[15:59] <jawn-smith> o/
[16:00] <ginggs> o/
[16:00] <jawn-smith> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
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[16:01] <danilogondolfo> o/
[16:01] <slyon> o/
[16:01] <jawn-smith> The weekly status is here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-5-january-2023/33029
[16:01] <jawn-smith> Let's all take our usual time to read and ask questions
[16:02] <slyon> waveform: FYI (libcamera), I rejected that MIR recently: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libcamera/+bug/1997560
[16:02] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1997560 in libcamera (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libcamera" [Undecided, New]
[16:02] <slyon> hopefully we'll get it approved in Lunar+1
[16:03] <bdmurray> enr0n: was there anything interesting in the upgrade bugs?
[16:04] <enr0n> bdmurray: No, just the usual suspects
[16:04] <waveform> slyon, ah, interesting -- I was looking into the state vs upstream (raspios has quite a bit in libcamera that we haven't but then they're actively working on getting the pi camera modules working on it)
[16:04] <enr0n> Though there was a request to modernize some warning, let me find the bug number
[16:05] <enr0n> bdmurray: bug 2000416
[16:05] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2000416 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Can the upgrade take several hours?" [Low, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2000416
[16:05] <bdmurray> schopin: is there a timeline for this glibc SRU? he said worrying about the queues
[16:05] <adrien> slyon: the version number (v0.0.x) is not very representative I think: it does a lot of things already and I think it's been fairly stable
[16:05] <schopin> bdmurray: not yet, but I'm very aware of that :)
[16:06] <jawn-smith> bdmurray: was pyside2 causing the s390x queue issues?
[16:06] <slyon> adrien: right. but they didn't have a release process at all up until recently. and there were some other factors that made me feel it's not yet stable enough (though getting more solid now)
[16:07] <waveform> yeah, it's definitely not "stable" yet :)
[16:08] <bdmurray> enr0n: removing packages can take a long time https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1874272
[16:08] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1874272 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Focal) "Stage 'searching for obsolete software' takes a very long time (30 minutes)" [High, Confirmed]
[16:08] <adrien> slyon: yup, and it's frustrating because the existing alternatives are quite lacking imho
[16:09] <mclemenceau_> o/
[16:09] <slyon> full ack. we now have the desktop team signed up to this, and they'll help getting it into a better shape inside Debian & Ubuntu
[16:10] <jawn-smith> #topic Release incoming bugs
[16:10] <jawn-smith> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ll-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:11] <jawn-smith> bug 1998095
[16:11] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1998095 in pkgconf (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pkgconf, replacement for pkg-config" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1998095
[16:11] <jawn-smith> We talked about this last year
[16:11] <jawn-smith> The plan is to wait for pkgconf's new version to migrate, right?
[16:11] <slyon> I think we can untag that.
[16:11] <slyon> we made the decission to take ownership
[16:12] <bdmurray> Did we subscribe to the package?
[16:12] <slyon> we are subscribed
[16:13] <jawn-smith> Okay slyon can you untag it?
[16:13] <slyon> done.
[16:13] <jawn-smith> Thanks!
[16:13] <jawn-smith> That's it for ll
[16:14] <jawn-smith> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-kk-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:14] <jawn-smith> bug 1842439
[16:14] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1842439 in apport (Ubuntu Focal) "apport-gtk crashed with SIGSEGV in _gtk_settings_get_screen(settings=0x0) from gtk_css_value_icon_theme_compute() from gtk_css_static_style_compute_value()" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1842439
[16:14] <jawn-smith> I feel like we've talked about this like 5 times
[16:14] <schopin> you're low on your count...
[16:14] <jawn-smith> Looks like the last time we discussed it there was an action item for bdmurray to bring it up at the desktop sync
[16:14] <jawn-smith> did that happen?
[16:15] <bdmurray> yes, and they said apport should protect against this type of crash
[16:15] <jawn-smith> So does that mean there's a task for foundations here?
[16:16] <schopin> bdrung: didn't you say it wasn't possible to detect the bad case from Python?
