[00:11] <joh6nn> using kubuntu 14.04, my screensaver always locks, even if i set screen locker type to screensaver, and uncheck "require password"
[00:11] <joh6nn> i don't see a way to set it to not lock the screen
[00:12] <joh6nn> i found a KDE bug report for this from 4.10, but it says that it was fixed in 2013: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=310871
[00:15] <joh6nn> is anyone else seeing this behavior, or am i just doing something wrong?
[01:02] <mark__> hi
[01:04] <mark__> are there other rooms?
[01:05] <TheFakeazneD525> mark__: uh... I guess
[01:05] <TheFakeazneD525> what do you have in mind mark
[01:05] <TheFakeazneD525> er, mark__
[01:05] <Unit193> !alis
[01:11] <mark__> ok i give up
[01:13] <dolomite> ok
[02:22] <LogicalDash> Sometimes when I have to change the resolution, like for certain games, it causes fonts to go blurry when I switch back to my full screen resolution. Pretty sure this is to do with desktop effects since the fonts clear up when I suspend desktop effects.
[02:22] <LogicalDash> Is there a way to prevent this? Or at least make it stop without disabling desktop effects altogether?
[02:27] <abnemo> hello. is anybody there?
[02:34] <valorie> !ask | aboudreault
[04:53] <shannon> hello
[06:28] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:28] <TheFakeazneD525> guten morgen :}
[06:30] <lordievader> Hey TheFakeazneD525, how are you?
[06:30] <TheFakeazneD525> I'm good, you?
[06:32] <lordievader> Haven't had my first coffee yet.
[06:33]  * TheFakeazneD525 slides lordievader a coffee
[06:34] <lordievader> Thanks :)
[10:30] <alvin> Is it me, or is plasma5 (14.10 beta) missing a GUI printer configuration?
[10:50] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:11] <alvin> Good afternoon. (Well, here it's afternoon)
[11:12] <alvin> and another session with Plasma5. Bending it to my will.
[11:12] <alvin> We've yet to see who is strongest.
[11:15] <lordievader> alvin: You are, and if not.. sudo ;)
[11:15] <alvin> lol
[11:16] <alvin> "I am root"
[11:17] <lordievader> alvin: That's bad practice ;)
[11:17] <alvin> I know. But somebody has to be
[11:18] <alvin> By the way, plasma5 will not be offered as the default choice for 14.10 I suppose?
[11:20] <BluesKaj> 5 still needs a lot of work so i doubt it
[11:22] <alvin> That's good. It would be too soon.
[11:25] <alvin> Hmm, I files this bug 1282531 in february, but it has not received any attention. Should this be filed in Debian instead? (Speedcrunch used to be included in Kubuntu by default if I remember correctly)
[12:16] <floown> hello
[12:17] <floown> I have installed Moblock (Peerguardian) but Chokoq is bloqued
[12:17] <floown> I have add :  twitter:<IP_ADDRESS> in /etc/pgl/allow.p2p
[12:17] <floown> I have restart de daemon, but my timeline is not read
[12:17] <floown> What's wrong?
[12:24] <alvin> floown: I've never used Moblock. That said, you probably have to allow the Twitter API. Do you know where Choqok connects?
[12:25] <alvin> host twitter.com points to 4 addresses.
[12:25] <floown> Ah ok!
[12:25] <floown> what's the ip please?
[12:25] <floown> Have do a ping
[12:25] <alvin> Just type this in your terminal: host twitter.com
[12:25] <floown> ok
[12:30] <alvin> floown: According to wireshark, Choqok connects to api.twitter.com, so use the addresses from host api.twitter.com and you'll be fine.
[12:33] <floown> alvin: thx a lot, it works with the right servers
[12:33] <alvin> :-)
[14:47] <ik_> hi ¡¡
[14:47] <lordievader> o/
[14:47] <SonikkuAmerica> \o
[14:48] <ik_> mmmmm ...
[14:49] <lordievader> Such randomness...
[15:51] <xiex> admin
[16:12] <rberg_> I messed up big time.. can anybody tell me what the kubuntu default font is in kate?
[16:14] <rberg_> I accidentally changed it :( I was looking at m+ so I could put it in the konsole config manually
[16:14] <BluesKaj> rberg_, it's set in system settings>app appearance>fonts , but usually the ubuntu font is default if no changes were made
[16:19] <rberg_> ubuntu medium looks ok.. thanks.. but I dont think that is what it was
[16:23] <BluesKaj> rberg_, changes in system settings fonts is global for the user, but not as user with root permissions
[16:24] <jinksies> rberg_: I think the default is not medium but regular
[16:24] <jinksies> size 9
[16:27] <rberg_> I should also note I changed the font in kate only.. I think the system monospace font looks like what I want
[16:29] <rberg_> ahh yeah when I do kdesudo kate its using monospace
[16:31] <BluesKaj> you can make it global with root permissions by running kdesudo systemsettings in krunner then adjusting the fonts
[19:05] <DaHoC> Hi everyone, I want to install kubuntu on my new machine, the core should go on the SSD and the /home, /tmp, /swap should go to the normal HDD. Is it ok to put symlinks for these from the SSD to HDD or do I need separate partitions on the HDD for each of /home, /var, /tmp, /swap, etc.?
[19:06] <lordievader> DaHoC: Make the folders on the ssd and set the mount point of those partitions (that reside on the HDD) to those folders.
[19:08] <DaHoC> lordievader: Thanks, I did not find this in any tutorial but this seems logical to me. To be certain, write operations to e.g. /home then would affect only the normal HDD and not the SSD?
[19:08]  * BluesKaj_ wonders why so many partitions
[19:08] <DaHoC> BluesKaj_: How else to go about it? I only see these 2 options?
[19:09] <lordievader> DaHoC: Jup. Perhaps you should read up on partitions/mounting.
[19:10] <lordievader> DaHoC: BluesKaj_ is right though, you don't need a separate partition for all those folders. Unless you want a really specific setup ;)
[19:10] <DaHoC> lordievader: Ok, how to do it in detail is pretty clear to me.. I just wanted to make sure I have the correct understanding because I did not find it in any tutorial. How can I use a single partition for all these folders then?
[19:11] <lordievader> DaHoC: You can suffice with one partition /. However I can understand that you only want some of the system on the SSD and the rest on the HDD.
[19:13] <DaHoC> lordievader: Yes I agree, I read that it is suggested to put write-intensive paths (like /tmp, /var, /home) out of the SSD and onto the HDD.
[19:13] <lordievader> DaHoC: I can understand that. Then you do have to make multiple partitions.
[19:14] <DaHoC> Why does the symlinks approach not work then? It would avoid write operations on the SSD as well, right?
[19:19] <BluesKaj_> writing to ssds isn't as damaging as rumors say, most new ssds are very resilient now
[19:22] <DaHoC> BluesKaj_: lordievader: So you basically suggest installing the whole Linux onto the SSD?
[19:24] <BluesKaj_> DaHoC, the / on the ssd and /home and swap on the hdd, perhaps ...what do you think lordievader?
[19:29] <DaHoC> BluesKaj_, lordievader: Thank you, that is also an easy way/compromise without many partitions :-)
[19:30] <BluesKaj_> DaHoC, yes one of the knowledgable guys over at #linux suggested that arrangement as well
[19:31] <BluesKaj_> makes for a faster pc apparently, DaHoC
[19:31] <DaHoC> BluesKaj_: ok, thanks :-)
[19:34] <Guest24243> hi
[19:34] <BluesKaj_> hi
[19:35] <Guest24243> i just installed kubuntu on this acer aspire v3 111p, but when rebooting, it tells me there is no bootable device
[19:35] <Guest24243> missing grub install_
[19:36] <Guest24243> that should have been a question mark, i suffer form english keyboard layout by mistake...
[19:37] <BluesKaj_> Guest24243, did you install in UEFI mode ?
[19:37] <lordievader> DaHoC: I'd put /tmp also on the hdd or even better in a tmpfs.
[19:37] <Guest24243> BluesKaj_: i don't know, the device is running in uefi mode,but the installer didn't tell me as far as I noticed
[19:38] <Guest24243> i'm running in the live iso right now
[19:39] <BluesKaj_> ok , try sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[19:39] <Guest24243> i don't know the root password
[19:40] <BluesKaj_> it doesn't matter from the live cd
[19:41] <BluesKaj_> assuming the mbr or equivalent  is on sda of course
[19:41] <Guest24243> grub-install: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'
[19:41] <BluesKaj_> damn gpt
[19:43] <BluesKaj_> are you dual booting windows and kubuntu ?
[19:43] <BluesKaj_> Guest24243, ^
[19:43] <Guest24243> BluesKaj_: i try my best to wipe widows
[19:44] <Guest24243> windows, and i can not make smileys using english keyboard...
[19:44] <BluesKaj_> Guest24243, use gparted live-media, it's the best for cleaning out windows partitions
[19:46] <Guest24243> BluesKaj_: i deleted the windows filesystem, and created a 64G partition for / and the rest for /home
[19:46] <Guest24243> maybe it is just missing a boot flag
[19:47] <BluesKaj_> Guest24243, 64G for / is a bit large, 16G is plenty
[19:48] <BluesKaj_> also 1.5x your RAM for a swap aprtition if you have under 4GRAM
[19:48] <BluesKaj_> swap partition that is
[19:49] <Guest24243> i made a 8g swap, which should be plenty
[19:49] <Guest24243> 4g ram
[19:49] <Guest24243> maybe i should start over...
[19:49] <BluesKaj_> Guest24243, yup, that's fine if you can spare the space
[19:49] <Guest24243> fdisk tells me sda have only /sda1, but in dolphin, there is both partitions
[19:50] <Guest24243> iwould mostly like to make the whole thing boot!
[19:51] <BluesKaj_> yes fdisk only gives numbered partitions
[19:51] <lordievader> Guest24243: Gpt disk?
[19:51] <Guest24243> gparted does not appear to be intstalled
[19:52] <Guest24243> how can i know?
[19:52] <Guest24243> i used the "manual" option of the installer
[19:53] <BluesKaj_> gparted is a small OS that is burned to a cd or created on usb
[19:53] <lordievader> Guest24243: fdisk doesn't support gpt, that could explain why you only see one partition. gdisk is a version of fdisk with gpt support.
[19:53] <Guest24243> i try gdisk :)
[19:53] <lordievader> BluesKaj_: What?
[19:53] <Guest24243> gdisk sees all my partitions
[19:53] <lordievader> BluesKaj_: gparted is a gui around parted.
[19:55] <BluesKaj_> it runs as a live cd OS tho with terminal access etc
[19:55] <BluesKaj_> lordievader,^
[19:55] <Guest24243> how to install grub?
