[06:07] <roo_> dylan, the best tool for the job might not be one app: dont be afraid to try them all to see which one fits the job best.
[06:07] <hybrid> mplayer needs stuff from their site
[06:07] <Therx> hmm, ok, so i can switch to a non-X console. But how can i shut down X? i need to do stuff where it can't be running
[06:07] <roo_> tuxJr_14, ........ ur asking AFTER u tried it? what type did it start, and what did u change it to?
[06:08] <roo_> patrickj, FG rocks. im watching S4E10 now :)
[06:08] <dabaR> Therx: I was wondering the same thing.
[06:08] <patrickj> Therx, is it installed, type startx
[06:08] <tuxJr_14> roo_, i haven't done it yet. from 83 (linux) to fd (raid)
[06:08] <hybrid> Therx: you can shut X down with "sudo shutdown now" or ctrl alt bckspc if it dont work
[06:08] <tuxJr_14> roo_, will that cause any problems?
[06:08] <dylan> so why doesnt xine show up in my Applications menu?
[06:08] <ValheruLord>  /etc/network/interfaces is a file but when i wanna write to it
[06:08] <patrickj> roo_: high 5
[06:08] <ValheruLord> it says it is a directory
[06:09] <rwabel> I've a question, how can tell my system that f-spot isn't any more under /usr/local/bin but under /usr/bin
[06:09] <ValheruLord> why can that problem be ?
[06:09] <roo_> ValheruLord, then its not a file :)
[06:09] <patrickj> hey where Can i get the Tahoma font for Linux, or is it a commercial fnt?
[06:09] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: you need the snd-es18xx driver
[06:09] <Therx> hybrid: won't that shutdown the whole pc?
[06:09] <roo_> tuxJr_14, hmm never tried to raid tbh.. cant u backup the data first?
[06:09] <roo_> Therx, yes it will..
[06:09] <dabaR> Therx: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[06:09] <dabaR> try that.
[06:10] <Therx> k, cheers
[06:10] <roo_> patrickj, hmm, google for "corefonts" or "ms corefonts" or something.
[06:10] <tuxJr_14> roo_, the problem is that creating a raid takes hours!
[06:10] <Chris_Tucker> crimsun, thanks, i'll go find that
[06:10] <roo_> patrickj, i think u shud find them.
[06:10] <hybrid> sudo shutdown now shutsdown X
[06:10] <ValheruLord> roo_, cant i create a file same named also?
[06:10] <hybrid> sudo shutdown -h now shutsdown the computer
[06:10] <patrickj> i got the msttcorefonts but it wasnt in it
[06:10] <hybrid> sudo shutdown -r now reboots
[06:10] <patrickj> Georgia, Arial, Arial Black, Verdana etc. etc.
[06:10] <patrickj> no Tahoma :d
[06:11] <patrickj> its my Messenger font of choice...
[06:11] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: modinfo snd_es18xx
[06:11] <ValheruLord> patrickj, there is a way to install :))
[06:11] <roo_> patrickj, wtf. ive just noticed i dont even have tahmoa either :/
[06:11] <roo_> patrickj, damn!
[06:11] <ValheruLord> patrickj, pm me
[06:11] <roo_> ValheruLord, yes u can..
[06:12] <Chris_Tucker> ok crimsun, so that means i already have it, how do i configure it? it hasnt auto picked up this card
[06:12] <ValheruLord> roo_, how
[06:12] <roo_> ValheruLord, wait, no u cant.
[06:12] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: it won't automatically pick it up because it's ISA
[06:12] <ValheruLord> roo_, ?
[06:12] <roo_> ValheruLord, what is inside the interfaces dir?
[06:12] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: sudo modprobe snd_es18xx
[06:13] <Therx> dabaR: yeh that works
[06:13] <patrickj> hey guys whats the linux ditro?
[06:13] <roo_> patrickj, huh?
[06:13] <patrickj> hey guys whats the **best linux ditro?
[06:13] <patrickj> in a collective opinion
[06:13] <crimsun> that's not a good question.
[06:13] <roo_> patrickj, short answer: depends.
[06:13] <Chris_Tucker> crimsum, done, how do i tell my sound system to use this device?
[06:13] <roo_> patrickj, on what u want to achieve/how.
[06:13] <patrickj> for personal use and some webdesign
[06:13] <crimsun> Chris_Tucker: log out of gnome and back in
[06:13] <neighborlee> is it safe now to dist-upgrade and get a stable X ?
[06:14] <crimsun> neighborlee: no.
[06:14] <IFRFLYR> MTU question: how can i find out what MTU is set at now, before I start messing with it?
[06:14] <roo_> patrickj, try them all. Ubuntu is great, but so are many others.
[06:14] <dylan> how do i add an item to my applications menu?  or why doesnt xine show up in the menu?
[06:14] <crimsun> IFRFLYR: ifconfig, or ip a
[06:14] <IFRFLYR> grazie!
[06:14] <hybrid> patrickj: what do you wanna do?
[06:14] <patrickj> personal use and some webdesign
[06:14] <neighborlee> crimsun, any idea if it will be a few more days or a week or..just wondering as I really should update soon..i've got about 250 MB waiting LOL
[06:15] <crimsun> neighborlee: wait about a month.
[06:15] <hybrid> patrickj: ubuntu is userfriendly and customizable
[06:15] <patrickj> yes but I was wondering about other distrods
[06:15] <neighborlee> crimsun, well maybe its just best to install colony cd2 then
[06:15] <IFRFLYR> crimsun, so are MTU problems commonly cause by a setting which is higher or lower than default? Right now it's at 1500; I'm wondering if I shold experiment with 1400 or 1600 to see if certain websites (like google) come up better) r is this a "how long is a piece of sting" question?
[06:15] <hybrid> patrickj: about any will do
[06:15] <klaym> patrickj: for personal use and webdesign Ubuntu rocks
[06:16] <hybrid> patrickj: newbie?
[06:16] <crimsun> IFRFLYR: if you're on pppo[ae] , your mtu is going to be < 1500
[06:16] <patrickj> hybrid: sorta
[06:16] <hybrid> patrickj: mandravia suse and ubuntu are nice for newbies
[06:16] <crimsun> IFRFLYR: and 1600 doesn't make any sense
[06:16] <neighborlee> klaym, whats everyone using for webdesign in linux now...nvu ?
[06:16] <IFRFLYR> crimsun: no, connecting through a lan
[06:16] <hybrid> patrickj: do you like compiling or the command line?
[06:16] <patrickj> hybrid: I know how to install and decently configure slackware
[06:17] <patrickj> compiling and command like: yes
[06:17] <hybrid> patrickj: well cross out slackware and gentoo if command line is not one of you favs
[06:17] <klaym> neighborlee: I don't know. I'm not a webdesigner
[06:17] <hybrid> patrickj: like reading?
[06:17] <neighborlee> ok
[06:17] <patrickj> I do like command line lol
[06:17] <patrickj> yes
[06:17] <auk> neighborlee: i'm using a combo of emacs, bluefush, and Nvu
[06:17] <IFRFLYR> neighborlee: i use jedit for all web coding
[06:17] <neighborlee> auk, sweet bout same here ;-)
[06:17] <auk> i also have Screem installed
[06:17] <IFRFLYR> nice syntax highlighting for PHP and HTML
[06:17] <chaps0063> neighborlee: i use bluefish.
[06:17] <IFRFLYR> and free as the air
[06:17] <neighborlee> IFRFLYR, kewl yeah i've heard of it
[06:17] <neighborlee> chaps0063, ditto
[06:17] <hybrid> patrickj: gentoo is good kinda bloated but you need to read the handbook and use the comman line alot
[06:18] <IFRFLYR> PLUS it's java, so works on Windows and mac too, when you need to go to client's office
[06:18] <patrickj> well How long does it take to build a working gentoo system?
[06:18] <neighborlee> hybrid, yeah for what it does its kewl'ish I suppose but who has time for source installs ?LOL ( not I )
[06:18] <IFRFLYR> pluys xampp for a really easy apache-php-mywl-perl environment out of the box
[06:18] <neighborlee> jpatrickj: hours
[06:18] <hybrid> neighborlee: heh
[06:18] <hybrid> just giving options
[06:18] <neighborlee> patrickj, unless you have a real fast system even though its going totake a few hours
[06:18] <IFRFLYR> those two plus lftp command line ftp / sftp client and you're good to go
[06:18] <chaps0063> neighborlee: do you have any sites that are live?
[06:18] <neighborlee> hybrid, yup
[06:19] <neighborlee> chaps0063, yes
[06:19] <hybrid> imho anything gentoo and slack can do ubuntu can
[06:19] <patrickj> only a few hours?
[06:19] <yccheok> anyone of u encounter problem in firefox, when u click on a link where link to a file, (torrent or zip....), nothing happen. but when u click on IE, it prompt u to save the file :(
[06:19] <neighborlee> chaps0063, sure do .andemade with nvu..
[06:19] <patrickj> i thought it was a couple days!?!?!
[06:19] <neighborlee> chaps0063, http://www.heartseed.org
[06:19] <Chris_Tucker> crimsun, Many many thanks, you seem to be a GREAT help around here
[06:19] <auk> patrickj: gentoo is //hard// to install
[06:19] <hybrid> patrickj: well stage 1 2 or 3
[06:19] <roo_> gentoo has the best installation docs ive ever read.
[06:19] <hybrid> 3 no time
[06:19] <patrickj> well that what the manual is for I guess
[06:19] <hybrid> 2 couple hours
[06:19] <hybrid> 1 prolly days
[06:19] <roo_> yes its hard*er* than Ubuntu, but the gentoo installation is by no means imposs.
[06:19] <patrickj> what is install stage 2
[06:19] <patrickj> and 1?
[06:20] <auk> i tried...and i failed miserably
[06:20] <patrickj> well ive install LFS before
[06:20] <auk> roo_: i didn't say it was imopssible
[06:20] <neighborlee> patrickj, frankly I rec commend 'vidalinux'
[06:20] <roo_> auk, thats nice. i didnt say u said that either.
[06:20] <hybrid> patrickj: satge 1 has very lil 2 some 3 good bit of pkgs
[06:20] <roo_> patrickj, is there a reason why u cant/wont use Ubuntu?
[06:20] <neighborlee> patrickj, got very high scores from reviewers and its a real easy setup into gentoo
[06:21] <patrickj> well Im just wondering about gentoo
[06:21] <patrickj> ive heard ALOT about it :D
[06:21] <neighborlee> patrickj, you dont need to spend HOURS compiling ( youlll get a i686 system anyway) and can get the rest via soruce IF you wish )
[06:21] <auk> oh, i thought what you said was directed at me
[06:21] <hybrid> patrickj: if you have time and like tweaking
[06:21] <dabaR> must get food...
[06:21] <auk> :)
[06:21] <neighborlee> patrickj, OR if you rather ....do it  regular way BUT choose stage3/GRP
[06:21] <roo_> auk, nope :)
[06:21] <hybrid> although 2005.0 has been dissed for tweakers
[06:22] <neighborlee> patrickj, my opinions...you can also choose to do it long compile way IF you have relatively fast system &/or alot of spare time <G>
[06:22] <patrickj> 2.4 GHz
[06:22] <patrickj> 768 MB ram
[06:22] <nubbe> how do I get manually installed packages to show up in synaptic?
[06:22] <neighborlee> patrickj, bout same here
[06:22] <chaps0063> how easy was jedit to install?
[06:22] <neighborlee> patrickj, you'll need several hours then as I did
[06:22] <nubbe> neither java nor azureus is there...
[06:22] <hybrid> apt and compiling
[06:22] <hybrid> nubbe: add repos
[06:23] <neighborlee> patrickj, unless you do the stage3/GRP route then not as many hours ;-)..or if you go  vida linux you can get it in like 45 minutes
[06:23] <hybrid> nubbe: may need to get azuerus deb
[06:23] <patrickj> what is vidalinux, and is it any good?
[06:23] <nubbe> I mean already installed packages
[06:23] <hybrid> nubbe: ?
[06:24] <patrickj> OMG, how dumb, they ,ake it look like Windows **Vista**
[06:24] <nubbe> hybrid, I got both java and azureus installed, works fine, but I can't find them in synaptic
[06:25] <patrickj> once java is installed
[06:25] <cikilin> hello
[06:25] <patrickj> apt-get install azureus
[06:25] <hybrid> nubbe: b/c you didnt get them from synaptic. did you?
[06:25] <cikilin> how i burn an img on ubuntu ?
[06:25] <nubbe> hybrid, nope, right
[06:25] <hybrid> cikilin: i would try graveman
[06:25] <cikilin> graveman?
[06:25] <patrickj> is there something to install .ttf files as fonts in linux?
[06:26] <hybrid> nubbe: how the hell you get java from synaptic?
[06:26] <yonil> you know the bug when firefox says im using a profile which i aint (since i killed it), i forgot how to solve it (to delete some file)
[06:26] <patrickj> because I got a crapload of Windows fonts on my windows partition :p
[06:26] <nubbe> hybrid, it's in backports
[06:26] <hybrid> cikilin: it is a burner program
[06:26] <Raptoid> ./boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly
[06:26] <Raptoid> ?
[06:26] <Raptoid> help me
[06:26] <hybrid> nubbe: oka
[06:26] <hybrid> y
[06:26] <Raptoid> grub-install /dev/hda -->
[06:26] <Raptoid> ./boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly
[06:26] <cikilin> ok
[06:26] <patrickj> when ubuntu 5.05 coming out, and when it does is it possible to upgrade without overwriting install?
[06:26] <cikilin> i'll install it
[06:26] <hybrid> nubbe: can you see anything else in backports thru synaptic
[06:27] <mgcross> k...just did a fesh install....how do I get my debian menu back?
[06:27] <hybrid> cikilin: not forsure if it does imgs but i think so
[06:27] <Belial> hi all
[06:27] <cikilin> ok kybrid
[06:27] <patrickj> hey, how can I configure root-tail?
[06:27] <nubbe> hybrid, I can see all backports packages, I think
[06:27] <b093L> hi all
[06:28] <hybrid> nubbe: except java?
[06:28] <cikilin> the firmware of my harddisk how i ll update hybrid?
[06:28] <nubbe> hybrid, but I need help to figure out how to get rid of the manually installed java
[06:28] <hybrid> cikilin: i dont understand
[06:28] <Belial> hm i have a little question. If i want to go trought a Windows PC in the Internet with my ubuntu PC i have to activate ICS is that correct ????
[06:28] <patrickj> where are the Eterm lofs?
[06:29] <hybrid> nubbe: dpkg -r <java pkg>
[06:29] <mgcross> any help...tied of the Ubuntu menu now showing all apps
[06:29] <nubbe> hybrid, yes, how do I igure out what <java pkg> ACTUALLY is?
[06:29] <Belial>  hm i have a little question. If i want to go trought a Windows PC in the Internet with my ubuntu PC i have to activate ICS is that correct ????
[06:29] <Belial> sry for my poor english
[06:30] <hybrid> nubbe: what was it when you dpkg -i <pkg>
[06:30] <patrickj> hey u know desktop syuff like torsmo, is there anything else like that?
[06:30] <nubbe> hybrid, If I remembered that, I wouldn't be here now,
[06:30] <Elrohir> what are the minimum hardware requirments for Hoary?
[06:30] <nubbe> java version "1.5.0_02"
[06:30] <hybrid> nubbe: lol
[06:30] <Raptoid> grub-install /dev/hda -->
[06:30] <Raptoid> ./boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly
[06:30] <Raptoid> helpppppppppppp
[06:30] <Raptoid> helpppppppppppp
[06:30] <Raptoid> helpppppppppppp
[06:30] <hybrid> nubbe: try grep | java
[06:31] <hybrid> Raptoid: pls dont floos
[06:31] <hybrid> **flood
[06:31] <aksn> which is the correct runlevel on ubuntu to go single user?
[06:31] <Raptoid> :)
[06:31] <Raptoid> ok
[06:31] <Raptoid> man
[06:31] <Raptoid> sorry
[06:31] <Raptoid> help me
[06:31] <nubbe> hybrid, grep what?
[06:31] <mgcross> any help?
[06:31] <patrickj> Elrohir: 32 MB Ram, with at least 350 MB HDD Space(1.8 G reccomended for typical install)
[06:31] <hybrid> nubbe: grep | java
[06:31] <Elrohir> thanx!
[06:32] <patrickj> atleast for the x86 version!
[06:32] <patrickj> your welcome
[06:32] <Belial> someone who konws abbout windows and ubuntu connection ???
[06:32] <patrickj> yay my second question answered
[06:32] <Elrohir> btw, processor?
[06:32] <Elrohir> speed I mean...
[06:32] <patrickj> at least x86
[06:32] <patrickj> 500 MHz im guessing
[06:32] <cikilin> i cant burn hybrid
[06:32] <patrickj> wut do you have?
[06:32] <hybrid> Belial: networked boes?
[06:32] <cikilin> any ideea?
[06:32] <patrickj> Elrohir: ?
[06:32] <Elrohir> ;) thanx once again!
