[08:50] <pp7> theadmin, what u mean alternative new tab pages?
[08:50] <theadmin> pp7: That happens on chrome://newtab, right?
[08:50] <osmosis> need to know how to resize windows in realtime without the grey (orange) shadow frame, and how to move the unity launcher to the bottom of my screen.
[08:50] <pp7> theadmin, hmm no
[08:51] <theadmin> pp7: Oh, then it happens on any page?
[08:51] <pp7> theadmin, but i can't really reproduce it at will
[08:51] <theadmin> pp7: I see... Meh, then I suggest going to #chromium-support, doesn't really sound like an Ubuntu issue unless... you say it only happens in Unity?
[08:51] <pp7> theadmin, usually happens when a page causes another tab to open
[08:52] <pp7> theadmin, yea never happened to be before in previous ubuntu versions
[08:52] <theadmin> pp7: I see, could you install some other lightweight DE and try there? I don't see the real need to keep using Unity
[08:52] <theadmin> pp7: I suggest xfce
[08:53] <pp7> theadmin, i prefer unity
[08:53] <theadmin> pp7: mmmok, does it work in unity2d?
[08:53] <pp7> dunno
[08:54] <pp7> wouldn't use unity2d anyway
[08:54] <theadmin> pp7: Either way, do "ubuntu-bug unity" and report it. Nothing we can really do to help
[08:54] <theadmin> That's a problem to feed to the developers
[08:54] <theadmin> I personally think Unity is good but not really ready to be given to general public yet... Too much of a work-in-progress state on it, imo
[08:55] <grubbyone> how do I change my boot options on a liveUSB?
[08:56] <theadmin> grubbyone: You can't really change anything on a liveUSB, any changes are wiped after reboot/shutdown. If you mean to change them for a single boot, then you have to hold Left Shift while GRUB is loading, then edit the kernel line like usual
[08:56] <grubbyone> even with persistence?
[08:56] <theadmin> grubbyone: Ah if you have persistence then you can change them the normal way (edit /etc/default/grub and then run sudo update-grub)
[08:57] <theadmin> grubbyone: Should have said that first, details are important :D
[08:57] <grubbyone> nice, didn't know where to find that
[08:57] <grubbyone> thanks
[08:57] <theadmin> grubbyone: np
[08:58] <theadmin> grubbyone: Hint: the line you're looking for is GRUB_CMDLINE_DEFAULT
[08:58] <lightpriest> hey, I'm trying to make wifi working on my laptop (broadcom chip) but it's acting weird. It's like the module is not even loaded
[08:59] <grubbyone> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT?
[08:59] <theadmin> grubbyone: Oh, yeah, that, sorry
[08:59] <theadmin> grubbyone: I'm not used to Ubuntu's style of grub config handling honestly
[08:59] <totesmuhgoats> lightpriest: do you need help loading the module?
[09:00] <grubbyone> yeah unfortunately I still have no idea what I'm doing, long night of reading aheard
[09:00] <grubbyone> ahead
[09:00] <lightpriest> totesmuhgoats, I actually don't know what I need help with. The module is loaded, but NetworkManager doesn't even see any wireless cards
[09:01] <theadmin> lightpriest: Can you run "iwlist wlan0 scan" and see if that returns anything?
[09:02] <totesmuhgoats> ah, i don't know much about wireless
[09:02] <beppe80> hello
[09:02] <lightpriest> theadmin, iwconfig doesn't show any wireless extensions. this is the weird part. it's like wifi card doesn't exist (although lspci shows it)
[09:02] <beppe80> I installed konqueror in Ubuntu 11.10: you can have it in Italian?
[09:03] <theadmin> lightpriest: Meh sounds like you needzit to load the module, that's the only reason I can think of for it not appearing
[09:04] <lightpriest> theadmin, the module is loaded (broadcom-wl/wl)
[09:04] <lightpriest> theadmin, is there a way to load modules with debug (verbose) mode?
[09:04] <theadmin> lightpriest: Ah wl... It has a strange bug -- it creates wireless interfaces as eth*, which makes networkmanager all confused. Can you "iwlist eth1 scan"?
[09:05] <lightpriest> theadmin, all I have is lo and eth0 (which is really eth)
[09:05] <theadmin> lightpriest: I see then, hm.
[09:05] <ntr0py> Can i somehow disable/alter subpixel rendering in firefox 10? I have a BGR (not RGB) screen and fonts look very ugly.
[09:05] <lightpriest> theadmin, I'm gonna try brcm80211 (not the wl ones)
[09:06] <pk__> sometime back i set the grub screen time to 0 ..Now my comuter wont show grub screen..i have forgotton the password and now i am trying to reset the password through single user mode but dont know how to boot it in single user mode without having the grub screen..please hrlp
[09:06] <theadmin> lightpriest: Can you do the following?: sudo rmmod b43 && sudo rmmod ssb && sudo rmmod wl && sudo modprobe wl
[09:06] <osmosis> how do set ubuntu to resize the windows immediately instead of only resizing an outline
[09:06] <theadmin> lightpriest: b43 and ssb conflict with wl sometimes
[09:06] <osmosis> how do I move the app launcher to the bottom of my screen!?
[09:06] <theadmin> osmosis: ccsm can do the second one and likely the first one too
[09:07] <lightpriest> theadmin, all these (b43, ssb, etc.) are blacklisted and not loaded
[09:07] <lightpriest> theadmin, I'll try the other OS driver
[09:08] <theadmin> lightpriest: Ok... well, you may need to also modprobe lib80211 in case it doesn't automatically load when wl does
[09:08] <arunkumar413> hi, i want to install android on my ubuntu 11.10. I've downloaded the android sdk and installed the sdk. Now i want to configure both of these to start developing android apps. Please help me how to configure
[09:09] <makara> theadmin: its a linksys E3000 with DD-WRT. I don't see any setting for 'attached devices'
[09:09] <arunkumar413> sorry. * installed the eclipse
[09:09] <theadmin> makara: dd-wrt? I haz that too, just a sec, I'll look where it was. I'm *sure* it has that
[09:11] <theadmin> makara: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/Status_Lan.asp - here you can find a list of all currently connected clients, you can probably figure out which is what
[09:11] <osmosis> theadmin, good enough
[09:12] <ntr0py> Can i somehow use the system-cairo library with firefox?
[09:18] <ryankey> ntr0py, All I can find is to open firefox from the command line with --enable-cairo
[09:18] <ryankey> Maybe that helps?
[09:19] <almoxarife> !info googlizer
[09:20] <cJether> hello everybody
[09:21] <ryankey> Hello
[09:21] <cJether> I am a beijing man
[09:22] <cJether> I am seeing the film The Social Network
[09:22] <cJether> It's wonderful
[09:22] <ntr0py> ryankey: Thanks, i also tried --enable-system-cairo, but unfortunately FF seems to be the only app which would not respect the gnome systemwide settings for font smoothing, so its unusable for me atm and i am forced to use chrome...
[09:22] <cJether> chrome is good , i think
[09:23] <llutz> +suuport+ cJether
[09:23] <llutz> cJether: this is support-chan, pls join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:23]  * almoxarife has been forced to use chromium now for years
[09:24] <ntr0py> cJether: it is, but for some scenarios the good old standard ff is still better
[09:24] <almoxarife> cJether: or for real fun join ##politics
[09:25] <ntr0py> chrome has massive problems with flash for example
[09:25] <almoxarife> ntr0py: not so
[09:25] <crizzy> like what problems?
[09:25] <almoxarife> ntr0py: i would go so far as to say, 'not at all'
[09:26] <cJether> Ask a simple question
[09:26] <cJether> Which IRC Software do you use
[09:26] <the^user> helther skelter ircsoftware
[09:26] <cJether> pardon?
[09:27] <ntr0py> it uses native gtk windows for flash, sometimes i have to reload 3 times to get youtube running and context menu would not me usable aside scrolling inside flash dont propagate to chromium
[09:27] <almoxarife> cJether: quassel here, but the options are enormous
[09:27] <the^user> aanvaard
[09:27] <ntr0py> none of these problems arise in ff
[09:27] <cJether> sorry i'm chinese but i cannot follow you
[09:28] <__Alex_> Flash works great in Iceweasel, i report
[09:28] <scientes> how do i install ubuntu arm in qemu-arm ?
[09:28] <cJether> don't know
[09:28] <scientes> i.e. where is the approiate cd image?
[09:28] <ntr0py> i just want my ff usable
[09:28] <cJether> which gui do you like better,gnome or kde?
[09:28] <scientes> instead of these board-specific tar.gzs
[09:28] <almoxarife> cJether: dont answer questions with a 'dont know'
[09:29] <cJether> sorry
[09:29] <__Alex_> scientes: Metalx1000 made a Video tutorial to install debian on qemu-arm, but ubuntu should be the same
[09:29] <almoxarife> ntr0py: i have found chromium to be that usable FF we cant speak of
[09:29] <__Alex_> scientes: There is no CD image, you have to load the kernel and the Initrd
[09:30] <scientes> __Alex_, ok, i know how to do that
[09:30] <scientes> where is the ubuntu installer download?
[09:30] <scientes> in fact, i've done that before, a few years ago
[09:31] <ntr0py> almoxarife, i DO use chromium most of the time, but on flash sites its just too buggy for me, so i would like ff (which runs fine except for the ugly fonts) to be usable as well.
[09:31] <__Alex_> scientes: People at #ubuntu-arm sould help you
[09:32] <almoxarife> ntr0py: that FF sounds buggy
[09:33] <almoxarife> ntr0py: ok, is the font issue specific to FF only?
[09:33] <shovell> a few years ago i had used a remote admin progrem and it had *box or something like that for a name
[09:35] <almoxarife> ntr0py: would you humor me and pass me the link to a site where the 'flash' is buggy in chrome/ium?
[09:36] <almoxarife> shovell: virtual(box)?
[09:36] <cJether> tokyo?
[09:36] <cJether> Oracle Virtual Box?
[09:36] <shovell> hmm no i am thinking it was ebox
[09:36] <cJether> what's ebox
[09:36] <almoxarife> cJether: yes
[09:37] <cJether> I have used Virtual Box, Virtual PC, and VmWare
[09:37] <cJether> All of Three Virtual Machines.
[09:37] <ntr0py> almoxarife: yes its only ff which seems to be bundled with its own (buggy) version of cairo, and youtube.com has the problems with flash in chromium
[09:38] <__Alex_> cJether: You forgot qEmu
[09:38] <cJether> qEmu
[09:38] <ciao> hi
[09:38] <cJether> what's thar
[09:38] <cJether> that
[09:38] <__Alex_> Emulator
[09:38] <__Alex_> Virtual Machine
[09:39] <ciao> emulator
[09:39] <__Alex_> The one Virtualbox is based on
[09:39] <cJether> whole name of qemu?
[09:39] <rrs> My pbuilder doesn't seem to be honoring the APTCACHE value. Anyone can help?
[09:39] <overclucker> !info qemu
[09:39] <cJether> !info qemu
[09:41] <overclucker> strange, i thought qemu-kvm was the package name for kqemu
[09:41] <cJether> oh
[09:41] <cJether> i am trying qemu
[09:41] <almoxarife> rrs: tried asking the #apache guys/gals?
[09:42] <cJether> qemu for windows?
[09:42] <almoxarife> !info windows
[09:42] <almoxarife> cJether: nope, wont work in ubuntu
[09:43] <overclucker> qemu can be a bit slow. if your cpu supports kvm it's worth getting the qemu-kvm package, and running qemu with --enable-kvm
[09:43] <cJether> can i use qemu in windows?
[09:43] <iceroot> i have to shells open, both have LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, in the first shell i type "LANG=us_US.UTF-8" then i closed this shell, the second shell is giving "echo $LANG with de_DE.UTF-8" but now the programs there use english. i dont get why this second shell (never saw the us.US.UTF-8" is now using english
[09:43] <__Alex_> cJether: http://homepage3.nifty.com/takeda-toshiya/
[09:44] <__Alex_> Wait no, wrong link
[09:44] <iceroot> sorry wrong channel, should be go to #bash
[09:44] <overclucker> notsure how well vista7 does on it
[09:44] <__Alex_> http://homepage3.nifty.com/takeda-toshiya/qemu/qemu-0.13.0-windows.zip
[09:44] <scarleo> Is there a way to have Nautilus NOT shut down whenever I close a remote connection? I want it to fall back to home folder
[09:45] <cJether> is it a video game
[09:45] <cJether> wo.........
[09:45] <almoxarife> scarleo: you started nautilus in a ssh session?
[09:46] <imgx64> I reported a bug in Banshee two months ago (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=665356 ), but no one has responded. Can someone please confirm it or at least give me a workaround for the problem?
[09:46] <scarleo> almoxarife, no, but I have a ssh connection open, displaying the folders and then unmounting that ssh and nautilus closes
[09:47] <scarleo> almoxarife, I expect it to fall back to something, not close
[09:47] <almoxarife> scarleo: nautilus is opened within the ssh session? otherwise why would it close?
[09:49] <theadmin> almoxarife: (s)he's using an sftp:// connection from Nautilus, which makes a pseudo-"device" appear in the left bar. If you unmount that device with the folder being currently open, nautilus will close itself
[09:49] <theadmin> (which is a sane behaviour, in my opinion)
[09:50] <scarleo> theadmin, sane? :) I still need nautilus, just not the ssh/sftp session
[09:50] <scarleo> it's annoying
[09:50] <imgx64> I find Nautilus inconsistent about that. When I unmount/eject a drive I'm currenlty in, it sometimes goes to the home folder and sometimes closes.
[09:50] <theadmin> scarleo: Yeah, well, uh... Click "Home" in the left bar *before* unmounting?
[09:51] <almoxarife> scarleo: never mind, one way to keep nautilus from closing yet being able to access remote via sftp is to install 'gigolo' and set it up to keep the session open and avail to navigate at .gvfs, worked for me
[09:51] <scarleo> theadmin, like imgx64 says, it behaves different different times. Sometimes it even closes when I'm in home and closes a ssh session
[09:51] <scarleo> and sometimes it falls back to home when I'm displaying the ssh session
[09:52] <theadmin> scarleo: Huh... Well, I don't use nautilus myself so I dunno. Weird behaviour indeed
[09:52] <almoxarife> scarleo: purge nautilus and re-install, freshen it up
[09:53] <scarleo> almoxarife, yeah, I'll try that
[09:53] <almoxarife> scarleo: and look at your syslog for anything obvious
[09:54] <cJether> i have downloaded qemu
[09:54] <ciao> !lista
[09:54] <cJether> but i don't know how to use
[09:54] <scarleo> almoxarife, gonna try it in my 12.04 install if it's the same there, thanks
[09:54] <cJether> is there a manual in chinese
[09:54] <paolo> ciao
[09:55] <almoxarife> scarleo: the issues may also be related to 12.04
[09:55] <scarleo> almoxarife, I'm not in 12.04 now, I have it on another partition
[09:55] <almoxarife> cJether: cant read chinese, would not know
[09:56] <overclucker> cJether: qemu configures everything from the command line
[09:58] <theadmin> cJether: Might want to try virtualbox, it has a much more obvious interface
[10:00] <almoxarife> cJether: did you know that your ident(a link) comes up as a source of malware according to google?? yeah i looked, and you have lost your luster
[10:02] <cJether> qemu is hard for me
[10:04] <quietone> can anyone show how to file a bug report, about wiki.ubuntu.com? the help refers to apport, which I don't have as I don't use ubuntu anymore
[10:05] <SteM> Hi, i've upgrated to 11.10 and i've lost the bookmarks on Firefox, any idea?
[10:05] <theadmin> quietone: Add it manually to the Ubuntu project on LP
[10:05] <cJether> my qemu is for windows
[10:06] <quietone> theadmin, please provide a link, I am just going in circles
[10:07] <theadmin> quietone: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[10:09] <quietone> theadmin, thx. But I still don't see what to do.
[10:09] <theadmin> quietone: There is a "report a bug" on the right
[10:10] <lujo> 落日的余辉
[10:10] <quietone> theadmin, yes, it sends me to a help page that is designed for ubuntu users
[10:10] <theadmin> quietone: Just a second, please
[10:11] <theadmin> quietone: bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/PACKAGENAME/+filebug?no-redirect -- use a URL like that
[10:12] <rrs> almoxarife: What does it have to do with apache?
