[02:20] <cmaloney> WEll, Madison Heights is having their fireworks a few blocks away
[02:21] <cmaloney> and Pixel has disappeared under the bed.
[03:12] <greg-g> cmaloney: re tinderbox, yeah, crazy huh?
[03:17] <cmaloney>  It's just unreal to think that CI wasn't around prior
[03:18] <cmaloney> and unreal that it lasted so long since.
[03:18] <cmaloney> (that Tinderbox lasted as long)
[03:18] <cmaloney> Mind == blown.
[03:47] <greg-g> yeah
[10:42] <cmaloney> Good morning
[10:43] <rick_h_> morning
[11:56] <jrwren> morning
[11:57] <rick_h_> morning
[12:03] <cmaloney> morning
[13:13] <cmaloney> http://googleappsupdates.blogspot.de/2014/06/removal-of-quickoffice-from-google-play.html
[13:13] <cmaloney> About time.
[13:13] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/rI3zEv - Google Apps update alerts: Removal of Quickoffice from Google Play and App Store
[14:45] <rick_h_> wow, you thought the last SCOTUS thing made twitter angry, today is going to be a crap storm
[14:45] <jrwren> ut oh.
[14:45] <jrwren> i'll avoid reading for a while
[15:00] <cmaloney> Ho boy Lo Boy.
[15:10] <greg-g> cmaloney: welcome back to twitter! ;)
[15:10] <cmaloney> Fortunately I'm not following the same number of folks I was
[15:11] <cmaloney> Decided to only follow those folks that are following me
[15:11] <cmaloney> with a few exceptions
[15:16]  * greg-g nods
[15:35] <brousch> rick_h_: How is the new computer?
[15:35] <rick_h_> brousch: goods and bads
[15:35] <cmaloney> Goods?
[15:35] <rick_h_> brousch: still determining, spent some time trying to do some tweaks this weekend
[15:36] <rick_h_> :)
[15:36] <rick_h_> the goods are the screen, the size is both bigger/heavier than i expected, but nice and slim. Keyboard is better than I expected
[15:36] <rick_h_> it's pretty fast, battery seems to have some good life to it
[15:37] <rick_h_> the touchpad though...man I hate touchpads
[15:37] <cmaloney> heh
[15:37] <rick_h_> and the fuzzy/soft material on the palm rest I'm going to wear right out. that's a stupid thing to do
[15:37] <rick_h_> and opening it up is a bit of a pita/game.
[15:37] <brousch> No nipple?
[15:38] <rick_h_> no, only lenovo can do proper 3 button trackpoints due to patent stuff
[15:38] <cmaloney> I have just the thing for your touch pad: http://ur1.ca/hn2he
[15:38] <brousch> My old dells had nipples
[15:38] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/oCkowS - Amazon.com: Logitech Wireless Mouse M305 (Pink Balance): Electronics
[15:38] <rick_h_> brousch: yea, but only two buttons
[15:38] <rick_h_> brousch: but yea no trackpoints on here
[15:39] <rick_h_> cmaloney: heh, yea I do have an external mouse. http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-ZJA-00001-Arc-Mouse-Black/dp/B001C4ETU0/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1404142754&sr=1-2&keywords=microsoft+arc+mouse is the best
[15:39] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/p4Hyn7 - Amazon.com: Microsoft Arc Mouse - Black: Electronics
[15:39] <brousch> Why did cmaloney send you to the pink mouse?
[15:39] <rick_h_> but then you're keyboard/off/keyboard/off
[15:39] <cmaloney> rick_h_: Yeah, but my hands are allergic to that mouse
[15:40] <rick_h_> if anything this run in with this touchpad might just finally get me to vim-ize my browser after all
[15:40] <rick_h_> if it wasn't for that browser I'd never need a touchpad anyway
[15:40] <cmaloney> brousch: To do with the laptop bag. :)
[15:40] <cmaloney> s/do/go/
[15:42] <cmaloney> http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-trackball-m570
[15:42] <bookiebot> http://goo.gl/c7ACY - M570 Wireless Trackball - Logitech
[15:42] <cmaloney> rick_h_: You have one of those right?
[15:42] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yep, using it now
[15:42] <cmaloney> Time to get one for the laptop. ;)
[15:43] <rick_h_> heh, big for travel
[15:43] <rick_h_> that's the thing, using a mouse is fail at CHC and such
[15:43] <cmaloney> Yeah, unfortunately.
[15:44] <brousch> Why?
[15:45] <cmaloney> rick_h_: You could use the mouse emulation with the number pad keys.
[15:46] <cmaloney> That sounds entertaining. ;)
[15:47] <cmaloney> rick_h_: is it touch-enabled?
[15:49] <rick_h_> cmaloney: yea, but this screen will never be touched
[15:49] <brousch> touch it!
[15:49] <rick_h_> nevar!
