[00:01] <erUSUL> puszy: probably you want the cpufreq applet. right click on a panel choose add to panel search for the cpu freq monitor
[00:04] <erUSUL> puszy: if you click on it you can choose the cpu governor
[00:04] <erUSUL> puszy: ondemand (default) powersave; performances etc ...
[00:04] <erUSUL> puszy: really ondemand should just work in all situations
[00:05] <puszy> error :P smthg like "You cannot change freq of cpu"
[00:05] <erUSUL> puszy: :/
[00:06] <erUSUL> puszy: are you sure the cpu can scale and that thwe option is enabled in BIOS ?
[00:06] <puszy> it works at 100% so it's fine xD
[00:06] <puszy> dunno, on WIndows that worked
[00:07] <puszy> but power mode was good for university
[00:08] <porter1> Does anyone know of a good resource to look in detail at how upstart works? There isn't as much information about upstart as there is for the traditional init system.
[00:10] <Ben90> hello :)
[00:10] <erUSUL> !upstart
[00:10] <erUSUL> puszy: then i dunno
[00:10] <puszy> anyway thx :)
[00:10] <Ben90> hello? :P
[00:10] <SmartSsa> does the 'powernowd' package need to be installed for that to work?  It's been a while since I've messed with cpu scaling.
[00:11] <h2g2bob> Ben90: hello
[00:11] <Ben90> can i ask something?
[00:11] <natex> Ben90: no
[00:11] <natex> Ben90: :)
[00:11] <Ben90> hey :P
[00:11] <h2g2bob> Ben90: go ahead
[00:12] <puszy> kurwa! today they start to censore internet in my country o.O
[00:12] <Ben90> is there a low-latency kernel package?
[00:12] <Ben90> for intrepid ibex
[00:12] <erUSUL> Ben90: yes the -rt one
[00:12] <Ben90> how do i get it?
[00:12] <d0c> is it a common problem to get the Errno 5 Input/output error?
[00:13] <d0c> tried on two PCS now with 2 different discs
[00:13] <daftykins> Ben90: sudo apt-get install linux-image-rt ?
[00:13] <d0c> both same error at 65%
[00:13] <Ben90> ok brb
[00:13] <d0c> ubuntu just wont install
[00:13] <Flannel> d0c: Did you verify the integrity of the CDs?
[00:14] <d0c> how would i do that?
[00:14] <d0c> (and no, i didnt)
[00:14] <Flannel> d0c: There's a "Check CD for defects" (or some verbage like that) on the boot menu of the CDs (second from the bottom maybe?)
[00:14] <totopr> hi , one question, I have ubuntu 9.04 and modules ehci_hcd uhci_hcd seems not loaded
[00:17] <h2g2bob> d0c: a quick check on ubuntuforums suggests it might happen for some hardware configs http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=600126
[00:17] <totopr> usb transfer rate after some seconds go down to 2 MB/sec
[00:17] <totopr> on usb 2.0
[00:18] <falk> I am trying to hunt down where middle mouse button is binded too. Does anyone know of a method to find what is using it? Its not a compiz plugin....
[00:18] <soreau> falk: Have you tried disabling compiz to make sure?
[00:18] <falk> yup
[00:18] <h2g2bob> totopr: you could load it with modprobe, i guess?
[00:19] <Nikty> Hi, what's the name of default cursor theme in Ubuntu?
[00:19] <falk> gone through all of the gconf, searching for button2 and stuff
[00:19] <soreau> falk: What makes you think middle click is bound to something?
[00:19] <falk> i know mmb on the titlebar lowers the window
[00:19] <chalcedony> is there anywhere i should ask besides here for help getting skype to work with voice? i have ubuntu 9.04
[00:19] <falk> programs/option that use the mmb only work for a split second.
[00:19] <falk> for example, i can't rotate in blender. it only works for a split second
[00:20] <falk> same with xmind
 both modules are not present in  /lib/modules/2.6.28-17-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/host
[00:20] <falk> and the window resize alt-mmb does work either, it just lowers the window
[00:20] <d0c> thanks. reading now
[00:22] <_wast3lanD> im having troubles with ubuntu server 9.10: i went to 'make' something and i get an error saying something like: "gcc not found"
[00:22] <_wast3lanD> help me!
[00:22] <uninverted> For some reason, the default on my box is to have the right alt key as something other than alt. What line can I _add_ to my xorg.conf to restore it to normal? (I can't just delete the XkbOptions line, since I can't find it)
[00:22] <_wast3lanD> also, no internet (the thing im trying to make is the wireless card driver)
[00:23] <Atlantean> I've installed ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop and doesn't connect to my wifi and ethernet, anyone knows why?
[00:24] <blakkheim> _wast3lanD: if you can't figure out the problem there, you shouldn't be using a server
[00:24] <chalcedony> blakkheim, people do learn by doing
[00:25] <Dr_Willis> uninverted:  check the keyboard perferances yet under 'layout options' thers lots of settings in there
[00:25] <timahvo1> hi guys
[00:25] <Wipster> I have managed to build a new kernel for a basic live cd and installed a module, is there a way I can revert the packages in the chroot back to the basic system, because alot was installed during the kernel recompile, the basic like 190mb atm I'm at 2.2gig
[00:26] <jibberia> h2g2bob: fyi, i asked somebody to flip a coin, and it came up with "REBOOT" and grub loaded and booted normally. then i came. now i'm going to run away from this dell as fast as i can.
[00:26] <timahvo1> running jaunty trying to install firefox-3.6 from a ppa but keep getting Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.2pre and 1.9.2pre.
[00:26] <timahvo1> any help ?
[00:26] <Craig_Dem> You need 1.9.2pre or something?
[00:27] <h2g2bob> jibberia: phew!
[00:27] <jibberia> yeah thanks for the advice
[00:27] <h2g2bob> np
[00:27] <timahvo1> I have xulrunner-1.92 installed
[00:27] <zomfgcrazy> Where would I set default boot OS for a dualboot Ubuntu/WinXP hdd?
[00:27] <uninverted> Dr_Willis: I'm using a funky tiling WM and have just about none of gnome installed
[00:27] <timahvo1> *1.9.2
[00:27] <timahvo1> tried xulrunner-1.9.2 --register-global
[00:28] <Jazz> #ubuntu-classroom
[00:28] <timahvo1> still nothing
[00:28] <jibberia> h2g2bob: it was either spend an evening trying to restore that machine *somehow* or not cancel a date. now i get to go get my flirt on. gotta remember not to mention linux, at all, ever, ever. ;)
[00:29] <h2g2bob> jibberia: good luck :) much more fun i hope
[00:29] <jibberia> sometimes there are better things than making your mom's linux laptop work, indeed
[00:29] <jibberia> best of nights, everybody
[00:29] <jibberia> ciao
[00:30] <brianherman> Your mom's cool if she has linux on her laptop
[00:30] <timahvo1> anyone else have similar problem wih jaunty ?
[00:31] <brianherman> timahvo1 whats ur problemo?
[00:31] <timahvo1> rying to start firefox-3.6 from cmd line installedfrom ppa on jaunty
[00:31] <timahvo1> get Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.2pre and 1.9.2pre.
[00:32] <j-3-r-g_> yo
[00:32] <j-3-r-g_> wats up
[00:33] <j-3-r-g_> anyone familiar with LMMS
[00:33] <krad> j-3-r-g_, sure, whatcha need
[00:33] <timahvo1> fyi GRE= Gecko Runtime Env
[00:33] <j-3-r-g_> well krad i need to get sound out of it currently it has the ALSA driver selected but doesn't seem to work
[00:33] <timahvo1>  I think :-/
[00:34] <j-3-r-g_> i want to know how can i go about debuging exactly wat is the issue
[00:34] <j-3-r-g_> im not familiar with sound settings in linux
[00:35] <dominik{true}> Hello World?
[00:35] <timahvo1> brianherman: any ideas ?
[00:35] <dominik{true}> Cool, it works
[00:36] <mikobuntu> j-3-r-g_,  i am a bit
[00:36] <bobino> hi guys, is there anyone out here using evolution for its gmail account?
[00:36] <wolter> how can i reset my xorg.conf file?
[00:36] <Jazz> can anyone help me please im having trouble with x chat
[00:36] <wolter> xorg is taking up 20% proc use
[00:37] <xXxLORDxXx> heee
[00:37] <bobino> i followed a howto but missing info
[00:37] <xXxLORDxXx> hola
[00:37] <xXxLORDxXx> alguien save español xD
[00:37] <xXxLORDxXx> nadie
[00:37] <bobino> wolter: just mv it to another name it will generate a default one
[00:37] <xXxLORDxXx> ?
[00:37] <xXxLORDxXx> jajajajajja
[00:37] <xXxLORDxXx> nadie weyes
[00:37] <DARKGuy> hey wtf, anybody knows why my numeric keypad isn't working in X, but it works outside X and other OSes?!
[00:37] <ugarit> how do I restore grub after windows 7 took over the mbr?
[00:38] <bobino> ugarit: liveCD and reinstall grub or chroot and grub-install
[00:38] <bobino> guys, no one here using evolution with gmail?  and evolution with HTC phone?
[00:38] <DARKGuy> oh hey it's fixed
[00:38] <DARKGuy> how come "control the mouse using the keypad" was enabled? I never enabled it before :/
[00:38] <timahvo1> anyone successfully install ff-3.6 on jaunty ?
[00:38] <timahvo1> am in trouble here
[00:39] <timahvo1> Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.2pre and 1.9.2pre.
[00:39] <daftykins> DARKGuy: apparently there's a keypress for it, to enable it, check out accessibility or something maybe you accidentally turned it on
[00:39] <david16> Anyone get vlc to recognize there upnp servers in Karmic?
[00:40] <DARKGuy> daftykins: I'm checking, and all the checkboxes in Accessibility are off
[00:40] <david16> I have twonky running and can't use a application to access it...
[00:40] <daftykins> DARKGuy: yeah now, what about before? :)
[00:41] <DARKGuy> daftykins: same state :P the Mouse tab had the "control the mouse using the keypad" option enabled, but I never enabled it before
[00:41] <daftykins> well just bear it in mind.
[00:41] <DARKGuy> daftykins: in fact I never touched the keyboard settings today, all I was doing was programming when suddenly the "/" key stopped working :(
[00:41] <timahvo1> anyone ?
[00:41] <timahvo1> firefox-3.6?
[00:42] <sprit> hi all
[00:42] <daftykins> timahvo1: you trying to instal latest firefox from mozilla?
[00:42] <sprit> I need help with a digital camera
[00:42] <shane2peru> why is it that on Linux the print option never gives you a paper choice (card stock, photo paper, plain paper etc.)???
[00:42] <daftykins> !ask | sprit
[00:42] <timahvo1> daftykins: yes
[00:42] <sprit> I cannot see it
[00:42] <timahvo1> daftykins: from ppa
[00:42] <daftykins> sprit: are you plugging in a card via a card reader or a camera directly via USB?
[00:42] <sprit> directly via USB
[00:43] <daftykins> timahvo1: what PPA?
[00:43] <bobino> no one using gmail and evolution mail?
[00:43] <daftykins> sprit: do you see anything other than your hard disk using "sudo fdisk -l" in terminal?
[00:43] <sprit> it's a KodakM1073
[00:43] <ugarit> bobino thanks
[00:43] <shane2peru> bobino, yes, they work great together
[00:43] <sprit> let me see
[00:43] <daftykins> sprit: and i take it the camera's on?
[00:43] <Wipster> is there a way I can strip out the packages I have used to compile a kernel once its done? trying to make a livecd modification but I'm still hovering around 2gig. I have removed the main packages the kernel install needed but it hasn't got rid of their deps
[00:43] <timahvo1> daftykins: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[00:43] <sprit> camera is on
[00:44] <shane2peru> why is it that on Linux the print option never gives you a paper choice (card stock, photo paper, plain paper etc.)???
[00:44] <bobino> shane2peru: how did you manage it?
[00:44] <daftykins> !repeat | shane2peru
[00:44] <sprit> daftykins I only see my hard disk
[00:44] <shane2peru> bobino, been quite a while ago, I think I just followed the google instructions, I did imapi
[00:44] <daftykins> sprit: ok try unplugging the camera, doing "lsusb" then plug it back in, see if anything changes
[00:45] <daftykins> (with lsusb)
[00:45] <oberon> I have this keyboard problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437415
[00:45] <LinuX2half> !DVD
[00:45] <daftykins> timahvo1: ok sorry no experience with that
[00:45] <shane2peru> bobino, here is a guide:  http://tuxicity.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/howto-set-up-gmail-in-evolution-gnomes-mail-client-and-organizer/
[00:45] <eugen71> k
[00:45] <timahvo1> daftykins: still using 3.5 ?
[00:46] <shane2peru> bobino, ahh, here is the Ubuntu one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingGmailWithEvolution
[00:46] <daftykins> timahvo1: not running ubuntu with X
[00:46] <sprit> daftykins... nothing
[00:46] <bobino> shane2peru: well, i don t get the google instructions for evolution, and in google settings, there s something weird cause they do not mention in Imap and POP forwarding the name of the email adress
[00:46] <bobino> thanks
[00:46] <timahvo1> daftykins: gotta love elinks ;)
[00:46] <shane2peru> bobino, the ubuntu one would be the best to follow
[00:46] <daftykins> oberon: i only have experience with Xen on ubuntu 8.04 LTS, i'd recommend trying there. an earlier release is a waste of time imo
[00:47] <newbuntu> hi
[00:47] <daftykins> timahvo1: elinks?
[00:47] <shane2peru> bobino, It is pretty simple once you get the few tricks they show in those guides
[00:47] <newbuntu> i need help
[00:47] <daftykins> !ask | newbuntu
[00:47] <newbuntu> i cant connect
[00:47] <zenlunatic> _wast3lanD: why are you using wireless on a server?
[00:47] <sprit> daftykins... nothing
[00:47] <shane2peru> daftykins, is quick on the draw with the bot tonight!
[00:47] <timahvo1> daftykins: text based browser
[00:47] <_wast3lanD> zenlunatic: server is on a laptop
[00:47] <oberon> daftykins, I have the problem on a 2.28.2 (recent) gnome installation
[00:47] <timahvo1> like w3m
[00:47] <newbuntu> I can`t connect to Internet because jews are playing with my cable,how i can fix this?
[00:47] <daftykins> timahvo1: oic :)
[00:48] <daftykins> shane2peru: ja too much experience idling here ;)
[00:48] <_wast3lanD> zenlunatic: i have it wired to teh router right now, so its working... but i dont want it there long term.
[00:48] <daftykins> oberon: yeah but on dapper? :P
[00:48] <timahvo1> lol
[00:48] <bobino> shane2peru: thanks! i m on it
[00:48] <newbuntu> nigga u gay
[00:48] <newbuntu> crank dat ku klux klan
[00:48] <daftykins> sprit: to be honest i'd use a card reader if it has a memory card
[00:49] <sprit> ok
[00:49] <daftykins> !ops
[00:49] <shane2peru> bobino, no prob, if you get hung up, let us know
[00:49] <datacrusher> hello everyone, im trying to use some services as twitcam, livestream.. whem the popup asks me to allow flash to use my webcam, i cant use the button to confirm... how do i force flash to be able to do that?
[00:49] <datacrusher> is that a bug?
[00:49] <detrix> anyone know how to get an ASUS Eee netbook to access the bios or how do I get it to boot off of a usb memory stick?
[00:49] <shane2peru> why is it that on Linux the print option never gives you a paper choice (card stock, photo paper, plain paper etc.)???
[00:49] <LinuX2half> Will I able to burn a disc that supports 16x speed while my driver only support at maximum 8x?
[00:50] <shane2peru> detrix, hmm, I just did that not to long ago, it was quite tricky
[00:50] <shane2peru> detrix, it is buried in the bios somewhere, I think you have to hit tab to get the bios
[00:50] <shane2peru> detrix, the splash screen should tell you what to hit, I can't remember now, may have been F2
[00:51] <detrix> shane2peru: thats the thing, I am not getting a splash screen.
