[03:59] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: do you know how to compile a kernel with an added functionality and install it?
[03:59] <Karen_m> izinucs, yes, nothing else is listing .. i checked
[03:59] <kjxl9> a usb recoil controller is all i know about it
[03:59] <killer_> What is Metacity?  I received a popup error regarding it
[03:59] <kjxl9> gimme a minute and i can have details
[03:59] <cheapie> killer_: Metacity is a window manager.
[04:00] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: because i want to go back to 10.10 but in 10.10 my wireless usb adapter doesn't work so i want to add that func to the kernel ?
[04:00] <izinucs> Karen_m: strage.. works fine for me on an 8200.. on 10.10 did you install the driver dirct from nvidia or from the repos?
[04:01] <kjxl9> ok its a GGE909 PC recoil pad
[04:01] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, oh i see what your doing now you can't revert to an older version though  but ifi were you i would do afresh of 10.04
[04:02] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: will my wireless usb adapter work in 10.04 ?
[04:02] <chaospsyche> what is the diff between .04 and .10 ?
[04:02] <cheapie> kjxl9: It appears that that device is not supported.
[04:02] <kjxl9> oh
[04:02] <kjxl9> poop
[04:02] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, what cardis it ?
[04:02] <Karen_m> izinucs, it seems they disabled my nvidia driver on the upgrade, i'm re-enabling and rebooting
[04:03] <cheapie> kjxl9: You can try "sudo modprobe joydev" but that's unlikely to do anything.
[04:03] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: it's a wireless usb adapter and its a 'belkin basic wireless usb adapter '
[04:04] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: it works on 11.04 but not 10.10. haven't tried 10.04
[04:04] <kjxl9> yeah, nothing happened
[04:04] <chaospsyche> but why would it work on 10.04 if it doesn't work on 10.10. isn't that an older version ?
[04:04] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, what model and chipset ?
[04:04] <twiggy_> hey can someone tell me how to change the color of the text in the unity top panel in 11.04
[04:04] <killer_> I'm trying to apply special effects to my windows/GUI via Compiz.  On my laptop, I have done this by accessing it in the start menu but on my desktop (system i'm sitting at now) I cannot find Compiz in the start menu.  I have checked to verify it is installed by looking for the package in Synaptic.  Suggestions?
[04:05] <kjxl9> how do i enable my wireless?
[04:05] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: how do i find out?
[04:05] <cheapie> kjxl9: Good. Now try "joy2key  -dev /dev/input/js0"
[04:05] <JoshDreamland> How do I get APNG support?
[04:05] <twiggy_> @killer_: you need to install compizconfig-system-manager
[04:05] <JoshDreamland> there doesn't seem to be a libapng package.
[04:06] <kjxl9> umm i would have to install it first
[04:06] <chaospsyche> what's the command to find out?
[04:06] <cheapie> kjxl9: OK, yeah...try running "sudo apt-get install joy2key" first.
[04:07] <kjxl9> gimme a minute to copy this down
[04:07] <chaospsyche> how do i find out what chipset is in my wireless usb adapter
[04:08] <killer_> twiggy: Ty.  worked like a charm
[04:08] <ngc604> has anyone here ran ubuntu desktop on a rack mount server?
[04:08] <hesterprynne> how do i change the color of the text in the top bar of unity in 11.04?
[04:08] <kjxl9> it says "Error opening /dev/input/js0! are you sure you have joystick support in your kernal?
[04:08] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, lsusb
[04:09] <cheapie> kjxl9: Yeah...I don't think it'll work.
[04:09] <cheapie> ngc604: I haven't, but it should be the same as a regular desktop.
[04:09] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 050d:945a Belkin Components
[04:09] <kjxl9> how do i enable my wireless network?
[04:09] <cheapie> kjxl9: Have you tried the network manager yet?
[04:09] <kjxl9> nope
[04:09] <kjxl9> i should do that now
[04:10] <chaospsyche> kjxl9: your wi-fi card probably isn't support
[04:10] <cheapie> kjxl9: Good point...
[04:10] <chaospsyche> *supported
[04:10] <ngc604> cheapie, would you think there would be any issues?  i would assume it would be straight foward.  just not sure
[04:10] <kjxl9> ya my laptop IS pretty dam old
[04:10] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: will that work in 10.04
[04:10] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, open google and type your computer name   > model number and get it's info of what card it is
[04:11] <chaospsyche> it's more likely to work the older it is versus if it was new
[04:11] <cheapie> ngc604: I don't think there would be any issues. In fact, ZaReason sells that configuration.
[04:11] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: i just bought this,my comp didn't have wi-fi out of the box
[04:11] <ngc604> ZaReason is a person on here?
[04:12] <cheapie> ngc604: It's a company. They sell computers with Ubuntu preinstalled.
[04:12] <hiexpo> chaospsyche, ok what model the wifi card and version in google and get chipset
[04:12] <chaospsyche> hiexpo: ok one sec
[04:13] <ngc604> cheapie, ok.  i will check them out.  i recently had my laptop stolen and i dont have the money to replace it.  but i have found some cheap 3ghz xeon servers that i think will work for me
[04:14] <ludican> It would be nice if the few companies that sold Ubuntu computers used AMD chips.
[04:14] <cheapie> ngc604: Well, ZaReason happens to sell 3 GHz Intel Xeon servers with Ubuntu Desktop Edition preinstalled, so you should be fine with yours.
[04:15] <smrz> how do i install nvidia drivers for my system while using a live cd?
[04:15] <cheapie> ludican: ZaReason (zareason.com) sells computers with AMD CPUs and Ubuntu.
[04:15] <ngc604> cheapie, do you think a dual 3ghz xeon 4gb ram would be comparible to a core duo 2.5ghz 4gb ram?
[04:15] <hiexpo> smrz, you can't
[04:16] <cheapie> ngc604: It depends on the usage. How do you want to use them?
[04:16] <karan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1KvxI_7-oA&feature=channel_video_title
[04:16] <smrz> hiexpo there's absolutely no way? i uninstalled the nvidia drivers from my system, and on reboot now the screen is all garbeled
[04:16] <ngc604> basic everyday use.  and music recording
[04:16] <karan> please check that out
[04:16] <ianm_> is it still possible to get a synaptic touchpad's SHMConfig accessible to apps?
[04:16] <ngc604> music recording is done through a usb box not onboard sound
[04:16] <cheapie> ngc604: You shouldn't be able to notice a difference at all then.
[04:17] <karan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1KvxI_7-oA&feature=channel_video_title
[04:17] <ludican> Well, I wanted a laptop
[04:17] <cheapie> ludican: Well, you could buy one with Windows and then install Ubuntu on it.
[04:18] <Laggg> need help compiling a kernel
[04:18] <Laggg> http://pastebin.com/fWqNDXb0
[04:18] <cheapie> ludican: I have found the Compaq CQ61-411WM to work well with Ubuntu.
[04:19] <ngc604> ludican, amazon had a lenovo 15.6 core duo 2.2ghz 4gb ram 250gb hdd for $300 recert.  thats a pretty good deal imo
[04:20] <noobiest> cheapie:take a look debconf freeze again after partial upgrade http://postimage.org/image/175z2g810/
[04:20] <ngc604> pacificgeek.com also has a 12.1 core duo 1.86ghz 512k ram 80gb hd off lease for $170.  thought about getting that myself.
[04:21] <cheapie> noobiest: I don't know what to tell you then. Can you try running it in a terminal and see what happens?
[04:21] <cheapie> smrz: If you're still here, I just wanted to say that you might be able to chroot into your installation and install the driver that way.
[04:22] <soziety> Are we all subnormal or only the most of us?     http://aurl.es/b1x
[04:23] <hcook> weird
[04:23] <noobiest> cheapie:what shall i run in terminal?or this bug bcoz i install ubuntu with ubiquity and gave me some error
[04:23] <cheapie> Laggg: Have you tried --initrd or just initrd instead of -initrd?
[04:23] <cheapie> noobiest: I'll go check. Please wait.
[04:23] <Laggg> cheapie: that was the prob
[04:23] <Laggg> fixed ;) thx! +rep
[04:24] <cheapie> noobiest: Try "sudo apt-get install pychess" (or just any other package that isn't installed)
[04:25] <parapara> I have an emacs question, and this is maybe not the right place for it, so let me know: when I try to start gnus with M-x gnus, emacs hangs with no error messages
[04:25] <jismlicious> Hello.  I just upgraded to Natty, and I'm still having the sound issue with pulseaudio and sound from my Hauppauge WinTV PCI card.  Where's the best place to ask for help with that?
[04:25] <cheapie> parapara: I think the emacs community might be a better place to ask.
[04:25] <TrentonAdams> any chance ubuntu will ditch unity?
[04:26] <cheapie> jismlicious: What's the problem?
[04:26] <jismlicious> No sound when I'm watching tv
[04:26] <cheapie> TrentonAdams: Low. Very low.
[04:26] <taglass> TrentonAdams: There's always a chance, but I wouldn't hold my breath
[04:26] <TrentonAdams> taglass: yeah, too bad, cause that likely means gnome won't be supported anymore.  And, hence a need to switch distros.  I'm betting ubuntu will lose a LOT of users now.
[04:26] <jismlicious> Currently unity is working flawlessly for me, though it's definitely a bit of a change
[04:27] <cheapie> jismlicious: Hmm... try running the app with padsp.
[04:27] <taglass> TrentonAdams: GnomeShell will be an option in 11.10
[04:27] <perlsyntax> How do i install the broandcom driver on ubuntu
[04:27] <cheapie> perlsyntax: What model card/chipset are you trying to install?
[04:27] <TrentonAdams> jismlicious: Yeah, it "works", but it's not a "bit" of a change, it's mental.  Ubuntu has managed to show apple how dumb-down they can have an interface.  That's just an amzing feat. :P
[04:28] <parapara> I actually really like unityu
[04:28] <TrentonAdams> parapara: Can you describe why?  Kinda curious, I just couldn't see anything good in it.
[04:28] <perlsyntax> i not sure i don't have linux install on it yet.
[04:28] <TrentonAdams> parapara: except the searching of course.
[04:28] <smrz> anyone else getting on natty install no panels?
[04:28] <cheapie> perlsyntax: Try installing then, it might just work right away.
[04:28] <smrz> i'm just getting my desktop, nothing else, and i can't bring up the dash or anything
[04:28] <perlsyntax> would ubuntu pick them up with hardware driver?
[04:29] <parapara> TrentonAdams: just because I was curious and have never seen it before
[04:29] <TrentonAdams> Anyhow, on a side topic.  I'm sure I used to be able to paste a path into nautilus, when using ubuntu 10, but I can't figure out how to enable that option now.
[04:29] <perlsyntax> ok i try that on tuesday.
[04:29] <cheapie> smrz: Have you tried the Ubuntu Classic option?
[04:29] <smrz> cheapie: no, how do I do that?
[04:29] <cheapie> perlsyntax: It should. No guarantees though.
[04:29] <taglass> TrentonAdams: CTRL-L
[04:29] <perlsyntax> brondcom drivers on windows sucks
[04:29] <cheapie> smrz: Select it in the drop-down box when logging in.
[04:30] <smrz> cheapie: trying it now
[04:30] <TrentonAdams> taglass: thanks, did that change?
[04:31] <taglass> TrentonAdams: No.  Was the same in 10.10
[04:31] <TrentonAdams> taglass: Also, is there a way of having it work by double clicking the location bar, like it used to work?
[04:31] <taglass> TrentonAdams: That I do not know.
[04:32] <TheYellowGTO> How do you run a program from terminal without it being locked to that terminal
[04:32] <cheapie> Wow. This is like regular tech support, but with me juggling 5 phones instead of one...It's fun though.
[04:32] <TrentonAdams> taglass: I think it was a habit that I developed, so I do think that used to be a feature, hmmm.
[04:32] <cheapie> TheYellowGTO: I don't think that's possible.
[04:32] <TrentonAdams> taglass: thanks for the ctrl-l thing though.
[04:33] <taglass> TheYellowGTO: screen
[04:33] <slyrus> how can I make my upstart script wait for my nfs volumes to get mounted?
[04:33] <TheYellowGTO> Yes it is
[04:33] <TheYellowGTO> I've done it but I forget
[04:33] <taglass> TheYellowGTO: run the program under gnu screen
[04:34] <cheapie> slyrus: You can put in "sleep" followed by a number of seconds.
[04:34] <slyrus> cheapie: hmm... sounds like a hack, but OK.
[04:35] <TheYellowGTO> There is something with an & after it
[04:35] <TheYellowGTO> Someone in here told me, but now i'm on mylaptop
[04:35] <TheYellowGTO> And its at home in a text file
[04:35] <cheapie> slyrus: Yeah, it's sort of like "Hey, this thing broke" "Well, why fix it when we can tape it back together?"
[04:36] <taglass> slyrus: Have you looked through http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ ?
[04:36] <slyrus> yeah, that seems to be the only decent documentation on this thing I can find
[04:36] <Zolty1> Hello #ubuntu, wondering where a good place to go for support on the bundled remote desktop application in 10.10
[04:37] <cheapie> I had better leave now. I have a life too, you know...
[04:37] <slyrus> I'm troubled that 1) my script is firing when I have a start on (filesystem and started avahi) line and 2) it doesn't respawn until the nfs mounts succeed
[04:37] <slyrus> ok, thanks Cheapie
[04:40] <CreativeReach> Hi
[04:40] <CreativeReach> hi
[04:40] <Zolty1> Hi
[04:40] <CreativeReach> so whats up
[04:41] <geekorama> anyone using ubuntu one here?
[04:41] <esx> jebus wept
[04:41] <CreativeReach> Yes 11.4
[04:41] <Loshki> slyrus: or move the logic into a script which you run in the background started from /etc/rc.local. There's no guarantee that an nfs mount will work. What if the nfs server's down?
[04:42] <cfedde> qwpoaslk
[04:42] <canthus13> bah. what's teh command to return a terminal to a usable state when you screw up and cat a binary file?
[04:42] <Loshki> canthus13: try 'reset'
[04:42] <canthus13> Loshki: thanks. :)
[04:43] <glacia> hello
[04:43] <glacia> can someone assist me in running an exe gba emulator
[04:44] <html_inprogress> yes?
[04:44] <conner_> I need help changing the resolution of my tty console.
[04:45] <conner> Does anyone know how to change the resolution of the console to fit a 1920x1080 screen?
[04:45] <html_inprogress> tty means what?  conner,
[04:46] <conner_> teletypetypewriter
[04:46] <conner_> what is this an iq test
[04:47] <madsailor> galacia, for running exe's on linux you'll need wine, and their support channel is #winehq
[04:47] <glacia> thank you
[04:47] <conner_> All i know is my console does not produce a desireable resolution and owuld like to fix it
[04:48] <conner_> Before nvidia drivers it would boot with nice crisp font and the tty's would be in the correct resolution
[04:48] <conner_> but after the nvidia drivers the tty consoles and boot is not in a proper resolution
[04:48] <noobiest> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[04:48] <nit-wit> conner, have you tried xrandr to see if you can get what you want and then edit the file
[04:48] <conner_> all im asking is if anyone knows how to fix it as I have been around my ass a billion times googling it
[04:49] <nit-wit> conner, are you chaffed
[04:49] <noobiest> after i run,its lokk like partial upgrade same thing diff way
[04:49] <nit-wit> ;)
[04:49] <slyrus> Loshki: fair enough... but why use rc.local instead of upstart?
[04:49] <conner_> im going to give xrandr a try
[04:49] <ayecee> hyperbole is endearing
[04:50] <slyrus> Loshki: don't the same problems exist there?
[04:50] <noobiest> my debconf still in trouble
[04:50] <html_inprogress> conner_, well i was going to help you ,untill you instulted me.. and i know whatt a tty is my my works with the deaf/ and sometimes i help her
[04:51] <Jordan_U> conner_: xrandr won't help, this isn't X.
[04:51] <Jordan_U> conner_: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[04:51] <slyrus> in any event, I think I've fixed that problem and am on to forked-daapd quitting for some other reason :(
[04:51] <conner_> 11.04
[04:51] <Jordan_U> conner_: Then that's probably the highest resolution possible for the ttys while using the proprietary drivers.
