[13:31] <Pici> skeeter_101: Yes, but then the open source driver would take over.  The 'ati' driver provides 3d acceleration as well.
[13:31] <jtholmes> MyWay, but, but, before doing any of that save all of /home off to an external disk, stick ...  in case any config gets altered in some unexpected way
[13:31] <khensthoth> MyWay, *some* files will need backup if you have modified them, and if you want to keep them the same. If for example you want to automount some Windows or some ntfs partition on boot, the config file is stored in / I believe. So if you want to keep this you will have to back it up.
[13:31] <Polterge|st> I will try to get any updates I can get and reboot before coming back with the pidgin prob
[13:31] <Polterge|st> if I still can't fix it I'll try a few other things
[13:31] <hbekel> Ojii: no idea what that is. you need to at least describe the symptoms of your problem
[13:31] <Warnael> yes of course
[13:31] <gabeodess> how do you make a new file?  mk filename ?
[13:31] <MyWay> ah ok khensthoth, anyway i deleted windows finally, i think i will use it from virtualbox if i will need ;O
[13:31] <jtholmes> MyWay, /etc/fstab is the one khensthoth is talking about
[13:32] <Ojii> hbekel: i can't install the drivers (can't activate them in the Hardware Drivers), on startup i get an error about nvidia
[13:32] <skeeter_101> Pici:  thanx for the advice.......believe I will stay with 8.10..........."dont fix it if it aint broken"    LOL
[13:32] <hbekel> Ojii: "error about nvidia"? you need to tell us the error messages
[13:32] <wtv> Polterge|st left an impressive part message
[13:33] <rope> Im trying to make my SiS671 video card work in Jaunty. I donwloaded the known-to-work drivers, modified my xorg.conf but now it says "Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//sis671_drv.so"  loader failed or something like that. Can anyone help me?
[13:33] <nperry> Hey guys, just got a quick question going to reinstall ubuntu but i want to have split partions, got a 100
[13:33] <Tumie> i want to set video1 as my default webcam, how can i do that ?
[13:33] <nperry> Hey guys, just got a quick question going to reinstall ubuntu but i want to have split partions, got a 120gb how much should i have / and /home - Got 1gb ram, how much should be swap?
[13:33] <wtv> nperry: you can do that while installing
[13:34] <wtv> nperry: swap should be 1.5 gb
[13:34] <nperry> wtv, sorry pressed enter to early for some reason
[13:34] <Ojii> there's no 'downgrader' for ubuntu right?
[13:34] <thiebaude> Ojii: no
[13:34] <Ojii> hbekel: it's on startup... so i can't look at it now. it complains about configurations and I then tell it to use the 'default generic configurations'
[13:34] <mobi-sheep> gabeodess: touch gabeodess
[13:34] <gabeodess> thanks mobi-sheep
[13:35] <wtv> nperry: if you're going fully linux, then set all free space as /. home is included in /
[13:35] <hbekel> Ojii: sorry, can't help you then
[13:35] <tikka> wtv, why would someone want to do that
[13:35] <tuxFan> can you have  gnome & kde both install in the same ubuntu box
[13:35] <wtv> nperry: by going fully linux, i mean there is no windows or mac partition
[13:35] <tikka> i think an independant /home is a good idea
[13:35] <Ojii> hbekel: are errors logged somewhere?
[13:36] <hbekel> Ojii: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[13:36] <thiebaude> tuxFan: yes
[13:36] <wtv> tikka: that's what i would do i guess
[13:36] <nperry> wtv, I would prefer to have them split, in case i ever want to reinstall for any reason
[13:36] <rope> Im trying to make my SiS671 video card work in Jaunty. I donwloaded the known-to-work drivers, modified my xorg.conf but now it says "Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//sis671_drv.so"  loader failed or something like that. Can anyone help me?
[13:36] <wtv> nperry: ok then split em into two 6 gb partitions
[13:37] <wtv> *60
[13:37] <lgc> nperry, Ubuntu won't take a big share of your 120 GB, if that's what you asked. If you want Windows give it 20 0r 30 GB, some 40 GB will be more than enough for years of continuous upgrades on "/" and the rest to "/home", if you wish. The swap space is 2x as big as your ram, usually.
[13:37] <Ojii> hbekel: /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/m4e1069c6
[13:37] <Ludo> Where does Ubuntu store its dict/spellcheck files for openoffice and firefox?
[13:38] <rjharv> Ludo: i think aspell
[13:38] <rjharv> i think
[13:38] <rjharv> maybe the firefox dictionaries tho
[13:38] <rjharv> o where does it store them
[13:38] <rjharv> sorry
[13:38] <rjharv> two seconds i will search
[13:38] <joaopinto> I believe openoffices uses hunspell
[13:39] <hbekel> Ojii: no errors there, so X should work fine. although your x is configured to use the 'nv' driver (non accelerated open source driver), i guess you want the accelerated drivers from nvidia?
[13:39] <desafinado> hello folks, i use Firestarter for my security, and now it's detecting hit, does it safe? and if it doesn't maybe folks here can write what should i do to secure my ubuntu machine. thanks
[13:40] <Wolf23> helpers how can i know my dvd burner? /dev/??
[13:40] <Ojii> yes i do hbekeö
[13:40] <Ojii> *hbekel
[13:40] <hbekel> Ojii: sudo modinfo nvidia, please. does it show anything?
[13:40] <Ojii> modinfo: could not find module nvidia
[13:41] <Ojii> hbekel: "modinfo: could not find module nvidia"
[13:41] <hbekel> Ojii: then it's not installed, install it.
[13:42] <Ojii> hbekel: in synaptic I've installed almost anything starting with 'nvidia'
[13:42] <reenignEesreveR> my svn server is on 1.6 but client is 1.5 on ubuntu 8.04. I wanna upgrade to svn1.6 but neither binaries are aviable, nor i've heard that compiling is an option
[13:42] <reenignEesreveR> whats the best way to have a workaround?
[13:42] <Ojii> hbekel: what exactly do i have to install?
[13:42] <Ludo> rjharv: joaopinto: Thanks, but where does it store the dict?
[13:42] <s41f> tello
[13:42] <s41f> sniffer
[13:43] <s41f> hello
[13:43] <darkvertex> rope: look here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-sis/+bug/301958
[13:43] <Wolf23> hbekel:  how can i know my dvd burner? /dev/??
[13:43] <s41f> how tu sniff?
[13:44] <hbekel> Wolf23: usually /dev/dvdrw or /dev/sd[a-z] depending on how it's connected
[13:44] <rope> darkvertex: ok thanks
[13:44] <pippo> ciao
[13:44] <pippo> !list
[13:44] <darkvertex> rope: np
[13:44] <Wolf23> hbekel:  what should i type on terminal to see the exact one?
[13:45] <Ojii> hbekel: sudo apt-get install nvidia didn't work
[13:45] <Ojii> but i guess that'd be too easy anyway
[13:45] <rhousand> Hi, all
[13:45] <hbekel> Ojii: which card do you have?
[13:45] <jtholmes> Wolf23,  /dev/sr0  /dev/sr1  ...
[13:45] <hbekel> Wolf23: try ls -l /dev/dvd*
[13:46] <Ojii> hbekel: nVidia GeForce 8600M GT
[13:46] <TuxMan3> reading a boot , and it says the following : 'If a program removes all 5,000 files
[13:46] <TuxMan3> from a large directory, and puts a single file in that directory, the directory will still have
[13:46] <TuxMan3> space reserved for 5,000 file entries.The only way to release this space is to remove and
[13:46] <TuxMan3> re-create the directory.'
[13:46] <TuxMan3> is it true?
[13:47] <TuxMan3> for ext3
[13:47] <rhousand> I have gnome-rdp  and I prior to upgrading from 8.10 to 9.4 could use the icon under applications to open it. however now i have to run it from the terminal suing sudo. is there away around this?
[13:47] <Wolf23> hbekel:  /dev/dvd1  /dev/dvdrw1
[13:47] <Wolf23>  but no one works
[13:47] <hbekel> Ojii: nvidia-glx-180
[13:48] <Wolf23> jtholmes: i try but how i know if its sr0 on terminal?
[13:48] <Ojii> hbekel: "nvidia-glx-180 is already the newest version."
[13:48] <zamba> i need help fixing my screen resolution
[13:48] <zamba> i have a nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] card
[13:48] <jtholmes> Wolf23, wont matter if it is  /dev/srN  it will be /dev/srN everywhere
[13:48] <zamba> xrandr tells me the maximum resolution is 800x600
[13:49] <zamba> but i've had it at a higher resolution earlier
[13:49] <rjharv> !seen mjbarks
[13:49] <zamba> i have removed the /etc/X11/xorg.conf to try and get X to use the defaults
[13:49] <hbekel> Ojii: try sudo depmod -a; sudo modinfo nvidia
[13:49] <zamba> but to no avail
[13:50] <Ojii> hbekel: is that supposed to take ages?
[13:50] <hbekel> Ojii: some time
[13:50] <Ojii> ah done
[13:50] <Ojii> hbekel: still says that nvidia isn't found
[13:50] <s41f> How do use the fingerprint in ubuntu
[13:50] <naitoe> hi
[13:51] <naitoe> i come from thailand
[13:51] <s41f> hii juga
[13:51] <pepperjack> zamba: you can run X -configure to create an xorg.conf file in your home dir and then mv it to /etc/X11/.  or just sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:51] <zamba> pepperjack: ok
[13:51] <mark__> hi to all
[13:51] <mark__> r u a lnux users
[13:51] <thomasfedb> Hey, I'v got a tricky problem. It goes like this: I am running a virtualised smoothwall server under ubuntu server edition. The ubuntu box has 2 nics that will be connected to the vm. However i want to run open ssh on the box in a way so that: A) It can be access on LAN, even if vmware crashes (ie. when i need it...) B) I can access it via the internet via the smoothwall vm. How would I go about this?
[13:51] <jtholmes> Ojii, cd /lib/modules/*;  du -a |grep nvid;  see what displays for nvidia modules
[13:52] <xcdfgkjhgcv> My Wi-Fi randomly stops working.
[13:52] <mark__> wat is yer citezenship friends on chat
[13:52] <Pici> !ot | mark__
[13:52] <Ojii> jtholmes: "5968	./kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidia.ko" and "5972	./kernel/drivers/video/nvidia"
[13:52] <darkvertex> zamba: you should use nvidia-glx-96 (96.43.10-0ubuntu1) -> http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/nvidia-glx-96
[13:52] <mark__> thnx
[13:53] <zamba> darkvertex: and then just 'aptitude install nvidia-glx-96'?
[13:53] <jtholmes> Ojii, havent been following the conversation but you have one nvidia driver module present
[13:53] <zamba> pepperjack: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg just asked me questions about the keyboard and then nothing
[13:53] <mark__> chatters wat is yer citezenhip
[13:53] <jtholmes> Ojii, not sure if it is the right one or not, cant help there
[13:54] <perlsyntax> where can i find pygtk in ubuntu 8.10
[13:54] <Ojii> jtholmes: yes but i can't activate it, actually in the "Hardware Drivers" it lists two (180/173)
[13:54] <joaopinto> perlsyntax, in the repositories...
[13:54] <perlsyntax> i not sure what it is called.
[13:54] <pepperjack> zamba: is there a new file now in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[13:54] <bobstro> thomasfedb:  so you want ssh server on the host, right?
[13:54] <zamba> pepperjack: yeah, but that file didn't help
[13:54] <erUSUL> !software | perlsyntax
[13:54] <zamba> pepperjack: i tried restarting X and the same problem.. still only 800x600
[13:54] <thomasfedb> bobstro: yes, for rescuing the vmware server
[13:54] <perlsyntax> is it call python-gtk?
[13:55] <zamba> pepperjack: i'll try installing nvidia-glx-96 now
[13:55] <Blinkiz> Anyone in here that can help me with why my encrypted root volume password is not asked for at startup? (cryptsetup, luks)
[13:55] <hbekel> Ojii: lsmod | grep nvidia
[13:55] <darkvertex> zamba: good idea
[13:55] <zamba> nah
[13:55] <perlsyntax> i just update to python 2.5.4 anf i get there no pygtk.
[13:55] <bobstro> thomasfedb:  i think it will be difficult without the host "in front of" the firewall. otherwise, when vmware crashes, you lose the path.
[13:55] <erUSUL> perlsyntax: probably
[13:55] <Ojii> hbekel: no output
[13:55] <perlsyntax> odd
[13:55] <zamba> darkvertex: no avail
[13:56] <zamba> darkvertex: unless i have to reboot the entire system to get it working..?
[13:56] <hbekel> Ojii: ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko
[13:56] <perlsyntax> then why is it not woriking when it is installed.
[13:56] <darkvertex> zamba: what driver are you currently using?
[13:56] <mick02> Hey this is OT but I was wondering if someone could help with a quick PHP Apache issue. I've got php pages on my server but when I try to navigate to them I can only see the source code, not the web page that I'm looking for. Anyone able to help?
[13:56] <bobstro> thomasfedb:  one IP address externally, right?
[13:56] <zamba> darkvertex: i have no idea.. how do i check?
[13:56] <Ojii> hbekel: ls: cannot access /lib/modules/x86/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko: No such file or directory
[13:56] <perlsyntax> erUSUL, not sue why is not working.
[13:57] <erUSUL> perlsyntax: what is not working ?
[13:57] <tikka> mick02 you need to apt-get another item, i cant recall off top of my head
[13:57] <thomasfedb> bobstro: Yes, the host is connected via on nic to the modem and via annother to the hub
[13:57] <hbekel> Ojii: uname -r ???
[13:57] <rope> darkvertex: I've seen that page before, i did everything it says, installed the .deb, reconfigure xorg, but still not working :(
[13:57] <perlsyntax> my pygtk
[13:57] <zamba> darkvertex: when i try opening the display program in X i get a question if i want to use the nvidia one instead.. and the nvidia tool says that it's not activated and that i need to run nvidia-xconfig to activate it
[13:57] <bobstro> thomasfedb:  you want the smoothwall firewall to protect the ubuntu box, right?
[13:57] <thomasfedb> bobstro: that was the idea, yes
[13:57] <Ojii> hbekel: i just copied what u wrote...
[13:57] <Led_Zeppelin> I have 2 nvidia cards (1 internal, 1 externel). I have 2 monitors hooked to each of them. I would like to enable both cards but currently only 1 is active. How would I do that? I am already using the nvidia modules.
[13:58] <zamba> darkvertex: and when i run nvidia-xconfig i'm suddenly brought into low graphics mode
[13:58] <Led_Zeppelin> can anyone please help ?
[13:58] <perlsyntax> File "hello.py", line 3, in <module>   import pygtk i got this error
[13:58] <mark__> are all a filipino?
[13:58] <glitsj16> perlsyntax: i believe it's python-gtk2 you're after
[13:58] <mick02> tikka, I've already tried the installing the libapache2-mod-php4 but no joy
[13:58] <zamba> piece of c*ap
[13:58] <hbekel> Ojii: what does uname -r give?
[13:58] <thomasfedb> bobstro: So basically i want to isonate one nic for vmware only
[13:58] <perlsyntax> that what i have installed
[13:58] <thomasfedb> *ISOLATE
[13:58] <Ojii> hbekel: in what dir?
[13:58] <tikka> mick02, i see you say php4?
[13:58] <hbekel> Ojii: any
[13:58] <bobstro> thomasfedb:  well... if the firewall dies, you want the ubuntu box to still be protected. that "one nic" is for the firewall external interface, right?
[13:58] <MerlinW> hello
[13:58] <Ojii> hbekel: x86
[13:58] <mick02> Yeah, I'm using php4 for a project
[13:58] <alleykat> Led_Zeppelin, http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 can maybe help
[13:58] <tikka> mick02, as far as i am aware 4 is depreciated
[13:59] <tikka> mick02 okay
[13:59] <darkvertex> zamba: do you see nvidia-glx-96 in System->Admin->Hardware Drivers?
[13:59] <perlsyntax> i not sure why it not working.
[13:59] <thomasfedb> bobstro: That one nic is connected to the net. I want ubuntu to ignore it exept for connecting the virtual machine to the net
[13:59]  * alleykat came here to celebrate
[13:59] <perlsyntax> maybe i    need to go   back to python 2.5.2
[13:59] <hbekel> Ojii: uname -a please
[13:59] <zamba> darkvertex: no, but i see "nvidia"
[13:59] <jtholmes> hbekel, ojii has some nvidia driver i had him ls it a bit ago
[14:00] <perlsyntax> glitsj16 you think so
[14:00] <hbekel> jtholmes: yeah, but modinfo doesn't see it
[14:00] <alleykat> dual screens working with ATI!! That took 2½ full workdays of constant reboots, but damn its nice
[14:00] <Ojii> hbekel, jtholmes: uname -a outputs the same
[14:00] <Basti> hi =) ... Just Updated my 8.10 to 9.04. Now my mouse-pointer freezes a few minutes after boot. everything else is working fine. Had the same Problem with 8.10 -> deactivating powernowd helped. In 9.04 it don't work anymore.... anybody an idea to fix that?
