[00:24] <mapps> hi all
[00:24] <mapps> ;]
[00:29] <daftykins> hallo
[01:58] <mapps> what to watch
[01:58] <mapps> hms
[05:43] <Myrtti> honourable woman has been my reply for the week
[07:40] <SuperMatt> morning all
[07:41] <SuperMatt> I'm thinking we should be able to find a pub in London with "utopic", "utopia" or "unicorn" in the name for the next release party
[07:42] <SuperMatt> http://www.geronimo-inns.co.uk/london-the-lion-unicorn
[07:42] <SuperMatt> like this maybe
[07:42] <SuperMatt> http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/pubsandbars/the-unicorn-info-54649.html
[07:42] <SuperMatt> or this
[08:26] <foobarry_> 7th consecutive day off work :(
[08:26] <foobarry_> this has ruined my good record..
[08:30] <directhex> wife is signed off sick for 6 weeks
[08:34] <SuperMatt> foobarry: under the weather?
[08:35] <foobarry> SuperMatt: just a tad. sickness, bronchitis, fever, now the devasting effects of high dose penicillin on my digestion
[08:35] <foobarry> i've had better weeks :(
[08:37] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy International Dot Day! :-D
[08:43] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:37] <foobarry> nophones4u
[10:40] <foobarry> whats the process for getting a vodafone-locked phone unlocked?
[10:42] <davmor2> foobarry: ring vodafone
[10:42] <foobarry> do they charge £20?
[10:44] <davmor2> foobarry: no idea on the whole they just give you a code or send a message and done.
[10:47] <foobarry> vodafone moto g is £90
[10:48] <foobarry> other ones are 130
[10:50] <foobarry> davmor2: vodafone charge £20
[10:50] <foobarry> there's some spyware ridden way to do it too
[10:50] <DJones> foobarry: Could try phones4u, I guess they may be selling stock off cheaply
[10:51] <DJones> I think the last vodafone phone I needed unlocking, I just took it to a local market stall & paid about a fiver
[10:53] <foobarry> firms under administration don't tend to make those sort of decisions AFAIK. they were previously profitable business
[10:53] <foobarry> so might get bought out and continue as before
[11:03] <DJones> Thats true, although I'm not sure who would think about buying them, can't see the operators buying them if they're trying to get more inhouse business, and neither carphonewarehouse because all the phones4u shops are probably sited next door to a carphonewarehouse store, dixons group & carphonewarehouse are merging so thats the major electrical retailer tied up, external party would be unlikely given they haven't got long term deals with the ...
[11:03] <DJones> ... operators, only place I could see that may be interested would be one of the major supermarkets (Tesco etc) looking to expand on their own phone services
[11:09] <awilkins> I thought they should just say "right then, we'll just sell phones"
[11:10] <awilkins> But it underscores that their business model isn't selling phones, it's selling contracts and insurance
[11:10] <awilkins> But I'd love a major retailer that just sold unlocked phones for sensible competitive prices
[11:23] <DJones> Just read, phones4u are cancelling any iphone 6 pre-orders
[11:28] <mapps> hi all
[11:28] <mapps> why DJones ?
[11:30] <DJones> Presumably having gone into administration & not having agreements with operators, they can't sell any contracts
[11:31] <mapps> ah
[11:31] <mapps> didnt know that
[11:32] <DJones> mapps: Only been anounced this morning
[11:34] <MooDoo> howdy all
[11:35] <mapps> hey MooDoo
[11:35] <mapps> im not sure about the iphone 6..cant decide which id get
[11:35] <mapps> the watch..yea not interested at all
[11:39] <popey> I promised myself that my iPhone 4S would be my last iPhone.
[11:39] <popey> when we announced the phone I said my next phone would be an Ubuntu one.
[11:45] <mapps> i dislike having these 2 year contracts too
[11:46] <popey> thats oldschool
[11:46] <popey> buy device outright
[11:51] <mapps> sed -e "s/SNOWFLAKE/$username/" /etc/openvpn/client.conf.template >$TMPDIR/client.ovpn
[11:51] <mapps> whats that sed -e s/SNOWFLAKE do?
[11:52] <mapps> ah i see
[11:53] <SuperMatt> sed is the best
[11:54] <SuperMatt> as is awk
[11:54] <SuperMatt> learn both
[11:54] <mapps> :)
[11:55] <SuperMatt> but if I'm hotest "sed -e 's/<searchterm>/<replaceterm>/g' -i <file>" is the most common thing you'll use in sed
[11:55] <SuperMatt> and in awk, you'll probably want to use "awk '{print $2'}" which would print the second word of each line
[11:56] <SuperMatt> oops, that was wrong
[11:56] <SuperMatt> awk '{print $2}'
[11:56] <SuperMatt> you'd use that if you just needed to second column out of a certain output
[11:56] <SuperMatt> for instance
[11:56] <SuperMatt> you can replace the 2 with anything
[11:56] <SuperMatt> those are some of my most commonly used sed and awk commands
[11:57] <mapps> i always think sed/awk are confusing
[11:57] <mapps> :D
[11:57] <SuperMatt> they're not when you know what they're doing and how they're doing it
[11:57] <SuperMatt> but then sometimes you just think "well I really only need this so I'll commit it to memory"
[12:07] <popey> yeah, those two things are the only thing I ever do with sed/awk ☻
[12:20] <foobarry> why did phone operators cancel their arrangements with phone4u?
[12:20] <foobarry> did they conspire together?
[12:23] <popey> they didnt all at the same time
[12:23] <directhex> ultimately because they felt they could make more money without phones4u than with
[12:25] <ikonia> popey: did a user follow up with you about the ubuntu package submission process ?
[12:27] <popey> ikonia: he pm'ed me after that conversation with you, then went offline before I could reply
[12:28] <popey> i have an answer for him, but he didnt stick around unfortunately
[12:32] <directhex> afternoon ikonia
[12:34] <foobarry> i want to buy a phone off contract,canty think of anyone besdies amazon atm
[12:34] <mapps> i did pre order the iphone6 with ee..but not really sure if i want it
[12:34] <mapps> ebuyer sell off contract phones iirc
[12:35] <foobarry> any high st?
[12:36] <foobarry> tesco do, but locked to tesco
[12:36] <mapps> hmmm cant think of any
[12:36] <Azelphur> foobarry: if you want cheap and cheerful, the Y300 from Carphone warehouse is quite cool
[12:36] <Azelphur> you can get them for £40 new, and they are a reasonably nippy dual core android device
[12:36] <mapps> annoying about my contract..got unlimited eu minutes and texts but no damn data
[12:36] <foobarry> i'm gettinga moto
[12:36] <mapps> so i have to get a new sim:(
[12:37] <Azelphur> I know a few people who have the Y300s now, they are good :)
[12:38] <Azelphur> http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_ascend_y300-5386.php specs,  http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/buy/huawei-y300-o2pyu-upgra (seems I got the price a tad wrong, but still an awesome deal)
[12:39] <directhex> y300 is garbage IME
[12:39] <directhex> the huawei OS is garbage. as is cyanogen on it
[12:40] <foobarry> wow carphone warhouse dont even sell motorola
[12:40] <Azelphur> directhex: my friend uses it with CM on it with no issues, as his daily driver
[12:40] <directhex> Azelphur: traded mine in at CEX (worth more as a trade-in than a refund) within a week of getting it. it was that awful.
[12:41]  * Azelphur shrugs
[12:41] <Azelphur> what was wrong with it specifically?
[12:41] <directhex> with CM, or the stock OS?
[12:42] <Azelphur> either really
[12:42] <Azelphur> stock I suppose, my mum runs stock and doesn't have issues either
[12:42] <popey> wow, low res
[12:43] <brobostigon> we have a y300 here also, running CM11, biggest issue is so little ram.
[12:43] <directhex> extremely unresponsive, repeatedly struggled to connect to 3G or wifi. all the usual issues of android on an underpowered device, really
[12:43] <foobarry> how much rams
[12:43] <directhex> experience says you can get a lumia 5xx for the same money as an ascent y300, and only one of those is fit for purpose
[12:43] <brobostigon> foobarry: 407mb.
[12:43] <foobarry> oof
[12:43] <Azelphur> directhex: never heard of those issues, heck my friend uses it as his main internet connection through tethering, has no landline, plays games like Minecraft while tethering through it.
[12:43] <foobarry> apps take 1 mins  to load on my htc now \o/
[12:44] <foobarry> something horrific has happened. maybe uber slow storage, or lots of bad blocks
[12:44] <directhex> i would never recommend a y300 to anyone, having owned one. whereas the lumia that replaced it is smoother & faster than my nexus 4
[12:45] <directhex> fewer apps than android, and reddit runs like garbage. that's the hate list for the lumia 520
[12:45] <directhex> oh, the y300 battery was garbage too
[12:46] <Azelphur> strange, as I say I've been passing them out like candy to family and friends and nobody has ever reported any major Y300 issues back to me
[12:46] <Azelphur> I disagree with it being underpowered too, a decent dual core is fine for Android
[12:46] <Azelphur> Maybe you had a faulty unit, as I say, it works fine for all the people I've provided with it, both heavy and light users.
[12:47] <directhex> your friends & family have a poor frame of reference. see also: kia always gets better customer satisfaction ratings than mercedes, since the kia driver's previous car was a j-reg rust bucket
[12:48] <Azelphur> directhex: the guy who tethered actually had a Nexus 4 before the Y300, dropped his N4 and smashed the screen, is so happy with the Y300 he hasn't even bothered to order a replacement screen for his N4 in months now
[12:48] <Azelphur> and I end up using my mums Y300 from time to time, coming from a Nexus 5, again I see no issues with it
[12:49] <directhex> the one thing the y300 was excellent at was being purple
[12:50] <Azelphur> ...the Y300 is black, are we talking about the same phone?
[12:50] <directhex> http://images.carphonewarehouse.com/is/image/cpw/mobiles/large/HUAWEI-Y300_PURPLE_2?wid=232&hei=348
[12:51] <Azelphur> haha, never seen the purple variant before
[12:51] <directhex> i wanted to like it. who wouldn't like a sub-£80 smartphone with android != 2.x?
[12:52] <directhex> who wouldn't like a *purple* sub-£80 smartphone with android != 2.x?
[12:52] <Azelphur> directhex: as I say, maybe you had a faulty unit, I know at least 4 people with that phone, none of them have reported the issues you're mentioning
[12:52] <Azelphur> (that is, 4 people I recommended get that phone, and they subsequently got it)
[12:53] <brobostigon> i find generally it works well, but anything that needs ram, it just slows, like the FB app.
[12:55] <Azelphur> brobostigon: I know one of the guys I recommended is a heavy social networking user, just asked him how the fb app works for him :)
[12:56] <brobostigon> and?
[12:56] <Azelphur> no answer yet
[12:57] <brobostigon> ok,
[12:57] <directhex> maybe the unit i had was defective. it's possible, though i'm dubious, given the speed behaviour is exactly the same as the "needs moar ghz" behaviour that android has had since 1.x
[12:57] <directhex> but that doesn't mean i won't strongly recommend a lumia 500 series, which costs the same, to anyone asking
[12:57] <Azelphur> directhex: yea I know Android plays up on low power devices (anything single core can gtfo)
[12:57] <Azelphur> but, a dual core 1.2 is ample
[12:58] <popey> 13:56:17 < Azelphur> no answer yet
[12:58] <popey> "lol"
[12:58] <Azelphur> hehe
[12:58] <Azelphur> probably busy/sleeping
[12:59] <directhex> once it's finsihed rebooting, he'll be able to reply!
