[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122447 in Ubuntu "workspace isn't working - sometimes I lose everything from the screen as well." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122447
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122448 in amarok (main) "Rating no longer confirmed by OSD" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122448
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122449 in gnome-control-center (main) "gnome-appearance-properties crashed with SIGSEGV in poll()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122449
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122450 in xine-lib (main) "[gutsy]  libxine1-doc (1.1.7-1ubuntu1) depends on -dev packages" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122450
[12:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122263 in Ubuntu "ubuntu 7.04 server" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122263
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122451 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV after removing wired network cable to switch to WPA2 wireless access point. (dup-of: 122380)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122451
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122452 in apport (main) "apport-gtk crashed with OSError in mark_report_seen() (dup-of: 122347)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122452
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122453 in vino (main) "vino-preferences crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122453
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122454 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122454
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122455 in gnome-speech (main) "espeak-synthesis-driver crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122455
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122456 in compiz (main) "[Gutsy]  /usr/bin/compiz hangs" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122456
[01:53] <etank> only by a few hours :)
[01:55] <bdmurray> It's Hug Day in Europe now
[01:55] <Neolithium> Hehehe, I ditched a day with the inlaws for it. LOL
[01:55] <Zelut> I guess we can pretend
[01:55] <bdmurray> Well parts of Europe
[01:55] <Zelut> Neolithium: I've done the same for lesser reasons :)
[01:55] <Neolithium> LOL!
[01:55] <bdmurray> The wiki page is set up
[01:55] <Neolithium> Doh! There's no debugging symbols for Kino. :/
[01:56] <Zelut> Neolithium: I ditch them just because I don't like them :)
[01:56] <gnomefreak> wtf is going on here
[01:56] <gnomefreak> why in gods name would i need to have gnome-themes-extras installed
[02:04] <gnomefreak> meta packages suck tonight.
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122459 in compiz (main) "[gutsy]  cannot log in on edubuntu DesktopCD" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122459
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122461 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV in cairo_set_line_width()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122461
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122463 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122463
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122462 in gimp (main) "gimp-remote-2.3 crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122462
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122464 in totem (main) "totem-plugin-viewer crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122464
[03:27] <livingtarget> I have a bug in gnome-screensaver, it's noted on launchpad as fixed in dapper but only occurred during feisty and now in gutsy. It needs to be re-opened I think, but I don't know how. I left a few replies during Feisty beta period, but nothing ever happened.
[03:28] <gnomefreak> livingtarget: ty you just gave me the idea of a lifetime i think
[03:29] <livingtarget> really?
[03:31] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:33] <livingtarget> right I've nominated it for the gutsy release comes closest I think
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122466 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "PS/2 Keyboard Not Recognized" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122466
[03:37] <bdmurray> what bug livingtarget?
[03:38] <livingtarget> hang on
[03:38] <livingtarget> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsdl1.2/+bug/32457
[03:38] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 32457 in gnome-screensaver "gnome-screensaver activates while playing SDL games" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[03:41] <bdmurray> livingtarget: you might comment on the upstream bug too
[03:42] <livingtarget> ok will do
[03:43] <bdmurray> reading the ubuntu bug it looks like it got fixed upstream
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122467 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Blank display on suspend" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122467
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122468 in grub (main) "DISK BOOT FAILURE after 7.04 upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122468
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122469 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122469
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122470 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122470
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122471 in gnome-mount (main) "gnome-mount crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122471
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122472 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122472
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122473 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122473
[05:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122474 in restricted-manager (main) "restricted-manager crashed with IndexError in enable()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122474
[05:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122476 in mixxx (universe) "Mixxx crashed while playing known good MP3" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122476
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122477 in python2.5 (main) "python2.5 crashed with SIGSEGV in delete_aspell_speller()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122477
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122478 in vlc (universe) "vlc crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122478
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122479 in file-roller (main) "file-roller crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122479
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122480 in f-spot (main) "f-spot.exe crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122480
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122483 in gltron (universe) "gltron crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122483
[07:07] <Hobbsee> hiya Admiral_Chicago
[07:07] <Hobbsee> it's HUG DAY!!!!
[07:08] <bikeboy> Bug #119777 won't let me mark it as a dupe of bug #118205 because another bug was marked as a dupe of 119777. But I have since fixed that and it still won't let me
[07:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119777 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Not work network controller: RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119777
[07:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118205 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 "Gutsy kernel 2.6.22-5-generic missing rt61 module" [High,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118205
[07:09] <ScottK> bikeboy: First you have to unmark the dupe.  You can't have a dupe of a dupe.
[07:09] <Hobbsee> bikeboy: you need to make https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/120227 a dupe of the master bug, ie 118205
[07:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120227 in linux-source-2.6.22 "rt2500-based network card not assigned network interface (dup-of: 119777)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[07:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119777 in linux-source-2.6.22 "Not work network controller: RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)" [Undecided,New]
[07:10] <bikeboy> ScottK: looking for how, don't know my way around launchpad that well
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122488 in evolution (main) "evolution-alarm-notify crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122488
[07:10] <ScottK> bikeboy: Go to the spot where you would enter a duplicate bug number.
[07:10] <bikeboy> ok
[07:10] <Admiral_Chicago> hey there Hobbsee. i know!
[07:10] <ScottK> bikeboy: You'll see the number it's a duplicate of there.  Erase it and then save the change.
[07:11] <ScottK> bikeboy: Like much of LP, it's not very intuitive unless you already know how.
[07:11] <Admiral_Chicago> i plan to work on the xubuntu boogs that are milestoned for tribe 2
[07:11] <Admiral_Chicago> likely, xubuntu bugs in general
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122484 in slune (universe) "slune crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122484
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122485 in ifupdown (main) "ifup crashed with SIGILL" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122485
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122486 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122486
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122487 in restricted-manager (main) "restricted-manager crashed with IndexError in enable()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122487
[07:14] <bikeboy> ScottK: Thanks, got it fixed now
[07:14] <bikeboy> bye
[07:16] <bikeboy> Hobbsee: Originally I made 120227 a dupe of the master like you said, but its status as a dupe of 119777 didn't disappear, so I couldn't complete the fix. Seems I had to erase the original dupe first.
[07:17] <Hobbsee> bikeboy: yes, that's exactly right.
[07:17] <Hobbsee> you have to dupe all dupes of the master
[07:17] <bikeboy> so straightforward lol
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122489 in rubber (universe) "rubber fails with spaces in file path" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122489
[07:45] <dholbach> good morning
[08:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122491 in kdegraphics (main) "kpdf fails to open certain password prottected files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122491
[08:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122493 in mono (main) "Package "Desktop Flickr Organizer" for Ubuntu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122493
[08:45] <ccm> *moan*
[08:45] <Hobbsee> hm?
[08:46] <ccm> just pushing me up :)
[08:46] <ccm> typing "moan" is better than doing so in an office :)
[08:46] <Hobbsee> ahh
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #89343 in human-icon-theme "Folder Icon needs rasterised versions for smooth drag'n'drop (dup-of: 69331)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89343
[08:56] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: ping
[08:59] <dholbach> Hobbsee: he just went to bed
[09:00] <Hobbsee> #121456
[09:00] <dholbach> bug 121456
[09:00] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 121456 in adept "Adept couldn't open debtags database" [Critical,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/121456
[09:00] <Hobbsee> dholbach: damn.  i was hoping he'd do a -qa membership
[09:00] <Hobbsee> oh bleh.  i'd eithe rdone that, or was keeping track of it.
[09:01] <dholbach> grmbl, heno isn't qa admin
[09:02] <dholbach> but sfflaw still is
[09:04] <Hobbsee> dholbach: if hte launchpad guys are up, you could probably ask them to change it.
