[17:49] <lsfret> omg dont
[17:49] <daftykins> see, doesn't matter. it's not private info.
[17:49] <ki7mt> just run lsblk
[17:49] <lsfret> now its in internet u cant remove it
[17:50] <daftykins> big whoop.
[17:50] <saymoo> lsfret, we are not here to make thing worse for you, the commands giving are safe to use, unless told so
[17:50] <ObrienDave> OMG get over it
[17:50] <lsfret> i gtg
[17:50] <awktion> lsfret: nothing in that paste that's personally identifiable
[17:50] <lsfret> i mean thank u much
[17:50] <daftykins> lsfret: you are making this task one million times harder than it needs to be through stubbornness
[17:50] <ki7mt> or beter yet: sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL
[17:50] <lsfret> i know :(
[17:51] <awktion> http://linux.die.net/man/8/lsblk
[17:51] <awktion> lsblk is also great advice, see?
[17:51] <awktion> lsfret: you came to get help, and you have great help right there
[17:51] <Voyage> how can I enable tun
[17:51] <awktion> help us help you
[17:51] <awktion> or try #gentoo
[17:52] <pwpul> Hi, ki7mt, unfortunately the problem remains...
[17:52] <EriC^^> reminds me of the guy who blanked out his UUID once
[17:52] <EriC^^> that was pretty funny :D
[17:52] <pwpul> But I still have Ubuntu 14.04LTS. Shouldn't upgrade have brought me an other version?
[17:53] <Voyage> how can I enable tun
[17:53] <ki7mt> pwpul, Ok, I don't know what else to suggest here. CLearly there is still an issue with the SW center. At least you can install via apt get.
[17:53] <awktion> pwpul: what did you run to upgrade? that apt-get upgrade? that just updates the packages you have in
[17:53] <awktion> !upgrade
[17:54] <awktion> sudo update-manager -d
[17:54] <pwpul> awktion, I ran the commands ki7mt suggested: apt-get update and afterwards upgrade
[17:55] <awktion> yes that makes sure your 14.04 or whatever your current installed version is is up to date
[17:55] <awktion> it will not take you to the next version
[17:55] <daftykins> !info tunctl
[17:55] <ki7mt> awktion, His problem is with the policy-kit1 and the software center, not apt-get.
[17:55] <awktion> ki7mt: ?
[17:55] <ki7mt> Yeah, read back through history, there's allot to the issue.
[17:56] <daftykins> Voyage: install uml-utilities
[17:56] <daftykins> Voyage: then the program 'tunctl' will be available
[17:56] <awktion> ki7mt: is it installed to a disk?
[17:56] <awktion> and he wants to upgrade the distro?
[17:56] <awktion> sudo update-manager -d
[17:56]  * awktion shrugs
[17:56] <ki7mt> awktion, what are you talking about? He can isntall apps from the software center.
[17:56] <pwpul> indeed ki7mt! So you suggest to just go on using 14.04, and using apt-get to install programs?
[17:56] <ki7mt> "He can't"
[17:56] <daftykins> awktion: nah -d is for development release upgrade, i think - so not wise
[17:57] <ki7mt> pwpul, Untill the pol-kit bug is resolved, yes, use apt-get to install SW
[17:57] <awktion> ah ye might not need the flag at all
[17:58] <NateHiggers> hello i love ubuntu
[17:58] <pwpul> Great, ki7mt, thanks for your very kind help! Time for dinner and a toast to you...
[17:58] <TomyWork> Is there a way to know when this log entry from Xorg.1.log happened? [ 49074.983] (EE) Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.
[17:59] <awktion> try installing synaptic?
[17:59] <TomyWork> NateHiggers mind changing your nickname?
[17:59] <NateHiggers> TomyWork: my name is Nathan Higgers, are we not allowed to use our real names?
[17:59] <TomyWork> your name is not Nathan Higgers
[17:59] <NateHiggers> Yes, it is
[17:59] <TomyWork> prove it
[17:59] <NateHiggers> i can show you my id
[18:00] <NateHiggers> get on skype
[18:00] <TomyWork> i dont use skype
[18:00] <saymoo> TomyWork, what's wrong?
[18:00] <ki7mt> awktion, not a good idea to mix an match managers like that (synaptic, aptitude, apt-get), long discussion, but suffice it to say, it can end in tears.
[18:00] <daftykins> NateHiggers: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:00] <awktion> NateHiggers: you can use whatever name you like in general
[18:00] <awktion> most of us obfuscate our real names, but you are under no obligation to do so
[18:00] <TomyWork> saymoo swap that user's initials around
[18:01] <awktion> ki7mt: lets have that discussion
[18:01] <daftykins> lets get back on support topic peeps
[18:01] <daftykins> don't feed the troll :)
[18:01] <awktion> synaptic, aptitude, apt-get can be used interchangably
[18:01] <saymoo> TomyWork, but he hasn't
[18:01] <saymoo> so, i don't see the problem atm
[18:01] <NateHiggers> i would like to build guis in ubuntu
[18:01] <NateHiggers> is qt the only solution?
[18:01] <awktion> NateHiggers: also don't go showing ppl your id, it's the internets
[18:02] <NateHiggers> oh thanks, i thought we can trust people here
[18:02] <_war10ck_> NateHiggers: No, there is wx, Qt, TKInter
[18:02] <saymoo> NateHiggers, there are more gui toolkits available, e.g. gtk2
[18:02] <NateHiggers> what's the easiest to use?
[18:02] <awktion> i don't trust my cousins, much less internetfolks. trust is earned
[18:03] <TomyWork> winapi
[18:03] <NateHiggers> isn't winapi for windows?
[18:03] <ki7mt> awktion, aptitude and apt-get use the same repositories. But Aptitude does not itself use apt-get apt-cache etc . this will lead to issues over the long term.
[18:03] <awktion> ki7mt: not really issues, no
[18:04] <awktion> they all use the same system installing things, and checking dpkg you will see the correct packages installed
[18:04] <ki7mt> awktion, It's further compounded by the use of dpkg which does not resolve dependencies.
[18:04] <_war10ck_> NateHiggers: Which language are you using to program? Based on that the easiness comes
[18:04] <awktion> if you try to trust the history of any given schema your methodology is at fault
[18:04] <TomyWork> ki7mt  awktion one issue i'm aware of is that if you install things with apt-get and then run aptitude, aptitude might tell you that those packages you just installed are unneeded
[18:04] <awktion> dpkg is a tool in this scenario to check what's installed
[18:04] <TomyWork> and will want to remove them for you
[18:05] <alfatau> hello all. I need help to find an I/O bottleneck. I've a Sata 6Gbps SSD connected to a Sata 3Gbps controller. The declared (and observed) sequential bandwidth of the SSD is nearly 5Gbps but for me the throughput is nearly 2Gbps. It seems a controller bottleneck but I can't proof it or also I don't know how to achieve (if possible) the nearly 3Gbps expected performances. Can you help me?
[18:05] <awktion> apt-get can certainly look for what needs to be installed and isn't
[18:05] <Dro__> how to get com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist ?
[18:05] <awktion> there are allowances for that in synaptic, and i'm certain aptitude has a few commands
[18:05] <awktion> so what, other than smoke, are you blowing here
[18:06] <TomyWork> awktion blowing smoke? me?
[18:06] <NateHiggers> i'm using ruby, javascript, and c
[18:06] <awktion> lol TomyWork
[18:06] <ki7mt> awktion, This not really a support issue, we should defer this to a later date / channel as it's fairly busy in here today.
[18:06] <TomyWork> oh him
[18:06] <awktion> ki7mt: if advice you give to ppl in this channel is based on this misguided assumption set, this is support related
[18:06] <TomyWork> aptitude and apt-get both use dpkg to actually install the packages. so the only possible issues would be with package selection
[18:07] <ki7mt> awktion, It's not misguided at all.
[18:07] <_war10ck_> NateHiggers: Check if Wx, Qt and TKInter have extensions for Ruby, I have used Python mostly and found WxPython to be easy
[18:07] <awktion> sounds pretty misguided to me
[18:07] <Voyage> daftykins thank
[18:07] <awktion> give me an example scenario where something bad happens
[18:08] <awktion> i'll spin up a vm and run through it now
[18:08] <NateHiggers> thanks _war10ck_
[18:09] <ki7mt> awktion, I'm done with this topic, if you want to research it further, by all means, have at it.
[18:09] <awktion> see? nothing but smoke ki7mt. I offer to put it to the test and you back down.
[18:09] <Voyage> daftykins cat: /dev/net/tun: File descriptor in bad state
[18:09] <_war10ck_> NateHiggers: Happy to help, there's a catch, sometimes the File menu bar doesn't appear in the GUI despite adding it in the code
[18:09] <awktion> I am willing to do so anytime, i'd be happy to learn something new, just ping me whenever i happen to be active if you change your mind.
[18:09] <daftykins> Voyage: why would you try and cat a tunnel?
[18:10] <Voyage> hm. written in docs of my vps
[18:10] <_war10ck_> NateHiggers: At that time write export UBUNTU_MENUPROXY=0 to take care of the same
[18:10] <Voyage> daftykins oh. nevermind. its an expected output. thanks again
[18:10] <daftykins> :) np
[18:11] <ki7mt> awktion, Im not here to "prove anything" to you, if you don't believe it, that's up to you.
[18:12] <awktion> i asked you to teach me not prove to me. there is every evidence to the opposite of what you advised, in official literature. so unless you can offer something to the contrary I have to say from over a decade of personal experience you're wrong
[18:13] <saymoo> ki7mt, awktion shake hands :)
[18:13] <ki7mt> awktion, 10 years, is that all you have,??  I've many more than 10, but I'm done with you.
