[00:01] <badbodh> oi
[00:01] <fantasma> oi
[00:02] <fantasma> oi
[00:02] <fantasma> hi
[00:02] <lapinozz> ho
[00:02] <lapinozz> hi
[00:02] <lapinozz> ho
[00:02] <lapinozz> off to work we go!
[00:03] <daftykins> drop it and ask a support question or find another network :)
[00:04] <lapinozz> is there a way my program could be notified when a new window is open?
[00:04] <daftykins> that sounds like a dev question
[00:04] <lapinozz> right
[00:05] <lapinozz> where should i ask?
[00:05] <daftykins> no idea. ask alis
[00:06] <lapinozz> alis?
[00:08] <daftykins> !alis
[00:09] <ejuan> I've got dependency problems in apt-get. I had a full /boot partition that caused this problem. I used dpkg to remove a bunch of old kernel and header packages but I still cannot get it to purge the linux header package linux-headers-3.2.0-90-generic that its hung up on. how do I fix this?
[00:10] <daftykins> ejuan: show it in a pastebin first
[00:10] <wzx> hello
[00:11] <Bashing-om> ejuan: Show in a paste the results of terminal commands ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get -f install '. We see then what we can do .
[00:13] <ejuan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12403700/
[00:13] <parovaya> ау русские есть йопта
[00:14] <ejuan> ubuntu 12.04 btw
[00:14] <parovaya> ау нахуй
[00:14] <parovaya> русские есть?
[00:14] <daftykins> !ru
[00:14] <parovaya> да ты шо
[00:14] <parovaya> в ру чанеле
[00:14] <parovaya> никто
[00:15] <parovaya> мне не отвечает
[00:15] <parovaya> пидарок
[00:15] <parovaya> кстати если
[00:15] <parovaya> че
[00:15] <parovaya> все
[00:15] <parovaya> предъвы к светке
[00:15] <parovaya> пс рушин чанила
[00:15] <parovaya> нехуя
[00:16] <parovaya> кикать было меня
[00:16] <daftykins> parovaya: english only. stop it.
[00:16] <parovaya> а то че
[00:16] <parovaya> забанишь
[00:16] <parovaya> пидар
[00:16] <parovaya> ?
[00:16] <parovaya> видали и таких
[00:16] <parovaya> это все что ты мжешь
[00:16] <parovaya> бана дать
[00:16] <parovaya> а по
[00:16] <parovaya> сути
[00:16] <parovaya> ты
[00:16] <parovaya> тупо
[00:16] <parovaya> калл
[00:17] <daftykins> haha.
[00:17] <Bashing-om> ejuan: Let's see what results ' sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic ' .
[00:18] <bmsr256> hey ppl, when ubuntu will have the dodge window function again?
[00:18] <wzx> yes
[00:20] <ejuan> Bashing-om, no help http://paste.ubuntu.com/12403817/
[00:22] <bmsr256> someone there
[00:22] <Bashing-om> ejuan: K; .., let's see what is installed and then try and remove the -85 kernel. post ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[00:25] <ejuan> Bashing-om, I've already removed the all kernels and headers I could, I'm running 3.2.0-84. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12403925/
[00:28] <Bashing-om> ejuan: "iU  linux-image-generic " 2 problems, the status 'iu' and we have to have tht version same as the latest kernel . let's try ' sudo apt-get remove linux-image-generic ; sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic ' .
[00:31] <ejuan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12404059/
[00:40] <jcg> hola
[00:40] <Bashing-om> ejuan: Shucks, OK, let's give the package manager what it wants ' sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-85-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-85-generic linux-headers-3.2.0-85 ' .
[00:41] <ejuan> Bashing-om, still same error message
[00:43] <Bashing-om> ejuan: (??) Maybe try as '  sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-3.2.0-85-generic ' .
[00:43] <ejuan> same error
[00:44] <daftykins> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a" ?
[00:44] <daftykins> i'd probably ditch those meta packages then reconfigure / purge the ones being awkward
[00:44] <ubuntu-studio> my audio pack is broken. I am on ubuntu studio
[00:45] <badbodh> ejuan: what did you do prior to this error ? any relevant install/uninstall
[00:46] <ejuan> I had a full /boot partition
[00:46] <badbodh> so you removed some older kernels ?
[00:46] <ejuan> I then removed linux image and header packages with dpkg to free up space on e /boot
[00:47] <ubuntu-studio> how do I fix broken packages?
[00:47] <machicola> how do i open up bash
[00:47] <badbodh> you just have to remove linux-image-<some numbers>-generic packages, they are the ones with actual image
[00:47] <CupricReki> My gitlab configuration is bundled with nginx and it's redirecting http requests and I can't find that configurations to change that
[00:47] <CupricReki> any insights?
[00:48] <Bashing-om> ejuan: Nothing wrong with trying to reconfigure, if that fails we can get real dirty ( package manager is broke anyway ) and then fix the package manager .
[00:48] <badbodh> ejuan: what is the result of daftykins' command ?
[00:49] <ejuan> badbodh, i didnt run -a but i did try just the linux image and header packages and got this message : /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: linux-image-generic is broken or not fully installed
[00:51] <badbodh> ejuan: you should add/remove stuff using apt-get not dpkg. dpkg probably doesn't do the dependency-resolve thingy like apt
[00:51] <badbodh> breaks system
[00:51] <ejuan> I would have used apt-get but in its current state its unusable
[00:51] <badbodh> ejuan: to fix it , first run "dpkg-reconfigure -a" followed by "apt-get install -f" , with sudo of course
[00:53] <badbodh> ejuan: whatever output/error message pops up, pastebin it
[00:53] <ejuan> k
[00:54] <ejuan> its an old dual core opteron so this might take a while
[00:55] <ejuan> same error http://paste.ubuntu.com/12404257/
[00:56] <ejuan> no output from dpkg-reconfigure
[00:57] <badbodh> ejuan: no output means it's good on dpkg's part, no incomplete  install, only broken packages.
[00:59] <badbodh> ejuan: run "sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-85-generic" and show the output
[00:59] <ejuan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12404297/
[01:00] <badbodh> ejuan: run "sudo apt-get install linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>.104-generic" and show the output
[01:01] <ejuan> E: Unable to locate package linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>.104-generic
[01:01] <fantasma> ola
[01:02] <fantasma> aquela porra de steam  ,, tem que pagar pra tudo
[01:02] <fantasma> dai nao da
[01:02] <ejuan> is there any where that has the linux header  <IP_ADDRESS>.99  deb file?
[01:02] <fantasma> esssa porra
[01:02] <ejuan> i can only find  <IP_ADDRESS>.122
[01:02] <badbodh> ejuan: do "apt-cache search linux-image|pastebinit"
[01:02] <bazhang> !steam | its in english fantasma
[01:03] <badbodh> bazhang: this guy is blabbering on  mint channels too. a kick full of love shouldn't hurt.
[01:03] <ejuan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12404335/
[01:06] <badbodh> ejuan: run "sudo apt-get install linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>-generic" and show the output
[01:06] <badbodh> didn't need the .104 part in previous command
[01:07] <ejuan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12404403/
[01:08] <badbodh> ejuan: run "sudo apt-get purge linux-generic linux-image-generic"
[01:08] <badbodh> ejuan: before pressing Yes, show the output first
[01:09] <ejuan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12404451/
[01:10] <badbodh> ejuan: hit it
[01:10] <badbodh> :)
[01:10] <ejuan> no errors
[01:10] <ejuan> reinstall them?
[01:11] <badbodh> ejuan: not yet.
[01:11] <badbodh> first run "apt-get update"  and "apt-get upgrade"
[01:12] <badbodh> in -upgrade part, show the output before Yes-ing
[01:12] <ejuan> sorry i jumped ahead of you
[01:12] <ejuan> but it did work
[01:12] <Sachiru> Query: Assume that I have a 240GB SSD (256GB, 16 GB reserved space for overprovisioning). Is there any way for me to manually *increase* the overprovisioning to something like 128GB (so that I am left with a 128GB drive with 128GB of reserved space for overprovisioning/write leveling) under Ubuntu?
[01:12] <ejuan> i reinstalled them then did update and then upgrade
[01:12] <ejuan> looks to be working great now
[01:13] <badbodh> ejuan: ok all's good then
[01:13] <MrElendig> Sachiru: doesn't make much sense
[01:13] <badbodh> ejuan: just for nitpickyness, run "apt-get install -f" once
[01:13] <badbodh> after the commands you run finish that is
[01:14] <Bashing-om> !cookie | badbodh
[01:14] <ejuan> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:14] <ejuan> looks good to me
[01:14] <badbodh> me too
[01:14] <badbodh> have fun and don;t just remove stuff randomly in future
[01:14] <ejuan> thanks badbodh and Bashing-om
[01:15] <badbodh> always use synaptic or software center
[01:15] <ejuan> no x11
[01:15] <badbodh> !cookie | Bashing-om
[01:15] <badbodh> ejuan: oh, lol
[01:15] <Sachiru> MrElendig, the workload I will subject the drive to is very write heavy.
[01:15] <Sachiru> Thus I am willing to sacrifice 50% of capacity if it means that I get relatively stable write speed/iops thanks to wear leveling.
[01:16] <MrElendig> just don't fill it to 100%
[01:16] <MrElendig> and the controller should take care of the rest
[01:16] <Bashing-om> ejuan: The state is rc, the package is removed, but the config files are not removed . While there is no built in way to remove all of your configuration information from your removed packages you can remove all configuration data from every removed package ; ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' .
[01:16] <MrElendig> Sachiru: also a typical ssd, even consumer grade, can handle a petabyte of writes
[01:17] <a7ndrew> Sachiru if it was me, I'd either only create a partition 128GB or if using LVM only create logical volumes up to that capacity
[01:17] <Bashing-om> badbodh: :) . chocolate chip, no less .
[01:17] <MrElendig> Sachiru: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/03/consumer-ssds-benchmarked-to-death-and-last-far-longer-than-rated/
[01:18]  * badbodh hides raisins in cookies
[01:18] <MrElendig> Sachiru: ofcourse if this is data you actually care about then do raid1 with hotspare
[01:18] <MrElendig> and backups
[01:19] <Sachiru> Yes, I know that a drive's lifespan is in the petabytes.
[01:19] <Sachiru> I am referring to a drive's write speeds.
[01:19] <badbodh> Bashing-om: cut -d " " -f 3 | <~what does this part do ?
[01:20] <Bashing-om> badbodh: parses the 3rd field for 'rc' .
[01:20] <Sachiru> Reserved area's TRIM is handled by the disk's garbage collection algorithms, and the filesystem I am planning to partition the drive with is not yet capable of TRIM, hence the desire to increase overprovisioning area to maintain write IOPS performance.
[01:20] <badbodh> ok
[01:21] <MrElendig> Sachiru: uhm manual trim works with pretty much all filesystems
[01:21] <Sachiru> Not with ZFS.
[01:21] <MrElendig> Sachiru: you generally do not want to enable discard
[01:21] <MrElendig> ewww zfs
[01:22] <Bashing-om> badbodh: Pretty neat little routine, has gone through a few re-generations over the years .
[01:22] <ejuan> Bashing-om, I ran that command, looks like it cleaned up my dpkg list nicely
[01:22] <Sachiru> Anyhow, found what I need here: https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/SSD_Over-provisioning_using_hdparm
[01:22] <Sachiru> Thanks anyway guys.
[01:23] <Bashing-om> ejuan: Yeah .. now if ya do ' dpkg -l | grep linux ' all nice and clean ( and package manager in a happier state ) .
[01:28] <Sachiru> Just curious, MrElendig, why do you say "ewww zfs"?
[01:29] <MrElendig> Sachiru: badly maintained out of tree driver, with a evil license
[01:29] <Apteryx> I'm connecting to VNC using SSH, and for some reason the image does not refresh! Any idea as to why? Server is Vino on Ubunt 15.04, client is Remmina on Ubuntu 14.04
[01:29] <MrElendig> Sachiru: and in several ways inferiour to btrfs
[01:31] <Apteryx> The only info provided by Vino seems to be: http://fpaste.org/266757/19424914/
[01:32] <Apteryx> Seems like it doesn't like some of the encoding being used, but these are "Normal messages" so I guess this is not the problem?
[01:39] <Sachiru> MrElendig, I see. I wonder why Ubuntu is working on making ZFS as root FS for their default installer an option, then, if the driver is so bad.
[01:40] <MrElendig> Sachiru: because canonical does silly things all the time
[01:41] <MrElendig> Sachiru: like "Hey, here is a perfectly good, existing, working thing that pretty much everyone uses, should we use it? heck no, lets invent our own competing solution!"
[01:41] <Sachiru> systemd, is that you?
[01:42] <bazhang> lets get back on topic please
[01:50] <daniel_> hello i am using ubuntu gnome and when i close the lid my turns off how can i stop this from happing cant find it anywhere in the gui
[01:51] <MrElendig> daniel_: your what turns off?
[01:52] <daniel_> screen sorry
[01:52] <veXx> his laptop likely
[01:52] <daniel_> well the computer
[01:52] <MrElendig> make up your mind
[01:52] <TJ-> daniel_: that is controlled in the Power Settings
[01:53] <daniel_> yeh i though so to but cannot find any way to change what the lid does it used to on other version maybe because i am using gnome?
[01:54] <TJ-> daniel_: could be; I've lost track of hoe many useful settings seem to be ripped out of GUIs recently!
[01:55] <daniel_> :/ yea they try to make it simpler and it makes it harder is there a way to reach that setting through a text file somewere
[01:55] <TJ-> daniel_: maybe this can help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/15520/how-can-i-tell-ubuntu-to-do-nothing-when-i-close-my-laptop-lid
[01:57] <daniel_> thank you just what i needed a simple walk through all the ones i could fine were quite confusing and looked like alot more work then it was worth ill give this ago
[01:57] <badbodh> setting lid-switch to lock screen makes more sense
[02:08] <daniel_> hey it worked doesn't turn off anymore :D
[02:11] <TJ-> daniel_: which change did you make?
[02:13] <daniel_> i just followed that text file and uncommented were it said handlelidswitch=suspend and changed it to ignore and restarted the computer so now just the screen stays off and my computer still charges my phone and keeps streaming my netflix to my tv :D
[02:40] <jack_> greetings
[02:42] <_B_A_T_M_A_N_> where's the log of who logged in with ssh? I need someone's ip
[02:45] <somsip> _B_A_T_M_A_N_: /var/log/auth.log
[02:46] <veXx> sounds like batmans about to lay the smack down on joker
[02:46] <dbkaplun> Who here uses nano but hates it?
[02:48] <_B_A_T_M_A_N_> I dunno someone's joining my minecraft server that I'm testing. I thought It mine have been someone I know
[03:02] <badbodh> dbkaplun:  the silence should answer your question.
[03:11] <qpf> fdkj
[03:40] <gshmu> Ubuntu wired connect error when automatically connect to VPN error.   network can't using
[03:49] <dar--> ubuntu 14.04-LTS "Software-Updater" Quit Working ! What TO DO ?
[03:50] <Bashing-om> dar--: Terminal time ! ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ; results ?
[03:51] <dar--> OK will try
[03:51] <Bashing-om> dar--: Any error, pastebin them for channel examination .
[03:54] <dar--> Looks like it works !=0) THANKS
[03:54] <bjv> Q: ubuntu 15.04 When my laptop battery #1 runs empty, brightness suddenly jumps to 100%.  How can I debug what is constantly setting it to full?
[03:55] <bjv> no entries in /var/log/syslog.. this may be a BIOS thing?
[03:55] <bjv> when I run: while true; do cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness ; sleep 1; do
[03:56] <bjv> i can watch it get set back to full. I press Fn-brightness down, and Unity shows the brightness popover decrease & screen dims.. then the bar jumps back up to full
[03:56] <Bashing-om> dar--: :)
[03:57] <LordSesshomaru> Anybody know how to reconfigure the default install to run a shell script instead of a shell login at start?
[03:58] <LordSesshomaru> Anybody know how to reconfigure the default install of telnetd to run a shell script instead of a shell login at start?
[04:03] <LordSesshomaru> Anybody know how to reconfigure the default install of telnetd to run a shell script instead of a shell login at start?
[04:05] <bjv> Seems like it was systemd!
[04:05] <bjv> sudo systemctl stop systemd-backlight@backlight:intel_backlight.service
[04:05] <bjv> has returned control of my brightness.
