[08:41] <Hoxzer> gigaclon: I have to reinstall windows again anyways
[08:41] <joelburton> i already am saving download files, atripathi. it's never downloading it, though--that's the problem.
[08:41] <mawa> two-sheds: hm. doesn't work for me, not at all
[08:41] <joelburton> answer: if synaptic can do this, i'll need more help. i don't see any option in synaptic to get me around the unmet-dependency problem.
[08:41] <damo21> reinstall windows? why not use the extra space for bigger ubuntu home directory :P
[08:42] <damo21> surely a better use of hdd
[08:42] <Answer> joelburton: Can't you just install the package you want with Synaptic?  It automatically gets the dependencies
[08:42] <j5y> nalioth: thats the problem, i dont have internet on my linuxPC, i have to download packages and install manually, and that is what im aksing help for..
[08:42] <joelburton> the dependency on which it relies isn't available in breezy, answer. i know how to fix the skype package, once i get it. it's the getting it i can't figure out.
[08:42] <Hoxzer> damo21: you can play nonthing with linux :((
[08:43] <Answer> joelburton: which came first, the chicken or the egg?
[08:43] <nalioth> j5y: i'm not sure what to tell you
[08:43] <MikeStyle> Hoxzer, not true, use wine or cedega to run windows games
[08:43] <slept> Hoxzer, try kobodeluxe
[08:43] <Hoxzer> MikeStyle: it will surely lower my fps
[08:43] <slept> one of the best games ever
[08:43] <Answer> MikeStyle: Have you tried world of warcraft in cedega or wine?  is it playable
[08:43] <topyli> Hoxzer: nethack and xgalaga work just fine here :)
[08:43] <damo21> Hoxzer: use wine:  i play warcraft 3
[08:43] <j5y> nalioth: okay.. i tried to download package from packages.ubuntu.com, but dunno how to install them
[08:44] <Hoxzer> :D GOD damn lets get back to business
[08:44] <slept> j5y, dpkg -i
[08:44] <Hoxzer> I dunno why curse :(
[08:44] <MikeStyle> hoxzer, when i played it didnt seem to do that for me :) cedega is an awesome program, although you do have to pay for it....
[08:44] <MikeStyle> Answer, i dont play warcraft
[08:44] <MikeStyle> i dont play any games anymore
[08:44] <Hoxzer> :D I dont even feel any anger
[08:44] <Ofe> Hoxzer: Eips kiroilla. Please don't curse.
[08:44] <damo21> Hoxzer: it even emulates nocd cracks!!!
[08:44] <MikeStyle> im all tech
[08:44] <ejpir> anyone know the package in ubuntu 5.10 for microsoft core fonts?
[08:44] <j5y> slept: but the filename isnt .deb, should it be that?
[08:44] <Hoxzer> Ofe: :( emm tied miksi kiroilen  tulee vaan itsestn
[08:44] <topyli> ejpir: msttcorefonts
[08:44] <bipolar> Answer, WoW is a "supported" game on cedega. it *will* work and work well.
[08:45] <deFrysk> ejpir, its in multiverse I believe
[08:45] <slept> j5y, yes it should be , what kin of file is it ?
[08:45] <deFrysk> !info msttcorefonts
[08:45] <ejpir> topyli: that doesn't work anymore
[08:45] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[08:45] <Hoxzer> damo21: :D yeah, yeah I think the windows games will run better in windows than in linux
[08:45] <Answer> bipolar: Is it even a noticeable difference?
[08:45] <slept> j5y, you can find out with : file ....
[08:45] <topyli> ejpir: the package, the fonts, or the repository?
[08:45] <bipolar> Answer, My exp has shown that games run faster in cedega then windows if it's supported.
[08:45] <ejpir> Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package
[08:45] <ReggyLove> good evening
[08:45] <ejpir> I might have the wrong sources?
[08:45] <ghita> can someone tell me how to remove simbolick link from icons in gnome?
[08:46] <bipolar> Answer, I don't have Wow though.
[08:46] <[LethAL] > MikeStyle, no, he's just doing "rm -Rf /" ;)
[08:46] <deFrysk> ejpir, add multiverse to your repo
[08:46] <ejpir> okay, I'll look into that, thank you both
[08:46] <Hoxzer> damo21: have you found a floppy image yet?
[08:46] <damo21> Hoxzer: not entirely true.... its not an emulator
[08:46] <Answer> bipolar: Is cedega easy to setup?
[08:46] <bipolar> Answer, sure. it has it's own installer.
[08:46] <[A] ndy80> I've a strange problem, but I don't know if it's ubuntu related or not. I've 8 new pc with a LCD monitor Neovo F-417 and ATI Radeon 7000. The screen is always flickering expecially when we read/write from harddisk. We changed 2-3 monitor (same model) on the same machine and not all of them have the same flickering intensity. How can I fix this problem? The resolution set by ubuntu is 1280x1024@75, the optimal for that model.
[08:46] <j5y> slept: PGP armored data signed messange file, thats the biggest one, the other is tar.gz and diff.gz
[08:47] <MikeStyle> [LethAL] , i doubt it, he sed if he did anything it would be fdisk and then scramble partitions...but he sed he wouldnt do that so im hoping hes not :) anyway hes been trying to help me for almost an hour now, i think he really does wanna help
[08:47] <[LethAL] > Cool :0
[08:47] <[LethAL] > Watch your dmesg log :P
[08:47] <mohkohn> Can anybody tell me how to patch my kernel with kernel-patch-uml?
[08:47] <slept> Hoxzer, http://gazonk.org/~eloj/articles/emergencybooting.html
[08:47] <deFrysk> [A] ndy80, check the horizontal and vertical freq's
[08:47] <jerryg> is breezy badger pretty stable and driver updated for a beta release at this point ?
[08:47] <Answer> jerryg: relative to what
[08:47] <deFrysk> and make sure they match your monitor-booklet
[08:47] <jerryg> relative to hoary hedgehog
[08:48] <MikeStyle> jerryg, ive heard breezy was one of the best linux systems, even in beta, im sure youll be happy with it
[08:48] <[A] ndy80> deFrysk: how and where? I also set the HorizontalSync and VerticalRefresh in the Monitor section of xorg.conf....
[08:48] <joelburton> atripathi, answer: found a solution. `wajig detail skype` will show me the exact path of the .deb file on skype's server, and once i know the exact path, i can download it using a brwoser.
[08:48] <jerryg> thank you
[08:48] <j5y> slept: the package i want is the kernel source 2.6.10
[08:48] <j5y> the default hoary kernel source
[08:48] <joelburton> atripathi, answer: thanks for your offers of help.
[08:48] <deFrysk> [A] ndy80, if that is correct I do not know
[08:48] <ejpir> that fixed my problem, thanks:)
[08:48] <Answer> joelburton: Do you foresee other people encountering this same problem when they upgrade to breezy, or is it just your special situation?  You should think about making a wiki page
[08:49] <deFrysk> [A] ndy80, you could try to set it to 16 bit instead of 24 bit
[08:49] <[A] ndy80> deFrysk: before I wrote them on that section there was not horizontalsync and verticalrefresh settings.....
[08:49] <[LethAL] > joelburton, You can get wajig to download and install a deb package anyway
[08:49] <ejpir> has anyone tried mounting smb shares in 5.10 yet though?
[08:49] <ejpir> something seems to be wrong with smbfs or mount
[08:49] <atripathi> :)
[08:49] <smi|e> ubotu tell me about tcl
[08:50] <MikeStyle> bipolar, how many packaged is it installing?
[08:50] <MikeStyle> packages*
[08:50] <nalioth> smi|e: use synaptic for tcl
[08:50] <deFrysk> [A] ndy80, run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , use the defaults unless you see incorrect settings, fix them and see if it works better
[08:50] <slept> j5y, apt-cache search kernel source and then just apt-get it
[08:50] <smi|e> nalioth: cant find it there
[08:50] <bipolar> MikeStyle, over 350. it's almost done
[08:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell smi|e about sources
[08:51] <joelburton> [lethal] : wajig won't download something with force
[08:51] <j5y> slept: but i would need internet for that?
[08:51] <[LethAL] > joelburton, force?
[08:51] <MikeStyle> i wish my friend romulo hadnt moved away, he was a linux master :(
[08:51] <slept> j5y, yes , didn't you need internet to download the other things ?
[08:51] <MikeStyle> bipolar, okay
[08:51] <deFrysk> MikeStyle, he was a motu ? ;p
[08:52] <bipolar> MikeStyle, I think I lost my connection.
[08:52] <Ofe> If I have only created one user account on Ubuntu and even that one was created during the installation progress, does that mean that I'm always logged in as admin?
[08:52] <slept> ejpir, samba works fine
[08:52] <joelburton> [lethal]  force is to install it; i wanted to download it even w/unmet deps. couldn't find an option to do that directly with wajig.
[08:52] <[LethAL] > Ofe, no
[08:52] <MikeStyle> deFrysk, im not sure if he was classified or not, i just know he knew EVERYTHING about linuc
[08:52] <Ofe> [LethAL] : phew. thanks.
[08:52] <j5y> slept: yes, but i only have internet on an other windows computer with no apt
[08:52] <[LethAL] > joelburton, oh righ
[08:52] <[LethAL] > t
[08:52] <MikeStyle> bipolar, my connection went out for a few seconds, my ethernet port does that sometimes
[08:52] <ejpir> slept: mount -t smbfs ... etc works for you?
[08:52] <deFrysk> MikeStyle, some geeks do you know
[08:52] <two-sheds> anyone know how to remove the totem plugin from firefox?
[08:52] <[LethAL] > Ofe, that's what sudo is for
[08:53] <bipolar> MikeStyle, ok. I'll have to reconnect
[08:53] <MikeStyle> deFrysk, ever heard of a guy by the alias of Wammy? or Wammy21
[08:53] <joelburton> thanks, al
[08:53] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi alll
[08:53] <deFrysk> MikeStyle, nope sorry
[08:53] <slept> ejpir, yes give me your whole mount command maybe I can figure out an error, and use smbtree to verify you have spelled server and shares right
[08:53] <bipolar> MikeStyle, did you change the root password?
[08:54] <MikeStyle> bipolar yes
[08:54] <bipolar> MikeStyle, I need to login again.
[08:54] <bipolar> MikeStyle, NM.
[08:54] <Aragorn_Guardian> I instaled ubuntu in a new machine....i remember that was a option - server - for a minimum installl of ubuntu?
[08:54] <Nvidiot> Aragorn_Guardian: yup
[08:54] <bipolar> MikeStyle, my other ssh connection came back
[08:54] <damo21> Hoxzer:  http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/clicker/solar_grub_disk.zip?download
[08:54] <deFrysk> Aragorn_Guardian, yes but also no X
[08:55] <MikeStyle> bipolar, alright
[08:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> there is this option? how can i install just the minimum? the less...
[08:55] <zyph> morning
[08:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> deFrysk:  is this...
[08:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[08:55] <bipolar> MikeStyle, I thought it was disconnected, but it just lagged for a few min.
[08:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> deFrysk:  perfect...
[08:55] <MikeStyle> bipolar, yea it does that
[08:55] <baggins> hi. i have an ubuntu machine that isn't working with my dhcp router. all the others in the house are. i've tried switching the cables, but ifup eth0 says, paraphrase, that it's getting no DHCP offers.
[08:55] <MikeStyle> i hated it
[08:55] <zyph> is it just me, or do i have no name?
[08:55] <ejpir> slept: mount -t smbfs -o guest \\<IP_ADDRESS>\data /mnt/flip/
[08:55] <MikeStyle> zyph, i see it
[08:55] <[LethAL] > zyph, just you
[08:55] <mohkohn> ../kernel-patches/all/apply/uml  Does this sound like a sensible start to patching?
[08:55] <Aragorn_Guardian> deFrysk:  how can I choose this...i booted like expert and dont could find...
[08:55] <damo21> Hoxzer u got the link? i found u a disk image
[08:55] <damo21> :D
[08:55] <zyph> baggins, hey routers bite i know all about that
[08:56] <[LethAL] > zyph, it's probably your client... some have that option
[08:56] <yaaar> anybody around here know why my menu.lst file would have changed without my knowledge?
[08:56] <[LethAL] > Aragorn_Guardian, server or server-expert ;)
[08:56] <zyph> baggins, i used static, dhcp didn't like me
[08:56] <slept> ejpir, -o username= and the IP looks strange should be a name , use smbtree to find out
[08:56] <baggins> static doesn't work either
[08:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> hum...damn stupid...hehehehhe
[08:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> is that...
[08:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[08:56] <baggins> i'm not sure why it's doing this... seemingly suddenly
[08:56] <deFrysk> Aragorn_Guardian, all i know it can be done I never did one and thus do not know exept it comes in the packageselection I believe (not sure)
[08:56] <MikeStyle> bipolar, you didnt have to redownload all the packages did you?
[08:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> just expert...not so expert, maybe...hehehehehe
[08:56] <baggins> like if i let it boot up, it has some ipv6 address, which does me no good.
[08:56] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks
[08:56] <zyph> baggins, have you ever gotten it to work before?
[08:56] <baggins> YES
[08:57] <ejpir> slept: has worked like this for years, I usually had to do apt-get install smbfs, but that seems to be already loaded, seeing lsmod
[08:57] <zyph> baggins: i know what you're talking about
[08:57] <baggins> it was working fine
[08:57] <baggins> then one day... poof
[08:57] <[LethAL] > Aragorn_Guardian, although, curse me, I would actually recommend Debian stable for a server
[08:57] <zyph> baggins: wierdness
[08:57] <baggins> yes
[08:57] <baggins> well i'll hang in here for a while and repost later maybe :P
[08:57] <zyph> baggins: did you try using the ifconfig to generate some info?
[08:57] <baggins> yes
[08:57] <slept> ejpir, what error do you get ?
[08:57] <baggins> i'm familiar with all that stuff
[08:57] <X3ndou> Heya guys
[08:57] <baggins> but i've never seen it do this
[08:57] <X3ndou> I need libxM.so.3
[08:57] <X3ndou> where can I get it
[08:57] <zyph> baggins: are you the sysadmin?
[08:57] <baggins> effectively
[08:58] <baggins> this is my home network
[08:58] <ejpir> slept: ount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on \<IP_ADDRESS>data,
[08:58] <zyph> baggins: ah that puts you one step ahead of myself
[08:58] <baggins> i have a gentoo machine, an ubuntu and a windows xp
[08:58] <bipolar> MikeStyle, 10 more packages
[08:58] <ejpir> slept: almost looks like it's not using smbfs at all
[08:58] <ReleaseX> is the kernel in breezy going to support orinoco scanning?
[08:58] <MikeStyle|in> bipolar ok
[08:58] <baggins> other two are working fine
[08:58] <zyph> baggins: my challenge was dealing with a stepdad who thought everything opensource is a virus
[08:58] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  i was asking here for that...ubuntu server is like debian, or not? debian will be better?
[08:59] <zyph> baggins: and his answer to my linux woes (of his creation) was to switch to windows
[08:59] <MikeStyle|shower> bipolar, i have to hop in the shower real quick, when i come back can you tell me if its done?
