[00:03] <euckster> Is there a hardware expert who can help me fix my usb flash drive if it is possible? I can't format it. http://pastebin.com/ARmr6LyR
[00:04] <euckster> also the stick is not listed with 'fdisk -l'
[00:06] <MAxou> someone can advice me a good code editor like notepad++ in ubuntu ? I have 2 conditions, color syntax + ftp system like auto upload when save file like nppftp in notepad
[00:07] <bprompt> MAxou:    you mean, an editor that can edit ftp server files?
[00:08] <sam_vimes> MAxou gedit, geany or atom.io
[00:08] <MAxou> brompt yes
[00:08] <sam_vimes> just connect a folder to ftp, and any editor works
[00:08] <anheru> MAxou: netbeans
[00:09] <bprompt> hmm
[00:09] <sam_vimes> I use geany on my ftp php server. but yeah netbeans too...but its an ide, not a text editor
[00:09] <bprompt> MAxou:   I've used Kate before, but the ftp app provided the session file with autenthication and all, and Kate would edit it, pressking Save or ctrl-s, will send it up the ftp channel
[00:11] <sam_vimes> MAxou,  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CurlFtpFS
[00:13] <bprompt> MAxou:   but I think that's an ftp client app feature you may be seeking, not an editor's per se, that the ftp client opens the file, authenticates the piping channel, and then an editor picks that up and edits it, keeping a communication open with the ftp client
[00:13] <MAxou> I want same thing than in my notepad++ :/
[00:14] <sam_vimes> MAxou follow my guide, use literarly any editor
[00:14] <glsmaxx> is there a way to just have icons on the window buttons on my panel? is Ubuntu-Mate
[00:14] <bprompt> MAxou:    "same thing" meaning?
[00:14] <MAxou> i can see my ftp folder double clik on a file edit it and when i save it it's automatically upload !
[00:14] <bprompt> MAxou:   does notepad++ opens the ftp connection to the file?
[00:15] <bprompt> open rather
[00:15] <MAxou> there is a button to connect
[00:15] <MAxou> before I fill the ftp information
[00:15] <sam_vimes> if you mount the ftp folder, you just edit a file, click save and it auto-uploads to the server. You don't even ened to press "upload to ftp", you just follow the guide once. And anything in the folder is auto-uploaded
[00:15] <bprompt> ok...then it does.... possibly a plugin
[00:15] <MAxou> yeah the plugin is nppftp
[00:16] <anheru> I'm looking for help with WiFi problems (14.04 lts, atheros qca9565) script restult: pastebin.ubuntu.com/13482342/  syslogs: pastebin.ubuntu.com/13483294/
[00:16] <MAxou> ok sam
[00:16] <bprompt> sam_vimes:    I don't think he/she is hosting the file, just trying to access it for editing as a client
[00:16] <glsmaxx> ?
[00:17] <MAxou> brompt yeah I dont hosting the ftp !
[00:17] <MAxou> it's on my webserver
[00:17] <bprompt> right
[00:17] <sam_vimes> he has a ftp folder, where he edits files, constant access to it would be easier. :)
[00:17] <bprompt> MAxou:   as i said.. I"ve done it before, with Kate and an ftp app
[00:17] <MAxou> yeah would be nice
[00:17] <sam_vimes> I've set it up for a few guis for my server, so that they don't mess things up. just open the folder I say and work in it
[00:17] <sam_vimes> *guys
[00:18] <MAxou> same_vimes your way seems nice
[00:20] <MAxou> hell I see your page sam_vimes it's 2 line codes but I can't adapt it to me lol :D
[00:20] <MAxou> USE YOU RBAIN MAXOU !
[00:20] <sam_vimes> the arch wiki?
[00:20] <sam_vimes> CurlFtpFS is in the ubuntu repo too :). just do "apt-get install CurlFtpFS"
[00:21] <sam_vimes> or aptitude, whatever floats your boat.
[00:21] <matthew> Hello
[00:22] <FireBeyond> In Ubuntu 14.04, Intel I350 dual port card, both ports show up with same MAC
[00:22] <bprompt> MAxou:    actually, that'd work peachy, and you can run any editor you like =)
[00:23] <Ira_L__> Is there anyone around who has dual booted into a windows 10 machine with uemi?
[00:23] <daftykins> UEFI
[00:23] <Euge> thanks for the help :)
[00:23] <Ira_L__> yws uefi
[00:23] <sam_vimes> yeah, it was smooth. Just remember to install Ubuntu via the UEFI mount, not the legacy.
[00:23] <daftykins> where are you stuck exactly?
[00:24] <daftykins> Ira_L__: ^
[00:24] <Euge> good afternoon ! or morning wherever you guys are :) bye
[00:24] <sam_vimes> (you get both options when you boot from the usb)
[00:24] <Ira_L__> I have an HP ENVY allinone
[00:24] <daftykins> Ira_L__: just the issue on one line would be good
[00:25] <Ira_L__> installs puts up grup boot into windows lose grub on AMI bios boot menu says ubuntu not a valid boot partition
[00:26] <daftykins> nope i didn't understand a word of that
[00:26] <sam_vimes> Ira_L__, if you installed Ubuntu in UEFI mode (super important that you did that) and get that error, try this tool https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:26] <sam_vimes> it can be installed on the ubuntu live USB
[00:27] <monkeywithamohaw> ubuntu server 14.04(noob)(installed tomcat 7.0.52 using apt-get)(package created tomcat7 user) how can I login as tomcat7 with ssh? (currently not allowed for some reason)... I've been banging my head against the google wall for over an hour... Would anyone be able to help me?
[00:28] <daftykins> monkeywithamohaw: what do you hope to achieve SSHingin as that user?
[00:28] <MAxou> sam_vimes : Error connecting to ftp
[00:29] <monkeywithamohaw> I can use winscp to move files into the webapp directory
[00:29] <monkeywithamohaw> without changing file permissions
[00:29] <daftykins> monkeywithamohaw: create a group, add your user and tomcat7 to that group, own the path as user:group ; then any files you put in will work fine
[00:30] <sam_vimes> MAxou, you sure you followed the guide correctly? and gave yourself access rights?
[00:30] <sam_vimes> your error seems to be with FPT username, link og password. not setup. (seems)
[00:31] <orangerobot> does anyone know of a way to install qt3 on ubuntu 14?
[00:31] <drakon-mrt> hi
[00:31] <MAxou> I try just Mount FTP folder as normal user
[00:31] <MAxou> should i do it as root ?
[00:32] <daftykins> no
[00:32] <maxtimbo> I cannot, for the life of me, seem to get rid of a certain ppa: W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/java/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/binary-i386/Packages
[00:32] <maxtimbo> I have tried ppa-purge and removing it from software & updates gui
[00:32] <sam_vimes> never, ever mount FTP as root MAxou
[00:33] <monkeywithamohaw> I have a user done that but as I am copying files from another server some of the subdirectories gave group only read permission(for security) there are 1000s of file and 100s of subfolders from legacy
[00:33] <daftykins> or use FTP in 2015 *cough*
[00:33] <MAxou> ok so I do well
[00:34] <user> test
[00:34] <MAxou> mkdir ~/my-server
[00:34] <MAxou> curlftpfs -o ssl,utf8<EMAIL_ADDRESS>~/my-server
[00:34] <monkeywithamohaw> I am not sure about why this was done this way by other admin who setup original file structures
[00:35] <Bashing-om> MAxou: Yep .. that is a fact .. that repo for wily does not exist .. see: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/java/ubuntu/dists/ .
[00:36] <daftykins> monkeywithamohaw: so scp the files over as another user, move them into place, then chown them - the permissions will be retained, only ownership needs to move
[00:36] <monkeywithamohaw> I would just add write to all subfolders... but then not sure if I'm going to mess something up when I remove the g-w from all subfolders if this would cause an issue
[00:36] <daftykins> so why not test...
[00:36] <daftykins> everything can be undone
[00:37] <MAxou> Bashing-om dont understand sorry
[00:38] <Bashing-om> MAxou: Sorry .. mistab .. should not have highlighted you .. apology in order .
[00:38] <Bashing-om> maxtimbo: Yep .. that is a fact .. that repo for wily does not exist .. see: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ferramroberto/java/ubuntu/dists/ .
[00:39] <maxtimbo> Bashing-om, ok, how do I remove the ppa
[00:40] <MAxou> np
[00:41] <Bashing-om> maxtimbo: There is no current supported release " 21-May-2011 08:06 " I am hesitant to say a means .
[00:41] <bazhang> !ppa-purge
[00:41] <maxtimbo> bazhang, tried that already
[00:41] <OsmiumTrees> I'm trying to dual boot windows 7 with linux mint 17.2. It looks like windows is using 3 partitions. one for the OS, one for recovery, and a ~40mb one that is flagged as "diag". It looks like linux requires 4 partitions. GParted won't let me create more than 4 primary partitions. Can/should I make 4 logical partitions for linux  on an extended partition?
[00:42] <bazhang> OsmiumTrees, ask mintsupport then
[00:42] <OsmiumTrees> will do
[00:42] <bazhang> they are on spotchat irc
[00:43] <bprompt> OsmiumTrees:    on a bios-mbr formatted hdd, 4 primary partitions, is all you get, or you could do 3 primaries and 1 extended with a bunch of logicals, thus, so you could just hose one partition for the other installation
[00:44] <monkeywithamohaw> daftykins:Thank you for your suggestions! is tomcat7 user created this way to meet a bestpractice security guidline?
[00:44] <MAxou> sam_vimes ok I find a way more easy ^^ in Nautilus File/connect to a server :D
[00:45] <bprompt> MAxou:   yet another easier way, driver over to the file server location, and do it right there :D!!!   maybe not
[00:46] <sam_vimes> good MAxou , you can certanly use nautiluses. But it won't stay on after reboot and is slightly slower. if you want it to stay there you can map the ftp folder in nautilus and put it in favorites
[00:46] <sam_vimes> I don't use nautilus, mine can't do that ):
[00:46] <sam_vimes> or ..just add it to bookmarks I think works
[00:48] <Bashing-om> maxtimbo: Maybe and only as a maybe ' sudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:ferramroberto/java ' or somewhat similar  (???) .
[00:48] <maxtimbo> Bashing-om, tried that also
[00:49] <clupus> Hello guys. I'm using Xubuntu and I want to install the gnome interface. Which  package should I install ? gnome-desktop ? gnome-shell ?
[00:49] <bazhang> gnome-shell for that, unity for the gnome3 unity shell
[00:50] <MAxou> I need to add the folder in favorite because when i reboot he will disapear ?
[00:50] <bazhang> ubuntu-desktop will bring unity
[00:51] <bprompt> maxtimbo:    well, just hop over to /etc/apt   and check there where it's at, and remove it :), will be either in sources.list.d  as a file, or in sources.list file and you can remove its entry from there
[00:54] <maxtimbo> bprompt, thats what i'm doing now. they are staying persistant after sudo rm command
[00:55] <daftykins> monkeywithamohaw: you'd have to ask a tomcat channel that one i think :) i've no idea
[00:59] <maxtimbo> bprompt, Bashing-om , bazhang I got the ppas removed by: cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d then sudo rm -i "ppa"
[00:59] <maxtimbo> thanks for the help
[01:00] <maxtimbo> been bugging me for a while now
[01:06] <the_count> Bashing-om: Booted up 15.10; multitouch features worked fine but the mouse cursor was unstable as it was in 3.13, so I'll need to research into seeign weather that is something which can be easily fixed
[01:07] <Bashing-om> the_count: :(
[01:09] <the_count> Bashing-om: So, my best guess is that something in updating the kernel messes things up... Not altogether sure though, hopefully they have this worked out by now
[01:11] <HadesWatch3r1> I can install Ubuntu 15.10 from the live DVD, even use the live dvd ... but after install and reboot I get Ignoring BGRT: invalid status 0 (expected 1)
[01:11] <HadesWatch3r1> and I am unable to get past it.
[01:15] <RaizQuadrada> hey guys
[01:15] <HadesWatch3r1> Hello.
[01:20] <B4sh> Anyone know how to enable zip on VPS I'm getting this Error: slider_export.txt does not exist!
[01:25] <puff> I have a thinkpad t520 with ubuntu 14.04 LTS.  I've installed skype from the canonical partners repo, the audio works but my built-in webcam doesn't.  Any clues?
[01:32] <Ira_> Did I understand correctly that when installing ubuntu dual boot (grub2) in windows 10 with boot repair I should leave UEFI on?????
[01:36] <Nick714> Hello, so I am trying to setup internet on my Ubuntu Server via command line. So I know my internet card works and is all setup, I am just having issues connecting to my internet.
[01:36] <Ira_> Is there anyone who has dual booted with windows 10 and ubuntu and boot repair around>?
[01:36] <Nick714> I am following this post, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188. And when i do "dhclient wlan0" it just has a blinking underscore and does nothing. Anyone know whats wrong please?
[01:37] <daftykins> Nick714: sounds like it's not even associated with the AP
[01:37] <daftykins> maybe give yourself an easy time by using nm-cli
[01:39] <Nick714> daftykins: Oh hey :). Okay, I saw that somewhere. I figured I would try it the regular way first (because Im lazy to plug in ethernet hah) so after I stall it do you know the command to join internet or a post exaplning it?
[01:39] <Nick714> I still have to sudo install network-manager for it which requires ethernet
[01:39] <Ira_> @daftykins did you say I should leave uefi on>>???
[01:41] <daftykins> Nick714: no, i've never been as masochistic as to do CLI wireless
[01:41] <daftykins> Ira_: you have to if your Windows installation was done using EFI
[01:41] <Nick714> Ok thanks I will try to figure it out using network-manager
[01:42] <daftykins> well, nm-cli ;)
[01:42] <Ira_> ok thanks
[01:42] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[01:43] <OerHeks> and more fun https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConfigurationCommandLine/Automatic#Configure_your_wireless_interface
[01:49] <grandy> hello, struggling to install ubuntu via UEFI on a skylake Z170 motherboard... freezes a bit into the boot of the try ubuntu load
[01:50] <grandy> anyone have advice or know of a trick to get it to load/boot properly? previously using no usbperipherals made it sometimes work.
[01:50] <grandy> but that was the H110 motherboard I returned, thinking the Z170 would have better support... but I might just be doing something stupid...
[01:50] <grandy> trying to install 15.10
[01:50] <grandy> 64 bit
[01:51] <daftykins> check for the latest BIOS
[01:51] <daftykins> you're an early adopter, so you get to experience all the issues :)
[01:55] <grandy> daftykins: i hadn't realized how new it was :(
[01:55] <grandy> daftykins: it's weird that it won't even boot, the stuff i read when googling indicated that all but the odd sound driver works fine
[01:57] <daftykins> grandy: i take it this flash drive works fine elsewhere? on another system?
[01:58] <grandy> daftykins: yes, the 14 lts version i installed first does, i'd installed several other older systems with it
[01:58] <grandy> trying 15.10 for the first time on the new hardware, but 99% sure the drive and iso load are fine
[01:58] <daftykins> i really mean the downloaded 15.10 that's on it, can you boot on another system to be 100%?
[01:58] <seg> what's the name of that really keen mechanism that ubuntu/xubuntu use to handle the prtscrn button for screenshots?
[01:59] <seg> the one with the fancy upload options and the screen that pops up in response to the keypress
[02:00] <oozo> alt+1
[02:00] <daftykins> someone mentioned 'greenshot' the other day
[02:01] <seg> daftykins, that's not it, but that's a pretty cool tool. it lets you grab areas of your workspace easy it looks like.
[02:01] <daftykins> i know you were after something else, i just remembered that
[02:01] <seg> hm, i'll look through the repos. Thanks for showing me that though daftykins .
[02:04] <seg> ah, the one I was thinking of is actually xubuntu exclusive, xfce4-screenshooter in the xfce4-goodies package. Thanks for the help.
[02:04] <allcode> hi dedim
[02:04] <daftykins> grandy: so, you checked you're on the latest BIOS?
[02:05] <daftykins> grandy: what i would do, is install from the mini.iso of 15.10 then try putting a newer kernel on - from !mainline - then install the desktop afterwards
[02:06] <owen1>   /CLOSE
[02:10] <B4sh> anyone know how i can go about installing "ZipArchive extension is not enabled."
[02:12] <daftykins> B4sh: can you give us a clue about what you're trying to do?