[04:06] <bjv> thanks to clues from Arch linux + google.com search: "linux" "lenovo" brightness reset max
[04:08] <Bashing-om> google-fu increases bjv !
[04:10] <Celelibi> Hi there.
[04:11] <Celelibi> How do I know which version of ubuntu runs in a VM?
[04:22] <bug_sniper> !seen quiet_nerd
[04:23] <cfhowlett> now there's a new irc trigger!
[04:23] <bug_sniper> he was going to see if he could get osu to work
[04:23] <bug_sniper> on wine
[04:24] <bug_sniper> because I couldn't figure it out
[04:24] <cfhowlett> Oregon State University?
[04:24] <bug_sniper> no, peppy's game
[04:25] <cfhowlett> usually works better on beer from what I've read ...
[04:25] <bug_sniper> lol
[04:25] <bug_sniper> http://osu.ppy.sh/ from here
[04:25] <cfhowlett> reading ...
[04:33] <smartass> hi, where can I find the policy for LTS releases? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS seems more like promises than a real policy
[04:34] <cfhowlett> smartass, I suspect you'd find those on the ubuntu flavor team launchpad
[04:37] <smartass> cfhowlett: thank you. I caanot find such a team on launchpad though
[04:38] <cfhowlett> smartass, perhaps ask the development irc channel
[04:38] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-devel IIRC
[04:38] <smartass> ok, thank you for the pointers
[04:39] <TJ-> smartass: what do you expect in a 'real policy' ?
[04:39] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[04:41] <smartass> TJ-: something like the Debian freeze or backport policy perhaps
[04:48] <bogy> does  anyone here know why the  color drains from ubuntu programs? is this the right place to as this?
[04:51] <TJ-> smartass: maybe these help:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/ReleaseProcess https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[04:52] <TJ-> bogy: That is showing the process isn't responding to the GUI event handler
[04:53] <Mr_Krol> anyone with some advice for buying a good soundcard that works under linux?
[04:54] <TJ-> Mr_Krol: external USB? Internal PCI/PCIe ?
[04:55] <Mr_Krol> internal PCIe
[04:55] <bogy> should the walpaper fade out too?
[04:55] <Mr_Krol> i prefer sound blaster but they do not have drivers for linux
[04:56] <TJ-> bogy: generally I think that only happens when the entire GUI has ground to a halt *OR* some modal dialog is waiting for input
[04:57] <TJ-> Mr_Krol: I'm not sure how up-to-date the individual links are, but this might get you started: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards
[04:58] <Mr_Krol> i read that asus is pretty good
[04:58] <bogy> ok. thanks
[04:59] <Mr_Krol> thanks tj btw for the help
[05:02] <phatboii> anybody know how to change themes in ubuntu studio
[05:07] <PowerPCG3> Hey, I need some help with telnetd, I'm trying to make it execute a shell script on connection and it just refuses to do so no matter what I try, almost to the point of shotgunning my computer
[05:08] <dbkaplun> PowerPCG3: why not SSH?
[05:08]  * cfhowlett thinks "Telnet?  people still do that?"
[05:09] <PowerPCG3> dbkaplun: because what the shell program is supposed to do is redirect another telnet connection to a different machine on my network that is a bit more outdated and less secure
[05:09] <dbkaplun> PowerPCG3: SSH supports redirection, see -R and -L
[05:09] <rd_> is everyone else having issues with flash non free
[05:09] <PowerPCG3> plus this machine is running wifi down to wireless and said computer I need to connect to is wired
[05:09] <PowerPCG3> well, that'd be cool but the other machine is running Mac OS 9
[05:10] <cfhowlett> rd_, please don't ask "does anyone else ...." questions.  complete waste of time.  state YOUR issues with YOUR details
[05:10] <dbkaplun> PowerPCG3: I imagine you have a trash can somewhere
[05:11] <PowerPCG3> basically i want telnetd to invoke a telnet to another machine, also I'm attempting to host a BBS for the "vintage" computing community
[05:11] <rd_> I have a install where it doesnt work just spins a circle but is not a normal buffer and n install where I cannot revert to flash from html5
[05:11] <rd_> has gf;asj
[05:12] <rd_> oops. has flash been abandoned?
[05:12] <cfhowlett> rd_, it is being killed off piece by piece " and not soon enough!".  seek alternatives
[05:13] <rd_> well one is on a netbook andflash runs better on the lower specs
[05:13] <rd_> but this is beast of a machine and its toally pooched
[05:14] <rd_> no free installer has no reinstall option in the package manager either
[05:14] <rd_> doesnt work in either browser as well
[05:17] <PowerPCG3> well sorry for wasting your time, i see the linux community has degraded since i've been out of the scene
[05:29] <shoot2kill> anyone alive
[05:30] <agent_white> Slightly
[05:31] <shoot2kill> hey all
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: good morning
[05:31] <shoot2kill> looking for a little help if possible
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: shoot your question :p
[05:31] <shoot2kill> :P
[05:31] <shoot2kill>  ok
[05:32] <dbkaplun> Who here uses nano but hates it?
[05:32] <shoot2kill> im running ubuntu on my puter its a hp dv7 i have tried several forum pages looking to change my gamma
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> dbkaplun: no polls here please
[05:33] <shoot2kill> i play a old game called day of defeat  but i cant change my brightness or gamma now
[05:33] <shoot2kill> driving me a little batty
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: gamma & brightness are related to your monitor, cant you change it from there?
[05:33] <cfhowlett> shoot2kill, RTM the manual for your monitor.
[05:34] <shoot2kill> its a laptop
[05:34] <cfhowlett> shoot2kill, even better.  read the manual.  this is a hardware issue.
[05:34] <shoot2kill> hold on hold on
[05:35] <shoot2kill> before installing ubuntu f3 and f2 adjusted brightness
[05:35] <shoot2kill> now the buttons still work but nothing happens
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: you using the Fn button + F3?
[05:36] <shoot2kill> the fn is not used
[05:36] <cfhowlett> try it.
[05:36] <agent_white> $10 says... ;D
[05:37] <shoot2kill> no nothing
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: tryed the brightness from ubuntu settings?
[05:37] <hateball> There is also xgamma one can play with
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> !info xgamma
[05:38] <shoot2kill> hateball i did read about it
[05:38] <shoot2kill> but was a little above my skills
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: maybe there are acpi issues, check syslog or dmesg warnings in your logs
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: wich ubuntu version did you have?
[05:39] <shoot2kill> 14
[05:40] <shoot2kill> even when i use the settings in ubuntu the brightness doesnt change
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: 14.04? up to date to 14.04.3?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: right, might be acpi bug or so
[05:40] <shoot2kill> anything can be done
[05:40] <shoot2kill> ?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: yes, investigate your logs first
[05:41] <shoot2kill> ok how do i do that
[05:41] <shoot2kill> sorry im only new to unbuntu
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: you can use the logviewer icon
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: or manual browse to /var/log/..
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: or type dmesg in terminal
[05:42] <shoot2kill> ok doing it now
[05:42] <green2rabbit> when I used G++, where does it to find the related library?
[05:42] <shoot2kill> ok
[05:42] <shoot2kill> what am i looking for in this log
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: anything related to acpi or brightness
[05:43] <wydhry> Hello ...
[05:44] <shoot2kill> [   13.293008] ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver
[05:44] <shoot2kill> [   13.293013] ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000540-0x000000000000054f conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000500-0x0000000000000563 (\GPIO) (20141107/utaddress-258)
[05:44] <shoot2kill> [   13.293018] ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000540-0x000000000000054f conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000500-0x000000000000055f (\_SB_.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP.GPIO) (20141107/utaddress-258)
[05:44] <shoot2kill> [   13.293022] ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver
[05:44] <shoot2kill> [   13.293025] ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000530-0x000000000000053f conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000500-0x0000000000000563 (\GPIO) (20141107/utaddress-258)
[05:44] <shoot2kill> [   13.293029] ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000530-0x000000000000053f conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000500-0x000000000000055f (\_SB_.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP.GPIO) (20141107/utaddress-258)
[05:44] <cfhowlett> !paste | shoot2kill
[05:44] <wydhry> Bye
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: can you doublecheck wich graphics driver you using? sudo lshw -C video
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: you can pastebin what cfhowlett suggested
[05:47] <cfhowlett> shoot2kill, sudo lshw -C video | nc termbin.com 9999                  and paste the url here
[05:47] <shoot2kill> ok
[05:47] <shoot2kill> im back
[05:47] <shoot2kill> lol
[05:47] <shoot2kill> ok
[05:48] <shoot2kill> i dont the above line
[05:48] <shoot2kill> and got this
[05:49] <shoot2kill> use netcat
[05:50] <shoot2kill> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12406498/
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[05:50] <shoot2kill> ok try that mate
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: ok thats good
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: found similar issue on a dv6: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162409/brightness-not-working-on-an-hp-pavilion-dv6-with-a-ati-radeon-hd6770m
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: there might be few things to try for you
[05:53] <shoot2kill> ok what do you think mate?
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: i think its an acpi bug, that needs a fix
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: try the quiet splash line, or a no_acpi boot perhaps
[05:54] <shoot2kill> sorry im not sure what that means
[05:54] <shoot2kill> oh i did the splash like
[05:54] <shoot2kill> line
[05:54] <shoot2kill> already
[05:54] <shoot2kill> didnt change anything
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: did you do it this way? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1906803
[05:56] <shoot2kill> yep
[05:57] <shoot2kill> thats where i got it from that page you just posted
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: did you update-grub after the fix?
[05:57] <shoot2kill> yes
[05:57] <shoot2kill> and rebooted
[05:59] <shoot2kill> lotus a litte further down that page a poster by the name of.. biodiesel-bri
[05:59] <shoot2kill> says you have to do something else also ....but i wasnt sure how to do what he was saying
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions try this mate no acpi or acpi=off
[06:01] <shoot2kill> sorry to be a pain but how do i do that
[06:01] <test12345> morning. so i'm relatively new to ubuntu/linux and recently got a new monitor. and now the resolution after reboot is always 1440xsomething ( it does not remember the 1920x1080 ) any ideas what could be wrong? (this is ubuntu 14.04 )
[06:01] <cfhowlett> test12345, did you install the drivers for the new monitor?
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: enter grub at boot with holding shift
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: then F6 to modify bootoptions
[06:02] <shoot2kill> ok will do ....
[06:03] <shoot2kill> brb
[06:04] <test12345> cfhowlett,  did not even know that there was such a thing
[06:04] <cfhowlett> test12345, ubuntu is magic, but not THAT magic.  you have to tell it exactly what you're using for maximum performance.
[06:07] <test12345> i guess i kind of assumed it would just persistentnly save the settings
[06:07] <cfhowlett> you changed the hardware!  unless the replacement was EXACTLY the same as the previous unit ...
[06:08] <shoot2kill> i must be doing something wrong
[06:08] <test12345> but now that you mention it xorg.conf looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/12406544/
[06:08] <shoot2kill> f6 doesnt seem to do anything
[06:08] <test12345> seeing the evil resolution there ;)
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: did you enter grub succesfully?
[06:09] <shoot2kill> i think so
[06:09] <shoot2kill> yes
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: at bottom you should see all options
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: F6 should open boot options
[06:09] <shoot2kill> f6 didnt do anything
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> weird
[06:10] <shoot2kill> should i be trying to go into recovery mode
[06:10] <shoot2kill> or something like that
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: no thats for failsafe or broken packages
[06:11] <shoot2kill> ok because i had the option to do that
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: you dont have an nvidia or ati card on that laptop do you?
[06:11] <shoot2kill> but nothing when hitting f6
[06:11] <shoot2kill> ati
[06:11] <shoot2kill> i have a dual grahics system
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: right, doublecheck your additional drivers
[06:11] <test12345> so i guess i should set up xorg.conf for dual monitor with one at 1440 and the other at 1920 let me google that
[06:12] <cfhowlett> test12345, dual monitors?  xrandr is your friend
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: your brightness issue might be related to your ati card not active
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | test12345
[06:13] <test12345> cfhowlett, yeah the old one still kind of work, but ancient 1440 max resolution ;)
[06:13] <shoot2kill> it says this device is using the recommand drivers
[06:13] <test12345> cfhowlett, lotuspsychje thank you
[06:13] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: lshw only showed your intel card
[06:13] <shoot2kill> how do i show you a screen print
[06:13] <shoot2kill> on here
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: the photocamera icon or F11
[06:15] <shoot2kill> do you have a url like the paste.ubuntu.com
[06:15] <shoot2kill> for screen prints
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: imgur
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: or tinypic
[06:16] <shoot2kill> ok
[06:17] <penos> systemd is no longer unix like?
[06:18] <test12345> next week it will be time to figure out if the cheap gpu i got is broken or my pci slot, so i guess some shuffling of the gpu into different slots haha (new ancient gpu to get more/different monitor ouputs basically) (and lspci does not show it and monitor(s) plugged into it on boot makes everything very black) so i guess either the card was broken on delivery or the pci slot on the board i try to use is broken
[06:18] <cfhowlett> good detective work, test12345!
[06:19] <penos> is systemd still unix like?
[06:19] <test12345> just a little annoyed if either the new card is broken or the mobo i have been using for only a couple of month haha
[06:19] <TJ-> test12345: If it's PCI neither may be broken, but they may differ in the voltages they support (5V and 3.3V)
[06:19] <test12345> hm
[06:19] <cfhowlett> penos, ask #ubuntu-offtopic or ##unix
[06:20] <shoot2kill> ok done
[06:20] <shoot2kill> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=mjli09&s=8#.VfZnFbOlilM
[06:22] <test12345> TJ-, interesting did not know that either. it is just an radeon 5450 with a pxi express connector
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: you could try another driver in list, to see if that fixes your brightness
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> shoot2kill: have to go, gl with your issue right
[06:23] <TJ-> test12345: Ahhh, so not *PCI* then, but PCI Express. Totally different.
[06:23] <shoot2kill> thanks heaps for trying to help
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> np
[06:23] <shoot2kill> all the best mate
[06:23] <test12345> yeah, are there still real pci cards nowadays?
[06:24] <TJ-> test12345: Yes, often in the industrial field.
[06:24] <test12345> ah
[06:26] <penos> hello
[06:30] <sachin_a>  /join  #ubuntu-np
[06:34] <test12345> i should look at the back of my computer xrandr totally shows hdmi 1-3
[06:38] <Chat534996> How do you copy all the file names in a folder ?
[06:39] <Ben64> cp folder/* destination/
[06:39] <Chat534996> Just the file names not the files
[06:40] <Ben64> explain
[06:41] <linuxuz3r> chat
[06:41] <linuxuz3r> Chat534996: find .
[06:42] <Chat534996> If i have 1000 songs in a folder how do i just copy the song names
[06:43] <Ben64> Chat534996: and do what with them, the more you explain the better answer you'll get
[06:45] <Chat534996> Paste the names on a text editor so that i can have a personal list
[06:46] <Ben64> cd to the directory, and do something like this .... "find * -type f -print > list"
[06:50] <LambdaComplex> Would `ls > list` count as a valid solution?
[06:51] <Ben64> not supposed to use ls for stuff like that
[06:53] <cinvoke>  Using ubuntu 1504. when i upgrade from 3.19.0  to  3.19.2 , is there a link i can read or any information i should be cautious about when doing this upgrade?  I know i can boot into the other kernel and remove the new one if i cant get it to work with my other drivers but im still a little hesitant . advice?
[06:56] <mokmeister> Ben64: I'm curious, why aren't you supposed to use ls for stuff like that?
[06:57] <darius93> what to use to replace "linux-image-amd64" that is used in debian for ubuntu?
[06:57] <darius93> just to reparse im building a package from debian that isnt on ubuntu and i just want to know what to use to replace "linux-image-amd64" or is it safe to remove it
[06:58] <linuxfsxv> how would you go about installing iceweasel on lubuntu?
[06:59] <auronandace> darius93: why do you want to replace the kernel?
[06:59] <darius93> auronandace, im not trying to replace the kernel
[06:59] <auronandace> darius93: what do you think linux-image-amd64 is?
[07:00] <darius93> in the debian/control there is linux-image-amd64 as a dependency
[07:00] <darius93> sorry if it sounds confusing, i just want to make sure it compiles without any issues
[07:00] <Ben64> thats the kernel.