[09:04] <Hobbsee> dholbach: it'd be really good if pygi could have qa for this hugday, and bdmurray last said that he was too busy to look
[09:05] <dholbach> right - maybe they're up
[09:07] <Hobbsee> dholbach: make my machine faster.
[09:07] <Hobbsee> kthxbye.
[09:08] <dholbach> me? I? your machine?
[09:09] <Hobbsee> yes.
[09:13] <leagris> hi, anyone could have a look at this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/118310 and have an idea for a workaround ?
[09:13] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118310 in linux-source-2.6.20 "pktcdvd bound device limit the size readable from attached device when mounting ISO9660 or UDF dual layer DVD-ROM." [Undecided,Confirmed]
[09:14] <ccm> leagris: pleas go to #ubuntu-devel or #ubuntu
[09:14] <ccm> leagris: you will find more support there
[09:14] <leagris> thx ccm
[09:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122494 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "pinnacle pctv 110i remote does not work in feisty" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122494
[09:37] <thekorn> morning! - Happy Hug Day
[09:39] <coNP> morgen, thekorn
[09:39] <coNP> happy bug day everyone
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122496 in mono (main) "mono always crashes on ppc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122496
[09:41] <thekorn> hey coNP
[09:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122498 in aptoncd (universe) "search repos" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122498
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122499 in elinks (main) "Reports wrong URI for "No such file or directory"." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122499
[09:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122500 in ubiquity (main) "Kubuntu - Mount dialog always gets shown when the disk is mounted, in the middle of the install" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122500
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122501 in compiz (main) "titlebar appears offscreen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122501
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122502 in gnome-keyring (main) "[PATCH]  memory leak + error handling glitch in gnome-keyring-proto.c:gnome_keyring_proto_decode_find_reply" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122502
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122503 in vdrift (universe) "RM: vdrift -- [ROM]  licence issues" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122503
[10:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122504 in casper (main) "Kubuntu 20070627 UK keyboad is set to US keymap on liveCD" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122504
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122505 in compiz (main) "resize big windows to fit the screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122505
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122506 in totem (main) "totem crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122506
[10:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122507 in compiz (main) "middle click titlebar  the window loses focused" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122507
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122508 in tomboy (main) "Notes sometimes not closing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122508
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122509 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122509
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122510 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122510
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122511 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122511
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122512 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122512
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122513 in Ubuntu "Link colouring when viewing e-mail messages with links" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122513
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122514 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122514
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122515 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122515
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122516 in Ubuntu "Display broken when changing resolution in gnome" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122516
[10:29] <seb128> doh
[10:29] <Hobbsee> whee!
[10:30] <seb128> apport is running
[10:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122517 in evince (main) "evince crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122517
[10:37] <ccm> uhm, just wondering why i cannot find a native postfix bugtracker
[10:37] <ccm> don't they have one?
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122518 in ubiquity (main) "canceling the language support download gives confusing error message" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122518
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122519 in deluge-torrent (universe) "deluge cra shed with ImportError in find_class()" (dup-of: 121836)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122519
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122520 in tomboy (main) "Tomboy.exe crashed with SIGSEGV in g_datalist_clear()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122520
[10:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122521 in Ubuntu "x86_64 SMP load balancing broken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122521
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122522 in apport (main) "Apport generates URL with errors" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122522
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122523 in compizconfig-settings-manager (universe) "ccsm crashed with NameError in Activated()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122523
[11:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122524 in motion (universe) "motion crashes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122524
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122525 in firefox-granparadiso (universe) "firefox-granparadiso-bin crashed with SIGSEGV in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122525
[11:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122526 in evolution-data-server (main) "evolution-data-server-1.12 crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122526
[11:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122527 in tinyerp-client (universe) "tinyerp-client.py crashed with ProtocolError in request()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122527
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122528 in nspluginwrapper (multiverse) "[nspluginwrapper]  nspluginwrapper won't upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122528
[12:05] <dholbach> wow... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20070627 looks green already
[12:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122529 in mozilla-thunderbird (main) "Non-Thunderbird IMAP folders not visible to Thunderbird" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122529
[12:07] <dholbach> good work guys :)
[12:08] <khermans_> hrmm, ipod not working in Gutsy, how can i triage this?
[12:08] <khermans_> it would appear that messages recognizes it, tailed the log
[12:08] <khermans_> so device is known to kernel
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122531 in rhythmbox (main) "rhythmbox crashes on start with ipod" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122531
[12:11] <ccm> :)
[12:11] <dholbach> khermans_: does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingRemovableDevices help?
[12:12] <khermans_> dholbach, yes thank you
[12:12] <khermans_> also, it appears device has changed to /dev/sg0 -- maybe this is new in Gutsy kernels
[12:13] <txwikinger2> dholbach: Is it possible to configure bughelper for a proxy ?
[12:13] <khermans_> all older releases populate /dev/sd*
[12:14] <dholbach> txwikinger2: I never tried that - urllib2 should just use proxy settings if you have them
[12:14] <txwikinger2> the environment variables?
[12:15] <dholbach> yes, I think so
[12:15] <txwikinger2> I will try that
[12:15] <khermans_> txwikinger, export http_proxy=http://foo:8080
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122533 in Ubuntu "mixer_applet2 2.18.0 odd behaviour" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122533
[12:16] <khermans_> you can also try exporting ftp_proxy
[12:19] <txwikinger2> dholbach: Yes.. this seems to work.. thanks
[12:20] <dholbach> NICE :)
[12:20] <txwikinger2> dholbach: oopps... I was to fast
[12:20] <txwikinger2> too
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122535 in casper (main) "Kubuntu liveCD ipw3945 could not read microcode" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122535
[12:25] <khermans_> I can't get my brand new 80GB ipod to work in Gutsy :-(
[12:25] <khermans_> i am told that /dev/sg0 is not a valid block device
[12:25] <khermans_> now, why is it not being mounted in /dev/sd?
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122534 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "No Sound ALC883 Realtek" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122534
[12:31] <ccm> dholbach: at wich bugsquad level am i able to mark bugs as wishlist?
[12:31] <dholbach> ccm: you need to be member of ubuntu-qa
[12:31] <ccm> dholbach: a right, you told me before
[12:31] <dholbach> ccm: best to talk to bdmurray about once he's awake, or drop him a mail
[12:31] <ccm> dholbach: thanks, i will check the wiki for that, too
[12:33] <khermans_> dholbach, i will see you at ubuntu live :-)
[12:33] <dholbach> nice khermans_ - I look forward to it
[12:33] <khermans_> dholbach, i am speaking on clonezilla
[12:33] <dholbach> cool
[12:33] <khermans_> nice to meet the people behind irc for once!
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122539 in firefox (main) "firefox-bin crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122539
[12:40] <khermans_> /dev/sg0 is mounting a character device when i plug in my ipod on Gutsy -- how do I make it mount as a block device?
[12:40] <khermans_> i checked /dev/udev/rules.d
[12:40] <khermans_> s/dev/etc/
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122540 in Ubuntu "System Tray Icons Rearranged" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122540
[12:48] <txwikinger2> dholbach: khermans_: I solved the problem. http_proxy and https_proxy must be set
[12:48] <khermans_> right
[12:48] <khermans_> txwikinger, https_proxy i dont believe needs to be
[12:48] <khermans_> http takes care of that doesnt it?
[12:48] <txwikinger2> it didn't
[12:49] <txwikinger2> when i set https_proxy as well it worked
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122541 in openoffice.org (main) "Openoffice.org shows inconsistent fonts in styles" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122541
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122542 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122542
[12:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122543 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu dont start at the end" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122543
[01:04] <ajmitch> heh
[01:04] <ajmitch> speak of the devil...
