[03:31] <onetinsoldier> tarek: if you already have file-roller, then try installing   oneko
[03:31] <Visualante> Stevethepirate: yeah i know but it's kind of cool how you can cat system stuff
[03:31] <blind> i use scrot for screenshots
[03:31] <juancarlospac0> no, i want to cat my video device
[03:31] <blind> i want to cat my video device too
[03:31] <Stevethepirate> Visualante: well, in this case you can't. Do you want video or just a screenshot?
[03:31] <Visualante> i want to cat my girlfriend
[03:31] <blind> cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp is fun.
[03:31] <juancarlospac0> nono, i want to cat my video device, its for use with netcat over network
[03:31] <tarek> onetinsoldier, thnak you, its confirmed, it works
[03:31] <Visualante> Stevethepirate: i want neither, i'm just curious how you could cat a device
[03:32] <Visualante> i heard you can cat mouse position and keyboard array
[03:32] <Stevethepirate> Some devices you can just sommer cat, some you can't :)
[03:33] <phoebus> Cheers Dizkonnekted knew that but couldn't think of it.
[03:33] <onetinsoldier> JC: ok, hello. what's up?
[03:34] <juancarlospac0> nooooo, cat /dev/dsp works!, but cat /dev/video0 dont :( i can multicast my sound but not the video :(
[03:34] <onetinsoldier> we just have a netsplit? i was really lagged here
[03:34] <Stevethepirate> Ye.
[03:34] <onetinsoldier> roger
[03:34] <acerimmer_> onetinsoldier: yup
[03:34] <Piccolo48> Hello, I am trying to install a .deb file but I keep getting an error that says "wrong architecture".  how do I change that?
[03:35] <Stevethepirate> Piccolo48: The file you have is probably for x64, and you have x86. Go online and get the correct .deb for your architecture.
[03:35] <onetinsoldier> JC: ok, hello. what's up?
[03:35] <Stevethepirate> Or search the repository for the file (best solution)
[03:36] <Piccolo48> k thnx
[03:36] <hanasaki> what is a good low profile card gigabit ethernet
[03:36] <dfcnvt> seems I'm foolish enough to play with this "cat /dev/random > /dev/dsp"
[03:36] <hanasaki> and  good / not so good chipsets
[03:36] <dfcnvt> how do you stop this?
[03:36] <ksbalaji> JC, I get 2.6.24-27-generic substitute for uname -r. I note that this does not have any space in between. Did you try that?
[03:36] <maco> dfcnvt: ctrl+C
[03:37] <dfcnvt> already did... it still makes noises..
[03:37] <JC> Yes, I did.
[03:37] <JC> thanks
[03:37] <JC> onetinsoldier, i'm having a bit of an issue
[03:37] <lz> ?
[03:37] <onetinsoldier> JC: roger. who knows if i'll know what to do though
[03:37] <JC> onetinsoldier, idk how to PM in irc, can you tell me the command for it so that i can just type there/ I tend to use "enter" as punctuation and that would make my life much easier.
[03:38] <Stevethepirate>  /query <user>
[03:38] <dfcnvt> how do you send a zero bytes in /dev/dsp?
[03:38] <Stevethepirate> dfcnvt: cat /dev/zero > /dev/dsp
[03:38] <maco> dfcnvt: cat /dev/zero > /dev/dsp
[03:38] <phoebus> Dizkonnekted, doesn't seem to actualize the setting, any ideas for that? Using the latest ubuntu. Audigy 2 card.
[03:38] <dfcnvt> ah yes.. very well
[03:38] <gbear14275> anyone here done a jeos install?
[03:39] <Stevethepirate> Alternatively you can use "yes 0 > /dev/dsp" or something like that (man yes)
[03:39] <juancarlospac0> why i cant cat my device, on lignux everything its a file or im wrong ?
[03:39] <onetinsoldier> JC: what Stevethepirate said... or, i use   /msg <use_nick> <text message>
[03:39] <dfcnvt> strange, doesn't stop..
[03:39] <onetinsoldier> JC: what Stevethepirate said... or, i use   /msg <user_nick> <text message>
[03:39] <Dizkonnekted> phoebus, sorry? i think you have the wrong nick? lol
[03:40] <JC> onetinsoldier, apparently it wont lt me. whatever. i'm following this tutorial. i'm at the part where it says do you have the sound modules installed, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting?action=show&redirect=DebuggingSoundProblemsuu
[03:40] <Guest37966> hello all, i've just compiled and installed cdrdao-1.2.3 to solve a lucid's problem, but now the update manager insists in suggesting me an older version. I really don't understand this behavior, and my question is if there's a way o fixing this without "locking" this installed version.
[03:40] <maco> juancarlospac0: i think you can only cat character devices
[03:40] <maco> juancarlospac0: as opposed to block devices
[03:40] <ksbalaji> JC, noises? I had a similar problem with audacious. I changed sound driver. (keep changing always:-)) It helps - alsa, arts,esd.,oss,pulse audio.. OK. All the best. This much for my effort.
[03:40] <juancarlospac0> but i can cat disks, strange
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> DONT
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> DO THAT.
[03:41] <dfcnvt> I hasn't tried this.. but what about this one "cat /dev/video0 > /dev/dsp"
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> juancarlospac0!
[03:41] <Stevethepirate> I would highly recommend that you not do that.
[03:41] <dfcnvt> ah, nevermind.. doesn't work
[03:41] <onetinsoldier> JC: ok. i'm having a look, but i don't know that i'll be able to help with this or not
[03:41] <juancarlospac0> why i cant cat
[03:41] <juancarlospac0> its only a cat
[03:42] <Stevethepirate> Yeah, but something like "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sda1" is a BAD IDEA.
[03:42] <JC> onetinsoldier, i'm more confused about the terminal part. I know what 'uname -r' does, and I tried substituting it for the result of just typing "uname -r" but both times it can't find the packages.
[03:43] <onetinsoldier> JC: so, what's happeneing right now? what are you trying to do exactly, and what exactly is happening?
[03:43] <juancarlospac0> not the same this is redirect something to a disk
[03:44] <JC> onetinsoldier, I've got no audio, i'm running through the troubleshoot. this is the first block i've come across. i'm checking to see if i've got the modules installed, which it says "the directory does not exist" so i guess i don't. but when i follow the commands to get them, the system can't find the packages it requests (linux-generic-module) or whatever
[03:44] <JC> onetinsoldier, "linux-ubuntu-module"
[03:44] <onetinsoldier> JC: i'm pretty sure that's because those package names are 'old'. those package names don't exist in newer version of ubuntu. that guid was made for earlier versions of ubuntu it looks like
[03:45] <onetinsoldier> guide*
[03:45] <AndrewX192> Anyone know howto get transparency like http://www.cimitan.com/blog/wp-content/murrine_rgba-2.jpg ?
[03:45] <onetinsoldier> JC: give me a few minutes to see if i can find the right name
[03:45] <Stevethepirate> AndrewX192: That will be an option on your window manager. Compiz-fusion, etc.
[03:46] <AndrewX192> Stevethepirate, not the transparency on the rest of the window, just the window decoration
[03:46] <AndrewX192> Thats with ccsm will do, I want the rest of the window
[03:47] <AndrewX192> With murrine
[03:47] <JC> onesoldier, thanks man
[03:47] <Stevethepirate> Still looks like just compiz-fusion with some custom theme. :/
[03:48] <AndrewX192> Stevethepirate, nah, its murrine with rgba on
[03:48] <AndrewX192> But I cant figure out howto enable rgba
[03:48] <onetinsoldier> JC: not sure why you'd be missing them. you are running Lucid 10.04?
[03:48] <Stevethepirate> Then your question should be "anyone know how to enable rgba with murrine on compiz-fusion" :)
[03:49] <onetinsoldier> JC: they are installed with the kernel package
[03:50] <juancarlospac0> my multimedia multicast streaming system:  "nc -l -p 5000 | mplayer -" and "cat /dev/video0 | nc <IP_ADDRESS> 5000" the problem is that on Lucid my /dev/video0 dont want to cat
[03:50] <JC> onetinsoldier, I had 9.04 on the system, I updated to 9.10, then to 10.4. 9.10 was over a network upgrae wirelessly, (to a neighbors house ) which probably wasn't too good of an idea. I may have had a corruption in there. the 10.4 update was after I got the internet set up here (new house)
[03:50] <JC> onetinsoldier, this is all over the span of a week
[03:50] <Stevethepirate> JC, aptitude probably does some decent checksumming before installing packages.
[03:51] <onetinsoldier> JC: roger. i recommend you do --> apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.32-22-generic  ..then reboot and try again
[03:51] <Stevethepirate> Anyway, time for some marshmallows on marie biscuits :) bbiab.
[03:51] <Stevethepirate> onetinsoldier: admit you wished I could scp you some :)
[03:51] <onetinsoldier> Stevethepirate: cheers :-)
[03:51] <shane2peru_lapto> I need to find a pid of a process in a script and get the number so I can kill that particular process, I tried kill $! and that didn't work, any ideas??
[03:52] <JC> onetinsoldier, i'll give that a try.  stevethepirate, you'd think lol. enjoy your marshz
[03:52] <Stevethepirate> shane2peru_lapto: ps -ax <process name>
[03:52] <Stevethepirate> To get PID, then kill -9 <PID> to kill it.
[03:52] <Zelda> wtf?
[03:53] <shane2peru_lapto> Stevethepirate, ok, thanks!
[03:53] <onetinsoldier> Stevethepirate: want a fairly cool weather app? i dare to get anyone to get it to compile in Lucid. i did it, but i dare anyone else, hehe. i'll send you my .debs of it if you want ;D
[03:53] <Stevethepirate> Nothanks, my "awesome" setup is in development atm :)
[03:53] <onetinsoldier> Stevethepirate: roger
[03:54] <dr4c4n> has anyone run into bug 546992 on xubuntu after lucid lynx and been able to find the hal upgrade in the -proposed sources?
[03:55] <JC> btw, I keep having major problems with ubuntu disks. i've used several brands of disks, minimal burn speeds, and used 3 different os's to burn the disks
[03:55] <JC> checked the md5 of the iso's before burning
[03:56] <JC> and after
[03:56] <JC> but none of them boot
[03:56] <JC> on ANY computer.
[03:56] <JC> it makes me want to punch a baby.
[03:56] <phoebus> JC, weird. Assuming you know how to config the bios to boot from the cd right? :P
[03:56] <bastidrazor> that has to be the funniest thing i've read all day.
[03:56] <coz_> JC,   did you try burning the iso at 1x?
[03:57] <trp> is there a package for pulseaudio9.15 available for 9.04?  I tried adding PPA sources i found online, but apt-get still says 9.14 is the newest available...
[03:57] <fjsoifjsoif>  DCC SEND "urgayurgayugr" 0 0 0
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[03:57] <JC> Well duh. It goes to the cd, and then something always goes wrong. The ubuntu 10.4 disk got to those four dots under the ubuntu word, the text version can never get past 7% on ANY iso, the hardware is all fine. idk what it is.
[03:57] <JC> coz, yes, that's the minimum any of my machines/software will burn at
[03:58] <onetinsoldier> JC: what model/brand of video card does the system have?
[03:58] <JC> it's onboard.
[03:58] <coz_> JC,  ok  left field question... do you smoke in that same room?
[03:58] <JC> onetinsoldier american megatriend.
[03:58] <onetinsoldier> JC: and probably an Intel
[03:58] <JC> Coz, I don't smoke.
[03:58] <coz_> JC,  ok
[03:58] <onetinsoldier> JC: that sounds like a BIOS brand and not a video card brand
[03:58] <JC> Coz, neither does my roommate, our friends smoke outside. (lucky bastards, my roommate keeps it freezing)
[03:59] <coz_> JC,   ok just a thought  :)
[03:59] <coz_> JC,  I am curious if other things burn well  data discs  music discs  etc?
[03:59] <JC> onetinsoldier, you're right,  I think it's thunder something? i can't remember. crap. how do I check that if it's not on the hardware?
[03:59] <JC> Music discs are fine.
[03:59] <onetinsoldier> JC: well, command line would be.. sudo lshw -C Video
[03:59] <JC> i don't use data disks, I have flash drives
[04:00] <coz_> JC,  in terminal    lspci | grep -i vga
[04:00] <dfcnvt> Okay, I'm still on the subject about Cat Video.. I think it will only work with a cable card for television.. This set as /dev/video0 as a cable card... So, it doesn't work specifically for a video camera itself anyway..
[04:00] <Stevethepirate> dfcnvt: just use vlc mate.
[04:00] <Dizkonnekted> JC, i know exactly how you feel, i even considered asking if there was a problem with the .iso's lol
[04:00] <JC> coz, onetinsoldier, product is "Rage XL by ATI. PCI, 32 bits at 33 mhz
[04:00] <dfcnvt> lol, okay.. I just wanted to see those raw data..
[04:01] <Dizkonnekted> i gave up trying after 5 attempts
[04:01] <JC> I also can't get any resoultion higher than 800, it's hooked up with the standard monitor cord to my TV.
[04:01] <coz_> JC,  how much memory on that card?
[04:01] <JC> which sucks because it's 62 inches and I want to see clearer
[04:01] <jjmartin> i rebooted after a crash and my touch pad does not work now
[04:02] <JC> coz, not sure, doesn't say.
[04:02] <onetinsoldier> JC: roger. don't know how to help really. but i'd make note of the so you can tell people. so, describe the problem then you can include that info
[04:02] <coz_> JC,  ok  have you tried the  alternate cd ?
[04:02] <Stevethepirate> JC, have you done a md5 checksum on the iso?
[04:02] <JC> onetinsoldier, ok, I will. coz, yeah, that's the one that wouldn't make it past 7%
[04:02] <JC> Stevethepirate, I have 5 gigs worth of ubuntu isos. all check out just fine.
[04:03] <Stevethepirate> Then why is there a potential probleM?
[04:03] <JC> Which was a very nice slapt to the face. I have no idae why they don't work, it's why I had no choice but to update from the only disc that worked, the 9.04.
[04:03] <coz_> JC,  are you burning these ISO's  directly from a flash drive?
[04:04] <onetinsoldier> JC: i know this, that card is really ancient history. it's probably not supported anymore
[04:04] <rww> dr4c4n: (I'm looking at the package list now, it'll take me a couple of minutes)
[04:05] <JC> coz, no, they're stored on the hard drive of my computer. I've used a flash drive to copy them between computers to try burning disks on them, with no avail.
[04:05] <dr4c4n> rww: thanks, I followed the instructions as to how to use the package manager for -proposed packages
[04:05] <JC> coz, i copy them to the hd before I burn the iso
[04:05] <dr4c4n> and when I ran it could not find the hal package that the fix referred to
[04:05] <coz_> JC,  ok thats what I wanted to know
[04:06] <alem189> My empathy icon in gnome-panel keeps flashing between the regular icon and a black square with a red sign on it, is this a common problem??
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[04:07] <JC> onetinsoldier, ooh, new piece of info, maybe helpful (the OVERALL problem currently is I have no working sound, which sucks because i build recording studios and kinda need audio hahah) one of the devices from "lspci -v | less" is a "Multimedia audio controller : Creative Labs CA0106 Soundblaster" (my guess is this is the generic name for my rocketfish card) Capabilities it says " access denied"
[04:07] <JC> my SCSI controllers say that too, but I don't have anything hooked up to them .
[04:07] <i8degrees> is anybody here familiar with RAID setups? RAID-10 specificly. I only have three disks that I am able to dedicate to the array as of this moment, with the fourth one coming in thru the mail within a week. Circumstances force me to setup this array ASAP, and so I am curious if there is whatsoever of a possibility of setting up RAID-10 with the fourth drive marked "missing" ...? I am 100% OK w/ a temporary performance & risk o
[04:07] <i8degrees> f data loss period
[04:08] <phoenix___> hello everyone
[04:08] <edbian> phoenix___, Hi
[04:08] <Daverix> !voicespeed 10
[04:08] <phoenix___> edbian: hello
[04:08] <onetinsoldier> JC: don't know how to help there either really. original Creative Soundblaster? yet another piece of 'history' to me. my very first computer in like 1993 had one
[04:08] <Daverix> !voicespeed 60
[04:09] <edbian> phoenix___, Do you have a problem?  I'd love to help with it!