[18:17]  * awktion offers hand
[18:22] <lsfret> hi
[18:22] <TomyWork> lsfret got your sdhc mounted?
[18:22] <lsfret> no
[18:22] <saymoo> welcome back lsfret
[18:22] <lsfret> thanks much
[18:22] <TomyWork> hmm, how are you trying to mount it again?
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[18:23] <lsfret> I have this: Model: SD 00000 (sd/mmc) Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 7861MB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[18:24] <lsfret> Partition Table: msdos
[18:24] <TomyWork> lsfret that is the command you run to mount the sdhc?
[18:24] <lsfret> no
[18:24] <lsfret> parted -l and i pasted parts
[18:24] <TomyWork> i know, but i still want to know how you mount that sdhc
[18:25] <lsfret> Hmm..
[18:25] <lsfret> i try mount -t drive folder and didn't work
[18:25] <lsfret> im not familiar with these commands
[18:25] <TomyWork> mount -t drive folder just like that or are you missing "ntfs"?
[18:26] <Poindexter_> Is there an Ubuntu kernel or OS that is solely dedicated to professional studio recording? I have seen some but I am interested in someone who has actual experience with it.
[18:26] <lsfret> but it is msdos
[18:26] <TomyWork> the partition table is msdos
[18:27] <lsfret> my bad
[18:27] <lsfret> it says type: disk
[18:27] <pbx> Poindexter_, if you're looking for a special-purpose distribution i'd check distrowatch
[18:27] <Poindexter_> Thanks PBX.  :)
[18:27] <TomyWork> lsfret can you maybe paste the exact command you're using?
[18:27] <saymoo> Poindexter_, ubuntu studio
[18:27] <lsfret> hmm
[18:28] <TomyWork> because if the command gives you an error, chances are seeing the command might help us tell what is wrong, no?
[18:28] <lsfret> lsblk so i can see the name of volume( i think or driver)
[18:28] <saymoo> an ubuntu derivative specialized in audio and video use (with realtime kernel)
[18:28] <lsfret> oh
[18:28] <lsfret> hm
[18:28] <lsfret> are u sure ntfs and not fat32?
[18:29] <TomyWork> huh?
[18:29] <TomyWork> i dont know what kind of file system you have on your dhc
[18:29] <TomyWork> sdhc*
[18:29] <lsfret> about mount -t ... Hmm about lsblk i don't see mount point
[18:29] <TomyWork> or why you'd insist on not letting it autodetect
[18:29] <lsfret> maybe because it's not mounted i guess.
[18:30] <lsfret> autodetect is it even option?
[18:30] <TomyWork> type just "mount" to see what is mounted
[18:30] <daftykins> back again i see :)
[18:30] <TomyWork> yeah, autodetect is the default if you dont specify the type
[18:30] <saymoo> daftykins, lol
[18:30] <Poindexter_> SayMoo is that an apt-get or an install? Drivers are important too.
[18:30] <daftykins> lsfret: you need to paste the partition lines
[18:30] <TomyWork> i.e. no "-t ntfs" or "-t fat32" or anything
[18:31] <lsfret> TomyWork: /dev/sda7 on /media/ubuntu/PBR_DRV type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096) maybe this
[18:31] <saymoo> Poindexter_, it's a distro, however you could also install it over an ubuntu installation i believe (it used to be the case, a few years back)
[18:32] <lsfret> i don't know
[18:32] <lsfret> i don't know which is the sd card
[18:32] <saymoo> (as in, install it as packages... not whiping ubuntu)
[18:32] <saymoo> :)
[18:32] <TomyWork> lsfret hmm, does the PBR_DRV sound familiar to you?
[18:32] <lsfret> no
[18:32] <TomyWork> well you could take a look at it with ls or something
[18:32] <lsfret> there is nothing as recovery folder or distro
[18:32] <daftykins> sda would be your hard disk
[18:32] <saymoo> Poindexter_, http://ubuntustudio.org/
[18:33] <TomyWork> saymoo you mean "install via", not "install over" :)
[18:33] <lsfret> i can read 4 dev/sdaXY and there are all mounted
[18:33] <Poindexter_> Saymoo, I am trying to avoid using ProAudio tools and other stuff but there are other things that are for sale for Ubunto in which I don't like the advertisement nor the sales pitch and has 30 day warrantee and restrictions.
[18:33] <lsfret> gopar: how did you connect from comcast?
[18:33] <TomyWork> lsfret so inspect them all with ls to see what they are
[18:34] <TomyWork> i assume you know what's on your disks :)
[18:34] <lsfret> TomyWork: what do you mean, I'm sorry.
[18:34] <saymoo> Poindexter_, all that is included in ubuntu studio is free
[18:34] <TomyWork> lsfret run "ls /media/ubuntu/PBR_DRV"
[18:34] <saymoo> and they customized the kernel so it's realtime
[18:34] <saymoo> (for latency sake)
[18:35] <lsfret> i did that already, thanks. It didn't help. In way that is not my driver
[18:35] <Poindexter_> I have seen it before but was looking for open source studio stuff.
[18:35] <gopar> lsfret, magic?
[18:35] <TomyWork> lsfret that line you just said made no sense. try again?
[18:35] <lsfret> gopar, please
[18:35] <lsfret> is it proxy?
[18:35] <saymoo> Poindexter_, most is opensource
[18:35] <gopar> lsfret, never had any issues connecting. No proxy no nothing. I'm just connecting from home
[18:36] <lsfret> gopar: comcast is like something tv..
[18:36] <TomyWork> proxies... we used to have those here too, back in the 90s
[18:36] <lsfret> I just don't know
[18:37] <gopar> lsfret, what are you having issues with?
[18:37] <Poindexter_> I have spent thousands of dollars on software with windows and the stupid advertisements and background resident programs running and talking with the manufacturers over the internet is garbage.
[18:37] <lsfret> gopar: mount sd card/reader... In windows I just installed a driver
[18:37] <daftykins> lsfret: they are an ISP for cable internet
[18:38] <lsfret> That was come up to my mind but wasn't find the correct words..
[18:38] <daftykins> lsfret: you want to back up this card so you don't even need to mount it :)
[18:38] <Poindexter_> TSR
[18:38] <lsfret> What?
[18:38] <Poindexter_> Windows garbage
[18:38] <lsfret> I just want to backup the user folder so i can reinstall distro
[18:38] <lsfret> (raspbian)
[18:38] <daftykins> TSRs are from the DOS era :P
[18:38] <TomyWork> okay, now it's starting to make sense, lsfret
[18:39] <daftykins> TomyWork: a quick dd image backup makes sense to me
[18:39] <daftykins> i'm doing house chores now so i can't help
[18:39] <TomyWork> go mount it read-only and get it over with :)
[18:39] <daftykins> plus lsfret doesn't run anything i say :D
[18:39] <lsfret> i cant find the driver
[18:39] <daftykins> you don't need a driver
[18:39] <daftykins> and you don't need to mount it
[18:39] <daftykins> for the love of Tux will you please pay attention ;_;
[18:39] <lsfret> i mean the driver(the disc name)
[18:40] <daftykins> *drive
[18:40] <lsfret> yes
[18:40] <daftykins> it told you in parted
[18:40] <daftykins> so mount the Windows disc, then use 'dd' to image up the drive
[18:40] <Poindexter_> Terminate Stay Resident still exists. Just open up a command prompt and type in MSCONFIG and see what is running in the background.
[18:40] <lsfret> lol no idiea what did u say
[18:40] <daftykins> sorry Windows disk
[18:41] <TomyWork> me neither... i think he wants to image his sdhc card
[18:41] <TomyWork> not his windows disk
[18:41] <daftykins> lsfret: paste me the output of "sudo parted -l" in a private message then, because this is really beginning to frustrate me
[18:41] <daftykins> TomyWork: yes but it needs to be saved somewhere
[18:41] <TomyWork> the cloud? :)
[18:41] <daftykins> due to being in a live session
[18:41] <TomyWork> i assume it's not a ton of data he wants to save
[18:42] <lsfret> yes got error: Error: /dev/mmcblk0: unrecognised disk label   from your command(sudo parted -l)
[18:42] <daftykins> that doesn't matter
[18:42] <daftykins> so that's the SD card then
[18:43] <lsfret> i type mount and the drive
[18:43] <lsfret> it's loading.. :D
[18:43] <daftykins> lsfret: now you need to mount one of the NTFS Windows partitions from /dev/sda for where to store the backup
[18:43] <TomyWork> Poindexter_ by that definition pretty much every application is a TSR :)
[18:43] <daftykins> lsfret: argh you don't. need. to mount. it.
[18:43] <lsfret> i have windows8 folder already open..
[18:43] <lsfret> why??!??
[18:43] <daftykins> because you can't backup multiple partitions that way
[18:44] <lsfret> you mean i need to do something like cp folder to folder?
[18:44] <daftykins> no you don't do that
[18:44] <daftykins> you use an image writing program to dump the entire card to an image file
[18:44] <lsfret> Sorry I don't understand you.
[18:44] <daftykins> well what are you hoping to do with the mounted disk? you can't just copy files
[18:45] <lsfret> That is not a folder?
[18:45] <TomyWork> Poindexter_ in a modern OS (i.e. not DOS), many processes can run at the same time. what you describe is actually the general case, not a special case (TSR)
[18:45] <mahdi_ja> hi all
[18:45] <daftykins> lsfret: you can't just file copy an OS as backup
[18:45] <Poindexter_> TomyWork this is why we need to  use that command to see what is running in the background. In fact there is a free software called: "What's running" free and virus free and it shows everything running in Windows. Good tip. I am not sure if it is safe these days but it has always been a good free software.