[12:59] <directhex> :D
[13:00] <Azelphur> ;)
[13:01] <Azelphur> found a video on youtube, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ0SIG0kZCY&t=2m30s
[13:01] <Azelphur> doesn't seem overly sluggish, admittedly not perfect but then what do you expect from a budget device, it seems to perk up once all the content is loaded.
[13:03] <Azelphur> just noticed in the related videos, it can run Real Racing 3, that's insane... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K8hE1KNtnQ&t=2m20s
[13:03] <Azelphur> I would not have expected real racing 3 on that device, at all
[13:05] <directhex> that's not "overly sluggish" to you? ._.
[13:05] <Azelphur> directhex: nope, a little jitter on scrolling while loading the initial content is not overly sluggish
[13:05] <directhex> anyway, now you mention it, the charge cable was certainly defective (pins were screwed up), so could the phone also have had dubious QA & been defective
[13:06]  * Azelphur shrugs
[13:10] <directhex> Azelphur: okay, here is what i'm comparing to. note, this device has a cpu 16% slower than the y300. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8aaYL6ifaU#t=461
[13:11] <popey> welp, its official https://mojang.com/2014/09/yes-were-being-bought-by-microsoft/
[13:11] <Azelphur> directhex: yea, it's smoother for facebook, but of course how fast the facebook app works is a terrible metric :)
[13:11] <directhex> it's the one you picked!
[13:11] <Azelphur> popey: inb4 xbox exclusive
[13:12] <Azelphur> directhex: no, brobostigon mentioned it.
[13:13] <brobostigon> because the FB app is incredibly slow, even on my nexus7,
[13:13] <brobostigon> for example.
[13:13] <Azelphur> ^ is why it's a terrible metric
[13:14] <brobostigon> its ram and cpu heavy, and sucks battery power also, its fail.
[13:14] <Azelphur> indeed
[13:15] <directhex> my point, lost in all this, is windows phone is *incredibly* smooth, as far as UX goes, on any spec. even the slowest, weakest, single-core-est device they ever shipped. if i were looking for a low-spec phone, i know from experience that windows phone does a superb job of making low-spec usable, and that android cannot make that same spec as smooth
[13:15] <Azelphur> brobostigon: it'd be interesting to see how the FB app on the Y300 compared to the N7 for example :)
[13:16] <Azelphur> directhex: indeed, but at the same time you sacrifice a lot of functionality for that smoothness
[13:16] <brobostigon>  compared in which ways, we have both devices.
[13:16] <Azelphur> brobostigon: I mean, speed wise
[13:17] <foobarry> directhex: have you also tried unbuntu on phones?
[13:17] <Azelphur> comparing FB app on Android to FB app on WP is silly
[13:17] <Azelphur> but comparing FB app on Y300 vs N7, gives you an idea how well the budget phone performs compared to a high end device
[13:18] <brobostigon> having over double the ram in my nexus7, to that of the y300, makes a big difference.
[13:18] <Azelphur> I see
[13:19] <ikonia> afternoon directhex

[13:20] <ikonia> popey: thanks for trying
[13:20] <popey> np
[13:21] <directhex> foobarry: no, i haven't used ubuntu phone
[13:21] <bomper> ello room
[13:21] <bomper> new to irc
[13:22] <bomper> any good xchat tuts around?
[13:23] <bomper> oh well cya!
[13:23] <ikonia> ....ok
[13:23] <christel> ikonia! i can't believ eyou still haven't taken me out for beer! i've been in the west country for like SIX MONTHS now!
[13:23] <christel> and i haven't made a single friend :(
[13:23] <christel> SO SADS
[13:24] <ikonia> christel: lets make it so, I've had to be "away" for a while due to an ill family member
[13:24] <ikonia> but I got back last week so lets make it happen
[13:25] <christel> oh no, i am sorry to hear that! i hope they have recovered
[13:25]  * christel hugs
[13:25] <christel> yes! let's make it so :)
[13:25] <ikonia> number one
[13:26] <christel> \o/
[13:27] <popey> christel: you moved!?
[13:27] <directhex> ikonia: i don't think we've ever had a beer either. you should beer more.
[13:29] <christel> popey: ack yes, i spent six months being so poorly last winter (developed a shedload of allergies that caused asthma and an unbelievable winter of lung issues) so we decided to head to the west country to be closer to the grandparents :)
[13:29] <Myrtti> boom https://mojang.com/2014/09/yes-were-being-bought-by-microsoft/
[13:30] <directhex> 2 point 5 billion
[13:30] <ikonia> directhex: I'll try to fix that
[13:30] <ikonia> directhex: my beer in take in the last 24 months has been low, I'll try to fix
[13:30] <christel> popey: it is very strange, i am surrounded by cows. they moo at me :)
[13:30] <popey> haha
[13:31] <christel> (actually, sometimes they STARE at me and I get all nervous)
[13:32] <popey> when I worked in wales i had to find the B&B which was in the middle of nowhere. I phoned them and they said "Where are you?" I said "I dunno, I'm on a hill and I can see lots of sheep" - "You must be nearby then!"
[13:32] <davmor2> christel: do you often ask them if you have moo'd today
[13:33] <christel> https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10464252_10152572476895937_6807350504372811915_n.jpg?oh=cf66e70f74f1814d18ca268fb6010046&oe=54C98F45 is what i see when i look out of my bedroom window in the morning
[13:34] <davmor2> directhex: it's not like anyone plays minecraft right, or like it sold rights to lego or anything
[13:34] <directhex> microsoft owns a very popular pile of cross-platform java
[13:34] <christel> popey: lol
[13:34] <directhex> probably the only reason java gets installed on desktop pcs in 2014
[13:35] <ikonia> virtual kvm's
[13:35] <ikonia> popular reason to get frustrated with java
[13:37] <popey> http://pastebin.com/n1qTeikM notch posted his reasons
[13:38] <directhex> how popular is "popular" though? 17 million people own minecraft for pc
[13:40] <popey> So it'll come to Windows phone now.
[13:41] <popey> which it never did previously.
[13:41] <popey> That'll get Microsoft some young eyeballs
[13:41] <davmor2> popey: no it won't not unless the don't ship it on android anymore
[13:42] <popey> It will.
[13:42] <popey> Windows phones are in shops, and when mums and dads buy phones for little jonny and jane one major question is "does it run minecraft"
[13:42] <popey> if no then goodbye phone.
[13:43] <jpds> Not "does it run ubuntu phone?" ?
[13:44] <popey> is that a new game?
[13:46] <directhex> "Portal was first released as part of The Orange Box for Microsoft Windows and Xbox 360 on October 9, 2007, and for the PlayStation 3 on December 11, 2007. The Windows version of the game is also available for download separately through Valve's content delivery system Steam and was released as a standalone retail product on April 9, 2008" - portal was part of a variety pack when it shipped, not a standalone game
[13:46] <ikonia> is it good ?
[13:46] <directhex> gah, ECHAN
[13:46] <ikonia> portal, such a good game,
[13:47] <ikonia> I'm sad there isn't a new one
[13:47] <Myrtti> I'd love to play it but I get sick
[13:48] <ikonia> portal makes you feel sick ?
[13:48] <Myrtti> yup.
[13:48] <ikonia> or ubuntu phone
[13:48] <Myrtti> falling from heights
[13:48] <ikonia> it's quite all over the place when you bonce through a hole
[13:48] <Myrtti> yup
[13:50] <Myrtti> I can just about play Assassin's Creed
[13:50] <Myrtti> even that is a bit difficult
[13:50] <Myrtti> I can't imagine how bad it were if it was 3D
[14:10] <diddledan> morning
[14:11] <diddledan> srs? I got disconnected for over 30 mintues and now I'm back on the net again my remote ssh connection that was running before the d/c is _still responding_
[14:11] <diddledan> that's one heck of a resiliancy
[14:31] <diddledan> http://img.memerial.net/memerial.net/2199/can-reveal-hidden-laser-traps.jpg
[14:39] <davmor2> diddledan: how often in your life do you walk into a laser trap?  I would suggest if it is more than 0 you need to change your job :P
[14:40] <diddledan> I don't know, because I don't smoke!
[14:41] <davmor2> diddledan: besides sure vaps would be better for that too I've seen the amount of vapour those things give off :)
[14:41] <diddledan> lol
[14:42] <diddledan> so you want to be a pentester: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj0OoWyf9yA
[14:42] <diddledan> (where I got that image off)
[14:43] <diddledan> one thing they mention is that their clients have insisted in the past to know what tools they're gonna use and what IP they're coming from. I've had the reverse where a pentester has complained that we blocked them
[14:45] <davmor2> diddledan: and then you got fired for giving them access without the proper authorisation ;)
[15:44] <awilkins> We had that... pentesters who asked for the admin password
[15:44] <awilkins> Couldn't decide if they were just being meta or not
[15:47]  * awilkins 7.4Mdoge/s
[15:52] <diddledan> awilkins: it might be a clever social engineering attack
[15:57] <daftykins> it's all about the flash drive sprinkling at the entrance
[15:57] <awilkins> I don't want a flash drive after someone has sprinkled on it
[15:57] <diddledan> that sounds like a bonding experience
[15:57] <diddledan> mass flash drive sprinkling
[15:58] <daftykins> you guys are ruining the family friendly ambiance :(
[15:58] <diddledan> oops
[15:59] <diddledan> to be honest, I wasn't aware we had our own ambulance
[16:00] <diddledan> do we get enough random muggings to require our own?
[16:25] <diddledan> did anyone else notice that there was an ubuntu global jam over the weekend? 'cos it was pretty quiet you'd be forgiven for missing it entirely! o_O
[16:26] <daftykins> i don't have a clue of any events
[16:26] <diddledan> or is it next weekend?
[16:26] <daftykins> there were fireworks Saturday night, no idea what for
[16:26] <diddledan> \o/ for firewerks
[16:28] <daftykins> i couldn't see them mind, the buildings between me and the town seafront are too tall
[16:28] <daftykins> i could just make out the clouds lit by their light
[16:28] <diddledan> maybe there was actually an invasion and that was gunfire?
[16:28] <daftykins> ;)
[16:29] <daftykins> that explains why everyone looked different today
[16:29] <daftykins> perhaps i'm the only one left
[16:29] <diddledan> you know what us northerners are like about invading people of late!
[16:30] <diddledan> heck even the northern northerners want rid of the association. come friday they might be going it alone
[16:30] <diddledan> that is until we invade them again
[16:30] <diddledan> I think that's the plan - let them vote for independance and then invade and rule with an iron fist
[16:31] <daftykins> XD
[16:31] <daftykins> you best buy your northern eggs whilst you can, sir
[16:43] <awilkins> "In breaking news, it has been revealed that ISIS stands for Independent Scotland Is Subjugated"
[16:45] <awilkins> "Oops, sorry, that's next months bulletin"
[16:45] <awilkins> "This months says 'Independent Scotland Is Satanic'  "
[16:46] <awilkins> "Cabinet source were reported as saying that the intelligence services had 'had a bit of a mix-up when Googling something' "
[16:46] <awilkins> "David Cameron pledged immediately to take action to prevent the heathen Scot from becoming an undue influence on the youth of NuBrit"
[16:50] <daftykins> really can't stand politics on IRC
[16:50]  * DJones points awilkins to #ubuntu-uk-politics
[16:51] <awilkins> That was satire!