[02:12] <B4sh> I'm trying to import revolutionary sliders
[02:12] <B4sh> and i get that error
[02:13] <daftykins> i have no idea what that even is
[02:13] <B4sh> its a plugin for wp
[02:13] <daftykins> wordpress? ok
[02:13] <daftykins> so you're trying to unzip the plugin zip via SSH?
[02:13] <daftykins> just use "unzip"
[02:14] <B4sh> apt-get install unzip
[02:14] <B4sh> Reading package lists... Done
[02:14] <B4sh> already did still get the error
[02:14] <daftykins> what are you typing specifically?
[02:14] <B4sh> for when
[02:16] <daftykins> B4sh: to unzip the zip archive...
[02:16] <B4sh> I'm installing it on the dashboard of wordpress
[02:16] <B4sh> using that interface to upload the zip
[02:16] <B4sh> and get returned with that error
[02:17] <daftykins> B4sh: ok, so nothing to do with ubuntu then... check the zip is ok, then maybe just upload it via SCP instead
[02:17] <Opcode90> Hi, im working on trying to get sound to work in ubuntu new install in vmware
[02:18] <Opcode90> might need some help soon but let ya know if your up to it
[02:24] <Opcode90> Ok, for starters i have a unique situation with sound, my onboard sound stopped working
[02:24] <Opcode90> so now i use an extern tiny little usb plugin that seems to do great
[02:25] <Opcode90> and my vmware see is, but hear nothing yet
[02:25] <Opcode90> now
[02:25] <Opcode90> Im brand new to ubuntu
[02:25] <Opcode90> but i popped this command in
[02:26] <Opcode90> sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install pavucontrol linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils lightdm ubuntu-desktop  linux-image-`uname -r` libasound2; sudo apt-get -y --reinstall install linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils lightdm ubuntu-desktop  linux-image-`uname -r` libasound2; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*; ubuntu-support-status; sudo usermod -aG `cat
[02:26] <Opcode90> /etc/group | grep -e '^pulse:' -e '^audio:' -e '^pulse-access:' -e '^pulse-rt:' -e '^video:' | awk -F: '{print $1}' | tr '\n' ',' | sed 's:,$::g'` `whoami`
[02:26] <Opcode90> and.....................
[02:26] <Opcode90> its like doing a million things updates or something
[02:26] <seg> Opcode90, did you do the whole vmware extras rigamarole for usb2.0 support?
[02:27] <daftykins> USB 2 hassles sounds more like virtualbox
[02:27] <Opcode90> Usb works, And Cd works
[02:27] <seg> woops your right, I confused thw two. carry on!
[02:27] <adri_> hi
[02:27] <adri_> Hi
[02:27] <Opcode90> I own Vmware Workstation 12 Pro, i bought for 249 bux, but serves many purposes for me
[02:28] <Opcode90> including learning Ubuntu and Debian
[02:28] <kleesiger> Opcode90: sounds good
[02:28] <Opcode90> can you guys read that command up there and tell me what you think it might be doing
[02:28] <somsip> Opcode90: if you are learning, don't go copying and pasting long, complicated commands that you do not understand
[02:29] <somsip> Opcode90: break it down into single commands and try to understand them that way
[02:29] <Opcode90> well it is vmware,i can reinstall it not hurt anything
[02:29] <somsip> Opcode90: it's not the best approach to learning - simple as that
[02:29] <Opcode90> takes about 15 mins i can start over
[02:29] <Opcode90> you are right
[02:30] <austinprog> Hello, I am experiencing a problem with my audio. I am getting no sound from anything on the computer. However, when I do the sound test for my headphones I get sound back. But when I unplug it and do a sound test, nothing. Also, even with the headphones on I get no sound from youtube or anything. I have no idea waht I did, sound was working fine for the most part of today.
[02:30] <daftykins> Opcode90: sounds like you need to discover snapshots ;)
[02:31] <Opcode90> snapshots in vmware? or in ubuntu, snapshots take a pic of a working install like a backup right
[02:31] <daftykins> vmware. yes.
[02:32] <Opcode90> i just installed it so to experimental to snapshot yet
[02:32] <Opcode90> not to mention i had to mound my cd drive?
[02:32] <daftykins> sorry that sentence doesn't make sense
[02:32] <Opcode90> that was weird for me and a cd definatly has to be in the drive to do it
[02:33] <daftykins> no idea what you'd be using optical media for
[02:33] <Opcode90> mound = mount
[02:33] <Opcode90> you are saying that with ubuntu very little comes on optical media?
[02:34] <Opcode90> still i wanted access to all my peripherals, cd, usb, sound
[02:34] <Opcode90> later printer but least on the list
[02:34] <kleesiger> Opcode90: printer ahhh
[02:35] <Opcode90> I gotta tell ya all that sudo apt-get   wowow
[02:35] <Opcode90> no navigating sites to find what ya need so much
[02:36] <Opcode90> i love it already
[02:36] <kleesiger> Hardware can be pain sometimes
[02:36] <gzcwnk> anybody suggest a synthetic  disk io generator?
[02:37] <Opcode90> forgive me if i sound stupid because i am you might say its my first day for real.
[02:37] <kleesiger> Any other distros Opcode90
[02:38] <Bashing-om> Opcode90: It's that orange glow , welcome to open source .. we all  had it .
 You heard me nigger
[02:38] <grandy> daftykins: going to verify the bios version on this mobo
[02:38] <gzcwnk> taht isnt very nice
[02:38] <Opcode90> just the lastest one I got straight from the Official Site x86 but i am going to install the x64
[02:38] <Opcode90> next
[02:38] <grandy> daftykins: didn't realize there was a mini iso...
[02:38] <kleesiger> Synthetic disk. What
[02:38] <daftykins> !mini | grandy sure is
[02:39] <grandy> ahh
[02:39] <kleesiger> gzcwnk:
[02:39] <gzcwnk> i really object to anyone calling someone a nigger kleesiger
[02:39] <daftykins> grandy: it'll let you install CLI only
[02:39] <grandy> daftykins: ahh ok
[02:39] <daftykins> i don't think it supports EFI installs though, hmm
[02:39] <Opcode90> Ive downloaded both the x86 and the x64
[02:39] <daftykins> you might have to do server
[02:40] <gzcwnk> or a coon
[02:40] <grandy> daftykins: ahh, do you think server is more likely to support uefi and skylake?
[02:40] <Opcode90> Both are about the same size 1 gig
[02:41] <Opcode90> I refuse Racism period.
[02:41] <daftykins> grandy: actually, lets back up further - did you get far enough to install or does it die too quick?
[02:41] <daftykins> Opcode90: that's off topic, no random chat in here thanks
 Okay calm down you coon
 What's you people wanna be called today by us whites
[02:41] <Opcode90> must be someone you have on ignore
[02:41] <daftykins> !ops
[02:42] <grandy> daftykins:  it doesn't get to the beginning of the install, it doesn't fully boot linux at all, just shows the graphical splash screen then switches back to text mode and then soon dies
[02:42] <Opcode90> ill stay on topic
[02:42] <MrCeeIII> how do you search for other channels?
[02:42] <grandy> daftykins: going to try one more boot real quick
[02:42] <daftykins> !alis | MrCeeIII ask in #freenode in future please
[02:42] <gzcwnk> i asked an honest q
[02:42] <MrCeeIII> join #freenode
[02:42] <Opcode90> but yes both distrubutions x86 and x64 which they call AMD64 are almost excactly the same 1 gig size
[02:42] <MrCeeIII> how?
[02:42] <daftykins> grandy: ok, yeah install server so it's pure CLI then you can install desktop after
[02:43] <gzcwnk> huh?
[02:43] <daftykins> MrCeeIII: you need a leading / for commands
[02:45] <Opcode90> what surprises me and this is off topic is that the offical debian is about 280 mbs, but on torrent its 3 full dvd's almost 4 gig in size eac
[02:45] <genii> gzcwnk: If you have an issue with another user, do not paste the contents of conversations into this channel. Come instead to #ubuntu-ops and report it so action may be taken
[02:45] <daftykins> Opcode90: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[02:45] <daftykins> Opcode90: and obviously, because it comes with more software that way
[02:45] <Opcode90> im hear to ask for audio help with ubuntu
[02:46] <Opcode90> please people stop telling me im in the wrong place.
[02:46] <Opcode90> i know where I'm at
[02:46] <gzcwnk> ah ok
[02:46] <gzcwnk> i didnt know that
[02:46] <daftykins> Opcode90: i'm talking about the irrelevant debian comments, THOSE are off topic.
[02:47] <gzcwnk> sorry
[02:47] <daftykins> gzcwnk: your username is not Opcode90...
[02:47] <Opcode90> so not a single phrase or word off topic
[02:47] <daftykins> Opcode90: spend less time fighting channel rules and more being patient for assistance / asking appropriate questions :)
[02:48] <Opcode90> i mentioned it because someone else mentioned there was a mini ubuntu size
[02:48] <Opcode90> to me it was relevant to the convo
[02:48] <Opcode90> sorry if it didnt fit your ego
[02:49] <blazeme8> what’s the proper terminology for things like /dev/sda, /dev/sdb1, etc? “drive devices”?
[02:49] <daftykins> Opcode90: there is nothing personal here, it's just a support channel is all - please realise that.
[02:49] <daftykins> no need to get all offensive :)
[02:49] <daftykins> blazeme8: block devices
[02:49] <blazeme8> daftykins: that’s it! thanks :)
[02:50] <Bashing-om> blazeme8: sd - Serial Device as sda =a is the 1st device recognized, sda1 where the 1 is the 1st partition sdb3 is the 3rd partition on the 2nd hard drive .
[02:50] <Opcode90> best not to say anything at all until theres specific ubuntu question
[02:51] <blazeme8> Hmmm. Good answer too Bashing-om, thanks :)
[02:51] <Opcode90> thats my take on most freenode rooms
[02:52] <austinprog> Sound still not working red light on headphone jack?
[02:54] <deskwizard> Good evening!
[02:54] <deskwizard> I have a question for you guys... I bet one of you can point me in the right direction
[02:55] <genii> !details | deskwizard
[02:55] <deskwizard> basically, I get a kernel panic on boot if my raid card is plugged in on 15.10.
[02:56] <deskwizard> all goes well if it is not, all is well on 14.04 and 15.04
[02:56] <daftykins> LTS sounds good :)
[02:56] <deskwizard> so that let me to believe its related to a kernel version > 4
[02:56] <daftykins> compare the modules in use perhaps
[02:57] <deskwizard> my question is, where do I report this for having it taken care of for 16.04 :P
[02:57] <daftykins> !bug
[02:57] <daftykins> you're going to need a lot more specific info than that though
[02:58] <daftykins> bear in mind 14.04 is still good 'til 2019, so unless you're a dev chasing software versions - bigger numbers don't always mean better
[02:58] <deskwizard> 2019 uh...
[02:58] <deskwizard> well, I guess that's one thing solved lol
[02:59] <genii> Sounds like some driver for your raid card may not be loaded in the initrd of 15.10
[02:59] <deskwizard> genii, actually I think the issue is when they load
[02:59] <deskwizard> cause its clearly 'megasas' causing the kernel panic
[02:59] <deskwizard> well. as far as i can tell
[03:00] <rachel_> hello
[03:01] <deskwizard> genii, not having the module loaded would just not make it work, correct? or can it cause IRC issues?
[03:01] <deskwizard> ....
[03:01] <deskwizard> IRQ issues for the computer
[03:01] <deskwizard> im the one with irc issues
[03:01] <Hatsune_Miku> hi
[03:01] <deskwizard> Hi
[03:01] <Hatsune_Miku> whats up
[03:02] <Hatsune_Miku> your not a bot right
[03:02] <deskwizard> Well, I don't think so
[03:02] <Hatsune_Miku> just checking
[03:02] <deskwizard> doesnt help does it :P
[03:02] <deskwizard> lol
[03:02] <daftykins> Hatsune_Miku: do you have an Ubuntu suppoer question?
[03:02] <daftykins> support too
[03:02] <Hatsune_Miku> no
[03:02] <daftykins> !ot
[03:02] <deskwizard> nah i'm not, not sure how helpful I can be though :P
[03:03] <Hatsune_Miku> i can try to help people with ubunto
[03:03] <Hatsune_Miku> tu
[03:04] <Hatsune_Miku> i take it you must use linux
[03:04] <Hatsune_Miku> deskwizard
[03:04] <Hatsune_Miku> you there
[03:04] <deskwizard> yep
[03:04] <Hatsune_Miku> thx
[03:04] <Hatsune_Miku> you must use linux
[03:04] <Hatsune_Miku> ?
[03:04] <deskwizard> yes I Do
[03:04] <Hatsune_Miku> cool
[03:04] <Hatsune_Miku> just got linux today to program on
[03:05] <daftykins> Hatsune_Miku: take the chat to -offtopic please
[03:05] <Hatsune_Miku> deskwizard we need to move to offtopic
[03:06] <deskwizard> daftykins, that bug report filing, how can I know what package name to use ?
[03:06] <daftykins> deskwizard: well you'd need more info, but likely you'll want to file against linux-generic - i don't really know
[03:06] <Hatsune_Miku> whats the question i zoned out
[03:07] <deskwizard> daftykins, alright, I was wondering if the drivers had like a kernel-drivers package or something
[03:07] <MrCeeIII> how can i get WoW to work better on ubuntu
[03:07] <deskwizard> thanks for your help
[03:07] <Hatsune_Miku> hmm
[03:07] <Hatsune_Miku> did you try to add more ram?
[03:07] <Hatsune_Miku> XD
[03:07] <MrCeeIII> no...
[03:07] <Opcode90> funny thing is, most solutions i find are from google, and all i get from rooms like this and any other vmware room is flack
[03:07] <MrCeeIII> mother board can only support 4 gigs
[03:08] <Opcode90> id be bettr off without chat
[03:08] <Hatsune_Miku> you must have four gigs in there than?
[03:08] <MrCeeIII> i have 4 but my ubuntu only reckos 3
[03:08] <daftykins> sounds like you installed 32-bit on a 64-bit PC
[03:08] <Hatsune_Miku> thats weird, are you running a 32 bit version of unix
[03:09] <daftykins> this is not unix.
[03:09] <Hatsune_Miku> sorry wrong name
[03:09] <Hatsune_Miku> thats what we call it at my house
[03:09] <Hatsune_Miku> i know its wrong
[03:09] <Opcode90> I've personaly installed 32 and 64 versions of evry MS OS, and the same with linux
[03:09] <MrCeeIII> no it came with 32 bit windows i loaded 64 bit
[03:09] <MrCeeIII> Ubuntu
[03:09] <Hatsune_Miku> ok
[03:10] <MrCeeIII> but still does not reco the 4 gigs
[03:10] <Hatsune_Miku> i wonder why it only sees 3 gigs in the computer
[03:10] <Hatsune_Miku> what chips do you have it is 2gigX2?
[03:10] <daftykins> sounds like onboard graphics taking some, or a misunderstanding.
[03:10] <MrCeeIII> i am on a gateway p-6831fx
[03:10] <Hatsune_Miku> ok
[03:10] <Opcode90> 32 Bit Ubuntu cant read past 8 gigs
[03:10] <Opcode90> the minimum is 512mb
[03:10] <somsip> !pae
[03:10] <daftykins> Hatsune_Miku: please don't try to help when you don't understand.
[03:10] <MrCeeIII> it has a nvidia 8800 i think
[03:11] <MrCeeIII> gtx 8800
[03:11] <Opcode90> the recommended is 1024mb
[03:11] <Hatsune_Miku> but this person does not have 8gigs they have 4 and it shows 3
[03:12] <Opcode90> IF a PC came with 32 bit Windows, you sure it has a 64 bit processor?
[03:12] <Hatsune_Miku> why would it come with 32 bit windows why would it have a X64 based processor
[03:13] <Hatsune_Miku> dang this keyboard sucks
[03:13] <Opcode90> exactly and why would you try to put AMD64 ubuntu on a that
[03:13] <MrCeeIII> not sure if it has a 64 bit processor
[03:13] <Opcode90> AMD64 Ubuntu means Inetle 65 to
[03:13] <Hatsune_Miku> case in point if it is a 32 bit processor dont load X64 bit
[03:13] <Opcode90> 64 rather
[03:14] <somsip> Hatsune_Miku: cat /proc/cpuinfo and check
[03:14] <Opcode90> If your PC came with a 32 Bit Windows Operating System
[03:14] <MrCeeIII> how can i tell if the processor is 32/64 bit?
