[03:41] <bashfulrobot> if tsimonq2 just linked it... seems not. :-) I know he is trying ot push it forward.
[04:07] <tsimonq2> bashfulrobot: Depends on what you mean by that; I'm stepping down.
[04:07] <tsimonq2> bashfulrobot: I've lost motivation and I feel like I'm burned out, and I thought that it's been in a state of uncertainty for long enough.
[04:08] <bashfulrobot> tsimonq2 ah! I didn't realise that
[04:08] <bashfulrobot> Last we chatted you were trying to ramp up.
[04:08] <bashfulrobot> my bad!
[04:09] <bashfulrobot> Too many things on hte plate
[04:09] <tsimonq2> Not that, I've just lost motivation for it in general.
[04:09] <bashfulrobot> happens for sure
[04:10] <bashfulrobot> projects are way more motivating and fun if the drive and interest is there
[04:16] <tsimonq2> Right
[04:16] <tsimonq2> People are welcome to continue it if they want ;)
[04:16] <bashfulrobot> I read the release and saw that it is up for grabs


[12:46] <jbicha> Trevinho: what happened with https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3138 ? can we rebuild (for gnome-desktop3 transition) and publish?


[03:53] <c_smith> bkerensa, I have a question regarding desktop gfx cards if I may ask.
[03:54] <c_smith> or is there a place I could ask about whether Nvidia or ATI are more recommended?
[05:04] <tgm4883> c_smith, traditionally, nVidia
[05:29] <c_smith> tgm4883, thanks
[05:30] <c_smith> now to install Precise.
[05:31] <c_smith> going to format even my /home partition to get a clean slate.


[00:00] <Riddell> dhillon-v10: do you know anything about security and PHP?
[00:00] <dhillon-v10> Riddell, php yes, security depends :)
[00:04] <Riddell> dhillon-v10: hmm well launchpad is down so I can't find the details currently
[00:06] <dhillon-v10> Riddell, okay :) well edge seems to be fine here and working faster than usual
[00:10] <nixternal> Riddell: I have experience developing drupal modules
[00:11] <dhillon-v10> nixternal, hi :)
[00:11] <nixternal> howdy
[00:12] <Riddell> "
[00:12] <dhillon-v10> nixternal, sorry I couldn't finish my docs in due time, just busy with school, will finish by tuesday
[00:12] <Riddell> Couloir Slideshow "
[00:12] <ryanakca> I can find you two a link to the source if you want
[00:12] <Riddell> "$caption and the JS display of $file name are not escaped, which could lead to XSS when file names are not trusted (fixing this should be trivial, but will likely break the display of offending images, so instead of filtering, I would recommend just dropping from the list any filenames that do not match their escaped text)."
[00:12] <Riddell> that's the feedback we got
[00:12] <dhillon-v10> ryanakca, sure :)
[00:13] <ryanakca> http://blazingwolf.com/drupal/couloir_slideshow.zip and http://ftp.drupal.org/files/projects/couloir_slideshow-5.x-1.7.tar.gz and the two blurbs
[00:13] <ryanakca> the css and js folders from the zip file need to be copied into the couloir_slideshow folder from the tarball
[00:13] <ryanakca> s/and the two blurbs//
[00:15] <nixternal> ryanakca: why use the couloir one? the regular drupal slideshow is a) pretty good, and most importantly, b) updated
[00:16] <Quintasan> Riddell: the upgrade was so flawless I want to cry :)
[00:16] <ryanakca> nixternal: Please link
[00:16] <nixternal> oh, make go googling will you :p
[00:16] <nixternal> http://drupal.org/project/slideshow
[00:16] <ryanakca> nixternal: We're still on Drupal 5.13
[00:16] <nixternal> that was easy
[00:17] <nixternal> slideshow will work with it
[00:17] <nixternal> NOTE: The Drupal 5 version will not receive new features. It will however get security fixes if necessary until Drupal 7 is released.
[00:18] <ryanakca> nixternal: I don't remember it having a block (if I remember correctly, I last tried a pile of them a while back)
[00:18] <nixternal> ahh
[00:19] <nixternal> I would just use a little bit of ajax and create a block for it
[00:19] <ryanakca> s/,/.../
[00:19] <ryanakca> nixternal: Feel like writing that little bit of ajax? I've never used it
[00:19] <ryanakca> (AJAX)
[00:19] <nixternal> do we link to ajax js or mootools at all?
[00:20] <ryanakca> nixternal: we have access to mootools
[00:20] <nixternal> http://www.google.com/uds/solutions/slideshow/index.html  <- there you go actually
[00:20] <nixternal> ahh, ok mootools
[00:20] <nixternal> is it already linked though in the header?
[00:20] <ryanakca> nixternal: At the moment it isn't included (<!--<script type="text/javascript" src="/themes/kubuntu-theme-v2/mootools.v1.00.js"></script>--!> in the source), but it is in the theme directory
[00:21] <nixternal> groovy
[00:21] <dhillon-v10> nixternal, so I guess you are going to take care of that :)
[00:21] <nixternal> new Slideshow('show', ['1.jpg', '2.jpg', '3.jpg'], { controller: true, hu: 'images/' });
[00:21] <dhillon-v10> * the drupal module
[00:21] <nixternal> there is the code for mootools to do a slideshow :)
[00:22] <Riddell> Quintasan: please cry onto https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging
[00:22] <Riddell> at the bottom
[00:22] <ryanakca> nixternal: Awesome. Will it work with v1.00 ?
[00:23] <nixternal> hrmm
[00:23] <nixternal> I don't know
[00:23]  * ryanakca still has 25 minutes before 4.4 RC finishes downloading
[00:23]  * ryanakca tests
[00:23] <nixternal> can we use at least 1.2?
[00:23] <nixternal> wtf are we restricted to old stuff?
[00:24] <ryanakca> nixternal: Because each upgrade gets to undergo a long, long, long audit by Canonical's security team.
[00:25] <nixternal> more than likely it will not work
[00:25] <nixternal> as it seems 1.0 has no support now for 2 years?
[00:25] <nixternal> 1.1 is the minimum supposedly
[00:25] <nixternal> why not just us static HTML then, and do everything with css hacks :p
[00:27] <nixternal> ryanakca: it seems that ubuntu.com uses yui3 library, I think we should be able to easily use that instead
[00:29] <ryanakca> nixternal: the above mootools slideshow is an addon to mootools.
[00:30] <ryanakca> nixternal: http://freshcutsd.com/yui-slideshow/
[00:34] <nixternal> looks pretty nice
[00:35] <ryanakca> nixternal: No licensing on it though :/
[00:35] <JontheEchidna> whee: http://www.kde.org/info/4.3.90.php#binary
[00:36]  * Quintasan hands cookies and vodka to JontheEchidna
[00:37] <JontheEchidna> a bit young for vodka yet ;-)
[00:37] <nixternal> I'm not, give it to me :)
[00:37] <Quintasan> hell no
[00:37] <Quintasan> :P
[00:37] <nixternal> we can share then?
[00:37] <Quintasan> better now :P
[00:37] <nixternal> just give me some damn vodka!!! hurry, I am starting to itch :p
[00:38] <nixternal> I hate our PPAs
[00:38] <nixternal> why? because I am confused right now
[00:38]  * Quintasan pours some vodka for nixternal
[00:38] <nixternal> we have KOffice2 in backports with wv2 package which is great
[00:38] <nixternal> bad thing is, koffice2 will not work with 4.4*
[00:39] <nixternal> so, I am building koffice2 with a dep on the backports ppa for wv2 and the beta backports ppa for libkdcraw8
[00:39] <nixternal> wtf am I going to put this when it is done?
[00:39] <nixternal> because in backports, it is 4.3.4 on the kde front
[00:40] <Riddell> Nightrose, markey: is there an amarok 2.2.2 tar?
[00:40] <Nightrose> Riddell: yes on ktown
[00:41] <Riddell> hmm, I seem to have missed that
[00:41] <Riddell> Nightrose: when is release due?
