[14:40] <jrwren_> glad I didn't buy blurays https://www.cyberlink.com/support/faq-content.do?id=26690
[14:43] <cmaloney> Yeah, that's part of why I haven't bought any bluray discs
[14:43] <cmaloney> (well, haven't bought any that didn't come with a DVD)
[15:36] <cmaloney> Happy birthday, stink_
[16:04] <Scary_Guy> I've never gotten BR to work on Linux and at this point I don't care anymore.
[16:09] <jrwren_> I've never bought a device capable of reading BR media :)
[16:11] <Scary_Guy> I think I have some extra drives if you want one :P
[16:12] <Scary_Guy> It's also nice to be able to burn disks, not that I ever do.
[16:17] <cmaloney> I mean, I remember how much effort they made in breaking DVD playing on non-sanctioned devices, so when I read about BluRay needing to be connected to the Internet for DRM updates I said "fuck that".
[16:34] <Scary_Guy> lol
[16:35] <Scary_Guy> Well with streaming everything is connected anyway.  Still gets cracked though and pirates always win in the end it seems.
[16:45] <jrwren_> yup
[16:45] <jrwren_> i know bluray 4k hdr actually looks better than streaming, but I'm old man with not the best eyes. streaming is fine for me.
[16:46] <Scary_Guy> Agreed :(
[16:58] <Scary_Guy> Anyone know how to remove "Command 'flatpak' not found, but can be installed with:" from my terminal, aside from the obvious reinstallation of it?
[17:01] <cmaloney> I have a 32" TV 1080p simple monitor with a TV tuner. I don't care.
[17:02] <cmaloney> Scary_Guy: You mean the ubuntu helpful "let me freeze for 2-5 seconds while I try to figure out an alternative..."?
[17:06] <Scary_Guy> I mean I don't see a freeze, just a nag message
[17:10] <Scary_Guy> NVM, apt purge flatpak worked


[07:19] <marcus> WaVeR, yes of course
[11:19] <marcus> WaVeR, I have pimped the page a bit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwissTeam/ReVerificationApplication2015


[09:25] <fishcooker> im on ubuntu 14.04... after i do reconfig /etc/network/interfaces... how to restart the network... i do /etc/init.d/networking restart but it don't use latest config
[09:27] <rbasak> fishcooker: easiest way? Reboot. If you want to bounce the loopback interface, then stuff may fail anyway. Complicated way? Bring down the interface(s) you're changing *first* using ifdown, then edit /etc/network/interfaces, then ifup what you need afterwards.
[09:28] <rbasak> "/etc/init.d/networking restart" doesn't really make sense in the modern era of hotpluggable NICs and complex network layouts such as bridges and bonds.
[09:28] <rbasak> And we don't have a goal-seeking networking configurator (yet).
[09:33] <fishcooker> noted
[09:52] <jamespage> bug 1659515
[09:55] <fishcooker> what's the diff between ifconfig eth0 up/down with if[up/down] rbasak?
[10:07] <rbasak> fishcooker: ifupdown keeps track of things in userspace for you, including doing DHCP, DNS, etc. ifconfig bypasses that and speaks to the kernel directly and does none of that.
[10:29] <frickler> jamespage: cleaning up old stuff I found https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1632538 , can you please check if that is good to go from -proposed to -updates now?
[10:34] <jamespage> frickler, looking now
[10:35] <jamespage> frickler, I can't do the move myself - but you've updated the tag so the SRU team should pickup soon
[10:35] <jamespage> rbasak, I know its not your day but is this something you could do ^^ ?
[10:45] <jamespage> coreycb, are we good to push proposed->updates for ocata?
[10:56] <rbasak> jamespage: trying but I'm just getting LP timeouts right now, sorry.
[11:57] <jamespage> rbasak, urgh
[11:57] <jamespage> rbasak, I think that went through (I just saw an email for one series)
[11:57] <jamespage> the 16.04 I think
[12:03] <rbasak> jamespage: retried both, done now I think, including the automatic bug comment.
[12:03] <jamespage> rbasak, thankyou - much appreciated - frickler ^^
[12:08] <rbasak> You're welcome
[12:31] <frickler> thanks from me to both of you
[12:32] <coreycb> jamespage, yes i think we can.  there's a bug in designate that seems to be an upstream bug.