[18:45] <lsfret> Error: /dev/mmcblk0: unrecognised disk label  (not work)
[18:45] <daftykins> lsfret: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=46911
[18:45] <TomyWork> Poindexter_ the special case is waiting for the spawned program to exit before showing a prompt again
[18:45] <TomyWork> "free and virus free" what
[18:45] <TomyWork> just use the task manager
[18:46] <lsfret> thanks that was good link
[18:46] <TomyWork> or sysinternals process explorer if you want to be thorough
[18:46] <daftykins> lsfret: but note you have to change it to be appropriate for your situation
[18:46] <TomyWork> on linux you would use top (or better yet: htop) instead
[18:46] <lsfret> i just don't understand why you say i can''t copy it.. Is it different types?
[18:46] <Poindexter_> Task manager doesn't always show what is running. MSCONFIG shows more.
[18:46] <lsfret> how do i need to look on it?
[18:46] <mahdi_ja> i have a laptop asus v3-572g with hybrid graphic card i install bumblebee but when i use it i get this error
[18:46] <mahdi_ja> [ 7058.501671] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver
[18:46] <lsfret> like u cant open exe on linux?
[18:47] <Poindexter_> I use TOP all of the time with Linux.
[18:47] <daftykins> lsfret: i'm saying you can't backup an OS by copying files
[18:47] <TomyWork> Poindexter_ what else does it show?
[18:47] <lsfret> ok
[18:47] <TomyWork> sorry, dont have a windows here right now
[18:47] <EriC^^> lsfret: what are you trying to do?
[18:47] <bekks> EriC^^: He is about to dd an entired disk, as a backup.
[18:48] <EriC^^> bekks: oh ok
[18:48] <TomyWork> EriC^^ he wants to back up (the user directory of) an sdhc chip while he's in a live cd thing
[18:48] <lsfret> Eric^^: the sdhc has my distro(long story short fsdk problem... people told me to install raspbian again), so i backup, format, and install raspbian.
[18:48] <daftykins> EriC^^: or at least i'm trying to get there but it's been... slow going :P
[18:48] <Poindexter_> MSCONFIG also can uncheck any program on bootstrap to load up.
[18:48] <TomyWork> Poindexter_ you're talking about autostart
[18:48] <lsfret> a
[18:48] <TomyWork> that's not necessairly what's currently running
[18:49] <lsfret> this: /dev/sdb1   *          63    31506431    15753184+   7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
[18:49] <Poindexter_> That is another story.
[18:49] <daftykins> lsfret: which device is /dev/sdb ?
[18:49] <lsfret> oh
[18:49] <daftykins> lsfret: really if you would just share the entire parted output it would make life so much more easy =|
[18:49] <lsfret> i think it's the ubuntu
[18:49] <lsfret> because the size
[18:50] <TomyWork> Poindexter_ no, that is pretty much all of the story
[18:50] <lsfret> so i just need to c+p what he did but change it?
[18:50] <FantomX_12> slt
[18:50] <TomyWork> it shows services and autostart configuration
[18:50] <Poindexter_> TomyWork you are funny.    :)
[18:50] <daftykins> yes by making it appropriate for your drive mounts
[18:51] <lsfret> Anyone is with laptop?
[18:51] <TomyWork> Poindexter_  for every service there is a process and the task manager shows that process
[18:51] <FantomX_12> y a des francofones ici ?
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[18:51] <EriC^^> !fr | FantomX_12
[18:51] <Fuchs> FantomX_12: c'est meilleure d'aller vers #ubuntu-fr, ou de parler anglais ici si possible :)
[18:51] <TomyWork> Poindexter_  at least if you told it to show all users' processes
[18:52] <mahdi_ja> any one can help me
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> Fuchs  mieux, not meilleur ;)
[18:52] <daftykins> mahdi_ja: not until you ask a question
[18:52] <daftykins> oh you did
[18:52] <TomyWork> mahdi_ja with the amount of information you have given so far, nope
[18:52]  * daftykins reads
[18:53] <TomyWork> oops :D
[18:53] <lsfret> this channel change or the people as i was here before.
[18:53] <daftykins> mahdi_ja: bumblebee is the old way, the modern way is nvidia-prime - purge all bumblebee packages then install an nvidia driver with nvidia-prime
[18:53] <Poindexter_> TomyWork you can use these commands:   top  ; atop  ;  htop
[18:53] <TomyWork> daftykins does that actually work now?
[18:53] <daftykins> TomyWork: has since release
[18:54] <TomyWork> i mean the dual graphics card stuff in general
[18:54] <TomyWork> i tried it back then with 12.04 i think and it... wasn't pleasant
[18:54] <TomyWork> i tried bumblebee and something called primus
[18:54] <mahdi_ja> daftykins, same this link : http://xmodulo.com/install-configure-nvidia-optimus-driver-ubuntu.html
[18:55] <daftykins> mahdi_ja: i don't understand what you're saying?
[18:55] <jpereira> I have used the 14.04 trusty. And i would like to know about the best way to upgrade the libmtp. someone could give me suggestions? e.g: I won't to get/configure/make/make install, i prefer to upgrade the package.
[18:55] <ki7mt> lsfret, the channel has not changed much, same people as before for the most part.
[18:55] <TomyWork> just want to know if i can buy one of those dual graphics card laptops next time :)
[18:55] <daftykins> TomyWork: depends if you like your hair i think
[18:55] <TomyWork> :D
[18:55] <lsfret> i was here.. Banned and then unbanned and someone told me to not come here again. Maybe daftykins lmao
[18:55] <mahdi_ja> daftykins, i search for installing nivida hybrid graphic card and find this tutorial :http://xmodulo.com/install-configure-nvidia-optimus-driver-ubuntu.html
[18:56] <TomyWork> lsfret you must have mistyped
[18:56] <ki7mt> lsfret, I don't thing anyone trying t help you would say that. In any case, they need info from you and you need to follow their advice.
[18:56] <mahdi_ja> daftykins, my lspci output is : http://pastebin.com/RQDDsPwr
[18:56] <lsfret> thing?
[18:57] <TomyWork> hink*
[18:57] <TomyWork> think*
[18:57] <ki7mt> lsfret, *Think .. sri.
[18:57] <daftykins> mahdi_ja: can you install pastebinit then run "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit" ?
[18:57] <lsfret> Your english.. Although I'm not good at english
[18:57] <jpereira> anyone have suggestions?
[18:58] <daftykins> jpereira: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade = will give the newest version
[18:58] <smtp_not_working> Hi everyone, I'm having a problem with setting up a mail server with ubuntu and zimbra
[18:58] <EriC^^> lsfret: cooperate with people so they can help you
[18:58] <TomyWork> lsfret he's connecting through a lithuanian server, how would you figure he's english? Many of us here arent native english speakers. it's just a matter of practice :)
[18:58] <daftykins> smtp_not_working: #ubuntu-server would make more sense for you then
[18:59] <smtp_not_working> daftykins: thank you
[18:59] <TomyWork> also what EriC^^ said
[18:59] <jpereira> daftykins,  the latest is 1.1.6, i would like to go to 1.1.8
[18:59] <jpereira> latest = stable
[18:59] <daftykins> !info libmtp trusty
[18:59] <lsfret> I don't think it's practice, there are some good at English.
[18:59] <jpereira> !info libmtp trusty
[18:59] <daftykins> jpereira: then either look for a PPA or install a newer ubuntu
[19:00] <mahdi_ja> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11030383/
[19:00] <lsfret> But I don't understand what I typed.
[19:00] <TomyWork> lsfret it correlates with practice though :)
[19:00] <lsfret> sudo dd bs=4M if=/dev/sdb | gzip > /home/your_username/image`date +%d%m%y`.gz
[19:00] <lsfret> The '>' means output I believe
[19:00] <jpereira> daftykins,  I would like to use the version 1.1.8 from 'wily' https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmtp
[19:00] <TomyWork> ok i'll explain
[19:00] <lsfret> Anyone can explain in few sentence in their gold time?
[19:00] <daftykins> mahdi_ja: your driver is way too old to work with your system, run "sudo apt-get purge bumblebee* " then go back into additional drivers and remove 304, put on 340+ instead
[19:01] <lsfret> Thanks ^^
[19:01] <daftykins> jpereira: you can't mix versions.
[19:01] <TomyWork> lsfret sudo means "run with super-user permissions the following command"
[19:01] <lsfret> I know sudo :D
[19:02] <lsfret> thi ubuntu is cool!!
[19:02] <ki7mt> lsfret, the > is a simple re-direction of gzip
[19:02] <daftykins> jpereira: what makes you think you need it?
[19:02] <lsfret> anyone with kubuntu?
[19:02] <TomyWork> lsfret "dd bs=4M if=/dev/sdb" means copy from /dev/sdb to no place in particular, with a block size of 4MB (i.e. copy in 4 MB chunks)
[19:02] <TomyWork> no place in particular = the standard output of the process
[19:02] <TomyWork> normally, that would end up in your terminal
[19:02] <mahdi_ja> daftykins, i run it but in additional driver i see "no additional driver available"
[19:02] <lsfret> thanks!
[19:03] <EriC^^> lsfret: what do you mean by fsdk problem?
[19:03] <jpereira> daftykins,  because i have a Moto-G, and found many issues in the mtp wikie and otherwise saying that was fixed in >= 1.1.8
[19:03] <daftykins> mahdi_ja: ok run "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " as well, then reboot to make sure all the bumblebee and nvidia packages are gone
[19:03] <TomyWork> lsfret  but there is "| gzip" attached to it, which captures everything dd read from the sdhc and compresses it
[19:03] <daftykins> jpereira: what about guides that suggest udev related edits?
