[04:03] <zagabar> jami: The second one? I tried to do it in the same manner as I did with eth1, so I put wlan0 as <IP_ADDRESS> and followed some guide on how to make it connectable. I found the wireless network card on my laptop and managed to connect, but I could not ping anything. Not even the wlan card.
[04:03] <zagabar> minimec: Okay, I'll try.
[04:03] <NotTooSmart> ryanCH, what ver of ubuntu are you on?
[04:04] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: hw intermittent problem? What issues are those?
[04:04] <PapiChi> I tried to play a flash game ("obledoble") V2.3.4 then upgraded my USB dangler and I still can't get the config sys V to run. What is the problem? Is the flash plugin broken? The error --> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[04:04] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: Is that some kind of hardware?
[04:04] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: loose connection, bad solder joint, marginal transistor on some chip somewhere, resistor or capacitor on the very edge of its tolerance range, ...
[04:04] <HTT-Bird> yeah, hw is short for hardware :)
[04:04] <zagabar> minimec: I got this: http://pastebin.com/mfdabed0
[04:05] <HTT-Bird> !ops PapiChi
[04:05] <fender68dg> I'm having trouble connecting to the net using the onboard wireless adapter on my laptop using ndiswrapper tells me its unable to see if hardware is present could someone help plz
[04:05] <HTT-Bird> !ops
[04:05] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird you rude little man
[04:05] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: oh, but is there a solution to this..?
[04:05] <jami> zagabar: paste ifconfig -a
[04:05] <HTT-Bird> LinuX2half: replace the drive probably
[04:06] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird you pass off your incompetence with saying "intermittent hardware problem"
[04:06] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird I find that reprehensible
[04:06] <LinuX2half> HTT-Bird: replace it? Why? I thought its fine...?
[04:06] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: I/O errors are usually hardware-related.
[04:06] <PapiChi> LinuX2half he has no idea what he is talking about. In fact, I think he's a troll
[04:06] <zagabar> jami: http://pastebin.com/m561ec601
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> PapiChi:  I Just noticed flash not working in firefox on facebook.. but GoogleChrome flash is working on facebook.. go figure..
[04:06] <HTT-Bird> LOLOLOLOLOL.
[04:06] <PapiChi> Dr_Willis thank you
[04:07] <NotTooSmart> [    1.344958] ata1.01: limited to UDMA/33 due to 40-wire cable
[04:07] <NotTooSmart>  what does this message mean????
[04:07] <HTT-Bird> NotTooSmart: grab an 80wire cable if you want UDMA/133 speeds
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> NotTooSmart:  you need a 80 pin ide cable perhaps..
[04:07] <PapiChi> NotTooSmart it means you have the wrong cable, you need an 80 wire
[04:07] <Snausages> NotTooSmart: you need a different cable to use the faster mode
[04:07] <PapiChi> 4 answers!
[04:07] <NotTooSmart> lol
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> all the same thing. :) get a new cable
[04:07] <NotTooSmart> how can I tell the dif im sure I got one?
[04:07] <minimec> zagabar: can you set 'sudo iwconfig eth1 mode ad-hoc'?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> and they say exactly what the error messge is basically saying.. :)
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> count the wires? :)
[04:08] <PapiChi> lol
[04:08] <Snausages> NotTooSmart: the 40-wire is a flat ribbon, the 80-wire looks like it's been braided.  It'll be labeled as 80-wire, and it will cost more :)
[04:08] <HTT-Bird> Dr_Willis: you know, that error message papi posted looks...not like an error message at all. :o (I have my suspicions about what he could be)
[04:08] <PapiChi> my 80 pins also have a different colour stripe on the ends
[04:08] <LinuX2half> I don't think replacing the drive should be a solution at all.
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> I got all facny 'round'  ide cables now.
[04:08] <maverick> how can i change the notification tray settings in xfce?
[04:09] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird hey now, let's not get nasty
[04:09] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: forgive me for asking, but where the heck did you get that error message from? console? syslog?
[04:09] <HTT-Bird> I simply don't recognize it >.>
[04:09] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird when I asked in #debian
[04:09] <LinuX2half> So the problem is how come the computer won't react to the inserted disc.
[04:09] <NotTooSmart> Dr_Willis, on an old machine, is it worth the new cable?
[04:10] <jami> zagabar: and now you want to communicate between eth1 and wlan0. both gatewac eth0?
[04:10] <PapiChi> NotTooSmart probably yes, it'll make a noticable difference in I/O
[04:10] <HTT-Bird> Dr_Willis: have you built a kernel recently btw?
[04:10] <zagabar> minimec: Same error about operation not supported. Isn't it the wlan0 that's supposed to have adhoc? Connecting other computers via cable to eth1 works.
[04:10] <LinuX2half> When I'm still using jaunty, they always pop up a blank CD or DVD
[04:10] <Snausages> NotTooSmart: it's probably the cheapest speed boost you could ever do on an old machine.
[04:10] <PapiChi> NotTooSmart plus, it's cheap
[04:10] <NotTooSmart> Snausages, alright thanks.
[04:10] <LinuX2half> Now its totally gone like the option for that is disabled.
[04:10] <PapiChi> as Snausages said
[04:10] <HTT-Bird> NotTooSmart: do you have a UDMA133 controller?
[04:10] <Dr_Willis> HTT-Bird:  not in 4+ years
[04:10] <LinuX2half> Is there something I should be aware about here?
[04:10] <HTT-Bird> if you do, then grab the 80wire cable and rock on
[04:10] <NotTooSmart> HTT-Bird, im not sure, its a machine I just for listening to music, its a dell dimension 2400
[04:11] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird I recently had to recompile a kernel. Why?
[04:11] <zagabar> jami: Yeah. I want to be able to connect computers wirelessly to wlan0 and wiredly to eth1 and then they should get internet connections.
[04:11] <HTT-Bird> Dr_Willis: because I am building a custom kernel for my box with CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM=n
[04:11] <jami> zagabar: if you have no access point you have to switch on adhoc mode
[04:11] <jgcampbell300> im going to add a bluetooth card to my gatway ms2252 notebook and was wondeing if anyone could suggest a good preforming card that ubuntu is cool with ?
[04:12] <HTT-Bird> and I want to know if I need to take any precautions to prevent that kernel from clobbering my existing one
[04:12] <NotTooSmart> I think it has a dma/100 controller
[04:12] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird nope
[04:12] <HTT-Bird> NotTooSmart: dma/100 should work over 40wire
[04:12] <zagabar> jami: on wlan0?
[04:12] <LinuX2half> how do I enable auto mount?
[04:12] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird they will co-exist happily, with NO suspect error messages
[04:12] <NotTooSmart> HTT-Bird, dunno its saying its configured for 33
[04:12] <LinuX2half> !mount
[04:12] <minimec> zagabar: That was for testing purposes. In ad-hoc mode, two computers can be connected together (That would be like a twisted pair wired connection). What kind of wifi device is that, as I know that not all devices are supporting all modes. Depends on the driver I think.
[04:12] <jami> zagabar: yes
[04:12] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird as long as your boot loader sees them both it's all good
[04:12] <Snausages> jg: the important bit is the chipset- the cambridge silicon chipset works perfectly with ubuntu.
[04:13] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: my concern is that when I install the new kernel, it will overwrite the old one :P lol
[04:13] <jgcampbell300> will ubuntu even use bluetooth ?
[04:13] <LinuX2half> how do enable auto mount?
[04:13] <HTT-Bird> and I won't have the old kernel available to me any longer
[04:13] <Snausages> jgcampbell300: yes, works fine for certain things, see my comment above
[04:13] <zagabar> minimec: I see. The device is a 01:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03)
[04:13] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird no, the old one is always there
[04:13] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird it's been that way since ... forever
[04:13] <zagabar> minimec: and I am using an XP driver.
[04:13] <jgcampbell300> Snausages oh sorry missed it ... thanks much
[04:13] <Snausages> jgcampbell300: I've used it for keyboards & mice without issue.  Looks like everything is in place for audio support, like a headset.  Other uses?   hmm, dunno
[04:14] <zagabar> jami: How can I turn on adhoc for wlan0 then?
[04:14] <HTT-Bird> well, PapiChi forgive me for my ignorance with respect to your issue...I thought you were asking about a bogus package or something
[04:14] <jgcampbell300> ya was gona try to use it with my mouse and iphone
[04:14] <Snausages> jgcampbell300: I've not personally attempted bluetooth audio in ubuntu.  I did research bluetooth tethering from my mobile phone, looked like a major pain.
[04:14] <HTT-Bird> and got really confused when I saw the error message :(
[04:14] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird I still have the utmost respect for you
[04:15] <jgcampbell300> kk thanks man
[04:15] <minimec> zagabar: Hmmm... You use ndiswrapper? I have no idea, if you can switch modes, using the WinXP driver.
[04:15] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: now to your issue :) what spat out that error message you pastebinned us? it looks quite bizarre
[04:16] <jgcampbell300> now im off to buy a hd and bluetooth card ... just cleaned my notebook for the first time and found extra hard drive bay and extra slot for BT card .. figgured i would fill it up while i can lol
[04:16] <zagabar> minimec: thats right
[04:16] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird could you remind us what the error message is?
[04:16] <HTT-Bird> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f76e82679
[04:16] <maverick> what is the xfce equivalent of the gconf-editor
[04:16] <Snausages> jgcampbell300: though it seems odd, you may do better with USB bluetooth...  there are tiny ones which only protrude from the usb ports by a couple mm
[04:16] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird oh, I'm afraid that is the wrong pastebin address
[04:17] <zagabar> minimec, jami : btw, I noticed something weird. When I restart the network it says "Failed to bring up wlan0." even though I can see it in ifconfig.
[04:17] <HTT-Bird> kk
[04:17] <NotTooSmart> PapiChi, HTT-Bird the red stripe indicates 80wire?
[04:17] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird it was http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7dae00e4 ... but dont' worry
[04:18] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird I have installed the old plugin
[04:18] <Snausages> NotTooSmart: nearly all cables have a red stripe, it's just to indicate pin #1 so you don't hook it up backwards
[04:18] <PapiChi> NotTooSmart sorry, without taking the cover off my box I can't remember :-) Google is your friend
[04:18] <jgcampbell300> ya this notebook only holds 3 usb ports and most of the time there filled .. accualy i would be saveing one port from the mouse
[04:18] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: ok. :) there we go, that looks more like a sane error message ;)
[04:18] <nellmathew> hey guys how do i load or reload ethernet modules from cli?
[04:18] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird actually, I must say I find that pastebin you posted quite rude
[04:19] <HTT-Bird> nellmathew: insmod/rmmod
[04:19] <nellmathew> thanks HTT-Bird
[04:19] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: which is exactly why I was wondering where the heck it came from in the first place. :)
[04:19] <HTT-Bird> nellmathew: modprobe and lsmod are helpful in your quest as wel
[04:19] <HTT-Bird> *well
[04:19] <Snausages> NotTooSmart: if the ribbon has all the wires perfectly parallel, it's 40wire.  If you see pairs of wires crossing each other in a repeating braid pattern, that's an 80-wire
[04:19] <jgcampbell300> well im off
[04:19] <PapiChi> Anyway, sometimes I wish the flash plugin was not a plugin but some kind of native code! Too bad HTML5 never addressed this
[04:20] <faileas> lol
[04:20] <faileas> PapiChi: HTML5 does replace some uses of flash with something native
[04:20] <clayg> how do I mount an iso?  I want to install a few iso's in wine
[04:20] <Jasonrj> Can anyone help me figure out why I'm having trouble launching my network manager? Errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/357870/
[04:20] <PapiChi> faileas yeah, but people still use the horror that is flash
[04:20] <zagabar> minimec: I tried "sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc" and that seemed to work. It didn't complain at least. It was eth1 who didn't want to change mode.
[04:20] <minimec> zagabar: wait... So you have three devices... wired eth0+1 and a wireless wlan0. I was wrong... ;) 'sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode master'
[04:20] <faileas> PapiChi: you mean abuse ;p
[04:20] <flexible> hey, i'm having an issue reinstalling ubuntu 9.10 - the installer will just randomly reboot during the install, but at different times...
[04:20] <HTT-Bird> PapiChi: no kidding, flash is both horror and abuse
[04:20] <PapiChi> faileas exactly. Probably mostly for the LSO cookies
[04:21] <flexible> it comes after GRUB killed itself and wouldn't load the operating system as well
[04:21] <Snausages> PapiChi: have you seen click2flash on mac os?  I want something like that for ubuntu, with regards to youtube
[04:21] <HTT-Bird> flexible: that sounds like hardware perhaps?
[04:21] <PapiChi> HTT-Bird agreed
[04:21] <PapiChi> Snausages hmm I haven't but I'll check it out
[04:21] <PapiChi> I could rant about flash for hours. I'd better stop ;)
[04:21] <flexible> HTT-Bird - possibly, but what would hardware and how do i test
[04:22] <Snausages> PapiChi: when you go to youtube with the c2f plugin installed, it extracts the root URL of the h.264 video and pipelines that into quicktime, bypassing flash altogether.
[04:22] <fvs> any undelete for ext4?
[04:22] <minimec> zagabar: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ndiswrapper/index.php?title=FAQ#Is_master_mode_or_promiscuous_mode_supported.3F
[04:22] <zagabar> minimec: Ah, okay. Yeah, I have three. Hmm that command failed. It says invalid argument.
[04:22] <PapiChi> Snausages ah, interesting. A bit hacky, but a solution
[04:22] <Snausages> PapiChi: it works so well you start thinking that flash is the "hacky" way :)
[04:23] <minimec> zagabar: master mode is not supported in ndiswrapper... So you can connect one more computer via wireless in ad-hoc mode.
[04:23] <Snausages> PapiChi: anyway, I want something like it for ubuntu, no dice yet
[04:23] <fvs> lost my angband savefile :(
[04:23] <HTT-Bird> Snausages: learn npapi and write it ;)
[04:24] <RobotCow> fvs photorec or testdisk maybe
[04:24] <faileas> Snausages: on the other hand, when HTML5 is wider spread... you wouldn't have to do that
[04:24] <zagabar> minimec: Aww, too bad. :/ Hm, what do you mean? Don't you mean "can't" and not "can"?
[04:24] <PapiChi> faileas I'm sure MS will break standards on the client side
[04:25] <faileas> PapiChi: MS is realising that they need to keep up ;p
[04:25] <Snausages> faileas: so what's holding it back?
[04:25] <faileas> besides, there's always flash as a fallback
[04:25] <fvs> RobotCow - disk is fine, computer overheated and cut out, but savefiile broke
[04:25] <LinuX2half> Computer isn't reacting to disc inserted.
[04:25] <duckwars> I have no idea where to even start to get my ssh speeds over my LAN faster.  Right now I only get 300KB/s over my LAN, when I can easily download 1MB/s over the internet... any thoughts?
[04:25] <faileas> Snausages: for one thing, there's a bit of arguement between ogg and h.264 iirc
[04:26] <HTT-Bird> duckwars: hmmm, does SSH rely on Nagling the way telnet does?
[04:26] <Snausages> faileas: weird...  why wouldn't it support * for video and plan for the browser to pipe it to whatever media system it already has?
[04:26] <faileas> Snausages: standards need to be... well standards. we wouldn't be in the mess with IE otherwise
[04:27] <duckwars> I'm not sure what Nagling is...
