[00:02] <micahg> asac: bug 397211
[00:08] <BUGabundo> hehehe
[00:18] <asac> micahg: answered ;)
[00:18] <micahg> ty
[00:20] <asac> anyone used the gtk-vnc plugin at some point?
[00:20] <BUGabundo> nop
[00:22] <asac> wasnt there kind of a "my screen mirroring" vnc thing somewhere?
[00:23]  * asac intalls x11vnc
[00:25] <asac> good that works
[00:30] <fta> 69/310/1
[00:32] <fta> asac, anything special to do to ship a setuid binary in a package?
[00:34] <asac> ask on -devel ;)
[00:34] <asac> i would think no
[00:34] <asac> but that sholdnt be done for normal apps
[00:35] <fta> it's not a normal app
[00:38] <asac> whast so "special" ;)
[00:38] <asac> just kidding
[00:38] <asac> i dont think something special is required. if its root setuid entering mir would definitly trigger a fully grown security review ;)
[00:39] <asac> good- gtk-vnc ported
[00:40] <asac> Xulrunner - universe - port package miro: TODO
[00:40] <asac> Xulrunner - universe - port package gnome-web-photo: TODO
[00:40] <asac> Xulrunner - universe - port package couchdb: TODO
[00:40] <asac> let me do couchdb
[00:56] <asac> ineresting
[00:56] <asac> my gtk-vnc ppa upload got a i386 builder in 30 minutes or so
[00:58] <fta> maybe there's an unfair queuing
[01:05] <asac> gnome-web-phoo error
[01:06] <fta> i hope they add a lot more boxes soon
[01:06] <asac> too bad ... there is no GetDocumentTitle in any xul 1.9.1 header
 d'oh! http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/ppa-queues2.png
 it's bad as it means it's impossible to produce a single daily
 when a given package finally gets built (after 24h+), it ftbfs with "State: Failed to upload" because the next version is already
[01:09] <asac> i think the daily trend is still down ;)
[01:09] <asac> meaning, more get buld per day than not ;)
[01:18] <asac> guess same bug for gnome-web-phtot
[01:18] <asac> lp says it is building on i386
[01:18] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ffox35/+build/1111302
[01:18] <asac> hmm
[01:18] <asac> its really building
[01:18] <asac> wtf ;)
[01:19] <asac> lets see if it just disappears in a few minutes again
[01:19] <asac> hmm gtk-vnc was really build as well
[01:19]  * asac confused
[01:20] <asac> maybe "main" packages have a higher score than univers?
[01:20] <asac> could be ... at least for real archive its that way i think
[01:21] <asac> the initial build score is slightly higher for main afaik
[01:31] <fta> couchdb failed
[01:33] <asac> huh?
[01:33] <fta> got 2: https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ffox35/+build/1111274/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.couchdb_0.9.0-2ubuntu3.ffox35_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[01:33]  * BUGabundo fta is faster then email
[01:33] <BUGabundo> lol
[01:33] <asac> pango bustage?
[01:34] <asac> or did i mess it up
[01:34] <asac> hmm
[01:35] <asac> odd
[01:53] <asac> ok couchdb really needed some js porting ;)
[01:53] <asac> guess i locally tried agains 1.9 and didnt notice
[01:55] <micahg> asac, there's a bug that works for me on ff3.5, but the OP hasn;t responded in months
[01:55] <micahg> bug 257649
[01:59] <asac> micahg: invalidate
[02:00] <asac> micahg: ping him
[02:00] <asac> maybe he had no chance to try jaunty yet
[02:01] <asac> if he doesnt reply at all, you can invalidate
[02:01] <asac> ok
[02:01]  * asac off
[02:01] <asac> cu tomorro
[02:01] <micahg> thanks asac
[02:01] <micahg> ngiht
[08:10] <indus> hi
[08:11] <indus> this is probably extremely minor,but
[08:12] <indus> when we start firefox 3.5,the icon similar to the windows hourglass icon is active even though firefox has started
[08:12] <indus> for about 5 seconds
[08:12] <indus> whats with that
[10:52] <gnomefreak> asac: what is Eeebuntu? and is it supported officially by us
[11:42] <gnomefreak> asac: do we want to or even have to support packages in Eeebuntu?
[11:43] <asac> gnomefreak: depends
[11:44] <asac> if they find bugs that are also in ubuntu, yes.
[11:44] <gnomefreak> lightning bug only on Eeebuntu
[11:44] <asac> but only if it comes from eeebuntu devs actually
[11:44] <asac> gnomefreak: show it me and i can tell
[11:45] <gnomefreak> ok let me see if i can find it
[11:46] <gnomefreak> asac: bug 397209
[11:50] <gnomefreak> its only in Eeebuntu so im thinking no we dont
[11:56] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe the guy has upstream .xpi installed?
[11:57] <asac> commented
[11:59] <gnomefreak> thanks i forgot about that option
[11:59] <gnomefreak> i think i just found the problem with that damn script now to try it
[12:00] <asac> which script are you talking about?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> rsync
[12:00] <gnomefreak> nope its right
[12:03] <gnomefreak> the command works but the same command in script fails with
[12:03] <gnomefreak> rsync: link_stat "/daily/current/karmic/alternate-i386.iso" (in cdimage) failed: No such file or directory (2)
[12:03] <gnomefreak> i guess i kinow what im working on today :)
[12:04] <asac> ah
[12:04] <asac> i dont know
[12:04] <asac> to advanced for my basic downloading skills
[12:04] <gnomefreak> :) that makes 2 of us, hell i didnt know bash had a do_download() function
[12:07]  * gnomefreak stands by #'s should not afect the script running
[12:09] <gnomefreak> (code 23) at main.c(1524) is odd to me since this is a bash script (sort of simple)
[12:12] <gnomefreak> maybe these comments do affect the script
[12:21] <gnomefreak> ok bash shouldnt care if use space or tab mix like python does so that cant be it
[12:22] <gnomefreak> holy shit i think i fixed it
[12:22] <gnomefreak> i did i did!!!!!
[12:22] <asac> heh
[12:22] <asac> congrats
[12:23] <gnomefreak> it _was_ the spaces should only have 1 not the the others in scriopt
[12:23] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks
[12:23] <gnomefreak> s/the/like
[12:23]  * gnomefreak tied up for next 1hou or so
[12:25] <gnomefreak> asac: the 3.6 X bug you were working on how do you reproduce it?
[12:25] <asac> gnomefreak: you mean the BadWindow ?
[12:25] <asac> i am not sure
[12:25] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:25] <asac> it happens at some point
[12:25] <asac> and then i cannot start firefox anymore
[12:25] <asac> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=581526
[12:25] <gnomefreak> asac: disable ubufox
[12:26] <gnomefreak> im not getting errors
[12:26] <asac> Bug 220628
[12:26] <asac> yeah
[12:26] <asac> it seems to dpeend on sometihng odd
[12:26] <asac> most likely graphics driver related
[12:27] <asac> bugabundo sees it too
[12:27] <asac> i have to ask him about his chipset
[12:27] <gnomefreak> i have nvidia 173 if that helps
[12:28] <gnomefreak> just running it doesnt fail for me
[12:28] <gnomefreak> asac: you or him have compiz enabled by chance?
[12:29] <asac> yes
[12:29] <gnomefreak> try for the hell of it to disable it
[12:30]  * gnomefreak doesnt use compiz. too many problems
[12:34] <gnomefreak> md5sum is wrong in the updated version of iso but my file is right. I balme script again
[12:36] <gnomefreak> seems its missing the first # only
[12:36] <gnomefreak> the site shows it right site matches mine
[12:36] <gnomefreak> oh well cant complain it still works :)
[12:38] <gnomefreak> ok next problem, just dont have one that i know of atm
[12:46] <gnomefreak> !info gdm karmic
[12:46] <gnomefreak> still ubunt4
[12:47] <gnomefreak> !info mautilus karmic
[12:47] <gnomefreak> !info matilus karmic
[12:47] <gnomefreak> !info nautilus karmic
[12:47] <gnomefreak> ohhh
[12:48] <gnomefreak> asac: anything i have pending that you know of or can i attempt another karmic install?
[12:49] <asac> no go ahead
[12:49] <asac> ;)
[12:49] <asac> dont loose your data
[12:51] <gnomefreak> im badcking up right now
[12:53] <asac> gnomefreak: i am sending a mail to flashgot author about the licensing. i will CC you (no need to reply)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> you gotta love ubuntuone :)
[12:53] <asac> heh
[12:53] <asac> i didnt test it yet (shame on me)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> asac: thanks what is wrong with it?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> its in top level dir IIRC
[12:54] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:54] <asac> well. its better to have the licensing in all files
[12:54] <asac> expecially there a re a few files that have a license header
[12:54] <asac> which doesnt say its GPL
[12:54] <asac> just (c) ...
