[08:56] <beener> im not just my friend also have had conection problem after that one update
[08:56] <beener> one cant conect to nothing
[08:57] <beener> kopote
[08:57] <blazinfire> yea thats right.
[08:57] <stdin> xorg doesn't have anything to do with wireless, or any networking, I can't see a possible connection
[08:58] <blazinfire> oh another thing that might be leading to the same situation. i cant even add any programs with the program manager.
[08:58] <beener> im not saying that it is that im just saything the update that had the xorg in it is when things went bad
[08:59] <blazinfire> i really think it revolves directly with v 7.10 cuz the previous version of ubuntu and kubuntu was fine
[08:59] <beener> @ blazin what does it say?
[08:59] <beener> @ blazin does it give you a comit error?
[09:00] <blazinfire> give me a sec. i'm tryin to remember what it said. i'm in windows atm
[09:00] <beener> @stdin im fairly new at this though i am learning. so im not realy sure of what would be causeing things and how to trouble shoot them correctly
[09:01] <Agent_bob> well blazinfire google hates me.  i was looking for a post about the network issue you described    i have seen it in here several times  but don't recall what the actual problem is, unless it's a dns server issue.
[09:02] <beener> @stdin the main thing i want is to be able to conect to the internet wirelessly. and to be stable instead of takeing more then 30 min to conect and work right
[09:02] <Agent_bob> seems that maybe it's something about the   /etc/resolv.conf file.
[09:02] <stdin> beener: the last time I had an update to xorg was 2008-01-27 to version 2:<IP_ADDRESS>.dfsg-12ubuntu8.3
[09:02] <blazinfire> i dont remember the error. i thought i had it wrote down
[09:02] <beener> @stdin yea thats when things started to go array
[09:03] <Agent_bob> blazinfire check your dns nameserver ip and when in linux check /etc/resolv.conf   for the same info.   i think that's where your problem may be.
[09:03] <blazinfire> well i've checked everything i could think of on my side of my connection and everything checks fine
[09:04] <Agent_bob> blazinfire and is the linux box behind a gateway ?
[09:04] <beener> @stdin im not saying that it was xorg just after that whole update every thing went array such as the icon on the status bar apearing on the top left corner and the kicker crashing more often and also some apps dont open on the first click
[09:04] <blazinfire> no
[09:05] <Agent_bob> ok. then router ?
[09:05] <beener> @stdin not to mension the even more instability in the wireless.  but i can deal with the others i just need to be wireless
[09:05] <blazinfire> oh wait. sry. yea it behind a gateway
[09:05] <blazinfire> 4 a.m. lol
[09:06] <Agent_bob> ok.  then you may also need a    route add default <ip of the gateway>     command to get you cookin' wif gas.
[09:06] <blazinfire> ahhh. i also was trying to connect to a direct ip address (still doesn't let me connect)
[09:10] <Agent_bob> blazinfire your last post sounds more like a routing issue.    i don't know how knetwork manager handels that sort of thing,   but the route command is simple enough.
[09:10] <beener>  @stdin i cant figure out why the bcm43xx is so unstable but it is. so i was told from someone to try ndiswrapper.
[09:10] <pete_> Hello,is there anyway i can upgrade to 7.10 without having to reinstall
[09:10] <beener> pakeg manager
[09:11] <Agent_bob> pete_ from ?
[09:11] <pete_> UK
[09:11] <Agent_bob> to 7.10  from ?.??
[09:11] <pete_> 6.06
[09:11] <Agent_bob> ummm it's not reccomended
[09:11] <pete_> if i run cat /etc/issue its 6.06
[09:12] <pete_> ok so can i reinstall using the new live cd and keep all my software and files
[09:12] <Agent_bob> distupgrade is made for one relase at a time.  so that would be a 3 step upgrade.
[09:12] <pete_> its used as a server so i need to keep
[09:12] <pete_> i see
[09:13] <beener> @stdin now ndiswrapper give me this | FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.22-14-generic/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko': No such file or directory
[09:13] <pete_> i installed ubuntu 7.10 on ps3 which is pretty cool!
[09:13] <Agent_bob> pete_ you can keep anything in /home if it's a seperate file system   other wise it's not recommended to install over an earler version without reformating
[09:13] <pete_> ok
[09:13] <pete_> well ill jsut back it all up to a gb
[09:13] <pete_> tb
[09:14] <pete_> im pretty new to linux, only been using it about 2 mounths
[09:14] <pete_> got Pissed of with windows lol!
[09:15] <pete_> Any tips for me when using linux?
[09:15] <stdin> beener: make sure you have linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic installed then
[09:16] <beener> how?
[09:16] <Agent_bob> tar --one-file-system -czf backup_name_and_location.tgz /       where "backup_name_and_location.tgz"  would be on another filesystem.   makes a good backup
[09:16] <pete_> ok
[09:16] <pete_> cool
[09:16] <pete_> im quite young to do all this stuff so might need extra help :)
[09:17] <stdin> beener: however you want, in a package manager or with "dpkg -l | grep linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic"
[09:17] <Agent_bob> actually withoug the z in -czf   and called *.tar  is faster.  not compressed.
[09:17] <pete_> ok cool
[09:17] <pete_> can we do private chat?
[09:17] <beener> o
[09:17] <Agent_bob> if you are registered you can.  i'm not so i can't.
[09:17] <Agent_bob> :)
[09:17] <pete_> ahh ok im not registered
[09:18] <pete_> so do you know anything to do with WINE
[09:18] <pete_> as i have loads of school apps i need to run on my laptop aswell
[09:18] <beener> ii  linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic     2.6.22-14.37                         Ubuntu supplied Linux modules for version 2
[09:18] <Agent_bob> too much wine and you'll wake up with headache
[09:18] <pete_> yeh well, hehe
[09:18] <neville> pete_ Have a look at #winehq , and http://www.winehq.org
[09:18] <pete_> aperntly its software to run microsoft software
[09:19] <pete_> ok
[09:19] <pete_> ta
[09:19] <neville> The application database would no doubt be what you are after
[09:19] <Agent_bob> wine is wine is not an emulator
[09:19] <jussi01> !appdb
[09:19] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[09:19] <stdin> beener: then you need to reinstall it, "sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic"
[09:20] <pete_> I tryed getting my network maneger to install Linux on all the school computers and server:) But he said NO:(
[09:20] <beener> thisll fix it right
[09:20] <Agent_bob> pete_ yeah typical.
[09:20] <pete_> just because he dont know how to use it
[09:20] <pete_> well and most of the 900 other students
[09:20] <pete_> heh
[09:21] <stdin> beener: it'll reinstall the kernel module and let ndiswrapper work
[09:21] <Agent_bob> pete_ yep.
[09:21] <jussi01> !ot | pete_
[09:21] <ubotu> pete_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:21] <pete_> were the hell is that?
[09:21] <beener> its dun so i should rerun modprobe and it should run right, right
[09:21] <pete_> ahh
[09:21] <Agent_bob> jussi01 where you been all day?
[09:21] <jussi01> Agent_bob: sleeping :)
[09:21] <Agent_bob> OK.
[09:22] <stdin> beener: should
[09:22] <Agent_bob> well gat it's your turn.
[09:22] <beener> OMG
[09:22] <Agent_bob> @jussi01 ^
[09:22] <beener> YOUR A SAVIOR
[09:22] <Agent_bob> tag
[09:22] <Agent_bob> sheesh.   s/gat/tag/g
[09:22] <beener> er... i dont rember the comand to alow it to start automaticly
[09:23] <Agent_bob> i'm not lysdexic thank you i as am.
[09:23] <Agent_bob> good night everybody.
[09:23] <beener> thanks for the help before
[09:24] <beener> take care
[09:24] <jussi01> night Agent_bob
[09:24] <stdin> beener: sudo ndiswrapper -m
[09:25] <beener>  er... more errors
[09:25] <stdin> * then "echo ndiswrapper |sudo tee -a /etc/modules"
[09:25] <stdin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:26] <pete_> anyone know anything about smaba and nertworking?
[09:26] <jussi01> pete_: some, what do you need to know?
[09:27] <pete_> ok well, i installed ubuntu on my ps3 and have a media server in myroom, which has all my music stored on. i want to be able to accsess it from my ps3
[09:27] <beener> error >;you should delete that at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper-1.9 line 790, <MODPROBE> line 388.  module configuration contains directive install pci:v000014E4d00004324sv*sd*bc*sc*i* /sbin/modprobe ndiswrapper
[09:27] <jussi01> !samba > pete_
[09:27] <beener> could that be because i have already dun that ?
[09:28] <pete_> ok i sudo apt-get install samba and it working
[09:28] <pete_> but i need to change the workgroup? in the smb.conf file
[09:29] <beener> by dun that i mean the ndiswrapper -m (not knowing what is did)
[09:30] <blackflag-at-wor> hello all :)
[09:31] <blackflag-at-wor> I want to have to sreens  with a mastrox G400 dualhead
[09:31] <blackflag-at-wor> but I only have 1 Monitor that is riunning
[09:32] <blackflag-at-wor> can someone help 2 get 2 monitors running?
[09:32] <blackflag-at-wor> II configure over systems settings  but its not running
[09:33] <jussi01> !dualhead | blackflag-at-wor
[09:33] <ubotu> blackflag-at-wor: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[09:38] <c1|freaky> is there any good tool for posting to blogs for kde/kubuntu?
[09:42] <jussi01> !info wordpress | c1|freaky
[09:42] <ubotu> c1|freaky: wordpress (source: wordpress): an award winning weblog manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.2-1ubuntu1.3 (gutsy), package size 783 kB, installed size 4200 kB
[09:42] <c1|freaky> no
[09:42] <c1|freaky> i mean
[09:42] <c1|freaky> a gui tool for posting to blogs, sorry
[09:44] <blazinfire> hey you all
[09:44] <blazinfire> i fixed the prob
[09:44] <blazinfire> with me not running a network. some how i disabled the network manager and everything works fine
[09:45] <blazinfire> and with the update software i guess. for some reason it wants me to update to kubuntu 7.10. i installed 7.10 ? any answers
[09:45] <||arifaX> c1|freaky: and the package is called wordpress?
[09:45] <c1|freaky> no
[09:45] <c1|freaky> i mean a tool for posting to wordpress/drupal etc.
[09:45] <||arifaX> c1|freaky: whats the name?
[09:46] <||arifaX> need that
[09:46] <c1|freaky> im looking for one
[09:47] <prince_jammys> c1|freaky: i just did "apt-cache search blog" and several showed up
[09:48] <prince_jammys> c1|freaky: kicker-kblogger - KDE applet to post weblog entries
[09:50] <c1|freaky> thanks ;D
[09:50] <c1|freaky> im trying some kde4 tool ;D
[09:54] <blackflag-at-wor> ahh thanks!!
[09:56] <blackflag-at-wor> !Xinerama
[09:56] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[10:10] <ziyue> hello?
[10:10] <jussi01> !hi | ziyue
[10:10] <ubotu> ziyue: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[10:10] <ziyue> hi,everyone
[10:11] <ziyue> hi,jussi01 and ubotu~
[10:11] <jussi01> !bot | ziyue
[10:11] <ubotu> ziyue: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:11] <jussi01> :)
[10:12] <jussi01> ziyue: how can we help today?
[10:12] <ziyue> does anybody know if there is a vim GUI for KDE?
[10:13] <Aloha> ziyue, there is a vim gui for gnome ;_
[10:13] <ziyue> yes,i installed it on kububtu,it does not work
[10:14] <ziyue> but thx anyways,Aloha
[10:14] <sebastian^> good morning folks
[10:15] <ziyue> morning,sebastian
[10:15] <SlimeyPete> ziyue: doesn't work? Odd. It works for me.
[10:16] <Aloha> ziyue, http://www.yzis.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
[10:17] <ziyue> i mean it i could not find the GUI of vim on my kubuntu
[10:18] <ziyue> cool~Aloha,that seems to be what I need
[10:18] <ziyue> thanks,Aloha
[10:19] <Aloha> ziyue, np
[10:20] <ziyue> have you tried KDE4,Aloha?
[10:20] <Aloha> ziyue, nope. i use xfce actually heh
[10:20] <Aloha> im downloading kbuntu-desktop right now
[10:21] <Aloha> kubuntu*
[10:21] <ziyue> actually,I am a newbie for linux
[10:21] <ziyue> haha
[10:21] <Aloha> i've been using linux since 97
[10:21] <prince_jammys> get ready for the great kubuntu :)
[10:21] <prince_jammys> have you used it before?
[10:22] <ziyue> I have to use Intel fortran compiler for my project,so installed linux
[10:22] <Aloha> yeah, not extensively though
[10:22] <Aloha> ziyue, people still program in fortran?
[10:22] <ziyue> well,i didn't hear about linux at that time
[10:22] <prince_jammys> Aloha: i recommend "yakuake" once you have it
[10:22] <ziyue> yes,science still use it
[10:22] <prince_jammys> i recommend it to everyone
[10:22] <Aloha> prince_jammys, what is it?
[10:23] <Aloha> PriceChild, oh its that terminal, yeah?
[10:23] <prince_jammys> Aloha: term emulator
[10:23] <Aloha> PriceChild, i tried it in xfce was kinda rough heh i'll try it in kde
[10:23] <ziyue> yakuake?
[10:23] <prince_jammys> Aloha: actually just uses KDE's konsole, but stays out of the way until you hit F12
[10:23]  * Aloha is not used to things flying in from the top of the screen
[10:24] <prince_jammys> Aloha: insta term is what it is
[10:24] <prince_jammys> Aloha: ah, so you know it
[10:24] <Aloha> kde apps are pretty good
[10:25] <Aloha> i'm a fan of konqueror, just because i liek KHTML over gecko
[10:25] <Aloha> like*
[10:25] <prince_jammys> Aloha: love konqueror
[10:25] <Aloha> firefox is good but it has some memoy issues
[10:26] <prince_jammys> Aloha: konq can do so much
[10:26] <prince_jammys> Aloha: also firefox acts funny sometimes in KDE
[10:26] <Aloha> prince_jammys, what do you mena by "do"?
[10:26] <Aloha> mean*
[10:26] <prince_jammys> Aloha: oh, you know, open terminals, read man pages, read info pages, preview files, etc
[10:27] <Aloha> prince_jammys, nice
[10:27] <prince_jammys> Aloha: just man: command and you get man pages in html, nicely formatted
[10:28] <Aloha> prince brb just finished downloading kubuntu-desktop gonna restart in it
[10:28] <prince_jammys> Aloha: but now for some reason they're making dolphin the default file browser, which i change right away
[10:28] <prince_jammys> ok see ya
[10:28] <ziyue> i have to go back to my work,see you later,Aloha
[10:29] <ziyue> see you later,everybody
[10:30] <Aloha> prince_jammys: back
[10:31] <Aloha> not too bad
[10:33] <Aloha> virtual keyboard
[10:33] <Aloha> prince_jammys: what email client do you use?
[10:34] <prince_jammys> Aloha: kmail
[10:35] <prince_jammys> Aloha: i use mostly kde stuff -- good stuff once you get used to it
[10:35] <Aloha> prince_jammys: i'm used to thunderbird heh
[10:36] <prince_jammys> Aloha: yeah i used to use that -- very similar, just themed differently
[10:37] <prince_jammys> they're almost the same, other than appearance, as far as the use i give it
[10:38] <Aloha> i'm loading it right now
[10:38] <Aloha> i'm chatting in konqueror
[10:41] <Ginungaggap> good morning
[10:41] <prince_jammys> Aloha: i didn't know you could do that
[10:41] <Ginungaggap> does anybody know how to make ubuntu shut down, when I press the poweroff-button on my casis?
[10:42] <Ayabara> Anyone with a "Intel® Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-PCI Card". I have one on my XPS M1530, and it's not all ok..
[10:47] <Aloha> prince_jammys: i mean konversation... sorry everything starts with a "K" heh
[10:49] <prince_jammys> Aloha: yeah the K thing is really overkill
[10:50] <prince_jammys> though it makes identifying kde apps easy
[10:51] <Aloha> prince_jammys: yeah its pretty nice. where is the "about kde" app?
