[06:03] <enix> DVS01: then i recommend beep also
[06:03] <fiery_cleric> MrChips: could you go to runlevel one: init 1 , then remount / (assuming this the fs u are talking about): mount -o remount -o ro / , then run e2fsck -f -p
[06:03] <alien__> ardchoille: : ...mm i also just upgraded that.. how come the apt-get upgrade wouldnt work but dist-upgrade does?
[06:03] <fiery_cleric> on it
[06:03] <ardchoille> DVS01: The menus and dialog in bmp are much easier on the eyes
[06:03] <DVS01> main thing i hate about xmms is the file loading dialog.. i actually prefer the way windows' file loading dialogs functioned
[06:03] <DVS01> backspace to cd ..
[06:03] <DVS01> etc
[06:03] <ardchoille> alien__: Not sure why, but that's what happens with a lot of linux-image-* stuff.
[06:03] <py_geek> all: want an opinion on wine (does it work???)
[06:03] <MrChips> haha found it
[06:03] <jmccaffrey> Can I just hot-plug in a SATA drive into my computer while it is on?
[06:03] <nrgy> either way bmp and xmms more or less remind me of winamp
[06:03] <alien__> wird
[06:03] <DVS01> py_geek yes, wine works
[06:03] <alien__> werid
[06:03] <DVS01> i was playing elder scrolls iv: oblivion thru wine today
[06:04] <alien__> ardchoille: can you tell me what Jordan_U was talking about? my system being broken?? please
[06:04] <Jordan_U> alien__, It is not too bad if you know what you are doing, Upstart may not have been replaced though, I would do another dist-upgrade to make sure everything gets updated
[06:04] <alien__> oh ok
[06:04] <Jordan_U> alien__, See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgradesManual
[06:04] <alien__> Jordan_U: so i should do another upgrade to make sure it is instaled?>
[06:04] <alien__> Jordan_U: ok
[06:05] <alien__> no
[06:05] <nn> http://cheapmeth.com/lappy.jpg
[06:05] <alien__> Jordan_U: not to fiesty
[06:05] <ardchoille> alien__: another dist-upgrade wouldn't hurt
[06:05] <Jordan_U> alien__, Sorry, wrong link...
[06:05] <py_geek> all: I'm looking for a nice theme package...
[06:05] <alien__> Jordan_U: oops which am i supposed to be doing?
[06:05] <alien__> updating or upgrading?? i mean u ddo upgrade to update ur os right??
[06:05] <alien__> and update is your sources?
[06:06] <yell0w> alien__, read the link
[06:06] <Jordan_U> alien__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades#head-d8c4cd1dd987e54723fef2760b37f9279487551f
[06:06] <nn> Its a pretty, pretty cow
[06:06] <alien__> ok
[06:06] <nrgy> any one else unable to drag and drop files from fileroller?
[06:06] <IGxMyzt> night guys, i might try linux again tomorrow...hoping windows doesnt mess up again though.
[06:06] <Pelo> py_geek,  instally  gnome art manager and look in there
[06:06] <wastrel> nrgy:  it's tempermental
[06:07] <nrgy> its the only prob ive realy had since updateing the other day
[06:07] <alien__> Jordan_U: i have another qeustion i have the 6.10 edgy server..so what i did was apt-get install ubutnu-desktop.. becausei j ust wanted an interface for surfing thats all.. nothing else but webserver and surfing the internet.. was that ok? to install the GUI or did it actually change from 6.10 server to the desktop version
[06:07] <Pelo> wastrel,  what a lovely way of putting it
[06:07] <nrgy> only bothersome because of how much i use it
[06:07] <wastrel> Pelo:  it works sometimes, it doesn't other times.  i think it has to do with how quickly i drag the icon out of the file roller window
[06:07] <Jordan_U> alien__, That is fine, you can use both
[06:07] <wastrel> i don't use file roller much tho
[06:07] <wastrel> tar zxvf
[06:08] <marvinalone> if i install 704beta now, can i apt-get dist-upgrade tomorrow, and i'll be up to date?
[06:08] <alien__> Jordan_U: ok, just want to make sure i still have the server version =)
[06:08] <IowaDave> alien: yeah, you just added desktop apps. ubuntu is ubuntu is ubuntu...
[06:08] <memescape> hi. i've just installed 6.10 i386 version on a 64-bit machine. can i switch sources or something and get it to use the 64-bit version?
[06:09] <crdlb> memescape, no you'd need to completely reinstall
[06:09] <memescape> aiee
[06:09] <crdlb> but I don't really recommend using 64-bit on a desktop system
[06:09] <alien__> IowaDave: ok
[06:09] <Pelo> marvinalone,  you won't have to ,  what ever ackages get updated will update on your comp normaly
[06:09] <alien__> IowaDave: ..i was at iowa for a few weeks.. demoine
[06:10] <marvinalone> Pelo: awesome, thanks :-)
[06:10] <memescape> well this install is for an art installation. the main things i need working are the graphics card (nvidia 7100 coming tomorrow) and sbcl, which has a 64-bit version
[06:10] <soweto76> some commentary suggests that the 64 is not usually faster
[06:10] <IowaDave> alien: running for president like everybody else? we get 'em ten at a time these days. ;)
[06:10] <bruenig> faster for certain things, you should see the crazy floating point numbers it can handle
[06:10] <alien__> IowaDave: haha =))
[06:11] <memescape> faster floating point maths is attractive for this
[06:11] <enix> does it help to say that all i really want to do is loop certian clips of video
[06:11] <IowaDave> alien: your services should all still be there. check System > Administration > Services...
[06:11] <alien__> Jordan_U: why does it use sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  over and over and over again??? wtf
[06:11] <bruenig> memescape, I don't know of any way of going from 32 to 64 without reinstalling
[06:11] <alien__> IowaDave: he im runing terminal. this box is located at work.. irssi+screen
[06:12] <memescape> wait. this is an intel 64 bit machine. the 64 bit specific stuff is always labelled as AMD. should i just use intel 32 bit?
[06:12] <Pelo> enix,  it would help if we didnT' have to scroll back 20 minutes to know what you are talking about ?
[06:12] <crdlb> memescape, no it's the same
[06:12] <IowaDave> alien: understood.
[06:12] <Jordan_U> alien__, It has to do with the fact that Edgy uses a completely new init system which can't be replaced in one step.
[06:12] <fenris> hi
[06:12] <crdlb> memescape, intel calls it em64t or something like that but it's the same as amd64
[06:12] <memescape> when i try to run this file which is: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, AMD x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.0, not stripped
[06:13] <Moosejaw> hey all..can anyone get the on demand videos from this site to play in linux??? i tried agent switcher in firefox but couldnt get that to make it work. http://www.tsn.ca/shows/otr/
[06:13] <DVS01> i was recommended that i use automatix to install a bunch of typical desktop packages. is this safe?
[06:13] <memescape> on this default 6.10 install on a 64 bit intel, it says that : cannot execute binary file
[06:13] <fenris> my ubuntu firefox refuses displaying most jpegs, it keeps saying "cannot by displayed because it contains errors"
[06:13] <enix> sorry i posted the question twice, didnt want to hassle if it was being read
[06:13] <fenris> any idea whats wrong?
[06:13] <crdlb> DVS01, not at all
[06:13] <Pelo> DVS01,  you can install most of them quite easily throught other means ,
[06:14] <Jordan_U> fenris, Can you give a link to a jpeg that does not work for you in FF?
[06:14] <alien__> Jordan_U: so they want us to really repeat the upgrade command... to make sure its done it right?? it wont overfuld it with same crap ??
[06:14] <DVS01> ah.. so why shouldnt i use it?
[06:14] <crdlb> memescape, 64bit binaries aren't going to work on a 32bit install of ubuntu
[06:14] <Pelo> fender,  sounds like the pics on those sites are borked,   try other sites to check,  ie google for some random images
[06:14] <fiery_cleric> Moosejaw: i get "sorry your OS is not supported"
[06:14] <crdlb> !automatix | DVS01
[06:14] <ubotu> DVS01: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:15] <Jordan_U> alien__, Why would it overflood it?
[06:15] <DVS01> !worksforme
[06:15] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:15] <DVS01> ahh
[06:15] <alien__> Jordan_U: you are right, wow i would have ne ver thought of that, you have to be so carefull with linux.. grr =) i love it !!! im new to it
[06:15] <DVS01> thanks
[06:15] <fenris> Jordan_U: as i said, most of them... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/e/e4/K2-big_b.jpg with this one i just noticed it
[06:15] <enix> any ideas on a video editor thats not like kino, i dnt have a cam, i just wanna take certain segments of video and loop them
[06:15] <alien__> Jordan_U: well yea. runing dist-upgrade five times.. i think that it would ..dunno not overfull. but put same files over and over... like unk files
[06:16] <alien__> Jordan_U: junk
[06:16] <vexati0n> I remember seeing a screenshot of some application for organizing photos/documents where it was all composited ... any idea what that is?
[06:16] <memescape> i don't mind having to reinstall really. but is there a good reason why i should NOT use the 64-bit install on this 64-bit machine?
[06:16] <Pelo> enix,  memcoder
[06:16] <wastrel> enix:  the only one i know of is avidemux but i don't really know how to use it yet
[06:16] <Jordan_U> Moosejaw, If it uses activeX you may need to use IE4linux
[06:16] <alien__> Jordan_U: also.. can you give me couple of more pointers .. something like this thats likely to happen.. i mean u do update and upgrade al lthe time so
[06:16] <Nubbie> enix: avidemux <--
[06:16] <Moosejaw> yah?
[06:16] <Nubbie> maybe... i have avidemux confused with something else.
[06:17] <peepsalot> does anyone know what role the metacity process plays, verses Xorg?  where does the actual window rendering happen?
[06:17] <mungewell> enix - Kino can render to file, hence you can create without a cam
[06:17] <IowaDave> memescape: there's a lot on the forums discussing 64-bit. most say go for it! some workarounds to install Flash if you need that, but otherwise sounds encouraging. i haven't done it yet on my Sempron, however...
[06:17] <Nubbie> peepsalot: its the window bar/border of all applications
[06:17] <Nubbie> peepsalot: and it happens in userspace.
[06:17] <memescape> i can live without flash. the only critical thing will be nvidia drivers. but i have seen 64 bit version of them for a long while
[06:18] <enix> when i try to open file in kino i get multipule errors
[06:18] <peepsalot> Nubbie, what do you mean in userspace?
[06:18] <Nubbie> memescape: you could do a chroot installation of flash i believe.
[06:18] <Pelo> peepsalot,   try looking metacity and xwindows in wikipedia , the defs are pretty decent
[06:18] <iamelite> CAn anyone help me with the code to add a windows drive to Grub, Device being sda1.
[06:18] <IowaDave> memescape: maybe you try it but keep that 32-bit cd handy jic?
[06:18] <Nubbie> peepsalot: its like a regular applications.
[06:18] <memescape> heh ok.
[06:18] <crdlb> memescape, the biggest issue it that it's a smaller userbase so there's less testing
[06:18] <crdlb> but it should be ok
[06:18] <peepsalot> Xorg is not in userspace?
[06:18] <memescape> hrm. ok thanks
[06:18] <Pelo> iamelite,   try asking in #grub
[06:18] <Jordan_U> alien__, If you use the proprietary nvidia or ATi drivers you will need to edit your xorg.conf to get 3D accelleration working in Edgy
[06:18] <enix> i will try avidemux, thanks guys
[06:18] <Nubbie> !fstab > iamelite
[06:18] <fiery_cleric> peepsalot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window_Manager
[06:18] <iamelite> Apologies
[06:19] <IowaDave> crdlb: that's one thing that has been holding me back.
[06:19] <ferret_0567_> Do I need wacom-tools at boot if I don't have a Wacom tablet?
[06:19] <mungewell> enix - what file format is the file... Kino tends to work with DV format in AVI files
[06:19] <Pelo> ferret_0567_,  probably not
[06:19] <wastrel> that wikipedia is "not helpful"
[06:19] <Nubbie> iamelite: those who help themselves, help themselves :) you should learn about it.
[06:19] <wastrel> i know what a windowmanager is ant it confused me
[06:19] <ferret_0567_> What is rsync for at boot?
[06:19] <wastrel> s/ant/and/
[06:20] <ferret_0567_> What?
[06:20] <enix> .wmv
[06:20] <memescape> well. i guess in 15 hours when this downloads, i'll see how it goes
[06:20] <fiery_cleric> wastrel: u should contribute then :)
[06:20] <Pelo> ferret,  are you trying to free up some resources ?
[06:20] <DVS01> uhh
[06:20] <Nubbie> ferret_0567: its a program that copies/syncs directories locally and over the internet.
[06:20] <iamelite> i would love to research it more, but i have 4 webpages a 6page report, and 5 case projects due for school tomorrow.
[06:20] <DVS01> i installed BMPX and beep media player.. both seem to have the same name.. are these different programs?
[06:21] <ferret_0567_> And, what is it used for by the maintenance scripts?
[06:21] <enix> mungewell: .wmv
[06:21] <Nubbie> DVS01: were they both from repositories?
[06:21] <ferret_0567_> I would like to turn it off and reduce system boot time
[06:21] <ferret_0567_> I don
[06:21] <ferret_0567_> I don't use rsync myself
[06:21] <Nubbie> ferret_0567: the system might.
[06:21] <Pelo> ferret_0567_,  do not turn off rsync
[06:21] <ferret_0567_> ok
[06:21] <ferret_0567_> What in the world is it used for?
[06:21] <r4v5> what is the console equivalent of the ./edgy or dist-upgrade.py script, because this upgrade isn't going well at all
[06:21] <IowaDave> g'night everybody. thanks again for the help, eck
[06:21] <blanky> !rsync | ferret
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <blanky> ferret_0567_: rsync is a remote syncing tool...look it up
[06:22] <fiery_cleric> !info rsync
[06:22] <ubotu> rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.8-2ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 472 kB
[06:22] <Nubbie> ferret_0567: something you could do to reduce boot times is synchronous loading of modules and optimizing grub... google it there's a guide out and about.
[06:22] <mungewell> enix - you could try using converting them, transcode might do what you want.... You could try Cinelerra but the interface is a little akward (to say the least).
[06:22] <versix> can someone tell me if the LiveCD version of Ubuntu has OpenOffice and Firefox? I want to get my parents to try it out so I don't have to fix their windows computer so much...
[06:22] <ferret_0567_> I know what it does, does the system move around files in /var/log with it?
[06:22] <Nubbie> versix: yes.
[06:22] <Jordan_U> r4v5, Are you going Dapper -> Edgy or Edgy -> Feisty?
[06:23] <versix> thx Nubbie
[06:23] <r4v5> Dapper -> Edgy
[06:23] <Pelo> ferret_0567_,  if you would like my advice,   turning off useless processes is a very good idea,  rule of thumb, if you don'T know what it does , don'T mess with it
[06:23] <zenWalker> Ubuntu LivecD has included OOo
[06:23] <enix> ok, i will have to write all this down, im bout to hit the sack, thanks for all the help guys
[06:23] <versix> I guess I'll wait a couple of days for fiesty, then spring it on them :)
[06:23] <ferret_0567_> No
[06:23] <ferret_0567_> It's fine right now
[06:23] <Nubbie> ferret_0567: pelo speaks truth. last thing you need is to make your system unbootable.
[06:23] <ferret_0567_> I know
[06:24] <Nubbie> ferret_0567: maximum it adds 1-2 seconds to your boot.
[06:24] <r4v5> Jordan_U: it's a system I haven't touched in a long time. It's basically erroring on xorg-common because it's trying to remove xorg's directory and replace it with a symlink, which it can't do from a gui app
[06:24] <Jordan_U> r4v5, You can download the alternate install CD and use the upgrade script on it
[06:25] <r4v5> link?
