[06:26] <dholbach> good morning
[06:43] <justCarakas> Good morning all
[06:59] <thunderamur> Hi! Sory for my english. Hope you can understand me. I want to create simple app with Ubuntu SDK. App must parse the output of console programs and show some of the data in the tray, with animation icons and tooltips on mouseover.  Where i can get tutorial how to add icon in systray with Ubuntu SDK?
[07:37] <AskUbuntu> How to package QML Extension Library + Tabbed Touch UI? | http://askubuntu.com/q/445336
[07:47] <dpm> morning zbenjamin, I'm trying to build Reminders using a 14.04 click chroot and I'm having some issues. I've got 2 click targets defined, both for trusty: one using the 13.10 framework and one using the 14.04 framework. So the first question is, when doing a build, does QtC just pick the one defined first in the click target dialog? The second question is: I've installed libssl-dev on both click chroots, yet while building on the chroot the build fa
[07:47] <dpm> ils because it cannot find one of the ssl headers. Any ideas what could be going on there?
[07:47] <zbenjamin> dpm: no it does not pick it you have to assign it to the project
[07:47] <zbenjamin> dpm: there should be 2 ubuntu sdk kits for you
[07:47]  * kalikiana looks at nik90 and wonders if he still wants to review https://code.launchpad.net/~kalikiana/u1db-qt/indexRoles/+merge/211771
[07:49] <dpm> zbenjamin, how do I assign it? And why did it pick by default when choosing "Build in chroot" /tmp/build-reminders-app-Desktop-Default/ubuntu-sdk-14.04-armhf ?
[07:49] <zbenjamin> dpm: aaa you are using the old version, i though you are using the version from the ppa
[07:49] <justCarakas> how can you use the framework for 14.04 ?
[07:50] <dpm> zbenjamin, I was, until this morning an archive update overwrote that :)
[07:50] <zbenjamin> dpm: right click -> build on chroot picks the framework from the manifest
[07:50] <dpm> ah, ok
[07:50] <dpm> zbenjamin, let me install from the PPA packages again first
[07:54] <dpm> zbenjamin, I've reinstalled the PPA packages, but I don't see any difference from the QtC version I was running a few minutes ago. How do I tell if I've got the newest version, and if so, how do I assign a kit to the project?
[07:55] <zbenjamin> dpm: dpkg -l | grep qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu
[07:56] <dpm> zbenjamin, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7225191/
[07:56] <rpadovani> dpm, o/ Have I to open a new bug for the QtCreator issue about reminders-app?
[07:56] <rpadovani> Do we can solve it with a rename of the desktop file or there is something else to do?
[07:57] <dpm> rpadovani, yes please, could you file a bug?
[07:57] <rpadovani> dpm: yes, sure
[07:57] <dpm> thanks!
[08:01] <rpadovani> dpm bug 1304879
[08:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1304879 in Ubuntu Reminders app "Fail to run build from trunk on desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1304879
[08:04] <zbenjamin> dpm: you restarted QtC right?
[08:05] <dpm> zbenjamin, yes (I've just done it again now, just in case)
[08:05] <dpm> thanks rpadovani
[08:05] <zbenjamin> dpm: then don't use build in chroot anymore
[08:05] <zbenjamin> dpm: you should now be able to assign Kits to your project
[08:05] <zbenjamin> dpm: on the Projects tab there is a add kit button in the top left corner
[08:06] <dpm> zbenjamin, ah, ok. Yeah, I saw that: if I go to Projects, switch kits, I've only got a 13.10 kit
[08:06] <dpm> ok, let me add one
[08:07] <zbenjamin> dpm: usually you select them on project creation, but if you load a existing project you have to manually assign them
[08:07] <dpm> done, added the 14.04 kit, let me try to build now
[08:07] <dpm> ack
[08:07] <zbenjamin> ok you need to switch to the Kit in the bottom left corner right over the green arrow
[08:08] <zbenjamin> dpm: ^
[08:08] <dpm> yeah, that got switched to by default when I clicked on it on the Projects page
[08:10] <dpm> zbenjamin, it seems I'm still having the same issue: the build cannot find the headers from the libssl-dev package I installed in my chroot: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225237/
[08:10] <zbenjamin> dpm: weird
[08:11] <zbenjamin> dpm: you sure the right kit is selected?
[08:11] <zbenjamin> dpm: just to be sure switch to the desktop kit and then to the 14.04
[08:12] <dpm> zbenjamin, it seems to switch allright:  Build files have been written to: /tmp/build-reminders-app-UbuntuSDK_for_armhf_GCC_ubuntu_sdk_14_04_trusty-Default
[08:12] <zbenjamin> dpm: hmm what you could do is echo the framework it sets in the qtc_chroot_cmake2 scipt
[08:13] <zbenjamin> dpm: should be in /usr/share/qtcreator/ubuntu/scripts
[08:13] <zbenjamin> dpm: echo $CLICK_SDK_FRAMEWORK
[08:14] <zbenjamin> dpm: you should see it when right clicking on the project and use run cmake
[08:14] <dpm> ok
[08:14] <zbenjamin> dpm: in general messages output i think
[08:14] <dpm> trying now
[08:15] <dpm> zbenjamin, it seems to output the right one: ubuntu-sdk-14.04
[08:16] <zbenjamin> dpm: ok "click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-14.04 run"  then go to your project dir and try manually
[08:25] <dpm> zbenjamin, shall I just do a local cmake run? I.e. 'cmake . && make'?
[08:25] <zbenjamin> dpm: yeah in the chroot command prompt
[08:25] <zbenjamin> dpm: but please create a builddir
[08:25] <zbenjamin> dpm: mkdir build && cd build && cmake .. && make
[08:26] <dpm> hm, too late
[08:26] <zbenjamin> dpm: then you just messed up your QtC project ;)
[08:26] <dpm> argh
[08:27] <zbenjamin> dpm: a in source cmake build prevents all out of source builds
[08:28] <zbenjamin> dpm: that is a cmake restriction
[08:28] <dpm> ok, I'm back to a clean dir
[08:31] <dpm> zbenjamin, ok, that failed to find the header too :/ http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225295/
[08:32] <zbenjamin> dpm: how did you install the libssl-dev package?
[08:32] <zbenjamin> dpm: in maintenance or run mode?
[08:32] <zbenjamin> dpm: because if you did in click chroot run the packages are removed after you log out
[08:33] <zbenjamin> dpm: click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-14.04 maint apt-get install libssl-dev
[08:37] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Cherish An Antique Day! :-D
[09:02] <dpm> zbenjamin, sorry I was otp. It seems the header still cannot be found, and I know why now - it seems the x86 version of the package is installed (see the note at the end of the paste): http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225370/
[09:02] <zbenjamin> dpm: arghs yeah you have to install libssl-dev:armhg
[09:02] <zbenjamin> armhf
[09:02] <dpm> aha
[09:03] <zbenjamin> dpm: always add :armhf if you install libs for development
[09:05] <dpm> zbenjamin, so I should do click "chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-14.04 maint apt-get install libssl-dev:armhf", right? How do I do it from within Qt Creator? If I click the Maintain button in the click targets, the package will remain installed across project reopenings, right?
[09:06] <zbenjamin> dpm: exactly
[09:06] <zbenjamin> dpm: but if you use the maintain button you can just do : apt-get install no need for the click part the
[09:06] <zbenjamin> n
[09:06] <dpm> yes
[09:11] <dpm> thanks a lot zbenjamin, the project is now happily building :) - one last thing we need to fix is the build. So we've got this bug now, which is essentially what we discussed with sergiusens yesterday. As a short term fix, would you recommend us to just rename the .desktop file? bug 1304879
[09:12] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1304879 in Ubuntu Reminders app "Fail to run build from trunk on desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1304879
[09:13] <zbenjamin> dpm: yeah that would fix it for now, but we need to find a better way to do this
[09:13] <dpm> ok
[09:14] <zbenjamin> dpm: btw you will have to set -DCLICK_MODE manually from now on, the templates don't use it anymore and i think setting it in the chroot cmake scipts was just not the way to go
[09:15] <dpm> zbenjamin, ok, that was a trick, that wasn't my last question :) So now I've built reminders, how do I create the click in the new QtC? Will the Publish tab do the right thing and use the output from the right kit?
[09:15] <zbenjamin> dpm: create package on the publish tab
[09:15] <zbenjamin> dpm: it will use the currently selected kit
[09:16] <zbenjamin> dpm: or you attach your device and click the run button and it should magically show up on your device, its not installed atm
[09:17] <dpm> zbenjamin, excellent. Now, on reminders we've got a click/manifest.json.in file that gets generated with cmake. I guess QtC will simply ignore that and create its own?
[09:18] <dpm> and if so, how can we make our .json.in file to play nice with QtC?