[00:41] <Nightrose> monday late evening
[00:41] <Riddell> ok
[00:41] <JontheEchidna> nixternal: obviously we need a new stable-backports-that-need-beta ppa
[00:41] <nixternal> damn, just saw an upload on ktown for koffice 2.1.1, but that isn't getting released until next week according to pkgr
[00:42] <nixternal> JontheEchidna: I was thinking similar actually
[00:42] <JontheEchidna> :P
[00:42] <Riddell> nixternal: I never bother with release protocol for koffice, if there's a tar we can upload it
[00:42] <nixternal> or ppas based on version
[00:42] <nixternal> Riddell: I am going to build it, but I am building it against libkdcraw8 instead of 7
[00:42] <nixternal> I guess I could always build it in my ppa and then copy it
[00:44] <nixternal> or, we can add a koffice2 ppa :p
[00:48] <nixternal> I notice we haven't packaged the translations for koffice2 as well...any reason behind that?
[00:50] <Riddell> nixternal: on the todo list along with replacing koffice 1 with 2
[00:50] <nixternal> ahh, ok...i was just looking at the ppa
[00:54] <nixternal> grrr, double grrr
[01:04]  * ScottK tries to pong _Groo_, but he's not here.
[01:11] <ScottK> Riddell: Help! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu1/+build/1438608/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-armel.kdelibs_4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-3ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[01:13] <Riddell> ScottK: libtool segfaulting doesn't sound easy to fix
[01:13] <Riddell> NCommander: help!
[01:13] <ScottK> Particularly since it's kdelibs embedded copy of libtool and not the system one.
[01:14]  * ScottK is glad he saw NCommander re-commit to all of Main building on armel recently.
[01:15] <ScottK> Riddell: The good news is that packages that were suddenly FTBFS with the previous revision of kdelibs build with this one.
[01:15] <Riddell> KDE 3 kdelibs will move to universe anyway, I'm not sure I'd care much about it
[01:24] <nixternal> hrmm, koffice in bzr is a bit nuts...i think with all of the changes that were made, it shouldn't have been left unreleased, or at least unfinished...the current changes don't build anyways, plus they are older than the version in the repos
[01:25] <dhillon-v10> nixternal, just finished another doc. for support about to push it
[01:25] <nixternal> groovy
[01:27] <nixternal> wishlist: launchpad, get rid of karma please!
[01:32] <ryanakca> Riddell: Upgrade went smoothly. Should nepomuk recommend virtuoso-{drivers,server} ?
[01:32] <Riddell> soprano probably should
[01:32] <JontheEchidna> soprano-daemon would be the correct package to add such dependencies, imo
[01:32] <nixternal> JontheEchidna: I was thinking, maybe a PPA for dependencies like wv2 and such, that doesn't depend on kdelibs or such...that would make it a bit easier
[01:33] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: kde-l10n going into kubuntu-ppa/beta now
[01:33] <nixternal> that way there we could have koffice in backports that builds against 4.3.4 and one in experimental that builds against 4.4*
[01:33] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: think I can move over the other packages?
[01:33] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4-rc-1
[01:34] <ScottK> Because we don't have enough PPAs already?
[01:34]  * nixternal goes to update to rc1...brb
[01:35] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: I'm behind the times
[01:35] <JontheEchidna> ;-)
[01:35] <ryanakca> Also, staring strigi indexation from the Nepomuk/Strigi config app (not sure what it is in English, in French: "Rechercher sur le bureau; Configuration du serveur Nepomuk / Strigi") without virtuoso installed caused 15 identical windows saying "Nepomuk Indexing Disabled" to pop up.
[01:36] <JontheEchidna> the nepomuk/akonadi stack is much to verbose in general, imo
[01:36] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: that story missed how to add the archive, and there's no context for the "ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta" line at the bottom
[01:37] <ryanakca> ... *and* they refuse to close from a right click the window's entry in the task manager and select close. I have to bring the window up and click OK, repeat with the next one, and on and on and on.
[01:37] <Riddell> "kde-l10n-bg_4.3.90-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1.dsc: format '3.0 (quilt)' is not permitted in karmic"  darn
[01:39] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: ok, I'll add some more instructions. I modeled it after the beta announcement that never got published, which only gave the ppa url, so I thought that the lack of instructions might have been intentional. Guess it was just incomplete ;-)
[01:40] <ryanakca> Where should I report bugs? Upstream KDE?
[01:40] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: hmm, we should sort our PPA story template to have what it needs
[01:41] <JontheEchidna> ryanakca: that's preferrable, yes
[01:41] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: it should link to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:43] <JontheEchidna> Ok, updated
[01:48] <txwikinger> ubuntuone breaks my kde on the mac
[01:51] <Riddell> hugs to JontheEchidna for doing RC 1
[01:51]  * Riddell snoozes
[01:51]  * JontheEchidna feels hugged :)
[02:02] <NCommander> Riddell, *cries*
[02:02]  * NCommander cries hard
[02:04] <txwikinger> NCommander: Riddell probably sleeps
[02:05] <NCommander> he does?
[02:06] <txwikinger> Is 2am in Scotland
[02:06] <ScottK> More likely he saw that satellite photo of Great Britain completely white that was on BBC the other day and thought "great time for a canoe".
[02:06] <txwikinger> ScottK: Put some Huskeys in fornt of the canoe and you have a treat
[02:06] <ScottK> ;-)
[02:11]  * txwikinger thinks McNabb needs to run a bit more
[02:12] <maco> ScottK: nah he was whinging to me the other day that he couldn't canoe because the canal was frozen and couldn't jog because the sidewalks were frozen and couldn't swim because the pools close for the holidays
[02:12] <maco> thoen again, could be cabogganing...
[02:13] <txwikinger> Well.. if the canal is frozen you can skate on it
[02:13] <maco> depends how thick the ice is though
[02:13] <txwikinger> should be good enough
[02:14] <maco> yeah i guess if it was thin he'd just break the ice and canoe like he did last week
[02:15]  * txwikinger needs to geet some crosscountry skis
[02:16]  * txwikinger wonders where all the snow is... last year we had a lot more snow
[02:16] <txwikinger> ah I remember in UK and Europe
[03:11] <JontheEchidna> yay, mesa fix built on i386
[03:13] <JontheEchidna> published too
[03:13] <daskreech> Whoot
[03:13]  * daskreech hugs JontheEchidna
[03:13]  * JontheEchidna didn't do anything :)
[03:15] <daskreech> I didn't say I hugged you for anything :)
[03:16] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I already started retrying stuff.
[03:24] <nixternal> ScottK: did you break mesa?
[03:24] <ScottK> nixternal: I did not.
[03:25] <ScottK> Our beloved X maintainers broke it.
[03:25] <nixternal> sneaky koffice devs ripped out krita docs, which wasn't in a changelog :)  found that out after upping to a PPA...funny thin is amd64 and lpia built without any problems, but i386 died on the krita docs, but neither amd64 nor lpia built the koffice-doc-html-kde4 package
[03:25] <nixternal> tselliot or bryce?
[03:26] <nixternal> I need to pick on somebody, and they are both fun to poke fun at
[03:26] <ScottK> I didn't assign specific blame, but I think bryce is on a rotation, so I'd pick tseliot.
[03:26] <nixternal> hahaha
[03:28] <nixternal> it is sad, I think more money is spent on cialis and viagra commercials than what is spent on cancer and aids cures
[03:28] <nixternal> i just had cialis, viagra, and extenz commercials within the past 30 minutes on tv
[03:28] <nixternal> I want to punch that little smiling guy...he gets on my nerves
[03:30] <ScottK> nixternal: Survey says tseliot: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mesa/7.6.1~rc3-1ubuntu2
[03:32] <nixternal> muhahaha
[03:32] <daskreech> nixternal: I love his wife
[03:32] <dhillon-v10> nixternal, lol punch him
[03:33]  * ScottK recalls a conversation his wife had with the eldest daughter recently when she was so upset with someone at school, she said she was going to punch the other girl.
[03:34] <ScottK> "Dear, you're 18 now, it's not just a fight, it's assault and battery."
[03:37] <nixternal> bah, it's only a misdameanor if the other person presses charges
[03:37] <dhillon-v10> ScottK, :)
[03:37] <daskreech> Assault is a misdemeanor?
[03:38] <nixternal> it is actually simple battery
[03:38] <nixternal> unless of course she stomps a mudhole in the other person, then they will go for assault
[03:39] <nixternal> when I was in school, it was better to fight inside the school instead of going outside...inside you wouldn't be arrested just suspended, outside you would be both arrested and suspended
[03:39] <dhillon-v10> nixternal, that's actually smart thinking
[03:40] <nixternal> I always found it best to fight on the monday before winter or spring breaks...that way there you got 3 weeks off
[03:40] <daskreech> People thought in school?