[00:51] <Rafael> hello, if ubuntu shows a connection as available but i can't connect to it, is it a problem wit
[00:51] <shane2peru> detrix, really?  is it hidden with an asus splash screen?
[00:51] <miki> hi people... i cant get sound to work anymore.
[00:51] <shane2peru> detrix, what asus is it?
[00:51] <daftykins> detrix: a lot of the Eee's use a feature which prevents the BIOS being easily accessible. what i recommend you do is shutdown, turn off the laptop, remove the battery, disconnect mains power, then plug it back in. then start up with the power button and try F2/delete/etc to try and get in
[00:52] <detrix> shane2peru: the F2 worked.
[00:52] <Rafael>  hello, if ubuntu shows a connection as available but i can't connect to it, is it a problem with my 3g modem(nokia cs-10) or the way the connection is configured?
[00:52] <miki> yesterday I had all the options like HDA.. and all these other sound drivers but now theres only 2 and they wont work'
[00:52] <DexterP17> I don't know if I did this irc right can anyone help me?
[00:52] <Equs> detrix try esc. that is what it is on my EEE 701
[00:52] <miki> how can i reinstall my sound drivers
[00:52] <detrix> I am in, thanks
[00:52] <daftykins> DexterP17: ask away
[00:52] <shane2peru> detrix, ok, glad you got it, the bios is a little confusing, so poke around till you find booting off the usb
[00:52]  * shane2peru thinks asus should always check usb boot first,
[00:53] <daftykins> detrix: it's usually pretty vague like "external device boot"
[00:53] <tato42> detrix u need to hit f2 and enter setup and then enable f12 to choose boot options
[00:53] <daftykins> shane2peru: hmm, not really, kinda security issue
[00:53] <tonyg> ok so I need some help how do I find a desent tutoral for learn ubuntu 9.10
[00:53] <DexterP17> I tried to register an account with irc on empathy but it said that it could not register with nickserv and i am real confused
[00:53] <shane2peru> daftykins, ok, granted good point there, but it is so buried and obscured in there it is a real pain
[00:54] <shane2peru> daftykins, most people here wouldn't know how to boot off a usb even anyway,
[00:54] <daftykins> shane2peru: yeah agree with you there, BIOS interfaces need redesigning
[00:54] <bobino> shane2peru: thanks, i ve done it. just hae to check now.
[00:54] <bobino> shane2peru: another one: do you use synce or similar to sync your PDA phone and evolution?
[00:54] <shane2peru> bobino, glad you got it, you did it, not me, ;)
[00:55] <shane2peru> bobino, Palm is the way to go
[00:55] <daftykins> DexterP17: please join #freenode for network help
[00:55] <jake614> hi everyone! i would really appreciate some help, all my usb ports stopped working
[00:55] <DexterP17> how do i do that?
[00:55] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[00:55] <daftykins> jake614: shutdown your computer, remove the mains cable, then wait a few seconds, then plug it back on and switch on. if you're on a laptop, remove mains and the battery
[00:55] <shane2peru> bobino, what phone do you have?
[00:55] <daftykins> jake614: this will cause USB to reset and all should work again
[00:55] <bobino> shane2peru: HTC touch diamond
[00:56] <jake614> alright, shall try that, how long should i wait?
[00:56] <shane2peru> bobino, hmm, don't know nothing about that. :)  I have always used palm
[00:56] <daftykins> jake614: only about 30 seconds
[00:56] <sivel> joh6nn: try installing the backport modules
[00:56] <daftykins> DexterP17: er, does typing "/j #freenode" do anything? sorry i have no experience with empathy as an IRC client
[00:56] <joh6nn> sivel: i did; so far, no change
[00:56] <joh6nn> also tried switching to wicd
[00:56] <sivel> hmmm
[00:56] <bobino> shane2peru: no worries, i ll have a look and also  I ll check the gmail account
[00:56] <jake614> just so you know, this is a laptop and i did shut down and leave it shut for hours, and still didnt work
[00:57] <jake614> i did not remove the battery though, will that do anything?
[00:57] <shane2peru> sebsebseb, what was that other channel?  is it gone?
[00:57] <DexterP17> where do i type all this stuff at do i use a terminal or what
[00:57] <miki> !sound driver
[00:57] <bobino> shane2peru: this worked! coooool
[00:57] <miki> !ati
[00:57] <bobino> i guess i can do same with hotmail?
[00:57] <BlackFlag20> im having problems installing wine on my computer anyone wanna help?
[00:58] <miki> !sound
[00:58] <blakkheim> BlackFlag20: whats the problem
[00:58] <daftykins> DexterP17: just in the chat window
[00:58] <shane2peru> bobino, I'm not sure, I thought hotmail did away with their pop access?
[00:58] <daftykins> hotmail only has paid POP afaik
[00:58] <shane2peru> daftykins, that is what I thought
[00:58] <bobino> shane2peru: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingHotmailWithEvolution
[00:59] <BlackFlag20> whenever i try to download wine from the ubuntu software center i get a message that has the title PACKAGE DEPENDENCIES CANNOT BE RESOLVED and this message"This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Futhermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time."
[00:59] <blakkheim> BlackFlag20: sudo aptitude install wine
[00:59] <shane2peru> bobino, I'm pretty sure hotmail locked their pop mail to only paying users
[01:00] <shane2peru> bobino, so if you are a paying user, you should be fine
[01:00] <shane2peru> BlackFlag20, also you can open up System -> Administration -> Synaptic  and try with that
[01:01] <zomfgcrazy> What are 'sda1' and 'sda2'?  Why can't all of the partitions be in the same 'sd'?
[01:01] <BlackFlag20> if you type $ winecfg into your terminal are you supposed to show one or two versions of wine?
[01:01] <shane2peru> zomfgcrazy, how many hard drives do you have?
[01:01] <bobino> shane2peru: i m not so you mean it s useless to go forward with the guide?
[01:01] <DexterP17> register mack72676<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:01] <blakkheim> ^
[01:01] <blakkheim> nice one bro
[01:01] <zomfgcrazy> shane2peru: only working with one at the moment.
[01:01] <ChogyDan> decoder: time to get a new password
[01:02] <ChogyDan> DexterP17: time to get a new password
[01:02] <DexterP17> register mack72676<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:02] <Billiard> zomfgcrazy: sda1 and sda2 are partitions 1 and 2 on your first drive
[01:02] <shane2peru> bobino, I'm not 100% sure, but I would double check before going through the setup
[01:02] <BlackFlag20> cause when i type $ winecfg it shows wine and wine 1.2
[01:02] <daftykins> zomfgcrazy: yes "sd" is a hard disk, then "a" is the first hard disk
[01:03] <bobino> shane2peru: i ve done it. you think i will have to pay then?
[01:03] <zomfgcrazy> how come ubuntu install (and ubuntuswap) appear /within/ sda2 (inGparted) but sda1 is /itself/ the windows partition?
[01:03] <Wipster> is there a way to remove the packages which where installed to satisfy the dependancy of something else once I remove it?
[01:03] <DexterP17> register <mack72676><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:03] <git__> hi
[01:03] <bobino> or will it just not work?
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  pastebinit the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' and let the channel take a look
[01:03] <andruk> DexterP17: you want to type something like /msg NickServer register mack72676<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:03] <daftykins> zomfgcrazy: because of the MBR specification. bootable partitions must be one of four maximum, and these are sda1 through sda4. then logical drives are numbered from sda5 ->
[01:03] <Billiard> zomfgcrazy: because that is how it set it up? windows on first partition, linux on 2nd?
[01:03] <shane2peru> bobino, I really don't know much about hotmail
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  if sda2 is a extended partiion - its holding logical partions.
[01:04] <bobino> no worries i ll figure it out and let you know
[01:04] <rww> DexterP17: switch to a server window and do /msg nickserv register putpasswordhere putemailhere
[01:04] <andruk> DexterP17: except, now that everybody has seen your password, you should not use that one...
[01:04] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis, it is not on this computer.
[01:04] <rww> DexterP17: and use a different password from the one you just messaged to the whole channel twice.
[01:04] <yoyoned> !irc
[01:04] <bobino> shane2peru: WOW it works but i had to cancel it cause it was retreiving 712 messages... i just wanted from now on..
[01:06] <zomfgcrazy> Currently I have unallocated space within sda2.  I would like to install Ubuntu in that space.  Must I delete sda2 first, or can I install Ubuntu within that space?..
[01:07] <daftykins> zomfgcrazy: can you upload an image of gparted or whatever partitioning utility you're looking at?
[01:07] <daftykins> i think said picture would tell a thousand partitions...
[01:07] <yoyoned> zomfgcrazy: how much space
[01:07] <Billiard> zomfgcrazy: if sda2 is an extended partiton, and you arent going to have more than 4 partitions, i would delete it and just use primary partitions
[01:07] <yoyoned> zomfgcrazy: does  sda2 contain data,
[01:08] <zomfgcrazy> daftykins, unfortunately it's on a seperate computer with no net connection currently booted on an install cd
[01:08] <daftykins> zomfgcrazy: you not got a flash drive to transfer?
[01:08] <zomfgcrazy> yoyoned, sda2 contains "unallocated space"
[01:08] <zomfgcrazy> daftykins, one moment.
[01:08] <daftykins> thanks
[01:09] <yoyoned> zomfgcrazy: are there any partitions higher than 2 or do you just have sda1 and sda2
[01:09] <daftykins> yoyoned: please just wait for a pic so it's easier for everyone (:
[01:09] <daftykins> better to know than guess
[01:10] <yoyoned> daftykins: he's posting a pic somewhere?
[01:10] <daftykins> ja
[01:10] <jake614> hi everyone! i would appreciate any help, my usb ports are not working
[01:10] <zomfgcrazy> yoyoned, just 2.
[01:11] <daftykins> jake614: battery and mains out didn't make any difference?
[01:11] <jake614> nope
[01:11] <daftykins> hmm :/
[01:11] <Matthew11> Hello! I have a problem. I trying to set up my ubuntu for packet writing, but the pktcdvd module is missing. Where can I found it?
[01:11] <zomfgcrazy> (-> http://i45.tinypic.com/316aqvo.png <-)
[01:11] <jake614> i think this must be a software issue
[01:11] <daftykins> jake614: which ubuntu and what changed last between now and when it didn't work?
[01:11] <ardchoille> How do I get "Encrypt" and "Sign" options in the nautilus right click menu? Which package do I need to install? I already have seahorse and gnupg
[01:11] <rww> ardchoille: seahorse-plugins
[01:12] <daftykins> zomfgcrazy: ah yeah that's fine, delete the sda2 then install \o/
[01:12] <yoyoned> zomfgcrazy: you can install there
[01:12] <songer> why audio disappears after a while on firefox
[01:12] <miki> could someone help me with my sound, all the drivers are messed up
[01:12] <Billiard> zomfgcrazy: i would delete sda2 and just use primary partitions if you arent going to have more than 4 total
[01:12] <zomfgcrazy> Billiard, I don't think I understand the difference between primary and logical
[01:13] <Squeese> Fresh ubuntu user, having slight problems with right click - Right click always ends up selecting the first option on the menu, I have "untitled folder" everywhere :P
[01:13] <jake614> just so you know, this toshiba laptop came with vista, i switched to ubuntu jaunty in may 09 and everything worked perfectly, then switched to karmic when it was released, and again everything was working just fine (except the sound), while on karmic, usb devices stopped working after an update (after two months of working fine), then downgraded to jaunty again, got sound back, but no usb
[01:13] <daftykins> zomfgcrazy: on an MBR (normal) hard disk, you can only have 4 primary partitions (only primary are bootable) then logical ones come after. it's an old term from sorta DOS era
[01:13] <jake614> i have a webcam, a mouse and a usb flash, none work in any port, i have 4
[01:14] <daftykins> jake614: have you tried a livecd?
[01:14] <greatend> Come check out new proxy :D http://legit-source.com/
[01:14] <daftykins> to rule out the installed OS
[01:14] <zomfgcrazy> so.. what is the point of a logical partition?
[01:14] <rww> zomfgcrazy: the partition table format you're using supports a maximum of four partitions. Windows and Ubuntu get around this by making the fourth partition an "extended partition" with more pretend-partitions (that look and act just like regular ones) crammed inside it.
[01:14] <ardchoille> rww: do I need to enable those plugins somehow? They aren't showing in the nautilus menu
[01:14] <rww> zomfgcrazy: the pretend partitions are called "logical" oens
[01:14] <rww> ardchoille: restart GNOME, perhaps
[01:15] <daftykins> zomfgcrazy: to have more than the primary ones (:
[01:15] <zomfgcrazy> ahh.. so that's why the ubuntu one looked like it was 'inside' the blue box, graphically, while the windows one 'was'a blue box.
[01:15] <jake614> no, i havent
[01:15] <rww> zomfgcrazy: yes :)
[01:15] <daftykins> yep :)
[01:15] <jake614> do i need to reboot again to try?
[01:15] <zomfgcrazy> So do I want to delete sda2 and install ubuntu over that space as a primary partition?
[01:15] <daftykins> jake614: ah i'd give that a whirl yeah. i'd reboot to boot off a CD ye
[01:15] <Linocks> exit
[01:15] <ardchoille> rww: That worked, thank you
[01:16] <jake614> ok, shall do... thanks again, ill be back to let you know
[01:16] <jake614> which one should i try? jaunty or karmic?
[01:16] <miki> anyone help me with my sound?
[01:16] <Matthew11> Can anybody help pls? I trying to set up my ubuntu (Karimc) to write a dvd+rw with packet writing, but the pktsetup needs the pktcdvd module, and it's missing. Where it can be found?
[01:16] <jake614> i'm most likely to keep jaunty the time being, since sound will not work on karmic
[01:17] <Matthew11> there is a patch for sound
[01:17] <Matthew11> it makes the things better
[01:18] <daftykins> Matthew11: "udftools" package. to find that out i just ran "apt-cache search pktcdvd"
[01:18] <Matthew11> yes, i installed it, but the module is still missing
[01:18] <daftykins> oic
[01:19] <Matthew11> For the sound problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-plugins/+bug/485488
[01:19] <daftykins> he's gone
[01:20] <detrix> I am still having problems getting an ASUS Eee netbook to boot off of a usb memory stick ( a SanDisk Cruzer), and the 1st partition is bootable.  I set the bios 1st device to removable media, 2nd device to San Cruzer, and 3rd the internal Drive.  Its seems to be trying to boot off of it, but I still get windows.  Any ideas?
[01:20] <bankix> Good eavening
[01:21] <daftykins> detrix: what did you make it bootable with?
[01:21] <ascheel> Windows has the false 3.75 GB RAM limit, is Linux the same or does it give a darn about it?
[01:21] <bankix> detrix: Did you ever boot from usb stick? Did it work?
[01:21] <detrix> I used cfdisk
[01:21] <daftykins> ascheel: you have to run a 64-bit OS.
[01:21] <ascheel> daftykins: run a 64-bit OS for what?
[01:21] <daftykins> to get 4GB RAM+ to be usable.
[01:21] <joh6nn> ascheel: to bypass the 3.5G limit
[01:21] <ascheel> 3.75G
[01:22] <bankix> detrix: Booting from USB stick is completely different than booting an internal harddrive.
[01:22] <daftykins> no it's different on different computers
[01:22] <joh6nn> tomato, tomatoh
[01:22] <rww> It'
[01:22] <daftykins> sometimes it's 3.5, sometimes it's 3.75, depends on your graphics card etc
[01:22] <rww> It's 4GB total, including all forms of memory in your computer, so it generally shows up as 3.something.
[01:22] <detrix> My wife has an Acer netbook, and it boots off of this memory stick....
[01:23] <rww> also, I believe Ubuntu does PAE now, but I'm not sure.
[01:23] <bankix> detrix: use the usb-creator or UNetbootin (available for windows) for writing an ubuntu iso image to your usb stick.
[01:23] <miki> whats a command to automaticly install sound drivers?
[01:23] <bankix> detrix: Both programms take care of making the stick bootable.
[01:23] <Matthew11> miki: You shuld add the PPA that contains the upgrade
[01:24] <bankix> detrix: The rest is to your BIOS -- different BIOSes use different methods, most work, but some fail.
[01:24] <miki> What's the PPA?