[03:14] <Opcode90> ya check tht out
[03:14] <somsip> MrCeeIII: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' in a terminal
[03:15] <Hatsune_Miku> it does not make sense for them to load 32 bit windows and put a 64 bit processor, it is most likely 32 bit
[03:15] <somsip> Hatsune_Miku: it does not make sense to debate it when it can easily be checked
[03:16] <Hatsune_Miku> what did it report 64 or 32 bit?
[03:16] <MrCeeIII> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13487531/
[03:16] <somsip> MrCeeIII: 64bit http://ark.intel.com/products/30787/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-T5450-2M-Cache-1_66-GHz-667-MHz-FSB
[03:16] <Hatsune_Miku> so it is a 64 bit processor
[03:17] <Hatsune_Miku> somsip: hello
[03:17] <somsip> !pm | Hatsune_Miku (yes, it is)
[03:18] <Opcode90> as a side note anyonen have a good mp3player get command for me
[03:18] <Opcode90> to test sound with
[03:18] <Hatsune_Miku> sorry dont know anything about that
[03:18] <somsip> !info asound | Opcode90 (as simple as they get)
[03:19] <somsip> !find asound
[03:19] <Opcode90> or a simple way to configure sound in ubunta
[03:19] <Hatsune_Miku> i will keep that in mind to help someone else
[03:19] <MrCeeIII> see cant go with what they loaded
[03:19] <somsip> Opcode90: asound is usefl for simple testing
[03:19] <Opcode90> ty ill lookk up asound
[03:19] <Hatsune_Miku> what is the command to launch terminal, forgot
[03:19] <MrCeeIII> i love linux
[03:20] <Hatsune_Miku> so do I
[03:20] <MrCeeIII> there is a command for everything...
[03:20] <Hatsune_Miku> thats the truth
[03:21] <MrCeeIII> ok so back to the drawing board... 64 bit ubuntu only recos 3 gigs... anyone?
[03:21] <Hatsune_Miku> could a file for recognition be corrupt?
[03:21] <somsip> MrCeeIII: paste the output of free -h
[03:22] <MrCeeIII> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13487691/
[03:22] <Hatsune_Miku> tried that command just noticed my computer is doing the same thing only recognizing 3 gigs i am 64 bit please help.
[03:23] <MrCeeIII> do you think reseating?
[03:23] <somsip> MrCeeIII: and paste uname -a
[03:24] <MrCeeIII> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13487725/
[03:26] <somsip> MrCeeIII: you may need to run a memtest to make sure it's not hardware then
[03:26] <KaosCreator> 1
[03:26] <MrCeeIII> somsip: how too?
[03:26] <somsip> !memtest | MrCeeIII
[03:26] <Hatsune_Miku> yea i have a computer with 4 gigs and 64 bit only reading 3 please help me
[03:27] <MrCeeIII> command not found
[03:27] <Hatsune_Miku> just checked
[03:27] <somsip> !testing | MrCeeIII
[03:27] <MrCeeIII> somsip:  (!memtest) ?
[03:28] <somsip> MrCeeIII:  use the packages memtest86+ (for emory, can be started from the !GRUB boot menu
[03:28] <MrCeeIII> ok you lost me
[03:28] <MrCeeIII> download memtest from the software center?
[03:28] <somsip> MrCeeIII: reboot, at the grub menu select memtest instead of booting into Ubuntu
[03:28] <MrCeeIII> i dont get a grub menu
[03:29] <Hatsune_Miku> is it autoboot?
[03:29] <MrCeeIII> are you talking bios
[03:29] <Hatsune_Miku> no
[03:29] <Hatsune_Miku> its a menu that comes up when you boot up the computer
[03:29] <Hatsune_Miku> gives you options to do certain things
[03:29] <MrCeeIII> i dont get a menu it boots to ubuntu
[03:30] <Hatsune_Miku> i wonder if its autoboot
[03:30] <Hatsune_Miku> anyone?
[03:30] <MrCeeIII> i can get into the bios
[03:30] <somsip> MrCeeIII: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16042/how-to-get-to-the-grub-menu-at-boot-time
[03:30] <MrCeeIII> ok thanks all
[03:30] <Hatsune_Miku> your welcome
[03:32] <Hatsune_Miku> gotta go, bye everyone
[03:35] <AnakinSky> hello guys :)
[03:46] <poCS> nobody chat?
[03:46] <nuser> helloo
[03:46] <poCS> just go in and out?
[03:46] <poCS> oh hello
[03:47] <MAxou> my ubuntu just crash ..
[03:47] <nuser> Ive never used irc befor so just trying things out
[03:47] <poCS> im new to irc, and im now confused
[03:48] <Opcode90> GOd only knows what ive done to my install, im starting over
[03:48] <somsip> !ot | nuser poCS
[03:48] <MAxou> i lunch a reboot of my ubuntu desktop and now i have a blackscreen with General error mounting filesystems and nothing else since 5 min.. should i restart the computer manually ?
[03:50] <Bashing-om> !sysrq | MAxou
[03:50] <poCS> ubottu: roger that
[03:51] <poCS> !guidelines
[03:52] <AfterDarkness> hello, my media key's vol-up/down and mute stopped working after restarting pulseaudio
[03:52] <AfterDarkness> how do i fix that without restarting my pc?
[03:54] <Opcode90> Vmware has several options that must work in tandom with Ubuntu, one i didnt try was Realteak vitural Sound
[03:54] <Opcode90> may still ask for help with usb audio drivers later but doing a fresh install
[03:56] <Opcode90> i would try to be friendly and make small talk but i always get ostricized for for that
[03:57] <Opcode90> brb, ill find a side channel to bs in
[03:57] <Opcode90> so i wont interupt you guys
[03:58] <Opcode90> i do thank you for your help and patience
[04:38] <subzero> Does whole disk encryption affect the way the whole system works once logged in? I notice if I pause or stop something such as a download than try to resume it shows activity but no transfer. I also am very new so no sure if I even have the basics installed that I should have. But I had tried full disk encrypt and without before. And the way the system works seems confusing and different.
[04:39] <subzero> Can anybody let me know if there is something I can run to make sure everything is okay. And that all necessary and suggested apps or installed?
[04:42] <LinuxNoob> Anybody on Ubuntu 15.10 ?
[04:49] <bocephus_> any of you guys able to point me in the right direction for my virtual box not having the "Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908
[04:50] <bocephus_> wants me to run this but not sure where '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'
[04:50] <bocephus_> says the directory does not exist
[04:51] <SeriouslyLaugh> bocephus_ this sounds familiar, i had the same issue a few days back
[04:51] <SeriouslyLaugh> did you download the file from the website or via apt-get
[04:53] <bocephus_> I got the virtual box from the software center and downloaded the .iso from microsoft
[04:53] <SeriouslyLaugh> ok try downloading the file directly from the virtualbox website instead
[04:53] <bocephus_> im trying a quick RnR with virtual box
[04:53] <SeriouslyLaugh> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[04:53] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/41118/virtualbox-kernel-driver-not-installed
[04:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> i recall trying to download and install manually and having OK success with that
[04:54] <bocephus_> yep thats it.
[04:54] <SeriouslyLaugh> are you familiar with how to install  a deb file?
[04:55] <bocephus_> yea i probally needed to run that apt-get install dkms
[04:55] <bocephus_> to install a deb file.  Mostly yes but not hugely expereienced.
[04:55] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah try that first -- sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms
[04:55] <the_count> Bashing-om: How large of partitions do you maintain for your four backup linux installations, or what would be reccomended if say, i were to do it
[04:56] <SeriouslyLaugh> if that doesn't work, download the .deb for your system and run sudo dpkg -i *** where the *** is the file name
[04:56] <bocephus_> cool thanks man.  I will give it a shot.
[04:56] <SeriouslyLaugh> for example sudo dpkg -i ~/Downloads/virtualbox-5.0_5.0.10-104061~Ubuntu~precise_i386.deb
[04:56] <junobi> Hi
[04:57] <SeriouslyLaugh> note you may get errors bocephus_ -- if that happens, you must run sudo apt-get -f install
[04:57] <bocephus_> okay.
[04:57] <bocephus_> thanks again for  all your wisedom
[04:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> good luck, report back with questions
[04:58] <OerHeks> good start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[04:58] <SeriouslyLaugh> to find your ubuntu version, run lsb_release -a
[04:58] <bocephus_> will do.
[04:58] <OerHeks> but for that microsoft iso, join #virtualbox or ##windows
[04:59] <OerHeks> :-D
[05:15] <gzcwnk> :D
[05:26] <vetch> I'm looking to use ubuntu on a thumbdrive as a OS and I'm wondering if anyone has done this as a permenant computer solution and if anyone has any advice....
[05:27] <SeriouslyLaugh> vetch check this out: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence
[05:28] <SeriouslyLaugh> vetch this too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[05:28] <vetch> I have a set up of it going now (i'm on it right now) but it keeps prompting me to install it is there an advantage to this?
[05:29] <SeriouslyLaugh> i've not done this personally but I think you'll need two drives
[05:29] <SeriouslyLaugh> one live and one portable to install onto
[05:29] <SeriouslyLaugh> http://askubuntu.com/questions/397481/how-to-make-a-persistent-live-ubuntu-usb-with-more-than-4gb
[05:29] <SeriouslyLaugh> i may be wrong
[05:30] <vetch> right now I have it going on a 16gb usb2 I'm planning on going with a much larger drive and usb 3 right now I'm kinda in alpha test.  I'm also brand new to  unix
[05:31] <SeriouslyLaugh> alternatively you could dual boot, if you aren't ready to overwrite your current OS
[05:31] <SeriouslyLaugh> so when you power on your computer it'll ask you which operating system you would like to boot into each time
[05:31] <vetch> what I have is a work computer that is heavily locked down with "big brother" software.  I'm looking for a way around that
[05:32] <vetch> I travel for work and can't even get on facebook with the current set up and can't do a dual boot and don't want two computers
[05:32] <SeriouslyLaugh> yeah you could theoretically boot from a USB each time, into a 'personal' area
[05:32] <SeriouslyLaugh> depending on how the hardware is configured
[05:32] <gzcwnk> you could use a raspberry pi
[05:33] <gzcwnk> Id have a raspberry pi at home and ssh to it and vnc tunnel it back
[05:33] <gzcwnk> so then boot off a usb key
[05:34] <SeriouslyLaugh> vetch check out this tutorial: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[05:34] <SeriouslyLaugh> "f you use utilities like Unetbootin to create your Ubuntu installation media, you can also set a certain amount of “persistent” storage space. This will allow you to install extra applications and save some files that will remain whenever you reboot the system or use a different computer."
[05:34] <SeriouslyLaugh> "Another option is to make your installation media on a different drive, and then install Ubuntu normally as you would on one of your computer’s hard drives. However, instead of choosing one of those hard drives, you choose your USB flash drive instead as the installation destination."
[05:35] <vetch> yeah that sounds logical and then I can move up in size and go to usb3
[05:36] <TJ-> vetch: there are 2 methods: 1) install to the USB device just like to any fixed disk, or 2) create a 'split' install which partitions the device, puts the Live ISO image in 1 partition and has a persistent copy-on-write partition too, so any changes made are kept. I'd recommend (1) rather than (2) *unless* you also want to be able to install Ubuntu to other computers as well as having the persistent element
[05:37] <TJ-> vetch: With (2) also remember it is the 'Live ISO' environment, so the running root file-system is completely contained in RAM, so for PCs with limited RAM it can be restrictive.
[05:38] <vetch> thanks TJ 1 sounds like the way I want to go.  I already have a set up like 2 on the 16gb with 4 gigs dedicated to the persistent element.  What I'm looking for is a totaly "normal" os just run off a thumbdrive and portable
[05:38] <vetch> I've noticed some slow speed loads with libre office applications
[05:39] <TJ-> vetch: yeah, I prefer (1) and if you do want to have it possible to boot that with a Live ISO installer image you can simply install and use the package grub-imageboot
[05:39] <TJ-> !info grub-imageboot | vetch
[05:40] <TJ-> vetch: USB2 is definitely going to feel slow, relative to {SS,HD}D devices
[05:41] <vetch> yeah but so far I'm really happy with it.  I've been meaning to mess around with unix for years and I'm amazed at how fast it installed and even on usb2 how fast it boots
[05:41] <vetch> an entire os with an office package is less then 6 gigs
[05:41] <gzcwnk> yep
[05:42] <gzcwnk> put it on a raspberry pi, then all you need is a tv
[05:42] <SeriouslyLaugh> vetch and remember there are a billion different distributions for you to try. some will be faster or lighter than others.
[05:44] <vetch> well I picked ubuntu basicly at random but I'm happy with it so far
[05:45] <TJ-> A RasPi with a 105mm LCD touch panel and the entire thing is self-contained
[05:57] <kikero> Hey!\
[05:57] <kikero> I've tried running Android's avd emulator and then I tried running Genymotion.
[05:58] <kikero> I get the following error messages when trying to run both of them: "Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." and "Failed to obtain GLES 1.x extensions string!"
[05:58] <kikero> Any suggestion on how to fix this? :-)
[05:58] <kikero> this is 14.04 lts
[05:58] <kikero> thanks!
[05:58] <ompal99> command to check if remote machine is virtual or physical?
[06:03] <maxtimbo> I'm working on a real duesy. could use any help if anyone knows anything about it. Installing (reinstalling) printer drivers for lbp6030 Canon printer. What I've found so far: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1315665&page=4
[06:05] <subzero> Whats the best way to start learning command line with ubuntu?
[06:06] <maxtimbo> subzero, there are tons of bash tutorials out there
[06:07] <TJ-> subzero: "man bash" to get to know the shell's power
[06:07] <maxtimbo> you could also learn more by reading the man pages
[06:07] <subzero> Perfect, thats what I needed. Never even heard of that ty.
[06:08] <OerHeks> maxtimbo, that lbp6030 is not in the openprinting database http://www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/Canon/  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190
[06:10] <maxtimbo> OerHeks, yeah I know. you have to use the canon proprietary drivers. The issue is that the amd64 build has i386 dependencies
[06:10] <dimitry7> }guys,  from this command 0 5 28 * 1-6 /bin/command
[06:10] <dimitry7> it means if 28 falls on sunday, it won't be executed??
[06:11] <TJ-> maxtimbo: which release are you trying to build for?
[06:11] <maxtimbo> ubuntu 15.10 64bit, TJ-
[06:13] <TJ-> maxtimbo: you're trying it with v2.70 ?
[06:14] <maxtimbo> I'm using the latest release from cannon - v3.30, i believe
[06:15] <TJ-> maxtimbo: hmmm, where's the link for that? The latest CAPT I see is V2.70 dated 2015-09-04
[06:15] <ZcY> How to hide IP
[06:15] <TJ-> ZcY: disconnect from the Internet
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> lol
[06:16] <maxtimbo> TJ-, https://www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/details/printers/laser-single-function/imageclass/lbp6030w/!ut/p/z1/hY_dCoJAEEafpQeQGbS2vPSn0HALLWzbm9hCtwXbRK2gp2-NbiKquRu-M8z5gAMDrsVVSdGpsxaV2bec7GgaTaI4wGQ5s6fo0XWeUCd2MCOw-QdwE-OX8RDmT-DHvTGwGxpQCbwW3dFSujwDqxulu6JpgVWiLRqrVVpWhVVe9KE3B6ZOQhYHE_bIvibo4M3I8vd3mLlj9EhIInfhY5yOPoDcHxrADQPHnvXKL-BHo_rE7olXrmI5GDwAcr-MzA!!/dz/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/
[06:16] <ZcY> how to hide IP here
[06:16] <TJ-> ZcY: or do you mean not have it show here on IRC? In which case ask in the channel #freenode for a 'cloak'
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> ZcY: tor,proxy,socks,vpn
[06:16] <maxtimbo> ugh. sorry for the messy link
[06:16] <ZcY> yes
[06:17] <ZcY> do not show here on IRC
[06:17] <ZcY> i don't know how to do
[06:18] <maxtimbo> it says 1.2 on the website but the dl is 3.3
[06:18] <maxtimbo> gah what mess
[06:18] <TJ-> maxtimbo: you're looking under the 'Drivers' red tab?
[06:19] <TJ-> maxtimbo: the one I found is at http://support-au.canon.com.au/contents/AU/EN/0100459602.html
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> ZcY: type /join #freenode and ask wjat TJ- suggested
[06:20] <maxtimbo> TJ-, I think I found the right instructions. http://askubuntu.com/questions/251015/installing-canon-color-imageclass-mf8380cdw-drivers-in-ubuntu-12-10
[06:21] <ZcY> lotuspsychje thank you
[06:23] <TJ-> maxtimbo: the UFR file contains "64-bit_Driver/Debian/" directory with .deb files in it; have you installed those?