[06:32] <hybrid> cikilin: err
[06:32] <patrickj> Elrohir: what kind of processor do you have/speed?
[06:33] <hybrid> cikilin: is it set for the right drive? is it recognized?
[06:33] <cikilin> i cant add data files
[06:33] <cikilin> yeap
[06:33] <Elrohir> Pentium III 1.10 GHz... I'm already using Ubuntu... is just a paperwork I'm doing about it...
[06:33] <hybrid> cikilin: can you add audio files
[06:33] <Elrohir> :)
[06:33] <nubbe> hybrid, that only gives me the java -help (as I thought)
[06:33] <patrickj> lol ok
[06:34] <patrickj> im running it very well and i have 768 MB ram, and a 2.4 GHz Celeron D, and a 408M what file
[06:34] <patrickj> im running it very well and i have 768 MB ram, and a 2.4 GHz Celeron D, and a 408M swap partition**
[06:34] <patrickj> brb
[06:34] <hybrid> brb
[06:34] <Elrohir> nice..
[06:34] <cikilin> yes
[06:34] <cikilin> i can add audio files
[06:35] <Elrohir> Pentium III 1.10, 512 RAM, 40 GB HDD...
[06:35] <aksn> which is the correct runlevel on ubuntu to go single user?
[06:36] <Elrohir> runlevel 2 I guess...
[06:36] <mgcross> o well...I'll hit the forums again, I guess
[06:36] <mgcross> runlevel 1
[06:36] <Elrohir> oh... close.. :P lol...
[06:37] <aksn> the runlevels in ubuntu are the same as in debian?
[06:37] <Kejk_PL> aksn: yes
[06:37] <cikilin> hybrid if i change form img to iso can it work?
[06:37] <aksn> oks, thanks :)
[06:38] <Kejk_PL> aksn: probably init 1
[06:38] <Kejk_PL> aksn: it is single user mode
[06:39] <aksn> Kejk_PL-> yes, in debian it is, but something strange happenned..
[06:39] <aksn> xorg is stable in hoary?
[06:40] <hybrid> yea
[06:40] <Kejk_PL> aksn: what strange? I'm using Kubuntu for short time, I'v never tester init levels  in K/Ubuntu :P
[06:40] <cikilin> i am doing that
[06:40] <cikilin> is a concert
[06:40] <Derkommissar> Hello
[06:40] <cikilin> i hope will work
[06:41] <Elrohir> supported architectures? x86, PowerPC and which is the third?
[06:41] <aksn> Kejk_PL-> after installing ubuntu i had many I/O erros, and couldnt go single user to compile a kernel, i had to use a live
[06:42] <aksn> all this because the kernel on the cd gave me a crc error :S
[06:42] <hybrid> Elrohir: sparc?
[06:42] <Kejk_PL> Elrohir: x64
[06:43] <Kejk_PL> aksn: aha
[06:45] <Sputn1k> when i tryng to fix broken packages i getting this: http://www.inferno.tinklapiai.lt/problem1.png
[06:48] <typo> A very recent X update in breezy limits me to 640x480 resolution. I know breezy's X is broken, but maybe this bug hasn't been reported yet. I've checked the BTS. Anyone interested?
[06:48] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: try sudo apt-get -f install
[06:48] <Sputn1k> Kejk_PL  doesnt wroks
[06:49] <Rubin> could someone send me their working totem_config file with esound?  Somehow mines stuck or arts and wont stay open to be reconfigured :(
[06:49] <x_o1> Does anyone use a treo with Ubuntu and has been able to transfer MP3, either using jPilot or gnome pilot, or even pilot-xfer by hand?  I cannot figure out how to store MP3 files onto my device.
[06:50] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: what message?
[06:51] <Kejk_PL> what sudo apt-get -f install says?
[06:51] <Sputn1k> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[06:52] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: have you tried aptitude program?
[06:53] <Sputn1k> Kejk_PL: hmm no
[06:53] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: it is console application but easy to use and sometimes helps in such situations
[06:54] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: What have you been installing that makes that problem?
[06:54] <Sputn1k> it works, but i dont know wich packagse are broken
[06:54] <Sputn1k> i dont remember
[06:55] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: hard to say...
[06:55] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: I try to find a way
[06:57] <Kejk_PL> turn on aptitude, you will see two sections: installed and not installed software
[06:57] <Elrohir> where can I find info about shorewall?
[06:58] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: on section installed pres + (plus), on section non-installed press _ (underline) and then pres 'g'
[06:58] <Sputn1k> Kejk_PL, it allrgiht, i founed broken packagse
[06:58] <Sputn1k> packages
[06:58] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: good :)
[06:58] <Sputn1k> yeah
[06:58] <Sputn1k> ;]
[06:58] <Kejk_PL> what was wrong?
[06:59] <levander> Anybody getting faster than ~4x audio ripping in grip with full paranoia, or is that actually pretty good?
[06:59] <Sputn1k> Kejk_PL: cpp-3.3, gcc 3.3, language-support-en, libc6-dev, libc6-i686, glibc-2.3.2.ds1-20ubuntu13
[07:00] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: essential packages - they should always work :/
[07:00] <Elrohir> where can I find info about shorewall?
[07:00] <typo> X says "(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1024x768" (no mode of this name)" although it lists serveral 1024x768 modes. Anyone know what that's about?
[07:00] <_otep> hat do i do if i only have 70K free on my "/" partition w/c has only 235 MB allocated to it
[07:01] <Sputn1k> Kejk_PL, so what should i do? I can't remove them?
[07:01] <matthew_> hey, where is the sources.list file located?
[07:01] <desrt> matthew_; /etc/apt/
[07:01] <matthew_> thankyou
[07:01] <cartman> daniels: ping ?
[07:01] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: some of them you can, but glibc sure NOT
[07:02] <Sputn1k> i try to reinstall it
[07:02] <Kejk_PL> try to reinstall them
[07:02] <Kejk_PL> in aptitude press 'L' (upper l) on them
[07:03] <Kejk_PL> matthew_: /etc/apt/
[07:04] <matthew_> how do i add debian-marillat repository to my Ubuntu sources.list?
[07:04] <desrt> matthew_; you don't
[07:05] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: try to fix it in aptitude, as I said use "L" (reinstall action), "+" (install) and "_" (delete and pure/clean), ":" - undo, "=" - hold
[07:05] <matthew_> But i want to download mplayer
[07:05] <lpk> I need a webcam that works in Ubuntu
[07:05] <lpk> Suggestions?
[07:05] <desrt> matthew_; marillat has diverged from ubuntu far enough that installing stuff from it is a good way to screw up your system
[07:05] <desrt> matthew_; almost the only thing that is safe is w32codecs
[07:05] <matthew_> Could i compile mplayer from source?
[07:05] <desrt> matthew_; i do recommend you install totem-xine and w32codecs
[07:06] <desrt> unless you have a specific reason for wanting mplayer
[07:06] <patrickj> You know the stuff on your desktop like torsmo?
[07:06] <Elrohir> where can I find those codecs?
[07:06] <Kejk_PL> desrt: I'am using marillat - but I had to install some stuff from sarge and to change VERSION in some /var/lib/dpkg/* files :P
[07:06] <Elrohir> w32codecs...
[07:06] <matthew_> ok thanks for your help
[07:06] <Kejk_PL> desrt:pretty easy to srew system :)s
[07:06] <matthew_> !google w32codecs
[07:06] <desrt> Kejk_PL; :)
[07:06] <ubotu> I don't know, matthew_
[07:06] <Elrohir> ok...
[07:06] <desrt> matthew_; they're in the marillat repository
[07:06] <Yendor> Good $LOCALTIME, all.  I'm having a problem running any Java programs; am getting an error of " current locale is not supported in X11, locale is set to CX locale modifiers are not supported"...Any ideas on how to fix this?
[07:06] <patrickj> what other stuff i there like that?
[07:06] <desrt> matthew_; best to use ftp to download them and install manually
[07:06] <desrt> matthew_; let me locate the url for you
[07:06] <matthew_> install what?
[07:07] <patrickj> is Devil-linux any good....?
[07:07] <desrt> ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[07:07] <hybrid> patrickj: it is  a firewall
[07:07] <Kejk_PL> desrt: problem was always with libc6 - from sarge is too different - kernel doesn't work, but I can;t alway force packages to install - changing in avaiable, status etc files is good way :0
[07:08] <desrt> matthew_; download that file and run 'sudo dpkg -i w32codecs....'
[07:08] <patrickj> hey do you think If I started right now installing gentoo in Windows under VMWare I would finish by tonight, and its 1 o clock PM here
[07:08] <matthew_> ok thankyou
[07:08] <desrt> Kejk_PL; i'd rather just avoid it entirely
[07:08] <matthew_> then will xmms be able to play mp3s?
[07:08] <Yendor> I've googled and found lots of messages about people getting this error with Java on multiple flavors of Linux, and multiple different Java flavors (Sun, IBM, Blackdown)...But never any answers.
[07:08] <desrt> matthew_; er.  you have to install another thing for that
[07:08] <mmoscosa> can anyone tell me where to find a walkthrough on how to install software in ubuntu, such as skype
[07:08] <desrt> matthew_; do you have universe and multiverse setup?
[07:08] <matthew_> no, i just installed ubuntu
[07:09] <Kejk_PL> desrt: I really nedd newer mplayer AND Polish communicator - Kadu - it is very popular, and DEB are only for Sarge
[07:09] <desrt> ok.  you need to setup universe/multiverse in your sources.list
[07:09] <Sputn1k> Kejk_PL, but when i mark package to fix it, it gonna remove not only borken packages, but lots of other packages
[07:09] <Kejk_PL> no, I can't compie it itself :P
[07:09] <punkrockguy318> I'm having a problem, I cannot eject my Audio CD.  When i eject it from nautilus, I get this error: eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument
[07:09] <desrt> the problem is that all of this stuff for playing videos or even mp3s is patented/copyrighted so ubuntu can't legally distribute it in the main distribution
[07:09] <Despeeh> unmount it?
[07:09] <Yendor> punkrockguy318, What's it say when you type "eject" at commandline?
[07:09] <patrickj> ?
[07:09] <punkrockguy318> Yendor, the same thin
[07:09] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: whole system depend on glibc :)
[07:10] <cartman> anyone knows what happened to "xmkmf" in latest breezy ?
[07:10] <Yendor> punkrockguy318, Try "umount /dev/here"
[07:10] <Sputn1k> ://
[07:10] <Yendor> punkrockguy318, Then "eject"
[07:10] <desrt> matthew_; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePackages?highlight=%28universe%29
[07:10] <desrt> matthew_; will tell you how to setup universe
[07:10] <Yendor> punkrockguy318, Of course, replace with your real device name...
[07:10] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: to reinstall glibc
[07:11] <patrickj> ?
[07:11] <punkrockguy318> Yendor, I get the same error... umount claims the device is not mounted because it's an audio cd
[07:11] <mmoscosa> How do you install skype, the instructions on skype official paga didnt work neither those in ubuntu unnoficial guide that i saw on tje forums
[07:11] <nubbe> I have installed java (build 1.5.0_02-b09) with apt-get install (followed ubuntuguide) a good while back. The problem is that I can't find it with synaptic or aptitude. It is there and works fine, why doesn't it show up in synaptic? I'd like to uninstall so I get no upgrade problems, but how do I find it?
[07:12] <Yendor> mmoscosa, There's a skype .deb out there somewhere.
[07:12] <Kejk_PL> Sputn1k: what sudo apt-get check  say?
[07:12] <punkrockguy318> Yendor, ah! I found a solution, it's just not a good one
[07:12] <patrickj> guess ill just try
[07:12] <punkrockguy318> Yendor, I did sudo eject -s
[07:12] <Kejk_PL> mmoscosa: on skype.com is DEB :)
[07:12] <Elrohir> besides GNOME and KDE, can any other GUI can be installed?
[07:12] <Despeeh> locate java?
[07:13] <mmoscosa> is there a way to do it from the terminal?!!?
[07:13] <patrickj> yes
[07:13] <amel> where can i find the servername variable?
[07:13] <patrickj> Elrohir: yes very much
[07:13] <amel> it doesn't appear to be inside httpd.conf
[07:14] <Kejk_PL> mmoscosa: download .deb, then:   sudo dpkg -i skype*.deb
[07:14] <Yendor> Anyone else getting "locale is set to CX" messages when trying to run Java programs?  More importantly, anyone know how to fix then?
[07:14] <Elrohir> any or specific ones?
[07:14] <Yendor> *them?
[07:14] <punkrockguy318> Yendor, why do I need root priviliges to eject my cd?
[07:14] <amel> or is there any other file, where i can configure the servername?
[07:14] <amel> for apache2
[07:14] <nubbe> Despeeh, that gives a lot but not the pkg name, I think
[07:14] <patrickj> Elrohir: Im currently using Openbox, but with gnome, but Once you install openbox you can choose to use FBPanel, or fspanel etc. with it, and in the GDM click Senssion and slect oopenbox of flux box(whichever WM you prefer) and go from there ;)
[07:15] <Yendor> punkrockguy318, Perhaps because your user is not in the "cdrom" group (or whatever group owns your CD-ROM device)?
[07:15] <Elrohir> nice.. thanx..
[07:15] <punkrockguy318> Yendor, nope, I am a member of cdrom
[07:15] <patrickj> sorry if I didnt rexplain it to much
[07:15] <punkrockguy318> Yendor, and cdrom owns my device
[07:15] <amel> does anyone here use apache2?
[07:15] <Elrohir> it will do... :P
[07:15] <Yendor> punkrockguy318, Dunno
[07:15] <patrickj> Elrohir: to install fluxbox do: apt-get install fluxbox, and for openbox: apt-get install openbox
[07:16] <patrickj> here: openbox howto for Ubuntu
[07:16] <patrickj> Elrohir: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34239&highlight=openbox+howto
[07:16] <mmoscosa> ok, i think its working... thanks a lot... i dunno why it didnt worked last time i tried...
[07:16] <vader1102> well: time for me to get back to work, later folks.
[07:16] <Elrohir> i'll check it out....
[07:17] <patrickj> Elrohir: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28Add%29%7C%28Repositories%29
[07:17] <patrickj> how do add repositories :p
[07:17] <amel> anyone have a clue?
[07:17] <patrickj> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories, JIC
[07:18] <thenuke> patrickj: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?highlight=%28Add%29%7C%28Repositories%29
[07:18] <patrickj> thenuke: I know
[07:18] <thenuke> patrickj: oh. you were teaching somebody instead of asking :)
[07:18] <patrickj> lol
[07:18] <amel> oh god.. so this means, noone here has a web server?!
[07:18] <patrickj> I do
[07:18] <thenuke> amel: ?
[07:18] <amel> apache2?
[07:19] <patrickj> but its jnot a *nix system unfortanatly
[07:19] <Yendor> amel: Not on apache2.  Just apache1.
[07:19] <thenuke> I have one
[07:19] <amel> with the apache2 system?
[07:19] <thenuke> servername.. where does that appear ten?
[07:19] <patrickj> mines running on Windows Server 2003, but I was thinking of buying a *nix systems :d
[07:19] <thenuke> ten=then
[07:19] <thenuke> yeah, apache2
[07:19] <mikul> how do I chose which program to start a certain type of file
[07:19] <amel> where is the damn servername, then?
[07:19] <thenuke> I did not have to edit any configs in apache2
[07:19] <thenuke> what do you mean by servername =)
[07:19] <amel> well.. in apache
[07:20] <amel> you had to edit a servername variable
[07:20] <mikul> I use ubuntu/gnome
[07:20] <Yendor> Anyone?  "locale set to CX" while running Java programs?
[07:20] <amel> in order to direct your server to a particular hostname
[07:20] <patrickj> man gentoo looks friggen AWESOME
[07:21] <thenuke> amel: read the docs alreay?
[07:21] <patrickj> is anyone in here using Gentoo right now?
[07:21] <amel> i doubt, you can see a web server: http://0x5551307c.adsl.cybercity.dk
[07:21] <patrickj> For some weird reason :d
[07:21] <amel> or can you?
[07:21] <IFRFLYR> patrickj yes I am
[07:21] <IFRFLYR> wat up?
[07:22] <thenuke> amel: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/core.html
[07:22] <thenuke> amel: search that for servername
[07:22] <amel> could you see anything?
[07:22] <IFRFLYR> I mean, I write from my ubuntu box but the gentoo machine is always running
[07:22] <thenuke> amel "The ServerName directive sets the hostname and port that the server uses to identify itself. "
[07:22] <amel> yes..
[07:22] <thenuke> "ServerName www.example.com:80"
[07:22] <mikul> how do I chose which program to start a certain type of file ubuntu/gnome
[07:22] <thenuke> that should work then I guess
[07:22] <amel> but where is it?
[07:23] <thenuke> well, I dont know where all those directives are?
[07:23] <gijosh> I downloaded a .run file for the ut2k4 demo.  How do I...er  run a run file? heh.
[07:23] <thenuke> httpd.conf?