[07:01] <auronandace> darius93: maybe you shouldstart with what package you want
[07:03] <darius93> just ignore what i said imma go on and omit it from the file. its not required in the file from what i see from the source but the program supports those kernels
[07:03] <auronandace> !checkinstall | darius93
[07:04] <auronandace> darius93: if you inform us of what you are trying to compile then maybe someone can help you (usually compiling something should be the last resort)
[07:06] <darius93> i am compiling libguestfs (mainly from upstream from the stable branch) because the one in ubuntu repo is out dated and also has a bug that have yet to be fixed. I am creating a deb (using fakeroot and debian/rules) but i will also look into checkinstall because that would likely make things easier
[07:11] <darius93> auronandace, i am partially using things from debian repo but modifying it to work with ubuntu (instead of a vm mainly) but i was just wondering what would replace that from ubuntu repo but its not truly required from what i see
[07:20] <alkisg> Hi, could anyone suggest to me a tool for verifying my documents integrity? Something maybe like md5deep, that I would to generate an md5sum of all my documents, and then run it again in the future to make sure that they were not corrupted due to e.g. hdd or copying failures?
[07:20] <alkisg> *se
[07:20] <alkisg> *use
[07:21] <auronandace> alkisg: every time your documents change you would need to generate a new checksum
[07:21] <alkisg> auronandace: right, my plan is to run it e.g. every month, and it would tag the new ones, and report changes in existing ones
[07:22] <Ben64> what happens when your md5sum list gets corrupted
[07:22] <alkisg> I will have backups
[07:22] <mariano1> Hi all, I get the message "Local Npm module "grunt-cli" not found". When I perform the npm installation, I get an EACCES error: http://pastebin.com/E5PjKzgC  . Why? I installed grunt: /usr/bin/grunt -> ../lib/node_modules/grunt-cli/bin/grunt*
[07:22] <Ben64> or, crazy thought... backup your files?
[07:22] <deepquestions> hi@ll, is there a solution to use the yubikey for login on ubuntu logon Screen?? (not the ssh-login, there is one .... i know.)
[07:23] <alkisg> Ben64: did it ever happen to you, for your disk to silently fail a bit, and to have corrupted files, and to back them up, destroying your old good backup?
[07:23] <alkisg> That's what I'm trying to avoid, I'm not trying to replace backups
[07:24] <Ben64> that doesn't sound like a real scenario, have fun with it though
[07:24] <alkisg> Ben64: if you don't know about things, you can ask questions, it's not good to tell others that did experience that "that is not a real scenario"
[07:25] <alkisg> All disks silently fail, that's why btrfs has crc
[07:25] <alkisg> And even crc's will fail, it's just a matter of possibilities
[07:25] <alkisg> If you want links that explain this, I can give you some...
[07:25] <alkisg> Anyway... if someone can suggest some software, I'm all ears
[07:26] <Ben64> i mean sure it can happen if you use fat32 or something, don't be all condescending and stuff though
[07:26] <alkisg> Ben64: it happens with all file systems. Surely with ext* that doesn't have crc, but with btrfs as well.
[07:26] <Ben64> if you want to md5sum every file every month, knock yourself out
[07:28]  * alkisg wants to keep the hashes inside the respective directories so that the dirs themselves can be easily renamed/moved without the need to regenerate the hashes...
[07:42] <Jolly_sparrow> Hi all! I tried to enable zswap; but "dmesg | grep zswap" returns only "[    0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic root=UUID=21... ro quiet splash zswap.enabled=1 vt.handoff=7"
[07:52] <alkisg> Jolly_sparrow:  cat /sys/module/zswap/parameters/enabled
[07:53] <Jolly_sparrow> alkisg: cat: /sys/module/zswap/parameters/enabled: no such file or directory
[07:53] <alkisg> zswap is not loaded then
[07:53] <alkisg> # cat /sys/module/zswap/parameters/enabled
[07:53] <alkisg> N
[07:55] <Jolly_sparrow> alksig: how to load it? bash: cd: /sys/module/zswap/: no such file or directory; cat /proc/cmdlineBOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic root=UUID=2.... ro quiet splash zswap.enabled=1 vt.handoff=7
[07:56] <alkisg> Jolly_sparrow: # grep -i zswap /boot/config-3.19.0-28-generic
[07:56] <alkisg> CONFIG_ZSWAP=y
[07:56] <Jolly_sparrow> alkisg: modprobe: FATAL: Module zswap not found.
[07:56] <alkisg> Check your kernel config ^
[07:57] <Jolly_sparrow> alkisg: grep -i zswap /boot/config-3.13.0-24-generic # CONFIG_ZSWAP is not set
[07:57] <alkisg> In my 14.04.3, zswap is a buildin module
[07:57] <alkisg> Do you have a vanilla ubuntu kernel?
[07:58] <Jolly_sparrow> alkisg: if your kernel have zswap; I just download your version; have your kernel zswap working?
[07:58] <alkisg> I haven't enabled it in the cmdline
[07:58] <alkisg> I'm not using zswap
[07:58] <Jolly_sparrow> alkisg: if i remember correctly, my kernel is vanilla and up-to-date, ubuntu 14.04
[07:59] <alkisg> You probably have the 14.04.1 kernel, 3.13, instead of the 14.04.3 one
[07:59] <Jolly_sparrow> alkisg: how to fix it?
[07:59] <alkisg> Google for lts enablement stack if you want the 3.19 kernel
[07:59] <alkisg> sudo apt-get install linux-image-generic-lts-vivid or something similar
[08:00] <Jolly_sparrow> alkisg: have your kernel # CONFIG_ZSWAP ??
[08:00] <alkisg> See the result above
[08:00] <alkisg> (10:56:30 πμ) alkisg: Jolly_sparrow: # grep -i zswap /boot/config-3.19.0-28-generic
[08:00] <alkisg> (10:56:30 πμ) alkisg: CONFIG_ZSWAP=y
[08:00] <alkisg> That was the default, I didn't touch it
[08:01] <wydhry> Hi guys, how to share clipboard between ubuntu and android?
[08:01] <alkisg> Jolly_sparrow: out of curiosity, why are you using zswap?
[08:01] <Jolly_sparrow> alkisg: thank you very very much!
[08:01] <Jolly_sparrow> alkisg: due to 384 mb RAM :) I use Lubuntu
[08:02] <alkisg> Jolly_sparrow: zswap will make less ram available for your apps
[08:02] <alkisg> It will make things worse, not better...
[08:02] <alkisg> You do have a swap partition or file, right?
[08:02] <Jolly_sparrow> alkisg: it works nice, but slow if many soft... How to make things better?
[08:02] <meganerd> Jolly_sparrow: get a faster CPU
[08:02] <wydhry> (wydhry) Hi guys, how to share clipboard between ubuntu and android?
[08:02] <meganerd> Jolly_sparrow: or use an SSD for swap
[08:02] <alkisg> Yup, and more RAM
[08:03] <meganerd> what he said
[08:03] <meganerd> I but the most RAM I can afford.
[08:03] <Jolly_sparrow> yea, swap partition, 784 mb,; IDE
[08:03] <meganerd> Oh, then manage your expectations with respect to performance
[08:03] <alkisg> Jolly_sparrow: with 384 ram, I imagine you have DDR-1 RAM? Give 10€ and buy 512 more...
[08:04] <alkisg> You need at least 1 GB for browsing these days...
[08:04] <alkisg> What CPU?
[08:05] <Jolly_sparrow> meganerd, alkisg: it works nice year ago, before upgrade... :( cpu- Celeron
[08:05] <wydhry> I giveup
[08:05] <alkisg> Jolly_sparrow: newer apps need more ram, you can't undo that... either stick to older programs or buy a newer pc
[08:06] <meganerd> Jolly_sparrow: It probably still works nice
[08:07] <meganerd> Jolly_sparrow: just as long as you don't use a modern browser
[08:07] <meganerd> Just an FYI, the latest Raspberry Pi has more RAM and CPU horsepower than you do
[08:07] <Jolly_sparrow> meganerd: true :) usually I disabled Javascript in mozilla
[08:08] <Jolly_sparrow> meganerd: so, Raspberry is cute :)
[08:08] <meganerd> Jolly_sparrow: too slow and constrained as a desktop system for me, but nice for some always on server tasks
[08:09] <Jolly_sparrow> meganerd: have you any site or blog?
[08:09] <meganerd> Jolly_sparrow: not really
[08:10] <Jolly_sparrow> I just think : if you have Raspberry, you probably use it as server...
[08:11] <Jolly_sparrow> meganerd: anyway, thank you for advices; :)
[08:11] <meganerd> Jolly_sparrow: some people in my local unix user group use them as desktops
[08:11] <meganerd> Jolly_sparrow: buy some RAM, as much as you can
[08:12] <Jolly_sparrow> meganerd: Raspberry are nice enough in console, text mode;
[08:19] <mikecmpbll> got myself into an 'orrible mess with upstart
[08:19] <mikecmpbll> all server start/stop/restart jobs
[08:19] <mikecmpbll> all service start/stop/restart commands hang indefinitely*
[08:20] <mikecmpbll> i don't really know what to do :[. can't restart it at the moment, either.
[08:21] <mikecmpbll> not sure what caused it either. i was trying to enable user jobs with upstart and might have butchered the upstart config file.
[08:21] <poorUser> hi people! When i login with ubuntu-gnome my 2° screen switches from its resolution to the laptop's one (nvidia optimus), and there is no way to change it with xrandr or diplay's panel. If i logout it returns to right resolution. Does anyone know what could be?
[08:25] <mikhael_k33hl> My Ubuntu (14.04) OS seems to be not working normally. Options for network manager are greyed out, sound settings only displaying "dummy output".
[08:28] <decci> Hi
[08:28] <decci> What is the format of driver disk
[08:35] <alkisg> decci: what do you mean "driver disk"?
[08:36] <pauser> Hi, I moved /var to a new partition since than, my disk space is going away for no reason. Do you know what could be the reason?
[08:37] <decci> I want to install raid driver during the installation
[08:50] <akik> decci: linux is not windows. if the linux installation iso doesn't support your raid adapter it's really not easy to install a custom kernel module
[09:12] <blz> Hello!  I have a btrfs-formatted root partition.  How do I take a snapshot of it?
[09:12] <blz> I've tried `btrfs subvolume snapshot / /path/to/snapshot` but it complains of an inappropriate ioctl for device
[09:20] <mikhael_k33hl> My ubuntu OS is acting weird, options in network manager are greyed out, sound settings displays dummy output.
[09:34] <janice> oi
[10:02] <hernil_> Hello! I seem to be having a weird problem with Unity. When waking from suspend I got what looked like parts of the Gnome lock screen but was unable to do or click anything. I tried switching tty and reloading unity (this worked some years back with other unity trouble I had). Not completely sure what the command was I tried three separate ones before giving up and rebooting "unity --refresh", "unity --reload" and "unity --replace".
[10:02] <hernil_> After a reboot my desktop has now been reset and I am unable to change any of my unity settings
[10:06] <hernil_> So I'm wondering what files I might have changed. man unity gives me no info about the three commands I tried. I have a fresh backup I could restore from but I'd like to know what files I changed so I don't have to restore my whole profile.
[10:07] <hernil_> Given that these settings actually reside in my profile of course.
[10:07] <hernil_> I'd greatly appreciate the help! :)
[10:13] <rpm_33> Dell tech support is useless. They'll sell you a laptop with Ubuntu on it, but have no idea how to use it or help you with it. :(
[10:15] <NegativeFlare> rpm_33: What's wrong?
[10:15] <akik> rpm_33: did the give you instructions on how to restore the os?
[10:15] <NegativeFlare> Ubuntu is great!
[10:15] <NegativeFlare> Xubuntu is better imo ;)
[10:15] <rpm_33> No they didn't know anything about Ubuntu at all. I have been having problems with my WIFI not connecting, I'm speaking to you via ethernet.
[10:15] <rpm_33> I have a Dell driver package tar.gz
[10:16] <rpm_33> Does anybody know how to install it?
[10:16] <NegativeFlare> rpm_33: You don't install tar.gz's XD Their compressed files with more files in it. Have you tried extracting the files?
[10:16] <akik> rpm_33: unpack it. there should be some kind of file that describes the installation
[10:17] <puki> hi, what is a good screen capture tool for Ubuntu? I need to record good quality video of some WebGL.
[10:17] <NegativeFlare> puki: simplescreenrecorder, but its PPA only :P
[10:17] <akik> i can't believe dell is not prepared to support their ubuntu installations
[10:17] <NegativeFlare> Otherwise, you can use gtkrecordmydesktop
[10:17] <puki> NegativeFlare: PPA?
[10:17] <NegativeFlare> !ppa | puki
[10:18] <puki> which would be fine.
[10:18] <rpm_33> Extract it where? It contains 5 directories and 1 "prepackage.dell" file.
[10:18] <NegativeFlare> I use it just fine. I've recorded a few Youtube Videos with it
[10:18] <puki> ok, thanks. I will test it, NegativeFlare.
[10:18] <NegativeFlare> puki: np
[10:18] <rpm_33> casper, debs, installer, kernel, scripts, prepackage.dell
[10:18] <akik> rpm_33: installer sounds like it
[10:19] <rpm_33> contains many .debs
[10:19] <rpm_33> about 20
[10:20] <rohitpal440> What are some hacking forum on irc ?
[10:20] <rpm_33> also oem-config.conf, and ubiquity.conf
[10:20] <hateball> Seems unlikely you need to use that to get wifi working
[10:20] <NegativeFlare> rpm_33: Extract it where ever you see fit. And figure out which ones you need to install
[10:20] <hateball> rpm_33: Have you went into the additional drivers config and had a look?
[10:20] <NegativeFlare> rohitpal440: totally offtopic.
[10:20] <rpm_33> what are the additional drivers?
[10:21] <hateball> !drivers
[10:21] <hateball> oh come on :|
[10:21] <NegativeFlare> Gotta love that XD
[10:22] <NegativeFlare> rpm_33: Addtional Drivers is a item on settings
[10:22] <NegativeFlare> but bleh Unity
[10:22] <hateball> It's most likely just some missing firmware, doubt that it's some magical hardware that needs a special installer from Dell
[10:22] <NegativeFlare> hateball: I'm going to have to agree with you lol
[10:23] <NegativeFlare> Unless Dell went and provided that stuff xD
[10:23] <rpm_33> This laptop came with Ubuntu pre-installed. I got rid of it and later instaleld generic Ubuntu.
[10:23] <NegativeFlare> rpm_33: And that's what went wrong xD Dell had it all fixed up for you. And you went and wiped it
[10:23] <NegativeFlare> Why did you do that?
[10:24] <rpm_33> This driver package comes from Dell's website http://www.dell.com/support/home/uk/en/ukbsdt1/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=VW84F&fileId=3458728014&osCode=UB14A&productCode=precision-m3800-workstation&languageCode=EN&categoryId=CS
[10:24] <hateball> rpm_33: what does "ubuntu-drivers devices" return? run that in a terminal
[10:24] <rpm_33> In order to easily put Ubuntu alongside Win7. BTW that's really helpful
[10:25] <hateball> That link has install instructions at any rate
[10:25] <rpm_33> hateball http://pastebin.com/mfUF0ULg returns that
[10:25] <hernil_> rpm_33: If I remember correctly Dell has a few minor tweaks in their installation of Ubuntu. Not all of it is in upstream yet
[10:26] <hernil_> like this for example http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=4NTWR
[10:27] <rpm_33> What does upstream mean?
[10:27] <hateball> rpm_33: hmm, doesnt list anything but the GPU needing restricted drivers... what does "lshw -C Network" return ?
[10:28] <rpm_33> lshw -C Network: http://pastebin.com/m7NZ4uDp
[10:29] <hateball> hmmm odd, I have that exact same chipset in a desktop at home and it "just works"
[10:30] <hateball> rpm_33: what does "rfkill list" say?
[10:31] <rpm_33> hateball all nos
[10:31] <ratrace> Hello, I've installed KeePassX, but clicking the launcher icon does nothing. I can start it from the command line, no errors shown. How do I diagnose why it fails through the launcher?
[10:32] <hateball> rpm_33: can you see networks at all, it just refuses to connect?
[10:33] <rpm_33> I can see them. It generally refuses, although some times it does connect. Mainly its bad after suspend/resume - will not connect. It connects easily to Android tether and Starbucks Wifi. I've heard this OS/hardware/driver combination can prefer wireless G to N or something like that...
