[12:41] <robotgeek> hmm, i apparently left out add-applications
[12:42] <LaserJock> bad robotgeek :)
[12:42] <robotgeek> the diff doesn't show svn added files
[12:42] <robotgeek> LaserJock: the best way to send in a new file is?
[12:43] <LaserJock> robotgeek: you should be able to do a "svn add" and svn diff it
[12:43] <LaserJock> you aren't able to?
[12:44] <robotgeek> LaserJock: nope, it doesn't diff
[12:44] <robotgeek> oh, you mean svn diff file.xml
[12:44] <robotgeek> okay, that works. but just svn diff doesn't
[12:44] <LaserJock> just svn diff at the top of the repo
[12:52] <robotgeek> LaserJock: thanks, that worked. mailed
[12:52] <robotgeek> now to find someone to commit, lol
[12:54] <LaserJock> hmm, I have no idea what you're talking about :-)
[12:55] <robotgeek> LaserJock: heh, i now have a go ahead on all commits related to KDG :)
[12:57] <LaserJock> it's not validating for me.
[12:57] <robotgeek> LaserJock: can you pasteibn the error?
[12:57] <LaserJock> just a sec
[12:58] <LaserJock> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9569
[12:59] <robotgeek> LaserJock: apparently you need to install a kde package
[01:00] <LaserJock> but should that matter? I don't know that the repo should be that dependent on outside packages
[01:00] <robotgeek> kdelibs-data
[01:00] <robotgeek> cause it's a kde documentation shared entity file
[01:00] <LaserJock> robotgeek: I've got a meeting right now.
[01:00] <LaserJock> should I just commit it?
[01:01] <robotgeek> LaserJock: yeah
[01:01] <LaserJock> it validates for you?
[01:01] <robotgeek> LaserJock: yup
[01:01] <LaserJock> k
[01:01] <robotgeek> thanks
[01:03] <LaserJock> done
[01:03] <robotgeek> ty
[03:37] <Burglaptop> holy crap! There is a large scale, gov't funded Ubuntu deployment happening on the Island right now
[03:42] <Burglaptop> http://www.silc.ca/drupal/?q=node/62
[04:54] <Burglaptop> Madpilot: holy crap! There is a large scale, gov't funded Ubuntu deployment happening on the Island right now
[04:54] <Burglaptop> http://www.silc.ca/drupal/?q=node/62
[04:56] <Madpilot> Burglaptop, yeah, saw your email - that's very cool
[04:56] <Burglaptop> amazing what you turn up when you start looking
[04:57] <Madpilot> Burglaptop, have you contacted SILC yourself?
[04:57] <Burglaptop> I went down to Project Literacy Victoria tonight and chatted with a women there who showed me her lab
[04:57] <Burglaptop> she said "and here was have 5 windows XP Pro machines and here is a machine we are testing an open source OS called Ubuntu. Have you heard of it?"
[04:58] <Burglaptop> then she told me about SILC
[04:58] <Madpilot> heh
[04:58] <robotgeek> :)
[04:58] <Burglaptop> I am going to be chatting with SILC tomorrow
[04:58] <Burglaptop> on another note.  Que World Vision sad music. "For only dollars a day, you can support this lonely Linux desktop installation"
[05:10] <Burglaptop> black and white shots of malnourished developers
[05:14] <robotgeek> Burglaptop: don't forget doc writers :)
[05:14] <robotgeek> phew, finished sorting 10 gb's of music
[05:16] <Madpilot> only 10Gb? ;)
[05:16] <robotgeek> Madpilot: i gotta sort thru some more
[05:16] <robotgeek> yay, i got SVN access!
[05:16] <bhuvan> robotgeek, congrats!
[05:17] <bhuvan> Madpilot, i guess you were waiting for the same ?
[05:17] <robotgeek> sadly, i have nothing more to commit today, lol
[05:17] <Madpilot> hey, the email just arrived - cool!
[05:17] <Madpilot> (for commit access, that is)
[05:18] <Madpilot> I'll sort it out after I eat
[05:18] <robotgeek> Madpilot: congrats, (again)
[05:20] <robotgeek> by the end of this week, i would like you guys to review KDG and offer suggestions
[05:21] <Burglaptop> robotgeek: Madpilot and I are exclusively gnome users
[05:22] <robotgeek> Burglaptop: style wise, maybe.
[05:22] <Burglaptop> robotgeek: sure, I should be able to
[05:22] <robotgeek> anyways, you guys might want to rip out the office section from KDG
[05:25] <Burglaptop> robotgeek: what is Kubuntu shipping? OO.o or KOffice?
[05:30] <Madpilot> robotgeek, I'll do a proofreading run thru KDG for you if you want - style & typos & such
[05:31] <Madpilot> UDG seems to be mostly finished for now - I'll do one more pass thru it sometime this week
[05:31] <Madpilot> dinner, back later
[05:39] <Burglaptop> robitaille: you see the exciting news?
[05:41] <robitaille> Burglaptop:  news?
[05:41] <Burglaptop> robitaille: you subscribed to gnome-ca, ubuntu-ca or vlug discuss?
[05:41] <robitaille> oh...just saw your email on vlug. cool
[05:53] <Burglaptop> ok, styles and OO.o are pissing me off
[05:53] <Burglaptop> they appear to work in FC4
[05:55] <Burglaptop> hey that is cool. Ubuntu is not a typo in OO.o by default
[05:56] <LaserJock> really?
[05:56] <Burglaptop> I think so
[06:01] <Madpilot> cool, commit access decrypted - now off to read the rest of the SVN documentation :P
[06:01] <robotgeek> Burglaptop: openoffice
[06:02] <Burglaptop> Madpilot: did you svn access just come back again?'
[06:02] <Madpilot> Burglaptop, I never had it, I'd lost the password to my first GPG key
[06:03] <Burglaptop> robotgeek: that is what I thought. Be careful about discussing things like koffice, as they duplicate functionality in the core install and might simply confuse
[06:03] <robotgeek> Burglaptop: ah, okay.
[06:58] <robotgeek> Madpilot: yes, please do proofread :)
[06:58] <Madpilot> robotgeek, will do - sometime this week, not sure when
[06:58] <robotgeek> Madpilot: take your time, i will be updating and fixin a few more things. Lots more to do
[07:25] <robotgeek> jsgotangco: i got SVN commit access :)
[07:26] <jsgotangco> robotgeek, woooo congrats m8
[07:26] <Madpilot> mine finally arrived too
[07:27] <robotgeek> expect a commit spree from tommorow, lol
[07:32] <Madpilot> hmm, fun in #edubuntu...
[07:33] <Burglaptop> indeed
[07:33] <robotgeek> damn, just missed it. i see lilo there, which is not good :)
[07:33] <Burglaptop> you can read  the log
[07:34] <Madpilot> someone was changing the topic there, and claiming their irc client had been hacked
[07:34] <Burglaptop> he also wanted to know how to hack like they did on some PBS kids computer show
[07:35] <Madpilot> missed that part, I just showed up in time to watch everyone talk at lilo
[07:36] <Burglaptop> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/edubuntu-current.html
[07:36] <Burglaptop> see the fun
[07:36] <Burglaptop> ah, cyberchase, that is the pbskids program
[07:41] <Madpilot> entertaining log - I assume the little troll got banned?
