[00:00] <phillw> thanks. I always state that if some one has an un-loved bug, to give me a poke.... just bad luck that it is two in as many days :)
[00:00] <penguin42> phillw: There's something interesting about winding back in the bug index a few 10000 and having a look - sometimes find old bugs that are still relevant
[00:03] <TheLordOfTime> phillw: bugs deserve love like everything does.
[00:03] <TheLordOfTime> phillw: we don't mind giving bugs our attention :)
[00:03] <TheLordOfTime> (that IS one of our jobs anyways)
[00:04] <TheLordOfTime> the only reason I don't help you out on everything is I make it a personal habit to avoid certain bugs
[00:04] <TheLordOfTime> ... like kernel / driver bugs.
[00:04] <phillw> penguin42: I've been a "victim" of a bug that kept expiring for a 3G device. two whole cycles it was dropped from. but, it did come back. So, yes, looking back into the archives can be helpful. I'm only a tester with somewhat limited knowledge of bugs. If a dev gets hold of one, I'll test whatever they ask :) e.g. bug 1227202
[00:04] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1227202 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "Unexpected freezes Saucy" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227202
[00:07] <phillw> TheLordOfTime: you have no disagreement with me, each bug is the most important bug in the world for the reporter. But, if I have a tester available as the reporter; we stand a better chance of getting to the cause.
[00:08] <TheLordOfTime> true.
[00:08] <penguin42> phillw: You sometimes get lucky and find there's a whole mine of similar bugs
[00:11] <phillw> TheLordOfTime: you can chat to eagles without disclosing your direct link to this team :) But, he knows enough to be able to provide full logs to a bug. One of the annoying things with some bugs is that we cannot replicate them.
[00:12] <TheLordOfTime> phillw: ... eagles knows i'm bugsquad...
[00:12] <TheLordOfTime> at least half of ask ubuntu knows too :/
[00:12] <TheLordOfTime> its not like its private knowledge either, its there on my LP profile too :)
[00:13] <phillw> TheLordOfTime: I did not want to volunteer that info on my channel, it is off-off-topic :D
[00:13] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[00:18] <penguin42> that's what site:launchpad.net is for in google :-)
[00:19] <TheLordOfTime> heh
[00:19] <TheLordOfTime> phillw: i don't care if you tell people i'm on bugsquad
[00:19] <TheLordOfTime> i have a nice little thing called a "to do list"
[00:19] <TheLordOfTime> important bug stuff is higher up on the list (nginx)
[00:19] <TheLordOfTime> less important stuff is lower on the list
[00:19] <TheLordOfTime> ... which reminds me, updating the nginx ppas is higher up on my list than all bugs >.>
[00:21] <phillw> TheLordOfTime: if the people on this team do not mind me popping in now and again to ask on a bug, then I'm okay.
[00:22] <phillw> but I now feel happy to pass the 'is it a bug, or not' to you to call :P
[00:22] <TheLordOfTime> I have no objection to it...
[00:22] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42: any objection to phillw popping in every now and then asking about bug stuff?
[00:23] <TheLordOfTime> because i see no reason why it'd be a problem
[00:26] <penguin42> hell no, that's what this channel is for IMHO
[00:26] <penguin42> phillw: Feel free
[00:29] <phillw> penguin42: thanks, I do hope not to be here to often, but I am a tester and people do 'chat' to me :)
[09:24] <allu2> dlayout is wrong despite what the keyboard layout indicator says, problem is fixed by going to the indicator again and selecting the layout it claims to be in use again. How I find if this is already reported and where I should report it?
[09:25] <allu2> and where did irssi just lost the beginning of that message :/
[09:25] <allu2> Hey I have a bug where the default keyboar
[09:25] <allu2> was the beginning.. odd
[13:33] <sreedevi> Hello, I am working on a minor bug in launchpad, I submitted a proposal to merge my branch to the main branch. This is pending for review, Could anyone please help me with this?
[13:49] <allu2> sreedevi: my experience for today in here is that shi channel seems awully dead when it comes to activity :/
[13:49] <allu2> this*
[13:52] <sreedevi> allu2: :(
[19:24] <hggdh> allu2: patience is needed :-)
[19:24] <hggdh> allu2: can you give us a bit more of details? Like what version of Ubuntu, which flavour, etc?
[22:11] <TheLordOfTime> bdmurray: ping, if you're not busy
[22:15] <bdmurray> TheLordOfTime: hey
[22:15] <TheLordOfTime> bdmurray: Mind if I pick your brain for your opinions on the whole thing suggested by AG?
[22:16] <TheLordOfTime> there seem to now be two semi-identical-but-disjointed threads on it (in my email inbox)
[22:16] <TheLordOfTime> and i'm wondering what your opinions as the "god of all bugs" are about his proposed "changes"
[22:16] <TheLordOfTime> (I'm still fully against them)
[22:17] <TheLordOfTime> (also, saw your message in the threads, thought I'd try my luck and ping you to see if you were here to actually discuss it a little xD)
[22:19] <bdmurray> I'm reading it now
[22:20] <TheLordOfTime> yep google just pushed through your latest email on it now.
[22:23] <TheLordOfTime> bdmurray: and i hope you don't mind me pulling you away from whatever else you're working on to look at this, it's something that i wanted your input on since day one :)
[22:23] <TheLordOfTime> bdmurray: also looking for your opinions about the proposed bugsquad/qa merger, but as you're registered as attending the UDS session i assume i'll see your discussionpoints there
[22:24] <TheLordOfTime> (I'm going to try and be there as well)
[22:32] <bdmurray> TheLordOfTime: did you have a specific question?
[22:33] <TheLordOfTime> bdmurray: nope, your latest email answered them.
[22:33] <TheLordOfTime> s/them/the questions i had/
[22:33] <TheLordOfTime> the question i had was your general opinion though, for or against the merger
[22:33] <bdmurray> okay
[22:33] <TheLordOfTime> but i'm pretty certain that these things'll all end up being discussed at vUDS
[22:33] <TheLordOfTime> or as discussion points on the blueprint's whiteboard
[22:34] <TheLordOfTime> (for the QA/bugsquad proposed merger)
[22:34] <bdmurray> I'm not sure what balloons has in mind for the merger but I think having the bug squad team under / a part of the QA team makes sense
[22:34] <bdmurray> but it should still be a distinct team in LP
[22:34] <TheLordOfTime> that's what I think is what's going to happen
[22:35] <TheLordOfTime> I agree
[22:35] <TheLordOfTime> bdmurray: i have a general idea of what balloons is proposing because i was... around... since it was proposed
[22:35] <TheLordOfTime> basically, new or specific "Triager" role under the QA team, of which all bugsquad members would have, which is distinctly different than tester roles and some other roles
[22:35] <bdmurray> right, I read all that
[22:36] <TheLordOfTime> i am assuming balloons will elaborate on their idea as vUDS approaches...
[22:36] <TheLordOfTime> and during the vUDS session
[22:37] <hggdh> bdmurray: one additional point (still setting up new laptop, could not answer on ML) -- I think we should move -bugs to under -quality
[22:37] <bdmurray> hggdh: the irc channel?
[22:37] <hggdh> bdmurray: indeed
[22:37]  * TheLordOfTime has a concern about that
[22:37] <bdmurray> or the mailing list?
[22:37] <hggdh> either and/or
[22:38] <TheLordOfTime> in -quality, a lot of the discussion that happens is about the ISO tests or the autotests and such... if we also bring bug discussion under there it might get lost in the universe
[22:38] <TheLordOfTime> (the IRC channels are what i was discussing)
[22:38] <hggdh> I also wonder about that...
[22:38] <TheLordOfTime> s/universe/discussions/
[22:39] <bdmurray> TheLordOfTime: if you could look at irc logs and see how chatty that channel is and have it for the blueprint that might help
[22:39] <bdmurray> help us make an informed decision
[22:39] <hggdh> +1
[22:39] <TheLordOfTime> bdmurray: i can grab you today's logs, if you want further, I'll have to get approval to drop a logbot into -quality...
[22:40] <TheLordOfTime> then pull that bot's private logs
[22:40] <TheLordOfTime> (I already do this for #Ubuntu and #ubuntu-server with op permission to supplement my ZNC logs...)
[22:40] <hggdh> TheLordOfTime: huh? the channel is not currently logged?
[22:40] <TheLordOfTime> and by today's logs as of 12:00 local
[22:40] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh: i don't know, is it?
[22:40] <TheLordOfTime> i didn't see it when i was scanning the irclogs site
[22:40] <TheLordOfTime> (just like this channel isn't logged)
[22:40] <hggdh> yes, it is, ubuntulog2
[22:41] <TheLordOfTime> oh there it is
[22:41] <hggdh> and here we have ubuntulog_
[22:41] <TheLordOfTime> huh
[22:41] <bdmurray> http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/10/15/
[22:41] <TheLordOfTime> hggdh: you know what,#ubuntu-bugs didn't show earlier o.O
[22:41] <TheLordOfTime> i wonder if chrome or ffox had a hiccup
[22:41] <TheLordOfTime> i'll take a look
[22:41] <TheLordOfTime> but there's a decent bit of activity there
[22:42] <TheLordOfTime> compared to here
[22:42] <hggdh> indeed, but not, I think, excessive
[22:42] <TheLordOfTime> i'll add it to the whiteboard as one concern
[22:42] <hggdh> (a few hundred lines today)
[22:43] <TheLordOfTime> since we were all invited to add our concerns and questions
[22:43] <bdmurray> I posted the 15th since it is probably most busy that week
[22:44] <hggdh> yes, but still just a few hundred lines
[22:45] <bdmurray> Is that one comment every 10 minutes or a bunch in one hour?
[22:45] <bdmurray> We need data!
[22:46] <bdmurray> ;-)
[22:46] <hggdh> heh. I who who has *all* the data you might want ;-)
[22:46] <hggdh> and some more
[22:47] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[22:48] <TheLordOfTime> i do know that closer to release time, -quality is abuzz with stuff...
[22:48] <TheLordOfTime> but that makes sense because of ISO testing stuff and the autotests and such
[22:48] <hggdh> yeah
[22:48]  * hggdh prepares for commute
[22:51] <TheLordOfTime> bdmurray: i support the bugsquad being pulled under QA, but I think Bug Control needs to remain separate, at least for now, what with the whole elevated-permissions thing.  not sure what you think about that, but that would ultimately be a call you'd have to help make...
[22:51] <TheLordOfTime> (if bugcontrol was going to be merged under QA, and based on what I've gathered so far the idea was to leave bugcontrol alone during this)
[22:51] <TheLordOfTime> (so that's not as much of a concern, but I want to make sure that's still the case)


[17:50] <karolherbst> please backport https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/74479a99ecf18fdfdafd033b5efd8d785dd12c28 to 18.04 or either not default to modesetting for all drivers
[17:55] <tjaalton> missing context
[17:55] <karolherbst> xorg crashes on out of VRAM with nouveau
[17:56] <karolherbst> but it's a glamor bug all along
[17:56] <karolherbst> we have some bug reports on that one
[17:56] <karolherbst> eg this one: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110500
[17:57] <tjaalton> ok
[17:58] <karolherbst> thanks
[18:01] <tjaalton> that commit is a month old, so every version is affected
[18:02] <karolherbst> yeah, probably
[18:04] <karolherbst> tjaalton: actually, 16.04 should be fine as it doesn't force the mdoesetting DDX, but everything newer should be. I think other drivers might run into that issue as well, allthough they should have better handling of out of memory situations
[18:07] <tjaalton> karolherbst: right, at this point i'm mostly concerned about 19.04 and -hwe-18.04
[18:08] <tjaalton> and if there's noone on launchpad who can reproduce it, there's not much hope getting that through to updates
[18:11] <karolherbst> I see. Allthough I imagine that should be fairly easy to reproduce on given hardware. I would be only able to check that on Monday the earliest. And even then I would have to setup a machine with ubuntu on it. :/
[18:15] <karolherbst> tjaalton: I found this debian bug report, which seems essentially to be the same issue: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=910075
[18:26] <tjaalton> the patch to use modesetting on geforce is from fedora btw
[18:27] <tjaalton> gf8 and up
[18:29] <karolherbst> yeah, I know
[18:29] <tjaalton> stock 18.04 didn't have it, only 18.10 and up plus 18.04.2 with hwe backport
[18:30] <karolherbst> ohh, interesting
[18:30] <tjaalton> so perhaps only testing on 19.04 would be enough, then silently include it in the next backport
[18:30] <karolherbst> I am not entirely sure it's a good idea to force enable it and it might make sense to have a simplier way to switch the ddx
[18:31] <karolherbst> but I kind of see the general issue with X here :/


[13:34] <mup> Bug #1781598 opened: [2.4] Subnets tab is too slow <performance> <MAAS:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1781598>
[18:33] <xygnal_> roaksoax:   it seems the built-in centos images are not having this problem with finishing deployment, but our custom ones are.