[16:51] <awilkins> :P
[16:51] <Myrtti> I can happily ignore most politics on IRC
[16:51] <Myrtti> it's social issue commentary that rails me
[16:52] <daftykins> social what now?
[16:56] <diddledan> daftykins: yes, that's the one
[16:57] <diddledan> discussing social whatnow should be a T&C (either for or against, just mentioned so we know which)
[16:57] <Myrtti> immigration 'criticism', ethnic minority 'discussions', misogynism. And this wasn't an invite to start discussing them, because I just get my blood pressure soaring
[16:58] <daftykins> Myrtti: you could always try being on topic yourself ;)
[16:58] <diddledan> Myrtti: so how about those current affairs, eh?
[16:59] <diddledan> they're somewhat "current" IMO
[16:59] <diddledan> and we all know how affairs end up
[17:00] <daftykins> so glad this person email'd me with their NAS' serial number
[17:01] <daftykins> means i am requesting my rebate of £35 from Lenovo :D
[17:01] <diddledan> lol
[17:06]  * DJones notes not to use daftykins as an IT supplier, he doesn't even record serial numbers of hardware he installs :)
[17:08] <daftykins> DJones: i didn't expect to end up in hospital unable to ride there again.
[17:08] <daftykins> and my memory's gone wonky.
[17:09] <DJones> Hah, wait till you mine and the theopensourceer's age, memory is one of those things kinds have, but you can't remember having kids, so even they can't remeber for you :)
[17:11] <DJones> s/kinds/kids/
[17:11] <daftykins> it was more faceplanting the road at 20mph that affected my memory, forget age ;)
[17:14] <DJones> Mine is the opposite, I've not faceplanted the road, but I have got older
[17:32] <ujjain> do people here prefer glossy or matte screens?
[17:32] <daftykins> my laptop has a glossy one and there are definitely times when it frustrates me
[17:33] <daftykins> i could swap it out for ~£50 but i don't care enough to do so :)
[17:35] <ujjain> it frustrates me a lot, 27¨ 2560x1440 monitor
[17:36] <daftykins> is this the one you are selling?
[17:37] <ujjain> yeah, how do you sell iḿ sellnig a monitor?
[17:38] <daftykins> no idea, i'm not in your country, whichever it may be
[17:52]  * brobostigon prefers a matte display, like on his kindle.
[17:58] <mapps> hmmm
[17:58] <mapps> ./build-dh is taking ages this time
[17:58] <popey> ujjain: you mentioned it here the other day
[17:58] <popey> I have no idea whether my laptop is matte or gloss
[17:58] <ujjain> ah right yeah, true :)
[17:59] <ujjain> my monitor is just too glossy
[18:09] <popey> anyone know of a browser extension which shows the http content type for a file when I download it?
[18:16] <davmor2> popey: wget x | grep x ;)
[18:22] <popey> yay, chrome dev tools to the rescue
[18:23] <davmor2> popey: f12 in firefox 2 possibly
[18:23] <davmor2> s/2/too
[18:52] <diddledan> popey: you could have done it the haxx0r way with curl :-p
[18:52] <diddledan> curl -I http://bar.bar/black/sheep
[18:54] <ali1234> popey: can you see your reflection in the screen?
[18:54] <ali1234> (when it is turned off)
[18:55] <davmor2> ali1234: I can see my reflection when it's on
[18:56] <ali1234> even if you display a fully white screen?
[18:57] <davmor2> ali1234: well then I can't see anything just full stop ;)
[19:07] <popey> ali1234: no
[19:07] <popey> diddledan: nope, authed website
[19:08] <diddledan> aww
[19:09] <ali1234> popey: it's matte then
[19:09] <popey> dont think I've ever owned a glossy one then
[19:09] <popey> why do people like them?
[19:09] <ali1234> because they are shiny
[19:09] <diddledan> mmm, shiny
[19:09]  * diddledan petpet
[19:09] <ali1234> also easier to clean fingerprints off them
[19:11] <ali1234> you want a glossy screen on a tablet or phone for that reason
[19:11] <ali1234> like the nexus 7, that's a glossy screen
[19:21] <popey> https://imgur.com/qTJ7Wb5
[19:21] <diddledan> popey: is that what microsoft plans for minecraft?
[19:25] <MartijnVdS> diddledan: nah, they'll replace the square tiles on the Win8 home screen with cubes
[19:25] <MartijnVdS> minecraft cubes
[19:25] <ujjain> 200 pound for a dp2710 2560x1440 korean monitor seems fine right? I found a buyer.
[19:29] <popey> its 204 new on ebay, free postage, so yeah.
[19:37] <ujjain> when I bought it, I had to pay 40/50 pound to some guys btw
[19:37] <ujjain> I dont know their nmame in English
[19:37] <ujjain> like border control
[19:37] <popey> VAT
[19:41] <MartijnVdS> import duties + VAT
[19:42] <MartijnVdS> In .nl, we pay those too, + a €20 "service fee" to the postal company...
[19:45] <ujjain> Yeah exactly!
[19:46] <ujjain> well, in 45min buhyer should be here, I hate the glossy thing. I´ll get a normal one from Amazon, just full-hd, around 110 pound.
[19:47] <ujjain> I am hungry, today I bought chinese but found out at home they didnt include rice, appearently its normal in the UK to sell rice seperately
[19:47] <MartijnVdS> ujjain: Dell U2913WM
[19:48] <MartijnVdS> ujjain: It's the best screen I've ever used
[19:48] <ujjain> thanks, but I´m kind of trying to save and I don´t spend much time behind my PC anymore, so simple should really suffice.
[19:49] <MartijnVdS> it's the same price as a normal screen
[19:49] <ujjain> it´s 385 euro.
[19:51] <ujjain> http://uk.camelcamelcamel.com/IIYAMA-ProLite-E2483HS1-inch-Monitor/product/B00FABG2DI?active=price_amazon&context=home_tracked_deals this was 110pound, seems fine enough for me
[20:14] <popey> \o/ camelcamelcamel
[20:14] <popey> wow, that's wiiiiiide
[20:36] <daubers> Evening
[20:39] <popey> yo
[20:39] <popey> happy birthday for the birthday you had recently
[20:41] <daubers> thanks mr popey
[20:42] <daubers> not a very nice birthday though :(
[20:42] <popey> oh?
[20:42] <daubers> Split up wth the missus recently, so first birthday living on my own
[20:42] <popey> eek!
[20:42] <popey> didnt know that, sorry to hear
[20:42] <daubers> Such is life
[20:43] <daubers> Onwards and upwards and such like
[20:43] <daubers> How goes life at Canonical?
[20:43] <popey> busy
[20:43] <daubers> Good busy?
[20:43] <popey> yeah
[20:43] <popey> fun busy
[20:43] <daubers> Good :)
[20:44] <mapps> living on your own can be fun
[20:44] <daubers> It has its moments.   I think that means it's bedtime.
[23:50] <diddledan> I've got headache. that's really rare. I hope that doesn't mean I'm coming down with smth
[23:50] <diddledan> my parents have been really unwell over the weekend so maybe I'm catching what they got
[23:51] <diddledan> or maybe I'm just hungry
[23:52] <diddledan> anywho, brb. installing updates


[03:37] <Nothing_Much> Can somebody tell me how to report a bug with the 'radeon' driver? o.o
[04:17] <Logan_> Nothing_Much: $ ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[05:04] <Nothing_Much> Logan_: Alright cool, but where do I put my comments explaining the cause of bug?
[05:05] <Logan_> on the bug reporting page that should open in your browser
[05:06] <Nothing_Much> Logan_: After I hit the "send" button?
[05:09] <Logan_> yup!
[05:09] <Nothing_Much> oh sweet
[05:37] <Nothing_Much> Oops, I think I probably shouldn't have added all of those files to that report...
[18:22] <hggdh> Nothing_Much: ubuntu-bug will collect data from your system to help triage


[01:46] <ianorlin> it works
[01:47] <Unit193> Congrats!
[03:10] <mrbean> Hi. I've seen lxde before but in lubuntu is more simple, can I change it? I don't seem to find an option in the settings.
[03:19] <mrbean> :-( bye
[07:21]  * monkwitdafunk checks his lubuntu disk for defects
[07:42] <parlabane> heya
[11:37] <buttee22> hello. could i please get a suggestion for a very easy simple inventory managment software? just to keep track of items coming in and out with basic info...
[16:22] <parlabane> hello all
[16:24] <parlabane> thank you for this really great distro.. and if there is anything i can do.. unfortunately i am not a programmer, but if there is anything i can i would glad to help :)
[17:27] <holstein> !contribute
[17:27] <holstein> parlabane: ^^
[17:28] <holstein> there are more specific lubuntu sources as well, if you search a bit
[18:24] <shock8> Hi there
[18:41] <parlabane> hello shock8
[18:46] <shock8> ah, some living soul here
[18:47] <shock8> I thought the channel was ... chatty
[18:49] <holstein> shock8: this is an official support channel, and by definition not allowed to be chatty.. try the #lubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic for chat
[18:50] <shock8> well, I might need some support with the usb-creator package
[18:51] <holstein> !unetbootin
[18:51] <holstein> ^^ thats what i use
[18:52] <shock8> okay I should introduce a bit more
[18:52] <shock8> I'm using lubuntu on a netbook Asus 1015BXO
[18:53] <shock8> I used to create live flash drives with usb-creator to have a taste of distros but lately I am having some troubles with it
[18:54] <shock8> I am currently running lubuntu 13.04
[18:54] <holstein> shock8: i had troubles with it about 4 years ago, so i started using unetbootin, which i linked, and suggested as an alternative
[18:54] <holstein> !info unetbootin
[18:55] <shock8> yeah definitely could use unetbootin, got it actually, I was just browsing to get some kind of an answer
[18:56] <shock8> lots of bugs are being submitted but no fix
[18:58] <holstein> shock8: while you are trying to descibe to me *exactly* what the issue is, take note of all the vaiables, and maybe have an open mind as to how challenging it might be to nail down a "fix"
[19:01] <shock8> I acknowledge the work (being) done by the dev. I would take my hat off to them if we crossed ways. It is basically because of their work that I'm sticking to Lubuntu.
[19:05] <shock8> It's just that I used it often and it might be since the last upgrade to 13.04 that it's broken. First I wanted to create a precise puppy live, using the last one from the official website. I got a 'isoinfo: Unable to find Joliet SVD". Fixed it installing the gir1.2-gudev1.0 package
[19:05] <holstein> well, you are assuming its "broken"
[19:05] <shock8> Now, it just crashes randomly
[19:06] <holstein> could be an issue with the iso's you are trying to use.. could be anything
[19:06] <holstein> what would i do? load up unetbootin and make a USB stick.. otherwise, open from command line and see if there are any helpful error messages
[19:06] <holstein> try different versions
[19:06] <holstein> try as another user
[19:07] <shock8> ran unetbootin with the same iso, worked well. No helpful message from the command line when crashing actually
[19:08] <shock8> It would not bother me to be the only one in that case, there's still unetbootin as a "solution"
[19:08] <shock8> Let's say that I am just asking
[19:09] <holstein> you can always ask the developer or maintainer.. i would go upstream since this has nothing to do with lubuntu or LXDE specifically
[19:12] <shock8> I followed the bug flow but still nothing definite, but anyway thanks for your time and please excuse the offences if some were taken
[19:13] <holstein> shock8: none taken.. you are welcome


[10:23] <nicholaspaul> raphink. Alrighty. yea, i like konversation too.
