[01:49] <abattoir> nickste: 3.5.4 is the latest available stable release for it
[01:50] <abattoir> morghanphoenix: make clean, i think
[01:50] <morghanphoenix> Thanks, apt-get remove was right out the window on that one.
[01:52] <morghanphoenix> But I did just sucessfully install from source for the first time, so I'm happy even if I have to remove it.
[01:52] <wildchild> how can I check if my drivers for nvidia are allready installed?
[01:52] <nickste> abattoir: does dapper update to 3.5.4?
[01:53] <lunitik> It depends outdated -industrial and -crystal packages... any idea when these deps will be fixed... (and why its depending -industrial at all..)
[01:53] <morghanphoenix> Mine only seems to update to 3.5.3
[01:53] <nickste> hmmm
[01:53] <lunitik> nickste: Riddell probably has packages for 3.5.4 ... its also in Edgy...
[01:54] <nickste> and updating to edgy, from dapper... is it a big download?
[01:54] <lunitik> nickste: yes
[01:54] <nickste> doh :(
[01:54] <Kubu> higi@HIGILINUX:~$ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[01:54] <Kubu> FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.15-27-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or director
[01:55] <Kubu> anyone knows why it tells me this
[01:55] <abattoir> nickste: yes, it does....
[01:55] <Kubu> ?
[01:55] <lunitik> nickste: it would likely take 40 mins AT LEAST even on cable....
[01:55] <crusty> ok! my linux pc is part of a LAN...and conect to interner through a windows computer. I'm having problen with windows firewall with prevent AMULE to recive HI-ID. What can i do?
[01:55] <abattoir> nickste: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[01:55] <nickste> ta
[01:55] <nickste> and on 384 adsl in south africa?!
[01:55] <abattoir> Kubu: you dont have the ndiswrapper module in that location
[01:55] <lunitik> abattoir: any idea the usplash config file?
[01:55] <Kubu> how do i put it there?
[01:55] <Kubu> i have installed ndiswrapper through synaptic
[01:57] <lunitik> Kubu: dpkg -L ndiswrapper | grep *.ko  .... where does it say it put it?
[01:58] <Kubu> it tells me ndiswrapper is not installed
[01:58] <lunitik> !test
[01:58] <ubotu> Failed.
[01:58] <lunitik> !botslap
[01:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:59] <abattoir> lunitik: i think you specify the resolution in your menu.lst(grub), not sure though
[01:59] <abattoir> Kubu: make sure you have ndiswrapper-utils and linux-restricted-modules installed
[02:00] <DexterF> hi
[02:00] <lunitik> abattoir: I'm like 90% sure there is a usplash config file someplace actually... with regular ubuntu, it actually disobeys they setting in there... (sets to 1024x768 despite no setting in menu.lst)
[02:00] <DexterF> when I tell Adept to install build-essentials it wants to install "linux-kernel-headers"
[02:00] <DexterF> but 2.6.11-headers. which is wrong. I need 2.6.15-27-k7 headers
[02:01] <abattoir> lunitik: see if you have /etc/usplash.conf
[02:01] <DexterF> whcih are installed. I'm pretty sure they will conflict. what should I do
[02:01] <Kubu> how do i get linux-restricted-drivers, i dunno i have them abattoir
[02:02] <abattoir> DexterF: i think l-k-h is the metapackage, where do you get 2.6.11? dapper shipped with 15
[02:02] <SpentCasing> should i upgrade to dapper? im on breezy now
[02:03] <lunitik> abattoir: dpkg -S /etc/usplash.conf says its not found... but it tab completed, and had contents... weird...
[02:03] <Kubu> ive got them
[02:03] <DexterF> abattoir: how should I know? that's what shows up in Adept.
[02:03] <Kubu> :S
[02:03] <lunitik> abattoir: surely usplash or kubuntu-artwork-usplash should have installed it?
[02:04] <abattoir> Kubu: linux-restricted-modules-<your kernel version> check if you have that installed
[02:04] <abattoir> DexterF: ok, try installing it
[02:05] <Kubu> yes i do
[02:05] <SpentCasing> is ver. 6.06 much better than 5.10? should i upgrade?
[02:06] <abattoir> Kubu: could you check if the ndiswrapper.ko file is present in the mentioned location?
[02:06] <Kubu> its not!
[02:06] <Kubu> oh
[02:06] <[GuS] > Bonjour...
[02:06] <Kubu> actually it is
[02:06] <abattoir> SpentCasing: it has newer versions of software and many bugfixes, so kinda, yes
[02:06] <Kubu> its here
[02:06] <Kubu>  /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/
[02:06] <abattoir> Kubu: could you do a 'uname -r' in a terminal and post the output here?
[02:07] <exceswater> hello guys
[02:07] <exceswater> i need some help from you...
[02:07] <Dendron> hey everyone
[02:07] <exceswater> i have a problem with my kubuntu
[02:07] <SpentCasing> hello
[02:07] <Dendron> When i use this java applet, the sound is scratchy and jittery and not good. How do i tell JAVA to use a specific sound server (ALSA) http://vnes.thatsanderskid.com/
[02:07] <exceswater> when it starts
[02:08] <Dendron> Click english games on top left, then select any game on left. JAva applet loads, loads game ROM, and starts and sound is crap.
[02:08] <DexterF> abattoir: I had it installed. then tried to install vmware-tools which require a build toolchain. it complained about the headers, whereever I pointed it
[02:08] <exceswater> can u help me guys
[02:08] <lunitik> BLAH... it works now on shutdown... but its ignoring the config on startup... still saying it doesn't have an image for 640x480... lame
[02:08] <DexterF> the ones in /usrc/include wouldnt work, the ones in /usr/src/linux/include neither
[02:08] <nickste> how do I get kubuntu to use the fglrx driver that I have just downloaded. (used apt-get to install it)
[02:09] <Kubu> abbatoir
[02:09] <lunitik> !fglrx
[02:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:09] <nickste> thanks
[02:09] <Kubu> abattoir: /lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/
[02:10] <lunitik> nickste: just enter 'fglrx' as Driver for video card setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf though... assuming its loaded...
[02:10] <Kubu> the modprobe looks at 2.6.15-27
[02:10] <lunitik> nickste: thats likely not the prefered way though
[02:10] <Kubu> i mean the other way round
[02:10] <SpentCasing> !sources
[02:10] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:10] <abattoir> DexterF: you are trying to install b-e or l-k-h ?
[02:11] <abattoir> Kubu: what kernel are you running now? where does ndiswrapper look?
[02:11] <abattoir> build-essential
[02:11] <lunitik> ahh
[02:11] <nickste> thanks lunitik
[02:11] <abattoir> lunitik: splash worked?
[02:11] <SpentCasing> what's the site to i can edit my sources list and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[02:12] <lunitik> abattoir: scroll up
[02:12] <abattoir> SpentCasing: what do you want to do exactly?
[02:12] <abattoir> SpentCasing: get a 'fresh' sources.list?
[02:12] <DexterF> abattoir: b-e. dep on that header package
[02:12] <Kubu> ive copied it into the other kernel
[02:12] <lunitik> SpentCasing: what do you want to do?
[02:12] <Kubu> now its working i think
[02:12] <abattoir> Kubu: ugh, it generally doesn't work that way :P
[02:12] <lunitik> SpentCasing: edgy is still development software... if you can't figure out how to install, you probably shouldn't
[02:13] <SpentCasing> abattoir: i cant apt-get dist-upgrade, so im assuming i need to change my list
[02:13] <lunitik> SpentCasing: there is no other reason to dist-upgrade
[02:13] <Kubu> uhm
[02:13] <SpentCasing> im on brezzy 5.10
[02:13] <SpentCasing> *breezy
[02:13] <Moataz> hi
[02:13] <abattoir> SpentCasing: are you trying to upgrade to dapper/edgy?
[02:13] <lunitik> SpentCasing: /etc/apt/sources.list ... all cases of 'breezy' change to 'dapper'
[02:14] <lunitik> abattoir: you think he should be running edgy? heh
[02:14] <abattoir> lunitik: no, i'm asking him what he is trying to do
[02:14] <Moataz> I want to but a DVDRW, Will it be detected automatically after installation? or I need to take certain steps or even reinstall the os?
[02:14] <SpentCasing> abattoir: i just want to upgrade from breezy to dapper
[02:14] <lunitik> Moataz: data dvd's will work ootb
[02:14] <abattoir> Moataz: should be detected
[02:15] <abattoir> !upgrade
[02:15] <lunitik> SpentCasing: see what I just said
[02:15] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:15] <SpentCasing> lunitik: right
[02:15] <abattoir> SpentCasing: ^^^ follow the instructions for breezy->dapper
[02:15] <Moataz> and i will be able to burn discs instanty?
[02:15] <SpentCasing> thanks
[02:15] <morghanphoenix> would a breezy package work right on dapper? Fluxbox specifically.
[02:16] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: unlikely
[02:16] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: do libc's match on dapper and breezy?
[02:16] <Moataz> just for my information, does installing a new cpu requires reinstalling the os also?
[02:16] <morghanphoenix> Unsure, I never used breezy.
[02:16] <BazziR> Moataz: usually not
[02:16] <lunitik> Moataz: no
[02:17] <felixjet> mmmm, how can i see the videos of windows media ? that online videos in the websites
[02:17] <lunitik> BazziR: can you think of a case where the answer would be "yes"?
[02:17] <Moataz> so i only need that if the motherboard fails and i get a new one?
[02:17] <lunitik> felixjet: w32codecs
[02:17] <BazziR> lunitik: going 32->64bit and wanting a 64bit OS ;)
[02:17] <lunitik> Moataz: just swap harddrives... and install a new kernel
[02:17] <abattoir> lunitik: or a new harddisk :P
[02:17] <twosouls82> lunitik: when the new is 64 instead of 32 bit and you want the system to be 64bit
[02:17] <felixjet> lunitik: thats the codec... i need the windows media plugin for firefox
[02:18] <Moataz> lunitik: that for a new cpu or a motherboard?
[02:18] <DexterF> how do I get the file list of a not installed package at the cli?
[02:18] <twosouls82> hehe someone beat me
[02:18] <DexterF> dpkg -c won't work
[02:18] <lunitik> twosouls82: then you will probably just reinstall... sure... but today... 64bit software outside the kernel gives you very little performance difference
[02:19] <lunitik> DexterF: surely its easier to use apt-file to search for the file instead?
[02:19] <DexterF> lunitik: I want the entire content of a package, not a file
[02:20] <twosouls82> lunitik: true and since I don't like the hassle, I have a 32 bit 64 bit sys
[02:22] <lunitik> In almost 6 years... never
[02:22] <DexterF> good for you.
[02:22] <lunitik> DexterF: what are you trying to actually do?]
[02:23] <twosouls82> dpkg -L <pkname>
[02:23] <lunitik> DexterF: still looking for where ndiswrapper put the file?
[02:23] <DexterF> wanna see where the files of a package would go if I installed it
[02:23] <lunitik> twosouls82: thats for installed packages
[02:23] <twosouls82> true, and he didn't ask that?
[02:23] <twosouls82> my bad
[02:23] <DexterF> huh? ndiswrapper?
[02:24] <twosouls82> DexterF: use http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:24] <twosouls82> it has a nice form to query the files
[02:25] <DexterF> I suspect the package to fuck up things if I install it. Look, I just wanna do it, not explain why, ok?
[02:25] <twosouls82> amen DexterF
[02:26] <DexterF> twosouls82: link almost slipped by my attention over this "discussion"... thanks
[02:26] <twosouls82> DexterF: it isn't even a odd question, hence the page ;)
[02:27] <DexterF> its a dapper package?!
[02:27] <Dendron> I anyone else getting garbled sound when running this Ninetendo emulator.  Its sweet. Just sound is messy. Someone check to confirm. http://vnes.thatsanderskid.com/
[02:27] <lunitik> twosouls82: where do I recognize your name from? planetkde perhaps?
[02:27] <twosouls82> heh beats me lunitik
[02:27] <morghanphoenix> I get garbled sound whenever I run anything except for MP3 & DVDs
[02:27] <DexterF> (should mention I only have kub in a vm so I can support friends to whom I recommended it... I usually run Slackware...)
[02:27] <twosouls82> :)
[02:28] <twosouls82> DexterF: rather not tell that :P
[02:28] <DexterF> ;)
[02:28] <Niy_glaedr> !start
[02:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <twosouls82> DexterF: what was confusing you?
[02:29] <DexterF> twosouls82: me :P I was thinking dapper was 5.10 for a moment. nevermind.
[02:29] <twosouls82> L)
[02:29] <DexterF> still boggles my mind why there's 2.6.11 headers in dapper
[02:29] <DexterF> as, like someone mentioned it was shipped with 2.6.15
[02:30] <lunitik> DexterF: I don't see that site giving me ROM's to download? If you can download them, tried zsnes?
[02:30] <msm> hi all
[02:30] <twosouls82> DexterF: :) dunno, I had 2.6.15 since the start
[02:30] <DexterF> lunitik: ???
[02:30] <msm> Excuse me! Should someone say me how to set Firefox as default browser on kubuntu?
[02:30] <lunitik> DexterF: where did I lose you?
[02:31] <morghanphoenix> snes9xexpress works great.
[02:31] <DexterF> lunitik: ROMs?
[02:31] <DexterF> what?
[02:31] <twosouls82> msm: set it in kcontrol
[02:31] <lunitik> DexterF: game images...
[02:31] <DexterF> what are you on about?
[02:31] <DexterF> (?!??!?!)
[02:31] <Niy_glaedr> '
[02:31] <twosouls82> lunitik: pay attention dude, it was Dendron
[02:31] <lunitik> DexterF: you're trying to use a Nintendo emulator... and don't know about ROM's?
[02:32] <morghanphoenix> Wrong capital D
[02:32] <girl_next_door> hi
[02:32] <twosouls82> may that be the quote of the year "Wrong capital D" :P
[02:33] <twosouls82> hi girl_next_door
[02:33] <girl_next_door> hi2
[02:33] <msm> twosouls82: in which item I can find this setting?
[02:34] <lunitik> msm: KControl > KDE Components > File Assosiations > text > html ... remove Konqi from its list...
[02:34] <twosouls82> kcontrol -> kde components -> component chooser -> web browser
[02:34] <morghanphoenix> what's the diferance between gzip & bzip2?
[02:34] <twosouls82> and don't listen to that lunitik solution
[02:34] <msm> twosouls82: Ok thanks. bye
[02:34] <Dexter_F> ah, great, my ISP fscked up again...
[02:34] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: pretty much everything except its goal
[02:34] <lunitik> twosouls82: your method works... as does mine  :/
[02:35] <twosouls82> lunitik: this IS the way
[02:35] <twosouls82> and he asked for that
[02:35] <twosouls82> not A solution
[02:35] <Dexter_F> msm: in kcontrol, kde components
[02:35] <lunitik> twosouls82: whatever...
[02:35] <morghanphoenix> Trying to install something and I've got two identical packages, except for extension.
[02:36] <lunitik> twosouls82: in kde there is at least 4 ways to do everything... calling your way the right way is idiotic
[02:36] <twosouls82> lunitik: you should join a club that want to discuss things like that
[02:36] <lunitik> twosouls82: both methods change the same config file btw
[02:36] <morghanphoenix> There's only one thing that's always the right way
[02:37] <morghanphoenix> And that's making backups
[02:37] <morghanphoenix> Always the right thing to do
[02:38] <comadore> HI Can somebody tell me how to off X serwer ??
[02:38] <Dexter_F> how to what?
[02:38] <comadore> becouse i can't install NVIDIA drivers
[02:38] <comadore> X.org
[02:38] <lunitik> comadore: /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[02:38] <comadore> ok ;)
[02:38] <lunitik> comadore: stick sudo infront of that
[02:38] <Dexter_F> ah
[02:39] <lunitik> comadore: just to get X going though... can just use 'nv' as video Driver...
[02:39] <lunitik> comadore: won't get you 3d prettiness... but it'll work
[02:40] <comadore> Stopping K Display Manager: kdm not running/etc/init.d/kdm: line 109: kill: (4779) - Operacja niedozwolona
[02:40] <comadore> wjat have i do ?
[02:40] <lunitik> twosouls82: ahh... from your(?) emoticon set...