[01:04] <shawarma> hm?
[01:04] <ajmitch> 23:04  * ajmitch wonders how the server bugday is going
[01:04] <ajmitch> 23:04 -!- shawarma<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-bugs
[01:04] <shawarma> Heh..
[01:04] <shawarma> Your clock is waaay off, though.
[01:04] <ajmitch> not 3 seconds after I asked
[01:05] <ajmitch> yeah, wednesday is nearly over
[01:05] <shawarma> Hm... What happened to my cloak?
[01:06] <heno> samba bug 106503 closed
[01:06] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 106503 in samba "samba when trying to install it with synaptic" [Medium,Invalid]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/106503
[01:06] <shawarma> I've been too busy working on a *weird* bug on the amd64 server iso.. I'm just about to take a look at the wiki page for a status.
[01:07] <ajmitch> how weird?
[01:07] <shawarma> 4.6 on my weird-shit-o-meter
[01:08] <heno> does that go to 11?
[01:08] <shawarma> 3
[01:08] <heno> ah, that's bad then :)
[01:09] <shawarma> libapache2-mod-php5 didn't get installed.. apt-cache show libapache2-mod-php5 said "Task: lamp-server". apt-get install lamp-server^  says everything was installed, but libapache2-mod-php5 wasn't on the list.
[01:10] <shawarma> If I removed the CD from sources.list and did it again, it pulls it in..
[01:10] <shawarma> whiskey tango foxtrot.
[01:10] <ajmitch> so it's getting a different task list from the cd?
[01:10] <ajmitch> which would be rather odd, to say the list
[01:10] <ajmitch> s/list/least/
[01:11] <shawarma> Something like that. I've stared at the Packages from the CD for an hour. It's exactly the same as the one in the archive.
[01:11] <shawarma> mvo has a fix, but we have no idea why it happens.
[01:11] <shawarma> Oh, and it's only on amd64.
[01:11] <shawarma> sparc and i386 are fine.
[01:12] <shawarma> me too. mvo is on it.
[01:12] <shawarma> :)
[01:12] <ajmitch> heh
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122544 in nbd (main) "nbd-server crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122544
[01:16] <jwendell> Hi, seb128
[01:17] <txwikinger2> sigh
[01:17] <txwikinger2> I think squid doesn't want to do that
[01:17] <seb128> jwendell: hi, going for lunch now, ask your question though, I'll reply after it
[01:17] <jwendell> seb128, just about that bug on vino/gnome-keyring
[01:18] <jwendell> seb128, vino was compiled (in feisty) without support to gnomekeyring, wasn't it?
[01:19] <dholbach> hi jwendell
[01:19] <dholbach> seb128: bon appetit
[01:19] <jwendell> dholbach, hi!
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122545 in sword (universe) "Please sync sword (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122545
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122547 in network-manager-applet (main) ".pot file is not generated on build time" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122547
[01:23] <jwendell> seb128, maybe adding --enable-gnome-keyring=no in debian/rules
[01:24] <jwendell> seb128, of course, the bug still exists (my guess is that it belongs to gnome-keyring, as you did on bugzilla)
[01:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122548 in network-manager (main) "NetworkManager doesn't find network with accent in ESSID" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122548
[01:37] <seb128> jwendell: not sure, the configure doesn't print a summary, it Build-Depends on the keyring lib and there was not configure option used
[01:37] <seb128> so whatever is the upstream default when the keyring libs are installed
[01:37] <seb128> and I would prefer getting the bug fixed than masking it with a build without keyring
[01:37] <jwendell> seb128, you're right
[01:38] <jwendell> i'm just thinking why vino is being compiled with gnome-keyring support, when default=no...
[01:39] <khermans_> how do i force my /dev/sg0 to mount as block device and not character device?
[01:39] <khermans_> this is for an ipod
[01:44] <txwikinger2> hmm .. I intended to triage some bugs and end up submitting new ones :)
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122549 in compiz (main) "[gutsy]  compiz fusion breaking gnome-screensaver behaviour" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122549
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122550 in lufs (universe) "lufs-source won't compile" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122550
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122551 in python2.5 (main) "HTTPS over proxy (squid) fails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122551
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122552 in nautilus-sendto (main) "sendto doesn't work when used from a smb share" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122552
[01:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122553 in driconf (universe) "Please merge driconf (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122553
[02:00] <mdz> heno: is there a task list for the server bug day?
[02:00] <heno> mdz: yep https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20070627
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122554 in xen-tools (universe) "Please merge xen-tools (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122554
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122555 in xmms2 (universe) "Please merge xmms2 (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122555
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122557 in meta-kde (main) "kde occasionally ignores forced dpi settings" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122557
[02:11] <ScottK> ccm: Postfix does not have a bug tracker.  You post to postfix-users, get a lot of pushback, and then eventually, if you are right, Weitse produces a patch.
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122558 in piuparts (universe) "Please sync piuparts (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122558
[02:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122559 in gnome-mount (main) "nautilus crashes when viewing properties of external (USB) HD" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122559
[02:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122560 in Ubuntu "no sound with 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122560
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122562 in compiz (main) "The frame rate is low, unless using --indirect-rendering" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122562
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122563 in partman (main) "The alternate install CD creates a /boot partition with only 32 inodes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122563
[02:39] <ScottK> If been trying to figure out a postinst problem with clamsmtp for some time.  Maybe someone from the server team is here that could look at Bug #108303.  It happens reliably on an Edgy/Feisty upgrade but no other time (I even built the Feisty version for Edgy and upgraded just that package and couldn't recreate the error).
[02:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 108303 in clamsmtp "subprocess post-install script rt err st 2" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108303
[02:40] <ccm> ScottK: strange (postfix), thank you
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122564 in gajim (universe) "Gajim depends on python-gtk" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122564
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122566 in tomboy (main) "[gutsy]  Tomboy applet crashes on startup, then works fine" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122566
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122567 in app-install-data-ubuntu (main) "Invalid ELF Header" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122567
[02:41] <ScottK> ccm: Their view is that they don't leave bugs lying around.  They have an internal work list in their development team, but no public bug tracker.
[02:41] <ccm> How should I deal with a bug that occurs when you are using a live cd to provide server applications? (e.g. an apache webserver=
[02:41] <ScottK> ccm: So far I can't complain with their approach.  It certainly seems to work for them.
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122565 in unifont (main) "unifont-bin is not able to find /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc directory" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122565
[02:42] <ccm> ScottK: well that's ok, but I really like it to go on a website, click "bug tracker" and check if an error is already mentioned and what status is has
[02:42] <ScottK> Sure
[02:42] <ccm> but no religion about that
[02:43] <ccm> back to my question, a live cd uses unionfs which harms some applications using the "sendfile" mechanism
[02:43] <ScottK> ccm: To answer your question, I'd say find out why it fails and assign the bug to an appropriate package.  I don't know that it won't get won't fixed (since Live CD is desktop, not server).
[02:43] <ccm> like apache
[02:43] <ScottK> Since it's a Desktop LiveCD, I'd say wishlist or won't fix.
[02:43] <ccm> okay
[02:43] <ScottK> It's certainly not an Apache bug.
[02:43] <ScottK> But that's just me.