[10:23] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, gftp
[10:23] <SweetestSavage> Okay, thank you =)
[10:23] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, just an ftp frontend.
[10:23] <Eraamion> [22:23]  <SweetestSavage> Anyone know of a good FTP client for GNOME?
[10:23] <Eraamion> Filezilla?
[10:24] <SweetestSavage> korhalf, how do you mean?
[10:24] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: i've never seen the time thing in front but sure... you'll probably actually need something like 'fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image' (optionally adding a --revision parm)
[10:24] <SweetestSavage> I just need a program to connect to an FTP server and make transfers via the GUI
[10:24] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, by default, you should have an ftp program at the terminal
[10:24] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, just type ftp host
[10:24] <SweetestSavage> Ah, well, I'll use the termy then
[10:24] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, where host is the host you're ftping too, of course, its all at the terminal and gets annoying, so just use GFTP
[10:24] <_oP> why does quake 3 have problems with arts since i upgraded to breezy?
[10:24] <nicholaspaul> raphink, Thats cool. I'm not married to any OS or app, i'll use whatever works.  Personally.
[10:25] <korhalf> SweetestSavage, in this case gftp > ftp in my opinion, just faster for me at least
[10:25] <selinium> Can anyone help with my sound problems, please.
[10:25] <SweetestSavage> Ah, alright
[10:25] <raphink> nicholaspaul: sure
[10:25] <korhalf> i'm married to linux
[10:25] <nicholaspaul> :)
[10:25] <korhalf> and linux is an app
[10:25] <mcphail> I use DenyHosts to monitor and block access to SSH. Is there a reasonable equivalent for http?
[10:25] <lowman> nsftp is cool :D
[10:25] <lowman> for cli freaks
[10:25] <korhalf> mcphail, wow,i never thought of that either.
[10:25] <korhalf> mcphail, you can deny people from brazil
[10:25] <nicholaspaul> korhalf, give me a pencil anyday. I've never had a piece of paper crash on me and stop me from working :)
[10:25] <cmatheson_> !tell selinium about anyone
[10:25] <Darkhack> quick question.  Is their anyway I can use Dapper (flight2) CD as a bootloader?  I've installed it to the HD but don't want to install grub.  Anyway I can have the installed version boot when I use the CD?
[10:26] <cupOcocoa> is 5.10 dapper drake?
[10:26] <nicholaspaul> cupOcocoa, yes
[10:26] <korhalf> no
[10:26] <korhalf> 5.10 is breezy
[10:26] <Darkhack> no 6.04
[10:26] <cmatheson_> mcphail: you can deny hosts based on ip address etc. in your apache.conf
[10:26] <nicholaspaul> oops youre right!
[10:26] <DewDude> 5.10 is breezy
[10:26] <nicholaspaul> 6.04 Dapper, 5.10 Breezy.
[10:26] <korhalf> cmatheson_, are you serious?
[10:26] <korhalf> i wanna try that
[10:26] <cmatheson_> korhalf: yeah it's pretty sweet
[10:26] <nicholaspaul> <-- idiot!
[10:26] <selinium> cmatheson_, :) I have two sound cards i have got sound but no microphone. any help gratefully received!
[10:26] <mhr> hey guys, short question to not drown in the spam: my speaker beeps on every tab completion i do in the shell, it annoys me, how do i turn it off?
[10:26] <selinium> I have two sound cards i have got sound but no microphone. any help gratefully received!
[10:27] <korhalf> cmatheson_, where exactly? it's a long ass file, what pattern should i search for?
[10:27] <DewDude> does anyone have any idea how i can get monkeys audio to workwith the gstreamer engine
[10:27] <mcphail> cmatheson_: yes, but is there a daemon which will monitor and automatically block these? DenyHosts is simple.
[10:27] <lowman> <--brilliant in his own mind :P
[10:27] <The_Ball> a friend of mine installed ubuntu, but he is unable to sudo or any other admin task and says he wasn't asked for a admin password during setup. what's the go with this??
[10:27] <cmatheson_> selinium: maybe it's muted? run alsamixer and check
[10:27] <ompaul> lowman, would that be smarted than your average bear?
[10:27] <Agedec> Ok, when i type sudo apt-get install mplayer-k6
[10:27] <Agedec> , i get E: Couldn't find package mplayer-k6
[10:27] <Agedec> ...what am i missing?
[10:27] <korhalf> !ubotu tell The_Ball about sudo
[10:27] <cmatheson_> korhalf: it's the 'Deny' thing... check out the good documentation at apache.org... you can do a lot w/ it
[10:27] <Darkhack> Is their anyway I can use the Flight2 CD as a bootloader?  I tried passing "root=/dev/hda4" as a parameter but it didnt work out.
[10:27] <cmatheson_> mcphail: i don't know anything automatic
[10:28] <korhalf> cmatheson_, can you edit the page they see when denied?
[10:28] <korhalf> cmatheson_, because thats even better
[10:28] <selinium> cmatheson_, Hmmm alsamixer is showing the other card, but it is not the one being used...
[10:28] <lowman> ompaul: nah! smart like douglas fir...but I break it I fix it :P
[10:28] <ompaul> lowman, ahh a legend in your own lunchtime
[10:28] <cmatheson_> selinium: you can specify which card... read the alsamixer manpage real quick i forgot what the parameter is
[10:28] <mez__> mhr: edit /etc/inputrc, and uncomment 'set bell-style none'
[10:28] <selinium> cmatheson_, ok Cheers
[10:28] <_oP> now i get /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[10:28] <lowman> ompaul: exacry ;)
[10:29] <_oP> if i switch xmms to alsa
[10:29] <Agedec> anyone know?
[10:29] <nicholaspaul> Agedec, try Synaptic.
[10:29] <lowman> ompaul: is the only way I can leave my mark in this world ...errr *bzzz* :P
[10:29] <MonsieurBon> hello
[10:29] <nicholaspaul> Agedec, could be a typo (thats my common sin)
[10:29] <Agedec> its not on synaptic...checked, thats why i tried by cmd line
[10:29] <nicholaspaul> oh ok.
[10:29] <MonsieurBon> does anybody know how to remove the ati grafic driver?
[10:29] <trappist> mcphail: I use mod_rewrite to redirect those to a download of windows media player 9 from a microsoft server in brazil
[10:30] <_jason> !info mplayer-k6
[10:30] <ubotu> mplayer-k6: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3683 kB, Installed size: 8072 kB
[10:30] <nicholaspaul> Agedec, sorry, i dont have exp. using that player.
[10:30] <_jason> Agedec, do you have multiverse enabled?
[10:30] <nicholaspaul> oh thank you ubotu!!!!
[10:30] <mcphail> trappist: :)
[10:30] <cmatheson_> Agedec: you're going to need special sources installed for mplayer iirc
[10:30] <Agedec> i do not know anything about "Multiverse"
[10:30] <_jason> ubotu, tell Agedec about repos
[10:32] <tyler> is there an easy tutorial for mounting a windows driver?
[10:32] <tyler> err windows partition
[10:32] <selinium> how can I detirmine what has got hold of alsa?
[10:32] <_jason> ubotu, tell tyler about mountwindows
[10:32] <selinium> s/ditirmine/determine
[10:32] <korhalf> selinium, ps ax | grep -i "dsp" ?
[10:33] <tyler> _jason, thanks
[10:33] <khanreaper> Are there any particular reasons that "sudo su" does not actually change the user? Sudo prompts for the password, accepts it, but it does not apparently start su. Likewise, sudo -s does not start a shell. This is on a freshly-installed copy of Ubuntu.
[10:33] <irvin> ubotu, you alive?
[10:33] <ubotu> irvin: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:33] <korhalf> khanreaper, sudo -i starts the shell as root
[10:33] <_jason> khanreaper, sudo -i
[10:34] <Darkhack> Anyone here know how to use an ubuntu CD as a bootloader?
[10:34] <mcphail> korhalf: selinium: sudo fuser /dev/dsp?
[10:34] <khanreaper> It still does not actually change the user. /etc/sudoers is completely vanilla.
[10:34] <selinium> korhalf, it didn't :(
[10:34] <jerome__> Darkhack, you cant as the install/live ce is designed to boot the system burned on the disc
[10:35] <jerome__> Darkhack, but you may try to build your own bootcd
[10:35] <MonsieurBon> Can anyone help me? I installed the ATI graphic driver as explained on their homepage using the installer. However, the driver does not seam to work, in fact, it's working less then without that driver. How do I get rid of that driver???
[10:35] <irvin> khanreaper, did you add the user after installing ubuntu?
[10:35] <cmatheson_> MonsieurBon: why didn't you use the ubuntu package?
[10:36] <khanreaper> No, it was made during an 'expert' install.
[10:36] <Darkhack> Thank you jerome
[10:36] <korhalf> jerome__, are you black?
[10:36] <korhalf> jerome__, i'm not being racist, just wondering
[10:36] <jerome__> I'd need help setting up an Epson DX 3850 printer on 5.10. It asks for a driver and according to some posts i've found on linuxprinting, I choose PM-740C driver. But the printer only empty the paper tray and output blank pages.
[10:36] <slide> How do i install a .deb?
[10:36] <selinium> mcphail: didn't show anything..
[10:37] <korhalf> selinium, it isnt being used then
[10:37] <jerome__> korhalf, why do you care?
[10:37] <trappist> slide: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:37] <slide> ty :)
[10:37] <lowman> slide: dpkg -i whatever.deb
[10:37] <lowman> sudo first :P
[10:37] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, because the ubuntu driver is 6.X and the ati is 8.20. and read somewhere, that the new ati driver would support suspend.
[10:37] <korhalf> jerome__, i've never met an african american who uses linux
[10:37] <trappist> korhalf: don't be an idiot plz kthx
[10:37] <khanreaper> su
[10:37] <jerome__> korhalf, i'm french and white ;)
[10:37] <ZeroIRC> korhalf, Well, you must not talk to people
[10:37] <korhalf> oh vraiment?
[10:38] <selinium> korhalf, mcphail: I still get  ALSA device "default" is already in use by another program  when trying to use sound recorder to test microphone.
[10:38] <manuel_> hello
[10:38] <selinium> korhalf, mcphail: i have two sound cards.
[10:38] <korhalf> j'ai jamais vu un african qui utilise linux
[10:38] <cmatheson_> MonsieurBon: it's not going to be easy to install now... you're going to have to find a list of the files that were installed by the ati driver... delete those, and then reinstall any ubuntu packages that had those files in them
[10:38] <thatch> korhalf: I don't reall believe your questions are appropriate.  And, since it matters to you, the person who introduced me to linux is African American
[10:38] <korhalf> chiwawa_42, je blagues pas.
[10:38] <yggdrasil> trappist you still around ?
