[15:25] <thecondor> hello!
[15:26] <thecondor> I'm from the Ubuntu German Translators team and I have a question..
[15:28] <thecondor> ..while checking the german translations in »ubuntu-docs-newtoubuntu« and »ubuntu-docs-windows« in the maverick source package in launchpad, I noticed that »F-Spot«-related information is still in there - despite the fact that »Shotwell« is the replacement for F-Spot in maverick.
[15:31] <thecondor> I maybe edited those strings in the german translation in launchpad too early. Is there an update for the english ubuntu documentation coming soon, replacing occurences of F-Spot with Shotwell, that I should have waited for?


[00:01] <jenders> hi folks
[00:01] <jenders> in the preseeding line, "d-i mirror/suite string ____"
[00:01] <jenders> is it possible to track a specific point release instead of a codename
[00:02] <jenders> it seems as if we're getting version drift in our deployments and I'm trying to track it down
[00:02] <jenders> I'm wondering if perhaps after debootstrap an update is performed
[00:02] <jenders> and since we're tracking more or less 'stable' we're getting packages that are not in the snapshot of the latest LTS
[00:02] <jenders> is this a valid theory?
[00:03] <jenders> I should note, we also have, 'd-i pkgsel/update-policy select none
[00:03] <jenders> so that we can manually vett security updates
[00:04] <jenders> I also notice this option: d-i pkgsel/upgrade select none
[00:05] <jenders> guidance much appreciated
[00:15] <cjwatson> jenders: I'm afraid the archive infrastructure doesn't make it possible to pin to a point release at the moment
[00:16] <jenders> oh no
[00:16] <cjwatson> the only way to do that is to take a mirror snapshot at the appropriate time
[00:16] <jenders> is this because of old-release.archive.... etc
[00:16] <cjwatson> no
[00:16] <cjwatson> it's because Launchpad doesn't have any database model of which packages went into the point release
[00:16] <jenders> ah
[00:16] <jenders> well crap
[00:16] <cjwatson> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/701595
[00:16] <jenders> heh
[00:16] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 701595 in launchpad "representation of Ubuntu point releases" [Low,Triaged]
[00:17] <cjwatson> I think those people with burning needs for this sometimes work around the problem by using the released DVD image as a quasi-mirror
[00:17] <cjwatson> it's not a great answer but it can help
[00:17] <jenders> could this be faked by pointing preseeding at a full mirror
[00:17] <jenders> oh i see
[00:49] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5195 trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
[00:49] <CIA-70> ubiquity: Restore old fallback code in case /cdrom/casper/filesystem.size doesn't
[00:49] <CIA-70> ubiquity: exist (LP: #557388).
[01:19] <jenders> cjwatson: does the following mechanism for gating updates sound about right:
[01:19] <jenders> You need to create a full mirror of the repository at a given point in time. Aim /etc/apt/sources.list for all hosts at this mirror and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade on each host. To perform updates you would need to update the full mirror while keeping a backup of previous versions in the mirror, probably with rsync without --delete. The repo metadata would probably also need to be updated to include both new and older ver
[01:19] <jenders> and then pinning could be done either at the host level or by removing a .deb from the repo?
[01:20] <cjwatson> rsync without --delete - not enough if you want clients to be able to stick at older point releases, you'd need to create new dists/ trees
[01:21] <cjwatson> ah, maybe that's part of what got cut off by the IRC line length limit
[01:21] <jenders> http://pastebin.com/5Tq6L7Ns
[01:22] <jenders> without creating new dists, I could pin at the host level, yea?
[01:22] <jenders> (or remove the package from the repo and regen the metadata)
[01:22] <cjwatson> I guess ... it's going to be a chunk of work, consider *why* you need to pin at point releases
[01:22] <jenders> because my coworkers don't trust security updates not to break existing infrastructure
[01:23] <cjwatson> then they shouldn't trust point releases either
[01:23] <jenders> and want to vett each and every package -_-
[01:23] <cjwatson> the only significance of the point releases is really that we spin new images
[01:23] <cjwatson> there isn't significant extra QA for them over and above what's already done for any stable update
[01:23] <jenders> I guess point release is misnomer, it's really just trusting the upstream repo at any given time
[01:24] <cjwatson> I can't really advise you on pinning, it's not one of my strong points
[01:24] <jenders> and being able to gain control over updates
[01:24] <cjwatson> for some reason I've never been able to fit apt pinning into my head
[01:25] <jenders> you and me both, i use Priority: 1001 to pin packages
[01:25] <cjwatson> sounds like you sort of want to build something a bit like snapshot.debian.org where you get a snapshot dist for every mirror pulse
[01:25] <cjwatson> good luck ;-)
[01:25] <jenders> ha
[01:26] <jenders> my coworkers are pushing for centos, although I'm unsure if it offers this feature set
[01:26] <jenders> I'd rather ust stick with Ubuntu or Debian proper
[01:27] <jenders> but then we still have to wrangle partman-auto/expert_recipe's ;)
[01:29] <cjwatson> it's clearly (to me) possible with the Debian-format archive structure, but requires a reasonably smart mirror
[01:29] <cjwatson> there is something called "debmarshal" that purports to offer this
[01:29] <cjwatson> http://code.google.com/p/debmarshal/wiki/DebmarshalRepositoryMirrorSetup
[01:29] <cjwatson> sounds pretty close to what you're asking for
[01:30] <jenders> interesting
[01:30] <jenders> I'll investigate
[01:30] <cjwatson> I've not used it, that's just from a bit of searching
[01:54] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5196 trunk/gui/gtk/stepKeyboardConf.ui: Sync up deduce_layout button description in glade file with debconf template.
[02:47] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5197 trunk/ (7 files in 4 dirs): Fix some more uses of deprecated python-apt APIs.
[03:05] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5198 trunk/ (bin/ubiquity-dm debian/changelog): ubiquity-dm: Try openbox after openbox-lubuntu (LP: #888107).
[03:37] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5199 trunk/ (77 files in 3 dirs): Thomson SA is now called Technicolor SA (LP: #856992).
[09:18] <damo22> hi im trying to create another livecd with sshd enabled by default, im having trouble using UCK to acheive this, i get error messages like "(initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live filesystem"
[11:22] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5200 trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Limit maximum length of username editing widgets to 32 (LP: #831319).
[11:27] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5201 trunk/ubiquity/tz.py: whitespace
[12:22] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5202 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-timezone.py):
[12:22] <CIA-70> ubiquity: UTF-8-encode the syslog message when a geoname lookup fails, since it
[12:22] <CIA-70> ubiquity: might include non-ASCII characters entered by the user (LP: #928891).
