[05:52] <redboat> does it fail when looking for modversions.h
[05:53] <redboat> why does it fail when looking for modversions.h
[05:53] <redboat> ????
[05:55] <redboat> fatal error: /lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic-pae/build/include/linux/modversions.h: No such file or directory
[05:55] <redboat> what does it mean???
[05:55] <glebihan> redboat, what command gives you this error ?
[05:56] <redboat> make
[05:56] <redboat> i AM TRYING TO INSTALL FTDI DRIVER
[05:57] <soreau> redboat: Do you have kernel headers installed?
[05:57] <soreau> ! compile | redboat
[05:58] <redboat> i dont know all that stuff this is the webpage http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm
[05:58] <gbear14275> hello... could someone help me with this instruction set.. I don't seem to be getting any traction in #linux
[05:58] <gbear14275> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=817897
[05:59] <gbear14275> and now I think I've run into a problem where my stick wont mount anymore ...
[05:59] <gbear14275> would really appreciate any time... hopefully a quick few mentorings
[05:59] <Nach0z> .w 44
[05:59] <Nach0z> ...dadgummit. stupid aliases...
[06:00] <redboat> its getting late i will read the link you saID LATER
[06:00] <redboat> thanks
[06:00] <soreau> gbear14275: Unless you have a question that's specific to ubuntu, we can't help you with that here
[06:00] <soreau> gbear14275: It's certainly not a trivial task to upgrade any BIOS
[06:01] <gbear14275> soreau, right now what I need help with is when I insert my USB stick it no longer mounts like it used to automatically in Ubuntu.  I can see it using lsusb... but ubuntu wont mount it anymore
[06:01] <soreau> gbear14275: Does it have a valid file system on it?
[06:01] <redboat> this is the full string....
[06:01] <redboat> trb@trb-A770E3:~$ tar -xvf ftdi_sio.tar
[06:01] <redboat> ftdi_sio/
[06:01] <redboat> ftdi_sio/Rules.make
[06:01] <redboat> ftdi_sio/ftdi_sio.c
[06:01] <redboat> ftdi_sio/ftdi_sio.h
[06:01] <FloodBot1> redboat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:01] <redboat> ftdi_sio/Makefile
[06:01] <gbear14275> soreau, not sure...
[06:02] <icesword> !mountusb
[06:02] <urlin2u> gbear14275, do you have a backup of your disc?
[06:02] <soreau> gbear14275: While it's plugged in, what does 'sudo fdisk -l' say?
[06:03] <soreau> gbear14275: Specifically, about the usb stick
[06:03] <gbear14275> soreau, when I tried sudo dd if=win98usb.img of=[USB device] conv=notrunc  I used /dev/sdb1 as my usb root... i think that might be why it won't mount anymore
[06:03] <gbear14275> but... I'm not sure
[06:03] <soreau> gbear14275: Also after you plug it in, check the output of 'dmesg|tail' to see what that says
[06:03] <soreau> gbear14275: And maybe try mounting the device node to a mount point directory
[06:04] <redboat> any more comments about the string???
[06:04] <gbear14275> soreau, uh... nvm it looks like its there.. one sec... filing a report in #freenode
[06:04] <quint> i am using xubuntu. when i have a silent bash startup script enabled { bash -c "cd /somedir/ blahblah.sh" & } i get this little square in the top left of my screen. it looks like it was trying to draw a window or something but failed, there is just a shadow outline. how can i make this shadow outline go away?
[06:05] <devkorcvince> where can i ask about the ubuntu app developer week?
[06:05] <soreau> redboat: You need to pastebin the full output to pastebin.com instead of trying to flood it here
[06:05] <photon> hi. while trying to install software with apt-get, apt-get also wants to remove software and I have no idea why. Also, the to-be-removed software packages have a {u} after their name. What's going on here and is it safe to proceed? Output: http://pastebin.com/UXCGaPeg
[06:06] <rww> photon: they're probably marked as automatically installed and have no packages that depend on them. since they're all library packages or similar, should be fine to remove
[06:06] <photon> rww: alright, thanks.
[06:07] <quint> why is my bash startup script that ends with "&" causing something to draw a little square shadow in the top left corner of my desktop ?
[06:07] <photon> rww: weird, just started that command again and now they don't show up, although I aborted the previous execution.
[06:08] <soreau> quint: There's a lot of things wrong with that question..
[06:08] <soreau> quint: First, what are you running in your script?
[06:08] <quint> bash -c "cd /somedir/ blahblah.sh" &
[06:09] <soreau> photon: Try 'apt-get autoremove'
[06:09] <photon> soreau: does nothing, either.
[06:09] <soreau> quint: Perhaps it's creating a 0x0 window at 0x0y
[06:09] <photon> soreau: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:09] <soreau> photon: weird
[06:10] <quint> just running the script normally does not cause that
[06:10] <quint> it only happens when i run it using the startup application setting
[06:10] <photon> yes, I know that behavior (square shadow in the top left corner). for me, it's almost always a window that is too small to display.
[06:10] <photon> try to resize it.
[06:10] <quint> photon, it isn't an actual window
[06:13] <quint> be right back
[06:18] <MissingPerson> i'm having a problem in 11.04 getting openvpn w/ password working, after importing the configuration settings provided by my vpn provider, it says "The VPN connection failed because there are no valid VPN secrets."  This never happened to me on Fedora, unsure what to do.
[06:19] <soreau> ! openvpn | MissingPerson
[06:20] <MissingPerson> soreau: already have openvpn installed, as well as network-manager-openvpn-gnome, but when i configure and attempt connections, that's the error i get
[06:21] <soreau> MissingPerson: Maybe try #openvpn
[06:27] <sburwood1> I have both a desktop computer and a portable one.  Each want to install things (opera and libnss for the portable, libnss for the desktop) but both come against a refusal because of the untrusted source.  What do I do?
[06:28] <icesword> !info opera
[06:28] <Spo> I am a newb, and I have having problems with my Ubuntu crashing - anyone up to help me out?
[06:29] <Dollz> why when I apt-get install gcc , it installs version 4.4.3, althought the current version is 4.6
[06:31] <nikolaj_basher> When I try to install rails wiht gem it seems to be installed but it isn't ? how can i solve it (I installed it with gem and Ruby with rvm)
[06:31] <Spo> I have having problems with my Ubuntu crashing - (complete lockup) what is the best log file to look at first?
[06:35] <Spo> I am having problems with my Ubuntu crashing - (complete lockup) what is the best log file to look at first?
[06:36] <icesword> what you mean lock up?
[06:36] <soreau> Spo: Probably /var/log/syslog or messages
[06:37] <Spo> will not come out of screen saver, will not go to console (ctrl-alt-f1)
[06:37] <Dollz> why when I apt-get install gcc , it installs version 4.4.3, althought the current version is 4.6
[06:38] <learner> i also hav a problem after booting into ubuntu 10.10 computer hangs after 10 or 15 min...anyone know wats the problem
[06:38] <soreau> Dollz: It's probably installing whatever's latest in ubuntu repos for the version of ubuntu you're using
[06:39] <Dollz> soreau: oh , so I should compile it myself ?
[06:39] <soreau> Dollz: If you really need latest gcc..
[06:39] <soreau> Dollz: Though I can't see why you'd need it
[06:40] <gentoo-intel> 4.6 isnt stable afaik
[06:40] <Dollz> soreau: the problem that I have "ffmpeg can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC"
[06:40] <nightripe> hi, i'm using evolution mail, but i don't have click "let messages on server" and i've got 70 mails in my evolution....but i would like to put again my mail on hotmail server, how can i do ? (sorry for my english)
[06:40] <Dollz> soreau: it still exists after running the export thing
[06:41] <Dollz> soreau: someone suggested that : #pragma GCC visibility ...
[06:41] <soreau> Dollz: Upgrading gcc wont help. You just need to rebuild ffmpeg with -fPIC
[06:42] <Dollz> soreau: yep , but I tried this , and i couldnt .. I want to make shared and not static
[06:42] <Dollz> soreau: threr are five solutions as I read: (1) static (like it was before) (2) #pragma GCC visibility ... (3) ld -Bsymbolic (4) ld --version-script ... (5) implement full PIC access (double deference, not just rip-relative).
[06:42] <soreau> Dollz: Well AFAICT, you do not need newer gcc
[06:43] <Dollz> soreau: I read that the newer gcc has # pragma GCC visibility set already
[06:43] <Dollz> soreau: so , I don't have to mess with it
[06:43] <soreau> Dollz: It's really beyond the scope of this channel. Maybe try #ffmpeg
[06:44] <Dollz> soreau: I asked that before there , and no one answered me at all :(
[06:45] <Dollz> soreau: should I try again with the -fPIC solution ?
[06:45] <soreau> Dollz: Since that is what the message is telling you, probably so
[06:46] <Dollz> soreau: k , thank you
[06:46] <soreau> Dollz: You may need to set CXXFLAGS as well if there's C++ involved
[06:47] <Dollz> soreau: k , will do that
[06:50] <Spo> I looked in the syslog, and I am seeing this "kernel:  ata5.0: status: { DRDY ERR }
[06:51] <Spo> and ata5.00 error: {ABRT}
[06:51] <Spo> right before the crash
[06:55] <vlt> Spo: I missed your initial question. Where did you find those ata messages?
[06:55] <Kartagis> hi
[06:55] <Spo> I found them in /var/log/syslog -  my computer is crashing and I am trying to figure out why
[06:55] <Kartagis> I have a problem
[06:56] <Kartagis> I see my cron running in the syslog, but what's inside don't get executed. why?
[06:57] <Kartagis> because that user is not logged in?
[06:57] <Guest> hmm
[06:59] <vlt> Spo: How many hard disks do you have?
[06:59] <Spo> 10
[06:59] <Spo> 1 solo boot drive, 9 in raid 5
[06:59] <vlt> Spo: Intel board with onboard SATA?
[07:00] <Spo> definately onboard sata
[07:00] <Spo> it is an AMD proc
[07:00] <Spo> quad core
[07:00] <Myrtti> !enter
[07:01] <vlt> Spo: Kernel 2.6.32?
[07:01] <Spo> 8 sata onboard, 2 sata by IDE controller card - everythihng was working fine, one HDD had errors, and was booted from the cluster, I replaced that HDD and the cluster rebuilt, but now this crashing problem
[07:02] <MissingPerson> i'm having a problem in 11.04 getting openvpn w/ password working, after importing the configuration settings provided by my vpn provider, it says "The VPN connection failed because there are no valid VPN secrets."  This never happened to me on Fedora, unsure what to do.  I do have openvpn and network-manager-openvpn-gnome installed.
[07:02] <Spo> I was using Ubuntu 10.10, but since it was crashing, I upgraded to 11.4 hoping the crashing would quit... it has not
[07:03] <MissingPerson> sorry for reasking, but i had to teach a class, and when i got back, my chat was cleared
[07:04] <Spo> how do I check kernel ver?
[07:04] <vlt> Spo: "uname -a"
[07:04] <Spo> kernel is 2.6.38-11
[07:05] <lol> hello
[07:06]  * lol ZZZzzzz
[07:07] <Guest> hi
[07:07] <vlt> Spo: The message says there's a problem with the drive.  I had problems with the very same errors and crashing for weeks on Intel boards and its SATA chip. I replaced the complete hardware but the error remained. Until I switched to another kernel (3.0). Runs rock stable since then.
[07:08] <Tsunami99> Hi all...
[07:08] <Spo> vlt: what is the best way to get that kernel?
[07:08] <Tsunami99> I need some help can I find it here??
[07:09] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, ask your question and see. :D
[07:09] <Myrtti> Tsunami99: don't know what your problem is so it's hard to promise that you can be helped
[07:09] <vlt> Spo: I got it from kernel.org and compiled it myself.
[07:09] <Tsunami99> my problem in ubuntu is:The panel encountered a problem while loading
[07:09] <Tsunami99> I have this message everytime I login??
[07:09] <Tsunami99> How can I fix it last time my icons all crashed and I could not open any icon or folder??
[07:10] <Spo> vlt:  site is down for maint - what do I need to know to compile the kernel once I get it, (explanation or webpage would be great)
[07:10] <Tsunami99> I searched about it till now no clear solution, I use ubunti 11.04 stable,,,
[07:10] <darrin>  thank you
[07:10] <Tsunami99> any suggestion for me??
[07:11] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, classic or unity desktop?
[07:11] <Tsunami99> classic
[07:11] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, have you tweaked compiz?
[07:11] <darrin> Hello could someone please tell me how t import my bookmarks into firefox? thank you
[07:12] <Tsunami99> I removed compiz from my system after I though its the source of the problem
[07:12] <urlin2u> darrin, do you know of firefox sync?
[07:13] <darrin> No
[07:13] <urlin2u> darrin, I use it to sync all my firefox setups, has a passwoed and a sync key pretty safe.
[07:13] <darrin> but i could look it up... Thank you for giving me a direction to go in .
[07:14] <urlin2u> darrin, you should see it in the browser what version are you running?
[07:14] <Tsunami99> any suggestion...
[07:14] <darrin> the latest  6
[07:14]  * [DeVil-BoY] hello
[07:14] <vlt> Spo: I can't find a good tutorial now. Maybe there's an easier way if you could find a PPA for a newer kernel.
[07:15] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, hard to say as you removed compiz so it would be using metacity, try in the terminal if you can metacity --replace
[07:16] <Tsunami99> TI have this problem repeating for me with different notification description once about the trashcanPapplet and other issue the message is:the panel encountered a problem while loading
[07:16] <vlt> Spo: Something like https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa
[07:16] <Tsunami99> any suggestion to fix the panael probkem??
[07:16] <Spo> vlt: thanks for all your help
[07:16] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, killall gnome-panel
[07:16] <urlin2u> hopefully
[07:17] <Tsunami99> why??
[07:17] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, it restarts it.
[07:17] <Tsunami99> will it remove it or what??
[07:17] <Tsunami99> what is the code??
[07:17] <urlin2u> shouldn't the classic is differnt though slightly.
[07:18] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, for the panel  killall gnome-panel
[07:18] <darrin> urlin2u Thank you for the info very helpful and very fast... Thanks again
[07:18] <soreau> ! resetpanel | Tsunami99
[07:18] <urlin2u> darrin, no problem.
[07:19] <Tsunami99> urlin2u, I will check it now
[07:19] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, look at tthe bot message as well.
[07:20] <urlin2u> the*
, what do you mean??
[07:20] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, ubottu is a bot.
[07:22] <ktwo> is there a gmail app (wich works like andorid) for ubuntu to web, but direct interface)
[07:23] <Tsunami99> urlin2u, I killed the panel and restore it to default will it be enough to solve the problem??
[07:25] <MissingPerson> i'm having a problem in 11.04 getting openvpn w/ password working, after importing the configuration settings provided by my vpn provider, it says "The VPN connection failed because there are no valid VPN secrets."  This never happened to me on Fedora, unsure what to do.  I do have openvpn and network-manager-openvpn-gnome installed.
[07:25] <soreau> MissingPerson: No response in #openvpn?
[07:26] <soreau> MissingPerson: You aren't even in #openvpn
[07:26] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, your fixating on the kill command just run what the bot said.
[07:26] <MissingPerson> didn't even realize they had a channel
[07:26] <soreau> MissingPerson: I told you that about half an hour or more ago
[07:27] <soreau> MissingPerson: exactly one hour ago
[07:27] <MissingPerson> soreau: yeah, sorry, somehow my chat got cleared when i walked away from my desk
[07:27] <Tsunami99> urlin2u, sorry to ask you I did not understand what the bot said and where it it!! :(
[07:28] <soreau> ! resetpanel | Tsunami99
[07:29] <Kartagis> I see my cron running in the syslog, but what's inside don't get executed. why?