[07:41] <robotgeek> Burglaptop: no ops there?
[07:41] <robotgeek> Madpilot: no
[07:42] <manicka> do we have a troll in our midst?
[07:42] <Madpilot> on #edubuntu - fun's over, though
[07:43] <Madpilot> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/edubuntu-current.html
[07:43] <robotgeek> manicka: hmm, try the kdg now, it should validate. i apparently missed a chapter, lol
[07:43] <manicka> ta
[08:02] <Burglaptop> hmm, our op situation on most channels is pretty bad
[08:04] <Madpilot> the main chan. coverage is getting better (I must have been insane to volunteer, though...)
[08:04] <Burglaptop> I really should remove myself. I am never there now
[08:05] <Burglaptop> maybe I should keep it, just for the airstrike-like quality of having an op join and kick them
[08:05] <Madpilot> "I love the smell of kickbanned troll in the morning"
[08:10] <Burglaptop> rob: sadly yes
[08:10] <rob> the op situation should be sorted at this CC meeting
[08:10] <Burglaptop> ok, the tab completion in xchat-gnome is borked
[08:10] <Burglaptop> rather than cycle through the options, it just lists them
[08:10] <Burglaptop> I will deal with it
[08:11] <Madpilot> rob, someone didn't notice the ubuntu cloak when they ran whois on you... or they didn't bother to run whois at all
[08:11] <rob> Madpilot, yeah probably :)
[08:11] <rob> lilo was paged in for that job
[08:12] <Burglaptop> which I guess is what bash does, but it doesn't complete on rob, when in fact a nick named rob
[08:12] <rob> I think he was sleeping or something
[08:12] <Madpilot> I think a bunch of people pm'd lilo
[08:13] <rob> Madpilot, no, lilo has a pager that staff can page him on, I'd done it a bunch of times
[08:13] <Madpilot> ah
[08:13] <rob> s/I'd/I've
[08:14] <rob> we had a lot of GNAA problems a while ago, that was an instant page when they showed up
[08:15] <rob> lovely people, them
[08:15] <rob> ah*scriptkiddies*choo..!
[08:20] <jsgotangco> i gotta go
[08:20] <jsgotangco> brb
[08:27] <Burglaptop> hmm, "Other activities in Wiesbaden, Germany: May 3-12, 2006"
[08:27] <Burglaptop> from JeffWaugh
[08:33] <robitaille> that restart icon in Dapper after some upgrades really reminds me of Windows...
[08:34] <Burglaptop> that icon should be replaced soon
[08:34] <Burglaptop> but in reality, a stable system is only going to see that icon about once
[08:35] <robitaille> we should see it after any kernel security upgrade, no?
[08:35] <Burglaptop> yes, but how many has breezy had?
[08:36] <Burglaptop> oh, and dbus updates
[08:37] <Burglaptop> dbus developers need to get on the d-Unix bus and realize that userspace services should not require restarts
[08:37] <robitaille> Burglaptop:  4 times for Breezy.  So once a month
[08:38] <Burglaptop> about the same as a WinXP box, as MS only updates XP once a month
[08:39] <robitaille> So it's back to my original point:  it reminds me of Windows :)
[08:39] <Burglaptop> indeed
[08:40] <Burglaptop> actually, we are worse than windows, as Windows will do the actually installing when you shutting down normally, thus saving a reboot in the middle fo work
[08:40] <mdke> morning
[08:42] <Burglaptop> morning mdke
[08:47] <mdke> :)
[08:47] <Burglaptop> it is almost morning here. Another 17 minutes
[08:47] <mdke> haha
[08:49] <mdke> mpt_, ping?
[08:49] <mdke> AboutUbuntu? is it going to happen?
[08:50] <rob> hmm, I thought of some Automatix/Easyubuntu basted child when I first read that
[08:52] <mdke> eh? it's just an about window
[08:56] <robitaille> anyone knows in which package the default bookmarks of Firefox live?   I just noticed it still contains a reference to bugzilla.u.c
[08:57] <mdke> i think they are in mozilla-firefox
[08:57] <robitaille> thanks
[09:01] <Burglaptop> mdke: that is now the fourth attempt to shutdown that bloody initng crack thread
[09:01] <mdke> true
[09:01] <mdke> and the 40th attempt to generally stop the noise
[09:01] <Burglaptop> fedora-devel and debian-devel are even more noisy
[09:01] <mdke> i'm hoping the "developers have stopped reading this list" warning will sink in
[09:01] <Burglaptop> because nobody tries
[09:02] <Burglaptop> I find it interesting the people who post to -devel
[09:02] <mdke> some of them are extraordinary
[09:02] <Burglaptop> there are two major camps: the actual developers and those that just want to talk about something
[09:02] <mdke> there was a mini-thread about debugging a Window XP problem!
[09:03] <mdke> crazy shit
[09:03] <Burglaptop> some of us who are well respected but not developers rarely post
[09:03] <mdke> I only post to ask people to be quiet :)
[09:03] <Burglaptop> indeed, as do robitaille and seveas
[09:03] <mdke> mmm
[09:04] <mdke> although it's important to be patient, especially with newcomers
[09:04] <Burglaptop> yes, not biting their heads off is good, but also being firm
[09:04] <mdke> that guy was right, if someone comes along saying "how can I help", it's really out of order to say "not by posting here"
[09:05] <Madpilot> someone actually said that on one of the -devel lists?
[09:05] <Burglaptop> I need to merge HelpingUbuntu and /community/participate
[09:05] <mdke> yeah, Seveas
[09:05] <Madpilot> out of patience from stupidity on #ubuntu, probably :P
[09:05] <mdke> possibly
[09:06] <mdke> damn we really need to know if AboutUbuntu is going to happen
[09:06] <mdke> mpt_ !!! please reply
[09:06] <Burglaptop> mdke: I don't think it is
[09:06] <mdke> gah
[09:07] <mdke> i'll mail him
[09:07] <Burglaptop> because mpt_ mentioned at UBZ that he had run out of pygtk skills and nobody else stood up and helped him
[09:07] <robitaille> humm...someone reported 5 weeks ago that bugzilla.u.c is still in the firefox bookmarks... (bug 28896)
[09:07] <mdke> Burglaptop, he's worked on it since then
[09:08] <Madpilot> bugzilla.u.c should still redirect to the malone page - just yanking it seems uncool
[09:08] <Burglaptop> yes, but only really picked at it
[09:08] <mdke> robitaille, it'll get fixed I'm sure.  It should randomly dropped for about 2 minutes there
[09:21] <mdke> mpt_, does that mean it's not happening?
[09:22] <Burglaptop> wow, I am tired. That last sentence made absolutely no sense
[09:23] <mpt_> mdke, FeatureFreeze has started and I hardly have any time
[09:23] <mpt_> I'll see what I can do
[09:24] <mdke> mpt_, ok, but we really need to know soon, because if not we need to work on the alternative, which sucks
[09:26] <mdke> -> work
[09:31] <Madpilot> someone want to give me the 30 second guide to using SVN commit?
[09:32] <Madpilot> if I do "svn commit ~/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu/desktopguide" it'll commit all my desktopguide changes, and prompt for password, right?