[04:27] <RobotCow> i updated my pidgin, and now the an icon doesn't show in the gnome-panel, nor does it show under the envelope icon
[04:27] <faileas> the idea is to have it done BY the browser
[04:27] <PapiChi> faileas exactly
[04:27] <Snausages> faileas: that's a lame idea.  I guess I'm done hoping for html 5 now
[04:27] <faileas> though the browser might have its own codec support
[04:27] <HTT-Bird> DuCkNeT: putc() a bunch of things into a socket ;) then you'll find out about nagling
[04:27] <PapiChi> We need enforceable standards with the death penalty as a penalty
[04:28] <faileas> Snausages: not really - how its implemented depends on the browser, but you WILL know any html5 browser WILL work with them
[04:28] <faileas> PapiChi: eh, first, you need to agree on a standard
[04:28] <minimec> zagabar: Check the mode of your wlan0 now. It should be in ad-hoc mode. IN that mode you can directly connect another wireless computer that is in ad-hoc mode too. If you want to connect to a router, you have to set the card in 'managed' mode. So you should be able to connect one wireless computer with your wlan0 in ad-hoc mode. That computer should be able to use the internet via eth0, if you set the routing right. wlan0 should have 19
[04:28] <Snausages> faileas: fair enough.  I want browsers that just passthru to my native media infrastructure.
[04:29] <PapiChi> faileas that's what the W3C is meant to be for
[04:29] <clayg> how do I mount an iso?  I want to install a few iso's in wine
[04:29] <HTT-Bird> !loop
[04:29] <PapiChi> mount on loopback
[04:29] <HTT-Bird> !loopback
[04:29] <Snausages> Well I reckon the computing world is 10+ years away from standardizing video codecs...  would hate to see html 5 get held up waiting.
[04:30] <PapiChi> faileas and bodies like ISO and IETF are there. It is about different corporations/bodies adhereing to their standards
[04:30] <HTT-Bird> Snausages: I'd like a standard container at least :) (that way the codec march of technology can continue going, without file format differences throwing another spanner into the works)
[04:30] <PapiChi> !ot | PapiChi
[04:31] <zagabar> minimec: Oh, I see. Yes it is in ad-hoc mode right now. However when I connect to it from my laptop I still cannot ping anyhing. Then something else is wrong. wlan0 should have 19 what? <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[04:31] <isolat3dsh33p> Guys, is there anyway I can change my user name?
[04:31] <HTT-Bird> zagabar: let it find an IP itself
[04:32] <HTT-Bird> zagabar: or use the <IP_ADDRESS> on your wlan0 and use like <IP_ADDRESS> on the other box, assuming /24 netmask
[04:32] <HTT-Bird> isolat3dsh33p: Ubuntu username?
[04:32] <Snausages> HTT-Bird: still sounds like a tall order...  it would have to be ridiculously open (therefore open to abuse) and would likely have to avoid carrying any kind of license at all, just to be compatible with enough other licenses to make it practical & popular
[04:33] <faileas> PapiChi: more or less. i'd point out someone managed to  make MS OpenXML a standard  ;p
[04:33] <isolat3dsh33p> HTT-Bird, yes I guess. The UserID 1000
[04:33] <Jasonrj> Can anyone help me figure out why I'm having trouble launching my network manager? Errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/357870/
[04:33] <PapiChi> faileas oh no. You hit upon the other thing I like to rant about ;)
[04:33] <HTT-Bird> Snausages: why would a container's license have anything to do with the licenses of the codecs used by the streams within that container?
[04:33] <paissad> there is no more alsaconf in ubuntu ?  ..... i 'm on karmic, what does replace it ?
[04:34] <clayg> how do I mount an iso?  I want to install a few iso's in wine
[04:34] <Snausages> HTT-Bird: guess I was thinking more about the browsers that open the containers, rather than the content inside them.
[04:34] <Xfact> what is the 'windows network' in Network folder? (or how it works?)
[04:34] <minimec> zagabar: The card of the computer that wants to connect to wlan has to be in ad-hoc mode too.. Your eth0 has <IP_ADDRESS> or something... right? So wlan0 must have something like <IP_ADDRESS> or something. You also need to enable masquerading... http://news.softpedia.com/news/Share-Internet-Connection-and-Set-up-Port-Forward-with-Guidedog-50091.shtml
[04:34] <HTT-Bird> !loopback | clayg
[04:34] <PapiChi> clayg you were told
[04:35] <buttons840> i have an ide raid card (must be fakeRaid, because i can see the individual drives in some circumstances); will it be possible to create a /boot outside of the regular raid?
[04:35] <HTT-Bird> isolat3dsh33p: man usermod
[04:35] <clayg> I appreciate it HTT-Bird
[04:35] <clayg> and PapiChi sorry, I didn't see the screen lit up
[04:35] <clayg> p
[04:35] <isolat3dsh33p> HTT-Bird, ok, thanks :)
[04:35] <PapiChi> clayg ok, sorry. It just hit 40C (104F) here. I'm a little grumpy ;)
[04:36] <paissad> there is no more alsaconf in ubuntu ?  ..... i 'm on karmic, what does replace it ?
[04:36] <Snausages> HTT-Bird: that said, the container would have to be open to all sorts of stuff inside it- multiple av streams, packaged proprietary drm schemes, all sorts of metadata and "infinite" forward extensibility
[04:36] <clayg> :)
[04:37] <wolfgangcs> need help with new installation and adding a home partition on second hdd
[04:37] <zagabar> minimec: Oh, so the two cards cannot be on the same subnet? I will try. I think masquerading is enabled... at least I can connect with computers to eth1.
[04:37] <maliks> does anyone know where should i go for any questions on ubuntu training
[04:37] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, are you using a standard install cd?
[04:38] <PapiChi> maliks right here
[04:38] <PapiChi> maliks just start using it, then asking
[04:38] <maliks> great. i am looking for a book to study ucp. any recommendations?
[04:38] <paissad> i have no more sound mates, i don't know why ... i think it's like that since i upgrade to 2.6.31-17 ubuntu kernel
[04:38] <paissad> i have no more sound mates, i don't know why ... i think it's like that since i upgrade to 2.6.31-17 ubuntu kernel
[04:38] <HTT-Bird> I'm outta here. :) gotta get some sleep
[04:38] <wolfgangcs> uttons840: ordered a  desktop from ubuntu
[04:38] <paissad> there is no more alsaconf in ubuntu ?  ..... i 'm on karmic, what does replace it ?
[04:39] <PapiChi> maliks heh, the last linux book I bought was regarding redhat 3.x ... a general book on linux should do the job though
[04:39] <yester64> hi
[04:39] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, i know how to set it up at install time, but not otherwise
[04:39] <maliks> ok. thanks PapiChi. 2nd question. I am already LPIC-1 certified. any point doing UCP now?
[04:40] <Tek-5-8-6> just installed a PCI SATA card and ubuntu did not install the drivers for it. How can I do this manualy?
[04:40] <minimec> zagabar: Yes... They have to be in a different subnet.
[04:40] <PapiChi> maliks I dunno. My only certs are my university degrees :)
[04:40] <wolfgangcs> buttons840: what if I did not use a partiton but just directed it to a folder on the 2nd hdd
[04:40] <yester64> i am happy :)
[04:41] <ViridianFire> AlsaMixer seems to have my headphone jack muted and wont let my change the volume, does anyone know how to fix this?
[04:41] <zagabar> minimec: Yay, it works! I have cinnected wirelessly now. =) Thanks. Are you sure btw that it won't work if I connect more computers wirelessly?
[04:41] <maliks> i am a certification freak :) thanks for your answer anyways
[04:42] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, i know you can set specific partitions to be mounted at boot, so you could set the 2nd drive to be mounted as /home and then the other (original?) drive to be root  /
[04:42] <Matir> Tek-5-8-6, every PCI SATA card I've seen is supported out of the box.  What kind of card is it?
[04:42] <buttons840> i don't know how to do this after the install, although i'm sure it's possible
[04:42] <Tek-5-8-6> Let me check mate
[04:42] <minimec> zagabar: Nice ;) You need a linux compatible device that can be switched in to master mode, as we stated above ...
[04:42] <PapiChi> maliks well, in that case, go for it!
[04:42] <ViridianFire> It has a green box with 2 zeros but no volume bar
[04:42] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, is there any reason not to do a fresh install?
[04:43] <zagabar> minimec: Alrgiht. But hey, I only have one computer capable of connecting wirelessly anyway! Thanks a lot for the help. =)
[04:43] <maliks> :) i sure will.. i guess my lpic-1 knowledge and a thorough review of UCP exam objectives would suffice. i gave the assessment exam online and got all correct.
[04:43] <wolfgangcs> buttons840:I don't see why not...let me switch machines on IRC so I can get this started...sound good?  and thanks!
[04:44] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, read here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-146713.html
[04:44] <Tek-5-8-6> Silicon Image Sil 3114
[04:44] <minimec> zagabar: np... Maybe ad-hoc mode will be lost after next boot. Yoe may have to configure the ad-hoc mode with the network-manager GUI.
[04:44] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, that thread shows someone sucessfully adding a second partition as /home after install
[04:44] <maliks> Papichi thanks for entertaining my questions. later
[04:45] <ViridianFire> In AlsaMixer there is no volume bar for my headphone jack?
[04:45] <PapiChi> maliks ciao
[04:45] <zagabar> minimec: I see. I cannot. I have command line only.
[04:45] <Tek-5-8-6> I have 3 drives connected ot it and these do not show up at all
[04:46] <Matir> Tek-5-8-6, odd... nothing about them in dmesg?
[04:46] <uman> how can I install the LaTeX fullpage package on ubuntu?
[04:46] <Jasonrj> Can anyone help me get network manager working? I removed the top panel that had the icon, and I cannot add the icon to any other panel because it does not show up in the list. Additionally I cannot launch it using the command nm-applet because I get these errors:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/357870/
[04:47] <Tek-5-8-6> Im a bit new mate, this is a terminal command yes?
[04:47] <Tek-5-8-6> I will check
[04:47] <wolfgangcs> buttons840:what would you recommendation for a install and home partitioning off a 40gb hdd?
[04:47] <minimec> zagabar: How did you configure the different cards? With iwconfig and ifconfig? If you did it like that, then the old debian way (configure /etc/network/interfaces) could be a solution for you, to make changes permanent.
[04:47] <ryanCH> i just noticed something very strange...
[04:48] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, i dunno, 20/20?
[04:48] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, you asking about sizes?
[04:48] <Tek-5-8-6> Matir: What should I be looking for ?
[04:48] <Matir> Tek-5-8-6, run the following commands and drop their output in http://pastebin.com/ if you don't mind: 'dmesg' 'sudo fdisk -l'
[04:48] <zagabar> minimec: Yeah, with those. Are all those commands reverted after a reboot?
[04:48] <ryanCH> i got onto my computer and i noticed my cpu usage is 40%... and i noticed tcpdump is running the cpu at that percentage, but it's being run as root.. i never even started tcpdump .. what is going on?
[04:49] <Tek-5-8-6> ok
[04:49] <wolfgangcs> buttons840:yeah I may just slap a bigger one in...but i don't want to lose what is on the second hdd yet
[04:49] <Tek-5-8-6> there is lots of stuff. Quite long. Will pate it to you
[04:49] <Matir> ryanCH, install any new software?
[04:49] <minimec> zagabar: Yes they are, but if you configure /etc/network/interfaces, the changes would be permanent.
[04:49] <ryanCH> Matir, no not recently..
[04:50] <wolfgangcs> buttons840:trying to decide to do a 20/20....but what I have in my dropbox is bigger than 20GB
[04:50] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, what happend to having 2 drives?
[04:50] <zagabar> minimec: Okay, I'll try to do that then, thanks.^^
[04:50] <minimec> zagabar: again... no problem ;)
[04:50] <merc3nary> what does it mean if ubuntu won't install. just stays at the kernel compiler awaiting input?
[04:50] <wolfgangcs> buttons840:I have drivers and media on the second hdd and not ready to format yet
[04:51] <wolfgangcs> buttons840:and the linux transfer rates are so much slower than windoze...at least from what I can tell
[04:51] <Matir> ryanCH, I'd be curious to see the output of ps -ef, to see what may have started tcpdump
[04:51] <buttons840> wolfgangcs, must be a config problem, there is no reason linux should be slower
[04:52] <ryanCH> Matir, i just terminated it a few seconds ago (tcpdump)
[04:52] <Matir> ryanCH, ah
[04:53] <ryanCH> Matir, what do you think it could be?
[04:53] <Bakefy> Hello everyone!
[04:54] <Matir> ryanCH, hard to say.  Are there any programs you ever use that might have started it?  Any network/packet analyzers, etc?
[04:54] <Bakefy> I have a question reguarding putting ubuntu on my ps3, but no one seems to be on the #ubuntu-ps3 channel
[04:55] <Bakefy> Anyone here tried putting ubuntu on their ps3 before?
[04:55] <ryanCH> Matir, i do use tcpdump every now and then.. but i never leave it running nor do i run it as root ;p
[04:55] <infid> how can i share my Music folder in ubuntu 9.10?
[04:56] <ComputerNoobie> hey... my main goal is to get paid. i am plannign on getting certified in redhat, but my heart says mcse. does it make sense to assume that most companies using linux is because they can't afford microsoft, and since they cant afford microsoft, its also safe to assume that they wont pay as much as companies who use microsoft? so by this logic, from a money perspective, i should go for msce instead of redhat
[04:56] <ryanCH> Matir, could this be some sort of automated task? can i find out if it is?
[04:56] <faileas> ComputerNoobie: the logic is flawed
[04:56] <faileas> people use MS cause they are used to it
[04:56] <faileas> lots of big companies use linux, cause its what they want to use
[04:56] <sync3times> People are used by MS
[04:56] <maco> ComputerNoobie: nah, many companies use linux because of the stability and are willing to pay a premium for sysadmins who know it
[04:56] <faileas> hell MS claims linux ois more expensive :)
[04:56] <uman> ComputerNoobie: Google uses Linux
[04:57] <Matir> ryanCH, tcpdump is most often used as root... you could look and see if there's anything in /etc/cron.* for cronjobs
[04:57] <maco> ComputerNoobie: mcse's are a dime a dozen. people who know linux well enough that in a pinch they can be useful on aix or solaris, though? *useful*!
[04:57] <sync3times> ryanCH, what is the parent process of your tcpdump.
[04:57] <faileas> maco: that too. linux skills are suprisingly portable after a point ;)
[04:58] <maco> (*cough* not that i've been told to do development work on aix on the basis of my linux skills or anything... *cough*)
[04:58] <Bubblehead> Also allot of companies that are using Linux is because they used Unix and if you need database service MS SQL is not an answer.
[04:58] <PapiChi> If you are developing the platform should be irrelevant. You either have the skills or you don't. Sys adminning is a whole different proposition
[04:59] <ViridianFire> My headphone jack doesnt work and I dont have a clue why, can anyone help?
[04:59] <uman> Bubblehead: Of course it isn't. MS Access is the answer. Duh.
[04:59] <uman> Bubblehead: (True story where I worked last summer)
[04:59] <Bakefy> I installed ubuntu 9.10 on my PS3 using petitboot.  I am not seeing a hard drive after installing... anyone know what I am talking about?
[04:59] <Bubblehead> uman -- LOL and ouch
[05:01] <paragonc> howdy - i dont have a dvd reader and i want to install ubuntu - i have the .iso and a 5GB partition - im currently running ubuntu 8.04 - is there a way to tell grub to treat a partition like a boot cd?
[05:01] <ViridianFire> Okay so my headphone jack doesnt work, neither my headphones nor speakers are reciveing a signal form it under ubuntu, under windows they work fine
[05:01] <ChappiPi> hmm
[05:01] <Jasonrj> How can I restart the gui without restarting the whole computer? I seem to remember from a linux class I took a long time ago that there was a way to do that. Like by hitting Ctrl + Alt + F1 and then typing a command there?
[05:01] <ChappiPi> The freenode admins didn't like my platform neutral comments ;)
[05:01] <daftykins> Jasonrj: ctrl+alt+f1 sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:02] <daftykins> or of it's karmic, sudo service gdm restart
[05:02] <infid> is it safe to share ~/Music or will it potentially make it so other users can access any file in your home dir?