[10:38] <bornxbackwards> pourtant ubuntu c'est un mot africain
[10:38] <lowman> selinium: when all else fails REBOOT ...ew ew :P
[10:38] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, how do I get such a list?
[10:38] <trappist> yggdrasil: sorta
[10:39] <yggdrasil> ahh just wanted to say thanks
[10:39] <korhalf> thatch, dude i said im not trying to be racist, it's just ive never met any african americans who use linux.
[10:39] <yggdrasil> that sure helped out
[10:39] <cafuego> Ubuntu is an african word, not an african american word ;-)
[10:39] <cmatheson_> MonsieurBon: i don't know, i don't know how the ati installer works... you're going to have to google
[10:39] <selinium> lowman, been there, done that! :)
[10:39] <chiwawa_42> korhalf, this is the global channel, please keep on using english
[10:39] <trappist> cmatheson_: dpkg -L xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:39] <korhalf> chiwawa_42, thanks
[10:39] <cmatheson_> trappist: he's not using the package
[10:40] <trappist> well, whichever package
[10:40] <Agedec> Ok on the tutorial that ubotu on the multivverse, it shows Hoary Hedgehog, but i dont have that, only breezy
[10:40] <Hal9000> uhm, is it normal to get lots of warnings when compiling a kernel?
[10:40] <chiwawa_42> anyone with an Epson DX 3850 around?
[10:40] <Agedec> should i have the other?
[10:40] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: yeah it's probably ok
[10:40] <_jason> Agedec, read it carefully
[10:40] <korhalf> Hal9000, what do you think?
[10:40] <chiwawa_42> Hal9000, yeah
[10:40] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, it's not possible to just reinstall the ubuntu driver?
[10:40] <chiwawa_42> Hal9000, kernel coders are too dumb to solve warnings ;)
[10:40] <korhalf> Warnings, okay, Errors, no
[10:40] <Hal9000> so linus is a dirty cow :P
[10:40] <lowman> its normal if you are used to errors...errr :P```
[10:40] <k0rnz> is there an apt-get or yum install method for ubuntu distro?
[10:41] <korhalf> k0rnz, yes, apt-get.
[10:41] <k0rnz> from within the distro
[10:41] <korhalf> lol
[10:41] <Agedec> and BTW, i did enable it and all, and still no mplayer shows up
[10:41] <k0rnz> cool, I'm gonna partition to dual boot xp and ubuntu
[10:41] <korhalf> Agedec, add the marillat repository
[10:41] <cafuego> korhalf: No yum, but apt-get or aptitude do CLI stuff.
[10:41] <cmatheson_> MonsieurBon: i don't know, it may be... i don't know how much the driver's files and what not have changed in between versions... you could try to apt-get install --reinstall xorg-driver-fglrx
[10:41] <korhalf> cafuego, thanks cafuego i already knew that :P
[10:41] <_jason> Agedec, go to settings -> repos -> add, make sure you have selected multiverse
[10:42] <anthony_> hello
[10:42] <lowman> yak dual boot ...windoz just steal all the disk space for notta :P``
[10:42] <selinium> anthony, hello!
[10:42] <anthony_> can somebody help me with fixing my ".dmrc" file not having correct permissions
[10:42] <korhalf> i dual boot for Reason and CS:S
[10:42] <yggdrasil> im ust amazed this thing is running
[10:42] <yggdrasil> hard to believe
[10:42] <VeritasVigo> Anyone here using Ubuntu to run an enterprise java application server?
[10:42] <korhalf> till linux supports games better, ill be running windows
[10:43] <meheren> i can't seem to install window maker(plz private messege me so we don't get all this clutter thx) can someone hlep!!!?!?
[10:43] <anthony_> can somebody help me with fixing my ".dmrc" file not having correct permissions
[10:43] <selinium> anthony, wait a little while between repeat posting, if anyone can they will
[10:43] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, I'll try this first then!
[10:44] <cmatheson_> MonsieurBon: good luck
[10:44] <ZeroIRC> Hey, does ubuntu come pre-loaded with ssl?
[10:44] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, thx! ;)
[10:44] <_jason> Agedec, did that allow you to add multiverse?
[10:44] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, in xorg-driver-fglrx is ther a new xorg.conf included?
[10:44] <Raux> hi!
[10:45] <meheren> i can't seem to compile window maker can someone plz help!!!!!!!!!
[10:45] <meheren> i type ./configure
[10:45] <Raux> why I do not have some letters on my keyboard
[10:45] <meheren> make
[10:45] <meheren> make install
[10:45] <cafuego> !info wmaker
[10:45] <ubotu> wmaker: (NeXTSTEP-like window manager for X), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.92.0-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 2220 kB, Installed size: 6104 kB
[10:45] <meheren> !!!and it does not work
[10:45] <ubotu> meheren: I don't know
[10:45] <Agedec> what do i do after "add"?
[10:45] <hoooyt> register 1234569<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:45] <Raux> I I have ubuntu 5.10
[10:45] <cmatheson_> MonsieurBon: no, but i don't think you should need to edit that... if you do first try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:45] <_jason> Agedec, check multiverse
[10:45] <cafuego> meheren: 'sudo apt-get install wmaker'
[10:45] <Raux> nut some letters are missing
[10:45] <meheren> ok
[10:46] <meheren> really??!?? dang ok
[10:46] <meheren> thx!
[10:46] <cafuego> No compiling required.
[10:46] <cafuego> Just make sure 'universe' is enabled.
[10:46] <Agedec> I do, and then hit ok, then i go back and its unchecked
[10:46] <_jason> Agedec, so it didn't add it to the list?
[10:46] <meheren> it is
[10:46] <meheren> i have em all enabled
[10:46] <tibo> #pcinpact
[10:46] <SweetestSavage> Hi there, I am trying to access my home network through the terminal.. and unfortunately I can't, I need to retrieve files from it. How can I do this?
[10:47] <Agedec> i have breezy and the ubunto ones, thats it
[10:47] <meheren> ok so then in the sign in screen i should be able to switch to wmaker?
[10:47] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, I've still got the old xorg.con that should be working too, shouldn't it?
[10:47] <Agedec> ubuntu*
[10:47] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: what kind of home network?
[10:47] <_jason> Agedec, pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list and I'll tell you what to add
[10:47] <selinium> I have two sound cards i have got sound but cant get the microphone to work on either. any help gratefully received!
[10:47] <cmatheson_> MonsieurBon: should be yeah
[10:47] <SweetestSavage> cmatheson_, through an LAN via Router
[10:48] <Agedec> ok, and i appriciate the help :)
[10:48] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: yeah but how are you dishing up the files? nfs? smb? ftp? rsync?
[10:48] <bshumate> hooty hoo!  i am fixing to hook up my Aibo with a little GNU/Linux of her own! http://www.tradeshowhell.com/?q=roboto
[10:48] <SweetestSavage> The address of it is smb://etc/etc
[10:48] <SweetestSavage> I'm not sure what you mean =/
[10:48] <ian_> Hello
[10:48] <MonsieurBon> cmatheson_, alright, restart
[10:48] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: is it just a normal windows network?
[10:48] <_jason> Agedec, np, I was hoping that would work, if it had I would have updated the wiki.  It seems like there is no gui way to add it on a default breezy install.
[10:48] <SweetestSavage> Yes it is
[10:49] <Agedec> ok i have it open, but do you want me to copy/paste or what, cause i dunno what you mean by "pastebin"
[10:49] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: ok, so use smbclient -U username \\\\\host\\share -P
[10:49] <norki> i messed up ubuntu by adding xgamma -gamma 2 to the startup files.. now it won't boot completely. What can I do to fix it?
[10:49] <cmatheson_> Agedec: /topic
[10:49] <_jason> !pastebin
[10:49] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:49] <Raux> damn
[10:50] <Agedec> oh cool
[10:50] <Raux> this 5.10 is shitty
[10:50] <SweetestSavage> How do I found out my username, just my linux one or?
[10:50] <jdong> I'm trying to write a program that generates audio pulses at a given frequency.....
[10:50] <grogoreo> hi
[10:50] <bshumate> Raux: utter not curse words with thine keyboard!
[10:50] <grogoreo> is there anyway I can play an OGG file in reverse?
[10:50] <trappist> jdong: a metronome?
[10:50] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: no, a username that has access to the files you want on that computer
[10:50] <korhalf> Hey guys, i run Plan 9
[10:51] <grogoreo> I have VLC, Totem and XMMS
[10:51] <korhalf> im thinking of switching to ubuntu
[10:51] <jdong> trappist: well, in the 10-30GHz arena :)
[10:51] <cmatheson_> korhalf: hmm, you should check out wmii then
[10:51] <korhalf> lol
[10:51] <bshumate> korhalf: cute lil bunny mascot!
[10:51] <korhalf> Plan 9..
[10:51] <jdong> trappist: you think that'll be possible?
[10:51] <SweetestSavage> Well, I can access it just fine when I open up the network via the GUI, just I have no permissions
[10:51] <Raux> bshumate,  I want to use estonian keyboard which is 105
[10:51] <Raux> bu it is not working
[10:51] <trappist> jdong: ghz audio?
[10:51] <Agedec> ok, topic nam: List contents
[10:51] <ian_> I've just installed ubuntu, after ordering a free CD! ;)   I was wondering how Canonical Ltd, can afford to make the CD and send it to me for nothing.
[10:51] <Agedec> its posted
[10:51] <SweetestSavage> Well, it gives me this error: Unable to open secrets database
[10:51] <Raux> and lang is installed too
[10:51] <jdong> trappist: is that really outrageous?
[10:51] <_jason> Agedec, link me please
[10:52] <bshumate> Raux: hopefully when you get it working, you'll refrain from those foul languages ;-)
[10:52] <Xenguy> ian_: billionaires help =)
[10:52] <jdong> trappist: audio isn't the point... I just want to generate some pulses that can reach the X band
[10:52] <Raux> lol bshumate
[10:52] <Agedec> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5967
[10:52] <derick> hi
[10:52] <Raux> Im from estonia
[10:52] <Raux> >D
[10:52] <dima_> i need help installing oregano
[10:52] <trappist> jdong: your computer hardware definitely isn't capable of generating ghz audio frequencies
[10:52] <jenda> dima_: Open pot, open bag, pour a little oregano powder, stir?
[10:52] <sorush21> guys how do I calibrate my monitor in linux ubuntu breezy kde?
[10:52] <jdong> trappist: ok, darn :-/
[10:52] <trappist> I doubt it's physically possible
[10:53] <dima_> WTF?
[10:53] <bshumate> jenda: carrying oregano in a bag?  what could possibly go wrong?!
[10:53] <Xenguy> ian_: http://markshuttleworth.com/
[10:53] <SweetestSavage> cmatheson_, oops, forgot to use sudo. Uhm, it tells me it's unable to fetch the machine's password
[10:53] <lowman> proctological linux probs huh Raux...been there with mandriva...kde hell :P```
[10:54] <norki> can i install ubuntu over my previous (broken) ubuntu install?
[10:54] <zion_> NO
[10:54] <dima_> hey can anybody here help me istall oregano???
[10:54] <Raux> lowman,  usally I use kde but now I have gnome
[10:54] <jenda> bshumate: Actually, they sell it in little bags, I usually store seasoning in little jars
[10:54] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: unable to fetch the machine's password?