[02:40] <lunitik> comadore: then X shouldn't be running?
[02:40] <twosouls82> lunitik: might be.. but remember all emoticons are stolen except for the clown
[02:41] <comadore> yes
[02:41] <comadore> X must be off..
[02:41] <comadore> ??
[02:42] <twosouls82> comadore: you could try "/etc/init.d/x11-common stop"
[02:42] <lunitik> twosouls82: works for me... most of my contacts are on MSN... nice to actually see their emoticons...  I will remove mine by then
[02:42] <lunitik> comadore: return anything?
[02:43] <lunitik> twosouls82: heh... I don't upload them anywhere... would likely offend lots of people stealing from like 20 sets...
[02:43] <comadore> lutnik  PL ??
[02:43] <lunitik> comadore: what?
[02:43] <twosouls82> lunitik: then let me know, and I will upload it
[02:43] <twosouls82> :D
[02:43] <comadore> hey
[02:43] <lunitik> comadore: did 'ps -e | grep X' return anything?
[02:44] <comadore> if i used command like "xkill" and i push on my background how i can run again ?;/
[02:44] <twosouls82> or even 'pidof X'
[02:44] <lunitik> twosouls82: no, because X isn't the process name  ;)
[02:44] <lunitik> twosouls82: I'm just too lazy to type Xorg
[02:44] <twosouls82> pidof X
[02:44] <twosouls82> 12288
[02:45] <nickste> I'm busy using this guide: http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060426000315224  to install XGL and Compiz. I'm getting an error in that it can't find the cgwd package. Any ideas?
[02:45] <lunitik> twosouls82: that shouldn't work... because its not the process name... thats like pidof a returning amaroks process id  :/
[02:46] <twosouls82> pidof Xorg
[02:46] <twosouls82> twosouls82@psycho:~/Compile$
[02:46] <twosouls82> nothing
[02:47] <lunitik> !find cgwd
[02:47] <morghanphoenix> Moment of truth, resetting to see if everything works, glad I have backups just in case.
[02:48] <ubotu> Package/file cgwd does not exist in dapper
[02:48] <lunitik> !search cgwd
[02:48] <ubotu> Found:
[02:48] <lunitik> !find cgwd edgy
[02:48] <ubotu> Package/file cgwd does not exist in edgy
[02:48] <lunitik> hmm
[02:48] <nickste> doh :(
[02:49] <nickste> it says I need these repositories: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main & deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main  ... which i have done
[02:49] <twosouls82> lunitik: it IS NOT... don't just tell ppl something... instead look at 'dpkg -L xserver-xorg | grep xorg' and at 'dpkg -L xserver-xorg | grep X' and see the truth
[02:49] <twosouls82> :)
[02:50] <nevena> cao svima
[02:50] <lunitik> twosouls82: ps -e | grep X   :/
[02:51] <twosouls82> lunitik: that is only the formal name of the server... that's why it is stated xorg there
[02:51] <twosouls82> that aren't the binaries names
[02:51] <twosouls82> :D
[02:51] <twosouls82> s/stated/statet
[02:52] <lunitik> nickste: updated after adding?
[02:53] <nickste> yep... just read now on beerorkid that you need to add "main-amd64" on the end of its' repository
[02:54] <fpiadmin> !mail
[02:54] <ubotu> mail is another medium to communicate. Ubuntu mailinglists can be found at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[02:54] <fpiadmin> hello !
[02:54] <twosouls82> hi
[02:54] <nickste> lunatik: explain more please
[02:54] <fpiadmin> I am looking for the command line 'mail' command
[02:54] <fpiadmin> in what package is that ??
[02:55] <Dexter_F> fpiadmin: sendmail, I think
[02:55] <fpiadmin> not 'THE' sendmail ?
[02:55] <lunitik> nickste: Xgl feels hackish... AIGLX is more thought out, and is merged into X tree
[02:55] <Dexter_F> fpiadmin: no, the other sendmail
[02:55] <lunitik> fpiadmin: most MTA's link to /usr/bin/sendmail for compatibility reasons
[02:55] <nickste> ok... I'm using this tut: http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060426000315224 to get a "pimped" desktop... can I do the same with AIGLX, and if so.. how?
[02:56] <lunitik> fpiadmin: also /usr/bin/mail etc also
[02:56] <fpiadmin> hm apt-get install sendmail installs 'THE' sendmail, I don't need that, just need the 'mail' command
[02:56] <fpiadmin> I am sure it exists outside 'THE sendmail'
[02:56] <khirr> guys
[02:56] <khirr> how can i change my pass since konsole?
[02:57] <fpiadmin> yeah but in (k)ubuntu 6.06 it's not standard avaiable
[02:57] <lunitik> fpiadmin: Compiz is what creates the effects... Xgl and AIGLX are simply backend's providing the ability.
[02:57] <khirr> sudo passwd?
[02:57] <fpiadmin> I just want my script to be able to mail stuff without installing sendsnail
[02:57] <khirr> what is the command to change the pass?
[02:57] <Dexter_F> passwd
[02:57] <Dexter_F> just passwd
[02:57] <flaccid> fpiadmin: you need a local MTA of some sort on linux
[02:57] <khirr> thanks
[02:57] <Dexter_F> meh
[02:57] <lunitik> fpiadmin: postfix and exim both link to sendmail... using 'sendmail' would work... and would use whatever mta you have installed...
[02:58] <lunitik> fpiadmin: ls -l /usr/bin/sendmail and /usr/bin/mail
[02:58] <lunitik> Hmm, actually my Kubuntu box doesn't have that symlink  :/
[02:59] <flaccid> scripts should call sendmail binary and not mail :)
[02:59] <flaccid> it just needs to be a sendmail compatible MTA
[03:01] <fpiadmin> luntik: I have no /usr/bin/sendmail or /usr/bin/mail
[03:01] <fpiadmin> luntik: I apt-get install postifx, but doesn't give mail or sendmail command
[03:01] <lunitik> fpiadmin: install postfix or (prefered mta)
[03:01] <lunitik> fpiadmin: Kubuntu doesn't install one by default apparently
[03:01] <fpiadmin> luntik: I think the 'mail' command is gone since 6.06
[03:01] <fpiadmin> luntik: duh !
[03:02] <Dexter_F> http://www.xkcd.com/c149.html
[03:02] <lunitik> fpiadmin: duh? I think its bad actually... users have to actually pay attention to log files instead of being sent mail about any issues...
[03:03] <lunitik> fpiadmin: not having it listen to external ports is one thing... its useful though
[03:03] <flaccid> fpiadmin: symlink it
[03:03] <khirr> guys
[03:03] <khirr> one more error
[03:03] <khirr> i cant install opera
[03:03] <khirr> say dpkg is using pot other process
[03:03] <khirr> and i dont have other process runing
[03:03] <ce> Hi, i have some trouble to spindown my disk.. i have a thinkpad z61m with sata. Anyone know the problem? hdparm just give errors
[03:04] <khirr> T_T
[03:04] <khirr> ?
[03:04] <fpiadmin> flaccid: symlik it ? as in 'ln -s it mail' ?
[03:05] <khirr> is for 32its version?
[03:05] <lunitik> khirr: sudo pkill dpkg ; sudo dpkg -i opera-whatever.deb
[03:05] <lunitik> fpiadmin: ln -s /usr/bin/postfix /usr/bin/sendmail
[03:05] <fpiadmin> luntik: pay attention to log files ?
[03:05] <khirr> i'll check
[03:05] <lunitik> fpiadmin: umm, yeah
[03:06] <lunitik> fpiadmin: unless you don't care about security and errors etc...
[03:06] <fpiadmin> luntik: I feed them into splunk
[03:06] <fpiadmin> muhahaha
[03:07] <khirr> cant
[03:07] <lunitik> khirr: stick 'sudo' infront and try again
[03:07] <lunitik> wait
[03:07] <khirr> (:(
[03:07] <lunitik> wrong issue....
[03:08] <Dexter_F> lunitik: dude you didn't just recommend someone to kill off dpkg without checking if its doing something critical like upgrading packages or so?
[03:08] <lunitik> khirr: why does it say dpkg doesn't wanna die?
[03:08] <Dexter_F> khirr: stop it
[03:08] <khirr> i dunno
[03:08] <lunitik> Dexter_F: why not? god invented dpkg -f install for a reason  :/
[03:08] <Dexter_F> khirr: you most likely have dpkg running on a console doing something. find it. end it *porperly*
[03:08] <flaccid> fpiadmin: yes
[03:08] <khirr> if i restart, the proccess will die?
[03:09] <Dexter_F> *properly
[03:09] <lunitik> khirr: just do what I said  :/
[03:09] <khirr> i did
[03:09] <khirr> but cant stop
[03:09] <flaccid> heh splunk rules the world. pitty its so expensive
[03:09] <lunitik> khirr: why does it say it can't stop?
[03:09] <khirr> i've closed all konsole
[03:10] <lunitik> khirr: umm... then fire one up and do it again  :/
[03:10] <khirr> i'll restart
[03:10] <khirr> lets see
[03:10] <lunitik> khirr: no need to restart!!!!!!!
[03:11] <lunitik> Dexter_F: If it was doing something important, it would have been done by now... else user would at least KNOW what its doing...
[03:11] <lunitik> Dexter_F: I fail to see the drama in what I recommended? You're new to Debian huh?
[03:12] <Dexter_F> no, I'm new to Kub.
[03:12] <lunitik> Dexter_F: I've used Debian for 6 years... Sid no less... and rarely encounter issues
[03:12] <Dexter_F> a user knowing what he's doing, good one.
[03:13] <lunitik> Dexter_F: user just has to do what I tell them  :/
[03:13] <lunitik> Dexter_F: would be nice if user could actually give feedback so I know whats going on... but can't even do that  :/
[03:13] <flaccid> i think its a good idea to try and send the proper signal first instead of outright killing. imo.
[03:13] <khirr> nice
[03:13] <khirr> this run :D
[03:14] <Dexter_F> besides I learned the hard way not to kill off dpkg or other apps using the package db, but then again - hey, do as you want
[03:14] <lunitik> "Why does it say it can't die" "I'll just restart"... annoying
[03:14] <collin> i installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and after I login to kde it says "couldn't start kstartupconfig please check installation", any ideas?
[03:15] <flaccid> lunitik: if you cannot end a proces with the correct signal or kill, use kill -9 processname as last resort
[03:15] <lunitik> Dexter_F: dpkg doesn't have a package db like rpm.... its just files in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[03:15] <lunitik> flaccid: no shit... user hadn't even told me the error though... could have just been they didn't use sudo  :/
[03:15] <flaccid> err thats kill -9 pid
[03:16] <Dexter_F> it not really hard to see my point unless you want.
[03:16] <lunitik> Dexter_F: Your point is invalid... I'm trying to enlighten you as to why
[03:17] <Dexter_F> go enlighten me, mr 6-years-deb. (my mom has been driving a car for 25 years and still can't change a spark plug)
[03:18] <flaccid> lunitik: [2006-10-11 00:14]  <lunitik> "Why does it say it can't die" "I'll just restart"... annoying
[03:18] <collin> i installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and after I login to kde it says "couldn't start kstartupconfig please check installation", any ideas?
[03:18] <lunitik> flaccid: yes.. its annoying because user ignored my question......
[03:18] <khirr> guys, how can i install one file .tar
[03:18] <flaccid> yeah i think khirr is from peru or something. non-english maybe
[03:19] <lunitik> khirr: you don't want to... find a .deb
[03:19] <Dexter_F> pretty big tone recommending people thing based on inaccurate and partly assumed information imo...
[03:19] <lunitik> khirr: or an rpm, and use alien to produce a .deb
[03:19] <khirr> but, is flash
[03:19] <khirr> plugins for opera
[03:19] <Tm_T> !flash
[03:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:19] <flaccid> khirr: you can symlink to the flash plugins with opera
[03:19] <Tm_T> khirr: look those
[03:19] <morghanphoenix> How does one add a newly installed window manager to KDM?
[03:20] <khirr> where?
[03:20] <flaccid> morghanphoenix: if installed from a package, it should come up in the login manager as an option
[03:20] <flaccid> khirr: i look for URL now
[03:20] <morghanphoenix> installed from source
[03:20] <khirr> thanks
[03:21] <flaccid> morghanphoenix: read the doco of the WM
[03:21] <flaccid> there is 1 xorg file to edit to add the entry, but you should read the doco
[03:21] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: where in the Valley are you?
[03:21] <morghanphoenix> eh?
[03:22] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: You're in Phoenix aren't you?
[03:22] <collin> i installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and after I login to kde it says "couldn't start kstartupconfig please check installation", any ideas?
[03:22] <khirr> how can i put opera as my prefery browser?, i dont wanna use konqueror
[03:22] <morghanphoenix> No, it's my last name
[03:22] <flaccid> khirr: http://www.opera.com/linux/docs/plugins/install/#flash . however if you have flash installed from ubuntu source then you can symlink or just add the plugin dir to opera prefs
[03:22] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: ahh... using Qwest... thought that was a local company mostly...
[03:23] <khirr> i'll check now
[03:23] <morghanphoenix> All over the pacific northwest, can't seem to get anybody but them.
[03:23] <flaccid> morghanphoenix: which window manager?
[03:23] <morghanphoenix> Fluxbox
[03:23] <khirr> thanks for the informatio flaccid
[03:23] <khirr> :D
[03:23] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: why didn't you just install the package?
[03:24] <morghanphoenix> Couldn't find one for dapper
[03:24] <morghanphoenix> only breezy
[03:24] <flaccid> np khirr
[03:24] <lunitik> !find fluxbox
[03:24] <ubotu> Found: fluxbox
[03:24] <Dexter_F> khirr: in kde control center -> components -> browser put "opera -newpage"
[03:24] <flaccid> so which wm is it, morghan?
[03:24] <lunitik> flaccid: flux
[03:24] <morghanphoenix> yeah
[03:24] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install fluxbox
[03:24] <flaccid> !fluxbox
[03:24] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[03:25] <morghanphoenix> I'm gonna have to get new repos
[03:25] <khirr> my menu is in spanish
[03:25] <morghanphoenix> I keep having problems
[03:25] <khirr> ;S
[03:25] <flaccid> is flux, fluxbox?
[03:25] <lunitik> morghanphoenix: 0.9.14 is in dapper universe
[03:25] <lunitik> flaccid: no... its a flux copacitor
[03:25] <khirr> thanks
[03:25] <khirr> i did
[03:25] <flaccid> sick
[03:25] <collin> i installed kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu and after I login to kde it says "couldn't start kstartupconfig please check installation", any ideas?
[03:26] <Dexter_F> khirr: first row, last item (compenents here)
[03:26] <flaccid> i need a delorian now
[03:26] <lunitik> collin: we saw the first time... and if we knew the answer, we'd have helped you
[03:26] <collin> lunitik: sorry, i thought that no one saw, thanks for replying
[03:26] <Dexter_F> khirr: there left row, last item ("standard components")
[03:27] <lunitik> collin: try back in a few hours or something... maybe someone will be here that is knowledgeable to it...
[03:27] <Dexter_F> there should be an entry about web browser
[03:27] <flaccid> collin: this may help. don't know if its the same issue. google might help further. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=1667054
[03:27] <lunitik> collin: or try #debian-kde (don't tell them its kubuntu though) or #kde... maybe they'll be able to help
[03:27] <khirr> my prefery browser is now opera :D
[03:27] <morghanphoenix> Something is seriously wrong here, packages aren't there when I try it to begin with, then I try again and they're there?
[03:28] <morghanphoenix> apt couldn't find xine the other day
[03:28] <azzco> Hi I'm trying to create a /home partition... I've made the partion But I don't know how to move everything and make ubuntu use my partition from the start...
[03:28] <flaccid> azzco: us /home currently mounted?
[03:28] <flaccid> us=is
[03:28] <lunitik> azzco: make sure the user is assigned the dir... via /etc/passwd
[03:28] <nickste> does one get beryl for kubuntu  64, and ATI?
[03:29] <lunitik> azzco: as for moving data... cp and mv ...
[03:29] <azzco> flaccid you mean my current home or my new partition?
[03:29] <milian> i want to make a notify sound via shell using the program beep but I cant hear nothing :(
[03:29] <lunitik> azzco: (depending what you actually want to do)
[03:29] <flaccid> azzco: which one is it?