[19:55] <lordievader> BluesKaj_: You are talking about the gparted live cd http://gparted.org/livecd.php
[19:55] <BluesKaj_> Guest24243, ubiquity will install grub when you install kubuntu
[19:56] <lordievader> Guest24243: "sudo grub-install /dev/<hard-disk-in-question>" didn't work?
[19:56] <BluesKaj_> yes , lordievader , that's what I suggested to Guest24243 earlier
[19:56] <Guest24243> BluesKaj_: appearently id didn't, but maybe i just have to retry...
[19:57] <Guest24243> lordievader: nope, it complains about "not being able to get cannonical path of /cow"
[19:57] <TheFakeazneD525> lordievader: but why not KDE Partitionmangler tho
[19:57] <lordievader> Guest24243: Make  sure you have /boot mounted and point the grub installer to that directory.
[19:57] <BluesKaj_> Guest24243, have you repartitoned the installation ?
[19:57] <Guest24243> no
[19:57] <BluesKaj_> ok
[19:58] <Guest24243> the installer seemed to want to make one big partition. I want / to be on a different partition than /home, to be able to reinstall properly
[19:58] <lordievader> Guest24243: You could chroot into your install and install grub from there.
[19:59] <Guest24243> where in the process does the kubuntu installer install grub? it appearently halted after asking me to reboot - maybe i should have been patient at that point?
[20:00] <BluesKaj_> usually right at the finish
[20:00] <Guest24243> ok, thanks a lot - i will just redo the install and make / a bit smaller :)
[20:02] <BluesKaj_> best to prepartition your drive with gparted before installing then use manual partitioning to set the mountpoints for / and /home \
[20:02] <BluesKaj_> during the install procedure
[20:03] <lordievader> BluesKaj_: What's wrong with the partitioner on the live-cd?
[20:03] <TheFakeazneD525> ^
[20:03] <TheFakeazneD525> KDE Partition Manager exists :c
[20:03] <TheFakeazneD525> why not that
[20:03] <BluesKaj_> not as many options
[20:04] <lordievader> BluesKaj_: Options such as? (I agree it isn't as flexible as I'd like to see, but for basic things it does the job)
[20:04] <BluesKaj_> setting the / and /home sizes and the mountpoints
[20:05] <BluesKaj_> but I must admit I haven't used ubiquity to partition any drives in many yrs
[20:06] <Guest24243> it seemed to work fine, my only problem appears to be that grub is not installed
[20:06] <lordievader> BluesKaj_: As long as you don't want encryption/lvm it is quite capable of doing those things.
[20:06] <Guest24243> i just retry :-)
[20:07] <Guest24243> i'll come back in a while, hopefully from an installed system :)
[20:08] <BluesKaj_> lordievader, I always preferred to use gparted before installing an OS, found it easier that's all
[20:09] <lordievader> BluesKaj_: Ofcourse your choice, was just wondering why you recommended gparted over the live-cd partitioner.
[20:11] <BluesKaj_> lordievader, maybe ubiquity is better at partitioning than it used to be
[20:37] <andersl> hello again
[20:37] <andersl> i still can not get a working install
[20:37] <andersl> no bootable device
[20:38] <andersl> can the live iso be used to start a os on the system?
[20:39] <andersl> i was guest<some number> before
[20:41] <andersl> no konqueror package?! :$
[20:42] <lordievader> andersl: Same error when installing grub?
[20:47] <andersl> lordievader: i read, and find the --boot-directory option to grub-install... :)
[20:47] <andersl> i get errors
[20:48] <lordievader> andersl: Okay, I get the feeling that will not solve your problems... actually.
[20:48] <lordievader> andersl: The same or different?
[20:48] <andersl> grub-install: warning: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible.
[20:48] <lordievader> andersl: Ah, that is usefull. The first partition should be a BIOS boot partition.
[20:48] <andersl> grub-install: warning: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
[20:48] <andersl> grub-install: error
[20:49] <andersl> so i need to reinstall AGAIN???
[20:49] <andersl> your installer is no fun:\
[20:49] <TJ-> andersl: Is the system UEFI? If so, it's started in CSM legacy mode and therefore 'grub-pc' needs a ~ 1MB partition to install core.img to
[20:50] <lordievader> andersl: https://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=4#doc_chap3 explains how to make a bios partition.
[20:50] <andersl> TJ-: the system is uefi, but i do not understand the rest
[20:50] <TJ-> andersl: The installers will boot in UEFI *or* Legacy BIOS mode, and that decision is made by the motherboard firmware and you, the user, selecting the boot method via the boot device menu, usually
[20:51] <andersl> the system is in uefi mode, i expected the installer to handle that gracefully
[20:52] <andersl> is it possible to install kubuntu on uefi system?
[20:52] <TJ-> andersl: Some mobo UEFI firmware makes it difficult to differentiate the UEFI and Legacy boot options - usually there will be 2 almost identical entries for the boot device in the boot menu, one for UEFI and the other for Legacy. There is no standard naming to help users though, so you have to try it and see, sometimes
[20:52] <andersl> it is very easy to see here, there is "uefi" or "legacy"
[20:53] <andersl> but the installer appearently fails to ensure this is done correctly
[20:54] <TJ-> andersl: E.g. I've had something clear like "UEFI: USB mass storage" and "BIOS: USB mass storage" but I've also had "USB Mass Storage" and "IDE USB mass storage" - the latter indicating BIOS/Legacy mode boot
[20:54] <andersl> TJ-: you had those where?
[20:54] <TJ-> andersl: It isn't the installers job - it can only work with the mode the motherboard firmware starts the system in
[20:55] <TJ-> andersl: In the UEFI boot device menu of 2 different systems; the first was easy to understand, the second was try-it-and-see
[20:55] <andersl> ... which is uefi.secure boot is of. but how do i get a system that can boot?
[20:55] <andersl> it seems to be the partition table? Do I need to manually create a partition for grub?
[20:55] <TJ-> andersl: If the system starts in UEFI mode the installer will know and will use "grub-efi" package to install the grubx64.efi EFI boot loader into the EFI system partition
[20:56] <andersl> then why doesn't my system boot?
[20:56] <TJ-> andersl: But when the system is started in Legacy/BIOS mode the installer will have to use "grub-pc" which can only install the Legacy BIOS boot code (MBR sector + core.img in a boot-partition for GPT)
[20:57] <andersl> i am in uefi mode
[20:57] <TJ-> andersl: What device are you installing from? USB or DVD?
[20:57] <andersl> usb
[20:57] <TJ-> andersl: OK. When the system starts you can press a key to get a boot device menu, yes?
[20:58] <andersl> TJ-: yes
[21:00] <TJ-> andersl: If the USB device is bootable in both UEFI and BIOS modes, that device should have 2 entries in the boot device menu. I've found sometimes I need to cause the menu to scroll down to find other modes  (and that no scroll-bar is displayed to indicate there are other boot options off-screen)
[21:01] <andersl> TJ-: and?
[21:02] <TJ-> andersl: So, to ensure the OS starts in UEFI mode the correct one of the two boot options is required, and as I said, it's not possible to know ahead of time how the firmware will describe the modes in the menu.
[21:03] <TJ-> andersl: Here's an illustrated guide, in case it helps makes the process clearer: https://iam.tj/kb/pc/boot/
[21:05] <andersl> appearently, the special grub partition is missing from my harddisk
[21:05] <andersl> is therea way to create that?
[21:05] <TJ-> andersl: You're happy for the system to boot in Legacy/BIOS mode?
[21:06] <TJ-> andersl: I thought from what you said earlier you wanted it to boot in UEFI mode
[21:07] <andersl> i do, are those mutually exclusive?
[21:10] <TJ-> andersl: You'll need to ensure the Live ISO/Installer boots in UEFI mode and repair the installed system by removing "grub-pc" and installing "grub-efi"
[21:11] <TJ-> andersl: Or else reinstall after ensuring the system boots the installer in UEFI mode
[21:11] <andersl> i have to reboot it and check the boot menu?
[21:12] <TJ-> andersl: The system boot device menu, yes .. or you could disable CSM Legacy mode in the firmware setup screens so it *can't* start the OS in Legacy mode.
[21:17] <andersl> appearently, my usb stick is NOT booted in uefi mode. But I do NOT understand why. The BIOS is in uefi mode.
[21:17] <andersl> is there another functional way to install kubuntu?
[21:18] <TJ-> andersl: Hmmm, I'm about to try and reproduce your scenario here. How did you write the ISO to the USB mass storage device?
[21:18] <andersl> TJ-: using something odd imagewriter on windows xp. maybe i should download it here and use dd...
[21:19] <andersl> in the meantime, can I install digikam in the live image and use it? I have some images to deliver...
[21:20] <TJ-> andersl: You could; or if you can wait until my Kubuntu ISO download is done, I can confirm it *should* work for you before you tear your hair out :)
[21:20] <TJ-> andersl: provided there's enough RAM, yes
[21:20] <andersl> TJ-: I'll wait, while trying digikam
[21:21] <andersl>  if it is not getting too late, i feel stressed and sad
[21:22] <TJ-> andersl: I can imagine; many system and motherboard manufacturers have made rather a mess of their UEFI deployments, we see this kind of issue very frequently.
[21:23] <TJ-> andersl: It was the rush to ensure they could use the "Certified for Windows 8" Microsoft marketing materials
[21:24] <andersl> TJ-: several users have reported installing ubuntu and mint linux on this device without problems.
[21:24] <andersl> it is sold with linux on it in germany
[21:25] <TJ-> andersl: Well I am assuming the Kubuntu installer is using the same base as the Ubuntu one, therefore it should be able to boot in UEFI or BIOS mode. I'll test it in a VM in a few moments, just got to brew some tea
[21:27] <andersl> TJ-: highly appreciated!:)
[21:35] <TJ-> andersl: Kubuntu ISO will boot in UEFI mode, if the system starts it in that mode
[21:36] <TJ-> andersl: It'll first show a regular GRUB menu with "Start Ubuntu", "OEM install (for manufacturers)", and "Check disk for defects"
[21:37] <andersl> TJ-: I have that menu as well
[21:38] <TJ-> andersl: This one? https://iam.tj/projects/misc/kubuntu-ISO-uefi-boot.png
[21:38] <andersl> my only problem is that after the install, does not boot, system says "no bootable device"
[21:38] <andersl> exactly
[21:40] <andersl> i do not know when I will find time to fight this again...
[21:40] <TJ-> andersl: OK., well that's good. Does the disk it is installed to contain data that has to be kept, or is the installer able to over-write the disk?
[21:41] <andersl> so far, the installer overwrites the disk. I
[21:41] <andersl> 'm downloading images to a usb hdd...
[21:41] <TJ-> andersl: OK, so it will do two very important things: 1) create a GUID Partition Table, and in that a FAT32 EFI System Partition
[21:43] <andersl> TJ-: how can i see if that has happened?