[14:00] <neur0mancien> !vu neuro
[14:00] <jtholmes> hbekel, yeah strange
[14:00] <tikka> mick02:  /etc/apache2/mods-available/
[14:00] <glitsj16> perlsyntax: i honestly don't know
[14:00] <bobstro> thomasfedb:  except for ssh... which is the tricky part. you can just leave the ubuntu host nic unaddressed and have the smoothwall vm talk to the internet. but that doesn't help with the ssh-to-ubuntu part.
[14:00] <perlsyntax> i give up
[14:00] <tikka> mick02: in there i have php5.conf and php5.load.. perhaps yours is missing php4 equiv
[14:01] <Led_Zeppelin> alleykat, yes, I have read that.
[14:01] <hbekel> Ojii: did you reboot after your latest kernel ugrade?
[14:01] <Led_Zeppelin> the problem is X is not detected multiple cards. How do I have ubuntu detect multiple cards?
[14:01] <jtholmes> hbekel, is he prefacing his commands with  sudo
[14:01] <thomasfedb> bobstro: I have worked out how to sort the ssh. I just need to know how to make one nic fore the exclusive use of vmware.
[14:01] <Ojii> hbekel: kernel upgrade? you mean since i updated to 9.04? yea i did, several times
[14:01] <mick02> tikka, I'll check it out, I think maybe I'm missing a MIME type somewhere
[14:01] <bobstro> thomasfedb:  i used to do a lot of firewall and vmware stuff on my linux box, but took the easy out and put dd-wrt on a linksys router.
[14:02] <Caesi> hi all again :) can anyone help me with VPN clients?
[14:02] <bobstro> thomasfedb:  if you leave the ubuntu host nic unaddresses, it should work. it's a bit funky but it should work.
[14:02] <thomasfedb> bobstro: The nic is connected to the modem
[14:02] <darkvertex> zamba: maybe you haven't check "Proprietary drivers (restricted)" in Souftware Sources?
[14:02] <hbekel> jtholmes: i assumed he would; modinfo, uname, lsmod all work without, though
[14:02] <timora> sooo wtf. >.>
[14:02] <thomasfedb> bobstro: But will vmware still be able to use it?
[14:02] <hbekel> Ojii: sudo modprobe nvidia, please
[14:02] <Ojii> hbekel, jtholmes: i prefixed them with sudo when i was told
[14:03] <MerlinW> i have a small problem: after boot, the gdm stay in black - have cursor - and i need to restart it, for the x start
[14:03] <Ojii> hbekel: "FATAL: Module nvidia not found."
[14:03] <timora> scite is refusing to run in KDE. when i execute the command in a terminal it returns with "segmentation fault", however - i can sudo scite and it works just fine. scite also runs perfectly in GNOME
[14:03] <MerlinW> is have any solution for this?
[14:03] <jtholmes> ojii fine
[14:03] <glitsj16> mick02: did you enable your php (sudo a2enmod ...) ?
[14:03] <MerlinW> not big problem, just unconfortable
[14:03] <timora> any ideas why i'm getting this segmentation fault strictly as my user and only in KDE?
[14:03] <mick02> glitsj16, Yeah, I've enabled it and still nothing
[14:03] <zamba> darkvertex: yup, i have
[14:03] <hbekel> Ojii: sudo uname -a
[14:03] <Led_Zeppelin> the problem is X is not detected multiple cards. How do I have ubuntu detect multiple cards? Is there a program to do this?
[14:03] <Ojii> hbekel: x86
[14:04] <grawity> hbekel: uname doesn't need sudo
[14:04] <hbekel> grawity: i know, but uname -a shouldn't just show x86
[14:04] <MerlinW> I have a small problem: after boot, the gdm stay in black - have cursor - and i need to restart it, for the x start. Not big problem, just unconfortable. Any solution?
[14:04] <hbekel> grawity: something's relly strange there
[14:04] <grawity> hbekel: well, yeah :/
[14:04] <zamba> darkvertex: i have exactly the same problem on another computer here.. i have running 12 computers in a lab, 11 of them works just fine with X.. the last one is stuck at 800x600..
[14:04] <alleykat> uhm sry Led_Zeppelin I'm almost in every regard a total n00b myself... can you see both with lspci?
[14:05] <zamba> darkvertex: as far as i can tell identical setup
[14:05] <TarBar> How do I setup DHCP in ubuntu server manually?
[14:05] <zamba> darkvertex: no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:05] <Ojii> hbekel: but i didn't do anything else than installing stuff with synaptic etc, didn't do any of advance stuff that might break everything
[14:05] <darkvertex> zamba: they all have mx 440 card?
[14:05] <MerlinW> TarBar: /etc/network/interfaces
[14:05] <zamba> darkvertex: yes, exactly identical graphic adapters
[14:05] <jtholmes> bbiab
[14:05] <joaopinto> TarBar, you install the dhcp server package and add a /etc/network/interfaces entry for dhcp
[14:05] <LinuxApe> Printing no longer works for me since the jaunty upgrade.  constant "printer not connected" errors.
[14:05] <s41f> dfkl
[14:05] <zamba> darkvertex: so there must be something lurking behind the scenes here
[14:05] <grawity> hbekel: hmm ... unalias uname? unset uname? which uname? (just ideas)
[14:06] <MerlinW> Heey anybody?:) After boot, the gdm stay in black - have cursor - and i need to restart it, for the x start. Not big problem, just unconfortable. Any solution?
[14:06] <TarBar> ah
[14:06] <TarBar> How do Install it?
[14:06] <zamba> darkvertex: that makes one computer only run at 800x600 but the next one running happily at full resolution
[14:06] <hbekel> Ojii: 'type uname'
[14:06] <MerlinW> TarBar: sudo apt-get install dhcpd
[14:06] <Ojii> hbekel: uname is hashed (/bin/uname)
[14:06] <TarBar> MerlinW, I can't connect it to the net.
[14:07] <amazing> What is the preferred way to create a clone for backup and restoration of the hard drive? I googled this but I'm looking for a solution that clones the entire drive including all non-ext3 partitions. Does anyone have a suggestion for this? Will just tar/gzip on / do the trick? How would I restore this? Thank!
[14:07] <darkvertex> zamba: wow, then that is beyond me. sorry. maybe you shoukd copy everything under /etc/X11 from the other one?
[14:07] <TarBar> That's why I'm trying to config dhcp..
[14:07] <MerlinW> TarBar: from CD?
[14:07] <TarBar> Should I just reinstall?
[14:07] <zamba> darkvertex: is there a way i can compare two directories?
[14:07] <TarBar> lol
[14:07] <pepperjack> amazing: often just dd or tar.gz but /msg ubotu backup for more gui options
[14:07] <zamba> darkvertex: like get a md5sum for a whole directory tree?
[14:07] <MerlinW> TarBar: enable the cdrom repo in /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:07] <bobstro> thomasfedb:  it *should*, yes. you can run into odd problems with various ISP devices though. by modem, you mean DSL modem?
[14:07] <zamba> darkvertex: because i'm quite positive they're exactly the same
[14:08] <gorgonzola> hello. i have a problem with the new jaunty kernel: i had disabled the ahci module in intrepid because it produces timeouts on my hw. ahci is now built-in. how can i disable it?
[14:08] <MerlinW> anybody on my gdm problem?:D
[14:08] <pepperjack> amazing: er ubottu i mean not ubotu
[14:08] <TarBar> MerlinW: Sorry.. How do I do that?
[14:08] <amazing> pepperjack, sorry... i'm a n00b. what do you mean by /msg ubottu backup? just type that into xchat?
[14:08] <hbekel> Ojii: something is really strange with your kernel, all i can suggest is to reinstall the kernel package, reboot and check uname -a again. it should yield something like Linux box <IP_ADDRESS>-rt16 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Thu Feb 12 12:22:22 CET 2009 i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2200+ AuthenticAMD GNU/Linux
[14:09] <alleykat> yep amazin
[14:09] <darkvertex> zamba: yes, sure use md5. or you could compare it visually through mc perhaps?
[14:09] <Ali-smith> Hi all anyone able to help with a wireless card compatibility issue?
[14:09] <lewench> If I don't have postgres in my /etc how can I reinstall this? I did sudo apt-get install postgres but its not in there.
[14:09] <Ojii> hbekel: what do you mean with 'reinstall the kernel package' and if i do that do i loose my data?
[14:09] <zamba> darkvertex: just copied over the whole directory tree.. same problem
[14:09] <amazing> pepperjack, got it. thanks
[14:09] <hbekel> Ojii: uname -r should give your kernel version
[14:09] <thomasfedb> how do i configure a network interface to receive a ip via dhcp?
[14:09] <zamba> darkvertex: so it's not only /etc/X11 at play here
[14:09] <alex881> hi guys..i need help in configuring dns server
[14:09] <MerlinW> TarBar: "start"/system/administration/repositories
[14:09] <hbekel> Ojii: probably not, just reinstall the kernel package
[14:09] <TarBar> k
[14:10] <MerlinW> check the cd rom option on the bottom
[14:10] <darkvertex> zamba: different monitor type could be it. just guessing
[14:10] <zamba> darkvertex: exactly same monitor
[14:10] <Ojii> hbekel: explain 'reinstall the kernel package', what kernel package and where? (synaptic?)
[14:10] <alleykat> lewench, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostgreSQL
[14:10] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb: networkmanager should do that automatically...
[14:10] <zamba> darkvertex: the computers are by all mesurements, identical
[14:10] <thomasfedb> gorgonzola: ubuntu server edition
[14:10] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb oh, sorry :)
[14:11] <thomasfedb> gorgonzola: not your fault, i didn't specify
[14:11] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb, give me a sec, my network conf does not use nw...
[14:11] <DVDR9> anyone has Intel d210gly2 mainboard?
[14:11] <thomasfedb> gorgonzola: ok
[14:11] <DVDR9> * d201gly2
[14:12] <darkvertex> zamba: sorry, I don't think I can help. There should not be any problem then. Yet there is. Weird
[14:12] <cz_jc> hello, I'm trying to run khtmld (a simple daemon) after system start and it segfaults when ran from rc.local (but I can run it just fine under user and root). Any idea please what might be wrong ?
[14:12] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb:auto eth0
[14:12] <gorgonzola> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[14:12] <cz_jc> syslog:Apr 28 15:06:48 PikoGuestWEB06 kernel: [   38.182795] khtmld[4767]: segfault at 0 ip 00007fd853b9a7d0 sp 00007fff5c2c0528 error 4 in libc-2.8.90.so[7fd853b18000+169000]
[14:12] <thomasfedb> gorgonzola: thx
[14:12] <MerlinW> lewench, apt-get install postgresql
[14:12] <MerlinW> Ojii, whats u problem exactly?
[14:12] <MerlinW> i missed the begin
[14:12] <gorgonzola> that should go in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:12] <Ojii> MerlinW: can't activate nvidia drivers
[14:12] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb: i can paste mine in pastebin if you want
[14:12] <cz_jc> in Gentoo, putting it in /etc/conf.d/local.start (equivalent of rc.local in ubuntu) works just fine
[14:13] <lewench> MerlinW, I did that. says it has the lastest version
[14:13] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[14:13] <MerlinW> Ojii, did u enable the restricted driver in main menu/system/administration/?
[14:13] <cz_jc> any advice would be really appreciated, I'm pretty much clueless at this point
[14:13] <Ojii> MerlinW: that's exactly what doesn't work
[14:13] <Ali-smith> Anyone able to lend a hand, my graphics card cant see any networks...
[14:13] <gorgonzola> how can i disable modules that are now built in? (ie .ahci)
[14:13] <lawbreaker13> helo
[14:13] <JaneDoe> if I upgrade to 9.04 (using upgrade-manager, I think its called) does that upgrade all the apps that come with desktop or does it just upgrade the OS?
[14:13] <MerlinW> whats the message?
[14:14] <lawbreaker13> helo people
[14:14] <lawbreaker13> please help
[14:14] <thomasfedb> gorgonzola: those commands aren't working
[14:14] <Ali-smith> *wireless
[14:14] <Ojii> MerlinW: no message, just doesn't activate
[14:14] <raddy> I have couple of problems in ubuntu that prevents me from being fully productive
[14:14] <brunop> hello, i have had problem with the ssh-agent since i upgraded to Jaunty : it starts well with gnome but i have to run ssh-agent bash + ssh-add on each xterm window.. here is the debug output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/160004/
[14:14] <hbekel> MerlinW: seems he's got the nvidia.ko in /lib/modules, but modinfo doesn't see it, uname -a just gives 'x86' -> i'm clueless, never seen that before
[14:14] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb: they are not commands.
[14:14] <MerlinW> hm
[14:14] <MerlinW> laptop?
[14:14] <lawbreaker13> HHHEEEELLLLLLOOOOO
[14:14] <raddy> Can anybody help me  in resolving them?
[14:14] <Ojii> MerlinW: yes
[14:14] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb: you should speciufy that in a file
[14:14] <lawbreaker13> help me please
[14:14] <thomasfedb> gorgonzola: ok, soz. i missed one of yr messages
[14:14] <lawbreaker13> can someone help me please?
[14:14] <Myrtti> !patience | lawbreaker13
[14:14] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb: in /etc/network
[14:15] <grawity> lawbreaker13: If you tell us your problem, we might help.
[14:15] <JaneDoe> lawbreaker13: just ask your darned question
[14:15] <raddy> All of the problems related to connectivity
[14:15] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb theres a file named interfaces...
[14:15] <Myrtti> !de | lawbreaker13
[14:15] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb there you specify your network interfaces...
[14:15] <MerlinW> then u have nforce chip
[14:15] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb give me a sec, ill copy mine...
[14:15] <raddy> Ubuntu is not connecting Samba share and sftp.
[14:15] <raddy> Please help
[14:15] <MerlinW> i dont know the solution, but search for  jaunty + laptop type + nforce
[14:15] <Ojii> MerlinW: I have nVidia GeForce 8600M GT
[14:16] <raddy> Both are from different linux boxes.
[14:16] <markl> is bit torrent an option when doing apt-get?
[14:16] <MerlinW> ok, than nvidia mobility :D
[14:16] <markl> i thought i read something about that awhile ago
[14:16] <mobi-sheep> !samba | raddy
[14:16] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb: http://pastebin.com/d41930587
[14:16] <MerlinW> markl, no
[14:16] <ienorand> Ojii: What the problem? (I'm using the same card.)
[14:16] <Ojii> MerlinW: and what about laptop type? you mean brand or what?
[14:16] <gorgonzola> that's my /etc/network/interfaces
[14:16] <MerlinW> Ojii, yes
[14:17] <Ojii> ienorand: can't activate the drivers on jaunty
[14:17] <MerlinW> brand, tpye number, etc
[14:17] <thomasfedb> gorgonzola: thanks. got it
[14:17] <gorgonzola> sorry.. thomasfedb: http://pastebin.com/d41930587 <- that's my /etc/network/interfaces
[14:17] <lawbreaker13> how can I run the software from C:// on Ubuntu?
[14:17] <lwfa> how can I change the default application used for a console application
[14:17] <ienorand> Ojii: are you on 32bit?
[14:17] <Myrtti> is there a way to figure out which usb ports on a laptop are usb 1.0 and which 2.0?
[14:17] <brunop> is there a way to downgrade Jaunty->Ibex because the 9.04 is very unstable imho... ?
[14:17] <Ojii> ienorand: yes
[14:17] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb: you should always have at least the lo iface, and then your network cards, tipically eth0 for wired, eth1 for wireless, etc.
[14:17] <MerlinW> lawbreaker13, wine /media/<yourC drive>/program
[14:18] <MerlinW> bit its linux, not windows...
[14:18] <mobi-sheep> gordonjcp: wlan0 for wireless.
[14:18] <JaneDoe> if I upgrade to 9.04 (using upgrade-manager, I think its called) does that upgrade all the apps that come with desktop or does it just upgrade the OS?
[14:18] <DirtDiver> question : i installed ubuntu , and my bios settings set the sata contorrelr in ata compatible mode , if i switch to enhanced sata mode in my bios this will be ruins my current ubuntu installation ?
[14:18] <ienorand> Ojii: and do you have more than 2gb of ram?
[14:18] <Ojii> ienorand: yes why?
[14:18] <gordonjcp> mobi-sheep: hm?
[14:18] <ranf> JaneDoe, everything
[14:18] <JaneDoe> thanks ranf
[14:18] <ienorand> Ojii: Might be this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/342926
[14:18] <mobi-sheep> gordonjcp: eth0 for ethernet #0 --> wlan0 for wireless #0  --> You get the idea. :)
[14:19] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb: you should add the "dhcp" directive under the network interface you want to use dhcp (in my exzample there's only eth0), and then reload the network
[14:19] <Ojii> ienorand: i actually have exactly 2gigs of RAM
[14:19] <gordonjcp> mobi-sheep: ...?