[19:03] <Poindexter_> Latest distro does not mean stable. It is BETA software. Stable is software that is accepted as the norm and BETA is a worked on version. Don't confuse it.
[19:03] <TomyWork> lsfret and then it puts the compressed result on *its* standard output
[19:04] <lsfret> Eric^^: Welcome. fsdk.. As I understood... When I plugged raspberrypi to router it give 500(power not sure if it's mA) and it suppose to get more. Because the router usb spec port gives 500 mA(Again im not sure)..
[19:04] <TomyWork> and then there's "> /home/your_username/image`date +%d%m%y`.gz", which tells your shell to redicrect that standard output to a file
[19:04] <jpereira> daftykins,  over udev changes works fine, but the rhythmbox didn't works... because he uses the libmtp. got it?
[19:05] <daftykins> jpereira: ok but what you want to do is still a bad idea - so like i said, try and find a PPA with a newer version provided in package form :)
[19:05] <TomyWork> lsfret wherein `date +%d%m%y` means "get the day, month and year and put it in the string
[19:05] <lsfret> this ubuntu probably took ages to make it
[19:06] <EriC^^> lsfret: ok, so why are you copying the whole drive?
[19:06] <TomyWork> lsfret  so you'll get something like /home/your_username/image2015-05-08.gz"
[19:06] <TomyWork> lsfret and yes, the GNU project started in the 80s
[19:06] <TomyWork> the linux kernel started in 1991
[19:06] <lsfret> EriC^^: I don't know/not sure. Just go after the stream. We'll see what I can do. Although I lazy to connect raspberry pi and transfer with ssh
[19:07] <daftykins> wow.
[19:07] <TomyWork> and the theoretical groundwork is from the 60s and 70s
[19:07] <daftykins> so this entire task is down to your own laziness?
[19:07] <daftykins> good to know
[19:07] <Johnny_Linux> unix was created in 1970
[19:07] <lsfret> HAHA
[19:07] <TomyWork> lsfret get winscp -_-
[19:07] <Johnny_Linux> by the military
[19:07] <lsfret> i also not good at C programming and I stopped
[19:07] <jpereira> daftykins,  the reason i drop here...  it's exactly this! i didn't find! :P
[19:07] <lsfret> Does anyone here programming Java on Ubuntu?
[19:08] <ki7mt> But Linux is not Unix .. and to be accurate, Linux is just the kernel
[19:08] <daftykins> jpereira: ah well game over then
[19:08] <TomyWork> Johnny_Linux http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
[19:08] <OerHeks> lsfret, please don't poll here, ask your support question.
[19:08] <TomyWork> ctrl-f military will yield no hits
[19:08] <lsfret> Just wanted to know because I was in place and do you need drivers for Android Studio?
[19:08] <jpereira> daftykins,  haha!
[19:08] <lsfret> daftykins: I know it
[19:09] <lsfret> daftykins: I know it's internet but after a test my head get weirds so i need hobby. Thanks for your time ^^. I never find people these in internet
[19:09] <jpereira> daftykins,  I will get the latest package from repository and change the source tree. (will see)
[19:09] <lsfret> Like them(you)
[19:09] <daftykins> jpereira: ok tell me where in the world you are so i can face the horizon in the correct direction and look for the mushroom cloud ;)
[19:10] <jpereira> daftykins,  haha!
[19:12] <lsfret> http://askubuntu.com/questions/15832/how-do-i-get-the-cpu-temperature is it working for you?
[19:12] <mahdi_ja> daftykins, thak your very much i do it.
[19:13] <lsfret> i asked to much i guess XD
[19:14] <daftykins> lsfret: i'm too scared to help now in case you won't run something else
[19:14] <lsfret> lol
[19:14] <lsfret> sry
[19:14] <TomyWork> jpereira if only you could update it with some overlayfs contraption in place :)
[19:14] <MonkeyDust> lsfret  try   watch -n 1 sensors
[19:14] <TomyWork> and revert if it goes wrong
[19:15] <lsfret> there is no sensors package..
[19:15] <TomyWork> lsfret or ksysguard :D
[19:15] <Poindexter_> Linux is exactly as was described. Linux was a clone of UNIX OS or kernel and Linus Torvolds paved the way for what this channel is about. He did it for free and all who help each other here do there help for free and I congratulate everyone here who gives their free time to promote a free kernel. Thanks guys and gals. :)
[19:15] <daftykins> Poindexter_: this is not a chat channel, can you stop that please?
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> lsfret  install lm-sensors
[19:15] <lsfret> i did it
[19:15] <TomyWork> yeah, stop cheering up the helpful people
[19:16] <olabaz> hey, I have a Razor mouse a Ducky keyboard and a Wacom tablet.  Whenever I boot up to my ubuntu partition with these 3 things connected, my mouse is frozen on screen and the keyboard does not work.  It has only happened once that I booted and everything was working properly. Any ideas?
[19:16] <abdo_losh> Evening all
[19:16] <daftykins> if you want cheering up, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> lsfret  ok, then this simple command should work   watch -n 1 sensors
[19:16] <lsfret> i think i typed it, u paste it again.
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> in a terminal
[19:16] <TomyWork> olabaz all usb i assume?
[19:16] <lsfret> Razor mouse :
[19:16] <lsfret> :D
[19:17] <lsfret> Oh no i think i copy the ubuntu live
[19:17] <TomyWork> olabaz  did you try varying the ports? does the problem occur on other operating systems or linux distros as well? tried a live cd of one?
[19:18] <TomyWork> anyway, going home. you've got things to try, good luck olabaz :)
[19:18] <olabaz> TomyWork, yes, they're all USB
[19:18] <olabaz> and they work fine on windows
[19:19] <olabaz> I don't have any other linux or cds to try though :
[19:19] <abdo_losh> anyone found out why USB mouse freezes up after a shot while and refuses to wake back up (Ubuntu Mate 15.04), cheers?
[19:19] <olabaz> TomyWork, I'm on 12.04 do you think upgrading will help?
[19:19] <lsfret> abdo_losh: which mouse, I'm using simple mouse usb ... And ubuntu live
[19:20] <abdo_losh> lsfret: HP Optical 1.1 Usb mouse
[19:21] <abdo_losh> worked so well with Ubuntu 13.10
[19:22] <abdo_losh> Lsfret: No prblems though using USB mouse on horrendous windows
[19:23] <lsfret> Unplug and then plug work right?
[19:23] <abdo_losh> yeh i does then i dies again after a bit
[19:24] <lsfret> Hmm.. Maybe when it happen type this: 'dmesg' and paste it if you see something suspecious
[19:26] <abdo_losh> you know i tried a few work arounds including autosuspend=-1 at kernel boot command .. no chance
[19:26] <lsfret> My opinion that in windows you have the drivers..
[19:26] <abdo_losh> maybe
[19:27] <bekks> Did you even take a look at dmesg when that happens?
[19:27] <lsfret> can you paste the line of lsusb ?
[19:27] <abdo_losh> i just wonder why it works flawlessly on 13.04 / 10 but no luck with higher versions of Ubunt
[19:27] <TheEternalAbyss> hello
[19:28] <abdo_losh> bekks: yes and know lost count of times it dies..... maybe i should next time
[19:28] <abdo_losh> lsfret: hang on
[19:29] <m0r0n> Hello. I'm having issues with my nvidia drivers. Whenever I boot from sleep I get my login page, after I login my screen goes black. I opened up a terminal (with a blank screen using shortcuts) and ran sudo startx. I shutdown my computer by unplugging the battery, now whenever I try to login it looks like "startx" runs everytime I login. After logging in and seeing the nVidia logo it takes me back to my login page
[19:30] <OerHeks> m0r0n, uh oh, startx is depreciated, sudo service lightdm start is now current
[19:30] <daftykins> m0r0n: you've broken permissions by running startx, don't use it
[19:30] <abdo_losh> you want me to paste the whole output of dmesg here ?
[19:30] <daftykins> m0r0n: check your ~ for files not owned by your user.
[19:30] <daftykins> abdo_losh: good lord no. http://paste.ubuntu.com :P
[19:30] <lsfret> D=
[19:30] <abdo_losh> lol
[19:31] <m0r0n> daftykins, What do you mean by look for files not owned by my user?
[19:31] <abdo_losh> daftykins: thought not
[19:31] <daftykins> m0r0n: "ls -al ~" and look for files with root:root beside instead of user:user
[19:31] <m0r0n> Okay
[19:32] <lsfret> what did i just did:     sudo gzip -dc /home/your_username/image.gz | dd bs=4M of=/dev/sdb
[19:32] <cristian__> Hola, qué signigica éste error?  bash: /etc/bash.bashrc: Permiso denegado
[19:33] <olabaz> cristian__, you may need to use sudo
[19:33] <daftykins> lsfret: nuked your entire sdb
[19:33] <cristian__> Puedo usar chmod?
[19:33] <lsfret> It not good?
[19:33] <lsfret> ;_; omg
[19:34] <m0r0n> daftykins, I'm not sure how to read this output to trace it to a file. I do see root:root though
[19:34] <daftykins> m0r0n: "ls -al ~ | pastebinit" then link me (you might need to install pastebinit
[19:35] <jpereira> daftykins,  yeah dude... configure/make/make install works fine! :)
[19:35] <abdo_losh> i need a tidy command for just usb snatch of dmesg please ?
[19:35] <likecolacola> is Counter-Strike playable in linux?