[02:43] <ccm> i also think wont fix because it makes no sense to fix it
[02:44] <ccm> thank you
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122568 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "EBUSY trying to mount unmounted /boot filesystem" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122568
[02:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122569 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122569
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122570 in Ubuntu "SMAUG does not go up" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122570
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122571 in update-notifier (main) "new asoundconf notification is useless" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122571
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122572 in beryl-core (universe) "beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in XCloseDisplay()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122572
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122573 in gnome-vfs2 (main) "gnome-vfs-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122573
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122574 in pidgin (main) "pidgin crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122574
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122575 in network-manager (main) "updating network manager clears my eth0 interface" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122575
[03:07] <mdz> heno: ah, it's linked from UbuntuBugDay but not from /Schedule
[03:07] <ranf> hi
[03:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122580 in gnupg (main) "gpg --gen-key fails on server "Not enough random bytes available."" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122580
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122576 in ndiswrapper-modules-i386 (universe) "system freeze on resume" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122576
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122578 in nautilus (main) "DAVS through Nautilus" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122578
[03:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122579 in fluxbox (universe) "fluxbox has an empty menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122579
[03:15] <ubotu> New bug: #122577 in ndiswrapper-modules-i386 (universe) "system freeze on resume" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122577
[03:16] <ScottK> Hi ranf
[03:16] <ScottK> bdmurray: I'd like your opinion on Bug #118963.  I think it should moved to ubuntu-doc.
[03:16] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118963 in postfix "postfix chroot environment doesn't have ca-certificates" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118963
[03:19] <ccm> what about providing a launchpad module for handling hug days?
[03:19] <ccm> or better: for handling bug hunts
[03:19] <ccm> it should just be able to be given a list of bugs
[03:19] <ccm> present them as a list
[03:19] <ccm> and when a bug is changed: mark it green
[03:19] <ccm> that would save a lot of work
[03:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122581 in exaile (universe) "exaile.py crashed with SIGSEGV in PyThreadState_New()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122581
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122583 in gnomoradio (universe) "gnomoradio crashed with SIGSEGV in Gdk::Pixbuf::copy()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122583
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122584 in netmon-applet (universe) "netmon_applet crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_widget_destroy()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122584
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122585 in bug-buddy (main) "bug-buddy crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_cast()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122585
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122586 in desktop-effects (main) "Gnome Startup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122586
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122587 in gnome-panel (main) "[gutsy]  tooltip in window list flickers if mouse is over the right most item and tooltip is too long to fit on screen" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122587
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122588 in bittorrent (main) "bittorrent crashes" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122588
[03:46] <txwikinger2> what should be done with a bug in dapper that is fixed in edgy?
[03:47] <ScottK> txwikinger2: Mark fix released.
[03:48] <txwikinger2> ScottK: Yes.. but who would think about if it should be fixed also in dapper
[03:48] <txwikinger2> #68967
[03:48] <txwikinger2> bug #68967
[03:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 68967 in util-linux "Wrong daylight saving data for CET/CEST" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/68967
[03:49] <ccm> txwikinger2: well it could be applied to backports probably
[03:50] <Hobbsee> txwikinger2: if it fits the candidates for a SRU, and someone wants to test it, then they can make a dapper task abotu it
[03:50] <Hobbsee> !sru | txwikinger2
[03:50] <ubotu> txwikinger2: Stable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates for main and restricted, while https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU is for universe and multiverse.
[03:50] <ScottK> ccm: Except how we did tzdata changed between Dapper and Edgy.
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122589 in rsync (main) "rsync requires the use of the -a option in order to copy files " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122589
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122590 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in g_slist_remove()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122590
[03:51] <ScottK> ccm: The tzdata package didn't even exist in Dapper.
[03:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122591 in Ubuntu "Intel 945 Express 1680x1050 resolution on external monitor" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122591
[03:51] <heno> ccm: we could do bug day tracking on the (extended) iso tracker site
[03:51] <heno> https://isotesting.stgraber.org/
[03:52] <ccm> ScottK: um, i see
[03:52] <ScottK> txwikinger2: Time zone updates have been put out in -updates before, so I think it'd qualify for SRU.
[03:53] <ccm> heno: interesting suggestion thoug I'd really like to see it in launchpad for the allday-ubuntu-feeling :)
[03:53] <txwikinger2> ScottK: So I should just put it on fix-released and make a comment that time zone handling has changed in edgy therefore it is unrealistic to fix it as sru?
[03:53] <ScottK> ccm: Unfortunately we are at the mercy of Launchpad devs for anything in LP.
[03:54] <ccm> ScottK: well we can give them hugs
[03:54] <ScottK> txwikinger2: Well since a different package is used for time zones in Dapper, it may actually be something that should be left open.  I don't recall the details on dapper TZ info.
[03:55] <ScottK> ccm: Sure, but with other approaches like what heno suggested, we can just do it ourselves.
[03:55] <ccm> ScottK: sure. I will just file a feature request, maybe someone loves it
[03:55] <txwikinger2> ScottK: Well if I just leave it open, I fear it will just linger around anyway
[03:56] <ScottK> txwikinger2: Can you confirm that it's a real problem and that it's got the correct package assigned?
[03:56] <Hobbsee> haha
[03:56] <txwikinger2> Hmm.. to confirm it would be quite some work
[03:57] <ScottK> txwikinger2: Yes, but if you can't confirm it, you can't confirm it.
[03:57] <txwikinger2> true
[03:57] <txwikinger2> I will make a note of it and try some time to see if I can confirm it then
[03:57] <txwikinger2> to find
[04:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122592 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 122385)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122592
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122594 in gnome-applets (main) "mixer_applet2 crashed with SIGSEGV in gtk_widget_get_toplevel()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122594
[04:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122598 in Ubuntu "screen flashing black at certian points" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122598
[04:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122599 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "Wrong memory usage displayed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122599
[04:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122600 in glchess (universe) "Closing Gnome Chess, close the session and restart Xserver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122600
[04:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122601 in gnome-terminal (main) "UI should allow easier access to editing title of terminal" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122601
[04:57] <dholbach> happy HUG DAY :-)
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122602 in gnome-panel (main) "Duplicated entries in Places Menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122602
[05:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122604 in compiz (main) "[Gutsy]  compiz wrapper wrongly thinks I'm using vesa or vga driver" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122604
[05:12] <bdmurray> happy HUG DAY dholbach
[05:12] <dholbach> hey bdmurray!
[05:12] <dendrobates> I have a question about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap2/+bug/71047.  Since this was discovered to be an upstream problem seven months ago, where would I look to see if it was sent to the upstream developers?
[05:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 71047 in openldap2 "eds crashes when auto-completing email address in a new email (with LDAP)" [Medium,New]
[05:13] <dholbach> bdmurray: we have some kick ass bug action going on already: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20070627
[05:13] <dholbach> dendrobates: if the upstream bug is not linked from launchpad, it will take you a while to search through the upstream bug tracker, I'm afraid
[05:13] <bdmurray> great!
[05:14] <dendrobates> ahhhhhh!
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122607 in yaboot (main) "ofpath failure -sata, firewire, usb - patch to fix" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122607
[05:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122608 in xfce4-mixer (main) "xfce4-mixer-plugin crashed with signal 5" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122608
[05:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122609 in totem (main) "[ gutsy ]  totem lost audio if seeking true video with mp2/3" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122609
[05:21] <khermans_> is there an advanced ubuntu help channel?
[05:21] <Hobbsee> khermans_: no
[05:23] <khermans_> i am trying to make a device attach as a block device, not as a character device
[05:23] <khermans_> no matter what, my ipod on gutsy attaches as /dev/sg0 (char)
[05:23] <khermans_> i checked udev for hints to how to set it to be a bloack device, to no avail
[05:23] <khermans_> Hobbsee, #ubuntu seems to be all n00bs these days
[05:25] <bdmurray> khermans_: have you tried the answer tracker?
[05:25] <khermans_> bdmurray, what is this?
[05:26] <bdmurray> khermans_: http://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ I believe
[05:26] <khermans_> bdmurray, thx i will check there!
[05:26] <bdmurray> khermans_: no problem
[05:26] <ccm> bdmurray: add an s, and is totally right
[05:26] <ccm> :)
[05:27] <bdmurray> ccm: http redirects but you are more correct
[05:27] <ScottK> bdmurray: Did you get a chance to look at the postfix cert bug I pinged you about earlier?