[03:40] <nixternal> did I say though?
[03:40] <nixternal> had me confused for a second
[03:41] <nixternal> my senior year the principle caught on, and made me come to school every day for 8 hours of detention during spring break
[03:52] <ScottK> ;-)
[04:54] <JontheEchidna> kubuntu-devs don't have the shiny retry buttons for Main packages they can upload to anyways :(
[05:10] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: That's a bug then.
[05:10] <ScottK> You should be able to retry any package you can upload.
[05:10] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: What package?
[05:12] <JontheEchidna> plasma-addons, for one
[05:12] <JontheEchidna> would that be a soyuz bug or a launchpad bug?
[05:12]  * ScottK looks
[05:13] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I'd guess soyuz.
[05:24] <JontheEchidna> bug 505385 if anybody is interested in following it
[07:13] <nixternal> I have koffice 2.1.1 for karmic in my ppa...I have it build against libdcraw8 which is 4.4 rc1...should I just put it in the beta backports ppa and then repackage it to build against libdcraw7 and put it in the backports ppa?
[07:13] <nixternal> we will have it in 2 locations, but one works with 4.4 and one works with 4.3.4
[07:17] <ejat> +1 nixternal :)
[07:22] <nixternal> JontheEchidna: approve my ppa membership please
[07:23] <nixternal> would be nice if kubuntu-members was a member of ~kubuntu-ppa
[07:24] <nixternal> at least kubuntu-devel
[07:57] <nixternal> Riddell: if you wake up first, I joined ~kubuntu-ppa but need to be approved. Wouldn't it make sense to at least add ~kubuntu-dev?
[10:44] <Mamarok> OK, we have a problem here:
[10:45] <Mamarok> Somebody using Gnome wants to try Amarok 2.2.2 beta without installing KDE 4.4 RC 1
[10:45] <Mamarok> and since I guess (and hope) you did build Amarok 2.2.2 beta gainst KDE 4.3.x and not KDE 4.4 we have a problem here
[10:46] <Mamarok> how does he get the KDE 4.3.3 or 4.3.4 libs needed by Amarok without pulling in the KDE 4.4. RC 1 versions?
[10:46] <Mamarok> I assume he needs to download the deb files, right?
[10:49] <tsimpson> add the repository, install amarok, remove the repository?
[10:50] <Mamarok> well, he needs the libs from KDE 4.3.4, is it for sure not going to install KDE 4.4?
[10:50] <Mamarok> maybe I just didn't have enough coffee yet
[10:51] <Mamarok> the most important question is to know if Amarok 2.2.2 beta is build against KDE 4.3.x, then it should work, right?
[10:51] <tsimpson> if it's built against 4.3.x, then it should work
[10:52] <Mamarok> OK, will check that, I very much hope so
[10:53] <Mamarok> but as it is in the Beat PPA, I fear the worst
[10:53] <Mamarok> we recommend KDE 4.3.2, and 2.2.1 was build against 4.3.3 already...
[10:55] <tsimpson> yeah, <IP_ADDRESS> is built requires >= 4:4.3.80
[11:05] <Mamarok> *headbang*
[11:05] <Mamarok> who on earth had this totall stupid idea to build Amarok against KDE 4.4 neta?
[11:05] <Mamarok> this is crazy :(
[11:06] <Mamarok> *beta
[11:06] <Mamarok> we depend on Qt 4.5, and please do build Amarok against that, *not* Qt 4.6
[11:06] <tsimpson> Jonathan Riddell  (2009-12-22) ;)
[11:06] <Mamarok> who is not around today I guess..,
[11:07] <tsimpson> it's probably more to do with that it was built in that PPA, rather than explicitly built against 4.4
[11:08] <Mamarok> well, it is just wrong
[11:15] <Riddell> Mamarok: I'm afraid we only have so many PPAs, people complain and get confused by the number we have anyway
[11:15] <Riddell> Mamarok: but why shouldn't amarok be build against qt 4.6?  in lucid that's what'll happen
[11:17] <Mamarok> well, Lucid is not out yet, but 2.2.2 final needs to be built against Qt 4.5, there are so many bugs in Qt 4.6 it is pure hell
[11:17] <Mamarok> for Karmic
[11:18] <Mamarok> Riddell: I don't think Amarok should have been in that PPA for start, currently people are on Karmic
[11:18] <Riddell> 2.2.2 final will go in the backports PPA (or indeed backports proper) where it'll have qt 4.5
[11:18] <Mamarok> good, just to make sure we don't have bug reports galore because of Qt 4.6
[11:18] <Mamarok> which is already hell
[11:19] <Riddell> that is the current version of qt, and KDE will be released with qt 4.6 by the end of the month so that's what is going to be used in a lot of places
[11:19] <Mamarok> yeah, unfortunately, we will be drowning in Qt 4.6 related bug reports, rejoice!
[11:23] <Mamarok> Riddell: sorry for my wording earlier, I was just not happy at all when I found out the 4.6 dependency, it is causing problems all over
[11:24] <Mamarok> and by the time Lucid is out we will have Amarok 2.2.3 released anyway
[11:28] <Mamarok> oh, and how do people who have installed the beta version go back to Qt 4.5 for 2.2.2 final?
[11:28] <Mamarok> reinstalling I guess...
[11:28] <Riddell> no easy way to do that
[11:31] <Mamarok> well, there we will have a problem, then, at least good to know the reason for it
[11:34] <Mamarok> what would be the easiest way to solve that?
[11:35] <Riddell> the kubuntu.org news is pretty clear that they all the betas come together
[11:36] <Riddell> apt-get remove libqtcore4; remove beta PPA, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:37] <Mamarok> OK, will prepare a sticky forum post for that, then :)
[11:37] <Mamarok> thanks a lot
[12:30] <neversfelde> what is the mail with subject "A new settings file for the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>mailbox" about?
[12:30] <neversfelde> looks like Spam and my spamassassin does not like it too :)
[12:43] <Riddell> neversfelde: probably spam then
[12:47] <neversfelde> Riddell: ok, so there was no change of the mailbox settings. I do not know what happens, when clicking the link, but probably this is a security issue
[12:54] <Riddell> it's spam, everyone gets it, quite a lot of it
[12:58] <ryanakca> For those interested, http://jshaver.com/bin/kubuntu-910-review/
[13:45] <Riddell>  "Great Job Kubuntu and KDE Teams!" sweet
[14:47] <ryanakca> Riddell: Aye, I linked to it from the reviews and he accepted to be our "User of the Moment" for a while once the sysadmins pull the theme. He also said he was interested in helping out, so I've forwarded him here and to the ML.
[14:48] <ryanakca> s@reviews@http://www.kubuntu.org/reviews@
[14:49] <Riddell> lovely
[14:50] <maco> skype integration with kopete?
[14:50] <JontheEchidna> moin
[14:50]  * ryanakca shrugs
[14:50] <maco> someone *may* have just given me a reason to switch from pidgin
[14:51] <JontheEchidna> I think it's only skype text chat at the moment
[14:51] <Daskreech> maco: Integration is a strong word
[14:51] <Daskreech> It's awrapper IE you need to have skype installed and running
[14:52] <ryanakca> Googling shows http://extragear.kde.org/apps/kopete%20skype/ ... but it also says that it is no longer being developed because of incompatibility issues
[14:52] <Daskreech> but then you can treat skype as if it's a kopete protocol
[14:52] <maco> Daskreech: oh
[14:52] <maco> i thought maybe i didnt need to have it running :(
[14:53] <ryanakca> Is anybody else experiencing plasma-desktop with >50% cpu usage since upgrading to RC?
[15:13] <ryanakca> Also, could someone apply http://ryanak.ca/~ryan/soprano.diff to the soprano package please?
[15:55] <Daskreech> maco: yeah i thought as well but I have grown to quite like it
[16:14] <JontheEchidna> kdebase-workspace needs retried
[16:20] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: done
[16:29] <JontheEchidna> thanks
[16:33] <JontheEchidna> ugh, mesa still busted
[16:40] <Daskreech> What's the deal with Mesa?
[16:46] <JontheEchidna> Moved libGl.so to another directory, the linkers can't find it so nothing can link against it
[16:47] <ScottK> The #ubuntu-x people have a solution that requires making changes to every single package that builds against mesa.
[16:48] <ScottK> I'ts been suggested they go try again.