[16:16] <bdmurray> "apport should catch the error and work around the issue" he read from the notes
[16:16] <schopin> catch a segfault? oO
[16:17] <jawn-smith> Okay bdmurray to update the bug, and we'll discuss again when b_drung is available
[16:17] <jawn-smith> That's it for kk then
[16:17] <jawn-smith> #link https://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:17] <jawn-smith> bug 1957863
[16:17] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1957863 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "coding errors in update-motd-fsck-at-reboot script" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1957863
[16:18] <jawn-smith> bdmurray: you tagged this one
[16:18] <jawn-smith> It appears the submitter has suggested a fix
[16:19] <bdmurray> It seems like it should be pretty straight forward
[16:19] <jawn-smith> So we just need a person to work on this
[16:21] <jawn-smith> bdmurray says someone who is seeking upload rights should work on this
[16:21] <jawn-smith> enr0n ?
[16:21] <jawn-smith> I'll review and sponsor
[16:22] <jawn-smith> Moving on then
[16:22] <jawn-smith> bug 1999345
[16:22] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1999345 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "please add luks2 module to the signed grub2 images" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1999345
[16:22] <jawn-smith> juliank says no
[16:22] <jawn-smith> apparently juliank says maybe
[16:23] <jawn-smith> juliank to touch base with the security team (specifically Chris)
[16:23] <adrien> re update-notifier, shellcheck only complains about one instance of that typo (and it's a better way to develop than -u)
[16:23] <jawn-smith> adrien: good to know, thanks
[16:25] <jawn-smith> #topic proposed-migration
[16:25] <jawn-smith> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:25] <jawn-smith> This will be slightly different from normal
[16:25] <jawn-smith> The s390x and arm64 queues are struggling, so we're going to skip any regressions on those architectures for now
[16:26] <jawn-smith> dbus-glib has one amd64 regression
[16:26] <jawn-smith> I just retriggered it because it looks like flakiness
[16:27] <jawn-smith> git has a few regressions we can look into
[16:27] <schopin> I can take git.
[16:27] <jawn-smith> Thanks!
[16:29] <jawn-smith> adduser has a few that aren't s390 or arm64
[16:29] <jawn-smith> I'll take adduser
[16:29] <jawn-smith> python-werkzeug has some as well
[16:29] <jawn-smith> any volunteers?
[16:29] <slyon> I can take that
[16:29] <jawn-smith> Thanks!
[16:30] <jawn-smith> sysvinit has some we can look at
[16:30] <jawn-smith> any volunteers?
[16:30] <ogayot> I can have a look
[16:30] <jawn-smith> Excellent, thanks
[16:30] <jawn-smith> systemd has one ppc64el regression
[16:30] <jawn-smith> enr0n ?
[16:30] <enr0n> yeah
[16:31] <jawn-smith> debootstrap: any volunteers?
[16:31] <waveform> I can take that; given the u-u regression is already on my plate
[16:32] <jawn-smith> Thanks
[16:32] <adrien> I can ha... too slow
[16:32] <jawn-smith> devscripts is missing builds
[16:32] <jawn-smith> on all architectures it seems
[16:32] <ginggs> i'll take it
[16:32] <jawn-smith> ginggs to work that one
[16:32] <jawn-smith> coreutils, any volunteers?
[16:33] <adrien> I'm quite curious as to what "missing builds" mean
[16:33] <jawn-smith> Generally FTBFS
[16:33] <adrien> I can look at it
[16:33] <jawn-smith> perhaps it would be more accurate for it to say "failed builds"
[16:33] <adrien> nice thing is that coreutils makes coreutils fail
[16:33] <jawn-smith> but I think that "missing builds" might also include packages that just haven't built yet?
[16:33] <jawn-smith> Anyway, thanks for taking coreutils adrien
[16:34] <jawn-smith> libconfig-inifiles-perl
[16:34] <jawn-smith> Any takers?
[16:35] <jawn-smith> danilogondolfo: libconfig-inifiles-perl
[16:36] <jawn-smith> zope.interface: vpa
[16:36] <jawn-smith> libnet-domain-tld-perl
[16:37] <jawn-smith> xypron: can you take that one?
[16:37] <xypron> ok
[16:37] <jawn-smith> Thanks!
[16:37] <jawn-smith> apport: bdrung
[16:38] <jawn-smith> juliank: sbuild?
[16:40] <jawn-smith> Everyone has one now
[16:40] <jawn-smith> #topic AOB
[16:44] <jawn-smith> #endmeeting
[16:44] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 16:44:48 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2023/ubuntu-meeting.2023-01-05-16.01.moin.txt
[16:47] <bdmurray> I retried the apport one bdrung
[17:00] <bdrung> bdmurray, i pressed the retry as well.