[06:23] <TJ-> maxtimbo: as in: "cndrvcups-common_3.30-1_amd64.deb  cndrvcups-ufr2lt-us_1.20-1_amd64.deb"
[06:23] <maxtimbo> TJ-, ooooh yeah
[06:24] <maxtimbo> TJ-, been there done that.
[06:24] <maxtimbo> to no avail
[06:24] <TJ-> maxtimbo: do the packages install?
[06:24] <maxtimbo> they install
[06:24] <maxtimbo> then i get PID error when i try to use the printer
[06:24] <TJ-> maxtimbo: so the issue is in what? discovery of the printer, or printing to it once the printer is added to CUPS ?
[06:26] <TJ-> maxtimbo: if the issue is in printing itself, use the CUPS logs to diagnose it in /var/log/cups/
[06:26] <maxtimbo> that isn't the problem
[06:27] <maxtimbo> it's the 32bit dependencies that aren't compiled correctly with the 64bit .deb file.
[06:29] <OerHeks> install the 32 bit debfile, as ubuntu is multiarch now
[06:29] <OerHeks> canon always have been a troublemaker
[06:33] <TJ-> maxtimbo: there are no 32-bit dependencies declared in either debian package
[06:34] <hateball> fwiw, I tend to just extract the PPD from debs, as well filters if needed... usually just comment them out in the ppd and things seem to work well anyhow
[06:34] <hateball> but I suppose it depends on make and model
[06:35] <vivek_> ho
[06:35] <muhandash> .
[06:35] <muhandash> quit
[06:37] <TJ-> maxtimbo: do you mean the way the canon packages include 32-bit libraries (although I've get to find any exectuable that links with them)
[06:37] <maxtimbo> i don't know anymore, TJ-
[06:38] <maxtimbo> now i'm getting a filter failed error
[06:38] <maxtimbo> aka different error than the one before
[06:38] <TJ-> maxtimbo: ahhh... in the -common package, usr/bin/c3pldrv
[06:40] <maxtimbo> TJ-, i'm not following your train of thought...
[06:40] <maxtimbo> that bin is installed already, btw
[06:42] <TJ-> maxtimbo: I've got both the debian files extracted (not installed) to examine them. I'm looking at each exetuable and running it through 'file' and 'ldd' to find the dynamically linked libraries they expect, and where they are/should be
[06:42] <TJ-> maxtimbo: extracted as in "dpkg-dev -R <package>.deb <package>-dir/ "
[06:42] <TJ-> s/dev/deb/ !
[06:45] <maxtimbo> ok, here's the error message i know: Idle - src = libcanon_pdlwrapper.c, line = 514, err = 0¥nDEBUG: Wrote 1 pages...
[06:47] <TJ-> maxtimbo: OK, that comes from /usr/lib/libncapfilter.so.1.0.0
[06:47] <maxtimbo> I'm going to restart real quick.
[06:47] <maxtimbo> see if that helps
[06:47] <maxtimbo> brb
[06:49] <maxtimbo> back
[06:49] <maxtimbo> and now it's this tricky error: Idle - src = libcanon_pdlwrapper.c, line = 514, err = 0¥nDEBUG: PID 2306 (gs) exited with no errors.
[06:50] <maxtimbo> you still with me TJ- ?
[06:51] <TJ-> maxtimbo: I've disassembled the library
[06:51] <maxtimbo> you're a wizard
[06:54] <maxtimbo> oh my god I did it, TJ-
[06:54] <maxtimbo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2259195
[06:54] <maxtimbo> Needed these dependencies
[06:55] <TJ-> maxtimbo: that's interesting; do the packages declare dependencies only on the 64 bit versions?
[06:56] <maxtimbo> these are 32bit libs that aren't included? I suppose...
[06:56] <maxtimbo> That is so irratating
[06:57] <TJ-> maxtimbo: That's Canon for you, those packages are terrible. They totally miss any 'Depends:' for libjpeg, and the others they do declare will be on the 64-bit libraries
[06:58] <maxtimbo> Here I was thinking canon would be better than Brother printers.... Wrong
[06:58] <TJ-> maxtimbo: that's what happens when the packages are not built and tested on vanilla build systems - they test them on developer PCs which already have those packages installed, and therefore they do not hit that issue.
[06:59] <TJ-> maxtimbo: you should report it to Canon and tell them to get some professional developers!
[06:59] <TJ-> maxtimbo: or offer them your consultancy at $5000/hour
[07:00] <maxtimbo> hahahaha!
[07:00] <maxtimbo> i'll take my time -_-
[07:00] <Iota> I hear Dell is sneaking their certs into Ubuntu.
[07:01] <Iota> What's the best way to remove these? I don't want to be superfished.
[07:02] <somsip> Iota: you've heard wrong. They're on Windows installs. See here http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/23/dell_security_nightmare_gets_worse/
[07:02] <OerHeks> lota read that message carefully: certificates on windows
[07:04] <maxtimbo> posted: http://askubuntu.com/questions/628145/install-canon-printer-lbp6030w/701828#701828
[07:05] <TJ-> maxtimbo: "cndrvcups-ufr2lt/usr/lib/libuictlncap.so.1.0.0" has dependencies for those 'missing' libaries, but the system thinks it can satisfy them with the 64-bit versions, until run-time, due to the bad way Canon have built those Debian packages
[07:05] <Iota> Thanks, somsip. I heard some bad info and thought I'd just jump in the channel and ask before checking. :D
[07:05] <TJ-> Iota: if you don't even read before checking, 'superfish' is the least of your worries :D
[07:06] <maxtimbo> so that's why the error message comes up as a non-error
[07:06] <TJ-> maxtimbo: it seems so, yes.
[07:06] <Iota> TJ-, I certainly read the article. But if you check yourself, you'll see they don't mention the status of the Ubuntu OS they also offer.
[07:07] <Iota> It was another source I got the information from.
[07:07] <somsip> Iota: and it's now off topic so lets leave it as that
[07:07] <Iota> Lol
[07:07] <TJ-> Iota: interesting question you raise actually; if they offer a custom Ubuntu installation I wonder if they put that rogue cert and key in the ca-certs bundle?
[07:08] <maxtimbo> thanks for the help. I'm calling it for tonight
[07:08] <TJ-> Even if the public cert were shipped in pre-installed Linux installs, that would make it vulnerable, since the private key has been distributed
[07:08] <TJ-> maxtimbo: glad you solved it :)
[07:09] <jodom1> hello
[07:12] <amazoniantoad> Is the Aquaris E5 compatible for AT&T?
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> !touch | amazoniantoad
[07:14] <bhioaq> hi
[07:15] <mijowh> I'm having issues installing the drivers for a new graphics card. Had an old geforce 8400 gs, with the drivers from nvidia's site working fine (v340 i think). I had just bought a new geforce gtx 680 and trying to install the driver results in some "failed to load kernel module nvidia.ko" saying it couldnt find some files.
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: where did you get the driver from
[07:15] <mijowh> the info log is too long to put on pastebin
[07:15] <mijowh> nvidia's website
[07:16] <bhioaq> how do i boot Live Ubuntu from an NTFS local partition from a syslinux menu on a usb stick?
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: better to install ubuntu drivers from additional drivers section
[07:17] <bhioaq> its a Casper squashfs image
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> bhioaq: start from the beginning mate, whats your end goal?
[07:18] <bhioaq> how do i write the correct sysl entry? i want to boot the live ubuntu system from the HD, its much faster than from a usb stick
[07:19] <bhioaq> lotus: do u know the corret sysl entry to boot squashfs from a ntfs disk?
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> bhioaq: what dont you just install ubuntu?
[07:20] <bhioaq> dont want to GRUB or the hole system, because i have win installed
[07:21] <bhioaq> so how do i Boot/start live ubuntu from a HD with a syslinux entry?
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> bhioaq: how about you install ubuntu in a virtual machine on your windows?
[07:22] <bhioaq> as i said i dont want to INSTALL it but RUN it as an overlayfs
[07:23] <bhioaq> or boot the ubuntu.iso from a NTFS partition
[07:23] <bhioaq> so my Q is: whats the correct syslinux menu entry?
[07:24] <mijowh> burn it to a disc, or dual boot with grub. Maybe I dont understand your question, bu your not going to have windows and linux both running from the same partition
[07:24] <mijowh> or do a virtual machine in windows
[07:25] <mijowh> but ill brb gotta reboot see if the driver took well
[07:25] <bhioaq> offc, i could install GRUB  on a USB stick, and then boot the hole iso from a ntfs local part
[07:26] <bhioaq> how do i do that then?
[07:26] <theboss> julijulityes
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> bhioaq: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> theboss: can we help you?
[07:27] <theboss> lotuspsychje, oops, sorry... got two keyboards in front of me... was on the wrong one
[07:27] <mijowh> alright that didnt work at all
[07:28] <mijowh> i installed the nvidia-352 from software center
[07:28] <mijowh> and now glxinfo throws errors about glx extension missing
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: your card is optimus?
[07:28] <mijowh> and im stuck at a really low res
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: and wich ubuntu version?
[07:29] <mijowh> optimus? no, gtx 680. I installed the 352 because that the version that waslisted in nvidias site
[07:29] <mijowh> and lubuntu 15.10 x64
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: try lubuntu LTS on that card?
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: or another driver from 15.10
[07:30] <mijowh> so: reformat?
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: depends what you want, stable long time support or non-lts?
[07:30] <mijowh> I want an opengl 4.0+ context so i can play with compute shaders lol
[07:31] <mijowh> ill just reinstall fresh tomorrow i guess
[07:31] <mijowh> seems linux doesnt like hardware changes
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: try drivers switch first
[07:31] <mijowh> only been running ubuntu for a few months
[07:31] <mijowh> which driver should i try?
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: tell me wich drivers show up your list?
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: 340 or 346 if that shows?
[07:32] <Exchizz> Morningen guys(if it's morning for you :b ). I'm having some troubles understanding UEFI vs. BIOS.  My system is currently using UEFI. When I see 'Press Fx to change boot order' - is that BIOS or UEFI ? Altså when I enter (what's normally called BIOS), is that BIOS or UEFI ? Thanks :>
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Exchizz
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> Exchizz: can you tell us what you wanna do exactly?
[07:33] <mijowh> i was running 340 earlier with the old card from nvidias site, but when i installed the new card glxinfo still showed a 3.3 context
[07:33] <Exchizz> I have read that, but I don't think it answers my question :> Is BIOS startup first then UEFI ?
[07:33] <mijowh> and i believe the new one is 4.2
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: ok then file a bug in 15.10
[07:34] <mijowh> alrighty
[07:34] <mijowh> ill install lts tomorrow after work
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> Exchizz: from bios you can choose uefi or legacy..is that what you want?
[07:34] <mijowh> thanks for the help regardless
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: ok mate
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> good choice
[07:35] <mijowh> this was the first issue i had with 15.10 really and ive been running for maybe 3 months now (came from windows previosly)
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: smart choice :p
[07:36] <Exchizz> lotuspsychje:  soo I run both BIOS og EUFI ?  I'm not really trying to do enything, I just want to understand what it is :b Yesterday I accidently deleted a entry using efibootmgr, then I started to read and think about it.
[07:36] <Exchizz> UEFI *
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> Exchizz: try ##hardware if its not ubuntu related mate
[07:36] <mijowh> Exchizz, maybe $$hardware can help
[07:36] <mijowh> ##
[07:36] <Exchizz> Ah I didn't of that, thanks :>
[07:38] <mijowh> time to do some backups lol. I'm just hoping this card was worth it in the end. I had this all customized and nice just how i like it
[07:38] <mijowh> bleh
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: dont blame the card mate, should be working nice on lts
[07:38] <mijowh> i still need to try out wine. Gonna try to get bf4 running. on the old card id average about 5-6 fps on windows. totally unplayable
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: bf4 on linux hmmm
[07:39] <mijowh> and a 4.2 context will be nice. I havent been able to play around with tessellation or compute shaders yet. been learning opengl
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: could try the playonlinux database or winehq
[07:40] <mijowh> i was reading on winehq that bf4 worked pretty well considering
[07:40] <mijowh> that its playable and such
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> mijowh: didnt test myself
[07:41] <mijowh> ive been forced to run bf1942 because its all the old card could handle
[07:41] <mijowh> games from 2001, yay
[07:41] <mijowh> (surprisingly, theres still alot of peple online on it too)
[07:43] <hateball> !ppa | mijowh there is also this PPA for up-to-date nvidia drivers https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[07:43] <hateball> !ppa
[07:43] <hateball> Silly goose
[07:43] <hateball> mijowh: note that the 358 driver is broken, 355 is however nice
[07:44] <mijowh> will that work with a 680? i know nvidia listed it as 352
[07:45] <mijowh> oh i also wanted to ask, earlier i tried running "playonlinux" frontend for wine, and it was giving me a hard time about not having 32-bit for opengl. Do i really need to install 32-bit system instead just to get wine to run?
[07:46] <mijowh> i cnat even use all my memory if i do that
[07:47] <sly01> hi all
[07:47] <sly01> i got a question
[07:47] <sly01> my os is ubuntu 10.04 lucid 64 bit
[07:47] <sly01> and i want upgrade first 12.04 then from 12.04 to 14.04
[07:47] <somsip> mijowh: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/507468/playonlinux-missing-opengl-32-libraries
[07:47] <sly01> when i do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade then do-release upgrade
[07:48] <sly01> it says command terminated with exit status
[07:48] <sly01> what solution could be ?
[07:48] <sly01> thank you
[07:48] <somsip> sly01: are you really typing "do-release upgrade"?
[07:48] <mekhami> do monitor drivers typically get released for ubuntu/
[07:48] <guest-iYLSLd> ahsahjahaha
[07:48] <mekhami> i bought a new monitor and heard there's some updates
[07:48] <guest-iYLSLd> fuck zou
[07:49] <guest-iYLSLd> you
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> !ops | guest-iYLSLd
[07:49] <guest-abcd> mistgeburten
[07:49] <DJones> guest-iYLSLd: Please don't this is a support channel only
[07:49] <guest-iYLSLd> fuckyou
[07:49] <somsip> mijowh: lots of other references to the same issue out there. Best to read up before blindly trying one of the offered solutions
[07:49] <guest-abcd> cocksucker
[07:50] <mijowh> well that wanst why i came here, I was having driver issues, which i did read and couldnt solve
[07:50] <mijowh> that was just a side note that i noticed
[07:50] <mijowh> my apologies
[07:50] <guest-PtTkSH_> hi
[07:50] <somsip> mijowh: if you ask questions, sometimes you get answers. Do with it what you will
[07:51] <mijowh> did i offend somehow?
[07:51] <sly01> yeah soip do-release-upgrade
[07:51] <somsip> sly01: do each command separately - which one fails?  I entered one more line add the end of sshd_config to enable ssh access for another user plus root with: AllowUsers User   , but I will lost my root connection and iam not able to reconnect after ssh reload. How can I add another user to use ssh?
[07:52] <mekhami> i'll never understand this fasincation.
[07:52] <sly01> somsip apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && do-release-upgrade
[07:52] <somsip> karstenk: always keep a connection open when messing with SSH configs. BTDTGTTS
[07:52] <mekhami> fascination, wow what happened there.
[07:52] <karstenk> ive done tzhat somsip
[07:52] <somsip> sly01: and as I said, do eash separately and confirm which one fails. And which version are you on.
[07:53] <karstenk> but how can i add a second user than root?
[07:53] <karstenk> the user allready exists
[07:53] <sly01> yeah I did it seperately my os version ubuntu 10.04 lucid
[07:53] <somsip> karstenk: users should be able to just log in to SSH using their normal logins
[07:53] <somsip> !10.04
[07:53] <somsip> sly01: so that not supported anymore. Read the upgrade link at the end of the next factoid
[07:53] <somsip> !eol | sly01
[07:54] <logy> hi ppl, why is it so hard to format a usb in ubuntu. I press right click format it and it gives me like 3 errors xD
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | logy
[07:54] <lotuspsychje> logy: after install gksu gparted and format
[07:54] <sly01> thats what I am looking now
[07:54] <sly01> thank you
[07:55] <karstenk> that was the user create line sudo adduser --system --home=/opt/odoo --group odoo
[07:55] <sly01> by the way
[07:55] <karstenk> but the user odoo isnt able to use ssh
[07:55] <sly01> how do you say specific person just as you do
[07:55] <karstenk> what ive missed to configure?