[05:02] <Serpher> Jasonrj: It's changed a bit in 9.10: $sudo restart gdm
[05:02] <e_losier> I'm trying to install server ubuntu 9.10.  But it always either fail while partitioning or when installing base system (a perl deb corrupted).  I burned the CD twice, second time at 1X.  both verifies OK.  Any idea?
[05:02] <Serpher> jasonrj: Otherwise use $sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[05:02] <Jasonrj> Thanks
[05:02] <daftykins> there's that echo problem in here back again ^_^
[05:02] <sync3times> e_losier, is this the first linux install for this machine?
[05:02] <Serpher> np
[05:03] <e_losier> Yes, it's brand new.
[05:03] <sync3times> e_losier, what processor?
[05:03] <pauljw> ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't restart x anymore
[05:03] <ArielMT> hello.  how do i find out which packages apt-get upgrade installed and when?  my load average has been at least 4.00 since friday, and i don't know why.  ubuntu 9.04
[05:03] <pauljw> ??
[05:03] <sync3times> pauljw, they turn that off in ubuntu
[05:04] <ArielMT> also, i suspect an update as the cause, but i don't know which one(s)
[05:04] <Serpher> You can instlal something called dontzap to use that hotkey to restart your gdm using hotkeys
[05:04] <sync3times> pauljw, you can ctrl-alt-f1 and login in and restart gdm
[05:04] <Serpher> Google it, I think it won't work untill you restart your ocmputer though
[05:05] <e_losier> sync3time : AMD PHENOM X4 9650
[05:05] <sync3times> e_losier,   hmm,  is there an AMD server version?  are you installing that one?
[05:08] <infid> to share my ~/Music folder should i right-click on it and choose 'share' using windows networks sharing service, or should i use smbfs?
[05:09] <ChappiPi> hmm the Chinese gov't hacked my pr0n directory
[05:09] <Tek-5-8-6> lol
[05:09] <Jasonrj> Added block blur all over?
[05:09] <ChappiPi> horny little dudes
[05:09] <ChappiPi> !ot ChappiPi
[05:09] <happy> !language | ChappiPi :-P
[05:10] <Dextronaught> which version of Skype should I get?
[05:10] <Dextronaught> since most ppl complain about problems
[05:10] <uman> Jasonrj: hahahahaha
[05:10] <ChappiPi> happy good point
[05:10] <e_losier> sync3time : the iso is called "ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso" ...
[05:10] <ChappiPi> besides, it wasn't the Chinese. It was me.
[05:11] <Dextronaught> which version of Skype should I get?
[05:11] <ChappiPi> Dextronaught I may be going out on a limb here, but how about the one in the repos?
[05:11] <Dextronaught> what do you mean repos?
[05:12] <ChappiPi> Dextronaught I think I'll bow out of this one. Ask again
[05:12] <ardchoille> !repos
[05:12] <ardchoille> Dextronaught: ^^
[05:12] <Dextronaught> Oo :o
[05:13] <maverick> how can i get to the notification settings as shown in this screenshot?? http://goodies.xfce.org/projects/applications/notification-daemon-xfce
[05:13] <ardchoille> Dextronaught: that is why I haven't had to compile anything in the 5 years that I've used Ubuntu :)
[05:14] <ardchoille> maverick: That looks like it's specific to the xfce desktop
[05:14] <ChappiPi> Dextronaught in console (terminal, whatever you want to call it) "sudo apt-get install skype"
[05:15] <maverick> ardchoille: well, it is
[05:15] <ardchoille> maverick: are you running xfce?
[05:15] <maverick> ardchoille: yes
[05:15] <ChappiPi> although I'm sure the hardcore GUIers will lead you to synaptic :)
[05:15] <ardchoille> maverick: Then you need to ask in #xubuntu
[05:15] <maverick> ardchoille: thanks
[05:15] <ardchoille> yw
[05:16] <ChappiPi> Dextronaught feel free to thank me at your leisure
[05:18] <Jasonrj> Can anyone help me get my network manager working? I removed the panel that had the icon, and for some reason it does not show up as something I can add to any of the other panels. When trying the nm-applet command I get these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/357870/
[05:18] <iqbal1> test
[05:18] <ckhikuzad_> how am i in here!? god my modem is so retarded
[05:18] <LinuX2half> can I burn an iso image to a DVD?
[05:19] <ardchoille> The notifications bubbles that popup in the upper right corner in KArmix. How can I theme those?
[05:19] <ChappiPi> jasonb it's running. Kill it. "sudo killall nm-applet"
[05:19] <ardchoille> LinuX2half: yes
[05:19]  * jasonb blinks
[05:19] <astrojp> Anyone know how to get the iPod Shuffle 'Model A1271' to work on Ubuntu? GTKpod doesn't seem to recognize it.
[05:19] <ChappiPi> jasonb sorry pappy
[05:19] <ChappiPi> Jasonrj it's running. Kill it. "sudo killall nm-applet"
[05:20] <iqbal1> this is the first time i join to this room
[05:20] <ardchoille> !hcl | astrojp check the HCL for possible tricks on that
[05:20] <LinuX2half> how do I run md5sum
[05:21] <ardchoille> LinuX2half: md5sum filename
[05:21] <ChappiPi> LinuX2half well, you are pretty close already ...
[05:21] <astrojp> thanks ubottu :)
[05:21] <ardchoille> !Thanks
[05:22] <LinuX2half> so if the image is ubuntu_karmic_1386.iso, then I'll type the name of the file along with md5sum?
[05:22] <duckwars> doesw anyone know what changing GSSAPIKeyExchange no to GSSAPIKeyExchange yes will do.  It is in ssh_config
[05:22] <ardchoille> LinuX2half: md5sum/path/ubuntu_karmic_1386.iso
[05:22] <triddle> dmesg | egrep -i “sound|audio|snd” <=- What does this message do, and what does it mean if the results are nothing?
[05:23] <ardchoille> LinuX2half: sorry, forgot the space: md5sum /path/ubuntu_karmic_1386.iso
[05:23] <ChappiPi> ardchoille lucky. He was about to ask again ;)
[05:23] <ardchoille> I figured that :)
[05:23] <LinuX2half> Then what do I type if the image is located in my download folder?
[05:24] <ardchoille> It's this silly keyboard, it prints what I type instead of what I meant
[05:24] <ardchoille> LinuX2half: That's the "/path" bit
[05:24] <Jasonrj> ChappiPi: I killed it, then tried running it, I still cannot run it. Instead of getting an error it just does nothing when I type the command
[05:24] <buttons840> i installed ubuntu in a computer with a pentium 4 (single core of course), and it shows cpu1 and cpu2 in the system monitor?
[05:24] <ardchoille> LinuX2half:  md5sum ~/Downloads/ubuntu_karmic_1386.iso  ?
[05:24] <Myke1> @buttons could be a HT Pentium 4?
[05:25] <ChappiPi> Jasonrj uh ok. Try "killall nm-applet; nm-applet &"
[05:25] <buttons840> Myke1, maybe, but it's 2.6 ghz and i thought only 3ghz plus were ht?
[05:25] <ChappiPi> Jasonrj then "ps aux | grep nm-applet" for giggles
[05:25] <Myke1> @ buttons: Hyperthreaded cores show up as 2 cores, even though HT is one real core and one virtual
[05:25] <Myke1> hmmm
[05:26] <duckwars> can anyone help me do better than 300KB/s transfer between me and my home server? I am on the same network as the other computer but I only get 300KB/s.  This is lame
[05:26] <iflema> jasonrj try this... might work nm-applet --sm-disable
[05:26] <minimec> buttons840: I had that surprice a few weeks ago. You have one of these hyperthreading versions of the pentium 4. It simulates a dualcore. I installed ubuntu for a friend a few weeks ago... ;)
[05:26] <NotTooSmart> dmesg | grep ata
[05:26] <NotTooSmart>  says im using a 40-wire cable but im sure im not, how do I fix this?
[05:26] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart like before; use an 80 pin cable
[05:27] <Myke1> Yeah Buttons, I see a 2.6Ghz HT core on the list of CPUs
[05:27] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, i switched it to an 80 wire....
[05:27] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart ah ok. You are *sure* you are using an 80 pin ...
[05:27] <buttons840> Myke1, heh, good to know i guess thanks for the pleasent news
[05:27] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, it looks just like the 80pin shown here... http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable80-c.html
[05:27] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart are you also sure your hd is capable of whatever UDMA you are going for?
[05:28] <Myke1> No problem, Enjoy :)
[05:28] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart checked with hdparm?
[05:28] <Jasonrj> Ok, I can now kill nm-applet. But I still cannot run it. I typed everything you guys suggested but all gives the same result: nothing. Typing nm-applet into the terminal or after hitting Alt+F2 simply does nothing. In the terminal it goes down to the next line, but does not bring back the prompt, so I cannot do anything else.
[05:28] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart and finally, your controller might not be capable of handling the 80 pin and reverts to 40
[05:29] <LinuX2half> Then is it possible to burn an iso9660 image?
[05:29] <ChappiPi> Jasonrj what do you get when you type "ps aux |grep nm-applet" ?
[05:29] <ardchoille> jasonb: I was under the impression that an applet was something you needed to add to the panel in order to use
[05:29] <Flare-Laptop> Jasonrj: its a applet that goes on the gnome-panel
[05:29] <ardchoille> I thought so
[05:29] <ardchoille> Thank you Flare-Laptop
[05:29] <ChappiPi> er yeah, that too :)
[05:30] <Flare-Laptop> :)
[05:30] <Jasonrj> I know, my original problem was that I deleted the panel that contained it. I then could not add it to any other panel because it did not show up in the list. Someone advised I type the command nm-applet and I was getting errors
[05:30] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, well, its a dimension 2400 the web says it can do udma 100
[05:30] <bernie1> hello world
[05:31] <Jasonrj> ChappiPi, I get  "jason    2238  0.0  0.3   3036   792 pts/0     R+   13:30    ):00 grep  - -color=au to nm-applet"
[05:31] <Voss> nottoosmart, basically you have an ide hard drive.
[05:31] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart hmm, ok. Have you looked at the hd itself and seen if you have to move the jumpers on it?
[05:32] <ChappiPi> Voss and that's the next area of inquiry :)
[05:32] <Voss> ata is ide
[05:32] <NotTooSmart> its an SATAII hd through an adapter.. im sure it can do faster than 33mb/sec
[05:32] <NotTooSmart> [    1.337154] ata1.01: ATA-8: WDC WD3200AAKS-00L9A0, 01.03E01, max UDMA/133
[05:32] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart I'm thinking the adapter could be the problem maybe then
[05:32] <buttons840> "silicon has just about reached it's limits as far as heat and electricity are concerned."  <- from a 2005 hardware forum discussing the amazing new duel-core processors, and speculating on whether something crazy like a "quad-core" might be possible :)
[05:33] <Voss> 33mbs is the limit through a pci card I believe,
[05:33] <NotTooSmart> its not a pci card though.
[05:33] <NotTooSmart> it just hooks on to ide cable
[05:33] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart got any info on the adapter?
[05:33] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, hrm. one minute
[05:34] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119257&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Adapters+and+gender+changers-_-Rosewill-_-12119257
[05:35] <LinuX2half> I'm having problem with k3b
[05:35] <ChappiPi> Jasonrj you could always admit defeat and reinstall networkmanager ...
[05:35] <LinuX2half> Can't burn the image because of an error code 254
[05:35] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, I really did switch the cable... im not sure why its not working right..
[05:35] <Darkedge> Can someone tell me lightweight alternitives to the following, Firefox, Evolution, Irssi, and basicly everything that should be changed in Ubuntu 9.04
[05:36] <blakkheim> Darkedge: uhh what's not lightweight about irssi?
[05:36] <LinuX2half> Is anyone familiar with this?
[05:36] <kinja-sheep> Darkedge: Xubuntu? Lubuntu? Don't use any metapackages.
[05:36] <obiwan_> please 1 question, is there any kind of privilege to access other users files based on the id number? for example, having a higher id than one user, or lower? thanks
[05:36] <ardchoille> LinuX2half:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2877869
[05:36] <yoyoma> light web browser = dillo
[05:36] <Jasonrj> ChappiPi: I guess... I just think it's weird that it was there and working fine, I removed the panel that contained it, and now it is forever broken?
[05:37] <buttons840> Darkedge, just use telnet for irc if you want something ligther than irssi :)
[05:37] <Darkedge> blakkheim: uhm someone told me yesturday irssi was a big resource hog, and was firefox
[05:37] <faileas> lol
[05:37] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart hmm, well it should do the right speeds. I really don't know. Maybe someone else can figure it out
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  compared to other apps.. i doubt if irssi is using much resources
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  try weechat I guess.
[05:37] <blakkheim> Darkedge: irssi is a commandline irc client, it is FAR from a resource hog. your "friend" has no idea what he's talking about
[05:37] <kinja-sheep> Darkedge: Firefox. Sure. irssi? I'd be surprised if it is.
[05:37] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, idk, maybe it is the wire...
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  thers opera and google-chrome browser as alterantives
[05:37] <blakkheim> Darkedge: although i concede to the fact that firefox is bloated. it is.
[05:37] <ardchoille> LinuX2half: here's another one: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/i-cant-burn-data-cds-or-isos-with-k3b-error-code-254-wtf-193324/
[05:38] <Darkedge> OK Then can someone tell me some good alternitives > Firefox then cause that does seem to hog.
[05:38] <faileas> Darkedge: i use a system with swiftfox (its a lighter firefox build) though there's a load of good light web browsers like arora. If you need a good light graphical irc client, go for lostirc
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  thers opera and google-chrome browser as alterantives
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  and disable flash
[05:38] <ChappiPi> Jasonrj ok, well I'm flying blind here because I use wicd over networkmanager
[05:39] <kinja-sheep> Darkedge: epiphany-browser, opera, chrome, midori,
[05:39] <ardchoille> Darkedge: as Dr_Willis stated, opera and chrome are both quite fast here
[05:39] <faileas> Dr_Willis: eh, if you don't need flash, pretty much any semi modern browser would be great
[05:39] <iWolf> For Wubi Do I Select My C: Drive?
[05:39] <lxaaaa> I lost my desktop taskbars in a crash.  How do I get them back?
[05:39] <Darkedge> I might try chrome, Is it in the repos?
[05:39] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, is this the right one? http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004Z5PZ/ref=ord_cart_shr?_encoding=UTF8&m=A3TWH6Q6VO6EQF&v=glance
[05:39] <ardchoille> fwiw, opera no longer needs tons of kde libs
[05:39] <Voss> supposedly firefox 3.6 is much less of a memory hog
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  google has its own repos for  the latest versions
[05:40] <ardchoille> Darkedge: chrome.google.com
[05:41] <Dr-Digi__> Im kinda new to ubuntu im using a live cd and attempting to view some files fro
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> Theres just a few things about chrome that cause me issues.. and keep me using firefox at times
[05:41] <faileas> Dr_Willis: until recently lack of adblock was one for me ;p
[05:41] <Dr-Digi__> m my dead mac
[05:41] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart that's a 40 pin isn't it?
[05:41] <ChappiPi> faileas noscript is one for me
[05:41] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, can you show me the one I need?
[05:42] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart in a word? no
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> faileas:  even with adblock - i still have a few sites that have Popups on Chrome - that DONT happen on firefox.. those pesky tiorrent sites. :)
[05:42] <Darkedge> ardchoille: Right when I delete Firefox -_- Can someone tell me how to install google chrome...
[05:42] <Dr-Digi__> Is there anything special i need to do in order to view them in the gui?
[05:42] <ChappiPi> Dr_Willis well Chrome "adblock" doesn't block - it hides
[05:42] <ardchoille> Darkedge: download the chrome package and : sudo dpkg -i filename
[05:42] <iWolf> Dr-Digi__, I believe you can't get files from a LiveCD from your mac
[05:43] <iflema> jasonrj the erros indicate its still running?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> Been mixxing in privoxy with chrome and gettting some better results.. but pately ive seen wjhere Privoxy is crashing on me in 9.10
[05:43] <Darkedge> :( I need to get the link to the package, I gotta use wget now.
