[00:00] <KI4RO> Anyone know how to turn on the voice over feature in an IPOD thru UBUNTU?
[00:00] <KaRmA> can anyone tell me why my proftpd server on ubuntu would disconnect for no apparent reason? I am able to log right back in and I have all the timeouts set really high...
[00:00] <paco1> hello masters!
[00:01] <KaRmA> paco1, hello slave
[00:01] <makuto> When I attempt to execute the .desktop file (using the dash) nothing happens. The command I'm trying to get it to run is 'xterm -e "~/path/to/executable" ' (without single quotes)
[00:01] <jrib> makuto: what's in your .desktop file?
[00:02] <makuto> jrib: http://pastebin.com/NHCuHesp
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> KaRmA: is the service running?
[00:03] <makuto> The command doesn't work in the terminal either, so I think that's the main problem
[00:03] <dcope> hey all, i have ubuntu 12.04 on a macbook air. when i close the lid the apple stays on. any fix?
[00:03] <KaRmA> ActionParsnip, yea..... my problem is it disconnects after a minute or so even though the proftpd config file tells it not to .
[00:03] <jrib> makuto: heh, try gnome-terminal instead of xterm
[00:03] <KaRmA> ActionParsnip, sending 'NOOP' or keep alive, keeps it alive....
[00:03] <KaRmA> so I guess ill just have to do that :-\ not sure why though.
[00:04] <KaRmA> my ssh never disconnects
[00:04] <M13> hello
[00:04] <M13> is there anyone here that is good with syslinux?
[00:04] <paco1> i have a question: if it exist a tool to analyse the session of a user?
[00:05] <LinSven> How do I delete/purge old kernels? I was asked for homework to write a one line cmd that gets rid of all the old ones.
[00:06] <makuto> jrib: That worked better, but I get this error: Failed to execute child process "~/Development/gameDev/oneDayTilemap/tileEditor" (No such file or directory)
[00:06] <jrib> makuto: don't use ~
[00:06] <makuto> jrib: Alright. Also, I found it isn't where I thought it was, dumb mistake :)
[00:06] <KI4RO> LinSven, OS-uninstaller does the trick
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> LinSven:  dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'} | grep linux-image | grep -v `uname -r` | grep -v linux-image-generic        lists the excess kernels
[00:08] <jrib> makuto: also, you might look more into .desktop files. Some have "Terminal=true" and that may be more correct to use
[00:08] <LinSven> ActionParsnip thank you. I was looking at this cmd but yours seems better. sudo apt-get remove $(dpkg -l|egrep '^ii  linux-(im|he)'|awk '{print $2}'|grep -v `uname -r`)
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> LinSven: you can use backticks to then use it with apt-get
[00:09] <jrib> makuto: run this for some examples (and I'd also check the spec online): grep -r -i terminal=true /usr/share/applications
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> LinSven:  sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'} | grep linux-image | grep -v `uname -r` | grep -v linux-image-generic`
[00:09] <makuto> jrib: Ah, that did the trick! Thanks tons!
[00:09] <LinSven> Oh thx. Really new to this stuff. Installed Ubuntu today for a class we are having.
[00:10] <LinSven> Must say I like the idea of free software. Not because of the money but the idea.
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> LinSven: you have the knowledge (awk, grep. etc) That's all your tutor is really wanting you to demonstrate
[00:10] <jonjo> ActionParsnip: ever had 'locked' when transfering a movie and trying to play it?
[00:10] <makuto> jrib: And I understand the grep command, brilliant way to show me that. Thanks a lot!
[00:10] <Ben64> I don't use it for the money or the idea, I use it because it works better for me
[00:10] <LinSven> ActionParsnip yeah that was the idea I think.
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> jonjo: no, I use my sftp server and transfer that way.
[00:11] <teslas_moustache> got it. The files in that directory were all empty anyway. I don't know why it wasn't created automatically, but my files should be popping up in /tmp/restore pretty soon. Thanks for the deceptively simple advice.
[00:12] <PDun> Anyone know of a way to set up a proxy to be able to view the data that is sent through it?
[00:13] <FLeiXiuS> My ubiquity success commands don't execute at the end even though syntactically it's correct.  Was this removed in 12.04 installs?
[00:14] <jonjo> PDun have you read the tsocks man pages?
[00:14] <brightspark> PDun, check out the bridged mode provided by ettercap.  Haven't used it myself so can't be of much further assistance unfortunately.
[00:14] <M13> I have a Question: 'make menuconfig' is not working
[00:14] <tompa> how do i know which driver i should use? I have a Asus 560ti and have 4 different options to choose between ("additional drivers" software)
[00:15] <M13> i get a error : libtinfo.so.1 is not found
[00:15] <M13> please help
[00:15]  * Naughx gives LinSven a warm welcome to the GNU/Linux world :D
[00:16] <PDun> jonjo - No
[00:16] <devnull_> tompa what drivers  what hardware ...
[00:16] <devnull_> more information required
[00:17] <Funky> How can i make ubuntu notifications direct me to the applications that sending the issued the notifcation?
[00:17] <devnull_> idk if it works that way funky
[00:18] <Funky> oh =(
[00:19] <devnull_> have you searched google yet
[00:19] <brightspark> Is the Cinnamon DE in the repos for the new ubuntu?
[00:19] <Orphis> How can I resolve windows machine hostname from ubuntu? I've tried installing winbind and adding wins to nsswitch.conf (just after files) and it's not working
[00:19] <Orphis> How can I troubleshoot it?
[00:19] <devnull_> brightspark idk did you check ?
[00:20] <brightspark> I checked on mine- it's not in the repos on Maverick, but that doesn't mean much.
[00:20] <devnull_> well why don't you search the repos for 12.10 then
[00:21] <raphytaffy> can anyone walk me through installing C/C++ compiler tools for netbeans IDE?
[00:21] <raphytaffy> i have netbeans installed, i just need to install the compiler tools
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> brightspark: there are no repos for Maverick
[00:21] <KyleYankan> Hey #ubuntu, I have a question. I'm trying to connect my Canon 50D (which doesn't support USB Mass storage) to get some images off. Shotwell sees the camera, but says it's locked by another application. No other image applications are open. I do get a weird error wehn I plug the camera in, with no applications open: "Error initializing camera: -1: Unspecified error"
[00:21] <bentinata> hello
[00:22] <brightspark> devnull_, does that involve fiddling with the sources file?
[00:22] <brightspark> ActionParsnip, yep; I noticed that.
[00:22] <bentinata> #ubuntu
[00:22] <brightspark> ActionParsnip, however, aptitude still lists packages for download.
[00:22] <bentinata> k
[00:22] <devnull_> brightspark, i would suppose since you are on IRC you also have web access ?
[00:23] <bentinata> a
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> brightspark: wit will untill you clear the available packages on your system.
[00:23] <bentinata> hello
[00:23] <hydruid> I am having issues running a bash script, when I wget it from Github it won't run, but when I manually create it everything is fine......what causes that?
[00:23] <usr13> KyleYankan: Maybe just take the memory card out and use a card reader?
[00:23] <devnull_> hydruid, is it executable ?
[00:24] <brightspark> devnull_, correct
[00:24] <hydruid> devnull_: it's a .sh
[00:24] <devnull_> brightspark, then search ubuntus repo for the latest version and see if it is a listed package
[00:24] <Ben64> cinnamon isn't in ubuntu
[00:24] <hydruid> devnull_: both methods I did a chmod +x script.sh before trying to run it
[00:24] <KyleYankan> usr13: No card readers
[00:24] <devnull_> hydruid, what do you mean by ... wont run
[00:25] <usr13> KyleYankan: I don't know about you, but my laptop and desktop both have build-in card readers.
[00:25] <hydruid> devnull_: it comes up with a random error, seems like it's saying there was a line error after a space
[00:25] <KyleYankan> usr13: My laptop has a SD card reader, but the 50D takes CF cards.
[00:25] <KyleYankan> Pro cameras usually do :-/
[00:25] <Naughx> Maybe it's already mounted somewhere else.
[00:25] <devnull_> hydruid, okay ... so it does run ... it just has an error
[00:25] <usr13> KyleYankan: Well, card readers are pretty low priced, probably abuot $10 or less.
[00:26] <bluebeat09> hey! can someone help me plz?
[00:26] <hydruid> devnull_: yes I can pastebin it if you want
[00:26] <devnull_> hydruid, no thank you
[00:26] <usr13> KyleYankan: When I bought my digital camera, that was the first thing I ordered and have kept it in my camera bag since then so that I always have easy access.
[00:27] <hydruid> devnull_: this is the error it gives, https://raw.github.com/hydruid/zenoss/master/install.sh
[00:27] <hydruid> oops
[00:27] <KyleYankan> usr13: Yeah, I just normally use a windows computer, but I'm currently away from any of my regular equipment
[00:27] <KyleYankan> I personally don't find a card reader necessary for my work
[00:27] <hydruid> devnull_: this is the error it gives:  Syntax error: end of file unexpected (expecting "then")
[00:27] <usr13> KyleYankan: Well, doesn't matter if it's windows or linux.
[00:28] <KyleYankan> usr13: The camera works fine on windows. I'm booting into it now to get the images I need
[00:28] <bluebeat09> can i restore ubuntu 12.10? like if it was just installed?
[00:28] <usr13> KyleYankan: There is always the possibility that some setting on the camera is blocking it.  Hard to tell from where I sit :)
[00:28] <jonjo> this ubuntu / andoid isb link sucks
[00:28] <devnull_> bluebeat09, restore what ?
[00:28] <evbogue> Ask #Ubuntu: What's the first app you install on a fresh Ubuntu install?
[00:28] <dr_willis> bluebeat09: user settings are easy to restore. system can be harder
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> bluebeat09: you can remove the configs in $HOME and get vanilla settings for apps, the things outside that will need a little more work
[00:29] <devnull_> jonjo ...   what are you trugudsknidgjj to say
[00:29] <usr13> KyleYankan: There is probably a way to access it, I would guess it is something simple, but without more info, we wouldn't be able to tell what it is.
[00:29] <dr_willis> evbogue:  poll in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> jonjo: its the single storage thing. its a bit weird
[00:29] <brightspark> devnull_, ok thanks.  finally found it.
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> jonjo: I just transfer data over the wifi and its fine
[00:29] <devnull_> hydruid, i guess you are going to learn about bash scripting today
[00:29] <KyleYankan> usr13: Not sure what to tell you. There's no lock on the camera. I'll do some more googling
[00:30] <jonjo> its too slow
[00:30] <devnull_> brightspark, yea ... they have the repos online so you can check that kind of stuff
[00:30] <bluebeat09> i installed gnome shell from u soft center, then i deleted it from there too, but now when i power up in the login screen is different, i just want to go back to the way it was
[00:30] <jonjo> what wifi speeds do you get ActionParsnip ?
[00:30] <bluebeat09> i know its not a problem+
[00:30] <bluebeat09> but i would like to do that
[00:30] <bluebeat09> i cant seem to get it right+
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> jonjo: not sure exactly, moves fast enough
[00:30] <devnull_> bluebeat ... ps ax | grep gdm  ... is gdm listed or lightgdm ?
[00:30] <nimo> can you uninstall pulse and still get audio ?
[00:30] <hydruid> devnull_: I think i just figured it out, looks like it added the dreaded ^M at the end of each line, removed them and that resovled the issue
[00:30] <usr13> KyleYankan: YOu could bring up a terminal and type   tail -f /var/log/syslog  and hit enter and watch as you  plug it in to see what clues you get.
[00:30] <tompa> Hello, i just updated my graphic drivers for my Asus Gtx 560ti card. But now after reboot everything lost its sharp. It feels like i run everything in a lower resolution (lower than 1080) even if system settings/display says it is in 1080p ... Someone who knows what to do?
[00:30] <dr_willis> bluebeat09:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lghtdm
[00:31] <brightspark> devnull_, I thought I might have to edit my sources and have aptitude pull the list that way.  Glad I didn't have to.
[00:31] <devnull_> hydruid, that would do it
[00:31] <dr_willis> bluebeat09:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> tompa: change refresh rate maybe
[00:31] <bluebeat09> ok will try this  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[00:31] <KyleYankan> Got it. Had to rub gphoto2 from the command line. It seemed that the connected would rapidly disconnect after connecting. So executing a `gphoto2 --get-all-files
[00:31] <KyleYankan> ` as soon as connected got them
[00:32] <usr13> KyleYankan: Ok, there you go.
[00:32] <devnull_> tompa .. what isn't sharp anymore ... text ? everything ?
[00:32] <jonjo> maybe it is the flash commit speed on the nexus which is the problem
[00:33] <KyleYankan> Thanks
[00:33] <tompa> actionparsnip where can i find refresh rate options?
[00:33] <usr13> KyleYankan: I've had my camera for YEARS and never plugged it into a computer.  I've always just pulled out the chip and put in the PC.
[00:33] <Ben64> tompa: nvidia-settings
[00:33] <tompa> devnull_ Yeah i think everything is more blurry
[00:33] <brightspark> ActionParsnip, I just cleaned the package cache but they didn't actually disappear
[00:34] <dcope> is there a way to mimic os x mouse settings on ubuntu?
[00:34] <devnull_> dcope what are OS X's mouse settings ?
[00:34] <devnull_> ive never used it
[00:34] <Naughx> @Usr; SD / SDHC are so much better :P
[00:35] <usr13> dcope: Not sure why you would want to.
[00:35] <dcope> devnull_: no idea, but i've put mouse sensitivy and acceleration at 0 and my mouse is still flinging around the screen
[00:35] <Ben64> devnull_: you hover over the icon and if OSX wants you to, it'll launch
[00:35] <dcope> i just need to slow it down
[00:35] <bluebeat09> i dont remeber who gave me the code but it worked+
[00:35] <bluebeat09> thx a lot
[00:35] <brightspark> dcope, is there a different tab for touchpad vs mouse?
[00:35] <devnull_> bluebeat09, <dr_willis>
[00:36] <dcope> brightspark: no, just a different "Input" dropdown. i'm using xfce
[00:36] <bluebeat09> right. thx dr_willis, simple solution
[00:36] <brightspark> dcope, ah sorry.  good luck.
[00:38] <devnull_> dcope,   usb/ps2 ?
[00:38] <dcope> devnull_: bluetooth
[00:39] <tompa> devnull_ ben64 actionparsnip i changed resolution and changed it back and then it worked ... thank you!
[00:39] <devnull_> dcope, oh .. i have never used any bluetooth devices ... not sure if there are any issues with them
[00:39] <devnull_> tompa, glad it works
[00:40] <devnull_> dcope its possible you have to change the sensitivity somewhere else
[00:40] <dcope> interesting
[00:41] <devnull_> or maybe xfce isn't setting it correctly ... havent used xfce in a lil while
[00:41] <Awolf> hello
[00:41] <dcope> devnull_: it's interesting because it works with the trackpad but not the mouse
[00:41] <dcope> even when i specifcally set it for the mouse
[00:42] <Awolf> i have ubuntu 12.-04 installed on my laptop and i want to install win 7 for dual boot i've partitioned my hd and set the partition type to hspf/ntfs 0x07
[00:42] <Awolf> but when i enter win7 installation it stops at startup and gives me the following error
[00:42] <devnull_> dcope, it is bypassing those settings ... maybe it needs to be adjusted at the X level
[00:43] <Awolf> 0xc00000e9
[00:43] <Ben64> Awolf: you should install windows first
[00:44] <devnull_> yea windows 7 doesn't play nice nice with partitions especially with linux on themn
[00:44] <Awolf> is there no turn around ?
[00:44] <Awolf> it took me a real long while to install linux and its updates :@
[00:45] <tentaclemoose> howdy folks, has anyone here had problems with 2wire(ATT) routers and linux?
