[00:25] <circuitbone> A classic roach motel pattern morganu
[02:13] <morganu> circuitbone, I dont know that phrase -- And it led me ona search and click click. That was a fun rabbit hole.
[02:13] <circuitbone> HEHE
[02:13] <circuitbone> oops
[02:13] <morganu> lets go to offtopic
[02:13] <circuitbone> #darkpatterns
[02:14] <circuitbone> At some stage most countries will legislate against a lot of the current trends of tricking you visually.
[04:10] <Guest4438> hi how can i install nodejs 14 on ubuntu?
[04:10] <Guest4438> i use: curl -sL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_14.x | bash -
[04:10] <Guest4438> and apt-get install -y nodejs
[04:11] <Guest4438> but that install nodejs v10
[04:11] <Guest4438> im confused
[04:11] <enigma9o7[m]> got a url for instructions you're following?
[04:12] <Guest4438> https://github.com/fujikosu/databricks_dev_env/blob/master/.devcontainer/Dockerfile
[04:12] <Guest4438> i needed ubuntu with python 3.8
[04:12] <Guest4438> i use that image now: brunneis/python:3.8.3-ubuntu-20.04
[04:12] <Guest4438> since than its not working any more
[04:12] <Guest4438> it install wrong nodejs version
[04:14] <enigma9o7[m]> that should work, dunno, but not sure how docker and stuff plays into it
[04:15] <Guest4438> i can try python:3.8-bullseye docker image
[04:15] <enigma9o7[m]> that script should have set up sources, you can check with `cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nodesource.list`
[04:15] <enigma9o7[m]> should be `deb https://deb.nodesource.com/node_14.x focal main`  (or change focal to jammy)
[04:16] <Guest4438> what to do?
[04:17] <Guest4438> now i get: #17 0.298 /bin/sh: 1: nodejs: not found
[04:19] <enigma9o7[m]> isnt it just `node`
[04:21] <Guest4438> oh
[04:21] <Guest4438> but nodejs worked before
[04:22] <Guest4438> thanks enigma9o7[m]
[06:57] <siRed> I can't turn on bluetooth, the toggle doen't work
[06:57] <siRed> i just installed ubuntu
[08:21] <azidhaka> Hi everyone! How do i set up keyboard layout switching (layout + key combo) from the console?
[08:51] <alkisg> azidhaka: example: setxkbmap -layout us,gr -option '' -option grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll
[10:39] <docmax> someone got audio working on steamdeck?
[11:32] <BlackMage> smb4k doesnt work
[11:33] <BlackMage> smbclient -L find shares but smb4k cannot mount these
[11:37] <oerheks> Try mounting with vers=1.0.  >> https://sourceforge.net/p/smb4k/discussion/help/thread/113faf07e0/
[11:43] <BlackMage> hm the mount never works
[11:43] <BlackMage> or list shares in smb4k
[11:44] <BlackMage> any idea?
[11:48] <oerheks> if vers=1.0 does not work, no
[11:53] <BlackMage> :(
[11:54] <BlackMage> for smb4k compile need i ECM(requested version 5.80.0)
[11:55] <bertieb> quick sanity check- 22.04 uses wayland by default out of the box, right?
[11:55] <BlackMage> where can i get these?
[11:55] <oerheks> bertieb, yes
[11:55] <bertieb> oerheks: thanks!
[11:56] <bertieb> (I _think_ it's causing issues with barrier, so I'll switch to xorg)
[11:56] <oerheks> BlackMage, what are you trying to do?
[11:56] <BlackMage> (in ubuntu 22.04 is only libecm1 7.0.4 installed)
[11:57] <oerheks> ecm was last seen in Bionic 18.04
[11:57] <BlackMage> trying to compile smb4k manual
[11:57] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ecm
[11:58] <bertieb> (wayland was indeed the issue, thanks for confirming)
[11:58] <oerheks> oke, have fun!
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:29] <mojomomos> fset irc
[13:29] <mojomomos> whoops
[13:46] <Zoa3333> Hi. Updating bios for asus tuf gaming 550 pro, am told to rename the cap file with the help of BIOSrenamer.exe in the same folder. Can I skip renaming it when using ez flash? Or get around it some other way
[13:48] <oerheks> Zoa3333, we don' t know? it is not really an ubuntu issue
[13:48] <oerheks> ask the vendor?
[13:48] <neff> Hello and good day.I help to install Ubuntu on my friend PC.But we face a error after instalation - IOAPIC not in IVRS table.We can't disable IOMMU,no such option in UEFI.What can be done in this situation?We succed run system with - amd_iommu_dump=1,but system works without GUI.
[13:49] <Zoa3333> oerheks: i'm having trouble finding someone using linux how to handle the exe file. but i will try email them i suppose.
[13:50] <oerheks> i would try the internal update tool in the bios.