[16:48] <JontheEchidna> :/
[16:50] <Riddell> oh how things have changed, this is what the entire breezy cycle was like
[16:50] <JontheEchidna> that would involve carrying patches for half the packages in the archive
[16:50] <JontheEchidna> do not want
[16:53] <Daskreech> ScottK: oh not as as in rebuilding? as in patching every single codebase?
[16:53] <ScottK> Daskreech: Yes.
[16:53] <Daskreech> ha
[17:05] <ScottK> Looks like 4.3.90 is a built as it can get until mesa gets sorted (on all archs)
[17:10] <al> where was libGL moved to?
[17:11] <ryanakca> Forgive my ignorance, but why wouldn't a symlink from the old location to the new fix it?
[17:12] <al> was thinking the same
[17:12] <al> esp. since it's usualy dpkg-diverted anyways
[17:13] <ScottK> al: They are trying to switch to using update-alternatives instead of a dpkg-divert.
[17:13] <ScottK> (or something like that)
[17:13] <ScottK> Thre are a number of possibilities, none of them great.
[17:13] <ScottK> Whine in #ubuntu-x for details.
[17:13] <al> well, makes sense, kind of
[17:13] <al> but then again i don't switch my video hardware constantly
[17:14] <ScottK> We're just the victim here.
[17:14]  * ScottK doesn't care beyone he wants KDE stuff to build without having to make changes to every singe package in the archive that builds against mesa.
[17:14] <al> since i'm not using *ubuntu atm, i don't care so much ;)
[17:14] <ScottK> OK.
[17:15] <ScottK> So you switched to BSD?
[17:15] <al> i noticed a significant difference between my slow kubuntu and the faster gentoo flavor i'm using atm
[17:15] <ScottK> I see.
[17:15] <al> nope, couldn't be bothered to change the filesystem
[17:16] <al> kubuntu used a newer x.org with the new radeon driver that used EXA (sp?) 2d acceleration
[17:16] <al> where my gentoo's still at the old method (XAA ?)
[17:17] <al> anyway, all the rendering work is done by libpixman's pixman_fill_sse2() and libxaa's XAAMoveDWORDS()
[17:17] <ScottK> It's uxa in Karmic
[17:17] <ScottK> (I think)
[17:18] <al> while kubuntu's method caused a lot more mem(cpy|move)s
[17:18]  * ryanakca will pick near instant KDE installs over compiling for a couple of days any day of the week, even if it means a small speed difference when running it. But that's just me :)
[17:18] <al> haven't tried reverting kubuntu's driver version to the old method yet
[17:19] <al> ryanakca: i'd agree
[17:19] <ScottK> If you come up with something that would be potentially suitable for the archive, please let us know.
[17:19] <al> but kubuntu is really *that* slow on this hardware
[17:20] <al> i'm still running it on the office machine though
[17:20] <al> works like a charm there
[17:21] <ryanakca> ScottK: bangarang is ready to get uploaded to Debian, I'm just waiting for someone to sponsor it. Bangarang 1.0 should be released some time this week I believe.
[17:23] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: I noticed you did the last upload to krecipes to fix a ftbfs. Were you planning on merging the latest debian upload?
[17:29] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: No.  I'm pretty much off merges right now.  Feel free to grab it.
[17:32] <JontheEchidna> When mesa is finally fixed, I have a kdeplasma-addons upload I'd like to do in lieu of a rebuild
[17:36] <JontheEchidna> oh cool, we can sync krecipes now
[18:27] <neversfelde> Riddell: I had a look at choqok alpha, seems that there is no way to add new accounts at the moment. I did not talk to upstream yet, but I think we should not use it before this problem is solved, especially for a LTS.
[18:42] <Riddell> neversfelde: ok, thanks for looking into that
[18:42] <neversfelde> Riddell: I'll ask upstream, if they get it fixed till April
[18:53] <nixternal> neversfelde: are they still working on choqok? I have noticed that development was either stalled or very slow about a month ago...tis the reason I went to twirssi for socializing...fits into irssi quite nice :)
[18:54] <neversfelde> nixternal: mtux, the lead developer has to absolve military service, i think it might not be fun in Iran. I noticed some dents about new plugins, but I guess the developement is slow.
[18:57] <Daskreech> Plus the time that they stopped ssh out of IRan
[18:59] <neversfelde> yes
[19:04] <nixternal> wow, that is crazy, didn't know all of that
[19:04] <Daskreech> nixternal: join identi.ca :-P
[19:05] <Daskreech> It's hte new blog :)
[20:10] <nixternal>                                                                                felipe_
[20:10] <nixternal> 12:04:11              >>><EMAIL_ADDRESS>                                                                                flacoste
[20:10] <nixternal> 12:05:48              ~   yofel_ is now yofel                                                                                freeflying
[20:14] <nixternal> wtf
[20:15] <yofel> middle click paste used by mistake?
[20:15] <nixternal> I guess so
[20:15] <nixternal> sorry about that
[20:15] <yofel> np
[20:15] <nixternal> I wasn't even paying attention to yakuake...I was messing around in browsers, so my fingers must have hit something
[20:16] <nixternal> thankfully I didn't highlight my pr0n list :p
[20:26] <Daskreech> echo fatbottomedgirls >> ~/.secretpasswordbackupfile
[20:26] <Daskreech> Whoops middle click paste error :-p
[20:27] <crimsun> I bet you have queen songs for all your passphrases
[20:27] <Daskreech> no
[20:28] <Daskreech> one is Iarethechampions
[20:28] <nixternal> good ol' queen :p
[20:28] <nixternal> freddy ftw!
[20:28] <nixternal> nobody has been able to sing like that guy
[20:30] <Daskreech> Despite PS3 saying otherwise
[20:35] <crimsun> hmm
[20:35] <crimsun> I presume it's intentional that ~ubuntu-core-dev is not a member of ~kubuntu-members?
[20:37] <jussi01> crimsun: but its a member of ubuntu members, yes?
[20:37]  * jussi01 notes its ~*ubuntu*-core-dev
[20:38] <crimsun> jussi01: I'm trying to figure out how to push a bug fix into lp:~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu
[20:38] <ScottK> crimsun: IIRC, we just add someone like you when they ask.
[20:38] <jussi01> yeah, thats what I was about to say
[20:39] <jussi01> ScottK: meantime you could probably push crimsun's bug fix, no?
[20:40] <ScottK> jussi01: So could you.
[20:40] <ScottK> crimsun: If you want  to push a branch somewhere I'll merge it while the bureacracy gets figured out.
[20:43] <crimsun> ok
[20:43] <crimsun> nixternal: hi, is there any reason why kdm.upstart isn't "mostly" synced with its gdm counterpart?
[20:44] <nixternal> dunno, haven't looked at it since I created it originally...it has been changed since then by others
[20:44] <ScottK> Back later.
[20:45] <jussi01> crimsun: actually, if youve the time, it could be good for me to learn how to do this push thing.
[20:46]  * jussi01 hasnt touched such items for a very long time
[20:47] <crimsun> sure, one sec
[20:47] <crimsun> I'll do the minimal fix first and look more closely at resyncing kdm.upstart later
[20:47] <jussi01> ok :)
[20:55] <crimsun> jussi01: https://code.launchpad.net/~crimsun/kdebase-workspace/remove_hal_dep_from_kdm_upstart/+merge/17106
[20:56] <crimsun> sorry, https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kdebase-workspace/ubuntu/+merges is probably more appropriate
[20:58] <jussi01> ok
[20:58] <jussi01> looking now
[20:59] <jussi01> ok, Im going to have to trust you. :D is there a particular commit message I should put?
[21:00] <jussi01> crimsun:^
[21:00] <crimsun> jussi01: I don't know offhand if there is protocol for Kubuntu devs for such
[21:01] <crimsun> FWIW, this change was tested by yofel
[21:01] <ScottK> Usually I put the debian/changelog entry as the commit message, but that's just me.
[21:01] <jussi01> ok, /me is trying to fgure out how to actually do this
[21:01] <crimsun> yeah, I use debcommit
[21:02] <jussi01> ScottK: crimsun care to help me here? :D
[21:03] <jussi01> Ive added the commit message, what now?