[10:53] <Divilinux> hi all..anyone can give me the plasmarc txt please?
[10:53] <prince_jammys> Aloha: everywhere in "Help"
[10:54] <Aloha> prince_jammys: thnx!
[10:54] <Aloha> prince_jammys: what IM client do you run? kopete?
[10:54] <prince_jammys> Aloha: try in konqueror for example "man: grep"
[10:55] <prince_jammys> Aloha: i don't use one
[10:55] <prince_jammys> kde
[10:55] <prince_jammys> kde's is kopete
[10:55] <prince_jammys> which shockingly also begins with a k
[10:56] <Aloha> prince_jammys: man grep doesn't show anything?!
[10:56] <prince_jammys> man: grep with a colon
[10:56] <prince_jammys> or just man: if you want a menu of everything
[10:56] <Aloha> prince_jammys: gotcha
[10:57] <Aloha> prince_jammys: No man page matching to grep found.
[10:57] <prince_jammys> the renegade kde app is gwenview, which amazingly begins with a "g" of all letters
[10:57] <prince_jammys> now that's a problem
[10:57] <prince_jammys> does it work in  a term?
[10:58] <Aloha> yeah
[10:58] <prince_jammys> weird
[10:58] <prince_jammys> i didn't install anything to make it do that
[10:58] <Aloha> prince_jammys: did you install kubuntu cd?
[10:59] <prince_jammys> Aloha: no, i installed it after having gnome
[10:59] <Aloha> prince_jammys: me too.... hrm thats why i asked
[10:59]  * Aloha shrugs
[10:59] <prince_jammys> Aloha: maybe if you go to the main menu and "help" and then index man pages from there
[10:59] <prince_jammys> they're all viewable there also, or should be
[11:00] <Aloha> prince_jammys: main menu?
[11:00] <prince_jammys> if you do a lot of manning, like me, it's very handy
[11:00] <prince_jammys> the big K on the lower left
[11:00] <Aloha> oh KDE menu
[11:01] <prince_jammys> Aloha: K-Menu->Help->Search Options tab on the left ->"Build Search Index"
[11:02] <Aloha> prince_jammys: building
[11:03] <prince_jammys> Aloha: kate is also a great little text editor, especially if you write scripts
[11:03] <Aloha> prince_jammys: what about wring code?
[11:03] <prince_jammys> don't know
[11:03] <prince_jammys> i use it for perl,php,bash
[11:03] <erik__> how do I work with my wireless settings in kubuntu with kde4? i had it in kde3 but now I cannot find it
[11:04] <Aloha> prince_jammys: i'm a ruby programmer
[11:04] <prince_jammys> Aloha: i'd be surprised if it didn't highlight ruby syntax
[11:04] <user-land> Hi, is there a disadvantage from installing Kubuntu 64bit version ?
[11:04] <Aloha> prince_jammys: cool
[11:05] <prince_jammys> comes with it's own terminal tab so you can run your stuff as you edit
[11:05] <SlimeyPete> user-land: you have to fiddle around a bit to make Flash work, apparently.
[11:05] <SlimeyPete> otherwise no, not really
[11:05] <user-land> are you running it, slimeypete ?
[11:06] <Aloha> prince_jammys: when i buld man i get htdig failed
[11:06] <SlimeyPete> user-land: I run it on my desktop. I haven't tried installing Flash but everything else seems to work.
[11:06] <prince_jammys> Aloha: i have no idea what that's about
[11:07] <user-land> great, slimeypit, so is it faster then ?
[11:07] <Aloha> oh well
[11:07] <SlimeyPete> user-land: not sigificantly. A little.
[11:07] <SlimeyPete> Aloha: make sure you have htdig installed?
[11:07] <user-land> thank you :-)
[11:08] <Aloha> SlimeyPete: oh that would help ;)
[11:08] <prince_jammys> Aloha: apparently you're not the only with this problem, according to google
[11:09] <Aloha> i like the terminal program yakaouko or whatever
[11:09] <Aloha> yakuake
[11:09] <prince_jammys> Aloha: yeah it's super handy
[11:10] <Aloha> kde is cool. first time i've used it in a few versions
[11:10] <prince_jammys> such a charming name too
[11:10] <Aloha> yeah kate has ruby highlighting
[11:12] <Aloha> woo build index is working now
[11:12] <Aloha> SlimeyPete: thnx
[11:12] <prince_jammys> Aloha: kate is good for script editing (select+ Ctrl -D -- comment out, Ctrl-I indent --plus shift uncomments, unindents)
[11:12] <prince_jammys> lots of useful stuff
[11:13] <hmmyeh> anyone with some rtl8169 tips for ubuntu? gigabit.... i get good speed on downloads from the ubuntu pc to a xp pc, but uploading from xp > linux seems as slow as 10mbit :S
[11:13] <SaeidZebardast> how to upgrade kubuntu 7.10 to 8.04 ?
[11:15] <Aloha> SaeidZebardast: i would wait until hardy is released
[11:15] <SaeidZebardast> I want to upgrade 8.04 alpha
[11:16] <SaeidZebardast> Aloha: ^
[11:16] <alromaithi> then update
[11:16] <giovanni_h> hi guys
[11:16] <giovanni_h> which kernel should I use? the -386 or the -generic? I have a pentium IV
[11:17] <Aloha> SaeidZebardast: update manager
[11:17] <SaeidZebardast> Aloha: update-manager -d ?
[11:17] <Aloha> SaeidZebardast: system menu
[11:17] <erik__> where's the network manager in kde4? in network settings the top tab i missing compared to kde3..
[11:18] <SaeidZebardast> Aloha: Thanks
[11:18] <Aloha> is google toolbar available for konqueror?
[11:18] <Aloha> SaeidZebardast: np
[11:19] <Aloha> prince_jammys: welcome back
[11:21] <prince_jammys> Aloha: thx - it's my first time using Konversation - wanted to see if it minimized to tray when you close the window
[11:21] <prince_jammys> Aloha: and it didn't
[11:21] <Aloha> prince_jammys: heh, thats one way to find out
[11:24] <Aloha> found another non-K kde app Akregator
[11:24] <erik__> has anyone tried to configure wireless for kde4?
[11:25] <Aloha> erik__: i use wicd
[11:25] <erik__> Aloha: thanks, I'll check it out.. not in apt right?
[11:26] <_Angelus_> guys
[11:26] <_Angelus_> i changed to kubuntu 64bit
[11:26] <_Angelus_> im using kde4.0.1
[11:26] <Aloha> erik__: its the best wireless manager all round IMHO
[11:26] <_Angelus_> an i dont have power saving features
[11:26] <_Angelus_> like suspend to ram..
[11:26] <Aloha> _Angelus_: KDE 4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[11:27] <_Angelus_> Aloha:  i think its more powersaving support then kde4...
[11:27] <_Angelus_> but anyways
[11:29] <Aloha> prince_jammys: OOOOOOHHHH!! i was doing man: grep... not man:grep it works now
[11:29] <prince_jammys> Aloha: pretty nice feature
[11:29] <Aloha> prince_jammys: for sure!
[11:30] <prince_jammys> Aloha: you can also stick a terminal button on the bar if you want, and be able to open a terminal as you browse through files
[11:31] <hmmyeh> got rtl8169 nic, slow upload speed from xp to linux, but awesome speed from linux to xp
[11:31] <hmmyeh> any tips?
[11:31] <prince_jammys> Aloha: the terminal gets opened in whatever directory you're looking at
[11:31] <prince_jammys> Aloha: basically, features galore
[11:31] <prince_jammys> but useful ones
[11:33] <Aloha> anyone know if google toolbar works with konqueror?
[11:33] <Aloha> all my bookmarks are stored there
[11:33] <prince_jammys> Aloha: don't know, but konqueror can probably import them
[11:34] <Aloha> prince_jammys: google exports bookmarks as one big html file heh
[11:34] <prince_jammys> Aloha: yeah konq and firefox do that too
[11:35] <prince_jammys> Aloha: i like it because you have a webpage of bookmarks, instead of a menu
[11:35] <prince_jammys> Aloha: both, actually
[11:39] <Aloha> prince_jammys: how do you change kde themes?
[11:44] <psi_> morning all
[11:44] <psi_> another wonderflly warm day in feb
[11:46] <prince_jammys> Aloha: "kcontrol" in KMenu
[11:47] <Aloha> prince_jammys: don't see it
[11:47] <prince_jammys> Aloha: System-settings?
[11:47] <Aloha> prince_jammys: oh.. that one
[11:47] <Aloha> prince_jammys: thnx
[11:49] <prince_jammys> Aloha: kcontrol is better by the way ... i think they started packaging kde with "system-settings" in an effort to make it have FEWER features .. i recommend installing "kcontrol" to have access to all kinds of settings
[11:49] <Aloha> prince_jammys: ok thnx
[11:50] <Aloha> kde is pretty
[11:50] <Tm_T> prince_jammys: no fewer features, but to be more clear, also kcontrol doesn
[11:50] <prince_jammys> Aloha: apparently one criticism of KDE is that it's TOO configurable -- hence the switch to "system-settings". i don't think KDE should pay attention to those criticisms
[11:50] <Tm_T> 't have maintainer
[11:51] <prince_jammys> Tm_T ah
[11:51] <Aloha> prince_jammys: you can never have too much control over your computer
[11:51] <Tm_T> prince_jammys: Kcontrol is and apparently will stay as unmaintained relic, good one, but still...
[11:51] <prince_jammys> well, you can search for the setting you want in kcontrol just by typing it ... havent used system-settings in a while but i don't remember it having that
[11:52] <prince_jammys> ie.. you have to rifle through all the menus, right?
[11:52] <Tm_T> should have search
[11:52] <prince_jammys> can you change system services .. that kind of stuff?
[11:53] <Tm_T> should
[11:53] <Tm_T> remind you, I'm no systemsettings user, Kcontrol <3
[11:53] <prince_jammys> oh well i take it back then ... maybe i didn't check it out thoroughly
[11:54] <prince_jammys> i just noticed the KDE switch to default apps like dolphin, that seem to have fewer settings than the older ones like konq
[11:55] <Tm_T> prince_jammys: Kubuntu, not KDE
[11:55] <kaan> hi can anyone help me with adept manager?
[11:55] <prince_jammys> Tm_T oh, Kubuntu only?
[11:56] <prince_jammys> Tm_T do you know why the switch to dolphin? to me it just seems worse
[11:56] <Tm_T> prince_jammys: well other distros too, but not KDE itself
[11:56] <Tm_T> prince_jammys: "easier for the new users, not drowning with features"
[11:56] <kaan> it says adept manager's being used by another program and can only start in read-only mode... but i just restarted the computer.... and it still doesn't work
[11:57] <Tm_T> !adeptfix
[11:57] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[11:57] <Tm_T> kaan: ^^
[11:57] <prince_jammys> Tm_T yeah, see i like drowning in features :) so long as they're useful, which in konq, they are
[11:58] <prince_jammys> fewer features starts to remind me of that other OS
[11:59] <kaan> ok trying
[11:59] <kaan> oh sweet
[11:59] <kaan> worked
[11:59] <kaan> thank you
[11:59] <kaan> a newbie question
[11:59] <Aloha> i like kmail better than thunderbird
[11:59] <kaan> what does sudo do?
[11:59] <kaan> :)
[11:59] <Tm_T> !sudo | kaan
[12:00] <ubotu> kaan: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information.
[12:00] <Aloha> kaan: SUperuerDO
[12:00] <Aloha> user*
[12:00] <prince_jammys> kaan: makes you superuser for just a single command
[12:00] <kaan> ah gotcha thanks guys! Adept manager runs now!
[12:00] <kaminix> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/scim/+bug/34282 Is this bug abandoned?
[12:00] <Aloha> bug #34282
[12:01] <Aloha> blah stupid bot
[12:01] <Tm_T> Aloha: is not ;(
[12:01] <Aloha> Tm_T: heh ;)
[12:01] <kaminix> !bug 34282
[12:01] <kaminix> Maybe...
[12:01] <kaminix> Nope. :p
[12:02] <kaminix> Would be nice to be able to write some Japanese in Skype aswell. :p
[12:02] <lousygarua> n00b alert, what is this katapult app launcher thing and how do i change its shortcut key?
[12:03] <kaminix> Or Parley... :)
[12:03] <Tm_T> !katapult | lousygarua
[12:03] <ubotu> lousygarua: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[12:03] <prince_jammys> lousygarua: katapult is like Alt-F2, sort of
[12:03] <prince_jammys> ok sorry i'm new to irc i have to try this. ....
[12:03] <kaminix> I never quite understood the point with Katapult when we have alt+f2 though.
[12:03] <prince_jammys> !ls | prince_jammys
[12:04] <prince_jammys> ok i got a warning
[12:04] <Tm_T> kaminix: "intelligent"
[12:04] <lousygarua> prince_jammys: Tm_T: what if i have Alt+Space mapped to a different function?
[12:04] <kaminix> Tm_T: Intelligent how?
[12:04] <prince_jammys> what is this ! thing?
[12:04] <Tm_T> lousygarua: sorry, I don't use katapult
[12:04] <Tm_T> prince_jammys: control sign for our bot
[12:04] <Tm_T> !bot
[12:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:05] <Tm_T> kaminix: open katapult and write "web"
[12:05] <prince_jammys> !ls
[12:05] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:05] <kaminix> Is there any way to redirect alt + space to alt + F2? Making them do the same thing that is.
[12:05] <prince_jammys> very nice
[12:06] <lousygarua> kaminix: i'm looking for a way
[12:06] <kaminix> Thanks lousygarua :)
[12:06] <lousygarua> kaminix: i've finally installed kubuntu-desktop on my laptop and started playing around with it :)
[12:06] <lousygarua> so... professional.
[12:07] <Aloha> lousygarua: i just installed.. i _really_ like it
[12:07] <kaminix> bug 34282
[12:07] <kaminix> Go bot!
[12:07] <lousygarua> Aloha: GNOME aims more at simplicity and KDE for being hardcore user I think
[12:07] <Tm_T> kaminix: try in query
[12:07] <Tm_T> lousygarua: no
[12:07] <lousygarua> I mean, my grandma would use GNOME rather than KDE :)
[12:08] <Aloha> lousygarua: its really intuitive i think
[12:08] <Aloha> lousygarua: kde i mean
[12:08] <Aloha> lousygarua: i just started using it and everything is really natural
[12:08] <Tm_T> lousygarua: KDE and GNOME are both for beginners and old timers, it's just matter of different approach
[12:08] <lousygarua> Tm_T: yeah i agree
[12:08] <neville> KDE :D :D :D
[12:08] <kaminix> I like KDE better than Gnome in pretty much all aspects, except that the systray messages in Gnome are better looking.
[12:11] <kaminix> There we go, now alt + space and alt + f2 does the same thing ^^
[12:11] <prince_jammys> kaminix: open katapult with alt-space, then do control-c
[12:11] <kaminix> Just unistalled katapult in favor of alt + f2
[12:11] <prince_jammys> kaminix: it should send it to the tray, where you can right click and change config
[12:12] <prince_jammys> kaminix: well, control c works but i don
[12:12] <prince_jammys> 't see where to change shortcut
[12:13] <Aloha> alt+f2 seems way quicker and more versitile
[12:13] <kaminix> Think you misunderstood me. I removed Katapult, then went into keyboard shortcuts and made alt + space an alternative to alt + f2 :)
[12:14] <prince_jammys> aloha: yeah i use alt+f2 -- only bad part is it doesnt autocomplete
[12:14] <kaminix> Autocomplete in alt + f2 would be gold.
[12:14] <prince_jammys> kaminix: gotcha, sorry
[12:14] <prince_jammys> kaminix: gnome has it
[12:14] <Aloha> prince_jammys: single program commands arn't bad though. like "firefox" or "kmail"
[12:14] <prince_jammys> Aloha: oh yeah, it's not a big deal
[12:15] <kaminix> Well, time to do some school work. :/ KWord here I come! Atleast there's some pleasure in doing the work... :p
[12:15] <kaan> which plug-in/codec should i install to watch mpg/avi files?