[04:51] <noobiest> after installing new package i must run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' or partial upgrade awfull bcoz debconf freeze
[04:52] <ifqi> how do we can install driver wireless
[04:52] <conner_> so it is unchangeable thats not right
[04:52] <jismlicious> Connor:  I missed it, is the size of text too small, too big, too ..?
[04:52] <ifqi> hello franklv
[04:52] <html_inprogress> connner_,  i was just checking to see if you meant something else,,,,
[04:52] <conner_> too big, as in the dpi is off. This would be because of resolution
[04:53] <ifqi> hello Azelphur
[04:53] <Jordan_U> conner_: When using proprietary drivers there is no kernel mode setting support which means among other things that native drivers can't be used for console ttys. VESA instead must be used and since 11.04 tries to use the highest VESA resultion possible by default what you have is probably the best you can get.
[04:53] <ifqi> hello jordan_U
[04:53] <judgex_> hi, i used parted magic live cd (pmagic-6.0.iso) and tried to grow my ext4 home partition, getting this error "Resize2fs doesn't currently support the combination of flex_bg and !resize_inode." what can i do to resize my ext4?
[04:53] <conner_> your right im rockin the 795 vesa. thanks jordan_U I hate propriatary drivers....
[04:53] <html_inprogress> hi
[04:53] <Jordan_U> ifqi: Hi.
[04:53] <hesterprynne> can someone tell my why my computer freezes whenever i try to change themes? i can click "customise" and change it that way but i cannot change it by clicking on the theme in the main part
[04:53] <ifqi> nice to know you
[04:54] <conner_> does anyone know how to configure vsync on the open source drivers
[04:54] <ifqi> this the first time i joint this forum
[04:55] <Jordan_U> conner_: If you're passing 'vga=795' as a kernel parameter, 1: That has been depricated and 2: You might be making the situation worse as a higher resolution may be available but you are overriding it.
[04:55] <mneorr> hi all, i've just applyed the new ubuntu 11.04 updates, and lost 2 usb ports on sony vaio f series..anyone had the same problem/
[04:55] <html_inprogress> wait for dr_willis
[04:55] <mneorr> ?
[04:55] <c2tarun> I am facing a strange problem with ubuntu, whenever I am entering the password on the login screen its instead of logging in its comming back again and again on password screen. why so?
[04:55] <mneorr> the usb3 port works, but 2 usb 2.0 on the other side doesn't anymore
[04:56] <slinger2519> hey guys could i make an irc server? i have a computer that i have acting as a server right now running 10.04
[04:56] <conner_> nah jordan, highest possible for vesa is 795 and that is what ubuntu is running as max for the propriatary. this is why everytime I try and change it it does not change because it is  already 795.
[04:56] <Toph> c2tarun,,, on 11.04?
[04:56] <c2tarun> Toph: nope on 10.04 lucid
[04:56] <Toph> c2tarun,,, ok
[04:57] <Jordan_U> conner_: OK. So to confirm, you are *not* passing any 'vga=' parameter to the kernel?
[04:57] <c2tarun> Toph: any solution?
[04:57] <html_inprogress> c2tarun,  that one again,huh... update, restart
[04:57] <ngc604> slinger2519, i believe you need the ircd package from synaptic package manager.  then there should be info online on how to set it up.  tho getting it on a major network takes some major internet speed
[04:57] <trinikrono> c2tarun: can you drop to terminal run startx
[04:58] <Toph> c2tarun,,, no,, i was having the same problem with 11.04, and still am, but I think it is Unity crashing
[04:58] <trinikrono> that should not use gdm
[04:59] <c2tarun> I just logged in :( but sometimes it never allows me to login. is there any permanent solution
[04:59] <mneorr> sorry for posting again... anyone lost usb 2.0 on laptop after newest update?
[04:59] <noobiest> debconf-communi what  procces?this process always freeze and make me doing  'sudo dpkg --configure -a' or partial upgrade many time can i remove it?
[04:59] <html_inprogress> im gald i didnt upgade to a "unity[ed ] mess lol
[05:00] <mneorr> unity is very good
[05:00] <ifqi> i'm using ubuntu maverick
[05:00] <KM0201> html_inprogress: definitely some growing pains
[05:00] <mneorr> but this was a kernel update
[05:00] <hesterprynne> can someone tell my why my computer freezes whenever i try to change themes? i can click "customise" and change it that way but i cannot change it by clicking on the theme in the main part. also the color of  the text in the top bar will not change from black, how do i change it?
[05:00] <noobiest> any idea/
[05:00] <mneorr> try logout/login
[05:01] <luite> I've added my user to a group, but my shell doesn't know about it for some reason. is it possible to get a shell with the correct permissions without completely logging out of gnome first?
[05:01] <ifqi> how do we know version
[05:02] <desg_xd> night everyone
[05:02] <html_inprogress> lol,,,  sometime i come for help, but i figure i help out,,, there was like 60 ppl asking about "unity" problems or related
[05:02] <Toph> !version | ifqi
[05:02] <html_inprogress> night
[05:03] <html_inprogress> desg_xd,  night :) see you agian
[05:03] <Toph> html_inprogress,,, are you up on Unity?
[05:04] <html_inprogress> Toph,  huh read up or have it or both or other?
[05:04] <noobiest> anybody can tell me what kind debconf-communi  procces?this process always freeze/sleep but the  window appear after install new package both with ubuntu softwarecenter or apt-get  and make me doing  'sudo dpkg --configure -a' or partial upgrade many time can i remove it?
[05:04] <html_inprogress> i think so, t
[05:04] <Toph> html_inprogress,,, i can't log into the desktop that includes Unity, but I can into the Classic and then load Unity from Compiz,, what gives?
[05:05] <ifqi> thanks mr. ubottu
[05:05] <ifqi> nice to know you
[05:05] <cheapie> ifqi: Ubottu is a bot...
[05:06] <Souperman> !talk to me
[05:06] <ifqi> my version linux ubuntu 10.10 maverick
[05:07] <cheapie> Is there anybody here waiting for help?
[05:07] <ifqi> my linux not detect wireless
[05:07] <cheapie> ifqi: Have you checked network manager?
[05:07] <noobiest> cheapie:problem solved but i must run dpkg-configure --a after install new package and kill that proccess this awfull but Many thanks to your help
[05:07] <Toph> cheapie,,, i am
[05:08] <cheapie> toph: ...what?
[05:08] <ifqi> yes, but not identification wireless
[05:08] <Toph> cheapie,,,  i can't log into the desktop that includes Unity, but I can into the Classic and then load Unity from Compiz,, what gives?
[05:08] <MK``> Is it possible for me to have 2 separate installations of Ubuntu (eg. a 32-bit and a 64-bit) installed but share a list of users and use the same /home partition?
[05:09] <cheapie> ifqi: Try running "lspci | grep wireless"
[05:09] <cheapie> Toph: What happens when you try to log into the Unity desktop?
[05:09] <html_inprogress> compiz , im dont know about unity but i know compiz "gives you hell" lol  just cuz  and some times its random, so try to take in off , update  , restart, , log back in to unity and try in out
[05:09] <cheapie> MK``: Same /home: yes. Same users list: I don't think so.
[05:09] <Toph> cheapie,,, the screen blacks out for 5 seconds and returns to the login screen
[05:10] <Bonkers> maybe I'm missing something, but how do I reboot/logout with this new unity interface? and is there an easy way to disable unity?
[05:10] <Jordan_U> MK``: I'm not sure how manageable that would be but are you aware that you can run 32 bit applications, and a full 32 bit chroot if needed, on 64 bit Ubuntu?
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Bonkers: Click on the power icon at the top right.
[05:10] <cheapie> Toph: check jockey and see if there are any drivers available.
[05:10] <MK``> Yes Jordan_U. I was curious about the process. If I wanted to access the files of a different user in /home on the other installation, I'd have to manually provide the encryption key?
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Bonkers: That hasn't changed recently.
[05:10] <Jordan_U> !classic | Bonkers
[05:11] <Toph> cheapie,,, could you please explain what 'jockey' is
[05:11] <cheapie> Toph: It's the "Additional Drivers" thing.
[05:11] <Bonkers> Jordan_U, thanks, but I think something is broken here, that top right light switch icon doesn't do anything, double click, right click, left click, nothing, and before upgrading I had a system menu with all of this, which I suspect is classic
[05:11] <Souperman> >sudo jockey-gtk
[05:12] <cheapie> Toph: as Souperman said, "sudo jockey-gtk" will launch it.
[05:12] <glacia> #winehq is no help
[05:12] <Jordan_U> Bonkers: I'm pretty sure that logout hasn't been in the System menu since before Ubuntu 10.04.
[05:12] <cheapie> glacia: What is your problem?
[05:13] <Bonkers> kinda wishing I didn't upgrade, this thing is a huge mess, the new kernel doesn't work with my video card, and wireless doesn't seem to work on the old kernel now
[05:13] <glacia> trying to install and run a virtual gba emulator
[05:13] <Souperman> glacia, there are vga emulators native
[05:13] <Toph> cheapie,,, ok,, i'm been there,, the video driver ischeok, let me try
[05:13] <cheapie> glacia: Try this one: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Emulators/Visualboy-Advance-3469.shtml
[05:13] <glacia> souperman, where?
[05:14] <nsur> hi all. i installed 10.10 and it took 10s from BIOS to login page, then i upgrade to 11.04 yesterday. now it takes 110s to get login screen. is 11.04 natty slower??
[05:14] <MK``> Jordan_U / cheapie please check my line :)
[05:14] <html_inprogress> Bonkers,  ? ctrl+alt delete?
[05:15] <glacia> cheapie, i downloaded that im still learning on how to install stuff on ubuntu.... what do i do next
[05:15] <nabi> how can I use smb:// in dest. for rsync command ?
[05:15] <Herbs> nabi mount it first
[05:15] <Jordan_U> MK``: I don't know how encrypted home directories would work with such a setup. What is your end goal?
[05:15] <Souperman> glacia, try gnuboy
[05:15] <nabi> Herbs: ok thanks :X
[05:15] <Herbs> then it will be rsync -switches /mounted/dir/
[05:16] <cheapie> glacia: You should just be able to go into Synaptic and install visualboyadvance-gtk
[05:16] <Souperman> that too
[05:16] <Toph> cheapie,,, it gives me..ATI/AMD propriator FGLRX video driver is already in use
[05:16] <Jordan_U> glacia: Forget what you have downloaded, open Ubuntu Software Center, and search for "game boy"
[05:17] <MK``> Jordan_U: essentially if it is possible to share a user list
[05:17] <Jordan_U> MK``: Sharing a user list is not an end goal :)
[05:17] <cheapie> Toph: Good. However, you can try disabling that, rebooting, and trying again.
[05:17] <Toph> cheapie,,, ok
[05:17] <nabi> Herbs: how can I find device name of smb://.... ?
[05:18] <cheapie> Toph: You could also try "Unity 2D" and see if that works.
[05:18] <Herbs> nabi it wont have a device name
[05:18] <MK``> Jordan_U: I know... just forget it :/
[05:18] <nabi> Herbs: so, how can I mount it?
[05:18] <Herbs> its iirc usually work with nfs not samba host:/share
[05:18] <nabi> mount /media/win/ smb://.... ?
[05:19] <nabi> mount smb://.... /media/win/ ?
[05:19] <Herbs> nabi source always comers before mount point
[05:20] <cheapie> nabi: It seems that the smb stuff is done by nautilus, so mount might not work. If it did, you would probably also need the 'bind' option.
[05:20] <Herbs> nabi easiest way to mount samba shares is using autofs then you can mount them by cd to the dir
[05:21] <Cporter> I installed Ubuntu 11.4 using Wubi and when I booted into it, it says there is no boot partion. I uninstalled and it happened again. Any idea what could causing it
[05:22] <Herbs> cporter not seeting a mount point maybe
[05:22] <Herbs> setting*
[05:22] <hiexpo> wubi is all bad
[05:23] <Cporter> it worke for my laptop but not my desktop
[05:23] <ChronicSyncope> Cporter, try installing 10.10 and then upgrading from within the OS?
[05:24] <Cporter> ok
[05:24] <nabi> Herbs: when I try mount .. get me, wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on sbm:.......
[05:24] <vexati0n> so... i like Natty more than I thought, but there's one thing that's driving me nuts: I have dual monitors, and on the second monitor the menu bar at the top runs off the edge of the screen.
[05:24] <vexati0n> any way to fix that?
[05:24] <renegaid> ubuntu seems to be getting slower and slower with every release
[05:24] <amskinner> ^
[05:24] <vexati0n> natty works better on my machine than maverick did
[05:24] <Souperman> welcome to bloat
[05:25] <Herbs> nabi I usually get around that by using autofs for samba
[05:25] <Herbs> nabi but make sure you have smbfs installed try dpkg -l | grep smbfs
[05:26] <crohakon> I need to create a bootable CD from a windows XP sp3 ISO in order to reinstall XP on a netbook. I can't seem to burn a bootable copy of the CD using the ISO from MSDN. I am trying to burn the CD via Ubuntu using the built in cd burning software. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong?
[05:26] <Ruge> Anyone have a recommendation for a desktop widget to monitor internet use?
[05:26] <nabi> Herbs: yes, here in output
[05:27] <dragon_slayer> cheese
[05:27] <Cporter> did any one here go to LinuxFest Northwest over the weekend?
[05:28] <twinkie-murderer> not that i know of
[05:28] <Herbs> nabi ok install automount apt-get install automount
[05:28] <glacia> Jordan_U you still there
[05:28] <Souperman> ruge gdesklets
[05:28] <byerley> hi can someone tell me if /dev/shm is concurrent read/write safe or where to look that up?
[05:28] <crohakon> I need to create a bootable CD from a windows XP sp3 ISO in order to reinstall XP on a netbook. I can't seem to burn a bootable copy of the CD using the ISO from MSDN. I am trying to burn the CD via Ubuntu using the built in cd burning software. Any ideas on what I am doing wrong? Please note that this is a legal copy as the owner of the netbook has a valid key. The owner is blind, and I am trying to help her out. Anyone?
[05:28] <Herbs> byerley /dev/shm is rw by default
[05:28] <Ruge> thanks Souperman, just installed ubuntu so giving it all a go :)
[05:29] <glacia> nvm
[05:29] <Cporter> get the owner a program called jaws for the netbook
[05:29] <Cporter> brb
[05:29] <killer_> what is the default instant messaging program in ubuntu 10.04LTS?
[05:29] <sugenge> hi
[05:29] <sugenge> good morning
[05:30] <byerley> Herbs: but can I write to it from different processes without the memory being corrupted?
[05:30] <sugenge> disini
[05:30] <sugenge> aku disini
[05:30] <Herbs> byerley I dont see why not
[05:30] <histo> killer_: pidgin I believe if not it's empathy
[05:30] <orbiting> it's empathy
[05:30] <orbiting> since 9.10
[05:30] <nabi> Herbs: unable to locate package automount
[05:31] <killer_> histo/orbiting: roger. I'll look into that.
[05:31] <Herbs> nabi sorry autofs :)
[05:32] <Souperman> crohakon, how are you reading the cd on the netbook?
[05:32] <nabi> Herbs: I thinks problem in dep... ,get me failed to fetch http://archive...
[05:32] <crohakon> Souperman, a portable external cd drive
[05:32] <nabi> *dep = repo...
[05:32] <Snakkah> I decided to switch back to 10.04 as I'm not too pleased with the new Unity interface and for stability reasons, but I was wondering if there would be any harm in upgrading to the latest 2.6.38 kernel on my 10.04 install. What do you all think?
[05:33] <Souperman> there might be your problem, try to make a booteable pendrive
[05:33] <Herbs> nabi what repos you have enabled?
[05:34] <nsur> disini
[05:34] <crohakon> Souperman, I tried that as well. The portable CD drive is not the issue. I was able to use other versions (newer) just fine, but the netbook has only 1 gb and the software she uses is for XP (though, sure it would work in newer versions)
[05:34] <marenostrum> Snakkah, Why don't you plainly use "Ubuntu Classic" interface instead of downgrading?
[05:34] <killer_> how do i view the equivalent of Windows 'Task Manager'?