[05:43] <ChappiPi> Until there is addons for noscript/flashblock (or I write them) Chrome is a no go
[05:43] <ardchoille> Darkedge: chrome adds a file to your sources that keeps the browser updated
[05:43] <ChappiPi> Dr_Willis yeah, I was doing the privoxy way for a while
[05:44] <Dr-Digi__> Any chance i could install on a 4 gb cf?
[05:44] <Darkedge> ardchoille: I need the link to the dpkg file, I deleted firefox.
[05:44] <ardchoille> Darkedge: I don't think you can do that, you have to agree to a license page before downloading it
[05:44] <Dr-Digi__> Or somehow use it with the live cd for the updatez and save settinfs ect?
[05:44] <iWolf> Dr-Digi__, 4GB Is Required For An Install Of Ubuntu 9.10
[05:44] <faileas> Darkedge: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa i use this repo
[05:44] <Darkedge> -_- I can't use Firefox lol
[05:45] <Darkedge> *reinstalls firefox*
[05:45] <ChappiPi> I seriously don't understand how people can browse without NoScript. Scary :)
[05:45] <ardchoille> Darkedge: was just going to advise that :)
[05:45] <Voss> iwolf 4gb of disk space not 4gb of memory :)
[05:45] <iWolf> Oops
[05:45] <ardchoille> Darkedge: Also, chrome can import firefox bookmarks and settings
[05:45] <iWolf> Thought he said disk space
[05:45] <faileas> Darkedge: eh, if you want to stick to firefox http://getswiftfox.com/ is a LOT faster than the ubuntu default builds
[05:45] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart if you look yourself and really can't find the right one I'll help
[05:45] <LinuX2half> BRB
[05:46] <syn-ack> ChappiPi: I can since my firewall/Gateway takes care of all that BS
[05:46] <Dr-Digi__> I have a 4 gb cf empty and i got 8 gigs of ram
[05:46] <syn-ack> :P
[05:46] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, the problem is man, im pretty sure judging by the picture I showed you earlier, that I do have the right  cable connected already.....
[05:46] <Voss> I have installed 9.10 on netbooks with 512mb of memory and a 4gb flash drive
[05:46] <ChappiPi> syn-ack your firewall/gateway isn't going to take care of javascript
[05:46] <ardchoille> The only thing I don't like about chrome is that google's theme department must be color blind
[05:46] <Darkedge> OK I'll do that, can you guys umm tell me how to get the most cutting-edge intel driver?
[05:46] <Dr-Digi__> I saw the files on the mac hd for a split second and it all disapperwd
[05:46] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart but that one even said "40 pin"
[05:47] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to get the status of a RAID 5 array?
[05:47] <syn-ack> ChappiPi: Sure it does. it blocks javaScript quite well
[05:47] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, if you can just show me a picture of the right one ill be set ;-d
[05:47] <Bakefy> Has anyone here installed ubuntu on a ps3?
[05:47] <quentusrex> it didn't mount when the machine came back up...
[05:47] <quentusrex> and it says the resource is busy
[05:47] <Dr-Digi__> This is a quad core gateway i got for free
[05:47] <Voss> ideally you would prefer at least 8gb of ssd or hard drive space
[05:47] <iWolf> Dr-Digi__, Wow
[05:47] <Jasonrj> iflema: I guess it was already running, it killed it with the killall command. I don't know how to add it to the panel though because it was not in the list of items I could add anymore. Someone suggested reinstalling, so I'm trying to figure out how to do that now. This is where I usually give up and forget Linux for a year or two :\
[05:47] <iWolf> Dr-Digi__, I'm using a Gateway
[05:47] <keepsake> Is it worth it for me to try to up my ext3 fs to ext4?
[05:48] <iWolf> Dr-Digi__, Anyways, you have more than enough RAM/disk space to install Ubuntu
[05:48] <iflema> jasonrj hit this a few times in a row quick using ya bash history ' nm-applet --sm-disable ' itll knock it out and restart,,,,, slapit around. without sudo
[05:48] <ChappiPi> syn-ack no, I mean the point is not a blanket ban of javascript, it is to selectively run it on certain sites (whitelist) and only the scripts you choose
[05:48] <daftykins> does anyone have any experience with LIRC? i want to try and identify the hex code to accompany an unsupported button on my fully working remote control
[05:48] <iWolf> For Wubi Do I Select My C: Drive?
[05:48] <Dr-Digi__> Iwolf then why doesnt it ever seem to finish?
[05:48] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, http://www.xpcgear.com/idecable18.html
[05:48] <ChappiPi> syn-ack if you are going to block it all you might as well disable it in your browser
[05:49] <Jasonrj> iflema: I tried that and it kept doing nothing. I have already uninstalled it.. Now I'm trying to figure out how to install this thing again.
[05:49] <syn-ack> ChappiPi: well, Then the lil checkbox in my firewall must be a lie
[05:49] <Voss> I bought a refurb EEEpc 901 for $129 and put 9.04 ubuntu on it but ill probably wind up putting chrome on it this year
[05:49] <ardchoille> syn-ack: what firewall?
[05:50] <lxaaaa> I lost my desktop taskbars in a crash.  How do I get them back?
[05:50] <syn-ack> ardchoille: DD-WRT... more or less iptables when it comes down to it
[05:50] <LinuX2half> okay now I receive the message that it can't open a new session
[05:50] <LinuX2half> How can I resolve that kind of problem?
[05:50] <Dr-Digi__> Any chance i could get someone to remote desktop in?
[05:50] <keepsake> lxaaaa: By taskbar do you mean panel?
[05:50] <ChappiPi> syn-ack I'm not arguing the point that you can stop all javascript. I'm saying you don't want to do that. You want to be able to whitelist certain scripts
[05:50] <Dr-Digi__> I like pfsense myself
[05:50] <LinuX2half> Anyone here is familiar with k3b?
[05:50] <lxaaaa> keepsake: yes
[05:50] <ardchoille> syn-ack: I don't even bother with a firewall, not needed for my system
[05:50] <ChappiPi> I like ipf ... any other takers?
[05:50] <namzezam> what is iee3 1394 in kino , how to capture in ubuntu?
[05:50] <LinuX2half> I've just stumbling on  the errors now
[05:51] <Bakefy> anyone here install on ps3?
[05:51] <keepsake> lxaaaa: http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[05:51] <LinuX2half> first of all, I gave the program sudo power to operate at the interior level
[05:51] <lxaaaa> keepsake: thanks
[05:51] <LinuX2half> But it said that the mftios crashed
[05:51] <keepsake> lxaaaa: That'll reset your panels, you'll have to re-customize them.
[05:51] <LinuX2half> Unbelievable
[05:51] <syn-ack> ChappiPi: You're gonna have to forgive me. I took my meds so I'm REALLY fscking loopy right now. wasnt trying to argue just now "clicked"
[05:51] <Voss> ard, most of us just use hardware firewalls anyway
[05:52] <ChappiPi> syn-ack it's all good. :)
[05:52] <namzezam> what is iee3 1394 in kino , how to capture in ubuntu?
[05:52] <LinuX2half> I'm trying to burn a disc image and the program is producing these errors that suppose to tell me whats going on but actually only bewilders me more
[05:52] <namzezam> can i record vid in ubuntu ?
[05:52] <syn-ack> Voss: All firewalls are software. :P regardless if they are an appliance or not. :P
[05:52] <syn-ack> Voss: and THAT one was to bust the boys if you know what I mean. :D
[05:52] <gbear14275> can anyone tell me what appears to be happening in this error message?  I'm stumped http://paste.ubuntu.com/357892/
[05:52] <LinuX2half> Is anyone familiar with k3b program?
[05:52] <iWolf> namzezam: Via Cheese I Think
[05:52] <keepsake> syn-ack: Unless you have a real flaming wall =O
[05:53] <syn-ack> keepsake: HOW DID YOU KNOW?!?! :P
[05:53] <LinuX2half> I'm suppose I don't have to go to the kde channel to resolve such issue now would I?
[05:53] <syn-ack> LinuX2half: what about it?
[05:53] <Voss> syn-ack, lets put it this way, a firewall not in the computer
[05:53] <LinuX2half> well, I suppose I could...
[05:53] <syn-ack> Voss: I was kidding. :P
[05:53] <Bakefy> playstation 3... anyone install ubuntu on it?
[05:53] <ardchoille> LinuX2half: #kubuntu might know of an answer
[05:53] <ChappiPi> does my 1000H EEPC running openbox with ipf, and acting as a gateway count as a "hardware firewall"? :)
[05:53] <syn-ack> What was the amaroK question
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> !ps3
[05:54] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart sorry, I'll look now
[05:54] <LinuX2half> okay see ya
[05:54] <Bakefy> Getting hit with bots... great
[05:54] <syn-ack> Ugh holy hell, I was trying to hell him!
[05:54] <Voss> chappi, no it counts as a popcorn popper
[05:54] <Bakefy> crickets in the other channels
[05:54] <ChappiPi> Voss bzzt
[05:55] <flexible> Hey, after formatting my drives, i reinstalled Ubuntu 9.10 and it will not boot, i get "GRUB loading.|error: no such disk|grub rescue> _".... i reformatted because grub was failing to boot (seemingly randomly) to my 9.10 partition... help?
[05:55] <namzezam> i ave accer aspire one, i did cheese but i did not get the audio but noise and also gut it with strange colors, please let me know what should i install , i do have vlc and have problem with the audio to , only on pulse it works but then with noise again, and that kino thing, well this never let me actully rerding
[05:55] <ChappiPi> I'll let you in on a secret about hardware firewalls. They run software.
[05:55] <syn-ack> Voss your first name doesnt happen to be Rich, does it?
[05:55] <ChappiPi> shocking, but true
[05:55] <monchevique> hi
[05:55] <Voss> no syn
[05:55] <ChappiPi> or ever firmware
[05:56] <namzezam> it must be simple, where in one functuning manual for ubuntu 9.10 for recording vid on acer aspire one?
[05:56] <syn-ack> Voss: bah. :p
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> namzezam:  ive noticed on my AAO webcam odd colors if im under some specific kinds of lights. at work under mercery lights its got a greenish tint. but in the office under floresant  - it looks normal..
[05:56] <monchevique> why does it say that i havent registrered my nickname when i have?
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> namzezam:  other then that - iove no issues ion my AAO with the UNR edition,.
[05:56] <Dr_Willis> monchevique:  did you identify when you connected?
[05:57] <syn-ack> Dr_Willis: which is normal when you think about it
[05:57] <monchevique> yes
[05:57] <ChappiPi> NotTooSmart yeah, that one looks right
[05:57] <NotTooSmart> ChappiPi, alright thanks tty.
[05:57] <flexible> Hey, after formatting my drives, i reinstalled Ubuntu 9.10 and it will not boot, i get "GRUB loading.|error: no such disk|grub rescue> _".... i reformatted because grub was failing to boot (seemingly randomly) to my 9.10 partition... help?
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> syn-ack:  Yep.  Just made me think my AAO was broken once when i tried it at work. :)   its got a REAL weird color differance in the differance lights.. but they are Industural High power Merc. lamps. (or argon, or whatever they are)
[05:58] <syn-ack> Dr_Willis: heheh
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> syn-ack:  gotta love lamps with a 2 ft long light bulb. :)
[05:58] <syn-ack> hah
[05:59] <ChappiPi> Dr_Willis hmm, I think they have you working under hydroponic grow lamps
[05:59] <namzezam> i have prob with the audion, pulse and vlc do not like each other i try hw:0,0 and then have no sound, i think i should kill something and un instll it or so, where cn i find nice tutirial for it?
[05:59] <troopperi> flexible: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1359802
[06:00] <ChappiPi> I use crunchbang (ubuntu derived) on my netbook, for what it's worth
[06:00] <ChappiPi> it's both crunchy, yet bangy
[06:01] <Voss> chappi, I use mint 8 on my notebook its also ubuntu derived
[06:01] <PappiChi> Voss working nicely on it?
[06:02]  * Dr_Willis uses Ubuntu.. its ubuntu derived....
[06:02] <Voss> Yep
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> and Full of Vitiman U
[06:02] <Voss> Mint 8 is based on ubuntu 9.10
[06:02] <flexible> Voss: is Mint good?
[06:02]  * Dr_Willis thinks Mint is behind in its version #'s
[06:02] <PappiChi> Voss yeah. I might give it whirl actually
[06:03] <keepsake> flexible: Better try it for yourself
[06:03] <Voss> flexible, yes it is. A bit more stable than ubuntu main. I also like the fact they put the task bar on the bottom not the top
[06:04] <Voss> and its green
[06:04] <flexible> keepsake: i'm burning it as we speak... i downloaded it the other day, was just wanting an opinion
[06:04] <PappiChi> Dr_Willis well, Ubuntu is debian derived ... but don't get angry
[06:04] <PappiChi> simply I prefer openbox and debian-like architecture. After that , it's all good
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> PappiChi:  and i seem to recall Mandrake being redhat derrived - like 7+ yrs ago......
[06:05] <PappiChi> Dr_Willis stop! I feel faint
[06:05]  * Dr_Willis goes back to Minix :P
[06:05] <Voss> mandrake thats a blast from the past
[06:05] <PappiChi> Dr_Willis wow, you might be as old as me ;)
[06:05] <Wzrd> My laptop is overheating. I have tried reapplying thermal paste. All fans are working, the room temp is cool, etc. What should I do?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Dont make me get out my CP/M disks!
[06:06]  * PappiChi resists the urge to make wise guy answer to Wzrd
[06:06] <Voss> wzrd, a laptop cooler to stick underneath it
[06:06] <chrisd2> Hi, nix noob here, where do I set options like noapic?
[06:06] <duckwars> Could slowness over my LAN be due to the type of wireless security I use? Is WEP somehow faster than WPA/WPA2?
[06:06] <syn-ack> PappiChi: Honestly, with the way Ubuntu is going I feel that very soon, it's going to be diverged for Debian more than other distros
[06:06] <Wzrd> Thanks Voss, that's a good idea.
[06:06] <chrisd2> I know how to set boot options on the installer CD, but how do I set them for the actual installation?
[06:07] <Voss> wzrd, you can get one thats powered by usb
[06:07] <syn-ack> duckwars: it doesn't really matter in matters of speed but WEP is insecure unlike WPA2
[06:07] <PappiChi> syn-ack I'm not a good person for OS advocacy. I use, and have developed, for all the main ones. Each has its good and bad points
[06:07] <Wzrd> Great, I'll check on newegg
[06:08] <PappiChi> I default to debian-based linux distros though
[06:08] <duckwars> syn-ack: Thank you.  Also, would you have any idea as to why I get such slow transfers using SSH over my wireless netowork?
[06:09] <syn-ack> PappiChi: As have I and do and I just keeping up on Ubuntu's plans and such it highly doubt it's going to be as close to debian as Red Hat is other than the fact that it uses .deb
[06:09] <syn-ack> duckwars: because of overhead
[06:09] <PappiChi> I even worked for 18 months doing ASP.NET / C# developing! Let the flaming begin! ;)
[06:09] <PappiChi> syn-ack yeah, I hear what you are saying
[06:09] <syn-ack> Theres nothing wrong with .NET, imo
[06:10] <duckwars> syn-ack: What overhead are you refering to?
[06:10] <PappiChi> syn-ack same, but don't let the fanbois hear that
[06:10] <Voss> pappi, I once used redhat, then SUSE for a while then ubuntu, now I used mint on my laptop and ubuntu on my desktop
[06:10] <syn-ack> duckwars: encryption overhead
[06:11] <syn-ack> duckwars: Think about it, SSH is encrypted as is your connection, it's gonna slow down some
[06:11] <duckwars> syn-ack: You mean the encryption from ssh?  But it barely does 300KB/s.  I don't think anyone else using SSH on LAN would get such slow connection speeds
[06:11]  * imam slaps kancerman around a bit with a large trout
[06:11] <PappiChi> Voss right. I went straight from redhat 3.x to debian to ubuntu. A little VMS/VAX in the ancient days. Never tried SUSE or Mandrake et al.