[13:50] <oerheks> but if that takes an .exe, i don' t know
[13:50] <Zoa3333> agreed. been told by some it doesn't, and by others it does.
[13:55] <ravage> neff, did you continue to follow the steps on https://superuser.com/questions/1052023/ioapic0-not-in-ivrs-table ?
[13:55] <ravage> and also checked if there is bios update available?
Yep.But it did't work.And 3 is unreacheble for us.We can't disble IOMMU in BIOS/UIFI.No such option.
[14:00] <top1234> Hallo zusammen
[14:01] <top1234> Weiß jemand, wie ich mit "find" nur Dateien anzeigen lassen kann und die Auflistung nur der Ordner unterbinden kann?
[14:01] <top1234> Danke vorab :)
[14:01] <ravage> !de | top1234
[14:02] <top1234> ok thanks
[14:03] <ravage> but what you are looking for is "-f"
[14:04] <ravage> neff, the update did not succeed or did not fix the problem?
not fix the problem
[14:20] <ravage> which ubuntu version did you try?
[14:21] <ravage> and can you tell me which motherboard you are dealing with?
22.04 standart.Can't tell you now about motherboard,the friend offline
[14:23] <ravage> sometimes older version work better
[14:24] <ravage> like 20.04 or even 18.04. you can get some more years of updates for 18.04 via ESM
He used 20.04,but after update system fails.So we tried install newest version
[14:25] <neff> And it's not linux way to stop using something just because it's did't work :D
[14:32] <SteelRose> has anyone here installed OpenSearch on 20.04 LTS?
[14:32] <SteelRose> it throws an error when it starts up:
[14:32] <SteelRose> Jun 10 14:21:16 os1 opensearch[4461]: Likely root cause: OpenSearchException[plugins.security.ssl.transport.keystore_filepath or plugins.security.ssl.transport.server.pemcert_filepath and plugins.security.ssl.transport.client.pemcert_filepath must be set if transport ssl is requested.]
[14:32] <SteelRose> I'm using the official OpenSearch Ansible role to install it... thanks!
[14:33] <leftyfb> SteelRose: you'll need to seek support from OpenSearch
[14:33] <SteelRose> leftyfb: that was one of the ideas but I wanted to try my luck here first ...
[14:34] <oerheks> seams like a lot of work https://logz.io/blog/opensearch-tutorial-installation-configuration/
[14:36] <spire> Hello
[14:37] <spire> help me please
[14:37] <spire> I can't put my keyboard in azerty (fr)
[14:38] <spire> Ubuntu desktop 22.04 LTS
[14:39] <moha> Hi; Ubuntu is set to use dhcp and it can get an ip and understand dns servers (`systemd-resolve --status`); but, the command `ip r`does not returns the default route! I can set the gateway by `sudo ip route add default via <IP_ADDRESS>`, but after a reboot, it's lost; How can I set the gateway permanently while it's set for dhsp4?
[14:40] <ravage> spire, https://i.imgur.com/gIhnRKU.png
[14:40] <leftyfb> moha: what version of ubuntu?
[14:40] <moha> 20.04
[14:40] <moha> actually 20.04.4
[14:41] <leftyfb> moha: I would check your DHCP server (router) to make sure it's assigning the gateway properly
[14:43] <spire> ravage, thank you very much, it works I'm sad that I didn't succeed in the command line
[14:43] <moha> Ah, good point, maybe there's sth by them! But it needs follow-up with our network team, what about for now, can I set it permananetly?
[14:43] <moha> permanently*
[14:43] <leftyfb> moha: not unless you set a static ip, which I do not recommend, especially on a network you don't contro
[14:43] <leftyfb> control*
[14:50] <moha> leftyfb: thanks for that point
[14:54] <WaV> leftyfb: I don't remember how many days its been since I changed back to DHCP, but all appears to be working fine now. Just FYI.
[15:01] <noarb> is there a way to rotate the grub2 cryptodisk screen when unlocking a boot disk? I tried GRUB_GFXMODE="1080x1920x32". Is the cryptodisk unlock screen (with ubuntu branding) just a regular grub screen?
[15:06] <Lithium64> hi, after last kernel update the system is showing this error before booting https://termbin.com/ohxc6
[15:06] <Lithium64> I'm on ubuntu 22.04
[15:12] <tomreyn> Lithium64: The Linux kernel is reporting that it is trying and failing to access, read and interpret the BIOS provided "CPC" ACPI table. ACPI tables are a way for the operating system to exchange data such as hardware platform specific details and state information with the firmware/BIOS. CPC is the table containing information on Collaborative Processor Performance Control (CPPC). Which, if the data is available, can also be queried while
[15:12] <tomreyn> Ubuntu is running: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v5.2/admin-guide/acpi/cppc_sysfs.html
[15:15] <tomreyn> the latest version of the UEFI ('BIOS') specification has more info on CPPC: https://uefi.org/specs/ACPI/6.4/08_Processor_Configuration_and_Control/declaring-processors.html has more information
[15:15] <Lithium64> tomreyn, thanks, so I shouldn't worry about this error?