[07:23] <thenuke> add it into there
[07:23] <amel> ok
[07:23] <craigevil> why does it say Firefox is broken? The version in backports-staging works just fine
[07:23] <Kejk_PL> hey, where is packages.ubuntu.com ? :))
[07:23] <Crembo> hello! I'm a complete linux newbie. I've just installed Ubuntu and I'm trying to get 3D acceleration to work (radeon9800 pro). I've tried searching the documentation and wiki - but all I found on installing the ATI drivers was a page in Italian. can you point me to any source of instruction?
[07:24] <thenuke> amel: that is if the directives are in it :) I dont know really. but I bet that there are not every option already with some kind of default value
[07:24] <desrt> Crembo; basically, you need to apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[07:24] <uber_newber> hey all i need sum help installingmy lynksis wireless usb network adapter, i gotta toshiba tecra 8000 2 proc
[07:24] <desrt> Crembo; then edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change Driver   "ati"  to "fglrx"
[07:24] <uber_newber> and i have a driver caleed ndiswrapper but dunno what to do with it
[07:24] <Crembo> desrt: could it be that that's really all I need?
[07:24] <desrt> Crembo; pretty much
[07:24] <Crembo> isn't that convienient.
[07:25] <Crembo> and here I was thinking I had to grab something from www.ati.com, do various non-intuitive operations on it and then fix it up by moving files and editing inis
[07:25] <desrt> Crembo; well.. you have to do some editing still :)
[07:25] <Crembo> eh, hell with it. real men edit INIs.
[07:25] <desrt> we don't have ini files on linux.  it's all about .conf
[07:25] <Crembo> one more question: how do I shut down/restart the x server?
[07:25] <uber_newber> hey all i need sum help installingmy lynksis wireless usb network adapter, i gotta toshiba tecra 8000 2 proc.im running ubuntu 5.4 and i have a driver ndiswrapper ubt dont know how to use it to install my wireless usb network adapter
[07:25] <desrt> real real  men edit .conf's.... and they use vi.
[07:26] <Crembo> ... if the "X Server" is the graphics system. not sure if I got it right.
[07:26] <desrt> Crembo; to shut it down (rapidly): sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:26] <desrt> to bring it back: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[07:26] <phixion> ctrl alt backspace
[07:26] <Yendor> Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is your friend.
[07:26] <uber_newber> can sum1 help me out please
[07:26] <Crembo> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop the english are coming stop prepare our defences stop
[07:26] <desrt> and yes... ctrl-alt-backspace will restart X very rapidly :)
[07:26] <AlexMBas> pid and ps is freezing .. does anyone experienced this on the latest packages?
[07:27] <desrt> Crembo; at least it's not morse code
[07:27] <Crembo> so, I change /etc/X11/xorg.conf to point to the fglrx drivers and ctrl-alt-backspace?
[07:28] <desrt> Crembo; first make sure fglrx driver is loaded
[07:28] <Crembo> now ya got me.
[07:28] <desrt> (should be automatically, if you have a 9800)
[07:28] <desrt> lsmod | grep fglrx
[07:28] <Crembo> that's a no, there.
[07:28] <desrt> uh oh.
[07:28] <desrt> sudo modprobe fglrx
[07:28] <uber_newber> hey all i need sum help installingmy lynksis wireless usb network adapter, i gotta toshiba tecra 8000 2 proc.im running ubuntu 5.4 and i have a driver ndiswrapper ubt dont know how to use it to install my wireless usb network adapter
[07:28] <uber_newber> brb
[07:29] <Crembo> well, that fixed it.
[07:29] <Crembo> still has a 0 at the end.
[07:29] <desrt> Crembo; k.  i got some good news
[07:29] <raven3x7> anyone know what library is necessary to decompress .Z files?
[07:29] <desrt> Crembo; more config file editing is in your future
[07:29] <desrt> Crembo; edit /etc/modules and put "fglrx" in there
[07:29] <desrt> so that it loads at startup from now on
[07:29] <Crembo> oh BOY! ah well, what better way to get in touch with the innards of a brand new system I have to learn than by messing up.
[07:30] <hmrocha> i don't understand, my X keeps crashing when I user firefox to access some sites
[07:30] <Crembo> should I be concerned if fglrx shows 0 in the 'used by' column?
[07:30] <desrt> no.  that's  expected
[07:30] <desrt> you're not actually using it yet
[07:30] <desrt> try giving your X server a restart now
[07:31] <Jason-X> When I unmount my external Lacie HD from the desktop it sounds like the hardrive is still spinning and still mounted. Is it safe to switch it off or will this damage the data on the drive
[07:31] <Yendor> raven3x7, Try "uncompress"
[07:31] <Crembo> /etc/X11/xorg.conf - changed to fglrx..
[07:31] <chombee> Hello - anyone here compiled this tag-editor Cowbell on Ubuntu? I can't get it to configure, it's complaining it can't find perl
[07:31] <chombee> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool
[07:31] <Yendor> chombee, Is perl installed?
[07:32] <desrt> Crembo; and you installed the xorg-driver-fglrx package?
[07:32] <Crembo> yep. or I think it should have gotten installed
[07:32] <chombee> yeah, the package 'perl' and various others, but I guess that's not exactly what it's looking for
[07:32] <Yendor> chombee, Is libxml-parser-perl installed?
[07:33] <Crembo> right. let's give this thing a reset. see if I trashed my computer or not.
[07:33] <Yendor> chombee, For Perl packages, they're generally found under "lib<first>-<second>-perl" via apt-get
[07:33] <Yendor> chombee, So XML::Parser is libxml-parser-perl
[07:33] <chombee> possibly not - I'm installing intltool now (I already had intltool-debian), and I thinl that parser is one of its dependencies
[07:34] <chombee> Yendor - I see, intltool installed that package, now I get past that point, but I need to install a C compiler...
[07:35] <raven3x7> Yendor, trying to open it with file roller gives me archive type not supported
[07:35] <Ackdom> hey
[07:35] <Crembo> well, whaddya know. I can see the screen. that's a good starting point.
[07:35] <Harold> I'm having a slow brain morning...can anyone remind me what package will allow me to view a .mov?
[07:35] <Crembo> checking a 3D-intensive screensaver... excellent.
[07:35] <desrt> Crembo; open a term and type "glxinfo | grep irect"
[07:36] <Crembo> attempting to bring screen resolution down from 324234237x13123123 pixels at 3Hz..
[07:36] <Crembo> failure?
[07:36] <Yendor> raven3x7, Do you have the "gzip" package installed?
[07:36] <Yendor> chombee, So...Install a C compiler?
[07:36] <Crembo> desrt: that's a yes on the glxinfo
[07:36] <desrt> Crembo; most excellent
[07:36] <desrt> Crembo; now install doom3 already
[07:36] <raven3x7> Yendor, yes
[07:37] <{Seb}> does anyone know why i am banned from #ubuntu-devel
[07:37] <chombee> Yendor - yeah, now I need C-bindings for libtag, installing those. Man, compiling stuff really adds a lot of random packages to the system. Oh well
[07:37] <desrt> {Seb}; were you asking for help there?
[07:37] <Crembo> "The X server does not support the XRandR extension blah blah blah you can't change resolution without restarting the X server HAHAHAHAHA".
[07:37] <Yendor> raven3x7, Can you "uncompress <your-file-name>.Z" from command line?
[07:37] <Harold> Does Doom 3 actually work on Linux?
[07:37] <desrt> Harold; beautifully
[07:37] <desrt> Crembo; hah.  welcome to fglrx.
[07:37] <{Seb}> desrt: not that i recall
[07:37] <Crembo> desrt: so, where's the .conf file with resolution and stuff?
[07:37] <Harold> desrt, Wow, didn't know that.
[07:37] <desrt> Crembo; it doesn't support all of these 'fancy' X extensions :P
[07:37] <desrt> Crembo; it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf too
[07:37] <Harold> desrt, Is this a new development?
[07:37] <desrt> Harold; no...
[07:37] <Crembo> wow.
[07:38] <Crembo> all this installing of drivers and stuff is making me hungry. ask you stuff later!
[07:38] <Yendor> chombee, Yes, compiling stuff *does* add lots of random stuff to your computer.
[07:38] <desrt> Crembo; you have something like
[07:38] <desrt>         DefaultDepth    24
[07:38] <Harold> desrt, I remember hearing that the Doom 3 developers were planning to make Doom 3 for Linux...
[07:38] <desrt> Crembo; it's just a matter of going into the display section with the right depth and changing the list of resolutions
[07:38] <desrt> Harold; it came out almost right away
[07:38] <Harold> desrt, Do you know which package will play .mov?
[07:39] <desrt> Harold; install totem-xine and w32codecs
[07:39] <Harold> desrt, Thank you.
[07:39] <desrt> w32codecs is here: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[07:39] <raven3x7> Yendor, hmm that turned it into a tar
[07:39] <AlexMBas> and to play real video midia?
[07:39] <desrt> AlexMBas; http://www.real.com/
[07:39] <AlexMBas> w32codecs also
[07:40] <AlexMBas> but does it play inside totem?
[07:40] <desrt> AlexMBas; i don't think so :/
[07:40] <Yendor> raven3x7, tar -tvf <your file>.tar -- that should get you a listing of files inside your tarfile.
[07:40] <chombee> Yendor - it works! thanks
[07:40] <Yendor> chombee, np.  :)
[07:40] <AlexMBas> desrt: ok, thanks
[07:40] <raven3x7> desrt why not the package from extras?
[07:40] <desrt> raven3x7; oh.  i didn't know about that.
[07:40] <desrt> AlexMBas; what raven said :)
[07:40] <Yendor> raven3x7, If that's what you're looking for, then "tar -xvf" it.
[07:41] <desrt> AlexMBas; check out backports at http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[07:41] <desrt> raven3x7; what's the package called?
[07:41] <desrt> oh.  'realplayer'.  what an odd name for it.
[07:41] <raven3x7> Yendor, yeah actually i knew that. the result of uncompressin z seemed a bit weird to but i guess in unix they didnt write .tar.Z thanks
[07:42] <raven3x7> desrt w32codecs as well
[07:42] <desrt> raven3x7; for real??  freakin' awesome!
[07:42] <Yendor> raven3x7, :)
[07:42] <desrt> wow.  you just totally made my day
[07:42] <desrt> thanks :)
[07:43] <desrt> bye bye marillat :)
[07:43] <uber_newber> hey all i need sum help installingmy lynksis wireless usb network adapter, i gotta toshiba tecra 8000 2 proc.im running ubuntu 5.4 and i have a driver ndiswrapper ubt dont know how to use it to install my wireless usb network adapter
[07:43] <raven3x7> desrt its of course totally unoficiall as well
[07:43] <desrt> raven3x7; eh.  i'd rather install it from backports than marillat
[07:43] <desrt> raven3x7; since i already have backports anyway
[07:44] <Yendor> Anyone having issues running Java GUI programs due to "locale set to CX" in Breezy?
[07:44] <dylan> what app is best for system backups?
[07:44] <desrt> dylan; rsync :)
[07:44] <dylan> is it gui based?
[07:44] <desrt> heck no :)
[07:44] <dylan> is there one that is?
[07:45] <dylan> ok fine
[07:45] <raven3x7> desrt you should not have backports active unless you want a specific package. im talkin about backports not extras though. but the extras version is for sure more compatible with ubuntu
[07:45] <desrt> raven3x7; i'm personally on breezy
[07:45] <desrt> raven3x7; but i use backports on my family's computer
[07:47] <raven3x7> desrt that could make it impossible to update your system if you update your system with backports active
[07:47] <desrt> raven3x7; eh.
[07:47] <desrt> raven3x7; i just dist-upgrade to the whole lot
[07:48] <uber_newber> hey all i need sum help installingmy lynksis wireless usb network adapter, i gotta toshiba tecra 8000 2 proc.im running ubuntu 5.4 and i have a driver ndiswrapper ubt dont know how to use it to install my wireless usb network adapter
[07:48] <desrt> i feel confident in my abilities to deal with the consequences
[07:48] <uber_newber> can sum1 help me please
[07:48] <quique> #ubuntu-es
[07:49] <raven3x7> desrt its just that a lot of ppl seem to do it without knowing what their doing really. ;)
[07:50] <desrt> raven3x7; i totally didn't know what i was doing :)
[07:50] <desrt> raven3x7; everything is running very nicely now, though
[07:50] <raven3x7> desrt lol
[07:50] <desrt> plus... if i don't have backports then i lose my ability to update my system anyway
[07:50] <desrt> since hoary is frozen
[07:50] <desrt> oh... do you mean i lose the ability to move to breezy?
[07:51] <uber_newber> hey all i need sum help installingmy lynksis wireless usb network adapter, i gotta toshiba tecra 8000 2 proc.im running ubuntu 5.4 and i have a driver ndiswrapper ubt dont know how to use it to install my wireless usb network adapter
[07:51] <desrt> uber_newber; stop repeating yourself.
[07:51] <uber_newber> sorry
[07:51] <desrt> uber_newber; if nobody answers it's because nobody knows
[07:51] <uber_newber> ok
[07:51] <JDahl> uber_newber, and please dont use AOL speek here
[07:51] <desrt> uber_newber; you might try another time though... different people will be around
[07:52] <desrt> JDahl; :P
[07:52] <uber_newber> ok
[07:52] <desrt> JDahl; ur so crazzzie
[07:52] <uber_newber> whats aol speek?
[07:52] <desrt> "sum1", for example
[07:52] <uber_newber> oh sorry bout that too
[07:53] <desrt> heh.  i think he's just teasing :P
[07:53] <uber_newber> oh ok
[07:53] <qt2> damnit
[07:53] <qt2> i cant get ipodder running on ubuntu
[07:54] <desrt> qt2; O_o
[07:54] <desrt> qt2; in theory you should just be able to plug it in
[07:54] <qt2> ipodder is a podcating program desrt. ;)
[07:54] <desrt> oh
[07:54] <anacron> hmm
[07:55] <desrt> i thought it was the latest slang for sleak portable music players
[07:56] <anacron> i was going to try download some podcast's, but i found out that every where i did go i always had to download something, and then i forgot hole thing, but is there a web-page where i could download podcast's directly?
[07:56] <occy> http://occy.net/tmp/huh-ss.png
[07:56] <occy> Anyone seen this before?
[07:56] <occy> and know how to fix it.
[07:56] <occy> $TERM is set to xterm
[07:56] <occy> and I'm using gnome-terminal
[07:56] <occy> (this isn't on an Ubuntu box)
[07:56] <yoboy> hi
[07:58] <yoboy> where i have to post a bug ?
[07:58] <tritium> no, occy, that's a new one.  What kind of system is that happening on?
[07:58] <occy> tritium, not sure of the flavor.
[07:58] <occy> :/
[07:58] <occy> :set term?  shows xterm.
[08:00] <tritium> occy, vim shows term=xterm in gnome-terminal here too
[08:00] <occy> nod
[08:00] <qt2> anacron, err, i dont think i understand what you mean....?
[08:01] <anacron> qt2: i mean that i don't wan't to download anything to get those podcast's.
[08:01] <qt2> anacron, scan the rss feeds for the filenames then.
[08:01] <uber_newber> can sum1 help me use ndiswrapper to install my lynksis wireless us network adapter
[08:02] <SpecialBuddy> does anyone know how to set up apache
[08:02] <frank2134> let me link you to the guide
[08:02] <anacron> SpecialBuddy: sudo atp-get install apache2 :)
[08:02] <frank2134> http://ubuntuguide.org/#installapachehttpserver
[08:02] <frank2134> SpecialBuddy: http://ubuntuguide.org/#installapachehttpserver
[08:02] <typo> is there any easy way to downgrade breezy to hoary?
[08:03] <bur[n] er> IFRFLYR: pinging times out?
[08:03] <tritium> ubotu, tell frank2134 about ubuntuguide
[08:03] <thenuke> ubotu, tell thenuke about ubuntuguide
[08:03] <bur[n] er> IFRFLYR: u still there?
[08:03] <anacron> typo: what's a downgrade?
[08:03] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[08:03] <JDahl> typo, it's probably easier to reinstall Hoary
[08:03] <Kejk_PL> typo: no
[08:04] <typo> JDahl: Kejk_PL: ok
[08:04] <`saiko> hi all
[08:04] <thenuke> anacron: opposite of upgrade
[08:04] <Disease> hi everyone
[08:04] <uber_newber> can sum1 help me use ndiswrapper to install my lynksis wireless us network adapter
[08:04] <`saiko> does ubuntu incluse support posix scl?
[08:04] <Disease> how can i post my xorg.conf on ubuntu forums?
[08:04] <`saiko> *include
[08:04] <typo> is testing breezy useful at all?
[08:04] <typo> anyone care about bugs yet?
[08:05] <raven3x7> !ubuntuguide
[08:05] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[08:05] <frank2134> ubotu, tell frank2134 about jeditor
[08:06] <tritium> SpecialBuddy, please follow the wiki rather than ubuntuguide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApachePHPMySQL
[08:06] <Crembo> hey, now that I installed the ATI drivers, I can't change my resolution. which text file do I have to go to to do this?