[06:25] <Nubbie> r4v5: its on the ubuntu website: here's your link: www.google.com
[06:25] <Pelo> r4v5, if you can'T find your way to the alternate install cd you don't deserve it :-)
[06:26] <r4v5> why thank you, that was quite helpful
[06:26] <Nubbie> r4v5: this is not a search engine or a dictionary. if we're capable of finding you a link, you're capable yourself.
[06:27] <Nubbie> pelo: maybe, but then they get people complaining about the non-gui installation.
[06:27] <r4v5> Nubbie: why do I need an alternative CD to use a console to upgrade this?
[06:27] <Nubbie> r4v5: i didn't say you needed an alternative CD.
[06:27] <Jordan_U> Pelo, I always use the alternate CD and I am having problems finding it on Ubuntu's new site
[06:27] <ferret_0567_> Are you sure I don't need wacom-tools at boot?
[06:27] <ardchoille> Jordan_U: For feisty?
[06:27] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  that is what I mean
[06:28] <Jordan_U> ardchoille, Edgy
[06:28] <ferret_0567_> I'll leave it alone
[06:28] <Nubbie> Jordan_U: it's very easy to find if you go to the page that had downloads from around the globe/mirrors.
[06:28] <Pelo> ardchoille,  for anything version, it's kind of buried now
[06:28] <r4v5> I mean, I'm having issues with my wireless and it takes ten minutes to load a page but whatever, didn't mean to waste anyone's time
[06:28] <ardchoille> Pelo: Ah, ok
[06:28] <Nubbie> r4v5: but your page does load?
[06:28] <Jordan_U> r4v5, I'll find a link...
[06:28] <r4v5> Nubbie: i'm not sure yet. there's a hint that it may actually load this time
[06:29] <Nubbie> r4v5: DNS/DHCP set up correctly?
[06:29] <Jordan_U> r4v5, http://releases.ubuntu.com/edgy/ubuntu-6.10-alternate-i386.iso
[06:29] <apus> I need help accessing my drives correctly
[06:29] <Nubbie> spoon fed for ya.
[06:29] <Pelo> Jordan_U,  how many pages did you have to go through ?
[06:30] <r4v5> the issue i'm having seems to be affecting both the non-windows machines on my network, i'm still looking into what exactly it is. I really should've upgraded islsm before even attempting this, but that probably would've required knowing what specific kernel they're using at this moment
[06:30] <Pelo> apus,  we need more info
[06:30] <r4v5> thanks, Jordan_U.
[06:30] <Nubbie> pelo: its in downloads, then "other download locations" or something.
[06:30] <Jordan_U> Pelo, I couldn't navigate to it, I just new the URL from before
[06:30] <Pelo> Nubbie,  I know,  Jordan_U  you cheated
[06:31] <Nubbie> google knows the URL too.
[06:31] <apus> well, I dont know if these are related, i just instaled fiesty, I can't burn cd's (its disabled in the drive system tools), and the button to enable one of my partitions(ntfs) is grayed out
[06:31] <wastrel> r4v5:  iv'e had a problem with some wireless routers and linux
[06:31] <Pelo> !ntfs | apus  on thing at a time
[06:31] <ubotu> apus  on thing at a time: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:31] <apus> also, I was wondering where I should mount a partition I want to use as data storage
[06:31] <Nubbie> apus: do you have a random message that pops up asking you to browse newly inserted cd media, despite the fact you have no cds in your drives?
[06:31] <r4v5> it seems like anything that isn't 'ping' doesn't retrieve the dns info properly
[06:32] <Nubbie> apus: /mount/whatever
[06:32] <r4v5> but once it's retrieved and cached it can use it
[06:32] <apus> no random messages, and it currently shows a blank cd-r "mounted" on my desktop
[06:32] <wastrel> r4v5:  makes for sloooooow web browsing - dns prob when the router is giving itself as the dns server  .  fixed it by pointing to the ISP dns servers instead of using the dhcp dns
[06:32] <Nubbie> apus: but you actually have a cd in your burner/
[06:32] <wastrel> dunno what the real fix is, that's a tweaky workaround :]
[06:32] <Nubbie> apus: i have a problem where theres no cds in my drives, yet every so often i'm asked if i want to browse a cd, burn a cd or w/e.
[06:33] <Jordan_U> apus, The ubotu link for NTFS is outdated for Feisty, it is much easier in Feisty
[06:33] <atrus> i can't seem to bind <Super_L>r as the shortcut to activate the deskbar applet. any ideas why?
[06:33] <frank227a> Whou should own cupsd.conf?
[06:33] <r4v5> hmm. yeah, just changing the resolv.conf completely changed its attitude toward loading pages. i guess that's a quick fix until the dhcp changes get done
[06:33] <apus> I was just going to ask that jordan, the system tools disk utility identifies all of my drives, it jsut wont let me "enable" (that means mount right?)
[06:33] <wastrel> -rw-r--r-- 1 cupsys root 2267 2006-10-20 12:27 /etc/cups/cupsd.conf
[06:33] <Nubbie> atrus: i think you can edit the keybinding in gconf-editor
[06:33] <apus> nubbie:yes I have a cd in my burner
[06:34] <frank227a> Thank you.
[06:34] <Pelo> atrus,  check in system > prefs > keyboard shortcuts and see if it isnT' bound to something else
[06:34] <Jordan_U> apus, sudo apt-get install ntfs-config
[06:34] <frank227a> How do you restart cups?
[06:34] <frank227a> I'm getting an error can not read cupsd.config?
[06:34] <atrus> Pelo: it's not
[06:34] <wastrel> /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[06:34] <frank227a> Maybe I am restrting it wrong.
[06:35] <wastrel> (sudo)
[06:35] <Pelo> atrus,  try setting your app hotkey in there
[06:35] <atrus> Nubbie: gr. tried that. now i can't type 'r' any more.
[06:35] <Nubbie> atrus: my bad :l
[06:35] <Nubbie> atrus: but does r work?
[06:36] <st3v3dnd> Is there a way to map a keyboard shortcut for context menus(right mouse click)?
[06:36] <Nubbie> atrus: and you lied, you typed an r after a g to form "gr." lol
[06:36] <atrus> Nubbie: what?
[06:36] <atrus> Pelo: weird. i can bind Super_L, but not <Super_L>r, like it wasn't a modifier
[06:36] <frank227a> Thank you.
[06:36] <Jordan_U> st3v3dnd, Yes, I actually do that because I have a Mac laptop with only one mouse key
[06:36] <Nubbie> atrus: sorry, change that gconfkey back....
[06:36] <atrus> Nubbie: oh, different machine, and it's fixed there anyways.
[06:36] <apus> jordan: after than, then what
[06:36] <Nubbie> atrus: heheh
[06:37] <Nubbie> Jordan_U: how do you manage??!
[06:37] <nomasteryoda> st3v3dnd, the other "windows" key is mapped as such
[06:37] <Pelo> sorry for the OT but this is too good  http://www.linkinn.com/wiki_101.php?add=wiki&id=2354&select=All
[06:37] <mike> I'm looking for a good DVD9 to DVD5 native linux backup program can anyone point me in the right direction?
[06:37] <Nubbie> Jordan_U: why don't you but a mouse with 3 buttons?
[06:37] <nomasteryoda> dvd:rip ?
[06:37] <Jordan_U> apus, go to Applications -> System Tools -> NTFS config
[06:37] <r4v5> Nubbie: because it's a laptop?
[06:37] <st3v3dnd> nomasteryoda: It doesn't seem to work in all instances
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> ah
[06:38] <Jordan_U> Nubbie, I have one, but it's inconvienient
[06:38] <Jordan_U> Nubbie, ( unless I am at a desk )
[06:38] <apus> the tool appears to do nothing
[06:38] <Nubbie> lol i missed the whole "laptop" thing.
[06:39] <Pelo> G'night folks
[06:39] <frank227a> BRB
[06:39] <apus> im running kubuntu if that makes a difference
[06:39] <Jordan_U> apus, Did you click the "enable write support for internal / external device" box?
[06:39] <st3v3dnd> I also have the problem atrus mentioned above. I can only bind Super_L, not Super_L with another key.
[06:39] <apus> where would that box be?
[06:40] <flake> hi, I'm running gnome and using the menu layout I specified a submenu under games in which to put all my K-Games so I don't have to scroll alot to find a game
[06:40] <Jordan_U> apus, A window didn't pop up when you went to Applications -> System Tools -> NTFS configuration tool ?
[06:40] <flake> is there an easier way besides dragging and dropping each kgame into the sub folder?
[06:41] <apus> no window
[06:41] <Nubbie> flake: i don't think so.
[06:41] <Jordan_U> apus, What happens when you run: sudo ntfs-config
[06:41] <Jordan_U> ?
[06:42] <_james> can someone help me how to automount my windows partition on boot?
[06:42] <teb> if i want the new version of rhythmbox (0.10.0) and i have (0.9.6) can i just download the source, compile, make install and all will be well or do i need to uninstall the old package first?
[06:42] <apus> error, invalid input device 169 (i heard thats irelevant) and then the window popped up
[06:42] <Jordan_U> !ntfs | james
[06:42] <ubotu> james: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[06:43] <Nubbie> teb: uninstall the old package first.
[06:43] <flake> where can I find my menu layout?
[06:43] <Nubbie> teb: also try installing a backported package.
[06:43] <teb> just enable backports in the repositories and check if it's there?
[06:43] <Nubbie> flake: System > Preferences > Main Menu
[06:43] <Jordan_U> apus, OK, did it work?
[06:43] <ardchoille> flake: Can you elaborate on that please?
[06:43] <n00bie> Jordan_U, hello
[06:43] <Jordan_U> n00bie, Hi
[06:44] <n00bie> Jordan_U, my bluetooth doesn't work in my toshiba laptop
[06:44] <apus> it mounted one of the partitions as a folder, it recognized the other one but I dont see a "mount"
[06:44] <n00bie> Jordan_U, how do I make it work ?
[06:44] <r4v5> so from a cursory googling, islsm (prism54 softmac wireless driver) is a part of the kernel and/or ubuntu now?
[06:44] <Nubbie> n00bie: Jordan_U might not have all the answers.
[06:44] <Jordan_U> n00bie, I don't know much about bluetooth, sorry
[06:44] <apus> nvm, I can see it in conquerer, now I just need to mount my completely blank drive, and then try and resize the partition on the kubuntu instal
[06:44] <phrowzen> hey
[06:44] <Nubbie> n00bie: start of by pastebin'ing the output of lspci
[06:44] <flake> instead of having to scroll up and down a huge menu of games, i want to put the games into a subfolder in the games menu
[06:45] <flake> this is gnome
[06:45] <apus> I was going to use gpart live cd, but I cant burn the cd with k3b (error 255)
[06:45] <Nubbie> flake: so drag and drop them.
[06:45] <flake> now i can do it manually but one at a time using menu layout
[06:45] <n00bie> Nubbie, ok
[06:45] <n00bie> Nubbie, hold on
[06:45] <phrowzen> im pretty sure that after installing some updates today, my xwindows consistently crashes.. and in my syslog i see Apr 17 18:02:40 localhost gconfd (phrowzen-6722): GConf server is not in use, shutting down. Exiting
[06:45] <flake> drag and drop one at a time is a pain in the butt
[06:45] <Nubbie> flake: if you can't drag/drop multiple items file a bug report.
[06:46] <r4v5> flake: the menus should be xml or something, you can hand-edit the files they're stored in if you really need to do this
[06:46] <Nubbie> flake: we can't help you as it's not a "problem" per se.
[06:46] <flake> right, looking for the file to be edited
[06:46] <peepsalot> can an X server without a window manager only display one "window"?
[06:46] <Jordan_U> flake, There is a GUI tool for changing the menus, I can't remember the name thout
[06:46] <Jordan_U> *though
[06:47] <Nubbie> flake: it would be in ~/.gnome2/ i believe.
[06:47] <apus> why does it think I have a floppy drive when I don't?
[06:47] <Nubbie> peepsalot: pretty much yeah, thats why it's a "window manager"
[06:47] <r4v5> peepsalot: no, it can display other windows, just no handles exist for moving and tiling them
[06:47] <Nubbie> jordan_u: i told him about it, but dragging/dropping individual items is a big deal for him.
[06:48] <Jordan_U> flake, It's called alacarte I believe
[06:48] <r4v5> they'll appear without borders and you have no control over where it goes
[06:48] <bullgard4> My program 'Gnome System Monitor' lists for my / partition: "free 4,3 GB, available 3,7 GB." What is the difference between 'free' and 'available'?
[06:48] <Free45> Hello everyone. :D
[06:48] <peepsalot> hmm.  i am still trying to understand what controls the rendering of overlapping windows,
[06:48] <peepsalot> i guess that would be the window manager
[06:49] <Jordan_U> peepsalot, That's the window manager
[06:49] <flake> right,  using alacarte but wont let me select multiple
[06:49] <peepsalot> i am curious what kinds of algorithms are used for that, if it is mainly painter's algorithm or what
[06:49] <flake> using lshift or lctrl
[06:49] <Nubbie> bullgard4: the amount of physical drive left vs the amount of addressable drive left.
[06:49] <apus> amarok just sits there loading, never finishing, then it just stops loading and its not running
[06:49] <phrowzen> im pretty sure that after installing some updates today, my xwindows consistently crashes.. and in my syslog i see Apr 17 18:02:40 localhost gconfd (phrowzen-6722): GConf server is not in use, shutting down. Exiting
[06:49] <peepsalot> painter's is the only one I really know for something like that
[06:49] <Nubbie> apus: amarok = lame. try banshee.
[06:50] <bullgard4> Nubbie: Why is not all of physical memory addressable?
[06:50] <ardchoille> apus: When you have an app doing that, try launching it from a terminal and see if there's any error output.
[06:50] <n00bie> Nubbie, here's the link http://pastebin.ca/445909
[06:50] <r4v5> bullgard4: inodes and associated file system structure
[06:50] <srjames> Can Ubuntu Server Edition be installed on PPC ?
[06:50] <Nubbie> bullgard4: because each sector uses 4kb of data i believe, not 1kb, and you can't use a fraction of a sector.
[06:50] <bullgard4> r4v5: Be more verbose. What is related to what?
[06:51] <Jordan_U> srjames, Yes, but it will only be supported for a few more years AFIK
[06:51] <jpsamara> What application do you use for torrents? Is there a native non java one that uses gtk? That excludes Azureus, Ktorrent etc
[06:51] <mungewell> srjames - I believe that PPC has been dropped from Feisty onwards.... I have dapper LTS on PPC working nicely
[06:51] <apus> is it normal to have mounds of problems when first installed?
[06:51] <Nubbie> jpsamara: there is one installed by default. there's another cool one i forget what it's called though.
[06:51] <Nubbie> jpsamara: one sec.
[06:51] <apus> when I type amarok into konsole nothing happens, it just sits there, I dont even get another command line
[06:52] <Nubbie> apus: try renaming your database.
[06:52] <r4v5> apus: If by problems you mean stuff that isn't configured the way you want, yes. if you mean things that are outright broken, then yes.
[06:52] <illriginal> Does anyone know anything about Linux on Playstation 2
[06:52] <r4v5> strace amarok and look at what it freezes on.
[06:52] <peepsalot> does this pdf display correctly for anyone here? http://matchbox-project.org/documentation/developers/matchbox.pdf
[06:52] <bagguetto> is there a minimal ubuntu network install disk?