[18:33] <xygnal_> what curtin version is needed for 2.4, and has anything in curtin changed that requires us to change *our* custom userdata file?
[18:38] <xygnal_> roaksoax: one of the problem we saw was that it was runing yum commands in the chroot installer, and stalling.  would UI proxy settings cause those to go through the squid proxy?
[19:03] <roaksoax> xygnal_: iirc, we dont sent any rpm specific config when deploying centos
[21:05] <mup> Bug #1781662 opened: [2.5] Unable to upgrade from 2.5 when apache2 is already installed <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1781662>
[21:44] <mup> Bug #1781666 opened: [2.5] Rack controller install leaves nginx running on <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1781666>


[04:07]  * dool7 joins #opensourcemusicians
[14:03] <CherryPuffs> Good morning. I noticed that a process called grub-mount /<dir>/<location>/os-probe was taking up all my memory just now
[14:03] <CherryPuffs> What does that do? Is it normal for grub-related programs to be running after boot?
[14:06] <sakrecoer> CherryPuffs: I'm not too keen on those processes... but it shouldn't take up _all_ your memory...
[14:06] <sakrecoer> since it is directly related to ubuntu, if you don't get a proper answer here, you can also try joining #ubuntu and ask there...
[14:06] <CherryPuffs> sakrecoer, my thoughts exactly! I updated Firefox just now... was browsing over there
[14:06] <CherryPuffs> OK, I'll ask that in #ubuntu. Thanks! :)
[14:07] <sakrecoer> np! best of luck CherryPuffs !
[14:07] <sakrecoer> feel free to hang around however, (obviously :) )
[14:07] <CherryPuffs> hahahhaha
[14:08] <CherryPuffs> But this is the help channel, right? Is off-topic chat allowed here?
[14:10] <sakrecoer> CherryPuffs: general creativity chatter is allowed here :)
[14:11] <CherryPuffs> :D
[14:11] <sakrecoer> encouraged maybe even :) the channel would feel good about some activity :)


[00:18] <jrwren> rick_h_: do you have equipment to process raw wood?
[00:18] <rick_h_> jrwren: yes
[00:18] <rick_h_> jrwren: what do you need?
[00:18] <jrwren> I have a small piece of apple which I cut from my tree and I'd like to cut it down and make kitchen utensils, and a mash paddle
[00:19] <rick_h_> ok, so some pretty green wood
[00:19] <jrwren> yes
[00:19] <rick_h_> so you need it into smaller chunks?
[00:20] <rick_h_> in order to do the window carving process?
[00:20] <jrwren> right
[00:20] <jrwren> i should take some measurements
[00:20] <rick_h_> sure, can probably just bandsaw it
[00:20] <jrwren> oh cool
[00:20] <rick_h_> but yea, I've got all kinds of cutting instruments and devices
[00:20] <rick_h_> if there's one thing I can do well is make sawdust :)
[00:23] <jrwren> ha! awesome.
[00:24] <jrwren> might be a little thin
[00:24] <jrwren> i'd only need 20-24" long and my peices are 2.3-3" diameter
[00:24] <jrwren> so it wouldn't be a very wide mash paddle
[00:25] <jrwren> but really cutting it down into a few pieces that I can then further work with is all I really need.
[00:25] <rick_h_> cool, yea not a problem
[00:25] <rick_h_> might even meet up with some guys from semiww.org if you're interested in saving some travel time but willing to meet up with new folks
[00:25] <rick_h_> but if you want to chop some wood feel free to stop by some time
[00:26] <jrwren> cool, thanks.
[01:13] <jcastro> hey rick
[01:13] <jcastro> rick_h_, can I just give you wood and you make me furniture?
[01:36] <mrgoodcat> is rick_h_ opening a furniture shop now? :)
[01:40] <shakes808> Hello,  Does anyone use ChangeIP.com
[01:45] <mrgoodcat> are you looking for a review of that one?
[01:45] <mrgoodcat> or just a dyndns recommendation?
[01:51] <rick_h_> mrgoodcat: heh, no. Though when I burn out of this programming stuff I'll head to the woodshop for my next career
[01:52] <mrgoodcat> woodshop is the best
[01:52] <mrgoodcat> used to woodshop all the time in high school and earlier
[01:57] <shakes808> mrgoodcat, I signed up for the free dns and can't seem to find out how to set it up.
[01:57] <shakes808> was wondering if anyone uses it to help or if they know where to find documentation to set it up.
[01:58] <shakes808> I looked in their knowledge base and forum search, but can't find anything about it.
[02:16] <mrgoodcat> oh i haven't used that one
[02:16] <mrgoodcat> i assume it's some sort or cron script though right?
[02:18] <shakes808> I am not sure.
[02:18] <shakes808> I think I have it 70%
[02:18] <shakes808> I have my router connected to it just need to see how to access it
[02:18] <shakes808> :|
[02:36] <cmaloney> Ruh roh, jcastro is giving rick_h_ wood.
[02:36] <cmaloney> That can't end well
[02:36] <cmaloney> yes, I'm 12
[02:36] <mrgoodcat> heh
[02:36] <mrgoodcat> giving wood
[02:36] <mrgoodcat> i see what you did there
[03:19] <jrwren> what kind of wood? apple? oak? cherry?
[11:00] <rick_h_> jrwren: I've got a bunch of cherry, some large slabs of mahogany, maple, white oak, ash, and lots of walnut
[11:00] <rick_h_> :)
[11:43] <rick_h_> morning
[11:43] <rick_h_> TGIF and such
[12:04] <brousch> I think it's Monday
[12:05] <brousch> "I opened Quickbooks and cancelled at the login screen. Now I'm not logged in. Come help me."
[12:26] <cmaloney> brousch: happy monday
[13:05] <cmaloney> Also: Good morning
[13:21] <mrgoodcat> good morning
[13:21] <mrgoodcat> friday is best day
[13:23] <brousch> No. Saturday is best day.
[13:24] <jrwren> gotta get down
[13:26] <mrgoodcat> this saturday is MIS day
[13:26] <mrgoodcat> formula SAE races at MIS
[13:26] <mrgoodcat> ee
[13:27] <cmaloney> mrgoodcat: Ah, so it's the day when we all turn left and accelerate?
[13:28] <mrgoodcat> no
[13:28] <mrgoodcat> formula sae isn't nascar
[13:28] <cmaloney> Oh, this is student racing
[13:28] <cmaloney> that's different.
[13:28] <mrgoodcat> yea
[13:28] <mrgoodcat> most of the points are honestly unrelated to racing
[13:28] <cmaloney> That's one person driving while a gaggle of engineering students hope the damn thing doesn't blow up
[13:29] <mrgoodcat> safety checks, technical inspection, etc
[13:29] <mrgoodcat> you could feasibly "win" without ever racing
[13:29] <rick_h_> more points for not killing the driver
[13:29] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Different points for killing the driver.
[13:29] <cmaloney> :)
[13:30] <mrgoodcat> i put win in quotes because we all know the race is what everybody cares about
[13:30] <mrgoodcat> points don't matter
[13:30] <mrgoodcat> like whose line
[13:30] <cmaloney> says you
[13:31] <jrwren> oh THOSE SAE races
[13:51] <jrwren> kyle?
[13:51] <jrwren> cool! welcome! did you make it to AWS meeting last night?
[13:54] <jrwren> maintaining python code base for 2.x and 3.x : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKcAYMb5uk4
[13:54] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/LjP05M - The Horror (Marlon Brando) - YouTube
[13:55] <mrgoodcat> has anybody played the OUYA?
[13:56] <brousch> mrgoodcat: A little bit at our Makerspace
[13:56] <mrgoodcat> is it fun?
[13:56] <brousch> I only played 1 game, which was very strange
[13:57] <brousch> The fun is determined by the games you buy, of course
[13:57] <mrgoodcat> i want to get it just for "hidden in plain sight"
[13:58] <brousch> Heh, i played it on a large arcade-style setup
[13:59] <mrgoodcat> it's 100$ though
[13:59] <mrgoodcat> which is a bit much for a passing curiosity
[13:59] <brousch> Right. Then you will need another controller and games
[14:00] <brousch> I tried to get them to donate an ouya as a prize in the Kivy app contest, but they did not respond. So now I'm bitter
[14:00] <jrwren> is the vim syntax highlighting for bind zone files new in 14.04? I don't remember having it in 12.04
[14:01] <jrwren> but maybe I changed my vim color scheme and forgot
[16:24] <cmaloney> Afternoon
[16:26] <rick_h_> party
[17:13] <cmaloney> Damn computer keeps locking up
[17:17] <cmaloney> http://www.policymic.com/articles/89363/science-shows-how-drummers-brains-are-actually-different-from-everybody-elses
[17:17] <bookiebot> http://is.gd/sxhKOC - Science Shows How Drummers' Brains Are Actually Different From Everybody Elses' - PolicyMic
[17:17] <brousch> cmaloney: What POS are you running on now?
[17:17] <cmaloney> Same POS I was running on before.
[17:17] <cmaloney> Ubuntu 12.04
[17:20] <brousch> D00d. Time to upgrade
[18:43] <jrwren> when you install dash on your mac so you can test script snips and make sure they will work in cloud-init
[18:44] <jrwren> whoa. 18:41:53  up 2107 days,  9:34,  4 users,  load average: 0.04, 0.01, 0.00
[20:49] <jrwren> man... if python had a way to extend builtin types, it would be a much better lang. I'm surprised python3 didn't fix this.
[22:35] <greg-g> :(
[22:36] <greg-g> :)
[22:42] <gamerchick02> happy friday everyone


[04:24] <Mirv> if anyone happens to be awake, approving https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/cupstream2distro-config/remove_obsolete_scopes_from_packages/+merge/181535 would be appreciated, it seems it didn't get approved yesterday
[04:45] <pitti> Bonjour
[05:27] <didrocks> good morning
[05:31] <Mirv> hello
[05:31] <Mirv> didrocks: there'd be two pending merge requests from me at https://code.launchpad.net/~cupstream2distro-maintainers/cupstream2distro-config/trunk/+activereviews
[05:31] <Mirv> for unlocking phone and unity stacks respectively
[05:33] <didrocks> Mirv: approved for bothh
[05:33] <didrocks> both*
[05:33] <Mirv> thanks, deploying
[07:19] <robru> didrocks, good morning
[07:19] <robru> didrocks, http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/job/cu2d-platform-head-3.0publish/254/artifact/packaging_changes_platform-api_0.18.3+13.10.20130823-0ubuntu1.diff should I go ahead and package this?
[07:19] <didrocks> robru: hey hey! :)
[07:19] <robru> "publish this" i mean
[07:19] <didrocks> robru: looks good! +1 ;)
[07:19] <robru> ok
[07:20] <robru> Mirv, unless you're already doing it?
[07:20] <robru> Mirv, ^^
[07:20] <Mirv> robru: feel free
[07:21] <robru> didrocks, something very strange happened today... my run got skipped. I don't know how. when I went to check it at my usual time (3PM for me), indicator stack was running from before (quite a long-running run), and none of the other stacks had been started properly. but then the next run seems to have fired off fine.