[19:35] <olabaz> cristian__, it has to be executable so it should be chmod to do that
[19:35] <abdo_losh> if it exists that is
[19:35] <daftykins> jpereira: good luck ever updating again
[19:36] <olabaz> cristian__, but if it says permission denied it's probably because you didn't run as sudo
[19:36] <m0r0n> daftykins, Didn't know pastebinit existed. Thanks. Here's the paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11030869/
[19:36] <OerHeks> likecolacola, in wine it should be https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CounterStrike
[19:36] <daftykins> m0r0n: ah no that's fine, root just means the folder above
[19:37] <jchmrt> A friend of mine is periodically getting crashes in which he gets errors like this when trying to run commands: "bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Input/output error" or "bash: /bin/ls: No such file or directory". We think that it is a issue with the drive, but it is brand new. Is there any reason apart from drive failure which could cause these type of problems?
[19:37] <abdo_losh> daftykins: dmesg has some ufw entries i dont want to share,  i need a tidy command for just usb snatch of dmesg please ?
[19:37] <daftykins> abdo_losh: best ask someone else then, i'm occupied
[19:38] <cristian__> #olabaz Voy a darle permisos de root
[19:38] <abdo_losh> no worries !!
[19:38] <lsfret> lol
[19:38] <likecolacola> OerHeks, oh.. thanks!
[19:38] <abdo_losh> :-)
[19:38] <daftykins> jchmrt: get pastebinit and smartmontools installed, then get us a "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit" where sdX is the / disk.
[19:39] <mka> jchmrt: its likely to be drive failure
[19:39] <jchmrt> ok, will do. thanks
[19:39] <lsfret> cristian__: what is this?
[19:39] <Bashing-om> jchmrt: File system corruption can also cause such a issue .
[19:39] <abdo_losh> nice chatting with you lads and ladettes... brb
[19:39] <daftykins> m0r0n: does the guest session work?
[19:42] <olabaz> cristian__, trabajo?
[19:42] <mcphail> likecolacola: couterstrike, CS:S and CS:GO all run natively in Linux. You don't need wine
[19:42] <cristian__> ejecuté el permiso chmod +x bash.bashrc y no me funcionó
[19:43] <m0r0n> daftykins, I logged in as the user affected, and ran the command. What I showed you before was under a different user with the terminal in the affected users home directory. This is what I should have sent: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11030922/
[19:44] <daftykins> m0r0n: ah ok - "sudo chown -R dwayne: /home/dwayne/" (assuming that's your home folder :> )
[19:44] <ezio> anyone know why when I installed ubuntu it would add localhost.ca to my hosts file for <IP_ADDRESS>.  The reason I ask is because sendmail keeps trying to send mail through localhost.ca ... we can't figure out why.
[19:44] <olabaz> cristian__, como trataste de ejecutar el programa
[19:44] <m0r0n> daftykins, I'm currently logged into a user with admin privileges if that helps with full GUI running
[19:45] <daftykins> olabaz cristian__ - english only guys, take it to #ubuntu-es please
[19:45] <jchmrt> daftykins: we can't get the system to boot anymore, but we got the smart values using the Crucial Executive program on windows: http://pastebin.com/tqR58kYa
[19:46] <daftykins> jchmrt: oh, so SSD?
[19:46] <daftykins> which model?
[19:46] <jchmrt> yeah, Crucial BX100 120GB
[19:47] <daftykins> jchmrt: desktop machine?
[19:47] <daftykins> i'd change SATA port / cable
[19:47] <jchmrt> yes, built by my friend himself
[19:47] <cristian__> ;) thanks!
[19:47] <jchmrt> daftykins: We'll try it, thanks!
[19:48] <m0r0n> daftykins, After changing owner, should I try to login now?
[19:49] <daftykins> m0r0n: yep
[19:49] <m0r0n> Okay brb.
[19:51] <m0r0n> daftykins, It worked! Thank you.
[19:51] <Apachez> oh great, trying to upgrade from 14.10 into 15.04... ended in "Could not install the upgrades. The upgrade has aborted. Your system could be in an unusable state. A recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a)" - so what now?
[19:51] <jeffreylevesque> is there something special i need to do, in order to access a webcamera from the host machine on a guest Ubuntu VM?
[19:51] <jeffreylevesque> i'm specifically using Virtualbox
[19:51] <daftykins> m0r0n: woohoo \o/ np - so yeah bear in mind no startx :) always "sudo service lightdm stop/restart"
[19:52] <olabaz> hey, there is a problem with my computer when I upgrade the nvidia drivers. Will these get updated automatically if I update from 12.04 to 14.04?
[19:52] <m0r0n> Okay. Thanks. I'll go back to finding the perfect driver
[19:52] <daftykins> jeffreylevesque: that's a #vbox question
[19:53] <lsfret_> m0r0n: I know it's about the driver :)
[19:53] <lsfret_> I knew*
[19:53] <ki7mt> jeffreylevesque, short answer, webcam passthrough may help : https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#idp99569632
[19:54] <Bashing-om> olabaz: Dpends . #rd party software is not ubuntu, just because it is tacked on . Best practice is to revert the PPA to what is in the repository ( all PPAs) then release upgrade .
[19:55] <olabaz> Bashing-om, ok, do you think upgrading will improve the compatability of my mouse/keyboard/tablet work?
[19:55] <Bashing-om> olabaz: Possible, as 15.04 does have enhanced hardware support .
[19:56] <jchmrt> daftykins: after plugging the sata cable in better, it boots again and the problems seem to be gone. Thanks for your help!
[19:56] <daftykins> jchmrt: ^_^ excellent, no worries. heh i waived payment when i had a job like that once... found a machine with a partially disconnected HDD
[19:56] <olabaz> Bashing-om, did you typo a 15 because I was asking about 14.04
[19:57] <ki7mt> You should look more toward the kernel and firmware updates to see if improvements have been made in the ms/kb/tab areas first.
[19:57] <Bashing-om> olabaz: One should always keep the system updated .
[19:58] <olabaz> ki7mt, could you link me to what you're referring to
[19:58] <olabaz> Bashing-om, oh, I see 15.04 is the latest. Do you have a reference to where it mentions about increased hw support?
[19:59] <ki7mt> olabaz, Hold on one, let me see if I can dig up a link.
[20:00] <ki7mt> olabaz, Pick a kernel folder, then change log: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux/
[20:00] <jeffreylevesque> ki7mt: thank you
[20:01] <ki7mt> jeffreylevesque, welcome
[20:01] <Bashing-om> olabaz: A place to start seeking: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VividVervet/ReleaseNotes .
[20:02] <olabaz> ki7mt, ok thanks
[20:02] <olabaz> Bashing-om, ok thanks
[20:04] <JFlash> hello, I'm generating a key hash to sign my facebook app like this:
[20:04] <JFlash> keytool -exportcert -alias androiddebugkey -keystore ~/.android/debug.keystore | openssl sha1 -binary | openssl base64
[20:04] <JFlash> but then when I point to this file in Intellij IDEA it asks me for password and says I have wrong password
[20:06] <Spec-Chum> on gnomeshell is there a way to make the mouse triggers a couple of pixels from the edge?  VirtualBox's mouse seems to be only able to go "near" the edge, not right onto it
[20:07] <superkuh> Welp, this is it Ubuntu. Snappy means goodbye. Bye.
[20:08] <reisio> darn you Snappy!
[20:08] <ki7mt> Keep Snappy Happy I say :-)
[20:09] <reisio> snapping turtles, dangerous
[20:10] <adac> in my fstab I have the following line:
[20:10] <adac> /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-swap_1 none            swap    sw              0       0
[20:10] <adac> but it seems on boot that the swap can not be loaded
[20:11] <adac> what can I do about this?
[20:11] <ezio> when i installed ubuntu, it automatically gave me some host information about localhost.ca.  i think i've had this happen before.  this is actually a digital ocean droplet.  sendmail now has a raging hard on for localhost.ca.  anyone know why this would happen?
[20:11] <ezio> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30132047/sendmail-trying-to-route-through-localhost-ca
[20:17] <fgrew> i did this: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=46911 but i have file like(extracted it): image080515. How do I open it?
[20:23] <InFlames> anyone here know how to setup RabbitVCS for Ubuntu 14.04 with Nemo?
[20:24] <ki7mt> fgrew, example: mkdir ~/img mount -t udf image080615.img ~/img -o loop
[20:25] <ki7mt> fgrew, that's two commands ..  mkdir ~/img ; mount -t udf image080615.img ~/img -o loop
[20:25] <fgrew> Ah//
[20:27] <ki7mt> fgrew, Outside of that, you could using ISO viewers, Archive managers, apps along those lines.
[20:27] <fgrew> that's not work what u offer
[20:27] <fgrew> mount -t udf image080515 bla/ -o loop
[20:27] <ki7mt> fgrew, Ok, well that's how I do it. I'd recommend using your Archive viewer then.
[20:28] <fgrew> it couldn't mount it
[20:28] <fgrew> i double click on it
[20:28] <ki7mt> fgrew, That is all I can offer, maybe others can assist you better.
[20:29] <fgrew> i success but i waste my time mount my ubuntu disto instead of my sdhc
[20:29] <fgrew> :(
[20:30] <ki7mt> fgrew, I dont kn ow what that means, sorry.
[20:30] <fgrew> ok
[20:30] <fgrew> unmount not work
[20:31] <fgrew> can't unmount :(
[20:32] <fgrew> nvm
[20:32] <JFlash> please help me
[20:33] <JFlash> I dont know anythin about key hashes
[20:33] <JFlash> I'm trying to paste this key hash on facebook developer website, but it doesnt save it
[20:33] <JFlash> 2p3OV6P9OTiIjd+r4ANHZ9Au+28
[20:33] <JFlash> is it considering it invalid?