[14:19] <MerlinW> JaneDoe, everything. upgrading Every installed packages
[14:19] <gordonjcp> mobi-sheep: why are you telling me this?
[14:19] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb: by sudo /etc/init.c/networking restart
[14:19] <ienorand> Ojii: Ok, then it might not be...
[14:19] <gorgonzola> thomasfedb: if that does not workl, then you've got a problem :)
[14:19] <Ojii> ienorand: did you manage to activate them in jaunty?
[14:19] <anderse> Upgrade to 9.04 / HAL broke my kbd/mouse..
[14:19] <raddy> The problem is connecting a samba share
[14:20] <raddy> Not in serving
[14:20] <Myrtti> gordonjcp: probably mistaking you with gorgonzola
[14:20] <ruanl> chinese?
[14:20] <raddy> sftp is not getting connected?
[14:20] <Ojii> ienorand: i do have a 64bit CPU but run 32bit ubuntu
[14:20] <mobi-sheep> gordonjcp: Wrong person.  It was for gorgonzola.
[14:20] <bobstro> thomasfedb:  i had a cable modem that would lock onto the first MAC address seen, so that might cause a problem.
[14:20] <lawbreaker13> hellllloooooooo
[14:20] <MerlinW> raddy, ps aux | grep samba ?
[14:20] <kyrovafc> nick Walnien
[14:20] <MerlinW> u can use the smb4k graphical app
[14:20] <DJones> !cn | ruanl
[14:21] <gorgonzola> mobi-sheep: ah, in my laptop, wireless has always been eth1... weird :P
[14:21] <ienorand> Ojii: Yes, I'm on an xps1530 4gb gf8600 and I use full compiz glory
[14:21] <Ojii> ienorand: no problems activating them?
[14:21] <anderse> Anyone on friedly terms with HAL?
[14:21] <gordonjcp> mobi-sheep: ah, np
[14:21] <gordonjcp> Myrtti: aha, thanks
[14:21] <gorgonzola> mobi-sheep different drivers, for sure.
[14:21] <karamella_> hi
[14:21] <gartral> i have a problem accessing my music player (device, sansa e250) i posted in forum at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7167748#post7167748http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7167748#post7167748
[14:21] <karamella_> all
[14:21] <kromar1> since disk manager disapeared with 9.04, what app is able to mount my ntfs drives on boot?
[14:21] <hbekel> Ojii: do sudo modprobe nvidia again, then paste dmesg
[14:21] <MerlinW> Ojii, lspci | grep nvidia
[14:21] <Ali-smith> Hi all sorry to interrupt i need a hand with my wireless card is anyone able to contact me in a different conv?
[14:21] <lawbreaker13> i was on ->media-> (but here are only my data , Who were on the D://) and where are my software who were on the C:// ?
[14:21] <MerlinW> it see that?
[14:22] <raddy> MerlinW: Samba is not running
[14:22] <MerlinW> raddy, /etc/init.d/samba start ?
[14:22] <Ojii> MerlinW: 'lspci | grep nvidia' returns nothing but just 'lspci' lists a nvidia thingy
[14:22] <gorgonzola> how can i disable modules that are now built in into the kernel? i need to blacklist ahci...
[14:22] <ienorand> Ojii: I had to switch to 64bit because of that specific bug, but since you have only 2gb ram it shouldn't affect you, (i was actaully able to get it working on 32bit by removing a ram module, reducing to 2gb)
[14:22] <MerlinW> lawbreaker13, u have to mount those filesystems
[14:22] <Barnicle> Question: If I want to have a program run every morning, what command should I be using in Crontab? If I run it manually, I type './autoback.sh'. Is this crontab command correct: '0 10 * * * /home/administrator/autobach.sh'?
[14:23] <kromar1> so since disk manager disapeared with 9.04, what app is able to mount my ntfs drives on boot?
[14:23] <sean2009> st
[14:23] <MerlinW> lawbreaker13, just click on them on Computer window
[14:23] <Barnicle> autoback.sh
[14:23] <alleykat> lawbreaker13, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - start opening Places > Computer
[14:23] <gorgonzola> kromarl: did you trty adding it to /etc/fstab?
[14:23] <anderse> MerlinW, Are you sure there is one?
[14:23] <Ojii> ienorand: but upgrading to 64bit means losing all apps (or even all data)?
[14:23] <karamella_> could any one help me in finding a software to shred a lot of files on different hards
[14:23] <Thor> Is there a way to connect to my work's citrix server in ubuntu and launch ica files for things like outlook?
[14:23] <raddy> MerlinW: samba should started for serving purpose right?
[14:24] <ienorand> Ojii: Yes, it's a fresh install.
[14:24] <MerlinW> kromar1, ntfs-config
[14:24] <pepperjack> karamella_: wipe perhaps? not used it myself but the author seems exceedingly paranoid (good thing)
[14:24] <anderse> My *work* environment is screwed.. X-input vs. HAL. any ideas?
[14:24] <Ojii> ienorand: than that's not an option for me
[14:24] <MerlinW> anderse, ?
[14:24] <gartral> i have a problem accessing my music player (device, sansa e250) i posted in forum at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7167748#post7167748, sorry, I double pasted
[14:24] <anderse> Input focus is flaky, as are keyboard and mouse
[14:25] <MerlinW> raddy, right. If ur smb config is ok
[14:25] <Barnicle> Question: If I want to have a program run every morning, what command should I be using in Crontab? If I run it manually, I type './autoback.sh'. Is this crontab command correct: '0 10 * * * /home/administrator/autoback.sh'?
[14:25] <gorgonzola> anderse: may be you still have input confs in your xorg.conf?
[14:25] <kovalchuk> тут есть русские?
[14:25] <MerlinW> raddy, u can config confortable with smb4k app
[14:25] <raddy> MerlinW: I want samba browsing, not serving
[14:25] <anderse> gorgonzola, Nope, it's diked out
[14:25] <ks3> Barnicle, that looks correct
[14:26] <Barnicle> ks3: then why isn't it working?
[14:26] <anderse> MerlinW, There's a setting in gconf to show/hide the computer, network, trash icons on desktop.
[14:26] <hbekel> Ojii: paste the output of dmesg
[14:26] <raddy> MerlinW: Why should i install kde app.
[14:26] <Thor> Is there a way to connect to my work's citrix server in ubuntu and launch ica files for things like outlook?
[14:26] <ienorand> Ojii: Have you had a look at "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log > ~/Desktop/xorglog.txt"
[14:26] <karamella_> for more clarification i download some files and i need to removed completely
[14:26] <MerlinW> u need to serving samba, because its using the workgroup parameters
[14:26] <Barnicle> ks3: i'm typing that in crontab -e and in /etc/crontab
[14:26] <raddy> MerlinW: I want Nautilus to work
[14:26] <Almindor> damn
[14:26] <MadAGu> why nautilus does not display emblems right?
[14:26] <ienorand> !pastebin | Ojii
[14:26] <hbekel> ienorand: yes, no errors there, but it's configured for 'nv'
[14:26] <Almindor> not even eschalon works with the radeon driver ;(
[14:26] <MerlinW> raddy, u dont have to.... if u can config with files
[14:26] <gorgonzola> please... does anyone here know how should i disable moudles that are now built-in into the kernel? this is a critical problem in my box...
[14:26] <ks3> Barnicle, it would go in your user crontab, crontab -e... is the script executable?
[14:26] <kovalchuk> Есть?
[14:27] <hbekel> ienorand: also, the module can't be modprobed at all
[14:27] <Barnicle> yes, it's executable
[14:27] <MerlinW> btw, u can remove after
[14:27] <Barnicle> i chmod'ed it a+x
[14:27] <kromar1> MerlinW:  can ntfs-config be configured? or how does this tool work?
[14:27] <karamella_> for more clarification i download some files and i need to removed completel
[14:27] <MerlinW> just run, and its mount all filesystem
[14:27] <ks3> Barnicle, And the script works okay when you run it by hand?
[14:27] <Barnicle> yes
[14:27] <MerlinW> what u checked
[14:27] <Barnicle> manually everyday
[14:27] <ienorand> hbekel: hmmm
[14:28] <Ojii> ienorand, hbekel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/160013/
[14:28] <ranf> !ru | kovalchuk
[14:28] <raddy> MerlinW: So Natilus Samba browsing broken?
[14:28] <raddy> Why is sftp too not working
[14:28] <raddy> It worked initially
[14:28] <MerlinW> actually dunno, i used always seperated
[14:28] <MerlinW> but u can look around the gnome network configs...
[14:29] <MerlinW> or read the community documents
[14:29] <MerlinW> help.ubunut.com
[14:29] <MerlinW> help.ubunu.com
[14:29] <MerlinW> help.ubuntu.com
[14:29] <MerlinW> damn :D
[14:29] <FloodBot1> MerlinW: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:29] <D0pamine> reet o/
[14:29] <zamba> i have a problem with getting the X autoconfiguring working.. i've narrowed the issue down to the fact that X is unable to successfully detect my monitor.. i'm setting up a computer lab with identical computers (graphic cards and monitors as well).. on the computer that works i get: "(--) NV(0): DDC detected a CRT:" and then the manufacturer and stuff.. on the one that doesn't work.. i instead get a "none found"..
[14:29] <gartral> !ohmy | MerlinW
[14:29] <zamba> so i guess this is related to the EDID
[14:29] <MerlinW> ehh, igot it :D
[14:29] <Barnicle> ks3: so, i'll just try popping that into my roots crontab, and see if it works
[14:30] <ks3> Barnicle, You can add it direct to /etc/crontab, but you'd need an additional field specifying the username to run as
[14:30] <Barnicle> ok
[14:30] <gorgonzola> i had disabled ahci in intrepid via blacklist, now it is built in into the kernel: how can i disable it?
[14:30] <D0pamine> does anyone know if there is a bug in jaunty with compiz and nvidia
[14:30] <MerlinW> I have a question too:) After boot, the gdm stay in black - have cursor - and i need to restart it, for the x start. Not big problem, just unconfortable. Any solution?
[14:31] <rdw200169> zamba, hm... back in the day i had a LCD panel that was a nightmare to get working right, off brand stuff, ended up going off the Manual Specs to get the frequencies, etc... and hand-cramming an X-config for the monitor
[14:31] <gorgonzola> MerlinW: use kde :P
[14:31] <Ali-smith> Hiya guys dont mean to be a pin but can anyone help me with a porblem with wireless? (new convo if possile)
[14:31] <D0pamine> the keyboard/mouse locks but i can vnc it fine
[14:31] <afallenhope|work> hey is there a way of making an chr
[14:31] <MerlinW> gordonjcp, never:D
[14:31] <hbekel> Ojii: hmm, pastebin lspci too, please. also ls -l /lib/modules/
[14:31] <gorgonzola> MerlinW: hehehe, bad joke :P
[14:31] <gartral> i have a problem accessing my music player (device, sansa e250) i posted in forum at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7167748#post7167748
[14:31] <rdw200169> zamba, you can still do that, and i may be what you have to do, since EDID isn't working
[14:31] <anderse> gartral, Does it show up in dmesg?
[14:32] <Ojii> hbekel: lspci: http://paste.ubuntu.com/160015/
[14:32] <D0pamine> does anyone else have the compiz lock using nvidia on jaunty ?
[14:32] <anderse> Is there a way to get rid of HAL?
[14:32] <D0pamine> happening on 2 machines i've set up
[14:32] <gartral> anderse: i dont think, im really not sure how to tell
[14:32] <anderse> HAL breaks my kbd and mouse..
[14:32] <Ojii> hbekel: ls: http://paste.ubuntu.com/160016/
[14:32] <D0pamine> hal is good
[14:32] <gartral> D0pamine: no, but i noticed compiz runs slower now
[14:33] <rdw200169> anderse hah! you have to go into the sub-basement and float through space and take out the cards!
[14:33] <anderse> gartral, open a terminal and run "dmesg"
[14:33] <afallenhope|work> sorry, is there a way of making an image of my current setup? I want to make an ISO of my install... and then use it on VMWare and install Windows.
[14:33] <D0pamine> dont get rid - fix
[14:33] <anderse> rdw200169, If it was only that simple...
[14:33] <gorgonzola> anderse: HAL is GOOD, but it can cause some problems if it doesnt detect your proper conf. however, i'm at a loss on how to fix it... i seem to recall that it has some form of xml based conf files somewhere...
[14:33] <D0pamine> okey i'll go on the forums gartral maybe post a bug
[14:33] <D0pamine> btw jaunty is sweet
[14:33] <D0pamine> but i'm still using gentoo ;)
[14:33] <anderse> My work env is a MacBookPro... (die! die! die!)
[14:34] <doleyb> gorgonzola: /etc/hal/fdi/policy
[14:34] <mobi-sheep> To those who use HTOP, how do you generally quit (using F10) without displaying the menu?
[14:34] <gartral> anderse: what am i looking for?
[14:34] <ranf> mobi-sheep, q
[14:34] <D0pamine> mobi-sheep,  i ctl+C
[14:34] <gorgonzola> anderse: /etc/hal/fdi/policy according to doleyb
[14:34] <ienorand> Ojii: hbekel could the segfault at the end mean something? also, "1.078930] pci 0000:01:00.0: BAR 6: can't allocate mem resource [0xe0000000-0xdfffffff]" seems to refer to gfcard, is it relevant?
[14:34] <D0pamine> because i'm a brute
[14:34] <zamba> rdw200169: i solved it by changing the dvi-to-vga-adapter :)
[14:34] <anderse> gartral, the model name, make, something lite that
[14:34] <anderse> gorgonzola, Yeah, I saw
[14:34] <mobi-sheep> ranf: Thanks.  That one always made me wonder.
[14:34] <bin1010> my microsoFT crony company is trying to force me to change my laptop back to Windows...The IT guys says that there is no way to do whole disk encryption on Ubuntu or linux in general.  I found a way to do whole disk encryption, but is there a way to do this after the install is complete.  I would hate to have to reinstall everything.  Thanks in advance
[14:34] <MerlinW> Ojii, show us ur /boot/grub/menu.lst file content too
[14:35] <anderse> It's just that my F11 and F12 keys make *MOUSE* events. Wow!
[14:35] <D0pamine> bin1010,  use virtualbox
[14:35] <afallenhope|work> is there a way of making an image (ISO preferably) of my current setup? I want to make an ISO of my install... and then use it on VMWare and install Windows.
[14:35] <D0pamine> if thats not good enough bin1010 go on strike
[14:35] <bin1010> I have virtualbox...not following
[14:35] <gartral> anderse: ok, found it, lots of stuff here, shal i pastebinit?
[14:35] <onats_> is there a utility for ubuntu to monitor RAID? or hardware raid?
[14:35] <onats_> !raid
[14:35] <anderse> gartral, Yeah, sure
[14:35] <rdw200169> afallenhope|work, i find the quickest way to do that is just by cloning the working /etc/ directory into new installations.  this is, by far, the easiest way.  getting the additional packages is a matter of, either, rebuilding the cd, or creating a add-on respository cd with virtual package of everything you want installed post-installation
[14:36] <Ojii> MerlinW, hbekel, ienorand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/160018/
[14:36] <markl> onats_: every raid type will be different but it is almost always possible
[14:36] <afallenhope|work> rdw200169, I'm trying to get rid of Linux completely. just running it in VMWare
[14:36] <rdw200169> afallenhope|work, you have to be careful, though, of course, to only copy the /etc/ directories that are actually relevant to the install.  i.e. stuff that actually gets changed post installation, but does not include those system specific files, like hostname etc...
[14:36] <MerlinW> Ojii, its seems good...
[14:37] <alleykat> zamba, hmm interesting... maybe thats why my card cant detect 2nd screen
[14:37] <onats_> markl, I enabled the hardware raid of my MOBO, but it does not seem to be replicating to the other disk.. how should i be able to check that it did?
[14:37] <onats_> on ubuntu that is
[14:37] <hbekel> ienorand, not sure about the mem alloc... the segfault was from glxinfo, probably because he's running nv atm
[14:37] <rdw200169> afallenhope|work, ah, i see what you're talking about now.  hm... i suppose you could make a live cd that conforms to a particular configuration
[14:37] <rdw200169> afallenhope|work, but, you can't put a VM hdd image on a cd and make that work
[14:37] <ziggo> markl: you sure it's hardware raid?  sounds like a softraid (aka fakeraid)
[14:37] <gartral> anderse: http://gar.pastebin.com/d397cc4d5
[14:38] <ziggo> oops meant that to onats_
[14:38] <gorgonzola> I can't believe that ubuntu changed the whole kernel architecture in this release, and now i0m forced to use a buggy driver. Could anyone here please explain how can i disable a built.in module!? please?
[14:38] <rdw200169> afallenhope|work, you could, though, pull it off with a thumb drive or something like that.  accept, though, that performing your solution that way would result in a slower operating system (thumbdrives don't generally perform up to USB 2.0 speeds due to cheap hardware)
[14:38] <onats> ziggo, well I turned the RAID option on my motherboard on.
