[02:32] <konki> can i browse/view in a window like explorer view, for example folders on the left hand column?
[02:32] <rob^> I get 50kbs, but then adsl does suck in this country
[02:33] <Howitzer> rob^, what country? (i'm on ADSL aswell)
[02:33] <Howitzer> wtf
[02:33] <rob^> Australia
[02:33] <Howitzer> weird
[02:33] <ivanox> I got 10mbit half duplex, and usually get around 300KB/s
[02:33] <mumbles> wtf
[02:33] <Howitzer> Totem doesn't play .wmv Oo
[02:33] <mumbles> im getting this error in xine
[02:33] <mumbles> the source cant be read.
[02:33] <Howitzer> Totem doesn't play anything
[02:33] <mumbles> mabey you dont have enought rights for this, or soure dosent contain data
[02:33] <apokryphos> mumbles: did you restart xine after installing the codecs?
[02:34] <mumbles> i hadent run it this session
[02:34] <Howitzer> wtf
[02:34] <rob^> brb
[02:34] <Howitzer> hey
[02:34] <Howitzer> i want that booty
[02:34] <apokryphos> I've had some .wmvs that didn't work in xine, regardless of having the codecs, not sure if it works with the ones you're trying..
[02:34] <mumbles> mines a dvd
[02:34] <apokryphos> Howitzer: ahem *cough* :)
[02:34] <gyaresu> rob^, what state?
[02:34] <rob^> gyaresu, qld
[02:34] <Howitzer> aft(er you apt-get the w32codecs, you should be able to play .wmv in Totem right?
[02:34] <gyaresu> rob^ tasmania here.
[02:34] <rob^> ah
[02:35] <Howitzer> is tasmania a state?
[02:35] <rob^> hehe
[02:35] <mumbles> !dvd
[02:35] <ubotu> mumbles: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:35] <gyaresu> rob^, state of mind.
[02:35] <mumbles> !dvd playback
[02:35] <ubotu> mumbles: I don't know
[02:35] <Howitzer> i thought it was some hairy spinning beast
[02:35] <mumbles> damm bot
[02:35] <gyaresu> ahahaha
[02:35] <Howitzer> !w32codecs
[02:35] <ubotu> w32codecs is probably a set of codecs needed to play many common audio and video formats, such as WMV. You can install w32codecs from the Backports repositories (see: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org).
[02:35] <rob^> ubotu tell mumbles about restricted formats
[02:35] <rob^> ubotu tell mumbles about restrictedformats
[02:36] <Howitzer> !mumbles
[02:36] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Howitzer
[02:36] <rob^> its on that page
[02:36] <Howitzer> !me
[02:36] <ubotu> Howitzer: I give up, what is it?
[02:36] <Howitzer> !totem
[02:36] <ubotu> Howitzer: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:36] <Howitzer> -_-
[02:36] <gyaresu> HostingGeek, /msg ubotu thing
[02:36] <Howitzer> ehh
[02:36] <gyaresu> Howitzer, /msg ubotu thing.
[02:36] <Howitzer> does anyone know howto enable the auto-loop function in Xine?
[02:37] <Howitzer> when you play a movie, it automaticly repeats when done
[02:37] <rob^> hmm.. that movie works for me
[02:37] <rob^> Howitzer, you dirty b*****
[02:37] <Howitzer> the only way i've found is right-click, playlist, loop
[02:37] <Howitzer> rob^, what?
[02:37] <Howitzer> :/
[02:38] <rob^> auto-repeat seggoftheyear
[02:38] <ivanox> hahhaah! pervert HostingGeek
[02:38] <ivanox> ops
[02:38] <ivanox> Howitzer,
[02:38] <Howitzer> Whaaaaaat
[02:38] <Howitzer> :(
[02:38] <ivanox> perv!!!
[02:38] <gyaresu> HostingGeek, ivanox is sorry.
[02:38] <mumbles> still no luck
[02:38] <mumbles> same error
[02:38] <Howitzer> anyway
[02:38] <ivanox> yes I am .. :(
[02:38] <Howitzer> i want to see that .wmv
[02:39] <gyaresu> ivanox, :)
[02:39] <Howitzer> now
[02:39] <ivanox> ;P
[02:39] <apokryphos> *cough*
[02:39] <Howitzer> why the hell won't Totem play while i do have the plugins
[02:39] <rob^> eh, well I have to get up early for the docteam meeting.. better get some sleep.
[02:39] <rob^> night all
[02:39] <apokryphos> rob^: cool, what time is that at?
[02:39] <gyaresu> night rob^
[02:39] <rob^> 2200z
[02:39] <apokryphos> rob^: is it in ubuntu-meeting?
[02:40] <zanaga> where should i put the sasl configuration for postfix?
[02:40] <rob^> the last one was in #ubuntu-doc I think, but it may end up being #ubuntu-meeting
[02:40] <apokryphos> rob^: right, thanks. :)
[02:40] <rob^> np
[02:40] <Howitzer> There were no decoders found to handle the stream in file "file:////tmp/keyra_1.wmv", you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[02:40] <Howitzer> -_-
[02:41] <Howitzer> it just won't play
[02:41] <Howitzer> i installed the w32codecs
[02:41] <zukalk> Howitzer, "keyra_1"? what kind of vid is that?
[02:41] <Howitzer> ehhh
[02:41] <zukalk> i thought so
[02:41] <zanaga> heh
[02:41] <Howitzer> not porn
[02:42] <trevi> hey...alguien desea chatear en espaol... ;o)
[02:42] <Howitzer> but it's close to porn
[02:42] <FlyingSquirrel33> I just installed fluxbox. How do I make it my wm?
[02:42] <gyaresu> trevi, you want the #ubuntu forum for spanish.
[02:43] <zukalk> FlyingSquirrel32, how did you install it?
[02:43] <Howitzer> FlyingSquirrel32, logout and select Fluxbox at the Sessions menu
[02:43] <gyaresu> what's the 2 letter denomination for spanish?
[02:43] <zth_> FlyingSquirrel32, log out, select it and i think there's a default options menu there
[02:43] <zukalk> !es
[02:43] <trevi> how I get in there
[02:43] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:43] <trevi> ok
[02:43] <Howitzer> (IF you installed it by sudo apt-get install)
[02:43] <zth_> !se
[02:43] <trevi> thanks
[02:43] <FlyingSquirrel33> zukalk: synaptic
[02:43] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, zth_
[02:43] <gyaresu> zukalk, nice one.
[02:43] <zth_> =)
[02:43] <Howitzer> !windows
[02:43] <ubotu> [windows]  Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[02:43] <Howitzer> rofl
[02:43] <zth_> !alternative
[02:43] <ubotu> alternative is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[02:43] <Howitzer> rofl :D
[02:43] <zukalk> FlyingSquirrel32, apt then. well, just logout and it'll be in the sessions menu
[02:44] <mumbles> argh
[02:44] <mumbles> still no luck with this damm dvd
[02:44] <zth_> ubotu has attitude problems
[02:44] <zth_> :)
[02:44] <ubotu> zth_: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[02:44] <FlyingSquirrel33> zukalk: cool.
[02:44] <zukalk> ubotu should be able to kick
[02:44] <ubotu> I don't know, zukalk
[02:45] <zukalk> yeah, you should
[02:45] <Howitzer> !attitude
[02:45] <ubotu> Howitzer: I haven't a clue
[02:45] <zukalk> lol
[02:45] <Howitzer> !ubotu
[02:45] <ubotu> well, ubotu is uh...   I have a Kubuntu related question.... could smn help me?
[02:46] <ValheruLord> is ubotu using blootbot
[02:46] <zth_> cong, #kubuntu
[02:46] <cong> thx
[02:46] <gyaresu> mumbles, what's the prob there?
[02:46] <zth_> but prolly someone could help you here too
[02:46] <ValheruLord> will ubuntu have a graphical bootsplash?
[02:46] <ethics> ubotu gay is when your drunk one night and something weird happens with a mate and then you call him the next day and ask if he wants to get drunk again.
[02:46] <ubotu> okay, ethics
[02:47] <mumbles> i get  some erros
[02:47] <rob^> umm
[02:47] <mumbles> unkown buffer type
[02:47] <zukalk> nice one ethics, now he won't forget that
[02:47] <rob^> that just added it to ubotus data base ethics
[02:47] <ethics> yeah it wont hurt 8)
[02:47] <zukalk> look at what you've done:
[02:47] <zukalk> !gay
[02:47] <ubotu> well, gay is when your drunk one night and something weird happens with a mate and then you call him the next day and ask if he wants to get drunk again.
[02:47] <zukalk> :P
[02:47] <gyaresu> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:47] <ethics> its not exactly an offensive version so nect time youll chuckle and go what a clool bot 8)
[02:48] <kl12> hi
[02:48] <zukalk> hi
[02:48] <gyaresu> !gay
[02:48] <ubotu> gyaresu: No idea
[02:48] <kl12> anyone knows how can i mount a hardisk?
[02:48] <zukalk> gyaresu, who erased it?
[02:48] <gyaresu> ?
[02:48] <mumbles> !gay ?
[02:48] <ubotu> mumbles: Are you smoking crack?
[02:48] <ethics> kl12 sudu mount -t fs /dev/hdX .dir/you/pick
[02:48] <gyaresu> kl12, yes.
[02:48] <Howitzer> damn
[02:49] <kl12> ok
[02:49] <mumbles> strange ... dammm dvd software
[02:49] <gyaresu> kl12, the -t fs really mean "type fileSystem"
[02:49] <kl12> ok
[02:49] <gyaresu> kl12, so don't just type in 'fs'
[02:49] <kl12> ok
[02:50] <kl12> bash: fs: command not found
[02:50] <gyaresu> !mount
[02:50] <ubotu> Wish i knew, gyaresu
[02:50] <cong> Hi there! i just switched to kubuntu via apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. Firefox is yet very much gnomish: it uses the gtk widgets, and, more important, the gnome font settings. They are weird (too small) in kubuntu. Any ideas how to fix that?
[02:51] <gyaresu> !ntfs
[02:51] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, ntfs is the filesystem used under Windows XP. The Ubuntu installer can safely resize an NTFS partition to create a new partition for you to install Ubuntu. http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[02:51] <Riddell> cong: install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
[02:51] <kl12> gyaresu bash: fs: command not found
[02:51] <cong> trying...
[02:52] <Howitzer> http://members.shaw.ca/seggoftheyear/Image20.jpg
[02:52] <Howitzer> holy hell
[02:52] <mumbles> sigh messabout  abit and still no luck
[02:52] <gyaresu> kl12, what type of filesystem are you trying to mount?
[02:52] <kl12> is a partition
[02:52] <kl12> linux
[02:52] <cong> Riddell: no luck so far, cant see a change after FF restart
[02:53] <Howitzer> cong, you installed a theme?
[02:53] <kl12> gyaresu is a partition in linux
[02:53] <cong> howither: an extra theme? no. Changed smtg in the default theme, tough
[02:54] <gyaresu> kl12, partitions are...
[02:55] <zukalk> kl12, partitions are formated in a specific filetype
[02:55] <zukalk> can be ntfs, vfat, ext3, etc
[02:55] <kl12> no formated
[02:55] <zukalk> what?
[02:55] <kl12> i do it whith fdisk
[02:55] <kl12> and it says is linux
[02:56] <gyaresu> kl12, ext2 or ext3?
[02:56] <kl12> how can i know that? i not sure
[02:56] <zukalk> gyaresu, can gparted tell that?
[02:57] <cong> kil12: you mean partition code 83, but gyaresu asks about the filesys, i think
[02:57] <ethics> gpart can guess but its more a recovery tool
[02:57] <gyaresu> zukalk, kl12 'fdisk -l /dev/hda'
[02:57] <kl12> ok
[02:57] <gyaresu> zukalk, kl12 or sda if it's a serial drive, or whatever drive it's on...
[02:57] <ed1t> splash screens are used for grub right?
[02:57] <ed1t> no wait
[02:58] <gyaresu> ed1t, only if you want grub to wait before it loads an OS
[02:58] <ed1t> gyaresu, i got win xp and ubuntu installed on grub
[02:58] <mumbles> whops forgot about the 2 minit silence
[02:59] <kl12> /dev/hdb1               1       14593   117218241   83  Linux
[02:59] <ed1t> gyaresu, wat you mean wait?
[02:59] <kl12> gyaresu /dev/hdb1               1       14593   117218241   83  Linux
[02:59] <ethics> ext3
[02:59] <Nermal> mumbles, me too :|
[02:59] <yonil> can some1 please help me, from some reason openGL based programs (like glxgears) dont work. they used to work 2 days ago, and when i launch the live-cd of ubuntu they work as well. how can i return to my default settings ?
[02:59] <gyaresu> ed1t, 83 is ext3
[02:59] <kl12> Disk /dev/hdb: 120.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>76 bytes
[02:59] <kl12> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders
[02:59] <kl12> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[02:59] <kl12>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   I
[02:59] <kl12> /dev/hdb1               1       14593   117218241   8
[02:59] <kl12> dsl-180-133:/home/kl12#
[03:00] <mumbles> cant even remember what i was doing then
[03:00] <devios> installing dnsmasq really helped me out... makes a big difference...
[03:00] <lfs> is it possible that using apt-get  it autoconfigures the packages instead of prompting the user with the package's cdialogs configuration ?
[03:01] <zukalk> yeah kl12 gyaresu, filetype is ext3
[03:01] <kl12> so what is that mean?
[03:01] <kl12> is posible?
[03:01] <ed1t> gyaresu, ?
[03:02] <gyaresu> ed1t, sorry, phone.
[03:02] <kl12> gyaresu is ext3
[03:02] <mumbles> anyone got any ideas on the dvd player ?
[03:02] <kl12> gyaresu so is any way can i mopunted that?
[03:02] <mumbles> yay ... real player works now
[03:02] <gyaresu> mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /mnt/somewhere
[03:02] <zukalk> wasn't it ext3?
[03:02] <kl12> ok
[03:03] <zukalk> kl12, make sure that /mnt/somewhere exists
[03:03] <kl12> ok
[03:03] <gyaresu> kl12, listen to zukalk
[03:04] <zukalk> gyaresu, you know more about this than i do
[03:04] <kl12> zukalk u think is ext3?
[03:04] <zukalk> let me see
[03:04] <zukalk> kl12, what's the partition you wanna add?
[03:05] <kl12> any one knows the comand to make a dir?
[03:05] <gyaresu> zukalk, /mnt/somewhere should exist :)
[03:05] <Markrian> kl12, mkdir
[03:05] <gyaresu> kl12, mkdir
[03:05] <kl12> ok
[03:05] <zukalk> gyaresu, :) well you never know
[03:06] <gyaresu> kl12, man mkdir
[03:06] <kl12> ok
[03:06] <gyaresu> k back now...
[03:06] <mumbles> going to make lunch
[03:07] <gyaresu> kl12, mkdir /media/hdb1 (for example)
[03:07] <kl12> ok
[03:08] <kl12> and now to monut is..
[03:08] <kl12> mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ?
[03:08] <gyaresu> ubotu, wiki is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WordIndex
[03:08] <gyaresu> !wordindex
[03:08] <ubotu> gyaresu: I haven't a clue
[03:09] <gyaresu> stupid ubotu
[03:09] <zukalk> !wiki
[03:09] <gyaresu> !wiki
[03:09] <kl12> gyaresu mount -t ext2 /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ?
[03:09] <gyaresu> kl12, yeah. but only temporarily...
[03:09] <zukalk> kl12, add 'sudo'
[03:09] <kl12> ok
[03:09] <gyaresu> kl12, do you want it permanently?
[03:09] <Howitzer> pfieuw
[03:10] <Howitzer> i finally downloaded all the photo's from seggoftheyear
[03:10] <thenuke> is kernel <IP_ADDRESS> yet available?
[03:10] <gyaresu> kl12, then you need to add an entry to your /etc/fstab
[03:10] <kl12> gyaresu yes
[03:10] <gyaresu> kl12, :)
[03:10] <Howitzer> oh
[03:10] <Howitzer> gyaresu, why did you leave ubuntu-offtopic? :'(
[03:10] <tritium> thenuke, 2.6.8 is old.  2.6.10 is in hoary.  2.6.12 in breezy. 2.6.11 is unsupported
[03:10] <zukalk> kl12, did it work? can you see what's in /media/hdb1?
[03:11] <kl12> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
[03:11] <gyaresu> Howitzer, cause i only made sure it was there to direct people to. those who were having 'chats'
[03:11] <zukalk> well use ext3 then
[03:11] <zukalk> gyaresu, gotcha, i was right ;)
[03:11] <Howitzer> ooh
[03:11] <kl12> yes bout ext2 ext3
[03:11] <Howitzer> but nobody is having chats :(
[03:11] <gyaresu> kl12, if you don't specify then it will auto detect for you...
[03:12] <kl12> ok
[03:12] <gyaresu> kl12, i'm still looking for the wiki entry
[03:12] <tritium> gyaresu, which one?
[03:12] <gyaresu> tritium, something generic on mounting...
[03:13] <gyaresu> kl12, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WordIndex
[03:13] <yonil> How can i re-install my kernel ? (i think i messed some drivers)
[03:13] <gyaresu> kl12, no sorry.
[03:13] <gyaresu> kl12, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[03:13] <kl12> ok
[03:14] <tritium> yonil, which ones?  You shouldn't need a kernel reinstall.
[03:14] <gyaresu> kl12, it's not right though.
[03:14] <zukalk> gyaresu, i thought he had a linux partition, not MS
[03:14] <yonil> tritium, this one: /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/drivers/char/drm/i830.ko
[03:14] <kl12> yes is a linux partition
[03:14] <gyaresu> kl12, you just need .... zukalk :exactly.