[10:13] <SilentDrgn> What do you all think of the System76 laptops?
[10:13] <bazhang> SilentDrgn, they come with ubuntu
[10:13] <quietone> theadmin, tried that too. what would be the packagename for wiki.ubuntu.com?
[10:13] <ajah> i recently updated my ubuntu when i move the cursor it prompts me back to log in screen
[10:13] <SilentDrgn> I figured that part out.
[10:13] <theadmin> quietone: Err... A bug on the wiki? That doesn't really make sense actually
[10:14] <bazhang> SilentDrgn, need support? or just wish to chat
[10:14] <SilentDrgn> I am looking at an Asus and the System76 Pangolin
[10:14] <quietone> theadmin, yes the wiki has a bug. I receive notifications for a page that I am not subscribed to. I
[10:15] <SilentDrgn> Trying to decide which route I should go. I can save money on the Asus and I like the battery life and specs are pretty nice. Is the System76 that much better with his direct support of Ubuntu?
[10:15] <rere> hello
[10:15] <Gentoo64> SilentDrgn, theyre not special in terms of saving money
[10:15] <rere> Gentoo64: hey
[10:15] <Gentoo64> hi
[10:16] <quietone> theadmin, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=89178be0fadd9186e99d5477a5c91fae&t=1885785
[10:16] <SilentDrgn> Is Ubuntu pretty good with new laptops? Still new to Ubuntu.
[10:17] <theadmin> quietone: Report here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website
[10:17] <Gentoo64> SilentDrgn, it should be
[10:17] <Gentoo64> SilentDrgn, im not too up on laptops though
[10:17] <SilentDrgn> Battery life is a big deal for me. Getting 4+ with my current laptop. Like to get at least the same.
[10:17] <SilentDrgn> Its all good. Any info is great.
[10:19] <AndroUser2> Hi all
[10:20] <SteM> anyone had problems with the bookmark on Firefox on 11.10 ?
[10:21] <gundy> anyone know of a good channel to get brctl support?
[10:22] <gugurang> Anyone knows if Ubuntu has a support already for nVidia Optimus technology? I'm using Acer 4750G and when I activated both video cards (Intel & nVidia) my 11.04 would not switch properly
[10:23] <arunkumar413> any one know how to install android sdk on ubuntu
[10:23] <iceroot> gugurang: 12.04 should have it as it was introduced into linux-3.2
[10:24] <iceroot> !ops | CanolaOil (pm spam)
[10:24] <SteM> arunkumar413: you havo to download the Linux package from android site
[10:24] <gugurang> iceroot: thanks for the info...
[10:25] <CanolaOil> oh stop your fucking lying iceroot
[10:25] <iceroot> gugurang: its disabled in earlier versions because there is a memory-leak in the driver
[10:25] <iceroot> CanolaOil: thanks for making the kick easier
[10:25] <bazhang> CanolaOil, thats not acceptable here. please stop now
[10:25] <CanolaOil> what isn't acceptable?
[10:25] <CanolaOil> that iceroot is lying through his teeth?
[10:25] <bazhang> CanolaOil, number one, your language
[10:25] <arunkumar413> SteM: i downloaded the sdk and installed the eclipse. but i'm getting an error while installing adt plugin
[10:26] <theadmin> CanolaOil: iceroot is a well-known and respected helper here, unlike you who I see for the first time. Who are we supposed to beleive more?
[10:26] <SteM> arunkumar413: which error?
[10:26] <SteM> arunkumar413: which eclipse?
[10:26] <CanolaOil> he is my exboyfriend with a vendetta
[10:26] <varikonniemi> hello, i am wondering why disk utility says my second hard drive is not big enough to expand my raid array, when it is exactly to the byte same size as my first hard disk?
[10:26] <almoxarife> oh dear
[10:27] <iceroot> theadmin: bazhang thx
[10:27] <zsolt> hi there!got a dns problem.i can test with host,dig,nslookup www.domain but if try to ping returns unknown host
[10:27] <bazhang> CanolaOil, thats the last warning. stay on topic
[10:27] <zsolt> seems that bind9 configured well
[10:28] <iceroot> bazhang: just do it (dont want to paste the whole pm here) also i cant message you
[10:28] <almoxarife> i cant see what it is that this CanolaOil did on channel, ????, just me?
[10:28] <almoxarife> prior to the mouthing
[10:29] <iceroot> bazhang: almoxarife http://pastebin.com/FjsvtnCL
[10:30] <almoxarife> iceroot: that a private conversation?
[10:30] <iceroot> almoxarife: yes
[10:30] <llutz> iceroot: i'd suggest http://scripts.irssi.org/html/whitelist.pl.html
[10:30] <iceroot> almoxarife: pm spam
[10:30] <CanolaOil> no
[10:31] <CanolaOil> was a conversation about our relationship
[10:31] <almoxarife> iceroot: may i suggest the ignore function?
[10:31] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[10:31] <iceroot> almoxarife: i prefer /kick over /ignore
[10:31] <theadmin> zsolt: Certain domains may block pings
[10:31] <theadmin> iceroot: /kick doesn't stop a person from pming you actually.
[10:31] <iceroot> llutz: i dont think its a good idea because i am also using icq over irc/irssi
[10:32] <llutz> theadmin: those won't returen " unknown host"
[10:32] <iceroot> theadmin: but protection others here
[10:32] <varikonniemi> lol, i did sudo mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/sda and it worked
[10:32] <varikonniemi> so something in disk utility is broken
[10:32] <zsolt> looks like the dns resolution not works outside my virtual machine
[10:33] <almoxarife> iceroot: i would suggest you use a filter akin to pidgins allow pm, if not on the list no pm-chat, cause otherwise every loon in the world will be wanting a chat
[10:34] <iceroot> almoxarife: i will have a look at that topic
[10:34] <alejandro> One question, what are the options in fstab for a SSD?
[10:35] <almoxarife> iceroot: i have yet to figure out the same filter option in quassel, too bad for so far
[10:35] <llutz> alejandro: "discard" but be warned, if you delete something you definetly won't get it back
[10:35] <zsolt> any suggestions?this is a strange problem,and can't use mail system,because dns resolution not works
[10:35] <iceroot> zsolt: what does your dns-setup looks like?
[10:36] <iceroot> zsolt: local dns server?
[10:36] <zsolt> yes
[10:36] <iceroot> zsolt: you are hosting a own domain just with your dns?
[10:36] <iceroot> zsolt: and want to send public mails with that?
[10:36] <zsolt> it is a local network
[10:37] <iceroot> zsolt: please give as a short and usefull overview about your setup
[10:37] <zsolt> dns IN A <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:38] <zsolt> mail IN A <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:39] <zsolt> test. IN MX 10 mail.test.local
[10:39] <Stava> how does mini carrots work?
[10:39] <bazhang> Stava, pardon?
[10:39] <Stava> baby carrots
[10:39] <zsolt> everything is fine inside,but if i try to use it outside my vm there are errors like host not found
[10:40] <Stava> how do they work
[10:40] <bazhang> Stava, what does that have to do with ubuntu support
[10:40] <theadmin> Stava: Same way as magnets. Nothing to discuss in #ubuntu though
[10:40] <Peace> ss
[10:40] <Stava> bazhang: apparently im in the wrong channel
[10:42] <Gabi> everytime i try to do something in terminal like : ./install or anything else it says : bash: ./install: command not found
[10:42] <Gabi> how can i fix it
[10:42] <iceroot> Gabi: you cant fix it
[10:42] <theadmin> Gabi: Is "install" marked executable? Is it really not a typo?
[10:42] <iceroot> Gabi: ./install means to execute a file called install
[10:42] <quietone> theadmin, thanks I had a go. When I clicked 'submit' I got a new page "Not allowed here. you don't have permission...." So, I am not sure it worked.
[10:42] <Gabi> yes guys , i cannot execute
[10:42] <iceroot> Gabi: ah yes check if it is executable (or if the file exists)
[10:43] <iceroot> Gabi: chmod +x install
[10:44] <Gabi> same
[10:44] <Gabi> the file exits and is executable i think my ubuntu is messedup
[10:44] <llutz> Gabi: "ls -l install"
[10:44] <bazhang> Gabi, install what exactly
[10:44] <bazhang> Gabi, and how often have you been going outside package management
[10:46] <theadmin> Gabi: I would like to point out that "install", "Install", "InStAlL" and "INSTALL" are all *different* names. Linux is case-sensetive. You understand that?
[10:46] <chroot> hi, how to uninstall nautilus in ubuntu 11.10?
[10:46] <theadmin> chroot: err should come preinstalled
[10:46] <theadmin> chroot: But if you removed it, then just apt-get install nautilus like usual
[10:47] <chroot> theadmin, my  file manager dosen't work well, so i want to remove it and better be clean?
[10:47] <chroot> can you do this ?
[10:47] <chroot> install dosen't work.
[10:47] <theadmin> chroot: wut? That didn't make any sense
[10:48] <Gabi> bazhang i didnt too often
[10:48] <Gabi> 2.6.26-2-686
[10:48] <Gabi> how can i update ?
[10:48] <bazhang> Gabi, and install what exactly? whats your version of ubuntu as well
[10:48] <chroot> what, everytime when i open the file manager, the nautilus consume %100 cpu , it is really sick.
[10:48] <Gabi> Ubuntu 10.04.3
[10:48] <chroot> so i want to uninstall nautilus.
[10:49] <Gabi>  LTS \n \l
[10:49] <theadmin> chroot: Well try to install another file manager then. Some suggestions are spacefm, thunar, pcmanfm, mc
[10:49] <theadmin> chroot: sudo apt-get install your_prefered_filemanager && sudo apt-get purge nautilus
[10:49] <bazhang> Gabi, and this instance, what are you trying to install
[10:50] <chroot> theadmin, and which file manager is better in your idea except the nautilus?
[10:50] <theadmin> chroot: I use thunar myself
[10:50] <chroot> and  is thunnar works well in ubuntu?
[10:50] <theadmin> chroot: Sure.
[10:51] <chroot> ok, i will install it.
[10:51] <chroot> and theadmin what kind of ubuntu are you using?
[10:52] <theadmin> chroot: I'm not an Ubuntu user at all, I use Arch.
[10:52] <Digital_Lemon> how can i change my timezone for one user only?
[10:52] <bazhang> Gabi, what are you trying to install in this instance
[10:52] <theadmin> Digital_Lemon: You can try setting the TZ environment variable on user login
[10:52] <chroot> theadmin,  i got a little confused about a question?
[10:52] <theadmin> chroot: Huh?
[10:53] <Digital_Lemon> where is that set...?
[10:53] <theadmin> Digital_Lemon: Anywhere you prefer, just make sure it gets processed on user login
[10:53] <chroot> i want  learn the Linux operating system, such as kernel, but ubuntu restrict people to do that.
[10:54] <theadmin> chroot: Oh do they? I guess you are correct, but if you don't like Ubuntu, why not switch?
[10:54] <chroot> this is the poblem
[10:55] <DragonSlay> why isn't truecrpt not added to package manger?
[10:55] <chroot> i dont know Arch is better than other
[10:55] <theadmin> DragonSlay: The license forbids it
[10:55] <chroot> theadmin, can you tell me what the advantages Arch have than other Linux ditro?
[10:56] <theadmin> chroot: Heh well, this channel is for Ubuntu support only. If you want to continue this discussion, you're gonna have to PM me
[10:56] <chroot> haha, yes, this is it1
[10:56] <chroot> i will google.
[10:56] <chroot> thanks anyway1
[10:58] <DragonSlay> theadmin: so thats not gpl then, but still open source
[10:58] <DragonSlay> what
[10:58] <theadmin> DragonSlay: Yeah I think they have some weird license of their own. The thing is, the only valid way of distributing TrueCrypt is via their website. That's for security reasons, since outdated versions might have critical bugs and such
[10:59] <DragonSlay> what's that line saying theadmin theborger,,,,,, ?
[11:00] <DragonSlay> did you post that theadmin?
[11:01] <quietone> I've submitted a bug report but it doesn't show up in the 'new' list. Is that normal?
[11:01] <iceroot> DragonSlay: theadmin its not added to the repos because of legal issues in some countries (imo)
[11:01] <Andy80> Hi
[11:01] <theadmin> iceroot: Ah
[11:01] <alejandro> fstab option, btrfs defaults, noatime, discard,ssd, right?
[11:02] <mudkip> irc.iz-smart.net
[11:04] <rrs> Any pbuilder experts that can help me with this problem: http://pastebin.com/vJPjGK2V ???
[11:04] <Guekko> asas
[11:07] <theadmin> rrs: We don't support Debian.
[11:07] <rrs> theadmin: This is on Ubuntu 12.04
[11:08] <theadmin> rrs: orly? Then why is your apt-get connecting to ftp.debian.org and seeks packages in sid/main?
[11:08] <theadmin> rrs: Actually, Ubuntu 12.04 is not supported here either... You need to go to #ubuntu+1 for that.
[11:08] <rrs> Okay!! Thanks.
[11:09] <biopyte> hi, this is rather unusal: is there a trick or ubuntu package that rotates output on a xterm? so,  instead from left to right, output is from bottom to top.
[11:10] <bonhoeffer> how do i get restart whatever ssh-add belongs to
[11:10] <bonhoeffer> i can't remove a key . . .
[11:13] <bonhoeffer> i guess it is openssh
[11:13] <bonhoeffer> that i need to restart
[11:14] <biopyte> or ... is there a way to rotate a single window, but not the whole screen?
[11:15] <digitalcrow> hello i need help !
[11:15] <quietone> theadmin, thanks for your assistance
[11:15] <digitalcrow> Help , ubuntu 11.10 64bit , I can't shutdown or restart my pc anymore !
[11:16] <houdini_> Hello, can someone help me connect from a ubuntu machine to a freenas share folder?
[11:16] <Promille> digitalcrow: can you be more specific? any error messages?
[11:17] <houdini_> I am using a ubuntu machine and i want to access files on another machine on my network. I can not see the machine in Places. How do I set it up so that the files on the other machine are accessable
[11:20] <Promille> houdini_: I assume the other pcs are window pc's?
[11:21] <Promille> !samba | houdini_
[11:21] <houdini_> No it is FreeNas server. I can access the folder I want from other windows machines. I am trying to do the same from my ubuntu machine.
[11:21] <Promille> houdini_: ah ok, sorry.
[11:22] <digitalcrow> Help , ubuntu 11.10 64bit , I can't shutdown or restart my pc anymore !
[11:22] <vooze> digitalcrow: sudo reboot?
[11:22] <digitalcrow> nothing works
[11:23] <digitalcrow> i just tried to pass reboot=bios setting to grub
[11:23] <Promille> houdini_: Maby this will help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1682767 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280473
[11:23] <digitalcrow> do you know what is going on?
[11:26] <Promille> digitalcrow: open a terminal(alt+f2 + gnome-terminal) -> write sudo shutdown "now"
[11:26] <Promille> digitalcrow: what happens then?
[11:26] <Promille> digitalcrow: or sudo shutdown -r "now" ...
[11:28] <Promille> guess it worked..
[11:29] <digitalcrow> from terminal only
[11:29] <VividRealityWork> Is it possible to use Kernel 2.6 drivers in Kernel 3.0?
[11:30] <ye> hi
[11:30] <digitalcrow> i dont know whats going on
[11:31] <digitalcrow> can't shutdown my pc
[11:31] <digitalcrow> or restart from the menu or lightdm
[11:31] <Promille> digitalcrow: error messages?
[11:31] <Promille> digitalcrow: and it did work from terminal?
[11:32] <digitalcrow> it doesn't shutdown at all
[11:32] <digitalcrow> it can reboot from terminal
[11:32] <Stanley00> digitalcrow: me too, cant shutdown the graphical way, I just can only use command line
[11:33] <digitalcrow> i was able to shutdown and reboot from graphical environment
[11:33] <digitalcrow> for a long time
[11:33] <Promille> digitalcrow: Stanley00 : What happens when you try then? Be as specific as possible. "It doesnt work" dont give guys alot to work with :)
[11:33] <houdini_> It was Nautilus that I needed to install. All ok now. Thank you
[11:33] <Stanley00> Promille: I dont know, it shows nothing :(
[11:33] <digitalcrow> from graphical environment it brings the lightdm screen and thats all
[11:34] <digitalcrow> from terminal its seems like it shutting down but then stucks
[11:34] <Stanley00> Promille: but you can ignore me, i'm using 12.04, just help digitalcrow ;)
[11:34] <Promille> digitalcrow: So you were not able to successfully restart from the terminal either?