[07:21] <didrocks> robru: did you notice a check job failing?
[07:22] <didrocks> robru: like, something getting stuck during the tests and so the tests taking 2h and then timeouting?
[07:22] <robru> no, didn't notice. just when I checked the 'All' page, indicator stack was the only one blinking. and jenkins claimed that it had been started by lukasz, but that seems unlikely, since he should be sleeping at that time.
[07:24] <Mirv> robru: you should click through links to see when it was started, and what is stalled, via the eg. 'check' subjob, then autopilot page, at which eg. intel could be the one running from which you can get live log on why it's stalling
[07:25] <robru> so much clicking! we need some kind of dashboard that is more forthcoming with this information.
[07:25] <Mirv> yeah, there's much to "hunt" in there, and the logic takes time to get used to
[07:26] <Mirv> robru: what's the 3pm for you in UTC?
[07:27] <Mirv> if it's the autopilot runs hanging, you can find the runs from http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/
[07:27] <robru> Mirv, the one that's assigned to me. 22:00
[07:28] <Mirv> there was a 20:54 indicator autopilot run but it finished on time
[07:29] <Mirv> but yeah an indicator head task start 21:46 which finished in publish job only after 23:00, if I read correctly http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/view/cu2d/view/Head/view/Indicators/job/cu2d-indicators-head/436/
[07:30] <Mirv> so indeed started by sil2100, he probably was still awake :) he's often awake late, and that was still slightly before midnight for him
[07:31] <robru> hmmm, ok.
[07:32] <robru> i dunno why it blocked every single other stack from running though. is that normal
[07:32] <robru> ?
[07:34] <Mirv> robru: I think that's planned, that's why if we rerun something we want to be relatively sure it finished before the next tick
[07:34] <Mirv> (and that's why we usually don't rerun anything anymore)
[07:35] <Mirv> unity stack you can't ever rerun, it's so slow that it couldn't run twice in a tick even theoretically
[07:38] <dholbach> hiya
[07:38] <dholbach> can somebody take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1213998 please?
[07:38] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1213998 in UbuntuKylin "[needs-packaging] youker-assistant" [High,New]
[07:40] <dholbach> salut seb128
[07:40] <dholbach> seb128, did you have a chance to look at youker-assistant yesterday?
[07:41] <robru> didrocks, looks like we need preNEWing for messaging-app and dialer-app... but I'm going to bed ;-)
[07:41] <dholbach> seb128, or should I maybe ping freeflying or happyaron?
[07:42] <didrocks> robru: thanks a lot! nice work :)
[07:42] <didrocks> robru: I think I won't see you before the next 2 weeks ;)
[07:42] <didrocks> robru: have fun, I hope everything will work like a charm :)
[07:42] <robru> didrocks, oh really?
[07:43] <robru> didrocks, two weeks off eh? ok, have fun! I am back home on saturday, just in time for UDS ;-)
[07:43] <didrocks> robru: heh! excellent, enjoy being back home as well :)
[07:43] <robru> didrocks, yeah! ok, goodnight ;-)
[07:44] <didrocks> robru: have sweet dreams!
[07:45] <seb128> dholbach, hey, no, yesterday was one of those days ... and seems today is going to be another, I opened IRC for 1 min and I've already pings on 3 channels
[07:45] <NikTh> Hello,
[07:45] <seb128> didrocks, robru: I preNEW reviewed dialer-app yesterday and had a quick look to messaging-app (need another one on that today)
[07:45] <NikTh> any news about 12.04.3 ? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-12.04.3
[07:45] <didrocks> seb128: I'll have time for messaging-app if you want
[07:45] <Mirv> seb128: I was just about to ask about those, those would be ready to publish
[07:46] <Mirv> seb128: but waiting for your another look at messaging-app
[07:46] <seb128> NikTh, you should ask on #ubuntu-release, desktop team doesn't do releases
[07:46] <NikTh> Great. Thanks seb128  :-)
[07:46] <seb128> didrocks, let me do that now
[07:47] <didrocks> ok, grand!
[07:48] <czajkowski> didrocks: have you been around the Irish :) Grand :)
[07:48] <Mirv> unity stack would need approval of adding accountsservices into it https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/cupstream2distro-config/unity_stack_add_accountsservice/+merge/181732
[07:49] <didrocks> czajkowski: heh, indeed ;)
[07:50] <didrocks> Mirv: hum, but then, accountsservice will be seeded by default, no?
[07:50] <didrocks> ah, but indicator-keyboard is not yet
[07:50] <didrocks> Mirv: so, once indicator-keyboard is seeded by default, you can remove those 3, right?
[07:50] <dholbach> happyaron, FJKong: do you think you could have a look at bug 1213998 for JackYu?
[07:50] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1213998 in UbuntuKylin "[needs-packaging] youker-assistant" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1213998
[07:51] <seb128> didrocks, what do you mean "accountsservice seeded by default"?
[07:51] <didrocks> seb128: it's weird, it is already, maybe indicator-keyboard just need a newer version than last iso
[07:51] <didrocks> Mirv: isn't a case with just "check with whole ppa"?
[07:51] <Mirv> didrocks: hmm, yes after it would, then they wouldn't be needed
[07:52] <seb128> didrocks, right, indicator-keyboard depends on -0ubuntu5 of accountsservice, a patch got added to store input configs
[07:52] <Mirv> didrocks: I'll give check-with-whole-ppa a try
[07:52] <didrocks> Mirv: sounds better
[07:52] <didrocks> and indicator-keyboard to be removed once seeded
[07:52] <seb128> didrocks, I didn't plan to seed it, unity Recommends it which should be good enough
[07:53] <didrocks> seb128: sorry, I use that shortcut to tell "installed by default, on the ISO"
[07:53] <didrocks> should have been more specific
[07:54] <seb128> didrocks, that should be the case today
[07:54] <seb128> but I guess we don't have the new iso yet?
[07:54] <didrocks> yep
[07:54] <didrocks> so check with whole ppa until then
[07:54] <didrocks> and then Mirv to remove indicator-keyboard from the list
[07:55] <seb128> didrocks, Mirv: messaging-app is good for NEW
[07:56] <didrocks> \o/
[07:57] <didrocks> whitelist needing to be refreshed I guess
[07:57]  * didrocks does
[07:57] <dholbach> JackYu, added another comment before happyaron and FJKong can maybe have a look
[07:57] <didrocks> Mirv: whitelist refreshed: DONE
[08:01] <Mirv> thanks, publishing phone
[08:04] <Laney> morning
[08:06] <seb128> Laney, good morning!
[08:11] <seb128> pitti, hey
[08:12] <seb128> pitti, do you think you could land your upower history fix in saucy today?
[08:12] <seb128> pitti, I updated my code yesterday to do the right thing, but now it's broken waiting on the upower fix to land
[08:21] <pitti> seb128: ah, sure
[08:21] <seb128> pitti, danke
[08:21] <pitti> seb128: I'll upload it to Ubuntu for now, and see to grab hughsie next week to land it upstream
[08:21] <JackYu> dholbach, thanks. I will also ask help from them.
[08:21] <dholbach> JackYu, anytime :)
[08:21] <seb128> pitti, great
[08:23] <didrocks> NEWed in distro (for both)
[08:24] <pitti> seb128: fait
[08:24] <seb128> pitti, super, merci
[08:26] <JackYu> dholbach, you got the lintian report from 'bzr builddeb'?
[08:34] <dholbach> JackYu, no, I ran the package through pbuilder
[08:34] <dholbach> and then did a    lintian -iIv <package>*.changes
[08:35] <JackYu> dholbach, i see:).
[09:33] <Sweetshark> pitti, seb128: Do you want to upload the raring SRU too at some point? It would fix a "Calc calcs wrong" issue that might be embarrassing if the SHTF.
[09:34] <sil2100> Morning, geeh
[09:34] <pitti> Sweetshark: sure, is that somewhere on people?
[09:34] <Sweetshark> pitti: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/raring/4.0.4/
[09:35] <Sweetshark> pitti: the diff also contains the upstream changes of course (to explain the 15MB size) ...
[09:37] <Sweetshark> pitti: oh, and thanks for uploading the precise SRU ;)
[09:37] <pitti> yw, sorry that it took so long
[09:42] <Mirv> seb128: could you preNEW lp:music-hub ?
[09:42] <Mirv> hi sil2100, how are you?
[09:42] <seb128> didrocks, ^?
[09:44] <Mirv> or didier, in case he has bandwidth still this afternoon
[09:44] <seb128> I'm trying to review didrocks' update panel work
[09:45] <didrocks> hey sil2100!
[09:45] <didrocks> doing
[09:45] <didrocks> Mirv: that's the ones on the spreadsheet for the phone team, right?
[09:46] <didrocks> Mirv: nitpick: can you put Section: libs
[09:46] <didrocks> after Priority (in the top)
[09:46] <didrocks> just trying to have the same layout for everything :)
[09:46] <Mirv> didrocks: ok
[09:46] <didrocks> Package: libmusic-hub-dev
[09:46] <didrocks> Multi-Arch: same
[09:46] <didrocks> Mirv: you need the predepends as well ^
[09:46] <Mirv> hmm, this is not one of the phone team's stuff, this is earlier on the sheet
[09:47] <didrocks> same for Package: libmusic-hub0
[09:47] <didrocks> ah ok :)
[09:47] <Mirv> darn, adding
[09:47] <didrocks> Mirv: I would have the -doc recommends the -dev
[09:47] <didrocks> and the -dev suggests the -doc
[09:48] <Mirv> ok
[09:48] <didrocks> -B build ?
[09:48] <didrocks> do you know what this is? ^
[09:48] <Mirv> "it was there when I arrived"
[09:48] <didrocks> ahah :)
[09:48] <Mirv> not really
[09:49] <didrocks> tvoss: mind explaning about the -B build in music-hub?
[09:49] <tvoss> didrocks, kenvandine added it, you can remove it
[09:49] <tvoss> didrocks, or better: I copied it from content-hub, so my bad. Feel free to remove it
[09:49] <Mirv> ok, so just normal dh $@ --fail-missing, running a test build
[09:49] <didrocks> Mirv: ^
[09:49] <didrocks> Mirv: with all those, looking excellent
[09:49] <didrocks> thanks Mirv, tvoss
[09:50] <Mirv> interestingly, something broken when removing it
[09:50] <didrocks> Mirv: ok, keep it, but can you add a #TODO: ask ken to add a comment there?
[09:50] <didrocks> let's not block on that :)
[09:51] <Mirv> it's apparently required for dbus-test-runner to work
[09:51] <Mirv> ok
[09:52] <Mirv> didrocks: https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/music-hub/final_tweaks/+merge/181763
[09:54] <didrocks> Mirv: approved. Counting on you to ping ken :)
[09:55] <Mirv> yes, added to todo
[09:55] <didrocks> thx!
[09:55] <didrocks> Mirv: feel free to autoack the publishing of course
[09:55] <didrocks> just ping me for newing
[09:56] <Mirv> ok, what about whitelist, or is it already there since it was in cu2d just daily-release: false?
[09:56] <Mirv> didrocks: ^
[09:58]  * Mirv to hangout now
[09:58] <didrocks> Mirv: yeah, it's an implementation bug IMHO
[09:58] <didrocks> Mirv: but yeah ;)
[09:58] <didrocks> (that I don't filter on daily-release: false to exclude them)
[09:58] <didrocks> but shhhh ;)
[10:44] <sil2100> seb128: hi! Do you have a moment for a review? https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/content-hub/packaging_review/+merge/181622
[10:44] <sil2100> seb128: there's the jquery thing again, can fix that if it's a big problem ;)
[11:18] <seb128> sil2100, commented
[11:24] <sil2100> seb128: thanks, there are 'mismatches' in this package
[11:25] <sil2100> seb128: since the version number in CMakeLists.txt says 0.0.1 as the version number
[11:25] <seb128> sil2100, well, version != soname != qml api number
[11:25] <seb128> those are different concepts
[11:26] <seb128> sil2100, we also have libunity9 for unity7
[11:29] <sil2100> seb128: it builds fine here
[11:29] <seb128> sil2100, I guess you have a tarball?