[10:41] <puki> NegativeFlare: worked very well. :)
[10:41] <hateball> rpm_33: yes you can set options for the driver, see this for instance http://zeroset.mnim.org/2014/04/22/unstable-wifi-connection-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-ctrl-event-disconnected-reason4-locally_generated1/
[10:42] <hateball> rpm_33: I'm using AC with mine, and it's never had a hiccup, but not all networks are created equal I guess
[10:42] <Guest62273> fff
[10:42] <hateball> rpm_33: you can also have a look with "dmesg" at times it gives you trouble, see if it spits out anything interesting
[10:44] <HalionX5> hi to all
[10:47] <akik> rpm_33: were you able to install the tar.gz you mentioned?
[10:47] <rpm_33> akik no it's giving me errors
[10:47] <badbodh> hello HalionX5
[10:47] <akik> pastebin
[10:47] <puki> what's a good video editing tool for Ubuntu? I want to do basic video editing but I am spoiled by using professional software in the past so I'd appreciate something that's not overly sucky.
[10:48] <rpm_33> akik here's the installation instructions, I'm at step 8
[10:48] <rpm_33> http://www.dell.com/support/home/uk/en/ukbsdt1/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=VW84F&fileId=3458728014&osCode=UB14A&productCode=precision-m3800-workstation&languageCode=EN&categoryId=CS
[10:48] <badbodh> puki:  openshot pitvi avidemux
[10:48] <badbodh> kdenlive
[10:48] <puki> Openshot looks p. sucky.
[10:48] <puki> Kdenlive looks nice.
[10:48] <hateball> puki: kdenlive, blender
[10:49] <badbodh> hateball:  blender is a 3d imaging tool. he wants a basic video editor
[10:49] <puki> yes.
[10:49] <puki> Blender is a 3D modeler.
[10:49] <hateball> badbodh: It can do video editing as well
[10:50] <badbodh> " I want to do basic video editing " <- focus baby
[10:50] <EriC^^> openshot
[10:50] <akik> rpm_33: so what happens? is the driver package a tar.gz or a deb?
[10:50] <puki> Openshot is Fisher-Price software and I cannot abide.
[10:51] <rpm_33> tar.gz
[10:51] <puki> I will try Kdenlive, that looks nice.
[10:51] <EriC^^> try both
[10:51] <akik> Precision_M3800_A08.fish.tar.gz
[10:51] <puki> I suppose I could. thanks for the recommendations.
[10:52] <badbodh> puki:  we cannot help you with your tin foil plastic goggle assessment. feel free to try them out one by one. i've pretty much given you all the options
[10:52] <akik> rpm_33: those instructions sure could be more detailed
[10:53] <akik> rpm_33: what happens when you double click the  Precision_M3800_A08.fish.tar.gz file?
[10:53] <rpm_33> The dell recovery tool crashes, it can't install for some reason.
[10:53] <rpm_33> It opens using dell's tool
[10:53] <akik> :(
[10:53] <EriC^^> rpm_33: what dell recovery tool?
[10:53] <EriC^^> ah nevermind
[10:54] <akik> rpm_33: unpack the tar.gz and pastebin its contents
[10:54] <akik> a tar.gz is just an archive of a directory structure
[10:55] <rpm_33> casper  debs  installer  kernel  prepackage.dell  scripts is the content
[10:55] <badbodh> rpm_33:  from the link you provided, the actual installation instruction begins at step 10 and 11. not helpful. like akik says, extract, open terminal in the extract directory and run "ls -a" , share on pastebin
[10:56] <badbodh> give "ls -a" , nothing less
[10:56] <akik> rpm_33: "find ." in the unpacked directory will show all files
[11:00] <akik> i bought a samsung printer which "supports" linux. the only instructions were that just start using it
[11:01] <rbhatta_> rpm_33: I have had wifi issues after suspend resume. For me the simplest hack is to right click on networkmanager-applet icon and disable networking and renable it
[11:02] <rpm_33> badbodh before you do step 10 and 11, you need to download the Dell recovery tool from Ubuntu Software Centre, and point it to the ISO or directory containing the driver package.
[11:03] <badbodh> rpm_33:  oh missed that
[11:03] <guest-EH4qs1> ACKDEVIL
[11:04] <guest-EH4qs1> HELLOU
[11:09] <curiousx> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-xhdoT397g  -.-
[11:09] <curiousx> [Video] Liri Browser - Open-Source, Cross-Platform and Material Design for Unity and Ubuntu Touch (youtube.com)
[11:21] <ian> hi
[11:22] <Guest11131> hello
[11:29] <santosxen> Hey guys, does anyone know what to do if you got graphical bugs with conky?
[11:30] <curiousx> santosxen: describe your graphical bug
[11:30] <curiousx> santosxen: could you take a picture ?
[11:30] <santosxen> @curioussx, here we go http://i.imgur.com/78JCJZy.png , such bug.
[11:32] <curiousx> santosxen: yeah, never sow something like that, only occurs with that theme ? or all themes ?
[11:33] <santosxen> @curiousx, with all
[11:35] <curiousx> santosxen: driver ? could it be a driver related bug ? what is your graphic card ? are you with free or privative drivers ?
[11:35] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:35] <santosxen> @curiousx,  im using the latest nvidia driver
[11:38] <santosxen> @curiousx,  nvidia  346.82
[11:39] <curiousx> santosxen: i had issues too, i solved them changin' some parameters in conky's config file, too much time without usin' it tho, i'll see if i can get some of my old conky to test it on your desktop if you wan't, problem is i don't remember how the parameters works xD
[11:41] <curiousx> even tho, that looks like a driver issue to me, idk :p
[11:44] <deepquestions> hi@ll, is there a solution to use the yubikey for login on ubuntu logon Screen?? (not the ssh-login, there is one .... i know.)
[11:44] <shoot2kill> hey everyone
[11:44] <shoot2kill> after a little help
[11:44] <shoot2kill> if possible
[11:45] <shoot2kill> lookings to stream movies from my pc to the tv
[11:47] <hualet> shoot2kill: yes you can if your tv supports DLNA
[11:47] <curiousx> santosxen: mah old conky try it: https://mega.nz/#!T9NRDRwC!S2Dep0hP5xdt3n8Caig1gSlQdI88sXJXQqZyDRBEhFg
[11:48] <Ben64> really sketchy
[11:48] <shoot2kill> yes it does mate
[11:49] <curiousx> santosxen: if that conky don't work, you could uninstall nvidia's driver and try the free one, to see if it related to the driver or not
[11:49] <curiousx> doesn't*
[11:49] <santosxen> @curiousx,  im tryin
[11:49] <shoot2kill> hualet what do i need to do ...now that my tv suports  DLNA
[11:50] <Ben64> shoot2kill: use something like mediatomb
[11:51] <shoot2kill> ok ill look up mediatomb
[11:52] <santosxen> @curiousx, no graphical bug, but i see my old wallpaper in the background ;D the desert... ive changed my wallpaper today
[11:52] <hualet> shoot2kill: try gupnp-av-cp
[11:53] <curiousx> santosxen: now i know what it is, just: killall conky, and re-execute it, that will fix it
[11:53] <santosxen> @curiousx, http://i.imgur.com/LvUxVXg.png thats, what it looks like
[11:54] <santosxen> @curiousx,  still the same. im starting the config file over the conky manager
[11:55] <shoot2kill> i just download mediatomb
[11:55] <shoot2kill> see how that goes,
[11:55] <curiousx> santosxen: lel, so, it is related to the config, now, see what are config parameters that match you bugy conky and replace'em with parameters from mah old conky
[11:56] <curiousx> santosxen: i mean, you know, the parameters before "TEXT"
[11:56] <hualet> shoot2kill: you need to use mediatomb and gupnp-av-cp together
[11:57] <santosxen> @curiousx,  your cinfig works besides of seeing the old wallpaper
[11:57] <santosxen> :D
[11:57] <Ben64> hualet: you don't
[11:57] <curiousx> :D
[11:58] <hualet> Ben64: mediatomb is just a media server, right? how can you play media without a control point
[11:58] <Ben64> hualet: the tv is the client
[11:59] <curiousx> santosxen: yeah, that is related to the parameters too, but don't ask me to fix that i would be like an hour or so, i don't remember how parameters works, if someone here knows could helps you much faster than me i can only suggest what i just wrote
[11:59] <curiousx> ...see what are config parameters that match you bugy conky and replace'em with parameters from mah old conky
[11:59] <santosxen> hm
[11:59] <curiousx> santosxen: do you know how to open conky's config file, do ya ?
[11:59] <santosxen> yes i do
[11:59] <hualet> Ben64: hmm..I get it
[12:00] <scatterp> hi can anyone help me with vnc I have this xstartup http://pastebin.com/LP9DRjfx and get this result http://img.ctrlv.in/img/15/09/13/55f5765276208.png and http://pastebin.com/1vNRdtHz (logs) i do get a password prompt from vnc before the screen with odd colors
[12:00] <Ben64> scatterp: odd colors?
[12:01] <scatterp> Ben64 yes see the img link
[12:01] <Ben64> i see no odd colors
[12:01] <mcfdez87> Hello. I'm trying to run a php scrip on session start. I changed /etc/rc.local and I added two new lines. My question is, this script is stored in /home/myuser/example, then, how can I run this? http://pastebin.com/L1RRARuJ
[12:01] <scatterp> Ben64 well that was my best attempt to describe what i saw there
[12:01] <curiousx> well, don't change nothin' after "TEXT" in you conky. Before "TEXT" is where is the bugy thing, there are general configuration in there, so, see them and replace'em with mines
[12:02] <Ben64> scatterp: thats the default X background, looks like vnc is working fine
[12:02] <scatterp> really ?
[12:02] <santosxen> LOL
[12:02] <curiousx> santosxen: i meant, not all, but the one that matchs
[12:02] <scatterp> Ben64 well thats pretty good news but then why is it not pink ?
[12:03] <santosxen> @custiousx -> own_window_argb_visual yes
[12:03] <santosxen> own_window_argb_value xxx
[12:03] <santosxen> own_window_type normal  <--- that made it. only adding that to the buggy conky
[12:03] <Ben64> scatterp: syntax error or its not reading that file
[12:03] <curiousx> santosxen: cool :)
[12:04] <scatterp> Ben64 I think it must be reading it because i changed that file to get that effect
[12:05] <Ben64> scatterp: so change it back?
[12:05] <scatterp> Ben64 originally i had a solid grey screen with 3 check boxs now you say vnc is up and running
[12:06] <scatterp> Ben64 i dont see anything in the log related to an error on the line xsetroot -solid pink how ever nothing after that seems to happen
[12:06] <shoot2kill> hualet what is gupnp-av-cp
[12:06] <shoot2kill> and how do i install it
[12:06] <rpm_33> Dell tech support are SOOOO useless. You guys are way better.
[12:07] <cfhowlett> rpm_33, now what?
[12:07] <rpm_33> cfhowlett my wifi is still awful
[12:08] <georgeos> Does anyone know if there is a way to stop horizontal tearing in Marco
[12:08] <kannan> in ubuntu 14.04 LTS server, i ran apt-get upgrade. in grub-pc, i cancelled and a tui screen infirmed that the default boot sector will be used. now, i am not sure if i can reboot or should i re run the upgrade or reconfigure the grub-pc package?
[12:08] <rpm_33> they offered me no help whatsoever, just directed me to forum posts ive already seen
[12:08] <scatterp> rpm_33 is it a laptop ?
[12:08] <shoot2kill> can someone tell me how to installl gupnp-av-cp
[12:08] <cfhowlett> rpm_33 right.  might send a message directly to the sputnik project head, barton george
[12:08] <Ben64> shoot2kill: you don't need it
[12:08] <rpm_33> scatterp yes.
[12:09] <shoot2kill> scratches head
[12:09] <hualet> shoot2kill: install gupnp-dlna-tools and gupnp-tools
[12:09] <scatterp> rpm_33 tried booting from ubuntu live disk ?
[12:09] <shoot2kill> i just type that install terminal hualet
[12:09] <shoot2kill> ?
[12:09] <Ben64> except you don't need it
[12:09] <rpm_33> scatterp yes wifi doesn't connect on that either
[12:10] <shoot2kill> arhhhhh
[12:10] <shoot2kill> i do or dont need it
[12:10] <scatterp> rpm_33 ahh doesnt connect and is terrible are 2 diffrent things
[12:10] <Ben64> you don't, for the third time
[12:10] <scatterp> rpm_33 whats your wifi card ?
[12:10] <hualet> sudo apt-get install gupnp-dlna-tools gupnp-tools
[12:10] <shoot2kill> ok so i installed mediatomb
[12:10] <hualet> shoot2kill: ^^^
[12:10] <rpm_33> scatterp Intel 7260
[12:10] <scatterp> Ben64 so is there a way i can spawn a terminal in that window remotely ?
[12:11] <Ben64> yep, mediatomb is what serves up videos, you just need to configure it and tell it which directories you want to share
[12:11] <rpm_33> cfhowlett can you find his email anywhre?
[12:11] <Ben64> it doesn't need anything else to run
[12:11] <shoot2kill> i can see the files on mediatomb
[12:11] <shoot2kill> how to i see them on the TV
[12:11] <Ben64> scatterp: DISPLAY=:0 xterm
[12:11] <scatterp> Ben64 ok ill try that give me a sec because also helping rpm_33 if i can
[12:11] <rpm_33> scatterp it's quite subtle. sometimes it does connect. mostly not. always fails to connect after suspend/resume. wifi works fine on win7 partition. and other comptuers in the house.
[12:12] <Ben64> shoot2kill: go to your tv, find your computer, play video
[12:12] <shoot2kill> its not showing up on tv
[12:12] <cfhowlett> rpm_33, try messaging his blog?  http://bartongeorge.net/
[12:12] <Ben64> shoot2kill: did you add directories/files
[12:12] <shoot2kill> arhhh yes it is
[12:12] <shoot2kill> just took a couple of mins
[12:13] <scatterp> rpm_33 at first guess your issue is your wifi card is pretty new i pretty much always insist on specific wifi cards for ubuntu because many are supported fully and easily do you have another older laptop you can swap cards with ?
[12:13] <TJ-> rpm_33: Are you still having problems with the same install as yesterday?
[12:13] <shoot2kill> ya right ben
[12:13] <shoot2kill> its working
[12:13] <shoot2kill> thanks everyone for there help
[12:13] <shoot2kill> ben you are a legend
[12:14] <shoot2kill> thanks everyone
[12:14]  * shoot2kill dances
[12:14] <shoot2kill> arhh yea ...its working
[12:14] <hateball> scatterp: fwiw, I have that chipset and it works ootb on 15.04
[12:14] <rpm_33> TJ yes I am scatterp no i can't do that at all.
[12:14] <hateball> rpm_33: are you on 14.04 or 15.04?
[12:15] <rpm_33> 14.04 LTS
[12:15] <TJ-> rpm_33: Which *exact model number do you have? Dell have OEM driver package downloads for some
[12:16] <shoot2kill> seriously people on here rock
[12:16] <scatterp> rpm_33 you dont know some one with even a broken laptop ?
[12:16] <hateball> rpm_33: Did you try changing options for the module as per the link I gave you earlier?
[12:16] <rpm_33> Can I note that it connects to tethered Android and Starbucks WIFI without problems. Just at home it's bad. TJ, Its Precision M3800, I already have a driver package but Dell's recovery tool/driver installer doesn't work - returns an error or crashes.
[12:16] <rpm_33> hateball refresh my memory
[12:17] <hateball> rpm_33: http://zeroset.mnim.org/2014/04/22/unstable-wifi-connection-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-ctrl-event-disconnected-reason4-locally_generated1/
[12:17] <hateball> basically disable N and have it do G only, see if it works better
[12:17] <scatterp> hateball ahh yes thats it!
[12:17] <rpm_33> hateball it seemed to help temporarily. the permenant fix didn't do much I don't think...
[12:18] <hateball> One could also dabble with mainline kernel to get a newer one, since it does work flawless in 15.04
[12:18] <TJ-> rpm_33: I'm looking at the Dell OEM driver download packages they publish for 12.04; in their is a DKMS-wrapped driver for the 7260. If I recall correctly you said when you bought the Dell it had Ubuntu pre-installed?
[12:18] <rpm_33> hateball at least, it still didn't connect after/suspend resume.
[12:18] <rpm_33> it had Ubuntu pre-installed, yes correct
[12:18] <scatterp> rpm_33 it wont auto connect after resume
[12:18] <scatterp> rpm_33 but disableing N will solve the problem
[12:18] <rpm_33> It won't connetc at all often.
[12:19] <scatterp> rpm_33 with n disabled ?