[16:16] <greg-g> Google's shutting down Orkut finally
[16:17] <rick_h_> who-da-what? :)
[16:17] <rick_h_> yay 2hr management training
[16:17] <rick_h_> these convince me I never want to go back to school again
[16:17] <jrwren> really? i thought orkut was still huge in brazil
[16:17] <greg-g> jrwren: it is
[16:17] <jrwren> like facebook huge.
[16:17] <greg-g> yeah
[16:18] <rick_h_> not sure it can be, not 1B people in brazil
[16:18] <rick_h_> 198M people, wonder what % use it
[16:19] <greg-g> rick_h_: just, like, as big as FB popularity wise, like, percentage
[16:20] <rick_h_> greg-g: gotcha
[16:21] <greg-g> like like (I was interrupted by people talking to me in person, that's my excuse for sounding like I'm from California)
[16:21] <rick_h_> so 73% of internet users is FB (one study) and 81% of population on the net
[16:21] <greg-g> wow
[16:22] <rick_h_> hmm, brazil only 49% of people on the net per wikipedia
[16:22]  * greg-g nods
[16:22] <rick_h_> so of that 198M, only 99M on the internet, so then 70% is is around 70M people on orkut?
[16:22] <greg-g> how many people in Brazil?
[16:22] <rick_h_> for brazil ish
[16:22]  * greg-g nods
[16:23] <rick_h_> still, I'd love to have a service with 70M people on it :/
[16:23] <rick_h_> sad that something like that is closed
[16:23] <greg-g> honestly, we're hoping to see a spike in Portuguese Wikipedia usage
[18:50] <cmaloney> Afternoon and all that.
[18:50] <greg-g> almost
[18:51] <cmaloney> Well, it's afternoon here on God's time. :)
[18:51] <cmaloney> And evening on God's Mean Time
[18:51] <cmaloney> GMT


[02:16] <ubotu> New bug: #123326 in mesa (main) "glxinfo crashed with SIGSEGV in viaXMesaWindowMoved()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123326
[05:56] <ubotu> New bug: #123341 in xorg (main) "Xorg fails to start on Core2 Duo 20" iMac" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/123341


[00:25] <guiverc> who writes the Ubuntu Studio Dev News?  (uwn)
[00:26] <wxl> probably ErichEickmeyer guiverc
[00:27] <krytarik> Yep.
[00:28] <guiverc> thanks wxl, it fits perfectly as a comment left had Erich reply.. thanks.
[00:46] <krytarik> Wild_Man: Good job at copying the "Subject:" into the.. subject. :D
[00:48] <krytarik> Eh, and it's also double spaced again for some reason.
[00:51] <Wild_Man> krytarik, I tried to copy something to post here and it posted the last thing I had copied into the gdoc
[00:52] <Wild_Man> Will the undo button fix that?
[00:54] <Wild_Man> If what I accidentally pasted did not replace something , which I do not think it did I can simply remove it
[00:55] <krytarik> Yes, undo should work.
[00:57] <Wild_Man> krytarik, is does nothing from my computer
[00:58] <krytarik> Well, if you reloaded the document since, it won't work indeed.
[00:59] <Wild_Man> does it look like it replaced anything?
[01:00] <krytarik> Yeah, just scrolled through the "new changes" - but merely the title of the post, I'll fix it.
[01:00] <Wild_Man> that is what I just saw as well
[01:02] <Wild_Man> I was trying to copy that title to ask you if that is what you were referring to when you said " Good job at copying the "Subject:" into the.. subject." I did not copy it, I wrote it myself but to me there is not much I can say to sum up that link
[01:03] <krytarik> I was referring with both to the Call for Summaries you've just sent.
[01:05] <Wild_Man> You know I triple checked that before I sent it and still did not see that
[17:22] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::Planet:: Sina Mashek: Check if external ip hasÂ changed @ https://sinacutie.stream/blog/snippet/check-external-ip-linux
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[18:29] <krytarik> pleia2, tsimonq2: As an advance notice, I've just poked knome again to fix the remaining issues with the Ubuntu community WordPress theme he maintains (https://github.com/knomepasi/ubuntu-community-wordpress-theme), and once that's done I'm going to suggest using this as the new theme on the Fridge, which then any of the admins on the related LP team would need to file a ticket with IS for - ...
[18:30] <krytarik> ... and I'd combine this with a request to at least mirror the admin status of those to the WP user roles, so we can update the used widgets.
[18:31] <tsimonq2> ACK.


 :) (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <Maik> @rs2009 oh wait... i think i get the picture now. :))
 Hello folks
 hey
 and now i am on Ubuntu 21.00
 Forwarded from unknown: Hi everyone, an update has been pushed to all computers running Ubuntu Web, bringing the popular libre software app repository/store F-Droid to Anbox in Ubuntu Web. You can install the update from the Software Updater. We are currently working on bringing /e/ Apps to Anbox as well. :
 You mean 21.04? (re @bittin1: and now i am on Ubuntu 21.00)
 nope thats not out yet (re @troyBORG: You mean 21.04?)