[09:34] <Madpilot> anyone? I'd rather not screw our SVN repo up with my first commit... :P
[09:35] <Burglaptop> Madpilot: you can also tell it what you username is password is with -u and -p
[09:36] <Madpilot> OK - I need to put a -m tag in there too, I see
[09:37] <Madpilot> so "svn commit ~/ubuntu-doc/ubuntu/desktopguide -m "UDG updates & editing" -u <password>"
[09:39] <bhuvan> Madpilot, you can enter the password just once and it will be stored in ~/.subversion and you need not pass/use the password anymore
[09:39] <bhuvan> Madpilot, ever its good to do 'svn diff' before running 'svn commit' and confirm we commit only the files we intend to
[09:40] <Madpilot> in this case, I'm changing most of the files in /ubuntu/desktop
[09:41] <Madpilot> if I add -p <pw> to my first commit, it'll be remembered, right?
[09:45] <Burglaptop> night all
[09:45] <Madpilot> later
[09:46] <bhuvan> Madpilot, you can just run 'cd ubuntu-doc/ubuntu/desktopguide && svn commit'. first time it will prompt for password and consequent times it wont
[09:46] <bhuvan> Madpilot, if you prefer to use password in command line use '--password' option. refer 'svn commit --help' for details
[09:48] <Madpilot> bhuvan, thanks, I've been reading the docs & svnbook, but needed a bit of clarification
[10:10] <Madpilot> hmm, our SVN repo doesn't seem to be recognizing my new password...
[10:12] <bhuvan> Madpilot, it will. it is case sensitive
[10:12] <bhuvan> Madpilot, what kind of issue you face ?
[10:14] <Madpilot> I copied & pasted the pw right off the GPG decrypt
[10:15] <Madpilot> bhuvan, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9585
[10:15] <Madpilot> thanks
[10:16] <bhuvan> Madpilot, what is your user id ?
[10:16] <bhuvan> is it brian ?
[10:16] <Madpilot> as far as I know, yeah
[10:16] <Madpilot> haven't even thought about it since I set the svn up ages ago
[10:16] <bhuvan> ok, whats your email id ?
[10:17] <bhuvan> s/(email id)/ubuntu $1/g
[10:17] <Madpilot><EMAIL_ADDRESS>- is that actually my ID?
[10:17] <Madpilot> my LP name, right?
[10:17] <bhuvan> what is your ubuntu email id ?
[10:17] <Madpilot> as above -<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:18] <bhuvan> whats your lp URL ?
[10:18] <Madpilot> https://launchpad.net/people/yh728 - from an older email addy - should I try that?
[10:20] <bhuvan> Madpilot, generally lp user id = svn user id, i guess. just to confirm i have send an email to your account
[10:21] <Madpilot> got it sorted - my svn id is "yh728" still
[10:21] <bhuvan> see if you have received an email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and check the to-id as well
[10:21] <bhuvan> Madpilot, yes
[10:21] <bhuvan> so, your email id is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:22] <Madpilot> can I change that in LP without majorly screwing things up?
[10:22] <Madpilot> like SVN commit access, now that I finally have it?
[10:23] <bhuvan> "can I change that" = ?
[10:23] <Madpilot> change my LP name from "yh728" to something that actually means something, I mean
[10:24] <bhuvan> nope, i guess. the ubuntu user id is tied to lp account. so, the svn access and email id
[10:24] <Madpilot> gah. LP got that from an old email addy, it would be nice to get it changed to 'bburger' or something
[10:28] <bhuvan> Madpilot, out of box lp does not handle it, i guess. we should check with lp admin
[10:29] <Madpilot> is the easiest way to do that to file a Support Request thru LP?
[10:30] <Madpilot> or just thru email?
[10:30] <bhuvan> i guess support request through lp is a best option
[10:31] <Madpilot> OK, I'll do that - thanks again
[10:31] <Madpilot> People are going to wonder who the heck "yh728" is on the docteam commits :P
[10:31] <bhuvan> ofcourse! :) :)
[10:34] <bhuvan> Madpilot also check with mdke/jsgotangco if we can route it through dholbach or Seveas to get it done quickly, just a thought though
[10:35] <Madpilot> sure - I'll mail the list just now
[07:03] <jjesse> just wanted to let people know that i'm redoing the adept guide from scratch as it is all of date
[07:03] <robotgeek> jjesse: cool
[07:03] <robotgeek> jjesse: what is the best way to link to other kde documentation?
[07:03] <LaserJock> nothing like starting over from scratch ;-)
[07:03] <jjesse> did everyone see the announcement on the fridge about the ubuntu book
[07:04] <LaserJock> no
[07:04] <LaserJock> I'll go check it out
[07:04] <robotgeek> yup, i caught it..very nice
[07:10] <jjesse> hopefully i hear back soon on my second draft, though i will probablly have changes to with adept being updated at the last minute
[07:16] <Burgwork> mdke, you there?
[09:51] <mdke> Burgwork, vaguely
[09:52] <Burgwork> mdke, given last nights fun in #edubuntu , I realized we need to be more proactive with ops in various channels
[09:53] <mdke> aha
[09:53] <Burgwork> mdke, any objections to adding myself and jerome to the list of ops for this channel?
[09:53] <LaserJock> Burgwork: fun in #edubuntu?
[09:54] <Burgwork> LaserJock, we had a troll/young kid having fun
[09:54] <Burgwork> had to call in lilo as only highvoltage has ops
[09:54] <mdke> no objection, although I've never seen any of that here
[09:54] <LaserJock> hmm, seems like most of the support channels are having problems
[09:55] <Burgwork> I had never seen it before in #edubuntu, but this is about proactively preventing it
[09:55] <LaserJock> makes sense
[09:56] <LaserJock> hope it wasn't theCore, his little brother has been causing him lots of problems :(
[09:56] <Burgwork> mdke, anybody you can think of that in the 0800 to 1600 UTC timezone?
[09:57] <Burgwork> as I can pretty reliably be on 2000 UTC to 0800 UTC, at home or work
[10:02] <mdke> Burgwork, i can't think of anyone, but i don't think we need to be paranoid about it
[10:03] <Burgwork> ok. I think all the trolls are American anyway... ;)
[10:04] <LaserJock> yeah, us Americans are a trolling lot ;-)
[10:04] <mdke> Burgwork, you don't have a hostmask/
[10:04] <mdke> ?
[10:05] <Burgwork> such as /ubuntu/member ?
[10:06] <mdke> or something else
[10:06] <Burgwork> mdke, if you op Burgundavia, all my other nicks are linked to it
[10:06] <mdke> i can't op a nick
[10:06] <mdke> i need a hostmask, i think
[10:06] <Burgwork> Seveas did it on #edubuntu
[10:06] <mdke> hang on
[10:07] <mdke> ah shit, I can't add people
[10:07] <Burgwork> I think you need jdub for that
[10:07] <Burgwork> he is active right now
[10:08] <mdke> i need ChrisH
[10:08] <mdke> jdub has the same access level as I do
[10:08] <Burgwork> oh geez
[10:08] <mdke> no problem, I'll ask him
[10:08] <Burgwork> this is part of the cleanup we need to do
[10:08] <Burgwork> most of the channels are pretty adhoc
[10:09] <mdke> ok, I'll sort it and let you know
[10:09] <Burgwork> cheers, thanks
[10:10] <mdke> afk


[02:18] <bluesabre> jphilips: absolutely, feel free to edit the release notes
[02:27] <bluesabre> jphilips: as for the LTR bug with the Arabic language, I'm pretty sure this wouldn't be a Xubuntu-specific bug, but rather something tied to language support in Ubuntu or Xfce. Are any of the other flavors affected?