[07:29] <soreau> Kartagis: What makes you think it's not being executed?
[07:29] <Sterist> how come all my updates as well as attempts to install new software error with "requires installation of untrusted packages" ?
[07:30] <soreau> ubottu: ping
[07:30] <Kartagis> soreau: it's supposed to run a bot, it's not
[07:30] <soreau> !ping
[07:30] <urlin2u> Sterist, do you see keys missing?
[07:30] <soreau> ! resetpanel | Tsunami99
[07:30] <Sterist> urlin2u i dont.... know?
[07:30] <Sterist> urlin2u how do i check this
[07:31] <urlin2u> Sterist, pastebin the whole update.
[07:31] <soreau> Kartagis: Well either your cron time isn't what you think it is, your command is faulty or the environment is lacking
[07:31] <Tsunami99> ubottu, I have done that..
[07:31] <urlin2u> Sterist, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[07:31] <soreau> Kartagis: Did you specify the full path to the command?
[07:31] <Sterist> urlin2u the packages in the update or the error notes?
[07:31] <Tsunami99> ubottu, will it solve it??
[07:32] <urlin2u> Sterist, the whole thing including the command
[07:32] <MissingPerson> soreau: no dice in #openvpn
[07:32] <Kartagis> soreau: this is my cron output from syslog: Sep  9 10:20:01 vps CRON[7786]: (iegg) CMD (PYTHONPATH=/home/iegg/f0und/f0und/lib/python2.6/site-packages /home/iegg/f0und/bin/supybot-botchk --botdir=/home/iegg/f0und/bin --pidfile=/home/iegg/f0und/bin/pid.f0und-fn --conffile=/home/iegg/f0und/bin/f0und-fn.conf --supybot=/home/iegg/f0und/bin/supybot)
[07:32] <urlin2u> Sterist, run in the terminal sudo apt-get update
[07:32] <Tsunami99> ubottu, will it solve it??
[07:32] <soreau> MissingPerson: Keep trying. It's your best bet
[07:32] <MissingPerson> they refuse to play ball unless i'm using 10.04 AND a non-network-manager client
[07:32] <Kartagis> !ubottu | Tsunami99
[07:33] <soreau> MissingPerson: Well maybe you should listen to what they're telling you
[07:33] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, that question is like asking if I drive wil I get in a wreck, chances are no.
[07:33] <soreau> Kartagis: Maybe your cron time is wrong
[07:33] <MissingPerson> i've had nothing but bad experiences with wicd and don't know anything else to use but network-manager
[07:34] <Kartagis> soreau: what do you mean by that? my package, or my command?
[07:34] <Sterist> urlin2u i just gave it another try and the updates are working now. i cancelled a "check" (--for new updates) and that seems to have been the culprit. did another check and works
[07:34] <Tsunami99> urlin2u, I apology again and I really appreciate your responses to me, wish you all the best..
[07:34] <soreau> Kartagis: I mean the cron setting to tell it when to run the command
[07:34] <urlin2u> Tsunami99, no problem ubottu is a bot for the channel so the info is accurate.
[07:36] <urlin2u> Sterist, untrusted usually means you have added a 3rd party repo and not the key.
[07:36] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys, how do i setup dual monitor in ubuntu 10.4?
[07:36] <urlin2u> Wiz_KeeD, monitors.
[07:36] <Wiz_KeeD> didn't work, i click detect i see only one
[07:37] <Wiz_KeeD> i can move mi cursor on the right
[07:37] <urlin2u> Wiz_KeeD, look closer for a box.
[07:37] <Wiz_KeeD> on the right monitor yet when i go to monitors
[07:37] <Wiz_KeeD> there is just one big pink one called vbox
[07:37] <Wiz_KeeD> vbx sorry
[07:37] <Wiz_KeeD> that's it
 thanks all for your support I will logout to see whether the problem will stay or not..  :)
[07:37] <Wiz_KeeD> not like in this tutorial http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/08/ubuntu-tips-how-to-setup-dual-monitor/
[07:38] <Wiz_KeeD> paradoxaly i also have dell
[07:38] <user_> Vsem privet.
[07:39] <Sterist> urlin2u yeah but i havent done that so unless there's some kind of remote hacking going around i should be okay :) sometimes solutions are simpler than they appear
[07:39] <urlin2u> Wiz_KeeD, you have the mirrior box off right
[07:39] <urlin2u> mirror*
[07:40] <Wiz_KeeD> it's a virtual box btw
[07:40] <Wiz_KeeD> mirror box off right?
[07:40] <urlin2u> Wiz_KeeD, not sure you can do it there really.
[07:41] <urlin2u> Wiz_KeeD, what is the host?
[07:41] <Wiz_KeeD> win 7 64 bit
[07:42] <urlin2u> Wiz_KeeD, so your trying to set the dual in the host,so you can have Windows in one and the vbox in anothwer
[07:42] <urlin2u> another
[07:42] <urlin2u> sorry guest
[07:47] <Bash> I have installed Ubuntu (and grub) on /sdc5, have windows on /sda2, I have configured grub and it recognizes windows7 and all but when I try to boot the computer all I get is a blinking cursor. What gives?
[07:48] <Bash> Do the sd*'s get mixed up after I boot or something?
[07:51] <urlin2u> Bash, you installed grub in the partition, easiest way to fix this is to see where everythinig is run this script from the booted live cd and [astebin the results.txt   http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[07:51] <urlin2u> pastebin*
[07:52] <varikonniemi> i find it interesting that bootinfoscript is endorsed here, but why is it not bundled with ubuntu installation
[07:53] <varikonniemi> wouldn't it be easier to just have a option on the ubuntu boot cd "boot info"
[07:55] <urlin2u> varikonniemi, the script is modified at times for better reading, so it would be outdated shortly at times with just grub changes.
[07:55] <Bash> urlin2u: http://pastebin.com/WLh3DD2X
[07:55] <Bash> .. and I know it's messy.
[07:56] <varikonniemi> well better than nothing still?
[07:56] <varikonniemi> i do not have the skill to start stabbing my linux if it borks up
[07:56] <varikonniemi> its infinitely easier to just format and reinstall
[07:56] <hostdream> even I'm using the http://pastie.org/2496275 as partition table in my preseed, I've the box asking me for the confirmation to write change to disk, how can I avoid this ? Can anyone help on this ? :)
[07:56] <urlin2u> Bash, you have grub in sda, it should be in the sdc mbr, and the sdc the firts read to boot.
[07:57] <varikonniemi> ubuntu is fine and dandy as long as it works, if it fails.. you are out of luck
[07:59] <vibhav> varikonniemi" if it fails ,  you are out of luck".......that is whY IRC was invented
[07:59] <urlin2u> Bash, if you use the Natty disc you can use the commands where this page defaults to read carefully.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Copy_LiveCD_Files
[07:59] <varikonniemi> well i have no luck asking my questions here, so what would you suggest as a place to start ?
[07:59] <Bash> urlin2u: But sda is my untouched windows7 drive which I have flagged to not be bootable, and I have sdc5 to be the only bootable.
[07:59] <Bash> urlin2u: Yeah, in now via flash drive. Will have a looksie.
[08:00] <vibhav> varikonniemi forums
[08:00] <varikonniemi> yesterday i asked two or three times how to get alt-tab working in games and no answer. So i just settled for "its a feature, it does not"
[08:01] <rumpel> varikonniemi, which desktop-environment?
[08:01] <vibhav> Bash search for grub rescue disk on google
[08:01] <urlin2u> Bash, the sda mbr is where the grub bootloader went, it should be in the sdc HD mbr. YOIu can reload the windows bootloader to the sda with a windows recovery disc booted to the repaier terminal, and run bootrec.exe /fixmbr
[08:02] <Bash> vibhav: Was just about to say I've tried Boot Repair,
[08:02] <jigal> hello this gives a permission denied ~$ sudo ssh -T<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:02] <jigal> any id?
[08:02] <varikonniemi> ubuntu 11.04
[08:02] <varikonniemi> rumba,
[08:02] <varikonniemi> rumpel,
[08:02] <urlin2u> vibhav, your muttering a weasy fix here.
[08:02] <vibhav> jigal could be a server error
[08:02] <Bash> urlin2u: Alright. No worries about the windows loader, how do I force it to go to sdc mbr?
[08:02] <urlin2u> easy*
[08:03] <photon> !bluray
[08:03] <rumpel> varikonniemi, i meant like unity, gnome, kde...
[08:03] <varikonniemi> well kubuntu is kde
[08:03] <vibhav> urlin2u. ok youre the best
[08:03] <Bash> urlin2u: Keep in mind that I have a seperate windows partition at the start of that partition table, does it matter?
[08:03] <varikonniemi> ubuntu is unity
[08:03] <varikonniemi> so yes, unity
[08:03] <urlin2u> bash I posted a link to reloading grub from the natty cd, it defaults to it a rather easy job.
[08:03] <rumpel> varikonniemi, not necessarily
[08:03] <Guest> ubuntu is a distro
[08:03] <varikonniemi> no but if i made a mod that big i would mention it
[08:04] <Guest> unity is not a distro so ubuntu is not unity
[08:04] <varikonniemi> by default it is
[08:04] <Guest> you mean Ubuntu 11.04 uses Unity by default
[08:04] <vibhav> guest unity is a desktop environment for Ubuntulog
[08:04] <Guest> you can change that
[08:04] <asdjaputra> Guest yes you can
[08:04] <vibhav> *ubuntu
[08:04] <rumpel> varikonniemi, i guess you can write a script, which toggles certain shortcuts via gconf.
[08:05] <Bash> urlin2u: Just to be clear, it doesn't matter that I have a windows disk (non-boot) at the beginning of the partition table?
[08:05] <urlin2u> Bash, ypu can boot the ubuntu cd and run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the out put and I will give you the commands to run.
[08:05] <varikonniemi> rumpel, now you are teaching hebrew to a infant
[08:05] <vibhav> Guest you can install other environments like LXDE or KDE
[08:05] <varikonniemi> same territory as "compile it yourself"
[08:06] <vibhav> varikonniemi your use of words impress me
[08:06] <rumpel> varikonniemi, or you can look for the shortcut-settings in unity and deactivate the "alt-tab" shortcut (if you otherwise don't need it)
[08:06] <Bash> urlin2u: http://pastebin.com/ZesnDdyx
[08:06] <urlin2u> Bash, grub will boot windows for you, I only suggested putting its bootloader back for if you removed ubuntu it would still boot on its own.
[08:06] <rumpel> varikonniemi, that's the userfriendliest solution i can think of
[08:06] <photon> hi. how well is burning own bluray discs supported in 11.04? what software and what burner can you recommend?
[08:06] <Bash> urlin2u: Gotcha.
[08:06] <varikonniemi> yes, thanks for your input
[08:06] <varikonniemi> my skills are not good enough for that
[08:07] <asdjaputra> trolling?
[08:07] <varikonniemi> if you cannot find a step by step guide that is
[08:07] <vibhav> photon my laptop burns bluray disks
[08:07] <vibhav> but it uses 10.10
[08:07] <photon> vibhav: have you tried it?
[08:08] <photon> vibhav: that is, have you actually burned one with ubuntu?
[08:08] <diverdude> hello. for some reason tab-completion in my terminal is acting strange. When i tab-complete directories it appends a whitespace in the end instead of a /. How can i change this to / again?
[08:08] <vibhav> the was a guide in some forum but i forget its link
[08:08] <vibhav> their
[08:08] <vibhav> there
[08:09] <photon> vibhav: again, have you actually burned a bluray disc with ubuntu?
[08:10] <urlin2u> Bash, http://paste.ubuntu.com/685811/
[08:10] <asdjaputra> photon, you're asking an experienced user on burning a bluray disc?
[08:10] <asdjaputra> photon, you can always search the forums for that, i'll grab one for you in a sec
[08:10] <photon> asdjaputra: no, that's not what I am asking.
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> vibhav: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/easy-blu-ray-movie-playback-in-linux/
[08:11] <asdjaputra> the softwares and burner, yes
[08:11] <vibhav> photon yes
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> vibhav: will help playback (maybe)
[08:11] <asdjaputra> photon,  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/10/easy-blu-ray-movie-playback-in-linux/
[08:11] <Bash> Right, thanks urlin2u! Will tinker away with this.
[08:11] <vibhav> ActionParsnip thia guide is similar to the one i used
[08:11] <urlin2u> Bash, just the two commands and reboot the update-grub is inside the install.
[08:12] <vibhav> ActionParsnip btw my laptop allready can ro that
[08:12] <photon> asdjaputra: and how would *playing* a blu ray *movie* help me in finding a linux-compatible bluray *burner*?
[08:12] <rumpel> diverdude, have you tried reinstalling the package "bash-completion"?
[08:12] <diverdude> Anyone?
[08:13] <diverdude> rumpel: no, do you think that would help?
[08:13] <vibhav> photon My laptop has a LG burner
[08:13] <asdjaputra> photon, i just copy what ActionParsnip said
[08:14] <madeinbl> hi
[08:14] <sinistrad> Photon, I'm using an LG burner on my desktop with 11.04 and it works with Nero for Linux
[08:14] <madeinbl> anyone tryed natty yet?
[08:14] <Guest> you can change that
[08:14] <Guest> sry
[08:14] <madeinbl> how does it support drivers?
[08:14] <bjarni> Hello everyone.  I have ubuntu 9.10 (64 bit) using gnome on my laptop and planning to upgrade to the latest version (11.04 I believe), preferably 32 bit.   Can you advice me on this?
[08:14] <photon> sinistrad: uh ok. isn't nero for linux shareware?
[08:15] <Guest> sinistrad: nexro for linux is paid ofc
[08:15] <Guest> nero
[08:15] <sinistrad> Photon, it was purchased, yes. Was you wanting only open source?
[08:15] <urlin2u> ! detail | madeinbl
[08:15] <photon> sinistrad: I'd prefer that.
[08:16] <asdjaputra> photon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[08:16] <photon> sinistrad: I've found some people have had problems with LG burners and burning bluray in general.
[08:16] <photon> sinistrad: under Linux that is
[08:16] <madeinbl> well things like webcame  audiodriver, had previous trouble with that
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> madeinbl: its fine
[08:16] <asdjaputra> photon, there's a blu ray burner part below
[08:16] <madeinbl> noe i am runing super os
[08:16] <madeinbl> and its runing fine
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> madeinbl: install cheese, does it show in that ?
[08:16] <madeinbl> well it rompts me to upgrade to natty
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> madeinbl: superOS is offtopic here
[08:17] <sinistrad> Photon, I have used k3b as well, but I don't recall how it did for actually burning movies.
[08:17] <vibhav> even I use k3b
[08:18] <madeinbl> is there any way to change sidekick menu in natty to more standart desktop
[08:18] <madeinbl> ?
[08:18] <photon> sinistrad: I don't want to burn movies, I just want to burn large files that do not fit on a DVD.
[08:18] <varikonniemi> tenX is accusing me of lying when i say that on windows7 you can alt-tab out of a game, and that no-one really need this functionality. Is this really the majority stance here?
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> photon: devede will change quality so it fits
[08:19] <asdjaputra> photon, try an UFD
[08:19] <tenX> varikonniemi: do you really need to take this in here?
[08:20] <tenX> varikonniemi: never accused you of anything, just disliked your uneducated approach
[08:20] <asdjaputra> tenX, what is he talking about?
[08:20] <varikonniemi> well i would not be asking for help if i were not uneducated?