[05:34] <Herbs> killer top
[05:35] <killer_> herbs: i thought top was only the top 10 processes
[05:35] <Souperman> crohakon, then i guess you already knew this http://wintoflash.com/home/en/
[05:35] <Herbs> killer nvm if you want like task manger system > resource monitor
[05:35] <Herbs> killer no way more powerfull than that
[05:35] <nabi> Herbs: I don't know :D
[05:36] <taglass> killer_:  gnome-system-monitor
[05:36] <Souperman> then i recomend you download some other torrent on the internets and try burning it, remember not  to burn the iso into the cd but to burn the image itself
[05:37] <crohakon> Souperman, no, I did not. It is a zip file, is this a windows program?
[05:37] <Herbs> nabi check in /etc/apt/sources.list or go to system > software sources
[05:37] <inimeg> hi im drunk
[05:37] <Herbs> me too
[05:37] <inimeg> i love my ubuntu though
[05:37] <Snakkah> marenostrum, I did that at first, but even there I noticed some annoying Compiz bugs even in the "Classic" interface in the new release. Along with that, multiple burns of the Live CD would not boot into the live environment at all. As far as I'm concerned, Canonical still needs to work out some bugs before I consider 11.04 again.
[05:38] <inimeg> its not cool with me what they did removing gnome
[05:38] <inimeg> ill survive
[05:38] <inimeg> but its not cool
[05:38] <Souperman> im pretty sure it is crohakon
[05:38] <nabi> Herbs: oh I find it:  mount -t smbfs -o username=<name>,password=<passwd> //sambashare /mountpoint
[05:38] <Axlin> gnome's still there. it's in the sessions list in the login screen inimeg
[05:38] <Herbs> inimeg gnome has not been removed
[05:38] <taglass> inimeg: They didn't have much of a choice.  Gnome2 is dead.
[05:38] <nabi> Herbs: it's works fine :D
[05:38] <marenostrum> Snakkah, I see; I don't know the answer of your original question.
[05:38] <Herbs> nabi cool
[05:39] <inimeg> i havent upgraded yet
[05:39] <jack123> hello all
[05:39] <inimeg> cause of slow internets
[05:39] <jack123> my internet is not working with latest ubuntu
[05:39] <jack123> nforce 630 a
[05:39] <jack123> please help
[05:39] <inimeg> i know its cause xp is dieing
[05:40] <Snakkah> inimeg, like I just said, I wasn't too pleased with Natty. I actually downgraded to 10.04 since it's supported until 2013. Hopefully Unity will mature by then. :D
[05:41] <jack123> any 1 there.?
[05:41] <marenostrum> jack123, I had a problem with internet connection at the beginning as well. I deactivate the connection and activated it again. It connected. Then after, everything is normal. I didn't have to do that all the time I boot. maybe this helps.
[05:41] <inimeg> i agree unity is not high on my list of W.M.
[05:42] <jack123> i have done it many times but its not working
[05:42] <jack123> may be i need drivers.. my connection is working fine in mandriva
[05:42] <Herbs> time for xfce with these new flashy desktops
[05:42] <Snakkah> inimeg, they do allow you to have the old interface though.
[05:42] <SirFunk_> hey, so i just snagged this fancy Acer laptop (Dual core intel) from work... trying the ubuntu boot cd on it.. it doesn't recognize the HDD though :( how can i install?
[05:42] <Snakkah> You might consider that. I did and it didn't work for me but oh well lol
[05:43] <Herbs> sirfunk is the hdd encypted?
[05:43] <jack123> sirfunk there is a acer protection for hdd in bios disable that
[05:43] <marenostrum> jack123, Didyou have any connection problem with the previous release if you were using it? Maverick, I mean.
[05:43] <inimeg> snakkah im a x chat noob how do you get that cool lil ping in my box?
[05:43] <SirFunk_> herbs: don't think so, had windows 7 on it before
[05:44] <Nameless> hi there
[05:44] <SirFunk_> jack123: i don't seen an option for that
[05:44] <jack123> previously i used mandrivaa.. i have switched to ubuntu
[05:44] <Souperman> crohakon, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html
[05:44] <Snakkah> inimeg, I just do that by typing your name.
[05:44] <Nameless> How can i set up a booting system on EFI machines?
[05:44] <nabi> How can I use rsync, wirh keep creation date of directory when I moved ?
[05:44] <Snakkah> lol
[05:44] <inimeg> ty ty
[05:44] <Snakkah> The same thing happened when you typed mine.
[05:44] <jack123> sirfunk there is a option for it i dont actually remember the exact name
[05:44] <Herbs> nabi man rsync :)
[05:44] <inimeg> Snakkah just like this?
[05:44] <Snakkah> inimeg, yes.
[05:45] <chaospsyX> finally I got my wireless usb adapter working in 10.10!
[05:45] <inimeg>  Snakkah ty
[05:45] <Snakkah> Mmhmm.
[05:45] <Snakkah> inimeg, I sent you a message.
[05:46] <jack123> marenostrum are you there.?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> Nameless: Do you have hardware that only supports EFI?
[05:46] <Nameless> MacBook pro
[05:46] <Zeeofu> does anyone know how to boot aternate ubuntu install from usb
[05:46] <Strav> He. I just assembled a small htpc using an asus e35 pro mother board, one with those new amd apu. Now I'm trying to get it to decently play an mp4 video at 1080p and it just choke on it. Now I tried different players (vlc, smplayer), tried different video outputs, tried adjusting my video shared memory, no success... any suggestion on that matter?
[05:46] <Jordan_U> Nameless: That has a BIOS implementation and you'll save yourself headache by using it.
[05:46] <marenostrum> jack123, I'm almost sure that its something related with some settings (or a need of installing a driver, at worst) but I can not say anything in concrete. Lets Google ubuntu+<your network card>
[05:47] <marenostrum> jack123, Yes, I'm here.
[05:47] <Strav> (btw, the system has 2gb of ram)
[05:47] <Zeeofu> does anyone know how to boot aternate ubuntu install from usb
[05:47] <Nameless> i have a MacBook Pro 3.1 (late 2007)
[05:47] <Nameless> same thing?
[05:47] <Herbs> strav your gfx?
[05:47] <jack123> zeeeofu  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[05:48] <Strav> Herbs: you mean what is my video card?
[05:48] <Zeeofu> jack123: Thanks
[05:48] <Herbs> yes
[05:48] <Jordan_U> Nameless: Yes.
[05:48] <Nameless> Jordan_U: at the moment i'm installing the system by saving a 200mb FAT partition as /dev/sda1
[05:49] <Nameless> what do you suggest to do?
[05:49] <komatose> 11.04, my clock has disappeared, and System Settings won't open. Any ideas?
[05:49] <jack123> please some 1 help me my interenet is really not working in ubuntu
[05:49] <ae0000> there used to be a way of using a operating system installed on your machine (windows) as a virtual machine inside of ubuntu... can anyone point me to how or what tech is used to do this?
[05:50] <Strav> Herbs: those amd apu are an integrated solution between gpu and cpu, it's an AMD E-350 APU code name zacate.
[05:50] <ae0000> i remember doing it years ago... just cant remember how
[05:50] <jack123> ae0000 is it vmware.?
[05:50] <marenostrum> jack123, nforce 630 a seems to be your motherboard. What is your network card?
[05:50] <Jordan_U> Nameless: Use this iso: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso burn it to a CD, boot from the CD, use automatic partitioning in the installer.
[05:50] <Herbs> starv hmm dont really have any experience other than nvidia
[05:50] <Strav> Herbs: and btw, I'm using the proprietary amd drivers for this.
[05:50] <Dark_Link> do the intell legacy work with 11.0.4?
[05:50] <atlef> ae0000, virtualbox?
[05:50] <jack123> network card is onboard  nforce networking controller
[05:51] <ae0000> jack123, not sure will take a look... i really cat remember :)
[05:51] <ae0000> atlef, maybe.. i'll have a look
[05:51] <ae0000> found it .. .vmware converter :)
[05:52] <jack123> so i was right :)
[05:52] <Dark_Link> and how would i enable them as i cant stand not being able to play a youtube video without super choppy playback
[05:52] <Herbs> ae0000 virtualbox-ose
[05:52] <Nameless> Jordan_U: to be honest with you i'm installing debian, but i thoight the way for get the system booting is the same as ubuntu
[05:52] <Jordan_U> Nameless: And please do just use automatic partitioning rather than trying to setup partitions manually. It will set up everything correctly.
[05:52] <Nameless> :\
[05:52] <Nameless> *tought
[05:52] <Herbs> nameless ubuntu is based on debian but debian is debian
[05:53] <Nameless> Herbs: i know
[05:53] <wjlafrance> Is there a way to install Ubuntu Server on a headless box?
[05:53] <inimeg> love me some .deb
[05:53] <jack123> i am new to linux which distro will you guys recommend me.?
[05:53] <inimeg> srry ive been drinking
[05:53] <inimeg> ubuntu jackl123
[05:53] <Jordan_U> Nameless: Debian has an IRC channel, #debian, and I answered you in #grub when you asked. Please don't try to get Debian support in #ubuntu.
[05:53] <chaospsyX> jack123: Ubuntu
[05:54] <jack123> ubuntu is creating problems blah
[05:54] <ae0000> Herbs, hmmm have you done it before with virtualbox? cant find any docs for it
[05:54] <chaospsyX> jack123: try fedora
[05:54] <ae0000> Herbs, i take that back :)
[05:54] <jack123> whats the difference between fedora n ubuntu
[05:54] <wjlafrance> jack123: if you can't get ubuntu to work, try gentoo
[05:54] <Dark_Link> i love how i had to use ubuntu 10.10 just to partition my nfs hardrive to make space for 11.0.4
[05:54] <Nameless> you answered me in #grub? sorry, maybe i didn't read
[05:54] <Herbs> jack123 the majority are easy to install these days and easy to use so it doesent really matter check distro watch have a read see which one you fancy really, the only ones not for noobs is slackware and maybe arch
[05:54] <Jordan_U> !ot | inimeg
[05:54] <taglass> jack123: Well If Mandriva was working w/ your hardware, that's a pretty good choice.  openSUSE is also a good choice if you don't wanna use Ubuntu
[05:54] <marenostrum> jack123, Was your internet connection active during installation? Does ubuntu Natty make connection while using the live CD? ıf answers are no and yes; maybe its best to reinstall with a working internet connection.
[05:55] <chaospsyX> jack123: mandriva,debian,fedora all are decent
[05:55] <chronicle_> Hey quick question anyone know any free server blacklists for like porn sites?
[05:55] <babbio> Hi guys I've a problem connecting with svn+ssh, I can connect with ssh to my server but when I use svn+ssh I get the error message "ssh could not resolve hostname name or service not known" what can I do? thank you
[05:55] <Strav> Herbs: just found some specs saying that the graphics controller is AMD Radeon HD 6310... if that's of any matter.
[05:55] <chaospsyX> jack123: mandriva is probably the most noob friendly other than ubuntu
[05:55] <Herbs> jack123 the main diffs fedora is blleding edge they update packages without considering stability (as its red hats test platform) they use rpm instead of deb
[05:55] <hateball> !ot
[05:56] <YellowGTO> Anyone know of Software noise cancellation for linux?
[05:56] <Jordan_U> YellowGTO: Real time?
[05:56] <jack123> marenostrum i read that it has to do with kernel thing .. there were 4 kernel version displayed to me at the time of install and i had to choose one
[05:56] <YellowGTO> Yeah Jordan_U
[05:56] <chaospsyX> Jack123: download 'virtual box' and check them all out
[05:56] <YellowGTO> I have it for windows works well
[05:56] <Jordan_U> YellowGTO: Then no I don't personally, but it probably exists.
[05:56] <YellowGTO> I've been searching google
[05:57] <YellowGTO> Can't seem to find it
[05:57] <Jordan_U> YellowGTO: If you don't get an answer here try in #ubuntustudio.
[05:57] <chaospsyX> Jack123: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[05:57] <marenostrum> jack123, Was it an alternate ISO?
[05:57] <Herbs> strav its an ati card then
[05:57] <chaospsyX> can't believe that program is free
[05:58] <geekorama> hi guys
[05:58] <chaospsyX> hi geekorama
[05:58] <geekorama> how do i manage my bookmarks on ubuntu one account please?
[05:58] <RavenhursT> Alright.. trying to install Ubuntu 11.04 from USB...  I get past my system BIOS and them I stuck w/ "SYSLINUX 3.82 2009-06-09 EBIOS Copyright (C) 1994-2009 H. Peter Anvin et al"
[05:59] <geekorama> i enabled sharing bookmarks, but i dont see them on server, just see files/notes/Contacts
[05:59] <jack123> i have mandriva  and ubuntu as alternate iso
[05:59] <taglass> RavenhursT: How did you create the USB?
[05:59] <chaospsyX> Ravenhurst: what program did you use to make the USB?
[05:59] <RavenhursT> Then I tried removing "ui" from the /syslinux/syslinux.cfg file.. and now I get that same result + "Unkown keyword in configuration file: gfxboot"
[05:59] <chaospsyX> jack123: you can check both of them out in VB
[05:59] <marenostrum> jack123, What happens if you tyr to start from a live CD (not alternate)? Isn't your machine capable of doing that?
[05:59] <RavenhursT> taglass: chaospsyX :  the usb creator tool that's on the UBuntu image..
[05:59] <jack123> ravenhurst  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[05:59] <Herbs> jack123 if you have got used to mandriva then fedora might be your best bet as like mandriva is based on red hat
[06:00] <marenostrum> jack123, Is there a RAM problem?
[06:00] <RavenhursT> jack123... thnx.. I'll giat
[06:00] <jack123> yeah my machince is capable of running live cd
[06:00] <jack123> no there is no ram problem
[06:00] <taglass> Herbs: That may have been true at one point, but that's like saying Suse is still based upon slackware.
[06:00] <Souperman> chronicle_, http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/4-ways-to-create-bootable-live-usb.html
[06:00] <chaospsyX> RavenhursT: watch for any errors when you pendrivelinux....might have a broken image,have to redownload it
[06:00] <Souperman> wait no
[06:00] <marenostrum> jack123, So what happens when you run live CD? No internet connection?
[06:01] <Souperman> chronicle_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DansGuardian
[06:01] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: You used the USB creator that comes on the same image that you wrote to the USB drive?
[06:01] <Herbs> taglass I havent used or kept up eith mandriva since it was mandrake
[06:01] <Dark_Link> :/ i have a gma 945 and the performance is horrible how can i switch to the old drivers that run a bit better?
[06:01] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: yes
[06:01] <jack123> i havent run ubuntu as a live cd  yet
[06:01] <jack123> shall i try i t.?
[06:01] <chronicle_> Thats great thanks Souperman
[06:01] <chaospsyX> give a go
[06:02] <chaospsyX> which version of ubuntu jack123?
[06:02] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: That's really odd because that error is normally from an incompatibility between syslinux versions.
[06:02] <jack123> latest 11.04
[06:02] <jack123> downloaded yesterday
[06:02] <chaospsyX> cool
[06:02] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: yeah.. I dunno... just wanna get it installed..
[06:02] <RavenhursT> lol
[06:02] <Herbs> jack123 if you want to try ubuntu I suggest 10.04
[06:02] <jack123> if i run live cd which things shall i note marenostrum
[06:02] <chaospsyX> jack123: you got a decent video card?
[06:02] <jack123> yes 8800gt
[06:03] <marenostrum> jack123, ıf you aask me, try. If you have a connection, install right then. By the way, I can not get why Ubuntu offers you 4 kernel at the installation. I have never experienced such a thing.
[06:03] <chaospsyX> me neither
[06:03] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: And 11.04 comes with syslinux 4.02, not 3.82 as in your error message?
[06:03] <Dark_Link> it shouldent
[06:03] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: That wasn't meant to have a question mark at the end :)
[06:03] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: That's the message I got...  it just hung there..
[06:03] <jack123> yeah it offered me 4 kernels to chooose from  both were different versions
[06:03] <jack123> all the 4 *
[06:04] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: I have no idea why it said that...
[06:04] <chaospsyX> jack123: the grub menu ?
[06:04] <Jordan_U> RavenhursT: Did you make the USB from Windows or from within Ubuntu booted from a burned CD?