 Oh, your saying it as ##.00 as it's before the ##.04 of release.
 yeah thats the current release number of the Alpha


[00:25] <rick_h_> snap-l: dude!!!!
[00:26] <Painbank> is it me or is it that Dojo is just a pain in the ass to use/extend?
[00:27] <rick_h_> heh, I've not used dojo in many a year...but that's my experience
[00:27] <rick_h_> YUI FTW!
[00:28] <Painbank> ya, I see your using it with bookie
[00:31] <rick_h_> because it's awesome
[00:44] <rick_h_> shakes808: python -m SimpleHTTPServer
[10:39] <snap-l> Good morning
[11:20] <rick_h_> morning
[12:04] <brousch> morn
[12:16] <rick_h_> ugh, sleepy. why can't we go back to bed?
[12:17] <brousch> Because it's morning!
[12:18] <brousch> Do I have to sing the good morning song to you, sleepyhead?
[12:18] <rick_h_> double ugh
[12:18] <rick_h_> snap-l: I see your old alcatel pals in the news today
[12:57] <snap-l> rick_h_: Which, the patent portfolio for 4G?
[12:57] <rick_h_> snap-l: the open source api thing
[12:58] <rick_h_> on techcrunch this morning
[12:58] <snap-l> orly?
[12:59] <rick_h_> http://goo.gl/HpfxF
[13:21] <jrwren> i think i was still in bed when rick_h_ asked that. or maybe i was just getting out of bed.
[13:21] <jrwren> :p
[13:21] <rick_h_> jrwren: huh?
[13:21] <rick_h_> oh, about going back to bed heh
[13:21] <jrwren> :)
[13:22] <jrwren> i think I bought LU at 50 in 1999, alcatel-lucent can diaf
[13:45] <rick_h_> ouch
[15:16] <snap-l> jrwren: Yeah, it's not the most performant stock out there.
[15:16] <snap-l> They're still trying to figure out the merger
[15:44] <rick_h_> laptops with a number pad? wtf https://plus.google.com/u/0/104919222657565747428/posts/VSRYxb2ohGD
[15:45] <snap-l> rick_h_: JoDee's last two laptops had numeric keypads.
[15:45] <brousch> Some people love a full keyboard
[15:46] <brousch> Our CPA brings a USB number pad with him when he is here
[15:46] <snap-l> SHe crunches numbers.
[15:46] <rick_h_> I don't even want it on my desktop...much less a freaking mass produced laptop
[15:46] <rick_h_> yea, that's why they make usb number pads, for CPA's
[15:46] <rick_h_> not build into the thing
[15:55] <snap-l> Some folks want 'em
[15:56] <snap-l> Just like some folks want keyboards that sound like a firing range. ;)
[15:56] <rick_h_> what? can't hear over. Headphones on today :P
[16:12] <jrwren> i used to punch a 10key reasonably well, but i've not done so i na long time.
[16:19] <rick_h_> snap-l: first cards against humanity game scheduled woo! Thanks
[16:22] <snap-l> Hey, no problem. :)
[17:26] <rick_h_> http://bukk.it/acid.jpg <3
[17:35] <rick_h_> http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/09/06/shit-apple-fanatics-say/ I should have done this video
[17:36] <UnFixed> gestures.
[17:51] <jcastro> smoser: mramm is stopping in plymouth so we can review each other's slides for stuff we're working on
[17:51] <jcastro> if you feel the need to collaborate
[17:53] <smoser> jcastro, time / place?
[17:53] <jcastro> this afternoon, he's leaving AA in about 15 I think
[17:53] <jcastro> place, whatever?
[17:53] <jcastro> is there a cool place around here with wifis?
[17:55] <snap-l> Libery St Brewing. ;)
[17:58] <rick_h_> everyone ready for kindle day?
[17:58] <rick_h_> dare I hope for a DX upgrade?
[17:58] <snap-l> KinDay.
[18:00] <rick_h_> ooh, think I'll get this paperwhite one for the wife. Boo that it won't ship until after her birthday
[18:00] <brousch> They still make those non-color things?
[18:01] <rick_h_> she can ditch that annoying light on hers
[18:01] <snap-l> SIte isn't updated
[18:01] <rick_h_> yea, hitting refresh
[18:01] <rick_h_> guess they'll do it after they finish the presentation
[18:02] <snap-l> You'd think they'd pull an Apple and put some "Coming Soon" nonsense there.
[18:05] <brousch> Ug, this is awful https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Nj628ufciSc
[18:22] <brousch> Looks like a good talk by chrismcdonough about how awesome Django is http://plope.com/static/presentations/djangocon2012/
[18:27] <rick_h_> OMG OMG OMG Whispersync for voice is introduced
[18:27] <brousch> voice?