[14:38] <onats> ziggo, isn't that hardware raid?
[14:38] <markl> ziggo: heh
[14:38] <hbekel> Ojii: ls /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko ?
[14:38] <anderse> gartral, and it doesn't answer to the name /dev/sdc1 ?
[14:39] <markl> onats: there is no such thing as hardware raid on a motherboard
[14:39] <bin1010> hey .... launchpad is back up!!! woohoo!
[14:39] <ziggo> onats: no
[14:39] <anderse> afk
[14:39] <gorgonzola> onats: not necesarilly, it depends on the controller.
[14:39] <MerlinW> gorgonzola, modprobe.d/blacklist, rmmod
[14:39] <Ojii> hbekel: 'ls: cannot access /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/drivers/video/nvidia.ko: No such file or directory'
[14:39] <grytn> how do i get a transparent look on ubuntu?
[14:39] <ziggo> onats: i highly doubt it's hardware raid, it's more expensive than what you find onboardd
[14:39] <markl> the "built in" raids still put all the raid code in the driver
[14:39] <mint3> !ddr3
[14:39] <afallenhope|work> rdw200169, again, as I mentioned, I want an ISO image so just run the ISO image. via vmware
[14:39] <onats> really?? wow, i bought this mobo for that..
[14:39] <Boohbah> !compiz | grytn
[14:39] <onats> wasted money then
[14:39] <ziggo> onats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[14:39] <grytn> thx:)
[14:39] <gorgonzola> MerlinW that's the issue: this module is no longer a module... it is built in. it is already in blacklist, but the kernel loads it anyuway...
[14:40] <onats> ziggo, ok looking
[14:40] <MerlinW> hm
[14:40] <hbekel> Ojii: we're getting closer...
[14:40] <markl> onats: yeah unfortunately it is, i would suggest a used 3ware card on ebay (i've bought 3 that way and they all rock)
[14:40] <gartral> anderse: it says the device does not exist
[14:40] <Ojii> we are hbekel?
[14:40] <ziggo> onats: yeah a good raid card is like $300+ ish
[14:40] <Boohbah> gorgonzola: if it's builtin you can't blacklist it
[14:40] <markl> onats: my raid card emails me if a drive goes out
[14:40] <onats> lol. the marketing got me!
[14:40] <mint3> anything good is usually expensive..
[14:40] <Ojii> (well we better are cos I'm out of battery in 20min)
[14:40] <onats> heheh
[14:40] <rdw200169> afallenhope|work, thus, i mentioned that you could create a situation specific live cd.  i'm not the one to talk to about doing that though, i've never done it don't intend to ;)
[14:40] <mint3> markl, how did you set it up?[
[14:40] <Boohbah> gorgonzola: are you using a non-standard kernel?
[14:40] <gorgonzola> Boohbah: so there's no way of telling the kernel not to use that built'in module? i'll have to recompile my kernel!?
[14:41] <ziggo> onats: i'm in teh same boat myself, i have a raid 5 i can't use in ubuntu :p  gotta keep using windows on that box.
[14:41] <onats> ziggo, im reading the fakeraid document... this might work..
[14:41] <ziggo> ziggo: just be careful.  what raid version you using?  0?  1?
[14:41] <ziggo> or something like 5
[14:42] <gorgonzola> Boohbah: i'm using 2.6.28 vanilla from the jaunty upgrade. ahci was previously loaded as module, and caused problem with my laptop. now is builtin, and i'm trying to get the kernel to not use ahci and load all libata drives with ata_piix.
[14:42] <Ali-smith> Hiya all. anyone able to help me? I have an issue with me wireless card on my Desktop (currently using) it wont see any of the wireless networks that i know are active within my house. Any help would be great i am a completely new user.
[14:42] <christian> hello?
[14:43] <lvs> hi
[14:43] <ziggo> HI THERE
[14:43] <tsepesh> hi guys i have a question not strictely connected to ubuntu but i think you could be able to help me....i have a big program composed by a lot of file .c and .h , i would like to debug it but i dont know wich is the "main" or principal file....what can i do????
[14:43] <zamba> alleykat: check your Xorg.0.log
[14:43] <ljsoftnet> can i save my settings in "PulseAudio Device Chooser" after login? it returns to defaults
[14:43] <zamba> alleykat: especially those I2C lines
[14:43] <Guest89837> suck it
[14:43] <zamba> alleykat: that's where the probing for the monitors happens
[14:43] <gorgonzola> tsepesh cat * | grep main?
[14:44] <Guest89837> please
[14:44] <gartral> anderse: it says the device does not exist...
[14:44] <jadams> I have an nvidia card.  X boots fine with the nvidia driver, but both monitors are blank.  No errors in the Xorg.0.log, nothing in dmesg, everything's fine.  The bootup sound plays.  But no output.  Can anyone suggest what I do next to debug it?  Vesa driver is awful on this card
[14:44] <hbekel> tsepesh: fgrep -r 'int main' *
[14:44] <alleykat> i did, just confusing - one driver detects screen 1, another none of them
[14:44] <Pici> Guest89837: This is a support channel, please stop.
[14:44] <nibbler> gorgonzola: cat abuser
[14:44] <neohaven> One of my friends brought a laptop earlier today, on which he installed 9.04 NetBook Remix, but he has no interface starting up, just the gdm background, and I can create a folder and open it with nautilu, but I get no window decorations. Any ideas?
[14:44] <Ojii> hbekel: brb, getting my powersupply :D
[14:44] <SPiEkY> SPiEkY
[14:44] <zamba> i have no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/.. so whenever i launch X everything is automatically probed.. how can i write the probed information back to the xorg.conf file?
[14:44] <tsepesh> the program is kvm-qemu and i dont think it has a main....
[14:44] <Guest89837> how is it differnt installing applications for windows vs ubuntu?
[14:44] <hoobler> hi! i just upgraded a hardy box to jaunty kubuntu, and my monitor now goes black with purple jags on the bottom third (and alt-ctrl-f1 no longer works) somewhere during the startup process.  any ideas?
[14:45] <alleykat> both are 100% same types, but the dvi adapters...
[14:45] <Guest89837> ??
[14:45] <Boohbah> !repo | Guest89837
[14:45] <hoobler> the recovery console's auto-graphics-fix did nothing, and my xorg.conf is default
[14:45] <MerlinW> jadams, i have same problem i think: ctrl+alt+f1 login and: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[14:45] <zamba> alleykat: i had identical adapters myself, but i still had the problem
[14:45] <zamba> alleykat: maybe a malfunctioning adapter
[14:45] <nibbler> Guest89837: if you are installing software on windows, the most important thing is to remember who is the manufacturer, because this is where you will find it later in the start menu...
[14:45] <TomDubYA> quick xubuntu network question anyone?
[14:45] <gorgonzola> Boohbah: if I load 2.27.14, the kernel complies with blacklist and loads libata with ata_piix. i want to do the same with 2.6.28. any idea?
[14:46] <MerlinW> hoobler, ati?
[14:46] <gorgonzola> 2.6.27-14 *
[14:46] <alleykat> could be... apart from slow 60hz update on #2, not a problem anymore
[14:46] <Pici> nibbler: This is Ubuntu support, he is asking about installing software in Ubuntu
[14:46] <anderse> gartral, What /can/ you see when you plug it in, then?
[14:46] <hoobler> MerlinW: not sure, sorry -- how would i check?
[14:46] <Guest89837> pe@ce
[14:46] <nibbler> guest89837: and this is whats different in ubuntu
[14:46] <hoobler> (also i'm installing gnome now to see if it makes a difference, so i'll have to wait till that monster is done before checking :) )
[14:46] <Boohbah> gorgonzola: i'm not sure about the differences between ubuntu kernels, but if the old one works, why not use it?
[14:46] <Guest89837> penis
[14:46] <alleykat> took some awful digging in xorg.conf, logs and hal thingy thou :)
[14:46] <ljsoftnet> can i save my settings in "PulseAudio Device Chooser"? when i restart and login it returns to defaults
[14:46] <TomDubYA> ok will just fire away
[14:47] <alleykat> randr12 is not my friend
[14:47] <gartral> anderse: nothing, the desktop just sits there... th DAP shows the link is active, but it nothing is dont, i cant force it to mount, and as fao as everything BUT dmesg is concerned, the sansa simply does not exist...
[14:47] <TomDubYA> xubuntu 9.04 doesnt seem to let me do any nfs type stuff
[14:47] <Ojii> hbekel: back
[14:47] <TomDubYA> ie mount another linux export
[14:48] <neohaven> One of my friends brought a laptop earlier today, on which he installed 9.04 NetBook Remix, but he has no interface starting up, just the gdm background, and I can create a folder and open it with nautilu, but I get no window decorations. I have searched google, and the UNR FAQ and details for the Aspire One, and I can't find anything relating to this. Any ideas?
[14:48] <gorgonzola> Boohbah: well, i could use it. but 2.6.28 is notoriously faster, except for this showstopping erratic bug with ahci. and i'm trying to retain faith in ubuntu, by looking for a conf option that would allow me to use my hardware without requiring a kernel recompile. i think this is a big issue, even if it affects a few users....
[14:48] <anderse> gartral, It could simply be that it has a file system that's not understood..
[14:48] <cruicial_Thread> how do i change the color in my bash term ?
[14:48] <TomDubYA> sorry but this place is too busy for me to keep up with back to google
[14:48] <mint3> anyone can help me set up RAID!?
[14:48] <gartral> anderse: fat32 like every other flash drive in the world, and its even in MSC mode...
[14:48] <hoobler> dang -- while installing gnome to try to diagnose kubuntu trouble, it's now hanging at "registering documents with scrollkeeper" -- which i dimly remember being a source of frustration years ago... ideas?
[14:48] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[14:48] <Noble> Sound is broken, believe it has something to do with apt upgrade.
[14:49] <jadams> MerlinW, no no, I know how to restart GDM.  That doesn't solve it.  It just boots again like that, no output
[14:49] <raddy> I have succesfully added samba share to ubuntu
[14:49] <jadams> until I switch to vesa, of course :)
[14:49] <MerlinW> hoobler,  laptop? :D
[14:49] <MerlinW> hoobler,  start in kernel recovery mode, and: lspci | grep VGA
[14:49] <anderse> gartral, what does 'mount' say? is it listed there?
[14:49] <hbekel> Ojii: try reinstalling nvidia-glx-180, then modinfo nvidia again
[14:49] <raddy> Now can anybody help me to add SFTP?
[14:49] <raddy> I am getting timeout error :(
[14:49] <mobi-sheep> neohaven: Just a thought.  Did you md5sum?  Did he install it with a good clean verified file (as in not corrupted file)?
[14:49] <wiehan> Question: I want to safely copy my entire /home directory with all hidden files included to an external hard drive, BUT I do not want to keep all the special permissions applied to some directories, meaning some folders that have only root permissions should have full permissions in the target directory? sudo cp /home/wiehan /media/external/backaps -???
[14:49] <hoobler> merlinw: no, desktop.  i'll try lspci | grep VGA shortly
[14:50] <neohaven> mobi-sheep: he installed with a file I think was good and verified
[14:50] <neohaven> I downloaded it
[14:50] <MerlinW> jadams, u have Ati card too?
[14:50] <hoobler> btw after installing gnome and resuming boot, i still get a hung computer with blank screen -- no purple jags this time FWIW :)
[14:50] <raddy> I can connect to server via gnome terminal
[14:50] <mobi-sheep> neohaven: Downloading it... don't necessarily mean it was good.  Sometimes I have to download it again because it was corrupted.
[14:50] <mobi-sheep> !md5sum | NeoBlaster
[14:50] <mobi-sheep> !md5sum | neohaven
[14:50] <mobi-sheep> Sorry NeoBlaster :)
[14:50] <jadams> MerlinW, I had an ATI card before, yes
[14:50] <NeoBlaster> np
[14:50] <NeoBlaster> :p
[14:51] <neohaven> mobi-sheep: yeah, I know how to use md5 :3
[14:51] <jadams> MerlinW, I removed it and put in the nvidia, and this was going down when I booted up
[14:51] <MerlinW> jadams,  but now...
[14:51] <MerlinW> ah
[14:51] <MerlinW> ok
[14:51] <supernix> anyone here have trouble with text becomming washed out looked or smeared should I say?
[14:51] <joaopinto> wiehan, you should not try to do both, if you want to fix the permissions, do it before copying
[14:51] <Boohbah> !bug 352197
[14:51] <raddy> Nautilus is not connecting to SSH
[14:51] <hoobler> merlinw: intel graphics controller.
[14:51] <raddy> Please help
[14:51] <joaopinto> wiehan, if the target filesystem is an ext3 fs, I would recommend to use rsync for the copy
[14:51] <mobi-sheep> neohaven: Check it now though, just in case.  Install it via USB, right?
[14:51] <Boohbah> hmm how do i get the bot to link the bug number?
[14:52] <fore> !headache BED
[14:52] <neohaven> mobi-sheep: lemme try that I'll redo it
[14:52] <NicolasM14> mobi-sheep: about my Firefox pb, i'll just gonna fill a bug on bugzilla. Thanks for your help.
[14:52] <ienorand> Boohbah: no exclamation mark
[14:52] <wiehan> joaopinto: the target fs is ntfs :-(
[14:52] <Boohbah> bug 352197
[14:52] <MerlinW> hoobler, try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[14:52] <gartral> anderse:
[14:52] <Noble> Sound broken by latest apt-get upgrade, anyone else got this?
[14:52] <mobi-sheep> NicolasM14: Okay.  Good luck though. >_>
[14:52] <zetheroo> why does ctrl-alt-backspace no longer work in Jaunty?
[14:52] <gartral> anderse: nope
[14:52] <ks3> wiehan, cp -R --no-preserve=mode I believe
[14:52] <mobi-sheep> !dontzap | zetheroo
[14:52] <gartral> anderse: like i said, intrepid recognised it just fine
[14:52] <joaopinto> wiehan, so, to keep unix permissions, you will need to use some archiving tool, like tar
[14:52] <ienorand> Boohbah: I think that's supposed to work...
[14:53] <hoobler> merlinw: it has created a new xorg.conf -- now i'll resume boot
[14:53] <anderse> gartral, ok, well... gparted?
[14:53] <hoobler> (but my old xorg.conf is standard, and i've tried auto-fix several times which makes a new xorg.conf)
[14:53] <hoobler> here we go
[14:53] <zetheroo> mobi-sheep: so its not even built in anymore ... huh
[14:53] <MerlinW> zetheroo, take off, dunno why: u can enable it again: apt-get install dontzap && dontzap -d
[14:53] <wiehan> joaopinto: please look at what ks3 said: cp -R --no-preserve=mode I believe
[14:53] <gartral> anderse: i dont seem to have gparted on my machine, one moment
[14:54] <mobi-sheep> zetheroo: Yup.  They're trying to discontinue this.  And many Windows users have the tendency of restarting X accidentally. (Task Manager0.
[14:54] <MerlinW> hoobler, thats good, right? :)
[14:54] <hoobler> merlinw: hang with purple jags on bottom section of screen again.  no luck.
[14:54] <raddy> Nautilus is not connecting to SSH
[14:54] <MerlinW> hm
[14:54] <joaopinto> wiehan, there is no command that will allow you to keep unix privileges on an ntfs filesystem...
[14:54] <hoobler> merlinw: ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't respond.
[14:54] <zetheroo> mobi-sheep: ha ... damn it ... we Linux users are changing to suit the Windowz domain
[14:54] <alleykat> raddy, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba ?
[14:55] <wiehan> joaopinto: then you didn't read my question correctly: I DO NOT WANT TO KEEP PRIVILEGES
[14:55] <joaopinto> wiehan, ok, so just do a regular cp -a
[14:55] <Boohbah> gorgonzola: ok i read your bug report, looks like a valid bug and ubuntu devs are working on it.
[14:55] <raddy> alleykat: Sorry, it is not connecting to SSH
[14:55] <MerlinW> ok, try this: put this to in xorg.conf device section: Option "DRI" "Off"
[14:55] <mobi-sheep> zetheroo: If you know what to do then this shouldn't bother you at all.  It's two way streets, I guess.  :)
[14:55] <joaopinto> wiehan, sudo cp -a source destination
[14:55] <MerlinW> hoobler, after reboot
[14:55] <hoobler> merlinw: ok
[14:56] <Ojii> hbekel: just tried 'apt-get remove/apt-get install' and 'apt-get remove/apt-get clean/apt-get install' of 'nvidia-glx-180' but the 'sudo modprobe nvidia' still says that the module isn't found
[14:56] <wiehan> joaopinto: what is the difference between sudo cp -a and sudo cp -R --no-preserve=mode
[14:56] <gorgonzola> Boohbah: yeah, i'll report this new issue that disabled my workaround. but i think its an upstream bug, and it is very erratic, i haven't been able to find anyone else with this problem... do you know where can i find documentation on how to deal with bnuilt-in modules?