[06:04] <jack123> no the installiton menu
[06:04] <marenostrum> jack123, Note kernel. Note driver for the card(s) and try to note the settings for connection, if any.
[06:04] <chaospsyX> jack123: where did you download the ISO and what distro?
[06:04] <jack123> download from ubuntu homepage
[06:04] <chaospsyX> jack123: alternate?
[06:04] <jack123> distro is ubuntu
[06:05] <marenostrum> jack123, I googled some and I'm almost sure that it should work.
[06:05] <jack123> what is altername.?
[06:05] <jack123> altetnate*
[06:05] <chaospsyX> whats the filename of your ISO image
[06:05] <RavenhursT> Jordan_U: I dl'd the .iso from the ubuntu.com torrent link.. then I mounted the image using... uh.. clonedvd or something like that.. then I copied the usb creation tool to my HD.. ran it.. then I rebooted w/ the usb drive and that's what I got..
[06:05] <jack123> you mean it will work after reinstallation..?
[06:05] <jack123> ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64
[06:06] <amitush> hello
[06:06] <atlef> RavenhursT, get unetbootin and use that to make your usb http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[06:06] <jack123> raven hurst follow this link n download the software .. it will create a bootable usb ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64
[06:06] <taglass> amitush: Hello
[06:06] <amitush> need help with installing edimax wireless pci card
[06:06] <jack123> ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64
[06:06] <amitush> is it possible ?
[06:07] <amitush> through command?
[06:07] <chaospsyX> jack123: you got a 64-bit cpu ?
[06:07] <jack123> yes
[06:07] <jack123> amd x2 4400+
[06:07] <marenostrum> jack123, Alternate: There's an instalation image which is mainly for old machines with not sufficient RAM and you do some things manually with it. I don't advice it. If your machine is OK for a atandars ISO go with it. And try to let Ubuntu to recognize and do the standard installation.
[06:07] <RavenhursT> atlef:  ok...
[06:07] <jack123> ok
[06:07] <chaospsyX> jack123: remake the usb with pendrive linux
[06:08] <marenostrum> jack123, * atandars= standard
[06:08] <taglass> amitush: I've never tried it, but there are some results on google for that card and ubuntu
[06:08] <Dark_Link> chalcedony, do you know how to install the old intell drivers?
[06:08] <jack123> ok i will explain how my internet works
[06:08] <jack123> i have a wimax connection
[06:08] <chaospsyX> wimax?
[06:09] <jack123> yeah
[06:09] <komatose> inSSIDer doesn't seem to work in 11.04. I click it and nothing happens. Anyone have any ideas? Anything better to use?
[06:09] <Dark_Link> its like 4g internet
[06:09] <chaospsyX> what is that?
[06:09] <jack123> yeah its like 4g interent
[06:09] <genewitch> like the opposite of LTE 4g
[06:09] <genewitch> there's LTE and wimax
[06:09] <Herbs> jack123 can your network adapters handle 4 gig?
[06:09] <RavenhursT> arg... so many different ways to skin a freakin' Narwahl..
[06:09] <genewitch> clearwire uses wimax, etc
[06:10] <Dark_Link> 4g networks are like med dsl
[06:10] <Dark_Link> lol
[06:10] <jack123> when i open firefox  the default login page opens .. where is have to enter user name and password.. but the problem is its not opening
[06:10] <jack123> i guess its not automatically detecting ip
[06:10] <wjlafrance> I hate companies who brand their stuff 4G. I'm surprised the FCC lets them get away with it. It's all 3.8 or 3.9G.
[06:10] <Herbs> yeah nvm lo to much to drink before engaging brain
[06:10] <jack123> but i am not the same connection right now using in windows
[06:10] <blackshirt> how to check if  we have sucessfully upgraded ubuntu system ??
[06:10] <komatose> so-called 8ft and 9ft ceilings are like 7.91 ft and 8.91 ft high.
[06:11] <marenostrum> jack123, ıf connection works with live CD and you install but not have a connection after the initiall reboot, plainly deactivate and reactivate the connection from the GUI (from right top)
[06:11] <chaospsyX> jack123: are you using wimax right now in windows?
[06:11] <histo> blackshirt: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:11] <histo> blackshirt: add sudo in there ofcourse: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:11] <pie_> are there no tutorials for general unity usage?(ubuntu 11/04 gui)
[06:11] <jack123> i have done deactivating and activating it from top right but still not working
[06:11] <taglass> !msg | amitush
[06:11] <histo> pie_: on the homepage
[06:11] <jack123> yeah i am using it right now in windows
[06:12] <Cporter> Well that didnt work. I just won't install Ubuntu right now. I redid the install with wubi for 10.10 and had the same problem.
[06:12] <marenostrum> jack123, I understand it. I say for the next installation.
[06:12] <pie_> histo, unity homepage or ubuntu?
[06:12] <chaospsyX> jack123: do you know to log-into the wimax box ? access the shell ?
[06:12] <histo> pie_: ubuntu homepage
[06:12] <chaospsyX> *how to log-in
[06:12] <Dark_Link> ok so who can help me with installing older drivers?
[06:12] <jack123> yes i know
[06:12] <histo> pie_: they just added a new features thing or something
[06:12] <atlef> pie_, http://omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/
[06:12] <jack123> you mean the root page . <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:12] <chaospsyX> in ubuntu does it connect to it?
[06:12] <chaospsyX> yeah
[06:13] <jack123> oh i havent checked it
[06:13] <jack123> in ubuntu
[06:13] <blackshirt> histo: i know, i mean how to see our new system version
[06:13] <jack123> shall i check it and be back.?
[06:13] <chaospsyX> you know on the panel on the top,can you connect to the wimax signal
[06:13] <chaospsyX> does it even show wireless connections?
[06:13] <histo> blackshirt: cat /etc/issue
[06:13] <chaospsyX> *wireless networks i mean
[06:14] <killer_> how do i find additional panel applets for 'The gnome panel 2.30.2'? i want a CPU tracking one where it shows the CPU usage graph.  I have it on Crunchbang with XFCE
[06:14] <jack123> no wireless networks for me
[06:14] <chaospsyX> the icon that looks like a signal
[06:14] <histo> Ubuntu 10.10 \n \l
[06:14] <histo> blackshirt: ^^^^
[06:14] <jack123> yeah it shows
[06:14] <pie_> thanky you!
[06:14] <jack123> thats icon
[06:14] <Cporter> how do you fix "No root file system defined" After a install using Wubi?
[06:14] <jack123> yeah it shows that icon
[06:14] <KM0201> jack123: whats your wireless device?
[06:14] <chaospsyX> does it list a wireless network when you click that icon?
[06:14] <blackshirt> histo: thanks
[06:14] <pie_> ok cmon innovative new concept? mac has been using dash forever :P
[06:14] <jack123> yeah it lists but its blank
[06:14] <jack123> because i dont have wireless
[06:15] <jack123> and on wired it list something e0401 or something like that
[06:15] <chaospsyX> you have a ethernet cable going to your comp?
[06:15] <histo> killer_: gnome has an applet called system monitor or something
[06:15] <jack123> yes
[06:15] <chaospsyX> oh
[06:15] <marenostrum> jack123, and other friends: Jack says that Ubuntu is offering him 4 kernels to choose one during installation. What kind of an installation is that?
[06:15] <histo> killer_: there are many others xfce has one as well
[06:15] <chaospsyX> you have DHCP turned on?
[06:15] <chaospsyX> on the wimax box ?
[06:15] <histo> killer_: right click in xfce and select add to panel then start typing in cpu
[06:15] <jack123> yeah
[06:15] <jack123> dhcp
[06:16] <KM0201> jack123: what is your wireless device.. thats the first step in figuring out why you're wireless doesn't work
[06:16] <chaospsyX> he doesnt have wireless
[06:16] <chaospsyX> he has a 4g wimax box
[06:16] <jack123> yyeah right
[06:16] <KM0201> ohhhhhh.. ok
[06:16] <KM0201> my bad
[06:16] <KM0201> i was confused
[06:16] <chaospsyX> but the box is receiving a wireless signal ?
[06:16] <chaospsyX> and sending that to your comp over ethernet?
[06:17] <jack123> yeah absolutely right
[06:17] <killer_> Hista: I'm in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS right now and it uses the Gnome Panel 2.30.  I have added to panel but the only CPU item I find is to change the CPU freqency.
[06:17] <chaospsyX> go into <IP_ADDRESS> and hit the print screen button
[06:17] <chaospsyX> and show me
[06:17] <chaospsyX> no wait
[06:17] <jack123> ok
[06:17] <chaospsyX> do this
[06:17] <killer_> hista: system monitor ended up being what i wanted.  TY
[06:18] <jack123> ok tell me
[06:18] <chaospsyX> boot into the live cd and 'try ubuntu'
[06:18] <jack123> ok then
[06:18] <chaospsyX> on the top panel click system > administration > network tools
[06:18] <jack123> ok then
[06:19] <chaospsyX> theres a pull-down menu on 'network devices '
[06:19] <jack123> ok then
[06:19] <marenostrum> jack123, from what media did you install? I'm still curious about that 4 kernel choice.
[06:19] <Dark_Link> hey can some one tell me how to go to xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4 o n 11.0.4?
[06:19] <jack123> from usb
[06:19] <Dark_Link> get
[06:19] <mkquist> anyone know how to reconfigure display resolution?  Just had to change to onboard nvidia card as old nvidia add on failed... ubuntu 10.04 at grub screen its fine, but once it loads it only goes to 800x600
[06:19] <chaospsyX> select (eth0) and see if it has been assigned an IP. It (eth0) should be on the list too.
[06:20] <jack123> shall i show you the screen shots ..?
[06:20] <chaospsyX> try this first
[06:20] <hateball> mkquist: use nvidia-settings
[06:20] <Herbs> jack123 try the kernel ending -29
[06:20] <jack123> ook
[06:20] <jack123> will be right back
[06:20] <chaospsyX> k
[06:20] <marenostrum> jack123, no need. try to let ubuntu decide almost all. Except your user name etc.
[06:20] <pie__> ok now i have render artifacts :/
[06:20] <jack123> taking screen shots on ubuntu n windows are smiliar.?
[06:20] <chaospsyX> yup
[06:20] <mkquist> hateball: kinda of obvious... should try that.. ty
[06:20] <jack123> cool
[06:21] <Herbs> jack123 use the one ending -29 theres been 2 relesed since
[06:21] <jack123> paint is similar to .?
[06:21] <MonkeyDust> guys, about ubuntu cloud, how can i delete files without deleting them from my hard disk?
[06:21] <hateball> mkquist: you need to "gksudo nvidia-settings" for some settings to stick tho... I cant recall exactly which
[06:21] <marenostrum> jack123, Don't try to choose kernel type or something. Let the live CD decide.
[06:21] <mkquist> hateball: k
[06:21] <jack123> ok
[06:22] <chaospsyX> jack123: the ip should not be <IP_ADDRESS> either
[06:22] <chaospsyX> it should be 192.168.1.xxx
[06:23] <Herbs> jack123 if you want to troubleshoot properly use the older kernel and work from there
[06:24] <chaospsyX> jack123: also do 'lspci' and see if your NIC is on there
[06:24] <chaospsyX> if its on there then it's loaded right? working properly? correct driver? Herbs?
[06:25] <chaospsyX> it will be listed by 'ethernet controller'
[06:25] <Dark_Link> whats the apt source so i can downgrade video drivers
[06:25] <Herbs> chaospsyX it should be
[06:25] <Dark_Link> for 11.0.4
[06:25] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, ısn't it better if jack123 try live CD and if works let the CD make the installation in what way it sees OK?
[06:25] <chaospsyX> yeah
[06:26] <chaospsyX> he did that already and said internet wasn't working though right ? jack123?
[06:26] <marenostrum> yes.
[06:26] <Herbs> marenostrum no why let anything decide especially when you are trying to fix an issue!
[06:26] <chaospsyX> jack123: Have you booted into the live cd and done 'try ubuntu' ?
[06:27] <marenostrum> Herbs, Can you figure out the problem?
[06:27] <Herbs> not yet
[06:27] <taglass> chaospsyX: I believe he left to go boot the live cd.  I haven't noticed him log back in
[06:27] <multipass__> Hi, i cant get edge flipping to work properly in 11.04 Gnome... anyone have any solutions or ideas?
[06:27] <chaospsyX> why was he saying his internet wasn't working????
[06:28] <chaospsyX> and why would a live cd ask him to select a kernel image? he has left out some info
[06:28] <chaospsyX> grub does that after installation
[06:28] <pie_> what has ctrl-alt-backspace been replaced with?
[06:29] <administrator_> Hello
[06:29] <administrator_> Is anyone  here
[06:29] <ZykoticK9> pie_, alt+sysrq(usually printscreen)+k
[06:29] <chaospsyX> ahoy
[06:30] <administrator_> e
[06:30] <marenostrum> Herbs, Maybe you know: What's that 4 kernel options that Jack is saying? For may Debian and ubuntu installations up till now, I've never asked something like that.
[06:30] <chaospsyX> me neither
[06:30] <marenostrum> may=many
[06:30] <chaospsyX> i don't know what he was talking about.....
[06:30] <Herbs> marenostrum exactly thats why I think hes done something wrong
[06:30] <administrator_> 有懂汉语的吗？
[06:31] <taglass> !cn
[06:31] <marenostrum> Herbs, me too. Because of that I advice a syandard installation.
[06:31] <pie_> oh man this is disastrous lol
[06:31] <pie_> whered taskbarthings go xD
[06:31] <chaospsyX> he also mentioned something about the 'alternate' iso image way back too
[06:31] <traskers> I just installed Gnome Shell via ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3, but when I try to log in to the session, it tells me "Could not update ICEauthority (/home/users/.ICEauthority)" and kicks me out, can anyone help?
[06:32] <traskers> (Running 11.04)
[06:32] <pie_> what textfile do i reset to fix my screwed up gui? :/
[06:32] <chaospsyX> isn't that a text-based installation ?
[06:32] <chaospsyX> i'm not familiar with the alternate iso
[06:32] <ZykoticK9> pie_, /etc/X11/xorg.conf probably
[06:32] <taglass> pie_: Go to System Settings -> HArdware -> Keyboard -> Options -> Key sequence to kill the X server if you want the old ctrl - alt - bksp back
[06:32] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, First I mentioned alternate. Asked if you used that ISO. Then he asked what alternate is.
[06:33] <chaospsyX> oh lol
[06:33] <chaospsyX> nah i never used it
[06:33] <pie_> man im totally destroying this
[06:33] <karthick87> How to remove appearance from Preferences Menu?
[06:34] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, maybe it was better to ask him the name or md5sum of the ISO he downloaded.
[06:35] <taglass> He said the filename for natty 64 bit livecd
[06:35] <traskers> I just installed Gnome Shell via ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 on a new installation of 11.04, but when I try to log in to the session, it tells me "Could not update ICEauthority (/home/users/.ICEauthority)" and kicks me out, can anyone help?
[06:35] <Herbs> marenostrum probablly but then again hes seeing 4 kernels from the install disk lol
[06:35] <chaospsyX> he probably doesn't even know what md5 is
[06:35] <soap> kk
[06:35] <pie_> theres a sh script called Xreset, or should i just delete the xorg.conf file?
[06:36] <pie_> acually no xorg.conf
[06:36] <chaospsyX> the version of syslinux he was seeing was not what his iso image should have contained either
[06:36] <chaospsyX> so......who knows
[06:36] <marenostrum> Herbs, :( I feel bad for him. I hope he'll solve the problem because I don't think that there's a real problem. (I mean, he should connect.)
[06:36] <Herbs> maybe hes downloaded a root kitted rogue install
[06:37] <marenostrum> Herbs, Is there such a chance?!
[06:37] <pie_> >.<
[06:37] <robrrt> ?? uhh?