[12:54] <gnomefreak> i still have to get around to looking more into the firegpg clean bug and need to fix typo too but i will do that later once install is done and works
[12:55] <asac> which usually means its non-free
[12:55] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[12:55] <gnomefreak> good point
[12:58]  * gnomefreak not likeing ubuntuone anymore
[12:58] <gnomefreak> :)
[13:06]  * gnomefreak feels stupid as shit now. i was doing things the hard way today
[13:54]  * gnomefreak going to be getting hate mail, glad i will be installing again and not cheaking email
[13:59] <Lantizia> Hey, how come 3.5 still doesn't get it's real logo?
[13:59] <asac> !ff35
[14:00] <asac> !ff35 | Lantizia
[14:01] <Lantizia> yeah that's a really lame reason
[14:01] <Lantizia> I'll adapt the firefox-3.0-branding package to work for 3.5
[14:03] <gnomefreak> Lantizia: since we already have a firefox branding firefox-3.5 official branding will just confuse users. well hell its doing that now
[14:03] <Lantizia> you already have package firefox-3.5-branding
[14:03] <Lantizia> but it does very little
[14:03] <gnomefreak> Lantizia: its not the official branding
[14:03] <Lantizia> i realise
[14:04] <gnomefreak> ok its that time again. Ill be back in a few hours i hope
[14:29] <fta> d'oh! "Estimated repository size: 45.4 GiB (100.00%) of 39.6 GiB"
[15:09] <bluekuja> asac, how can I create a bzr bd config file?
[15:10] <asac> bluekuja: .bzr-builddeb/defaulf.conf
[15:10] <bluekuja> so I create the hidden file .bzr-builddeb
[15:10] <bluekuja> * hidden folder
[15:10] <bluekuja> do you have an example of the default.conf?
[15:11] <asac> hidden folder
[15:11] <asac> a bunch of firefox-extension branches have that
[15:11] <asac> debian/patches/re-libtoolize-karmic.dpatch
[15:11] <asac> http://code.launchpad.net/firefox-extensions
[15:11] <asac> check out a fewq
[15:11] <bluekuja> k, ty
[15:14] <bluekuja> asac, I need bzr bd -S to work
[15:14] <bluekuja> in the default.conf file
[15:15] <bluekuja> should I just add a rule saying merge = true
[15:15] <bluekuja> for it?
[15:15] <bluekuja> so that with using bzr bd -S will invoke merge as well
[15:17] <asac> bluekuja: merge = true + export-upstream-revision + export-upstream
[15:17] <asac> makes most sense
[15:17] <bluekuja> ok
[15:18] <asac> bluekuja: for upstrem-revision use the long revision you see in bzr log --show-ids
[15:18] <asac> thats a worldwide unique revision
[15:18] <asac> e.g. even works after merging etc. while revision numbers wouldnt
[15:18] <bluekuja> ok
[15:18] <bluekuja> let me see
[15:18] <asac> so look at upstream branch like bzr log -l1 --show-ids
[15:18] <asac> then you pick the long id and use revid:xxxxxxxxx
[15:19] <asac> in the export-upstream-revision field
[15:19] <asac> usually you bump that revision field either when merging in new upstream branch or when bumpng upstream versio nin changelog (in case its a debian only tree)
[15:19] <asac> for full source trees export-upstream = .
[15:19] <asac> works
[15:19] <asac> you wont need to maintaina .upstream branch then
[15:19] <asac> because you can always extract the upstream branch from the uubuntu/debian one
[15:20] <bluekuja> so with new upstream releases
[15:20] <bluekuja> I bumb it
[15:22] <asac> right. i would do a bzr merge ...
[15:22] <asac> then change the revision id
[15:22] <asac> and then commit it as "merged new upstream
[15:22] <asac> - adjust .bzr-builddeb/default.conf accordingly"
[15:22] <asac> or something
[15:22] <bluekuja> why merging?
[15:22] <asac> (and you would add new changelog entry too
[15:22] <bluekuja> I have two different branches
[15:22] <asac> bluekuja: if you have a full source branch you need to merge new upstream
[15:22] <bluekuja> for debian and upstream
[15:23] <asac> if you have a debian only branch
[15:23] <asac> then you dont need to merge
[15:23] <bluekuja> yes
[15:23] <bluekuja> I have debian only
[15:23] <bluekuja> plus upstream only
[15:23] <asac> yeah then thats option too i mentioned above
[15:23] <asac> so in your cse i would do dch -vNEW-UPSTREAM-1 -DUNRELEASED
[15:23] <asac> and change revision
[15:23] <asac> id
[15:23] <asac> and commit
[15:23] <asac> "new upstream"
[15:23] <asac> - adjust .bzr-builddeb/default.conf accordingly
[15:23] <asac> or something like that
[15:24] <bluekuja> with the new revid
[15:24] <bluekuja> ok
[15:24] <asac> yeah
[15:24] <asac> bluekuja: you can test whether it works by just running bzr bd
[15:24] <bluekuja> yep
[15:24] <asac> if done properly it should automatically export orig.tar.gz from upstream branch etc.
[15:24] <asac> yeah
[15:24] <asac> good
[15:26] <bluekuja> asac, with dch -vNEW-UPSTREAM-1 -DUNRELEASED
[15:26] <bluekuja> I'll get a new revision with distro name set as unreleased
[15:26] <bluekuja> it that really needed?
[15:26] <bluekuja> or I can just get the rev id of the last revision
[15:28] <asac> bluekuja: yes. you first say "new upstream release" and leave it at UNRELEASED
[15:28] <asac> then when you have everythingy you want to change
[15:28] <asac> you do a single commit with just dch -r -Dkarmic/unstable or wahtehver
[15:28] <bluekuja> I've already did that
[15:28] <bluekuja> I mean
[15:28] <asac> saying "RELEASE NEW-UPSTREAM-1 to debian/unstable"
[15:28] <bluekuja> the changelog is ready for the upload
[15:28] <bluekuja> with all stuff in it
[15:28] <asac> thats usually wrong because you want to do stuff one by one
[15:29] <bluekuja> yes
[15:29] <asac> whatver its your branch only thing that is important is that you can identify exactly which revision was uploaded
[15:29] <asac> by just looking at changelog
[15:29] <bluekuja> ok
[15:29] <bluekuja> in the default.cong
[15:29] <bluekuja> the rev id
[15:29] <bluekuja> should be taken from the upstream branch rght?
[15:29] <asac> format is revid:REVISION-ID-FROM-BZR-LOG-SHOW_IDS
[15:29] <asac> bluekuja: yes.
[15:29] <bluekuja> ok
[15:30] <asac> you need to commit it to make it work with bzr bd
[15:31] <bluekuja> yep
[15:31] <bluekuja> I get the last commit
[15:32] <bluekuja> to the upstream.source branch
[15:32] <bluekuja> which the mail of the guy who did it
[15:32] <bluekuja> looks ok
[15:34] <bluekuja> asac, one thing
[15:34] <bluekuja> asac, all my debian dir files are on top level
[15:34] <bluekuja> but when I run bzr bd i get an error
[15:35] <bluekuja> coz he tries to find debian/changelog
[15:35] <bluekuja> which doesnt exist (everything on top level)
[15:35] <bluekuja> do you know what can i do?
[15:36] <asac> that works for me
[15:36] <asac> most likely your merge = True has wrong syntax
[15:37] <bluekuja> merge = True
[15:37] <bluekuja> export-upstream = .
[15:37] <asac> bluekuja: export-upstream = . is wrong
[15:38] <asac> that would be true if the debian branch has full upstream source merged
[15:38] <asac> you need to point to the upstream branch there
[15:38] <bluekuja> so it will be
[15:38] <bluekuja> ../
[15:38] <bluekuja> right?
[15:38] <asac> bluekuja: .. is wrong
[15:38] <asac> your upstream branch is a branch location
[15:38] <asac> that must always be true
[15:38] <asac> regardless where i check it out
[15:39] <asac> so its the remote location most likely
[15:39] <bluekuja> like http://bzr.something
[15:39] <bluekuja> and so on?
[15:39] <asac> right
[15:39] <bluekuja> ok
[15:39] <asac> your other  branch i looked at had full upstream sources merged
[15:39] <asac> are you sure you have a debian only branch now?