[08:59] <[LethAL] > Aragorn_Guardian, debian stable is outdated because it has so much testing
[08:59] <slept> ejpir, install smbclient
[08:59] <zyph> baggins: of course turns out it was his settings that were preventing me from accessing the network
[08:59] <[LethAL] > Aragorn_Guardian, Well over six months of it
[08:59] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  sure...
[08:59] <zyph> baggins: and again if all else fails *power_cycle*
[09:00] <[LethAL] > Aragorn_Guardian, so it's rock solid
[09:00] <zyph> baggins: but i'm no expert
[09:00] <ejpir> slept: is done per default, I was able to get on it via smbclient though:)
[09:00] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  i like possibility of have the same system in my desktop, for test the packages, and after install them safelly in server, with ubuntu
[09:00] <Nvidiot> I yet have to see a stripped linux install being unstable
[09:00] <bipolar> MikeStyle|shower, sure
[09:00] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  in debian i depend only from apt-get
[09:00] <zyph> baggins: cat ifconfig to a text file
[09:00] <[LethAL] > heh
[09:00] <[LethAL] > Fair dos
[09:01] <zyph> baggins: try posting it in the forum or something
[09:01] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  debian is solid, i know, but, ubuntu is not so solid as?
[09:01] <two-sheds> baggins sounds like the nic isn't working right.. maybe the kernel or modules changed?
[09:01] <JustSomeone> How do you link output to a text file? Do you use the > things?
[09:01] <zyph> baggins: i'm sure some guru will psychically know
[09:01] <GDorn> yep.  or >> to append
[09:01] <Nvidiot> JustSomeone: command > output
[09:01] <zyph> yeah
[09:01] <JustSomeone> ok thanks
[09:01] <[LethAL] > Aragorn_Guardian, Well... usually, but if you're ok with that, go ahead
[09:01] <zyph> that's what i meant
[09:01] <ejpir> slept: did you manually install smbfs though?
[09:01] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  i said...is not debian at all?
[09:02] <zyph> so like cat file > textfile
[09:02] <Nvidiot> yup
[09:02] <[LethAL] > Aragorn_Guardian, Well... ubuntu isn't like other debianbased distros
[09:02] <slept> ejpir, can't remember use dpkg --get-selections |grep smb to find out
[09:02] <JustSomeone> Yeah ^^
[09:02] <zyph> i like doing cat ls > dircontents
[09:02] <seife> Hi
[09:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  no...i was just asking...i know about thousands of debian developers, that are really good...
[09:02] <bipolar> MikeStyle|shower, are you still there?
[09:02] <Concord_Dawn> can someone help me with getting Apache2 to support JSP?
[09:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  whats the difference, so? kernel?
[09:02] <seife> Is there any good program for downloading stuff in linux? like music, videos, etc..
[09:03] <JustSomeone> how do you cat an ls?
[09:03] <ejpir> libsmbclient                                    install
[09:03] <ejpir> smbclient                                       ins
[09:03] <ejpir> both there:x
[09:03] <j5y> how do i install the file after download (look at bottom) http://packages.ubuntu.com/hoary/devel/linux-source-2.6.10
[09:03] <JustSomeone> it would have to be a file wouldnt it?
[09:03] <ejpir> I'll see if I can fix it some how
[09:03] <zyph> easy
[09:03] <Concord_Dawn> !apache
[09:03] <ubotu> apache is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[09:03] <zyph> cat ls > textfile
[09:03] <seife> Is there any good program for downloading stuff in linux? like music, videos, etc..
[09:03] <zyph> try it
[09:03] <JustSomeone> I dont have a shell in front of me :/
[09:03] <zyph> lol you mean illegal stuf seife?
[09:03] <slept> ejpir, smbfs ?
[09:03] <seife> yes
[09:03] <zyph> well there's your problem
[09:03] <two-sheds> heh
[09:04] <zyph> open one
[09:04] <Concord_Dawn> can someone help me with getting Apache2 to support JSP?
[09:04] <Concord_Dawn> please?
[09:04] <seife> i mean like limewire, kazaa, etc..
[09:04] <JustSomeone> lol
[09:04] <zyph> Vegar was here?
[09:04] <zyph> he's in my lnx guild...
[09:04] <Concord_Dawn> !apache2java
[09:04] <ubotu> Concord_Dawn: I give up, what is it?
[09:04] <EasterSunshine> limewire is available in linux
[09:04] <Concord_Dawn> limewire is a computer killer.
[09:04] <zyph> limewire is corrupt now though
[09:04] <zyph> use bittorrent
[09:04] <ejpir> slept: smbfs is not listed at all
[09:04] <zyph> ktorrent
[09:04] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  I installed debian here too, was beatiful. my machine never has so much free ram as with debian...very nice
[09:04] <zyph> or gtk-gnutella
[09:04] <slept> ejpir, install it
[09:04] <seife> computer killer? why?
[09:05] <dikrib> Hey, anyone interested in helping a person comletely new to linux with installing ubuntu?
[09:05] <ejpir> slept: Package smbfs is not available, but is referred to by another package. -- although I added multiverse
[09:05] <zyph> dikrib, if you are female and offering your body sure!
[09:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> [LethAL] :  but you think ubuntu i] like server, was tested enough, for be useful? have some info about that?
[09:05] <zyph> j/k
[09:05] <dikrib> :(
[09:05] <zyph> lol sorry
[09:05] <seife> where can i get Bittorrent, i think ubuntu comes with GnomeBittorrent, something like that but it needs the location for bittorrent meta files, wth.
[09:06] <zyph> google bittorrent to get some fun links
[09:06] <EasterSunshine> hey, can someone help, i just installed ubuntu and my optical usb mouse is not working; it is plugged into ps/2 via converter
[09:06] <nalioth> seife: in your home dir
[09:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> j5y:  dpkg -i PACKAGE
[09:06] <zyph> w00t, kynaptic is done
[09:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> anyone is using ubuntu in a server? any info?
[09:06] <Nvidiot> seife: I like Azureus, needs java though
[09:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> 8)
[09:06] <zyph> allright i'm out, take care noobles
[09:07] <zyph> *peace out*
[09:07] <skyblownet> finaly
[09:07] <baggins> wow
[09:08] <baggins> lots of spam now i'm in here
[09:08] <skyblownet> damo21 sbn here, got in irc now :d
[09:08] <slept> ejpir, you got main restricted universe and multiverse ?
[09:08] <skyblownet> irc = ubuntu
[09:08] <z4ck> hi!
[09:09] <StylusEater_Work> anyone get a netgear WG111 working under ubuntu yet?
[09:09] <z4ck> anyone else have problems install blackhawk java
[09:09] <fredforfaen> whats netgear?
[09:09] <ejpir> slept: as far as I know, just uncommented all in sources.list and added multiverse
[09:09] <queuetue> Hi, all.  How do  I restart the video card setup?  (My card died and X will not start with the new one.)
[09:09] <Nvidiot> z4ck: I used the 1.5.0 update 5 from sun, works great
[09:09] <nalioth> fredforfaen: a brand name
[09:09] <z4ck> i have tried that
[09:09] <z4ck> but it doesnt seem to work
[09:09] <readtard> Hey! - anyone know of very simple wiki for php & mysql i have no shell access on a server...?
[09:10] <z4ck> i did sh install
[09:10] <TiMiDo> hey does ubuntu reconized Dvd players automatic or i have to do something ?
[09:10] <TiMiDo> !dvd
[09:10] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[09:10] <slept> ejpir, I dont no what repo it is, add those I wrote than you should be able to install it
[09:10] <Nvidiot> z4ck: the sun java has to be turned into a package, then installed
[09:10] <skyblownet> root password of ubuntu?
[09:10] <Nvidiot> z4ck: it's on the wiki somewhere
[09:11] <TiMiDo> !hoary-extras
[09:11] <ubotu> somebody said hoary-extras was see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[09:11] <Nvidiot> skyblownet: ubuntu doesn't have a root password. You use sudo command
[09:11] <deFrysk> !javadeb
[09:11] <ubotu> javadeb is, like, for sun java debs packaged for ubuntu, Install from http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy) 64-bit? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[09:11] <slept> !root
[09:11] <ubotu> somebody said root was disabled in Ubuntu, you can read all about it on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[09:11] <queuetue> How do  I restart the video card setup?  (My card died and X will not start with the new one.)
[09:11] <Dolm|SMC|Work> !meaning_of_life
[09:11] <ubotu> Dolm|SMC|Work: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:11] <ProN00b> sudo is teh shit logic
[09:11] <z4ck> i have breezy badger
[09:11] <ejpir> slept: didn't get the msg, I'm not sure if I can get private msges as unregistered user?
[09:12] <z4ck> breezy K7
[09:12] <[LethAL] > ejpir, NO, you can't
[09:12] <slept> ejpir, I do/did not pm , universe multiverse restricted and main should be all you need
[09:12] <Aragorn_Guardian> thanks by the help...
[09:12] <ejpir> slept: allright, will give it a try, thanks for the help so far;)
[09:13] <MikeStyle> omg bipolar i love you
[09:13] <EasterSunshine> !usbmouse
[09:13] <ubotu> EasterSunshine: Are you on ritalin?
[09:13] <Nvidiot> z4ck: get the jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin, then: sudo apt-get install java-package java-common && chmod +x jre-1_5... && fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5.... && sudo dpkg -i sun-j2re....deb
[09:13] <MikeStyle> thank you so much bipolar
[09:14] <obiyoda> Is there an easier way to get the xserver back up and running besides using the xorgconfig? I killed my xserver somehow and nothing is working
[09:14] <robbkidd> Anyone here using Evolution+Exchange? And figured out a workaround for the problem adding an unnecessary semi-colon to folder paths?
[09:14] <slept> EasterSunshine, unless you don't want to tell someone else use /msg ubotu usbmouse or whatever you want to know
[09:14] <z4ck> Nvidiot,  if i just download a .deb package will it work
[09:14] <z4ck> from here
[09:14] <ejpir> slept: worked, merci
[09:14] <z4ck> http://giannaros.org/public/hoarydebs/
[09:14] <Nvidiot> z4ck: should work yup :)
[09:14] <z4ck> k
[09:15] <slept> ejpir, :)
[09:15] <z4ck> ill try this
[09:15] <Nvidiot> z4ck: then you just need the sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[09:15] <z4ck> thank you
[09:16] <z4ck> im going to download the package
[09:16] <queuetue> How would I redetect for a new video card?
[09:17] <slept> queuetue, what kind of card ?
[09:17] <Rocky|away> hm, a few days ago i did an apt-get upgrade in breezy and my wireless (ndiswrapper-based broadcom in my dell latitude d800) device stopped working ... anyone know what the problem might be?
[09:17] <Antiliis> hi! what is the tool to configure grub partitions in gnome in breezy?
[09:17] <x_o1> Anyone using nxclient?  I just need to know how to run the application?  "nxclient host application"?
[09:17] <queuetue> slept: An s3 prosavage 8.
[09:18] <Waerner> Please, is someone familiar with fluxbox? I installed it via apt-get but I'm unable to start it...
[09:18] <slept> queuetue, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then sellect your card
[09:19] <slept> Waerner, you can select it at your gdm/kdm loginscreen
[09:19] <Waerner> hmm
[09:19] <Waerner> *checking*
[09:20] <TiMiDo> !marillat
[09:20] <ubotu> Not a clue, TiMiDo
[09:20] <z4ck> Waerner,  is fluxbox a Desktop enviorment?
[09:20] <Waerner> z4ck, yes
[09:20] <Waerner> I've just read the docs 'bout it, but the files .xsession and .xinitrc...
[09:20] <Waerner> doesn't exists*
[09:21] <z4ck> its should work.. Logout > then at the login screen select session > fluxbox
[09:21] <Waerner> But hey, I saw it now, under "Session Type" Thanks alot slept!
[09:21] <Waerner> Someone told me it's much faster than KDE
[09:21] <damo21> also xfce :D
[09:21] <TiMiDo> where can i get libdvdcss2
[09:21] <TiMiDo> ?
[09:21] <z4ck> probley is
[09:22] <Venson> Waerner: you are misinformed
[09:22] <TiMiDo> where can i get libdvdcss2
[09:22] <Venson> Waerner: KDE is a desktop. Fluxbox is a Window Manager. WM is just part of a desktop.....and doesn't have as many features
[09:22] <damo21> i know where to get libdvdcss
[09:22] <TiMiDo> !dvd
[09:22] <ubotu> DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some dvd's require libdvdcss2, which can be found in !hoary-extras
[09:22] <TiMiDo> !info libdvdcss2
[09:22] <TiMiDo> !hoary-extras
[09:22] <ubotu> from memory, hoary-extras is see  http://backports.ubuntuforums.org ; example hoary repo: deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[09:23] <Waerner> Omg, I guess I have a few hours spending with configuration :) thank you guys
[09:23] <Mustard5> yay..I'm in
[09:23] <damo21> from memory? rofl
[09:23] <Antiliis> hi! what is the tool to configure grub partitions in gnome in breezy?
[09:23] <bipolar> I guess it worked
[09:24] <damo21> Antilliis: configure grub partitions? what about nano /boot/grub/grub.conf
[09:24] <Antiliis> damo21: yes, this is ok, but there's a graphical config tool to do this
[09:24] <damo21> oh?
[09:25] <Antiliis> damo21: but I don't know what's its name
[09:25] <damo21> hmm
[09:25] <mohkohn> ../kernel-patches/all/apply/uml No "User-mode Linux" patch found for kernel version 2.6.12
[09:25] <damo21> use bash completion to guess :D
[09:25] <Nvidiot> staying with the whole k{tool_name} or g{tool_name} I'd guess: ggrub(-configure) or kgrub(-configure) ;)
[09:25] <mohkohn> Do I need to rename my uml file somehow?
[09:25] <Rounin> Hi! I was wondering, are there any input methods (SCIM, UIM, IIMF etc.) that are supported in Ubuntu? I tried installing SCIM in Breezy, but it seems to be segfaulting
[09:25] <Antiliis> mmmmm I tried apt-cache search grub, without success
[09:26] <damo21> Antiliis:  open terminal, use bash completion to find the name
[09:27] <Antiliis> damo21: I tried grub<tab>, but none of the results makes me happy
[09:27] <skyblownet> how can i mount my windows hd?
[09:27] <Mustard5> what file format is it?
[09:27] <skyblownet> well
[09:27] <skyblownet> the L:\ drive is FAT32
[09:28] <damo21> mount -t vfat /dev/....
[09:28] <Mustard5> I assume its called hda1 in linux?
[09:28] <Nvidiot> so much for firefox... it *STILL* has that bug where if you select some text and randomly try to drag it, it'll crash
[09:28] <seife> how do i install my radeon7500 drivers on linux?
[09:28] <skyblownet> probaly
[09:28] <Nvidiot> hda1 would be first harddisk, first partition
[09:28] <damo21> mount -t vfat /dev/{h,s}dx
[09:28] <Blissex> seife: which drivers? As a rule there are some that are already included.
[09:29] <damo21> where h is for ide , s for scsi... x is # of partition
[09:29] <Blissex> seife: if you don't care about 3D acceleration, use the 'radeon' drivers just like that. If you case, consider the proprietary 'fglrx' drivers or the 'radeon' driver plus DRI.
[09:29] <skyblownet> damo21 it gives me a error if i do
[09:29] <slept> seife, install restricted modules and firegl xorg driver , change your xorg config to firegl via dpkg-reconfigure
[09:30] <lsuactiafner> what sound manager/deamon does ubuntu use by default?