[21:03] <nixternal> bzr push that badboy
[21:04] <maco> if you put something in debian/changelog then do "debcommit" it fills in your commit message for you
[21:04] <nixternal> maco: ahh good pointer, I didn't know that
[21:04] <nixternal> then again, I just bzr very simplisticly as I am still so used to svn
[21:05] <jussi01> ok, I think Im going to have to let someone else sort this as Im probably not set up to do this... Im just looking at the LP webpage.... :/
[21:06] <ScottK> OK.  I'll do it.
[21:10] <nixternal> Nightrose: is there an agenda for the kde-edu meeting this week?
[21:11] <ScottK> crimsun: Merged.  Thank you.
[21:12] <crimsun> ScottK: thanks/yw
[21:12] <Nightrose> nixternal: discussing the results of the survey we did, plan the IRL meeting in switzerland, discuss future video content that could be done, see what new people turn up
[21:12] <Nightrose> and then whatever else people come up with
[21:15] <nixternal> groovy, I am going to try and make it...I passed the info on the rest in Edubuntu as well
[21:16] <Nightrose> perfect
[21:16] <Nightrose> thx
[22:29] <ulysses__> bug 505653
[22:49] <ofirk> I read that it isn't safe to upgrade to 4,4 RC1 on Lucid but is it safe on Karmic?
[22:52] <Riddell> ofirk: right
[22:53] <ofirk> Riddell: so is it safe or not?
[22:53] <Riddell> ulysses__: that's waiting on virtuoso getting main inclusion
[22:55] <ryanakca> ofirk: It is safe on Karmic
[22:56] <ofirk> ryanakca: thanks :)
[22:56] <ulysses__> Riddell: so should I care for it, or not? (I think I can make a debdiff for that if it's neccessary)
[22:58] <ryanakca> ulysses__: I made one earlier, http://ryanak.ca/~ryan/soprano.diff ... however, that was for virtuoso-drivers/virtuoso-server ...
[22:59] <Riddell> ulysses__: can't do anything until pitti approves this https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtuoso-opensource/+bug/503774
[22:59] <ulysses__> Riddell: ok
[23:28] <nixternal> ScottK: maybe you can answer this for me, as I am to lazy to really research it right now, and I can't remmeber off hand, but is the archive reorg going to fix issues with us having to MIR this or that, ie. we won't have to have something in main and what not for builds?
[23:28] <nixternal> shoot, I sent out a big email and forgot one thing...and now I can't remember that one thing I forgot
[23:31] <Riddell> nixternal: no archive reorg has happened and isn't related to main inclusion
[23:36] <claydoh> nixternal: you forgot the part about cookies and tea for all :)
[23:36] <maco> cookies and tea?
[23:37] <claydoh> maco: it might bring in more to the party
[23:37] <claydoh> I'll buy
[23:37] <maco> claydoh: i was wondering where they were :P
[23:40] <claydoh> I have licorice-spice, lemon-ginger, some green tea of some sort, and  peppermint, but no cookies


[06:00]  * bittin is listening to this weeks podcast now, and has installed this weekends 20 Ubuntu and kernel updates
[13:12] <ItzSwirlz> yesterday i opened a pr to fix in nemo (hopefully) a crash where an object and its pointer was being freed at the wrong time
[13:13] <ItzSwirlz> g_free (details); g_list_free (details->current_selection);
[13:13] <ItzSwirlz> would freeing the details->current_selection after freeing details actually count as a UAF


[00:07] <jrwren> BTW, my fav feature of systemd-resolved is that you can specify the port for DNS. It doesn't have to be 53.
[00:08] <jrwren> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J6-3l3hCm0
[16:54] <jrwren> TIL: https://github.com/ckolivas/lrzip
[17:13] <cmaloney> great, it's arc, lharc, arj, and zip all over again. :-/
[17:26] <jrwren> yup


[01:30] <ScottK> Anyone who can test the updated Soprano in the -updates PPA?
[01:30] <ScottK> Preferably with 4.7.3?
[10:20] <agateau> hi! Can anyone review my massif-visualizer on revu? ( http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/massif-visualizer )
[14:42] <ScottK> agateau: Looking.
[14:42] <agateau> ScottK: thanks!
[14:42] <ScottK> Can anyone test the updated Soprano in the updates PPA on Oneiric.
[15:02] <ScottK> Done.
[15:25] <ScottK> apachelogger_: Can you upload the l10n for 4.7.3 to precise (I'll upload it for oneiric-proposed, but I need it in precise first).
[15:26] <ScottK> yofel: ^^^
[15:26] <ScottK> ?
[15:28] <yofel> uhm, can do, if no changes are needed for precise
[15:29] <ScottK> Should be fine (just with the right version #
[15:29] <ScottK> )
[15:30] <ScottK> (ubuntu1 instead of ubuntu0.1)
[15:30] <CIA-88> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common] Philip Muškovac * 110 * debian/ (changelog config) New upstream release (svn: 1261159, type: stable)
[15:31] <yofel> generating...
[15:32] <ScottK> Thanks.
[15:33] <ScottK> yofel: Can you do the oneiric-proposed upload too?  Just reference (LP: #901283) in the debian/changelog entry.
[15:34] <ScottK> (I've never learned how to drive the l10n script and this isn't the time)
[15:35] <CIA-88> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common-oneiric] Philip Muškovac * 112 * debian/changelog New upstream release (svn: 1261159, type: stable) LP: #901283
[15:35] <CIA-88> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common-oneiric] Philip Muškovac * 113 * debian/changelog bump date
[15:36] <CIA-88> [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common] Philip Muškovac * 111 * debian/changelog bump date
[15:38] <ScottK> yofel: There are several packages in the PPA that are still 4.7.2.  Is that just ran out of time/energy or are there some that you left at 4.7.2 due to issues?
[15:39] <yofel> ScottK: those have 0 diff from 4.7.2, so I didn't bother taking the time to update them
[15:39] <ScottK> yofel: Excellent reason.  Thanks.
[16:20] <agateau> ScottK: ping
[16:21] <Riddell> tsk, daily image from today not working.  or my usb pen isn't
[16:26] <agateau> Riddell: hey, how is it going?
[16:26] <Riddell> agateau: ca va, taking things easy
[16:26] <Riddell> almost run out of irn bru though
[16:26] <agateau> Riddell: that's a serious issue :)
[16:27] <Riddell> irn bru is what is keeping me alive
[16:28]  * agateau makes a mental note to bring some in Budapest
[16:28] <Riddell> i don't think I'll make it to budapest, best if I take it easy and minimise travel
[16:28] <agateau> oh ok
[16:30] <agateau> Riddell: ScottK reviewed my massif-visualizer package, and mentions it is missing full copies of some license files, am I allowed to add them as a "patch"?
[16:31] <agateau> or should I ask upstream to provide a new tarball?
[16:32] <Riddell> agateau: you can only make debian/copyright as clear as possible and ask upstream to ensure they include them in future
[16:33] <Riddell> since you have git commit to upstream you can tidy upstream for them
[16:33] <agateau> :)
[16:33] <Riddell> which is the best for everyone
[16:34] <agateau> yes, the copyright headers of the embedded copy of kdchart mention license files which are not in the embedded copy, I guess I should fix that upstream
[16:34] <agateau> no debian/copyright is going to help me here
[16:36] <Riddell> mm, yes
[16:37] <ScottK> agateau: pong
[16:38] <agateau> ScottK: was coming back to you regarding your comments on my massif-visualizer package, but then decided to annoy Riddell instead :)
[16:38] <ScottK> OK.
[16:39] <agateau> through, I have one question left unanswered: what does "--with kde" do
[16:39] <agateau> ?
[16:40] <ScottK> It uses the KDE build options in pkg-kde-tools
[16:40] <Riddell> uses /usr/share/perl5/Debian/Debhelper/Buildsystem/kde.pm I think
[16:41] <ScottK> That's it.
[16:41] <agateau> ok, I see
[16:42] <agateau> thanks
[16:43] <agateau> ScottK: regarding the fact that massif-visualizer embeds a copy of libkdchart: I would like to get the package as it is uploaded first, then look at packaging libkdchart (it is not packaged right now) and revisit the package later, does it sound good to you?
[16:43] <ScottK> OK.  I'd only block upload on that if the library was already packaged.
[16:43] <debfx> Looks like we'll loose the firefox kde integration this cycle. So much for the plan to use it as default ...
[16:44] <ScottK> debfx: Is it an Ubuntu person unwilling to support it the problem or something larger?
[16:44] <Riddell> debfx: where's it going?