[00:45] <tentaclemoose> *ubuntu
[00:46] <Ben64> Awolf: i don't know that much about windows7 install
[00:46] <Ben64> i just know it doesn't like linux at all
[00:46] <Orphis> How can I resolve windows hostnames from linux?
[00:46] <devnull_> Orphis, did you check google
[00:46] <Naughx> Yes, windows bootloader overwrites grub...
[00:46] <Orphis> devnull_: Yes, and it doesn't work
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> Awolf: what does the stop code mean?
[00:47] <Awolf> i dont mind the overwriting section i can refix grub with boot-repair
[00:47] <Orphis> devnull_: I've installed winbind and added wins to nsswitch and names can't be resolved
[00:47] <Naughx> I know, but it's just annying.
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> Orphis: could use hosts file in windows. I've configured Ubuntu to state its hostname to the router but i can't remember
[00:47] <Orphis> devnull_: My Ubuntu machine can be resolved from windows though
[00:48] <devnull_> samba ?
[00:48] <Orphis> ActionParsnip: I haven't put anything in the hosts file, it's 2012, we can autodiscover most things now
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> Orphis: in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[00:48] <Orphis> devnull_: Yes, samba is installed with nmbd to provide a name
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> Orphis: Its actually 2013.
[00:48] <Orphis> ActionParsnip: I'm lagging a little :P
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Orphis: change: send host-name "<hostname>"
[00:49] <Naughx> Yes... 8 days now...
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Orphis: to:   send host-name "actualsystemnamehere"
[00:49] <Awolf> ActionParsnip windows disk cant find the partitioned section for it i guess
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> Orphis: if you're going to have an attitude about it, at least be precise
[00:49] <Awolf> even though i did partition it into ntfs form and set it to bootable
[00:50] <{messedupmatthew> can someone help me  with my broadcom driver for my wifi?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Orphis: if the server is on static IP then hosts file is dead handy, saves having to quiz the router for something which will neve change
[00:50] <Orphis> ActionParsnip: Resolving the name from elsewhere in the network works just fine, why would changing the dhclient.conf config change anything?
[00:50] <devnull_> idk matthew how about some more details ...
[00:51] <FLeiXiuS> Anyone familiar with preseeds and late/success commands for 12.04?
[00:51] <Orphis> I'm trying to resolve a name from the linux box, there's no dhcp config there
[00:51] <devnull_> awolf is the partition logical ?
[00:51] <Orphis> (well, there is, but it isn't used for resolving winbind names really)
[00:51] <devnull_> i think windows will only install to a primary partition
[00:51] <{messedupmatthew> i am xubuntu and it says to go to the desktop menu system administration additional drivers and i cant find it?
[00:52] <devnull_> {messedupmatthew,  i don't know what software xubuntu comes with ... look for jockey in the software center
[00:52] <{messedupmatthew> jockey ok will do
[00:52] <Awolf> how can i know if it is primary or logical
[00:53] <Awolf> ?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Orphis: it makes the Ubuntu OS publish it's name to the router, if you look now it will only show an IP and a Mac address
[00:53] <devnull_> what version of ubuntu matthew ?
[00:53] <Awolf> let me try something now
[00:53] <{messedupmatthew> 12.04 i believe
[00:53] <devnull_> awolf ... well then i think you better read through some tutorials first
[00:53] <Awolf> be right back
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> Awolf: you will need to delete the partition then convert to extended, then make logical partitions
[00:53] <Orphis> ActionParsnip: I know what it does, and it's not used at all for netbios / bonjour (avahi) protocols at all
[00:53] <Awolf> ok ill do that now
[00:54] <Orphis> ActionParsnip: It's mostly used if you want the dhcp server to identify machines on the network with names instead of mac address
[00:54] <devnull_> i would imagine windows wants a primary partition because bootloaders have to be on primary partitions
[00:55] <Awolf> any suggestions as to what program i should use to partition correctly
[00:55] <Awolf> ?
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Awolf: gparted
[00:55] <devnull_> gparted
[00:55] <devnull_> Awolf, i would read some tutorials on installing windows7 after ubuntu is already installed ... you will lose grub
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Orphis: by default, the name of the Ubuntu system will not be in your router. you need to make that change and reboot (or maybe just restart networking)
[00:56] <Awolf> devnull, I can refix grub by re-inserting the live cd and installing and running boot-repair from the live cd
[00:56] <Orphis> ActionParsnip: The name doesn't need to be in the router!!! I'm not trying to have DNS resolves, but wins!
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> Awolf: you will lose grub after installing Windows, but you can boot to Ubuntu liveCD and reinstate Grub to the MBR
[00:57] <rk0n> When using unity, the sound manager allows me to set the sound beyond 100%, but with KDE I don't have that option. And the sound is very low, any idea how to access that extra volume with KDE?
[00:57] <devnull_> awolf  ... that isnt the problem its your partitioning .. you should probably read up on what windows installer is looking for
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> rk0n: tried in alsamixer?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Orphis: no idea then
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Orphis: maybe others can advise
[00:58] <rk0n> ActionParsnip, yes, everything in alsamixer is 100%
[00:58] <Naughx> Yes, this is easy with grub-install
[00:58] <devnull_> ug  kde
[00:58] <Awolf> devnull_ will do
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> rk0n: tried in #kubuntu as well?
[00:59] <devnull_> awolf .. i just don't know what its requirements are ... i wish i could help
[00:59] <rk0n> ActionParsnip, nope, but I just figured it out. Thank you!
[00:59] <Riley88> hey guys does ubuntu have a hardware database for laptops id like to post mine its rather new and everything works
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | Riley88
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[01:00] <devnull_> riley88 lucky you
[01:00] <Riley88> lol
[01:00] <devnull_> nvidia ?
[01:00] <Riley88> gotta love intel
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Riley88: aye :)
[01:01] <devnull_> i like amd ... just not so happy with ATI ... even though they are the same company now
[01:01] <devnull_> Riley88, intel hd graphics or nvidia ?
[01:01] <Riley88> intel hd
[01:02] <devnull_> finger print reader ?
[01:02] <Riley88> no
[01:02] <devnull_> special speakers ?
[01:02] <wabash> Does flash come with any of the extended repos for Ubuntu?
[01:02] <Riley88> nope
[01:02] <wabash> Or do I need to go to adobe site?
[01:02] <Riley88> webash u can choose to include flash by default
[01:02] <devnull_> wabash, there is open flash and proprietary flash
[01:03] <wbf> excuse me but I need to use minecraft on my ARM based ubuntu setup. any suggestions?
[01:03] <dr_willis> the tools in the repos download flash for you
[01:03] <wabash> devnull_: Does "open flash" work with linux well? Can you give me an example of it?
[01:03] <devnull_> Riley88, that is sweet .. im still trying to get my fingerprint reader and my subwoofer functioning
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Webu: i use chrome, works well
[01:03] <Riley88> lol
[01:03] <Riley88> mine is a newer asus
[01:03] <devnull_> newer hp dv6
[01:04] <devnull_> wabash, no i can't give an example ... it is flashplayer
[01:04] <Riley88> flash isnt really an issue on linux anymore
[01:04] <Orphis> ActionParsnip: Turns out that host is DNS only, and ping uses NSS. Thus it was working all along (if only I had used the right command to check the result)
[01:04] <devnull_> unless your on 64bit ?
[01:04] <wbf> mine is a compaq presario CQ-60 and my other is an ARM-based UG802 running ubuntu
[01:04] <Riley88> unless your on some weird oss only distro
[01:04] <dr_willis> ive no issues with flash on 64bit.
[01:05] <wabash> Riley88: devnull_:  Excellent to hear.
[01:05] <dr_willis> and i know 32bit users that have huge flash issues
[01:05] <wabash> Riley88: devnull_:  Is "open flash" the name of the codecs? Or is it a name for something else?
[01:05] <devnull_> dr_willis, ... i thought it was the old had to have 32bit browser for flash .. i guess they released 64b version
[01:05] <Riley88> its just adobe flash player
[01:05] <wbf> dr_willis, can you help me with my LWJGL problem?
[01:05] <wabash> Riley88: But it's open?
[01:05] <devnull_> wabash, its not open flash .... open as opposed to propietary
[01:06] <dr_willis> devnull_: i dont even know qhat one im using.
[01:06] <wabash> devnull_: Riley88: Right. so if I wanted to install this... what should I search for?
[01:06] <dr_willis> wbf:  no idea what lwjgl means
[01:06] <wabash> This is not "gnash" or anything messed up like that, is it?
[01:06] <devnull_> dr_willis, cool ... that means it isn't a problem ... good to hear ... i might change over to 64bit
[01:06] <Riley88> adobe flash player in the software centor
[01:06] <devnull_> wabash, idk why don't you check
[01:06] <dr_willis> wabash:  use the flash installer tools in the repos and hope it works
[01:07] <Riley88> or ubuntu restricted extras if u want dvd and mp3 codecs to
[01:07] <wbf> Who here knows about the Lightweight W (don't know what w stands for) Java Game Libary?
[01:07] <devnull_> never heard of it
[01:07] <wbf> Do you play minecraft on linux? runs off that
[01:07] <wabash> Riley88: Thank you. So "adobe flash player" is open flash, I can assume, because it's in a Ubuntu repo?
[01:07] <devnull_> no or i probably would have heard of it
[01:08] <devnull_> wabash, no
[01:08] <memand> Hey guys, I think I did somthing bad. I was messing around in the tty1 terminal (I don't know what it is actually called) and was trying to get back to my graphical interface. I ended up rebooting the machine, but now when I type my password at login it just briefly flashes some terminal that I dont have time to read and sends me back to the login screen
[01:08] <dr_willis> wabash:  there no opensoueced flash that ive seen that works well
[01:08] <Riley88> yes its not open flash its just adobe flash player
[01:08] <memand> now I'm stuck in tty mode :/
[01:08] <Riley88> gnash was kind of good
[01:08] <Riley88> is that even still updated
[01:08] <devnull_> memand, what did you do to make it reboot .... alt+ctrl+delete ?
[01:09] <dr_willis> there are flash downloader tools and flash replacer extensions you can use in the browsers for videos on some sites
[01:09] <devnull_> i think if you install chrome it will install its own flash plugin
[01:09] <memand> devnull: yes
[01:09] <wabash> devnull_: dr_willis, Riley88: thank you. So long story short -- to get flash on Ubuntu, I can find it in one of the repositories? I.E., I don't have to go to adobe's site directly?
[01:10] <devnull_> memand, alt+ctrl+ F7 to get back to X
[01:10] <Riley88> yes wabash
[01:10] <devnull_> wabash, no .. the package will get flash from adobe for you i believe
[01:10] <dr_willis> wabash:  i said warlier. the tools in the repos download it from adobe for you
[01:10] <dr_willis> !flash
[01:10] <KI4RO> Anyone know how to turn on the voice over feature in an IPOD thru UBUNTU?
[01:10] <TheLordOfTime> wabash, the package in the repositories will download it from adobe and install it, since the source for  flash is closed the package can't contain the actual code (but it can download it)
[01:11] <devnull_> KI4RO, i don't even know what that is
[01:11] <memand> devnull: nice thanks, I did not know that, but it will still not log me in for some reason
[01:11] <TheLordOfTime> devnull_, if you have no idea, don't respond, just a tidbit of advice ;)
[01:11] <KI4RO> devnull_, Okay LOL
[01:11] <dr_willis> ubuntu cant even include the flash download due to silly licensing
[01:11] <memand> devnull_: nice thanks, I did not know that, but it will still not log me in for some reason
[01:11] <Riley88> what are u talking about its in the installer
[01:11] <TheLordOfTime> KI4RO, i've never heard of that being done, but someone else may be able to.  Patience might be needed before you get an answer though.
[01:12] <wabash> TheLordOfTime: Interesting. Does it do a gpg check?
[01:12] <TheLordOfTime> wabash, uh, what?
[01:12] <KI4RO> TheLordOfTime, Thanks...been asking all throughout the day...we'll see
[01:12] <TheLordOfTime> wabash, i'm going to let dr_willis explain the package if you have such questions, apparently i need to poke something up in priority somewhere.
[01:12]  * TheLordOfTime disappears for a bit
[01:12] <devnull_> TheLordOfTime, maybe i want to know what it is so i can try and help
[01:13] <wabash> dr_willis: ?
[01:13] <dr_willis> wabash: ??
[01:13] <devnull_> wabash, just install the package
[01:13] <Riley88> for real lol
[01:14] <Riley88> sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[01:14] <Riley88> or is it just flashplugin
[01:14] <devnull_> KI4RO, the last i checked ... almost 2 years ago ... IPODs were a pain to deal with
[01:14] <dr_willis> apt-cache search flash installer
[01:14] <dr_willis> i think
[01:15] <devnull_> flashplugin-installer
[01:15] <devnull_> on 12.10
[01:15] <KI4RO> devnull_, Still are LOL
[01:15] <devnull_> i don't understand what you are trying to do though
[01:16] <KI4RO> devnull_, You asking me?
[01:16] <devnull_> yea
[01:17] <KI4RO> devnull_, I have the IPOD shuffle and there is a feature available called voice over that will announce the name of the artist and the song once you get it turned on
[01:17] <devnull_> so what does that have to do with ubuntu ?
[01:17] <demonio> hi all I have a problem
[01:17] <devnull_> KI4RO, okay .. i think i gotcha
[01:18] <demonio> i have got a double boot
[01:18] <KI4RO> devnull_, I'm asking if anyone has found an Ubuntu app that might allow you to access and turn on the feature
[01:18] <devnull_> KI4RO, your trying to set settings on your device from Ubuntu ?
[01:18] <KI4RO> devnull_, Yep
[01:18] <devnull_> there is a program .. i can't remember what it is called that will let you rip music off of an IPOD .. it might be able to communicate with it
[01:18] <demonio> linux and win7, but linux is the first to start, how can i change that?
[01:19] <KI4RO> devnull_, I have ITuNES7 running under WINE but apparently WINE can't "see" any USB devices
[01:19] <tarelerulz> Any of you have any know how when it comes to MiroHDHC card? I have it hooked in with USB card reader and SD card adapter pluged into it .  It says 10mbs ,but it doing 7-8mb .   What could be problem
[01:19] <HonestAbe> change the menu.list in grub demonio
[01:19] <HonestAbe> one sec
[01:19] <devnull_> KI4RO, it might not be that it can't see the device it might be that the device is unrecognized to linux
[01:19] <HonestAbe> that's probably not the actual name of the file
[01:19] <dr_willis> bbl
[01:20] <KI4RO> devnull_, Either way, I can't get there from here LOL.   BTW there is a program called gtkpod, but it doesn't seem able to access the features of the IPOD
[01:20] <ElectricPrism> Is anyone here up and running from the Ubuntu Mini install? (38mbs) ?
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> ElectricPrism: indeed
[01:21] <devnull_> KI4RO, thats the program ... you may want to check wine information to setup usb correctly ...
[01:21] <demonio> is anyone here that can help me to set grub?
[01:21] <demonio> or mbr
[01:21] <devnull_> tarelerulz, so you are only 2mbs off ?
[01:21] <huttala> Does anyone have any idea how I can get the GUI working for my ubuntu 12.04 installation on a AMD APU laptop? I keep getting "Error no screens found" all the time, even tho I've installed the ATI drivers and they seem to be working
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> devnull_: thats what I thought....
[01:22] <KI4RO> devnull_, I have and it seems to be a known issues...they suggest setting Virtual box or some such
[01:22] <devnull_> demonio, someone is currently answering you
[01:22] <ElectricPrism> ActionParsnip: how was the setup, I'm running arch on my laptop and Sabayon my desktop and I'm thinking of moving to Ubuntu Mini because of the Software Center, and debian packaging system
[01:22] <huttala> The laptop is dualGPU, I guess that's what messes things up.. :/
[01:22] <tarelerulz> Well, Yes is that normal ? Do you have round down ?  Like hard drive says 10 gb and you actually have 9gb
[01:22] <devnull_> KI4RO, well you will need to install windows inside of virtualbox ... wine isn't always the best solution ... im not sure if it can connect directly to USB or it still goes through the normal linux way
[01:23] <demonio> devnull_ thanks my problem is that i had install win7 and ubuntu but in the dual boot ubuntu is the first to start, so can i make in a way that is win7 to start first?