[21:44] <TJ-> andersl: It'll also install the "grub-efi" package, which will be used to install the GRUB EFI boot loader in the EFI SP - the reference you made much earlier about GRUB complaining about a missing BIOS boot partition only occurs if the system is in BIOS mode -
[21:44] <TJ-> andersl: I'm doing a test install into a VM image now just to be sure it happens as it should
[21:44] <andersl> i don't appear to have a grub-efi command
[21:45] <TJ-> andersl: No, it's not a command  - it is a package that is installed which contains the correct dependencies to have all the correct EFI tools instead of BIOS tools
[21:48] <andersl> i think the EFI partition is missing here
[21:48] <andersl> maybe it should be created by hand if I use manual partitioning?
[21:48] <TJ-> andersl: "gdisk -l /dev/sda" will list GPT of  a device
[21:48] <TJ-> andersl: Yes, it should
[21:48] <TJ-> andersl: Did you use manual partitioning?
[21:49] <andersl> there is my mistake then
[21:49] <andersl> yes, because the auto just would create one huge partition
[21:49] <andersl> I need /home to be separate, to feel safe :)
[21:50] <TJ-> andersl: It'd actually create 2: the ESP and another .... I'd recommend using LVM though, since you can then (re)allocate space in the volume group and use multiple Logical Volumes, for things like /home/, /var/, and whatever else you need
[21:51] <andersl> guided LVMmode in the installer?
[21:51] <TJ-> andersl: ha! installer ran out of memory in the VM - I gave it 1GB, should have been enough !
[21:51] <andersl> :\
[21:51] <TJ-> andersl: I'd hope it's intelligent enough but it might need Manual override :)
[21:52] <andersl> i try that next time , likely tomorrow - I need to make a few photos, and then go to bed...
[21:54] <TJ-> I'll test it in the VM, if I find anything unexpected I'll leave you a Memo on here
[21:54] <andersl> thanks :)
[21:55] <TJ-> andersl: I'm trying the "Guided - use entire disk and set up LVM"
[21:55] <andersl> that is what Ithought I'd do
[21:57] <TJ-> andersl: I started it from the "Try Kubuntu" desktop so that when the installer is finished I can use the live environment to check it, and to reassign space in the VG to add a /home/ LV
[21:57] <andersl> i installed from the live system last time
[21:58] <TJ-> andersl: That would make it impossible to change the VG allocation before the reboot. I'd recommend the "Try Kubuntu" approach
[22:40] <andersl> guided whole disk + LVM just creates one giga partition :\
[22:52] <TJ-> andersl: funny you should pop up - I've just completed the guide of how to create the /home/ :  http://iam.tj/projects/misc/kubuntu-installer-LVM-separate-home.sh
[22:54] <andersl> hm, i try manually again, without lvm. Next time, maybe.
[22:54] <andersl> Do you know if I can find a konqueror package for kubuntu somewhere?
[22:55] <TJ-> andersl: It's simple to shrink the root file-system so you can add an LV for /home/
[22:55] <andersl> but why?
[22:59] <TJ-> andersl: Because as I said earlier, the Guided install allocates the entire disk to the root file-system.
[22:59] <andersl> Ok, I can appreciate that :)
[23:00] <TJ-> andersl: The alternative is to do it all through manual partitioning, of course, but its easy to miss a step that way
[23:01] <andersl> I hope i didnt miss a step this time...
[23:01] <TJ-> andersl: The script I wrote is the exact commands; with comments for each step. Use it as a check on what you want to do
[23:04] <andersl> i try to find a way to save it to a safe place...
[23:04] <TJ-> andersl: I won't remove it from my server, so you can always return to it
[23:11] <andersl> so, now I am in the installed system :-))
[23:12] <andersl> adding the EFI partition was the missing thing'
[23:23] <andersl> I appear to be running kde 4.13.3 or so, is there a way to get 4.14 without ending up in a package hell?
[23:24] <valorie> andersl: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.14
[23:24] <valorie> that is a devel provided PPA and very reliable in my experience
[23:27] <valorie> I'm using 4.14 without incident
[23:48] <andersl> valorie: thanks :) will adding this mean an update will be offered on my system?
[23:48] <TheFakeazneD525> andersl: yeah
[23:48] <TheFakeazneD525> run apt-get update and then run an upgrade
[23:48] <TheFakeazneD525> I like muon update manager :)
[23:50] <andersl> ok, thanks
[23:50] <andersl> tomorrow, i have to get some sleep. You have been very helpful in her! :)
[23:52] <valorie> andersl: that's why we're here!
[23:54] <TheFakeazneD525> valorie: so are we backed fully by Blue Sys, or partially by both Canonical and Blue?


[14:32] <mup> Issue operator#836 closed: Provide support for Juju secrets <Created by mthaddon> <Closed by pengale> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/issues/836>


[15:08] <blackstar> Hi all.
[15:10] <blackstar> I have problems while watching videos. some stripes appear while I watch any type of video or I move through the web
[15:10] <blackstar> Do you have any solution to it?
[15:12] <Kumool> change to the proprietary driver?
[15:12] <blackstar> Yes, I did
[15:20] <Kumool> didnt care much about the problem
[16:24] <tempest> Good afternoon (from the UK) hope you are all well
[23:19] <xubuntu52w> Ok total newbie......an acquaintance asked me load Ubuntu and use Live Linux Distro to identify some issues I am having with wireless speed on windows 10. Question how do I download or access Live Linux Distro?


[17:47] <keith_> Hello
[17:48] <keith_> can anyone help with Xubuntu ,, slow internet speed
[18:32] <merlin_> hello
[19:33] <kviten> Hello anybody, guys. After I installed VirtualBox, I got that my core has 30-40% load. In process manager I see process "aptd" with 25% and nothing other, that use core. What is this? Just installed Xubuntu yesterday.
[19:35] <krytarik> !apt | kviten
[19:44] <xubuntu17d> Join
[19:44] <xubuntu17d> need help with slow connection
[19:45] <xubuntu17d> anyone in here?


[22:28] <zkriesse> cjohnston: ping
[22:28] <cjohnston> ?
[22:29] <zkriesse> cjohnston: Can you kinda get/give me some pointers on this team?
[22:29] <zkriesse> I asked newz2000 but he/she said talk to you
[22:29] <cjohnston> explain what you mean
[22:30] <newz2000> hey zkriesse (I'm a he, my name is Matt Nuzum) ;-)
[22:31] <zkriesse> newz2000: Oh sorry
[22:31] <newz2000> No sweat ;-)
[22:31] <zkriesse> newz2000: I'm a tiny bit busy can you (if you remember that is) explain to cjohnston what you and I talked about/what my questions were?
[22:32] <newz2000> sure
[22:32] <zkriesse> ty
[22:47] <zkriesse> newz2000: ?
[22:47] <newz2000> hey zkriesse. We're doing some planning 1 on 1 to see what tasks are on our plate currently
[22:48] <zkriesse> newz2000: Ok I just was wondering what happened
[22:48]  * zkriesse goes back to lovely ol' college homework
[22:50] <cjohnston> zkriesse: ok.. heres something
[22:50] <zkriesse> ja?
[22:50] <cjohnston> Go through the bugs on lp..
[22:51] <cjohnston> Please don't touch anything that is against light-*-theme (* = base, django, drupal, wordpress)
[22:51] <cjohnston> Any bugs that are no longer relevant.. tag them as obsolete, and one of us will go through and verify that they are obsolete and get rid of them
[22:52] <cjohnston> The problems right now are:
[22:52] <cjohnston> We don't have a webmaster... So we don't have anyone to fix something that isnt emergent
[22:52] <zkriesse> Ok one, I was kinda just looking for info as I'm already involved with a few projects....but this sounds easy enough so...
[22:52] <cjohnston> There is a release in... 5 days.. so EVERYONE is busy with that
[22:52] <zkriesse> LP Page?
[22:53] <cjohnston> ubuntu-website
[22:54] <zkriesse> ok
[22:54] <zkriesse> Back to bugs
[22:54] <zkriesse> (Requested to join btw)
[22:58] <zkriesse> Oh and does this "team" have a wiki page?
[22:59] <zkriesse> nm found the wiki page
[22:59] <newz2000> zkriesse: /Website
[22:59] <zkriesse> oi, does that ever need updating/re-formating ba
[22:59] <zkriesse> "bad
[22:59] <cjohnston> The team is a limited access team due to permissions it gives
[23:00] <zkriesse> understood
[23:00] <newz2000> zkriesse: we do most of our communication here and launchpad. If you want to add some organization work there, go for it
[23:00] <newz2000> as you can see, it was made in haste
[23:00] <newz2000> if you want to make a big diff, the launchpad stuff would be a huge help.
[23:00] <cjohnston> bugs are more important
[23:01] <newz2000> Some of those bugs are quite old and we're short on resources. I suspect there are 30 − 50 that are obsolete now that we have the new site
[23:01] <cjohnston> zkriesse: if you feel that something is SUPER important... (i.e. a critical bug), mark it needs-review and tell me about it
[23:01] <zkriesse> Ok so what exactly do ya need/want me to do
[23:01] <zkriesse> Just check bugs and their repsective dates?
[23:01] <newz2000> If you start with the oldest ones and see if they're obsolete, then tag them and we can close them quickly
[23:02] <newz2000> Anything before May of this year is questionable
[23:02] <zkriesse> Ok
[23:02] <zkriesse> What's the but page?
[23:02] <newz2000> bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website I think
[23:02] <zkriesse> I went to the bugs tab but there's like, one bug listed
[23:03] <cjohnston> 183 bugs
[23:03] <newz2000> oh, I have 184. There must be a private one. :-(
[23:03] <zkriesse> Probably as Im not a member of the group
[23:03] <cjohnston> zkriesse lookat a bug, find out if the bug is still valid.. if it is, move on, if its not, add the obsolete tag
[23:03] <cjohnston> you dont need to be
[23:04] <cjohnston> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bugs
[23:04] <cjohnston> I even have a freaking bug assigned to me
[23:04] <cjohnston> boo
[23:04] <cjohnston> lol
[23:04] <zkriesse> lol
[23:04] <cjohnston> and i have no permissions
[23:05] <zkriesse> Huh
[23:06] <zkriesse> Well I would eventually like to join the team. Like, really join the team
[23:06] <cjohnston> Joining the team wont give you much as a non-coder..