[09:18] <zbenjamin> dpm: you can't make the json.in file play nice with QtC except you rename it to manifest.json and put it in the root folder
[09:18] <zbenjamin> of your project
[09:18] <zbenjamin> also the apparmor file
[09:19] <dpm> ok
[09:19] <zbenjamin> dpm: i think cmake does not care how a in file is named right?
[09:20] <zbenjamin> dpm: so you can still do the variable replacement but use manifest.json as input and output file name
[09:20] <dpm> zbenjamin, no, cmake does not care, .in is just a convention for input files that are used as intermediate means to generate the final file after substitution
[09:20] <zbenjamin> dpm: as long as it is a valid json file QtC should not care
[09:20] <dpm> ah, but that'd mess revision control
[09:21] <zbenjamin> dpm: no bzr mv
[09:21] <zbenjamin> dpm: should take the rev info with it
[09:21] <dpm> yeah, but that's not what I mean
[09:21] <zbenjamin> then i did not get it right ;)
[09:21] <dpm> I mean every time the click package is created, the manifest.json file would be overwritten
[09:22] <dpm> and bzr would show it as changed
[09:22] <zbenjamin> why is that? the output file is created in the builddir
[09:22] <zbenjamin> or at least it should be
[09:22] <dpm> oh, I see...
[09:22] <nik90> dpm: I created a google document where I listed the current SDK blockers affecting app showdown developers. You can find it at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kzLBDMWx5iS67pNiDasfxg4bMlTHET-j50hoUQZjYfc/edit
[09:23] <nik90> dpm: (in response to your email yesterday)
[09:23] <dpm> zbenjamin, I was thinking of it being generated locally, but yes, you're right. My case would only apply for in-tree builds, with are a very bad thing to do, I've just learnt :)
[09:23] <zbenjamin> dpm: i'm actually planning to use the manifest file to create the runconfigs, each hook in the manifest file will result in a runconfig but for that i need it always in the root dir
[09:23] <dpm> nik90, oh wow, nice work!
[09:24] <zbenjamin> dpm: that means we need to migrate the core apps away from manifest.in
[09:24] <dpm> zbenjamin, ok. So if I want to fix this today in reminders, other than moving manifest to the root of the source tree, would you recommend me to hardcode the values, or to use cmake variables?
[09:24] <nik90> dpm: so if there are other judges who happen to notice a common issue, they can fill it in so that we can take that into consideration during the review process.
[09:25] <dpm> nice!
[09:26] <dpm> nik90, I'll put a link to the doc in the judging sheet
[09:26] <nik90> dpm: ok
[09:27] <zbenjamin> dpm: you can use the variables as long as the hooks are all in the manifest file. Best would be of course if the desktop file names in there as well but i think i can work around this by reading the manifest file in the builddir again
[09:27] <dpm> nik90, although, an issue might be that the Chinese judges cannot access it due to Google blocking
[09:27] <nik90> dpm: ooh...I didn't think about that. Is there a common place where we all can access it?
[09:27] <zbenjamin> dpm: just check if QtC overrides you any variables maybe then we can see if we can fix that. but it should not
[09:28] <nik90> dpm: email doesn't really work since it makes it harder to dig up older email conversations.
[09:28] <dpm> nik90, yeah, we can use pad.ubuntu.com perhaps
[09:28] <zbenjamin> dpm: and rename the desktop file for now until we have a better solution
[09:28] <dpm> zbenjamin, ack. To make sure I get it right, what do you mean by "as long as the hooks are all in the manifest file"?
[09:29] <nik90> dpm: good idea. I will transfer it to pad.ubuntu.com and then send you the invite link via email.
[09:29] <dpm> nik90, great, thanks!
[09:31] <zbenjamin> dpm: afaik every child-object in the hook object represents a desktop file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225456/
[09:32] <zbenjamin> dpm: so i'm going to create a runconfig for every property in the hooks that contains a object with a desktop: property (thats the plan at least)
[09:32] <dpm> zbenjamin, right, so I guess if I leave the variables as they are, it should still work? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225454/
[09:33] <zbenjamin> dpm: the @APP_NAME@ would be a problem
[09:33] <zbenjamin> dpm: because thats how your runconfig is called then
[09:34] <zbenjamin> dpm: and i would search in the output manifest file for a property called @APP_NAME@ that does not exist
[09:34] <zbenjamin> but the others are ok
[09:35] <zbenjamin> dpm: btw is there a documentation about the manifest file structure?
[09:36] <dpm> zbenjamin, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Specifications/ApplicationConfinement/Manifest
[09:39] <zbenjamin> dpm: thx
[10:05] <dpm> zbenjamin, now that I've moved manifest.json to the root of the source tree, why does QtC not read it and tries to overwrite it every time? That does not work for core apps, as e.g. the maintainer is a team, and every time QtC sets the author to an individual developer
[10:18] <nik90> zsombi: What is the status of https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/alarm-date-fix/+merge/210181 and https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/alarm-fetch-fix/+merge/208749 ?
[10:18] <nik90> zsombi: can we expect them to be approved and merged by this week?
[10:18] <nik90> before freeze
[10:18] <zsombi> nik90: there're some comments on it which I need to address...
[10:19] <zsombi> nik90: not entirelly sure... it all depends how fast can we land stuff also...
[10:19] <nik90> zsombi: ok. Because once they land on device, I will have to also test and make sure the alarms is good to go for this cycle.
[10:20] <nik90> zsombi: it is high priority that a working alarms implementation doesn't get postponed to the next cycle. And popey wants the final 14.04 image to have a working alarms implementation.
[10:20] <zsombi> nik90: you should test it before it lands, right? there will be some changes in the fetch-fix, we just found a bug there
[10:21] <zsombi> nik90: popey: sorry, we got other high priority stuff as well to finish in april :/
[10:21] <nik90> zsombi: well I did already test the MP. But once it is on the phone, I will have to make sure everything is still good and ready for production.
[10:22] <zsombi> nik90: you shoudl re-test it again once I'll add the fixes to it... I was working on it this morning, but had to switch to other task doe to its priority
[10:23] <nik90> zsombi: just ping me when you want me to test.
[10:23] <zsombi> yeps, you'll get pinged :)
[10:38] <dpm> dholbach, how do I install the click reviewer tools? And do you know how to make them work in Qt Creator? I see under Tools > Options > Ubuntu > Click packaging reviewer a text entry where I should probably point to the tool's dir or the executable, but I'm not sure how it's supposed to work. Do you happen to know?
[10:41] <dpm> nm, I think I've figured it out
[10:41] <dpm> sudo apt-get install click-reviewers-tools
[10:43] <dpm> although I still don't understand how to get QtC integration going
[10:46] <dholbach> dpm, zbenjamin should be ablle to explain
[10:54] <dpm> np
[10:58] <zbenjamin> dpm: if you click create package in the publish tab just wait there for the package to be finished and it should show you the validation output
[10:58] <dpm> zbenjamin, it shows me a "Click reviewer tools" progress bar and that's it
[10:59] <zbenjamin> dpm: on the publish tab it shows you a list of items on the right side
[10:59] <zbenjamin> dpm: thats the graphical representation of the review tools output
[11:00] <dpm> zbenjamin, yeah, small popups on the bottom right side, but I cannot see any textual output
[11:00] <dpm> running the click review tools on the command line gives me a failure, but QtC doesn't tell me anything
[11:02] <zbenjamin> dpm: if you look on the pusblish tab on the right side there is a button that says validate click package right?
[11:02] <dpm> zbenjamin, no, just 3 buttons: Reload - Reset to defaults - Create package
[11:02] <zbenjamin> aaa  you did not have the review tools installed?
[11:03] <zbenjamin> restart QtC after you installed it
[11:03] <zbenjamin> dpm: ^
[11:03] <zbenjamin> dpm: its not picked up automatically
[11:03] <dpm> aha
[11:05] <dpm> zbenjamin, ah, now it works, thanks! I'm not sure if you saw the question earlier: "now that I've moved manifest.json to the root of the source tree, why does QtC not read it and tries to overwrite it every time? That does not work for core apps, as e.g. the maintainer is a team, and every time QtC sets the author to an individual developer"
[11:06] <zbenjamin> dpm: does it overwrite everything?
[11:06] <zbenjamin> dpm: or just some vars
[11:07] <dpm> zbenjamin, everything, although I've noticed that if I copy and paste the original file in the Manifest tab inside Publish, then it remembers it
[11:07] <zbenjamin> dpm: wut? strange
[11:07] <zbenjamin> dpm: and when you close and reopen QtC?