[01:24] <wolter> how do i reset my xorg.conf?
[01:24] <Zezura> should i dual boot ubuntu with my windows 7? or do u guys think i'll ever use it
[01:24] <DexterP17> I finally go the irc to work thank you to the people that helped me
[01:24] <wolter> miki, personal repository on launchpad (personal package archive)
[01:24] <wolter> miki, whose ppa are you looking for?
[01:24] <wolter> oh i see
[01:25] <Matthew11> https://launchpad.net/~diwic/+archive/ppa
[01:25] <wolter> miki, depends on your sound card
[01:25] <miki> I wouldner know wolter
[01:25] <miki> im just trying to re-install my sound drivers
[01:25] <wolter> miki, what sound card do you have?
[01:25] <miki> an ATI
[01:25] <detrix> bankix: thanks.  I have a normal install onto an 8gig stick, not the install image.
[01:25] <wolter> sound card ati?
[01:25] <miki> yea
[01:25] <miki> I had a link with all the specs, shall I send it to you?
[01:26] <bankix> detrix: The normal grub installer won't boot your usb-drive installed ubuntu, sorry.
[01:26] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[01:26] <krad> stfu people
[01:26] <krad> you're very annoying
[01:26] <Matthew11> miki: lspci | grep media
[01:26] <bankix> detrix: grub installer / grub bootloader
[01:26] <ramadhan> test
[01:26] <miki> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=eb024886e8054ffdb910d279a91a7164abdac9b3
[01:26] <detrix> bankix: correct.  the usb stick has its own grub boot.
[01:27] <detrix> bootload
[01:27] <miki> lspci | grep media - what's meant to happen?
[01:27] <bankix> detrix: yes, but installing grub to the MBR of your usb-disk won't help due it will never be used by the BIOS.
[01:28] <wolter> how do i reset my xorg.conf file?
[01:28] <Matthew11> miki: it isn't important now
[01:28] <bankix> detrix: I fear you only chance is to install grub somewhere on your harddisk so it gets started.
[01:28] <wolter> dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg didn't work
[01:28] <miki> OK
[01:28] <detrix> bankix: I install it with my hard drives physically disconnected so the usb's mbr would be set up
[01:28] <rww> wolter: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:28] <wolter> rww, karmic
[01:28] <DexterP17> does anyone know if it is true that Ubuntu is getting a music store?
[01:29] <bankix> detrix: To be more verbose: When the BIOS boots an USB drive, it won't load the bootloader from the MBR.
[01:29] <Billiard> wolter: you can run without an xorg.conf then
[01:29] <rww> wolter: There isn't an xorg.conf by default, Xorg just uses autodetection. To get back to defaults, you'd just remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:29] <andruk> DexterP17: i doubt it
[01:29] <rww> DexterP17: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:29] <miki> so what now?
[01:29] <teachprint> Problem with keyboard -- I'm using a ibm thinkpad t41 laptop, after recent upgrade my keyboard uses the numloc characters instead of regular characters, can anyone help?
[01:30] <wolter> I don't know if that will solve my problem, Billiard / rww, I came up with it because Xorg is taking too much processor every time i wake up from suspend
[01:30] <wolter> Billiard, but well, I will trust you and remove it
[01:30] <wolter> backup it in case anything happens
[01:30] <rww> wolter: You probably should have asked about that, rather than how to reset xorg.conf, then ;P
[01:30] <bankix> detrix: A solution is to install grub and the grub files in the MBR of your internal harddisk and on a partition on this disk (the filessystem doesn't matter much).
[01:31] <wolter> rww, well I have done that for 3 days and nobody answers, so I began to pioneer :)
[01:31] <bankix> detrix: Then grub could boot the system installed on your usb-disk without a fuss.
[01:31] <David-T> well, there is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/LucidUbuntuOneMusicStore
[01:31] <Matthew11> miki: I don't know :( The link what i was given  is a solution for the cracking noise
[01:31] <wolter> rww, Billiard, I will relog to see what happens.. or should I just start and stop gdm?
[01:31] <miki> Ohh, the noise is irritating lol.
[01:31] <miki> that*
[01:31] <krad> stfu miki
[01:31] <aliendude3500> Hey guys -- could you help me figure out how to play a DVD I bought on my computer? The DVD is Terminator Salvation.  Will the U3 thing on it get in the way of booting with the stick?
[01:34] <aliendude3500> I expect DVDs to "just work" under Linux... :(
[01:34] <rww> miki: follow the channel rules anyway, thanks :)
[01:34] <miki> My sound was working yesterday... but my mic wasnt i attempted to fix it now my HDA sound drivers have gone and I get some ALSA crap that doesnt work
[01:34] <bankix> I'm trying to boot ubuntu 9.10 on an Acer Extensa 5235 notebook. The screen blanks out when the display switches to graphics mode for the splash (or during boot when using nosplash). When booting Ubuntu 9.04, the screen is fine -- but 9.04 lacks several drivers for that notebook.
[01:34] <Dr_Willis> aliendude3500:  for legal reasons thats not going to happen.
[01:34] <jellow> I need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:34] <jellow> though i can't find it
[01:34] <miki> rww ok
[01:35] <aliendude3500> Dr_Willis, I'm not _stealing_ the DVD. I PAID for it... :/
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> aliendude3500:  so some comercial dvd's do work.. but some do not.
[01:35] <blakkheim> jellow: if you're using grub2, you dont havve a menu.lst
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> aliendude3500:  tell it to the courts.. it dosent matter abiouyt the dvd.. its about the encruption/protection.
[01:35] <bankix> The notebook uses an Intel ICH9 chipset with onboard graphics. Any hints what I can try?
[01:35] <jellow> blakkheim: but i need to add a boot option
[01:35] <brophat> will U3 prevent booting UNR on flash drive?
[01:35] <aliendude3500> Dr_Willis, how can I remove the protection?
[01:36] <rww> jellow: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub ; I think there's a line in there for boot options
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> brophat:  ive had all sorts of issues with U3 stuff. i just remove it.
[01:36] <david16> Doesn't libdvdcss solve the encryption issue?
[01:36] <rww> jellow: (and then do sudo update-grub when you've added it)
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> aliendude3500:  try vlc and pointing it at the files you can see on teh disk.
[01:36] <blakkheim> s/gksudo gediit/sudo vi
[01:36] <feedmecereal> Can anyone tell how I can get my computer to beep when I get a new email in my Gmail account?
[01:36] <Matthew11> Any ide for my problem (pktcdvd module)
[01:36] <rww> david16: some DVDs are horribly incompatible, even with libdvdcss installed
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> aliendude3500:  or copy the files from dvd to a folder on the pc and tell vlc to play the folder
[01:36] <bankix> aliendude: Your problem is the copy protection of your DVD.
[01:36] <aliendude3500> Dr_Willis, "File reading failed:
[01:36] <aliendude3500> VLC could not read the file.
[01:36] <aliendude3500> "
[01:36] <brophat> Dr_Willis i can't even find it on flash
[01:36] <rww> blakkheim: telling new users to use vim ends with lots and lots of "how do I close this stupid editor" questions ;P
[01:37] <david16> I guess I am lucky... My dvds play so far
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> brophat:  i reopartiobn my flash drives and delete the u3 stuff
[01:37] <blakkheim> rww: at least i didn't say ed
[01:37] <rww> blakkheim: hehe :)
[01:37] <bankix> aliendude: You could buy the LinDVD player software, this will play your video DVDs. Costs around 30 Euros.
[01:37] <brophat> ok I am on a mac i guess i use disk utility?
[01:37]  * Dr_Willis wonders if LinDVD would even do it.
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> brophat:  no idea. My Mac is a large doorstop
[01:37] <Matthew11> feedmecereal: search some gamil checker in the software center
[01:38] <brophat> yeah bwahahaa
[01:38] <brophat> ok
[01:38] <aliendude3500> I don't know why I should _need_ to pay for software if I have a DVD drive... this is BS. :(
[01:38] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[01:38] <bankix> aliendude: There are possibillities to break the copy protection, but this is prohbited in most countries.
[01:38] <feedmecereal> Mattell: I think I tried them all but none of them seem to have a beep option.
[01:38] <kari> aliendude3500: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVD::Rip
[01:38] <bankix> aliendude3500: Thank the film studios, they're the problem.
[01:39] <bankix> aliendude3500: They encrypt the contents using CSS.
[01:39] <bankix> aliendude3500: So you need a DVD playing software which is capable of decrypting.
[01:39] <aliendude3500> Installing DVD::Rip right now...
[01:39] <darthanubis> allenwhat is the problem, trying tol play an encrytped dvd?
[01:39] <david16> aliendude3500, people are worried about being sued or arrested....  You'll probably only get "hints"
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> aliendude3500:  do a total boycott of dvd/movies/music - that will show them!
[01:39] <bankix> aliendude3500: The only legal way to do this is to buy LinDVD, from Intervideo (they do also WinDVD)
[01:40] <feedmecereal> I tried to get some to execute the command echo -e "\a" on a new email but they don't seem to do that for some reason. Anyone have any idea why?
[01:40]  * Dr_Willis wonders how come 'some' dvds work and others dont. perhaps some have extra tracks of content/pc content goofing things up
[01:40] <jellow> rww: Could you have a look at this to see if i got it right after #ADDED http://pastebin.com/m70e18aee
[01:40] <Akkernight> on ubuntu, when I hold alt and press right click, the desktop properties show or something, the problem is that this also happens in applications like Blender, how do I disable it?
[01:40] <darthanubis> aliendude3500, I can help you
[01:40] <bankix> aliendude3500: BTW: It's all the same with Windows. Without a DVD player software you can't play the DVDs under windows as well.
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> feedmecereal:  thats supposed to make a 'beep' noise?
[01:40] <darthanubis> aliendude3500, PM me
[01:40] <feedmecereal> Dr_Willis: It does for me, try in the terminal.
[01:40] <rww> jellow: nope. put it all on one line, something like GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet splash noapic nolapic" etc.
[01:41] <Matthew11> feedmecereal: If you vant to build a beep in your script, use the "beep" command (install it, if it isn't installed yet)
[01:41] <Billiard> feedmecereal: you could try the beep command in the beep package i think
[01:41] <Matthew11> *want
[01:41] <bankix> Dr_Willis: Because some DVDs aren't encrypted. E.g. "Das fünfte Element" (Fifth Element) is not.
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> feedmecereal:  like the others said. use the beep command.  its more relieable
[01:41] <teachprint> Problem with keyboard -- I'm using a ibm thinkpad t41 laptop, after recent update my keyboard began using  numloc characters instead of regular characters, can anyone help?
[01:41] <feedmecereal> Thanks to both of you, I'll try that.
[01:41] <kari> aliendude3500: you need to lrn2google
[01:41] <kari> aliendude3500: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> bankix:  hes saying that come comercial encrypted dvd's do work.. and some comercial encrypted ones dont.
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> at least i think thats what he said
[01:42] <rww> ubottu: google | kari
[01:42] <kari> i didn't
[01:43] <kari> i told him to do it next time, and then linked him
[01:43] <bankix> Dr_Willis: How did he find out the disk was encrypted? However, if one encrypted disk works, others will do as well.
[01:43] <kari> o wait, am i arguing with a bot?
[01:43] <Matthew11> Hm. I formated a dvd+rw in my desktop computer, and now, my laptop even cant't recognise the disc XD
[01:43] <bankix> kari: Yes, you are ;-)
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> bankix:  ask him.  I dont use dvd's any more
[01:43] <kari> damn
[01:44] <jake614> hi, everyone! id be so thankful if someone could help me, my usb ports are not working
[01:44] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[01:44] <bankix> Dr_Willis: Same with me. I said everything I could legally.
[01:44] <miki> does anyone have a resoultion?
[01:44]  * Dr_Willis guesses that most comercial movie dvd's you buy in the stores are encrypted.
[01:44] <bankix> Dr_Willis: In Germany, it's even prohibited to tell people how to bypass those content protections...
[01:44] <rww> Most commercial DVDs will work fine with libdvdcss. A small minority will not.
[01:44] <kari> on windows, DVD43 is my choise, but i don't know what works on ubuntu
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> bankix:  you bypass them by using a dvd player..  are those legal to sell? :)
[01:45] <jake614> can anyone help me with my usb ports?
[01:45] <Matthew11> jake614: What device what you are trying to connect?
[01:45] <jake614> i have a webcam, a usb flash disk and a mouse
[01:45] <jellow> rww: Like this then http://pastebin.com/m5389d560 , Not sure should add to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" or the *_DEFAULT one
[01:46] <Matthew11> and they are neither work?
[01:46] <jake614> i already tried removing the battery and tried to run from a live cd
[01:46] <jake614> none of them are working now, but i know these devices should work
[01:46] <bankix> Dr_Willis: Hmmm, interesting point, but I don't want to be the one trying out if this way is legal :-)
[01:46] <Matthew11> what is the dmesg last few lines after connecting a device?
[01:46] <feedmecereal> Hi again. I just tried using the beep command with cGmail and that doesn't seem to work. I do have the package beep installed and it does work in the terminal. Any ideas?
[01:47] <jake614> let me do that right away
[01:47] <Billiard> feedmecereal: could try specifing the full path to beep for cGmail maybe?  do any commands run by cGmail work?
[01:48] <Gran_Ger> Hi there! Using Karmic as Live CD, the monitor starts blinking at the login, but not into graphics mode, but in text mode
[01:48] <rww> jellow: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX propagates to all linux lines in Grub. GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX doesn't propagate to recovery lines.
[01:48] <Gran_Ger> I have the same issue at two computers
[01:48] <jake614> Matthew11 it won't let me copy paste
[01:48] <feedmecereal> Billiard: I'll try that, hold on.
[01:48] <rww> jellow: sorry, second one should be GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[01:48] <bankix> Gran_Ger: Which graphics cards?
[01:48] <jake614> Matthew11 here i got
[01:48] <jake614> [  355.592069] usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4
[01:48] <jake614> [  356.000098] usb 2-3: device not accepting address 4, error -62
[01:48] <jake614> [  356.176075] usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 5
[01:48] <jake614> [  356.584738] usb 2-3: device not accepting address 5, error -62
[01:48] <jake614> [  356.584807] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 3
[01:48] <Gran_Ger> the first one, nvidia GEForce 6500
[01:48] <FloodBot4> jake614: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <Gran_Ger> the second one I don't know, I have to recheck
[01:49] <jake614> sorry for flooding
[01:49] <rww> jellow: so yes, that pastebin you just did would work, assuming you don't want those options to be used in recovery mode.
[01:49] <bankix> Gran_Ger: Hm, GeForce 6500 should work for all I know.
[01:49] <Staatsfeind> libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory but the lib is installed. should i do this: http://www.joewein.de/sw/swnotes002.htm
[01:49] <Matthew11> jake614: try another usb port
[01:49] <Staatsfeind> i am on karmic
[01:50] <jellow> rww: thanks, so second one is good as if i mess up i won't have options at boot
[01:50] <jake614> i have tried all 4 of them
[01:50] <rww> jellow: indeed
[01:50] <Gran_Ger> That's true, I was working fine with that computer until 9.04 version
[01:50] <bankix> Gran_Ger:  Is it the same monitor for both computers?
[01:50] <Gran_Ger> No, It's diferent
[01:50] <rww> jellow: so yes, when you have it like you want it, sudo update-grub to apply.
[01:50] <benkillin> so by default the ubuntu 9.04  box I was admining had /bin/sh as a default shell for accounts that should not be logged into like www-data and service acounts like that, so I changed them all to /bin/false. why was it set as default to be a valid shell to login as? even though there was no password set (* was in the passwd hash field) ?
[01:50] <jellow> rww: Many thanks for your help! xD
[01:50] <Gran_Ger> And is the AMD-64 version
[01:50] <feedmecereal> Billiard: no commands work with cGmail and specifying the full path doesn't seem to work either. I guess I'll try another program. Thanks.
[01:50] <bankix> Gran_Ger: I hoped for an easy solution :-)
[01:50] <DexterP17> How can i get facebook to appear on empathy
[01:50] <Matthew11> jake614: is the usb worked before?