[03:14] <tritium> kl12, windows?  See this: http://ubuntuguide.org/#windows
[03:15] <kl12> is linux
[03:15] <tritium> yonil, did you delete it?
[03:15] <kl12> nothing to do whith winbus
[03:15] <Howitzer> Hey ehh, could anyone tell me the difference between a Tanga and a String? (join #ubuntu-offtopic)
[03:16] <gyaresu> kl12, it's actually really simple and should be in the wiki :) but it's not....
[03:16] <yonil> tritium, nope, ive over-written it with something else, anyway im not sure its the only thing messed up, im having issues which re-installing xorg didnt solve, so re-installing the kernel might work ..
[03:16] <tritium> yonil, "sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-2.6.10-5-386"
[03:16] <kl12> gyaresu is not mounted jet :/
[03:16] <yonil> tritium, thanks
[03:17] <gyaresu> kl12, '/dev/hdb        /home/gyaresu/hdb ext3  rw,user,auto    0       0'
[03:17] <gyaresu> kl12, that's one of my boxes...
[03:18] <kl12> ok, but is any whay can i do the same in mine?
[03:18] <gyaresu> kl12, preface comments with name and people like me get beeps :)
[03:18] <mumbles> !flash
[03:18] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, mumbles
[03:18] <gyaresu> kl12, yes you can.
[03:19] <k31th> ??
[03:19] <mumbles> !flash player
[03:19] <ubotu> mumbles: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:19] <kl12> gyaresu how is that then if posible
[03:19] <apokryphos> !flash
[03:19] <ubotu> apokryphos: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:19] <apokryphos> hmm
[03:20] <gyaresu> kl12, yours is '/dev/hdb1 /media/something ext3 rw,user,auto  0  0'
[03:20] <ethics> apokryphos, apt-cache search flash
[03:20] <ed1t> there is no boot or grub directory in /etc
[03:20] <apokryphos> ethics: I don't need to install it, just thought ubotu had an entry; no worry, I'll add it
[03:21] <gyaresu> kl12, if not then http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl your /etc/fstab
[03:21] <ethics> and apt-cache search flash doesnt solve?
[03:21] <kl12> bash: /dev/hdb1: Permission denied
[03:21] <apokryphos> ubotu: flash is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:21] <ubotu> apokryphos: okay
[03:21] <gyaresu> kl12, and your 'fdisk -l /dev/hdb'
[03:21] <gyaresu> kl12, sudo
[03:21] <gyaresu> !tell kl12 about sudo
[03:22] <ethics> apokryphos, ahh i c wiki links
[03:22] <Howitzer> OOOOOOOOMFG
[03:22] <gyaresu> kl12, after editing you need to 'sudo mount -a'
[03:22] <gyaresu> kl12, to mount 'everything'
[03:22] <mumbles> herm ... wtf this website says i need Macromedia Flash Player
[03:22] <mumbles> erm
[03:22] <mumbles> shockwave even
[03:22] <apokryphos> mumbles: then install it
[03:22] <mumbles> cant find the download
[03:23] <kl12> is very dificul maybe i gonna install only one hardisk then
[03:23] <Jonax> Any recommend a program for making an ISO/BIN image from a CD?
[03:23] <gyaresu> kl12, type my name if you talk to me cause i rely on the beeps to notify me of a message....
[03:23] <gyaresu> kl12, not difficult....
[03:23] <gyaresu> kl12, paste those files for me.
[03:24] <kl12> gyaresu which files?
[03:24] <gyaresu> kl12, files/outputs, same/same.
[03:24] <ethics> jonax k3b ?  overkill but prolly the most advanced writing package....nero for linux so to speak
[03:24] <gyaresu> kl12, 'cat /etc/fstab'
[03:24] <kl12> ok
[03:24] <gyaresu> kl12, and 'fdisk -l /dev/hdb'
[03:24] <Jonax> ethics: Could do, but I was wondering if there was a GNOME equivalent :)
[03:25] <gyaresu> kl12, but in the paste bin http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[03:25] <uRolph> How do I install GCC, it seems like it hasn't come with my Ubuntu CD
[03:25] <ethics> Jonax, gnomebaker i think
[03:25] <gyaresu> kl12, or in channel #flood
[03:25] <tritium> Jonax, gnomebaker and graveman
[03:25] <ethics> jonax never played with it
[03:25] <Jonax> I'll have a check for them - Thanks tritium & ethics :)
[03:25] <ethics> jonax np
[03:26] <kl12> gyaresu http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/567
[03:26] <ed1t> i got suse installed and i got a splash screen from suse, so if i format that drive will i get back my ubuntu grub loader back/
[03:26] <ed1t> ?
[03:26] <kafeine> uRolph, impossible?
[03:27] <gyaresu> kl12, so 'cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak'
[03:27] <uRolph> well I'm trying to compile something
[03:27] <kafeine> maybe you didnt install it
[03:27] <gyaresu> kl12, then vi or gedit the file /etc/fstab
[03:27] <devios> uRolph: apt-get install build-essential
[03:27] <kafeine> but it is definetely in the cd contents
[03:27] <ethics> uRolph, apt-get build-essentioal?
[03:27] <tritium> uRolph, it's not included by default.  Please see devios comment.
[03:28] <ethics> build-essential
[03:28] <gyaresu> kl12, what folder did you create to mount /dev/hdb1 on?
[03:28] <tritium> correct as usual, Uncle Friday
 HostingGeek, /msg ubotu thing
[03:28] <gyaresu> kl12, or have you made a folder?
[03:28] <HostingGeek> wtf???
[03:28] <uRolph> zlib missing - please install first or check config.log
[03:28] <uRolph> zlib is that another package?
[03:28] <tritium> uRolph, what gave you that?
[03:29] <kl12> gyaresu /dedia/hdb1
[03:29] <gyaresu> HostingGeek, TAB complete has been going to you instead of Howitzer
[03:29] <uRolph> trying to install vnc2swf
[03:29] <uRolph> from src
[03:29] <HostingGeek> ahh
[03:29] <ed1t> wat was the command to format a partition?
[03:29] <gyaresu> kl12, /media/hdb1 or /dedia/hdb1  ???
[03:29] <kl12> gyaresu /media/hdb1
[03:29] <ethics> ed1t, mkfs
[03:29] <gyaresu> kl12, cool
[03:30] <gyaresu> kl12, then have you got your text editing programme openn?
[03:30] <kl12> gyaresu yes
[03:30] <Markrian> Jonax, to make an iso file from a CD, do 'dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cd.iso'
[03:30] <ed1t> ethics, i wanna format the ext3 parititon i have right now...so mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda6?
[03:30] <ethics> ed1t, sounds close 8)
[03:30] <tritium> uRolph, if you need zlib to build it, you'll need to install "zlib1g-dev"
[03:30] <tritium> Any other build-depends you have?
[03:30] <gyaresu> kl12, put a comment in on the line above where you want to edit with a leading 'hash'
[03:31] <gyaresu> kl12, #my  second hard drive
[03:31] <kl12> ok
[03:31] <ed1t> how do i unmound a drive?
[03:31] <tritium> umount
[03:31] <uRolph> apparently it's already the latest version.
[03:31] <ethics> ed1t, umount /moiunt/point
[03:32] <tritium> uRolph, which?
[03:32] <ethics> need dev libs maybee?
[03:32] <ed1t> thx
[03:32] <gyaresu> kl12, then (without the apostrophe) '/dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 ext3 rw,user,auto  0  0'
[03:33] <tritium> I gave him the name of the -dev lib
[03:33] <gyaresu> kl12, (my girl just got here so i'm a little distracted)
[03:33] <ethics> gyaresu, enter after the line
[03:33] <gyaresu> kl12, i'm still here though.
[03:33] <uRolph> tritium, zlib1g-dev
[03:33] <kl12> gyaresu is not writing
[03:33] <gyaresu> kl12, ?
[03:33] <jesper> Hi, is it possible to find a precompilet 2.6.12 kernel for Hoary (AMD64-SMP) somewhere?
[03:33] <gyaresu> kl12, you can't edit?
[03:33] <jdbecker1968> hi, can someone help with ndiswrapper on Hoary?
[03:33] <kl12> gyaresu i try to type and nothing hapend
[03:33] <gyaresu> kl12, did you 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab'
[03:34] <apokryphos> !ndiswrapper
[03:34] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[03:34] <kl12> ok
[03:34] <gyaresu> kl12, or 'sudo vi /etc/fstab'
[03:34] <gyaresu> kl12, ?
[03:34] <kl12> vi
[03:34] <jdbecker1968> ubotu, i've built with module-assistant
[03:34] <ubotu> jdbecker1968: Are you smoking crack?
[03:34] <Amaranth> anyone here dual-boot windows and linux? when i tell grub to boot windows it just shows the commands from the menu.lst file and sits there
[03:34] <gyaresu> kl12, coo. sudo?
[03:34] <kl12> ok
[03:34] <Amaranth> jesper: Why do you need 2.6.12?
[03:35] <jdbecker1968> but when i try to modprobe it i get "Operation not permitted"
[03:35] <jdbecker1968> not on crack
[03:35] <ethics> lots of amd stuff in 2.6.12
[03:35] <jesper> The QLogic FC driver isn't in 2.6.11
[03:35] <Amaranth> jdbecker1968: you need to sudo
[03:35] <Amaranth> jesper: the 2.6.11 kernel in hoary is crack, don't use it at all
[03:35] <jdbecker1968> Amaranth, i'm root
[03:35] <kl12> gyaresu kl12 is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[03:35] <Amaranth> the only 2.6.12 kernels i know of are for breezy
[03:36] <jesper> Amaranth: Would you recommend them?
[03:36] <jdbecker1968> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[03:36] <ethics> apm & cpu stepping stuff...no idea on amd64 specific ones tho
[03:36] <apokryphos> kl12: you have to add yourself to the subdoers file...
[03:36] <kl12> how?
[03:36] <tritium> kl12, use visudo
[03:36] <feugan3333> Hi all. I've seen that on some other distributions when using vi, syntax highlighting is available when editting "code" file. Why is this not available on ubuntu?
[03:36] <kl12> ok
[03:36] <gyaresu> tritium, kl12 you can't visudo if you cna't sudo
[03:36] <kl12> ok
[03:36] <ethics> feugan3333, put syntax on in vim and use that
[03:37] <Amaranth> jesper: not on hoary
[03:37] <apokryphos> kl12: what user did you first put on Ubuntu?
[03:37] <gyaresu> kl12, did you install the system with a different username?
[03:37] <Amaranth> jesper: you'd need to pull in a new glibc and everything else to use them
[03:37] <apokryphos> kl12: you should use that user to give yourself sudo perms
[03:37] <gyaresu> kl12, cause that is weird.
[03:37] <tritium> gyaresu, yes, he'll need to add the users he wants with a user that has sudo priveleges
[03:37] <ethics> feugan3333, id guess thats what youve seen its the common vim user way
[03:37] <kl12> bash: visudo: command not found
[03:37] <apokryphos> gyaresu: in theory there must always be one sudu user
[03:37] <mumbles> pah
[03:38] <mumbles> restarting to xp couse i cant rememeber my mail settings
[03:38] <apokryphos> kl12: you're typing sudo visudo?
[03:38] <gyaresu> tritium, kl12 tritium is right but if you don't have any other users then you'll need to restart in 'single user mode'
[03:38] <jesper> Amaranth: Are you sure about that.. it sound extremely odd in my ears.
[03:38] <Amaranth> jesper: Pretty sure. This is what the ubuntu kernel team has said.
[03:38] <ThreeDayMonk> every time the ubuntu updater runs, it breaks my apache2 config :-(
[03:38] <ethics> mount all
[03:38] <h08817> hello everyone i have had a little trouble with booting to cd
[03:39] <h08817> i get this error message:
[03:39] <jesper> Amaranth: Ok.
[03:39] <feugan3333> Ethics: Ahh I see, I did'nt know that vim and vi where different. Thanks ":help syntax" will guide me from here on.
[03:39] <kl12> gyaresu im there
[03:40] <gyaresu> kl12, single user mode? or got some sudo?
[03:40] <ethics> ThreeDayMonk, theres a way to tell apt not to update a package..cant remember how th off hand
[03:40] <kl12> gyaresu in the second line i put that?
[03:40] <h08817> isolinux:Loading spec packet failed, trying to wing it   isolinux: Extremely broken bios detected,  last ditch attempt with drive = FF
[03:40] <kl12> gyaresu sudo
[03:40] <ethics> feugan3333,  np glad to help
[03:40] <xliu> which news-reader do you usually use?
[03:40] <h08817> isolinux: Disck error 01, AX = 4210, drive FF
[03:40] <ThreeDayMonk> ethics: yeah, but even when updating, it shouldn't break my config files
[03:40] <gyaresu> kl12, anywhere in that file (at the bottom for instance)
[03:40] <jesper> Amaranth: Do you have anye recommendations to the problem then? (AMD64-SMP with Ubuntu and a 2.6.12-kernel)
[03:41] <kl12> ok
[03:41] <ethics> ThreeDayMonk, true any ideas why?
[03:41] <Amaranth> jesper: I guess you'd have to switch to breezy or compile it yourself.
[03:41] <ntoll> hi.... how long does it take for Debian bugfixes to get into Hoary via debzilla?
[03:41] <feugan3333> ethics: vim and vi *are* the same program
[03:41] <h08817> isolinux:Loading spec packet failed, trying to wing it   isolinux: Extremely broken bios detected,  last ditch attempt with drive = FF
[03:41] <h08817> ?
[03:41] <jesper> Has Breezy cooled a bit down these days?
[03:42] <ethics> ntoll depends debian is different...it can be easy and hard
[03:42] <kl12> gyaresu to write is w?
[03:42] <tritium> ThreeDayMonk, it should ask you if you want to overwrite configuration files that have changed.  Say "no" to that in the future.
[03:42] <Amaranth> vi points to /etc/alternatives/vi which points to /usr/bin/vim
[03:42] <gyaresu> jesper, "PLEASE DON'T USE BREEZY YET -- REALLY "
[03:42] <Amaranth> :D
[03:42] <ntoll> ethics, its updating Ruby to the final release
[03:42] <ethics> feugan3333, hehe see thats why us nano and MC users arnt as helpfull heheh  no clues
[03:42] <ThreeDayMonk> tritium: I'll make a f**king backup next time :-)
[03:42] <gyaresu> kl12, yes and :wq is "write and quit"
[03:42] <jesper> gyaresu: Any reasons ? :-)
[03:42] <Amaranth> if you only use stuff from main and don't care about X breaking a lot breezy is fine :)
[03:42] <xliu> Hi , does anyone knows how to join USENET?
[03:43] <tritium> ThreeDayMonk, but that's the point.  You shouldn't need to.
[03:43] <Amaranth> xliu: Your ISP needs to provide a news server.
[03:43] <kl12> ok
[03:43] <gyaresu> jesper, yesterday X was totally bjorked.
[03:43] <ThreeDayMonk> tritium: I know.  It's fine on Debian, which is why I'm surprised
[03:43] <Amaranth> gyaresu: was not
[03:43] <lcdd> jesper: qlogic provides their own drivers, try them
[03:43] <ThreeDayMonk> It seems to be the "smart" setting on the updater tray utility that does it...
[03:43] <gyaresu> Amaranth, take it to ubuntu-bleedingedge :)
[03:43] <jesper> Well, Ok, then I need to get the breezy-kernel backported to Hoary .
[03:43] <xliu> Amaranth, so which USENET server and client are usually used now?
[03:43] <mannyc> ok...got a serious problem with gnome-cups-manager
[03:44] <ThreeDayMonk> xliu: use pan
[03:44] <mannyc> can anyone help?
[03:44] <Amaranth> xliu: thunderbird does usenet if you have a news server
[03:44] <tritium> ThreeDayMonk, that deserved a bug report, if it didn't ask you before wiping your configuration file.
[03:44] <h08817> help with install please?
[03:44] <Amaranth> gyaresu: no, that's ok
[03:44] <Amaranth> gyaresu: X was fine yesterday
[03:44] <kl12> gyaresu i type wq and is only typing wq
[03:44] <ThreeDayMonk> tritium: unfortunately I didn't pay close enough attention to what happened, so it's hard to be specific.  I discovered the problem later
[03:44] <Amaranth> gyaresu: I'm the one that told everyone to not upgrade, we had one bad build of X which was fixed in about an hour
[03:45] <xliu> thanks, Amaranth and ThreeDayMonk!
[03:45] <tritium> ThreeDayMonk, ok
[03:45] <gyaresu> kl12, delete that and when it's good you should hit ESC and then :wq
[03:45] <kl12> ok
[03:45] <ThreeDayMonk> xliu: look at your ISP's help page, or take a guess:  nntp.example.com/news.example.com is a good start (where example.com is your ISP's domain for mail or www)
[03:45] <gyaresu> kl12, vimtutor for an interactive tutorial...
[03:45] <toasta> hello
[03:46] <mannyc> ok...I don System>Administration>Printing and gnome-cups-manager won't start
[03:46] <luzbelito> hi to all. anyone can help me to copy .MDS file to video DVD with k3b or any other program please???
[03:46] <kl12> gyaresu is done
[03:46] <toasta> could someone tell me the best way to install a tar.gz file, i downloaded some gnome art and i want to install it
[03:46] <gyaresu> Amaranth, I'll defer to you on breezy questions then...
[03:46] <gyaresu> Amaranth, :)
[03:46] <mannyc> nor will it start from term (and it doesn't produce any error messages)
[03:46] <gyaresu> Amaranth, good luck...
[03:46] <gyaresu> kl12, 'mount -a'
[03:46] <Amaranth> gyaresu: Using it now, working fine.