[18:28] <rick_h_> yea, finally sync for audible books it looks like
[18:28] <rick_h_> if I listen on my phone, tablet, etc
[18:29] <brousch> ah
[19:09] <snap-l> Oh, nice
[19:22] <rick_h_> another AMZ announcement, no more DX love. e-ink is 6" or bust
[19:26] <rick_h_> ooh, even cooler than sync'ing audiobooks is going from audio to reading and back http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/06/amazon-audio-whispersync/
[19:35] <brousch> Everytime I see "Paperwhite" I read "Paperweight"
[19:37] <derekv> aaaannnnnddd  not explicitly setting character encoding anywhere in entire cluster of web apps & backends =/
[19:38] <derekv> often i wonder about the idea of not doing work that isn't needed to fufill a user story
[19:40] <rick_h_> explicit ftw
[19:41] <brousch> Well it's better than implicit
[19:42] <derekv> sometimes this is constructive, sometimes not "We should probably do X... but it works without doing X? ok lets not do X right now"
[19:44] <derekv> lazyness to prevent premature generalization
[19:44] <derekv> like, a powerful idea
[19:44] <rick_h_> yea, sometimes you know things are worth doing off the bat because experience has tought you..pay now or pay more later
[19:44] <derekv> powerfull like napalm
[19:59] <derekv> its not like you make a user story like " application should continue to work after dec 31 "
[20:06] <rick_h_> oh man...*droooollll* over some of those rooms http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/2012/09/the-sevenbedroom-vandusen-mansion-asks-750-k.php
[20:22] <derekv> AS A developer I NEED TO write code without thinking about business value SO THAT I CAN not hate my job
[20:22] <derekv> decomposed :
[20:22] <rick_h_> <3 it https://bmark.us/goodbyedelicious/recent
[20:23] <derekv> AS A developer I NEED TO win the lottory SO THAT
[20:23] <rick_h_> lol
[20:24] <derekv> whose that?
[20:24] <rick_h_> some new user today
[20:24] <rick_h_> with a username I <3
[20:24] <derekv> =]
[20:27] <rick_h_> and another 'haha!' for bookie https://twitter.com/Pinboard/status/243806435417411584
[22:12] <wolfger> o/
[22:13] <wolfger> any CM7 freaks on here?
[22:14] <rick_h_> krondor usually
[22:14] <rick_h_> but think it's more CM9/etc
[22:14] <rick_h_> unless your CM7 !+ Cyanogenmod
[22:15] <wolfger> Yes, that is my CM7
[22:15] <wolfger> no krondor atm
[22:15] <wolfger> was brousch in cm?
[22:24] <rick_h_> not sure, I think he might have on his nook tablet
[22:50] <brousch> I have CM7 on my Nook color and old Droid 1
[23:21] <derekv> add bookmark via intent works
[23:25] <brousch> derekv: do you have the code up somewhere?
[23:25] <brousch> or an apk?
[23:32] <derekv> on github as androidbookie
[23:33] <derekv> under derekv
[23:34] <derekv> google gives ricks fork, maybe out of date :
[23:34] <derekv> it seems
[23:34] <derekv> i can provide an apk later tonight if its handy for anyone
[23:36] <brousch> saves some eclipse work for those of us who don't compile apks much
[23:36] <derekv> yea
[23:37] <brousch> I just started running a 6 hour long test of a mediawiki importer for localwiki
[23:37] <snap-l> Evening
[23:38] <snap-l> reminder: This Sunday is the GLobal Jam
[23:38] <derekv> itd be nice to convert to maven, do some sort of automatic builder
[23:38] <derekv> doesnt make sence to call it ci if im not writing tests
[23:39] <derekv> but i can make it work using branches
[23:39] <brousch> tests are for the weak!
[23:41] <derekv> i can appriciate tdd in a business context.  outside of that, i respect people who preffer it but
[23:41] <derekv> no dogma
[23:41] <derekv> tests are good
[23:42] <derekv> im skipping them for now
[23:43] <derekv> im doing it at work. it has its benefits, some trade offs, some limitations.  i wouldnt change it at work, probably most places could benefit from tdd
[23:43] <derekv> thats my 2c
[23:45] <derekv> im using connectbot any other good android ssh clients?
[23:54] <rick_h_> snap-l: can't make jam this weekend :(
[23:55] <derekv> awesome, already using my app


[05:35] <ColonelPanic001> fwiw, I went to "Ninjas, Brogrammers and Sparkly Code Princesses"
[05:35] <ColonelPanic001> if anyone was curious
[05:36] <ColonelPanic001> I mean, about the panel, not whether or not I went.
[11:45] <rick_h_> ColonelPanic001: any good?
[13:55] <snap-l> howwasthetalk?