[11:34] <Promille> digitalcrow: If so, any error messages from terminal?
[11:35] <digitalcrow> i can restart the pc form terminal
[11:36] <digitalcrow> now
[11:36] <Promille> digitalcrow: I suggest you make a thread about it at examply ubuntuforums.org, and include as much details at possible, but from the GUI-way and sudo shutdown -r "now" from terminal
[11:37] <Promille> digitalcrow: Ok. It may be a bug with the GUI-way, or not all the killsignals are sent, so the OS waits till it gets all "OKs". Make a forum thread
[11:40] <frybye> hi - hwinfo is showing 2.7gb Memory while afaik I have 3gb installed.. does it no show memory shared with grafics or something?
[11:41] <Culiforge> Is it possible to copy installed programs from on install to another with rsync? Both installs are on the same system with the same 10.04. I've already rsync'd the home directory. Or is there a better way to accomplish this?
[11:41] <gartral> frybye: you're coorect to a point, the system will reserve a chunk of memory at start for various things..
[11:41] <frybye> gartral - and that reserved memory is now shown in the hwinfo report?
[11:41] <jrib> Culiforge: just use apt on the other system to install what you want.  Or do you want to install all the same programs you've already installed on one system?
[11:42] <gartral> frybye: It might not be, as hwinfo only reports what's accessable in userspace.
[11:42] <Culiforge> jrib: the latter, I'm merely cloning a user and looking for ease of doing so
[11:42] <frybye> e e e sorry now - was a typo was meant to be -not- ok then we are on the same page.. ;=)
[11:42] <jrib> !clone | Culiforge
[11:44] <gartral> jrib: I have a challenge for. If I want too remove all -dev packages from a system, what regex string would i use? *\-dev isn't doing it..
[11:45] <Culiforge> jrib: would that command be used on the source install or the destination install?
[11:45] <llutz> gartral: aptitude remove '~n-dev' ;)
[11:45] <jrib> Culiforge: there's a command you use to generate the list (on the source) and a command to install the list (on the target)
[11:45] <sweb> any ppa for last stable version of mysql ?
[11:46] <jrib> gartral: .* for regex
[11:46] <Culiforge> jrib: right, there in lies the problem... the source install is not bootable
[11:46] <jrib> Culiforge: why?
[11:47] <overclucker> Is it even safe to remove all -dev packages?
[11:47] <orated_> Hello! What does hdXy and sdXy represent? How does installer name it and on what basis?
[11:47] <Culiforge> jrib: installed an nvidia 8400gs and during the reboot to activate driver it borked something and made that install unbootable.. anything I've tried (searching forums, advice here, etc has been a dead end)
[11:47] <Stanley00> orated_: hd is for IDE hard disk, and sd is for hard disk with SCSI, I think
[11:48] <jrib> Culiforge: you can't get to recovery mode using the grub menu?
[11:48] <Culiforge> jrib: nope, no command line joy at all
[11:48] <gartral> jrib: AH.. ok thank you, now i know exactly how much space my dev packages are taking up.. 500 mb
[11:48] <jrib> Culiforge: what happens exactly when you select rocevory mode?
[11:49] <Culiforge> jrib: same as with normal..  message
[11:49] <jrib> Culiforge: boot a live cd and chroot to the install then
[11:50] <orated_> Ok thanks Stanley00
[11:50] <Culiforge> jrib: I think i'm a bit green for that unless you're willing to help :)
[11:50] <Stanley00> orated_: you are welcome ;)
[11:50] <jrib> !chroot | Culiforge
[11:51] <jrib> Culiforge: you're able to boot a live cd?
[11:51] <Culiforge> jrib: yes, I am
[11:51] <Kartagis> hi. my sound applet has disappeared. help me?
[11:51] <jrib> Culiforge: once you boot the live cd, just open a shell and type: sudo chroot /path/to/where/your/install/root/is/mounted
[11:52] <ryankey> Kartagis, 11.10?
[11:52] <Culiforge> jrib: what would be a general example of what "/path/to/where/your/install/root/is/mounted" looks like... name-wise
[11:53] <jrib> Culiforge: /media/whatever
[11:53] <BigWill> comment aller sur le tchat français ?
[11:53] <Kartagis> ryankey: yes
[11:53] <jrib> !fr | BigWill
[11:53] <overclucker> aptitude search '~i~M-dev' show there being a more than a few automaaticall installed -dev packages
[11:53] <Culiforge> jrib: ah, so the mount point of the live media? or deeper
[11:54] <jrib> Culiforge: the mount point of your install
[11:54] <jrib> Culiforge: where your / for the install is mounted when you boot up the live cd
[11:54] <bytesofbinary> how do I edit the boot menu in ubuntu? Can anyone tell me which file I need to edit?
[11:54] <jrib> !grub | bytesofbinary
[11:54] <Culiforge> jrib: ok, great.. I'll run with that.. and be back when I get lost :)
[11:55] <Culiforge> jrib: thank you
[11:56] <qwertz1111> my ubuntu sits at 100% cpu load and warms!
[11:57] <ryankey> Kartagis, did you do anything before it disappeared?
[11:59] <Kartagis> ryankey: if I remember correctly, my sound had gone too and I changed hardware options in the sound properties to get it back
[12:00] <varun06> I have installed marlin file explorer, it is not working, I am getting error for libunity.so.6
[12:00] <bs> what is the best mp4 player
[12:00] <bs> mp3*
[12:00] <ryankey> Hmmm... if it's just the unity panel messing up, you can try reinstalling indicator-sound using apt-get (purge and then install), then killall unity-panel-service
[12:00] <r3d0ctob3r> bs banshee is good
[12:00] <namoamitabuddha> Is there anyone know why when I first start up my PC, the network cannot be used.
[12:01] <bs> r3d0ctob3r, i dont like it
[12:01] <r3d0ctob3r> namoamitabuddha what's going on when you type "ifconfig" ?
[12:01] <vto> Hello, how can i make a image of a running ubuntu (using lvm2) that could be use to be executed in a virtual machine software like vmware?
[12:01] <namoamitabuddha> r3d0ctob3r: The network is connected, but I cannot browse the internet.
[12:02] <r3d0ctob3r> ping google.fr ?
[12:02] <dragonballz> ciao a tutti
[12:02] <dragonballz> !list
[12:03] <gartral> argh
[12:03] <r3d0ctob3r> bs >> do you want a iTunes like ?
[12:03] <namoamitabuddha> r3d0ctob3r: cannot. the problem happens only I first startup the computer. the problem might be solved after rebooting.
[12:03] <qwertz1111> is thwew  A WAy to reduce memiru cconsumption on Ubunru??
[12:03] <gartral> I'm beginning too think that the devs that sign up for the humble bundle don't test games at all
[12:03] <gartral> qwertz1111: ouch...
[12:03] <r3d0ctob3r> It's strange. How often it happen ? Every day ?
[12:05] <bs> r3d0ctob3r, i want some thing lite like winamp or something like that
[12:05] <namoamitabuddha> r3d0ctob3r: I don't know exactly. But It often happens. And it might also happen after resuming from suspend (I seldom suspend the pc, but it happened once).
[12:05] <gartral> bs: what? you want something like winamp? like the milkdrop visuals?
[12:06] <bs> r3d0ctob3r, yes
[12:07] <r3d0ctob3r> ok bs
[12:07] <r3d0ctob3r> french website, but you'll recognize ;)
[12:07] <r3d0ctob3r> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/lecteur_audio#les_winamp-like_vieux_winamp
[12:08] <bs> r3d0ctob3r, by the way do you have any clue how to run paltalk 10 on ubuntu 11.10
[12:08] <r3d0ctob3r> The first sentence says that "these sofware seems to be like the old-winamp. They are supposed to listen to musics, not to manage your music like you do on itunes
[12:09] <r3d0ctob3r> bs i dont know this software, did you ask google ?
[12:09] <namoamitabuddha> Francias
[12:09] <bs> r3d0ctob3r, yes but it talk about old versions
[12:09] <r3d0ctob3r> I dont know how is the current version of winamp
[12:10] <r3d0ctob3r> else, maybe you can try Amarok ? sudo apt-get install amarok
[12:10] <qwertz1111> how to reduce memory consumption in ubuntu?
[12:10] <qwertz1111> how ro hold a pckage in ubuntu?
[12:10] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: aptitude hold
[12:10] <r3d0ctob3r> namomitabuddha yes i am. I dunno why it happens. Are you link with your modem/livebox by ethernet or wifi ?
[12:11] <zykotick9> bs: audacious is like winamp
[12:11] <dr_willis> !pin
[12:11] <Culiforge> jrib: one more thing before I plunge into the darkness, once I chroot to the install media.. what's my course of action?
[12:11] <bs> zykotick9, ok thanks
[12:11] <r3d0ctob3r> Next time it happens, try "dhclient", it allows your computer to ask your livebox to get an IP (192.168.0.*)
[12:11] <qwertz1111> i hae no PTUTUDE
[12:11] <namoamitabuddha> r3d0ctob3r: wifi
[12:12] <namoamitabuddha> r3d0ctob3r: wicd is a frontend of dhcpcd or dhclient.
[12:12] <qwertz1111> how to hold package manually?
[12:13] <r3d0ctob3r> Did you ever try wicd ?
[12:13] <namoamitabuddha> r3d0ctob3r: It is stranger that when I reconnect the links by wicd, it can work for some seconds but eventually it cannot work.
[12:13] <mongy> anyone good with openvpn?  I have it installed and setup, iptables setup for forwarding etc, it connects, gets an ip, can ping vpn server, can ping <IP_ADDRESS> and www.google.com but cant get firefox to load up any page.
[12:13] <qwertz1111> how to hold package manually?
[12:14] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: Read Debian-Reference
[12:14] <qwertz1111> read what?
[12:14] <theadmin> qwertz1111: echo "packagename hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[12:14] <r3d0ctob3r> I suppose when you suspended ya PC the start it, your PC doesnt launch some services used for wifi
[12:14] <zykotick9> !pin | qwertz1111
[12:15] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html
[12:16] <gothikon85> hi guys
[12:16] <qwertz1111> oh lol it worked
[12:17] <gothikon85> I need a hint please about a mounted drive that is reported as full....but it isn't ... I'm using that drive as a destination for automated backups in a network
[12:17] <gothikon85> did anyone had this issue before ?
[12:18] <bs> thunderbird download the whole message from my hotmail and that take long time how can i configure it to just download the message i want to open..and why it make my old messages as unread
[12:18] <gothikon85> df shows 100% used disk space.... how can it be.... I've deleted a bunch of stuff from the drive, rebooted the server...and still disk full
[12:18] <qwertz1111> bs it's not c..pzilla support channel
[12:18] <zykotick9> gothikon85: check if the inodes or full "df -i"
[12:18] <namoamitabuddha> IMAP or POP3?
[12:18] <iceroot> gothikon85: trash?
[12:18] <iceroot> gothikon85: when deleting through a gui it goes into trash
[12:19] <namoamitabuddha> gothikon85: what filesystem?
[12:19] <qwertz1111> how to reduce ubuntu mmemory consumption
[12:19] <gothikon85> zykotick9: Hi, df -i reports 1% used inods on all present drives
[12:19] <bs> qwertz1111, what is the right channel
[12:19] <iceroot> qwertz1111: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[12:19] <gothikon85> iceroot: I'm not using X....only CLI....
[12:20] <namoamitabuddha> gothikon85: which filesystem?
[12:22] <gothikon85> namoamitabudha: guys... sorry about this.... I've just realise this isn't ubuntu....is cent os kernel 2.6.18 (I think 5.x)
[12:22] <gothikon85> I'll go on centos channel, sorry about this and thank you
[12:22] <dr_willis> gothikon85:  well the fundamentals should still apply.  ;)
[12:22] <theadmin> dr_willis: Doesn't mean we can support that OS here.
[12:22] <namoamitabuddha> gothikon85: Only ubuntu has the problem?
[12:22] <dr_willis> gothikon85:  use some find/script to deterine whats taking up all the space. I was about to google one for ya
[12:23] <arakno> hallo pple: how can i resize desktop grid for icons so that icons get placed on half screen..?
[12:24] <gothikon85> dr_willis: well should be the same concept...but also the channel policy .... you know.... + yes I did search the google....and got stucked....that's why I've installed pidging and enter the chan....
[12:24] <qwertz1111> i can run destop but it in several minutes dies at 100% cpu
[12:24] <dafox> sorry, got disconnected (poor wireless). Did I miss anyone's reply to my question about font rendering?
[12:24] <qwertz1111> how to fix it\
[12:24] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: It might be a kernel bug.
[12:25] <gothikon85> hmm....centos channel .... can't send my text to channel..... I have to register.... pffff....this is a new one
[12:25] <qwertz1111> and ubuntu reaLLY sucks at multitasking
[12:25] <dr_willis> qwertz1111:  it multitasks just as good as any other disrto.
[12:25] <qwertz1111> when this happens i have to maake hard reset
[12:25] <qwertz1111> because no keys work at time
[12:25] <dr_willis> system crashing is a crashing system..
[12:25] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: SysRq works
[12:25] <dr_willis> You could ssh in from another box and try to determine whats sucking down the system
[12:26] <qwertz1111> i don\t know how to press sysrq
[12:26] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: Alt + PrtSc
[12:26] <dr_willis> !dontzap
[12:26] <Kartagis> ryankey: well? any word for me?
[12:26] <qwertz1111> alt+fn+del?
[12:26] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-sysreq-SOMTHING can help get out of hung systems also.. but i forget the magic key combos
[12:27] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f# normally gets to the consoles.
[12:27] <qwertz1111> you mean alt-ctrl-fn-del?
[12:27] <namoamitabuddha> dr_willis: C-A-Backspace is normally canceled by the new version of Xorg.
[12:27] <dr_willis> qwertz1111:  never needed the del key..
[12:27] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 11.10] Audacity: Clicking  Welcome at Audacity > How to Get Help > Quick Help does not produce any reaction. How to install »Quick Help« locally?
[12:27] <Kartagis> dr_willis: I lost my sound applet. can you help me get it back?
[12:27] <dr_willis> namoamitabuddha:  thats why i gave the url to reneable it. :)
[12:28] <qwertz1111> sysrq is a del key in fn shift state
[12:28] <arakno> i use transparency terminals all over, but i get icons on the view.. I want to limit the area of the desktop where icons are put
[12:28] <dr_willis> qwertz1111:  not on my keyboard..
[12:28] <ryankey> Kartagis, I said earlier that it might be a panel bug. It could help to reinstall the sound indicator using sudo apt-get purge indicator-sound and sudo apt-get install indicator-sound, then to killall unity-panel-service
[12:28] <namoamitabuddha> dr_willis: SysRq works.
[12:28] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  is sound working?
[12:28] <namoamitabuddha> dr_willis: OOM Killer.
[12:28] <theadmin> Alt-SysRQ-K can normally be used to restart X
[12:29] <qwertz1111> the most funny is when you switch consoles but cannot log in because of login timeout
[12:29] <dr_willis> I use the sysreq stuff so rarely i never can rember the Keys.
[12:29] <Kartagis> ryankey: sorry, I didn't see it, because the client didn't highlight me
[12:29] <namoamitabuddha> yes, saK can restart X
[12:29] <Kartagis> dr_willis: yes
[12:29] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: I know.
[12:29] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  using unity? or gnome-shell?
[12:29] <dmtarmey> hello can anyone help me with an issue with virtual box im running xp on linux but the vbox isnt loaded xp it is stuck in welcome screen and flashing
[12:29] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: I know what you mean.
[12:29] <theadmin> dr_willis: Just remember that raising skinny elephants is utterly boring
[12:30] <dr_willis> I tend to just ssh in and restart stuff ;)
[12:30] <dr_willis> android phone = ssh terminal in my pocket.
[12:30] <arakno> dmtarmey: how vbox isnt loaded?
[12:30] <Kartagis> dr_willis: unity I guess, oneiric here
[12:30] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: I don't accurately know the problem but I know that there's a memory-management bug in kernel for a long time.
[12:30] <theadmin> dr_willis: Heh I know what you mean, that doesn't always work though
[12:30] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: SysRq + f works.