[08:20] <lighta> hey guys, quick question is ther a way to scrool up with screen -x option ?
[08:22] <tenX> asdjaputra: he wants to alt+tab from within a game (whatever game on linux) to the next desktop app. told him the game will catch keystrokes like that for good reasons and i'm also pretty sure that doesnt work on windoze. the win key brings you back
[08:23] <varikonniemi> i never use the win key, i alt-tab out of games
[08:23] <VxQe> tenX, it does work in windows
[08:23] <VxQe> I am sure there is a workaround to get that working in ubuntu
[08:23] <tenX> asdjaputra: and now he starts this that is worthless and boring
[08:23] <asdjaputra> in linux?
[08:24] <asdjaputra> you could always edit the pref. to fullscreen - 0
 and i'm a damn professional
 tenX, it does work in windows
[08:24] <varikonniemi> a professional eh?
[08:24] <tenX> VxQe: k sure. not that i claimed to know. thought so. if you tell me i'll believe it
[08:24] <tenX> VxQe: dont see what he's upset about
[08:24] <asdjaputra> alt-tab works in every game i played in linux for now
[08:24] <oCean> please drop the offtopic discussion, this is ubuntu only
[08:25] <varikonniemi> asdjaputra, spring rts
[08:25] <varikonniemi> is the one i am talking about
[08:25] <asdjaputra> varikonniemi, will try, maybe there's a workaround to alt-tab
[08:25] <asdjaputra> i'll let you know when i got it
[08:25] <varikonniemi> ok
[08:25] <varikonniemi> thanks
[08:25] <tenX> oCean: sure i'll stop right ahead. dunno why he starts this here we had a little query
[08:26] <varikonniemi> yes i will stop also, my question was a general "how to get alt-tab workin in ubuntu, even in games"
[08:26] <varikonniemi> so originally it was not off topic, to my discretion
[08:26] <oCean> varikonniemi: enough said, let's move on now
[08:26] <varikonniemi> yes
[08:26] <varikonniemi> as i said
[08:27] <asdjaputra> varikonniemi, alt-tab works by default in ubuntu
[08:29] <VxQe> varikonniemi, I just use windows to play games.
[08:29] <varikonniemi> are you trolling me?
[08:29] <Guest> !ot
[08:29] <VxQe> In anycase, the problem is that ubuntu defers the keystrokes to the fullscreen app
[08:30] <VxQe> and doesn't capture the alt-tab
[08:30] <tenX> VxQe: see what i mean
[08:30] <VxQe> Which is what it's meant to do
[08:30] <varikonniemi> i want to play spring rts on ubuntu, not windows. i want to get alt-tab working in spring.
[08:30] <asdjaputra> let's take this to ot
[08:30] <vibhav> is bot tgus topic !ot?
[08:30] <VxQe> However there is quite possibly some other way around this.
[08:30] <varikonniemi> yeah i am searching the forums as we speak
[08:30] <varikonniemi> and there are some program suggestions
[08:30] <varikonniemi> some config magic
[08:31] <varikonniemi> will try that
[08:31] <VxQe> You could also try using a high-level hotkey
[08:31] <VxQe> Like hitting ctrl-alt-del and the just cancel out of the menu.
[08:31] <VxQe> Don't know if that would work that.
[08:31] <VxQe> Certainly not well
[08:31] <asdjaputra> VxQe, in certain game engines, alt-tab will be ignored
[08:31] <asdjaputra> and it'll refer back to ubuntu's alt-tab, switching the windows in result
[08:34] <krishnan> I was configuring LDAP on Ubuntu 10.04 server and the slapd has suddenly stopped running. Tried started running it but could not work. Please help.
[08:35] <krishnan> I was configuring LDAP on Ubuntu 10.04 server and the slapd has suddenly stopped running. Tried started running it but could not work. Please help.
[08:35] <krishnan> I was configuring LDAP on Ubuntu 10.04 server and the slapd has suddenly stopped running. Tried to start running it but could not work. Please help.
[08:35] <oCean> krishnan: we read you the first time, stop repeating please
[08:37] <ChTiPowA> Hi
[08:38] <Guest> hi
[08:38] <ChTiPowA> After major upgrade of Xubuntu, it has failed and given me this "Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127
[08:38] <ChTiPowA> I have many packets miss configured
[08:38] <ChTiPowA> I cannot do anything, i'm lost
[08:38] <Guest> ChTiPowA: #xubuntu
[08:38] <ChTiPowA> please help
[08:38] <asdjaputra> !ask
[08:38] <asdjaputra> oh wait
[08:39] <asdjaputra> sorry i only saw the last one
[08:39] <tuxlinginx> hello is there an online alien(1) converter, didn't googled so far
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> ChTiPowA: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[08:39] <Guest> asdjaputra: did you try to restart the service
[08:39] <asdjaputra> Guest what?
[08:40] <Guest> asdjaputra: slapd server
[08:40] <tp43> I had some root user WebSite files from a Debian computer that I copied over to my Ubuntu computer, but they are all showing up a greenish-yellow instead of a green-only colour and now when I put them in /var/www and try to visit them, it isn't working as expected
[08:40] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: alien? as in rpm?
[08:40] <asdjaputra> Guest what's that
[08:41] <ChTiPowA> ActionParsnip: this is Natty
[08:41] <Guest> asdjaputra: sorry my mistaked :( im tired
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> chitragupt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/845066
[08:41] <Guest> bye
[08:41] <tuxlinginx> i just ned to convert alien itself inialy and then i enable myself convert other pkgs
[08:41] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: yes rpm2deb and otherwise
[08:41] <tuxlinginx> thingy
[08:42] <auronandace> !packages | tuxlinginx
[08:42] <asdjaputra> !alien
[08:42] <tp43> How can I change permissions to make the -rwxr-xr-x files in a directory and sub directory have permission -rw-r--r--
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> tuxlinginx: is there not a ppa?
[08:42] <zHammeRz> chmod 644 I think
[08:43] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: not that easy, since im on XP right now webirc (they charge for xchat now)
[08:43] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: what?
[08:44] <tuxlinginx> ActionParsnip: ah, ill check that out
[08:44] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: i'm using xchat right now
[08:44] <urlin2u> tuxlinginx, there is a fre early xchat for windows.
[08:44] <asdjaputra> tp43, for root directory (/var/www) use chmod 775
[08:44] <tuxlinginx> link?
[08:44] <tp43> asdjaputra, thanks
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> tuxlinginx: or hydrirc which is also free
[08:44] <asdjaputra> tp43, and 644 for HTMLs
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> *hydrairc
[08:45] <tp43> asdjaputra, I have an html site that works fine when I visit index.html inside my /home/user/Documents directory, but when I copy it over /var/www/somedir/ and visit that dir it says I don't have permission
[08:45] <urlin2u> tuxlinginx, http://code.google.com/p/xchat-wdk/
[08:46] <tenX> tp43: and depending on the web app you might have to allow write access occasionally
[08:46] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: anyway, what package are you trying to get for ubuntu?
[08:46] <tenX> tp43: limited on dirs of course
[08:46] <asdjaputra> tp43, have you chown user:group /var/www
[08:46] <asdjaputra> CMIIW that might be a dangerous command
[08:47] <tp43> asdjaputra, no, but I have another site that works fine for some reason
[08:47] <hello24> web
[08:47] <asdjaputra> tp43, all folders given permision 755, and files are given permission 644
[08:47] <hello24> hi
[08:47] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: yeah thanks to all, im fine still with web irc, as long as im on firefox
[08:47] <asdjaputra> and you should change the ownership of /var/www/ to be yours
[08:47] <hello24> what is the best way to host a web site on server with dynamic ip?
[08:47] <hello24> (dhcp)
[08:48] <hello24> is there a way to make it always available?
[08:48] <hello24> i am using dns update script, but it may take hours for dns to update
[08:48] <tp43> asdjaputra, how do I do that?
[08:49] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: sorry, yeah as i said im looking for alien
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> hello24: i'd get an account at no-ip.com then install noip2   it will update the record with the new IP every 30 seconds (by default)
[08:49] <asdjaputra> tp43, first sudo chown <username>:<groupname> /var/www/
[08:49] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: why, i thought you were on xp
[08:49] <sinistrad> awas, I'm using dyndns.org, and I can set the refresh rate to something much lower than hours, but you need to check with your dns to see how fast the allow refresh before they believe it is spam.
[08:50] <tuxlinginx> ActionParsnip: is there an alien for XP?
[08:50] <awas> sinistrad: refresh with dns server doesn't matter
[08:50] <tp43> asdjaputra, are you sure I need to do that, cause I have one site that is working fine
[08:50] <awas> there are tons of other dns servers that use cache
[08:50] <asdjaputra> tp43, then sudo chmod 755 /var/www
[08:50] <awas> that is kept for some time
[08:50] <commx> can someone tell me how I can retrieve a list of present hard disk drives and their capacity without using dmesg?
[08:50] <tenX> sinistrad: i'd refresh via ddclient once a day
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> tuxlinginx: i doubt it
[08:50] <asdjaputra> tp43, well you have to be logged in as www-data to edit the files
[08:50] <tomodachi> commx:  df- h
[08:50] <tomodachi> df -h
[08:50] <b4rry[]> commx: df
[08:50] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: why don't you tell us what you are trying to do and how this is connected to ubuntu?
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> commx: sudo fdisk -l
[08:51] <scarleo> Hi, I have some trouble to relay mail to gmail with postfix. I have sasl_passwd postmapped and setup in main but still gets answer Authentication Required from gmail
[08:51] <tomodachi> commx: but that would only be mounted devices
[08:51] <tuxlinginx> ActionParsnip: i see
[08:51] <asdjaputra> tp43, and sudo chown <username>:<groupname> will assign username and groupname to /var/www
[08:51] <tp43> asdjaputra, I just sudo when I wanna edit files
[08:51] <bahamas> hello. if i plug my network cable in, shouldn't the network be configured automatically?
[08:51] <asdjaputra> tp43, ok, then you can skip that step
[08:51] <commx> that's the problem. I need to get the disk model, which sadly isn't available in both of them
[08:51] <asdjaputra> tp43, and just do sudo chmod 755 /var/www/
[08:52] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: ok, u a bit annoying aren't ya, anyway, i need an rpm based alien for armel platform
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: should do yes (assuming the chip has a driver). If not you can double check with:  sudo dhclient3 eth0
[08:52] <scarleo> bahamas, yes it should, maybe a reboot with cable plugged if it doesn't work
[08:52] <asdjaputra> tp43, and from there, you can chmod 755 to every folder within and chmod 644 for every HTML files
[08:53] <snufft> can anyone tell me if it's possible for me to remote into my dad's email computer over the net? i'm on ubuntu and he's on win7
[08:53] <bahamas> scarleo: yes, a reboot works, but it bugs me that it doesn't work from the start. also, even though the wireless doesn't work on its own, when i plug in the cable and reboot, the wireless starts working too
[08:53] <snufft> i'm going to explode if i have to listen to this crap one more time
[08:53] <tp43> asdjaputra, thanks
[08:53] <sinistrad> tenX, I have inadyn.conf set at 10 minutes, and it does fine for me.
[08:54] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: i am trying to understand why you need alien
[08:54] <scarleo> bahamas, plug your cable and see what sudo ifconfig shoes, do you get an ip?
[08:54] <scarleo> shows*
[08:54] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: is there a rpm package that you desperately need to convert?
[08:55] <tuxlinginx> hello is there an online alien(1) converter, didn't googled so far
[08:55] <tp43> ls
[08:55] <auronandace> !arm | tuxlinginx
[08:55] <tenX> sinistrad: hmm dunno inadyn. it probably compares. but ddclient output for high frequency updates asks you to be polite. and dyndns is a great service so i respect it
[08:55] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: no, otherwice
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: could install wicd, see if it manages it better for you
[08:56] <bahamas> scarleo: i'm already connected right now, and i'd have to restart my computer and then try. i'll do that next time
[08:56] <bahamas> ActionParsnip: ok, i'll do that
[08:57] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: i found alien for armel but it's a deb, i need an RPM version
[08:57] <scarleo> bahamas, if it doesn't connect, try 'sudo service network-manager restart'
[08:57] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: why?
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: uninstall network manager and reboot to get it all started up
[08:57] <devcalais> Hey team. I need a hand, I'd really like a 'widget' on my desktop that tells me my local weather forecast daily - any ideas?
[08:57] <sinistrad> tenX, I agree. It's a great service. Mine just checks IP, and if it differs, then updates with dyndns. It doesn't hammer dyndns. I wasn't having a problem, I was just letting someone else know that it can update faster.
[08:57] <auronandace> tuxlinginx: ubuntu uses deb not rpm
[08:57] <bahamas> scarleo: ok. i'll write this down
[08:57] <tuxlinginx> auronandace: to dive after osama, isn't it obvious
[08:57] <bahamas> ActionParsnip: uninstall or restart?
[08:58] <tenX> sinistrad: i see just my 2 cents :)
[08:58] <sinistrad> tenX, :)
[08:59] <tenX> sinistrad: static ips over here make inet lines really expensive at low speeds
[08:59] <Stanley00> devcalais: you can use screenlet or conkyforecast
[08:59] <tp43> asdjaputra, ok, I chmod the files and folders 644/755 like you said, and now I can see the pages, but still it isn't working quite right, the css seems broken
[09:00] <tp43> asdjaputra, I guess I have to 644 all those files
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: uninstall network manager then restart, wicd will load and be sweet
[09:02] <asdjaputra> tp43, oh and scripts that executes uses 755
[09:02] <Onepamopa> someone that knows chineese here ?
[09:02] <asdjaputra> CSS does executes right?
[09:02] <tp43> asdjaputra, thanks so much man, you are smart
[09:02] <asdjaputra> !zh
[09:02] <tp43> asdjaputra, Is there anyway around this, so I don't have to do all this chmod in the future?
[09:03] <asdjaputra> tp43, unfortunately, no
[09:03] <bahamas> ActionParsnip: ah, so wicd is a replacement for network-manager
[09:03] <asdjaputra> tp43, you have to configure it to match the files and folders
[09:03] <tp43> asdjaputra, everytime I copy a website over to /var/www I have do a bunch on chmods?
[09:03] <asdjaputra> tp43, no you won't have to
[09:03] <uno1> hola
[09:03] <asdjaputra> hola
[09:04] <tp43> asdjaputra, what do you mean?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: its an alternative
[09:04] <asdjaputra> tp43, you won't have to chmod it
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> bahamas: there is also wifi-radar
[09:04] <asdjaputra> tp43, by default every files/folders uses 644/755, i think
[09:05] <tp43> asdjaputra, like when I copy a website to /var/www from Document folder or anywhere else, I have to do a bunch of chmods right
[09:05] <tp43> asdjaputra, like I just had to do
[09:05] <asdjaputra> tp43, wait a sec
[09:06] <asdjaputra> tp43, every new file and folder will have 644/755, my theory was correct
[09:06] <asdjaputra> tp43, you'll only need to copy it to /var/www with sudo
[09:07] <bahamas> ActionParsnip: ok, i'll look into that as well. thanks
[09:07] <tp43> asdjaputra, oh, I should change /var/www to chmod 755 and then every new file will have it correct
[09:07] <tp43> asdjaputra, but I have one site that didn't require any chmods for some reason
[09:07] <asdjaputra> tp43, hmm..