[14:06] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5203 trunk/ (debian/changelog debian/rules tests/run):
[14:06] <CIA-70> ubiquity: Run test suite under xvfb-run by default when running it from the
[14:06] <CIA-70> ubiquity: command line. 'tests/run --no-xvfb' inhibits this behaviour for cases
[14:06] <CIA-70> ubiquity: where it's useful to see the UIs constructed by the test suite.
[14:25] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5204 trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs):
[14:25] <CIA-70> ubiquity: Stop manually inserting newlines in hostname and username errors. GTK+
[14:25] <CIA-70> ubiquity: 3 seems to do a reasonable job of wrapping these by itself now.
[14:25] <cjwatson> ev: ^- joy
[14:25] <cjwatson> Well, ish.  There's still a vertical alignment problem, but I think that's separate ...
[14:26] <cjwatson> oh, hmm, you were specifically trying to avoid growing and shrinking ... /me looks into this some more
[14:26] <cjwatson> need to sort out translating those strings and this is a prereq, though.
[14:28] <cjwatson> maybe a computed-once slightly larger allocation for {host,user}name_error would do it.
[14:28] <ev> yeah, making that page not jump all over the place as soon as things start appearing and disappearing has proven to be a bit tricky
[14:31] <cjwatson> there's some bug in the layout of username_error that doesn't apply to hostname_error - it's getting a massive vertical allocation as soon as it appears
[14:31] <cjwatson> but the fact that it's different for those two widgets suggests it's a bug in our layout
[14:38] <cjwatson> maybe it just needs a vertical box around it and expand="False"
[14:38] <cjwatson> wonder if I can get the test suite to expose this somehow
[16:04] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5205 trunk/ubiquity/plugins/ubi-usersetup.py: Adjust how ubiquity.misc functions are looked up to make mocking easier.
[16:33] <cjwatson> ev: well, I have a failing test now at least, and FWIW reverting to the manually inserted newlines doesn't make a lot of difference - so I'm going to leave that patch in place
[16:34] <ev> hm, actually
[16:34] <ev> just a thought, but maybe it's worth us using a GtkFixed here
[16:34] <cjwatson> possibly, though I think we could do the same by setting allocations manually?
[16:34] <cjwatson> but yeah, it's a backstop I guess
[16:34] <ev> true
[16:36] <CIA-70> ubiquity: cjwatson * r5206 trunk/ (tests/test_gtkui.py ubiquity/frontend/gtk_ui.py): Move addition of network_change watch to customize_installer, so that there's one fewer thing to mock out in tests.
[16:37] <cjwatson> my current test is http://paste.ubuntu.com/844599/ (with the actual assertions deliberately removed for inspection purposes but they should be fairly obvious)
[23:54] <CIA-70> ubiquity: superm1 * r5207 ubiquity/ (bin/ubiquity-dm debian/changelog):
[23:54] <CIA-70> ubiquity: Have two separate failsafe attempts for 'fbdev' and 'vesa'. It's
[23:54] <CIA-70> ubiquity: possible that /dev/fb0 will exist but be backed by a VGA framebuffer
[23:54] <CIA-70> ubiquity: causing X to exit non-zero.


[20:33] <alo21> hi ALL
[20:33] <alo21> sorry for the caps lock
[20:34] <alo21> I have an icon which fit perfectly in the launcher, but it is too much big in the dash, and the size is 64x64. Why?


[00:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libblockdev [riscv64] (mantic-proposed/main) [3.0.2-3] (core, i386-whitelist)
[00:35] <vorlon> um.  what's going on with the 'bolt' binary package name? LocutusOfBorg ?
[00:37] <vorlon> it looks like an uncoordinated takeover of an existing binary package name
[00:38] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: and that's going to break image builds, so I'm nuking the llvm-defaults bolt binary package from mantic to restore the other one
[01:32] <mwhudson> vorlon: oh this is why the livecd-rootfs autopkgtest is now failing in release huh
[03:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: openldap (jammy-proposed/main) [2.5.15+dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 2.5.16+dfsg-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[05:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libplacebo [amd64] (mantic-proposed/universe) [6.292.0-2] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[05:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libplacebo [s390x] (mantic-proposed/universe) [6.292.0-2] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[05:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libplacebo [i386] (mantic-proposed/universe) [6.292.0-2] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libplacebo [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed/universe) [6.292.0-2] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[05:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libplacebo [armhf] (mantic-proposed/universe) [6.292.0-2] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[05:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libplacebo [arm64] (mantic-proposed/universe) [6.292.0-2] (i386-whitelist, kubuntu)
[05:33] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, let me speak with sylvestre
[06:17] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, llvm-defaults 0.57~exp2ubuntu1 drops it
[06:17] <LocutusOfBorg> please nbs cleanup if needed
[06:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libblockdev [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [3.0.2-3]
[06:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libblockdev [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [3.0.2-3]
[06:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libblockdev [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [3.0.2-3]
[06:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libblockdev [s390x] (mantic-proposed) [3.0.2-3]
[06:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libblockdev [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [3.0.2-3]
[06:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libblockdev [riscv64] (mantic-proposed) [3.0.2-3]
[06:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libblockdev [i386] (mantic-proposed) [3.0.2-3]
[06:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libplacebo [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [6.292.0-2]
[06:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libplacebo [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [6.292.0-2]
[06:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libplacebo [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [6.292.0-2]
[06:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libplacebo [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [6.292.0-2]
[06:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libplacebo [s390x] (mantic-proposed) [6.292.0-2]
[06:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted libplacebo [i386] (mantic-proposed) [6.292.0-2]
[08:47] <ricotz> hello SRU team, please accept libreoffice 4:7.5.5-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> into lunar-updates
[10:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dkms (lunar-proposed/main) [3.0.10-7ubuntu2 => 3.0.10-7ubuntu2.1] (i386-whitelist, ubuntu-desktop)
[11:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python3-defaults (jammy-security/main) [3.10.6-1~22.04 => 3.10.6-1~22.04] (core, i386-whitelist) (sync)
[12:13] <kanashiro[m]> RAOF (he/they): hi o/ if you have time today could you please try to release the packages related to the container stack SRUs? Everything is green in the pending SRU page. The related bugs are LP #2023694, #2028405 and #2022390 . TIA!