[01:51] <jake614> just so you know, i had jaunty installed after it was released and everything worked smoothly, then updated to karmic and still everything was working just fine
[01:51] <jake614> like a month ago, after an update they stopped working
[01:51] <cornbreadly_> i dont think facebook can work with empathy
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> bankix:  it seems LEGAL copies of that movie (blueray) have problems playing in legal players. :) isetn that nice...
[01:51] <jake614> then i downgraded to jaunty again b/c of sound issues
[01:51] <adubzzz> how can i find the ntp servers of a given network
[01:52] <jake614> yes, everything worked just fine before
[01:52] <bankix> Gran_Ger: Have a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log at the command line. The last lines should tell you what's going wrong with the graphic mode.
[01:52] <bankix> Gran_Ger: Oh, you do see the splash animation during the boot?
[01:52] <Matthew11> jake614: Is there any operating system installed, that can handle the devices?
[01:53] <jake614> i only have jaunty installed
[01:53] <bankix> Dr_Willis: Really nice! So nice, that I'll not risk my money facing those problems -- and just ignore everything "blu" :-)
[01:53] <Gran_Ger> Ok. For the AMD-64 computer with the GE-Force card, at live cd works fine
[01:53] <Gran_Ger> the instalation was the problem
[01:53] <detrix> bankix: Hey, I got the full install mem stick to boot.  thanks for your help.
[01:53] <jake614> i dont think its the devices though, all of them worked before and none is working now, and ive tried in all ports
[01:54] <Matthew11> jake614: Have you got any other liveCD?
[01:54] <bankix> detrix: Ŵhat was the problem if I may ask?
[01:54] <jake614> the mouse will even blink
[01:54] <JohnTeddy> How can I tell what version of alsa I'm running right now?
[01:54] <zeta-> Is it possible to replicate my Karmic installation onto a new partition I've created on a 2nd drive?
[01:54] <zeta-> Just copy preserving permissions? I can alter the boot menu myself.
[01:54] <JohnTeddy> meaning currently running in my kernel, not installed package
[01:54] <bankix> Gran_Ger: Ah, if you use the live system, everything is fine, but if you boot your installed system, the graphics mode won't come up?
[01:54] <jake614> Matthew11 no, i dont... is there something else i can try?
[01:54] <Staatsfeind> nobody an idea?
[01:55] <detrix> bankix: pretty much a bios setting.  there is a boot priority, and then a setting for which drive is the first drive.
[01:55] <Matthew11> jake614: My soundcard also deffected by one moment to the secound. So i want to sure if it isn't a hardware problem
[01:55] <Staatsfeind> libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory what shall i do if the lib IS installed
[01:55] <bankix> detrix: That easy? Great!
[01:55] <detrix> bankix: it was the latter option that was needed. to set the san cruzer to be the 1st drive
[01:55] <rww> Staatsfeind: are you using 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[01:55] <toastedmilk> I'm trying to connect  to the internet on a different computer, but sudo lshw -C netowrk is saying that wlan0 is disabled.  How can I fix this?
[01:55] <Staatsfeind> 64bit
[01:56] <rww> Staatsfeind: is the program you're trying to run 32-bit?
[01:56] <Gran_Ger> that's true into that computer.
[01:56] <jake614> Matthew11 everything worked perfectly on this laptop out of the box when i installed jaunty... lost sound with karmic, but usb was still working fine
[01:56] <Gran_Ger> I had to make the installation without the live mode
[01:56] <bankix> Gran_Ger: OK. And you did install the proprietary Nvidia driver, right?
[01:56] <Staatsfeind> rww i am not 100% sure. PTC.PRO.ENGINEER.WILDFIRE.v3.0.M080.LINUX
[01:56] <Gran_Ger> but directly to the Installation opcion
[01:56] <detrix> bankix:  and that the removable media had higher priority.  ;)
[01:56] <jake614> Matthew11: sound is back now i put jaunty back, but usb is not
[01:56] <teachprint>  Problem with keyboard -- I'm using an ibm thinkpad t41 laptop, after recent update my keyboard began using  numloc characters instead of regular characters, can anyone help?
[01:56] <Gran_Ger> Yep bankix
[01:57] <rww> Staatsfeind: if it is, you probably need to install the "ia32-libs" package
[01:57] <Gran_Ger> Now, that computer is working, but sometimes freezes
[01:57] <bankix> Gran_Ger: Let me guess, there was a kernel update before your problems?
[01:57] <Gran_Ger> nop, bankix
[01:57] <Staatsfeind> rww: i have already installed this for poweriso
[01:57] <Talon_> I was here a couple days ago, asking about ram usage inside ubuntu 9.10, I had 1gb and tried running a virtual machine (windows xp) with virtual box. 83% of my memory was used.
[01:57] <bankix> Gran_Ger: OK, check with "lsmod" if the nvidia module is loaded.
[01:57] <Matthew11> jake614: Try the karmic again (as a live cd). If it works, there is an unoffical upgrade that makes the sound much better
[01:58] <bankix> Gran_Ger: If not, try to load it manually.
[01:58] <Staatsfeind> rww: should i do this: http://www.joewein.de/sw/swnotes002.htm
[01:58] <Staatsfeind> rww: dont know what was meant with linux 7
[01:58] <bankix> Gran_Ger: Via "modprobe nvidia".
[01:58] <Matthew11> jake614: you experienced a cracking noise dont you?
[01:58] <opok> sa polacy ?
[01:58] <toastedmilk> I'm trying to connect  to the internet on a different computer, but sudo lshw -C netowrk is saying that wlan0 is disabled.  How can I fix this?
[01:58] <Talon_> using system monitor and my new machine I built to accomidate this, I now have 8gb of ram, and it's still using it ALL! gnomes system monitor shows 16% used by programs and 83% as cache
[01:58] <jake614> Matthew11: no, sound was completely gone
[01:59] <Gran_Ger> bankix, with that computer, the only problem I have, and never did before It's the freeze
[01:59] <blakkheim> Talon_: i don't think you understand how ram works in linux
[01:59] <karpus> deluge 1.2 on ubuntu 9.10 is using up to 80-90% of my cpu while downloading torrents, is there any way to fix that? :\
[01:59] <jake614> Matthew11: i'd rather keep jaunty, sound is not an issue anymore, but i'd like to make usb devices work
[02:00] <Matthew11> jake614: Well i don't have any further idea right now
[02:00] <blakkheim> Talon_: free -m | grep buffers
[02:00] <Talon_> so does cache matter? 16+83 = 99, i assumed 99% of my ram is in use
[02:00] <Matthew11> Maybe someone else can help you
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> Talon_:  so its used as cache.. that how its supposed to work
[02:00] <jake614> Matthew11:  okay, thanks for your time!
[02:00] <bankix> Gran_Ger: Hm? When does the computer freeze? I think it's blinking some times?
[02:00] <Matthew11> your welcome
[02:01] <cornbreadly_> anyone know offhand how I can pause music in banshee, to listen to some sound from a youtube video in chrome? 9.10?
[02:01] <jake614> can anyone else help with usb ports?
[02:01] <Gran_Ger> the blinking problem was after the installation, But I fix it making a Direct installation, and making at the end the activation of the drivers
[02:01] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[02:01] <cornbreadly_> what ius the usb issue?
[02:01] <Talon_> blakkheim: free -m | grep buffers shows used: 1332, Free: 6671
[02:02] <Gran_Ger> The freezes, that is the actual problem is trying to see some videos
[02:02] <blakkheim> Talon_: so there's your actual usage
[02:02] <jake614> cornbreadly_: my usb devices will not work
[02:02] <bankix> Gran_Ger: Sorry, I'm puzzeled now. What is your problem?
[02:02] <rww> Staatsfeind: hmm, weird, I can't find that specific .so in the repositories. I'm out of ideas, sorry :(
[02:02] <Gran_Ger> the freezes for that computer, the blinking for the another computer
[02:02] <cornbreadly_> ok  have you run lsusb?
[02:02] <jake614> cornbreadly_: ive tried removing the laptop battery and also tried running them from a livecd, to no avail
[02:02] <Staatsfeind> rww: ok, ty
[02:03] <bankix> Gran_Ger: When exactly does the computer freeze? Is it reproducable?
[02:03] <Gran_Ger> bankix, let me see.
[02:03] <jake614> cornbreadly_: i just did, what should i look for?
[02:03] <cornbreadly_> does it look like anything you have plugged in is showing?
[02:03] <Talon_> so what is "cached" then in the system monitor?
[02:04] <zhuzhixin> hello all, quick question. I just now download a fiction with stk extension, but i don't know howto open it. Can someone give me a suggestion.
[02:04] <cornbreadly_> here is an example
[02:04] <cornbreadly_> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/usb-guide.xml
[02:04] <kuja605> can anyone point me to the Ubuntu room for general chat?
[02:04] <jake614> thank you
[02:04] <bankix> Talon_: Nothing is cached in the system monitor, your RAM is used as disk cache. That's all.
[02:04] <boss_mc> kuja605: #ubuntu-ot
[02:05] <rww> kuja605, boss_mc: #ubuntu-offtopic, not -ot
[02:05] <kuja605> brilliant, cheers :D
[02:05] <jake614> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:05] <jake614> this is what i get
[02:05] <boss_mc> kuja605: apologies, i was confused by !ot
[02:05] <zeta-> Staatsfeind: do you get the error during boot? could be that /usr is not mounted at that point (if you have separate partitions)
[02:05] <bankix> jake614: Remove the device in question. Call "lsusb". Then connect the device, run "lsusb" again. Find the new line and post this.
[02:05] <adubzzz> how can i find the ntp server of a given network
[02:06] <Talon_> so i shouldnt lose any performance if say i started a game?
[02:06] <adubzzz> that i am currenlty on
[02:06] <Talon_> the "cached" ram gets written to disc to accomidate the program that needs ram?
[02:06] <kuja605> oh and could anyone point me to somewhere that easily explains the linux filesystem for someone whos pretty new to it?
[02:06] <bankix> Talon_: The cache will _improve_ your system performance. Nothing to worry about.
[02:07] <bankix> Talon_: Most is _read_ cache, not write cache, so the content gets just freed and overwritten when needed.
[02:07] <jake614> bankix: just did that, the lines are the exactly the same
[02:07] <bankix> jake: So, regardless if the usb device is connected or not, lsusb shows the same?
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> adubzzz:  you could nmap scan the network
[02:08] <bankix> jake614: Just to get this point sure.
[02:08] <jake614> bankix: yes thats right
[02:09] <bankix> jake614: Are there other devices listed than "Linux Foundation" root hubs?
[02:09] <jake614> bankix: no, i got two linux foundation 1.1 and one 2.0
[02:09] <Talon_> so what is swap space then, it's never used, least it hasnt been since system monitor's been monitoring it
[02:10] <adubzzz> what is the linux command to display current date and time
[02:10] <bankix> jake614: Not good. This means your USB device doesn't communicate as it should. Which kind of device is it?
[02:11] <adubzzz> nvm its date
[02:11] <adubzzz> lol
[02:11] <rww> adubzzz: date
[02:11] <rww> :)
[02:11] <jake614> bankix: right now i have a webcam plugged in, but my mouse, usb flash, and cellphone dont respond either
[02:11] <jake614> and all of them worked in the past
[02:11] <bankix> Talon_: Swap space is disk space (usually a partition on your disk) used as RAM extension, for the case you have more data than physical RAM. Of course darn slow, so normally unused.
[02:12] <bankix> jake: Hm. Maybe the USB stack is stuck. At least keyboard, camera, etc. should show up via lsusb when they're connected.
[02:12] <jake614> bankix: my mouse will blink sometimes, but it wont work, my usb flash does not blink anymore
[02:12] <MauritianGuy> elo people
[02:12] <jeffmr> hi
[02:13] <jake614> i have tried all my ports, i have 4
[02:13] <bankix> jake614: OK, does that machine have PS/2 ports for keyboard/mouse and you have a ps/2 mouse/keyboard somewhere in your trashbin?
[02:13] <MauritianGuy> i got a lil issue prior to trying to install a beta driver i got further than before but now its telling me that i need to quit X server and someting like that i got a log file with the three errors
[02:13] <zeta-> Talon_: you have 8GB ram! try loading a few large databases if you want it to swap out to disk.
[02:14] <jake614> bankix: no
[02:14] <bankix> jake614: Hm, how did you enter "lsusb" then? Or is your USB keyboard working?
[02:15] <jake614> bankix: my keyboard is built in, this is a laptop
[02:15] <MauritianGuy> http://pastebin.ca/1763534
[02:15] <Droll_Trollerson> o/ s0n1c800m
[02:15] <bankix> jake: Ah. Okay.
[02:15] <s0n1c800m> \o Droll_Trollerson
[02:15] <Real_Ubot> If I move a file from one directory to another, will the digits on my hard drive be moved too or will only some kind of index be updated?
[02:15] <ralphv2> o/ Droll_Trollerson
[02:15] <bankix> jake614: I would suggest to reboot with _all_ USB devices disconnected first.
[02:16] <Droll_Trollerson> \o ralphv2
[02:16] <aboyd> hi everyone, I have a bit of a problem, and if anyone can help, that would be great. So, I have ubuntu installed on an external hard drive, and my  cousin unplugged it while it was running. I fixed the install and it now loads again, but when I click on any of the folders to access the file system, it shows that it is opening, but it never loads. ANy thoughts?
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> Real_Ubot:  from what i gather just a  few bits get changed. :)  so they appear in teh other place
[02:16] <bankix> jake614: Then connect the external keyboard and check if it shows up in "lsusb".
[02:16] <jake614> bankix: i have tried that several times
[02:16] <Droll_Trollerson> aboyd: First, kill your cousin.
[02:16] <jake614> bankix: and i dont have an external keyboard, what i have is an external mouse
[02:16] <aboyd> haha i wish I could
[02:17] <Droll_Trollerson> aboyd:  You /can!/
[02:17] <bankix> jake614: Okay, then start with the  mouse.
[02:17] <MauritianGuy> i was also wondering if you guys could help me modify the permission so i can edit a log file in etc//file.log so that i can use an application as my default user
[02:17] <jake614> bankix: ok, shall try
[02:17] <Droll_Trollerson> aboyd:  Set your mind to it.
[02:17] <ralphv2> I'm the only one here using Xircon
[02:17] <bankix> jake614: When connected solely, it should really show up in your lsusb list.
[02:17] <zenlunatic> MauritianGuy: why did you want to edit log files?
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> MauritianGuy:  log files in /etc/ ? thats odd.. normally they are in /var/log/*
[02:17] <Real_Ubot> Dr_Willis: I mean if I have a file containging like "secret" data and moves it to another folder. Then I remove it using shred or wipe. Will it still be able to get the data from the place the file once was located?
[02:18] <grkblood13> how do you allow remote desktop access from the cli?
[02:18] <bankix> jake614: If it doesn't, there is either a hardware problem with the mouse or some relly weired problem with the USB/mainboard chipset.
[02:18] <aboyd> droll_trollerson: no then I would be killed... anyway...
[02:18] <Dr_Willis> Real_Ubot:  shred/wipe overwrite the file several times    copy it.. then shred it. i guess.
[02:18] <bankix> Gran_Ger: Still there?
[02:18] <zenlunatic> grkblood13: usually usnig ssh
[02:19] <Gran_Ger> yep bankix. I'm tryin to duplicate the freeze, but not lucky
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> grkblood13:  local lan? over teh internet? or how exactly? You can ssh in , and start a vncserver session and get a 'new' desktop  you can connect to
[02:19] <grkblood13> local Dr_Willis
[02:19] <bankix> Gran_Ger: Did you remember the last freeze, when it happended? Could you describe the circumstances a bit?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> grkblood13:  vnc can do more then 'share the current' desktop. Its a very flexiable tool
[02:19] <FiReSTaRT> Guys, I'm trying to get my media box set up, and it's mostly working. Now these instructions indicate that I have to have my xbmc session "auth'd properly" to be able to suspend/resume with the remote.. What does that mean and how do i do it?