[03:29] <flaccid> new or old atm ?
[03:29] <azzco> I'm using home ATM... do I have to do this from a CD or something?
[03:29] <azzco> (using old)
[03:30] <morghanphoenix> I used mount /dev/hdb1 /home
[03:30] <nickste> !find beryl
[03:30] <morghanphoenix> that's all
[03:30] <ubotu> Package/file beryl does not exist in dapper
[03:30] <morghanphoenix> but I was working with a fresh install
[03:30] <flaccid> azzco: is your new partition blank and you need to copy the files first?
[03:30] <azzco> flaccid yes
[03:30] <flaccid> azzco: is the new partition mounted yet?
[03:30] <azzco> yes in "/newhome"
[03:31] <khirr> this RUN :D
[03:31] <khirr> i have flash suport now :D
[03:31] <flaccid> azzco: ok. what fs is the new partition?
[03:31] <flaccid> khirr: congrats
[03:31] <azzco> fs? o.O
[03:31] <khirr> like linux :D
[03:31] <flaccid> filesystem
[03:31] <azzco> ext3, flaccid
[03:31] <flaccid> sweet
[03:32] <flaccid> first do a sudo cp -R /home/* /newhome
[03:32] <flaccid> when its copied, unmount /newhome
[03:33] <fpiadmin> thx bye !
[03:33] <flaccid> then change your /etc/fstab for /home to the new /dev/hd$
[03:33] <flaccid> fpiadmin: cya
[03:33] <flaccid> then umount /home
[03:33] <khirr> guys, i wanna use "wine", what is the repository to can do it?
[03:33] <collin> i'm new to irc, how do i exit a channel?
[03:33] <flaccid> then sudo mount -a to remount all parts in /etc/fstab
[03:33] <flaccid> collin: /part or /part #channel
[03:33] <flaccid> !wine > khirr
[03:34] <collin> thanks
[03:34] <azzco> thx flaccid I'll try
[03:34] <flaccid> cool. hope you understand what the process is about
[03:34] <khirr> to can download with adept, what is the line that i should add
[03:34] <khirr> ?
[03:34] <flaccid> the package is called wine
[03:35] <flaccid> !wine
[03:35] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:35] <flaccid> um
[03:35] <flaccid> can't remember which source. can you select and install it in adept?
[03:35] <azzco> don't use the ubuntu repo
[03:35] <azzco> I'll check source
[03:36] <Dexter_F> abattoir: still around? I checked back my sources.list, all dapper. the headers are 2.6.11 for reasons beyond me.
[03:36] <milan> hey i want to listen to a online radio station, but rythmbox or xmms won't open it
[03:36] <flaccid> good question i'd like to know. how do you check which source a package is from?
[03:36] <milan> i think it's a codec issue but the wiki is offline
[03:37] <azzco> "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main" there's the repo from winehq.com
[03:37] <flaccid> thats it
[03:38] <abattoir> Dexter_F: that's weird...
[03:38] <azzco> BTW flaccid you wtoe /home/* you meant the * as the account name right? it's taking alot of time but I guess that my /home has grown a bit...
[03:39] <khirr> just i need wine to can run my exes files?
[03:39] <abattoir> flaccid: 'apt-cache madison <package>' ?
[03:39] <khirr> not need library?
[03:39] <azzco> khirr yes
[03:39] <khirr> where can i download these librarys?
[03:40] <flaccid> azzco: it will take time. you could of used the -v switch to see each file copying. before you unmount /newhome check that /newhome is correct.
[03:40] <azzco> khirr: you might have to add a .DLL or too to windows/system32 but else you should be able to run an exe with "wine *.exe"
[03:40] <flaccid> abattoir: thats sweet thanks mate
[03:40] <khirr> uhmm
[03:41] <flaccid> wine also appears to be in univserse. wine | 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 | http://au.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/universe Packages
[03:41] <khirr> yestarday i installed wine, but in AMD64 version, but doesnt run, told me install 32 bits version, that i did, but i remember install both library
[03:42] <azzco> flaccid it's recomended to download from winehq
[03:42] <flaccid> ok
[03:42] <flaccid> that version is  wine | 0.9.22~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1 | http://wine.budgetdedicated.com dapper/main Packages
[03:43] <thompa> !nvidia
[03:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:43] <flaccid> well thats what i get with apt-cahce
[03:43] <sF|Xemanth^> any guys using dapper x64 + ati fglx ?
[03:43] <flaccid> i have the winehq one installed
[03:43] <khirr> wow, lots librarys
[03:43] <azzco> I'll be AFK a while... I'll try to see how the new /home partion has turned out when I'll get back THX for the help flaccid
[03:44] <flaccid> ok cool
[03:49] <visik7> he
[03:49] <visik7> y
[03:50] <visik7> anyone with kde3.5.2 ?
[03:50] <[GuS] > people, there is a way to add auto. a Windows boot to the grub?
[03:50] <visik7> anyone with kde3.5.2 can go to amazon.com and tell me if it possible to see the page ?
[03:50] <flaccid> !grub [GuS]
[03:50] <ubotu> grub: GRand Unified Bootloader. In component main, is optional. Version 0.97-1ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 748 kB
[03:50] <[GuS] > flaccid, i've ask about doing that
[03:51] <[GuS] > not about grub...
[03:51] <[GuS] > i know how to add my hand
[03:51] <[GuS] > i am just askin if there is a auto. way...
[03:51] <flaccid> oh like a gui frontend?
[03:51] <[GuS] > no flaccid
[03:51] <[GuS] > to add the lines inside menu.list...
[03:52] <flaccid> what do you mean by auto?
[03:52] <[GuS] > automatically (auto.)
[03:52] <[GuS] >
[03:53] <flaccid> sorry i dont understand
[03:53] <KDEfanboy> visik7: try #ubuntu next
[03:53] <[GuS] > bueh...
[03:53] <DarkWizzard> guys http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26160/
[03:53] <KDEfanboy> i'd try if i had 3.5.2
[03:53] <[GuS] > again... i am askin for a way to add automatically the boot of WinXP on the grub menu list...
[03:54] <flaccid> so who does the adding?
[03:54] <flaccid> or what
[03:54] <DarkWizzard> sudo grub-update
[03:54] <DarkWizzard> if I remeber good
[03:55] <[GuS] > flaccid, when you install Ubuntu after a windows, it does
[03:55] <DarkWizzard> or smth like that
[03:55] <flaccid> i understand
[03:55] <[GuS] > so.. i want to know wich is the command
[03:55] <flaccid> DarkWizzard ^^
[03:55] <Tm_T> oh my...
[03:55] <flaccid> shmm i don't have that
[03:55] <[GuS] > that commmand does not exist DarkWizzard ..
[03:56] <DarkWizzard> wait then
[03:56] <flaccid> sudo update-grub
[03:56] <DarkWizzard> that then
[03:56] <DarkWizzard> :D
[03:56] <flaccid> worked for me then
[03:56] <flaccid> nice DarkWizzard
[03:56] <[GuS] > that yes, but that really take in count all partitions?
[03:56] <[GuS] > it think not
[03:57] <[GuS] > i think first must play with devices.map
[03:57] <flaccid> hmm sorry i don't know
[03:57] <[GuS] > and then execute that command
[03:57] <[GuS] > i will try later...
[03:57] <DarkWizzard> guys
[03:57] <DarkWizzard> does anyone have an ideea about this problem
[03:58] <DarkWizzard> ?
[03:58] <DarkWizzard>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26160/
[03:58] <[GuS] > lets see
[03:58] <[GuS] > Danker_,
[03:58] <[GuS] > DarkWizzard, *
[03:58] <[GuS] > that is not a problem
[03:58] <[GuS] > LInux uses all memory as cache
[03:58] <DarkWizzard> is that normal ?
[03:58] <DarkWizzard> yeah but
[03:58] <DarkWizzard> shouldn't it write to a swap partition
[03:59] <DarkWizzard> I checked it on other systems
[03:59] <[GuS] > and the releases when is using it
[03:59] <DarkWizzard> and it wasn't 0
[03:59] <exceswater> hi all
[03:59] <exceswater> can any1 help me with a kubuntu start problem ?
[03:59] <DarkWizzard> could you please paste your output to sudo cat /proc/meminfo |grep Swap
[03:59] <[GuS] > i always have low free memory.... and from what i know... Linux uses it all.. for a fast access when is needed
[03:59] <DarkWizzard> ok I understand that
[03:59] <abattoir> exceswater: what's the problem?
[03:59] <exceswater> hi abattoir
[03:59] <flaccid> [GuS] : thats normal
[04:00] <DarkWizzard> but it should use swap
[04:00] <[GuS] > of course
[04:00] <[GuS] > is normal
[04:00] <flaccid> i have 8mb free atm
[04:00] <richardh_> Hello everyone....I'm trying to connect my notebook to a TV to watch DVDs...anyone know how to do this properly?
[04:00] <abattoir> exceswater: hello
[04:00] <DarkWizzard> ok but my problem is this
[04:00] <DarkWizzard> SwapTotal:           0 kB
[04:00] <flaccid> only 192mb swap used
[04:00] <DarkWizzard> SwapFree:            0 kB
[04:00] <DarkWizzard> SwapCached:          0 kB
[04:00] <exceswater> it seems like everytime i start my pc the settings wizzards keeps ask about some things
[04:00] <DarkWizzard> is this normal ?
[04:00] <[GuS] > yes. why not?
[04:00] <exceswater> like language, location, the appearance
[04:00] <[GuS] > ha much ram do you have?
[04:00] <DarkWizzard> 256
[04:01] <exceswater> it seems like it doesn't remember the settings
[04:01] <exceswater> why ?
[04:01] <[GuS] > mm
[04:01] <azzco> flaccid: the copy was succesful but some files are owned by root now...
[04:01] <abattoir> exceswater: kpersonalizer?
[04:01] <flaccid> [GuS] : what you got for more /etc/fstab | grep -i swap
[04:01] <[GuS] > seems like your swap is not working...
[04:01] <flaccid> azzco: thats weird
[04:01] <[GuS] > flaccid, ?
[04:01] <DarkWizzard> yeah
[04:01] <flaccid> oops i meant that for DarkWizzard
[04:01] <DarkWizzard> thats what I suspect to
[04:01] <exceswater> something like that
[04:01] <DarkWizzard>  /dev/hda7 none swap sw 0 0
[04:02] <[GuS] > DarkWizzard, like is disabled.. or have not assigned some space for it
[04:02] <DarkWizzard> I looked in gparted
[04:02] <[GuS] > you have swap part?
[04:02] <exceswater> yes abattoir
[04:02] <DarkWizzard> and it says unknown filesystem for it
[04:02] <exceswater> kpersonalizer
[04:02] <DarkWizzard> yeah I have
[04:02] <exceswater> is starting everytime
[04:02] <[GuS] > so... thats the problem
[04:02] <abattoir> exceswater: open kate as root, 'kdesu kate /usr/bin/startkde'
[04:02] <DarkWizzard> but it was done when I installed breezy
[04:02] <[GuS] > and in /etc/fstab.. what do you have in swap line?
[04:03] <abattoir> exceswater: look for 'kpersonalizerrc General FirstLogin true'
[04:03] <DarkWizzard>  /dev/hda7 none swap sw 0 0
[04:03] <DarkWizzard> thats all
[04:03] <nikkiana> hey.... does anyone know if there's a better HTML editor/text pad type program for Linux other than Bluefish?
[04:03] <abattoir> exceswater: change true to false, and save that file
[04:03] <[GuS] > thats ok DarkWizzard  indeed
[04:03] <[GuS] > but try to format again the swap part
[04:03] <DarkWizzard> how
[04:03] <DarkWizzard> in qparted ?
[04:03] <[GuS] > yes
[04:03] <DarkWizzard> as linux swap
[04:03] <[GuS] > Q or Gparted
[04:03] <n8k99> nikiana: i like to use kate but you can also try Quanta
[04:03] <[GuS] > yes
[04:03] <abattoir> nikkiana: you want a full blown Web Dev env?
[04:03] <[GuS] > first
[04:03] <DarkWizzard> does it need a mount point ?
[04:04] <Dexter_F> abattoir: heh. weird. the build script now looked for the headers in /lib/modules/2.6.15-17... and it worked. never would have looked there in the first place and I'm totally clueless why it now sees them. but alright.
[04:04] <[GuS] > do mount | grep swap
[04:04] <[GuS] > be sure is not mounted
[04:04] <flaccid> DarkWizzard: what ya got for sudo fdisk -l | grep -i swap
[04:04] <[GuS] > (but for sure, is not)
[04:04] <DarkWizzard>  /dev/hda7            7801        7873      586341   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[04:04] <exceswater> abattoir:
[04:04] <abattoir> Dexter_F: well, it worked, so best not to worry about it :P
[04:04] <exceswater> it says it cannot connect to X server abattoir]
[04:04] <flaccid> [GuS] : swap is mount none. not shown in mount
[04:04] <DarkWizzard> I see
[04:04] <Dexter_F> abattoir: totally againt my nature but I'll try that for a change :)
[04:05] <DarkWizzard>  /dev/hda7            7801        7873      586341   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[04:05] <DarkWizzard> Is this ok ?
[04:05] <khirr> guys
[04:05] <n8k99> hi khirr
[04:05] <khirr> one program to can open my msn?
[04:05] <khirr> ello
[04:05] <[GuS] > so in gparted tells you unknow?
[04:05] <khirr> but not be gaim, kopete or aMSN
[04:05] <DarkWizzard> khirr: kopete,gaim
[04:05] <DarkWizzard> yeah it does
[04:05] <khirr> but, dont like..
[04:05] <[GuS] > thats weird
[04:05] <khirr> are ugly (:
[04:05] <n8k99> khirr: your msn email account or your instant messenger
[04:05] <[GuS] > try then to format
[04:06] <khirr> messenger
[04:06] <abattoir> exceswater: you dont see a kate window being launched?
[04:06] <shriphani> heya talking from fluxbox
[04:06] <DarkWizzard> can I mess up things to badly ?
[04:06] <flaccid> its fairly small number of cyls but yeah
[04:06] <[GuS] > at least it seems it not in use.. by showing you 0mb
[04:06] <shriphani> i actually like it
[04:06] <n8k99> khirr: you can get new themes for all those im clients
[04:06] <[GuS] > nop
[04:06] <exceswater> no
[04:06] <abattoir> Dexter_F: i'm guessing you did not have the headers installed for your current kernel version...
[04:06] <[GuS] > DarkWizzard, if you afraid
[04:06] <[GuS] > do that with Live CD
[04:06] <khirr> but, i wanna see them for exameple for email acc, and in kopete i cant
[04:06] <exceswater> it says it cannot conect to x server
[04:06] <[GuS] > (dapper live for example)
[04:06] <[GuS] > that comes with Qtparted
[04:07] <n8k99> khirr: you want to be able to send an email to a contact from kopete?
[04:07] <khirr> no
[04:07] <shriphani> kde is trying to be osx isnt it ?
[04:07] <flaccid> yeah check the start and end in fdisk on the live boot for a start
[04:07] <[GuS] > shriphani,  ??
[04:07] <n8k99> khirr: what is it you are trying to do?
[04:07] <DarkWizzard> ok I'll try formating it
[04:07] <khirr> i wanna see my contac list for email, not for name to show
[04:07] <n8k99> i see
[04:07] <shriphani> [GuS] , what ?
[04:07] <abattoir> exceswater: ok, go to /usr/bin in konqueror, right click starkde and select 'Edit as Root'
[04:07] <Dexter_F> abattoir: possible I booted -386 instead of -k7, yes. tho 386 headers were installed, too. well, ok, I got it cleaned up and can scan...
[04:08] <[GuS] > shriphani, kde its own style
[04:08] <exceswater> done
[04:08] <exceswater> thanks mate :d
[04:08] <exceswater> it was anoying
[04:08] <n8k99> you can link the contact list in kopete to your contacts in Kontact, khirr
[04:08] <abattoir> exceswater: :)
[04:08] <[GuS] > did you look into Plasma? Oxigen icons shriphani ?
[04:08] <khirr> no no, thats no the problem
[04:08] <[GuS] > is the next kde look
[04:08] <n8k99> khirr and you can chose to display the name as your contacts appear in you addressbook instead of msn
[04:08] <shriphani> [GuS] , nope
[04:08] <n8k99> khirr: ok
[04:08] <shriphani> could you gimme a link
[04:09] <khirr> how?