[12:32] <coreycb> that's all
[12:40] <samba35> when i want to use update-alternative it says "" in manual mode "" what it mean ? do i run update-alternative every time ? can this be done auto ?
[12:52] <samba35> brb
[13:29] <jamespage> coreycb, ok promoting now
[13:29] <jamespage> you announce email lgtm btw
[13:29] <coreycb> jamespage, ok thanks
[13:51] <jamespage> coreycb, we might need to get neutron-lbaas-dashboard packaged up
[13:51] <zul> coreycb: there is some new deps out this morning but b3 is startnig to release as well, so im going to get to the deps first then start on b3
[13:51] <jamespage> its the lbaasv2 dashboard so currently with newton you can't horizon configure LB's
[13:51] <jamespage> works OK from the CLI tho
[13:51] <coreycb> jamespage, ok
[13:51] <coreycb> zul, sounds good
[13:52] <coreycb> jamespage, i'll see if we can get that into ocata
[13:53] <zul> coreycb:  nova might be blocked because python-os-xenapi is not in the archive yet and no archive admin has reviewed it
[14:11] <cpaelzer> jamespage: zul: coreycb: whatever it is worth todays retry on the weird container pid issue I reported worked fine
[14:12] <cpaelzer> still it was worth to write about it so people can find it in the chat log and such
[14:13] <zul> cpaelzer: the s390 thing?
[14:13] <cpaelzer> zul: yeah the container pid namespace assertion thing
[14:13] <cpaelzer> zul: had 1 ppc and 2 s390 hits - so not arch exclusive
[14:13] <zul> cpaelzer: ah ok
[14:14] <coreycb> cpaelzer, ok i'll let you know if we see it in the future
[14:47] <frickler> is it intentional that murano-dashboard for UCA newton is still at 2.0.0, while the rest of murano is at 3.0.0?
[14:47] <frickler> I also just found a nasty issue in it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/murano-dashboard/+bug/1659570
[14:55] <zul> coreycb: i got barbican
[15:15] <zul> coreycb: b3 needs a newer alembic
[17:00] <zul> coreycb: i got heat
[18:44] <bigtonicus> i need to send no-reply emails from my private subnet but the mail client needs to sent them to the smtp server securely any tutorials out there that can help me?
[18:45] <bigtonicus> so i need to send<EMAIL_ADDRESS>from a client on a private subnet to a server running the tls postfix server so the mail to the tls postfix server is secure
[18:58] <sarnold> bigtonicus: do you want a full-blown smtp service on the sending machine or do you just want a simple little tool? msmtp is a nice simple little thing
[19:08] <bigtonicus> it needs to send no-reply emails for a fqdn will msmtp do that?
[19:09] <bigtonicus> so I will be sending the email from a client but i need to configure the mta postfix server to send emails for the example.com domain
[19:16] <sarnold> sure just set the From: header to whatever you please
[19:26] <zul> coreycb: got glance
[19:29] <coreycb> zul, ok
[19:30] <coreycb> mwhahaha, i file a bug so we can track the designate issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1659638
[19:36] <mwhahaha> coreycb: ok
[20:32] <zul> coreycb: heat busted with newer ceilometerclient, proposing fix
[21:07]  * teward throws sticks at sarnold
[21:08] <sarnold> afternoon teward :)
[21:08] <teward> greetings to thee
[21:08] <teward> sarnold: mind if I bother you about SSL stuff?
[21:08] <teward> very basic question :p
[21:08] <sarnold> sure
[21:08] <teward> sarnold: i am about 100% certain of this, but there's no *sane* way to backport OpenSSL 1.0.2 to Trusty or such is there?
[21:08] <teward> Not without introducing major explosive breakages
[21:09] <sarnold> teward: nothing comes to mind for doing that 'easily'
[21:10] <sarnold> you certainly wouldn't want to just replace the system openssl with a newer package
[21:10] <sarnold> you could compile your own in /usr/local and use it for the things that need a newer openssl, but that seems like it's outside your usual range of intentions :)
[21:11] <teward> that's the assumption I made.  see https://bugs.launchpad.net/nginx/+bug/1658129 for why I asked :P
[21:11] <teward> sarnold: you're right, ^ that's what I was asking about
[21:11] <teward> and I'm not ready to open that can of worms.  Ever.