[15:39] <asac> (/me thinkgs so)
[15:40] <bluekuja> no
[15:40] <bluekuja> I still have two branches
[15:40] <bluekuja> one with debian dir only
[15:40] <asac> yeah then its like i said
[15:40] <bluekuja> yep
[15:40] <asac> your default.conf is wrong
[15:40] <asac> [BUILDDEB] needs to be on top
[15:41] <bluekuja> true
[15:41] <bluekuja> damn me
[15:41] <bluekuja> asac, [BUILDDEB]
[15:41] <bluekuja> merge = True
[15:41] <bluekuja> export-upstream = http://bzr.debian.org/gnome-btdownload/debian.source
[15:41] <bluekuja> is what I have now
[15:41] <bluekuja> * upstream.source
[15:41] <asac> the revision is missing
[15:42] <bluekuja> yes, it's there
[15:42] <asac> that will always pull the latest top
[15:42] <bluekuja> didnt paste it
[15:42] <asac> bluekuja: why would debian.source be upstream?
[15:42] <asac> thats wrong
[15:42] <bluekuja> nono
[15:42] <bluekuja> I mean it's export-upstream = http://bzr.debian.org/gnome-btdownload/upstream.source
[15:42] <bluekuja> but still bzr bd fails for the changelog problem
[15:42] <asac> ah
[15:42] <asac> didnt get that *
[15:43] <asac> bluekuja: why is the branch so huge?
[15:43] <asac> did you remove everything at some point=
[15:43] <bluekuja> yes
[15:44] <bluekuja> asac, bzr bd still don't works
[15:44] <bluekuja> for the debian/changelog stuff
[15:44] <bluekuja> {'_preformatted_string': None, 'location': '"debian/changelog"'}
[15:45] <asac> bluekuja: you need to commit stuff first
[15:45] <asac> at least the .bzr-builddeb/ directory needs to be properly committed afaik
[15:45] <asac> bzr bd --merge --export-upstream=http://bzr.debian.org/gnome-btdownload/upstream.source
[15:45] <asac> works for me
[15:46] <asac> so either your .bzr-builddeb/default.conf is still wrong or you didnt commit or your bzr-buildded is broken
[15:47] <bluekuja> --merge works
[15:47] <bluekuja> but bzr bd -S
[15:47] <bluekuja> not
[15:47] <bluekuja> I wanted to have it working
[15:48] <bluekuja> I created the default.conf to prevent me from using bzr bd --merge
[15:48] <bluekuja> but only bzr bd -S only
[15:48] <bluekuja> but adding that config file the merge calling should work
[15:49] <bluekuja> without specifying it
[15:49] <bluekuja> asac, try bzr bd -S
[15:49] <bluekuja> and see if it works for you
[15:51] <bluekuja> asac, seems like that merge = True don't do its work
[15:51] <bluekuja> asac, with bzr bd -S you get the changelog errr
[15:57] <bluekuja> asac, no idea?
[16:03] <bluekuja> asac, looking at HOWTOs, adding merge = true should do the work
[16:03] <bluekuja> but it doesnt for me
[16:03] <bluekuja> omg
[16:58] <asac> bluekuja: i think its a bug. use --merge for now and file a bug against bzr-builddeb maybe
[16:59] <asac> maybe the bug happens because you moved debian/* to toplevel
[16:59] <asac> it doesnt happen for me for normal branches
[17:19] <bluekuja> asac, ok ty
[17:19] <asac> bluekuja: also i noticed that it downloads the upstream release automatically
[17:19] <asac> bluekuja: if you want to use bzr, remove the watch file i guess
[17:20] <asac> or you dont need the upstream branch at all i guess (unless you want to release snapshots)
[17:20] <bluekuja> asac, it's ok, wanted to get the tarball directly from upstream
[17:20] <asac> then you dont need the upstream branch ;)
[17:20] <bluekuja> asac, yeah, that's a right point
[17:20] <asac> and also not the export-* options in default.conf
[17:20] <asac> keep merge
[17:21] <asac> =
[17:21] <bluekuja> yep
[17:21] <asac> in case it works again at some point ;)
[17:21] <bluekuja> I have merge only now
[17:21] <bluekuja> hoping it will work
[17:21] <bluekuja> on the futurr
[17:21] <asac> bluekuja: upgrade your branch please
[17:21] <bluekuja> I already did
[17:21] <asac> bluekuja: most likely just locally
[17:21] <asac> after pushing, do a bzr bind http://...remotelocation
[17:22] <asac> then run bzr upgrade
[17:22] <bluekuja> ok
[17:22] <asac> that will take some time i guess
[17:22] <asac> bluekuja: you can also run bzr bind ssh...
[17:22] <asac> directly
[17:22] <asac> will run a bit though
[17:22] <asac> but its worth it
[17:22] <bluekuja> done
[17:22] <bluekuja> let's see
[17:23] <asac> bluekuja: still not upgraded
[17:23] <asac> try to run upgrade REMOTEURL
[17:24] <bluekuja> bzr: ERROR: Upgrade URL cannot work with readonly URLs.
[17:24] <bluekuja> need ssh
[17:27] <bluekuja> asac, it's upgrading
[17:27] <bluekuja> brb
[17:27] <bluekuja> check it in 5 mins
[17:27] <bluekuja> it should be ok
[17:49] <bluekuja> asac, check now
[17:50] <bluekuja> should be ok
[18:11] <gnomefreak> ok who broke tbird3?
[18:54] <gnomefreak> asac: losing the sender field in tbird3 (on the list of emails) is gone is that our build or is it upstreams?
[19:00] <gnomefreak> asac: before i forget maybe we should have a kde build of ubufox
[19:32] <gnomefreak> my day is just about over i hope
[19:43] <gnomefreak> anyone know if libgdl-1-0 was replaced with something or even just dropped?
[19:44] <gnomefreak> it has no rdepends so im not real sure why it is wanting to be removed
[19:52]  * gnomefreak smokes than email than gone
[22:49] <BUGabundo> lets try this again:
[22:49] <BUGabundo> ola ppl
[23:15] <fta> bonsoir
[23:15] <BUGabundo> gun tag
[23:15] <fta> BUGabundo, is there another gtk2/gnome client for identi.ca? one that crashes less than gwibber?
[23:16] <BUGabundo> hahaahah
[23:16] <BUGabundo> I use XMPP!
[23:16] <BUGabundo> there qock or something
[23:16] <BUGabundo> but that's kde I think
[23:16] <fta> q* sounds kde
[23:17] <fta> yep, don't want that
[23:19] <BUGabundo> XMPP  then!
[23:19] <BUGabundo> or do one NEW
[23:19] <fta> http://mentors.debian.net/cgi-bin/sponsor-pkglist?action=details;package=gwibber
[23:19] <fta> lol
[23:20] <fta> BUGabundo, if i had more time, i'd probably do a fta-os :P
[23:21] <fta> or a million-year of life time
[23:21] <BUGabundo> ahahaah
[23:22] <fta> asac, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Packaging
[23:25] <asac> fta: good ;)
[23:25] <BUGabundo> fta: how about an wiki.ubuntu.com/Google/OS/packaging ?
[23:26] <fta> BUGabundo, how about wiki.ubuntu.com/Google/OS/waiting_for_the_code?
[23:26] <BUGabundo> eheheheheh
[23:41] <fta> BUGabundo, did you try chromium since yesterday?
[23:41] <BUGabundo> no
[23:41] <BUGabundo> trying now
[23:42] <micahg> BUGabundo: have you tried pidgin?
[23:42] <BUGabundo> using it now
[23:42] <BUGabundo> fta: Chromium Dev Build
[23:50] <micahg> ah, you were looking for another xmpp client?
[23:50] <BUGabundo> me??
[23:50] <BUGabundo> now
[23:50] <BUGabundo> fta was
[23:50] <BUGabundo> or another identica client
[23:51] <micahg> asac: the user agent guy mostaly has trouble with microsoft sites and facebook
[23:51] <asac__> jamesh: i uploaded couchdb_0.9.0-2ubuntu3.ffox35.1 (xulrunner 1.9.1 port) to https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ffox35 ... which hopefully will build well.
[23:51] <BUGabundo> micahg: is crap anyway
[23:51] <micahg> BUGabundo: what is?
[23:51] <asac__> jamesh: would be cool if you could verify it tomorrow or when you have time
[23:52] <BUGabundo> micahg: msft
[23:52] <micahg> BUGabundo: indeed
[23:52] <asac__> micahg: hotmail?
[23:52] <asac__> afaik hotmail doesnt even work with the right user agent
[23:52] <micahg> asac__: calendar.live.com and bing
[23:52] <asac__> they refuse to accept firefox + Linux
[23:52] <asac__> but not firefox + windows
[23:52] <asac__> (maybe its fixed now, but it was a big thing)
[23:53] <asac__> at lesat the start page of calendar.live.com doesnt complain
[23:53] <asac__> no access of course ;)
[23:53] <BUGabundo> fta: but why did you ask about chromium?