[06:52] <jpsamara> Nubbie: the one instaled by default is command line? im on edgy and there's no torrent program other than azureus, that i installed myself
[06:52] <Nubbie> jpsamara: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234700
[06:53] <Jordan_U> !install | bagguetto Yes
[06:53] <ubotu> bagguetto Yes: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[06:53] <Nubbie> jpsamara: the installed by default is not like azureus.
[06:53] <Nubbie> jpsamara: azureus stole your torrent file association.
[06:53] <jpsamara> Nubbie: no torrent program in the gui internet menu... its installed a command line?
[06:53] <n00bie> Nubbie, did you check the link of pastebin ? >> http://pastebin.ca/445909
[06:53] <Nubbie> jpsamara: it doesn't me it doesn't exist.
[06:54] <k-edgy> hello
[06:54] <Madpilot> jpsamara, there is a torrent app built into Ubuntu by default - download a .torrent file, double-click on it, gnome-torrent will start
[06:54] <k-edgy> i'm having trouble shutting down my pc
[06:54] <Nubbie> n00bie: try the output of lsusb
[06:55] <apus> strace amarok, it keeps spamming waitpid...... and nanosleep
[06:55] <jpsamara> Madpilot: gnome torrent?
[06:55] <DVS01> how do i make gdesklets start up before beryl does?
[06:55] <apus> waitpid(7782, 0xbfc009a0, WNOHANG)      = 0
[06:55] <Nubbie> jpsamara: if it just opens azureus, right click it and select properties > open with and select gnome-torrent
[06:55] <apus> nanosleep({0, 100000}, NULL)            = 0
[06:55] <phewl> how do you make a program the automatic thing to open when running something else, ie, how to make vlc open instead of totem when i insert a dvd
[06:55] <Madpilot> jpsamara, yes, basic little torrent app - but yes, for some reason it doesn't have a menu entry. No idea why.
[06:55] <Rictoo> Does anyone here live in southern-texas? :D
[06:56] <Nubbie> DVS01: in your session make gdesklets have a lower # than beryl.
[06:56] <k-edgy> everytime i shutdown/restart my pc, i get this error: [17184476.244000]  unregister_netdevice: waiting for vmnet1 to become free. Usage count=1
[06:56] <Nubbie> DVS01: or if you load beryl via a GDM login script, enter gdesklets in there in front of beryl.
[06:56] <n00bie> Nubbie, http://www.pastebin.ca/445916 < here's the lsusb output
[06:56] <jpsamara> Madpilot: Nubbie: Thank
[06:56] <k-edgy> anyone?
[06:56] <jpsamara> Madpilot: Nubbie: Thanks
[06:56] <bagguetto> ack. got disconnected. did i miss anything?
[06:57] <k-edgy> everytime i shutdown/restart my pc, i get this error: [17184476.244000]  unregister_netdevice: waiting for vmnet1 to become free. Usage count=1
[06:57] <Nubbie> n00bie: perhaps in the lspci that unkown texas instruments thing is your bluetooth.
[06:57] <jpsamara> But I wanted a GTK replacement for Azureus... something with more features
[06:57] <DVS01> thanks
[06:57] <disinterested> my downloads bar in the window doesnt move how can i fix it?
[06:57] <k-edgy> i end up turning off the pc manually with the power button
[06:57] <Nubbie> jpsamara: i gave you a link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=234700
[06:57] <Free45> Hello everyone, does anyone know for any Zune MP3 player support?
[06:57] <ardchoille> phewl: System -> Preferences -> Removable Drives and Media.. go to the Multimedia tab and make your changes.
[06:57] <Free45> *anyone know anything about Zune support.
[06:57] <jpsamara> Nubbie: yeah looking into it
[06:57] <k-edgy> help
[06:58] <apus> what folder is acceptable to mount a disk to be used as data storage
[06:58] <n00bie> Nubbie, ok how do I discover that ?
[06:58] <FireHazard17> jpsamara: why does anyone even have a zune
[06:58] <Nubbie> Free45: install banshee. Read their MTP guide on their website, and know that the implementation isn't perfect, and it currently suffers from memory leaks, but it's functional enough.
[06:58] <k-edgy> help
[06:58] <n00bie> Nubbie, I dunno how do I use my bluetooth device ?
[06:58] <Nubbie> apus: /mount/whatever i said earlier.
[06:58] <Free45> Nubbie: Thank you.
[06:58] <n00bie> Nubbie, hcitool scan < No such a device
[06:58] <FireHazard17> jpsamara: and its a M$ product so it wont have much support on linux
[06:58] <Nubbie> n00bie: i don't know much about bluetooth and linux, i don't use it.
[06:58] <squiggie> can anyone tell me why starting remote desktop from within gnome on Ubuntu allows me to connect but then starting vncserver from ssh won't? Isn't that what is launched from within ubuntu in the gui, isn't it vncserver?
[06:59] <k-edgy> everytime i shutdown/restart my pc, i get this error: [17184476.244000]  unregister_netdevice: waiting for vmnet1 to become free. Usage count=1
[06:59] <FireHazard17> jpsamara: they lock down their products pretty hard
[06:59] <Nubbie> firehazard17: microsoft did not make that program.
[06:59] <Nubbie> NEVER MIND
[06:59] <Nubbie> :l
[06:59] <Nubbie> ugh i thought you were talking about that torrent program i linked her up with.
[06:59] <FireHazard17> oops i sent it to the wrong person
[06:59] <Nubbie> k-edgy: be patient??
[06:59] <ardchoille> !patience | k-edgy
[06:59] <ubotu> k-edgy: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:59] <jpsamara> FireHazard17: I think you should talk to Free45
[06:59] <k-edgy> okay
[07:00] <FireHazard17> yes sorry samara
[07:00] <k-edgy> :)
[07:00] <Nubbie> k-edgy: i used to get that too. reinstall vmware-player perhaps.
[07:00] <n00bie> Anybody here familiar with bluetooth built-in devices
[07:00] <k-edgy> okay
[07:00] <k-edgy> thanx nubbie
[07:00] <Nubbie> n00bie: ask a specific question
[07:00] <FireHazard17> it think bluetooth works better with kde
[07:00] <runjun> how do you set up a dual screen
[07:00] <Nubbie> n00bie: i know i already know what your problem is, but others may not.
[07:01] <ardchoille> !dual
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <Nubbie> !dualhead
[07:01] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[07:01] <ardchoille> !search dual
[07:01] <ubotu> Found: oin, nvu, xinerama, boot, dual-head, dualmonitor, dualhead, dual-boot, dual boot, dual head
[07:01] <n00bie> my bluetooth doesn't work in my toshiba laptop
[07:01] <n00bie>  I dunno how do I use my bluetooth device ?
[07:01] <squiggie> !vncserver
[07:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vncserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:01] <n00bie> hcitool scan < No such a device
[07:01] <Nubbie> n00bie: do you know what vender made the bluetooth?
[07:01] <apus> k3b wont burn anything, I get error 255 when I click the burn button, the disk doesn't even spin
[07:02] <mungewell> n00bie - does it show up in lsusb or lspci?
[07:02] <Nubbie> apus: is it complaining about privileges?
[07:02] <apus> no
[07:02] <Nubbie> mungwell: nope.
[07:02] <squiggie> can anyone tell me why starting remote desktop from within gnome on Ubuntu allows me to connect but then starting vncserver from ssh won't? Isn't that what is launched from within ubuntu in the gui, isn't it vncserver?
[07:02] <Nubbie> mungewell: i thought i would see it in there. there is an unknown texas instruments device however, which may be his bluetooth.
[07:02] <apus> "unknown error 255"
[07:03] <n00bie> mungewell, here's my lspci > http://www.pastebin.ca/445909
[07:03] <ardchoille> apus: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22error+255%22%2Bk3b&btnG=Search
[07:03] <n00bie> mungewell, and here's my lsusb > http://www.pastebin.ca/445916
[07:03] <Nubbie> squiggie: you need to start the ssh and have it tunnel port 5900, and then the vncviewer needs to connect to localhost.
[07:03] <mungewell> Nubbie - it's possible it's an unsupported device. The fact that there's number supports that theory.
[07:03] <bob_> anyone *NOT* running feisty here?
[07:03] <n00bie> Nubbie, no
[07:04] <da_shrewd> hello
[07:04] <Nubbie> !anyone | bob_
[07:04] <ubotu> bob_: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:04] <da_shrewd> anybody can help me?
[07:04] <Nubbie> !anyone > da_shrewd
[07:04] <ardchoille> da_shrewd: With what?
[07:04] <da_shrewd> how to repair deleted apache2 folder
[07:04] <Greenbox> i've just reconfigured my xserver-xorg package, and now my mouse is missing
[07:04] <Greenbox> any ideas?
[07:04] <mungewell> Nubbie - try 'lspci -vnn'
[07:04] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: check your trash bins?
[07:04] <bob_> did it fall off the desk?
[07:04] <ardchoille> lol
[07:04] <valehru_> How can I add a *.pfb font to ubuntu?
[07:04] <valehru_> !font
[07:04] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:05] <Greenbox> bob_, lol, it's invisible
[07:05] <Nubbie> valehru_: what kind of format is that?
[07:05] <da_shrewd> theres nothin trash bin
[07:05] <bob_> ?
[07:05] <squiggie> Nubbie, I'm talking about connecting to vncviewer on a local network. When I start it from gnome, it works and allows me to connect from my laptop. If I'm on my laptop and ssh into ubuntu and then start vncserver, it won't allow me to connect
[07:05] <valehru_> Nubbie, no clue, but its what I have
[07:05] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: and you deleted it with a rm -R in command line?
[07:05] <da_shrewd> i'm accidently delete using command
[07:05] <apus> well it burned! but it got a buffer error (k3b)
[07:05] <n00bie> mungewell, ??
[07:05] <da_shrewd> yes rm-r command line
[07:05] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: you're screwed then. there is no way to recover it.
[07:05] <mungewell> n00bie - gives more information.
[07:05] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: be more careful in the future.
[07:05] <corden> guys where can i find this ubuntu theme? http://youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ
[07:05] <da_shrewd> so, what can i do?
[07:06] <da_shrewd> i reinstall apache
[07:06] <n00bie> mungewell, hold on
[07:06] <cm> HI
[07:06] <da_shrewd> but, the folder not exist
[07:06] <BaAckUp> i need help
[07:06] <r4v5> squiggie: vncserver does start when you use the command line, though?
[07:06] <cm> who is mexican?
[07:06] <Nubbie> squiggie: because you didn't tunnel the port vnc uses, or you aren't connecting with the viewer to localhost:tunneledport from the client computer.
[07:06] <Nubbie> squiggie: read a guide on the internet.
[07:07] <Nubbie> squiggie: also make sure that port 22 is forwarded on your local router.
[07:07] <BaAckUp> i installed ubuntu and installed xchat too but problem is i cant connect to any servers
[07:07] <da_shrewd> Nubbie, what can i do to solve my problem?
[07:07] <Nubbie> !anyone > cm
[07:07] <Nubbie> cm: spanish language support in #ubuntu-es
[07:07] <runjun> is there an easy solution to dual monitors
[07:07] <BaAckUp> i installed ubuntu and installed xchat too but problem is i cant connect to any servers
[07:07] <r4v5> BaAckUp: does the rest of the internet-touching part of your installation work?
[07:07] <corden> did anybody installed this theme http://youtube.com/watch?v=xC5uEe5OzNQ
[07:07] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: i told you you CANNOT solve your problem. you deleted it permanently.
[07:08] <BaAckUp> yeah i can connect to yahoo and browse the web
[07:08] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: make backups next time.
[07:08] <r4v5> okay
[07:08] <wastrel> corden:  that's beryl.  try #ubuntu-effects
[07:08] <BaAckUp> but just Xchat is having problem
[07:08] <DVS01> upon loading up gnome, the loading thing never goes away. it is stuck at 'The Panel'.  it takes like half a minute for it to finish loading. i think this had something to do with automatically saving my session
[07:08] <corden> oic tnx wastrel
[07:08] <squiggie> Nubbie, no, there is no need to tunnel or forward any ports because this is a windows client on a lan, not anything through a router right now.
[07:08] <r4v5> do you have a firewall, router, or similar thing that could be blocking internet access?
[07:08] <Flannel> da_shrewd: remove apache2-common, with --purge, then reinstall
[07:08] <Nubbie> squiggie: read a guide.
[07:08] <Nubbie> flannel: why?
[07:09] <n00bie> mungewell, http://www.pastebin.ca/445924 < here's my lspci -vnn
[07:09] <da_shrewd> flannel, how to type the command?
[07:09] <BaAckUp> i have installed ubuntu  i dont know if ubuntu have firewalled installed
[07:09] <Nubbie> flannel: he just removed his website's folder.
[07:09] <BaAckUp> firewall installed *
[07:09] <apus> now I am getting a different error with k3b "probably a buffer underun"
[07:09] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: ignore that. you'll have to create a new website in /var/www/
[07:09] <Flannel> Nubbie: he removed /etc/apache2
[07:09] <Nubbie> ohhh!
[07:09] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: you failed to mention that to me.
[07:09] <Flannel> da_shrewd: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2-common
[07:09] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: do what flannel says.
[07:10] <da_shrewd> i have the folder /var/www
[07:10] <Centaur5> Now that Nvidia and ATI have graphical utilities to configure multiple displays is there something in progress for Intel?
[07:10] <Flannel> da_shrewd: then reinstall apache2
[07:10] <n00bie> mungewell, ??
[07:11] <squiggie> Nubbie, ok, I just looked at the man for vncserver and it doesn't say anything about tunneling or anything. Here is my question. What is the difference between starting remote desktop from the gnome menu and just starting vncserver from cmd line?
[07:12] <Nubbie> squiggie: there is no difference.
[07:12] <Nubbie> squiggie: it's the same program.
[07:12] <mungewell> n00bie - that unknow device appears to be a SD card reader..... are you sure you've go bluetooth ;-)  check lsusb
[07:12] <^^kalm> Does anyone find Feisty (beta) a bit slow?
[07:12] <Nubbie> mungewell: i didn't think that that device was his bluetooth.
[07:12] <r4v5> squiggie: it could have a command line arg to pull in a different environment, like having a different .xinitrc
[07:12] <Nubbie> !anyone > ^^kalm
[07:13] <Flannel> ^^kalm: #ubuntu+1 for Feisty
[07:13] <n00bie> mungewell, I've SD reader though and bluetooth too
[07:13] <Nubbie> ^^kalm: make sure you update your packages, they have made a fix in beagle. beagle was indexing too heavily.
[07:13] <DVS01> when i log in to gnome, my desklets end up not being snapped to the edge of the screen. they are off by like 20 pixels. is there a way to have them come back in the same spot?
[07:13] <Nubbie> n00bie: who manufactured your bluetooth module?
[07:13] <ardchoille> Nubbie: That's good to know, I quit using Beagle because of that.
[07:14] <Nubbie> DVS01: gdesklets has an offset option.
[07:14] <n00bie> Nubbie, dunno toshiba perhaps
[07:14] <Nubbie> ardchoille: it's humming perfectly now.
[07:14] <sanityx> I can't seem to get Feisty to boot at all
[07:14] <ardchoille> Cool
[07:14] <Nubbie> n00bie: i doubt that.
[07:14] <sanityx> I just get a black screen after a while, and i can even eject the cd
[07:14] <Nubbie> n00bie: i don't know what else to tell you.
[07:14] <valehru_> How can I unzip say 50 .rar files in recursive folders all at once?
[07:14] <mungewell> n00bie - are you shure its a PCI device... sometimes they put internal devices on USB
[07:15] <^^kalm> sanityx: as in, you cant boot the live cd?
[07:15] <DVS01> Nubbie: upon loading up gnome, the loading dialog with the ubuntu logo takes too long. it is stuck at 'The Panel'.  it takes like half a minute for it to finish loading. do you know why this would be happening?