[12:19] <TJ-> rpm_33: Was it Ubuntu 14.04 pre-installed. I'm trying to pin down the correct Dell download to get the correct driver patches
[12:19] <rpm_33> TJ yes it was 14.04
[12:19] <rpm_33> scatterp is this for disabling n: sudo sh -c 'echo "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1" >> /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf'
[12:19] <TJ-> scatterp: we needed to add the iwlwifi workaround '802n_disable=1', and it needs re-applying after resume
[12:19] <rpm_33> because my iwlwifi.conf already has that line and it still performs badly
[12:20] <rpm_33> TJ that sounds about right
[12:20]  * cfhowlett wonders where to find the dell ubuntu linux .iso - somerville
[12:20] <rpm_33> WIFI is connected right now incidentally.
[12:20] <TJ-> rpm_33: Give me a few minutes to dig - I recall your issue well from yesterday
[12:20] <scatterp> rpm_33 limit your problems a little stop resumeing till its fixed
[12:20] <scatterp> AH rpm_33 can you disable N on your router ?
[12:21] <shoot2kill> hey ben64 you still around
[12:21] <rpm_33> MY router is a pile of rubbish. There seem to be very few knobs to tweak things like that. But yes I can disable N I think...
[12:21] <TJ-> scatterp: The issue rpm_33 has is the M3800 came with Ubuntu pre-installed by Dell. He replaced that with a user install of Ubuntu and since then the 7260 wifi performance has been patchy at home.
[12:21] <scatterp> rpm_33 do that now and let me know when done
[12:22] <rpm_33> OK It's on N G and B right now, I can switch it to G and B, or B only, or G only.
[12:22] <TJ-> rpm_33: *this* is what you need: http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=VW84F
[12:22] <hateball> Well all that's needed to solve it properly is an updated iwlwifi module
[12:22] <scatterp> rpm_33 try B only got now
[12:23] <hateball> B is terrible, you'd at least want G...
[12:23] <rpm_33> TJ thanks I already have that, but see step 8 of installation instructions. It breaks down there, returns an error. And Dell tech support didn't know what to do AT ALL.
[12:23] <TJ-> rpm_33: OK ... so let's fix that
[12:23] <scatterp> hateball yeah but he can try B and isolate the problem value ?
[12:23] <hateball> scatterp: of course, I'd start with B&G tho :p
[12:23] <scatterp> TJ- i think i tried that in the past my self
[12:24] <Zeke> Is it okay to ask questions in this channel?
[12:24] <scatterp> yes
[12:24] <cfhowlett> Zeke, actually, it's rather expected ...
[12:24] <TJ-> rpm_33: We can break the Dell package up if we have to
[12:24] <cfhowlett> :)
[12:25] <scatterp> TJ- i think i applied a patch file in the end and then eventually solved by disableing N and maybe G
[12:25] <scatterp> rpm_33 what router do you have ?
[12:25] <rpm_33> TJ, let me be more specific about the driver installation instructions. You have to download "Dell Recovery" app from Ubuntu Software Centre. Done that. Then you run it, and use it to point to the driver package we just downloaded. Problem. It wants ISOs only, the package is .tar.gz. When extracted its just a directory.
[12:25] <Zeke> Sweet, thanks, just making sure I'm not annoying anybody. I'm curious if anybody can give me some insight as to why
[12:25] <rpm_33> DLink DSL-2780 router.
[12:26] <Zeke> I'm having trouble double clicking any jar files after I just set up a java application
[12:26] <akik> dell a multibillion company can't do linux right?
[12:27] <TJ-> rpm_33: "step 8/9" is totally useless - it's just an instruction for causing software-center to open and install the combined OEM changes. What we need is to break out the driver changes separately.
[12:27] <rpm_33> scatterp OK I'm on B only now.
[12:28] <TJ-> akik: It worked fine with the original Dell-factory-installed 14.04 ... the issue here is applying their driver updates to a vanilla Ubuntu
[12:28] <jakkio> Zeke: do they run properly from java -jar in terminal?
[12:29] <rpm_33> TJ ok where it says double-clock the driver package file - it opens the dell recovery tool
[12:29] <rpm_33> crash!
[12:30] <Zeke> Jakkio, No they don't sadly. I'm assuming I must have screwed something up in the initial install?
[12:30] <TJ-> rpm_33: Yeah... all that is, is a bunch of scripts that wrap the process to install each individual driver package. I'm going to break those out so you can install the 7260 driver alone, at the command-line where you have full control
[12:30] <rpm_33> TJ that sounds much better. But I can't work out which one is which they havevery long complex names
[12:30] <TJ-> rpm_33: Those scripts *assume* you're using the Dell installed config and trip up if they cannot find things it installs
[12:31] <TJ-> rpm_33: Don't you worry - I'll do that, and give you just the bit you need
[12:31] <rpm_33> akik i think you're right about that.
[12:31] <rpm_33> BTW I'm on 802.11B right now - what should I be doing? scatterp
[12:31] <shiin> I installed ubuntu 14 on a new computer and the mouse appears to be invisible. Following google hints to remove ~/.config didn't work, nor did looking into the display settings and disabling unknown monitors (it has two monitors), nor did gsettings (...).cursor active false.
[12:32] <akik> TJ-: it just sounds to me that dell is not ready to fully support their ubuntu system
[12:32] <hateball> rpm_33: try enabling B+G in your router or you'll have dreadful speeds with only B
[12:32] <shiin> I used a usb stick to install after downloading the latest LTS image following the ubuntu documentation on how to format the USB stick.
[12:32] <scatterp> rpm_33 i was just doing some reading
[12:32] <rpm_33> akik they don't have any tech support trained in ubuntu. they direct you to forum posts and tell you to do it yourself. that's not what i thought tech support was/
[12:33] <jakkio> Zeke: yeah, i'd imagine that that when you double click the jar it opens and crashes quickly. run it with java -jar and the exception should give you somewhere to start to get it fixed
[12:34] <shoot2kill> anyone here good with graphics problems
[12:34] <scatterp> rpm_33 you just have to get to us tech support thats all
[12:34] <Stoneman> forums and wiki are very well document. i'm having a really positive feeling since using ubuntu.
[12:34] <akik> rpm_33: the first thing when i bought my last laptop was to make a recovery dvd even though i knew i wasn't going to use the windows os
[12:34] <scatterp> akik he should have a recovery partition on there
[12:35] <scatterp> rpm_33 if you set the router to G or even G only that could be tested i guess
[12:35] <rpm_33_> OK I'm back, router needed some downtime when switching from B onlt to G+B
[12:35] <rpm_33_> TJ this is a slightly different note - will this driver package also contain the nvidia drivers to use my excellent graphics card to its fullest? because eventually (once everything works!) i need that for fast matrix multplications.
[12:35] <TJ-> rpm_33: Whilst I get to work, please pastebin the results of "ls -l /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-7260*"
[12:36] <shoot2kill> rpm33
[12:36] <scatterp> TJ- what about madwifi driver ?
[12:36] <shoot2kill> you think i could get your help when you have time
[12:36] <TJ-> rpm_33_: The idea is to break out the individual driver packages; if they have packaged the GPU driver separately there is no reason you can't do that.
[12:37] <hateball> rpm_33: You should be able to get nvidia drivers from the additional drivers dialog in ubuntu as well
[12:37] <rpm_33_> TJ http://pastebin.com/wHYYnmiJ thanks
[12:37] <shoot2kill> TJ
[12:37] <shoot2kill> could i get your help
[12:37] <shoot2kill> please
[12:38] <rpm_33_> scatterp so i'm on B+G mixed, now what?
[12:38] <scatterp> rpm_33_ do you know who you are connected
[12:39] <shiin> I just unplugged one monitor and rebooted, now the cursor is back.
[12:39] <rpm_33_> scatterp sorry what?
[12:39] <shoot2kill> anyone here help me with a brightness issue
[12:39] <scatterp> rpm_33 by the way this is the card i would recomend http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/802-11A-B-G-N-300Mbps-Wireless-WiFi-Link-4965AGN-Dual-Band-MIMO-Mini-PCI-E-Card-/161738683134?hash=item25a86072fe
[12:39] <shoot2kill> with my puter
[12:39] <TJ-> rpm_33_: I think I see the reason the update crashed. The Dell OEM installer creates its own user account 'oem' and password, and uses that to run its own installers.
[12:40] <scatterp> rpm_33_ do you know if your connected now with b or g ?
[12:40] <rpm_33_> oh scatterp how do I check that?
[12:40] <TJ-> scatterp: not unless its paired with a 4.x kernel. It has terrible problems in 802.1n mode with excesssive retries and connection failures.
[12:40] <hateball> I'm running the 7260 in AC and it's excellent... the issue isnt the hardware...
[12:40] <scatterp> TJ- always worked for me with even support for sniffing
[12:41] <rpm_33_> TJ interesting, don't know why it would do that...
[12:42] <TJ-> scatterp: I've a fleet of 4965 and until 4.x we had to have them set to 11n_disable
[12:42] <scatterp> TJ- its always been my favorite card :D
[12:42] <TJ-> rpm_33_: did you get me that /lib/firmware/ listing? I don't see it in the backtrace
[12:43] <scatterp> TJ- he wasnt online i think when you asked one sec
[12:43] <rpm_33_> TJ this - http://pastebin.com/wHYYnmiJ ?
[12:43] <scatterp> rpm_33: Whilst I get to work, please pastebin the results of "ls -l /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-7260*"
[12:44] <TJ-> rpm_33_: that's interesting. You have more recent firmware versions that Dell ship :)
[12:44] <scatterp> rpm_33_ yeah
[12:45] <rpm_33_> scatterp TJ gotta say I'm pretty out of my depth here, don't really understand what's going on. interesting if you say so!
[12:45] <TJ-> rpm_33_: can you do "pastebinit <( uname -a; grep DMI /var/log/dmesg )"
[12:45] <x31tech> hello
[12:45] <shiin> http://askubuntu.com/questions/673592/invisible-cursor-when-using-dual-monitor it seems I am not alone with this problem
[12:45] <rpm_33_> TJ OK http://paste.ubuntu.com/12408232/
[12:46] <shoot2kill> woooow
[12:46] <shoot2kill> i fixed something on my own ...lol
[12:46] <shoot2kill> that is a first
[12:46] <auronandace> !yay | shoot2kill
[12:47] <TJ-> rpm_33_: firmware files contain microcontroller code specific to the embedded processors in hardware devices, which is totally different from the PC's main CPU instruction set, and often proprietary. It is the 'operating system' for the hardware's chipset. The Operating System driver loads it into the device and communicates with it to make the device operate. Sometimes the driver version and firmware version
[12:47] <TJ-> need to be compatible to avoid bugs
[12:47] <shoot2kill> well there ya go ....im learning
[12:48] <shoot2kill> only had ubuntu for a few days
[12:48] <shoot2kill> there is alot to take in
[12:48] <scatterp> shoot2kill yeah it takes a long time
[12:48] <scatterp> shoot2kill watch a lot of youtube videos
[12:49] <shoot2kill> will do.
[12:49] <shoot2kill> i do have one prob
[12:49] <shoot2kill> maybe someone can help with
[12:49] <shoot2kill> anyone on here heard of a game called day of defeat
[12:49] <ikonia> we can't if you don't tell us the problem
[12:50] <cfhowlett> shoot2kill, please don't ask "has anyone else ..." type questions.  state YOUR issue with YOUR details.
[12:50] <rpm_33_> TJ that makes sense - driver and firmware must be nicely in sync
[12:50] <TJ-> rpm_33_: I *think* we might have the reason. The "iwlwifi-7260-9.ucode" in the OEM package is a different size (larger) than the one on your system. That is *extremely* unusual - any changes they usually increase the version number.
[12:51] <kk_drop> I've configured dnsmasq to redirect all .dev domains to localhost. but this doesn't work for https methods
[12:51] <shoot2kill> there is a game i play called day of defeat in the option menu on the game there is a option to make the games brightness and gamma increased. since installing ubuntu the games brightness and gamma
[12:51] <kk_drop> is that possible?
[12:51] <TJ-> rpm_33_: Can you show me this: "pastebinit <( modinfo iwlwifi | grep firmware; grep 7260 /var/log/dmesg )"
[12:51] <shoot2kill> wont change
[12:51] <kk_drop> I've used this article: https://www.leaseweblabs.com/2013/08/wildcard-dns-ubuntu-hosts-file-using-dnsmasq/
[12:51] <scatterp> TJ- how did you even spot that lol
[12:51] <shoot2kill> i move it to full but there is no effect
[12:51] <TJ-> scatterp: By paying attention to the details :)
[12:51] <rpm_33_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12408263/ TJ thanks
[12:52] <rpm_33_> it baffles me. how did you guys get so good at this kind of stuff!?!
[12:52] <TJ-> rpm_33_: OK, that dmesg output didn't give me everything I wanted, let's try a bit more. "pastebinit <( grep 7260 /var/log/kern.log )"
[12:53] <shoot2kill> nods yes there good
[12:53] <scatterp> tj can you help me with my vnc problems after this if you have time ?
[12:53] <TJ-> rpm_33_: 35 years of hacking on hardware and code... you tend to pick up a few clues :)
[12:54] <rpm_33_> TJ lol thanks pastebinit <( grep 7260 /var/log/kern.log )
[12:54] <rpm_33_> whoops
[12:54] <rpm_33_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12408275/
[12:55] <estacado> hi
[12:55] <TJ-> rpm_33_: drat! you've got a kernel that no longer reports firmware loads. Try this please "pastebinit <( grep firmware /var/log/kern.log )"
[12:55] <rpm_33_> TJ ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/12408290/
[12:55] <estacado> is plasma 5 distros any good?
[12:56] <cfhowlett> estacado, there is not ubuntu "plasma 5" distro
[12:56] <cfhowlett> !flavors | estacado
[12:56] <cfhowlett> estacado, but if you are asking about kubuntu, many users love it
[12:57] <shoot2kill> thats the way that the world goes around sometimes ya up sometimes ya down
[12:58] <estacado> cfhowlett: ye I was asking if kubuntu with plasma 5 is stable
[12:59] <cfhowlett> estacado, I don't use it.  perhaps discuss in #kubuntu.
[12:59] <TJ-> rpm_33_: finally! but it gives the internal version number not the external, so I need to cross-check that: loaded firmware version <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:01] <estacado> cfhowlett: OK cause I'm on 14 LTS right now and thinking of a clean install
[13:01] <cfhowlett> estacado, no need
[13:02] <cfhowlett> estacado, sudo apt install kde-plasma-desktop                  then logout/choose kde/login
[13:02] <TJ-> !info linux-firmware trusty
[13:03] <estacado> cfhowlett:OK thanks
[13:03] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[13:03] <pbx> hardware brightness keys and xbacklight aren't changing backlight level. anything i might try hupping before i just reboot?
[13:04] <deepquestions> hi@ll, is there a solution to use the yubikey for login on ubuntu logon Screen?? (not the ssh-login, there is one .... i know.)
[13:04] <rpm_33> so as I see it, I possibly have issues with how my router is set up (ubuntu doesn't like it) issues with incorrect network driver/firmware, and the problems that many users report of suspend/resume dropouts.
[13:04] <deepquestions> help
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !help | deepquestions
[13:04] <shiin> The mouse pointer re-appears after logging out and logging in again.  I have several different firmware versions?
[13:14] <rpm_33> I should have mentioned that earlier on a Dell tehc support guy took control of my laptop on Win7 and did something to the wifi card firmware. Not sure what...
[13:14] <scatterp> rpm_33 possibly a firmware update
[13:14] <rpm_33> possibly
[13:14] <cfhowlett> probably
[13:16] <NegativeFlare> maybe
[13:16] <NegativeFlare> sorry I couldn't resist xD
[13:16] <MonkeyDust> perhaps
[13:16] <TJ-> rpm_33: Don't worry; I'm just ensuring that the files I look at here are the exact same as the ones your system has. Can you show me "pastebinit <( grep 'IWLWIFI_DEBUG' /boot/config-$(uname -r) )"
[13:16] <rpm_33> TJ http://paste.ubuntu.com/12408403/
[13:18] <cfhowlett> rpm_33, for comparison   http://termbin.com/gsvq
[13:18] <TJ-> rpm_33: So you can see what I mean here are the SHA1 hashes of the Dell OEM package files, and the files in the standard Ubuntu Linux kernel v4.2 installation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12408408/
[13:21] <rpm_33> TJ I think my kernel version is 3.9-something...