[11:08] <dpm> still remembers it
[11:08] <zbenjamin> dpm: technically it should never overwrite a existing manifest.json
[11:09] <zbenjamin> dpm: would be nice if we could reproduce that problem+
[11:14] <dpm> zbenjamin, steps to reproduce: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225741/
[11:14] <zbenjamin> dpm: ok thanks i will look into that problem as the first fiy
[11:14] <zbenjamin> fix
[11:17] <zbenjamin> dpm: quick check: did you move the apparmor file to the root path as well?
[11:18] <zbenjamin> dpm: because if that does not exist it would reset all values
[11:18] <dpm> zbenjamin, yeah, its next to manifest.json
[11:18] <zbenjamin> how is it called?
[11:18] <zbenjamin> i think QtC wants some special name, that should change maybe
[11:21] <zbenjamin> dpm: ok i think i can fix that problem, i'm going to read the apparmor file from the manifest.json
[11:22] <dpm> ok
[11:24] <dpm> zbenjamin, it seems I'm slowly getting there with reminders, but I've still got a final issue: when I hit the run button, it fails on the deploy step - it says "Could not connect to host: Private key file error: No such file or directory", although the device is connected, I can adb into it and QtC seems to detect it too. Any ideas?
[11:24] <mihir> renato, ping
[11:25] <zbenjamin> dpm: can you paste the device log from the devices page?
[11:25] <dpm> sure
[11:25] <daker> mhall119: hi, how can i test the email client ?
[11:25] <zbenjamin> dpm: note every device has its own log tab now
[11:26] <dpm> ok, cool. zbenjamin, here's what I get: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225784/
[11:27] <zbenjamin> dpm: ok thats the main log, every device has its own
[11:27] <zbenjamin> should be inside the devices tab
[11:27] <zbenjamin> dpm: right under the Simple and Advanced tab
[11:29] <dpm> zbenjamin, ah, got it now. Here it is: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225790/
[11:29] <zbenjamin> dpm: weird that looks good
[11:29] <zbenjamin> dpm: try ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-p 10000
[11:30] <zbenjamin> dpm: sorry ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-p 10001
[11:30] <zbenjamin> dpm: meh the log is wrong it should be 10000 ;)
[11:31] <zbenjamin> dpm: aaa there was a problem with openssh not being started
[11:31] <zbenjamin> dpm: adb shell setprop persist.service.ssh true
[11:31] <zbenjamin> dpm: adb shell start ssh
[11:35] <dpm_> zbenjamin, sorry, got disconnected, not sure if you got my reply - ok, it asked me to accept the device, to which I said yes, and then it connected
[11:35] <zbenjamin> dpm_: so you can ssh into the device?
[11:36] <dpm_> yep
[11:36] <zbenjamin> dpm_: but it still does not work from qtc?
[11:36] <dpm_> I'll try now again
[11:37] <dpm_> zbenjamin, no joy, when I press the green button I get: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7225814/
[11:37] <zbenjamin> dpm_: if its not working try to remove the device from Tools->Options->Devices and then redetect
[11:37] <dpm_> ok
[11:38] <zbenjamin> dpm_: if that still not helps we need to check if the private key listed in ~/.config/QtProject/qtcreator/devices.xml is existing in you .ssh folder
[11:38] <dpm_> hm, now it does not detect any devices
[11:39] <zbenjamin> dpm_: if you hit the redetect button in the Ubuntu devices tab?
[11:39] <dpm_> zbenjamin, ok, after restarting QtC and redetecting, it saw my device. Do I need to re-add it under Options again?
[11:40] <zbenjamin> dpm_: should be there already
[11:40] <dpm_> ah, yeah, I can see it, will try to hit Ctrl+R again
[11:42] <zbenjamin> dpm_: so?
[11:43] <dpm_> zbenjamin, ok, it seems that worked, but I'm not sure it launched the app, as it's failing to start (that's a reminders bug, not QtC). So essentially, what that does is to copy the result of the build and runs it unconfined?
[11:43] <zbenjamin> dpm_: yes until we have debugging support in the launcher
[11:43] <dpm_> in the same way it did with qmlprojects?
[11:43] <zbenjamin> dpm_: or some other way
[11:43] <zbenjamin> yes
[11:44] <dpm_> zbenjamin, what about installing click packages? Is that on the roadmap, or is there a way already to do that from QtC?
[11:44] <zbenjamin> dpm_: the ultimate goal is to install a click package and run it confined. But we need to get debugging into that somehow
[11:44] <dpm_> ok, cool. Thanks for your help zbenjamin!
[11:44] <dpm_> lunch time
[11:44] <zbenjamin> dpm_: np, thx for the feedback
[11:45] <dpm_> mzanetti, rpadovani, I'm not sure I'll be around for the reminders meeting today. Would you mind if we move it to tomorrow or Friday some time in the morning?
[11:54] <mhall119> daker: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mhall119/trojita/
[11:55] <daker> ok
[11:55] <daker> mhall119: on the desktop ?
[12:00] <daker> got it running on the desktop
[12:22] <renato> mihir, pong
[12:23] <mihir> renato, if i want to get an event by event.ParentId can I get it like this ?
[12:23] <mihir> event = model.fetchItems(event.parentId)
[12:23] <renato> mihir, let me check
[12:23] <renato> but I think this should works
[12:24] <renato> are you having problems with that?
[12:25] <mihir> renato, i am not able to test it, so just asked , we have to use it for deleting entire event , if it is recurrent event.
[12:29] <renato> mihir, this is a bit more complicated than that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7225979/
[12:30] <renato> the function will return a fetchId and you will need to check for that on onItemsFetched model signal
[12:30] <renato> mihir, and the arg is a list not only one id
[12:31] <renato> something like  model.fetchItems([event.parentId])
[12:35] <justCarakas> aaaargh, I'm getting stress, still 3 more hours at work and my app for the showdown isn't finished yet :p
[12:39] <mihir> renato, ohhkie ,
[12:39] <mihir> renato, so i need to check implement onItemsFetched
[12:41] <mzanetti> dpm_: I'm in london for a sprint. so yeah, would skip it too today
[12:41] <dpm_> ok!
[12:42] <dpm_> have fun at the sprint :)
[12:58] <mhall119> daker: dholbach has it in a PPA
[12:58] <dholbach> daker, mhall119: are we talking about trojita?
[12:59] <mhall119> yeah
[12:59] <dholbach> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily
[12:59] <daker> dholbach: yes, i extracted the click package, got it running on the desktop
[12:59] <dholbach> ^ it's available here
[13:00] <daker> ok thanks
[13:02] <popey> beuno: JamesTait are you able to delete an app from the store pls? https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/424/ (it's mine)
[13:02] <popey> beuno: JamesTait also delete this one.. https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/99/ ?
[13:03] <popey> (I see no way in the web UI to do it myself)
[13:03] <JamesTait> popey, I don't have access to do that, but I think beuno does.
[13:35] <beuno> popey, I can delete them, have they ever been published?
[13:41] <popey> beuno: no
[13:58] <dpm_> rpadovani, mzanetti, when you've got a minute, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/qtc-changes/+merge/214951 and
[13:58] <dpm_> https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/fix-1303763/+merge/214952
[14:03] <dpm_> elopio, that last MP ^ should fix your issue with reminders not launching, if you too have got a minute for a quick review
[14:05] <mzanetti> dpm_: left a comment. did you try that?
[14:06] <dpm_> mzanetti, good point, I was too focused on getting the click to work
[14:06] <zbenjamin> ls
[14:08] <dpm_> mzanetti, AP seems to run allright. Well the one test we have :)
[14:09] <mzanetti> :D
[14:09] <mzanetti> dpm. ok. approving then
[14:09] <mzanetti> dpm_: approved this one. the other is a bit more to read. is it urgent?
[14:10] <dpm_> mzanetti, it is simply because this one depends on the other. But if you're busy with the sprint, no worries, I can try to find another reviewer
[14:11] <dpm_> I just had to modify a couple of things to make the app runnable and buildable from QtC
[14:11] <elopio> dpm_: :D /me tries.
[14:11] <dpm_> nice, thanks :)
[14:21] <nadrimajstor> I'we had some issues and I identified the problem: It is me.
[14:22] <nadrimajstor> Can someone suggest a course that focus on QML/QtQuick way of doing things_
[14:29] <dpm_> popey, fginther, I'll be a minute, I need to reboot
[14:31] <fginther> popey, did we agree to meet now?
[14:31] <popey> fginther: i have nothing in my calendar
[14:31] <popey> dpm: ^
[14:32] <fginther> dpm, popey, I have another hangout scheduled for now, but I can chat in about 30 minutes
[14:32] <popey> we both have one in 30 mins
[14:33] <dpm> popey, fginther, of course, I was adding the event while doing other things and I invited myself only!