[16:46] <agateau> ScottK: great, I am going to fix the license issues and upload another version then
[16:46] <debfx> chrisccoulson doesn't want to support the patches for the LTS
[16:47] <debfx> and he wants the patches in the firefox daily builds which breaks too often due to code changes
[16:51] <debfx> I can't deny that the patches are a bit of a mess but what bugs me most is the lack of communication about it
[17:26] <ScottK> debfx: Sounds like something that should be discussed on ubuntu-devel.
[17:26] <ScottK> (the ML)
[19:18] <apachelogger_> yofel: did you l10n?
[19:20] <yofel> yep, precise is STILL uploading though... for some reason dput hangs a few mins when uploading a file...
[19:21] <Riddell> agateau: konversation message-indicator/0001-Adds-support-for-Message-Indicator.diff doesn't work in precise
[19:21] <Riddell> pkg_check_modules(INDICATEQT indicate-qt>=0.2.2) doesn't work
[21:58] <ScottK> yofel: Are you running oneiric still?
[22:00] <yofel> I have oneiric systems - but the PC I'm on right now runs precise
[22:00] <ScottK> yofel: Can you test soprano from the PPA on oneiric?
[22:01] <ScottK> I'm on travel this week and there's no way I'm installing test packages on the one laptop I have with me.
[22:01] <yofel> not today, but tomorrow sure
[22:01] <ScottK> Thanks.
[23:23] <claydoh> this sounds like good news : http://cgbdx.wordpress.com/2011/12/07/is-kmail-still-being-developed/


[11:54] <paride> @pilot in
[16:05] <paride> @pilot out
[16:06] <dbungert> @pilot in
[19:08] <tsimonq2> https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu-dev-tools/commit/?id=2f396fe54956c85e0f0e62891f29dc7bab7d110b adds support for VCS detection on pull-lp-source, displaying the exact same message `apt source` does.
[19:08] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Commit 2f396fe in ubuntu-dev-tools "When using pull-*-source to grab a package which already has a defined Vcs- field, display the exact same warning message `apt source` does."
[19:08] <tsimonq2> (cc juliank) I often wonder if adding support for e.g. Ubuntu-specific VCSes is worth the effort.
[19:09] <tsimonq2> Anyway, I've uploaded that to unstable, if anyone thinks there's justification for pulling it into Mantic, JFDI :)
[19:09] <juliank> Well hopefully it's not worth it for long
[19:10] <juliank> And we all use git-ubuntu staging branches :D
[19:11] <tsimonq2> I mean, it would still cover the case where Debian has their own VCS, right? On Debian that could be "Hey, clone from this Salsa repo," on Ubuntu it could be "hey you're using the wrong command." :P
[19:12] <tsimonq2> (Despite the really good impressions I have of git-ubuntu so far, it could take a bit to move to it "de facto." I mean, it's taken how long to move from Bazaar to Git?)
[19:13]  * tsimonq2 shrugs, some UX to think about I guess
[20:14] <dbungert> @pilot out
[21:19] <kanashiro> does anyone know if in the autopkgtest infrastructure there is any restriction to access the docker registry? I am getting this error multiple times:
[21:19] <kanashiro> ERROR: Error response from daemon: Get "https://registry-1.docker.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)
[21:20] <kanashiro> hum, actually, this address is returning 404
[21:34] <ahasenack> it's https://registry-1.docker.io/v2/ actually
[21:34] <ahasenack> and that returns json
[21:34] <ahasenack> try setting the proxy?
[21:34] <ahasenack> https_proxy=http://squid.internal:3128/
[22:10] <kanashiro> I'll try to set the proxy variable
[22:11] <kanashiro> locally this test works fine
[22:20] <bdmurray> If you are connected to the Canonical VPN you can use the squid.internal proxy server e.g. `--env='http_proxy=http://squid.internal:3128' --env='https_proxy=http://squid.internal:3128'`
[22:21] <kanashiro> bdmurray thanks for the hint
[22:22] <bdmurray> kanashiro: incidentally what package are you testing?
[22:22] <kanashiro> it is docker-buildx
[22:24] <bdmurray> kanashiro: the top of an autopkgtest log also has the no_proxy config<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[22:25] <kanashiro> ok, I'll set all of them locally connected to the VPN to see if I can reproduce the issue


[00:58] <Ludite> does anyone have ubuntuone working in gnome3/natty??
[10:51] <fagan> So quiet :D
[11:01] <nigelb> fagan: Must be a rouwdy crowd there ;)
[11:03] <fagan> nigelb: well we are all here so its quiet because of that
[11:04] <fagan> but we are talking a lot more so it makes up for it
[11:04] <nigelb> fagan: yeah, that's what I meant by "rowdy crowd" there ;)
[11:06] <fagan> ha yeah
[12:56] <duanedesign> morning all
[13:11] <beuno> hi duanedesign!
[13:11] <beuno> we're all sprinting this week
[13:12] <beuno> so it'll be pretty quiet on our end
[13:12] <duanedesign> hey beuno
[13:12] <duanedesign> beuno: where you all sprinting at...London?
[13:13] <beuno> duanedesign, yes, London
[13:17] <duanedesign> beuno: i had a question about U1 mobile... let me see if i can put my hands on it real quick. If you are not in a hurry
[13:19] <duanedesign> beuno: ahh, never mind it was about support for a Samsung wave
[13:19] <duanedesign> I thought it was a phone that ran Android
[17:20] <duanedesign> is anyone aware of any server issues that were happening yesterday?
[17:29] <beuno> duanedesign, yes, we had some DB issues while the whole team was flying to the sprint
[17:34] <duanedesign> beuno: ok had a thread on the forum that lead me to believe that might be the case
[17:34] <duanedesign> thank you sir
[21:17] <threeve> iCloud sounds cool but so far no mention of streaming, just "syncing".


[11:47] <urso_> Is true the ubuntu founder was the first african go to the space?
[11:47] <mike24> pelo, i have it loaded and put in that command
[11:47] <PurpZeY> uhm.
[11:47] <Pelo> urso_,  african's in space ?
[11:47] <mike24> what do u want me to see?
[11:47] <Speaker2Software> urso: One of the first space tourists, yes
[11:47] <urso_> pelo yes ...
[11:47] <Pelo> urso_,  actualy it is , he bought it way on a russian flight
[11:48] <HOT> s there a catch all command to undo a batch of synaptec updates in one go?
[11:48] <urso_> but go to the space right? the first african in the space ...
[11:48] <mike24> pelo, i rant the dedo gedit command, now what
[11:48] <Pelo> mike24,  I need to see that file,   so you need to find a way to upload it to the paste bin
[11:48] <chapium> pelo, adjusting hinting for some reason does not affect fonts in firefo
[11:48] <chapium> x
[11:48] <luisbg>  I have 3d acceleration and my graphics card working, just installed compiz but when I boot it nothing seams to happen (except some verbose that looks like it works in terminal) it replaces metacity and that's all, no 3d effects
[11:48] <Pelo> chapium, restart FF
[11:49] <PurpZeY> !effects | luisbg
[11:49] <Speaker2Software> Gotta do my homework. Pidgin, out. <etx>
[11:49] <ubotu> luisbg: For help with Beryl or Compiz desktop effects, please go to #ubuntu-effects
[11:49] <chapium> pelo, thx
[11:49] <magnetron> Pelo: i find nothing about time format in a gconf-editor search
[11:49] <Pelo> chapium,  also try   menu > system > admin > restricted drivers , see if there is something better for your card
[11:49] <mike24> pelo, what is pastebin, this file is long
[11:50] <magnetron> !paste | mike
[11:50] <PurpZeY> !paste | mike24
[11:50] <ubotu> mike: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:50] <ubotu> mike24: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:50] <magnetron> sorry
[11:50] <Pelo> magnetron, that was my best suggestion,  try looking it up in the forum
[11:50] <nikin> hy.... how can i batch rename a series of files using the command line?
[11:50] <Pelo> !pastebin | mike24
[11:50] <jrib> nikin: 'rename'
[11:50] <Pelo> ubotu, dead ?
[11:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dead ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:50] <nikin> jrib.... :D ty
[11:50] <Pelo> !pastebin | mike24
[11:50] <PurpZeY> Pelo: We just hit that command for mike24.
[11:50] <ubotu> mike24: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:51] <Pelo> hoelk, didn'T notice, thanks PurpZeY
[11:51] <sebforgold> nikin, mv should also work
[11:51] <MrXorg> How do I save a file in nano?