[23:53] <asac__> bing works
[23:53] <asac__> not sure what wouldnt work
[23:53]  * BUGabundo has never even seem bing page
[23:54] <micahg> asac__
[23:54] <micahg> http://www.bing.com/maps/help/en-us/browsernotsupported.htm?http%3a%2f%2fwww.bing.com%3a80%2fmaps%2f
[23:54] <asac__> well
[23:55] <asac__> i expect that to happen if i go to a "browser not supported" webpage, right?
[23:55] <fta> BUGabundo, to make sure my new sandbox doesn't prevent you to start the browser, as it did for someone
[23:55] <micahg> http://www.bing.com/maps/
[23:56] <micahg> asac__: it doesn't work with FF3.5 User agent either
[23:56] <fta> http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=16363
[23:57] <micahg> asac__: I think we should ignore it...part of a browser being open source is that people can name it whatever they want...i.e. the asac browser :)
[23:58] <BUGabundo> fta: daily 64bits WFM


[01:55] <slangasek> lamont: nope :)
[03:13] <lamont> slangasek: heh.
[03:13] <lamont> how about now?
[03:41]  * lamont bbl
[05:09] <thegodfather> superm1: ping?
[05:09] <superm1> hey
[05:09] <thegodfather> yo
[05:09] <thegodfather> where did you find that Depends: on libnet-upnp-perl?
[05:09] <superm1> its in NEW
[05:09] <thegodfather> i can't even find the package in debian
[05:09] <thegodfather> ok
[05:10] <superm1> i also built it on the mythbuntu PPA
[05:10] <superm1> if you are looking for a binary version
[05:10] <superm1> until it clears NEW
[05:10] <thegodfather> what's the mythtv PPA?
[05:10] <superm1> edge.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive
[05:10] <thegodfather> thanks
[05:11] <thegodfather> hmmmm
[05:11] <thegodfather> why did you make a perl module Arch: any ?!?!?
[05:11] <jdong> pfft beta tester elitism ;-)
[05:11] <superm1> argh that's a good point
[05:11] <superm1> it shouldn't be should it....
[05:11] <superm1> whoops :)
[05:12] <thegodfather> ok i found it somewhere else :)
[05:12] <superm1> where?
[05:14] <thegodfather> something is wrong in the upgrade
[05:14] <thegodfather> now i have 2 backends processes running
[05:14] <superm1> how is that possible?
[05:14] <superm1> it stops them before starting the package upgrade
[05:14] <thegodfather> ops no sorry
[05:14] <thegodfather> misread
[05:15] <thegodfather> superm1: http://debian.slimdevices.com/pool/main/libn/libnet-upnp-perl
[05:15] <superm1> wonder why that was never brought into debian though...
[05:15] <superm1> well i fixed the build so its arch all
[05:22] <lamont> well.  that was fun.  not.
[05:33] <thegodfather> lamont: ?
[05:33] <lamont> thegodfather: re-iped the house
[05:33] <thegodfather> lamont: ehhe... if you want to have fun, 2nd week of March i am going to empty/clean/fill/rewire my office :))
[05:34] <lamont> heh
[05:34] <lamont> I'm glad I'm too far away to come play
[05:35] <thegodfather> lamont: with the amount of work that needs to be done i am almost dealing to play tickets for volunteers :)
[05:37] <lamont> hey
[05:37] <lamont> heh
[05:37] <thegodfather> before i had the rack it was a 3 days job to empty clean refill
[05:37] <thegodfather> now i expect to take at least a week
[05:53] <Chipzz> \
[05:54] <ion_> /
[05:55] <persia> |
[05:55] <Fujitsu> -
[05:56] <RAOF> \
[06:04] <ion_> fujitsu: More like a – :-)
[06:06] <persia> ー works too
[06:08] <ion_> :-)
[06:59] <warp10> Good morning
[10:24] <Tonio_> hi everyone
[11:07] <thegodfather> superm1: still around?
[11:15] <thegodfather> hmm something is _NOT_ right
[11:15] <thegodfather> pitti: ping?
[11:16] <thegodfather> pitti: looks like something is wrong.. check this out:
[11:16] <thegodfather> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/mythplugins/0.21.0~fixes15967-0ubuntu1
[11:16] <thegodfather> pitti: published 3 days ago
[11:16] <thegodfather> pitti: there are no binaries on archive.ubuntu.com.. at least not all of them.. and the strange thing is that i can see ppc binaries there that are not supposed to be there at all
[11:17] <thegodfather> pitti: not sure if it's a mirroring problem or archive admin or a combo
[11:17] <thegodfather> elmo: ^^ perhaps you want to check this one too.. just in case
[11:19] <persia> There's been a strange dearth of updates for a couple days: it might not just be that package.
[11:21] <thegodfather> persia: indeeed... it's easier for the to track something spotted :)
[11:35] <Fujitsu> thegodfather: a.u.c isn't syncing from drescher for some reason. The reason that the other binaries are there is that the i386 set was in NEW, so was published a couple of days after the rest.
[11:36] <thegodfather> superm1: btw.. for all the plugins, you really want Depends: libmyth = version and not >=
[11:36] <Fujitsu> cprov confirmed this morning that drescher's copy of the archive is fine.
[11:36] <thegodfather> Fujitsu: ok
[11:37] <Nafallo> Fujitsu: it's not a problem with archive most likely.
[11:37] <Nafallo> Fujitsu: gb.archive sees the same thing.
[11:37] <thegodfather> Nafallo: gb.archive rsync's from archive
[11:37] <thegodfather> so if archive is broken all mirrors are
[11:37] <thegodfather> what matters is that dresher is ok
[11:38] <thegodfather> that excludes a bug in LP publisher
[11:38] <Nafallo> thegodfather: wrong. the official mirrors rsyncs securely from internal machines.
[11:38] <Nafallo> and from each other.
[11:38] <thegodfather> Nafallo: no, the official mirrors don't rsync from drescher
[11:39]  * Fujitsu presumes there's something else that syncs from drescher, which the mirrors sync from.
[11:39] <Nafallo> thegodfather: but from other internal machines? you're not saying every mirror on the planet rsyncs from one machine that people as well use in sources.list are you? :-/
[11:40] <thegodfather> Nafallo: archive.u.c is a pool of machines and there are some dedicated to official mirrors
[11:40] <thegodfather> if the main rsync that pushes to this pool is broken
[11:40] <thegodfather> all mirrors are brokn
[11:40] <Nafallo> right...
[11:41] <thegodfather> so why am I wrong according to you?
[11:41] <Nafallo> not any more :-)
[11:41] <Nafallo> just that archive was a single machine last time I checked :-)
[11:42] <thegodfather> Nafallo: when was that? at warty release time?
[11:42] <thegodfather> or when there was a security emergency where we pull off all the mirrors
[11:43] <Nafallo> thegodfather: hehe. not sure mate :-)
[11:43] <Nafallo> quite a while ago anyway.
[12:54] <LimCore> hello
[12:54] <LimCore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnupg/+bug/15485
[12:54] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 15485 in gnupg "kmail don't ask the phrase for gpg-encrypted mails" [Medium,Fix released]
[12:54] <LimCore> I hit this bug today, should I reopen it?
[12:54] <LimCore> on 7.10 amd64
[13:11] <stgraber> ogra_cmpc, ogra, cjwatson: Is there any ISO available for Edubuntu with the last seed/germinate changes ? (the newest I see on cdimage is from the 14th)
[14:03] <cjwatson> stgraber: it's broken right now for reasons I haven't finished debugging, since I made the major changes on Thursday and then was off sick on Friday. I'll look into it on Monday if nobody beats me to it.
[14:04] <cjwatson> stgraber: BTW you should always look into the CD build logs first
[14:04] <cjwatson> stgraber: start at http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/
[15:13] <pranith> why has the always on top feature been removed in 7.10?
[15:16] <achilles> pranith: has it?
[15:16]  * achilles still has it
[15:18] <pranith> achilles, under which menu item do u have it?
[15:19] <pranith> i dont find it in view?
[15:20] <achilles> right mouse click?
[15:22] <pranith> oh! :)
[15:22] <pranith> i was searching it there...
[15:22] <pranith> in view..
[15:22] <pranith> thnx
[15:22] <pranith> :)
[16:11] <achilles> pranith: no problem :-)
[19:48] <TheMuso> c
[19:48] <TheMuso> ugh wrong tab
[19:48] <TheMuso> c
[19:48] <TheMuso> gah
[19:50] <ion_>    c
[21:40]  * ion_ sighs at the comments in bug #192310 :-)
[21:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 192310 in hyphen "package openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us None [modified: /var/lib/dpkg/info/openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us.list] failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite `/usr/share/myspell/dicts/hyph_en_US.dic', which is also in package openoffice.org-hyphenation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/192310
[21:53] <Adri2000> icedax is a binary package in universe, but its source package cdrkit is in main. I assume it's a bug?
