[15:11] <miqui> Fuchs: k, thanks....is there an ubuntu pkg for keepassx?
[15:11] <te_> fellayaboy: It is probably due to the way it is mounted. The use has to have permissions for those files r or rw etc..
[15:11] <mobiGeek> whoever: both have lots free (idle CPU, free RAM, free swap)
[15:11] <te_> *user* not use
[15:12] <whoever> mobiGeek: how long do the computations take you, and what are the computations
[15:12] <fellayaboy> when i do chmod 777 -R /WindowsDrive i get permmission denied
[15:12] <Fuchs> miqui: yes
[15:12] <te_> fellayaboy: Is files/folders/drives on a vfat partition?
[15:12] <wheatthin> fellayaboy, is it mounted and you using root?
[15:12] <chemist^> Hello every one. I've got a question regarding the usage of the "apt-get" command. What does the -y option stand for in sudo apt-get install blabla -y?
[15:13] <te_> fellayaboy: mount
[15:13] <chemist^> (ubuntu 14.04)
[15:13] <miqui> cool...thanks Fuchs
[15:13] <mobiGeek> whoever: it is just slow.  Can't pinpoint it.  Using a perl script to grok log files takes significantly longer than it should.  I can break down into its primitives, but i was hoping there is a perf/benchmark tool that I could use instead.
[15:13] <te_> fellayaboy: (see what mount says about it)
[15:13] <imdea> holstein: I don't understand what you mean.
[15:13] <chemist^> -y  Assume Yes to all queries and do not prompt
[15:13] <chemist^> thanks anyway :P
[15:14] <fellayaboy> yeah ill use sudo rsync -avP ....and ubuntu automaticallhy mounts it.... in /media/ folder
[15:14] <holstein> imdea: if you dont like the labeling, change it..
[15:14] <Fuchs> miqui: you're welcome
[15:14] <wheatthin> fellayaboy, if it's ntfs, make sure you have ntfs-3g installed
[15:14] <fellayaboy> yeah i do have ntfs-3g
[15:14] <fellayaboy> i can access the drive
[15:14] <te_> fellayaboy: If you rsync regularly from this drive, you may look into perminately mounting it with a fstab entry.
[15:14] <wheatthin> did you write permission entry in fstab?
[15:14] <imdea> holstein: the question is, _where_ do I do that?
[15:15] <te_> fellayaboy: A fastab entry will allow you to customize mounting of the drive to suit your needs.
[15:15] <wheatthin> then remount the drive, then you'll have full permissions
[15:16] <te_> fellayaboy: There could also be a problem with the drive.  Sometimes a HD defect will cause it to only mount in certian way
[15:16] <holstein> imdea: http://rbgeek.wordpress.com/2012/05/13/change-the-network-card-name-in-ubuntu-12-04/ should stil be relevant.. though, i would ask in a server channel, or mailing list. or just use them "as-is".. the labels are just that.. labels
[15:16] <whoever> mobiGeek: seems like your ram and cpus are correct so I would suspect what your doing in the vm
[15:17] <te_> fellayaboy: What error are you getting?
[15:18] <te_> fellayaboy: (If you examine the exact wording of the error message, you'll sometimes get a clue as to what is wrong.)
[15:19] <Dlabz> hi, all.On 13.04, I need to call a php script from cli. if I cd to folder where script is in do #php script.php it works
[15:19] <holstein> !13.04
[15:19] <Dlabz> bu calling with absolut path doesnt
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: the ubuntu community cannot support EOL releases
[15:20] <fellayaboy> te it was EFS encrypted
[15:20] <te_> fellayaboy: O
[15:21] <Dlabz> ok, so... If I upgrade, will you help me? ActionParsnip, holstein ?
[15:21] <fellayaboy> Te_ i think that was the issue
[15:21] <fellayaboy> thanks te_
[15:21] <te_> NP
[15:21] <holstein> !upgrade | Dlabz
[15:21] <holstein> Dlabz: i would just fresh install, after making a copy of my data..
[15:22] <Dlabz> holstein: well, not so simple for me, as it's a remote server
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: you will need to upgrade to 13.10 then to 14.04
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: itd be easier to wipe Raring off and clean install Trusty
[15:22] <interweb> join #wget
[15:23] <interweb> oops
[15:23] <interweb> How do I can download a page + java files that are linked in that page ?
[15:24] <te_> !lts | Dlabz
[15:25] <te_> interweb: /join (you forgot the front slash)
[15:25] <interweb> te_, sorry for that :)
[15:29] <Dlabz> ok, figured it out... thanks for nothing
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: we dont dupport raring here
[15:34] <te_> Dlabz: You are welcome.  (Enjoy your upgrade experience.)
[15:34] <Dlabz> ActionParsnip: My question had nothing to do with version of the ubuntu I'm running
[15:34] <aandy> hi. i'm using cm-crypt with luks, and i have a volume unlocked (opened) - anyone know if there's a way for me to verify the passphrase without closing/re-open?
[15:35] <Dlabz> te_: I didn't upgrade... I have no idea what upgrade would do to my 2m lines code
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: but its the version you are running, which isnt supported
[15:35] <te_> Dlabz: We gave you good advise.  You may not have needed help with the issue you encountered but you received good aviise anywya.
[15:36] <te_> Dlabz: Did you understand the information about LTS?
[15:36] <igor_> Hey i have ubuntu 14.04 on mac and it keeps freezing and the loading screen is messed up
[15:36] <holstein> Dlabz: well, the upgrade would get you on a supported version of ubuntu, that is recieving upgrades, and security patches
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> igor_: what GPU(s) do you use?
[15:36] <holstein> !mac | igor_
[15:36] <igor_> gpu?
[15:36] <holstein> igor_: i ended up using reFit, though, i think there is a newer version
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> igor_: the graphical processor....
[15:36] <igor_> oh i just wiped my computer and downloaded it
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> igor_: it still has a GPU to put the image on the screen.
[15:37] <Dlabz> te_: No, I have no idea what you wanted to tell me
[15:37] <igor_> how do i check
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> igor_: does the mac have a model number?
[15:37] <igor_> oh yeah
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> igor_: what is it please? (probably on the bottom)
[15:39] <te_> Dlabz: Ok.  We assumend that you may not have known that your version of Ubuntu had reached End Of Life, (so we informed you).  LTS means long term support (5 years worth).  Most of us that run servers use LTS.  It is a good practice to use LTS.
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> te_: Xubuntu and Lubuntu 14.04 LTS is 3 years, not 5 :)
[15:40] <Dlabz> te_: I had no idea I'm supposed to point out I'm running a LTS version when asking help in here
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: you dont have to point out if its LTS or not.
[15:40] <holstein> Dlabz: giving details can be helpful..
[15:40] <te_> Dlabz: That's not what I said.
[15:40] <holstein> Dlabz: you are not using a supported version.. are you going to upgrade to a supported version?
[15:41] <chemist^> Hello everyone, i'm back. How do i install ffmpeg on Ubuntu 14.04 so, let's say Audacity, would use it to read mp4 files for example? It's not in the repos, and the PPAs mentioned on the forum don't have either.
[15:41] <te_> ActionParsnip: I did not know that Xubuntu and Lubuntu were different.  Thanks for the info.
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> te_: np
[15:41] <holstein> chemist^: i use avconv http://askubuntu.com/questions/432542/is-ffmpeg-missing-from-the-official-repositories-in-14-04
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> te_: you can get around it by installng minimal then install xfce4 or lxde packages rather than the metapackage :)
[15:41] <te_> ActionParsnip: Awesome..
[15:42] <Dlabz> holstein: I don't believe I will... It's a development machine, and I don't wanna break it
[15:42] <nicferrier> can I get dns servers from nmcli in such a way that I don't have to parse anything? I'm using "nmcli dev -t -f IPV4 dev list" which gives me the data but also the field names. anyone know?
[15:42] <holstein> Dlabz: i would argue, by running a non supported operating system, its already broken
[15:43] <te_> ActionParsnip: (... not that I understand the issue about metapackage....)
[15:43] <holstein> Dlabz: its a "good" practice to run a supported opterating system, because keeping up with security and kernel patches by one's self can be challenging
[15:43] <Dlabz> works just fine, holstein ... but thanks for a helpfull advice
[15:43] <holstein> Dlabz: sure.. but, its not suppored, or recieving security updtaes
[15:43] <holstein> updates*
[15:44] <holstein> Dlabz: this is *not* advice or opinion.. but fact
[15:44] <chemist^> holstein, ffmpeg was replaced in previous versions by avconv package.
[15:44] <chemist^> Now avconv package is in libav-tools. You need to install it.
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> nicferrier: let me have a searc
[15:44] <chemist^> holstein, this?
[15:44] <te_> Dlabz: The motivation for not breaking something is good but can be carried to extreme.
[15:44] <holstein> chemist^: thats what has met my personal needs
[15:44] <chemist^> holstein, will audacity now read mp4 files?
[15:45] <igor_> sorry i crashed its a galium
[15:45] <igor_> i think
[15:45] <igor_> galium 0.4 on NVAF
[15:45] <holstein> chemist^: i would just install what is needed, and try.. nothing about audacity or linux or ubuntu will prevent you from reading them
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> nicferrier: nmcli dev list iface eth0 | grep DNS | awk {'print $2'}
[15:46] <te_> Dlabz: I have upgraded Ubuntu systems many times online and have never had a failure. Maybe I'm just lucky, but.... one thing to consider is that if you are too afraid of breaking something, you will limit your options toward development and advancement.
[15:46] <Dlabz> te_: I see no point in risking breaking something, and loosing a week figuring out what got broken... I'll update on my terms. I'm the only person using this server, so I don't see the point in worying about security
[15:46] <holstein> Dlabz: running an EOL version of any operating system is a risk
[15:46] <igor_> ubuntu 14.04 freezing and boot ubuntu logo is dosorted on mac help?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: thats fine but dont expect any updates or community support
[15:47] <holstein> igor_: have you tried reFit? or addressing GPU drivers?
[15:47] <chemist^> holstein, i'll give it a try now
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> igor_: I asked for the model of the system
[15:47] <Dlabz> ActionParsnip: I figured that out already
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Dlabz: cool
[15:47] <igor_> action: is it the graphicd
[15:47] <chemist^> holstein, nope...still doesn't work
[15:47] <igor_> or the cpu?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> igor_: yes, what model is the system please
[15:47] <holstein> chemist^: you can try the restricted extra
[15:48] <holstein> !restriced | chemist^
[15:48] <holstein> !restricted | chemist^
[15:48] <igor_> galium 1.4 on nvaf and intel core 2 duo cpu
[15:48] <chemist^> holstein, i think i enabled that during the installation of ubuntu
[15:48] <igor_> galium 0.4*
[15:48] <Jois-studio> Ciao a tutti
[15:48] <erasec> ciao
[15:48] <holstein> chemist^: dont think.. read the link and get what is needed for the proprietary files you are trying to edit
[15:48] <vlt> Jois-studio: Ciao
[15:49] <Lsama> hi
[15:49] <chemist^> holstein, yeah your right...i typed in the terminal and it's intalling now
[15:49] <holstein> chemist^: during install, you would have been given the option for mp3 support. not mp4
[15:49] <Lsama> I have a question
[15:49] <chemist^> holstein, right
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> igor_: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[15:50] <Lsama> I have installed a full install on usb stick and forgot to make it bootable
[15:50] <chemist^> !ask | Lsama
[15:50] <holstein> Lsama: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> Lsama: boot to liveCD, or shove it in a linux OS and you can put grub on the stick
[15:50] <Lsama> holstein, does it work fo usb sticks?
[15:51] <holstein> Lsama: it works anywhere you want/need to install grub, and can
[15:51] <te_> Dlabz: We welcome you to upgrade on your own terms and in your own time, but if you upgrade to 13.10 and then to 14.04, you will probably not encounter any problems, (or not many). By all means, take your time.  What I would do is upgrade to 13.10 and then make sure it is fully updated, (sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade), make sure everythig is ok and working good, (fix what may be broken, if anything.  Then, (at your leisure), upgrade to 14.04.
[15:51] <igor_> how would i do that?
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> Lsama: why would it be different?
[15:51] <holstein> igor_: http://refit.sourceforge.net/ is what i used..
[15:51] <holstein> !nvidia | igor_
[15:52] <igor_> but i dont have the mac partition anymore only ubunut
[15:52] <igor_> ubuntu
[15:52] <holstein> igor_: i dont either.. didnt.. havent had it..
[15:52] <igor_> so what do i do
[15:52] <Lsama> holstein, I will try that. Thanks
[15:52] <igor_> im on the ubuntu right know
[15:52] <holstein> igor_: choose how you want to proceed, and go for it
[15:53] <igor_> but it keeps crashing i cant dowwnload anything
[15:53] <holstein> igor_: what i found i needed was reFit.. or, you can refer to the graphics drivers, and just try a proprietary graphics driver
[15:53] <holstein> igor_:  i understand.. mine did the same, but, apple didnt promise me linux would work on the machine, so i worked with it, troubleshooting
[15:53] <te_> Dlabz: See:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases  & https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[15:54] <holstein> igor_: i used another machine to create a reFit iso.. but, it may be simpler for you to try the GPU driver first..
[15:54] <igor_> so do i need to use bless it refit or something
[15:54] <igor_> i herad that works
[15:54] <holstein> igor_: it worked for me.. but, i dont have your hardware
[15:55] <igor_> so basically i have to get refitt onto my computer then redownload ubuntu?
[15:55] <igor_> reinstall*
[15:55] <Dlabz> te_: thanks, i get what you're saying. I had to abandon 12.04 due compatibility issue...
[15:56] <holstein> igor_: no.. only apple would be able to tell you want to definitively do.. they pay professionals to make sure OSX will run on that hardware.. you need to take that role on, and make sure linux will work
[15:56] <te_> Dlabz: What compatability issue did you encounter?
[15:56] <igor_> ok thx alot i will try thankyou
[15:56] <holstein> igor_: tring reFit *reallY* helped me, on my hardware.. i cant speak for your hardware.. though, the grahphics driver would be easier
[15:57] <nicferrier> ActionParsnip: yeah, but I wanted to do it without awk.
[15:57] <nicferrier> ActionParsnip: that's exactly what I was asking.
[15:58] <Dlabz> te_: so, seen you have time, you could have simply helped me, you know.
[15:59] <deadmund> nicferrier: Why not use awk ?   This is the sort of job awk was designed for?
[15:59] <nicferrier> deadmund: it is but it's also fragile because it has no way of knowing when the input changed format.
[15:59] <te_> Dlabz: What compatability issue did you encounter?
[16:01] <Dlabz> If I remember right, I had to update JRE and tomcat, and one of those didn't work on 12.04
[16:01] <Dlabz> If I remember right, I had to update JRE and tomcat, and one of those didn't work on 12.04, te_
[16:01] <holstein> Dlabz: 12.04 is supported, and those issues may be addressed..