[12:30] <dmtarmey> the load up screen with vbox on but dosnt load windows its just flashing
[12:31] <arakno> dmtarmey: try installing ubuntu in virtualbox
[12:31] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: First, check: cat /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq
[12:32] <Kartagis> heh, it's back thanks ryankey. apparently indicator-sound had been purged before somehow
[12:32] <arakno> dmtarmey: if everything works, its windowsrelated
[12:32] <dr_willis> Kartagis:  magic. :)
[12:32] <dmtarmey> it was working fine until i installed wireless driver and shut down windows but then windows crashed so i had to shut it down
[12:32] <ryankey> Kartagis, Oops. That'll do it. You're welcome
[12:32] <dr_willis> you innstalled a wireless driver on XP in vbox?
[12:33] <arakno> dmtarmey: this is ubuntu, at virtualbox they'll sure be more specific
[12:33] <dmtarmey> there is no one at virtualbox
[12:33] <qwertz1111> it's "1"
[12:33] <arakno> dmtarmey: sure?.. i found quite some folks there..
[12:34] <dmtarmey> ok ill try there again
[12:34] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: When your system froze, try Alt + PrtSc + f. It kills the process which is out of memory.
[12:35] <namoamitabuddha> qwertz1111: It is called "OOM-Killer"
[12:37] <dr_willis> getting where i see a lot of keyboards make it hard to actually use the  Sysreq/Print Screen key. Just noticed this one dosent even say 'sysreq' on it.
[12:38] <dr_willis> gotta use fn-home to even use Print Screen.
[12:38] <qwertz1111> fn-insert here
[12:39] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 11.10] Audacity: Clicking  Welcome at Audacity > How to Get Help > Quick Help does not produce any reaction. How to install »Quick Help« locally?
[12:39] <dr_willis> so i think id have to do alt-ctrl-fn-stand-on-myhead-printscreen :)
[12:41] <LigH> Greetings.
[12:41] <_Ethan_> uep!
[12:42] <_Ethan_> Does it worth to install ubuntu 64 bit for a 2.4Ghz quad (i think q6600)
[12:42] <bullgard4> _Ethan_: Yes.
[12:42] <_Ethan_> i´d like to know, in general terms, differences in performance.
[12:42] <dafox> does ubuntu still use the file /etc/fonts/local.conf? It seems to be ignored, and it's not included by e.g. /etc/fonts/fonts.conf ?
[12:42] <auronandace> _Ethan_: if you can install 64bit, it's almost always best to install 64bit
[12:43] <_Ethan_> auronandace i´d like to bencharmk it, any command or programm?
[12:43] <namoamitabuddha> dafox: don't use.
[12:43] <LigH> I don't get weather and temperature values for my location I set up in the scheduler in Gnome Classic. Is my location too far away from the next supported location, regarding its coordinates?
[12:43] <auronandace> _Ethan_: sorry, iv'e never run any benchmarks
[12:43] <_Ethan_> and, is it possible to install ubuntu 64 "over" ubuntu 32, to not to do more partitions
[12:44] <theadmin> _Ethan_: No, it's not
[12:44] <_Ethan_> oh :
[12:44] <_Ethan_> (
[12:44] <theadmin> _Ethan_: That is, you have to reinstall.
[12:44] <theadmin> _Ethan_: You can't "upgrade" to 64-bit or something
[12:44] <dafox> namoamitabuddha: why not, and what is the recommended way to enable the lcflegacy filter for freetype/fontconfig?
[12:44] <_Ethan_> yes, that's what i mean, but would be my programms conserved?
[12:44] <_Ethan_> ok
[12:44] <namoamitabuddha> dafox: If local, create $HOME/.fonts.conf
[12:44] <_Ethan_> i didnt read "cant" xD
[12:44] <zykotick9> _Ethan_: using 64bit or 32bit depends more on the ammount of memory you have then anything else, if you have 4GB or more, use 64bit (i actually use 64bit whenever CPU supports, but on my EEE with 1GB RAM it's foolish really)
[12:45] <dafox> namoamitabuddha: system wide please
[12:45] <_Ethan_> i have 4 gb yes
[12:45] <namoamitabuddha> dafox: If global, write a new file in /etc/fonts/conf.d/
[12:45] <dafox> namoamitabuddha: and if I put it in .fonts.conf, it should have the same effect as local.conf in terms of priority
[12:45] <_Ethan_> zykotick9 what is your EEE ?
[12:45] <varun06> I have installed Marlin, can I remove nautilus?
[12:46] <namoamitabuddha> dafox: see /etc/fonts/conf.d/README
[12:46] <zykotick9> _Ethan_: Asus EEEpc Netbook
[12:46] <_Ethan_> ok
[12:46] <killown> I can't install unity 5.2, I have unity-team ppa here and I did apt-get update, but when I try dist-upgrade it throws the old one unity_4.28.0-0ubuntu2_i386.deb, do anyone  why I cant install unity 5.2?
[12:46] <_Ethan_> also i am considering to buy a laptop
[12:46] <_Ethan_> to have ubuntu and windows installed
[12:47] <_Ethan_> maybe asus is a good choice, i saw not very expensive models...
[12:47] <varun06> can I remove nautilus
[12:47] <bs> how can i mount iso file?
[12:47] <namoamitabuddha> bs: mount -o loop
[12:47] <zykotick9> !iso | bs
[12:47] <auronandace> _Ethan_: thinkpads are awesome but stay away from hybrid graphics
[12:47] <namoamitabuddha> !help
[12:49] <dafox> namoamitabuddha: changes should take effect for newly launched applications, right? I've added a 'ln -s ../local.conf 99-enforce-local.conf' to the conf.d directory, but it is still not rendering text the way I want. I've taken the local.conf of my other laptop (gentoo) which is working btw.
[12:49] <varun06> can I remove nautilus without any side effects on Ubuntu 11.10
[12:49] <LigH> Is there a map of supported weather locations available (for Europe, Germany)?
[12:50] <Sirijus> hello
[12:50] <killown> I need know how install unity 5.2 on oneric
[12:50] <auronandace> varun06: it will likely break unity or gnome
[12:50] <Sirijus> is there any irc client that supports tcl besides xchat?
[12:50] <varun06> ohhkkk
[12:50] <auronandace> killown: ppas aren't supported here, contact the ppa author
[12:51] <_Ethan_> btw, i am reading that sometimes upgrading to 64 only allows managmente of bigger variables
[12:51] <_Ethan_> (in the case o matlab)
[12:51] <_Ethan_> and not an increase in the speed.
[12:51] <_Ethan_> *increment
[12:51] <bs> i got this error when i try to mount No such file or directory
[12:52] <bs> this is what i wrote pzilla
[12:52] <bs> sudo mount -o loop addonia-xplane10a media/EC2C32162C31DC70
[12:52] <qwertz1111> how to s
[12:52] <auronandace> _Ethan_: essentially the only reason to not use 64bit on a 64bit processor is if you absolutely need compatibility with 32bit (not many apps are like that)
[12:52] <qwertz1111> *use scrollbars in ubuntu?
[12:52] <qwertz1111> wrong
[12:52] <qwertz1111> most of 64bit software is terribly buggy
[12:53] <theadmin> qwertz1111: lolwut? When are you from, 2000?
[12:53] <theadmin> qwertz1111: If you have no idea what you're talking about, don't.
[12:53] <qwertz1111> i have 64bit
[12:53] <stefano__> i have problem to install dwl-2100ap (access point d-link)
[12:53] <qwertz1111> i have 32 too and can compare
[12:53] <auronandace> qwertz1111: i've used 64bit for years, hardly buggy in my experience
[12:54] <bs> zykotick9, i got this error No such file or directory
[12:54] <auronandace> qwertz1111: theres almost no difference
[12:54] <_Ethan_> auronandace yes
[12:54] <_Ethan_> do you have 64 bits installed?
[12:54] <auronandace> _Ethan_: yes
[12:55] <qwertz1111> how to put scrollbars back to have thickness and arroes?
[12:55] <mintman> found it based on debian zorin os is a look alike for linux to windows..
[12:55] <MystKid> hello guys i jsut updated to ubuntu 10.0 build1 and its crashing. how can i downgrade it
[12:55] <zykotick9> bs: there are several issues with the command you tried...  someone else can help you.  Good luck.
[12:55] <auronandace> MystKid: what do you mean by "ubuntu 10.0 build1"
[12:56] <nirjhor> using 11.10 32 bit on an asus k40IJ laptop, my screen brightness is not working with fn keys
[12:56] <MystKid> firwfox i ment sorry
[12:56] <MystKid> firefox 10.0 build 1
[12:56] <MystKid> is crashing
[12:56] <nirjhor> and there is no xorg.conf file on /etc/X11/
[12:56] <dr_willis> i can honestly say - ive rarely had any issues that were 64bit related..
[12:56] <auronandace> !ppa | MystKid
[12:57] <LjL> qwertz1111: bunch of howtos say you need to "export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0" inside /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80overlayscrollbars
[12:57] <MystKid> i cant risk
[12:57] <dr_willis> qwertz1111:  the webupd8 blog site has a unity tweaking guide that tells how to go back to the old scrollbar way
[12:57] <_Ethan_> which laptop would you recommend ? im thinking about a budget of no more than 700 euros
[12:57] <auronandace> !ppa-purge | MystKid
[12:57] <photon> hi. does Ubuntu already support 3D video files?
[12:57] <icarious> Windows is better than Ubuntu
[12:57] <LjL> !ot | icarious
[12:57] <nirjhor> somebody give me a tips on what to do
[12:57] <mintman> icarious: lol why?
[12:57] <dr_willis> _Ethan_:  check out the various laptop review sites. id suggest avoiding one that has that fancy 'dual gpu' stuff. or that just came out this month.
[12:58] <auronandace> _Ethan_: thinkpads are awesome
[12:58] <icarious> no.. it should support windows related questions. as it is a noob friendly distro anyways
[12:58] <zykotick9> nirjhor: on my Asus EEE, i have to add acpi_osi=Linux to my kernel line to get brightness working
[12:58] <qwertz1111> what file again?
[12:58] <dmtarmey> hi does anyone know if ubuntu has a system for rolling backs changes you make that damage the system link suse has
[12:58] <auronandace> icarious: go troll elsewhere
[12:58] <LjL> icarious: but it doesn't. so please keep it about Ubuntu.
[12:58] <icarious> mintman: windows respects the EULA.. i love proprietary software
[12:58] <nirjhor> zykotick9: how did you do that?
[12:58] <dr_willis> dmtarmey:  changes 'you' make as in what cahnges?
[12:59] <qwertz1111> to change setting in which file?
[12:59] <dmtarmey> any changes like windows has and suse has a system to
[12:59] <zykotick9> nirjhor: try adapting the nomodeset instructions with the acpi_osi=Linux instead
[12:59] <mintman> icarious: what windows based question do u have... It costs money linux is free. tell me again why windows is better. ???
[12:59] <zykotick9> !nomodeset | nirjhor
[12:59] <_Ethan_> auronandace i havent heard about them
[12:59] <dr_willis> dmtarmey:  theres no 'restore point' system that ive ever noticed.
[12:59] <LjL> mintman: he's gone. please keep this channel on-topic, discussing whether Windows or Ubuntu is better is not.
[12:59] <can-o-worms> hey guys, can someone please tell me why nmap would say this -> 6000/tcp open  X11     (access denied), when i know it needs to say this -> 6000/tcp open  X11     X.Org (open)
[12:59] <mintman> LjL: ok
[12:59] <auronandace> _Ethan_: read some reviews
[13:00] <dmtarmey> ok cheers
[13:00] <auronandace> _Ethan_: i have a t61 and a t510, works like a dream
[13:00] <qwertz1111> mintman: because windows doesn't lock up after 15 minutes of GUI work
[13:00] <_Ethan_> yes, i am reading right now :)
[13:00] <auronandace> _Ethan_: even my old t40 is still running (my only 32bit machine left)
[13:00] <mintman> qwertz1111: what? sure ur using ubuntu?
[13:00] <_Ethan_> but they are not common in shops
[13:00] <_Ethan_> you know, i have a toshiba 8086 from 1985
[13:01] <_Ethan_> laptop
[13:01] <_Ethan_> from my father
[13:01] <_Ethan_> incredible!
[13:01] <FloodBot1> _Ethan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:01] <qwertz1111> mintman: you may read channel log for details
[13:01] <auronandace> _Ethan_: i've bought all my thinkpads from ebay, secondhand
[13:02] <mintman> qwertz1111: look just got here. been using linux since 1994 never had gui lock up on me or even linux crash without me expermenting.
[13:02] <qwertz1111> can someone post the method of changing scrollbars again?
[13:02] <dr_willis> auronandace:  you like that red joy-mouse thing they have? :) i never could get the feel for them
[13:02] <LjL> qwertz1111: bunch of howtos say you need to "export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0" inside /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80overlayscrollbars
[13:03] <mintman> qwertz1111: are u using unity?
[13:03] <dr_willis> qwertz1111:   the webupd8 blog site has a extensive page on unity tweaks that cover that tip LjL  posted. You can disable it for just one app via that method i belive. System wide theres that way, or other ways to do it.
[13:03] <auronandace> dr_willis: i've always used a usb mouse with them (essentially use thinkpads as desktop replacements)
[13:03] <dr_willis> auronandace:  my last laptop weighed more then many desktops. :)
[13:04] <qwertz1111> dr_willis: check my irc client, the last thing i want to is browse internet
[13:04] <mintman> qwertz1111: Try linux mint 12 or cinnamon which is not supported by ubunut
[13:04] <mintman> ops ubuntu
[13:04] <gartral> mintman: what is ubunut? :P
[13:04]  * gartral is now hungry, bored, and tired
[13:05] <dInGd0nG> i want networkmanager 0.9 and modemmanager 0.5 to be backported to lucid.
[13:05] <mintman> u could try Zorin Os based on debian looks like windows to me
[13:05] <LjL> dInGd0nG: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBackports#Requesting_a_Backport
[13:06]  * qwertz1111 thinks that many distros diffent only in themes are crap
[13:06] <LjL> how about moving the alternative distros discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:06] <asdfss> i installed ubuntu but it doesn't work
[13:07] <auronandace> !doesntwork | asdfss
[13:07] <dr_willis> and i was about to mention Fluffy Linux with the Pink Theme! :)
[13:07] <mintman> qwertz1111: stop with hate that is not good ubuntu is a linux distro, maybe a bit to much for a first time windows user it has a learning curve.
[13:07] <asdfss> i installed it with wubi
[13:07] <dr_willis> asdfss:  installed a full install or wubi install?  what does it do exactly? grub menu? logon screen...
[13:08] <asdfss> and when i choose ubuntu it gives me a black screen
[13:08] <asdfss> i've got an acer aspire one
[13:08] <dr_willis> asdfss:  whats your video chipset? You may want to try out the nomodeset option.
[13:08] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | asdfss
[13:08] <FCR2012> Ubuntu ROCKS
[13:08] <asdfss> how do i install it with wubi
[13:09] <qwertz1111> why my consoles have VGA resolution?
[13:09] <FCR2012> Asdf
[13:09] <FCR2012> You are using windows seven ?
[13:09] <asdfss> yes
[13:09] <asdfss> currently typing from it
[13:09] <FCR2012> qwertz are you using vga cable ?
[13:09] <FCR2012> asdf search on google
[13:09] <LjL> dInGd0nG: i think not
[13:09] <dafox> ok, why is the /etc/fonts/ directory completely ignored? I've just replaced the whole directory with the /etc/fonts directory of my gentoo system, and still my fonts look like blurry crap
[13:10] <LjL> FCR2012: "search on google" is not useful help
[13:10] <FCR2012> "how to install linux in windows 7" search that
[13:10] <FCR2012> It will help you
[13:10] <asdfss> i searched
[13:10] <asdfss> it says cd
[13:10] <FCR2012> or listen to me :P
[13:10] <asdfss> usb
[13:10] <asdfss> wubi
[13:10] <Barbariandude> Hey guys. If I copy everything (root and upwards) to an external hard disk, then after wiping the disk/installing another OS/doing random stuff, could I put all that data back on the disk and do boot-repair to get it working again?