[11:29] <seb128> sil2100, I tried to "mkdir build; cd build; cmake .." in the vcs
[11:29] <seb128> since I don't have a tarball
[11:29] <seb128> that doesn't work
[11:30] <sil2100> seb128: I'm building it using bzr bd, so it creates the tarball from the source
[11:30] <seb128> sil2100, weird
[11:31] <sil2100> That's how the daily-build does it, building from source by builddeb
[11:31] <seb128> sil2100, right, but earlier I got an error when trying bzr bd
[11:31] <seb128> not sure what it was, working now
[11:31] <sil2100> hmmm
[11:32] <seb128> sil2100, don't worry about that, anyway the naming issue needs to be resolved
[11:33] <sil2100> seb128: pushed the naming issue - I guess I won't have to modify the version number in te CMakeLists.txt?
[11:33] <seb128> sil2100, no, you don't
[11:33] <seb128> sil2100, hum
[11:34] <seb128> sil2100, shouldn't it be named ubuntu-content0.1
[11:34] <seb128> sil2100, see my comment
[11:34] <seb128> sil2100, we might want to wait for kenvandine
[11:34] <sil2100> I'll ask tvoss
[11:34] <seb128> sil2100, I though those were supposed to be based on the import name
[11:34] <sil2100> tvoss: ^
[11:34] <seb128> sil2100, tvoss is not going to know about the package naming I think
[11:35] <tvoss> seb128, sil2100 yeah, kenvandine will know better
[11:35] <seb128> that's more a packager than upstream question, and Ken knows what was decided as naming convention since he was part of those who decided on it
[11:36] <sil2100> seb128: I didn't want to change that, but I guess it wouldn't be a big deal if it was ubuntu-content, right?
[11:36] <seb128> sil2100, that should be fine
[11:37] <sil2100> seb128: pushed
[11:41] <seb128> sil2100, if you rename the binary you need to rename the .install
[11:43] <sil2100> ...sorry about that, damn, today I'm just like sick ;)
[11:44] <sil2100> seb128: pushed, geh
[11:50] <Mirv> didrocks: music-hub in NEW
[11:52] <didrocks> Mirv: and music-hub NEWed ;)
[11:52] <didrocks> thanks
[11:56] <popey> grr
[11:56] <popey> my laptop keeps locking up for 9 seconds
[11:56] <Mirv> thanks
[12:21] <didrocks> seb128: mpt: bug #1215901 FYI
[12:21] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1215901 in ubuntu-system-settings "Additional errors message in system update ui" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215901
[12:21] <seb128> didrocks, thanks
[12:22] <didrocks> yw
[12:23] <mpt> oh goody
[12:34] <mpt> didrocks, if I join ~system-settings-touch, how badly will I be spammed? :-)
[12:35] <didrocks> mpt: I think it's fine, right seb128 ?
[12:35] <seb128> didrocks, mpt: we have email filters for that :p
[12:35] <seb128> there is some merge proposal activity
[12:35]  * mpt applies
[12:36] <seb128> like we have ~5 of those a day and they usually generate 5-6 emails each
[12:36] <seb128> submit/CI approve/review comment/merged in/archive upload
[13:00] <seb128> mpt, what should happen to the download bar/label on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=phone-settings-updates-downloading.png once the download is done (e.g when the button changes to  “Install & Restart”), should they stay on screen?
[13:00] <seb128> e.g bar 100% and label = download done
[13:00] <seb128> or something?
[13:17] <dpm> mhr3_, around for a quick scopes support question? :) My apps scope in saucy no longer seems to return any results. Any ideas what it could be?
[13:30] <tedg> kenvandine, It seems like in the cellular settings, setting to 2G doesn't work?  Is it expected to?
[13:30] <kenvandine> tedg, nope
[13:31] <tedg> kenvandine, Okay, then it works as expected!  :-)
[13:31] <kenvandine> hehe :)
[13:31] <kenvandine> it really just turned on and off data
[13:31] <kenvandine> i hadn't figured out how to select the preferred technology
[13:31] <tedg> I guess I'll have to drive off into the country to see if I can test the 2G icon in indicator-network ;-)
[13:31] <kenvandine> haha
[13:33]  * tedg prepares the expense report for the required "testing Porsche"
[13:37] <mpt> tedg, this is why we should have sprints in London more often
[13:37] <tedg> mpt, Have you seen the congestion fees?  I don't know if I could expense those!
[13:38] <tedg> mpt, It would help testing "roaming" as well :-)
[13:43] <tedg> larsu, do you by chance know if desrt finished his patch to get stack traces on criticals?
[13:43] <larsu> tedg: I don't know, no
[13:43] <larsu> desrt: maybe you're around to tell?
[13:44] <tedg> K, I'll wait until he comes back from trotting around Europe :-)
[13:44] <larsu> tedg: he might check in every now and then. So maybe you'll get an answer before September :D
[13:51] <sil2100> kenvandine: could you spare a moment to review and maybe sponsor an upload of mmsd to universe for me? I did a preliminary packaging check
[13:51] <sil2100> kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/mmsd/ubuntu
[13:51] <sil2100> kenvandine: we need it in before FF ;)
[13:52] <sil2100> In the meantime I go lay down a bit, I'll bbl!
[13:52] <sil2100> kenvandine: thanks in advance!
[14:12] <mhall119> seb128: jasoncwarner__: I've added the client meetings that existed to the schedule, but you still have one Client room open all week, any chance that more BPs or Meetings will be registered today?
[14:12] <seb128> mhall119, hey, I doubt we are going to get more from our team, not sure about other touch teams...
[14:13] <mhall119> ok, any follow-ups from last UDS's blueprints?
[14:13] <Laney> I didn't register one about system settings backends yet
[14:13] <Laney> is there something like that already?
[14:14] <mhr3_> dpm, what does your apps scope do?
[14:15] <seb128> Laney, not that I saw
[14:15] <seb128> mhall119, not sure, we are all crazy busy getting work done :/
[14:15] <Laney> seb128: ok, doing
[14:15] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[14:15] <Laney> I don't remember what the format is
[14:15] <mhall119> seb128: I know it, we all are
[14:15] <dpm> mhr3_, it does nothing. E.g. I enter a search term and the screen show "No search results"
[14:15] <Laney> can you remind me?
[14:15] <Laney> client-oifajfoiajfa
[14:16] <seb128> Laney, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1308-qt51
[14:16] <seb128> Laney, suggests client-1308-<topic>
[14:16] <mhall119> +1 ^^
[14:16] <mhr3_> dpm, i meant, what is it supposed to do, how is it implemented, did it work until now in s, ...?
[14:16] <Laney> ok
[14:17] <dpm> mhr3_, that's the default apps scope I'm talking about
[14:17] <mhr3_> oh i thought you have some custom one
[14:17] <mhr3_> dpm, ps aux | grep applications?
[14:19] <dpm> mhr3_, no output, so it seems it's not running
[14:22] <Laney> seb128: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1308-system-settings-backends
[14:23] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[14:24] <Laney> invite / require whoever should be there ;-)
[14:25] <mhr3_> dpm, is that phone or desktop?
[14:28] <dpm> mhr3_, desktop, saucy
[14:29] <mhr3_> dpm, do you get results for anything else?
[14:31] <dpm> mhr3_, the home scope seems to work and the files scope as well. They do return results, but the apps one does not even show the spinning icon to indicate it's searching
[14:31] <mhr3_> dpm, odd, can you bustle log for me?
[14:31] <seb128> Laney, will do
[14:32] <mhr3_> dpm, run bustle-pcap then go to home, do a search, then go to apps, do search there
[14:32] <mhr3_> send log
[14:32] <dpm> ok, on it
[14:40] <dpm> mhr3_, log sent
[14:49] <mhr3_> dpm, hm, not overly useful, something broke internally :/ pkill -f unity-scope-home
[14:49] <mhr3_> should work then
[14:50] <dpm> mhr3_, magic! Now it works, thanks :)
[15:06] <tedg> larsu, Not sure how much time you have to EOD, but could you fix this today?  charles_ ' comments look pretty easy, and I'm trying to clear the review queue some :-)  https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/indicator-sound/use-bus-watch-namespace/+merge/178246
[15:09] <tedg> I'm not sure what --with cli even does?
[15:09] <tedg> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/libappindicator-saucy-armhf-autolanding/2/console
[15:09] <tedg> Do we need another dep here?
[15:09] <larsu> tedg: meeting my niece for ice cream in a bit. Can't disappoint her. Will try though.
[15:09]  * larsu hurries
[15:10] <tedg> larsu, Heh, no problem.  Just doing some Friday tidying up.
[15:10] <larsu> tedg: I'll keep the tab open for later tonight if I don't make it ;)
[15:10]  * tedg 's working on the old karma, getting ready to blow it all this weekend
[15:13] <tedg> larsu, charles_, not sure what to do with this one?  12.10 merge?  https://code.launchpad.net/~charlesk/indicator-power/fix-battery-icons-for-q/+merge/125771
[15:16] <cyphermox> Mirv: didrocks: got time for some reviews? https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/cupstream2distro-config/enable-secret-agent/+merge/181855  and  https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/cupstream2distro-config/indicator-network-tests/+merge/178797
[15:22] <didrocks> cyphermox: ack on the second one. On the first one, was it preNEWed?
[15:22] <cyphermox> oh, probably not, right
[15:23] <cyphermox> seb128: can you help with that ^?
[15:23] <seb128> cyphermox, help with what? (didrocks already replied?)
[15:25] <tedg> Can you guys look at the libappindicator failure above? ^
[15:25] <tedg> It's a scary packaging thing.
[15:25] <tedg> :-)
[15:25] <cyphermox> seb128: help with preNew for indicator-secret-agent
[15:25] <cyphermox> tedg: sure, I'll look
[15:25] <seb128> cyphermox, sure
[15:25] <tedg> cyphermox, Thanks!
[15:25] <seb128> cyphermox, is that lp:indicator-secret-agent ?
[15:26] <cyphermox> seb128: yes
[15:26] <Laney> tedg: build-dep on cli-common-dev
[15:26] <Laney> it's for mono bindings if you still have those
[15:26] <cyphermox> tedg: yuck, this should never happen
[15:26] <cyphermox> Laney: it's already in the depends
[15:26] <cyphermox> Build-Depends I mean
[15:26] <cyphermox> this is an issue with the ci job
[15:27] <Laney> oh yeah
[15:27] <Laney> it didn't even try to install build-deps
[15:27] <seb128> tedg, cyphermox: that indicator-secret-agent thing looks weird, is that a new polkit?
[15:28] <tedg> seb128, No, NM secret agent for wifi prompts
[15:28] <seb128> tedg, what does that mean? what is specific about nm?
[15:28] <tedg> seb128, Basically a NM to notify-osd bridge
[15:28] <cyphermox> seb128: it's a service registering to NM to get the password from the user for a wifi network
[15:28] <seb128> tedg, that seems buggy ...
[15:28] <tedg> seb128, ?
[15:29] <seb128> tedg, I don't get why we need a separate source/service for that, can't we do the same thing we do on the desktop?
[15:29] <cyphermox> seb128: on desktop atm it's done via nm-applet
[15:29] <cyphermox> we don't have that on the phone
[15:30] <seb128> cyphermox, can't we make indicator-network have a prompt UI?
[15:30] <cyphermox> seb128: hehe :)
[15:30] <cyphermox> it already does, but this is somehow being reworked
[15:30] <cyphermox> ted:  ^ can you check why it's split up?
[15:35] <seb128> cyphermox, talking a bit to ted, pinging pete next about it, that component doesn't make sense
[15:41] <cyphermox> seb128: fair enough, I kind of agree with you
[15:50] <Laney> xnox: you need to top approve too
[15:51] <Laney> might kick the bot back into action
[15:51] <Laney> not that I know what that failure means
[15:54] <Laney> fginther: do you know what https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/ubuntu-wallpapers-saucy-armhf-ci/1/console means perchance?