[16:01] <Dlabz> holstein: ok, let me downgrade real quick :P
[16:02] <holstein> Dlabz: upgrading it whas has been suggested
[16:02] <v0lksman> hello all!  I have a system that has been crashing a lot.  I believe it's the vid drivers causing problems and I'm likely going to replace the vid card to try to fix that.  My question is around a drive attached to the system.  I have a 1T USB drive connected.  Everytime it crashes the drive refuses to mount and I need to fsck it before I can mount it.  Is this an indication that the drive might be dying?
[16:03] <gatchi> i dont understand why its so not intuitive to customize desktop environment settings
[16:03] <te_> Dlabz: I see.  But if you were ok with upgrading 12.04 to 13.04, why is it that you are so afraid to upgrade to 13.10 and then to 14.04?
[16:03] <gatchi> other than changing wallpapel
[16:03] <gatchi> or to a premade theme
[16:03] <gatchi> even windows gives you some flexibility
[16:04] <Seus> question: I'm running 13.10, and am interested in swapping out my NVIDIA gfx card for an ATI R9 280X...is there a procedure I should follow? Or is it just swap out GPUs and the OS takes care of the rest?
[16:04] <holstein> Seus: i would remove any proprietary drivers i have installed
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> nicferrier: not sure how then, awk is by far the easiest way to get what you want from nmcli
[16:05] <Dlabz> te_: ubuntu is not reccomending to update from ssh.
[16:05] <nicferrier> ActionParsnip: yeah. I'd just hoped I could ask it to just print the specific variable that I wanted without parsing. never mind.
[16:05] <deadmund> Seus: Just swap sir!  Let's see if there is good support for that card
[16:05] <te_> Dlabz: At any rate, you have been given advise, take it or leave it.  The choice is yours.
[16:06] <holstein> Dlabz: you can.. you can input the commands as you need. .you should have your server backed up regardless
[16:06] <Seus> Going to give it a go...lets see what happens
[16:06] <holstein> Seus: there are recovery kernel options.. if you have problems
[16:06] <Dlabz> te_: so, I'll do-release-upgrade. What happens if my upgrade failed? do I get support for trying, or am left alone?
[16:07] <te_> Dlabz: How did you do with the upgrade from 12.04 to 13.04?
[16:07] <holstein> Dlabz: you *should* have backupds, regardless of this upgrade.. so, plan for total failure for just safety sake, and procede as you please
[16:07] <v0lksman> further, does anyone have any good docs on installing the nvidia driver from the nvidia site in 14.04?
[16:08] <Pa^2> Cursor changes to huge in app windows, back to small on the desktop.  Any ideas why?
[16:09] <te_> v0lksman: You just need to turn off X before the install, other than that, Nvidia's instructions are sufficient.
[16:09] <Dlabz> te_: I ran the update, it crashed, i lost access to the server, had to pay $50 for reinstall of a fresh, updated OS, and started from scratch.
[16:09] <te_> v0lksman: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[16:09] <holstein> Dlabz: you may not be running ubuntu, but a vendor version of ubuntu
[16:10] <te_> Dlabz: What kind of server is it?
[16:10] <holstein> Dlabz: you should seek support from them,a nd see if they are applying patches to 13.04 for you
[16:10] <AcidRain2012> hmmm
[16:10] <AcidRain2012> how do i get chanserv into a channel?
[16:11] <dw1> AcidRain2012: try #freenode
[16:11] <Dlabz> te_, holstein so, you might now understand my hesitation about upgrade
[16:11] <AcidRain2012> dw1, thx
[16:11] <v0lksman> te_: 14.04...I've dropped to shell killed lightdm and run the Nvidia package. When I reboot I get the dreaded black screen with blinking cursor...
[16:11] <v0lksman> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-337.19.run
[16:11] <v0lksman> using that package
[16:11] <te_> Dlabz: The fact remains that you are in an EOL version.  How you solve that problem is your business.
[16:11] <v0lksman> on a GeForce GT220
[16:11] <holstein> Dlabz: not really.. i would have no hesitaion in having a complete backup, and control over them, and the restoring of them
[16:11] <te_> v0lksman: You have to do the config, (and ultimately create the xorg.conf file).
[16:12] <v0lksman> te_: I let the installer create the config...is there more than that?
[16:12] <dw1> Dlabz: some providers offer console/recovery access and re-imaging free. :/
[16:12] <Dlabz> te_, holsteincheers, guys... I have work to do
[16:12] <holstein> Dlabz: good luck!
[16:12] <te_> v0lksman: nvidia-xconfig
[16:13] <daftykins> v0lksman: why are you installing drivers manually?
[16:13] <v0lksman> te_: so run that from shell after the install is finished and before a reboot?
[16:13] <BARACKEFELLER> hello im getting error when apt-get update
[16:13] <BARACKEFELLER> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-updates/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages
[16:13] <te_> v0lksman: Do you have an xorg.conf file yet?
[16:13] <dw1> BARACKEFELLER: way out of date
[16:13] <te_> v0lksman: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:13] <daftykins> BARACKEFELLER: natty is an *ancient* dead release, it is EOL and so no longer supported - remove that entry from your sources
[16:13] <v0lksman> te_: I had one but removed it when rolling back to the Ubuntu provided driver
[16:14] <daftykins> BARACKEFELLER: what version are you running? "cat /etc/issue"
[16:14] <BARACKEFELLER> is there a way to update it
[16:14] <BARACKEFELLER> 11.04
[16:14] <te_> v0lksman: nvidia-xconfig
[16:14] <v0lksman> daftykins: because the ones provided by Ubuntu suck, and the proprietary drivers listed in the additional drivers tool also suck (tearing and I believe it's leading to X crashing)
[16:14] <BARACKEFELLER> i also have a 9.10 box with a simbilar errors
[16:14] <daftykins> BARACKEFELLER: that release is also ancient and unsupported, it would take a lot of effort, so i would recommend you just backup your data and clean install 14.04
[16:14] <daftykins> BARACKEFELLER: same situation for both then
[16:14] <te_> v0lksman: Wait, you installed the Nvidia driver from Ubuntu repo?
[16:14] <BARACKEFELLER> @_@
[16:15] <v0lksman> te_: yeah I tried xorg-edgers
[16:15] <BARACKEFELLER> why cant i udpate it
[16:15] <daftykins> v0lksman: on what ubuntu version?
[16:15] <dw1> BARACKEFELLER: 14.04 will be good for 5 years, if you dont go crazy and upgrade to 14.10 :P
[16:15] <v0lksman> currently running nvidia-331
[16:15] <v0lksman> daftykins: 14.04
[16:15] <daftykins> v0lksman: getting direct from nvidia won't change anything
[16:15] <te_> v0lksman: Maybe you need to start over and tell us what you've done, (and in the order in which you have done these things).
[16:16] <daftykins> BARACKEFELLER: because you'd have to upgrade multiple times and it'd take hours, so you're best off just clean installing.
[16:16] <daftykins> BARACKEFELLER: if you insist though, check out these links...
[16:16] <daftykins> !eol | BARACKEFELLER
[16:16] <daftykins> ^
[16:17] <v0lksman> Hrm.  Well I installed from scratch.  nouveau is default but there is tearing.  Added the xorg-edgers ppa and installed nvidia-331.  still tearing and random crashes (usually after watching vids).  installed 337 from nvidia, got the black screen, rolled back to 331 from PPA and sit with it in that state
[16:18] <daftykins> v0lksman: there is no reason to be using xorg-edgers on 14.04
[16:18] <te_> v0lksman: Bottom line is, that if you have installed Nvidia proprietary drivers from Ubuntu repositories and you want to  install from Nvidia and use Nvidia's installer, you would first need to un-install the ones you installed from Ubuntu repositories, (using the apt package manager).
[16:18] <v0lksman> by tearing I mean videos show tearing, the desktop shows tons of weird artifacts seemingly at random
[16:19] <v0lksman> daftykins: base doesn't come with any does it?
[16:19] <te_> v0lksman: Sounds like it may be a hardware issue.
[16:19] <daftykins> nvidia packages? sure it does
[16:19] <daftykins> but you have to install them
[16:19] <v0lksman> daftykins: I thought it was just nouveau...non-proprietary
[16:19] <daftykins> nope
[16:19] <daftykins> sounds like you've been led astray by a very bad guide
[16:20] <v0lksman> hrm...yeah looks like 331 is in the repo
[16:21] <v0lksman> wonder why I went back to edgers
[16:21] <daftykins> but you're going to want to ditch that repo
[16:21] <te_> v0lksman: Before making assumptions, you should look to see what you have installed, or what you do not have installed.
[16:21] <daftykins> go back to a stock config
[16:21] <v0lksman> 331.67-0ubuntu1~xedgers14.04.2
[16:21] <daftykins> !ppa-purge
[16:23] <te_> v0lksman: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list
[16:24] <v0lksman> te_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7498002/
[16:24] <v0lksman> currently purging edgers
[16:24] <BARACKEFELLER> fine i will install debian
[16:24] <BARACKEFELLER> thanks!
[16:25] <daftykins> lol distrio ragequit ^
[16:25] <daftykins> *distro
[16:25] <v0lksman> we're doing it fucking live!
[16:25] <daftykins> v0lksman: no language in here thanks, family friendly
[16:25] <v0lksman> oops...sorry..I think f* is not allowed here...
[16:25] <v0lksman> sorry
[16:25] <te_> v0lksman: So, you see the error of your ways then. Right?
[16:26] <v0lksman> te_: well I now know that edgers is not needed (not for 331 at least).  but I don't think I've solved my problem yet
[16:26] <te_> v0lksman: You should have uninstalled those packages before installing the ones you downloaded from Nvidia.
[16:27] <v0lksman> now that I have stock 331 installed should I remove those too before trying nvidia's again?
[16:27] <te_> v0lksman: Yes
[16:27] <v0lksman> ok...well I'm going to reboot and see what happens...going to try stock 331 for now
[16:27] <v0lksman> doh...didn't screen
[16:31] <v0lksman> well..at least it booted!  :)
[16:31] <knoppix> startx
[16:31] <v0lksman> will watch for my problem.
[16:31] <v0lksman> thanks for the hints te_ and daftykins
[16:32] <te_> v0lksman: I don't know what you mean by "stock 133"
[16:32] <v0lksman> 331
[16:32] <v0lksman> te_: nvidia-331
[16:32] <daftykins> v0lksman: my pleasure
[16:32] <te_> v0lksman: But as long as you do.....
[16:32] <v0lksman> instead of edgers nvidia-331
[16:33] <JeremyinNC> Can someone tell me how to prevent a system from rebooting when a user does C+A+D on the console?
[16:33] <te_> v0lksman: "edgers"?
[16:33] <v0lksman> te_: xorg-edgers ppa package
[16:33] <te_> JeremyinNC: Not sure why you would want to...
[16:34] <JeremyinNC> Because I have ~1200 Ubuntu servers that are all VMs
[16:34] <te_> JeremyinNC: by C+A+D I assume you mean Ctrl-Alt-Delete   Right?
[16:34] <deadmund> JeremyinNC: http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/20/how-to-disable-ctrl-alt-del-from-rebooting-a-linux-system/
[16:34] <JeremyinNC> And people are used to hitting CAD to get the prompt up in Windows so they do it on the blank screen on the Ubuntu boxes too
[16:34] <Beldar> JeremyinNC, Who are these people?
[16:35] <JeremyinNC> deadmund, I thnk that's pre-upstart, no inittab in 14.04
[16:35] <JeremyinNC> maybe in innitrc but can't tell what the sytax is
[16:35] <JeremyinNC> Beldar, Usually our security admin or after hours support
[16:36] <Beldar> JeremyinNC, Can you be more vague, that is BS.
[16:36] <te_> deadmund: /etc/inittab: No such file or directory
[16:37] <JeremyinNC> Beldar, I do not understand what you mean
[16:37] <JeremyinNC> ah, found it
[16:37] <JeremyinNC> /etc/init/control-alt-delete.conf
[16:37] <JeremyinNC> go figure
[16:37] <v0lksman> til
[16:39] <Beldar> JeremyinNC, You are just making broad statements that honestly mean nothing at least to me, no substance, on commenting on people is all.
[16:39] <Beldar> is the world or one person see
[16:39] <Beldar> it*
[16:40] <JeremyinNC> Beldar, Uh, it's a couple of dozen folks in our after hours support team and our security admin, but that really does not have an impact on my question.
[16:40] <vlad_starkov> JeremyinNC: learn about Ctrl + Alt + SysRq (Print screen) + REISUB
[16:41] <Beldar> !REISUB
[16:53] <BLZbubba> on ubuntu 14.04, how to I install systemctl?
[16:56] <deadmund> BLZbubba: systemctl is part of systemd I believe: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/systemd
[16:57] <wilhelm1> What is the most efficient way to install packages in apt-cache on another machine?
[16:57] <BLZbubba> wilhelm1: you could use ssh & pipes
[16:58] <deadmund> wilhelm1: Your question does not make sense.
[16:58] <RustyShackleford> i can use this live usb if I boot with bios
[16:58] <RustyShackleford> but windows is already installed with eufi
[16:58] <RustyShackleford> any clue how I can get this to boot in eufi mode?
[16:58] <BLZbubba> deadmund: it is worse than that - it appears that systemctl is simply gone from the 14.04 repos
[16:59] <BLZbubba> i.e. canonical decided not to include it
[16:59] <te_> !eufi | RustyShackleford
[16:59] <deadmund> RustyShackleford: Is this helpful?
[16:59] <te_> !uefi | RustyShackleford
[17:00] <BLZbubba> i can't believe i have to rebuild the systemd package just to get systemctl
[17:00] <RustyShackleford> uh, not really
[17:00] <wilhelm1> What is the most efficient way, efficient meaning the least downloading and extra steps and code,  to install packages in apt-cache on another machine? The concern is with apt-get being used primarily for Internet transfers satisfying dependencies so if the files are copied and dpkg is used to install them doing dpkg -i on each individual packageg causes more work.
[17:00] <trism> BLZbubba: what do you need systemctl for when we aren't using systemd? (just curious)
[17:01] <deadmund> BLZbubba: systemctl is part of systemd, a lot of people are upset that systemd is not modular enough.  It's a hugh point of contention
[17:01] <RustyShackleford> i can't get the liveusb to boot when my laptop uses eufi mode
[17:01] <BLZbubba> deadmund: well the worst piece of sh!t init system ever made is upstart, so it is an improvement
[17:02] <BLZbubba> trism: sshd on 14.04 has a systemd init file
[17:02] <trism> BLZbubba: yes but we do not use it
[17:02] <trism> BLZbubba: /etc/init/ssh.conf
[17:02] <BLZbubba> i thought ubuntu was switching to systemd finally
[17:02] <te_> RustyShackleford: Check bios settings, its different for different macines.  Sometimes you hit F10 for boot menu,....