[14:56] <gartral> anderse: this 9.04 im in, btw
[14:56] <alleykat> raddy, true thats https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto :)
[14:56] <hbekel> Ojji: you DO have linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic installed, right?
[14:56] <joaopinto> wiehan, man cp
[14:57] <joaopinto> wiehan, read the cp man page with: man cp
[14:57] <MerlinW> Ojii, apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-kernel-common
[14:57] <ienorand> zetheroo: Well, it was related to other things as well, compiz cube flips maybe... alt-bckspc--erasing, it's a bit to natural a keycombo to kill X, in many peoples opinion.
[14:57] <mint3> why is ubuntu so particular ?
[14:57] <hoobler> merlinw: slightly different hang this time :) different colors at the bottom of the screen, otherwise still hung.  btw: during boot it's trying to do the final stage of jaunty install, inserting into the boot process the installation of three packages -- i don't know if that's relevant.
[14:57] <hoobler> also i can't quite see the very last thing on the F1 console before the screen hangs, but it *might* be "atieventsd" starting up.
[14:57] <zetheroo> ienorand: it was good for me ... :)
[14:57] <MerlinW> Ojii, after: apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-glx-180
[14:57] <Ojii> hbekel: yes got that on newest version according to apt-get
[14:57] <gartral> anderse: no, the drives are NOT seen by gparted
[14:58] <Ojii> MerlinW: trying that now
[14:58] <anderse> gartral, ok, well, I guess that makes it hard to mount them, then.
[14:58] <ks3> wiehan, -a attempts to keep ownerships and permissions the same, -R is just a recursive copy, and --no-preserve=mode explicitly tells it not to keep permissions
[14:58] <Ojii> MerlinW: done and modprobe still gives 'FATAL: Module nvidia not found.'
[14:59] <MerlinW> hoobler, if u can do that, in gdm choose the gnome safe mod
[14:59] <anderse> gartral, (Sorry, I don't have any good answer)
[14:59] <hbekel> Ojii: try via sys->admin->hardware drivers again
[14:59] <MerlinW> if u will have picture, than we are close
[14:59] <hoobler> merlinw: are you saying i should type "gdm" at the recovery console and start gnome display manager?  i'm not sure how to get into gnome safe mode.
[14:59] <gartral> anderse: i THINK its because of a bad partition.... but i have no way of scanning it too tell!
[15:00] <MerlinW> hoobler, u also tried the nvidia offical installer too?
[15:00] <Ojii> hbekel: hadware-drivers flashes a little window when i click activate and then goes back to the main thing
[15:00] <Ojii> hbekel: and the driver still isn't activated ofc
[15:00] <MerlinW> couse its make a kernel module itself
[15:00] <anderse> Hm. If fdisk doesn't get it, I don't know.
[15:00] <hoobler> merlinw: no, not aware of what that is (nvidia installer) -- i did a normal upgrade to jaunty via update-manager and this is as far as i've gotten.
[15:00] <desperatenoob> hello, i need help, nvidia does not install after I upgraded to jaunty
[15:00] <ienorand> zetheroo: Yea, I reactivated it first thing after install, of course, but I can still see how the decision makes sense... And if alt+sysrq+K would work consistently as replacement...
[15:01] <MerlinW> i understandm but u can try
[15:01] <usr13> anderse:  sudo
[15:01] <MerlinW> at least u will have kernel module
[15:01] <zetheroo> ienorand: hmm ... yeah a replacement would be nice
[15:01] <anderse> usr13, what?
[15:01] <MerlinW> if we lucky
[15:01] <hoobler> merlinw: if you're talking to me, i'm not sure what you're asking me to do.
[15:01] <usr13> anderse: sudo fdisk -l
[15:01] <hbekel> Ojii: you DID follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia before asking here?
[15:01] <hoobler> is there an nvidia installer i can access via recovery console?
[15:02] <jadams> MerlinW, so any hints where to debug, given that nvidia installs and seems to work fine (in that X boots) but I have no display?  I can't look in the logs for help...is it possible that it thinks it's outputting to another display for me?
[15:02] <anderse> usr13, why are you telling me?
[15:02] <desperatenoob> hoobler i think he wants you to download official nvidia installer from nvidia
[15:02] <jjjren_irc> Hello!
[15:02] <hoobler> desperatenoob: thank you. i'll try it.
[15:02] <jjjren_irc> I have a question...
[15:02] <ienorand> zetheroo: Well... alt+sysreq+K works, but it's not completely similar, and I feel like CAB has been more solid...
[15:02] <gartral> anderse: this is impossible.. its not even seen by fdisk...
[15:02] <usr13> anderse: Never mind.  Probably not relevant
[15:02] <desperatenoob> hoobler - we have the same problem i think
[15:03] <Ojii> hbekel: there's no jaunty guide on that page
[15:03] <zetheroo> alt+sysreq+K works? ienorand
[15:03] <anderse> Ok, so, basically, nobody here can help me with my screwed up X input?
[15:03] <desperatenoob> Ojii we have the same problem too
[15:03] <hoobler> desperatenoob: upgraded to jaunty via update-manager and now box hangs on black screen, ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work?
[15:03] <jjjren_irc> I am trying to install a dual boot machine with windows xp and ubuntu 9.04; but I don't get the option of installing side by side. Somebody knows why?
[15:03] <usr13> anderse: What is your problem?
[15:03] <LjL> !dontzap | zetheroo
[15:04] <MerlinW> hoobler, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_180.51.html
[15:04] <hoobler> merlinw: thanks
[15:04] <zetheroo> LjL: so you still have to install a package ... no probs
[15:04] <anderse> I have a MacBook and HAL thinks my USB kbd+mouse should be like the builtin ones.
[15:04] <LjL> zetheroo: no
[15:04] <desperatenoob> hoobler - mine just shows that ubuntu has to run in safe graphics mode and i cant install from System > Hardware Drivers
[15:04] <LjL> zetheroo: you have to install a package if you want to use ctrl+alt+backspace. you *don't* need to install anything to use alt+sysrq+k
[15:04] <Ojii> hbekel: just read the 8.10 stuff on that page and did that all
[15:04] <ljsoftnet> can i save my settings in "PulseAudio Device Chooser"? when i restart and login it returns to defaults
[15:04] <anderse> And the semantics are all totally borked: F11 and F12 are mousebuttons, now... (?!)
[15:04] <ienorand> zetheroo: Yea, it's the magic sysreq you know :)
[15:04] <ngong> I installed 9.04, network manager in systray is missing? Shouldn't it start with startup? If not what to do?
[15:05] <sriramoman> how do i enable h264 encoding via ffmpeg?
[15:05] <alleykat> jjjren_irc, from desktop cd?
[15:05] <zetheroo> LjL: well that other combination is not working for me
[15:05] <anderse> Also, mouse-over focus is borken, too.
[15:05] <MerlinW> jadams, just in the /var/log/xorg.log, gdm/gdm.log, messages.log
[15:05] <jjjren_irc> no...
[15:05] <jjjren_irc> sorry yes...
[15:05] <sriramoman> what software do i have to install to enable h264 encoding via ffmpeg
[15:05] <zetheroo> ienorand: yeah I see that key
[15:05] <jjjren_irc> from desktop cd..
[15:05] <usr13> addeboy: Can you elaborate a little more?
[15:05] <LjL> zetheroo: it's not? does alt+sysrq+h show anything while you're in a virtual terminal (not in X)?
[15:05] <hoobler> merlinw: fyi before installing nvidia installer, i just tried running "gdm" from terminal, and got same result as usual: black hanging screen with junk.
[15:06] <alleykat> if you start the one in windows, choose option 1, boot up from cd and install that way
[15:06] <alleykat> works here
[15:06] <zetheroo> LjL: virtual terminal?
[15:06] <jadams> MerlinW, there are no errors.  X starts fine (I hear the boot sound, etc).  It's just not outputting to my monitors.  Xorg.0.log says nvidia loaded successfully, etc.
[15:06] <LjL> zetheroo: a console. alt+f2
[15:06] <LjL> zetheroo: ctrl+alt+f2, that is (ctrl+alt+f7 to go back)
[15:06] <MerlinW> u just upgraded too early, guys :) if u are not expert, u need to wait a couple weeks, until fixing the new release's bugs :)
[15:07] <LjL> !u
[15:07] <hbekel> Ojii: and you have linux-headers-2.6.28-11-generic as well as linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-11-generic?
[15:07] <fsufitch> hi. how do i stop people from sending me messages using the "write" command?
[15:07] <zetheroo> LjL: yeah that brings up help
[15:07] <DirtDiver> m0rning
[15:07] <MerlinW> jadams, try this: kernel recovery boot, log in, than: startx
[15:07] <Ojii> hbekel: yes
[15:07] <ks3> fsufitch, mesg n
[15:07] <anderse> fsufitch, "mesg n", if memory serves..
[15:07] <jadams> MerlinW, I'm a bit of an expert, I've run linux for 12 years now off and on, last four years solid, my business is built on ubuntu machines, etc.  I'm just used to a driver either failing or working
[15:07] <desperatenoob> !nvidia
[15:07] <joaopinto> fsufitch, are you the system admin ?
[15:07] <jadams> MerlinW, I will try it
[15:07] <fsufitch> joaopinto: yes
[15:08] <LjL> fsufitch: "man mesg"
[15:08] <fsufitch> i'll try mesg n
[15:08] <fsufitch> thanks, g2g now though
[15:08] <MerlinW> jadams, i just say for the beginners:D
[15:08] <MerlinW> with no offense
[15:08] <ngong> how to get the network manager icon in systray?? somehow it is missing here after upgrade to 9.04
[15:08] <hbekel> Ojii: anyways, uname -r should yield '2.6.28-11-generic' instead of 'x86'. the driver installation probably depends on that, and it might be the reason it fails.
[15:08] <hoobler> hmm
[15:08] <mobi-sheep> ngong: Just add it using "Add to Panel"
[15:09] <LjL> zetheroo: unsure then. alt+sysrq+k works here (but i'm on Hardy), and i've seen several reports from Jaunty users that it works there...
[15:09] <GeminiDomino> I'm trying to debug an annoying driver (digium zaptels) and I'm hitting a bit of a wall... how can one go about determining the subvendor/subdevice IDs for a PCI card?
[15:09] <gartral> so im dead in the water with this...
[15:09] <GeminiDomino> On hardy
[15:09] <zetheroo> LjL: hmm
[15:09] <grytn> is it a game channel for ubuntu?
[15:09] <Ojii> hbekel: how can i fix that? apt-get remove/install uname?
[15:09] <hbekel> Ojii: probably not
[15:09] <LjL> !channels > grytn    (grytn, see the private message from ubottu)
[15:09] <haytham-med> hi all,in openoffice when i select visible buttons and then click on right to left or left to right, it is not shown
[15:10] <ks3> GeminiDomino, I would think there are options for lspci to show that info
[15:10] <diego_> Hi! I'm writing a bash script and I need to copy some text from one file to another, but there's a catch, the part I need to copy are all the lines in between two words, lets say "$start" and "$end". I thought of using sed for this but I wasn't able to find the wright way. I already serched the intertubes. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance
[15:10] <MerlinW> ngong, gnome-netstatus-applet
[15:10] <hbekel> Ojii: cat /proc/sys/kernel/osrelease
[15:10] <grytn> thx
[15:10] <codebaz> hi all , how to convert .rmvb on linux too avi or mpeg ?
[15:10] <GeminiDomino> ks3: Me too, but I can't seem to find anything in the man page about it, google is little help, and the -v and -nn options don't give me any joy.
[15:11] <MerlinW> codebaz, install mencoder
[15:11] <MerlinW> codebaz, install mencoder and avidemux
[15:11] <Ojii> hbekel: '2.6.28-11-generic'
[15:11] <marco76> Hi. why is that flash content, like youtube videos, has no sound?
[15:11] <alleykat> diego_, uhmm regular expressions?
[15:11] <mvironwork> Hello....I noticed that laptop dual display (using an ati card) no longer seems to work (on 9.04) -- but was working in 8.10....any suggestions?
[15:11] <MerlinW> marco76, install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:11] <marco76> thanks
[15:12] <alleykat> or maybe some kinda macro in some Vi(m) (just idle suggestions, not sure how I'd do it)
[15:12] <www_Kernel_sh>  I would like to apply for an IRC. . Some other technical,, Where can apply for
[15:12] <diego_> alleykat: Yes, I think so, but I'm not sure what regular expressions are. I'm just begining with this
[15:12] <ks3> diego_, man regex should tell you more than you want to know :)
[15:12] <ngong> NetworkManager is running as a daemon. But the icon in systray is missing. How to enable wlan0?
[15:12] <alleykat> google regular expressions cheat sheet diego_
[15:13] <alleykat> it may not be enough, but its a start
[15:13] <wtv> the process Xorg takes 20-25 % of my CPU resources in the system monitor. what is it about?
[15:13] <nemo> I got a "not authenticated" on lintian?
[15:13] <Boohbah> wtv: is compiz enabled?
[15:13] <nemo> anyone know what lintian is?
[15:13] <scunizi> wtv: it maybe looking for updates in the background?
[15:13] <joaopinto> ngong, if you have the interfaces configured on /etc/network/interfaces, network manager will not show the applet
[15:13] <macius> google.pl
[15:13] <wtv> Boohbah: no compiz
[15:13] <Boohbah> nemo: Lintian dissects Debian packages and tries to find bugs and policy violations.
[15:13] <gartral> the forum thread too my issue is at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7168062#post7168062
[15:13] <D0pamine> compiz lockup wtv ?
[15:14] <wtv> scunizi: it happens very frequently
[15:14] <usr13> www_Kernel_sh: You mean you want to get a registered nic?
[15:14] <scunizi> wtv: trackerd
[15:14] <joaopinto> ngong, you need to remove your real interfaces (except for lo) from the interfaces file, so that they can be managed by network manager
[15:14] <diego_> alleycat: Neat! Thank you
[15:14] <wtv> scunizi: i have google desktop. it indexes stuff. could it be because of that?
[15:14] <alleykat> mvironwork, choppy/no pic on 2nd screen?
[15:14] <scunizi> wtv: sure.. maybe also a page in FF that's constanatly loading
[15:14] <Boohbah> wtv: google desktop will likely slow things down, but it shouldn't be the xorg process
[15:15] <wtv> Boohbah: then what is the Xorg process?
[15:15] <Boohbah> wtv: err, the 'X' process
[15:15] <www_Kernel_sh> usr13? 	I would like to have their own IRC chat room
[15:15] <nemo> Boohbah: any idea why it might not be signed correctly?
[15:15] <mvironwork> alleykat: if I set it to not mirror (and turn the 2nd display on at the correct res -- in this case 1440 x 900), it still mirrors the first display on the 2nd
[15:15] <ubuntu> I decided to try to resize my /home, from a LiveCD, but now gparted says "unrecognized" and I can't mount it.  I think the drive died on me, I have a spare, but I can't mount it since it says "sdb5 not found" sdb5 is my /home.  Anyway I can tell it to mount it as ext3 anyways?
[15:15]  * nemo is always paranoid of compromises
[15:15] <LjL> www_Kernel_sh: ask #freenode
[15:16] <wtv> Boohbah: what can i do to reduce this CPU usage?
[15:16] <Boohbah> nemo: maybe you don't have the key for its repository
[15:16] <joaopinto> ubuntu, do a sudo fdisk -l (to see what is the partition name)
[15:16] <scunizi> wtv use top or htop to figure out what's eating the cpu
[15:16] <ubuntu> fsck says to try another superblock, and I tried e2fsck -b 8193 like it says, but still nothing
[15:16] <Haunt_House> sorry to bother you, but is anybody here experienced with partitioning for ubuntu? my knowledge ends with fdisk and fat32 (which was easy), so I don´t realy know the do's  and don'ts
[15:16] <usr13> www_Kernel_sh /join #chat-room-name
[15:16] <Boohbah> wtv: turn off google desktop and see if it has any effect
[15:16] <alleykat> mvironwork, just spend 2½ days trying to set my desktop dual display up, still no idea what each line in xorg.conf means... but...
[15:16] <GeminiDomino> Hrm. Looks like my best bet is a manual parse of /proc/bus/pci/devices. Now to find a schema
[15:16] <zorganix_> what about migration from 8.10 to 9.04 ?  She justed switched to Linux and this works fine up to now !!
[15:16] <LjL> language please
[15:16] <joaopinto> ubuntu, if it does not mount, the filesystem is corrupted or not of the type you are expecting, please check with fdisk -l first
[15:17] <scunizi> zorganix_: then try the live cd..
[15:17] <Boohbah> zorganix_: if it works, don't break it!
[15:17] <usr13> zorganix_: Then leave it alone, and watch your language while you're at it.
[15:17] <alleykat> mvironwork, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/347758/comments/14 <- this and...
[15:17] <wtv> Boohbah: turning off gd, the process still consumes 10-15 % CPU all the time
[15:18] <ubuntu> joaopinto, "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" says it is sdb5, as did gparted, and it's on an extended partition.