[08:06] <JDahl> what mailinglist should I use for suggesting new packages for Breezy/universe?
[08:06] <nophix> ubuntuguide should be deleted imho
[08:06] <tritium> Please don't forget that lots of valuable documentation is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[08:07] <`saiko> does anyone know about my question?
[08:07] <`saiko> :X
[08:08] <frank2134> i've got a question. i've got a dual boot system and the "intermediary" partition is fat32. ubuntu always mounts the whole thing as 755 owner root on startup, is there a way to change this so some other user can have write access?
[08:08] <nophix> frank2134: in /etc/fstab
[08:09] <nophix> frank2134: user=someone
[08:09] <yoboy> tanks bye, i've found :p
[08:09] <moire> tach
[08:09] <frank2134> this is the line: /dev/hda4       /datashare      vfat    defaults        0       0
[08:09] <moire> ups
[08:09] <`saiko> lol
[08:10] <`saiko> deutscher
[08:10] <mai> hey guys, does anyone know the how to switch an ogg into an mp3 (i need to get some of my music onto my mp3 player... but i encode in ogg :( )
[08:10] <moire> saiko: sry, wrong pc ;)
[08:10] <frank2134> mai: try audacity
[08:10] <nophix> frank2134: defaults,user=someone
[08:10] <tritium> mai, you realize you'll lose some sound quality, right?
[08:10] <`saiko> :>
[08:10] <frank2134> nophix: thanks
[08:11] <`saiko> :(
[08:11] <`saiko> can somebody tell me if there's posix acl support in ubuntu kernel?
[08:11] <`saiko> :X
[08:11] <`saiko> please~
[08:12] <nophix> be patient
[08:12] <mai> frank2134:  thanks
[08:12] <mai> tritium:  yeah, i figured there would be some loss involved... but i wasn't expectin too much
[08:12] <mai> tritium:  how bad is it (i'm listening on my trucks not-so-hot speakers anyway)
[08:13] <nalioth_wrkn> tritium: it appears something happened to the hardware in my G4 ibook
[08:13] <tritium> mai, you're right, not that much.  But, any time you convery from one lossy format to another, you'll further degrade the original
[08:13] <nalioth_wrkn> tritium: it won't see the internet with any OS i install
[08:13] <tritium> nalioth_wrkn, oh, man that sucks
[08:13] <mai> tritium:  oh ok, thanks
[08:13] <Greuceanu> hi there all,
[08:13] <tritium> fried by the heat, nalioth_wrkn ?
[08:13] <Greuceanu> i need some help with the Ubuntu Live CD
[08:13] <raven3x7> desrt you said you were on breezy? isnt X broken on it?
[08:13] <Greuceanu> downloaded the ISO,
[08:14] <desrt> raven3x7; ehh
[08:14] <Greuceanu> burnt it on CD-R media
[08:14] <desrt> raven3x7; i hacked it into working
[08:14] <tritium> mai, if you're listening to it in your truck, you likely won't notice a difference :)
[08:14] <Greuceanu> tried to boot donesn't start
[08:14] <tritium> Greuceanu, did you check the md5sum of the image you burned?  Also, perhaps the burn wasn't successful.
[08:14] <Kejk_PL> Greuceanu:  do you have boot from CD turned in BIOS?
[08:14] <desrt> raven3x7; copied my font cache files from my laptop, copied some xutils over, etc...
[08:15] <desrt> raven3x7; it's pretty rough... daniels and infinity seem to think that they're gonna get it sorted out this week
[08:15] <raven3x7> desrt cool. hope they fix it cause i would most likely be unaaible to get it to work myself and id like to take a look at breezy
[08:15] <Greuceanu> tritium: don't know how to do the md5sum
[08:15] <Greuceanu> kejk, yes in BIOS is first boot device
[08:15] <tritium> Greuceanu, md5sum <filename.iso>
[08:15] <frank2134> greuceanu: type in the console "md5sum <filename>"
[08:15] <desrt> raven3x7; give it a week or two
[08:16] <desrt> raven3x7; after that, i bet it stays reasonable useable up to time of release
[08:16] <Greuceanu> ehm i run windows XP pro, wanted to check up on the ubuntu before instaling it
[08:16] <Kejk_PL> Greuceanu: in linux it is md5sum  image.iso, in windows - can it be done??
[08:16] <raven3x7> desrt yeah. release time is getting closer and closer :)
[08:16] <desrt> Kejk_PL; ya.. for windows all you have to do is download the ubuntu livecd, boot it up, and type md5sum :)
[08:16] <frank2134> Greuceanu: try searching on google for an md5 program for windows
[08:16] <uber_newber> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki-1.4.6/index.php/Installation#Installation    im at this site and im trying to install my ndiswrapper. i already have it downloaded. but i dont understand sum of the stuff for installing it, can sum1 help me out
[08:16] <Kejk_PL> desrt: lol
[08:17] <Greuceanu> k
[08:17] <uber_newber> what does go to source directory mean?
[08:17] <Kejk_PL> uber_newber: what you don't understand?
[08:17] <frank2134> Greuceanu: http://www.fourmilab.ch/md5/md5.zip
[08:17] <uber_newber> the source diretory thing
[08:18] <Kejk_PL> uber_newber: :)   after downloading ndiswrapper archive, unpack it, open terminal and suing   cd command change directory to this wich you just unpacked
[08:18] <pvanhoof> how do I get linux-<IP_ADDRESS>-1's source on ubuntu breezy? by downloading it from kernel.org or is there a package for it?
[08:19] <uber_newber> ok i downloaded it unpacked it and now what do i do?
[08:19] <pvanhoof> I need it to patch that kernel into an UML one
[08:19] <Kejk_PL> uber_newber: you can use TABulatorkey on your keyboard to help yourself- just tyle first tre or four letter, press TAb and it will continue writing for you
[08:19] <beekay> how come when I run fglrxconfig it wants to make an XFree config file?
[08:19] <uber_newber> k
[08:19] <uber_newber> but what are the command i have to do
[08:23] <a2ps> is there a way i can configure the wireless network using WAP at install time?
[08:23] <sorush20> guys how do I killall media player
[08:24] <thenuke> sorush20: killall mplayer
[08:24] <MartenH> a2ps: I think you will need to add wpa_supplicant later on
[08:24] <a2ps> MartenH, so theres is only WEP support at install time?
[08:24] <a2ps> tahnks
[08:25] <a2ps> *thanks
[08:25] <quique> #ubuntu-es
[08:25] <bigjg> I have seen no support for WPA at install time for wireless
[08:25] <MartenH> a2psm afaik, then again I'm really newto this. mind that I've been trying to get WPA working for 3 days now so THAT i know ;)
[08:26] <sorush20> guys mplayer seems to have crashed.. .
[08:26] <sorush20> I'm trying killall mplayer and I keep getting no process to kill
[08:26] <sorush20> can someone help please...
[08:26] <desrt> sorush20; it's probably called something else
[08:26] <bigjg> ps -ef
[08:26] <desrt> ps axuw | grep mplayer
[08:27] <nophix> kill -9 pid
[08:27] <raven3x7> sorush20, try killall gmplayer
[08:27] <chakri> hot to install mplayer using apt-get
[08:27] <desrt> install totem-xine instead.
[08:27] <sorush20> tanks guys...
[08:27] <chakri> it is giving error "ackage mplayer is a virtual package provided by:
[08:27] <chakri>   mplayer-nogui 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6
[08:27] <chakri>   mplayer-k6 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6
[08:27] <chakri>   mplayer-custom 1:1.0-pre5-0.6ubuntu1
[08:27] <chakri>   mplayer-586 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6
[08:27] <chakri>   mplayer-386 1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6
[08:27] <chakri> You should explicitly select one to install.
[08:28] <chakri> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[08:28] <desrt> chakri; plz avoid pasing more than 3 lines :/
[08:28] <zAo^> can you read? :D
[08:28] <chakri> ok sorry
[08:28] <zAo^> You should explicitly select one to install.
[08:28] <raven3x7> chakri use mplayer-386 or 586
[08:28] <tritium> chakri, don't paste please.  Read the topic
[08:28] <chakri> ok
[08:28] <bigjg> is there anything similar to domains/group policy for KDE yet?
[08:29] <chakri> still it is giving error for mplayer-386 or 586
[08:29] <sorush20> guys how do I send printer fireware....
[08:29] <raven3x7> chakri you need to be more specific
[08:30] <Riddell> bigjg: how do you mean?
[08:30] <bigjg> Is there any sort of centralized management for groups of computers running linux?
[08:30] <chakri> i want to install mplayer and it is giving abover error when i used the command "sudo apt-get intall mplayer"
[08:30] <bigjg> chakri you need to specify 386 or 586
[08:31] <bigjg> if not sure do sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[08:31] <raven3x7> chakri that because you should use sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 or -586
[08:31] <dylan> will breezy include beagle?
[08:32] <chakri> thank you it worked
[08:32] <bigjg> woohoo :)
[08:32] <raven3x7> my typing sucks these days
[08:33] <raven3x7> chakri cool. you need to read more carefully what error messages you are getting though. apt already had given you the answer
[08:33] <Slipaway172> how do i get a dell 720 printer to work?
[08:34] <a2ps> the only way i can boot the installation cd is using acpi=off (toshiba laptop), having acpi off what will not work on my computer? battery status? stand by? card reader? is there a way to provide acpi support later on?
[08:35] <typo> a2ps: you're probably being bitten by this: https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8140
[08:35] <chakri> raven3x7 actually i am new to ubuntu. I use fedoracore and there every thing is through downloading and installing rpms
[08:35] <typo> a2ps: no one seems to care but it's an ubuntu bug. kernel.org kernels don't have it
[08:35] <Strife> so I know that this isn't #latex, but... does anyone know if there's a way to easily make footnotes that aren't numbered in latex?
[08:36] <a2ps> typo, what if i upgrade the kernel after the installation, will acpi work?
[08:36] <roo_> Strife, ur right, this isnt #latex :)
[08:36] <raven3x7> chakri apt is more reliable really i used fedora myself then got tired of it constantly breaking
[08:36] <a2ps> i guess there is already a new kernel on the hoary repositories
[08:36] <roo_> Strife, i use latex a lot but i dont know about that one.. #latex is usually useful tho.
[08:36] <tritium> Strife, did you try running "texdoctk", and searching for "footnotes" ?
[08:36] <Strife> roo_: yeah, I'm in there now, no one has said anything yet :)
[08:37] <typo> a2ps: no ubuntu kernel has ever worked for me. I compiled my own from kernel.org and that works fine...
[08:37] <a2ps> damn.. i hate to compile custom kernels..
[08:37] <Strife> tritium: well, I've looked at all the footnote-related commands in kile's latex reference if that counts
[08:37] <the--dud> cripes, trying to install breezy with the 'server' option was not a clever idea! >_<
[08:37] <the--dud> nothing worked heh
[08:37] <tritium> Strife, you should try texdoctk.  Lots of good documentation.
[08:38] <typo> a2ps: comment on the bug then
[08:38] <mai> i'm trying to use audacity to change ogg's into mp3, but audacity can't find libmp3lame.so.  i installed the liblame0 package, but still no luck, anyone have any ideas?
[08:38] <roo_> Strife, if they arent numbered, whats the point?
[08:38] <a2ps> typo, i will. thanks for the help :)
[08:39] <Strife> roo_: I'm making a presentation using latex beamer, and I want to display references on the slides themselves, and I don't want numbers
[08:39] <Strife> footnotes look nice for that
[08:39] <Strife> minus the numbering
[08:40] <roo_> Strife, aah.. in that case the bibtex can handle that?
[08:40] <winex> hi
[08:40] <roo_> Strife, im sure you can set references to show after each chap/page/slide
[08:40] <winex> somebody run this window$ games with Cedega ??
[08:40] <] |[dArt-ChunY> Has anyone experience with installing Savage? after the install and patches all I get is a black screen.
[08:40] <Strife> roo_: meh, afaik about bibtex, it just generates a bibliography
[08:41] <Strife> which is not what I want at all
[08:41] <winex> Somebody can play Diablo 2 in LAN ??
[08:41] <tritium> Strife, what kind of references, then?
[08:41] <winex> qith Cedega??
[08:41] <winex> with*
[08:41] <roo_> Strife, bibtex and the "bibliography" latex package handle referencing.. very flexible..
[08:42] <tritium> definitely
[08:42] <delltony_> hi anyone know how to get smartlink slmodem to work with the 686 image only thing i see is 368 and i get an error when trying to install sl-modem-daemon about sl-modem-new any help would be great
[08:42] <Strife> tritium: scientific papers
[08:42] <tritium> Strife, yes, that would be bibliographic information, then.  Hence, the recommendation for using BibTeX.
[08:43] <roo_> Strife, use bibtex/bibliography. its designed for what u want so it should be a better tool, rather than hacking footnotes.
[08:43] <tritium> Strife, you enter references in a file, and then it's as easy as using \cite{} to cite a reference using bibtex
[08:44] <roo_> Strife, yep, its as easy as tritium says.
[08:44] <Strife> ok, but can I have the citations be on the same slide?
[08:44] <winex> anybody knows because Diablo II not runs in multiplayer-lan ???
[08:44] <roo_> Strife, yes.
[08:44] <Strife> every time I've used \cite before, it refers to a reference page
[08:44] <roo_> Strife, i dont know \how\ to get it on every slide, but you can.
[08:44] <roo_> Strife, it may take some hacking but hey, thats half the fun of TeX! :)
[08:45] <tritium> Strife, say you want to cite A and B on slide 1.  Then, on slide 1, put \cite{A} and \cite{B} wherever in the slide you want them to appear.
[08:45] <delltony_> :( i can't get sl-modem-daemon to install cause of dependencies borked in multiverse :(
[08:46] <chakri> is there any tool to setup ip ( ehternet )
[08:46] <Strife> tritium: hrm... I suppose I'll have to find a page that has more details on using bibliographies...
[08:46] <thenuke> depends on what you want / need chakri
[08:46] <thenuke> chakri: ifconfig?
[08:46] <thenuke> chakri: "ifconfig (8)         - configure a network interface"
[08:46] <tritium> Strife, again, I suggest you check out texdoctk.  It's _full_ of good information
[08:47] <tritium> You have it installed already (it's part of tetex-bin)
[08:48] <Strife> tritium: texdoctk is... but it's not finding the actual document files... I'm assuming I need to install a documentation package, heh
[08:48] <tritium> Strife, yeah, tetex-doc ;)
[08:48] <raven3x7> anyone if there is a way to uninstall samba without uninstalling ubuntu desktop?
[08:49] <Strife> sudo apt-get remove samba
[08:49] <Strife> or is that trying to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[08:49] <Strife> tritium: I had never known aboutt his texdoctk thing before... I approve
[08:49] <tritium> Strife, :)
[08:49] <raven3x7> Strife, yes it tries to uninstall ubuntu-desktop
[08:50] <tritium> raven3x7, you're trying to remove samba-common?
[08:50] <kai1501> what is the best dvd player ?
[08:50] <Strife> kai1501: xine
[08:50] <raven3x7> tritium yes
[08:51] <Kejk_PL> kai1501: mplayer, xine, ogle
[08:51] <raven3x7> kai1501, i like vlc personally
[08:51] <tritium> raven3x7, ubuntu-desktop is safe to remove, as it's just a meta-package, but you will want to reinstall it before upgrading to breezy when that time comes
[08:51] <mai> do i need to build sox from source, or can i get a version that has mp3 support compiled in?
[08:51] <Ghete1> is there something like ksnapshot (in that it has great command line support) that i can use in windows?
[08:51] <kai1501> thanks
[08:51] <winex> somebody use Cedega ????
[08:52] <patrickj> how can I add a root account to my ubuntu for us eof su -?
[08:52] <tritium> ubotu, tell patrickj about root
[08:52] <raven3x7> tritium ok thanks. im not sure if ill remember that though. ill forget my name one day
[08:52] <scott> anyone know of a terminal program that changes common text representations of progress bars to graphical representations or allows textured fonts? also, what is the best file manager that lends itself to being used from the keyboard? (and has graphics, but they're minimal)
[08:52] <tritium> ;)
[08:52] <Kejk_PL> winex: I'm
[08:53] <gene_kmbm> hello
[08:53] <patrickj> thnks
[08:54] <drewbono_work> Man, it's busy in here.
[08:54] <winex> kejk_PL: you plays Diablo 2 ???
[08:54] <trevi> Is posible to compile kde from source in ubuntu?
[08:54] <Strife> trevi: yes, but why would you want to?
[08:54] <Kejk_PL> winex: no, but I heard that it works perfectly in cedega (even in wine)
[08:54] <drewbono_work> So I've come in search of someone who's familiar with having ubuntu authenticate against a windows DC
[08:54] <scott> anyone know of a terminal program that changes common text representations of progress bars to graphical representations or allows textured fonts (like jaderholm.com/files/font.jpg)? also, what is a good file manager that lends itself to being used from the keyboard, and has graphics (useful and limited ones)?