[04:09] <rww> dr4c4n: hrm, that's odd. It should be there, but I can't find it either.
[04:09] <JC> it's a new card, I bought it a week ago
[04:09] <JC> lol
[04:09] <rww> dr4c4n: oh, I see why. It should be in lucid-updates by now?
[04:10] <phoenix___> edbian: ya, i am trying to run yahoo messenger in wine, done some tweaks and successfully loged
[04:10] <dr4c4n> rww: I know i'm being horrible about this, but I was trying to watch a dvd movie (oh the horror), and my xubuntu lucid install unmounts the poor drive all by itself, so I can't see the dvd mounted
[04:10] <hanlin> does anyone know how to run a script as a user from the root terminal? I'm trying to automate a script to run when internet connection is detected, but the script runs as root. I don't want the actual script to run with root privelages though.
[04:10] <edbian> phoenix___, That's not a problem ;)
[04:10] <JC> phoenix, why don't you just use a multi IM client?
[04:10] <phoenix___> edbian: wait
[04:10] <onetinsoldier> JC: oh, i see what you mean now. well, is the rocketfish soundcard known to be well supported in Linux?
[04:10] <Daverix> !vc en+14
[04:10] <Daverix> !vc en+14
[04:10] <Yosi> Question: Newbie to Linux here...  former Windows Sevrer person...  in windows, if you don't want to spend hours restoring a backup,OS, MBR, Patches etc.. the easiest way to backup is to take Snapshots, images using something like acronis of your sever.  In linux, can you simply just backup all the files including the OS to a regular backup file or is Snapshot the best way to go too..  I want to be able to recover a
[04:10] <edbian> hanlin, use su as the first line in the script
[04:10] <JC> onetinsoldier, no, but apparently a few people got it to run out of the box.
[04:10] <rww> dr4c4n: alright, I just double-checked: it was transitioned from lucid-proposed to lucid-updates. Do you need instructions for installing from lucid-updates?
[04:10] <Yosi> any suggestions please
[04:10] <edbian> hanlin, Simply script that the script changes user to you or something
[04:10] <rww> Daverix: You're spamming the channel with whatever you're doing. Stop it, please.
[04:10] <madPJKfan> Hi everybody - I get this strange issue where gnome desktop gets caught in "Keyboard mode" and can't use the mouse buttons.  I can navigate around via keyboard arrows etc, but can't seem to escape that mode, and things won't respond to left or right mouse clicks... anyone else seen this?
[04:11] <onetinsoldier> JC: roger... hmm
[04:11] <JC> Yosi, your message got cut off at "I want to be able to recover a"
[04:11] <edbian> hanlin, su is the command to switch user (e.g. su hanlin) does that makes ense?
[04:11] <dr4c4n> rww: I should take off proposed from them first, and I will test it out
[04:11] <edbian> hanlin, s/ense/sense
[04:11] <Stevethepirate> Kevin Cruise is my hero..
[04:11] <dr4c4n> uno momento svp
[04:11] <alem189> does anyone know whats going on with my empathy icon in gnome-panel? it keeps flashing to a black box with a red sign in it.
[04:11] <Quadrescence> it's un moment svp
[04:11] <JC> In all honesty i'm probably gonna return this tomorrow and get a different card from a different store.
[04:11] <Yosi> thank, I want to be able to recover a system in 10 to 20 misn tops..!
[04:11] <hanlin> edbian: i'll try it and get back to you
[04:11] <phoenix___> edbian: i am able to browse the rooms list and select on upon entering chat, at the time of showing the captcha, it hangs, i have the backtrace of wine, could you help me
[04:12] <edbian> hanlin, sure
[04:12] <edbian> phoenix___, I don't think I would be able to offer any help.  That's pretty deep stuff I'd have to research it for about a week first.  MY first inclination is to suggest that you try empathy or pidgin.  They can chat on the yahoo network among many others seamlessly
[04:13] <gbear14275> how do you figure out what package enables a command?  I'm looking to use the brctl command but there is no pacakage called brctl
[04:13] <Yosi> no one has any suggestions for backing up linux?
[04:13] <Yosi> or bare metal recovery in linux?
[04:13] <dr4c4n> rww: the software updates says my installation has been completely updated, however my installation is still not automounting and it's randomly unmounting :(
[04:13] <onetinsoldier> gbear14275: install apt-file
[04:14] <mugiwaranorenato> A good tool for backup is Back In Time
[04:14] <alem189> does anyone know whats going on with my empathy icon in gnome-panel? it keeps flashing to a black box with a red sign in it
[04:14] <inktri> my processors are running at at 100%, but the Processes tab under System Monitor doesn't show any processes running more than a few %. how can I kill these zombie processes?
[04:14] <Dizkonnekted> Yosi it sounds like your looking for something like PING
[04:14] <Yosi> will back in time work on a server
[04:14] <edbian> gbear14275, Alternatively you could search using synaptic or google but apt-file will give the best results
[04:14] <JC> Yosi, you just want a quick recovery method? yeah .
[04:14] <Yosi> yes
[04:14] <Yosi> verty quick recovery for ubuntu servers
[04:14] <Yosi> :)
[04:14] <phoenix___> edbian: i like gyachi very much except that , its fonts are ugly. about pidgin and empathy, in empathy i am not able to get the rooms list for yahoo and in both messengers voice chating is not possible
[04:14] <Yosi> something that will do a full recovery in 10 to 20 mins
[04:14] <Dizkonnekted> Yosi, PING will image an entire disk
[04:15] <onetinsoldier> gbear14275: when installed, then do --> apt-file search brctl
[04:15] <edbian> phoenix___, tu chet
[04:15] <hanlin> edbian: the 'su hanlin' goes in the actual script? when I tried that, it's still running as root
[04:15] <Yosi> is PING easy to use?  will it work on servers?
[04:15] <jjmartin> is there a way to get my touch pad to work without rebooting?
[04:15] <phoenix___> edbian: what
[04:15] <JC> it's french, it's a pretty common idiom used in the states.
[04:16] <JC> its like
[04:16] <Yosi> i will check it out, thanks...
[04:16] <JC> "Ohhh ouch, sting man. Good dis."
[04:16] <Dizkonnekted> Yosi, i would suggest you read up on it from the website, it will work on any partition or entire disk that needs backing up, its also bootable but as far i know doesnt backup over a network
[04:16] <edbian> hanlin, It will probably start as root but the commands after su hanlin should be run as hanlin
[04:16] <edbian> phoenix___, typo: tu che   the french expression
[04:17] <inktri> how can i kill processes that don't show up with "ps" or under the System Monitor?
[04:17] <hanlin> edbian: ok i got it. thanks
[04:17] <edbian> hanlin, awesome
[04:17] <edbian> inktri, ps -e    will list all of the processes
[04:17] <rww> dr4c4n: odd. Can you copy "apt-cache policy hal" to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and link the page it creates here, please?
[04:17] <edbian> inktri, That will give you their names / numbers
[04:17] <rww> dr4c4n: the output of **
[04:17] <phoenix___> edbian: merci
[04:17] <alem189> does anyone know whats going on with my empathy icon in gnome-panel? it keeps flashing to a black box with a red sign in it
[04:18] <dr4c4n> rww: http://paste.ubuntu.com/442576/
[04:18] <Yosi> Sounds like ModoRescue..  I looks into that but people said it wasn't reliable...
[04:19] <Yosi> MondoRescue
[04:19] <onetinsoldier> Yosi: i have another you might want to take a look at... http://geekconnection.org/remastersys/
[04:19] <Yosi> thanks
[04:19] <rww> dr4c4n: alright, that's the right version. You might try restarting and see if that helps, since hal is one of those things that's tied into everything. If not, the original bug report you mentioned earlier would be a good place to ask.
[04:19] <onetinsoldier> Yosi: sure. you're welcome
[04:20] <jjmartin> i made a install disk from the start up disk creator. how can i make it boot directly into the live desktop?
[04:21] <dr4c4n> rww: thank you very much for your help, I will try restarting again, btw this is an upgrade to 10.04 from 9.10, other than the random not automounting, and random unmounting, I like the release, I appreciate your assistance
[04:21] <onetinsoldier> Yosi: i can't speak for it personally as i've never used it. but i've heard good things about it. but for all i know, it requires x-windows. don't know for sure though
[04:22] <phoenix___> edbian: are you there
[04:22] <Yosi> fair enough, i will read up more about it
[04:23] <edbian> phoenix___, Yes
[04:23] <edbian> phoenix___, Why?
[04:23] <phoenix___> edbian: in empathy, i am not able to access the chat rooms list
[04:24] <jannon> Does anyone know how to get wireless internet working with Feisty Fawn on a Mac? (i need wireless 'net to get a newer distro). It's not dual-booted
[04:24] <edbian> phoenix___, I have no idea.  I don't use yahoo so I've never investigated it. :)
[04:24] <edbian> jannon, Why are you using such an old version?
[04:24] <phoenix___> edbian: is there any channel for empathy
[04:24] <edbian> jannon, oops sorry. Didn't see that you need wifi to get a newer distro
[04:25] <jannon> edbian: yep :)
[04:25] <edbian> phoenix___, No, there is the developer mailing list but I don't know if that's the place for tech support.  This is the best channel.  I'm just not the best person for you :)
[04:25] <Dizkonnekted> phoenix__, i think the app your looking for is GyachE, its the best Yahoo client I have found so far
[04:25] <edbian> jannon, does your wireless card show up in the output of sudo ifconfig -a ??
[04:26] <JC> Anyone know how to update the resolution for a computer connected to a TV with the standard monitor cable?
[04:26] <jannon> edbian: no
[04:26] <phoenix___> edbian: ok
[04:27] <trp> does anyone know how to upgrade pulseaudio to 9.15 in ubuntu 9.04.  I tried adding the PPA repository i found for it but apt-get still says 9.14 is the latest version.
[04:27] <edbian> jannon, does it show up in the ouput of sudo lspci -k  ??
[04:28] <gartral> alright, fresh install of 10.04 64 in a vbox vm, last 4 lines: gar.pastebin.com/m7VAFmaC
[04:29] <jannon> edbian: the "-k" part doesn't work, i'm not sure?
[04:29] <edbian> jannon, sudo lspci
[04:29] <edbian> jannon, Old version of the software ;)
[04:30] <jannon> edbian: http://pastebin.com/GnSmUvkz
[04:31] <edbian> jannon, Atheros Communications, Inc. Unknown device 0024
[04:31] <gartral> alright, fresh install of 10.04 64 in a vbox vm (Vbox 3.2.0), last 4 lines: gar.pastebin.com/m7VAFmaC are intresting
[04:32] <edbian> jannon, That's it.
[04:32] <edbian> jannon, You're in deep.  The system doesn't even know what the card is.  I found this guide after a quick googling.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=512828
[04:33] <spvensko_> hi, i'm having issues using my logitech driving force pro in 10.04... has anyone here successfully been able to get it working? is there perhaps a tool somewhere in ubuntu to calibrate it and ensure it's working correctly? thanks
[04:33] <deep> i need help please
[04:33] <edbian> jannon, I suggest though that you just get your hands on a 10.04 live CD somewhere.  You're going to be spending a long time upgrading through the versions.  Fiesty is 7.04, you have to upgrade 1 distro at a time.  7.10, 8.04, 8.10, 9.04, 9.10, 10.04  Each one is going to download 600 MB of stuff and possibly break things.
[04:33] <deep> my system is not playing any video file. neither totem nor VLC player. what could be the issue?
[04:34] <h00k> !multimedia | deep
[04:34] <jannon> edbian: i'm trying to download the 10.04 live cd, but it's going to take too long on my ethernet connection so i need to get wireless working so i can "borrow" a neighbor's much faster connection...
[04:35] <edbian> jannon, Try following the guide
[04:35] <edbian> jannon, That's my only advice.  Good long!
[04:35] <Mattxf86> hey, im needing some help in moving my distro off a sd, onto my pc, since i cant boot from pc
[04:35] <edbian> s/long/luck
[04:35] <onetinsoldier> deep: maybe you need to install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package. i'd also installed ffmeg and x.264 while you're at it. and perhaps winff
[04:35] <edbian> jannon, I offer a bit of warning: it's going to be really hard to do.
[04:36] <Razion> Anyone have experience dealing with multiple programs fighting over who gets to use the sound?
[04:36] <onetinsoldier> deep: close any of those apps out while you install those packages.. just in case
[04:36] <deep> I already has ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:37] <Izinucs> Why does 8.04 LTS not have a prompt to upgrade to 10.04 LTS?
[04:37] <deep> and I also have ffmpeg and x264
[04:37] <deadmaus> hello. i got a new dell inspiron 1564 laptop, which has a i3 processor. should i install the normal 32bit ubuntu or amd64 bit version?
[04:37] <edbian> Izinucs, Go to system -> admin 0
[04:37] <edbian> Izinucs, go to system -> admin -> software sources
[04:38] <onetinsoldier> deep: ok, i'm not certain what needs to be installed... perhaps the libgstreamer stuff. try installing  libgstreamer0.10-0  and  libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0
[04:38] <hanasaki> which vpn software would you suggest and why?  server will be ubuntu... clients will be win/linux/maybeMac
[04:38] <naz> what are other good and popular email clients? ive been a thunderbird user for years now, but since i switched to using imap, i've found that thunderbird just doesn't cut the mustard for imap accounts with a lot of email
[04:38] <JC> Razion, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[04:38] <Mattxf86> Is there a way to move a distro from an sd card to my pc, grub is already installed, just need to get my boot placed a bootable sector
[04:38] <JC> Raizon, halfway down, "Getting more than one application to use the soundcard at the same time"
[04:38] <deadmaus> naz: evolution on linux.
[04:38] <onetinsoldier> deep: that's probably what they're needing :)
[04:38] <edbian> Izinucs, Do you see something about the releases?  It's a drop down menu
[04:38] <Izinucs> edbian: been there and it's set for LTS releases.. if I set it for incremental releases it prompts me that an upgrade to 8.10 is available..
[04:38] <edbian> Izinucs, But it isn't suggesting 10.04??
[04:38] <Izinucs> edbian: nope
[04:38] <naz> deadmaus is evolution available for windows as well?
[04:39] <deadmaus> naz: thunderbird works great with imap for me.. massive amounts of email too, and from 4 mailboxes. 3 imap, 1 pop
[04:39] <deadmaus> naz: no
[04:39] <Izinucs> edbian: it did this on another machine as well.
[04:39] <edbian> Izinucs, Then that's all I got for ya!  Sorry, that's odd.
[04:39] <onetinsoldier> Izinucs: you're running 8.04?
[04:39] <edbian> Izinucs, Have you seen it act correctly?
[04:39] <Izinucs> onetinsoldier: yep
[04:39] <deadmaus> naz: if you are looking at windows, then it will be outlook, thunderbird and eudora(old)\
[04:39] <naz> deadmaus i have about 6 accounts, each with >20 mailboxes, some mailboxes have 20,000 or more mails (they're mailing lists)
[04:39] <Izinucs> edbian: what do you mean "act correctly"?  ..
[04:39] <onetinsoldier> Izinucs: have you tried  sudo do-release-upgrade  ?
[04:39] <gartral> alright, fresh install of 10.04 64 in a vbox vm (Vbox 3.2.0), last 4 lines: gar.pastebin.com/m7VAFmaC are intresting
[04:39] <disk1of5> hi all quick question, if i use ubuntu 10.4 to create a LVM raid 5 and then format the host OS, and want to restore the raid array.. is it possible?
[04:40] <Izinucs> onetinsoldier: nope.. before doing that I'll probably just reinstall via cd
[04:40] <edbian> Izinucs, Have you seen an ubuntu 8.04 system upgrade straight to 10.04 ??