[09:07] <tp43> asdjaputra, oooh, you know what, when I create directory inside /var/www then I have to make it chmod 755
[09:08] <asdjaputra> tp43, yes and by default it is
[09:08] <asdjaputra> tp43, http://www.dartmouth.edu/~rc/help/faq/permissions.html
[09:08] <tp43> asdjaputra, cause the first site I put in /var/www, and then when I added more sites, I made directories and those needed to have chmod done
[09:09] <asdjaputra> tp43, yes
[09:09] <tp43> asdjaputra, the first site was fine by default cause they were created inside the root directory which made them correct chmod setting by default
[09:09] <tp43> asdjaputra, ok, thanks so much for your help
[09:09] <asdjaputra> tp43, and made them belong to www-data by default
[09:09] <asdjaputra> tp43, may i add you can sudo chown user:group to /var/www
[09:09] <asdjaputra> so every file you add by default won't need chmod and won't need sudo to edit
[09:10] <asdjaputra> you need chmod because it's not www-data's
[09:10] <asdjaputra> so placing it there will be useless if www-data has no permission to it
[09:10] <asdjaputra> you can add a user special for adding datas to /var/www, under your password
[09:11] <tp43> asdjaputra, can you show my the command to chown user:group to /var/www
[09:12] <asdjaputra> tp43, http://www.alexatnet.com/content/debian-web-server-apache-php-and-mysql
[09:12] <asdjaputra> tp43, there's a complete server files/folders chmod rules, and how to isolate a user to a specific website
[09:12] <hyperstream> tp43, chown -hR user:group /var/www <-- will apply to everything inside it and the subfolders (recursive)
[09:13] <asdjaputra> tp43, also there is how to make vhosts
[09:13] <tp43> asdjaputra, thanks, is that you in the picture by chance or just a link?
[09:13] <asdjaputra> link :)
[09:13] <asdjaputra> tp43, alexatnet helps me in everything, and btw, just because it's debian, it won't change any commands that'll work with Ubuntu
[09:13] <tp43> hyperstream, where user is my username
[09:13] <asdjaputra> tp43, yes
[09:13] <asdjaputra> and group is groupname
[09:14] <asdjaputra> if your username and groupname is both tp43 you can add it there
[09:14] <hyperstream> tp43, yeah example: chown -hR hyperstream:hyperstream /home/hyperstream/
[09:14] <tp43> my username is tp43 but I don't know my groupname
[09:17] <Stanley00> tp43: id command will show you ;)
[09:18] <asdjaputra> if it's the first one you made it should be the same
[09:18] <asdjaputra> asdjaputra:asdjaputra
[09:18] <asdjaputra> tp43:tp43
[09:18] <tp43> ok
[09:18] <tp43> thanks
[09:18] <asdjaputra> !seen
[09:18] <asdjaputra> hmm
[09:19] <asdjaputra> how to send suggestions for ubottu?
[09:19] <asdjaputra> i meant for ops that did ubottu?
[09:20] <bazhang> asdjaputra, /msg ubottu to use factoids
[09:20] <bazhang> !factoid > asdjaputra
[09:21] <asdjaputra> hmm, thanks bazhang
[09:25] <liran> hello every one
[09:25] <Xdept> Sup
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: the syntax is:  /msg ubottu !beer is Beer is a tasty beverage
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: for example
[09:34] <asdjaputra> my question was how to give suggestions to ops that develop ubottu
[09:35] <asdjaputra> and ActionParsnip i don't think the ! will be needed on msg
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> asdjaputra: aaah http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[09:35] <oCean> asdjaputra: you make a suggestion in private /msg with ubottu, it gets forwarded to the ops channel
[09:36] <asdjaputra> ActionParsnip, ok thanks, and i remember we can say something random to ubottu and she'll reply with thank you your suggestions <...>
[09:36] <oCean> asdjaputra: they then will consider your suggestion
[09:36] <asdjaputra> oCean, what's the command for that
[09:36] <oCean> asdjaputra: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins#Adding_a_factoid
[09:36] <oCean> asdjaputra: but in private /msg with ubottu please
[09:36] <asdjaputra> oCean, sure, no flooding here :)
[09:38] <ihbs-2010-001> who are you??
[09:38] <asdjaputra> oCean, are the factoids going to be local?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> ihbs-2010-001: that's a deep question if ever there was one
[09:39] <ihbs-2010-001> okay
[09:39] <ihbs-2010-001> s
[09:39] <ihbs-2010-001> okay
[09:40] <Bash> Still can't get my seperate ubuntu drive to show up, right after boot it just sits at a blinking cursor.
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> Bash: what video chip do you use?
[09:41] <Bash> Pretty certain I've done the grub install right, is it a major problem if a windows partition preceeds the grub drive?
[09:41] <cillo564> this is about clementine player: I have recorded music from internet radio, the problem is that when i add the music folder to library and change one of tracks album cover, the all music tracks have same album cove
[09:41] <Bash> ActionParsnip: Oh sorry, meant that grub doesn't initialize.
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> Bash: if you hold shift at boot do you see grub?
[09:42] <Bash> ActionParsnip: Nope.
[09:42] <Bash> ActionParsnip: It's as if it finds nothing when it tries to boot from ANY drive.
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Bash: then boot to liveCD and reinstate grub
[09:43] <Bash> ActionParsnip: I've done that now, tried different settings in which partition to flag for boot etc,
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> Bash: the boot flag is irrelevant
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> Bash: grub config is loaded and uses the config there, only windows uses boot flags
[09:44] <Bash> ActionParsnip: I have windows7 on sda, sdc1 is windows (non-boot), sdc2 is ubuntu (with grub) and sdc3 is swap,
[09:45] <Bash> ActionParsnip: I have installed grub onto sdc2, pointed it to boot from sdc
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> Bash: is the drive which is sdc set as boot drive in BIOS?
[09:45] <Bash> ActionParsnip: Yup. I even tried booting every different drive, all are the same with the empty blinking cursor.
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> Bash: if you start liveCD booting then select to boot the internal drive, does it boot ok?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> Bash: ok, what is the video chip you use?
[09:46] <Bash> ActionParsnip: Nope, it flashes for just a second but just goes away.
[09:47] <Bash> ActionParsnip: ati
[09:47] <Snicksie> shouldn't matter in the booting process, should it? :)
[09:47] <albech> i have this strange thing happening where when i click on locations under 'Places' (Ubuntu 10.10) it tries to open the location in VLC
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> Bash: tried chrooting and adding boot options to use safe vga etc? May stop the blinking cursor bit
[09:48] <Bash> I can get into ubuntu on the flash drive no problem, full resolution and working fine, just wont boot.
[09:48] <Bash> ActionParsnip: It's more just a blank stop, it won't think or read the drive or anything
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> albech: run nautilus and right click on a folder select 'open with' then tell it to be opened with nautilus and remember to tell the OS to remember the setting
[09:49] <Snicksie> have you tried installing grub into the mbr, Bash ?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> albech: seen it a million times: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1631961
[09:49] <dr_willis> albech:  somehow the file assocation got set to be vlc instead of the 'open folder' item. nit sure fo the best way to fix it. i use ubuntu tweak. but its not supported here
[09:49] <Bash> Snicksie: I think I did, can I double-check to make sure?
[09:50] <dr_willis> i hope they fix that issye in tge next release. or make it easier to fix
[09:50] <Bash> I mean now if I'm to try it again so I know for sure.
[09:50] <nowhere_man> Hi all
[09:50] <Snicksie> you said you installed it to sdc2 ? That doesn't seem a mbr, it seems like a pbr ;) Just try sdc instead :)
[09:51] <Bash> Snicksie: Right, grub is installed on sdc2 but it's pointed to boot at sdc
[09:51] <nowhere_man> I have a problem with the panel with Ubuntu on an EeePC
[09:51] <Bash> Atleast I think that's the way?
[09:51] <albech> ActionParsnip, dr_willis, thanks both of you
[09:52] <Snicksie> i'm not 100% sure, but I only got my ubuntu back bootable by installing grub to sda (so that means in your case sdc :) )
[09:52] <nowhere_man> it only disappear when an application is launched, and masks the categories of application ("games", "accessories", etc.)
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> !panels | nowhere_man
[09:54] <Bash> Snicksie: Looks like it's both installed to mbr of sda and sdc
[09:55] <Bash> http://paste.ubuntu.com/685849/
[09:55] <Bash> Correct me if I'm wrong, but "looks at sector 1 of the same hard drive", wouldn't that mean it checks sdc1, which is windows?
[09:56] <thoidingjam> sendpass
[09:57] <Dollz> how to install a git ? http://git.videolan.org/?p=ffmpeg.git;a=commit;h=b7b61ff6a31d4ffa1fb9a0ebeb1579d84c01c0b7
[09:57] <Snicksie> i guess sector 1 is NOT used by windows, Bash ... as far as I can see, windows only starts from sector 1701 and further :)
[09:58] <thoidingjam> sendpass thoidingjam
[09:58] <Snicksie> thoidingjam, do you mean /nickserv sendpass thoidingjam  ?
[09:58] <sdk__> Identify nickserv 123
[09:58] <Snicksie> */msg nickserv sendpass ...
[09:58] <thoidingjam> m trying to recover
[09:59] <Bash> Snicksie: Alright, but grub on mbr sda that shouldn't have any effect on grub on sdc though right?
[09:59] <Snicksie> you should send that in a private message to nickserv
[09:59] <oCean> thoidingjam: use #freenode for support please
[09:59] <sdk__> Hi all
[09:59] <Snicksie> it might chainload from sda to sdc, but it shouldn't have any effect as far as I know, although my knowledge is limited to :p
[09:59] <thoidingjam> it says join a channel, sorry to bother
[10:00] <RedViper> I have a Gigabyte: Intel Celeron T3500, 2GB DDR 2. How do I get my web cam working? Is there a specific program?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: the cpu and ram are of zero relevance to the webcam
[10:00] <Bash> Snicksie: I might have to take a look at this tomorrow. Thanks anyway!
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: if you run: lsusb    what is output? use http://pastie.org to host the text
[10:01] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: I'm just letting you know the make and everything. :D
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: if you install cheese do you see yourself?
[10:01] <rigved> Dollz: better if you download the patch and use that.
[10:02] <devcalais> Someone mind having a browse at this pastebin and telling me what I'm doing wrong? trying to compile a .tar
[10:02] <devcalais> http://paste.ubuntu.com/685852/
[10:02] <Dollz> rigved: i'm downgrading
[10:02] <Dollz> rigved: I've a recent version  , but unstable
[10:02] <rigved> Dollz: downgrading? how? best if you ask in #videolan
[10:03] <Dollz> rigved: nice channel .. thank you
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[10:03] <sdk__> Install lua and its header files dude
[10:03] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Ok hold on I'm installing it now. I have pasted.
[10:04] <sdk__> Lua
[10:04] <rigved> Dollz: you are welcome.
[10:04] <devcalais> natty.
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:vincent-c/conky; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install conky     gives you 1.8.1
[10:04] <devcalais> ActionParsnip - natty, 11.04 64bit!
[10:05] <devcalais> ActionParsnip - was my syntax to compiling a .tar file correct, though? Just unlucky on a dependancy?
[10:05] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Have you seen the paste?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: the ppa will give the version you want
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: you need to copy the url the page changed to and paste it here
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: no idea, but there is a ppa with a binary of what you need, so why bother
[10:07] <devcalais> ActionParsnip - ... self education, why else!
[10:07] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/2507615     - Sorry forgot :D
[10:07] <sdk__> Did you read above.?
[10:07] <sdk__> Install Lua headers usually -dev (pkg name) and Lua too
[10:07] <sdk__> :)
[10:09] <scarleo> I'm trying to setup logwatch to ignore "packets to tcp(51413)" I just added that line straight into ignore.conf as it accepts regexp but that doesn't work. Anyone know how I can configure it?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: no idea, that's why I asked!
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> !info lua5.1
[10:10] <devcalais> Awkward Ubuntu nub question - how do I launch conky, now that I've installed it? It's not appearing under a lense search for 'conky'. Awkward.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: press ALT+F2 and run:  conky
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: not really awkward
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: is it built into the system or is it USB based?
[10:11] <dori922> hey! im making a file server for windows clients, what good to get the windows filesystem working with linux file systems? (Clients will be in different companies/locations so Samba isnt suitible cause it wants workgroups) :D
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: if you don't see it, run it in a terminal. You may need to copy a .conkyrc from in the OS (or online) to make it run
[10:12] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: I have a laptop, yes it is built in.
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> dori922: install samba and you can share folders
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: is there a switch to turn it off and on?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: what is the make and model of the system?
[10:12] <dori922> ActionParsnip: samba requires workgroups which makes it unsuitible
[10:13] <dori922> ActionParsnip: my clients wont all be the same workgroup
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> dori922: it can work with active directory
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> dori922: it can be added to an existing workgroup easily
[10:13] <Dazzled> hi I'm trying to format an old partitioned HDD, but it won't allow me to unmount a certain ext3 partition
[10:13] <Dazzled> it claims it's still mounted to /
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: seems your compile needs lua5.1 installing
[10:13] <Dazzled> but if I try unmount or even sudo umount, it won't unmount
[10:14] <klingelbart> hi, I'm using unity. do you know how i can make my system execute a shell script after login?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: then its your system partition that you are booted to
[10:14] <dori922> ActionParsnip: cleints dont have windows server :(
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> dori922: they don't need it, you can create samba passwords and gran access to shares
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> dori922: let me pastebin my smb.conf, you can see if its what you want
[10:15] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip, well I connected it when I was running this instance, so that would be odd
[10:15] <Dazzled> but, It is the cloned version of it
[10:15] <GreekFreak> hello. Can anybody help me with Synergy+?
[10:15] <Dazzled> so perhaps it detects the same UUID or something
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> dori922: http://pastie.org/2507659
[10:15] <devcalais> ActionParsnip: that's just a dependancy based on whatever package I was trying to compile? Nothing wrong with my method of compiling the package at all?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: you can make a partition have a different UUID
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: looks spot on, just needed to satisfy deps
[10:16] <dori922> ActionParsnip: thanks :) the how-to's and tutorials for setting up SAMBA were all saying you needed a specific workgroup for your clients :o
[10:16] <devcalais> ActionParsnip: I'm just happy I got the syntax correct ;) avoided the immediate problem. Cheers!
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> dori922: see how andy has access to all, but leanne only has access to her own stuff ;)
[10:16] <dori922> ActionParsnip:  i have that down with chroot :p
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> devcalais: np, using PPAs makes life a tonne easier, plus the packages will gel with the existing ones making install / remove as easy as any other package
[10:17] <shai28> Hello, I've installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my computer, during the updates (using the update manager) the window of the update manager got stuck so I pressed on the cancel button and now every time I would like to make update I getting this error : E:Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/il.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_universe_i18n_Index (1) any idea how to solve this ?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> dori922: is that functionality you need though?
[10:17] <Dazzled> klingelbart, add the .sh to "BootApplications"
[10:17] <Dazzled> and it'll run as soon as the system runs
[10:17] <Dazzled> I don't know it's called boot applications, as I have a Dutch version of Ubuntu, but putting Boot in the search window will list a purple icon with a green arrow in it
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> shai28: http://pastie.org/2507666
[10:17] <executionist> how can i access my file system from the terminal? I cant cd above the home folder
[10:17] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: No there is no switch, On the computer or on Ubuntu? Gigabyte - E1500
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: is it a tablet?
[10:19] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Tablet? By the way - Cheese has installed and it's saying No device found.
[10:19] <klingelbart> Dazzled: how do i do that?
[10:20] <executionist> cant open folders above the home folder in terminal :/
[10:20] <Dazzled> klingelbart, click on the Ubuntu logo on the top left
[10:20] <Dazzled> should bring up a humungeous search bar
[10:20] <klingelbart> Dazzled: i know^^ but if i type in boot, nothing appears
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> executionist: are the folders owned by it's respected owner?