[09:30] <slept> esd
[09:30] <damo21> skyblownet which partition is it... and is it scsi or ide hdd?
[09:30] <Blissex> seife: the 'radeon' driver is included with X; the 'fglrx' driver is in a special repository, and there is an HOWTO in the Ubuntu Wiki about binary only drivers
[09:30] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[09:30] <skyblownet> dunno whats diffrence?
[09:30] <Blissex> lsuactiafner: depends on what you install.
[09:30] <tristanmike> skyblownet, you can use this script to auto mount your partitions http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[09:30] <mortal_> hey all, I'm trying to get sound working in ubuntu

[09:30] <z4ck> ATI
[09:30] <z4ck> drivers
[09:31] <seife> Blissex,  can i download that fglrx with synaptic?
[09:31] <z4ck> fucking suck go buy a nvidia card
[09:31] <skyblownet> damo21: i just started with linux
[09:31] <damo21> :)
[09:31] <z4ck> sorry for the language .. but its a big mess
[09:31] <Mustard5> heh
[09:31] <slept> z4ck, ????
[09:31] <tristanmike> damo21, sorry to jump in on you there
[09:31] <Blissex> seife: yes, as described in the Binary Driver pages in the Ubuntu Wiki, which is easy to find.
[09:31] <slept> z4ck, whats your problem with ati ?
[09:31] <damo21> cool thats even easirt
[09:31] <damo21> easier
[09:31] <mortal_> I need some help with sound in ubuntu
[09:32] <Blissex> seife: but note that the 7500 is well supported by 'radeon' and 'dri', which are more reliable than 'fglrx' even if a bit slower.
[09:32] <z4ck> because their failer to make a decent driver for linux
[09:32] <skyblownet> but i should learn what the diffrence is and so one
[09:32] <damo21> i agree z4ck i am waiting with my radeon 9800pro its useless
[09:32] <damo21> :(
[09:32] <seife> well should i download fglrx
[09:32] <ProN00b> i got a lil problem there, my mp3 player (usb storage device - needs FAT (normal FAT, not FAT32) ) gets automounted by linux and i can read the files from it that i have written to it from windows, i can also write and read to it like to a normal drive, but everything that i seem to touch with ubuntu on there seems to be not playable anymore on the player, but it doesn't disappear, and mounting the stick in windows again i can access the files
[09:32] <ProN00b> i wrote to it from ubuntu, does anyone know how to "make it work" ?
[09:32] <z4ck> same here
[09:33] <z4ck> i got a 9700 pro
[09:33] <z4ck> spent probley 10 hours attempting to get opengl drivers to work
[09:33] <Mustard5> to mount my vfat drive I create a new dir in the /mnt directory called /hda1, then I type moutn -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[09:33] <z4ck> my friend said just down grade to hoary and u can get it to work
[09:33] <Mustard5> to mount my vfat drive I create a new dir in the /mnt directory called /hda1, then I type mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[09:33] <damo21> z4ck: all these super advanced games and i cant even use translucency
[09:33] <mortal_> I'm trying to get sound working in ubuntu, I've checked the mixer, my card is properly detected, and the volume is up
[09:33] <Belutz> ProN00b, format the usb using FAT32
[09:33] <skyblownet> Mustard5: did that work?
[09:33] <nalioth> Mustard5: /msg ubotu windowsdrives
[09:33] <Mustard5> yeah
[09:33] <z4ck> i cant even use hardware GL
[09:34] <damo21> lol
[09:34] <kbrooks> mouse is buggy...
[09:34] <z4ck> im switching to nvidia im sick of ati
[09:34] <ProN00b> Belutz, the player needs FAT, it doesn't accept FAT32
[09:34] <kbrooks> whats ati
[09:34] <damo21> z4ck u can get cheapo nvidia card
[09:34] <tristanmike> skyblownet, all of that comes with time, shouldn't the goal be automatically having this done?
[09:35] <z4ck> i play wolfenstein et
[09:35] <Venson> Mustard5: is that a flash drive?
[09:35] <damo21> as long as its directx9 u will get decent use
[09:35] <damo21> on linux
[09:35] <Belutz> ProN00b, i don't think it can write to FAT, maybe the others have solution, or google it
[09:35] <z4ck> Im so sick of windows its not even funny
[09:35] <pir> helo, Any one have kismet working with orinoco driver? I just did all the tasks in the "howto Orinoco + Monitor + kismet_2005 +hoary" and it still doesn't work...
[09:35] <seife> Why i cant play .mp3 music file?
[09:35] <seife> Why i cant play .mp3 music file?
[09:35] <Mustard5> no..its my hard drive
[09:35] <Blissex> one can write to FAT partitions...
[09:35] <z4ck> i switch to windows to play wolf thats it
[09:35] <damo21> yep
[09:35] <tristanmike> !tell seife about mp3
[09:35] <z4ck> seife, download xmms
[09:35] <Blissex> z4ck: I think Wolfenstein is available for GNU/Linux
[09:36] <damo21> z4ck u can get ET for linux
[09:36] <z4ck> Blissex,  IT IS
[09:36] <z4ck> if u have drivers
[09:36] <z4ck> if u have opengl drivers!
[09:36] <damo21> but u need to buy cheapo nvidia card
[09:36] <Blissex> seife: almost surely because you dont have the MP3 decoders which are semi proprietary.
[09:36] <damo21> :D
[09:36] <z4ck> yea i can play it in software gl
[09:36] <z4ck> lmao........
[09:36] <damo21> hehe
[09:36] <z4ck> 1 fps
[09:36] <kbrooks> Blissex: he's saying that w/o the drivers its slow
[09:36] <seife> Blissex, where can i get that mp3 decoders?
[09:36] <Blissex> seife: however, some sordid characters have made available packags with the right decoders. It is in the Ubuntu Wiki where
[09:36] <tristanmike> seife, look at what ubotu messaged you
[09:37] <damo21> seife: enable the universe repositories
[09:37] <Blissex> !mp3
[09:37] <ubotu> somebody said mp3 was read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[09:37] <z4ck> its a joke... screw ati lazy shits
[09:37] <damo21> hehe
[09:37] <kbrooks> z4ck: what is a joke
[09:37] <seife> ok thanks
[09:37] <seife> hehe
[09:37] <Blissex> z4ck: for older ATI cards (9600 and earlier) the DRI open source drivers are pretty good.
[09:37] <z4ck> ATI drivers
[09:37] <seife> where do i enable those universe reporitories?
[09:37] <Blissex> seife: it is in the Ubuntu Wiki... :-)
[09:37] <Blissex> !repos
[09:37] <kbrooks> Blissex: ati drivers. hardware.
[09:37] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[09:38] <kbrooks> not those open source drivers (software)
[09:38] <mortal_> can anyone help me with my sound problems?
[09:38] <z4ck> i need hardware Gl
[09:38] <slept> z4ck, doesnt xorg-driver-fglrx work ?
[09:38] <Blissex> kbrooks: but the open source 'radeon' drivers are 3D accelerated, up to the 9200 by default, and with an update up to the 9600.
[09:38] <z4ck> lmao
[09:38] <mortal_> I have a sb audigy 1, which is detected by alsa, the mixer is up, but I still get no sound
[09:38] <z4ck> ghaha.. i spent hours with taht one
[09:38] <Blissex> mortal_: consider reading http://tinyurl.com/bz8v4 on how to ask questions
[09:38] <__boomer> hi
[09:38] <grayman> ah
[09:39] <grayman> its easy
[09:39] <grayman> z4ck, i just fixed that myself
[09:39] <grayman> !ati
[09:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI, or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10&highlight=fglrx
[09:39] <__boomer> what do i have to change to follow text links by clicking the middle mouse button?
[09:39] <skyblownet> isn't quake 3 arena for linux out too?
[09:39] <grayman> that last url is good
[09:39] <Blissex> mortal_: also consider reading the troubleshooting section of http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 it works most of the time.
[09:39] <grayman> plus use kernel for 386
[09:39] <[NeiL] > can anybody help me with cedega?
[09:39] <baggins> maybe
[09:39] <Blissex> skyblownet: yes, and several pretty good other 3D games, some of them open source.
[09:39] <z4ck> thers alot of games out for linux
[09:39] <kbrooks> [NeiL] : ask, but its nonfree
[09:40] <Blissex> [NeiL] : try #WINE or TransGaming support...
[09:40] <baggins> [NeiL] : maybe if you tell us the problem
[09:40] <damo21> grayman: so u have 9800pro card and hardware accell on breezy?
[09:40] <[NeiL] > i want to run CS in a window, non full screen mode
[09:40] <kbrooks> Blissex: cedega != wine
[09:40] <ProN00b> what open source app is closest to cedega ?
[09:40] <luite> I have to buy a new video card (because of an upgrade to a pci-e motherboard), which brand whould you recommend, ati or nvidia? I always thought that nvidia had better drivers, but I've seen that ati has a new nice packaging tool, and has possibly (?) made some other improvements to the drivers?
[09:40] <Blissex> kbrooks: yes, but most Cedega problems are very similar to WINE
[09:40] <damo21> ProNooB : wine
[09:40] <kbrooks> ProN00b: closest -- none
[09:40] <ProN00b> and why isn't cedega free if it uses wine code ?
[09:40] <baggins> [NeiL] : have a look in ~/.transgaming/config ... there should be lines like ;"Desktop" = "800x600"
[09:40] <Nvidiot> luite: nvidia, the ati drivers are still frustrating
[09:41] <kbrooks> ProN00b: wine is licensed under the lgpl
[09:41] <Blissex> ProN00b: it is opne source -- the sources
[09:41] <z4ck> luite,  agp NVIDIA VIDEO CARD
[09:41] <[NeiL] > baggins: thx i will try it :)
[09:41] <Blissex> luite: depends what you want to do with it.
[09:41] <baggins> [NeiL] : remove the ; and set the size of your desktop in a window to use that.
[09:41] <[LethAL] > ProN00b, the CVS version is, it misses copy protection or something
[09:41] <kbrooks> Blissex: cvs sources
[09:41] <Blissex> ProN00b: it is opne source -- the sources are free. You have to pay for the binaries.
[09:41] <damo21> lol
[09:41] <z4ck> ATI package is a bunch of crap go with nvidia
[09:41] <ProN00b> Blissex, so where is the cedega source, and what keeps me from using it ?
[09:42] <Blissex> ProN00b: not much -- the lack of copy protection perhaps.
[09:42] <damo21> So where can i dl cedega open source?
[09:42] <ProN00b> lack of ?
[09:42] <ProN00b> what you mean ?
[09:42] <luite> Blissex: uhm, I run breezy, and want to do some gaming, have the latest window effects eye candy thingies etc ;) and some maya
[09:42] <slept> luite, matrox , you'll get open drivers :)
[09:42] <Blissex> ProN00b: there are quite a few Cedega-from-CVS building HOWTOs/tutorials around.
[09:43] <luite> slept: and stone age performance.. :(
[09:43] <Blissex> ProN00b: note that it is not easy to build Cedega-from-CVS, and the price is very low.
[09:43] <Blissex> luite: Cedega and even some recent version of WINE are rumoured to run Doom3 pretty fast.
[09:43] <tristanmike> Blissex, why run Doom3 under wine when it has a linux client?
[09:43] <ProN00b> Blissex, you bet the suckers make it hard to get from cvs to get your money
[09:43] <luite> z4ck: is agp support better than pci-e support? I wanted to buy a pci-e mobo with nforce4
[09:44] <[NeiL] > baggins: thx, it works perfectly but mouse is "trapped" and cannot go outside of the window
[09:44] <Blissex> luite: however quite a few games are natively available for GNU/Linux and with the right driver they have all the modern effects too.
[09:44] <z4ck> well
[09:44] <z4ck> newer video cards even with windows are always less supported
[09:44] <baggins> [NeiL] : i think something like Ctrl-g will grab/release it
[09:44] <Blissex> ProN00b: no, it is just quite hard. Building Cedega-from-CVS is not significantly harder than building WINE-from-CVS.
[09:44] <z4ck> pci-e.. id go with a 6600 GT
[09:45] <damo21> tristanmike:  Dont think of wine and cedega as "emulators" they dont emulate anything, they just filter and let linux kernel run the win32 binaries
[09:45] <bloodnik> Apt-get is giving me errors about dependencies whereby the ubuntu version of a package is going to be installed and that's not good enough
[09:45] <baggins> [NeiL] : or it might be f12 and g ... i think one is UAE and one is wine, i forget which
[09:45] <bloodnik> eg libavcodeccvs: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[09:45] <nalioth> bloodnik: are you using backports
[09:45] <ProN00b> Blissex, the last time i got something from cvs and built it it was 4 commands (not including the apt-getting dependencys)
[09:45] <bloodnik> I'll check
[09:45] <[NeiL] > baggins: negative :(
[09:45] <skyblownet> damo21:  so that would mean that i can run explorer.exe in linux?
[09:45] <luite> Blissex: ah, sounds good.. unfortunately I don't like doom3 that much... I still have dualboot for games, but I'd like to play ut2004 without having to reboot to windows :)
[09:45] <yaaar> anybody round here use bacula? i finally got it all configured and when i try to start it i get:
[09:45] <yaaar> Fatal error: Version error for database "bacula". Wanted 8, got 7
[09:46] <tristanmike> damo21, I never suggested that I thought that, why did you? I merely asked why run it under Wine and not naitive?
[09:46] <yaaar> it's exactly like this guy's post to the debian lists: http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2005/01/msg00087.html
[09:46] <bloodnik> nalioth, no backports in my sources.list
[09:46] <damo21> tristanmike: because it might run faster in wine
[09:46] <damo21> :D
[09:46] <tristanmike> damo21, :) Ok, thanx
[09:46] <Blissex> luite: Well, you are _awesomely_ lucky as while Doom3 for Linux costs extra, the Linux port of UT2004 is included on the CD/DVD.
[09:47] <tristanmike> damo21, I actually read a review that suggested it might, but I was just curious why not support the naitivity :)
[09:47] <Blissex> tristanmike: some people run the MS Windows version of Doom3 on GNU/Linux because they already paid for it, and the Linux port costs extra.
[09:47] <bluefoxicy> ATI RAge 128, any good?
[09:47] <skyblownet> !tell sbn about mp3
[09:47] <damo21> i cant test it yet, i dont have ati drivers working
[09:47] <Nvidiot> bluefoxicy: for 2d yes. For 3d, no
[09:47] <Blissex> bluefoxicy: by today's standards it is awesomely slow in 3D, but pretty good still in 2D
[09:48] <luite> Blissex / z4ck / Nvidi:  tnx for the suggestionson I'll go voor nvidia... now I only have to determine  the best card in my budget :)
[09:48] <bloodnik> tell a lie, backports were there
[09:48] <Blissex> luite: whats your budget and country?
[09:48] <baggins> [NeiL] : hrm.... i can't remember... someone told me once... i never found the docs... ask in #cedega
[09:48] <mortal_> ok folks, where do i get make gcc and such?