[02:19] <FiReSTaRT> http://www.excentral.org/archives/2009/11/08/enabling-suspendresume-with-xbmc-in-ubuntu-9-10
[02:19] <FiReSTaRT> As of 9.11 alpha 2, XBMC uses ConsoleKit in the Karmic packages so you need to make sure your session gets auth’d properly or you’ll end up with permission denied messages in the xbmc logs when it tries to suspend.
[02:19] <s0n1c800m> aboyd: you wouldn't have to worry about the hd, tho
[02:19] <MauritianGuy> Dr_Willis and Zenlunatic i am trying to run an application but when i went to the website its telling me to edit a file so that i can use it otherwise i will have to run it as sudo
[02:19] <FloodBot4> FiReSTaRT: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:19] <grkblood13> so i have to install vncserver?
[02:20] <zenlunatic> MauritianGuy: you
[02:20] <MauritianGuy> but i tried to run the file as sudo but i am still getting errory guess
[02:20] <zenlunatic> MauritianGuy: you arent making sense
[02:20] <MauritianGuy> lol
[02:20] <Droll_Trollerson> Dr_Willis:  huh? You jump the good ship Puppy Linux?
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> MauritianGuy:   i doubt if it wants you to edit a LOG file.. what file is it wanting you to mess with?   You can just alter the file with root permissions ionce and be done with it i imagine
[02:20] <MauritianGuy> can i pm u zenlunatic
[02:20] <zenlunatic> yea sure
[02:20] <Dr_Willis> Droll_Trollerson:  puppy sort of sunk for me.  I only used it in special cases anyway
[02:21] <Droll_Trollerson> Dr_Willis:  Ah. To each his/her own, I guess.
[02:21] <aboyd> s0n1c800m: true, but I prefer him alive... he can come in handy... anyway, any real help to fix this stupid thing would be great...
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> Droll_Trollerson:  its more of a rubber dingy with lots of patches/glue/stikytaps.
[02:21] <ralphv2> I like puppy, still, despite usually being in arch
[02:21] <zeta-> Real_Ubot: move will leave the file in the same location on disk unless you move between partitions.
[02:21] <jazz> #ubuntu-classroom
[02:21] <MauritianGuy> Dr_Willis,  I am not sure i know how to edit the file as root
[02:21] <Droll_Trollerson> Dr_Willis:  No lie there.
[02:21] <karpus> Cache Size (16 KiB blocks) in Deluge, what would a good value be for it? in windows and utorrent I used 2048 mb as my cache size (got 6 gb ram), but I don't even know in what unit Deluge's cache size should be in (kb?)
[02:21] <jazz> grr sorry  i cant get this to open lol
[02:22] <ralphv2> run sudo geany or sudo some other editor
[02:22] <Droll_Trollerson> Dr_Willis:  Of course talking like that in #puppylinux will earn you a PERMA-IGGY
[02:22] <Dr_Willis> MauritianGuy:  sudo EDITOR /path/to/file    if you dont even know thse linux basics.. it might be a good idea to spend an hr reading some linux/ubuntu guides befor messing with programs/docs that tell you to alter some system files that you have no idea what they do.
[02:22] <Johnny1> how to I install star wars empire at war forces of corruption on ubuntu 9.10?
[02:22] <jazz>  /join #ubuntu-classroom
[02:22] <MauritianGuy> # User to setid to (should be your normal user)
[02:22] <MauritianGuy> #suiduser=your_user_here
[02:22] <jazz> anyone got the link?
[02:22] <Droll_Trollerson> LULZ
[02:23] <jazz> for user day?
[02:23] <MauritianGuy> i am suppose to edit that line
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> Droll_Trollerson:  they all know its just scripts with exceptions for special cases coded in on top of scripts and other band aid fix's.. :)
[02:23] <MauritianGuy> but i can only view the file
[02:23] <zenlunatic> sudo -s
[02:23] <ralphv2> test
[02:23] <Johnny1> how to I install star wars empire at war forces of corruption on ubuntu 9.10?
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> MauritianGuy:  'sudo EDITORYOULIKE /path/to/file'
[02:23] <Billiard> Johnny1: using wine
[02:23] <Droll_Trollerson> Dr_Willis:  YEA, BUTT ITZ IN TEH TOP TEN ON DISTOWACH!
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | Johnny1
[02:24] <MauritianGuy> thanks Dr_Willis  and zenlunatic
[02:24] <GrayGnome> Does Karmic have a package for Python Yardis bindings?
[02:24] <MauritianGuy> can you goys help me with my driver issue as well i paste a pastebin link before
[02:24] <MauritianGuy> i'll paste it again
[02:24] <MauritianGuy> http://pastebin.ca/1763534
[02:25] <Droll_Trollerson> "goys?"
[02:25] <Droll_Trollerson> As in "goyum?"
[02:25] <bankix> Droll_Trollerson: s/o/a/g :-D
[02:25] <rww> Droll_Trollerson: I'm assuming as in "I can't spell guys" ;P
[02:25] <MauritianGuy> i tried to install 190.53 and it got stuck with an error i checked the file based on the error etc..
[02:26] <macbuntu11> Hey guys, i'm running ubuntu 9.10 on my macbook 2,1 and the graphics on my GMA 950  are terrible compared to when I use it in mac or windows. (i tri-boot) is there any way to update the driver?
[02:26] <jazz> join #ununtu-classroom
[02:26] <Droll_Trollerson> Man, I sure wish we had 1,224 users logged in on #puppylinux.
[02:26] <Jeeves_Moss> hey guys, I killed my GRUB after installing Windows.  How do I recover it?
[02:26] <rww> jazz: you're missing a slash and misspelled "ubuntu"
[02:27] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[02:27] <Droll_Trollerson> I wish some of you...say 100 or so, would join #puppylinux just to drive the userlist off the rails.
[02:27] <joh6nn> Jeeves_Moss: do you know if it was Grub, or Grub2?
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> Droll_Trollerson:  why? they would just be asking the same 5 questions over and ober and over..
[02:27]  * AllYourBases are belong to puppylinux?
[02:27] <bankix> Jeeves_Moss: With a live ubuntu cd/usb-stick
[02:27] <rww> ubottu: ot
[02:27] <Droll_Trollerson> Dr_Willis:  They'd get the same canned answer: Have you bothered to RTFM?
[02:27] <rww> jazz: there you go :)
[02:27] <Billiard> MauritianGuy: any reason you dont use the nvidia drivers from the package manager?
[02:27] <jake614> bankix, you around?
[02:28] <Jeeves_Moss> joh6nn:  I'm not sure,  it's from Ubuntu 9.10, so I'm guessing GRUB 2.  I follwed the steps to "recover" it, and they went through, but when I reboot, I get stuck @ the grubmenu with a prompt
[02:28] <bankix> jake614: Jepp
[02:28] <brophat> why doesn't my mac allow me to earse the U# sytem on my flash drive?
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> Droll_Trollerson:  yep.. the docs that often vanish.. or are 4+ yrs old..   or are for puppy 2.0 ... Ill pass.
[02:28] <bankix> jake614: Waiting for your input :-)
[02:28] <uninverted> Anybody know how to downgrade xorg? The latest version borked my driver.
[02:28] <MauritianGuy> Billiard,  its not working
[02:28] <joh6nn> Jeeves_Moss: ah, then yeah, it's grub 2.  in which case, i don't know enough to be of any help, unfortunately :(
[02:28] <jake614> hhehe thanks... but nope, still not listed
[02:28] <jake614> im running on a livecd again and nothing
[02:28] <Billiard> !ot | brophat
[02:28] <Droll_Trollerson> Dr_Willis:  heh...amen! I bailed for Arch Linux in August 2008.
[02:28] <Jeeves_Moss> joh6nn:  is that common for GRUB2?
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> uninverted:   You might want to try upgrading xorg depending on what dirvers you are messing with
[02:29] <MauritianGuy> when i try to use 3D software or games for example its crashing
[02:29] <bankix> jake614: "nothing"?
[02:29] <brophat> ubottu this is an ubuntu topic because i want to put UNR on my flash drive get it?
[02:29] <Billiard> !doesntwork | MauritianGuy
[02:29] <ralphv2> Jeeves_Moss.  Install ubuntu 9.04 to get the old grub.  Then install 9.10 without installing grub
[02:29] <zomfgcrazy> okay so I had a working dualboot of WinXP and Ubuntu goin, but the ubuntu install was a logical partition, so i deleted sda2 (the partition it was inside, i guess?) and now I rebooted and i get an error GRUB loading.  Error: no such partition grub rescue> _...  ..i never touched the windows install.. any ideas why it doesn't just boot into windows now and/or how i can fix it? if i boot from the ubuntu live cd it shows the wind
[02:29] <uninverted> Dr_Willis: The newest version doesn't work with it (the nvidia driver)
[02:29] <Dr_Willis> brophat:  dont argue with the bot.. it just annoys the bot. :)
[02:29] <maco> brophat: ubottu is a bot
[02:29] <jake614> bankix: i still get the same lines
[02:29] <brophat> oh ok hahaha
[02:30] <bankix> jake614: Ah. Which device did you try to connect?
[02:30] <jake614> bankix: my mouse
[02:30] <Billiard> brophat: use a ubuntu live cd to format your flash drive maybe?
[02:30] <bankix> jake614: Ok, try a USB stick then (because it doesn't need much power).
[02:31] <bankix> jake614: Does this show up using lsusb?
[02:31] <jake614> bankix: nope, nothing shows up, usb flash is not working either
[02:31] <brophat> yeah just weird how the M *** C can't do it
[02:31] <PeterT> wow, channel has quite a few people
[02:32] <MauritianGuy> well simple desktop 3D effects is basically not loading and i have to choose normal basic desktop effect
[02:32] <bankix> jake614: Very strange. And you did try not only one of your ports, but all? One on the right, one on the left, one at the back of the notebook (if there are any)?
[02:32] <Billiard> MauritianGuy: this is when the drivers are installed and enabled?
[02:32] <Talon_> how do I share my wireless internet (wlan0) with computers on a wired network (eth0)
[02:32] <bankix> jake614: Just to prevent a dead usb socket.
[02:32] <MauritianGuy> i got a XFX 9800 GTX which should handle this sort of #D graphic very well
[02:33] <jake614> bankix: yes, i did try, i have 4, apparently one of them is actually dead, but yes, i did
[02:33] <daftykins> Talon_: bridge-utils package will be your starting point
[02:33] <Real_Ubot> zeta-: Ok, then only some kind of index willl be changed?
[02:33] <Talon_> so find that in synaptic package manager?
[02:33] <MauritianGuy> so ur telling me the driver was working well then
[02:33] <bankix> jake614: Hm. Did you try windows or another linux live CD? Does USB work there?
[02:33] <ahabman> Nvidia question - Can I programatically replicate the Nvidia X Server Settings' "Apply" button? I have 2 xorg.conf files that I want to swap out, in order to add a 2nd screen - but Not Log Out.
[02:33] <Billiard> !who | MauritianGuy
[02:34] <MauritianGuy> there are 2 drivers one is 173 one is 185
[02:34] <Talon_> daftykins, downloaded and installed
[02:34] <zomfgcrazy> !tab
[02:34] <Billiard> MauritianGuy: did you try the 185 driver? and how did you install it?
[02:34] <FiReSTaRT> guys if a part of the instructions says to make sure that my session gets "auth'd properly" so a certain package can suspend/resume the comp, how do i go about it?
[02:35] <MauritianGuy> Billiard,  i uninstall reboot and instell 185, id did the same for 173
[02:35] <jake614> bankix: i dont have windows anymore
[02:35] <daftykins> Talon_: yeah the rest i don't know myself ;) hit up google for a bridge-utils guide.
[02:35] <Billiard> MauritianGuy: how did you install 185?
[02:35] <daftykins> Billiard: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-185
[02:35] <lucascastro>  /?
[02:35] <zeta-> Real_Ubot: yes, just the directory that points to the file
[02:35] <Billiard> daftykins: that doesnt enable the driver
[02:35] <bankix> jake614: And a different live linux somewhere? I would check if it's a general problem or only related to ubuntu/your ubuntu version.
[02:35] <daftykins> Billiard: then after run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[02:36] <Billiard> daftykins: is that what MauritianGuy did?
[02:36] <daftykins> Billiard: i dunno sorry, i just assumed you were asking how to use it.
[02:36] <bankix> jake614: Did you check the BIOS settings if you did disable something related to USB perhaps? Just guessing...
[02:36] <Billiard> daftykins: no i was asking which method he used
[02:36] <daftykins> ah ok sorry.
[02:36] <oasis> ok
[02:36] <MauritianGuy> i uses systems>administration>Hardware Drivers and shoose 185
[02:37] <MauritianGuy> Billiard,  i uses systems>administration>Hardware Drivers and shoose 185
[02:37] <jake614> bankix: my guess is this related to this version since it previously worked on jaunty, karmic, and windows vista... as for bios, how do i do that?
[02:37] <lucascastro>  /help
[02:37] <Billiard> MauritianGuy: ok, and hardware drivers had shown the driver as enabled?
[02:37] <arastoo> hi
[02:37] <oasis> no sound in ubuntu help?
[02:37] <MauritianGuy> yep
[02:37] <Trek> !help | lucascastro
[02:37] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[02:37] <bankix> jake614: Ah, that's new information. It did work before.
[02:37] <zomfgcrazy> I had a working dualboot of WinXP and Ubuntu goin, but the ubuntu install was a logical partition, so i deleted sda2 (the partition it was inside, i guess?) and now I rebooted and i get an error GRUB loading.  Error: no such partition grub rescue> _...  ..i never touched the windows install.. any ideas why it doesn't just boot into windows now and/or how i can fix it? if i boot from the ubuntu live cd it shows the windows inst
[02:38] <jake614> bankix: i'm sorry, i didnt mention? plz excuse me
[02:38] <bankix> jake: When booting Jaunty live, does the usb stick work?
[02:38] <arastoo> when i wnat to boot sys i cant boot and i see grub error >> file not found and grub rescue how can i do
[02:38] <arastoo> ?
[02:38] <Billiard> MauritianGuy: i would run the appearance dialog from the terminal and look at the errors you get when you try to enable the special effects, after installing the 185 drivers
[02:38] <arastoo> want*
[02:38] <Droll_Trollerson> Dr_Willis:  Stay well. Good seeing you again.
[02:38] <Droll_Trollerson> Dr_Willis:  alienjeff here quasi-incognito
[02:38] <joh6nn> zomfgcrazy: it doesn't just boot to windows because there's some stuff that happens during install, that you didn't count on
[02:39] <release> anyone know why nickserv doesnt work in irssi ?
[02:39] <MauritianGuy> Billiard,  how would i do that
[02:39] <blakkheim> release: it does
[02:39] <oasis> what
[02:39] <release> okay
[02:39] <jake614> bankix: no, not anymore...this laptop came with vista and everything worked (so to say, i really hated vista), then installed jaunty
[02:39] <release> I'm having trouble. I'm escaping nickserv with slash but get no command
[02:39] <MauritianGuy> do i have to remove the Xserver as well Billiard
[02:39] <rww> release: /msg nickserv, not /nickserv
[02:40] <bankix> jake614: Sorry, you see me helpless...
[02:40] <Liked> can anyone help me?
[02:40] <Billiard> MauritianGuy: no? idk what you mean
[02:40] <Liked> im trying to set up a VPS in ubuntu
[02:40] <Liked> im a begginer
[02:40] <Billiard> MauritianGuy: one sec, let me find the command for the appearance dialog
[02:40] <Liked> so i'm trying to start
[02:40] <release> hm
[02:40] <Talon_> hah that was easy, i just did properties on eth0 in networkmanager applet.. i edited eth0 and in ipv4 settings i made it shared to other computers
[02:40] <Liked> can anyone help?
[02:40] <zomfgcrazy> joh6nn, could you please elaborate? =\
[02:41] <bankix> jake614: When usb devices don't show up at all, it's a very basic problem. I thought of not enough power as one reason, that's why I asked to disconnect everything and reconnect something with low power first.