[13:10] <FCR2012> Asdf burn ubuntu image on cd
[13:10] <qwertz1111> wubi works until first update
[13:11] <FCR2012> Yup
[13:11] <asdfss> it's a netbook no cd possible
[13:11] <asdfss> acer aspire one
[13:11] <FCR2012> I didn’t  use wubi
[13:11] <dr_willis> Barbariandude:  it may take some effort.  and not just a simple 'drag/drop copy'
[13:11] <Barbariandude> asdfss, you can use USB though
[13:11] <FCR2012> i did make the Boot install
[13:11] <qwertz1111> how to change fullscreen console resoltion?
[13:11] <reCAPTCHA> Hey, I've got an issue. I keep getting a dependancy error, but as far as I know I have the package already installed. Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: ia32-libs (>= 20080808)
[13:11] <CharminTheMoose> Barbariandude, yes, you can. Just remember to re-install grub on the MBR.
[13:11] <dr_willis> Barbariandude:  you could image your current install, then restore it.
[13:11] <FCR2012> I make 4 gbs of swap
[13:11] <asdfss> i tried but the bios doesn't let me boot through usb
[13:12] <LjL> Barbariandude: more or less... but you should be careful how you copy stuff, like, avoid copying /sys and /proc. cp has an option to not cross filesystem boundaries.
[13:12] <FCR2012> and 27 gb of linux
[13:12] <Barbariandude> dr_willis, I'll look into imaging then, thanks
[13:12] <reCAPTCHA> Synaptic tells me I have ia32-libs installed already.
[13:12] <FCR2012> HOLY CRAP
[13:12] <CharminTheMoose> On a related note, does cp -a / work perfectly for copying (unmounted) systems?
[13:12] <qwertz1111> !lang
[13:12] <FCR2012> Asdf
[13:12] <FCR2012> how much mem of ram you have
[13:12] <LjL> dInGd0nG: you need to "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-dev-tools" and then run "requestbackports" from a terminal
[13:12] <asdfss> i have 1 gb
[13:13] <FCR2012> So
[13:13] <dafox> CharminTheMoose: depends, you lose permission and ownership
[13:13] <FCR2012> burn cd image asdf
[13:13] <LjL> CharminTheMoose: copying *unmounted* filesystems?
[13:13] <dafox> I think
[13:13] <FCR2012> boot with that cd
[13:13] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 11.10] Audacity: Clicking  Welcome at Audacity > How to Get Help > Quick Help does not produce any reaction. How to install »Quick Help« locally?
[13:13] <asdfss> its a NETBOOK
[13:13] <CharminTheMoose> dafox, I thought cp -a kept perms and such?
[13:13] <asdfss> no cd port
[13:13] <FCR2012> and put 1 gb of swap
[13:13] <LjL> !enter
[13:13] <dafox> CharminTheMoose: yes, I think it does, I was too quick with anwering. sorry :)
[13:14] <CharminTheMoose> LjL, my bad. lets make that non-currently-/ systems. =)
[13:14] <FCR2012> I have to be a minut afk
[13:14] <dengyz> exit
[13:14] <zapbuzz> hello does ubuntu 11.10 have opengl built in?
[13:15] <FCR2012> yes i think
[13:15] <LjL> dInGd0nG: i'm afraid that's the only way at the moment
[13:15] <dr_willis> zapbuzz:  yes it should. also depends on your video chipset/driver if its actually used
[13:15] <FCR2012> i am not using ubuntu 2d
[13:15] <zapbuzz> its says unknown
[13:15] <zenon> hello, what is query and manipulate user account information accountservice up date for?
[13:15] <asdfss> could it be that there is no possible way to install ubuntu in acer aspire one?
[13:15] <FCR2012> I do have a great pc
[13:16] <LjL> asdfss: it is possible, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne
[13:16] <qwertz1111> how to change fullscreen console resoltion?
[13:16] <CharminTheMoose> asdfss, it is possible to boot from a USB stick
[13:16] <Ycarene> What's the name of the application that lets me set up my proprietary nvidia drivers?
[13:16] <FCR2012> that support Unity normally
[13:16] <LjL> Ycarene: yockey
[13:16] <LjL> Ycarene: jockey
[13:16] <FCR2012> My pc is a bit Awesome
[13:16] <Deckard_25_> hi, is there any way to set ondemand CPU governor for default? the performance one is being set automatically from some reason
[13:16] <FCR2012> ....
[13:17] <FCR2012> Intel i3 can support 64 bit ?
[13:17] <asdfss> LjL it says that D255 only can install 9.10
[13:17] <iceroot> FCR2012: yes
[13:17] <asdfss> 9.04*
[13:17] <FCR2012> @iceroot thanks
[13:17] <asdfss> how do i install 9.04 with wubi?
[13:17] <LjL> asdfss: i see, though i'm still tempted to believe it should work. have you already tried that "nomodeset" option?
[13:17] <FCR2012> i will do that next time i install linux
[13:18] <asdfss> yes i googled it before coming here and hasn't worked either
[13:18] <FCR2012> asdf
[13:18] <mintman> Deckard_25_: I'll bit haven'
[13:18] <FCR2012> asdf can install the 10.10 ver isn't guys ?
[13:19] <asdfss> i've got 2 computers more and i have been able to install ubuntu to them
[13:19] <kwtm2> Is there a deadline beyond which version upgrades to common software packages are no longer backported to LTS versions?  I'm trying to figure out how to get Vim 7.3 to the current LTS Ubuntu (current is Vim 7.2)
[13:20] <mintman> Deckard_25_: haven't seen a question on governing cpu since back in ubuntu 9.04.  Short answer is no and if you have limited resources use a lubuntu or crunchbang or bohdi or small damm linux or puppy linux.
[13:20] <FCR2012> Asdf
[13:20] <LjL> asdfss: are you really sure you can't boot from USB? it's possible you have to press F8 or something while the BIOS boots, in order to select the boot device. i'm saying this because i think a real installation is preferrable to Wubi.
[13:20] <zenon> ah ignorance is bliss =/
[13:20] <FCR2012> LjL yeah
[13:20] <FCR2012> I did that
[13:20] <Deckard_25_> mintman: it worked ok, but it must be some updates that broken this
[13:20] <asdfss> yes i went to advanced seetings in bios
[13:20] <FCR2012> but instead
[13:20] <asdfss> i choosed primary boot usb
[13:20] <asdfss> but doesn't work either
[13:20] <FCR2012> of usb i put a cd in primary
[13:20] <Deckard_25_> mintman: I can do: echo ondemand > .... and this works
[13:21] <LjL> kwtm2: normally, you don't get updates in the first place. only those for security fixes or fixes to serious bugs (until End Of Life). there is the "backports" repository, but it doesn't contain all packages, only those that people request.
[13:21] <asdfss> cannot choose cd
[13:21] <FCR2012> Windows don't
[13:21] <FCR2012> LjL you are kinda a Ubuntu genius to me
[13:21] <mintman> Deckard_25_:  aware of limiting cpu, u would have to do a script in order to run this every time.
[13:22] <zenon> hello, would I be more secure not installing query and manipulate user account information accountservice up date?
[13:22] <LjL> i've just used it for some years, there's many more things i don't know than ones i know about it, FCR2012
[13:22] <qwertz1111> how to change fullscreen console resoltion?
[13:22] <Deckard_25_> mintman: right, I'll probably do that
[13:22] <FCR2012> LjL i started using linux ubunto because of my brother
[13:22] <kwtm2> LjL: Thx for info.  Backports is something that is not installed by default, and that I would have to enable myself?  Could you point me to where I could find backports?  I'm sure someone has requested vim 7.3
[13:22] <Deckard_25_> mintman: thanks, bye
[13:22] <asdfss> could this be a problem of x.org or something?
[13:22] <mintman> good luck
[13:23] <FCR2012> My first ubuntu was 9.04
[13:23] <FCR2012> was simple and cool
[13:23] <FCR2012> with gnome
[13:24] <FCR2012> now is too way awesome
[13:24] <mintman> first ubuntu 8.10 I liked that version of ubuntu a lot
[13:24] <asdfss> it could be that the graphic card it is not capable of ubuntu possibly
[13:24] <asdfss> can i install lubuntu with wubi?
[13:24] <FCR2012> Mint i did used 8.10 (i think)
[13:24] <qwertz1111> asdfss: you could but lubunyu is near unuzable
[13:24] <LjL> asdfss: i don't know, but it's not like Lubuntu is different as far as graphics go, especially not if you get a blank screen *at boot*
[13:24] <FCR2012> Hey do anyone plays ROBLOX ?
[13:25] <zenon> USB multiplexor daemon for iphone and ipod touch device-libraries libaccountsservice, is that just for iphone and ipod?
[13:25] <mintman> 9.04 was trouble with sound, music and graphics for the first month
[13:25] <asdfss> it's a black screen
[13:25] <FCR2012> Who played Wolf 3d with a brother when was 6
[13:25] <FCR2012> i did
[13:25] <zenon> I have to troubleshoot my sound card
[13:25] <LjL> can we stay ontopic... please?
[13:25] <FCR2012> I am 10 years old next to 11
[13:26] <mintman> ok
[13:26] <FCR2012> i dont play much wolf 3d
[13:26] <qwertz1111> how to change fullscreen console resoltion? it's f-g VGA and ugly
[13:26] <FCR2012> i Play doom
[13:26] <FCR2012> In dosbox
[13:26] <asdfss> LjL why does a black scrren occur?
[13:26] <LjL> qwertz1111: i'm not sure, but maybe changing it for GRUB will change it for your console too - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Resolution_Settings
[13:26] <zenon> I played wolf & doom when I was that age ><
[13:27] <FCR2012> Doom is awesome
[13:27] <falkonz> HI. Is it safe to remove ~/.ecryptfs and ~/.Private?? I wan't to TURN OFF encryption of my home directory. Don't want to do any backup - JUST turn off encryption of my homedir... how?
[13:27] <LjL> asdfss: if i knew the answer to that, i'd probably know how to fix it too ;) i'm afraid i have no clue. i'm only saying that if you don't even see the boot logo or anything, then using Lubuntu instead of Ubuntu won't change things.
[13:27] <zenon> classic
[13:27] <FCR2012> doom 3 is not that good
[13:27] <asdfss> thanks for the help LjL
[13:28] <sharkmap> zenon: castle wolfenstein (the original)
[13:28] <asdfss> could another distro work?
[13:28] <FCR2012> much graphics instead of game play doom 3 has
[13:28] <LjL> FCR2012 and everyone: please, can you discuss games and other non-Ubuntu-support things in #ubuntu-offtopic? this channel needs to stay about support :)
[13:28] <zenon> I know I played it
[13:28] <FCR2012> k
[13:28] <zenon> so many doors lol
[13:28] <asdfss> does BSD have some sort of wubi alternative?
[13:28] <qwertz1111> and how can i watch commnity site from irssi?
[13:28] <FCR2012> I will be off
[13:28] <mintman> qwertz1111:  Look u may want to weight month or so see if they have worked out all the bugs with ur graphics driver. Also look on ubuntu forums to see if there is a solution if not post a comment about ur graphics card not working
[13:28] <falkonz> HI. Is it safe to remove ~/.ecryptfs and ~/.Private?? I wan't to TURN OFF encryption of my home directory. Don't want to do any backup - JUST turn off encryption of my homedir... how?
[13:28] <zenon> duke nukem was class too!
[13:29] <tjiggi_fo> asdfss, BSD does not
[13:29] <qwertz1111> mintman: that 'community' doesn't scratch their backsides about my graphics card more than 3 years that such topic exist
[13:29] <qwertz1111> *for
[13:29] <LjL> falkonz: that way it sounds like you'd lose all your encrypted data. but i don't know whether that's the appropriate way, even if that's what you want to do.
[13:29] <zenon> sierra's space quest
[13:29] <iceroot> falkonz: ~/.Private is your encrypted home, dont remove that
[13:29] <zenon> I loved that
[13:30] <qwertz1111> i don't know, does ubuntu uses framebuffered consoles?
[13:30] <sharkmap> my first video game: pong
[13:30] <tjiggi_fo> asdfss, you could try slitaz or puppy linux
[13:30] <qwertz1111> i don't know how to tell if I in native or framebuffer mode
[13:30] <falkonz> iceroot: The problem is that I don't have so much space left on my disk to make cp -r /home/user /home/user.backup
[13:31] <mintman> sharkmap: wow, that was atari 2600.
[13:31] <falkonz> iceroot: and I _just_ would like to disable ecryptfs for this user
[13:31] <iceroot> falkonz: why?
[13:31] <zenon> I remember a cool at the time robocop3 3d game on amiga or commodore
[13:32] <falkonz> iceroot: because this p**** of s*** in my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/YTPq2a8Q
[13:32] <falkonz> ecryptfs is bugged as hell
[13:32] <falkonz> and NOT stable
[13:32] <falkonz> have issues in 11.10 and 10.04 LTS
[13:32] <zenon> pong lol I can't even remember what it was
[13:33] <zenon> digdug
[13:33] <Myrtti> falkonz: even with the asterisks we do know what you said, please mind your language.
[13:33] <iceroot> falkonz: what is not stable about that? crashing?
[13:33] <LjL> look, seriously, take the games discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic please, this channel is just for support
[13:33] <qwertz1111> how to tell f I'm in FRAMEBUFFER or NA>TIVE mode?
[13:34] <asdfss> tried slitaz and puppy linux
[13:34] <iceroot> qwertz1111: ubuntu is using framebuffer on tty per default
[13:34] <andrea86> ciao
[13:34] <falkonz> iceroot: in one of my oneiric installations I've lost all my data on /home because of ecryptfs
[13:34] <iceroot> falkonz: you filled a bug?
[13:34] <falkonz> I've reviewed launchpad
[13:34] <falkonz> this bug was known
[13:34] <iceroot> falkonz: you know the reason why all data are lost?
[13:34] <qwertz1111> ok so how setup resolution of frame buffer?
[13:35] <iceroot> falkonz: can you show me the bug?
[13:35] <falkonz> i just don't remember it right now
[13:35] <falkonz> but you see what I have in dmesg?
[13:35] <iceroot> qwertz1111: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[13:35] <falkonz> and I can't get any fix for that
[13:35] <falkonz> this just sucks
[13:36] <wildc4rd> Good day all, why might I get this error message when trying to update? W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[13:36] <wildc4rd> , W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[13:36] <wildc4rd> , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[13:36] <dr_willis> !find fbset
[13:36] <dr_willis> !info fbset
[13:36] <iceroot> falkonz: maybe this will work (backup is a good idea). make a hardlink from your mounted home to some new dir and remove the old (encrypted) home
[13:36] <qwertz1111> i caanot open weblinks from irsssi, have some consideratio please?
[13:37] <LjL> wildc4rd: that PPA doesn't exist for Oneiric
[13:37] <iceroot> wildc4rd: there is no xmbc package for 11.10 in that ppa
[13:37] <dr_willis> qwertz1111:   You using weechat in X or the console?
[13:37] <falkonz> iceroot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/490005/comments/23
[13:37] <qwertz1111> irssi in console
[13:37] <dr_willis> try the fbset command if you want to change framebuffer settings on the fly
[13:38] <wildc4rd> Ljl, iceroot: this is just using the 'check for updates' should I try something different?
[13:38] <iceroot> falkonz: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/490005  wont fix
[13:38] <LjL> wildc4rd: you should remove that PPA from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ if you want to stop seeing that error
[13:38] <iceroot> falkonz: a duplicate
[13:39] <iceroot> falkonz: comment: I've started on a fix, but will need a bit more time, as this code is fragile and needs improvements outside of this bug.
[13:40] <falkonz> iceroot: when it will be fixed - they will pull new update to lucid?
[13:40] <andrea86> ciao
[13:40] <cmenchion> Hey all, wondering if someone can help me with a video driver.
[13:40] <qwertz1111> fbset says inappropriate ioctl for device
[13:40] <LjL> !it | andrea86
[13:40] <iceroot> falkonz: i guess the fix will be backported, yes
[13:40] <wildc4rd> LjL, sorted thank you.