[06:37] <Herbs> marenostrum technically there is but the likeliness I dont know but end users never seem to suprise me
[06:38] <marenostrum> Herbs, I see. :)
[06:38] <zabyl> kernel bug http://bit.ly/jpStCy  line:2921
[06:38] <soap> has anybody used this ? http://e4rat.sourceforge.net/   i'm not sure if this'll work for dual boot config
[06:38] <zabyl> kernel bug http://bit.ly/m2BtFD line:1401
[06:39] <pie_> not to be naggy but...i have exams coming up and i kind of need to figure this out :/ ive never messed with xorg and i actually cant make any new windows come p other than irc because that  starts p automatically
[06:39] <pie_> *up
[06:39] <multipass__> Hi, i cant get edge flipping to work properly in 11.04 Gnome... anyone have any solutions or ideas?
[06:40] <zabyl> run into btrfs bugs in 11.04 Server x64
[06:40] <pie_> im logged in in the shell you get when you press ctrl+alt+f1
[06:41] <Herbs> pie_ what happens when you type service gdm start
[06:43] <zabyl> anyone using btrfs with 11.04 Server x64?
[06:43] <pie_> rejected send message, 1 matched rulelots of stuff hat would take a long time to type
[06:45] <zabyl> need help with btrfs bugs in 11.04 server
[06:47] <Herbs> pie_ service gdm start > output.txt then upload to pastebin
[06:47] <Dark_Link> can some one pleez tell me how to add these 2 sources deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-retro/ubuntu lucid main
[06:47] <Dark_Link> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-x-swat/x-retro/ubuntu lucid main
[06:47] <Dark_Link> i cand add them for my lifr for some reason
[06:48] <marenostrum> Interesting. When did I say Firefox to remember my pass for Launchpad? I don't like this. Maybe by an accident but I don't like this!
[06:48] <zabyl>  ext2 /boot  btrfs / works with 10.10 Server x64
[06:48] <Herbs> Im not promising to help I know nothing about gui but just troubleshooting steps
[06:48] <Starminn> marenostrum: So tell it not to.
[06:48] <zabyl> kernel bugs with 11.04
[06:48] <FHtrain> i dont know what happened i can no longer log on to wubi. when i boot and choose ubuntu, it says something about TAB and i cant log on. and when i connect the drive with wubi installed to another ubuntu os, i can only find the windows files. what happened to the ubuntu files?
[06:49] <Dark_Link> herbs do you know how to add sources/
[06:49] <Dark_Link> ?
[06:49] <sunshine1> be more specific,FHtrain
[06:49] <Herbs> dark_link as in add to repo list
[06:49] <sunshine1> wat is this TAB??
[06:49] <marenostrum> Starminn, I will do so but first I want to see if it remembered it against my will. I want to check (I don't know how to test :) )
[06:49] <Dark_Link> yes like via terminal
[06:50] <Dark_Link> i cant seem to get it right
[06:50] <gordolinux> is it possible to configure a per workspace spread mode in ubuntu?
[06:50] <Starminn> marenostrum: Delete all form data and current logins, then try to replicate it.
[06:50] <gordolinux> i don't like seeing all my windows at once.
[06:51] <Herbs> dark_link open /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:51] <duende> hola buenas noches
[06:51] <Dark_Link> opened
[06:51] <marenostrum> Starminn, Yea. Thanks.
[06:51] <duende> alhuien sab de xubuntu???
[06:51] <duende> *alguien?
[06:51] <duende> xubuntu?
[06:51] <FHtrain> sunshine1,  in the command line it gives me option to type TAB and when i do, i see all these commands i dont understand
[06:51] <Herbs> dark_link and add the repo usually iirc deb http://repo
[06:52] <pie_> i got it
[06:52] <pie_> of all things i forgot sudo
[06:52] <Starminn> !xubuntu | duende
[06:52] <pie_> and i finally found where toset the layout at login
[06:52] <pie_> thanks
[06:52] <duende> ubottu gracias!! :D
[06:53] <pie_> someting still doesnt seem right though...
[06:53] <zabyl> anyone can help with btrfs bug in 11.04
[06:53] <duende> I know xubuntu but i have problem
[06:53] <Herbs> dark_link you will need to add the key also but Im not that familiar with apt Ive been a slackware/redhat (based user) so used to yum
[06:53] <Dark_Link> ya and thats what im failing at
[06:53] <duende> starminn thak you
[06:53] <STF> how can i change the keymaps, cause the installationroutine give me the english one an not the german
[06:53] <Dark_Link> i cant seem to add the key right
[06:53] <duende> alquien habla español ???
[06:53] <q0_0p> anyone know how to install unity on 10.04?
[06:54] <bazhang> !es | duende
[06:54] <digitech> does anyone know of a terminal/DOS looking theme for mIRC?
[06:54] <Starminn> !espanol | duende
[06:54] <Dark_Link> unity comes installed
[06:54] <Starminn> Dark_Link: 10.04
[06:54] <duende> gracias!!! :D voy a un canal en Ñ
[06:54] <q0_0p> Dark_Link, really?
[06:54] <Starminn> q0_0p: No. He misread
[06:54] <Dark_Link> yes
[06:55] <Starminn> duende:  /join #ubuntu-es
[06:55] <q0_0p> Dark_Link, menu doesn't look the same like unity
[06:55] <Dark_Link> isnt the bar part of unity/
[06:55] <STF> how can i change the keymaps, cause the installationroutine give me the english one an not the german
[06:55] <Dark_Link> oh duno then
[06:55] <dspace> Dark_Link: The instructions to add the PPA are here: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[06:55] <Starminn> Dark_Link: As I said, he said 10.04. Not 11.04.
[06:55] <Dark_Link> yes and im failing some how
[06:56] <dspace> Dark_Link: Basically, type: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[06:56] <dspace> then: sudo apt-get update
[06:56] <Dark_Link> X(
[06:56] <Dark_Link> ty
[06:56] <glacia> ok i think i need some help..... somethings not right with my system
[06:56] <Starminn> !details | glacia
[06:58] <q0_0p> 2.6.32-31-generic #61-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 8 18:24:35 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:58] <q0_0p> using ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[06:58] <sjuxax> I am using natty server in a VM. I cahnged the MAC address from what it was installed with and now eth0 won't appear. How do I fix this? I've tried dpkg-reconfigure network to no win
[06:58] <Herbs> q0_0p you have updated the kernel thats all
[06:59] <STF> how can i change the keymaps, cause the installationroutine give me the english one an not the german
[06:59] <Dark_Link> dspace, 'xserver-xorg-video-intel-2.4'
[06:59] <Dark_Link>  :(
[06:59] <pie_> i found something quite problematic with selecting the classic layout on login,theres no window frames just thw windows
[06:59] <duende> Starminn gracias! ya estoy ahí. Thack you I am there
[06:59] <q0_0p> Herbs, not understanding
[06:59] <Dark_Link> cant find it
[06:59] <q0_0p> Herbs, are you saying i should update the kernel?
[06:59] <pie_> any popups and such from firefox etc dont have minimize, exit maximize or move
[06:59] <Herbs> q0_0p your kernel has updated so thats why grum menu has changed
[06:59] <Herbs> grub*
[06:59] <Starminn> duende: De nada.
[07:00] <sjuxax> lspci shows it as an Ethernet controller, but does not show in ifconfig
[07:00] <glacia> i dont think i have all the drivers or something..... I have a great system that can handle anything but for some reason running ubuntu and games on wine its not up to par
[07:00] <q0_0p> Herbs, not having any troubles with grub
[07:00] <q0_0p> Herbs, just wondering if there was a package for unity
[07:00] <dspace> Dark_Link: What are you trying to do exactly?
[07:00] <main> grup what is that
[07:00] <Dark_Link> downgrade the video drivers for performance
[07:01] <Dark_Link> my intell gma 945 just fails
[07:01] <Dark_Link> cant play simple youtube
[07:01] <Dark_Link> let alone 3d edditing
[07:01] <Herbs> q0_0p theres a package for any software
[07:01] <dspace> Dark_Link: What version do you have and what version are you trying to get?
[07:03] <Dark_Link> im trying to get 2.4
[07:03] <pie_> *sigh*
[07:03] <Herbs> dark_link 2.4 kernel ?
[07:03] <Dark_Link> drivers
[07:03] <inimeg> < drunk linux user
[07:05] <glacia> honestly i think i just need an ubuntu advisor or tutor i can talk to lol
[07:06] <jack123> hello i am back
[07:06] <jack123> chaospsyX you there.?
[07:07] <chaospsyX> im here
[07:07] <chaospsyX> so what happened
[07:07] <Dark_Link> and i have X.Org X server -- Intel i8xx, i9xx display driver o.o
[07:07] <jack123> marenostrum.
[07:07] <jack123> i am on ubuntu
[07:07] <Liera> good aternoon everyone!
[07:07] <jack123> its working with live cd
[07:07] <chaospsyX> what took so long ?
[07:08] <chaospsyX> ;-)
[07:08] <jack123> not working with installed
[07:08] <marenostrum> jack123, Yes Jack. I'm here.
[07:08] <jack123> i am trying to figure out
[07:08] <chaospsyX> are you doing a dual-boot? or giving ubuntu  the whole hdd
[07:08] <jack123> its working it live usb but not working while i install it
[07:08] <Herbs> jack123 reinstall you did soemething wrong last time getting to the bottom of what would take longer than a reinstall
[07:08] <jack123> i am giving whole 160 gb
[07:08] <jack123> to ubuntu
[07:09] <chaospsyX> reinstall
[07:09] <marenostrum> jack123, What is the ISO you have at hand? name? bd5sum?
[07:09] <jack123> damn this is strange . internet works on live cd but doesnt work after installation
[07:09] <Dark_Link> i see the package isnt in that source
[07:09] <jack123> ubuntu 11.04 amd 64 bit
[07:10] <luckysmack> when running 'apt-get update' is it possible to only update a single source/repository?
[07:10] <duende> hi!!
[07:10] <duende> I can not see a video maximized without restarting the graphical environment
[07:10] <duende> :(
[07:10] <marenostrum> jack123, You are sure that 64 bit is OK for you?
[07:10] <duende> in xubuntu 11.04
[07:10] <jack123> yeah i am sure its working with the live usb
[07:11] <jack123> how to find out system specs on linux i will copy paste here
[07:11] <Clerisy> what software can i use to format a usb with an os?
[07:11] <Herbs> jack123 top and copy the main bit at the top if that makes any sense
[07:11] <marenostrum> jack123, Interesting but now we know that it works with live CD so we should try to find what is different with the installed system. Friends, any idea to check?
[07:12] <chaospsyX> Clerisy: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pendrivelinux.com%2Funiversal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3%2F&rct=j&q=pendrivelinux%20123&ei=ppy_Tc-gCoPpgQf_t9jbAg&usg=AFQjCNGdSazRNs32lEZo8ZfvenfYK9ML_A&cad=rja
[07:12] <glacia> i really need help figuring out why my top of the line computer is failing to run a steam game like it did in windows
[07:12] <chaospsyX> oops
[07:12] <FloodBot1> chaospsyX: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <jack123> yeah interesting for me as well
[07:12] <Herbs> galacia steam wont work on linux its written for windows
[07:12] <main> Herbs you called me?
[07:12] <glacia> even with wine or playonlinux
[07:12] <chaospsyX> i have no idea, try a reinstall
[07:13] <jack123> if re install doesnt works :(
[07:13] <Herbs> main no might have typed main :)
[07:13] <Clerisy> chaospsyX» thats an .exe
[07:13] <marenostrum> jack123, Did it ask anything such as kernel etc. during installation?
[07:13] <chaospsyX> you trying to make a live usb stick ?
[07:13] <jack123> yeah it did ask but i selected the defaults 1
[07:13] <Clerisy> yes ch
[07:13] <Clerisy> chaospsyX»
[07:13] <Clerisy> under linux though
[07:13] <jack123> though i got 4 kernels
[07:13] <marenostrum> jack123, ı see.
[07:14] <chaospsyX> download unetbootin then clerisy
[07:14] <glacia> Herbs, even with wine or playonlinux. the Playonlinux is what steam says to use
[07:14] <jack123> wait i will show you
[07:14] <duende> hi... i have a problem with xubuntu ...
[07:14] <Clerisy> thanks
[07:14] <duende> anybody?? ...
[07:14] <chaospsyX> yes please jack,want to see this
[07:14] <Herbs> glacia wine would be your best bet but Im not a windows user sorry
[07:14] <jack123> install ubuntu wont close this i guess.?
[07:14] <chaospsyX> i don't think so, Herbs ?
[07:15] <marenostrum> jack123, On both the live CD and the installed system what is the result of uname -a . I mean, lets try to check the kernel versions.
[07:15] <Herbs> glacia but If it uses .net then you might as well forget it
[07:15] <jack123> how ot do that
[07:15] <chaospsyX> jack do you have another usb stick? your going to need to save the screen capture some how to upload it
[07:15] <chaospsyX> open the terminal jack
[07:15] <glacia> can wine or some program be used to play WoW?
[07:15] <chaospsyX> applications > accesories > terminal
[07:16] <Dark_Link> wow
[07:16] <DaHopi> hello, in 11.04 (unity) my left panel doesnt hide if i maximize my app window..
[07:16] <chaospsyX> type uname -a
[07:16] <Dark_Link> it is just as bad
[07:16] <chaospsyX> do the same command once you install
[07:16] <Maahes> what's 11.04's name?
[07:16] <misse-> Natty Narwhal Maahes
[07:16] <jack123>  Linux ubuntu 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:16] <Maahes> glacia: yes, wine can play wow, there's a wiki for setting it up
[07:16] <Maahes> misse-: thankyou
[07:17] <glacia> Maahes, link to the wiki please?
[07:17] <marenostrum> jack123, was that one for the installed?
[07:17] <Maahes> glacia: google wine hq for list of games supported and look for wow, there's a link there.
[07:17] <Starminn> !wineh1 | glacia
[07:17] <Starminn> !winehq | glacia
[07:17] <chaospsyX> jack123: when you installed and got to partitioning what did you select? 'use entire disk' ?
[07:17] <jack123> you mean <IP_ADDRESS>.?
[07:17] <jack123> yes entire disk
[07:18] <duende> hola?? ...
[07:18] <chaospsyX> jack123: you need to check the md5 of the iso image
[07:18] <chaospsyX> and see if they match
[07:18] <duende> tengo problemas con el video de xubuntu ... alguien me puede colaborar??
[07:18] <jack123> hmm
[07:18] <Starminn> duende: Va a #ubuntu-es.
[07:19] <marenostrum> jack123, lets check md5sum of the ISO now.
[07:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> alright, my friend is having issues with his computer, yet he feels that his knowledge of linux is insufficient for him to come to the IRC channel and ask for help, so I'm going to for him since I'm not sure what is up. He has a dual boot, windows 7 64bit and ubuntu 32bit. when he boots, he gets a "select OS" screen, and then when he chooses ubuntu, he gets taken to grub2, where he has to choose ubuntu again, but this leads to a blank
[07:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> screen with a blinking cursor and nothing happens (note that this was after he attempted to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04), choosing windows takes him back to the first boot selection, and choosing windows from there boots windows 7. He installed windows 7 first, and then ubuntu on a different partition on the same hard drive.
[07:19] <jack123> ok
[07:19] <marenostrum> jack123, do you know how to do?
[07:19] <Herbs> jack123  2.6.38-8-generic  what install are you using?
[07:19] <jack123> nope
[07:19] <Herbs> thats an old kernel
[07:19] <jpohl> how do i change gdm theme/appearance in xubuntu?
[07:20] <Dark_Link> X( netbook suport still fails in ubuntu
[07:20] <marenostrum> jack123, Opğen a terminal go to where the ISO is. write md5sum nameoffile.iso
[07:21] <jack123> ok  thanks
[07:21] <marenostrum> I'm waiting here. lets solve this.
[07:21] <jack123> i am not able to open windows  disk
[07:21] <jack123> its in tuere
[07:21] <jack123> its in there
[07:21] <chaospsyX> on another computer?
[07:21] <skyion> Hi Guys
[07:21] <misse-> jpohl: http://www.ubuntu-tennessee.org/tutorials/205/ <-- that will make your loginscreen spawn the gnome-appearance window, so just change the background and login
[07:21] <jack123> though i am able to open external hard disk
[07:21] <chaospsyX> or another disk in same computer case?