[21:12] <teward> I'd sooner volunteer to be hit by a taser than open that can of evil :P
[21:12] <sarnold> teward: this is something that a snap could handle. but I don't know how likely snaps are to work on trusty. we've sunk man-months into making that happen but not having systemd on trusty is a bit of a sticking point.
[21:12] <sarnold> maybe even man-years
[21:12] <teward> sarnold: well, I am pretty "No." in these terms
[21:13] <teward> basically the PPAs are under my direct thumb, if I say "Sorry, not happening" I win that fight.
[21:13] <sarnold> teward: for a ppa that's probably the right attitude to take :)
[21:13] <teward> true statement
[21:13] <teward> but i've seen stupid things like this for the nginx package over history too :P
[21:13] <teward> ended up having to tell people it is never happening
[21:14] <sarnold> I have a friend who is convinced half the secret to success in an open source business is knowing which requests deserve a "no" response
[21:14] <teward> that's about accurate heh
[21:14] <teward> brb coffee run
[21:15] <sarnold> as in you've got to know what it is you set out to build and why you're doing it. listen to people but be prepared to say "that's not why we're doing this" if their vision doesn't align with yours
[21:15] <sarnold> enjoy :D
[21:18] <teward> yup
[21:19] <teward> sarnold: i've done that for feature requests to add new modules to Ubuntu (but not Debian) in the past
[21:19] <teward> mostly because I don't want to make your guys lives' evil on the Security Team
[21:19] <teward> 'cause it'd need reviewed :P
[21:20] <sarnold> \o/ :D
[21:21] <sarnold> yeah my review backlog is guilty long..
[21:22] <teward> :P


[09:21] <jtv> cjwatson, jelmer: I've been trying to replace my broken branch and branch import, but I think I've only succeeded in making a new branch import for the same branch.  Doesn't help that I'm not the owner of the branch — it belongs to VCSImports.


[04:03] <user|10141> Any guides on how to setup Kubuntu 17 with OSX on USB flashdrive? I got Etcher app for usb.
[04:40] <jp82191> Hey all, i have a question. I
[04:41] <jp82191> Is it safe to run kubuntu as a daily driver OS?
[04:42] <jp82191> i don't really do much, just light word processing, some music and videos here and there. and pulling videos off my gopro
[06:13] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:02] <user|74222> hi lads
[07:03] <user|74222> Im running Kubuntu 17 and cant update , says "can not obtain lock" whaa..
[07:03] <user|74222> what should I do. its 32bit kubuntu
[07:08] <lordievader> There is probably an update running in the background.
[07:09] <eks> Good morning, I am using Ubuntu, should I prefer Kubuntu?
[07:10] <user|74222> 120 updates, nothing has changed for 2 hour, so what could be updating in the background
[07:10] <user|74222> I can browse , access internet,
[07:13] <lordievader> user|74222: Could you pastebin the output of 'ps aux|grep "dpkg\|apt"?
[07:13] <lordievader> eks: Depends on you.
[07:13] <user|74222> i have no idea how
[07:13] <user|74222> is that a terminal command?
[07:15] <lordievader> Yes
[07:17] <user|74222> I did, Im gona have to switch to linux for chat. sec.
[07:20] <user|74222> pastebin.com/MfxTNy12
[08:06] <lordievader> user|74222: You can kill that process and do the update again.
[09:50] <leobg-newbie> Everytime I boot my Kubuntu 17.04 laptop right after I log on I see a pop-up message that "akonadi_control closed unexpectedly". When I then click on the "Restart Application" button KMail and KOrganizer are working fine again. There is a message at the bottom of the pop-up window (Executable: akonadi_control PID: 1534 Signal: Aborted (6) Time: 15/06/2017 09:01:20). What possible cause could there be?
[10:10] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:38] <blablubla> i killed plasma update , but still same problem "can not obtain lock" so I cant update the system.
[12:39] <lordievader> blablubla: That usually means apt or dpkg is still running in the background.
[12:42] <acheronuk> blablubla: what is the output of 'sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock' ?