[02:41] <MauritianGuy> thanks Billiard
[02:41] <jellow> Liked: Look at ubuntu community Documentaion , And ask us if or when you hit any problems
[02:41] <jellow> !vps | Liked
[02:41] <jellow> !vpn | Liked
[02:42] <jake614> bankix: that's ok, thank you for trying to help... apparently this is related to my hardware, someone else  kindly gave me this link just a sec ago: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1004166.html
[02:42] <jake614> bankix: i do not now how to update tho
[02:43] <bankix> Lemme have a look...
[02:43] <Billiard> MauritianGuy: you currently have 185 installed? if so, run "gnome-appearance-properties" from a terminal, and attempt to enable the visual effects, then pastebin the errors it gives you in the terminal
[02:43] <MauritianGuy> i just reactivated 185
[02:44] <bankix> jake614: You mean how to update your BIOS?
[02:44] <paragonc> i have an iso i made on my mac - but when i mount it under ubuntu - i dont see any data
[02:44] <daftykins> jake614: hmm says to update BIOS. i wouldn't really say to run into doing that, but could be worth looking up what BIOS your laptop has and what the latest is on your laptop make's website
[02:44] <jake614> bankix: yes
[02:44] <jellow> Liked: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNServer
[02:44] <Billiard> paragonc: how are you mounting it?
[02:45] <jake614> daftykins: how do i do that? looking up bios and the such?
[02:45] <paragonc> sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 my.iso /media/windows
[02:45] <bankix> jake614: This is a dangerous procedure and for most laptops you'll need DOS or Windows to do the update.
[02:45] <paragonc> trying to get access to some old file data - and its driving me insane
[02:46] <jake614> bankix: i see.. is there a way to check on bios settings?
[02:46] <bankix> jake614: You'll have to ask your vendor how to do this for you laptop. You should find this informations where you'll find the new BIOS versions.
[02:46] <Billiard> paragonc: try removing the -t iso9660 part, and the /media/windows directory is empty after mounting you say?
[02:46] <paragonc> ya
[02:46] <paragonc> so sudo mount -o loop my.iso /media/windows
[02:46] <paragonc> ?
[02:46] <Billiard> paragonc: yeah
[02:46] <bankix> jake614: Just have a look at everything in your BIOS referencing "USB". USB should be enabled, USB 2.0 as well, and USB Legacy Support should be enabled.
[02:46] <randy_> any gamers here?
[02:47] <MauritianGuy> i will reboot and try the appearence properties Billiard
[02:47] <Billiard> MauritianGuy: ok
[02:47] <Siria_Calv> Where can I get a free video converter capable of converting videos to .asf from .avi and .flv?
[02:47] <MauritianGuy> brb
[02:47] <jake614> i do not now how to look at that though
[02:47] <bankix> jake614: Depending on your BIOS, you wiill see more or less USB related menu points. Difficult to point you the way more precise.
[02:47] <Billiard> randy_: probably there are 12xx people here, just ask your question
[02:47] <randy_> i did
[02:47] <jake614> i'm sorry, i'm not that computer savvy
[02:48] <jake614> where is the bios menu?
[02:48] <daftykins> jake614: look up the model on the manufacturer webby to start
[02:48] <Billiard> randy_: i dont see it
[02:48] <randy_> any gamers here
[02:48] <Billiard> randy_: yes
[02:48] <jake614> i mean, where do i " enable" usb options?
[02:48] <blakkheim> Siria_Calv: ffmpeg
[02:48] <randy_> well are there?
[02:48] <paragonc> that did it
[02:48] <paragonc> thanks
[02:48] <Billiard> randy_: yes there are gamers here
[02:49] <jolaren> When pressing keys from my remote I get no response in irw! What can I do?
[02:49] <randy_> anybody have a thought about win 7?
[02:49] <bankix> jake614: when booting your computer, pressing DEL or F2 key will enter your BIOS setup.
[02:49] <jake614> oh, ok!
[02:49] <ganymede> and out come the offtopic warnings
[02:49] <Siria_Calv> blakkheim: Where do I get the codec needed and how do I get it to show up in the ffmpeg frontend WinFF?
[02:49] <jake614> i shall try that now, thank you so much
[02:49] <Billiard> paragonc: np
[02:49] <rww> randy_: This channel is for Ubuntu support. For discussion of Windows, please /join ##windows
[02:50] <blakkheim> Siria_Calv: the codec is probably in ubuntu-restricted-extras, and just use ffmpeg from the commandline. the gui is unneeded
[02:50] <randy_> oh i thought it was computers in general sorry
[02:50] <Aly-> Necesito entral al canal de ubuntu en espanol
[02:50] <rww> ubottu: es | Aly-
[02:51] <Aly-> NO se puede, tienes que identificarte dice.
[02:51] <blakkheim> ...
[02:51] <zpertee> does anyone have any good advice on how to do seamless virtualization? want to virtualize xp on ubuntu 9.10
[02:52] <hominghamster> zpertee: look at virtualbox
[02:52] <randy_> virtual box
[02:52] <rww> ubottu: register | Aly-
[02:52] <randy_> I use virtual box
[02:52] <rww> Aly-: I don't have this information in Spanish, apologies.
[02:52] <zpertee> its for kids to play computer games with?  is virtualbox fairly intuitive?
[02:53] <randy_> really easy
[02:53] <randy_> i use it just to play on line checkers
[02:53] <zpertee> ok.  I'll take a look into it.  Thanks!
[02:53] <randy_> it is really good
[02:54] <deena> Hi
[02:54] <randy_> easy to delete too
[02:54] <lucascastro> virtualbox is so much fine
[02:54] <matelot> in CCSM (compiz) what does <Super>Button4 mean ? what is "Button4" ?
[02:54] <JosephM> greetings... I am looking for a simple email server that is easy to configure, a gui for setup and admin would be nice.... anyone have any suggestions?
[02:54] <defenceminister> What is the service called that provides the login screen on xubuntu? And how do I disable it?
[02:54] <maco> matelot: i think it's the scrollwheel up
[02:54] <daftykins> matelot: fourth mouse button i think.
[02:55] <HomingHamster> Am i getting through to #ubuntu?
[02:55] <Gapppy> super buton = windows button
[02:55] <maco> matelot: 1 is left, 2 is right, 3 is middle click, 4 & 5 are scroll wheel
[02:55] <maco> matelot: i think
[02:55] <deena> Hi anyone can explain how nat works
[02:55] <lucascastro> you have to take  from the sun repository cause that you download from ubuntu repository virtualbox-ose there's not so good
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> HomingHamster:  if we say no.. :) what would you do then?
[02:55] <daftykins> deena: rewriting source and destination IP packet headers
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> !nat
[02:55] <HomingHamster> Dr_Willis: be rather confused, i've been struggleing with my firewall and cgi-irc etc.
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> deena:  there used to be a decent ip-masquerading howto.
[02:55] <deena> see i installed virutal box and running opensolaris inside it..
[02:56] <soreau> matelot: Super is the Windows key and Buttons4/5 are scroll up/down
[02:56] <stan_> I down loaded a video card driver file from Matrox.  It has a .run extension.  I don't know how to install it.
[02:57] <fuzzy`> anyone play qlive? :)
[02:57] <deena> when i check ip it is taking it is taking 10.x series
[02:57] <matelot> soreau - so for the compiz binding "<super>button4" means hold down super while pushing the wheels ?
[02:57] <fuzzy`> awesome with linux :)
[02:57] <deena> but my main pc is working 192.x. series
[02:57] <lucascastro>  /J #ubuntu-server
[02:57] <deena> how it works
[02:57] <daftykins> deena: can you ping your router? (if you use one)
[02:57] <daftykins> from the VM i mean
[02:58] <neil_d> I have 2 sata drives rigged as a RAID 1 :)   but when I remove a HDD (for testing) initramfs doesn't start md0 correctly :(  it sets the only drive as a spare..  but I can manually stop and assemble the drive OK (degraded).. what is wrong?
[02:58] <soreau> matelot: It means hold Super while scrolling the wheel (not clicking it)
[02:58] <matelot> soreau, ok
[02:58] <matelot> thanks
[02:59] <bankix> deena: You're using NAT in VirtualBox.
[02:59] <deena> yes
[03:00] <deena> how it works thats my question is
[03:00] <bankix> deena: So your guest system gets <IP_ADDRESS> for default
[03:00] <deena> yes
[03:00] <deena> global system is having 192.x.x.x
[03:00] <deena> series
[03:00] <deena> how it happens
[03:00] <bankix> deena: And the VirtualBox is doing the translation. You can reach your serving system on IP <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:00] <wojciech> !myaccess
[03:01] <deena> from global i am not able to ping
[03:01] <deena> if i try <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:01] <bankix> deena: VirtualBox acts as a normal router does, the only difference is that your gateway is <IP_ADDRESS> and not .2.1 as usual.
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> deena:  you may want to check the virtualbox docs on how it does the networking.  I normally set my vbox setups where they appear as a normal machine on the lan. (ip range 192.168.1.X)
[03:01] <joh6nn> zomfgcrazy: sorry, got called away for a moment
[03:01] <bankix> deena: So if you want to log into your host system, you do a ssh to <IP_ADDRESS>.
[03:02] <allyourbass> having some trouble with usb volumes not auto mounting
[03:02] <allyourbass> IO charset iso8859-1 not found
[03:02] <deena> i am able to ping from quest to global... but i am not from global to quest
[03:02] <allyourbass> http://pastebin.com/m2b1143a
[03:02] <bankix> deena: deena: from inside of your guest system, of course
[03:02] <allyourbass> any takers?
[03:02] <deena> that is why wondering how this nat is working
[03:02] <Blue1> deena: it's magic...
[03:03] <bankix> deena: Yes, you can't reach your guest system from outside of VirtualBox because of the NAT.
[03:03] <deena> what i have to do if i want to ping from global to guest
[03:03] <daftykins> deena: basically when a packet comes from a VM e.g. <IP_ADDRESS> the router between your real network 192.168.0.x will rewrite the source IP as being itself, so then the real network will pass it to the router. then the router rewrites the packet header with the destination of the guest and so it arrives there
[03:03] <bankix> deena: VirtualBox does not set up a corresponding network device with the host's IP <IP_ADDRESS>, it's some kind of "embedded" networking device
[03:03] <zomfgcrazy> I had a working dualboot of WinXP and Ubuntu goin, but the ubuntu install was a logical partition, so i deleted sda2 (the partition it was inside, i guess?) and now I rebooted and i get an error GRUB loading.  Error: no such partition grub rescue> _...  ..i never touched the windows install.. any ideas why it doesn't just boot into windows now and/or how i can fix it? if i boot from the ubuntu live cd it shows the windows inst
[03:03] <daftykins> deena: it's probably default virtualbox firewall'ing blocking ping the other way
[03:03] <Guest77373> .
[03:04] <bankix> deena: In fact, VirtualBox just seeds the packages directly into the networking layer.
[03:04] <daftykins> zomfgcrazy: is it XP?
[03:04] <zomfgcrazy> yes
[03:04] <bankix> deena: So you can't ping, ssh or what ever your guest from outside of virtual box when using NAT
[03:04] <bankix> deena: If you need access to your guest system, you'll have to use bridging instead of NAT.
[03:04] <daftykins> zomfgcrazy: boot the windows CD to recovery console and run "fixboot" then "fixmbr" then it'll be pure windows again. then install ubuntu
[03:05] <zomfgcrazy> daftykins, thank you. would it take more than a few lines to explain what happened so as to not do it again?
[03:05] <deena> in case of briding i have to configure same network range only am i right
[03:05] <bankix> deena: Then your network card acts like a network switch and you connect both, your host system and your guest, to this switch -- both getting one exclusive IP through DHCP.
[03:05] <allyourbass> anyone else having troubles with usb media not mounting ?
[03:05] <deena> example 192.x.x.x from to guest to global same series
[03:05] <daftykins> zomfgcrazy: i'm afraid i've no idea why GRUB was already present if you dont have ubuntu installed. that partition before was just empty really
[03:06] <zomfgcrazy> daftykins, thank you.
[03:06] <daftykins> zomfgcrazy: np. this is another option too: http://www.arsgeek.com/2008/01/15/how-to-fix-your-windows-mbr-with-an-ubuntu-livecd/
[03:06] <bankix> deena: No, using a different IP address for you guest won't help anything. If you need to connect to your guest system, your only chance is setting up network-bridging.
[03:08] <tim> hi
[03:08] <allyourbass> can someone help with this ?? http://pastebin.com/m2b1143a
[03:08] <tim> UBUNTU SUCK
[03:09] <tim> HAHAHAHA
[03:09] <FloodBot4> tim: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:09] <tim> MAC WINS
[03:09] <tim> FUCK YOU
[03:09] <goose_> !ops | tim would appear to be a trollercopter
[03:09] <tim> HAHAHA
[03:09] <FloodBot4> tim: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <goose_> allyourbass: perhaps: sudo apt-get install locales; sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[03:11] <wish^> So i installed ubuntu using the Wubui, but i wanna make it a full install.. how do i go about that?
[03:11] <goose_> wish^: do you want to keep windows?
[03:11] <miki> who wants to keep windows?
[03:11] <Dr_Willis> wish^:  not very easially from what i gather.. but ive heard it can be done.
[03:12] <goose_> it's not hard :3
[03:12] <allyourbass> ok goose i did that
[03:12] <allyourbass> still no luck
[03:12] <allyourbass> http://pastebin.com/m70594e06
[03:12] <allyourbass> thats what pops up when i plug the device in
[03:12] <jolaren> If irw is not giving any outputs, is it doomed not to work?
[03:12] <nvme> i want to start an XBMC x-session side by side with gnome, at startup. anyone know how i can do that ?
[03:12] <miki> Don't use enter as punchuation
[03:13] <Dr_Willis> wish^:  this thread has some urls with info --> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1204963
[03:13] <tcarter> i am trying to run a bin file. so far i have ran  sudo chmod +X Savage2Install-<IP_ADDRESS>-x86_64.bin it then turns green and i ran ./Savage2Install-<IP_ADDRESS>-x86_64.bin it then says initial Lua setup faild can not continue....any ideas
[03:13] <goose_> wish^: if you want to keep windows, backup whatever ubuntu files you want to keep, then uninstall Ubuntu from windows. Then, put the Ubuntu CD in, and restart you computer, and boot from CD. When it asks you during install if you want to split your HD between windows and Ubuntu, then you choose what you want, and the installer does the rest!
[03:14] <Dr_Willis> err thats not really 'converting' a wubi install to a 'full' install. :) in my mind..
[03:14] <unop> tcarter, you probably needed to use sudo?
[03:15] <Dr_Willis> do a normal install, mount the 'wubi' installed file/filesystem copy stuff over.. may work easier also.
[03:15] <wish^> not much
[03:15] <tcarter> unop:for the chmod or the ./filename.bin
[03:15] <bleepbloop> hi, I am having almost exactly the same issue as is explained in this thread: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=25457  , but I don't really understand the solution
[03:15] <wish^> i dont wanna keep windows
[03:15] <bleepbloop> or how to go about implementing it in my case
[03:15] <wish^> atm i have a 30gb intallation of ubuntu
[03:16] <wish^> which is embedded into my vista install
[03:16] <wish^> i wanna make it a proper installation. without having the cd
[03:16] <neil_d> I have a RAID1 setup.. if I turn the computer off, remove a HDD.. should it still boot correctly?
[03:16] <bankix> neil_d: If the raid1 is set up properly, yes
[03:17] <bleepbloop> apparently I have a problem with my cell ranges in an open office speadsheet that's preventing me from saving the spreadsheet
[03:17] <tcarter> unop: i get the same message regardless of sudo
[03:17] <bleepbloop> but I'm not quite sure how to fix the cell ranges
[03:17] <JosephM> greetings, I am in need of a mail server, and looking for one that is simple, easy to configure, and a gui to setup and admin would be a plus.... any ideas
[03:18] <neil_d> bankix: I thought so.. mine doesn't.  initramfs isn't setting up md0 correctly :(
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> wish^:  i would suggst you backup everything you got on wubi to some safe place as step 1 - in any case.
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> wish^:   You can go the 'backup/clean install/restore stuff' route.. or some how try to 'convert' the wubi  to a normal install..  that may be much harder
[03:19] <bankix> neil_d: Sure it's the initrd?