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> ElectricPrism: fine, ran the installer then ran:  sudo apt-get install fluxbox slim    and went for a shower
[01:23] <thoonai> average_drifter: hey
[01:23] <thoonai> :)
[01:23] <devnull_> demonio, yes you were already answered .. scroll up
[01:23] <HonestAbe> demonio, my current machine doesn't have a menu.lst, but go to /boot/grub/menu.lst and just move the win7 entry to the top of the list
[01:23] <ElectricPrism> cool
[01:23] <KI4RO> devnull_, Supposedly it can "see" the usb ports directly (virtualbox)
[01:24] <devnull_> KI4RO, yes virtual box can .. but i think that is because it has a kernel module ?   i think if linux doesn't see the usb device then wine won't
[01:24] <demonio> HonestAbe ok i'll try immediately
[01:24] <HonestAbe> wait!
[01:24] <devnull_> demonio, or set the default boot number to the windows number
[01:24] <HonestAbe> before you do, go read the documentation, i'd feel awful if you followed my paraphrased directions and your computer caught fire or melted or something awful
[01:25] <devnull_> lol
[01:25] <Riley88> im pretty sure u can do that in bios
[01:25] <KI4RO> devnull_, Linux can see it...rhythmbox, banshee and gtkpod all see it just fine
[01:25] <Riley88> set the boot order
[01:25] <demonio> HonestAbe i cant find menu.lst
[01:25] <devnull_> KI4RO, im not sure how that works ... they might be accessing it in a special way .. which wine can't ?
[01:26] <demonio> devnull_ where have i to go for make that?
[01:26] <KI4RO> devnull_, Nor am I
[01:26] <devnull_> demonio, where honestabe told you
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> demonio: its not used now, ubuntu uses grub2
[01:26] <devnull_> KI4RO, i wish i knew more about how that worked but im strapped for ideas ... lets see what google has to say
[01:27] <devnull_> KI4RO, seems like that is a popular topic ... itunes(wine) cant recognize ipod ... but it looks like people have fixed it
[01:28] <KI4RO> devnull_, Good luck...lots of answers but none seem to work so far...hence my reason for coming here...yep, very popular
[01:28] <devnull_> gotcha
[01:28] <aaas> getting intermittant reboots.  Not scheduled: see here: http://i.imgur.com/LzaAo.png   doesn't seem to be overheating or voltage, but had to enable those plots and will watch.  dmesg/syslog doens't reveal anything that would cause it so sounds more hardware related...any suggestions?
[01:28] <devnull_> silver rating on winehq
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> aaas: have you tested your RAM using memtest?
[01:29] <aaas> ActionParsnip no, but ill try that tonight
[01:30] <demonio> devnull_ HonstAbe I find it but i don't know what i have to change.. so can you help me?
[01:30] <devnull_> KI4RO, seems like a VM is the answer because it can directly access USB
[01:30] <demonio> my win7 is latest
[01:30] <KI4RO> devnull_, Yep, haven't had the nerve to try that yet LOL
[01:30] <devnull_> as long as you don't mind sitting through a windows install
[01:31] <devnull_> demonio, what version of ubuntu ?
[01:31] <KI4RO> devnull_, A windows install?
[01:31] <demonio> 12.10
[01:32] <devnull_> KI4RO, yes .. VM means virtual machine .. you will need to install windows inside of it ... it is not an emulator
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> KI4RO: if you go for virtualbox, you'll need the one from the virtualbox site (or PPA)
[01:32] <devnull_> you will literaly be booting windows inside of a virtual machine
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> KI4RO: the one in the ubuntu repos does not have raw usb access
[01:32] <devnull_> ActionParsnip, does that come with a kernel module ?
[01:32] <KI4RO> devnull_, Oh goodie!!  Don't have a Windows disk here
[01:32] <devnull_> lol   even better
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> devnull_: no idea, i'd imagine so but i only know the difference in that sense. easier to not buy apple rubbish :)
[01:33] <devnull_> ActionParsnip, yea im with ya on that .. i don't like proprietary things
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> devnull_: i don't mind proprietary, i just like things to work
[01:34] <devnull_> but then again i don't "sync" things either ... usb mass storage is my friend
[01:34] <KI4RO> devnull_, Wife bought it for me....I'm just trying to make it work
[01:34] <devnull_> KI4RO, no prob i understand ... ipods do their job well as a player ... your just screwed if you don't have itunes
[01:35] <devnull_> demonio, do a search on google ... you will find out how to do it
[01:35] <KI4RO> devnull_, Well I've been able to make it work with Rhythmbox, it plays and all, just trying to get this last feature to work
[01:35] <kaushal> Hi
[01:36] <devnull_> KI4RO, it would be cool to get that to work ... i would imagine someone is working on it
[01:36] <kaushal> Any recommended add-on plugins for dictionary in Firefox Browser?
[01:36] <KI4RO> devnull_, Hoping gtkpod folks are trying
[01:36] <kaushal> 17.0.1+build1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:36] <devnull_> KI4RO, for all i know they might have a development version with more features .. just becareful
[01:37] <devnull_> kaushal, what do you mean ... like for spellchecker ?
[01:37] <ania> hi i have tough question about hardware can any 1 help please//////??
[01:37] <KI4RO> devnull_, Hmmmm...interesting thought...where would I find it?
[01:37] <devnull_> ania, don't know until you ask your question
[01:37] <kaushal> devnull_: meaning of any word on the webpage
[01:37] <devnull_> kaushal, well if there was a plugin it is not ubuntu related ... check firefox extensions directory
[01:38] <kaushal> devnull_: any url?
[01:38] <devnull_> kaushal, GOOGLE IT
[01:38] <Slaptman> does anyone know how to restore ipod on ubuntu 12.04?
[01:38] <devnull_> the internet is your resource ... use it
[01:39] <ania> motherboard micro atx with intel atom......can it be powered by netbook psu? where to read about it .....please?
[01:39] <ElectricPrism> Q: anyone here running 13.04 daily? If I run it for say 6months will It automatically become 13.10 daily with updates?
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: got a dictionary?
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> ElectricPrism: ask in #ubuntu+1 for pre-release
[01:39] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: ?
[01:39] <devnull_> ania ... not a ubuntu question
[01:39] <ElectricPrism> ActionParsnip: thx
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> ElectricPrism: Raring will upgrade to raring stable after release day, you will need to take extra steps to upgrade it to 13.10
[01:40] <Slaptman> gtkpod dont seem to work
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: I thought you were having issues with words on a web page
[01:40] <devnull_> Slaptman, that is your best bet .. otherwise you will need to use  a VM with windows and itunes
[01:40] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: yes
[01:41] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: i saw a bunch of plugins but not sure which one to use
[01:41] <devnull_> ActionParsnip, kaushal wants to be able to somehow click on a word and have the dictionary definition i think
[01:41] <xenome> Hi, I have a preinstalled image that jumps to a login prompt while running the setup, does that mean something is failing?
[01:42] <xenome> i don't know what the logins are so I can't find a log to see what might have happened
[01:42] <devsfan1830> installing ubuntu server on a machine with an intel 6300 wifi module (wired connection not feasible at this time, this is just a test run for a minecraft server anyways). seems to want me to load firmwares labeled iwlwifi-6000-6.ucode and iwlwifi-6000-5.ucode. I cant seem to find any info on google and intels linux driver site is dead. any ideas?
[01:42] <dcplaya> My computer says 100% of disk space is full but i know its not. Doing "df -h" will show 100% used sometimes while other times its back to normal. Anyone know why?
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> kaushal: they have that as addons and extensions for web browsers
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> !find iwlwifi-6000-6.ucode
[01:43] <devnull_> devsfan1830, lspci ... find your card in the list .. take that unique number and do a google search
[01:43] <devnull_> dcplaya, maybe temp files ?
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> devsfan1830: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[01:44] <dcplaya> devnull_: nope, I have searched my entire system for large files, they dont exist. I have rebooted multiple times as well
[01:44] <devnull_> xenome, preinstalled image ?
[01:44] <devsfan1830> im in the install GUI, not sure how to get what you ask for
[01:44] <devnull_> dcplaya, tell me you don't have 1 partition ?
[01:44] <norm_> join #Pipes
[01:45] <dcplaya> devnull_: yea (for ubuntu at least, I have other drives for other files)  Is that bad?
[01:45] <devnull_> devsfan1830 get to a terminal and type that command
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> devnull_: ctrl+alt+f3   run it there
[01:45] <devnull_> devsfan1830, ^^^^^^^^^^
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> !info firmware-iwlwifi
[01:46] <devnull_> dcplaya, i guess it is just preference ... but i don't like the single partition installs ... because things like this can happen ... you can to easily fill your partition up if something in var gets to big or what not
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> devsfan1830: are you installing debian?
[01:46] <devsfan1830> Ubuntu Server 12.10
[01:47] <dcplaya> devnull_:  the weird thing is that this happened about 2 months ago and then it just randomly "fixed" itself
[01:47] <devnull_> what version of ubuntu
[01:47] <dcplaya> devnull_:  and its a 1TB drive and I only am using 20% of that in reality
[01:47] <HonestAbe> i know this is ubuntu, but does anyone know the command to switch to a specific workspace in xfce? those channels are frightfully silent
[01:48] <thalib> hi evveryone i am having a problem
[01:48] <thalib> trying to install ubuntu
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> devsfan1830: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=689416
[01:48] <thalib> i installed it and at the end an error comes
[01:48] <devnull_> HonestAbe, maybe alt+ctrl plus left or right to go back and forth .. or like alt+ctrl+1, 2, 3
[01:48] <thalib> after that when i try booting it it doesnt show up in the booting menue
[01:49] <dcplaya> devnull_: I am running 12.10
[01:49] <thalib> please help
[01:49] <devsfan1830> lsb_release -sc in terminal returns "not found"
[01:49] <HonestAbe> devnull_ well, here's the problem, i'm trying to bind the command to a keystroke, so i need the actual command, not the keystroke unfortunately.
[01:49] <devnull_> devsfan1830, are you still in the install ?
[01:49] <devnull_> HonestAbe, gotcha
[01:50] <devnull_> HonestAbe, xfce doesn't let you bind shortcuts for desktop switching ?
[01:50] <devsfan1830> im in the terminal, i can reboot to go back
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> thalib: what is the error?
[01:51] <devsfan1830> i tried going on despite the missing files, it couldnt resolve with the DHCP
[01:51] <devnull_> devsfan1830, can you not finish the install ?
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> thalib: simply saying 'an error' means nothing and doesn't tell us anyting to help you
[01:51] <devnull_> devsfan1830, tell it not to get updates while installing
[01:51] <thalib> the installer was not working or something but when i checked it had installed
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> devnull_: try:  cat /etc/issue
[01:51] <thalib> will check again
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> devsfan1830: ^
[01:51] <thalib> sorry
[01:53] <devnull_> devsfan1830, did you not have the lspci command in terminal ?
[01:53] <HonestAbe> devnull_ it does, I was looking in the wrong place. I needed to be in the window manager settings. I was looking at the keyboard shortcuts. Who'd have thought?
[01:53] <devnull_> hehe
[01:53] <devnull_> i hear ya
[01:53] <devsfan1830> i ran lspci, it just reported the name and model of the wifi card and its REV, id go directly to intel but the site they link to is down
[01:54] <devnull_> gotcha ... one more time .. what is the card .. ill check
[01:54] <devsfan1830> hang on
[01:54] <thalib> the error is c:\users\owner\appdata\local\temp\wubi-12.10-rev273.log
[01:55] <devnull_> oh wubi
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> thalib: so you are using wubi?
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> thalib: why did you not say you were using wubi?
[01:55] <thalib> thats what ubuntu gave to install through the usb stick
[01:56] <devsfan1830> Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300  (rev 35)
[01:56] <thalib> i thought everyone used that
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> thalib: yes, if you open the USB stick in windows it will offer you wubi
[01:56] <devnull_> i would say ... only use wubi if you have to ... not sure if you have to or not
[01:56] <thalib> i dont know anything about linux
[01:56] <devnull_> devsfan1830, thanks
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> thalib: oh hell no, wubi is nasty
[01:56] <thalib> how else can i install it
[01:56] <ActionParsnip> thalib: I recommend you run a chkdsk on your NTFS partition to ensure it is healthy
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> thalib: boot to the USB stick and you can install Ubuntu to its own partition
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> thalib: I recommend you use add/remove programs to pull wubi off
[01:57] <devnull_> yea ... linux in windows is a ungodly idea
[01:57] <ActionParsnip> thalib: You can single boot Ubuntu on its own, as the sole OS. There would be no Windows OS to run the installer from, would there?
[01:57] <TomyLobo> what do kde and gnome generally do when they run programs without a console?
[01:58] <TomyLobo> just nohup or something else?
[01:58] <thalib> ok will try that now but how am i to unistall the things which have installed now
[01:58] <ActionParsnip> thalib: add/remove programs...like any other windows application
[01:59] <HonestAbe> oh man, I remember my first linux install, it was a migrated wubi install on a netbook, what a nightmare.
[01:59] <devnull_> devsfan1830,  iwwlagn
[01:59] <TomyLobo> why would you do that?
[01:59] <ActionParsnip> TomyLobo: massochistim?
[01:59] <HonestAbe> no cd drive and I didn't know any better
[01:59] <TomyLobo> linux reinstalls are so painless
[01:59] <TomyLobo> ah
[01:59] <xenome> devnull: yes, the preinstalled-desktop image, more specifically the omap4 image
[01:59] <HonestAbe> later, i learned about the wonders of netbooting
[01:59] <devnull_> install linux from floppies then we will talk :)
[02:00] <thalib> how do i do a chkdsk
[02:00] <ItsTheSource> ntfs? boot into safe mode...
[02:00] <devnull_> but then again back then kernels fit on a diskette
[02:01] <devnull_> how i do not miss slackware
[02:01] <thalib> yup running chekdsk now
[02:02] <devnull_> devsfan1830, thats the driver you need ... it might require some extra parameters though
[02:03] <thalib> hello actionparsnip
[02:03] <devsfan1830> ok cool, but now how do i get it if intellinuxwireless.org is dead
[02:03] <devnull_> devsfan1830, you don't ... you don't get anything from them
[02:03] <thalib> what do i do now how do i put ubuntu into the usb and boot it from there
[02:04] <devnull_> as far as i can tell it should be available to you
[02:05] <grats> Hey I am having a problem with ubuntu that only the desktop/mouse shows? I have tried some of the guides online no luck. Anyone know a fix?
[02:05] <ItsTheSource> ok i'm confused. volume slider has no effect on the volume for my headphones even though in alsamixer its changing the master volume. weird...
[02:05] <devnull_> ItsTheSource, how about the headphone volume slider ?
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> thalib: you know, check your drive is healthy.... its a standard windows thing
[02:05] <thalib> yeah
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> thalib: right click C drive -> properties -> tools......
[02:05] <thalib> its healthy no bad sectors or anything
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> thalib: when did you last test it?
[02:06] <ItsTheSource> yea adjusting headphone volume in alsamixer works fine. Any way to lock master and headphone volumes?
[02:06] <thalib> dont know
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> thalib: then you have no way at all of substantiating your 'no bad sectors' claim at all if you have never tested the drive
[02:07] <dcplaya> ha!  Buena suerta con sus problemas.
[02:08] <devnull_> ItsTheSource, why do you want to lock them ?
[02:08] <DaemonicApathy> *suerte? I forget.