[10:21] <dori922> ActionParsnip: yeah :) i have everything so i just needed windows interoperability for different users!
[10:21] <executionist> nope, its the filesystem
[10:21] <executionist> its not that I cant, i dont know how to
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> dori922: yeah thats cool, you can add users with:  sudo smbpasswd -a name
[10:22] <sdk__> Haha
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> executionist: cd foldername
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: are there any bugs reported?
[10:22] <dori922> ActionParsnip: and workgroups is ignorable?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: have you contacted Gigabyte?
[10:22] <Dazzled> klingelbart, perhaps it's called Sessions?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> dori922: I've only ever used 1 workgroup tbh
[10:23] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: No, why?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: may have already been reported and be a known bug
[10:23] <klingelbart> Dazzled: i want a script to be executed after login, not while booting
[10:23] <sdk__> There used to be ubottu the bot aaround here ye?
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> dori922: as long as the user can log in when challenged, it will get access
[10:23] <ikonia> sdk__: it's still here
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> !ubottu
[10:23] <executionist> ActionParsnip, I want to open /media/new volume/program files. I cannot go outside /home from the terminal
[10:23] <ikonia> sdk__: just not online at this moment
[10:23] <sdk__> Ikonia oh hai
[10:23] <sdk__> Cool
[10:24] <executionist> cd just takes me to /home
[10:24] <sdk__> Ahhh ok :)
[10:24] <dori922> ActionParsnip: oo key :D the "   workgroup = WORKGROUP" in the tutorials kept tripping me
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> executionist: sure you can. Just run:  cd /media/new\ volume/program\ files
[10:24] <RenaKunisaki> cd '/media/new volume/program files'
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> executionist: use TAB to complete the file names, make sure CASE is exact, linux is VERY case sensitive. So if it is Program\ Files   it is different to program\ files
[10:25] <executionist> k, lemme try that
[10:25] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: No, there are no bugs, it wont work, nomatter what I do. Is there something in system I can do?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> executionist: could use:  cd /media; ls   and go from there
[10:25] <jigal> hello when i do ~$ sudo ssh -T<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:25] <jigal> i get a popup for a password but dont know which password to add
[10:25] <jigal> any idea's?
[10:26] <ikonia> jigal: shy are you using sudo to ssh ?
[10:26] <Dazzled> klingelbart, I know what you mean, my script runs after I log in
[10:26] <Dazzled> it even waits until there's an internet connection
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: make sure it is enabled. could reboot and run:  dmesg | less    see if its detected. Ggabyte may have some proprietary garbage which needs a driver to work and get access to the cam
[10:26] <klingelbart> Dazzled, hmmmm
[10:27] <Dazzled> klingelbart, Startup Applications
[10:27] <jigal> ikonia, without the sudo i get the same popup
[10:27] <Langly> Hello unknown sample
[10:27] <ikonia> jigal: yes, that's correct, without sudo it's the password for the user "git" at the remote server
[10:27] <ikonia> jigal: there is no reason so use "sudo" to run the ssh command
[10:27] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Why do I need to reboot? I can't really do that now. Can't I just run dmesg ?
[10:28] <Dazzled> I googled the translation, so I guess that could be it
[10:28] <klingelbart> Dazzled. ok got it. it's called litte different, cause i have got the german version
[10:28] <Dazzled> :) Lost in translation
[10:28] <shai28> ActionParsnip: now when I doing update I getting the next errors - W: Failed to fetch http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/restricted/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found , W: Failed to fetch http://il.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/multiverse/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found etc..
[10:28] <bambanx> guys how can i do a image of my system of all my system ?
[10:28] <prc33> any reason why a standard 10.04.3 server install would fail to get an IP via DHCP? (networking works if I give a static IP with ipconfig))
[10:28] <klingelbart> dazzled, no click on "add?"
[10:29] <Dazzled> add, and then browse to your .sh file
[10:29] <sdk__> Jigal its the password you used to encrypt your SSH private key. Must have encrypted at some point in the past :)
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> shai28: try changing server to the main server, or an alternate server
[10:30] <Dazzled> Name and Comment you can choose whatever, the Path should point to your sh file
[10:30] <klingelbart> Dazzled, ok, got it. now ill test it...
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: sure, reboot just reduces the messages. Just read down until about no ipv6 available. Do you see anything mentioning the webcam?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> bambanx: dd or partimage are 2 options
[10:31] <duk0vv> hi everyone, i recently bought an usb pendrive that i suspect being fake,  i see that on windows there are some utilities that let you (at least) sort it out, is there any of those on Linux? (possibly off repo but it's not a problem if not)
[10:31] <sdk__> !tell sdk_ about metapackage
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: what do the utilities do?
[10:32] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: No, should I paste it? Maybe I'm missing it.
[10:32] <ssk_the_gr8> how do i find out speed of my ram?
[10:32] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: apparently (this is just a guess ) they fill the usb key with data and then see if it gets corrupt, as the output says "XX GB are available XX are junk"
[10:33] <Sidewinder1> I don't think ubottu is "on board", this morning...
[10:33] <sdk__> Is it sick? cough cough
[10:34] <ssk_the_gr8> somebody please help me ? :(
[10:34] <sdk__> Ye probably called in sicky
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: if you don't see it then the OS isn't seeing it
[10:34] <Sidewinder1> Stuck, I think.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> or asleep
[10:35] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, tried lshw yet?
[10:35] <sdk__> Ask away if someone knows will tell you :)
[10:35] <Sidewinder1> Or perhaps, taking the day off.
[10:35] <sdk__> Yeah
[10:35] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Great, what now?
[10:35] <diverdude> package name was php5-xdebug
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: all i can suggest is report a bug
[10:36] <diverdude> anyone?
[10:37] <jigal> sdk__, i generated a new key and now i get permission denied
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: do gigabyte make linux drvers for the webcam?
[10:37] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: The thing is it's not showing up. The other thing is how do you know it's a bug, for all we know it might be me. :D
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> diverdude: what is your question?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: if its not in dmesg then its not pickuing up. Its also not showing in lsusb
[10:38] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: yes
[10:38] <ssk_the_gr8> dont get the ram speed
[10:39] <sdk__> Jigal you need your pub key in the remote host
[10:39] <ssk_the_gr8> only size and width
[10:39] <sdk__> Anyone here got good.link on great sssds? :)
[10:40] <ikonia> sdk__: that's not an ubuntu topic, as you know
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> sdk__: what is an sssds?
[10:40] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, I see here clock: 1333MHz (0.8ns)
[10:40] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, I did "sudo lshw > mysystem.txt" and then open it and look for "bank"
[10:40] <sdk__> Solid state drives
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> sdk__: then ask in ##hardware
[10:41] <sdk__> Ikonia ahh
[10:41] <sdk__> Haha
[10:41] <duk0vv> hi everyone, i recently bought an usb pendrive that i suspect being fake,  i see that on windows there are some utilities that let you (at least) sort it out, is there any of those available on Linux? (possibly off repo but it's not a problem if not)
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: you can wipe it with gparted if that is what you mean
[10:42] <sdk__> Actionparsnip ahh
[10:42] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: under bank:0 i have description, slot, size,width,physical id... thats it  no clock
[10:42] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: I'd like to know if the X GB advertised are really available or its just a 128mb key claiming to be a "big boy"
[10:42] <scarleo>  Hi, phpmyadmin is not taking my blowfish secret, it warns me even though I entered one in config.inc.php. What is the solution?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: insert the device, wait 10 seconds then run:  sudo fdisk -l
[10:44] <sdk__> All righty. Later folks. Feel trollish so off I go
[10:44] <trmbon1> i need some help with my window frames
[10:44] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, "cat /proc/meminfo"
[10:45] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: just sudo fdisk -l ? it gave me no output
[10:45] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, nm, doesn't list clock
[10:45] <trmbon1> can anybody help me my window frames have disappeared and i cant figure out how to get them back
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: the -l is a lowercase -L
[10:46] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: So you don't have any other suggestions?
[10:46] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: yup, i wrote L
[10:46] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: so many values... all in KB....
[10:46] <oCean> ssk_the_gr8: in sudo lshw -C memory, there's also the clock specification
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: none, other than report a bug
[10:46] <ssk_the_gr8> oCean: it's not there.. do u want me to paste the output?
[10:47] <oCean> ssk_the_gr8: no need, I have it's output from many systems.
[10:47] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, sudo dmidecode --type 17
[10:47] <Dazzled> this lists speed
[10:47] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks allot for the help. I will get onto reporting a bug. Thanks again :D
[10:47] <oCean> ssk_the_gr8: for example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/685871/
[10:48] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: also, isn't it supposed to give me the same info disk utility (gui) would?
[10:48] <ssk_the_gr8> oCean: http://paste.ubuntu.com/685872/
[10:48] <ssk_the_gr8> here you go check it out
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: did you get an output this time?
[10:48] <oCean> ssk_the_gr8: did you run it sudo?
[10:49] <ssk_the_gr8> yes
[10:49] <oCean> ssk_the_gr8: never seen this before
[10:49] <ssk_the_gr8> i  ran sudo su at the start
[10:49] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: actually, i forgot sudo the L was written correctly i thought i had admin already, my bad
[10:49] <oCean> ssk_the_gr8: never do that, to start a root shell (if you ever need one) do  sudo -i
[10:49] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: dmidecode .... does not work too says Speed unknown
[10:49] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: but isn't this same output diskutility would give me?
[10:49] <ssk_the_gr8> oCean: reasons?
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> i never dare to advise sudo -i
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: i guess, gparted should also show you
[10:50] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: the problem is that if it's fake it's probably using some patched firmware that shows it's a X (the amount you paid) GB stick, if you put more data into it it gets corrupt
[10:51] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: besides any program or stuff like that, wouldnt putting files into the stick and then comparing checksums do the trick?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: could format it in gparted if there is noting on there you need
[10:52] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: no nothing i need, I'll format and report back, does it have to be gparted or diskutility is going to be fine? (don't want to sound lazy but i dont have gparted installed on this machine)
[10:52] <ambro718> Which Ubuntu versions use Upstart? Does the current development version (oneiric) use Upstart or Systemd (or is there a compatibility layer - can I ship Upstart scripts in oneiric)?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: whatever can delete the partition and then make a new one. If you are going to share between windows and linux, use ntfs, otherwise use ext2 :)
[10:53] <Stanley00> ambro718: I dont know, but natty use upstart, I think
[10:53] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: what now?
[10:53] <ssk_the_gr8> oCean: any other suggestions?
[10:53] <ssk_the_gr8> :(
[10:53] <nlko> how can i tell what distro version is from the console?
[10:54] <rigved> nlko: lsb_release -sc
[10:54] <nlko> ah, lucid, thats not the latest is it?
[10:54] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, that's really odd, are you sure you're in sudo mode when executing said command?
[10:55] <ssk_the_gr8> a # appears when you're in sudo mode, right?
[10:55] <ssk_the_gr8> nlko: but it's the most stable, i'm using it
[10:55] <rigved> nlko: that's the latest LTS. if you want the latest, then that is natty (11.04). oneiric (11.10) will release on oct 13.
[10:55] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, close all terminals, open a new one, and enter "sudo dmidecode --type 17"
[10:55] <Dazzled> it'll prompt for a password
[10:56] <rigved> nlko: lucid is stable, as ssk_the_gr8 pointed out.
[10:56] <nlko> ah ok, so no rush in moving from lucid then?
[10:56] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: ok done, it states its a 7,5 gb usb key (its sold as 8 GB but i guess that it may be legit if it was 7,5 rounded to 8 because of the decimal?) but according to some (non reliable sources) patched firmwares may spoof such results, would copying stuff into the pendrive , copying back and checking its checksum defeat any of my paranoias?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: that's about right
[10:56] <ssk_the_gr8> dmidecode: unrecognized option '--type17'
[10:57] <nlko> i just noticed 11.04 was out and wondered why apt-get upgrade didnt get it
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: probably due to decimal/binary stuff. I wouldn't sweat it
[10:58] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: http://paste.ubuntu.com/685879/
[10:58] <ssk_the_gr8> output, check it out
[10:58] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: thank you very much for all your answers, i appreciate, AT LEAST i can sleep tight tonight (the main concern was permanently infected usb to be honest, not smaller sized lol)
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: oh absolutely :)
[11:00] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: what absolutely? :P
[11:00] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, no idea then, guess your system can't read it, or perhaps it's damaged
[11:00] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: is it damaged?
[11:00] <ssk_the_gr8> i got it from my friend
[11:00] <Dazzled> you could try swapping it into another socket or machine
[11:01] <Kartagis> can I chroot only users under /home ?
[11:01] <Dazzled> in case it's the mobo that can't read it
[11:01] <ssk_the_gr8> the computer seems to be working fine
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> duk0vv: about the main concern
[11:01] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, what brand is it?
[11:01] <petriborg> I've got a dell poweredge 1950 server w/ raid 1 (via perc controller) and after install of 10.04r3, it never boots properly. The error it gives me is "Gave up waiting for root device." "ALERT! /dev/mapper/myboxname-root does not exist." there are lots of threads on this issue, but not a lot of clear solutions - does anyone have any ideas?
[11:02] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, normally it's printed on the RAM
[11:02] <duk0vv> ActionParsnip: it's unlikely, but possible, and although it would be a minor concern on linux those usb keys may be used on Windows Pc's and I'd like to be a good  neighbour (not my windows pc's as i dont have any)
[11:02] <RedViper> sudo shutdown -h 13:00  - This code allows me to shutdown my computer, how do I cancel it, in the terminal?
[11:02] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: right now the memory module is in slot 0 , the other slot is empty, will it be ok if i move the module to slot 1 and keep slot 0 empty?
[11:03] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: it had a sticker on it...  it was..... Kingston
[11:03] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, I don't know for sure if leaving slot 0 empty would cause errors
[11:04] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: i have the same doubts
[11:04] <Dazzled> not a second unit around which you could temporarily upgrade with said stick of RAM?
[11:04] <squig> is there a way to tell what packages I have installed?
[11:04] <jrib> squig: use your favorite package manager
[11:04] <ssk_the_gr8> i have my old ram sticks.....
[11:04] <ssk_the_gr8> what do you want me to do?
[11:05] <Dazzled> My idea was to put the unreadable ram sticks into another machine, and see if they can be read there
[11:05] <squig> jrib, how would I use apt and get a textual list?
[11:05] <natarajan> hai
[11:05] <natarajan> i'm new user in ubuntu
[11:05] <jrib> squig: dpkg -l | grep '^ii'
[11:05] <natarajan> i need help ?
[11:05] <Dazzled> if yes, it's the mobo of the first system, if no as well, it's the ram
[11:05] <Tindo01> can someone tell me how i can turn off dash?
[11:05] <flipcoder> hey my friend is getting a "sector read error" when he tries to install ubuntu from a usb flash drive made with unetbootin, any ideas?
[11:05] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: hmmm.. i'll have to look for a ddr2 machine then
[11:06] <Dazzled> and Kingston is a fairly well known brand, so it would baffle me if it wouldn't be detected
[11:06] <squig> jrib, thanking you. (I have about 50 computers which should all be identical, on some of them flash works and on some it doesnt)
[11:06] <Sidewinder1> !ask | natarajan
[11:06] <natarajan> I need to take a backup to my phone
[11:06] <ssk_the_gr8> natarajan: which phone?
[11:06] <Tindo01> how do i use the old desktop for ubuntu 11.04?