[15:17] <tomreyn> Querying this information fails on your system, which probably just means that your UEFI firmware does not provide it. It's probably not required for stable operation. Some functionality, such as system load based CPU frequency adaptation, or suspend + resume, may not work or not work reliably. It's possible that a newer version of the UEFI 'BIOS' available for your hardware provides a CDC table.
[15:18] <tomreyn> journalctl -b | grep DMI:      will tell you which version you have there.
[15:19] <SteelRose> oerheks: there's an Ansible playbook/role that does all that for you... but I'm hitting some walls...
[15:20] <Lithium64> tomreyn, ok, thank you
[15:21] <SteelRose> oerheks: wait... that link is for the dockerized version... not what I'm deploying ...
[15:34] <clarkk> I'm attempting to add an unstable version of a package. I've added its apt repo, but the latest version doesn't show up in apt list. How do I resovle this?
[15:34] <leftyfb> clarkk: don't
[15:34] <clarkk> :'(
[15:36] <enigma9o7[m]> Well either it's not there, or you did something wrong.
[15:36] <enigma9o7[m]> so figuring out which would be the first step
[15:36] <tomreyn> that's after you ensured this apt repository is actually compatible to your Ubuntu release.
[15:36] <leftyfb> clarkk: which package and why are you trying to add an "unstable" version of it?
[15:38] <clarkk> qbittorrent     sudo add-apt-repository ppa:qbittorrent-team/qbittorrent-unstable    There seems to be a package available for my ubuntu, which is 20.04   https://launchpad.net/~qbittorrent-team/+archive/ubuntu/qbittorrent-unstable
[15:39] <ioria> clarkk, apt list -a qbittorrent   what says ?
[15:39] <leftyfb> clarkk: why do you need the unstable version? What's wrong with 4.1.7?
[15:40] <clarkk> ioria, I actually did that before.  Only the following versions:
[15:40] <clarkk> qbittorrent/focal 1:<IP_ADDRESS>~202110311443-7435-01519b5e7~ubuntu20.04.1 amd64
[15:40] <clarkk> qbittorrent/focal 4.1.7-1ubuntu3 amd64
[15:40] <clarkk> leftyfb, they've just merged a feature that I've been waiting for forever
[15:40] <ioria> clarkk, focal has 4.1.7-1ubuntu3 only
[15:41] <clarkk> ioria, what about 4.4.0~202106230113-7327-124cc9621~ubuntu20.04.1 ?
[15:41] <oerheks> <IP_ADDRESS> is from -stable
[15:41] <tomreyn> the PPA's package has a date/timestamp on it, referring to october 2021. if the feature was "just added" then it won't be in there.
[15:42] <clarkk> tomreyn, I understand that. I just want to set it up now so I get it when released
[15:42] <enigma9o7[m]> `apt policy qbittorrent`
[15:42] <oerheks> 4.5.0 is build a few hours ago, clarkk, so wait for the 20.04 version
[15:43] <oerheks> sofar 22.04 and 21.04 only
[15:43] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~qbittorrent-team/+archive/ubuntu/qbittorrent-unstable
[15:43] <clarkk> oerheks, ok, thanks, but I still don't understand why I can't see 4.4.0~202106230113-7327-124cc9621~ubuntu20.04.1.  That's for my system, isn't it?
[15:44] <oerheks> yes, that part is weird
[15:44] <oerheks> did you run apt update after adding, to get fresh lists?
[15:45] <oerheks> else, are there packages held back, that needs apt dist-upgrade ?
[15:46] <clarkk> oerheks, yes, I ran update. How can I tell if any packages are held back?
[15:47] <oerheks> pastebin the output of; sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[15:47] <jhutchins> Pay attention to the output when the upgrade is running?
[15:48] <oerheks> basicly i see no reason why the package does not show up, after apt update
[15:48] <tomreyn> 4.4.0~202106230113-7327-124cc9621~ubuntu20.04.1 is only released for focal as a source, not a binary (amd64) package
[15:49] <oerheks> oh good spot
[15:49] <tomreyn> i.e. the package is not mentioned in https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/qbittorrent-team/qbittorrent-unstable/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz
[15:49] <oerheks> 	There were build failures. amd64 arm64 armhf
[15:50] <oerheks> 4.5.0 passed ..
[15:50] <clarkk> tomreyn, interesting. How do I find that out in future?
[15:51] <clarkk> that there's no binary?
[15:51] <tomreyn> clarkk: you familiarize yourself with the structure of an apt repository, maybe starting with the url i posted above.