[11:52] <jrib> MrXorg: ctrl-o
[11:52] <Ausylo> Hey guys, I get a black screen after my Ubuntu GUI boot screen loads. I wanted to know how to fix this issue. Also, before I get the GUI boot screen, I notice that I have text at the top saying that I have PCI BUG #81.
[11:52] <Comrade-Sergei> all my KDE apps seem to be very crash prone latly, sometimes they complain they cant find klauncher, what may be the problem?
[11:52] <Pelo> Comrade-Sergei,  reinstall klauncher
[11:52] <luisbg> everytime I boot the computer I have to introduce a command to set the minimum fan speed, where do you recommend me to put this command so it's automatically done every time I boot?
[11:53] <asdf> can anyone tell me how to run a terminal command when I log off?
[11:53] <Comrade-Sergei> Pelo, its in the repos?
[11:53] <georgy28> asdf, : ctrl+alt+f1
[11:53] <Pelo> luisbg, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty   check in there
[11:53] <Sam330|away|> Hw long will it take for me to recieve my Ubuntu CD's if I order them today, do you think?
[11:53] <Gnea> asdf: throw it in ~/.bash_logout
[11:53] <Pelo> Comrade-Sergei,  look for yourself
[11:53] <asdf> georgy28: no i mean I want to run a command in the terminal when I log off
[11:53] <Ausylo> Hey guys, I get a black screen after my Ubuntu GUI boot screen loads. I wanted to know how to fix this issue. Also, before I get the GUI boot screen, I notice that I have text at the top saying that I have PCI BUG #81.
[11:53] <PurpZeY> Sam330|away|: 4-6 weeks I'm told.
[11:54] <Sam330|away|> oh ok
[11:54] <asdf> Gnea: that's what I thought, but I can't seem to get it to execute
[11:54] <Gnea> asdf: what did you put there?
[11:54] <georgy28> asdf: oh, ok
[11:54] <Pelo> Ausylo,  look up the error msg in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.com
[11:54] <asdf> Gnea: I just copied two commands cd home\username\backup on one line and then an rsync command on the second
[11:55] <asdf> Gnea, georgy28: is there a certain syntax I need to use?
[11:55] <duelboot> I have a Westinghouse 37" monitor...I finally got a 1920x1080 resolution, but it still appears big...anyway to decrease the icons and applications on desktop (opening webpage still requires a full screen browser)...help please
[11:55] <Gnea> asdf: it should be: cd /home/username/backup && rsync ...
[11:55] <Gnea> asdf: *nix doesn't use \ in paths
[11:55] <JuanJose> Hi
[11:55] <JuanJose> =)
[11:55] <asdf> Gnea: I've already got this command in that file: if [ "$SHLVL" = 1 ] ; then
[11:55] <asdf>     [ -x /usr/bin/clear_console ]  && /usr/bin/clear_console -q
[11:55] <asdf> fi
[11:55] <usr13> what CD burning software should I use?
[11:55] <usr13> is good to use?
[11:56] <PG> hi
[11:56] <duelboot> usr13, k3b
[11:56] <asdf> Gnea: do I need to throw it in that loop or just at the end?
[11:56] <PG> yes k3b is a good prog
[11:56] <ompaul> usr13, gnomebaker in gnome or k3b in kde
[11:56] <Ind[y] > I have (for testing reasons) tried to open a file with many different applications, so when I right click to a file of that type, I get a huge menu. How can I remove all the "open with <foo>" options?
[11:56] <duelboot> ompaul, usr13 you can still use k3b in gnome...just have to load kde libs
[11:56] <usr13> gnomebaker ok, tnx
[11:56] <Gnea> asdf: and && is good because it won't run the rsync unless the cd command executes properly
[11:56] <CaBlGuY> !xine
[11:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:57] <ompaul> duelboot, I am aware of this, but to keep with the paradigm :-)
[11:57] <PG> hey i can see the installed wlan sniffer (airsnort) in my applakation bar
[11:57] <Gnea> asdf: i would put it before the if statement
[11:57] <PG> i can ai mean
[11:57] <asdf> okay
[11:57] <b0ha> what player do i need for mp3?
[11:57] <PG> i cant see that
[11:57] <b0ha> or codec?
[11:57] <PurpZeY> !mp3 | b0ha
[11:57] <ubotu> b0ha: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:57] <duelboot> paradigms are made to be broken ompaul :)  using linux is breaking the paradigm...lol
[11:57] <Ind[y] > I have (for testing reasons) tried to open a file with many different applications, so when I right click to a file of that type, I get a huge menu. How can I remove all the "open with <foo>" options?
[11:57] <CaBlGuY> b0ha,  xmms
[11:57] <PG> use rhythmplayer
[11:57] <mwe> !w32codecs | b0ha
[11:57] <ubotu> b0ha: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[11:57] <PG> i love it
[11:57] <ompaul> duelboot, it is unless you call it GNU/Linux :)
[11:58] <Pirate_Hunter> hello everyone im back was afk
[11:58] <b0ha> ok tnx guys
[11:58] <duelboot> true, so true ...
[11:58] <CaBlGuY> !xmms b0ha
[11:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xmms b0ha - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:58] <PG> some girls here
[11:58] <Pirate_Hunter> !pastebin
[11:58] <mon^rch> hey... can I defrag a linux partition from windows?
[11:58] <asdf> Gnea: is there something wrong with this command?  It's not working...$ rsync -arvuz /home/asdf/May2007
[11:58] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:58] <duelboot> I have a Westinghouse 37" monitor...I finally got a 1920x1080 resolution, but it still appears big...anyway to decrease the icons and applications on desktop (opening webpage still requires a full screen browser)...help please...ompaul, do you know?
[11:58] <Gnea> !ask > B2Ka
[11:58] <asdf> Gnea:I run that after navigating to my directory
[11:59] <asdf> Gnea: I'll keep playing around, thanks for the help
[11:59] <Min464> WOW! Free phone calls -  http://callfree.point-serv.com/en/
[12:00] <duelboot> min464, go away
[12:00] <ompaul> duelboot, it would, you need a video card that would work with that, and I don't know anything in that soace
[12:00] <duelboot> ahhhh...and I'm on an older computer so that's probably why ompaul
[12:00] <Ind[y] > I have (for testing reasons) tried to open a file with many different applications, so when I right click to a file of that type, I get a huge menu. How can I remove all the "open with <foo>" options?
[12:00] <PurpZeY> duelboot: Just a suggestion, hit up #ubuntu-effects if crdbl is around he is a monster with that sort of stuff.
[12:00] <bvc310> #sex
[12:00] <Pirate_Hunter> this is annoying pastebin is not letting me post, saying im spamming when its my first post today. what cna I do?
[12:00] <duelboot> will do PurpZeY thx...on my way


[19:24] <xivulon> evand bug #188460 patch is included
[19:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 188460 in wubi "Device.map is missing in loopinstallations (bindmounted boot)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188460


[04:55] <Viper550> I;m just wondering, has Ubuntu ever offered Debian's graphical installer on the alternate CD?
[05:24] <wcchandler> I want to jump on the ubuntu development bandwagon.  Is there a wiki page or a newbie howto to jump into contributing?  I come from a hardware tester stand point (been doing it professionally for 6 months) so testing is more up my alley but I would also like to help port deb packages if possible.
[05:25] <arand> !dev | wcchandler
[05:26] <wcchandler> arand: much love, thanks :)
[08:00] <Daniel0108> hi
[08:00] <Daniel0108> who's at the UDS?
[08:10] <abhinav-> dholbach, I heard that we can keep track of the happenings of UDS remotely , is there an IRC channel ?
[08:10] <dholbach> abhinav-, there's loads of them
[08:11] <broder> abhinav-: start with #ubuntu-uds and http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/
[08:11] <broder> and http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/
[08:11] <dholbach> thanks broder
[08:11] <broder> np
[08:11] <abhinav-> thanks dholbach , broder :)
[08:12] <dholbach> (I wasn't quick enough to find the links)
[08:17] <abhinav-> vlc-multimedia plugin is crashing :-/
[08:20] <pitti> cjwatson: yes, dropping python-{rsvg,cairo} was the right thing, thanks!