[04:09] <khirr> how?'???
[04:09] <[GuS] > http://www.oxygen-icons.org/ - http://plasma.kde.org/
[04:09] <khirr> i wanna see kopete list contacts for email
[04:09] <n8k99> khirr: right click on the contact in your buddy list, select properties
[04:10] <khirr> ok
[04:10] <khirr> then?
[04:10] <n8k99> khirr: then change the address book link for that contact
[04:10] <khirr> no there is opt to email
[04:10] <khirr> just to put the name that i want
[04:11] <khirr> are about 200 contacts...hard work
[04:11] <LjL> what's the correct way to make yourself invisible on kopete (jabber network) to a signle contact?
[04:11] <n8k99> khirr: yes I know, I haven't ofund a better way to link them but when I am in Kmail and get an email from someone, it tells me if they are availbel for chat
[04:12] <khirr> where can i download kmail?
[04:13] <n8k99> khirr: do you have kontact?
[04:13] <qkr> hi
[04:13] <n8k99> khirr: it should be included in kubuntu
[04:13] <khirr> nop
[04:13] <flaccid> khirr: if not open your favourite package manager and install package kmail
[04:13] <n8k99> khirr: what is teh default email client you have?
[04:14] <n8k99> flaccid: thanks
[04:14] <flaccid> its in main
[04:14] <khirr> no one
[04:14] <flaccid> interesting
[04:14] <flaccid> don't know where that went
[04:15] <flaccid> yeah totally
[04:15] <qkr> when I start Adept Manager I get this message "You will not be able to change system settings, because another process is using the packaging system database". What to do?
[04:15] <abattoir> !adept crash fix
[04:15] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[04:15] <abattoir> qkr: ^^^^^
[04:15] <n8k99> that's part of what makes kubuntu K_ubuntu
[04:15] <qkr> thanks
[04:16] <abattoir> qkr: execute the first command in a terminal
[04:17] <exceswater> abattoir
[04:18] <exceswater> another question
[04:18] <exceswater> i have installed some things from adept
[04:18] <abattoir> exceswater: sure
[04:18] <exceswater> and i cannot find them on menu
[04:18] <exceswater> on games
[04:18] <exceswater> i have to mention that i am kinda noob
[04:18] <abattoir> exceswater: you installed them now?
[04:18] <exceswater> few mins ago
[04:18] <abattoir> exceswater: did you restart KDE after installation?
[04:18] <abattoir> exceswater: ok, fine
[04:18] <exceswater> yes
[04:19] <abattoir> exceswater: oh, it doesnt show up after you restart KDE?
[04:19] <exceswater> nope
[04:19] <abattoir> exceswater: ok wait
[04:19] <exceswater> and before i had same problem
[04:19] <exceswater> and i still have
[04:19] <abattoir> exceswater: run 'kbuildsycoca --incremental' in a terminal
[04:19] <exceswater> some games and things installed in adept never show up
[04:20] <exceswater> error : no database available
[04:20] <abattoir> exceswater: ignore that
[04:20] <abattoir> exceswater: see if the menu has been updated
[04:21] <exceswater> not really
[04:22] <qkr> I want to install apache and php, anything I need to know or just select packages in adept and go?
[04:22] <abattoir> !lamp
[04:22] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[04:22] <abattoir> qkr: ^^^ that might help
[04:23] <qkr> thanks
[04:23] <qkr> I have already installed mysql
[04:24] <exceswater> why i cannot see installed things ?
[04:24] <abattoir> exceswater: in the menu?
[04:24] <exceswater> yes abattoir
[04:24] <exceswater> and nowhere
[04:24] <exceswater> i dunno where to look for them
[04:24] <abattoir> exceswater: which app is this?
[04:25] <exceswater> for example: robotour
[04:25] <n8k99> execswater: alt+f2 then type robotour in the input field
[04:26] <Hawkwind> n8k99: I believe he's trying to get the app to show in his menus
[04:26] <Hawkwind> Which is what abattoir is helping him with
[04:26] <daka_> how to reorganize repositories??.re-install..not working well now
[04:26] <exceswater> yes Hawkwind
[04:26] <abattoir> hi Hawkwind :)
[04:26] <exceswater> and robotour is not the only thing that i cannot find
[04:26] <Hawkwind> daka_: You can edit your /etc/apt/sources.list manually
[04:26] <Hawkwind> abattoir: Good morning
[04:26] <n8k99> Hawkwind: isn't there an applet that helps add non-kde items to teh menu
[04:27] <n8k99> or a script
[04:27] <daka_> hawkwind... I tried using other peoples's suggestions but did not work
[04:27] <exceswater> also gnurobot
[04:28] <Hawkwind> n8k99: He could run kmenuedit and add them manually
[04:32] <mambru> Hi! I updated from dapper to edgy and almost everything seems to work fine. The only problem comes with the storage media option of system menu, now it limits itself to open the /media dir instead of the media:/ kioslave, and i can't mount partitions from konqueror, anybody had the same problem?
[04:32] <azzco> flaccid: are you still there?
[04:35] <flaccid> yeah barely
[04:35] <crusty__> hallo!     help is required..how to make kubuntu see my USB PC webcamera SN0C105
[04:35] <azzco> okay I'm about to edit my fstab... but I'm not sure if I might screw anything up...
[04:36] <azzco> <mount point> for my new partition should be /home right, flaccid?
[04:36] <abattoir> mambru: /media is 'feature' rather than a 'problem' ;)
[04:36] <flaccid> yep
[04:36] <abattoir> !webcam
[04:36] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:36] <abattoir> crusty__: ^^^^ that might help
[04:36] <azzco> okay that's what I needed to hear :)
[04:37] <thompa> !grub
[04:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:37] <mambru> abattoir: so, how am I supposed to mount my vfat partition from konqueror, I don't mind calling mount manually, but I guess that's not the user-friendly way...
[04:38] <abattoir> mambru: you should have an option to mount in /media
[04:38] <thompa> is there a simple way to reinstall grub to the other hard drive?
[04:38] <crusty__> thank you very much...see what i can find...thanks again abattoir
[04:38] <abattoir> crusty__: no problem :)
[04:39] <Pompeio> Hello.
[04:39] <abattoir> mambru: you don't when you rt. click on the partition/drive?
[04:39] <mambru> abattoir: I fear I don't :-), not at least on the context menu
[04:39] <abattoir> mambru: is this a usb drive?
[04:39] <abattoir> i mean a usb flash drive?
[04:39] <thompa> neverming found section changing disk drub is installed to
[04:39] <mambru> abattoir: no, the windows partition
[04:40] <mambru> abattoir: but it happens with all partitions or media
[04:40] <thompa> if grub wont work well with sata , so it has to go on my IDE drive
[04:40] <mambru> abattoir: has happened with 2 dapper's i updated to edgy, and one fresh edgy install from last week
[04:40] <mambru> abattoir: maybe the spanish locales are causing the problem
[04:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hey buddies!? do you remember how is called the opensource firmware for routers ?
[04:41] <abattoir> mambru: i dont think so...
[04:41] <abattoir> mambru: i dont seem to have it too...
[04:42] <mambru> abattoir: :-) I've been searching for related bugs, but I didn't manage to find any
[04:42] <abattoir> mambru: on launchpad?
[04:42] <mambru> abattoir: yes
[04:44] <abattoir> mambru: i think it doesnt show because you'd need root privileges to mount it.... ?
[04:47] <mambru> abattoir: the user flag is set on fstab, plus the user belongs to the disk group
[04:47] <abattoir> mambru: ok, that wasn't the case here, so i thought of that
[04:47] <abattoir> mambru: because usb disks / cdroms work fine here
[04:49] <mambru> abattoir: running konqueror as root didn't show any mount option
[04:49] <abattoir> mambru: that might be because the mediamanager might not be running
[04:50] <mambru> abattoir: is that kded?
[04:50] <abattoir> mambru: i dont think its a part of kded, not sure though
[04:50] <phoenix_> wow, this is wierd
[04:51] <phoenix_> irc in konsole
[04:52] <hyper> hello abattoir :)
[04:52] <abattoir> hi hyper :)
[04:52] <hyper> hello trappist :)
[04:52] <intelikey> phoenix nothing wierd about that.         i have on gui running at all, about 90% of the time.
[04:52] <hyper> abattoir: you remember I asked you about streaming mp3 through ssh?
[04:52] <abattoir> hyper: no, i dont :P
[04:53] <hyper> abattoir: don't worry... I solved it now with gnump3d
[04:53] <trappist> hyper
[04:53] <mambru> abattoir: do you know which process name should i be looking for? (the name of the media manager process)
[04:54] <abattoir> mambru: no, that should be running as regular user, i meant for root
[04:54] <collin> why is it when I am running kde 900 mb of memory are used up and when I run gnome only 200 mb are used?
[04:54] <mambru> abattoir: oh, ok
[04:55] <mambru> collin: check the memory with the free command, it is more realistic
[04:55] <intelikey> hald ?
[04:55] <collin> mambru: it says that 974 mb are used
[04:56] <collin> xorg itself used like 280
[04:56] <mambru> collin: that is because xorgs maps the card's memory onto its process space
[04:57] <Hawkwind> collin: Linux handles memory completely different than Windows.  So most of it is probably cached which makes your system run faster as it's got stuff preloaded into memory
[04:57] <intelikey> you are reading the allocated (buffered) usage.  the real usage collin x uses about 5m iirc
[04:57] <mambru> collin: the -/+ buffers/cache line of free is what you should trust
[04:58] <collin> mambru: okay, then what is the mem line for
[04:58] <mambru> abattoir: I understood correctly that you were having the same problem I have?
[04:59] <abattoir> mambru: well, i can't see 'Mount' for hdd partitions, i see them for CD drives and usb flash drives
[04:59] <collin> with the -/+ buffers/cache line it say it is using 237 mb
[04:59] <mambru> collin: that includes cached files among other things that the kernel will ditch as soon as the memory is needed. It keeps them to minimize disk use
[05:00] <mambru> disk use -> disk access
[05:00] <intelikey> kubuntu will run in 64M of ram with no swap.   (not advised to do this.)
[05:01] <mambru> abattoir: I'll try a CD, and see if it works
[05:01] <collin> mambru: so the buffers/cache is what is really being used? and the Mem line is what?
[05:02] <mambru> collin: I believe it's total memory used by programs + libraries (maybe duped) + buffers/cache
[05:02] <intelikey> collin the mem line is what is being used.  just most of it is blank.   it's allocated for use by...  but empty.
[05:03] <collin> does gnome do the same? or is this just kde's way of speeding things up?
[05:04] <v3ctor> it is a linux thing..not gnome/kde
[05:04] <intelikey> and if you had 1000 G of ram  (and the kernel supporte that much) linux would use about 90% of the ram just to run kde/gnome/whatever.
[05:04] <intelikey> collin yes.  linux does that. not the DE
[05:05] <v3ctor> you can run linux without a DE and see the same thing
[05:05] <intelikey> but you would still have 999.9 G of free ram.
[05:05] <intelikey> yes indeed. v3ctor
[05:05] <Manyfold_> kde is so dam slow what can i do to speed things up?
[05:05] <collin> maybe the system moniters for gnome and kde are different, because ksysguard says memory used is 972 mb and in system info program in gnome say that mem used is 217 mb
[05:05] <intelikey> Mem:        255220      24016     231204          0        928      12676
[05:05] <intelikey> no gui running ^
[05:06] <mambru> abattoir: cd's (and usb drives I guess) work fine. I guess the problem started when I added noauto to my hdd partitions. In dapper it was possible and worked fine. I prefer that behaviour since in case of crash, only the mounted partitions would be left in inconsistent state
[05:06] <intelikey> but that's not the typical setup either.
[05:06] <v3ctor> the Mem free is physical memory, it is almost allocated imediatly into buffers and cache so it can beeasily accessed by the kernel
[05:07] <v3ctor> which is why we look at the buffer/cache to see what is actually being used at the time
[05:07] <collin> doesn't anyone know of a fix for phoenix bios hot keys on a toshiba labtop so i can change the screen brightness?
[05:07] <cplctfd> hi everyone
[05:09] <cplctfd> does anyone know where to find gnome themes? other than gnome-look
[05:10] <abattoir> cplctfd: try asking at #ubuntu :P
[05:10] <abattoir> mambru: i dont use noauto, so its not a problem for me, unless i manually unmount it, i still prefer 'mount' though ;)
[05:10] <Hawkwind> cplctfd: art.gnome.org ?
[05:10] <cplctfd> thx
[05:11] <intelikey> collin if you can get the key code then the app loadkeys can fix it.  but you will need the code you get and the code you want it to be....   i.e.  echo 'keycode 125 = Decr_Console' | loadkeys   <--- that sets the left winkey to do what alt+left-arrow does. in the console.   btw have you tried using the hot keys in the console to see if they work there ?
[05:11] <mambru> abattoir: I guess it can't be considered a flaw then. Out of the box works fine.
[05:12] <abattoir> mambru: well, i'd personally say it is a flaw...
[05:12] <abattoir> mambru: try filing a bug and see what the response is ;)
[05:13] <intelikey> they'll prolly just say "use pmount"
[05:13] <collin> intelikey: in the konsole, the hotkeys just make a ~
[05:13] <intelikey> mot konsole.  console.
[05:14] <intelikey> ctrl+alt+f1
[05:14] <TheGateKeeper> any kubuntu desktop devs in here?
[05:15] <intelikey> me realizes that if that's the first time he has pressed ctrl+alt+f1  he will probably reboot to get back to the gui....
[05:15] <intelikey> /
[05:15] <TheGateKeeper> intelikey: Ctrl + alt + f7
[05:16] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper: there are, you might get their attention at #kubuntu-devel , what do you need?
[05:16] <intelikey> TheGateKeeper heh only on a default system  :)
[05:17] <intelikey> yep there he went.
[05:17] <TheGateKeeper> abattoir: I am curious to know how they get a reasonable clean desktop with kde, when I have a go on other distros I seem to get a load of stuff I don't really want
[05:17] <intelikey> maybe i should hide now.
[05:18] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper: what do you mean? remove the icons from the desktop?
[05:18] <m4x1mum> how to append mp3 file to xmms?
[05:19] <m4x1mum> enqueue mp3 file
[05:19] <octan> omg
[05:19] <mambru> abattoir: I'll try to file a bug
[05:19] <abattoir> m4x1mum: click on the + button, the file open dialog should come up, then choose the file
[05:19] <abattoir> (if i remember xmms right ;) )
[05:20] <octan> engage brain :P
[05:20] <TheGateKeeper> abattoir: well when I install KDE I seem to get a lot of apps I don't want, I may be get 3 different text editors for instance, just seem to get a cluttered menu system, with kubuntu I like the menu layout
[05:20] <m4x1mum> erm not from xmms but is it possible to do it like windows? double-click the mp3 and it will automatically enqueue the file
[05:21] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper: yes, the devs put in a lot of hard work to make kubuntu clean and usable ;)
[05:22] <TheGateKeeper> abattoir: I was wouldering the stuff was all there, they just modify the menus, or if they manage to selectively install applications
[05:22] <pielgrzym> !pastebin
[05:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:23] <m4x1mum> anyone use krusader?
[05:23] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper: if i understand how it works correctly, only necessary applications are packaged, and, the devs include custom settings/menu entries etc.
[05:24] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper: kubuntu-default-settings is a package which controls many of KDE's configurations...
[05:24] <abattoir> !info kubuntu-default-settings
[05:24] <ubotu> kubuntu-default-settings: Default settings and artwork for the Kubuntu desktop. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.06-22 (dapper), package size 1970 kB, installed size 3080 kB
[05:24] <m4x1mum> is krusader similar to konquerer?
[05:25] <LivingCooler> I did an apt-get dist upgrade and it won't upgrade gcc, is that a seperate procedure?
[05:25] <Hawkwind> m4x1mum: It's a split screen file manager and also can not be used as a webbrowser
[05:26] <TheGateKeeper> abattoir: may be I need to go poking around kubuntu-desktop I know that is their main meta package
[05:26] <m4x1mum> so konquerer is like both file manager and a browser?