[04:40] <deadmaus> naz: believe me, using ms outlook (the other popular email client) will be worse
[04:40] <Docteh> hanasaki: really depends on what you're using the VPN for, tunneling through ssh might work for you, or maybe openvpn, also "poptop"
[04:40] <Mattxf86> im trying to take my distro off my sd card, where do i need to put it in my pc. in order for grub to find it
[04:40] <naz> deadmaus but i' find that thunderbird 3 spends a huge amount of time downloading unknown "stuff"... i've switched offline sync off
[04:40] <edbian> Izinucs, I admit that I thought you could but maybe you simply can't?
[04:40] <hanasaki> poptop?
[04:40] <Izinucs> edbian: you're suppose to be able to go from one LTS to the next with no issue..
[04:40] <deadmaus> naz: i've colleagues at work who have similar sort of emails - and it takes ages, compared to imap
[04:40] <deadmaus> er, compared to thunderbird
[04:40] <edbian> Izinucs, I thought so too
[04:40] <onetinsoldier> Izinucs: hmm? you don't even want to try  do-release-upgrade  ?  perhaps i missed something
[04:40] <naz> deadmaus tb2 worked fine for me... they seem to have screwed it all up with their attempt at being clever with offline sync
[04:40] <deadmaus> naz: but not sure what thunderbird is doing when it tries to sync the accounts
[04:40] <hanasaki> Docteh:  poptop vs pptpd?
[04:41] <Docteh> hanasaki: ya that
[04:41] <deadmaus> naz: hm. also could be the funky indexing in thunderbird 3. it indexes headers, etc once downloaded
[04:41] <Izinucs> onetinsoldier: could.. but doing an upgrade online is a lot slower than simply reinstalling.. espicially if I have a separate /home partition.
[04:41] <hanasaki> Docteh:  looks like different sofware?
[04:41] <onetinsoldier> Izinucs: ahhh, roger
[04:41] <Docteh> poptop might be client :-/
[04:42] <Razion> JT: I think it has something to do with Phonon, actually. Amarok and Dragon player can both play at the same time, but not Amarok/DP and Firefox/various games/etc.
[04:42] <naz> deadmaus yea i get "downloading headers" for up to 15 minutes when opening thunderbird... it'd be ok if it only happened once, but it does that all the time... also long waits when indexing
[04:42] <Razion> JC: I think it has something to do with Phonon, actually. Amarok and Dragon player can both play at the same time, but not Amarok/DP and Firefox/various games/etc.
[04:42] <onetinsoldier> deep: so did that work? any luck?
[04:42] <Izinucs> onetinsoldier: is there and ubottu factoid for current compatable ATI cards?  I've got an old one in this machine and would hate to be put in the position of having to yank it.
[04:42] <naz> deadmaus like i said... i've turned offline sync off so it should only need to cache the message headers
[04:42] <deadmaus> naz: well, earlier i used to read email from imap with gnus, or mutt. but been using thunderbird for a while. would hate to move clients again.
[04:42] <Docteh> Razion: blame pulse audio! ;)
[04:43] <onetinsoldier> Izinucs: just the link to the HCL
[04:43] <deadmaus> naz: try asking in the thunderbird channel on irc.mozilla.org, see if they have some tips for settings for imap
[04:43] <onetinsoldier> !hcl
[04:43] <Razion> Docteh: Fresh install of 10.04. :P Any idea how to kill the thing? Even uninstalling pulse didn't help.
[04:43] <naz> deadmaus yea ive been there... the irc channel is about as alive as a 3 day old cow carcase
[04:43] <olejo> Hi, can someone point me in the direction of a webcam package to use, I have a webcam and ant to set skype up ?
[04:43] <Izinucs> onetinsoldier: what's HCL?
[04:43] <deadmaus> naz: ms outlook that comes with Office 2010 beta is nice. in the way it organises a lot of things, but it is still slow when you do "send/receive"
[04:43] <deadmaus> naz: yikes
[04:44] <onetinsoldier> Izinucs: Hardware Compatibility List
[04:44] <JC> Does anyone know anything about having their desktops hooked up to their TV? My samsung is a 62 inch and supports HD, but the resolution can't be set above 800 by 600
[04:44] <Izinucs> onetinsoldier: where's that?
[04:44] <onetinsoldier> !hcl | Izinucs
[04:44] <CaptainTrek> JC: could be because of your video card
[04:44] <Razion> Docteh: Fresh install of 10.04. :P Any idea how to kill the thing? Even uninstalling pulse didn't help.
[04:44] <CaptainTrek> JC: you checked to see if you have the updated drivers fer your card?
[04:44] <gartral> JC: how are you attaching your graphics card to your tv?
[04:44] <Izinucs> onetinsoldier: thanks.. :)
[04:44] <JC> CaptainTrek, gartral, it's all integrated.  How do I check ?
[04:44] <edbian> JC, Does your card support your monitor at higher resolutions?
[04:45] <Docteh> olejo: run lspci and try googling the device id + linux and see what driver it is
[04:45] <naz> deadmaus which is why i'm sadly taking the step of investigating alternatives... i think the tb2 -> tb3 change screwed up tb for imap
[04:45] <onetinsoldier> Izinucs: sure, you welcome. what model of ati is it?
[04:45] <Docteh> Razion: i dunno, pulse audio loves me for some reason :)
[04:45] <gartral> JC: how is your TV "intergrated" into your computer?
[04:45] <CaptainTrek> JC: System > Administration  > Hardware Drivers
[04:45] <deadmaus> naz: tell me if you find some clients that can handle the volumes and imap/pop
[04:45] <CaptainTrek> gartral: he means his vid card
[04:45] <Razion> Docteh: Well, then. Any clue as how to set it up properly?
[04:45] <Docteh> Razion: ps -ef|grep pulse and look for like pulsed or pulse<some more letters>d
[04:45] <JC> Gartal, no, the video card is.
[04:45] <olejo> Thanks
[04:46] <Docteh> Razion: well if some apps dont support pulse audio theres a padsp wrapper you can use
[04:46] <Izinucs> onetinsoldier: Radeon 9600 and the list only references Hoary Hedghog and breezy badger.. a little out of date
[04:46] <gartral> JC: ok.. but you still haven'tanswered my question
[04:46] <Razion> Docteh: Where might I find that wrapper?
[04:46] <naz> deadmaus i doubt i'll find any ones that you dont already know about... since i started using tb in about 2001 when i moved from outlook i havent looked around coz i was happy with what i had
[04:46] <CaptainTrek> JC: how are you connecting it to your TV? what type of cable?
[04:46] <onetinsoldier> Izinucs: roger. don't know if that will be supported by one of the open source driver in Lucid or not
[04:46] <gartral> alright, fresh install of 10.04 64 in a vbox vm (Vbox 3.2.0), last 4 lines: gar.pastebin.com/m7VAFmaC are intresting
[04:47] <JC> gartral, edbian missed your question in the flood of messages, sorry. I've got your standard vga monitor cable, I can get much higher res if I connect it to a monitor
[04:47] <deadmaus> naz: hehe, its sad there arent many alternatives by way of email clients
[04:47] <JC> Captaintrek, same as above.
[04:47] <Izinucs> onetinsoldier: oh well.. at least I've got a backup Nvidia agp card lying around here..
[04:47] <Docteh> Razion: it should be in apt, sudo apt-get install padsp
[04:47] <CaptainTrek> JC: hrm...  again, check your drivers
[04:47] <edbian> JC, Because your video card supports a high resolution on your monitor using the same connection it is clear that either it is probing the TV and getting bad info or the TV really does support only 800x600 res
[04:47] <JC> gartral, captaintrek, and edbian, accoding to the "hardware drivers" app, "No proprietary drivers are in use on this system."
[04:48] <Razion> Docteh: Couldn't find the package.
[04:48] <JC> The TV is HD, I've been playing my 360 in HD for years.
[04:48] <gartral> JC: ok, do a lspci | grep VGA
[04:48] <Razion> Docteh: You using 10.04 as well?
[04:48] <edbian> JC, But the driver for the card is fine.  You're not connecting the TV and monitor at the same time are you?
[04:49] <Docteh> i dont have it booted right now, hit up packages.ubuntu.com and use the second search box where it looks for files
[04:49] <gartral> edbian: i think i might have a solution for him either way, but i need to know if it's a Intel GMA card or not
[04:49] <JC> Gartral, response from lspci is 00:01.0 VGA compatable controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27)
[04:49] <gartral> ohh crap
[04:49] <edbian> gartral, k
[04:49] <edbian> gartral, ha ha ha
[04:49] <JC> edbian, no, not at the same time. I have one video output.
[04:50] <JC> gartral, yeah it's onboard. not the best lol.
[04:50] <naz> deadmaus email isn't sexy any more... people are too busy coding facebook apps and equally pointless things
[04:51] <naz> deadmaus there's always opera i guess
[04:51] <JC> gartral, edbian, captaintrek, any ideas?
[04:52] <gartral> JC: [not just that.. ATI Rage cards have crap for support in linux]  OOOOOK... this is the "hard" way: connect to tv and start a console, do randr 1920x1080x0x0 (I think, if that fails, reverse the first two figures) and see if that helps
[04:52] <Jordan_U> JC: What connection / cable are you using to connect your computer to the TV?
[04:52] <edbian> Jordan_U, VGA
[04:52] <edbian> Jordan_U, He just told me
[04:52] <gartral> Jordan_U: VGA
[04:52] <CaptainTrek> Jordan_U:  you're behind. he's using typical VGA
[04:52] <edbian> ha ha
[04:52] <edbian> Jordan_U, Did you get that?
[04:52] <Docteh> "randr"?
[04:52] <edbian> xrandr
[04:53] <edbian> ?
[04:53] <gartral> Docteh: Resize AND Rotate
[04:53] <JC> gartral, apparently randr isn't a command
[04:53] <Docteh> theres an xrandr, dunno about just randr
[04:53] <gartral> JC: sorry, xrandr
[04:54] <JC> it gives me a very big amount of crap
[04:54] <JC> what do I do now
[04:54] <Docteh> Razion: pulseaudio-utils
[04:55] <gartral> JC: pastebin said "crap" for analasis
[04:55] <JC> kk
[04:55] <gartral> !pastebin | JC
[04:55] <mzuverink> how can I take a 10.4 lucid .iso image and make it installable of a thumbdrive?
[04:55] <codebrainz> hi.  I'm running 9.04, i have the binutils package installed.  does anyone know how i can run or where i can find 'gas' (GNU Assembler)?
[04:56] <Docteh> codebrainz: do a search on packages.ubuntu.com
[04:56] <gartral> alright, fresh install of 10.04 64 in a vbox vm (Vbox 3.2.0), last 4 lines: gar.pastebin.com/m7VAFmaC are intresting
[04:56] <onetinsoldier> mzuverink: try this tool, but i think it still takes a fair amount of work. there is a gui though. note: i've never tried it myself --> http://geekconnection.org/remastersys/index.html
[04:56] <JC> paste.ubuntu.com/442586
[04:56] <JC> http://paste.ubuntu.com/443586
[04:56] <JC> sorry.
[04:56] <Docteh> oh thats odd, just lists a doc
[04:57] <Docteh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/442586/
[04:57] <mzuverink> onetinsoldier, thanks
[04:58] <gartral> JC: oops ok xrandr -s 1920x1080x0x0
[04:58] <drknzz> Hi guys! I have an Acer 4540 laptop, sound works well, but recording doesnt
[04:58] <codebrainz> Docteh, no dice, nothing useful returned in the package search, except for http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/binutils
[04:58] <onetinsoldier> mzuverink: sure. you're welcome. here is where it looks like you can download it --> http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/repository/ubuntu/
[04:58] <Docteh> codebrainz: it might not be in 9.04
[04:58] <JC> drknzz, what program are you using to record, and are you using an interface?
[04:58] <drknzz> JC, neither skype nor arecord nor gnome-sound-recorder :S
[04:59] <gartral> drknzz: what about sox?
[04:59] <JC> drknzz, what are you trying to record?
[04:59] <drknzz> JC, uhmmmm, my voice? :D
[04:59] <disk1of5> hey all quick question i just re-built my array but forgot one drive..  so i did mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 /dev/sd[b-d]1     but now i want to add sde1 into the existing array.. any ideas?
[04:59] <drknzz> gartral, sox? ill apt-url it
[04:59] <JC> drknzz, oh ok, so you're just going to use it to talk, not record music, I was gonna say.
[05:00] <Docteh> codebrainz: also you can have it search the distro you're using, good for when they shuffle packages around for fun
[05:00] <gartral> !sox | drknzz
[05:00] <drknzz> JC :D
[05:00] <Docteh> disk1of5: what type of raid is it
[05:00] <disk1of5> Docteh, raid5
[05:00] <JC> drknzz, you may need to check your audio settings, what comes up for the input driver?
[05:00] <meat> Question, freenas or ubuntu server?
[05:00] <gartral> !nifo sox | drknzz
[05:00] <deadmaus> on a laptop with an intel i3 processor, should i be installing the 64 bit or the 32 bit version of ubuntu?
[05:00] <gartral> !info sox | drknzz
[05:00] <disk1of5> Docteh, i know i don't need it but its set up as a spare
[05:00] <JC> gartral, any luck from the pastebin?
[05:00] <onetinsoldier> mzuverink: well, i just downloaded it an noticed a problem. it wants to uninstall grub-pc. so it might not be any good for use in Lucid 10.04
[05:01] <mzuverink> onetinsoldier, I found a utiliitty in ubuntu to do it, in admin, called create startup disk
[05:01] <gartral> JC: lastlog my posts, i said what to do
[05:01] <drknzz> JC, internal audio and ATi HD4200 HDMI
[05:01] <Docteh> disk1of5: i think you can add it as a spare and then tell mdadm you want to add a drive to the amount thats required
[05:01] <onetinsoldier> mzuverink: roger. good deal
[05:02] <JC> drknzz, assuming this is all integrated? sometimes the HDMI driver takes control over the whole sound system.
[05:03] <drknzz> JC, i dont know man :s, never messed around with ALSA a lot b4
[05:03] <codebrainz> Docteh, it shows it's supposed to be in the binutils package for karmic and lucid, i have 9.10 whichever that is.
[05:03] <JC> gartral, I don't see it, You told me to xrandr and to pastebin, so I did, I see nothing to do in between that and what I said
[05:03] <onetinsoldier> mzuverink: i misread your original question. my bad. use the utility you found, or, you can use 'unetbootin'. it does the same thing too
[05:03] <Docteh> !karmic
[05:03] <gartral> JC: oops ok xrandr -s 1920x1080x0x0
[05:03] <mzuverink> onetinsoldier, thanks though, someone told me there was a utility, I just did not think it was that, I was wrong!
[05:03] <JC> drknzz, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting?action=show&redirect=DebuggingSoundProblems
[05:04] <gartral> JC: did you get it that time?
[05:04] <thamz> can anyone recommend a website/book to learn about linux kernel?
[05:04] <Docteh> codebrainz: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=gas&mode=exactfilename&suite=karmic&arch=any i just see it listing something in a doc directory vs a bin directory
[05:04] <dr4c4n> thamz: what are you looking to learn?
[05:05] <JC> gartral it says that size isn't available.
[05:05] <codebrainz> Docteh, yea, that's how it is on my fs as well.  wtf!?  the gnu assembly is a pretty fundamental piece of software, i must be missing something
[05:05] <disk1of5> Docteh, thnx!
[05:06] <thamz> dr4c4n, I just want to get some understanding of how the kernel works, the directory structure of linux, etc
[05:06] <rww> codebrainz: it's in binutils as /usr/bin/as
[05:07] <rww> codebrainz: no g :)
[05:07] <JC> gartral, neither are 1280 and 1024 (and their respective wides)
[05:07] <Docteh> ohhhhhhhhh
[05:07] <codebrainz> rww, bless you!  i normally use nasm
[05:07] <JC> with a monitor this thing reaches 1440
[05:07] <gartral> JC: sudo apt-get install grandr and that will give you a gui for xrandr
[05:08] <dr4c4n> thamz: in general o'reilly books are pretty good
[05:08] <Ebuntu> uhh could someone help me out with accessing networks using ubuntu? ive spent the past two days trying to get the laptop to connect to the internet. I have a Compaq Presario V5304US and i have ndiswrapper installed.