[03:46] <kl12> ok
[03:47] <ethics> toasta most of gnome handles tar.gs aatpicking
[03:47] <thierry_> toasta : well it depens on what you downloaded exactly, is a theme, or a wallpaper, etc... ?
[03:47] <toasta> i dl a icon theme and a window border theme
[03:47] <kl12> gyaresu mount -a dont show anything
[03:47] <luzbelito> hi to all. anyone can help me to copy .MDS file to video DVD with k3b or any other program please???
[03:47] <toasta> from art.gnome
[03:48] <gyaresu> kl12, good :)
[03:48] <gyaresu> kl12, type 'mount' now...
[03:48] <kl12> ok
[03:49] <ed1t> k i just deleted suse's partition and now my grub is not working
[03:49] <ed1t> i have ubuntu and win xp installed
[03:49] <ethics> toasta try just installing it via the destop prefs i think they expect tars
[03:49] <kl12> gyaresu is not mounted
[03:49] <ed1t> i have a prompt boot >
[03:49] <mannyc> actually...it does produce an error now: "Cups Server could not be contacted"
[03:49] <gyaresu> kl12, ?
[03:49] <gyaresu> kl12, mmmk.
[03:49] <ed1t> i mean grub >
[03:49] <kl12> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[03:49] <toasta> yeah i tried that and got an error
[03:50] <h08817> isolinux:Loading spec packet failed, trying to wing it   isolinux: Extremely broken bios detected,  last ditch attempt with drive = FF
[03:50] <h08817> any ideas?
[03:50] <thierry_> toasta : first unpack the files with file-roller (just double click on the file) and then open the README. Sometimes art stuff like that have special thing to do to install them
[03:50] <gyaresu> kl12, 'sudo mount -a'
[03:50] <action09> anybody has MD5Sums errors w/l and executing Enemy Teritory ?
[03:50] <action09> please
[03:50] <gyaresu> kl12, sorry.
[03:50] <kl12> ok
[03:50] <gyaresu> kl12, then 'mount'
[03:50] <toasta> cool thanks
[03:50] <thierry_> toasta : if you any problem tell me and I'll try to help you
[03:50] <toasta> thnks
[03:50] <ed1t> ethics when i rebooted my system, i got a prompt grub >
[03:50] <ed1t> wat do i type in?
[03:50] <action09> help
[03:51] <kl12> gyaresu /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro
[03:51] <ed1t> coz i guess the default grub loader was suse...but i formatted that partition
[03:51] <flow> hi guys.. does anyone know how to get firefox to use rox-filer instead of nautilus?
[03:51] <gyaresu> kl12, /dev/hda1 ???
[03:51] <gyaresu> kl12, /dev/hdb1 eh?
[03:51] <ed1t> hey gyaresu
[03:51] <ethics> ed1t, umm huh you mkfs in hdx6 or whatever and rebooted and got a boot prompt?
[03:51] <gyaresu> ed1t, yessum.
[03:51] <ed1t> yea
[03:51] <ed1t> ethics i did mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda6
[03:52] <kl12> /dev/hdb1
[03:52] <ed1t> now i got a grub> prompt on reboot
[03:52] <kl12> gyaresu /dev/hdb1
[03:52] <ethics> ed1t hmm well you got a prompt so maybe you just killed  the menu.list
[03:52] <ed1t> bah
[03:52] <gyaresu> kl12, if that is the partition you wish to mount then you might want to re-edit the /etc/fstab
[03:53] <ed1t> how do i activate ubuntu's menu.lst?
[03:53] <ethics> ed1t  remember what it looked like?
[03:53] <ed1t> i got menu.lst in ubuntu
[03:53] <Nermal> ed1t, erm.. reinstall grub
[03:53] <gyaresu> kl12,  "kl12 gyaresu /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro"
[03:53] <ed1t> how?
[03:53] <Nermal> you should get a backup config file
[03:53] <kl12> gyaresu how do i do that?
[03:53] <BiSK-8> hello
[03:53] <ethics> you can boot a live cd and chroot accross and do a grub-install  i think
[03:53] <Nermal> apt-get install grub perhaps ?
[03:53] <ed1t> k
[03:53] <ed1t> lemme try that
[03:54] <Nermal> the config file will have a different extension so not to overwrite the one you foolishly changed
[03:54] <ethics> ed1t, i dont know the chroot process i read howtos hehe
[03:54] <gyaresu> kl12, i think it's just a typo
[03:54] <BiSK-8> i heve a little problem, when i put in a live cd i cant get on to the internet, i try ppoeconf, is seems to work but it wont connect. What should i do?
[03:54] <BiSK-8> have*
[03:54] <Nermal> ethics, chroot /another/partition /bin/bash
[03:54] <Nermal> not difficult
[03:54] <tanki> can i try to send someone a file over irc to see if it works
[03:54] <Nermal> BiSK-8, give us more information
[03:55] <Nermal> log outputs etc
[03:55] <gyaresu> kl12, make sure the entry from 'fdisk -l /dev/hdb' is the one you are mounting to /media/hdb1
[03:55] <ethics> Nermal, i think its the mounting proc and swap i forget or something hehe its rare i do it
[03:55] <tanki> any guiney pigs available
[03:55] <kl12> ok
[03:55] <Nermal> tanki, thought you just asked that
[03:56] <BiSK-8> that's all, i thy 2 configure my ethernet device by writing pppoeconf into shell, it seems to work but when i try to use firefox or connect to any internet host, it wont work
[03:56] <tanki> nermal, asked what?
[03:56] <Nermal> for someone to test irc file transfers to
[03:56] <Nermal> duh
[03:56] <mirak> is there a bittorrent client that handle queues ?
[03:56] <tanki> when did i ask that in here, except for just now
[03:56] <mirak> exepted azureus
 can i try to send someone a file over irc to see if it works
 any guiney pigs available
[03:56] <Nermal>  ^^ twice :)
[03:57] <apokryphos> mirak: KTorrent, Qtorrent, Bt one etc etc
[03:57] <tanki> uh huh
[03:57] <Nermal> ooh.. seb
[03:57] <mirak> I want something I can restart, and with all the torrents starting as well
[03:57] <mirak> apokryphos: and for gnome ?
[03:57] <apokryphos> mirak: the last one
[03:57] <BiSK-8> nermal: that's all, i thy 2 configure my ethernet device by writing pppoeconf into shell, it seems to work but when i try to use firefox or connect to any internet host, it wont work
[03:57] <Nermal> as I said.. log output
[03:57] <ThreeDayMonk> tritium: found the problem.  Apache's config is OK, but the update "fixed" the permissions on my home directory (removed a+x).
[03:57] <Nermal> "it won't work" is not a log output
[03:57] <watto> Now *Kubuntu Live* user here: Can I load the CD to ram to accelerate performace? I tried " kubuntu copy2ram " at the boot prompt, as I do in Slax, and I get a message that the kernal can't be found.
[03:57] <BiSK-8> nermal, u talkin' 2 me?
[03:57] <h08817> installation issues here
[03:57] <apokryphos> mirak: GNOME BitTorrent, that is
[03:58] <Nermal> BiSK-8, forget it.. I'm not prising the information out of you
[03:58] <h08817> need some help
[03:58] <mirak> apokryphos: it doesnet resume downloads automatically
[03:58] <BiSK-8> nermal, what????
[03:58] <apokryphos> mirak: sure it does
[03:58] <Nermal> if I have to spend all my energy getting the question, I'll have none left for giving the answer
[03:58] <tanki> hey mumbles can i try to send you something over irc
[03:58] <mirak> apokryphos: it doesnt
[03:58] <Howitzer> 3 questions:
[03:58] <apokryphos> mirak: I beg to differ, it's done so for me. You mike like bittornado though
[03:58] <mirak> apokryphos: if you shut down the window you must reselect the torrent file
[03:59] <apokryphos> GTK too, I believe
[03:59] <Howitzer> 1) how do i use a .deb archive
[03:59] <h08817> I have an installation issue here
[03:59] <apokryphos> mirak: Yes, obviously.
[03:59] <Howitzer> 2) how do i use a GDM theme
[03:59] <h08817> i get this error message: isolinux:Loading spec packet failed, trying to wing it   isolinux: Extremely broken bios detected,  last ditch attempt with drive = FF
[03:59] <mumbles> tanki,  you can try
[03:59] <apokryphos> Howitzer: dpkg -i {packagename}
[03:59] <mirak> apokryphos: that's what I don't want because I forget I have pending downloads ^^
[03:59] <gyaresu> h08817, /me has a spare moment...
[03:59] <Howitzer> 3) How do i change my grub splash image?
[03:59] <Howitzer> aaaaah
[03:59] <Howitzer> dpkg
[03:59] <Howitzer> okay
[03:59] <Howitzer> ty
[03:59] <gyaresu> Howitzer, irellevent.
[03:59] <apokryphos> mirak: you don't want bittornado?
[04:00] <apokryphos> mirak: what's wrong with azureus?
[04:00] <mumbles> no pdont work
[04:00] <Howitzer> and what about GDM themes?
[04:00] <apokryphos> mumbles: it doesn't work?
[04:00] <h08817> need help with install
[04:01] <tanki> if torrents couldn't be resumed, there would be a lot of angry people out there
[04:01] <h08817> please
[04:01] <apokryphos> tanki: they can be resumed
[04:01] <Howitzer> oh yeah
[04:01] <mumbles> dunno i  dcc never works for me
[04:01] <Howitzer> how do i open a .rar package?
[04:01] <ed1t> k i got live cd running....wat do i do now?
[04:01] <tanki> mumbles, nah it's probably me
[04:01] <mirak> apokryphos: it requires java
[04:01] <apokryphos> mumbles: that's not torrents...
[04:01] <Howitzer> file-roller doesn't seem to support it
[04:01] <apokryphos> mirak: so?
[04:01] <h08817> hey gyaresu
[04:01] <Howitzer> torrent sucks
[04:01] <h08817> ur back
[04:01] <gyaresu> h08817, :)
[04:01] <apokryphos> Howitzer: extract, you mean? rar x {packagename}
[04:02] <Howitzer> yes
[04:02] <h08817> ok
[04:02] <tanki> apokryphos, i know they can be resumed
[04:02] <apokryphos> Howitzer: why? Torrents are great
[04:02] <mirak> apokryphos: so I used it, but I don't want to lose time with java for now
[04:02] <Howitzer> but gui-style
[04:02] <Howitzer> torrents are slow
[04:02] <gyaresu> h08817, things happened.
[04:02] <h08817> ok
[04:02] <apokryphos> mirak: lose time? Why? Don't you have it installed/
[04:02] <Howitzer> torrents have (to me) always a sucky ratio of 1/7 (download/uploaded)
[04:02] <h08817> gyuaresu: I get this error when i try to boot to the cd
[04:02] <mirak> apokryphos: do you have a mirror ?
[04:02] <h08817> isolinux:Loading spec packet failed, trying to wing it   isolinux: Extremely broken bios detected,  last ditch attempt with drive = FF
[04:02] <mirak> I don't remember mayb I installed it
[04:02] <apokryphos> !java
[04:02] <Howitzer> lol
[04:02] <ubotu> well, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:02] <KR-data> how do I set eth0 to use 10 mbiz/sec in stead of 100 mbit/sec?
[04:02] <apokryphos> mirak: check that
[04:03] <Leo_V2> :(
[04:03] <Howitzer> 'Extremely broken' XD
[04:03] <tanki> Howitzer, it really just depends on who's server you're o n
[04:03] <ashok> guys, can anyone help me in installing JRE pls. i have installed the package. but in vain
[04:03] <apokryphos> mirak: go for the "adding new repo" option there; will tkae a second
[04:03] <gyaresu> h08817, TAB completes names like gya(TAB)
[04:03] <tanki> like most p2p
[04:03] <Howitzer> tanki, i have that with every server :(
[04:03] <apokryphos> ashok: ....
[04:03] <apokryphos> !java
[04:03] <h08817> what?
[04:03] <apokryphos> heh, ubotu wants a 25 second gap
[04:03] <Leo_V2> does ubantu have networking features?
[04:03] <apokryphos> ashok: check the above java link
[04:03] <mirak> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
[04:03] <mirak> ?
[04:03] <Leo_V2> i want to use it to control my network conntection..
[04:03] <mirak> that's not sun java
[04:04] <h08817> gyaresu:  o gotcha
[04:04] <KR-data> how do I set eth0 to use 10 mbiz/sec in stead of 100 mbit/sec?
[04:04] <apokryphos> mirak: no, not that
[04:04] <gyaresu> h08817, name completion...
[04:04] <ashok> which link ?
[04:04] <gyaresu> h08817, cool.
[04:04] <apokryphos> mirak: sun-j2re1.5 package
[04:04] <h08817> gyaresu: so any ideas?
[04:04] <Leo_V2> halo..
[04:04] <gyaresu> h08817, imediately it sounds like you are on an old computer, yes?
[04:04] <ed1t> gyaresu my grub is not working, wat do i do install grub on my system? i have live cd on
[04:04] <Leo_V2> can some one help?
[04:04] <h08817> yes
[04:04] <Synergy> does anyone have a problem with the repositories
[04:04] <h08817> but it actually tries to boot to it
[04:05] <apokryphos> Synergy: if you're using us. archive -- yes
[04:05] <apokryphos> Synergy: see /topic
[04:05] <gyaresu> h08817, try the noacpi no(otherstuff) options as you are booting the kernel...
[04:05] <Leo_V2> does ubantu have server type features?
[04:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[04:05] <mirak> apokryphos: do you have the miror ?
[04:05] <h08817> what is that?
[04:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> i am with troubles with my printer, usb
[04:05] <Synergy> apokryphos, i use fr now but still got one error
[04:05] <gyaresu> h08817, just 'live' at the moment?
[04:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> how can i see wht is happening?
[04:05] <apokryphos> mirak: it's in the link I gave you above... not a mirror, repository
[04:05] <gyaresu> h08817, F3 for details....
[04:05] <Synergy> Fout http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/restrict Packages
[04:05] <Synergy>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[04:05] <gyaresu> h08817, and F4 etc.
[04:06] <h08817> when?
[04:06] <mirak> apokryphos: what link ?
[04:06] <apokryphos> Synergy: hm, server apparently down
[04:06] <apokryphos> !java
[04:06] <mirak> sorry I don't see it
[04:06] <ubotu> it has been said that java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[04:06] <KR-data> how do I set eth0 to use 10 mbit/sec in stead of 100 mbit/sec?
[04:06] <apokryphos> mirak: that one
[04:06] <ethics> Leo_V2, yes servr stuff here although debian stable would be the rock solid choice
[04:06] <gyaresu> h08817, live disk?
[04:06] <Amaranth> anyone here dual boot ubuntu and windows xp?
[04:06] <h08817> i downloaded it
[04:06] <Leo_V2> Me me!
[04:06] <apokryphos> Amaranth: :)
[04:06] <Leo_V2> i do
[04:06] <goldfish> Amaranth: i did.
[04:06] <Leo_V2> i do!
[04:06] <KR-data> Amaranth: do you use Grub?
[04:06] <Amaranth> yes
[04:06] <h08817> gyaresu: but i know the cd works b/c i installed on another computer i have
[04:06] <Leo_V2> how is it on your comP?
[04:06] <Amaranth> Windows XP is hd(1,0) to grub, i know that for a fact
[04:07] <Amaranth> it doesn't work though
[04:07] <Leo_V2> :\
[04:07] <ed1t> Amaranth i do
[04:07] <KR-data> Amaranth: Ok, to sek, I'll find my setup
[04:07] <Amaranth> choosing to boot winxp shows the grub commands on a black screen and just sits there
[04:07] <Leo_V2> i got some one to do it for me..
[04:07] <gyaresu> h08817, ...until it works on this comp then you prob need some help eh? :)
[04:07] <dylan_> how do i enable 3d acceleration?
[04:07] <KR-data> Amaranth:
[04:07] <KR-data> title Windoze
[04:07] <KR-data> map (hd0) (hd1)
[04:07] <KR-data> map (hd1) (hd0)
[04:07] <KR-data> chainloader (hd1,0)+1
[04:07] <ethics> amaranth if its the second drive you need to trick windows ...map
[04:07] <h08817> gyaresu: yes
[04:07] <gyaresu> h08817, is it the live cd you are trying to use? (yes_
[04:07] <gyaresu> )
[04:07] <Leo_V2> Anyone knows why the the whole GUI off my screen?
[04:07] <Amaranth> ah
[04:07] <tritium> dylan_, for which video card?
[04:08] <h08817> no
[04:08] <KR-data> Amaranth: I use Gentoo, but it should work with grub on any system
[04:08] <apokryphos> mirak: you can also apt-get for azureus
[04:08] <Leo_V2> my whole screen is off the monitor
[04:08] <mirak> apokryphos: ok, this mirror was passworded at some point
[04:08] <Leo_V2> not really whole
[04:08] <Leo_V2> but small part of it
[04:08] <h08817> gyaresu:  i downloaded the iso image and burned it with nero
[04:08] <KR-data> Amaranth: I don't know how to do it with Lilo :(
[04:08] <Aragorn_Guardian> how can i see wht is happening with my usb printer?
[04:08] <apokryphos> mirak: ah, check the Kubuntu guide for the gpg stuff
[04:08] <mirak> apokryphos: and azureus was not in the repository
[04:08] <ed1t> tritium my grub is not working, wat do i do install grub on my system from live cd?
[04:08] <mirak> apokryphos: thanks :)
[04:08] <dylan_> no card, integrated
[04:08] <KR-data> how do I set eth0 to use 10 mbit/sec in stead of 100 mbit/sec?
[04:08] <apokryphos> mirak: azureus is in multiverse I believe
[04:08] <Amaranth> KR-data: What's the full menu.lst entry?
[04:08] <Amaranth> KR-data: Just that?