[21:57] <ScottK> Adri2000: Not necessarily.
[22:00] <TheMuso> Adri2000: There are a lot of packages with source in main, and binary in universe.
[22:07] <slangase`> lamont: not then either... you could just ask your question? :)
[22:08] <thom> lamont likes the big build up too much :D
[22:11] <Adri2000> ScottK, TheMuso: and can a package in main suggest a package in universe? if not then there is a bug with cdrkit-doc (main) and icedax (universe)
[22:12] <ScottK> Adri2000: IIRC suggest yes, recommend I don't think so, depend definitely not.
[22:12] <jpatrick> what a hostname
[22:13] <ScottK> jpatrick: Depending on the context it is either the machinename or the fully qualified name.
[22:13] <ScottK> e.g. mail or mail.example.com
[22:13] <Adri2000> ScottK: ok
[22:13] <jpatrick> ScottK: either way ;-)
[22:39] <TheMuso> c
[22:39] <TheMuso> ugh wrong tab
[22:52] <luisbg>  ROFL at Daniel's photo in planet!!!


[12:40] <robotgeek> some people just can't get a joke
[12:41] <highvoltage> robotgeek: please share
[12:41] <robotgeek> highvoltage: when i replied that i "speelchecked" the wiki page, i get a email saying how i should spellcheck my email
[12:42] <highvoltage> hehe
[12:42] <robotgeek> well, i'll stick a smiley in there next time, or put it in quotes
[12:42] <highvoltage> people are strange.
[12:42] <crimsun> nah, just make it even more blaringly obvious that you're being sarcastic ;)
[12:43] <highvoltage> they jump to a conclusion and tent to be too lazy to think different scenarios through.
[12:43] <robotgeek> well, it was funny. :P
[01:01] <mdke> evening
[01:02] <rob> hi mdke
[01:04] <mdke> yo
[04:04] <LaserJock> hi mdke
[04:05] <mdke> hi LaserJock
[04:08] <mgalvin> LaserJock: i was just reading through some of the packaging guide, great job dude!
[04:09] <mdke> do any of you use pyblosxom?
[04:09] <LaserJock> mgalvin: thank, quite a bit of it was taken from othere peoples work so I can't take complete credit for it
[04:10] <mgalvin> still, it has a good flow to it and is easy to read, very nice :)
[04:10] <LaserJock> I hope so
[04:11] <mgalvin> mdke: nope, i have been using wordpress, works well
[04:11] <LaserJock> and I really think that the edgy version will be much better
[04:11] <mgalvin> cool, hopefully by then i will be able to get back into more docteam work
[04:11] <mdke> mgalvin: I wanted something without having to figure out mysql
[04:12] <mgalvin> wordpress is *super simple* to install
[04:12] <mgalvin> you don't ever touch mysql directly
[04:13] <mgalvin> well, not totally true, i think you need to create a user iirc
[04:13] <mgalvin> meh, they all do their job well
[04:14] <mdke> pyblosxom is really nice, although the error messages when it fails to work are appallingly opaque
[04:19] <rob> heh
[04:20] <rob> sleep deprivation makes you do odd things sometimes
[04:23] <LaserJock> ugg, I've been at school 12 hrs now :/
[04:23] <rob> hehe I have a long weekend :)
[04:27] <mdke> here too, it's a holiday on monday
[04:30] <rob> Labour day on Monday for us
[04:34] <mdke> we don't have any reason for our holidays here
[04:34] <mdke> in some places they celebrate stuff, religious or otherwise
[04:34] <mdke> here it's just "meh, can't be arsed"
[04:34] <LaserJock> heh, what about that Guy Falks day or something
[04:34] <mdke> I'm not sure that's a holiday tho :/
[04:34] <mdke> dunno
[05:08] <robotgeek> hmm, i shud email jdub again, 3rd time is the charm
[05:10] <mdke> keep trying, he's hard to track down
[05:10] <mdke> ping him incessantly here too
[05:10] <robotgeek> i've never found him on irc
[05:11] <mdke> heh
[05:17] <mdke> night all
[05:18] <robotgeek> night mdke
[05:57] <Madpilot> hi jsgotangco
[05:57] <jsgotangco> Madpilot: hi!
[05:58] <Madpilot> interesting emails from Mr. Tangye, yes?
[05:58] <jsgotangco> Madpilot: part reality, part troll
[05:58] <jsgotangco> people expect too much from Ubuntu IMO
[05:59] <Madpilot> yeah - the email where he basically says, "I started out offensive to see how people would react" was... entertaining...
[05:59] <jsgotangco> i'll have a quick bite
[06:00] <jsgotangco> Madpilot: can you look into my Ubuntu Food spec hahahaha
[06:00] <Madpilot> huh?
[06:00] <robotgeek> replied to him
[06:00] <jsgotangco> its not meant to be taken seriously (the food spec)
[06:00] <jsgotangco> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFoodProductSpecification
[06:01] <jsgotangco> although I bet JaneW would want a BOF for this hahaha
[06:02] <robotgeek> lol
[06:03] <robotgeek> i wonder why people think that someone abuses them, they will be friendly to them.
[06:05] <Madpilot> jsgotangco, cool spec!
[06:05] <rob> Madpilot, he emailed me off list, I suspect thats why we haven't seen the second and third part yet
[06:06] <Madpilot> 2nd part got posted earlier in the part 1 thread, actually
[06:06] <rob> ah
[06:06] <rob> took him a while at least :)
[06:07] <Madpilot> there's also a large addition to the /talk page of the BetterWiki page
[06:07] <rob> heh
[06:07] <rob> hmm I don't seem to have gotten the 2 part
[06:08] <rob> some crap on "customer focus" though
[06:10] <robotgeek> the /talk on betterwikidocs has nice ideas, but there's only so much time in the world :)
[06:11] <rob> I think I'm just going to auto-delete email from him if he keeps up the trolling
[06:11] <Madpilot> nah, just ask where his patches for the stuff in trunk are ;)
[06:12] <Madpilot> you know, the super professional, amazingly complete docs he's going to pull out of... somewhere... to show us amateurs how it's done...
[06:13] <jsgotangco> Madpilot: show us the code haha
[06:13] <robotgeek> it's like on the forums, "how to make Desktop better" discussion, degrades into a discussion into flash/codecs issue
[06:13] <jsgotangco> gahh i really hate firefox
[06:14] <robotgeek> konqueror for everyone. yay!
[06:14] <rob> show us the code is exactly right
[06:14] <jsgotangco> robotgeek: i've always been an epiphany user but this is a new Beta 2
[06:15] <robotgeek> jsgotangco: hmm, i think i will bite the bullet and download the ubuntu live cd too :P
[06:15] <Madpilot> I'm torrenting the Ubuntu Beta2 LiveCD now
[06:15] <jsgotangco> robotgeek: the text-install beta 2 didn't change from beta1
[06:15] <jsgotangco> beta 2 is mostly fixes for ubiquity
[06:16] <robotgeek> jsgotangco: i havent tried ubuntu dapper at all
[06:16] <jsgotangco> robotgeek: doh
[06:19] <robotgeek> jsgotangco: where is it on cdimage.ubuntu.com?
[06:20] <Madpilot> robotgeek, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-April/000072.html
[06:20] <robotgeek> thanks Madpilot
[06:27] <jsgotangco> call me old school but I'm sticking to text-install :)
[06:27] <Madpilot> heh
[06:28] <Madpilot> if I had a spare machine, I'd try espresso/whatever it's called today, but I don't, so...
[06:29] <jsgotangco> part 3?
[06:29] <jsgotangco> heh
[06:31] <Madpilot> "I also plan to address this in part 3." - um, it's a direct effect of the six month release cycle + translation support, there isn't much we can "address", AFAIK...
[06:32] <jsgotangco> no i just gave him a reply smackdown for his part 3
[06:33] <Madpilot> that's a polite version of "show us the code" :P
[06:33] <rob> I just shot off something quick along those lines too
[06:35] <rob> umm, mine was right to the point
[06:35] <robotgeek> heh, i don't think he's going to come and write docs for us
[06:36] <rob> robotgeek, thats the whole point :)
[06:37] <rob> eek, stupid spell check
[06:37] <robotgeek> well, this is the first such mail i've seen on the list though
[06:37] <Madpilot> rob, "coarse" vs "course"? ;)
[06:37] <rob> Madpilot, yup
[06:43] <robotgeek> gah, why do all the wiki markups have to be different
[06:51] <jsgotangco> i love this
[06:52] <robotgeek> ah, mystery
[06:53] <robotgeek> everyone loves suspense.