[23:06] <zkriesse> I've got admin permissions on the /community docs and wiki.ubuntu.com so Ive got some knowledge or do's and dont's
[23:06] <cjohnston> We just can't give out access to all of our branches at random
[23:07] <zkriesse> Completely understandable
[23:07] <zkriesse> Just a future endeavor
[23:07] <newz2000> zkriesse: You won't get much karma from ubuntu-website
[23:07] <newz2000> There are only a few people in the team and that only to do stuff like merge proposals
[23:07] <zkriesse> If I cared about noteriety do you think Id be doing free-lance stuff? Lol
[23:08] <newz2000> You never know. I'm amazed at what some people will do for Karma. ;-)
[23:08] <zkriesse> I mean why do any of us do this stuff (Ubuntu work)? Because we want to
[23:08] <newz2000> indeed
[23:08] <zkriesse> At least I do anyway...don't really care about the karma part
[23:08] <newz2000> and I appreciate greatly everyone who contributes
[23:08] <zkriesse> That's just a number
[23:09] <cjohnston> zkriesse: if you do truly contribute to the team, we can provide you with backing as far as your help.. which gets you more than just beign a team member
[23:09] <zkriesse> Indeed
[23:10] <zkriesse> Ok so I'll take a look through the bugs, if they're really old mark them as Foo and if they're semi old but not WAY old mark them as?
[23:10] <zkriesse> Just want to do this right
[23:10] <newz2000> well, don't just go by the date, check if they're invalid
[23:10] <cjohnston> if the bug is relevant.. leave it alone
[23:10] <cjohnston> if the bug is irrelevant (i.e. the bug says a link doesnt work, but it does) add a tag "obsolete"
[23:10] <newz2000> the older they are the greater chance they'll be irrelevant now with the new site
[23:11] <zkriesse> How do I know if the bug is relevant/irelevant?
[23:11] <newz2000> well, for example,
[23:11] <newz2000> it may say, "please add my russian community website ot the community page"
[23:11] <newz2000> but the community page no longer lists all the teams
[23:11] <newz2000> so it's invalid
[23:13] <zkriesse> so this bug 236154 is invalid?
[23:14] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 236154 in ubuntu (and 1 other project) "Database errors on www.ubuntu.com when searching (heat: 4)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236154
[23:14] <newz2000> yeah, good catch
[23:14] <zkriesse> Ok think Im getting the idea
[23:14] <zkriesse> sorry if Im annoying with the questions
[23:15] <newz2000> zkriesse: I'm happy to be annoyed in order to get some extra help with bugs
[23:15] <zkriesse> lol
[23:15] <zkriesse> :D
[23:15] <zkriesse> Ok Ill try to do some of this tonight/throughout the week
[23:15] <newz2000> thanks a bunch, that'll be a huge help
[23:15] <zkriesse> Sure
[23:16] <zkriesse> Oh and one more question
[23:23] <newz2000> zkriesse: sure, what's up?
[23:30] <zkriesse> newz2000: Sorry I disappeared like that
[23:30] <zkriesse> newz2000: My other question is may I edit/improve the Wiki page for this group?
[23:31] <newz2000> zkriesse: I have no problem with that provided you use caution. I especially want to keep the old countdown banner pages and the localization stuff
[23:31] <zkriesse> Of course
[23:32] <zkriesse> It'd probably be just minor spell/sentence structure checks, adding proper section headers and so on
[23:32] <zkriesse> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuYouth is the team that' I've formatted
[23:32] <zkriesse> gotta fly
[23:32] <zkriesse> back soon
[23:45] <daker> newz2000, bug 236154 is obsolete
[23:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 236154 in ubuntu (and 1 other project) "Database errors on www.ubuntu.com when searching (heat: 3)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/236154
[23:46] <daker> actually  u.c uses Google Search Appliance


[03:16] <n1cky_> mariogrip: please make ubports/android default branch "ubp-5.1"
[03:16] <n1cky_> currently it's 5.1.1
[03:47] <n1cky_> mariogrip: do you have canonical.com in your .gitconfig to resolve via ssh even when https is specified?
[03:47] <n1cky_> because I cannot check out a lot of the platform/external stuff without getting a bunch of
[03:47] <n1cky_> error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 503
[03:48] <n1cky_> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[03:48] <n1cky_> and google says that this has to do with large files over HTTP
[03:48] <n1cky_> it would make sense to me that you wouldn't see this if you resolve and access phablet resources in a different way.
[04:37] <n1cky_> whether or not others are having a similar issue, I was able to fix my repo sync problems by altering the manifest to use ssh for every host, meaning that my ssh key needed to be on all of the repos.
[04:37] <n1cky_> for the most part that meant github, which was easy.
[04:37] <n1cky_> i also had to register for the gerrit for hesperidium.canonical.com
[04:37] <n1cky_> and even if you register for googlesource.com gerrit, you do not get ssh checkouts. but that server wasn't giving me problems, canonical was.
[08:28] <pstolowski> mardy, hey, the failing test you asked about yesterday may not actually be a random failure, we see this now consistently on armhf & arm64 too; this will need investigating
[08:42] <mardy> pstolowski: thanks, meanwhile I'll disable the tests in our silo then
[09:09] <marcusto_> mardy: is this what you're seeing? (process:10857): accounts-glib-WARNING **: Failed to get D-Bus connection (Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY)
[09:10] <marcustomlinson> mardy: we're getting that on unity-js-scopes. Also just arm: https://code.launchpad.net/~abreu-alexandre/unity-js-scopes/not-handled-activation-query-default/+merge/288032/comments/735383
[09:11] <marcustomlinson> mardy: I assume this is that same issue we were talking about with click scope?
[09:12] <mardy> marcustomlinson: the last build which I started seemed to end successfully
[09:13] <marcustomlinson> mardy: if it helps at all, our tests were passing 9th Feb, then first seen to fail 3rd March. They consistently fail now
[09:13] <mardy> marcustomlinson: the failure was this one: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/247394491/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-arm64.unity-scopes-shell_0.5.6+15.04.20160310-0ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[09:15] <marcustomlinson> mardy: ok then I guess I'm asking a new question. any idea why I'm getting "(process:10857): accounts-glib-WARNING **: Failed to get D-Bus connection (Cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 $DISPLAY)" on armhf and arm64?
[09:16] <marcustomlinson> mardy: you can see all the errors at the bottom of: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-js-scopes-wily-armhf-ci/86/consoleFull
[09:16] <marcustomlinson> mardy: this causes our test scope to crash, hence failing the test
[09:18] <mardy> marcustomlinson: libaccounts-glib requires dbus, but it always did... it's weird that you get the failure only now
[09:19] <mardy> marcustomlinson: usually I run my tests under xvfb and dbus-test-runner
[09:19] <marcustomlinson> mardy: something in here must have caused it seeing that it's the only change that occured between those dates: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ci-train-bot/libaccounts-glib/libaccounts-glib-ubuntu-xenial-landing-066/revision/194
[09:20] <mardy> marcustomlinson: nope, taht cannot be: look at the changes in the libaccounts-glib/ directory, you'll see that they are not related to dbus
[09:20] <mardy> all other changes are in tests
[09:20] <mardy> marcustomlinson: maybe something changes in dbus or dbus-test-runner (are you using it?)
[09:21] <mardy> s/changes/changed/
[09:22] <marcustomlinson> mardy: our only dependancy for tests is the scopes test harness. Perhaps there.
[09:22] <marcustomlinson> mardy: what happened with the errors you were seeing on click scope? fixed?
[09:23] <mardy> marcustomlinson: not yet, but I understood the issue and I'm working on that
[09:24] <mardy> marcustomlinson: if you have some time, an early (and rough) review on the branches attached to bug 1554040 would be nice
[09:24] <mardy> marcustomlinson: they are still marked as wip, because I'm just about to test them
[09:25] <marcustomlinson> mardy: ok
[10:04] <davidcalle> mardy: quick question about scopes previews, would it be a big deal in terms of performance to switch from Image to AnimatedImage for images in previews? Has it been considered?
[10:04] <mardy> davidcalle: I guess the nick completion betrayed you? :-)
[10:05] <mardy> davidcalle: at least, I'm afraid I'm not the right person to answer this, I have no idea :-)
[10:07] <davidcalle> mardy: oh my mistake, I thought you had a hand in this :) I guess it's for tsdgeos then
[10:08] <tsdgeos> davidcalle: animated image as in?
[10:10] <davidcalle> tsdgeos: if I'm not mistaken, this is a QtQuick component that deals with animated gifs (and supposedly svgs) but also works fine with non-animated image files.
[10:10] <tsdgeos> davidcalle: so you want animated gifs in the scopes'
[10:11] <davidcalle> tsdgeos: that's the idea, yes :)
[10:11] <ogra_> to improve performance and battery life ?
[10:11] <ogra_> :P
[10:11] <tsdgeos> can't tell how much the impact would be tbh
[10:11] <davidcalle> ogra_: snappy will fix it
[10:11] <ogra_> indeed !
[10:12] <davidcalle> tsdgeos: ok, just wondering if it had been looked at. I'll file a bug to start a discussion.
[10:44] <Mirv> copy-paste in browser \o/ landing now...
[10:44] <Mirv> where is oSoMoN when one wants to thank him
[10:45] <abdullah> hello
[10:45] <abdullah> mario are you there?
[10:57] <[tj]> moin
[11:01] <abdullah> anyone there?
[11:12] <keesj> hi
[11:12] <popey> hi
[11:30] <[tj]> does ubuntu touch run on a pi2?
[11:40] <k1l_> [tj]: yes. there are snappy core images or a ubuntu mate one.
[11:41] <k1l_> [tj]: sorry, missed the ubuntu-touch in that question :/
[11:42] <k1l_> i dont think there is an image for the rpi2 since ubuntu-touch focuses on smartphones and tablets. but technically it should run.
[11:43] <abdullah> hello
[11:48] <k1l_> hi
[11:50] <abdullah> hey dude
[11:50] <abdullah> need some help
[11:51] <abdullah> i am trying to sync ubproject
[11:51] <abdullah> and i am getting this error
[11:51] <abdullah> Fetching projects:  99% (176/177)  error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 503 fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly error: RPC failed; result=22, HTTP code = 503 fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
[11:52] <[tj]> k1l_: I want to add ubuntu touch to a build bot
[11:53] <[tj]> I work on a networking project and it would be nice to add phone support to our builds
[11:53] <[tj]> and ubuntu touch is nice and close to linux
[11:55] <abdullah> k1l?
[11:55] <abdullah> you there?
[11:57] <k1l_> abdullah: sorry dont know. maybe just try again?
[11:57] <popey> abdullah: where you syncing from?
[11:57] <popey> sometimes the server gets overloaded and needs restarting
[11:59] <abdullah> k1l i am syncing this "repo init -u https://github.com/ubports/android -b ubp-5.1"
[11:59] <abdullah> don't know what the problem is
[11:59] <abdullah> its happening from past couple of hours now
[12:00] <abdullah> it just gets stuck at that last part only
[12:02] <abdullah> looks like the branch i was using is the old one
[12:02] <abdullah> i am trying with the latest branch now
[12:02] <popey> abdullah: what guide are you following?