[15:51] <oerheks> click on ' View package details '  , then you get https://launchpad.net/~qbittorrent-team/+archive/ubuntu/qbittorrent-unstable/+packages
[15:51] <enigma9o7[m]> https://launchpad.net/~qbittorrent-team/+archive/ubuntu/qbittorrent-unstable?field.series_filter=focal
[15:51] <enigma9o7[m]> Yeah I have the same question.  Looking at that page I just linked, it seems like its there.
[15:51] <enigma9o7[m]> That the package is there anyway.
[15:52] <tomreyn> clarkk: oerheks' approach is probably the better one to take for PPAs
[15:52] <Guest18> hello, guys! what should i do with a stock ubuntu:18.04 in order to enable bash completion?
[15:53] <oerheks> bash completion, it works here after 3 letters + tab
[15:53] <tomreyn> Guest18: sudo apt update && sudo apt install bash-completion
[15:53] <enigma9o7[m]> sudo apt install bash-completion
[15:53] <bomb> hello. can anyone share ulimit -a output, if it's default?
[15:53] <bomb> I got it modified, I want to revert back to the defaults
[15:54] <clarkk> tomreyn, " familiarize yourself with the structure of an apt repository"  That's a bit harsh, considering I literally didn't know what I'm looking for.
[15:54] <clarkk> oerheks, thanks for your empathy. I see it now
[15:54] <enigma9o7[m]> maybe while yer at it you wanna `sudo apt install -y command-not-found && sudo apt-file update && update-command-not-found`
[15:55] <enigma9o7[m]> oh sudo on the last one too
[15:55] <ioria> clarkk, is that a container ?
[15:56] <clarkk> ioria, sorry, what do you mean?
[15:56] <oerheks> i thought bash-completion is standard installed?
[15:57] <ioria> clarkk, docker or similar
[15:57] <clarkk> no
[15:57] <Guest18> yes, i tried this, but after that it doesn't seem to work for programs with custom completion files. in fact `apt-get install bash-completion` finished with the following message "find: '/etc/bash_completion.d/': No such file or directory".
[15:57] <ioria> clarkk, ok, nvm
[15:57] <Guest18> and even if you create the directory manually and put some custom autocomplete script it doesn't work.
[15:57] <Guest18> is it really enabled by default?
[15:58] <oerheks> Guest18, what linux is this?
[15:58] <Guest18> ubuntu:18.04 using docker image.
[15:58] <clarkk> Thanks a lot oerheks, tomreyn, ioria, leftyfb - I feel I learned something today. :)
[15:58] <oerheks> have fun clarkk
[15:59] <oerheks> docker image is a minimal setup, hence it is not installed.
[15:59] <oerheks> you should have mentioned that detail
[16:01] <Guest18> is it enabled by default on regular versions and is `/etc/bash_completion.d/` present when you install the package on regular version, because as i mentioned i got this message after installing `bash-completion` package "find: '/etc/bash_completion.d/': No such file or directory".
[16:02] <oerheks> one reason it crashes is an unexpected newline https://stackoverflow.com/questions/53407201/bash-compl-and-bash-completion-no-such-file-or-directory
[16:08] <Guest18> oerheks, it is a stock ubuntu container i doubt there are some errors in those files. i tried running `bash -n <file>` for those mentioned in the article, but i didn't get any errors. also the problem is not that i get this error on each new shell session, it is shown after installing bash completion `apt-get -yq install bash-completion`.
[16:10] <oerheks> Guest18, then i have no clue there, try the docker channel?
[16:11] <Guest18> is there a way to enable the bash completion on stripped version like docker using command line, not editing files directly? what i mean is where should be the entrypoint which enables the bash completion?
[16:11] <Guest18> oerheks, is there a way to enable the bash completion on stripped version like docker using command line, not editing files directly? what i mean is where should be the entrypoint which enables the bash completion?
[16:14] <leftyfb> Guest18: why do you need bash_completion on a docker container? Those aren't typically something you shell into and mess with often. Kinda defeats the purpose
[16:17] <Guest18> leftyfb, depends on what you use the container for. sometimes you might want to have autocompletion just for convenience.
[16:30] <transhumanist> Hi! can anyone tell me whats wrong with this script function? https://bpa.st/Z5YQ
[16:31] <leftyfb> transhumanist: you want #bash
[16:31] <leftyfb> transhumanist: but also, maybe specify the issue
[16:34] <oerheks> and what errors does it generate?
[16:34] <transhumanist> nm I fixed it stupidly forgot the apt get  ' update' << part of it
[18:41] <goddard> so im testing out an eGPU
[18:41] <goddard> it works
[18:41] <goddard> which is awesome
[18:41] <goddard> but it isn't super responsive unless I am in a game or something
[18:41] <goddard> gnome shell is super slow
[18:42] <tomreyn> do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:42] <goddard> tomreyn: hi tom, my name is goddard.  I just spoke to you about my ubuntu support question.  It is pretty clear, but let me know if I should elaborate for you.