[14:06] <tony-smlr> SMLR is Live at Penguicon!  Video: http://www.youtube.com/embed/y7zsgiH8Cl8 , Audio http://live.smlr.us:8000/streaming
[14:07] <tony-smlr> We are also on #smlr
[14:56] <jrwren> ColonelPanic001: summarize in 1 sentence plz :)
[16:09] <ColonelPanic001> it was okay
[16:11] <ColonelPanic001> nothign groundbreaking or anything, but interesting enough to go to
[19:22] <snap-l> That's cool
[21:16] <ColonelPanic001> yeah, pretty much what it said on the box, so to speak. Talking a bit about company culture and things like "brogrammers" and "rockstar" and "ninja"  in job ads - whether it's a real miscommunication, an HR drone not knowing what they're talking about, etc.
[21:26] <snap-l> I think it's places trying to seem more cool than they are
[21:44] <ColonelPanic001> that's usually my assumption. Puts me off though.
[21:45] <ColonelPanic001> just ugh.
[23:07] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: I think if they want rockstars, you should ask them to honor your rider.
[23:07] <snap-l> Then put something in there about no brown M&Ms.
[23:23] <ColonelPanic001> perfect
[23:23] <ColonelPanic001> I should work on that, send it to my boss. He might be amused
[23:24] <ColonelPanic001> "In light of developers in other areas being considered 'Rockstars' now, I believe I deserve the same respect. Here are a list of requirements:


[02:08] <Riddell> wgrant: do launchpad receipies work with git now? will I need to do a launchpad import of the git repository?
[02:10] <wgrant> Riddell: Recipes are currently implemented by bzr-builder, a bzr plugin. So they need a complete rewrite for git, which we haven't done yet.
[02:10] <wgrant> It will be at least a few months until recipes are reborn with git support.
[02:10] <Riddell> mm right thanks
[02:11] <wgrant> Depending on the repo, it may be possible to use LP's existing git->bzr import facility to use a git repo in a recipe.
[06:37] <Riddell> hooray, good to go at last http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ninjas-status/build_status_15.04.2_wily.html
[06:39] <valorie> impressive, Riddell
[06:40] <valorie> I've forgotten -- what are the orange ones?
[06:40] <santa_> congrats, let me know when you are done uploading to wily so I can test the dist-upgrade again
[06:41] <santa_> don't forget those frameworks with issues in breaks/replaces :)
[12:53] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:38] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Hi clivejo
[13:40] <BluesKaj> been having some plsama 5.3.1 crashes, mostly when trying to close an app
[13:40] <BluesKaj> er plasma
[13:40] <clivejo> which apps?
[13:42]  * soee havn't seen plasma crash for a while now
[13:42] <BluesKaj> qbittorrent for one, even konversation
[13:42] <BluesKaj> on 15.10 soee
[13:44] <BluesKaj> mostly when closing from the system tray
[13:44] <clivejo> only konsole crashes on close for me in wily
[13:44] <soee> ah ok
[13:44] <soee> im on Vivid
[13:45] <clivejo> but then I dont use qbittorrent or konversation
[13:45] <BluesKaj> I prefer qbittorrent to ktorrent, it's more configurable
[13:46] <soee> BluesKaj: Riddel finished 15.04.2 apps  i think maybe you want to try them
[13:46] <soee> https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next-stage2/+packages
[13:51] <BluesKaj> ok soee thanks, I'll reset my sources.list
[13:52] <BluesKaj> oooh, 154 packages can be upgraded
[13:53] <soee> :)
[13:54] <clivejo> has next stage 2 been moved to main archive yet?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> doesn't look like it clivejo, stage 2 packages are still in the ppa
[13:56] <clivejo> he was talking about deleting it last night
[13:59] <BluesKaj> I keep the staging ppa commented in the sources.list until new or upgradeable packages become available ...easier than having to re-add it from launch pad
[14:01] <clivejo> how do you flip back to main archive packages?
[14:02] <clivejo> ppa purge?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> they're always there, but I just comment the deb line in the sources.list with a # so the ppa doesn't get read , once the official release is out II dele te them from the sources.list and the .d
[14:20] <BluesKaj> upgrading the packages went smoothly
[14:36] <clivejo> BluesKaj: is next stage 2 ppa enable on your wily system?
[14:39] <clivejo> I have 153Mb of updated packages from that archive
[14:39] <BluesKaj> I enabled it after soee posted the upgrade about 15.04.2 apps, which also apply to 15.10, clivejo
[14:39] <clivejo> wondering should I install those?
[14:40] <clivejo> right, Ill give it a try :/
[14:40] <BluesKaj> clivejo, that's why I'm here, to test the newly upgraded packages
[14:42] <clivejo> yeah, just wondering why Riddell mentioned his intention to delete that PPA
[14:44] <BluesKaj> well if he deletes it and replaces it with a different one then I'll just use that
[14:45] <clivejo> do you use kontact?
[14:48] <clivejo> I notice it pulling in a lot of kontact stuff
[14:50] <BluesKaj> no I remove kmail and kontact since I don't need them
[14:52] <EvilRoey> hi all! question... now that rebootless kernel swapping is mainlined in the kernel, how long until we can upgrade Kubuntu releases without having to reboot?