[05:08] <deadmaus> why does it say "not recommended for daily desktop usage" for the 64 bit version on http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download?
[05:08] <JC> Ebuntu, ah yes, wifi with laptops. TONS of fun. what's you're wifi adapter called (you can see the driver in windows)
[05:08] <thamz> dr4c4n, thanks, i'll try
[05:09] <gartral> deadmaus: cause the 64bit ubuntu has problems
[05:09] <codebrainz> rww, aparently it used to be called gas, cuz this makefile insists!  :)  thanks
[05:09] <jason201> I use 64 bit daily and haven't run into any problems, nothing major anyway
[05:09] <deadmaus> gartral: oh. i have a intel i3 processor. should i just install the 32 bit version?
[05:09] <JC> gartral, accomplished, the only available modes are lower than 800x600
[05:09] <gartral> deadmaus: depends, what did you need this computer for?
[05:10] <JC> deadmaus, also how much ram you have, if you don't have a shit ton you don't really need 64 bit
[05:10] <deadmaus> gartral: its a laptop. use it for internet - browser, email client, music, openoffice, etc etc
[05:10] <deadmaus> JC: not a lot. 4gb, on a laptop
[05:10] <gartral> deadmaus: 32bit
[05:11] <deadmaus> gartral: ok, i'll go for the 32bit then
[05:11] <dr4c4n> thamz: there's also
[05:11] <dr4c4n> lxr.linux.no and kernelbook.sourceforge.net, just a google search brought those two up
[05:11] <Mertz`> has anyone ever heard of the ubuntu installer saying something like "unable to install bootloader on this partition, please select a different partition"?
[05:12] <gartral> JC: you'll have to make a new mode.. i suggest reading man xrandr
[05:12] <JC> deadmaus, Pros and cons
[05:12] <JC> A common misconception is that 64-bit architectures are no better than 32-bit architectures unless the computer has more than 4 GB of main memory. This is not entirely true:
[05:12] <JC> System architecture on Intel x86/32-bit architecture limits virtual memory space to 3 GB, not 4 GB, due to much of the 3–4 GB region being reserved for hardware addressing; see 3 GB barrier. This is not present in 64-bit architectures, which can use 4 GB of memory and more. However x86 processors from the Pentium II onwards allow for a 36-bit physical memory address space, using Physical Address Extension, which gives a 64 GB physical address r
[05:12] <JC> of which up to 62 GB may be used by main memory.
[05:12] <FloodBot1> JC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:12] <Ebuntu> can i type something into terminal to find out what type of adapter is in the laptop?
[05:13] <JC> deadmaus , read this. Pros and cons of 32 vs 64 http://paste.ubuntu.com/442590/
[05:13] <Jordan_U> Mertz`: No, and Ubuntu's installer shouldn't be installing grub to partitions in the first place. Are you doing a guided or advanced install? What is the exact error message?
[05:13] <deadmaus> JC: thanks
[05:13] <JC> Ebuntu, yeah, type lspci
[05:13] <Mertz`> Jordan_U: I'ts the guided, I'm working on redoing it so I can get the exact message
[05:13] <Docteh> wow long
[05:13] <JC> gartral, i'll give it a try thanks
[05:13] <davidm__> Is it inappropriate to ask Apache questions here (new 10.04 install)?  I don't want to be pushing questions in the wrong area (I'm fearing this might be a bit of a trolling message).
[05:13] <jason201> can anyone help me figure out how to get rid of some of my osd notifications?
[05:13] <thamz> dr4c4n, thanks for the info, i'll check them :)
[05:14] <Docteh> davidm__: worst we'll do is tell you to bug #apache ;)
[05:14] <njrabit> 64-bit code is more efficient than 32-bit code
[05:14] <Guest41577> I have never IRC chatted before
[05:14] <davidm__> Docteh: Ha - there's on one over there anyway :-)
[05:14] <njrabit> hwinfo (or hwinv?) is a neat tool
[05:15] <deadmaus> 1 hr before the iso downloads :(
[05:15] <Ebuntu> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[05:15] <JC> deadmaus, watch an episode of The Fringe, it'll take an hour.
[05:15] <dr4c4n> thamz: yw
[05:15] <deadmaus> JC: :)
[05:16] <codebrainz> deadmaus, it takes like 10 minutes with the torrent, if you inet is decent
[05:16] <JC> Ebuntu, mmm. broadcom. these are always fun.
[05:16] <JC> Edbuntu, hold on a second, I'll get you a link
[05:16] <Ebuntu> ok
[05:16] <deadmaus> codebrainz: yeah, using a torrent. net's not fast.. about 1.5mbps
[05:16] <collectek> im building a ubuntu custom live cd for school through remastersys
[05:17] <codebrainz> deadmaus, ah.  not sure what i have, but it was going at around 1000kbps
[05:17] <deadmaus> wow
[05:17] <davidm__> I'm trying to get /home/USER/public_html to work and having no luck.  Used the a2enmod to add 'userdir', chmod -R 777 /public_html and still getting 'you don't have permission'.  Any ideas/sites-to-look-at?
[05:17] <onetinsoldier> collectek: i've been reading about that a little. looks fairly involved
[05:17] <codebrainz> deadmaus, it's just run-of-the-mill cable internet
[05:17] <RoDiMuS-X> whats the command to edit the gnome menu? gnome-menu
[05:17] <FyreFoX> running lucid 64bit are there any printer drivers for canon/brother/HP/other where you dont have to install the 32bit libs?
[05:17] <rww> RoDiMuS-X: alacarte
[05:18] <RoDiMuS-X> thanks rww
[05:18] <JC> edbuntu, in the terminal, type (with no quotes) " sudo apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter"
[05:18] <Docteh> davidm__: check /home and /home/you for an execute bit, like: chmod a+x ~
[05:18] <codebrainz> collectek, it's not that difficult, tons and tons and tons of tutorials on the net.  best one is in the ubuntu site
[05:19] <collectek> onenetinsoldier: nope very simple after you add the repo
[05:19] <JC> edbuntu, or search for "bcm43xx-fwcutter" in the package manager. if all else fails, use this with ndiswrapper, it's an old tutorial, but still relevant. Wifi with a lot of laptops using broadcom has been a major pain in the ass for a lot of us. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=285809
[05:19] <onetinsoldier> collectek: hmm, ok. cool :-)
[05:19] <Ebuntu> JC, could you link me to a .deb package? im on a PC at the moment
[05:20] <Docteh> Ebuntu: packages.ubuntu.com is quite handy for that
[05:20] <Ebuntu> ill look there
[05:20] <collectek> +very customizable for ciriculum work
[05:20] <rww> JC, Ebuntu: It's called b43-fwcutter, and you need Internet access to install it because it asks to download firmware.
[05:21] <mikey_> hi all
[05:22] <mikey_> does anyone know how to install adobe flash??
[05:22] <collectek> i
[05:22] <collectek> im back
[05:22] <JC> rww, ebuntu, I'm aware of the program, I assumed there was an ability to connect LAN to the router in Ubuntu, not the best assumption though , sorry
[05:22] <RoDiMuS-X> mikey_ : http://www.adobe.com
[05:22] <mikey_> doesd any one know how to install adobe flash in ubentu?
[05:23] <codebrainz> mikey_, http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
[05:23] <mikey_> i wen tthere but its not owrking
[05:23] <onetinsoldier> mikey_: install the 'flashplugin-installer' package
[05:23] <Semperfi30> Hey GSF1200S, How's it goin'?
[05:23] <collectek> official site has it as well
[05:23] <JC> mikey, are you trying to use firefox? when you go to youtube or something it'll say you're missing plugins, then it'll install them
[05:23] <collectek> yep
[05:24] <mikey_> i tried that too
[05:24] <collectek> what bappens?
[05:24] <mikey_> probelm is im trying to webcam on cam 4 and you need flash  lol
[05:24] <collectek> or java?
[05:24] <mikey_> jav installed ok
[05:26] <Semperfi30> So guys
[05:26] <collectek> does a site like youtube come up ok or what are the steps taken to knstall flash?
[05:26] <collectek> any errors?
[05:26] <mikey_> youtube.com
[05:26] <mikey_> oops lol
[05:26] <ne0futur> hi all i have questions concerning the use of UUID in ubuntu for fstab
[05:27] <Semperfi30> I've got Ubuntu installed and everything but, sometimes when I tell it to shutdown it won't shutdown properly. Sometimes I have to force a shutdown or restart through the terminal for it to do it properly. ANd sometimes when I come back, my sound doesn't work and it says theres a "Dummy" output or something......
[05:27] <ne0futur> this UUID is different for any  distro i install on my computer, so I think this UUID have nothing universal
[05:27] <mikey_> i get an error  ooccured please try later
[05:27] <ne0futur> and that /dev/sd* was MUCH more universal than this UUID system
[05:27] <ne0futur> so I wonder why ubuntu use this false universal identifier ?
[05:28] <codebrainz> ne0futur, i think it's unique to the system/bus/disk
[05:28] <JC> well,  i'm gonna head out guys. My sound issue is gonna be fixed by a new sound card, and my video issue I figured out is on the TV's end, I have to call the support line tomorrow at samsung. Thanks to anyone who tried to help, and I hope I helped some of you! Goodnight all.
[05:28] <ne0futur> so if I have 2 ubuntu on my diskm i cant chroot from 1 ubuntu to the other cause they have different UUID ?
[05:28] <Semperfi30> An example of the odd behavior is when it shuts down, it will freeze on the 3rd dot of the ubuntu logo when it shutsdown
[05:28] <ne0futur> this UUID system in fstab will create much more problems than it is useful
[05:28] <Semperfi30> (This is Lucid Linux btw)
[05:29] <mikey_> *****WHEN I GO TO YOU TUBE  SAYS AN ERROR ACCOURED  AND DOESNT GIVE ME OPTION TO INSTALL ADOBE
[05:29] <RoDiMuS-X> mikey_: what browser you using?
[05:29] <codebrainz> ne0futur, i don't think that would make any difference, /etc/fstab isn't used during a chroot afaik
[05:29] <ricqles> you must install ubuntu manually
[05:29] <ricqles> euh flash sorry
[05:29] <collectek> mickey_ : if that is happening on an install of flash i would say try to run it in terminal so you can see the exact error
[05:30] <pat5star> I know this is #ubuntu, but I'm just curious about gmail because I've been having on/off problems with it for a week or so, ever since upgrade to lucid. is that a coincidence or are others having problems too. anyone with a gmail account, can you connect right now?
[05:30] <mikey_> HOW DO I RUN IN TERMANL?
[05:30] <Semperfi30> Anybody have any clue whats going on here? Maybe  I need to re-install Ubuntu?
[05:30] <codebrainz> ne0futur, the whole point is that you can move disks around and such and it'll always use the correct drive for that install, rather than using the /dev/sd* which change depending on where the disk is plugged in/configured
[05:30] <FyreFoX> mikey_: turn caps off.
[05:30] <ricqles> sudo apt-get install flashplayer-plugin
[05:30] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star: yeah no problems, have you tried cleaning out your cookies and cache
[05:30] <ricqles> mikey_,
[05:30] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: yes, and thanks
[05:31] <mikey_> how do i copie n pasdte that
[05:31] <ricqles> in a terminal :)
[05:31] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star: I am using Chrome so i dont know about firefox
[05:31] <Semperfi30> Sooo codebrainz...FyreFoX...ricqles...RoDiMuS-X any ideas?
[05:31] <ne0futur> codebrainz: installing 2 ubuntu on the same disk will give 2 different UUID for the SAME partition !
[05:32] <ne0futur> this is mad
[05:32] <mikey_> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-plugin
[05:32] <pat5star> I'm using firefox and I do have quite a few google labs enabled so I'm wondering where to begin troubleshooting this. it would be so much easier if you all just told me none of you can connect right now either ;)
[05:32] <mikey_> i use both
[05:32] <ne0futur> and have nothing universal
[05:32] <mikey_> any idea?
[05:32] <mikey_> eading package lists... Done
[05:32] <mikey_> Building dependency tree
[05:32] <mikey_> Reading state information... Done
[05:32] <mikey_> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-plugin
[05:32] <mikey_> mikey@ubuntu:~$
[05:32] <FloodBot1> mikey_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:32] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star: see if it happens in another browser first just my opinion
[05:32] <ne0futur> and breaks many things that were working before, like chrooting fron one ubuntu instance to another
[05:32] <Docteh> pat5star: install some other browser and check it like that is what i'd do
[05:32] <codebrainz> ne0futur, it works pretty well actually.  if you'd rather, you can replace UUID= with LABEL= and use the volume label
[05:33] <FyreFoX> Semperfi30: perhaps hardware. did you have a previous ubuntu on that harwdare?
[05:33] <Docteh> chromium-browser for instance, might have to force the default back to firefox afterwards though
[05:33] <onetinsoldier> mikey_: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer
[05:33] <Semperfi30> I had 9.04
[05:33] <Semperfi30> but I erased the partition
[05:33] <ricqles> oh your sources.list not fully configured
[05:33] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfl30, so you installed 10.04 fresh
[05:33] <codebrainz> ne0futur, i don't think /etc/fstab is parsed during a chroot, unless you mount -a i suppose
[05:33] <ricqles> i'm sorry i must go on my job
[05:33] <Semperfi30> FyreFoX: I also checked my sound cards "Realtek" with the listing on Ubuntu Wiki and it checks out as working OOB normally
[05:34] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: just tried with konqueror, same error: The requested URL "/mail/", is invalid.
[05:34] <Semperfi30> RoDiMuS-X: Yes I installed it over 9.04 due to the fact that I couldn't locate the Sudo password
[05:34] <Semperfi30> Basically a fresh install by erasing the previous partition and installing Lucid fresh
[05:34] <ricqles> have a good day and search for add lines for adobe container in your source.list
[05:34] <ne0futur> there are thousands of people having problems wit this _not_ _universal_ UUID system
[05:35] <ne0futur> I just wanted to say this
[05:35] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi30, hmm are you sure the previous partition was erased and not just installed on top of, i did that once
[05:35] <bricky> hey I got a problem with docky , says it requires 'composting' to work properly
[05:35] <ne0futur> I ll fond workarounds , but the best workaround will be to find a distro not using the UUID system in fstab . . .
[05:35] <Semperfi30> Yes because in Gparted I told it to format the partition
[05:35] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star: hmm thats weird
[05:35] <Semperfi30> Although i will say when I boot into GRUB it shows two different Ubuntu installatiosn however I don't see how that would influence anything as I pick the first one everytime
[05:36] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi30, what kernel are you using the 21 or 22
[05:36] <Semperfi30> How do I know (FYI I'm on Windows atm)
[05:36] <rww> bricky: activate compiz, metacity compositing, or another compositor, then
[05:36] <danfor> boa noite
[05:36] <codebrainz> ne0futur, what exactly is your problem?  it's universally unique on your system, and allows you to shuffle around drives without having to touch /etc/fstab.  it's really a nice feature
[05:37] <mikey_> still get error in you tube!
[05:37] <danfor> good night for all
[05:37] <bricky> rw: okay.
[05:37] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi30, open a terminal and type uname -a
[05:37] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: you don't know the half of it lol. It's been working fine all day and just a few minutes ago this came up. It's been happening off and on a ~week. If I just wait, it'll start working again, but it could be a few minutes to an hour or so :(
[05:37] <dr4c4n> good night all
[05:37] <bricky> I hear I just have to do 'compiz --replace' to make it start automatically??
[05:37] <onetinsoldier> mikey_: try restarting firefox now that you've installed flash
[05:38] <Docteh> bricky: worst it'd do is come back with "bloopity bloop thats not right"
[05:38] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star: i would try the html version and see if that gives you the same error
[05:38] <mikey_> ok let me try
[05:38] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: what is the url?
[05:38] <bricky> Docteh : lol
[05:38] <Semperfi40> I'm back
[05:38] <bricky> is there a better way?