[20:34] <fgrew> what do you mean?
[20:34] <fgrew> how do you paste it
[20:36] <JFlash> the pasting itself works
[20:36] <JFlash> then there's save button
[20:36] <JFlash> after I save, it removes it
[20:36] <JFlash> it must be considering it invalid or something
[20:37] <OerHeks> JFlash, there is a page for that, maybe you better ask in #facebook ( dev-channel) https://developers.facebook.com/docs/android/getting-started
[20:37] <dr34mc0d3r> dose anyone know of any code in drupal that will append a number onto the username of a new account? all my new usernames now look like "Fred Jones 9" "Sherry Kingder 10"
[20:37] <JFlash> yes, I just found facebook thanks
[20:37] <JFlash> facebook channel
[20:39] <daftykins> dr34mc0d3r: *not* ubuntu support
[20:39] <fgrew> Unable to read /dev/mmcblk0
[20:39] <fgrew> help im using sudo gparted
[20:41] <fgrew> does it mean my sdhc damaged?
[20:41] <fgrew> my noobs card :(
[20:41] <daftykins> fgrew: why don't you just give in and SCP the files finally?
[20:41] <daftykins> it's been hours...
[20:41] <fgrew> what is it SCP?
[20:41] <daftykins> !scp
[20:41] <fgrew> i dont wanna move the monitor and connect keyboard etc...
[20:41] <fgrew> its next to met
[20:42] <fgrew> me
[20:42] <daftykins> fgrew: then i won't be helping you. sorry.
[20:42] <fgrew> ok
[20:42] <fgrew> if i would do that would u try help?
[20:42] <daftykins> you wouldn't need help because you'd connect over SSH, grab the files and be done
[20:43] <fgrew> how do i move all my files?
[20:43] <fgrew> through ssh. sorry
[20:44] <torak> what do you mean by all?
[20:44] <daftykins> backing up /home most likely
[20:44] <ki7mt> Use rsync ..
[20:44] <daftykins> i think fgrew's desktop is Windows only
[20:44] <torak> you can use this https://mylinuxramblings.wordpress.com/2010/01/10/how-to-backup-and-restore-your-home-directory/
[20:45] <ki7mt> like rsync -avz $user@ip-address:<folder-name> ./backup-folder  or similar
[20:46] <Elec_A> Hello , I have ubuntu 12.04 installed , how can I install lastest cmake ?
[20:47] <reisio> latest isn't a version
[20:47] <ki7mt> Elec_A, you'll get what is in the repo if installing that way. Otherwise, build from source or use a .deb
[20:47] <ki7mt> Elec_A, what version Cmake you need?
[20:48] <Elec_A> ki7mt: my current version is 2.8.7
[20:48] <Elec_A> i need 2.8.10
[20:49] <ki7mt> Elec_A, Ah, ok, im on 2.8.12 here   maybe enable 14.04 backports
[20:49] <OerHeks> Elec_A, install utopic 14.10 or higher ( utopic has 3 months support left) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cmake
[20:49] <Elec_A> OerHeks: what is utopic ?
[20:49] <OerHeks> = ubuntu 14.10
[20:49] <ki7mt> Elec_A, maybe this: sudo apt-get install cmake/trusty-backports
[20:50] <fgrew> Yes I wanna move all files
[20:50] <fgrew> with ssh
[20:50] <fgrew> How?
[20:50] <guntbert> !utopic | Elec_A
[20:50] <basti> i have two screen sessions detached. when i want to access them i get this: WriteMessage: Bad file descriptor
[20:50] <basti> what is wrong?
[20:51] <Elec_A> ki7mt: release trusty-backports for cmake was not foound
[20:52] <fgrew> how do i move files with ssh?
[20:53] <ki7mt> Elec_A, That's a bugger then. Let me look in the package archives real quick.
[20:53] <guntbert> fgrew: from where to where?
[20:53] <fgrew> my client (from) ...
[20:53] <fgrew> i connect to ssh
[20:54] <ki7mt> Elec_A, Yup, it's not there. Either build from Source, it use a later .deb file is all I could suggest.
[20:54] <guntbert> fgrew: you don't "connect to ssh", you use ssh to connect to a server
[20:54] <ki7mt> Elec_A, or use a later . deb .. .. ..
[20:54] <fgrew> yes
[20:54] <fgrew> How do I copy files?
[20:54] <Elec_A> ki7mt: is there cmake's .deb file available ?
[20:54] <Elec_A> should i check cmake website
[20:54] <Elec_A> ?
[20:54] <tamps> Can some1 help me out. How can I copy from one file a line(file contain only one line) to another file line end. Whit command "paste file1 >> file2" but it will make an new line. I need to copy line to another file line end.
[20:55] <guntbert> fgrew: I ask again: from where to where do you want ot copy them?
[20:55] <bekks> tamps: cat file1 file2 > file12
[20:55] <fgrew> server to client
[20:55] <tamps> again, two new lines
[20:55] <ki7mt> Elec_A, Yes, I would check with KitWare .. I think there are, if not, building from sourse is pretty easy.
[20:55] <tamps> I need to copy to the same line.
[20:56] <Elec_A> ki7mt: is this ok : http://pkgs.org/download/cmake ?
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[20:56] <Grimsley> what does the move to snappy mean for joe/jane user?
[20:56] <fgrew> SafeMoneyOnl: show
[20:56] <guntbert> fgrew: in that case you use   scp  path/on/client useronserver@server:path/on/server
[20:56] <monojin> Win 20.000? Don't you mean Win 2000?
[20:56] <bekks> SafeMoneyOnl: Do you have a specific Ubuntu support question?
[20:56] <geirha> tamps: paste file1 file2 > file3
[20:57] <fgrew> you mean in game not irlf
[20:57] <Elec_A> ki7mt: it seems it is available in kubuntu backports
[20:57] <tamps> is there an way to copy from first file to another file. that I dont need to greate an new file..
[20:58] <tamps> paste works, but then need to reconfigure my hardware every time..
[20:58] <ki7mt> Elec_A, That's going to give you 2.8.7 also, there's no back port for it i appears. Maybe Source build is the only option for 12.04. Kubuntu has 2.8.12 though.
[20:59] <Elec_A> ki7mt: isn't it ok to install kubuntu 2.8.12 on ubuntu ?
[20:59] <ki7mt> Elec_A, Sure, it's ok to install any of the DE's you want.
[21:00] <ki7mt> Elec_A, It jsut seems a bit overkill to get the latest Cmake though.
[21:00] <Elec_A> ki7mt: why ?
[21:00] <ki7mt> Elec_A, If it were fgor a newr Qt5 version or something, then I would understand, but Cmake is pretty small package.
[21:01] <Elec_A> ki7mt: so do you suggest installing it ?
[21:02] <ki7mt> Elec_A, I would built it from source, in /usr/local, having removed the distro cmake first, then test it out.
[21:02] <ki7mt> .. would build it ..
[21:02] <tamps> I need to make it that filename dont change.. something like this "paste info_to_copy >> File_to_paste" but I need it this way that it does not great new line.
[21:02] <ki7mt> Elec_A, Baring that, upgrade to 14.04 LTS, but that's overkill also.
[21:03] <InFlames> my ubuntu 14.04 doesn't handle returning windows to the main screen when the secondary is removed, it thinks there is still a second screen, anyone have any ideas?
[21:03] <abdel> pici
[21:03] <abdel> u there
[21:06] <LordShadowWing> Lot of logged on users, but no chatter...
[21:06] <ki7mt> Elec_A, If you follow the Kitware guys info, seems pretty easy: http://www.cmake.org/download/
[21:07] <bazhang> LordShadowWing, this is support only, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic , thats why
[21:07] <fearnothing> are people in here nicer than on quakenet ubuntu chan?
[21:07] <bazhang> fearnothing, thats not a support topic here
[21:08] <Elec_A> ki7mt: sorry , i don't know kitware
[21:08] <fearnothing> I used to think that linux IRC channels were unfriendly to newbs but maybe I've been hanging out in the wrong ones. I do have a question, it is as follows:
[21:08] <ki7mt> Elec_A, Kitware is the CMake developers
[21:08] <fearnothing> I've been setting up phpldapadmin, and I made a mistake in the initial configuration for the domain
[21:09] <fearnothing> basically missed off a field from $servers->setValue('server','base',array()
[21:09] <Elec_A> ki7mt: Oh , thank you. Ok i'll try their documents.
[21:09] <fearnothing> I've inserted the correct value and restarted apache and slapd, but the login page is still not loading the correct value
[21:10] <fearnothing> it logs me in if I manually give the correct domain
[21:10] <fearnothing> but it should fill that field in automatically and it isn't. Why not?
[21:10] <bazhang> !info phpldapadmin
[21:10] <ki7mt> Elec_A, Cmake is the Open-source version of their product.
[21:11] <ki7mt> Elec_A, There's also ParaView, vTK, iTK but that's outside what you need.
[21:11] <fearnothing> is that long form for "wrong channel"?
[21:12] <|aaron> since updating to 15.04 im having problems with chrome freezing... it will just completely stop responding to input for a minute or so. doesnt seem to matter what tabs i have open and ive got plenty of free system resources.. help?
[21:12] <lasko> fearnothing: You'll usually find that application specific issues will best be handled in application specific channels, generally if someone knows they an answer but sometimes not.
[21:13] <Elec_A> ki7mt: thank you :)
[21:13] <fearnothing> ok, do you know whether I should be looking for an ldap channel or specifically phpldapadmin?