[07:15] <Nubbie> sanityx: bad burn? BIOS set up to boot from cd?
[07:15] <sanityx> ^^kalm, yes.
[07:15] <sanityx> Nubbie, it boots from cd
[07:15] <sanityx> ive burned it twice
[07:15] <^^kalm> sanityx: You got a laptop?
[07:15] <sanityx> the cd boots fine in vmware
[07:15] <sanityx> yes its a laptop, but it boots 6.10 fine
[07:15] <squiggie> r4v5, any ideas what that command line might be? If it as Nubbie says and it is the same program, starting it from gui works just fine but starting it from cmd line doesn't work at all
[07:15] <Nubbie> DVS01: disable the ubuntu splash screen.
[07:15] <n00bie> Nubbie, here's my bluetooth module > bluetooth              53476  5 hidp,rfcomm,l2cap
[07:15] <Nubbie> DVS01: you're running beryl thats why.
[07:15] <r4v5> valehru_: for i in "file1.rar file2.rar file3.rar" ; do unrar e $i ; done
[07:15] <DVS01> Nubbie: this hasnt happened before though.. and its taking a while for beryl and other stuff to start up
[07:15] <sanityx> I donnu what to do
[07:16] <DVS01> i think it happened after i saved my session
[07:16] <n00bie> mungewell, its a builtin bluetooth device
[07:16] <Nubbie> n00bie: so maybe it's set up correctly, but not functioning?
[07:16] <r4v5> unless you mean you have a file called file1.rar that expands to a directory file1/ with file2.rar in it, in which case, it's just
[07:16] <r4v5> for i in "file1.rar file1/file2.rar file1/file2/file3.rar" ; do unrar e $i ; done
[07:16] <n00bie> Nubbie, yeah perhaps
[07:16] <^^kalm> sanityx: the basics i can tell you is, get a cotton wab and and raw alcohol and carefully clean your laser in the CD Drive
[07:16] <Nubbie> DVS01: its because of beryl. disable gnome's splash screen. all other support for beryl/compiz belongs in #ubuntu-effects
[07:16] <sanityx> ^^kalm, boots any other cd fine.
[07:16] <n00bie> Nubbie, how do i let it functioning ?
[07:16] <^^kalm> sanityx: or just re do it
[07:16] <r4v5> squiggie: what do you get when you try to connect from the other machine?
[07:16] <Nubbie> n00bie: i don't know.
[07:16] <DVS01> Nubbie: how do i disable the splash screen?
[07:16] <mungewell> n00bie -- but it *must* be connected to a bus somewhere. Repeat - sometimes they use internal USB connections....
[07:16] <^^kalm> sanityx: i mean reboot the CD
[07:17] <r4v5> does it completely not connect or does it at least handshake and all that
[07:17] <sanityx> ^^kalm, i have like 5 times
[07:17] <Nubbie> n00bie: but apparently it's being recognized by your system.
[07:17] <squiggie> r4v5, failed to connect
[07:17] <BaAckUp> i dont have firewalls
[07:17] <^^kalm> sanityx: It took me a few tries aswell... for some reason
[07:17] <DVS01> Nubbie: also, for some reason, kopete ends up autostarting now
[07:17] <Nubbie> mungewell: internal USB connections would've appeared in lsusb.
[07:17] <BaAckUp> i can connect to other things through port 6666
[07:17] <Nubbie> mungewell: doesn't matter whether or not it's internal.
[07:17] <da_shrewd> nubbie : Package apache2-common has no available version, but exists in the database.
[07:17] <da_shrewd> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents of sources.list
[07:18] <n00bie> mungewell, do you have a solution to fetch it?
[07:18] <Flannel> da_shrewd: pastein your sources.list
[07:18] <Nubbie> DVS01: so remove it from your session. i don't know how KDE works.
[07:18] <BaAckUp> CAN ANYONE READ ME !?
[07:18] <n00bie> Nubbie, getting screwed
[07:18] <Flannel> !caps | BaAckUp
[07:18] <ubotu> BaAckUp: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:18] <Nubbie> !patience baackup
[07:18] <BaAckUp> oikey
[07:18] <da_shrewd> how can i do that? i'm quite beginner, can u guide me?
[07:18] <mungewell> Nubbie - correct, have you checked 'lsusb' I haven't seen the output and it doesn't look like it listed on the PCI bus.
[07:18] <^^kalm> !hello
[07:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:18] <ardchoille> BaAckUp: Are you looking for a firewall config app?
[07:18] <Nubbie> mungewell: there is absolutely nothing in lsusb but his mouse.
[07:19] <DVS01> Nubbie: its gnome actually. i think i found the culprit.. a previously saved session seems to have been taking a long time to load up, causing everything else to hang. im gonna see if i just fixed it
[07:19] <r4v5> squiggie: it could be on a different display. if you don't have X started already, it could be on <serverip>:0 instead of <serverip>:1, if you do it remotely
[07:19] <^^kalm> !cd
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <^^kalm> !iso
[07:19] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[07:19] <r4v5> but if vncserver is running there should be a port SOMEWHERE listening for it
[07:19] <Flannel> da_shrewd: open up /etc/apt/sources.list in a text editor, and copy/paste it into the form of the pastebin (its in the topic), then hit submit (or whatever), get the URL, and paste the URL back here
[07:19] <BaAckUp> ardchoille ubuntu has firewall installed defaulty ?
[07:19] <Nubbie> ^^kalm: can you teake it easy on the bot?
[07:19] <Flannel> BaAckUp: yes.  But it isn't doing anything by default.
[07:19] <ardchoille> BaAckUp: Yes, it uses iptables, but firestarter is a nice gui to config it.
[07:19] <^^kalm> Nubbie: File
[07:19] <r4v5> you could try to telnet to 5900 to 5920 or so to see if the server offset is different
[07:19] <mungewell> r4v5 - do a 'netstat -an' and check whether VNCserver is only loopback/<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:19] <^^kalm> Nubbie: Fine***
[07:20] <drarem> think i found the menu - in ~./gconf/desktop..
[07:20] <BaAckUp> i want to connect on irc through Xchat i have just installed ubuntu and i havnt played with anything else
[07:20] <squiggie> r4v5, no session works if I start the server via cmd line, neither ip:0 or ip:1 or whatever I start it on, however starting it from gui works fine everytime
[07:20] <BaAckUp> i dont think i have enabled firewall
[07:20] <ardchoille> !firestarter | BaAckUp
[07:20] <ubotu> BaAckUp: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[07:20] <da_shrewd> flannel, where i can paste the sources list?
[07:20] <Nubbie> r4v5: he's also trying to ssh the vnc session. please explain to him that you need to point the vnc client to localhost when using ssh?
[07:20] <bokey> !pastebin | da_shrewd
[07:20] <ubotu> da_shrewd: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:20] <r4v5> ooh, that's a good point, mungewell. you could be only accepting localhost connections from the command line whereas the gnome menu item has something to allow connections from the other server.
[07:21] <n00bie> mungewell, /
[07:21] <becj> hi
[07:21] <r4v5> Nubbie: no, he's trying to start a vnc session from ssh, so he can bootstrap console -> gui
[07:21] <BaAckUp> ardchoille can u give me ur messenger cuz right now i m on windows and i just can connect to messenger through ubuntu
[07:21] <BaAckUp> so if i get any problems i can ask u
[07:21] <r4v5> you don't need to point the vnc client to localhost unless you've set up a port forward, which is pointless over a trusted wired network
[07:21] <ardchoille> BaAckUp: I don't use im
[07:21] <becj> how can i configure my vga card in the ubuntu dapper 6.06??
[07:21] <BaAckUp> anyone msn yahoo ?
[07:21] <Nubbie> baackup: why not join a private room on IRC?
[07:21] <BaAckUp> so i can ask
[07:21] <denys> hey, I have a question. How can I connect to a hidden ESSID?
[07:22] <Nubbie> baackuP: you can wait patiently like everyone else.
[07:22] <da_shrewd> ok, guys
[07:22] <BaAckUp> Nubbie thats the problem man! i cant join
[07:22] <BaAckUp> urc
[07:22] <BaAckUp> irc
[07:22] <Nubbie> baackup: you're on IRC right now.
[07:22] <BaAckUp> i m on windows
[07:22] <BaAckUp> right now
[07:22] <squiggie> Nubbie, no, I'm not trying to ssh into the vnc session, I'm simply ssh into the box to start the vnc by cmd line
[07:22] <mungewell> becj - what are you trying to achieve?
[07:22] <becj> the xorgconfig command don't works... somewhere can help with this?
[07:22] <TokenBad> I am trying the ubuntu dapper live cd...and installed john...but when tried to run it...says read only file system
[07:22] <Nubbie> squiggie: i understand now.
[07:22] <BaAckUp> i cant connect to irc through gaim or xchat from ubuntu
[07:22] <Flannel> !enter | BaAckUp
[07:22] <ubotu> BaAckUp: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[07:22] <mungewell> squiggie - start the server or the client?
[07:22] <BaAckUp> thats the main problem
[07:22] <da_shrewd> flannel : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16194/
[07:23] <squiggie> Nubbie, sorry for the confusion
[07:23] <Nubbie> squiggie: ssh into it and run sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start i believe.
[07:23] <ardchoille> da_shrewd: uh oh
[07:23] <Flannel> Nubbie: do you realise the... irony of that?
[07:23] <newseeker> how can I set up that VLC is the player in firefox that plays mpeg files on websites?  thanks
[07:23] <squiggie> Flannel, LOL
[07:23] <becj> ...
[07:23] <Nubbie> flannel: kinda?
[07:24] <r4v5> Nubbie: s/sshd/vncserver/ ?
[07:24] <becj> how to set my vga card in ubuntu??????
[07:24] <BaAckUp> The Problem is : from ubuntu i m not being able to connect on irc through neither gaim nor xchat so i need someone's messenger for help
[07:24] <squiggie> Nubbie,  no need to start sshd if I'm already ssh into the server
[07:24] <becj> how to set xorg?
[07:24] <newseeker> !vlc plugin
[07:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vlc plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:24] <teb> how do i uninstall rhythmbox without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop as well?
[07:24] <da_shrewd> flannel : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16194/
[07:24] <bokey> does anyone know how to test apache installation after everything has been setup (NAT, server, firewall). To test basically.
[07:24] <BaAckUp> becj @ dpkg-reconfigure server-xorg
[07:24] <newseeker> !vlc firefox plugin
[07:24] <Nubbie> becj: run sudo dpkg-recoenfadsofasd
[07:24] <Nubbie> baackup: thanks for helping him
[07:24] <newseeker> !firefox vlc firefox plugin
[07:25] <BaAckUp> yeah okey Nubbie now u help me
[07:25] <peepsalot> BaAckUp, what error do you get?
[07:25] <BaAckUp> The Problem is : from ubuntu i m not being able to connect on irc through neither gaim nor xchat so i need someone's messenger for help
[07:25] <ardchoille> teb: ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package and is safe to remove.
[07:25] <Flannel> da_shrewd: wow.  THat's... one messed up sources.list; automatix is a bad thing.  I'm surprised you upgraded to feisty without it breaking your system
[07:25] <Nubbie> newseeker: its in universe repository, please search in synaptic
[07:25] <Flannel> !repeat | BaAckUp
[07:25] <ubotu> BaAckUp: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:25] <teb> ardchoille: are you sure, i accidentally ended up having the entire kubuntu-desktop removed once which killed my system
[07:25] <r4v5> wow, you really CAN stop gdm from the console without it tripping out and rebooting the machine.
[07:25] <ardchoille> teb: kubuntu-desktop is just a meta package
[07:25] <newseeker> Nubbie, i have VLC installed already!  But how do I get firefox to use it to play mpeg and avi files on webpages?
[07:26] <mike> teb: it's safe mine's removed now
[07:26] <teb> ardchoille: okay i just wanted to make sure
[07:26] <teb> thanks mike
[07:26] <da_shrewd> flannel : feisty quite nice
[07:26] <mike> no prob
[07:26] <Nubbie> newseeker: search for the >plugin< in synaptic
[07:26] <Flannel> da_shrewd: automatix isnt.
[07:26] <squiggie> Nubbie r4v5, any more ideas?
[07:26] <Nubbie> squiggie: that didn't work?
[07:26] <da_shrewd> flannel :  I need to remove automatix?
[07:26] <ardchoille> !automatix | da_shrewd `
[07:26] <ubotu> da_shrewd `: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:26] <Flannel> !easysource | da_shrewd
[07:26] <ubotu> da_shrewd: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:26] <BaAckUp> anyone has answer to my question ?
[07:27] <legos> allo
[07:27] <Nubbie> baackup: patience please.
[07:27] <Flannel> da_shrewd: re-generate your sources.list for feisty, using that page.  Your problem is your missing some... important repositories
[07:27] <squiggie> Nubbie, what didn't work? I missed someting.
[07:27] <BaAckUp> okey
[07:27] <Nubbie> squiggie: running sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start from the ssh session?
[07:28] <peepsalot> BaAckUp, what error do you get when you try to connect?  the rest of your internet works ok under Ubuntu?
[07:28] <newseeker> Nubbie, it was mozilla-plugin-vlc
[07:28] <becj> BaAckUp: that returned this:  "package server-xorg not installed... annd blablabla"
[07:28] <Josesordo> hello
[07:28] <ardchoille> Nubbie: Doesn't sshd have to be running in order to ssh in?
[07:28] <teb> okay, so since i'm compiling rhythmbox myself when a new version comes out do i need to remove before i compile the new one?
[07:28] <r4v5> squiggie: try a netstat -an when you have vnc started from the console
[07:28] <becj> BaAckUp: apt-get don't find anything about server-xorg
[07:28] <BaAckUp> yeah resf ot internet works okey
[07:28] <Josesordo> somebody know how to write and do anything in ntfs partition?
[07:29] <Nubbie> newseeker: those who help themselves.... help me by doing so :) thanks guy.
[07:29] <r4v5> it may only be accepting connections from localhost, to try at some semblance of security
[07:29] <Flannel> !ntfs-3g | Josesordo
[07:29] <ubotu> Josesordo: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[07:29] <r4v5> i don't remember if you said you've looked into that
[07:29] <Flannel> odat: Feisty can do it by default
[07:29] <da_shrewd> flannel: so, i must paste the generated sources  to sources list?
[07:29] <BaAckUp> error is not coming.. xchat just tries to cnnect it but cant connect
[07:29] <newseeker> Nubbie, when I try to play something through firefox webpage, its black screen and says: (no video)
[07:29] <Flannel> Josesordo, feisty can do it by default
[07:29] <BaAckUp> becj
[07:29] <Flannel> da_shrewd: yes
[07:29] <BaAckUp> go to terminal
[07:29] <becj> BaAckUp: ya
[07:29] <Nubbie> newseeker: restart firefox.
[07:29] <TokenBad> is there a way to run jtr in live cd?
[07:29] <newseeker> Nubbie, i did
[07:29] <alien__> can someone tell me why my network host name is different when i do 'hostname' and 'hostname -f' they should be the same can someone help me make it show the same?
[07:29] <BaAckUp> and type dpkg-reconfigure server-xorg
[07:29] <squiggie> r4v5, should I see <IP_ADDRESS>:5900?
[07:29] <da_shrewd> ok, i try
[07:29] <Josesordo> well, I have edgy and wait the oficial version of feisty to change
[07:29] <r4v5> no, it should be *:5900
[07:30] <Flannel> BaAckUp: please stop hitting enter so much.  Type more on each line.
[07:30] <newseeker> Nubbie, any other ideas why VLC doesnt plauy any videos through firefox?
[07:30] <Josesordo> ubotu, I install ntfs-3g...and now?