[09:48] <Nvidiot> luite: tomshardware has vga charts, comparing cards :) Nice to help pick a card
[09:48] <luite> Blissex: I think about 150 euros, netherlands
[09:48] <damo21> luite: if u are buying video card... go Nvidia!!! Ati linux support SUX
[09:48] <Answer> luite:  www.mwave.com  www.insight.com  www.newegg.com
[09:48] <[NeiL] > baggins: thx for your help :)
[09:48] <Blissex> luite: uhmmmm, I just bought an NVIDIA in that price range.
[09:49] <Nvidiot> mortal_: it's in one package... basic-compilers or something like that
[09:49] <Belutz> mortal_, install build-essential
[09:49] <Blissex> luite: as in today!
[09:49] <mortal_> rgr
[09:49] <luite> Blissex: ah which one?
[09:49] <bluefoxicy> Blissex, Nvidiot:  Found it in a dell I just was given
[09:49] <Blissex> luite: it is an NVIDIA 6800LE
[09:49] <Nvidiot> bulid-essential, that's it
[09:49] <ProN00b> Blissex, can't someone else redistribute its binaries legally ?
[09:49] <luite> Blissex: agp or pci express?
[09:49] <bluefoxicy> Blissex, Nvidiot:  Looks like the damn thing is pentium 4 PC133 based, I don't have PC133 ram.
[09:49] <Nvidiot> bluefoxicy: ick, P4 with sdram, slooow
[09:50] <Ti_Uhl> hello
[09:50] <skyblownet> !tell skyblownet about mp3
[09:50] <Blissex> luite: I got the 6800LE AGP, which has a big advantage over the PCI-E version.
[09:50] <bluefoxicy> Nvidiot:  i'm an athlon 64 guy.
[09:50] <damo21> my question:  will 9800pro have composite, 100% hardware accellerated opengl support in breezy?
[09:50] <mortal_> Belutz, ruhroe, synaptic came up empty
[09:50] <Belutz> mortal_, it can't be
[09:50] <Blissex> bluefoxicy: contrarily to rumours, PC133 SDRAM is about as fast as PC2100 DDR, which is to say not too bad.
[09:50] <Belutz> mortal_, check your sources.list
[09:50] <Ti_Uhl> does it hurt to upgrade my hoary to breezer ? or should i wait untill the official release ?
[09:50] <luite> Blissex: advantage? I always thought that the 6x00 series were native pci-e, ant that the agp version was slower
[09:51] <kbrooks> Ti_Uhl: it is rc quality
[09:51] <Blissex> bluefoxicy: also, PC133 SDRAM is easy to find used and cheap, for obvious reasons.
[09:51] <dazzed> i need MUCH help
[09:51] <Blissex> Ti_Uhl: just wait a bit.
[09:51] <kbrooks> dazzed: ASK
[09:51] <damo21> Ti_Uhl.... dont bother because u will upgrade again?
[09:51] <Belutz> Ti_Uhl, if you use computer for production, i suggest you wait
[09:51] <z4ck> im thinkng about just download kubuntu horay becausee ATI do work on it
[09:51] <damo21> z4ck... wait till breezy release :D
[09:51] <Ti_Uhl> kbrooks : and if i would do the upgrade, would updating my apt sources be sufficient ?
[09:51] <bluefoxicy> Blissex:  best buy charges $120 for 256M PC133 and $50 for 256M DDR333
[09:51] <Blissex> luite: the story is this: the 6[26] 00 is native PCI-E and needs a bridge for AGP, not that changes anything.
[09:51] <dazzed> well i upgraded to breezy but when unpacking packages and setting up my computer shut off so i did the rest in terminal ... now i am stuck without x cuz some packages are being held back
[09:52] <z4ck>  im on breezy right now
[09:52] <Blissex> bluefoxicy: buy it used.
[09:52] <kbrooks> Ti_Uhl: No. apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:52] <Belutz> z4ck, if you have fast internet connections, go ahead :)
[09:52] <Nvidiot> Ti_Uhl: there is a wiki on how to update
[09:52] <damo21> no, z4ck u have preview breezy
[09:52] <Blissex> bluefoxicy: the new is expensive because it is from old stock and is a rarity.
[09:52] <damo21> :D
[09:52] <z4ck> im on dialup lol
[09:52] <mortal_> Belutz, ok i'm in my sources.list, what am i looking for?
[09:52] <kbrooks> damo21: um
[09:52] <z4ck> im not on kubuntu
[09:52] <z4ck> im on ubuntu
[09:52] <dazzed> anyone?
[09:52] <Belutz> mortal_, please paste it in the pastebin
[09:52] <z4ck> with kde
[09:52] <luite> Blissex: ah
[09:52] <Ti_Uhl> damo21 : so i'd be better off waiting untill next week
[09:53] <dazzed> i do install packages that are being held back?
[09:53] <Blissex> bluefoxicy: however here in the UK I can get 512MB of SDRAM 133 for around $60
[09:53] <kbrooks> Ti_Uhl: it works for me
[09:53] <dazzed> i have 111 to be upgraded and they are being held back?
[09:53] <mortal_> k
[09:53] <damo21> kbrooks?  official breezy release not til 13th october right?
[09:53] <Blissex> bluefoxicy: because there is one retailed that still sells it currently
[09:53] <kbrooks> upgraded,  no problem so far
[09:53] <Ti_Uhl> kbrooks : yeah but i can't afford the risk off screwing up my laptop
[09:53] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[09:53] <dazzed> anyone???
[09:53] <Ti_Uhl> kbrooks : i need it for school
[09:53] <Blissex> luite: the 6600GT and the 6800LE are about the same speed overall, AGP or PCI-E
[09:53] <atripathi> kbrooks why dont ya get edubuntu
[09:54] <Belutz> Ti_Uhl, so i suggest you wat for 8 more days :)
[09:54] <damo21> i am running preview breezy... what will happen when the official release comes out?
[09:54] <Belutz> *wait
[09:54] <Blissex> luite: the 6600GT performs a bit better on complex scenes, the 6800LE on AA/Anisotropic.
[09:54] <kbrooks> atripathi: i'm on ubuntu
[09:54] <Blissex> luite: and their price is about the same.
[09:54] <Ti_Uhl> Belutz : will do that then :)
[09:54] <dazzed> can anyone help me installing packages that are being "held"
[09:54] <damo21> what do i do with it?
[09:54] <bloodnik> nalioth, I added the backports that ubotu told me to but I'm getting the same problems with a few packages.
[09:54] <atripathi> sorry not for you......but to Ti_Uhl
[09:54] <Answer> dazzed: held where?
[09:54] <kbrooks> damo21: you can apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade then
[09:54] <Ti_Uhl> maybe it's for the best, it's just that i'am really looking forward to see the changes :)
[09:54] <luite> Blissex: ah, and that's about my price range, the lowest prices are just under 150 euros
[09:54] <atripathi> edubuntu project is for schools
[09:54] <damo21> cool :D
[09:54] <kbrooks> or use the update manager
[09:54] <luite> Blissex: at least here in nl :)
[09:55] <Blissex> luite: if you look at the graphics card mass tests on TomsHardware.com or XbitLabs.com, from say 6 months ago.
[09:55] <Blissex> luite: yes, exactly, they are almost exactly the same price.
[09:55] <kbrooks> so what's this, a "connect to server"
[09:55] <Ti_Uhl> atripathi : don't need all the school apps :) i'm getting my master degree in IT
[09:55] <Blissex> luite: I got the 6800LE because I got the AGP version which can be unlocked to become a 6800 in many cases...
[09:55] <Ti_Uhl> so it's basicly for programming :)
[09:55] <damo21> kbrooks... ive enabled all the universe and multiverse stuff... is that bad if i do the dist-upgrade?
[09:55] <Belutz> kbrooks, it allows you to connect to ftp server, samba server, etc
[09:55] <kbrooks> damo21: No
[09:55] <luite> Blissex: ah, the pci-e version can't be unlocked?
[09:55] <Blissex> Ti_Uhl: if you are in a western country, welcome to a life flipping hamburgers and waiting tables.
[09:56] <mortal_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2765
[09:56] <kbrooks> Belutz: i'm exploring it ;)
[09:56] <atripathi> hehe    here normally school refers to the institution till HigherSecondary
[09:56] <Blissex> luite: no, because for PCI-E the 6800LE and 6800 are actually two distinct chipsets.
[09:56] <Ti_Uhl> Blissex : i'm from belgium :)
[09:56] <mortal_> Belutz, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2765
[09:56] <nalioth> damo21: not at all
[09:56] <Blissex> Ti_Uhl: you are dooooood :-).
[09:56] <luite> Blissex: hm, too bad :(  but 6600gt sounds good then
[09:56] <Ti_Uhl> lol
[09:56] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[09:56] <Belutz> Ti_Uhl, may I pm you ?
[09:56] <Ti_Uhl> yeah
[09:56] <Ti_Uhl> :)
[09:56] <kbrooks> Belutz: nice, functions great
[09:56] <Belutz> mortal_, i'll take a look
[09:56] <Blissex> luite: depends... Look at the reviews and graphs though.
[09:57] <Nvidiot> <- from The Netherlands, moved to Australia :)
[09:57] <ProN00b> ubuntu is using xorg and not xfree, right ?
[09:57] <luite> Blissex: yup I will, but they only test with windows, right?
[09:57] <Nvidiot> ProN00b: correct
[09:57] <damo21> kbrooks: thats cool, so in theory all the packages should work... i havent done any nasty hacking only used apt-get packages :)
[09:57] <kbrooks> ProN00b: As of breezy
[09:57] <Blissex> Nvidiot: how is the IT job market in Australia nowadays...
[09:57] <funkyHat> kbrooks, i'm pretty sure hoary was on xorg too
[09:57] <z4ck> lol
[09:57] <Blissex> luite: yes, but the NBIDIA driver under Linux is the same as under MS Windows with some slightly different glue code.
[09:57] <SaintXaero> could someone help a noob for a sec?
[09:57] <Nvidiot> Blissex: it's *supposed* to be good, but I can't find a halfdecent admin job to do on the side (I'm studying for my masters computer science in networking/security at the moment)
[09:57] <z4ck> he uses degree to make a website selling boomrangs
[09:58] <kbrooks> funkyHat: are you sure the wiki said that in breezy xfree86 -> xorg?
[09:58] <bloodnik> Anyone help me fix this? libavcodeccvs: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[09:58] <damo21> haha
[09:58] <Nvidiot> Ask a SPECIFIC question, IF anyone CAN help, they will. Be patient, remember that your mother does not live here and you are responsible for your own mess. While you are waiting USE GOOGLE!
[09:58] <Nvidiot> ;)
[09:58] <bloodnik> there are four such dependeny problems.
[09:58] <Blissex> luite: various tests show that the NVIDIA driver under Linux is about the same speed as under MS Windows... so don't worry.
[09:58] <SaintXaero> what driver should i use for my nvidia card?
[09:58] <Belutz> mortal_, it looks fine, but i suggest, you uncomment the breezy-security universe, make an apt-get update and search again for build-essential
[09:58] <funkyHat> kbrooks, no, not sure, i just remember always being on xorg
[09:58] <luite> Blissex: ok, tnx for all the tips :P I'll search toms hardware for the benchmarks for my games
[09:58] <ScatterBrain> Will the OpenOffice that ships with Breezy be 2.0? or a late beta like 1,9.9?
[09:58] <mortal_> k
[09:58] <Blissex> luite: or XbitLabs too
[09:58] <ProN00b> xorg-x11-devel, does someone know what the ubuntu package name for that is ?
[09:58] <luite> ok that too :)
[09:58] <Nvidiot> SaintXaero: the standard nv driver is fine for 2d work. If you want 3d accelleration, you'll have to install the nvidia binary driver
[09:59] <damo21> ProNOOb use synaptic to find it
[09:59] <funkyHat> ScatterBrain, currently it's a late beta, i don't know if 2 will be backported to breezy or not
[09:59] <Blissex> luite: wait a sec for some link, I did a web search yesterday. They might be useful to you...
[09:59] <atripathi> k Goodnite everyone......its 2 AM here
[09:59] <SaintXaero> i mean which do i download though? there are like 5
[09:59] <Blissex> luite: probably very useful actually -- there are some very nice NVIDIA tweaking utilities for Linux too.
[09:59] <SaintXaero> ia32?
[09:59] <Nvidiot> SaintXaero: don't manually install things. Use Synaptic
[09:59] <kbrooks> ScatterBrain: let me check
[10:00] <ScatterBrain> funkyHat: The backported OO.o in Hoary is 1.9.7, right?
[10:00] <SaintXaero> hm?
[10:00] <Blissex> luite: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-310871-start-0-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-.html
[10:00] <damo21> ive been screwing around with ati drivers... whats the best way to put things back the way dpkg made it when i installed
[10:00] <Nvidiot> SaintXaero: Synaptic is the package manager
[10:00] <Answer> !tell SaintXaero about synaptic
[10:00] <kbrooks> funkyHat: breezy is under a full freeze iirc
[10:00] <Nvidiot> SaintXaero: if you use that you can easily install and uninstall software :)
[10:00] <Blissex> luite: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=54095&highlight=nibitor
[10:00] <Blissex> luite: http://www.garrulous-geek.co.uk/nvtuner
[10:00] <Blissex> luite: http://home.comcast.net/~bnolsen/nvtuner.cc
[10:00] <SaintXaero> but liek...which download do i pick?
[10:00] <funkyHat> kbrooks, yes, that would make sense, but i wasn't sure as OOo is beta currently
[10:00] <damo21> how do i reconfigure xorg with ati-drivers?
[10:01] <[LethAL] > funkyHat, I beleive it's RC now
[10:01] <damo21> i want to use the proper way not editing conf files
[10:01] <mortal_> mortal@BadCyborg:/usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>$ sudo apt-cache search build-essentials
[10:01] <mortal_> mortal@BadCyborg:/usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>$
[10:01] <Answer> damo21: get fglrx
[10:01] <funkyHat> ScatterBrain, 1.9.129
[10:01] <Nvidiot> SaintXaero: again, do *not* go to www.nvidia.com to install the nvidia driver
[10:01] <SaintXaero> or at least, how do i fix my screen resolution?
[10:01] <funkyHat> yes, it is RC, as of yesterday
[10:01] <Answer> SaintXaero: fixres
[10:01] <SaintXaero> it won't let me like...ungay my resolution
[10:01] <funkyHat> bye bye brown
[10:02] <damo21> Answer: thanks
[10:02] <[LethAL] > I'm on brown :S
[10:02] <z4ck> damo21, download the ati propierty driver... after installing run fglrxconf in console
[10:02] <Blissex> BTW, if anybody has an NVIDIA 6800LE under Linux, the links above for <luite> might interest them too.
[10:02] <funkyHat> eh... so am i! lol
[10:02] <[LethAL] > lol... wtf
[10:02] <kbrooks> in breezy
[10:02] <kbrooks> ATTN
[10:02] <Blissex> luite: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74787&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
[10:02] <z4ck> id update your kernal before doing so
[10:02] <kbrooks> openoffice is 1.1.5
[10:02] <kbrooks> iirc
[10:02] <funkyHat> no, it's not
[10:02] <ProN00b> is it possible to have only one linux server and the users all connecting with thin x clients to it ?
[10:02] <mortal_> Belutz, I updated my sources.list, did sudo apt-get update
[10:03] <funkyHat> actually...