[05:38] <bricky> wb Semperfi40
[05:38] <Semperfi40> RoDiMuS-X: Did you get my last message I got disconnected.
[05:38] <mikey_> still same error an error has occured
[05:39] <onetinsoldier> mikey_: i don't know then
[05:39] <Docteh> bricky: theres an option under setttings somewhere, but I'm not so good with guis
[05:39] <yalex> hi, I'm noticing that network manager isn't being restarted when I suspend my laptop.  Which package has the script to restore NetworkManager in pm-utils?
[05:39] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star, i can't click the link the page loads too fast let me see
[05:39] <bricky> Dotech: :)
[05:39] <bricky> docteh :P
[05:39] <onetinsoldier> mikey_: maybe someone else will have an idea of what's wrong
[05:39] <mikey_> does anyone know?
[05:39] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: lol, nice problem to have :)
[05:40] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi30, Yeah I got it, when your in ubuntu, open a terminal window and type uname -a
[05:40] <codebrainz> mikey_, the flash thing?
[05:40] <bricky> how can you not be good with gui, lmao :P
[05:40] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: I live in a very remote area and connect via satellite, so I suppose my problem could be there too
[05:40] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi30, 2.6.32-22-generic is what kernel i am using
[05:40] <mikey_> yes
[05:40] <mikey_> driving me nuts!
[05:40] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star, DNS problem possibly
[05:40] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: but with satellite, a page loading too fast is seldom an issue ;)
[05:40] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: I run my own DNS server
[05:40] <Docteh> bricky: i always have to poke around a bit to find options, every. single. time.
[05:41] <bricky> lol
[05:41] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star, that could be your problem lol
[05:41] <codebrainz> mikey_, you can try to install it manually, extract the libflashplayer.so file and put it all of the many mozilla/chrome folders, google for where they are (ie. ~/.mozilla is one i think).  then restart your browser
[05:41] <bricky> try windows 7 control panel, drove me instane
[05:41] <bricky> insane*
[05:41] <Docteh> well you can search it now
[05:41] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: lol I've tested that already, and changed my resolv.conf to try other dns servers and still have same problem too
[05:41] <collectek> mickey_: if it was me i would run the adobe . deb and uninstall flash.... reboot the pc and then run the aptitude install
[05:42] <mikey_> where do i get the file?
[05:42] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star, here is the basic page for gmail http://mail.google.com/mail?nocheckbrowser
[05:42] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: cool ty...I'll try that now\
[05:43] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star, if that doesn't work might have another one
[05:43] <collectek> from the adobe website. lets see if i can pull an address with my ipod lol
[05:43] <codebrainz> mikey_, http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/
[05:43] <Semperfi40> RoDiMuS-X: Maybe I should just re-install ubuntu again...Is there some diagnostic program I can run to figure out whats causing these issues I'm having?
[05:43] <collectek> ty
[05:43] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: The requested URL "/mail?nocheckbrowser", is invalid. :(
[05:43] <datakid> hey, when I start a vid via dbl click, my whole screen goes black before totem starts?
[05:43] <codebrainz> mikey_, get the .tar.gz one and extract the .so from it
[05:43] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star, do you get the gmail login screen?
[05:43] <demititan> anyone familiar with Back Track 4 ?
[05:43] <mikey_> linux?
[05:43] <rww> !derivatives | demititan
[05:44] <codebrainz> mikey_, ummm yes :)
[05:44] <collectek> demititan: a little
[05:44] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi40, if you type dmesg you can see your boot up logs
[05:44] <mikey_> lol
[05:44] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: when I check my dns: mail.google.com has address <IP_ADDRESS>, mail.google.com is an alias for googlemail.l.google.com.
[05:44] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star, let me check mine
[05:44] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: nope I don't get anything but that error message
[05:44] <Semperfi40> pat5star: This is the proper link: http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&nobrowsercheck=1
[05:45] <codebrainz> mikey_, i think /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ is the system-wide directory
[05:45] <deadmaus> why are you posting a google mail link?
[05:45] <pat5star> Semperfi40: ty, but it gives me this: The requested URL "/mail/?ui=2&nobrowsercheck=1", is invalid.
[05:45] <Semperfi40> Is it because of your location?
[05:45] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star, I have 5 ip address's, here is one <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:45] <iamchris> Is there a way to force ubuntu 10.4 to use a specific screen resolution?
[05:46] <Semperfi40> You're located in Sweden sooo maybe that has something to do with it
[05:46] <Semperfi40> Idk :P
[05:46] <Ebuntu> JC, so i followed the tutorial and when i go to system>administration>network, nothing happens
[05:46] <demititan> back track 4
[05:46] <randerzander> I'm running 10.04 kernel 2.6.34 on a Thinkpad T60 with a Radeon X1400 and having video flickering and little grey horizontal lines occasionally running across the screen. Is this a driver issue? Is fglrx any better than radeon?
[05:46] <demititan> how do i join backtrack support in #backtrack- linux
[05:46] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: that brings me to the google search page, and when I try to follow the link to gmail from there, I get same error :(
[05:46] <mikey_> it wont let me extract it
[05:46] <codebrainz> randerzander, sounds like the wrong frequency for the display, just a guess
[05:47] <shyam> randerzander: did you try plugging in another monitor?
[05:47] <zetheroo> I want to throttle my CPU fan up at about 3000 RPM ... how can i do this? Desktop/ASUS MB/AMD CPU/ Ubuntu Karmic
[05:47] <compubomb> anyone have any idea how i can prevent ubuntu from turning off my monitor when i close my laptop lid, currently i'm piggypacking off my HDMI port but if i close the lid the monitor turns off.
[05:47] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star, so i have in my DNS Table 17,18,19 and 83
[05:47] <shyam> randerzander: like plugging another computer monitor to the serial output of laptop
[05:47] <codebrainz> mikey_, tar xvf install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz
[05:47] <compubomb> this is driving me bonkers.
[05:47] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star, thats all the ending ip address's
[05:47] <Semperfi40> Is there another Support Channel for Ubuntu ?
[05:47] <demititan> collectek: i need a little help understanding the basics
[05:48] <randerzander> codebrainz, shyam - The problem exists at both frequencies listed in the Display Manager (50 and 60 Hz). VGA monitors do not experience the flickering.. just the LCD on the Thinkpad
[05:48] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi40, I believe so
[05:48] <shyam> randerzander: i just replaced my LCD panel on similar grounds:(
[05:48] <Semperfi40> RoDiMuS-X: Well
[05:48] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: I'm beginning to think this isn't a ubuntu, dns, browser, etc. issue at all but probably something to do with my stupid satellite isp
[05:49] <Semperfi40> pat5star like I said something to do with your location
[05:49] <shyam> randerzander: in fact , i replaced it twice within a week..:) (second one obviously was free as it had warranty:))
[05:49] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi40, try #ubuntu-dev or #omg!ubuntu!
[05:49] <codebrainz> demititan, try and find the manual for the lcd display and use those frequencies
[05:49] <Semperfi40> Thanks
[05:49] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star, yeah I am leaning towards ISP
[05:49] <pat5star> Semperfi40: oh I didn't realize you were talking to me. I saw your post, something about Sweden. Actually I'm in Canada, northern Ontario
[05:49] <Ebuntu> how do i activate my wireless card?
[05:50] <codebrainz> pat5star, like sudbury?
[05:50] <randerzander> shyam - it seems to be an intermittent issue though.. occasionally connecting a monitor or swapping the refresh rate from 60 to 50 and back to 60 will fix the problem
[05:50] <shyam> randerzander: oh another important quesiton. does bios screen has that problem?
[05:50] <mikey_> The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct.
[05:50] <Semperfi40> pat5star you IP address says you are located in Sweden
[05:50] <pat5star> codebrainz: nope, farther north. I'm just north west of kapuskasing
[05:50] <mikey_> ould not download all repository indexes
[05:50] <Semperfi40> and I typed your name so when I message you my text comes up in Red which means I'm talking to you
[05:50] <Semperfi40> when I type your name I'm talking to you obviously
[05:50] <shyam> randerzander: in my case, bios too had the problem, so it was evident for me as a hardware failure
[05:50] <Semperfi40> :P
[05:50] <demititan> thanks Codebrainz
[05:51] <Ebuntu> can anyone help me out with activating my wireless card?
[05:51] <pat5star> Semperfi40: I don't know why that is, weird
[05:51] <Ebuntu> some terminal command?
[05:51] <randerzander> shyam - no. it seems to occur more frequently under load (when I have a monitor attached, for instance). Only occasionally when the card is only driving the LCD
[05:51] <shyam> randerzander: hmm..
[05:52] <codebrainz> Semperfi40, add 'apm power_off=1' to /etc/modules then reboot
[05:52] <holocene> ebuntu has wireless worked in ubuntu before? do you see it detected in lshw? have you tried to install it under hardware drivers?
[05:52] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star, your using a Swedan freenode server your ip is reporting canada
[05:52] <micahg> Semperfi40: what's the issue?
[05:52] <Semperfi40> micahg: Hmm?
[05:53] <Semperfi40> codebrainz: what is this in refrence to ?
[05:53] <micahg> Semperfi40: you just asked about something in -devel?
[05:53] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star, I am using an OR server but I am located in PA
[05:53] <Semperfi40> micahg: Oh
[05:53] <codebrainz> Semperfi40, problem shutting down and with sound?  I might be mistaken, maybe got the wrong handle
[05:53] <demititan> anyone familiar wit back track?
[05:53] <Ebuntu> holocene, it can see it, but it says "NETWORK DISABLED"
[05:54] <demititan> backtrack 4 in particular
[05:54] <holocene> ebuntu is this a laptop?
[05:54] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X & Semperfi40: thanks for your help...I'm going to do some more experimenting, I'm going to see if I can borrow a friends server to tunnel a connection through and see if it works then. That should tell me if it is an ISP problem I think
[05:54] <Semperfi40> codebrainz: My system will sometimes freeze on the ubuntu logo, and sometimes when I restart I won't have any sound, and sometimes when I shutdown or restart via the GUI nothing will happen OR it will boot me back to a login screen.
[05:54] <Ebuntu> holocene: yes
[05:54] <holocene> has it worked before?
[05:54] <RoDiMuS-X> pat5star, cool good luck man
[05:54] <pat5star> RoDiMuS-X: ty :)
[05:54] <Ebuntu> it has worked under windows
[05:55] <Semperfi40> micahg: Hopefully you got that too I meant to put your name on there as well.
[05:55] <codebrainz> Semperfi40, so try what i said up there ^^
[05:55] <holocene> ebuntu had the same fricking thing myself. not sure of the official fix, but I just closed the laptop and opened it back up. it is a hibernation/suspend issue.
[05:55] <onetinsoldier> anyone want a really cool weather app? it was tough as nails to get it compiled, but i got it! and now i have .debs of it :)
[05:55] <duckwars> how can I see how much disk I've used in command line?
[05:55] <rww> duckwars: df -H
[05:55] <onetinsoldier> duckwars: df -h
[05:55] <micahg> Semperfi40: sorry, I don't know anything about that, but it's the tail end of a holiday weekend in US & UK, there should be more people in 3-9 hours
[05:56] <holocene> ebuntu go to the ubuntu forums and search.
[05:56] <Semperfi40> codebrainz: Can you tell me specifically what that will do. So I can learn. So if this fixes my problem and I find someone else that has the same issue I will know what I'm talking about .
[05:56] <IdleOne> onetinsoldier: personal PPA :)
[05:56] <duckwars> thanks guys
[05:56] <Semperfi40> micahg: I live on the Eastcoast I just got off work at Midnight
[05:56] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi40, I am on the east coast and I got off  at 11pm
[05:56] <Semperfi40> RoDiMuS-X: Thats nice to know
[05:56] <Semperfi40> :P
[05:57] <onetinsoldier> IdleOne: yeah. roger that. i need to figure out how to really make proper package of it. i just used checkinstall. but man, i'd sure like to have someone else check it out :-)
[05:57] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi40, your not alone, and I support Windows XP all day and I hate windows
[05:58] <Semperfi40> RoDiMuS-X: Support as in thats your job? And I love Windows. I just have Ubuntu for when I need to just get on the internet quickly or check something really quick then get off
[05:58] <inzi1985> hello everyone
[05:58] <inzi1985> i would like sum help from sum1
[05:58] <inzi1985> is anyone out ther who can helpme
[05:58] <holocene> just ask
[05:59] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi40, Yeah I work the help desk fixing peoples issues and adminstrating Active Directory
[05:59] <Semperfi40> coebrainz: " add 'apm power_off=1' to /etc/modules then reboot" how do I do this
[05:59] <inzi1985> Does anyone use a Compaq610 and experiencing heat issues with ubuntu 10.04
[05:59] <Semperfi40> codebrainz: adding it to yada yada directory
[06:00] <inzi1985> with win7 my laptop is ice cold.. but with ubuntu 10.04. its hot.. when i mean hot, processors on avg about 44degrees
[06:00] <holocene> ebuntu: what did you find out?
[06:00] <inzi1985> with win7 its at 40
[06:00] <inzi1985> anybody can help me out?
[06:01] <Semperfi40> RoDiMuS-X: Do you know what Codebrainz was talking about?
[06:01] <holocene> inzi1985: what did google say about this laptop and ubuntu?
[06:01] <RoDiMuS-X> inzi1985, mine is reverse win7 is like lava and Ubuntu is cool as ice around 32 got a compaq v6700
[06:02] <inzi1985> holocene: it had only wifi issues.
[06:02] <inzi1985> holocene: wifi doesn't work out of the box, i have to do a kernal update and installation of the drivers.
[06:02] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi40, type from the command prompt, sudo gedit /etc/modules
[06:02] <holocene> inzi1985: i've heard of fan problems with ubuntu.
[06:02] <Stevethepirate> *kernel
[06:03] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi40, then add the line apm power_off=1
[06:03] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi40, then save the file
[06:03] <inzi1985> holocene: i dun seem to notice any fan problems.. it seems to be working fine.. but.. i have no sensor on this laptop to detect fanspeeds, so i really can't say.
[06:03] <holocene> you might check the forums for overheating or fan issues in general
[06:04] <Semperfi40> RoDiMuS-X: What will that do in reality?
[06:04] <holocene> does your fan stay on forever?
[06:04] <codebrainz> Semperfi40, then reboot.  if it doesn't fixit then remove that line from that file
[06:04] <RoDiMuS-X> Semperfi40, turns off Advanced Power Management
[06:04] <Semperfi40> Alright
[06:04] <inzi1985> holocene: no no.. fan doesn't stay on for ever.. i dun do anything heavy duty..so fan is fine
[06:04] <codebrainz> Semperfi40, it gives sets an option to the apm kernel module for when it gets loaded, to turn it off, or power it off or whatever
[06:05] <holocene> odd
[06:05] <inzi1985> holocene: the processors is ok. but the heat issue is where my left palm rest
[06:05] <Nikolai_D> guys im installing windows server 2008 guest machine with KVM, and it asks for drivers when i start installation. Any suggestion what for drivers that are? Cuz on the internet there are no single how to where there is shown anything about additional drivers.
[06:05] <ubuntu_> ayuda en espanol
[06:05] <codebrainz> Semperfi40, here is the source code if you need more info :)  http://enpc3240.eas.asu.edu/lxr/linux/http/source/arch/i386/kernel/apm.c?v=<IP_ADDRESS>
[06:05] <holocene> what component is heating up?
[06:05] <inzi1985> holocene: i have no idea wats located in that section.. so i cant really say.. i'm new to laptops
[06:06] <holocene> you might check with the vendor support forums
[06:06] <inzi1985> holocene: thats the thing, i dunno wat component is located there
[06:06] <Semperfi40> codebrainz: Someone asked me what kernel I was running earlier. Why would this be a possible issue? Also they asked if I was positive I had erased my previous installation of Ubuntu.
[06:06] <inzi1985> holocene:  i'll have to chek i guess.
[06:06] <Semperfi40> codebrainz: In relation to my current problem
[06:07] <inzi1985> holocene: i checked the online manual, and i dun see anything there'
[06:07] <holocene> really?