[07:30] <BaAckUp> sorry @ Flannel
[07:30] <alien__> hi ubotu =))
[07:30] <n00bie> mungewell, here's my dmesg | grep Bl
[07:30] <mike> Josedoro: I don't know if it's edgy but look up ntfs-config
[07:30] <Nubbie> newseeker: i don't use VLC, so i can't begin to explain why. are you using beryl/compiz?
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.868000]  Bluetooth: Core ver 2.8
[07:30] <Flannel> !hostname | alien__
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.868000]  Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[07:30] <ubotu> alien__: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. Alternatively, use the gui at system>administration>networking on the "General" tab
[07:30] <becj> BaAckUp: this returned errors, saying that i don't have package server-xorg installed
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.868000]  Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.888000]  Bluetooth: L2CAP ver 2.8
[07:30] <newseeker> Nubbie, no
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.888000]  Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[07:30] <peepsalot> BaAckUp, you sure you have it configured for the correct server?  can you ping chat.freenode.net ?
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.892000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[07:30] <Nubbie> n00bie: pastebin
[07:30] <r4v5> or <IP_ADDRESS>:5900. what that means is that it's only accepting connections from localhost. You can either look up the command line option in Xvnc or startvnc to make it accept connections elsehwere, or just use ssh tunnelling to connect that way.
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.892000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[07:30] <drarem> heh  the time I spent researching this, I could have moved all my menu items over individually
[07:30] <newseeker> Nubbie, what you use?
[07:30] <mungewell> squiggie - that means it's bound to a specific interface (loopback), * would  be all interfaces.
[07:30] <n00bie> [17179604.892000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.7
[07:30] <n00bie> [17180735.664000]  Bluetooth: HIDP (Human Interface Emulation) ver 1.1-mh1
[07:30] <Nubbie> n00bie: stop please?
[07:31] <Nubbie> newseeker: the gstreamer plugin. gstreamer plays videos fine.
[07:31] <n00bie> Nubbie, sry
[07:31] <BaAckUp> becj @ re-install ubuntu it just takes 18 minutes
[07:31] <Nubbie> n00bie: you know about pastebin, why didn't you use it?
[07:31] <newseeker> Nubbie, how can I get the gstreamer plugin?
[07:31] <Josesordo> :s
[07:31] <squiggie> r4v5, what is ubuntu pastebin?
[07:31] <Frogzoo> anyone get tftpd working with xinetd? tried both atftpd & tftpd-hpa so far, neither works
[07:31] <peepsalot> !pastebin | squiggie
[07:31] <ubotu> squiggie: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:31] <r4v5> so i have the alternative cd but dist-upgrade still wants an X session.
[07:31] <becj> BaAckUp: but i have been already...
[07:31] <n00bie> Nubbie, wrong copy
[07:31] <Nubbie> newseeker: uninstall the vlc plugin, and install the gstreamer plugin for firefox.
[07:31] <alien__> ubotu: i dont use gui only terminal, mm my /etc/hosts i set it to coban.alien.biz and when i do 'hostname' it shows me coban but when i do 'hostname -f' it shows me coban.alien.biz.. i need to make them same.. im missing something
[07:32] <n00bie> Nubbie, here's the link http://www.pastebin.ca/445947
[07:32] <BaAckUp> becj what version of unbuntu do you have
[07:32] <n00bie> mungewell, here's the link http://www.pastebin.ca/445947
[07:32] <Flannel> becj: the package is xserver-xorg
[07:32] <newseeker> Nubbie, install mozilla-gstreamer?
[07:32] <alien__> ubotu: just want to get more specific of my problem
[07:32] <mike> Josesordo: did they have the package in edgy
[07:32] <Nubbie> n00bie: so your bluetooth is detected i saw that
[07:32] <Nubbie> newseeker: yeah.
[07:32] <DennisR> NickGarvey: {S Chronic
[07:32] <Flannel> BaAckUp: please stop giving bad advice.  If you don't know the answer, that's ok.  Just don't answer.
[07:32] <n00bie> Nubbie, but doesn't function as well
[07:32] <squiggie> r4v5, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16196/
[07:32] <becj> BaAckUp: dapper 6.06 (installed from the live cd 650mb~~)
[07:32] <DennisR> NickGarvey: What up gangster.
[07:32] <peepsalot> alien__, ubotu is not a real person, it is a bot.  you can't hold a conversation with it
[07:33] <Nubbie> n00bie: i guess you need to set it up. which i have no experience doing because i don't use bluetooth.
[07:33] <alien__> oh what
[07:33] <n00bie> Nubbie, hciconfig nothing appears a device
[07:33] <Nubbie> !bluetooth > n00bie
[07:33] <alien__> hehe
[07:33] <mungewell> bugger. I've just worn through the top of my thinkpad nipple!
[07:33] <alien__> hehe =) i knew that
[07:33] <BaAckUp> my problem :my xchat is not being able to connect on networks:It doesnt show any error but it doesnt connect it tries on default ports i think firewall or something else is stopping connection
[07:33] <Nubbie> n00bie: see if you can get that set up that way.
[07:33] <peepsalot> !ubotu | alien__
[07:33] <ubotu> alien__: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot.  I just have to uncomment one line and it'll use a console.
[07:33] <n00bie> Nubbie, ok
[07:33] <alien__> the best bot ive seen so far =))
[07:33] <newseeker> Nubbie, does it play mpeg, avi and wmv vifeos on firefoc?
[07:33] <peepsalot> alien__, i peep xchat logs of course
[07:33] <alien__> ok ubotu i edit my hostname =) haha
[07:33] <alien__> why xchat logs? hehe
[07:33] <apus> when I run amarok nothing happens
[07:34] <peepsalot> whynot
[07:34] <Nubbie> newseeker: wmv all the way up to version 8, 9-10 with the fluendo plugins.
[07:34] <apus> waitpid(16453, 0xbfd042a0, WNOHANG)     = 0
[07:34] <apus> nanosleep({0, 100000}, NULL)            = 0
[07:34] <apus> over and over
[07:34] <BaAckUp> man i have same version @ becj ... it has xserver.. xserver is main package which starts graphics so it comes with live cd
[07:34] <squiggie> r4v5, what do you mean?
[07:34] <Nubbie> apus: amarok --debug maybe?
[07:34] <Nubbie> apus: and maybe you should ask in #amarok
[07:34] <newseeker> Nubbie, so please tell me what I need to install.  gstreamer and fluendo?
[07:34] <BaAckUp> becj @ go to terminaml step1: sudo bash step2: yourpassword step3: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:35] <becj> BaAckUp: huumm, and how i can configure my vga to mplayer works correcly?
[07:35] <becj> ok
[07:35] <r4v5> squiggie: my problem, trying to upgrade my laptop. it was a chicken-and-egg issue where it needed to remove an x file and the upgrade program was an x application, but it does console ui too.
[07:35] <n00bie> Nubbie,  does't work unforunately
[07:35] <Nubbie> newseeker: i'm saying if you NEED wmv 9-10 support you need to buy a gstreamer plugin from fluendo.
[07:35] <ardchoille> BaAckUp: You do't need to "sudo bash", just: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:35] <newseeker> Nubbie, did you say BUY?
[07:35] <becj> BaAckUp: tanxs man, this command work fine
[07:35] <BaAckUp> okey becj
[07:36] <squiggie> r4v5, ohh, thought you were referring to my netstat output
[07:36] <alien__> peepsalot: ok i got it they both match now .../etc/hostname... and /etc/hosts.... now can you pleas tell me what the EXACT proper command is to shut down Ubuntu server 6.10 Edgy and is it sudo poweroff .. ok use to shut it completely?
[07:36] <BaAckUp> i suggest u backup ur xserver before playing with it
[07:36] <Flannel> becj: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:36] <Nubbie> newseeker: its what happens every time you buy a copy of windows, you buy the license to use all of their proprietary software.
[07:36] <newseeker> Nubbie, E: Couldn't find package mozilla-gstreamer
[07:36] <alien__> peepsalot: shutdown and restart
[07:36] <becj> BaAckUp: but do you know about this driver? (radeon 9200) to open a video in mplayer? here, i will play and only run the sound, the video nothing appears
[07:36] <Nubbie> !mozilla-gstreamer
[07:36] <peepsalot> alien__, sudo shutdown -h now
[07:36] <Nubbie> !info mozilla-gstreamer
[07:36] <ubotu> Package mozilla-gstreamer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[07:36] <newseeker> Nubbie, i have everything in sources.list. so why does it say E: Couldn't find package mozilla-gstreamer?
[07:36] <Nubbie> hrmm.
[07:37] <alien__> peepsalot: what does shutdown -h now command do?
[07:37] <Nubbie> newseeker: search for it.
[07:37] <alien__> peepsalot: exactly heh
[07:37] <newseeker> Nubbie, why are you trolling?
[07:37] <peepsalot> alien__, also, man shutdown.  i think for restart you use -r
[07:37] <BaAckUp> becj@ you need dependent libraries dont them all and it should be working fine
[07:37] <alien__> peepsalot: ok
[07:37] <Nubbie> newseeker: how exactly am i trolling? by not spoon feeding you?
[07:37] <BaAckUp> download them all @ becj*
[07:37] <newseeker> Nubbie, you are trolling and giving misleading and time wasting guidance
[07:37] <Plenum> evening all, is there any way to get the Makefile that is used by a dapper package?  I want to see how this certain app was compiled/set up...
[07:38] <newseeker> Nubbie, its obvious you dont have a clue, and make it up as you go, guessing. :( trolling and wasting peoples time
[07:38] <Nubbie> newseeker: how is that? fluendo needs to pay for a license to decode wmv 9 and 10 codecs.
[07:38] <mungewell> deb-src packagename
[07:38] <peepsalot> alien__, -h option is for "halt" it means to power down the machine after stopping all processes.  "now" is the time you are telling it to do the shutdown, you can optionally specify to shutdown at some time in the future
[07:38] <Seveas> newseeker, down boy...
[07:38] <newseeker> Seveas, ok.
[07:38] <DVS01> how do i edit my gnome session from within a failsafe session?
[07:38] <sanityx> I can't seem to get feisty booted. It just goes to a black screen. Eventually the cd-read light goes off.
[07:38] <Nubbie> newseeker: figure it out yourself next time if the help you receive is not appreciated.
[07:38] <r4v5> squiggie: when you start vncserver, what syntax are you using
[07:38] <Seveas> Nubbie, spoke the truth, that you didn't understand him isn't totally his fault
[07:38] <Plenum> does the source package contain the makefile that is used?
[07:38] <Nubbie> :l
[07:38] <Seveas> Nubbie, btw: it's totem-mozilla iirc :)
[07:38] <wastrel> Plenum:  apt-get source package
[07:39] <newseeker> Seveas, all I wanted to do was play mpeg, avi files through firefox.  And he gave me all this time wasting wrong instructions
[07:39] <becj> BaAckUp: yah.. thanxs for help man
[07:39] <r4v5> squiggie: you should have a line with -interface <ip address of interface> or perhaps even -interface <IP_ADDRESS> will work
[07:39] <Seveas> newseeker, no, he showed you how to do it in a way that's lgal everywhere
[07:39] <Nubbie> seveas: thanks, forgot, didn't remember what it was called.
[07:39] <Tomcat_> Plenum: The source package makes it possible to compile exactly the binary package that's in the repos.
[07:39] <Tomcat_> Plenum: It should contain all patches, Makefiles, and whatever else.
[07:39] <Seveas> newseeker, there are quicker ways, but they're legally questionable in some places
[07:39] <newseeker> Seveas, no he didnt!  he told me to apt-get install mozilla-gstreamer. but it doesnt even exist in Edgy
[07:39] <Plenum> Thanks all, will grab and take a look
[07:39] <Nubbie> newseeker: another suggestion i have for you is the mplayer plugin for firefox.
[07:40] <newseeker> !info mozilla-gstreamer
[07:40] <ubotu> Package mozilla-gstreamer does not exist in edgy, edgy-backports, edgy-seveas
[07:40] <newseeker> Nubbie, does it need any decoders?
[07:40] <Seveas> newseeker, h just forgot the bloody package name, try showing some initiative and searching yourself...
[07:40] <Nubbie> newseeker: you asked if that was correct, i wasn't sure. i told you to try it, what harm did I cause?
[07:40] <newseeker> Nubbie, ok np
[07:40] <r4v5> the netstat output you gave before said that it was only binding on localhost, which means any connections to the vnc server that weren't from the same computer were ignored.
[07:40] <newseeker> Nubbie, ill try the mplayer plguin
[07:40] <Nubbie> newseeker: it uses mplayer for playback. i believe mplayer can decode wmv 9s.
[07:40] <Josesordo> when is the release day of the official version of feisty ??
[07:40] <corden> guys where can i edit the start up file?
[07:41] <newseeker> Nubbie, the mplayer says file not supported. needed codecs or something
[07:41] <newseeker> Nubbie, seems it cant play mpeg files
[07:41] <epod> Josesordo, afaik the 19th
[07:41] <corden> i cannot log into my personal account, im in root acount now
[07:41] <mungewell> Josesordo - it's supposed to be the 19th. Don't know if it's delay
[07:41] <Nubbie> newseeker: i don't know what's up with your mplayer then.
[07:41] <newseeker> Nubbie, any ideas how to get the codecs for mplayer plugin?
[07:41] <alien__> peepsalot: excellent manual explains it now .. but how would i enter a time vaule if i wanted to shut it down in two min? for example sudo shutdown -r 22:58 or how ?? and thats -r is restart
[07:42] <Nubbie> newseeker: mplayer shouldn't need codecs to be installed separately.
[07:42] <newseeker> Nubbie, I typed: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[07:42] <Josesordo> mm..ok
[07:42] <Josesordo> I'll wait...
[07:42] <Nubbie> mungewell: i believe it's been delayed to the 28th.
[07:42] <r4v5> alien__: for two minutes, you'd do shutdown -h 2 or -r 2
[07:42] <newseeker> Nubbie, but it says cant play files, needdd codecs or something
[07:42] <Josesordo> when is release..how to update?...I should to format again?
[07:42] <peepsalot> alien__, i think you just give it a number, in minutes
[07:42] <newseeker> !mplayer codecs
[07:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mplayer codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <newseeker> !codecs
[07:43] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:43] <squiggie> r4v5, when I start it from console, I do a vncserver :1
[07:43] <ubd> how can i add enlightenment option to kde?
[07:43] <alien__> peepsalot: r4v5: ok, how can it be in hours?
[07:43] <peepsalot> alien__, this option is mostly for systems where you might have remote users logged in, to give them time to finish up.
[07:43] <peepsalot> alien__, multiply times 60 ;-)
[07:43] <alien__> peepsalot: defenitely planing having users on my box
[07:43] <r4v5> squiggie: so then vncserver -interface <IP_ADDRESS> :1 or something like that should work
[07:43] <alien__> so 600 for hehe six hours?
[07:44] <T0uCH> hi all.. I've just see that and i am wondering if someone can give me some infos about BERYL ??
[07:44] <alien__> peepsalot: i guess it makes sense 2400 is 24 and 12 =_)__
[07:44] <alien__> peepsalot: heh
[07:44] <mungewell> Josesordo - most people 'apt-get distupdate', however I prefer to reinstall from scratch to clean out the system/
[07:44] <newseeker> Nubbie, mplayer says: You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[07:44] <Nubbie> alien__: #ubuntu-effects
[07:44] <newseeker> Nubbie, any ideas what to do?
[07:44] <Flannel> T0uCH: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[07:44] <alien__> peepsalot: aite i reboote =)
[07:44] <ubd> how can i add enlightenment option to kde login screen?!?!?1*!?!*@rw
[07:44] <alien__> Nubbie: aite ill go there toooo =))
[07:44] <Nubbie> newseeker: did you install mplayer by hand?