[15:18] <mvironwork> alleykat: will try that
[15:18] <ngong> joaopinto: I know that, interfaces has 2 lines: auto lo; iface lo inet loopback; battery icon is also missing.
[15:18] <alleykat> mvironwork, http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174 <- this got me thru - especially the description in the bug, got that darn RandR1.2 off so aticonfig could work
[15:18] <zorganix_> 9.04 may correct bluetooth issues but heard about problems with vbox ?
[15:18] <joaopinto> ubuntu, if you can't mount id, and its listed as ext3, then it's probably corrupted
[15:18] <joaopinto> mount it
[15:19] <Daremonai> where is the output of: "smartctl --test=long" ?
[15:19] <cheesy> Hey guys I'm having a bit of trouble setting up dual monitors in 9.04? Anyone wanna help?
[15:19] <alleykat> I went from 18-45 FPS to 590-800 in glxgears
[15:19] <alleykat> cheesy, ATI card?
[15:20] <cheesy> alleykat: yes
[15:20] <Caesi> hullo, how can I automount my Windows partition on Ubuntu 9.04? thanks :)
[15:20] <cheesy> worked perfectly last night
[15:20] <ubuntu> joaopinto, It is listed as unrecognized, and I *know* it is ext3, since I left it when I upgraded to jaunty the other day.  / and /home are on different partitions, / is ext4, /home is ext3, only thing I can think of is that it is on an extended partition, and there is empty space infront of it, not sure if that could be doing it
[15:20] <Ojii> hbekel: any ideas?
[15:20] <usr13> cheesy: put a line in /etc/fstab for it.
[15:20] <usr13> Caesi: put a line in /etc/fstab for it.
[15:20] <MerlinW> alleykat, i have 13.000 .. so its not so good :)
[15:20] <alleykat> look forward to 2½ days of misery then :P no, seriously, did you see the 2 links I posted to mvironwork ?
[15:20] <ngong> how to start the network management dialog if it is missing in systray?
[15:21] <joaopinto> ubuntu, you could try to use testdisk, to check for a deleted partition entry
[15:21] <mvironwork> alleykat: no such file
[15:21] <Haunt_House> hi, whats a reasonable size for a swap partition? old amd 2000 pc
[15:21] <wtv> Caesi: install Disk Manager from add/remover programs
[15:21] <joaopinto> ngong, sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager restart
[15:21] <usr13> Caesi: Are you sure it's not already mounted?
[15:21] <Caesi> thanks usr13  and wtv
[15:21] <alleykat> o.0 13.000??
[15:21] <GeminiDomino> ks3: It IS in lspci -v, it's just not revealed as such.  "Subsystem: Device Type SubV:SubD"
[15:21] <cheesy> user13: uh...
[15:21] <ubuntu> joaopinto, I don't think it's deleted, since it shows up, just as unrecognized.
[15:21] <Caesi> usr13: I'd like it to automount
[15:21] <Daremonai> where is the output of: "smartctl --test=long" ?
[15:21] <Caesi> usr13: at startup
[15:21] <mvironwork> alleykat: was working in 8.10
[15:21] <cheesy> user13: how will that help me with my monitors?
[15:21] <wtv> usr13: adding line in /etc/fstab doesn't automount it on startup
[15:21] <joaopinto> ubuntu, so it's corrupted...
[15:22] <MerlinW> hm
[15:22] <mvironwork> is it possible to downgrade from 9.04 --> 8.10?
[15:22] <cheesy> alleykat: any ideas on how to fix my dual monitor setup?
[15:22] <anderse> Haha! "apt-get remove --purge mouseemu" solved my problem.
[15:22] <joaopinto> mvironwork, just reinstaling
[15:22] <ubuntu> joaopinto, Yes, as stated, and I was asking for either help mounting it or help fscking it
[15:22] <usr13> wtv: Oh really?
[15:22] <grytn> how do i add servers to XChat?
[15:22] <rbd> when using dhclient, can ubuntu automatically configure /etc/hosts with the hostname/IP received through dhcp?
[15:22] <hbekel> Ojii: i'm out of ideas, really...
[15:22] <Caesi> wtv: any disk manager?
[15:22] <wtv> usr13: yeah really
[15:23] <joaopinto> ubuntu, I mean, seriously corrupted, since you can't fsck it...
[15:23] <wtv> Caesi: the name of the package is Disk Manager
[15:23] <towerk> what ftp server package would you recommend for 9.04?
[15:23] <usr13> wtv:  I think you are mistaken.
[15:23] <alleykat> cheesy, using the proprietary driver?
[15:23] <joaopinto> !poll | towerk
[15:23] <wtv> usr13: you'd require mount -a to mount em
[15:23] <vart> grytn, XChat -> NetworkList ->Add
[15:23] <cheesy> alleykat: dunno, how do I check?
[15:23] <codebaz> MerlinW: i installed that . but can not open file with that
[15:23] <ubuntu> joaopinto, I realize that, but do you know of anything I can try?  I tried SpinRite, it sees it, but says it doesn't think it can successfully read/write to it, so it doesn't want to try
[15:23] <alleykat> System > Administration > Hardwaredrivers
[15:24] <desperatenoob> help. nothin happens when I click on Activate in System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[15:24] <joaopinto> ubuntu, I would try testdisk anyway
[15:24] <JaneDoe> are there programs that have trouble running under 64 bit ubuntu?
[15:24] <cheesy> alleykat:"No properity drivers are in use for this system"
[15:24] <usr13> wtv: Well sure, if  you add the line and don't restart the computer. But if  you simply add a line in fstab file for the dirve or partition, it esentially automounts it.
[15:24] <codebaz> how to convert .rmvb on linux too avi or mpeg ?
[15:25] <vart> could I change the default program language without changing the menu language of the whole Gnome?
[15:25] <Haunt_House> can I break my hard drive by using a wrong partitioning format? is ext3 ok for an old 80gb drive?
[15:25] <Ojii> dammit
[15:25] <Ojii> hbekel: what was that thing you suggested with reinstalling the kernel or whatever?
[15:25] <Caesi> wtv: I can't find it.. neither in Add/Remove Programs nor in Synaptics Package Manager
[15:25] <djsiegel> Say, can anyone help me get my USB soundsticks working with Jaunty?
[15:25] <nemo> codebaz: personally I use mplayer
[15:25] <Ojii> deperatenoob: same...
[15:25] <Ojii> and i just spent like 2 hours here trying to fix it :(
[15:25] <alleykat> ok cheesy , I had to install the proprietary driver for my Radeon HD 3600 card
[15:25] <FloodBot1> Ojii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:25] <deugeniet> question
[15:25] <usr13> Haunt_House: No, won't hurt it.
[15:25] <JaneDoe> Haunt_House: should not be a problem
[15:25] <wtv> usr13: well, that didn't quite happen on my machine :)
[15:25] <ubuntu> JaneDoe, Programs don't "have trouble" running under 64bit really, they have to be made for 64bit, afaik
[15:25] <hbekel> Ojii: what does uname -a give?
[15:25] <MerlinW> codebaz, mencoder file.rmbv -ofps 25 -oac mp3lame -lameopts preset=64 -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=600  -vf scale -zoom -xy 640  -o file.avi
[15:25] <nemo> codebaz: but ffmpeg might suport that one too, worth a shot
[15:25] <Haunt_House> usr13: JaneDoe thank you
[15:25] <GeminiDomino> Ok. Driver hacking sucks...
[15:25] <cheesy> alleykat: how do I install the prpietary driver?
[15:25] <nemo> MerlinW: heh. much more complete :)
[15:25] <Ojii> hbekel: still the same
[15:26] <MerlinW> nemo, ?
[15:26] <hbekel> Ojii: just 'x86' ?
[15:26] <Ojii> hbekel: yes
[15:26] <nemo> MerlinW: you gave a whole commandline :)
[15:26] <wtv> Caesi: use the command sudo apt-get install disk-manager
[15:26] <usr13> wtv: Then you must have entered false information in the fstab file.
[15:26] <alleykat> cheesy, one possible isn't listed within that dialog?
[15:26] <MerlinW> nemo, oh :)
[15:26] <nemo> Boohbah: looks like I was getting the not authenticated update from a PPA repo. removed it. all better.
[15:26] <Caesi> wtv: couldn't find it
[15:26] <cheesy> alleykat: I don't understand you just said
[15:26] <wtv> Caesi: use the command i mentioned
[15:26] <wtv> usr13
[15:27] <Caesi> I did
[15:27] <Caesi> wtv: I did
[15:27] <Caesi> wtv: apt-cache search can't find anything
[15:27] <desperatenoob> hbekel: mine says Linux ubuntu 2.6.27-11-generic - kinda strange considering that jaunty should be 2.6.28 right?
[15:27] <Haunt_House> is there a linux rule on where to mount the partitions? I have one for data and one for the OS (one swap) or can I be liberal on that?
[15:27] <wtv> usr13: then mount -a wouldn't work. i thouroughly checked all uuids
[15:27] <alleykat> cheesy, System > Administration > Hardwaredrivers > click on the ATI/AMD proprietary driver, then green button to install
[15:27] <amigamia> i am doing the 9.04 online upgrade via and it is trying to replace config files should i replace or keep?
[15:27] <alleykat> was how it worked here
[15:28] <usr13> Caesi:  You need to create a mount point and add a line in /etc/fstab for it.
[15:28] <cheesy> alleykat: don't have that option.
[15:28] <pepperjack> Haunt_House: as to where, you can mount em anywhere you want
[15:28] <usr13> wtv: Would you like me to help you fix it?
[15:28] <wtv> Caesi: then use sudo apt-get update first
[15:28] <Caesi> usr13: that will be for each startup?
[15:28] <usr13> Caesi: Yes
[15:28] <amigamia> i am doing the 9.04 online upgrade via and it is trying to replace config files should i replace or keep?
[15:29] <Caesi> wtv: I'm telling you, I can't find such a package :)
[15:29] <tesseracter> hi. installed ubuntu 9.04, system now thinks a LONG time after I login. Checked .xsession-errors, Glib CRITICAL assert failed. ideas what to do next?
[15:29] <hbekel> desperatenoob: seems you're not running 2.6.28 ... is grub configured to boot the correct image?
[15:29] <wtv> usr13: well, it all works for me now, but thanks :)
[15:29] <Caesi> usr13: ok.. but I'll need the UUID (or whatever it's called) won't I?
[15:29] <Ojii> hbekel: how would i fix that uname?
[15:29] <bullgard4> Firefox 3.0.9 > Bookmarks > Organize Bookmarks > Library  > Right-click opens a menu. On one Ubuntu 8.04.2 computer the last entry is 'Properties', on another this is missing. How can I configure the 2nd to show the 'Properties' entry also?
[15:29] <alleykat> !nvidia | cheesy
[15:29] <alleykat> maybe it can be gotten from there
[15:29] <desperatenoob> hbekel: i would surmise no - i am still seeing intrepid - how do i fix that? sorry i am an absolute noob...
[15:29] <diego_> Ok, the list of regexp will help me a lot. But the problem remains. How to use them in order to make sed copy all the lines BETWEEN two keywords. How do I indicate the beginning and the end of the string I want to copy? I know how to copy an entire file with sed '$r file'. But don't know how to indicate sed to only copy a part of the file, as I said before. Thank you in advance for your help
[15:29] <ngong> I read, that the NetworkManager-Icon does not apear, if wifi driver is not loaded. It was prior to 9.04. How to verify that?
[15:30] <ubuntu> joaopinto, You know of a more or less reliable way I can at least get one last read out of it?  Running testdisk now, not sure how long it should take, I selected the drive, and did proceed, not sure when the "fixing" comes into play.
[15:30] <NickWebHA> I have a strange problem with my GeForce 9800M GS and both drivers Ubuntu 9.04 amd64 recommends I use. Every time during the shut down process the screen fades to white and then, gradually, other colors. 8.10 amd64 used to do the same thing but only some times. I am forced to hold down the power button to "complete" the shutdown.
[15:30] <MerlinW> usr13, put this in fstab: /dev/<new_partition>    /media/new_partition     ext3    defaults,umask=0 0 0
[15:30] <itadm> hello
[15:30] <itadm> where are the menu files in ubuntu 8.10
[15:30] <itadm> ?
[15:30] <hbekel> Ojii: i have no idea, it should work. you're running a 32bit ubuntu on an 64bit machine, maybe that's related. but I have no idea...
[15:30] <usr13> MerlinW: Thank you.
[15:30] <ubuntu> itadm, What do you mean?
[15:30] <joaopinto> ubuntu, if it's seriously corrupted, forget it
[15:31] <usr13> MerlinW: Will "defaults" include "user"  ?
[15:31] <itadm> i want to edit my menus of desktop where do i find menu files
[15:31] <MerlinW> after sudo mount -a
[15:31] <MerlinW> yw
[15:31] <cdavis> Anyone know the trick to get Ubuntu 9.04 to install under ESX 3.5?
[15:32] <usr13> MerlinW: /dev/<new_partition>    /media/new_partition     ext3    user,rw  0 0
[15:32] <ubuntu> joaopinto, So since it's corrupted, and I have a replacement drive, and have accepted that the data is gone, you can't suggest anything to try with a spare drive I have that had my former /home on it?  I mean it's gone either way, so what's the difference?
[15:32] <itadm> understand
[15:32] <itadm> ?
[15:32] <hbekel> Ojii: try asking on the forums why uname -a might fail, and give as much system info as possible. But i'm rather certain that the driver install fails because of the uname -r returning bogus
[15:32] <Ojii> anyone on here know why uname -a might fail?
[15:32] <hbekel> Ojii: a lot of programs/installers rely on uname -r to find out the kernel release, so that's pretty essential
[15:33] <LjL> Ojii: fail like what?
[15:33] <tesseracter> hi. installed ubuntu 9.04, system now thinks a LONG time after I login. Checked .xsession-errors, Glib CRITICAL assert failed. ideas what to do next?
[15:33] <ubuntu> joaopinto, I mean if there is a slight chance I can get it back, why not try it?
[15:33] <usr13> Caesi: first you should create a mount point.  Ok?
[15:33] <Ojii> LjL: uname -a returns 'x86'
[15:33] <kromar> how can i play a file in amarok? i loaded all my music but cant get it to run...
[15:33] <LjL> Ojii: wow. on what, jaunty?
[15:33] <usr13> Caesi: Would  you and wtv like to follow me to private channel?
[15:33] <desperatenoob> somebody should knock me in the head before i decide to upgrade - this always happens when i upgrade ...
[15:33] <Ojii> LjL: yes jaunty 32bit
[15:33] <Caesi> usr13: ok
[15:33] <Caesi> usr13: hit me
[15:33] <wtv> usr13: np
[15:34] <itadm> can someone help me
[15:34] <itadm> ?
[15:34] <joaopinto> Ojii, pastebin your lsb_release -a
[15:34] <mbeierl> !ask
[15:34] <ubuntu> itadm, To quote what I said before "What do you mean?"  What "menu files" are you talking about?
[15:34] <joaopinto> ubuntu, I don't have the know-how for such a recovery attempt, sorry
[15:34] <tesseracter> hi. installed ubuntu 9.04, system now thinks a LONG time after I login. Checked .xsession-errors, Glib CRITICAL assert failed. ideas what to do next? i've still got wireless and command line.
[15:35] <Ojii> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/160048/
[15:35] <NickWebHA> itadm: Do you mean System -> Preferences -> Main Menu?
[15:35] <dougl> itadm, http://www.google.ca/search?q=ubuntu%2Bmenu%2Bedit&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[15:36] <itadm> thanks
[15:36] <joaopinto> Ojii, md5sum $(which uname)
[15:36] <peppo> is there an alternate driver than evdev to use for usb mice? the one in xserver 1.6 is broken wrt MMB use
[15:36]  * zorganix_ is away: Gone away for now
[15:36] <Ojii> joaopinto: 538721f0baff5af0025ccb4abb98692f  /bin/uname
[15:37]  * zorganix_ is back.
[15:37] <kromar> whats a good music player?
[15:37] <eseven73> !away > zorganix_
[15:37] <NickWebHA> I have a strange problem with my GeForce 9800M GS and both drivers Ubuntu 9.04 amd64 recommends I use. Every time during the shut down process the screen fades to white and then, gradually, other colors. 8.10 amd64 used to do the same thing but only some times. I am forced to hold down the power button to "complete" the shutdown. I do not have this problem in my dual-booted Vista.
[15:37] <Ojii> kromar: songbird
[15:37] <vart> could I change the default program language without changing the menu language of the whole Gnome?
[15:37] <joaopinto> Ojii, that is not the uname package from ubuntu jaunty 32 bits
[15:37] <joaopinto> I mean, the uname binary
[15:37] <kromar> Ojii: doesent exist in the add/remove app
[15:37] <Ojii> joapinto: how would i get the *real* uname then?