[14:54] <clivejo> 3 days
[14:55] <clivejo> BluesKaj: who is working on these KDE apps?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> clivejo, Riddell is
[14:57] <BluesKaj> afaik
[14:57] <EvilRoey> clivejo:  my client needs it in 2 tho
[14:57] <EvilRoey> clivejo:  more seriously, I was wondering if this is a working goal of Kubuntu
[14:58] <clivejo> EvilRoey: probably better to ask in a Ubuntu dev channel
[15:01] <EvilRoey> ah, thanks, will do!
[15:01] <clivejo> Kubuntu _usually_ go with what Ubuntu are using
[15:03] <EvilRoey> aye.
[15:04] <clivejo> with the goal to have KDE desktop
[15:07] <EvilRoey> So how did Kubuntu weather the systemd fiasco
[15:07] <EvilRoey> it's now using systemd as well, ok.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> is there a method to map the middle click to closing apps in the panel ?
[15:14]  * EvilRoey doesn't knwo
[15:14] <EvilRoey> know*
[15:50] <Quintasan> wow this LTE HWE is total shit.
[15:56] <kfunk> HWwhat?
[16:14] <Quintasan> kfunk: Hardware Enablement Stakc
[16:14] <Quintasan> Stack*
[16:52] <ejat> any ppa available for kde 15.04.2 ?
[16:52] <ejat> or packaging in progress ?
[16:59] <Riddell> ejat: yep, want to test?
[16:59] <Riddell> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/next-stage2
[16:59] <ejat> Riddell: yups sure .. thank
[17:00] <ejat> btw ... how r ya Riddell?
[17:00] <Riddell> mostly awesome
[17:00] <Riddell> clivejo: did you get anywhere?
[17:02] <ejat> Riddell: good to hear that ... im upgrading now ..
[17:08] <Riddell> ejat: you're on wily?
[17:08] <ejat> nope ..
[17:08] <ejat> ouch .. vivid .. is it ok ?
[17:08] <ejat> is it require wily?
[17:08] <Riddell> for that archive you do
[17:09] <ejat> ouch .. no wonder i just got 108 package ..
[17:09] <Riddell> vivid may work, it's 15.04.1
[17:11] <ejat> no backport to vivid ? or in progress ?
[17:12] <Riddell> it's out http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-applications-15041-available-kubuntu-1504
[17:13] <ejat> i already on 15.04.1
[17:13] <ejat> before adding the next-stage2
[17:13] <Riddell> so remove next-stage2 for vivid then, that'll just break stuff
[17:22] <ejat> ok ..
[17:23] <clivejo> hi Riddell
[17:23] <clivejo> sorry was sawing
[17:29] <BluesKaj> Riddell, the next-stage2 upgraded just fine on 15.10
[17:30] <clivejo> same here
[17:31] <clivejo> BluesKaj: how does the version numbering work?
[17:31] <clivejo> Kontact says its 4.14.9
[17:34] <BluesKaj> kontact is still runninig in plasma 4, but the 4.14.9 version numbering is a mystery to me...never asked about it :-)
[17:40] <Riddell> BluesKaj, clivejo: great, thanks for testing, I'll upload to wily
[17:41] <Riddell> clivejo: some bits still use the old kde sc versions, kdepim and kdelibs notably
[17:42] <BluesKaj> ok, bbl ..the lawnmower is getting impatient
[17:42] <clivejo> Riddell: did you take a look at purpose?
[17:48] <Riddell> clivejo: nope, where is it?
[17:48]  * Riddell is pretty busy today
[17:48] <clivejo> on my ppa7
[17:48] <clivejo> and those missing files are in the package
[17:50] <Riddell> clivejo: which package?
[17:50] <clivejo> purpose
[19:05] <ejat> Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11677903/
[19:05] <ejat> :(
[19:05] <Riddell> hmm, that should have a replaces
[19:05] <Riddell> dpkg --install --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/fonts-oxygen_4%3a5.3.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[19:13] <soee> hiho
[19:14] <soee> what about KF 5.10  and apps 15.04.2 for Vivid ? :)
[19:21] <ejat> brb restart
[19:29] <ejat> :)
[19:38] <ovidiu-florin> jose: ping
[19:40] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: can I update http://www.kubuntu.org/contact-us to look like http://kubwp.kubuntu.co.uk/contact-us/ (I mean add my contact details) ?
[19:40] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: yes of course
[19:44] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: I wanted to change my email signature from "Kubuntu România" to "Kubuntu România Representative" and point it to  the kubuntu.org website
[19:44] <ovidiu-florin> is that ok?
[19:49] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: Added, I've also uppercased your last name
[19:56] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: is there a reason why wordpress looks like it is double spacing everything?
[19:56] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: what are you reffering to?