[03:19] <shizzle> ubuntu
[03:21] <neil_d> bankix: well it drops into the initramfs prompt... and the md0 has the only drive listed as a spare.. but I can "mdadm --stop /dev/md0" and then do a "mdadm --assemble --scan" and it restarts it correctly.
[03:22] <Like> lolz with guns
[03:22] <neil_d> bankix: can I get it to continue booting after I get the initramfs prompt?
[03:24] <johnny1243> I just got a dell studio 15 and I am having a screen problem with ubuntu it boots up on the live cd but gives a blank screen but it works with a monitor
[03:24] <johnny1243> does anyone know of this problem
[03:24] <darkfuneral> i need a gui to enter in hierarchial data
[03:25] <marcosRz> guys I'm making a video tutorial, whats the correct pronunciation of .ini files and -?
[03:25] <coz_> johnny1243,   mm let me see if I understand this...if you connect a monitor it shows  but doesnt on the laptop screen?
[03:25] <marcosRz> dot I N I ? - , hypen hifen?
[03:25] <johnny1243> coz, yes
[03:26] <coz_> johnny1243,  mm that's odd... are you sure the laptop screen works properly?
[03:26] <johnny1243> coz, it works with win 7
[03:27] <johnny1243> coz, a few other people have had this problem but no answer
[03:27] <wish^> hmm, Dr_willis do you know of it being done?
[03:27] <neil_d> coz_: johnny1243: could it be a dual monitor type thing.. defaulting to the wrong monitor?
[03:27] <coz_> johnny1243,  ok  then we know it works..  if you unplug the monitor the laptop screen still refuses to work?
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> wish^:  nope. I avoide wubi as if it was the plague..  (a also missed the last 5 min or so of chat in here)
[03:27] <zealiod> what command line program can i use to grab the urls that people are loading through my proxy?
[03:27] <johnny1243> coz, let me try
[03:28] <wish^> not much has been said willis
[03:28] <wish^> thing is, i just wanted to try the new distro
[03:28] <wish^> and it seemed to be a nice option so now i wanna swap over to it permanently
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> wish^:  try the tools.. or just do a clean install..
[03:28] <jellow> Liked: Did you sort out your error?
[03:28] <LizardK|ng> zealiod, wget
[03:28] <johnny1243> coz, yes
[03:29] <Liked> jellow: nah ill just use debian
[03:29] <coz_> johnny1243,  so it works now?
[03:29] <wish^> well, i can do a clean install but i dont have the install disc
[03:29] <johnny1243> coz, no
[03:29] <coz_> johnny1243,   ok   are you now on the liv
[03:29] <Dr_Willis> wish^:  you can make a bootabel usb flash  if you wanted to
[03:29] <wish^> so i guess i gotta download and burn that first then
[03:29] <coz_> dam
[03:29] <zomfgcrazy> when installing ubuntu with an ubuntu livecd how do i make sure it installs ubuntu as a primary partition and not logical?
[03:29] <johnny1243> coz, still just the monitor
[03:29] <jellow> Liked: you try apt-get -f install ?
[03:29] <coz_> johnny1243,  are you now on the live cd
[03:29] <darkfuneral> is there a linux tool for entering in hierarchial data?
[03:29] <johnny1243> coz, no but the laptop is next to me
[03:30] <johnny1243> coz, and on the live cd
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  iuse the partion manager tool in the installer to lay out my HD's exactly how i want and tell it where to mount / and /home  - i alwyas use primariy partions
[03:30] <coz_> johnny1243,   ok if you can get to the live cd  open a terminal and type   lspci | grep -i vga
[03:30] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis, Gparted?
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  the installer has  a partionign section you use to tell it where to mount what locations where.  You could use gparted first.. then use the custome install settings in the installer
[03:32] <zealiod> LizardK|ng: no, i meant sniff what urls are being loaded...
[03:32] <coz_> johnny1243,  any luck with that command?
[03:32] <johnny1243> coz, output 00:02.0 vga vompatible controller: intel corporation mobile 4 series chipset integrated graphics controller (rev 07)
[03:33] <coz_> johnny1243,  ok now this command     glxinfo -l |grep MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE
[03:33] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[03:33] <johnny1243> coz, sorry what a sec i need to try them all out
[03:33] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis, when creating a new partition, next to "Use As:" what do I select for a bootable Ubuntu partition?
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  if you want sda1 to be / = you tell it to use sda1 with the mountpoint of /
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> set the filessytem to be ext3/4 or whatever you want
[03:34] <johnny1243> coz, GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE = 4096
[03:35] <hoink> problem: Deleted files return after reboot. (Jaunty) Happens with Gnome and shell (rm).  Saw a post on launchpad (?) but can't find it.
[03:35] <coz_> johnny1243,  ok and what is the resolution of the laptop screen and the monitor you have attached?
[03:35] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis, / = ?
[03:35] <johnny1243> coz, let me check
[03:36] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  linux basics / = the root partition
[03:36] <Dr_Willis>   / is called 'root' not the same as /root/
[03:36] <tympvv3> trying to get graphics drivers working for x3100 graphics card on an inspiron1525, shell says i have direct rendering but crashes when I try to launch games like SuperTux, or through Wine.
[03:36] <k3rn> i insterted a script into runlevels 2-5. i have some echo messages in it, i would like to see them on bootup and shutdown.
[03:37] <Siria_Calv> I need a video convert that can convert .avi and .flv to .asf. Yes I know I´ve asked before and been told to use ffmpeg, but ffmpeg doesn´t convert to the .asf format. It´ll convert to that extension, but not that format. I need that format specifically because my portable media player is having problems rewinding/fast-forwarding videos of the other supported formats.
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> k3rn:  use the 'nosplash' and remove the 'quiet' option from the kernel boot lines - perhaps. to see all messages
[03:37] <k3rn> can i define that in grubs menu.lst - or may i uninstall usplash? will those echo msgs show anyhow?
[03:37] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis, I don't know if i want it to be /.  i don't understand what that would mean.
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  you always have a / partition . its the core of the linux filesystem
[03:38] <Sememmon> is there an issue w/ the latest karmic & wifi speed? I'm noticing very poor performance.. but seemed to be fine yesterday.
[03:38] <johnny1243> coz, 1024 by 768 for monitor laptop is ~1400 by ~1200 if I think
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  normal partion layout ==>  (sda1 /) (sda2 /home) (sda3 Swap)
[03:38] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis, If I set it to / would that affect the winxp partition?
[03:38] <Sememmon> coz_: =]
[03:38] <coz_> Sememmon, :)
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  you make a partition and mount it as / - thats where linux installs to. Nothign to do with windows at all.
[03:39] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis: okay. so Ext4 or Ext3? Is there any noticeable difference for a novice such as myself?
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  stick with ext4 then
[03:39] <Siria_Calv> Sememmon, have you left your computer and its wifi antenna on since it worked yesterday? I have experiance sometimes that a wifi antenna that has been left on will have trouble connecting eventually after being left on too long.
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  if you dont know linux basics. why are you even worrying about all this> the normal install should do fine for you
[03:40] <Jeeves> how can I fix my GRUB2 install?  I had to repair XP, then I had to reinstall windows 7, and now I can't get GRUB to work
[03:40] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis: Understood.  At this point I would like WinXP to stay as the default boot partition (so if I don't touch anything it boots to windows).  Would I set that here or later?
[03:40] <Sememmon> Siria_Calv: I've restarted. Also restarted the wap just to make sure. I'm getting better wifi performance on my cell phone =P
[03:40] <Sememmon> tried downgrading to an older kernel .. seems to be a bit better.
[03:41] <coz_> Johnnny1234
[03:41] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis: I would like to dual-boot and i've been told primary is the way to go for <= 4 partitions, and i'll be using <= 4.
[03:41] <Jeeves> how can I fix my GRUB2 install?  I had to repair XP, then I had to reinstall windows 7, and now I can't get GRUB to work
[03:41] <neil_d> A mdadm raid1 doesn't seem to work on this motherboard!!  if I was to plug the drives into a cheap PCI raid card, could I boot of that raid card?
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  You repartiioon/resize your drive to haev a section of it be 'unallocated' and you just tell the ubuntu installer to use the unallocated space..  thats about all there is to it.
[03:41] <k3rn> Dr_Willis: wehn i use nosplash i see the bootup outputs but i can't see any of my script.
[03:41] <coz_> johnny1243,  hey guy   did you try to unplug the monitor and then reboot into the live cd?
[03:41] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:   its not really going to matter if its primary or not.
[03:41] <coz_> johnny1243,   both monitors attached are going to exceed the MAX_TEXTURE size  hardware limitation
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  or  resize windows - make unallocated space.. partiton the unallocated space to make a / /home and swap partition then tell the installer to use them
[03:42] <coz_> johnny1243,  once installed you can set the resolutions for both monitors so that it doesnt exceed the MAX_Texture in any one direction
[03:42] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis: Okay.  Well, extra knowledge is never (rarely?) a bad thing. ^.^  Would I set WinXP to be default boot in GRUB here or later?
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  somthing like -->  (sda1 Windows) (sda2 /) (sda3 /home) (sda4 swap)
[03:42] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  you tweak grub later.
[03:43] <Jeeves> how can I fix my GRUB2 install?  I had to repair XP, then I had to reinstall windows 7, and now I can't get GRUB to work
[03:44] <Dr_Willis> !grub2 | Jeeves
[03:44] <johnny1243> coz_, so I should set the resolution lower and install
[03:44] <Jeeves> ubottu:  you suck
[03:44] <Jeeves> and for the reccord, I know it's a bot
[03:45] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis: I have decided to go back and tell it to just use 'largest contiguous free space' so I don't have to set up a swap.  Where would I tweak grub to change the list of boot options?
[03:45] <rww> Jeeves: have you tried https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD on the page it linked to?
[03:45] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  you are confused.. it will STILL use/make a swap partition.
[03:46] <johnny1243> coz_, also about installing i wanted to have a separate , /boot, /, /home partition I have done it before and I cannot resize this huge partition in gpart
[03:46] <coz_> johnny1243,  first I would reboot with just the laptop screen into the live cd
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  grub2 is confuigured by the /etc/default/grub and /etc/grub.d/* files
[03:46] <Sememmon> I've been told that others are also having recent wifi speed issues
[03:46] <johnny1243> coz_, I think I would get a blank screen
[03:46] <johnny1243> coz_,  but I will try
[03:46] <coz_> johnny1243,  ok I may not be the best person to talk with about partitioning
[03:46] <rerorerorero> Hello. Is there a way to prevent Samba from scanning the LAN?
[03:46] <Dr_Willis> zomfgcrazy:  that option i think will resize your windows partitions and then use the free space. (i think)
[03:46] <zomfgcrazy> Dr_Willis: I am very confused. But thank you for trying. ^.^
[03:46] <coz_> johnny1243,  I would try that first just to test it  make sure the monitor is unplugged
[03:46] <johnny1243> coz_,  the screen stuff was help full
[03:47] <johnny1243> coz_,  let me reboot then
[03:47] <coz_> johnny1243,  the max texture size is unfortunately a hardware limitiation  that cannot be changed to my knowledge
[03:47] <rerorerorero> I don't trust some people on my LAN and I would like to shut off the LAN users or stop trying to ping them or whatever.
[03:47] <rerorerorero> Is it possible?
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> rerorerorero:  proberly  if you give more details about what you are trying to do exactly and your setup
[03:48] <neil_d> A mdadm raid1 doesn't seem to work on this motherboard!!  if I was to plug the drives into a cheap PCI raid card, could I boot of that raid card?
[03:48] <Dr_Willis> Protecting your pc from the rest of the LAN? or  protecting the network from idiot users? :)
[03:49] <johnny1243> coz_,  how do I change it
[03:49] <tucemiux> anyone knows how I can specify the classpath for java?
[03:49] <Armando> hello
[03:49] <coz_> johnny1243,  max texture size?? you cant unless you get a higher end video card
[03:49] <termitor> hello
[03:50] <Armando> I wanna go to spanish chanel
[03:50] <Staatsfeind> error while loading shared libraries: libtiff.so.3: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 what can i do?
[03:50] <johnny1243> coz_,  no like lower my monitor to the correct one but I just thought of how display in settings right
[03:50] <Dr_Willis> !es | Armando
[03:51] <Armando> ok
[03:51] <rerorerorero> dr_willis: Rest of the LAN would do, but it's mostly idiot users, the reason.
[03:51] <coz_> johnny1243,  right
[03:51] <Armando> thank you
[03:51] <johnny1243> coz_,  what should I lower it to
[03:51] <Ademan> is there any comprehensive list of default compose-key combinations anywhere?
[03:51] <mdg> hello
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> rerorerorero:  by default theres no services on ubuntu - so i doubt if they are going to get to your machine and do anything.
[03:52] <johnny1243> coz_, this is not cool thought this laptop does 1920 by 1200 screen res and it is old really old
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> rerorerorero:  if you wanted to be truely paranoid install the variouys firewall tools/setup a firewall and logwatch to watch for access attempts
[03:52] <Flotonoc> Would it be smarter to run the 32-Bit Ubuntu OS on a 64-Bit processor or just go with the 64-Bit version?
[03:52] <rerorerorero> I keep getting netbios and smb traffic to their computers. And although I have nothing shared I fear someone would do like "hey he's there let's try something"
[03:52] <Dr_Willis> Flotonoc:  if i can use 64bit - i use 64bit
[03:52] <joh6nn> i'm having some serious slowdown with my wireless connection, compared to the speeds that i had in both Hardy and Jaunty.  I've tried disabling ipv6 and a few other things, but nothing seems to help
[03:52] <termitor> :p , who what to test with me, a hi res webcam ?
[03:52] <johnny1243> coz_, thanks for the help
[03:53] <Ademan> Flotonoc: In my opinion 64 bit problems outweigh any advantages
[03:53] <coz_> johnny1243,  well the live cd should pick up the correct resolution  even if it is safe graphics mode you use
[03:53] <termitor> who whan
[03:53] <neil_d> If I was to get a cheap PCI RAID card (e.g. http://www.mwave.com.au/newAU/mwaveAU/productdetail.asp?SKU=22080353&utm_source=getprice&utm_medium=cpc) could I boot from it?
[03:53] <Flotonoc> What do you mean?
[03:53] <semitones> Flotonoc: it depends on what you want to use it fore
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> I cant even recall any problems ive had with 64bit in the last year+
[03:53] <semitones> *for
[03:53] <Flotonoc> It outweighs?
[03:53] <Flotonoc> Ohh.
[03:53] <Flotonoc> I see.
[03:53] <johnny1243> coz_, pick it with the install or when booting up
[03:53] <semitones> Flotonoc: it doesn't
[03:53] <semitones> Flotonoc: I'm using it right now
[03:53] <cvd> Ademan,  only if you use linux
[03:53] <Flotonoc> I heard that there are no performance changes when you go with 32-Bit over 64-Bit.
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> Flotonoc:  for normal home users.. it proberly wont matter much - unless you got 4+gb of ram.
[03:53] <coz_> johnny1243,  when booting the live cd   there should be a safe graphics mode
[03:53] <Dr_Willis> Flotonoc:  there are some gains in some cases.
[03:53] <albech> my 64bit works flawless
[03:54] <mickster04> can i get ssh help here?
[03:54] <johnny1243> coz_, ok let me try that
[03:54] <albech> mickster04, yes, if you ask the question
[03:54] <Flotonoc> So you only see differences with 4 GB or more memory?
[03:54] <semitones> Flotonoc: if you have more than 4GB ram, you'll have performance gains. And there are some smaller gains for 64 bit programs as well
[03:54] <Dr_Willis> Only issue i knotive of with 64 vs 32bit - is that zsnes is 32bit only. :()
[03:54] <One``> Does Ubuntu have any kind of problems with ZIP files on a fresh install? I downloaded a torrent with about 4,500 ZIP files using Transmission and half of them are coming up as being corrupt despite no one else having this problem
[03:54] <Siria_Calv> I don´t think this is the right channel, but does anyone know of a reliable secure proxy server I can use for my web-enable programs such as my bit-torrent client and my web browser?