[10:54] <SweetestSavage> Yes
[10:54] <_jason> Agedec, ok have you learnt about using sudo to edit files yet?
[10:54] <tyler> Could anyone help me with setting up my Dell Inspiron wireless?
[10:54] <dima_> what are u talking about??
[10:54] <tyler> I installed ndiswrapper
[10:54] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: try taking the '-P' off the end
[10:55] <tyler> and got the .inf to use, but im getting a fatal error
[10:55] <SweetestSavage> Okay
[10:55] <lowman> well you are stepping up in the world..personally I like the dark dungeon of the CLI myself..but only cuz I tunnel into my box at home from school :P
[10:55] <SweetestSavage> Ah, it worked! Thank you =)
[10:55] <bshumate> nothing like a nice bag of herbs to cheer up the holiday season
[10:55] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: np
[10:55] <Agedec> um, only thing i know how to do is follow tutorials, i dont really "know" what im doing (migrated from XP few days ago)
[10:55] <Agedec> :)
[10:56] <lowman> ya pass the oregano :P
[10:56] <_jason> Agedec, okay, have you read about sudo yet?
[10:56] <Agedec> I roughly know what it does
[10:56] <SweetestSavage> cmatheson_, when I use the "get" command, where does it save to?
[10:56] <norki> if i can't install ubuntu over the broken install, what do i do?
[10:56] <norki> format the entire drive?
[10:56] <foxiness> i can not run evolution after i select view by task on calender, and now every time i run it ,it will give me The Application "evolution-2.4" has quit unexpectedly."", how can i run it again please ?
[10:56] <Agedec> lets me do things with root privies right?
[10:56] <Agedec> or something like that
[10:56] <lovebug356> Hello,
[10:56] <_jason> Agedec, okay we are going to edit sources.list.  In a terminal: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:56] <lowman> Sweetest..whatever folder you were iin
[10:56] <schachtles> hi
[10:57] <lovebug356> What's going on with the mono stuff in dapper?
[10:57] <schachtles> first time in here
[10:57] <_jason> Agedec, yes gives you superuser privileges
[10:57] <trappist> schachtles: get out newbie
[10:57] <SweetestSavage> lowman, what do you mean?
[10:57] <foxiness> and i try this command evolution --sm-disable but it the same is above ^
[10:57] <SweetestSavage> You mean on my hard drive?
[10:57] <Agedec> ok its open
[10:57] <norki> ... can anyone help me?
[10:57] <lowman> yes
[10:57] <SweetestSavage> Ah, okay.
[10:58] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: the directory that you are in right now
[10:58] <_jason> Agedec, add " multiverse" to the end of lines 18, 34, 35 (use the pastebin or enable numbering if you want)
[10:58] <SweetestSavage> Well, I'm on the network
[10:58] <cmatheson_> SweetestSavage: (probably your home directory... just wherever you launched smbclient from )
[10:58] <trappist> norki: you could always try fixing what's wrong
[10:58] <SweetestSavage> Ah, okay.
[10:58] <_jason> Agedec, add it to line 19 as well
[10:58] <norki> er i dunno how
[10:58] <lowman> for example if you started an ftp session in /home/username then your file would be in /home/username
[10:58] <norki> it won't boot into ubuntu
[10:58] <norki> stops at the logo
[10:58] <norki> cos.. i added xgamma at startup line 10
[10:59] <SweetestSavage> Ah, thanks very much lowman =)
[10:59] <lowman> yw Sweetest :D
[10:59] <SweetestSavage> You guys are so helpful, haha. It must become a pain after awhile to answer my newbish questions >_>
[10:59] <foxiness> norki: you can use rescue mode and than nano to file you change it again
[11:00] <norki> i dunno which file it is. i used the menu. preferences - startup
[11:00] <lowman> SweetestSavage: some of us just do it to test what we think we know LOL
[11:00] <trappist> SweetestSavage: some of us used to be newbies
[11:00] <topyli> SweetestSavage: there are 647 people on this helpdesk. they can handle a couple of easy questions
[11:00] <leonardo> Hello Word
[11:00] <SweetestSavage> Haha, true enough. One day I'll be able to help back =)
[11:00] <DewDude> can someone reccommend some packages to install for compiling apps
[11:00] <navyn> has anybody here tried opensuse?
[11:00] <trappist> DewDude: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:00] <DewDude> DANKE
[11:00] <navyn> DewDude, build-essential
[11:00] <DewDude> i couldn't remember exactly what it was
[11:00] <lowman> some code to contribute others help :P
[11:01] <foxiness> norki: startup i dont have this ?
[11:01] <norki> it's under services
[11:01] <norki> services -> startup i think
[11:01] <navyn> i'm thinking of leaving ubuntu and trying something different, like maybe opensuse
[11:01] <tyler> Question: how do i get all of my icons to show up on the desktop? Such as home, trash, etc..
[11:01] <lowman> I used to be a tier 2.5 rep for comcast...I loved that job :D
[11:01] <Agedec> ok done
[11:01] <dima_> can anybody help me with installing OREGANO on my computer????
[11:02] <techrush> dont put oregano in your computer!
[11:02] <cmatheson_> tyler: they don't show up automatically?
[11:02] <trappist> dima_: instead of asking somebody to volunteer to help with an open-ended project, try asking a specific question
[11:02] <_jason> Agedec, save the changes and exit.  Then 'sudo apt-get update'  <-- same as reload in synaptic.  And if you prefix your message with '_jason' it'll be easier for me to see
[11:02] <tyler> no.
[11:02] <lowman> you mean you should never put oregano in your computer? darn, I thought that was what you were supposed to do with oregano DOH! :P
[11:03] <bshumate> dima_: the schematic swoftware?
[11:03] <foxiness> norki: i can not understarnd what the change you do ,if you can give me more info
[11:03] <tyler> cmatheson_, got it
[11:03] <Agedec> _jason done
[11:03] <bshumate> heh swoftware...aweswome
[11:03] <_jason> Agedec, try to get mplayer now
[11:03] <dima_> Yea the schematic software
[11:04] <norki> foxiness: i'm doing this from memory, as i can't boot into ubuntu..   Preferences -> Services -> Startup files
[11:04] <norki> perhaps it wasn't called Services
[11:04] <tyler> Question: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper? on this tutorial, it says: #
[11:04] <tyler> Now you can set up your working Wlan device under Desktop->Administration->Networking
[11:04] <tyler> #
[11:04] <tyler>  .. how do i get there?
[11:04] <bshumate> dima_: it has simple install instructions....wassamatter?
[11:04] <_jason> tyler, probably system not desktop
[11:04] <norki> forums are down here..
[11:04] <Agedec> Hey its working
[11:05] <jenda> I put oregano in goulash
[11:05] <dima_> i'm new to ubuntu and linux i got it just a day ago i have no idea how to do anything
[11:05] <lowman> Mmmm is that hungarian goulash?
[11:05] <_jason> tyler,does that seem correct? system not desktop?
[11:05] <Agedec> '_jason' done
[11:05] <tyler> _jason, oh, got it, thanks
[11:05] <_jason> Agedec, you don't need the '' :)
[11:05] <norki> foxiness : found it? O.o
[11:06] <_jason> Agedec, np
[11:06] <Agedec> ...oh ok lol...im new to everything
[11:06] <Agedec> :) thanks a ton
[11:06] <_jason> tyler, okay, I'll update the wiki unless you wish to?
[11:06] <tyler> _jason, how do i do that??
[11:06] <Xenguy> dima_: shouldn't be too hard - it is packaged for ubuntu, yes?
[11:07] <conrad_> howdy, anyone tell me how i can convert mp3's into cd-format(meaning, how do i burn mp3's so i can play 'em in my cd-player as cd's)
[11:07] <lowman> tyler: click on edit
[11:07] <_jason> tyler, you click edit and make sure you have an account
[11:07] <lowman> play in the sandbox for a bit tho :P
[11:07] <_jason> tyler, i'll update it but you can try it out just so you know
[11:07] <Xenguy> conrad_: Not sure, but could try converting to
[11:07] <Xenguy> WAV
[11:07] <dima_> nope i downloaded it from their website
[11:07] <tyler> _jason, ok, cool, thanks
[11:07] <conrad_> Xenguy: and how? grip?
[11:07] <jenda> dima_: sorry, don't take it wrong. What is oregano - did you try "sudo apt-get oregano"?
[11:07] <Xenguy> dima_: forget that - it's packaged, just apt-get it
[11:08] <bshumate> dima_: there is an ubuntu package
[11:08] <trappist> or even sudo apt-get install oregano
[11:08] <_jason> tyler, done, does it make more sense this way?
[11:08] <jenda> dima_: Do "sudo apt-get install oregano"
[11:08] <dima_> really where can i find it???
[11:08] <bshumate> it is in universe though...
[11:08] <Xenguy> conrad_: dunno - try apt-cache search mp3 |grep -i wav
[11:08] <Agedec> _jason now, (sorry) how do i use mplayer to open a video file?
[11:08] <dima_> k i will try
[11:08] <sorush21> guys how do I calibrate my monitor in linux ubuntu breezy kde?
[11:08] <DarkMan> lo
[11:09] <lowman> whatis oregano ??
[11:09] <jenda> dima_: Do that in the terminal, that is
[11:09] <cmatheson_> Agedec: mplayer filename
[11:09] <dima_> k
[11:09] <chkMINUS> im thinking about buying a laptop, and installing ubuntu.  should i look out for anything specific?
[11:09] <lowman> if not a spice :/
[11:09] <_jason> Agedec, you should have mplayer in the 'sound and video' section of your app menu
[11:09] <DarkMan> anyone  can help me  with instalkling  a  lexmark printer ?
[11:09] <Xenguy> dima_: actually I am looking at debian - sec and I'll boot up Ubuntu
[11:09] <trappist> chkMINUS: works beautifully on my inspiron 600m
[11:09] <tyler> _jason, perfect now, thanks
[11:09] <_jason> ubotu, tell DarkMan about printing
[11:09] <jenda> DarkMan: try linuxprinting.org
[11:09] <Xenguy> dima_: but if Ubu has it, then sudo apt-get install oregano
[11:09] <dima_> wow
[11:10] <chkMINUS> trappist, nice :)
[11:10] <dima_> i think i worked
[11:10] <norki> chkMINUS: don't get one with a Realtek HD soundcard if u wanna use ubuntu
[11:10] <Agedec> oh lol
[11:10] <dima_> how do you know this stuff???
[11:10] <DarkMan> lo jenda , yesterday i ask the  same  as  lexmark , u remember?
[11:10] <djm62> chkMINUS: hp sell laptops with ubu
[11:10] <DarkMan> and  jason
[11:11] <DarkMan>  its  a  lexmark z55  ,  can't instal it  , no drivers  for it in ubuntu
[11:11] <lowman> dima_: some of us in here have done the grueling deed of RTFM :D
[11:11] <dima_> YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME
[11:11] <lowman> trust me that was a dry read indeed :P
[11:11] <SAM_theman> :D
[11:11] <SAM_theman> thank you
[11:12] <SAM_theman> i am the CEO of thiis channel *wink *wink
[11:12] <jenda> DarkMan: Of course I remeber...