[21:13] <tamps> Anyway to cat one file line to another file line end? eg: "cat cookie_id >> stream_playlist"
[21:13] <lasko> fearnothing: I honestly haven't a clue, you might ask for channel information in #php and see if someone knows there
[21:14] <fearnothing> that's an invite only chan
[21:14] <lasko> Oh weird
[21:14] <lasko> Umm..
[21:14] <lasko> maybe #phpmyadmin  ?
[21:15] <fearnothing> phpmyadmin includes ldap? that's the one that's included in LAMP right?
[21:16] <lasko> Well, what I mean to say is that -- that channel may have more answers on whom to ask.
[21:16] <fearnothing> ok
[21:16] <fearnothing> thanks :)
[21:16] <lasko> No problem, good luck
[21:18] <geck_> ciao raga
[21:23] <nonroot> hello, anyone who can tell me where i can find Wine IRC Channel for linux not mac?
[21:23] <tamps> Anyway to cat one file line to another file line end? eg: "cat cookie_id >> stream_playlist.m3u8" whitout greating an new file eg "paste cookie_id stream_playlist >> new playlist.m3u8" I do not want to make an new file.. only edit an exist file. Any help plz? :/
[21:23] <lasko> nonroot: It should just be #winehq
[21:24] <lasko> nonroot: If its not, they would be the better resource to ask
[21:24] <OerHeks> !wine
[21:24] <nonroot> ty
[21:25] <nonroot> im all ready in WineHQ channel, but thanks anyway
[21:25] <OerHeks> It would be the same channel, linux/mac.
[21:27] <tamps> Got it. Using "sed 'N;s/\n/ /' filename" to merge two lines into one. Thank you geirha for the hint (Y)
[21:32] <torak4897> quit
[21:33] <fearnothing> nevermind, found the answer
[21:33] <fearnothing> the domain setting is duplicated in the config.php file, it was the other one which affected the login page.
[21:35] <woodennails> Just installed Linux and wondering how I go about sorting my drives/folders, I have everything installed to my SSD at the minute and my other internal HD's are just sitting there... what would you guys reccomend? I will be storing my videos pictures etc on this other hard drive
[21:43] <ki7mt> woodennails, Is this a dualboot or native Linux installation ?
[21:45] <katronix> Hi all, I have an Ubuntu server that I want to run https://github.com/wkhtmltopdf/wkhtmltopdf on, which unfortunately requires portions of X Windows. I know generally its not a good idea to install X on a server, however is there someway to see the minimum this app requires and install just that?
[21:47] <woodennails> ki7mt, native
[21:47] <Spec-Chum> woodennails, I do that, I've got Ubunut on my SSD then use my NTFS drives for storage and just link the folders
[21:47] <Spec-Chum> Ubuntu
[21:48] <Spec-Chum> I can, for example, download something on windows and us it in Linux and vice versa
[21:48] <Spec-Chum> *use
[21:48] <Spec-Chum> woodennails, welcome to the wonderful world of Linux :)
[21:48] <Jordan_U> katronix: "wkhtmltopdf and wkhtmltoimage are command line tools to render HTML into PDF and various image formats using the QT Webkit rendering engine. These run entirely "headless" and do not require a display or display service."
[21:49] <ki7mt> woodennails, for me, the easiest way to access NTFS drives is via Samba, but if you have no plans on going back to Windows, you may want to back up the files, and convert them to EXT4 and create mount points for them, then add the drives to your FSTAB
[21:49] <reisio> s/QT/Qt/
[21:49] <katronix> Jordan_U, yes, however if you try to install it it does need the fonts xfonts-base and xfonts-75dpi
[21:50] <Suek0> hi
[21:50] <reisio> katronix: and those draw in X?
[21:50] <reisio> Suek0: heyo
[21:50] <Spec-Chum> ki7mt, I'm curious, why via samba?
[21:50] <Jordan_U> katronix: OK, so install those.
[21:50] <Spec-Chum> why not just use mount them ntfs-3g?
[21:51] <ki7mt> Spec-Chum, It's just quick and easy. But I also use SSHFS.
[21:51] <Spec-Chum> ki7mt, oh, they're networked drives?
[21:51] <ki7mt> Spec-Chum, Some are, some are native.
[21:52] <katronix> Jordan_U, instead of apt-get telling me everything having that has dependencies can I tell it to get everything needed to run whatever?
[21:52] <ki7mt> Spec-Chum, Like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11032536/
[21:52] <katronix> xfonts-base : Depends: xfonts-utils (>= 1:7.5+2)
[21:53] <Spec-Chum> fair enough :)
[21:59] <Jordan_U> katronix: apt-get can only resolve dependencies for things that you install via .deb packages, but if you "sudo apt-get install xfonts-base" it will install xfonts base and all of its dependencies and recommendations. If you want to just install xfont-base's dependencies but not recommendations then you can use "sudo apt-get install xfonts-base --no-recommends".
[22:00] <katronix> Jordan_U, thanks
[22:00] <Jordan_U> katronix: You're welcome.
[22:02] <katronix> Jordan_U, is it possible to ask dpkg where a file will be installed at?
[22:02] <geirha> tamps: Ah was that the goal? then this is another solution:  paste - - < file1 > file2
[22:04] <katronix> Jordan_U, nm I found it :)
[22:05] <Mike_Oxbig> hello everyone
[22:05] <Mike_Oxbig> i will answer any ubuntu question
[22:05] <Johnny_Linux> any ?
[22:05] <Mike_Oxbig> yes
[22:06] <Johnny_Linux> what color is my de
[22:06] <Mike_Oxbig> it's whatever color you set it in the settings
[22:06] <geirha> blue
[22:06] <geirha> no, yellooooooo...
[22:06] <Jordan_U> Mike_Oxbig: There is no need to announce that you are going to provide support, simply wait for someone to ask a question you can help with and help.
[22:06] <vonsyd0w> purple, duh...
[22:08] <media> hi
[22:08] <Mike_Oxbig> hi
[22:09] <media> any1 herer experienced with ubuntu mate for rspberry pi 2 ?
[22:09] <media> hare*
[22:09] <media> here**
[22:11] <media> hi
[22:12] <reisio> hiyo
[22:14] <ki7mt> media, That's not an unofficial distro if I recall, while Ubuntu-Mate is official, I don't think AMv7 is supported.
[22:17] <OerHeks> I think it is a community version https://ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi/
[22:23] <ki7mt> OerHeks, Yeah, Ubuntu-Mate org supports RPI, but not Ubuntu proper.
[22:24] <nicholas> 1
[22:25] <nicholas> Hey how can i get help with something?
[22:25] <reisio> ubuntu supports certain rpis
[22:25] <reisio> nicholas: by asking for help with something
[22:26] <nicholas> ok well, i just installed ubuntu 14. and there is no wifi.
[22:26] <yyyyzzzz> Anyone here use google-chrome/chromium and chromecast tab (googlecast)  with success?
[22:26] <kokut> nicholas: how are you here then?
[22:26] <yyyyzzzz> lol eth maybe?
[22:26] <nicholas> ethernet cord
[22:27] <kokut> nicholas: wow thats smart
[22:27] <nicholas> yes there was a way to connect to the internet before starbucks wifi
[22:27] <ki7mt> reisio, I think Ubuntu Snappy is for Amrv7. I'd have to go look, things are changing at a rapid pace in the convergence arena.
[22:28] <nicholas> ok so...
[22:28] <kokut> nicholas: u have any more valuable data
[22:28] <nicholas> alright so...there is no option to turn on wifi.
[22:29] <kokut> nicholas u have any other info we might find helpful
[22:30] <reisio> not all rpis have the same hardware, too
[22:30] <k1l_> nicholas: "lspci" to tell us which wifi car docu got exactl
[22:30] <k1l_> y
[22:30] <yyyyzzzz> lspci | grep -i wireless
[22:30] <nicholas> kokut, when i go to Additional Drives. it searches for additional drives then says "No additional drivers available"
[22:31] <LinuxFan47> I have a broadcom bluetooth in my laptop but I am unable to get it workin.  Can anyone help with this?
[22:32] <kokut> nicholas what hardware are u runnin ubuntu on?
[22:32] <nicholas> Kokut, As in my computer? it's a Lenovo Edge 15.
[22:35] <ObrienDave> !broadcom | LinuxFan47
[22:35] <tamps> Can some1 tell me why this dont work? "find . -type f -name "*.strm" -exec cat streamkey >> {}\;"
[22:36] <LinuxFan47> This is adifferent device. Itisbluetooth and doesn't even see it.
[22:36] <kokut> nicholas: what exactly is the error message or whatever?
[22:36] <MonkeyDust> tamps  omit the >>
[22:36] <LinuxFan47> It worked fine back when I was usin xp
[22:36] <salim> sly
[22:36] <salim> slt
[22:37] <salim> bonsoir
[22:38] <tamps> MonkeyDust, dont work :/
[22:38] <adsjlkdk> is there some auto chroot program on ubuntu
[22:38] <salim> sorry i not spk englich
[22:39] <k1l_> !fr | salim
[22:39] <nicholas> from the research ive done, by just googleing "no wifi ubuntu 14.04" alot of the people are saying to go to 'System Settings' then 'Software & Updates' then 'Additional Drivers' then there should be an option to choose....but there is none. all it says is "No Additional Drivers Available"
[22:39] <k1l_> nicholas: why dont you just provide the sepcific data we requested?
[22:40] <ObrienDave> that would be too easy ;P
[22:40] <nicholas> What exactly do you need to know?
 nicholas: "lspci" to tell us which wifi car docu got exactl
[22:41] <nicholas> No idea what that means.