[12:13] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2023694 in golang-1.20 (Ubuntu Jammy) "Backport container stack from Mantic" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2023694
[12:13] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2022390 in docker.io-app (Ubuntu Lunar) "Keep the -dev binary package in sync with Debian" [Undecided, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2022390
[12:13] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2028405 in opengcs (Ubuntu Focal) "Fix FTBFS against runc 1.1.7" [Undecided, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2028405
[13:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python3-defaults (jammy-security/main) [3.10.6-1~22.04 => 3.10.6-1~22.04] (core, i386-whitelist) (sync)
[13:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python3-defaults [sync] (jammy-security) [3.10.6-1~22.04]
[13:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected python3-defaults [sync] (jammy-security) [3.10.6-1~22.04]
[17:48] <teward> release and SRU team:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/distro-info/+bug/2029089 needs review because it's a beyond-end-of-standard-support out-of-band update/sru request, it was my understanding once a release enters ESM that Pro/ESM is the updates path and not standard -updates pocket?
[17:48] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2029089 in distro-info (Ubuntu) "Please backport UbuntuDistroInfo().get_all(result='object') to Xenial" [Undecided, Incomplete]
[17:49] <teward> also cc the foundations team ^^
[18:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (lunar-proposed/main) [23.2.1-0ubuntu0~23.04.1 => 23.2.2-0ubuntu0~23.04.1] (core, ubuntu-cloud)
[18:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (jammy-proposed/main) [23.2.1-0ubuntu0~22.04.1 => 23.2.2-0ubuntu0~22.04.1] (core, ubuntu-cloud)
[18:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cloud-init (focal-proposed/main) [23.2.1-0ubuntu0~20.04.2 => 23.2.2-0ubuntu0~20.04.1] (core, edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud)
[19:00] <falcojr> RAOF: cloud-init SRU uploads have been queued for F, J, and L for a cloud-init hotfix due to #2028562 and #2028784 . Can you review them so we can get them into proposed?
[21:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: net-snmp (focal-proposed/main) [5.8+dfsg-2ubuntu2.8 => 5.8+dfsg-2ubuntu2.9] (desktop-core, i386-whitelist, ubuntu-server)
[21:53] <ahasenack> do we need package removal bugs in ubuntu for packages that have been removed in debian already? I forget
[21:53] <ahasenack> looks like not: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration?#Removals_in_Debian
[21:54] <ahasenack> in any case, it's src:volatildap, if an AA could confirm that it will eventually be gone in ubuntu (debian removal: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1041313)
[21:54] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1041313 in ftp.debian.org "RM: volatildap -- ROM; Not maintained anymore, no reverse deps" [Normal, Open]
[21:54] <ahasenack> oh, that happened just a few days ago, ok, I should give it more time
[22:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: clamav [amd64] (mantic-proposed/main) [1.0.1+dfsg-2ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[22:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: clamav [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed/main) [1.0.1+dfsg-2ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[22:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: clamav [s390x] (mantic-proposed/main) [1.0.1+dfsg-2ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[22:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: clamav [arm64] (mantic-proposed/main) [1.0.1+dfsg-2ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[23:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: clamav [riscv64] (mantic-proposed/main) [1.0.1+dfsg-2ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)


[00:42] <duffydack> apart from the pc "customise everything" part..
[00:44] <rickspencer3> CardinalFang, hi
[00:45] <rickspencer3> so I just booted my netbook while on the road
[00:45] <rickspencer3> desktopcouch and gwibber worked perfectly :/
[00:45] <CardinalFang> hi.
[00:45] <CardinalFang> Dang.
[00:45] <CardinalFang> Er, "yay".
[00:45] <rickspencer3> little of both
[00:45] <rickspencer3> ;)
[01:20] <rickspencer3> CardinalFang, I did do a dist-upgrade before I left the house
[01:28] <CardinalFang> rickspencer3, Hrm.  There's /var/log/apt/somethingOrOther to check.  I'm also interested in how likely it is that the problem is gone.  How many times did you try it?  How often did it happen before?  Insert Bayesian voodoo here.
[01:28] <umarux> What could be causing the problem "ubuntuone.SyncDaemon - WARNING - Files synchronization is disabled."
[01:29] <rickspencer3> CardinalFang, I would say there is a chance that it is gone
[01:29] <rickspencer3> ;)
[01:34] <CardinalFang> rickspencer3, I hear that libgnomekeyring also fixed the code that caused all the threading/glib problem in d-c and gwibber and c.  Le sigh.
[01:36] <rickspencer3> lol
[01:36] <rickspencer3> fuuuuuuuuuu
[03:08] <jblount> Hmm. What if I don't want sd to be working on metadata? Can I say "stop working on metadata fool, upload this file for me" ?
[03:09] <duanedesign> :)
[03:10]  * jblount was a bit impatient, syncdaemon is IDLE now.
[03:10] <duanedesign> jblount: is the file uploaded?
[05:57] <jussi> honk
[05:57] <jussi> anyone about?
[14:19] <duanedesign> jblount: like the rocking cat screencast
[14:19] <jblount> duanedesign: :)
[14:26] <duanedesign> jblount: /31
[14:26] <duanedesign> oops!
[14:49] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello Everyone.  Is anyone else having trouble with purchased music not being delivered?
[14:50] <rye> aquarius, ^
[14:50] <aquarius> Cajun_Lan_Man, there are some issues at the moment that we're working on
[14:51] <rye> aquarius, btw, what's the official status of the music transfer? should I update Status page?
[14:51] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I appreciate it guys.  I feel better knowing there's a known issue.
[14:51] <aquarius> Cajun_Lan_Man, if you can stick around until alecu is here, he can track down your individual issue
[14:52] <aquarius> Cajun_Lan_Man, and he can confirm that the problem you're experiencing and the one we're fixing are the same thing :)
[14:52] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I usually get my music from amazonmp3.com, but I was looking forward to Cononical getting a cut of my purchases instead.
[14:52] <aquarius> we appreciate that :)
[14:52] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I'd be happy to stick around aquarius. Thanks.
[15:21] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Hello alecu. Aquarius mentioned you might be the person I should ask my question to.
[15:22] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I'm just trying to figure out if my problem with the Ubuntu One store is the same as a known issue that exists.
[15:37] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I purchased my first song from the Ubuntu One store last night. The purchase went through ok, and I received a receipt in my e-mail. However, the song has yet to "transfer", or be delivered to my Ubuntu One account.
[15:44] <duffydack> things seem to be working quicker today, my pics and docs folders were starting to get populated after arond 5mins..  it took some time before it said completed, but all is good..
[15:45] <brendan_p> hi all, quick security question. Will removing and re-adding my computer to ubuntuone reset my ubuntuone "OAuth" key
[15:57] <brendan_p> honk
[15:57] <brendan_p> hi all, quick security question. Will removing and re-adding my computer to ubuntuone reset my ubuntuone "OAuth" key?