[12:15] <prince_jammys> Aloha: i usually just do it in yakuake anyway
[12:15] <Aloha> prince_jammys: f12 ftw
[12:15] <Aloha> prince_jammys: thats really growing on me
[12:16] <Aloha> prince_jammys: you ever use fish shell?
[12:16] <prince_jammys> Aloha: whenever i use any other computer i just keep banging f12 expecting yak
[12:16] <prince_jammys> Aloha: no
[12:16] <Aloha> prince_jammys: its pretty cool does a lot of stuff like bash but better
[12:16] <lousygarua> kaminix: for changing the alt+space thing, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110918
[12:17] <kaan> which codec is good?
[12:17] <prince_jammys> Aloha: it's like a user friendly shell, right?
[12:17] <Aloha> prince_jammys: yeah
[12:17] <Aloha> prince_jammys: http://www.fishshell.org/ its my default shell
[12:17] <prince_jammys> Aloha: yeah i've been to that site
[12:17] <Aloha> prince_jammys: cool
[12:20] <Aloha> how do you change from gdm to kdm?
[12:20] <prince_jammys> Aloha: that i don't know ... i still use gdm
[12:20] <prince_jammys> Aloha: system-settings, i would guess
[12:21] <Aloha> prince_jammys: just found it ;)
[12:23] <spiroo> I am curious, does anybody here has an Amarok 2 which can add music to playlist/collection? And no this is not a bug report ;)
[12:24] <prince_jammys> Aloha: other stuff that's worth checking out: kdevelop (for writing software) -- kivio (easy way to make flowcharts) -- kommander (for making guis)
[12:24] <Aloha> prince_jammys: thnx
[12:24] <prince_jammys> kkk
[12:24] <prince_jammys> everything k
[12:24] <Aloha> prince_jammys: haha
[12:25] <prince_jammys> stuff is good
[12:26] <Aloha> i think kde is the future of linux... gnome is too stagnant
[12:26] <arcticpenguin380> does everyone know what linus said about gnome?
[12:26] <Aloha> arcticpenguin380: what does he say?
[12:26] <spiroo> Aloha: So do I ;)
[12:27] <prince_jammys> Aloha: one would think, but ubuntu is mostly gnome
[12:27] <arcticpenguin380> http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS8745257437.html
[12:27] <Aloha> prince_jammys: for now it is... it will probably change :)
[12:27] <prince_jammys> Aloha: kde  better not become the betamax of linux
[12:27] <Aloha> kde has way better integration
[12:27] <_ruben> since i restored my gpg settings from an old pc, i know have a problem in kmail that kmail totally freezes when i click on an email which has any kind of cryptography in it
[12:28] <_ruben> and for some reason i cant select my key in the identity config window
[12:28] <tzanger> good morning
[12:28] <tzanger> is anyone else's kopete crashing out with SEGV this morning when connecting to MSN?
[12:30] <Aloha> haha gnome devlopers aruging with linus about how to use linux
[12:30] <Aloha> he freaking invented linux
[12:30] <hydrogen> and so?
[12:30] <ForgeAus> omg that article is SO right about gnome
[12:31] <ForgeAus> in the first few lines
[12:31] <hydrogen> Linus has always felt the need to start trouble and give out his opinion in inflamatory ways
[12:31] <arcticpenguin380> a few days ago he called HFS+ "utter crap"
[12:32] <hydrogen> it's only "news" because he's linus
[12:32] <hydrogen> nothing to see there, move along
[12:32] <spiroo> Does someone know if you can open and edit .docx files in either open office or koffice?
[12:33] <arcticpenguin380> i wonder what will happen to linux when linus dies or retires.
[12:33] <Aloha> hydrogen: _only_? i take his opinion in very high regard.
[12:34] <arcticpenguin380> i bet AM will take over
[12:34] <hydrogen> Aloha: thats cool, that doesn't mean that a) it's correct or b) anyone else does
[12:34] <hydrogen> anyways
[12:34] <hydrogen> this channel is about support for kubuntu
[12:34] <hydrogen> not the latest thing linus said
[12:34] <hydrogen> please take it to #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:34] <Aloha> hydrogen: that article is half about kde, therefore on topic
[12:34] <Aloha> don't be a hater
[12:35] <hydrogen> no
[12:35] <hydrogen> it's not on topic
[12:35] <hydrogen> the topic is support for kubuntu
[12:36] <Aloha> your last 11 line entries didn't have anything to do with kubuntu support except for the one that said this channel's topic is about that
[12:37] <hydrogen> that's alright
[12:37] <spiroo> .docx files?
[12:37] <hydrogen> I can blame you for that
[12:37] <kaminix> spiroo: I think .docx is for the latest Microsoft Office, you'll most likely have a hard time using those.
[12:38] <hydrogen> I don't particularly see what your problem is.  You are clearly off topic for this channel, just accept it and move the discussion to a more appropriate venue (I'm sure theres a digg story about it!).  Theres no need to clutter this channel with that sillyness
[12:38] <hydrogen> I think openoffice supports it
[12:44] <_BlueCro_> hello. does any of you know why kopete crashes every time when i want to log in?
[12:46] <flipstar> hi i want to buy an s-ata controller card..can you recommend some for *ubuntu or are there working all ?
[12:51] <Briareos> what is changing my menu.lst? I've setup my pc via a disk image where the "root"-entry of the menu.lst was set to hd(0,2). But on the system it is hd(0,0). So i changed that. problem is that after updates via adept this is suddenly reset to hd(0,2) again. can you provide a hint?
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> Briareos, How did you change it?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> the menu.lst file has a line like  #groot(somthing) I think.. thats where it reads it from every time update-grub is ran
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> You dont just change the auto-generated menu items
[12:52] <rodolfo> en español?
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> ## default grub root device
[12:52] <Dr_Willis>  # groot=(hd0,2)
[12:52] <tzanger> is anyone else's kopete crashing out with SEGV this morning when connecting to MSN?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> !es | rodolfo
[12:53] <ubotu> rodolfo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[13:10] <tzd> i need help with my mouse settings or perhaps windows settings please? The active window is now controlled by where my mouse pointer are.
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> tzd,  thats often called 'x-mouse' or.. somthing else.... :) heh - i forget what...
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> Not sure where kde keeps that setting.
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> it used to be  real common with some window managers ages ago.
[13:14] <tzd> Dr_Willis: ok... i'll have a look.. don't know how or when i activated this setting but hopefully I'll find it ;) Thanks
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> night all
[13:17] <tzd> yaay found it. It was called "focus"
[13:32] <BluesKaj> Howdy Folks  : )
[13:38] <flipstar> hi
[13:39] <ForgeAus> hey Blues n flipstar ...
[13:39] <ForgeAus> a little late
[13:40] <BluesKaj> hi ForgeAus
[13:41] <BluesKaj> it's morning here ...I imagine it's pretty late in Oz
[13:47] <Briareos> Dr_Willis isn't that commented out?
[13:49] <Briareos> or is a single '#' in the menu.lst not a comment? it never changed that from # groot=(hd0,2) to # groot=(hd0,0) ... so it could be the solution
[13:49] <Briareos> :)
[13:49] <default_> hi.  question.  Is there a way to save windows positions with Dolphin?
[13:50] <flipstar> Briareos: no # dont have to be a commend, grub parse these lines also
[13:50] <nosrednaekim> windows positions
[13:50] <nosrednaekim> ?
[13:50] <Briareos> flipstar thx
[13:50] <arcticpenguin380> is it possible to get tracker running in kubuntui
[13:51] <default_> windows positions as in when I close a kde or dolphin window it opens next time at the position I last closed it at
[13:51] <Briareos> Dr_Willis thanks for your help. I am sorry I gotta leave to a meeting now, so I cannot stay until your response, but I am pretty sure that your suggestion is the solution
[13:51] <Briareos> bye
[13:51] <prince_jammys> arcticpenguin380: my guess is through system-settings (or kcontrol)->services, but i'm not sure.  there's also strigi, kde's tracker
[13:54] <niall> if you download source using apt, how do you get rid of it?
[13:55] <ForgeAus> if you donwload anything with apt its generally a .deb package
[13:55] <default_> niall: maybe manuallly?  no expert answer from me.
[13:55] <ForgeAus> I don't know much about if there are or not source .deb's but you can simply delete the .deb file
[13:55] <ForgeAus> (apt keeps a cache its probably easier to erase the cache using apt's commands)
[13:56] <nosrednaekim> niall➜ manually, since they are downloaded to wherever you are when you run the command
[13:56] <default_> is there any answer on KDE saving window's positions?
[13:56] <arcticpenguin380> do symbolic links to execituables a security risk
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[13:57] <flipstar> default_: the window position should be saved by default..
[13:57] <nosrednaekim> default_➜ yes, right click on a window's titel bar and select widow preferences or something like that, and then mess arund with the settings, it in there somewhere
[13:58] <default_> ok will look.  thx.  trying now.
[14:03] <MartinCleaver> Hi - I have booted the amd64bit 7.1 live CD - and am in the process of wanting to install
[14:04] <jpatrick> hi MartinCleaver
[14:04] <MartinCleaver> I have one 500gb disk on the drive, it hosts Centos 5.1, and a lot of content I need to keep
[14:04] <MartinCleaver> Hi jpatrick
[14:04] <default_> I made a "window specific setting" that saves the windows positions is this proper for making KDE save windows positions/size?
[14:04] <MartinCleaver> In Step 4, it asks Guided vs. Manual
[14:05] <jpatrick> MartinCleaver: do you not keep your files on a seperate partition?
[14:06] <MartinCleaver> Most of my files are on a NAS box, but I have a bunch of Virtual Machines that are on the local 500gb disk
[14:06] <arcticpenguin380> are symbolic links safe?
[14:06] <MartinCleaver> I did partition the 500gb
[14:06] <jpatrick> arcticpenguin380: yes
[14:06] <prince_jammys> arcticpenguin380: what do you mean safe?
[14:07] <default_> artic wouldn't the same user that makes a symbolic link be the same owner of the fiel being linked?  in general!
[14:07]  * MartinCleaver runs qparted to look at the disk again
[14:07] <default_> like wouldn't links have ownership attributes as well?
[14:07] <arcticpenguin380> link to a program so it starts automaticly at start up
[14:08] <MartinCleaver> ok, so sda1 ext3 100mb, sda2 465gb - unmounted. I *think* my virtual machines are on the sda2
[14:08] <flipstar> symlinks have no permissions
[14:08] <MartinCleaver> but I'd need to mount sda2 to be sure
[14:09] <MartinCleaver> they are managed using the LVM
[14:09] <MartinCleaver> I'd like to dual boot for now
[14:10] <MartinCleaver> so will Guided - use entire disk give me the option to dual boot?
[14:13]  * MartinCleaver waits patiently
[14:14] <default_> oh well it's now remembering windows positions I left thm at.  In windows behaviour it's set to smart positioning and there's no open to individualise the position save.
[14:15] <default_> I must admit Kubuntu is much nicer than previous verisons, but it's not upto the level of going mainstream yet, as in user friendlyness.  Too much bash fixing needed for average joe.
[14:16] <default_> kde4 looks great.
[14:19] <flipstar> MartinCleaver: grub should automaticly detect a second os
[14:19] <flipstar> i never used the guided one so i cant say anything about that
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> default_, depends if you got harware from the HCL or not
[14:20] <default_> yep that's a point, then it's pretty much setup properly
[14:20] <da_didi> I justed downloaded and burned the kubunut latest desktop version and the "check cd media" complains about a broken package and the install fails.. known issue?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> da_didi, did you md5 check the download before you burned?
[14:20] <default_> did you verify the burn Da-did?
[14:21] <MartinCleaver> so, flipstar, if I tell it to use the Entire DIsk, it won't mess with the Centos install?
[14:21] <da_didi> of course not :/
[14:21] <default_> heheh
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> MartinCleaver, if you give the installer unpartitioned space then it will spot it and offer to use it for your Kubuntu install
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> da_didi, then there is your issue. Downloads are not 100% foolproof
[14:23] <default_> the installer is fantastic now. tHe onyl problem I have with it is that if you don't have fast internet then the packages still try to download at the speed with no way to stop without killing install.
[14:23] <MartinCleaver> ok, so my disk has two partitions: qtparted can see 100mb /boot + 465gb unmounted
[14:23] <MartinCleaver> I have used the unmounted disk for sure
[14:23] <MartinCleaver> but I don't know why the live cd has not mounted it
[14:24] <da_didi> the installer also shows some issue about PCI, api.. /var/log/messages also shows somethings with perl and api
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> MartinCleaver, mount it yourself :)
[14:24] <default_> I've got ADSL2 but if I go over limits in month, I get shaped to 56K and this is why it failed for me instlaling.  I had to remove the lan cable to make it skipt he process.
[14:24] <da_didi> i will retry
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> da_didi, you could even use one off a Linux Format or whatnot
[14:25] <default_> martin try fusermount -u <mountdev>
[14:25] <MartinCleaver> root@ubuntu:~# fusermount -u /dev/sda2
[14:25] <MartinCleaver> umount: /dev/sda2: not mounted
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> MartinCleaver, are you logged in as root?
[14:26] <MartinCleaver> I 'sudo su' d
[14:26] <flipstar> you have to give umount the mount directory not the device ..
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> MartinCleaver, are you on the live cd?
[14:26] <da_didi> yeah, the md5 sums don't match
[14:26] <MartinCleaver> yes, live DVD
[14:26] <default_> hehehhe da
[14:26] <MartinCleaver> amd 64bit
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> MartinCleaver, cool, just checkin. running stuff as root (specially web apps) is insane
[14:27] <senorpedro> i have a new creative zen pplayer and it doesnt mount under kubuntu. i tried the new mtp-tools and also kzenexchange, but no success. also in amarok there is no recognition of the player. is it even possible to use the new creative zen player (8gb) under linux?
[14:27] <MartinCleaver> ok, thanks ActionParsnip
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> senorpedro, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=657686
[14:28] <MartinCleaver> so what mount command should I use?
[14:28] <MartinCleaver> I know when I am in Centos it says it is managed using LVM
[14:28] <default_> senorpedro do you know what protocol it uses over the usb?
[14:29] <flipstar> MartinCleaver:  sudo mkdir /media/sda2;sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/sda2
[14:29] <flipstar> where sda2 is your drive to mount
[14:29] <senorpedro> default_: no, i have no idea
[14:29] <MartinCleaver> mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
[14:30] <flipstar> what filesystem is it ?
[14:30] <default_> senorpedro: if it's simply a storage access then it would be strange why it's not seeing it.  if it's another protocl then you ened to find out and give the ability for os to read it.
[14:31] <MartinCleaver> its whatever Centos installed, something like a "Linux Volume Manager" volume
[14:31] <default_> senorpedro: I'm not expert.
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> senorpedro, if you dont mind having gnome libs installed you can use gnomad, it seems to work :(
[14:32] <default_> senorpedro:  http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22zen%22+%22creative%22+%22protocol%22+%22filesystem%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> senorpedro, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/creative-zen-touch-with-plays-for-sure-on-kubuntu-is...a-camera-518976/
[14:34] <senorpedro> ActionParsnip: i also tried gnomad but no success
[14:34] <MartinCleaver> adept does not seem to know about LVM
[14:35] <da_didi> uhm
[14:35] <da_didi> my kubuntu session is locked.. what is the default password?
[14:36] <cee> hi, i have an laptop(thinkpad z61m) that freezes often completely when i run heavy cpu tasks in matlab or other programs. there is nothing in the logs..
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> senorpedro, id google dude. Im on it myself :)
[14:36] <default_> can someone recomend a smtp server and client please?  I want to run my own email server and readed it directly on desktop?  I used mail-enable/outlook before killing Vista.
[14:36] <da_didi> (okay, another session was open for passwd..)
[14:37] <prince_jammys> default_: client: kmail works
[14:37] <MartinCleave1> That machine just crashed :(
[14:37] <martijn> can i just install kubuntu on a imac?
[14:37] <default_> thx prince.