[04:08] <apokryphos> !find azureus
[04:08] <tritium> ed1t, how is it not working?
[04:08] <gyaresu> h08817, so then i reckon you have an old bios that doesn't cope with Advanced Configuration and Power Interface http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACPI
[04:09] <tritium> dylan_, what chipset?
[04:09] <apokryphos> mirak: hm, perhaps not, it's in one of the others
[04:09] <KR-data> Amaranth: yeah for the Windows part
[04:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'azureus' (1 shown): (/usr/share/ubuntu-docs/C/common/menus/azureus.xml) in text/ubuntu-docs.
[04:09] <dylan_> dont know exactly, its on an hp pavilion a720n
[04:09] <Amaranth> KR-data: No root or makeactive?
[04:09] <KR-data> Amaranth: nop :)
[04:09] <h08817> gyaresu:  so what can i do about that?
[04:09] <Leo_V2> WHY is my screen a bit off the monitor?
[04:09] <horned> hello there how can i make my dvdwriter burn faster is the anyone who can help me?
[04:09] <Leo_V2> i can't find any fix for it
[04:09] <gyaresu> h08817, so you can disable boot time options like acpi when ubuntu first boots with options like noacpi'
[04:09] <ed1t> tritium well i had suse installed, and the grub was from suse, now i formated that partition and i forgot to re-install grub from ubuntu
[04:09] <apokryphos> Leo_V2: wrong resolution/refresh-rate?
[04:09] <ethics> Amaranth, you can have rootnoverify ..
[04:10] <othernoob> horned try enabling dma
[04:10] <Leo_V2> all set by deafult..
[04:10] <tritium> dylan_, look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tell me what driver it's using please.  Or, you can look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[04:10] <JohnFlux> Leo_V2: use the buttons on the monitor
[04:10] <KR-data> Amaranth: it works fine with me (besides that Windows fucks as usual, but  that will never change :p )
[04:10] <ethics> amaranth mine has it
[04:10] <gyaresu> h08817, k though i havn't done it myself. it's a knoppix option.
[04:10] <Amaranth> KR-data: Ok, I'm off to try it. If it doesn't work I'll ban you.   Give it a try, I guess.
[04:10] <dylan_> VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video
[04:11] <yvyn> alguno sabe manejar el ubuntu
[04:11] <h08817> well i wouldn't be on windows if my computer wasn't gay
[04:11] <ed1t> tritium nope
[04:11] <keikoz> VIA sux too xD
[04:11] <KR-data> tritium: if you can't I know you can from the Gentoo cd ;)
[04:11] <goldfish> yvyn: #ubuntu-es
[04:11] <mirak> apokryphos: ok it was already installed lol
[04:11] <dylan_> i want to be able to use 3d desktop
[04:11] <Leo_V2> still
[04:11] <ed1t> tritium is there any other way? i got a grub> prompt on boot
[04:11] <h08817> any1 here speak spanish
[04:11] <tritium> KR-data, thanks.  Good to know.
[04:11] <gyaresu> tritium, it use to be that you had to moun all the partitions and then chroot to the boot part....
[04:11] <tritium> h08817, #ubuntu-es
[04:11] <apokryphos> mirak: :)
[04:11] <KR-data> tritium: hehe np :)
[04:11] <goldfish> Better to install grub manually.
[04:11] <Leo_V2> we need windows for the active x features
[04:11] <JohnFlux> h08817: "any1" isn't a word in any language
[04:11] <h08817> i can but i don't know ubuntu so i can't really help that spanish dude
[04:11] <yvyn> ?
[04:11] <h08817> lol
[04:12] <h08817> ok
[04:12] <gyaresu> !tell h08817 es
[04:12] <h08817> back to my problem
[04:12] <tritium> gyaresu, that is a better option.  I agree.
[04:12] <ed1t> tritium i also got menu.lst on ubuntu and i know its working
[04:12] <gyaresu> !es
[04:12] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:12] <Kyynara> !remove
[04:12] <ubotu> Kyynara: I don't know, could you explain it?
[04:12] <mirak> apokryphos: hum where is azureus (repository ) ?
[04:12] <mirak> apokryphos: are you on breezy or something ?
[04:12] <h08817> so any ideas guyaresu
[04:12] <dylan_> any ideas tritium?
[04:12] <Kyynara> sorry about that
[04:12] <apokryphos> mirak: not sure, but if you put in all the repos in the kudos guide you'll definitely have it
[04:12] <KR-data> how do I set eth0 to use 10 mbit/sec in stead of 100 mbit/sec, so I can get the Internet working on my sisters Ubuntu-box?
[04:12] <tritium> dylan_, I'm not aware of 3d accel for VIA chipsets.  Sorry.
[04:13] <dylan_> ok
[04:13] <gyaresu> h08817, TAB complete h08817 (i need the beeps :)   )
[04:13] <apokryphos> Anyone know of a command-line option to find the repository which gives a given package?
[04:13] <dylan_> it could be done under windows
[04:13] <lcdd> KR-data: mii-tool
[04:13] <Amaranth> KR-data: Congrats, you can stay. :)
[04:13] <watto> Can the KubuntuLive CD be loaded into ram to boost performance?
[04:13] <h08817> gyaresu: when do i hit tab?
[04:13] <Amaranth> KR-data: thanks
[04:13] <KR-data> Amaranth: np :)
[04:13] <ed1t> tritium is there any other way? i got a grub> prompt when i reboot
[04:13] <h08817> o
[04:13] <gyaresu> h08817, after a couple of letters....
[04:13] <lcdd> KR-data: or ethtool
[04:13] <mirak> apokryphos: kudos ?
[04:13] <h08817> gyaresu: so can u help me?
[04:13] <apokryphos> !kudos
[04:13] <ubotu> kudos is probably at http://kudos.berlios.de
[04:13] <KR-data> Amaranth: I had my troubles too, so it is nice that it worked
[04:13] <tim> what is GNU/Hurd?
[04:14] <h08817> gyaresu:  and what beeps?
[04:14] <apokryphos> mirak: the Kubuntu FAQ
[04:14] <gyaresu> h08817, yes...
[04:14] <KR-data> lcdd: thanks I'll try
[04:14] <Amaranth> KR-data: stupid windows, has to complain about everything
[04:14] <tritium> ed1t, you can edit the boot stanza and boot into your ubuntu installation.  Then, re-run "sudo grub-install"
[04:14] <h08817> gyaresu: what do i need to do to fix my problem?
[04:14] <gyaresu> h08817, the computer my IRC prog is on :)
[04:14] <Amaranth> KR-data: it spent 1 minute figuring out i had two HDs installed now :)
[04:14] <yvyn> thank you
[04:15] <gyaresu> h08817, "gyaresu h08817, so you can disable boot time options like acpi when ubuntu first boots with options like noacpi'"
[04:15] <yonil> how can i check with application is using a device (i know its lsof but what parameters ?)
[04:15] <ed1t> tritium how do i do that?
[04:15] <yonil> s/with/witch
[04:15] <h08817> gyaresu: i am in windows
[04:15] <h08817> gyaresu: not linux
[04:15] <tritium> apokryphos, "apt-cache show <packagename>" will list that, along with a lot of other stuff
[04:15] <yonil> s/witch/which
[04:15] <JohnFlux> yonil: lsof doesn't take any parameter
[04:15] <JohnFlux> s
[04:15] <gyaresu> h08817, you probably wouldn't have the same probs with an install (only others)
[04:15] <gyaresu> h08817, then my solution is to reboot :)
[04:15] <stenass> ubuntu is shiping for free?
[04:15] <h08817> gyaresu: but how can i change that problem?
[04:15] <stenass> ubuntu is shiping for free?
[04:15] <stenass> ubuntu is shiping for free?
[04:15] <KR-data> Amaranth: hehe that is never to be changed. Windows is only good for games and that is because game developers doesn't seem to like Linux
[04:15] <tritium> ed1t, how can you say you have a working menu.lst if you can't boot into ubuntu?
[04:16] <yonil> JohnFlux, just running "lsof" with no switchs doesnt show anything
[04:16] <unforcer> Am I missing something my laptop sound is breaking like grazy?   :P
[04:19] <JohnFlux> sproingie: can you open it from the task manager?
[04:19] <anacron> is it easy to make your own themes for gnome?
[04:19] <tritium> ed1t, that sounds like a suse thing.  that feature is not in ubuntu at present
[04:19] <JohnFlux> sproingie: ah, no wonder I never found it before
[04:19] <sproingie> JohnFlux: you can replace the task manager with it.  it's like task manager on steroids anyway
[04:19] <apokryphos> anacron: easier to download ones from the net
[04:20] <JohnFlux> sproingie: sounds very neat.
[04:20] <tritium> uRolph, you're still having trouble?
[04:20] <uRolph> yeah
[04:20] <tritium> ed1t, I suggest you comment out that line.  and do a "sudo update-grub"
[04:20] <tritium> uRolph, please elaborate.
[04:20] <anacron> apokryphos: it doesn't feel so good
[04:21] <JohnFlux> sproingie: it wouldn't be hard to get the processmanager in kde to do something similiar
[04:21] <apokryphos> anacron: what, downloading themes?
[04:21] <uRolph> well I did ./configure in the source code for vnc2swf
[04:21] <jesper> join #breezy
[04:21] <JohnFlux> sproingie: I'll add it to my todo list for academy
[04:21] <uRolph> but it doesn't work :(
[04:21] <anacron> apokryphos: yeah, i wan't to make my own, if it's possible
[04:21] <uRolph> I have installed the file you mentioned...
[04:21] <jesper> sry
[04:21] <ed1t> tritium did that
[04:21] <gyaresu> h08817, google has some stuff to say. have you looked into it?
[04:21] <h08817> yes i have
[04:21] <tritium> uRolph, what happens?
[04:21] <sproingie> JohnFlux: it'd be nice.  linux typically has a little less need of it, tho it would still have its uses
[04:22] <sproingie> JohnFlux: windows tends to need it more because of its damn mandatory locking
[04:22] <h08817> gyaresu: it is just a thing about  someone else talking about it
[04:22] <apokryphos> anacron: wouldn't know where to direct you, sorry. I do KDE. :)
[04:22] <toasta> wheres the theme folder for gnome?
[04:22] <tritium> uRolph, ./configure fails?  "make" fails?  what happens?
[04:22] <h08817> gyaresu: yes i have looked into it why did u find anything important?
[04:22] <JohnFlux> sproingie: i realllly hate that locking crap in windows
[04:22] <gyaresu> h08817, it's a cd not running at all thing... before the 'boot:' option.
[04:22] <JohnFlux> sproingie: its bitten me too many times
[04:22] <anacron> apokryphos: no problem, i think google will help me with this one
[04:22] <toasta> i think i just have to copy these themes upacked to the theme folder
[04:22] <gyaresu> h08817, nah. it's just weird.
[04:23] <sproingie> JohnFlux: i've found it useful once or twice.  and annoying about 1000 times as often
[04:23] <h08817> gyaresu: so its impossible to fix
[04:23] <h08817> gyaresu: my computer is a dinosaur
[04:23] <JohnFlux> sproingie: i'll have a go at doing something like that sysinternals
[04:23] <uRolph> http://pastebin.com/313252
[04:23] <JohnFlux> sproingie: It looks trivial to do
[04:23] <gyaresu> h08817, not one of those 'no good for win98 boxes' is is?
[04:23] <sproingie> JohnFlux: cool :)
[04:23] <Synergy> i cant play mp3 or mpgs /avi wich codec is good
[04:24] <Synergy> ?
[04:24] <h08817> gyaresu: good guess
[04:24] <gyaresu> h08817, ubuntu is still needing 128MB RAM IMO
[04:24] <h08817> gyaresu: why?
[04:24] <sproingie> damn, the channel's hopping this morning
[04:24] <gyaresu> h08817, POS
[04:24] <sproingie> guess it's only morning for us folks out west :)
[04:24] <apokryphos> Synergy: check the restricted formats article
[04:24] <ed1t> tritium u think it will show me the grub loader when i reboot? coz last time i had to manually do it...i typed in configfile (hd0,7)/boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:24] <apokryphos> !restricted
[04:24] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[04:24] <Synergy> oke
[04:24] <h08817> gyaresu: well that comp is so old it doesn't have that much
[04:24] <tritium> ed1t, hopefully so
[04:25] <h08817> gyaresu: it is crammed with stuff now like bulging with files and programs and only has 64mb of ram and works fine
[04:25] <tritium> uRolph, does a "make" fail?
[04:26] <h08817> gyaresu: so i guess that is all i need a new computer
[04:26] <h08817> just for freakin linux
[04:26] <ed1t> tritium now can i add a splash image?
[04:27] <ivangates> anyone can give me a info how to install a program in linux(ubuntu)? coz iwanna install the mysql 4.0 but  im new in linux >_>
[04:27] <h08817> www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:27] <tritium> ed1t, yes, grub in ubuntu supports splash images
[04:27] <gyaresu> h08817, nah. just me saying that i don't know why it won't boot the cd and that if it did it would still be a dinosaur....
[04:27] <h08817> gyaresu: well thanks anyway
[04:27] <tritium> ed1t, such as: splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
[04:28] <gyaresu> h08817, 300MHz with 64MB RAM is a home server....
[04:28] <ed1t> k
[04:28] <ed1t> thx
[04:28] <gyaresu> h08817, no probs..
[04:28] <sproingie> ivangates: synaptic
[04:28] <uRolph> tritium, No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[04:29] <h08817> gyaresu: i have 120mhz with 64mb or ram
[04:29] <gyaresu> h08817, icky!@#$
[04:29] <ivangates> ubuntuguide.org dont work...  amhh.. in synaptic, its  say it need to download 10-13mb, den i gave it a go, but it finished its installation and download less than 3 minutes.. then nothing appear...
[04:29] <gyaresu> h08817, CLI only.
[04:29] <h08817> gyaresu: guess ubuntu couldn't use that?
[04:29] <gyaresu> h08817, not really no.
[04:29] <ivangates> but its says there that mysql is install >_< green square box rgiht
[04:29] <sproingie> h08817: hate to say it, but ubuntu is probably not for you then
[04:30] <sproingie> ivangates: yep, that means it's installed
[04:30] <gyaresu> h08817, damnsmalllinux.org probably would have problems.
[04:30] <ed1t> tritium i rebooted but i still got the promt grub> i had to manually type in configfile (hd0,7)/boot/grub/menu.lst and it gave me the grub loader but without splash screen
[04:30] <tritium> uRolph, please be certain you have all the build-dependencies that you need
[04:30] <uRolph> tritium, well I would like to know lol it's not written anywhere
[04:30] <moebius_> is there anything up with the main archive?  I've gotten 3 md5sum mismatches from us.archive.ubuntu.com this morning
[04:31] <sproingie> h08817: you planning on running many graphical apps on that machine?  memory-wise, linux is probably more of a hog than windows when it comes to GUI stuff
[04:31] <h08817> www.ubuntuguide.org works
[04:31] <gyaresu> !ubuntuguide
[04:31] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 3 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[04:31] <othernoob> moebius_: don't use the us archives..use ca, uk, fi, de, or something else instead
[04:31] <toasta> anyone know where the gnome theme stuff is located
[04:31] <h08817> it helps with everything with installing programs and things like that
[04:31] <ed1t> tritium maybe the grub loader on mbr is not set to ubuntu or something?
[04:31] <ivangates> oh... maybe it just dont work here >_<
[04:31] <cavediver> Anyone have the encoding part of K3B up and running ?
[04:31] <h08817> b/c its not strictly related to ubuntu
[04:32] <ivangates> i tried accessing it 10hrs ago but no luck
[04:32] <ivangates> anay alternative available?
[04:32] <gyaresu> h08817, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WordIndex is the way i find stuff on wiki.ubuntu.org
[04:32] <moebius_> othernoob - is that your recommended workaround or should I not be using us in general?
[04:32] <moebius_> I'm just using what was installed by default
[04:32] <tritium> ed1t, one moment
[04:32] <sproingie> ivangates: maybe it's installed but not started.  check your mysql documentation to see how to start it
[04:32] <h08817> gyaresu: its irrelevant if i am installing those kind of things i just want it to boot
[04:33] <othernoob> moebius_: the us.archives are fucked at the moment. so yes. it's a workaround
[04:33] <ivangates> kk
[04:33] <sproingie> the us archives are still hosed?  jeez
[04:33] <ed1t> tritium k...i think i fixed the splash image problem i forgot to change the X, Y heh
[04:33] <moebius_> othernoob - ah, thanks
[04:33] <othernoob> sproingie: if he still gets md5sum probs, i'd suppose so ;)
[04:33] <othernoob> moebius_: you're welcome
[04:33] <gyaresu> h08817, sorry dude. that ubuntuguide thing was just in reference to that referal, not to that problem.
[04:33] <uRolph> not it's that zlib missing thing which is not working.
[04:34] <tritium> uRolph, but you told me you installled zlib1g-dev
[04:34] <uRolph> I did
[04:34] <uRolph> lol
[04:34] <Efwis> I dont' get this, in the last week I have had a bunch of my programs stop working with Ubuntu, that were working fine before
[04:34] <h08817> gyaresu: so wiki.ubunu.com works good for u?
[04:35] <surak> Can someone help me with X in breezy?
[04:35] <tritium> uRolph, please verify.  "apt-cache policy zlib1g-dev" tells you that it's installed?
[04:35] <GNULinuxer> surak: oops
[04:35] <tritium> surak, see the topic
[04:35] <apokryphos> surak: you shouldn't be using it..
[04:35] <uRolph> 'zlib1g-dev is already the newest version.'
[04:35] <GNULinuxer> surak: Breezy is broken
[04:35] <h08817> well i'll be back to this irc when i finally can get linux to install on the computer
[04:36] <surak> I'm using it for filling bugs.