[02:39] <bluesabre> jphilips, Unit193, I went ahead and reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1922157, can one of you add a link to the dependencies on one of the other flavors? I've not had much luck when digging around for an example.
[02:39] <ubot3> Launchpad bug 1922157 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Depend on gnome-software to prevent upgrade to snap-store-desktop" [Undecided, New]
[06:12] <jphilips> bluesabre: seems i already filed it a week ago, so adjust it as needed - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1920745
[06:12] <ubot3> Launchpad bug 1920745 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Apps appear incorrectly when using an RTL language" [Undecided, New]
[06:12] <jphilips> wasn't going to edit the release notes, i wanted to add it to the testing week blog post :D
[06:53] <jphilips> yep the arabic bug does affect all the gtk flavors
[06:54] <jphilips> bluesabre: this should be pushed into 21.04, 20.10 and 20.04 docs - https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-docs/pull/13
[06:54] <ubot3> Pull 13 in Xubuntu/xubuntu-docs "Fix last LTS release name" [Open]
[10:15] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: Replace password prompt with greybird-dark entry (LP: #1917062) @ https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-artwork/commit/90de999997e46c70b282877ccc9eb744ba6149d3 (by bluesabre)


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[06:08] <doko> rbalint: util-linux still builds util-linux-udeb, and won't migrate
[06:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mir [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/main) [2.3.2-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[06:13] <ricotz> hello, could someone please retry https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:7.1.1~rc2-0ubuntu1/+build/21083933
[06:56] <seb128> ricotz, hey, retried now
[07:11] <ricotz> seb128, thank you
[07:11] <seb128> np!
[07:21] <doko> rbalint: util-linux fixed
[07:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added gcc-8 to i386-whitelist in hirsute
[07:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added gnome-icon-theme to i386-whitelist in hirsute
[07:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added libprelude to i386-whitelist in hirsute
[07:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added p7zip to i386-whitelist in hirsute
[07:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added rpm to i386-whitelist in hirsute
[07:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added xcftools to i386-whitelist in hirsute
[08:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mir [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed/main) [2.3.2-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[08:31] <ricotz> I am wondering if these builds are stuck or still working hard in the background? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:7.1.1~rc2-0ubuntu1/+build/21083931 -- https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:7.1.1~rc2-0ubuntu1/+build/21083932
[08:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mir [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.3.2-0ubuntu1]
[08:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mir [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [2.3.2-0ubuntu1]
[08:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mir [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.3.2-0ubuntu1]
[08:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mir [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.3.2-0ubuntu1]
[08:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mir [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [2.3.2-0ubuntu1]
[08:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted mir [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [2.3.2-0ubuntu1]
[09:21] <Laney> why do I have a bazillion livefs/cdimage failures?!
[09:21] <Laney> ricotz: I think it's probably still grinding away
[09:29] <Laney> oh they're all old
[09:33] <Laney> someone cancelled all the hung builds I guess ...
[09:37] <RikMills> seb128: would you consider hinting flatpak on s390x? debian maintainer has not and cannot maintain the tests on that apparently
[09:38] <seb128> RikMills, don't ask me, I'm not in the release team so I can't hint things, also I've no clue about flatpak nor interest
[09:38] <RikMills> seb128: oh, I thought you were release team as well as AA. apologies
[09:40] <seb128> RikMills, no worry :-)
[09:42] <RikMills> I think I need a post-it-note on my monitor with who is RT and who is AA. the mismatch between the 2 often catches me out!
[09:44] <RikMills> so same question to any RT members lurking ;)
[09:49] <Laney> cjwatson: that ^- is reminding me... could you put https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/germinate/+git/germinate/+merge/397151 on your queue please?
[09:50] <Laney> RikMills: I'll look, a patch to upstream (Debian) to skip on arches they don't care about would be welcome
[09:51] <RikMills> Laney: understood.
[09:52] <RikMills> I have to forward the one I already have applied anyway
[09:54] <Laney> yes please!
[09:54] <cjwatson> Laney: Oh right, will do
[09:54] <cjwatson> Laney: Which host is germinate hanging on here?
[09:56] <Laney> cjwatson: It's germinate as called from livecd-rootfs, so inside a buildd and I guess germinate from the archive
[09:56] <Laney> which implies SRUing I suppoes
[09:56] <Laney> suppose
[10:02] <cjwatson> Laney: ugh, well I'm happy for somebody else to do that once it's in hirsute
[10:02] <cjwatson> Laney: some comments for you
[10:02] <Laney> thanks
[10:02] <Laney> I'll look again soon
[10:03] <seb128> Laney, didn't you say we were ignoring netplan.io/ppc64el failing tests now?
[10:03] <seb128>  network-manager (1.26.2-1ubuntu1 to 1.30.0-1ubuntu1) in proposed for 0 days
[10:03] <seb128> Regressions
[10:03] <seb128>     netplan.io/0.101-4ubuntu2: ppc64el (log, history)
[10:04] <Laney> did I?
[10:05] <seb128> I guess I misunderstood the '	seb128: slyon: I will add a hint for netplan.io now, but I would appreciate it if this regression could still be investigated, it might be finding a bug (at least a test bug) on ppc64el'
[10:07] <RikMills> I see a hint for ubuntu1 but proposed has ubuntu2
[10:09] <RikMills> s/proposed/release
[10:11] <Laney> ah I see, that version has a pass
[10:15] <RikMills> so does ubuntu2 against itself, so I guess a reset against that would not work either?
[10:15] <Laney> I just need to bump it
[10:16] <Laney> done
[10:17] <RikMills> I find this reset thing mildly confusing
[10:18] <Laney> which part?
[10:19] <seb128> thx
[10:20] <RikMills> ubuntu2 has a pass, so if 'that' is the new baseline, and ubuntu2 has a fail against something else, then how is that still not a regression against the new baseline
[10:23] <Laney> The baseline state for that version is a failure, so that will become the new baseline
[10:24] <RikMills> so it takes more recent results. fair enough
[10:25] <Laney> It basically starts again from any higher versions, that's an easier way to think about it
[10:25] <RikMills> thanks
[11:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gcc-8 [i386] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [8.4.0-7ubuntu2] (i386-whitelist)
[11:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gcc-8 [i386] (hirsute-proposed) [8.4.0-7ubuntu2]
[11:09] <doko> xnox: ^^^
[12:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rustc [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.48.0+dfsg1+llvm-2ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist)
[13:23] <paride> hi! it seems that the casper/filesystem.squashfs in the s390x images can't be unsquashed: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Kp652SDKwf/
[13:24] <paride> this on the Focal images and happening since ~2021-02-21
[13:24] <paride> did anything change in the way it's generated?