[15:58] <rye> brendan_p, yes, but existing syncdaemon sessions will not be abruptly closed
[15:59] <brendan_p> great, thanks. much appreciated. it got published in some logs bug fixing with banshee team. just needed to make sure all was ok going forward. thanks again
[15:59] <rye> brendan_p, i did that 2 or three times already, so removing entry will prevent others from using it
[16:00] <brendan_p> super, thanks
[16:19] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I can't seem to get Ubuntu One working on this PC, while it works on another that I have.  In 10.04, where to I set up my Ubuntu One account?
[16:20] <Cajun_Lan_Man> When I click on my name in the top right, and then "Ubuntu One" it seem to indicate that it is disconnected.
[16:23]  * Tm_T tips jussi's hat
[16:25] <jussi> right. fixed. someone had the ircc with a +O...
[16:31] <Tm_T> wasn't me!
[18:17]  * jblount is WORKING_ON_BOTH
[18:43] <PaulGit> vds: ping
[18:44]  * jblount is WORKING_ON_CONTENT
[19:05] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I can't seem to get this computer (10.04) to connect with Ubuntu One.  Could someone tell me the steps to do so? Maybe I'm just missing something obvious.
[19:06] <jblount> Cajun_Lan_Man: Hi! What happens when you click on "Ubuntu One..." in the me menu at the top right?
[19:07] <Cajun_Lan_Man> It simply tells me "unknown" and "disconnected.
[19:07] <Cajun_Lan_Man> it's like the account is not set up.
[19:08] <jblount> Cajun_Lan_Man: Could you open Applictations > Accessories > Passwords and Encryption Keys?
[19:09] <jblount> You should see "Ubuntu One token" or some such in there. Do you?
[19:10] <Cajun_Lan_Man> nothing in there about ubuntu one
[19:10] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I see something about couch in there, but the other stuff is just IM related.
[19:10] <jblount> Cajun_Lan_Man: Gosh, that's strange. In that Ubuntu One control panel you had open before, was there a 'connect' button?
[19:11] <Cajun_Lan_Man> under the devices tab beneath <LOCAL MACHINE> there is a connect button, but it is currently grayed out.
[19:13] <jblount> Cajun_Lan_Man: Are you using a proxy or some other unusual way to connect to the internet? It sounds like U1 is having a hard time sorting your internet connection.
[19:13] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I am going through a Sonicwall with a pretty beefy content filter, but I'm currently bypassing it. (perk of IT)
[19:14] <jblount> Cajun_Lan_Man: I'm pretty sure that U1 uses network manager to know about your connection, are you using it?
[19:18] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I'm sorry, but I'm rather unfamiliar with Ubuntu still. I don't think i'm using it.
[19:20] <Cajun_Lan_Man> Is it something I could check?
[19:22] <jblount> Cajun_Lan_Man: Network manager is the little panel applet at the top that identifies your connection. On the default install it's just to the left of the time up there.
[19:22] <Cajun_Lan_Man> ok, then that's what I'm using.
[19:23] <jblount> Cajun_Lan_Man: Then we've reached the end of my abilities. Let me try to call in the big guns for you :)
[19:24] <Cajun_Lan_Man> well, lets say this was a fresh install of 10.04.  How would I go about telling Ubuntu what my Ubuntu One account is?
[19:24] <jblount> verterok: yo! Could you help Cajun_Lan_Man get connected?
[19:24] <JanC> the first time you connect to U1 you have to create an account, did it ask for that?
[19:24] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I already have an Ubuntu One account.
[19:24] <jblount> Cajun_Lan_Man: That should happen when you click on "Ubuntu One..." in the top right, it should pop a web browser asking for your information.
[19:24] <JanC> create or enter the info of your existing one
[19:24] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I'm trying to figure out how to get the credentials in, I guess.
[19:25] <Cajun_Lan_Man> I guess that's where I'm confused.  When I click "Ubuntu One" It just tells me "Unknown" and "Disconnected". I don't see a place to view my account settings.
[19:25] <Cajun_Lan_Man> So I cannot verify if they're correct or not.
[19:31] <duffydack> ah, I think I understand bookmark backups...  it uses json files.. so you have to goto bookmark editor, and goto import/restore and restore from whatever date it shows you..  or is that wrong
[19:42] <Maybelline> honk
[19:54] <rye> Maybelline, hi
[19:54] <Maybelline> hello
[19:56] <Maybelline> rye, can you help me figure out a problem with U1?
[19:57] <rye> Maybelline, what kind of problem?
[19:58] <Maybelline> I have several files, 100% synced in my U1 folder.  But, when a change gets made to one of the files, it's a 50/50 shot as to whether the changes will get synced or not.
[20:11] <ignorante>  Hello everyone. I added a directory to ubuntuone ( /home/<myuser>/sharing ) but now I can't remove it. I deleted the directory, but u1sdtool --list-folders says that this directory already exist! How can I delete it from ubuntuone?
[20:12] <ignorante> u1sdtool --unsubscribe-folder not work :(
[20:12] <ignorante> i'm in lucid
[20:13] <ignorante> and i can't delete it from ubuntuone website :(
[20:13] <ignorante> honk
[20:13] <ignorante> :P
[20:14] <rye> Maybelline, what version are you running?
[20:15] <rye> ignorante, u1sdtool --list-folders - then u1sdtool --delete-folder=UUID that was assigned to your folder
[20:15] <Maybelline> rye, ubuntuone-client is at 1.2.0-0ubuntu1
[20:18] <ignorante> nobody have same kind of problem?
[20:24] <Maybelline> rye, I do see an exception from today (when I modified a file).  The entry ends with "failure INTERNAL_ERROR"... I'm gonna assume that's a bad thing.
[20:26] <ignorante> but will be a new ubuntuone-applet for ubuntu lucid?
[20:26] <ignorante> because i can't see the ubuntuone icon when i sync my folder
[20:26] <ignorante> (in lucid)
[20:28] <Maybelline> ignorante, I don't have an icon either (in lucid)
[20:31] <mkarnicki> as far as I know, in lucid the icon has been removed and substituted with entry in the me-Menu
[20:31] <mkarnicki> the one that has your login name in upper right corner
[20:33] <ahe> if i copy a directory to the "Ubuntu One" folder only the directory and its subdirectories get synced but not the files which are in this directory and its subdirectories
[20:33] <rye> Maybelline, could you please file a bug via ubuntu-bug ubuntuone-client - that will collect the logs
[20:33] <ahe> any idea what might be the problem?