[05:27] <khermans_> bdmurray, does this apply to Gutsy releases?
[05:27] <ccm> bdmurray: just wanted to be right once :)
[05:28] <khermans_> i mean, is it fopah to ask about Gutsy in answers
[05:28] <Neolithium> No, we take all questions about Ubuntu there :)
[05:28] <ScottK> khermans_: Why are you running Gutsy?
[05:28] <ccm> Neolithium: thought about a multiple unsubscribe today, too
[05:29] <khermans_> ScottK, because i am an experienced linux user looking to learn more
[05:29] <khermans_> ScottK, i am speaking at ubuntu live, but i am not an ubuntu dev
[05:29] <ScottK> OK.  Just curious.
[05:29] <khermans_> ScottK, i did the same with the last two releases, i run amd64 and uncover some things before other people see them
[05:30] <bdmurray> ScottK: what bug was that again
[05:30] <khermans_> as soon as alpha1 comes out, i upgrade
[05:30] <ScottK> It great if people who are up for the excitement do that khermans_.
[05:30] <ScottK> bdmurray: I'd like your opinion on Bug #118963.  I think it should moved to ubuntu-doc.
[05:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118963 in postfix "postfix chroot environment doesn't have ca-certificates" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118963
[05:30] <khermans_> ScottK, not on production dude....heh
[05:31] <ScottK> khermans_: Smart move that.
[05:31] <Neolithium> If someone has a spare second, can I get a medium importance set on bug #122437 please? :)
[05:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122437 in kino "[Gutsy]  Kino freezes when starting" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122437
[05:31] <ScottK> Neolithium: looking
[05:32] <ScottK> Neolithium: Done.
[05:32] <Neolithium> Thank you ScottK :)
[05:32] <ScottK> No problem Neolithium.  When do you apply for ubuntu-qa?
[05:33] <Neolithium> I'm going to do that today when I get back.  I have some running around to do with the Wife and her parents, but will be on later this afternoon until....well, my normal LATE night.
[05:39] <elmargol> when is the next debian sync?
[05:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122611 in nautilus (main) ""create launcher" access keys inconsistency" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122611
[05:40] <ScottK> elmargol: Dunno that there will be any more for Gutsy.
[05:42] <bdmurray> ScottK: I agree that the postfix setup seems like a corner case and that documentation might resolve / prevent the issue.  However, I think the server team should be proactive about making that documentation.
[05:43] <seb128> elmargol: sync or merge?
[05:43] <ScottK> bdmurray: OK, then move it to ubuntu-doc and assign it to the server team?
[05:43] <seb128> elmargol: sync, whenever somebody opens a bug ask for it, merge when somebody does the work
[05:43] <elmargol> ah ok
[05:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122612 in sitecopy (universe) "sitecopy checks local files wrong" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122612
[05:47] <bdmurray> ScottK: that makes sense to me but I'd double check with shwarma or dendrobates
[05:48] <ScottK> bdmurray: OK.
[05:48] <bdmurray> ScottK: I believe there is even an Ubuntu Server Guide which would seem most appropriate for that
[05:49] <dendrobates> ScottK: assign it to us, we have quite a bit of doc work to do, we'll just add it to the pile.
[05:50] <ScottK> shawarma | dendrobates: Please look at Bug #118963.  I think the fix is to document what you have to do to solve the problem (corner case not worth automating) and so should be assigned to ubuntu-doc.  bdmurray suggests the server team should make the doc change.  Should I assign it to the server team then?
[05:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118963 in postfix "postfix chroot environment doesn't have ca-certificates" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118963
[05:50] <ScottK> dendrobates: OK.
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122613 in Ubuntu "CD-ROM WILL NOT UNMOUNT ON EJECTION" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122613
[05:51] <shawarma> OH, DEAR. THAT SOUNDS AWFUL!
[05:51] <coNP> !shout | ubotu
[05:51] <ubotu> ubotu: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:51] <shawarma> coNP: :)
[05:51] <coNP> :D
[05:53] <Neolithium> bug #122589 ....isn't that normal behaviour for rsync? *scratches his head*
[05:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122589 in rsync "rsync requires the use of the -a option in order to copy files " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122589
[05:54] <shawarma> ScottK: I actually think we should do that automatically.
[05:54] <ScottK> shawarma: Why?
[05:54] <ScottK> Standard Postfix TLS setup won't use it.
[05:54] <shawarma> ScottK: It's not that big a deal, and it gives us cheap security bonus points.
[05:55] <shawarma> ScottK: Hmm. True. I didn't think of that.
[05:55] <ScottK> How do you handle the case where the ca-cert package gets installed after Postfix?
[05:55] <shawarma> ScottK: Copy them from the init script. postfix would have to be restarted to make it happen, but that's ok, I think.
[05:55] <ScottK> The only use case where looking at certs for TLS makes sense is if you are using restrictive delivery policies for certain destinations.
[05:56] <ScottK> shawarma: There is already a script that does this for (IIRC) bind, but it seems kind of overkill here.
[05:57] <ScottK> I guess my point is that the only time you NEED the ca cert information is when you've had to manually configure relate stuff anyway.
[05:57] <ScottK> For probaby 99% of cases it's just more overhead.
[05:58] <ScottK> A very large fraction of opportunistic TLS between MTAs is done with roll your own certs anyway.
[05:58] <shawarma>        To use this option in chroot mode, this directory (or a copy) must be inside the chroot jail.
[05:58] <shawarma> It's already in postconf(5) man page.
[05:58] <shawarma> ScottK: I see your point.
[05:58] <ScottK> OK.  Then it's maybe just a reference to that in the Postfix setup for TLS in ubuntu-doc.
[05:59] <shawarma> I actually thought postfix did ca checking (but still not rejecting invalid certs)
[06:00] <ScottK> No that I think about it, I think the reason it doesn't is that there are some MUAs that will fail if the server asks for a cert and so it's pretty risky for general use.
[06:00] <ScottK> It's come up on postfix-users, but I don't recall the details.
[06:00] <ScottK> shawarma: Got time to look at a weird postinst bug?
[06:00] <shawarma> ScottK: Sure.
[06:00] <shawarma> Oh, dear is that the time?
[06:01] <shawarma> Oh, well. If I had a life, it'd be a problem.
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122615 in gnome-panel (main) "NTFS partition appears more than once" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122615
[06:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122617 in python2.5 (main) "python-dbg cannot import expat" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122617
[06:01] <shawarma> ScottK: What have you got?
[06:03] <ScottK> shawarma:  I've been trying to figure out this postinst problem with clamsmtp for some time.  Bug #108303.  It happens reliably on an Edgy/Feisty upgrade but no other time (I even built the Feisty version for Edgy and upgraded just that package and couldn't recreate the error).
[06:03] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 108303 in clamsmtp "subprocess post-install script rt err st 2" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/108303
[06:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122618 in kdissert (universe) "Allow 'reorder and make child' in Concept List" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122618
[06:09] <Neolithium> Ok, got a few things done from the hug day page.  I'll be back later on after this stuff :)
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122620 in seahorse (universe) "seahorse crashed with SIGSEGV in strlen()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122620
[06:14] <shawarma> ScottK: Hm... Nothing stands out... I'll see if I can reproduce and debug.
[06:14] <ScottK> shawarma: OK.  I'm stumped.
[06:15] <nxvl> is someone working on openssh bugs so i can join them?
[06:15] <shawarma> nxvl: I have been, but feel free to join in.
[06:16] <nxvl> shawarma: i'm new on this, so i need a little help
[06:17] <shawarma> nxvl: Just ask. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20070627 has a list of bugs you can look at. It's got an openssh section.