[13:25] <paride> sil2100 ^
[13:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-gcp-4.15 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1094.107] (no packageset)
[13:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-gkeop [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-1011.12] (no packageset)
[13:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-1041.43] (core, kernel)
[13:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oracle [amd64] (groovy-proposed/main) [5.8.0-1022.23] (core, kernel)
[13:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oem-5.6 [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.6.0-1049.53] (no packageset)
[13:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oracle [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1066.74~16.04.1] (kernel)
[13:50] <paride> can reproduce locally on hirsute by loop-mounting the s390x image and trying unsquashfs on installer.squashfs
[13:51] <paride> mwhudson, ^^ this is likely the cause of the ubuntu-focal-live-server-s390x-smoke-edge failures
[14:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gcp-4.15 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1094.107]
[14:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-azure [amd64] (focal-proposed) [5.4.0-1041.43]
[14:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oem-5.6 [amd64] (focal-proposed) [5.6.0-1049.53]
[14:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gkeop [amd64] (focal-proposed) [5.4.0-1011.12]
[15:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rustc [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [1.48.0+dfsg1+llvm-2ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist)
[15:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rustc [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.48.0+dfsg1+llvm-2ubuntu1]
[15:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rustc [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [1.48.0+dfsg1+llvm-2ubuntu1]
[15:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rustc [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [1.48.0+dfsg1+llvm-2ubuntu1]
[15:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rustc [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [1.48.0+dfsg1+llvm-2ubuntu1]
[15:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rustc [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.48.0+dfsg1+llvm-2ubuntu1]
[15:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rustc [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [1.48.0+dfsg1+llvm-2ubuntu1]
[15:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rustc [i386] (hirsute-proposed) [1.48.0+dfsg1+llvm-2ubuntu1]
[16:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oracle [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.15.0-1066.74~16.04.1]
[16:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oracle [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [5.8.0-1022.23]
[16:54]  * RikMills thanks L@ney as flatpak migrated and the thing it blocked
[16:55] <RikMills> FYI, I have no clue on the flatpak test failures against new glib2.0 :P
[16:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (focal-proposed/main) [2.664.17 => 2.664.18] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist)
[19:22] <lucasmoura> tjaalton, sil2100  Sorry to bother with this again, but do we have an update on the SRU for unattended-upgrades on Xenial ?
[19:22] <lucasmoura> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unattended-upgrades/+bug/1915547
[19:23] <lucasmoura> If not, no problem at all. I just want to make sure that everyhing is in order with that proposal
[19:23] <lucasmoura> ps: I realized I posted this on the wrong channel (ubuntu-devel), so that's why I am posting it here now
[20:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1109.121~16.04.1] (kernel)


[15:30] <cpaelzer> hiho
[15:30] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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[15:30] <cpaelzer> ping sarnold jamespage slyon for MIR meeting
[15:30] <cpaelzer> ping ddstreet until we have a replacement
[15:31] <sarnold> good morning
[15:31] <slyon> o/
[15:31] <cpaelzer> not pinging did_rocks he is absent with a valid excuse :-)
[15:31] <sarnold> snow day? :)
[15:31] <cpaelzer> no snow here :-P
[15:31] <cpaelzer> Th elists looked full in a sneak peak, so let us get going
[15:32] <cpaelzer> #topic Review of previous action items
[15:32] <cpaelzer> we had none defined
[15:32] <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
[15:32] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[15:32] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[15:33] <slyon> ccache vs hiredis is being discussed here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2021-December/041710.html
[15:33] <cpaelzer> I've seen it, thanks slyon
[15:33] <cpaelzer> haproxy is being worked on
[15:33] <cpaelzer> sdl and django have new MIRs int he new queue today
[15:34] <cpaelzer> so what is really new
[15:34] <cpaelzer> jeepney -> *
[15:34] <slyon> so does dh-elpa
[15:34] <cpaelzer> jeepney is foundations
[15:34] <cpaelzer> I do not know why its dependencies exploded so much
[15:35] <cpaelzer> but slyon could you find someone to do an initial triage of what is going on ?
[15:35] <slyon> yeah I'm wondering as well...
[15:35] <cpaelzer> cherryp3/cheroot for oepnstack (no changes)
[15:35] <slyon> yes, I can do that
[15:35] <cpaelzer> a bunch of known cases and known false positives
[15:35] <cpaelzer> I see one more
[15:36] <cpaelzer> python-pysaml2 -> responses/importlib-resources/emlementpath/python-repoze
[15:36] <cpaelzer> jamespage: that is an openstack package
[15:36] <cpaelzer> since we didn't hear a ping from jamespage yet let me highlight coreycb ^^ FYI
[15:37] <cpaelzer> jamespage: if you read the log/ping later - would you find someone from your team to have a look what happened to python-pysaml2 please ?
[15:37] <cpaelzer> since it is new this week we do not have to panic and can go on for now IMHO
[15:37] <sarnold> on the component-mismatches.svg, there's screen-resolution-extra -> policykit-1-gnome, which feels vaguely familiar, but I don't see it in /lastlog
[15:38] <sarnold> is my /lastlog too short to see that's known? heh
[15:38] <cpaelzer> sarnold: it is a known false positive
[15:38] <sarnold> cool, thanks
[15:39] <cpaelzer> discussion was ~june 2021
[15:39] <cpaelzer> and once more a long while before
[15:39] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
[15:39] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:39] <cpaelzer> I see slyon prepared dh-elpa
[15:39] <cpaelzer> since we prefer cross reviews I volunteer to take this one
[15:40] <slyon> thanks. the package wasn't in best shape, so I added a diff to improve that a bit (e.g. add some testing)
[15:40] <cpaelzer> slyon: the cmake tasks on that is only for trackign right?
[15:40] <slyon> correct
[15:40] <cpaelzer> ok setting it to invlaid then
[15:40] <cpaelzer> I'd love if LP had a "for tracking" status
[15:41] <cpaelzer> didrocks: let me know that he volunteers for the new pirpewire thing in there
[15:41] <cpaelzer> we have one from coreycb (which usually james takes)
[15:41] <cpaelzer> let me cover the next two which are simpler
[15:41] <slyon> didrocks: also re dh-elpa: I think this should be a desktop package, as it is a abstraction layer above emacsen-common (a desktop package)
[15:42] <cpaelzer> slyon: why is it a dep of cmake then?
[15:42] <slyon> because cmake did use emacsen-common in the past for its packaging, but switched to using emacsen-common via dh-elpa now
[15:43] <cpaelzer> slyon:  we can review it normally and you can sort out (or let mclemenceau ask to do) if the final subscriber would be desktop
[15:43] <slyon> yes
[15:43] <cpaelzer> that needs to be kown when being promoted, not earlier
[15:43] <cpaelzer> python-asgiref and libdecor-0 are from the server team
[15:43] <cpaelzer> I could review asgiref but libdecor-0 I filed so I do not want to self-review
[15:44] <cpaelzer> slyon: would you take libdecor-0 please ?
[15:44] <slyon> ok
[15:44] <cpaelzer> that leaves two
[15:45] <cpaelzer>  xdg-desktop-portal-gnome from seb128 - usually those go to didrocks
[15:45] <cpaelzer> let me assign it and if not ok he can let us know
[15:45] <cpaelzer> and the python things from openstack by coreycb I assign to jamespage, please speak up (next time?) if that does not work out for you
[15:46] <cpaelzer> Ok, that is 1-2 reivews for each of us
[15:47] <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[15:47] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:48] <cpaelzer> raqm is incomplete between didrocks and slyon
[15:48] <cpaelzer> anything worth to discuss here about that one?