[17:02] <trism> BLZbubba: you can use systemd in 14.10 but it isn't default yet
[17:02] <RustyShackleford> te_, yeah I know that part. I can get it to boot in BIOS mode
[17:03] <te_> RustyShackleford: So what is the problem?
[17:03] <RustyShackleford> but if I select boot from usb under UEFI, it chokes
[17:03] <BLZbubba> ok well those idiots just put upstart into 10.04 without any warning, they should have done the same with 14.04 and systemd
[17:03] <RustyShackleford> and windows boots instead
[17:03] <deadmund> wilhelm1: This may be helpful : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=564301
[17:03] <te_> RustyShackleford: You might try legacy boot
[17:03] <te_> RustyShackleford: Or just install to the HD
[17:03] <BLZbubba> oh i see, openssh has both a systemd and an upstart file
[17:04] <wilhelm1> Is there a quick way to use apt-get to install them locally?  But then I'll have to reinstall windows
[17:04] <gatchi> like i know gnome has "themes"
[17:04] <RustyShackleford> i need my netflix
[17:04] <BLZbubba> gatchi: you mean besides the window manager
[17:04] <trism> BLZbubba: we use parts of systemd like logind
[17:04] <BLZbubba> ?
[17:05] <gatchi> BLZbubba, uhhhh
[17:05] <deadmund> BLZbubba: Have you tried using apt-file search "systemctl" to find what (if any) package provides that file?
[17:05] <BLZbubba> deadmund: yes, it is not there
[17:06] <gatchi> BLZbubba, wait is gnome a window manager
[17:06] <gatchi> or something else
[17:06] <BLZbubba> gatchi: this gets confusing, sorry in advance
[17:06] <Roxana18>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.ly/1gPNuyO
[17:06] <gatchi> xD
[17:06] <deadmund> gatchi: gnome incorporates a window manager called "metacity" gnome is a "Desktop Environment"
[17:06] <gatchi> ohhhhhhhhhhh
[17:07] <BLZbubba> gnome is just a set of gui development libraries really, there is a dedicated program called a window manager to do the window borders & such
[17:07] <deadmund> gatchi: :)
[17:07] <BLZbubba> and there are a zillion to choose from
[17:07] <gatchi> ok
[17:07] <gatchi> so
[17:07] <Beldar> gatchi, gnome is to vague, depends on the desktop, or how you set it up yourself.
[17:07] <gatchi> im using gnome with openbox
[17:07] <gatchi> so openbox is the wm
[17:07] <deadmund> gatchi: ok
[17:07] <deadmund> gatchi: yeah
[17:07] <gatchi> hmm
[17:07] <gatchi> so heres the weird thing
[17:07] <BLZbubba> trism: so is it a bug that systemctl is missing, or intentionally left out?
[17:08] <gatchi> i have a control panel for openbox
[17:08] <gatchi> but it seems to only control some of the elements....
[17:08] <gatchi> like, with the theme i have now,
[17:08] <BLZbubba> if you're going to systemd, it is probably a bad idea to make it difficult to get used to it.... I was trying to use it by default wherever possible
[17:08] <Beldar> gatchi, Try to keep your posts consolidated, don't use enter as punctuation.
[17:09] <deadmund> BLZbubba: If you have opinions about ubuntu, go to ubuntu-chat if you need tech support, ask questions here
[17:09] <gatchi> oh, ok
[17:09] <trism> BLZbubba: it is not included because we don't have the systemd binary, it is disabled since we still use upstart in 14.04, in 14.10 it is reenabled
[17:09] <trism> BLZbubba: but not installed by default yet
[17:09] <Beldar> gatchi, Cool, just makes it more difficult to keep the info together is all. ;)
[17:10] <GrandMaster> HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA - http://bit.ly/1pd993r. Not a chance!!
[17:10] <GrandMaster> Is Mint based on Ubuntu?
[17:10] <nnjpp> yes
[17:10] <Beldar> GrandMaster, Has been there is s debian based version, none supported here.
[17:10] <BLZbubba> ok thanks.  this is painful but whatever it takes to get rid of upstart is worth doing.  my 8.04 servers are just about end of lifed, and there is no way i will run 10.04, 12.04, or 14.04
[17:10] <gatchi> So for example the theme i have now makes some context windows grey with a darker grey highlight, but the start menu, and other application menus look like the default metacity theme
[17:10] <GrandMaster> Debian based mint?
[17:11] <gatchi> Its not possible both are running at the same time, is it?
[17:11] <Beldar> GrandMaster, Honestly ask them.
[17:11] <Beldar> !mint
[17:11] <wilhelm1> This http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=564301 is exactly what my question specified against, that is downloading a bunch of packages adding code and steps.
[17:12] <GrandMaster> I hope Linux renders Windows obsolete one day. Have a good evening folks!
[17:12] <rahuL__> citrix
[17:12] <RustyShackleford> GrandMaster, keep hoping
[17:12] <GrandMaster> RustyShackleford: Or keep spreading the word:)
[17:12] <GrandMaster> Ha ha bye! :)
[17:13] <te_> GrandMaster: Won't happen ;0
[17:13] <wilhelm1> Is there a quick way to use apt-get to install them from local files? Does specifying the path in the url of apt config work?
[17:13] <Beldar> wilhelm1, what is this install in the local files? apt-get calls the repos
[17:14] <RustyShackleford> well these workarouunds are disapointing
[17:14] <RustyShackleford> One is to install ubuntu in BIOS mode, then convert the install to UEFI later
[17:15] <te_> wilhelm1: dpkg
[17:15] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: workaround to what?
[17:15] <Beldar> wilhelm1, I see from your link what you basically mean, I missed that.
[17:15] <RustyShackleford> daftykins, i can't get my laptop to boot this liveusb in UEFI mode
[17:15] <TJ-> wilhelm1: see apt-offline http://www.debian-administration.org/article/648/Offline_Package_Management_for_APT
[17:15] <RustyShackleford> it does however, boot if I turn on legacy mode
[17:15] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: is there a reason you feel compelled to use an EFI install?
[17:15] <holstein> RustyShackleford: let the manufacturer know you are having an issue with the way they have left it configured for you
[17:16] <RustyShackleford> yep, windows is already installed and configured
[17:16] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: did you make the drive with unetbootin?
[17:16] <RustyShackleford> daftykins, no, dd
[17:16] <te_> RustyShackleford: What is the dissapointing part?
[17:16] <RustyShackleford> te_, it doesn't just work automagically
[17:16] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: cool, does your system's setup not list boot devices on either the boot or exit page?
[17:16] <DrDuck> Hello. I'd like to setup my Ubuntu so that I can simply type scala and be prompted by the interpreter. Is this the proper thing to add to my .bashrc? http://pastebin.com/VgYvZN3z
[17:17] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: for the separate entries of the flash drive as legacy and EFI mode
[17:17] <RustyShackleford> daftykins, it lists boot from usb. For example, I can boot a windows usb installer
[17:17] <Beldar> RustyShackleford, Besides the UEFI wiki, I like this for info on this. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[17:17] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: right but usually there are two entries for each device when a system is EFI capable
[17:17] <RustyShackleford> when I try to boot the ubuntu live usb, it chokes and then boots from hard disk instead
[17:18] <TJ-> RustyShackleford: Is the USB ISO image 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[17:18] <daftykins> RustyShackleford: please forgive the idea, but you did dd to the root device and not a partition?
[17:18] <Peekay> Be sure to have the right bios configuration to boot via the usd driver
[17:18] <te_> RustyShackleford: For automatical ubuntu see: http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en/
[17:19] <RustyShackleford> woah thats a cool site te_
[17:20] <[S^K]> Hello, I have a python application that uses urllib2 to retreive a HTTP response from a remote server URI. If I use curl on the URI the response is quick as expected. However, urllib from my python script hangs for 60 seconds before completing. The script does not hang on my ubuntu development machine. What configurations could be causing this to happen?
[17:20] <te_> RustyShackleford: The best advise I can give is just wipe the HD and istall with Ubuntu and be done with it.
[17:21] <RustyShackleford> yeah that is looking like the easiest thing unfortunately
[17:21] <te_> RustyShackleford: (It's what Iwould do.
[17:21] <Beldar> te_, That your opinion, keep it to yourself here.
[17:21] <TJ-> [S^K]: probably DNS resolution is failing
[17:21] <te_> Beldar: Why?
[17:22] <RustyShackleford> te_, don't worry, *I* appreciate your opinion!
[17:22] <Beldar> te_, Really, that is beyond your comprehension?
[17:22] <rapitivo> Hi. I'm trying to save my iptables rules. Sounds very simple to me but, it doesn't work. I'm using Ubuntu Server 12.10 and 13.04, neither one works. I need some help on that
[17:22] <te_> Beldar: Just offered the easiest solution.  Not sure what the problem is.
[17:22] <Beldar> worded as an opinion is different than how you posted te_
[17:23] <Beldar> eg In my opinion..............
[17:23] <te_> Beldar: Advise is given as is.  It is always a take-it-or-leave it option.
[17:24] <Beldar> te_, sorry not here this is support, not your opinions without wording as such, this is basic communication.
[17:24] <te_> Beldar: Advise - to give an opinion or suggestion
[17:25] <te_> Beldar: Thank you for your constructive criticism.  I will take your advise.
[17:26] <TJ-> RustyShackleford: Does the system have an AMI Patio firmware? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting#Live_CD_is_not_a_Boot_Option
[17:26] <RustyShackleford> nope I don't think so
[17:26] <TJ-> s/Patio/Aptio/
[17:26] <RustyShackleford> Intel hardware
[17:27] <te_> rapitivo: Just load them into a script that will run as needed.
[17:27] <On> hi
[17:27] <[S^K]> TJ-: Why would this only occur for an executable and not for curl / wget? Also the response does return eventually but it just takes a long time
[17:28] <te_> rapitivo: You can do it manually, or use ufw
[17:28] <Guest37482> does anyone tell me ..how can i add $HOME/npm/bin to $PATH??
[17:28] <rapitivo> te_: I'd like to load them on startup.
[17:29] <te_> rapitivo: Correct, a startup script.
[17:29] <TJ-> [S^K]: You'd need to profile the Python application to identify where it is stalling
[17:29] <SCHAAP137> Guest37482: export PATH=$PATH:$HOME/npm/bin should do the trick
[17:29] <Guest37482> SCHAAP137:thinks.
[17:29] <dam_> hi
[17:29] <rahul___> citrix, d
[17:30] <SCHAAP137> Guest37482: yq
[17:30] <SCHAAP137> *yw
[17:30] <rapitivo> te_: I was thinking that way would be not "right". I'm gonna try. Thanks
[17:31] <[S^K]> TJ-: I have already profiled it, it stalls on the urllib2 request
[17:31] <te_> rapitivo: Startup scripts are kept in /etc/init.d/ see man update-rc.d
[17:32] <te_> rapitivo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[17:32] <TJ-> [S^K]: Then I'd profile urllib2, and I'd monitor the network connections with tcpdump to check timings of the packets
[17:32] <rapitivo> te_: Tks
[17:32] <Beldar> rapitivo, 12.10 is eol.
[17:32] <te_> rapitivo: NP
[17:34] <te_> rapitivo: Beldar has a good point.  Your version of Ubuntu is EOL.  You should upgrade
[17:34] <te_> !eol | rapitivo
[17:34] <rapitivo> Beldar: I'm gonna update. I'm finishing to set up the second server. Thank I can reboot the old one. :)
[17:34] <cederfjard> I've had something weird happen a few times when torrenting - client hangs, internet connection drops, can't do anything as root (e.g. sudo hangs) and computer hangs on shutdown. Ubuntu 13 and 14, both with Transmission and Deluge. Anyone familiar with this issue?
[17:34] <fabio_> i am using 10.04 and i want to update to 14.04, how o do this
[17:35] <Beldar> rapitivo, Both the releases you mention are eol actually, Yeah upgrading is needed for support here is all.
[17:35] <holstein> !upgrade
[17:35] <te_> cederfjard: WiFi or hard-wired?
[17:35] <cederfjard> te_: WiFi
[17:35] <te_> cederfjard: Try hard-wire
[17:35] <holstein> fabio_: i would fresh install
[17:35] <wilhelm1> Does cyagnus need hardware layer support?
[17:36] <Beldar> !eol | fabio_, look for the upgrade info.
[17:36] <Beldar> fabio_, THere are eol releases between those releases.
[17:36] <wilhelm1> If dpkg is like the 'brain' of the project what is the goal?
[17:36] <cederfjard> te_: I'll have to do some drilling in that case, so I'll leave that as final option :)
[17:36] <te_> fabio_: You weren't offered 12.04 some time ago?
[17:37] <cederfjard> te_: It's a known issue with WiFi then?
[17:37] <TJ-> [S^K]: Maybe the server has IPv6 configured and is trying it first?
[17:37] <te_> cederfjard: Well sure it is.
[17:38] <cederfjard> te_: Sounds like I should've googled better... Thanks for the nudge in the right direction.
[17:38] <te_> fabio_: tail -1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[17:38] <te_> cederfjard: iwconfig  will show you signal strength (or signal to noise).
[17:39] <igor_> hey
[17:39] <igor_> my ubuntu is completely zoomed in
[17:39] <te_> cederfjard: If your signal to noise ratio is out of wack, you will have intermitten problems.
[17:39] <cederfjard> te_: Alright, makes sense.
[17:39] <te_> *intermittent*
[17:40] <te_> cederfjard: WiFi is never as stable / reliable as wired connection.
[17:40] <cederfjard> te_: Sure.
[17:41] <FreeMac> i was wondering about something: when you are on a page that use infinite scrolling, such as Flickr or Google image search, and you have to restart the browser for whatever reason and you have the browser set to start where you left (session restore), how do you get back to the place you were in the list of pictures?
[17:41] <te_> FreeMac: I dono, maybe Alt-LeftArrow?
[17:41] <igor_> hello, my whole screen is zoomed in and everything is bigger but still fits to screen
[17:42] <cederfjard> te_: The thing that's given me a moments pause is that I've found people who's wifi has hung when torrenting, but never seen them mention any of the other side effects, like that I can't reconnect or do anything "sudo" after this has happened.
[17:42] <SchrodingersScat> if it has to reload the js/etc. then it might not
[17:42] <te_> FreeMac: Oh, you restart the browser? Well, you would have to search through cache I guess.  Right?
[17:43] <Beldar> igor_, This a resolution issue, has it been this way always?
[17:43] <wilhelm1> What is the goal?