[18:43] <oerheks> too little details, and even i see no question
[18:43] <tomreyn> goddard: please elaborate your ubuntu support question for me.
[18:43] <goddard> I see.
[18:43] <tomreyn> (and for anyone else)
[18:45] <goddard> Well since Gnome is slow, this would indicate I would like it to be faster.  I didn't think this was difficult to understand, but let me elaborate further.  Since it is slow, and seeing as how I am using an eGPU, which I indicated earlier, it is evident that in this setup, gnome is slow.  Basically to sum this all up and give it a nice conclusion.  I would like Gnome to not be slow.  Now here comes
[18:45] <goddard> the direct quesiton.  Does anyone know of settings you can adjust to eliminate the slowness.  Let me know if I can elaborate further.  Thanks, Goddard.
[18:45] <oerheks> good luck
[18:45] <enigma9o7[m]> Rofl.
[18:45] <goddard> :D
[18:46] <tomreyn> isn't there a make_gnome_not_slow boolean you can set in ~/.config/gnome.cnf?
[18:46] <enigma9o7[m]> Yeah open settings panel, go to speed, set on "high".  by default it starts on "super slow".
[18:46] <descent1> turn off desktop effects jk
[18:47] <goddard> Hey my computer in the 1980s had a turbo button
[18:48] <goddard> This script is amazing by the way
[18:48] <goddard> https://github.com/hertg/egpu-switcher#ubuntu-apt
[18:48] <goddard> It helped me generate a working configuration with no fuss.
[18:49] <goddard> Even when switching between prime modes of performance and on-demand it made no difference.
[18:50] <goddard> Does anyone know how you ask a question about something that you don't know about?
[18:50] <goddard> Just curious because it seems in this channel maybe that is what you are expecting?
[18:51] <goddard> Just so everyone knows.  If I don't know something, I can't ask you about it.  Because I actually don't know about it.
[18:51] <oerheks> that script is designed for x11, boring
[18:51] <jhutchins> goddard: You have to define slow.  For me, slow means it takes more than 24 hours after you submit your card deck before the card deck and the printed output are returned.
[18:51] <tomreyn> goddard: you just claimed to have asked a question about something you don't know soething about, so apprently you know how that works.
[18:52] <goddard> jhutchins: the interface, mouse, everything except for games is slow so far in my testing.
[18:52] <jhutchins> goddard: Slow compared to what?
[18:52] <goddard> jhutchins: egpu is not connected versus connected
[18:54] <descent1> is it slow in other desktop environments
[18:54] <jhutchins> Sign at the speed shop in Mad Max: "Speed costs money, how fast do you want to go?"
[18:55] <goddard> It probably isn't something everyone can afford in this channel, but I think it is a cool setup if gnome wasn't so slow.  It is like refresh rate is set to 15 or something, but it is actually set to 60 so not sure.
[19:00] <goddard> This page seems to suggest it might be fixed on wayland
[19:00] <goddard> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/348
[19:00] <goddard> I wonder about X11
[19:02] <oerheks> you repeat a bug from 3 years ago.
[19:02] <oerheks> why? what is your point with that?
[19:03] <goddard> oerheks: indeed i did thanks for see that
[19:03] <goddard> hmm...what is my point?
[19:03] <goddard> let me think
[19:03] <goddard> oh I know, maybe to see if anyone has an idea if this bug has been fixed or not
[19:08] <goddard> oh here is something newer
[19:08] <goddard> https://github.com/ewagner12/all-ways-egpu
[19:08] <goddard> put that in your mental rolodex
[19:10] <oerheks> good wayland.
[19:11] <oerheks> also it points to the other x11 solution, gswitch
[19:11] <goddard> i thought i remember seeing a thunderbolt panel in the gnome settings app
[19:11] <goddard> was that an older version of ubuntu?
[19:12] <tomreyn> older than what? did you ever specify what you're asking about?
[19:12] <nonix4> How do I make _clean_ shutdown/reboot easier than sysrq-reisub when ssh-option isn't available and gfx drivers are dead?
[19:12] <nonix4> (while still requiring some form of auth)
[19:13] <tomreyn> nonix4: serial console, netconsole, but more likley: not
[19:13] <tomreyn> you can try to just switch to a tty and then press ctrl-alt-del though
[19:13] <oerheks> nonix4, without display, not? type blind;  ctrl alt T ; sudo shutdown -n now
[19:15] <nonix4> ... also regarding gfx drivers being dead, should the related kernel BUG log entry be reported (for LTS)? Post-resume bug with a slowly-reacting monitor involved in DP1.2 MST setup.
[19:16] <nonix4> c-a-T won't do much when lockscreen on. And semi-hard to differentiate between lockscreen being on or not without a display.
[19:18] <tomreyn> nonix4: if you're convinced it's not due to a broken bios, and maybe even then, i'd say say. unless it already is, of course.