[15:38] <mobi-sheep> Anybody here actually using Tomboy Notes to "Take Notes, Link Ideas & Stay Organized" ?
[15:38] <Ojii> kromar: i know, getsongbird.com
[15:38] <MerlinW> usr13, yes u can change to defaults
[15:38] <joaopinto> Ojii, apt-cache policy coreutils
[15:38] <cdm10> has anyone had issues with Broadcom wireless since upgrading?
[15:38] <itadm> i want to modify my menu System put new stuff in it
[15:38] <cdm10> itadm: right click on the menu bar, hit Edit Menus
[15:39] <itadm> i want to do in VI editor
[15:39] <itadm> damn
[15:39] <joaopinto> Ojii, you should expect: 85a578b7df806c002a727803180f5b7b  /bin/uname
[15:39] <gartral> !ohmy itadm
[15:40] <gartral> !ohmy | itadm
[15:40] <BadSector1> Help:  I have installed Ubuntu 9.04 onto my laptop.  It has a nvidia video card that I want to use the "restricted drivers" for.  I went into Synaptic and installed the Nvidia 180 drivers, but they are still not showing up as an option in "System\Administrations\Hardware Drivers".. all I have there is version 96..
[15:40] <Ojii> jaopinto: i did 'sudo apt-cache policy coreutils' and it didn't change uname
[15:40] <cdm10> BadSector1: what nVidia card does your laptop have?
[15:40] <joaopinto> Ojii, erm, that was to check the uname package version, not to change anythng
[15:40] <Ojii> oh
[15:41] <itadm> damn thanks for help!
[15:41] <Ojii> jaopinto: it outputs http://paste.ubuntu.com/160052/
[15:41] <tesseracter> BadSector1: check your software sources.
[15:41] <pixelmonkey> anyone know how to solve font kerning issues when printing with firefox 3/3.5?
[15:42] <joaopinto> Ojii, sudo apt-get install --reinstall coreutils
[15:42] <Helpme> Hello i have the same problems as this fellow just in Ubuntu: http://www.fixya.com/support/t1712863-sony_dvd_rw_dw_31a_stopped_writing_not
[15:42] <BadSector1> tesseracter: thanks
[15:42] <tesseracter> hi. installed ubuntu 9.04, system now thinks a LONG time after I login. Checked .xsession-errors, Glib CRITICAL assert failed. ideas what to do next? i've still got wireless and command line.
[15:43] <kennedy> Hello, i am new to ubuntu, i just installed 9.04 on vmware
[15:43] <recon691> was hoping that 9.04 would fix my network issues but unfortunately my RT2561st card still corrupting memory all over the place
[15:43] <kennedy> this is awesome
[15:43] <coz_> hey guys  recently gnome 2.26.1  /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7  is using up an enormous amount of cpu  from 12- to 70% with or withough compiz running
[15:43] <dbarnett> Hello, I'm having driver issues upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 (to get to 9.04). I can no longer boot after 8.04-8.10 upgrade. Can I just copy the kernel from the 9.04 iso and boot to that to complete the upgrade?
[15:43] <Helpme> kennedy ofc its awesome its Ubuntu! :D
[15:43] <coz_> this has never occurred before  jaunty
[15:43] <gorgut> Hey, guys. Can someone please tell me where the script is that tells mono to load at login?
[15:43] <kennedy> haha thanks Helpme
[15:43] <kromar> ok the problem seems not to be the music palyer, i cant load any files in a player somehow. any idea what the problem could be?
[15:44] <dbarnett> kromar: you may have to enable non-free sources and install the codecs
[15:44] <gartral> hello... i am having serious issues wuith mounting an appearently damnaged fat32 filesystem.... full(er) info at http://ubuntuforums.org/private.php?folderid=0
[15:44] <dbarnett> assuming you have licence for them of course
[15:44] <MerlinW> joaopinto, i cant see any problems in Ojii's coreutil output
[15:44] <recon691> kromar: did you install the codex?
[15:44] <joaopinto> dbarnett, you will need to use a live cd, mount your partition, chroot to it, and then continue the upgrade from there, using do-release-upgrade
[15:45] <dbarnett> joaopinto: do I need to burn an 8.10?
[15:45] <kromar> recon691: i updated to 9.04, other than that i havent changed anything
[15:45] <sirjoebob> Running 9.04, tried to upgrade Amarok 2.02 to the latest build and it failed. uninstalled/reinstalled and now it will not load ANYTHING into the library but plays files just fine. any thoughts???
[15:45] <joaopinto> MerlinW, neither do I, but I can see that his uname's binary does not match the expected version
[15:45] <dbarnett> joaopinto: I think the 8.10 completed, but is it really 'complete' if it never booted
[15:45] <kromar> recon691: just loaded it into vlc and it seems to play but i cant hear anything
[15:46] <xconvergex> !
[15:46] <MerlinW> joaopinto, oh i see
[15:46] <recon691> kromar: check your volume control ?
[15:46] <xconvergex> I use graphic programs..will they work with ubuntu ?
[15:47] <dbarnett> xconvergex: can you be more specific?
[15:47] <zaggynl> Yes you can, with wine!
[15:47]  * zaggynl runs
[15:47] <alleykat> paint is said to...
[15:47] <backgen> hey guys how do i find out which version of Ubuntu i'm running?
[15:47] <xconvergex> I use 3ds max , photoshop illustrator.
[15:47] <RLa> i have big problems with apt-get, package download hangs, i hit ctrl+c, try reinstall, but half-downloaded package seems to be ignored!
[15:47] <LjL> !version | backgen
[15:47] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek starts in 13 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[15:48] <ngong> joaopinto: restarted NetworkManager, no Icon
[15:48] <RLa> so my half-downloaded package will be broken?
[15:48] <desperatenoob> brb
[15:48] <eseven73> xconvergex, blender, inkscape is the linux version of those two
[15:48] <RLa> i find this quite dangerous
[15:48] <backgen> thanks!
[15:48] <ngong> joaopinto: how to check whether the wifi drivers are still there?
[15:48] <xconvergex> eseven73 are they same ?
[15:49] <eseven73> photoshop 2 and 3 work in wine I believe
[15:49] <recon691> RLa: note the package and do a complete remove and reinstall, probably fix it
[15:49] <backgen> hey guys, if i'm gonna upgrade via network...is there a chance that i'll lose the files on my computer? Should i do a backup?
[15:49] <regeya> aaaaaaaah photoshop 2
[15:49] <MerlinW> xconvergex, blender, gimp
[15:49] <eseven73> xconvergex, same? no but they're the linux equivalent of 3dmax and illustrator
[15:49] <RLa> recon691, complete remove - where does apt-get download packages into, i saw nothing under /tmp?
[15:49] <eseven73> MerlinW, I don't think gimp does vector does it?
[15:49] <joaopinto> backgen, if your data is important, yes, backup, even if you are not expected to lose data
[15:49] <marcodc> hi all
[15:50] <MerlinW> right, photoshop cs2 working with wine very well
[15:50] <BadSector1> install the nvidia-180-modaliases package as well in Synaptic if you want it to be available in 'Hardware Drivers'     (Answers my question)
[15:50] <LjL> backgen: chances of losing data files are extremely low (though everything is possible). it is possible that the upgrade goes bad and you're unable to boot without resorting to live CD or other manual stuff, though
[15:50] <recon691> backgen: if you have to ask that question you should probably do a backup :)
[15:50] <mobi-sheep> eseven73: I don't think Gimp do vector.  Inkscape does. (?)
[15:50] <joaopinto> eseven73, for vector graphics you use inkscape
[15:50] <backgen> ok thanks!
[15:50] <regeya> MerlinW, afaik no, but if you're just doing vector art, inkscape will do vector graphics...not as powerful as illustrator but it does nice standard svg
[15:50] <tesseracter> heres something interesting: i tried aptitude reinstall gnome-settings-daemon which had the glib critical error, and it said "wasnt able to locate file for gnome-settings-daemon"
[15:50] <eseven73> yes I was the one that suggested inkscape ,,,before anyone else
[15:50] <recon691> RLa: well, the deb's are stored in var somewhere, but try using the packet manager first
[15:50] <glitsj16> RLa: /var/cache/apt/archives holds those
[15:50] <hbekel> Ojii: reinstalled coreutils?
[15:51] <MerlinW> regeya, for vector graphs: http://www.linux.com/feature/148630
[15:51] <Gandal> hello, hola
[15:51] <nomasteryoda> RLa, but using synaptic, apt-get or aptitude is preferable
[15:51] <gharz> !backup
[15:51] <MerlinW> gimp dont can vectors, my bad
[15:51] <regeya> MerlinW, thanks, but I wasn't asking :->
[15:51] <bogdan_> Hi every1
[15:51] <marcodc> a dummy question: ubuntu 8.10 i can't mount a rw partition for my users. My fstab: /dev/sda4 /home/marcodc/myfolder ext3 users,defaults 0 0
[15:52] <marcodc> what's the matter?
[15:52] <gharz> !sbackup
[15:52] <kromar> so any idea why i cant load my music file into gmusicbrowser?
[15:52] <MerlinW> u cant change the illustrator at the moment...
[15:52] <bogdan_> I have installed 9.04 and i had a Huawei modem
[15:52] <bogdan_> it work fine before
[15:52] <MerlinW> virtualbox+windows is the solution:D
[15:52] <regeya> hehe
[15:52] <MerlinW> or vmware
[15:52] <bogdan_> now it connects to the network but the net does work
[15:52] <MerlinW> :D
[15:52] <DeepTime> Table size: 59073
[15:52] <goldenvirginia> ciao a tutti
[15:52] <Pici> !it | goldenvirginia
[15:52] <LjL> !it | goldenvirginia
[15:52] <Ojii> jaopinto: now i get "85a578b7df806c002a727803180f5b7b  /bin/uname"
[15:53] <n8tuser> bogdan_-> do you have a good route table?
[15:53] <kromar> man this build sucks ass, cant even listen music....
[15:53] <hbekel> Ojii: try uname -a again
[15:53] <LjL> Ojii: isn't that the same as before?
[15:53] <bogdan_> n8tuser, you mean to run route and see what's there ?
[15:53] <dbarnett> kromar: something tells me it's not impossible to play music on 9.04
[15:53] <n8tuser> bogdan_-> yes
[15:53] <Ojii> hbekel: "Linux notebook 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux"
[15:53] <Ojii> thanks a lot jaopinto
[15:54] <ngong> joaopinto: with iwconfig, I can see wlan0 showing the right ESSID, does that mean the wifi driver is there, just the NetworkManger Icon is missing? or could that be an information drawn from cache?
[15:54] <kromar> dbarnett: well then tell me how it works, i cant load music files in the player
[15:54] <Ali-smith> Anyone able to provide assistance with Wireless access?
[15:54] <Gandal> some body now one linux channel spanish pleas ?
[15:54] <eseven73> !es
[15:54] <LjL> Ojii: i would be quite worried about the fact that you had the wrong coreutils installed. it might be a rootkit.
[15:54] <dbarnett> kromar: have you tried all the suggestions people have offered here? codecs? volume?
[15:54] <hbekel> Ojii: that looks much better, try installing the drivers again via sys->adm->hwdrivers
[15:54] <LjL> !info chkrootkit > Ojii
[15:54] <LjL> !info rkhunter > Ojii
[15:54] <joaopinto> Ojii, please be carefull you should understand what happened, something/someone replaced your uname binary
[15:54] <ngong> joaopinto: iwlist wlan0 scan looks also pretty good
[15:54] <hbekel> LjL: indeed
[15:54] <kromar> dbarnett: yes and thats not the problem. i cant load the files into the player
[15:54] <dbarnett> kromar: what error do you get?
[15:55] <BadSector1> Arrg.. Help again... I thought that the nvidia-180-modaliases package would place the Driver into my "Hardware Drivers" page.. but it did not.  Does anyone else have a suggestion for me?
[15:55] <kromar> dbarnett: how can i remove the player settings and start with default?
[15:55] <bogdan_> ~bin
[15:55] <bogdan_> lol
[15:55] <kromar> dbarnett: i dont get an error, theres just nothing happening
[15:55] <ngong> joaopinto: just the icon is missing to enable it, or am I wrong?
[15:55] <joaopinto> ngong, I don't have much experience with wifi troubleshooting, sorry :\
[15:55] <dbarnett> kromar: have you tried another player? try deleting .gmplayer (or something like that)
[15:55] <gartral> hello... i am having serious issues wuith mounting an appearently damnaged fat32 filesystem.... full(er) info at http://ubuntuforums.org/private.php?folderid=0
[15:55] <dbarnett> kromar: try moving it efore deleting
[15:56] <recon691> kromar: do you get any graphics eq, is it playing the file and you not hearing it?
[15:56] <desperatenoob> hbekel, omfg i cant believe it! you helped me unknowingly! WHOOPEE!
[15:56] <hbekel> desperatenoob: grub was still loading the old kernel?
[15:56] <kromar> dbarnett: its not loading them into the player
[15:56] <Ojii> jaopinto: how could that even happen?
[15:56] <gartral> !language | desperatenoob
[15:56] <desperatenoob> hbekel, yes!
[15:56] <kromar> dbarnett: where exactly are the settings stored?
[15:57] <dbarnett> kromar: I have no idea. I don't use gmplayer
[15:57] <SealedWithAKiss> Does anybody know why I am getting a 403 Forbidden on my Apache web server? It wont serve me index.html. Any suggestions/help would be appreciated!
[15:57] <Ali-smith> Hey all. Anyone able to assist with a wireless connection issue?
[15:57] <desperatenoob> hbekel, HOORAY! HOORAY for hbekel! HOORAY!!!!
[15:57]  * zorganix_ is away: coming back soon
[15:57] <dbarnett> kromar: try a different player. If that works you can rule out some things
[15:57] <Ojii> hbekel: stlll fails in sys->adm->hwdrivers
[15:57]  * zorganix_ is back.
[15:57] <BadSector1> I will just try to follow the guide for completely uninstalling nvidia and then try to reinsall...
[15:57]  * zorganix_ is away: bye
[15:57]  * zorganix_ is back.
[15:57]  * desperatenoob is doing the robot dance
[15:57] <hbekel> Ojii: you should really chkrootkit and rkhunter first
[15:57]  * zorganix_ is away: bye
[15:57] <adelie42> doing a fresh install for someone and only have a 8.10 CD (no dvd player). I want to use ext4. is the easiest thing to do 'sudo apt-get install ubiquity' to update the installer on the live CD to install an up to date system?
[15:57]  * zorganix_ is back.
[15:58]  * zorganix_ is away: Gone away for now
[15:58] <cdm10> Has anyone had graphical glitches with titlebars in Jaunty running Compiz?
[15:58] <eseven73> !away > zorganix_
[15:58] <bogdan_> n8tuser, what you been by good routing table ?
[15:58]  * zorganix_ is back.
[15:58]  * desperatenoob bamonoroboto east oh robot oh
[15:58] <bogdan_> n8tuser, i have a default gateway:)
[15:58]  * desperatenoob is moonwalking
[15:58] <kromar> dbarnett: works with vlc player, so why the hell cant i load those files in gmusicbrowser? everything worked fine pre 9.04
[15:58] <hbekel> desperatenoob: good for you :)
[15:59] <desperatenoob> hbekel, thank you thank you thank you!!!!!
[15:59] <n8tuser> bogdan_-> can you paste your route -n results? also include ifconfig and cat /etc/resolv.conf
[15:59] <hbekel> desperatenoob: i didn't do anything
[15:59] <zamba> i need a way to store the current running X configuration
[15:59] <zamba> how can i do that?
[15:59] <dbarnett> kromar: it doesn't sound like an ubuntu issue, you might want to check the forums for gmusicbrowser. I not familiar with that at all
[15:59] <zamba> (i have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file)
[15:59] <bogdan_> n8tuser, sure
[15:59] <bogdan_> n8tuser, just a sec
[15:59] <recon691> kromar: have a look in you home dir for a hidden dir .gmusicbrowser
[15:59] <Bodsda> zamba: you have no xorg.conf? why?
[15:59] <desperatenoob> hbekel, u pointed out something which was quite obvious!!! thanks! it was staring at me at my nose!
[16:00] <zamba> Bodsda: because that will auto probe
[16:00] <dbarnett> kromar: got to run to a meeting. Good luck
[16:00] <kromar> dbarnett: i cant find a .gmusicbroswer file there...
[16:00] <kaie> good day. I usually run Fedora. I had installed ubuntu 8.04 LTS on the home system of a remote friend (200 km away). Today my friend tells me, she confirmed some prompt, and now her system is performing an upgrade from 8.04 to 9.04. Q: Is it true a simple click will trigger such a release upgrade? My friend simply said "yes" but is not prepared for such a task and to answer the invovled questions
[16:00] <MerlinW> zamba, yes u have :D
[16:00] <Bodsda> zamba: what? autoprobe, whats that?
[16:00] <zamba> MerlinW: huh?
[16:00] <zamba> MerlinW: i have what?