[17:44] <te_> cederfjard: Your situation may be different, I dont know. I only guessed that it might be an issue with radio(s).
[17:44] <igor_> no i just did something with my nvidia to get it to work propally and it became like this
[17:45] <cederfjard> te_: Thanks for help man, I'll figure it out
[17:45] <Beldar> igor_, Thanks, be sure to give a cause and effect here is all, nvidia is not an area I have messed with.
[17:45] <te_> cederfjard: (may or may *not* be RF related)
[17:45] <igor_> no after i rebooted it and its zoomed in how do i change resolution
[17:46] <holstein> igor_: is it zoomed? or is it just set at the incorrect resolution? if you installed the nvidia driver, there is an nvidia config tool.. try setting the resolution, and saving the xorg.conf
[17:46] <te_> igor_: What is zoomed?
[17:46] <wilhelm1> no goal?
[17:46] <wilhelm1> ok, signing off now
[17:46] <igor_> as everything is bigger the apps but still fits the screen
[17:46] <te_> igor_: Are you looking at a website or something in the Internet Browser, like maybe firefox?
[17:47] <Beldar> !who > wilhelm1
[17:47] <igor_> nope the actual everything
[17:47] <te_> igor_: xrandr
[17:47] <igor_> what do u mean xrandr?
[17:47] <te_> igor_: (see what screensize resolution you are using)
[17:48] <igor_> 640 x 480
[17:48] <HelloWorld321> I'm trying to create a grub2 menu loopback entry, so I have to figure out the drive/partition of an ISO file.  I typed: "mount|grep ^'/dev'" and got "/dev/sda6 on /home type ext4 (rw)", so I think my grub2 menu entry shuold include "loopback loop (hd0,6)$isofile".  Is that right: sda6, (A)(6) implies partition 6 on harddrive 0: "(hd0,6)"?
[17:48] <[S^K]> TJ-: How could I check if IPv6 is configured? I certainly did not configure it but I guess it could be
[17:48] <te_> igor_: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf   (Does the file exist?)
[17:49] <dw1> [S^K]: in ifconfig you might see an ipv6 address applied to interface
[17:49] <igor_> no such file in the directory
[17:50] <holstein> igor_: the nvidia tool that i reference will create one for you, that you can save
[17:50] <holstein> !nvidia
[17:50] <igor_> i dont see any
[17:50] <holstein> igor_: any what?
[17:50] <igor_> referenc
[17:51] <holstein> igor_: i refernced the nvidia config tool that the nvidia driver installed for you
[17:51] <holstein> igor_: its in the menu, on my system, after installing the proprietary driver. that is where i created the xorg.conf i use
[17:51] <igor_> so what do i do know
[17:52] <holstein> igor_: now? you look for the invidia config tool that will allow you (potentially) to use the resolution you are trying to use
[17:52] <te_> igor_: grep Driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[17:53] <te_> holstein: Does he have nvidia driver installed?
[17:53] <holstein> 13:44 < igor_> no i just did something with my nvidia to get it to work propally and it became like this
[17:53] <Seus> I got the ATI card installed and the latest proprietary drivers from ATI installed and working
[17:53] <igor_> te: i did what u said know what do i do
[17:53] <holstein> te_: if you would like clarification, i would as well
[17:54] <[S^K]> dw1: Does inet6 mean its using ipv6?
[17:54] <heresjohnny123> yes
[17:55] <te_> igor_: lspci |grep -i vga  #What video card do you have?
[17:55] <igor_> nvidia intel 2 duo
[17:56] <te_> igor_: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/nvidia*list  #What Nvidia package(s) do you have installed?
[17:56] <igor_> bumblebee i think
[17:56] <Jonii> Hello. I need quite a bit of help with video streaming
[17:56] <Jonii> Basically, I've figured out that avconv seems to work, but i have like gazillion questions about parameters, several bugs or problems etc
[17:56] <te_> igor_: You may just need to run nvidia-xconfig
[17:57] <holstein> ^ thats the gui that i was referencing
[17:58] <Jonii> One of these is, one of the parameters is by default 0.0, which man page tells is display.screen format. I tried to change that to make one of my desktops the screen i stream
[17:58] <igor_> how do i run it te
[17:58] <Jonii> It did not work. I don't understand why. I figure I have misunderstood something, but basically, is there a way to change that parameter 0.0?
[17:58] <te_> igor_: sudo
[17:58] <te_> igor_: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:58] <Jonii> (Also, feel free to direct me to a channel/place where these questions are more appropriate. This is the only place I can think of)
[17:59] <igor_> te command not found
[17:59] <Jonii> Next, my streaming seems to run into trouble because my audio sample rate is too high or low or something, and as a result the video file will rush through itself, so that 5 minute long media file plays in less than 30s
[17:59] <te_> igor_:  cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[18:00] <Jonii> Any ideas or help?
[18:00] <holstein> igor_: did you install the nvidia driver? or just add a PPA for bumblebee? if you dont need bumblebee, you shouldnt use it
[18:00] <subterfugium> I'm trying to stream my desktop by using this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1767488 . ffpmeg works now fine but it cannot find the desktop device /dev/video0 ... Any hints how to figure out /dev/ path for desktop or is there any?
[18:00] <Beldar> Jonii, Ubuntu? You mention other places is all.
[18:00] <igor_> no such file in directory
[18:01] <holstein> igor_: right.. so, do you have the driver installed?
[18:01] <holstein> igor_: what did you install? and how?
[18:01] <Jonii> Beldar: I don't understand the question
[18:01] <igor_> how do i check
[18:01] <te_> igor_: Install ubuntu and come  back and we will help you.
[18:01] <Beldar> Jonii, Is this issue on a ubuntu release, and if so what release?
[18:01] <holstein> igor_: look and tell me what you did
[18:01] <igor_> ubuntu is insalled
[18:02] <igor_> i am on it right know
[18:02] <holstein> igor_: what did you do? what commands did you run? from where? what have you done?
[18:02] <HelloWorld321> bbl
[18:02] <te_> igor_: lsb_release -a | pastebinit #Send us URL
[18:02] <igor_> i purge bumble bee and nvidia
[18:03] <holstein> igor_: so, you need to revert whatever bumblebee sources you added, and install the stock ubuntu nvidia driver.. that will give you the config that is suggested, that i referenced
[18:04] <Jonii> Beldar: 14.04. It's not really version specific issue, more about, "How do I stream on Ubuntu". The only version specific problem is that ffmpeg is not in 14.04 libraries, so I had to use libav instead
[18:05] <Jonii> I don't know if I should be trying to get ffmpeg instead... I figured that it's better to try to use default libraries and all that
[18:05] <Beldar> Jonii, Thanks, it was just hard to teel if you were using ubuntu, that is al that is supported here, just wanted to make sure you were in the right place; you seemed unsure is all. ;)
[18:06] <te_> Jonii: ffmpeg is not a library
[18:06] <Jonii> te_: see, i didn't know that
[18:06] <Beldar> tell*
[18:06] <subterfugium> I compiled ffmpeg for ubuntu 14.04 yesterday, works fine
[18:06] <subterfugium> https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/CompilationGuide/Ubuntu
[18:06] <Jonii> I'm just trying to browse through different scripts and trying to read through their 1000 page long man pages :/
[18:06] <te_> !ffmpeg | Jonii
[18:06] <te_> !info ffmpeg | Jonii
[18:07] <te_> Jonii: What version of Ubuntu do you have?
[18:07] <Jonii> 14.4
[18:08] <te_> I am suprised that ffmpeg has been dropped.
[18:08] <Jonii> That's the reaction many people seemed to have in comments to scripts I read of
[18:08] <holstein> i havent had any trouble, or need to go out of repo yet
[18:08] <Jonii> But anyhow, since avconv seems to mostly work, I don't know if I should change from it
[18:08] <te_> Jonii: (I never upgrade my LTS untill after the first point release)
[18:08] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/432542/is-ffmpeg-missing-from-the-official-repositories-in-14-04
[18:09] <Progster> just installed ubuntu, and put in admin as sudoers, and somehow that blew out my previous sudoers, which means my account is no longer a sudoer. Is there a way I can reover?
[18:09] <te_> Jonii: Maybe that ffmpeg will come to 14.04 later... (after or at the first point release).
[18:09] <Jonii> The problem I'm having might have something to do with audio sample rate or something. Basically, resulting video file runs too fast.
[18:09] <holstein> Progster: recovery console
[18:09] <Progster> k
[18:10] <Jonii> te_: all sources seem to indicate it's not coming back, since libav succeeded it
[18:10] <vik1231> i am using ubuntu 12.04 , once i login i get back login screen again :(
[18:10] <te_> Jonii: Oh I see.
[18:10] <holstein> vik1231: not following.. if you are looping back to the login screen, try another user, and you'll know if the issue is on your users' config
[18:11] <te_> vik1231: again?
[18:11] <te_> vik1231: You are in console mode?
[18:12] <te_> vik1231: tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:12] <vik1231> holstein: even with guest i get the same problem
[18:12] <te_> vik1231: tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log |pastebinit
[18:12] <vik1231> te_: yeah in console mode
[18:12] <vik1231> k will do
[18:13] <TheSov> I have an ubuntu server with a new xeon core, how would I install the appropriate version of openssl that will utilize the on die AES encryption?
[18:13] <holstein> vik1231: then, its not an issue with the user config, likely.. have you tried booting an older kernel? have you tried a live CD to see that the hardware is "ok"? have you tried forcing the vesa driver? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 ?
[18:13] <te_> vik1231: Can you describe any events that may have led to this issue?
[18:13] <vik1231> te_: actually its my friends system , i dont know what he did with it
[18:14] <te_> vik1231: Anything in the log file that gives a clue?
[18:14] <holstein> vik1231: on my "friends" system, i would just backup, and reinstall.. could be anything,a nd for me, thats the shortest path to a fix
[18:14] <Jonii> command avconv man page has 6300 lines in it :(
[18:14] <te_> vik1231: cat /etc/issue  #What does that say?
[18:15] <te_> vik1231: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:17] <te_> Jonii: ffmpeg's man file as 0 lines
[18:17] <te_> Jonii: How about vlc
[18:17] <te_> ?
[18:18] <l3rg> vik1231: it is just booting to a black screen, or are you putting in the user/pass and it loops or hangs on a black screen?
[18:18] <Jonii> Basically, I'm using this script to stream a game I play to twitch:
[18:18] <Jonii> https://gist.github.com/brodul/3178130
[18:18] <Jonii> @ te_
[18:19] <TheSov> is there a openssl package that enables the intel AES instruction set?
[18:19] <te_> Jonii: http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch04.html
[18:19] <Jonii> And there are problems with that stream. It works almost completely, but I need to understand that script better to fix the problems in it :p
[18:19] <vik1231> l3rg: i type the password and it gets back to login screen
[18:19] <holstein> vik1231: with the older kernel?
[18:19] <holstein> vik1231: how about with vesa driver?
[18:19] <vik1231> te_: i am in commadline how do i pastebin it
[18:19] <Jonii> Which is the reason I'm struggling to read 6300 lines of man files
[18:19] <holstein> !paste
[18:19] <te_> vik1231: pastebinit
[18:20] <l3rg> okay, just one sec i had that problem and found the answer before.. done reinstall
[18:20] <te_> !pastebinit | vik1231
[18:20] <l3rg> don't i mean
[18:21] <te_> vik1231: For example:
[18:21] <Jonii> te_: the problems I'm having probably wouldn't be solved my swap. It seems that there's something wrong with my capture audio sample rate, I think. I would also like to tweak where and how the script captures the video it streams
[18:21] <te_> vik1231: tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit
[18:22] <te_> Jonii: Maybe problem with video card module.
[18:22] <te_> Jonii: How did we get on the subject of swap?
[18:23] <captainchris> hi everybody
[18:23] <captainchris> anyone can help with CURL please
[18:23] <l3rg> vik1231: info about login loop here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop, the one with the check mark
[18:23] <Beldar> !ask | captainchris
[18:24] <captainchris> when i use curl on command line it work but when i wrote a code, it doesn't work
[18:24] <captainchris> http://pastebin.com/NbBiZGQf
[18:24] <vik1231> l3rg: yeah i tried those , still same problem
[18:24] <te_> vik1231: ls -l .Xauthority
[18:26] <te_> vik1231: df
[18:27] <Jonii> swap as in change, te_
[18:27] <te_> O
[18:28] <trism> TheSov: from what I am reading it seems that aes-ni should just work automatically in >=1.0.1, there are some tests to compare speeds a few posts down here you might try: http://openssl.6102.n7.nabble.com/having-a-lot-of-troubles-trying-to-get-AES-NI-working-td44285.html
[18:29] <te_> vik1231: Without more specific information we can't give you any more specific advise.
[18:30] <vik1231> te_: my friend is on chat using his computer , so its taking time :(
[18:31] <Progster> is there a way, besides reinstalling, to reset all users and groups to default?
[18:32] <Jonii> What is Display.screen number of my X11 server?
[18:32] <te_> vik1231: Oh, I see.  Well, you could speed things up a bit:  Tell him to do:  sudo apt-get install irssi  #Join this channel.
[18:33] <wols_> Jonii: run "env | grep DISPLAY" in a xterm. you will see a number like 0:0 at the end. this is
[18:33] <te_> vik1231: He can use another tty to pastebinit
[18:33] <wols_> Progster: no
[18:34] <te_> vik1231: Alt-RightArrow  and then Alt-LeftArrow to come back here
[18:35] <Jordan_U> wols_: Why not simply "echo $DISPLAY"?
[18:35] <Seveas> Progster: what do you mean with 'reset to default'? Just removing all their files should do that.
[18:35] <vik1231> te_: oh it seems he is using data-card to connect to internet , and he cant setup data card in ubuntu without getting into unity . So , i will get back to u once he gets access to LAN
[18:36] <vik1231> te_: sorry for that
[18:36] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all
[18:36] <lotuspsychje> welcome JokesOnYou77
[18:38] <JokesOnYou77> I'm setting up a multi-user system and I'm trying to set up git.  If I git config --global user.emal foo@bar will that effect any other user on the system?  Then I can let everyone else do it for themselves on their own accounts?    Well, just tell him to look at the log, tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log  And look to see who owns .Xauthority (ls -l .Xauthority)  And tell him to look at the output of df for the higest % Use collumn
[18:39] <Jonii> wols_: okay, I think I understand. It's :0.0 right?
[18:39] <Jonii> And if I had HDMI cable to connect my TV, that TV would be :0.1, right?
[18:40] <vik1231> te_: will do and tell u
[18:40] <te_> vik1231: If he as a full partition, that could be the problem.
[18:43] <yvnu> im trying to re-install grub after installing windows 8, i get an error: failed to get canonical path of /cow any help ?
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> yvnu: did you try a sudo update-grub ?