[03:55] <mapreri> To understand, how often does launchpad import last uploaded debian packages?  I seem to be able to sync all uploads done before the 1952Z dinstall after the next morning, but then nothing until very late evening, or something..
[04:22] <wgrant> mapreri: We import every six hours, but it's possible that Debian's schedule has changed so we import just before the next dinstall, for example.
[04:23] <mapreri> wgrant: debian's cron never changed (0152,0752,1352,1952 UTC), but dinstall got a lot faster since they moved machine, taking ~1 hour only)
[04:24] <mapreri> dunno whether that caused some desync
[04:24] <mapreri> anyway, couldn't you ask for a ssh trigger + mirror push instead?
[04:26] <wgrant> mapreri: What's an example of a package that seemed to show up late?
[04:27] <mapreri> wgrant: right now I'm looking at gnuplot, which is already in my friendly mirror.
[04:27] <mapreri> and now is on lp too, meh
[04:28] <mapreri> ~30 mins ago or so wasn't
[04:28] <wgrant> It only made it onto ftp.uk.debian.org 21 minutes ago
[04:28] <wgrant> Which is what we current sync from
[04:28] <mapreri> "14 minutes ago" says https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/gnuplot :)
[04:28] <wgrant> But that's only delayed by 20 minutes
[04:29] <mapreri> so is actually really just me being over anxious
[04:29] <wgrant> Heh
[04:29] <mapreri> and have to wait for the files to percolate through the various hops/mirrors
[11:45] <nottrobin> This page - https://help.launchpad.net/API/Webhooks - says "You can create new webhooks by visiting a supported object in the Launchpad web UI and following the "Manage webhooks" link". Do you know how I do that for a Git repository? E.g. https://code.launchpad.net/documentation-builder ?
[12:01] <cjwatson> nottrobin: The link you gave is a project, not a Git repository
[12:01] <cjwatson> (despite the rendering ...)
[12:01] <cjwatson> nottrobin: Try following the "lp:documentation-builder" link there, ending up at https://code.launchpad.net/~nottrobin/documentation-builder/+git/documentation-builder
[12:03] <nottrobin> cjwatson: ah ha! wonderful thanks
[13:54] <wxl> it seems to me that the email interface for bugs would work much better for the vast majority of clients if commands were prepended by something other than a space. the prevalence of format=flowed makes for problems.
[13:55] <wxl> well, spaces, greater thans, and any dash and a space
[13:56] <wxl> those are all bad
[13:56] <wxl> tildes are nice tho :)
[21:34] <chatter29> hey guys
[21:34] <chatter29> allah is doing
[21:34] <chatter29> sun is not doing allah is doing
[21:34] <chatter29> to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger


[01:33] <[reed]> armin76: wallet hasn't been cvs rm'd yet?
[01:33] <[reed]> hehe
[01:33] <[reed]> everybody hates wallet
[01:33] <[reed]> horrible code
[03:21] <[reed]> armin76: ping!
[03:21] <[reed]> armin76: mozilla bug 361415... you should have requested approval :)
[03:21] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 361415 in XPCOM "PowerPC64 not supported." [Normal,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=361415
[07:27] <[reed]> ugh
[07:27] <[reed]> this Nokia guy is getting on my nerves
[07:28] <[reed]> if you're going to make a patch, make it against trunk
[07:28] <[reed]> not some random repo
[07:28] <[reed]> that is definitely not Mozilla
[10:25] <armin76> [reed]: yeah, sorry :(
[10:26] <armin76> thanks for adding it :)
[10:27] <armin76> and no, wallet hasn't been removed :)
[11:39] <nenolod> Ubulette, where's your ppa? i'll try that one
[11:40] <Ubulette> https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive
[11:40]  * nenolod pulls the deb and installs it
[11:40] <Ubulette> no
[11:41] <Ubulette> don't try unless you grab all the deps (ie libnss/nspr)
[11:41] <nenolod> Ubulette, yours is 2 days newer
[11:41] <nenolod> Ubulette, could be that they fixed it already
[11:41] <Ubulette> it's easy to revert though. just grep for +fta
[11:42] <[reed]> nenolod!
[11:42] <[reed]> ltns
[11:42] <nenolod> hi [reed]
[11:42] <nenolod> Ubulette, yeah. i just put the apt repo in.