[07:55] <logy> ye i could use gparted, totally forgot about that xD thank you  a lot
[07:55] <sly01> when you say something to me color of text is red
[07:55] <sly01> what is the command of doing that
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> logy: gparted mostly bypassing errors :p
[07:56] <somsip> karstenk: that adduser line does not contain an option to set the login shell, IIRC
[07:56] <karstenk> ok, what can cause that ssh connect isnt allowed for that user?
[07:56] <karstenk> the sshd config is pretty standard
[07:57] <somsip> karstenk: that user does not have a login shell (from what I can tell - I don't know adduser command well)
[07:57] <somsip> !pm | sly01
[07:57] <logy> One more question, I am trying to use Times new roman (font from ms office) I installed ttf-mscore by following a tutorial online, but it just gives me an error  (EVERY time I start ubuntu) that the libraries are wrong
[07:58] <somsip> sly01: put their name at the front of your reply. Type a few letters and hit <tab> to auto-complete in most clients
[07:58] <karstenk> does anybody other know what to configure additional or how to change that user to have ssh connect?
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> logy: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:58] <somsip> karstenk: give them a login shell
[07:59] <logy> lotuspsychje: ty will try now
[07:59] <somsip> karstenk: from man adduser " The new system user will have the shell /bin/false (unless overridden with the --shell option), and have logins disabled"
[08:00] <sly01> somsip: Thank you so much
[08:00] <somsip> sly01: that did it
[08:00] <sly01> ubottu: okey i got thank you
[08:02] <karstenk> i have changed shell, now the uiser is configured like: odoo:x:112:120::/opt/odoo:/bin/sh
[08:02] <karstenk> but connection still not able
[08:03] <karstenk> wrong shell?
[08:03] <ikonia> define "not able"
[08:04] <karstenk> Permission denied, please try again.
[08:04] <ikonia> what does the servers log show about the connection
[08:07] <somsip> karstenk: did you set the password after giving them a login shell?
[08:09] <karstenk> no, i try that at the moment, but when user passwd, I get (current) UNIX password:
[08:09] <karstenk> passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[08:09] <karstenk> passwd: password unchanged
[08:09] <karstenk> upps sry
[08:09] <ikonia> you're not doing the password with sudo
[08:09] <ikonia> set the password with sudo
[08:09] <karstenk> k
[08:09] <ikonia> eg: sudo password odo
[08:09] <karstenk> user have no sudoers
[08:09] <ikonia> you must have
[08:10] <ikonia> how did you create/alter a user if you don't have sudo
[08:10] <karstenk> sudo adduser --system --home=/opt/odoo --group odoo
[08:10] <ikonia> you just said you didn't have sudo
[08:10] <karstenk> no sudo for odoo
[08:10] <ikonia> so ?
[08:11] <ikonia> I'm not asking you to grant odoo sudo permission
[08:11] <ikonia> I'm telling you to set the users password
[08:11] <somsip> karstenk: use the same user that you used when you added odoo
[08:11] <ikonia> with the command "sudo passwd odoo"
[08:11] <karstenk> k
[08:11] <karstenk> worked
[08:11] <karstenk> thanks a lo
[08:12] <karstenk> t
[08:12] <somsip> karstenk: and ssh login?
[08:12] <karstenk> works
[08:12] <karstenk> i missed to setup as root the passwd for that user
[08:13] <karstenk> so now I need to restrict, that this user can only connect fro a configured ip
[08:13] <karstenk> per ssh
[08:14] <ikonia> you can use tcp wrappers, ufw, or the inbuild ssh restrictions
[08:14] <somsip> !ufw | karstenk
[08:14] <karstenk> but when I last added   AllowUsers  odoo@my-ip  the root user could not connect anymore
[08:14] <ikonia> the root user cannot connect over ssh anyway
[08:14] <ikonia> it is disabled
[08:14] <ikonia> you can't even login as root
[08:15] <karstenk> no I activated for developing processes
[08:15] <somsip> karstenk: if you have enabled root login (shudder) you need to list all users in AllowUsers (see http://knowledgelayer.softlayer.com/learning/how-do-i-permit-specific-users-ssh-access)
[08:15] <ikonia> a.) the root user has no password - so you can't login b.) the root user is disabled in ssh - so yo can't login ANYWAY
[08:17] <karstenk> AllowUsers root odoo@my-ip   ??
[08:17] <ikonia> no
[08:17] <ikonia> root is disabled
[08:17] <ikonia> and should stay disabled
[08:18] <karstenk> ok, that was the trick, it works like aspected
[08:18] <karstenk> thanls
[08:18] <karstenk> thanks
[08:19] <karstenk> yes i will disable, when iam finished configuration ikonia
[08:20] <ikonia> it should not be enabled
[08:20] <ikonia> and it should be disabled now
[08:20] <karstenk> why?
[08:20] <ikonia> you do not need root ssh to configure anything
[08:20] <ikonia> and you do not need the root account enabled at a shell level
[08:20] <karstenk> ?
[08:20] <ikonia> what is not clear about what I've just said ?
[08:21] <karstenk> you say you dont need, i asked why?
[08:21] <ikonia> why do you need it ?
[08:21] <karstenk> ive not user user to configure my productions server, the services user are completly restricted to there services
[08:21] <karstenk> why i need not the root user to configure?
[08:21] <ikonia> karstenk: so you should use a nonprivileged user, with sudo
[08:22] <ikonia> the whole ubuntu security model is based on the root account being disabled and locked, you're breaking that
[08:22] <karstenk> why?
[08:22] <ikonia> the ssh security model is based on the root account not having interactive login privileges, you're breaking that
[08:22] <karstenk> what should be the different to first configure all with root and than deactivate ssh?
[08:22] <ikonia> so you're breaking 2 of the core security setups, because you appear to not know how to use sudo
[08:23] <UbuntuUser> Good morning. I am trying to rsync a remote server (ubuntu) to a local server (also ubuntu) [both 14.04.3] for backup purposes. If I run rsync directly on the terminal the rsync works fine, however, if I run it from inside a .sh (bash) file then the rsync cannot resolve the hostname. Does anyone have a pointer on how to get around this? . Google has not been much help thus far!!
[08:23] <barnex> hey
[08:23] <ikonia> UbuntuUser: pastebin your shell script
[08:24] <karstenk> no i only wanted to setup fast my server without entering sudo. security is what i set up last
[08:24] <barnex> I tried unmounting sshfs filesystem with random commands found on the internet, most of them wouldn't work. Now I'm stuck with 'Transport endpoint is not connected'
[08:24] <ikonia> karstenk: that is nonsense,
[08:24] <ikonia> karstenk: it is quicker to type "sudo -i" that to go in, setup a root login, go in, allow root in ssh, restart ssh
[08:24] <ikonia> basically, you don't know how to use sudo, so you've put your production servers at risk
[08:24] <barnex> one of the random commands was 'mount -t sshfs -o remount,allow_other' which remounted it somehow, and now it's not in mtab, so I can't remount
[08:24] <somsip> karstenk: you generally tried to ignore the advice you were being given from the start. We are trying to help. You should try to listen. EOT for me
[08:24] <UbuntuUser> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/UbdG9WtB
[08:25] <barnex> or if I try to remount with sshfs endpoint is not connected :/
[08:25] <ikonia> UbuntuUser: there are lots of white spaces
[08:25] <ikonia> UbuntuUser: that will make the hostname invalid
[08:25] <barnex> can't just remove the directory either, since 'it's a folder' when I rm -rf
[08:25] <ikonia> barnex: is the hostname 128SSSD?
[08:25] <karstenk> nonsense is in my eyesnot to use the root user for a developing moment, there is nothing, what cant undo
[08:25] <ikonia> oops
[08:25] <ikonia> UbuntuUser: is the hostname 128SSD
[08:26] <karstenk> iam aware of the risks
[08:26] <ikonia> karstenk: how are you goint to lock the root user account when you are done ?
[08:26] <ikonia> karstenk: clearly you're not
[08:27] <UbuntuUser> ikonia:  yes
[08:27] <UbuntuUser> and also, I just rewrote it directly inside nano without pasting... same error
[08:27] <barnex> ok, never mind, some more random commands fixed it :-) (sudo umount -l)
[08:27] <ikonia> UbuntuUser: remove the white spaces, also you may want to put a username in, IF the script is being run as a different user
[08:27] <karstenk> I change back the line PermitRootLogin yes to no
[08:27] <ikonia> karstenk: that doesn't lock the root user
[08:27] <Hardcore7> Hi
[08:27] <ikonia> karstenk: the root user is still unlocked
[08:27] <ikonia> karstenk: how are you going to lock the root user ?
[08:28] <karstenk> thats all what ive changed to a standard installation
[08:28] <UbuntuUser> ikonia: 128SSD is inside ~/.ssg/config
[08:28] <UbuntuUser> ssh*
[08:28] <ikonia> karstenk: no it's not
[08:28] <ikonia> karstenk: the root user has no password by default, so you wouldn't be able to login if you hadn't set a root password
[08:28] <Hardcore7> sudo passwd root?
[08:28] <ikonia> Hardcore7: no
[08:28] <karstenk> the root passwd is set by my hoster not from me
[08:28] <ikonia> UbuntuUser: does the machine you are running on have internet connection ?
[08:29] <ikonia> karstenk: then you are in trouble, as your security model is already broken, and you should not have enabled root in the ssh config
[08:29] <UbuntuUser> ikonia: Yes. and as I said, it works fine when I run the line from the terminal
[08:29] <ikonia> UbuntuUser: ok, so please do "cat your_script_name | pastebinit"
[08:29] <ikonia> and give us the URL
[08:30] <UbuntuUser> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/EziZeMHC
[08:30] <karstenk> ikonia since iam using a ssl covered openvpn connection with rsa keys, iam not in trouble with that
[08:30] <ikonia> karstenk: I'm not going to help you any more, it doesn't appear you know what you are doing, and refuse advice,
[08:30] <karstenk> no i recognize, thanks
[08:31] <ikonia> UbuntuUser: so you're script is broken, it has white spaces in
[08:31] <UbuntuUser> that has to be pastebin
[08:31] <ikonia> UbuntuUser: it's not
[08:31] <UbuntuUser> That was written directly inside NANO
[08:31] <ikonia> as the command I told you to run would send it to ubuntu pastebin, not pastebin.co
[08:31] <ikonia> .com
[08:31] <UbuntuUser> on the terminal, it cannot be written another way
[08:31] <ikonia> so you're not doing what I told you to do
[08:31] <UbuntuUser> ok greeat
[08:31] <ikonia> so I'm going to stop help you
[08:31] <UbuntuUser> wow
[08:32] <UbuntuUser> arrogant much>]
[08:32] <ikonia> no
[08:32] <UbuntuUser> yes
[08:32] <barnex> well he's helping you for free
[08:32] <barnex> you're the arrogant one :P
[08:32] <ikonia> I told you exactly what to type so I could get good info from you, you ignored it and re-pasted the same link as if it was something new
[08:32] <ikonia> I can't help you if I don't get good information
[08:33] <UbuntuUser> ZERO difference than pastebin.com http://paste.ubuntu.com/13490409/
[08:33] <ikonia> UbuntuUser: not interested,
[08:33] <UbuntuUser> good
[08:33] <UbuntuUser> die
[08:33] <barnex> :/
[08:33] <inteus> wow really?
[08:33] <UbuntuUser> unhelpful people need to not frequent IRC
[08:33] <UbuntuUser> you arrogant cunt
[08:33] <ikonia> bye
[08:33] <inteus> drop the attitude
[08:33] <inteus> and the language
[08:34]  * SlidingHorn applauds
[08:34] <Hardcore7> ikonia: wow that guy was a mad man xD
[08:34] <ikonia> just ignore and lets move on
[08:35] <Hardcore7> ikonia: thankfully we got people who like to help ;)
[08:37] <Ignaz> hello which is the right eclipse package for PHP ? eclipse-pdt did'nt find on ubuntu 15.10
[08:38] <somsip> Ignaz: the official one is a bit outdated IIRC. It's one of the few occasions I'd recommended installing from the zip
[08:38] <Ignaz> ah ok thanks a lot
[08:38] <somsip> Ignaz: zip...whatever the downloadable form is...
[08:38] <Ignaz> is there some PPA for that?
[08:38] <Hardcore7> .exe or .sh if im correctly
[08:38] <Hardcore7> and*
[08:39] <Hardcore7> Ignaz: just look at their website, i don't think they do have either have not an updated PPA itself
[08:39] <Ignaz> eclipse-inst-linux64.tar.gz
[08:39] <somsip> Ignaz: maybe, but it's a simple unarchive, copy to /opt/ and add the bin to $PATH
[08:40] <somsip> Ignaz: https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/Getting_Started:Eclipse:Installing_Eclipse_on_Ubuntu http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/install-latest-eclipse-ubuntu-14-04/
[08:42] <Skrank> top O the morning to you all
[08:42] <Hardcore7> Skrank: morning
[08:42] <Ignaz> Thanks a lot
[08:46] <fateme> Hi everyone, I have a running process /usr/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/mdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt8. can anyone tell me this is related to which package or service please?
[08:47] <ikonia> its the disktop
[08:47] <ikonia> desktop
[08:47] <ikonia> the X server that contains your visual desktop
[08:47] <Hardcore7> ikonia: ur so quick xD
[08:48] <fateme> remote desktop you mean?
[08:48] <Hardcore7> fateme: no, don't think so
[08:49] <zerothis> I need a permanent cursor to always be visible no matter which app is running even if it has it's own cursor or makes the cursor invisible
[08:49] <Hardcore7> fateme: Xorg (/usr/bin/X) is your desktop client, and it has remote X as posibility
[08:50] <Hardcore7> zerothis: why would you need this?
[08:51] <fateme> Thanks Hardcore7
[08:51] <fateme> Thanks ikonia
[08:54] <dionysus69> what log level do I need for this ? uswsusp ? hibernation, it would be nice if I see what % is loaded from SSD back to ram
[09:01] <zgorbyo> hi all
[09:02] <zgorbyo> can anyone help me in make my bluetooth connection work on my ubuntu 1404 laptop?
[09:07] <barnex> zgorbyo: probably, just state what you know, what you did and what troubles are you experiencing
[09:07] <barnex> and if someone can help someone will
[09:08] <zgorbyo> ok
[09:08] <Kadred> alguem
[09:09] <SysUX-E> zgorbyo: what is your exact problem?
[09:10] <zgorbyo> the default status is off and when i attempt to enable it the graphic switch trns back to off mode after few seconds
[09:10] <ArchNoob> Hello. :)
[09:10] <SysUX-E> zgorbyo: so your display shows black when you turn BT on?
[09:11] <zgorbyo> no, graphics is ok
[09:12] <ArchNoob> I have an issue, when i'm using my computer for like 4/5 days suddenly the screen turns off and buttons wont function and fans starts going faster this doesn't change until i force shutdown. What could be the cause?
[09:12] <zgorbyo> simply cant activete it
[09:12] <ArchNoob> I have an issue, when i'm using my computer for like 4/5 (uptime) days suddenly the screen turns off and buttons wont function and fans starts going faster this doesn't change until i force shutdown. What could be the cause?
[09:12] <cfhowlett> !ask | ArchNoob
[09:12] <SysUX-E> zgorbyo: try this: rfkill unblock bluetooth
[09:13] <cpaelzer> ArchNoob: quite often this indicates that something you or your system does leaves stale things
[09:14] <cpaelzer> ArchNoob: if these still consume some CPU power or tap on shared ressources and so on such things can add up badly at some point
[09:14] <ikonia> or a process dies keeping resources open
[09:14] <cpaelzer> ArchNoob: I'd recommend doing some basic monitoring and regularly grab the ouptut of ps for some time to get an idea what might be going on
[09:15] <ikonia> if the screen is going black, I'd suggest your X server, video card kernel module would be a key starting point
[09:15] <ikonia> or you could just have a problem with power managment support
[09:16] <zgorbyo> now it doenst revert automaticalli to off status aymore
[09:17] <zgorbyo> i could be ok
[09:17] <zgorbyo> i must test it
[09:19] <cpaelzer> ArchNoob: I'd start with "dstat -tvin --noupdate 5 > dstat.log &" and "(while /bin/true; do ps axlf >> ps.log; sleep 30; done) &"
[09:19] <SysUX-E> zgorbyo: ok, tell me if it works or not
[09:19] <cpaelzer> ArchNoob: I totally like the approach of ikonia as well, and both are not mutually exclusive
[09:19] <cpaelzer> ArchNoob: so monitor in background and look for e.g. X logs and power management
[09:19] <Mathisen> im having problem geting wifi working on a HP 6730p laptop the wifi hotkey wont even work just orange glow from it should be blue i think im missing some driver for this any ideas ?