[18:44] <yvnu> yes also same error
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> yvnu: is this an uefi machine?
[18:46] <yvnu> yes
[18:46] <alami> hello, can i restor my ubuntu 14.04 to some days ago, i have networking issue, and i can't stop networking restart does not help
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | yvnu maybe this can help?
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> alami: whats your issue exactly with network?
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> alami: cable? wifi? updated recently?
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> !restoregrub | yvnu
[18:48] <wols_> Jonii: only if the hdmi would be the 2nd monitor
[18:48] <alami> lotuspsychje: i want to install inssider and was not succsefful and now i don't have networking
[18:49] <alami> lotuspsychje the inferfaces are shut down
[18:49] <Beldar> yvnu, If you use the bootrepair from that link save the url to the bootinfo summary.
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> alami: whats inssider?
[18:49] <alami> lotuspsychje: service networking stop show can't stop networking
[18:49] <yvnu> Ok
[18:49] <RustyShackleford> I'm about to give up and just use legacy boot instead of UEFI
[18:49] <RustyShackleford> but i'll ask one more time
[18:49] <alami> lotuspsychje: that's a wireless monitorring tool
[18:50] <RustyShackleford> I can't seem to boot the ubuntu installer from usb in UEFI mode
[18:50] <RustyShackleford> works fine in legacy boot
[18:50] <BananaManLinux> if i backup ubuntu with norton ghost, will I have a problem?
[18:50] <RustyShackleford> however, my windows is installed with uefi enabled
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> alami: did you check your additional driver list for wifi drivers?
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> RustyShackleford: secureboot set to OFF?
[18:50] <HickoryDickory> I'm having a problem. Who will help me?
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> !ask | HickoryDickory
[18:50] <BananaManLinux> quick :p
[18:50] <Corvette> Hey everyone. So I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS right now on my main machine, which has a GTX670. I'm using the Nvidia proprietary drivers (latest) and I've never managed to fix the vertical tearing issue. I see that Ubuntu 14.04 boasts "a 50% performance increase with nvidia proprietary drivers", is that likely to solve it?
[18:51] <HickoryDickory> !patience
[18:51] <RustyShackleford> lotuspsychje, yes I did set SecureBoot to off
[18:51] <HelloWorld321> According to dpkg, I have grub2 installed.  I don't see the grub menu on bootup.  How do I make the grub menu appear?
[18:51] <alami> lotuspsychje: do you have an idea how can i repaire my system?
[18:52] <Beldar> Corvette, Kinda a guess don;t you think?
[18:52] <v0lksman> HelloWorld321: hold the shift key I believe
[18:52] <yvnu> RustyShackleford: i know it sounds retarded but try a different usb input, who knows
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> alami: check your syslogs to see network errors maybe?
[18:52] <RustyShackleford> yvnu, yeah why not?
[18:52] <Corvette> Beldar maybe, maybe not
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> alami: try uninstall the monitor tool etc..check wifi driver list
[18:53] <HelloWorld321> RustyShackleford, yvnu: that's actually pretty reasonable.  I'm surprised how many USB ports are flakey.
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> alami: did you updated to latest?
[18:53] <Beldar> Corvette, 50/50 is the answer, that is not really answerable, dual boot it and see.
[18:53] <HickoryDickory> I am having a problem with the ATI drivers I installed through the control panel. After I install the ATI drivers, either gflrx or gflrx-updates, firefox scrolling is laggy. Scrolling in other applications, including Chromium, works just fine. I have an extreme preference for using Firefox, so I really want to fix this issue.
[18:53] <alami> lotuspsychje: i have uninstal the wifi tool, i have the latest update
[18:53] <RustyShackleford> one other idea
[18:53] <HelloWorld321> v0lksman: tx ... I got it
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> alami: lswh -C network what shows after driver=
[18:54] <RustyShackleford> In UEFI, there is an option to create a new boot option
[18:54] <RustyShackleford> you specify device and a file
[18:54] <BananaManLinux> if i backup ubuntu with norton ghost, will I have a problem?
[18:54] <RustyShackleford> so maybe there is a specific file to load?
[18:54] <RustyShackleford> howerver, when you install windows, the usb option works just fine
[18:54] <wescotte> I have a laptop connected to my TV via HDMI. When I close the lid it turns off the LCD (but machine doesn't sleep since I disabled it) but it also turns off the signal to the TV. How can I keep the TV running but turn the laptop LCD off?
[18:55] <Beldar> BananaManLinux, using norton from what OS?
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> +me thinks why do ppl use those nightmare dualboots instead of single ubuntu install :p
[18:55] <Corvette> Beldar I know it's a possibility of yes or no, I was wondering if anyone experienced an improvement when they upgraded
[18:55] <BananaManLinux> boot from cd then backup with norton
[18:55] <alami> lotuspsychje: rt280usb, but wlan0 and eth0 is disabled
[18:55] <Beldar> Corvette, Ah, polling, not really a support thing is all.
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> alami: you have hardware switch or bios disable?
[18:56] <Corvette> Oh right, this is the support channel
[18:56] <Corvette> I should ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:56] <Beldar> BananaManLinux, I doubt anyone here will answer that, there are so many open source options, and 3rd party are not supported here.
[18:56] <RustyShackleford> yvnu, dude I don't fucking believe it
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> alami: check realteks website for latest wifi drivers maybe, might be firmware patch you need perhaps
[18:56] <Bashing-om> HelloWorld321: Only 1 operating system installed ? by default then the grub menu is not displayed. To see the grub menu-> as soon as the bios screen clears, depress and hold the right shift key. What results ?
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> !language | RustyShackleford
[18:56] <alami> lotuspsychje: i havn't do anything, where can i check network logs?
[18:56] <dekozo> can someone tell me what should i do to downgrade php5.5 to 5.3?
[18:56] <RustyShackleford> oh I'm sorry. I got a little excited
[18:57] <RustyShackleford> because yvnu's advice actually worked
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> alami: try /var/log/syslog
[18:57] <Beldar> BananaManLinux, I use clonezilla, but it just saves in packages, not a mirror.
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> alami: or tail -f /var/log/syslog and mess around with network a bit in realtime
[18:57] <RustyShackleford> yvnu, i had very little faith that a different usb port would actually work
[18:58] <BananaManLinux> will norton ghost backup ubuntu? answer: Yes, the image software (like ghost) makes an image of the hard drive. It doesn't matter what is on the hard drive.
[18:58] <BananaManLinux> yay!
[18:58] <lotuspsychje> !clone | BananaManLinux
[18:58] <wols_> BananaManLinux: or use clonezilla
[18:59] <BananaManLinux> clonezilla?
[18:59] <Beldar> BananaManLinux, Just be aware this is support for stuff in the ubuntu repos, not 3rd party software.
[18:59] <jhutchins> BananaManLinux: Free software Norton was patterned after.
[18:59] <BananaManLinux> okay
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> BananaManLinux: you want a nice backup of ubuntu right, wols idea provides it
[19:00] <wols_> jhutchins: clonezilla came after ghost, way after
[19:00] <BananaManLinux> thanks!
[19:01] <jhutchins> wols_: I seem to remember it differently, I'll go look it up.
[19:01] <Beldar> BananaManLinux, Imaging is a good thing, you're on the right track. ;)
[19:01] <BananaManLinux> i already have a backup of windows but wanna do a backup of ubuntu
[19:01] <BananaManLinux> :p
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> BananaManLinux: aptoncd can also help store your fav packages
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> BananaManLinux: clean install of ubuntu will only take half n hour
[19:02] <OneWithWaves> Hello everyone! Would one of you be so kind as to help me with a graphics issue on my seedbox?
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> OneWithWaves: ask away mate
[19:03] <OneWithWaves> I'm running Xubuntu (14.04, I'm pretty sure) but the Xubuntu channel is dead...
[19:03] <Beldar> OneWithWaves, Address the issue, and post the graphic hardware info.
[19:03] <Aegir> Aegir heeft verlaten (Aegir Quit)
[19:04] <OneWithWaves> Anyway, I'm getting a black screen on login. The screen is receiving a signal but it's just black and I can only interact with the system via Ctrl+Alt+F1. The system is a stock AcerPowerF2B
[19:04] <OneWithWaves> I'm looking up the graphics chipset on that right now...
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> OneWithWaves: did you try failsafeX from recoverymode?
[19:04] <Beldar> OneWithWaves, run lspci in a tty if needed and post the graphic card,
[19:05] <OneWithWaves> Graphics is an Intel 82865G embedded
[19:05] <OneWithWaves> How do I go about trying FailsafeX in recovery? Via root prompt?
[19:06] <HickoryDickory> I am having a problem that is connected with the ATI driver. After installing the ATI driver from the control panel, either fglrx or fglrx-updates, scrolling in Firefox becomes laggy. Scrolling in other applications, like XChat or Chromium, is not affected. I have a strong preference for Firefox, so I'd like to fix this issue.
[19:07] <yvnu1> RustyShackleford: tht's great man.
[19:07] <Beldar> OneWithWaves, choose the recovery and you will see it in the gui.
[19:08] <Bashing-om> HickoryDickory: What is the graphics card you are running ?
[19:08] <Beldar> Bashing-om, Intel 82865G embedded
[19:08] <OneWithWaves> Right now the only options I have in recovery are resume/clean/dpkg/fsck/grub/network/root/system-summary
[19:08] <daftykins> wrong guy :)
[19:09] <OneWithWaves> Beldar and I are having issues with the same graphics chipset :)
[19:09] <Bashing-om> Beldar: Thanks, Going to be thorny, huh .. Intel should have full support right out of the box, no ?
[19:09] <Beldar> OneWithWaves, This the recovery from the grub menu?
[19:09] <a_> hello
[19:09] <a_> is anyone here?
[19:09] <OneWithWaves> Yes it is, Beldar.
[19:09] <HickoryDickory> Bashing-om, I am using a R9 290 graphics card. I am running ubuntu 14.04 64 bit desktop.
[19:10] <OneWithWaves> Or, at least Ubuntu (advanced options)
[19:10] <Beldar> Bashing-om, Kinda strange there was a bug around precise times, but was fixed.
[19:10] <daftykins> a_: yes you can tell by all the speaking... if you have a question ask away on one line
[19:10] <Beldar> !nomodeset | OneWithWaves same thing basically
[19:10] <Beldar> a_, Many post the issues for help. ;)
[19:11] <OneWithWaves> Excellent. Thanks everyone.
[19:12] <Beldar> OneWithWaves> Beldar and I are having issues with the same graphics chipset :) I have no problems, just a confirmation.
[19:12] <Beldar> not with my computers anyway, hehe
[19:13] <a_> i have a dell inspiron  n5110 laptop that comes with a sandy-bridge intel core i processor with integrated graphics card and a dedicated nvidia card, i was attempting to boot ubuntu 14.04 interminal mode, changing the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub to "text" or "acpi = force" or even "nomodeset" would result in excessive use of the dedicated nvidia card, any advice on what parameters work best for optimus technology?
[19:14] <Bashing-om> HickoryDickory: I guess we can look and see if there is even a driver loaded; pastebin -> sudo lshw -C display <- to see what we are working with.
[19:14] <daftykins> a_: you need to look into running nvidia-prime or bumblebee
[19:15] <OneWithWaves> One more question - I have my desktop back! It's beautiful! Now how do I go about preventing the issue from cropping up again? Permanently changing my GRUB config?
[19:16] <HickoryDickory>  Bashing-om, *-display
[19:16] <HickoryDickory>        description: VGA compatible controller
[19:16] <HickoryDickory>        product: Hawaii PRO [Radeon R9 290]
[19:16] <HickoryDickory>        vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
[19:16] <HickoryDickory>        physical id: 0
[19:16] <HickoryDickory>        bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
[19:16] <unopaste> HickoryDickory you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[19:17] <Beldar> OneWithWaves, you would change /etc/default/grub if you want that .
[19:17] <Beldar> the update-grub
[19:17] <Beldar> then*
[19:17] <OneWithWaves> The only reason I ask is because I'm about to do a distro upgrade and never needed the option previously...
[19:17] <OneWithWaves> So I'm wondering if that's the "right way" to fix it or if I should be looking into drivers or something.
[19:18] <HickoryDickory> Bashing-om, I don't know if my previous message was properly displayed, so here it is again http://paste.ubuntu.com/7498669/
[19:19] <Bashing-om> a_: As daftykins advises, see: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/using-nvidia-graphics-drivers-with.html , https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee .
[19:19] <wilhelm1> Where is hardware layer support offered?
[19:19] <Bashing-om> HickoryDickory: Look'n at /7498669 .
[19:19] <Beldar> OneWithWaves, The good thing is you have the desktop, intel usually works, so you have some time to work on this.
[19:21] <OneWithWaves> Beldar, is doing a dist-upgrade a bad idea now then?
[19:22] <Beldar> OneWithWaves, be careful dist-upgrade has a specific meaning, and it is not a release upgrade. I never upgrade so I can't really say.
[19:22] <Bashing-om> HickoryDickory: Says " configuration: driver=fglrx_pci" you are running ATI card with a proprietary driver, how did you install the driver ?
[19:23] <OneWithWaves> Beldar, my mistake for not having a good concept of the difference between the terminal and GUI upgrade routes. I was planning on using the automatic GUI updater to upgrade to 14.04... I have several Xubuntu systems and this one has been out of commission for a while.
[19:23] <bekks> OneWithWaves: I'd use the terminal way, since X might be restarted, crashing the gui, crashing the update.
[19:24] <HickoryDickory> Bashing-om, I installed the driver using the control panel. I found the option in "Software & Updates" under the "Additional Drivers" tab.
[19:24] <simpleuser> Could someone help me with this please ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2225456 My eyes are bleeding :'(
[19:25] <OneWithWaves> bekks, thanks - I'll stay here for a bit then and work on this...
[19:25] <Bashing-om> HickoryDickory: That is proper, OK - again tell us the nature of the problem (yeah one more time, please).
[19:25] <wilhelm1> simpleuser: bleeding?
[19:25] <simpleuser> wilhelm1: Can’t reduce the brightness of my screen.
[19:25] <simpleuser> That’s terrible.
[19:26] <wilhelm1> simpleuser: napkins
[19:26] <simpleuser> I need to half close my eyes.
[19:26] <Beldar> simpleuser, Did you update-grub after altering that?
[19:26] <simpleuser> Beldar: Yes.
[19:26] <Beldar> cool
[19:26] <simpleuser> sudo update-grub and restart.
[19:26] <wilhelm1> simpleuser: paper towel
[19:26] <yvnu1> Beldar: here's the boot-info http://paste.ubuntu.com/7498691/
[19:26] <Beldar> thanks yvnu1
[19:27] <daftykins> simpleuser: i've also seen a thread which applies both the =vendor edit and the acpi_osi, however instead of putting "acpi_osi=Linux" they just leave it as acpi_osi=
[19:27] <JACK3viso> Ciao a tutti quelli del canale :)
[19:28] <rww> ubottu: it
[19:28] <Beldar> yvnu1, The recommended repair may fix it as I read at the bottom it's intentions.