[14:33]  * dpm facepalms
[14:33] <JoshStrobl_> popey: When did you drop such a magnificent beard? :D
[14:34] <dpm> fginther, popey, would in 1h30 work for you? Otherwise we can leave it for tomorrow
[14:34] <JoshStrobl_> *grow
[14:34] <JoshStrobl_> not sure why I substituted the word for drop
[14:34] <JoshStrobl_> haven't had coffee yet...sigh
[14:35] <JoshStrobl_> popey: The only hangout shown on https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=dno3ip0msg552dei3e3r7m8jl0%40group.calendar.google.com (from #ubuntu-on-air) is the engineering live. Is there another hangout or is it some internal one?
[14:36] <popey> JoshStrobl_: haha, thanks ☻
[14:36] <popey> JoshStrobl_: pass
[14:37] <popey> dpm: fginther i can do 2 hours time, not 1.5
[14:38] <rpadovani> dpm, just arrived at home, so it's good also for me to postpone to tomorrow reminder hangout
[14:38] <dpm> popey, will move to tomorrow, as I'll be away in 2h
[14:38] <dpm> rpadovani, ok, great
[14:38] <popey> ok
[14:43] <elopio> dpm: I've just provisioned reminders from your branch with click buddy and it still fails to open.
[14:44] <dpm> elopio, what does the upstart log say?
[14:44] <elopio> dpm: Unable to exec 'reminders' in '/opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/com.ubuntu.reminders': No such file or directory
[14:44] <dpm> elopio, which branch of the two did you pull?
[14:45] <elopio> dpm: https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/fix-1303763/+merge/214952
[14:45] <elopio> I didn't know there were two.
[14:45] <dpm> elopio, that's the right one you pulled
[14:46] <elopio> dpm: this time, the file is there, so that's one step forward.
[14:46] <dpm> elopio, what's the log file name you looked at? was it for the 0.5 version of reminders?
[14:47] <elopio> dpm: yes. .cache/upstart/application-click-com.ubuntu.reminders_reminders_0.5.log
[14:47] <dpm> elopio, ok, let me quickly add some logging
[14:52] <dpm> elopio, would you mind trying lp:~dpm/reminders-app/fix-1303763-debug and showing me the debug log?
[14:58] <elopio> dpm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7226581/
[14:58] <elopio> is that the right log file? It doesn't show anything new
[14:59] <dpm> elopio, there is something fishy going on here. That does not look right. See the last commit of the branch, it should be adding debug calls
[14:59] <dpm> ah wait
[14:59] <dpm> it doesn't even get to there
[15:00] <dpm> elopio, that works for me on a click package created with Qt Creator and then manually installed with pkcon. Perhaps something click-buddy is doing?
[15:01] <elopio> dpm: you move the click with adb push and then pkcon -i ?
[15:01] <elopio> I can try that.
[15:02] <dpm> elopio, yes, adb push and then pkcon install-local
[15:03] <dpm> but the other thing I did was that I didn't create the package with click-buddy, but with Qt Creator. I can put my package somewhere online for you to try, and perhaps compare it with the one from click-buddy?
[15:03] <elopio> same error. I'll try creating it with qtcreator.
[15:06] <beuno> popey, deleted
[15:07] <dpm> elopio, here's my .click. Just created it fresh, will install it now to try anew -> http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/click/com.ubuntu.reminders_0.5_armhf.click
[15:09] <elopio> dpm: that one works
[15:11] <dpm> elopio, are there any differences between the click packages themselves?
[15:13] <elopio> dpm: yes. Is there a way to extract the contents of the .click?
[15:13] <dpm> elopio, I generally change the extension to .deb and open it with file-roller ;)
[15:13] <dpm> there must be a more elegant way to do this, but that works for me :)
[15:14] <elopio> good enough
[15:19] <elopio> dpm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7226662/
[15:19] <elopio> I'm probably using click-buddy wrong, because it's generating the bin in x86_64-linux-gnu
[15:20] <elopio> ah, I see  click-buddy --arch armhf --provision
[15:20] <elopio> so, I found a bug just by luck. I was provisioning wrong.
[15:22] <popey> beuno: thanks
[15:23] <dpm> elopio, ah, good that you figured it out
[15:25] <elopio> dpm: now the test that I was going to do was to open online accounts on the phone, but it doesn't work. Can you try it?
[15:25] <elopio> dpm: I mean, open reminders without account, and touch the button.
[15:31] <dpm> elopio, it works for me after having removed my account on the phone. I.e. I then started reminders, saw the view with the button to open accounts, clicked on it, and then it pops up the system settings app with the online accounts view
[15:36] <dpm> elopio, so that seems to work on the phone, but it won't work on the desktop I think
[15:36]  * dpm tries
[15:39] <dpm> no, that doesn't work on the desktop
[15:39] <dpm> gvfs-open: settings:///system/online-accounts: s'ha produït un error en obrir la ubicació: No se sap gestionar la ubicació especificada
[15:39] <dpm> which translates to "error while opening location. Can't manage specified location"
[15:40] <elopio> dpm: it didn't work for me on the phone.
[15:41] <elopio> :/
[15:41] <elopio> I might need to reflash
[15:45] <dpm> elopio, I'm using image 281
[15:47] <dpm> elopio, do you have any ideas why Jenkins failed on https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/reminders-app/fix-1303763/+merge/214952 ?
[16:03] <daker> dholbach: what channel should i flash ?
[16:07] <dholbach> popey, dpm: ^ do you have an answer for daker?
[16:07] <popey> daker: what device and for what purpose?
[16:07] <dpm> dholbach, daker, I'm missing some context. What channel to flash for what?
[16:07] <daker> for the showdown
[16:08] <dpm> I'd say the stable channel - 'trusty'. What do you think, popey?
[16:08] <popey> ah for judging?
[16:08] <daker> yes
[16:09] <popey> i would use the trusty-proposed tbh
[16:10] <daker> ok
[16:13] <labsin> Anyone can tell if TilEm in the Click Store is working?
[16:16] <popey> labsin: installing...
[16:19] <popey> labsin: http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2014-04-09-171848.png
[16:21] <labsin> popey, Yay
[16:46] <elopio> dpm: dh_install: usr/manifest.json exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere
[16:46] <elopio> dh_install: usr/apparmor.json exists in debian/tmp but is not installed to anywhere
[16:46] <elopio> dh_install: missing files, aborting
[16:47] <dpm> ah, I'll need to fix debian packaging as well... thanks for spotting that out
[18:50] <labsin> Anywone knows how I can use the CLICK_MODE build without the qtcreator chroot? I would like to test the click package on my desktop
[18:53] <nikwen> Upload to the click store does not work for me any more:
[18:53] <nikwen> {"traceback": "Traceback (most recent call last):\n  File \"/srv/pkgme-service.canonical.com/production/pkgme-service/sourcecode/../src/djpkgme/tasks.py\", line 536, in run\n    logger=self.get_logger())\n  File \"/srv/pkgme-service.canonical.com/production/pkgme-service/sourcecode/../src/djpkgme/client.py\", line 66, in submit_to_myapps\n    raise CallbackError(url, 'PUT', response.status, content)\nCallbackError: PUT to https://
[18:53] <nikwen> myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/api/click-scan-complete/189/ got response 500:\n<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC \"-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN\"\n    \"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd\">\n<html xmlns=\"http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml\" xml:lang=\"en\" lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">\n    <head>\n        <title>Oops!</title>\n        <link rel=\"shortcut icon\" href=\"/assets/light/images/favicon.ico\" type=\"image/x-
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[18:54] <nikwen> Sorry for the long paste. :/
[18:57] <popey> ugh
[18:57] <popey> nikwen: do you get an error message?
[18:58] <nikwen> Yes, the one I posted and something like "Update failed". Already tried resubmitting.
[18:59] <popey> i am not going to try and pick the error out of all that html
[18:59] <popey> can you extract the error message?
[18:59] <nikwen> I'll do, wait a moment.
[18:59] <rpadovani> nikwen, next time use !paste ;-)
[18:59] <rpadovani> paste.ubuntu.com
[19:00] <nikwen> Yes, I'll do. Sorry for that. Didn't notice the message was that long.
[19:01] <nikwen> Need to update the app version, again.
[19:06] <nikwen> popey: Ok, submitted a new click package. Here's the error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7227652/
[19:07] <popey> that looks bad. beuno or JamesTait ^^
[19:07] <nikwen> Yes, it does. :(
[19:09] <zonovroman> Hello everybody!
[19:09] <nikwen> Oh, and before that the page was not available for some time.
[19:09] <popey> hello zonovroman
[19:16] <beuno> popey, ouch
[19:17] <beuno> looking
[19:17] <popey> thanks
[19:17] <nikwen> beuno: Thanks. :)
[19:18] <alaak> Hi. Is there currently some problem with the Ubuntu Touch App submission process? I constantly get a Server Error on resubmitting my App.