[07:22] <skyion> is there a problem with the ubuntu repo? http://paste.ubuntu.com/602636/
[07:22] <jack123> ok i am able to open installation  locked it
[07:22] <chaospsyX> jack123: ?
[07:22] <marenostrum> jack123, There's a tool for windows you can find from download.com : md5summer . You can get md5sum of the ISO with that.
[07:23] <chaospsyX> do you have two hard-drives in the computer jack?
[07:23] <Herbs> skion cleaning the cache may work whatever the alternative yo yum clean all is for apt
[07:23] <duende> hi, i have a problem with xubuntu,  I can not see a video maximized without restarting the graphical environment
[07:23] <jack123> ok it working
[07:23] <duende> help....
[07:23] <Starminn> duende: Have you tried asking in #xubuntu.
[07:23] <duende> i have xubuntu 11.04
[07:23] <skyion> I have tried the za and gb and main mirror but seems to always bomb out on http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com natty/main
[07:23] <skyion> Herbs: tried clearing cache & different mirrors but same problem.
[07:24] <jpohl> misse-: the very first command on that page gives me "No such file or directory"
[07:24] <duende> starmoin ok
[07:24] <duende> starminn ok
[07:24] <skyion> apt-get clean && rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*
[07:25] <jack123> how to copy the location of the file
[07:25] <jack123> i can see the file
[07:25] <chaospsyX> are you seeing it in ubuntu ?
[07:25] <jack123> yes
[07:26] <jack123> team viewer works on ubuntu
[07:26] <jack123> .?
[07:26] <chaospsyX> the usb stick is read-only
[07:26] <bullgard4> jack123: Yes.
[07:26] <chaospsyX> when in live mode
[07:26] <jack123> chaos give me desktop support
[07:26] <jack123> remote desktop
[07:26] <Herbs> skion thanks, hmm not sure what youd do from this point with apt as I dont believe it has a verify option like yum
[07:27] <chaospsyX> my connection is too slow right now too do that
[07:27] <jack123> ok i guess i have to log in windows again
[07:27] <jack123> brb
[07:27] <chaospsyX> jack123: does windows have the entire disk ? the other disk that it is on
[07:27] <chaospsyX> wait
[07:27] <chaospsyX> windows have entire disk ?
[07:27] <jack123> yes 500 gb
[07:28] <chaospsyX> it has all 500gb?
[07:28] <jack123> and i am trying to install ubuntu on 160 gb
[07:28] <jack123> no its has 4 paritions 100 gb each  of 500 gb
[07:28] <traskers> I'm running Gnome Shell in 11.04, but I can't seem to get Gnome Tweak Tool to see my themes that I put in /usr/share/themes, can anyone help?
[07:28] <chaospsyX> ok reboot into windows and download md5sum and get the md5 of the ubuntu iso
[07:28] <chaospsyX> write it down
[07:28] <chaospsyX> and come back
[07:29] <chaospsyX> google md5sum program
[07:29] <marenostrum> jack123, md5summer
[07:29] <jack123> ok
[07:29] <Herbs> 4 100gb partitions why?
[07:30] <Herbs> and which are primary and which are logical whats the partition structure?
[07:30] <chaospsyX> i have temperature and weather checked but it's not showing up on the panel ?
[07:30] <amitush> someone here knows how to install edimax pci wireless card?
[07:31] <chaospsyX> Herbs, when i tried Fedora it did a LVG for partitioning,what is that?
[07:31] <amitush> cause i cant install it
[07:31] <chaospsyX> it took up the entire hd but said there was free space ?
[07:31] <chaospsyX> it is like extended parts inside a logical part?
[07:31] <amitush> i have this card: EW-7711In
[07:32] <Herbs> chaospsyX without going into details its similar to raid0
[07:33] <Herbs> but its logical
[07:33] <chaospsyX> oh
[07:34] <bullgard4> Where can I find the logs of yesterday's ubuntu-classroom lessons?
[07:34] <Rehan> could someone help me copy my ubuntu installation on a partition on my hard drive to my USB flash drive?
[07:34] <Herbs> Ive not used it much but partition resizing is more reliable
[07:35] <bullgard4> !details | Rehan
[07:35] <boomboorum> Gwibber does not load twitter messages and does not post anything.
[07:35] <boomboorum> When run from terminal I get :
[07:35] <boomboorum> ERROR:dbus.proxies:Introspect error on com.Gwibber.Messages:/com/gwibber/Messages: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name com.Gwibber.Messages was not provided by any .service files
[07:35] <boomboorum> (gwibber:3041): LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-DEBUG: Could not handle image type 6
[07:35] <boomboorum> and for  $gwibber-service -d -o
[07:35] <FloodBot1> boomboorum: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:36] <boomboorum> My gwibber does not load any messages:
[07:36] <boomboorum> http://pastebin.com/dJ20TXZv
[07:36] <miki> ciao
[07:36] <Rehan> bullgard4: I have ubuntu 11.04 installed on one 10gb partition of my laptop's hard drive along with Win7 on another partition (490gb). Grub2 is on the MBR. I would like to duplicate my 10GB ubuntu install onto my 16GB flash memory drive and make it so that I could boot from it. I'm not very skilled but am eager to learn.
[07:36] <marenostrum> Herbs, You told jack123 that  2.6.38-8-generic is an old kernel but its the same with mine. Its what for Natty for me as well. And I have a working up to date system. Did I miss something?
[07:37] <jack123> hi am back
[07:37] <boomboorum> And when I it from terminal I get  http://pastebin.com/ZLTea4EW
[07:37] <marenostrum> jack123, yess
[07:37] <Herbs> marenostrum I issed the *.*.38* I was thinking 32
[07:38] <DaHopi> http://img534.imageshack.us/f/launcheru.jpg/ "launcher" does not hide on maximized window..
[07:38] <marenostrum> jack123, What's md5sum?
[07:38] <bullgard4> boomboorum: You could purge your Gwibber and re-install without theFacebook plugin first. See if that works.
[07:39] <boomboorum> bullgard4:  not sure how to do that. What is purge?
[07:39] <Herbs> dpkg -p package
[07:39] <jack123> 7DE611B50C283C1755B4007A4FEB0379 *ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[07:39] <jack123> perfect.?
[07:40] <bullgard4> boomboorum: to purge - to completely remove (the package, using for example Synaptic). Ok?
[07:41] <boomboorum> bullgard4:   ok, thanks
[07:41] <Rehan> I have ubuntu 11.04 installed on one 10gb partition of my laptop's hard drive along with Win7 on another partition (490gb). Grub2 is on the MBR. I would like to duplicate my 10GB ubuntu install onto my 16GB flash memory drive and make it so that I could boot from it. I'm not very skilled but am eager to learn.
[07:41] <marenostrum> jack123, I'm trying to gind . If any friend has it, check. or wait some please.
[07:41] <jack123> yeah i am waiting
[07:41] <michele> ciaooo
[07:42] <chaospsyX> i'm thinking the md5 is off
[07:42] <chaospsyX> and your going to have to re-download the iso
[07:42] <michele> list
[07:42] <jack123> are you sure chaos.?
[07:43] <chaospsyX> wait, let marenostrum see what the md5 is
[07:43] <bullgard4> Rehan: Try to use System > Administration > Startup Disk Creator
[07:43] <chaospsyX> if they match
[07:43] <jack123> how to find out the original md5.?
[07:43] <Starminn> Herbs: dpkg -p <package> versus sudo apt-get purge <package>?
[07:44] <chaospsyX> there is a file
[07:44] <mk0> did anyone meet the error with ICEauthority after gnome3 installation on 11.04?
[07:44] <Herbs> starminn not to sure tbh Im used to yum and just getting used to ubuntu but Ive used debian before so would use dpkg but thats a personal preference
[07:44] <mk0> jack123, unetbootin.
[07:45] <chaospsyX> jack123:  checking now
[07:45] <mk0> better with not used usb flash or cd
[07:45] <jack123> ok
[07:45] <Rehan> bullgard4: that asks for an ISO...is there a way to do it using dd?
[07:45] <chaospsyX> jack123: they match
[07:46] <chaospsyX> what program did you use to make the usb ?
[07:46] <bullgard4> Rehan: There is. But I do not know any details.
[07:46] <Starminn> Herbs: Ah.
[07:47] <jack123> coool
[07:47] <chaospsyX> remake the usb with unetbootin jack
[07:47] <Maahes> is there a way to tell Synaptic to just download, and not install marked packages?
[07:47] <marenostrum> jack123, md5sum is correct.
[07:47] <bullgard4> Rehan: One dd command alone is not enough.
[07:47] <jack123> i used the same which stated on the ubuntu website
[07:47] <jack123> yeah thanks marenostrum
[07:47] <jack123> so whats next
[07:48] <Rehan> bullgard4: whats that mean
[07:48] <chaospsyX> remake the usb
[07:48] <chaospsyX> use unetbootin
[07:48] <jack123> ok
[07:48] <marenostrum> jack123, original here: http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/MD5SUMS
[07:48] <chaospsyX> make sure you format the usb
[07:48] <jack123> ok
[07:48] <chaospsyX> as fat32
[07:48] <mk0> jack123, use only new usb flash or cd. or you will get errors constantly.
[07:48] <jack123> usb only supports fat32
[07:49] <chaospsyX> oh,lol
[07:49] <jack123> ha ha ha
[07:49] <mk0> or good quality.
[07:49] <chaospsyX> can you burn discs jack ?
[07:49] <jack123> yes i can
[07:49] <chaospsyX> burn the iso to a cd
[07:49] <jack123> shall i burn .?
[07:49] <chaospsyX> frees up the usb too
[07:50] <chaospsyX> yeah burn it and install it
[07:50] <bullgard4> Rehan: That means that you will have to do more operations than one dd command. Because the data on an USB stick is organized differently from a hard disk partition.
[07:50] <chaospsyX> burn as a data disc
[07:50] <jack123> i burn using alochol
[07:50] <chaospsyX> ok
[07:51] <jack123> ok is there any usb which supports ntfs.?
[07:51] <marenostrum> jack123, here's also how to do it briefly: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download Look at the burn VD section
[07:51] <marenostrum> * CD
[07:52] <jack123> ok
[07:52] <chaospsyX> i've had problems with usb installations
[07:52] <bullgard4> Where can I find the logs of yesterday's ubuntu-classroom lessons?
[07:52] <BajK> hey, how can I rotate an image using bash script? I read something about jpeg tools but, so I need a specific tool for each file type? the program should be installed right away if possible
[07:52] <jack123> brb
[07:52] <chaospsyX> k
[07:52] <marenostrum> jack123, waiting. Take your time.
[07:52] <Maahes> I have had zero problems with the pendrive linux installer
[07:52] <llutz> BajK: convert from imagemagick-package can do
[07:53] <Herbs> ! elaborate | bajk
[07:53] <serif> hello good morning all
[07:53] <Maahes> BajK: imagemagick (This message has been postponed.)
[07:53] <marenostrum> Sereph, Good morning
[07:53] <foodstamp> bullgard4  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[07:53] <BajK> ah nice :)
[07:53] <BajK> thx
[07:53] <BajK> so this works with all the common file formats (jpeg and png) ?
[07:53] <marenostrum> serif, Good morning!
[07:53] <Maahes> BajK: and many more.
[07:53] <BajK> nice :)
[07:54] <serif> how can i back to old menu in unity?pls
[07:54] <lysander89> hi guys, trying to do a natty upgrade, i get an error unable to fetch binary-i386/packages.bz2 due to hash sum mismatch. Any tips?
[07:54] <Maahes> Does anyone know if synaptic can be told to do a download only, rather than install?
[07:54] <Herbs> serif log out and select ubuntu classic as desktop before you login
[07:54] <serif> ok bro tahnx alot
[07:55] <Maahes> Herbs: totally brotacular.
[07:56] <Herbs> mahees :)
[07:57] <bullgard4> foodstamp: This refers to the year 2006. What I am asking for is logs of yesterday's classes.
[07:58] <marenostrum> jack123, Are you here? Burn the CD as an ISO image; NOT data cd.
[07:58] <jack123> yeah i am there i am burning the image
[07:59] <Herbs> thigers crossed for you jack123
[07:59] <Herbs> fingers even
[07:59] <Herbs> spent to long programming lol
[08:01] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, you2ve metioned by mistake "burn as a data disc". I realized it now. Hope he reads the page I gave. ubuntu howto for tISO burning.
[08:01] <DocPlatypus> situation: box has been running 9.10 until a couple days ago, when I decided to finally upgrade to 10.04 LTS. ever since then I have had sound switching over to "dummy output" for no reason I can figure out. where to begin troubleshooting this and/or how do I get it back to my soundcard when it does?
[08:02] <marenostrum> chaospsyX, ot should obviously be NOT data BIT ISO image.
[08:02] <marenostrum> *but
[08:03] <jack123> no its not mare
[08:03] <noo> hello I was wondering what exactly is saved in the locatedb, because I know that programs like these application quick launchers use them to find the commands. I tried to write such a thingy for fun using /usr/bin and /usr/sbin as my sources for applications, but somehow there are quiet a lot of things that are not really needed to be found by this kind of an application and that aren't found by common ones.Do they search in different places o
[08:03] <noo> r do they just filter in a proper way?
[08:03] <Herbs> docplatypus please provide your kernel version , and hardware information I cant help with desktop issues but it will help those that can
[08:03] <marenostrum> jack123, Why?
[08:03] <jack123> i am burning the iso directly
[08:03] <jack123> same process which you stated
[08:03] <chaospsyX> good
[08:04] <marenostrum> jack123, OK it means you are burning as an image not as a data CD.
[08:04] <jack123> yeah i am burning it as an image at slow speed
[08:04] <DocPlatypus> Herbs: sure. kernel -- 2.6.32-31-generic, audio -- 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[08:04] <chaospsyX> yeah follow the page he pointed you to jack on burning iso
[08:04] <chaospsyX> k
[08:04] <jack123> ok burning finished
[08:04] <marenostrum> jack123, OK. Perfect.  There's such a option at first. lets guarantee.
[08:07] <jack123> ok
[08:07] <jack123> brb after the install
[08:07] <marenostrum> jack123, waiting.
[08:07] <mk0> did anyone meet the error with ICEauthority after gnome3 installation on 11.04?
[08:07] <abhinav_singh> is there any good charting tool for openoffice calc?
[08:08] <Herbs> mk0 sounds like a bug
[08:09] <marenostrum> mk0, I didn't try but for gnome3 is not an official package right now... hard to say something.
[08:14] <Browser> Good Moorning
[08:14] <freakynl> Hi, I have 2 q's. I upgraded a 10.10 server edition to 11.04, ever since /var/log/messages is empty, is that normal? Restarting rsyslogd also doesn't make entries appear (syslog etc. are being logged to)
[08:15] <freakynl> secondly, I notice my md sets get a rebuild signal (probably for scrubbing). Has anyone any idea how that gets started? Don't see much in the crontabs except a scan to check if they haven't been degraded and no settings concerning it in mdadm.conf either
[08:16] <marenostrum> Browser, Hi!
[08:16] <Herbs> freakynl it would be empty after an upgrade I think
[08:16] <Joker_99> thats one thing i hate about irc everyone in the support rooms says "google it" or speak proper english (after they dont talk for 3 hours)
[08:16] <freakynl> Herbs: it's been 4 days
[08:16] <freakynl> Joker_99: depends on the support room, or well, mostly the active people in it
[08:17] <marenostrum> Joker_99, I won't say that. :) Question?
[08:17] <Herbs> freaknyl are you running an ftp server?
[08:18] <freakynl> Herbs: vcftpd is running, (no clue why... I never added it to start automatically) but it isn't reachable (firewalled :D)
[08:19] <Herbs> freaknyl /var/log/messages would log ftp connections so soething is wrong
[08:19] <Herbs> freaknyl what happens when you ftp localhost from the box
[08:19] <bullgard4> freakynl: My /var/log/messages has been filled the last time on Mar 17, 2011. (*surprise*)
[08:20] <freakynl> bullgard4: that seems rather impossible, unless your clock is inaccurate
[08:20] <Joker_99> yeah freeakynl ive seen it in every room ive been to so far except 1
[08:20] <Herbs> freaknyl would you mind giving me the servers ip?