[11:07] <auronandace> !classic | Tindo01
[11:07] <natarajan> contacts & Sms in phone memory
[11:07] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, how about you put an old ram stick into slot 0, and the new one in 1
[11:07] <Dazzled> and then try some of the earlier commands again
[11:07] <Tindo01> thank you
[11:07] <natarajan> ssk_the_gr8: HTC Wiled fire
[11:07] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: i was thinking the same thing... i'll give both your  ideas a try... later
[11:07] <auronandace> Tindo01: bear in mind from 11.10 onwards there will be no more gnome2 (so you may want to try xfce)
[11:07] <natarajan> andriod os
[11:08] <ssk_the_gr8> auronandace: is xfce like gnome 2?
[11:08] <auronandace> ssk_the_gr8: i find it better, but that is a matter of personal taste
[11:08] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, Ubuntu CD's come with memtest+ preinstalled, but I don't know what information it provides
[11:09] <RedViper> This code allows me to shutdown my computer, how do I cancel it, in the terminal? sudo shutdown -h 13:00
[11:09] <family> how you can halp ??
[11:09] <executionist_> just installed ubuntu, all my videos play with a blue tint
[11:09] <family> what
[11:10] <natarajan> ssk_the_gr8: pls help
[11:10] <jrib> RedViper: tried searching « man shutdown » for "cancel"?  You can search man pages by typing: /cancel<enter>, then pressing 'n' and 'N' to go to next and previous hits
[11:10] <ssk_the_gr8> auronandace: even i'm looking for a unity alternative for oneric, so i was asking
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu
[11:10] <ssk_the_gr8> natarajan: dont know abt droids
[11:10] <ssk_the_gr8> sorry
[11:10] <flipcoder> hey my friend is getting a "sector read error" when he tries to install ubuntu from a usb flash drive made with unetbootin, any ideas?
[11:10] <Dazzled> I _had_ gnome, but it started to misbehave
[11:10] <Dazzled> so now I'm a forced Unity user :(
[11:11] <natarajan> ssk_the_gr8: my phone is HTC wildfire
[11:11] <Dazzled> although with decent HW, it does run okay, it's just all too hidden
[11:11] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: i shifted back to lucid, because of that
[11:11] <auronandace> ssk_the_gr8: try out different desktop environments (gnom3 unity kde xfce lxde enlightenment) see what you like
[11:11] <RedViper> This code allows me to shutdown my computer, how do I cancel it, in the terminal? sudo shutdown -h 13:00?????
[11:11] <executionist_> ty ActionParsnip
[11:11] <Dazzled> and Gnome3 seems to be realizing features nobody asked for :(
[11:12] <ssk_the_gr8> auronandace: just been 5 months with linux.... seems risky :|
[11:12] <jigal> can someone help me with my problem http://pastebin.com/h5wANHu7
[11:12] <Sidewinder1> RedViper, Did you try what jrib suggested?
[11:12] <auronandace> ssk_the_gr8: you'll get the hang of it, try them in virtualbox vms
[11:12] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: you're in the same boat :) , time to look for a new DE
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: simple websearch dude
[11:13] <ssk_the_gr8> auronandace: virtualbox... never used it... can u link me to a good tutorial.. ?
[11:13] <Dazzled> ssk_the_gr8, I wish there was something easily customisable
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: kde is easily changed. LXDE is great imho :)
[11:13] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled: have you tried, lxded, xfce ..... all DE's ?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> !vbnox | ssk_the_gr8
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> !vbox
[11:14] <ssk_the_gr8> ActionParsnip: thanx
[11:14] <Dazzled> I haven't been shopping around, as I'm wary of breaking my stuff :)
[11:15] <Dazzled> I have a tendency to get my Linux broken whenever I set out to change a simple thing
[11:15] <Dazzled> I've learned a lot, though :p
[11:15] <ssk_the_gr8> same here, learned a lot tough
[11:16] <Dazzled> well, Ithe XDE looks nice IMO
[11:16] <RedViper> This code allows me to shutdown my computer, how do I cancel it, in the terminal? sudo shutdown -h 13:00
[11:16] <maxagaz> what should I use to configure my touchpad ?
[11:16] <maxagaz> (on gnome)
[11:17] <nnull> Dazzled, Would you break your leg so you could learn how to use crutches? ;)
[11:17] <Dazzled> nnull, well that's a nice way of putting it
[11:18] <executionist_> is it possible to run an application with wine if it is not installed using wine but sitting in your windows program files?
[11:18] <Dazzled> I managed to have to switch graphics drivers after I switched my HDD to a new laptop
[11:18] <Dazzled> all glory to netroot
[11:18] <nnull> Dazzled, puts a different perspective on it doesnt it hehe
[11:18] <Sidewinder1> executionist_, I don't think so, but I don't usually use wine.
[11:19] <ssk_the_gr8> do i need to check if my cpu has vt?
[11:19] <Dazzled> well yeah, I'm not afraid to jump in :p although landing is still off most of the time :p
[11:19] <ssk_the_gr8> ActionParsnip:
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> nnull: its the same method i used to learn linux. many breaks and many reinstalls
[11:19] <Dazzled> is there something like RainMeter for Ubuntu desktops?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> ssk_the_gr8: if you want a 64bit guest, then yes. most times a 32bit guest is fine
[11:19] <Dazzled> and not with the gadgets and all that, or cacaphonic combinations of screaming colors
[11:20] <th0r> Dazzled: gkrellm ?
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: what does rainmeter do?
[11:20] <executionist_> ActionParsnip, how long is the learning curve for linux?
[11:20] <nnull> ActionParsnip, Indeed, im not disagreeing with it.
[11:20] <Dazzled> rainmeter is a Windows customisation tool
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: its never ending, just like any OS
[11:20] <ssk_the_gr8> if i install windows xp in virtual box will cpuz be able to detect my ram?
[11:20] <ssk_the_gr8> Dazzled:
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: you can customize linux to the hills
[11:20] <tp43> How can I test if my system has a working mail system that will be able to run a form-to-mail script php page
[11:20] <executionist_> ActionParsnip, but by when do you think I will stop coming to irc for every little thing
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ssk_the_gr8: it will use as much ram as you assign in the vm settings
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: depends on teh
[11:21] <ssk_the_gr8> ActionParsnip: will it detect the ram clock speed etc?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> the individual, a few months should be fine. make sure you use the web before asking in here and you will earn
[11:22] <jrib> RedViper: why do you keep repeating your question and ignoring replies?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> ssk_the_gr8: should pickup whatever the host tells it, using windows tools to test ram in any way is a poor test
[11:22] <ssk_the_gr8> ActionParsnip: linux tools are not working that is why i'm looking at this solution
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> ssk_the_gr8: if you want to see your ram speed then run memtest from grub
[11:23] <flipcoder> hey guys how do you deal with a "sector read error" when trying to install
[11:23] <Sidewinder1> executionist_, Please read and search: http://ubuntuforums.org/   That's how I learned.
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> flipcoder: i'd grab the ultimate boot cd and check the drive with manufacturers tool
[11:24] <ssk_the_gr8> ActionParsnip: memtest , how long does it take?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> ssk_the_gr8: how much ram do you have?
[11:24] <Sidewinder1> executionist_, Another great link, if you're just getting started is: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[11:24] <flipcoder> thanks, will try that
[11:25] <executionist_> will check them, not great with reading though
[11:25] <AFD> I'm having trouble connecting a VPN client to the VPN server. The server is working ok for other clients. Can someone help me troubleshoot
[11:25] <ssk_the_gr8> ActionParsnip: 2gb
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> ssk_the_gr8: not too long then
[11:26] <Dazzled> memtest can be interupted I believe, but it won't give you much information then, it does some different "marches" to test its sectors
[11:27] <ssk_the_gr8> ActionParsnip: still an approximate time ?
[11:27] <ssk_the_gr8> i've heard it takes hours
[11:28] <Dazzled> depends on what you need, if you want to be sure it's free of faults, it will have to test all of it
[11:28] <Dazzled> if you only need the speed
[11:28] <Dazzled> perhaps it'll be visible immedeatly
[11:28] <Sidewinder1> ssk_the_gr8, I don't think memtest stops, until you stop it; an hour or two should be enough to discover any problems.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> ssk_the_gr8: i don't know. there may be estimates online. You can stop it part way but it will give the latencies of the ram etc
[11:29] <executionist_> can someone recommend a good packet sniffer and port scanner?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: nmap
[11:29] <yuwono> hi all
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: wireshark
[11:29] <yuwono> can help me please
[11:29] <Dazzled> executionist_, BackTrack?
[11:30] <crshbndct> howdy folks
[11:30] <executionist_> wireshark is for linux too?
[11:30] <Sidewinder1> executionist_, Or zenmap if you prefer gui of nmap.
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: thats a distro, not a packet sniffer or port scanner
[11:30] <yuwono> i need a program for DWF file
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !info wireshark
[11:30] <executionist_> yeah a gui is better for me at this stage
[11:30] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip, Ah I see
[11:30] <Dazzled> I remember it containing all of those things though :p
[11:31] <Dazzled> but it's not what he asked :)
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: wireshark was on Linux first
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> !find nmap
[11:31] <Dazzled> wireshark on windows = not capturing localhost
[11:31] <crshbndct> 2 questions: how do i check my fps in a wine game in ubuntu?
[11:31] <Dazzled> wireshark on linux, it just works
[11:32] <executionist_> i see, didnt know that. I thought it was a windows software
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> crshbndct: is there an option in winecfg
[11:32] <crshbndct> and how should i partition my drive, now that i have decided to boot windows out of the picture altogether
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: it is, it was simply ported
[11:32] <crshbndct> ActionParsnip, thanks.. i will have a look for that
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> crshbndct: if not then see if your app has a switch to show fps
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> crshbndct: or ask in #winehq
[11:34] <Eidel> Does anyone know how to include mounted network locations in save dialogs? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/60061325/2010-12-03-193539_1360x768_scrot.png
[11:34] <Eidel> without using stuff like sshfs
[11:34] <Sidewinder1> crshbndct, Do you want to dual boot or delete windows altogether?
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Eidel: I always run:  ln -s ~/.gvfs ~/Mounts
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> Eidel: then drag ~/Mounts in nautilus to the left panel
[11:35] <crshbndct> delete windows altogether. i finally got fallout 3 working perfect in ubuntu, and that was the only reason i still had windows
[11:36] <Eidel> ActionParsnip: Cool. Will try!
[11:36] <executionist_> apps from the ubuntu software center always slow to download?
[11:36] <Sidewinder1> crshbndct, ext4 would be the normal filesystem; also ext3, but it's older.
[11:36] <Eidel> ActionParsnip: Yay. Thanks alot
[11:37] <doubi> Greetings all. I know how to set the Title of an individual tab in gnome-terminal, so that when that tab is selected the Window takes on that title. It would be nice not to have to name each of my tabs though. Is there a way to set the name of a gnome-terminal Window, irrespective of the names of the terminal tabs?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: try a different server. May help. I always use apt-fast in cli. I find software-centre too slow
[11:37] <crshbndct> i was more wondering which partition sizes i should go for.. its a 500gb drive
[11:37] <crshbndct> and i was thinking /-64gb /home-the rest of the drive.
[11:38] <crshbndct> but then i read that you should have a /var partition too
[11:38] <executionist_> could take a while to find the optimal server. the default is too slow
[11:38] <th0r> crshbndct: you probably won't need more than 20GB for / ... if you have more than 2GB ram and don't intend to suspend to disk you can skip swap
[11:39] <executionist_> btw I didnt see there were multiple servers :D
[11:39] <Sidewinder1> crshbndct, Never heard of a separate /var.
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: worth it in the long run
[11:40] <crshbndct> i have 8gb ram and i dont have swap atm
[11:41] <th0r> crshbndct: I would set 20GB for / and put the rest in /home. I set aside 20GB and am only using about half that.
[11:41] <zykotick9> crshbndct, i wouldn't both trying to separate /var or /usr (unless you're installing a server), more trouble then it is worth on a desktop.  I also wouldn't recommend you forgo swap entirely, just create a small one.
[11:42] <zykotick9> s/forgo/NOT forgo/
[11:42] <crshbndct> yeah i currently have the LAST 4gb of my drive as swap. it never gets used except when VLC has a brainfart
[11:42] <executionist_> you can set aside space for /home too?
[11:43] <suman_> hey hi when ever i connect my iphone to the computer it says unable to mount iphone..  unhandled lockdown error (-4)
[11:43] <suman_> any help
[11:43] <Sidewinder1> executionist_, Yes.
[11:43] <crshbndct> i will probably have a 40gb for /, as flightgear with the entire world worth of landscape files is 18gb, and it install into /bin/share/blah/blah
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: sure, a seperate /home partition makes backup easier and reinstalling easy too, you just tell the installer to not format the partition and mount it as /home and your settings will stand
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> crshbndct: woah, thats a lot
[11:44] <executionist_> right now I put some 300 for / and 10 for swap
[11:44] <suman_> can i get some help please
[11:44] <th0r> crshbndct: I have flightgear installed, but not the world <smile>. with 500GB you can afford to be generous
[11:44] <executionist_> is that the wrong way?
[11:44] <Dazzled> vlc brainfarts a lot lately
[11:45] <squig> suman_, ask away
[11:45] <Dazzled> to the point I'm looking for diapers
[11:45] <suman_> hey hi when ever i connect my iphone to the computer it says unable to mount iphone..  unhandled lockdown error (-4) ...any help
[11:45] <th0r> Dazzled: I went back to an earlier version of vlc...seems the latest 'improvements' leave something to be desired
[11:45] <squig> suman_, what do you want to happen?
[11:46] <suman_> i just want to copy some of the photos from my iphone to the computer
[11:46] <suman_> but when ever i try to connect my iphone to the computer .. it pops up the message
[11:46] <executionist_> get an android dude
[11:46] <squig> suman_, there is a deamon that runs on your computer that runs when you plug your iphone in and it appears to be broke
[11:46] <squig> executionist_, my android phone is great, apart from when it turns it self off
[11:46] <suman_> O_o...
[11:47] <suman_> any suggestion on how to fix it
[11:47] <suman_> ?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: which version?
[11:47] <executionist_> squig,  make and model? why would it turn off?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: of vlc, that is
[11:47] <squig> executionist_, i guess because its buggy, is a zte blade running cm7.0.3
[11:47] <zykotick9> squig, it's a daemon not a deamon ;)
[11:48] <executionist_> squig,  maybe try the stock rom
[11:48] <crshbndct> th0r i know. i went on an ftp spree one weekend and d/l'd the whole lot
[11:49] <squig> executionist_, aah its not much use at all with the stock orange rom
[11:49] <executionist_> squig, lol is it still on 1.6?
[11:50] <squig> executionist_, its a strange orange thing, I acquired the phone to see how android was vs iphone
[11:50] <executionist_> squig,  and what was the verdict
[11:50] <squig> oh completely confused, where do flash updates come from for chromium
[11:50] <squig> android is cheaper and interesting but my iphone 4 was loverly
[11:50] <cricket42> how to check what motherboard i have from linux?
[11:51] <Dazzled> sorry, was distracted for a moment
[11:51] <Dazzled> The Luggage IIRC
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> squig: if you have flashplugin-nonfree then it will use that
[11:52] <SHADOW_LIONHEART> buongiorno a tutti
[11:52] <Sidewinder1> cricket42, I'm just guessing, but have you tried sudo lshdw?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> cricket42: sudo dmidecode --type baseboard
[11:53] <Sidewinder1> !it > SHADOW_LIONHEART
[11:53] <squig> ActionParsnip, i do and im quite confused chromium is showing version 9.0.999 apt is showing  flashplugin-nonfree                            <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[11:54] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip, 1.1.9 The Luggage
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> squig: then it will use that package, there is a flash 11 rc if you want from omgubuntu just remove the flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-installer package and copy the .so to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugin   There may be a deb too
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: and the output of: lsb_release -sc
[11:55] <squig> ActionParsnip, i am happy with <IP_ADDRESS> I dont get where 9.0.9999 is coming from
[11:55] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip, natty
[11:56] <executionist_> chromium better then firefox?