[15:49] <slyon> waveform had been taking care of that and he's usually on top of it, so I will coordinate with him about raqm
[15:49] <cpaelzer> ok
[15:50] <cpaelzer> everything else is older
[15:50] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
[15:50] <sarnold> nothing from me
[15:50] <slyon> nothing
[15:50] <cpaelzer> nothing from me either - other than the active cases we have assigned above
[15:50] <cpaelzer> let us try to get those processed pre-christmas
[15:51] <cpaelzer> so that they are ready or at least in the queue of security for them to have a better chance at prio-planning
[15:51] <cpaelzer> ok, closing then ...
[15:51] <cpaelzer> thanks everyone
[15:51] <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[15:51] <slyon> thank you o/
[15:51] <cpaelzer> didrocks: and jamespage: pelase read the backlog once you are around
[15:51] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
[15:51] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:51:58 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-12-07-15.30.moin.txt


[01:39] <ScottK> cjwatson: Thanks for you abundance of caution with sticking with the process for Kylin.
[01:40] <cjwatson> Somebody has to :)  GNOME Remix is coming up too, but I need to look into what's needed in terms of live-build configuration there as apparently they aren't currently using live-build so I can't just steal that
[01:40] <cjwatson> So that may take a little longer.  It was second in the queue anyway
[01:42] <ScottK> I waved my wand over it too, so the path is clear when ready.
[01:44] <cjwatson> Oh, is there a general FFE bug for it?
[01:45] <cjwatson> I think I'll need an RT to get BuildLiveCD updated for Kylin.  Maybe I should check it in but wait until I have the GNOME Remix stuff done too, so that I can save a request.
[01:46] <jbicha> cjwatson: hmm, I wonder why lubuntu is missing from BuildLiveCD
[01:46] <cjwatson> Or possibly I should remove the project check from that
[01:46] <cjwatson> err, good question
[01:47] <cjwatson> oh
[01:47] <cjwatson> "*ubuntu" matches
[01:48] <cjwatson> Ah yes, bug 1152818
[01:48] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1152818 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "[FFe]: Start building Ubuntu GNOME images" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1152818
[01:58] <cjwatson> jbicha: Thanks for the details
[02:32] <zequence> Anyone here who has the power to edit rights to http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com? We currently have the LP team ~ubuntustudio-core assigned to it, but would like our new team ~ubuntustudio-release handle it instead.
[02:34] <cjwatson> stgraber: ^-
[02:34] <stgraber> zequence: oops, completely forgot about that, fixing now
[02:34] <zequence> stgraber: np. Thanks
[02:35] <stgraber> zequence: done
[02:35] <zequence> great
[02:37]  * cjwatson decides that's enough build system wrangling for one night and goes to bed
[04:59] <phillw> stgraber: are you busy, or do you have a few minutes to spare?
[11:24] <ogra_> hmpf, the images still fall over on foomatic stuff ... even thouth the recommends was dropped from foomatic-filters
[11:25] <ogra_> *though
[11:27] <ogra_> ah, i see the discussion in -devel
[11:36] <cjwatson> Yeah, I was considering a batch of respins
[11:40] <cjwatson> Running
[11:40] <cjwatson> (Ubuntu desktop, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Wubi, Ubuntu Studio)
[11:41] <smartboyhw> Oh?
[11:42] <cjwatson> smartboyhw: The previous builds failed
[11:42] <smartboyhw> cjwatson, yeah:(
[11:49] <cjwatson> Hmph, still seems to be failing
[11:50] <smartboyhw> Uh
[11:53] <ogra_> cjwatson, its not fixed yet ...
[11:53] <cjwatson> Except germinate says it should be
[11:53] <cjwatson> But yeah, still has a Task field
[11:55] <cjwatson> Maybe it just needs another publisher run
[12:00] <cjwatson> Might be happier now - a publisher run just finished and it did touch raring
[12:00] <cjwatson> And foomatic-db-engine no longer has a Task field
[12:03] <ogra_> \o?
[12:03] <ogra_> err
[12:03] <ogra_> \o/
[12:04] <cjwatson> Yeah, there we go, Xubuntu was lucky in its timing
[12:04] <cjwatson> So I'll just have to do Ubuntu desktop and Kubuntu again later
[12:05] <knome> \o/


[05:44] <pavlushka> u-la-la: coffee on
[05:44]  * u-la-la washes some mugs
[05:45] <pavlushka> Morning Kilos :)
[05:45] <Kilos> hi pavlushka
[05:45] <Kilos> u-la-la coffee please
[05:45] <u-la-la> Kilos: Yessir
[05:45] <Kilos> u-la-la large
[05:45] <u-la-la> In a beer mug for you sir!
[05:47] <Kilos> u-la-la botsnack
[05:47] <u-la-la> Chomp chomp, Hmm... that tastes so good :D
[05:48] <u-la-la> Coffee's ready for pavlushka and Kilos!
[05:49] <pavlushka> u-la-la: thanks :)
[05:49] <u-la-la> pavlushka: np
[05:50] <Kilos> have the fly and paddatrapper finished the code for the upgrade yet pavlushka ?
[05:51] <pavlushka> Kilos: I must say, they have done a lot and it needs a lot more to do :)
[05:51] <Kilos> ah
[05:51] <Kilos> its a major job hey
[05:56] <pavlushka> Kilos: first of all they need a wiki for the users on how to.
[05:57] <pavlushka> Kilos: and the prerequisites info to run the instance
[05:57] <Kilos> i think padda will do that
[05:57] <pavlushka> Kilos: me too
[05:58] <Kilos> there are all the old sites with that kinda info
[05:58] <Kilos> lots of info was there before they moved
[05:59] <Kilos> should still be there
[05:59] <Kilos> ask padda
[05:59] <pavlushka> Kilos: I had to figure out some on my own and yes we had a chat :)
[13:02] <shajalal> hlw everyone
[13:20] <zaki> hello
[13:59] <Saiful> hello
[13:59] <zaki> hi Saiful
[13:59] <zaki> how are u doing?
[13:59] <zaki> hi pavlushka
[14:00] <Saiful> nothing
[14:00] <Saiful> but i have a query
[14:00] <Saiful> how to save my irc channel for next time use
[14:00] <zaki> Saiful: you seems to be busy all the time. :p
[14:01] <zaki> right click on the channel name and turn on auto join
[14:01] <zaki>  /enable autojoin
[14:02] <Saiful> no....! why are you asking about it?
[14:02] <Saiful> thanks
[14:03] <Saiful> send me some name of best irc channel......
[14:03] <zaki> Saiful: asking about what?
[14:05] <zaki> best irc channel like what?
[14:05] <zaki> ask Nahiyan about more irc channel :P
[14:06] <Saiful> how to mention a name in msg
[14:07] <Saiful> avoid it
[14:07] <zaki> write the fist word then press tab Saiful
[14:07] <zaki> u-la-la: coffee on
[14:07]  * u-la-la flips the salt-timer
[14:07] <Saiful> thanks
[14:08] <zaki> Saiful: mention me
[14:08] <Saiful> zaki, it's work
[14:09] <zaki> wow
[14:09] <Saiful> have you any skype id....
[14:10] <zaki> yep saiful. but i don;t do skype much
[14:10] <zaki> zflash.ctg
[14:11] <zaki> brb
[14:11] <u-la-la> Coffee's ready for zaki!