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> senorpedro, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-users/2007-May/016423.html
[14:38] <prince_jammys> default_: np, i believe it's packaged with kubuntu
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> martijn, yeah but i think there are issues with wifi and you need ndiswrapper
[14:39] <default_> yep it's running.  checking out now, thx.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> senorpedro, http://www.larryni.me.uk/blog/2007/03/25/sync-creative-zen-vision-m-on-ubuntu/
[14:39] <AbortD> is it possible to run gimp under kde?
[14:39] <senorpedro> AbortD: yes
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> AbortD, absolutely :)
[14:39] <martijn> AbortD: yes it is, you just need to install some extra packages
[14:39] <AbortD> nice nice thats what i like to hear i havent used ubuntu or kub in a few years
[14:39] <senorpedro> AbortD: you can run _all_ linux programm under every Desktop
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> AbortD, sudo apt-get install gimp
[14:40] <MartinCleave1> I looked for lvm and kubuntu - the live DVD didn't seem to mention it in adept but googling had something
[14:40] <martijn> ActionParsnip: i don' t use wifi anyways, so that' s cool
[14:40] <default_> alos another lamer questiion.  what directory is the one for placing linsk to auto start at boot?
[14:40] <AbortD> thats what i was thinking
[14:40] <default_> I want Kget to start up when system starts.
[14:40] <AbortD> i love kubuntu for super karamba
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> default_, ~/.kde/Aitostart
[14:40] <default_> thx.
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> *autostart
[14:40] <AbortD> but i love most of the prgrams gnome has
[14:41] <AbortD> especially gimp
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Abort if you are running Kubuntu but want gnome apps yu install the gnome libs
[14:41] <AbortD> alright
[14:41] <AbortD> ah
[14:41] <AbortD> i did that last time
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> AbortD, some people will even dual boot to keep kde and gnome seperate
[14:41] <AbortD> and my linux was flooded with kde and gnome apps
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> AbortD, but its ok to mix (just takes more space)
[14:41] <AbortD> thats what i was thinking about
[14:42] <AbortD> but i dont want my hard drive to have 4 partitions
[14:42] <AbortD> i have one for linux windows and a backup
[14:42] <AbortD> as it is
[14:42] <AbortD> i hear it slows the hard drive down
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> i just have Kubuntu
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> AbortD, nar it doesnt affect speed
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> AbortD, unless you start reading between partitions on the same drive
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> AbortD, then it does
[14:43] <AbortD> hm would 2 gigs be enough for gnome?
[14:43] <AbortD> reading between partitions?
[14:43] <martijn> note that there also is krita instead of the gimp, i believe not that advanced but hey it is for kde
[14:43] <AbortD> gimp = god
[14:44] <martijn> ActionParsnip: how would i partition my disk? can kubuntu partition the macos file system?
[14:44] <MartinCleave1> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFutureIdeas mentions LVM
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> AbortD, yeah so if you copy from Kubuntu to your backup partition on the same drive it will take longer than drive to a different physical drive
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> martijn, not sure
[14:45] <MartinCleave1>  LVM (Logical volume management) tool. This would be a great "would be a great addition if kubuntu sets LVM by default on install."
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> martijn, Ive never messed with mac. I think they are overpriced for my needs
[14:45] <AbortD> oh thats no problem
[14:45] <Sbucat> well i have a problem with konversation when i click on a link it load konqueror for kde4 and then it crashes
[14:45] <AbortD> im going to make 2 gig or 3 gigs for gnome
[14:46] <ruata> hello room
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Sbucat, what is your default web browser
[14:46] <martijn> ActionParsnip: they are, but i wanted some joy in my life
[14:46] <Sbucat> ActionParsnip: konqueror
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> martijn, get an eee pc :)
[14:46]  * MartinCleave1 has an eeepc
[14:46] <AbortD> and do my partition order as swap kde gnome windows backup
[14:46] <default_> senorpedro: did you see ; http://libnjb.sourceforge.net/
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Sbucat, run konversation from konsole and watch the output while it is running and you click a link
[14:47] <MartinCleave1> ok - back in 30
[14:47] <Sbucat> ActionParsnip: nice idea
[14:47] <MartinCleave1> thanks for all your help
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> np dude
[14:47] <AbortD> oh one more question before i begin install
[14:47] <senorpedro> default_: thx, i'll try that too later
[14:47] <AbortD> i can partition with the installer right?
[14:47] <prince_jammys> yes
[14:47] <AbortD> if i remember right i could before
[14:47] <AbortD> alright thanks u all have fun
[14:48] <prince_jammys> bye
[14:48] <Sbucatone> ActionParsnip: nothing it loads but then in konsole i have nothing
[14:48] <Sbucatone> Sbucatone@ll:~$ konversation
[14:48] <Sbucatone> Sbucatone@ll:~$
[14:48] <Sbucatone> and konversation is loaded
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> so click this
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> www.google.co.uk
[14:49] <Sbucatone> xD
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> whats it do?
[14:49] <Sbucatone> i can see icons jumping
[14:49] <Sbucatone> still jumping
[14:50] <Sbucatone> now nothing
[14:50] <Sbucatone> it looks like is close itself
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> Sbucatone, what does it say in konsole?
[14:51] <Sbucatone> ActionParsnip: nothing
[14:51] <Sbucatone> because when i load konversation
[14:51] <Sbucatone> it loads konversation and then i get this
[14:51] <Sbucatone> Sbucatone@ll:~$ konversation
[14:51] <Sbucatone> [15:48] <Sbucatone> Sbucatone@ll:~$
[14:51] <default_> senorpedro: also try ; http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=compatibility
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Sbucatone, are you runing it with & or not?
[14:52] <Sbucatone> so
[14:52] <Sbucatone> what do you mean ActionParsnip
[14:52] <martijn> ActionParsnip: what is an eeepc?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> at the end of your command do you put a '&'
[14:52] <Sbucatone> no
[14:52] <Sbucatone> ups
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> martijn, its a wonderful laptop, get googling
[14:53] <Sbucatone> Sbucatone@ll:~$ konversation &
[14:53] <Sbucatone> [1] 24248
[14:53] <Sbucatone> Sbucatone@ll:~$
[14:53] <martijn> ActionParsnip: what can go better than thinkpad T61?
[14:53] <Sbucatone> ok i get this
[14:53] <Sbucatone> Sbucatone@ll:~$ konversation &
[14:53] <Sbucatone> [2] 24251
[14:53] <Sbucatone> [1]   Done                    konversation
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> martijn, pretty much anything from www.voodoopc.com
[14:53] <Sbucatone> bucatone@ll:~$
[14:53] <default_> does ntfs-3g have a 'noauto' option?
[14:54] <aharoon> hi iwas trying to stop compiz fusion i run the command kwin --replace it finish parsing the config file and stop it give me thhe error compsite manager crashed twice in  a minute therefor disapled for this session
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> Sbucatone, yes that runs it in the background and gives you control of the konsole again
[14:54] <Sbucatone> ActionParsnip: that is the issue i can't ckeck nothing because it gives me control of the konsole again
[14:54] <Sbucatone> sigh and sob
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Sbucatone, if you run it without it should  give system outputs
[14:55] <default_> other words how do I mount a ntfs usb drive and have it hotswap the mount?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Sbucatone, what does it say for your default browser?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> Sbucatone, in konversation
[14:56] <senorpedro> thx guys, you were a great help :)
[14:56] <default_> "/dev/sdc1 /media/dockinghd01 ntfs-3g defaults 0 0" isn't working and I can't see in --help any options for noauto.  removing 'defautls' and putting noauto doesn't work
[14:56] <Sbucatone> ActionParsnip: i have installed kde4 , and after that when i click on a link it try to open konqueror for kde4 and for some time it worked , after some update it doesn't work anymore
[14:56] <hs^> Hello, i saw a bug fix here in a package, it says:  This bug was fixed in the package qt4-x11 - 4.3.3-0ubuntu3
[14:56] <default_> np seno
[14:57] <hs^> does that mean if you download the package now, you get the fix?
[14:57] <Sbucatone> ActionParsnip: i don't know where i can check default browser for konversation do you know something
[14:57] <Sbucatone> ?
[14:57] <Sbucatone> ActionParsnip: now i am using kde3 but i have that problem
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> Sbucatone, check in tools -> options
[14:58] <Sbucatone> xD
[14:58] <aharoon> i was trying to stop compiz fusion i run commund kwin --replace it hang and cradshed
[14:58] <default_> Do I still need ntfs-3g to have writable hd's? or will ntfs do it now?
[14:58] <hs^> ?
[14:59] <SlimeyPete> you still need ntfs-3g
[14:59] <ForgeAus> yeah NTFS requires FUSE mounting
[14:59] <ForgeAus> for read/write
[15:00] <default_> is fuse newer than 3g?
[15:00] <aharoon> i want to stop compiz what i have 2do?
[15:00] <ForgeAus> 3g employs FUSE mounting
[15:00] <default_> ok I thought fuse was backend
[15:00] <ForgeAus> I don't know whic project started first but they're used to compliment eachother
[15:01] <default_> oh
[15:01] <ForgeAus> basically default yes it is a backend, I think... or something like that
[15:01] <ForgeAus> FUSE can be used for lots of things not just NTFS
[15:02] <default_> I've got a problem with my usb drive, which is ntfs, is not dismountingin hotswapping.  any ideas why not?
[15:03] <ForgeAus> um I don't know much about hotswap but generally you unmount a usb drive before disconnecting don't you?
[15:03] <ForgeAus> perhaps a file is open on the partition still?
[15:03] <default_> I jsut turned it off.
[15:03] <default_> I thought the noauto mode would handle the persistent nature
[15:04]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[15:04] <aharoon> anyone help me to disaple compiz fusion i try the command kwin --replace it hung
[15:04] <ForgeAus> disable or uninstall?
[15:05] <prince_jammys> aharoon: kwin --replace is the only way i know, sorry
[15:05] <aharoon> disable
[15:05]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[15:05] <aharoon> ok is it take too long time??
[15:05] <prince_jammys> aharoon: it blanks out for a bit,but shouldnt take too long
[15:06] <coolbhavi> Hi all.. Fresh error while ripping CD's in k3b
[15:06] <aharoon> ok thanks
[15:06] <prince_jammys> aharoon: i get a blank screen for about 2 seconds
[15:06] <ForgeAus> you can probably remove the service from init.d (I think theres a command to do that) and/or change the desktop defaults?
[15:06] <coolbhavi> More info: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55848/
[15:06] <coolbhavi> Any info?
[15:06] <ForgeAus> coolb generalyl ripping from CD's is illegal
[15:06] <MartinCleave1> looks like kubuntu 6 had an alternate cd for lvm installs, but kubuntu 7 doesn't. Surely this means Gutsy should have lvm support?
[15:06] <default_> hehe I'm slowly getting the system working.  hehe.  I  only have the docking to fix, try to get canon 600f scanner workng,  get email server going, and install FASM for programming.  I'm pretty impressed at Kubuntu though.  It's at a stage where I can say I'm not going back to win32
[15:07] <aharoon> it give finished parsing the config file the it stop after that it didnt give me new line
[15:07] <ForgeAus> I think lvm was built into Feisty and probably gutsy too
[15:07] <ForgeAus> !lvm
[15:07] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[15:07] <MartinCleave1> thanks ForgeAus
[15:08] <coolbhavi> >ForgeAus I m ripping a movie here in India..
[15:09] <coolbhavi> >ForgeAus Any info?
[15:09] <MartinCleave1> doesn't mention ubuntu on the lvm one
[15:10] <MartinCleave1> the other one looks like a software raid, but I have only one disk in that box
[15:10] <da_didi> nice.. the 3rd burned cd is still working..
[15:11] <coolbhavi> >ForgeAus Its my own birthday clippings.. ;-) There is no restriction on this I suppose..
[15:11] <default_> good to hear da_didi
[15:11] <vigge_sWe> hello
[15:11] <default_> hi vigge_sWe
[15:12] <vigge_sWe> I am new to kubuntu, I have used windows all my life, so how do I install something?
[15:12] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: one way is "add-remove programs" just like windows
[15:12] <vigge_sWe> can I add firefox from there?
[15:13] <SlimeyPete> yes
[15:13] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: yeah
[15:13] <vigge_sWe> I can't run adept...
[15:13] <default_> is KDE4 usable?  I tried it but I couldn't install anything.  like no apt.  Can I upgrade now and all works still in new api's?
[15:13] <SlimeyPete> you can add lots of stuff from there.
[15:13] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: why not?
[15:13] <vigge_sWe> It say all the time it's already running
[15:14] <vigge_sWe> or "another proccess is using the packaging database" or something
[15:14] <SlimeyPete> default_: if you upgrade, some things won't work in KDE4.
[15:14] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix | vigge_sWe
[15:14] <default_> has anyone gone kde4 yet?
[15:14] <SlimeyPete> hrm, bot's being slow
[15:15] <jussi01> !adeptfix
[15:15] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:15] <vigge_sWe> yes I upgraded but kubuntu couldn't install all because something was wrong, I don't remember. Then it said something I should run a "adept-package"
[15:15] <jussi01> SlimeyPete: you got it while indexing I assume
[15:15] <SlimeyPete> ah, maybe
[15:15] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: did you try what ubotu says above?
[15:16] <vigge_sWe> no I can't find out
[15:16] <vigge_sWe> it says "command not found"
[15:16] <SlimeyPete> what are you typing in?
[15:16] <vigge_sWe> « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:16] <SlimeyPete> erm, without the << and >> :
[15:16] <jussi01> vigge_sWe: remove the << >>
[15:16] <SlimeyPete> :)
[15:16] <default_> hehe
[15:17] <default_> has anyone gone kde4 yet?
[15:17] <PknBst4> me
[15:17] <default_> as in are power users going kde4 yet?
[15:17] <jussi01> default_: lots of people - support in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:17] <prince_jammys> default_: not i
[15:17] <default_> is it working PknBst4
[15:18] <SlimeyPete> default_: I did, briefly. Hardly anything worked properly so I came bck to kde3.
[15:18] <vigge_sWe> what should I choose?
[15:18] <jussi01> vigge_sWe: where?
[15:18]  * hydrogen has been using soley kde4 for a while
[15:18] <vigge_sWe> in the terminal
[15:18] <default_> k that's answers the question.  I dont' need the problems whilst getting back into linux.
[15:18] <jussi01> vigge_sWe: no, what is it asking?
[15:18] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: what question is it asking?
[15:19] <vigge_sWe> oops I accidentaly pressed enter
[15:19] <vigge_sWe> Im used to cmd
[15:19] <vigge_sWe> you copy with enter
[15:19] <vigge_sWe> Konfigurationsfil "/etc/qt3/qt_plugins_3.3rc" ==> Den fil som nu finns skapades av dig eller ett skript. ==> Paketansvariges version finns även i paketet du installerar.   Vad vill du göra åt det?  Dina möjligheter är:   Y eller I: installera paketansvariges version   N eller O: behåll din nu installerade version      D     : visa skillnaderna mellan versionerna      Z     : lägg denna process i bakgrunden för att u
[15:19] <vigge_sWe> *** qt_plugins_3.3rc (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [förval=N] ?
[15:19] <vigge_sWe> it's in swedish ...
[15:19] <jussi01> !paste | vigge_sWe
[15:19] <ubotu> vigge_sWe: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[15:20] <vigge_sWe> oo ok
[15:20] <PknBst4> irssi the best :)
[15:20] <jussi01> vigge_sWe: your grand, that choice should be fine
[15:21] <vigge_sWe> it worked yey!
[15:21] <jussi01> :)
[15:22] <vigge_sWe> omg! where do I find all those games under the games tag?
[15:23] <Qrawl> !IE
[15:23] <ubotu> For Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidiú Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Béag fáilte ort
[15:23] <vigge_sWe> is everything installed???
[15:23] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: you just install them, they'll be automatically downloaded
[15:23] <vigge_sWe> oooo
[15:23] <Qrawl> !internet explorer
[15:23] <vigge_sWe> Can I install firefox from there?
[15:23] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: no, they are downloaded from a repository and automatically downloaded
[15:24] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: yes to the firefox question
[15:24] <vigge_sWe> I did that but I don't know how I should install it
[15:24] <vigge_sWe> oh ok
[15:24] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: what are you using? adept?
[15:24] <vigge_sWe> yes
[15:24] <default_> OT what's the command to change your name in IRC, again?