[15:54] <fginther> Laney, uhhh
[15:55] <Laney> yeah I made that noise too
[15:55] <fginther> Laney, I can retrigger it in case it was some transient lp issue
[15:55] <Laney> might as well
[15:55] <Laney> it worked on the other architectures
[15:56] <fginther> Laney, it's rebuilding
[16:00] <Laney> same...
[16:00] <Laney> pram                                                                  toys
[16:01] <fginther> Laney, let me check the bzr revisions on the builders
[16:04] <fginther> Laney, this could be a bug in bzr, you might try removing the utf characters from the file names as a workaround
[16:05] <Laney> fginther: OK, but it's weird that it only happens for armhf
[16:06] <fginther> Laney, I agree
[16:19] <xnox> Laney: "I did it"
[16:19] <Laney> just pushed with the poor guy's name de-unicoded
[16:22] <robru_> kenvandine, cyphermox: anybody paying attention to daily releases right now? looks like unity8 has a new dep on hud. i can add it unless somebody else is already on it
[16:28] <seb128> Laney, kenvandine: I've 3 non-crazy settings mr up, if you feel like doing some reviews before eow
[16:34] <Laney> xnox: you manually merged it?
[16:34] <Laney> you little horror!
[16:34] <xnox> Laney: =)
[16:34] <xnox> Laney: getting things done (tm)
[16:34] <Laney> don't tell didrocks
[16:34]  * Laney was just wtfing at why the new commit didn't show up on the mp
[16:35] <xnox> Laney: well, it should be daily released with didrocks' magic voddoo.
[16:39] <seb128> ok, time for some exercice
[16:39] <seb128> back in an hour to read scrollback before calling it a week
[16:39] <seb128> have a nice w.e for those who are going to be off by then
[16:40] <Laney> see you
[16:43] <robru_> Mirv, just saw https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/cupstream2distro-config/unity8_add_hud_to_packages_list/+merge/181813 , will you merge that?
[20:04] <cyphermox> robru_: around for a review? https://code.launchpad.net/~mathieu-tl/cupstream2distro-config/unity-keyboard-packages/+merge/181914
[20:05] <robru_> cyphermox, sure, one sec. did you get my email about the cmake/autopilot stuff?
[20:10] <cyphermox> robru_: maybe?
[20:10] <robru_> cyphermox, just sent it today
[20:13] <cyphermox> ok, I'll take a look
[20:13] <cyphermox> I see your branhc
[20:18] <robru_> cyphermox, approved yours
[20:26] <cyphermox> thanks
[20:33] <robru_> cyphermox, I'm heading out for lunch. just shoot me an email with your thoughts on that cmake/autopilot branch and I'll fix it up later tonight
[20:35] <cyphermox> alright
[22:26] <darkxst> pitti, hi, can you add another ppa to our apport hook, gnome3-next


[00:08] <Cheri703> any good recommendations for cloning a hdd? I'm seeing dd, but didn't know if there are others
[00:09] <deejoe> first, you get an hdd oocyte, and remove its nucleus . . .
[00:10] <deejoe> srsly, though, Cheri703, I like to sfdisk -d /dev/sdfoo > sdfoo.sfdisk
[00:10] <Cheri703> hmm...k
[00:10] <deejoe> and then apply that to the target disk
[00:10] <deejoe> (assuming same size)
[00:10] <Cheri703> going from 160gb hdd to external 500gb
[00:10] <deejoe> hmm
[00:10] <Cheri703> have to send in netbook for repairs
[00:11] <deejoe> in general, I like to partition the new drive, make a filesystem on it (mkfs), mount up the new drive, rsync stuff to it
[00:11] <deejoe> dd feels too black-box for my tastes
[00:11] <Cheri703> well, I want to put it back when I get the computer back
[00:11] <deejoe> some people like 'dump' and 'restore'
[00:12] <Cheri703> what do you mean "black-box"?
[00:12] <deejoe> as in, it just shovels a bunch of bits over
[00:12] <deejoe> no error checking
[00:12] <Cheri703> k
[00:12] <deejoe> no ability to restart
[00:13] <deejoe> so, if the dd gets interrupted, you have to start over from the very beginning.
[00:13] <deejoe> rsync is smart enough not to copy everything again if a partial copy has been made
[00:13] <Cheri703> hmm...k
[00:13] <deejoe> but, you don't get the boot sector and stuff
[00:14] <deejoe> it's . . . complicated
[00:14] <Cheri703> I'd like to be able to boot from it, so I can use it with other laptop, then clone new info back to netbook
[00:14] <Unit193> I do the lazyman way with Clonezilla
[00:14] <deejoe> Unit193 might be your go-to person on this.
[00:15] <Cheri703> Unit193: does clonezilla copy EVERYTHING?
[00:15] <Cheri703> as in, bootable drive?
[00:15] <Unit193> Yeah!
[00:15] <Unit193> I did it twice (once on XP)
[00:15] <Cheri703> kk
[00:15] <Cheri703> hmmm...k
[00:15] <Unit193> You KNOW if windows can handle it, linux really can
[00:16] <Cheri703> does it wipe the destination drive? (as in, could I keep info on it, or do I need to clear it?
[00:16] <Unit193> You could move it onto another partition (I think)
[00:17] <Cheri703> hmm...k
[00:17] <Unit193> LiveCD (menu style)
[00:27] <canthus13> bah. I just use dd.
[00:28] <canthus13> Speaking of which, I need to back up the windows install on wife's other drive and resize it so she can dual boot to use Steam.
[00:57] <Cheri703> back in a while, hopefully after cloning
[01:33] <Cheri703> transferring junk off of external hdd :/
[01:33] <Cheri703> taking forever
[01:33] <deejoe> yes, it will
[01:33] <Cheri703> luckily I just cleared space on my desktop
[01:33]  * deejoe got to read another friend complain about xferring 160GB at the end of last week
[01:33] <Cheri703> luckily it's not much
[01:34] <Cheri703> I was able to get rid of a bunch of crap from it
[02:40] <canthus13> Hmm.
[02:40] <Cheri703> ?
[02:41] <canthus13> Fighting with wireless and my new router.
[02:41] <Cheri703> ah
[02:41] <Cheri703> ooo, that reminds me
[02:41] <Cheri703> brb
[02:42] <canthus13> Can't seem to mount my nfs shares now. :(
[02:42] <canthus13> Some of them, anyway...
[03:11] <canthus13> This is the WEIRDEST problem.  I installed a new router... Now, as soon as I start rsync, it kills my ssh connection to a different machine.  I can ssh into another machine and then back over to the target machine, but I can't ssh directly to it.
[03:12] <canthus13> ...and this persists even after stopping rsync.
[03:12] <canthus13> ...for a while. now it's working.
[03:15] <Unit193> ufw or anything like that?
[03:16] <canthus13> nope.
[03:16] <canthus13> didn't have any issues like this until I installed the new router.
[03:16] <canthus13> It's a Linksys E2000.
[03:16] <Unit193> F/W?
[03:16]  * canthus13 is poking around the config options right now.
[03:17] <canthus13> F/W? Firewall? Firmware?
[03:18] <Unit193> Firmware... (don't think that would be an issue, just fun)
[03:19] <canthus13> <IP_ADDRESS>  Stock firmware.. I've had it a little over an hour.. not enough time to install DD-WRT. :)
[03:20] <canthus13> Anyway. time to reboot my server and see if it freaks out.
[03:20] <Unit193> DD-WRT?? not Tomato? (or TomatoUSB)
[03:21] <canthus13> Tomato won't install on an E2000.
[03:21] <Unit193> http://tomatousb.org/doc:build-types
[03:22] <canthus13> Ah. cool.
[03:22] <Unit193> Can you tell what I like better ;)
[03:23] <canthus13> Heh.  I'm fine with the stock firmware for now.
[03:24] <canthus13> anyway.. back in a few, as long as the server doesn't freak.
[05:19] <TLBulous> hello?
[06:35]  * Cheri703 is running from cloned stuff on external hdd :)
[15:04] <Derath-Srvr> wb
[15:05] <Cheri703> hi
[15:06] <o0splitpaw0o> hi
[15:08] <Cheri703> I get to apply for my passport today! :D
[15:11] <Derath-Srvr> Cool
[15:18] <Derath-Srvr> having connection issues Cheri?
[15:18] <Cheri703> that was weird
[15:19] <Cheri703> I'm running from my external hdd, and everything went wonky
[15:19] <Cheri703> anyway, what I'd tried to say before it crapped out is: I'm applying for my passport today!
[15:19] <Derath-Srvr> Cool!
[15:20] <Derath-Srvr> iirc, make sure to take 2+ forms of picture IDs...
[15:21] <Cheri703> well, it says birth certificate and drivers license
[15:22] <Derath-Srvr> Ah
[15:22] <Derath-Srvr> That should work then :)
[15:22] <Derath-Srvr> It's been a long time since I looked into that...
[15:24] <Cheri703> I've never had one
[15:24] <Derath-Srvr> I looked into it several years back when I thought I wanted to take a trip...
[15:24] <Derath-Srvr> Never got past the research part...
[15:26] <Derath-Srvr> lots of things happened and I decided the trip wasn't in the near future lol
[15:29] <Cheri703> heh, yeah, that has happened to me before
[15:30] <Cheri703> now I have to have it in less than a month! hooray rush processing!
[15:32] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[18:26] <Derath-Srvr> :P
[20:00] <Derath-Srvr> Hmmm... wonder how small my log would be if the joins/quits weren't shown lol
[20:24] <Derath-Srvr> wb
[20:25] <Cheri703> thanks
[20:37] <BiosElement> Anyone interested in the future of the CubeCreate Project: www.goo.gl/WlXvI (Convore discussion)
[22:18] <BiosElement> Anyone around? Need domain name advice: Anyone like the name bioshub.com?
[22:18] <dmcglone> Hello everyone
[22:18] <dmcglone> gonna sell bios chips?
[22:19] <BiosElement> Heh, It's actually a reference to the Latin word :P
[22:19] <BiosElement> Meaning life heh
[22:20] <dmcglone> well thats what came to mind when you asked about it :-/
[22:20] <BiosElement> I figured heh
[22:21] <dmcglone> If I seen the name in a search engine, thats what I'd assume :-/
[22:21] <BiosElement> dmcglone: Some would, yes. I'm actually a fan of the double meaning myself.
[22:22] <dmcglone> I don't blame you, it would help with traffic :-)
[22:22] <BiosElement> haha, perhaps :P
[22:22] <dmcglone> biosboy would too
[22:22] <dmcglone> lol
[22:22] <BiosElement> Technically a Bios is the 'life' of a PC as well so it's got a pretty sweet meaning behind it
[22:23] <BiosElement> Going to see if I can get BiosHub.com to flow a bit better though
[22:23] <dmcglone> true, very true
[22:23]  * BiosElement is totally a jackass, stealing the -Hub idea from github
[22:23] <dmcglone> I don't see how. I see the word everywhere
[22:24] <dmcglone> I used "centeral"
[22:24] <BiosElement> Yeah, I was thinking of using it but it was a wee bit long for my taste
[22:25] <dmcglone> I tried to give my site the feel of a city
[22:25] <dmcglone> lol
[22:26] <dmcglone> like the metropolis
[22:28] <BiosElement> Yeah
[22:28] <dmcglone> are you thinking of starting a blog?
[22:28] <BiosElement> Nah, I already own BiosElement.com, I'm working on a F/OSS project that needs a more generic domain the CubeCreate heh
[22:29] <dmcglone> yeah I remember that
[22:34] <BiosElement> biosbay.com? >.>
[22:34] <BiosElement> heh
[22:35] <dmcglone> but that doesn't say much about the project
[22:36] <BiosElement> True heh
[22:37] <dmcglone> why not use cubecreate.com?