[12:03] <abdullah> this one https://wiki2.ubports.com/wiki/Building-ubports-source
[12:03] <abdullah> "repo init -u https://github.com/ubports/android -b ubp-5.1.1" this one seems to be the latest branch right?
[12:05] <popey> no idea, sorry.
[12:06] <abdullah> its okay dude
[12:17] <ogra_> [tj], you mean yu want to run a headless install on a rpi ?
[12:20] <ogra_> (based on ubuntu-touch)
[12:51] <[tj]> ogra_: sure
[12:51] <[tj]> I just want to build and run a test suite on something
[12:51] <[tj]> but a phone isn't very useful hardware
[12:52] <ogra_> well, then perhaps take a look at snappy
[12:52] <[tj]> link?
[12:52] <ogra_> it is the phone systems evolution
[12:53] <ogra_> (but yet rather ofcused on headless systems)
[12:53] <[tj]> cool
[12:53] <dobey> [tj]: just make a chroot then; fwiw, we don't build packages directly on phones either
[12:53] <ogra_> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/start/
[13:00] <abdullah> hey there guys
[13:01] <[tj]> dobey: cool, that can be quite easy to roll out
[14:23] <timeax> Hi peoples i'm tryiing to build ubuntu touch fir my xiaomi mi2s but at some point it says kernel sources found but no configuration was defined pleaseadd the TARGET_KERNEL_CONFIG variable to your boardconfig.mk file
[14:24] <dobey> so do that :)
[14:24] <timeax> I found the boardconfig mk file but where i have to add this ?
[14:26] <dobey> i don't know exactly. i haven't imported a new device into the tree
[14:26] <timeax> I try adding it to the top
[14:26] <timeax> In the file there are some headers called
[14:28] <timeax> Flags, architecture,krait optimization,wifi,ecc but i dont find any about kernel
[15:28] <mardy> dobey: hi! Silo 79 (https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1049) is now ready for testing, works reasonably well. When you feel bored, you can test it :-)
[15:28] <dobey> mardy: ok
[16:04] <n1cky_> how does telephony work on Android / Ubuntu Touch?
[16:05] <n1cky_> Presumably the modem creates some kind of hardware interrupt which goes to the kernel
[16:05] <n1cky_> and then passed to the HAL?
[16:20] <dobey> n1cky_: ofono just talks to the modem exposed by the HAL in the device tree in ubuntu i think
[16:21] <n1cky_> dobey: interesting
[16:22] <n1cky_> what copyright should I use when adding support for new boards?
[16:22] <n1cky_> Android uses Apache, Cyanogenmod uses? Ubuntu touch uses?
[16:23] <dobey> that's license, not copyright
[16:23]  * n1cky_ nods
[16:23] <dobey> not sure what you're asking exactly though; the device tree already has a license presumably
[16:23] <n1cky_> nevermind.
[16:27] <n1cky_> why does cyanogenmod call their shamu lunch combo "aosp_shamu-userdebug"
[16:27] <n1cky_> just a matter of not renaming, or I'm missing something?
[16:28] <n1cky_> bbiab
[16:30] <dobey> i don't know
[16:31] <dobey> the hammerhead and mako itmes are the same though
[17:08] <n1cky_> mariogrip: ping
[17:15] <abdullah> hey mario you there?
[17:41] <abdullah> anyone there?
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> no
[17:43] <abdullah> lol
[17:43] <abdullah> are you from ubuntu touch support?
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> no, im just a happy user
[17:43] <abdullah> oh! alright cool
[17:43] <abdullah> well i need some help if you can
[17:44] <abdullah> have you used this guide?
[17:44] <abdullah> https://wiki2.ubports.com/wiki/Building-ubports-source
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> no sorry, porting is not my skill
[17:45] <abdullah> oh! damn okay
[17:52] <abdullah> any ubuntu touch support guy here?
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> abdullah: i think its best to ask your question here, and be real patient :p
[17:53] <abdullah> oh! well okay :D
[17:53] <abdullah> i have synced the source code of ubuntu touch using this guide "https://wiki2.ubports.com/wiki/Building-ubports-source"
[17:54] <abdullah> the source code downloaded is around 14GB so i know its not fully downloaded whenever i run repo sync the sync finishes without downloading any more source
[17:54] <abdullah> it says at the end sync done 100%
[17:55] <abdullah> so how can i fully download the source code? any idea?
[17:57] <dobey> if it says it's 100% in sync then it sounds like you have the code; i don't know what more you're expecting there?
[17:57] <abdullah> the folders are not complete
[17:57] <dobey> how so?
[17:57] <abdullah> i mean in vendor folder there should be cm folder
[17:57] <abdullah> i don't know really
[17:57] <dobey> what vendor folder? explain what it is you expect to see and are not seeing
[17:58] <abdullah> i am using this link as a guide https://wiki2.ubports.com/wiki/Building-ubports-source
[17:58] <abdullah> its based on cm right?
[17:58] <dobey> it's based on aosp
[17:58] <abdullah> what?
[17:58] <abdullah> really?
[17:59] <abdullah> the guy called mario said its based on cm12.1
[17:59] <dobey> well ok
[17:59] <dobey> then it's cm12.1
[17:59] <dobey> ubports is mariogrip's baby
[17:59] <dobey> but you still have yet to actuall explain what you think the problem is
[17:59] <abdullah> aha! now i understand what's the problem
[18:00] <abdullah> well cm source code is around 30GB and this one is half of it its missing files to compile a build
[18:01] <dobey> well no; this just doesn't pull every possible device tree that cyanogen supports
[18:02] <abdullah> i know that i know
[18:02] <dobey> as i understand it, anyway
[18:03] <abdullah> but even if i try to compile for one plus one which is supported it won't even compile for that
[18:03] <abdullah> please see the error here which i face while building for one plus one
[18:03] <abdullah> https://www.zerobin.net/?f77530fecc4da92a#1DCFKqV/QuYbD1ddlh7bMbLaimuO8P5yjJK+0yKU4fg=
[18:04] <dobey> well i don't know what you did wrong; ask mariogrip when he's around
[18:05] <abdullah> alright sure thanks for looking into my problem
[18:05] <abdullah> is there anyway to see when he is online on this chat?
[18:08] <dobey> mariogrip: ^^ abdullah is having some issues with the ubports documentation and trying to build the tree, when you're back around
[19:17] <n1cky_> abdullah: what did you try to run there?
[19:28] <aashu> Please help me with this issue paste.debian.net/414270
[19:29] <dobey> aashu: replace "utopic" with "vivid"
[20:00] <abdullah> nicky: i tried to run the lunch command
[20:11] <aashu> PLEASE HELP ME WITH THIS ISSUE - paste.debian.net/414278
[20:12] <dobey> aashu: I GAVE YOU THE ANSWER ALREADY
[20:13] <dobey> !patience | aashu
[20:14] <aashu> BOTH ARE DIFFERENT PROBLEMS - please check once more
[20:14] <n1cky_> aashu needs to remember there's someone on the other end of the keyboard.
[20:14] <dobey> !capslock
[20:15] <n1cky_> They were pming me yesterday saying that "if you tell me what to type, I will do it."
[20:15] <n1cky_> to which I said, hey, I have work to do myself.
[20:15] <n1cky_> to which aashu said something about my "precious time."
[20:16] <n1cky_> so I /ignored.
[20:16] <dobey> wow
[20:20] <abdullah> mario are you there yet?
[20:20] <n1cky_> abdullah: maybe i can help
[20:20] <n1cky_> whats up
[20:21] <abdullah> hey nicky
[20:21] <abdullah> didn't i already answered you above?
[20:21] <abdullah> anyways i wanted to say i am trying to sync
[20:21] <abdullah> ubport project
[20:22] <abdullah> using this guide "https://wiki2.ubports.com/wiki/Building-ubports-source"
[20:22] <abdullah> i was able to sync the code but i guess it didn't sync fully
[20:22] <abdullah> because the one which i have synced is around 14 GB
[20:23] <abdullah> and to my knowledge it should be around 30s
[20:23] <abdullah> now when i try to sync it says sync done 100%
[20:23] <abdullah> anyways i thought perhaps its really done
[20:23] <popey> 14GB here
[20:23] <abdullah> so for testing purposes i started to build for one plus one which is officially supportted
[20:24] <abdullah> and it gave me some errors saying folders and files are missing
[20:24] <abdullah> which i was pretty sure about before the ywere
[20:24] <abdullah> they were"
[20:24] <n1cky_> cd /path/to/phablet/.repo/manifests && git remote show origin
[20:24] <abdullah> okay
[20:25] <abdullah> remote origin   Fetch URL: https://github.com/ubports/android   Push  URL: https://github.com/ubports/android   HEAD branch: ubp-5.1.1   Remote branches:     4.4.2         tracked     master        tracked     phablet-5.1.1 tracked     ubp-4.4.4     tracked     ubp-5.1       tracked     ubp-5.1.1     tracked   Local branch configured for 'git pull':     default merges with remote ubp-5.1
[20:25] <abdullah> oops
[20:25] <abdullah> let me use zero bin
[20:25] <n1cky_> thats fine
[20:25] <abdullah> okay
[20:25] <abdullah> soo? what do you think the problem is?
[20:26] <n1cky_> as far as i can tell you are on the correct branch
[20:26] <abdullah> well its not building then
[20:26] <abdullah> i don't even have cm folder inside vendor folder which i should have
[20:26] <n1cky_> try "repo sync -j1 --no-clone-bundle --fetch-submodules --force-broken --force-sync"
[20:27] <abdullah> alright
[20:27] <n1cky_> what makes you think you should have vendor/cm?
[20:27] <n1cky_> If you look at manifest.xml, it's nowhere in there.
[20:27] <abdullah> it says so when i am building
[20:28] <abdullah> have a look
[20:28] <abdullah> https://www.zerobin.net/?f77530fecc4da92a#1DCFKqV/QuYbD1ddlh7bMbLaimuO8P5yjJK+0yKU4fg=
[20:30] <abdullah> so what do you think of the error?
[20:30] <abdullah> hey the branch ubp-5.1.1 is the latest one? can i use that one?
[20:30] <n1cky_> Either add the cyanogenmod sources to the manifest file or comment out those inheretances in cm.mk
[20:30] <n1cky_> The newest in terms of date pushed is 5.1
[20:31] <n1cky_> I do not know, honestly, what mariogrip is doing with all that,.
[20:31] <abdullah> so what is 5.1.1 is for?
[20:31] <abdullah> oh! well
[20:32] <n1cky_> fwiw you're going to have that same issue with ubp-5.1.1, look at the manifest
[20:33] <abdullah> i was syncing 5.1.1 to see whether the issue is there or not but it didn't sync always gave me http 503 errors
[20:33] <n1cky_> I had this same issue
[20:33] <abdullah> sync issue?