[15:25] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: do "mark for installation" with anything you want to install and then apply
[15:25] <vigge_sWe> ooo easier than windows
[15:25] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: you can install a bunch of things at once
[15:25] <vigge_sWe> cool
[15:25] <ForgeAus> default /nick <insert newnick here>
[15:25] <vigge_sWe> Is apache there??
[15:25] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: yes
[15:25] <IceBlock> thx Forge
[15:25] <vigge_sWe> yey!
[15:25] <installer> guys trying to get compiz to work here
[15:26] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: apache, php, perl, mysql you name it
[15:26] <vigge_sWe> wow
[15:26] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: no photoshop :)
[15:26] <installer> nvidia FX15000
[15:26] <vigge_sWe> It works on virtualbox, right?
[15:26] <ForgeAus> installer thats what kwin4 is for, no need for compiz :)
[15:26] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: get "wine"
[15:26] <vigge_sWe> I have photoshop outside virtualbox :)
[15:26] <vigge_sWe> I have windows
[15:26] <ForgeAus> me to vigge :)
[15:26] <vigge_sWe> I run kubuntu as windows as host
[15:27] <ForgeAus> Vigge ever heard of AndLinux?
[15:27] <vigge_sWe> no
[15:27] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: i don't know virtualbox
[15:27] <ForgeAus> google it
[15:27] <ForgeAus> its not virtualized but its similar I guess
[15:27] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: but i run photoshop in linux with wine
[15:27] <ForgeAus> interop Windows + linux :)
[15:27] <installer> forgeaus what u talking about? kwin4 is a game no
[15:27] <ForgeAus> (from within Windows of course)
[15:27] <ForgeAus> installer yeah that too
[15:28] <ForgeAus> but I meant kwin from KDE4
[15:28] <vigge_sWe> prince_jammys: it's a virtual pc, it creates a virtual harddrive on windows there you can install kubuntu, mac, vista, nearly every os
[15:28] <vigge_sWe> I installed kubuntu in 3 minutes
[15:28] <installer> forgeaus you are saying to upgrade to kde4?
[15:28] <vigge_sWe> I still have windows xp running and I can use windows xp at the same time
[15:28] <prince_jammys> vigge_sWe: oh, sort of like wine, but backwards
[15:28] <ForgeAus> well not necessarily upgrade
[15:29] <ForgeAus> but perhaps run alongside?
[15:29] <ForgeAus> Xnest it if you must :)
[15:29] <ForgeAus> Wine is not a virtualizer or an emulator
[15:29] <ForgeAus> its a compatibility layer
[15:30] <prince_jammys> ForgeAus: i know, i meant its use can be similar
[15:30] <ForgeAus> installer you can always Xnest (although these days its called Xephyr) your KDE4 if you like
[15:30] <vigge_sWe> ehhh
[15:30] <ForgeAus> (or if your brave Xephyr your KDE3)
[15:31] <installer> forgeaus i dont understand what you mean. i have kubuntu 7.10 how do i get the 3d windows that compiz has?
[15:31] <vigge_sWe> hi again
[15:31] <ForgeAus> installer I don't know what desktop effects kwin has in KDE4 but you don't need compiz for them thats all I'm saying
[15:32] <Qrawl> how do you install IE6
[15:32] <vigge_sWe> I got logged out for some reason
[15:32] <Qrawl> !IE6
[15:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ie6 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:32] <ForgeAus> ies4linux Qrawl
[15:32] <Qrawl> ty
[15:32] <ForgeAus> google it
[15:32] <vigge_sWe> Adept is saying I should insert gutsy gibbons, should I mount it with VirtualBox then?
[15:32] <kaan> i need help, i cannot find firefox on kubuntu :S
[15:32] <installer> damn this linux crap is hard. go WINDOWS!!!
[15:32] <ForgeAus> thats because it isn't installed by default kaan, at least I don't htink it is
[15:33] <kaan> it says its installed but i dunno where it is
[15:33] <installer> everything is a fuckin chore here
[15:33] <Qrawl> ForgeAus, I have it but Im getting a NOGui errer
[15:33] <vigge_sWe> It's easy when you find the installer thing :)
[15:33] <kaan> when i check the packet manager
[15:33] <kaan> it says its installed
[15:33]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[15:33] <kaan> then i also installed version 3.0
[15:33] <ForgeAus> not sure why Qrawk
[15:33] <kaan> its still noth there :S
[15:33] <ForgeAus> grr damn typos
[15:33] <kaan> any help
[15:33] <kaan> ?
[15:33] <prince_jammys> kaan: what do you mena it's not there?
[15:33] <ForgeAus> installer linux takes time and some work yes but its not all hard
[15:34] <kaan> its not under the internet menu
[15:34] <kthakore> how do I install raptor-menu for kde 4 also how do I turn on compiz in kde 4
[15:34] <kaan> i dunno where else it would be...
[15:34] <ForgeAus> !kde4
[15:34] <ubotu> KDE 4.0.1 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. KDE 4.0.1 packages can be found at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.1.php - More information can be found at http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.1.php - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[15:34] <prince_jammys> kaan: can you do ALT-F2 and then type firefox?
[15:34] <installer> yeah really how does someone get freaking compiz to work on this bith
[15:34] <installer> bitch
[15:34] <kaan> couldnt find the command...
[15:34] <ForgeAus> you could go to #compiz-fusion kthakore
[15:35] <prince_jammys> installer: getting compiz to work can indeed be a bitch
[15:35] <prince_jammys> kaan: alt-F2, and in the box: firefox
[15:35] <ForgeAus> installer what video card do you have?
[15:35] <kaan> yep i did it
[15:35] <installer> thats the only reason i switched to this freaking thing.
[15:35] <kaan> its not working
[15:35] <kthakore> ForgeAus, nw
[15:35] <installer> nvidia 15000
[15:35] <installer> quadro fx
[15:35] <kaan> it says couldn't find the specified command
[15:35] <ForgeAus> !nvidia
[15:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[15:36] <kthakore> How do I install the KDE4 Development Packages libkde-dev?
[15:36] <ForgeAus> that may be why compiz isn't working
[15:36] <prince_jammys> kaan: try reinstalling
[15:36] <kaan> ok
[15:36] <ForgeAus> if you've done that then #compiz-fusion should be able to help better than I can
[15:36] <prince_jammys> kaan: or i guess installing, since it doesn't seem to be there
[15:36] <kthakore> ForgeAus, I already have compiz working for gnome ubnut
[15:36] <kthakore> ForgeAus, Just want to know how to enable it in kde
[15:37] <MrJigsaw> When i did->  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 -> What do i need to write in fstab to make it remeber it ?
[15:37] <ForgeAus> Kthakore yeah well I don't know I've never actually had it working before personally
[15:37] <kaan> what exactly should i search for in the packet manager for firefox???
[15:37] <kthakore> ok then ...
[15:37] <ForgeAus> I'm sure you can do it tho
[15:37] <prince_jammys> kaan: firefox :)
[15:37] <kaan> lol ok
[15:37] <ForgeAus> I just don't have enough experience with it
[15:37] <kaan> and which one should i install
[15:37] <kaan> 3.0?
[15:37] <kaan> or mozilla english package? :S
[15:38] <ForgeAus> I'd go ask the people in #compiz-fusion myself which is why I directed you guys there
[15:38] <^CatMan^> how do i make kdm my default window manager rather than gdm?
[15:38] <prince_jammys> kaan: there's a package named plain "firefox"
[15:38] <IceBlock> I installed firefox 3 and it wouldn't start.  I ahd to put in ver 2
[15:38] <ForgeAus> also installer, if your still there, compiz is no good reason to get linux...
[15:38] <ForgeAus> however I have to admit it is nice eyecandy :)
[15:38] <kaan> aha gotcha :D silly questions i know ... sorry... new to linux kubuntu
[15:38] <prince_jammys> kaan: another way (after closing adept) is in a terminal: "sudo apt-get install firefox"
[15:39] <prince_jammys> kaan: np
[15:39] <kaan> ok thank you
[15:39] <amal> hi
[15:39] <Qrawl> ForgeAus, ok ies4linux is working with the --no-gui option
[15:40] <amal> i want 2 install real player
[15:40] <ForgeAus> Qrawl I'm not sure that it shouldh ave been necessary Qrawl, but I'm glad that it is working at least
[15:40] <MrJigsaw> No one can help me ?
[15:40] <ForgeAus> !fstab
[15:40] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[15:40] <MrJigsaw> I did read that, but cant figure out what to set in :S
[15:41] <ForgeAus> MrJigsaw I generally tend to model my fstab entries on the other ones already there
[15:41] <da_didi> adeapt reports errors when upgrade an fresh installation.. the update tells me there are updates and some steps later i have the latest system and the upgrade restarts... i recall why i didn't install *buntu last time on my desktop :/
[15:41] <ForgeAus> btw as type is ntfs you want to fuse mount so check out that stuff
[15:41] <ForgeAus> !fuse
[15:41] <ubotu> FUSE (Filesystem in Userspace) is a !kernel driver that allows non-root users to create their own filesystems. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_in_Userspace for more on FUSE.  Some examples of filesystems that use FUSE are !ntfs-3g, sshfs and isofs. A full list of Filesystems that use FUSE is here:  http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
[15:42] <ForgeAus> I'm not sure if fstab uses "fuse" as a type or not tho
[15:42] <amal> want 2 install real playe
[15:42] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: an example   "/dev/sda1       /mnt/windows    ntfs-3g uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=227     0       0"
[15:42] <da_didi> after a reboot is still a process blocking the database..
[15:42] <amal> want 2 install real player
[15:42] <ForgeAus> ok MrJigsaw you might find http://www.debuntu.org/2006/04/27/39-mounting-a-fuse-filesystem-form-etcfstab more helpful
[15:43] <ForgeAus> oh wait Prince stepped in with an answer :)
[15:43] <jussi01> !adeptfix | da_didi
[15:43] <ubotu> da_didi: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[15:43] <ForgeAus> besides the article was old, for dapper (possibly still relevant tho)
[15:43] <ForgeAus> wb vigge :)
[15:43] <vigge_sWe> hi again
[15:43] <MrJigsaw> prince_jammys: so /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1    ntfs-3g uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=227     0       0 <- Should be it ?
[15:43] <vigge_sWe> I have problem installing
[15:43] <ForgeAus> what kinda problem vigge?
[15:44] <vigge_sWe> It says I should mount gutsy gibbons and when I do kubuntu is starting from cd and I can't install firefox
[15:44] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: in your case i guess /dev/sdb1 /wherever/you're mounting it/     ntfs-3g      uid=your_id,gid=same, umask 227    0     0
[15:44] <vigge_sWe> cd=mount for me
[15:44] <vigge_sWe> eh
[15:44] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: 227 is rw-rw----
[15:45] <vigge_sWe> I don't get it :S
[15:45] <prince_jammys> i mean r-xr-x---
[15:45] <ForgeAus> kubuntu starting from CD?
[15:45] <vigge_sWe> no
[15:45] <vigge_sWe> I have a ISO
[15:45] <kaan> oh and how can I watch windows codecs with kaffein?
[15:45] <vigge_sWe> yes
[15:45] <ForgeAus> ok well its basically a liveCD iso right?
[15:45] <MrJigsaw> prince_jammys: okay.. now ive wrote in: /dev/sdb1 /wherever/you're mounting it/     ntfs-3g      uid=your_id,gid=same, umask 227    0     0 - So i hope it work :)
[15:45] <MrJigsaw> no shit
[15:45] <ForgeAus> you want it to boot from the HDD right?
[15:45] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: correction: 227 is r-xr-x---
[15:45] <vigge_sWe> yes but I haven't burned it to a cd
[15:45] <vigge_sWe> yes
[15:45] <kaan> which codec should i install?
[15:45] <da_didi> okay, worked.. thanks jussi01(i see its a common problem still..)
[15:45] <ForgeAus> to do that eject the iso (or whatever you do disconnect in VMware, etc)
[15:46] <ForgeAus> and reboot, if that doesn't work then reinsert the iso
[15:46] <MrJigsaw> /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/     ntfs-3g      uid=your_id,gid=same, umask 227    0     0 <- thats what i wrote in
[15:46] <ForgeAus> boot from it and read !grub
[15:46] <ForgeAus> !grub
[15:46] <vigge_sWe> but if I do that I can't install firefox
[15:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[15:46] <jussi01> da_didi: yeah, hopefully fixed next release
[15:46] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: hehe
[15:46] <ForgeAus> vigge you can when it boots from the HDD
[15:46] <vigge_sWe> but it doesen't
[15:46] <ForgeAus> (rather than the .iso)
[15:46] <kaan> prince_jammys: which codec should i install?
[15:46] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: put  in your uid
[15:46] <vigge_sWe> it boots from the iso
[15:46] <MrJigsaw> uid ?
[15:47] <ForgeAus> grrr its not at the moment because it doesn't start independantly right?
[15:47] <default_p> MrJigsaw: you need to set upt he drive to read first then change the string in fstab so that ntfs reads ntfs-3g
[15:47] <ForgeAus> if you eject the iso and try booting what happens?
[15:47] <MrJigsaw> i did mount the drive to /media/sdb1, default_p..
[15:47] <ForgeAus> it asks for gutsy right?
[15:47] <vigge_sWe> it boots normal without firefox I apparently installed inside the iso...
[15:48] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: in a terminal, do    echo $UID
[15:48] <default_p> I had the same problem with getting write mode.  I installed ntfs-3g from the website, not the repository
[15:48] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: it's probably 1000
[15:48] <ForgeAus> vigge the .iso by default is likely to be a LiveCD one that you can boot up into your OS with independantly of the HDD
[15:48] <MrJigsaw> Yes, its 1000 prince_jammys
[15:48] <MrJigsaw> so uid=1000 ?
[15:48] <ForgeAus> (ie stick it in ur cd drive and reboot your computer you don't even need a HDD...
[15:48] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: right, and gid=1000
[15:49] <ForgeAus> but doing that means you can't install stuff because its all running .. I think in ram?? or at elast some non-installable filesystem)
[15:49] <vigge_sWe> But I use VirtualBox to mount the ISO from my windows harddrive that is on same hardrive as kubuntu but kubunu is inside a .VDI file
[15:49] <MrJigsaw> So its like this prince_jammys; uid=1000,gid=1000, ?
[15:49] <ForgeAus> you need it ON THE HDD and booting from there (instead of the LiveCD)
[15:49] <ForgeAus> vigge you have a virtual hard drive right?
[15:49] <ForgeAus> a hardfile?
[15:49] <ForgeAus> a .VHD or whatever Virtaulbox calls them?
[15:49] <vigge_sWe> yes
[15:49] <ForgeAus> thats where you install it on
[15:50] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw:  /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1       ntfs-3g     uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=227     0       0
[15:50] <ForgeAus> so from the .iso while its booted (from the CD inside the vm, outside to you its the .iso)
[15:50] <MrJigsaw> yes
[15:50] <ForgeAus> its considered booting as a LiveCD...
[15:50] <MrJigsaw> thats what i wrote in.. and i just put it in new line in the end of the docoment, right prince_jammys?
[15:50] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: right
[15:50] <ForgeAus> then you click the install icon and it should set it up on the HDD for you
[15:50] <MrJigsaw> Good, thanks. :9
[15:50] <default_p> MrJigsaw: Not sure if this is walking under ladder situation, but I manually also set the mount media directory to chmod a-rwx <mountdir> whislt unmounted the drive using fasermount -u <mountdrive>
[15:50] <vigge_sWe> but look, when I boot from the harddrive and try to install firefox through adept it says "please insert gutsy gibbons" and when I do that kubuntu reboots
[15:50] <ForgeAus> then you disconnect/eject the .iso (CD inside the VM)
[15:51] <vigge_sWe> I try again
[15:51] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: you saved it?
[15:51] <ForgeAus> vigge... does it say that after you login to the hard drive install?
[15:51] <vigge_sWe> no I can't mount the ISO when running kubuntu
[15:51] <MrJigsaw> yes, prince_jammys.