[19:28] <HickoryDickory> Bashing-om, Whenever I install either the fglrx or fglrx-updates driver, I experience laggy scrolling in Firefox. I do not experience laggy scrolling in Firefox when I am using the default open source driver. Even though I am experiencing laggy scrolling in Firefox, I do not experience any laggy scrolling in either Chromium or XChat. I do not know if any other applications would experience laggy scrolling.
[19:28] <simpleuser> daftykins: Oh. Thanks. Gonna try that.
[19:29] <Beldar> yvnu1, what is in sda6?
[19:30] <Beldar> a recovery partition?
[19:30] <yvnu1> yes it's the hp oem recovery
[19:30] <Bashing-om> HickoryDickory: Don't know, as FireFox is the only ap affected .. maybe (re-)install FireFox and see what results ?
[19:31] <wilhelm1> Is that list of 'psychiatrists' ready?
[19:31] <rww> HickoryDickory: Turn off smooth scrolling and/or hardware acceleration in Firefox advanced preferences
[19:31] <rww> lastlog -clear
[19:31] <rww> oops
[19:32] <Beldar> yvnu1, Cool I just see part of the bcd boot, I would try the recommended. There is a thread at the ubuntu forums by the developer of the bootrepair app where this stuff is the focus and has fast answers, the link is on the apps wiki.
[19:32] <wilhelm1> Military operations on civilian land requires this list.
[19:32] <rww> wilhelm1: Do you have an Ubuntu support question we can help you with? If not, please keep the channel clear of offtopic comments. Thanks :)
[19:33] <fellayaboy> is it possible to install a .cer ceriticate
[19:34] <fellayaboy> x.509 cert?
[19:34] <bekks> fellayaboy: For sure it is. But it depends on the use case on how to do it.
[19:34] <fellayaboy> well its for a pidgin plugin.. pidgin-sipe...
[19:35] <fellayaboy> microsoft office communicator plugin for pidgin
[19:35] <fellayaboy> it needs to install a ceriticate from our company to be able to use it
[19:35] <fellayaboy> it works on windows and on macs
[19:35] <wilhelm1> Is Ubuntu going to support me?
[19:35] <fellayaboy> brb
[19:35] <bekks> wilhelm1: Ask an ubuntu support question and find out.
[19:36] <HickoryDickory> Bashing-om, deselecting smooth scrolling in Firefox removes the lagginess. Scrolling is now responsive. The Hardware Acceleration option has no perceptible effect on the scrolling. Of course, the scrolling is now choppy. I am wondering if and how I can make smooth scrolling work under Firefox while maintaining the responsiveness that Chromium and other applications have, all while using the ATI driver.
[19:37] <rww> HickoryDickory: Doubtful. fglrx is not as good at 2D acceleration as the open-source drivers, and it's closed-source so we can't improve it, so you get fun problems like that.
[19:37] <wilhelm1> What is the status of ubuntuone?
[19:37] <Beldar> HickoryDickory, Might be worth asking in #firefox  just guess however.
[19:37] <kvess> Going to buy a new graphics card, presumably a GTX 760 or 770. Does it make any difference if I go with a MSI, Gainward, Gigabyte or other rebranding, from a driver compatiblity point of view?
[19:38] <rww> wilhelm1: https://one.ubuntu.com/services/shutdown/ is still accurate
[19:38] <wols_> kvess: no. but noise is and can be different
[19:38] <Beldar> kvess, Technically polling is not allowed here, might get some answer though.
[19:38] <rww> I don't think that's polling?
[19:39] <Beldar> rww, cool, my bad. ;)
[19:39] <bekks> wilhelm1: Whats your specific ubuntu support question?
[19:39] <kvess> Regardless, I didn't know that, which means I have some rules to read. :)
[19:40] <Beldar> rww, looks that way to me, but I like seeing people get support in general.
[19:40] <rww> Beldar: If it had been "which of these brands should I go with" or "which chipset should I get", it would be. Asking if Ubuntu cares which brand he gets from a driver POV isn't really.
[19:41] <wilhelm1> rww: Why is it shut down?
[19:41] <wilhelm1> bekks: Is ubuntu capable of specific nano production?
[19:41] <rww> wilhelm1: See the link I gave you and the blog post it links to. #ubuntu cannot answer further questions that aren't covered there, as it's a Canonical matter and we are not Canonical employees.
[19:41] <Beldar> rww, Fine line yeah, I will not jump so fast, and reflect befpre doing so. ;)
[19:41] <bekks> wilhelm1: If you are, Ubuntu is.
[19:46] <wilhelm1> bekks: What is this python3 used for?
[19:47] <rww> wilhelm1: It's an interpreted programming language, used for scripting and writing programs.
[19:47] <bekks> wilhelm1: Thats not related to Ubuntu issues. You can easily find out what Python is and what it is used for.
[19:47] <bugtraq> HOla
[19:47] <wilhelm1> I know what it is.
[19:47] <bekks> wilhelm1: Then why do you ask?
[19:47] <rww> wilhelm1: Good. Now you know what it's used for too.
[19:47] <dweez> rww: And knowing is half the battle. G.I. JOE!!!
[19:47] <nomic> python is all you need to know
[19:48] <wilhelm1> The question differs from what it is.
[19:48] <wilhelm1> I asked what it is used for by ubuntu
[19:48] <bekks> wilhelm1: You did not ask that. And the use cases stay the same.
[19:49] <wilhelm1> bekks: you did not, I did
[19:49] <wilhelm1> I know the context
[19:49] <wilhelm1> It was asked for Ubuntu support questions.
[19:49] <bekks> wilhelm1: I dont think you know about what you are talking. I will set you on ignore.
[19:49] <Jonii> So, I still don't know what is going on and where to ask
[19:49] <Jonii> So i ask here
[19:49] <Jonii> libav has this thing called avconv, which I use to stream to twitch
[19:49] <wilhelm1> Python is not ubuntu specific.
[19:50] <BananaManLinux> who was it who said to me clonezilla?
[19:50] <wilhelm1> So asking: What is this python3 used for is in context of Ubuntu
[19:50] <rww> BananaManLinux: 18:58:58 < wols_> BananaManLinux: or use clonezilla
[19:50] <rww> wilhelm1: why?
[19:50] <BananaManLinux> wols, can i message you?
[19:50] <Jonii> avconv has many settings and 6300 lines long man page which I'm still in the process of reading. Anyhow, I tried to solve twitch problem by changing my audio bitrate into something smaller, because twitch video seemed to jump ahead way too fast(like, 60s of video was played back in 10s)
[19:50] <wilhelm1> There is also python 2 on Ubuntu so it was a specific question.
[19:50] <BananaManLinux> it's a bit OT to say here.
[19:51] <Jonii> As a result, the video plays back in proper speed, and audio quality is superb, but video quality dropped into shit. Anyone here who can help me? :3
[19:52] <Jordan_U> Jonii: Try asking in #libav .
[19:52] <Jonii> Jordan_U: ty
[19:52] <Jordan_U> Jonii: You're welcome.
[19:54] <alami> hello, when i run dpkg -l | network, i see that network-manager is rc, and i don't have networking on ubuntu 14.04, is that the PRoblem?
[19:54] <wilhelm1> What we can do is setup a bot to convert documents to text
[19:54] <wilhelm1> That is supportive
[19:55] <wilhelm1> Is ubuntu capable of delivering fresh baked bread?
[19:55] <wilhelm1> On a daily basis.
[19:58] <alami> hello, when i run dpkg -l | network, i see that network-manager is rc, and i don't have networking on ubuntu 14.04, is that the PRoblem?
[19:58] <Bashing-om> alami: "rc" is component  "removed, config files remain". Not generally a problem. Do you want to remove ALL 'rc' marked files ?
[20:00] <alami> Bashing-om: i want to install for two days a packet, after that i don't have networking
[20:01] <alami> and without networking i can't do anything,
[20:01] <alami> ithink the best practice is to reinstall
[20:02] <Jordan_U> alami: Why did you remove network-manager?
[20:02] <Bashing-om> alami: I understand that you have removed "network-manager" and now have no networking capability. you now need 'networking' restored ?
[20:03] <alami> Jordan_U: i havn't remove it, i want to install a packet names inssider, and it have remove network-manager, i think if i download network manager and install it from usb with dpkg will solve the problem
[20:03] <alami> what do you think?
[20:03] <alami> Bashing-om: yes
[20:05] <freijon> alami: are you on ethernet or wifi?
[20:05] <Bashing-om> alami: -> Jordan_U :: bring up networking manually prior to installing 'network-manager' ??
[20:06] <alami> Bashing-om: don't work, i have tryed ifocnfig eth0 up and ifconfig wlan0 up but can't have ip adress and connect to the internet
[20:06] <alami> freijon: i use wireless to join the internet
[20:06] <Hilikus> hi guys
[20:06] <Jordan_U> alami: THe word you're looking for is "package". Packets and Packages are two different things.
[20:07] <Bashing-om> alami: While considerations are in progress, what returns from terminal command -> ping -c3 <IP_ADDRESS> <- .
[20:07] <alami> Jordan_U:lol Sorry i miss write that
[20:07] <Hilikus> i was in the middle of a distro upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 and by accident i pressed ctrl-alt-del which it seems killed the X server. the update was in the processes of installing all the new packages. now i do apt-get upgrade and it says everything is up to date, but it can't be, i stopped it in the middle
[20:08] <Jordan_U> Hilikus: Was it still downloading, or was it actually installing them?
[20:08] <Hilikus> Jordan_U: download was finished, it was installing
[20:09] <wols_> Hilikus: dist-upgrade
[20:09] <Hilikus> according to the oprogress bar, around 60%
[20:09] <alami> Bashing-om: network unreacheble
[20:09] <Jordan_U> Hilikus: I wouldn't be surprised if update-manager continues the upgrade process even if X dies. How long after killing X did you try to use apt-get? Maybe it had already finished by that point (running in the background).
[20:10] <Guest35724> hi
[20:10] <Hilikus> Jordan_U: i guess it's possible, maybe 5 minutes after
[20:10] <Hilikus> Jordan_U: is there an update log?
[20:11] <freijon> Hilikus: are the entries in /etc/sources.list still pointing to the old version?
[20:11] <yvnu1> doesn't apt-get update only update the software package sources info?
[20:11] <freijon> /etc/apt/sources.list I guess it is
[20:11] <Jordan_U> Hilikus: /var/log/dist-upgrade/ IIRC.
[20:12] <Bashing-om> alami: Small steps to an end what is in the file: /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf ? managed=false ??
[20:12] <Hilikus> freijon: sources.list points to trusty
[20:12] <Hilikus> but that's one of the first steps in the process
[20:12] <Guest35724> http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/Chumz
[20:13] <freijon> so I guess if you run apt-get update and nothing shows up that all went fine
[20:14] <alami> Bashing-om managed= falde
[20:14] <alami> Bashing-om managed= false
[20:16] <alami> Bashing-om: mywlan0 is up, and iwlist wlan0 scan show no scan results
[20:16] <alami> install network-managet will solve this Problem?
[20:18] <Bashing-om> alami: Good, now what -> /etc/network/interfaces ? auto eth1 , iface eth1 inet dhcp. Where 'eth1' is the wired interface (maybe eth0). ??
[20:18] <Jordan_U> Guest35724: Unsolicited links like that are assumed to be spam. If you don't reply explaining with a good alternate explanation for that link in the next 60 seconds I'm going to ban you. Feel free to appeal the ban in #ubuntu-ops.
[20:18] <alami> Bashing-om: i don't use my eth0, i use my wlan0
[20:18] <Guest35724> It's a book I have for sale
[20:19] <Guest35724> I'm sorry about that
[20:19] <Guest35724> Am new to Chat
[20:19] <Bashing-om> alami: No good way to install any package untill we get networking up.
[20:19] <Jordan_U> Guest35724: That would be spam. Please don't post such things in the future. This channel is for Ubuntu technical support questions and answers only.
[20:19] <Bashing-om> alami: You do not have a wired connection ?
[20:19] <Guest35724> Forgive me for that Jordan
[20:19] <Jordan_U> Guest35724: I won't ban you this time since you're not just a spam bot (as most such posts are from).
[20:19] <Guest35724> ok will do
[20:20] <alami> Bashing-om: nope, but i can use usb stick and my laptop to install packages
[20:20] <alami> Bashing-om: or a new installation will save time?
[20:21] <Guest35724> ok Thank You...
[20:22] <Bashing-om> alami: upfront from me, I have no experience with WIFI, Might be that you can (re-)install 'network-manager' via USB, never done it, can not say.
[20:24] <alami> Bashing-om: i have try to download netwok-manager but after i try dpkg -i, i have to isntall other packages, is there a way to download network-manager with all depencies ..?
[20:26] <Jordan_U> alami: sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[20:27] <Jordan_U> s3ri0us: Please avoid noisy nick changing in large channels like #ubuntu. You can simply use "/away Reason" without creating noise.
[20:27] <igor__> hello, my wifi doesnt work it said tells me connection activation failed
[20:27] <alami> Jordan_U: i don't have internet, i want to download the package with all it's dependency
[20:28] <Jordan_U> !offline | alami
[20:29] <Jordan_U> alami: Note that installing via dpkg will *not* change the fact that inSSIDer conflicts with network-manager. You can have one or the other installed, not both.
[20:29] <igor__> cannot connect to wifi, connection activation failed help?
[20:30] <Beldar> igor__, Helps to have the actual wifi hardware posted, and some details/context for help. ;)
[20:31] <igor__> well i downloaded ubuntu on mac book pro, i see the wifi and press it and it goes connection acivation failed
[20:31] <Beldar> igor__, Run lspci in the terminal and find the wifi info to post.
[20:33] <igor__> PCIe 1394b Controller (rev 08)
[20:33] <igor__> 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[20:33] <igor__> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5764M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)
[20:33] <igor__> 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation MCP89 [GeForce 320M] (rev a2)
[20:34] <Beldar> !broadcom | igor__
[20:34] <igor__> so everything i need is on there
[20:34] <igor__> ?
[20:45] <aman> hi
[20:46] <Guest80578> hiiiiii
[20:46] <YuLin> hello :)
[20:47] <Guest80578> :p
[20:48] <mario_> hello channel ubuntu Italy ? than you
[20:48]  * dekozo detachou
[20:48] <Guest80578> italy?
[20:50] <Guest80578> is it possible to install xcode in ubuntu??
[20:52] <alsetema> hello
[20:52] <alsetema> is anyone willing to help me?