[11:42] <nenolod> [reed], how's gnu these days
[11:42] <[reed]> good, though I'm mostly doing Mozilla stuff nowadays
[11:43] <[reed]> trying to kick these Ubuntu guys into shape to drive their patches through correctly :)
[11:43] <nenolod> Ubulette, ok, testing with your 1/03/08 snapshot (hardy is 1/01/08)
[11:44] <nenolod> still does it
[11:44] <nenolod> bummer.
[11:45] <armin76> bad ubuntu guys
[11:45] <Ubulette> the big difference between my version and the one in hardy is indeed not that. it's nss.
[11:45] <nenolod> oh well
[11:46] <nenolod> DarkMageZ, i had an adventure tonight after upgrading my ram
[11:46] <nenolod> DarkMageZ, i just wound up replacing all dimms
[11:46] <nenolod> DarkMageZ, http://nenoblog.net/?p=11
[11:46] <nenolod> oh. whoops. this isn't #conspire.
[11:47] <nenolod> sorry for the offtopic banter. :P
[11:47] <armin76> fail
[11:47] <DarkMageZ> nenolod, lol @ no spd chip.
[11:48] <DarkMageZ> that should be illegal.
[11:48] <nenolod> DarkMageZ, yeah. there's a bit of sarcasm in that post, because i was quite ticked off that i wasted 2 hours chasing down a bug in gtk+ about pointers which was because that valueram dimm was being overclocked 150%
[11:48] <nenolod> :D
[11:49] <DarkMageZ> oh, so that's what you and persia were chatting about?
[11:49] <DarkMageZ> i missed most of that conversation.
[11:49] <nenolod> no
[11:49] <nenolod> we were talking about bug #180463
[11:49] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 180463 in gtk+2.0 "gnome-panel crashed with SIGSEGV in idle_populate_func()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180463
[11:50] <DarkMageZ> ah
[11:50] <nenolod> which was unrelated to my memory fun
[11:53] <Ubulette> nenolod, as i said, it was b3pre too so it didn't matter. I was more doubting an extension, hence safe mode
[11:54] <Ubulette> but maybe [reed] knows better
[11:54] <[reed]> ?
[11:54] <nenolod> Ubulette, i don't use any extensions or anything
[11:54] <[reed]> what's the problem?
[11:54] <nenolod> [reed], http://nenolod.net/pornlibisgreat.png
[11:54] <Ubulette> oh
[11:55] <[reed]> hmm, I saw something like that the other day
[11:55] <Ubulette> when loading http://nenolod.net/canhasdesktop.png
[11:55] <Ubulette> i can't reproduce here
[11:55] <nenolod> [reed], why is it called pornlib anyway
[11:55] <nenolod> or is it libporn?
[11:55] <[reed]> libpr0n, you mean?
[11:55] <nenolod> yeah. that.
[11:55] <[reed]> dunno... stuart, the creator and maintainer, named it that
[11:56] <[reed]> he was in his teens at the time
[11:56] <[reed]> :)
[11:56] <nenolod> at any rate
[11:56] <nenolod> firefox3 causes me to have renewed faith in mozilla products
[11:56] <[reed]> nenolod: for what reasons particularly?
[11:56] <nenolod> don't screw it up
[11:56] <nenolod> ;p
[11:57] <nenolod> [reed], it doesn't sit there and memory leak 600mb of pixmap/normal memory after 1 hour of use
[11:57] <[reed]> hehe
[11:57] <[reed]> yeah
[11:57] <[reed]> we have a large leak only on Linux right now, too... it's going to get looked at next week
[11:57] <[reed]> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/287777
[11:58] <nenolod> firefox2 left me with the feeling that "mozilla developers are clearly morons and if i really had time i would try to make gtk-webcore not suck"
[11:58] <[reed]> if any of you all want to try to fix it, that would also be great ;)
[11:58] <nenolod> and then webkit came out
[11:58] <[reed]> hah
[11:58] <[reed]> well, Firefox 3 is over two year's worth of work
[11:58] <nenolod> so what was firefox2 then?
[11:58] <nenolod> a cheap hack? :P
[11:59] <[reed]> yes! :)
[11:59] <armin76> +1
[11:59] <[reed]> lol
[11:59] <nenolod> "we took buggy POS firefox 1.5 and gave it new graphics. it's COOL GUYS."