[06:12] <PappiChi> haha I had a job while at university doing AIX adminning though. Man ...
[06:12] <syn-ack> duckwars: The odds of me nailing down exactly what's going on right now is slim unless I had physical access to the machine
[06:12] <syn-ack> AIX is the Greatness
[06:12] <syn-ack> I loved using it. :D
[06:12] <Voss> pappi, suse was the first linux distro I was able to get to "work"
[06:13] <duckwars> syn-ack: Any ideas where to start? I have an apple airport extreme.  I've been googling and searching ubuntu forums all day
[06:13] <PappiChi> in the day the RS6000s were the poopenheimer
[06:13] <syn-ack> heh
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. how can you tell how fast a transfer is with scp anyway?
[06:13] <Voss> I went to linux on my laptop before I switched to linux on my desktop
[06:13] <duckwars> when I use scp it gives me the rate
[06:13] <syn-ack> Dr_Willis: by using the -v flag, IIRC
[06:13] <duckwars> i don't use any flag at all and it tells me
[06:13] <PappiChi> Voss heh, yeah. You were brave
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> lets see.....
[06:14] <syn-ack> duckwars: There are too many vars for me to say.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> copying a 800mb file via scp to the server.
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> dident give me no rate.
[06:14] <duckwars> ack... I'm gonna make an official post I guess.  This has been a nuisance for far too long.
[06:14] <Voss> pappi, actually it was easier on my laptop less stuff to screw up. Getting wireless to work was a pain!
[06:14] <duckwars> thaanks for the help
[06:14] <PappiChi> scp is notoriously slow
[06:14] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: I'm using the standard ssh program that came with ubuntu 9.04
[06:15] <duckwars> oh wait
[06:15] <duckwars> i'm using the ssh on my mac
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> doh.. i copied it to a file named 'willis@server' locally... :)
[06:15] <PappiChi> Voss yeah, I'm an old man in my 30's, so I'll spare you the pains I had over the years. Suffice it to say, it's a lot easier now ! :)
[06:15] <syn-ack> But yeah, scp is slooooow, check out rsync or something over ssh instead
[06:15] <mneptok> duckwars: who makes your wireless chipset? what driver is it using (if it's using ndiswrapper, expect suckage). is your wireless b, g or ... ?
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> there we go..  12.1 MB/s
[06:15] <Voss> pappi, im no spring chicken myself
[06:16] <duckwars> mneptok: wireless chipset? The client is a macbook pro 2.0ghz the server is a fitpc2 with ubuntu 9.04
[06:16]  * mneptok laughs. "old man in my 30s"
[06:16] <PappiChi> Voss rock on, old man
[06:16] <PappiChi> mneptok ;)
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. seemes to have averaged out at about 10.8 MB/s for this scp test.
[06:16] <PappiChi> mneptok I'm working off the assumption many people here are in their late teens / early 20s
[06:16] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: I envy you greatly
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> 1:05 to copy 701mb
[06:17] <mneptok> PappiChi: i'm not, whippersnapper. :P
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> duckwars:  I may be on a GB network connection. im not sure what i have btween these 2 box's.
[06:17] <duckwars> Dr_Willis: is that wired or wireless?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> wired
[06:17] <chrisd2> Hi, noob question here, how do I change the disk I'm working with in terminal? For example, I want to access /dev/sda1/, how do I move to that dir?
[06:17] <PappiChi> mneptok yeah, but I *knew* you were old ;)
[06:17] <chrisd2> *that drive
[06:17] <duckwars> o i c
[06:17] <mneptok> duckwars: is the Ubuntu machine using wireless?
[06:17] <duckwars> mneptok: yes it is
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> chrisd2:  you cd to the MOUNTPOINT for the mounted filesystem
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> !shell | chrisd2
[06:18] <mneptok> duckwars: and who makes the wireless chipset in the Ubuntu machine?
[06:18] <mneptok> duckwars: lspci -vvv
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> chrisd2:  if sda1 is mounted at /media/videos   the you 'cd /media/videos'
[06:18] <chrisd2> Dr_Willis, how do I know the mountpoint?
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> chrisd2:  try the mount command.. time to learn some shell basics I think,
[06:18] <chrisd2> So I'm setting it, not finding it?
[06:18] <zetheroo1> Seems like I am going to have to create screencasts from Windows while running Ubuntu in Virtual Box as creating screencasts in Ubuntu is such a waste of time ... the output format of Gtk-RMD is .ogv which when finally finding a way to convert it to AVI or MPEG4 turns into horrible quality and is out of sync with the Audio track ... sucks! Ironic that Windows has to be used to make a decent screencast of Ubuntu ... :(
[06:18] <PappiChi> it's a pity there are no statistics kept on the oldest person to ever join #ubuntu
[06:19] <PappiChi> !ot | PappiChi
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> chrisd2:  what?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> chrisd2:  if its not mounted.. then you have to mount it.
[06:19] <chrisd2> Dr_Willis, wait, is it the one that is X on /media/xxxx
[06:19] <kevinp> Is there  a simple way to generate a list of the programs installed in the terminal? Could one use this to easily install a large list of appilications from the terminal?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:  see what guy that does the 'meet the gimp' webcasts uses..
[06:19] <Wzrd> Is there a macro program for linux?
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> chrisd2:  they could be mounted to any named directory /media/whatever
[06:20] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: is that a site?
[06:20] <moronic44> hi people. im an ubuntu novice...is there a way i can use ubuntu to put music on my LG Env phone? in theory i think it should work but i plug it in and im finding it impossible to mount..i can sync my ipod fine..but not my phone
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:  yes. he does gimp video toto0rials..
[06:20] <chrisd2> Dr_Willis,  okay, i will see how that works. thanks :)
[06:20] <mneptok> kevinp: research the "get selections" and "set selections" options of dpkg
[06:20] <isolat3dsh33p> question about cairo-dock, how can I edit the reserved space for the dock?
[06:20] <duckwars> mneptok: It looks like RaLink Device 3000
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:   hes got over 100+ video casts/lessions hes done. :)
[06:21] <duckwars> mneptok: that is if Network Controller is the wireless chip
[06:21] <Wzrd> I have a macro program that allows me to execute keystrokes, mouseclicks,etc. Is there such a way under Linux?
[06:21] <mneptok> duckwars: Ralink drivers are known to have issues. IIRC, proximity to the access point is one of the primary problems.
[06:21] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: looks like he has them up for download and not streaming ...
[06:22] <Dr-Digi__> I usually use my mac to make my tutorials with my snow mic
[06:22] <mneptok> duckwars: lspci -vvv | grep ireless
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:  of course the audio  sync is not quite as critical when  You justg see him movind the mouse around in gimp.   No idea on streaming vs downloading. I dont see how that would matter much
[06:22] <duckwars> mneptok: just gave me another command prompt
[06:22] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: the other part of my issues is that once I upload anything made by Avidemux to YouTube it just looks horrible ... fuzzy and useless
[06:22] <mneptok> duckwars: lspci -vvv | grep etwork
[06:22] <kevinp> Let's say i wanted to reinstall my whole system, is there a way to generate a list of the programs I have installed, so that I run the list in the terminal?
[06:22] <mneptok> kevinp: research the "get selections" and "set selections" options of dpkg
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:  theres winff and handbrake also.. but they are all front ends to ffmpeg and mencoder i imagine.
[06:23] <duckwars> mneptok: 03:00.0 Network controller: RaLink Device 3090
[06:23] <mneptok> duckwars: does the machine have a wired network connector?
[06:23] <duckwars> mneptok: it does
[06:23] <Wzrd> kevinp: In terminal, you can type "sudo apt-get install progname1 progname2 progname3"
[06:24] <Dr-Digi__> I want handbrake to use a cluster system
[06:24] <mneptok> duckwars: then that wired connector may well be the Ralink
[06:24] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: yeah I have been using winff and tried handbrake as well ... winff seems to love and hate the encoders at random ... and handbrake only outputs into two formats ... neither of which are good quality ...
[06:24] <duckwars> mneptok: Oh, I see.
[06:24] <Dr-Digi__> To rip videos fastsr
[06:24] <brainbox> hey guys, anyone have sucess with installing madwifi in 8.04 TLS hardy ?
[06:24] <Wzrd> yes
[06:24] <mneptok> duckwars: the Ralink is the *only* thing in the output of "lspci -vvv" that looks like networking?
[06:25] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: I have been trying to get some decent outcome for 2 days now .. that is why I said maybe just using a Windows app which outputs directly to AVI and does not suffer from audio sync issues is going to be easiest ..
[06:25] <brainbox> i get an error...
[06:25] <brainbox> cd: 1: can't cd to /lib/modules/2.6.24-26-server/build
[06:25] <brainbox> Makefile.inc:66: *** /lib/modules/2.6.24-26-server/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH
[06:25] <brainbox> is there any repositories for madwifi for ubuntu?
[06:25] <duckwars> mneptok: well there are 2 things, Ethernet controller, which I assumed was the wired connection, and Network Controller, which I assumed was wireless
[06:25] <mneptok> duckwars: that sounds like a sage assumption
[06:26] <mneptok> duckwars: *safe
[06:26] <PappiChi> sage works
[06:26] <duckwars> mneptok: hahahah, I thought you wre totally mocking me
[06:26] <Knowguy> I need help making a desktop shortcut to a terminal command... can someone help?
[06:26] <mneptok> duckwars: try moving the access point closer. if it makes a noticable difference, not only do you have a stop-gap solution, but you can reasonably blame the Ralink driver.
[06:27] <duckwars> mneptok: I'll give it a try
[06:27] <mneptok> duckwars: and you'll know when i'm mocking you. i'm as subtle as a flying hammer.
[06:27] <duckwars> mneptok: =)
[06:27] <Knowguy> I need help making a desktop launcher to a terminal command... can someone help?
[06:28] <JustMozzy1> hi guys. I am having some issues with guessing mime-types
[06:28] <Ademan> why don't i have an aclocal.m4? i swear i used to have one somewhere in /usr/{share,lib}/automake*/
[06:28] <JustMozzy1> I am trying file -b --mime 2D.flv and instead of returning video/x-flv it returns me application/octet-stream
[06:29] <shashtri> hi
[06:29] <Knowguy> I need help making a desktop launcher to a terminal command... can someone help?
[06:29] <Ademan> Knowguy: what's the problem?
[06:30] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: btw, this is what he uses ... and its not free http://demorecorder.com/  .... I guess you really do have to pay for most things in order for them to be any good ...
[06:31] <Knowguy> I am running a game server and the only way to start the service is to type command line and I just want to make a shortcut on the desktop...
[06:31] <JustMozzy1> weird also is if I don't specify any parameters "file 2D.flv" it would return me "Macromedia Flash Video"
[06:32] <shashtri> i've to set my screen resolution to 1024*768...but i've got only 800*600 and 640*480 resolutions...i'm using ubuntu 9.10...i didn had prob in the earlier versions of ubuntu....pls help me...
[06:32] <JustMozzy1> and the weirdest of all is if I try to guess the mime type from any of the PHP functions it would give me text/plain
[06:32] <JustMozzy1> can anyone help?
[06:33] <Orion337> ubuntu has been out this long and it still can't handle atheros wifi
[06:33] <duckwars> mneptok: I moved it right next to the router, still the same speed
[06:34] <duckwars> mneptok: MAYBE slightly faster
[06:34] <Daughain> OK, just set up samba, and am getting "Nautilus could not handle Network locations" Do I just need a reboot?
[06:34] <Knowguy> I need help making a desktop launcher to a terminal command... can someone help?
[06:35] <mneptok> duckwars: FWIW, i get 2.1Mb/s over 802.11g and an Intel wireless card. so it's not Ubuntu in general.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> Knowguy:  You mean you need to learn what command the launcher is lauinching?
[06:35] <PiklesOnFire> Knowguy: what desktop are you using... gnome, kde, etc?
[06:35] <mneptok> duckwars: this being over ssh, as well.
[06:35] <duckwars> mneptok: For you are both client and server wireless?
[06:36] <Knowguy> gnome
[06:36] <mneptok> duckwars: server is wired.
[06:36] <mneptok> duckwars: (as servers should be) ;)
[06:36] <PiklesOnFire> Knowguy: have a look here: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
[06:37] <duckwars> mneptok: I'm thinking of just wiring the server, but as I have it right now my server is headless, and I made it so that it logs into an account and gets on the wireless network.  If I wire it now, I'm wondering if it will use the wireless or the wired connection.
[06:37] <infid> to share my ~/Music folder should i right-click on it and choose 'share' using windows networks sharing service, or should i use smbfs?
[06:37] <duckwars> mneptok: or if you happen to know a way to make it not autoboot into an account through the command line
[06:37] <max1234> I have to go to open with in order to view any pictures or play music, what should I do?
[06:37] <Knowguy> I have read through similar material... still can't get it to work...
[06:38] <Jkessler> infid set it up in your samba conf as a share
[06:38] <Jkessler> you can share home folders somehow
[06:38] <mneptok> duckwars: Ubuntu should always prefer a wired connection. and you can turn off autologin via System > Admin > Login screen
[06:38] <max1234> All the files show up as unknown files and I have to go to open with and choose an application in order to view them
[06:39] <duckwars> mneptok: I have no way of accessing the gui
[06:39] <mneptok> duckwars: sure you do. you have ssh. :)
[06:39] <Stupendoussteve> max1234: Choose the properties for a filetype and set a default application
[06:39] <duckwars> mneptok: I was never able to figure out how to use X or whatever it is to connect, never even got that to work
[06:39] <mneptok> duckwars: ssh -X user@server
[06:39] <Jkessler> no way..  is it that easy?
[06:40] <Darkedge> How much RAM should I have to run GNOME?
[06:40] <faileas> lol
[06:40] <mneptok> duckwars: and once logged in, type "gdmsetup"
[06:40] <faileas> Jkessler: yeah
[06:40] <mneptok> duckwars: (no quotes)
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> is it -x or -X i forget which one does X forwazrding and whioch one disables it...
[06:40] <nonoy\> at least you can the ubuntu as well
[06:40] <faileas> ssh -X
[06:40] <llutz> Dr_Willis: -X for X-forwarding
[06:40] <mneptok> Dr_Willis: capital X for X11 forwarding
[06:40] <max1234> Stupendoussteve, I don't have that option when I go to properties, I have a general tab and permissions tab
[06:40] <faileas> Darkedge: what's your specs?
[06:41] <duckwars> mneptok: What is that communication called that gives you a gui through SSH? because in my OS X terminal when I type ssh -X user@server it opens a program called X11 which brings up no gui
[06:41] <Jkessler> and that spawns what..?
[06:41] <Darkedge> faileas: 1GB RAM with an Intel 82845G Video card
[06:41] <Jkessler> i still get a bash prompt
[06:41] <faileas> Darkedge: you shouldn't have a problem
[06:41] <nonoy\> Darkedge: that's enough
[06:41] <faileas> Jkessler: start a programme with it
[06:41] <Darkedge> phew :)
[06:41] <faileas> as long as it isn't firefox
[06:41] <Darkedge> faileas: haha it is
[06:41] <Stupendoussteve> duckwars: If you were to run xgalaga on a box with xgalaga installed, it would open in X11
[06:41] <mneptok> duckwars: it should still log you in in Terminal.app
[06:41] <Darkedge> im installing chrome right now
[06:41] <Jkessler> crap
[06:42] <Jkessler> i just started firefox
[06:42] <faileas> Darkedge: anything with more than 256 mb is enough ;p
[06:42] <Jkessler> before i saw you say that
[06:42] <Jkessler> i was gonna check whatismyip.com
[06:42] <faileas> Jkessler: firefox opens a local session ;p
[06:42] <Jkessler> oh
[06:42] <duckwars> mneptok: in the terminal app it just gives me a comand line again, and X11 just does nothing but open up
[06:42] <mneptok> duckwars: a command prompt locally, or on the Ubuntu machine?