[13:37] <blablubla> Says "you don't ahve permission to kill the process...there was a problem running as root...Error 8 DBus Backend error: service start org.kde.ksysguard.proccesslisthelper failed: cannont launch daemon
[13:47] <lordievader> blablubla: Kill the process with root (sudo kill ..) then run the update process again.
[14:35] <blablubla> I killed update-apt xapi PID  , same problem, can not unlock.
[14:35] <blablubla> update
[14:37] <hateball> !fixapt | blablubla
[14:45] <blablubla> this workd, tyvm
[14:45] <blablubla> worked
[15:13] <[Relic]> is it possible that a very new vid card would in fact screw something up in an iso so bad that it would corrupt the sqaushfs files, (like indexing too high a number and throwing the whole thing off whack)?
[15:22] <lordievader> That sound very unlikely, if even possible.
[15:25] <[Relic]> something fundmentally flawed with 14.04 that would break every dd iso to usb?
[15:27] <[Relic]> since I reinstalled 14.04 after getting the 1050ti card, the only thing I changed was the cpu cooler and yet every attempt to get a working 17.04 from a properly md5 checksumed iso has failed
[15:31] <BluesKaj> [Relic], maybe if you quoted the actual errors ratrher than just describing what you think is wrong would help
[15:33] <[Relic]> kernel panic and stops the system
[15:36] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, http://i.imgur.com/jNr4rxS.jpg
[15:40] <[Relic]> the cpu pid changes from boot to boot but that is still the result of it
[15:41] <BluesKaj> don't see any kernel panic
[15:43] <[Relic]> RIP:0010:panic+0x1ed/0x22d  5thy line up, not good with camera vs monitor and since I don't have a way to log or get info that I can find when it is in text mode not sure what else to do
[15:45] <[Relic]> does the <IRQ> bunch of stuff like that </IRQ>, then panic, do exit, sys exit
[15:45] <BluesKaj> [Relic], yesterday you said you were going ad some extras to the usb, what did you mean by that?
[15:45] <BluesKaj> going to add
[15:47] <haido> cinnamon is better :o
[15:47] <[Relic]> no clue I have tried 3 usb sticks and so far I have tried fat 32 and fat 32 LBA to make sure the cmos was getting it properly even tried a smaller partition same results
[15:49] <BluesKaj> haido, this kubuntu support , do you have a question? , if not please refrain from unsolicited unecessary comments
[15:52] <haido> BluesKaj: ok ok testing kubuntu here \o
[15:57] <blablablu> how to reinstall from USB? my bios doesn't have boot from USB.  Im running Kubuntu 17 right now.
[15:58] <blablablu> I used plop on windiws but , no more windows now, its running Linux..
[16:09] <BluesKaj> blablablu, use plop to install linux as well
[16:10] <BluesKaj> from usb
[16:12] <blablablu> didnt realize plop has linux version..
[16:12] <blablablu> need to install lubuntu. my machine too slow for kubuntu. unusable
[16:13] <blablablu> going to try plop
[16:13] <BluesKaj> plop isn't linux afaik it's just a bootloader
[16:13] <blablablu> yea, i knew. ty
[16:14] <BluesKaj> right
[16:14] <blablablu> my bios has no usb boot so im forced to use plop
[16:14] <BluesKaj> yes, I'm trhe same , but I cn still use a a cd or dvd on my old pc
[16:14] <BluesKaj> can
[16:15] <blablablu> on windiws you just run .bot , no need to burn on cd. not sure onlinux.
[16:16] <BluesKaj> I run kubuntu with no problem on this 2008 vintage pc
[16:16] <blablablu> mine is 1.6ghz celeron 2gb ram
[16:17] <blablablu> 2005
[16:17] <BluesKaj> expanded to 6Gig Ram helps and an entry level Feforce210 nvidia gpu helps too
[16:17] <BluesKaj> geforce
[16:18] <BluesKaj> double your RAM and you'll be fine
[16:19] <BluesKaj> just don't run too manty apps at one time
[16:42] <[Relic]> BluesKaj, I am thinking it is the kernel with the ryzen board irq problems is in 17.04 iso, going to try 16.04.1 next since 14.04.3 loads just fine
[20:58] <Guest23823> here?
[23:13] <tsimonq2> o/