[08:54] <Strife> trust me, I used to use gentoo back in the day... compiling KDE is no fun
[08:54] <trevi> just askin'
[08:54] <scott> opps, sorry for repeat
[08:54] <trevi> ok thaks Strife
[08:55] <raven3x7> tritium what i want to do is disable samba. i dont need it and therefore it is a security liability. you think there might be a better way?
[08:55] <winex> kejk_pl: yes, it runs good, but is not possible play in Lan...
[08:55] <Strife> trevi: but just so you know, apt-get (and synaptic for that matter) allows you to download (most) packages in source format which you can then build if you so choose
[08:55] <ninnghizidha_> Good morning! I'm looking for a way to determine what busID my graphiccard should use....
[08:55] <tritium> raven3x7, you're not running samba with just samba-common installed
[08:55] <Strife> ninnghizidha_: lspci
[08:55] <winex> kejk_pl: And I'm trying to repair this problem...
[08:56] <ninnghizidha_> thanks a lot, i'll try it, strife.
[08:56] <ninnghizidha_> 8i love this channekl)
[08:56] <tritium> Strife, don't you just love latex-beamer, by the way?
[08:56] <trevi> Strife: yes I know...but I have a 56K modem...And kde sources in a cd...
[08:56] <Strife> tritium: yep :)
[08:56] <raven3x7> tritium hmm i also have smclient but not the server
[08:56] <raven3x7> smbclient
[08:56] <tritium> raven3x7, right, no server :)
[08:56] <Strife> trevi: is that actually smaller? i.e., does that not include the graphics, etc. then?
[08:57] <winex> kejk_pl: do u know something about this problem???
[08:57] <Kejk_PL> winex: sorry, no :(
[08:57] <Strife> trevi: most likely, the amount of time you'd be compiling would take just as long as downloading binaries anyway ;)
[08:57] <winex> kejk_pl: T_T
[08:57] <Kejk_PL> winex: maybe on transgaming or on #cedega?
[08:58] <elph0> hello everybody
[08:58] <sophtpaw> hello
[08:58] <trevi> :u9...mmm that's sounds awfull --really
[08:58] <trevi> hello elph
[08:58] <winex> kejk_pl: transgaming says Diablo 2 runs perfectly.... but...
[08:59] <ninnghizidha_> "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller .. blabla" equals to BusID "PCI:1:0:0"?
[08:59] <winex> kejk_pl: Lan game doesn't works
[08:59] <elph0> im new in the ubuntu world... and i want to know, the ubuntu is debian based or its independent plataform?
[08:59] <lyy> is there a way to detect what languages my  system supports?
[08:59] <mjr> elph0, debian-based
[08:59] <ninnghizidha_> sure: at the GDM-Login-manager under languages.
[09:00] <Kejk_PL> winex: Unreal Tournament works just fine - I have never played Diablo, so I can't help much :0
[09:00] <Kejk_PL> :)
[09:00] <trevi> Suberbian ... I can say
[09:00] <elph0> cool, but what are the users focused? Desktop users? Server? Or both?
[09:01] <winex> kejk_pl: some games runs in LAN like Counter-Strike, but another like Age-Of-Empires and Diablo no
[09:01] <Kejk_PL> winex: strange
[09:01] <winex> kejk_pl: yes, strange
[09:01] <linuxboy> hi murmur
[09:01] <trevi> lyy: what do you mean... the locales?
[09:01] <winex> kejk_pl: Diablo 2 says: "Not valid IP found"
[09:01] <Disease> hi all
[09:02] <Kejk_PL> winex: but where is the problem  - can you put IP and connect or you receive some errors like network unreachable etc?
[09:02] <Chris107> hi everyone
[09:02] <Mobus> hello
[09:02] <elph0> hi
[09:02] <Chris107> i'm having a problem with starting up ubuntu
[09:02] <nubbe> elph0, I would say desktop is where it shines
[09:02] <Chris107> i get Kernel Panic - not syncing: machine check
[09:02] <trevi> Hi Chris
[09:02] <winex> kejk_pl: I'm not access to the Multiplayer menu
[09:02] <Chris107> anyone know why that's happening?
[09:03] <Chris_Tucker> Hi trevi
[09:03] <^thehatsrule^> Chris107: did you try booting the 2.4 kernel?
[09:03] <winex> kejk_pl: isn's a problem during the party cretion
[09:03] <Chris107> i don't think i have the 2.4 kernel installed
[09:03] <Chris107> i'm not sure
[09:04] <Kejk_PL> winex: I'm sorry, I can't help in this problem :(
[09:04] <^thehatsrule^> Chris107: its just a boot flag, did you try the livecd first?
[09:04] <Chris107> i can boot with a live cd
[09:04] <Chris107> get to the GUI and everything
[09:04] <^thehatsrule^> so this just happened when you did a hd-install?
[09:04] <winex> kejk_pl: well... I'm hope... One day I will play Diablo 2 in LAN!!!! T_T
[09:04] <Chris107> yes
[09:05] <Drifter> can someone please help me?
[09:05] <Kejk_PL> winex: :) try google and transgaming forum
[09:05] <elph0> nubbe> if you could say some words about the distro, what would you say?
[09:05] <Drifter> i need help with ubuntu please
[09:05] <Chris107> also, should i try the i386 version instead of amd64?
[09:06] <Chris107> i'm not sure if it's worth using the amd64 version
[09:06] <winex> kejk_pl: thanks
[09:06] <Drifter> can someone please help me answer a quick question? im new to ubuntu here
[09:07] <Kejk_PL> winex: no problem, I hope you find a way to fix it :)
[09:07] <nubbe> elph0, go to distrowatch and check some reviews, they r prolly better than what I can tell u, I'm just very happy with it since 6+ months coming from all windows all the time (no gaming tho)
[09:07] <sophtpaw> Drifter: have you checked out www.ubuntuguide.com ?
[09:07] <winex> kejk_pl: : )
[09:07] <Drifter> i have it up at the moment
[09:07] <Drifter> but mmm.....
[09:07] <nubbe> elph0, distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[09:07] <Drifter> i dunno
[09:07] <Drifter> this is such a simple thing, i think
[09:08] <norhted> hi everybody
[09:08] <sophtpaw> drifter: as a total newbie i can't help you
[09:08] <Mobus> does anyone know of an MP3 alarm clock for linux?
[09:08] <sophtpaw> but i also found useful
[09:08] <sophtpaw> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=73
[09:08] <elph0> i am reading about the cicle of new releases... six months to me sounds like "quickly new system, new problems". Its true for ubuntu?
[09:08] <norhted> have any of you ever used gcc in ubuntu
[09:09] <sophtpaw> its a forum for 'absolute beginners' you might find it useful also
[09:09] <tritium> norhted, yes
[09:09] <norhted> oh great then
[09:09] <norhted> can you tell me how
[09:09] <elph0> sorry about my questions... i am trying to understand better before test for a magazine that i work
[09:09] <tritium> norhted, "sudo apt-get install build-essential" to get the basic development environment
[09:09] <^thehatsrule^> Chris107: you dc'd: what cpu do you have?
[09:09] <tritium> then you should be all set
[09:09] <norhted> hmmm ok trying
[09:09] <Chris107> i have an AMD Athlon 3200
[09:10] <Chris107> Athlon 64
[09:10] <Mobus> does anyone know of an MP3 alarm clock for linux?
[09:10] <quique> #ubuntu-es
[09:10] <^thehatsrule^> Chris107: and the livecd you tried was for i386?
[09:10] <Chris107> no, amd64
[09:10] <fr500> Mobus, beep-media-player has a plugin for that
[09:11] <Chris107> but later on i've read there's no support for some programs in the amd64 version
[09:11] <^thehatsrule^> Chris107: then sry :/ im all intel here
[09:11] <Mobus> where can I get beep-media-plear and its plugin fr500?
[09:11] <^thehatsrule^> Chris107: but no harm in trying
[09:12] <fr500> Mobus, i was gonna say google, but........
[09:12] <fr500> http://www.sosdg.org/~larne/w/BMP_Homepage
[09:12] <ventzo> hello everybody
[09:13] <ventzo> I have one problem with partitions in ubuntu
[09:13] <tritium> Mobus, beep-media-player is in universe.
[09:13] <ventzo> is there any one who can help me
[09:13] <Mobus> thanks
[09:13] <fr500> tritium, it's plugins are not for the most part of it
[09:14] <norhted> thank you tritium for your help, it worked. by the way, i found some minor bugs. what is the best way to report
[09:14] <tritium> norhted, bugzilla, and thanks :)
[09:14] <sorush20> guys how do I extract a .exe file...
[09:14] <gantchev> ventzo, ask
[09:14] <norhted> :)) thnx
[09:14] <nJess> important question
[09:14] <tritium> norhted, https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ :)
[09:14] <ventzo> firstsorry for my english
[09:14] <nJess> will 32bit drivers work in ndiswrapper on 64bit linux?
[09:14] <fr500> sorush20, unzip file_name shoud work
[09:15] <Spec[x] > sorush20: do `file <filename.exe>` to determine what it is
[09:15] <norhted> duly noted..... :))
[09:15] <tritium> fr500, okay, but perhaps the plugins can be installed separately from the player
[09:15] <elph0> ok now i can say that this system is good... installation time! Thanx all
[09:15] <fr500> tritium, yes, but the latest release is not there i think
[09:15] <AndyR> lo all
[09:15] <fr500> not 100% sure
[09:15] <tritium> fr500, I see...
[09:16] <ventzo> gatchev ti si bylgarin mai
[09:16] <Chris107> i'm gonna try i386 version
[09:16] <Chris107> i used it before on my Pentium 4
[09:16] <gantchev> ventzo, da
[09:16] <Chris107> and i was happy with preformance and stuff
[09:16] <ventzo> dai na bg da te pitam
[09:17] <ventzo> iskash li da ti pratq direktno adresa  kydeto sym poblikuval problema
[09:17] <sorush20> spec[x] , fr500, its not working i get this error... root@ubuntu:/home/sam/Desktop # unzip lj1488en.exe
[09:17] <sorush20> Archive:  lj1488en.exe
[09:17] <sorush20>   End-of-central-directory signature not found.  Either this file is not
[09:17] <sorush20>   a zipfile, or it constitutes one disk of a multi-part archive.  In the
[09:17] <sorush20>   latter case the central directory and zipfile comment will be found on
[09:17] <gantchev> ventzo, private
[09:17] <sorush20>   the last disk(s) of this archive.
[09:17] <sorush20> unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of lj1488en.exe or
[09:17] <sorush20>         lj1488en.exe.zip, and cannot find lj1488en.exe.ZIP, period.
[09:17] <sorush20> sorry... should have used flood
[09:17] <Spec[x] > sorush20: did you run file on it?
[09:17] <fr500> sorush20, don't flood here
[09:17] <sophtpaw> drifter?
[09:18] <sorush20> its in the flood...
[09:18] <Spec[x] > no?
[09:18] <Spec[x] > # file lj1488en.exe
[09:18] <sorush20> spec[x] , fr500,  here is what I got when I ran file on it... its in the flood...
[09:18] <Chris107> anyone know what's causing the Kernel Panic - not syncing: machine check
[09:18] <Chris107> i keep getting?
[09:19] <Spec[x] > you mean #flood?
[09:19] <levander> udftools is how you use the rewrite feature of DVD-RW's and  CD-RW's?  E.g., not just write once, but can write to the disk multiple times?
[09:19] <levander> I need to rewrite from the command line.
[09:19] <sophtpaw> does someone know how to get into gui from command line?
[09:19] <Spec[x] > sorush20: that's a windows exec file...you can't unzip them
[09:19] <fr500> sorush20, maybe it's not a zipped insatller
[09:19] <Spec[x] > sorush20: you can try to run it with wine if you want
[09:19] <neuronlapse> hey, how can I try e17 window manager on ubuntu?
[09:19] <fr500> maybe it uses another compression method
[09:20] <^thehatsrule^> Chris107: maybe try failsafe boot params, or others...
[09:20] <levander> sophtpaw: type "startx"
[09:20] <sophtpaw> thx levander
[09:20] <sophtpaw> its not for me
[09:20] <fr500> Spec[x] , some zip - exes can be extracted that way
[09:20] <sorush20> spec[x] , I just need to get a file form inside.. it.. so I can send a firmware...
[09:20] <sophtpaw> drifter installed ubuntu from iso and says he found himself in text mode only
[09:20] <sorush20> spec[x] , its and .img file...
[09:20] <Spec[x] > aren't self-extracting zips reported as so with 'file'?
[09:21] <Spec[x] > sorush20: you have to 'install' it
[09:21] <Spec[x] > run wine on it
[09:22] <manolo> hi
[09:22] <manolo> where can I find a driver for my lexmark?????
[09:22] <linuxboy> can anybody recommend a usb wifi device that will work in linux ?
[09:23] <manolo> its an x1180
[09:23] <Drifter> levander
[09:23] <Drifter> you here?
[09:23] <sophtpaw> levander: startx came back with bash:command not found
[09:23] <Drifter> hehe
[09:23] <Chris_Tucker> sophtpaw try ctrl+shit+f7
[09:23] <sophtpaw> could you (or someone) help Drifter get out of text mode into gui
[09:24] <fr500> linuxboy, atheros
[09:24] <Anton2> levander: udftools is for packet writing (i think). To re-use a cd/dvd-rw, you just blank it (eg: cdrecord blank=fast)
[09:24] <sophtpaw> thx chris
[09:24] <Chris_Tucker> it work?
[09:24] <linuxboy> fr500: ty
[09:24] <Drifter> let me try
[09:24] <Drifter> Ctrl + shift + F7 does nothing
[09:25] <Drifter> my prompt still sayss mike@ubuntu~ and all that
[09:25] <norhted> in ubuntu, if we have also RPM packages, is there a packet manager to install them?
[09:26] <sophtpaw> chris: any other ideas?
[09:26] <Drifter> i dont know, ive not used linux before. all i know right now is im in a console mode, logged in with the account i made during setup.
[09:26] <uber_newber> .......so quiet in here.........................
[09:26] <concept10> norhted, try to install using ubuntu .debs only using rpm as LAST resort
[09:26] <Chris_Tucker> ctrl+alt+backspace?
[09:26] <sophtpaw> Does anyone know how to get out of text mode into gui?
[09:26] <Drifter> i need help getting into the GUI
[09:26] <linuxboy> fr500: there a usb version of that?
[09:27] <Drifter> Chris_Tucker, ill try it
[09:27] <fr500> linuxboy, i'm not 100% certain
[09:27] <fr500> sorry
[09:27] <norhted> but there is no .debs for nmap :)
[09:27] <linuxboy> fr500: there seems to be one... :)
[09:27] <Drifter> Ctrl + alt + back space makes my internal speaker beep.
[09:27] <Drifter> but thats it.
[09:28] <Chris_Tucker> you need to reconfig your xorg server
[09:28] <Drifter> can you guide me through that?
[09:28] <concept10> norhted, yes there is: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=nmap&searchon=name&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[09:28] <Drifter> or do u mean someone else?
[09:28] <norhted> hmmmm :)
[09:28] <Chris_Tucker> i knew 3 days ago but i cant remember the full command right now
[09:28] <Drifter> i typed help
[09:28] <Chris_Tucker> guys, throw up the command line for the xorg config app
[09:28] <concept10> Did you guys know that there is a package search for firefox?
[09:29] <Drifter> and theres a "exec" command
[09:29] <Drifter> but i dont know the file name for the desk top
[09:29] <anacron> Chris_Tucker: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:29] <Chris_Tucker> yes thats it anacron
[09:29] <Chris_Tucker> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:29] <Drifter>  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:29] <Chris_Tucker> yes
[09:29] <Chris_Tucker> do that
[09:29] <Drifter> ok ill type that
[09:29] <norhted> thnx concept, i liked this link :)
[09:29] <LinuxMoron> why doesnt the nautilus front end burning app make auido cds
[09:30] <concept10> norhted, how did you search for that package?
[09:30] <tritium> anacron, don't forget sudo
[09:30] <Drifter> guys
[09:31] <Drifter> it said
[09:31] <sophtpaw> sudo dpkg -
[09:31] <anacron> tritium: well that's so basic i don't usually remember to add it
[09:31] <Drifter> /usr/sbin/ dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg must be run as root
[09:31] <norhted> what is the difference between `warty`, `hoary` and `breezy`?
[09:31] <Chris_Tucker> ah yes dont forget to sudo
[09:31] <Chris_Tucker> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:31] <tritium> Drifter, you need to use sudo first
[09:31] <Drifter> what do i do now?
[09:31] <sophtpaw> anacron: lol, you forget you're talking to newbies
[09:31] <Chris_Tucker> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:31] <LinuxMoron> does the nautilus cd burner make audio cds?
[09:32] <tritium> no, LinuxMoron
[09:32] <Drifter> so now i type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:32] <Drifter> ?
[09:32] <sophtpaw> yes
[09:32] <Drifter> k...
[09:32] <concept10> norhted, those are ubuntu versions.
[09:32] <sophtpaw> then you'll be prompted for your password i imagine
[09:32] <Lio> how can i put the trashcan on my workspace?