[06:07] <inzi1985> holocene: do u think , the vga is heating up coz of compiz?
[06:07] <codebrainz> Semperfi40, because each kernel version would have different code managing the power stuff possibly, so it might be fixed in a newer one.  they probably though you were using your old kernel
[06:07] <inzi1985> holocene: yah,. that area was not marked
[06:07] <holocene> new laptop?
[06:07] <inzi1985> holocene: yup new laptop.. else i would have taken it apart
[06:08] <codebrainz> Semperfi40, at the console type 'uname -r' to see what version is currently running
[06:08] <giantpune> hey guys, is there an example somewhere about how to mount a virtual filesystem in ubuntu?  i would like to create a mount point and have requests to read and write to it sent to my program
[06:08] <Semperfi40> codebrainz: When I installed Lucid Lynx I told Gparted to format the old partition. However when I boot, I have the ability to pick from two different Ubuntu's effectively though the wording and version numbers are exactly the same...
[06:08] <codebrainz> giantpune, what language?
[06:08] <giantpune> c/c++
[06:08] <holocene> I hear you on that. Not sure where to go next.
[06:09] <inzi1985> holocene : is there anyway to switch off compiz temporarily so that i can chk it
[06:09] <codebrainz> giantpune, it's called FUSE, i think that's what you want, prolly a lib you can use, i bet libfuse it's called
[06:09] <Jordan_U> giantpune: Why do you want to do this? fifos may be a simpler and more robust solution.
[06:09] <mcgvac> in ubuntu 10.04 in gnome using metacity, it only stays on one windows decoration no matter which one i select or even if i choose a new theme any ideas
[06:09] <holocene> you could boot in single user mode I think. just a console. Not sure though.
[06:09] <giantpune> Jordan_U, im mounting an encrypted image and decrypting it with my program.  i would like to be able to write to it transparently
[06:10] <holocene> check out rescue mode
[06:10] <KungFuBear> Hey folks. Where can I download Ubuntu 9.10?
[06:10] <inzi1985> holocene: thanks dude.. i shall check it out
[06:10] <bastidrazor> !releases | KungFuBear
[06:10] <Jordan_U> giantpune: Can you give a higher level explanation of what your program is designed to accomplish?
[06:11] <holocene> ok. sorry I was not more help.
[06:11] <inzi1985> holocene: i just dont want to use windows
[06:11] <holocene> Why??
[06:11] <holocene> just kidding.
[06:11] <codebrainz> giantpune, here's the project http://fuse.sourceforge.net/
[06:12] <inzi1985> holocene: alright
[06:12] <giantpune> Jordan_U, i am editing wii game ISOs.  they are encrypted filesystems on the disc image. right now, i have to open the image and parse the contents in my program.  i would like to be able to just use my program to mount the ISO and then be able to drag and drop files to change them with the other programs
[06:13] <giantpune> this will let me not have to reinvent the wheel for many functions
[06:13] <Stevethepirate> giantpune: Check out the Dolphin emulator API.
[06:13] <Ebuntu> can someone help me with this:
[06:13] <Ebuntu> eric@eric-laptop:~$ network-admin --configure wlan0
[06:13] <Ebuntu> [WARN  1496] failed to load configuration file: Cannot load PolicyKit policy file at '/etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf': No such file or directory
[06:13] <Ebuntu> ** ERROR **: Could not find widget: interfaces_list
[06:13] <Ebuntu> aborting...
[06:13] <FloodBot1> Ebuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:13] <Ebuntu> Aborted
[06:13] <Stevethepirate> !pastebin | Ebuntu
[06:13] <Jordan_U> giantpune: Ahh, then you probably want to make a fuse plugin: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/
[06:14] <Ebuntu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/442609/
[06:15] <Veralix> heres question, how do I restart my embedded trackpad in my laptop?  it's giving me issues and I'd rather not reboot. >_>
[06:15] <Ebuntu> can someone help me with whats in there?
[06:15] <Stevethepirate> Ebuntu: Should "network-admin" be run as a normal user, or should it be run as root?
[06:16] <Stevethepirate> Sounds like a permissioning problem. Before you just run it as root, check that the file exists "sudo cat /etc/PolicyKit/PolicyKit.conf | wc -l"
[06:16] <Stevethepirate> Just to see how many lines are in it.
[06:16] <AndrewX192> is .profile loaded immediately after logging in?
[06:16] <Stevethepirate> If a non-zero number is returning, you can probably safely run "sudo network-admin --configure wlan0"
[06:17] <deathnight114> uhh
[06:17] <deathnight114> I'm a noobie with ubuntu
[06:17] <deathnight114> and
[06:17] <deathnight114> i'm trying to listen to some music on youtube
[06:17] <deathnight114> But
[06:17] <deathnight114> Now sound
[06:17] <FloodBot1> deathnight114: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:17] <deathnight114> no*
[06:17] <Jon--> I am using vim on Windows via djgpp. I would like to have the same colour scheme for vim syntax highlighting that I have on Ubuntu by default [with background=dark]. How can I do this? [I ask here because I know a lot of you guys are good with ~/.vimrc and things of that nature. VIM should be the same on the two platforms, just seems like defaults are not.]
[06:17] <Stevethepirate> !enter | deathnight114
[06:18] <AndrewX192> deathnight114, you can't type like that here
[06:18] <holocene> lol
[06:18] <deathnight114> sorry
[06:18] <AndrewX192> Try to keep it to one line
[06:18] <Stevethepirate> deathnight114: type "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp"
[06:18] <Stevethepirate> (In a terminal)
[06:18] <deathnight114> okay, hold on
[06:18] <tyler_> And the flood bots descend upon ye!
[06:18] <Stevethepirate> And the lord Linus said "let there be spammers"
[06:19] <RoDiMuS-X> LOL
[06:19] <deathnight114> umm
[06:19] <deathnight114> That just makes a really wierd sound...
[06:19] <Stevethepirate> Ok, cool. So we know your sound card + speakers are working.
[06:19] <deathnight114> come out of my monitor
[06:19] <Glacer1> See my Enter key is just bigger on my keyboard is why I hit it allot
[06:19] <Glacer1> ;x
[06:19] <Stevethepirate> (you can press Ctrl-C to kill that).
[06:19] <Ebuntu> i get a zero :c
[06:20] <deathnight114> okay
[06:20] <deathnight114> thanks, it worked
[06:20] <Jon--> I am using vim on Windows via djgpp. I would like to have the same colour scheme for vim syntax highlighting that I have on Ubuntu by default [with background=dark]. How can I do this? [I ask here because I know a lot of you guys are good with ~/.vimrc and things of that nature. VIM should be the same on the two platforms, just seems like defaults are not. Just pretend I didn't use the word...
[06:20] <Jon--> ..."Windows", I dualboot ;P]
[06:20] <liyz> hello
[06:20] <Stevethepirate> Ok, so you running Ubuntu 10.4?
[06:20] <deathnight114> but, there is still no sound
[06:20] <deathnight114> 10.04
[06:20] <ravn> how can I see what program(s) are using the network?
[06:20] <Stevethepirate> 1) You sure the youtube volume slider is up?
[06:20] <deathnight114> I believe i heard a sound come from my speakers on started
[06:20] <deathnight114> Yes
[06:20] <Ebuntu> Stevethepirate: i get a 0
[06:21] <deathnight114> It is, i checked earlier
[06:21] <AndrewX192> Anyone know howto add gnome-panel to RGBA blacklist .profile "export GTK_RGBA_APPS=allbut:gnome-panel"
[06:21] <deathnight114> I know that windows has a little volume slide thing, but i don't know if ubuntu does
[06:21] <Jon--> ravn: Check out man netstat   that's the one I know of.
[06:21] <AndrewX192> I tried that, and relogged in, but gnome-panel still has RGBA extentions going"
[06:21] <Stevethepirate> Ebuntu: Then the file doesn't exist. HHrrmm, I would try run as root, "network-admin" sounds like a root thing :)
[06:21] <Stevethepirate> deathnight114: In a console type "alsamixer"
[06:21] <AndrewX192> ravn, netstat -tp
[06:21] <bastidrazor> ravn: sudo netstat -napt   .. notice the ones that have 'ESTABLISHED' .. they are currently active
[06:22] <Stevethepirate> AndrewX192: Still stuck with RGBA? :) Unlucky.
[06:22] <Jon--> deathnight114: Should be one at the top right.
[06:22] <AndrewX192> Stevethepirate, I have all the effects set
[06:22] <Ebuntu> Stevethepirate: how do i run as root?
[06:22] <AndrewX192> http://i48.tinypic.com/2q8oz80.png
[06:22] <AndrewX192> Take a look at that :P
[06:22] <Stevethepirate> !root | Ebuntu
[06:22] <AndrewX192> Pretty sexy desktop, right Stevethepirate?
[06:22]  * Stevethepirate clicks
[06:22] <deathnight114> okay
[06:22] <Stevethepirate> My internet is slow here in ZA :/
[06:22] <Ebuntu> ah
[06:22] <deathnight114> A little screen comes up on the terminal, showing a bunch of bars
[06:22] <Ebuntu> uhoh
[06:22] <AndrewX192> It's actualy mint *hushes* but its based on ubuntu anyways :P
[06:22] <Stevethepirate> oO, looks pretty :) Nice. I'm still working on awesome here :/
[06:23] <deathnight114> front mi is at 0
[06:23] <Stevethepirate> deathnight114: Those are volume bars, use the up and down arrwos.
[06:23] <Stevethepirate> Yeah, you want to push that up. Make sure it has OO and not MM.
[06:23] <AndrewX192> I just need to add gnome-panel to RGBA blacklist and im good :D
[06:23] <Jon--> I am using vim on Windows via djgpp. I would like to have the same colour scheme for vim syntax highlighting that I have on Ubuntu by default [with background=dark]. How can I do this? [I ask here because I know a lot of you guys are good with ~/.vimrc and things of that nature. VIM should be the same on the two platforms, just seems like defaults are not. Just pretend I didn't use the word...
[06:23] <Jon--> ..."Windows", I dualboot ;P]
[06:23] <Stevethepirate> AndrewX192: Which widgets are those? Look amazing ;)
[06:23] <AndrewX192> Stevethepirate, google gadgets :P
[06:24] <Stevethepirate> Ahhh, looks like a sleek version of superkaramba :)
[06:24] <trythil> hi all -- wondering if anyone here is running an ATI Radeon 5850-based video card and upgraded from Karmic to Lucid
[06:24] <Ebuntu> Stevethepirate: http://paste.ubuntu.com/442613/
[06:24] <Jon--> Of course it's Google. Google make everything that is good in the world.
[06:24] <deathnight114> yeah
[06:24] <Stevethepirate> Quick question Ebuntu, what are you ACTUALLY wanting to do?
[06:24] <benlieb> test test
[06:24] <deathnight114> I have it so that all the bars are up high, but still no sound
[06:24] <AndrewX192> Now I'm just trying to get coverflow in nautilus and fix this gnome-panel
[06:24] <Stevethepirate> deathnight114: Ok, in gnome, on the top bar, System->Sound->Gmix
[06:24] <Ebuntu> Stevethepirate: get on the internet with my laptop
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[06:25] <deathnight114> What is gnome?
[06:25] <Stevethepirate> Ebuntu: Ok, so you wanting to use this applet, why not use the built in wireless network applet that comes with ubuntu?
[06:25] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: yoyoyo ^_^
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> !gnome | deathnight114
[06:25] <deathnight114> I'm a noobie with ubuntu, just installed like, two hours ago
[06:25] <Stevethepirate> !gnome | deathnight114
[06:25] <extor> What's the syntax for creating/exporting an smb share? I know with nfs you just plop the stuff in /etc/exports but how do I do the same thing with an smb share?
[06:26] <Ebuntu> Stevethepirate: for some reason it doesnt work
[06:26] <Stevethepirate> Heh, ok, pretty much, it's the graphical interface you are using.
[06:26] <deathnight114> how do i access it?
[06:26] <Stevethepirate> Ebuntu: Rather than making a new problem, fix the existing one :)
[06:26] <deathnight114> okay, so i went to system, but i don't see a sound panel
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> Extoe: you can use nautilus or /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:26] <AndrewX192> deathnight114, if your using ubuntu your allready in gnome
[06:26] <naiad> if I have my data partitions in my fstab with ureadahead my system hangs.  removing them directly makes it bootable again.  should I be moutning them with an upstart script if I want to continue using ureadahead?
[06:26] <Ebuntu> Stevethepirate: ? how?
[06:26] <trythil> extor: mount -t cifs //host/share mountpoint will work, but it's generally easier to use Nautilus or Konqueror or whatnot, unless you have a need for the console
[06:26] <RoDiMuS-X> check this out http://tinypic.com/r/29zy8og/6
[06:26] <linux> can i open codeblocks download with archive manager?
[06:26] <extor> trythil, that's on the client. I want the command for the server
[06:26] <Jon--> deathnight114: Windows has the UI and the operating system together. (essentially, don't flame me). In Linux, they are seperate. Gnome is run at startup, and it is what you use to have a user interface that you can use.
[06:26] <AndrewX192> RoDiMuS-X, nice
[06:27] <Stevethepirate> Hrrm, I actually don't have gnome running here :/ It should be on of the options on the top. (Someone with Gnome open give this dude a hand quick)
[06:27] <trythil> extor: oh, whoops, misread
[06:27] <RoDiMuS-X> AndrewX192, working on an Android theme
[06:27] <AndrewX192> RoDiMuS-X, nice!
[06:27] <Stevethepirate> RoDiMuS-X: Heh, looks nice.
[06:27] <Jon--> deathnight114: Look for Sound somewhere under Preferences or System. Probably prefs.
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> Deathnight114: you can change desktop environment to whatever you like. Linux is flexible and allows you to change rather than Windows where there is a choice of 1
[06:27] <trythil> extor: in that case, you can add the share directly to /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:27] <Ebuntu> Stevethepirate: should i reinstall ubuntu?
[06:28] <Jon--> I am using vim on Windows via djgpp. I would like to have the same colour scheme for vim syntax highlighting that I have on Ubuntu by default [with background=dark]. How can I do this? [I ask here because I know a lot of you guys are good with ~/.vimrc and things of that nature. VIM should be the same on the two platforms, just seems like defaults are not. Just pretend I didn't use the word...
[06:28] <Stevethepirate> Ebuntu: No! It's probably just a small problem.
[06:28] <Jon--> ..."Windows", I dualboot ;P]
[06:28] <codebrainz> linux, the dev. IDE?  i think it's in the repos
[06:28] <Stevethepirate> Jon--: #vii
[06:28] <Stevethepirate> Jon--: #vim
[06:28] <Stevethepirate> Sorry.
[06:28] <deathnight114> okay
[06:28] <linux> ide
[06:28] <codebrainz> linux, apt-get install codeblocks
[06:28] <deathnight114> so, i still don't see a sound panel when i click on system
[06:28] <Jon--> Stevethepirate: I am there, no assistance. The channels been dead. Asked a long time ago.
[06:28] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: is there a $HOME/.vimrc file or similar you can copy?
[06:28] <extor> trythil, so smb.conf is where I would tell it what my pseudo computer-name is and which directories to export as samba shares?
[06:28] <linux> k thx
[06:28] <holocene> for some wireless problems, it helps to connect via a wired connection then do system - administration -hardware drivers
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> !ide | codebrainz
[06:29] <Stevethepirate> Jon--: Sorry then :/ I use vi, but haven't needed that before :/
[06:29] <trythil> extor: yeah.  the smb.conf shipped with ubuntu's Samba packages contains a number of examples
[06:29] <Stevethepirate> Anways, Macaroni Cheese :) brb.
[06:29] <deathnight114> oh
[06:29] <deathnight114> okay
[06:29] <deathnight114> I found it
[06:29] <codebrainz> ActionParsnip, wow thanks for that newsflash!  /s
[06:29] <Jon--> ActionParsnip: Well, my ~/.vimrc doesn't have colour schemes. The issue is set background=dark in Command-Prompt, and Ubuntu. And then enable syntax highlighting and... They're different. I will have to manually configure them to match. How?