[14:17] <Saiful> only for zaki!!!!!???
[14:18] <pavlushka> zaki: Hello
[14:18]  * pavlushka on some emergency
[14:19] <Saiful> pavlushka, hi bro....
[14:32] <pavlushka> Saiful: get a cloak from #freenode
[14:32] <Saiful> no....
[14:36] <zaki> u-la-la: ty
[14:37] <u-la-la> zaki: Excuse me?
[14:37] <zaki> u-la-la: thanks
[14:37] <u-la-la> zaki: not at all
[14:37] <zaki> Saiful: you havn't order coffee
[14:58] <zaki> pavlushka: ping
[15:37] <pavlushka> zaki: pong
[15:39] <MSAR> Saiful is now MSAR
[16:04] <zaki> bbl


[09:07] <slyon> Could somebody please trigger the r-cran-curl VS curl/7.72.0-1ubuntu1 autopkgtest at https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/r-cran-curl/hirsute/amd64 (for amd64, arm64 and armhf)? There was a timeout reaching an external service at hb.opencpu.org but that service seems to be reachable again, as the tests are now working locally again.
[09:09] <seb128> slyon, retried
[09:09] <slyon> ty!
[13:31] <eoli3n> Hi
[13:31] <eoli3n> i'm discovering cloud-init
[13:31] <eoli3n> i manage 800 desktop ubuntu
[13:32] <eoli3n> for now i use kickstart to preseed ubuntu
[13:32] <eoli3n> in %post i run ansible
[13:32] <eoli3n> is it possible to replace kickstart preseed with cloud-init ?
[13:32] <eoli3n> does all ubuntu releases (not only server or cloud) supports cloud-init ?
[13:53] <ItzSwirlz> oml, Polari go coocoo
[13:54] <ItzSwirlz> eoli3n: This isn't a support channel, go to #ubuntu
[13:56] <eoli3n> this is not a support question
[14:04] <seb128> hum, is that expected that we don't have hirsute images in lxc or multipass at this point?
[14:05] <ItzSwirlz> my bad for being dumb-apologies
[14:59] <seb128> sil2100, hey, I guess you are the one who did an hirsute langpack landing? thanks! I think you get emails now but in case you don't, 'kab' packages got rejected, probably new ones to add to the whitelist?
[15:03] <sil2100> seb128: all handled! I pushed those manually and will add those to the packageset etc.
[15:04] <seb128> sil2100, thanks!
[15:04] <sil2100> (waiting for the proper teams to be assigned)
[15:07] <GunnarHj> sil2100: The team is https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-kab, isn't it?
[15:08] <GunnarHj> sil2100: Or rather https://launchpad.net/~translators-packages
[15:19] <sil2100> GunnarHj: yes, both, poked Brian a while ago to assign those to the packages
[15:19] <sil2100> Since I have no powers to do that
[15:19] <GunnarHj> sil2100: Ah, I see.
[15:20] <sil2100> It's about the subscriptions being done, not about what teams need subscribing :)
[15:54] <bdmurray> xnox: Did you see there is a patch and lkml posting regarding bug 1835660 now?
[16:19] <xnox> bdmurray:  the words in the lkml sound right. when apw & I were debugging it during the release sprint we came to the fact that yes the compressed stream looks roughly right but is it correct between userspace & kernel expectations.
[16:59] <ItzSwirlz> Hey everyone, I know that the ca-certificates issue is pissing everybody off (it is for me too), but if you have free time and you're a sponsor/reviewer, can you review my debdiff patch for Bug #1901344? Thanks
[19:36] <rbalint> LocutusOfBorg, vorlon  i think i made a mistake around ghc, i've retried many builds in proposed to see what fails by tomorrow and this included many ppc64el builds for haskell-*
[19:36] <rbalint> LocutusOfBorg, vorlon is it an issue that some of them now successfully built with ghc in -proposed?
[19:38] <rbalint> LocutusOfBorg, vorlon i just noticed that ghc 8.8.4-1ubuntu1 is still not in with the fix for Debian's #973623
[19:39] <LocutusOfBorg> rbalint, thanks, if they now builds, even better
[19:42] <rbalint> LocutusOfBorg, so no problem then?
[19:44] <rbalint> LocutusOfBorg, some of them succeeded, some not, it it causes no harm i trigger the rest, because I stopped the rebuilds in the middle
[19:51] <rbalint> LocutusOfBorg, ok, then i retry the rest
[20:00] <LocutusOfBorg> I honestly don't know rbalint :D
[20:10] <rbalint> LocutusOfBorg, apparently most of them don't build so it probably does not matter if they are retried, but at least non-haskell packages get a chance, too
[20:36] <mwhudson> if the builds succeed that's fine i think
[20:37] <mwhudson> i can't really think why the linker bug would be non-deterministic but if the code isn't always laid out in the same order it could be i guess
[20:37] <mwhudson> the bug is fixed upstream now
[20:37] <mwhudson> also most of the failures are fairly quick i think so eh
[22:01] <LocutusOfBorg> mwhudson, https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/costamagnagianfranco-ppa/+build/20310265
[22:01] <LocutusOfBorg> https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu/locutusofborg-ppa/+build/20310258
[22:01] <LocutusOfBorg> it fails with both bfd and gold now?
[22:01] <LocutusOfBorg> I'm lost, sure


[00:00] <sarnold> leftyfb: hah, I bet the idea is way older than that
[00:00] <sarnold> inetd was A Thing for ages :)
[00:29] <pizza> sarnold!!!!!!
[01:26] <sarnold> pizza!! :D
[01:28]  * arraybolt3 now wants to eat soem pizza
[01:28] <arraybolt3> s/soem/some/
[01:28] <murmel> the place I stay at, has a pizza place which is open till 6am
[01:32] <sarnold> heaven
[01:34] <murmel> definitely great :)
[01:34] <arraybolt3> Is the pizza good?
[01:34] <murmel> yeah! but at least in comparison to other stuff, it's not as cheap
[01:34] <arraybolt3> (I guess I've never had bad pizza, though it's definitely not healthy and sadly I can't even eat it anymore most of the time :-/)
[01:35] <murmel> how come?
[01:35] <murmel> yeah, I mean pizza is rather on the easy side to "cook"
[01:35] <arraybolt3> Sensitive to dairy and animal fat. It's really sad.
[01:35] <murmel> ugh
[01:35] <arraybolt3> But whatever. There's lots of other yummy food in the world.
[01:36] <murmel> sure but for me, cheese
[01:36] <murmel> especially french cheese
[01:36] <arraybolt3> The fun part is figuring out good milk alternatives. Me and my best friend made garbanzo milk earlier today, it actually came out really good for coffee creamer.
[01:37] <murmel> garbanzo?
[01:37] <sarnold> chickpeas, I think
[01:37] <arraybolt3> Yep. Garbanzo. aka chickpeas.
[01:38] <murmel> pretty sure you don't mean https://garbanzo.io/ ;)
[01:38] <murmel> ahh k
[01:38] <sarnold> pre-hummous
[01:38]  * arraybolt3 is scared to click that link
[01:38] <murmel> it's a software to learn spanish
[01:38] <arraybolt3> Oh lol.
[01:40] <sarnold> I don't really think of 'spanish' when I think of garbanzo beans
[01:41] <murmel> ask them why they named it that way ;)
[01:41] <arraybolt3> They're Italian... though they can make a decent burrito.