[13:40] <iceroot> falkonz: because as it seems its a critical bug with datalost
[13:40] <falkonz> iceroot: i guess it will take ages, as this bug is going on from karmic already
[13:41] <ajah> i have the same issue http://askubuntu.com/questions/101308/xorg-segmentation-fault-seems-to-be-relevant-to-evdev can u help me
[13:41] <iceroot> falkonz: reported 09.2011 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ecryptfs-utils/+bug/842647
[13:41] <cmenchion> I have an old Acer Aspire 3610 I installed ubuntu on. says that the graphics is not detected. I downloaded the intel driver but how do I install it
[13:41] <wildc4rd> rofl
[13:41] <wildc4rd> (wrong window, sorry)
[13:42] <falkonz> iceroot: thanks
[13:42] <iceroot> falkonz: but having a backup is ALWAYS a good idea
[13:42]  * qwertz1111 is sad because ubuntu is being made for spherical hardware in vacuum
[13:42] <iceroot> falkonz: no metter if that bug exist or not
[13:42] <cmenchion> noone can help?
[13:43] <falkonz> iceroot: you know, these waterfalls in thailand and earth quakes in japan made HDD so high prices today
[13:43] <iceroot> falkonz: cds, dvds, flash-drives
[13:43] <iceroot> falkonz: ubuntu-one
[13:43] <dragonballz> ciao
[13:44] <dragonballz> !list
[13:44] <iceroot> is that a bot with this "ciao, !list"?
[13:44] <dragonballz> ubottu
[13:44] <mintman> qwertz1111: Are u going to make me pull out my google fu to solve or understand what is the problem with ur install.. Give me the full story on how this machine got this way...
[13:45] <cmenchion> please someone help me to install video driver.
[13:46] <qwertz1111> it always was this way
[13:46] <sharkmap> quit  I'm tired
[13:46] <mstsc>  selling dedicated server any country!!!
[13:46] <sharkmap> goodbye all
[13:46] <Myrtti> cmenchion: you really shouldn't need to download and install a driver for intel stuff...
[13:46] <falkonz> iceroot: I don't remember when last I recorded a cd or dvd... i doubt anyone in era of pendrives and external harddrives still does that
[13:46] <oCean> mstsc: don't advertise in here
[13:46] <qwertz1111> right now i'm pissed because my console in 640x480, 80x25
[13:47] <oCean> qwertz1111: please calm down
[13:47] <cmenchion> humm it says that it doesn't know what video chipset i have
[13:47] <mintman> qwertz1111: fine lspci give me video card
[13:47] <cmenchion> trying to play minecraft, just seeing if a new driver would make it a little smoother
[13:48] <cmenchion> I installed ubuntu last night because winblows is crap tbh
[13:48] <oCean> !misspelling | cmenchion
[13:48] <mintman> qwertz1111: nvida or ati or vesa
[13:49] <qwertz1111> mintman: sis771
[13:49] <mintman> qwertz1111: ok going to work magic be back 5 mics
[13:49] <cmenchion> oh my...
[13:50] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  Are you a first time user of Ubuntu?
[13:50] <mintman> qwertz1111: hey try this link http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-sis-771671-mirage-3-video-drivers-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid.html#more-5591
[13:50] <cmenchion> yes
[13:51] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  What version are you using, and what do you think thus far?  Any questions?
[13:51] <mintman> qwertz1111: looks like the driver is blacklist vga driver
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> sis :(
[13:51] <theadmin> MonkeyDust: ?...
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> my old pc had sis too
[13:52] <cmenchion> Using the newest one. 11.01? I think its pretty good. been navigating around trying to get the feel for it
[13:52] <cmenchion> I do like it
[13:52] <mintman> video card sis or mirage has had problems running in ubuntu since 8.10
[13:53] <Barbariandude> You ubuntu guys are awesome btw, ubuntu introduced me to linux and gave me a relatively safe place to play with things and learn without brutally destroying my install. Now I feel more confident I'm going to Gentoo. Cheers guys :D
[13:53] <cmenchion> only question I have is how do i install video drivers :)
[13:53] <qwertz1111> no, it's ubuntu has had problems
[13:53] <mintman> Barbariandude: wow that is a mighty step hill your climbing good luck
[13:53] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  If you poke around in the settings area you'll find an "Additional Drivers" link.  That should get you on the right track.
[13:54] <milan> ciao
[13:54] <cmenchion> yes I found that..nothing comes up in it...and no where to select a driver to install.
[13:54] <Gentoo64> list
[13:54] <milan> lista
[13:54] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  What kind of card do you have?
[13:54] <cmenchion> err or to navigate to one
[13:54] <mintman> qwertz1111: will agree. But is this the distro you want to run?
[13:55] <milan> shooter
[13:55] <Gentoo64> !list | milan
[13:55] <cmenchion> its a onboard intel 965 i think....its an old acer aspire 3610
[13:56] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  I find that Intel cards usually work out of the box.  Is there something lacking from the graphical functionality?
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> i have intel
[13:57] <cmenchion> it seems laggy compared to when running windows xp
[13:57] <Gentoo64> cmenchion: it will do
[13:57] <Gentoo64> cmenchion: lxde is sort of the same speed as xp
[13:57] <mintman> qwertz1111: try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=958967&page=77
[13:58] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  If you have old hardware, you might want to consider using Lubuntu.  It is an Ubuntu flavour that uses LXDE.
[13:59] <cmenchion> Gentoo64 it doesn't seem like that. using same game (minecraft) I thought would run better in ubuntu runs worse....like everything usually updating drivers help
[13:59] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  I am using it right now in a virtual machine. ;)
[13:59] <cmenchion> ahhh thanks danielsj
[13:59] <cmenchion> I'll check it out
[14:00] <qwertz1111> danieldsj: it will not help
[14:00] <mintman> qwertz1111: this is going to be as close as u get to the reaction as what ur having with this sis 771 card and there solution
[14:00] <mintman> qwertz1111: http://blog.bigsmoke.us/2011/01/18/ubuntu-sis-671-driver
[14:00] <qwertz1111> because lubuntu uses same gnome applications as standard ubuntu
[14:00] <qwertz1111> and gnome services takes same amount of memory
[14:01] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  Using Lubuntu may help with general operating system snappiness, but the Minecraft performance may be due to something else.
[14:01] <Gentoo64> lubuntu will still help in terms of graphics performance
[14:02]  * qwertz1111 goes to reboot
[14:02] <mintman> qwertz1111: good luck :)
[14:02] <cmenchion> well it can't hurt to try
[14:02] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  How are you running Minecraft?  The webpage has some recommendations about memory usage when executing it.
[14:03] <cmenchion> running the java app
[14:03] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  The one in the browser?
[14:03] <cmenchion> no
[14:03] <cmenchion> one i downloaded
[14:03] <delinquentme> does anyone else get weird flickering web pages when browsing youtube or blogger sites w chrome?  im wondering if this is something to do w some weird outlying issue or is related to ubuntu
[14:04] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  Are you using the following command line: java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar minecraft_server.jar nogui.
[14:04] <cmenchion> umm no
[14:04] <cmenchion> I just click the icon/shortcut
[14:05] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  you might want to try that out.  I got the command here: http://www.minecraft.net/download
[14:05] <dr_willis> all else fails.. read the docs eh danieldsj  :)
[14:05] <mintman> cmenchion: ran across another sis 771 that request u to change the xorg.conf to 800x600 that was the best resolution they have.
[14:05] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  It's very possible that the shortcut runs that command anyways, but you might want to try it out just in case.
[14:06] <cmenchion> ok let me try hold one a moment
[14:07] <mintman> that Mirage 671/771 video card is a big problem.  Worse most of the video cards were built in motherboards and laptops...
[14:07] <cmenchion> I'm not runnoing the server though
[14:08] <cloudgeek> any review for from vim hackers
[14:08] <cloudgeek> http://learnhackstuff.blogspot.in/2012/02/vim-as-universal-idepart-1.html
[14:08] <danieldsj> cmenchion: My bad... try this one: java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar net.minecraft.LauncherFrame
[14:08] <cmenchion> lol k
[14:08] <oCean> cloudgeek: wrong channel
[14:08] <cloudgeek> okay sorry but
[14:09] <cloudgeek> is anybody here that is using
[14:09] <oCean> !anyone | cloudgeek
[14:09] <cmenchion> could not find the main class
[14:10] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  poo.
[14:10] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  How about omitting the last bit.... try:  java -Xmx1024M -Xms512M -cp Minecraft.jar
[14:11] <mintman> cloudgeek: what are u getting at we use vi in archlinux for editing scripts. Also used for beta testers to record notes...
[14:11] <DragonSlay> print to file not working in firefox, how can i enable it? (ubuntu 10.04)
[14:13] <cmenchion> k
[14:13] <cmenchion> sorry had a phone call i will try
[14:14] <cmenchion> lol
[14:14] <cmenchion> could not create java virtual machine
[14:15] <danieldsj> cmenchion:  Arg.
[14:15] <andongni> hi guys.  I have a problem with shutting down 11.10 ... the computer can only shut down when I press the power button and select shut down (or restart or whatever),  but when I us the software icon, it doesn't do anything.
[14:15] <cmenchion> yes
[14:16] <cmenchion> i hear ya danieldsj
[14:16] <linusoleander> I'm having some strange problem with my clock on my server machine.
[14:16] <linusoleander> It's about 20% faster than normal. I used date -s "time" to reset it last night, and now it's 3h and 22 min off.
[14:16] <linusoleander> The npt update is turned of as of yesterday – just in case. What can the problem be?
[14:17] <dr_willis> linusoleander:  has it always had this issue?
[14:17] <linusoleander> dr_willis: No, the server has been working perfect for 1.5 years
[14:17] <linusoleander> It appeard 2 days ago
[14:18] <dr_willis> linusoleander:  Strange. - I had a laptop once where the clock ran like at 10x normal speed due a bios bug. but i dont see how that could be your issue.
[14:18] <dr_willis> I coulkd sit and watch the panel clock tick seconds by at 10x normal speed.. :)  made games really really hard..
[14:18] <linusoleander> dr_willis: The first thing to do, if possible, would be to detach from the BIOS clock
[14:18] <linusoleander> dr_willis: Hehe :)
[14:19] <dr_willis> this is a server you have physical access to?
[14:19] <cmenchion> well thanks for ur helo
[14:19] <cmenchion> help
[14:19] <cmenchion> i'll do some more googling
[14:19] <oCean> linusoleander: I've seen strange behaviour on the hw/biosclock (sudo hwclock --show)
[14:19] <mintman> linusoleander: does this pose a problem with what the software the server runs??
[14:20] <linusoleander> mintman: It times out (if that's the correct word) when i'm usig hwclock, tried it last night
[14:20] <linusoleander> The last message was to oCean
[14:20] <linusoleander> mintman: Yes it does, one of my apps is very dependent of the server clock
[14:21] <oCean> linusoleander: hm, weird? Never saw that. Might be related to the issue.
[14:21] <mintman> linusoleander: curious to now if the bios battery is dieing doubt it.
[14:21] <rebe> any way to change sensitivity of brightness controll in ubuntu ?
[14:21] <mintman> linusoleander: ops cmos
[14:22] <linusoleander> mintman: I'll call the maintainer and ask.
[14:22] <antismap> exit
[14:22] <linusoleander> Hold on
[14:23] <linusoleander> They closed 1 hour ago, to bad
[14:24] <mintman> linusoleander: I wouldn't go that route I would go through log files see what the last update was before the clock started out of cycle..
[14:24] <linusoleander> mintman: Update?
[14:25] <dr_willis> could try an older kernel - see if affects the old kernel also.
[14:25] <linusoleander> dr_willis: I can't afford to restart it. I'm hosting applications for 50k visitors every day
[14:26] <dr_willis> have the timeserver correct system time every min. :)
[14:26] <linusoleander> Using ntp?
[14:26] <dr_willis> im out if ideas then.
[14:26] <mintman> linusoleander: hmm.. what is the condition of the room the server is in . I hope not a lot of dust and small and no air conditioning
[14:27] <linusoleander> mintman: I've no idea, it's an VPS
[14:27] <dr_willis> err.. a vps.. id contact the vps provider then.
[14:27] <Mollynezu> :))
[14:27] <dr_willis> could be somthing they updated..
[14:27] <linusoleander> Yes, I tried it 10 min ago, they where closed for today
[14:28] <mintman> linusoleander: hope this doesn't stop business :( or interrupt business
[14:28] <linusoleander> mintman: It does, which isn't so great :(
[14:29] <kiuzuki> any one know how to get back the skype window after minmizing it ? i am using ubuntu 11.10
[14:29] <mintman> linusoleander: not good.  No one on call for tech support?
[14:29] <dr_willis> wonder if theres some vps forum/online support where you could ask if others are having similer issues.
[14:29] <romainvv> someone know how i must organize a source directory to bluid then a package ?
[14:29] <linusoleander> mintman: They closed 1.5 hours ago
[14:30] <linusoleander> I'll try ServerFault.com
[14:31] <linusoleander> Thanks for the help guys
[14:31] <mintman> linusoleander: this is usually when company's look to host on sight servers.... sorry to here the problem
[14:31] <dafox> does anyone know if/where I can find a version of freetype for ubuntu which has the lcdlegacy filter enabled?
[14:34] <Somelauw> What is the most recent verson of ubuntu that I can upgrade to if I don't want unity?
[14:34] <Barbariandude> 10.10 Somelauw, but it's really easy to take unity off of 11.10
[14:34] <Barbariandude> !nounity | Somelauw
[14:34] <oneliner> or go mint
[14:39] <|Long|> hi, i am moving few folders to my external drive, is there a syntax to move multiple folders i have 01-10 folders but only wanted to move from 05-09?
[14:39] <eXp`iRc|37982> ciao
[14:39] <eXp`iRc|37982> !list
[14:39] <cloudgeek> here is proof vim is better then any IDe such as textmate and pydev ,eclispe and emacs soory folks don't PM me
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> the next ciao-list italian has to pay beers for all
[14:40] <|Long|> can someone plz help
[14:41] <mintman> cloudgeek: what? we already now this just ask the thousand of beta testers on Arch Linux.
[14:41] <dr_willis> |Long|:  via bash/command line you mean?
[14:41] <Somelauw> |Long| in evince you can select multiple files
[14:41] <Somelauw> In bash, you'll probably have to use a forloop thing.
[14:42] <dr_willis> |Long|: bash has a regular expression feature to do that.. but i  would just cheat and use 'mc' or some other command line file manager. :)
[14:42] <|Long|> i use ssh preferably cmd like mv
[14:42] <dr_willis> mc is too handy to not know about.
[14:42] <dr_willis> works great over ssh also
[14:42] <Somelauw> dr_willis: ranger is better
[14:42] <Somelauw> much better imo
[14:42] <dr_willis> been using mc for 12+ yrs.. :)  so im not changeing any time soon
[14:42] <|Long|> can i do sudo mv /dir/file1-file9 /destination/file
[14:42] <Somelauw> don't know why it is not available in the software center
[14:43] <dr_willis> |Long|:  bash has some syntax similer to that.. but i dont know it exactly off hand.
[14:43] <dr_willis> dir/file[1-9]  perhaps..
[14:43] <|Long|> let me try that
[14:43] <dr_willis> try echo flile[1-9] as a test.. or just make a simple script that does each move. and run it.
[14:44] <dr_willis> for just 9 items.. maybe quicker to just do a script :)
[14:44] <dr_willis> Im lazy  and always seem to do trivial scripts instead of complex command lines.
[14:44] <rebe> how do I change sensitivity of brightness controll in ubuntu ?
[14:44] <|Long|> dr_willis, that wont work
[14:45] <lucas-arg> i tried to install a kworld ub405-a under linux without success, using linux tv media-build tree... any ideas where else i can find drivers for this card?? ive also checked out the manufacturers web site and even mail them, they told me there is no support for linux, dont know where else to go...
[14:45] <dr_willis> |Long|:  what wont..
[14:45] <mintman> |Long|: mv file1 file2 file3 directory
[14:46] <mintman> |Long|:  link http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/lts0050.html
[14:46] <dr_willis> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/wildcards.html
[14:46] <|Long|> mintman, your method is worked thanks alot
[14:46] <dr_willis> tab completion would work if its just a few dirs/files also.
[14:46] <theadmin> |Long|: foreach $i in {1..9} ; do mv file$i dir ; done
[14:46] <dr_willis> now if you had 8000+ dirs...
[14:47] <theadmin> err
[14:47] <oCean> |Long|: something like  mv /path/to/dir/file0{5..9} /to/this/dir
[14:47] <theadmin> for $i in {1..9} ; do mv file$i dir ; done
[14:47] <dr_willis> Bonus points.. what if you wanted to do every ODD numbered directory. :)
[14:48] <quiescens> extra credit isn't worth the effort
[14:48] <Somelauw> {1..9..2} ?