[02:08] <thalib> i dont understand u asked me to do a chkdsk
[02:08] <thalib> i did
[02:08] <thalib> it said no bad sectors
[02:08] <thalib> now what do i have to do
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> thalib: use the GUI and select to fix sectors and such, you will be asked to reboot
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> thalib: did you uninstall wubi?
[02:09] <thalib> yes
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> thalib: ok, boot to the usb stick you made, resize your NTFS and install to the freed space
[02:09] <ItsTheSource> ...that way the volume slider actually works for my headphone jack. If I can tie them together so they raise and lower together problem solved...
[02:09] <thalib> how do i do that
[02:10] <devnull_> ItsTheSource, you don't really want that i don't think
[02:10] <thalib> how do i for starters boot to the usb stick
[02:10] <thalib> and also i just want to tell the ubuntu that was downloaded has wubi on the usb stick
[02:10] <thalib> should i delete that
[02:10] <thalib> too
[02:10] <devnull_> thalib, yea they all do
[02:11] <ItsTheSource> Can you propose an alternate solution? I can launch alsamixer and modify the level for the headphones but that's a pain...
[02:11] <HonestAbe> devnull_ funny enough, he may not actually want it, but I sure as hell do
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> thalib: have the USB you made with the ISO in the port, select it as the boot device and you will get a live USB OS
[02:11] <HonestAbe> my headphone jack is closer to my speakers than my speaker jack
[02:11] <devnull_> let me think about it
[02:11] <HonestAbe> and i have been just manually adjusting it with the dial, but now that it's been brought up....
[02:12] <devnull_> so you want the master to go up when the headphone slider goes up ?
[02:12] <HonestAbe> other way around
[02:12] <ItsTheSource> actually the other way around. The volume slider affects the master.
[02:13] <devnull_> how about you just keep headphones at MAX level and then you can just adjust the master through gnome or your software ?
[02:13] <thalib> thats the problem i dont know how to do it
[02:13] <ItsTheSource> master has no effect on headphone volume
[02:13] <mad-lulz-yo> devnull_, no one who has any decent pair of cans would do that
[02:13] <thalib> how do i select it to become the boot device
[02:13] <ItsTheSource> there's mut or max
[02:13] <ItsTheSource> *mute
[02:14] <dfcnvt> I just plugged in my speaker to my computer... it doesn't make a sound. How do I restart my audio interface?
[02:14] <devnull_> ug
[02:14] <HonestAbe> uh oh, now the demon of audio problems has reared its hideous head
[02:15] <devnull_> its coming in waves today .... multiple ipod questions now multiple sound questions .. :)
[02:15] <ItsTheSource> lol
[02:15] <devnull_> lol
[02:15] <devnull_> and i just spent 2 days messing with alsa,pulse and hda-analyzer
[02:15] <alephant> Hi all
[02:15] <alephant> How do I tell whether package foo has been compiled with support for bar?
[02:15] <alephant> (e.g. whether "pppd" has PAM support)
[02:16] <ItsTheSource> If you compiled it there might be a configure.log
[02:16] <thalib> hello
[02:16] <devnull_> does debs contain that meta information?
[02:17] <devnull_> do
[02:17] <devnull_> ItsTheSource, so you are saying you would like ... when headphones are plugged in the volume control adjusted the headphones not the master ?
[02:18] <devnull_> instead of adjusting pcm or master ... you want the headphone level adjusted
[02:18] <ItsTheSource> Since master doesn't affect my headphone volume then that would work.
[02:18] <ItsTheSource> Yes.
[02:19] <thalib> how do i make my usb stick the booting device
[02:19] <devnull_> thalib, idk .. go into your bios and find how to change the boot order .. or press F9 or F10 for a boot menu
[02:19] <DaemonicApathy> Either adjust the primary boot device in your BIOS, or select it manually when turning on the computer.
[02:20] <devnull_> we don't know what bios you have
[02:20] <thalib> how do i go into the bios
[02:20] <ItsTheSource> F2, F12, DEL...press all of them at once
[02:21] <devnull_> escape even
[02:21] <Zarcowi> lol
[02:21] <thalib> thats when the computer starts right
[02:22] <devnull_> ItsTheSource, i wonder if there is a pulse config for it ... because that is detectable i believe wether headphones are plugged in
[02:22] <ItsTheSource> Well I have Headphones in my audio output devices. If I select it and adjust the volume...nada...
[02:23] <devnull_> dfcnvt, pulseaudio -k
[02:23] <devnull_> you can try pulseaudio volume control
[02:24] <devnull_> pavucontrol
[02:24] <dfcnvt> nothing worked
[02:24] <dfcnvt> Let me do the power cycle on my computer.
[02:24] <devnull_> dfcnvt, i wouldn't
[02:24] <dfcnvt> ..
[02:24] <devnull_> there are numerous reasons for audio not working
[02:25] <machicola> what are some tasks people do with startup scripts? or shell scripts
[02:25] <kaushal> Hi
[02:25] <devnull_> drivers ... mixer levels ... etc
[02:25] <ItsTheSource> ...incorrect device selected...
[02:25] <dfcnvt> I've used up on smplayer often but I don't remember messing around with speaker's interface.
[02:25] <manju> man
[02:25] <devnull_> is it a desktop ?
[02:25] <dfcnvt> let me double check to see if it's selected a correct device
[02:25] <dfcnvt> yes
[02:25] <mad-lulz-yo> machicola, things youd like to setup and run...
[02:26] <dcplaya> Can someone recommend a good VNC server for 12.10 that will start on boot?
[02:26] <devnull_> dcplaya, vino-server comes with unity i believe
[02:26] <mad-lulz-yo> machicola, servers, make wifi connections
[02:26] <devnull_> but i don't think it starts till you have logged in ?
[02:26] <HonestAbe> whew, solved my audio prob, it was xfce related (of course). It was using hdmi as my default audio
[02:27] <devnull_> that will happen
[02:27] <dcplaya> Im running a headless. I usually login via SSH but sometimes I need a GUI
[02:27] <ItsTheSource> no you don't :D
[02:27] <HonestAbe> ^
[02:27] <devnull_> im not sure but vino-server may be user specific ?
[02:27] <dr_willis> dcplaya:  you can just ssh in and start vncserver by hand. works well for me
[02:27] <ztgu> Hi, I am having problems with ctrl + alt + f7 from console mode. I get a black screen and can't do anything
[02:27] <ztgu> Can anyone help?
[02:27] <dr_willis> you dont want to use vino on a headless server
[02:27] <devnull_> ztgu  fresh install ?
[02:28] <ztgu> What is happening in this process?
[02:28] <devnull_> dr_willis, good point
[02:28] <dfcnvt> ztgu: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[02:28] <dfcnvt> but unsure if there is gdm in it
[02:28] <machicola> ahh, wifi, definitely... thanks mad-lulz-yo
[02:28] <dcplaya> dr_willis: I used to do that but I just found a 700GB VNCserver log file so I am apprently doing it incorrectly
[02:28] <devnull_> 12.10 would be lightdm
[02:28] <mad-lulz-yo> stgu, #killall Xorg
[02:28] <mad-lulz-yo> stgu, #startx
[02:28] <jschall> why do the nvidia drivers make the splash screen go completely fugly?
[02:28] <ztgu> devnull_: fresh install won't work
[02:28] <devnull_> dcplaya, can you kill logging ?
[02:28] <ActionParsnip> ztgu: killall -u $USER     will do it
[02:28] <devnull_> ztgu .... what did it just stop working .. did you just install ??
[02:29] <dr_willis> dcplaya:  edit the vncserver script to remove logs. or set a no logging option perhaps
[02:29] <devnull_> jschall, what splash screen ?
[02:29] <HonestAbe> dcplaya sorry to be an idiot, but have you tried trimming down logs?
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> ztgu: what video chip do you use?
[02:29] <jschall> devnull_: the ubuntu splash screen
[02:29] <HonestAbe> erp, dr_willis is vastly quicker
[02:29] <devnull_> jschall, you talking about the screen while it is booting ?
[02:29] <jschall> devnull_: yes
[02:30] <devnull_> jschall, probably a framebuffer problem ... might need to add an option to your kernel boot .. might not be finding the video mode correctly
[02:30] <devnull_> my guess
[02:30] <jschall> devnull_: it switched to a text-based splash and a bunch of crap gets printed over the top of it in a very broken manner
[02:30] <ztgu> dfcnvt:  etc/init.d/gdm restart, what does it do?
[02:30] <dr_willis> nvidia and flgrx drivers have issues with plymouth ;)
[02:30] <ztgu> ActionParsnip: I have amd, what does killall -u $USER do?
[02:30] <haylo> is some version of live build being maintained for ubuntu ?
[02:30] <dr_willis> i tend to just disable plymouth
[02:30] <devnull_> yea i used to have similar issue with fglrx drivers ... but seems to be fixed these days for me
[02:31] <dfcnvt> ztgu: It will restart the x server. (Where you tried to get in CTRL+F7)
[02:31] <ActionParsnip> ztgu: kills all the processes belonging to your user
[02:32] <aartist> Hi, What is the one thing, that I can do, if my mouse is stuck?
[02:32] <devnull_> jschall, luckily you don't really have to worry about it .. it just wont look pretty
[02:32] <ztgu> ActionParsnip: yeah, I know, but why?
[02:32] <jschall> why can't ubuntu get a damn splash screen right after 10 years?
[02:32] <devnull_> jschall, they do have it right
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> ztgu: then why ask what it does, when you know?
[02:32] <devnull_> does the LiveCD / USB boot correctly with the splash ?
[02:32] <ItsTheSource> OH what a tease...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=900305
[02:32] <jschall> clearly not.
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> ztgu: it will allow you to log in and hopefully give a GUI.
[02:33] <devnull_> jschall, are you new to this ?
[02:33] <dr_willis> i belive the nvidia/fglr x stuff with plymouth has  laege  threads on the forums
[02:33] <jschall> not remotely
[02:33] <Preflex> Hi, I'm trying to convert a series of .png files to video.   Any suggestions on a good way to do this?
[02:33] <devnull_> then you should know better
[02:33] <dr_willis> Preflex:  ffmpeg/mencoder
[02:33] <jschall> anyway, yes, nvidia's problem, but yes, ubuntu's problem too.
[02:33] <devnull_> jschall, does the install boot correctly with the splash ??
[02:34] <jschall> you mean the livecd?
[02:34] <devnull_> i guess if you have an older version of ubuntu
[02:34]  * dr_willis dosent worry about a 10 sec boot animation when he had 10+days of uptime
[02:34] <devnull_> but yes
[02:34] <jschall> yes, it works with nouveau or nv or whatever
[02:34] <ztgu> ActionParsnip:  The thing is that I can get a GUI working with startx, ( i am using KDE) But the ctrl + alt + del process freezes my system.
[02:34] <devnull_> jschall, then it is your problem not ubuntus problem
[02:34] <devnull_> ztgu, don't do that
[02:35] <devnull_> jschall, but to fix it .. lets move forward
[02:35] <ztgu> devnull_: do what? startx or ctrl - alt + f7 ??
[02:35] <devnull_> find out what drivers and settings the LiveCD is using for video and try to mimick that setup
[02:35] <devnull_> ztgu ... do not ctrl+alt+delete
[02:36] <Preflex> I've tried mencoder, but it doesn't seem to be working right.  I only get two or three frames and then it goes nuts.   http://pastebin.com/aW715Yjh
[02:36] <jschall> anyway, i'd like it fixed for everyone. i'd like to understand how to work around nvidia's crap and implement it.
[02:36] <devnull_> jschall, i have had issues in the past where the video is flawless from the livecd but after install i had to fix it
[02:36] <devnull_> jschall, nvidia's crap is better than ATI's crap
[02:36] <devnull_> it is probably a setting of yours
[02:36] <Preflex> #ffmpeg wouldn't help me, because ubuntu's version of ffmpeg is a "fake fork"
[02:36] <dr_willis> its not going to be a trivial fix with nvidia/plymouth.
[02:36] <devnull_> check to see what mode is set in the kernel boot
[02:36] <WXZ> xrandr prints out a list of your root windows, right?
[02:37] <ztgu> devnull_: why?
[02:37] <dr_willis> fake fork = spork
[02:38] <ztgu> ActionParsnip: Do you know of an alternative to suspend or if I can make my suspend resume with startx command instead ?
[02:38] <dr_willis> ffmpeg in ubuntu is the ffmpeg fork known as avconv i think. check ffmpeg --help
[02:38] <smog> fork shaped like a spoon, with the teeth closer together = spork
[02:39] <aartist> Hi, I need urgent help. On ubuntu my cursor doesn't move.  Does your cursor moves?
[02:39] <jschall> devnull_: a setting of "mine" implies i changed a setting. it may indeed be a setting on my computer.  i have googled about it, it says to run hwinfo --framebuffer and pick a resolution, but none of the resolutions are the native resolution of my (system76) laptop, which seems pretty dumb.
[02:39] <dr_willis> aartist:  yes. moves fine here
[02:39] <bsmith093> you know how some really advanced bulk renamers can add the parent folder(s) to the name of a file? well i need to remove that part organized like this stuff/blah/status/blah - authorname - filename.txt the only matching parts will be the "blah", and it is garanteed to be a part of the filename
[02:39] <devnull_> jschall, it might be a different setting
[02:40] <jschall> devnull_: and the nouveau drivers clearly display the splash at native resolution
[02:40] <devnull_> gotcha
[02:40] <devnull_> and your using nouveau drivers ?
[02:40] <jschall> devnull_: no, i'm using the native drivers
[02:40] <aartist> dr_willis: ok.. so it's not internet problem. what I can do to solve it?
[02:40] <devnull_> oh
[02:41] <jschall> devnull_: nouveau is what's used on the livecd, right?
[02:41] <dr_willis> aartist:  no idea. you havent given us any details. unplug/replug the mouse and se if it works
[02:41] <devnull_> not sure ... that is the open source drivers ... so i don't know what you mean by native
[02:41] <jschall> devnull_: oh, i don't mean native, i mean proprietary
[02:41] <devnull_> gotcha
[02:42] <devnull_> not sure about the nvidia drivers ... do you feel like you have to have the proprietary drivers ?
[02:42] <ItsTheSource> bsmith093, you could probably use rename and pwd to rename your files
[02:42] <aartist> dr_willis: I am on laptop... with intel machine and installed ubuntu via wubi. and works good everyday. I can reboot and it may work fine.. but I like to make it working without rebooting.
[02:42] <devnull_> ItsTheSource, my search is running a little dry for your headphone issue .. maybe jack is needed
[02:42] <bsmith093> ItsTheSource: its not the pwd but 2 levels up from there
[02:42] <jschall> devnull_: yes, i do things that require the proprietary drivers.
[02:42] <HonestAbe> aartist: from personal experience, can i reccomend that you reinstall?
[02:42] <devnull_> jschall, 12.10 right ?
[02:43] <aartist> dr_willis: I can click the way it is.  But  the cursor doesn't move with mousepad.
[02:43] <xenome> is there an easy one liner to completely remove ubuntu-desktop?
[02:43] <HonestAbe> not necessarily to fix whatever problem, but wubi installs are problematic to say the least
[02:43] <devnull_> jschall, btw does the splash screen load up correctly at all .. even for a second ?
[02:43] <jschall> no
[02:43] <devnull_> xenome yes
[02:43] <dr_willis> aartist:   see if it works ffom s live cd as a test
[02:43] <jschall> devnull_: it does not
[02:43] <devnull_> okay
[02:43] <xenome> devnull: how would you do it?
[02:43] <aartist> dr_willis: thanks.., I don't have LiveCD.
[02:44] <devnull_> xenome did you do a google search yet ?
[02:44] <dr_willis> aartist:  time to get one. they are handy.
[02:44] <devnull_> jschall, let me check on that
[02:44] <HonestAbe> aartist, have you got a thumb drive?