[01:42] <arraybolt3> But then again people think my sense of taste must have a corrupted sector or something, chances are if my dad hates a food, I'll love it.
[01:43] <sarnold> hahaha
[01:43] <murmel> arraybolt3: are you sure you are dads kid? ^^ (I mean for me it's also almost the same)
[01:43] <arraybolt3> Very sure.
[01:45] <arraybolt3> I guess some genes just must have tried to write to the same file at the same time or something. I like lots of foods my mom likes, lots of foods my dad likes, and then there's this "twilight zone" of things that one or both of them think taste horrible that I love, along with the "antimatter zone" of things that one or both of them love that I hate.
[01:46] <arraybolt3> Like I think mayo should be used as a caulk substitute with some added ingredients, not as a food item, but raw fish tastes great. So does salmon salad made with dill relish and salsa.
[01:53] <murmel> on the topic of ubuntu: can somebody explain to me how this is not a bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapstore-server/+bug/1993243
[01:53] -ubottu:#ubuntu-discuss- Launchpad bug 1993243 in Snap Store Server "can't refresh or install packages" [Undecided, Invalid]
[01:57] <sarnold> murmel: because replacing squid-deb-proxy with squid would probably fix it
[01:58] <murmel> ugh, so basically I need to run "full" squid to use snapd? still sounds a bug to me, as snapd errors out within a millisecond, and doesn't try to use no proxy
[01:59] <sarnold> you asked it to use a proxy, but the proxy you told it to use says no
[01:59] <murmel> i didn't?
[01:59] <murmel> I only ever typed in the proxy during install
[01:59] <sarnold> "this only ever happens when I add a proxy during install."
[01:59] <sarnold> skip that step? :)
[01:59] <murmel> yes, that's an apt proxy, says nothing about snapd
[02:00] <murmel> sarnold: I don't mind downloading the updates all the time I install ubuntu into a vm /s
[02:01] <sarnold> murmel: it might be worth adding a ubiquity bug task to say that the installer should ask for different proxies for different uses -- one for snap, one for deb, one for general system use, that way you can configure them as needed
[02:02] <murmel> sarnold: sounds good, still a bit annoying, as 18.04 and 20.04 didn't have that issue
[02:03] <murmel> which means snapd changed it's proxy detection to the same variable as apt oO
[02:03] <sarnold> murmel: is that because the installer changed, or because snapd these days uses a proxy but snapd from two or four years ago didn't?
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:59] <crax23> heya
[06:36] <arraybolt3> xu-irc5w is a troll, yes or no? (Referring to the current events in the #xubuntu channel.) I dunno if he's just bored or trying to cause trouble.
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> there's a lot of them hanging around lately arraybolt3
[06:42] <arraybolt3> Yeah. Here's hoping they don't start using AI to generate their responces.
[06:43] <arraybolt3> (Though that might be funny to detect - just say "Write a Wikipedia article about John Doe" in the middle of a support session, if the user suddenly floods the channel with junk you know it's a bot :P)
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> i think its already the case
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> the multiple joins are concerning
[06:45] <arraybolt3> OK, I just told him how to remove a giant (over 300 GiB) logfile using "sudo rm /path/to/logfile". If he's a troll, the next message will probably be "This is taking a long time. OH NO I JUST DELETED MY WHOLE DRIVE"
[06:46] <arraybolt3> (At least that's my guess.)
[07:55] <arraybolt3> lotuspsychje: I just don't see how this is real. It looks like he cleared his cookies yet he claims not to have, he runs Vim when trying to install rkhunter, now apt can't find rkhunter but he want to know how to run it, Brave won't launch yet there's no error message about it in the console output, and the log file issue looks like something he could have found with a Google search so he
[07:55] <arraybolt3> could sound believable.
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> it tiring for sure
[19:59] <leftyfb> oerheks: everything they have suggested is unlikely :)
[19:59] <oerheks> yeah, i just joined in ..
[20:10] <leftyfb> it's been pointed out to me that RiverGolem1 is a known troll. They've been banned from other channels for constantly posting inane questions. They've joined #u with the same hostname and almost 200 different nicks since June
[20:12] <sarnold> heh do they all end in numbers?
[20:13] <leftyfb> most do, not all
[20:14] <leftyfb> 8 out of 192 do not have numbers at the end
[20:16]  * daftykins is now known as daftykin357
[20:18] <sarnold> *so* shady
[20:18] <leftyfb> just more reason to keep an eye on them
[20:19] <sarnold> I I outsourced keeping an eye on daftykins to mischief. seems to be working so far.
[20:19] <daftykins> she keeps us both in line ;)
[20:19]  * sarnold nods
[20:24] <daftykins> (Mischief is my cat, for those unfamiliar - or rather i'm her staff)
[22:56] <goddard> the new gnome drop down in the top right is nice for the sound changer alone
[22:56] <goddard> needs a MIC options as well though
[23:55] <wez> daftykins: Nice, is it a requirement to have her on a leach when outside on public property?
[23:56] <wez> leash*


[01:23] <Eblis> Does anyone have links to monetization of Ubuntu apps?
[16:53] <wytsa> hello all
[16:53] <wytsa> have a question for you guys
[16:55] <wytsa> is there some setting in 'quickly' that would prevent a person from editing a label for anything when in design mode?
[16:56] <commandoline> wytsa: I don't think so, quickly is meant to be used by developers only, and why restrict them?
[17:03] <commandoline> 17:58:06 - wytsa: i have installed it and i have been trying to go through the getting started tut
[17:03] <commandoline> when i get to the 'edit the label' for tool buttons, and yes it does it for everything else i have checked, it does not allow it
[17:03] <commandoline> so im trying to figure out what i did wrong in the setup or whatever
[17:03] <commandoline> <- lets keep the discussion in the channel.
[17:03] <wytsa> np sorry
[17:03] <wytsa> i had someone yesterday that only wanted to talk out of channel
[17:04] <commandoline> well, this way others with more quickly experience can help :)
[17:04] <wytsa> again np
[17:05] <commandoline> because I'm afraid I don't know this detail. Not a quickly user myself.
[17:05] <wytsa> ahh
[17:05] <wytsa> im trying to get into app dev atm
[17:05] <wytsa> and was pointed at quickly since i know a bit of python
[17:06] <wytsa> i can work with java but i have no real exp with GUIs
[17:06] <stqn> IMO python is too slow, but that’s what canonical chose… I guess they wanted to lower the barrier to entry
[17:06] <wytsa> so trying to find a way to easly build them
[17:08] <wytsa> but anyway the main problem i have atm is that i can not edit any 'label' when editing in glade
[17:37] <commandoline> wytsa: a guess: it seems like those buttons and actions are linked in some way? (Just started glade for the first time ever, I'm a Qt fan :P)
[17:38] <commandoline> maybe if you update the action and link it in the right way, the text will appear? (again, completely guessing)
[17:38] <wytsa> the problem is the step im on for that is befor i even need to code anything for the button
[17:39] <wytsa> other than going through the setup for the button
[17:40] <wytsa> FYI im a student at western oregon uni
[17:40] <wytsa> trying to get back on my feet with programming
[17:42] <wytsa> ok sorry to do this but i have run out of time and need to log to get a few things done around here, i will be back later to check back