[20:33] <rye> ahe, the directories appear first, then fiels are uploaded
[20:36] <ahe> rye, i copied the directory yesterday and still no files appear on my other machine
[20:36] <ahe> i must admit that they don't run all the time but it's just a few hundred kb
[20:38] <rye> ahe, you can see the items of the queue in u1sdtool --waiting-meta (for metadata/folders) and u1sdtool --waiting-content for content items
[20:40] <rye> i can say that the speed of processing is low now, the team is working to improve it since it is preventing team members from using ubuntuone as well. Though it looks like it is also location dependent but I can't say for sure for now
[20:41] <ahe> this command works on lucid but doesn't seem to exist in karmic
[21:39] <toros> hi
[21:40] <toros> I see you are working on the new ubuntu one webui
[21:40] <toros> beuno asked for feedback on identica :)
[21:40] <beuno> yes, hi toros
[21:40] <toros> should I say it here, or post in on identica?
[21:41] <beuno> toros, tell me!
[21:42] <toros> beuno: just some minor things :)
[21:43] <toros> the tab bar on the top doesn't look consistent
[21:43] <beuno> toros, what do you mean by tab bar?
[21:43] <toros> when I click on file, there is the grey border around the tab
[21:43] <beuno> ah
[21:43] <beuno> yes
[21:43] <toros> the Files, Notes, Contacts, etc. tabs
[21:43] <beuno> the files tab is not selected
[21:43] <beuno> that is because it's on a different URL
[21:44] <toros> yepp, that is :)
[21:44] <beuno> it will be fixed when it hits production
[21:44] <toros> cool :)
[21:44] <toros> the second is... I don't know if this is a bug at all, that the folder icons are yellow, not orange
[21:44] <toros> so they are not consistent with the ubuntu light themes
[21:44] <beuno> well, that's arguable
[21:44] <beuno> yeah, visual design is left for a second iteration
[21:45] <toros> ok :)
[21:45] <toros> and the third is, that I have to scroll it on my tiny little eee pc 701 (with just 800x480px resolution)
[21:46] <toros> that's again not a real bug
[21:46] <toros> many sites are too big to fit this small screen
[21:46] <beuno> toros, we have a mobile version in the pipeline
[21:46] <beuno> for Maverick!
[21:48] <toros> ohh, and maybe it would be nice to have a "parent folder" button
[21:48] <duffydack> when right clicking a file in your sync`d folder and sharing with everyone, which then allows you to copy the link (which is great), well is the link supposed to work still after you stop sharing it?
[21:48] <beuno> yeah, that would be nice
[21:48] <duffydack> because it does.
[21:49] <beuno> __lucio__, ^
[21:50] <toros> beuno: I think that's all... :)
[21:50] <toros> you did a fantastic job, I new webui is a great improvement
[21:50] <beuno> toros, is it faster for you?
[21:50] <beuno> thank you  :)
[21:50] <toros> yes, much faster :)
[21:51] <beuno> we team-worked with Chipaca
[21:52] <toros> when can we shot the screenshots for our documentation?
[21:54] <beuno> the UI may still change a bit, we're implementing a few features so moving things around
[21:54] <beuno> I'd hold off until Friday
[21:55] <toros> okay! then I'll do it at the weekend
[21:55] <__lucio__> duffydack, no, its supposed to not work anymore when you "unpublish" it
[21:55] <toros> thank you for your great work!
[21:56] <toros> good bye
[21:56] <beuno> toros, thanks for the feedback
[22:05] <duffydack> __lucio__,  guess its a bug then.  it would be a good idea to give any shared files a different icon, like a red tick instead of green, to let you know what files are shared...
[22:06] <duffydack> just a thought.
[22:06] <beuno> duffydack, can you file a bug about it please?
[22:09] <duffydack> ok, when I get a minute..
[23:45] <u-foka> Hy! facundobatista, now I tried and can't reproduce the issue reported as Bug #480978, so thanks for your assistance :)
[23:50] <facundobatista> u-foka, my pleasure, thanks for your time


[13:45]  * floka rolls 2 6-sided dice: 5 1
[15:44] <Saukk> This Xubuntu 17.04 is really good :)
[16:13] <nikolam> Saukk, what's all good worth mention? :P
[16:25] <Saukk> Really light.
[16:25] <Saukk> Good file management and keyboard shortcuts easy to deploy.
[16:25] <Saukk> Better experience than cinnamon, kde or gnomes.
[16:26] <Saukk> I like the pop theme and got it to this Xfce.
[16:26] <Saukk> xubuntu
[16:27] <Saukk> and i using docky  for applications
[16:39] <diogenes_> Saukk, try cairo-dock
[16:48] <Saukk> Why?
[16:52] <nikolam> oh, Xfce is like that, managable :)
[16:59] <mark76> Crikey.  The buntu web browser's not very stable
[17:01] <Unit193> ...Firefox?
[18:11] <Unit193> mark76: What do you mean by 'buntu's web browser'?  Firefox?
[18:12] <Unit193> Not exactly "Ubuntu's", but..
[18:22] <mark76> Not Firefox.  There's one in the software store that's labelled as being an Ubuntu web browser
[18:30] <Unit193> That's not what Xubuntu ships..
[21:00] <mark76> Where does Ubuntu keep its logs?
[21:02] <mark76> Also.  Has anyone here ever experience mouse freeze?
[21:04] <mark76> experienced
[21:04] <mark76> Past tense
[21:22] <irradiated> hey guys, new-ish to xubuntu here
[21:22] <irradiated> anyone have any ideas on why my wifi might be way slower on xubuntu vs windows?
[21:22] <irradiated> it's really unstable on xubuntu but it's fine under win10
[21:24] <redblade7> mark76: what logs?
[21:29] <mark76> Oh
[21:30] <mark76> No logs?
[21:30] <Unit193> What type of logs are you looking for?  /var/log? ~/.xsession-errors? `dmesg`?