[19:18] <nikwen> alaak: Yes, me, too.
[19:18] <nikwen> beuno is looking into it.
[19:19] <alaak> ok. so maybe later. thanks for the information.
[19:19] <nikwen> alaak: No problem. ;)
[19:20] <beuno> yes, apologies
[19:20] <popey> beuno: today is the last day of the app showdown, hence the increased number of submissions
[19:20] <beuno> right
[19:24] <pmcgowan> popey, hows it looking, lots of apps?
[19:25] <nikwen> pmcgowan: Hope so.
[19:33] <daker> hi popey
[19:34] <daker> while flashing the Recovery menu popup, what option should i select ?
[19:34] <daker> ah ok it works now
[19:37] <beuno> popey, nikwen, it's going to take a while to figure out what the problem is
[19:38] <beuno> can we push the deadline to tomorrow so people don't panic?
[19:38] <popey> ugh
[19:38] <nikwen> Would be great as it's quite late here.
[19:38] <popey> jono_: ^^
[19:39] <beuno> nikwen, what's your app called?
[19:40] <nikwen> It's called "Cantata".
[19:41] <nikwen> I've submitted version 0.1.2 some hours ago but every more recent version failed.
[19:41] <nikwen> Package: com.ubuntu.developer.nikwen.cantata-touch
[19:42] <jono_> beuno, popey sure
[19:43] <beuno> sorry about this
[19:43] <popey> jono_: can you announce and I'll help spread?
[19:46] <nikwen> Does that mean it will definitely be later?
[19:47] <james_w> nikwen: I'm pretty sure it will work if you have time to retry a couple of times
[19:47] <james_w> nikwen: I believe the problem is intermittent
[19:47] <james_w> I understand if you don't have time to do that though
[19:47] <nikwen> james_w: Why do you think so?
[19:47] <james_w> we have a fix in progress hopefully
[19:48] <james_w> nikwen: because our current belief is that the problem is a race condition
[19:48] <nikwen> How many times do you think will I have to submit it? Already tried three times...
[19:48] <james_w> manifesting due to the increased number of uploads as we approach the deadlne
[19:48] <james_w> nikwen: I have no idea sorry
[19:48] <james_w> nikwen: probably not worth trying again then
[19:49] <nikwen> Hm, I'll try it again though. Can't hurt...
[19:49] <zonovroman> popey, jono_, beuno, one question: I have 3 apps, in then I fill a form, I have a choice about t-shirt. Is it only for winners or for contesters? I want to present one to my girlfriend;)
[19:54] <nikwen> beuno: And after the update it tells me "You are required to upload the current version of your application." When I click on the link, I get another error though.
[19:54] <nikwen> Server error: OOPS-629e2646938d4aa098344d93eb5d5571
[19:54] <beuno> james_w, ^
[19:55] <popey> zonovroman: i think it's one per person
[19:55] <zonovroman> popey, it's a pity(
[19:55] <james_w> nikwen: ok, that's the same error
[19:55] <james_w> nikwen: we'll work on getting the fix out ASAP
[19:55] <popey> zonovroman: get your girlfriend to submit an app ☻
[19:55] <nikwen> james_w: Ok, thanks.
[19:56] <nikwen> james_w: Is the fix ready yet?
[19:56] <james_w> nikwen: nope
[19:56] <nikwen> james_w: Because you mentioned "the" fix...
[19:56] <james_w> right
[19:57] <james_w> we're pretty sure we know what the fix is
[19:57] <james_w> someone is working on the branch right now
[19:57] <nikwen> Ok, great. :)
[19:57] <zonovroman> Hm...really good idea! Thanks, popey.
[20:02] <jono_> popey,
[20:03] <jono_> sure, one sec
[20:04] <jono_> popey, done
[20:04] <popey> jono_: nice one, thanks
[20:09] <daker> popey: how can i change the DNS ?
[20:09] <daker> on the phone
[20:10] <popey> daker: never tried...
[20:10] <popey> i control dns on my router
[20:10] <popey> dish it out via dhcp to all clients
[20:11] <nikwen> jono_: What time will it exactly end at? 23:59 UTC again?
[20:12] <popey> nikwen: yes, an extra day
[20:12] <nikwen> popey: Thanks. :)
[20:31] <james_w> anyone know who owns ubupocket?
[20:33] <justcarakas_> and what time is it now
[20:34] <james_w> 20:34 UTC
[20:34] <justcarakas_> hmmm stresssss still finishing up
[20:36] <pmcgowan> justcarakas_, popey deadline extended one day yes?
[20:40] <justcarakas_> pmcgowan ? what do we also have tomorrow ?
[20:40] <justcarakas_> do we get an extra 24 hours ?
[20:40] <nikwen> justcarakcas_: https://plus.google.com/114419073019603780828/posts/8tcvNJpUejh
[20:41] <pmcgowan> justcarakas_, good news and bad news ;)
[20:41] <nikwen> pmcgowan: Exactly
[20:41] <popey> pmcgowan: yes
[20:42] <labsin> yay
[20:42] <pmcgowan> popey, should that be in the topic? or will no one see it there anyway
[20:42] <popey> nobody reads the topic
[20:42] <pmcgowan> ya
[20:44] <gerlowskija> What does the 'avengers' tag mean on a launchpad bug?
[20:44] <popey> gerlowskija: nothing really, just that they were reported by a bunch of specific people
[20:45] <nikwen> Will it be worth waiting for the fix for the sake of calming down or will it still take > 30 minutes? (I undestand that it takes time and am not trying to rush you. ;))
[20:45] <beuno> nikwen, we know what the problem is now, we have a fix
[20:45] <beuno> but I think it will take more than 30 minutes to do due diligence, QA the patch and deploy
[20:47] <nikwen> Hm, good and bad. Hoped to get it done today. Anyway, thanks for your help, I'll publish it tomorrow.
[20:47] <nikwen> Bye. :)
[20:50] <labsin> still anyone in for some testing? (A Poker game, but with a shamelessly copied desktop UI)
[20:51] <justcarakas_> im benifiting from these delays, I had to lay in bed for a week because I had a concusion, tought I wouldn't get a lot of features in the app that I wanted in, but now it seems that I'll get a bunch more things in it :D
[20:52] <beuno> you're welcome!
[20:52] <beuno> :)
[20:59] <justcarakas_> how many original html5 apps are already submitted or is that a secret
[20:59] <popey> justcarakas_: we don't reveal that until after the showdown finishes
[21:00] <popey> I can say it's non-zero though ☻
[21:00] <justcarakas_> popey, haha okey, I knew it wasn't zero because I'm one of them :p
[21:01] <popey> hah
[21:01] <justcarakas_> my girlfriend isn't too happy with the delay, an extra evening that she loses me to my pc :p
[21:02] <popey> She has time to learn javascript and beat you at the showdown then ☻
[21:04] <justcarakas_> would be nice if I could learn her popey, but I already have her little brother as aprentice :p
[21:04] <justcarakas_> *teach
[21:05] <justcarakas> anybody here checked out BE Mobile ? working on enableling English now :p
[21:37] <nik90> popey: I found out that the ubuntu-system-settings got installed on my trusty automatically. If I try removing it, it seems to also remove account-plugin-ubuntuone ubuntu-system-settings ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts unity-scope-click
[21:39] <justcarakas> what do I need to select for the framework to upload ?
[21:40] <justcarakas> if I select 14.04 does that mean it cant run on 13.10 ?
[21:43] <popey> nik90: ubuntu-system-settings is fine
[21:44] <popey> nik90: there's another one for the phone, which is different i think...
[21:44] <justcarakas> popey do you also know the answer to my question ?
[21:46] <popey> justcarakas: yes
[21:46] <popey> justcarakas: you can be 99% sure nobody is using 13.10
[21:46] <popey> certainly all the judges in the showdown will be using 14.04
[21:47] <justcarakas> okey, so I select 14.04 html dev than ?
[21:49] <justcarakas> popey, and is the html5 theme 0.1 the most recent ? or is there a newer one ? if so where can I find it (sorry for all the questions)
[21:50] <popey> justcarakas: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Click/Frameworks
[21:50] <popey> ☻
[22:07] <justcarakas> popey, when I create my click package I get this error:" Json Parse Error: illegal value " did I do something wrong there ?
[22:07] <popey> possibly, yes. check your manifest.json
[22:09] <justcarakas> popey: my manifest.json is created by the sdk :s
[22:09] <justcarakas> popey: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7228348/
[22:12] <popey> also check your appname.json file
[22:15] <justcarakas> {     "policy_groups": [         "networking"     ],     "policy_version": 1.1 } looks normal to me
[23:01] <james_w> anyone around who has been having trouble uploading their app to the store?