[04:36] <apokryphos> surak: for filling out bugs? You shouldn't be...
[04:36] <uRolph> zlib1g-dev:
[04:36] <uRolph>   Installed: 1:1.2.2-4ubuntu1.1
[04:36] <cavediver> How do I install transcode in Hoary ?
[04:36] <gyaresu> h08817, s'aight. hard to find things compared to ubuntuguide... (ubuntuguide is good for initial install)s
[04:37] <cavediver> Or does someone have another easy to use program for ripping a dvd to xvid or something similar
[04:37] <Raskall-gprs> My father installed ubuntu yesterday. and he loves it.
[04:37] <tritium> cavediver, "apt-cache search dvd | grep rip"
[04:37] <Cellobiose> hello
[04:37] <apokryphos> gyaresu: though bad, really, since it doesn't teach you anything
[04:37] <uRolph> or can you suggest another screen capture solution?
[04:38] <mouse_> hey all.... does anyone noe how to print to a pdf file from a website?
[04:38] <Cellobiose> how do i switch my apt to multiverse from universe or enable multiverse or something
[04:38] <mouse_> windows there's this pdf printer
[04:38] <ashok> hi, i have a compaq notebook. when i boot in linux, the wifi button on the laptop keeps glowing. pls tell why
[04:38] <gyaresu> apokryphos, then why is there no equivalent on the wiki...?
[04:38] <gyaresu> apokryphos, hmmm?
[04:38] <tritium> Cellobiose, add multiverse to the same line where universe is listed
[04:39] <apokryphos> gyaresu: equivalent bad guide? Because.. er.. it would be bad? :)
[04:39] <gyaresu> apokryphos, i'm going to spend a day hacking up that damn wiki...
[04:39] <Efwis> Is there a way I can go back to the original Kernel that I got when I installed Ubuntu, it seems since I got the last one that was updated things aren't working right
[04:39] <Cellobiose> you have the link for that tritium?
[04:39] <apokryphos> gyaresu: good going :)
[04:39] <Phinite> tritium: add multiverse after universe, or replace it?
[04:39] <Cellobiose> k
[04:39] <tritium> Phinite, I'd have both
[04:39] <Cellobiose> i think its replace
[04:39] <tritium> Cellobiose, having both is prefereable.
[04:39] <gyaresu> apokryphos, any bit of ubuntuguide not work for you , all i missed was installing portmap and smbfs
[04:39] <tritium> !repositories
[04:39] <apokryphos> gyaresu: I admit that the wiki doesn't have all that the ubuguide has -- despite the comment on the wiki. I'll let you know I've deleted that falsity twice, only to have some blind person editing it back in...
[04:39] <ubotu> hmm... repositories is at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:39] <Cellobiose> ok
[04:40] <Phinite> cool thanks tritium
[04:40] <tritium> Cellobiose, Phinite see above URL for adding repos
[04:40] <mouse_> erm, does anyone noe any programs to print to pdf?
[04:40] <apokryphos> gyaresu: nope, all worked for me when I used it, but it didn't really explain why it did. The kudos guide plans on addressing those problems in due course, wheras the ubuguide author is uncompromising
[04:40] <Phinite> tritium: reading it now, thanks.
[04:40] <gyaresu> apokryphos, it's the simplicity that someone like me(us) wants. JUST TELL ME WHERE THE BROKEN BITS ARE... etc.
[04:40] <ashok> someone help me please
[04:40] <Cellobiose> i know how to add it i just dont know the link, is it just multiverse at the end instead of universe
[04:40] <tritium> no problem
[04:41] <ashok> hi, i have a compaq notebook. when i boot in linux, the wifi button on the laptop keeps glowing. pls tell why
[04:41] <uRolph> this is annoying me.
[04:41] <tritium> Cellobiose, not instead of.  Add it to the end of the line
[04:41] <gyaresu> apokryphos, you're winning my argument for me :)
[04:41] <tritium> I think you'll be happier with both universe and multiverse
[04:41] <apokryphos> gyaresu: sure, but getting someone to blindly follow commands won't really help them -- we had a case in here the other day, a guy came in and asked the same question three times
[04:41] <tritium> Cellobiose, see that URL.  It has a nice guide.
[04:41] <Cellobiose> ok
[04:41] <Cellobiose> thanks
[04:42] <tritium> uRolph, so I haven't seen any replies from you...what's the story?
[04:42] <pc06> #tante girang
[04:42] <Phinite> never used the gui before for editing the sources, I think I'm just going to do it manually
[04:42] <dj28> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/w/w3c-dtd-xhtml/w3c-dtd-xhtml_1.1-5_all.deb
[04:42] <dj28>   MD5Sum mismatch
[04:42] <dj28> is that something i should worry about
[04:42] <torti-> hi guys, how do I mount an external firewire harddisk in ubuntu? when i plug in the harddisk or switch on power nothing sows up in dmesg/messages 1394 modules are loaded and hald is running... help, please! :(
[04:42] <apokryphos> dj28: see topic
[04:42] <tritium> Phinite, I always edit it manually too
[04:42] <tritium> I don't use synaptic at all, actually
[04:43] <gyaresu> apokryphos, i'm the first to !ubuntuguide now but only if i'm prepared to follow up on the help. until i know that the damn wiki is user friendly.
[04:43] <gyaresu> apokryphos, first look at it doesn't evern have a "DO THIS CAUSE IT WON'T WORK OTHERWISE" section.
[04:43] <apokryphos> gyaresu: Yup, I know what you mean. For example, the wiki has nothing about dmix and other things... it's a plain lie that "everything on ug is in better/more-explained on the wiki"
[04:43] <gyaresu> apokryphos, which it needs.
[04:43] <ed1t> tritium is there any way i can i like configure grub to point to the file in ubuntu ?
[04:44] <gyaresu> apokryphos, zackly
[04:44] <frank> yeah ubuntuguide is pretty good if you know what you're doing
[04:44] <apokryphos> gyaresu: now if I can just track down the wacko who keeps putting that in the wiki guide ;-)
[04:44] <tritium> ed1t, not sure I fully understand your question.  You're best off not using grub from a suse install, and installing grub from ubuntu.
[04:44] <cavediver> I seem to have sources problems. I can't install mplayer or transcoder.. I think I have universe, multivers and marrillat repos, but I keep on getting depending problems
[04:45] <tritium> apokryphos, well, there's a lot of crack on ubuntuguide to watch out for
[04:45] <cavediver> Help! :=)
[04:45] <apokryphos> tritium: agreed, again. Still doesn't give us the right :P
[04:45] <tritium> right to do what?
[04:45] <apokryphos> gyaresu: it's you!
[04:45] <apokryphos> tritium: to lie about what it does have
[04:45] <gyaresu> apokryphos, en guarde
[04:45] <tritium> apokryphos, I'm not
[04:45] <frank> cavediver: you need hoary-backports for libgcc1  that you need for transcode
[04:46] <apokryphos> tritium: I know; a wacko on the wiki is
[04:46] <apokryphos> :P
[04:46] <Synergy> how do i install my adio driver to listen to mp3 but ths strange part is when i start my computer the sounds works
[04:46] <tritium> apokryphos, okay, don't get so worked up about it ;)
[04:46] <bob2> please tell me they didn't backport libgcc1
[04:46] <bob2> please please please
[04:46] <apokryphos> tritium: not worked up at all -- sorry if it appears that way :P. Damn thsoe smilies!
[04:46] <surak> Seems I'm having trouble with irc...
[04:46] <ed1t> tritium first i was running ubuntu and xp, and the grub was working fine, then i installed suse..and some how it overwrite the grub and i got the suse splash image..now i delete suse, i think that grub loader is still trying to find the menu.lst from suse, so i wanna change it to ubuntu's menu.lst
[04:47] <frank> bob2: yeah they did
[04:47] <bob2> wtf
[04:47] <uRolph> tritium, what's the story? it still doesn't work :(
[04:47] <surak> apokryphos : I use it because the company I work for is intended to help with ubuntu development and testing.
[04:47] <tritium> ed1t, it may be looking on the wrong partition.  Was your suse partioning scheme different from your ubuntu partitioning scheme?
[04:47] <surak> breezy, I mean
[04:48] <tritium> uRolph, sounds like the configure script is broken for vnc2swf if it can't find libz.so in /usr/lib
[04:48] <frank> ed1t: grub-install from ubuntu will change it to ubuntu menu list
[04:48] <apokryphos> surak: if you're a developer, then fine, sure.
[04:48] <mumbles> herm
[04:48] <ed1t> tritium no...they both are ext3
[04:48] <zAo^> lo all
[04:48] <zAo^> can I remove "capplets"
[04:48] <zAo^> ?
[04:48] <mumbles> just noticed
[04:48] <tritium> ed1t, that's the filesystem type.  I'm referring to the partitioning
[04:48] <mumbles> im getting ghost type effects on this moniter
[04:48] <tritium> ed1t, e.g., did suse have a separate /boot partition?  Does your ubuntu install?
[04:49] <ed1t> tritium yes
[04:49] <torti-> does really _noone_ use firewire to connect an external hdd?
[04:49] <surak> apokryphos: I know breezy is broken - I download it every night. I was just asking if someone knows about today's X brokeup
[04:49] <frank> torti-: I used to do that on my laptop
[04:49] <apokryphos> surak: not the best place to ask :). Dev channel likely better
[04:49] <surak> Yeah
[04:49] <uRolph> tritium, it's not in there actually
[04:50] <tritium> ed1t, sorry, I don't know what more to tell you.  I think you're best off chrooting into your ubuntu install /, and reinstalling grub
[04:50] <apokryphos> What ever happened to mdz by the way?
[04:50] <apokryphos> haven't seen him around for some time
[04:50] <ed1t> tritium alright
[04:50] <tritium> uRolph, "dpkg -L zlib1g-dev" please.  It should be there
[04:50] <torti-> frank: how did you do that? when i plugin the disk nothing happens
[04:50] <ed1t> tritium tx
[04:50] <ed1t> thx
[04:50] <tritium> ed1t, sure.  Good luck.
[04:50] <torti-> frank: modules are loaded and there is no sd* device
[04:50] <surak> Ain't he in travel?
[04:51] <tritium> surak, you really shouldn't bug the devs about breezy
[04:51] <frank> torti-: It's been a while and I wasn't using ubuntu at that time so I don't really now
[04:51] <fanartprof> hey, i'm new tolynux.. and i'm a bit lost. once i've downloaded a package from the package manager, how do i find it, and apply it?
[04:51] <tritium> they know X was broken yesterday.  A fix was uploaded
[04:51] <apokryphos> tritium: apparently a dev himself
[04:51] <spike> hi
[04:51] <apokryphos> hi :)
[04:52] <fanartprof> hi
[04:52] <tritium> apokryphos, no, only for universe
[04:52] <spike> is anybody here running a 2.6.x kernel patched with swsusp2?
[04:52] <spike> and maybe installed latest ipw2100 driver
[04:52] <tritium> surak obviously didn't heed my advice
[04:52] <bob2> spike: what's the advantage of swsusp2 over the one built in to ubuntu kernels?
[04:52] <sky_monkey007> g'morning everyone :)
[04:52] <Darryl> Does anyone know if the Ruby version is going to get fixed in Hoary?
[04:52] <surak> tritium: I won't bugzilla it.
[04:53] <fanartprof> g'morning. love the name, sky monkey
[04:53] <apokryphos> tritium: still a dev, but motu is his home then, isn't it? ;-)
[04:53] <cmatheson> Darryl: aren't you running hoary?
[04:53] <spike> bob2: http://suspend2.epfl.ch/features.html
[04:53] <sky_monkey007> ha.  thanks ;)
[04:53] <cmatheson> Darryl: ruby works fine for me
[04:53] <bob2> Darryl: "fixed"? you mean updated? no, the version in hoary is exceedingly unlikely to change.
[04:53] <tritium> apokryphos, yes, but I'm on sabbatical from that right now.
[04:53] <spike> bob2: the one build in is the default that comes with 2.6 kernels
[04:53] <fanartprof> ^^; but can any one help me with my little problem?
[04:53] <Darryl> The version is hoary is prerelease
[04:53] <bob2> spike: swsusp, I know...what do you want that it doesn't do?
[04:53] <sky_monkey007> I was wondering, has anyone ever mixed Debian release packages, like Sarge w/ Ubuntu using apt pinning?
[04:54] <stan-am> hello everyone
[04:54] <apokryphos> tritium: you do know I wasn't talking about you this time, btw, right 8)
[04:54] <spike> bob2: compression and suspend to file
[04:54] <sky_monkey007> hey stan
[04:54] <bob2> sky_monkey007: don't do it unless you know a lot about how apt works
[04:54] <stan-am> does anybody know how can i add a 1024x768 display option on my nvidia fx 5200 config?
[04:54] <tritium> apokryphos, who, surak ?
[04:54] <bob2> spike: ah
[04:54] <apokryphos> tritium: yeah
[04:55] <fanartprof> i'm new to Lynux/ubuntu, and i don't know how to find/open the packages i just installed.... >_>;
[04:55] <sky_monkey007> well with apt-pinning, it seems that as long as you make your preferences file correctly, that you'll only get the packages that do not conflict w/ eachother.
[04:55] <tritium> apokryphos, apparently not
[04:55] <spike> bob2: has ubuntu got something better than make-kpkg?
[04:55] <sky_monkey007> my question is what is the difference between the "breezy" release and the "hoary" release?
[04:55] <bob2> sky_monkey007: sure, but how careful are you planning to be?
[04:55] <fanartprof> ^^; i'm sorry
[04:55] <sky_monkey007> breezy is an earlier Ubuntu, is it not?
[04:56] <cmatheson> spike: better?
[04:56] <apokryphos> sky_monkey007: no
[04:56] <bob2> sky_monkey007: breezy isn't a release yet, it's the current development branch
[04:56] <bob2> spike: no
[04:56] <fanartprof> some one told me i spelled it wrong before when i spelled it linux
[04:56] <apokryphos> !breezy
[04:56] <sky_monkey007> ahh...that would make sense as to why they have more updated testing packages.
[04:56] <apokryphos> damn ubotu /msg me the message.. odd.
[04:56] <surak> sky_monkey007: It's the unstable version right now. It will be released somewhere in october.
[04:56] <stan-am> i need some help with this nvidia drivers
[04:56] <spike> cmatheson: ma bad, more complete. something that covers the whole process of installing a new kernel, including making oldconfig, copying stuff from /boot, etc
[04:56] <stan-am> anyone?
[04:56] <stan-am> plz?
[04:56] <sky_monkey007> gotcha...
[04:57] <apokryphos> stan-am: can't help without knowing the problem
[04:57] <cmatheson> spike: generally the only people that should use make-kpkg are those that want to configure their own kernel, so that would kind of defeat the purpose
[04:57] <cpayan> would anyone know if there's support for the nike-phillips mp3run player?
[04:57] <fanartprof> >.< and smacking me doesn't help MY problem either
[04:57] <stan-am> i have an nvidia fx 5200, i just installed it
[04:57] <bob2> cpayan: it's probably a usb-storage device, so yes
[04:57] <stan-am> but i cannot get a 1024x768 option
[04:57] <apokryphos> fanartprof: what's the problem?
[04:57] <stan-am> on screen resolution
[04:58] <apokryphos> !resolution
[04:58] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:58] <cpayan> bob2 i sure hope so... don't want to spend 70 bucks on something that's going to be dead in a room of linux computers
[04:58] <apokryphos> stan-am: short answer: you can probably do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:58] <apokryphos> stan-am: then restart X with Ctrl + Alt + Backspace
[04:58] <fanartprof> apokryphos: i don't know how to find/open/apply(whatever) the packages i just installed....
[04:58] <stan-am> thnx doods
[04:58] <bob2> cpayan: so keep the recepit and return it if it doesn't work.  iaudio and iriver devices work perfectly, if you want to be sure.
[04:58] <spike> cmatheson: yeah, but it's just that I'd like to avoid having to do the cp'ing, old,check the append-to-modules-number, blablabla. so I c ur point but don't completely agree. anyway, I'm going with it. tnx
[04:59] <cpayan> need a sport player
[04:59] <cpayan> true, i almost never keep receipts, bad habit
[04:59] <cpayan> i'll do it this time
[04:59] <apokryphos> fanartprof: you should be able to find them in the menus. Or, if you know their names, ALt + F2 -> {packagename}
[04:59] <othernoob> fanartprof: use locate or find in a terminal
[04:59] <cpayan> all right, thanks for the help bob2
[04:59] <tritium> cpayan, I have an iriver ifp810, and it's great
[04:59] <sky_monkey007> bob2, from what it reads on one site; Once youve done this (apt pinning w/ prioritization) apt will try to use packages from Ubuntu whenever possible, falling back to Debian only to fill in the gaps.
[04:59] <apokryphos> stan-am: if you have nvidia drivers you'll want to install those *first*
[04:59] <sky_monkey007> from http://moonbase.rydia.net/mental/blog/life/mixing-ubuntu-and-debian.html
[04:59] <spike> anybody running latest ipw2100 driver compiled from sources?
[04:59] <bob2> sky_monkey007: which won't stop it breaking
[05:00] <apokryphos> tritium: what's the usability on that like? In comparison to iPod?
[05:00] <apokryphos> tritium: been thinking of getting an iRIver PMP-100...
[05:00] <sky_monkey007> well sure, if your using it for base system packages, lol
[05:00] <bob2> sky_monkey007: I'd really just not do it
[05:00] <bob2> sky_monkey007: if it breaks, you're totally on your own; it won't be an ubuntu or debian problem, it will be a sky_monkey007-mix problem.
[05:01] <tritium> apokryphos, prettty easy to use.  Don't know in comparison to iPod, though.