[15:51] <ForgeAus> you should be able to
[15:51] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: once you have saved it you can mount with:            mount /media/sdb1
[15:51] <kaan> can someone tell me a codec to install so i can watch mpegs, avi, wmv etc...
[15:52] <default_p> MrJigsaw: then I let the fdisk&filesystem util in settings to set the security agian after putting all the right options.  it then read and then I demounted it and chg to -3g line.
[15:52] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: sudo mount /media/sdb1
[15:52] <ForgeAus> can you run the VM from the .VHD Hard drive while the .iso isn't virtually inserted in the drive?
[15:52] <MrJigsaw> Well prince_jammys, now it should mount automatic when i boot up, right ?
[15:52] <vigge_sWe> yes
[15:52] <ForgeAus> ok do that
[15:52] <ForgeAus> get to ur kubuntu desktop
[15:52] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: yes, though you can also mount it right now
[15:52] <vigge_sWe> I have installed kubuntu on the virtual harddrive
[15:52] <vigge_sWe> ok
[15:52] <vigge_sWe> what's next?
[15:52] <MrJigsaw> Well i dit mount it before :)
[15:52] <ForgeAus> first of all do you see an install icon on the desktop?
[15:53] <vigge_sWe> no
[15:53] <vigge_sWe> but I do when I mount the ISO
[15:53] <ForgeAus> good that means you've got that far correctly :)
[15:53] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: to be able to write to it, change the 227 to 027
[15:53] <ForgeAus> ok now run a konsole window
[15:53] <default_p> MrJigsaw:  this is my fstab line "/dev/sda1 /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults 0 0"
[15:53] <vigge_sWe> ok and now?
[15:53] <ForgeAus> from there type apt-get install firefox
[15:53] <ForgeAus> wait
[15:53] <ForgeAus> sudo apt-get install firefox
[15:54] <MrJigsaw> Okay prince_jammys.. done, and thanks :-)
[15:54] <ForgeAus> (I keep forgetting my sudo's)
[15:54] <vigge_sWe> Evil_DuDe: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[15:54] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: remember 227 is read-only
[15:54] <vigge_sWe> what?
[15:54] <ForgeAus> yeah sorry vigge my fault
[15:54] <ForgeAus> I forgot the sudo
[15:54] <ForgeAus> its sudo apt-get install firefox
[15:54] <eugen_> lkl
[15:54] <default_p> MrJigsaw: it's ok to leave all ownership on the media dir to root.
[15:55] <vigge_sWe> lol: Please restart any running Firefoxes
[15:55] <ForgeAus> running firefoxes?
[15:55] <MrJigsaw> prince_jammys: when i do: sudo mount /media/sdb1 i get: [mntent]: line 25 in /etc/fstab is bad
[15:55] <vigge_sWe> lol but I think it did install
[15:55] <ForgeAus> your not running one from within your host or something?
[15:55] <ForgeAus> check ksysguard for running processes vigge
[15:56] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: check it first to make sure it's like what we said
[15:56] <vigge_sWe> it works now ty
[15:56] <ForgeAus> (the command is kdesu ksysgauard I think, if that doesn't work try kdesudo instead of kdesu)
[15:56] <MrJigsaw> prince_jammys: im pretty sure it is, take a look: /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/     ntfs-3g      uid=1000,gid=1000, umask 027    0     0
[15:56] <vigge_sWe> Have some1 installed apache who can help me?
[15:56] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: the folder /media/sdb1 exists?
[15:56] <ForgeAus> if you just run ksysguard then you probably won't be able to do anythign with the process table (if you can even get one at all)
[15:57] <MrJigsaw> yes prince_jammys.. its my mountpoint for my 500Gb harddrive..
[15:58] <ForgeAus> (without the kdesu[do] that is)
[15:58] <MrJigsaw> should i delete the other lines where sdb1 is prince_jammys? (in /etc/fstab ?
[15:58] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[15:58] <ForgeAus> vigge you don't need a linux vm to install apache to
[15:59] <ForgeAus> (you can do that in ur windows install can't you?)
[15:59] <MrJigsaw> sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g <- prince_jammys :/
[15:59] <MrJigsaw> damn
[15:59] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: yes, comment out the other lines with #
[15:59] <ForgeAus> (like get apache and mod_*'s that you want and even django if you have python for example)
[15:59] <MrJigsaw> ffs.. stupid copy/paste in kubuntu konsole :|
[15:59] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: you don't have to delete them, just in case
[15:59] <daffytheduck> hi Im having problems with amarok sharing the same soundcard for systems sounds everytime i try to use amarok with this soundcard I get the following "xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers" but if I use a different soundcard amarok works fine
[15:59] <ForgeAus> for that matter you can run  firefox from windows
[16:00] <daffytheduck> :))
[16:00] <MrJigsaw> LABEL=Storage /media/sdb1 ntfs defaults,umask=007,loop,uid=0,gid=46,auto,rw,nouser 0 1
[16:00] <MrJigsaw> # /dev/sdc1 <- i should delete?
[16:00] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: no
[16:00] <vigge_sWe> Now how do I install apache?
[16:00] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: the lines beginning with # do nothing, they are just comments
[16:00] <jpatrick> !apache | vigge_sWe
[16:00] <ubotu> vigge_sWe: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[16:01] <MrJigsaw> prince_jammys: DISK1 /media/sdb1 auto nouser,atime,noauto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0 <- this one then ?
[16:01] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: put a # at the beginning
[16:02] <MrJigsaw> okay.. but why not just delete it? it was a wrong mount i did yesterday :/
[16:02] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: ok
[16:03] <arrrghhh> so does anyone know why firefox doesn't update automatically in linux but it does in windows?  my virtual machine always gets firefox updates (like the new beta 3) without my intervention.  my linux boxes?  not so much.
[16:04] <MrJigsaw> mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/sdb1 busy
[16:04] <MrJigsaw> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/sdb1 < prince_jammys, i guess thats the reply im looking for, right?
[16:04] <vigge_sWe> argh
[16:04] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: are you able to browse the files?
[16:04] <MrJigsaw> mount: /dev/sdb1 already mounted or /media/sdb1 busy
[16:04] <MrJigsaw> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/sdb1 <- prince_jammys, i guess tahts the answer im looking for, right
[16:04] <jussi01> arrrghhh: see the last part of the !wfm factoid
[16:04] <MrJigsaw> Fuck sorry..
[16:04] <vigge_sWe> I tried installing lamp and it says I should insert the disc in /cdrom/...
[16:05] <MrJigsaw> i were scrolled up.. that sucks :P, but yes prince_jammys, im able to browse the device..
[16:05] <arrrghhh> !wfm
[16:05] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[16:05] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: then it looks like you're ok.  they should be mounted every time
[16:05] <jussi01> !ohmy | MrJigsaw
[16:05] <ubotu> MrJigsaw: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[16:05] <BluesKaj> !language | MrJigsaw
[16:05] <arrrghhh> jussi01: uhm... that is the most worthless response i've ever heard.
[16:05] <prince_jammys> heh
[16:05] <JigSawPuzzle> :))
[16:05] <MrJigsaw> ALl right, all right jussi01 and BluesKaj.. i get it. SORRY :P
[16:06] <vigge_sWe> hmmm
[16:06] <arrrghhh> and the new firefox betas
[16:06] <arrrghhh> have been more stable than FF2
[16:06] <vigge_sWe> I think I have kubuntu 7.10 on a cd somewhere...
[16:06] <daffytheduck>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY najdorf1
[16:06] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: you can test your fstab now by doing sudo umount /media/sdb1, and then sudo mount /media/sdb1
[16:06] <BluesKaj> MrJigsaw, we understand the frustration cuz I've been there too :)
[16:07] <arrrghhh> daffytheduck: yea that's why i don't msg nickserv in the room, i do it in the status page lol
[16:07] <daffytheduck> i just told the whole world my p/word
[16:07] <MrJigsaw> But when i so 'fuck sorry' its nothing bad imo :)
[16:07] <daffytheduck> lol
[16:07] <jussi01> daffytheduck: I suggest you change it quick :)
[16:07] <daffytheduck> lol
[16:07] <daffytheduck> k
[16:08] <BluesKaj> well MrJigsaw if you do it again you'll be gone
[16:08] <MrJigsaw> [mntent]: line 22 in /etc/fstab is bad
[16:08] <MrJigsaw> mount: can't find /media/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab <- I get that now prince_jammys  :/
[16:08] <arrrghhh> just don't curse, simple
[16:08] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw:  how can that be? isn't the line there?
[16:09] <MrJigsaw> yes it is
[16:09] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: i don't get it
[16:10] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: if the directory exists, and it's in fstab, then i don't understand the error
[16:10] <MrJigsaw> prince_jammys: it does say that the line is bad..
[16:10] <vigge_sWe> anyone can help me with installing LAMP?
[16:10] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: does it give a line number?
[16:11] <MrJigsaw> line 18
[16:11] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: check it out
[16:11] <MrJigsaw> Its the line
[16:11] <MrJigsaw> !pastebin
[16:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[16:11] <MrJigsaw> 2 secs. ille paste me fstab in there..
[16:11] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: kdesude kate /etc/fstab        (F11 to view line numbers)
[16:11] <vigge_sWe> plz
[16:12] <MrJigsaw> prince_jammys: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55854/
[16:12] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: kdesudo
[16:12] <MrJigsaw> thats my fstab :)
[16:12] <daffytheduck> fixed
[16:12] <daffytheduck> :))
[16:12] <jussi01> :)
[16:12] <vigge_sWe> please help me with LAMP
[16:12] <SlimeyPete> !lamp
[16:12] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[16:13] <daffytheduck> change the bulb
[16:13] <vigge_sWe> not that
[16:13] <vigge_sWe> I already read that
[16:13] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: what's the problem exactly?
[16:13] <vigge_sWe> I tried to install it but the damn thing want me to insert the 7.10 cd
[16:13] <vigge_sWe> into th /cdrom/ folder...
[16:13] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: you're using the "Music" partition?
[16:13] <vigge_sWe> I use mount of a ISO
[16:13] <MrJigsaw> Yes
[16:14] <vigge_sWe> If I put my ISO in kubuntu doesen't start from the hdd
[16:14] <vigge_sWe> and I can't install anything...
[16:14] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: can kubuntu see the internet?
[16:14] <vigge_sWe> yes
[16:14] <default_p> lamer question.  where is the file association manger?
[16:14] <default_p> I want to have flv files associated with vlc player
[16:14] <raoman> is there any solution for the USB device mounting in Kubuntu...?
[16:15] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: ok, just a moment
[16:15] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: can you pastebin : sudo fdisk -l
[16:15] <damian> Qbuntu is the best
[16:15] <MrJigsaw> yes, ofc prince_jammys, 2 secs.
[16:15] <BluesKaj> vigge_sWe, you have to go into your sources.list file and edit the deb cdromrepository by putting a # in front or deleting the line and saving the file.
[16:16] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: replace your /etc/apt/sources.list with the one at http://www.scruffbag.net/sources.list
[16:16] <SlimeyPete> (that's mine)
[16:16] <MrJigsaw> prince_jammys: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55857/
[16:16] <vigge_sWe> and where do I find that file?????????
[16:16] <sub[t]rnl> default_p➜ alt + f2 kcontrol -> Kde components -> File association
[16:16] <default_p> thc sub[t]rnl
[16:16] <default_p> thx
[16:16] <BluesKaj> vigge_sWe, alt+F2, kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:17]  * BluesKaj backs off....too many cooks
[16:18] <vigge_sWe> that sources.list you posted is for beta right?
[16:19] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: it is for gutsy
[16:19] <vigge_sWe> it says beta at the first lin, mine says release
[16:19] <vigge_sWe> line*
[16:19] <jese> Does anyone knows if knetworkmanager has a dcop interface?
[16:20] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: the beta line is commented out
[16:20] <sub[t]rnl> jese➜ it does
[16:20] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: it is an old line and no longer used
[16:20] <vigge_sWe> ok
[16:20] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: you can delete it if it makes you feel better :)
[16:20] <jese> sub[t]rnl: thanks, can I add Access Points with it?
[16:20] <sub[t]rnl> jese➜ checking
[16:20] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: umask=  it's missing the equal sign, sorry --- and delete the space before umask
[16:20] <jese> sub[t]rnl: it doesn't seem to have a help file
[16:21] <MrJigsaw> uhm prince_jammys.. like this then: /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/     ntfs-3g      uid=1000,gid=1000,=umask 027    0     0
[16:21] <vigge_sWe> it still asks for the cd to be putted in /cdrom/
[16:21] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: umask=027
[16:22] <MrJigsaw> /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1/     ntfs-3g      uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=027    0     0 - Then ? :D
[16:22] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: yes, try that
[16:22] <sub[t]rnl> jese➜ all there is a notifyDatabaseChanged, List interfaces, startupId, disableSessionManagement, quit
[16:22] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: now run "sudo apt-get update"
[16:22] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: or click "update" in Adept
[16:23] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: this will download package lists from the internet.
[16:23] <MrJigsaw> prince_jammys: mount: can't find /media/sdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab <- :(
[16:23] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: from then on, kubuntu will look for packages on the internet rather than CD.
[16:23] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: wow
[16:23] <richard__> #list
[16:23] <richard__> hello
[16:23] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: paste it up :)
[16:23] <jese> sub[t]rnl: many thanks. It seems to be very hard to add Access Points to knetworkmanager with a script which is very simple with Gnome. The biggest problem is kwallet manager.
[16:23] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[16:23] <MrJigsaw> fstab prince_jammys?
[16:24] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: yeah
[16:24] <sub[t]rnl> jese➜ knetworkmanager is a bit rough. :p
[16:24] <Picachoo> where can i understand about users accounts and priviliages. applications behaviour and sharing with control  in detail?
[16:24] <MrJigsaw> prince_jammys: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55860/ <- I just wanna say thanks, i really apriciate youre help :-)
[16:25] <jese> sub[t]rnl: it maybe work without kwallet manager but this is no real option
[16:25] <vigge_sWe> should I ignore that whole my desktop went black?
[16:25] <vigge_sWe> o sry
[16:25] <vigge_sWe> it didn't
[16:25] <sub[t]rnl> jese➜ you could use wpa_supplicant or another alternative that's more flexible
[16:25] <vigge_sWe> VirtualBox is adding a large black frame
[16:25] <jese> sub[t]rnl: That removes the great Gui :(
[16:25] <vigge_sWe> still used to windows...
[16:26] <vigge_sWe> I get this on the update: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another proc                                                              ess using it?
[16:26] <jese> sub[t]rnl: and it works fine with Gnome but I am planning to change but adding ~50 access points is a little bit embarassing
[16:26] <vigge_sWe> And LAMP is still asking for CD
[16:26] <jese> with WPA Enterprise of course
[16:26] <sub[t]rnl> !enter | vigge_sWe
[16:26] <ubotu> vigge_sWe: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:26] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: you must quit adept before using apt-get
[16:27] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: you cannot run two installers at the same time
[16:27]  * sub[t]rnl slides SlimeyPete a cup of coffee
[16:27] <vigge_sWe> oh ok I always do that on windows lol
[16:27] <hilary_clinton> whois Zeelot
[16:27] <SlimeyPete> sub[t]rnl: cheers :)
[16:27] <jese> Windows has no package system.
[16:27] <Picachoo> where can i understand about users accounts and priviliages. applications behaviour and sharing with control  in detail?
[16:28] <jese> sub[t]rnl: thanks for help
[16:28] <jese> ciao
[16:28] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: the installer saves some data in a database. If two installers try to save data at the same time one might overwrite the other by accident!:)
[16:28] <vigge_sWe> it still says E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[16:28] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: i can't see what's wrong with it -- all i can think of is to move the line above all the <device> entries, but that's because i'm running out of ideas
[16:28] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: ok, try this:
[16:28] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix
[16:28] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[16:29] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: the line looks good
[16:29] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: but do not do the dpkg --configure -a    bit
[16:29] <vigge_sWe> Kill process 5077 ? (y/N)
[16:29] <SlimeyPete> y
[16:29] <MrJigsaw> Cant hurt to try it prince_jammys ;)
[16:29] <MrJigsaw> Dosent work either ;|
[16:30] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: and you have ntfs-3g installed?