[11:56] <executionist_> *than
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> Dazzled: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:chimerarevo/vlc/ubuntu; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade       will give 1.1.11
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: there is no better, or best.
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> executionist_: some like chromium, some hate it and like firefox
[11:56] <ssk_the_gr8> intalling extension pack on virtualbox i get an error
[11:56] <ssk_the_gr8> NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005)
[11:57] <Dazzled> ActionParsnip, thanks, trying that now
[11:57] <ssk_the_gr8> i'm trying to install the usb extension pack
[11:57] <ssk_the_gr8> waht is the fix?
[11:57] <squig> i love chrome/ium except with google services where it is much slower (go figure)
[11:57] <bjarni> Hi all.  How do I upgrade python on my Ubuntu 9.10 (64 bit).  The version installed is 2.6.4.  Seems to be the latest supported on this ubuntu version.  I read somewhere python2.7 doesn't work, but what about 2.6.7 for instance?
[11:57] <crking> hi
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> bjarni: Karmic is no longer supported here or anywhere else
[11:57] <squig> is there a way to see what package provides a file?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> squig: dpkg -S filename
[11:58] <crking> what package should i install . to make file-roller enable to unarchive the fole.r01 fole.r02 fole.r03 ...... fole.r0n
[11:58] <cricket42> did it..thanks
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> cricket42: unp rar unrar p7zip-full p7zip-rar
[11:59] <Sidewinder1> NP
[12:00] <bjarni> Yes ActionParsnip.  That's among the reasons I was asking this morning about how to upgrade to the latest version.  I have 9.10, 64 bit.   There are instructions on the ubuntu site that i'll have to upgrade incrementally.  Is that the way to go - and can I upgrade to 32 bit?
[12:01] <crking> hjsplit ARCHIVE TYPE in linux?? what is the package? for file roller
[12:01] <squig> dpkg -S  /var/lib/flashplugin-installer/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[12:01] <squig> dpkg: /var/lib/flashplugin-installer/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so not found.
[12:01] <squig> howcan that be?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> squig: dpkg -S libflashplayer.so
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> squig: is your OS 64bit?
[12:03] <squig> dpkg: *libflashplayer.so* not found.
[12:03] <squig> yes im 64 bit
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> squig: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep "flash|gnash|swf"   and I can advise (get you 64bit flash instead of stupid nspluginwrapper + 32bit flash)
[12:04] <crking> anyone????
[12:05] <Faustus2> how does one get italic in gnome-terminal (vim)?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> bjarni: you will need a reinstall if you want to change arch (64bit to 32bit)
[12:05] <Stanley00> crking: rar unrar p7zip-full p7zip-rar will help
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> cricket42: also install unp :)
[12:06] <crking> Stanley00:  what exactly for split archive ?
[12:06] <bjarni> ActionParsnip: Will my home directory stay intact?
[12:06] <Stanley00> crking: I think unrar will know what to do with r01 file :D
[12:07] <Sidewinder1> bjarni, You should back-up yout /home.
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> cricket42: split archives can be used by many compression tools, the commands they give will handle it. you don't have a different rar manager in windows for split rar files do you? It's the same app
[12:07] <Sidewinder1> your, even.
[12:07] <bjarni> ok.  Just one more question.  Is the 32 or 64 bit better?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> bjarni: if you have /home on a seperate partition then yes. Your backups can easily be used if you don't
[12:07] <squig> ActionParsnip, driving me crazy, 2 computers which should be the same flash works on one and not on the other
[12:07] <squig> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[12:07] <squig> Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS
[12:07] <squig> Release:	10.04
[12:07] <squig> Codename:	lucid
[12:07] <FloodBot1> squig: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> bjarni: there is no single answer to that
[12:07] <squig> oops sorry paste
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> squig: Use a pastebin as I CLEARLY asked
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> thanks :)_
[12:08] <bjarni> ok ActionParsnip, Sidewinder1, thanks :-)
[12:08] <Sidewinder1> NP
[12:08] <squig> ActionParsnip, tried to cut and paste failed http://pastebin.com/k26sKDmW
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> squig: np man
[12:08] <squig> was trying to paste the pastebin address
[12:08] <Guest99447> quit
[12:09] <szuja> hi
[12:10] <wielkiszu> hi :)
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> squig: http://pastie.org/2508056
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> squig: will also install the 11.0.1 rc :)
[12:11] <ries> hello! Is there a command to view the license info of a package ?
[12:13] <markit> hi, I've insalled 11.04 on a laptop of a friend of mine. Today he tells me (and I've seen that is true) he turns the laptop on and only a blinking cursor on the top left apperars, if then he presses "power off" the laptopt powers off. Could it be that he has done some "suspension" and we are not able to boot anymore? Any tip?
[12:14] <Mrokii> Hi. An app has crashed just when I opened a menu (in the menubar) and now I have an "empty" square where the menu should have rolled down. Is there a way to get rid of that without a logout?
[12:17] <SwitchDK> Mrokii: Are you able to right click on it and select close or remove or something similar?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> squig: obv, close all browsers and rerun to load the new plugin
[12:17] <Mrokii> Nope
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: are you using unity?
[12:17] <Mrokii> SwitchDK: That never works in these cases (had that before as well)
[12:17] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: No, I am using the classic desktop
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: ;press ALT+F2 and run:  killall gnome-panel
[12:18] <lebear> hello guys, you don't mind a non-ubuntu related question?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: it will rerun and should be ok
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> lebear: yes, this is ubuntu only support
[12:18] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: Thanks, will try.
[12:18] <lebear> is there any general support channels on the ubuntu network?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> lebear: #linux maybe
[12:18] <lebear> hardware?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> ##hardware
[12:19] <ikonia> lebear: ubuntu network ?
[12:19] <bazhang> !alis | lebear
[12:19] <iceroot> !alis | lebear
[12:19] <bazhang> ikonia, ubuntu software lists freenode as ubuntu servers
[12:19] <ikonia> ahhh
[12:19] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: Worked like a charm, thanks :)
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: np man, just so you know from Oneiric onwards will use unity2D and will replace ubuntu classic session
[12:20] <lebear> thanx
[12:20] <Faustus2> how does one get italic in gnome-terminal (vim)?
[12:21] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I know, unfortunately.
[12:22] <frantk> lebear: the most general support channel is #freenode
[12:23] <iceroot> Faustus2: ?
[12:23] <iceroot> Faustus2: the font?
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: xfce isn't a tonne different to gnome in looks and menus
[12:23] <jrmcm1985> can i ask a question about general scripting here or is there another channel i should look in?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> jrmcm1985: ask away
[12:24] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: but a lot in performance :)
[12:24] <Stanley00> jrmcm1985: try join #bash :)
[12:24] <Pici> jrmcm1985: #bash might be more relevant, but you're welcome to ask here (we might send you away though) :)
[12:24] <iceroot> jrmcm1985: #bash # python and so on
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: i dunno, xubuntu is losing its light edge if you ask me
[12:24] <jerk> hey there... recently switched to ubuntu 10.04 from windows... and it's awesome!!!
[12:25] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: xubuntu is a good choise if you like gnome2 but perfomance on xubuntu isnt better then on ubuntu-desktop
[12:25] <Faustus2> iceroot: no.. one can use italic and bold in vim and i think with "echo"
[12:25] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: I have only looked at that briefly and I think it looked rather ugly to me. But maybe I should give it another try. Or maybe I'm thinking about something else, not sure.
[12:25] <Dazzled> does anybody know if anything has improved in the plymouth package?
[12:25] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: so there is only one supported DE in ubuntu left which doesnt come with very strange features
[12:25] <Dazzled> was looking for some boot animations for a terminal, but plymouth doesn't look good
[12:25] <Dazzled> and doesn't work half of the time
[12:25] <Kartagis> how to lengthen the default password to 12?
[12:26] <Sidewinder1> jerk, Welcoma aboard. :-)
[12:26] <Sidewinder1> Welcome, even.
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: lubuntu is official from oneiric onwards afaik
[12:26] <jrmcm1985> lol ok thx everyone. what im looking for is a way to run a script have it ask a yes or no question, read the answer and run another script or exit. then after the script second script has run ask the same yes/no question.
[12:26] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:26] <jerk> thanks Sidewinder1
[12:26] <jrib> Kartagis: there is no default password
[12:26] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: and that is very good and i like lxde very much
[12:26] <jerk> I just wanted to check out the place, so to say
[12:27] <Kartagis> jrib: Warning: truncating password to 8 characters
[12:27] <squig> jrmcm1985, it looks like your trying to write a program
[12:27] <Kartagis> I mean this
[12:27] <jrib> Kartagis: context?
[12:27] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: i hope they never do something like gnome2 - gnome3, kde3 - kde4, gnome - unity
[12:27] <Kartagis> jrib: userdel command
[12:27] <squig> was supprised the removed gnome2 from the new release :/
[12:27] <squig> it will be the end of my ubuntuing
[12:28] <bazhang> !ot | squig
[12:28] <iceroot> squig: try xubuntu and lubuntu
[12:28] <jrmcm1985> squig: yea sorta
[12:28] <iceroot> squig: all other distris will remove gnome2 too
[12:28] <jrib> Kartagis: what ubuntu version is this and what did you type exactly?
[12:29] <Kartagis> jrib: useradd -m -N -p $(openssl passwd -crypt passthatexceeds8chars) users
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: 'mate' exists, it's unofficial though
[12:29] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: based on?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> squig: there are other DEs than gnome
[12:30] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: or something different?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: gnome2, check omgubuntu
[12:30] <jrib> Kartagis: this is an issue with your usage of openssl
[12:30] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: but no support anymore from the gnome-team
[12:30] <Stanley00> jrmcm1985: look like you need to read some bash basic, info bash is also good
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> squig: you can run KDE and run al the Gnome apps you do now. No Unity and you can stay using Ubuntu...
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: true
[12:30] <squig> ActionParsnip, kde makes me sad
[12:30] <jerk> one thing I need to ask is.. how to get BOTH my speakers and headphone to work at the same time in Ubuntu
[12:30] <Kartagis> jrib: hmm, is there a way not to truncate the pass?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/08/gnome-2-forked
[12:31] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: one very big advantages of debian is that they are very slow so the next release will also contain gnome2
[12:31] <Kartagis> they removed gnome2 from 11.10?
[12:31] <Pici> iceroot, ActionParsnip, squig: Can we please move the discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:31] <iceroot> Kartagis: yes
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> squig: LXDE? XFCE? E17? Awesome? Open/flux/blackbox?
[12:31] <jrib> Kartagis: don't use openssl?
[12:31] <iceroot> Pici: its ubuntu related about what de to use
[12:32] <lebear> yeah, but there will be a "GNOME3 Classic" mode (right?)
[12:32] <Kartagis> jrib: then pass is plaintext
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> jrib, Kartagis Sounds like ubuntu has a max. of characters for psswd and he's wondering if there's a way to increase that, no?
[12:32] <jrib> Kartagis: no
[12:32] <jrib> Sidewinder1: no that's not the issue
[12:32] <bazhang> lebear, no
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> jrib, Sorry, I misunderstood... :-(
[12:32] <squig> ActionParsnip, that you for the fork message, I think that was very ontopic. I havnt touched E since the 90's
[12:32] <Stanley00> lebear: it only has unity and unity2d :)
[12:32] <lebear> Oh my... I hate unity
[12:33] <lebear> just have to wait for a workaround then
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> squig: still, there are alternatives. You may find gnome2 gets dropped by the gnome team. What then? Drop Linux??
[12:33] <Pici> #ubuntu is for support only. #ubuntu+1 for Oneiric discussion, other discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:33] <Kartagis> jrib: it is, I've just checked /etc/shadow
[12:33] <iceroot> squig: xfce4 looks like gnome2 if you like the look and feel of gnome2
[12:33] <iceroot> squig: build with "xubuntu-desktop"
[12:33] <jrib> Kartagis: your issue is the way you are generating the hash
[12:33] <Kartagis> Sidewinder1: exactly
[12:34] <Pici> !ot | iceroot ActionParsnip squig etc
[12:34] <iceroot> Pici: its not offtopic
[12:34] <squig> yes, xfce is possibly the way forward
[12:34] <jrib> Kartagis: here, read this: http://www.gnu.org/s/libc/manual/html%5Fnode/crypt.html
[12:34] <lebear> one thing that annoys me with Unity is the Zeitgeist database, which keeps track of everything you do. I know it's core to Unity functioning, but is there a way to get rid of it anyway?
[12:34] <Pici> iceroot: yes it is.  If you want to talk about Oneiric, join #ubuntu+1
[12:34] <iceroot> Pici: xubuntu-desktop is part of ubuntu
[12:34] <iceroot> Pici: we are talking about xfce4 not 11.10
[12:34] <squig> i have 100 workstations I have to maintain and the desktop changes are too much
[12:34] <Pici> iceroot: you're all discussing a lot of things.
[12:34] <iceroot> Pici: imo all related to ubuntu and 11.04
[12:35] <bazhang> iceroot, please, its gotten way offtopic
[12:35] <Pici> iceroot: its related to 11.10
[12:35] <Sidewinder1> Kartagis, I have no idea how to increase the max. char. for password; I thought that was what you were asking.
[12:35] <jrib> Kartagis: if you want to use it through bash, there's a crypt function in perl
[12:35] <iceroot> Pici: i dont think so but because you have the possibility to use /kick i am quit now :)
[12:36] <squig> is xfce in 10.04 ?
[12:36] <iceroot> squig: yes
[12:36] <iceroot> squig: called "xubuntu-desktop"
[12:36] <jrib> Kartagis: once you read that page to understand the issue, if you're not sure what to do, googling "useradd perl crypt" will give you plenty of example usages
[12:37] <jrib> Kartagis: of course now the real question is why are you doing this?  That is why aren't you just entering the password later instead of putting the password in plaintext in your shell's history?
[12:40] <Kartagis> jrib: I wanted to use a script to add users
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> squig: or install xfce4  for a minimal xfce where you can use your current gnome apps
[12:40] <jrib> Kartagis: why?  Do you want to add users in bulk or something?
[12:41] <Atharva> Hi....sry to ask this question on this channel..But does cooling the CPU increases the speed of it ?
[12:41] <iceroot> Atharva: no
[12:41] <Blinny> Recently upgraded from 8.04.4 to 10.04.3. I'm experiencing a phenomena where a NIS slave will not bind to an NIS master if network-manager service is started. If I stop the service, suddenly NIS will bind and start. Anyone know the cause of this problem off-hand?
[12:41] <jrib> Atharva: ##hardware
[12:41] <__njvic> hello there... i am getting a 'permission denied' error when dpkg tries to install a package (apache2.2-common).  So I tried manually changing permissions on the file in question, and get permission denied.  I am running the commands as root, how do I try and resolve this problem?
[12:41] <Phase> I use Lubuntu (lxde+openbox), what would be a good small program to install to assign a global hotkey to a command? I'd want it to support multiple keys of course, and particularly the super/winkey key
[12:41] <squig> Atharva, iceroot no unless the speed has been limited because of its temp
[12:41] <jrib> __njvic: pastebin full input and output
[12:42] <iceroot> squig: but it makes it never faster then the default
[12:42] <Kartagis> jrib: no, just didn't want to enter the password everytime
[12:42] <Atharva> iceroot jrib squig : Thanks...