[07:54] <seb128> hey there
[07:54] <seb128> unsure if that's a mir regression but that seems to have started with the u-s-c rebuild for mir 0.12
[07:54] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-system-compositor/+bug/1442505
[07:59] <seb128> same for bug #1442508
[08:54] <alan_g> RAOF: still working? Would be useful to discuss surface modification APIs
[15:58] <alan_g> anyone got time to review this? I hope it isn't contentious - https://code.launchpad.net/~alan-griffiths/mir/some-surface-modification-infrastructure/+merge/255648


[12:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Focal <IP_ADDRESS>] (20210210.1) has been added
[13:07] <eiRFG> /!\ this channel has moved to ##hamradio /!\
 um
 ah Freenode spammers
[13:11] <mlhessCc> /!\ this channel has moved to #nyymit /!\
[13:12] <circle> /!\ this channel has moved to #nyymit /!\
[13:13] <kloerihi> /!\ this channel has moved to #nyymit /!\
[13:16] <duckgooseMp> /!\ this channel has moved to #nyymit /!\
 freenode spammers, beautiful
[13:19] <ItzSwirlz> *blows kiss*
[13:44] <Maik> I guess that's what you get in channels that don't use the r option
[13:45] <Maik> option/flag
[13:49] <ItzSwirlz> I think we already use -r flag, not sure, ill check
[13:49] <Maik> nope
[13:50] <Maik> +cntf
[13:51] <ItzSwirlz> Pici, balloons, popey: can we add -r flag to prevent spam
[13:52] <ItzSwirlz> Eickmeyer: you too, can you add -r (your on irc council iirc)
[13:53] <popey> ItzSwirlz I'd recommend asking in #ubuntu-irc
[13:53] <ItzSwirlz> sure
[14:10] <balloons> 👍
 The spammer just needs a hug.
 When I saw Ham radio, I thought that I went back in time.
[14:57] <Eickmeyer> ItzSwirlz: I'm not on irc council. I'm just an op for some channels.
[14:57] <ItzSwirlz> oh. my bad.
 ItzSwirz: Eickmeyer is Community Council, CC sits above IRCC but we don't control ops, etc.
 this channel is a Bad Fit for +r in my opinion (as a member of the IRC core ops group for other channels)
 (my +o on "core channels" doesn't extend to here though, just saying.)
 (nor other channels, but I digress)
[14:59] <hggdh> :-)
 hggdh on the otherhand IS IRCC but changing +r / -r is a bigger decision
 AND tends to have... other problems..
[15:00] <hggdh> and, for the record, I do not see a reason to do so right now
[15:00] <teward> ^ that
 Will you ask for us? (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <popey> ItzSwirlz I'd recommend asking in #ubuntu-irc)
[15:03] <ItzSwirlz> i'm asking right now
 Thanks mate (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <ItzSwirlz> i'm asking right now)
[15:08] <hggdh> it has already been asked, and the consensus so far is that +r is not needed. This was an isolated event
 Thanks. (re @ubuntutesting_bot: [irc] <hggdh> it has already been asked, and the consensus so far is that +r is not needed. This was an isolated event)
[15:47] <Maik> sigh... ok then
[16:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-quality- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Focal <IP_ADDRESS>] (20210210) has been added


[11:27] <CIA-5> netcfg: cjwatson * r642 ubuntu/ (96 files in 5 dirs): merge from Debian 1.56
[11:43] <CIA-5> netcfg: cjwatson * r643 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.56ubuntu1
[12:00] <CIA-5> debian-installer-utils: cjwatson * r702 ubuntu/ (6 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 1.80
[12:01] <CIA-5> debian-installer-utils: cjwatson * r703 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.80ubuntu1
[12:06] <CIA-5> finish-install: cjwatson * r838 ubuntu/ (12 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 2.26
[12:08] <CIA-5> finish-install: cjwatson * r839 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.26ubuntu1
[12:11] <CIA-5> iso-scan: cjwatson * r271 ubuntu/debian/ (53 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 1.29
[12:11] <CIA-5> iso-scan: cjwatson * r272 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog iso-scan.templates): Add natty to cdrom/suite Choices; drop jaunty.
[12:13] <CIA-5> iso-scan: cjwatson * r273 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.29ubuntu1
[12:34] <CIA-5> pkgsel: cjwatson * r163 ubuntu/ (78 files in 3 dirs): merge from Debian 0.30
[12:37] <CIA-5> pkgsel: cjwatson * r164 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.30ubuntu1
[13:18] <CIA-5> hw-detect: cjwatson * r146 ubuntu/ (94 files in 5 dirs): merge from Debian 1.80
[13:28] <CIA-5> hw-detect: cjwatson * r147 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.80ubuntu1
[18:49] <cjwatson> ooh, Debian came up with a better implementation than my dmi-available-memory hack in base-installer.
[18:49] <cjwatson> turns out the information's in /sys/firmware/memmap/


[02:55] <WeisseWaschbaer> hey... I opened visudo and it came out with a nano interface.... how do i make it use the vi's or vim's interface?
[02:59] <shauno> WeisseWaschbaer: it should honor the VISUAL envar
[03:08] <WeisseWaschbaer> shauno: i feel helpless on nano
[03:11] <shauno> WeisseWaschbaer: heh, I understand.  if you do something like sudo EDITOR=vim visudo, it should wise up
[03:12] <shauno> (and may be worth adding EDITOR to your environment, so that everything knows you're not at home in nano)
[03:14] <WeisseWaschbaer> shauno: thanks
[04:18] <yakster> hello all...
[04:18] <yakster> anyone here good with /var/www?
[04:18] <yakster> seem to have an issue with case sensitive URL's
[04:20] <yakster> ok....... quiet...
[04:21] <yakster> ok....gone...
[04:21] <yakster> guess everyone is sleeping...
[04:51] <chrislabeard> how can I remove zentyal?
[06:09] <DormantOden> Hello, when I transfer large files (1GB) to my raid 5 they become slightly corrupted. Does anyone have ANY ideas as to why this might be happening?
[06:09] <DormantOden> Its stressing me out...
[06:20] <qman__> DormantOden, if your drives are 1TB+, you could be getting silent data corruption
[06:20] <qman__> it simply happens, you have to deal with it in other ways
[06:21] <qman__> make sure your drives check out first with the SMART data
[06:32] <Martyn> qman: Silent data corruption?  That's pretty rare...
[06:32] <Martyn> qman : Unless there's a known firmware defect in a specific drive...?
[06:33] <qman__> with today's drive sizes, it's actually pretty common
[06:33] <qman__> most people just don't notice
[06:34] <qman__> I've had a few video files suffer by it
[06:35] <qman__> though a consistent, reproduceable result would mean something else is going on
[06:40] <FernandoTertiary> hola, it appears since the recent update the destop environment has reverted to a more aged version
[06:58] <bazhang> FernandoTertiary, on a server?
[08:22] <FernandoTertiary> bazhang: the machine is operating Ubuntu 11.10
[08:23] <bazhang> FernandoTertiary, server has no desktop
[08:24] <FernandoTertiary> bazhang: the machine is using gnome 3
[08:28] <bazhang> FernandoTertiary, support for 11.10 is in #ubuntu+1 , at any rate.