[06:43] <duckwars> mneptok: on the machine
[06:43] <Jkessler> i'm gonna try xchat
[06:43] <faileas> Jkessler: if you want to use firefox you'd want -no-remote
[06:43] <Jkessler> but i've gotta install it
[06:43] <duckwars> even using the command prompt in X11 does nothing but log me in through a command prompt
[06:43] <mneptok> duckwars: uhhh ... *what* machine?
[06:43] <Stupendoussteve> duckwars: You have to run a program
[06:44] <duckwars> mneptok: I run ssh -X user@server and I get a command prompt for the machine that is the server
[06:44] <duckwars> stupendoussteve: do you happen to know what program in OS X?
[06:44] <mneptok> duckwars: type "gdmsetup" (no quotes)
[06:44] <Jkessler> damn!  that's pretty cool.  i've just been doing everything by command line
[06:44] <Jkessler> because i didn't want to set up vnc
[06:44] <Stupendoussteve> duckwars: You have to run a program on the remote box, it will open in X11 on the local machine
[06:44] <duckwars> ohhhhh
[06:44] <Stupendoussteve> If you don't run a program there's nothing to display graphically.
[06:44] <duckwars> I typed gdmsetup and it said I have to be root, but some gui stuff did pop up
[06:45] <duckwars> is there no way to just get the desktop enviroment?
[06:45] <max1234> and when i try to open PCmanFM it says GTK+ theme is not properly set and says it usually means you don't have an Xsettings manager running, what should I install to fix this?
[06:45] <llutz> duckwars: install vnc
[06:45] <Daughain> This is gonna be a long night.....
[06:45] <duckwars> llutz: I have vnc installed and running, but when it runs on the server without a screen it has awful resolution
[06:46] <mneptok> Daughain: and i think we're gonna need a bigger boat ...
[06:46] <faileas> duckwars: the 'best' way is to use a protocol called nx IMO
[06:46] <Daughain> I usualy need a bigger boat, mneptok. The hipwaders just dont cut it anymore. =)
[06:46] <duckwars> faileas: what is this protocol?
[06:46] <Stupendoussteve> and we gonna need more wax
[06:47] <faileas> duckwars: its an accelerated x forwarding thing, its faster than the normal x11 forwarding
[06:47] <Daughain> WHat causes the error "Nautilus cannot handle 'network' locations"?
[06:47] <Daughain> mneptok: WHat ya need help with?
[06:47] <llutz> faileas: have they cleaned the code and fixed some security issues with nx now? iirc they had some problems in the past, which made nx ... not recommended
[06:48] <duckwars> I figured out X now at least, thanks for that mneptok, and I'm gonna try wiring the server, see if I get anywhere doing that
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  You are using the full gnome desktop? or somt other window manager?
[06:49] <Daughain> STraight gnome.
[06:49] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: I removed kde already.
[06:49] <faileas> llutz: i last used it a few years ago, it rocked tho ;p
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  try making a new user - see if they have the same issue. Its possible removeing kde goofed up something.
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  ive seen where having kde and gnome both can confuse some 'special' locations/assoications
[06:50] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: I removed kde when I removed samba for a reinstall. =)
[06:50] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: It was all kinda a package deal for some reason.
[06:51] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: This is a fresh install of samba, just reset locations, and cannot load netowkr in nautilus at all.
[06:52] <Daughain> Also, I dontknow how to make a new user... =)
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  havintg samba installed or not - i think has very little to do with gnome/nautilus
[06:52] <sje46> is there a way to change the color of the text in a panel?
[06:52] <Jkessler> faileas: this is cool, i ran nautilus from the remote machine.  too bad you can't use it to copy to your local machine using scp in the background
[06:52] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  perhaps try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and try a new user.
[06:52] <Daughain> Ok, so, do a check for anything else kde left, and remove it?
[06:52] <brainbox> I need some assistance with madwifi & ubuntu hardy i got it all in this nifty pastebin
[06:52] <brainbox> http://pastebin.ca/1754408
[06:52] <sje46> Daughain, system>admin>users and groups
[06:52] <brainbox> any suggestions would be appreciated
[06:53] <max1234> whats a good program I can install to backup my packages if I happen to mess something up?
[06:53] <Daughain> CHeck for kde stuff.....Ok.
[06:53] <llutz> !clone | max1234
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  no.. not for kde stuff.. :) if you had kde installed  and removed it.. IF kde took over some assoication.. its possible removing kde did NOT restore the gnome assoication
[06:54] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Would it be better to reinstall kde, then?
[06:55] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  perhaps try 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' and try a new user.
[06:55] <zetheroo1> why is it that whenever I convert an AVI to FLV that the quality of the video goes horrible?
[06:55] <ardchoille> Daughain: are you having trouble seting a default app for a file type?
[06:55] <bashca> hi there   any  help (flashplugin-nonfree: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.)  please
[06:56] <Daughain> ardchoille: Im getting the error "Nautilus cannot handle 'network' locations."
[06:56] <brainbox> http://pastebin.ca/1754408
[06:56] <ardchoille> Daughain: Ah, ok
[06:56] <zetheroo1> this is the command being used: -vcodec flv -f flv -r 29.97 -s 320x240 -aspect 4:3 -b 300kb -g 160 -cmp dct  -subcmp dct  -mbd 2 -flags +aic+cbp+mv0+mv4 -trellis 1 -ac 1 -ar 22050 -ab 56kb
[06:56] <brainbox> i need help getting madwifi working wth ubuntu
[06:56] <brainbox> http://pastebin.ca/1754408
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:  using mencoder of ffmpeg?  check their homepage/faq/forums  for convertion tips perhaps?
[06:58] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: Winff ... so ffmpeg
[06:58] <nahy> i have pidgin and need to know how to configure it's OTR feature
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  did you try reinstalling ubuntu-desktop yet?  then make and try a new user. see if they have the same issue
[06:59] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: No....Why am I reinstalling ubuntu desktop to create a new user?
[06:59] <duckwars> what is the command to see all the computers on my network?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  because when you removed KDE it also removed some setting that gnome was using..   and its possible its just a user setting (thus the new user test)
[07:01] <bashca> hi there   any  help (flashplugin-nonfree: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.)  please
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  so reinstalling Ubuntu-desktpp SHOULD get the desktpp back to a normal state. and the new user should have new proper default settings
[07:02] <Daughain> Added a new user.....Lemme log over.
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  you could try just a new user first
[07:04] <brainbox> i need some help with madwifi....
[07:04] <brainbox> anyone out there?
[07:04] <brainbox> AR5416 chipset
[07:04] <brainbox> http://pastebin.ca/1754408
[07:04] <buttons840> what package allows a system to be a ssl server?   i thought it was openssl-server, but can't find that package in the repos?  (9.10)
[07:05] <ShazbotMcNasty> brainbox, I don't know how to help you, otherwise I would...
[07:05] <Daugha|n> OK, here we go with the new desktop...
[07:06] <EastDallas> brainbox: so what exactly is your problem?
[07:06] <nahy> i have pidgin and need to know how to configure it's OTR feature
[07:06] <brainbox> wireless driver doesn;'t seem to work with ubuntu
[07:06] <Jkessler> anyone know if you can run virtualbox over ssh -X ?
[07:07] <brainbox> updated with /var/log/messages output http://pastebin.ca/1754416
[07:07] <Dr-Digi__> Step 7 on install doesn't ever seem to finish and just closes
[07:07] <bashca> hi there   any  help (flashplugin-nonfree: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.)  please
[07:07] <EastDallas> brainbox: how did you install it?
[07:07] <brainbox> from source, compiled it
[07:07] <brainbox> loaded the module
[07:07] <brainbox> no errors
[07:07] <brainbox> the module is loaded
[07:07] <ShazbotMcNasty> bashca, I don't understand the question.
[07:07] <Dr-Digi__> Could anyone remote desktop in and take a peak?
[07:07] <teadict> Jkessler: of course, whatever X shows goes through ssh
[07:07] <EastDallas> brainbox: is there a reason you didn't just install from jockey?
[07:07] <brainbox> im using hardy... 8.04
[07:08] <Jkessler> i might have to play with that
[07:08] <brainbox> if u look at the pastebin and the hardware... u will understand why... and i don;t need a lecture about why im running wireless with this hardware
[07:08] <bashca> ShazbotMcNasty: my  Q  how   can  i remove  flashpluging ??????   note  i tried  all  methods  using   apt  aptitu  dpk... so  on  ??
[07:09] <EastDallas> brainbox: It's not broadcom?  I must have misread
[07:09] <bashca> ShazbotMcNasty: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal ???
[07:09] <brainbox> no its a 0a:01.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5416 802.11abgn Wireless PCI Adapter (rev 01)
[07:09] <brainbox> broadcom adaptors are both working
[07:10] <t1n0m3n> Ubuntu 9.10, x64, Ralink 2870USB, I need help figuring out why NetworkManager applet keeps asking for a password.  I am currently on WPA2-PSK, AES.  When I try no security, it connects, but there is no signal.
[07:10] <brainbox> 0a:01.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5416 802.11abgn Wireless PCI Adapter (rev 01)
[07:10] <duckwars> just for the record, the server is now wired and i get a good 1.1MB/s
[07:11] <EastDallas> brainbox: sorry, I saw broadcom and just started trying to walk u through standard wireless setup.  Hardy + atheros is beyond my expertise.
[07:12] <t1n0m3n> I dual boot, and have no problems in Win7 64bit, nor did I have a problem on Mint 7.  However, I did have a problem on Mint 8
[07:13] <EastDallas> !ubuntu | t1n0m3n
[07:13] <EastDallas> !ot | t1n0m3n
[07:13] <t1n0m3n> EastDallas:  Uh, ok
[07:13]  * EastDallas oops
[07:13] <faileas> t1n0m3n: mint has its own support - since they use their own mods, it isn't supported here
[07:14] <brainbox> np we may have the aweser someone finally woke up in madwifi
[07:14] <brainbox> lol
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Mint is too leet for us. :)
[07:14] <brainbox> im getting the 3rd degree for using it with a raq
[07:14] <t1n0m3n> If you read my post, you would see that I am on Ubuntu 9.10 x64
[07:15] <t1n0m3n> Ubuntu 9.10, x64, Ralink 2870USB, I need help figuring out why NetworkManager applet keeps asking for a password.  I am currently on WPA2-PSK, AES.  When I try no security, it connects, but there is no signal.
[07:15] <EastDallas> t1n0m3n: sorry, just saw the second one...
[07:16] <buttons840> my system wont boot after an update, but i'm hoping that because i killed the power mid update;  what are the odds of it working properly with a proper update?
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> Stopping in Midupdate = bad idea.. :()
[07:16] <maco> buttons840: much higher
[07:16] <faileas> well, you'd need to boot it to update
[07:16] <EastDallas> t1n0m3n: I had a similar problem  with jaunty, and I switched to WiCD and the problem went away.  When I upgraded to Karmic I was able to go back to networkmanager.
[07:17] <t1n0m3n> I have also tried 32 bit versions as well with no luck
[07:17] <zetheroo1> anyone here familiar with using ffmpeg?
[07:17] <EastDallas> t1n0m3n: only mine with wit wep, not wpa
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:  no  info/tips in their forums/faq/wiki eh?
[07:17] <faileas> zetheroo1: i tend to use winff as a frontend.
[07:17] <t1n0m3n> I have tried WPA2, WPA, WEP, and open with no luck
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> zetheroo1:  dident discover a --makeitlookgood  setting? :)
[07:18] <buttons840> heh, we'll i had to kill the update because i thought i could switch users during an update, but this froze the system and forced a hard reboot
[07:18] <t1n0m3n> I have also tried the 2300 drivers directly from Ralink with no luck
[07:18]  * bashca  still  have  the  same  Q and  problem any 1 can help  please
[07:19] <EastDallas> t1n0m3n: I don't think I tested mine on an unsecured network, or with wpa, just switched to WiCD after someone at Ubuntuforums suggested I do so, it worked.
[07:19] <t1n0m3n> k, let me try it
[07:19] <EastDallas> t1n0m3n: worth a shot anyway
[07:20]  * Dr-Digi__ burps
[07:20] <JamesG> Hi. I just upgraded an intrepid machine to karmic. Since I upgraded, I have a cron job which is failing.. No problem, except I can't find where it's running from. It's not in the individual user's crontab (nor any other in /var/spool/cron/crontabs), it's not in /etc/cron.d or /etc/crontab or any of the other directories under /etc/cron.* - does anyone have any clue where I might find it?
[07:21] <zetheroo1> Dr_Willis: ha .. nope .. by the looks of it I could spend weeks reading stuff ... and still not get anywhere really ...
[07:21] <faileas> hmm, one of my systems seems to have started shutting itself down the moment it starts up
[07:21] <zetheroo1> faileas; that is what I am using
[07:21]  * faileas wonders what he messed up
[07:24] <Pingu> hey all
[07:25] <Pingu> I really need some help with configuring GRUB2
[07:25] <Dr-Digi__> When you install ubuntu does it not tell you its completed? Or does the window just close with no messages?
[07:26] <zetheroo1> faileas: have you used WinFF to convert to FLV?
[07:26] <SNOKAT> hello
[07:26] <faileas> zetheroo1: no, but i've used it to more or less work out the ffmpeg command line ;p
[07:26] <SNOKAT> what?
[07:27] <rick_2047> Hey I installed ubuntu from the alternate cd, now it does not detect some of my partitions one is ntfs and the other is fat32
[07:27] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Reinstalled ubuntu-desktop, new user, no love.
[07:27] <ziroday> Dr-Digi__: it tells you when it is completed
[07:27] <Dr-Digi__> It just closes every single time on me
[07:27] <SNOKAT> blbnt yf [eq
[07:27] <SNOKAT> èäèòå íà õóé
[07:28] <ziroday> Dr-Digi__: open a terminal and type in ubiquity, does it close then?
[07:28] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Half tempted to wipe this sys and rebuild from scratch, yet again...
[07:29] <Dr-Digi__> I get to step 7 and the window closes let me try im on my phone
[07:29] <zetheroo1> faileas: I have an ogv file that I am trying to convert to AVI .. but the quality goes way down ...
[07:29] <abumaia> does anyone know how to install the ubuntu2 grub2 theme from grub.gibibit.com?
[07:29] <faileas> zetheroo1: well. you are converting lossy to lossy
[07:30] <buttons840> what package do i need to install on my server to be able to access it using ssh shell?
[07:30] <Dr-Digi__> It says its already running
[07:30] <SNOKAT> buttons840
[07:30] <zetheroo1> faileas: sounds fun :)
[07:30] <bashca> hi there   any  help (flashplugin-nonfree: Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal.)  please
[07:30] <rick_2047> can anyone please help me, ubuntu is having problems detecting partitions of my hard drive
[07:30] <SNOKAT> icq  the best
[07:30] <Daughain> rick_2047: Care to elaborate?
[07:30] <rick_2047> it is shown in the partition list with fdisk -l but ubuntu does not mout it
[07:30] <faileas> hmm. I have a ubuntu box which suddenly started auto shutting itself down 'gracefully' automatically. Any ideas on where to start poking? ;p
[07:31] <Pingu> can any1 help me with figuring out how to edit the grub,cfg to multiboot ISO files?
[07:31] <zetheroo1> faileas: does it happen before Ubuntu loads? -- or after?
[07:31] <abumaia> faileas:  maybe overheating?
[07:31] <faileas> after
[07:31] <Daughain> Overheat doesnt do it gracefully. Trust me on that. =)
[07:31] <faileas> abumaia: hm. would it do it gracefully if it was overheating?
[07:31] <faileas> yeah that's what's troubling me ;p
[07:31] <don-i> anyone know where i can find gcc's math.h ?