[19:18] <sarnold> nonix4: systemd has some watchdog support; I don't know if you can really fine-tune what's available to work well enough with graphics, it's normally more about services that stop working..
[19:27] <nonix4> tomreyn: well, with decade old motherboard bios... wish they'd actually publish proper changelogs :-/ Pretty certain if bios upgrade manages to brick it, only DIY unbrick methods available. But the amdgpu does have somewhat buggy track record when it comes to MST, so wouldn't be surprised if there were bugs left in that area. Guess I'll need to acquire yet another server MB for redundancy so I could
[19:28] <nonix4> actually do that bios upgrade without unnecessary risks.
[19:29] <tomreyn> no dual-bios yet?
[19:33] <tim1> Hello
[19:43] <nonix4> tomreyn: well, bios was upgraded in the past to support the cpu used, which original bios version didn't support at all. And the bios upgrade tools might refuse to boot from nvme, so might need to find some older media for the bios update, unless it supports tftp ramdisks / etc? "CrashFree BIOS 3" docs only refer to older media types like dvd and usb.
[19:48] <goddard> well I am sure you all are dying to know, but wayland has better performance.
[19:49] <goddard> still not as good as I would have hoped though
[19:49] <goddard> does google "online accounts" have a bug right now?
[19:50] <goddard> in gnome settings
[19:50] <tomreyn> nonix4: this sounds old. maybe try ##hardware
[19:52] <jhutchins> goddard: Maybe you need a nitrous injection system.
[19:52] <sarnold> VROOM
[19:53] <goddard> jhutchins: i think i just need an all electric system
[19:53] <jhutchins> goddard: No steam?
[19:53] <goddard> beat any nitrous injection system off the line
[19:53] <goddard> you see that model y with 6 people in it beat the porcse
[19:55] <goddard> cyber truck is gonna be awesome
[19:56] <nonix4> tomreyn: C206 MB with xeon E3-v2 family cpu, retrofitted with recent nvme and amdgpu navi. RIP: 0010:dm_update_crtc_state+0x75a/0x7b0 [amdgpu] <-- that at least is in the function where I'd expect it to be when monitors are responding slowly.
[19:57] <terminalpusher> what do I do after I did  `sudo rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*`?
[19:57] <terminalpusher> how do I restore the files?
[19:57] <goddard> copy from a working system?
[19:57] <terminalpusher> I have no other
[19:57] <terminalpusher> are you saying there is no way to recover them?
[19:57] <tomreyn> restore the backup
[19:58] <jhutchins> terminalpusher: Copy them from the backup you made before messing with the system?
[19:58] <terminalpusher> it's what I get for copy pasting random rm rf commands https://stackoverflow.com/a/71619539/15415674
[19:58] <jhutchins> terminalpusher: Nobody's going to make backups for you.
[19:58] <goddard> on my system all that stuff is custom sources actually
[19:59] <jhutchins> terminalpusher: Yeah, that's a pretty well-known way to practice running the installer.
[19:59] <jhutchins> !sources.list
[19:59] <nonix4> (somewhat wishing there was a way to decouple session/applicaton state more or less entirely from hardware state... and do stuff like live-migrate the wayland apps to other host... sure, that'd have non-trivial requirements on the network setup too)
[19:59] <goddard> maybe you could reverse engineer what is missing from synaptic obsolete or something?
[20:00] <goddard> just re-add them manually
[20:01] <tomreyn> terminalpusher: if you didn't run "apt update" since, you can look at /var/lib/apt/lists/
[20:02] <tomreyn> this should at least hint on what you had configured
[20:02] <terminalpusher> all of those directories and files seem to be empty
[20:03] <tomreyn> you or your system did run an apt cache update since.
[20:04] <nonix4> hmm, ubuntu-bug without arguments given doesn't know about wayland. Does wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze apply to Wayland too, or is something related expected to appear under /Wayland/...?
[20:06] <tomreyn> try xwayland
[20:08] <tomreyn> unfortunately, much documentation on wiki.ubuntu.com is old. this doesn't mean it is necessarily no longer applicable. but sometimes mechanics have changed since.
[20:08] <tomreyn> especially for Xorg, I don't expect much change, though.
[20:09] <tomreyn> you probably won't find much documentation on (X)Wayland there, however. Maybe some on help.ubuntu.com or community.ubuntu.com
[20:10] <goddard> best place I always find answers is #linux or askUbuntu or ArchWiki surprisingly :D
[20:13] <nonix4> I guess ubuntu-bug may need some extra features to properly support wayland... at least it tags those wayland-session. Bug SourcePackage xorg might be a bit off.
[20:18] <tomreyn> hmm, maybe libwayland-server0 would have been more appropriate then
[20:37] <anthony1> Hi
[20:38] <tomreyn> hi anthony1
[20:38] <anthony1> This is my firts time in irc channel
[20:39] <anthony1> One question how do I get out to go to another server
[20:39] <tomreyn> welcome then! this one is specifically about ubuntu support Q&A, but there are others, in case that's not what you are looking for.