[23:07] <james_w> the problem some were having earlier with submitting apps to the store should now be fixed
[23:08] <james_w> if you are seeing problems  then let us know
[23:39] <popey> james_w: thanks


[03:23] <twb> lilstevie: does your load average always exceed 1?
[03:23] <twb> Mind does, it seems weird
[03:23] <twb> There's nothing in the process tree to account for it
[03:26] <lilstevie> no
[03:26] <lilstevie> mine does not
[03:26] <lilstevie> mine rarely exceeds 0.5
[03:32] <twb> Grmph
[03:32] <twb> Min is usually 1.02 to 1.08, I suspect the 1 is that stupid resize2fs or something
[03:33] <lilstevie> lolwut
[03:34] <lilstevie> you know that program quits out as soon as it has finished its job right
[03:34] <twb> Then why do I get printks about kinteractiveup hanging?
[03:36] <twb> { dmesg | grep -2 kinteractiveup; ps u 61; }| pastebinit ==> http://paste.debian.net/149581/
[03:41] <lilstevie> I get them too, but what makes you think that is resize2fs causing them
[03:42] <lilstevie> fwiw I even get them when running a stock asus android rom
[03:44] <twb> lilstevie: uh, because kinteractiveup is the kernel side of resize2fs
[03:45] <twb> At least that's what google indicated, I haven't RTFS
[03:45] <twb> If you're getting them from android then I'll RTFS now since I am likely wrong
[03:45] <lilstevie> ok, but that has been a problem since long before resize2fs invoked
[03:46] <twb> OK, then ignore me :-)
[03:46] <twb> I'd still like to know where the load is from, tho...
[03:48] <lilstevie> also I googled kinteractiveup to see where you got this information from and nothing of the sort showed up
[03:49] <twb> I may have asked it leading questions like googling for "resize2fs AND kinteractiveup" :P
[03:49] <twb> I mean it's an interactive fs resize, it needs kernel help, it seemed reasonable to me... :-(
[03:50] <lilstevie> and the only results on google are you mentioning resize2fs and kinteractiveup in this room
[03:51] <twb> Grmph
[03:51] <twb> https://duckduckgo.com/lite?q=kinteractiveup%20resize2fs has a few
[03:51]  * lilstevie starts searching the kernel source tree for kinteractiveup
[03:52] <lilstevie> twb: none of those really mention the two together, well except the first one and I would say that is unrelated :)
[03:53] <twb> Mea culpa
[03:53] <lilstevie> and infact I probably can kill the kinteractiveup thing quite easily
[03:53] <lilstevie> it is the cpu govener
[03:53] <twb> Oh!
[03:53] <lilstevie> the symbol "kinteractiveup" belongs to /drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_interactive.c
[03:54] <lilstevie> a simple grep of the kernel source gave that :)
[03:54] <lilstevie> but see I have it marked as low priority so I never looked
[03:54] <twb> Can't find it in the 3.2 source, which is the only one I have handy
[03:54] <lilstevie> now I know what it is though, dead
[03:54] <twb> Yay
[03:54] <lilstevie> well that is funny, cause the source I am using is based from the 3.2
[03:54] <twb> I accidentally helped
[03:54] <twb> I'm probably Doing It WrongTM
[03:55] <twb> I don't even have a drivers/cpufreq/cpufreq_interactive.c ...
[03:55] <lilstevie> lol
[03:55] <twb> Does git blame say where it's from?
[03:55] <twb> I mean I just pulled thirty seconds ago
[03:55] <twb> v3.2-rc6-38-g390f998
[04:00] <lilstevie> that does not sound like an asus pull just fyi
[04:01] <lilstevie> but it is an androidification patched into the tree
[04:01] <twb> Stupid google
[04:11] <lilstevie> heh
[04:11] <twb> Well, at least I'm not trying to run Debian/kFreeBSD on this thing
[04:13] <lilstevie> lol
[07:00] <asiekierka> hello
[07:02] <asiekierka> lilstevie - i'm using one of your ubuntu ARM images for the asus eee pad transformer... how do I get GLES up and running
[07:02] <asiekierka> or is it already up and running and i'm just doing something wrong
[07:03] <lilstevie> asiekierka: you don't :)
[07:03] <lilstevie> it is not a supported configuration at this point in time
[07:03] <lilstevie> well, you can; but you need to know how to compile u-boot
[07:04] <asiekierka> well to be honest the current dualboot situation i use is linux normal, android recovery
[07:04] <lilstevie> yes well you won't have that
[07:05] <asiekierka> another bootloader? is that really needed, is there no kernel with the drivers or even just the drivers themselves?
[07:05] <asiekierka> does the bootloader unlock something or is there some magic going on i don't know about
[07:07] <asiekierka> if that's too complex to explain then just say it's magic
[07:09] <lilstevie> no its quite simple really
[07:09] <lilstevie> the kernel does not work properly on the asus bootloader
[07:09] <asiekierka> :o
[07:09] <asiekierka> that's new
[07:10] <lilstevie> nono the 2.6.38 kernel
[07:10] <asiekierka> i mean, this information
[07:10] <asiekierka> the fact the kernel doesn't work properly is new
[07:10] <lilstevie> oh :p I have said it a few times
[07:10] <lilstevie> the muromec ported kernel is based off working with u-boot
[07:10] <asiekierka> i just found it
[07:10] <lilstevie> and it has a hell of a time working on the asus bootloader
[07:10] <asiekierka> i found an uboot binary by muromec
[07:11] <asiekierka> as i'm scared of bricking my phone to death
[07:11] <asiekierka> err, tablet
[07:11] <lilstevie> clocking is all whacked, the emmc driver doesn't work around the asus custom layout
[07:11] <asiekierka> i'm scared of bricking my tablet forever, is it safe enough?
[07:11] <lilstevie> also you cannot brick :)
[07:11] <lilstevie> APX will always be there to save your ass
[07:11] <lilstevie> but the muromec binary will not work for you :)
[07:11] <asiekierka> oh. so i have to compile it myself.
[07:11] <asiekierka> any instructions or do i have to use magic
[07:11] <asiekierka> and figure it out myself
[07:12] <lilstevie> I customised the bootloader a little more to be a bit more normal
[07:12] <lilstevie> grab it from my git
[07:12] <asiekierka> alright
[07:12] <asiekierka> as i have to go soon, when i grab the uboot, what's the next step
[07:12] <lilstevie> but you flash u-boot you say goodbye to booting android
[07:12] <asiekierka> ...dammit.
[07:12] <lilstevie> you *can* boot 2.6.38 with a microsd
[07:12] <Pratik_> Hello All, I am not able to install flash player on my OMAP device running ubuntu 10.10
[07:12] <lilstevie> just YMMV
[07:13] <asiekierka> lilstevie well i probably use ubuntu more than android by now so...
[07:13] <asiekierka> also do i need a different kernel
[07:13] <asiekierka> i used a hacked one from the topic with the hacked touchpad support
[07:13] <asiekierka> that was a few months ago
[07:13] <lilstevie> oh wow, no need to use that one :p
[07:13] <asiekierka> before there was any kind of official touchpad support
[07:13] <lilstevie> the newer kit includes that kind of stuff
[07:13] <asiekierka> oh good
[07:13] <asiekierka> so i grab everything from your git, correct?
[07:14] <lilstevie> and wifi working with network manager
[07:14] <lilstevie> I would say, wait a few days :)
[07:14] <asiekierka> why so?
[07:14] <asiekierka> are you doing something special
[07:14] <lilstevie> enough people have been asking about u-boot so I am going to enable it in the next release
[07:14] <asiekierka> okay
[07:14] <asiekierka> i will wait a few days
[07:14] <asiekierka> thanks, bye
[07:15] <lilstevie> np
[07:15] <Pratik_> I am not able to install flash player on my OMAP device running ubuntu 10.10, Could you help me?
[07:16] <lilstevie> flash is not supported on an arm target
[07:17] <twb> Because adobe are foss-hostile douchebags
[07:18] <twb> You don't need it anyway, just tell youtube to use HTML5
[07:18] <twb> I guess gnu thingoflash might work on arm, inasmuch as it works anywhere...
[07:19] <micahg> Pratik_: try gnash or lightspark
[07:19] <twb> Yeah, gnash was what I was thinking of
[07:20] <Pratik_> ok will it as adobe flash player 10?
[07:20]  * micahg plans on SRUing gnash when they make another stable release
[07:20] <Pratik_> thank you
[07:21] <micahg> Pratik_: well, the non-armel one in natty does :-/, idk about the one in maverick
[07:22] <Pratik_> ok
[07:22] <Pratik_> i will try this
[07:24] <Pratik_> actually I want to take camera input flash.
[07:25] <twb> WTF is "camera input flash" ?