[13:21] <TJ-> rpm_33: It's taking me some time to convert the reported loaded firmware '<IP_ADDRESS>' to the filename version because the internal version is embedded in a binary header in the firmware; I'm currently reading the iwlwifi source-code to know the header structure. If CONFIG_IWLWIFI_DEBUG had been set, we could have set a module parameter to report the filename to us
[13:22] <TJ-> rpm_33: You have 3.19.0-28-generic
[13:22] <rpm_33> lol TJ yeah thats the one
[13:22] <HalfEatenPie> Anyone know how to have apache change the version of php being used?
[13:22] <rpm_33> TJ I've gotta say I don't really understand what you're doing but thanks somuch
[13:23] <scatterp> rpm_33 he is reading the programing code behind the firmware to see if an internal switch is on which will allow the file name thats being used to be reported back
[13:24] <MrElendig> HalfEatenPie: mod_php?
[13:24] <scatterp> Ben64 if you are still around DISPLAY command did not work when i changed 0 to 1 (0 is where i am working)
[13:24] <MrElendig> HalfEatenPie: the best way is to not use mod_php, but proxy to fmp/hvvm instead
[13:25] <MrElendig> HalfEatenPie: for mod_php you have to rebuild it
[13:26] <Zekey10_> Can anyone tell me how to install the file "jre-8u60-linux-x64.tar.gz" I have it sitting in my downloads folder already
[13:26] <scatterp> Zekey10 tar -zxvf jre-8u60-linux-x64.tar.gz
[13:26] <Zekey10_> ty :)
[13:26] <MrElendig> Zekey10_: why do you want oracle jdk?
[13:26] <AmitKumar> whenever i am installing any application in terminal it suggest me to run the update but in doing update it fail after updating few packages.
[13:26] <MrElendig> jre*
[13:27] <AmitKumar> suggest me something
[13:27] <MrElendig> Zekey10_: no you don't
[13:27] <MrElendig> Zekey10_: openjdk works fine
[13:27] <MrElendig> Zekey10_: it is the official reference implementation of java
[13:27] <MrElendig> AmitKumar: post actual errors
[13:27] <MrElendig> Zekey10_: same to you
[13:28] <cfhowlett> AmitKumar, do this:   sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:28] <AmitKumar> Failed to fetch cdrom://Ubuntu 14.10 _Utopic Unicorn_ - Release amd64 (20141022.1)/dists/utopic/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[13:28] <AmitKumar> showing like the above
[13:29] <MrElendig> Zeedox: you can do that with openjdk
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> AmitKumar  pster this line in a terminal, then paster the url here: sudo apt install pastebinit inxi; inxi -r|pastebinit
[13:29] <MonkeyDust> typos: paste
[13:29] <TJ-> rpm_33: I'm mapping this structure onto the raw firmware file image to find the version info: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/net/wireless/iwlwifi/iwl-fw-file.h?v=3.19#L71
[13:29] <cfhowlett> AmitKumar, 1.  14.10 is dead and no longer supported.  2.  your system is looking for the cdrom because you specified it as a source.  but 1 is the more important error.  install a supported version; 12.04, 14.04 or 15.04
[13:30] <rpm_33> maybe my ISP will give me a better router if I complain to them about this one not working
[13:30] <scatterp> rpm_33 they wont
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> oh, didnt see it's 14.10
[13:30] <AmitKumar> i have 15.04
[13:30] <cfhowlett> rpm_33, complain and demand = maybe
[13:30] <rpm_33> scatterp they replaced my aunt's dlink router with a better one when it wasn't wrking
[13:30] <MrElendig> Zekey10_: take the hint and stop /msg'ing :
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> ok, then do as i suggested
[13:30] <MrElendig> Zekey10_: also java -jar whatever.jar  I bet it works fine
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> AmitKumar  ^^^^
[13:31] <Zekey10_> It doesn't work fine.
[13:31] <rpm_33> TJ sorry I didn't really understand that at all. Do you need me to do anything else?
[13:31] <Zekey10_> It doesn't work at all
[13:31] <cfhowlett> AmitKumar, then you need to remove the 14.10 cdrom as a software source
[13:31] <MrElendig> Zekey10_: post actual errors
[13:32] <AmitKumar> how do i remove cd rom of 14.10
[13:32] <Zekey10_> "This jar file is not recognized"
[13:32] <MrElendig> so it is not really a jar
[13:32] <MrElendig> if you were in the correct path that is
[13:32] <Zekey10_> It is a jar, and i was in the correct path
[13:32] <MrElendig> what are you trying to run?
[13:32] <Zekey10_> OpenJDK just doesn't work for some jars
[13:32] <Zekey10_> (any from what i understand)
[13:32] <MrElendig> just because it says .jar doesn't mean that it is a valid one
[13:33] <Zekey10_> It's a valid jar
[13:33] <MrElendig> if it doesn't work with the reference implementation then it isn't
[13:33] <Zekey10_> It's certainly a valid jar
[13:33] <Zekey10_> that I'm sure of
[13:35] <TJ-> rpm_33: OK, your firmware has all zeros for the ver(sion) field, which means it is a newer type which uses struct iwl_tlv_ucode_header which is on line 148 of that LXR link I gave you
[13:36] <HalfEatenPie> MrElendig: yeah I'm using mod_php, but I'm trying to move from one PHP installation to another version
[13:36] <HalfEatenPie> right now I'm trying to loadmodule the proper php version library
[13:36] <rpm_33> TJ OK so what does that imply?
[13:36] <HalfEatenPie> can't find the location in the configuration though :/
[13:37] <MrElendig> HalfEatenPie: you have to rebuild mod_php against the php version you want
[13:38] <Knight80> Hello everyone
[13:38] <MrElendig> HalfEatenPie: what mod_php does is to embed the php interpeter inside apache
[13:38] <MrElendig> (whoever tought that was a good idea was insane)
[13:38] <TJ-> rpm_33: It lets me know that actual firmware version, as reported in the kernel log, is a little-endian 32-bit value stored at offset 0x48 (72 decimal) in the file :)
[13:38] <Knight80> Is there any way to remove the "Ubuntu options" entry from grub?
[13:38] <MrElendig> HalfEatenPie: so the only want to switch version is to rebuilt it
[13:39] <HalfEatenPie> Ahhhh
[13:39] <HalfEatenPie> damn it
[13:39] <HalfEatenPie> thanks MrElendig
[13:39] <HalfEatenPie> I was using phpbrew and whatnot to build the php version
[13:39] <madmanwithabox> Is there an official E-mail adress where you can give feedback to Ubuntu?
[13:40] <jakkio> Knight80: grub customizer
[13:40] <MrElendig> rebuild*
[13:40] <scatterp> madmanwithabox maybe<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[13:40] <MrElendig> Knight80: <insert text editor here>
[13:41] <madmanwithabox> scatterp: thanks
[13:41] <Knight80> jakkio Thank you. Is there any way to do that from the terminal?
[13:42] <rpm_33> TJ and so what do you do with that information. As I understand it you're looking through that driver package and working out which is the thing I need to install? lol baby questions.
[13:42] <scatterp> hi can anyone help me with vnc I have this xstartup http://pastebin.com/LP9DRjfx and get this result http://img.ctrlv.in/img/15/09/13/55f5765276208.png and http://pastebin.com/1vNRdtHz (logs) i do get a password prompt from vnc before the screen with what i would describe as odd colors and Ben64 suggests vnc is actually running but the screen is not pink as defined in the xstartup
[13:44] <Knight80> Ok, I already did it
[13:44] <Knight80> :)
[13:45] <scatterp> rpm_33 once the version is clarifyed tj can isolate if the problem you have is fixed in a later version and if you have the latest version installed
[13:46] <rpm_33> wow so that's a difficult process scatterp?
[13:46] <scatterp> rpm_33 quite
[13:48] <shiin> turns out it's a kernel issue with intel xeon cpu integrated graphics
[13:48] <shiin> I installed an old graphics card and the mouse cursor works now
[13:49] <hateball> rpm_33: are you staying on 14.04 for LTS reasons? otherwise you could upgrade to 15.04 and the kernel+modules there should be better (as that is what I am using)
[13:50] <ftz> hello
[13:50] <rpm_33> hateball This is my first exposure to Ubuntu. I used 14.04 LTS because that's what my laptop came with and I used the built-in tool to create an install-stick.
[13:51] <TomyWork> I'm trying to "apt-add-repository ppa:git-core/ppa" from a root shell behind a proxy. http[s]_proxy are set up properly and "wget -O - google.com" gives me something that definitely originated from google
[13:52] <TomyWork> yet apt-add-repository freezes for a long time while strace shows "connect(4, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(443), sin_addr=inet_addr("<IP_ADDRESS>")}, 16"
[13:52] <TomyWork> which is not the proxy, but a server that the tool tries to request directly
[13:53] <TomyWork> so how do i fix this?
[13:53] <ftz> hello?
[13:54] <Zekey10_> I have no usr/bin/java folder, but I just installed java :o
[13:54] <TomyWork> connect(4, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(443), sin_addr=inet_addr("<IP_ADDRESS>")}, 16) = -1 ETIMEDOUT (Connection timed out)
[13:54] <cfhowlett> !ask | ftz
[13:55] <TomyWork> <IP_ADDRESS> is launchpad.net, it seems
[13:55] <Zekey10_> I have no usr/bin/java folder, but I just installed java, any suggestions ?
[13:56] <jakkio> Zekey10_: make sure you have / infront of usr, so /usr/bin/java
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> Zekey10_  type   which java
[13:56] <Zekey10_> oracle jre 1.8.0
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> Zekey10_  and   whereis java
[13:57] <cn28h> also, it's unlikely /usr/bin/java would be a folder (directory)
[13:58] <Zekey10_> Java is/usr/bin/java/jre1.8.0_60
[13:58] <cn28h> interesting
[13:58] <Aqui1a> Hello. I'm about to install Ubuntu to my second SSD... do I need to worry about Ubuntu not detecting Windows 10 on my first SSD?
[13:58] <Zekey10_> I just purged OpenJDK to make room for oracle, but I don't know if I somehow messed something up along the way, lol
[13:59] <cn28h> Zekey10_: how did you install the oracle jre? isn't it just a tarball?
[13:59] <Zekey10_> yes through tar
[13:59] <TomyWork> okaaay, setting up the proxy variables properly does nothing. however, sudo -E apt-add-repository ppa:git-core/ppa worked
[13:59] <TomyWork> does not make sense :/
[13:59] <Zekey10_> but then when I tried to run a jar, it told me that I had no usr/bin/java
[13:59] <cn28h> ah, so that's how it ended up being expanded in /usr/bin ;p while this will work, it's unusual... and you will still need to set JAVA_HOME and update PATH accordingly
[14:00] <Zekey10_> How do you set Java home? via etc/environment?
[14:00] <cn28h> Zekey10_: yes, you want seomthing like export JAVA_HOME=/path/to/jre; export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH
[14:01] <cn28h> Zekey10_: and that said, there's no need to remove openjdk to install oracle -- you can set your environment to select which you want to use
[14:01] <Zekey10_> I just go by what I read on google, I have no clue what I'm doing xD
[14:02] <cn28h> ah ;p
[14:02] <cn28h> Zekey10_: personally, I put my oracle jdk in /opt but that's a matter of preference really
[14:03] <cn28h> Zekey10_: but regardless, if you set JAVA_HOME and PATH correctly, you can put it wherever you like
[14:04] <Zekey10_> How does one go about setting them correctly?
[14:04] <cn28h> well, what I just said -- in your .bashrc (or if you are doing a system wide install /etc/bash.bashrc) export them so that JAVA_HOME is the root directory of your java install
[14:05] <cn28h> and that PATH contains $JAVA_HOME/bin, probably in front of /usr/bin if you want to override any java that might be there
[14:05] <Aqui1a> Hey guys... I'm about to install Ubuntu on my secondary SSD. Is it alright if I make partitions for / and swap, and leave Ubuntu to automatically assign the rest?
[14:06] <cfhowlett> Aqui1a, yeah, that's kind of standard.  consider making a dedicated /home since you in there
[14:07] <Aqui1a> cfhowlett, I planned to initially, but I don't know how big I'd have to make it. I've only got a 120GB SSD for Ubuntu, you see...
[14:07] <Aqui1a> cfhowlett, I was thinking about making / 25GB... and the swap 8GB...
[14:07] <cfhowlett> Aqui1a, plain vanilla ubuntu = about 10 gb and swap is typically 1.5 - 2X ram.
[14:07] <cn28h> you don't have to allocate all of it fwiw.. if you use lvm, you can easily grow whichever partition needs more space (that's typically how I roll)
[14:08] <rpm_33> I'm looking at "how to create dell backup media" can anyone explain what is meant by this step: Overlay Framework  Next, you'll need a copy of the Dell factory content.  If your base image already contains this, you can use it from there.  Otherwise, it can be fetched using GIT.  Keep in mind that the GIT tree is fairly large, so it may take a short period of time for it to fetch.
[14:08] <mcphail> Aqui1a: if space is limited, don't create a separate /home (or, if you must, use LVM or btrfs so you can change it later)
[14:09] <livcd> can i install something (apt-get install) without actually starting the service afterwards ?
[14:09] <TJ-> rpm_33: I'm back; sorry for the delay. I have written a small C program to extract the FW version from the files since the versions embedded in the files I have seem to disagree with what your kern.log report said.
[14:09] <Aqui1a> cfhowlett, I've got 16GB ram so would that mean I'd be left with a 32GB swap partition? lol
[14:10] <mcphail> Aqui1a: and I haven't used a swap partition for a couple of years. You only need one if you plan on hibernating your system
[14:10] <jakkio> Aqui1a: you don't need swap with that much ram i would say, unless for hibernation
[14:10] <cfhowlett> Aqui1a, yeah, 16gb should be more than enough
[14:10] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: if you have 16gb ram and you don't want to hibernate, there's really no reason to make a swap partition
[14:10] <rpm_33> TJ no worries, thanks. Just tell me what I need to do.
[14:10] <Aqui1a> hibernate?
[14:10] <hateball> rpm_33: well personally I'd just use the software updater and tell it to offer regular releases as well as LTS, and then upgrade to 14.10 and then to 15.04. but if TJ- can help you fix the wifi for 14.04 that's cool I guess
[14:10] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: and if you do, 17gb swap would be enough
[14:10] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: yeah swap is used for hibernation
[14:10] <mcphail> Aqui1a: hibernate = suspend to disk
[14:11] <Aqui1a> I see
[14:11] <mcphail> Aqui1a: most people just suspend to ram or power down completely
[14:11] <Aqui1a> I don't even know if I'd be hibernating
[14:11] <TJ-> rpm_33: rpm_33 I've put the 64-bit executable on my site. You can download it with "wget https://iam.tj/projects/misc/iwlwifi_fw_version" then make it exeutable with "chmod +x iwlwifi_fw_version"
[14:11] <TJ-> rpm_33: source code - if you're interested - is at https://iam.tj/projects/misc/iwlwifi_fw_version.c
[14:12] <mcphail> Aqui1a: desktop or laptop?
[14:12] <Zekey10_> Can someone walk me through doing JAVA_HOME and path?
[14:12] <Aqui1a> Hmm.. So would you all recommend I just assign 20GB to root, and let Ubuntu automatically deal with swap and home?
[14:12] <Aqui1a> mcphail, It's my desktop computer
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> Aqui1a  and with rtcwake you can suspend and automatically wake up your machine after a period of time
[14:13] <Aqui1a> MonkeyDust, I see
[14:13] <mcphail> Aqui1a: I doubt you'd be using hibernate, then. TBH, hibernate is somewhat buggy and deprecated anyway. I'd just have a single large / partition
[14:13] <rpm_33> thanks how do I run it TJ?
[14:13] <Aqui1a> mcphail, I see
[14:13] <TJ-> rpm_33: "./iwlwifi_fw_version /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-7260-10.ucode"
[14:14] <dionysus69> I added /opt/firefox_dev to $PATH var, well terminal cant "see" direfox executable that I have added to that dir, so how do I remove it or what is the way to add direfox exe file in /opt/firefox_dev to PATH ?
[14:14] <rpm_33> returns: Type: TLV Version <IP_ADDRESS> /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-7260-10.ucode
[14:14] <ashish> hello all
[14:14] <Aqui1a> mcphail, so if I do manually create a large / partition, will Ubuntu automatically make a swap and home partition?