[14:48] <mintman> |Long|: No big deal any one of use could have figured out this. better thank dr_willis
[14:48] <Somelauw> I am not even sure if {1..9} is inclusive or excluse 9.
[14:49] <oCean> Somelauw: incl
[14:49] <|Long|> dr_willis, thanks to you also
[14:49] <Somelauw> * including, excluding
[14:49] <dr_willis> Ive always followed the methodology of making simple scripts from years past. Ive written scripts to generate the simple scripts years ago. :)
[14:49] <dr_willis> habbits from years ago using sh, and amigas command line.
[14:49] <dr_willis> and REXX
[14:52] <quiescens> and then the scripts start generating scripts that generate scripts
[14:53] <dr_willis> thates PERL.. not Rexx. :)
[14:53] <oCean> let's move on, ok? Or take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:58] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1] Clicking Super-key > epiphany > Epiphany symbol obtains: "Error when opening the file: File or directory not found." How to debug?
[14:59] <ikonia> bullgard4: look at what that shortkey key does, see if the file it's calling is there
[15:00] <mcl0vin> howdy folks , am doing an upgrade from 10.4 to 10.10 using "update-manager" am at the installing the upgrades step and it is stuck in 'about 29 minutes remaining' " preparing ttf-lyx"and i am getting this failed message http://pastebin.com/mCpWMUv4
[15:00] <bullgard4> ikonia: What "shortkey" do you mean?
[15:00] <ikonia> bullgard4: "super-key -> epihany"
[15:01] <ikonia> mcl0vin: that looks like a conflict from a PPA package
[15:01] <ikonia> mcl0vin: I've seen something similar recently with (I think it was) the Gimp PPA
[15:01] <ikonia> mcl0vin: got any PPA's or 3rd party repos enabled ?
[15:01] <AD_> Hi, stuck with installation, can yo help in separate page?
[15:01] <ikonia> AD_: just ask the question
[15:02] <AD_> network cannot connect, been trying for 12 hours now...
[15:02] <mcl0vin> ikonia: i talked about that early in the process and said it will diable 3rd party
[15:02] <AD_> wired, brand new PC
[15:02] <ikonia> AD_: "cannot connect" ?
[15:02] <AD_> NO OS instaslled
[15:02] <bullgard4> ikonia: This is no shortkey. Tthis is the normal GNOME Shell way to call an application program, in my case the application "Epiphany". And indeed, the Epiphany symbol appears.
[15:02] <ikonia> mcl0vin: ahhh but you have had 3rd parties installed ?
[15:02] <ikonia> bullgard4: ok - so look at what that icon links to
[15:03] <AD_> Ubuntu 11.10 64bit from USB
[15:03] <ikonia> bullgard4: or launch it manually and work it through
[15:03] <ikonia> AD_: what are you talking about then, "can't connect" if there is no OS installed
[15:03] <mcl0vin> ikonia: i have Gimp ...and i bleveie i have wine
[15:03] <ikonia> mcl0vin: game over
[15:03] <azariah4> Hi! I only have loopback under ifconfig, but lshw -c network shows the ethernet controller of the motherboard, how can I bring it up so I get a eth0 or eth1 interface?
[15:03] <ikonia> mcl0vin: using those repos will update certain core files
[15:03] <mcl0vin> ikonia: what am dead lol
[15:03] <ikonia> mcl0vin: those will conflict with the upgrade process,
[15:03] <iText> am trying to set an icon to my python application with .desktop file, but the icon when double clicked it momentarily shows the terminal window and disappears, the code pasted here http://paste.pound-python.org/show/16553/
[15:03] <AD_> if you want to install the OS from the USB, second page is asking to connect
[15:03] <mcl0vin> ikonia: what poor me should do now
[15:04] <ikonia> mcl0vin: it's the price of using PPA's that are not well designed or thought through, and it's part of the reasons people don't support PPAs
[15:04] <ikonia> mcl0vin: re-install
[15:04] <ikonia> AD_: I have no idea what you are talking about "asking you to connect"
[15:04] <AD_> connect to the network
[15:04] <andongni> Anyone know why Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't shut down when I select it in the menu, but it does shut down when I use the power button?
[15:04] <ikonia> AD_: you don't need to connect to any network to install, unless you are doing a net install
[15:05] <ikonia> andongni: bad apci support ?
[15:05] <mcl0vin> ikonia: please tell me that the upgrade will continue and when you said reinstall you are talking about gimp and other 3rd party
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> andongni: power button cuts the power, works on any OS.
[15:05] <ikonia> mcl0vin: very doubtful
[15:05] <AD_> Yes, but is should right?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> andongni: do you have network shares mounted?
[15:05] <AD_> it should
[15:05] <ikonia> mcl0vin: PPA's should not be used and people need to take responsability for the PPAs
[15:05] <mcl0vin> ikonia: PPA what do you mean
[15:05] <mcl0vin> !PPA
[15:06] <hroi> hi
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> AD_: just don't select to install updates and junk at install time and you will be fine.
[15:06] <AD_> I am now on the USB Live desktop, I should be able to browse the web, but again, I cannot connect
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> AD_: if your wifi doesn't work out of the box or cannot be made to work then you will be offline for the install process...
[15:07] <tripple-sf> leave
[15:07] <hroi> hi
[15:07] <hroi> has anyone experience with djanog on ubuntu?
[15:07] <andongni> Action: I don't mean if I hold the button for 5 seconds ... if I just tap it, the shut down option box pops up
[15:07] <andongni> (a laptop)
[15:07] <AD_> I am wired, DHCP is set to automatic, it should work, I may install, but then I will be back to square one
[15:08] <hroi> I'm wondering if I can play around with django ,  wihtout embedding it in a webserver?
[15:08] <andongni> Action: I dunno how to check for mounted network shares
[15:08] <AD_> I cannot understand why it does not connect
[15:08] <ikonia> AD_: are you trying to connect to a wireles network ?
[15:08] <AD_> WIred
[15:08] <administrator_> 000
[15:08] <AD_> LAN
[15:08] <ikonia> AD_: what network card is in your machine ?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> andongni: ahh, gotcha. Yes that is also configurable to do other things, yours is set to shutdown. Do you access files on another system over the LAN?
[15:08] <administrator_> y
[15:09] <ikonia> administrator_: if you have a question, please ask it
[15:09] <mcl0vin> ikonia: ok lesson learn, what shall i do now am stuck at this screen "http://screencast.com/t/Qq0Augtqg"
[15:09] <ikonia> mcl0vin: re-install
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> AD_: some wired chips don't work out of the box, there are very few
[15:09] <andongni> Action: nope.  No LAN-based file sharing
[15:09] <AD_> no idea, it is a brand new MB from ASROCK
[15:09] <administrator_> superuser
[15:09] <AD_> AMD processor
[15:09] <mcl0vin> ikonia: re-install what?
[15:09] <administrator_> yes
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> andongni: if you run:  sudo shutdown -h now    does the OS die?
[15:09] <ikonia> mcl0vin: your OS
[15:09] <administrator_> no
[15:10] <mcl0vin> what!!!!
[15:10] <andongni> Action: I guess my logging off will let us know ;)
[15:10] <andongni> be back
[15:10] <administrator__> hi
[15:11] <mcl0vin> ikonia: there got to be a way around it
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> mcl0vin: if you are that far back I'd go for a clean install of Oneiric
[15:11] <ikonia> mcl0vin: no, there isn't
[15:11] <mcl0vin> ikonia: this is a headless box
[15:11] <ubukou> hey folks..
[15:11] <ikonia> mcl0vin: how does that change anything
[15:11] <Alperen> hi i updated ubuntu it want me to restart it so i did it. But when i try to login it cant login. It Throw me to
[15:12] <Alperen> lightdm
[15:12] <mcl0vin> ikonia: reinstall it ... am remote to it
[15:12] <administrator__> why i can't install radio
[15:12] <ikonia> mcl0vin: it's what needs to happen though
[15:12] <ubukou> anyone using lightdm? im having an issue.. when i shut down it save the running programs state.. is that something that happened in GDM too ?
[15:12] <andongni> Action : shutdown: time expected Try `shutdown --help' for more information. andrew@incogitatus:~$
[15:13] <mcl0vin> ActionParsnip: ikonia then i will loose all me data
[15:13] <AD_> ActionParsnip: any way you can help?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> mcl0vin: no, as you will have your data backups
[15:13] <danes> hello, is there any support for fingerprint readers? Do you recommend using one?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> AD_: when you select shutdown and you see the plymouth splash, press ESC so you can watch the shutdown. See where it hangs
[15:14] <auk> My web browsers recognizes my java 7 plugin from Oracle's website. but I can not get those plugins to work.     Especially since I deleted my /home/ user directory to fix the problem of slow LOGOUTS.
[15:14] <auk> How can I fix this?
[15:14] <ikonia> mcl0vin: back up the data you need now while the machine is functioning
[15:14] <bullgard6> ikonia: '~$ epiphany; ** (epiphany-browser:20964): CRITICAL **: load_error_cb: assertion `(error->domain == WEBKIT_NETWORK_ERROR) || (error->domain == WEBKIT_POLICY_ERROR) || (error->domain == WEBKIT_PLUGIN_ERROR)' failed.' --  Is this worth reporting to Launchpad?
[15:14] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, hey man... i got back to XFCE after using KDE for a day.. XFCE is ROCK solid...
[15:14] <ikonia> bullgard6: what version of ubuntu is this ?
[15:14] <therealdongle> hey there, does anyone know: what are the improvements of ubuntu in precise?
[15:14] <auk> It only shows a grey box which loads no java7 contents.
[15:15] <bullgard6> ikonia:  Ubuntu 11.10 GNOME Shell 3.2.1
[15:15] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, i got stuck with LightDM.. have you used it ?
[15:15] <ikonia> bullgard6: I doubt it's a genuine problem as someone would have noticed such a core bit of fucntionality not working, it's more likley a problem with your setup
[15:15] <bullgard6> ikonia: Right.
[15:15] <AD_> ActionParsnip: what do you want to know, there a bunch of stuff hanging
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> auk: did you symlink the java plugin to your browser?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: yeah its default in Precise
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: glad you like it :)
[15:16] <auk> ActionParsnip: Yes. The plugins appears in this "special" browsing page:  about:plugins           and as well in the normal "Web browser preferences & etc".
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> danes: I'd check the HCL to see which work TBH
[15:16]  * mcl0vin ikonia searching for my external 1TB drive
[15:16] <ubukou> ActionParsnip,  its sooooo stable and seems to be usin very little resources...
[15:17] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, thatnks for the recomandation...
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: as I always say; there is more than Gnome
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> auk: does: http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp    work?
[15:17] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, any Login manager to go with it that goes with it well ?
[15:18] <smoove> Is it normal that if I do "gcc myprogram.c -lzmq -lczmq" it complains about a bunch of references, but if I do "gcc -lzmq -lczmq myprogram.c" it works?
[15:18] <auk> ActionParsnip: No. The results is only a grey box where no content loads.
[15:18] <danes> ActionParsnip, Whoa! I appreciate that you want to help but honestly I have no idea what those acronyms mean so I couldn't understand much
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> ubukou: slim is lightweight, if lightdm is working for you then I'd stick with it
[15:18] <ikonia> smoove: yes
[15:18] <AD_> ActionParsnip: I see you are too busy to help. Cheres
[15:18] <ikonia> smoove: the guys in #gcc and ##c can explain how to use the compiler
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> danes: HCL = hardware compatibility list
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> danes: TBH = to be honest
[15:18] <smoove> ikonia, thanks.
[15:19] <smoove> I can't join ##c though and I can't send to #gcc
[15:19] <danes> ActionParsnip, now that makes more sense hehe thanks. Any idea where can I find a list with compatible HW?
[15:19] <Telugodu> hi
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> auk: is your OS 32bit?
[15:19] <Telugodu> i have a serious problem
[15:19] <smoove> how do I make my ubuntu box do identd? I'm behind a firewall
[15:19] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, hmmm i ll search around for its settings then cause it saves the processes running when i shutdown and i cant use XFCE as default desktop enviroment...
[15:19] <ikonia> smoove: you need an ident daemon running
[15:19] <mcl0vin> ikonia: normally i plug my usb drive and it pops up now its not
[15:19] <Telugodu> i installed ati propreitary drivers
[15:20] <ubukou> ActionParsnip, thanks :)
[15:20] <auk> smoove: Register yourself a NickServ user account. Type: /msg NickServ register myPasswordHere<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:20] <ikonia> mcl0vin: possibly because the libraries are all messed up due to the partial upgrade
[15:20] <Telugodu> had some glitches in gnome 3 so tried to uninstall fgrlx and reinstall normal drivers
[15:20] <auk> ActionParsnip: No. This is my 64bit machine. I downloaded oracle's 64bit version of java 7.
[15:20] <xubuntu5> bmbbb
[15:20] <Telugodu> but i get this error
[15:20] <Telugodu> unable to locate package libgl1-mesa-glx:amd64
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> auk: I have a script, you can check what you did with that if you want
[15:21] <Telugodu> now i get a blank screen
[15:21] <Telugodu> please help
[15:21] <mcl0vin> ikonia: true... any suggestions please
[15:21] <auk> ActionParsnip: Ah sure, I'll make use of it.
[15:21] <frybye> Hi - I have 11.10 running on the on-board ATI 3000 Graphics - but if it fit in the gt240 card the screen is a mess and I dont know how to switch to the nvidia drivers I have installed...?
[15:21] <ikonia> mcl0vin: try to manually mount it,
[15:21] <ikonia> mcl0vin: copy the data off over the network
[15:21] <xubuntu5> hey!
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> auk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/828926/
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> auk: its pretty simple really
[15:23] <frybye> - put differently.. is there a way to specify what video driver to us during the boot process...?
[15:23] <danes> I plan to buy a usb fingerprint reader to use it with ubuntu. Anyone has suggestions as which brand may be convinient?
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | danes
[15:23] <ikonia> danes: research linux compatible devices,
[15:23] <frybye> danes.. most work afasik
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you can blacklist drivers to force the OS to load a specific one, or you can use an xorg.conf file
[15:24] <ikonia> danes: also check at what kernel level they are supported at to make sure the ubuntu version you want to use is at that level
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> auk: I use chromium browser too, hence the symlink
[15:25] <auk> Yea I noticed.
[15:25] <frybye> so the pc is running with the ati 3000 onboard now - and if I edit xorg.config - fit the gt240 card in - it will then use the corrected xorg.conf?
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> frybye: do you want to use both video cards?
[15:26] <frybye> eh - or wont the changed xorg.conf take immediate effect or .. hmm.. me with limited knwledge again..
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> frybye: the xorg.conf will need manually editting
[15:26] <frybye> ActionParsnip: no I am happy with just the gt240 - which is much better than the 3000
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> frybye: then disable the onboard card in BIOS and set the primary display to the pci express
[15:27] <_Ethan_> for a remote control of a pc by using LAN, what would you recommend me ? any software?
[15:27] <jack1> what up fools
[15:27] <jack1> WHAST HAPPENING
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: what are you controlling it to achieve?
[15:27] <jack1> YO YO
[15:27] <FloodBot1> jack1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:28] <jack1> Floodbot is on
[15:28] <ikonia> jack1: hi, you may want to check the channels topic
[15:28] <ikonia> !guidelines > jack1
[15:28] <frybye> ActionParsnip: If I past my xorg.conf - could you fix it for me...? In the bios there is only a setting wich switches the priorities of 4 different listingy of integrated grafic - but I see nowhere to switch it off...?
[15:28] <ikonia> jack1: also you may want to check how to interact in the channels, ubottu has just sent you a pm with a link to guide you
[15:28] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip im planning to mount a pc without screen and keyboard, in a small room, and control it from my bedroom by using a remote connection.
[15:28] <jack1> no wackers
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: yes but to achieve what end?
[15:28] <basti> list
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> frybye: the nvidia-xconfig    command will make you an xorg.conf   file.
[15:29] <_Ethan_> i dont want to have the tower with the fan (very noisy) in my room.
[15:29] <ikonia> basti: no
[15:29] <ikonia> not here
[15:29] <_Ethan_> and i dont have a flat screen , so i prefer to control it remotely, it is a old amd athlon
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: so the client system is more like a thin client
[15:30] <frybye> ActionParsnip: even with the gt240 card not physically present??? If I put it in the pc automatically tries to use it and makes a mess of the screen?