[09:32] <Drifter> ok its asking for a password
[09:32] <LinuxMoron> tritium, so must i use GnomeBaker insted
[09:32] <Drifter> is that my account pass?
[09:32] <sophtpaw> yes
[09:33] <Drifter> thx
[09:33] <norhted> hmmm well, how can you check for my version?
[09:33] <tritium> LinuxMoron, or graveman, among others
[09:33] <LinuxMoron> cool.
[09:33] <anacron> sophtpaw: he will ask again, if he/she don't know how to use sudo, so i don't think that's a problem
[09:33] <Drifter> it says that
[09:33] <concept10> norhted, when did you install it?
[09:33] <sophtpaw> of course not
[09:33] <LinuxMoron> and why doesnt XINE show up in the Applications menu?
[09:33] <Drifter> the package is not installed and there is no information available,
[09:34] <norhted> 3 hours ago :)
[09:34] <scott> for some reason my page up/down don't work inside screen. anyone know why?
[09:34] <Drifter> then it spit out a couple more lines and now im back to a prompt.
[09:34] <linukso> Hi! Any zsh-users here? svn autocompletion doesn't work...
[09:34] <tritium> LinuxMoron, not all applications have proper .desktop entries following the freedesktop.org specification yet
[09:34] <sophtpaw> anacron: i was laughing because when i came from SuSE i had never heard of sudo, i found it a strange concept, but it works
[09:34] <norhted> by the way, i just found ubuntu today
[09:34] <Drifter> how do i get the package?
[09:34] <Drifter> or whatever
[09:34] <norhted> i think it is great
[09:35] <tritium> Drifter, did you spell it right?  please run "dpkg -l | grep xserver", and see what's listed
[09:35] <Drifter> okay....
[09:35] <concept10> channel : Ubuntu  package search engine for Firefox http://mycroft.mozdev.org/download.html?name=ubuntu&submitform=Find+search+plugins
[09:35] <sorush20> guys.. is wine legal..
[09:35] <tritium> yes
[09:35] <anacron> sure it is
[09:35] <tritium> sorush20, are you over 21?  ;)
[09:35] <concept10> If youre over 21
[09:36] <sophtpaw> except in muslim countries
[09:36] <Drifter> i typed that
[09:36] <anacron> :D
[09:36] <Lio> guys, how can i put a trashcan icon on my desktop?
[09:36] <sorush20> tritium, yes..
[09:36] <Kejk_PL> tritium: over 21? where?
[09:36] <Drifter> and it went thinking a second, it did not echo any lines, the next line was the prompt again.
[09:36] <tritium> Kejk_PL, the U.S.
[09:36] <sophtpaw> in France we give wine to babies, hehe
[09:36] <Kejk_PL> tritium: sucks :)
[09:36] <tritium> Drifter, did you do a normal install?
[09:36] <concept10> tritium, are you a developer?
[09:36] <Drifter> tritium
[09:36] <david_> hi there
[09:37] <Drifter> i installed the standard thing for 1386
[09:37] <david_> i have a question you may be able to answer
[09:37] <tritium> concept10, no, just a universe packager (on occasion)
[09:37] <kkathman> Lio - Right click on a bar, choose Add to Panel, then Applet...its there.
[09:37] <Drifter> some of the packages didnt install fully, but i think most of it is here
[09:37] <sophtpaw> drifter: you downloaded iso?
[09:37] <Drifter> yes
[09:37] <Drifter> and burned to CD
[09:37] <LinuxMoron> so Xine plays both audio and video?
[09:37] <tritium> Drifter, can you please "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop", and see it if pulls in more packages...
[09:38] <uber_newber> ne1 wanna see if lynksis wireless adapters are supported by ndiswrapper?
[09:38] <concept10> tritium, the reason I asked is because someone made a plugin called tritium a couple of years ago, it was great
[09:38] <tritium> concept10, oh, really?  What did it do?
[09:38] <Drifter> tritium, sure. but can we talk in pm? too many ppl, i need to keep up with u
[09:38] <tritium> Drifter, okay.
[09:39] <Lio> kkathman, i mean, i wanna put it in the workspace
[09:39] <tritium> Kejk_PL, :)
[09:39] <sophtpaw> you're in luck Drifter, you're in good and capable hands in here
[09:39] <tritium> sophtpaw, :)
[09:39] <drewbono_work> Has anyone here got ubuntu to authenticate against a Windows domain before?
[09:39] <sophtpaw> you'll get there and when you do, drifter, welcome to Ubuntu
[09:40] <Kejk_PL> tritium: in Holland is nice, but I live in Poland - pretty good too :)
[09:40] <sophtpaw> tritium, ;)
[09:40] <concept10> tritium, check this out:http://www.kvraudio.com/get/60.html
[09:41] <tritium> Kejk_PL, I can imagine :)
[09:41] <tritium> heh, elph0 :)
[09:41] <uber_newber> are lynksis wireless cards supported by ndiswrapper?
[09:41] <sorush20> I have to run the uninstall with the wine too right..
[09:42] <Kyral> uber_newber, yes
[09:42] <sorush20> how does the flood work... I don't understand.. it doesn't seem very busy...
[09:42] <uber_newber> Kryal> thanx
[09:42] <sophtpaw> i thought it was the blue pill :0
[09:42] <elph0> tritium> i think that brazilians guys will do the same after the magazine say that its good :D
[09:43] <david_> hi
[09:43] <david_> is there anybody able to help me??
[09:43] <Kyral> uber_newber, just have the Windows drivers on hand
[09:43] <david_> i have some problems with my ubuntu distribution
[09:43] <Kyral> david_, depends on the question :D
[09:43] <david_> ok ok
[09:43] <uber_newber> Kryal> ok
[09:43] <david_> i will tell you
[09:43] <tritium> thanks for the URL, concept10 :)
[09:43] <Vasily> lol
[09:43] <tritium> elph0, awesome!
[09:43] <david_> i have installed the ubuntu distribution with the default stuff
[09:43] <Kyral> yup
[09:43] <david_> and if i try to choose the multimedia sound system i have three options
[09:44] <david_> ALSA, OSS and esound
[09:44] <concept10> tritium, np.  Its a VST intrument plugin, it was great years back.  I used to make alot of songs with it
[09:44] <david_> the only one working is esound and i want to have ALSA working alone and emulating OSS
[09:44] <Kyral> I wish they had ONE sound system for Linux....
[09:44] <Kyral> !esd
[09:44] <ubotu> I heard esd is Enlightened Sound Daemon. By using a sound server to access your sound device, multiple applications can connect to the server at once and all make noise simultaneously.
[09:44] <concept10> One.....
[09:44] <LinuxMoron> how can i get totem to play audio and video
[09:44] <pippijn> hi all
[09:44] <sophtpaw> kyral: ditto that
[09:44] <concept10> Linux has three of everything
[09:44] <sophtpaw> only three?!
[09:44] <concept10> at least three
[09:45] <sophtpaw> :)
[09:45] <Kyral> someone change that to be the thing that tells you how to kill ESD
[09:45] <david_> hehehe
[09:45] <pippijn> does anyone know how to setup an ntp server?
[09:45] <Kyral> wait..
[09:45] <david_> yeah but the problem is that there are some applications that are not working properly
[09:45] <david_> like vlc for example
[09:45] <tritium> pippijn, sudo apt-get install ntp-server ;)
[09:45] <pippijn> tritium: I did that
[09:46] <pippijn> I did that
[09:46] <david_> i may try to recompile the kernel but i thinks that's maybe too complicated
[09:46] <Lio> can anyone tell how to put a trashcan icon in my workspace (not on the panel)
[09:46] <tritium> pippijn, beyond that, look in /usr/share/doc/ntp-server for documentation
[09:46] <pippijn> ah
[09:46] <sophtpaw> david: have you updated repositories?
[09:46] <signius> david there is an option in the sound bit of system stuff
[09:46] <tritium> pippijn, all packages put their docs under /usr/share/doc
[09:46] <pippijn> hm
[09:46] <david_> yes i have
[09:46] <signius> let me boot my laptop ill see if i can find
[09:46] <signius> i had the same problem
[09:46] <trappist> ubuntu seems like it might be my kind of distro.  is there like a "why use ubuntu" doc somewhere?
[09:46] <LinuxMoron> does anybody know of a universal media player?
[09:46] <david_> but nothing changed
[09:47] <trappist> LinuxMoron: mplayer
[09:47] <tritium> Lio, one moment
[09:47] <david_> linuxmoron vlc is a good chance
[09:47] <pippijn> tritium: that is no good... just a changelog
[09:47] <LinuxMoron> trappist, mplayer gives me a font erorr
[09:47] <LinuxMoron> error
[09:47] <Kyral> david_,  try this http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[09:47] <tritium> pippijn, nothing more?
[09:47] <pippijn> nope
[09:47] <david_> ok kyral
[09:47] <tritium> hrm, that's not helpful
[09:47] <david_> i'll be back in some minutes then
[09:47] <sophtpaw> gl
[09:47] <norhted> i have the most recent ubuntu, is it breezy?
[09:47] <pippijn> indeed and google says nothing useful either
[09:48] <funkyHat> Kyral,
[09:48] <funkyHat> !ubuntuguide
[09:48] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[09:48] <signius> its nothing to do with the packages
[09:48] <tritium> pippijn, best I can suggest then is to "dpkg -L ntp-server" to list the files in the package, and see what it's got.  Then, take a loot at config files, etc.
[09:48] <pippijn> google tells me about how to setup ntp at windows
[09:48] <tritium> s/loot/look
[09:48] <trappist> ok then I'll just as you guys - why would somebody switch from, say, debian to ubuntu?
[09:48] <signius> I had it where sound stuff wouldnt work under kismet
[09:48] <david_> ouch
[09:48] <signius> its to do with this ESD crap
[09:49] <signius> booting my lappy now
[09:49] <david_> i am sorry mates i have to leave now... but thank you very much, i'll be back if i don't find the answer
[09:49] <zzzzzzz> how can I find out to which package a certain file belongs to?
[09:49] <david_> bye!!
[09:49] <norhted> hello guys
[09:49] <norhted> i have the most recent ubuntu, is it breezy?
[09:49] <Kyral> funkyHat, I how, but I couldn't find the damn forum topic
[09:49] <Kyral> NO NO NO!!!
[09:49] <funkyHat> norhted, the most recent released version is hoary (5.04)
[09:49] <Kyral> Breezy == UNSTABLE!!
[09:49] <norhted> :*
[09:49] <tritium> zzzzzzz, dpkg -S <filename>
[09:49] <pippijn> tritium: apt-get install ntp-doc
[09:49] <signius> pointless me booting up my laptop and giving david the answer now then
[09:49] <pippijn> it has external ntp docs
[09:49] <norhted> :) thnx funkyHat
[09:49] <Kyral> sorry for yelling, but upgrading to Breezy gives you a world of problems
[09:49] <tritium> pippijn, there you go :)
[09:49] <signius> it would have only tooka  couple of mins
[09:49] <sophtpaw> very bleedin unstable
[09:49] <Kyral> X != working
[09:49] <pippijn> 2MB
[09:50] <pippijn> Kyral: X == working for me
[09:50] <pippijn> ;)
[09:50] <Kyral> in Breezy?
[09:50] <citrus_> what do i put in grub so it wont boot with framebuffer?
[09:51] <pippijn> tritium: the first thing I see in the docs: NTP is by its very nature a complex distributed network application
[09:51] <tritium> pippijn, I can imagine.
[09:51] <zzzzzzz> tritium: thanks!
[09:51] <tritium> sure thing, :)
[09:51] <pippijn> there's r and s addresses
[09:52] <signius> is all he has to do is disable Enable sound server startup from with sound in system and david would have been good to go
[09:52] <pippijn> and peers and servers and manycast
[09:52] <pippijn> whoa
[09:52] <citrus_> what do i put in grub so it wont boot with framebuffer?
[09:52] <pippijn> this is going to be a long read
[09:52] <signius> oh well serves him right for beong so impatient
[09:54] <zzzzzzz> does anyone of you use the CUPS browsing feature?
[09:54] <norhted> well, i downloaded my first .deb package, is there a tutorial to explain how to install it?
[09:54] <pippijn> norhted: dpkg -i <package>
[09:54] <pippijn> that's really the whole tutorial
[09:55] <zzzzzzz> :-)
[09:55] <ValheruLord> with which command can i configure my network with dhcp
[09:55] <norhted> ok, trying........
[09:55] <Kejk_PL> in breezy will be parrel init? it would be very usefull for NTP (if networks is down it take ages to go to next step)?
[09:55] <the--dud> is ubuntuforums.org slow for anyone else here?
[09:55] <Burgundavia> the--dud, yes
[09:55] <the--dud> Burgundavia, :/
[09:55] <the--dud> that's how it goes I suppose...
[09:55] <tritium> Lio, still there?
[09:55] <the--dud> Burgundavia, noticed if its been so for long now?
[09:55] <pippijn> Kejk_PL: I won't like parallel init
[09:56] <Burgundavia> the--dud, just started trying
[09:56] <pippijn> I hope you can deactivate that feature
[09:56] <ValheruLord> with which command can i configure my network with dhcp
[09:56] <pippijn> ValheruLord: dhclient
[09:56] <the--dud> ValheruLord, its a common mistake to assume you want dhcpd, but you really want dhcpcd
[09:56] <tritium> ValheruLord, please don't repeat
[09:56] <Kejk_PL> pippijn: Ok, so what will be done with NTP-client?
[09:56] <the--dud> or dhclient
[09:56] <pippijn> Kejk_PL: maybe give it a timeout
[09:56] <pippijn> or
[09:56] <citrus_> how should i change menu.lst for grub so that it does not boot with framebuffer ?
[09:56] <tritium> ValheruLord, you likely have what you need installed.  Make sure the interface is configured for DHCP
[09:56] <pippijn> like me - I put a & after the ntpdate command
[09:57] <tritium> Lio, ?
[09:57] <pippijn> in the init.d entry
[09:57] <pippijn> citrus_: vga=normal
[09:57] <tritium> look into update-rc.d
[09:57] <Lio> tritium, sorry i was reading  hehe
[09:57] <pippijn> citrus_: after the kernel
[09:57] <Lio> tritium, well im here now :)
[09:57] <pippijn> i.e. as kernel option
[09:57] <Kejk_PL> pippijn: so you have parallel init :) timeout should be lower too
[09:57] <tritium> Lio, Applications->System Tools->Configuration Editor
[09:57] <pippijn> Kejk_PL: I have parallel init for only one entry
[09:57] <citrus_> pippijn: should i take anything out?
[09:57] <pippijn> citrus_: no
[09:58] <citrus_> like splash
[09:58] <signius> how can i do a search for all packages to do with snmp using apt-get ?
[09:58] <citrus_> k
[09:58] <pippijn> splash will be overridden
[09:58] <tritium> signius, "apt-cache search snmp"
[09:58] <citrus_> pippijn: should i put that right after splash
[09:58] <pippijn> citrus_: just as the last option
[09:58] <pippijn> it overrides anything else
[09:58] <signius> OOoooooohhhhhhh 6 mins away from possibly winning myself a new server on ebay
[09:58] <ValheruLord> tritium, my friend has a problem... installed ubuntu yeah but his net is not wokin with dhcp.. i say him to give ifup eth0 command .. he says no response form terminal to that ... btw his eth card is recgnized no problem because of hardware
[09:58] <aarcane> apt-get install azureus failed.  WTF!?!?  I _KNOW_ azureus exists, why can't I apt-get install it ?
[09:59] <signius> tritium thanks
[09:59] <tritium> Lio, then: apps->nautilus->desktop->trash_icon_visible (check this)
[09:59] <tritium> ValheruLord, he needs to configure eth0 to use dhcp
[09:59] <bigjg> aarcane: might need java first
[09:59] <zzzzzzz> why is my network card (eth0) always configured at boot-time even though I did deactivate it in System / Administration / Networking?
[09:59] <citrus_> ok  going to try it  talk in a bit
[09:59] <mcphail> Anyone here on AMD 64? Are there problems with graphics card drivers etc? (i'm thinking of buying a new box...)
[09:59] <ismael> hola
[09:59] <tritium> ValheruLord, make sure he has a line like "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:00] <ValheruLord> he did tritium .. in /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp is written
[10:00] <Lio> Lio, ok lemme try
[10:00] <Kejk_PL> pippijn: OK :) but it would be nice to make advanced init - NTP won't start, if /etc/init,d/network failed
[10:00] <ismael> holsaben cmopuedo hacer aparecer la papelera de reciclaje an el escritorio?
[10:00] <tritium> ismael, #ubuntu-es
[10:00] <aarcane> does this look like missing java: ithil ElectronX: You need a court order for it.