[22:38] <BiosElement> Ahh I may well end up using it heh
[22:49] <dmcglone> are you going to be looking for hosting also?
[22:53] <BiosElement> Ahh I've got a linode squared away from the previous project.
[22:53] <dmcglone> cool
[22:53] <BiosElement> Pretty big fan of them ^_^
[22:56] <dmcglone> I'm checking them out now
[22:57] <BiosElement> Best deal around for quality VPS's
[22:57] <BiosElement> And they have great tech support, who don't tend to pawn of problems they could easily blame on others. >.>
[22:58] <BiosElement> Though I've only had to use it once heh
[22:58] <dmcglone> it looks good
[22:59] <dmcglone> expensive though
[22:59] <BiosElement> It's about the best deal on a VPS you'll find, personally I wouldn't go back to shared hosting
[23:00] <dmcglone> good thing I don't use shared hosting :-)
[23:00] <BiosElement> heh
[23:01] <dmcglone> with shared hosing everyone fights for the resources. IMHO it's stupid
[23:01] <BiosElement> Yep
[23:02] <dmcglone> they think they are getting it really cheap, until they find out their site is down all the dang time
[23:02] <BiosElement> ^
[23:11] <dmcglone> what is your vision for your project?
[23:17] <dmcglone> BiosElement: is the project still looking for a website admin?
[23:18] <BiosElement> dmcglone: The vision for the project is being discussed, since I had a revolt (which wasn't really unexpected) I have a unique chance to rework the foundations. We're having a pretty awesome discussion on Convore www.goo.gl/WlXvI (Convore discussion)
[23:18] <BiosElement> And https://gist.github.com/912801
[23:22] <dmcglone> I'm heading over to cube's channel


[18:26] <bynarie> can someone unban me from #ubuntu please? i was banned for nothing
[18:27] <k1l_> you are ban evading the 4th time now instead of resolving your ban in the first place. that clearly shows you have no intention to follow any rules. as guidelines or code of conduct or the freenode policy.
[18:28] <bynarie> i dont give a fuck
[18:28] <bynarie> i was not doing anything wrong
[18:28] <k1l_> ban evading is already "doing a lot wrong"
[18:28] <bynarie> u cannot keep me out of that channel dont u get that>?
[18:29] <bynarie> i have hundreds on bncs, vpns etc etc..
[18:29] <bynarie> ok so tell me how to resolve this ban then
[18:29] <bynarie> since im such a criminal
[18:29] <Mikaela> I think that the channel for discussing bans is #ubuntu-ops
[18:29] <bynarie> no
[18:29] <bynarie> u cant talk in there
[18:29] <bynarie> unless your voiced
[18:30] <k1l_> you can talk in #ubuntu-ops
[18:30] <bynarie> ok im there
[18:30] <bynarie> how about you unban me?
[18:30] <k1l_> @mark #ubuntu-irc bynarie shows his intention about not following any rules at all
[18:31] <k1l_> bynarie: how about you keep out of the channels you are banned from and come back after "some time" when you didnt cause any issues and ask then?
[18:32] <bynarie> ok but i was not causing any issues i was trying to help a user. how is that causing a problem?
[18:32] <bynarie> i think u are abusing your "power"
[18:32] <k1l_> with already 4 times ban evading after been told every time that this is not the way to get a ban lifted, i think "some time" is going to take som real long time time.
[18:32] <k1l_> *time now
[18:32] <teward> bynarie: ban evasion is bad - you have to resolve the initial problem of being banned
[18:32] <bynarie> fine.. ill just change my nick and get on a different IP and you will never know.. which i already am
[18:33] <bynarie> u guys are seriously losers


[14:17] <mup> PR operator#516 opened: Harness.container_pebble_ready <Created by jameinel> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/516>
[17:28] <mup> Issue operator#394 closed: Create basic documentation <Created by facundobatista> <Closed by jameinel> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/394>


[14:21] <LucidFox> I wonder
[14:22] <LucidFox> Have there been attempts to port the GNOME keyboard indicator to libappindicator?
[14:22] <LucidFox> right now it's the only thing on my desktop that still uses a tray icon at boot
[14:25] <seb128> LucidFox, it needs appindicator to support labels
[14:25] <seb128> it only supports images right now
[14:25] <LucidFox> Flags? :)
[14:25] <seb128> I think it's on the roadmap for this cycle, ted would know better though
[14:25] <seb128> not a chance
[14:27] <LucidFox> I remember it supporting flags in some ancient version of Ubuntu, why was this feature removed anyway?
[14:27] <seb128> because it leads to lot of political issues
[14:28] <seb128> getting flag wrong in some countries lead to conflicting situations
[16:19] <LucidFox> bratsche> So I'm welcome to write a patch for Epiphany fixing the bookmarks menu?
[16:20] <LucidFox> actually... epiphany is in universe, I wouldn't even need a sponsor for that
[16:22] <bratsche> LucidFox: Yeah, absolutely.
[16:22] <bratsche> LucidFox: It's just very low-priority for me now since Epiphany doesn't go into UNE by default, and appmenus are only for UNE.
[16:22]  * LucidFox nods
[16:23] <bratsche> So that's why I'm not hacking on it.
[17:20] <vish> bratsche: hi , cheese seems to be crashing with the gtk-csd changes..
[17:21] <LucidFox> bratsche> The bookmarks menu is populated correctly if I activate it from the application first - I think I'm going to just hook the update menu function onto every action that updates the bookmarks list
[17:22] <bratsche> LucidFox: Sounds reasonable.
[17:34] <LucidFox> I so hate debian/control.in
[17:50]  * saji89 is away: I'm busy. BRB..
[18:33] <ScottK> vish: I thought CSD got turned off again?
[18:34] <vish> ScottK: oh it did?  hmm , maybe it was an oldish crash report i saw
[18:34] <ScottK> That's what I heard.
[18:39] <LucidFox> Okay, epiphany patched
[18:48] <jcastro> LucidFox: thanks for that, quite awesome!
[20:40]  * saji89 is back (gone 02:50:13)


[07:30] <dholbach> hey, good morning
[07:35] <Kilos> hi dholbach svij and others
[07:35] <dholbach> hi Kilos
[10:24] <czajkowski> Good morning
[10:45] <popey> yo
[10:45] <popey> pleia2: what's the best place (for you) for me to buy your openstack book. I've got a machine here I want to play with it on.
[11:43] <czajkowski> popey: I have a connector belonging to you here
[12:07] <popey> yay
[12:08] <popey> thanks
[12:08] <popey> I'll grab it next time we co-work or whatever
[12:16] <czajkowski> sounds good
[12:16] <czajkowski> popey: what days suit you again for that?
[12:26] <popey> you travelling again now?
[12:32] <popey> I have some time off coming up so won't be working all the time
[12:34] <czajkowski> popey: was thinking next week one last time before 2017
[12:34] <czajkowski> off to ireland next thursday till saturday then 4 days in london
[12:44] <popey> czajkowski: maybe wednesday? will check with wifey
[12:44] <popey> for once I can actually drive over as I now have a car :)
[12:45] <czajkowski> popey: coolio Wednesday would well in fact
[15:36] <pleia2> popey: yay! http://www.informit.com/store/common-openstack-deployments-real-world-examples-for-9780134086231 (and I have a discount code for like 30% off), not sure about uk shipping though
[15:36] <pleia2> popey: but nbd if you just grab it on amazon
[15:42] <popey> pleia2: okay, thanks :)
[16:53] <wxl> so ahoneybun you have information for this or is it a rumour at this point?
[16:53] <tsimonq2> I asked and didn't hear back :P
[16:54] <wxl> so it's a rumour
[16:54] <wxl> where did you even find this info?
[16:54] <wxl> there certainly are no vacancies listed with anything near that title
[16:55] <tsimonq2> I just thought of it myself
[16:55] <wxl> uh
[16:55] <wxl> oh
[16:55] <wxl> great
[16:55] <tsimonq2> Don't get your hopes up :P
[16:55] <wxl> well
[16:55] <wxl> that's nice
[16:56] <tsimonq2> Although it would be great to get an opinion
[16:56] <wxl> yeah have fun with that :)
[16:59] <dholbach> I call it a day - see you all tomorrow again!


[01:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted dh-runit [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [2.7.1]
[01:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted prison-kf5 [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [5.44.0-0ubuntu1]
[01:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted prison-kf5 [i386] (bionic-proposed) [5.44.0-0ubuntu1]
[01:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted prison-kf5 [s390x] (bionic-proposed) [5.44.0-0ubuntu1]
[01:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted prison-kf5 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [5.44.0-0ubuntu1]
[01:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted prison-kf5 [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [5.44.0-0ubuntu1]
[01:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted prison-kf5 [armhf] (bionic-proposed) [5.44.0-0ubuntu1]
[07:15] <estan> nacc: finally got around to reporting that bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/c-blosc/+bug/1755380
[07:15] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1755380 in c-blosc (Ubuntu) "Please sync c-blosc 1.14.0+ds1-1 from debian unstable to bionic (1.11.1 has format incompat bug!)" [Undecided,New]
[07:16] <estan> would be great if this could be sneaked through, infinity (?) ^
[07:39] <ginggs_> estan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#FeatureFreeze_for_new_upstream_versions
[08:02] <estan> ginggs_: ah thanks, i'll make sure to go through those steps.
[08:08] <infinity> estan: Don't worry about jumping through hoops, FFe approved and I'll sync it.
[08:11] <estan> infinity: many thanks!
[10:13] <Laney> apw: looking at that loop thing now
[10:14] <Laney> if you want a sneak peek, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JBHVsV9SsZ/
[10:14] <Laney> but I'll make it turn into a real failure
[10:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-guest-additions-iso (xenial-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[10:34] <apw> Laney, that is really not anything at all is it .. hrm
[10:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-meta (xenial-proposed/main) [1.361.1 => 1.413] (core)
[10:39] <apw> ^ that seems unlikely
[10:40] <Laney> :D
[10:40] <apw> cpaelzer, ^^ ??
[10:40] <apw> and some !!s too
[10:42] <cpaelzer> apw: Laney: what's up
[10:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ubuntu-meta [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.413]
[10:43] <apw> cpaelzer, ^
[10:43] <cpaelzer> the test linked above?
[10:43] <cpaelzer> or the ubuntu-meta
[10:43] <cpaelzer> ?
[10:43] <cpaelzer> UUUH
[10:43] <cpaelzer> I see
[10:43] <cpaelzer> I see ++
[10:43] <cpaelzer> please reject
[10:43] <cpaelzer> of course not xenial
[10:43] <apw> alerady gone
[10:43] <cpaelzer> WTF could that happen
[10:44]  * cpaelzer takes all ! needed for this
[10:44] <apw> wrong branch perhaps ?
[10:44] <cpaelzer> need to check in detail
[10:44] <cpaelzer> didn't feel wrong while doing
[10:45] <Laney> how did you enter the release into the changelog?
[10:45] <apw> cpaelzer, yeah it was based on bionic so that part is right ...
[10:49] <doko> apw: linux autopkg test override ping
[10:49] <cpaelzer> Found the path that lead to this xenial in the CL
[10:50] <cpaelzer> I built in a container to have the correct env /e.g. debootstrap version) which makes it an UNRELEASED entry, then on my system applied the change and ran dch --release to set the mail right
[10:50] <cpaelzer> on the latter it defaulted to xenial (systems version)
[10:50] <cpaelzer> after that neither myself nor on the review it was found
[10:50] <cpaelzer> thanks to SRU queue to catch it
[10:50] <cpaelzer> :q
[10:51] <apw> it is the last line of defence
[10:51] <cpaelzer> almost right window
[10:51] <Laney> nah, proposed would have done too
[10:51] <Laney> xenial switched to gnome shell(!)