[20:33] <n1cky_> yeah. If you make a gitconfig that resolves them via ssh they go away immediately.
[20:34] <abdullah> oh! how do i make them? sorry i am new to this stuff
[20:34] <n1cky_> Any canonical folk^^^^^^^^ read this. Something is wrong with your gerrit server serving HTTP git clones
[20:34] <n1cky_> I think it has to do with nginx
[20:35] <n1cky_> https://confluence.atlassian.com/stashkb/git-push-fails-fatal-the-remote-end-hung-up-unexpectedly-282988530.html
[20:36] <abdullah> this is server side issue so they have to fix it right?
[20:36] <n1cky_> you can try "git config --global http.postBuffer 157286400"
[20:36] <popey> n1cky_: thanks, I'll poke IS
[20:37] <n1cky_> but it did not fix anything for me.
[20:37] <popey> for future reference, if gerrit borks, jump in #canonical-sysadmin to ask for it to be fixed :)
[20:37] <n1cky_> Make a gerrit account and clone via ssh and you'll have no problems, abdullah
[20:37] <n1cky_> popey: good to know. :)
[20:38] <abdullah> alright, thanks for the tip nicky
[20:38] <popey> have asked for it to be restarted
[20:38] <n1cky_> if there's a place I can file a ticket or something, let me know
[20:39] <popey> just pounce on that irc channel usually is enough, poke whoever is vanguard
[20:54] <popey> abdullah: is it working now?
[20:55] <abdullah> nope
[20:55] <popey> i mean, the repo sync?
[20:55] <popey> working for me.
[20:55] <abdullah> oh! yeah the sync is fine now
[20:55] <popey> ok, thanks
[20:55] <abdullah> welcome
[21:21] <n1cky_> am I legally allowed to host https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/drivers somewhere on git so that I can work it into repo?
[21:21] <n1cky_> (are these on git somewhere?)
[21:26] <popey> it's pretty clear
[21:26] <popey> "These files are for use only on your personal devices and may not be redistributed by you or used in any way except as specifically set forth in the license terms enclosed in each individual download"
[21:26] <popey> so i guess read the license :)
[21:33] <n1cky_> Who are The Muppets?
[21:35] <popey> que?
[21:35] <dobey> the ones owned by Jim Hensen Co?
[21:36] <n1cky_> https://github.com/themuppets
[21:36] <popey> no idea
[21:37] <n1cky_> ahh, I get it now. I'm hip.
[21:49] <n1cky_> So when Android boot it goes Bootloader -> Kernel -> SysV Init -> Zygote, their rc.d system, which -> starts dalvik -> apps launch -> booted
[21:49] <n1cky_> When Ubuntu Phone boots it goes
[21:50] <n1cky_> Bootloader -> Kernel -> systemd -> service that starts lxc container -> HAL initialized -> After=foo.target telephone.target -> booted?
[22:00] <abdullah> hey the http errors are back again lol
[22:03] <popey> ugh
[22:05] <abdullah> is mario back yet?
[22:14] <n1cky_> abdullah: can you try something for me?
[22:14] <abdullah> sure, tell me
[22:15] <n1cky_> edit /path/to/phablet/.repo/manifest.xml
[22:15] <n1cky_> change code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com to <IP_ADDRESS>:29418
[22:15] <n1cky_> and try to clone again.
[22:16] <abdullah> ill change fetch and review both right?
[22:17] <n1cky_> yeah
[22:17] <abdullah> okay done, syncing now
[22:18] <n1cky_> let me know if it fails again, i have another method that i'm certain will work if this doesn't.
[22:18] <abdullah> sure...
[22:18] <abdullah> umm fatal: repository 'https://github.com/ubports/<IP_ADDRESS>:29418/aosp/platform/external/libcxx/' not found
[22:18] <abdullah> i am getting that
[22:19] <n1cky_> ... what did you do?
[22:19] <n1cky_> it's the first entry in /path/to/phablet/.repo/manifest.xml
[22:19] <n1cky_> <remote name="phablet" ...
[22:19] <abdullah> yeah that's what i did
[22:19] <n1cky_> fetch="https://<IP_ADDRESS>:29418"
[22:19] <n1cky_> review is same
[22:20] <abdullah> damn that's what i asked and you said change both lol
[22:20] <n1cky_> revision is "refs/tags/android-5.1.1_r5"
[22:20] <n1cky_> no, i mean review is the same IP hard-coded
[22:20] <abdullah> okay so the revision is the same
[22:20] <n1cky_> and i messed up
[22:20] <n1cky_> <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:20] <abdullah> i didnt change that
[22:21] <n1cky_> not 18, 247
[22:22] <n1cky_> but that doesn't explain why that messed up github url appeared... You must have changed something else.
[22:22] <abdullah> okay started sync again
[22:22] <abdullah> i didn't just changed fetch and review
[22:23] <n1cky_> did it fail again?
[22:24] <abdullah> yes
[22:24] <abdullah> fatal: unable to access 'https://<IP_ADDRESS>:29418/CyanogenMod/android_external_pigz/': Failed to connect to <IP_ADDRESS> port 29418: Connection timed out fatal: unable to access 'https://<IP_ADDRESS>:29418/aosp/platform/external/libcxx/': Failed to connect to <IP_ADDRESS> port 29418: Connection timed out
[22:29] <n1cky_> Where did /CyanogenMod come from?
[22:29] <n1cky_> That's under remote name="cm"
[22:29] <n1cky_> can you just post your manifest.xml?
[22:30] <abdullah> sure
[22:30] <abdullah> https://www.zerobin.net/?8f43bae0efbd98ba#m0sE/b34G88w0PCnze7Pyvd3L/rWjivPETE2t3F5ni8=
[22:31] <abdullah> cyanogenmod is part of it
[22:31] <abdullah> its based on cyanogenmod
[22:31] <abdullah> anyways i have downloaded the source twice now
[22:32] <abdullah> looks like only mario can you explain me what's going on now
[22:36] <n1cky_> okay I just wanted you to try that.
[22:36] <n1cky_> go to code-review.phablet.ubuntu.com and login in the top right
[22:37] <n1cky_> then go to settings and enter in your SSH key
[22:37] <n1cky_> if you don't have one, enter "ssh-keygen" at your bash prompt and press enter a couples times. Then copy the contents of ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub to your clipboard and paste it into the gerrit settinsg.
[22:38] <abdullah> alrighty but the code has been downloaded
[22:38] <n1cky_> oh you have it?
[22:38] <abdullah> do you think i should try that?
[22:38] <n1cky_> okay cool.
[22:38] <n1cky_> no, you are good.
[22:38] <abdullah> alright
[22:38] <n1cky_> That's just how I fixed it-- I switched everything from http clones to git.
[22:38] <abdullah> just waiting for mario now
[22:38] <n1cky_> /git/ssh/g
[22:38] <abdullah> i see
[22:38] <abdullah> the server is much better now actually
[22:40] <abdullah> does ubuntu touch still use 4.4 kitkat sources from aosp? or it has been updated?
[22:41] <popey> the released images use 4.x
[22:41] <popey> I think the next couple of devices might be on 5.x
[22:42] <popey> Meizu Pro 5 and bq M10, but not sure. Not seen either device in person.
[22:47] <abdullah> okay
[22:48] <abdullah> ubport is based on cm12.1


[06:26] <xeno__> Hmm.  I was sent here by someone on the #ubuntu channel.  But the introductory title says it's not for "support".  Can I ask questions here, or is this for bugs or something?
[06:27] <xeno__> I've got this Toshiba Satellite Laptop which has never been able to do wireless with Ubuntu, but originally did it fine with XP.
[06:28] <xeno__> A55-S3063 is the model specific number.
[07:02] <xeno__>  I was sent here by someone on the #ubuntu channel.  But the introductory title says it's not for "support".  Can I ask questions here, or is this for bugs or something?
[07:03] <tritium> xeno__: I asked you in #ubuntu what wireless chipset, and you never replied
[07:11] <xeno__> Oh, I did but it slipped by.
[07:12] <xeno__> Interface Type Integrated Intel PRO Wireless 2200 802.11b/g
[07:12] <xeno__> This is from a web page for my model, so I'm not sure, but it sounds right.
[07:13] <tritium> xeno__: please run "lsmod | grep ipw"
[07:13] <xeno__> I also was asking on there about the ndiswrapper that charlie mentioned, but messages came out fast and it was hard to keep track.
[07:13] <tritium> You don't need ndiswrapper for ipw2200
[07:13] <ajmitch> it ought to Just Work
[07:13] <tritium> It's well supported.  In fact, I'm using one right now.
[07:13] <tritium> It does "just work" for me on this Toshiba Tecra A2.
[07:14] <xeno__> xeno@radioflyer:~$ lsmod | grep ipw
[07:14] <xeno__> ipw2200               147016  0
[07:14] <xeno__> ieee80211              33608  1 ipw2200
[07:14] <xeno__> xeno@radioflyer:~$
[07:14] <tritium> Okay, module is loaded properly.
[07:15] <xeno__> Among other symptoms, when I turn on the button on the left to try to use it, it seems to lock up all my network stuff.
[07:15] <tritium> xeno__: "stuff"?
[07:16] <xeno__> This is not immediately repeatable, but happens after a while.
[07:16] <xeno__> In other words, my wired connection I'm using now stops working when I leave the wireless on for a while...?
[07:16] <ajmitch> sounds about right, if you're using network-manager
[07:17] <ajmitch> it's generally a sign that it's picked up an ip address & has disabled the wired connection
[07:17] <xeno__> I'm up for using the best thing for my circumstances.
[07:17] <xeno__> I'll try something new if you recommend it.  I just took what got loaded.
[07:17] <xeno__> What got loaded with my standard install that is.
[07:18] <xeno__> I've added applications, but I believe I've added nothing extra for network.  Does that sound right?
[07:18] <tritium> xeno__: try manual configuration?
[07:19] <xeno__> No.  I've never seen my transmission come up on my firewall table, but I should check again now to make sure I'm not wasting you all's time...
[07:21] <xeno__> I'm sorry, I just got pulled off.  My apologies, but I'll have to try more later.
[07:23] <tritium> No problem.  See you.
[05:28] <xeno__> Say, I'm back trying to figure out my laptop.  I have the firewall up with my mac address, but that device doesn't appear to have any pickup reporter.
[05:29] <xeno__> It's a Netgear MR814v2.
[05:30] <xeno__> Here are some other history items:
[05:30] <xeno__> 1.  My friend who sold it to me had wireless working fine on it with Windows XP.
[05:31] <xeno__> 2.  I installed Breezy on it last Summer and then upgraded to Dapper.  It never worked with the wireless net at my employment at the time.