[02:44] <dr_willis> aartist:  or make a live usb
[02:44] <xenome> yes, but it seems like an apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop just removes the meta package, not really any other packages
[02:44] <xenome> i could remove gnome-*
[02:44] <ItsTheSource> I think bash will allow you to match the longest string from the beginning to the last match of a character. I'm trying to remember the syntax...maybe PWD=$(pwd) ${PWD##/}...bah i know that's wrong..
[02:44] <xenome> but it seems like there is a cleaner method
[02:44] <dr_willis> xenome:  thats how meta packages work. yes
[02:44] <aartist> dr_willis: no.
[02:44] <devnull_> xenome why are you doing this in the first place ???
[02:45] <aartist> dr_willis: I was looking for some keyboard command tweaks.. that will get this going.
[02:45] <xenome> can I not just look at what the metapacke installs, and reverse that?
[02:45] <ItsTheSource> devnull_, thanks for looking. I'm not coming up with much either...
[02:45] <devnull_> jschall, they just made some adjustments to the nvidia-graphics-drivers package that might be a known issue
[02:45] <xenome> devnull, because I want to get to a stripped down X running only openbox from init script
[02:45] <xenome> trying to do it as clean as possible
[02:45] <devnull_> xenome ... so install openbox
[02:45] <dr_willis> xenome:  not really its a failing of how metapackages work. they just dpend on other things
[02:46] <jschall> devnull_: nvidia did or canonical did or what?
[02:46] <dr_willis> makes  ti easy to install stuff.. but not easier to remove
[02:46] <devnull_> jschall, checking ... it is because it thinks there is no framebuffer to use
[02:46] <devnull_> jschall, ill see if i can find an update or fix
[02:46] <ItsTheSource> bsmith093, ${string%substring}: deletes shortest match of substring from back of string...
[02:46] <devnull_> xenome you can have multiple window managers ... you can pick what you want to get into on login
[02:47] <somsip> xenome: I tried that once. I ended up reinstalling from the minimal image to get a clean setup
[02:47] <devnull_> jschall, on shutdown do you see the splashscreen ?
[02:48] <jschall> devnull_: not sure yet. i doubt it. i can find out now?
[02:48] <jschall> devnull_: i'll just do that.
[02:48] <devnull_> i dont want to make you reboot
[02:48] <Solace_> could anyone tell me why I can't execute eclipse?:( private message for details
[02:48] <xenome> somsip: that's probably a good idea
[02:49] <devnull_> Solace_, just ask your question in here with some a lil detail
[02:49] <somsip> xenome: I found I couldn't get things as clean as I wanted without trawling for dead config files. Easier to min install and 'apt-get install {WM of choice}'
[02:49] <devnull_> xenome don't remove any other packages .. just install openbox ... logout .. you should be able to pick your session at the login screen
[02:50] <devnull_> jschall, that was dang fast
[02:50] <tocohead> question, want to install ubuntu 12.04 and have a 64 bit but it recomends 32bit, why and which is best?
[02:50] <xenome> devnull: I'm looking for no window manager, I don't want a prompt, I'm setting up a pretty simple device
[02:50] <Solace_> downloaded eclipse Juno with wget http://www.ocdsoft.com/files/debian/eclipse-cpp.tar.gz && tar -xvf eclipse-cpp.tar.gz && mv eclipse-cpp /usr/local/eclipse-cpp && ln -s /usr/local/eclipse-cpp/eclipse eclipse && rm eclipse-cpp.tar.gz
[02:50] <somsip> tocohead: almost certainly 64 bit
[02:50] <jschall> devnull_: it does not work on shutdown
[02:50] <devnull_> xenome, openbox is a window manager
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> tocohead: depends on the cpu you are installing on, how much ram you have and the use of the OS
[02:50] <xenome> i'm sure, gdm
[02:50] <Solace_> but when I use the command eclipse or cd the directory and ./eclipse, cannot execute binary
[02:50] <devnull_> jschall, thank you for the information ... fast reboot btw
[02:50] <xenome> err i'm sorry, gdm
[02:50] <xenome> display manger
[02:51] <HonestAbe> ActionParsnip, I love your name
[02:51] <dr_willis> gdm can autologin
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> HonestAbe: its an old harry hill joke
[02:51] <ItsTheSource> Solace_, you may need to run that with xvpf for your tar arguments
[02:51] <jschall> devnull_: yep, it's a fresh install on a system76 gazelle professional - no ssd though, could be faster :)
[02:51] <xenome> yeah but I don't need all that stuff running, I've got a limited embedded device
[02:51] <devnull_> gazelle ... nice
[02:51] <somsip> xenome: you want simple - slim may be worth considering as login manager
[02:51] <dr_willis> start x from rc.local then
[02:51] <devnull_> xenome ... what stuff ??????
[02:52] <ActionParsnip> tocohead: there is no single best, if there was then they would kick out only one ISO...wouldn't they
[02:52] <Solace_> @ItsTheSource ./eclipse -xvf?
[02:53] <devnull_> jschall, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/1063969            looks promising
[02:54] <devnull_> but you can enable it in a config file and 2 commands ... but your kernel will throw warnings at you
[02:54] <jschall> devnull_: right, so it is entirely nvidia's fault
[02:55] <devnull_> jschall, looks that way ... but if you want the framebuffer support you can have it ... but it will throw a warning in the log
[02:55] <ItsTheSource> ah...no, wget http://www.ocdsoft.com/files/debian/eclipse-cpp.tar.gz && tar -xvpf eclipse-cpp.tar.gz && mv eclipse-cpp /usr/local/eclipse-cpp && ln -s /usr/local/eclipse-cpp/eclipse eclipse && rm eclipse-cpp.tar.gz
[02:55] <jschall> devnull_: i wonder why.
[02:56] <devnull_> something like the nvidia drivers dont support framebuffer so if you enable it is a unsupported feature ?
[02:56] <jschall> devnull_: also, for some reason hwinfo --framebuffer reports that i don't have any framebuffers at my native resolution
[02:56] <devnull_> correct
[02:56] <devnull_> you have none at the moment because they are disabled
[02:56] <tocohead> 4xAND 9650, memory 7913 MB, ATI Radeon HD 3200. general use
[02:56] <jschall> devnull_: god i hate nvidia so much.
[02:57] <devnull_> still better than ATI ... a boot screen is a minor issue ... Nvidia just increased their graphics peformance on linux by 40% i wouldn't complain to to much :)
[02:57] <jschall> devnull_: how much worse is ATI?
[02:57] <spyzer> hey everyone, does the open source radeon driver supports open gl ES acceleration?
[02:57] <tocohead> was confused as they have 32bit (recomended) next to the download
[02:57] <devnull_> getting better ... but bad driver support
[02:58] <jschall> devnull_: i guess with valve pressuring them they might work a bit harder on the linux drivers.
[02:58] <devnull_> tocohead, because 32 bit will run on all 32b and 64b processors ... but 64bit will only work on ... 64bit
[02:58] <Solace_> ahhh, so just change -xvf to -xpvf :) thank you very much
[02:58] <devnull_> jschall, they did .. they just increased performance .. like just recently ..i thin it is on valve for linux's site
[02:58] <tocohead> ok thank 64bit it will be
[02:59] <devnull_> framebuffer is a minor issue compared to 3d rendering
[02:59] <dr_willis> tocohead:  idiot proofing for people that have no clue what 32/64bit mean
[02:59] <ItsTheSource> ...maintains permissions. If that doesn't work then just run # chmod +x /usr/local/eclipse-cpp/eclipse
[02:59] <devnull_> dr_willis, i was going to say the same thing ... in a slightly different way ;)
[03:00] <ItsTheSource> idiot proofing?!? impossible!
[03:00] <devnull_> jschall, but you can enable it if you want ... people are saying they aren't running into stability issues by having it enabled
[03:00] <tocohead> thanks for all your help, using Linix Mint and thinking Ubuntu will be better
[03:00] <dr_willis> devnull_:  im sick of  bending over backwards to idipt proof stuff. then getting  asked to do backflips also.  ;)
[03:00] <jschall> devnull_: anyway, it just bugs me because its embarrassing for ubuntu, embarrassing for nvidia (but less so), and embarrassing for me when my $1400 computer looks "broken" with the OS it was purportedly designed for.
[03:00] <devnull_> haha
[03:00] <spyzer> anybody please
[03:01] <devnull_> i hear ya ... i am a programmer and web developer ... goes with the job
[03:01] <dr_willis> tocohead:  i dont see much point in using mint really.
[03:01] <HonestAbe> jschall what kind of computer?
[03:01] <jschall> devnull_: anyway, i'm trying ubuntu again after switching to kde for a very long time. my next issue is why can't i drag windows smoothly?
[03:01] <jschall> HonestAbe: system76
[03:01] <devnull_> jschall, comment #7 in the link will fix it .... you should be fine ... nvidia probably changed something in how their software works and they probably don't need it for other os drivers
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> tocohead: 64bit is my recommendation
[03:02] <HonestAbe> jschall nifty!
[03:02] <dr_willis> spyzer:  state the issue to che chennel
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> tocohead: remember the target audience of ubuntu. If you have a 64bit OS you can run both 32bit and 32bit
[03:02] <tocohead> I liked the look and windows design. but having problems with it
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> tocohead: so it covers the users who are unsure of their CPU, or computers in general
[03:02] <devnull_> jschall,   that is another issue
[03:03] <jschall> devnull_: known?
[03:03] <devnull_> jschall, and btw .. if i didn't have to i wouldn't buy an ATI card .. but my laptop is an APU
[03:03] <tocohead> makes since ActionParsnip
[03:03] <devnull_> jschall, like ... a setting somewhere ... might be a composite issue
[03:03] <devnull_> kde on 12.10 ?
[03:03] <jschall> devnull_: kde on 12.04. i just got around to grabbing 12.10
[03:03] <devnull_> maybe you need sync to vblank on
[03:04] <spyzer> dr_willis: i am trying to look for tizen sdk development. The emulator needs open gl ES accelration. My laptop has ati radeon hd 4500 . So I wished to know whether the radeon driver supports that?
[03:04] <devnull_> not sure .... i haven't had that issue in like 2-3 years since the drivers got better for ATI
[03:04] <jschall> devnull_: they aren't tearing, they're just jerky
[03:04] <devnull_> okay
[03:04] <dr_willis> spyzer:   no idea.. thats why i said ask the channel. not me. ;)
[03:04] <devnull_> do you have a CPU monitor ?
[03:04] <spyzer> anybody :)
[03:05] <Muphrid> hai
[03:05] <devnull_> spyzer, something that opengl3 offers ?
[03:05] <devnull_> jschall, i was going to say drag a window around and see how high your cpu spikes
[03:05] <jschall> devnull_: no spikes.
[03:05] <devnull_> okay
[03:06] <jschall> devnull_: all 8 lines stay below 50% :)
[03:06] <devnull_> hehe ... dang you
[03:06] <jschall> devnull_: just grabbed compizconfig
[03:06] <devnull_> yea .. check in the compiz settings manager
[03:07] <jschall> devnull_: i really wish ubuntu had built on/polished kde instead of gnome
[03:07] <devnull_> i guess you could grab kubuntu ?
[03:07] <jschall> devnull_: because this is a serious pain compared to how well kde works, but kde also has rough edges (search, for example)
[03:07] <rushboy> hello can anyone please tell me where can i see the git folder ?
[03:08] <rushboy> ubuntu 11.10
[03:08] <devnull_> maybe kde has its own composite engine ?
[03:08] <devnull_> i really haven't touched KDE in like 10 years
[03:08] <ultraparadigm> !Help!  ?Where did my Desktop Cube go?
[03:08] <jschall> devnull_: it does, kwin has its own compositing
[03:08] <devnull_> jschall, so maybe it is a compiz issue then
[03:09] <ultraparadigm> Did the version of Compiz in 12.10 get rid of the desktop cube?
[03:09] <devnull_> ultraparadigm, compiz plugins
[03:09] <mogaj> How do i get Twitter web app in ubuntu 12.10
[03:09] <devnull_> compiz-plugins-extra
[03:10] <spyzer> sometimes i keep on getting system problem detected with evolution-calender-factory, is that a known bug?
[03:10] <devnull_> how do you get the bot to describe a package?
[03:10] <spyzer> If yes, is there some short fix for that
[03:10] <ultraparadigm> Thanks!
[03:10] <devnull_> hmm ... let me check that package .. might not be the correct one
[03:10] <ultraparadigm> Devnull, that the second important thing I found missing in 12.10 that was in 12.04
[03:11] <spyzer> also when I try to generate the error report , in the apport-gtk it just shows me a loading icon when I click on details
[03:11] <somsip> devnull_: use !info {packagename}
[03:11] <spyzer> is there any way for me to get the details
[03:11] <devnull_> thanks
[03:11] <spyzer> so i can atleast do some hotfix if possible
[03:11] <ultraparadigm> The first most important thing was the linux-headers.  My video drivers FUBARed my PC upon compile untill i figured that out.
[03:11] <devnull_> !info compiz-plugins-extra
[03:11] <spyzer> anyone please
[03:12] <spyzer> Even my crash reporter dies
[03:12] <devnull_> ultraparadigm, yea i thought i was given a disabled compiz manager .. but you just need to install the extra plugins and it will be just like before
[03:13] <devnull_> ultraparadigm, yea .... just grab the headers always .. its always a safe bet
[03:13] <datruth> I'm using djbdns/tinydns and i'm having a hard time understanding how I am to do reverse dns for my /29 subnet could some help?
[03:13] <ultraparadigm> Thanks so much!
[03:13] <DaemonicApathy> Does anyone have a copy of the original 12.04 ISO that they would be willing to send me?
[03:14] <devnull_> you can download it
[03:14] <DaemonicApathy> I can download 12.04.1
[03:15] <bazhang> datruth, thats not an ubuntu issue; try ##networking or #freenode
[03:15] <DaemonicApathy> Never mind, found the old release. Thanks, devnull_.
[03:15] <HonestAbe> anyone have any suggestions for a snappy pdf reader?
[03:16] <bazhang> HonestAbe, the default one evince
[03:16] <devnull_> jschall, there is a bug with mouse/compiz .... is it like a delay .. or just laggy movement ?
[03:16] <HonestAbe> documentviewer leaves something to be desired
[03:16] <HonestAbe> thanks bazhang
[03:16] <jschall> devnull_: its strange, i logged out and back in and its gone
[03:16] <usermike> 129
[03:16] <bazhang> HonestAbe, apt-cache search term to find something you like
[03:16] <rushboy> I have git installed on ubuntu 11.10 but now i need to look into the git directory , how do i do it ? any suggestions ?
[03:17] <devnull_> jschall, the lagginess ?
[03:17] <jschall> devnull_: but it wasn't a delay, it was just laggy
[03:17] <devnull_> okay ... the recommendation when something like that happens is to try and restart unity
[03:17] <devnull_> unity --replace should do the trick
[03:18] <devnull_> rushboy, hmmm ... not sure where it puts git ... maybe in /var somewhere .. or /usr/lib/
[03:19] <iFlip> Has anyone messed around with RouterBoard and Debian distro?
[03:19] <somsip> rushboy: it's install in /usr/bin/git but I guess you mean the .git folder of the cloned repo?
[03:20] <devnull_> somsip, where does ubuntu put the git repo that is being served ... i think that is what he needs
[03:21] <somsip> devnull_: whereever it's checked out to. Am I missing something in the question?
[03:21] <devnull_> jschall, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/764330
[03:21] <HonestAbe> hmmm, I'm looking at my system monitor here, and in resources, my cpu is at 100%, but under processes nothing is taking up more than 16%, any tips on finding the culprit?
[03:21] <devnull_> somsip, he is hosting a repo
[03:21] <devnull_> HonestAbe, top ?