[19:57] <ahoneybun> the post writing
[19:57] <ahoneybun> *writting
[19:57] <ahoneybun> first one was right
[19:58] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/Wbo97lT
[19:59] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: I still don't understand
[20:00] <ahoneybun> it looks like everything is double spaced
[20:00] <ahoneybun> the space between the lines
[20:02] <ovidiu-florin> It doesn't seem so to   me
[20:03] <ahoneybun> oh?
[20:03] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: sure
[20:03] <Etriaph> ahoneybun: The line-spacing is set to heigh
[20:04] <Etriaph> s/heigh/high
[20:04] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: why did you uppercase my last name?
[20:04] <Etriaph> That's in the RTE, probably won't be the actual display.
[20:04] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: AFAIK that's an european standard
[20:06] <ahoneybun> where is the setting for that Etriaph?
[20:06] <Etriaph> ahoneybun: I'd have to know which RTE is being used, is it WordPress stock, or 3rd party?
[20:07] <Etriaph> ahoneybun: I don't think you could adjust it from the interface, it's a CSS shipped with the RTE most likely.
[20:07] <ahoneybun> RTE?
[20:07] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: never heard of it
[20:07] <ahoneybun> I'm using stock
[20:07] <Etriaph> ahoneybun: Rich Text Editor
[20:07] <ahoneybun> ok
[20:08] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: want me to change it back?
[20:08] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: yeah I think so
[20:08] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[20:08] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: reverted
[20:08] <Riddell> thanks
[20:09] <Etriaph> ahoneybun: I'd have to look at the install to know for sure.  It won't appear on the site like *that* though.
[20:09] <ahoneybun> Etriaph: you mean self hosted?
[20:10] <Etriaph> ahoneybun: Well, the code for WordPress will tell me what you're using, is this your own install, what copy of WP is that on?
[20:10] <ahoneybun> Im just on the site
[20:10] <Etriaph> kubwp?
[20:11] <ahoneybun> no no
[20:11] <ahoneybun> my own thing
[20:12] <Etriaph> Is it hosted somewhere, or running on a server you setup?
[20:13] <Etriaph> ahoneybun: When you make a post does it appear double-spaced?
[20:14] <ahoneybun> https://athoneycutt.wordpress.com/
[20:14] <ahoneybun> does not look to bad
[20:15] <Etriaph> There's a CSS setting called line-spacing, and that's what you're seeing.
[20:16] <Etriaph> I'm not sure how to adjust it if you're hosted there.
[20:16] <Etriaph> You kinda get what WP in their wisdom deems to provide.
[20:17] <ahoneybun> thanks anyway
[20:17] <ahoneybun> Etriaph:
[20:17] <Etriaph> You might be able to tweak some CSS settings in Appearance
[20:17] <Etriaph> I think you might be able to do a bit more than change the theme.
[20:17] <Etriaph> ahoneybun: np, wish I could help more :D
[20:17] <ahoneybun> its all good
[20:30] <ahoneybun> damn how do you add channels for konversion to autojoin?
[20:32] <Etriaph> In Identities.
[20:32] <Etriaph> Or no, network.
[20:33] <ahoneybun> network?
[20:33] <Etriaph> F2
[20:33] <Etriaph> Server List
[20:33] <Etriaph> Freenode is in there, click on Edit
[20:33] <Etriaph> Add channels to list
[20:34] <ahoneybun> thanks Etriaph
[20:34] <Etriaph> np
[20:35]  * ahoneybun trys to run C&C on Kubuntu
[20:35] <ahoneybun> I might need wine lol
[20:35] <Etriaph> That'd help :D
[20:35] <Etriaph> Any games I play run through Steam.
[20:37]  * ahoneybun quietly move Etriaph over to #kubuntu-offtopic
[20:38] <santa_> Riddell: just in case you are interested: I finally made a tool to generate build dependency graphs inspecting the control files, so I have updated stuff here: https://gitlab.com/siduction-tools/pkg-kde-graphs/tree/master
[20:39] <santa_> some graphs are more interesting than others, but hey, generating them with the program is free
[23:09] <Riddell_> sitter: https://paste.kde.org/pvmvxsdex where do you think all these files should go for clivejo's purpose package?
[23:11] <sitter> Riddell_: don't we have purpose packaged already?
[23:12] <sitter> in fact, purpose shouldn't get packaged since nothing about it is final from what I understand
[23:16] <Riddell_> clivejo: ok so it's not final so perfection isn't needed I guess, time to move onto kamoso
[23:18] <clivejo> Ive got it to compile on my own machine, but wont build on LP
[23:23] <Riddell_> clivejo: which?


[07:06] <lukesoft> Hi Guys, Really trying to get going with contributing to ubuntu......but iam getting some bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu/tomboy/".
[07:06] <lukesoft> can you pliz point me in the right direction, i believe i set up my dev env correcly
[08:46] <Rhonda> Hmm.  If I update the trusty-backports package of wesnoth-1.12 with a version from xenial, I will have to also propose a backport for vivid and wily, right?