[08:31] <FernandoTertiary> bazhang: it appears the to be operating 11.04 Natty Narwhal
[08:31] <bazhang> FernandoTertiary, not with gnome3 its not.
[08:31] <FernandoTertiary> though there was a recent update & the desktop reverted
[08:31] <bazhang> FernandoTertiary, unless you used the unsupported PPA.
[08:31] <FernandoTertiary> Natty Narwhal is not gnome 3 yet?
[08:32] <bazhang> nope
[08:33] <FernandoTertiary> what is the desktop environment specification for Natty Narwhal
[08:33] <FernandoTertiary> ?
[08:33] <bazhang> unity / classic  /  for server ---> nothing
[08:34] <FernandoTertiary> perhaps the unity was reverted to classic?
[08:34] <bazhang> FernandoTertiary, you installed server?
[08:35] <FernandoTertiary> just Natty Narwhal & the updates. The machine has been operating for months
[08:35] <bazhang> FernandoTertiary, so why ask in the -server channel?
[08:37] <FernandoTertiary> ah, forgive. was to the impression the server channel pertained the repository information
[08:37] <bazhang> FernandoTertiary, what does lsb_release -a say in the terminal
[08:38] <FernandoTertiary> No LSB modules are available.
[08:38] <FernandoTertiary> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[08:38] <FernandoTertiary> Description:	Ubuntu 11.04
[08:38] <FernandoTertiary> Release:	11.04
[08:38] <FernandoTertiary> Codename:	natty
[08:38] <bazhang> FernandoTertiary, and you installed gnome3?
[08:39] <FernandoTertiary> rather have researched gnome environments & supposed Ubuntu was using gnome 3
[08:40] <bazhang> okay, it's not. stay clear of the PPA for it.
[08:40] <xibalba> does anyone use ubuntu for opensips?
[08:41] <FernandoTertiary> xibalba: you mean "OpenSims"?
[08:41] <xibalba> negative, opensips, the call routing platform
[08:41] <FernandoTertiary> ah, comprehended *smiles*
[08:41] <xibalba> whats opensims?
[08:42] <xibalba> a video game?
[08:45] <FernandoTertiary> xibalba: kinda video gaming. OpenSims is a interactive metaverse community platform
[08:46] <FernandoTertiary> OpenSims is the opensource version for SecondLife type communities
[08:47] <xibalba> oh
[08:47] <xibalba> opensips is for voip stuff
[08:54] <FernandoTertiary> xibalba: phone service specifically, or phone line communications similar dsl, etc.?
[08:55] <FernandoTertiary> is voip specifically for just "voice" or potentially more?
[09:10] <xibalba> i want to use it for doing some call routing infront of freeswitch boxes and media relaying, so i can vitualize the freeswitch boxes.
[10:53] <Guest75493> Can you please help me setting up wifi on ubuntu server?
[10:54] <Dr4g> He guys, please help: root@AllTheBestBuys:/etc# mysql --user=root -p
[10:54] <Dr4g> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[10:54] <Dr4g> root@AllTheBestBuys:/etc# service mysql start
[10:54] <Dr4g> start: Job failed to start
[10:55] <Dr4g> mysql.sock doesn't exist
[11:21] <oCean> Dr4g: what  does dpkg -l | grep mysql  output?
[11:21] <Dr4g> oCean: yeah i sorted it
[11:22] <Dr4g> i deleted that server from rackspace cloud and made a new one :P
[11:22] <oCean> ah, ok.
[11:22] <Dr4g> the apt-get install messed something up
[11:22] <Dr4g> its ok this time
[11:22] <oCean> happy mysql'ing then
[11:28] <Dr4g> :) ty
[12:04] <koolhead17> kim0:
[13:54] <shan> I have installed ubuntu-server-10.04
[13:54] <shan> I have installed ubuntu-desktop in it.
[13:55] <shan> When the login screen is displayed it says mode not supported.
[13:55] <shan> I need to change the resolution of the login screen, how do i do it?
[14:08] <KGB_plague> hi all , is their a way to host a VPN service for a friend whos living in a city near by ? , he ping me 10ms , but when he tries to ping the game server i play in , he pings it 150ms which i ping it 30 , i want him to connect through me with a VPN connection so he can ping 30+10 = 40ms to that server. any idea?'s im using Ubuntu Gnome Desktop , is it compulsory to use ubuntu server for such situtation?
[14:25] <shauno> KGB_plague: nothing's compulsory.  you can install server components on desktop if you wish, and desktop components on server.  which you pick mostly changes what you get out of the box, not what you can do with it
[14:31] <KGB_plague> is their an APP to help me out shauno or should this be done by the hard way
[14:47] <shauno> KGB_plague: there may be an easy way.  I haven't found it yet :(
[14:56] <KGB_plague> shauno, then il idle here , if some1 may help , please PM me thanks , im off for some work il be back home in2hours
[15:06] <JamesG> hey guys
[15:06] <JamesG> looking for a little help?
[15:08] <JamesG> Where would the HDD be mounted in an openvz set up?
[15:08] <JamesG> I can't find it anywhere
[15:40] <Stava> I already asked this in #debian but im actually on a ubuntu server so i'll paste it here
[15:40] <Stava> I want to append the output of "df -h" to syslog in my cron job, so that it will be sent to my mail by logwatch (i have zz-disk_space disabled). How should I do this?
[15:43] <Stava> I tried "df -h | logger" but then each line will appear as a separate entry in /var/log/syslog
[16:25] <RoyK> Stava: I'd recommend using something like nagios/icinga instead, so that you don't need to read the logs all the time, but rather get an alert if something's wrong
[16:26] <RoyK> there are several tools out there to alert you when something goes wrong, reading daily emails to sort out server health was something people did in the ninetees
[16:29] <Stava> :O
[16:29] <Stava> I'll check those out then
[16:31] <RoyK> we're using icinga
[16:31] <RoyK> a nagios fork
[16:31] <Stava> How does it work?
[16:32] <RoyK> it schedules checks for all sorts of services and if one fails, it sends you an email
[16:32] <RoyK> basically
[16:32] <Stava> Kind of like tiger?
[16:33] <Stava> http://www.nongnu.org/tiger/
[16:33] <RoyK> that seems more like a security tool
[16:34] <RoyK> icinga/nagios has checks like check_disk to check for fill, check_tcp to probe tcp ports, check_http to check a webserver etc
[16:34] <RoyK> Stava: https://www.icinga.org/ <-- check the demo page
[16:34] <Stava> I will
[16:35] <RoyK> it also kees track on statistics, so that you can show your boss 99,lots% uptime etc :)
[16:36] <Stava> awesome
[16:36] <Stava> so this demo page is a web interface, thats a part of icinga i assume
[16:37] <RoyK> yes
[16:37] <Stava> which could run on apache?