[10:51] <apw> well i'd prefer to avoid polluting -proposed with 'forward' versions
[10:52] <cpaelzer> also in proposed my shame would have been around forever in publishing history - now it at least diminishes from this log and your minds :-)
[10:52] <Laney> not the cleanest, but for sure you would have heard some screams
[10:52] <Laney> cpaelzer: it's OK, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+queue?queue_state=4&queue_text=ubuntu-meta doesn't forget :D
[10:52] <cpaelzer> hehe
[10:52] <apw> heh yeah, it is never forgotten :)
[10:53] <apw> and it makes diffs sad mostly
[10:53] <apw> (if it has published)
[10:55] <apw> doko, soz, sorted
[11:43] <cjwatson> infinity,slangasek: Would one of you care to review https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/ubuntu-archive-publishing/sign-parts/+merge/336347 ?  This is in service of https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/archive-signing-run-parts/+merge/336373, which is part of the work to add InRelease to by-hash directories
[11:44] <cjwatson> (Remaining MPs in the arc are https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/refactor-archive-signing/+merge/336377 and https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/inrelease-by-hash/+merge/336675)
[11:49] <cpaelzer> Laney: a while ago you cleaned up a case where all ppc64el builders where hanigng on clean up - I think it is happening again
[11:50] <cpaelzer> test and build queues also match that
[11:50] <cpaelzer> whatever you did back then, could you repeat that - or is it s a different case this time?
[11:50] <cjwatson> cpaelzer: Builders or autopkgtest instances?
[11:51] <Laney> cpaelzer: for buildds that can't have been me
[11:51] <Laney> This person right here
[11:52] <cjwatson> For builders it's being investigated at the moment
[12:05] <cpaelzer> it was builders, but since it is investigated already I'll just wait
[12:05] <cpaelzer> Laney: maybe you just knew who to ping to resolve back then, it was builders as well
[12:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gcc-7-cross [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [17ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[12:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-7-cross [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [17ubuntu1]
[12:42] <Odd_Bloke> nacc: rbasak: o/ It looks like my pending uploads from https://gist.github.com/OddBloke/08f68c18f2f3d63a002f2c1a26a765ac are still pending.
[12:42] <Odd_Bloke> As I haven't seen any messages to suggest that they haven't passed a review or anything I assume they just dropped off the radar, so I'm popping them back on. :)
[12:57] <rbasak> Oh, sorry.
[12:57] <rbasak> I thought nacc was going to take over?
[13:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: javabeans-activation-framework (bionic-proposed/primary) [1.2.0-1]
[13:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted javabeans-activation-framework [sync] (bionic-proposed) [1.2.0-1]
[13:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gcc-8-cross [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [6ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[13:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-8-cross [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [6ubuntu1]
[13:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: javabeans-activation-framework [amd64] (bionic-proposed/none) [1.2.0-1] (no packageset)
[13:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted javabeans-activation-framework [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [1.2.0-1]
[13:46] <cyphermox> Laney: I'm not sure if I had shared with you the result of my test w/ britney's update_output.txt outputting json?  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c53gXp2hRg/
[13:46] <cyphermox> err
[13:46] <cyphermox> yaml, I mean
[13:47] <apw> cyphermox, what is intending to consume that
[13:51] <cyphermox> I'm writing a script that can already parse excuses.yaml; it would be nice to continue on with parsing update_output for the rebuilds/whatnot that need to happen to fully unblock a transition.
[13:54] <cyphermox> I have yet to talk about it with Debian people
[13:59] <apw> cyphermox, sounds like a laudible goal to me
[14:02] <cyphermox> scratch that last message, I have left a comment on a relevant open issue on Debian's britney2
[14:03]  * tsimonq2 wonders if Ben could pick that up somehow
[14:19] <cyphermox> tsimonq2: already started convo, so we're good for now I think
[14:21] <tsimonq2> cyphermox: Cool cool
[14:24] <Laney> cyphermox: nice
[14:24] <Laney> I wonder if the format could be rationalised a bit
[14:24] <Laney> there's probably more structure that could be introduced
[14:25] <Laney> but I guess this is more or less directly spat out from the code now
[14:25] <cyphermox> Laney: of course, I just did that by hand, to see if it was feasible without changing any of the output code
[14:25] <Laney> ♥
[14:27] <xnox> cyphermox, does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libzstd/+bug/1755310 look roughly right? e.g. is it in the correct state to be noticed by MIR team?
[14:27] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1755310 in libzstd (Ubuntu) "MIR libzstd" [High,Confirmed]
[14:28] <xnox> i see the link is up, on the components-missmatches-proposed.html page, but I'm not sure if i got the state / assignees / subscribers right, to "submit" the MIR for review.
[14:29] <cyphermox> xnox: it's in the correct state, but you don't need to assign
[14:29] <xnox> cyphermox, ack.
[14:41] <juliank> xnox: oh, we can use it for initramfs too?
[14:42] <juliank> xnox: Are you confusing that with lz4?
[14:42] <xnox> juliank, with bionic's kernel, i believe you can, yes.
[14:42] <juliank> hmm no, it's advertised
[14:42] <xnox> $ cat config-4.15.0-10-generic  | grep ZSTD
[14:42] <xnox> CONFIG_SQUASHFS_ZSTD=y
[14:42] <xnox> CONFIG_ZSTD_COMPRESS=m
[14:42] <xnox> CONFIG_ZSTD_DECOMPRESS=y
[14:42] <juliank> there's just no announcement anywhere...
[14:42] <xnox> decompress is built in, thus eligible for initramfs i believe....
[14:43] <xnox> juliank, do you expect a CONFIG_RD_ZSTD or some such?
[14:43] <xnox> squashfs is definately there.
[14:43] <juliank> I just searched for zstd initramfs and did not find anything concrete
[14:43] <xnox> so maybe we can speeding up live-installer, for reals.
[14:45] <Odd_Bloke> rbasak: Yeah, I wasn't sure if I'd missed some discussion that you might have been privy to.
[14:46] <xnox> juliank, grepping for e.g. RD_LZ4 i don't see if anything new gets compiled, apart from enabling kernel decompression as a built it.
[14:46] <xnox> juliank, to me it looks like one can totally use zstd initramfs...
[14:46] <juliank> xnox: I think I built one, though initramfs-tools does not advertise it yet
[14:46] <juliank> took 16 seconds isntead of 23
[14:49] <juliank> xnox: It definitely built, let's see if we can boot it
[14:51] <juliank> xnox: seems to work in qemu. It's a bit too fast to read "Unpacking initramfs" now, though :D
[14:51] <xnox> juliank, well, check dmesg?
[14:52] <juliank> I only booted the kernel with initramfs, and did not have a rootfs :D
[14:52] <juliank> both crashed not finding root, so that's good :D
[14:52] <juliank> will reboot in real shortly
[14:55] <juliank> rbalint: seems like zstd is a good choice for initramfs, too. compresses in same time as lz4, but smaller than gzip. probably not much slower than lz4 when decompressing for boot
[15:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: adobe-flashplugin (artful-proposed/partner) [1:20180206.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:20180313.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[15:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: adobe-flashplugin (xenial-proposed/partner) [1:20180206.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:20180313.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[15:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: adobe-flashplugin (trusty-proposed/partner) [1:20180206.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 1:20180313.1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[15:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-hwe (xenial-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[15:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox (artful-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-cloud)
[15:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox (xenial-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-cloud)
[15:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox (artful-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-cloud)
[15:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox (xenial-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-cloud)
[15:17] <LocutusOfBorg> sil2100, can you please review the above packages?
[15:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-hwe (xenial-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[15:18] <LocutusOfBorg> I just added a fix from bionic, the systemd startup script for the guest package
[15:18] <LocutusOfBorg> it calls the init script, but I prefer the systemd wrapper right now
[15:26] <sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: sure
[15:27] <sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: hm, I'm confused, why .3 for artful?
[15:27] <sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: I see two uploads there, one with version .2 and one with .3
[15:27] <LocutusOfBorg> yes, I did a copy-paste issue, so I changed in -3
[15:28] <LocutusOfBorg> if you want to reject all, I can reupload as -2 the three vbox and vbox-hwe
[15:28] <LocutusOfBorg> otherwise accept all the .3 and you are fine, also for versionig
[15:28] <LocutusOfBorg> same number makes my brain happy
[15:28] <LocutusOfBorg> (the guest-additions-package needed a debhelper compat level change, sigh)
[15:29] <sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: I don't think I understand, if you did a typo in the upload that went to the queue a version bump is not needed, you should have just kept .2
[15:30] <sil2100> As long as they're still in Unapproved version numbers don't get used up
[15:30] <LocutusOfBorg> seriously? I can override the queue? this is awesome
[15:30] <sil2100> Yeah ;)
[15:30] <LocutusOfBorg> wow :)
[15:31] <sil2100> It's a neat safety net, I can basically accept the .3's if you as the maintainer don't care about the version jump
[15:31] <LocutusOfBorg> if you want to reject, this is fine, I have the new -2 ready to go
[15:31] <LocutusOfBorg> just accept guest-additions-iso
[15:32] <chrisccoulson> hi, can someone please approve my flashplayer uploads? (and copy them to the release pocket later too)
[15:32] <LocutusOfBorg> BTW I spent the whole morning testing it
[15:32] <LocutusOfBorg> in the meanwhile we already got ~4 positive feedbacks
[15:32] <LocutusOfBorg> :D
[15:32] <sil2100> Ok, if they're ready then please upload, I'll reject the older ones (+ the guest-additions)
[15:32] <sil2100> (I mean, approve guest-additions)
[15:32] <sil2100> Or review first, even
[15:32] <sil2100> ;)
[15:33] <LocutusOfBorg> already uploading, don't forget to reject .3 and accept .2 then :p
[15:34] <LocutusOfBorg> oops I dputted -f also the guest-additions with exactly the same changes file, meh :)
[15:34] <LocutusOfBorg> sad, I did a looong post about all the tests I have done, and f5 on chrome lost it
[15:34] <LocutusOfBorg> :/
[15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox (artful-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-cloud)
[15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox (xenial-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-cloud)
[15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-guest-additions-iso (xenial-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[15:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-hwe (xenial-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[15:39] <LocutusOfBorg> fine now ^^
[15:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox-guest-additions-iso [source] (xenial-proposed) [5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox-hwe [source] (xenial-proposed) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox [source] (xenial-proposed) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox-hwe [source] (xenial-proposed) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox [source] (xenial-proposed) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:40] <sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: thanks! Rejected what had to be rejected and will review those in a moment, just need to finish something quick
[15:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox [source] (artful-proposed) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox [source] (artful-proposed) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:40] <LocutusOfBorg> sure thanks
[16:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: patchelf (xenial-proposed/universe) [0.8-4 => 0.9-1~ubuntu16.04.1] (no packageset)
[16:18] <Odd_Bloke> Can someone remind me how I would go about getting packages added to a packageset?  (Specifically, I'd like the other packages under https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#vagrant added to the ubuntu-cloud packageset, so I can more effectively maintain vagrant.)
[16:21] <rbasak> Odd_Bloke: email devel-permissions@ with the request.
[16:23] <Odd_Bloke> On a related note, could someone with The Power please hit the retry URLs in here for me: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/R5x8RykbTC/
[16:23] <nacc> Odd_Bloke: doing so now
[16:24] <Odd_Bloke> Thanks!
[16:25] <Odd_Bloke> nacc: Oh, actually, never mind!
[16:25] <Odd_Bloke> I just noticed that I have an i386 regression on Vagrant itself. >.<
[16:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-guest-additions-iso (xenial-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[16:31] <xnox> Odd_Bloke, /usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby/spring/application.rb:156:in `fork': undefined method `reject!' for nil:NilClass
[16:32] <xnox> so i think spring is b0rked, no?
[16:33] <Odd_Bloke> xnox: <shrug asciimoji>
[16:33]  * xnox loves this audio description
[16:34] <xnox> is this alexa typing?
[16:34] <Odd_Bloke> (My intent is to shepherd the things I was working on last week through, but I can't invest time in any new Ruby packages this week.)
[16:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: horizon (xenial-proposed/main) [2:9.1.2-0ubuntu4 => 2:9.1.2-0ubuntu6] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[16:37] <sergiusens> RAOF mind (please) taking a look at  patchelf (xenial-proposed/universe) ?