[06:18] <nxvl> shawarma: yes, i have seen it, i'm starting with #34283 cause is a bug i have had trouble with
[06:23] <nxvl> but i think its already done :S
[06:23] <shawarma> ScottK: Hm... I took a clean edgy install, enabled universe, installed clamstmp and get an error already there.
[06:24] <ScottK> Ah.
[06:24] <shawarma> ScottK: Subsequently switching sources.list to feisty and upgrading clamsmtp works fine.
[06:25] <shawarma> ScottK: Think I found it..
[06:26] <shawarma> I'll start over and try something.
[06:26] <ScottK> Cool.
[06:30] <ScottK> shawarma: When your ready, Bug #81242 is an interesting issue that I suspect is a packaging system bug.
[06:30] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 81242 in postfix "postfix-ldap is linked against gnuTLS" [Medium,Triaged]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/81242
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122621 in xubuntu-meta (main) "the default examples in xubuntu need changing" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122621
[06:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122623 in network-manager-applet (main) "nm-applet crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 122385)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122623
[06:31] <shawarma> ScottK: System bug? What do you mean?
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122624 in gnash (universe) "Visual artifacts in YouTube UI" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122624
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122625 in gnome-control-center (main) "cant start compiz from 'Appearence' configuration in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122625
[06:36] <ubotu> New bug: #122626 in myspell-da (universe) "[Remove]  Please remove the myspell-da source package from gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122626
[06:37] <ScottK> shawarma: Packaging system (dpkg-shlibs or some such) - both postfix and postfix-ldap get their TLS library from ${shlibs:Depends}, but end up linked to differnt TLS libs.  Not sure exactly how that's supposed to happen.
[06:37] <shawarma> ScottK: For some reason i missed "packaging".
[06:38] <ScottK> Ah
[06:38] <shawarma> ScottK: Did reproduced the clamsmtp bug?
[06:38] <shawarma> ScottK: Did you reproduce the clamsmtp bug?
[06:38] <ScottK> I had the clamsmtp bug when I upgraded my Edgy servers to Feisty.
[06:38] <shawarma> Because I just noticed the bug I saw was actually in clamav-base.
[06:39] <ScottK> Ah.  Well there's one of those too, so that'd be good.
[06:40] <ScottK> shawarma: Any chance you found Bug #39853?
[06:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 39853 in clamav "While installing ClamAV dpkg returns an error" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/39853
[06:40] <ScottK> That'd be a really good one to get resolved.
[06:42] <shawarma> ScottK: Looks like it.
[06:42] <ScottK> Cool.
[06:43] <ScottK> shawarma: If you comment on the bug what the change is, I'll package it and upload it.
[06:43] <shawarma> ScottK: I didn't debug that one yet. I'll do it in a minute.
[06:43] <ScottK> OK.
[06:43] <ScottK> I'll upload the clamsmtp fix too if you want.  They're both in Universe, so I can.
[06:45] <shawarma> Er.. Ok. You know I can too?
[06:45] <ScottK> shawarma: Sure, just trying to share the load.
[06:45] <shawarma> ScottK: Alright.
[06:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122627 in gnome-applets (main) "mixer_applet2 crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122627
[06:59] <shawarma> ScottK: Found the clamav-base bug.
[06:59] <ScottK> shawarma: Great.  I can't wait to see what it was.
[07:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122629 in gxine (main) "fullscreen gxine steals focus in xinerama/twinview" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122629
[07:02] <shawarma> ScottK: Uncaught failed call to 'which newaliases'
[07:02] <ScottK> Hmmm.
[07:02] <shawarma> It only happens if clamav is not in /etc/alises.
[07:02] <shawarma> Like so:
[07:03] <shawarma> if (! clamav in aliases); add it to aliases; call newaliases (this is where it dies).. else blah; endif
[07:03] <shawarma> So it's added to aliases before it dies. That's why it works second time.
[07:03] <shawarma> It also only happens if newaliases is absent.
[07:04] <shawarma> "/etc/alises"? What am I on about?
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122630 in gaim-libnotify (universe) "[Remove]  Please remove the gaim-libnotify source package from gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122630
[07:05] <shawarma> If you find a way to reproduce the clamsmtp bug (from a clean edgy install (no lamp server)), give me a shout.
[07:05] <shawarma> Interesting note:
[07:06] <shawarma> the clamsmtp postinst goes into debugging mode, if environment variable DEBUG is set.
[07:06] <shawarma> That should help..
[07:06] <ScottK> OK on clamsmtp.  OK
[07:08] <ScottK> shawarma: on the clamav-base one, I understand what you are saying and see the spot in the postinst where this all happens, but it's a bit greek to me what's going on in there.
[07:10] <ubotu> New bug: #122595 in gksu (main) "[gutsy]  gksu displays the g_thread_init memory corruption warning (dup-of: 116870)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122595
[07:11] <ScottK> I know enough to reproduce it now, so I can probably figure the rest.
[07:12] <shawarma> ScottK: Which part is unclear?
[07:13] <ScottK> I think I'm making my way through it.  The problem (if I understand correctly) is that the postinst tries to call newaliases, but there isn't one and it dies?
[07:13] <shawarma> ScottK: Almost
[07:13] <ScottK> because when I try which newaliases, I get no return.
[07:13] <ScottK> OK
[07:14] <shawarma> ScottK: It tries to find the path for newaliases by running "which newaliases". That fails, and set -e makes the entire thing bail out.
[07:15] <shawarma> ScottK: set -e makes the script bail out if a command line returns anything other than 0.
[07:15] <shawarma> ScottK: "which newalises" is silent, but returns 1.
[07:15] <shawarma> -> death
[07:16] <ScottK> OK.  Ahh.
[07:16] <ScottK> I understand that problem now.  Thanks.
[07:16] <shawarma> The author of the script seems ot assume that which always succeeds, but just gives an empty response in case the sought command is nowhere in the $PATH. He's wrong.
[07:17] <shawarma> The fix: Add "|| true" to the mix, giving " newal=`which newaliases || true` "
[07:17] <shawarma> \o/
[07:18] <shawarma> Excercise!
[07:18] <shawarma> \o>
[07:18] <ScottK> Ahh.
[07:18] <shawarma> <o/

[07:18] <shawarma> \o/
[07:18] <ScottK> Cool.
[07:18] <ScottK> Let me run with that.
[07:19] <shawarma> Alright. I think I'll call it a day. In the real world that means that I'll be taking a few hours break until I can't keep myself away from the computer anymore. :)
[07:19] <ScottK> shawarma: Do you want credit in the changelog?
[07:19] <dendrobates> shawarma: bye
[07:19] <ScottK> You certainly have earned it.
[07:20] <shawarma> ScottK: Sure. You'll never be a superstar, if you're hiding.
[07:20] <ScottK> OK
[07:20] <shawarma> :)
[07:20] <shawarma> Catch you all later.
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122632 in beryl-core (universe) "beryl crashed with SIGSEGV in nanosleep()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122632
[07:21] <shawarma> You've been monstrously helpful today! \o/
[07:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122633 in twinkle (universe) "[Gutsy]  Incorrect dependencies" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122633
[07:28] <ubotu> New bug: #122561 in beryl-core (universe) "beryl crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122561
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122634 in xubuntu-meta (main) "In Xubuntu it is hard to tell when it is safe to remove a usb device as the icon doesn't change" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122634
[07:44] <ScottK> shawarma: Confirmed on Feisty that that fixes the problem.  I'm doing a test build for Gutsy and assuming it builds, I'll upload it later today.