[11:12] <DarkMan> still not find  out  how  to get it ,lol
[11:12] <lowman> hello CEO
[11:12] <SAM_theman> Yes
[11:12] <jenda> DarkMan: And neither have I :)
[11:12] <norki> o well i'll just have to format the harddrive from the ubuntu dvd then?
[11:13] <jenda> DarkMan: Not that I tried... I fought with my HPLJ 1020
[11:13] <SAM_theman> ask my any question and i've got the answer *wink *wink
[11:13] <l3m> i'm trying to compile a library on ubuntu and i get tons of weird errors somewhere in gcc/g++ or libstdc++ ... ( e.g. "new" not defined and stuff like that ). I installed gcc and g++ and libstdc++6-dev and i have no idea what could be the cause. the whole thing compiles fine on debian.......
[11:13] <lowman> what is the meaning of life SAM?
[11:13] <_jason> lowman, that's easy, 42
[11:13] <cmatheson_> l3m: install build-essential
[11:13] <SAM_theman> Well to live it out and enjoy it
[11:13] <l3m> cmatheson_: is installed
[11:14] <bshumate> lowman: 42...read the book, avoid the moive.
[11:14] <lowman> yes it is 42 but wasn't it the question they didn't know?
[11:14] <bshumate> movie
[11:14] <lowman> i read it years agooo
[11:14] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell lowman about life
[11:14] <cmatheson_> l3m: your makefile is bad or something  then
[11:14] <jomilo> hola
[11:14] <SAM_theman> :D
[11:14] <_jason> l3m, maybe you need to use gcc3.4?
[11:14] <l3m> cmatheson_: it's a big opensource project ( ogre3d.org ) and it compiles fine on debian.
[11:15] <lowman> thanks ubotu
[11:15] <SAM_theman> U see 've created this little bot called ubotu
[11:15] <l3m> _jason: i installed gcc3.4 but it doesn't help
[11:15] <lowman> i feel edumicated now..may I leave the temple?
[11:15] <norki> SAM_theman: know this? what should i do if i broke ubuntu and wanna reinstall it? cos i can't seem to install over my previous install
[11:15] <SAM_theman> Lol j/k
[11:15] <trappist> l3m: try to scroll to the beginning of the errors and find a reference to a missing .h file
[11:15] <bshumate> !beer
[11:15] <SAM_theman> well my friend wipe your harddrive
[11:15] <_jason> l3m, did you tell it to use 3.4?
[11:15] <SAM_theman> wipe it all
[11:15] <norki> doh
[11:16] <lowman> please may i have a beer?
[11:16] <XiCillin> yea
[11:16] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell lowman about beer
[11:16] <lowman> upload me a cold one
[11:16] <l3m> _jason: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 and i also tried replacing the symlinks in /usr/bin/
[11:16] <XiCillin> apt-get install beer
[11:16] <_jason> l3m, okay I have no idea then
[11:16] <trappist> l3m: try to scroll to the beginning of the errors and find a reference to a missing .h file
[11:16] <DarkMan> but  tnx  anyway  jenda,  i don't think there  is  a  good driver for it  at the moment
[11:16] <XiCillin> ./beer -oz 40
[11:16] <SAM_theman> lol
[11:16] <DarkMan>  maybe  i buy  a  other printer   hehehe
[11:16] <Agedec> _jason ...I know i have the directory right cause i drag and dropped the file in the konsole, but mplayer says its not there... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5968
[11:16] <lowman> ubotu tell SAM about his door prize
[11:17] <l3m> _jason: thanks.
[11:17] <lowman> figures
[11:17] <lowman> :P
[11:17] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell lowman about never do that again
[11:17] <l3m> trappist: it's not a missing header??? it says new and delete are not defined
[11:17] <trappist> l3m: I'm speculating that it probably is a missing header
[11:17] <SAM_theman> u forgot the " : "
[11:17] <lowman> ubotu is silent ...tgft
[11:17] <ubotu> lowman: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:17] <MaStErYuRi> hi all
[11:17] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell lowman about silent
[11:17] <_jason> Agedec, give it the full path
[11:17] <lowman> no much smaller
[11:18] <trappist> l3m: if you're missing a header it'll tell you and then spew so many errors you're lucky if you can scroll to the top
[11:18] <MaStErYuRi> do you know how can i install gdebi?
[11:18] <Agedec> _jason what do you mean>?
[11:18] <Xenguy> dima_: yeah, Ubu has it - any luck?
[11:18] <l3m> trappist: thanks. but it's not. i'm pretty experienced in developing software on linux, i've never gotten such a weird error... it doesn't mention any missing header, i checked that long before coming here...
[11:18] <Agedec> _jason i put  mplayer /home/brian/Desktop/WoW/WoW Movies/tychon-1131744940.wmv
[11:18] <tyler> Question: How do I access my touchpad driver properties?
[11:19] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell lowman about WoW
[11:19] <conrad_> can k3b convert mp3 into .wav or any cd-format? anyone, please?
[11:19] <SAM_theman> dammit i created u
[11:19] <_jason> Agedec, put that thing in single quotes or else the space will mess things up.  Alternatively change the space to '\ ' without the quotes
[11:19] <cmatheson_> tyler: that's cute how you prepend your question w/ "Question: "
[11:19] <SAM_theman> brb
[11:19] <tyler> cmatheson_, yeah its easier for people to notice
[11:20] <Hal9000> i'm trying to do make xconfig, but get this error:  Unable to find the QT installation. - what package do i need to install?
[11:20] <_jason> Agedec, also, if you want to use the gui the command is gmplayer
[11:20] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: libqt??-dev
[11:21] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: thats what i thought too, but doesnt work anyways
[11:21] <jenda> DarkMan: Which model is it?
[11:21] <DarkMan> z55
[11:21] <trappist> l3m: ah, I didn't realize you'd written this.  try 'sudo apt-get install build-essential' to be sure you've got all the standard libraries and headers
[11:21] <trappist> and linkers etc.
[11:21] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: hmm, maybe you should stick w/ make menuconfig
[11:21] <l3m> trappist: i did. i used to develop on debian, all the "standard" solves didn't help..
[11:21] <DarkMan> i tried  to do  the instruction on lexmark page  , but that  diden't work
[11:22] <dima_> thanks i got it installed
[11:23] <Agedec> _jason http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5969
[11:23] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: needless to say, the kernel failed to compile after half an hour of work hehe... so im gonna configure now :P menuconfig is fine
[11:23] <DarkMan> can't get the driver in the list  with printers
[11:23] <ko> hi!
[11:23] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: good luck... are you using the stock config that came from the debian package or did you make your own?
[11:23] <_jason> Agedec, /home/brian/Desktop/WoW/WoWMovies/tychon-1131744940.wmv you probably still need the space, don't remove it.  Spaces are ok if you enclose the path in quotes like that
[11:23] <DarkMan> and  if i look  in hardware info  it  finds  a  usb  lexmark z55 printer
[11:24] <ko> i can't play some mp3 with rythmbox
[11:24] <epronk> After logging in it takes forever before the gnome desktop appears. Also when i shutdown it takes a lot of time before the dialog shows up. Any clues?
[11:24] <ko> i have installed the codecs
[11:24] <ko> gstreamer
[11:24] <Agedec> _jason I'm up and running, thank you so much :)
[11:24] <_jason> Agedec, np
[11:24] <ko> i need help
[11:24] <_jason> ko, do other mp3's play?
[11:25] <benplaut> anyone know how to apply a patch to the xserver?
[11:25] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: i used the stock config from the badger image package, now im using that as a basis... just disabling all drivers and things i dont need
[11:25] <ko> yes _jason
[11:25] <lowman> try this instead /home/lowmansmachine/dirty/nasty/movies/your/momma/would/flip/about/nasty.wmv :P
[11:26] <ko> i can play other mp3s
[11:26] <jenda> DarkMan: Hmm... linuxprinting.org has failed me again. They are beginning to be outdated... I don't know where else to ask
[11:26] <_jason> ko, are you sure that the mp3 is ok?
[11:26] <ko> yes becouse i have played it in suse
[11:26] <DarkMan>  me  neither ,  but i still hopes  that someone  has  a  lexmark z55 printer  installed  and  can tell me  how  to do it
[11:26] <_jason> ko, have you tried other players
[11:27] <ko> _jason, no i haven't
[11:27] <cmatheson_> Hal9000: ok... that's strange that it didn't compile though... you're using the same version of kernel sources as the config-file right?
[11:27] <ko> i'll try with xmms
[11:27] <lowman> ko: video mp3 or audio?
[11:27] <ko> lowman, audio mp3
[11:27] <ko> i have tryed with rythmbox and totem
[11:27] <lowman> try mpg123 <--works fer me
[11:27] <VooDoo> http://www.linux-land.co.uk
[11:27] <ko> but i'll install xmms
[11:27] <ko> xmms is for kde?
[11:28] <ko> is xmms available for gnome?
[11:28] <lowman> do you need a gui ko?
[11:28] <Determinist> ko, it's an application, it runs on kde and on gnome
[11:28] <trappist> xmms is desktop-independent
[11:28] <ko> ok Determinist
[11:29] <norki> how can i launch an mp3 from the file explorer? to make it open in xmms
[11:29] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: i just went to packages.ubuntu.com and looked for 2.6.15 sources for badger and the 2.6.15 image for my architecture to get the config file from
[11:29] <Hal9000> cmatheson_: it stopped here: make[5] : *** [drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zddevlist.h]  Error 1
[11:30] <lowman> female dachshund puppy..what should we name her?
[11:30] <coNP> lowman, ubuntu?
[11:30] <coNP> lowman: maybe "ubunta" that sounds more appropriate for a female
[11:30] <Ng> bunty ;)
[11:31] <SAM_theman> how d o you find out what version of KDE your using
[11:31] <lowman> keep'em comin
[11:33] <epronk> anyone here suffering a slow starting gnome?
[11:33] <lowman> i'm gonna post a pick of this lil puppy brb
[11:33] <Charles> Hi, how we compile a program that use GTK librairies ?
[11:34] <topyli> epronk: everybody suffers from that
[11:34] <ipower> hey
[11:34] <ipower> do u know when did ubuntu started?
[11:34] <_jason> Charles, look for a package that starts with libgtk and end with -dev
[11:34] <topyli> Charles: install gtk development libs, compile away
[11:35] <thegladiator> how i append the path variable ?
[11:35] <epronk> topyli: I mean slow like - minutes?
[11:35] <thegladiator> thegladiator@thegladiator:~$ PATH= $PATH:/home/thegladiator
[11:35] <thegladiator> bash: /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/home/thegladiator: No such file or directory
[11:35] <topyli> epronk: oh, that's a bit too much
[11:36] <Charles> I download all the librairie and when I try to compile, it put me a error : dont find include gtk/gtk.h
[11:36] <epronk> today I reboot, and after logging in, it takes minutes before the desktop shows up
[11:36] <concept10> I need help!  I installed kubuntu on top on the usual breezy and didnt like it much.  For some reason I cant change my theme controls in gnome anymore, something has taken this over.  Anyone have any knowledge of this?
[11:36] <epronk> gconfd is suspected.
[11:37] <ubuntu> there are someone from Colombia?
[11:37] <topyli> Charles: don't download gtk, just apt-get the gtk dev packages and try then
[11:37] <topyli> Charles: what are you compiling anyway?
