse what you did?
[23:32] <PKdoR> benanzo: many thanks my brotha
[23:32] <McKayCR> Seveas - thanks.  the reason why i need 6.06 is because if I try installing anything higher, it wont install right, but if i start at 6.06 and then use update manager, I can slowly upgrade to 7.10
[23:33] <benanzo> No Prob
[23:33] <rolf> damn mouse
[23:33] <McKayCR> Seveas - and I need xubuntu because regular ubuntu is using too much cpu on my powerbook g4
[23:33] <ThipThip> scunizi:  Yes I did.
[23:33] <Logan428> benanzo: Still states no write permissions (this is while using gksudo nautilius to open as root)
[23:34] <benanzo> OK, the ntfs-3g driver isn't being used then
[23:34] <Chafka> i want to automount my disks c and d (windows) c is fat32 and d ntfs how can i do that ?? plZ help me!!
[23:34] <bmt2> hello to all
[23:34] <Scunizi> ThipThip, stupid question.. have you tried just rebooting?
[23:34] <benanzo> do: 'sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdaX /mnt/NTFSDrive'
[23:34] <soumn_pwned> Alyxander, hi... my connection had a problem.. did u say anyting/?
[23:34] <benanzo> make sure /mnt/NTFSDrive exists first
[23:35] <Alyxander> in the terminal type gnome-volume-control soumn
[23:35] <bmt2> has anyone in here successfully converted a DVD to their PSP thru linux...if so ..what steps did you take ?
[23:35] <Alyxander> open gnome volume control soumn
[23:35] <Scunizi> ThipThip, check out the line below my last post.. benanzo has a suggestion
[23:35] <ThipThip> scunizi: you know what.   I have not.
[23:35] <benanzo> create it with: 'sudo mkdir /mnt/NTFSDrive'
[23:35] <ThipThip> ....wait, let me try rebooting.
[23:35] <ThipThip> brb
[23:35] <soumn_pwned> Alyxander, No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[23:35] <Shpook> Is there an easy way to setup a wireless network with another windows computer? I only need to be able to access the file on the windows machine, not the other way around. I tried one method for setting up samba, but it's causing the wireless to not work.
[23:35] <soumn_pwned> Alyxander, i compiled the last alsa (driver, lib and utils) version
[23:36] <soumn_pwned> Alyxander, it was working b4 with old alsa .. but my headphone jacks werent working... on ubuntu forums i saw people who compiled new version of alsa and got everything working fine...
[23:36] <soumn_pwned>  Alyxander, but I get this error
[23:36] <Scunizi> thipok
[23:36] <crimsun> soumn_pwned: pastebin `lspci -nv`
[23:36] <crimsun> soumn_pwned: then tell me the url
[23:36] <to0om> hi all
[23:37] <bkar> Shpook-> are you going through an AP?
[23:37] <bmt2> has anyone in here successfully converted a DVD to their PSP thru linux...if so ..what steps did you take ?
[23:37] <Chafka> benanzo, mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-3g'
[23:37] <Chafka>  :S
[23:37] <benanzo> try just 'ntfs'
[23:37] <Logan428> benanzo: It says that the LogFile is unclean, and gives me a load of fixes, most of which involve booting Windoze
[23:37] <danonura> if i go to nasa tv:://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html, when it starts playing the image is not in viewer it is half way off screen running out of bottom of monitor
[23:37] <benanzo> Logan did it mount OK with that command?
[23:38] <Alyxander> roll back to the old driver soumn and then try to turn on your headphones with gnome volume control
[23:38] <to0om> i've got a question: i have the following line in my /etc/fstab: UUID=5ccbe117-6b8a-466c-93de-01dc86910731 /home ext3 defaults 0 0     i have 'pass' set to 0 because i don't want the file system to be checked at boot. but when pass is set to 0, the device isn't automatically mountet at boot, this only works with pass set to a number greater than 0. so what if i want the filesystem to be not checked but to be automatically mountet at boot?
[23:38] <Chafka> benanzo, nothing :S
[23:38] <Logan428> See my above message ;)
[23:38] <Chafka> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,