[10:00] <aarcane> Greg-Nap Electorn, well lesse, there is the two guys they caught up in Albany who wanted to start a terror training camp, there is the one in
[10:00] <signius> does anyone here use any snmp tools i was looking for something similar to snmpwalk if possible
[10:01] <aarcane> does this look like missing java: apt-get install azureus
[10:01] <aarcane> Reading package lists... Done
[10:01] <aarcane> Building dependency tree... Done
[10:01] <aarcane> E: Couldn't find package azureus
[10:01] <mcphail> zzzzzzz: remove the word 'auto' in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:01] <pippijn> Kejk_PL: yes that would be optimum
[10:02] <tritium> aarcane, you're missing a repo then.  one of those backports repos
[10:02] <zzzzzzz> mcphail: but apart from lo there is no auto in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:02] <Kejk_PL> pippijn: but who will make it? :))
[10:02] <ValheruLord> mcphail, why can dhcp be not working and connection not set at start ...in /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp is written and ifconfig eth0 is okay
[10:02] <pippijn> Kejk_PL: your next project ;)
[10:02] <aarcane> tritium, I added every repo but the src repos in synaptic, and It's simply not there.
[10:02] <tritium> ValheruLord, what happens when he runs "ifup eth0"?
[10:02] <Kejk_PL> pippijn: hehe
[10:02] <tritium> aarcane, did you update?
[10:03] <tritium> aarcane, after adding the repos, you need to reload the package listings so apt knows about the packages in the new repos you added
[10:03] <scott> anyone know how to get rid of the foot icon in file manager (nautilus?)
[10:03] <Lio> tritium, tnx man it worked :)
[10:03] <tritium> Lio, :)
[10:03] <ValheruLord> tritium, returns nothing he says
[10:04] <aarcane> tritium, yes.  I updated just this morning.  I've not changed my repositories in about 2 weeks.  I have everything, universe, multiverse, restricted..  everything but src
[10:04] <tritium> aarcane, it's not in any of the official repos
[10:04] <zzzzzzz> scott: I think that can be done with the System tools / Configuration editor (gconf-editor)
[10:04] <ValheruLord> tritium, ?
[10:05] <tritium> ValheruLord, what does ifconfig tell you about the interface?
[10:05] <aarcane> tritium, is there an official unofficial repo I need ?
[10:05] <Hoxzer> how do I set prioreties to files in bittorrent?
[10:06] <yaaar> word
[10:06] <zzzzzzz> scott: try apps / panel / objects. There should be an object for your menu. There is an entry use-custom-icon....
[10:06] <tritium> aarcane, yes, I said it's one of the backports repos
[10:06] <aarcane> tritium, I hate to sound like a complete n00b, but..  backports repos ?
[10:07] <nubbe> aarcane, http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/   main universe multiverse restricted
[10:07] <phanter> how can i install ttf font in ubunut
[10:07] <phanter> ubuntu (sorry)
[10:07] <tritium> aarcane, I'm not the one to ask.  I don't use backports
[10:07] <nubbe> aarcane, ubuntuguide,org  as always
[10:08] <nubbe> . that is
[10:08] <ValheruLord> tritium, ifconfig eth0 is okay .. rx.. tx full duplex
[10:08] <tritium> ubotu, tell nubbe about ubuntuguide
[10:08] <scott> zzzzzzz: I can't find it anywhere under apps/nautilus
[10:08] <AndyR> anyone know if gaimvv has been packaged yet for ubuntu?
[10:08] <Dr_Fate> I don't what the hell is wrong with my system
[10:08] <Dr_Fate> well FF at least
[10:08] <tritium> AndyR, no, it has not
[10:08] <Dr_Fate> my system is running fine
[10:08] <sorush20> guys could some one explain this to me please... it s in the flood...
[10:09] <Dr_Fate> but FF wont start now
[10:09] <nubbe> tritium, thank u, I had nooooo idea, pls fix wiki, instead of telling me that
[10:09] <norhted> now my new challenge comes :))
[10:09] <norhted> i am a turkish-q keyboard user, however this keyboard is not included in ubuntu. :( is there a way to add a new keyboard type?
[10:09] <tritium> Dr_Fate, see the topic
[10:09] <yaaar> i've got a weird one. a friend of mine had ubuntu installed on /dev/hdb with a win2k install on /dev/hda. Then he pulled the windows drive out and put the ubuntu one on master. naturally it wouldn't boot, as grub was previously installed on hda. so i booted a gentoo livecd (it was handy) mounted the partition, edited /boot/grub/menu.lst, changed all the (hd1,0) lines to (hd0,0), all the (hd1) lines to (hd0), and all the /de/hdb's into /dev/hda's.
[10:09] <AndyR> tritium, im interested in taking it on
[10:09] <yaaar> anybody know what i might have missed?
[10:09] <tritium> nubbe, what do you mean fix the wiki?
[10:09] <zzzzzzz> scott: apps/panel/objects in gconf-editor
[10:09] <ValheruLord> tritium, ifconfig is ok? and ? what more to try
[10:09] <tritium> AndyR, really?  Go for it!
[10:09] <nJess> how do i install ndiswrapper?
[10:10] <LasseL> Dr_Fate, did you search the forums?
[10:10] <Dr_Fate> tritium, I've seen the topic and this has nothing to do with it.
[10:10] <tritium> ValheruLord, did he try dhclient eth0 ?
[10:10] <AndyR> tritium, is it best to make my intentions known?
[10:10] <qt2> are gonme# and glade# available in backports? i cant find them anywhere, but the guy that wrote monopod said they were there...
[10:10] <majikstreet> nJess there are good guides on the forums for ndiswrapper but i think they are down now :(
[10:10] <nubbe> tritium, make it easier to use, why don't u check the thread about this on ubuntuforums
[10:10] <matva> helllllllllllooooooooooooooooo
[10:10] <tritium> AndyR, it can't hurt.  :)
[10:10] <phanter> is it possible to install true type fonts in ubuntu? and how can I do this?
[10:11] <nJess> i just need the apt-get command
[10:11] <nJess> do you know that?
[10:11] <majikstreet> yes
[10:11] <mcphail> Anyone using ubuntu on AMD 64?
[10:11] <Dr_Fate> LasseL, Even with the well know issues, FF still started, and worked albeit slowly, now it doesnot start at all after crimsun directed me to force install the older version
[10:11] <majikstreet> apt-get install ndiswrapper and apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[10:11] <nJess> k
[10:11] <AndyR> just incase someone else has similar ideas
[10:11] <mjr> phanter, basically most software will see fonts put in ~/.fonts
[10:11] <tritium> nubbe, the wiki documentation is what we prefer users follow.  I don't know what you mean by "fix"
[10:11] <mjr> phanter, sadly, openoffice.org is an exception
[10:11] <LasseL> Dr_Fate, i had something like that too
[10:11] <qt2> so hello...
[10:12] <majikstreet> that should work-- you can use the ndiswrapper wki for the configuration
[10:12] <zzzzzzz> could anyone actually log into irc.freenode.net using the pre-installed XChat from Ubuntu 5.04?
[10:12] <phanter> mjr, I do use OO.org, hpw can i make it recognize my font?
[10:12] <yaaar> zzzzzzz: yeah i have
[10:12] <LasseL> Dr_Fate, I uninstalled all packaged called anything like firefox, disabled the backports from my sources.list and finally installed "ubuntu-desktop"
[10:12] <AndyR> zzzzzzz, yes no probs
[10:12] <Dr_Fate> LasseL, It won't srt nor does it give any error
[10:12] <ValheruLord> tritium, may be dhclient is not in init.. how to check???
[10:12] <mjr> phanter, I don't recall, sorry
[10:12] <LasseL> Dr_Fate, i had the same
[10:12] <Dr_Fate> LasseL, sounds like what I need
[10:13] <azambuja> hi there! i need help with a sobrenatural problem in my ubuntu :-)
[10:13] <phanter> mjr, and I do not have the folder /.fonts
[10:13] <nubbe> tritium, u can prefer all u want, and u can be condescending all u want, but I'm not impressed by ur pretended ignorance
[10:13] <tritium> ValheruLord, not sure I know what you mean.  It's in the dhcp3-client package
[10:13] <nalioth> phanter: make a ~/.fonts folder
[10:13] <Dr_Fate> LasseL, Attempting to remove FF wanted to dismantle the whole damn OS
[10:13] <mjr> phanter, that just means that you don't have user fonts installed yet
[10:13] <zzzzzzz> yaaar, AndyR: no error msg "USER :Not enough parameters" in XChat?
[10:13] <tritium> nubbe, what are you talking about?  Try to be polite, please.
[10:14] <azambuja> my network is well configured, but when i reboot it does not work. then i restart networking without changing configuration and then it starts working :-S
[10:14] <LasseL> Dr_Fate, it wants to uninstall ubuntu-desktop? you say yes
[10:14] <raven3x7> i added a new user to my system. crated his home folder. but gnome wont start because it cant create an entry in gconf. any ideas?
[10:14] <tritium> nubbe, we simply ask that people not refer to ubuntuguide.  Nothing condescending about that.
[10:15] <citrus_> ubuntu forums down?
[10:15] <Dr_Fate> LasseL, not exactly, it wants to uninstall gnome , gnome-fifth-toe, gdm, etc
[10:15] <phanter> mjr, I just did what you said and OO.org 2 did recognise the font and it works !!! (I now can finally read the Georgion texts !!! ) thanks!
[10:15] <thenuke> yeap, ubuntuguide is not guide for real newbies :)
[10:15] <majikstreet> the forums seem to be down
[10:15] <matva> Anyone know how i can change my firefox icon? It says permission denied
[10:15] <majikstreet> that was @ cirtrus_
[10:15] <mjr> phanter, oh, yeah, version 2 does use fontconfig (and therefore works with .fonts), I just assumed you were using 1.x :)
[10:15] <Dr_Fate> LasseL, I'm tempted to just wait until an update becomes available
[10:15] <majikstreet> citrus_ are you getting connection refused? i am too
[10:16] <raven3x7> matva yiu probably need root privileges
[10:16] <LasseL> Dr_Fate, sounds bad
[10:16] <nubbe> tritium, I'll be polite, but r u really telling me that u can't see that the ease of use provided by ubuntuguide is a good complement to wiki?
[10:16] <tritium> nubbe, we've provided a nice URL to UserDocumentation in the topic
[10:16] <citrus_> yeah
[10:16] <Disaster_it> Sorry for this question... someone use Iomega zip (ppa) under Ubuntu?
[10:16] <azambuja> no ideas, no one? :-(
[10:16] <LasseL> Dr_Fate, which packages did you say you try to uninstall?
[10:16] <chaps0063> can anyone tell me why when I log into gnome, my home directory opens up?
[10:16] <nubbe> tritium, especially for ppl who might not even know what they r looking for?
[10:16] <[ABC] BadBadBoy> U R ALL GAY
[10:16] <majikstreet> citrus_  I guess they are down then.
[10:17] <mjr> chaps0063, you have a session saved where your home dir is open; save the session you want the next time you log out, or manually
[10:17] <Dr_Fate> LasseL, all things FF related
[10:17] <matva> root priv? I'm using kubuntu, and it only has sudo.
[10:17] <chaps0063> mjr: ah, I see...thanks.
[10:17] <yaaar> anybody know why ubuntu would drop me at a 'grub?' prompt after switching a hard drive's position and reinstalling grub? it'll boot if i type 'configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst' at the prompt.
[10:17] <matva> this is madness
[10:17] <chaps0063> matva: did you try sudo passwd root?
[10:17] <tritium> nubbe, much of its advice is very poor.  It's not good for newbies in particular.  No explanation of _why_ things are done, for one thing.
[10:17] <LasseL> Dr_Fate, expiriment with fewer packages
[10:17] <signius> ok so sudo su
[10:17] <Disaster_it> Sorry for this question... someone use Iomega zip (ppa) under Ubuntu?
[10:18] <raven3x7> nubbe since lately ubuntuguide suggest using backports for day to dy usage i dont think its very usefull to newbies really
[10:18] <majikstreet> if the firefox versions are broken, how do we get firefox?!?!
[10:18] <citrus_> is there just as many packages for the amd64 distro?  i just installed it
[10:18] <Dr_Fate> LasseL, its useless its because of the backports
[10:18] <Dr_Fate> LasseL, crimsun had me remove it without touching the dependencies from CLI
[10:18] <mjr> citrus_, differences are mostly in third-party packages
[10:18] <nubbe> tritium, I understand that u don't want to be responsible if someone breaks stuff, but I prolly would have kept on walking if it wasn't for that guide
[10:19] <matva> wow
[10:19] <LasseL> Dr_Fate, come to think of it. I disabled backports first, did an update and then removed the ff packages
[10:19] <Dr_Fate> LasseL, at least the other Gecko browsers still work
[10:19] <chaps0063> matva: wow?
[10:19] <flogiston> Hi i Just installed a windows program that creates themes for sonyericsson phones. But i can't find the directory where I installed the program.
[10:19] <IcemanV9> english ubuntu forum is down?
[10:19] <Dr_Fate> LasseL, I'll try that
[10:19] <raven3x7> matva use sudo
[10:19] <tritium> nubbe, okay, but please understand why we're not recommending it.  Some of its advice is simply not the right way to do things.
[10:19] <LasseL> Dr_Fate, ok, in my case no mozilla based packages could install so i was pretty much fscked
[10:19] <majikstreet> IcemanV9 if you are getting connection refused, welcome to the club; they are down i think
[10:19] <IcemanV9> figured
[10:19] <raven3x7> sudo gives root priviliges
[10:20] <flogiston> What is the path to fake_windows?
[10:20] <citrus_> whats a good repository for amd64 packages that are pretty updated  like new version of programs
[10:20] <matva> how do i talk to you directly
[10:20] <tritium> flogiston, that should be under your ~/.wine directory
[10:20] <qt2> are gonme# and glade# available in backports? i cant find them anywhere, but the guy that wrote monopod says they are there...
[10:20] <flogiston> There is no /.wine under ~
[10:20] <Dr_Fate> LasseL, ouch, not that bad here, but try to remove after backports disabled, brb
[10:21] <phanter> hello, I have problems with my time settings. I use ntp and my timezone is configured correctly, but the time on my machine is one hour off (it is actual time - 1 hour on my laptop). Where could the problem be?
[10:21] <enno_> hello i am new to ubuntu and eager to understand the package management. what i need to know is: how can i install something if i dont have an internet connection on my computer? i search for ncurses-devel package but couldnt find one
[10:21] <nubbe> tritium, I understand ur point of view, I think. I also, honestly, would like to know what backports is breaking, since I use it
[10:21] <tritium> flogiston, okay, that is where it _would_ be if you had used winetools, for example.
[10:21] <tritium> nubbe, breaks upgrading to new releases
[10:21] <majikstreet> phanter: seems like something to do with daylight savings time... maybe it isn't and should be or maybe it is and shouldn't be
[10:22] <flogiston> Tritium, I used winetools, I think...
[10:22] <nalioth> nubbe: the backports developers are currently not in sync with mainline ubuntu devs
[10:22] <tritium> nubbe, and it's not _my_ point of view alone ;)
[10:22] <nalioth> nubbe: using BP can cause your machine to not upgrade at any point
[10:22] <citrus_> does anyone nottice a realy performance boost using the 64 bit distro compared to the i386 distro on the same system?
[10:22] <majikstreet> enno_ the ubuntu cd has a lot of packages on it
[10:22] <sorush20> guys do you think.. I'll be able to start printing by tomorrow...
[10:22] <[koji] > tritium: aint backports an official project now
[10:22] <phanter> majikstreet, how can I enalbe/disable it?
[10:23] <Anton2> citrus_: no.
[10:23] <enno_> majikstreet: yes but how can i search them?
[10:23] <mjr> citrus_, probably not, unless they were measuring :)
[10:23] <chaps0063> matva: talk to who directly?
[10:23] <majikstreet> what do you want to seach, enno_
[10:23] <citrus_> well is it not really worth it for me to use it then?
[10:23] <nalioth> [koji] : it is heading that way rapidly, if not already, but the pkgs are still not "totally safe for use"
[10:23] <majikstreet> phanter: are you using gnome
[10:23] <Burgundavia> [koji] , yes
[10:23] <enno_> majikstreet: the package that contains the ncurses headers
[10:23] <mrson> alguien me puede ayudar, soy nobato en ubuntu
[10:23] <yaaar> anybody good with grub in here?
[10:23] <Disaster_it> ubunuit
[10:24] <phanter> majikstreet, yes
[10:24] <mjr> citrus_, depends
[10:24] <mjr> I use it
[10:24] <majikstreet> phanter: one second
[10:24] <citrus_> why do you like to use it
[10:24] <majikstreet> enno_ hold on let me check what it's called
[10:24] <enno_> yaaar: quite good
[10:24] <yaaar> enno_: well, that's what i thought too until just now ;-)
[10:24] <flogiston> The winesetuptk package is installed bbut i can't start the setup tools for wine...
[10:24] <enno_> yaaar: whats the problem?
[10:25] <yaaar> enno_: my friend had ubuntu on /dev/hdb with win2k on /dev/hda. grub was installed on hda. then he pulled the windows drive and put the ubuntu disk on prim master. so it wouldn't boot, naturally. (more coming)
[10:25] <mjr> mostly just not wanting to waste a good 64-bit computer, and the knowledge that while I wouldn't probably notice the difference without looking at the time, some tasks _would_ be slower with a 32-bit OS, especially the long background ones :)
[10:25] <Anton2> citrus_: There's no downside either, if you don't need binary stuff unavailable for amd64 (drivers, codecs, etc...)