[05:27] <abattoir> TheGateKeeper: sure... you can get the source and look at it if you want too
[05:27] <_Shade_> is there a possibility to launch ubuntu cd from an iso image, since all my cd-roms are broken
[05:27] <intelikey> m4x1mum yes
[05:27] <|lostbyte|x> Hi guys.
[05:28] <m4x1mum> is kubuntu dependent on konquerer? like windows is dependent on IE?
[05:28] <intelikey> m4x1mum in a sense yes
[05:28] <gnomefreak> m4x1mum: yes
[05:28] <intelikey> kde will run without konqueror
[05:28] <cox377> Hello all, i wanna put a new hdd into this computer and install kubuntu on it, is it possible to make up a backup image of all the settings etc etc?
[05:29] <intelikey> gnome will run without nutilus too
[05:29] <m4x1mum> ooh so i can safely remove konquerer? Since I use Opera for web browser and probably krusader for file manager
[05:30] <v3ctor> is krusader even close to konqueror feature wise?
[05:31] <|lostbyte|x> v3ctor: what does krusader have ?
[05:31] <intelikey> m4x1mum try just disabling it in the settings.   you probably want icons on the desktop.  i think konq does that
[05:31] <gnomefreak> m4x1mum: thats gonna be touchy i think
[05:31] <v3ctor> |lostbyte|x: no idea?
[05:32] <TheGateKeeper> !backup
[05:32] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[05:32] <TheGateKeeper> cox377: ^^^^
[05:33] <cox377> TheGateKeeper: nice one mate
[05:33] <TheGateKeeper> cox377: np :-)
[05:33] <intelikey> m4x1mum if you "remove" konqueror as in removing the package it will take kde-core with it.     you can test   sudo mv /usr/bin/konqueror /home     and restart kde see what all error messages you get.
[05:34] <TheGateKeeper> m4x1mum: sounds like it would be safer just to remove it from your menus
[05:35] <m4x1mum> ooh
[05:35] <intelikey> safe ?     safe ?     if it removes all kde*  that doesn't crash linux... what do you mean safe ?
[05:36] <v3ctor> i don't see anough differences to make the switch
[05:37] <intelikey> sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg     is safe....
[05:38] <nikkiana> is there a way to make a button that will minimize all open windows if you click on it?
[05:38] <intelikey> v3ctor like i first said.  "<intelikey> m4x1mum try just disabling it in the settings."
[05:38] <Tm_T> nikkiana: you mean "show desktop" kicker applet?
[05:38] <v3ctor> nikkiana: you mean likea show-desktop button?
[05:38] <nikkiana> yeah
[05:38] <nikkiana> like that
[05:38] <v3ctor> there show be  one
[05:39] <intelikey> yeah there is a way.
[05:39] <Tm_T> nikkiana: it should be there already, right next to that kmenu icon
[05:39] <v3ctor> try looking in apptlets that you can add
[05:39] <v3ctor> applets* even
[05:39] <trappist> it's in the list of applets - search for 'show'
[05:39] <nikkiana> found it!
[05:39] <nikkiana> thanks :D
[05:40] <v3ctor> np
[05:40] <intelikey> right click on the taskbar add applet show desktop
[05:40] <larson9999> i thought i edited a pdf file in linux not long ago but can't find an program that does that now.  is there an OSS program that will do that in linux or am i smoking crack?
[05:41] <Tm_T> intelikey: I have only few windows in each desktop, no problems with those :)
[05:41] <trappist> intelikey: I don't use it, but I figure it musta been invented for a reason
[05:41] <larson9999> intelikey: i use that button all the time.
[05:41] <Tm_T> some people can't live without desktop icons
[05:41] <intelikey> larson9999 ah  and for what cause ?
[05:41] <v3ctor> different strokes for different folks
[05:42] <v3ctor> you could also use a different desktop ;)
[05:42] <larson9999> intelikey: to get to my desktop, silly
[05:42] <intelikey> Tm_T yeah i guess that's it.
[05:42] <Tm_T> I find desktop icons trashy
[05:42] <m4x1mum> but desktop icon provide quick access
[05:42] <larson9999> intelikey: just something i'm used to.  it's like a prefer non tabbed browsing because i just used to use alt+tab to switch
[05:42] <nikkiana> it's more because i temporarily store files on my desktop for work :)
[05:42] <Tm_T> but I understand that many people does use and like to use it
[05:42] <v3ctor> so can taskbar icons
[05:43] <raul12>  how t change KDE theme ???
[05:43] <|lostbyte|x> raul12: kcontrol.
[05:43] <n8k99> system settings>apperance
[05:43] <larson9999> if you don't like desktop icons, use a wm that doesn't allow them.  they're usually much faster, no?
[05:43] <m4x1mum> ooh i like tab browsing the first time i experience them :)
[05:43] <raul12>  i am not finding anything to change theme in system setting
[05:44] <intelikey> larson9999 no.
[05:44] <larson9999> intelikey: oh, the sites usually claim they are :)
[05:45] <raul12>  help plz
[05:45] <larson9999> so, no pdf editor in linux?
[05:45] <m4x1mum> in Opera i can just use 1, 2 to switch between tabs, then i can use alt+tab to switch between application
[05:45] <larson9999> free on that is
[05:45] <n8k99> raul12: under Look & Feel select Appearance
[05:45] <LjL> larson9999, you can *create* a PDF using several programs
[05:45] <intelikey> larson9999 only desktop that i know of that does not support desktop icons is  twm   it's fast yes.  the whole package is very tiny.
[05:45] <intelikey> !info twm
[05:45] <ubotu> twm: Tab window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 93 kB, installed size 276 kB
[05:45] <LjL> larson9999: as for editing an *existing* PDF, that wouldn't be straight forward under any system, i think
[05:45] <raul12>  look and feel where ??
[05:45] <intelikey> package size 93 kB,
[05:46] <n8k99> it's the second field of selections from the top
[05:46] <m4x1mum> its quite easy to edit PDF using adobe acrobat, in windows
[05:46] <collin> how do you change the login screen window back to gnome?
[05:46] <n8k99> Appearance is the one on teh left
[05:47] <n8k99> raul12: then when you are in Appearance, select Style
[05:47] <larson9999> LjL: i found a couple sites that talk about a long winded method.  i'll give it a go.
[05:47] <n8k99> raul12 or Windows Decorations
[05:47] <_Shade_> how can i install ubuntu from an iso image?
[05:47] <larson9999> m4x1mum: acrobat isn't free is it?
[05:47] <LjL> larson9999: well, for instance i can see there's a package called "ipe" that can output to pdf, and another package "pdftoipe" that can convert a PDF to ipe format
[05:47] <intelikey> does xpdf-utils not allow editing ?
[05:48] <raul12>  but their is no place to browse and install my theme
[05:48] <m4x1mum> nope its not free, but its the best in my  own experience
[05:48] <raul12>  in windows decoration
[05:48] <LjL> larson9999: or the "pstoedit" package also
[05:49] <raul12>  where i can install my theme ??
[05:49] <m4x1mum> and acrobat can do many things like adding javascript to documents, i dont even use that functionality hehehe
[05:49] <raul12>  ..............
[05:49] <intelikey> or windows
[05:50] <m4x1mum> well i deal with pdf all the time unfortunately
[05:50] <raul12>  their is no place to browse and install my theme
[05:50] <collin> how do you change the login screen window back to gnome?
[05:51] <LjL> collin: you mean the display manager? "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[05:52] <raul12>  help plz
[05:53] <narasimhan> collin :just for info , the setting is stored in the file /etc/X11/default-display-manager ..u can change /usr/bin/kdm to /usr/sbin/gdm
[05:53] <m4x1mum> aaaah from 43 upgradable to 28 package
[05:53] <intelikey> collin it may be that you don't want to change the login screen but the default session?   you can have many desktop environments installed and even running...  there is a menu to select the session on both the gdm and kdm greeters
[05:53] <LjL> raul12: perhaps run "kcontrol", go to Appearances and Themes, Theme Manager, Install new theme
[05:54] <raul12>  where is kcontrol ???
[05:54] <LjL> raul12: type "kcontrol" in a console.
[05:54] <Hawkwind> raul12: alt-f2 and then type kcontrol
[05:54] <intelikey> in /usr/bin
[05:55] <intelikey> one never knows what that question might mean....
[05:55] <raul12>  any way i can bring kcontrol to my enu list ???
[05:55] <raul12>  menu
[05:55] <LjL> raul12: yes
[05:55] <raul12>  plz tell
[05:55] <raul12>  steps
[05:55] <intelikey> kmenuedit
[05:55] <LjL> raul12: right click on panel, Add applet to panel, Settings
[05:56] <collin> thanks everyone for your help
[05:56] <intelikey> LjL menu ?
[05:56] <raul12> k
[05:56] <LjL> intelikey: ?
[05:57] <arepie> hello.. who knows how to configure ATI fglrx driver for me to support direct randering?
[05:57] <intelikey> LjL hehhe it looks like your answer was sufficient but he asked about "<raul12>  any way i can bring kcontrol to my menu list ???"    :)
[05:57] <trappist> !ati
[05:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:57] <trappist> the bot knows
[05:57] <LjL> intelikey: sure. but the "Settings" applet is specifically made to access kcontrol easily
[05:57] <arepie> i guess i read it, and follow the instruction.. it gave me no direct randering
[05:58] <intelikey> LjL like i said.  he took your answer and ran with it.   no blood no foul.   :)
[05:59] <DaSkreech> hi nikkiana
[05:59] <nikkiana> hi DaSkreech :)
[06:00] <raul12>  thank U guys 4 the help :D
[06:00] <DaSkreech> intelikey: in Windows Vista they have a button to bring up Alt+tab
[06:00] <intelikey> :)
[06:01] <collin> before i make a mistake, what i want to do is have the computer boot up to the ubuntu login window and choose the session from there instead of booting up with the kubuntu login window
[06:01] <intelikey> DaSkreech that must be for those kbd'less boxen
[06:02] <narasimhan> collin: i dont understand..
[06:02] <intelikey> collin yes "<LjL> collin: you mean the display manager? "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"    is correct
[06:02] <m3xican> !java
[06:02] <ubotu> To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[06:02] <narasimhan> collin: u will get the kdm login manager next time u restart
[06:02] <narasimhan> collin: sorry gdm
[06:03] <m3xican> !classpath
[06:03] <ubotu> classpath: clean room standard Java libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:0.19-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 382 kB, installed size 704 kB
[06:03] <collin> ok, and why does it say that postfix failed during boot up?
[06:03] <DaSkreech> twm doesn't ship with X anymore?
[06:03] <DaSkreech>  that's kinda dangerous
[06:04] <DaSkreech> How are you nikkiana?
[06:04] <intelikey> collin cause you haven't configured it.    sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix     if you want to set up postfix
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Got your server sorted?
[06:04] <DaSkreech> hi aseigo
[06:04] <nikkiana> DaSkreech: not too shabby, got a job and such... working from home
[06:04] <aseigo> hey
[06:04] <narasimhan> intelikey: :) fast and resourceful
[06:04] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Scwheet :)
[06:05] <intelikey> resourceful == full of warmed over source....  yep that's me.
[06:05] <collin> intelikey: what is postfix for?
[06:05] <raul12>  how to install .tar.gz theme file ????
[06:06] <v3ctor> postfix = MTA(mail transfer agent)
[06:06] <DaSkreech> raul12: They will normally have aREADME file
[06:06] <intelikey> collin email transport.    run     man postfix    for more info
[06:06] <collin> intelikey: thanks a lot for your help
[06:06] <intelikey> collin np.
[06:07] <DaSkreech> raul12: Look in the tar.gz to see if they have a README or an INSTALL file
[06:08] <arepie> is there other driver for ATI other than fglrx?
[06:08] <narasimhan> raul12: u can also try out some themes available via adept..
[06:08] <intelikey> arepie vesa ?
[06:09] <arepie> !vesa
[06:09] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[06:09] <arepie> !x
[06:09] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:09] <intelikey> !ati
[06:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:09] <arepie> fglrx doesn
[06:09] <arepie> fglrx doesn't seems to be fine with my graphic card
[06:10] <uwo> what is the equivalent of *.* in linux terminal (i.e. cp *.* /home....)
[06:10] <trappist> uwo: *.* means pretty much the same thing here as it does in windows
[06:10] <intelikey> uwo *
[06:11] <Tm_T> uwo: *.* works, but as you can see, it takes only files that does have dot.
[06:11] <trappist> any filename with a . in it, is what it expands to
[06:11] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Hope you can motivate yourself :)
[06:11] <intelikey> uwo in DOS *.*  is the same as  * in linux
[06:11] <uwo> intelikey: tnx :)
[06:11] <fildo> * = wildcard ;p
[06:12] <torkiano> hello all
[06:12] <intelikey> for later referance     DOS *.* != linux *.*
[06:12] <fildo> hi torkiano
[06:12] <trappist> intelikey: *.* doesn't require a . in the filename in DOS?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> trappist: I'm not sure you can make a file without a .dot in the name in dos :)
[06:13] <intelikey> in linux    *.*  ecery inode name contianing a dot "."    most inodes in linux dont
[06:14] <DaSkreech> though I guess you wouldn't get folders
[06:14] <intelikey> s/ecery/every
[06:14] <lotusleaf> how may I find out what hald is doing exactly? Every few seconds my HDD light flashes and in KSysGuard hald is doing something which coincides with the HDD light flashing, even when no programs are running and the system is idle.
[06:15] <intelikey> DaSkreech sure you can.  but in DOS file    "blah"   matches  both  *   and  *.*   but in linux   blah only mathces *   not *.*
[06:15] <DaSkreech> Whats the single char metachar in dos?
[06:15] <intelikey> ?
[06:16] <intelikey> same as linux
[06:16] <DaSkreech> ?
[06:16] <intelikey> yep
[06:16] <DaSkreech> OK
[06:16] <excitatory> when ripping cds on linux, how do you all handle the pregaps since cdparanoia doesn't support pregap detection?
[06:16] <intelikey> but in DOS  ? wont match .
[06:16] <intelikey> in linux it will
[06:17] <DaSkreech> lotusleaf: Good question
[06:18] <collin> i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm and it changed the login window back to gnome, but the boot up splash screen is still kubuntu. how can I change that?
[06:18] <v3ctor> lotusleaf: lshal --monitor
[06:18] <v3ctor> maybe?
[06:18] <intelikey> man usplash
[06:18] <intelikey> !usplash
[06:18] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto
[06:18] <intelikey> collin ^
[06:19] <collin> thanks
[06:19] <lotusleaf> v3ctor: as root?
[06:19] <lotusleaf> v3ctor: via sudo, whatever :)
[06:19] <v3ctor> lotusleaf: i am running as norm user
[06:20] <lotusleaf> v3ctor: thx I'm trying it and waiting to see if anything shows ;)
[06:20] <v3ctor> i am on laptop and i keep getting battery updates
[06:20] <shido> does anybody know how can i switch between dekstops in KDE? using the keyboard
[06:21] <v3ctor> shido: alt and the direction arrows ?
[06:21] <shido> no v3ctor...i thought so...but it doesnt work
[06:21] <alain_> anyone has running edgy and has a floppy drive?
[06:22] <v3ctor> shido: check the keyboard shortcuts in kcontrol
[06:22] <lotusleaf> alain_: yes and yes
[06:22] <lotusleaf> alain_: also see #ubuntu+1
[06:22] <shido> thanks v3ctor
[06:23] <lotusleaf>  Okay, so it won't hurt anything by disabling hald from starting @ boot, right? I don't plug in devices that often so I really don't need hald running all the time I gather
[06:23] <alain_> lotusleaf does it work for you to click on storage media, then floppy?
[06:24] <lotusleaf> alain_: if it's Edgy related, please re-ask me in #ubuntu+1 :) thanks
[06:24] <alain_> grml...
[06:24] <raul12>  well is their any way to change .tar.bz2 into kubuntu theme file ????
[06:25] <alain_> lotusleaf the problem does not exist on ubuntu...
[06:25] <lotusleaf> alain_: I said please join #ubuntu+1 that is the edgy channel, not #ubuntu =)
[06:26] <lotusleaf> alain_: and plenty of people in #ubuntu+1 discuss kde related issues
[06:26] <intelikey> why does kde reset X when starting ?    it blanks the screen 4 times (if i'm not mistaken) reloading x each time....