[03:22] <HonestAbe> Ahh, there we go, thanks
[03:22] <bazhang> iFlip, #raspberrypi you mean?
[03:22] <datruth> no djbdns ppl?
[03:22] <somsip> devnull_: ah. not sure then. It's been a while since I did that, and then I used gitolite or something
[03:22] <devnull_> i have a good question ... i have a trinity APU ... dual core with built in GPU ... my cpu monitor ... is that just the processor or also the GPU ?
[03:22] <bazhang> datruth, wrong place I told you
[03:22] <iFlip> bazhang no, its a RouterBoard 532A
[03:23] <bazhang> ##networking or #freenode datruth
[03:23] <rushboy> somsip: actually i want to upload a local folder onto github ? can u help me on this ? I want to add the folder to : https://github.com/rushboy52/core
[03:23] <bazhang> iFlip, debian only? or ubuntu as well
[03:23] <iFlip> bazhang I was in networking - there a bit fussy tonight. I figured maybe a Linux related distro someone might know
[03:23] <devnull_> jschall, logitech mouse ?
[03:23] <jschall> devnull_: razor
[03:24] <bazhang> iFlip, the ##networking was to datruth
[03:24] <rushboy> somsip: yes maybe i am looking for the .git folder of the cloned repo
[03:24] <somsip> rushboy: git clone {repo}; cd {repo}; mkdir newdir; git add newdir; git commit -m 'Message'; git push; But you should fnid a nice tutorial really
[03:24] <devnull_> jschall, check the x log and see if there are any errors for the mouse
[03:24] <iFlip> bazhang either one... I read people loading Debian, but if anyone had tried Ubuntu I would be open to success story
[03:25] <ultraparadigm> Yes, that worked like a charm
[03:25] <jschall> devnull_: i guarantee you the mouse is fine. fine in kde, fine while not moving windows, fine now that the window thing seems to have resolved itself.
[03:25] <jschall> devnull_: rebooting, i want to see what removing plymouth-theme-ubuntu-text does
[03:25] <gnuskool> ubuntu phone is the biznis
[03:26] <HonestAbe> have you tried it out?
[03:26] <ultraparadigm> I had to return my old ATI HD video card because it turns out it doesn't work in 12.10 and I tried it in 12.04 and it works but not the opengl.  :-(    It was already using legacy drivers when i bought it bran new.  So I got a NVidia GTX and I am happy now.
[03:26] <gnuskool> nah, just vids
[03:26] <bazhang> gnuskool, #ubuntu-phone
[03:26] <gnuskool> thx
[03:29] <devnull_> ultraparadigm, what card doesn't work in 12.10 ?
[03:29] <jschall> devnull_: well, i got it to just display all the text properly, and that is definitely preferable to the brokenness that was going on by default
[03:29] <devnull_> jschall, i bet
[03:30] <devnull_> as long as that issue with the windows is resolved atm you should be okay
[03:31] <devnull_> im still trying to tweak my system to play TF2 smoother
[03:34] <devnull_> 70% of the time ... it works all the time
[03:34] <Tigerx1078> hi
[03:36] <jschall> devnull_: this is with ati?
[03:36] <jschall> devnull_: oh damn, the laggy windows are back
[03:36] <devnull_> unity --replace
[03:36] <devnull_> yea
[03:37] <devnull_> well having composite on the desktop makes gaming a little harder ... i think i need to launch a second X server with no composite to get some more performance
[03:37] <devnull_> and i already enabled opengl3 by using the 3.7.1 kernel
[03:38] <devnull_> but i am not using the proprietary drivers
[03:43] <jschall> devnull_: well, i'm going to go try kde distros.
[03:43] <jschall> devnull_: i lasted almost three hours this time! a record.
[03:44] <devnull_> hehe ... it took me a lil to get used to unity and i have been using gnome for to many years
[03:44] <devnull_> you can install a kde desktop if you would like
[03:45] <jschall> devnull_: no, i'd prefer not having all of the out-of-place junk from the gnome installation
[03:49] <devnull_> jschall, ah ... you mean like primarily using qt software instead of the gtk software that ubuntu uses
[03:49] <jschall> devnull_: right. having both just gets you a huge number of redundant applications
[03:49] <HonestAbe> jschall try the xfce side of the force
[03:50] <devnull_> sure
[03:50] <devnull_> yea xfce is pretty nice .. i must say ... but it isn't kde in anyway
[03:50] <ActionParsnip> devnull_: completely different base :)
[03:50] <devnull_> yup
[03:51] <devnull_> im still not thrilled with these hover scroll bars in unity .. but im not gonna remove them
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> devnull_: its an option
[03:52] <devnull_> ah .. you don't have to remove the libs to change it anymore ?
[03:55] <jschall> devnull_: yeah they're really damn annoying.
[03:55] <jschall> devnull_: especially since half of the applications have them and half of them don't
[03:56] <devnull_> yea depends if they are gtk native or not
[03:56] <devnull_> saves a bit of space though i must say
[03:56] <jschall> devnull_: firefox isn't?
[03:57] <devnull_> brb
[04:02] <FISH_SOUP> hello, if i were to install virtualbox on a ubuntu server, how do i go about the installation if SSH access is only available?
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> FISH_SOUP: https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=6663
[04:05] <Paradise> ðóññêèå åñòü?
[04:07] <RussellAlan> Its not as easy to find entreprenuers on the web as it was back in the day.
[04:08] <feeshon> Pardon my newbness but I am looking to build a KVM machine on ubuntu 12.04LTS what should I use for a software RAID?
[04:10] <ActionParsnip> RussellAlan: facebook maybe
[04:10] <RussellAlan> ActionParsnip, like your thinking =D
[04:10] <beandog> feeshon: mdadm
[04:10] <RussellAlan> Android related business, maybe post an ad on a forum fb
[04:11] <FISH_SOUP> ActionParsnip, but still that doesn't allow any form of GUI
[04:11] <FISH_SOUP> how can i install windows via the headless of VB if i cant see anything visually
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> FISH_SOUP: let me see, ask in #vbox as well
[04:12] <devnull_> jschall, you good now ?
[04:12] <jschall> devnull_: not really :)
[04:13] <devnull_> lol ... im stepping a way for a bit ... good luck
[04:13] <jschall> devnull_: ubuntu doesn't want to let me go. startup disk creator still crashes (several releases after i had to start using unetbootin for the same reason)
[04:14] <devnull_> yikes
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> FISH_SOUP: http://www.howtoforge.com/managing-a-headless-virtualbox-installation-with-phpvirtualbox-ubuntu-12.04
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> FISH_SOUP: simple websearch, look what I found.... :)
[04:22] <pep0> Hi, night
[04:22] <pep0> somebody else can you help me to install adobe flash on ubuntu 12.10
[04:26] <SolarisB1y> does anyone know if the ubuntu precise netinstall allows one to create LVM/soft raid && home dir encryption during the boot process?
[04:30] <cjae> so now what with the chrome only adobe releases ... use chrome only?
[04:30] <pep0> now yes
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> pep0: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[04:31] <pep0> i have firefox but its slow
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> pep0: firefox is slow :D
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> pep0: use a pastebin to host the text please
[04:32] <pep0> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[04:32] <pep0> Description:	Ubuntu 12.10
[04:32] <pep0> Release:	12.10
[04:32] <pep0> Codename:	quantal
[04:32] <FloodBot1> pep0: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:32] <pep0> sorry
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> pep0: again, use a pastebin
[04:34] <pep0> ok
[04:34] <pep0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1511737/
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> pep0: thanks
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> pep0: and the output of: dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'      Thanks
[04:40] <percent20> Is there a place, on the web, I can view all of the packages included in ubuntu gnome 12.10 remix?
[04:40] <pep0> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1511742/
[04:40] <pep0> ActionParsnip,  can you check it, please?
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> pep0: let me see :)
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> pep0: and the output of:   uname -a    (no need to pastebin that, its a single line)
[04:42] <xangua> percent20: the sames as ubuntu or any other of the ubuntu distro family
[04:42] <pep0> Linux ubu 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu
[04:43] <jayar> my ubuntu is saying my networking
[04:43] <jayar> isnt compatible with this version
[04:43] <pep0> i check from here --> http://www.adobe.com/es/software/flash/about/
[04:43] <pep0> and the flash player its installed on my pc
[04:43] <pep0> thanks ActionParsnip
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> pep0: thats not the full output of the command
[04:44] <jayar> "The system network services are not compatible with this version"
[04:44] <pep0> Linux ubu 3.5.0-17-generic #28-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 9 19:32:08 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> pep0: thanks
[04:45] <ActionParsnip> pep0: well, you have a 32bit OS, I suggest you remove the flashplugin-installer package and install the adobe-flashplugin package from the partner repo
[04:46] <rushboy> Can anyone please help me with this : how do i copy a directory from one a source to a destination in ubuntu ?
[04:46] <ActionParsnip> rushboy: are you able to write to the destination as your user?
[04:46] <WXZ> how do I get a list of all the root windows that xserver has setup on my computer?
[04:46] <rushboy> as
[04:46] <pep0> how do that
[04:46] <somsip> rushboy: cp -R oldpath/olddir newpath/newdir
[04:47] <boriseto> pep0: If you are using firefox, install the add-on flash-aid. It will automatically install flash for your machine.
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> WXZ: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1254376
[04:47] <WXZ> ActionParsnip: thanks
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> boriseto: why? there is already a package to install flash?
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> pep0: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest90518
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> pep0: enable the partner repo either in /etc/apt/sources.list or use software centre
[04:49] <boriseto> ActionParship: I know, but it does everything for him, without having to remove and then install...
[04:49] <xangua> boriseto: sounds like magic
[04:50] <boriseto> xangua: it might be. :)
[04:50] <pep0> i use chrome, let me try
[04:51] <boriseto> pep0: oh, well in that case, stick to whatever ActionParsnip told you.
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> pep0: if you use chrome, you don't need any flash packages installed, it uses it's own
[04:52] <rushboy> somsip: Thank you :-)
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> pep0: its why I use chrome :)
[04:53] <pep0> i removed the plugin
[04:54] <boriseto> pep0, wait, do you use chrome or chromium?
[04:54] <pep0> chrome my friend
[04:54] <pep0> boriseto,
[04:55] <pep0> why boriseto ?
[04:57] <pep0> be back in a bit
[05:03] <ogist> hello
[05:11] <hexstatik> hello there, i am new to linux and need major help with ati/amd drivers. Here is a post to summarise it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/235605/xubuntu-12-10-amd-catalyst-12-11-beta-11-installation-not-working-how-to-recove
[05:12] <ogist> hex
[05:12] <hexstatik> yes
[05:12] <ogist> i can help you
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics  may help
[05:12] <hexstatik> please do
[05:12] <ogist> dont listen to that
[05:12] <hexstatik> no i dont have hybrid graphics
[05:12] <ogist> ill help ya
[05:12] <ogist> i need to find the website
[05:12] <ogist> sec
[05:12] <FloodBot1> ogist: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik: I suspect you will have a lot of issues there, dual GPUs are a headache
[05:13] <hexstatik> is radeon hd 6950
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik: good, the gpu is also liked by the xorg in quantal :)
[05:14] <ogist> ok
[05:14] <ogist> type the following in the console
[05:14] <ogist> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx
[05:15] <hexstatik> im on guest user rightnow
[05:15] <ogist> that's ok i think
[05:15] <ogist> as long as you type sudo
[05:15] <hexstatik> and im not able to change to to my primary user in terminal
[05:15] <hexstatik> u
[05:15] <ogist> it will ask for your password
[05:16] <ogist> after you type that...
[05:16] <ogist> sudo apt-get update
[05:16] <ogist> and then
[05:16] <ogist> sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:16] <ogist> and finally
[05:16] <ogist> sudo apt-get install fglrx-legacy
[05:17] <ogist> after all that is complete, reboot
[05:17] <hexstatik> shoot, says i must be root
[05:17] <hexstatik> i tried sudo su
[05:17] <hexstatik> sudo: unable to change to sudoers gid: Operation not permitted
[05:17] <ogist> do you not have the root pass?
[05:17] <dr_willis> dont use sudo su.   just sudo -s   for a root shell
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[05:18] <ogist> su = switch user
[05:18] <Zenexer> I'm trying to compress a folder into a .tar.xz file while passing some custom parameters to xz.  I made an intermediate .tar, but xz doesn't seem to want to compress anything.  It looks like it's always trying to decompress, because no matter what I feed it, I get this error: "xz: File format not recognized"
[05:18] <ogist> hexstatik, it's because proprietary drivers do not work on the latest version of X
[05:18] <hexstatik> action: Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l
[05:18] <Zenexer> I've tried various flags, and settled with -kt9z
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> ogist: works here with nvidia
[05:19] <hexstatik> ogist: thats why i got the beta 12.11 drivers they do
[05:19] <ogist> ActionParsnip, ati is what hexstatik has
[05:19] <hexstatik> i tried 12.10 ones before that
[05:19] <Zenexer> -z should force compression, but either it's trying to decompress anyway, or it wants something specific.
[05:19] <TXRoadkill> Ubuntu has apparently stopped supporting the Seamonkey Project.  I use Composer all the time.  Does anyone know of a good substitute WYSIWYG web authoring tool which 12.10 supports?
[05:19] <ogist> http://www.unixmen.com/ubuntu-12-10-and-amd-catalyst-problem-solved/
[05:19] <ogist> i actually did this today and it worked for me
[05:20] <hexstatik> guest-9jUhIB@comp:~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx
[05:20] <hexstatik> sudo: unable to change to sudoers gid: Operation not permitted
[05:20] <Zenexer> I've also tried doing it through stdio as the manpage demonstrates, but the example doesn't work for me.
[05:20] <ActionParsnip> ogist: hexstatik has a 6950, that is for 2xxx 3xxx and 4xxx
[05:20] <ogist> oh
[05:20] <ogist> hmm
[05:20] <hexstatik> yea i have hd 6950 radeon 2gb
[05:21] <ogist> sorry
[05:21] <dr_willis> hexstatik:  you are the guest user? or a normal user right now?
[05:21] <hexstatik> guest
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> ogist: tried Precise? It is LTS so supported long after even Raring is EOL
[05:21] <hexstatik> cant login to my normal user it just takes me rightback to log in screen afther the screen goes black for a awhile
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik: what is the output of:  groups
[05:22] <hexstatik> guest-9jUhIB
[05:22] <Zenexer> Can someone do me a favor, and try to compress a file with xz on 12.10, and let me know if it works?
[05:22] <dr_willis> hexstatik:  guest cant sudo. try logging as your user on the console
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik: oh, then you won't be able to do much at all
[05:23] <hexstatik> dr_willis: guest-9jUhIB
[05:23] <hexstatik> er
[05:23] <hexstatik> dr_willis: Password:
[05:23] <hexstatik> setgid: Operation not permitted
[05:23] <hexstatik> when i try to su username
[05:23] <ogist> ActionParsnip, what?
[05:23] <ogist> i havent tried precise
[05:23] <dr_willis> hexstatik:  LOGIN at the console as your user... not under guest
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> ogist: sorry, was meant for hexstatik
[05:24] <Zenexer> Does xz have a file size limit?
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> Zenexer: shouldn't do as far as I know
[05:24] <Zenexer> It doesn't like my 32 GB tar archive.
[05:24] <hexstatik> dr_willis: ok should i get on irc on diffrent machine? im using the guest account to be on irc rightnow
[05:24] <ActionParsnip> Zenexer: could try in 2 stages. Make a tar of the data then gzip the tar
[05:25] <Zenexer> Seems to be working with the same arguments on a text file.
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> Zenexer: ah
[05:25] <dr_willis> hexstatik:  you can irc from the console if you wanted to
[05:25] <ogist> I installed cairo-dock earlier and clicked to include the enlightenment window manager, how do i know if enlightenment is working?
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik: tried bzip or 7zip etc?