[10:25] <Dr_Fate> LasseL, welp, its getting ready to uninstll the whole damn thing, here goes nothing
[10:25] <mrson> alguien me puede ayudar necesito uns lista de repositores
[10:26] <mrson> ?
[10:26] <raven3x7> i added a new user to my system. then created his home folder. but gnome wont start because it cant create an entry in gconf during log in.. any ideas?
[10:26] <MartenH> How often is Seveas usually around, anyone?
[10:26] <nalioth> mrson: espanol hablamos en #ubuntu-es
[10:26] <mcphail> mjr: How good is the 64 bit support for graphics drivers etc?
[10:26] <yaaar> enno_: so i popped in a gentoo livecd (it was handy), mounted the ubuntu partition, edited menu.lst, changed all the hd1's to hd0's and /dev/hdb's to /dev/hda's, ran grub, did 'root (hd0,0)' 'setup (hd0)' and 'quit' and rebooted......
[10:26] <majikstreet> enno_ if you put the ubuntu cd in  the computer and type apt-get install ncurses*     does it install?
[10:27] <darinlh> pardon but has anyone had an issue with latest firefox update failing "update-mozilla-firefox-chrome: command not found"
[10:27] <raven3x7> correction gnome-panel wont start
[10:27] <citrus_> but theres no wine  or flash plugin ... kinda sad
[10:27] <yaaar> enno_: but when i boot it drops me at a 'grub>' prompt. i can boot by typing 'configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst' ...but otherwise it won't give me my menu
[10:27] <mjr> mcphail, basically good, however, the free DRI 3D drivers don't yet accelerate 32-bit software run on a 64-bit kernel. Don't know about the proprietary offerings.
[10:27] <nJess> hey majikstreet the ndiswrapper was not found
[10:27] <Anton2> mcphail: for proprietary ATI, same as i386
[10:28] <enno_> majikstreet:no
[10:28] <majikstreet> nJess hmm... are your sources setup to go to the cd
[10:28] <majikstreet> enno_ not sure then
[10:28] <mcphail> Anton2: i.e. same driver, or different driver with same performance?
[10:28] <nJess> they shouldn't be
[10:28] <nubbe> tritium, since a full re-install wouldn't kill me, I think I'll brave it anyhow  :)  and again, the genius about the guide is simply the list of stuff u commonly want to do.
[10:28] <raven3x7> noone? hmm
[10:29] <Anton2> mcphail: amd64 version of the same driver.
[10:29] <tritium> nubbe, but it's incorrect
[10:29] <mrson> necesito ayuda
[10:29] <majikstreet> phanter i'm not really familar with gnome but look around in the settings, there should be a clock setting-- in the control center maybe
[10:29] <darinlh> oops sorry just noticed topic "firefox broken" :)
[10:29] <tritium> mrson, #ubuntu-es por favor
[10:29] <mrson> no c ntrar alli
[10:29] <enno_> yaaar: grub can read filesystems at boot time. check if menu.lst exists on the choosen partition?
[10:29] <mcphail> Anton2: thanks. Any knowledge about nVidia (I'm looking for a new system and checking out options)?
[10:30] <majikstreet> quit got to go
[10:30] <yaaar> enno_: obviously it does exist, else it wouldn't boot with 'configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst' no?
[10:30] <Anton2> mcphail: no ;)
[10:30] <nubbe> tritium, ok, do u have some examples somewhere? that would be more powerful than saying #we prefer"  :)
[10:30] <mrson> ya stoy en ubuntu-es
[10:30] <atzucac> hello
[10:30] <mcphail> Anton2: mjr: thanks again
[10:30] <Dr_Fate> better install xfce4 before gnome dies
[10:30] <tritium> nubbe, yes, installing java for one makes no reference to using java-package
[10:30] <Dr_Fate> dependency hell still sucks
[10:31] <tritium> Dr_Fate, not using apt-get?
[10:31] <ColonelKernel> I tried turning off ipv6, I even disabled ipv6 in the kernel, and dns is still roaring slow in ubuntu - is there any fix for this yet?
[10:31] <nubbe> tritium, ok
[10:31] <nubbe> thank u
[10:31] <citrus_> would it be correct for me to say:  the most part about  having 64bit ubuntu  is just to say that you do.   and theres no *visable* difference in speed.   and you have to take a hit for programs like wine and a 64 bit flash plugin and other pkgs.  ??
[10:31] <enno_> yaaar: if you did setup and root at prompt it boots?
[10:32] <nJess> hey
[10:32] <yaaar> enno_: er....i did root and setup from within 'grub' from the booted livecd. then after rebooting it drops me at the grub prompt and i typed configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst to boot
[10:32] <nJess> how do you add apt-get sources?
[10:32] <Dr_Fate> tritium, not well versed in apt-get, I think thats how I broke it lastnight, force installing no depends etc
[10:32] <shekhar> can someone help me... i am having a problem with unresolvable dependencies installing packages in apt/synaptic for qgis...
[10:32] <tritium> Dr_Fate, dpkg by itself doesn't handle dependencies, but apt does.
[10:33] <yaaar> enno_: hmm...that's odd. did those commands again from the prompt it gave at boot, then did reboot, now it seems to work
[10:33] <yaaar> enno_: wonder why that is
[10:33] <enno_> yaaar: try setup / root again at the prompt
[10:34] <yaaar> (see above)
[10:34] <yaaar> thanks
[10:34] <citrus_> Anton2: mjr:      would it be correct for me to say:  the most part about  having 64bit ubuntu  is just to say that you do.   and theres no *visable* difference in speed.   and you have to take a hit for programs like wine and a 64 bit flash plugin and other pkgs.  ??
[10:34] <Dr_Fate> tritium, I wa sjust think, if I remove FF and try to reinstall ubuntu-desktop and gnome, it will pull in FF again, it will work, but it will still be the broken one...I guess i don't care so long as it starts like it used too. Or should I just wait til it gets ficed?
[10:34] <enno_> yaaar: i had same problem some time ago. if it works everything is okay :)
[10:34] <yaaar> cool
[10:34] <djp> anyone know how i get a pund symbol using Open Office?
[10:34] <yaaar> djp: shift+3
[10:34] <djp> pound () symbol!
[10:35] <yaaar> hehehehe
[10:35] <djp> yaar: thanks
[10:35] <tim_> Strange thing happened to me a few weeks ago, not sure how to resolve (or what I did to cause it, if anything). On logging in, I get a pop-up message (this is Ubuntu 5.0.4, if it matters) that said something to the effect of "[$myhostname] 's address could not be found, so some things won't work properly. Log in anyway? Adding the address to /etc/hosts might solve the problem."
[10:35] <tritium> Dr_Fate, I guess that depends on your needs, and how critical they are
[10:35] <Dr_Melectaus> you know the msblast virus, does anyone remember the name of the program that gets rid of it
[10:35] <Dr_Melectaus> sorry im asking in here
[10:35] <Dr_Melectaus> its a windows issue
[10:35] <LasseL> i'd like to advertise a little for a #ubuntu-dk channel for danes
[10:35] <tim_> I logged in anyhow (and have been doing so since then, though I am right now on the dreaded Windows), and most things work fine, BUT ...
[10:35] <djp> yaar: oh sorry, no i do that and all that appears is a light grey box
[10:35] <Dr_Melectaus> but its the machine that bridges the connection to my laptop which runs ubuntu
[10:35] <mrson> alguien me puede ayudar?
[10:35] <tritium> mrson, #ubuntu-es por favor
[10:36] <mrson> tritium como ntro a ubuntu-es?
[10:36] <tim_> I can't do anything that requires root access; I can't sudo either -- says it authentication failure.
[10:36] <LasseL> this channel is getting too huge
[10:36] <enno_> someone knows how can i get libncurses5-dev?
[10:36] <tritium> mrson, /join #ubuntu-es
[10:36] <tim_> I have not played with the password at all, so I wonder what happened ...
[10:36] <shekhar> can someone help me... i am having a problem with unresolvable dependencies installing packages in apt/synaptic for qgis... ubuntu 5.0.4
[10:36] <nubbe> tritium, why do u need java-package to use jre, it isn't crystal clear when reading about it in synaptic? I'll stop bitching real soon  :)
[10:36] <citrus_> well i think i am going back to my 32 ubuntu
[10:36] <mjr> citrus_, visible can mean many things. Do I notice if a long computation takes (say) 10% less time? No, unless I look at the clock :)
[10:36] <tritium> tim_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:37] <mjr> I'm still happy that it's faster, though
[10:37] <tim_> tritium: thanks, will read now.
[10:37] <mrson> tritium, explicame q hago, soy novato primera vez q uso sto
[10:37] <mjr> anyway, do whatever you like
[10:38] <enno_> all: found it sorry for the noise
[10:39] <Dr_Melectaus> you know the msblast virus, does anyone remember the name of the program that gets rid of it
[10:39] <tritium> nubbe, it's the preferred way to install a jre, so that you have a .deb under package management
[10:39] <mrson> alguien me puede explicar los repositores
[10:40] <mcphail> mjr: any problems with java etc on 64 bit version?
[10:40] <chaps0063> Dr_Melectaus: http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.blaster.worm.html
[10:40] <mjr> I mostly use free java, no problems with that
[10:40] <Belutz> tritium: i'm back hehehe...sleepy now... :(
[10:40] <mats> !dvd
[10:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, dvd is There are many good free players for linux. Totem is installed in Ubuntu by default add totem-xine and voila! - Mplayer, XINE, VLC (Cross platform) are also very good. gstreamer-totem
[10:41] <tritium> hi Belutz
[10:41] <mcphail> mjr: i admire your dedication to open source!
[10:41] <Dr_Melectaus> chaps0063, thanks mate
[10:41] <mjr> I'm not that dedicated; I said "mostly" ;)
[10:41] <Belutz> tritium: how do i make my Xchat automatically connecting to freenode.net and automatically join #ubuntu?
[10:41] <nubbe> tritium, I figured something like that when reading the wiki, but that is if u don't want to use backports right? It all comes back to that, then?
[10:41] <tritium> Belutz, go to the server list
[10:42] <x_o1> Anyone here using iPodder for linux?  I cannot get it to work:  "ImportError: No module named players"
[10:42] <tritium> Belutz, open up the ubuntu servers with edit
[10:42] <tritium> and then configure it to auto-connect
[10:42] <Dr_Melectaus> Belutz, when you open it bavigate to freenode on the list, exspand the options and fill out what channels you want it to join when it connects, then tick join on startup
[10:42] <din> Belutz, make some text files with the commands you want in them, then in the server list add the startup command /load -e /path/to/your/file/here
[10:42] <Dr_Melectaus> navigate**
[10:42] <LasseL> x_ol, you need to chmod 644 some file, RTFM
[10:42] <tritium> nubbe, this is only one example.  There are several others.
[10:42] <Dr_Melectaus> expand**
[10:43] <mats> fuck, how do i get my totem og xine to play dvd? is there any libs i need? i have gstreamer-libs
[10:43] <x_o1> LasseL: Which manual?  I read the INSTALL file.
[10:43] <Marupa> I, um, can someone show me how to install ubuntu, if I don't have a CD burner at my disposal?  I've got a 256MB keydrive, but that's it.
[10:43] <Belutz> hmmm wait... i'm confuse LOL
[10:44] <Marupa> (brb, but IM or highlight me, anyway)
[10:44] <benplaut> somebody explain Netinstall to Marupa
[10:44] <Belutz> tritium, Dr_Melectaus, din : ok, i got it... thx :D
[10:44] <tritium> :)
[10:44] <xliu> does anyone know what is mdf file?
[10:45] <bur[n] er> anyone have a more recent .deb of rhythmbox than in breezy or hoary?
[10:45] <Dr_Melectaus> np Belutz
[10:45] <shekhar> help
[10:45] <bur[n] er> xliu: google?
[10:45] <xliu> ok
[10:45] <Belutz> btw, i'm applying to be an IT lecturer, i wish they hire me :D
[10:46] <LasseL> x_ol, well it isn't excactly obvious if you don't google it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodder
[10:46] <nubbe> tritium, ok, we'll just have to disagree then, thanks for taking the time tho, I appreciate it
[10:46] <bur[n] er> thechitowncubs: I'm kind of thinking we'll have to build it ourselves if we want ti ;)
[10:47] <thechitowncubs> Ya, I'm not very good at that :/
[10:47] <thechitowncubs> do you know where do get the source?
[10:47] <LasseL> x_o1, hint me with some good podcasts when you get that far :P
[10:47] <Marupa> anyone?
[10:47] <x_o1> LasseL: You were right, "sudo chmod 644 /opt/iPodder/ipodder/players.py" was the ticket
[10:47] <tritium> nubbe, it's not just me you're in disagreement with
[10:47] <Strife[lab] > Marupa: you need a CD
[10:48] <Marupa> I don't have access to a CD burner.  it's on the downed linux computer.
[10:48] <LasseL> x_o1, that error message just gave it away :/
[10:48] <bur[n] er> thechitowncubs: http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/development.html
[10:48] <qt2> crap, i deleted the default ubuntu gnome panel, is there a way to recover it...?
[10:48] <Marupa> but, I do have a gentoo livecd....
[10:48] <Strife[lab] > Marupa: I'm pretty sure there's no ubuntu version that can be run on anything less than a CD... there are however plenty of other distrubutions that you can boot from a pen drive, floppy drive, etc.
[10:49] <DaSkreech> What should I do if Synaptic stops upgrading anything?
[10:49] <LasseL> qt2, install "ubuntu-desktop" ?
[10:49] <othernoob> hey where can i find a list of supported hardware?
[10:49] <xliu> how to open a mdf file in Ubuntu ?
[10:49] <Marupa> I just want some form of graphical linux on my system,.
[10:49] <Strife[lab] > bur[n] er: well, you could remove all of your gnome settings
[10:49] <bur[n] er> Strife[lab] : ?
[10:49] <chaps0063> xliu: what is it?
[10:49] <Strife[lab] > Marupa: http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php
[10:49] <Marupa> and pen drive is the only thing I can use.
[10:50] <nubbe> tritium, I know, and if I ran a company or other important stuff, I would prolly not use backports but I don't
[10:50] <Marupa> Strife[lab] :  I only have a 256MB pendrive.
[10:50] <Strife[lab] > bur[n] er: if you mean that accidentally right clicked on the panel and selected "delete this panel...", then you can simply remove all your gnome settings, and it should reappear.... but then all your other settings should be gone
[10:50] <LasseL> Marupa, what is wrong with your linux install again?
[10:50] <Strife[lab] > Marupa: note that many of those can fit on something smaller
[10:50] <tritium> nubbe, the issue isn't backports, really.  It's the lack of explanatory guidance for new users, misinformation, and bad or incorrect advice.
[10:51] <Strife[lab] > Marupa: e.g., Damn Small Linux
[10:51] <Marupa> ....OK, let me reexplain again.
[10:51] <citrus_> yeah i noticed no speed difference in ubuntu 64
[10:51] <tim_> Marupa: are you in the U.S.?
[10:51] <Strife[lab] > Marupa: it's possible to boot from usb drives, you know...  I dont' know how to do it, exactly, but it IS possible
[10:52] <qt2> LasseL, that doesnt seem to work... o.O;
[10:52] <Crafty-Catcher> Hi does anyone here has a lot of patience ;) to help me with setting up my raid lvl 1 on two 10 GB HDDs hda1 == system; hdb1 should be the mirror - it still doesn't want to work after i read all google search results, but aditionaly i have to say that i am not that experience in handling linux
[10:52] <signius> does anyone here use any snmp tools ?
[10:52] <Marupa> I tried to install gentoo, but it hated my computer, and I hated it.  My computer has a DVD burner on it, but I can't use it because it is down.  I only have a 256MB usb keydrive, but I also have a gentoo livecd, which can get on the net.  I want ubuntu on my system, however.
[10:52] <citrus_> i used gentoo for 2 years
[10:52] <Strife[lab] > Marupa: what does "it is down" mean?
[10:52] <qt2> I deleted the default ubuntu gnome panel, is there a way to recover it...?
[10:52] <citrus_> bitch to install
[10:52] <Strife[lab] > does that mean you can't even boot your computer?
[10:52] <shekhar> HELP
[10:53] <bur[n] er> thechitowncubs: a newer version is in breezy, but it has libc6 dependencies which make it hard to use with hoary
[10:53] <Marupa> down, meaning I can't get to the burner, but the computer works.
[10:53] <citrus_> pkg managment rox but debian is better unless you want to compile everything from source
[10:53] <citrus_> took me 3 days to have kde and everything workin
[10:53] <Strife[lab] > Marupa: well pssht, that's just a matter of configuring everything correctly
[10:53] <Strife[lab] > Marupa: man cdrecord might help
[10:53] <shekhar> can anyone help me with installing packages in apt which seem to have dependencies on stuff not in the repositories.. namely qgis
[10:53] <Marupa> ...