[15:30] <_Ethan_> i thought about teamviewer
[15:30] <_Ethan_> but i think it has to connect to the teamviewer's servers
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> frybye: you may need the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[15:30] <frybye> ActionParsnip: thanks for all the help so far...
[15:30] <_Ethan_> and i cannot have LAN speed
[15:30] <_Ethan_> in that case
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: but what activities are you doing on the remote system?
[15:30] <_Ethan_> just storing and maybe running torrent
[15:31] <frybye> ActionParsnip: how to I get to use a boot option - interrupt the boot process with what key?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> frybye: hold shift and you can add it there by pressing E on the kernel
[15:31] <_Ethan_> and well, who knows, freaking with mame could be a choice too :P
[15:31] <n1c0-nuX> Hello, i'm looking for a good ubuntu video screen capture log... Who can help me ?
[15:31] <_Ethan_> (mame is the multiple arcade program)
[15:31] <bullgard6> '~$ gunzip /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz;  gzip: /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz: Too many levels of symbolic links' --  How to deal with this?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: gaming over LAN like that isn't going to be terribly effective
[15:32] <_Ethan_> ok, np
[15:32] <_Ethan_> its not my primary goal
[15:32] <_Ethan_> my goal is to access and control it from another pc in my lan
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: most stuff you can manae with web UIs and SSH (X forwarding as well as file serving)
[15:32] <frybye> ActionParsnip:  let me get this right - I psychically fit the gt240 card.. then boot the system to the ati 3000 by using nouveau.blacklist=1 and then use the nvidia-xconfig or ..?
[15:32] <_Ethan_> i really would like to install both windows and ubuntu
[15:32] <Franky> I have a question. I just recently downloaded Ubuntu (through a USB) and it took up 37 GB of space. I then got XFCE yesterday since I have an old computer. I'm trying to update things but it says I only have 2.5GB left. Is there a way I can gain more?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: you haven't said what you will be doing on the server, just that you want to access it....
[15:33] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip what i want to do is exactly what teamviewer does
[15:33] <Culiforge> is jrib around?
[15:33] <frybye> aitch - now I have it - I do the nvidia-xconfig now - and then add the gt240 and boot to that...
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: once more...Why do you want to connect? What will you do once connected to the remote system? What is the purpose of connecting to the remote system?
[15:34] <holstein> Franky: delete things... you can purge whatever you are not using... an instal should *not* take 37GB's, thats likely your data
[15:34] <mcl0vin> ikonia: is there a way i can have a list of all pkgs i have so that i can reinstall them after fresh install
[15:34] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip i will for example download files
[15:34] <zzecool> 37 gb install ????
[15:34] <zzecool> omg
[15:34] <zzecool> lol
[15:34] <_Ethan_> to my laptop from that pc
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: dowload, like torrents?
[15:34] <_Ethan_> yes
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: you don't need teamviewer for that
[15:35] <_Ethan_> or videos, etc
[15:35] <Franky> Holstein:  tried that but I just got this yesterday. I don't have anything to delete. lol.
[15:35] <_Ethan_> yes that's why im looking for another choice :D
[15:35] <_Ethan_> or running Matlab, Octave
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: you can use the webui in transmission to manage torrents, you can then use samba or sftp to share your file system
[15:35] <Somelauw> Hi, is it safe to enable vt-x in my bios? Is there a reason this setting is enabled by default?
[15:35] <Somelauw> virtualbox seems to require this change
[15:36] <holstein> Franky: then you will just need to tolerate it, delete things, or mount the hard drive live and consider resizing partitions, though i would not do that without having aeverything backedup
[15:36] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip ok
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: isn't octave ran in a terminal?
[15:36] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip yes
[15:37] <_Ethan_> it is
[15:37] <Franky> holstein: poohey. Is their any way I can downsize the amount of space it takes Ubuntu to run? All I know is yesterday it said it would use 37GB of my space during the installation.
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: so you can use putty or ssh in a terminal and connect, makes no sense to see the whole screen when you are just going to open a terminal
[15:37] <zzecool> Franky: there is something wrong with your installation
[15:37] <mcl0vin> i remember Debian had a way that you can mirror all your pkgs back to the new install
[15:37] <zzecool> something terribly wrong
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: this is WHY I ask what people are doing as soon as they start chatting about teamviewer etc, a LOT of the time its not needed..
[15:38] <Franky> zzecool: I downloaded linux from a USB using Linux Pendrive (I think that's what the program is called)
[15:38] <Culiforge> was chatting with jrib earlier about fixing a boot problem.. upon his advice I chroot'd to the not booting install but don't know what to do from there
[15:38] <zzecool> Run system-monitor
[15:38] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip
[15:38] <frybye> ActionParsnip: nvidia-xconfig ... "command not found...??"
[15:38] <zzecool> and check the last tab
[15:39] <_Ethan_> teamviewer is really easy to install
[15:39] <zzecool> to see where is all this space
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: running just the SSH terminal will use a lot less resources
[15:39] <wessel> How can I move the top "system" bar to below
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: easier than:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server       I doubt it heavily
[15:39] <zzecool> wessel: you cant
[15:39]  * Aha2Y wants Ubuntu on smartphone!!!
[15:39] <Franky> zzecool: Is system monitor in the settings menu?
[15:39] <wessel> What you mean you can't?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Aha2Y: omgubuntu have some mock ups.
[15:40] <pk__> Aha2Y: bad idea, i would say
[15:40] <zzecool> open the dash and type system
[15:40] <wessel> I just did an update, it used to always at the bottom of my screen
[15:40] <Aha2Y> Why Bad?
[15:40] <_Ethan_> ActionParsnip yes
[15:40] <zzecool> it gonna reveal him self
[15:40] <Aha2Y> Wouldn't it be awesome?
[15:40] <Aha2Y> Having ubuntu on your phone
[15:40] <_Ethan_> click on an icon and voila!
[15:40] <holstein> Franky: ubuntu has never taken that much for me.. are you sure this is ubuntu? and not something ubuntu based?
[15:40] <Aha2Y> Just needs a bigger screen and CPU
[15:40] <_Ethan_> Aha2Y that's android :)
[15:40] <Aha2Y> Noway.
[15:40] <frybye> ActionParsnip: what packets have to be installed for    nvidia-xconfig to function?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: still needs to download a deb, openssh is a command, no web browsing needed
[15:41] <Aha2Y> Ubuntu needs to replace Android!
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> frybye: nvidia-current
[15:41] <pk__> Aha2Y: what is the difference
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Aha2Y: no way, android rocks
[15:41] <pk__> both are linux
[15:41] <Aha2Y> Android is slow :(
[15:41] <Aha2Y> But ubuntu haz unity :P
[15:41] <holstein> Franky: i would download the iso directly from http://www.ubuntu.com/ ...come here *before* downloading/installing and ask about what you want to do
[15:41] <rlrosa> sed
[15:41] <Aha2Y> a phone that acts more like a computer than some computers
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> Aha2Y: use golauncher, flys on my GT540
[15:41] <Franky> holstein: This is ubuntu. I downloaded it from a Linux site. Actually, from cnet.com because I was following directions on how to download it to a USB. Currently I have XFCE. Would uninstalling other enviroments help?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> _Ethan_: in short you don't need the full desktop in any way. You can do your octave stuff via ssh which will be faster and use fewer resources
[15:42] <holstein> Franky: good luck ! ...i routinely run ubuntu on 8gb virtual hard drives
[15:42] <Aha2Y> I have a GT-I5800 and android is slow ass hell.
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> Aha2Y: try golauncher ex
[15:42] <Aha2Y> With a apt market
[15:42] <Aha2Y> Lol golaunched :P
[15:42] <holstein> Franky: you could have downloaded a customized version of ubuntu from somewhere else
[15:42] <Aha2Y> You are funny.
[15:43] <holstein> Franky: you dont "download it to USB'
[15:43] <holstein> if you would like to make a bootable USB stick, that can be done with the normal iso that i suggest you download from http://www.ubuntu.com/
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> Aha2Y: try it, its smooth
[15:43] <wessel> Is it really impossible to move the position of the "email/sound/clock/user bar" ?
[15:43] <Aha2Y> ActionParsnip, I have
[15:43] <Franky> holstein: I made my USB a boot device to download Ubuntu on to so I didn't need to buy the boot disk.
[15:43] <Aha2Y> My phone is just SLOW.
[15:44] <holstein> Franky: im not suggesting you purchase anything
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> wessel: depends which desktop :)
[15:44] <bullgard6> '~$ gunzip /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz;  gzip: /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz: Too many levels of symbolic links' --  How to deal with this?
[15:44] <holstein> Franky: im suggesting that the fact you have a 30+gb installation, i suspect you have downloaded *not* the normal ubuntu
[15:44] <wessel> I just did an update, I don't think my desktop changed
[15:44] <wessel> What is desktop?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> wessel: do you use Unity?
[15:45] <holstein> Franky: if that is a customized installation disk, who knows what is on it, and you would need to refer to the creator (cnet, or whoever) to ask what is ther and why
[15:45] <wessel> Probably
[15:45] <xubuntu5> anyone here use centerim?
[15:45] <holstein> Franky: i would be comfortable with 6 or 8gb's to run ubuntu on
[15:45] <wessel> How do I check?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> wessel: application bar on the left?
[15:45] <wessel> Yes
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> wessel: thats unity on gnome desktop
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> wessel: I'm not sure it can be moved but I've not used unity a lot
[15:46] <holstein> Franky: you dont purchase the iso from http://www.ubuntu.com/ ,its just the *official* download, instead of what i am alleging as a custom one
[15:46] <Franky> holstein: Oh. :( So there is a way to download an OS (in my case Ubuntu XFCE) directly to my comp.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> wessel: you could install xfce4 and use that as yourdesktop and it will look like Gnome2
[15:46] <wessel> Well I keep turning off my machine when I want to close an application, because the turn off machine is in the top right corner
[15:46] <xubuntu5> xubuntu has xfce in it
[15:46] <holstein> Franky: xubuntu is what you would want for XFCE and ubuntu
[15:46] <wessel> where the [x] button of a window used to be
[15:46] <xubuntu5> xubuntu is awesome :)
[15:46] <mgaunard_> are there repositories where I can find more recent builds of the kernel?
[15:46] <holstein> Franky: again that will take up about 5 or 6 gb's stock
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> you can install xfce4 on Ubuntu or Kubuntu and it will be an option at login
[15:47] <holstein> http://xubuntu.org/
[15:47] <Franky> holstein: OH! THAT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING :) Thank you :) I accidentally downloaded both Ubuntu and Xubuntu. Is there a way I can uninstall Ubuntu?
[15:47] <holstein> Franky: you dont purchase the iso from there ^^ its free... you just know its the official iso
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> so no need to install a new ubuntu, just install the package you need
[15:47] <holstein> Franky: sure, but that wont get you 30GB"s extra
[15:48] <Franky> holstein: I know but it'll help a little. So how do I uninstall Ubuntu and keep my Xubuntu and XFCE
[15:48] <frybye> ActionParsnip: I have installed   nvidia-current   but nvidia-xconfig   is still not being found??? sorry...
[15:48] <auk> ActionParsnip: Thank you so much for that script, I was able to install my 64bit version of that java. :D
[15:48] <holstein> Franky: if you have 30+gb's, you can uninstall a lot ...but i dont know what you have, and you'll just need to search blindly through the packages... OR, just install the official xubuntu
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> auk: nice, just tweak the script huh ;)
[15:49] <wessel> ActionParsnip, can you give me some keywords, I would like to change the unity "desktop layout" but I'm not sure what is the proper naming
[15:49] <wessel> Like how is the top "bar" called?
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> frybye: its installed with the nvidia-current package, what is the output of:   lsb_release -sc
[15:49] <holstein> Franky: you can search in a package manager for ubuntu-desktop for example, but that is *not* going to free up 30GB's
[15:49] <Franky> holstein: Oh okay gotcha. I got Xubuntu from my cousin yesterday. He gave me a code to type into a terminal. It then downloaded xubuntu for me. Do you want me to show you the code?
[15:49] <frybye> ActionParsnip: oneric
[15:49] <holstein> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[15:49] <xubuntu5> you can do that?
[15:49] <frybye> e e e oneiric
[15:50] <xubuntu5> wasn't and that installs it on top of ubuntu??
[15:50] <holstein> Franky: something like that but thats *not* 30gb's of stuff
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> wessel: try:   edit unity top bar
[15:50] <xubuntu5> anyone try cinnamon??
[15:50] <andreas_> can anyone tell me how to convince linux to  use my docking station's dvi and displayport interfaces? so far only vga and lvds1 are shown in xrandr :(
[15:50] <holstein> Franky: i have to run... i suggest you get an offical iso and start over, but if you want to manually go through a package manger and search, im sure someone will help you get closer to a stock install :) ... enjoy!
[15:50] <jemt> Hi. Are php/text files "tagged" with a specific encoding, or is the encoding given by the characters used in the document? If the latter is the case, how does programs determine what charset to use to interpret the content? Trial and error ?
[15:50] <xubuntu5> andreas_: try rstarting with them connecting and then checking what xrandr says it's the only way i can get my comp to recognize my hdmi connection :( i have to restart with the hdmi connected and on
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> frybye: http://paste.ubuntu.com/828955/
[15:51] <Franky> holstein: Thank you for your help
[15:51] <jemt> I ask because gEdit saves files as UTF-8 by default, which is a pain in the ass. I just want to know if it is actually a problem
[15:52] <usalabs_> hi all, for some reason my list of key servers in seahorse (ie passwords and encryption) and I can't sync any keys for backs,,, what are the defaults listed?
[15:52] <usalabs_> the list is empty
[15:52] <Franky> Does anyone know how to manually uninstall Ubuntu from a computer. I want to keep Xubuntu and XFCE I just want Ubuntu gone since it slows my PC down due to the graphics
[15:52] <MrKeuner> hello, trying to create a desktop launcher by editing a file. Although I create all the entries in a launcher, it doesn't work: icon set in [Desktop Entry] does not show up and double clicking the launcher gives an error: Untrusted application launcher. How can I do this properly?
[15:53] <frybye> ActionParsnip: does that mean that nvidia-xcofig does not work with 11.10? If so what do i do then?
[15:53] <ericus> What does SATA powerlink management do, and can I enable it with an SSD disk?
[15:53] <ericus> to save power on my netbook
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> frybye: its in the nvidia-current package
[15:54] <krazed> What's the quickest way to upgrade from 10.04LTS to 11.10
[15:54] <theadmin> krazed: Reinstall. Or wait for 12.04, then you can upgrade directly (lts to lts)
[15:54] <reina01> !list
[15:54] <Franky> I have Ubuntu 11.10 and I want it off of my computer (I also have Xubuntu and XFCE so I won't be without an OS)since in slows my comp. sown
[15:54] <Franky> down*
[15:55] <frybye> sorry I looked at that past.ubuntu etc etc.. and there is something about " No LSB modules are available." is that why the command cant be found or I dont understand?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> frybye: could try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-update; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[15:55] <krazed> theadmin, alright thanks. I'm showing support for my laptop's video card within 11.10 but I can't get it to work with 10.04, I would prefer to stay with 10.04 but I can't figure out how to get the video working.
[15:55] <Franky> anyone here?
[15:55] <frybye> nvidia-current is installed in synaptic - with a few other nvidia drivers I tried.. is -that_ the problem?
[15:55] <karel_ff>  libfreetype6-dev : Depends: libfreetype6 (= 2.4.4-2ubuntu1) but 2.4.4-2ubuntu1.1 is to be installed. Any ideas?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> FrankLv: you can have both installed, only one desktop will run, the rest will only take up drive space. They don't run at the same time
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> karel_ff: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:56] <bullgard6> '~$ gunzip /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz;  gzip: /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser.1.gz: Too many levels of symbolic links' --  How to deal with this?
[15:56] <karel_ff> Sorry, running oneiric
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> karel_ff: what is causing the error?
[15:56] <Franky> ActionParsnip: I know but I want Ubuntu off of my computer. I want to keep Xubuntu though (I have that along with ubuntu). Is there a way I can do this?
[15:57] <karel_ff> apt-get install libfree6-dev
[15:57] <mk> hii