[08:20] <freakynl> #gentoo is usually fine, most people newer to the internet seem to prefer forums tho', I've been using irc since 1995 :)
[08:20] <bullgard4> freakynl: My clock is accurate.
[08:21] <freakynl> Herbs: err yes :) it's firewalled too as stated you won't be able to reach anything anyways
[08:21] <Joker_99> i like #nmap its pretty slow thogh
[08:21] <red> I'm using ubuntu at work and wondering if I should upgrade to Natty? Could not find much info about what kind of files\settings I should back up
[08:21] <Herbs> freaknyl so whats the server doing and I assume its serving a local network?
[08:22] <luqui> How do I tell metacity not to run.  I'm using a different window manager, and it is causing my CPU to be eaten up.
[08:22] <freakynl> Herbs: it's running a java application. it should have filled messages at boot tho', it didn't. it does get rotated
[08:22] <luqui> but if i kill it it just respawns, and there is no option for it in gnome-session-properties
[08:22] <bullgard4> red: You should not. Better wait and see if the many bugs get fixed.
[08:23] <Herbs> freaknyl what writes the logs the java app?
[08:23] <niklasfi> has anyone installed gnome3 and is not able to sudo any longer?
[08:23] <Herbs> gnome3 will not affect sudo
[08:24] <gaurav_help> how i trace the which my application is connected with net or current activity of application
[08:24] <niklasfi> Herbs: well... it does. i cannot sudo in gnome-shell but i can in tty1
[08:24] <marenostrum> red, You can upgrade. You should backup your perdonal data files if you like to be on the safe side, especially if you don't have a seperate home partition. You don't need to backup any setting as far as I know.
[08:24] <niklasfi> Herbs:*gnome-terminal
[08:24] <freakynl> no rsyslogd should write the logs, normally hits on the firewall (which is everything except 2 ports from 2 specific IPs) get logged in messages too, this no longer happens either (and dmesg is *filled* with firewall hits)
[08:24] <openbees> installed a new sound theme in ubuntu 11.04 for different warning and desktop-login and desktop-logout like sounds everything is fine except desktop-logout sound not working..i have desktop-logout sound in newly installed sound theme .....how can i fix this problem
[08:24] <Herbs> you mean gksudo?
[08:25] <gaurav_help> how i trace the which my application is connected with net or current activity of application
[08:25] <luqui> can anyone help?  how can i tell metacity not to start?
[08:25] <Joker_99> sudo -i
[08:25] <Joker_99> sudo su
[08:25] <bullgard4> openbees: Try to play that particualr file using aplay.
[08:25] <Joker_99> gksudo
[08:25] <Herbs> !elaborate gaurav_help
[08:25] <Joker_99> su
[08:25] <niklasfi> Herbs: no i mean `sudo apt-get install` for example
[08:26] <marenostrum> red, the sense of Web upgarade is having your settings on the new release automatically as far as possible.
[08:26] <Joker_99> whaat u mean nik?
[08:26] <purvesh> how to turn on advance graphic mode in ubuntu 11.04 may be it is in default normal mode after upgrading from 10.10 ?
[08:26] <Herbs> niklasfi do you get any error messages
[08:27] <niklasfi> Joker_99 i mean i open a gnome-terminal and enter my password and i get "sorry, try again" (wrong password)
[08:27] <openbees> bullgard4: ya that file is playing properly in /usr/sounds/ ...but i am getting logout sound of ubuntu sound theme
[08:27] <gaurav_help> i am using eclipse and i am updating my plugins i want 2 know from where eclipse is making connection . like netstat it shows me i want 2 see the details of that
[08:27] <Herbs> niklasfi but gnome3 should have no bearing on a shell
[08:27] <niklasfi> Joker_99: but i can log in if i press ctrl-alt-f1
[08:28] <NielsMkn> hey guys
[08:28] <niklasfi> and i can sudo there
[08:28] <freakynl> hmm /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf contains no references to /var/log/messages whatsoever, only 2 other files in there ... 20-ufw.conf and postfix.conf (no number?), none of these define /var/log/messages, has it been deprecated or am I lacking config files?
[08:28] <marenostrum> Nielsen, Hi!
[08:28] <openbees> bullgard4:  any idea?
[08:28] <NielsMkn> I'm installing ubuntu via wubi but its taking a long time at 'creating virtual disk' step
[08:28] <Lungan> Having sound trouble. The sound work at my computer when it shows the "asus" logo, but then in ubuntu no sound works? no mute, and sounds on
[08:29] <Herbs> niklasfi can you ssh to the box with the same creds?
[08:29] <boomboorum> Is there any alternative to Gwibber?
[08:29] <Joker_99> u check caps and num lock?
[08:29] <bullgard4> openbees: Then I can give only a general advice yet: Try to establish the association between the logout event and triggering that particular sound file.
[08:29] <niklasfi> Herbs: yes
[08:29] <Joker_99> and u sure u have the right pass
[08:29] <Herbs> niklasfi hmm strange
[08:29] <gaurav_help> when i am updating my eclipse plugin it always get terminated at 49 % shows me fetching error
[08:29] <openbees> bullgard4: how can i do so?
[08:29] <freakynl> can someone on 11.04 (64 bit) server send me their (pref unmodified / default) contents of /etc/rsyslog.d?
[08:29] <NielsMkn> any idea whats wrong?
[08:30] <Joker_99> oooohhhhhh nik i know exactly what your talking about
[08:30] <niklasfi> Joker_99 i tried yesterday slept a night and tried again today... and i know thte passwords are identical .
[08:30] <Joker_99> yeah it started after the update
[08:30] <bullgard4> !sound | openbees
[08:30] <Herbs> niklasfi what happens if you enter run level 3 instead of gui can you suso then?
[08:31] <varun> hi friends,i want to know how to configure conky,i just installed conky,the conky screen is black,i dont know how to use,please help
[08:31] <Joker_99> i have that bug on my server back home i havent tackeled it yet cause i had to leave town shortly after i upgraded
[08:31] <niklasfi> Herbs: how do i run level3?
[08:31] <Herbs> init3
[08:31] <Herbs> or init 3
[08:32] <Xinux> Hola!
[08:32] <mtron> varun see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/05/how-to-install-and-configure-conky.html
[08:32] <marenostrum> Xinux, hi!
[08:33] <niklasfi> Herbs: you mean select shell at the login screen?
[08:34] <niklasfi> Herbs: that works
[08:34] <Herbs> niklasfi that will probably work Im used to servers not desktops though
[08:34] <abhinav_singh> is it necessary to purge openoffice before installing libre office
[08:34] <Herbs> niklasfi looks like an ubuntu bug then
[08:35] <Herbs> or gnome3 bug but why its messing with the terminal I have no idea
[08:35] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, Not a must, for some time in the past I had both installed. But purge remove would be better not to interfere anything to Libre Office from Open Office settings or files etc.
[08:36] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, In my opinion. I'm not an expert.
[08:36] <Herbs> niklasfi probably the strat up script and when it enters lvl 5
[08:36] <niklasfi> Herbs: well it works there
[08:37] <Lungan> Got no sound in 11.04?
[08:38] <abhinav_singh> i want to try libre office first and if suits me then i will uninstall openoffice marenostrum:
[08:39] <gaurav_help> how do i trace ip address through terminal
[08:39] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, Then, do nothing to Open Office and plainly install Libre Office. After that, you may purge both and install what you like if you want a cleanly purged install.
[08:40] <aki_> hello
[08:40] <hateball> gaurav_help: What do you mean trace? mtr is a nice tool for traceroute
[08:40] <abhinav_singh> yup marenostrum
[08:41] <Stef> Hello, I get an "unable to mount cd, not authorized" error on my ltsp clients when I try to mount a cd, does anyone know how to fix this?
[08:41] <marenostrum> Lungan, I read your sound problem but can't say anything. I may advice to try it with the live CD and if works there -probably work- try to see what is different in your installation.
[08:41] <marenostrum> Lungan, Not a very sophisticated way, but sometimes works.
[08:41] <red> bullgard4: is there any info what the worst bugs are for now?
[08:41] <red> (apart from browsing the tracker)
[08:42] <purvesh> how to set Set the visual effects in ubuntu 11.04 does any one have idea ?
[08:42] <marenostrum> abhinav_singh, By the way, I can assure you that Libre Office is very very good. There's no reason to prefer Open Office. Don't afraid.
[08:43] <bullgard4> red I do not know what you refer to. I am lost.
[08:43] <BOBBY_> Hello, I want to install ubuntu as a dual boot with XP have run wubi twice, the first time I installed it on the same drive as XP but when I brought up ubuntu from the menu it said something about no root file so i tried again but gave it its own partion and I didnt even Get the menu. I uninstalled both times so what should I do now to get it working
[08:43] <red> >bullgard4| red: You should not. Better wait and see if the many bugs get fixed.
[08:43] <red> was refering to this :)
[08:44] <BOBBY_> Hello, I want to install ubuntu as a dual boot with XP have run wubi twice, the first time I installed it on the same drive as XP but when I brought up ubuntu from the menu it said something about no root file so i tried again but gave it its own partion and I didnt even Get the menu. I uninstalled both times so what should I do now to get it working
[08:44] <bullgard4> red I see. The worst bugs are in Unity. GNOME 3 is a project in progress and has many bugs as well. These 2 are the biggest culprits.
[08:44] <Joker_99> hey in one of the irc's its saying cannot paste to channel...?
[08:45] <Herbs> bobby_ sounds like wubi isnt setting the mount points I wont try to help as Ive never used it but might help someone who has
[08:45] <red> I was under the impression I could continue using Gnome 2 if Unity didnt work well for me?
[08:45] <tobapramudia> hiii people
[08:45] <bullgard4> red: Yes you can. Actually, I have done so too.
[08:45] <red> Ok good
[08:45] <marenostrum> BOBBY_, have you examine here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide
[08:45] <BOBBY_> Herbs: what does that mean
[08:45] <DirtyDawg> Joker_99: maybee your nick isnt registered?
[08:45] <BOBBY_> ill have a look
[08:46] <Herbs> bobby_ it means it doesent know what to do with the file system
[08:46] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: Don't use wubi. Install a normal dual boot by booting from the Ubuntu install CD and running the installer there.
[08:46] <BOBBY_> i cant find an option to do that
[08:47] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: Do you know how to burn a .iso file to a CD?
[08:47] <marenostrum> BOBBY_, ıs it a must to use Wubi way? can't you give a try to CD dual-boot installation if you can't solve Wubi problem?
[08:47] <BOBBY_> Yes I have made a USB Pen but when I did wubi I erased it
[08:48] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: Make another bootable flash drive with Ubuntu and boot from it to install Ubuntu to your hard drive.
[08:48] <red> Only time I've had problems installing from USB was when I checked the checbox to make it possible to save temp files on the USB stick
[08:48] <BOBBY_> But i dont want it to erase Xp
[08:48] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: There are great step by step instructions @ http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[08:48] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: It won't.
[08:48] <red> bobby_: It won't erase your XP
[08:48] <BOBBY_> Thanks
[08:48] <red> Unless you specify it to that it
[08:49] <marenostrum> Herbs, So, do you say that Wubi is something which can not be used? Weird. (I have no idea on Wubi.)
[08:49] <Jordan_U> BOBBY_: You're welcome.
[08:49] <ojii> Is there a way to replace the 'view photos' shortcut in the launcher with something else?
[08:49] <Herbs> marenostrum Ive never used wubi but I also rarely use gui apart from my desktop but would not trust anything that runs in windows
[08:50] <dijonyummy> if i install kubuntu on my 10.10 gome, how can i go back to gnome if i need to
[08:50] <ph88> i want to recover some files and i already have the byte offset ... now i want to do a raw read ... should i use dd, dd_rescue, savehd7, GNU ddrescue or dd_rhelp ??
[08:50] <dijonyummy> will it have a choice at the login screen, or more complicated than that
[08:50] <Joker_99> hey is the nick server up?
[08:51] <marenostrum> Herbs, me too :) But friends developing Wubi should konow something. Else, it would be a waste of time to develope it.
[08:51] <Herbs> marenostrum I totally agree but I have no experience with it sorr
[08:51] <Herbs> y
[08:53] <vega> dijonyummy: you can choose at login screen
[08:53] <miles__> Hello, I'm currently using the New Wave theme in Unity and the top panel has a black text on a black background, unreadable. How to fix this?
[08:54] <dijonyummy> vega: cool thanks!
[08:56] <casey> Does anyone know how to print borderless with custom sizes? Any program will work, I just want to know. I have an HP inkjet if that helps?
[08:57] <marenostrum> miles__, I'm on the default theme but I've just tried New Wave and didn't experience your problem. Maybe it helps to customize more after you switch to New Wave.
[08:58] <milen8204> what was the name of the tools for PC temperature observing ?
[08:58] <miles__> marenostrum, what do you mean by "customize more"?
[09:00] <marenostrum> miles__, Go to system settings > appearence. Choose the theme. Then there's a bullet at the bottom saying something as "customize" (mine is Turkish locale, I retranslate). From  there you can make some more settings as I can see. maybe you find something for the text colour etc.
[09:01] <Herbs> miles_ youve used windows before ?
[09:01] <casey> Does anyone know how to print borderless with custom sizes? Any program will work, I just want to know. I have an HP inkjet if that helps?
[09:02] <sdollins> Has anyone had issues with broadcom drivers after installing some recent updates?
[09:02] <sdollins> (using natty btw)
[09:02] <marenostrum> casey, I don't have a printer at the noment but what's the problen when -lets say- you try via Libre Office?
[09:02] <mgj> In 11.04, how do i change my workspace positioning? Default has a 2x2 grid, but i would much prefer a 1x4 row.
[09:02] <BrunoPE> sdollins, broadcom not but atheros yes
[09:03] <casey> marenostrum: the problem is I have a custom jpeg that I would like to print out. However, no matter what program I use, it always makes a border.
[09:03] <robin0800> casey,  you should find that in printer properties if your printer supports this
[09:03] <sdollins> Odd. It just completely screwed up earlier. I disabled them and after about 10 reboots it appears to be using the built in drivers without issue. BrunoPE.
[09:03] <Herbs> mgj right click preferences?
[09:03] <gartral> how come the ubuntu repos are feeding sooo slowly?
[09:03] <marenostrum> casey, hmmm. You say jpeg. I don't know that.
[09:03] <casey> robin0800: it's a 5.5 by 8.5 jpeg lol. Not very likely. I have looked there though.
[09:03] <mgj> herb, right click what?
[09:04] <casey> marenostrum: jpeg is an image filetype.
[09:04] <Herbs> gatral Ive noticed the gb repos are really slow try the main repos they max out for me
[09:04] <casey> marenostrum: I'm basically saying I have a picture that is a custom size.
[09:04] <gartral> !jpeg
[09:04] <robin0800> casey, have you been able to do this before?
[09:04] <miles__> marenostrum, that was a nice idea, however it doesn't seem to work either (and the theme has all its default colors)
[09:04] <Herbs> mgj the workspace
[09:04] <casey> robin0800: On windows I was able to, so I know my printer has the capability.
[09:04] <BrunoPE> sdollins, wait
[09:04] <bgoldsmith> greetings channel, I cannot create a file in a directory that has group write permissions for a group I belong to :-(
[09:04] <gartral> Herbs: how do i switch?
[09:05] <sdollins> BrunoPE: Probably unrelated but after installing some recent updates, my screen stays dim no matter what now :/
[09:05] <Herbs> system > administration software sources select main repos from drop down thats the quickest way
[09:06] <marenostrum> casey, have a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=398506 Maybe not exactly the topic you want but it seems related and you can modify the solution to your needs.
[09:06] <sdollins> Okay uhhh I just noticed the battery/power thing in the indicator applets has disappeared :/
[09:06] <casey> marenostrum: let me give it a go. thanks for trying.
[09:07] <mgj> herbs, im sorry, i dont understand you. If i right click the actual workspace, i can change my wallpaper - thats about it. I want to modify the amount of workspaces i have and/or the ordering/layout of them
[09:07] <casey> marenostrum: I've actually already tried f-spot. Thanks for looking though
[09:07] <robin0800> casey, well I've just checked it is printer properties and it is the in the media size
[09:07] <casey> robin0800: let me take a look.