[16:30] <vigge_sWe> dpkg: need a command to do
[16:30] <MrJigsaw> it says so when i do: sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g :)
[16:31] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: don't do the dpkg bit, just "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg"
[16:31] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: don't do the dpkg bit, just "sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[16:31] <vigge_sWe> ok
[16:32] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: then run the "sudo apt-get update" bit again
[16:32] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: I'm stuck then.  try to reboot and come back?
[16:32] <vigge_sWe> It worked
[16:32] <vigge_sWe> should I try LAMP now?
[16:32] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: :) now try to install LAMP
[16:32] <SlimeyPete> it should use the internet now
[16:33] <MrJigsaw> okay prince_jammys. ill try, brb.
[16:37] <vigge_sWe> should I get any install complete or something?
[16:38] <JoshOvki> whats the recommended FTP client for kubuntu?
[16:39] <TimS> Anyone updated the language packs from yesterday?
[16:39] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: no, if it exits without errors then it worked.
[16:39] <TimS> Someone was telling me theres a problem with them, i am not sure how valid that is.
[16:39] <psicobra> hi all i have an external 40 GN hard drive that is formated as ntfs when how do i get it to auto mount when i plug it in?
[16:40] <vigge_sWe> because it says "installed php5-mysql 100%" for awhile now. Should I just close it?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> TimS, there's some stability probs with some KDE apps, the Panel & Kicker
[16:41] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: leave it
[16:41] <vigge_sWe> ok
[16:41] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: it may take a while
[16:42] <vigge_sWe> ok
[16:42] <TimS> BluesKaj: Ill hold off then :
[16:43] <BluesKaj> TimS, I didn't mean you shouldn't update , just be warned you may need to go into kcontrol and reset your kicker and panel after the upgrade
[16:46] <vigge_sWe> SlimeyPete: can I minimize kubuntu and do things on the windows xp in the meantime while Kubuntu is still running in it's window?
[16:48] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: make sure you have a blank line at the end of the fstab file (press enter after the last written line and save)
[16:49] <TimS> Alright BluesKaj :)
[16:50] <MrJigsaw> prince_jammys: the harddrive works now :>
[16:50] <MrJigsaw> so i guess its all working :)
[16:50] <lg188> hi python scripting problems dcop amarok
[16:50] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: excellent
[16:50] <prince_jammys> MrJigsaw: now you can just mimic that any time you want to mount other stuff in the future
[16:51] <MrJigsaw> Yes, cool, thanks :-)
[16:51] <lg188> prince_jammys: any python knowledge ?
[16:52] <prince_jammys> lg188: none whatsoever
[16:52] <lg188> prince_jammys: kk,
[16:52] <prince_jammys> lg188: some perl, some bash, some php no python
[16:52] <lg188> prince_jammys: ty anyway
[16:52] <prince_jammys> lg188: np
[16:52] <Hammer89> is the flash plugin working for konqueror again?
[16:52] <jpatrick> !flashissue | Hammer89
[16:52] <ubotu> Hammer89: The Flash plugin installation has been broken for some time. A fix has been released now, although it might not have yet reached all mirrors. If the update fails to install Flash, try « sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-nonfree ; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree »
[16:53] <lg188> ll
[16:53] <lg188> kk
[16:54] <Hammer89> jpatrick: has that worked for you? my I'm not actually using konqueror... I'm using Opera... and I've tried that method to no avail... hence why I'm asking if it works on konqueror  (to see if it's just an issue with Opera... or if I'm not alone with this issue)
[16:55] <jpatrick> Hammer89: dunno, hardly use flash
[16:55] <Hammer89> jpatrick: okay
[16:55] <Hammer89> anyone else have any idea if the flash plugin is working with konqueror?
[16:56] <sub[t]rnl> Hammer89➜ works here
[16:57] <Hammer89> sub[t]rnl: okay.. thanks
[16:57] <prince_jammys> Hammer89: seems to work for me
[16:57] <Hammer89> are y'all using post-fix releases?
[17:00] <vigge_sWe> LAMP is still at 100%, should I w8 more? How long time do you think it gonna take?
[17:00] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: hmm, should be done by now.
[17:01] <vigge_sWe> it still showing "installed php5-mysql 100%"
[17:01] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: best to close it. However you may have to run the aptfix command again
[17:01] <vigge_sWe> pls can you send it again?
[17:01] <SlimeyPete> !aptfix
[17:02] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:02] <SlimeyPete> run that after you close the window
[17:02] <vigge_sWe> with or without the last part?
[17:02] <SlimeyPete> I'm not sure why it's pausing like that - it shouldn't.
[17:02] <SlimeyPete> with the last part, this time.
[17:02] <hydrogen> well
[17:02] <hydrogen> without the »
[17:03] <SlimeyPete> yeah, without the <<>> but with the dpkg --configure a
[17:03] <vigge_sWe> done
[17:03] <SlimeyPete> ok. Did it give an error?
[17:03] <vigge_sWe> nope
[17:03] <SlimeyPete> then your LAMP is installed :)
[17:03] <vigge_sWe> it didn't gave anything
[17:03] <vigge_sWe> good
[17:04] <vigge_sWe> now it's just phpMyAdmin left, right?
[17:04] <SlimeyPete> vigge_sWe: if adept keeps crashing like that, use apt-get instead. "sudo apt-get install appname" eg "sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin"
[17:05] <vigge_sWe> what apache should I choose?
[17:06] <vigge_sWe> [ ] apache2 [ ] apache [ ] apache-ssl        │    [ ] apache-perl
[17:06] <vigge_sWe> oops
[17:06] <vigge_sWe> I should have pressed backspace there
[17:06] <vigge_sWe> should it be apache2?
[17:06] <SlimeyPete> yeah apache2
[17:07] <BluesKaj> oops
[17:07] <vigge_sWe> so
[17:07] <vigge_sWe> And now I need to configure php right?
[17:07] <lg188> hi tags:python;scripting problems;dcop;amarok;fast
[17:08] <max_> Hi, I cannot lunch kate in root
[17:09] <max_> http://kubuntu-fr.pastebin.com/m21230eca
[17:09] <Tm_T> max_: did you use kdesudo?
[17:09] <lg188> launch...
[17:09] <max_> kdesudo ?
[17:09] <Tm_T> !kdesudo
[17:09] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[17:09] <max_> thanks
[17:10] <sparrw> i am considering changing from a kde/windows launcher+taskbar to a gnome/mac dock
[17:10] <lg188> python scripter needed
[17:11] <max_> i've the same mistake than kdesu
[17:11] <vigge_sWe> how do I start phpMyAdmin?
[17:11] <max_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[17:11] <max_> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[17:12] <raitis> i installed kubuntu, my windows partition was gone now i fixed it, unhiden it and fixed the boot but now windows loads but no icons or sytem loads just the background any suggestions?
[17:12] <sub[t]rnl> max_➜ run kdesu 	instead	 of sudo su
[17:12] <ArmedKing> Is Kde menu still disorganized in comparence to gnome?
[17:12] <ArmedKing> I been out a wile ^_^
[17:12] <Tm_T> ArmedKing: your question means nothing to me, like to elaborate?
[17:13] <sub[t]rnl> max_➜ kdesu kwrite (as normal user)
[17:13] <max_> as normal user: Failed to open device
[17:13] <cj_> how well does flash work on amd64?
[17:13] <ArmedKing> When i used KDE the KDE menu seemed like one big mess to me
[17:13] <BluesKaj> raitis, maybe the ppl at #windows can help
[17:13] <raitis> thanks
[17:14] <BluesKaj> cj_, it'll work on Firefox if you install ia32libs
[17:14] <ArmedKing> Tm_T, I not Flaming kubuntu or something but i realy like the desktop only thing i get enoyed by is the Kde Menu
[17:14] <ForgeAus> theres several alternative menus
[17:14] <max_> kde4 is better kde3
[17:14] <ForgeAus> at least for KDE3 dunno about KDE4
[17:15] <ForgeAus> theres KBFX for example
[17:15] <Tm_T> ArmedKing: yes, but still your question is "empty" in my eyes, anyway, some others might know this issue better anyway, I don't use menus really
[17:15] <BluesKaj> ArmedKing, there are other kmenu options like Tasty Menu and Kickoff
[17:15] <adz21c> cj_: fine for me in kde3 and firefox
[17:15] <sub[t]rnl> ArmedKing➜ kmenu is organized alphabetically by the programs description.
[17:15] <cj_> cheers
[17:15] <ForgeAus> you don't even neeed to use the kmenu at all if you get a dock app like cairodock or kooldock (
[17:15] <cj_> gnash kinda sucks
[17:16] <ForgeAus> yeah cj well as opposed to Adobe flash it tends to as far as I've been experienced with it
[17:16] <ArmedKing> KK iĺl just give it a try again and look for those alternate menus. Because i like the simplicity in the Gnome menu but love the flexibility of KDE hehe
[17:16] <ForgeAus> simplicity? go for KDE4's or wait till it gets better
[17:16] <cj_> ArmedKing: customize it and stop winging
[17:17] <ForgeAus> (KDE4 is mostly a new thing)
[17:17] <ArmedKing> cj_, :D Oke m8 haha no problem, KDE4 stable now?
[17:17] <adz21c> nope
[17:17] <Tm_T> stable yes
[17:17] <Tm_T> full with functions, no
[17:18] <ArmedKing> Oke thanks you guys, And sorry bout the Wining ;-)
[17:18] <Tm_T> np
[17:20] <phoenixz> ArmedKing, see #kubuntu-kde4 for more info
[17:21] <arcticpenguin380> is it possible to use dappers start up sound in kubuntu 7.10?
[17:21] <phoenixz> ArmedKing, and Im using kde4 right now as a production desktop.. I would not recommend others to do so yet, but Im nuts anyway.. Its just to say: Its stable enough to start using it
[17:22] <Tm_T> just to make sure you know that desktop can be ugly: http://www.tm-travolta.net/shots/current.png
[17:23] <ArmedKing> phoenixz, Oke but Kubuntu-desktop doesnt take kde4 right
[17:24] <BluesKaj> kde4 is a seperate install
[17:24] <phoenixz> ArmedKing, on kubuntu.org you can find a link to a repository that you have to use with apt-get..
[17:24] <ArmedKing> Oke, Iĺl go check it out on my other box ;-)
[17:24] <phoenixz> then you can install it
[17:24] <ArmedKing> phoenixz, Tnx
[17:24] <phoenixz> ArmedKing, you can run KDE4 right next to KDE3, without problem
[17:26] <mefisto__> you can have a kde3 session and a kde4 session running simultaneously?
[17:26] <Tm_T> yes, as separate X sessions, if you like
[17:27] <mefisto__> and about how much extra disk space would kde4 need?
[17:27] <Tm_T> depends, less than 200 MB is doable IIRC
[17:28] <mefisto__> is there any reason to avoid giving it a try?
[17:28] <bin4ry> hey together
[17:29] <bin4ry> need to know how i can convert a divx file to dvd format
[17:29] <bin4ry> with audio and video stream
[17:29] <bin4ry> ?
[17:29] <llutz_> bin4ry: avidemux, ffmpeg, mencoder, ...
[17:30] <mefisto__> bin4ry: are you actually creating a dvd disk, or just want to encode to mpeg2 dvd format?
[17:30] <bin4ry> i want to create a dvd-disc which is recognized by my (old) dvd player
[17:31] <llutz_> bin4ry: devede, kmediafactory (not sure about divx-input)
[17:32] <mefisto__> bin4ry: you might want to try DeVeDe if you don't need dvd menus, mandvd if you want simple menus, or Qdvdauthor if you want nice menus
[17:32] <BluesKaj> bin4ry, a lot of players will play divx orxvid now , jus tuse the data dvd option in K3B to burn them , and they will work fine, unless it's absolutely necessary to transcode to mpeg for dvd
[17:32] <arcticpenguin380> Is JFS better than ext3 with large parittions at 140GV
[17:32] <arcticpenguin380> GB
[17:33] <bin4ry> nice
[17:33] <bin4ry> thx all
[17:33] <BluesKaj> tovid for cli or devede for gui , will do the transcodes nicely , bin4ry
[17:34] <mefisto__> bin4ry: Qdvdauthor is not too polished though, and not very easy to learn to use. and the version in repos is a little dated
[17:34] <kaan> does anyone know why adept manager crashes everytime after an installation... And when I try to open it after, it opens up in read only mode... I'm using kubuntu 7.10
[17:34] <kaan> how do I reset the adept manager to original specs?
[17:36] <kaan> someone help pls
[17:37] <phoenixz> kaan, what do you mean exactly?
[17:37] <kaan> uh i cant get the error messege right now
[17:37] <phoenixz> kaan, you mean adept configuration? or installed packages?
[17:37] <kaan> but it crashes and okay 1 sec
[17:37] <kaan> adept configuration i mean
[17:37] <lg188> help --tags:ruby;scripting problems;dcop;amarok;commands
[17:37] <mefisto__> !adept
[17:37] <mefisto__> !adept
[17:37] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[17:37] <phoenixz> kaan, it tells you that you can not modify software anymore?
[17:37] <phoenixz> !aptfix | kaan
[17:37] <ubotu> kaan: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[17:37] <mefisto__> that's the one
[17:37] <kaan> it says another process is using the manager
[17:38] <phoenixz> kaan, see above, the !aptfix things
[17:38] <phoenixz> !aptfix | kaan
[17:38] <kaan> ok
[17:40] <kaan> wow ubotu is pretty smart!
[17:40] <kaan> nice AI
[17:41] <phoenixz> kaan, anything else we can help you with?
[17:41] <lg188> help --tags:ruby;scripting problems;dcop;amarok;commands
[17:41] <phoenixz> lg188, excuse me?
[17:42] <lg188> phoenixz:  i need help with ruby for scripting a amarok dcop script
[17:43] <phoenixz> lg188, Im not a machine, I talk English :)
[17:43] <lg188> kk
[17:43] <lg188> sorry
[17:43] <lg188> can you help me ?
[17:44] <phoenixz> Don't know ruby, sorry.. but if you want help iwth that, I think you'll have better luck in the #amarok, or #ruby channels
[17:44] <lg188> thnx
[17:45] <abortd> same old problems :/
[17:45] <phoenixz> where?
[17:46] <abortd> my screen resolution
[17:46] <abortd> it never fits my monitor
[17:46] <phoenixz> abortd, screen res problems on KDE.. :) Dunno why but I hear this a lot.. HAD this a lot too..
[17:46] <phoenixz> abortd, what chipset?
[17:46] <Picachoo> I have 10 clients and a server. (net cafe) is there a way that i can only allow use of OpenOffice, Skype, ICQ, Opera, Mozilla Firefox, amsn, unix yahoo messenger, Email Client, MP3-Player, DVD-Player , a shared folder having  vidoes and songs, all these present on desktop as the shortcuts. i do not want ANY other app or service to be able to run on clients. not even right clicks or desktop customisation. NOTHING. but i wan a service to moniter the time
[17:47] <kaan> why adept manager doesn't download some packages
[17:47] <abortd> i have a geforce 5500
[17:47] <kaan> ?
[17:47] <phoenixz> Picachoo, there is a way yeah
[17:47] <kaan> I'm trying to install eclipse
[17:47] <phoenixz> Picachoo, what was the app name again...
[17:47] <phoenixz> errrrr
[17:47] <abortd> phoenixz: i get it on gnome too sometimes
[17:47] <kaan> help pls
[17:47] <Picachoo>  the time for which the pc is Onn. complete logs auto started on logon and log file not editable by the user, but me. Possible? how?
[17:47] <phoenixz> kaan, what error is it showing?
[17:48] <Picachoo> phoenixz 1 sec
[17:48] <hs^> Hello. i can boot kubuntu with -noapic ... but it wont run the installer.
[17:48] <phoenixz> Picachoo, the hard way would be with user rights.. Just don't give exec rights.. but that won't fix modifications to the desktop..
[17:48] <hs^> i click on it.. it says 'loading installer'.. but never appears
[17:48] <phoenixz> Picachoo, there is this app where you can completely arrange what can be done and what not
[17:49] <Picachoo> phoenixz use of OpenOffice, Skype, ICQ, Opera, Mozilla Firefox, amsn, unix yahoo messenger, Email Client, MP3-Player, DVD-Player , a shared folder having  vidoes and songs, all these present on desktop as the shortcuts.