[16:37] <RoyK> configuration is done in text files, the web gui is for viewing and some tweaks
[16:37] <RoyK> I think standard install is for apache, yes, but it could run on anything, really
[16:38] <Stava> could several servers share the same icinga interface?
[16:39] <RoyK> we have ~140 servers in our icinga install
[16:39] <Stava> impressive
[16:40] <Stava> i'll definitely try this out
[16:40] <RoyK> check out #icinga if you have specific questions about it - the standard install (apt-get ...) should give you a basic overview
[16:41] <RoyK> erm - seems icinga isn't in Lucid
[16:41] <RoyK> so either use nagios (same thing, only looks a bit crappier), or use a newer distro version, or build icinga from source (a bit more hassle, but it should work)
[16:42] <RoyK> I'd recommend using a dedicated machine for this, if you can spare one (an old pc should do fine). that way, the monitoring machine won't be affected if others die, so that it can monitor everything
[16:43] <Stava> Will I need some sort of client software on the other servers?
[16:43] <RoyK> depends what you want to check - for windows machines, nsclient++ is a good choice
[16:44] <RoyK> btw, seems there are packages here http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/icinga/
[16:45] <RoyK> for unix machines, I ususally just use ssh-based checks
[16:45] <RoyK> create a user 'icinga' (or something) on each machine, create ssh keys on the icinga box, copy those so you can ssh from the icinga user on the monitoring machine to the clients without a password, and then setup ssh-based checks
[16:47] <RoyK> otherwise, use NRPE - it's lighter and better for large setups with thousands of machines, but then again, it's another piece of software and ssh-based checks aren't that heavy - our icinga box sits spending about 3% cpu (on two cores)
[16:47] <RoyK> and that's with about 140 hosts and a total of 500 services
[16:47] <Stava> there are only 3 servers for now, but its supposed to be scalable
[16:48] <RoyK> for <= 100 servers, even an 5YO PC should do well
[16:48] <RoyK> it's rather light
[17:29] <RoyK> damn - I made an error on the wiki - isn't there a rollback possibility?
[17:55] <tmcneal> Hey all, question about the ubuntu server ec2 images.. was wondering how you all configure new ubuntu instances once you bring them online.. I know some other AMIs allow you to pass a script via the 'user-data' param when you start the instance, but it seems ubuntu AMIs don't support this
[17:56] <Daviey> tmcneal: they do.. you probably want to use cloud-init
[17:57] <Daviey> tmcneal: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CloudInit
[17:57] <tmcneal> cool thanks
[17:58] <Daviey> np
[18:11] <Weisse> .part
[18:15] <TuxBrother> what is so special about UEC?
[18:15] <TuxBrother> what is it? A web interface? Application Virtualisation? VDI?
[18:38] <Shapeshifter> How do I configure a new daemon to be run at boot? In my case it's vmware. start vmware says start: Unknown job: vmware although /etc/init.d/vmware exists and works. Any help?
[18:42] <StevenR> Shapeshifter: the vmware service isn't an upstart job, so the start/stop commands won't work. You can still add it to start on boot using update-rc.d
[18:45] <Shapeshifter> StevenR: mhh, I just realized that it does work. it was an unrelated problem
[18:46] <StevenR> ok
[20:08] <JoeCoder> I'm using the open source cloudfuse project to mount rackspace cloudfiles into a folder on my machine.  But after every reboot I must run "modprobe fuse" and "cloudfuse /mount/point".  What is the proper way of making these happen automatically?
[20:28] <KGB_plague> please PM me if theirs an APP to host a VPN server guys , my friend pings the game server that we play in 150ms , but I ping the game server 30ms , however my friend pings me 10ms from hes home to my home , so i would like to host a VPN server for him so he can be routed to me to join the game server with 40ms instead of 150ms ( 10ms to me + 30ms from me to game server = 40ms for him )
[20:28] <Devo-Kun> JoeCoder: /etc/modules has the names of modules to load at boot time. You can add fuse to there and then add a line to /etc/rc.local with your cloudfuse command
[20:46] <bhook> anyone around?
[21:25] <pmatulis> bhook: yes, there are 292 people in this channel
[21:28] <guntbert> pmatulis: after  3/4 hours that was not very convincing :-))
[22:06] <bhook> yeah... been a while since I heavily used IRC... I forgot the standard was to ask a question then check the logs a day later
[22:07] <Myrtti> lol
[22:08] <bhook> it seems that the official image in the UEC store is requiring a fsck run on first boot because the image was created so long ago. Would there be a way to get this corrected in the official image in the store?
[22:09] <Daviey> bhook: What image are you using?
[22:10] <bhook> 10.04 LTS out of the store
[22:10] <Daviey> bhook: what is the serial number?
[22:10] <bhook> hrm... let me check
[22:12] <bhook> grrr.... I hate this
[22:13] <Daviey> bhook: you probably want: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/lucid/current/lucid-server-uec-amd64.tar.gz
[22:13] <bhook> I'm running Ubuntu in a VM rather than native on this laptop... everything is so much more difficult to do
[22:14] <bhook> Daviey: yeah, I know I can get more recent images
[22:14] <Daviey> bhook: I fear the image store isn't up to date.
[22:14] <bhook> Daviey: but... why?
[22:15] <bhook> I guess if the store is controlled by the Eucalyptus team then it isn't really ubuntu's problem
[22:15] <bhook> but it just seems silly to have everything out-of-date
[22:15] <Daviey> bhook: It's not controlled by euca, it's controlled by canonical.
[22:15] <bhook> The store is?
[22:15] <Daviey> yah
[22:16] <bhook> okay, then it makes even less sense why it is out of date
[22:18] <Daviey> bhook: The team that maintained the store was not the server team.  Raising a bug would help. :)
[22:18]  * Daviey afk's
[22:32] <yakster> hello all
[22:32] <yakster> anyone here good with /var/www?
[22:33] <jmarsden> yakster: /var/www/ is a directory -- how can anyone be good or bad with a directory?
[22:35] <yakster> referencing the capatalization of URL's so it dosent matter, ie www.mysite.com/Welcome.html or /welcome.HTML....
[22:36] <yakster> if I don't type the URL in exactly, including case, i get 404 errors
[22:37] <yakster> anyone?
[22:39] <yakster> ok, guess not... thanks