[10:03] <funkyHat> eh
[10:03] <[LethAL] > ProN00b, yes
[10:03] <mortal_> mortal@BadCyborg:/usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>$ sudo apt-cache search build-essentials
[10:03] <mortal_> mortal@BadCyborg:/usr/src/linux-<IP_ADDRESS>$
[10:03] <slak> hey
[10:03] <kbrooks> funkyHat: look in /usr/bin/openoffice
[10:03] <funkyHat> lol, i've been on OOo betas since before upgrading
[10:03] <slak> can somone help me
[10:03] <kbrooks> read it
[10:03] <[LethAL] > ProN00b, I don't really know anything about it
[10:03] <kbrooks> the script
[10:03] <Belutz> mortal_, build-essential not build-essentials
[10:03] <[LethAL] > slak, what's up
[10:03] <mortal_> o
[10:03] <Belutz> mortal_, without 's'
[10:03] <funkyHat> so the actual OOo package will still be a 1.1 version
[10:03] <funkyHat> :$
[10:03] <damo21> hmm... hang on... so i should 1) upgrade kernel  2) apt-get install fglrx ??
[10:03] <z4ck> bll getting food
[10:03] <slak> I NEED HELP WITH MY UBUNTU I INSTALLED IT AND ITS SAYING I'M MISSING LIBKENTUCKYFRIEDCHICKEN.SO.40 WHEN I TRY TO COMPILE
[10:03] <z4ck> yes
[10:04] <z4ck> dont do apt-get install fglrx
[10:04] <slak> GUESS THATS WHAT I GET FOR INSTALLING A NIGGER OPERATING SYSTEM
[10:04] <[LethAL] > STOP THE SHOUTING
[10:04] <z4ck> u want to goto ati.com
[10:04] <bloodnik> Anyone help me fix this? libavcodeccvs: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu14 is to be installed
[10:04] <kbrooks> slak: troll.
[10:04] <ScatterBrain> damo21: "apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx"
[10:04] <SaintXaero> how do i make my resolution 1280x1024, it won't let mee:(
[10:04] <kbrooks> [LethAL] : dont feed the troll
[10:04] <slept>  /ignore slack
[10:04] <ProN00b> lol, slak
[10:04] <slak> SaintXaero: FIRST STEP INSTALL A REAL OS AND READ THE FUCKING MANUAL
[10:04] <[LethAL] > !lart slak
[10:04] <damo21> ati.com drivers are better? so i have to manually compile my kernel?
[10:04] <[LethAL] > No, lart it instead :d
[10:04] <sambagirl> slak is pure bigot
[10:04] <sambagirl> why younot kick him
[10:04] <funkyHat> !ops
[10:04] <ubotu> it has been said that ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[10:04] <kbrooks> [LethAL] : don't lart, not appropriate
[10:05] <[LethAL] > :-(
[10:05] <ScatterBrain> damo21: I didn't have too.
[10:05] <z4ck> slak, stupid racist
[10:05] <slak> NIGGER PLEASE
[10:05] <kbrooks> z4ck.
[10:05] <z4ck> slak, stupid racist
[10:05] <sambagirl> i made joke and was persicuted and now he ocme here and says these nastythings about people? why he is not banned?
[10:05] <bloodnik> SaintXaero, you've probably not set up xorg to support it. run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and you'll get to a list of resolutions
[10:05] <damo21> ok :D surely there is a ubuntu wiki on the latest ati drivers?
[10:05] <Seveas> slak has been banned before
[10:05] <Seveas> the creep
[10:05] <nalioth> z4ck: you should not feed the trolls
[10:05] <ProN00b> wah, i need xorg-x11-devel
[10:05] <damo21> !info ati wiki
[10:05] <Seveas> he's on my list of permbans now
[10:06] <sambagirl> thank you seveas
[10:06] <z4ck> lol nalioth
[10:06] <z4ck> i bet he all wants us to switch to " slackware"
[10:06] <z4ck> what a joke
[10:06] <Mustard5> :)
[10:06] <kbrooks> z4ck: slackware is another linux distro
[10:06] <bloodnik> nalioth, you asked me if I had backports.
[10:06] <ScatterBrain> ubotu: tell ScatterBrain about fglrx
[10:07] <Seveas> z4ck, please keep the coc in mind - cheering bans/feeding trolls is not done
[10:07] <z4ck> ubuntu has got to be the one of the best linux distros to date
[10:07] <nalioth> bloodnik: backports will keep you from cleanly upgrading/adding things
[10:07] <ScatterBrain> ubotu: tell damo21 about fglrx
[10:07] <bloodnik> Should I remove it then?
[10:07] <nalioth> bloodnik: that would help
[10:07] <bloodnik> OK
[10:07] <damo21> z4ck...  Wanted 8, got 7
[10:08] <yaaar> i've tried dropping and rebuilding the db, as well as the update_mysql_tables script
[10:08] <slept> nalioth, thanks
[10:08] <damo21> i dont want to risk breaking ubuntu
[10:08] !lilo:*! Small split a few minutes ago, affected users, about 400
[10:08] <kbrooks> Hmmm.
[10:08] <nalioth> damo21: then only use official repos and backports sparingly (when needed)
[10:09] <mortal_> Belutz, thx, anything else i would need to compile a kernel (besides src)
[10:09] <mortal_> ?
[10:09] <damo21> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx is the official way?
[10:09] <nalioth> mortal_: "build-essental"
[10:09] <nalioth> mortal_: "build-essential"
[10:09] <ScatterBrain> damo21: YES!
[10:09] <Belutz> nalioth, he already installed that :)
[10:09] <Belutz> nalioth, anything else for him?
[10:10] <mortal_> heh
[10:10] <Seveas> mortal_, the source, a compiler and gmake is enough
[10:10] <Seveas> kernel cannot have library requirements
[10:10] <mortal_> i just tried make menuconfig and it didn't work
[10:10] <Seveas> that's not compiling ;)
[10:10] <damo21> LOL ubuntu didnt ship standard with gcc
[10:10] <Seveas> damo21, yes it does
[10:10] <Seveas> it's just not installed by default
[10:10] <damo21> i had to select it as a package in breezy
[10:10] <damo21> :D
[10:11] <Seveas> mortal_, libncurses-dev oslt
[10:11] <z4ck> damo21, yea that was the first things i installed
[10:11] <Seveas> damo21, so?
[10:11] <mortal_> O right! curses
[10:11] <kbrooks> damo21: ship != install
[10:11] <damo21> i got a shock thats all when i tried to compile something
[10:11] <mortal_> what's oslt?
[10:11] <damo21> :P
[10:11] <Seveas> !oslt
[10:11] <ubotu> Seveas: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[10:11] <kbrooks> damo21: ubuntu ships with the gcc *package*
[10:11] <Seveas> !oslt is or something like that
[10:11] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[10:11] <kbrooks> it does not *install* the gcc package
[10:11] <funkyHat> :/
[10:12] <z4ck> its on the cd
[10:12] <ProN00b> omg, what do they mean with SDL ?
[10:12] <damo21> okay okay i just thought it should install the gcc package by default
[10:12] <bloodnik> nalioth, the same packages are trying to install the wrong ones still :(
[10:12] <funkyHat> hahaha
[10:12] <ProN00b> its suposed to be a package name
[10:12] <nalioth> bloodnik: type "sudo apt-get -f install"
[10:12] <kbrooks> not necessary for desktop installs, damo21.
[10:12] <bloodnik> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 6 not upgraded.
[10:12] <Nvidiot> no compiler is a smart thing to do security-wise
[10:12] <Enz> hey im having difficulty installing java-package, dpkg error processing package
[10:12] <damo21> okay :D
[10:12] <bloodnik> I already tried upgrade and dist-upgrade
[10:13] <bloodnik> It keeps them back.
[10:13] <kbrooks> installing a compiler that is
[10:13] <Nvidiot> will slow an attacker down because he can't use the compiler to compile his favorite tool
[10:13] <damo21> haha
[10:13] <nalioth> bloodnik: hoary or breezy?
[10:13] <bloodnik> hoary
[10:13] <kbrooks> Nvidiot: true
[10:13] <Nvidiot> not to mention it'll prevent the average user from compiling programs instead of using apt/synaptic
[10:13] <nalioth> bloodnik: then i'm lost. what pkg are you trying to install?
[10:14] <bloodnik> libavcodeccvs, for transcode
[10:14] <damo21> Nvidiot, u are right, its not too hard to install the package after
[10:14] <damo21> :D
[10:14] <damo21> ubuntu is the best :D
[10:14] <Dreamglider> now i have a ubuntu ISO here,  Ubuntu-6.04-DVD-i386.iso when i try to install ubuntu from it i get tons of errors(i dont remember them) how can i check the iso against a md5 checksum file ?
[10:14] <ProN00b> nooooo
[10:15] <nalioth> bloodnik: build them from source, using apt
[10:15] <Nvidiot> Dreamglider: md5sum blah.iso and compare with the md5sum that it should be
[10:15] <Mustard5> 6.04?
[10:15] <bloodnik> How do I do that? :o
[10:15] <Nvidiot> probably a typo for 5.04
[10:15] <Mustard5> k
[10:15] <Mustard5> thought I was missing out :D
[10:15] <silent_scream> when I try to download iget that error message:
[10:15] <silent_scream> XML parsing error
[10:15] <silent_scream> Location: chrome://mozzapps/content/download/downloads.xul
[10:15] <silent_scream> Linenumber 1, column 1:
[10:15] <silent_scream> .Value, "FileExtensions") + ")";
[10:15] <silent_scream> ^
[10:15] <Dreamglider> that s the name of the file 6.04
[10:15] <[LethAL] > No pasting
[10:15] <silent_scream> what should I do?
[10:16] <Seveas> silent_scream, you should learn how to behave on IRC
[10:16] <damo21> man, ive been so excited with ubuntu i havent slept for a week
[10:16] <silent_scream> ok
[10:16] <damo21> rofl
[10:16] <mortal_> Nvidiot, walago you said *don't* install the nvidia package from nvidia.com, why not?
[10:16] <Nvidiot> mortal_: because it's in the package management system
[10:16] <silent_scream> sorry, the second thing
[10:16] <Seveas> and just retry the download a few times, happened to me last week and retrting solved it
[10:16] <mortal_> Nvidiot, ah i see
[10:16] <nalioth> silent_scream: do not paste in here, please. read the /topic
[10:16] <Mustard5> there is a seperate section for pasting, so it doesnt appear on everyones screen here, silent_scream
[10:16] <Nvidiot> that's a *LOT* easier to manage than downloading it, messing with kernel headers, compiling etc
[10:17] <Dreamglider> how do i check the iso with the md5 thing ?
[10:17] <mortal_> last time I tried the nvidia-glx driver, I was sadly dissapointed with it's performance
[10:17] <Seveas> md5sum -c filename.iso
[10:17] <silent_scream> well ok http://pastebin.com/383088
[10:18] <Seveas> and just retry the download a few times, happened to me last week and retrting solved it <-- silent_scream
[10:18] <Dreamglider> i m on WinXP atm dos does not know the md5sum command
[10:18] <Seveas> then get an md5sum utility from download.com
[10:18] <damo21> Dreamglider download winmd5sum
[10:18] <bloodnik> nalioth, how do I use apt to build from source?
[10:19] <Seveas> bloodnik, apt-get -b source $packagename
[10:19] <bloodnik> I already tried getting a tarball but it had compilation errors.
[10:19] <deFrysk> bloodnik, apt-get source -b package
[10:19] <bloodnik> oh, thanks :)
[10:19] <pir> Is there any log of this channel (and for irc in general)..?
[10:19] <silent_scream> Seveas,  i retried it many times nothing happened, that was caused by an updating!
[10:19] <deFrysk> bloodnik, first apt-get build dep package
[10:20] <Seveas> silent_scream, close firefox, restart it...
[10:21] <damo21> how does ogg compare with mp3 in size?
[10:21] <Dreamglider> where do i get a md5sum for Ubuntu 6.04 ?
[10:21] <nalioth> bloodnik: b4 you do what Seveas said, do a "sudo apt-get build-dep $packagename"
[10:21] <nalioth> Dreamglider: there is no such thing
[10:21] <deFrysk> ogg = smaller when quality is same
[10:21] <deFrysk> about 10 percent I think
[10:21] <damo21> but how come i did mp32ogg and it came bigger
[10:21] <Enquest> hello, I got a second harddisk (slave) in my computer... How do I mount this second hardisk wich has EXT3 partition on it?
[10:21] <Dreamglider> where do i get a md5sum for Ubuntu 5.04.ISO sorry
[10:22] <Jowi> hi all
[10:22] <deFrysk> damo21, check the compressionrate
[10:22] <mortal_> anyone have an audigy sound card?
[10:22] <nalioth> Dreamglider: cdimage.ubuntu.com
[10:22] <silent_scream> thanx every one
[10:22] <slept> Enquest, mount /dev/hd.. /mnt use tabcompletion
[10:22] <Mustard5> is audigy the same as any soundblaster card?
[10:22] <damo21> i would like to convert my mp3s to ogg because its open source codec
[10:23] <deFrysk> damo21, converting from mp3 to ogg gives some more quality loss so I would not do it
[10:23] <mortal_> damo21, don't waste your time, you'll loose serious quality
[10:23] <slept> damo21, that will make bad quality
[10:23] <damo21> ok
[10:23] <silwol> good evening
[10:23] <mortal_> Mustard5, yeah, it's a sb audigy
[10:23] <Enquest> slept, but how do I now wich HD it is?
[10:23] <oO_will_Oo> Will changing my repositories to the Breezy Badger repositories make Ubuntu update GNOME to v2.12 also?
[10:23] <Mustard5> I'm using soundblaster
[10:24] <nalioth> oO_will_Oo: yes
[10:24] <deFrysk> damo21, yust rip your audio cd's to ogg its good quality then :)
[10:24] <[LethAL] > If you ask it to upgrade, yes
[10:24] <oO_will_Oo> thanks
[10:24] <damo21> audio cds? who has those?
[10:24] <slept> Enquest, use tab to find out hdb.. or hdd..
[10:24] <damo21> :)
[10:24] <silwol> can somebody tell me if i can use the scanning function of the hp psc 1110 in breezy?
[10:24] <deFrysk> damo21, tsk! ;p
[10:24] <mortal_> damo21, ppl that buy music?
[10:24] <mortal_> :p
[10:24] <damo21> mine are all lost!
[10:24] <Mustard5> to my tone deaf ear...there is no difference to the quality when converting from mp3 to ogg :D
[10:24] <damo21> i cant find them
[10:24] <Enquest> slept wich one ? hda   hda1  hda2  hda5  hda6  hda7  hdb   hdb1  hdb2  hdb5  hdc   hdd
[10:24] <damo21> hehe
[10:24] <Jowi> btw, anyone been able to reach gmail? (weblogin and pop times out - smtp seem ok.)
[10:24] <deFrysk> damo21, mine too but i backed them up luckily
[10:24] <damo21> rofl
[10:25] <Enquest> And how do I permently mount such a thing to my filesystem
[10:25] <mortal_> ogg does have crisper sound quality imho
[10:25] <damo21> really?