[09:20] <cpaelzer> ArchNoob: and when the system is almost dead next time you will after the reboot have some nice logs to get an idea
[09:20] <Mathisen> 6730s model sorry not "p"
[09:21] <TJ-> Mathisen: that's an ACPI OSI issue; the PC firmware doesn't provide the same services to Linux as it does to Windows
[09:21] <Mathisen> TJ-, and how do i solve this
[09:22] <zgorbyo> now it seems ok, thanks very much
[09:22] <TJ-> Mathisen: show us "pastebin <( sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows )"
[09:23] <Mathisen> TJ-, give me 2 min got an apt-get command runing
[09:25] <TJ-> Mathisen: you can also do "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows | termbin.com 9999"
[09:25] <TJ-> Mathisen: (if you're waiting to install pastebinit, that is)
[09:26] <Mathisen> TJ-, im waiting to be able to install it yet
[09:26] <Mathisen> yes
[09:30] <TJ-> Mathisen: this works without pastebinit:  "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows | nc termbin.com 9999"
[09:30] <Mathisen> TJ-, hmm strings command not found
[09:31] <Mathisen> TJ-, what package got that command
[09:32] <TJ-> Mathisen: What release is that you're using? strings is part of binutils, and a system without that package is broken
[09:33] <Mathisen> TJ-, yeah my bad spelling :) anyway still did not work >> Bash: /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT Accec denied
[09:33] <TJ-> Mathisen: did you forget the sudo?
[09:35] <Mathisen> nope
[09:36] <TJ-> Mathisen: what does "ls -l /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT" report?
[09:39] <Mathisen> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/Bk99u3Re
[09:40] <TJ-> Mathisen: so the file is accessible by root, as it should be. 'sudo strings ... ' therefore shouldn't get 'access denied'
[09:41] <Mathisen> TJ-, http://termbin.com/27mr
[09:43] <Mathisen> TJ-, anymore info you want
[09:44] <TJ-> Mathisen: hmmm, that's quite an old device to be affected by the firmware bug I'm thinking of. It's mostly very recent (last 2 years) devices from HP and Acer
[09:44] <TJ-> Mathisen: show us "dmesg | pastebinit"
[09:44] <Mathisen> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13491245/
[09:45] <Mathisen> TJ-, im guessing i need a broadcom driver of some sort but i dont know
[09:45] <Mathisen> im just wild guessing here
[09:46] <TJ-> Mathisen: which Ubuntu release is it, 15.04 Vivid ?
[09:46] <Mathisen> TJ-, Lubuntu 15.04
[09:47] <TJ-> Mathisen: see line 156 of that pastebin
[09:47] <Mathisen> "Your BIOS is broken" :)
[09:47] <Mathisen> does not sound to good lol
[09:48] <TJ-> Mathisen: right, just be aware of that, it could be an underlying cause of other symptoms
[09:50] <Mathisen> TJ-, yeah but you still got no idea what i should do ? to get wifi going ?
[09:51] <TJ-> Mathisen: I'm working through the log. Line 959 onwards is not good either
[09:52] <harishkrupo> !log | harishkrupo
[09:53] <TJ-> Mathisen: line 1020 "[    9.831445] b43-phy0 ERROR ..."
[09:54] <xchatUser> hello!
[09:55] <harishkrupo> hello
[09:55] <Mathisen> TJ-, should i try >> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer    ?
[09:56] <TJ-> Mathisen: I'd be worried about all those GPU errors too
[09:56] <TJ-> Mathisen: yes
[09:59] <rootNinja> I am using ubuntu 14.04 and it is not Shutting down from quite a while now. When I click on Shutdown/Restart it goes to shutdown page and runs forever. Can someone help me in this ?
[09:59] <Mathisen> TJ-, yeah that did the trick
[09:59] <Mathisen> working now
[09:59] <Mathisen> TJ-, thx for the help
[10:00] <xieaoran> shenmegui
[10:00] <barnex> rootNinja: if you want just to shutdown it now, ctrl-alt-f1 to a console, login and sudo shutdown -h 0
[10:00] <barnex> should do the trick
[10:01] <rootNinja> @barnex - let me try and get back to you .
[10:05] <ArchNoob> cpaelzer: Hello Thank you for your answers. And sorry i was out, went to poop ;) really. So you gave me this script is it okay if i just get it in my functions file and be running it every now and then!?
[10:07] <cpaelzer> ArchNoob: these are just two calls that you can enter in your console. they will both background and collect info in the two files. Start them after your next reboot
[10:07] <Ishant_> hello
[10:08] <cpaelzer> ArchNoob: Then when your system is slow or even after the next reboot you will find the log useful to see what might have "ramped up"
[10:08] <cpaelzer> ArchNoob:  those are just two commands, no need for scripts/functions yet - just open a console - put the first enter, put the second enter and you are all set
[10:09] <cpaelzer> ArchNoob: you can then take a look at what is accumulating in the logs with e.g. "tail -f dstat.log"
[10:09] <rogger_h> Im looking for someone to give me sys admin services with a reasonable price. if someone is a freelancer and want please pm me
[10:09] <Ishant_> how to change permission of read only file system?
[10:09] <ArchNoob> cpaelzer: Thank You very much.. :)
[10:11] <fRit_^> hello, could someone tell me how to stop automatic connections to canonical servers on system launch? haetae.canonical.com
[10:11] <fRit_^> obake.canonical.com, port 80
[10:17] <Ishant_> how to change permission of read only file system?
[10:20] <EriC^^> Ishant_: what are you trying to achieve?
[10:34] <fRit_^> hello, could someone tell me how to stop automatic connections to canonical servers on system launch? haetae.canonical.com
[10:34] <ikonia> fRit_^: what application is connecting
[10:35] <hexhaxtron> In aptitude how can I deselect all packages containing ':i386'?
[10:36] <fRit_^> ikonia: i dont know :( port 80
[10:36] <fRit_^> its security repositiory
[10:37] <fRit_^> I have disabled unattended-upgrades
[10:37] <fRit_^> and periodic
[10:43] <fRit_^> ikonia: any idea?
[10:43] <killall> where can i get support libevdev?
[10:53] <adac> Guys, how can create a snapshot of my system, so I can jump back to that state at some point?
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> !backup | adac
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> adac: another time saving is to backup your favorite packages with aptoncd
[11:00] <adac> lotuspsychje, thanks a lot!
[11:02] <rootNinja> @barnes - It is not working, I ran that command you asked me to. But again it went to shutdown screen and was running forever.
[11:06] <rootNinja> I think barnes is not here. Let me tell my problem again, I am unable to shutdown my Ubuntu Machine. When I do shutdown/restart it goes to shutdown screen and runs forever. Here barnes asked me to do this : alt+ctrl+f1 login sudo shutdown -h 0, I did all this but again I was on shutdown screen and it was running forever. If anyone can help ?
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> rootNinja: press F1 on shutdown, to see freezing part error
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> rootNinja: you can also test sudo halt -p to force
[11:09] <rootNinja> lotuspsychje : you mean before executing : sudo shutdown -h 0, I should execute sudo halt -p ?
[11:10] <Ben64> how about sudo poweroff
[11:12] <rootNinja> @Ben64 - Let me try
[11:12] <mcphail> rootNinja: when your machine is hanging on the shutdown screen, does it switch off if you hold Alt+SysRq(PrintScreen) and type "REISUO"?
[11:13] <rootNinja> @mcphail - wait lemme try this .
[11:14] <dantes> привет индейцы
[11:14] <cfhowlett> !ru | dantes
[11:20] <maggo201> @rootNinja maybe your graphics card is causing the problem
[11:20] <maggo201> @rootNinja http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2277583
[11:20] <Capprentice> Im getting a error on rtorrent, too many open files. What could be the cause? How do I fix it?
[11:20] <nullkuhl> i have nvidia driver installed, but i cant prime select as it says alternative are not set correctly, however every time i set alternative manaually, after reboot it drops back to mesa.,
[11:21] <nullkuhl> do anyone know how to fix alternative or fix them on nvidia
[11:21] <k1l> rootNinja: see the syslog.0 or syslog.1 in /var/log what is causing issues at the end
 rootNinja: see the syslog.0 or syslog.1 in /var/log what is causing issues at the end
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: wich card chipset?
[11:27] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: 07:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce GT 740M] (rev a1)
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: installed nvidia-prime?
[11:27] <rootNinja> I tried $sudo poweroff didn't worked, then I tried to get freezing error by ctrl+f1, nothing happened, then I tried ctrl+SysRq again noting happened ??
[11:27] <nullkuhl> yes , nvidia prime, and nvidia-352 driver
[11:27] <nullkuhl> and i dont have nor use bumblebee
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: bumblebee is outdated dont worry
[11:28] <mcphail> rootNinja: Alt+Sysrq, not ctrl
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: can you try a less driver, 340 or 346 perhaps
[11:28] <rootNinja> @K1l - I forgot so I tried with all three alt, ctrl and shift. Nothing happened
[11:29] <rootNinja> sorry I meant @mcphail.
[11:29] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: tried , but didnt matter, the problem is i develop using cuda, so whenever i install cuda toolkit, it break the alternatives issue
[11:29] <mcphail> rootNinja: and you held them down while you typed "RESIUO"?
[11:30] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: i can switch to nvidia card using prime-select nvidia, but thats only when i set alternatives manually through "sudo update-alternatives --config x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf"
[11:30] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: enabled performance mode in nvidia-settings?
[11:30] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: the problem is right after reboot, i find that its back again, and prime select says alternatives not set correctly, theni  wud have to redo all that again
[11:30] <rootNinja> @mcphail - you mean I have to keep them held down on shut down screen and start pressing REISUO in this order ?
[11:31] <mcphail> rootNinja: yes
[11:31] <EriC^^> reisuo or reisub?
[11:31] <mcphail> rootNinja: it isn't a fix for your problem, but might be a workaround
[11:31] <mcphail> EriC^^: reisuo - he wants to switch off rather than reboot
[11:32] <EriC^^> oh ok
[11:32]  * mcphail only found out about the "O" yesterday after accidently holding Alt-Syrq-H and finding a help screen
[11:33] <rootNinja> @mcphail -  Let me try and get back to you .
[11:35] <dersand> If i have an usb stick with the file structure: "efi" -> "boot" -> "bootx64.efi", "grubx64.efi". Am i able to boot ubuntu from this device?
[11:36] <cfhowlett> dersand, depends.  is your device EFI and set to secure boot or legacy?
[11:36] <dersand> cfhowlett: i'm on windows right now, how can i check that?
[11:37] <EriC^^> dersand: you have to enter the bios and check
[11:37] <dersand> Allright then, here goes
[11:37] <cfhowlett> dersand, plug in USB, reboot, hit f12 (or whatever takes you to one-time boot options), set USB to #1 boot priority and let 'r rip.
[11:37] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: any idea ?
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: wich ubuntu version is this
[11:42] <d1v3> server irc.anonops.com 6697
[11:42] <rootNinja> @mcphail - Didn't worked dude. Nothing happened.
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> rootNinja: try to set grub to "quiet splash" off= "" to see the text booting
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> rootNinja: it might give you some info of whats happening
[11:44] <stangeland> hi, ii try to load my ubuntu machine....but it just opens up in a "GNU GRUB Minimal BASH-like line editing" tool.... Could this be because the harddisk is broken? It was working just fine - booting normally up until now
[11:45] <mcphail> rootNinja: Shame. Wonder if this is an ACPI issue? TJ- is usually the master of debugging those
[11:45] <cfhowlett> stangeland, lots of things could break.  no reason to assume it's a HDD issue
[11:45] <stangeland> cfhowlett, hmm i see...is there any way i can figure out what the problem could be?
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: join #ubuntu-discuss always handy to have acpi experts
[11:45] <TJ-> rootNinja: "grep kernel\.sysrq /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf" should show what Magic SysRq functions are enabled
[11:46] <cfhowlett> stangeland, first check your boot media: md5sum the .iso then the USB you made with it.
[11:46] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | stangeland
[11:46] <stangeland> cfhowlett, no this ubuntu has been installed already long time ago on the harddisk and has been working great for months
[11:47] <cfhowlett> stangeland, ah!  good to know.  smartmonctl tools will tell you about the HDD
[11:47] <TJ-> stangeland: do you have a "rescue>" or "grub>" prompt??
[11:47] <stangeland> cfhowlett, i see, Is that something i need to download and put on a usb drive?
[11:47] <cfhowlett> stangeland, boot a live USB and run it from there
[11:47] <stangeland> TJ-, yeah...i have a grub> prompt
[11:47] <rootNinja> @TJ -  this is the output : #   debugging dumps of processes: kernel.sysrq = 10 kernel.sysrq = 176
[11:48] <TJ-> stangeland: that's a good sign, means the GRUB root file-system was readable.
[11:48] <rootNinja> @mcphail - by ACPI you mean some power issue, even I think this is the case..
[11:48] <TJ-> stangeland: are you at the "grub>" prompt now?
[11:48] <stangeland> TJ-, aha good to know....yes i am in the grub> now...can i run any diagnostics from there?
[11:48] <TJ-> rootNinja: OK, 176 should enable Alt+SysRq+O
[11:48] <mcphail> rootNinja: basically, can the OS communicate with the hardware to get it to shut down properly
[11:49] <TJ-> stangeland: "set" and tell us what root= prefix= show
[11:49] <TJ-> rootNinja: does Alt+SysRq+B reboot it?
[11:50] <stangeland> TJ-, hmm set shows a lot of things
[11:50] <rootNinja> @TJ - lemme try Alt+SysRq+B.
[11:50] <TJ-> stangeland: right, just tell us the values for root and prefix though
[11:50] <stangeland> TJ-, ahh sry...i will summarize
[11:50] <rootNinja> @mcphail - how can I find out this ?
[11:51] <stangeland> TJ-, prefix=(hd0,gpt2)/boot/grub and root=hd0,gpt2
[11:51] <k1l> rootNinja: what about the logs to see what is actually causing this issue?
[11:51] <stangeland> TJ-, btw. its 4 1TB SSD drives running in a RAID0 configuration
[11:52] <TJ-> stangeland: ok, now do "ls $prefix/" and tell me if you see a grub.cfg file listed?
[11:53] <stangeland> TJ-, yes it is
[11:54] <TJ-> stangeland: OK, that's a good sign too.
[11:54] <stangeland> TJ-, i see gfxblacklist.txt i386-pc/ locale/ fonts/ grubenv grub.cfg
[11:54] <TJ-> stangeland: "insmod normal"  then "normal"
[11:55] <stangeland> TJ-, insmod normal did not show anything
[11:55] <TJ-> stangeland: good :)
[11:55] <stangeland> TJ-, neither did normal
[11:55] <TJ-> stangeland: not so good!
[11:56] <stangeland> TJ-, :/ what does that mean?
[11:56] <TJ-> stangeland: the 'normal' module when executed looks for and loads the grub.cfg. Maybe there's nothing in it? "cat $prefix/grub.cfg" - does lots of text go by and do you see things like memtest listed in the last page that remains on-screen?
[11:57] <stangeland> TJ-, uhhh ok this does not look good. When i do that cat command i get: "error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'
[11:59] <TJ-> stangeland: has the system recently done a firmware (UEFI or BIOS) reset, or have you altered the boot device order?
[11:59] <TJ-> stangeland: because if you've a RAID-0 stripe, the order of the disks as presented to GRUB by the firwamre is critical.
[11:59] <stangeland> TJ-, not delibeately...but ubuntu updates were installed....i dont know if they did anything
[12:00] <TJ-> stangeland: no, the issue I'm thinking of is purely a firmware boot-device ordering issue
[12:00] <TJ-> stangeland: is the system UEFI or BIOS ?
[12:00] <stangeland> TJ-, no...i have not done any firmware upgrades nor changed anything in BIOS
[12:00] <stangeland> TJ-, i dont know if it is UEFI or BIOS. How can i see that?
[12:01] <TJ-> stangeland: the presence of "i386-pc/" tells us it is booting in legacy/BIOS mode at least
[12:01] <stangeland> TJ-, ah ok i see
[12:01] <stangeland> TJ-, should I change anything in BIOS?