[06:29] <deathnight114> Now, what do i do?
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> Extor: yes. There are tonnes of guides. You can also set access rights too
[06:29] <trythil> extor: I'm sure there's an easier way to set it up (nautilus etc come to mind), but if you don't have access to a GUI then the Samba configuration file is the next place I'd go to
[06:30] <Stevethepirate> trythil: You just trying to access a samba share?
[06:30] <Jon--> ActionParsnip: Not just a little different, Ubuntu has sexy colours with vim, and the vim on Windows is ugly as hell with choice of colours, I cna't live with it.
[06:30] <extor> hrmm how do I launch this nautilus
[06:30] <deathnight114> ahh
[06:30] <trythil> Stevethepirate: no, extor's looking to export a share
[06:30] <deathnight114> okay
[06:30] <extor> I have gnome running right now
[06:30] <deathnight114> I got it, thank you!!!
[06:30] <trythil> extor: nautilus is the file manager
[06:30] <Stevethepirate> Ahh. It's not trvial afaik. I think there is evne a GUI app for it.
[06:30] <Stevethepirate> *it's trivial
[06:30] <Stevethepirate> Sigh, it's too early :/
[06:30] <trythil> Stevethepirate: there is -- you can right-click on folders and pick sharing options from there
[06:30] <Stevethepirate> Yeah.
[06:31] <Stevethepirate> And that isn't an option here/
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: is there a channel specifically for vim. They may know some tricks
[06:31] <holocene> ebuntu if you have a wired connection, connect with that, then do system - administration - hardware drivers
[06:31] <Jon--> extor: You open any "folder". Try places - home or something.
[06:31] <trythil> Stevethepirate: I thought it wasn't, but it sounds like extor has access to GNOME
[06:31] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: He's been there, just idlers.
[06:31] <RoDiMuS-X> Jon--: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Change_the_color_scheme
[06:31] <trythil> Stevethepirate: so, yeah, going through the file manager is what I'd recommend
[06:31] <Jon--> ActionParsnip: I'm in there, asked ages ago, 0 replies, in fact, 0 messages in channel in about an hour. That's why I am here ;P
[06:31] <Stevethepirate> Yeah.
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: gah!
[06:31] <extor> Jon--, and then right click on it?
[06:31] <codebrainz> Jon--, can you not just copy the vimrc file to the other system?
[06:31] <bricky> hey is there any way to ajust your video card settings  by chance
[06:31] <Ebuntu> holocene: ok brb
[06:31] <Stevethepirate> ActionParsnip: The wonders of IRC ^^.
[06:32] <Jon--> extor: Just left click. Nautilus is like Windows Explorer, it just lets you see folders and files and stuff.
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> Stevethepirate: nature of the beast
[06:32] <Jon--> codebrainz: My .vimrc does not use custom colours. The defaults on Ubuntu and Windows must be different and I don't know where to find.
[06:32] <trythil> also, broadcast for help: if anyone went from Karmic to Lucid and is experiencing significantly degraded 2D performance with an ATI video card, I'd very much like to talk with you :)
[06:32] <extor> Jon--, left click does nothing. Right click brought up a context menu where I see "share"
[06:33] <extor> "Sharing Options" rather
[06:33] <trythil> extor: yeah, that share option is what you want
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> Trythil: remove then reinstall the driver, sometimes video drivers don't survive the upgrade
[06:33] <Jon--> extor: Out of curiosity, try this. Press alt+f2, and run "nautilus"  [no quotes].  Does anything happen?
[06:33] <deathnight114> Hey does anyone know if there is an FL Studio alternative for ubuntu
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> Deathnight114: lmms
[06:33] <codebrainz> Jon--, what about the system-wide one under /etc/vim/*
[06:33] <trythil> ActionParsnip: I removed/reinstalled fglrx; dmesg and glxinfo report latest Catalyst driver installed
[06:33] <deathnight114> lmms?
[06:33] <extor> Jon--, errr I cannot run a gnome app in the console
[06:33] <trythil> ActionParsnip: however, 2D performance is still junk, and I'm not quite sure what else to poke at
[06:33] <extor> It's just going to crash
[06:34] <Jon--> extor: Then do it from terminal. :P   My bad.
[06:34] <linux> i can't remember if i installed ubuntu as a 32 bit or 64 bit os how would i know?
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> Trythil: that's all I got. I avoid ati like paris hilton avoids talent
[06:34] <trythil> ActionParsnip: hah
[06:34] <extor> So what will my samba name be
[06:34] <Jon--> codebrainz: I have not looked there yet. Does that contain the syntax highlighting colours?
[06:34] <codebrainz> linux, i think uname -m will tell you
[06:34] <RoDiMuS-X> linux: uname -a it will have x64 near the end
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> Linux: uname -a ,if you see i686 its 32bit, if you see x86_64 its 64bit
[06:35] <jericom> Does anyone know how to fix this login error "could not update iceauthority"
[06:35] <goddard> Are older versions of ubuntu more secure?
[06:35] <deathnight114> ActionParsnip, what is lmms?
[06:35] <codebrainz> Jon--, presumably it's the default/global configuration file overriden by your personal ~/.vimrc file.  i don't use vim, but that's the way it usually works
[06:35] <jericom> It just happened out of the blue
[06:35] <RoDiMuS-X> goddard: more secure or more stable
[06:35] <linux> i686 came up so 32 bit
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> Jericom: boot to root recovery mode and run: cd /home; chmod -R foo ./foo ,assuming your username is foo
[06:36] <trythil> goddard: not really -- how secure your system is depends much more on what you choose to run and how vigilant you are about it
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> Deathnight114: an alternative to frootyloops
[06:36] <norrec> Does anyone have any experience with setting up vpns?
[06:36] <holocene> jericom: check the forums.
[06:36] <deathnight114> ahh
[06:36] <Jon--> goddard: In some sense, perhaps, but with Ubuntu, the packages are always updating. It's not like old versions keep "safe" packages. If you want security, then try some sort of minimalistic install, like Ubuntu server and install what you need. I'd recommend 10.04, it's very stable.
[06:36] <deathnight114> okay
[06:36] <trythil> goddard: that said, older versions of Ubuntu don't necessarily get the latest and greatest, e.g. ejabberd in the last LTS hasn't seen any updates for a long time
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> Deathnight114: like you asked for...right?
[06:36] <trythil> goddard: and often package updates include security fixes
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> !latest | goddard
[06:37] <deathnight114> ahh
[06:37] <k1_> hi, i have an ubuntu server and XP clients . i know that <IP_ADDRESS> is taking all our bandwidth, how can i find out who he is ? like the machine name
[06:37] <deathnight114> okay
[06:37] <Jon--> codebrainz: I'll check it out lat--- right now. Haha.ext2explore.exe you are my friend. =D
[06:37] <holocene> jericom: that was a problem for people who encrypted home directory. http://ubuntuforums.org/ or launchpad will have into
[06:37] <goddard> At some point security holes would be fixed right?
[06:37] <Ebuntu> holocene: it says your computer is using no propeitary drivers
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> K1_: ssh onto the system and run ntop ;)
[06:37] <goddard> So why update an OS further?
[06:37] <trythil> goddard: because more security problems may be discovered
[06:38] <holocene> ebuntu: odd.
[06:38] <k1_> ActionParsnip, from ubuntu run ntop ?
[06:38] <goddard> Ubuntu is always introducing new software wont they just lead to more issues?
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> Goddard: new features. Security in any OS will never be 100%
[06:38] <jericom> holocene: I didnt encrypt the home directory, well anything
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> K1_: from the ssh session on the offending system
[06:38] <holocene> you choose an option on install. you sure?
[06:38] <Jon--> goddard: The LTS releases are generally the most stable. Since the latest Ubuntu is LTS, I'd go with it.
[06:38] <jericom> Yes completely
[06:39] <holocene> how old is install?
[06:39] <Ebuntu> holocene: got any suggestions?
[06:39] <Stevethepirate> Anyone here familiar with "nitrogen", [not the gas :-), the program ]
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> !info nitrogen
[06:39] <holocene> ebuntu sorry. I would find out if wlan card is supported.
[06:39] <jericom> Since 10.04 released
[06:39] <goddard> I appreciate the answers but I am more asking from a theological stand point not deciding which version I need because I already run 10.04
[06:39] <k1_> ActionParsnip, most probably the offending system is a windows . would i have to set it up for ssh beforehand?
[06:40] <holocene> did you run ubuntu before that?
[06:40] <devilina> hello everyone
[06:40] <goddard> yeah
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> Goddard: lts is good but karmic is more mature
[06:40] <Jon--> goddard: If you want the most secure platform, go with a flavour of BSD
[06:40] <Jon--> goddard: In general, you sacrifice security for shiny things.
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> K1_: then grab another windows system and use terminal services manager in admin tools to remotely manage the system. You can then see the sessions on the pc. You can even message them ;)
[06:41] <onetinsoldier> I know how to make my OS completely secure. reach over, pull plug from internet, done :D
[06:41] <devilina> the front audio port is giving any output, im using a desktop....please help?? is it a driver issue?? it works fine on windows
[06:41] <jericom> Did a clean install
[06:41] <goddard> onetinsoldier you cant do that to a server
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Devilina: what windows does is moot to linux
[06:41] <RoDiMuS-X> I got a channel question, Do you recommend upgrade from previous Ubuntu installation or fresh install?
[06:41] <k1_> ActionParsnip, is there no option to do that from ubuntu, basically i just want to know the computer's name
[06:41] <onetinsoldier> goddard: i know. it was a little joke
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> K1_: nslookup ip.address.of.pc
[06:42] <devilina> lol action..please help..i want to desperately get the front audio jack to work :(
[06:42] <holocene> jericom: ice authority has bugs but I thought they were put to rest in lucid. I would check the forums.
[06:42] <norrec> but when it comes down to it, just about any version of ubuntu is more secure than windows, and i that alone should keep you pretty safe till the amount of windows machines drop lol
[06:42] <tyler_> I have the most secure computer of all! A commodore 64 that sits in the corner!
[06:42] <RoDiMuS-X> kl_: nslookup ipaddress
[06:42] <k1_> ActionParsnip, thanks
[06:42] <Jon--> goddard: If you want to run a server, go with FreeBSD or OpenBSD. I don't mean to badmouth Linux, they are damn secure, but those two are used when you want absolutely the best, and safest you can get.
[06:43] <Jon--> goddard: You will sacrifice some functionality and ease of use though. Your call.
[06:43] <goddard> Is it that different?
[06:43] <jericom> holocene: What is ice authority anyway?
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> Jon--: it's a known fact that bsd is usually more secure
[06:43] <tyler_> goddard: Yeah, I'm going to have to also provide a shout out for BSD. Security = rock solid.
[06:43] <holocene> Are openbsd people pretty friendly?
[06:43] <devilina> should i do something to the alsa-base.conf file?:(
[06:44] <tyler_> holocene, Hop on their channel?
[06:44] <Jon--> goddard: See ActionParsnip's reply. Yes. In the security community, those are very rarely found exploits. I don't remember which one, one of those two, hasn't been a remote exploit in years. It's definitely at the sacrifice of making your life a living hell in setup though. Limited.
[06:44] <holocene> jericom: has to do with passwords and security. It was a nightmare for me.
[06:44] <painted> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goobuntu
[06:44] <painted> want
[06:44] <holocene> tyler: good idea. I've heard things.
[06:44] <jericom> holocene: Is it default in the installation or it comes with other packages?
[06:44] <holocene> default
[06:45] <goddard> Jon-- I see
[06:45] <jericom> holocene: btw thanks for you help
[06:45] <holocene> tyler but I will
[06:45] <holocene> jericom good luck you will get it.
[06:45] <daddymommy> how can i confirm whether I have a dialup/phone modem in my comp?
[06:45] <Jon--> goddard: It comes down to choice. Is Ubuntu server "secure", yes. Is it bulletproof? No. Is even FreeBSD bulletproof? Well, it's possible that it isn't, but it's the best you can get if you are concerned.
[06:45] <ramon> help please
[06:46] <siriusnova> guys how in the holy heck do you disable services from starting on bootup in lucid
[06:46] <Jon--> goddard: OpenBSD is also good. Do some research.
[06:46] <RoDiMuS-X> siriusnova, use the start up manager
[06:47] <siriusnova> there is no start up manager
[06:47] <siriusnova> where is it
[06:47] <tyler_> goddard: You could go and ask a BSD guy on a BSD channel as of why their OS is more secure then Linux. You'll get a biased answer of course, but there will probably be some useful information given out.
[06:47] <onetinsoldier> siriusnova: unfortunately, i think they dropped the gui for doing that with Lucid/upstart. but you can look at man page for  update-rc.d, and i think the chkconfig package might be another one to have a look at
[06:47] <siriusnova> what
[06:47] <siriusnova> wait
[06:47] <ramon> excludes xchat menu internet, installed it again and appeared not give <br>I alt + f2 gksu alacarte and it appears on the menu ... As I put on the menu ?
[06:47] <siriusnova> wtf
[06:48] <holocene> goddard: Freebsd was great and a very good community.
[06:48] <devilina> please help someone...
[06:48] <annie7130789> how can i create password wall in linux
[06:48] <tyler_> siriusnova: I think it's in the repositories... not sure though.
[06:48] <annie7130789> ?
[06:48] <holocene> devilina what is your question
[06:49] <KungFuBear> Ok, I'm about to throw things
[06:49] <ramon> excludes xchat menu internet, installed it again and appeared not give
[06:49] <ramon> I alt + f2 gksu alacarte and it appears on the menu, as I put on the menu
[06:49] <thamz> skype crashes when I start a chat in Lucid, worked well in prev versions though. Anybody having the same issues?
[06:49] <devilina> holocene...the front audio jack is not giving any output..i did a lot of reasearch on google...tried all sorts of stuff..but doesnt work..it started after the release of karmic
[06:50] <holocene> jack is mechanically good?
[06:50] <holocene> cable good?
[06:50] <devilina> yes..works on windows holocene...its working..so no probs there
[06:50] <Jon--> goddard: The main reason is philosophy. Nearly all the features FreeBSD has, except for a few key ones, are available in Linux. Key: kernel security levels. Includes better IDS (intrusion detection system), etc. The main reason? Their codebase. Linux moves forward, BSD stays where it knows it is 100% safe. Makes your life harder, but it offers better security.
[06:51] <Jon--> goddard: [I know I said main reason twice, different default packages etc differ DUE to philosophy though ;p]
[06:51] <holocene> if you did the google thing and checked forums then I don't know. there is another very big linux channel on freenode to try. they seemed good.
[06:51] <annie7130789> can anyone help me
[06:51] <annie7130789> ?
[06:51] <thamz> anybody having problems with skype in Lucid?
[06:52] <RoDiMuS-X> annie7130789, whats your question?
[06:52] <J2EEE> hi... i got this nokia 2730 c and want to connect to the internet from that device paired to ubuntu 9.10 via bluetooth
[06:52] <jericom> In my case is working fine
[06:52] <RoDiMuS-X> thamz, nope works great for me
[06:52] <annie7130789> ya i want to download latest sype in lucid
[06:52] <holocene> devilina ask again and I will shutup.
[06:52] <J2EEE> i can connect via the upper toolbar but then still ping www.google.com says unknown host
[06:52] <J2EEE> the device shows [E]
[06:52] <devilina> hmm:(
[06:52] <bricky> thamz : yea, cant get my webcam to work hehe
[06:52] <RoDiMuS-X> annie7130789, ok
[06:52] <Exavion> anyone here run an Intel (multicore probably) chip and have problems with frequency scaling on a fresh install?
[06:52] <J2EEE> means it is connected fine
[06:53] <annie7130789> @RodiMus-x i want to create password wall in linur during runlevel3 login
[06:53] <thamz> bricky, in my case, i can't start a chat even :(
[06:53] <Jon--> I am using vim on Windows via djgpp. I would like to have the same colour scheme for vim syntax highlighting that I have on Ubuntu by default [with background=dark]. How can I do this? [I ask here because I know a lot of you guys are good with ~/.vimrc and things of that nature. VIM should be the same on the two platforms, just seems like defaults are not. Just pretend I didn't use the word...