[06:53] <jsgotangco> he speaks as if we're clueless
[06:53] <jsgotangco> brb
[06:57] <Madpilot> gah, Mr. Tangye becomes more arrogant-sounding with every post...
[07:01] <mgalvin> whoa, hey how did my wifes food get there, hehe :)
[07:39] <mgalvin> it sounds like a soap opera ... answerd in part 3, this is kind of amusing
[07:39] <mgalvin> maybe i should stay up for the conclusion
[07:39] <jsgotangco> haha
[07:39] <mgalvin> hey jerome, hows it going dude
[07:39] <jsgotangco> i finally have a long break from work starting next week :)
[07:40] <mgalvin> cool
[07:40] <robotgeek> nice, vacation is always nice
[07:40] <jsgotangco> the next 2 months would be insteresting
[07:40] <robotgeek> from the dept. of redundancy
[07:44] <Madpilot> robotgeek, you mean the Dept. of Redundancy Dept.? ;)
[07:45] <robotgeek> yeah, that. :)
[07:46] <jsgotangco> ive been here since late 2004 and we still get the same kind of email
[07:46] <Madpilot> jsgotangco, which "here" are you talking about?
[07:46] <jsgotangco> -doc
[07:46] <robotgeek> not japanese spam :)
[07:47] <Madpilot> the "I can come swaggering in knowing how to solve all your problems" type emails?
[07:47] <jsgotangco> Madpilot: that too
[07:47] <jsgotangco> robotgeek: the doc list has tons of it heh
[07:48] <robotgeek> jsgotangco: we must have nice spam filters
[07:49] <robitaille> ubuntu mailing lists have human spam filters :)
[07:50] <jsgotangco> we average around 20 - 30 / day for spam involving east asian character sets
[07:51] <robitaille> wow...the ubuntu-ca list average a lot less spam email per day....still annoying but not at that level
[07:53] <Madpilot> -doc is much better known, the email address is all over the place
[07:56] <rob> should have seen the email he just sent to me direct
[07:56] <jsgotangco> heh
[07:56] <rob> "This is offline, for your own good even if you do not realise it."
[07:56] <rob> o k..
[07:56] <jsgotangco> lol
[07:56] <jsgotangco> ok time for a break
[07:56] <Madpilot> wow
[07:56] <jsgotangco> meet the students i am mentoring
[07:56] <jsgotangco> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jsgotangco/136738193/
[07:57] <rob> apparently he has more experience writing documentation than any of us..
[07:58] <rob> or so he says
[07:58] <Madpilot> any links to this wonderful documentation?
[07:58] <rob> I've asked three times now..
[07:58] <rob> none yet :)
[07:59] <Madpilot> jsgotangco, university or HS students?
[07:59] <jsgotangco> uni
[07:59] <jsgotangco> they look like HS to you?
[08:00] <Madpilot> wasn't sure - sometimes I can't tell :P
[08:00] <robotgeek> better to ask than to regret :)
[08:00] <jsgotangco> 2 of them are uber-python coders at their age
[08:00] <Madpilot> ... not going there, robotgeek ;)
[08:01] <robotgeek> Madpilot: :)
[08:58] <robotgeek> night folks
[11:59] <mdke> morning
[12:00] <mdke> holy shit that is a lot of emails
[12:05] <rob> yeah
[12:06] <rob> that david guy just doesn't let up
[12:06] <mdke> no.
[12:07] <rob> I wish he would stop telling us how it should be, and start providing some actual patches instead
[12:07] <rob> maybe I ask too much
[12:08] <mdke> rob: the best approach is to leave it alone, and see if he will contribute in the long term
[12:08] <mdke> don't get personal (see code of conduct)
[12:09] <rob> yeah
[12:09] <rob> he has been mailing me off list trying to stir me up
[12:09] <mdke> it's not difficult to ignore these things
[12:10] <rob> "I spent many hours in the last week, reading the Ubuntu web. I am not clueless."
[12:10] <rob> kind of sums it up
[12:10] <mdke> just avoid replying
[12:11] <rob> I did a couple of times, I've stopped now
[12:11] <rob> you know me :)
[12:11] <mdke> yeah :(
[12:12] <mdke> you allow yourself to get a bit too angry ;-)
[12:12] <rob> hopefully I'll get my wireless sorted out on my lappy (running Dapper) then maybe I'll poke you to reset my access to svn again
[12:13] <rob> going to file a bug report soon I think on it, used to work with Breezy
[12:16] <mdke> okay
[02:03] <highvoltage> mdke: your new site looks nicer
[02:05] <mdke> highvoltage: thank you. I copied it.
[02:05] <highvoltage> :)
[02:05] <highvoltage> i've been giving mine a makeover too yesterday.
[02:06] <highvoltage> i'll add you to my planet too once you've got your blog into your new site :)
[02:08] <mdke> that would be cool, thanks
[02:10] <mdke> someone already replied with a script for importing stuff, I love planet Ubuntu
[02:17] <highvoltage> yeah, i like planet ubuntu too.
[02:46] <JanC> hello
[02:46] <JanC> someone on #ubuntu-nl complains that the link to limewire in the starterguide at http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03s06.html#id2529193 doesn't work anymore
[02:46] <JanC> and he asks whether this will be updated  :)
[02:49] <mdke> JanC: hi. We won't update it for the 5.10 guide, but it has been removed in the 6.06 guide
[02:50] <JanC> hm, it's not possible or too much work to update the guide?
[02:50] <mdke> bit of both
[02:50] <mdke> quite a lot of both :)
[03:40] <highvoltage> 5/win 11
[04:20] <jsgotangco> hi guys
[04:20] <mdke> hi jsgotangco
[04:20] <jsgotangco> hey mdke :) good morning
[04:20] <mdke> morning, how's it going?
[04:22] <jsgotangco> ah just went out today and enjoyed saturday with my daughter after having my usual check up
[04:22] <jsgotangco> do you have plans to go to france?
[04:22] <mdke> nice.
[04:23] <mdke> no plans, no.
[04:23] <mdke> it's pretty unlikely I will go. maybe for a sneaky weekend
[04:23] <jsgotangco> but that's a short plane ride no?
[04:24] <mdke> or 2 and a half hours on the train
[04:24] <jsgotangco> whoa
[04:25] <mdke> yeah, it's close
[04:28] <mdke> can't hurt, if you're free
[04:28] <jsgotangco> that's the problem i have no idea haha
[04:29] <jsgotangco> yeah doesn't hurt even though i'm not geographically near hah
[04:30] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: i guess it'll mean better edubuntu specs
[04:30] <highvoltage> hopefully.
[04:31] <jsgotangco> now to improve my Ubuntu Food Product Spec
[04:31] <jsgotangco> hah
[04:31] <highvoltage> i'm quite keen on expanding to a second cd, ogra doesn't like it much, but i'm sure i'd be able to much better convince him in person.
[04:31] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: you are art.ubuntu.com, right?
[04:31] <jsgotangco> yeah
[04:32] <highvoltage> can we have a gallery there for the food?
[04:32] <jsgotangco> doing a miserable job on it though
[04:32] <highvoltage> don't be so hard on yourself :)
[04:32] <mdke> ah, you've taken over that website?
[04:32] <mdke> what plans do you have for it?
[04:33] <jsgotangco> i have high-level admin rights on it
[04:33] <jsgotangco> i should be doing a spec on it real soon now
[04:33] <mdke> COOL
[04:33] <mdke> whoops, caps
[04:33] <jsgotangco> im also writing a SIP/VoIP spec
[04:34] <jsgotangco> mdke: having karma on art would be cool too
[04:35] <mdke> yay for karma
[04:35] <highvoltage> yeah, people have been writing specs like crazy lately
[04:35] <jsgotangco> heh
[04:36] <jsgotangco> ok i need to reboot to windows to do some opencd hacks
[04:36] <jsgotangco> brb
[04:37] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: do you have a draft of the new edubuntu.org site?
[04:39] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: something like it, http://proto.edubuntu.org
[04:39] <jsgotangco> i need to make it similar to our firefox start page
[04:42] <highvoltage> ah, great!
[04:42] <highvoltage> i talked to ogra about it, since we'll need links to schooltool/schoolbell from there.
[04:47] <jsgotangco> i have the list of the features already i just didnt get time to write it
[04:47] <jsgotangco> today i'm going to finish up that firefox page
[04:47] <jsgotangco> as well as the one that'll appear in yelp
[04:51] <highvoltage> nice.
[05:56] <mdke> Laser_away: ping
[05:58] <mdke> Laser_away: unping
[06:02] <mdke> highvoltage: deping?
[06:03] <jsgotangco> what do you expect, he's english ;)
[06:05] <highvoltage> mdke: yep
[06:06] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: well, my ancestors were Englishish too, so watch it!