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> tamps  replace cat with grep
[22:41] <MonkeyDust> and omit the >>
[22:41] <k1l_> nicholas: type "lspci" into a terminal and show us the output in a pastebin
[22:42] <nicholas> k
[22:42] <mmercer> the button placement is weird.. but i have had no issues with it thus far
[22:42] <mmercer> doh
[22:43] <nicholas> here ya go
[22:43] <nicholas> http://pastebin.com/UZNi7xmb
[22:44] <nicholas> Does that help?
[22:45] <yyyyzzzz> 02:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros Device 0041 (rev 20)
[22:45] <yyyyzzzz> that is your wifi card
   Alright. what do i need to do knowing that info now?
[22:47] <nicholas> cause supposively my wifi card might be turned off or something
[22:47] <yyyyzzzz> modinfo ath9k | grep 0041
[22:48] <yyyyzzzz> what is the output
[22:49] <nicholas> Anything? <k1l_>
[22:49] <JustSighDudes> Anyone know how much RAM ubuntu server uses out of the box?
[22:49] <JustSighDudes> Or approx?
[22:50] <LinuxFan47> I am outa here,  I guess noone can help.
[22:50] <nicholas> How does one going about turning on their wifi card
[22:51] <yyyyzzzz> nicholas: type this into the terminal: modinfo ath9k | grep 0041
[22:51] <yyyyzzzz> nicholas: what is the output of that command?
[22:52] <nicholas> alias:          pci:v0000168Cd00000036sv0000144Dsd0000411Ebc*sc*i*
[22:52] <nicholas> alias:          pci:v0000168Cd00000036sv0000144Dsd0000411Dbc*sc*i*
[22:52] <nicholas> alias:          pci:v0000168Cd00000036sv0000144Dsd0000411Cbc*sc*i*
[22:52] <nicholas> alias:          pci:v0000168Cd00000036sv0000144Dsd0000411Bbc*sc*i*
[22:52] <nicholas> alias:          pci:v0000168Cd00000036sv0000144Dsd0000411Abc*sc*i*
[22:52] <nicholas> alias:          pci:v0000168Cd00000032sv0000144Dsd0000410Fbc*sc*i*
[22:54] <MonkeyDust> nicholas  nest time, use a pastebin for multiple lines
[22:54] <MonkeyDust> next*
 Yeah my bad
[22:56] <adriaan> hi there
[22:57] <ObrienDave> Greetings & Welcome
[22:58] <ki7mt> JustSighDudes, I have a real small server 14.04 .. running only a Mirror, and it sits right at 650 MB, but Im sure that could be trimmed down for unwanted services.
[23:00] <adriaan> hi there
[23:00] <tamps> MonkeyDust, thanks for help. This worked for me "-exec sh -c 'cat streamkey >> {}' \;"
[23:00] <SchrodingersScat> Greetings & Welcome
[23:00] <adriaan> I have a question in ubuntu 15.04
[23:00] <reisio> adriaan: prove it
[23:01] <adriaan> how do you disable the alt right click  menu
[23:04] <Streix> hi
[23:04] <Streix> i cant conncet my raspberry pi to router
[23:04] <Streix> it's stuck on read mode system file
[23:04] <reisio> on what?
[23:05] <Streix> read mode system file reisio
[23:05] <adriaan> ubuntu 15.04 unity
[23:05] <ki7mt> Streix, Which image did you use ?
[23:05] <ObrienDave> !ask | adriaan
[23:05] <Streix> none image
[23:05] <reisio> Streix: what?
[23:05] <MonkeyDust> tamps  glad you found it
[23:06] <Streix> resio: nothing
[23:06] <ki7mt> Streix, well, that would be a good start, installing an RPI image.
[23:07] <ObrienDave> there must be something in the air ;P
[23:07] <Streix> i have sdhc card on rpi and it stuck on read mode system file ki7mt:
[23:07] <ki7mt> Streix, Of which, non-are officially supported, apart from Maybe Snappy for the RPI2
[23:08] <ki7mt> Streix, Sorry, but I dont see this as a Ubuntu support issue.
[23:08] <ObrienDave> Streix, if your sdhc is stuck in read only mode, the card probably went bad. i had that happen last month
[23:08] <Streix> ki7mt: np
[23:08] <Streix> but i paid 80$ FOR RPI B+
[23:08] <ObrienDave> oh well
[23:09] <Streix> how can i copy!!!
[23:09] <ObrienDave> buy a new card, copy it. seriously?
[23:09] <Streix> this is all my money
[23:09] <Streix> can i send report to company?
[23:10] <ObrienDave> couldn't tell you
[23:10] <LinuxFan47> I need help with bluetooth, please.
[23:10] <LinuxFan47> Linuxdoesn't see it for some reason but it is there.
[23:10] <bazhang> !bluetooth | LinuxFan47 have a read
[23:11] <LinuxFan47> Been there and didn't help.
[23:11] <bazhang> Streix, ##hardware for this
[23:12] <bazhang> what exact issue are you having then LinuxFan47 , what version of ubuntu, what chipset for the bluetooth, what have you tried so far, include all error messages in a pastebin and or one line
[23:14] <LinuxFan47> Linux doesn't see the bluetooth device at all and it broadcom bcm90245nmd and I tried lookin around for info including the bluetooth ubuntu setup page and get nowhere.
[23:15] <thanius> hi, i'm trying to change default session for automatic login in 15.05, but it doesn't work.
[23:15] <thanius> can anyone help?
[23:16] <thanius> default session can be changed, but not for autologin
[23:16] <LinuxFan47> There is a button on the side of the tablet pc I believe is aswitch forbluetooth but doesn't do anything.
[23:16] <JustSighDudes> ki7mt: What's Mirror? And I just started an instance on amazon and it was using 80MB
[23:16] <bazhang> LinuxFan47, is this mint or ubuntu
[23:16] <LinuxFan47> Ubuntu mate 14.04
[23:16] <LinuxFan47> Just installed.HP TC4400 tablet pc
[23:23] <ki7mt> JustSighDudes, Ubuntu Repo Mirror with deb-mirror.
[23:24] <ki7mt> JustSighDudes, I can't speak to Amazon Images, this is a small HP mini box I suck a full LAMP server on.
[23:25] <bsjp> join #bitcoin
[23:25] <bsjp> ouposs
[23:28] <JFlash> help
[23:29] <JFlash> suddenly I can no longer resize my windows by dragging on the edges
[23:29] <JFlash> I have too much stuff going on to be able to reboot
[23:29] <JFlash> any quick fix that doesnt require me to reboot/
[23:29] <JFlash> ?
[23:29] <LinuxFan47> Are ya runnincompiz?
[23:30] <LinuxFan47> Runnin compiz
[23:30] <LinuxFan47> That might be it
[23:30] <JFlash> vanilla latest ubuntu
[23:30] <JFlash> so probably yes
[23:31] <JFlash> ah now what
[23:31] <JFlash> I remember I have some sort of program that supposedly tiles your windows
[23:31] <LinuxFan47> That should help
[23:31] <JFlash> and i clicked inadvertly on it a few times, just by mistake
[23:31] <JFlash> no I think it's the culprit
[23:32] <JFlash> I should try and kill its process
[23:32] <JFlash> how do I kill x-tile?
[23:32] <LinuxFan47> Look for system monitor and run it and look for x-tile
[23:33] <JFlash> i think i'm running unity
[23:34] <JFlash> because there are a lot of unity things listed
[23:34] <JFlash> is that the same thing as compiz?
[23:34] <LinuxFan47> Not that I am aware.
[23:36] <Firevenant> hi!
[23:36] <Firevenant> anyone here?
[23:37] <LinuxFan47> Have ya tried changin the appearance o theme to see if that helps?
[23:37] <LinuxFan47> I am noone so I am not here.  lol
[23:37] <Firevenant> hi noone
[23:37] <LinuxFan47> lol
[23:38] <Firevenant> can i ask you a question Noone?
[23:38] <LinuxFan47> I am here tryin to get bluetooth workin
[23:38] <LinuxFan47> Sure
[23:38] <Firevenant> aw shit :(
[23:38] <Firevenant> great!
[23:38] <guardianx> jhk
[23:39] <Firevenant> ok, so...i want to refresh my windows machine( win 8.1) and i'm not sure if it will delete Ubuntu (it's on another partition but i've already fiddled with my electronic stuff so much(and broke it) that i'm scared of deleting Ubuntu
[23:40] <Firevenant> Got any idea of what will happen? just the Win 8.1 reinstalling and not deleting the other partition?
[23:40] <LinuxFan47> refresh as arestore of WIndows 8?
[23:40] <Firevenant> yes!
[23:41] <LinuxFan47> Once you restore WIn 8 it will go back to defaults and ubuntu won't be seen.   If after that you can't boot Ubuntu, come back here and we'll help you get Ubuntu booting again. Note that Windows' default (if I recall correctly) *is* to whipe the entire drive, so you will need to be careful not to accidentally do that.
[23:46] <Firevenant> thank you!
[23:46] <Jordan_U> Firevenant: You're welcome.
[23:48] <hide__> 2950
[23:48] <hide__> 2950
[23:48] <LinuxFan47> Once XP went outa supportI left Windows behind.
[23:53] <olabaz> hey, is there a usb power save setting on by default on ubuntu?
[23:53] <xangua> olabaz: you might wanna check TLP (you need to add third party repository) http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
[23:54] <olabaz> xangua, hmm, I'm wondering because some of my usb ports don't work and I read online about an autosuspend
[23:55] <xangua> olabaz: if they didn't work from the beggining don't think my suggestion helps
[23:56] <LinuxFan47> bazhang any clues?
[23:59] <matze-x> searching for live sets from john digweed...who can help?