[05:25] <hexstatik> yea i have irssi
[05:26] <hexstatik> action: for what puropose?
[05:26] <Zenexer> Eh, never mind, it's not working on a text file either; just looked like it was working the first time
[05:26] <Zenexer> Same error: file format not recognized
[05:26] <dr_willis> ogist:  did you select enlightmnt at the login screen?
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> Zenexer: ah, good test
[05:27] <ForSpareParts> Is there a way to prevent the top menu bar from appearing over fullscreen applications maximized on another screen when the app loses focus?
[05:27] <ForSpareParts> Under Unity, that is.
[05:27] <Zenexer> Ah.  I think -t was throwing it off--I have to run an integrity test as a separate command, after the file is already compressed, I think.
[05:28] <kunji> Hmm, in case anyone is interested, upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10 fixed the wireless problems I was asking about this morning.  I can't say anything conclusive about exactly what the fix was though, unfortunately it was a spray and pray approach to fixing it.
[05:28] <Zenexer> I thought I tried it without that, but I guess not.
[05:32] <hexstatik> dr_willis, sorry i went afk for a second
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> kunji: glad you got the gold. shame the LTS wasn't up to it :(
[05:33] <hexstatik> not really sure how i can run irssi, and terminal at the same time
[05:33] <xenome> can I change the grub fb image (tux pengium) displayed during boot w/o having to rebuild the kernel?
[05:33] <ActionParsnip> xenome: how do you mean 'fb image'?
[05:34] <ViperXL75> hi
[05:34] <hexstatik> ill just use the laptop for irc, brb
[05:34] <xenome> the boot images displayed in the top left corner
[05:34] <xenome> for my omap4 install, I get two penguins
[05:34] <ViperXL75> I'm logged in on the Ubuntu Gui. How do i run a program as Root without having to go in the Terminal first to type "su [progname]"  ?  Can you do that directly from the Gui?
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> ViperXL75: press ALT+F2 and run:  gksudo appname
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> xenome: Is it using Grub2?
[05:35] <ViperXL75> ah. tx
[05:35] <rollitup> hi guys
[05:35] <kubuntuser> hello
[05:36] <phax> Hi guys I updated to Ubuntu 11.10 and  the wireless does not connect to my old profile, or shows me surrounding networks...but I can use iwlist scan to get the list..so it seems the drver is ok..is there any service i need to start ?
[05:36] <rollitup> i am trying to create a symlink but not been able to achieve exactly what i want
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> phax: which release did you upgrade from?
[05:36] <xenome> nope, uboot
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: what are you trying to achieve?
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> xenome: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[05:37] <phax> ActionParsnip, 10.0.4 to 11.0.4 to 11.10
[05:37] <rollitup> i have created a vhosts dir /var/www/icw.dev and i wish to link this to a dir /home/instant/public_html/icw
[05:37] <xenome> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[05:37] <xenome> i'm using the arm version
[05:37] <rollitup> so i tried this command sudo ln -s /home/instant/public_html/icw/
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> phax: you shouldn't upgrade 10.04 ro 11.04, you need to upgrade to maverick first
[05:38] <vitaliko> dr_willis: im back
[05:38] <ogist> how come when i create a shortcut to quake2 executable, it just opens and closes in <1sec
[05:38] <phax> ActionParsnip, well without network connectivity not sure what to do now ?
[05:38] <rollitup> it did create a link but not exactly what i want for example now when i type icw.dev it takes me to the web directory where icw dir is shown
[05:38] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: so the intention is to link the icw.dev folder so it appears to have the same data as the folder in your home folder?
[05:38] <rollitup> instead of showing the index file that is placed in the icw dir
[05:38] <ogist> also when i try to open quake2 from the cairo-dock folder menu, it tries to open it with a package viewer
[05:38] <phax> ActionParsnip, but why is it wrong to expect this to work ?
[05:38] <rollitup> yes
[05:39] <kubuntuser> anyone know if it's possible to broadcast on a shoutcast server with ubuntu ?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> phax: because yu leapfrogged a release
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> phax: you could in factg upgrade 10.04 to 10.10  or direct to 12.04 (LTS to LTS)
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> kubuntuser: look into icecast
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: sudo ln -s /home/instant/public_html/icw /var/www/icw.dev
[05:40] <kubuntuser> ActionParsnip: yes but it's possible to broadcast with a player ?
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: sudo ln -s <source> <dest>
[05:40] <rollitup> ok
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> kubuntuser: vlc can
[05:40] <ogist> how do i make a shortcut to a file and put it on my desktop? i clicked on quake2 and chose make link, and i put it on the desktop, but it doesnt work...
[05:40] <kubuntuser> ActionParsnip: mmm broadcast too ?
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> phax: if you remove the wifi network from within gconf and reboot, can you connect to it?
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> kubuntuser: maybe, not sure
[05:41] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: i get this error ln: failed to create symbolic link `/var/www/icw.dev/icw': File exists
[05:41] <kubuntuser> ActionParsnip: i try now
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> ogist: you could make a .desktop file for it, you can then have a nice icon too :)
[05:41] <dr_willis> ogist:  easiest way is to make a bash script that runs the game
[05:41] <rollitup> maybe i have to remove the earlier created symlinks and then try the command again ?
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: ok, what is the output of:   file /var/www/icw.dev/icw
[05:41] <ogist> :)
[05:42] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: do u mean the output i get in the terminal ?
[05:42] <phax> ActionParsnip, how do i correctly upgrade to the 12.04 and instal all missing deps from cmd line ?
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: yes, 'file' is a command
[05:42] <vitaliko> ok, so can anyone please help, I installed 12.11 ati drivers and now i cant login to my normal user, guest works  fine. Tried purging the drivers and reverting back to x.org drivers and no luck...ive spent so much time on this ish
[05:42] <phax> I can use the wired network
[05:43] <rollitup> ERROR: cannot open `/var/www/icw.dev/dev' (No such file or directory)
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | phax
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: /var/www/icw.dev/icw not /var/www/icw.dev/dev
[05:44] <ogist> ActionParsnip: I have a icon file (png) and the game is /home/ogist/Games/quake2/quake2
[05:44] <rollitup>  sorry my bad this is what i get /var/www/icw.dev/icw: symbolic link to `/home/instant/public_html/icw/'
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: I thought the symlink was just to /var/www/icw.dev ?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: cool, the link is made :)
[05:45] <hexstatik_> my specs are: i5 2500k, hd radeon 6950, 8gb
[05:45] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: the link is made but when i type icw.dev in the browser it shows the icw directory but not the index.html within this dir
[05:46] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: there is an index.html  within /home/instant/public_html/icw
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: does apache follow links?
[05:47] <rollitup> sorry i didn't get what you meant to ask ?
[05:47] <iseer> Could i please get somebody to take a look at my question on askubuntu?
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik_: the i5-2500k is a sandybridge
[05:47] <dr_willis> i thought apache had a security setting to not follow links
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik_: so you have an Intel HD 3000 in the CPU. You have a switchable GPU setup
[05:48] <iseer> are we allowed to provide links in this channel?
[05:48] <hexstatik_> ok
[05:49] <ogist> Does anyone here have cairo-dock? That little 4-screen switch thing disappeared
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> iseer: sure
[05:49] <dr_willis> use the dock settings to readd it perhaps ogist
[05:49] <hexstatik_> ActionParsnip: when i was in gnome under software courses it did show that my radeon was the active card
[05:50] <hexstatik_> if thats what you were implying
[05:50] <iseer> could somebody please have a look at this and see if they know what is wrong and/or how to fix it http://askubuntu.com/questions/237658/can-somebody-help-fix-ubuntu-12-04-being-stuck-at-black-screen-on-regular-boot
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik_: all I can recommend is read the ubuntu hybrid graphics page. If you can, disable the inbuilt GPU or just remove the ATI and you'll be fine
[05:50] <ogist> dr_willis, it was something that was not even on the dock
[05:51] <ogist> a little thing with 4 screens
[05:51] <ogist> i clicked show-desktop somehow and now it is gone
[05:51] <hexstatik_> initially i used the open sourse drivers and they worked fine exept for some performance degradation
[05:51] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: is this the only limit to creating symlinks ?
[05:51] <ogist> the workspace switcher thingy
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> iseer: 3.7 kernel isn't supported here
[05:51] <hexstatik_> then i used 12.10 ati and found out they're not supported
[05:51] <rollitup> i mean it would link to the dir but won't show the index.html file within it ?
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: limit in what way?
[05:52] <hexstatik_> ActionParsnip: ok ill try and see there is a way to disable in bios, but i think i would  already have that
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: a link will show all the files you have in the folder. You may need to chown the linked files a little so that the service can access it
[05:52] <ogist> ok i fixed it
[05:52] <iseer> ActionParsnip: what is the latest kernel i am under the impression that i will need at least 3.6.3 to use my inbuilt dvbt card
[05:52] <ogist> :)
[05:52] <ogist> ubuntu is sweet lookin
[05:53] <iseer> latest kernel that is suppoted *
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic precise | iseer
[05:53] <rollitup> chown root /home/instant/public_html/icw/index.html  is this how i should try ?
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> iseer: you will need to install Raring to get the 3.7 kernel but it is pre-release unttil April
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: not root, look at the other files in /var/www
[05:54] <rollitup> ok
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: if you start trying to guess tsuff in Linux you will bork your OS.
[05:54] <dr_willis> hexstatik_:  im not even sure what your situation is. no need to msg me. im at work and may have to leave irc at a moments notice
[05:55] <hexstatik_> you were just helping me 5 min ago,
[05:55] <hexstatik_> ok, so can anyone please help, I installed 12.11 ati drivers and now i cant login to my normal user, guest works  fine. Tried purging the drivers and reverting back to x.org drivers and no luck...ive spent so much time on this ish
[05:55] <iseer> ActionParsnip: is there any prevalent bugs in raring that would make regular use difficult or is it usable?
[05:55] <dr_willis> and i help dozens of people a day. and my irc log is about 10 lines of history
[05:55] <hexstatik_> using ati radeon hd 6950
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik_: if you make a fresh user in root recovery mode and add it to the sudo group, then log in as the new user, is it ok?
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> iseer: its pre-release so its a bit of a mixed bag
[05:57] <iseer> ActionParsnip: im fine with it a bit buggy aslong as i can use my wireless and boot lol, i have to boot through recovery mode now
[05:57] <sin_tax> quick cron question.... this doesn't seem to be working so I must be doing something wrong: @reboot rtorrent /data01/torrents/start  <--- should that not run '/data01/torrents/start' as the user 'rtorrent' on reboot?
[05:58] <hexstatik_> ActionParsnip: I can try, but the point being i have spent alot of time setting up that user the way i wanted
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik_: well if you can't log in as the user its not much good is it...
[05:58] <hexstatik_> true
[05:59] <hexstatik_> i mean i can login from the terminal
[05:59] <jirido> Hi i try to install lubuntu from a usb stick but everytime it get stuck at the "Who are you" .. Any advice?
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> jirido: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[06:00] <jirido> No
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> jirido: if you use all lower case letters is it ok?
[06:00] <jirido> i did
[06:00] <dr_willis> you could reset all the problem useres settings as a test hexstatik_    but you will have to figure out what setting is the issue. or just reset them all
[06:00] <jirido> You mean the name?
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> jirido: all of it
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> jirido: all the boxes you typed in, use all lower case letters
[06:01] <jirido> I think al ofit yes
[06:01] <ViperXL75> In the name of all that is unholy! How do I check which command to start K3b burner? I need to start it as Root, but can't find the correct command to start it up with.  :(
[06:01] <jirido> I did
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> jirido: check, if you used all lower case then I suggest you MD5 test the ISO so that you know it is error free and complete
[06:01] <dr_willis> ViperXL75:  its 'k3b' last time i tried
[06:02] <jirido> I used unetbootin to put it on stick
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> jirido: if you have web access in liveCD, run:  sudo apt-get install ubiquity gparted     and it will upgrade the installer to the latest version. Then run it
[06:02] <dr_willis> ViperXL75:  or see what the k3b.desktop file launches
[06:02] <jirido> I dont have any cd
[06:03] <ViperXL75> dr_willis: thing is, I start it from that Alt-F2 interface. I never get a hold of the shortcut itself.
[06:03] <jirido> But ill check md5
[06:03] <hexstatik_> okay, so if i were to reinstall ubuntu or make a new user, what whould be the best driver to install to get the most performance from radeon hf6950? Using 12.10 ubuntu....
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> jirido: you don't need a CD, you have the USB :)
[06:04] <hexstatik_> mainly for GUI performance(im kind of a freak when it comes to smooth actions in GUI) and gaming as well
[06:04] <jirido> should i run :  sudo apt-get install ubiquity gparted in the installer or..
[06:05] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: i chown 'ed instance /home/instant/public_html/icw but still it does not show up the index file
[06:05] <rollitup> sorry instant
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: i'd ask in the apache channel :)
[06:05] <rollitup> ok
[06:05] <rollitup> that sounds good
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik_: your guest user is ok, so my guess is the driver is ok. Worth exploring
[06:05] <chovy> does ubuntu have newer software than debian?
[06:05] <dr_willis> !latest
[06:06] <gonzojive> I upgraded my old ubuntu machine, where the root file system is RAID 1 ext3, and upon restart I'm given a grub prompt
[06:06] <gonzojive> what do I do next?
[06:07] <jirido> ActionParsnip, Should i run  sudo apt-get install ubiquity gparted during the install or on the mashine i use to put the iso on the stick?
[06:08] <ogist> ok so how do i make a desktop file
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> jirido: boot to the live OS and run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubiquity gparted; sudo apt-get clean
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> jirido: then run the installer as normal
[06:08] <hexstatik_> ActionParsnip: actually now that you say that it might not be anything to do with the video card drivers. What else do you think it could be...again the issue is that i try to login to my user and login screen and it just kicks me back out
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> ogist: I always copy one from ~/.config/autostart then modify
[06:09] <jirido> Ok
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik_: settings in your users home maybe
[06:09] <hexstatik_> where should i look
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik_: the new user will have vanilla settings
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik_: boot to root recovery and run:  adduser testname sudo
[06:09] <hexstatik_> ok brb
[06:10] <iseer> ActionParsnip: ok so im downloading the 64 bit pc iso now, do you have any idea when it will be officially released?
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> iseer: April 2013
[06:10] <gIneeRing> any Android guys that like to make money.
[06:10] <inflames> Hello, I am stuck on the lock screen for cinnamon on ubuntu 12.04, i see a bluebox appears to be the size of my secondary monitor and other than that I have a black screen with a time and username with a lock icon, can someone help me fix this./
[06:10] <gIneeRing> ??
[06:10] <ActionParsnip> iseer: april being the (4)th month in 20(13)...hence 13.04   being the version number
[06:11] <gIneeRing> hey ActionParsnip, I tried FB it didnt work
[06:11] <gIneeRing> lol
[06:11] <iseer> ActionParsnip: thanks i didnt know that i'm quite new to ubuntu. aslong as it boots, and can run python3.2 im fine, if bumblebee works on it that is a bonus because it is an optimus laptop but thank you so much :D
[06:11] <gIneeRing> I need some assistance with my Ubuntu 12.04 though... it does not turn on my W-Lan card - Sony Vaio
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> iseer: if you can disable a GPU in BIOS I would do that. Optimus is a mess. I'm avoiding it like Paris Hilton avoids talent
[06:12] <gonzojive> anyone have experience booting up ubuntu from grub shell?
[06:13] <jirido> ActionParsnip, Is 1gig memory to little maybe?
[06:13] <iseer> ActionParsnip: I have looked around and couldn't find anything to do that but would be willing to because i don't really think my gpu has much on the inel inbuilt graphics as it is only a gtx630m
[06:14] <iseer> gIneeRing: do you know what wlan card you are using
[06:14] <jirido> It does start up live anyway
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> jirido: 512Mb is minimal, you'll be ok. Could use XFCE or LXDE to reduce used resources
[06:14] <jirido> its lubuntu
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> gIneeRing: what wifi chip are you using?