[07:31] <rick_2047> Daughain: I have 3 partitions other than ubuntu out of which 1 is shown other two are ntfs and vfat
[07:31] <abumaia> faileas: I guess it depends on your definition of "gracefully"
[07:32] <Pingu> faileas, it might be a power management problem
[07:32] <Daughain> faileas: Overheat just shuts ndown bang, nothing.
[07:32] <faileas> abumaia: i mean, as if someone shut it down properly ;p
[07:32] <faileas> Pingu: plugged in laptop, no power management tools installed as far as i know
[07:32] <rick_2047> Daughain: when I tried the disk utility they are shown as unused space
[07:32] <Pingu> so it might be a setting to shut down due to CPU high temp in the BIOS
[07:32] <Daughain> rick_2047: Need to make sure that those formats are supported in the disk utility you are using.
[07:32] <infid> what ufw command do i use to allow any computer on 192.168.1.* to access port 137?
[07:32] <faileas> i'll take a look at te bios
[07:33] <faileas> then
[07:33] <Daughain> rick_2047: NTFS should be, but I've never heard of vfat
[07:33] <zetheroo1> faileas: does is "shut down" or switch off cold?
[07:33]  * faileas notes i though i had this system running well ;p
[07:33] <faileas> zetheroo1: shut down
[07:33] <rick_2047> Daughain: i mean fat32
[07:33] <Daughain> faileas: I know the feeling.. =)
[07:33] <infid> sudo ufw allow proto udp to any port 137 from <IP_ADDRESS>/24?
[07:33] <faileas> thats why i said gracefully
[07:33] <Daughain> rick_2047: Make sure MS formats are set to be recognized.
[07:33] <zetheroo1> faileas: so Ubuntu actually shuts down? ... before or after you login?
[07:33] <rick_2047> Daughain: and another fat32 filesystem is detected
[07:33] <faileas> Daughain: gah. its a minimal box
[07:33] <abumaia> does anyone know how to install any of the grub2 themes from grub.gibibit.com?
[07:34] <rick_2047> Daughain: how do I set that?
[07:34] <Pingu> faileas: does it have a battery? by "plugged in" you mean it is running only on AC?
[07:34] <Daughain> rick_2047: What are you using to access the drive?
[07:34] <faileas> zetheroo1: autologs in, shows me a tasty glimse of openbox (which is what i use) and immediately starts shutting down
[07:34] <faileas> Pingu: AC + nearly full battery
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> abumaia:  the grub2 in ubuntu dosent support themes. you sould have to use a newer version of grub2 from PPA or source then try the themes..
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> abumaia:  proberly in the next release they will be using more of the features of grub2 for that eyecandy
[07:35] <rick_2047> Daughain: this is sata hard drive using the standard ubuntu nautilus interface to but they are not shown in the moutable partitions
[07:35] <zetheroo1> faileas: wow ... interesting
[07:35] <Pingu> faileas: turn it off, take the battery out, let it run with AC only and see if it still happens...
[07:35] <abumaia> Dr_Willis:  hm, the grub.gibibit.com site said that the graphics features were already in the ubuntu packages, they just didn't provide any installation instructions
[07:35] <Pingu> tah't is - after checking the BIOS
[07:35] <Daughain> rick_2047: May need to add them manually as mountable. Just dont ask me how to do that, I'm not sure, since I have bever had to.
[07:36] <buttons840> is it possible to have one user who can log in without a password and another use who requires a password?
[07:36] <faileas> no thermal warning option in the bios
[07:36] <Pingu> Sounds like an ACPI issue
[07:36] <faileas> hmm
[07:36] <faileas> its also booting off a USB drive, EXT4, proper install
[07:36] <rick_2047> Daughain: I can add them using the fstab but thats ridiculous I never had to do that
[07:36] <Pingu> run 'acpi -V' in a console
[07:36] <zetheroo1> faileas: I don't think it would be a heat issue ...
[07:36] <faileas> but, its worked fine for about a week
[07:36] <Pingu> what does it say?
[07:36] <faileas> Pingu: now. if i could boot in, i could
[07:37] <Daughain> rick_2047: DOnt ask me, I'm a newbie. :P I agree it is ridiculous, but....This is linux. =)
[07:37] <zetheroo1> faileas: I have had heat issues and that is not how my systems acted to overheating
[07:37] <faileas> zetheroo1: yeah, i know. this is WIERD
[07:37] <Pingu> can someone tell me what to put in the menu entry of grub.cfg to boot the UBCD411.iso ?
[07:37] <zetheroo1> faileas: can you boot off of a Live CD and locate the system logs?
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> abumaia:  thats not how i read the grub2 docs and forums when i was doing beta. there was quite a bit of stuff removed from grub2. such as some of the scripting language features. (lua?)
[07:37] <Pingu> faileas: what do you mean?
[07:37] <quellhorst> how can i check what ubuntu version i have installed from console?
[07:38] <faileas> hm
[07:38] <faileas> removing the battery helped
[07:38] <abumaia> faileas: are you sure it's not someone ssh'ing into the box and shutting it down remotely? as a prank or hack?
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> abumaia:  I seem to recall some grub2 ubuntu wiki/docs discussing how to get the themeable grub2 stuff versions  installed
[07:38] <Dr-Digi__> My three year old exited chat for me
[07:38] <faileas> abumaia: no. no one here is smart enough ;p
[07:38] <faileas> ok, i got it working for now ;p
[07:38] <Dr_Willis> !grub2
[07:39] <buttons840> could always unplug the ether cable
[07:39] <Pingu> quellhorst: lsb_release or 'cat /etc/issue
[07:39] <arghh2d2> Dr-Digi__: enter irssi+screen
[07:39] <Pingu> '
[07:39] <quellhorst> Pingu: thanks
[07:39] <dnivra> Pingu, i don't think booting iso is supported in grub2 yet. that's what i remember reading at the community documentation.
[07:39] <Dr-Digi__> Im on my phone i havent customized it to much yet
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> Pingu:  booting an iso file qwith grub2 IS SUPPORTED - i do it all the time
[07:40] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: ANy more ideaS?
[07:40] <Dr-Digi__> Cant get ubuntu to install to put that to real use
[07:41] <faileas> hmm
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  so installung ubuntu-desktpp and a new user dident fix things?
[07:41] <faileas> "critical temprature reached 94 degrees, shutting down"
[07:41] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Nope.
[07:41] <faileas> and removing the battery helped?
[07:41] <Pingu> Dr_Willis: can you help me with the configuration?
[07:41] <faileas> ok... the heck?
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> http://delicious.com/dr_willis/grub2
[07:41] <abumaia> well, I suppose I could make do with BURG until grub2 is ready.  I do like the ubuntu2 theme better than any of the others though
[07:41] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Did lose my wd passport, though, which is not a happy thing.
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> Pingu:  see the links i got
[07:41] <infid> what command tells me which folders i'm sharing on my system?
[07:42] <Pingu> it keeps telling me 'unknown command' to anything I try
[07:42] <bashca> any help ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
[07:42] <Daughain> Now I need to figure out how to access the thing so I can back it up...
[07:42] <llutz> Multiple exclamation(/question) marks are a sure sign of a diseased mind. [T.Pratchett]
[07:42] <darthanubis> bashca, relax
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Pingu:  you have to make a custome grub entry to boot each iso. you dotn just select a iso and boot it. its not that smart.
[07:42] <infid> bashca: calm down you're not trapped in rubble in ahiti
[07:42] <infid> haiti
[07:42] <Pingu> quellhorst: you are most welcome!
[07:42] <Dr-Digi__> Anyone at all willing to remote desktop into my system to see if they can see why ubuntu wont install?
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> Dr-Digi__:  if it wont install .. how can they remote in?
[07:42] <darthanubis> Dr-Digi__, nope
[07:43] <Dr-Digi__> Livecd runs
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> and what does the installer not do/fail to do?
[07:43] <dnivra> Dr_Willis, that's not what the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto says. is it that they've not updated it? last time I checked it said support was not there in GRUB2 for iso.
[07:43] <Pingu> infamy: exports - if you are using samba
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> dnivra:  ive been booting iso files with it sincwe beta.
[07:43] <Dr-Digi__> Step 7 it closes
[07:43] <Dr-Digi__> No warning or messages
[07:43] <PdxJohn> is the african chat?
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> Dr-Digi__:  run installer from termianl look for messages.. or try alternative installer cd i guess.
[07:44] <dnivra> Dr_Willis, sorry didn't see those links-pretty slow connection here with an amazing lag time. this is news.
[07:44] <bashca> darthanubis: infid  ok
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> With grub2 you can directly boot an (iso9660) ISO using its loopback option. This is great because it provides another nice rescue scenario –
[07:44] <infid> Pingu: assuming you meant me, and /etc/exports, i am using samba but dont have an /etc/exports
[07:44] <Dr_Willis> dnivra:  i made a multi-ubuntu flash drive that uses grub2 and can boot ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, unr, and alt iso files. :)
[07:45] <PdxJohn> where the nappy headed hoes at?
[07:45] <Dr-Digi__> Ill try freebsd all i need is 1 damn illustrator file off a max os x volume and i been at it ALL day
[07:45] <llutz> infid: /etc/exports is nfs
[07:45] <Dr_Willis> dnivra:  the disrto has to support the feature also.. most are slowly converting/changeign to allow the very handy feature
[07:45] <infid> llutz do you know how to list all the shared folders on a machine
[07:45] <llutz> Dr_Willis: look for freesbie
[07:45] <infid> llutz using samba
[07:46] <triple_xxx> anyone experience a slow internet connection after installing add-ons is there a rule of thumb for waiting on updating add-ons????
[07:46] <dnivra> Dr_Willis, that is awesome. I just cant wait to do so. wish my connection were a bit faster so that I can open the link you gave me.
[07:46] <llutz> infid: smbclient -L //localhost?   sry, i don't use samba
[07:46] <dnivra> Dr_Willis, Oh ok that could be a hitch eh-whether or not the distro supports it or not?
[07:46] <llutz> Dr-Digi__:  freesbie
[07:46] <Trezker> I can accept that Ubuntu reserves a few hundred meg of ram that I can't account for in the system monitors process list, but it really bothers me that it uses more of this "secret" memory after a few days uptime
[07:46] <Dr_Willis> dnivra:  of course. the disrtop has to support some option to switch over to the 'loop' mounted device that grub does. if not.. then it dont do it.
[07:46] <triple_xxx> anyone experience a slow internet connection after installing add-ons firefox is there a rule of thumb for waiting on updating add-ons????
[07:47] <infid> llutz thanks
[07:47] <Dr_Willis> dnivra:  so far most all the ubuntu varisits support it. xpud.  some rescue disrtos and proberly more ive not rried lately
[07:47] <Pingu> infid: sorry, I meant you
[07:47] <Pingu> try 'exportfs -a'
[07:47] <dnivra> Dr_Willis, oh boy thanks for that piece of information. lot's more digging to do before I try it out.
[07:48] <infid> pingu i dont have that command. and i'm using samba, as set up by nautilus when you right click a folder and choose 'share'
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> dnivra:  on my installed systems i add a entry to grub to boot an iso file as a special 'rescue' operation. :)
[07:48] <llutz> Pingu: export/exportfs are nfs-related, not samba
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> dnivra:  i need to add that to a 'feature/brain storm request' :)
[07:48] <Pingu> Dr_Willis: Can you be more specific? I am trying to follow different guides without any success.
[07:49] <triplexxx> hello
[07:49] <calliscope> Dr_Willis> would you paste the grub2 entry you use please ?
[07:49] <dnivra> Dr_Willis, will try that rescue option out.
[07:49] <kinja-sheep> Hey everybody! I love this new aptitude feature! "sudo aptitude torrent <URL>"
[07:49] <kinja-sheep> :P
[07:49] <Pingu> I have Kubuntu Hardy and I installed the 'grub-pc' package
[07:49] <hackoo> how can I hide my hostname from other hosts in the same wireless network? my hostname is seen in router page
[07:49] <llutz> hackoo: reconfigure your router
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> pastebinit  40_custom
[07:50] <hackoo> llutz: hostename of my client machine.
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> http://pastebin.com/f136292a9
[07:50] <kinja-sheep> hackoo: It is normal for the router to see a list of connected IP / hostnames (unless you make the hostname invisible somehow?)
[07:50] <llutz> hackoo: you cannot hide it, reconfigure your router not to show it
[07:50] <calliscope> Dr_Willis, thanks man :)
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. how do you make a hostname invisible? :)
[07:51] <infid> llutz: the weird thing is i just right-clicked ~/Music in nautilus and shared it but smbclient -L //myPC doesn't list the 'Music' folder
[07:51] <Pingu> infid, llutz: /me smacks himself on the forehead...
[07:51] <Jkessler> use a blank character?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> infid:  try findsmb and the smbtree commands?
[07:51] <hackoo> kinja-sheep: that the way, but how to make hostename and mac address invisible?
[07:51] <kinja-sheep> An invisible space bar! Maybe. Or just don't run certain services.
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> kinja-sheep:  years ago we would use 'shift space' on some os's :)
[07:52] <Ademan> why don't i have an aclocal.m4? i swear i used to have one somewhere in /usr/{share,lib}/automake*/
[07:52] <Dr_Willis> !find aclocal.m4
[07:52] <kinja-sheep> hackoo: You don't. Clients sends DHCP request via through MAC address. Once that is done, all communications then takes place through IP.
[07:53] <llutz> hackoo: you can't and it wouldn't make sense to try
[07:53] <calliscope> It sayx not to edit the 'exec tail' line above and you erased it, why is that ?
[07:53] <hackoo> llutz: ok
[07:53] <Diverdude> how do i pipe output from ls into a file?
[07:53] <llutz> Diverdude: ls > file
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> calliscope:  becasue i wanted to add the echo messages  to let it know it was running
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> calliscope:  more then 1 way to 'pipe the rest of this file to the stdnard output'
[07:53] <Diverdude> llutz,  and if the file does not exist?
[07:53] <calliscope> ok
[07:53] <llutz> Diverdude: ls > file
[07:54] <kinja-sheep> Diverdude: It'll create whatever the file exists or not, it does not care. It'll overwrite the file.
[07:54] <llutz> Diverdude:if it exists and you want to append,  ls >> file
[07:54] <kinja-sheep> Diverdude: If you want to add at end of the files, use "ls >> file"
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> calliscope:  other sites have other examples of proper grub2 iso entries.
[07:54] <Diverdude> thx
[07:54] <calliscope> i have tried a few and didn't get any luck
[07:55] <duckwars> how do I create a mountpoint in /media ?
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> calliscope:  http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB
[07:55] <hackoo> what if i make a unknown user account and login from that to hide the original hostname?
[07:55] <llutz> duckwars: sudo mkdir /media/point
[07:55] <obiwan_> hey guys, fyi, i have just read on the news they're going to make 2 Tb sd cards lawl haha
[07:55] <duckwars> llutz: thank you very much
[07:55] <llutz> hackoo: hostname is user-independend
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> calliscope:  ive not tried it lately. i did notice that my entries are not  in  the grub menus also since last week.. i wonder if theres been some changes to grub2 that ive overlooked.
[07:55] <infid> Dr_Willis: thanks
[07:55] <calliscope> actually, it's line 12 that i should work on. which vmlinuz t o indicate.
[07:55] <Dr_Willis> calliscope:  i doubt if they removed the feature..
[07:56] <hackoo> ok
[07:56] <calliscope> Dr_Willis, do you have os-prober installed ?
[07:56] <Pingu> Dr_Willis: Can you post the proper syntax to boot the UltimateBoot CD ISO?
[07:56] <Pingu> plz
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Pingu:  i dont have it handy. and i dont use that cd.. check their forums. its different for different disrtos.
[07:57] <xiong> Hi. System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects has three radio buttons: None, Normal, Extra. I set this to Normal but after every reboot, it reverts to None. Does anyone know where this setting is stored and what might be keeping it from storing properly?