[06:06] <jsgotangco> lol
[06:33] <LaserJock> hi mdke
[06:33] <mdke> you were depinged
[06:33] <mdke> but hi :)
[06:34] <LaserJock> heh, has a funny sound to it. I can imagin a robot voice "You have be depinged"
[06:34] <mdke> was just going to ask you about removing the doc-base stuff
[06:34] <mdke> I think i did it right
[06:34] <mdke> best to check tho
[06:35] <LaserJock> ah yes
[06:37] <mdke> LaserJock: while you're here. does dh_install in kubuntu/debian/rules install things recursively?
[06:38] <LaserJock> hmm, good question. I wouldn't think so. Usually dh_install is used to just install individual files
[06:39] <mdke> that's what I thought
[06:39] <LaserJock> usually a makefile installs most of the files and you just use dh_install to tweak a little
[06:39] <mdke> is there a way to do it recursively, do you know?
[06:39] <LaserJock> you could use a plain old cp -r I suppose
[06:40] <mdke> where would I put that?
[06:40] <LaserJock> or maybe there is a install flag for that
[06:40] <LaserJock> give me just a sec
[06:43] <LaserJock> looks to me like install doesn't do it
[06:44] <mdke> ok np
[06:44] <LaserJock> hmm, actually dh_install might do it after all
[06:46] <LaserJock> mdke: do you need to rename the directory?
[06:46] <mdke> LaserJock: which directory?
[06:46] <LaserJock> mdke: the directory that you are trying to install
[06:47] <mdke> LaserJock: no, not necessarily
[06:48] <LaserJock> dh_install can't rename
[06:48] <mdke> np
[06:49] <LaserJock> do just try dh_install with a directory and I think it should work
[06:49] <mdke> I will try it, thanks very much
[06:50] <mdke> any sign of the book?
[06:53] <LaserJock> not yet, maybe today though. the mail will arrive in a couple hours
[07:04] <LaserJock> mdke: so are you working on the doc-base changes or do you want me to do it?
[07:06] <mdke> LaserJock: I thought I'd done it
[07:06] <LaserJock> oh sorry, I'll check it over
[07:08] <mdke> thanks
[07:13] <LaserJock> mdke: yeah, it arrived!!!
[07:13] <mdke> rock
[07:13] <mdke> tell us how it looks :)
[07:13] <robotgeek> yay!
[07:14] <LaserJock> mdke: Oh My Gosh, its the packaging guide!
[07:15] <mdke> hope so
[07:15] <LaserJock> I thought you sent the desktop guide
[07:15] <mdke> surprised ya
[07:16] <LaserJock> it was a suprise, I am speechless
[07:16] <mdke> what's the cover like?
[07:16] <LaserJock> the cover looks very nice
[07:17] <LaserJock> the cover is very orange
[07:17] <mdke> good news
[07:18] <LaserJock> hmm, the one ubuntu logo doesn't pop out as me as much as I remember but the text is great
[07:19] <mdke> ok, glad it is not a disaster in terms of quality
[07:19] <LaserJock> the icons are very pixelated
[07:19] <LaserJock> but I imagine those are going to be changed
[07:19] <robotgeek> mdke: nice touch :)
[07:20] <mdke> the admon icons? yeah we need to do something about that
[07:20] <mdke> robotgeek: :)
[07:22] <LaserJock> hmm, seeing a few things
[07:22] <LaserJock> mostly in the way links are handled
[07:27] <mdke> LaserJock: go on
[07:28] <mdke> the sample links are broken, obviously :/ I don't think anything can be done about that
[07:28] <LaserJock> well, it looks like internal links just have [number]
[07:28] <LaserJock> but I can't find where the numbers lead to
[07:29] <LaserJock> are there supposed to be footnotes?
[07:29] <mdke> no, all the links should be in square brackets
[07:29] <mdke> there shouldn't be any numbers
[07:29] <LaserJock> there are numbers in the square brackets
[07:30] <mdke> what page?
[07:31] <mdke> (an example)
[07:31] <LaserJock> ah, on page 23 there is: ... from the Section 1, "Packaging Grom Scratch" [12]
[07:31] <LaserJock> ack, from the Section , that sounds bad
[07:31] <mdke> oh, the cross references
[07:31] <mdke> those are page numbers
[07:32] <LaserJock> doh, I see
[07:32] <mdke> that "the" is something we need to do something about
[07:33] <mdke> it may well be like that in the html too
[07:33] <mdke> you need to avoid that when using xrefs. "See <xref linkend etc" is the best way to use them, I think.
[07:34] <LaserJock> yeah, I must have overlooked that
[07:34] <mdke> possibly in yelp too
[07:34] <LaserJock> ok, well I'll go through it, but I've got to go for a bit now. Anything else you want to know?
[07:35] <LaserJock> the size is nice and I think the font is good
[07:35] <mdke> no, it sounds like it looks ok
[07:35] <LaserJock> I think we could definately use something on the back cover though
[07:35] <mdke> yes, i've talked to Madpilot about doing that
[07:36] <LaserJock> mdke: is the front cover text automatic?
[07:37] <mdke> no, not at the moment
[07:38] <LaserJock> because "Packaging Guide" is close to "Ubuntu Documenation Project" but it should be closer to "Ubuntu 6.06"
[07:39] <LaserJock> mdke: btw, the doc-base removal wasn't complete
[07:39] <LaserJock> postrem also has doc-base removal stuff and the doc-base files themselves are still around? should we leave them or not?
[07:40] <mdke> no, I'll remove them, thanks
[07:40] <tuxmaniac> guys! Are you talking about the Packaging guide for Ubuntu doc?
[07:40] <tuxmaniac> I have a suggestion
[07:41] <tuxmaniac> Pleas make the section Updating packages a bit _more_ clear
[07:41] <mdke> tuxmaniac: LaserJock is the maintainer
[07:41] <tuxmaniac> aaahh!! :) LaserJock did you read that!!
[07:42] <tuxmaniac> mdke: Do you have any latest draft so that I can review it and give in some suggestions!!
[07:43] <mdke> sure, look on http://doc.ubuntu.com
[07:43] <LaserJock> tuxmaniac: yes, that I am aware of definate deficiencies :/
[07:43] <mdke> tuxmaniac: however, the document is frozen now for Ubuntu 6.06, any discussion should have the next version in mind, Ubuntu 6.10
[07:43] <crimsun> http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/basic-updating.html  specifically.
[07:44] <crimsun> what additional overarching changes could be made to 'updating packages'?
[07:46] <tuxmaniac> crimsun: hmmm.. You mean that the doc is very clear?
[07:46] <LaserJock> I'd like to see a section on creating patches (bug fixes, etc.) and then a section for updating new upstream releases (more fore people wanting to maintain a package)
[07:47] <tuxmaniac> Yes. Perfect.. I would luv to those two also!
[07:47] <LaserJock> I just didn't have enough time this time to flesh that section out enough.
[07:47] <LaserJock> it was the last section I did
[07:48] <LaserJock> at somepoint we have to just let it go and start looking towards the next release :-)
[07:48] <tuxmaniac> LaserJock: Agreed! :)
[07:55] <LaserJock> tuxmaniac: but what you can do is go to wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide and put a note about what you would like to see for the next version of the packaging guide
[07:55] <crimsun> LaserJock: yeah, the section really only deals with intraversion changes and not interversion changes
[07:56] <tuxmaniac> Ok.. It goes on my TO DO List right away!
[07:56] <crimsun> although you probably don't want to pore over every method; that could quickly become a maintenance nightmare
[07:56] <crimsun> something else that probably needs to be noted is when one should use a patching infrastructure (vs. when one shouldn't)
[07:57] <crimsun> (i.e., if there's one in place already, use it, otherwise apply directly against the source)
[07:58] <crimsun> gotta love having office hours on saturday. silly finals.
[08:00] <LaserJock> crimsun: yes, I totally agree
[08:00] <LaserJock> I gotta go now, I'll bbl
[10:27] <mdke> heya Madpilot
[10:27] <Madpilot> hi mdke
[10:28] <mdke> how'r you?
[10:28] <mdke> the book arrived, Laser_away says that the cover looked pretty good.
[10:29] <Madpilot> cool - with the automated title by Lulu or w/o?