[10:25] <mortal_> yes
[10:25] <slept> Enquest, just try . add a line to /etc/fstab
[10:25] <nalioth> ogg and mp3 comparisons in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[10:25] <mortal_> hehe
[10:26] <mortal_> nalioth, ok, on topic, I can't seem to get my sb audigy working
[10:26] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mortal_ about sound
[10:26] <damo21> timidity is very good i can make my own music with soundfont synthesis direct to ogg
[10:27] <kennethlove> is there any way, using Gnome's Disks utility, to make a disk permenantly accessible? or do i need to edit fstab?
[10:28] <Mustard5> edit fstab
[10:28] <kennethlove> figured. thanks.
[10:28] <damo21> i am guessing it should be possible
[10:28] <damo21> without editing text files
[10:29] <damo21> most things are configurable in gnome guis
[10:29] <damo21> :)
[10:29] <slept> damo21, when you get used to edit files , you don't want to do it an other way :) or thats why I hate yast
[10:30] <damo21> yeah there is still the beauty of vi
[10:30] <damo21> :D
[10:30] <kennethlove> i don't have any problems with editing the fstab myself. just figured it could be done through the GUI if they offer that much already.
[10:30] <BlankB> vi? think sed.
[10:31] <kbrooks> kennethlove: no way
[10:31] <deFrysk> nano peeps , nano
[10:31] <damo21> lol edit fstab with sed??
[10:31] <slept> joe
[10:31] <damo21> omg
[10:31] <deFrysk> :D
[10:31] <kennethlove> i figured i'd just use this magnetized needle i keep tucked behind my ear.
[10:32] <damo21> hehe
[10:32] <Nvidiot> oh come on, use edlin!
[10:32] <damo21> flip the required magnets on the hdd track surface
[10:32] <deFrysk> !tell emile about sudo
[10:33] <basti__> How can I make a program run when I login to X, for example gdesklets ?
[10:33] <kennethlove> damo21: yeah, that's the idea. :)
[10:33] <nalioth> basti__: system > prefs > sessions
[10:33] <damo21> u could do it in C with interrupt 13
[10:33] <damo21> lol
[10:34] <basti__> thank you nalioth !!
[10:34] <damo21> hmm u could just write your own kernel in C:    _main { ........
[10:37] <slept> anyone wants to play trivia ?
[10:38] <cake-fork> Hi. My Hoary broke on an update (kernel panics on boot) so I updated the kernel, initrd-tools, linux-restricted-modules and dependencies to breezy. Now it boots but modprobe can't find the nvidia module. How do I fix it?
[10:38] <nalioth> slept: in #ubuntu-offtopic all day long
[10:38] <pir> IS there any archive of this channel?
[10:39] <nalioth> pir: read the /topic
[10:41] <schimmi> anybody here who have tried acpi suspend on Acer TM800?
[10:42] <Mustard5> schimmi, nope
[10:42] <Mustard5> not i
[10:42] <ReleaseX> if i install the prerelease of breezy, what are the differences (how hard is it to upgrade) to the full release when it comes out
[10:43] <deFrysk> ReleaseX, easy , just update regurarly
[10:43] <deFrysk> no differences
[10:43] <gilligan_> ReleaseX: you should be fixed by just running some apt upgrades
[10:43] <Mustard5> Without seeing a full release I think that would be hard to predict, just my thoughts
[10:44] <etnoy> am I the only one who feels that he gets a complete new xorg tree every other day on breezy?
[10:44] <jcurry> I am using the web-based chat program in Moodle, (an FOSS e-learning tool) and there is a "beep" option to sort of ping another chat member...but every time i am "beeped", i do not hear the actual wav file played, i just get the plugin bar, which fails to find any plugins to handle x-audio/wave...what do i do to fix it
[10:44] <jcurry> (I am using firefox)
[10:44] <deFrysk> etnoy, they hope to get to updatenr 100 before stable release
[10:44] <etnoy> I update it regularly, and the updates are really coming in fast, but almost every time I get 20+ xorg packages to update
[10:44] <Jondo> Hi, whenever I try to use setxkbmap I get "Error loading new keyboard description"
[10:45] <oO_will_Oo> ReleaseX: if you update to Breezy by modifying your repositories, it should automatically upgrade to the full release
[10:45] <etnoy> deFrysk: probably :)
[10:45] <deFrysk> etnoy, xorg has been modularised thats why there are so many
[10:45] <Jondo> etnoy: Thats because all the xorg servers parts are split now for some reason
[10:45] <Mustard5> jcurry, you using 5.04?
[10:45] <Jondo> etnoy: I think maybe they're preparing for something like kdrive?
[10:45] <deFrysk> Jondo, its easyer to maintain that way
[10:46] <Jondo> ah
[10:46] <etnoy> Jondo: I know that xorg is modular, but I get a new version almost every time I update
[10:46] <Mustard5> jcurry, I'm assuming you haven't tried some of the How-To's on the forum concerning setting up firefox to work with flash and stuff?
[10:46] <etnoy> that's what I wondered about
[10:46] <Maikeru> neone know the official release date of Breezy?
[10:46] <Jondo> etnoy: They're working out bugs
[10:46] <JairunCaloth> I can't get my windows slave drive to mount
[10:46] <etnoy> Maikeru: 13th I think
[10:47] <deFrysk> etnoy, importand package so its importand to eradicate all bugs
[10:47] <Maikeru> NOOOO
[10:47] <Jondo> Does anyone else have issues with setxkbmap and Breezy?
[10:47] <Maikeru> If it was one day later
[10:47] <Maikeru> it'd be on my bday
[10:47] <etnoy> Jondo: Sure, a lot of QA to do
[10:47] <oO_will_Oo> It is
[10:47] <oO_will_Oo> 14th
[10:47] <etnoy> Maikeru: haha
[10:47] <Maikeru> Shut up will
[10:47] <Maikeru> no one likes you
[10:47] <Maikeru> :P
[10:47] <oO_will_Oo> oh, sorry
[10:47] <oO_will_Oo> 13th
[10:47] <mortal_> is anyone here running on a vanila kernel?
[10:47] <etnoy> deFrysk: that's for sure.
[10:47] <Maikeru> btw: answer my IM>
[10:48] <kennethlove> your mother
[10:48] <etnoy> good, now that I know APT is kidding me :P
[10:48] <etnoy> I can tell they are working hard, I get really, really many updates today
[10:48] <nalioth> gentlemen, take the violence to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:48] <Jondo> mortal_: <IP_ADDRESS> from kernel.org
[10:48] <etnoy> takes ages just to downlad
[10:48] <Jondo> etnoy
[10:48] <mortal_> Jondo, anything major break on you in ubuntu?
[10:49] <Jondo> I get 1.5mb/s :)
[10:49] <etnoy> Jondo: yes?
[10:49] <etnoy> haha
[10:49] <Jondo> mortal_: Other than my keyboard map switching, no
[10:49] <Jondo> mortal_: But that's fairly annoying, as I really need to switch to German keymapping
[10:49] <etnoy> mm, the mirrors seem quite slow here. my max. speed is 800KiB, but now I'm at 25 :(
[10:50] <etnoy> and I'm using the swedish archive mirror
[10:50] <[LethAL] > etnoy, jump to one in a close country?
[10:50] <Jondo> etnoy: I'm using the one in France, and I'm located in Germany
[10:50] <Nvidiot> the iinet mirror is extremely fast if you're on iinet adsl2 :D
[10:50] <etnoy> Jondo: are there reliable unofficial mirrors?
[10:51] <gilligan_> hm.. having some problems with libmp4v2-0 .. anyone experienced that aswell ? its trying to overwrite a library from other package
[10:51] <etnoy> I think I'd like to try one
[10:51] <Jondo> etnoy: I don't know of any.
[10:51] <jcurry> Mustard5: yes, i am using 5.04, but i'll take a look at the faqs
[10:51] <etnoy> Jondo: ok
[10:51] <AngryParsley> hey, I got gnupod working with my ipod
[10:51] <AngryParsley> and I uninstalled gtkpod and threw my backed up songs on my ipod
[10:51] <Mustard5> jcurry, yeah...I would think the same issues that stop flash sounds playing will be related to why other sounds aren't working in firefox..just a guess :)
[10:51] <etnoy> Has anyone of you got scsi-emul to work to enable fast cd ripping?
[10:51] <etnoy> on breezy or hoary
[10:52] <slept> Jondo,  loadkeys /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz/de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz
[10:52] <etnoy> I don't, even though I've done it before (in gentoo)
[10:52] <AngryParsley> gnupod was able to rebuild the database, but I lost my ratings and playcounts :(
[10:52] <FarrisG> Are there any tools for setting up an external monitor on a laptop? For instance, I installed 5.10 on my notebook, and everything worked fine at the screen's detected native resolution, but when I plug in a CRT, the normal resolution is not ideal. Anything capable of changing this on the fly so that it's in native when I'm using the LCD, but in some higher resolution when using the crt?
[10:52] <deFrysk> etnoy, not needed with 2.6x kernels
[10:52] <etnoy> deFrysk: for audio cd ripping it is
[10:52] <etnoy> wish it wasn't
[10:52] <deFrysk> etnoy, how so ?
[10:52] <deFrysk> never use it
[10:53] <oO_will_Oo> FarrisG: System >> Preferences >> Screen Resolution
[10:53] <AngryParsley> why would you need it for ripping? you can read CDs just fine without SCSI emulation
[10:53] <etnoy> deFrysk: well, I'm not sure of how, but you get about 5-10x speed increase in cdparanoia
[10:53] <etnoy> AngryParsley: yeah, but at a weird slow rate
[10:53] <etnoy> and it is more error-prone
[10:53] <etnoy> at least on forums.gentoo.org that is an established fact, and I can tell that it works
[10:53] <AngryParsley> I'm going to take the pepsi challege here and try ripping a CD
[10:53] <etnoy> tried it myself
[10:53] <Answer> hey why am I +e ?
[10:53] <deFrysk> etnoy, sorry havnt touched scsi-emu since my last 2.4x kernel
[10:54] <etnoy> slow cd ripping is one of the bigger problems for my friend who's new to ubuntu
[10:54] <Answer> Question:  I want to ssh to a remote computer and then view a webpage on that network thru the ssh tunnel, is it possible?
[10:54] <etnoy> he's got tons of cd's
[10:54] <AngryParsley> lol, my pete yorn disc has a bunch of stuff that autoruns on windows machines
[10:54] <etnoy> deFrysk: okay
[10:54] <Jondo> slept: Hmm. Will that work in X?
[10:54] <slept> etnoy, use abcde
[10:54] <Mustard5> Answer, I've heard of it being done
[10:54] <etnoy> slept: cdparanoia is the same :)
[10:55] <etnoy> abcde _uses_ cdparanoia FYI
[10:55] <etnoy> abcde is nice, my fav app
[10:55] <slept> Jondo, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg select the right keyboard layout
[10:55] <etnoy> but I need sound-juicer to work too, just because (and because my friend uses it)
[10:56] <flodine> guys how long will i be able to run 5.04
[10:56] <etnoy> flodine: at least 12 months from now
[10:56] <oO_will_Oo> it's supported for 12 months more
[10:56] <etnoy> flodine: ubuntu supports each release at least 18 months from release
[10:56] <slept> flodine, till you break or remove it
[10:57] <Answer> until thermonuclear meltdown shuts off all the electricity... but then you could still get a generator
[10:57] <etnoy> flodine: and you don't need to update to breezy if you don't want
[10:57] <etnoy> Answer: or a mouse in a wheel
[10:57] <flodine> im on breezy now about to try debian sarge
[10:57] <etnoy> or a rack of 100+ mice
[10:57] <inc|freaky> hi all im trying to start cups but it says: start-stop-daemon: Unable to open pidfile `/var/run/cups/cupsd.pid' for writing: Permission denied (Permission denied)
[10:58] <autoprime> i just burned the power pc version of the live cd.. anyone know why it wont boot?
[10:58] <etnoy> inc|freaky: using sudo?
[10:58] <oO_will_Oo> inc|freaky: are you root?
[10:58] <inc|freaky> oops it worked :D
[10:58] <Jondo> autoprime: Have you put the cd in the drive? Is the power cord plugged in?
[10:58] <inc|freaky> thx ^^
[10:59] <autoprime> hehe yes... and cd drive is set to boot b4 hdd
[10:59] <etnoy> inc|freaky: is the printer on fire?
[10:59] <etnoy> :D
[10:59] <autoprime> its not reading as a bootable iso
[10:59] <Maikeru> <3 Bastille
[10:59] <ompaul> autoprime, did you check the file md5sum before your burnt it? {I don't do ppc, standard question }
[10:59] <autoprime> no i havent.. ill try that. i shouldve triedthat. thx
[11:00] <ompaul> autoprime, not knowing your software, did you burn a file or burn an image?
[11:00] <inc|freaky> etnoy: no :)
[11:00] <autoprime> burn the image
[11:00] <inc|freaky> but i still cant print
[11:00] <AngryParsley> hmm, ripping is slow
[11:00] <AngryParsley> in fact sound juicer isn't responding
[11:00] <jcurry> I ahve flash working, but wav files are not being played by firefox....i get the plugin bar, but it cannot find any plugins
[11:01] <ompaul> !tell jcurry about flash
[11:01] <etnoy> AngryParsley: yes, indeed it is
[11:01] <os2mac> ok so forgive this nood question from a solaris admin....
[11:01] <AngryParsley> estimated time left: unknown
[11:01] <etnoy> and seems like scsi-emul still is the only option for fast ripping
[11:01] <AngryParsley> wow, it's doing nothing
[11:01] <etnoy> yes, same here
[11:02] <os2mac> is there a way (like pkgadd) that allows you to add .deb pkgs from the local drive?
[11:02] <etnoy> last week it dislayed the reading speed
[11:02] <jcurry> ompaul: i *have* flash, and it works fine...i need wav files to play...
[11:02] <AngryParsley> and there is a 0 byte flac file of the first track
[11:02] <ompaul> AngryParsley, try grip, its what I use for that if you are having problems
[11:02] <gilligan_> os2mac: dpkg -i [file]
[11:02] <AngryParsley> yeah, this program is about as useful as the emergency broadcast system
[11:02] <AngryParsley> (read: it's a test of my patience)
[11:03] <etnoy> brb, restart X server
[11:03] <gilligan_> AngryParsley: what program do you use for ripping?
[11:03] <AngryParsley> ompaul: does grip have a nice GUI?
[11:03] <AngryParsley> gilligan_: the default one for ubuntu
[11:03] <AngryParsley> sound juicer
[11:03] <ompaul> AngryParsley, its functional
[11:04] <ompaul> AngryParsley, hoary?
[11:04] <AngryParsley> no, breezy
[11:04] <gilligan_> AngryParsley: I usually use "abcde"
[11:05] <AngryParsley> I'll try grip out
[11:05] <sunsun> hi how do i set my sources.list to something akin to debian "testing"?
[11:05] <ompaul> jcurry, any other wav files play? andy other sound files play?
[11:05] <AbdulIsse> HI!
[11:05] <Dreamglider> is Ubuntu 5.10 stable and does one get suppert her on #ubuntu ?
[11:05] <barosl> does anyone know why development of DirectFB is slow?
[11:05] <gilligan_> AngryParsley: a simple command line tool that works just fine.. you just run abcde and it will start ripping your CD + fetch cddb infos
[11:05] <sunsun> firefox is messed up
[11:05] <AngryParsley> haha, they used the itunes radioactive icon
[11:06] <seethru> Dreamglider: yes 5.10 is stable
[11:06] <AngryParsley> ?