[11:59] <[reed]> nenolod: besides the stabbing of leaks, what else do you like about Firefox 3?
[11:59] <nenolod> [reed], oh well. i can thank the mozilla corporation for giving me motivation to waste $400 on memory for my computer so that firefox2 is usable
[12:00] <armin76> [reed]: that url is empty :P
[12:00] <[reed]> armin76: bah, let me repost it
[12:00] <nenolod> [reed], i figure it'll take a lot of web browsing to clog up 4GB of memory
[12:00] <[reed]> armin76: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/291342
[12:01] <nenolod> (and i am sorry if that seems harsh, but it's the truth!)
[12:01] <[reed]> yeah
[12:01] <[reed]> Firefox 2 was really bad
[12:01] <nenolod> [reed], that's a "huge leak"?
[12:01] <armin76> bad
[12:01] <[reed]> nenolod: well, at least one leak we're seeing
[12:01] <DarkMageZ> the truth is better than giving people false hope in their own product
[12:01] <nenolod> [reed], what about the 500mb per hour memory leak in firefox2?
[12:01] <[reed]> we're not done fixing leaks :)
[12:02] <[reed]> nenolod: hah, fixed by various things
[12:03] <nenolod> [reed], please please let the world know in the firefox3 press release that you had the guy responsible for that leak shot
[12:03] <[reed]> lol
[12:03] <nenolod> "we don't want to talk about that guy. we sort of arranged an accident for him after that 500mb per hour leak."

[12:04] <nenolod> seriously, my views on firefox2, xulrunner 1.8, and all of it, is mostly unprintable
[12:05] <nenolod> i don't blame debian for rebranding firefox
[12:05] <[reed]> lol
[12:05] <nenolod> at least then they could go fix crappy code without being bothered
[12:05] <nenolod> "you can't call this firefox2. it's actually /good/"
[12:05] <[reed]> they didn't, though
[12:05] <[reed]> they just made a large mess
[12:05]  * Ubulette agree
[12:05] <[reed]> I've read their "patch"
[12:05] <nenolod> the idea was in the right spot!
[12:05] <[reed]> it's a huge mess
[12:06] <[reed]> anyway, Firefox2 is behind us
[12:06] <[reed]> look to the future!
[12:06] <[reed]> :)
[12:07] <nenolod> i think mozcorp should apologise to the world for firefox2
[12:07] <nenolod> you know, something along the lines of "We're sorry about that. We really should have done some QA or something. It won't happen again."
[12:07] <[reed]> I can definitely tell you perf/leaks wasn't as huge of a thing in Fx2 time as it is now
[12:07] <armin76> [reed]: do you like http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/ssl.png vs http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/ssl1.png ? :)
[12:08] <[reed]> it's huge now
[12:08] <[reed]> (time and effort put into preventing perf regressions and stopping leaks)
[12:08] <[reed]> armin76: the first
[12:08] <[reed]> :)
[12:08] <nenolod> i remember firefox 1.0
[12:08] <nenolod> it was good
[12:08] <nenolod> it didn't leak .. much.
[12:08] <armin76> lol
[12:08] <[reed]> nenolod: no, NS4 was good
[12:08] <[reed]> :p
[12:09] <nenolod> [reed], hell no
[12:09] <nenolod> [reed], wait
[12:09] <DarkMageZ> at the time it was only important to show internet explorer up. not be the highest quality product possible.
[12:09] <nenolod> WAIT.
[12:09] <nenolod> hoooold it.
[12:09] <armin76> [reed]: i mean...do you like the second? :) because its what happens when you build ff against xulrunner
[12:09] <[reed]> armin76: heh, file a bug
[12:09] <[reed]> that should be fixed
[12:09] <[reed]> like, asap
[12:09] <[reed]> make sure you aren't causing it first
[12:09]  * armin76 files a bug against Ubulette
[12:09] <[reed]> then file it against us :)
[12:09] <armin76> i am not, same on ubuntu :P
 it gets it from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/dom/locales/en-US/chrome/netErrorApp.dtd instead of http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla/source/browser/locales/en-US/chrome/overrides/netError.dtd
[12:11] <armin76> that's from yesterday
[12:11] <armin76> Ubulette: did you look into it?
[12:12] <[reed]> you all should be pulling the browser netError
[12:12] <[reed]> not the dom one
[12:12] <Ubulette> armin76, no, i didn't.