[07:26] <Pratik_> web cam input to running flash in web browser
[07:26] <Pratik_> to stream it to rtmp server like red5 and wowza
[07:27] <twb> That's horrible
[07:27] <lilstevie> lol
[07:29] <twb> Which web monkey thought it was a good idea to give the RPC sandbox access to raw hardware
[07:29] <twb> (Don't argue; flash is just as much an RPC as PostScript.)
[09:52] <doko> lool, ogra_, janimo: do we know all the packages, where neon code is built explicitly?
[09:52] <janimo> doko, you mean where there's neon assembly code activated based on hwcaps at runtime?
[09:53] <janimo> I am not sure we have a list
[09:54] <doko> janimo, either this or where a neon variant is built explicitly
[09:55] <janimo> doko, I hope we do not have any hardcoded neon builds, if we do it is a bug we overlooked
[09:55] <janimo> most cases should be optional runtime toggles and I know qt has that of the main packages we touched often
[09:56] <janimo> also libav
[09:56] <doko> janimo, looks like we need to identify all these to get them rebuilt after a toolchain fix
[09:56] <janimo> doko, is there a neon related bug?
[09:57] <doko> yes
[11:04] <ogra_> doko, i only remember pixman ... probably cairo too
[11:05] <ogra_> doko, we definitely *shouldnt* have any packages that are neon only
[11:58] <ogra_> janimo, https://bugs.launchpad.net/gcc-linaro/+bug/903951
[11:58] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 903951 in linaro-android "The kernel on staging-panda does not boot with the 11.12 released toolchain " [Critical,Confirmed]
[11:58] <janimo> ogra_, hmm, sounds like our ac100 issue?
[11:59] <ogra_> yep
[11:59]  * janimo checks
[11:59] <ogra_> and we should see it on other boards soon too
[11:59] <janimo> that woudl rule out old kernel tree bugs, as panda has a much newer kernel
[11:59] <ogra_> gar, the nvidia driver just killed all font rendering
[11:59]  * ogra_ restarts X
[12:00] <janimo> ogra_, the new tegra l4t driver?
[12:02] <lilstevie> I hate it when that happens
[12:02] <lilstevie> janimo: I would guess alpha :p it was very common for me
[12:03] <janimo> I hope the beta is better :)
[12:03] <ogra_> janimo, right, the one from precise
[12:04]  * ogra_ is on vacation, so its ac100 time :)
[12:04] <lilstevie> heh ouch
[12:04] <lilstevie> so beta doesn't fix that issue then I take it
[12:04] <ogra_> well
[12:04] <ogra_> its oneiric i test on
[12:05] <ogra_> we'll see how it behaves on precise
[12:05] <lilstevie> it happened quite frequently with L4T alpha and oneiric on the tf101
[12:05] <lilstevie> maybe 2/3 times a day
[12:05] <ogra_> seems for oneiric the alternatives are wrong
[12:06] <ogra_> also console switching is still broken
[12:06] <ogra_> and suspend doesnt bring up the backlight on resume
[12:06] <ogra_> beyond that it works great#
[12:06] <ogra_> hdmi plugging is immediately recognized and gets me full 1080p
[12:07] <lilstevie> thats nice
[12:07] <ogra_> the overall load of the system as well as ram usage has dropped significantly
[12:07] <lilstevie> my hdmi plug wouldn't recognise with alpha
[12:08] <ogra_> es2gears runs with about 2000frames
[12:09] <ogra_> i think the font issue was flash ... i was testing that alongside
[12:10] <lilstevie> lol nice
[12:11]  * ogra_ curses gnome-power-manager for not keeping the backlight setting
[12:12] <ogra_> wow, even the dash comes up at a usable speed now
[12:12] <lilstevie> heh nice
[12:12] <ogra_> around 3sec ... vs 15 or so
[12:12] <lilstevie> dash is a little slow on fbdev
[12:12] <lilstevie> yeah
[12:12] <ogra_> yep
[12:13] <xranby> ogra_: are you running with the 256kb default stack on this setup as well?
[12:13] <ogra_> i always blamed disk IO ... but that doesnt seem to be it
[12:13] <xranby> for pthreads?
[12:13] <ogra_> i seem to, yes
[12:14] <marvin24> lilstevie: hdmi problem is know and fixed if janimo pulls again ;-)
[12:14] <lilstevie> marvin24: not ac100
[12:15] <marvin24> ah, sorry
[12:15] <lilstevie> tf101
[12:15] <marvin24> so tf101 has 2000 fps?
[12:15] <lilstevie> no, ogra is talking ac100
[12:15] <lilstevie> the issues I am talking about are tf101
[12:15]  * marvin24 confused again
[12:16] <janimo> marvin24, I will pull for next 3.0 upload, sure. Not sure ATM to work around the issue by forcing a build with 4.5 or wait till gcc is fixed - it appears to be raised by others too
[12:16] <lilstevie> ogra said he was getting 2k fps on es2gears
[12:16] <ogra_> right
[12:16] <ogra_> i said that in #ac100 before
[12:16] <ogra_> but since janimo isnt a resident there anymore i repeated it here :)
[12:17] <marvin24> janimo: you can build with the recommended option
[12:17] <janimo> yeah, I was unable to keep tabs on everything happening on that channel :)
[12:17] <ogra_> heh
[12:17] <lilstevie> heh'
[12:18] <marvin24> ogra_: you said 460 on #ac100
[12:18]  * ogra_ wishes we would find a quirk for suspend/resume
[12:18] <marvin24> and this is the value I also get
[12:18] <janimo> marvin24, right, more or less same amount of change as forcing 4.5. Just wondering it should do any toolchain workaround at all, or wait till it is fixed, it should not be more than a week or two since it appears serious
[12:18] <ogra_> marvin24, 2000 frames .... 400 something FPS
[12:18] <lilstevie> I'm only in #ac100 cause ogra recommended it for kernel stuff
[12:18] <janimo> ogra_, suspend/resume broken only with the L4T driver right?
[12:19] <janimo> are there no issues it was released for 2.6.36 only?
[12:19] <ogra_> janimo, yep, backlight doesnt seem to come back
[12:19]  * ogra_ treis console switching again without having a broken flash running
[12:21]  * janimo contemplates building Libreoffice on the ac100
[12:21] <janimo> panda would likely be faster though
[12:25] <ogra_> well, that didnt go so well
[12:25] <ogra_> i can switch to the console and also switch consoles then ... but as soon as i switch back to X everything hangs hard
[12:26]  * ogra_ will try precise later today ... that requires an armel resinatll though
[12:26] <ogra_> *reinstall
[12:27] <janimo> xranby, hi, I suppose the mmap() bug you reported is still present on the ac100. Can you check if it is ok with the 3.0 kernel you tried?
[12:27] <janimo> I applied the supposed fix to the 2.6.38 branch for oneiric but I still got an error with the app built from your original .c file attached to the bug report
[12:27] <ogra_> janimo, oh, btw did you check what mmap_min_addr is defaulting to in the ac100 build ?
[12:27] <janimo> context for others https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/861296
[12:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 861296 in linux-ac100 "mmap fails to allocate 2030Mb heap on ARM" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[12:27] <ogra_> seems it was wrong in all our arm kernels
[12:28] <xranby> janimo: i will check in a minute
[12:28] <janimo> ogra_, I did not as it was mentioned in that bug ac100 is fine :)
[12:28] <ogra_> (should be 32k but it was 64... only procps saved us from hard locking)
[12:28] <janimo> but I could double check I guess
[12:28] <janimo> ogra_, it is 32K in precise now
[12:29] <ogra_> ogra@horus:~$ grep MMAP_MIN /boot/config-2.6.38-1001-ac100
[12:29] <ogra_> CONFIG_DEFAULT_MMAP_MIN_ADDR=32768
[12:29] <ogra_> yep, looks fine
[12:29] <janimo> yep
[12:29] <ogra_> thats oneiric :)
[12:29] <ogra_> so it was always right
[12:29] <janimo> so same in both cases as the configs are the same ,more or less
[12:29] <ogra_> yay for community kernels *g*
[12:29] <janimo> :)
[12:29] <janimo> yay for sheer luck :)
[12:29] <ogra_> heh
[12:30] <ogra_> well, i created the vers first config after a lucid panda kernel
[12:30] <ogra_> *very
[12:30] <ogra_> i guess that value was always just carried over
[12:30] <janimo> so panda was not affected either?
[12:30] <lilstevie> ac100 has an awesome community :p
[12:30] <ogra_> it was
[12:30] <ogra_> but the breakage occured in natty for panda iirc
[12:30] <ogra_> lilstevie, definitely
[12:30] <xranby> janimo: i have to activate some swap in order to run that test on my ac100
[12:30] <ogra_> i wish we had more such communities for other devices
[12:31] <janimo> xranby, so it only triggers with swap?