[12:01] <TJ-> stangeland: it probably doesn't matter at this point, but I'm trying to build a picture of the permutations in my head :)
[12:02] <TJ-> stangeland: let's consider the 'read outside disk' issue.
[12:02] <stangeland> TJ-, ok i understand. Let me know anything i can type to help you form the picture :D
[12:02] <TJ-> stangeland: This RAID-0 of 4 drives, did you create than in some BIOS Setup screens, or from within the Ubuntu OS?
[12:02] <stangeland> TJ-, i believe i did that in BIOS
[12:03] <VenomByte> and I believe i can fly :D
[12:03] <VenomByte> sorry lol
[12:03] <stangeland> TJ-, i am not entirely sure though...this was some months ago in a stressfull period, but IIRC it was a BIOS setup
[12:04] <stangeland> TJ-, yes getting more sure when i think about it...it was some bios setup screens
[12:06] <TJ-> stangeland: OK, that's what I would expect, so in *theory* the BIOS code should present those 4 devices as 1 logical device to GRUB... what has happpened - for whatever reason - is the boot device isn't the logical RAID device, but the 1st raw underyling device... so when GRUB tries to read any sectors that are further into the device than the end of that 1st disk, it errors
[12:06] <rootNinja> @TJ - alt+sysrq+b is rebooting it. But shutdown is still not working.
[12:06] <TJ-> stangeland: So, I'd suggest rebooting and entering the BIOS Setup screens. Find where it sets the boot device ordering and ensure, if the option exists, that the 'RAID' device is first
[12:06] <numnum> Hello, Question: When running a program like Firefox or Thunderbird from the prompt in Linux Mint, it opens correctly, but doesn't show the prompt anymore, any help?
[12:07] <stangeland> TJ-, ok moment...i will go to BIOS
[12:07] <TJ-> rootNinja: by 'shutdown' do you mean Alt+SysRq+O, or literally "shutdown -hP now" ?
[12:07] <hateball> numnum: append a & at the end of the command to "free up" the terminal. such as "firefox &"
[12:08] <numnum> let me try
[12:08] <rogger_h> Im looking for someone to give me sys admin services with a reasonable price. if someone is a freelancer and want please pm me
[12:08] <rootNinja> @TJ- I tried alt+sysrq +o didn't work.
[12:08] <stangeland> TJ-, ok...i have entered a webbios
[12:09] <numnum> nope, still not the correct return to the prompt...
[12:09] <ikonia> rogger_h: this isn't the place for that type of discussion
[12:10] <TJ-> rootNinja: Don't worry about +O not working, that sometimes isn't configured.
[12:10] <stangeland> TJ-, its "MegaRAID BIOS Config Utility Virtuall Configuration"
[12:10] <hateball> numnum: press enter
[12:10] <hateball> !who | numnum
[12:11] <TJ-> stangeland: Obviously you're on your own as regards working with those Setup screens, but you need to ensure that the 'MegaRAID' device is the first, and only, boot device. You might have to dig, or read the manual, to ensure it is set correctly
[12:11] <hateball> numnum: you may find this useful http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-linux-disown-command-examples-usage-syntax/
[12:12] <rootNinja> @TJ - so how do I shutdown my system? It is not shutting down anyway, I have to manually pull the plug.
[12:12] <numnum> Hateball; ty i will look into this, but something makes me understand this may be an add on problem
[12:12] <freakyy> hi all. can anyone help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13480438/ it's about the graphics driver ati from their website (manual install)
[12:12] <TJ-> rootNinja: as someone earlier said, that sounds like the ACPI functionality has a problem. Can you "dmesg | pastebinit"
[12:13] <freakyy> rootNinja: type in terminal: shutdown -h now or if u wanna restart: shutdown -r now
[12:14] <freakyy> rootNinja: oh ok then do what TJ-  says
[12:14] <nullkuhl> I am using an nvidia driver (its a must for me) and i get Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". on running glxgears, any idea ?
[12:14] <k1l> rootNinja: what about the logs?
[12:15] <numnum> Hateball: Look into this please : (firefox:4268): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property GnomeProgram::sm-connect after class was initialised
[12:15] <numnum> (firefox:4268): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property GnomeProgram::show-crash-dialog after class was initialised
[12:15] <numnum> (firefox:4268): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property GnomeProgram::display after class was initialised
[12:15] <numnum> (firefox:4268): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: Attempt to add property GnomeProgram::default-icon after class was initialised
[12:15] <tesla__> nullkuhl, are you using bumblebee?
[12:15] <nullkuhl> tesla__: no
[12:15] <hateball> !paste | numnum
[12:16] <hateball> numnum: And I am afraid I do not run neither gnome nor firefox
[12:16] <tesla__> nullkuhl, where did you get your drivers from? are you having this problem in a laptop?
[12:16] <numnum> hateball: Ok understood, thanks anyway for the help
[12:16] <Jesterboxboy> i cant copy text from a terminal with a ssh session to external programs?
[12:17] <nullkuhl> tesla__: its a laptop yes with an intel card as well, and i got the driver from ubuntu repo, i have the nvidia-352 installed, along with cuda toolkit
[12:17] <Jesterboxboy> ctr+shift+c dioest work, and if i rightclick the copy is greyed out
[12:17] <Jesterboxboy> any idea?
[12:17] <Jesterboxboy> iam using the standard terminal with ubuntu 14.04
[12:18] <tesla__> nullkuhl, let me guess you are planning to use your laptop for cuda and that's why you need the nvidia drivers and why you tried to test if everything went ok with glxgears?
[12:19] <nullkuhl> tesla__: exactly
[12:19] <nullkuhl> tesla__: do u need me to pastebin any logs ?
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: you didnt mention ubuntu version yet
[12:20] <leohaxor> !help
[12:20] <tesla__> nullkuhl, AFAIK you need to install bumblebee to run optimus on a laptop
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> tesla__: bumblebee is outdated
[12:20] <nullkuhl> tesla__: i heard that bumblebee is outdated,
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> tesla__: nvidia-prime instead now
[12:20] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 14.04
[12:21] <tesla__> lotuspsychje, oh ok
[12:21] <tesla__> nullkuhl, install what lotuspsychje is saying
[12:21] <leohaxor> any poeple use ubuntu 14.04 ??
[12:21] <k1l> bumblebee was to fill the gap as long as nvidia didnt ship nvidia prime officially
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> tesla__: he already has it
[12:21] <nullkuhl> tesla__: i have it already
[12:22] <k1l> leohaxor: better ask a specific question
[12:22] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: these are my devices from lspci http://pastebin.com/i9qTiP10
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: you sure you tested all other drivers from additional drivers list?
[12:23] <SyncopatedFool> Having trouble setting up postfix on Ubuntu server, I have POP3 working properly, but SMTP without authentication won't allow me to send outgoing mail, and I am having troubles setting up authentication.
[12:23] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: yes, it also used to work on a previous installation this same driver version
[12:24] <cfhowlett> SyncopatedFool, might want to jump over to #ubuntu-server with this
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: never worked good on trusty?
[12:24] <SyncopatedFool> cfhowlett thanks! didn't know the subchannel existed
[12:24] <cfhowlett> happy2help! SyncopatedFool
[12:25] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: everything was fine untill i had to install cuda toolkit , then it messed up my driver abit, that i had to remove all then re install nvidia driver again
[12:25] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: i also had to remove a mesa link from alternatives as the nvidia driver would never get activated by prime , and it used to select the mesa one by default
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: not sure the behaviour of cuda+optimus togheter sorry
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: your card shows cuda on the website right?
[12:26] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: am not interested in optimus
[12:26] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: yes, i only need to develop on cuda so i dont care about switching/optimus much
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: , yes but the card needs nvidia-prime if you wanna get it to work
[12:26] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: exactly
[12:26] <stangeland> TJ-, ok there was a boot menu...not in that web setup interface, but after....here i can select boot device: IBA XE Slot 0400 v2205    or     UEFI: Built-in EFI Shell     or     (Bus 81 Dev 00) PCI RAID Adapter. Would i then choose that Raid Adapter?
[12:27] <nullkuhl> and i also used to have an ubuntu 15 installation working with both optimus and cuda fine
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: dig out your syslog and dmesg for whats happening
[12:28] <nullkuhl> ill try purge nvidia* and see how it goes then install it again
[12:28] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: may be that cleans something out
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: ive seen manu users working optimus cards on more early drivers 340 and 346
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> many
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> nullkuhl: lts + nvidia-prime + performance + 340/346
[12:29] <nullkuhl> lotuspsychje: ok ill try that 340 now
[12:34] <TJ-> stangeland: OK, yes, the RAID device. That also tells us the system has UEFI firmware
[12:35] <stangeland> TJ-, hmmm when i choose that i am just being thrown back into that grub> prompt
[12:36] <TJ-> stangeland: right, so we're back to the original problem.
[12:37] <stangeland> TJ-, yes i think so.... so its a different problem?
[12:38] <TJ-> stangeland: the issue is, GRUB is unable to read the 'RAID' device since there is no such thing in reality
[12:38] <TJ-> stangeland: I'm not sure how/why it was originally reading it. Have you recently changed the partition layout or switched to a separate /boot/ partition+file-system ?
[12:38] <stangeland> TJ-, i see ok... so somehow the RAID configuration has been destroyed?
[12:39] <TJ-> stangeland: No... this is a common problem with *FAKE*RAID like this
[12:39] <stangeland> TJ-, no... it might be i have not set it up properly in the first place many mponths ago....but it has been running ok until now...strange that problems would suddently appear now
[12:40] <TJ-> stangeland: the problem is that there is no hardware RAID going on, all the BIOS RAID configuration does is write some 'metadata' to each device describing the layout of the 'array', but the raw devices are still visible to the boot-loader and OS. The OS is expected to contain drivers that understand that fake-RAID metadata and assemble the raw disks into the logical RAID device.
[12:41] <TJ-> stangeland: The GRUB boot-loader is much more limited since it relies on the BIOS to provide services for reading the disks. something seems to have changed in the GRUB configuration that has changed it so it can no longer get to the RAID device
[12:41] <stangeland> TJ-,  hmmm i see. interesting. so could those drivers have somehow been deleted?
[12:42] <TJ-> stangeland: do you have the "grub>" prompt right now?
[12:42] <stangeland> TJ-, yeah i have the grub> now
[12:42] <TJ-> stangeland: type "ls" and tell me all the (devices,partitions) it reports please
[12:43] <stangeland> TJ-, ok here it is:     (hd0) (hd0,gpt3) (hd0,gpt2) (hd0,gpt1)
[12:43] <pikapi> my usb stick just doesn't work at all
[12:43] <pikapi> everytime I plug it in I have to format it as it says unknown file system
[12:43] <pikapi> what to do
[12:44] <cfhowlett> pikapi, how exactly did you create this USB?
[12:44] <YamakasY> heh which email provider is best for sending monitor messages to ?
[12:44] <pikapi> wrote new mbr in gparted
[12:45] <pikapi> then made two partitions.
[12:45] <cfhowlett> pikapi, usb sticks DO NOT have an mbr.  what are you doing?
[12:45] <pikapi> it doesn't?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> pikapi, course not.
[12:46] <pikapi> well it said the device has no mbr . first make mbr then can create partition on it
[12:46] <cfhowlett> use the ubuntu startup disk creator
[12:46] <pikapi> I did
[12:46] <pikapi> but the usb won't become bootable
[12:46] <TJ-> stangeland: OK, so that 'hd0' is presented by BIOS to GRUB, and *should* be the logical RAID device
[12:46] <cfhowlett> pikapi, wait and this is an ubuntu BOOT disk, right?  you did NOT install to ubuntu?
[12:46] <cfhowlett> install to USB?
[12:46] <pikapi> the only thing that worked was unetbootin
[12:46] <stangeland> TJ-, right...and for some reason it is not?
[12:47] <TJ-> stangeland: but, as you saw with the 'read beyond end of disk' error, hd0 in fact appears to be the first underlying raw disk
[12:47] <pikapi> yeah. usb in Ubuntu
[12:47] <stangeland> TJ-, so weird
[12:47] <pikapi> I wanted to make usb live session on it
[12:47] <TJ-> stangeland: I was hoping you'd have seen some other 'hdX' values, hd0, hd1, hd2, hd3, representing the underlying raw disks
[12:47] <stangeland> TJ-, so you think this is just a setup issue? Or could it still be broken hardware?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> pikapi, delete all partitions, format at the ext4 in gparted.
[12:48] <pikapi> but then it won't work in windows
[12:48] <boxmein> pikapi: it won't anyway when you want to make it a live usb
[12:48] <TJ-> stangeland: Well, I work on the GRUB source-code, and I've just double-checked and there is no specific support for LSI MegaRAID fake-RAID, only Nvidia RAID
[12:48] <boxmein> technically I've also made a two-partition USB with the first partition being NTFS for mass-storage and the second being archlinux
[12:48] <cfhowlett> pikapi, wait, what?
[12:49] <pikapi> previously I used universal usb installer. that had ntfs file system  on partition 1 and partition 2 was ext4
[12:49] <boxmein> and it worked exactly as one would make a regular usb stick, only the install location is now /dev/sdc2
[12:49] <stangeland> TJ-,  i see.....but what could be a logical reason for it to have worked earlier then...it has been running on the grub loader for a while
[12:49] <pikapi> I could use it on windows too
[12:49] <cfhowlett> sorry, format as ntfs for a boot, pikapi but still, NO MBR needed
[12:49] <k1l> cfhowlett: live usbs have fat FS iirc.
[12:49] <k1l> pikapi: just "dd" the ubuntu iso onto the usb.
[12:49] <cfhowlett> k1l, correct, I'm about to get off of IRC.  been here too long already.
[12:50] <pikapi> I did dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sda1
[12:50] <Ira_L> Boot Repair Report Difficulties http://paste.ubuntu.com/13488855/
[12:50] <boxmein> pikapi: doesn't that mess some stuff up
[12:50] <pikapi> but usb was not bootable.
[12:50] <TJ-> stangeland: the only thing I can imagine is this. The file-system containing the /boot/grub/ directory starts on the 1st disk but spans into the 2nd disk. Originally, on first installation, that directory and its files were all on the 1st disk and therefore readable. Later, as the file-system filled up, and updates to GRUB were installed, the dirs/files ended up on another underlying disk, so now they're
[12:50] <TJ-> unreachable
[12:50] <pikapi> all files got copied. and fs became iso
[12:51] <pikapi> is there any way to make the usb bootable from Ubuntu? or I go back to windows to make it?
[12:51] <Ira_L> Dual Boot Problems with windows 10 and ubuntu 15.10 boot-repair didn't fix Boot Repair Report Difficulties http://paste.ubuntu.com/13488855/
[12:52] <stangeland> TJ-, i see. Thats an interesting theory. So what you are saying is that the system was always setup wrong, but by luck (because of the ~large disk size) i only first find out now
[12:52] <TJ-> stangeland: yes, I think that sums it up.
[12:52] <cfhowlett> pikapi, the usb must have the /boot and /lba flags set.
[12:52] <TJ-> stangeland: I'm trying to think of a way out of it :)
[12:52] <boxmein> pikapi: shooting from the hip here, but the iso might have some header/trailer parts with the partition table already, so dd-ing it into a partition won't work while dd-ing it into the entire device would
[12:53] <pikapi> so I do dd if=iso of=/dev/sdb
[12:53] <pikapi> instead of sdb1 ?
[12:53] <TJ-> boxmein: that's it with Ubuntu ISO images, 100%. They're hybrid bootable, so if they're installed in a partition some boot-loader that is able to load/boot ISOs must be installed on that device, too
[12:54] <stangeland> TJ-, i can wipe the machine....it does not contain anything important right now...all code on it is in a repository on a different machine already
[12:54] <TJ-> pikapi: Yes, NEVER write an ISO you want to be bootable, to a partition, it needs to start at sector 0 of the raw (whole) physical device
[12:54] <stangeland> TJ-, I have to run for 30 minutes. Are you here for a while still?
[12:54] <pikapi> ok. I will try that . gimme 5minutes
[12:54] <TJ-> stangeland: possibly :)
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> Ira_L: make your life easy and install ubuntu single
[12:55] <stangeland> TJ-, ok...crossing my fingers hehe. be back soon. Thanks for your help so far
[12:55] <pikapi> but how come it worked with unetbootin from partition
[12:56] <TJ-> pikapi: because unetbootin installs a boot-loader that knows how to chainload ISO images
[12:56] <pikapi> ah
[12:57] <ubone> What is the command to associate .torrent with transmission (cli/daemon) for web interface with chrom*/mozilla?