[20:39] <anthony1> One more question, how do I see the available channels?
[20:39] <oerheks>  /quit will do
[20:40] <leftyfb> !alis | anthony1
[20:40] <tomreyn> anthony1: do you know which IRC application you are using? or are you on a website?
[20:41] <anthony1> Weechat
[20:41] <tomreyn> so ask alis about weechat, chances are there is a separate channel for it, and they can help with your first steps
[20:42] <tomreyn> i.e.:    /msg Alis list weechat
[20:42] <anthony1> Really thanks for yours help i am back sometimes
[20:53] <jhutchins> goddard: I'm really surprised you're not running gentoo.
[20:54] <jhutchins> anonymip: There's definitely a weechat web site that has tutorials, FAQs, network and channel lists, and other useful information.
[20:54] <oerheks> mip mip
[20:54] <jhutchins> anonymip: Nevermind, antother hit and run.
[20:58] <nonix4> tomreyn: actually looking at the source code having no less than 5 TODOs of varying severity in that particular function (for HEAD of mainline), just a kernel bug report could be closer match; unlikely to actually depend on whether x.org or wayland is used.
[21:34] <cbreak> hmm... aren't snaps supposed to update automatically?
[21:34] <cbreak> I got a message notifying me to restart firefox for updates, and I only have 13 days left to do that
[21:35] <cbreak> I restarted firefox several times since then, and still have 101.0 canonical002 - 1.0
[21:35] <cbreak> snap info says I have installed:          101.0-2                 (1406) 170MB -
[21:36] <cbreak> it also tells me latest/stable:    101.0.1-1    2022-06-09 (1443) 170MB -
[21:36] <oerheks> sudo snap refresh
[21:37] <cbreak> hmm... I tried snap refresh several times
[21:37] <cbreak> it asked for my admin password and didn't do anything with it other than saying up-to-date
[21:37] <cbreak> let's see if it works differently as root
[21:37] <oerheks> yes
[21:38] <cbreak> ah, indeed it did
[21:38] <oerheks> oke have fun!
[21:38] <cbreak> thanks :)
[21:38] <cbreak> wonder why it didn't auto-update
[21:39] <cbreak> I think it noticed that there is something newer
[21:40] <murmel> tomreyn: yes I do run ubuntu
[21:42] <murmel> tomreyn: file against linux-meta?
[21:43] <tomreyn> murmel: hmm, i forgot, give it a try, it can always be moved later.
[21:44] <murmel> tomreyn: let's see as my other bug wasn't reacted to (even with a fix included) :)
[21:45] <tomreyn> murmel: there is also #ubuntu-kernel (but it may not be busy during the weekend)
[21:45] <rinzewind> Hi. I've just updated from Ubuntu 18.04 -> 20.04 -> 22.04 and everything went well, but there're two things that are driving a bit crazy. I'm using XFCE. 1) The network indicator menu blinks when I click on it, which makes it entirely unusable. If I disable the wifi, it stays quite. 2) When using the Spanish keyboard layout, I can see the accent (') being written before I type the vowel, which looks
[21:46] <rinzewind> quite ugly. I don't know if this behavior can be changed somewhere.
[21:46] <rinzewind> The accent issue happens only on the XFCE terminal, not on Firefox, rxvt or xterm, that I've tested. But I'm not able to find the setting that controls that.
[21:50] <tomreyn> rinzewind: in case you can't seem to get a response to this here, try in #xubuntu, too (and read the /topic there for other option to get help).
[21:52] <rinzewind> tomreyn: I'll try there, thanks
[21:54] <murmel> tomreyn: posted bug, let's see :). the only confusing part to me was on launchpad you can only find linux-meta, but when using ubuntu-bug, you need to post it against linux :(
[21:58] <tomreyn> murmel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/
[22:00] <murmel> tomreyn: when I was searching for it, it only gave me linux-meta
[22:00] <tomreyn> murmel: what do you mean by "gm kernel"?
[22:01] <murmel> golden master, as in which ubuntu 22.04 was released
[22:01] <murmel> with
[22:02] <tomreyn> i see, thanks.
[22:10] <tomreyn> murmel: about your other bug report, maybe also ask in #ubuntu-cloud (during business days) whether they have a workaround / alternative, known working, approach
[22:10] <murmel> tomreyn: i mean workaround is dl the image and then importing them
[22:11] <tomreyn> right, i just realized :)
[22:12] <tomreyn> if it's in the current working directory, it should still work
[22:18] <goddard> how would you all debug a visual stutter?