[08:21] <pitti> cjwatson: nonexisting-file> seems like a side effect, I'll have a look
[08:22] <pitti> mdke: yes, the next -base refresh will have gnome help xml from -updates
[08:23] <mdke> pitti: excellent, thanks. So basically just need to aim to get each SRU done and pushed to -updates before langpacks are exported
[08:23] <pitti> right
[08:24] <mdke> great
[09:15] <alkisg> Will a linux-image-generic-lts-backport-NATTY package be made available in lucid-updates? (currently we can get it from kernel-ppa)
[10:24] <Q-FUNK> howdy!  could someone please perform a source upload of apparmor?  it needs a rebuild for perl 5.12
[10:27] <cjwatson> Q-FUNK: yes, I'm tracking the entire Perl transition and doing mass uploads
[10:27] <cjwatson> the only reason I haven't done apparmor yet is that I want to grab kees and check about the state of its bzr branch
[10:27] <cjwatson> and it was the weekend with UDS travel
[10:28] <cjwatson> http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/transitions/perl.html
[10:31] <Q-FUNK> cjwatson: oh yes, UDS. forgot about that as I skipped it.
[10:32] <kees> cjwatson: "done" apparmor??
[10:32] <kees> cjwatson: ah, rebuild
[10:33] <kees> cjwatson: I can do an upload if you need?
[10:33] <Q-FUNK> yes
[10:33] <Q-FUNK> it's one of the last few packages that haven't been rebuilt for perl 5.12
[10:34] <kees> Q-FUNK: okay, give me a few minutes...
[10:35] <Q-FUNK> kees: cheers! :)
[10:37] <kees> cjwatson, Q-FUNK: actually, you can sync the package from Debian.
[10:38] <cjwatson> kees: OK, cool, I'll do a sync
[10:38] <cjwatson> kees: can I do it in your name?
[10:38] <kees> cjwatson: yup!
[10:39] <cjwatson> kees,Q-FUNK: done
[10:49] <Q-FUNK> cjwatson: thanks!
[11:42] <ogra_> slangasek, LOL, you made my day with http://i.imgur.com/usftZ.png
[11:43] <cody-somerville> lmao
[11:45] <Chipzz> lol :)
[13:43] <ogra_> RAOF, how much beer does it take to get nouveau support for tegra2 arm boards ?
[13:44] <RAOF> ogra_: Oh, dear.
[13:44] <ogra_> hehe
[13:44] <geser> ogra_: don't forget http://xkcd.com/323/ :)
[13:45] <ogra_> RAOF, its obviously a GeForce ... just connected to a weird bus it seems
[13:45] <RAOF> So, from memory the *guess* is that tegra2 GPU has a significantly different architecture to any of the nouveau-supported GPUs.
[13:46] <RAOF> There's also the problem that I don't think that nvidia provides a binary tegra2 driver for linux, right?
[13:46] <ogra_> there is one for android
[13:47] <RAOF> Hm.
[13:47] <ogra_> (which also works on ubuntu if you use nvidias kernel etc)
[13:47] <ogra_> (and theor X)
[13:47] <ogra_> *their
[13:47] <RAOF> So, you'd need to build an mmiotrace-enabled android kernel and then trace their module.
[13:48] <RAOF> That'd be a pre-requisite for pretty much any support.  Either that, or docs from nvidia about how to poke it.  I'm not holding my breath for those :)
[13:49] <dholbach> can somebody review https://code.launchpad.net/~dholbach/ubuntu-dev-tools/bitesize/+merge/60370 please?
[13:51] <tumbleweed> dholbach: when the patch appears...
[13:52] <dholbach> tumbleweed, it's there :)
[13:52] <RAOF> ogra_: So, in short, I think that the beer would be required to be funneled elsewhere in order to get someone to be assigned a couple of months to actually work on it :)
[13:54] <ogra_> RAOF, well, but your note above should at least get us a dump with the needed info for a start
[13:54] <ogra_> i'll try to at least get that, so someone intrested can pick up
[13:55] <RAOF> I don't think anyone in nouveau upstream is currently particularly interested, but it's not inconcievable that someone would come along and be interested.
[14:00] <sebner> dholbach: we'll see each other on friday \o/
[14:01] <dholbach> sebner, awesome
[14:02] <sebner> dholbach: finally :D , /me hopes to meet all the other heroes like ScottK, pitti ,..... (could go on for an hour) too :D
[14:10] <cjwatson> lamont: is there a reason most of the porter boxes (with the exception of porter-armel) have no oneiric chroots, or should I just file an RT?
[14:10] <cjwatson> (my oneiric chroot is on my external hard disk, which is annoying to haul out at UDS ...)
[14:20] <lamont> cjwatson: because it wasn't bootstrapping well at the point where I went to create them.
[14:20] <lamont> I'll create them shortly, feel free to throw something at RT
[14:36] <psusi> what is the TZ over there in budapest?
[14:37] <tumbleweed> psusi: UTC+2
[14:37] <dholbach> tumbleweed, resubmitted - thanks
[14:37] <geser> psusi: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=50
[14:39] <psusi> oh my, so it is already 3:40 pm there?
[14:40] <tumbleweed> yup
[16:15] <hyperair> slangasek: that image you posted on ubuntu-devel is win.
[16:15]  * hyperair ditches emacs and starts using microsoft word to do his debian packaging work
[16:16] <broder> haha. i didn't look at it before now :)
[16:17] <hyperair> =p
[16:33] <tseliot> chrisccoulson: can you ask Jorge to check IRC, please? A user is looking for him in #ubuntu-uds
[16:33] <chrisccoulson> tseliot, his laptop is dead atm
[16:34] <tseliot> chrisccoulson: ok, thanks
[18:10] <broder> cjwatson: looks like i was imagining things. multicore vs. singlecore mksquashfs doesn't appear to have an impact on image size for the images i'm building at work. must have just affected rsync-ability
[18:53] <saimanoj> hello everyone
[20:16] <saimanoj> hi
[20:20] <killown> please FIX IT, The 'sync_supers' thread wakes up every 5 seconds  and writes back all super blocks. It keeps waking up even if there are no dirty super-blocks, http://bpaste.net/show/16089/ very annoying bug
[21:16] <killown> please developers, work to fix this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/607560 veryyyyy annoying, I don't want to change de distro again
[21:18] <ntr0py> where is the root fs mount command in initrd located?
[21:27] <equex> will there be more backports or updates done for 8.04 ? would be nice with one final ultimate 8.04.5 now that the support just officially went out, perhaps with a more recent kernel too!
[21:32] <infinity> equex: If you want newer kernels and software, you want a newer release.
[21:33] <killown> Does anyone know how to get ride of this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/607560 ?
[21:33] <infinity> equex: That said, it's only desktop support that's ended, so anything covered by the "server" seeds (and that includes kernels) will still be getting bugfixes.
[21:36] <equex> i'd basically just want a 8.04.4 with all updates since then + new kernel (if it doesnt break anything) + maybe there's bugs and annoyances that has been fixed and are ready for deployment but hasn't because 8.04 isn't cool anymore (it is, been using it since it came!)
[21:51] <killown> Hey developers Do I need switch of distro? this bug affects physically my hardware
[21:51] <killown> I know a lot peoples who has having this problem
[21:52] <Keybuk> killown: if a bug is physically affecting your hardware, that strongly implies a kernel or near-kernel bug
[21:52] <killown> I know it's a kernel related problem, but you guys should looking for another kernel version more stable or patch it soon.. its not a bug that you can just ignore
[21:52] <Keybuk> in which case it's code shared by all of the distros
[21:52] <Keybuk> you might want to try a different OS, maybe Windows or OS X
[21:53] <killown> this just won't stop to make noises em fuc* up my hd
[21:53] <killown> Keybuk, thanks, but I prefer gentoo.
[21:53] <Keybuk> killown: do you know which compiler flags fix the bug?
[21:54] <killown> Keybuk, I know that gentoo is stable enough to not have this bug
[21:54] <killown> I have gentoo stable installed on my system, so I can confirm this problem doesn't happen with gentoo
[21:55] <killown> ubuntu is great, but this bug does change my concepts about ...
[22:06] <killown> bye ubuntu...
[22:20] <andersk> cjwatson (or anyone working on the Perl 5.12 transition): net-snmp failed to rebuild, which is blocking some other packages from transitioning.  Debian already has this fixed; I filed LP bug 780149.
[23:48] <galfly> Hi fellow ubuntu developers
[23:59] <galfly> Hey ubuntu folks!
[23:59] <galfly> A novice developer needs a little insight here