[03:54] <coz_> johnny1243,   but let me say that I dont use laptops  at all so my experience with video issues on them is severely limited
[03:54] <semitones> Flotonoc: if you
[03:55] <Ademan> *but then again 64 bit binaries are twice as big and you get twice as many cache misses*
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> One``:  ive never had any issues with zip files.
[03:55] <Cpudan80> One``: ubuntu supports zip files -- with the unzip command
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> One``:  try using winzip or winrar in wine to access them perhaps
[03:55] <Cpudan80> One``: or with ark (kde) or file roller (gnome)
[03:55] <One``> Good idea, then I can see if they are actually corrupt
[03:55] <mickster04> well i am trying to create an ssh keyfile between a linux server (ubuntu) and a windows machine using putty. however i always get "server refused our key" no matter where i create it (puttygen) or ssh-keygen -t rsa any clues?
[03:55] <albech> Siria_Calv, squid?
[03:55] <semitones> Flotonoc: if you're intending to install a lot of third party programs not in synaptic, you might want 32 bit for better compatibility, but other than that, might as well make full use of your hardware
[03:55] <Cpudan80> One``: the torrent might be corrupt
[03:55] <hiexpo> good evening all
[03:56]  * Dr_Willis isent sure that 64bit bianries are 2x as large as 32bit.. is true..
[03:56] <johnny1243> coz_, well the help is appreciated
[03:56] <mdg> hiexpo: hello
[03:56] <Flotonoc> OK.
[03:56] <hiexpo> mdg how it goes
[03:56] <jimio> *testing*
[03:56] <One``> It's a.. I dunno what you would call it, but the torrent isn't the problem here. Something has gone wrong when it was being downloaded
[03:56] <rww> Dr_Willis: it's not
[03:56] <coz_> johnny1243,  no problem  I hope you get this resolved
[03:56] <Flotonoc> I was wondering because computers I find may be less than 64-Bit.
[03:56] <Siria_Calv> albech, can you give me the url to their home page?
[03:56] <mdg> hiexpo: it goes !  yay!
[03:56] <Dr_Willis> rww:  yea. thats what i was thinking >) but i was googling for some benchmarks..
[03:57] <johnny1243> coz_, thanks
[03:57] <albech> Siria_Calv, try google squid ;)
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> Flotonoc:  theres very few issues ive seen in this channel about 64 vs 32bit ubuntu. So use what you want. If you got 4+gb ram DEFINATLy go 64bit
[03:57] <rww> I've used 64-bit for several years now. For normal user tasks, there is no appreciable performance difference between 64-bit and 32-bit.
[03:57] <hiexpo> yah i am so tired here i lost my hard drive so been up all night fixing and reinstalling
[03:57] <bankix> OK, I'm off then. I solved my problem myself. Greetings..
[03:57] <mdg> hiexpo: how did it happen?
[03:57] <bankix> Bye
[03:57] <rww> (except for the whole RAM thing)
[03:57] <hiexpo> overheated
[03:57] <Flotonoc> Alright.
[03:57] <Dr_Willis> Ive notived video reencoding/converting seems a little faster for me on 64bit.. but that could also be encoder tweaks/differances also
[03:58] <albech> mickster04, and you copied the key generated on your client into ~.ssh/authorized_keys on the server?
[03:58] <albech> mickster04, and you have set the right privileges on that directory/file?
[03:58] <cvd> so there is 64bits for nothing?
[03:58] <mickster04> albech yeah the public one
[03:58] <mythril> which graphical cd burners have a verify burned cd feature?
[03:58] <hiexpo> i had a lot of programs
[03:58] <rww> Dr_Willis: that's possible. Things like BOINC can be a lot faster with the right binaries too. But for email-checking, IM, etc., not so much.
[03:58] <rerorerorero> Uhmm...not sure about hardware but in coding terms 64bits doesn't only mean bigger-capacity numerical storage?
[03:58] <mdg> hiexpo: were you dual booting?
[03:58] <haitiankid4lyf> hello all
[03:59] <termitor> who whan
[03:59] <One``> Downloaded WinRAR and the ZIP files open fine under WINE, but in whatever Ubuntu comes with it is saying it is corrupt.
[03:59] <mythril> which graphical cd burners have a verify burned cd feature? (sorry forgot to mention Ubuntu 8.10)
[03:59] <termitor> :p , who whan test with me, a hi res webcam ?
[03:59] <mickster04> albech i ran ssh-keygen to make sure the priveledges where predone.what should they be just in case?
[03:59] <albech> mickster04, chmod 600 the file?
[03:59] <haitiankid4lyf> my wifi suddenly stopped working
[03:59] <rerorerorero> If so I can see how it makes video encoding run faster but barely noticeable in regular stuff.
[03:59] <Flotonoc> How would a person convert a 32-Bit OS to 64-Bit? 0.o
[03:59] <Flotonoc> Or vice versa?
[03:59] <rerorerorero> But I might be stupidly wrong of course.
[03:59] <hiexpo> ya but wasnt really using it cause my dual was backtrack and i used my dvd most of the time
[03:59] <albech> mickster04, the .ssh should be 700
[03:59] <blakkheim> Flotonoc: you cant
[03:59] <zomfgcrazy> hi
[04:00] <Flotonoc> So when they made 32-Bit Windows Vista...
[04:00] <haitiankid4lyf> Flotonoc: if you have a 64bit system you can download some 32bit libs that help with some programs
[04:00] <mdg> hiexpo: I seem to learn a lot of things the hard way :(
[04:00] <Flotonoc> They completely remade a 64-Bit version from scratch?
[04:00] <One``> Ohnoes, errors. Unexpected end of archive!
[04:00] <mickster04> albech: i dont need to restart ssh to notice the difference right?
[04:00] <hiexpo> lol yep no more dual boot for me
[04:00] <albech> mickster04, it will never hurt
[04:00] <albech> mickster04, but i dont believe so
[04:00] <rerorerorero> I actually have a 64bit processor but I prefer to save myself the headache of having to use compatibility layers and whining about 64bit binaries like everyone does.
[04:01] <mickster04> albech: well that hasnt changed anything it seems
[04:01] <hiexpo> i know better to cause all these distros will run off dvd /cd
[04:01] <albech> mickster04, what does your log file say?
[04:01] <albech> mickster04, thats always a good place to start ;)
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> Flotonoc:  ive had more issues with 64 vs 32bit winjdows.. then i have 32 vs 64bit linux :)
[04:01] <hiexpo> and if they dont youcan make em to
[04:01] <neil_d> If I was to get a cheap PCI RAID card (e.g. http://www.mwave.com.au/newAU/mwaveAU/productdetail.asp?SKU=22080353&utm_source=getprice&utm_medium=cpc) could I boot from it?
[04:01] <mdg> hiexpo: actually I meant installing
[04:02] <mickster04> albech: which one?
[04:02] <hiexpo> installing ya i have installed a lot of programs myself
[04:02] <hiexpo> i started with dos
[04:02] <albech> mickster04, 2 sec let me fire up a ubuntu.. i believe its is /var/log/auth on ubuntu as well
[04:02] <cvd> apt-get or aptitude?
[04:03] <mickster04> albech: sorry but it isnt:/ at least u have a reason to start up ubuntu:p
[04:03] <mdg> hiexpo: how long you been with ubuntu/linux?
[04:03] <mickster04> cd /var/log
[04:03] <hydrozen> Hi, I am installing Ubuntu 9.10 server and setting up LVM manually, but I'm not sure I understand how I can do encrypted LVM manually?
[04:03] <jumper> HOLA
[04:04] <cvd> hola
[04:04] <jumper> COMO ESTAN TODOS
[04:04] <albech> mickster04, try messages
[04:04] <domi007> hey everyone
[04:04] <cvd> mal
[04:04] <domi007> i googled a lot, but couldn't find anything
[04:04] <domi007> ubutntu 9.10
[04:04] <cvd> detecting CAPS
[04:04] <domi007> ipw2200
[04:04] <domi007> unable to load ucode=-22
[04:05] <domi007> (dmesg says that)
[04:05] <hiexpo> i was with linux about ten years ago and dot lazy than went to windows and just restarted about 6 months ago with bnacktrack and ubuntu
[04:05] <hiexpo> mdg, - i got tired of paying for internet
[04:05] <rerorerorero> Linux 10 years ago was horrible.
[04:05] <albech> mickster04, i dont use ubuntu on my servers, but the principle is the same
[04:05] <cvd> and still
[04:05] <albech> rerorerorero, not horrible just harder
[04:05] <rerorerorero> albech: Back then dependency hell was still alive.
[04:05] <mdg> hiexpo: ...you use just free wifi now?
[04:06] <hiexpo> mdg, - and wep is so easy
[04:06] <albech> rerorerorero, it still is in some cases
[04:06] <cvd> who care about OS is the software
[04:06] <Siria_Calv> albech, the site for squid only provides a program to start a proxy server, it does not actually provide a proxy server. Since albech couldn´t help me, will someone else please do so?
[04:06] <hiexpo> ya i live in motelso its free
[04:06] <[ka]killer> i have a pretty old install of ubuntu (7.04) and i know its not really supported but i have an issue with the shared folders
[04:06] <mdg> hiexpo: where's motelso?
[04:06] <rerorerorero> albech: It is but it's always fixable, not that hard. Maybe a no-go for a newcomer but definitely manageable with some calm.
[04:06] <[ka]killer> when i share a folder and try to get to it from my mac it asks for a user name and password and none of the accounts i know are good work
[04:07] <cvd> jumper, ?
[04:07] <rerorerorero> Note I mention "calm" instead of "skill"
[04:07] <Fudge> how do i tell what version ubuntu im using in termainl, it was built feb 08
[04:07] <albech> rerorerorero, think that is a discussion for #ubuntu-chat ;)
[04:07] <hiexpo> mdg, - it only takes me about 2 minutes to crack wep
[04:07] <rww> ubottu: version | Fudge
[04:07] <coz_> Fudge,   lsb_release -a
[04:07] <semitones> Fudge: uname -a, I think
[04:07] <rerorerorero> albech: True, my bad.
[04:08] <Fudge> i did that and got teh kernel
[04:08] <mdg> hiexpo: that's not a very good habit to be in
[04:08] <Fudge> Linux nick-desktop 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Tue Feb 12 05:41:34 UTC 2008 i686 goodnight
[04:08] <Fudge> U/Linux
[04:08] <cvd> semitones, thats for kernel
[04:08] <semitones> Fudge, did you try what cvd said?
[04:08] <rww> Fudge: lsb_release -a
[04:08] <albech> Siria_Calv, so you want a free proxy service that you can use on the internet?? and not an application?
[04:08] <semitones> er,
[04:08] <semitones> coz
[04:08] <Siria_Calv> albech, correct
[04:08] <cvd> semitones,  yes
[04:09] <[ka]killer> anyone know what to do?
[04:09] <albech> albech, in that case you are right, this is not the place to ask that question ;)
[04:09] <hiexpo> i know  but i do it mostly to learn i get it free were i live i just do it to test my skills
[04:09] <mickster04> albech: nothing about authkey?
[04:09] <Fudge> k sec
[04:09] <mickster04> ooh
[04:09] <semitones> cvd: learn something new every day :)
[04:09] <zomfgcrazy> where in the /etc/default/grub file would I change the default boot partition? =\
[04:09] <Siria_Calv> albech, more specifically one I can use with programs on my computer.
[04:09] <[ka]killer> i have a slight emergency with an external drive failing and this is the only place i can back it up to
[04:09] <haitiankid4lyf> hey my wlan has been working problem free, but now it seems to be non existent
[04:09] <cvd> ia there any program to edit de boot-grub menu?
[04:09] <mickster04> albech: err attempting to add filename encryptionkey to user session keyring rc = [1]
[04:10] <semitones> cvd: grub2?
[04:10] <Out_Cold> haitiankid4lyf, can you run sudo iwconfig in a terminal
[04:10] <hiexpo> and linux is a lot better now than it use to be not as hard now
[04:10] <Fudge> lsb_release -a
[04:10] <Fudge> oops
[04:10] <howdeep> how can i share files between two ubuntu machines?
[04:10] <Fudge> feisty
[04:10] <Out_Cold> Fudge, happens even to the best of us ;)
[04:10] <Siria_Calv> haitiankid4lyf, If you´ve left it on non-stop for a long time you probably only need to reset or restart the wlan modem
[04:10] <zomfgcrazy> howdeep: ubuntuone?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> [ka]killer:  set a samba password for the user with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[04:10] <rerorerorero> Anyone here is using KDE4.4 and noticed traffic to "bluemchen.kde.org"? I want to know what it is but the KDE channel is totally dead. Using the latest ppa release in Karmic (Ubuntu, not Kubuntu)
[04:10] <albech> !samba | howdeep
[04:10] <Fudge> can i jsut dist-upgarde etc?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> [ka]killer:  then try that username/samba password
[04:10] <zomfgcrazy> cvd: i'm looking fo a answer to that question, too. =x
[04:10] <Out_Cold> howdeep, ssh, ubuntu one, nfs, samba, ftp
[04:11] <howdeep> Out_Cold, isin't samba for sharing with windows?
[04:11] <semitones> cvd: if it's regular grub, you edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, but I think you know that! I don't know about grub 2
[04:11] <albech> mickster04, 2 sec
[04:11] <haitiankid4lyf> Out_Cold: http://pastebin.org/81351
[04:11] <Out_Cold> howdeep, yes but works for ubuntu also
[04:11] <howdeep> Out_Cold, both machines are linux
[04:12] <haitiankid4lyf> Siria_Calv: i rebooted computer many times
[04:12] <outer_space> anyone know whats up with name-services? the domain i had with them got domain-parked and their domain is also name-parked whats up with all this??
[04:12] <brophat> UNR has that upgrade feature?
[04:12] <Siria_Calv> haitiankid4lyf, not your computer, your modem
[04:12] <hiexpo> mdg, - i would never do anything wrong to hurt antone either
[04:12] <[ka]killer> anyone?
[04:12] <albech> mickster04, did you use ssh-copy-id?
[04:12] <Out_Cold> haitiankid4lyf, how about lspci | grep Network
[04:12] <Out_Cold> haitiankid4lyf, may need sudo
[04:12] <neil_d> can you boot from a PCI raid card if it uses a "fake-raid" driver?
[04:13] <rww> ubottu: ot | outer_space
[04:13] <albech> mickster04, i never got that working so i manually copied the public file and appended it to the authorized file
[04:13] <haitiankid4lyf> Siria_Calv: other comps connect to modem, the wifi manager seems non existent
[04:13] <haitiankid4lyf> Out_Cold: didnt get anything
[04:13] <mdg> Does anyone here use a serial or USB modem?
[04:14] <nvme> anyone know how to control what VT gdm starts on ?
[04:14] <domi007> hey again
[04:14] <Siria_Calv> haitiankidlyf, maybe your wifi adapter requires a restricted driver. If so your problem might be it got dissabled. Try reinstalling the driver.
[04:14] <Out_Cold> haitiankid4lyf, how about just lspci and look for your network card please
[04:14] <albech> mickster04, and you have 'RSAAuthentication yes' and 'PubkeyAuthentication yes' in your sshd.conf?
[04:14] <void_pointer> mdg, I use my mobile phone through USB as a modem. I hope that doesn't anger you
[04:14] <cvd> any here use empathy?
[04:14] <Out_Cold> nvme, by default tty7 is for x display
[04:15] <domi007> so i try to use my ipw2200 but i got
[04:15] <domi007> an error
[04:15] <domi007> in dmesg
[04:15] <Out_Cold> dunno if you can change it
[04:15] <cvd> how to make empathy log in automatically when ubuntu starts?
[04:15] <domi007> like unable to load ucode -22
[04:15] <Siria_Calv> cvd, not me. and never will I use it
[04:15] <domi007> i looked it up
[04:15] <mdg> void_pointer: no it doesn't - just wondering how many people still use dial-up...
[04:15] <nvme> Out_Cold, im trying to change it to vt5
[04:15] <MrUnix> cvd, Add it to startup aps.
[04:15] <mickster04> albech just checking now
[04:15] <domi007> couldn't find anything
[04:15] <Siria_Calv> cvd, I use aMSN