[05:32] <xeno__> 3.  I upgraded recently to Edgy and then to Feisty, and most everything else on this Toshiba Satellite A55-S3063 works fine.
[05:34] <xeno__> When I go right now to the network GUI under System it has a check to the left of "wired " and a minus to the left of "wireless"
[05:35] <xeno__> ifconfig shows an eth0 for my wireless NIC that is not configured for IP.
[11:44] <roadkill> any one have problems with wifi stability?
[11:44] <roadkill> nvm ill deal with it later


 and if I go to isohunt.com and do a search it times out
[07:45] <bazhang> thought they were shut down, as well as hotmail
[16:57] <ryanakca> jpds: Could you please remove ubot2 from #kubuntu-bugs?


[11:56] <olmari> I installed ubuntu into ZFS, all is otherwise good, but network-manager shows much of the interfaces as "not managed" and I can't use them.. only the wlan is usable (that was used with installation time if that matters)...
[11:56] <olmari> nothing suspicious in /etc/config/network nor in NM files
[11:56] <olmari> so... I'm at loss how to resolve this :)


[18:24] <zenrox> god i hat sasl
[18:24] <zenrox> hate
[18:43] <zenrox> whare is every one
[18:43] <Silver_Fox_> Who knows zenrox ...
[18:48] <zenrox> its just so quiet
[18:48] <zenrox> this use to be a really chatty bunch
[18:49] <zenrox> specaly when ubuntu first came out
[18:50] <zenrox> having a prob Silver_Fox_
[18:51]  * zenrox spanks peer
[18:51] <Silver_Fox_> No, just moved from 3G to wifi
[18:51] <zenrox> oh
[18:51] <zenrox> i am on my 3g
[18:52] <zenrox> dont have access to wifi (with out cracking someones)
[18:53] <s-fox> Ah, much better
[18:54] <zenrox> i bet
[18:57] <s-fox> I do not think I have seen you before zenrox .  First time in this channel for sometime?
[18:57] <zenrox> well
[18:58] <zenrox> it has bine a long time
[18:58] <zenrox> i have bine dealing with some real life issues
[18:58] <zenrox> and i did stray away from my ubuntu
[18:59] <zenrox> i know most if not all the old ones here
[18:59] <zenrox> i see about 4 of them now
[19:01] <zenrox> i was here during the first ever realice of ubuntu
[19:05] <s-fox> Just had a look at your forum profile zenrox :-)
[19:05] <zenrox> ya long time
[19:05] <zenrox> lol
[19:06] <zenrox> lol
[19:07] <zenrox> i havnt updated that profile in awhile either
[19:09] <zenrox> wb darkmatter
[19:10] <darkmatter> o/
[19:10] <darkmatter> brb. gotta reset my chat window
[19:10] <zenrox> ok
[19:12] <zenrox> hmm
[19:13] <zenrox> wb agine
[19:16] <zenrox> still trying to get use to unity
[19:20] <s-fox> I do not think unity is a good thing on larger monitors. I think it is okay on netbooks
[19:21] <zenrox> its fine on my lappy 16"
[19:21] <zenrox> wide screen
[19:21] <zenrox> i am starting to like it
[19:21] <zenrox> slowly
[19:21] <zenrox> still like my xfce
[19:22] <s-fox> It looked odd on my 22 inch monitor
[19:22] <zenrox> hmm
[19:23] <zenrox> looked fine on my 27"tv
[19:23] <zenrox> but it is still got issues
[19:23] <s-fox> This is all opinion
[19:23] <zenrox> yep
[19:25] <zenrox> ill probly go install my xfce after this 11.04 is out
[19:47] <zenrox> wb darkmatter
[19:48] <zenrox> gona stay awhile
[20:02] <zenrox> wow xubuntu is nice
[20:02] <zenrox> and cleaner
[20:04] <s-fox> Back later
[20:05] <zenrox> ok
[20:14] <darkmatter> zenrox: heya. late response from fixing configs to be fullt gnome3 compatible. lol
[20:14] <darkmatter> sup?
[20:14] <zenrox> not much
[20:15] <zenrox> just install my xubuntu-desktop
[20:15] <zenrox> like it better than unity
[20:29] <darkmatter> zenrox: I'm lovin' GNOME3 now that I got everything playing nice :D
[20:31] <zenrox> hmm i am still a xfce fan lighter and cleener
[20:32] <zenrox> bbl i have to go to an appt ill be back lator
[22:32] <zenrox> i am back darkmatter
[22:33] <darkmatter> o/
[22:33] <darkmatter> sup?
[22:33] <zenrox> i had a councling appt
[22:33] <zenrox> not much
[22:35] <darkmatter> I see


[12:45] <murmel> did something change with the policy about requesting bigger repositories? for some reason newer repos of mine have a 8GB limit, not the usual 2
[12:59] <cjwatson> murmel: https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/+git/launchpad/+merge/433283
[13:04] <murmel> cjwatson: awesome thanks :) so would I request to increase the size, or just do it on my own (move to a new repo?)
[13:06] <cjwatson> murmel: Best to request quota bumps in the usual way (support URL in the topic)
[13:07] <murmel> cjwatson: awesome will do
[22:49] <giuliano> Hi, I cannot login in launchpad.net. After user/pwd the system aswer is "Oops!
[22:49] <giuliano> Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad. "
[22:49] <giuliano> The situation is the same from last week...
[22:50] <giuliano> Wo can I contact to solve the problem?
[22:58] <giuliano> (Error ID: OOPS-ee6969cfa23e38121390c6bc46880ee3)
[23:08] <cjwatson> giuliano: emailing<EMAIL_ADDRESS>as you did was correct; I'll fix your account
[23:08] <giuliano> thanks a lot !
[23:09] <cjwatson> (it was due to LP having previously seen your email address when importing bug comments from another bug tracking system, and then getting confused)
[23:11] <cjwatson> fixed
[23:14] <giuliano> thanks , now it works !


[00:12] <obarthelemy> Hi... when creating an upstart job to launch a program at boot, how can I specify that it should run in a specific tty ?
[00:21] <obarthelemy> (not the job, the program ^^)
[00:25] <obarthelemy> Allo anyone ?
[00:26] <duanedesign> hello obarthelemy
[00:27] <obarthelemy> hi
[00:29] <duanedesign> obarthelemy: is it a GUI program?
[00:29] <obarthelemy> no
[00:32] <obarthelemy> it's mc, minidlna -f and transmission-daemon --foreground. the last two are normally daemons, but i want to force them to live on he console, at least while i'm making sure my server is workind fine
[00:33] <obarthelemy> i know how to force them to stay on the console... I just don't know how to tell them on *which* one they should go... they have no runtim paremeters for that, so I guess it must be handled by their upstart .conf job ?
[00:35] <duanedesign> very interesting. I thought I knew but can not seem to get it
[00:37] <duanedesign> it is a good idea to run transmission-daemon in a different tty
[00:48] <obarthelemy> yep, it's very chatty
[00:48] <obarthelemy> minidlna too ^^
[00:48] <obarthelemy> and MC is just 'coz i'm lazy
[00:57] <duanedesign> obarthelemy:  have you looked at  /etc/init/tty2.conf
[00:58] <obarthelemy> i've played with it to make it autologin, as well as the other ttyXconf
[01:16] <duanedesign> obarthelemy:  start apache TTY=tty1    ?
[01:17] <duanedesign> was the only thing close to what you are wanting to do that I could find
[01:20] <obarthelemy> what is start ? upstart scripts take either exec or cript ?
[01:20] <obarthelemy> script
[01:24] <obarthelemy> would it not be something with
[01:24] <obarthelemy>   env KEY[=VALUE]
[01:24] <obarthelemy>               Defines a default environment variable, the value of  which  may
[01:24] <obarthelemy>               be overriden by the event or command that starts the job.  If no
[01:24] <obarthelemy>               value is given,  then  the  value  is  taken  from  the  init(8)
[01:24] <obarthelemy>               daemon?s own environment.
[01:24] <obarthelemy> and set TTY to tty6 ?
[01:25] <obarthelemy> or
[01:25] <obarthelemy>   console output|owner
[01:25] <obarthelemy>               By default the standard input, output and error file descriptors
[01:25] <obarthelemy>               of jobs are connected to /dev/null
[01:25] <obarthelemy>               If this stanza is specified, they are connected to  /dev/console
[01:25] <obarthelemy>               instead.
[01:25] <obarthelemy>               console  owner  is  special, it not only connects the job to the
[01:25] <obarthelemy>               system console but sets the job to be the owner  of  the  system
[01:25] <obarthelemy>               console,  which  means  it will receive certain signals from the
[01:25] <obarthelemy>               kernel when special  key  combinations  such  as  Control-C  are
[01:25] <obarthelemy>               pressed.
[01:26] <obarthelemy> CONSOLE OWNER seems good, but I still got to set the conseol to tty6 !
[01:43] <duanedesign> obarthelemy: Jobs may be started and stopped manually by using the start and stop commands
[01:45] <cprofitt> pleia2: ping
[01:49] <obarthelemy> mmm.. ut that's not automatic then :-p
[01:50] <obarthelemy> or do you mean I should do my conf file with no stat clause, then do start myjob.conf as a login script in tty6 ?
[01:50] <obarthelemy> no staRt clause
[02:06] <duanedesign> obarthelemy: seems a little hackish, but i do not know if their is another way or not
[02:06] <duanedesign> :)
[02:08] <obarthelemy> ok lol, i'll try
[02:10] <obarthelemy> thanks for your help !
[03:20] <pleia2> cprofitt: pong
[03:21] <cprofitt> hey pleia2
[03:22] <pleia2> hey
[03:22] <bioterror> hi
[03:37] <obarthelemy> hello again !
[03:37] <obarthelemy> got another question !
[03:37] <obarthelemy> attention, long description incoming !
[03:38] <obarthelemy> why does
[03:38] <obarthelemy> source /home/olivier/Config/bashstartupscript.sh
[03:38] <obarthelemy> added at the end of /etc/profile, with bashstartupscript.sh being
[03:38] <obarthelemy> #!/bin/bash
[03:38] <obarthelemy> if [ $USER = 'root' ]; then
[03:38] <obarthelemy>      export PS1='\[\033[31m\]\l \w # \[033[37m\]
[03:38] <obarthelemy> fi
[03:38] <obarthelemy> if [ $USER = 'olivier' ]; then
[03:38] <obarthelemy>      export PS1='\[\033[32m\]\l \w # \[033[37m\]
[03:38] <obarthelemy> fi
[03:38] <obarthelemy> work for olivier, but not for root ? The prompt in my root TTY (tty4, autologin like the other ones) stays white instead of going red. echo $USER returns root...
[03:38] <obarthelemy> source bashstartupscript.sh
[03:38] <obarthelemy>  from the prompt right after boot works fine... it just doesn't work from etc/profile ?