[16:00] <MerlinW> xorg.conf
[16:00] <zamba> MerlinW: no, i don't
[16:01] <MerlinW> have to there
[16:01] <Jimmymaniac> Hi. Is there a quick way on nautilus to recursively change permissions on a folder and it's subdirs? i wanna do the equivalent of "chmod 777 somedir -R" without having to fire up a terminal
[16:01] <zamba> nope
[16:01] <MerlinW> hmm
[16:01] <desperatenoob> everybody: just want all of you to know: hbekel is the most awesomest dude in this irc channel as of this moment!
[16:01] <zamba> read the documentation
[16:01] <SixThreeOh> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found * large amount.....
[16:01] <zamba> if you don't have a xorg.conf file everything will be automatically probed
[16:01] <Bodsda> zamba: please pastebin the output of    ls -lah /etc/X11/    so we can be sure
[16:01] <zamba> Bodsda: omg
[16:01] <adelie42> Jimmymaniac: without a terminal? why?
[16:01] <Bodsda> zamba: if everything is autoprobed, then why do you need to save the config?
[16:01] <cdm10> Bodsda: xorg.conf is no longer required
[16:01] <gartral> hello... i am having serious issues wuith mounting an appearently damnaged fat32 filesystem.... full(er) info at http://ubuntuforums.org/private.php?folderid=0 updated, i can use MTP mode in OFW
[16:01] <zamba> Bodsda: because i'm connected through a vga splitter
[16:01] <zamba> Bodsda: http://pastebin.com/m231762d1
[16:02] <tesseracter> BadSector1: honestly, the best way is to just download drivers from ftp.nvidia.com /join #nvidia is a good place to start
[16:02] <Bodsda> cdm10: but it stil works yeah? i can still use it
[16:02] <SixThreeOh> Any idea why I can't update my OS?
[16:02] <MerlinW> ok u havent
[16:02] <MerlinW> :D
[16:02] <Ojii> hbekel: chkrootkit didn't find anything
[16:02] <cdm10> SixThreeOh: try changing your software mirror in System>Admin>Software Sources
[16:02] <kaie> also, i'm really surprised that an upgrade from a 8.04 LTS version to a 9.04 non-LTS version is offered to a user
[16:02] <zamba> Bodsda: and the monitor cannot be auto-probed throught he vgs splitter, so i have to connect directly to the monitor, then do the autoprobing and then save the output of the autoprobe into an xorg.conf file
[16:02] <adelie42> SixThreeOh: sounds like somethings wrong
[16:02] <desperatenoob> well i am off now thanks again hbekel!
[16:02] <zamba> MerlinW: told you so
[16:02] <eseven73> kaie, by default that would not happen, she/he must have changed something
[16:03] <MerlinW> okok:D
[16:03] <tesseracter> kaie: you can change that setting in software sources
[16:03] <Bodsda> zamba: well, sounds like you know what your talking about, apologies, its beyond my scope
[16:03] <joaopinto> kaie, it is not, unless you go to the update manager and set it to offer non LTS upgrades
[16:03] <SixThreeOh> cdm10: My gui is microsoft GDI+
[16:03] <eseven73> what joaopinto said
[16:03] <Jimmymaniac> adelie42: Scenario: You're on ubuntu. A friend gives you his USB key to give you some files. You find a virus there, with "read-only", "hidden" and "system" dos/windows attributes. Nautilus doesn't let you delete them without permission.
[16:03] <SealedWithAKiss>  Does anybody know why I am getting a 403 Forbidden on my Apache web server? It wont serve me index.html. Any suggestions/help would be appreciated!
[16:03] <SixThreeOh> So I don't have that/default gui stuff other than open office, terminal, etc
[16:04] <adelie42> Jimmymaniac: why not just delete them as root?
[16:04] <joaopinto> SealedWithAKiss, probably because your documentroot is set to a path where the www-data uses does not have read+execute permissions
[16:04] <JK3mp> Hey guys im having a problem with a netbook running gOS
[16:04] <SixThreeOh> Surely us.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com should work though?
[16:04] <gartral> !mtp > gartral
[16:04] <bogdan_> n8tuser, http://pastebin.com/m4b6b8ab7 here it is :)
[16:04] <SealedWithAKiss> joaopinto, my document root is set to the default /var/www.
[16:04] <adelie42> SixThreeOh: that is far from the only reason why updates can fail
[16:05] <Jimmymaniac> adelie42: I wanna be able to do that quick and easy without a terminal, for my friend's benefit. I have zero problems with the prompt (writing this on irssi :D ), but next time he finds something like that, he will be a little bit lost.
[16:05] <adelie42> SixThreeOh: usually if you are in the middle of updates and cancel, you can't just run it again to make it work
[16:05] <SealedWithAKiss> joaopinto, would it have anything to do with me using flash? I have a number of .swf files in the webroot.
[16:05] <adelie42> Jimmymaniac: alt-f2, gksudo nautilus
[16:05] <joaopinto> SealedWithAKiss, make sure your index file is rx for everyone or for www-data
[16:06] <JK3mp> Hey i need help with a netbook
[16:06] <zamba> JK3mp: cool!
[16:06] <joaopinto> SealedWithAKiss, 403 is usually for unable to check directory, or index file on the directory
[16:06] <adelie42> Jimmymaniac: better?
[16:06] <JK3mp> the grub only shows memorytest
[16:06] <SealedWithAKiss> joaopinto, [Tue Apr 28 15:58:58 2009] [error] [client <IP_ADDRESS>] (13)Permission denied: file permissions deny server access: /var/www/index.html
[16:06] <kromar> recon691: i have searched the file system for the .gmusicbrowser folder but there is none. so where else could the settings be stored? or how do i revert to default settings?
[16:06] <bogdan_> n8tuser, http://pastebin.com/m4b6b8ab7
[16:06] <grawity> kromar: Have you checked your homedir?
[16:06] <mobi-sheep> SealedWithAKiss: Try index.htm --> not html.  I think that was the default file extension?
[16:07] <kromar> recon691: yes
[16:07] <MerlinW> SealedWithAKiss, in httpd.conf, change the user and group sections / or chown ur files
[16:07] <SixThreeOh> gutsy has been removed from all of the mirrors?
[16:07] <kaie> eseven73, tesseracter, joaopinto, she doesn't have much computer skills, I only had instructed her to confirm the usual package updates. I don't think she knows how to change software sources. but who knows, maybe she accidentally enabled non-lts upgrade, if that was possible to do with a single click
[16:07] <joaopinto> SealedWithAKiss, the log tells it all ;)
[16:07] <kromar> recon691: i even searched it with catfish
[16:07] <zamba> JK3mp: boot your system in rescue mode
[16:07] <Jimmymaniac> adelie42: better, yes, but not optimal, still looking...
[16:07] <MerlinW> SixThreeOh, Gutsy is dead
[16:07] <gartral> !gutsy | SixThreeOh
[16:07] <eseven73> kaie, it takes like 2 steps to change that, so yeah...
[16:08] <gharz> guys, i'm using 8.10. why is it that everytime i run apt-get upgrade i get this message? how do i fix this?     Failed to fetch http://ae.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-updates/main/source/Sources.bz2  Hash Sum mismatch
[16:08] <recon691> kromar: you could try reinstall it from synaptic
[16:08] <SixThreeOh> So I'm screwed then?
[16:08] <eseven73> kaie, and it's all gui to do those 2 steps ;)
[16:08] <kromar> recon691: i already did that but the settings wont reset when i do that
[16:08] <hbekel> Ojii: i can't give you any specific advise. you should really try to find out why your uname binary was changed or why it wasn't the version that should have been there according to your pkg manager
[16:08] <mobi-sheep> SixThreeOh: No, you're not screwed.  Just update.
[16:08] <unitedroad> hi all
[16:09] <adelie42> Jimmymaniac: of course, you can right click on the folder and then 'open with...' and 'gksudo nautilus'. root isn't meant to be too easy, considering the power to override ANYTHING
[16:09] <gartral> !update | SixThreeOh
[16:09] <Ojii> hbekel: I might have changed it ages ago for some reason
[16:09] <MerlinW> gharz, its a repo problem, not urs. choose an another mirror
[16:09] <SixThreeOh> How can I do that when the package lists have also been removed?
[16:09] <unitedroad> is there any place  I can find out the list of all the processes that have been run during the system uptime
[16:09] <n8tuser> bogdan_-> what happens when you ping <IP_ADDRESS>  ?
[16:09] <gharz> MerlinW: ok
[16:09] <gharz> thanks!
[16:09] <Ali-smith> Hey all any idea what I can do about accessing the internet via wireless/ i have installed the windows driver using ndiswrapper (?) but i dont know where to go from here...(new convo) if possible.
[16:09] <grawity> unitedroad: I don't think so.
[16:09] <SixThreeOh> It's a VERY VERY special distro
[16:09] <MerlinW> np
[16:09] <scapor> Every single time I install Ubuntu on a flash drive (installing on it like installing on a HD, not live-usb) the filesystem of the USB stick gets corrupted after some boots. WIth normal fsck it says the FS is clean but once you force fsck it finds a lot of errors. System files get corrupted etc so I always have to reinstall. Is this known ? Is there a fix for htis bug ?
[16:09] <n8tuser> unitedroad-> if i understood you,  ps -aux
[16:09] <elad> How do I get ls to show files with their full path?
[16:10] <kaie> eseven73, ok thanks
[16:10] <elad> (For ls -R)
[16:10] <Jimmymaniac> adelie42: Google found something, i as usual overlooked the obvious: On the folder properties dialog box, on permissions, there's an "apply permissions to contents" button, doh! :)
[16:10] <tsepesh> how can i run 3 command in this order command1 -> command 2 -> command3 and redirect all the error in a file without a script???
[16:10] <bogdan_> n8tuser, no response :(
[16:10] <Jimmymaniac> thanks :)
[16:10] <MindSpark> hi, is there a cool phone book app for ubuntu ?
[16:10] <mobi-sheep> elad: ls -al ?
[16:10] <n8tuser> bogdan_-> then check the far end if it is active (<IP_ADDRESS>)
[16:10] <gartral> SixThreeOh: bring your machine up to 8.04
[16:10] <kromar> recon691: strange, i removed and installed it 3 times now and after the 3d time the playlist shows again...
[16:10] <SealedWithAKiss> MerlinW, httpd.conf is empty. What do I need to do?
[16:10] <unitedroad> nn8user, I mean not just the ones that are currently running, but all that have ever been run since the system's been on
[16:10] <kromar> recon691:bit buggy i would guess
[16:11] <bogdan_> n8tuser, how do i do that ?
[16:11] <elad> I want the full path in the same line as the filename, so I can grep it.
[16:11] <unitedroad> n8user ^
[16:11] <n8tuser> bogdan_-> call the owner at the remote end to check and verify
[16:11] <epaphus> hi guys, how can I enable firestarter and make sure it stays enabled even after a reboot?
[16:11] <recon691> kromar: lol, hate it when those type of thing happen
[16:11] <gartral> hello... i am having serious issues wuith mounting an appearently damnaged fat32 filesystem.... full(er) info at http://ubuntuforums.org/private.php?folderid=0 updated, i can use MTP mode in OFW
[16:11] <bogdan_> n8tuser, :) well it works on windows
[16:11] <jbwiv> guys, I'm using Jaunty on a box with an NVIDIA card and using the default built-in drivers to split the screen across two monitors. When I do, I can't drag a window all the way across the second monitor...it seems to hang and get stuck about 10% of the way across. Should I still use NVIDIA's drivers on Jaunty, or should the default ones work?
[16:11] <SixThreeOh> gartral: how? dist-upgrade is out of the picture here.
[16:11] <mobi-sheep> elad: No idea since you know you're looking in <a certain directory>.  I usually use tree to display structures in file/directory.
[16:11] <kromar> recon691: i guess your not alone^
[16:11] <joaopinto> SealedWithAKiss, you need to change the owner of your webroot contents to www-data
[16:11] <alleykat> elad, "man ls"
[16:11] <adelie42> Jimmymaniac: :) hmm... I assumed that wasn't working
[16:11] <sarmisak> elad: for i in `ls -R`; do echo "$i"; done
[16:12] <kromar> recon691: at least it works again:D
[16:12] <gartral> SixThreeOh: why cant/wont you upgrade?
[16:12] <n8tuser> bogdan_-> perhaps you want to stay in windows then?
[16:12] <Seven_Six_Two> tsepesh, command1 >> file.txt && command2 >> file.txt && command3 >> file.txt
[16:12] <MerlinW> SealedWithAKiss, apache2.conf?
[16:12] <sarmisak> those are not ', but `
[16:12] <bogdan_> n8tuser, no way
[16:12] <dreham> hi, im having MAJOR slow graphics in jaunty with the open source ati drivers. i have a few small errors in xorg.0.log, can anyone help?
[16:12] <MerlinW> SixThreeOh, update-manager -d ?
[16:12] <SixThreeOh> gartral if it involves *reinstalling"... not possible.
[16:12] <elad> What's that "done"?
[16:12] <SixThreeOh> -bash: update-manager: command not found
[16:12] <recon691> kromar: how i just wish i had a fix for my problem
[16:12] <sarmisak> elad: it's bash programming language
[16:13] <elad> Ah.
[16:13] <sarmisak> elad: do; .... ; done
[16:13] <tommacco> offtopic, but anyone here confident in trig/geometry?
[16:13] <tsepesh> Seven_Six_Two: thank you
[16:13] <sarmisak> tommacco: why :)
[16:13] <MerlinW> SixThreeOh, or try put intrepid repos in ur sources
[16:13] <bogdan_> n8tuser, it worked in 8.10 and after upgrade was dead :)
[16:13] <jbwiv> guys, I'm using Jaunty on a box with an NVIDIA card and using the default built-in drivers to split the screen across two monitors. When I do, I can't drag a window all the way across the second monitor...it seems to hang and get stuck about 10% of the way across. Should I still use NVIDIA's drivers on Jaunty, or should the default ones work?
[16:13] <travis_> hi is there a way to display gnome system monitor applet information in text mode?
[16:13] <SealedWithAKiss> joaopinto, changing the owner to www-data doesn't work.
[16:13] <gartral> SixThreeOh: you can jump without reinstalling my friend! your going from gutsy to hardy (i think)
[16:13] <elad> Anyway, that doesn't give me the filename along with its full path in the same line.
[16:13] <scapor> travis_: top ?
[16:13] <SealedWithAKiss> MerlinW, what do I need to edit in apache2.conf?
[16:13] <travis_> yeah
[16:13] <joaopinto> SealedWithAKiss, do you get the same error on the log ?
[16:13] <gartral> MerlinW: hes on 7.10 dude...
[16:14] <sarmisak> elad: have you tried using find instead of ls?
[16:14] <tommacco> sarmisak: given the two end points of a line segment (cartesian coordinates), I want to find the other end points of the square to which the original line segment is the diagonal
[16:14] <zzxxzz> Has anyone tried ext4 fs with 9.04?
[16:14] <SixThreeOh> how? apt can't get any useful files that it needs for dist-upgrade
[16:14] <tesseracter> hi. installed ubuntu 9.04, system now thinks a LONG time after I login. Checked .xsession-errors, gnome-session daemon Glib CRITICAL assert failed. ideas what to do next? i've still got wireless and command line.
[16:14] <n8tuser> bogdan_-> your mask <IP_ADDRESS> ? should it be not like <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[16:14] <travis_> itscapor: its actually 6 sqares with graphs
[16:14] <unitedroad> is there any any application that will help me achieve that if it not provided by any standard linux facility
[16:14] <elad> sarmisak, nope./
[16:14] <travis_> itscapor: I want it to be some text info
[16:14] <SealedWithAKiss> joaopinto, yeah.
[16:14] <bogdan_> n8tuser, that i get by dhcp i think :)
[16:14] <joaopinto> SealedWithAKiss, ls -ltrd /var/www/index.html
[16:14] <mobi-sheep> zzxxzz: Lot of brave people are using ext4 on Jaunty already.
[16:14] <regjava> In ubuntu 8.10 will wubi always try to install from the internet?
[16:14] <bogdan_> n8tuser, should i try and change it manually?
[16:14] <nick92> hello!
[16:14] <joaopinto> zzxxzz, I am using it
[16:15] <scapor> travis_: don't think I can help you further
[16:15] <nick92> Are there italians here?!?
[16:15] <Seven_Six_Two> zzxxzz, I read you should back up before you try it.
[16:15] <n8tuser> bogdan_-> you're using ppp , can you post your ppp config file?
[16:15] <dreham> zzxxzz: using it as well, so far so good
[16:15] <MerlinW> gartral, oh i see, then he need to burn a newer CD, and upgrade from that
[16:15] <tesseracter> unitedroad: make sure to have the topic in your single line question...
[16:15] <sarmisak> tommacco: if it's a square you first have to find out about the distance from the second point and on which axis it is
[16:15] <regeya> !it
[16:15] <gartral> SixThreeOh: update-manager will tell you about the upgrade