[20:52] <bekks> alsetema: you have to ask a support question first :)
[20:53] <sudormrf> Guest80578, no
[20:54] <alsetema> true , sporry
[20:55] <sudormrf> Guest80578, someone was working on an OSX wine type emulator, but I don't think that thing was even close to ready last time I read about it.
[20:55] <alsetema> so, i have this printer the canon pixma mp140  and I want to install its drivers as its instructions say in this webpage http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-drivers-for-canon-printers-pixma-mp-series-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-linux-mint-17-qiana-and-their-derivative-systems/                 but when I try to install the last command the sudo apt-get install  (printer driver here) terminal says:
[20:56] <alsetema> Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
[20:56] <alsetema>  cnijfilter-mp140series:i386 : Depende: libtiff4:i386 (> 3.9.5-3~) pero no es instalable
[20:56] <alsetema> E: No se pudieron corregir los problemas, usted ha retenido paquetes rotos.
[20:56] <alsetema> well, it is in spanish but in conclusion it says those packages are broken
[20:59] <trndr> alsetma, I don't understand spanish, but it seems like the driver depends on libtiff4:i386 (> 3.9.5-3~), which probably can be installed with sudo apt-get install libtiff4:i386
[21:00] <alsetema> let me try that wait a second
[21:01] <l3rg> alsetema: or you can do `sudo apt-get install  (printer driver here) -y`
[21:02] <alsetema> trndr, it doesnt work it says the package doesnt have a candidate for installation
[21:02] <alsetema> or at least that says my bad translation of it
[21:03] <alsetema> l3rg, It doesnt work , the thing is it needs libtiff4:i386 to work and i cant manage a way to make it work
[21:04] <alsetema> i just can't make it run , It says the package is broken
[21:04] <alsetema> let me google translate that+
[21:05] <trndr> alsetema, this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1857025.html
[21:05] <alsetema> trndr,  the terminal says this The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[21:05] <alsetema>   cnijfilter-mp140series: i386: Depends: libtiff4: i386 (> 3.9.5-3 ~) but it is not installable
[21:05] <alsetema> E: They could not fix the problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:07] <l3rg> alsetema: on my box it says it is referred to by another package, is obsoleted or only available on from another  source, so it likely exists, you just have to find out what source it's from
[21:07] <alsetema> l3rg, is that it?
[21:08] <alsetema> let me try
[21:08] <jhutchins> alsetema: Rather than having to translate, try something like LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install
[21:09] <jhutchins> alsetema: Do you have ppd's installed?  Do you have global/universal enabled?
[21:09] <alsetema> jhutchins,
[21:09] <alsetema> i have
[21:09] <alsetema> but I would like to know a way of checking out
[21:10] <jhutchins> alsetema: Is cnjfilter-thingie a third party package?
[21:11] <alsetema> i'm not shure jhutchins but the ppa is this sudo add-apt-repository ppa:michael-gruz/canon-trunk but im quite a newby to ubuntu
[21:12] <alsetema> jhutchins, if you want to know the steps I am following are from this webpage     http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-drivers-for-canon-printers-pixma-mp-series-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-linux-mint-17-qiana-and-their-derivative-systems/
[21:14] <BananaManLinux> clonezilla is too hard to use, norton ftw.
[21:14] <BananaManLinux> and out! ;)
[21:14] <jhutchins> alsetema: Ok, I think the problem is probably that Cannon is only providing a driver for Debian, and possibly for an older release at that.
[21:14] <l3rg> alsetema:Y
[21:15] <jhutchins> alsetema: There is a native CUPS driver for it, use that with the gutenprint option and see if it works.
[21:15] <jhutchins> alsetema: It does for some people.
[21:15] <alsetema> jhutchins,  let me try it
[21:16] <jhutchins> I don't see the source code from Cannon, so you can't recompile for your platform.
[21:17] <jhutchins> alsetema: That page says http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-drivers-for-canon-printers-pixma-mp-series-on-ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr-linux-mint-17-qiana-and-their-derivative-systems/
[21:17] <jhutchins> Grr...
[21:18] <jhutchins> "The Canon drivers are available via Michael Gruz.s PPA, but unfortunately they require the libtiff4 library, which is not available via the default repositories of Ubuntu 14.04". It explains how to work around that.
[21:19] <alsetema> jhutchins, l3rg  and trndr  i installed the cups driver and works perfctly fine thanks anyway
[21:20] <alsetema> good bye!
[21:32] <minty> hey my resolution is messed up only one exits around 640 x 480
[21:33] <justme123> So I managed to successfully install Ubuntu server on server. There are still one issue to solve...
[21:33] <justme123> I het a "this video mode is not supported" when grub is displayed.
[21:34] <justme123> Actually geub is not displayed bit the error is.
[21:34] <minty> hey my resolution is messed up only one exits around 640 x 480
[21:34] <jhutchins> minty: Which release are you on?  What hardware do you have?
[21:34] <l3rg>  justme123: is it in VirtualBox?
[21:34] <justme123> By oressing rNdom keys on the keyboard it went on to boot into command prompt. I was able to sudo upgrade and update etc
[21:34] <minty> 14-04
[21:34] <minty> ubuntu
[21:35] <minty> i have a mac book pro
[21:35] <jhutchins> !mac
[21:35] <jhutchins> minty: You may not have the correct video driver for some reason.
[21:35] <justme123> It is 14-04 that I installed straight onto the server.
[21:35] <minty> so how do i get the right one
[21:36] <daftykins> minty: download the ISO with 14.94, 64-bit mac in the name
[21:36] <daftykins> *14.04
[21:36] <minty> wait so i redownload ubuntu ur saying
[21:37] <justme123> I then went on to download and install desktop but the GUI caused the same error message.
[21:38] <justme123> I am thinking to dona clean install but specifying video=257 for vesa 640x480 256 color so that perhpas I can at least see the geub options.
[21:38] <justme123> grub*
[21:38] <justme123> I dont know if it will work.
[21:39] <Joe_knock> Hello
[21:39] <Joe_knock> Hello
[21:39] <justme123> I am also searching for a pci or pci-x video add-on video card and see if that will give better results.
[21:40] <justme123> I wish there was a way to bypass grub from a clean install so that the server boots straight into command line
[21:41] <Bashing-om> justme123: One has to have a boot loader to load an operating system, grub is better than most.
[21:41] <minty> so what do i do to fix my screnn resolution
[21:41] <minty> only one exists
[21:42] <Joe_knock> I have 2 ubuntu 12.04s installed on 2 PCs. My internet is a bit slow, so updates can be a headache, does anyone know how I can download the update once only?
[21:42] <Bashing-om> Joe_knock: You have a support question ?
[21:42] <justme123> I know, I am not saying dont use grub, I am saying let there be one option in grub wgich is the default Ubuntu but that the boot process runs straight through, selecting that default and giving me the command prompt. I need this because I cannot see grub due to a video issue so I cannot do a manual selection.
[21:42] <daftykins> Joe_knock: sure i do that all the time
[21:42] <Jordan_U> minty: Did you get any error messages at boot? Have you already installed Ubuntu or are you currently using the Ubuntu LiveCD/USB environment?
[21:43] <daftykins> Joe_knock: download and install on one, then scp /var/cache/apt/archives/ from the first to the second
[21:43] <minty> i am currently usimng the ubuntu no errors and boot
[21:43] <minty> just only one exsting resolution
[21:43] <Jordan_U> minty: Did you have the same resolution issue when you were installing?
[21:43] <minty> no
[21:43] <justme123> I find solutions of editing grub but that is only once you are already in the system.
[21:44] <wilhelm1> Hi
[21:44] <minty> i used to have errors and it would freeze which i fixed by reintsaling nvidia and bumble bee but know i have a resolution problem
[21:44] <justme123> I tried to do a system reacue to get to a shell and I can get to the grub file, but I cannot edit and save it📄
[21:44] <minty> everything else is fine
[21:44] <Joe_knock> daftykins: Do I just copy whatever is in that archive folder to the other PC or is there a more sophisticated way of doing things? I don't mind installing smaller updates, but it is the chromium, FF and x86 updates that are over 30MBs that trouble me
[21:44] <wilhelm1> rc.local doesn't seem to be running
[21:45] <Jordan_U> justme123: If you don't press any key at the grub menu it will boot the default entry.
[21:45] <wilhelm1> firewall is wide open and the rules are set to restore in rc.local
[21:45] <daftykins> Joe_knock: sudo scp /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb user@host:.
[21:45] <justme123> Jordan_U really? After how long?
[21:46] <wilhelm1> then there was an electrical storm
[21:46] <daftykins> Joe_knock: then on the other machine, SSH in and "sudo mv *.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/" then run your upgrade
[21:46] <Joe_knock> okay so I need to SSH into the other machine
[21:46] <Jordan_U> justme123: If you only have one OS installed, immediately.
[21:46] <Jordan_U> justme123: For changing the resolution of the grub menu, see http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Simple-configuration
[21:46] <Joe_knock> daftykins,
[21:47] <Joe_knock> daftykins: what does scp do as a command?
[21:47] <minty> so is anyone gonna help me fix my resolution prblem?????
[21:47] <wilhelm1> support
[21:47] <Slamd64> hello. I have strange issue with nautilus.  it shows me menubar in old style instead of being in titlebar, doesn't matter if I change appearance to show menus in window title or unity bar. here's screenshot http://imgur.com/ayOD4FX
[21:47] <justme123> Thanks for that link. Is there a way to edit grub before you log into the system?
[21:48] <Joe_knock> minty: what is the actual problem? more details help
[21:48] <wilhelm1> firewall rules need to be able to be set
[21:48] <larrypg> well e
[21:48] <trndr> Joe_knock copy through ssh
[21:48] <wilhelm1> support
[21:48] <justme123> Or an alternative way like going through a rescue option.
[21:48] <Joe_knock> I think I could also just copy the files using usb and open them with software centre.
[21:49] <broeisi> hello... how can i check in ubunut 14.04 if someone is port scanning me? ... it used to be in /var/log/messages.. but this files doesn exist anymore
[21:49] <wilhelm1> dell actually sold ubuntu?
[21:49] <Jordan_U> minty: How did you "re-install nvidia and bumblebee"?
[21:49] <minty> i purged
[21:49] <minty> and then installed
[21:49] <wilhelm1> set the firewall rules
[21:49] <Joe_knock> wilhelm1: yes, they're 1 of the few PC companies that sell ubuntu-based laptops
[21:49] <minty> it was long process but got things fixed
[21:49] <minty> only one existing resolution
[21:50] <wilhelm1> is it possible for the firewall rules to be added to rc.local?
[21:50] <l3rg>  minty: did the link the bot give you not help? I am not familiar with a mac. Have you tried any xrandr commands?
[21:50] <minty> i have tried most of them they do not help
[21:50] <wilhelm1> raytheon and northcom
[21:51] <Joe_knock> minty I'm confused, you're not being clear with what your problem is.
[21:51] <minty> i only have one resolution way too close
[21:51] <minty> cant run sum aplications cause they do not support this resolution
[21:51] <Joe_knock> minty is it 400x600 resolution?
[21:51] <wilhelm1> this system is not secure
[21:51] <daftykins> Joe_knock: secure copy over SSH
[21:51] <minty> 640 x 480
[21:52] <daftykins> Joe_knock: please use 'man scp'
[21:52] <Joe_knock> minty did you try adjusting resolution in settings manager?
[21:52] <minty> yes only one exists
[21:52] <Joe_knock> daftykins: I will just copy the files over using USB.
[21:52] <minty> the 600 400 one
[21:52] <wilhelm1> support
[21:52] <Joe_knock> minty can you screenshot this with the drop-down selected?
[21:53] <daftykins> Joe_knock: if they're networked together you're just wasting time
[21:53] <minty> how?
[21:53] <wilhelm1> It is well if the system functions as it claims.
[21:53] <minty> what and how do i screenshot
[21:53] <Joe_knock> daftykins: they're connected to the same router. I'm just trying to decide which one I should SSH into. Also, I have some packages on one that the other doesn't have.
[21:54] <Joe_knock> minty do you know how to use "Print Screen" ?
[21:54] <daftykins> Joe_knock: that won't matter, it just won't use them for updates :) it's just a download cache folder
[21:54] <minty> nope
[21:54] <minty> whats the command
[21:54] <wilhelm1> nuclear weapons
[21:54] <wilhelm1> support
[21:54] <minty> joe whats the command
[21:54] <Joe_knock> wilhelm1 is a bot?
[21:54] <Jordan_U> minty: Please pastebin the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log , and the output of "dmesg".
[21:55] <wilhelm1> Joe_knock: I am commanding the bot.
[21:55] <Joe_knock> thanks daftykins, I will connect them via SSH. the system with less packages will be my "SSH into"
[21:55] <wilhelm1> Joe_knock: the system does not function as it claims.
[21:56] <wilhelm1> rc.local
[21:56] <broeisi> /qui/quit
[21:56] <minty> joe no such file in directory
[21:56] <Jordan_U> wilhelm1: You've been warned about offtopic comments already. Please stick to Ubuntu support related discussion only.
[21:56] <ailan> sorry, but i have a problem with backtrack5r3 dont see my wirelles
[21:56] <ailan> Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection (rev 05)
[21:56] <Joe_knock> wilhelm1: What is 2 + 2?
[21:57] <minty> joe : no sczh file in directry
[21:57] <Jordan_U> ailan: This channel is only for Ubuntu support, not Backtrack or any other derivative distro.
[21:57] <wilhelm1> Is that the idea to just come and keep asking for support? I want to use the computer for something. Is that ok?
[21:57] <minty> such*
[21:57] <ailan> ok thenk
[21:57] <Joe_knock> Jordan_U: I think wilhelm1 needs to disappear. It feels like a bot
[21:58] <wilhelm1> Joe_knock: American made 4 cyl engine.
[21:58] <Joe_knock> that bot was possibly attempting some type of marked response (or so it seems).
[22:05] <simpleuser> For those who tried to help me with my brightness problem earlier… I found the solution! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2186919 \o/
[22:05] <simpleuser> (just to say)
[22:09] <Deihmos> how can i move ubuntu from one drive to another
[22:10] <Joe_knock> Deihmos, it's complex, but you could use a command that moves server-data. I think it's called rsync
[22:10] <trism> simpleuser: you are probably seeing bug 1311297 I have the same on my eeepc, you could test 3.14 to see if that works to confirm
[22:10] <Deihmos> i figures it wouldn't be easy
[22:11] <Deihmos> guess i will just reinstall it
[22:11] <k1l> Deihmos: use dd. then extend the partitions if the 2nd drive is bigger than the first
[22:11] <Joe_knock> Deihmos, rsync isn't that complicated.
[22:12] <Joe_knock> it takes a while, but doesn't seem too difficult.