[06:53] <Jon--> ..."Windows", I dualboot ;P] I have looked in ~/.vimrc and /etc/vim/vimrc on Ubuntu. Neither have any colour settings.
[06:53] <annie7130789> sorry its linux
[06:53] <RoDiMuS-X> annie7130789, a password wall?
[06:53] <annie7130789> ya
[06:53] <annie7130789> there is already one
[06:53] <codebrainz> devilina, it's probably due to it not switching to the jack automatically, it's something with alsa i guess where it senses when something is plugged it, it's supposed to switch
[06:53] <codebrainz> my guess anyway
[06:54] <annie7130789> and i want to creaone morete
[06:54] <annie7130789> can u help me
[06:54] <J2EEE> hi... i got this nokia 2730 c and want to connect to the internet from that device paired to ubuntu 9.10 via bluetooth ... the device shows [E] means its connected correctly ... so does ubuntu show the tower in the network area when its connected .. but still ping www.google.com says unknown host
[06:54] <RoDiMuS-X> annie7130789, you mean a user list
[06:54] <thamz> RoDiMuS-X, hmm, some prob with my machine, i guess
[06:54] <codebrainz> devilina, what kind of computer is it?
[06:54] <devilina> i keep it plugged in while i boot....codebrainz
[06:54] <devilina> still it doesnt detect..its a desktop codebrainz
[06:54] <annie7130789> no there exist a password wall in linux
[06:54] <`blackmk4`linux> what would cause update-motd to disappear and apt-get install update-motd doesn't fix it
[06:55] <annie7130789> and i want to create one more password wall
[06:55] <RoDiMuS-X> annie7130789, are you talking about Openwall
[06:55] <holocene> annie what system has a pasword wall?
[06:56] <Jon--> goddard: Not to steer you in the wrong direction, I think OpenBSD is more secure than FreeBSD. Both are VERY good. OpenBSD has had TWO remote exploits in ten years, and that's while being completely open source.
[06:56] <annie7130789> @Rodi i dont know what open wall and password wall is
[06:56] <annie7130789> but some one asked me how to create it?
[06:56] <J2EEE> hi... i got this nokia 2730 c and want to connect to the internet from that device paired to ubuntu 9.10 via bluetooth ... the device shows [E] means its connected correctly ... so does ubuntu show the tower in the network area when its connected .. but still ping www.google.com says unknown host
[06:56] <RoDiMuS-X> annie7130789, password walls are usually used on web servers
[06:57] <annie7130789> @Rodi and what is run level 3 login
[06:57] <bricky> is there a catalyst control center of some sort for ubuntu,
[06:57] <annie7130789> ?
[06:57] <RoDiMuS-X> annie7130789, that is GDM
[06:58] <annie7130789> gdm????
[06:59] <fikri> vga ubuntu eror
[06:59] <devilina> :-(
[06:59] <RoDiMuS-X> annie7130789, yea the GUI that displays the available users and you select them and it prompts for the password
[06:59] <J2EEE> hi... i got this nokia 2730 c and want to connect to the internet from that device paired to ubuntu 9.10 via bluetooth ... the device shows [E] means its connected correctly ... so does ubuntu show the tower in the network area when its connected .. but still ping www.google.com says unknown host
[06:59] <holocene> wikipedia says run level 4 is the console and networking, no gui
[06:59] <RoDiMuS-X> annie7130789, GDM stands for Gnome Desktop Manager, correct me if I am wrong
[06:59] <holocene> sorry run level 3
[07:00] <annie7130789> @Rodi den tell me how to create password wall in webserver of linux?
[07:00] <devilina> yes..runlevel 3 is CUI with networking..to invoke GUI type 'startx' :)
[07:00] <J2EEE> hi... i got this nokia 2730 c and want to connect to the internet from that device paired to ubuntu 9.10 via bluetooth ... the device shows [E] means its connected correctly ... so does ubuntu show the tower in the network area when its connected .. but still ping www.google.com says unknown host
[07:00] <holocene> cui = cli?
[07:00] <RoDiMuS-X> holocene, 2-5	Full Multi-User with console logins and display manager if installed
[07:01] <devilina> yes holocene
[07:01] <holocene> Rodimus yes.
[07:01] <RoDiMuS-X> annie7130789, google Openwall
[07:02] <shazzam6999> window 1
[07:02] <holocene> how do you exit the gdm in ubuntu to get to run level 3?
[07:02] <RoDiMuS-X> hit ctrl-alt f1
[07:02] <holocene> and then to return to gdm?
[07:03] <RoDiMuS-X> ctrl-alt f8 i think
[07:03] <RoDiMuS-X> sorry f7
[07:03] <linux> oh that code::blocks 8.02 is nice download just got to see if it works as good as it looks
[07:03] <holocene> rodimus I got stuck in the console and could not return once. the reason I ask. Ok f7 will try.
[07:04] <devilina> holocene..to get back to runlevel 3..on terminal type 'init 3' :)
[07:04] <zetheroo> I want to throttle my CPU fan up at about 3000 RPM ... how can i do this? Desktop/ASUS MB/AMD CPU/ Ubuntu Karmic
[07:05] <devilina> i think i should go back to jaunty to make my front audio jacks to work...:(
[07:05] <devilina> karmic & lucid doesnt solve the issuee
[07:07] <codebrainz> zetheroo, i think you probably use lm-sensors for that, there's a pwm thingy in there if you system has one
[07:07] <Twain_32> Hello Everyone! how can help me to configure WINE ? correctly
[07:08] <zetheroo> codebrainz: well I have that running ... the sensors in the panel anyway .... but I didn't know that lm-sensors could control stuff ... I thought it was for monitoring ...
[07:08] <Twain_32> Hello Everyone! how can help me to configure WINE ? correctly
[07:09] <codebrainz> zetheroo, run pwmconfig
[07:09] <codebrainz> it will tell you if it can do it or not
[07:09] <zetheroo> what am I looking for?
[07:09] <codebrainz> for it not to say "/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed"
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[07:10] <zetheroo> codebrainz: it wants to stop my fans one at a time
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Act
[07:10] <codebrainz> zetheroo, cool
[07:10] <RoDiMuS-X> /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[07:10] <Twain_32> guys! how to configure WINE correctly!
[07:10] <Twain_32> guys! how to configure WINE correctly!???
[07:11] <AndrewX192> !wine | Twain_32
[07:11] <zetheroo> codebrainz: meaning ....
[07:11] <AndrewX192> How come I can't add gnome-panel to RGBA blacklist?
[07:11] <RoDiMuS-X> night all
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> Twain_32: there is no single answer to that as the config will vary wildly from app to app. Some apps run well and some will even refuse to install
[07:11] <codebrainz> codebrainz, what i pasted is what i get, not supported here, can't help.
[07:11] <magicianlord> Question: What is the preferred fstab mount option for solid state disk and why: noatime or relatime
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Twain_32: check the appdb for. Compatibility
[07:13] <Twain_32> !appdb
[07:13] <zetheroo> codebrainz: how do I control the fan speeds?
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Magicianlord: http://tldp.org/LDP/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/chap6sec73.html
[07:13] <codebrainz> zetheroo, google for lm-sensors pwmconfig
[07:13] <codebrainz> or use bing, google sucks now
[07:14] <zetheroo> ok
[07:14] <clint-> zetheroo:  theres  echo commands you can use as well
[07:14] <zetheroo> why does google suck now?
[07:14] <clint-> I would do echo commands on fan state files on some hp notebooks and thinkpads, but they also have that thinkpad control deal
[07:15] <zetheroo> clint-: yes I use the Thinkpad Fan Control app on my Thinkpads ....
[07:15] <Twain_32> ok guys i understand it! but how can i download required items and where i must put them /
[07:15] <Docteh> zetheroo: occasionally its given me results sorted in a crap way while it gives my friend the results sorted better :-/
[07:15] <magicianlord> thanks man
[07:15] <clint-> like example, full rpm,  echo 0 > /proc/acpi/fan/state
[07:15] <codebrainz> zetheroo, they tweaked it to death, removed country options, definition, the search results are worse, it looks lame, and there's a new bar on the left that makes it not work on my netbook
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> Magicianlord: i'd use noatime as the files will be written less and make the device last longer (ssd have limited write cycles)
[07:15] <clint-> I been debating on which thinkpad to get again.. sent a T61 back,
[07:15] <zetheroo> Docteh: I see
[07:16] <clint-> the T410 I like, but some things on it I don't like which is was more like the T61, but with that touchpad though, however I got a Logitech VX Revolution so.. don't matter
[07:16] <zetheroo> codebrainz: i see what you mean ...
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> Twain_32: usually www.dll-files.com is needed but again, there is no single answer
[07:16] <magicianlord> ActionParsnip: and what abou using relatime instead of noatime?
[07:16] <clint-> but ze
[07:16] <clint-> zetheroo:
[07:16] <clint-> you can issue echo commands to control diff levels :)
[07:16] <clint-> 0 - 7
[07:16] <clint-> should be, just all depends
[07:17] <zetheroo> clint-: how do these echo commands work?
[07:17] <Ebuntu> holocene: i FINALLY got it to work
[07:17] <Ebuntu> :D
[07:17] <clint-> who me what you have for...  ls /proc/acpi/fan/
[07:17] <zetheroo> clint-: so you scrapped the Thinkpad for a Logitech?
[07:17] <clint-> no
[07:17] <clint-> I sent the T61 back because the Top LCD Cover was warped
[07:17] <clint-> but I should of kept it :)
[07:17] <summers> Привет, кто-нибудь говорить на русском? Я урожденная помочь с Ubuntu
[07:17] <clint-> brb
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Magicianlord: http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/01/30/installing-linux-on-usb-part-4-noatime-and-relatime-mount-options/
[07:17] <zetheroo> clint-: back ... for warranty service?
[07:17] <theadmin> summers: #ubuntu-ru пожалуйста
[07:18] <Ebuntu> I installed Wicd Network manager, and it connected through there
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Magicianlord: fyi I have no idea about this stuff. I'm just websearching
[07:18] <summers> theadmin: спасибо
[07:18] <Ebuntu> i had to connect through ethernet
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> Edbuntu: wicd is sweet :)
[07:19] <Yax> comment on change la partition surlequel se trouve le grub ?
[07:19] <imprint> I recently upgraded to the new Ubuntu 10, and now my computer is messed up, mouse does not function properly, and I must turn off by pushing in power button cause if I try to turn off by power icon, I get rerouted to log in screen, all in all, the upgrade is awful,
[07:19] <codebrainz> magicianlord, noatime stops it from writing the access bits on each file each time it's accessed, relatime causes it to only update the access bits if they are different
[07:19] <codebrainz> i think
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Edbuntu: if you always use the same wired connection you can use /etc/network/interfaces and do away completely with all gui network management apps
[07:19] <magicianlord> codebrainz: i dont really understand the difference. i just want to know which to set on my ssd netbook
[07:20] <eri> hi
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> Magicianlord: i'd shoot for noatime. It'll make it faster too :)
[07:20] <Ebuntu> lol now my sound wont work
[07:20] <codebrainz> magicianlord, noatime=less writing to flash disk, relatime=some but not lots
[07:20] <magicianlord> thank, ActionParsnip
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> !hi | eri
[07:20] <eri> i need helo to configure alsa or pulseaudio
[07:20] <magicianlord> ok
[07:21] <clint-> zetheroo: , I tried the depot method twice, but the guys in mephis tenn didn't know what they were doing, so I sent it back to Morrisville , NC and waited  1 month for a free fund check because they couldn't credit the money back to my bank which I bought from my Bank Card/Master Card
[07:21] <clint-> the next time, I will just order 1 from techforless, tigerdirect, or neweggg
[07:21] <clint-> whoever has the best deal ;)
[07:21] <clint-> I won't deal with lenovo again
[07:22] <zetheroo> clint-: wow that's shocking
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> clint: lenovo support linux nicely (usually)
[07:22] <clint-> but I been thinking about ordering a macbook pro, so I can do screencast with techsmith with virtual machines with suse/mandriva/ubuntu/fedora
[07:22] <zetheroo> clint-: I am in Australia and service has been super quality
[07:22] <clint-> well, I support my own systems, hehe :)
[07:22] <clint-> I know they do acidchild
[07:22] <clint-> ActionParsnip:
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> Mac == $$$$$$$$$$$$
[07:22] <clint-> and you know what system to eh.. ;)
[07:22] <clint-> not on techforless ActionParsnip
[07:23] <theadmin> clint-: meh, if you want to record your desktop you can always use RMD, what's the big deal?
[07:23] <nmvictor> how do i solve this ::: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[07:23] <clint-> I got a sonicwall TZ 170 SP for 90% off
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> !gpg
[07:23] <clint-> refresh rate :)
[07:23] <clint-> fps
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> Hmm
[07:23] <clint-> and techsmith does a great job
[07:23] <clint-> and plus, I am going to provide screencast for netinstalls and so on
[07:23] <zetheroo> clint-: I won't buy a Mac due to Apple ... ! :-/
[07:23] <clint-> maybe some LFS stuff as well
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Nmvictor: search for the key code you are getting. Is there not a key command on the page you got the ppa from?
[07:24] <clint-> zetheroo:  hee
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> Zetheroo: +1
[07:24] <clint-> well I like the thinkpads and the macbook pro's, build custom performance workstations, etc
[07:24] <nmvictor> I get this everytime I run apt-get update. how do i solve it ::: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9BF3BB4E5E17B5
[07:25] <clint-> the
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> Nmvictor: did you read my suggestion??
[07:25] <clint-> theadmin:
[07:25] <theadmin> nmvictor: You have to import the corresponding public key for the repo
[07:25] <imprint> is it possible to return my computer to Ubuntu 9 without loosing all my data cause Ubuntu 10 does not function properly, any suggestions?
[07:25] <clint-> when gtk record my desktop ,and others can produce the quality techsmith camtasia studio does, then I'll think about using it
[07:25] <zetheroo> clint-: I really do not like the eco-system that Apple are creating ... so i won't support them ... I also have not had good experience with their service and support in the past ...
[07:25] <clint-> ;)
[07:26] <nmvictor> ActionParsnip: yea, i am tryin to remember how i got it in the first place
[07:26] <clint-> zetheroo:  every company can be a wanker with support
[07:26] <zetheroo> clint-: but I will say that some of their offerings are shiny and kewl looking ... :)
[07:26] <codebrainz> clint-, using gstreamer "directly" with gst-launch utility works pretty good for me when i tried
[07:26] <clint-> I like the thinkpads a lot too my friend
[07:26] <clint-> I work on notebooks man
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> Imprint: if your data is important then you will have a backup you can restore from after reinstalling 9.10. Rolling back is not advised nor supported
[07:26] <clint-> take them apart, clean the cpu die, reapply new artic silver compound etc
[07:27] <nmvictor> theadmin: how do i do that, isnt their a general method that would take the key as an argument
[07:27] <theadmin> nmvictor: meh, there usually are instructions on site of corresponding repo
[07:27] <zetheroo> clint-: yeah cool ... I do tech support, mostly onsite and mostly on laptops ... I have been using Thinkpads since 1999 ...
[07:27] <clint-> codebrainz:
[07:28] <clint-> the point is you have to have a high end system for quality
[07:28] <clint-> peirod
[07:28] <clint-> techsmith handles a lot more than GTK record my desktop or even demo recorder or any others and more formats
[07:28] <clint-> I'm sure something will come about as the years to come, but for now.. it doesn't
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> Clint-: I go for an easy life and buy what's super compatible :)
[07:28] <zetheroo> clint-: I hear what your saying about recordmydesktop and the like ... i have been through such nightmares about those things ...
[07:28] <clint-> and I work with several distributions, maintain windows, etc, and Mac OS X, even opensolaris
[07:28] <clint-> ActionParsnip:  I hear ya