[16:38] <Odd_Bloke> So I think https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/request.cgi?release=bionic&arch=amd64&package=ruby-mustermann19&trigger=ruby-defaults%2F1%3A2.5%7E1000grauubuntu1 (and other arches) should clear that from blocking ruby-defaults.
[16:39] <Odd_Bloke> xnox: ruby-turbolinks itself is blocked by an autopkgtest that's failing on the debug_inspector thing; are you still fixing that?
[16:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: horizon (trusty-proposed/main) [1:2014.1.5-0ubuntu2.1 => 1:2015.1.4-0ubuntu4] (ubuntu-server)
[16:40] <xnox> Odd_Bloke, i believe i fixed that bit; but rails newapp test still fails, but now with this ruby-spring issue, upon trying to "boot" the brand new rails app.
[16:40] <xnox> Odd_Bloke, at least it manages to create a brand new rails app now.
[16:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: horizon (trusty-proposed/main) [1:2014.1.5-0ubuntu2.1 => 1:2014.1.5-0ubuntu2.2] (ubuntu-server)
[16:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New source: xorg-lts-transitional (bionic-proposed/primary) [3:14]
[17:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected horizon [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:9.1.2-0ubuntu6]
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected horizon [source] (trusty-proposed) [1:2014.1.5-0ubuntu2.2]
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected horizon [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:9.1.2-0ubuntu5]
[17:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted virtualbox [source] (artful-proposed) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[17:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox-guest-additions-iso [source] (xenial-proposed) [5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[17:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected horizon [source] (trusty-proposed) [1:2015.1.4-0ubuntu4]
[17:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted virtualbox-guest-additions-iso [source] (xenial-proposed) [5.1.34-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[17:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted virtualbox [source] (xenial-proposed) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[17:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: horizon (trusty-proposed/main) [1:2014.1.5-0ubuntu2.1 => 1:2014.1.5-0ubuntu2.2] (ubuntu-server)
[17:25] <Odd_Bloke> xnox: Aha, good!  In that case, could you retrigger the failing tests under https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#ruby-turbolinks for me, please?
[17:26] <Odd_Bloke> I _think_ they only rely on newapp running, not on the part of the rails test that is now failing.
[17:26] <sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: eh, I just reviewed and accepted most virtualbox SRUs, but the virtualbox-hwe has an ugly changelog
[17:26] <sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: for others you were overwriting the old changelog, here it's duplicated (and with the same version number actually)
[17:27] <sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: could you fix that?
[17:27] <xnox> Odd_Bloke, hm, we shall see then
[17:32] <LocutusOfBorg> sil2100, I prefer to avoid a new changelog entry, but I can fix it, yes
[17:32] <LocutusOfBorg> and... hwe is just to match the version numbers, to avoid useless diffs in case of subsequent uploads
[17:33] <sil2100> Yeah, thanks!
[17:33] <LocutusOfBorg> ack
[17:33] <LocutusOfBorg> just one sec, wildo in 20min
[17:34] <doko> LocutusOfBorg: did the gdbm maintainer explain, why gdbm needs linking with dietlibc?
[17:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox-hwe [source] (xenial-proposed) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[17:37] <slangasek> dietlibc? >_<
[17:44] <LocutusOfBorg> yes doko, in the RFS bug
[17:45] <LocutusOfBorg> but this solution should make everybody happy
[17:45] <doko> LocutusOfBorg: what is the RFS bug?
[17:45] <LocutusOfBorg> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=891005
[17:45] <ubot5`> Debian bug 891005 in sponsorship-requests "RFS: gdbm/1.14.1-5 " [Wishlist,Open]
[17:45]  * LocutusOfBorg goes afk for some minutes
[17:49] <Odd_Bloke> rbasak: Thanks for the packageset update!
[17:50] <rbasak> yw
[17:50] <rbasak> Non-automatic packagesets are the easiest type :)
[17:51] <Odd_Bloke> :)
[17:53] <nacc> Odd_Bloke: ruby-parslet is already fixed, afaict (1.8.2-2)
[17:54] <Odd_Bloke> nacc: Yep, agreed.
[17:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added vagrant-cachier to ubuntu-cloud in bionic
[17:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added vagrant-libvirt to ubuntu-cloud in bionic
[17:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added vagrant-lxc to ubuntu-cloud in bionic
[17:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added vagrant-mutate to ubuntu-cloud in bionic
[17:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added vagrant-sshfs to ubuntu-cloud in bionic
[18:06] <nacc> Odd_Bloke: sigh, ruby-rgen has CRLF line endings
[18:06] <nacc> Odd_Bloke: so your patch fails to apply on its own (afaict0
[18:08] <LocutusOfBorg> sil2100, reuploaded, with an added entry "build only guest packages with hwe stack"
[18:08] <LocutusOfBorg> so we know that this is the same as virtualbox/proposed, plus the new stack packages
[18:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-hwe (xenial-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[18:12] <Odd_Bloke> nacc: My patch seems to have the right line endings; are you losing them when you download it?
[18:12] <nacc> Odd_Bloke: yeah possibly
[18:13] <Odd_Bloke> nacc: Try https://gist.githubusercontent.com/OddBloke/08f68c18f2f3d63a002f2c1a26a765ac/raw/ce49b7ec843dccf26da4e749214a43f0fc18ec21/ruby-rgen.debdiff
[18:13] <nacc> Odd_Bloke: since it's in a paste? can you .. yeah that
[18:13] <nacc> Odd_Bloke: thanks
[18:14] <Odd_Bloke> FWIW, "download as text" from paste.u.c seemed to WFM.
[18:14] <nacc> Odd_Bloke: ack, i see that now
[18:21] <sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: hmm, ok, this still looks a bit strange - before you were just overwriting the latest changelog entry, now the strange thing is that you have 5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> with almost the same changelog entries as 5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[18:22] <sil2100> LocutusOfBorg: normally what people do is, if they want to leave the previous version in the changelog, add a new one with just the entry they want (so the 'build only...' thing) + build the source package with -v
[18:22] <sil2100> To get the previous changelog entry in .changes
[18:22] <LocutusOfBorg> yes, but one refers to virtualbox, the other to virtualbox-hwe
[18:23] <LocutusOfBorg> ack ok
[18:23] <LocutusOfBorg> Indeed
[18:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-hwe (xenial-proposed/multiverse) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[18:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted patchelf [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.9-1~ubuntu16.04.1]
[18:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected virtualbox-hwe [source] (xenial-proposed) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[18:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted virtualbox-hwe [source] (xenial-proposed) [5.1.34-dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[20:26] <estan> infinity: i tested the c-blosc 1.14.0+ds1-1 you synced (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/c-blosc/+bug/1755380/comments/2). looks good! many thanks for dealing with it so quickly.
[20:26] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1755380 in c-blosc (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Please sync c-blosc 1.14.0+ds1-1 from debian unstable to bionic (1.11.1 has format incompat bug!)" [Undecided,Fix released]
[20:28] <estan> (would be nice to have in artful too, but not too important)
[23:37] <infinity> estan: Except that it segfaults on ARM, so won't migrate.
[23:42] <slangasek> tjaalton: we seem to still be no closer to a resolution on freeipa.  What are our options for un-sticking it for 18.04?  Are the autopkgtest failures in 4.6.3-1 something that need resolving, vs. skipping?  Is the resolution of those failures blocked on the nss stuff whose name I've forgotten?
[23:46] <slangasek> jbicha: did you want Debian bug #866659 (zekr removal) actioned in Ubuntu to unblock swt-gtk?
[23:46] <ubot5`> Debian bug 866659 in src:zekr "zekr: depends on libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 which is deprecated" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/866659
[23:48] <jbicha> slangasek: yes I filed Debian bug 892650 too
[23:48] <ubot5`> Debian bug 892650 in src:zekr "zekr: Intent to request removal from Debian" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/892650
[23:49] <slangasek> removed
[23:50] <jbicha> I assume we won't be trying to remove libgnomeui from Ubuntu this cycle -- it would kill shutter for instance (admittedly unmaintained but still…)
[23:51] <jbicha> oh and sugar too
[23:53] <slangasek> I wonder if there's anything in sugar that should still be kept in Ubuntu; last time it had a reason to be on my radar it was because of packages removed from Debian several years ago that we're still keeping in Ubuntu because there was an Ubuntu delta, but the Ubuntu delta is by now quite stale
[23:55] <jbicha> sugar-toolkit doesn't look very important so removing gnome-python and gnome-python-desktop looks ok to me


 so you have to pay extra for kubuntu security ?
[00:00] <keithzg> You don't have to pay anything for Kubuntu, period :D
 ESM
 ESM apps
 in order to get extra security patchig for ubuntu lts you have to use ubuntu pro?
[00:03] <keithzg> If you mean https://ubuntu.com/security/esm that's essentially just for extended updates for older releases, ex. if you want to stay on 18.04 forever for some reason. As long as you're using the latest release or even the latest LTS there isn't any difference AFAIK.
 gotcha
[00:07] <oerheks> Do you really want to run an OS older than 4 years?
[00:14] <Barbudo> Cant ping nme phone either :,(
[00:30] <oerheks> i thing you need to check forums, put your andoid in ADB mode first, then connect when your phone is unlocked
[00:31] <oerheks> on gnome it works fine, one would get a warning ont he phone when connected, press yes
[00:36] <Barbudo> Going to reinstall Kubuntu on another computer and see if I have the same issues. Is there any other KDE distro you guys would recommend to give a try?
[01:02] <Barbudo> Tried a new computer now with a fresh Kubuntu install and still no joy
[01:03] <oerheks> android issue, not ubuntu i bet
[01:04] <Barbudo> I have a modded Android OS without any Gapps in it. Do you think that might be the deal breaker?
[01:04] <oerheks> no idea, probably
[01:04] <oerheks> check their irc channel?
[01:05] <Barbudo> For the Android OS?
[01:05] <oerheks> no, their mod channel, maybe on an other network?
[01:05] <oerheks> or forum
[01:12] <Barbudo> You must mean for the modded OS right? I dropped the devs a msg in their Discord. If it is the phone OS, I will rip it out and add another one on the phone.
[01:36] <circle> Hi on the 21.10 live desktop I am able to select "Tap-to-click" in Settings > Touchpad. However in 22.04.2 on the same device, the tapping section is greyed out. Why might that be and is there a cure?
 no one? :/ (re @Gardn3r: Can anyone help me to find a fix for an weird bug in the Application Style?
 It seams that fresh installs of Kubuntu KDE Plasma constantly have this issue.
 By installing Fresh new Global Themes the Application Styles does not add new styles.
 Is there a work around or an separate Plasma update guide available to fix this?)
 ouh its trough IRC
 216z
[11:58] <user|67> imposiible to install ubuntu with luks2 root partition, boot is unecryped. Every time, installer crush.
[11:59] <user|67> crush is happen after i choose root as psycial device for encryption, after that, install crushed. No choice for fs on encrypted partition
[11:59] <user|67> I sucessfully installed on way.
[12:02] <user|67> To install
[12:02] <user|67> 1. Install Ubuntu (their installer wroks without problem)
[12:02] <user|67> 2. In ubuntu install kubuntu-desktop
[12:02] <user|67> 3. logout and login with choosing Plasma
[12:02] <user|67> 4. remove ubuntu-desktop; ubuntu-desktop-minimal; ubuntu-session; virtualkeyboard (it make problem and auto start)
[17:45] <Tweak> Hi. I am trying to replace kwin with compiz (as a systemwide default) but cannot figure out how to find and or mask kwin in systemctl, because i don't see it. is there some other way to disable kwin permanently and use compiz loaded by default? Here is a link to the kubuntu forum thread http://surl.li/fstpu
[19:46] <Tweak> hi. I am trying to disable kwin and enable compiz upon startup so it starts properly without flicker caused by placing "compiz --replace" as a startup item