[11:06] <Dreamglider> and is it any good ?
[11:06] <AngryParsley> grip doesn't start
[11:06] <AbdulIsse> I have to admit, i never thought using Linux would be this good, i cant believe all the software and awesome everything is.
[11:06] <ompaul> AngryParsley, change CDs I have it working
[11:06] <AbdulIsse> Ubuntu 4 life!
[11:06] <drega> is anyone availiable to tell me how to create a boot disk for ubuntu?
[11:06] <seethru> AbdulIsse: welcome to the light side
[11:07] <Kyral> Welcome to the power of GNU
[11:07] <AngryParsley> and my load average just went through the roof
[11:07] <kennethlove> Dreamglider: works fine here.
[11:07] <Dreamglider> i mean good for a newbie ? :)
[11:07] <FarrisG> oO_will_Oo: That will only allow you to change resolution within the constraints of what has already been configured, which in the case of a laptop is native resolution only.
[11:07] <jcurry> ompaul: um....i can play sound, but not through firefox...it completely does not recognize x-audio/wave at all...how do i tell it howe to handle that?  about:plugins tells me i have mozplugger installed...but wave file are not listed
[11:07] <oO_will_Oo> ah
[11:07] <seethru> Dreamglider: as good, if not better, than hoary
[11:07] <inc|freaky> im trying to get printing to work. i get no error. KDE printers system settings says it cant restart cupsd as it cant find any running. but ps -aux shows cupsys   13726  1.4  0.1   6896  2020 ?        Ss   23:02   0:04 /usr/sbin/cupsd -F when i try lp somefile.txt it says: request id is deskjet_970c-4 (1 file(s)) its the 4rth thing im trying to print, so theres no error theres just no queue beeing
[11:07] <inc|freaky> processed - where is the error?
[11:07] <seethru> Dreamglider: even better hardware support IMO, my Audigy 2 ZS worked out of the box in Breezy, but not in Hoary
[11:07] <AbdulIsse> thank you seethru
[11:07] <AngryParsley> yeah, 6.23
[11:08] <drega> I've installed ubuntu to a usb disk and left the disk at home. i've restored the mbr with the windows cd but I'd like to e able to boot into ubuntu agian with out installing the boot loader.
[11:08] <Dreamglider> Allright well i better get that iso on disk then :)
[11:08] <x_o1> Anyone know how to configure the path that bluetooth uses to save files?  I cannot find the key in gconf, do I add it manully?
[11:08] <drega> whats the easiest way to install/create a boot disk?
[11:09] <AngryParsley> fuck, even kill -9 won't kill off grip
[11:09] <oO_will_Oo> drega: i would recommend jusat putting GAG onto a floppy
[11:09] <nalioth> AngryParsley: please watch your tongue
[11:09] <lsuactiafner> kill -9 -1 will.. along with everything else on the system heh
[11:09] <oO_will_Oo> *just
[11:09] <Amaranth> AngryParsley: It's 'Uninteruptible' (sp?)
[11:09] <fredforfaen> does gnome have a similar program as amarok?
[11:09] <drega> GAG?
[11:09] <AngryParsley> :(
[11:09] <ompaul> jcurry, have a look at edit preferences advanced - bottom corner - plugins<< that might have something to do with the problem
[11:09] <gilligan_> for newbies it's prolly a good idea to just wait a little bit.. breezy will soon be released..  upgrading now u might run into trouble that you cannot fix as newbie
[11:09] <Maikeru> http://gag.sf.net/
[11:09] <larsrohdin> hi, the program 'iptables' is installed by default by ubuntu right?  Is it activated by default? It is a sort of firewall right?
[11:09] <AngryParsley> bbl, I'm going to restart
[11:09] <[LethAL] > fredforfaen, rhythmbox
[11:09] <Amaranth> AngryParsley: The only solution is to wait for init to get rid of it (hours of waiting) or restarting.
[11:09] <fredforfaen> cool
[11:09] <[LethAL] > Not quite as good
[11:09] <ompaul> AngryParsley, no
[11:10] <fredforfaen> ille check it out
[11:10] <AngryParsley> ompaul: like Amaranth said, init will take forever to get rid of them
[11:10] <nalioth> larsrohdin: iptables is part of every linux, and by default in ubuntu does nothing overt
[11:10] <Amaranth> AngryParsley: I waiting 24 hours once, I think it might be a cron job.
[11:10] <AngryParsley> I'll go with the restarting
[11:11] <ompaul> AngryParsley, well - maybe but I would try killall grip and see what comes out of that
[11:11] <AngryParsley> ompaul: I also tried that, nothing
[11:11] <larsrohdin> nalioth, ok, how can I use it for securing my system? I use firestarter, but alot of people says that iptables is much better. is it?
[11:11] <ompaul> AngryParsley, init 6 then
[11:11] <AngryParsley> init 6?
[11:11] <ompaul> reboot
[11:11] <AngryParsley> oh, change to runlevel 6
[11:11] <ompaul> AngryParsley, :)
[11:11] <AngryParsley> well, I might as well update the kernel
[11:12] <drega> I'll give gag a shot thanks.
[11:12] <basti__> Could anyone tell me why shift+backspace kills my X and how I could remove this silly shortcut?
[11:12] <gilligan_> larsrohdin: without knowledge about networking you won't secure anything with iptables
[11:12] <basti__> restart* not kill
[11:12] <ompaul> basti__, it has been like that forever to prevent you from having to reboot if X freezes
[11:12] <jerryg> how do i open the fonts folder from breezy's nautillus ?
[11:12] <lsuactiafner> gilligan_ : iptables -I INPUT -j DROP
[11:12] <lsuactiafner> heh
[11:13] <floor_16> anyone know why I can ping, but can't get the browser to load webpages?
[11:13] <concept10> jerryg, try fonts:///
[11:13] <gilligan_> lsuactiafner: heh,right.. hooray for that firewall.. :)
[11:13] <jerryg> thank you concept
[11:13] <lsuactiafner> floor_16 : make sure you set the correct proxy and route to the gateway
[11:13] <basti__> ompaul, I thought it mas ctrl+alt+backspace.........
[11:13] <larsrohdin> gilligan_, well I have basic (a little more than basic) knowledgee about networks... How much do I need to know, and can't I learn something by using it?
[11:13] <ompaul> floor_16, by any chance do you have backports enabled in /etc/apt/source.list
[11:13] <oO_will_Oo> floor_16: could it be a dns server thingie?
[11:13] <lsuactiafner> gilligan_ : heh, i actually wrote a very nice firewall myself
[11:14] <lsuactiafner> well iptables ruleset
[11:14] <ompaul> basti__, ohh did not read :( sorry
[11:14] <AngryParsley> oh cool, all the copies of grip ended
[11:14] <lsuactiafner> or dns.. but ping does resolve also
[11:14] <basti__> -.-
[11:14] <`psych0> hi
[11:14] <AngryParsley> geoff@tiny:~$ ps ax | grep grip | wc -l
[11:14] <AngryParsley> 1
[11:14] <oO_will_Oo> but only if he pinged a URL in the first place
[11:14] <Maikeru> Will
[11:14] <`psych0> where are the .deb files stored *
[11:14] <AngryParsley> :)
[11:14] <`psych0> ?
[11:14] <Maikeru> no offense, but you're a dumbass
[11:14] <Maikeru> You get on AIM and then don't respond
[11:14] <gilligan_> larsrohdin: well i'd say u have to study iptables documents then
[11:14] <kacike> uga!
[11:15] <Maikeru> tomorrow at school I'll do the unbelievable
[11:15] <Maikeru> ...
[11:15] <Maikeru> I'LL BREAK YOUR STYLUS!
[11:15] <jcurry> ompaul: i looked at the plugins, wav is not listed there....how do i add it?
[11:15] <larsrohdin> gilligan_, ok, we'll see how it works out=)
[11:15] <oO_will_Oo> oh, i was gonna guess finish lunch soon
[11:15] <ompaul> jcurry, is there an add button? I have not looked
[11:15] <gilligan_> larsrohdin :-)
[11:15] <Maikeru> fu
[11:15] <Maikeru> :)
[11:15] <Mustard|Away> `psych0,  /var/cache/apt/archive
[11:15] <jcurry> ompaul: nope...
[11:16] <ompaul> !tell Maikeru about conduct
[11:16] <kacike> can anyone help me with mp3?
[11:16] <Maikeru> ompaul, I'm fine without being told about it
[11:16] <Maikeru> Thank you
[11:16] <floor_16> ompaul: I don't believe I have backports enabled. How would i tell in the file?
[11:16] <larsrohdin> gilligan_, except the man pages, do you know a good e.g. website about it?
[11:16] <P229> ubotu: tell kacike about mp3
[11:16] <basti__> !tell me about mp3
[11:17] <`psych0> Mustard|Away, thx and only a short question, how to unpack a deb file ?
[11:17] <Mustard|Away> ompaul, its entry would be uncommented if enabled
[11:17] <ompaul> floor_16,  grep backports /etc/apt/souces.list  <<  will give output if there is one
[11:17] <ompaul> Mustard|Away, should not be there unless added :)
[11:17] <Mustard|Away> `psych0, no idea :D
[11:17] <`psych0> LOL
[11:17] <propagandhi> 'psych0: u can use the deb2tar utility
[11:18] <floor_16> ompaul: no such luck.
[11:18] <propagandhi> db2targz i mean
[11:18] <ompaul> jcurry, let me look in a moment
[11:18] <gilligan_> larsrohdin: google for iptables.. you should find some big handbook somewhere i guess.. prolly a big howto somewhere on tldp.org
[11:18] <propagandhi> dammit i meant deb2targz
[11:18] <ompaul> floor_16, try starting it in a terminal and see if you get any clues why it is not starting
[11:18] <larsrohdin> gilligan_, ok thanks man
[11:19] <ghb> I'm having some problems installing a program: it keeps telling me I don't have permission. I've tried using sudo, but still gives the same error. =/
[11:19] <propagandhi> ghb: which program
[11:19] <ghb> propagandhi, Oh, hi again. =) MATLAB.
[11:19] <propagandhi> ahh Matlab, i havent installed that yet, you downloaded the package from somewhere?
[11:20] <ghb> propagandhi, No, I borrowed the CD from the uni.
[11:20] <propagandhi> ok, what format is the installer
[11:20] <ghb> Format...?
[11:20] <scribbles> how do I set gDesklets to open on boot?
[11:20] <propagandhi> is it a shell script, a deb file a source package?
[11:20] <ghb> Shell, I think.
[11:21] <propagandhi> it's .sh?
[11:21] <Jowi> scribbles: add them to your session manager in gnome
[11:21] <Ninjew> Does anybody have the 'evdev' driver working for xorg?
[11:21] <scribbles> session manager?
[11:21] <ghb> propagandhi, Yep.
[11:21] <propagandhi> ok, and you're just running it off the cd
[11:21] <ghb> propagandhi, Yep.
[11:21] <ompaul> floor_16, hoary or breezy?
[11:21] <Mustard5> scribbles, system>>preferences>>sessions
[11:21] <Jowi> scribbles: yep. sys->pref->sessions
[11:21] <propagandhi> have u tried copying the installer and files to a folder and installing from there?
[11:22] <scribbles> ahhh nice thx guys
[11:22] <ghb> propagandhi, Umm... no. I'll try that...
[11:22] <propagandhi> or copying to a folder and changing the permissions on the installer
[11:22] <ghb> propagandhi, How do I do that?
[11:22] <oO_will_Oo> chmod 777 foo.sh
[11:22] <Mustard5> ghb, with a chmod command
[11:22] <ghb> Mustard5, Ah, I've come across that command once or twice...
[11:23] <propagandhi> ghb: or you could chown <your username> /path-to-installer
[11:23] <Mustard5> ghb, type 'info chmod' to get more help
[11:23] <ghb> Mustard5, I'll do that.
[11:23] <propagandhi> some .sh files also need to have chmod +x but most dont
[11:23] <ghb> propagandhi, Even if it's on a cd?
[11:23] <propagandhi> ghb: no you need to copy to a folder
[11:23] <ghb> propagandhi, ok
[11:24] <felipe_> Hello, is there a debian package of MONO 1.1??
[11:24] <oO_will_Oo> ghb: does the installer run at all
[11:24] <propagandhi> cd's being read only and all
[11:24] <Mustard5> yeah..follow propagandhi :)
[11:24] <Mustard5> I'll butt out :D
[11:24] <ghb> propagandhi, righto.
[11:24] <Jowi> felipe_: no idea about the exact version...
[11:24] <Jowi> !info mono
[11:24] <ubotu> mono: (The Mono .NET development environment), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.0.5-1 (hoary), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[11:24] <propagandhi> sorry Mustard5, i didnt mean to push over the top
[11:24] <Mustard5> np :D
[11:24] <grndslm> sooo....why is it that gdm won't work for me properly (just keeps going to human theme) after I just dist-upgraded to breezy?
[11:25] <felipe_> Jowi, thanks
[11:25] <Jowi> np
[11:25] <felipe_> i'll go with the standar intaller..
[11:25] <marz> If I am trying to mount a cue image file, how do I know where to mount it? (when I try /mnt/cdrom it says it doesn't exist)
[11:25] <felipe_> How can I see with gtk ver I have?
[11:26] <P229> kacike: stay in the channel, please
[11:26] <Mustard5> put -v option on the end ?
[11:26] <scribbles> is the Startup Command for gDesklets just "gDesklets"?
[11:26] <tahorg> marz: you need to make an iso first
[11:26] <marz> tahorg: I have downloaded a Linux game, I have the *.cue and *.bin files, I need to create something else too?
[11:26] <felipe_> !info java
[11:26] <tahorg> marz: apt-get install bchunk
[11:26] <ghb> propagandhi: Wow... I really don't hope it takes as long as Ubuntu estimates it too -- an hour. 0.o'
[11:26] <oO_will_Oo> scribbles: type 'gDesklets' in the console  to find out
[11:27] <os2mac> who ever gave me that tip thank you.....
[11:27] <marz> tahorg: thanks, I'll try that
[11:27] <grndslm> sooo....why is it that gdm won't work for me properly (just keeps going to human theme) after I just dist-upgraded to breezy?
[11:27] <felipe_> !info Java
[11:27] <erisco> how the hell do i register?
[11:27] <tahorg> marz: with bchunk, you transform you bin/cue -> iso
[11:27] <Jowi> !java
[11:27] <ubotu> methinks java is to install both 1.4 and Sun Java see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#java
[11:27] <felipe_> thanks
[11:27] <marz> tahorg: Oh ok, cool, thanks a lot
[11:27] <grndslm> erisco, type /msg nickserv register [password]
[11:27] <tahorg> marz: then mount -o loop -t iso9660 bla.iso /mnt/thing
[11:27] <propagandhi> ghb: some installers can take that long, to extract etc
[11:27] <scribbles> ah its gdesklets
[11:27] <Jowi> felipe_: use !info when queriying for a specific package. for general info use !subject
[11:28] <propagandhi> but it is a long time, how big is the matlab installer
[11:28] <Mustard5> !flash
[11:28] <ubotu> flash is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:28] <erisco> ah here we are
[11:28] <Belutz> :)
[11:28] <oO_Will_Oo-> arrgh
[11:28] <ompaul> jcurry, when you right click on that file type in the browser what does it offer as the way to deal with the file?