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> Pingu:  perhaps some day all these live cd's will follow the same standard.
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> even xPUD and ubuntu and TCLinux use different options/names  for the same 'job'
[07:57] <llutz> hackoo: what you want is called spoofing and isn't supported here. /j #howtobecome133thackz0r
[07:58] <patoncito1> Hi,
[07:58] <patoncito1> i recently purchase a Benq laptop (joybook S57B) and i experience trouble with high temperature of the cpu : the bios turn off the machine to prevent CPU overheating. I'm currently running kernel <IP_ADDRESS>-generic which comes with lucid alpha2 (january-14). sensors-detect do not detects the cpu's fan.
[07:58] <patoncito1> The cooling cpu fan seems do not work at all when the kernel boot, and that happened with all debian-like distro i tried (karmic, lenny, debian testing, knoppix). However i'd that when i turn off the laptop the ubuntu logo remain on the screen (which is another bug i guess linked with this alpha release) and suddenly the fan is working...
[07:58] <patoncito1> I first post on some forum to ask help and search topic about my problem (i found the reporting bug/451337) in order to find a patch to solve that issue. Does you know a patch already released for lucid? I guess my problem is a little different regarding all the kernels i tried. I now consider that a best option will be to change the cpu cooling fan for another one compatible with the ubuntu hardware request. Can you please help me to solve that issue
[07:58] <FloodBot3> patoncito1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> patoncito1:  lucid support in #ubuntu+1
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> patoncito1:  and if its happiong with many different disrtos. it may be a kernel issue
[08:00] <patoncito1> i think so
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> laptop makers have their own idea of what 'standards' are.  they like to make up their own
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> 'new' laptops and mb's are often the most problematic. :(
[08:01] <Dr_Willis> patoncito1:   if theres a bug posted - keep testing lucid on it and report progress/if it ever gets fixed to the bug reports
[08:02] <Jasonrj> I just connected my xubuntu laptop to wifi and checked my email. Only took two days too!
[08:02] <Jasonrj> Thanks for your help people.
[08:02] <jeeez> how do i make top display memory in MB?
[08:02] <JamesG> Two days? Last time I installed a laptop it took me about 45 minutes from inserting the disk to being online
[08:03] <Ademan> jeeez: a -h (human readable) option is popular with most standard commands
[08:03] <Jasonrj> Took me longer than 45 just to let the install run
[08:03] <triplexxx> Jasonrj: So how do you like ubuntu????
[08:03] <patoncito1> Dr_Willis: i read some about the fan cooling issue, most of them solve by patch. I will open an new bug thanks
[08:03] <Ademan> jeeez: -H rather... heh
[08:03] <Jasonrj> My wifi hardware was not supported, had to use ndiswrapper. This is my first time using linux so I had no idea what I was doing at all.
[08:03] <jeeez> Ademan: thanks
[08:03] <JamesG> Jasonrj: Ok, then you're doing pretty well. Getting ndiswrapper to work can be.. challenging.
[08:03] <Jasonrj> triplexxx: Nice so far, I like how much I can customize the menus and stuff, running faster than XP was as well.
[08:04] <Ademan> jeeez: no thanks necessary, also, top doesn't appear to support that option lol
[08:04] <jeeez> Ademan: still not in mB, shows it as %
[08:04] <jeeez> Ademan: yeah :(
[08:04] <hackoo> llutz: ok thanks, i dont want to spoof, anyways is it a real channel suggested ny you.
[08:04] <hackoo> by*
[08:04] <llutz> hackoo: just kidding, sorry
[08:05] <hackoo> np
[08:05] <triplexxx> Jasonrj: you can watch youtube videos to find so of the latest how to use this if visual helps a lot just search for product
[08:05] <jeeez> i just want to profile memory usage of a program, i was doing `top | grep app`
[08:05] <Ademan> jeeez: you do know that the VIRT and RES are virual and resident memory respectively right?
[08:05] <triplexxx> Jasonrj: have you found a list of compatible software????
[08:05] <jeeez> Ademan: yup
[08:05] <jeeez> oh yeah
[08:06] <Ademan> i'm not sure how they calculate the percentage (resident / physical ?) but you should be able to determine a useful value from virt and res
[08:06] <jeeez> :|
[08:06] <Jasonrj> triplexxx: Doing that now, my biggest problem was a major bug I ran into with my network manager, and also the driver I found on a forum was for 64bit which I am not using, but didn't realize it for a few hours :O
[08:06] <jeeez> Ademan: sorry :D
[08:06] <Ademan> jeeez: :-p
[08:06] <Jasonrj> triplexxx: I've just started browsing software from the add/remove software menu
[08:07] <triplexxx> Jasonrj: just watch youtube videos on that software add/remove will take all night
[08:08] <Jasonrj> triplexxx: Will do :)
[08:09] <triplexxx> Jasonrj: try this link also http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html#5
[08:10] <Jasonrj> Awesome, thanks
[08:13] <duke_> how i can display output of files or programms a deamon is in use
[08:14] <Daughain> Any other ideas for the "Nautilus cannot handle 'network' locations" error?
[08:14] <r00tintheb0x> duke_, I don't get what you're saying.
[08:14] <obiwan_> ayall guys, please could you tell me if you think using same keypair for encryption and signing would be dangerous in terms of security?
[08:14] <obiwan_> i don't like to use two keypairs, one for signing and one for encrypting, but if it's dangerous to use a single one for both, i may think about it
[08:17] <Daughain> OK, how about where is the conf file for nautilus?
[08:17] <joecromo23> que onda
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  if a new user has the same issue. then that points to it not being a user config file issue
[08:18] <obiwan_> hola joecromo23 jeje , te explico este canal es el oficial y usan ingles como idioma, para español entra en #ubuntu-es
[08:19] <duke_> isnt this output a bit weird never heard of avahi http://pastebin.com/m276f8949
[08:20] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: The full error message says;Could not display"network:///" Nautilus cannot handle "network" locations
[08:21] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: The extra '/' in there took me a while to notice...
[08:21] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: SO, can I remove that extra '/'??=)
[08:21] <Dr_Willis>  network:///   is the url it uses here for the network. so 3 /// is right
[08:21] <lucky> hi, how do i add a kernel option with grub2 in 9.10 ?
[08:22] <nahy> i have pidgin and need to know how to configure it's OTR feature
[08:22] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Damn, every time I thni I found something that will help.. =)
[08:22] <xiong> Hi. System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects has three radio buttons: None, Normal, Extra. I set this to Normal but after every reboot, it reverts to None. Does anyone know where this setting is stored and what might be keeping it from storing properly?
[08:22] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  thers some gnome service/gvfs thing that handles that stuff. some hiow you managed to remove/stop it im guessing
[08:22] <Daughain> xiong: Are you closing out of visual effects properly?
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> i wonder if you could somehow force a reinstall of ubuntu-desktop,
[08:23] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: OK, where is it?
[08:23] <xiong> Daughain, Do you mean, am I closing out the window by clicking the close box?
[08:23] <Daughain> xiong: Yes.
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  you could just move all the users .* setting type dirs to some other directory if you want to test the users settings
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  but i dont think its a user setting issue
[08:24] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: In other words, I may as well as reinstall ubuntu from scratch.
[08:24] <Daughain> That would seriously suck./
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  you did check the forums and bug reports?
[08:24] <iflema> lucky https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Custom%20Menu%20Entries
[08:24] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  try smb:///    see if that work
[08:25] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: No, because I dont expect this is a bug, and, next week is too long for me to try and mess around in forums to find my answer.
[08:25] <cowbud> !help
[08:25] <xiong> Daughain, I am pretty sure that's not it. I can't swear it, because I haven't tried that particular cycle of action as an experiment. But I habitually close windows of that sort; I don't leave them open through reboot. In fact, I habitually close all applications manually before reboot (although, I suppose, not before crashing). I've seen this failure to retain settings consistently through many iterations of try-and-see; it's cro
[08:25] <xiong> pped up since upgrade to Karmic.
[08:26] <lucky> iflema: i don't want to add a custom entry, i just want to add a single kernel parameter
[08:26] <duke_> i just wanna know the file started this service
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  it appears to be related to 'gvfs' some how. from what i just googled.
[08:26] <Daughain> xiong: Just a basic question.....Though, if you ugradedm instead of doinbg a fesh karmic install, that could be the issue right there, xiong . Upgrade has prived to be unreliable.
[08:26] <duke_> because somehow there are services getting started on my system dont know where belong
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  its a 'bug' because removing kubuntu or kde or whatever dident properly set it back. would be my logic
[08:26] <iflema> lucky /etc/default/grub https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[08:27] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Where is gfvs?
[08:27] <lucky> iflema: yes i read through the wiki and i t doesn't make a lot of sense :(
[08:27] <xiong> Daughain, It's not the only issue I've had. I'm seriously thinking of shoving all my files onto DVD and doing a repartition (anyway) and fresh install. You can understand if I'm not eager.
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  its a special feature of gnome to allow remote filesystem/virtual filesystem features like network:/// and smb:/// and ftp:///
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  theres a .gvfs directroy in the users home.
[08:28] <duke_> isnt there a comment to find file which started service
[08:28] <Daughain> xiong: DUSnno about a rrpart, but fresh install of karmic is the way to go.
[08:28] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: ok, time to take a look at that.
[08:28] <iflema> lucky whats the required parameter... you could just make a custom entry with the parameter included
[08:28] <xiong> Daughain, I feel my partitioning scheme was suboptimal; this is not a Karmic issue, merely something to be done before a fresh install.
[08:28] <phobos_> hello
[08:28] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  does 'smb:///' show the samba/wiondiows shares?
[08:29] <lucky> iflema: nohz=off
[08:29] <Daughain> xiong: Ok....Then, yeah, thats prolly thge best way to go.
[08:29] <Daughain> dr_ No such file/.directory
[08:29] <iflema> lucky good luck
[08:29] <Daughain> Dr_Willis:  No such file/dir
[08:29] <xiong> I wish I had some idea what I have to do *after* a fresh install to get my stuff back off DVD and into the box. It's one thing to restore home/; but there's all the other stuff, like all the CPAN modules I've installed and who knows what else.
[08:29] <lucky> iflema: i'm just going to stick it in grub.cfg
[08:29] <lucky> iflema: i'll re-add it when it gets wiped out
[08:29] <iflema> lucky negative
[08:29] <ssm2017> hello
[08:30] <ssm2017> where is my mac adress stored under karmic ?
[08:30] <xiong> I'm sorry to say I have not kept a paper record of everything done to the system. I have the notebook now, ready to fill in from the point of the repartition onwards.
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  how about file:///home  or file:////home
[08:30] <Dhananjay2> ssm2017 ifconfig
[08:30] <ssm2017> someone is speaking about /etc/iftab but i cant find id
[08:30] <XDS> does adobe air work well on ubuntu ?
[08:30] <phobos_> plz I have a problem with my firewall and noip2 , can u tell me plz on what port noip2 is runing plz?? :)
[08:31] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Nope.
[08:31] <Dhananjay2> quit
[08:31] <ssm2017> Dhananjay2, my problem is that my network car is not working because this is a virtual machine that doesnt have the good mac adress so i need to change it because ifconfig is telling me "no such device"
[08:31] <Daughain> Also nothing in the .gfvs folder either....
[08:32] <ssm2017> XDS, adobe air is working fine for me
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends
[08:32] <XDS> ssm2017 how about the pandora one desktop app ?
[08:32] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  then log out/back in and try it
[08:32] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Whats a backend anyway?
[08:33] <ssm2017> XDS, i dont know this, im just using a simple air app that is not making problems
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> somthing that runs in the background
[08:33] <ssm2017> what is the file /etc/iftab ?
[08:33] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends libgnomevfs2-extra       perhaps...
[08:33] <hspaans> xiong: for CPAN you can use dh-make-perl and with dpkg --get-selections and dpkg --set-selections you can export and load a package list
[08:33] <Daughain> Wating for the first install to run. =)
[08:33] <kinja-sheep> Daughain: "a software program that controls operations not specified by the user"
[08:34] <Daughain> kinja-sheep: Thanks.
[08:34] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: gimme a min to logout.
[08:34] <xiong> According to many sources, it's not necessary to enable Compiz by selecting Visual Effects; one just goes straight to CompizConfig. I don't find this the case.
[08:34] <lucky> I'm still at a loss for this.  My hardware needs a kernel parameter to run, i'm running Ubuntu 9.10.  How do I add a kernel parameter for bootup?
[08:34] <iflema> lucky ill hint some what... if ya gut grub.cfg add that to custom menu, then knockout some of the important ones in /etc/grub.d and BAM you customisable
[08:34]  * Dr_Willis just googled for ---> Nautilus cannot handle "network" locations 9.10    and is repeating what he found on the link that said [SOLVED] :)
[08:35] <lucky> iflema: i don't understand
[08:35] <iflema> lucky its cryptic
[08:35] <xiong> hspaans, Do you mean dpkg for the aptitude package installs?
[08:35] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Thats what I needed. =)
[08:36] <rikkudo> xiong: If you have not installed the compiz config manager then you will have to enable the Visual Effects
[08:36] <hspaans> xiong: aptitude is just a front-end for dpkg
[08:36] <rdz> hi all. i am on ubuntu karmic and it seems, tha cpu frequency scaling doesn't work reliably, often when i run application or commands, that eat 100% cpu, cpu frequency stays at 800MHz instead of switching to 2400MHz
[08:36] <llutz> hspaans: aptitude is a frontend to apt, not dkpg
[08:36] <llutz> dpkg
[08:36] <Daughain> Now I need to fgure out the rest of the configuratio I need for what I want...
[08:36]  * Dr_Willis just googled for ---> Nautilus cannot handle "network" locations 9.10    and is repeating what he found on the link that said [SOLVED] :)
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  :P
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  now its ODD that ubuntu-desktop metapaciage dident pull that in.
[08:37] <rdz> what is even worse: since ubuntu karmic i cannot compile my own version of the cpufreq module, since it's a part of the kernel (no module anymore)
[08:37] <triplexxx> Got a link for apt-get , apptitude and packmanger...
[08:37] <RocketLauncher> Openbox won't start.
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  and i cant imagine why removeing kde would remove it.. what else did you do to it? :)
[08:38] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Lets say I have not had good results trying google.
[08:38] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: Lemme grab some coffee while I try to remember what I difd and in what order.
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  Time to increase your google fu skills then young padawan....
[08:38] <xiong> rikkudo, I have installed CompizConfig. But when I reboot, Compiz is disabled. I have to go to System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects and select "Normal" to enable. I don't know why; this is only since Karmic upgrade.
[08:39] <hspaans> xiong: http://kevin.vanzonneveld.net/techblog/article/restore_packages_using_dselectupgrade/
[08:40] <xiong> hspaans, Gotcha. So I use the dh- suite to restore my CPAN modules, dpkg to restore my software installs generally -- all those I've installed through Synaptic or apt. What other things must I be careful to backup and restore?
[08:40] <hspaans> llutz: whatever makes you happy
[08:40] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: fu google is right. =)
[08:41] <hspaans> xiong: dh-make-perl can be used to create packages so you always know what has been installed
[08:41] <Daughain> Dr_Willis: OK, I uninstalled samba while in kde, then did a reinstall. That didnt do what I wanted, so I used autoremove ... --purge to remove samba....
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  whats scary is i juist googled for the exact error message with '9.10' at the end. :)
[08:41] <RocketLauncher> Openbox wont start... if I start it from xterm it works fine. Any idea why?
[08:41] <RocketLauncher> i dont know how to save a log or anything so i cant reall do much
[08:41] <hspaans> xiong: you may want to keep a copy of /etc as well for future configuration issues
[08:41] <Gesi> hi
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> Daughain:  i still dont see how that would of affected gvfs at all.  but autoremove MIGHT of done somtjhing if you had removed ubuntu-desktop also
[08:42] <Gesi> how can i delete a folder i created