[12:31] <janimo> can it be reproduces w/o swap but other alloc size?
[12:31]  * ogra_ is really impressed how the nvidia driver seems to have sped up the world on this device
[12:31] <lilstevie> ogra_: heh I wish the tf101 had as awesome of a community
[12:31] <janimo> xranby, anyway you know better. The 3.0 kernel has the two changes applied that are supposed to fix it so I hope all is well
[12:31] <xranby> janimo: no but you cant pass the test without 4Gb of memory
[12:32] <xranby> so you need to add swap since the ram on the ac100 are too limited
[12:32] <lilstevie> as it stands the tf101 community is, well me Lo
[12:32] <janimo> lilstevie, if it only was as easy to boot and rewrite as the ac100 :) I hear it is locked down in newer models
[12:32] <lilstevie> janimo: that is correct
[12:32] <janimo> xranby, ah, had no idea. Will add more swap when testing my oneiric backport then
[12:33] <lilstevie> well not so much newer model
[12:33] <lilstevie> the only difference is the production run
[12:33] <xranby> janimo: the test passed on the 3.0 ac100 kernel running armhf using 3gb of swap
[12:33] <xranby> \o/
[12:37] <janimo> xranby, thanks, great
[12:37] <janimo> I'll more confidently test for the SRU kernel then :)
[12:39]  * ogra_ wonders why he has a "zaurus" module loaded
[12:46] <ogra_> hmm, and shouldnt i see some tegrafb stuff in dmesg ?
[12:46] <ogra_> i suspect thats the bit breaking console switching
[12:50] <ogra_> hmm, tegrafb is set on my kernel
[13:00] <ogra_> hmm, the kernel thats shipped in L4T has the backlight lcd driver enabled
[13:00] <ogra_> i wonder if it relies on this for resume
[13:05] <ogra_> hmm, we have LCD compiled in ... while they have it as module
[13:19]  * ogra_ finds it really intresting that hsi system stays below 300MB using the binary driver ... with the same set of apps open i usually got it using all RAm and at least 100-200M swap
[13:20] <ogra_> oh, i so wish we had an armhf version :(
[13:21] <lilstevie> :(
[13:22] <ogra_> it would fly !
[13:22] <lilstevie> yeah
[13:23] <lilstevie> hf really does fly comparitivly
[13:23] <ogra_> right
[13:23] <ogra_> and el flies with the binary driver
[13:23] <lilstevie> heh
[13:24] <lilstevie> I wish I had a stable kernel
[13:24] <lilstevie> for accel
[13:29] <ogra_> hmpf
[13:29]  * ogra_ has a hanging totem that even doesnt let the ps output finish
[13:29] <ogra_> killing doesnt help either
[13:29]  * ogra_ reboots
[13:30] <ogra_> hmm, or not ...
[13:30] <ogra_> even reboot hangs
[13:30] <ogra_> time for a hard reset
[13:31] <lilstevie> lol
[15:56] <lool> doko: I don't have a list, however I tried to have such NEON flavors only be built when the toolchain does *not* default to NEON, I did that in a couple of packages, a bit like the vfp pass on Debian armel and not Ubuntu armel by checking whether vfp is turned on or not
[15:56] <lool> I think that's what we should generally do, so that if someone rebuilds Debian/Ubuntu sources with different toolchain defaults, he gets the best thing
[16:19] <doko> lool, right, but do you still know which packages you did touch?
[16:19] <doko> GrueMaster, kernel test ping
[16:20] <GrueMaster> I'm here (but not necessarily awake).
[16:20] <GrueMaster> What would you like tested?
[16:21] <doko> GrueMaster, the linux-ti-omap, just copied into oneiric-proposed
[16:22] <GrueMaster> Is there a specific test you need or just run my normal SRU test suite?
[16:24] <doko> just your tests, and maybe the test case in bug 861296, although I already did that
[16:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 861296 in linux-ac100 "mmap fails to allocate 2030Mb heap on ARM" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/861296
[16:27] <GrueMaster> One of my tests actually hits that, so I'll see pass/fail fairly easily (test takes ~1.5 hours to run though).
[16:29] <GrueMaster> Starting job now.  Will post results in a few hours (have to reimage as part of the test, and other tests take time).
[16:30] <janimo> GrueMaster, is omap4 armhf image in good shape? I need to set it up to build Libreoffice on the panda
[16:31] <GrueMaster> I reimaged on Saturday and it seemed ok (netinstall).  Haven't checked the daily pre-installed.  I can fire one up here very quickly if you want.
[16:37] <kinta> Hello,  what tablet do you think is working better with ubuntu? (i am planning to get new one)
[16:41] <doko> janimo, armhf chroot should be enough
[16:42] <janimo> doko, right but I need to test armhf more seriously so may do the full switch
[16:43] <janimo> GrueMaster, no, thanks, just wanted to make sure there's no outstanding issue so I don't find out about it at the end of the ubiquity run :)
[16:43] <GrueMaster> Well, I haven't looked at desktop in over a week (SRU automation).
[16:44] <GrueMaster> Nor server.
[16:44] <ogra_> youwill still have to manually run oem-config-remove after first login
[16:44] <ogra_> there is still a dbus bug that prevents it from running
[16:44] <GrueMaster> ogra_: That's desktop only, right?
[16:44]  * ogra_ will look into that right after vacation
[16:44] <GrueMaster> I don't remember server being an issue.
[16:44] <ogra_> i think thats server preinstalled too
[16:45] <ogra_> but not sure
[16:45] <ogra_> adam tested that one iirc
[16:45] <ogra_> i only did a few different desktop tests here
[16:45] <ogra_> and during vacation i will only do ac100
[16:46] <GrueMaster> Well, the only image I can't test at this time is mx5.  I am almost finished with SRU automation (it runs a full install and test suite from jenkins now).
[16:47] <GrueMaster> My next automation setup is server images.
[16:48] <GrueMaster> Core is already mostly automated, just need to integrate it into a daily job.  Might also expand it to run in LXC.
[17:32] <Francis_Albert> how are you ?
[17:45] <RoyK> hi all. trying to install ubuntu 11.10 on a pandaboard fails - installer restarts somewhere 75% into the installation - anyone taht knows a fix for this?
[17:48] <GrueMaster> RoyK: Yes, once the installer restarts, switch to a console (<ctrl><alt><F1>), login, and type "sudo oem-config-remove && sudo reboot".
[17:48] <GrueMaster> There is a dbus race condition that we are working to resolve.
[17:49] <GrueMaster> Won't fix in Oneiric (would require image respin), but we want it fixed in Precise.
[17:49] <doko> GrueMaster, could you ping me (and lamont) on test results? trying to convince to install the kernel from -proposed once it's tested
[17:50] <RoyK> GrueMaster: thanks
[17:51] <GrueMaster> Doko It is in testing now (since 1.5 hours ago).  Should have results in ~1 hour (The current test takes 2.5 hours according to my success history from when I tested the mmap patch).
[18:30] <infinity> ogra_: The oem-config-remove thing (A) only happens with the GTK frontend, and (B) only happens sporadically (hasn't happened to me yet this cycle).
[18:49] <GrueMaster> doko:  Kernel SRU tests passed.
[19:12] <parin> when try to install omap4 extras is syas available from "ti-ompa4-ppa" source, i hit use this source it says not found
[19:12] <parin> it says there is not a software package called "ubuntu-omap4-extras" in your current software source
[19:12] <parin> i aslo tried installing from command line same result
[19:15] <GrueMaster> parin: Which release are you trying to use?
[19:19] <parin> I am using Ubuntu 11.10
[19:20] <GrueMaster> Hmmm.  Did you to an apt-get update?
[19:21] <parin> i dont exactly remember i did that
[19:21] <parin> but i can try it now
[19:25] <parin> ok now i di update and getting package dependencies error
[19:28] <RoyK> where can I find the ubuntu-omap4-extras* packages?
[19:33] <GrueMaster> Can you type "apt-cache madison ubuntu-omap4-extras"?
[19:33] <GrueMaster> Have you tried the ti link on the unity launcher?  It should setup the ppa and install the packages for you.
[19:39] <RoyK> seems there was an apt-get update missing after the repo was added
[19:43] <GrueMaster> ah.
[19:54] <parin> i added ppa:tiomap-dev/release, applied apt-get update still not able to install
[19:57] <parin> if i do sudo apt-get install libegl1-sgx-omap4 libgles1-sgx-omap4 libgles2-sgx-omap4
[19:57] <parin> it asks me to delete some libegli-mesa packages
[19:57] <parin> is that ok?
[20:11] <infinity> Yes.
[20:28] <parin> now after installing omap4-extras i restared the pandabaord and i am gettinng errors
[20:28] <parin> ti_st_open st_register  failed -22
[20:28] <parin> and only command line access