[06:26] <intelikey> none of the other desktops do that
[06:27] <raul12>  plz help
[06:27] <criferlo> tons que
[06:28] <criferlo> bienvenidos
[06:28] <intelikey> !help
[06:28] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:28] <host-one> bannatemi
[06:28] <criferlo> what??
[06:28] <host-one> io m'ammazzo
[06:28] <criferlo> welcome
[06:28] <DaSkreech> shido: Ctrl+F<n>
[06:29] <shido> DaSkreech, thanks... now i fixed it in the KControl options
[06:29] <raul12>  well is their any way to change .tar.bz2 into kubuntu theme file ????
[06:29] <azzco> I think that I heard someone talking about integrating kopete and kontact in here before... is it possible?
[06:30] <intelikey> !theme
[06:30] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:31] <intelikey> !theem
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about theem - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:31] <McNutella> how do I make it use the default ubuntu artwork instead of kubuntu  please?
[06:31] <intelikey> !changethemes
[06:31] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[06:32] <McNutella> !artwork
[06:32] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:33] <azzco> so is there anyway to integrate the contact list in kopete with the one in contact?
[06:36] <ralph> Azzco you still there
[06:36] <azzco> yeah
[06:36] <ralph> it is me chico ;)
[06:36] <azzco> oh :)
[06:37] <ralph> so no response yet
[06:37] <azzco> Shold have seen it some time before :) nope not yet =/
[06:37] <abattoir> azzco: sure, its possible
[06:37] <azzco> not manually I hope abattoir
[06:38] <intelikey> Need to get 0B of archives.
[06:38] <intelikey> After unpacking 441MB disk space will be freed.
[06:38] <intelikey> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[06:38] <azzco> Oh silly of me >_< I just noticed the "Export Contacts"
[06:38] <intelikey> hehhe removing python-2.4
[06:38] <abattoir> azzco: hmm, ok, i was just typing it out ;)
[06:39] <azzco> THX anyways :)
[06:39] <abattoir> np :)
[06:39] <criferlo> helllooooooooooo
[06:39] <ralph> Export from Kopete or Kontact?
[06:39] <intelikey> so a lot of kde is writen in python....
[06:44] <beligum> Hi all, I did a dist-upgrade and konqueror is gone !
[06:44] <beligum> anyone having the same probs?
[06:45] <abattoir> beligum: in the Menu? or is the package removed?
[06:45] <beligum> the package got removed
[06:45] <abattoir> ok, then install it manually...
[06:46] <beligum> it depends on kdelibs4c2a and that fails to install
[06:46] <intelikey> kde-core depends on konqueror
[06:46] <abattoir> you are dist-upgrading within dapper or are you upgrading to edgy?
[06:46] <beligum> dapper
[06:46] <intelikey> unless that has changed in edgy   #ubuntu+1
[06:46] <beligum> and that depends on libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.1), but that's not in the repo
[06:47] <abattoir> beligum: do you have dapper updates/backports enabled?
[06:47] <intelikey> !repos
[06:47] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:47] <beligum> yes
[06:47] <beligum> I mean, abattoir: yes
[06:48] <abattoir> beligum: try 'sudo apt-get update', 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[06:48] <abattoir> and then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, again
[06:48] <beligum> already did that
[06:48] <beligum> nothing
[06:48] <beligum> 91 packages are kept back
[06:49] <abattoir> hmm, ok, install them manually
[06:49] <abattoir> copy the list of packages, and paste them after sudo apt-get install
[06:50] <beligum> already did that, fails on kdelibs4c2a:
[06:51] <abattoir> beligum: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?
[06:51] <abattoir> beligum: could you pastebin that error message if it is long?
[06:51] <abattoir> !info kdelibs4c2a
[06:51] <ubotu> kdelibs4c2a: core libraries for all KDE applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu18.1 (dapper), package size 8138 kB, installed size 24336 kB
[06:51] <beligum> abattoir: can't install kubuntu-desktop, it depends on kdelibs4c2a
[06:52] <abattoir> beligum: and have you upgraded/are trying to update to a later version of KDE
[06:52] <beligum> no, not that I know of
[06:52] <abattoir> beligum: hmm, ok, either you didnt have kubuntu-desktop installed, or it was removed somehow
[06:52] <abattoir> beligum: so you are still using 3.5.2 ?
[06:53] <beligum> hmm, 3.5.3
[06:54] <beligum> sec, I'll post my sources.list
[06:54] <inteliwasp> is it posible to have the disk check be postponed if the computer is running on battries?
[06:55] <raul12>  well i am not finding my kdmrc file which need to configure my theme plz help
[06:55] <Hawkwind> locate kdmrc  in  a terminal  Type that
[06:56] <Ash-Fox> How does one broadcast global messages, like the way shutdown does?
[06:56] <TheGateKeeper> inteliwasp: I think if you put an empty file called .fastboot (or something like that can't quite remember) it will skip the hdd check, if that is what you are talking about
[06:57] <TheGateKeeper> in the /
[06:57] <beligum> Here it is: http://beligum.org/pub/sources.list
[06:57] <beligum> hmm, http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest is probably the tricky one
[06:58] <trappist> beligum: so, your nick is not a typo :)
[06:58] <beligum> no, it's not :)
[06:58] <inteliwasp> i don't mind running it, just not when i need the computer fast...
[06:58] <abattoir> beligum: you dont seem to have dapper-updates.... unless i missed it
[06:59] <beligum> abattoir: can you post the line I'm missing?
[06:59] <abattoir> beligum: deb http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[07:00] <beligum> thx
[07:00] <abattoir> beligum: np, tell me if it works.. (should work ;) )
[07:01] <beligum> abattoir: you rule !
[07:01] <beligum> :)
[07:01] <abattoir> beligum: you have kde-latest, and i asked you if you upgraded your KDE version :P
[07:01] <raul12>  i am always finding .tar.b2z themes which i am u able to install plz can u tell me where can i find kubuntu theme
[07:01] <abattoir> *upgraded KDE to a later version ;)
[07:01] <beligum> yeah, I'm sorry, forgot I included that one in the beginning
[07:02] <raul12>  me upgrade KDE ???
[07:02] <abattoir> raul12: why arent you able to install them? what sort of themes?
[07:02] <abattoir> raul12: no, that was not for you
[07:02] <raul12>  KDE themes
[07:02] <GeorgeM36Gr> Hello all
[07:02] <abattoir> raul12: different parts of KDE can be themed, so which part?
[07:02] <beligum> pffiew, thank god the solution was so easy, I thought I had to flash back 5 years and manually install packages again
[07:02] <raul12> Put the theme folder in ~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes
[07:02] <raul12> Edit your ~/.kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
[07:02] <raul12> Change or add the line Theme=~/.kde/share/apps/kdm/themes/"THEMENAME"
[07:02] <raul12> Restart KDE
[07:02] <abattoir> raul12: give me the link to the theme you are trying to install
[07:02] <raul12> ok
[07:03] <raul12> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28724
[07:03] <abattoir> raul12: ok, you are trying to install a kdm theme
[07:03] <raul12> k
[07:03] <abattoir> raul12: i suggest installing the kdm theme manager
[07:03] <raul12>  but kdm manager wont support .tar.bz2
[07:04] <raul12>  and it wont install
[07:04] <abattoir> raul12: you can either follow those instructions... or install kdmtheme
[07:04] <abattoir> raul12: really?
[07:04] <raul12>  try it
[07:04] <raul12>  i did and it wont install
[07:04] <abattoir> you have kdmtheme installed?
[07:04] <abattoir> !info kdmtheme
[07:04] <ubotu> kdmtheme: Theme switcher for Kdm. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-1 (dapper), package size 70 kB, installed size 212 kB
[07:05] <abattoir> or did you compile it?
[07:05] <raul12>  well i am using kcontrol
[07:05] <raul12>  to install theme
[07:06] <abattoir> raul12: yes, kde has no KDM theming system by default, install that package, it'll make managing KDM themes easier :)
[07:06] <raul12> ok
[07:06] <Dr_willis> yea
[07:06] <Dr_willis> theme overload
[07:06] <raul12> iam on it
[07:11] <Dr_willis> i think the term 'theme' is way way over used tehse days
[07:11] <alain_> anyone has an MSI KT6 Delta mainboard and is running edgy?
[07:11] <Dr_willis> i rember a program that had 'themes' 'schemes' and 'layouts' :) 3 differnt themable aspects of the program.
[07:12] <alain_> or at least an ac97 audio chipset
[07:13] <Dr_willis> isent ac97 a rather generic term? like "sound blaster compatiable' used to be?
[07:13] <wildchild> is there any text editor in conzole for kubunto?
[07:14] <Tm_T> wildchild: nano, vim, joe, emacs... tons of it
[07:15] <rittap> hello all!
[07:16] <TheGateKeeper> wildchild: yep quite a few, nano is the one I use
[07:16] <wildchild> nano is simple to use, i like it this way :)
[07:17] <TheGateKeeper> vim also
[07:18] <raul12>  i cant install .tar.bz2 theme through kcontrol and kdmtheme
[07:18] <raul12>  help
[07:18] <rittap> raul12: tell us what went wrong, so we can help you better
[07:19] <raul12>  well then i located the file by *.* then open it , now it wont give me any preview
[07:20] <raul12>  so i think it wont install
[07:20] <rittap> so u tried to unpack the tarball
[07:20] <raul12>  and nothing happned when i applaied the theme
[07:20] <raul12>  yup
[07:20] <rittap> raul12: and there isn't any makefile?
[07:21] <raul12>  and i did it with unzipping tar
[07:21] <raul12>  nope
[07:21] <rittap> hmm, maybe the download is corrupt
[07:21] <rittap> try downloading it again and check it on the hash (if possible)
[07:21] <raul12>  well i am givin u the link plz check
[07:21] <rittap> ok
[07:22] <arepie> hello, how to change the first page, i mean the login page from console to the original back?
[07:22] <raul12> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26718
[07:22] <rittap> raul12: hold please
[07:22] <raul12>  also read install how to
[07:22] <raul12>  i cant find the file mentioned their
[07:23] <hans_> Moin, moin!
[07:23] <raul12>  well any luck guys ??
[07:23] <rittap> raul12: try this
[07:23] <raul12>  tell
[07:24] <arepie> i have accidentaly change the login KDE desktop to console, how to change it back to the original form?
[07:24] <rittap> put the file in an empty folder, then become root (or use sudo) and type the following
[07:24] <rittap> raul12: ./configure <enter>
[07:24] <raul12>  ok
[07:24] <raul12>  is the file or the tar ball
[07:24] <rittap> when done: make <enter>
[07:24] <arepie> !login
[07:24] <ubotu> login: system login tools. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.13-7ubuntu3.2 (dapper), package size 235 kB, installed size 2036 kB
[07:24] <claudio_> claudio@claudio:~$ sudo ifconfig sit0 up /
[07:24] <claudio_> Password:
[07:24] <claudio_> SIOCSIFNETMASK: Impossibile assegnare l'indirizzo richiesto
[07:24] <claudio_> Host sconosciuto
[07:24] <rittap> no in the unpacked tarball
[07:24] <claudio_> why?
[07:25] <raul12>  ok
[07:26] <raul12>  thx
[07:26] <raul12>  i am on it
[07:27] <rittap> raul12: ping me again if you need more help on this subject !
[07:28] <raul12>  ./configure is not found
[07:28] <rittap> hmm
[07:28] <rittap> weird
[07:28] <raul12>  i cd into the un zipp folder
[07:28] <raul12>  then run ./configure
[07:28] <rittap> and there's config file
[07:29] <raul12>  where
[07:29] <i32madev> someone speak spanish?? or it's necessary to speak in english?
[07:29] <rittap> sorry typo
[07:29] <rittap> !es
[07:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:29] <i32madev> thanks a lot
[07:29] <rittap> there's no config file huh
[07:29] <rittap> okay
[07:29] <MukiEX> i32madev : I do, a bit
[07:29] <rittap> hang on
[07:29] <MukiEX> ooh, that's convinient.
[07:29] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/Background.png
[07:30] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/Background_transparent.png
[07:30] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/GdmGreeterTheme.desktop
[07:30] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/login-scan-fusion.xml
[07:30] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/preview.png
[07:30] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/README
[07:30] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/session.png
[07:30] <raul12> file:///home/rampage/Desktop/login-scan-fusion-0-3-1/login-scan-fusion/system.png
[07:30] <rittap> raul12: hold
[07:30] <rittap> we have a pastbin for that
[07:30] <raul12>   sry i misclicked onpaste
[07:30] <B-Minus> i installed samba, i have smbclient etc but i dont have smbfs ???
[07:31] <rittap> raul12: you tried to follow the install instructions on the website?
[07:31] <raul12> nope
[07:31] <raul12> what u told
[07:32] <rittap> yeah ok
[07:32] <rittap> but have you also tried that one
[07:32] <rittap> because if that doesn't work...
[07:32] <raul12> well i did
[07:32] <raul12> it doesnt work
[07:32] <rittap> but?
[07:32] <rittap> why is that?
[07:33] <raul12> no files found
[07:33] <rittap> okay
[07:33] <rittap> let me try to install
[07:33] <raul12> no ./configure in the theme !!
[07:33] <omar__> Guys, I am gonna install Windows in my PC, and I have xubuntu, how can I do it without touching my xubuntu
[07:34] <raul12> creat a seperate partitation
[07:34] <raul12> ans install win teir
[07:34] <raul12> their
[07:34] <omar__> raul12 how can i do that
[07:35] <raul12> well u can do that by gettin Gparted
[07:35] <raul12> a partitation software
[07:35] <raul12> patition
[07:35] <raul12> partition
[07:36] <omar__> raul12 let me check, thanks, how much disk do you think I will need for a XP
[07:36] <rittap> raul12: have u installed kdm
[07:36] <rittap> !kdm > rittap
[07:36] <rittap> !kdm
[07:36] <ubotu> kdm: X display manager for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.2-0ubuntu27 (dapper), package size 600 kB, installed size 1468 kB
[07:36] <raul12> well 2 gb is more than enough
[07:36] <raul12> kdm
[07:36] <Manyfold> is there an xgl how to for kubuntu?
[07:36] <raul12> ??
[07:36] <rittap> yeah
[07:37] <omar__> raul12 i can't find Gparted, do you know another one
[07:37] <rittap> !kdm > raul12
[07:37] <raul12> dunno
[07:37] <raul12> @ omar go to
[07:37] <raul12> http://distrowatch.com/
[07:38] <rittap> raul12: check if you do
[07:38] <raul12> u can fing gpated in here in .iso
[07:38] <rittap> its necessary
[07:38] <raul12> ok
[07:38] <raul12> i am on it
[07:38] <arepie> i have accidentaly change the login KDE desktop to console, how to change it back to the original form?
[07:40] <intelikey> hmmm kde is running but not installed... interesting...
[07:40] <intelikey> arepie startx
[07:41] <intelikey> arepie errr if you can't figure that out, sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[07:41] <intelikey> should fix you....
[07:43] <rittap> raul12: and?
[07:44] <steff_> Hi. Anyone having any experience with the ati-linux drivers? Running kubuntu edgy on my HP nc8000 laptop.  radeon mobility 9600. i get bad parformens from the ati driver compared to the driver that comes with the installation of ubuntu.?!
[07:45] <MukiEX> Run fglrxinfo
[07:45] <MukiEX> And go to #ati, we can discuss it there
[07:46] <steff_> okay thx
[07:47] <raul12>  well kdm is installed
[07:47] <raul12>  now i am upgrading it
[07:47] <rittap> ok
[07:47] <rittap> check the apart msg
[07:47] <raul12>  k
[07:48] <raul12>  is their any way to compile it ??
[07:49] <rittap> raul12: kdm? or the theme?
[07:49] <raul12>  theme
[07:49] <Dr_willis> !info build-essential
[07:49] <rittap> raul12: I don't think so, but i'm not an expert
[07:49] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[07:49] <raul12>  well i have that package
[07:50] <raul12>  build essential
[07:50] <Search4Lancer> how do I damn "Slow Keys" to fire and brimstone so it will leave me alone?
[07:50] <raul12>  and want to compile theme
[07:50] <Dr_willis> Slow Keys?