[12:42] <Kartagis> jrib: that is a bad, bad idea, yes?
[12:42] <jrib> Kartagis: "everytime"?  You're using the same password for several users?
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> ^ Than ain't a good idea. ^
[12:43] <jrib> !away > daemoneye
[12:43] <squig> there is a password generator in the repository
[12:43] <Kartagis> jrib: of course not
[12:44] <__njvic> http://pastebin.com/hgcm16Z1
[12:44] <Kartagis> jrib: I just wanted an easy way to add users
[12:44] <iceroot> squig: mkpasswd
[12:44] <jrib> Kartagis: just use adduser (not useradd) and enter the password when it prompts you
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:44] <Phase> Kartagis: adduser
[12:44] <Sidewinder1> Mornin' Blue!
[12:45] <BluesKaj> hey Sidewinder1
[12:45] <jrib> __njvic: are you using ubuntu?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> squig: does flash now work ok? I missed the result..
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[12:45] <squig> ActionParsnip, yes thank you
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> squig: cool, runs a little cleaner too
[12:46] <squig> iceroot, was thinking of apg
[12:46] <squig> ActionParsnip, I have to script that to role out to all of my machines. but the one where flash didnt work now does
[12:47] <Sidewinder1> jrib, I'm not purposefully trying to be obtuse, nor am I trying to hassle you; does ubuntu have a maximum character limit of 8 for passwords?
[12:47] <__njvic> jrib: no... but am hoping for some help related to this (if I can make progress on this perhaps the other errors will go away): chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf': Permission denied
[12:47] <BluesKaj> hey ActionParsnip
[12:47] <__njvic> everyone in #debian is asleep
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> squig: it's in my post inastall script :D
[12:47] <ikonia> Sidewinder1: I don't believe it's 8 chars in modern linux
[12:47] <jrib> Sidewinder1: nope, but if one uses DES for the hash it truncates passwords to 8 characters.  With md5 passwords can be arbitrarily long.  See: http://www.gnu.org/s/libc/manual/html%5Fnode/crypt.html
[12:47] <squig> ActionParsnip, I use cfengine to maintain the computers
[12:48] <jrib> __njvic: ask in #debian
[12:48] <LastNight> was  incredibale, unforgetable
[12:48] <jrib> __njvic: or whatever the channel for the OS you are using is
[12:48] <sun__> whois oln
[12:48] <LastNight>  /whois
[12:48] <LastNight> what
[12:48] <Sidewinder1> ikonia, jrib Many thanks; I'm just trying to learn; I'll chk that link. :-)
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> squig: i see. I only reinstall 2 systems, the other 2 never get touched but I'll look into it. I need a prioject
[12:49] <jrmcm1985> whois ActionParsnip
[12:49] <__njvic> jrib: ok... it just so happens that on my ubuntu system, when I run chmod as root, it tells me that permission is denied.  What might cause that?
[12:49] <LastNight> why do babys smell so darn good?,man, there's nothing like it
[12:49] <jrib> __njvic: show me
[12:49] <LastNight> ?
[12:49] <Pici> !ot | LastNight
[12:49] <squig> ActionParsnip, puppet might be better/easier/nicer/freindlier but i am just used to cf-engine
[12:49] <__njvic> chmod: changing permissions of `/etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf': Permission denied
[12:49] <ikonia> __njvic: you shouldn't be root in ubuntu
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> squig: thanks for the heads up
[12:50] <__njvic> lol... ok whatever.. thanks.
[12:50] <jrib> __njvic: someone's already speaking with you in #debian... why don't you just get help there instead of lying here?
[12:50] <LastNight> jrib , snitch
[12:50] <IdleOne> !coc
[12:51] <squig> lol, sign code of conduct :/ no thank you
[12:51] <coraxx> question - does the Ubuntu Community have a strategy/model/procedure in regards to people who would like to learn how to contribute to Ubuntu/Linux with the development of linux-drivers (hardware-support / reverse-engineering) ?
[12:52] <IdleOne> nobody said you had to sign it but please try to follow it when in here (at least)
[12:52] <LastNight> ubuntu == FBI
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> coraxx, I believe that there's a development channel.
[12:52] <nnull> LastNight, would explain a lot lol
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> squig: its part of becoming a member :)
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> !contribute | coraxx
[12:53] <coraxx> Sidewinder1: ok ...do you know the name of the channel ?
[12:53] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, Thanx, forgot about that factoid.
[12:53] <Pici> coraxx: You may want to take a look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu - if you have more questions, on where to get started you can ask in #ubuntu-community team
[12:53] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-community-team
[12:53] <Pici> coraxx: Also #ubuntu-kernel might be good for your particular interests.
[12:54] <Pici> IdleOne: right, thanks.
[12:54] <IdleOne> No problem
[12:54]  * Sidewinder1 Clapps and thinks, the more the merrier.
[12:54] <FrikinBigIndian> eh der
[12:54] <FrikinBigIndian> ows it goin
[12:54] <FrikinBigIndian> bro
[12:58] <Sidewinder1> Lag? Or is everyone hiding?
[12:58] <BluesKaj> having breakfast
[12:58] <IdleOne> trolls are reassessing strategy probably
[12:58] <Sidewinder1> :D
[12:59] <coraxx> thanx all. I'm going to check-out the devel channel on this irc-server ...but I'm hoping for something more specific.
[12:59] <Sidewinder1> coraxx, It's a process; one step/link leads to another to ano...
[13:05] <coraxx> I think a more worked-out procedure in regards to people who wants to _learn_ how to contribute could be a good thing to develop in the Ubuntu Community.  So more and more who have some knowledge of programming can contribute.  AND also, so we can get people involved who have hardware that is unsupported...have them run software that can analyze it, for reverse-enginering.
[13:08] <Sidewinder1> coraxx, You may wish to ask in ubuntuforums.org, if you haven't already. Also a inquiry to Canonical might be advisable.
[13:08] <coraxx> Sidewinder1: good idea...I'll try that :-)
[13:09] <Sidewinder1> Best of luck.
[13:11] <Pici> Sidewinder1, coraxx: Canonical aren't really the folks to talk to about this.  I suggest you drop into #ubuntu-community-team and discuss your ideas there.
[13:12] <XEDDO> can somebody help me with high (100%) iowait?
[13:13] <tp43> How can I setup my mail system so I can use php mail() function?
[13:14] <tp43> you guys can't even debug a simple form-to-mail script?
[13:14] <coraxx> Pici: ok...will do
[13:14] <Blinny> Recently upgraded from 8.04.4 to 10.04.3. I'm experiencing a phenomena where a NIS slave will not bind to an NIS master if network-manager service is started. If I stop the service, suddenly NIS will bind and start. Anyone know the cause of this problem off-hand?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> tp43: neither can you?
[13:15] <tp43> I know, I am a visitor, I am not the channel admin
[13:15] <IdleOne> you waited almost a full minute before complaining
[13:15] <tp43> I know you guys can do it, but you guys are neglecting me, anyway, its ok, your perogerative
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> tp43: what does being an admin relate to debugging ability?
[13:15] <IdleOne> !patience | tp43
[13:16] <tp43> oh, sorry, I thought I was on the php channel
[13:16] <Blinny> tp43: Here's as good a guide as any: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/installing-php5-and-apache-on-ubuntu/
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> tp43: the channel admins in here only ensure people stay on topic, nothing whatsoever to do with technical ability
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> tp43: no this is #ubuntu
[13:16] <IdleOne> tp43: you won't get much help in there with that attitude either.
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> +1
[13:16] <tp43> I know, I had an ubuntu question too
[13:16] <tp43> IdleOne, I know, they just messing with me
[13:17] <tjiggi_fo> I wonder why?
[13:17] <IdleOne> anyway, back to Ubuntu support.
[13:17] <Pici> Blinny: You may want to ask in #ubuntu-server, as your question is rather.. servery.
[13:17] <Blinny> Pici: Brilliant. Cheers.
[13:18] <tp43> I am gonna install xmail and see what happens
[13:18] <XEDDO> i'm experiencing 100% iowait during swapping, how can i prevent this?
[13:20] <usr13> XEDDO: What version of ubuntu do you have?
[13:20] <XEDDO> usr13: 11.04
[13:22] <usr13> I found some discussion about 100% iowait and while it's not all that current, it does seem to suggest some sort of solution
[13:22] <Kartagis> how can I chroot directories under /srv/www ?
[13:22] <usr13> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/410096
[13:22] <usr13> Kartagis: You usually just chroot the root directory
[13:22] <usr13> Kartagis: What is your end goal?
[13:23] <usr13> Kartagis: What is it you are really trying to do?
[13:23] <massimiliano> !list
[13:23] <massimiliano> salve
[13:23] <massimiliano> ho un problema con uno script di playonlinux
[13:24] <IdleOne> !it
[13:24] <XEDDO> usr13: sounds like my problem, although it doesnt only happen with firefox
[13:24] <Kartagis> usr13: prevent web users from cd into other directories
[13:25] <usr13> Kartagis: aaahhh.  Ok, here is what you should do.  Create users on the system for each.
[13:25] <bambanx>  i have python 2.6 on my system and i wanna install 2.7 , is necesary remove 2.6 version ?
[13:25] <massimiliano> I have a problem with a script for PlayOnLinux
[13:25] <Kartagis> usr13: yes I did
[13:26] <Pici> bambanx: no. You should not remove the version of python that your release come with, they can both be installed at the same time.
[13:26] <ChesterX> hi, i have been using skype on ubuntu for a while now, however i have run into a problem that I can't seem to solve => namely I can not use any combination to make special letter (e.g. e+´ = é etc...). Does anyone know why?
[13:26] <usr13> mkdir /home/user-name/www  for each and symlink www/ to /srv/www   (Apache follows symlinks by default).
[13:26] <vercingetorix> Hi, I'm trying to compile this gtk engine, when I am in the process of doing './configure --prefix/usr --enable-animation', it tells me it can't continue because there is no GTK. Specifically,"configure: error: GTK+-2.10 is required to compile aurora
[13:26] <vercingetorix> "
[13:26] <bambanx> how can i do that?
[13:27] <pimperle> hi
[13:27] <bambanx> Pici: thanks but how can i do that?
[13:27] <pimperle> i try to rebuild the dpkg source package
[13:27] <pimperle> however it looks, as if dpkg is a dependency for dpkg-source itself
[13:27] <usr13> Kartagis: So when the user gains access to the system, he only has access to /home/user-name  (which is all he needs).
[13:27] <pimperle> how can i break this circular dependency?
[13:27] <xangua> vercingetorix: sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-aurora
[13:27] <pimperle> ah, nevermind
[13:27] <Kartagis> usr13: /srv/www
[13:27] <pimperle> i'll think about it a bit more
[13:28] <vercingetorix> much obliged xangua, thanks!
[13:29] <Guest80288> hi gays
[13:29] <XEDDO> can i prevent ubuntu from swapping?
[13:29] <usr13> Kartagis: Example.  Fred wants a site on your server and let us call it fred-wisdom  so you creat symlink like so:
[13:29] <popey> XEDDO: you can disable swap, yes, why would you want to?
[13:29] <Jackneill> hi
[13:29] <Guest80288> we have problem
[13:29] <usr13> ln -s /home/fred/www /var/www/fred-wisdom
[13:29] <XEDDO> popey: iowait takes 100% cpu while swapping
[13:30] <popey> XEDDO: consume less ram ☺
[13:30] <vercingetorix> hmm, I still have the same problem at ./configure time xangua :(
[13:30] <XEDDO> popey: yeah but how :(
[13:30] <Kartagis> usr13: chroot works only for /home/ ?
[13:30] <xangua> vercingetorix: you now have aurora engine installed....
[13:30] <popey> XEDDO: whats eating your memory? use tools like top to find out?
[13:30] <Jackneill> i wanna setup a hobby server for me. i use lampp, but only sudo can access the /var/www folder. in gui i cant use sudo, how can i fix it?
[13:30] <vercingetorix> sometimes the coffee doesn't kick in in time xangua ;)
[13:31] <vercingetorix> sorry and thanks so much
[13:31] <Pici> bambanx: sudo apt-get install python2.7
[13:31] <usr13> Kartagis: So on the server you might see /srv/www/fred-wisdom & /srv/www/george-wisdom & /srv/www/frank-wisdom  etc.
[13:31] <XEDDO> popey: i only have 512mb ram and i dont see how i could reduce the use
[13:31] <popey> XEDDO: well, first thing is to see what's using it
[13:31] <xangua> vercingetorix: you need breackfast with coffe, coffe alone doesn't gives you energy ;)
[13:31] <pd11> ecs 3
[13:32] <yeats> XEDDO: you might consider trying a lighter *buntu (xubuntu or lubuntu)
[13:32] <usr13> Kartagis: Sorry that was a typo up there.  /var/www/fred-wisdom should have been /srv/www/fred-wisdom  But anyway, you get the point.  Right?
[13:32] <Kartagis> yes
[13:32] <XEDDO> popey: well firefox takes around 200mb and xorg 50mb
[13:32] <popey> XEDDO: maybe try chromium browser?
[13:32] <XEDDO> yeats: ill check it out thx
[13:33] <bambanx> Pici: for example i need python 2.7for work with django framework when i will create projects wich of both use ?
[13:33] <usr13> Kartagis: BTW, you might get more in-depth or detailed info from #ubuntu-server
[13:34] <Pici> bambanx: Thats probably a better question for #django, but your scripts' shebang line can specify which python version you want to use.
[13:35] <bambanx> Pici: ok thanks men
[13:35] <tp43> Ubuntu has mta system setup by default, it wasn't working for me because my gmail was putting it in spam
[13:36] <tenX> tp43: of course.
[13:36] <tp43> no one said anything like of course earlier
[13:36] <usr13> Kartagis: chroot is not something you need for this situation.  Having users access the system via normal means is best.
[13:37] <tp43> tenX, debian doesn't have it setup by default, you have to install and configure it, it is easy to do though
[13:37] <parapan> Hello boys and girls> quick one ...what will you choose for a laptop installation ?? ubuntu 10.04.03 LTS or 10.10 - last version ??? and what are the differences between those two ???
[13:38] <tp43> But I am just gonna use mailto so I don't have to code defense for spammers
[13:38] <tenX> tp43: your host is not "meant" to send mail from your addresses domain i'd guess. this will therefor mostly be categorized as spam
[13:38] <TimothyA> is there a way I can disable logging system-wide? and don't give me the "logs are important" speech. It's using up 90% of my harddisk
[13:38] <usr13> parapan: LTS is good for normal desktop use.  If you want unity, go for 11.04
[13:39] <tenX> tp43: probably you should use a smarthost
[13:39] <tp43> tenX, yeah, I just wanted it for testing, but I am going with mailto, I just wanted to know that I could have it setup if I wanted to
[13:39] <usr13> parapan: And yes, I recommend the point release which right now is 10.04.3
[13:39] <tenX> tp43: k sounded like you were wondering
[13:39] <parapan> usr13 > what unity means ???
[13:39] <alkafoo> tp43: 'cause it looked like you were... /leaning/
[13:40] <alkafoo> parapan: it's just a name, for a GNOME 3 shell/configuration
[13:40] <usr13> !unuty
[13:40] <usr13> !unity
[13:40] <Sidewinder1> parapan, I'm an LTS fan, but that's me; you can look here for some basic descriptions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29 If you haven't already.