[12:57] <TJ-> !info grub-bootimage | pikapi GRUB provides additional functionality to do that, too
[12:57] <TJ-> !info grub-imageboot | pikapi GRUB provides additional functionality to do that, too
[12:57] <pikapi> ok. let me go step by step
[12:58] <pikapi> rn I deleted all partitions on disk
[12:58] <pikapi> now made single primary ext4 partition
[12:59] <pikapi> now what to do?
[12:59] <cfhowlett> pikapi, delete it.  you need ntfs / fat32 for a bootable USB
[12:59] <pikapi> oh
[12:59] <Ira_L> On Dual boot win10/U 15.10 grub knocked off by windows boot-repair-didn't fix Boot Repair Report Difficulties http://paste.ubuntu.com/13488855/
[13:00] <pikapi> now it is ntfs
[13:01] <pikapi> now I will do dd if=iso of=/dev/sdb ?
[13:01] <pikapi> or sdb1?
[13:01] <boxmein> ubone, can you run cat /usr/share/applications/transmission-gtk.desktop | grep MimeType
[13:02] <boxmein> ubone: just a sanity check :P
[13:02] <pikapi> I did /dev/sdb . lets see if it works
[13:02] <ubone> i dont have the gtk ui, only cli
[13:03] <pikapi> this is too complicated. someone should write a small script or something.
[13:03] <pikapi> I didn't even know it needs a ntfs/fat device to boot
[13:04] <Spaceeman> Hi :)
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !usb | pikapi,
[13:04] <TJ-> pikapi: there is absolutely no point in partitioning and creating a file system if you're writing the ISO image to the raw device, since that will over-write the partition table and file-system you just put on the device
[13:04] <Spaceeman> About printing to a file (pdf),
[13:04] <pikapi> oh man
[13:04] <Spaceeman> Can we edit some configuration?
[13:04] <Spaceeman> like marges size...
[13:04] <boxmein> ubone: https://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/MagnetLinks might help you
[13:05] <TJ-> pikapi: what are you trying to achieve, forgetting the process, tell us what you want the edn result to be capable of?
[13:05] <pikapi> now in gpart it says /dev/sdb1 fs unkown size 1014.97 flags boot,hidden
[13:05] <pikapi> I just want a bootable usb stick wjich has a live session
[13:06] <TJ-> pikapi: OK, then using "dd if=file.iso of=/dev/sdX ..." is all you need do to create that.
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> Spaceeman: inkscape perhaps?
[13:06] <TJ-> pikapi: I thought you might be also wanting another file-system on the device for storing and sharing files persistently
[13:06] <ikonia> would unetbootin not make this easy
[13:06] <pikapi> but now it the flags say boot and hidden and fs=unknown
[13:06] <ikonia> gui tool - select the device, select the iso
[13:07] <Spaceeman> lotuspsychje: thanks but it's not why I'm lloking for :(
[13:07] <TJ-> pikapi: Ignore that, the ISO images are hybrid bootable, they can boot from DVD (using ISO9660 El Torito), from BIOS (using MBR) and from UEFI (using GPT+EFI-SP)
[13:07] <pikapi> ikonia the default option in unetbootin launches busybox and I can't scroll down because I have usb keyboard
[13:07] <BluesKaj> HI folks
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> Spaceeman: alot of online pdfs editors out there also
[13:07] <ikonia> unetbootin does not luanch busy box
[13:08] <pikapi> I removed the hidden flag
[13:08] <ikonia> it launches the iso you write to it
[13:08] <pikapi> ikonia for me it launched busybox, <initramfs> command prompt
[13:08] <Spaceeman> In many softxare, when you print, you can chose "To a file" (PDF) Then, there are some marges... I'm looking for rediuse this marges size to obtaine a grather image in the PDF resulting.
[13:08] <TJ-> pikapi: 'busybox' will be the shell inside the initial ramdisk of the Linux image
[13:08] <cfhowlett> pikapi, not sure why you have a hidden flag.  I don't.
[13:09] <pikapi> cfhowlett I will reboot and see if it works
[13:09] <TJ-> pikapi: that happens because the kernel, and the scripts in the initial ramdisk image, cannot find the root file-system
[13:09] <pikapi> should I enable lba flag too?
[13:09] <TJ-> pikapi: do not change anything! The ISO image is perfect as it is.
[13:10] <TJ-> pikapi: if the ISO image, on the raw device, doesn't boot at all (as opposed to getting so far and then getting stuck), that's another matter.
[13:10] <ubone> pikapi, dd bs=4M if=/path/to/buntu.iso of=/dev/sdx && sync  no sda1
[13:10] <pikapi> didn't work. stuck on oem logo
[13:11] <stangeland> TJ-, are you still here? :)
[13:11] <TJ-> pikapi: so it did work, as in it booted but got stuck later.
[13:11] <TJ-> stangeland: I wish I weren't :)
[13:11] <pikapi> ok. I will retry unet then
[13:11] <caf4926> I want to ask about 14.04.1 compared to 14.04.3 and if 14.04.3 is LTS to 2019?
[13:11] <SyncopatedFool> Have yet to have anyone in #ubuntu-server answer my questions, ok to ask here about postfix?
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> !lts | caf4926
[13:12] <stangeland> TJ-, hehe...people are pulling your hair eh? :)
[13:12] <TJ-> stangeland: I can't find any straight-forward way to move files within an ext* file-system to the 'start' of the space. 'e4defrag' might help but unlikely.
[13:12] <stangeland> TJ-, ok...so do you think wiping the system and configuring differently could solve my problems?
[13:12] <caf4926> ! funny, the bot doesn't really understand my question
[13:12] <pikapi> I think I killed the usb somehow
[13:13] <caf4926> lol
[13:13] <stangeland> TJ-, maybe reconfigure the raid also
[13:13] <ubone> How should I edit mimetype file to enable chromium to open transmission web UI when I click on the downloaded torrent in chromium's bottom download bar/line?
[13:13] <stangeland> TJ-, the reason its running raid 0 is because it needs to support a lot of cores writing to a lot of small files simultaneously very quickly
[13:13] <TJ-> stangeland: If you can afford to re-install, I'd suggest doing that, and when you get to the partitioning stage create 2 small partitions first, the first being a 512MB FAT32 file-system for EFI-SP, and a 2nd 2MB for BIOS Boot, which are guaranteed to be at the start of the underlying disk as well as the start of the RAID-0 span
[13:14] <pikapi> with the usb plugged in and ububtu booting it says usb 1-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[13:14] <TJ-> stangeland: also, I'd recommend installing in UEFI mode rather than Legacy/BIOS assuming the MegaRAID device is visible from UEFI boot-loader stage
[13:14] <pikapi> and also read/8
[13:14] <TJ-> pikapi: OK, so the USB device is failing on the link
[13:15] <caf4926> so am I correct that actually we will get 14.04.4 and then .5 and it's .5 that will extend it to 2019
[13:15] <caf4926> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support
[13:15] <TJ-> pikapi: it is possible the image written to the USB device was corrupted, or that reading it back is corrupting it
[13:15] <pikapi> so now
[13:16] <pikapi> the image works when I have unetboot write it
[13:16] <TJ-> pikapi: after you did the 'dd' write operation did you 'sync' to ensure all the data in the RAM cache was flushed to the device, before you unplugged it?
[13:17] <k1l> caf4926: you have 2 kernels who have long term support. the 14.04 3.13 and the 16.04 4.XX kernel. so either you stay on the 3.13 or you upgrade the kernel until you are on the 16.04 backports kernel
[13:17] <TJ-> stangeland: in addition to that, you should create as the 3rd partition a separate /boot/ file-system of about 1GB to store GRUB files, the kernel images and supporting initrd.img files
[13:17] <ikonia> k1l: are they back porting non-released kernels now ?
[13:18] <caf4926> k1l: but the other software continues to be patched too regardless of whether you install 14.04.1 or .3?
[13:18] <k1l> ikonia: no. its when 16.04 is released their kernel gets backported for testing to 14.04 and is put officially in the enablement stack for 14.04.5
[13:18] <TJ-> pikapi: when I write ISOs to USB, I first test boot them in a virtual machine
[13:18] <SyncopatedFool> Having trouble setting up postfix on Ubuntu server, I have POP3 working properly, but SMTP without authentication won't allow me to send outgoing mail, and I am having troubles setting up authentication.
[13:19] <ikonia> k1l: sorry thought you where saying it was there now, hence my surprise
[13:20] <k1l> caf4926: the point releases are like the servicepacks on windows. they summarize all updates until that day. additionaly they include the backports kernel and xorg stuff in the enablement stack
[13:20] <nitish> how can I install java?
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> !java | nitish
[13:20] <k1l> nitish: install the open jre from the repos
[13:20] <stangeland> TJ-,  i see ok. Very good comments. Do you have more hints you think would be valueble ?
[13:21] <caf4926> k1l: ty
[13:21] <TJ-> stangeland: those should protect you sufficiently
[13:21] <pTBD> Hello. I am using Ubuntu precise and am in the need of python 3.4.3 but official repos only provide 3.4.2. Should I build from source or is there another (easier) way to install?
[13:22] <pTBD> say other repository
[13:22] <jpds> pTBD: Upgrade to trusty.
[13:22] <cfhowlett> !precise | pTBD
[13:22] <TJ-> stangeland: although I'd also suggest using LVM in the install process, so you (re)assign space in the future (I usually leave at least 10% unallocated and available)
[13:23] <cfhowlett> pTBD, you can upgrade directly to 14.04 as it's also an LTS release.
[13:23] <pTBD> jpds: yeah, thanks. but no. Precise is the software running on a private cloud thing I have and I am not going to update that.
[13:23] <jpds> pTBD: It would be a _terrible_ idea to build such a core component from source
[13:23] <TJ-> pTBD: install a 14.04 chroot, run it from that
[13:23] <pTBD> hmm
[13:25] <stangeland> TJ-, you have really been a great help to me. Thank you so much
[13:25] <pikapi> sorry my phone battery exhausted
[13:26] <pikapi> I used unetboot again. and now it is again in initramfs
[13:26] <rimdeker> Anybody here got any experience with asciidoc? Not sure where else I can ask
[13:26] <pTBD> different question. Am I doing something wrong or why can't I find pip or virtualenv in the repos? since python 3.4.2 is used in precise, shouldn't there be those packages in the repos? AFAIK in debian they are
[13:26] <pikapi> cannot mount /dev/loop0 it says
[13:26] <pikapi> what can I do
[13:27] <TJ-> pikapi: that'll be because due to what unetbootin did, the ISO's root file-system is no longer where the code expects it to be
[13:27] <pikapi> yeah. I removed the other usb on which the iso was
[13:28] <ioria> !info python-pip precise
[13:28] <pTBD> I think thats python2 pip
[13:29] <pikapi> I am very tempted to go back to windows to install it . No tool on ubuntu is somehow able to gice me a bootable usb
[13:29] <k1l> pikapi: use "dd"
[13:30] <k1l> pikapi: and md5sum the .iso first to make sure its a clean ubuntu iso
[13:30] <pikapi> It is
[13:30] <k1l> pikapi: did you md5sum?
[13:30] <pikapi> I am 100% sure it is
[13:30] <k1l> what md5sum it is?
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> pikapi: wich ubuntu version are you on, and wich are you gonna put on usb?
[13:30] <TJ-> pikapi: it might help to 'md5sum' the image on the USb after writing it, to be sure it got stored correctly
[13:30] <pikapi> 14.04 and same
[13:31] <cfhowlett> pikapi, you're on 14.04 now?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> dd works well pikapi, much better than those aother apps like unetbootin etc
[13:31] <pikapi> now how to see the md5
[13:31] <k1l> i dont understand the issue? check the md5sum to get facts. then use dd to burn it onto the usb.
[13:32] <cfhowlett> pikapi, you're on 14.04 now?
[13:32] <pikapi> yeah . m on 14.04
[13:32] <pikapi> and the iso is same too
[13:33] <cfhowlett> pikapi, so why don't you use the default ubuntu-startup-disk-creator???
[13:34] <k1l> !md5sum | pikapi
[13:34] <pikapi> didn't give a bootable usb
[13:34] <luqman_> i don't know, i am the new linux user
[13:34] <pikapi> nothing makes the usb bootable except unetboot
[13:34] <cfhowlett> pikapi, false.  startup disk creator makes workable USB's out of the box
[13:35] <k1l> pikapi: so what is the .isos md5sum?
[13:35] <luqman_> Rufus can do it, to make bootable usb.
[13:35] <pikapi> there is nothingon the usb
[13:35] <pikapi> it is blank o.O
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> pikapi: open a tail -f /var/log/syslog while you plugin usb and create the stick
[13:37] <luqman_> are you serius?
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> luqman_: can we help you?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | luqman_,
[13:39] <luqman_> No, i just new linux user. i wont study.
[13:39] <pikapi> I am using startup disk creator again
[13:39] <pikapi> now hope it works
[13:39] <k1l> pikapi: stop
[13:39] <pikapi> stop?
[13:39] <k1l> pikapi: make a md5sum check on the .iso first
[13:40] <k1l> lets not waste time again and get some facts now to really see what is the issue
[13:40] <pikapi> oh. how to do it
[13:40] <TJ-> pikapi: you're misreporting the facts, which doesn't help. You told us earlier the USB *boots* but gets stuck at the logo splash screen, didn't you?
[13:40] <k1l> ....
[13:40] <k1l> !md5sum | pikapi
[13:41] <cfhowlett> pikapi, wait what?  You STILL haven't done the md5sum!?
[13:41] <cfhowlett> bad facts [13:43] <pikapi> the iso is the same  I used to get the current ubuntu running. It didn't occur to me that the iso could be corrupt
[13:43] <pikapi> I can even mount it without error
[13:43] <pikapi> let me check md5 anyway
[13:43] <TJ-> pikapi: to verify the MD5 sum of the image after writing it to the USB, do "DEV=/dev/sdX; ISO=Downloads/ubuntu-15.10-server-i386.iso; SZ=$(stat -c %s ${ISO}); sudo dd if=$DEV count=1 bs=$SZ | md5sum -  "
[13:44] <TJ-> pikapi: replace the values of DEV and ISO to ones that match your system
[13:44] <VenomByte> dd is fun lol
[13:45] <TJ-> pikapi: the reason for the somewhat complicated command is you have to have the MD5 calculated on the exact same number of bytes that were written - and most USBs are larger than the ISO they contain, so an MD5 sum of the entire device would never match the ISO image
[13:46] <pikapi> tj-there is already a md5sum.txt file on the usb having md5 of all folders
[13:46] <TJ-> pikapi: that's not the same thing at all
[13:47] <TJ-> pikapi: that doesn't cover the boot-loader, the file-system structure, the layout of the ISO image
[13:47] <TJ-> pikapi: that doesn't cover the boot-loader, the file-system structure, the layout of the ISO image
[13:48] <TJ-> pikapi:  a single bit being flipped 0 or 1 is enough to cause the thing to fail
[13:48] <pikapi> tj- sorry teej. I give up :"( I can't get this to work
[13:48] <pikapi> I will go back to the windows tool >.<"
[13:48] <k1l> pikapi: why dont you want to run md5sum on the iso? you were asked a lot of times now. what is the issue?
[13:49] <k1l> pikapi: you make it very hard to support you if you refuse to bring some facts
[13:49] <pikapi> k1l rn I am on phone and internet is not available on computer
[13:49] <k1l> pikapi: you dont need internet to run a md5sum check
[13:50] <pikapi> I did md5 and it said md5 command not found.
[13:50] <ikonia> this is pointless
[13:50] <ikonia> information is not being shared
[13:50] <ikonia> instructions are not being followed
[13:50] <EriC^^> pikapi: typo, md5sum
[13:50] <ikonia> I actually advise you give up - your attitude is not going to get you help/support
[13:50] <k1l> pikapi: ok, so you dont even read the wiki page with all the informations
[13:51] <k1l> pikapi: so stop asking in here if you dont want to be helped anyway.
[13:52] <pikapi> alrite wait. I think it is calculating it now
[13:53] <pikapi> 0bc058cdc75fb75d4922c7c74c4cd6b1
[13:53] <pikapi> the iso is ububtu 14.04lts 32bit
[13:53] <EriC^^> !hashes
[13:54] <k1l> ok, the md5sum matches ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-i386.iso
[13:54] <EriC^^> pikapi: it matches
[13:54] <EriC^^> pikapi: what's the problem btw?
[13:54] <k1l> so now use "dd" to bring it to /dev/sdx where x is your usb drive