[07:50] <raul12>  but it wont
[07:50] <rittap> raul12: I gotta go. I hope u will find the solution
[07:50] <raul12>  ok thx any way
[07:50] <Dr_willis> raul12,  you will need some of the different -dev packages as well
[07:50] <rittap> raul12: ur welcome
[07:50] <rittap> bye all
[07:51] <raul12>  can specify the packages that i may need ?
[07:51] <raul12>  @Dr
[07:51] <Dr_willis> Nope.
[07:51] <Dr_willis> I tend to just 'apt-cache search kde | grep dev' and install them all. :)
[07:51] <raul12>  why ??
[07:51] <Dr_willis> HOW can i tell what ones a theme may or may not need. :P
[07:52] <LjL> Dr_willis: usually i install kdelibs4-dev
[07:52] <Dr_willis> ./configure and look for any errors. :)
[07:52] <LjL> unless the program needs something very special, that's usually good enough
[07:52] <raul12>  but when opening theme file
[07:52] <Dr_willis> LjL,  yea.. i tend to use the shotgun method. :)
[07:52] <khirr> guys, is there Macromedia Flash for kubuntu?
[07:52] <raul12>  i wont find any ./configure file
[07:52] <Dr_willis> khirr,  the latest flash is  comming out soon for linux i hear.
[07:52] <raul12>  yup their is macro
[07:52] <Dr_willis> work time fo rme.. bbl
[07:53] <khirr> but, if i wanna use macromedia flash..what should i do?
[07:53] <LjL> !flash
[07:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:53] <raul12>  well u can use convectional adept
[07:53] <raul12>  and install it from their
[07:53] <khirr> !flash
[07:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:53] <raul12>  yup
[07:53] <mots> could it be, that my kde-internet-libs are kinda broken?
[07:53] <Hawkwind> khirr: However, a lot of sites require flash 8 or newer, and Linux only has flash 7 and we won't get a new version until version 9 is released after the first of the year for Linux
[07:54] <raul12>  or go to the site download the tar ball
[07:54] <raul12>  and compile it ur self
[07:54] <khirr> uhmm
[07:54] <khirr> i work with macromedia flash :(
[07:54] <raul12> hmmm
[07:54] <mots> internet with konqueror/internetfunctions of amaroK don't work
[07:54] <LjL> or contribute to some free flash clone project :P
[07:54] <mots> altough gtk-progs work perfectly well
[07:55] <Hawkwind> raul12: You can't compile flash higher than version 7 for Linux
[07:55] <Hawkwind> If you could, there would be a flash 8 or 9 for Linux
[07:55] <khirr> (:(
[07:55] <intelikey> khirr change jobs   :)
[07:55] <raul12>  but flash 7 is all we have
[07:55] <raul12>  4 now
[07:55] <khirr> (_(
[07:55] <khirr> i dont wanna back to windows :(
[07:55] <LjL> well, doesn't Flash work in Wine anyway?
[07:55] <Hawkwind> raul12: I stated that
[07:55] <raul12>  well flash 9 will be out soon 4 linux
[07:55] <intelikey> we don't want you too but we don't want you to use flash either
[07:56] <raul12>  lol ^_^
[07:56] <Hawkwind> You can however run your app in wine that uses the newer flash if you are really that desperate
[07:56] <khirr> i cant do run flash under wine
[07:56] <khirr> i cant run anyprogram under wine
[07:56] <khirr> i dont know how it worl
[07:56] <raul12>  why ??
[07:56] <khirr> work
[07:56] <Hawkwind> raul12: Not soon.  Probably not until around May or June of 2007
[07:56] <LjL> then your wine install has something wrong with it i guess :o)
[07:56] <raul12>  well i stall it
[07:56] <khirr> !wine
[07:56] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:56] <raul12>  install it
[07:56] <LjL> khirr: well, for programs that work out of the box, you just type "wine setup.exe"
[07:56] <raul12>  better go to wine home site
[07:56] <LjL> a few programs need some tweaking, granted
[07:57] <raul12>  their is lot better documentation
[07:57] <khirr> to can install one program?
[07:57] <raul12>  ^_^
[07:57] <excitatory> you can track the flash 9 linux dev here: http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[07:57] <mini_gamer1896> khirr, also, Wine's homepage is http://www.winehq.com
[07:57] <raul12>  yup
[07:57] <mini_gamer1896> goto ApplicationDB
[07:57] <khirr> ?
[07:58] <mots> no help?
[07:58] <mots> >:O
[07:58] <LjL> khirr: winehq.com's application db contains a list of windows software with comments on whether it works on not, and hopefully how to make it work
[07:58] <mini_gamer1896> and do a search for the flash program under the title, there might be some tricks that are posted there
[07:58] <khirr> i'll check now
[07:58] <mini_gamer1896> *title name
[07:59] <khirr> the hardest problem is, all in english only (:(
[07:59] <mini_gamer1896> you could use the google translator
[07:59] <mini_gamer1896> for the page(s)
[07:59] <LjL> you even perhaps *not* :P
[07:59] <intelikey> yeah those bleedin' anglish...
[07:59] <raul12>  yup that good choice
[08:00] <raul12>  and if u use oprea then u can download google translator wigets
[08:00] <LjL> well Konqueror comes with a translation plugin as well
[08:00] <LjL> uses babelfish though IIRC
[08:00] <khirr> the progam that i wanna run must be installed on my PC, or i can install one software since wine?
[08:01] <LjL> khirr: eh?
[08:01] <intelikey> khirr yes
[08:01] <claudio_> root@claudio:/home/claudio# ifconfig sit0 /
[08:01] <claudio_> SIOCSIFNETMASK: Impossibile assegnare l'indirizzo richiesto
[08:01] <claudio_> Host sconosciuto
[08:01] <claudio_> ifconfig: `--help' gives usage information.
[08:01] <claudio_> why?
[08:01] <khirr> can i install?
[08:01] <LjL> !pastebin
[08:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:01] <mini_gamer1896> khirr, if you have wine installed, than it creates a virtual windows system under your home directory
[08:01] <intelikey> khirr some things   yes
[08:01] <LjL> khirr: you can install programs from wine, *assuming* they can work on wine
[08:01] <mini_gamer1896> it installs to there
[08:02] <khirr> wine is as emulator
[08:02] <khirr> ?
[08:02] <mini_gamer1896> and ditto to LjL
[08:02] <mini_gamer1896> yes
[08:02] <LjL> khirr: yes and no
[08:02] <mini_gamer1896> & no?
[08:02] <khirr> is as have win on my linux?
[08:02] <LjL> khirr: it's a compatibility layer, strictly speaking
[08:02] <intelikey> no.   wine is wine is not an emulator
[08:02] <mini_gamer1896> ah, k
[08:02] <LjL> mini_gamer1896: well, the name "wine" means Wine Is Not an Emulator...
[08:02] <mini_gamer1896> duh, true
[08:02] <khirr> :S
[08:02] <khirr> hahahhaha
[08:02] <khirr> so funny
[08:02] <intelikey> wine is an application layer
[08:03] <LjL> khirr: it's called a recursive acronym. common in the unix world...
[08:03] <raul12>  yup thats right
[08:03] <khirr> acronym?
[08:03] <mots> well
[08:03] <LjL> khirr: abbreviation
[08:03] <claudio_> LjL: have you an idea?
[08:03] <raul12>  i am afk 4 few mins
[08:03] <khirr> uhmmm
[08:03] <intelikey> acro-name
[08:03] <mots> as in GNU=GNU is Not Unix
[08:04] <LjL> khirr: like AFK is an acronym meaning Away From Keyboard
[08:04] <khirr> :O
[08:04] <marcus_> !restrictedformats
[08:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:04] <khirr> i dindt know that
[08:04] <LjL> claudio_: only wired connection here, sorry
[08:04] <khirr> wow, knowing more
[08:04] <khirr> so interesnting
[08:04] <intelikey> LjL pebcak  ?     lol
[08:04] <LjL> khirr: IMHO = in my humble opinion, AFAIK = as far as i know, BBL = be back later, BRB = be right back... and lots more on IRC :)
[08:05] <LjL> intelikey: eh? :o)
[08:05] <inam> !virus
[08:05] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[08:05] <khirr> brb i knowed, but bbl? imho :S
[08:05] <intelikey> some use *kac  same meaning.
[08:05] <intelikey> problem exists between chair and keyboard
[08:06] <octan> lol
[08:06] <LjL> intelikey: uuuh... problem existing between chair and keyboard...?
[08:06] <khirr> i wanna download wine
[08:06] <intelikey> yep
[08:06] <LjL> wow, got it right
[08:06] <khirr> where can i do it?
[08:06] <LjL> khirr: "sudo apt-get install wine"
[08:06] <LjL> khirr: type that in a shell
[08:07] <khirr> lets se
[08:07] <intelikey> LjL pebcak is a common issue in *buntu.   :)
[08:07] <intelikey> there is no patch as of yet.
[08:07] <LjL> intelikey: well, perhaps my brain simply filters awkcronyms it doesn't know :)
[08:07] <khirr> i'm logged as root, but i cant
[08:08] <LjL> ah, so it's a bug :P
[08:08] <LjL> khirr: what does it say
[08:08] <khirr> the packed isnt disponible
[08:08] <LjL> khirr: you mean "the package is not available"... what's your language by the way?
[08:08] <intelikey> khirr apt-get install wine   ?
[08:08] <intelikey> oh
[08:08] <LjL> khirr: you need to enable universe
[08:09] <khirr> is spanish :S
[08:09] <intelikey> !info wine
[08:09] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[08:09] <khirr> universe?
[08:09] <intelikey> it's in universe
[08:09] <intelikey> !repos
[08:09] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:09] <khirr> ?
[08:09] <LjL> khirr: universe is a repository that isn't enabled by default
[08:09] <khirr> i'll check it now
[08:09] <claudio_> !repository
[08:09] <intelikey> khirr https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:09] <claudio_> what is repository?
[08:10] <claudio_> is a server?
[08:10] <LjL> khirr: a dirty way to enable it is typing     sudo sed "s/main/main restricted universe multiverse" /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <LjL> khirr: a dirty way to enable it is typing     sudo sed "s/main/main restricted universe multiverse/" /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <LjL> claudio_: no, a repository is a place containing packages for ubuntu
[08:10] <intelikey> i wonder if removing python-minimal will have any adverse affect on my system....
[08:10] <LjL> !packages
[08:10] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, apt-cache, the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 18000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[08:10] <intelikey> claudio_ is a section on a server
[08:10] <LjL> claudio_: there is a "main" repository, which is enabled by default, and there are the "universe" and "multiverse" repositories, which are not enabled by default
[08:10] <claudio_> section of wath?
[08:11] <intelikey> LjL s/main.*/
[08:11] <claudio_> what
[08:11] <LjL> claudio_: programs. it contains programs to install
[08:11] <LjL> intelikey: works without the .* :)
[08:11] <intelikey> else you will get some repetes
[08:11] <claudio_> I don't understand
[08:11] <LjL> intelikey: hm yeah, guess you're right
[08:11] <khirr> i pasted that u said
[08:11] <khirr> ;)
[08:11] <claudio_> Is a program, a place,a section?
[08:11] <LjL> claudio_: software. programs for ubuntu.
[08:12] <claudio_> like urpmi for mdk or emerge for gentoo?
[08:12] <Hawkwind> claudio_: apt-get ?
[08:12] <LjL> claudio_: un repository contiene "pacchetti", che sono programmi per ubuntu. se hai un dato repository abilitato, basta scrivere "sudo apt-get install qualcosa" per installare il pacchetto "qualcosa". ci sono circa 18000 pacchetti in totale
[08:12] <intelikey> echo "blah main universe" | sed 's/main/main universe/g'    and see what it does
[08:12] <claudio_> LjL sei italiano?
[08:12] <Hawkwind> Ummm, that should be in English since this is an English channel
[08:12] <intelikey> LjL ^
[08:12] <LjL> yep, but here we should speak english
[08:12] <Hawkwind> !it
[08:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:13] <claudio_> si ok, ma non ho capito cos'e' il repository
[08:13] <claudio_> ho capito che contiene programmi
[08:13] <LjL> english please, or private message me
[08:14] <claudio_> 505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[08:14] <intelikey> ljl correct syntax. echo "blah main universe" | sed 's/main.*/main universe/g'
[08:14] <LjL> claudio_: right. join #ubuntu-it
[08:14] <intelikey> LjL i knew that.  but made the same blunder eariler.   someone pointed it out for me... :)
[08:16] <LjL> intelikey, actually i think that someone was me, and you were writing "s/main*/......../"
[08:17] <intelikey> sed 's/main .*/main restricted universe multiverse/g' /etc/apt/sources.list ./sources.list
[08:17] <JohnFlux> If when decoding a character is invalid, what does the font renderer display it as?  a question mark?
[08:17] <intelikey> LjL :)
[08:17] <intelikey> welcome to my world  :)
[08:18] <LjL> JohnFlux: depends... most characters that my fonts don't have get displayed as an empty box, i think
[08:18] <soulrider> hi everyone
[08:18] <intelikey> JohnFlux should be either a question mark or a blank space or a dot  depending on the decoder and the renderer
[08:18] <soulrider> any java programmers here ? i wanna know if there is a way to interact with the console froma  java application
[08:19] <LjL> intelikey: ;-) basically we should really use some form of "s/deb(.*)main.*/deb\1main restricted universe multiverse/g" if we wanted to do things right... but i haven't tested this sort of thing yet
[08:19] <intelikey> yeah blank space may show as  []
[08:19] <JohnFlux> intelikey: in google mail i've got an email with lots of ?'s
[08:19] <DaSkreech> Ash-Fox: Wall i think
[08:20] <intelikey> LjL or grep -v'#'  the thing  :)
[08:20] <Ash-Fox> DaSkreech, thankyou :)
[08:20] <LjL> possibly
[08:20] <jhutchins_wk> JohnFlux: Most likely something asian with lots of unprintable characters.
[08:20] <intelikey> yeah font/language/rendering unknow
[08:20] <intelikey> JohnFlux ^
[08:21] <JohnFlux> intelikey: but there's no way of knowing if the email is literally full of ?'s
[08:21] <intelikey> pipe everything.
[08:21] <slow-motion> hallo
[08:22] <intelikey> JohnFlux yeah there should be.   maybe pipe it through  | tr -d '?'
[08:22] <intelikey> and compare
[08:24] <intelikey> JohnFlux actually that question would be better suited for #bash   or  #linux
[08:25] <khirr> omg
[08:25] <khirr> i forogot my examen :S
[08:25] <intelikey> meaning you would find more pertanant help there
[08:26] <B-Minus_> hmm
[08:26] <J-K> he is xgl also for kubuntu or they gonna release a version with xgl?
[08:26] <B-Minus_> can i see somehwere with konqueror how big my whole linux partition is ?
[08:26] <B-Minus_> and how much is left
[08:27] <GeorgeM36Gr> hello ppl
[08:27] <GeorgeM36Gr> does anyone have kubuntu 6.06.1 running on a core2duo with abitab9 pro_
[08:27] <GeorgeM36Gr> ?
[08:27] <inam> B-Minus_, do you want to run fdisk from the konsole ?
[08:27] <GeorgeM36Gr> i cant install the thing...
[08:27] <intelikey> B-Minus_ there is an app  but the cli app "df"   is on every gnu/linux system
[08:28] <intelikey> inam that doesn't look like his quarry
[08:28] <mots> could anyonetell me how i get the huuuge navigation icons in konqueror smaller?
[08:28] <GeorgeM36Gr> anyone_
[08:28] <GeorgeM36Gr> ?
[08:29] <intelikey> looks like he's searching for a gui'd df
[08:30] <intelikey> GeorgeM36Gr not i.
[08:30] <GeorgeM36Gr> intelikey thanks for the reply
[08:30] <intelikey> mots right click and configure   or  in kcontrol    (blanket answer)
[08:30] <B-Minus_> tnx
[08:31] <mini_gamer1896> !apt-get gnome
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-get gnome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <ultm8> hi dad
[08:31] <TheGateKeeper> !gnome-desktop
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <intelikey> GeorgeM36Gr heh no problem.  i'm still on dialup with a p1  so i can't help with that hardware question.