[22:43] <gloin> Usuing 20.04.4 here, how do I get Evolution to not show any dark backgrounds? I've got Gnome set to a light theme (have tried several) but still the message list, message headers, and border around the message is using dark mode. Here's what I mean: https://i.imgur.com/xJuR5wI.png
[23:24] <gloin> it really seems like evolution is not respecting themeing at all, even with gnome-tweaks
[23:28] <sarnold> gloin: theming is surprisingly contentious.. https://stopthemingmy.app/
[23:28] <sarnold> gloin: I don't know how much of what you're seeing is intentional vs unintentinoal
[23:28] <gloin> Be nice if Evolution supported its own theming, but the way this looks right now is just plain fugly
[23:29] <gloin> sarnold: did you see my screenshot above?
[23:29] <sarnold> gloin: yeah, it looked pretty fugly :)
[23:30] <Unit193> I usually have better luck, looks wise, if I avoid GNOME stuff and use MATE applications or such.
[23:31] <murmel> gloin: I use evolution from flatpak and it themes perfectly fine with yaru-dark
[23:31] <gloin> murmel: I prefer a light theme, it looks like the dark theme elements are stuck here
[23:32] <gloin> From curiosity what version of evolution did you get from flatpack?
[23:32] <gloin> I have 3.36.5-0ubuntu1
[23:32] <murmel> 3.44.2
[23:33] <gloin> hmm
[23:33] <murmel> 3.36.5 is 20.04 or?
[23:33] <gloin> yeah
[23:34] <murmel> can't remember if that ever worked, as I also used the flatpak version on 20.04 (I was hunting for a new feature 20.04 didn't have)
[23:35] <jhutchins> murmel: Wait, you're having problems because a flatpack is ignoring system settings?
[23:35] <gloin> no, I'm having a problem because the apt version is
[23:35] <murmel> jhutchins: for me everything works :)
[23:36] <gloin> jhutchins: I've got a light theme selected for gnome, so this should not be happening https://i.imgur.com/xJuR5wI.png
[23:36] <murmel> gloin: which theme is it?
[23:36] <gloin> murmel: honestly it just says "light"
[23:36] <gloin> versus standard or dark
[23:37] <murmel> gloin: did you try to reset your evolution settings (moving the directory)
[23:38] <gloin> murmel: yeah
[23:38] <murmel> also new user?
[23:38] <gloin> Yeah, I went through the dot dirs pretty thoroughly, ended up with a default Gnome desktop as a result
[23:39] <murmel> hm, it feels like almost as if the theme is not installed, which can't be true as we are still talking about yaru
[23:40] <gloin> Yeah, this is a shiny new 20.04 system here
[23:40] <gloin> Why isn't there a user-configurable option in Evolution's settings?
[23:41] <murmel> that was never the case
[23:41] <murmel> even other de don't have that 'feature\
[23:42] <gloin> Most apps have their own light/dark mode toggles.
[23:42] <gloin> At least independent ones
[23:42] <murmel> hm, seems like I live too much in the gnome world then :/
[23:43] <murmel> the only thing I can think of, if you switch back to dark and then light again, so it gets reapplied :/ but other than that
[23:43] <gloin> Unfortunately, tried that without success. Trying the flatpak install now
[23:45] <murmel> gloin: and I will just install an ubuntu 20.04 server + desktop to verify
[23:50] <gloin> brb
[23:54] <Jurilo> Hello. I'm trying to install Ubuntu. I have multiple disks in my computer and installator asks me with 'Windows Boot Manager' - install alongside or erase or something else. I'd like to choose automatic partitioning for my other disk, how can I do this?
[23:54] <goddard> whelp
[23:55] <goddard> i think i figured out why some of the glitchyness happened
[23:55] <goddard> burn my windows extension for some reason caused a lot of problems
[23:55] <goddard> still seems like some things respond strangely though
[23:56] <tomreyn> Jurilo: you can only choose between automated partitoning for all (target disk), or none, i.e. manual partitioning for all.
[23:57] <Jurilo> tomreyn: how can I change target disk?
[23:57] <goddard> also disabled animations
[23:57] <goddard> didn't some one say that jokingly?
[23:57] <Jurilo> tomreyn: after the 'Keyboard layout' step I don't see such possibility
[23:57] <tomreyn> Jurilo: hmm, maybe you can't even choose that during automated partitioning.
[23:58] <Jurilo> Well, that's odd :)
[23:58] <tomreyn> Jurilo: it's been a while that i installe don a desktop with more tha one disk. you can definitely choose with manual partitioning.
[23:58] <tomreyn> Jurilo: which ubuntu version are you about to install there?
[23:59] <Jurilo> well, but you know, I need to think how to partition my disk and I don't want to
[23:59] <murmel> it was also an option on 20.04 to select which disk to choose (automatic partitioning)
[23:59] <Jurilo> tomreyn: 22.04 LTS
[23:59] <murmel> so i assume 22.04 should have that feature
[23:59] <Jurilo> hmm
[23:59] <murmel> i mean it's literally the same installer