[03:40] <bioterror> !pastebin | obarthelemy
[03:40] <ubot2> obarthelemy: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[03:40] <obarthelemy> ok, sorry... http://paste.ubuntu.com/716598/
[03:40] <bioterror> hmmm
[03:41] <bioterror> the thing is that should be in /etc/bash.bashrc
[03:41] <bioterror> as your root account reads /root/ or /etc/bash.bashrc
[03:41] <bioterror> /root/.bashrc or something
[03:41] <bioterror> and that sources from  your home dir and yadda yadda yadda
[03:42] <bioterror> my .zshrc works flawlessly as I have put it /root/.zshrc and ~/.zshrc for my user
[03:42] <obarthelemy> but /etc/profile is read by all users, including root ?
[03:44] <bioterror> should be read, I think ;)
[03:44] <obarthelemy> ...
[03:44] <obarthelemy> "/home" has no directory at all for root ?
[03:45] <bioterror> no
[03:45] <bioterror> it's /root
[03:46] <obarthelemy> http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/howlinuxworks/linux_hlbash.html says bash read /etc/profile, then ~/.bash_profile, then ~/.bash_login, then ~/.profile, only one of those last 3, and in that order....
[03:47] <bioterror> I think it reads /etc/bash.bashrc ;)
[03:48] <bioterror> that looks old site
[03:48] <bioterror> when I was young, internet sites used to look like that
[03:48] <bioterror> you could add your script thingies into your /etc/bash.bashrc
[03:49] <bioterror> honestly, I've not used bash for ages
[03:50] <obarthelemy> i'm trying /root/.bash_profile
[03:50] <obarthelemy> WORKS !
[03:51] <obarthelemy> thanks a lot... everything is pointing to the same script still, so I still have a single point to make all my changes, which is what I wanted
[03:51] <obarthelemy> and... to general acclaim, I got another question !
[03:52] <obarthelemy> how can I launch a program, and make it run on a specific tty ?
[03:52] <bioterror> I have it like this: http://pastebin.com/TWXurTV8
[03:52] <bioterror> so if you share your configuration, it's not tied up to your username, it can be any username
[03:54] <obarthelemy> Nice thanks, I'll try to port it to my script... why $(whoami) instead of $USER ?
[03:54] <bioterror> becouse that's a command
[03:55] <bioterror> but you can do it your way
[03:56] <obarthelemy> cool, you if.. else way works fine, and it's more elegant indeed ^^
[03:56] <obarthelemy> now, how do I launch a program, ay mc, on tty4 from tty 1 ?
[03:57] <bioterror> I think that's a rather hard thing to do
[03:58] <obarthelemy> I've tried doing it in a .conf Upstart file instead, I can't manage it either, but if you prfer that ...
[03:59] <obarthelemy> I've got a few programs I want to launch at boot in their own TTYs so I can keep an eye on them... .conf don't seem to work (or rather, I can' find how to do it there), so I fell back on bash, full of hope ?
[04:00] <bioterror> are you running a server?
[04:00] <bioterror> or just a desktop computer?
[04:02] <obarthelemy> server, only cli usually
[04:03] <obarthelemy> runlevel 3 ^^
[04:03] <bioterror> I usually talk to my servers with ssh, and I dont access tty's at all ;)
[04:04] <obarthelemy> good point, that's what I'll be doing in the end. It's on my desk right now for setup, but will be headless and far away as soon as things run satisfactorily
[04:05] <obarthelemy> i was assuming than once things were running in their respective ttys, i'd ssh to each tty ?
[04:05] <bioterror> it doesnt work like that
[04:05] <obarthelemy> sh*t
[04:05] <bioterror> you can use shell multiplexer
[04:06] <holstein> screen FTW!
[04:06] <bioterror> common names are screen and tmux
[04:06] <bioterror> I've configured screen to use fuction buttons to change different screen windows
[04:06] <bioterror> so I dont need to do all this ctrl-a-number -thingie
[04:07] <holstein> bioterror: is that on a config file?
[04:07] <bioterror> holstein, ya
[04:07] <holstein> cool :)
[04:07] <bioterror> bindkey -k k1 select 0
[04:07] <bioterror> bindkey -k k2 select 1
[04:07] <bioterror> and you ge the rest ;)
[04:08] <bioterror> get
[04:09] <bioterror> obarthelemy, but when you ssh in, you can have many windows inside screen ;)
[04:09] <bioterror> and that's like having many tty's
[04:10] <bioterror> but now I'm hungry, I'll go and make some coffee
[04:10] <bioterror> laters
[04:10] <obarthelemy> ok, so you're saying instead of booting to several ttys, I should boot into just one with screen running, and launch all my stuff in its own "screen" ?
[04:10] <obarthelemy> arf... laters
[05:04] <duanedesign> bioterror: have you tried tmux yet?
[05:04] <duanedesign> i am pretty happy with byobu, but I would definitely like to try it
[05:39] <bioterror> duanedesign, I've been using screen so long, that I dont need tmux's features. like splitting
[10:50] <gumbah> Hi all, hope someone can help me with this noob problem: i've downloaded the Linux version of Jtvlc here http://apiwiki.justin.tv/mediawiki/index.php/VLC_Broadcasting_API and extracted it. It doesn't need to be installed, you should just be able to cd into the dir and execute "jtvlc". But when I do that (or type "./jtvlc") it prompts: "No such file or directory"
[10:50] <gumbah> anyone any ideas?
[10:51] <geirha> trying to run a 32-bit binary on a 64-bit system?
[10:51] <gumbah> could that be the problem?
[10:51] <gumbah> is that a known thing/issue?
[10:52] <geirha> ''file ./jtvlc''
[10:52] <geirha> You can install 32-bit libraries to make it run
[10:53] <gumbah> thanks, i guess that's it
[10:54] <gumbah> any links to more info on installing those libs to make it run?
[10:54] <gumbah> or is it better to just use a 32bit version of ubuntu?
[10:55] <geirha> You'll need ia32-libs at least. See what that gets you.
[10:55] <geirha> Sure there's no 64 bit binary of that jtvlc thing?
[10:56] <gumbah> don't think so
[10:56] <gumbah> installed ia32-libs and it seems to be executing now!
[10:56] <gumbah> thanks geirha!!
[10:58] <geirha> The "No such file or directory" message is really confusing. I scratched my head real hard first time I encountered it. :)
[10:59] <geirha> The kernel tries to execute the 32-bit library loader, but it doesn't exist, so it generates that error.
[11:07] <coalwater> hey Daniel0108
[12:18] <obarthelemy> Hi... anyone knows gdisk ?
[12:48] <E3D3> How to install the Sims-3 in Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[12:50] <E3D3> Its not in the list from PlayOnLinux & I don't know how to install it with wine. Who can help ?
[13:08] <E3D3> Solved :-)
[13:18] <coalwater> obarthelemy: what's gdisk? something like gparted?
[13:32] <coalwater> any one tried to install libosmesa for webgl support?
[13:36] <obarthelemy> gdisk is supposed to be abe to convert MBR dsks to GPT, but the explanations are ... vague
[13:38] <coalwater> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[13:39] <coalwater> i think that's it, but idk why u would want it
[18:20] <kristian-aalborg> greetings
[18:20] <kristian-aalborg> holstein, yo
[18:20] <kristian-aalborg> how would you copy everything on a partition?
[18:21] <kristian-aalborg> cp -r /mnt/mypartition /mnt/mypartition2 ?
[18:21] <bioterror> depends
[18:21] <kristian-aalborg> on?
[18:21] <bioterror> if that's just random stuff, with cp
[18:21] <bioterror> if that's a operating system and other things, I would use some tools
[18:22] <kristian-aalborg> it's not, it's media
[18:22] <bioterror> then cp -rv
[18:22] <bioterror> ;)
[18:23] <kristian-aalborg> yeah
[20:06] <suicidesheep> can someone help me?
[21:28] <earthling_> what is this xserver security update all about?    * SECURITY UPDATE: denial of service and possible code execution via
[21:28] <earthling_>     incorrect input sanitization   http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=2010-4818
[21:28] <earthling_> "When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided."
[21:36] <earthling_> Do most people just automatically install all updates?
[22:01] <philipballew> earthling_, I would say most do
[22:09] <earthling_> ok
[22:36] <philipballew> Does anyone know about how many gig's a full ubuntu offline repo would take?
[22:42] <philipballew> i'll ask in #ubuntu
[23:18] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: o/
[23:20] <philipballew> hey holstein
[23:20] <holstein> philipballew: hey!
[23:21]  * philipballew gives holstein a big awkward hug
[23:21] <holstein> hehe
[23:21] <holstein> thats the best kind philipballew :)
[23:23] <philipballew> Its the only kid I give :)


[00:03] <rbasak> Unit193: any idea why it leaks?
[00:04] <Unit193> Bug in wolfssl's compat layer?  Or something?  I tried the latest release and even git HEAD, still issues.
[00:04] <rbasak> I'm not aware that "Deiban dooesn't seem to care about that any more" and I'm fairly sure that the position of at least one archive admin is that if Icecast upstream doesn't provide an OpenSSL linking exception then you can't link it.
[00:06] <rbasak> I don't think I can give you a +1 without checking with the Ubuntu archive admins and the wider SRU team.
[00:08] <Unit193> http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-ftp/2020/debian-ftp.2020-03-13-20.02.html  Well, ideally re-link to openssl instead, but no TLS support would be better than leaky TLS (then they can just use upstream's OBS repo to get TLS support, because browsers are rejecting non-TLS connections nowdays..)
[00:14] <rbasak> Thank you for the link! I didn't know about that.
[00:15] <rbasak> So just SRU team consultation needed then.
[00:15] <Unit193> Sure thing, they never got around to announcing it so it's a bit in limbo, but...I'd really like the feature here for that. :3
[00:15] <rbasak> Are you going to upload a new icecast2 to Debian that switches back to OpenSSL?
[00:15] <Unit193> Yeah.
[00:17] <rbasak> Unit193: I suggest you get an SRU bug ready
[00:17] <rbasak> Then I can ask the SRU team about it
[00:18] <Unit193> OK, I must confess I'm not very good at that.  I presume I basically just file an issue for the package and it can be adapted.
[00:21] <rbasak> Roughly yes. Use a bug title of "Memory leak when using SSL" or something
[00:21] <rbasak> See what you can do with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure
[00:22] <rbasak> Try to explain why switching to OpenSSL is the most suitable way of fixing the issue
[00:23] <rbasak> Don't worry about section headings too much if that bothers you. The important thing is that the required information is discernable from what you wrote, not how you write it.
[00:23] <rbasak> HTH
[00:38] <Unit193> Just pushed the fixed icecast2 to Debian.