[08:32] <GeorgeM36Gr> intelikey dialup with p1? woaaaw
[08:32] <khirr> wine
[08:32] <DaSkreech> !xgl > Manyfold
[08:32] <khirr> need mozilla direct X
[08:32] <khirr> ;S
[08:32] <ultm8> ERIC LOOK HERE!!!! **************************************************
[08:32] <sfilleul> hi
[08:32] <mrezk> hi
[08:32] <GeorgeM36Gr> i was trying the 64bit ... but it failed... and someppl in here told me to try the 32bit version and it fails :(
[08:32] <intelikey> B-Minus_ there is a graphic (pie chart looking)  disk usage app.   i just don't remember the name of it.
[08:32] <khirr> help (:(
[08:32] <khirr> need direct X
[08:32] <khirr> for wine
[08:33] <GeorgeM36Gr> is ubuntu better than kubuntu?
[08:33] <khirr> ACTIVE X
[08:33] <mots> intelikey: where in kcontrol?
[08:33] <khirr> wine need ACTIVE X
[08:33] <intelikey> GeorgeM36Gr it's the same OS
[08:33] <khirr> but cant download
[08:33] <B-Minus_> intelikey:  thats ok, i have all the info i need with df
[08:34] <GeorgeM36Gr> intelikey i know it is but maybe it works with core2duo?
[08:34] <intelikey> only differance is the desktop environment that is installed by default
[08:34] <GeorgeM36Gr> uhhh ok
[08:34] <aseigo> GeorgeM36Gr: kubuntu is ubuntu with kde on it
[08:34] <aseigo> GeorgeM36Gr: so if you prefer kde's approach to things, like many people do, then it's a nice little improvement to an otherwise great os
[08:34] <aseigo> wow. massive lag.
[08:35] <GeorgeM36Gr> aseigo I prefer kde
[08:35] <intelikey> B-Minus_ yes and after you have learned the cli apps you find that the gui is little more than eye candy wrapped around the cli-app
[08:35] <B-Minus_> intelikey: great, Im reading a lot of sites now and they all tell me that
[08:35] <GeorgeM36Gr> aseigo but what I like is not important now as I can install the thing
[08:36] <aseigo> GeorgeM36Gr: the installation system is the same on both
[08:36] <intelikey> aseigo yeah i'm about to lag plumb out..   25S +
[08:36] <GeorgeM36Gr> aseigo cool it wont work then...there is no point downloading it
[08:36] <aseigo> GeorgeM36Gr: heh... sorry =)
[08:36] <soulrider> is anyone having problems with NTFS partitions?
[08:36] <khirr> need ACTIVEX (:(
[08:36] <soulrider> i go to mediaL/ in konqueror
[08:36] <soulrider> and i see my NTFS partitions
[08:37] <soulrider> but the icon is grey as if they wer eunmounted
[08:37] <soulrider> and i cant mount them or access them
[08:37] <soulrider> they used to work, but they dont now
[08:37] <soulrider> i can browse my NTFS drives through amarok or krusader, but not using konqueror
[08:37] <khirr> how can i access to my hda 5 since konsole?
[08:38] <claydoh> khirr: what work they have accomplished in wine re: activex is already built in
[08:38] <soulrider> khirr: type "cd media/hdb5/
[08:38] <soulrider> khirr: type "cd media/hda5/
[08:39] <khirr> uhmm
[08:39] <intelikey> soulrider nope.... hehe
[08:39] <khirr> how can i put DIR?
[08:39] <soulrider> dir
[08:39] <soulrider> or ls
[08:39] <intelikey> soulrider cd /media/blah maybe   but i doubt that cd media/ will get anyone anywhere
[08:39] <khirr> (:(
[08:40] <khirr> how can i run macromedia flash
[08:40] <khirr> i have that install in my hda5
[08:40] <soulrider> ah yes, i forgot the first slash, i allways forget that
[08:40] <khirr> is in ntfs unit
[08:41] <intelikey> khirr man intro        man man         man ls      man cd    man mount     man cp     man rm     man mv
[08:41] <intelikey> !cli
[08:41] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:41] <khirr> ?
[08:41] <khirr> i dont understand
[08:41] <intelikey> then install mc and use it..... :)
[08:41] <claydoh> well that really helps
[08:42] <B-Minus_> does anyone know if there are replacement-apps for linux for these windows apps : Citrix management console, Remote Desktop, Lotus Notes, Dameware
[08:42] <v3ctor> rdesktop
[08:42] <claydoh> you have to know the commands before you use man, man :)
[08:43] <khirr> i wanna run macromedia flash (:(
[08:43] <soulrider> wine ?
[08:43] <intelikey> claydoh man intro and man man  were to teach how to use the man command
[08:43] <claydoh> maybe, or possibly crossover office
[08:44] <Hawkwind> khirr: So run it.  Install flash on Kubuntu
[08:44] <khirr> gd
[08:44] <khirr> yes
[08:44] <claydoh> stuill doesn't help a newbie well
[08:44] <Hawkwind> !flash > khirr
[08:44] <khirr> how?
[08:44] <khirr> how install flash on kubuntu
[08:44] <Hawkwind> khirr: Read what the bot just sent you in pm
[08:44] <DaSkreech> intelikey: so you know tee?
[08:44] <claydoh> i think he wants flash  not flashplayer
[08:44] <khirr> there are 3 directions
[08:44] <khirr> :(
[08:45] <Hawkwind> khirr: You mean flash for viewing webpages ?
[08:45] <intelikey> DaSkreech yeah
[08:45] <khirr> i'm not really good in english
[08:45] <khirr> no
[08:45] <khirr> no no no
[08:45] <khirr> flash to can ru .fla files
[08:45] <khirr> create flash
[08:45] <Hawkwind> khirr: Then ask you in your native language channel.  What is your native language ?
[08:45] <intelikey> DaSkreech what about it ?
[08:45] <khirr> spanish
[08:45] <soulrider> ah
[08:45] <soulrider> :)
[08:45] <khirr> si :D
[08:45] <Hawkwind> khirr: Then ask in #Ubuntu-ES or #Kubuntu-ES
[08:45] <soulrider> estas registrado? podemos hablar por PM
[08:46] <khirr> si estoy registrado, pero nose como logearme
[08:46] <Hawkwind> English only here please
[08:46] <soulrider> escribe /msg nickserv identify <password>
[08:46] <soulrider> sry hawk <3
[08:46] <Tm_T> Mooh
[08:46] <khirr> listo
[08:46] <khirr> vamos a private
[08:46] <Mondor> Yes, this channel is for native africans only.
[08:46] <Hawkwind> !es
[08:46] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:47] <Hawkwind> khirr: ^^^^^^^^^^^
[08:47] <LjL> khirr: /msg nickserv identify tu-password
[08:47] <B-Minus_> is it possible to use the windows fonts in kde ?
[08:47] <khirr> thanks
[08:47] <Hawkwind> B-Minus_: If you install msttcorefonts
[08:47] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Ah you said you were a plumber :) tee is a plumbing tool
[08:47] <B-Minus_> allright
[08:47] <B-Minus_> and then i need to set it to every application individualy ?
[08:48] <Hawkwind> B-Minus_: You can also import the fonts from your windows box if you have one
[08:48] <intelikey> yes it is.
[08:48] <Hawkwind> B-Minus_: You might could do it globally in kcontrol -> Fonts or something like that
[08:48] <intelikey> so is cat
[08:48] <B-Minus_> Hawkwind: ok tnx gonna try
[08:49] <Martijn81> B-Minus_: yep, i have tahoma.ttf imported, but not all what should be bold get bold then
[08:49] <Hawkwind> B-Minus_: There is also kfontview which allows you to view them, then you can import them or whatever
[08:49] <Hawkwind> I have imported all the Windows Vista fonts, the new ones.  There are quite a few nice new fonts actually
[08:50] <B-Minus_> hm sounds great
[08:50] <Martijn81> aha, i don't have vista, maybe i should get the iso, just for the fonts :p
[08:52] <intelikey> it will make your pipes leak
[08:54] <age1172> can i install vga driver for my ati radeon mobility x1600 on kubuntu correctly?
[08:55] <age1172> because i tried with fglrx and ati driver and failed
[08:55] <nabil> i have ati radeon 1x1300 how do i get the resolution 1280X800
[08:56] <age1172> the games runs very slow
[08:56] <DaSkreech> !info kq
[08:56] <ubotu> kq: adventure game in the spirit of Final Fantasy. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.98+cvs.20031006-6.1build1 (dapper), package size 180 kB, installed size 644 kB
[08:56] <nabil> i have ati radeon X1300 how do i get the resolution 1280X800 on my laptop
[08:56] <age1172> and kubuntu is very slow
[08:57] <nabil> i have ati radeon X1300 how do i get the resolution 1280X800 on my laptop after installing kubuntu
[08:57] <Martijn81> intelikey: my pipes?
[08:57] <GeorgeM36Gr> what would you choose in terms of speed and stability? 64 or 32 version of kubuntu?
[08:57] <nabil> i have ati radeon X1300 how do i get the resolution 1280X800 on my laptop after installing kubuntu
[08:57] <intelikey> Martijn81 no.
[08:58] <Martijn81> k :)
[08:58] <age1172> please help
[08:58] <age1172> can i install vga driver for my ati radeon mobility x1600 on kubuntu correctly?
[08:58] <age1172> because i tried with fglrx and ati driver and failed
[08:58] <intelikey> GeorgeM36Gr i'd use 64 if i had a 64bit system.  but you should consider also "what  will and wont run on 64"
[08:59] <age1172> kubuntu is very slow because of that
[08:59] <GeorgeM36Gr> intelikey what it wont work?
[08:59] <age1172> and the games runs very slow
[08:59] <trappist> GeorgeM36Gr: 32bit-only things like flash and windows codecs require some work
[09:00] <nabil> i have ati radeon X1300 how do i get the resolution 1280X800 on my laptop after installing kubuntu
[09:00] <GeorgeM36Gr> trappist flash in webpages and in general?
[09:00] <intelikey> GeorgeM36Gr there are some things that as of yet, have no 64bit support.
[09:00] <trappist> GeorgeM36Gr: yes, for example
[09:00] <trappist> GeorgeM36Gr: there's more than one way to make these things work, but they take some extra effort and know-how
[09:00] <GeorgeM36Gr> is it considerably faster? (the 64bit versioni mean)
[09:01] <Mondor> It can't be.
[09:01] <Mondor> 5-10% maybe.
[09:02] <GeorgeM36Gr> ok since I am a newbie can you help me choose? I am about to download the edgy version for my core2duo system what shall i choose?
[09:02] <GeorgeM36Gr> 32 or 64?
[09:02] <Mondor> Depends from your needs.
[09:02] <Mondor> Do you have a camera, scanner, etc
[09:02] <GeorgeM36Gr> the things that I need to work require XP...so I dont really mind... but office and the like is a nice addition
[09:03] <Mondor> XP is a windows XP?  Install 64-bit then, to not reinstall later.
[09:05] <GeorgeM36Gr> Mondor but as my scanner/photocopier/printer are not supported (drivers) by xp 64 thats why I am still with 32
[09:06] <Mondor> Do you think they will be supported by Kubuntu?
[09:06] <khirr> amigo?
[09:06] <khirr> estaS?
[09:06] <GeorgeM36Gr> Mondor I dont know
[09:06] <GeorgeM36Gr> Mondor no HCL
[09:06] <Mondor> I mean - you can try, see if you can make everything to work, then reinstall if needed. Try it for yourself, that should be fun.
[09:07] <khirr> kien habla espaol?
[09:07] <GeorgeM36Gr> Mondor you are right.... btw does wine work on 64?
[09:07] <intelikey> esay me no comprenda no hoblas espanol
[09:07] <Mondor> Everything works under 64-bits.
[09:08] <cpk2> i think wine might work with chroot
[09:08] <cpk2> for 64bit people
[09:08] <GeorgeM36Gr> hola zorglu_
[09:08] <soulrider> khirr: P<M
[09:08] <soulrider> PM*
[09:08] <mots> well
[09:08] <khirr> ok
[09:08] <Mondor> Good point. But it works, anyway :)
[09:08] <mots> i guess i b0rked konqueror
[09:09] <zorglu_> hi
[09:09] <mots> i deselected all toolbars
[09:09] <mots> and now i don't find any way to add ones
[09:09] <mots> >:O
[09:09] <intelikey> mots so go in the menu and put back what you want
[09:09] <GeorgeM36Gr> ok made up my mind... 32 bit... lol
[09:09] <mots> well
[09:09] <GeorgeM36Gr> thanx for the help guyz
[09:09] <mots> how do I get into the menu?
[09:09] <mots> >:O
[09:09] <zorglu_> mots: try 'ctrl-m'
[09:10] <intelikey> f9 maybe ?
[09:10] <intelikey> i cant check cause i didn't have knoq running when i removed kde
[09:10] <mots> none of those worked
[09:11] <mots> >:O
[09:11] <intelikey> is konqueror running ?
[09:11] <intelikey> it has to be running for that
[09:11] <ubuntu> could someone tell me how to watch the latest flash media on the ubuntu live cd through firefox
[09:12] <intelikey> cant be done
[09:12] <mots> well
[09:12] <mots> for sure its runnin
[09:12] <JacksLivr> afternoon all: i am used to fedora/red hat. I use the chkconfg command to add/remove/list what init scripts fire off at a particular runlevel. what is the equiv in ubuntu? (ex. httpd  0:off  1:off  2:on  3:on  4:off  5:on  6:off)
[09:13] <intelikey> and there is no menu at the top of the konq window mots ?
[09:13] <JacksLivr> update-rc.d looks like it does some of that
[09:13] <SiLOX> My computer wont start "devices/platform/i8042/serio0/serio2/bus errror" PLEASE HELP ME!!
[09:14] <mots> well
[09:14] <mots> nothing
[09:14] <mots> tbh
[09:14] <cpk2> !runlevel
[09:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:14] <cpk2> !init
[09:14] <ubotu> Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[09:15] <mots> http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7888/bildschirmfotoaboutblankfinderrf1.png
[09:15] <JacksLivr> cool, thanks, looking now
[09:15] <mots> thats what my konq looks like atm
[09:15] <mots> intelikey: any ideas?
[09:15] <intelikey> you can always reset it to default if you need to.   "logout drop to a console and do; find ~/.kde -name konqueror -exec rm {} \;
[09:15] <mots> well
[09:16] <mots> sounds evil
[09:16] <TheGateKeeper> ubuntu: try this frig...
[09:16] <TheGateKeeper> kate ~/.mozilla/firefox/pluginreg.dat
[09:16] <TheGateKeeper> then change Shockwave Flash 7.0 r68:$ to Shockwave Flash 9.0 r68:$
[09:16] <intelikey> no that would be rm -fr ~ ;cp /etc/skel/.??* ~
[09:16] <mots> intelikey
[09:16] <mots> didn't help in any way
[09:16] <mots> >:O
[09:17] <intelikey> that's a full reset plus data loss
[09:17] <mots> well
[09:17] <mots> did that
[09:17] <mots> nothing changed
[09:17] <mots> >:O
[09:17] <mots> mots@nonsense:~$ find ~/.kde -name konqueror -exec rm {} \;
[09:17] <mots> rm: Entfernen von /home/mots/.kde/share/apps/konqueror nicht mglich: Is a directory
[09:17] <mots> rm: Entfernen von /home/mots/.kde/share/apps/kthememanager/themes/original/wallpapers/konqueror nicht mglich: Is a directory
[09:17] <mots> rm: Entfernen von /home/mots/.kde/share/apps/kstyle/themes/original/wallpapers/konqueror nicht mglich: Is a directory
[09:17] <mots> rm: Entfernen von /home/mots/.kde/share/apps/kstyle/themes/Vista Makeover/wallpapers/konqueror nicht mglich: Is a directory
[09:18] <intelikey> nice flood.   were you logged out when you did that ?  or was kde running ?
[09:19] <intelikey> i've got kde running right but it's no longer installed on this system.
[09:19] <mots> well
[09:20] <LjL> intelikey: wow, that's quite a feat :P
[09:21] <intelikey> LjL not really.    you could sudo apt-get remove `apt-cache search kde | cut -d' ' -f1`        and have the same thing.
[09:21] <ubuntu> gatekeeper I entered the script in terminal it said command not found