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> jirido: should be fine. LXDE is dead light
[06:15] <jirido> can i install from inside the livecd?
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> gonzojive: http://www.chrissearle.org/blog/technical/booting_grub_shell  may help
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> gonzojive: If I get that I always just chroot from liveCD and reinstate grub2 there
[06:15] <ogist> ActionParsnip, :)
[06:15] <inflames> is there some place to go to get better help with cinnamon? should i try #mint?
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> jirido: yes
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> inflames: mint support is on a different network
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> !mint
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> ^
[06:16] <jivora> Hi what does cmov stand for in /lib/tls/i686/cmov/ . Thanks.
[06:16] <iseer> gIneeRing: do you know exactly which sony vaio it is because there are several different models
[06:16] <inflames> but i am on ubuntu and running cinnamon
[06:16] <gIneeRing> ActionParsnip, not sure. one secondo, although there was no issue before
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> inflames: we cannot support cinammon here
[06:17] <inflames> ok, thanks ActionParsnip
[06:17] <inflames> as always
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> no worries :)
[06:17] <Ben64> the mint people might not support it either
[06:20] <gIneeRing> ActionParsnip, Intel Wifi Link 5100 AGN
[06:21] <gIneeRing> the light doesnt want to come on (switch in front)
[06:21] <gIneeRing> Sony Vai - NS29OJ btw
[06:21] <rollitup> ActionParsnip: i joined the #apache channel but it says Cannot send to channel: #httpd is that the right channnel ?
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> gIneeRing: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network     is it unclaimed?
[06:21] <gIneeRing> im not on the system right now
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> rollitup: join that channel then :)
[06:21] <somsip> !alis | rollitup
[06:21] <gIneeRing> i suppose i will do it tomorrow.
[06:22] <gIneeRing> I need some find some entreprenuers lol
[06:22] <^BladeRnR> dejavu :->
[06:25] <rollitup> !alis
[06:25] <rollitup> !alis | rollitup
[06:35] <Tigerx1078> hi where can i go to see what other people are talking about what system they use to run ubuntu on?
[06:36] <somsip> Tigerx1078: you can chat in #ubuntu-offtopic if that helps?
[06:36] <Tigerx1078> trying to figure out which version i need for my system
[06:37] <somsip> Tigerx1078: what choices are youi considering?
[06:37] <Tigerx1078> like a server with a gui inside it
[06:37] <somsip> Tigerx1078: for production, or just dev/testing?
[06:37] <Tigerx1078> just for home
[06:38] <somsip> Tigerx1078: how will you connect to it - with a monitor or over LAN with SSH or similar?
[06:38] <jirido> ActionParsnip, the copy was ok and i did  sudo apt-get install ubiquity gparted but still the installer hangs on "Who are you?" dialog after the files are copied.. in taskmanager only lxtask use cpu
[06:38] <Tigerx1078> both
[06:38] <somsip> Tigerx1078: how much RAM?
[06:38] <iseer> ActionParsnip: I'm installing it now I'll let you know how it goes
[06:39] <Tigerx1078> got plenty
[06:39] <Tigerx1078> i belive 4gb
[06:40] <somsip> Tigerx1078: well, your options are wide open really. 32 bit with PAE kernel or 64 bit is probably a better recommendation. If it's not production you dont really need LTS of 12.04, but it might be more stable. And either server install, then put a GUI on top, or a lightweight desktop such as lubuntu or xubuntu. No firm answer really
[06:40] <fulcan> what is the easist/best way to launch a script into a users xsession? i.e. from ssh make firefox open on the users desktop?
[06:41] <Tigerx1078> i see somsip i tried 12.04 server its choppy in the gui
[06:41] <Tigerx1078> its a p4 2.4 ghz with 4 or more gb of ram
[06:41] <Tigerx1078> a 04 model
[06:41] <somsip> Tigerx1078: could be all manner of things. What desktop?
[06:42] <somsip> Tigerx1078: sorry - what WM on the desktop...
[06:42] <Tigerx1078> dell dimension 4600
[06:42] <Tigerx1078> and i added a graffics card to
[06:42] <somsip> Tigerx1078: no - when GUI was choppy, what GUI were you using, and how did you set this up given server edition does not come with a GUI IIRC
[06:43] <Tigerx1078> i did it in the comannd like
[06:43] <Tigerx1078> to install the gui
[06:43] <Tigerx1078> gnome
[06:43] <Tigerx1078> i'm on a differnt puter at the moment
[06:46] <somsip> Tigerx1078: If you want help, you will need to give more details. Do you want to get this GUI sorted out, or reinstall a different version?
[06:46] <vnc786> running kubunut 12.04 through LTSP when i am trying to save some files on desktop it doesn't show up on desktop ?
[06:46] <Tigerx1078> would a differnt version help like a older one somsip?
[06:47] <somsip> Tigerx1078: difficult to tell without knowing what the real problem is. If the current GUI is choppy, using a different GUI will possibly give a different result.
[06:48] <Tigerx1078> ok
[06:48] <ogist> wow
[06:48] <ogist> i cant even make a desktop shortcut work
[06:48] <ogist> linux is tough stuff
[06:48] <somsip> Tigerx1078: simple answer may be to put a lightweight version on, such as lubuntu or xubuntu. If it's easy for you to try that, it may give you a solution
[06:49] <vnc786> can i ask directly question here ?
[06:49] <ogist> yeah
[06:50] <Tigerx1078> ok will those versions work for being a server somsip?
[06:50] <vnc786> running kubunut 12.04 through LTSP when i am trying to save some files on desktop it doesn't show up on desktop ?
[06:50] <somsip> Tigerx1078: what do you mean by 'server'? What will you be running?
[06:51] <Tigerx1078> file server,webserver
[06:51] <somsip> Tigerx1078: yes - it'll make no difference really. It might just make it easier for you to manage if sometimes you will have direct access with a monitor, rather than if you only had SSH
[06:51] <hexstatik> ActionParsnip: i fixed it, basically all i had to do was to change ownership of Xauthority
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik: sweet, been running GUI apps with sudo by any chance?
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik: does:  sudo gedit    or:   sudo nautilus   sound familiar?
[06:52] <hexstatik> yes
[06:52] <Tigerx1078> ok somsip thanks for the help i'll try that
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik: that's what causes it
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik: you don't run GUI apps with sudo
[06:53] <hexstatik> ActionParsnip: i c, lesson learned
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik: you use gksudo
[06:53] <somsip> Tigerx1078: no probs. Not a definitive answer though. No real right or wrong thing to do.
[06:53] <hexstatik> yes
[06:53] <hexstatik> now ive reinforced my knowledge:)
[06:54] <Tigerx1078> ok somsip i'll try a older version form the web that people talk about if i can find any and give those a try as well
[06:55] <hexstatik> i think its time to try installing the drivers again
[06:56] <somsip> Tigerx1078: no need to use an older version. Just try a lighter window manager if that was the thing that was bothering you. eg lubuntu, xubuntu
[06:57] <Tigerx1078> ok thanks somsip i belive it was.  since i could not install the drivers for the grafics card from restriced drivers
[07:00] <dibblego> I have ubuntu 10.10 installed — can I install a package without upgrading the version?
[07:00] <ActionParsnip> dibblego: no, there are no more packages for Maverick
[07:00] <dibblego> ok np cheers
[07:01] <fulcan>  setenv DISPLAY bt/unix:0  No command 'setenv' found, did you mean:  ???    env DISPLAY bt/unix:0  env: DISPLAY: No such file or directory  ???   how do you set the display variable?
[07:01] <dibblego> I shall attempt the upgrade and hope!
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> dibblego: if you clean install with Precise, you will get support til april 2017 :)
[07:01] <ActionParsnip> dibblego: or upgrade
[07:01] <dibblego> yeah I will see if I can get to 12.04 by upgrade
[07:04] <the_dark_knight> Hi, I how do I test the performance of my website using it's URL. How do I write a shell script which will benchmark it give me the throughput of this app? please help.
[07:05] <somsip> the_dark_knight: depends how simple you want it. You could hit it with ab (apache benchmark) for example
[07:05] <somsip> *apachebench
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> !info ab
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> !info apachebench
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> http://serverfault.com/questions/43692/how-much-of-a-performance-hit-for-https-vs-http-for-apache
[07:06] <iseer> ActionParsnip: i downloaded the 13.04 image and mounted it to a disk but when i installed it, it now says it is 12.10 on the bottom left of the screen at login page
[07:06] <somsip> !info apache2-utils
[07:08] <rushboy> somsip: Here is the libreoffice repo : http://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/libreoffice/core.git/ . I want to fork it on github . Can u please guide me how to do it ?
[07:09] <iseer> ActionParsnip: nvm that obviously hasn't been updated to display 13.04 yet sorry :P
[07:09] <fulcan> how do i launch a script into a users xsession?  i.e. from ssh make firefox open on the users desktop?
[07:10] <somsip> rushboy: way OT for here. Basically you would clone it, create an empty github for it, add a new remote being the github repo, assign local:master to github:master, and push all of the code. You need to find an online tutorial that explains this better though.
[07:10] <somsip> *push all of the code to the github repo
[07:10] <jianmeng1> I got a error about drm:drm_edid_block_valid in file syslog.
[07:11] <jianmeng1> And one  LCD of my dual screen  got a black screen.
[07:17] <Clarus> hello
[07:17] <Clarus> im using xchat how do I add a new channel
[07:18] <Clarus> dont worry
[07:18] <Clarus> worked it out
[07:18] <magn3ts> So is libvirt not broken for anyone on 12.10 or is that a stupid question?
[07:18] <hexstatik> Error 5: dependency not met: gawk not found in path
[07:19] <rushboy> somsip: sorry not github, I want to do something similar to forking here : https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/admin/projects/core . I want to add a patch , can u please guide me to do so ?
[07:19] <gSuss> hello
[07:20] <somsip> rushboy: no I can't. There are plenty of online tutorials out there to help you with this
[07:20] <gSuss> backtrack 5 anyone?
[07:20] <somsip> !backtrack | gSuss
[07:21] <rushboy> somsip: Okay . Thanks for helping me out previously :-)
[07:21] <magn3ts> Uncaught error validating hardware input: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'set_parent'
[07:21] <magn3ts> libvirt. Broken. Lame. Can't find a fix online, any help?
[07:24] <somsip> rushboy: that link says 'If you need help with your patch or want to discuss it, do not hesitate to join #libreoffice-dev on freenode IRC' Did you try?
[07:24] <rushboy> somsip: yes , but no response .
[07:26] <somsip> rushboy: k. You saw this I guess? http://www.libreoffice.org/developers-2/
[07:26] <nldimitris> Hello to all of you , is there any good place for python programming?
[07:27] <somsip> nldimitris: #python
[07:28] <mah454> Helo
[07:28] <mah454> Hello
[07:28] <rushboy> somsip: yes , but if i'm able to locate the libreoffice core repo on github or even scm , I would fork it online . i tried but in vain . Can u help me just one more time to locate the libreoffice core repo please ?
[07:29] <somsip> rushboy: you posted a link to it yourself...the one ending in core.git above. And it's in the link I just gave you. What are you missing?
[07:38] <genteor> hi there! do u know any channel for bioinformatics??
[07:38] <somsip> !alis
[07:40] <genteor> thnx ubottu , much appreciated
[07:42] <polpol> ##windows
[07:46] <Noskcaj> polpol, blasphemy
[07:48] <gSuss> hi
[07:48] <kPb_in> Hello Guys.. Whats the proper way to add DNS servers.. the resolve.conf file says DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[07:49] <somsip> kPb_in: Loads of info here http://askubuntu.com/questions/130452/how-do-i-add-a-dns-server-via-resolv-conf
[07:59] <dctrd> hey guys
[07:59] <dctrd> when i boot up ubuntu on vm
[07:59] <dctrd> it tells me
[08:00] <dctrd> this kernel requires a x86-64 cpu
[08:00] <dctrd> but only detected an i686 cpu,unable to boot
[08:00] <dctrd> wats the damn problem
[08:00] <trijntje> dctrd: language please
[08:01] <dctrd> what?
[08:01] <dctrd> english
[08:01] <trijntje> and you need to select 'ubuntu, 64 bit' as host system, not ubuntu 32 bit
[08:01] <dctrd> -.-
[08:01] <dctrd> hows that
[08:01] <trijntje> dctrd: no, I mean mind your language please
[08:01] <dctrd> uhhhh sleeping...eating....internet.....watching porn
[08:03] <dctrd> trijntje how?
[08:04] <somsip> dcplaya: http://hereirestinremorse.wordpress.com/virtualbox/this-kernel-requires-an-x86-64-cpu-but-only-detected-an-i686-cpu-unable-to-boot-please-use-a-kernel-appropriate-for-your-cpu/
[08:04] <somsip> dcplaya: meant for dctrd but I think he's gone
[08:04] <Yaben3amme> no im still here
[08:06] <Yaben3amme> and i didnt uerstand shitnd
[08:06] <Yaben3amme> and after all that talking whats the solution?
[08:06] <somsip> Yaben3amme: read the link
[08:06] <Yaben3amme> i did
[08:08] <Yaben3amme> somsip just say damn solution man
[08:08] <trijntje> Yaben3amme: please mind your language in this channel
[08:08] <somsip> !attitude | Yaben3amme
[08:08] <somsip> Yaben3amme: but it's the last sentence on the link I gave.
[08:08] <Yaben3amme> ok sorry
[08:08] <Yaben3amme> sorry
[08:08] <gIneeRing> wee
[08:09] <Yaben3amme> and how should i know which one is appropriate?
[08:09] <somsip> Yaben3amme: the one where is says SOLUTION in uppercase bold letters
[08:09] <trijntje> Yaben3amme: also, did you select ubuntu, 64 bits while creating the virtual machine?
[08:09] <Yaben3amme> yes
[08:12] <Yaben3amme> i didnt find the option to create a 64 bit one
[08:12] <Yaben3amme> just have the option of ubuntu
[08:12] <Yaben3amme> no 64 bit
[08:12] <trijntje> Yaben3amme: its in the first screen when creating a new virtual machine
[08:13] <trijntje> Operating system: Linux. Version: Ubuntu  (64 bit)
[08:13] <Yaben3amme> there is only ubuntu
[08:13] <Yaben3amme> theres no ubuntu 34
[08:13] <Yaben3amme> or ubuntu 64
[08:13] <NuSuey> ah, what is the ubuntu channel where I can chit-chat :D?
[08:13] <Ben64> Yaben3amme: then download 32 bit ubuntu
[08:13] <Yaben3amme> ok
[08:14] <Ben64> NuSuey: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:14] <Yaben3amme> good thing my internet is fast
[08:14] <somsip> NuSuey: you need #ubuntu-support for chat. This is for support
[08:14] <Ben64> somsip: uh..
[08:14] <somsip> NuSuey: noooo #ubuntu-offtopic. My bad
[08:15] <NuSuey> somsip, Ben64 thanks guys ;) you are awesome.. and you know it :p
[08:17] <sam__> I'm looking to automate some ubuntu installs and have them install some extra packages e.g.  Eclipse, tomcat etc… how best can i script the install to be unattended.  BTW the installs have to be self contained on the CD or USB and work when there is no internet connect?
[08:18] <NuSuey> ah, is there a way how to fix the hall32.dll (or is it hall.dll) windows boot .. without using the windows installation CD? (i'm asking because it would fu.k up my GRUB)
[08:18] <somsip> sam__: I've never heard of this before, but: http://fai-project.org/
[08:20] <mladoux> NuSuey, it might be easier to use the windows installation cd to fix it, then use the ubuntu install cd to repair grub afterwards.