[05:01] <sky_monkey007> hehe, thats alright.  It's just for my laptop, which is my testbed for Linux distro's for the most part anyways.
[05:01] <sky_monkey007> I run Gentoo on my desktop, which never gets messed with.
[05:01] <apokryphos> iRiver running on Linux system is a big plus
[05:01] <tritium> apokryphos, my only gripe with iRiver is that they stopped supporing ogg in their newer hard-drive players
[05:01] <bob2> iaudio!
[05:01] <apokryphos> tritium: yeah, read that on an amazon article
[05:02] <bob2> none of the silly colour lcds, either
[05:02] <sky_monkey007> apokryphos, indeed.  I hope it isn't as hard as getting the damn 1st Gen iPod to work, though.
[05:02] <fanartprof> yay! thanks alot!
[05:03] <sky_monkey007> bob2, I usually reformat my laptop monthly, but thank you for the words of caution.  Had I tried this on my critical system, I'd probably end up screwed like you said.
[05:03] <apokryphos> sky_monkey007: 4th gen generally meant to work very well now with amaroK and gtkpod I believe
[05:03] <sky_monkey007> of course, you don't have to mess w/ firewire :D
[05:03] <bob2> wow, I don't reformat until the disks start physically failing
[05:03] <sky_monkey007> finding a firewire card that worked was a pain.
[05:03] <apokryphos> sky_monkey007: why the reformat so darn often? :P
[05:03] <mumbles>  i managed to get my crateiv zen working
[05:03] <sky_monkey007> bob2, the only reason I do that is because I test and do reviews on new distro's.
[05:04] <apokryphos> ah
[05:04] <apokryphos> sky_monkey007: it's good to just keep a partition for that
[05:05] <sky_monkey007> The only way you can really give a decent review or have an opinion on a distro is to try it.  I'd do a second partition, but I never want a distro that I rely on being on a testbed computer.
[05:05] <mumbles> if i wanted to crate a backup image of my linx and xp partion is thare an easy way to do it?
[05:05] <sky_monkey007> If I did that, I'd start using my laptop for more unacedemic purposes.
[05:05] <cmatheson> mumbles: dd or tar
[05:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> i need learn about printing here in ubuntu...
[05:06] <thenuke> mumbles: that might depend on few things if it is easy or not
[05:06] <sky_monkey007> There was a handy backup script I saw floating around a while ago.
[05:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> there is a good guide for?
[05:06] <othernoob> Aragorn_Guardian: linuxprinting.org
[05:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> nice...thanks
[05:06] <thenuke> mumbles: where do you want to do the back upping?
[05:06] <othernoob> yw
[05:06] <cmatheson> mumbles: dd will give you an exact image and will be easier to restore w/, tar will just give you all the files and is harder to use, but is also not a bad approach
[05:06] <thenuke> sometimes tar might be better than dd?
[05:07] <mumbles> cmatheson,  or thenuke
[05:08] <stan-am> ill send you a xmas present cause of ure help guys
[05:08] <mumbles> i want to do the bakcuping of my linux install, and also of my xp partition
[05:08] <stan-am> thnx a lot
[05:08] <tritium> uRolph, I never saw a response from you...did you reply?
[05:08] <stan-am> !
[05:08] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, stan-am
[05:08] <TeLeKiNeSiS> I keep getting access denied when trying to create directories
[05:08] <stan-am> nevermind, im just happy cause i got my drivers configured
[05:09] <TeLeKiNeSiS> How the hell do you log in as root?
[05:09] <mumbles> so.. how do i get DD ?
[05:09] <Discipulus> mumbles, dd? It's already installed...
[05:09] <sJaM> TeLeKiNeSiS, sudo su -
[05:09] <mumbles> where ?
[05:09] <TeLeKiNeSiS> okay
[05:10] <TeLeKiNeSiS> sJam, in a terminal window?
[05:10] <sJaM> yes
[05:10] <tritium> TeLeKiNeSiS, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[05:10] <xfSx> I have en error configuring my speedtouch to dial-in:  System startup links for /etc/init.d/speedtouch already exist.
[05:10] <xfSx>  How do i delete the links? (i know to rm speedtouch)
[05:10] <tritium> please read that.
[05:10] <TeLeKiNeSiS> thanks
[05:11] <dylan_> should i be using firefox 1.0.5 on ubuntu yet?
[05:11] <tritium> dylan_, the firefox in ubuntu has all the 1.0.5 fixes backported into it
[05:11] <choopliz> hi...
[05:11] <dylan_> right, but aren't there any other additions other than security in the 1.0.5 release?
[05:11] <mumbles> Discipulus,  where do i fidnd dd ?
[05:12] <tritium> dylan_, I'm not sure.  But the download from getfirefox.com is not a .deb, so you'll end up with software not under package management if you install it.
[05:12] <dylan_> right and using alien -i isnt so bad
[05:13] <dylan_> anybody using windows and firefox 1.0.5 that likes it out there?
[05:13] <Discipulus> mumbles, slocate dd
[05:13] <mumbles> yeh i am
[05:13] <Discipulus> type 'slocate dd'
[05:13] <ed1t> tritium, i finally figured it out
[05:13] <Discipulus> actually
[05:13] <tritium> ed1t, good
[05:13] <tritium> which dd
[05:13] <tritium> uRolph, ping...
[05:13] <Discipulus> mumbles, type 'find / -name dd'
[05:14] <Discipulus> but do it as root
[05:14] <dylan_> another question:  why doesnt my gmail pop access work properly?  it shows all of my email in the inbox (even the ones ive sent)
[05:14] <mouse_> does any one know what printer driver i can use for my 'PDF Printer' detected when i add a new printer?
[05:14] <Discipulus> mumbles, it's /bin/dd btw
[05:15] <tritium> mumbles, you might also like the "which" command
[05:15] <mumbles> confused....
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> is it possible to share an Ubuntu printer using cups to a UNIX network?
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> *Linux
[05:15] <bob2> dylan_: if you're going to install firefox from somewhere other than ubuntu, I'd recommend using the .tar.gz and installing it to /usr/local/firefox/ or whatever
[05:15] <tritium> Kamping_Kaiser, absolutely
[05:15] <Discipulus> mumbles, the location of dd is '/bin/dd'
[05:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> tritium: i thought because of the cups locking it might have been removed?
[05:15] <Discipulus> disc@student:~$ find /bin -name dd
[05:15] <Discipulus> /bin/dd
[05:15] <Discipulus> disc@student:~$
[05:16] <mumbles> ah ..
[05:16] <tritium> Kamping_Kaiser, you do have to enable browsing
[05:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> tritium: ok. I'll have a look when I'm there next thanks
[05:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> is that all?
[05:17] <dylan_> ok bob2, is file-roller basically the same thing as tar like aptitude is to synaptic?
[05:17] <tritium> Kamping_Kaiser, I'm not sure, to be honest.  Perhaps search the wiki
[05:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> tritium: good idea thanks
[05:17] <tritium> Kamping_Kaiser, sorry I can't be more helpful
[05:17] <andares> Hi, how would I add a startup script with ubuntu?
[05:18] <tritium> andares, you should read the manpaeg for update-rc.d
[05:18] <tritium> manpage, that is
[05:18] <Kamping_Kaiser> tritium: no, that's cool thanks
[05:18] <mumbles> now how do i use it?
[05:18] <andares> tritium, k.
[05:18] <djp> is there a difinitive place where it describes how to use themes etc., to change to look and feel of ubuntu?
[05:19] <JohnFlux> djp: define "ubuntu"
[05:19] <BROKEN_LADDER> what's an easy way to test my broadband speed?
[05:19] <djp> JohnFlux: apologies! i mean gnome
[05:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> getting sbc dsl working is a pain.
[05:20] <andares> Why does "Music Player" not have a plugin to handle MP3s?!
[05:20] <djp> the sun has frazzled me today JohnFlux ;)
[05:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> because mp3's are proprietary
[05:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> mp3 is a proprietary standard.
[05:20] <andares> BROKEN_LADDER, oh?
[05:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> see restricted formats on the ubuntu page.
[05:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> you can get that to work.
[05:20] <djp> andares: you need the gstreamer-mad plugin
[05:20] <andares> I thought they were created by MPEG.
[05:20] <ed1t> tritium, i have 10 GB space on my laptop which i use for testing out other distros, so now i future if i install any other distro, shall i do any certain way so that it doesnt overwrite the current ubuntu grub like suse did?
[05:20] <BROKEN_LADDER> Fraunhofer
[05:20] <djp> JohnFlux: any pointers?
[05:20] <JohnFlux> djp: i think gnome has a control panel thingy or something.
[05:21] <andares> djp, okay. Is that part of the main apt list?
[05:21] <JohnFlux> djp: ask in #gnome
[05:21] <ashok> gerrath are u there ?
[05:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> andares you should check into vorbis
[05:21] <djp> JohnFlux: cheers
[05:21] <sJaM> ed1t, just save the mbr
[05:21] <tritium> ed1t, probably so
[05:21] <sJaM> hmm
[05:21] <JohnFlux> djp: if you want it to look much better, customise it by using kde ;)
[05:21] <anacron> hey someone help me with user rights, i updated my kernel to 686 and now if im trying to access any admin stuff the password won't work, but if i start them from terminal with sudo, they do start
[05:21] <BROKEN_LADDER> off to work in downtown sf..good luck andares
[05:21] <ed1t> sJaM, how would i do that?
[05:21] <andares> BROKEN_LADDER, It's not an option.
[05:22] <BROKEN_LADDER> andares why isn't it an option?!
[05:22] <mumbles> !sudo
[05:22] <ubotu> I heard sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[05:22] <andares> I have MP3s I want to play. >.< Why should I convert them all to vorbis when I can install a plugin?
[05:22] <tritium> !restricted
[05:22] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[05:22] <djp> very good JohnFlux, very good... ;)
[05:22] <tritium> andares, ^^^
[05:22] <mumbles> anacron,  read the ubotu link
[05:22] <andares> Reading!
[05:22] <sJaM> ed1t: sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=mbr.save bs=512 count=1
[05:22] <JohnFlux> andares: because mp3's suck.
[05:22] <andares> JohnFlux, why?
[05:22] <sJaM> put it on a floppy
[05:22] <djp> andares: use ogg vorbis instead
[05:23] <sJaM> and when you are in your other distro
[05:23] <JohnFlux> andares: because they are patented
[05:23] <sJaM> you can put it back
[05:23] <Will_> No apostrophe! Damnit.
[05:23] <andares> JohnFlux, it is not a widely used.
[05:23] <sJaM> just do this command as root
[05:23] <bob2> converting mp3s to vorbis is silly
[05:23] <JohnFlux> andares: what isn't widely used?
[05:23] <bob2> just make sure all the new stuff you rip is vorbis (or flac)
[05:23] <sJaM> sudo dd if=mbr.save of=/dev/hda bs=512 count=1
[05:23] <JohnFlux> bob2: its better to use vorbis in the first place
[05:23] <bob2> or both, if you're annoying like me
[05:23] <sJaM> if you are root forget the sudo
[05:23] <sJaM> but I don't get it
[05:23] <Will_> bob2: You do both?
[05:23] <BROKEN_LADDER> andares i'm just saying, for future encoding consider vorbis and/or flac
[05:23] <TeLeKiNeSiS> I just downloaded Mplayer but can't install it because I can't create the directory it suggest, not good with terminal commands either. HELP!
[05:23] <JohnFlux> andares: ogg isn't widely used you mean?
[05:23] <sJaM> I thought SuSE also uses grub
[05:24] <sJaM> so you can still boot it via the command line
[05:24] <bob2> Will_: vorbis for my little iaudio player, flac for playing through my stereo
[05:24] <djp> andares: oops, didn't see your earlier comment. don't convert your mp3's they will lose quality as both ogg vorbis and mp3 are compressed formats. just use the gstreamer-mad plugin to playback your mp3's if you really need to
[05:24] <sJaM> or add the rules in your Ubuntu's grub.conf to the SuSE's grub.conf
[05:24] <Will_> bob2: Valid
[05:24] <sJaM> you have to do it anyway since you probably want to boot both
[05:24] <JohnFlux> TeLeKiNeSiS: maybe just install vlc instead - that's in ubuntu
[05:24] <bob2> TeLeKiNeSiS: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats, it shows you how to install it without having to make any directories!
[05:24] <andares> djp, I intend to.
[05:24] <andares> JohnFlux, That's what I mean.
[05:25] <JohnFlux> bob2: flac for playing through your stereo... what?
[05:25] <tritium> djp, compressed formats can be lossless.  The problem going from mp3 to ogg is that they're both lossy
[05:25] <JohnFlux> bob2: flac is meant for audio tapes for example
[05:25] <TeLeKiNeSiS> bob2, I opened up the repositories already
[05:25] <djp> tritium: got you
[05:25] <Gerrath_>  /msg nickserv link Gerrath zork99
[05:25] <TeLeKiNeSiS> Johnflux, vlc should be in there?
[05:26] <bob2> JohnFlux: now you've lost me.  flac is just a general lossless audio format; I rip my cds to that so I never have to do it again.
[05:26] <JohnFlux> bob2: yeah true, but just in general a high bitrate mp3/ogg is good enough
[05:26] <TeLeKiNeSiS> How do you address a certain person
[05:27] <bob2> JohnFlux: yeah, I'm just fastidious and don't want to have to go through ripping them all again :)
[05:27] <TeLeKiNeSiS> w/out typing their name?
[05:27] <JohnFlux> bob2: so generally you use flac for stuff like someone talking, which doesn't compress to mp3/ogg that well
[05:27] <tritium> JohnFlux, some audiophiles prefer lossless formats, though
[05:27] <tanki> i think oggs are dead
[05:27] <cmatheson> bob2: how good is the compression on flac? how much space does the average cd take up?
[05:27] <KR-data> ok, I've managed to get my sisters computer to work in 10baseT on eth0 in stead of 100baseT, but can't I somehow make it save that setting in stead of typing the commands everytime the computer boots?
[05:27] <tanki> i just dont see oggs taking over like mp3s did
[05:27] <bob2> JohnFlux: er, vorbis and mp3 do excellent jobs on speech
[05:27] <andares> Another question I have: Why is Wine not included in the Ubuntu APT repository?
[05:27] <bob2> JohnFlux: speex does an even better one
[05:27] <bob2> andares: it is, in the universe repository
[05:28] <andares> bob2, But that is not enabled by default.
[05:28] <bob2> andares: indeed, wine is not officially supported
[05:28] <tritium> KR-data, those are module parameters you're setting?  Add them to /etc/modules, on the line where the module is loaded.
[05:28] <khermans> Anyone know how to specify my global http_proxy environment variable to stay between reboots?
[05:28] <tritium> khermans, ~/.bashrc
[05:28] <bob2> cmatheson: it saves about 40% over .wav, depending on the type of music
[05:28] <cmatheson> bob2: oh ok, thx
[05:29] <khermans> tritium, just place it at the end?
[05:29] <JohnFlux> bob2: I think I'm a bit confused I admit :)
[05:29] <tritium> khermans, pretty much anywhere you want to.  Be sure to export it.
[05:29] <JohnFlux> bob2: I think speex is what i was thinking of and got mixed up.
[05:29] <Will_> KR-data: Why would you want it to run 10?
[05:29] <khermans> tritium, yeah thanks man -- i always forget
[05:29] <bob2> JohnFlux: ah, right
[05:30] <tritium> khermans, :)
[05:30] <KR-data> Will_: because of an error in the cable
[05:30] <ubuntu> how can i change my resolution in ubuntu? if i system->prefs-> screen res it only will let me pick 640x480
[05:30] <khermans> tritium, do i need a semi-colon at the end of line or no?
[05:30] <KR-data> tritium: ehm :S how do I do that? I'm not that much into the part with modules yet
[05:30] <djp> tanki: surely the point of using ogg vorbis over mp3 is that mp3 files are patent impeded and ogg vorbis are totally free (plus of a higher quality). see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/audio/audio.html#Guide
[05:30] <goldfish> ubuntu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:30] <tritium> khermans, no
[05:31] <tritium> KR-data, well, how are you configuring it on the command line?
[05:31] <TORPE> hello: i am a newbie and i need help with lazarus in ubuntu, can anyone help me?
[05:31] <evilfix`> ok
[05:31] <KR-data> tritium: yep :)
[05:31] <andares> Ahhh....
[05:31] <andares> It's not working for me!!!
[05:31] <tritium> KR-data, does that involved modprobing a module with specific parameters?
[05:31] <tanki> djp, your average user doesn't care about philosophy and stuff
[05:31] <djp> andares: what isn't?
[05:32] <mumbles> right
[05:32] <mumbles> going out to get cash for tonight
[05:32] <KR-data> tritium: no
[05:32] <tritium> KR-data, what are you doing, then?
[05:32] <djp> tanki: well that is aa shame and their loss unfortunately...
[05:32] <andares> djp, installing the universe and multiverse package repository.
[05:32] <JohnFlux> djp: agreed
[05:32] <JohnFlux> tanki: if the general user doesn't care, then we have to care double for them
[05:32] <tanki> djp, sadly it'll hurt the supports of ogg more
[05:32] <tritium> andares, did you apt-get update after adding them?
[05:33] <KR-data> tritium: typing "mii-tool -A 10baseT" followed by "dhclient eth0"
[05:33] <JohnFlux> tanki: what will?  the philisophical side that mp3's are patent encumbered?
[05:33] <tritium> KR-data, oh, I see.
[05:33] <andares> tritium, I'm using Synaptic
[05:33] <tanki> john, no, the adoption of ogg over mp3
[05:33] <evilfix`> ok i did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg now what? reboot?
[05:33] <tritium> andares, did you click the button that updates then?