[14:14] <mcphail> Aqui1a: you don't need swap at all
[14:14] <rpm_33> Or if you prefer TJ http://pastebin.com/NRn0DWTv
[14:14] <TJ-> rpm_33: Thanks... that is interesting, since your kern.log reports "iwlwifi 0000:06:00.0: loaded firmware version <IP_ADDRESS> op_mode iwlmvm"
[14:15] <mcphail> Aqui1a: nor would I recommend a separate home
[14:15] <jakkio> Aqui1a: if you are not planning to use hibernate you don't need /swap because you have a lot of RAM
[14:15] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: no, /home will be a part of "/" and it will just warn you that you didn't create a swap and you can press continue
[14:15] <Aqui1a> mcphail, I understand, I'm just double checking that Ubuntu isn't going to make a ~32GB swap for me, without me knowing lol
[14:15] <mcphail> Aqui1a: :) - I always use manual partitioning
[14:15] <Aqui1a> Eric^^, Oh right...
[14:15] <TJ-> rpm_33: I wonder if this is the root-cause - somehow the wrong firmware image is being loaded?
[14:16] <rpm_33> So what - one part of my computer thinks the network firmware is version X, another part thinks its version Y?
[14:16] <Zekey10_> Can someone walk me through doing JAVA_HOME and path?
[14:16] <jakkio> mcphail: why do you recommend not having separate /home?
[14:16] <bsns> change gdm back to lightdm as the ubuntu's defalut setting,i cannot login in with the black screen,how to solve it
[14:16] <scatterp> rpm_33 yeah
[14:16] <mcphail> Aqui1a: If you're keen on a separate /home, have a look at btrfs. The ubuntu installer will create a separate / and /home subvolume in your partition, so you'll get the benefits without the headaches
[14:17] <mcphail> jakkio: micromanagement of partitions on small disks is a needless pain
[14:17] <TJ-> rpm_33: well, the file we *think* is being loaded (/lib/firmware/iwlwifi-7260-10.ucode) as reported by "modinfo iwlwifi" reports a different version to the firmware image loaded into the kernel
[14:17] <Aqui1a> mcphail: Honestly, I'm not that keen at all lol It's just, in the past I've ran into problems with Ubuntu running out of space while trying to update... I just wanted to make sure that doesn't happen
[14:17] <TJ-> rpm_33: I'm going to check the versions of all the files I have here, see if any match what your kernel log reports
[14:17] <scatterp> TJ- nice start to your course on your site i just read over it
[14:18] <mcphail> Aqui1a: that will be less likely to happen if you just keep everything under /
[14:18] <Aqui1a> mcphail: That's good to know
[14:18] <Aqui1a> mcphail: So if I'm just going to make a / partition, do you think 25GB is big enough?
[14:18] <mcphail> Aqui1a: no, use the full disk
[14:19] <Aqui1a> mcphail: o.o
[14:19] <jakkio> mcphail: ah ok, that's sensible. sadly i don't have issues with running out of space / micromanagement because i have no ssd :P
[14:19] <mcphail> Aqui1a: everything will be on that one partion (including your home directory)
[14:19] <mikhael_k33hl_> When trying to ssh, I get the error: Unsupported option "gssapiauthentication" Unsupported option "gssapidelegatecredentials", is there a package I need to install to have ssh support these options?
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> Aqui1a  what are you planning to do with the pc?
[14:19] <Aqui1a> mcphail: Assign the entire disk to /? Bloody hell...
[14:19] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: your /home will be a part of it too
[14:19] <Aqui1a> mcphail: lol I understand now
[14:19] <Aqui1a> Yeah I understand
[14:19] <mcphail> Aqui1a: that means "/ and everything under it" in other words the whole shebang :)
[14:20] <Aqui1a> MonkeyDust: Nothing too big... just, mainly getting used to it, doing some uni work on it etc.
[14:20] <mcphail> Aqui1a: the other advantage of using btrfs is you can easily add other disks
[14:21] <Aqui1a> mcphail: Interesting.. 'cause I have Windows 10 on my main disk. I thought GRUB2 would detect that anyway.
[14:21] <TJ-> rpm_33: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/12408782/  ... you'll notice the FW that matches your reported loaded version is 'iwlwifi-7260-12.ucode' but your 'modinfo iwlwifi' doesn't list that file
[14:21] <mcphail> Aqui1a: yes, but if you completely fill your ubuntu disk, you can add another disk to give you more space
[14:22] <EriC^^> Aqui1a: btrfs is a filesystem like ext4
[14:22] <mcphail> Aqui1a: you'd be amazed how much space some of the Ubuntu games take up these days :)
[14:22] <Aqui1a> xD
[14:23] <rpm_33> TJ. what's modinfo iwlwifi supposed to read out?
[14:23] <reisio> Aqui1a: what's funny I misseded it
[14:24] <TJ-> rpm_33: When we ran that earlier we looked at the 'firmware' lines and the only one for the 7260 is "firmware:       iwlwifi-7260-10.ucode"
[14:24] <TheMontyChrist> how do I disable proxy for certain hosts?
[14:24] <pbx> rpm_33, here's what mine looks like if it helps: http://dpaste.com/0X0D6JR
[14:24] <Aqui1a> reisio: Hello again ;p
[14:24] <mikhael_k33hl_> I'm using Ubuntu's preinstalled ssh(OpenSSH_6.7p1, OpenSSL 1.0.1j). It doesn't allow me to use gssapiauthentication and gssapidelegatecredentials though. error: Unsupported option "gssapiauthentication" Unsupported option "gssapidelegatecredentials". Do I need to install any other packges?
[14:24] <reisio> heyo
[14:25] <TJ-> rpm_33: I'm beginning to suspect you've somehow got another 'iwlwifi' driver hiding away somewhere on that system!
[14:25] <Aqui1a> reisio: I still haven't installed Ubuntu yet. I'm still going to do what you said, with the boot order/grub. I just got a bit concerned about partitions, and the partition sizes. xD
[14:25] <TJ-> rpm_33: can you do "pastebinit <( find /lib/modules/ -name 'iwl*' )"
[14:25] <mcphail> Aqui1a: the beauty of Ubuntu is, if you don't like the setup, it only takes a few minutes to reinstall (particularly on a SSD)
[14:26] <somsip> mcphail: references on here to GSS in relation to LDAP if that's what it is? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SingleSignOn
[14:26] <Aqui1a> mcphail: Yeah, that's true. It's also good having a separate drive, in case things get messy. lol
[14:26] <rpm_33> OK here TJ http://paste.ubuntu.com/12408833/
[14:26] <TJ-> Aqui1a: forget partitins, use LVM, but don't allocate all the space initially, then you can extent/reassign/create-new file-systems at will :)
[14:26] <mcphail> Aqui1a: yes - just make sure you install onto the right one...
[14:26] <Aqui1a> mcphail: haha
[14:27] <mcphail> somsip: ?
[14:27] <somsip> mcphail: meant for mikhael_k33hl_ sorry ^^
[14:27] <mcphail> somsip: :)
[14:28] <TJ-> rpm_33: Getting more confusing all the time! Nothing unusual there. Show me "pastebinit <( modinfo iwlwifi )"
[14:28] <jakkio> how does btrfs work with / compare to lvm? i've only ever used ext4 on lvm
[14:28] <mikhael_k33hl_> somsip: I'm not using LDAP though
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> !btrfs | jakkio
[14:28] <rpm_33> that's not a good sign! http://paste.ubuntu.com/12408850/
[14:28] <somsip> mikhael_k33hl_: I have no idea what GSS is, and have no wish to know more about LDAP. Just thought it might help
[14:28] <rpm_33> TJ ^^
[14:28] <Aqui1a> TJ-: That's something I'll keep in mind if this doesn't work out. I'm going to make my entire SSD a / partition. Which suits me fine. :D
[14:29] <mcphail> jakkio: btrfs essentially wraps the volume management withing the filesystem, rather than wrapping the filesystem within the volume management
[14:29] <Aqui1a> Anyway, I've put this off for long enough... I'm going to install it now. Thanks for the help, guys. Bye.
[14:29] <mcphail> aquaWeasel: enjoy
[14:29] <mcphail> aquaWeasel: sorry -nick failure :)
[14:30] <jakkio> mcphail: interesting, thanks, i shall have to read about it some more.
[14:31] <muelli> hey hey. I have a problem: Avahi just doesn't work™. When I do avahi-browse -a I don't see other hosts on the network.  I know that there are other hosts, because I have three machines on it. Two can browse the local network just fine. That one machine cannot :-/ Any hints?
[14:31] <TJ-> rpm_33: What does this report: "pastebinit <( dpkg -S /lib/firmware/iwlwifi-7260-*.ucode )"
[14:32] <rpm_33> TJ http://paste.ubuntu.com/12408870/
[14:32] <TJ-> muelli: avahi relies on Multicast; it is possible that something is blocking/disabling it
[14:32] <muelli> TJ-: fair enough. Any ideas how I could debug further?
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> muelli: all machines running ubuntu?
[14:33] <TJ-> muelli: I'd run tcpdump on the host(s) and watch for multicast packets, see if you can prove that the browser is searching and that the hosts are broadcasting
[14:34] <muelli> lotuspsychje: yes.
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> rpm_33: did you mention to TJ- that your wifi disconnects after closing laptop laid?
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> *lid
[14:35] <rpm_33> lotuspsychje yeah
[14:35] <jakkio> does anyone have any thoughts on how to best write random data to a partition (in preparation for encrypted data). it seems using openssl to write encrypted /dev/zero or using shred with one pass are about the same time wise, also tried writing /dev/zero to a a dm-crypt drive which was slower.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12408803/
[14:36] <TJ-> rpm_33: OK, everything you have installed related to iwlwifi appears to be standard for the v3.19 Linux kernel, and yet somehow the 'iwlwifi-7260-12.ucode' (version <IP_ADDRESS>) *appears* to be loaded by the 'iwlwifi' driver despite it only 'knowing' about file 'iwlwifi-7260-10.ucode' which is version <IP_ADDRESS> !!
[14:37] <TJ-> rpm_33: I'm convinced this seeming FW version mismatch is at the heart of all your problems but right now I'm at a loss as to how that iwlwifi driver is managing to load a firmware image it doesn't know about!
[14:38] <mcphail> jakkio: and using /dev/urandom isn't sufficient?
[14:38] <rpm_33> TJ well thanks for your help. I'm not sure what to do really. Tech support was hopeless.
[14:39] <rpm_33> Is there anything I can do with that package I downloaded
[14:39] <rpm_33> I realised I had messed up some of the instructions.
[14:39] <rpm_33> Im actually stuck on a different step now TJ
[14:39] <TJ-> jakkio: Use pure plain dm_crypt to create it and then use dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mapper/encrypted_partition bs=200M" ... that's the fastest way
[14:39] <TJ-> rpm_33: I'm not giving up, but I need a breather :)
[14:40] <rpm_33> TJ - yeah you earned. it.
[14:40] <rpm_33> Anybody else: I'm stuck on this step 4 http://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/19/SLN265886/EN#Packages - apparantly I need something from Git but Im not sure what?
[14:40] <TJ-> rpm_33: That Dell OEM driver package set won't install cleanly because it assumes you're using an older kernel version that shipped with 14.04.0  (v3.13) but you are on 14.04.03 and v3.19
[14:41] <TJ-> rpm_33: I suspect you'll get yourself into more trouble with that OEM driver package right now... many of the Ubuntu archive packages are later versions that are in that package
[14:41] <rpm_33> Oh right.
[14:42] <rpm_33> Goddamn. What a mess.
[14:42] <TJ-> rpm_33: hehehe ... let's see if there is anyone here who would offer to check my analysis/conclusions in case I've missed something
[14:42] <jakkio> mcphail: sufficient, yes, but also very slow. TJ- i'll give that a go, thanks
[14:43] <mcphail> jakkio: dd'ing from /dev/urandom should not be slow. Are you sure you have tried /dev/urandom rather than /dev/random?
[14:44] <muelli> TJ-: okay. On my host, I see packets leaving on my ethernet device.
[14:44] <rpm_33> TJ what about the 802.11G/N stuff. Is there something I can do to get that to run after each suspend/resume?
[14:44] <TJ-> jakkio: see the final paragraphs of this post: http://lists2.linuxjournal.com/pipermail/linux-list/2009-October/031224.html
[14:45] <jakkio> mcphail: yeah, i just started timing it actually (dd if==/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda4), once it's done i'll see how it compares to the others. sda4 is 2gb for reference
[14:45] <TJ-> rpm_33: We did that yesterday didn't we - creating the script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/
[14:45] <ubuntu> any1 here?
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu: 1800 users are
[14:45] <ubuntu> i am not getting menu in nautilus to share files on windows network...
[14:45] <ubuntu> i am not getting menu in nautilus to share files on windows network...
[14:45] <TJ-> jakkio: about 2 orders of magnitude slower using {,u}random to /dev/zero into the encrypted device
[14:46] <rpm_33> TJ oh right.
[14:46] <rpm_33> well thanks for all the help anyways guys
[14:46] <mcphail> TJ-: seriously?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> rpm_33: i would try the clean install + cable on + updates enabled during setup
[14:46] <TJ-> mcphail: ??
[14:47] <mcphail> TJ-: speed of writing random data. Great tip
[14:47] <jakkio> mcphail: TJ- : yeah, /dev/urandom just finished, 6m41 of which 5m35 was sys (so /dev/urandom) vs the times i posted in the pastebin - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12408803/
[14:47] <TJ-> mcphail: yeah! It's amazing, I used to use urandom until I discovered that trick :)
[14:47] <rpm_33> lotuspsychje - yeah well it might ahve to wait a while. need to do some actual work on this machine.
[14:47] <TJ-> rpm_33: where are you in the UK?
[14:48] <TJ-> rpm_33: I'm feeling the urge to tackle your PC in person, it is so frustrating trying to do it remotely!
[14:48] <rpm_33> TJ in london
[14:48]  * TJ- ponders ... 150 miles hmmm :)
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:48] <rpm_33> damn
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> rpm_33  i havent followed... what are you struggling with?
[14:49] <TJ-> rpm_33: I'll do some more thinking but it might come to that - I *never* let a PC beat me
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: he's got wifi disconnects after closing laptop lid iwlwifi
[14:49] <rpm_33> unstable wifi. kinda hard to explain all the nuances lol.
[14:49] <emnz> hello
[14:49] <rpm_33> TJ that's very admirable
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: on a dell
[14:49] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: apparently incompatible iwlwifi 7260 firmware version causing connection drops unless 802.11n is disabled
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> oh wifi... done helpdesk, i daon't even *start* troubleshooting wifi anymore
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> don't
[14:50] <rpm_33> MonkeyDust TJ has been deep into it, it's waaaay over my head.
[14:50] <emnz> my word ubuntu has come a long way, trying 15.04, first linux distro ive tried in several years
[14:50] <TJ-> rpm_33: Your supply of accurate data via pastebin made it easy :)
[14:50] <Guest74278> i am not getting samba menu in nautilus to share files on windows network...
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> emnz: most popular Os of the world :p
[14:50] <emnz> this is some really sexy shit
[14:51] <rpm_33> MonkeyDust also it's only on certain networks - Starbucks and Android tether were fine. Also lots of suspend/resume problems. But mainly it just refuses to connect much of the time.
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> Guest74278: tryed the #samba channel?
[14:51] <Guest74278> no
[14:51] <emnz> its finally usable for GUI kiddies like me
[14:51] <TJ-> rpm_33: as we're both on UK time it shouldn't be too difficult to co-ordinate more time to solve this
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | emnz for more offtopic talks
[14:51] <rpm_33> TJ well let me know when's good, you're doing me a favour here.
[14:51] <emnz> ubottu: my apologies, ill fire some questions at you later on, going to dabble a bit more
[14:52] <TJ-> rpm_33: I'll write up a concise analysis of what we've done and all the results so you can show it to others as well; no point someone else going over the same ground
[14:52] <rpm_33> Thanks man
[14:52] <emnz> lotuspsychje: what, seriously?
[14:52] <TJ-> rpm_33: right now it's breakfast time :)
[14:52] <lotuspsychje> emnz: ?
[14:52] <emnz> (16:50) <lotuspsychje> emnz: most popular Os of the world :p
[14:53] <rpm_33> I'm off to do something actually productive (since by some miracle i'm actually geting WIFI right now).
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> emnz: yes seriously
[14:53] <TJ-> rpm_33: yeah, good plan. maybe it'll get scared we're onto it and fix itself :D
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> i remember this business lady, who was going to sue the enterprise i worked for, because she had only 2 instead of 3 stripes in her wifi strength indicator
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:54] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: did you offer her a free marker pen to colour it in?