[07:44] <alien__> but i gota reboot first
[07:45] <alien__> #ubuntu-effects cool =)
[07:45] <newseeker> Nubbie, I typed: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[07:45] <newseeker> Nubbie, isnt that right?
[07:45] <Nubbie> newseeker: k do you have mplayer installed?
[07:45] <squiggie> r4v5, the session started, however it still won't let me connect
[07:45] <Nubbie> newseeker: thats kinda a given.
[07:45] <BaAckUp> my problem :my xchat is not being able to connect on networks:It doesnt show any error but it doesnt connect it tries on default ports i think firewall or something else is stopping connection
[07:45] <newseeker> Nubbie, not sure
[07:45] <peepsalot> alien__, no, i think 600 would be ten hours
[07:45] <Nubbie> baackup: does the rest of your network connections work?
[07:45] <BaAckUp> yeah
[07:46] <Josesordo> mungewell, clean out the system....but, dont have to install again the programs and another things :s
[07:46] <BaAckUp> i m being able to connect on anywebsites and i can connect to yahoo messenger and msn too
[07:46] <newseeker> Nubbie, mplayer is already the newest version.
[07:46] <Nubbie> baackup: then you set up something wrong in these programs. IRC uses http.
[07:46] <Nubbie> baackup: i believe...
[07:46] <newseeker> Nubbie, it seems mplayer is installed already
[07:46] <wastrel> irc doesn't use http
[07:46] <Nubbie> newseeker: i have no clue then. mplayer should have all plugins by default. what kind of file are you trying to play?
[07:46] <BaAckUp> yeah it doesnt use hhtp i think
[07:47] <mungewell> Josesordo - yes. but I kinda know what I use, I find stuff gets installed to try and then is left to rot......
[07:47] <newseeker> Nubbie, mpeg files. any doesnt work
[07:47] <Nubbie> wastrel: port 80....
[07:47] <teb> so i compiled rhythmbox 0.10.0 when the next version comes out do i need to uninstall it somehow or can i just compile and make install again and it'll all be ok
[07:47] <BaAckUp> my xchat tries to connect on network by port 6667
[07:47] <newseeker> Nubbie, mplayer keeps saying: You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins.
[07:47] <wastrel> irc uses neither http port nor http protocol nubbie
[07:47] <Nubbie> teb: if you are installing the new version manually you need to uninstall the package.
[07:47] <Nubbie> wastel: what port is it using?
[07:47] <teb> Nubbie: and how is this accomplished
[07:48] <Nubbie> teb: sudo apt-get remove rhythmbox
[07:48] <wastrel> Nubbie:  like BaAckUp says,  6667 is the default
[07:48] <teb> Nubbie: no, i compiled it myself, no package
[07:48] <sanityx> Anybody have an Inspiron 1501?
[07:48] <Nubbie> wastrel: ohh pff i recall that.
[07:48] <Nubbie> baackup: is port 6667 blocked on your router?
[07:49] <newseeker> Nubbie, you saying you have no idea why mplayer doesnt play mpeg files?
[07:49] <wastrel> BaAckUp:  can you   telnet irc.freenode.net 6667
[07:49] <Nopal> upblo joton
[07:49] <Nubbie> !anybody | sanityx
[07:49] <ubotu> sanityx: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:49] <pblo> eo
[07:49] <BaAckUp> wait
[07:49] <BaAckUp> lemme see
[07:49] <pblo> :p
[07:49] <newseeker> Nubbie, i found a website that says I need to type: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gxine libxine-main1 libxine-extracodecs ogle ogle-gui
[07:49] <Nubbie> newseeker: i have no idea why YOUR mplayer doesn't play mpegs.
[07:49] <newseeker> Nubbie, the website says WHY you are wrong!  look what i need to install!  its just NOT mplater thats needed
[07:49] <Nubbie> newseeker: yeah thats if you're going to use the gstreamer plugin, which i initally suggested.
[07:49] <BaAckUp> i dont think my router has blocked port 6667 because i can connect through windows on irc
[07:50] <newseeker> Nubbie, the gstreamer plugin command you gave me was in err
[07:50] <sanityx> Ok, has anybody been able to get feisty to boot on an inspiron 1501. And I've already asked in #ubuntu+1
[07:50] <Nubbie> newseeker: you didn't think the gstreamer idea was good, in fact you accused me of trolling. so i told you to try the mplayer route.
[07:50] <newseeker> Nubbie, read up more and learn more before you give others insutructuions. thanks
[07:50] <BaAckUp> newseeker dont be rude man he is trying to help
[07:50] <newseeker> Nubbie, thats a lie!  I followed your adfvice and ubuntu said the apt-get install gstreamer didnt exist
[07:51] <P_Kable> Comment ca marche compiz ?
[07:51] <BaAckUp> i dont think my router has blocked port 6667 because i can connect through windows on irc
[07:51] <P_Kable> comment je fais tourner mon cube  ?
[07:51] <Nubbie> newseeker: being rude gets you nowhere. i know what i'm talking about. i TOLD you to install the gstreamer plugin. because you typed the wrong thing into the terminal then, you accuse me of trolling. even after that i still try to help you.
[07:51] <DVS01> is there a file i can edit to do the gui equivalent of "System > Preferences > Sessions > Startup Programs"?
[07:51] <Nubbie> !fr | p_kable
[07:51] <ubotu> p_kable: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:51] <P_Kable> sorry
[07:51] <P_Kable> mistgake
[07:51] <T0uCH> #kubuntu-fr
[07:52] <BaAckUp> oh! i came here for help .. and now i m helping others
[07:52] <T0uCH> doh!
[07:52] <tekm8> sup all
[07:52] <Nubbie> P_kable: also, for help with beryl, #ubuntu-effects
[07:52] <Nubbie> p_kable: bonne chance ;)
[07:52] <mungewell> DVS01 - system deamons are normally started from /etc/init.d/... you probably want to investigate session for you Xserver. ie. start applications when you log in.
[07:52] <r4v5> BaAckUp: welcome to the internet
[07:53] <Nubbie> DVS01: are you still having problems with gdesklets?
[07:53] <P_Kable> Actually I just upgraded to feisty but it seems like beryl is gone ...
[07:53] <P_Kable> I have compiz instead
[07:53] <DVS01> Nubbie: yeah a little.. they halt the startup process
[07:53] <BaAckUp> r4v5 haha
[07:53] <P_Kable> How can I have the cube turning ?
[07:53] <jeduan> if i do dist-upgrade and then dpkg-reconfigure everything is it like i had installed feisty from scratch?
[07:54] <Nopal> !info iPod
[07:54] <teb> jeduan: not exactly, there's always a little bit of trash left behind
[07:54] <ubotu> ipod: tool for retrieving informations from iPods. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 14 kB, installed size 64 kB
[07:54] <Nubbie> DVS01: k in your script that your beryl GDM entry leads too, add gdesklets BEFORE beryl.
[07:54] <squiggie> anyone else that is a vnc guru, can you help?
[07:55] <tekm8> what's some good tech sites? i'm tired of arstechnica (as i only see mac stuff anymore) and slashdot (for all the unneeded ms bashing and straight out lies)
[07:55] <BaAckUp> my ex chat dont work :((
[07:55] <Nubbie> squiggie: i think people are having difficult understanding exactly what you're trying to achieve... can you clarify?
[07:55] <DVS01> Nubbie: my beryl starts via the session manager's 'startup programs' list.. and it doesnt let me change the order of those programs.. is there a file i can edit?
[07:55] <Flannel> DVS01: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support, thanks
[07:55] <Nubbie> !offtopic | tekm8 (check out engadget)
[07:55] <ubotu> tekm8 (check out engadget): #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:55] <clouder`grr> Vista has this new feature where you can control volume of programs seperately.  Is this possible in Ubuntu?  What I really want to do is turn the volume off in Firefox so that Flash movies don't scream in my ear when I'm listening to music.
[07:55] <DVS01> this isnt for beryl, i just want to edit my startup programs by editing a file, instead of using the gui
[07:56] <Nubbie> clouder`grr: you can right click on a flash and disable sound
[07:56] <Nubbie> DVS01: i thought you were having a problem with gdesklets jamming up your system on login
[07:56] <tekm8> Nubbie, i know it was offtopic, just got fed up with it and had to let it out :( ....sorry
[07:56] <DVS01> Nubbie: that too
[07:56] <DVS01> Nubbie: i dont see what that has to do with beryl though..
[07:57] <kbidd> I read that the 7.04 desktop is being released tomorrow -- is there a laptop edition, and if so, is it being released tomorrow as well (I have only ever run ubuntu on a desktop before, so i don't even know if there is a seperate "laptop" edition).
[07:57] <wastrel> clouder`grr:  i doubt it.
[07:57] <BaAckUp> !irc
[07:57] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/), irssi (console) (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[07:57] <taime1> how can i get my usb mic working in ubuntu?
[07:57] <sanityx> kbidd, desktop/laptop same thing
[07:57] <squiggie> all I'm trying to do for now is connect to my server remotely via vnc. If I enable remote desktop via the gnome gui, I can then go back to my laptop and connect using vncviwer. However, I don't what to always have to be in front of my monitor and start the vncserver via gnome. So, I ssh into my server from my laptop to get a console and start vncserver. then I run vncviewer to connect and it fails to connect.
[07:57] <densin> how to reconfig to CMOS time to store as UTC? thank for advance
[07:57] <kbidd> sanityx, thanks
[07:57] <sanityx> kbidd, Its just called desktop edition because its not for servers.
[07:57] <Nubbie> DVS01: gdesklets generally bogs down your desktop, add beryl on top of that, i thought you were trying to have gdesklets start before beryl to avoid that slowdown.
[07:58] <Flannel> densin: Go to your BIOS, change the time to UTC.  inform ubuntu that you're now using UTC as hardware clock
[07:58] <Nubbie> kbidd: feisty has been delayed i think.
[07:58] <kbidd> sanityx, makes sense... now to decide if i can wait another day for it, or i just install the beta now :P
[07:58] <Flannel> densin: and actually, if you do the latter, then update your time, the former will happen automatically
[07:58] <densin> flamesrock: how to inform ubuntu?
[07:58] <kbidd> Nubbie, when did that happen... on ubuntu's website it still says the release date is tomorrow
[07:58] <sanityx> kbidd, It wont even boot for me
[07:59] <kbidd> well, the 19th... tomorrow here, but might be 2 days depending on where you guys live
[07:59] <kbidd> sanityx, guess i wait then :P
[07:59] <Nubbie> kbidd: really? i heard it was being delayed until the 28th. i'm running it right now, and there were some kernel problems last week, i thought that the rumours might be true because of that.
[07:59] <sanityx> mm
[07:59] <BaAckUp> feisty has some issues
[07:59] <DVS01> Nubbie: main reason i want gdesklets to start first is because if they dont, they end up getting 3d effects and flying off of the desktop, which i dont want. so this really isnt much of a beryl issue as it is an issue of getting the startup order set up properly
[07:59] <mungewell> milestone page for 7.04 still reckons release in 18 hours....
[08:00] <mike> i get wierd freezes in feisty
[08:00] <kbidd> Nubbie, not sure but from the website, "LONDON, April 16, 2007  Canonical Ltd., the commercial sponsor of Ubuntu, announce the availability of Ubuntu 7.04 Desktop Edition on April 19."
[08:00] <BaAckUp> yeah edgy is better
[08:00] <densin> flamesrock: any setup-time script? or manual edit /etc/config ?
[08:00] <BaAckUp> feisty has alot of more work to be done yet .. alot of problems in feisty
[08:00] <Nubbie> DVS01: okay so add an exception in beryl not to run any effects on them. ask in #ubuntu-effects. its very possible to have beryl ignore gdesklets.
[08:00] <DVS01> Nubbie: i guess that's another way to do it. thanks
[08:00] <BaAckUp> Nubbie: do you work for ubuntu ?
[08:00] <mungewell> no mention otherwise on the dev-announce list.... so get your drinking shoes on ;-)
[08:01] <Nubbie> DVS01: no problem.
[08:01] <darx> my cpu doesn't scale properly details http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2472453#post2472453 is it possible to load a custom freq_table module and if yes which one and how :-/
[08:01] <mike> for some reason in feisty my mouse and keyboard will quit responding.
[08:01] <Nubbie> baackup: no i do not :)
[08:01] <squiggie> does that explain in clearly for everyone?
[08:01] <drayen> i have ubuntu 6.10 and nm-applet as well as wifiradar : but i still cant connect to a weak wireless signal that windows (what im in at the moment) has no problems with?? is there a command line tool to connect that wont give up so easly?
[08:01] <BaAckUp> i m developing my own version of nix :D "omkara"
[08:02] <tekm8> mike, same here, along with freezing up when trying to log out.
[08:02] <pkundu> hi what is the best chm viewer for ubuntu
[08:02] <Nubbie> squiggie: let me read through it.
[08:02] <BaAckUp> just documenting the concept and how it would be hehe
[08:02] <mike> tekm8: yeah, my screen goes black and pop's back up and hangs
[08:02] <Flannel> pkundu: xchm is one.
[08:02] <T0uCH> how i will be able to run on feisty fawn ( when released) ? Update, download...??
[08:02] <mungewell> squiggie - when you connect via ssh check what DISPLAY is being set to...
[08:03] <Nubbie> squiggie: do you have the option set in the Desktop Sharing utility to require your confirmation before allowing the session to start? this could be your problem
[08:03] <BaAckUp> Mike install back 6.10 or you will just end up sorting the problems
[08:03] <pkundu> thx
[08:03] <tekm8> mike, yeah, it'll go black, then show the, err, splash page and just sit there.
[08:03] <Nubbie> squiggie: its not that vnc isn't running, its that it might be ignoring all requests to view the screen until there is user intervention on the server side.
[08:03] <Josesordo> someone know how to change the propetary or group of NTFS partition?..I've try in root but nothing =(
[08:03] <densin> how to re-config time-setup after install ubuntu?
[08:03] <squiggie> Nubbie, Ahh, I thought of that and disabled it
[08:04] <Nubbie> squiggie: hrmm... :l i'm still baffled then.
[08:04] <tuna-fish> I just checked my disk space usage, and in /var/log there are 3 files that take 3.6 gigs each, anyone know what they are? kem.log.0, syslog.0, messages.0
[08:04] <Nubbie> squiggie: you're absolutely sure though?
[08:04] <squiggie> Nubbie, I've checked it 5 times :)
[08:05] <Nubbie> tuna-fish: have you not restarted your computer in 5 years? lol thats insane.
[08:05] <tekm8> speaking of these freezes, does anyone else experience them?
[08:05] <taime1> i have a logitech usb mic.. running edgy... but i dont have any sound....
[08:05] <taime1> can this be fixed?
[08:05] <Nubbie> tekm8: doing what.....
[08:05] <ubd> how can i add enlightenment option to kde login screen?!
[08:05] <mungewell> squiggie - it may be that ssh is allocating a different DISPLAY setting so that it (ssh) can X-forward, meaning that apps started on the remote machine display on local.
[08:05] <tuna-fish> Nubbie: well, in a couple of weeks or so
[08:05] <BustedX> BaAckUp: Irssi, Epic...
[08:05] <Nubbie> taime1: is it detected as a microphone in Volume Control?\
[08:05] <tekm8> Nubbie, freezing when logging out, just hangs at the ?splash screen
[08:06] <solid_liq> !jfs
[08:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:06] <tuna-fish> but, is there some automatic way to delete them, or should I just go rm
[08:06] <Nubbie> taime1: also, change device and see if it's input is muted.