[09:24] <lukemadzedze> guys which languages are used mostly if i want to contribute to ubuntu-motu
[09:24] <lukemadzedze> programming languages
[09:32] <Laney> lukemadzedze: any, it depends on what the program is written in
[09:34] <lukemadzedze> Laney: thank you very much
[14:48] <lukesoft> guys is there a way to find out which language a package is developed in, before i start trying to fixing its bug...or even downloading the sorces
[21:41] <lukesoft> is there a way of know the language used in a package, before downloading the sources....i want to try out fixing a bug or 2 but only if its a java application...but i dont seem to see any other way to know its a java programm before downloading the sources
[21:50] <rbasak> lukesoft: if you have deb-src lines in sources.list, use apt-cache showsrc and examine its build dependencies, maybe?
[21:50] <rbasak> You will need to understand how those map to languages, and a C compiler won't be explicit in there as it's build-essential.
[21:50] <rbasak> (maybe C++ too, I'm not sure)
[21:51] <rbasak> lukesoft: it's hard to categories because source packages could use multiple languages. Most distro engineers handle many languages, so there's there's never been a need to classify them.
[21:57] <lukesoft> rbasak: Thanks a lot ey, i am a java developer with very limmited understanding of c++ and c, iam really desperate to start working on my first bug or 2, so naturally i would love to work on a java project for practice .......but i cant find any package written in java, to use for practice, and iam getting a bit demotivated as all the other languages a really looking like greek to me
[21:58] <lukesoft>  all the other languages *are really looking like greek to me
[21:58] <lukesoft> :(
[21:59] <rbasak> lukesoft: Ubuntu has a ton of Java work that needs doing, but unfortunately it may be too much in the deep end for you right now.
[22:00] <rbasak> lukesoft: I don't know much about the Java side of things, but you might be able to use "reverse-depends -b" to find things that require some named java package to build. That would maybe give you a helpful list.
[22:00] <rbasak> lukesoft: perhaps look at bugs against tomcat7 and tomcat8?
[22:02] <lukesoft> rbasak:Thanks a lot, let me try that for now, if i fail, i can always try my level best with everything else........after all i mainly want to do this to learn :)


[12:38] <cjohnston> mornin thorwil
[12:38] <thorwil> hi cjohnston
[12:39] <cjohnston> thanks for getting that going about the business cards
[12:40] <thorwil> cjohnston: np. we are lucky to have it in competent hands now :)
[12:41] <cjohnston> I spoke with the original creator of that card..  he wanted ~$255 US plus shipping to print them
[12:41] <thorwil> quantity?
[12:41] <cjohnston> 1000
[12:42] <thorwil> anyway, shipping makes no sense for something like this


[08:37] <rinzler> what is the best way to go about installing the correct drivers for my video card?
[10:06] <zequence> rinzler: What card do you have?
[11:34] <studio-user729> Hello. I'm  getting some garbled text on the install screen. I performed a quick queck - I'm using a Nvidia card clone (Galaxy model) - is this a problem?
[11:39] <zequence> studio-user729: As long as it's just while loading
[11:40] <zequence> studio-user729: Where in the install screen?
[11:40] <zequence> Ah, garbled text, sorry
[11:40] <zequence> That's weird
[11:41] <studio-user729> Not hugely bothered by it, but it came up during the Wireless password authentication and the splash screen. Looks like some sort of rendering issue.
[11:42] <studio-user729> It seems to have finished now.
[11:42] <studio-user729> Did you want me to send any stats or anything post installation?
[11:43] <zequence> studio-user729: Did you get the proprietary drivers installed?
[11:43] <zequence> Perhaps you have no issues after that?
[11:44] <studio-user729> I think I saw it mention Nvidia Liquidity - I was doing push-ups while it loaded though :D
[11:45] <studio-user729> I think it's probably okay - I'll reboot now - thakn you for your assistance.
[13:45] <gaetano> #geany
[16:45] <Jim_> Hi all
[16:45] <Jim_> I have a problem with installing ubuntu studio on my laptop
[16:45] <Georgopoulos> hi there!
[16:47] <Jim_> i have a Hp Pavilion G7 with amd a8 APU. When I try to install ubuntu studio i get Ubuntu studio Linux for creative humans and than it stops.
[16:47] <Jim_> The same with trying studio with the disc
[16:48] <Jim_> When i pressed esc then I get: pwconv: failed to change the mode of /etc/passwd- to 0600. How can I repaire that?
[16:50] <Georgopoulos> Is there a list of supported audio interfaces for the OS? I have a Steinberg CI1 which is not working on Fedora 15 (and there is no drivers on manufacturers website). Will this work on UbuntuSudio??
[16:50] <Georgopoulos> Thanks in advance


[01:04] <avihay> yey, kde 4.10 is out for kubuntu, and I probably don't even need to upgrade my LTS to have it