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> haha
[14:54] <emnz> lotuspsychje: most popular based on what? how can that be?
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | emnz come to this channel
[14:54] <emnz> u mean linux in general?
[14:54] <emnz> ok
[14:56] <rpm_33> you guys are a bunch of jokers! see ya.
[14:56] <rpm_33> TJ hopefully catch you around soon.
[14:57] <valeech> hi. I am having an issue with phpmyadmin installation on ubuntu 14.04. I install but when apache starts I get this error:
[14:57] <valeech> [alias:warn] [pid 32043] AH00671: The Alias directive in /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/phpmyadmin.conf at line 3 will probably never match because it overlaps an earlier Alias.
[14:57] <valeech> I have searched everywhere in my config files and I do not see a similar alias anywhere
[14:59] <SchrodingersScat> valeech: can grep -ri alias /etc/apache2/*   where alias is whatever the alias is
[15:00] <valeech> SchrodingersScat : I did a recursive grep and the only thing returned is the phpmyadmin.conf file in conf-enabled
[15:06] <mekhami> doesn't ubuntu 14.04 come with PHP?
[15:06] <reisio> the server version might
[15:06] <reisio> it's in the repos and easily installed regardless
[15:06] <reisio> but why not use a better, more secure alternative
[15:07] <mekhami> ?
[15:07] <reisio> almost anything
[15:07] <reisio> python, ruby, perl
[15:07] <Domaldel> Lovely
[15:07] <mekhami> yeah... idk why people ask questions like that
[15:07] <Domaldel> Any of you had any problems with installing steam?
[15:07] <ratrace> Domaldel: what kind of problems?
[15:08] <ratrace> mekhami: because PHP is so universally hated :)
[15:08] <ratrace> mekhami: then again, that question WAS stupid, indeed.
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> Domaldel: best to ask your specific issue to the channel
[15:08] <noorxbyte> hello
[15:08] <Guest78071> Hello all!
[15:08] <reisio> 'lo
[15:08] <Domaldel> Ugh, this is the help channel is it?
[15:08] <mekhami> ratrace: i'm no fan of it, but i have a job
[15:09] <noorxbyte> can I ask a question related to xubuntu
[15:09] <Domaldel> No off topic chat channel?
[15:09] <reisio> noorxbyte: dunno, can you?
[15:09] <k1l_> !ot | Domaldel
[15:09] <Domaldel> Thanks
[15:09] <ratrace> Domaldel: installing steam on Ubuntu and having issues with it is not offtopic here
[15:10] <mekhami> Domaldel: we just need to know more specifically what the problem is in order to help you ;)
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> noorxbyte: yes you can, or join #xubuntu
[15:13] <sl0b> hello
[15:15] <noorxbyte> ah yes
[15:15] <noorxbyte> so here is the thing
[15:15] <noorxbyte> i changed my xubuntu
[15:15] <noorxbyte> leave it
[15:15] <noorxbyte> bye
[15:21] <jakkio> TJ-: thanks for that link - my implementation of the cryptsetup method was slow due to not specifying a blocksize for dd. it does seem that the cryptsetup method is consistently slower than the other two methods i was trying though
[15:36] <edgy> Hi, I added this value /etc/sysctl.conf:net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_max = 262144 but when I reboot, it goes back to # sysctl -a |grep conntrack_max
[15:36] <edgy> net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_max = 65536
[15:40] <mekhami> i just installed vagrant via apt-get, and it installed an old version...
[15:42] <Aqui1a> Woop!
[15:44] <Aqui1a> mcphail, reisio, TJ-, MonkeyDust, and whoever else helped who I've forgotten to mention... Thanks, it worked. :P
[15:44] <TJ-> jakkio: I've always found /dev/zero many times faster than /dev/urandom
[15:47] <jakkio> TJ-: yeah, much faster than just writing random, but openssl or shred seem marginally (and repeatedly) faster. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12409166/ i'm not sure if they are as secure (and i'm assuming the write error from openssl is due to running out of space not something else rendering it not working)
[15:49] <TJ-> jakkio: you'd need to disable caching to get consistent timings though; without that you're only measuring how fast the operation runs into memory buffers
[15:50] <TheMontyChrist> networking question.
[15:50] <mcphail> Aqui1a: enjoy!
[15:51] <TheMontyChrist> when I connect to my webserver from work, it can resolve the name, on the other hand from the command line it can't
[15:51] <TheMontyChrist> anyway to resolve this?
[15:51] <TheMontyChrist> is said *resolve* not port
[15:51] <TheMontyChrist> s/is/I
[15:53] <scatterp> hey TJ- could you help me with a vnc issue if you have a moment to spare?
[15:53] <jakkio> TJ-: i see, could you suggest what i should search to find out how to do this?
[15:54] <TJ-> scatterp: Not right now; I've a rather pressing ecryptfs failure to debug :)
[15:54] <r00trunner> did anyone switch from ubuntu to mac or vice versa? what were your reasons? furthermore, are there any good tiling wms for mac os x (little off topic, i know)
[15:54] <marthelous> hi
[15:54] <scatterp> TJ- oh good luck :)
[15:55] <mekhami> r00trunner: you can use i3 with os x as far as i am aware
[15:55] <marthelous> i new to this chatroom so dont bite me
[15:55] <mekhami> r00trunner: i use both, they're pretty good
[15:55] <scatterp> TJ- did you ever do any truecrypt post mortem ?
[15:56] <Aqui1a> Quick question. In Grub, the option for Windows is called 'Windows Recovery Mode'. Is this meant to be like this?
[15:56] <r00trunner> mekhami: but its on top of mac's window manager right? you cannot subsitute it afaik. furthermore, afaik you can only execute x apps from within a tiler in mac os. can anyone confirm?
[15:57] <TheMontyChrist> resolve name works in web browser but not in command line - why would this happen?
[15:58] <Aqui1a> Sorry, not Windows Recovery Mode. It's called 'Windows Recovery Enviroment (loader)'
[15:58] <TJ-> jakkio: the easiest way is to have all the disk-write processes pipe their output over stdout to 'dd', and set it's conv/flags to use direct uncached I/O
[15:59] <jakkio> Aqui1a: not sure why it gets called that, but you can customise grub either manually or using grub-customizer and change it to whatever you want
[15:59] <Aqui1a> jakkio: It doesn't mean I've been booting into recovery mode all this time, does it? :P
[15:59] <TJ-> scatterp: truecrypt? in what way?
[16:00] <scatterp> tj well it all shutdown due to some kind of spy stuff it was all a bit murky and unclear thats all
[16:00] <jakkio> Aqui1a: haha, no it's fine as long as your windows is working as it was. i usually just rename it Windows and put any other windows / memtest stuff in an Advanced options folder int e menu
[16:01] <jakkio> TJ-: thanks, i'll check it out
[16:01] <Aqui1a> jakkio: lol Alright, thank goodness for that... I've renamed it to Windows 10 just now, using the customizer. Thanks for letting me know.
[16:03] <marthelous> hey anyone can tell me any best compiler for programming on ubuntu
[16:03] <rory> marthelous: what language are you programming in?
[16:05] <marthelous> i used to used eclypse
[16:05] <rory> You can get Eclipse for Linux. Look in the Ubuntu Software Centre
[16:05] <marthelous> but i cant find it for ubuntu
[16:05] <rory> I actually didn't know you could get Eclipse on anything *other* than Linux haha
[16:05] <bazhang> !info eclipse
[16:05] <ratrace> Eclipse is in Java, so...
[16:06] <rory> marthelous: sudo apt-get install eclipse
[16:06] <marthelous> thanks
[16:07] <marthelous> i'm currently majoring cyber security degree do anyone know if i would find a job with my associate degree also planing to get my bachelor's degree
[16:08] <ratrace> ask NSA
[16:09] <rory> marthelous: #ubuntu-offtopic is a good place
[16:09] <marthelous> thanks a lot
[16:10] <marthelous> Rony do know if i would find a job with associate on cyber security
[16:10] <zebu1er> Hi !
[16:10] <zebu1er> I fail to remove the package even with the best options :
[16:10] <zebu1er> dpkg --force-all --force-remove-reinstreq -r brscan
[16:11] <finetundra2234> hey folks, is it possible to get WM's like blackbox or fluxbox to have an entry in update-alternatives --config x-session-manager ?
[16:11] <ratrace> marthelous: that sounds like a joke, not  a serious degree
[16:11] <zebu1er> -> subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[16:11] <bazhang> ratrace, and marthelous to the chit chat channle please, not here
[16:12] <bazhang> !ot | marthelous
[16:13] <zebu1er> How can a package resist to uninstallation that way ?
[16:14] <Inoki> Anyone here who uses PGP with Evolution?
[16:14] <Janet_> hello
[16:14] <Janet_> Ubuntu customer support
[16:15] <ratrace> lol
[16:15] <JHOSMAN> Hello, i have this problem in the momment of install Lubuntu http://i.imgur.com/TuX4yRU.jpg powernow_k8
[16:16] <JHOSMAN> That comes before installing Ubuntu, booting from the CD
[16:17] <Janet_> I would like to know is there's a way of using Ubuntu to protect myself from Microsofts spying on me?
[16:17] <dontkillmeblabla> tes pengguna baru irc
[16:17] <dontkillmeblabla> hhe
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> dontkillmeblabla  it works
[16:20] <Khaotic> hey all
[16:23] <hackel> I have two swap partitions, one on SSD is set to priority 50, the one on my HDD is set to 2.  Whenever I reboot, the SSD priority is set to -1 and I have to manually turn it off and back on again at the correct priority.  Any idea why this might be?  HHD priority is getting set correctly.
[16:25] <rareranger> wait is swap on an SSD a good idea
[16:25] <jpds> rareranger: Why not?
[16:25] <rareranger> doesn't that seriously hack away at its lifetime
[16:25] <hackel> rareranger: That's old advice that no longer holds true.  Modern SSDs can hold up to plenty of use.
[16:25] <jpds> rareranger: It may have been a good idea like 4 years ago when they were first came out
[16:27] <huschke> did someone know,how i can change the clock color in xubuntu ?
[16:27] <huschke> config file ?
[16:27] <rareranger> alrighty then. I would personally only use the HDD though. I guess I'm just overly cautious.
[16:29] <rareranger> hackel: you can set the priority value in fstab
[16:30] <hackel> rareranger: HDDs are unbearably slow for swap.  The SSD is equipped to warn you if it's starting to fail, so it's easy to pop a new one in prior to a catastrophic failure.  Backups and all that...
[16:30] <scatterp> Ben64 thanks for the help solved it
[16:30] <hackel> rareranger: Yes, that's what I'm doing.  pri=50 on the SSD is ignored for some reason, but pri=2 on the HHD is set correctly.
[16:31] <hackel> I don't know why I keep typing HHD, I must be dyslexic today.
[16:31] <rareranger> hackel: heheh. thats weird though. let me check something out.
[16:32] <TheMontyChrist> how do I get nautilus to default to details view?
[16:33] <hackel> rareranger: The odd thing is if I use a "swapon -a" after booting up, it sets the priorities correctly.
[16:34] <ratrace> TheMontyChrist: in its Settings
[16:35] <ratrace> TheMontyChrist: preferences, actually. Tab "Views", then "View new folders using"
[16:36] <JHOSMAN> Hello, i have this problem in the momment of install Lubuntu http://i.imgur.com/TuX4yRU.jpg powernow_k8 That comes before installing Ubuntu, booting from the CD
[16:37] <rareranger> hackel: maybe you could add a command to reactivate swap again in rc.local
[16:37] <miraceti56> GHOST IN THE SHELL ARISE: PYROPHORIC CULT
[16:37] <ratrace> JHOSMAN: did you do what the error message suggested?
[16:38] <Pici> miraceti56: Cool, but I don't see what that has to do with Ubuntu.
[16:38] <miraceti56> :(
[16:38] <JHOSMAN> ratrace: I'm trying to update the BIOS from Windows XP SP3, but I can not, this error with MSI Utility for my motherboard. http://i.imgur.com/mXlPz7C.jpg
[16:39] <miraceti56> yes bad channel
[16:39] <tgm4883> JHOSMAN: where do you think you are?
[16:39] <ratrace> JHOSMAN: You don't have Cool'n'Quiet in BIOS?
[16:40] <ThatNewGuy> Hey guys, is there a way I can make my xubuntu look like manjaro?
[16:40] <JHOSMAN> tgm4883: I not understand =/
[16:40] <ThatNewGuy> I really love the green/dark theme it has
[16:40] <JHOSMAN> ratrace: I don't know
[16:40] <ratrace> JHOSMAN: did you check?
[16:41] <JHOSMAN> ratrace: I'll see the BIOS setup.
[16:41] <lift> I'm getting a "Serious errors were found while checking the disk drive..." on a mdadm/xfs /home mount.  Should xfs_repair be able to fix this?
[16:44] <JHOSMAN> ratrace: I have changed, and you're starting the CD. =)
[16:44] <TJ-> lift: it depends on the type of errors. Check the kernel log. It may be I/O errors.
[16:46] <platz> anyone know how to create a virtual "output" or "monitor" that xrandr would recognize as such?
[16:46] <JHOSMAN> Solverd! thanks ratrace  =) :3
[16:47] <platz> i read about a guy that ' was able to create a "virtual" display by adding a new mode to one of the disconnected displays listed in xrandr'
[16:47] <platz> but trying to use xrandr --addmode on a disconnected display didn't work
[16:47] <platz> wonder if that is the right way to go about it
[16:48] <edtoast_46> hi
[16:49] <lift> TJ-: Not seeing anything.  I see all 24 devices added to the md device.
[16:52] <lift> TJ-: wait, it might be mount options... :(
[16:53] <Thaurwylth> I tried some Google, perhaps my Google-fu is not strong enough. HP 408 Pro tablet Win 8.1 Atom Z3736F 32b. Would this work just fine with desktop Ubuntu and external kb? In general is it well Linux supported?
[16:53] <Wug> so what exactly does the nvidia-current package do
[16:54] <Thaurwylth> And why not also Ubuntu Touch, but I'm mostly interested in the desktop version port.
[16:54] <Wug> I've got an old laptop that's had ubuntu on it forever, currently running 14.04.3 (kernel is 3.13.something)
[16:55] <Wug> nvidia-current tries to install nvidia-304, which is absolutely not anything close to the most recent nvidia driver
[16:55] <ni> hey I'm on xubuntu, but I had the same problem on mint and ubuntu as well. The sound on my laptop is just pure shit compared to windows, I got the pulse equalizer which improved it a little, but it's still not great.
[16:55] <Wug> as such I have no idea what driver I should actually be using
[16:55] <ritztech> i got a high profile client that could land me a 150k job if i do something for him (or trying to) is there a way i can get a name from bad press off of google search
[16:55] <ritztech> i tried looking at removenames.com but not sure if theres a way to do other ways
[16:56] <platz> i've recently installed nvidia-355 and works fine, but you need to use a special ppa
[16:56] <platz> on a thinkpad t420
[16:56] <lift> Ubuntu 14.04 didn't like the relatime mount option for xfs, but was fine with noatime,nodiratime.  weird.
[16:56] <ass> hi all
[16:57] <platz> anyone know how to create a virtual "output" or "monitor" that xrandr would recognize?
[16:57] <lift> xvfb?
[16:57] <ass> anyone who know when facebook will be destroyed/removed ?
[16:57] <ass> When facebook will end ?
[16:57] <bazhang> offtopic here ass
[16:58] <ass> yes ofc it's offtopic but you are professionalist of any topic
[16:58] <ass> that's why Im asking
[16:58] <bazhang> ass take it elsewhere
[16:58] <ass> example ?
[16:58] <bazhang> not here
[16:58] <platz> hrmm, xvfb looks neat but i also want to 'switch' to this virtual display
[16:58] <platz> i.e. actually display it
[16:59] <platz> i guess i don't want a different X server, just a virtual monitor/output
[16:59] <ThatNewGuy> can i search for packages via terminal like on arch distros? pacman -Ss 'package name' ?
[16:59] <ThatNewGuy> just with the apt-get
[17:00] <bazhang> apt-cache search package ThatNewGuy
[17:00] <ThatNewGuy> bazhang, thx
[17:01] <Wug> ThatNewGuy: if you need to do any more complicated searches, such as finding which package provides a particular file, I recommend you look into apt-file
[17:01] <Wug> it's an auxiliary tool, not installed by default, but I use it a lot
[17:01] <bazhang> or simply /msg ubottu find