[10:30] <mdke> w/o
[10:32] <Madpilot> I was looking at the cover design last night - how to adapt it to use Lulu's automated titles
[10:32] <mdke> i can adjust the font of the automated titles, make them a bit smaller, if necessary, I think
[10:32] <Madpilot> good
[10:33] <mdke> I'm still not convinced about using that automated thing tho
[10:33] <Madpilot> the Ubuntu/Linux for Human Beings logo/slogan is going to have to move down to the bottom half of the page
[10:34] <Madpilot> robotgeek was talking about scripting the changes to SVG
[10:34] <mdke> if it's easy to change the SVGs, I don't mind doing it, because I'll need to fetch the translated strings to put them into lulu anyhow
[10:35] <Madpilot> I suspect it won't be that hard, but I've got nowhere near the programming skill to pull it off :P
[10:35] <mdke> me neither
[10:36] <robotgeek> Madpilot: i have never dealt with unicode strings in python
[10:36] <mdke> Madpilot: if you have a good idea for repositioning stuff, give it a go and we'll see
[10:37] <Madpilot> mdke, yeah, I'm going out in a bit for the afternoon, but maybe this evening
[10:37] <robotgeek> Madpilot: i'll give it a go today
[10:37] <Madpilot> robotgeek, cool
[10:37] <robotgeek> i need to learn unicode stuff anyways, for EU
[10:39] <Madpilot> looks like the text in SVG files is in nested <tspan><text>blah</text></tspan> sets
[10:40] <robotgeek> let us see if python svg library can help out
[10:41] <Madpilot> we need the &ubuntu; and &dg-title; and &ubuntu-doc-team; entities from our XML
[10:42] <mdke> they are not entities in the translations
[10:42] <Madpilot> the translators convert them into straight text? I'd hoped they'd just translate the entitities file
[10:43] <Madpilot> robotgeek, Inkscape can do export to PNG in the command line
[10:43] <mdke> no, they don't have an entities file
[10:46] <mdke> because each title is longer, there will have to be some kind of manual tweaking to make things fit properly, I would think
[10:48] <mdke> Madpilot: here it is in a smaller font: http://mdke.org/ubuntu/292345_cover_large.jpg
[10:49] <Madpilot> cool
[10:49] <robotgeek> Madpilot: ping me when you come back in there evening, we will work on it
[10:49] <Madpilot> robotgeek, will do
[10:50] <Madpilot> mdke, I can just move the Ubuntu/Linux for... part down a bit, and that should work, if we have to use Lulu's automated layout
[11:06] <mdke> Madpilot: sure, I'm easy either way
[11:34] <mdke> anyone still here?
[11:34] <mdke> I can't seem to build the damn docs, dunno what's wrong
[11:35] <robotgeek> yeah, here
[11:36] <mdke> it looks like it is trying to download something, and just waits to ping out
[11:36] <mdke> jeffsch: I remember you solved this last time, can you remember what the problem was?
[11:36] <robotgeek> mdke: the xml header dtd?
[11:37] <mdke> right.
[11:38] <mdke> i thought it looked for it first on the local system
[11:39] <robotgeek> happended to me a few times
[11:39] <mdke> does it happen to you now?
[11:39] <robotgeek> mdke: lemme check
[11:40] <robotgeek> what are you building?
[11:40] <mdke> dg in ubuntu/
[11:41] <robotgeek> mdke: builds for me
[11:41] <mdke> quickly?
[11:42] <mdke> damn, I must have messed up something on my system
[11:42] <robotgeek> yeah, normal speed. doesn't seem like it's going on to the web


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[05:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-num-derive [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.2.4-1]
[05:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-enum-as-inner [arm64] (eoan-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
[05:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-html5ever [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.22.5-1]
[05:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-jpeg-decoder [i386] (eoan-proposed) [0.1.15-1]
[05:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-num-rational [i386] (eoan-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
[05:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-enum-as-inner [i386] (eoan-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
[05:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-num-derive [i386] (eoan-proposed) [0.2.4-1]
[05:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-inflate [i386] (eoan-proposed) [0.4.5-1]
[05:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-regex-automata [i386] (eoan-proposed) [0.1.6-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-color-quant [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [1.0.1-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-enum-as-inner [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-lru-cache [arm64] (eoan-proposed) [0.1.2-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-num-rational [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-color-quant [arm64] (eoan-proposed) [1.0.1-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-lzw [i386] (eoan-proposed) [0.10.0-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-jpeg-decoder [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.1.15-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-regex-automata [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.1.6-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-zen-observable [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.8.13-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-lzw [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.10.0-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-safe-transmute [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.10.1-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-sha-1 [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.8.1-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-html5ever [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [0.22.5-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-safe-transmute [i386] (eoan-proposed) [0.10.1-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-md-5 [i386] (eoan-proposed) [0.8.0-1]
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-sha-1 [i386] (eoan-proposed) [0.8.1-1]
[05:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-color-quant [i386] (eoan-proposed) [1.0.1-1]
[05:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-enum-as-inner [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
[05:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-lru-cache [i386] (eoan-proposed) [0.1.2-1]
[05:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-num-derive [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [0.2.4-1]
[05:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-deflate [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.7.19-1]
[05:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-md-5 [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [0.8.0-1]
[05:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-jpeg-decoder [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [0.1.15-1]
[05:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-num-rational [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [0.2.1-1]
[06:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-stealthy-require [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [1.1.1-1]
[06:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-lru-cache [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [0.1.2-1]
[06:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-deflate [i386] (eoan-proposed) [0.7.19-1]
[06:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-regex-automata [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [0.1.6-1]
[06:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-ovh-go-ovh [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.0~git20181109.ba5adb4-1]
[06:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-tslib [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [1.9.3-1]
[06:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-deflate [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [0.7.19-1]
[06:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-inflate [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [0.4.5-1]
[06:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-safe-transmute [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [0.10.1-1]
[06:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-golang-x-xerrors [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.0~git20190410.1f06c39-1]
[06:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-inflate [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.4.5-1]
[06:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-color-quant [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [1.0.1-1]
[06:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-lzw [s390x] (eoan-proposed) [0.10.0-1]
[06:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-gcla-deep [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [1.0.2-1]
[06:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-mgutz-str [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [1.2.0-1]
[06:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-src-d-gcfg [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [1.4.0-1]
[06:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-immutable-tuple [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0.4.10-1]
[06:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-gcla-gowid [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [1.0.0-1]
[06:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted node-ansi-up [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [4.0.3+dfsg-1]
[06:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-mgutz-to [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [1.0.0-1]
[06:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected node-unicode-data [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [0~20190414+gitbf518e99-2~build1]
[06:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ubuntu-mate-artwork [amd64] (eoan-proposed) [19.10.0]
[21:31] <mwhudson> can i convince any marvellous sru team member to release livecd-rootfs?
[23:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-konsorten-go-windows-terminal-sequences [amd64] (eoan-proposed/universe) [1.0.2-1] (no packageset)


[03:08] <lpotter> trying to do ./run_on_device -s and it says 'equivs' has no installation candidate :(
[12:47] <mzanetti> lpotter: hmm... run_on_device -s should just print to stdout
[12:47] <mzanetti> the actual running unity8 stuff goes to ~/.upstart/cache/unity8.log
[13:08] <tsdgeos> paulliu: can you add http://paste.ubuntu.com/8614807/ to https://code.launchpad.net/~paulliu/unity8/noninteractive20140804/+merge/231746 ? we save adding an objectName
[13:13] <mzanetti> [23:45] <Saviq> mzanetti, grep for UrlHandler
[13:13] <mzanetti> $  grep -ri UrlHandler *
[13:13] <mzanetti> $
[13:45] <tsdgeos> mterry: top approve https://code.launchpad.net/~mfrey/unity8/lock-fix/+merge/238951 ?
[13:46] <mterry> tsdgeos, done
[13:58] <tsdgeos> mterry: and this? https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/unity8/exit-spread-on-background-tap/+merge/237980
[13:59] <mterry> tsdgeos, done :)
[14:50] <tsdgeos> dandrader: ping
[14:57] <dandrader> tsdgeos, pong
[14:57] <tsdgeos> dandrader: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1381108 only happens with touch right? not if i do testShell
[14:58] <dandrader> tsdgeos, you mean tryShell
[14:59] <tsdgeos> dandrader: correct
[14:59] <dandrader> tsdgeos, it will happen with tryShell as well after the fixes I have in the bug fix mp :)
[14:59] <dandrader> tsdgeos, because currently tryShell is using a touchRegistry with fake timers
[15:00] <dandrader> tsdgeos, so a gesture ownership decision never times out there
[15:00] <tsdgeos> ah
[15:00] <tsdgeos> so i use your branch but without the fix in the qml
[15:00] <tsdgeos> to reproduce it
[15:00] <tsdgeos> yes?
[15:00] <dandrader> tsdgeos, exactly
[15:01] <dandrader> tsdgeos, just bring in the parts related to TouchRegistry in /tests
[15:54] <larsu> tsdgeos: re the statusicon thing: the test still fails because the uitk stuff didn't land yet
[15:57] <tsdgeos> larsu: ahhh
[17:19] <mterry> josharenson, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~system-settings-touch/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/view/head:/wizard/main.cpp