[11:28] <marz> tahorg: thanks a lot man, later
[11:28] <Will-> arrgh!
[11:29] <os2mac> clear
[11:29] <erisco> hello, i recently tried a couple new updates for firefox and it corrupted my shortcuts somehow. When I put firefox into my command line it boots fine, but my desktop shortcuts do not function properly. Both the new updates failed to updates so I am blaming them.
[11:29] <grndslm> can somebody help me fing out why after dist-upgrading gdm won't display anything other than the default human theme??
[11:30] <grndslm> *find
[11:30] <erisco> my question, what do I do to fix this?
[11:30] <ghb> propagandhi: Yeah, but this is just to copy the content of the CD to the harddrive. =(
[11:30] <hans0lo> erisco: try: update-menus
[11:30] <propagandhi> ghb:oh i see, it's not a DVD?
[11:30] <P229> grndslm: that sucks
[11:30] <grndslm> P229, thanks for the help
[11:31] <hans0lo> erisco: as your current user, not as root
[11:31] <P229> grndslm: are the other themes still installed/
[11:31] <grndslm> yup
[11:31] <ghb> propagandhi: the reader is a DVD-ROM, but the CD is just a regular one.
[11:31] <Jowi> erisco: all my shortcuts for firefox points to x-www-browser. so I just use that one instead. seems to work fine nomatter how many upgrades i do.
[11:31] <hans0lo> erisco: ok, thats as far as I can help then. I'm debian user. I'm in the wrong channel! hehe
[11:31] <Navatiu> hi all
[11:31] <cake-fork> why is there no nvidia.ko in linux-restriced-modules-2.6.12* ?
[11:31] <propagandhi> ghb: ok, well that sounds like a long time to copy the contents of a cd, but you never know
[11:31] <P229> grndslm: I've never run into that issue, but you might want to make sure the latest themes are installed. you might also try reinstalling the themes, in case the file permissions got mucked up somehow
[11:32] <ghb> propagandhi: Hm.. Oh well -- just have to wait and see...
[11:32] <Mustard5> gbh. must be a big game :)
[11:32] <grndslm> P229, i just reinstalled one, and it won't work...still says something about gdm not being configed properly
[11:32] <propagandhi> he he game
[11:32] <ghb> Mustard5: It's not a game. =)
[11:32] <Mustard5> ah k
[11:32] <floor_16> hey all, I'm wanting to add a new server to my synaptec that will extend ubuntu from just the universe and metaverse packages...anyone have a good link for doing this?
[11:32] <henryson> my bakcground is brown, and nautilus won't start
[11:32] <grndslm> P229, I guess I'll have to restart X to copy the error down
[11:32] <floor_16> er..synaptIc
[11:32] <jcurry> ompaul: it gives me the yellow "no plugin found" bar...
[11:33] <Mustard5> !backports
[11:33] <ubotu> Add "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted" to /etc/apt/sources.list.  More info @ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports
[11:33] <Mustard5> see that floor_16 ?
[11:33] <floor_16> mustard5: thanks :) will do
[11:33] <Mustard5> k ;)
[11:34] <ProN00b> is cedega == winex ?
[11:34] <nalioth> ProN00b: it's related, yes
[11:34] <ProN00b> how ?
[11:35] <henryson> Pronoob, cedega is "built" on winex, which started out from wine
[11:35] <ProN00b> ok, so why do people still use wine and not winex
[11:36] <Mustard5> wine is free?
[11:36] <ProN00b> and winex is ?
[11:36] <Navatiu> ii wonder
[11:36] <Mustard5> not?
[11:36] <Mustard5> I'm not sure :D
[11:36] <Mustard5> I know cedega costs money
[11:36] <Cashel> Are the breezy repositories down or did I break something?
[11:36] <henryson> wine is not prim. on 3d?
[11:37] <Mustard5> what do you mean by prim.?
[11:37] <propagandhi> http://torrentz.burn.myvnc.com:5454/
[11:37] <henryson> how do i start (eg reset) nautilus?
[11:38] <ProN00b> fucky bsd licenses
[11:38] <henryson> primerily, however it is spelled!
[11:38] <propagandhi> ProNOOb: ????
[11:38] <lorenzod> henryson: killall nautilus
[11:38] <ProN00b> i hope the wine developers are feeling the pain of dumbness, now transgaming is making all teh money with their code
[11:38] <lorenzod> ProN00b: What is your problem with the BSD license?
[11:39] <ProN00b> they suck
[11:39] <ProN00b> they allow stuff like cedega and osx
[11:39] <lorenzod> ProN00b: I'm sure they had their reasons for choosing the license they did.
[11:39] <ProN00b> big companys making money out of open source giving only back if they fell like it
[11:40] <ompaul> jcurry, the obvious is always harder
[11:40] <lorenzod> ProN00b: well, it's a matter of freedom.
[11:40] <Ninjew> Does anybody use the evdev x.org driver?
[11:40] <propagandhi> ProNOOb: even if products based on open source go commercial, theres plenty of benefits for the open source community at large
[11:40] <os2mac> whoot....
[11:40] <Mustard5> whats with the nickname Ninjew ?
[11:41] <Mustard5> you could try a nick that is less..ummm..controversial :)
[11:41] <nalioth> licensing issues in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:41] <ompaul> jcurry, got it
[11:42] <kennethlove> Mustard5: what if s/he's jewish?
[11:42] <Ninjew> Mustard5: I don't see how it is in any way controversial
[11:42] <nalioth> Mustard5: your mick is er pungent in nature, as well
[11:42] <Ninjew> Mustard5: p.s. I am jewish
[11:43] <Mustard5> :)
[11:43] <propagandhi> it seems to always be okay if someone is racist against themeselves
[11:43] <larsrohdin> If I would get the CVS version of cedega to work, could I play the same games as with the subscription version?
[11:43] <henryson> thanks lorenzod... kind of funny, to type killall nautilus and suddenly nautilus starts ... :P
[11:43] <propagandhi> larsrohdin: you wont be able to use the point2play service i believe
[11:44] <larsrohdin> propagandhi, and what is that?
[11:44] <propagandhi> but you can get a deb package of cedega free anyhow
[11:44] <lorenzod> henryson, nautilus restarts itself by default.
[11:44] <larsrohdin> propagandhi, is that easier than the cvs version?
[11:44] <propagandhi> i have cedega installed and i can execute it but point2play asks for a username and password for the transgaming service i think
[11:44] <lorenzod> But it is funny, in a reincarnation kinda way.
[11:44] <propagandhi> larsrohdin: its much easier to get installed yes
[11:45] <phasegen> Why can't you use point2play?
[11:45] <larsrohdin> where can I get my hands on that?
[11:45] <propagandhi> phasegen: i dont know why, it keeps asking me to enter the transgaming account password or whatever, so i just use cedega on its own
[11:45] <propagandhi> larrohdin: http://torrentz.burn.myvnc.com:5454/
[11:45] <ReleaseX> i'm trying to install smeg and it says i have unmet dependencies, python-xdg (>=.14) but 0.9.1 is to be installed
[11:46] <phasegen> did you have a transgamer accout?
[11:46] <propagandhi> nope
[11:46] <phasegen> that's why...
[11:46] <propagandhi> thats what i was saying
[11:46] <phasegen> $54 american a year
[11:46] <larsrohdin> propagandhi, but what exactly is point2play? what can I do with/without it?
[11:46] <seethru> propagandhi: you pirate you!
[11:47] <ompaul> jcurry, what you need to do is find a .wav file and try to open it in your browser, it should then offer you a list of exiting tools or to down load the file :) so you can choose whatever player you want
[11:47] <seethru> phasegen: IMO it should be free, only reason I paid is because I NEED cedega...once Wine is caught up they won't be getting money from me anymore
[11:47] <Mustard5> I should have been watching ompaul and jcurry...hehe I havent set sound up in my browser yet either
[11:48] <propagandhi> larsrohdin: you can still run cedega and get it to attempt to install games, such as from a cd or downloaded installer. No guarantees it'll always work. Theres a list of games available that work okay etc to be found on the transgaming site i believe
[11:48] <ompaul> Mustard5, there was nothing else that was the clue
[11:48] <propagandhi> and there might be somegames on the link i sent you, but thats just speculation ;)
[11:48] <larsrohdin> propagandhi, the webpage you showed, I don't find it
[11:48] <Mustard5> I couldn't even find the 'plugin' part in my preferences in the advanced tab
[11:48] <jcurry> ompaul: thanks!
[11:48] <seethru> larsrohdin: http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Category:Working
[11:48] <propagandhi> http://torrentz.burn.myvnc.com:5454/torrents.php
[11:48] <jcurry> Mustard5 :)
[11:48] <ompaul> jcurry, np
[11:49] <propagandhi> i'm on the site now
[11:49] <toran> how can I add WMA support to juk and/or other audio players?
[11:49] <propagandhi> you can also get there by just typing tuxwarez in firefox and it will resolve
[11:50] <Mustard5> hey jcurry, you can write the HOW-TO for me in the forums hey?  ehheheheh...just kidding :D
[11:50] <Dreamglider> ok i have installed Ubuntu 5.10 but when i bootupi get a "Error 12" i never get a boot loader up!
[11:50] <GDorn> okay, why doesn't alsa work?
[11:51] <propagandhi> Dreamglider: heres a really helpful description of error 12 as seen on the gentoo documentation ---
[11:51] <propagandhi> his error is returned if the device strings syntax is correct but other than that, an error occurred that isn't defined by any other error.
[11:52] <propagandhi> *this
[11:52] <seethru> lol
[11:52] <seethru> Dreamglider: silly question, but you installed grub?
[11:52] <Dreamglider> i have Fedora Core 4 and WindowsXP Pro on Primary Master and Ubuntu on Primary slave
[11:52] <ReleaseX> i'm trying to install smeg and it says i have unmet dependencies, python-xdg (>=.14) but 0.9.1 is to be installed
[11:52] <propagandhi> Dreamglider: and you installed ubuntu last
[11:52] <larsrohdin> propagandhi, ok im downloading cedega_4.4.1-1_i386.deb... what then? sudo dpkg -i package?
[11:52] <Dreamglider> propagandhi, yes
[11:53] <seethru> lars: yes
[11:53] <propagandhi> larsrohdin: thats correct
[11:53] <ngmlinux_> how can I change my boot loader menu?
[11:53] <propagandhi> Dreamglider: did you choose to install the boot loader
[11:53] <ngmlinux_> Windows disappeared
[11:53] <ngmlinux_> yes
[11:53] <Dreamglider> propagandhi, yes i did
[11:53] <ngmlinux_> everything was great until the kernel updated itself
[11:53] <propagandhi> ngmlinux_: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:53] <larsrohdin> ok thanks... because I tried that cvs version once and almost died trying=)
[11:53] <ompaul> !tell ngmlinux_ about grub
[11:53] <seethru> Dream: but you can get into windows and fc?
[11:53] <propagandhi> larsrohdin: no prblems
[11:53] <jcurry> is there something i can spt-get so that firefox print normally, instead of giving me the postscript interpreter message?
[11:54] <GDorn> strike that.  now I have no sound at all.
[11:54] <ghb> How do I change the read speed on the DVD-ROM?
[11:54] <tristanmike> ReleaseX, you need to download the newer version of python-xdg
[11:54] <steve_> Hello friends, I messed around with my /etc/inittab and now X doesn't start by default.  Can someone PM me the readout of their inittab (preferably unmoded) so I can find and add the lines I removed.
[11:55] <propagandhi> ghb: is DMA enabled on the drive
[11:55] <Pickle_Weasel> i get this error when trying to install something in synaptic: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:55] <larsrohdin> propagandhi, It would be so sweet to be able to play at least some games in linux. but do I have to install them on my linux partitions or can I run from windows? with ntfs?
[11:55] <ghb> propagandhi: Dunno... I suppose so.
[11:55] <Blissex> Pickle_Weasel: you got to run it as 'root'
[11:55] <seethru> larsrohdin: best to install them either on a linux or FAT partition
[11:55] <Pickle_Weasel> well, i am in synaptic, so i'm obviously root
[11:55] <larsrohdin> seethru, thats what i thought...
[11:55] <Pickle_Weasel> unless, nvm, i think i know what the problem is
[11:55] <Seveas> steve_, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2769
[11:55] <propagandhi> ghb: hdparm /dev/hdX where X is the drive letter
[11:56] <basti__> Could anyone tell me why shift+backspace restarts my X and how I could remove this silly shortcut?
[11:56] <ompaul> steve_,  http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2770
[11:56] <Pickle_Weasel> i have someone ssh'ing to me, and they might have done a root command after i ran synaptic
[11:56] <WhiteRabbit> anyone use cedega?
[11:56] <Seveas> ompaul, beat ya :p
[11:56] <propagandhi> basti__: it is a useful shortcut sometimes hey
[11:56] <propagandhi> WhiteRabbit: yes i do
[11:56] <basti__> propagandhi, but its supposed to be trcl+alt+backspace !!!
[11:56] <ompaul> :)
[11:56] <propagandhi> ohh yeah true
[11:56] <steve_> Seveas & ompaul, that yous kindly.
[11:56] <steve_> That's exactly what I needed.
[11:56] <ghb> propagandhi: Nope, it isn't.
[11:56] <basti__> so u got any clue?
[11:57] <ghb> propagandhi: It's running over PIO now.
[11:57] <ReleaseX> tristanmike, how can i do that with apt
[11:57] <propagandhi> ghb: you could try enabling DMA
[11:57] <ghb> propagandhi: How do I do that?
[11:57] <Dreamglider> seetruh: i booted with UBCD and started WinPX with no problem
[11:57] <ghb> propagandhi: I don't think there's any settings for that in the BIOS.
[11:57] <GDorn> okay.  sound under ubuntu is really beginning to tick me off.
[11:57] <kangpeh> how do you change the system color...
[11:57] <kangpeh> from brown to like... black for instance
[11:58] <Dreamglider> Ultimate Boot DC nice thing to have at hand
[11:58] <kangpeh> like i changed the colors of my own username
[11:58] <Dreamglider> CD
[11:58] <kangpeh> but when im at the gdmlogin for instance
[11:58] <kangpeh> the color is brown
[11:58] <ghb> Dreamglider: UBCD is the savor. =)
[11:58] <tristanmike> ReleaseX, I don't think you can, just download and install http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/python-xdg_0.14-0ubuntu1~5.04ubp1_all.deb
[11:58] <propagandhi> ghb: you can enable it from the command line - trying to remember the command - anyone quick help -
[11:58] <Dreamglider> it s ince indeed yes but one must use causion with it tho trust me ;)
[11:59] <ghb> propagandhi: Well, considering that the installation of Ubuntu when pretty fast, I assume that DMA on the DVD-ROM is enabled by BIOS.
[11:59] <seethru> Dreamglider: hmmm, what bootloader did you have running before?
[11:59] <steve_> I haven't used the new version of Gnome that's comin' with Breezy but does anybody know if it allows additions of shortcuts to its applications menu?
[11:59] <kikidonk> is this a good place to ask for an advice on installing ubuntu colony ?
[11:59] <Dreamglider> seethru, grub
[11:59] <seethru> steve_: you can add them in 2.10 with smeg