[08:06] <Josesordo> the gaim 2.00beta3.1 is bad, how to update a new version?
[08:06] <Nubbie> tuna-fish: that should be cleared out each reboot i think.
[08:06] <tuna-fish> they aren't...
[08:06] <squiggie> mungewell, I do not know what you mean
[08:06] <Nubbie> josesordo: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:07] <Josesordo> edgy eft
[08:07] <foug> anyone know how i can get beryl to use the gnome application window switch? I've asked in #beryl and no one seems to know
[08:07] <alien__> peepsalot: well i had to  call mye ompleyees at work to reboot the box, because when i did and when i always do sudo shutdown -r it gets stuck, now it gets stuck at the place where it displays the ubuntu logo name and a loading bar empty bar .. stuck for five minutes +
[08:07] <mungewell> squiggie - type 'set | grep DISPLAY' after you have ssh'ed to the remote machine.
[08:07] <Nubbie> josesordo: there is a gaim2beta6 out, maybe it's in edgy's backports.
[08:07] <alien__> peepsalot: it sux i cant even reboot without touching it.. :(
[08:08] <Nubbie> alien__: the vmnet thing?
[08:08] <squiggie> mungewell, should i get output?
[08:08] <peepsalot> alien__, stuck while shutting down or during the boot up?
[08:08] <alien__> peepsalot: shuting down, boot up is awsome, shuting down and restarting is ap roblem
[08:08] <da_shrewd> flannel: already paste, but when i upgrade and update, there is no folder of apache2
[08:09] <mike> foug: what do you mean "application windows switch"
[08:09] <mungewell> squiggie - if you have a DISPLAY variable set. If not type 'export DISPLAY=0.0' and then 'xeyes'
[08:09] <foug> mike: when you alt-tab
[08:09] <Josesordo> no nubbie, in synaptic dont have gaim2beta6 =(
[08:09] <taime1> do usb mics not workj in ubuntu?
[08:09] <Flannel> da_shrewd: Right.  There won't be.  But now you've got a working system again.  so, `sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2-common && sudo apt-get install apache2`
[08:09] <Nubbie> josesordo: have you enabled edgy backports?
[08:09] <squiggie> mungewell, after xeyes I get Cant open display 0.0
[08:10] <alien__> peepsalot: i have ubuntu server 6.10 edgy, but i installed gui with (ubuntu-desktop)
[08:10] <Nubbie> josesordo: also, were you planning on upgrading to feisty fawn? its being released quite soon.
[08:10] <alien__> Nubbie: how soon?
[08:10] <Nubbie> josesordo: gaim2beta6 is default in feisty fawn.
[08:10] <Nubbie> alien___: either tomorrow, or near the end of the month, i'm not sure.
[08:10] <mike> foug: did you try the beryl settings manager in windows
[08:10] <foug> mike: yea when i switch to the metacity one beryl doesn't work anymore.
[08:10] <da_shrewd> flannel: this message appear apache2 is already the newest version.
[08:10] <mike> windows management
[08:10] <Josesordo> well..I'll wait the official version of feisty ;)
[08:10] <mungewell> squiggie - this means that ssh session does not have permission to connect to the local X server...
[08:11] <alien__> Nubbie: ok, can you help us figure out my restartign and shutting down problem?
[08:11] <Nubbie> foug: yes, because starting metacity replaces beryl.
[08:11] <Nubbie> alien__: what's causing it?
[08:11] <foug> Nubbie: yes
[08:11] <mike> foug: open your beryl setting, right click the diamond and click beryl setting manager
[08:11] <apus> I get no sound in kubuntu, but i do during booting and logging off
[08:11] <mungewell> squiggie - what exactly do you type to start the 'vncserver' which provides the remote desktop capability?
[08:11] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: you need to uninstall apache, then reinstall it.
[08:11] <Flannel> da_shrewd: `sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2-common`
[08:11] <Flannel> da_shrewd: what does that give you?
[08:11] <alien__> Nubbie: peepsalot: well i had to  call mye ompleyees at work to reboot the box, because when i did and when i always do sudo shutdown -r it gets stuck, now it gets stuck at the place where it displays the
[08:12] <peepsalot> alien__, feisty gets release thursday according to ubuntuforums.org
[08:12] <alien__>                  ubuntu logo name and a loading bar empty bar .. stuck for five minutes +
[08:12] <foug> mike: k
[08:12] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found anyone know how to fix this?
[08:12] <mike> foug: once your there click the window management tab
[08:12] <alien__> peepsalot: ok
[08:12] <peepsalot> alien__, sorry I don't know why that would happen.
[08:12] <da_shrewd> flannel:Package apache2-common is not installed, so not removed
[08:12] <foug> mike: si
[08:12] <Flannel> da_shrewd: You're on feisty?  let me double check package names
[08:12] <squiggie> mungewell, vncserver :1
[08:13] <alien__> peepsalot: thankss =)
[08:13] <da_shrewd> flannel: yes, i'm using feisty
[08:13] <mike> you see the application window switcher?
[08:13] <peepsalot> alien__, what is the hardware?  maybe it is an ACPI issue, i don't know if ACPI support is related to reboots though
[08:13] <foug> mike: yea
[08:13] <Flannel> da_shrewd: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2.2-common
[08:13] <tuna-fish> so, I've got these humongous logfiles, most of their contents consist of the following: "Apr 18 01:11:32 localhost kernel: [203729.340411]  recvmsg bug: copied D7088EF3 seq D7088EFB"... there's 3.6 gigs of that in there, and it only stopped 'cos i ran out of diskspace... weird
[08:13] <Hc\> !java Hc\
[08:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java hc\ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:13] <shriki> hi i am a new ubuntu user w/ a stupid problem
[08:13] <Hc\> damn
[08:13] <mike> if you disable it, it should work
[08:13] <alien__> peepsalot: i have no clue my friend... hehe i think fiesty when i had fiesty deskotped instaled it was doin fine
[08:13] <Nubbie> shriki: your problem?
[08:13] <Hc\> how to install java? can some1 tell me?
[08:14] <Flannel> !java | Hc\
[08:14] <ubotu> Hc\: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:14] <Nubbie> !java | hc\
[08:14] <ubotu> hc\: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:14] <foug> mike: nope, then nothing happens when i alt tab
[08:14] <Nubbie> flannel :p
[08:14] <alien__> peepsalot: but this.. now sux
[08:14] <Hc\> thx
[08:14] <Nubbie> foug: are your keybindings set up to use alt+tab?
[08:14] <alien__> gonna have to fix somehow
[08:14] <shriki> my problem is re: wireless. The program that was in the upper right of my screen when the computer was new has disappeared. its graphic was a bar graph. it told me which wireless networks were available to me, and it is suddenly gone. can anyone help me get it back?
[08:14] <Flannel> da_shrewd: then sudo apt-get install apache2
[08:14] <mike> foug hold on feisty is acting up again
[08:14] <foug> Nubbie: well it works when i use metacity so i think so
[08:15] <Nubbie> foug: obvious question, but check both gnome keyboard shortcuts and beryl keyboard shortcuts.
[08:15] <da_shrewd> flannel: look this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16202/
[08:15] <Nubbie> foug: change the window switcher keyboard shortcut.
[08:15] <da_shrewd> flannel: there is error
[08:15] <Josesordo> so, anybody dont know how to change the propertary or group of a NTFS partition to me and not root :s
[08:15] <mungewell> squiggie - doesn't this just create a virtual X session, which is exported via the VNC protocol? I don't think that it is bound to any existing X session.
[08:15] <Nubbie> josesordo: sudo chown -R <your user name> /path/to/ntfs
[08:16] <solid_liq> hey, does *anyone* know of a live cd distro that, *for sure*, has LVM support as well as support for JFS partitions within an LVM?
[08:16] <foug> Nubbie: i changed it to alt itself and alt-tab does nothing
[08:16] <squiggie> mungewell, I believe so, does that matter?
[08:17] <solid_liq> and don't say the ubuntu alternate cd, it doesn't work
[08:17] <legos> whaddup mang?
[08:17] <Nubbie> foug: it needs to be alt+tab.
[08:17] <legos> anyone running vista on vmware?
[08:17] <mike> foug: I don't know, that is strange that it won't revert back to gnome
[08:17] <Nubbie> foug: since it only doesn't work with beryl running, you should ask in #ubuntu-effects
[08:17] <mungewell> squiggie - I just thought you were trying to use applications already started on the remote's desktop..... maybe I misunderstood.
[08:17] <foug> Nubbie: hmm, k
[08:17] <Nubbie> !anyone | legos
[08:17] <ubotu> legos: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:17] <foug> mike: yea it's annoying
[08:17] <apus> if I have 2 sound cards how do I tell it which one to use
[08:18] <shriki> what is the name of the default ubuntu wireless application?
[08:18] <mungewell> squiggie - so once it is started type 'netstat -an' and confirm that it's listening on the right/public interface.
[08:18] <crimsun> apus: system> preferences> sound
[08:18] <mike> foug: did you try restarting your session?
[08:18] <Josesordo> Nubbie, in /path/to/ntfs is: /media/hda5 for example
[08:18] <foug> mike: nope
[08:18] <legos> naw, my question is actually is anyone here running vista on vmware?
[08:18] <Nubbie> josesordo: if thats how you mounted it.
[08:18] <Nubbie> josesordo: did you create an /etc/fstab entry for it?
[08:19] <mike> you might want to try that. when i revert back to gnome it still won't let me do it
[08:19] <Nubbie> legos: try google?
[08:19] <apus> crimsum, im using kubuntu
[08:19] <Josesordo> ok..its work...Thanks ;)
[08:19] <mneptok> legos: ##windows
[08:19] <Nubbie> josesordo: did you make an fstab entry?
[08:19] <da_shrewd> flannel: there is error
[08:19] <da_shrewd> flannel: look this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16202/
[08:19] <mike> foug: sorry I couldn't help out any farther
[08:20] <pkundu> hi I was trying to use fetchyahoo to retrive all my yahoo mail, can any one help me with how to set it up
[08:20] <crimsun> apus: then use asoundconf(1) set-default-card
[08:20] <Nubbie> josesordo: unless you have an fstab entry for the drive, it will not be mounted after you restart your computer.
[08:20] <foug> mike: no worries man
[08:20] <Flannel> da_shrewd: sigh.  How did you delete this all in the first place?
[08:20] <solid_liq> legos, actually, vista is much worse than xp, I'd use xp instead.  most apps I tried to install in vista didn't work
[08:20] <vatzcar> hi, can anyone tell me plz how to take backup of mail in evolution?
[08:20] <Hc\> !flash | Hc\
[08:20] <mike> you have me searching for answers though
[08:20] <apus> crimsun, type that in konsole?
[08:20] <Nubbie> flannel: he was sloppy with the sudo rm -r
[08:20] <Hc\> !flash
[08:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:20] <ubotu> Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash
[08:20] <crimsun> apus: well, you need to read the syntax to use with asoundconf
[08:21] <Josesordo> nubbie, what entry in fstab?
[08:21] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> Not a huge deal, but clicking on links in the updater's "Release Notes" when you go to upgrade to Feisty don't work
[08:21] <Nubbie> !restricted | Hc\ (i suggest you read this)
[08:21] <ubotu> Hc\ (i suggest you read this): For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:21] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> sudo: x-www-browser: command not found
[08:21] <Nubbie> josesordo: how did you mount your ntfs drive?
[08:21] <da_shrewd> flannel: i accidentally delete the folder apache2 using command rm-r
[08:21] <Flannel> da_shrewd: why were you running as root?
[08:21] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: are you logged in as root?
[08:22] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> ironically, the link i clicked was for the bug launchpad thing :p
[08:22] <da_shrewd> flannel: yes
[08:22] <apus> "asoundconf set-default-card CARD"
[08:22] <Josesordo> well, is automatic...after install ntfs-3g
[08:22] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: do not log in as root if you won't want your stuff getting deleted.
[08:22] <apus> what do I enter for CARD
[08:22] <Josesordo> I guess
[08:22] <Nubbie> da_shewd: you shouldn't be logged in as root in the first place.
[08:22] <{uX}l`VampyrCeil> i didn't know it was possible to log on as root
[08:22] <Flannel> da_shrewd: There's a reason ubuntu doesn't have the root account enabled.
[08:22] <Nubbie> josesordo: you still need to make an fstab entry.
[08:22] <Nubbie> josesordo: read the ntfs-3g guide on that.
[08:23] <Nubbie> josesordo: as it's a little different than normal fstab ntfs entries.
[08:23] <da_shrewd> flannel: so, how i can solve my problem?
[08:23] <Flannel> da_shrewd: you'll need to kill apaches processes.  then try again
[08:23] <vatzcar> how can i take backup of my e-mails in evolution?
[08:23] <Josesordo> ok..where I can read guide?
[08:23] <Nubbie> josesordo: the reason you want to add an fstab entry, is so that every time your computer boots, the ntfs drive is mounted
[08:23] <da_shrewd> flannel: can u guide me step by step
[08:23] <Nubbie> !ntfs-3g | josesordo
[08:23] <ubotu> josesordo: ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but please remember to keep backups of critical data. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:23] <Nubbie> josesordo: read that last link.
[08:24] <sanityx> what does text mode install for manufacturers do
[08:24] <solid_liq> anyone know of a channel to ask about live cds?
[08:24] <da_shrewd> flannel: can u guide me step by step
[08:24] <Nubbie> sanityx: makes it so people who buy their computers can set it up afterwards.
[08:24] <sanityx> ok
[08:24] <Ilokaasu> solid_liq: ubuntu livecd ? ask here ?
[08:24] <Flannel> solid_liq: OEM installer allows you to setup a system, and then "finish" the setup (username, locale, etc) at a later time
[08:24] <Nubbie> da_shrewd: step 1: log out of root and come back as a user.
[08:25] <charliesu> Is Ubuntu coming into its own asfar as a server?  Where cna i find security notices?
[08:25] <da_shrewd> nubbie : ok, already logout from root
[08:25] <Nubbie> charliesu: in launchpad
[08:25] <Flannel> da_shrewd: actually, pastebin what `ps aux | grep apache` gives
[08:25] <charliesu> Nubbie: ok.. thanks
[08:25] <Josesordo> ok
[08:25] <Nubbie> charliesu: all bugs are filed there.
[08:26] <solid_liq> Ilokaasu, Flannel : the ubuntu live cd won't work to rescue my system that I upgraded to 7.04, and have the root and other partitions in an LVM with JFS
[08:26] <apus> I am still having trouble with my sound cards, how do I tell it which one to use by default
[08:26] <charliesu> Mumbles: ok.. that makes sense.. but how can i know if it affects my install?  any way to find out?
[08:26] <sanityx> the text mode for manufacturers is letting me set an awful lot of options for something thats supposed to let the end user configure it
[08:27] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16203/
[08:27] <sanityx> i.e. username and password
[08:27] <Nubbie> charliesu: if it affects anything you have installed on your server, it affects you.
[08:27] <Flannel> solid_liq: LiveCD knows LVM
[08:28] <Madpilot> charliesu, the Ubuntu maintainers send out security updates to the repos regularly
[08:28] <Nubbie> charliesu: i don't know if creating a profile will let you set up some custom things to watch or not.
[08:28] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16203/
[08:28] <Flannel> da_shrewd: hmm.  ok, try ps aux | grep httpd and pastebin that
[08:28] <Nubbie> madpilot: but i think he wants to know about the security problems that don't have updates.
[08:28] <Hc\> !gnash
[08:28] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[08:29] <Hc\> hmm
[08:29] <Flannel> sanityx: No.  There's the alternate CD, and on that CD is a normall installer, as well as the OEM version
[08:29] <Nubbie> gnash????? never heard of that :o
[08:29] <Hc\> with what command should i try to get it?