[05:34] <djp> tanki: i think vorbis are coming on leaps and bounds to be fair. i am now using theora for my videos and the quality of playback is wonderful using totem-gstreamer although syncing is an issue. however i think this has been rectified in the latest release of gstreamer which is not included in hoary.
[05:34] <RaD|Tz> Does anyone has installed Oracle Database on Ubuntu?
[05:34] <andares> tritium, yes.
[05:34] <JohnFlux> tanki: why will adoption of ogg over mp3 hurt the supporters of ogg?
[05:34] <tritium> andares, what is the problem, then
[05:35] <andares> tritium, it doesn't show up!
[05:35] <tanki> john, yeah you're not listening
[05:35] <KR-data> tritium: any ideas to make it save the settings?
[05:35] <andares> I can't find gstreamer0.8-mad.
[05:35] <serengeti> hello :) is there a way to set the text console at 1024x768 with refresh rate better than the standard lousy 60Hz? I've heard about radeonfb (my gfx card is Radeon 9100) but don't really know what to do first
[05:35] <tritium> the patent on mp3 is 10 years old.  Shouldn't it only last another 4 years?
[05:35] <andares> It's like it's not using the list.
[05:35] <firestorm> Hi there. I'm new to Ubuntu and have just finished an install. I assume to install packages I should type 'apt-get install <packagename>' ?  Gaim couldn't handle that
[05:41] <Laney> (14/07 16:38:12)  warning: you are being CTCP flooded... enabling emergency CTCP ignore for (5) minutes!
[05:41] <tanki> licensing superiority discussions aren't going to be enough to get someone to switch
[05:41] <Amaranth> grr
[05:41] <Will_> irssi just took the abuse. Major screen floodage
[05:41] <redtech> Laney: heh same here
[05:41] <Amaranth> how the hell did they get me?
[05:42] <Amaranth> 5mbit cable with CTCPs blocked
[05:42] <thenuke> tanki: :) dont really know difference between vhs and beta
[05:42] <thenuke> tanki: do you think that vhs is mp3 or ogg?
[05:42] <Phinite> gaim handled it on my side but now I have all these bloody open windows to drop
[05:42] <Phinite> arg
[05:42] <tanki> mp3
[05:42] <KR-data> Phinite: well I didn't want to wait for that
[05:42] <sproingie> is globally ignoring CTCP going to break much?
[05:42] <anacron> that sudo information didn't help me at all, how do i reconfigure my sudo right's, i can do them with terminal, but in gnome's filemenu they don't work at all
[05:42] <sproingie> goddam script kiddies
[05:42] <KR-data> what happened exactly?
[05:42] <UdontKnow> you guys can use usermode +C to ignore all CTCP and DCC requests
[05:43] <Kyynara> would someone know why I can't run quake2 with sound if I have xmms or amarok on?
[05:43] <UdontKnow> ignoring server-side is safer
[05:43] <Amaranth> we lost ubotu
[05:43] <Amaranth> cafuego: The bot died.
[05:43] <sproingie> how do i usermode +C?  /mode sproingie +C ?
[05:43] <Amaranth> yes
[05:44] <ConfusedNewbie> Could someone please tell me what a Kernel Panic is?
[05:44] <cmatheson> Kyynara: esound is tying up the sound device
[05:44] <Amaranth> ConfusedNewbie: Something bad.
[05:44] <anacron> Kyynara: it can't play both sound's with your current selection (alsa, esd or whatever it is) but i don't know if it's even possible to do that
[05:44] <Amaranth> ConfusedNewbie: Something in the kernel broke and your machine crashed.
[05:44] <ConfusedNewbie> Amaranth: Okay... So... How do I fix it?
[05:44] <Kyynara> ok
[05:44] <tanki> i think oggs have to offer something significantly better than what mp3s provide, at the user level, for it to convert the masses
[05:44] <anacron> ConfusedNewbie: it did mean reinstalling to me
[05:44] <Amaranth> ConfusedNewbie: You usually don't.
[05:44] <Amaranth> ConfusedNewbie: Unless you did something that you can undo.
[05:45] <alindeman> Amaranth: Can you reset the +J ?  I think it may have desynced somewhere
[05:45] <JohnFlux> what's was that?
[05:45] <alindeman> /quote mode #ubuntu +J 10,5
[05:45] <UdontKnow> JohnFlux: join-throttling
[05:45] <tanki> i dont know but it really screwed up my ogg vorbis discussion
[05:45] <UdontKnow> alindeman: need to -J
[05:45] <xsdg> tanki: heh
[05:45] <ConfusedNewbie> amaranth: I get the error when I try to install Ububtu 64
[05:45] <tanki> now i dont even remember who i was replying to
[05:45] <alindeman> UdontKnow: Oh?
[05:45] <UdontKnow> Amaranth: /quote mode #ubuntu -J+J 10,5
[05:45] <JohnFlux> UdontKnow: i think someone attacked the channel
[05:45] <UdontKnow> alindeman: need to -J then +J again
[05:45] <h08817> where is the installation & FAQ stuff on the site?
[05:45] <alindeman> UdontKnow: Ah
[05:45] <UdontKnow> JohnFlux: yeah, we took care of it already
[05:46] <alindeman> Kool
[05:46] <UdontKnow> Amaranth: thanks
[05:46] <walaber> anyone know how to switch the system language in ubuntu?  I want to change the base language to Japanese from English
[05:46] <Amaranth> Well, I guess this means we're big stuff now.
[05:46] <JohnFlux> walaber: why?  you have something against japanese?
[05:46] <Amaranth> We get bot floods!
[05:46] <alindeman> Heh
[05:46] <JohnFlux> ;0
[05:47] <walaber> JohnFlux: ?
[05:47] <JohnFlux> walaber: i don't know sorry ;)
[05:47] <chibifs> So that was freenode that just filled gaim up with<PHONE_NUMBER>0 new messages?
[05:47] <chibifs> o.o
[05:47] <walaber> JohnFlux: ah.
[05:48] <JohnFlux> chibifs: it keeps life interesting
[05:48] <h08817> how do u guys add those faces?
[05:48] <h08817> :)
[05:48] <h08817> :-
[05:48] <h08817> :P
[05:48] <Amaranth> chibifs: It was a bot flood.
[05:48] <goldfish> !resolution
[05:48] <JohnFlux> h08817: it's your client that turns the text into faces
[05:48] <h08817> :o
[05:48] <Amaranth> ubotu died in the flood
[05:48] <JohnFlux> h08817: nothing to do with irc
[05:48] <goldfish> Amaranth: Ah right.
[05:48] <goldfish> :)
[05:49] <ashok> hi, please tell me how to change the icon properties
[05:49] <serengeti> what was that?
[05:49] <TeLeKiNeSiS> vlc won't load
[05:49] <TeLeKiNeSiS> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vlc/wxvlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb
[05:49] <leroj> what the hell?
[05:49] <Will_> you should be using irssi, like real men
[05:49] <ashok> where to set the icon properties ?
[05:49] <TeLeKiNeSiS>   MD5Sum mismatch
[05:49] <TeLeKiNeSiS>   MD5Sum mismatch
[05:49] <TeLeKiNeSiS> W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/v/vlc/wxvlc_0.8.1-1ubuntu7_i386.deb
[05:49] <TeLeKiNeSiS> I can't even install vlc
[05:49] <goldfish> TeLeKiNeSiS: topic.
[05:49] <TeLeKiNeSiS> I need help installing vlc
[05:49] <djp> tanki: irivers do support the ogg format, that is why i like them. don't own one though, unfortunately! got one for a friend, for his travels ( he paid for it though!). it was very good.
[05:49] <zAo^> when will FF 1.0.5 be release for Ubuntu?
[05:49] <djp> what the hell was that!
[05:49] <andares> http://rafb.net/paste/results/tQtHFk97.html
[05:49] <djp> well done tritium!
[05:49] <Amaranth> zAo^: in breezy
[05:49] <andares> WHAT THE HELL
[05:49] <djp> tanki: sorry, i probably missed a few of your comments due to some idiot flooding the chat room
[05:49] <anacron> TeLeKiNeSiS: remove the us, and don't paste here
[05:49] <andares> What's happening?
[05:49] <TeLeKiNeSiS> goldfish: topic ?
[05:49] <djp> tanki: every little helps. for example if a friend asks for advice regards an mp3 player, point them in the direction of iriver, who do support the ogg vorbis format
[05:49] <andares> Did we get clonebot attacked?
[05:49] <djp> tanki: try and rip your music cd's in the ogg vorbis format from now on... etc, etc...
[05:49] <din> yeah, it's annoying
[05:49] <din> Will_, so did xchat
[05:49] <djp> tanki: i won't download any mp3 podcasts. i email the autohr of the podcast and ask them to make available a version in ogg format otherwise i won't listen to their podcast and they lose a listener
[05:49] <JohnFlux> TeLeKiNeSiS: try apt-get update
[05:49] <h08817> when will my computer allow ubuntu to be installed
[05:49] <goldfish> TeLeKiNeSiS: read the topic :) us mirror is broken.
[05:49] <tanki> djp, i'm used to it
[05:49] <Amaranth> zAo^: hoary will get security fixes backported to the 1.0.2 version it has
[05:49] <zAo^> Amaranth, I'm on Breezy right now
[05:49] <rgould> hmm - xchat is going crazy - lots of "lGIRL^ :No such nick/channel" going by, with different usernames
[05:49] <tritium> KR-data, not your fault
[05:49] <tritium> One moment
[05:49] <TeLeKiNeSiS> oh
[05:50] <tritium> KR-data, CTCP flood
[05:50] <tritium> Thanks UdontKnow, alindeman
[05:50] <h08817> did someone cause it?
[05:50] <andares> Er...
[05:50] <tritium> djp, I didn't do anything...Amaranth and the freenode staff did
[05:50] <andares> * JERICHO is now known as M|suck|
[05:50] <andares> * akdentruck is now known as trend3
[05:50] <andares> * trend3 is now known as B{sex}7
[05:50] <andares> o_o
[05:50] <andares> Yay.
[05:50] <andares> http://rafb.net/paste/results/tQtHFk97.html
[05:50] <andares> Will_, pretty much./
[05:50] <andares> Hi.
[05:50] <andares> Again.
[05:51] <ConfusedNewbie> While I'm here, I need to know how to reinstall a couple font packages. They are needed to update Unbuntu_desktop, but I can't seem to reinstall them without reinstalling the font packages... I thinl
[05:51] <tanki> djp, speaking of podcasts, do you want the address to one i listen to regularly?
[05:51] <chibifs> Whew, finally closed all of those windows.
[05:51] <zAo^> lol
[05:51] <zAo^> why didnt you kill it?
[05:51] <chibifs> Er, tabs
[05:51] <h08817> chibifs: probably would have been easier to close gaim
[05:51] <zAo^> ^^
[05:51] <h08817> or restart gnome
[05:51] <chibifs> Because I'd lose voice in a few channels that I can't get revoiced in :P
[05:51] <h08817> o
[05:52] <h08817> why not?
[05:52] <djp> tanki, sure
[05:52] <h08817> how did u become voiced in the first place?
[05:52] <tanki> let me check first if they offer non-mp3s
[05:52] <chibifs> Lazy voicing. :P
[05:52] <chibifs> Only a few people in the channel voice me :D
[05:52] <anacron> if im going to make my ubuntu work as a router, do i configure the other network card static or with dhcp?
[05:52] <h08817> o well
[05:53] <zAo^> anacron, always use static
[05:53] <h08817> i want a pony :o
[05:53] <h08817> lol
[05:53] <lfs> as router
[05:53] <lfs> is static
[05:53] <lfs> if it ihas a dhcpcd server
[05:53] <tanki> djp, twit.tv
[05:53] <TeLeKiNeSiS> If the US mirror is broken where can I download the packages?
[05:53] <TeLeKiNeSiS> automatically?
[05:53] <ccc> the flood stopped yea?
[05:53] <h08817> i am fed up with ubuntu i think it is impossible to fix my computer to allow it to install
[05:53] <tanki> they have oggs too but they might be upgrading because i can't reach the download server
[05:54] <zAo^> use NL....
[05:54] <h08817> does any1 have a  hammer i can borrow?
[05:54] <zAo^> or better: BR
[05:54] <goldfish> TeLeKiNeSiS: change us to a non-broken mirror in sources.list
[05:54] <zAo^> what is it h08817 ?
[05:54] <TeLeKiNeSiS> how?
[05:54] <TeLeKiNeSiS> I'm new to Linux
[05:54] <h08817> well my computer won't install ubuntu
[05:54] <TeLeKiNeSiS> I had very minimal DOS Linux experience
[05:55] <zAo^> TeLeKiNeSiS, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:55] <djp> tanki: thanks for the pointer. good to see ogg vorbis support! ;)
[05:55] <tanki> djp, do you also like videozines?
[05:55] <rob^> DOS linux experience?
[05:55] <h08817> it will try to boot to it but then i get an error
[05:55] <TeLeKiNeSiS> thank zAo^
[05:55] <Discipulus> hmm
[05:55] <konki_> http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ or  # apt-get update   # apt-get install vlc libdvdcss2
[05:55] <Discipulus> wtf was that?
[05:55] <zAo^> np TeLeKiNeSiS, welcome to linux :)
[05:55] <tanki> djp, well most of the techie stuff i listen to is open source friendly
[05:55] <h08817> isolinux: extremely bad bios
[05:55] <tanki> i mean the people that run the shows
[05:55] <h08817> where is the tutorial for installing and for FAQs
[05:55] <h08817> ?
[05:56] <tanki> djp, systm.org is another good one
[05:56] <TeLeKiNeSiS> zAo^ Thanks :)
[05:56] <tanki> i also bought their shirt to support the cause, i also need more blue in my wardrobe
[05:56] <TeLeKiNeSiS> zAo^ from a terminal screen correct?
[05:56] <zAo^> yes :)
[05:56] <TeLeKiNeSiS> ok
[05:56] <goldfish> the terminal is your friend !
[05:56] <h08817> anything in particular i should know about linux since i am also new to linux
[05:56] <h08817> been on windows forever
[05:57] <TeLeKiNeSiS> goldfish, unfortunately it's not my friend yet
[05:57] <TeLeKiNeSiS> I don't know how to navigate
[05:57] <goldfish> TeLeKiNeSiS: It will be :)
[05:57] <apokryphos> h08817: it's going to require diligence :)
[05:57] <zAo^> h08817, what is it that you use your computer for?
[05:57] <TeLeKiNeSiS> Nothing like DOS
[05:57] <TeLeKiNeSiS> or Windows
[05:57] <TeLeKiNeSiS> lol
[05:57] <goldfish> TeLeKiNeSiS: cd = change directory, ls = list contents like dir in dos.
[05:57] <supernix> I don't know why Mozilla does websites better than Konqueror
[05:57] <Gourami> Is it possible to change the boot order with a multi OS installation ?
[05:57] <h08817> well i want to install linux on this computer just to learn it
[05:57] <TeLeKiNeSiS> It's frustrating asking questions because I feel like a newb
[05:57] <h08817> i did install it on another for internet and everytihng else
[05:57] <goldfish> h08817: install and use it, best way to learn.
[05:58] <zAo^> TeLeKiNeSiS, "cd /dir" or "ls" for listing
[05:58] <h08817> i'd love to
[05:58] <goldfish> TeLeKiNeSiS: Everyone starts somewhere.
[05:58] <h08817> but goldfish i can't install it
[05:58] <zAo^> I agree to goldfish
[05:58] <goldfish> h08817: oh right.
[05:58] <supernix> Like the Easylinuxguide.com site is wider than the browser but there is no scroll bar at bottom
[05:58] <TeLeKiNeSiS> Goldfish, true
[05:58] <andares> gstreamer0.8-mad:
[05:58] <andares>  Depends: libid3tag0 (>=0.15.0b) but it is not installable
[05:58] <andares>  Depends: libmad0 (>=0.15.1b) but it is not installable
[05:58] <andares> WHY??!!!
[05:58] <TeLeKiNeSiS> zAo^, Thanks
[05:58] <h08817> i guess i need a new computer
[05:58] <goldfish> TeLeKiNeSiS: I was asking all these questions on here a few months ago :)
[05:58] <zAo^> np
[05:58] <TeLeKiNeSiS> It's easy to get frustrated or overwhelmed and give up
[05:58] <TeLeKiNeSiS> really?
[05:58] <Discipulus> Personally, I like the command line more than I like the GUI
[05:58] <goldfish> TeLeKiNeSiS: ofc.
[05:59] <andares> Why does it do this to me?!
[05:59] <TeLeKiNeSiS> I'm an expert with Microsoft products
[05:59] <TeLeKiNeSiS> but I'm a fool @ Linux
[05:59] <tritium> andares, please calm down
[05:59] <zAo^> andares, breezy?
[05:59] <Gourami> Is it possible to change the boot order with a multi OS installation ?
[05:59] <andares> zAo^, ?
[05:59] <andares> tritium, k.
[05:59] <h08817> grub or lilo
[05:59] <zAo^> andares, Hoary, Warty, Breezy (plz calm down m8 :-)
[05:59] <Discipulus> TeLeKiNeSiS, it's like driving a pos car and then learning to drive a motorcycle
[05:59] <zAo^> h08817, grub
[06:00] <Discipulus> TeLeKiNeSiS, it'll take you a while to transition, but after you get the hang of it, it'll be more fun
[06:00] <TeLeKiNeSiS> pos?
[06:00] <Discipulus> :-D
[06:00] <andares> zAo^, hoary.