[09:07] <Herbs> mgj no the workspace section in th bottom right psnel
[09:07] <marenostrum> miles__, Are you on Natty? Was it a fresh install or do you have some older settings in your system?
[09:07] <mgj> Herbs, the bottom right panel does not exist in 11.04
[09:08] <bgoldsmith> drwxrwxr-x   6 root   webdev  4096 2011-05-03 10:59 srv    (these are the permissions for the /srv directory. I belong to the webdev group, but cannot create anything in the directory)
[09:08] <Herbs> mgj sorry Ive never used 11.04 or unity
[09:08] <mgj> ok, thanks anyway
[09:08] <gartral> [ot] 4:04.. time not found!
[09:08] <casey> robin0800: I have actually found this selection already. But have you found a way to actually put in values. All I can choose is custom and that is the extent of it :(.
[09:08] <marenostrum> casey, You're welcome. Those guys say that they do something to print borderless but I didn't do such a thing. Good luck.
[09:09] <Herbs> bgoldsmith its because root owns it
[09:09] <llutz> bgoldsmith: "id" as actual user lists webdev?
[09:09] <miles__> marenostrum, Natty, kept my /home partition from 10.04
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[09:09] <bgoldsmith> so if root owns a directory, the group permissions don't apply?
[09:10] <Herbs> bgoldsmith depens on the groups permissions
[09:10] <gartral> Herbs: even Main is feeding slowly, but faster than US
[09:10] <robin0800> casey mine has a whole selection with borderless in brackets beside them, but it does depend on the driver
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[09:10] <casey> robin0800: dang. Any other ideas up your sleeve?
[09:10] <gartral> !ops | hyu
[09:11] <robin0800> casey, what driver are you using?
[09:11] <marenostrum> miles__, Can home has something to do with those settings? Maybe. What if you add a new user. And choose that theme for that user. I'm saying this because I don't experience the problem with that theme.
[09:11] <casey> robin0800: not sure. But I have an HP printer so definitely and HP lol.
[09:11] <marenostrum> miles__, Mine is a fresh install.
[09:12] <gartral> jussi: thank you
[09:12] <DocPlatypus> situation: box has been running 9.10 until a couple days ago, when I decided to finally upgrade to 10.04 LTS. ever since then I have had sound switching over to "dummy output" for no reason I can figure out. where to begin troubleshooting this and/or how do I get it back to my soundcard when it does? kernel -- 2.6.32-31-generic, audio -- 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller (rev
[09:12] <DocPlatypus> 02)
[09:12] <SuperLag> meganerd: you around?
[09:12] <bgoldsmith> llutz: id as actual user does not list webdev, but "groups" as actual user does.
[09:12] <llutz> bgoldsmith: logoff and relogin
[09:12] <tasslehoff> Any way to get gmail notifications from the indicator applet?
[09:12] <mgj> In 11.04, how do i change my workspace positioning? Default has a 2x2 grid, but i would much prefer a 1x4 row. As the bottom panel is removed in 11.04, i cannot find anywhere to change this
[09:12] <marenostrum> miles__, Can there be a hidden directory in /hme for personal preferences, from the past? Maybe deleting them?
[09:12] <robin0800> casey, have you got the best driver? hp should be well supported
[09:13] <gartral> DocPlatypus: I had the same problem with my intel audio chips.
[09:13] <casey> robin0800: how could I check?
[09:13] <robin0800> casey in printer properties
[09:13] <DocPlatypus> gartral: what'd you do to fix it or work around it?
[09:13] <Herbs> lutz reloging wont make a diff
[09:13] <Herbs> the dir is owened by root
[09:13] <casey> robin0800: ok so should it match my printer you're saying?
[09:13] <llutz> bgoldsmith: how did you add yourself to the webdev-group?
[09:14] <gartral> mgj: the fastes way would too be logout, click yor name, change the dropdown menu at the bottom too "Ubuntu Classic" log in and you have panels!
[09:14] <Herbs> this isnt desktop ubuntu
[09:14] <robin0800> casey yes and if you can't try hp's site
[09:14] <llutz> Herbs: the group has write-permissions, so what?
[09:14] <sdollins> I swear to $deity, I am going to scream. :( Everytime I reboot something else breaks lol..
[09:15] <Herbs> bgoldsmith if you want ownership log in as rott and chown user:user dir
[09:15] <quiescens> they don't want ownership
[09:15] <llutz> Herbs: read this again <bgoldsmith> drwxrwxr-x   6 root   webdev  4096 2011-05-03 10:59 srv
[09:15] <quiescens> they want the group to be able to write to it, which it should if they are properly in the group
[09:15] <Herbs> llutz and that would depend on the group permissions
[09:15] <casey> robin0800: I'm trying right now :).
[09:15] <mgj> gartral, heh, but i cannot do that when 11.10 comes out, i should probably learn how to do it with unity too =)
[09:16] <marenostrum> sdollins, What's broken lastly?
[09:16] <llutz> Herbs: do you need further explanation of that line? owner root, group webdev WITH write-perm
[09:16] <Herbs> llutz no but I think you do
[09:16] <casey> robin0800: I found a CUPS version which seems to be much better. However, I don't quite see the use of their "custom" sizes. Like in the other one.
[09:17] <sdollins> Well, wifi randomly decides to work, this time i have no borders around windows ( can't remember the technical name)
[09:17] <sdollins> Everything went to hell after I installed some updates earlier.
[09:17] <robin0800> casey, as long as you can select borderless does it matter?
[09:17] <SuperLag> Anyone here ever set up an Ubuntu box as a wireless access point?
[09:17] <bgoldsmith> llutz: thanks! logging off and logging back in solved the problem. I can now write to the directory
[09:18] <SuperLag> I know meganerd has, but he's not around - it seems.
[09:18] <llutz> bgoldsmith: you always have to relogin after changing your groups to make the change active
[09:18] <casey> robin0800: Well I don't have to many borderless options. And the major problem is it's an akward size: 5.5" x 8.5"
[09:18] <sdollins> Woo! It's all working now. - reboot.
[09:18] <marenostrum> sdollins, On maverick on on Natty? (beginning of the mess)
[09:18] <gartral> mgj: the fastes way would too be logout, click yor name, change the dropdown menu at the bottom too "Ubuntu Classic" log in and you have panels!
[09:19] <robin0800> casey, do hp have linux drivers for your printer?
[09:19] <mathews> any video converter to suggest to make mp4 for Nokia E71
[09:19] <mgj> gartral, thats cheating
[09:19] <pennnn> hi
[09:19] <sdollins> I was on maverick, I upgraded to natty a couple days ago it went to hell but started working right after a fight, and after some updates today it's even worse.
[09:19] <pennnn> wquestion
[09:19] <marenostrum> sdollins, ıs it OK now? After reboot?
[09:19] <casey> robin0800: I believe I did download an hp version when you pointed that out early. It comes from CUPS.
[09:19] <SuperLag> sdollins: good to know. I was thinking of upgrading my Maverick system to Natty. Now I'll wait. :)
[09:19] <pennnn> question
[09:20] <Liera> How do I clear the most recently used program list in unity?
[09:20] <Al_nz1> is there a way when doing a lot of copy n pasting to say, use F1-F10 to assign multiple clip boards which F1 - F10 paste data?
[09:20] <gartral> mgj: not really.. considering that Unity doesn't have any facilities too change the number/layout of workspaces
[09:20] <sdollins> Nope marenostrum
[09:20] <casey> robin0800: One thing that is driving me nuts is that f-spot shows major potential for working, however it always crashes when I try to print. Any ideas on that?
[09:20] <sdollins> I rebooted and wifi doesn't work lol
[09:20] <bgoldsmith> llutz: hmmm what are the data structures/files that get updated on reboot?
[09:20] <sdollins> It doesn't seem to matter if the proprietary broadcom drivers are enabled or not, it just randomly decides to work.
[09:20] <llutz> bgoldsmith: its the login shell reading the new environment
[09:20] <mgj> gartral, really ?! are you sure there is no such facility?
[09:21] <Herbs> sdollins reboot your router first before wasting time
[09:21] <robin0800> casey, in job options I've got scale to fit
[09:21] <sdollins> My router works fine.
[09:21] <sdollins> I've already tested it.
[09:21] <gartral> mgj: Unity is QUITE limited when compared too Gnome
[09:21] <marenostrum> sdollins, I have a report from my brother-in-law. he's on Maverick and says that wireless is broken. It interrupts randomly. I'll go and see. Your sitiation sounded similar.
[09:21] <pennnn> question
[09:21] <casey> robin0800: I see that as well. Unfortunately no luck with that so far.
[09:21] <pennnn> question
[09:21] <bgoldsmith> llutz: are the groups that a user belong to a part of the environment?
[09:21] <Herbs> by not connecting to the internet?
[09:21] <mgj> My god, that is beyond retarded. Remind me again why this change to unity was a great idea?
[09:21] <pennnn> i dont lilke unity, what alterantives are there
[09:21] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: with regards to group membership, its not rebooting as such, but your group membership is read when login first applies your user, and then every process from there on inherits those groups
[09:22] <sdollins> pennnn: KDE, Xfce, etc.
[09:22] <gartral> pennnn: logout, click name, dropdown box at the bottom can be changed too Ubuntu Classic. I use that
[09:22] <pennnn> sdollns: cant i go on usinggnome 2 !! in 11.10 ?
[09:22] <llutz> bgoldsmith: kind of, all those settings were read when you login.
[09:22] <sdollins> pennnn: they're removing the classic desktop in 11.10
[09:22] <mathews> pennnn: u can select ubuntu cliassic from login window
[09:22] <gartral> pennnn: read my instructions
[09:23] <Liera> Can anyone show me how to clear recently used program in the list in unity? like Clear Recently Items in gnome!
[09:23] <marenostrum> pennnn, And of course, there's "ubuntu Classical" interface which is mainly Gnome2 interface. Its already installed. You can chose it from login screen.
[09:23] <gartral> sdollins: they can remove from the pre-installed envirnment, but I will never give up my gnome!
[09:23] <llutz> bgoldsmith: tbh, i can't explain that in details off hand.
[09:23] <robin0800> gar
[09:24] <casey> robin0800: gar?
[09:24] <sdollins> gartral: I feel the same way. I don't like GNOME-Shell, Unity, KDE, or any other the others I've tried. At this point, I'm about ready to cough up cash for a macbook pro lol.
[09:24] <daxroc> Any one here using an nvidia quadro (nvs 295) or like with a dual monitor setup on 11.04 ?
[09:24] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:24] <jiltdil> which is better unity or gnome?
[09:24] <sdollins> marenostrum: any luck with that?
[09:24] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:24] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:24] <robin0800> gartral, unity 3d and unity 2d in 11.10
[09:24] <mathews> any video converter  to make mp4 for Nokia E71
[09:24] <Herbs> bgoldsmith lets just say the perms on that box are to lax
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[09:24] <FloodBot1> haoron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:24] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:24] <sdollins> I reboot over and over. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. ._.
[09:24] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:24] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:25] <bgoldsmith> llutz,quiescens: hmm ... so the groups command just reads the /etc/groups file.
[09:25] <Herbs> I wouldnt let your group have permission changes
[09:25] <marenostrum> sdollins, He doesn't know GNU/Linux well. I should pay a visit. I don't know what is broken.
[09:25] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:25] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:25] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:25] <bgoldsmith> herbs: so what would be a good setting for /srv/
[09:25] <llutz> bgoldsmith: yes but it won't check if those entries are active. "id" does
[09:25] <jiltdil> pennn:please stop repeating
[09:25] <robin0800> pennnn, yes
[09:25] <sdollins> I really regret upgrading to natty :/
[09:25] <Herbs> root:root
[09:25] <pennnn> can i install it
[09:25] <casey> robin0800: any other ideas?
[09:25] <sdollins> my SO talked me into it really.
[09:25] <pennnn> they REMOVE it
[09:26] <gartral> sdollins: why?
[09:26] <sdollins> pennnn: I imagine someone will provide a way to put gnome2 back.
[09:26] <sdollins> gartral: everything keeps breaking!
[09:26] <mathews> pennnn: dont worry, u can still install gnome by PPA
[09:26] <robin0800> casey, hp site linux support?
[09:26] <pennnn> cool
[09:26] <bgoldsmith> herbs: what if the webdev group wants to add a new website inside /srv (webdev = webadmin group)
[09:26] <casey> robin0800: Alright thanks for your help.
[09:26] <OerHeks> pennnn no they don't. logout, select your name, then language and GDM selection will appear
[09:26] <marenostrum> pennnn, Wer'll find a solution. :) We have time for 11.10. For now, we have Classic at hand. No problem. :)
[09:26] <gartral> sdollins: i haven't noticed any breakage, but then again, i did a clean install.
[09:26] <pennnn> ok
[09:26] <pennnn> thanks
[09:26] <duende> hi
[09:26] <Herbs> so what does webdav need to do?
[09:27] <sdollins> I don't have time to do a clean install really but it looks like I have no other choice.
[09:27] <quiescens> bgoldsmith: no, the groups command lists the groups that the process is in (which should be whatever it inherits from the shell or whatever you used to run it)
[09:27] <daxroc> I'm not impresed with natty, It's very primitive for a mainstream release
[09:27] <herol3oy> I just downloaded "ubuntu-11.04-alternate-i386.iso" to upgrade my ubuntu10.10 without any downloading, but when I mounted it and typed "gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade", it wanted to connect to internet and download all the packages again? how can I upgrade my ubuntu10.10 to 11.4 without any downloading?
[09:27] <duende> some have a problem in 11.04 with video and VIA ?? reboot X
[09:27] <gartral> granted, the Natty are SLOOOOOW right now 'cause all the upgrades
[09:27] <pennnn> but is better to the another desktop environment
[09:27] <pennnn> because ppa arent so good
[09:28] <sdollins> How did a bug like being unable to rearrange the windows in the windows list applet not get fixed?
[09:28] <pennnn> but is better to the another desktop environment
[09:28] <gartral> daxroc: why do you say that?
[09:28] <pennnn> because ppa are not so good
[09:28] <marenostrum> sdollins, Try to figure out the problem and bug report if you can do. But, clean install is the solution, of course. :)
[09:28] <sdollins> It was reported in early January according to launchpad.
[09:28] <bgoldsmith> quiescens:  the "id" command did not show the group change before re-login, but the "groups" command did
[09:28] <Herbs> sdollins because its a minor bug
[09:28] <herol3oy> no idea?
[09:28] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:28] <bgoldsmith> herbs: the webdev group needs to be able to create directories inside /srv
[09:28] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:28] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:28] <sdollins> Minor or not, i would consider it to be important functionality.
[09:29] <herol3oy> still no answer?
[09:29] <gartral> pennnn: that's a whole 6 months away.
[09:29] <marenostrum> sdollins, Which one? wireless thing? Can you supply me with the address?
[09:29] <pennnn> is it better to change
[09:29] <Herbs> so make owenership of w/srv webdav:webdav
[09:29] <sdollins> The issue with the window list.
[09:29] <xs3ns3> so what we use instead of unity, since my laptop says does not support unity?
[09:29] <pennnn> to kde
[09:29] <sdollins> I haven't found anything in relation to the wireless issue.
[09:29] <dijonyummy> i think i may try 11.04 in a month with gnome classic, then when 11.10 comes around not sure maybe go to kde, or other distro
[09:29] <herol3oy> I just downloaded "ubuntu-11.04-alternate-i386.iso" to upgrade my ubuntu10.10 without any downloading, but when I mounted it and typed "gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade", it wanted to connect to internet and download all the packages again? how can I upgrade my ubuntu10.10 to 11.4 without any downloading?
[09:29] <pennnn> they REMOVE !!
[09:29] <pennnn> gnome classic
[09:29] <marenostrum> sdollins, I see.
[09:29] <pennnn> from 11.10
[09:29] <Starminn> pennnn: That is a personal choice which you must make yourself. Try it out and see if you like it. Also, that is off-topic for here.
[09:29] <pennnn> is it better to change
[09:29] <sdollins> It didn't start until updates I installed today and I had just updated like 1 day ago I suspect it's not out there.
[09:29] <FloodBot1> pennnn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:30] <pennnn> PPAs are incompatible