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122635 in totem (main) "Fails to play DVDs from  ISO files." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122635
[08:00] <ubotu> New bug: #122636 in gshutdown (universe) "Gshutdown closes gnome session but does not shutdown down" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122636
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122637 in notification-daemon (main) "notification-daemon crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122637
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122638 in evince (main) "evince crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122638
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #122639 in compizconfig-settings-manager (universe) "compiz-kde crash" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122639
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122640 in gnome-panel (main) "gnome panel does'nt work. I can't configure mouse features." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122640
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122641 in compiz (main) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122641
[08:25] <ubotu> New bug: #122642 in firefox (main) "incorrect handling  linux.com favorite" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122642
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122643 in nginx (universe) "nginx doesn't start: nginx.conf relative paths are relative to /usr/local/nginx" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122643
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #122645 in ubiquity (main) "manual partitioning hangs indefinitively" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122645
[08:36] <bdmurray> Admiral_Chicago: Did you work on bug 120873? the wiki page seems to have gotten misaligned
[08:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 120873 in kde-systemsettings ""System Settings -> Monitor & Display" does not work (dup-of: 91545)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/120873
[08:36] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 91545 in kde-guidance "MASTER [apport]  displayconfig-restore.py crashed with SIGSEGV in XRRGetScreenInfo()" [High,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/91545
[08:37] <Admiral_Chicago> yes i did. let me look
[08:38] <Admiral_Chicago> bdmurray: what do you mean, the hug day wiki?
[08:38] <dendrobates> all of my changes to the wiki seem to have been rolled back.
[08:39] <bdmurray> Admiral_Chicago: yes the hug day wiki
[08:39] <bdmurray> dendrobates: what do you mean?
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago> bdmurray: oh i see, i'll fix it
[08:39] <dendrobates> I triaged a couple bugs and put my name and changed the color.
[08:40] <dendrobates> I'll add it back.  I just had a firefox issue, perhaps they were not saved,.
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122646 in ltsp (main) "Ltsp 5 freezes sometimes when  I try to close a window!" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122646
[08:41] <bdmurray> Admiral_Chicago: I may have already fixed it
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll let you save and not create a conflict
[08:42] <dendrobates> just one had changed, probably my fault.
[08:44] <bdmurray> seb128: bug 1222327 is in french could you comment on it?
[08:45] <bdmurray> seb128: I meant bug 122327
[08:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 122327 in Ubuntu "Mauvaise frequence de rafraichissement d'ecran affiche  " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122327
[08:48] <nxvl> i have already patch bug #89945 can someone please check if the patch is correct?
[08:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 89945 in openssh "scp doesn't report correct filenames with spaces in verbose mode" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89945
[08:49] <nxvl> shawarma: can u please check is my patch is correct and upload it if it is
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #122647 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "forcedeth doesn't working" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122647
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122648 in firefox (main) "majority of bookmarks have dissappeared" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122648
[08:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122649 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "nvidia driver update needed - 100.14.11" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122649
[08:57] <bdmurray> that last one is probably a dup
[09:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122650 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122650
[09:03] <seb128> bdmurray: will reply
[09:04] <seb128> bdmurray: could you explain me the difference between Triaged and Confirmed?
[09:06] <bdmurray> seb128: The difference is your confidence level in the bug having everything it needs to be worked on
[09:07] <bdmurray> So if I am certain a bug has everything it needs and looks good I will mark it as triaged.
[09:07] <seb128> which one should be used when the bug has been sent upstream?
[09:07] <bdmurray> I would set that as Triaged as we thought it was good enough to send upstream.
[09:07] <seb128> bah
[09:08] <bdmurray> bah?
[09:08] <seb128> we have hundred of bugs which have been sent upstream and which are "Confirmed" at the moment
[09:08] <seb128> that's going to be mess
[09:08] <seb128> thousand of bugs send upstream rather
[09:09] <bdmurray> seb128: you mean setting them to triaged?
[09:09] <seb128> yes
[09:09] <bdmurray> I have some ideas . . .
[09:09] <seb128> Confirmed = I confirm it happens, not sure if the bugs has all the required details
[09:10] <seb128> Triaged = the bug has enough details to be used by a hacker
[09:10] <seb128> right?
[09:10] <bdmurray> Yes.
[09:10] <seb128> k, thanks
[09:11] <bdmurray> So a confirmed bug could upstream.
[09:11] <seb128> I'm starting to wonder if we should do what fedora does
[09:11] <bdmurray> As upstream could be the right place to fix the bug.
[09:11] <seb128> and close bugs sent upstream
[09:12] <bdmurray> I don't think they would show up in default searches then so we could have even more dups.
[09:12] <seb128> they have an UPSTREAM status IIRC, so they close bugs sent there
[09:12] <seb128> well, add yet another status ;)
[09:12] <bdmurray> heh
[09:12] <seb128> because usually I don't want bug forwarded upstream on my list
[09:13] <seb128> they are useful to look for duplicates though
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> bdmurray: iirc a while ago, you sent an email about using bughelper and -nd to list bugs by last touch date. i've been looking for it, do you know which list you mailed?
[09:14] <bdmurray> Admiral_Chicago: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Diaries/bdmurray
[09:14] <bdmurray> That is more detailed.
[09:14] <bdmurray> You'll need to change Needs Info to Incomplete now
[09:18] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks a lot
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> ah cool, let me run a bug query then and lok at the bugs.
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> win 2
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> err/
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> bdmurray: what about last comment from anyone in the team
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> actually, i'd like to do, -lc from anyone from a date
[09:24] <dendrobates> bdmurray:  #71047 is upstream, but has been open in gnome bugzilla for over 3/2005.  What do we do when upsteam is unresponsive?
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> bugnumbers --format=html -p firefox --status "Incomplete" -lc="-d:2007-05-27" should work no?
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122653 in network-manager (main) "network-manager asks about WPA key forever even after correct entry" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122653
[09:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122654 in vnc (main) "vncviewer under compiz" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122654
[09:31] <bdmurray> Admiral_Chicago: yes regarding your last comment
[09:32] <bdmurray> Admiral_Chicago: regarding team I don't bugnumbers could do that yet however depending on quantity of people in the team I do something silly like 'for i in a b c d'; do query --lc="u:$i"; done
[09:33] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm getting the error: package firefox not found with bughelper v 0.2~r183
[09:33] <Admiral_Chicago> right it is possible to do that.
[09:34] <bdmurray> teams would be a neat feature
[09:36] <bdmurray> Admiral_Chicago: try ./bugnumbers --format=html -p firefox --status "Incomplete" --lc="d:2007-05-27"
[09:37] <Admiral_Chicago> bdmurray: i'll try that query in a few
[09:37] <Admiral_Chicago> i thought it might be because i just installed bughelper but i did -gen-config or whatever that was
[09:38] <bdmurray> the --lc option was misformatted in your query earlier
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> i'll try it out in a bit, resting before the meeting
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> bdmurray: i fixed that, i found that error
[09:39] <bdmurray> bug 71047
[09:39] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 71047 in openldap2 "eds crashes when auto-completing email address in a new email (with LDAP)" [Medium,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71047
[09:39] <bdmurray> cool
[09:41] <bdmurray> dendrobates: I'd say comment in the upstream bug again but there seems to be a fairly recent comment
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122655 in compiz (main) "Mouse buttons dont work when mouse touches to the edges of the screen at any direction" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122655
[09:41] <ubotu> New bug: #122657 in quodlibet (universe) "quodlibet.py crashed with UnicodeDecodeError in load()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122657
[09:43] <bdmurray> Admiral_Chicago: I tried it with a smaller package than Firefox and it worked well
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122658 in lintian (main) "Please merge lintian (main) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122658
[09:46] <ubotu> New bug: #122659 in avahi (main) "Constantly reconfiguring network interface" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122659
[09:48] <ScottK> bdmurray: I just uploaded the fix for Bug #39853 thanks to shawarma's detective work here earlier.  Can we get him an extra big gold star on the wiki page for that?