[12:13] <Ubulette> armin76, why do you want to file a bug against me ?
[12:13] <Ubulette> what did i do ? ;)
[12:13] <armin76> nothing
[12:13] <armin76> that's why :P
[12:14] <armin76> [reed]: so where i file it?
[12:14] <[reed]> armin76: how are you building?
[12:14] <[reed]> what patches are you using
[12:14] <[reed]> and what's your .mozconfig look like?
[12:15] <Ubulette> lol. on that flow of questions, i'm leaving for the w-e
[12:15]  * nenolod files a bug report against whoever was responsible for firefox2 being such crap
[12:15] <armin76> [reed]: dunno, ask Ubulette :P
[12:16] <Ubulette> just libxul should be enough
[12:16] <Ubulette> (and you'll answer it's not supported)
[12:16] <nenolod> [reed], i was thinking .. maybe you should concentrate on netscape3 code excellence level instead of netscape4
[12:17] <nenolod> netscape4 is where they added all the crap that nobody had use for (calendaring and friends)
[12:18] <Ubulette> you're describing sunbird and seamonkey ;)
[12:18] <Ubulette> ok, leaving for good now
[12:18] <Ubulette> cu
[12:19] <armin76> bye
[12:19] <[reed]> it's 6:20am
[12:19]  * [reed] goes to bed
[12:19] <armin76> bye
[12:29]  * armin76 stabs Ubulette and asac
[12:29] <armin76> you guys broke ff3 on hardy on sparc :P
[12:29] <armin76> armin@bender:~$ firefox-3.0
[12:29] <armin76> *NOTICE* No previous firefox profile found, starting with a fresh one
[12:29] <armin76> Bus error
[12:29] <armin76> armin@bender:~$
[14:50] <bobb13> hi
[14:50] <bobb13> anyone can help with firefox - ubuntu?
[19:17] <Volans> Hi asac, I have a question about licenses for firefox addons, can you grant me 5 minutes of your time?
[19:40] <Volans> I go to launch, maybe I came back later, bye
[20:18] <armin76> omg, he's going to do a launch!


[12:15] <Kilos> o/
[15:08] <teward> ddstreet: mapreri: FT job just put me in a mandatory meeting today that conflicts with today's Backporters meeting, any chance we can last minute reschedule?  (the BIG BOSS put me in the meeting, I can't reject it)
[15:09] <ddstreet> teward i actually got a mtg scheduled on top of it too, i was planning on half-paying attention in my other mtg...it would work out great for me if we reschedule :)
[15:09] <mapreri> teward: I'd be fine, I'm also doing a light firefighting here (that, however, I'd hope to finish by then)
[15:09] <teward> looks like ddstreet wants to reschedule too so i'd say reschedule.
[15:10] <ddstreet> awesome, i'll reschedule; should we try for later this week? or just skip to next week or week after?
[15:10] <teward> i'd say skip to next week - the rest of this week is hellish with my work schedule
[15:10] <mapreri> next week next time would clash with another meeting for me
[15:10] <teward> we can do *any* time next week though
[15:10] <teward> call it a non-standard meeting
[15:10] <teward> or we can skip to the week after, I'm OK with either
[15:10] <ddstreet> i'm fine either way as well
[15:11] <ddstreet> if it's easiest to just skip this one and shoot for 2 weeks from now, that's fine with me
[15:11] <mapreri> I'd "just" need to find time to give my comments on the new wiki page u.u
[15:11] <mapreri> besides that, I'd be happy with any other time
[15:12] <ddstreet> let's skip this and just plan on 2 weeks from today then
[15:12] <teward> that works
[15:12] <ddstreet> cool, i'll schedule the next one then, thanks!
[15:12] <mapreri> let's just make a mental effort to possibly do "something" and report via mail in the meantime :3
[15:13] <mapreri> and thank you!
[15:13] <ddstreet> yes definitely - i'm updating the wiki and help.u.c pages today/now based on last mtg's discussion, so later today or tomorrow they should be ready for you guys to review
[15:13] <ddstreet> and i'll read and reply to the ML message you sent too :)
[15:14] <ddstreet> thanks! o/
[16:14] <ddstreet> for anyone expecting the ubuntu-backporters meeting, we had to skip it this week, next one is scheduled for 2 weeks from now
[16:15] <ddstreet> as discussed in backscroll above