[17:49] <phoenixz> kaan, if you want help you need to give some info
[17:49] <Picachoo> phoenixz how exactly
[17:49] <phoenixz> abortd, what chipset do you use?
[17:49] <abortd> what do you mean?
[17:49] <abortd> intel
[17:49] <phoenixz> Picachoo, there is an app for that but I forgot the name.. Let me check adept.
[17:49] <abortd> celeron i think
[17:49] <abortd> ?
[17:49] <phoenixz> abortd, intel... 915, 945 perhaps?
[17:49] <kaan> There was an error committing changes. There was possibly a problem downloading some packages, or else the commit would break packages.
[17:49] <abortd> i dont know...
[17:50] <abortd> i dont care about this pc that much
[17:50] <kaan> this is the error phoenixz
[17:50] <kaan> i think i need more sources to download from?
[17:50] <phoenixz> Picachoo, Im really not sure about this one, but try kiosktool...
[17:50] <phoenixz> Picachoo, Mexico?
[17:50] <Picachoo> phoenixz package name is kiosktool?
[17:50] <Picachoo> phoenixz pakistan
[17:50] <phoenixz> Picachoo, close enough :)
[17:51] <mefisto__> kaan: you could try changing the server adept is using
[17:51] <phoenixz> abortd, try installing 915resolution package..
[17:51] <vigge_sWe> hello
[17:51] <vigge_sWe> I can't edit httpd.conf as root
[17:51] <abortd> whats that and hoow phoenixz?
[17:51] <HS^> Hello. i can boot kubuntu with -noapic ... but it wont run the installer. doesnt load. now what?
[17:51] <phoenixz> kaan, adept sometimes has some problems.. great util, but it has its glitches still..
[17:51] <amal> i want to install real player 10 gold
[17:51] <phoenixz> abortd, sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[17:52] <phoenixz> amal, woah! why? there are better things than that
[17:52] <kaan> ok
[17:52] <phoenixz> amal, you don't need it just to play rm files
[17:52] <phoenixz> kaan, try installing it again
[17:52] <phoenixz> kaan, or, try adding some other repositories
[17:52] <phoenixz> kaan, install only 1 pacakge at the time to see which pacakge causes the problem
[17:53] <kaan> damn it
[17:53] <abortd> phoenixz: couldnt find package?
[17:53] <kaan> i treid adding another server source to install
[17:53] <kaan> eclipse
[17:53] <phoenixz> vigge_sWe, as root you can do *everything*
[17:53] <kaan> but now this happened
[17:53] <kaan> The APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. Try running apt-setup and apt-get update in terminal and see if it helps to resolve the problem.
[17:53] <Repsa_Jih> sudo apt-setup
[17:53] <vigge_sWe> how do I use "root" then?
[17:53] <kaan> i tried it cannot find the command....
[17:53] <phoenixz> kaan, sounds like you modified the sources.list file and either made a mistake in it or forgot an sudo apt-get update
[17:54] <phoenixz> vigge_sWe, sudo vim /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?
[17:54] <nosrednaekim> vigge_sWe➜ sudo -i
[17:54] <phoenixz> vigge_sWe, or sudo su -
[17:54] <kaan> oh
[17:54] <kaan> there we go
[17:54] <kaan> okay now in the terminal for updating
[17:54] <kaan> i get this error
[17:54] <kaan> E: Type 'http://phpeclipse.sourceforge.net/update/releaseshttp://phpeclipse.sourceforge.net/update/releases/' is not known on line 50 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:54] <kaan> thats what i tried to add in there
[17:54] <kaan> eclipse
[17:54] <kaan> how do i get rid of it now?
[17:54] <ArM-eye> amon-ra everyone
[17:55] <jpatrick> !abkn ArM-eye
[17:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about abkn arm-eye - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[17:55] <phoenixz> Picachoo, yeah, look on google as well for kiosktool.. IIRC it should let you configure these things
[17:55] <boubbin> how to use kde4's konsole in kde3.5.8 ?
[17:55] <boubbin> where can i find the app ?
[17:55] <kaan> phoenixz?
[17:55] <kaan> how can i delete that line from adept configuration
[17:55] <vigge_sWe> nothing happened
[17:55] <ra3eT{}> #sexy-
[17:55] <phoenixz> kaan, sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:55] <ra3eT{}> kak da vlqza v kanal sexy
[17:55] <ra3eT{}> ?
[17:56] <jpatrick> !en | ra3eT{}
[17:56] <ubotu> ra3eT{}: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[17:56] <mefisto__> kaan: or sudo nano, if vim confuses you
[17:56] <jpatrick> !guidelines > ra3eT{}
[17:56] <ra3eT{}> #help
[17:56] <kaan> okay how do i save this file now
[17:56] <kaan> :S
[17:56] <kaan> :D
[17:56] <ra3eT{}> kaan
[17:57] <ra3eT{}> kak da vlqza v
[17:57] <ra3eT{}> uni.bg
[17:57] <phoenixz> kaan, <esc> :x
[17:57] <ra3eT{}> v kanal sexy-
[17:57] <jpatrick> !pl | ra3eT{}
[17:57] <ubotu> ra3eT{}: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[17:57] <vigge_sWe> I still can't open httpd.conf as root
[17:57] <phoenixz> vigge_sWe, "nothing happens" ? What exactly happens?
[17:58] <kaan> phoenixz
[17:58] <abortd> phoenixz: Wrong chipset detected. 915resolution only works with Intel 800/900 series graic chipsets.
[17:58] <vigge_sWe> yes nothing, I write that in the terminal and nothing happens
[17:58] <kaan> okay i edited out that line
[17:58] <phoenixz> kaan, what mefisto__ says, if vim is too complex, use nano, its easier
[17:58] <kaan> how do i save this config file now
[17:58] <phoenixz> abortd, lspci | grep VGA, what does that tell you?
[17:58] <arcticpenguin380> do i need to run fsck if i see recovering journal?
[17:58] <kaan> im still in the terminal in the file
[17:58] <phoenixz> kaan, <esc> :q <enter>
[17:58] <abortd> lspci | grep VGA
[17:59] <abortd> one sec
[17:59] <abortd> 02:03.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] (rev a1)
[17:59] <phoenixz> abortd, means you have an NVidia vga card..   mmmm...
[17:59] <abortd> that good or bad?
[18:00] <phoenixz> abortd, good actually, best drivers.. but Im thinking about how to fix this res problem easily
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> good
[18:00] <kaan> it says trailing characters :S
[18:00] <kaan> when i  do <esc> :q <enter>
[18:00] <phoenixz> all: Battery empty, got to put my laptop on charger... BRB
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> kaan➜ :x to save
[18:00] <J-EL> BEGINNITIO REVELATIONEM
[18:00] <J-EL> DECODE BIBLIA
[18:00] <J-EL> Revel - Abraham is associated with the Egyptian pharaoh Amenemhat I (translates: amen is the head) who worshiped the god Amun (Amen). Abraham god then be associated with in the Abrahamic religions god as amun, amon, omon, amen and the deity aamon. Abraham/Amenemhet I
[18:00] <J-EL> Revel - Jacob = King Yakubher
[18:00] <J-EL> Revel - Moses = Thutmose III
[18:00] <J-EL> Revel - David = Psusennes I
[18:00] <nosrednaekim> !ops
[18:00] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!
[18:00] <kaan> thank you
[18:02] <Mez> godamn he's annoying
[18:02] <Mez> but at least he's been Klined
[18:02] <Mez> !op
[18:02] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!
[18:02] <Mez> feck
[18:02] <jpatrick> Mez: oi
[18:02] <Mez> I hit ! instead of /
[18:02] <Mez> sorry
[18:03] <abortd> lol
[18:03] <Mez> jpatrick, he was K lined... no need to ban
[18:03] <encrypt128bit> can anyone help me? Im trying to install ubuntu from my hard disk, and im in the installation screen. But it keeps asking to detect and mount the CD-ROM for the files. How can i tell the installer to look for the ISO file on my fat32 hard disk?
[18:03] <jpatrick> hehe
[18:03] <Picachoo> how to do if i wan a service to moniter the time for which the pc is Onn. complete logs auto started on logon and log file not editable by the user, but me. ?
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> encrypt128bit➜ hrm, you'd have to mount it as a squash FS I think.
[18:04] <nosrednaekim> Picachoo➜ use uptimed
[18:05] <encrypt128bit> nosrednaekim: what do you mean?
[18:05] <nosrednaekim> encrypt128bit➜ well, its rather complicated, why not just burn a CD?
[18:05] <phoenixz> Picachoo, but I think you're talking about the uptime of the terminals, not?
[18:05] <abortd> hm
[18:06] <abortd> phoenixz: figure anything out?
[18:06] <phoenixz> !resolution | abortd
[18:06] <ubotu> abortd: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[18:06] <encrypt128bit> nosrednaekim: every time i burn to a cd i get a corrupt cd that doesnt isntall, hence im trying to install via my fat32 partition
[18:06] <Picachoo> phoenixz the time the system on powered onn.
[18:06] <nosrednaekim> phoenixz➜ did you install the nvidia drivers yet?
[18:07] <da_didi>  I just removed the KDE from the taskbar - how can I undo this?
[18:07] <phoenixz> nosrednaekim, me? That'd be cool but it would cause this little problem, because I have an I945 chipset...
[18:07] <nosrednaekim> encrypt128bit➜ is the download, the actual file, corrupted?
[18:07] <abortd> !repositories
[18:07] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[18:07] <mefisto__> da_didi: you mean the k menu?
[18:07] <da_didi> yes
[18:07] <phoenixz> da_didi, the KDE menu button is an applet.. on the desktop press right mouse button, and select add applet
[18:07] <da_didi> perfect, i will try.. thanks
[18:07] <phoenixz> da_didi, sorry, you're talking about kde4 or kde3??
[18:07] <nosrednaekim> phoenixz➜ I mean abortd... sorry
[18:07] <encrypt128bit> nosrednaekim: nothing is acutally corrupted. i checked the MD5 on the iso file and I checked the cd integrity of using the ubuntu installer, but it finds nothing wrong
[18:08] <da_didi> it is kde4
[18:08] <phoenixz> da_didi, then what I said applies :)
[18:08] <nosrednaekim> encrypt128bit➜ odd, what does it fail on?
[18:08] <da_didi> perfect.. i try it later.. have to go.. thanks guys
[18:08] <Picachoo> so by default . linux records all logs. uptimes. and the time the system is powered onn.?
[18:09] <nosrednaekim> Picachoo➜ yes
[18:09] <phoenixz>   Picachoo yeah, you can find lots of that info in the /proc dir, which gives you info right from the kernel..
[18:09] <arcticpenguin380> will kubuntu run faster if i get 2GBs of ram?
[18:09] <encrypt128bit> nosrednaekim: well the first message i get is that method cdrom died unexpectedly. and then pkgskl failed with error code 1 or something like that
[18:10] <kaan> arrrrrrghhhhhhhh
[18:10] <kaan> this adept manager is really faulty!!!!
[18:10] <kaan> whys this happening now
[18:10] <Stonki> hello, I just got a new monitor.  Any recommendation for a good setup tool or do I have to edit xorg.conf manually ?
[18:10] <kaan> There was an error committing changes. There was possibly a problem downloading some packages, or else the commit would break packages.
[18:10] <vigge_sWe> ?
[18:10] <nosrednaekim> encrypt128bit➜ thats weird....so how are you installing(or trying to) now?
[18:10] <encrypt128bit> nosrednaekim: heres the actual message: E: Method cdrom has died unexpectedly, menu item pkgsel failed with error code 1
[18:11] <encrypt128bit> nosrednaekim: im trying to install with the alternate cd
[18:11] <nosrednaekim> Stonki➜ sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[18:11] <frank32> arcticpenguin380: from 1GB to 2 GB? I don't think it will make any difference unless you use RAM heavy applications
[18:11] <nosrednaekim> encrypt128bit➜ and its saying it can't detect the CDrom in the live installer?
[18:11] <nosrednaekim> sorry, alternate
[18:12] <encrypt128bit> nosrednaekim: No, its not saying that
[18:12] <nosrednaekim> encrypt128bit➜ so whats the problem in the alternate instalelr?
[18:13] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: whats with the arrow?
[18:13] <encrypt128bit> nosrednaekim: take a look at this, this is my original problem. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4310348#post4310348
[18:13] <hemanathan> how to set the port speed for the bluetooth modem
[18:13] <coreymon77> nosrednaekim: whatever happened to using a :?
[18:13] <nosrednaekim> coreymon77➜ cool ain't it? sub[t]rnl started it :)
[18:13] <phoenixz> nosrednaekim, indeed it is.. Howto?
[18:14] <nosrednaekim> phoenixz➜ are you using konversation
[18:14] <phoenixz> nosrednaekim, xchat..
[18:14] <coreymon77> gimmick
[18:14] <phoenixz> but willing to give it a try :)
[18:14] <coreymon77> im a traditionalist for this
[18:14] <hemanathan> how to set the port speed for the bluetooth modem
[18:14] <hemanathan> how to set the port speed for the bluetooth modem anyone tell me ya
[18:15] <mefisto__> kaan: in adept, go to "manage repositories" and try changing to a different server where it says "download from"
[18:15] <Stonki> nosrednaekim : thanks ! it works
[18:15] <phoenixz> hemanathan, I doubt that with that attitude anyone will help ya...
[18:15] <mefisto__> kaan: and while you're there, make sure "universe" is ticked
[18:15] <phoenixz> hemanathan, a little patience will help you a lot more..
[18:16] <nosrednaekim> phoenixz➜ don't know how to do it there
[18:16] <hemanathan> phoenixz: ok ya i'll wait
[18:16] <nosrednaekim> encrypt128bit➜ looking, thanks
[18:16] <coreymon77> meh, i just uncomment the repositories directly in my sources.lis
[18:16] <coreymon77> t
[18:16] <coreymon77> its much easier
[18:16] <encrypt128bit> nosrednaekim: thank you, your the first person to actually look into helping with this problem =P
[18:16] <Picachoo> phoenixz so i can find full logs for all the month. full details in /proc?
[18:17] <phoenixz> Picachoo, sorry, my bad.. :) full logs are found in /var/log.. files in /proc gives you runtime info..
[18:17] <unagi> anyone know a reason why the battery monitor doesnt show up in my tray anyomre?
[18:17] <phoenixz> hemanathan, and for the record, I'd like to help but I don't have the answer, sorry
[18:17]  * coreymon77 hands Picachoo a kleenex
[18:18] <hemanathan> phoenixz: ask someone else and help me
[18:18] <coreymon77> !attitude | hemanathan
[18:18] <ubotu> hemanathan: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[18:18] <mefisto__> Picachoo: there's also ksystemlog if you want a gui (but I don't know which logs it shows you)
[18:18] <nosrednaekim> encrypt128bit➜ I too think your CD is corrupt, despite the MD5 sums. did you try booting the live installer in safe graphics mode?
[18:18] <ForgeAus> hey Cory :)
[18:18] <coreymon77> hi
[18:18] <encrypt128bit> nosrednaekim: Yes, when i boot into the livecd however i have to use acpi=off or it doesnt work
[18:19] <nosrednaekim> encrypt128bit➜ so safe graphics mode also doesn't work?
[18:19] <encrypt128bit> nosrednaekim: i havent tried safe graphics mode. but when in the live cd installer using acpi=off the installer crashes or the system freezes
[18:20] <nosrednaekim> encrypt128bit➜ try safe graphics mode with ACPI on.
[18:21] <encrypt128bit> nosrednaekim: im pretty sure its gonna just crash but i'll give it a try. rebooting the machine. sec
[18:21] <prince_jammys> encrypt128bit: sometimes cd burn speed is an issue
[18:21] <hemanathan> how to set the port speed for the bluetooth modem
[18:21] <encrypt128bit> prince_jammys: i know, i burned the alternate cd at 4x
[18:21] <prince_jammys> encrypt128bit: ok