[09:48] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 39853 in clamav "While installing ClamAV dpkg returns an error" [Medium,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/39853
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #122661 in exaile (universe) "exaile.py crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122661
[09:55] <bdmurray> ScottK: check out the gold star
[09:56] <ScottK> bdmurray: Great.
[09:57] <dendrobates> bdmurray: gold star?
[09:58] <ScottK> dendrobates: That clamav bug has been kicking my $SENSITIVE_BODY_PART for a long time.  I'm thrilled he figured it out.
[09:59] <dendrobates> :)
[09:59] <dendrobates> man, some of these old bugs take alot of digging.
[10:05] <askand> Can someone help me confirm a bug?
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122666 in Ubuntu "Bightness always appears after Idle" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122666
[10:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122667 in quodlibet (universe) "quodlibet.py crashed with SIGSEGV in PyThreadState_New()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122667
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122668 in Ubuntu "Not all files of an usb ntfs HD are visible" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122668
[10:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122669 in kdebase (main) "konqueror profiles semi-broken" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122669
[10:06] <coNP> askand: which one?
[10:06] <askand> coNP: one in ePDFviewer
[10:07] <coNP> askand: type bug # and ubotu will help us out
[10:07] <askand> I have not reported it as a bug yet..I wondered if someone could try if same thing happens on their system
[10:07] <askand> coNP :)
[10:07] <coNP> oh I see
[10:08] <coNP> let us try
[10:08] <coNP> what should I do
[10:08] <askand> install epdfview
[10:08] <coNP> done
[10:08] <askand> open a pdffile
[10:08] <coNP> done
[10:08] <askand> and scroll down with the downarrow
[10:09] <coNP> yes?
[10:09] <askand> hrm..it works?
[10:09] <askand> ok..the program shut downs for me when I do that..
[10:10] <coNP> is it supposed to work?
[10:10] <coNP> not for me
[10:10] <coNP> it either does nothing
[10:10] <askand> the page scrolls down? : o
[10:10] <Gasten> Is there an easy way to lokate what version of a lib you have installed?
[10:10] <coNP> Gasten: sure
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122670 in lazarus (universe) "Dependency is not satisfiable: libc6" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122670
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122671 in deskbar-applet (main) "Beagle deskbar does not display all files" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122671
[10:11] <coNP> Gasten: type "apt-cache show <packagename> |grep ^Version" in a terminal
[10:11] <coNP> askand: not really, but I think it is not supposed to do so
[10:12] <coNP> askand: it seems to be a legal but, do you use feisty?
[10:12] <askand> coNP: hrm what version of epdfviewer do u have?
[10:12] <Gasten> coNP: Thank you.,
[10:12] <coNP> Gasten: nw
[10:12] <coNP> np
[10:13] <askand> coNP: oh ok..then it has been updated since feisty
[10:13] <coNP> askand: you can file it if you want to, but I guess this is a typical "fix released" bug without a need for a backport
[10:13] <coNP> (since it can be very easily avoided...)
[10:14] <askand> coNP: its not easy avoiding scrolling down with downkey :P
[10:14] <coNP> I would never press that, only pgdn
[10:14] <coNP> but file it if you want to
[10:15] <coNP> by the way bug 99088 might be the same (at least the reason)
[10:15] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 99088 in epdfview "[apport]  epdfview crashed with SIGSEGV in _poppler_page_new()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/99088
[10:15] <coNP> gutsy has newever libpoppler and epdfview, so I cannot reproduce either
[10:17] <askand>  coNP: ok but maybe it is fixed in gutsy already then :)
[10:18] <coNP> I guess it is
[10:18] <askand> well thanks for helping :)
[10:19] <coNP> yw
[10:19] <coNP> bye, happy bug hugging
[10:19] <bdmurray> calc: ping
[10:21] <ubotu> New bug: #122673 in gnome-mount (main) "gnome-mount crashed with SIGSEGV in g_datalist_id_set_data_full()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122673
[10:26] <ubotu> New bug: #122674 in beagle (main) "Search.exe crashed with SIGSEGV in g_datalist_clear()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122674
[10:27] <ScottK> shawarma: The clamsmtp postinst had the IDENTICAL problem as clamav-base, so you got two with one blow.  I'll upload that shortly too.
[10:31] <ubotu> New bug: #122676 in Ubuntu "Application crash (gfx??)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122676
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #122678 in hwdb-client (main) "device database crashed (dup-of: 120603)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122678
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122679 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  amsn plugins" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122679
[10:49] <dendrobates> the status options do not make sense to me, when the importance is set to wishlist.  How is that usually handled?
[10:50] <ScottK> What do you mean?
[10:51] <dendrobates> if a bug is a actually just a functionality request, how can it be confirmed?
[10:51] <bdmurray> You would confirm that the functionality doesn't exist right?
[10:52] <ajmitch> I presume it could be something like "yes this idea is possible & not insane"
[10:52] <dendrobates> Ok, I had thought about that, but I did not want to throw off confirmed bug reporting with feature requests.
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #122680 in console-setup (main) "no way to install a custom keymap" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122680
[10:55] <dendrobates> this bug days are tiring!
[10:56] <dendrobates> as you can tell py my inablilty to speak my native tongue.
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #122682 in Ubuntu "Brightness Head-Up dialogue always appears after Idle" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122682
[11:07] <calc> bdmurray: hi
[11:07] <calc> grr network manager or something else is broken pretty severely in ubuntu gutsy amd64
[11:07] <calc> have to install 7.04 instead on my dev box
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> calc: its network manager
[11:09] <calc> oh ok
[11:09] <Admiral_Chicago> it was being discussed in -devel
[11:09] <calc> is there a simple fix?
[11:11] <ubotu> New bug: #122683 in gnash (universe) "gnash crashed with signal 5 in g_logv()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122683
[11:11] <seb128> calc: uninstall it and use static configuration?
[11:12] <calc> seb128: heh ok
[11:13] <bdmurray> just modifying /etc/network/interfaces with a static setup should be enough or it works for me at least
[11:14] <bdmurray> calc: I closed the bugs & tabs already
[11:14] <calc> bdmurray: ok
[11:16] <ubotu> New bug: #122684 in acpi-support (main) "parsing of $displaynum in /usr/share/acpi-support/power-funcs gives two matches" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122684
[11:16] <calc> oh wrt 90267 i think it restarts interfaces during upgrades as well
[11:17] <calc> it looks like that is at least indirectly already known
[11:17] <calc> bbl, can't stay on this pc, need to fix my laptop
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122688 in apport (main) "produces empty core dumps" [High,Incomplete]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122688
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #122689 in gnome-games (main) "Small error in Dutch translation in Blackjack game" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122689
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #122691 in Ubuntu "Kubuntu doesn't detect SATA hard disk (IDE: ICH5)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122691
[11:55] <ScottK> bdmurray: New clamav and clamsmtp packages uploaded to the archive before the hug day ends ...
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122697 in gnome-volume-manager (main) "gnome-volume-manager not update!" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122697
[11:56] <ubotu> New bug: #122698 in ghostscript (main) "[gutsy]  pdf2ps always gives error and bails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122698
[12:01] <ubotu> New bug: #122699 in katapult (main) "Amarok catalogue doesn't work with mysql database" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122699
[12:01] <kioshen> Hi ScottK :)
[12:02] <ScottK> Hi kioshen
[12:03] <Kioshen> I've finally finished moving out so I'll be poking you with more questions soon :p
[12:03] <ScottK> OK.
[12:05] <ubotu> New bug: #122700 in blackbox (universe) "Blackbox renders Debian submenu as whole menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/122700