[06:00] <TeLeKiNeSiS> Man, I get overwhelmed easily
[06:00] <TeLeKiNeSiS> I see all these different options and commands
[06:00] <Discipulus> TeLeKiNeSiS, Piece of Shit
[06:00] <TeLeKiNeSiS> oh
[06:00] <TeLeKiNeSiS> lol
[06:00] <zAo^> andares, sorry. I'm one of the few Breezy ppl :)
[06:00] <TeLeKiNeSiS> I feel like my head will explode
[06:00] <Discipulus> TeLeKiNeSiS, well, that's just it, in a car, you put it in drive and just go
[06:00] <Discipulus> TeLeKiNeSiS, like in windows
[06:00] <Aragorn_Guardian> how can i access admin in localhost:631 cups?
[06:00] <Discipulus> TeLeKiNeSiS, but in Linux you have all these options and you gotta do this and that
[06:00] <tritium> Aragorn_Guardian, that's disabled
[06:01] <Aragorn_Guardian> :/
[06:01] <Discipulus> TeLeKiNeSiS, like on a motorcycle, like "Do I use the front brake or back brake? Do I downshift or not?"
[06:01] <Discipulus> TeLeKiNeSiS, that kinda stuff
[06:01] <Aragorn_Guardian> i dont use cups in browser, so...
[06:01] <Aragorn_Guardian> where i admin it?
[06:01] <Aragorn_Guardian> by admin panel?
[06:01] <TeLeKiNeSiS> Discipulus, I guess my current knowledge is similar to me knowing how to drive a manual. I can learn to ride the motorcycle with some sort of advantage
[06:02] <TeLeKiNeSiS> So, when I do actually learn how to ride a bike, that's one less step I have to worry about because I can drive a manual
[06:02] <TeLeKiNeSiS> So, I see what you're saying
[06:02] <tritium> Aragorn_Guardian, usually with the gnome cups manager.
[06:02] <Discipulus> ;-)
[06:02] <Discipulus> I love analogies
[06:02] <TeLeKiNeSiS> lol
[06:02] <Discipulus> it makes things easier to learn
[06:02] <Discipulus> like, for example
[06:02] <TeLeKiNeSiS> yup
[06:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> tritium: thanks
[06:02] <Discipulus> sending an email
[06:03] <Discipulus> is like sending a postcard through the mail
[06:03] <Discipulus> anyone is free to read it
[06:03] <Razor-X> ugghhhh....
[06:03] <Discipulus> but sending an encrypted email
[06:03] <Discipulus> is sorta like sending a letter
[06:03] <Razor-X> there needs to be _some_ browser for Linux that prints well
[06:03] <Discipulus> people can look at it
[06:03] <Discipulus> but they can't read it
[06:03] <Discipulus> and if they do
[06:03] <Razor-X> Opera Windows printing is so sexy
[06:03] <zAo^> TeLeKiNeSiS, google a lot and do everything you can in Linux. You'll learn fast
[06:03] <Synergy> firefox
[06:03] <Discipulus> you can usually tell
[06:03] <Synergy> :D
[06:03] <Discipulus> Razor-X, Firefox works well
[06:03] <Razor-X> Synergy: not by a long shot
[06:03] <Synergy> wow damn
[06:03] <Razor-X> I've tried Firefox, bleaters ;)
[06:03] <goldfish> Opera is cool.
[06:03] <jasontech> Lynx
[06:03] <tritium> UdontKnow, may I query you briefly?
[06:03] <Discipulus> Firefox > *
[06:04] <goldfish> links2 !
[06:04] <Razor-X> jasontech: nice for text, but not nice for a limited number of graphics
[06:04] <zAo^> lol
[06:04] <goldfish> Discipulus: do u not find it slow?
[06:04] <jasontech> I have no idea what you guys are talking about
[06:04] <Razor-X> I haven't tried printing with links2....
[06:04] <goldfish> links2 -g with a framebuffer console is sweet.
[06:04] <zAo^> omg :)
[06:04] <TeLeKiNeSiS> ok cool zAo^
[06:04] <Discipulus> goldfish, true, I use a command line proggie when I can
[06:04] <Razor-X> goldfish: I have a hand-compiled version of Twibright Links with a ton of graphics addons
[06:04] <Razor-X> Discipulus: what's your text editor?
[06:05] <goldfish> Razor-X: nice :) is it available anywhere?
[06:05] <Discipulus> Razor-X, vi
[06:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> about xhost...why xhost local:+ and dont xhost localhost?
[06:05] <Razor-X> goldfish: go to the Twibright page, check out the dog simple compilation info, run ./configure --help to make sure you compile in what you want, and voila
[06:05] <Razor-X> Discipulus: emacs here ;0
[06:06] <Razor-X> s/;0/;)/
[06:06] <goldfish> Razor-X: ah right, great :) thanks.
[06:06] <Discipulus> Raptoid, vi > emacs
[06:06] <Discipulus> k-thanks
[06:06] <Razor-X> Discipulus: emacs > j00 > vi > nano
[06:06] <goldfish> lol
[06:06] <Discipulus> Razor-X, psh, you wish
[06:06] <goldfish> ed > *
[06:06] <Aragorn_Guardian> mped need a mention here...lol
[06:07] <tritium> Razor-X, > could mean many things
[06:07] <Razor-X> goldfish: TECO pwnz ed
[06:07] <TeLeKiNeSiS> okay so now that I have this file opened and ready to be editied
[06:07] <Razor-X> tritium: i'm using a math term ;)
[06:07] <TeLeKiNeSiS> *edited
[06:07] <tritium> Razor-X, obviously.
[06:07] <TeLeKiNeSiS> Which server listing do I replace?
[06:07] <Razor-X> haha, like I said before, I would love to see a TECO vs ed fight
[06:07] <tritium> In that case, it doesn't equate with "better"
[06:07] <mumbles> back
[06:07] <mumbles> well mums comptuer still isent fixed
[06:07] <tanki> wb
[06:08] <mumbles> though idc about it anymore
[06:08] <mumbles> and i got 2 waterpistalls
[06:09] <Synergy> is this one offline ?? Fout http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net hoary-extras/restrict Packages
[06:09] <Synergy>   404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[06:09] <tanki> water pistols?
[06:09] <tanki> i'm afraid to ask
[06:09] <tritium> Razor-X, if that's the case, then I guess you dont mean "better than"
[06:09] <Gourami> Anyone ? How do I edit grub to change the default boot selection ?
[06:09] <Razor-X> tritium: I mean "greater than" equate it as you may ;)
[06:09] <tritium> Gourami, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:09] <apokryphos> Gourami: check the Kubuntu guide
[06:09] <apokryphos> !kudos
[06:09] <jasontech> /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[06:09] <tanki> hey raz
[06:09] <Amaranth> ubotu is dead
[06:09] <apokryphos> oh?
[06:09] <Razor-X> tanki: hmmm?
[06:09] <Razor-X> Amaranth: really?
[06:10] <tanki> just saying hi raz
[06:10] <jasontech> Well, where is the bot?
[06:10] <Amaranth> bot flood got him, i guess
[06:10] <jasontech> Did he move to Fedora or something?
[06:10] <Razor-X> tanki: hey ;)
[06:10] <tritium> Amaranth, who runs him?  cafuego ?
[06:10] <Amaranth> yeah
[06:10] <xsdg> jasontech: heh
[06:10] <teferi_> no kidding about "please don't use breezy yet", last night's big X thing came as a bit of a surprise
[06:10] <Razor-X> crimsun, actually
[06:10] <tanki> now i feel like shaving
[06:10] <apokryphos> cafuego: ping
[06:11] <Amaranth> teferi_: X works fine here
[06:11] <tritium> no, don't think it's crimsun.
[06:11] <Amaranth> it's cafuego
[06:11] <Razor-X> odd.....
[06:11] <Amaranth> he isn't here, i've tried pinging him
[06:11] <apokryphos> Alrighty :)
[06:11] <teferi_> Amaranth: last night's dist-upgrade broke xserver-xorg out into a jillion modularized packages
[06:11] <apokryphos> Amaranth: you warmed to him yet? ;-)
[06:11] <Amaranth> teferi_: and?
[06:11] <Amaranth> apokryphos: users want him, i'm powerless
[06:11] <tritium> teferi_, yeah, that's been planned for some time
[06:11] <serengeti> I know I'm repeating myself, but there's been this flood thing and all... is there a way to set the text console at 1024x768 with refresh rate better than the standard lousy 60Hz? I've heard about radeonfb (my gfx card is Radeon 9100) but don't really know what to do first
[06:11] <teferi_> tritium: yeah, no hurry, it wasn't a real problem
[06:12] <apokryphos> Amaranth: :)
[06:12] <inemo> Amaranth: poking him with a long stick might be more effective than pinging ;)
[06:12] <teferi_> my current beefs with breezy are all kernel-related anyway
[06:12] <Amaranth> teferi_: install xserver-xorg-input-{mouse,kbd} and xserver-xorg-driver-foo where foo is the driver you use (skip this is you use a closed source driver)
[06:12] <Gourami> thank you
[06:12] <teferi_> Amaranth: did it last night already
[06:12] <tritium> serengeti, it all depends on what vga modes your video chip supports
[06:12] <teferi_> like i said, i fixed it, it just came as a surprise
[06:12] <Amaranth> teferi_: kernel related? you mean the lack of l-r-m?
[06:12] <teferi_> Amaranth: aye
[06:12] <tritium> serengeti, the best I can get is vga=792
[06:12] <Amaranth> blame ATI, for a start
[06:13] <teferi_> can't upgrade udev until i can use 2.6.12, can't use 2.6.12 until l-r-m finally goes in :)
[06:13] <Amaranth> afaik ATI has not released drivers that work with 2.6.12 yet
[06:13] <teferi_> oh.
[06:13] <teferi_> lovely.
[06:13] <serengeti> tritium, but it's still 60hz, isn't it
[06:13] <tritium> Amaranth, I've got to go.  See you later.
[06:14] <teferi_> i only need it for one driver, i suppose i could just build madwifi by hand for now
[06:14] <Amaranth> bye
[06:14] <Amaranth> tritium: are you in the access list yet?
[06:14] <tritium> Amaranth, which one?
[06:14] <tritium> for this channel?
[06:14] <Amaranth> #ubuntu
[06:14] <tritium> Amaranth, yes, thanks.
[06:14] <Amaranth> cool
[06:14] <tanki> it's 2005 why dont we have machines that shave us, like in the jetsons
[06:14] <tritium> Amaranth, thanks for asking.  See you
[06:14] <teferi_> tanki: do you really want a robot with a blade near your throat?
[06:14] <comar> allo. Is it possible to mount a fw disk on ubutu-ppc (g4) ?
[06:15] <cmatheson> tanki: would you *trust* a machine to do that? yeowza!
[06:15] <Amaranth> tanki: teach a machine to shave and it'll learn how to cut your throat :)
[06:15] <teferi_> wow, deranged minds think alike
[06:15] <tanki> teferi, as long as it has a strong root password, i wouldn't fear
[06:15] <Synergy> my repositories still don't work
[06:15] <Synergy> i use FR
[06:15] <Amaranth> Synergy: try straight archive.ubuntu.com for now
[06:15] <Synergy> can anyone please help me
[06:16] <tanki> tell you what though, if an exploit could cost loss of blood, more people would take security seriously
[06:16] <tanki> lol
[06:16] <Amaranth> Ok folks, I'll be playing a game.
[06:16] <Amaranth> If you need an op ping me.
[06:16] <DekaPink> I'm not impressed with my friend. He wouldn't accept my gift of Ubuntu. xD
[06:16] <tanki> which game ama
[06:16] <Amaranth> meaning say my name, don't actually CTCP PING me
[06:16] <Amaranth> tanki: continuum
[06:17] <tanki> i raise my hand, if ubuntu was running on a bot that could shave me, as long as it wasn't breezy, i would feel safe
[06:17] <jasontech> I tried to convert someone, and I thought I had him, but I think he is not liking Linux/Ubuntu now
[06:17] <teferi_> people focus waaay too hard on "converting" people
[06:18] <teferi_> make good software, sell it for cheaper than the other guys do (and "free" is about as cheap as it gets :)), and the users will follow
[06:18] <mumbles> jasontech,  try him with knoppix
[06:18] <jasontech> Well, he likes the Ubuntu, and will continue using, but he complains from time to time
[06:18] <tanki> well if the software performs better than it could sell itself
[06:18] <m1cr0w4v3> i am wanting to use kubuntu in ubuntu how do i switch from gnomes display manager to kdm? there is a command line option what is it please
[06:18] <Synergy> does anyone also having problems with the repo's
[06:19] <Synergy> i can't install nothing
[06:19] <jesper> m1cr0w4v3: apt-get install kdm
[06:19] <Gourami> !kudos
[06:19] <teferi_> Synergy: you mean you *can* install stuff? why are you asking, then? :)
[06:19] <konki_> Synergy, check the topic out..
[06:19] <m1cr0w4v3> jesper, i have kdm i want it to load at boot
[06:20] <jesper> m1cr0w4v3: dpkg-reconfigure kdm .. select kdm when prompted
[06:20] <Gourami> lol ok how and where do I find kubunti, grub menu.lst isnt helping much, all entries are identical
[06:20] <Synergy> teferi_, i cant install
[06:20] <Synergy> nothing
[06:20] <m1cr0w4v3> jesper, good thanku
[06:20] <nEmiSH> Where can I make a small suggestion about the Live CD/DVD's?
[06:20] <Synergy> because my repo's don't work
[06:21] <goldfish> Synergy: using us mirrors?
[06:21] <serengeti> i've entered sudo modprobe radeonfb in the console and something has changed, but I don't know how to set the resolution
[06:21] <Synergy> no
[06:21] <ErmaC`> can someone help me? i want to format my NTFS Disk on wich windows XP is installed....
[06:21] <Synergy> uk
[06:21] <teferi_> serengeti: fbset
[06:21] <teferi_> you will probably have to install it
[06:21] <WildMagic> ErmaC`, so what's the problem?
[06:22] <teferi_> also, read the docs, it can be rather confusing :/
[06:22] <serengeti> teferi thanks I'll try fbset :)
[06:22] <ErmaC`> there is not exactly a problem WildMagic but i have now ubuntu AND Windows XP i want to format the windows partition so i can use it for ubuntu
[06:22] <teferi_> good luck, don't blow up your video card
[06:22] <jorgp2> what wireless G pcmcia cards are supported by hoary?
[06:23] <WildMagic> ErmaC`, ok. just use fdisk to delete the partition and create a new one in its place...
[06:23] <teferi_> jorgp2: anything with an atheros chipset, definitely
[06:23] <serengeti> teferi_, no risk no fun :p
[06:23] <ErmaC`> ok WildMagic thx
[06:23] <ErmaC`> i forgot the command
[06:23] <ErmaC`> thx
[06:23] <teferi_> serengeti: remember, black smoke is *bad*
[06:23] <Gourami> grrrrrrrrrrr
[06:23] <teferi_> :)
[06:23] <jorgp2> teferi_: I dont know which cards those are
[06:24] <DekaPink> Is there anything like TMPGenc for linux? :3
[06:24] <disposable_mike> teferi_: I think the Wiki has a list of known working cards
[06:24] <teferi_> marvelous, but you're telling the wrong person
[06:24] <ErmaC`> WildMagic, isn't there something like a script so i just have to select stuff etc in terminal?
[06:24] <disposable_mike> teferi_: oops, sorry, wrong person
[06:24] <serengeti> teferi_, I know, black smoke bad, white smoke good :]
[06:25] <DekaPink> o.O
[06:25] <WildMagic> ErmaC`, not that I am aware of. actually this is so simple that you don't even need a script
[06:26] <zukalk> is it safe to " e2fsck -D " my /dev/hda?
[06:26] <ErmaC`> i mean something like a program wich views all partitions
[06:26] <coreyo> where do I set which device is associated with what driver/module for the hal device manager?  When I put in my wireless card, it's associating it with acx_pci, but that'd very buggy.  I'd rather use ndiswrapper.
[06:26] <WildMagic> ErmaC`, yes. its called fdisk :)
[06:26] <ErmaC`> it was something like fdisk but it wasn't that i guess
[06:26] <ErmaC`> oh :(
[06:26] <ErmaC`> :p
[06:27] <goldfish> cfdisk?
[06:27] <goldfish> nm
[06:27] <ErmaC`> yes that's it i guess goldfish
[06:27] <yonil> anyone knows where are the settings for the gnome panel setup stored ? (which icons are there and where they are placed etc.)
[06:28] <teferi_> yonil: some of it is in ~/.gnome2, some of it is probably in gconf
[06:28] <yonil> teferi_, thanks
[06:28] <nEmiSH> Where can I make a suggestion about how the Live Ubuntu works?
[06:28] <teferi_> muck with it by hand at your own risk, yonil
[06:29] <yonil> im well aware :P
[06:29] <serengeti> guess what, it actually WORKS! fbset 1024x768-80 gives me a nice text console and, moreover, I can still switch to X using ctrl-alt-F7... THANKS teferi_ :)
[06:29] <Troy_McClure> !sound
[06:29] <teferi_> serengeti: no problem, be careful, though, fbcon can have some weird interactions with X
[06:29] <zukalk> Troy_McClure, ubotu's not here now
[06:30] <serengeti> teferi_, and as for the moment no smoke has appeared :]
[06:30] <enplo00> how can i instruct hald to launch a command when a device is plugged in? more specifically, why doesn't the import from camera dialog popup when a usb PTP (not mass-storage) digital camera is plugged in?
[06:31] <ErmaC`> WildMagic,  how do i mount this new linux partition? or do i have to format first
[06:31] <teferi_> enplo00: because you don't have the gphoto2 libraries installed?
[06:31] <coreyo> how does ubuntu determine which driver/module is associated with which device on boot/hotplug ?
[06:31] <teferi_> or if you do, because gphoto2 doesn't support your camera?
[06:31] <teferi_> coreyo: oy, that's buried somewhere...
[06:31] <enplo00> teferi_: nope, they're installed