[22:12] <diegop> rsync sucks
[22:12] <JokesOnYou77> How can I add ~/bin to my path?  I think gnome-terminal does this automatically but I'm on a server with no X atm
[22:12] <Deihmos> i can reinstall it in less time it will take me to google around trying to figure things out
[22:12] <simpleuser> Thanks trism. Didn’t know :)
[22:14] <k1l> Joe_knock: rsync is not enough because it doesnt copy the grub etc
[22:14] <k1l> Deihmos: yes, installs are quite fast. if you dont need a lot time to configurate just copy your user data afterwards and you are done
[22:15] <Joe_knock> k1l: +1 to reinstalling
[22:16] <Bashing-om> JokesOnYou77: One comman way : echo 'PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH"' >> "$HOME/.bashrc" .
[22:20] <pdo_fn14> !package libvlc
[22:20] <JokesOnYou77> Bashing-om, ty!
[22:21] <Bashing-om> JokesOnYou77: :-) .........
[22:22] <k1l> !info libvlc | pdo_fn14
[22:22] <acpiorwhat> how can i format a floppy disk *without*  installing kfloppy?
[22:22] <k1l> !info libvlc5 | pdo_fn14
[22:23] <pdo_fn14> k1l: Ups, thanks for correcting me. :-)
[22:30] <tiblock> Hi. I need upgrade big 70mb package and download stops at 1mb-10mb. So i want get URL and download it via donwload manager. How i can get URL for .deb file of package?
[22:30] <RubixRex> looking for developers for new website for crypto-currency news and merch https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=619780.new#new
[22:36] <Bashing-om> tiblock: My prefered method to 'get' a package -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ...
[22:37] <acpiorwhat> how can i format a floppy disk *without*  installing kfloppy?
[22:37] <educationexpress> gparted?
[22:38] <educationexpress> have you tried ......gparted?
[22:38] <Zekirdek>  hi there how to back python3 to python 2.7
[22:39] <tiblock> Bashing-om, thank you
[22:39] <tiblock> and whats about this ping disconnect thing by the way?
[22:39] <Zekirdek> ping
[22:39] <acpiorwhat> educationexpress, are you talking to me?
[22:39] <tiblock> Zekirdek, are you sure theres no "python2" binary?
[22:39] <educationexpress> yes
[22:39] <trndr> Zekirdek, you should have both
[22:39] <acpiorwhat> gparted to format a floppy? that seems overkill
[22:41] <acpiorwhat> are floppy disks supported by 14.04?
[22:42] <daftykins> acpiorwhat: you could do it command line
[22:42] <acpiorwhat> daftykins, how?
[22:43] <Lunito> Hi, when I try to install "postfixadmin", apt wants to install mysql-server because "postgresql-server" isn't satisfied, but postgresql-9.3 is installed. On trusty.
[22:43] <daftykins> sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/floppy maybe?
[22:43] <Lunito> i think there is a bug that postgresql-9.3 doesn't provide the "symbol" postgresql-server
[22:44] <wilhelm1> Stinky-Feet
[22:45] <zhuang> dpkg-checkbuilddeps shows me unmet dependencies, but I'd like to understand where they come from. where should I look?
[22:45] <acpiorwhat> daftykins, /dev/floppy does not exist
[22:46] <daftykins> acpiorwhat: so check /dev for fd0 or floppy0 or something similar
[22:46] <Lunito> how can i install a package but ignore one of its dependencies?
[22:46] <daftykins> acpiorwhat: use your loaf!
[22:46] <trism> zhuang: debian/control
[22:46] <Lunito> i tried apt-get install --ignore-missing
[22:47] <acpiorwhat> loaf?
[22:47] <wilhelm1> lectrick storms
[22:47] <zhuang> trism: where is that?
[22:47] <zhuang> trism: found it
[22:48] <acpiorwhat> daftykins, /dev/floppy and /dev/fd0 do not exist
[22:48] <wilhelm1> Sharon Gazi
[22:48] <pdo_fn14> !package pdfedit
[22:50] <ataloss> I am not sure if this is off topic, but I have scoured the web for answers with no luck. I am having issue installing ubuntu. Can anyone please help.
[22:52] <ataloss> **WARNING** I AM ABOUT TO SPAM EVERYONE UNTIL SOMEONE RESPONDS
[22:53] <pdo_fn14> !patience | ataloss
[22:53] <ataloss> THANKS
[22:53] <qin> !caps
[22:53] <ataloss> sorry thanks
[22:54] <qin> What  issue?
[22:55] <diegop> why is ubuntu so buggy? so many bugs like that all the day
[22:55] <ataloss> i keep getting an error at the end of the install of ubuntu
[22:55] <qin> diegop: So buggy? Compering to what?
[22:56] <qin> ataloss: What error?
[22:56] <TJ-> Lunito: I agree; there's no package that "Provides: postgresql-server" that 'postfixadmin' has as a "Recommends:"
[22:56] <trndr> ataloss, unless you specify in detail what the error is and what the consequenses are, noone can help
[22:57] <Zekirdek> how to removed prgrams?
[22:57] <Zekirdek> apt-get uninstall x
[22:57] <Zekirdek> its ok?
[22:57] <Zekirdek>  Invalid operation uninstall
[22:58] <TJ-> Zekirdek: "sudo apt-get remove $PACKAGE"
[22:58] <qin> Zekirdek: man apt-get; won't hurt you either
[22:58] <quadHelix> did I miss the error message?
[22:59] <quadHelix> ataloss?
[23:01] <Bashing-1m> Zekirdek: Depending on how much of the ap you want removed; -> sudo apt-get remove <application_name>  , sudo apt-get purge <application_name> ....
[23:06] <zhuang_> does autotool generate debian/control file?
[23:07] <ataloss> 05-21 16:17 ERROR  root: Could not remove: C:\ubuntu\install\ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso Traceback (most recent call last):   File "\lib\wubi\backends\common\backend.py", line 426, in download_iso OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: u'C:\\ubuntu\\install\\ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso' 05-21 16:17 DEBUG  TaskList: New task download 05-21 16:17 DEBUG  TaskList: ### Running download... 05-21 16:17 DEBUG  downloader: downloading
[23:07] <ataloss> any ideas
[23:08] <quadHelix> ataloss, did you install ubuntu or are you trying the live CD?
[23:09] <ataloss> I downloaded ubuntu 14.04 and attempted to install it. this is the result. I am not tech savvy so yeah
[23:11] <yolo`> does javascript and jquery works offline on ubuntu ??
[23:11] <yolo`> where can i download the lib ?
[23:11] <aarobc> yolo`: um yeah...
[23:11] <quadHelix> ataloss, if you have not installed ubuntu previously, your best bet will most likely be to "try Ubuntu" and verify that all your hardware works
[23:11] <yolo`> um yeah ?
[23:12] <yolo`> aarobc,  ?
[23:12] <quadHelix> ataloss, the 'try ubuntu' option will boot from the CD and no files will be copied to your HDD
[23:12] <aarobc> yolo`: javascript is rendered in the browser
[23:14] <cyborgcygnus> Anybody know any good parental control software?
[23:14] <cyborgcygnus> I want to set the days & hours that a child can use the computer.
[23:14] <trndr> ataloss, did you download a iso and burn it to a cd?
[23:15] <ataloss> nope. i just downloaded it, unzipped it, and attempted an install that way.
[23:15] <ataloss> guess i need to burn it to a disc first, huh?
[23:15] <trndr> ataloss, then this will help: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop
[23:15] <quadHelix> %^^
[23:15] <ataloss> cool I'll check it out
[23:15] <ataloss> thanks
[23:21] <daftykins> ataloss: it sounds like you used WUBI...? you don't unzip ISO's, you either burn them to DVD or put them on a USB flash drive and boot from them
[23:23] <ataloss> i did use wubi. obviously i have no idea what i'm doing. so should i just transfer the download .zip file to a usb drive?
[23:24] <daftykins> ataloss: ubuntu doesn't come in a .zip, it's just that windows archive programs like 7zip, winzip, winrar can extract .ISO images
[23:24] <daftykins> ataloss: yep if i were you i would plug in an empty flash drive and download Universal USB Installer from www.pendrivelinux.com
[23:24] <ataloss> gotcha. sorry i'm so ignorant to all of this, but i really appreciate all of the help.
[23:25] <daftykins> ataloss: don't worry, it's exactly what we're here for :)
[23:25] <TJ-> ataloss: See the "Easy ways to switch" ... "From Windows" section of this page http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[23:26] <Bashing-om> ataloss: It is all a process of learning, we are here to help. (hey daftykins beat me to it !) .
[23:26] <qin> cyborgcygnus: Without whining about bad parenting, does yor kid know the password?
[23:26] <daftykins> Bashing-om: :D
[23:26] <mitas> I tried to clone my home partition with a sudo cp -Rp /home/* /home2. No problems there, but when editing fstab to mount the new partition as /home, I can start my desktop, but none of the programs requiring access to my homedrive (i.e. firefox) will start.
[23:26] <ataloss> i have a 1tb external hd with 17gb empty space left, would i be able to use that?
[23:27] <daftykins> mitas: check permissions
[23:27] <cyborgcygnus> qin, It's for my sister, but no. She has her own account though & I prefer her to be able to have her own. SHe tends to log onto the pc when I'm not home which creates armageddon when she's not supposed to be on & my mother catches her.
[23:27] <daftykins> ataloss: that's a bit too tight really
[23:27] <mitas> daftykins, copying with the -p flag should copy both ownership and permissions, or am I missing something important here?
[23:27] <Bashing-om> ataloss: 17 gigs will do for a starter, but will get tight .. see 30 gigs most recommneded.
[23:27] <daftykins> mitas: 'should' being the operative word :)
[23:28] <daftykins> ataloss: what i would do if i were you, is just boot into the live session from the USB once it's made up - and see if all your hardware works (wireless networking being the main sticking point if it's a laptop etc)
[23:28] <trndr> ataloss, if you want it to be the install drive, then yes, but you might whatch out to make sure to partition the drive before
[23:29] <mitas> daftykins, so does that mean that this flag does not work as I think it does. The manpage for cp claims that all attributes and rights will be copied as well.
[23:30] <ataloss> ok. I have to admit I'm feeling a little bit overwhelmed, but I believe I have somewhat of an understanding on what to do. Thanks again everyone for all of the help. Asta
[23:30] <qin> cyborgcygnus: http://askubuntu.com/questions/282806/how-to-enable-or-disabled-a-user
[23:30] <daftykins> mitas: i just meant for you to check :)
[23:31] <trndr> ataloss, just to check we are on the same page, what install/try instructions are you using?
[23:32] <Bashing-om> trndr: ataloss has wonderon on his (sic) merry way.
[23:33] <xxxDSSxxx> is there any good WYSIWYG HTML- editor in unbuntu repository?
[23:34] <xxxDSSxxx> or RDF-editor, like Protege?
[23:34] <trndr> Bashing-om, saw that after I hit enter
[23:34] <mitas> daftykins, permissions seem to be in order, yet upons starting firefox, I get this error message: "Can't create de Gnome-shortcuts folder '/home/$USER/.gnome2/accels' : Access denied...
[23:35] <mitas> daftykins, "de" should have been "the" here
[23:38] <daftykins> mitas: can you pastebin your fstab along with the output of "ls -al /" ?
[23:39] <mitas> daftykins, what's more, even after swapping both partition names in /etc/fstab again (home <=> home2) I still get the same error message. This is on a new Trusty 64 bits install, that was unable to find my LVM pv "Home-Home_Raid1" during install. I removed the pv, and the vg and recreated them after installation.
[23:40] <mitas> daftykins, of what directory do you want the ls -al? , my /home drive?
[23:40] <cyborgcygnus> I keep getting "Requires installation of untrusted packages" when installing software from the ubuntu software centre & when I click the ok or repair option it just keeps popping back up without installing the missing stuff. I just install the missing stuff from the terminal
[23:40] <daftykins> mitas: my command was complete: "ls -al /"
[23:40] <daftykins> mitas: oh i have no experience with LVM
[23:41] <daftykins> cyborgcygnus: do you get any errors when running "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get -f install" in a terminal?
[23:41] <cyborgcygnus> daftykins, yes
[23:42] <daftykins> cyborgcygnus: can you pastebin? :)
[23:42] <cyborgcygnus> fo shizzle just give me a sec
[23:42] <mitas> daftykins, sorry, missed that part..., Hmm, I can't fire up a browser here (neither firefox or chrome will start ), so I can't use pastebin...
[23:43] <cyborgcygnus> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7499490/
[23:44] <mitas> daftykins, I know it's normally not done, but could I please start a PM with you and paste the output there? Unless you know a web browser that does not require write access to my home drive, that is...
[23:44] <daftykins> mitas: install pastebinit, the CLI app, then pipe it to pastebinit
[23:44] <daftykins> e.g. "pastebinit /etc/fstab" and "ls -al / | pastebinit"
[23:44] <mitas> daftykins, will do, just a moment.
[23:45] <daftykins> cyborgcygnus: neither of those look like legitimate repos
[23:47] <mitas> daftykins, , thanks for your help, these are the pastebins of /etc/fstab and ls -la / respectively: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7499498/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/7499503/
[23:50] <mitas> daftykins, /home22 was a typo, but that was easily corrected.
[23:52] <javanic> hello all
[23:53] <mitas> daftykins, Home-Home_Raid1 is a LVM logical volume containing part(propery striped of course) of a RAID1 array /dev/md0
[23:55] <TJ-> mitas: Can you pastebin "lsblk" ?
[23:55] <daftykins> mitas: ok, permissions of the root /home folder looks fine, unfortunately i don't understand LVM to understand if anything's going on with your fstab
[23:55] <mitas> TJ, sure
[23:55]  * nevyn understands lvm
[23:56] <mitas> TJ, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7499526/
[23:57] <javanic> any installation pros here?
[23:58] <TJ-> mitas: That looks strange; it doesn't show the mountpoint for / ... is this the bare-metal running system, or from a liveISO recovery session?
[23:58] <daftykins> javanic: just ask
[23:58] <mitas> TJ, it's a live system
[23:59] <javanic> I installed 14.04 on a new samsung laptop.. ran fine, came back and all i had was a black screen ( this is a couple of days later) won't even boot from dvd now
[23:59] <javanic> not sure if it's something with software, in bios or the hardware
[23:59] <mitas> TJ, SSD_Statisch-Root (dm-5)        252:5    0    28G  0 lvm  <= this is mounted as /
[23:59] <nevyn> how do I set skype to use a non-default audiohow do I configure pulseaudio to send skype call audio to my usbt headset but ring on spethe defautlcurrent 'main' pa output?
[23:59] <TJ-> mitas: OK, so the "/etc/fstab" you showed is from the failed environment... that explains the missing parts of the "lsblk" output :)