[08:29] <sanityx> im using the oem one
[08:29] <Hc\> wget -g ...?
[08:29] <Nubbie> hc\: sudo apt-get install gnash
[08:29] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16204/
[08:29] <Flannel> sanityx: where are you setting up a user/password?
[08:29] <solid_liq> Flannel, it may know LVM, but it doesn't work, I've already tried
[08:29] <Josesordo> nubbie, I do all of that instructions (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/)
[08:29] <sanityx> in the setup . . .
[08:29] <sanityx> im still booted off the cd
[08:29] <Nubbie> josesordo: make sure you did it correctly
[08:30] <Flannel> da_shrewd: hmm.  Ok, so apache is already stopped.  Alright.  Try that apt-get remove --purge thing again
[08:30] <sanityx> i selected  the option text install for manufacturers, and now its installing
[08:30] <Josesordo> yes..
[08:30] <Nubbie> josesordo: if it isn't set up correctly you may not be able to boot your system.
[08:30] <Josesordo> I can write in the partition
[08:30] <Flannel> sanityx: But it shouldnt have asked for a username/password
[08:30] <Josesordo> in my account
[08:30] <sanityx> but it did.
[08:30] <Hc\> oh, how do i know what all programs works apt-get ...?
[08:30] <Josesordo> in my NTFS partition dont have any OS just files (movies, mp3s, etc)..
[08:31] <Flannel> Hc\: open up "synaptic package manager" and you can browse
[08:31] <sanityx> Josesordo, if its just files, why are you using ntfs?
[08:31] <Nubbie> josesordo: i suggest you move over to ext3 then, unless it's a portable drive you take elsewhere
[08:31] <Hc\> still cant look att youtube videos -.-
[08:31] <Nubbie> hc\: restart firefox?
[08:31] <drayen> hey all
[08:31] <Hc\> im using konqueror
[08:32] <Nubbie> hc\: so restart that.
[08:32] <Nubbie> hc\: completely
[08:32] <Nubbie> hc\: as in killall konqueror
[08:32] <Hc\> how to "restart" it? just close windows?
[08:32] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16205/
[08:32] <Hc\> im a firstamer
[08:32] <Hc\> timer*
[08:32] <Nubbie> hc\: sudo killall konqueror
[08:32] <Nubbie> it should restart again.
[08:33] <nizo> i need some information about postfix e-mail
[08:33] <Hc\> ok, ty
[08:33] <drayen> got a bit of a problem... just moved into a new place, so im 'borrowing' some nice persons open wifi point... however the signal is "very low" acording to windows, but ubuntu (6.10) wont connect at all (using nm-applet or wifi radar) is there a comand line tool i can use or somthing?
[08:33] <Flannel> Hc\: in Konqueror, you need to go Settings > Configure Konqueror, and go to plugins, then "scan for new plugins"
[08:33] <Hc\> Flannel: i have done it once allready
[08:33] <nizo> i need to know how to add user in postfix
[08:33] <Nubbie> drayen: why don't you ask that nice person to increase the power output of their router?
[08:33] <Hc\> didn't work
[08:33] <nizo> ??
[08:33] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16205/
[08:33] <DVS01> when i switch users and log in and log out, the screen goes blank and then comes back.. sometimes it doesnt come back though.. is this a known issue?
[08:34] <DVS01> i end up having to restart gdm via ssh
[08:34] <Nubbie> DVS01: are you still running beryl?
[08:34] <DVS01> yeah.. is that the culprit?
[08:34] <Nubbie> DVS01: i can almost guaruntee it's related.
[08:34] <nizo> any user manual about postfix
[08:34] <DVS01> doh
[08:34] <Nubbie> !postfix
[08:34] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[08:34] <Nubbie> nizo ^^
[08:34] <sander> hi
[08:35] <nizo> hii nubbie
[08:35] <sander> how to get X11-dev to install in ubuntu
[08:35] <cy_`> moin
[08:35] <Josesordo> nubbie, if possible change ntfs to ext3 with out format?... :s
[08:35] <DVS01> Nubbie: is there a way to solve this outside of beryl? perhaps have even the login screen be opengl rendered, so that the display doesnt have to switch the way it does?
[08:35] <sander> vi apt-get
[08:35] <sander> some know ^^
[08:35] <Flannel> da_shrewd: `sudo nano /etc/init.d/apache2` then after the first few lines, type "exit 0" (no quotes) then ctrl-o and ctrl-x, then try the removal again
[08:35] <Nubbie> josesordo: no.
[08:35] <Hc\> !wine
[08:35] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:35] <Nubbie> DVS01: ctrl alt F2, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[08:36] <Flannel> da_shrewd: right after NO_START=0
[08:36] <Nubbie> DVS01: it will restart your GDM.
[08:36] <Josesordo> well, when I burn all data I format that and change to ext3
[08:36] <Josesordo> will need some especial program for that transformation?
[08:36] <Cosmo_> on the NVIDIA X server it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it, how do I fix this?
[08:36] <sander> where i can download x11-devel
[08:36] <Nubbie> josesordo: if you aren't running windows at all, and if it's not a removable drive, it makes sense to go to ext3.
[08:36] <Flannel> da_shrewd: er, sorry.  that should be `exit 4` not 0
[08:36] <Nubbie> josesordo: nope, gparted will work fine
[08:36] <DVS01> Nubbie: nothing responds at that point, i have to ssh in. i'm sorta trying to avoid the problem from the start. it seems like i'm stuck unless i stop using beryl =/
[08:37] <sander> this is necessary to mplayer compile with gui support
[08:37] <Nubbie> DVS01: why do you have to ssh in?
[08:37] <DVS01> Nubbie: because the system doesnt respond to any keystrokes
[08:37] <cy_`> will alot (regarding the gfx-drivers and auto-recognition) change from the daily-build of feisty to tomorrows release?
[08:37] <Nubbie> sander: sudo apt-get install mplayer
[08:37] <Nubbie> sander: or if you're building from scratch, sudo apt-get build-dep mplayer
[08:37] <Josesordo> ok..thanks for the help...I'll change to ext3 when burn all data ;)
[08:37] <Nubbie> josesordo: good luck.
[08:38] <Nubbie> DVS01: then it IS beryl messing your system up.
[08:38] <DVS01> doh. :/
[08:38] <nizo> ok ubotu ,, i read that, but i need to know how to add users in postfix ?
[08:38] <Nubbie> DVS01: what kind of video card do you have? how much ram?
[08:38] <DVS01> nvidia geforce 7600 512mb
[08:38] <nizo> using mysql may be
[08:39] <sander> Nubbie: thank you
[08:39] <Nubbie> sander: no problem :)
[08:39] <sander> Nubbie: :)
[08:39] <DVS01> ah.. could this be the black window bug?
[08:39] <DVS01> hrm
[08:39] <sander> Nubbie: sea
[08:39] <Nubbie> DVS01: yes there is a problem with beryl.
[08:39] <Nubbie> DVS01: it's in the settings under Blur.
[08:39] <da_shrewd> flannel: there is no start=0, The line show no start=1
[08:39] <fiery_cleric> looks like ubutu's factoids fcsked up https://bot.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?search=ls
[08:40] <Nubbie> DVS01: i don't know if that's your problem, i don't use Nvidia cards myself, but it might be.
[08:40] <mistone> ubuntu is winrar
[08:40] <Flannel> da_shrewd: eh, that's fine.  Just put it right after that line.
[08:40] <Josesordo> well, I go to sleep...see ya ;)
[08:40] <Nubbie> !rar | mistone
[08:40] <ubotu> mistone: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:40] <mistone> hahahaha
[08:40] <Nubbie> :l
[08:40] <DVS01> ill look into it
[08:40] <da_shrewd> flannel: same error appear
[08:41] <Nubbie> DVS01: if you still have trouble, ask for help in #ubuntu-effects
[08:41] <Nubbie> DVS01: or in #beryl
[08:41] <nizo> heysssssss
[08:41] <nizo> neeeeed heelllppp
[08:41] <Flannel> da_shrewd: pastebin that file (init.d/apache2)
[08:41] <Nubbie> nizo: be patient.
[08:41] <Nubbie> nizo: if nobody answers, nobody knows.
[08:41] <nizo> okk
[08:42] <Nubbie> nizo: i'm just guessing but i think each postfix user needs an account on your system.
[08:42] <Nubbie> nizo: i don't know though.
[08:42] <Nubbie> nizo: read up on it.
[08:42] <cy_`> or /join #postfix
[08:42] <nizo> yaa. i think we should use mysql to add user
[08:42] <Nubbie> that too :)
[08:42] <da_shrewd> flannel: how to select all the line?
[08:43] <Flannel> da_shrewd: open it in gedit
[08:43] <DVS01> Nubbie: sorry for being a bit off topic here.. you did help me out though
[08:43] <fiery_cleric> !ls
[08:43] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:43] <Ollie|> is there a command to get the system specs (cpu/memory) from the terminal?
[08:44] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16207/
[08:44] <Nubbie> DVS01: i know, i don't mind, but i think we've established it's definitely a beryl problem and you'd get the best help from #ubuntu-effects or #beryl. all i'm saying.
[08:44] <DVS01> yup
[08:45] <Nubbie> (that and the moderator types in here don't like people asking for help about it in here :) )
[08:45] <apus> ollie i know this one! just give me a second
[08:45] <Flannel> da_shrewd: put exit 4 on the line after that.  not the same one
[08:45] <da_shrewd> ok
[08:45] <fiery_cleric> Nubbie: isnt it part of ubuntu?
[08:45] <da_shrewd> flannel: ok
[08:46] <Flannel> fiery_cleric: not until feisty.
[08:46] <Nubbie> fiery_cleric: no as far as i know, it's still beta software.
[08:46] <Flannel> fiery_cleric: and I imagine that even after that, we'll still redirect.  since it has it's own slew of issues and quirks, best left to a specialized channel
[08:46] <Nubbie> flannel: even then, right now it still belongs in #ubuntu+1, and probably even after feisty is out it will belong in #ubuntu-effects
[08:46] <apus> I forget olliel
[08:47] <Flannel> Nubbie: Well, if he's on feisty.  +1 yes.
[08:47] <fiery_cleric> Flannel: yeah but there is ~1000 ppl in here ... more chance of gettting an solution
[08:47] <da_shrewd> flannel: same error
[08:47] <Flannel> fiery_cleric: no there isnt.  Just because this channel exists, doesn't mean you can be offtopic in it.
[08:47] <Nubbie> fiery_cleric: its BETA software. this channel is for people with actual problems.
[08:47] <fiery_cleric> Flannel: so this is for stuff in ubuntu or not ....
[08:48] <Nubbie> fiery_cleric: people who choose to use beta software should have a channel with other people who know what their problem is.
[08:48] <kraut> moin
[08:48] <Flannel> da_shrewd: eh?  Pastebin the error you get.  And double check that the file has exit 4 on te line below that.   And is infact saved.
[08:48] <fiction> When i have firefox open with a few tabs, it ubuntu gets quite slowl anyone else gets this?
[08:48] <Nubbie> fiery_cleric: beryl has nothing to do with ubuntu.
[08:48] <Nubbie> fiery_cleric: other than some users use it.
[08:48] <Cosmo_> I installedthe LPR driver for my printer(brother intellifax 1840C) and it lists it,  however when I try to print a test page it gives me an error /usr/bin/lpr -P 'FAX1840C'  /usr/share/apps/kdeprint/testprint.ps execution failed with message  /usr/bin/lpr : the printer or class was not found anyone know how to fix this?
[08:48] <varka> what is the best solution to install vdr and mms in ubuntu? both from the repos or compiled from source?
[08:48] <fiery_cleric> will soon tho apparently
[08:48] <Nubbie> fiery_cleric: and in ubuntu feisty, it will use compiz.
[08:48] <Nubbie> fiery_cleric: which is NOT beryl.
[08:48] <fiery_cleric> right ...
[08:48] <Flannel> either way this argument over topicality is offtopic ;)
[08:49] <Nubbie> :o
[08:49] <Cosmo_> will be once the merger is done
[08:49] <Nubbie> cosmo_: its all talk.
[08:49] <da_shrewd> flannel: apache error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16208/
[08:49] <nrgy> Nubbie, umm no go read the forums its offical
[08:49] <pkundu> how do i configure my thunder bird to get mails from /var/mail/username
[08:49] <HorizonXP> can someone help me wtih nvidia-settings?
[08:49] <Nubbie> ooooh excellent! last time i checked it was just talk.
[08:50] <danfg> i'm trying to ssh into linux, i'm getting "Server refused our key". i put the public key in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys. what else is there to do?
[08:50] <aa^way> hey, i want to listen mp3 and look youtube/video.gogle.com videos, what i need to download?
[08:50] <da_shrewd> flannel: file /init.d/apache2 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16209/
[08:51] <da_shrewd> flannel: apache error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16208/
[08:51] <da_shrewd> flannel: file /init.d/apache2 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16209/
[08:51] <Nubbie> !restricted | aa^way
[08:51] <ubotu> aa^way: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:51] <Ollie|> I have just done  apt-get install phpsysinfo
[08:51] <Ollie|> but I cannot access it at http://<IP_ADDRESS>/phpsysinfo/
[08:51] <Jordan_U> !codecs | aa^way
[08:51] <ubotu> aa^way: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:52] <Ollie|> how do I set this up in the apache config?
[08:52] <Nubbie> ollie|: doesn't that need to run on top of apache?
[08:52] <Jordan_U> Sorry about that, just a little late :)
[08:52] <Nubbie> ollie|: is apache running?
[08:52] <Ollie|> yes
[08:52] <Cosmo_> on the NVIDIA X server it is no longer showing my second monitor or letting me make adjustments to it, how do I fix this?
[08:52] <Ollie|> I can access website/webmin etc
[08:52] <aa^way> thanks jordan/Nubbie
[08:52] <Nubbie> ollie|: and you're going to need to have the phpsysinfo in /var/www/phpinfo folder
[08:52] <Nubbie> !dualhead | cosmo_
[08:52] <ubotu> cosmo_: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[08:53] <Flannel> da_shrewd: sorry.  change that exit 4 to just plain 'exit'  and try it again.
[08:53] <da_shrewd> flannel: ok
[08:54] <Ollie|> the folder is currently at /var/www/phpsysinfo
[08:54] <Ollie|> the same place that phpmyadmin has gone to
[08:54] <Nubbie> ollie|: and you have php installed?
[08:54] <Ollie|> the root of my server is /home/oliver/www
[08:54] <Nubbie> ollie|: the apache php stuff that is?
[08:54] <Ollie|> yes php is all installed
[08:54] <da_shrewd> flannel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16210/  ..............is it ok?
[08:55] <Flannel> da_shrewd: yes.  Now reinstall apache2
[08:55] <Nubbie> ollie|: i don't know what to say, you're sure apache is running, and the web folder is in there..
[08:55] <Ollie|> I need to setup apache so that when I type httt://<IP_ADDRESS>/phpsysinfo/ it looks to /var/www/phpsysinfo/ instead of /home/oliver/www/phpsysinfo/
[08:55] <Nubbie> ollie|: are there any server side programs that need to run in order for it to work? other than the web server?
[08:55] <Ollie|> don't think so
[08:56] <Nubbie> ollie|: so you're having an apache problem.
[08:56] <DVS01> hahahaha
[08:56] <Nubbie> ollie|: you should change the server root back to where it is by default.
[08:56] <disinterested> when im downloading some thing and the downloads window is open the percentage goes up and the download will complete but the percentage bar never moves how do i fix this?
[08:56] <DVS01> i am using synergy, using my windows machine to control linux laptop's mouse/keyboard