[11:37] <Charles> a program that use gtk librairie
[11:38] <conrad_> is centOS a good os?
[11:38] <topyli> Charles: ok then, it's a secret. and there are no ubuntu packages?
[11:39] <_jason> thegladiator, are you looking to make that a permanent addition to your path?
[11:39] <Absenth> roughly, what's the timeline for Drake?
[11:39] <topyli> conrad_: might be a good server if you're fond of red hat
[11:39] <thegladiator> yes
[11:39] <fluvvell> have a little problem with a mount of a usb stick.  Say root priveliges needed to delete things...
[11:40] <Charles> I write this to compile :  gcc -o Project Project.c
[11:40] <SAM_theman> http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/31071-1.jpg
[11:40] <thegladiator> i found the error , PATH= $PATH had a space in it
[11:40] <topyli> epronk: what if you make a new user and log in as that one, will the desktop work ok?
[11:40] <_jason> thegladiator, read the comments in ~/.bash_profile
[11:40] <SAM_theman> my kde will like that
[11:40] <thegladiator> thank you yep
[11:40] <SAM_theman> *WIll
[11:40] <fluvvell> does anyone recognise root/usb stick privelege problems?
[11:40] <epronk> topyli: good suggestion
[11:40] <SAM_theman> how d o you find out what version of KDE your using
[11:40] <epronk> topyli: i'm gonna try that now
[11:41] <topyli> Charles: no makefile? did you write the program just now?
[11:41] <thegladiator> you can see that in synaptic , ur kde version and stuff
[11:41] <phasegen> fluwell:  I have that problem, but it let's me cut and paste...
[11:41] <fluvvell> phasegen, thanks
[11:41] <Charles> It is just a simple program for me to see how work the gtk librairie
[11:41] <Travis_> hi guys, I need help with another shell script, I am trying to create a shell script that will ask for a user name and a password and then it will try to authenticate to ssh server specifed in the script? I don't know howto do this, since ssh asks for a password and you can't specify it in the command? any ideas, PM ME
[11:42] <fluvvell> so you haven't solved it?
[11:42] <_jason> thegladiator, if you decide to enable ~/bin, you'll need to source the profile again: source ~/.bash_profile
[11:42] <fluvvell> i can mount it as root, but need my users to be able to mount it too.
[11:42] <logolept> hallo?
[11:42] <Estel|uk> :)
[11:42] <trappist> Travis_: why not just let the ssh server prompt for the password
[11:42] <DarkMan> lo
[11:42] <thegladiator> ok i will
[11:43] <thegladiator> ty
[11:43] <karlan_> whats the name of the wellused dc++hub software named something like "yoshi" ?
[11:43] <phasegen> fluwell: I'm still trying to figure out where all the repositories are...   Give me a couple of years to learn the rest, and I'll get back to ya on it...
[11:43] <phasegen> :)
[11:43] <Travis_> trappist not the point of the script I am writing
[11:44] <Dattas> Is telnet were i can remotly uset a terminal?
[11:44] <topyli> Charles: ok, i haven't built such things, just distributed stuff with makefiles and all. just make sure you have the libs (from ubuntu, don't build random libs from the web)
[11:44] <bshumate> Dattas: nein!
[11:44] <bshumate> Dattas: telnet is to be avoid!
[11:44] <yatesy> Travis_: so what is the point? apart from a keylogger
[11:44] <bshumate> Dattas: use ssh!
[11:44] <Dattas> how?
[11:44] <dooglus> Travis_: you can use your private key instead of a password - that saves a lot of messing about with password prompts
[11:44] <bshumate> !ssh
[11:44] <ubotu> methinks ssh is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SSHHowto
[11:44] <trappist> Travis_: you'd probably have to make it an expect script
[11:44] <bshumate> Dattas: that's how
[11:44] <jgrieves_away> how can i bring up a gdm in an xnest
[11:45] <Travis_> dooglus but lots of users would be logging in
[11:45] <jgrieves_away> i thought there was an option in system toosl
[11:45] <trappist> Travis_: or if it's for your own use, forget about passwords and use keys
[11:45] <Travis_> so that wouldn't work
[11:45] <Travis_> keys won't work
[11:45] <cafuego> jgrieves_away: Xnest --query <host.ip> :1
[11:45] <cafuego> maybe '-query' instead of '--query'
[11:45] <Travis_> so theres not like a modified version of the ssh client that lets me specifiy it in the command like user:password@host
[11:45] <dooglus> Travis_: so what's the point of the exercise?  you want to prompt for a password and pass it on to ssh?  why not just let ssh prompt for a password instead?
[11:45] <yatesy> its called security :P
[11:45] <jgrieves_away> cafuego isn't there a menu item, "New nested login window"
[11:46] <Travis_> dooglus I am using a gui interface todo it
[11:46] <bshumate> Travis_: that is what keys are for...
[11:46] <dooglus> Travis_: if you specify the password on the command line, everyone on the system can see the password when they run "ps"
[11:46] <yatesy> correct
[11:46] <Travis_> dooglus thats fine with me
[11:46] <trappist> Travis_: there's a modified version of ssh called 'telnet' that's not terribly picky about password security
[11:46] <yatesy> rofl =)
[11:46] <Travis_> since no one is gonna actually be logged into the machine
[11:46] <yatesy> so WHY BOTHER?
[11:46] <cafuego> jgrieves_away: Not on my machine
[11:46] <Decarabia> hio
[11:47] <dooglus> Travis_: if you don't mind everyone seeing the password, you may as well not use passwords.  leave all the passwords empty - then you won't need to propmt for them.
[11:47] <Mulder> how do you run that network autoconfig script that ubuntu runs during the installation process?
[11:47] <Decarabia> does somebody know some good extrarepositories ?
[11:47] <bshumate> Travis_: iffn you don't care about security, use passwordless accounts with ssh... then again what is the point?
[11:47] <Mulder> and does ubuntu use debian's auto-detect hardware script to see what modules to load?
[11:47] <Travis_> no they need to be passworded
[11:47] <Travis_> but the actuall accounts are set to goto /bin/false or whatever
[11:47] <dooglus> Travis_: with insecure passwords?  why?
[11:47] <yatesy> Travis_: just explain more for gods sake
[11:47] <Travis_> so no one is actually logged into the computer
[11:47] <Travis_> ok
[11:47] <chaz_> hi
[11:48] <Decarabia> does somebody know some good extrarepositories ?
[11:48] <yatesy> Decarabia: google does
[11:48] <_jason> ubotu, tell Decarabia about easysource
[11:48] <Decarabia> i dont find
[11:48] <Decarabia> easysource ?
[11:48] <Dattas> how do i remote a ssh with windows?
[11:48] <_jason> Decarabia, ubotu sent you a message
[11:48] <cdubya> putty
[11:48] <_jason> Dattas, google for the putty client
[11:49] <MoonRanger> ubotu, tell MoonRanger about easysource
[11:49] <lucasvo> Dattas: why would you need extrarepositories?
[11:49] <cdubya> Dattas, should be able to use putty
[11:49] <chaz_> lol - also been trying to get vnc / putty working
[11:49] <dallows> hm.. What is kacpid plz ?
[11:49] <chaz_> been intersting
[11:49] <Travis_> basically, I am setting up a Mac OS X computer for a school the school uses SSH with pGina for auth on the windows boxes, so I need a away to make a shell script to authenticate to  the server with the users on, with a gui interface, if the authentication is a success it continues on to the OS X login
[11:49] <lucasvo> Dattas: I mean it for Decarabia
[11:49] <Decarabia> well i try right now :D
[11:50] <trappist> that is an insane authentication setup
[11:50] <yatesy> yup
[11:50] <dallows> >>> How Can I boot kernel without acpi support ?? <<<
[11:50] <gtk2> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:6317/ <- can someone test and see if this works?
[11:50] <yatesy> they should get into LDAP if they want to have multiple OS's
[11:50] <gtk2> as in the site, not the link.
[11:51] <trappist> Travis_: use a language like perl with a Net::SSH module
[11:51] <_jason> gtk2, times out
[11:51] <chaz_> gtk2: nothig
[11:51] <gtk2> wtf :(
[11:51] <Travis_> tried LDAP SSH works much better
[11:51] <cdubya> gt2, same here
[11:51] <Travis_> hmmm
[11:51] <trappist> works much better?  I don't even want to know.
[11:51] <Travis_> so theres no way to send text to program thats running in terminal
[11:51] <bshumate> ldap vs. ssh?  now there's an interesting comparison!
[11:51] <cmatheson_> Travis_: write
[11:51] <trappist> Travis_: if you wrote an expect script - again, perl
[11:51] <dooglus> Travis_: look at "expect"
[11:51] <dallows> hmm
[11:52] <Travis_> because I can get it to please enter user@ip;s password:
[11:52] <dallows> _jason: How can I boot kernel without acpi support ?? You know ?
[11:52] <_jason> dallows, nope
[11:52] <cmatheson_> dallows: put 'noacpi' after the kernel boot-line
[11:53] <dallows> cmatheson_: Ill try..
[11:53] <Decarabia> ok it works
[11:53] <Decarabia> great
[11:53] <Decarabia> thx
[11:53] <Decarabia> but does somebody know how to work with apache
[11:53] <Decarabia> ?
[11:54] <bshumate> Decarabia: ask your specific question...maybe someone here can answer it
[11:54] <Agedec> How do you hide/unhide the top and bottom bar fully?
[11:54] <cdubya> dallows, there's some talk about disabling it here.... http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_on_a_Thinkpad_X31
[11:55] <Decarabia> well i try to make my php-scripts work local
[11:55] <Decarabia> but how ?
[11:55] <cdubya> dallows, looks like it's acpi=off
[11:55] <jenda_zZz> hey... all you oregano fans, there is a ##cooking channel :)
[11:56] <Travis_> heres my shell script
[11:56] <Travis_> http://pastebin.com/472380
[11:56] <Travis_> any ideas
[11:56] <Travis_> on making it work
[11:57] <libra> hello
[11:57] <bshumate> Decarabia: not sure what you mean there buddy.  Make them run local?  as in on a locally hosted instance of apache?
[11:57] <Decarabia> i try to make my php-scripts work local
[11:57] <Chompitiarve> Hello
[11:57] <libra> what is
[11:57] <libra>
[11:57] <Agedec> Is there a hotkey to hide/uhide the top and bottom Panels?
[11:57] <gtk2> y'know whats strange? if i visit http://<IP_ADDRESS>:6317/ i can see it, but noone else that http://<IP_ADDRESS>:6317/ can get it to resolve...
[11:57] <steele> I need JRE SDK to get Eclipse fully run, but how can I get "libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3"? What package do I need to install, if you could help, it would be fine ;-)
[11:57] <libra> yes i know
[11:57] <Decarabia> bshumate no i try to test my scripts on my pc. how to handle this with apache ?
[11:57] <djk_> libra: a french letter?
[11:58] <bshumate> Travis_: ye cannot do that with bash alone...you need expect, as previously suggested
[11:58] <yatesy> Travis_: so you wanna make a GUI that loads before the osx login gui, that authenticates users on a windows system. and if successful then allow them access to the osx gui to login again?
[11:58] <libra> what
[11:58] <erUSUL> !java
[11:58] <libra> djk what
[11:58] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:58] <Travis_> yatesy  yes
[11:58] <Travis_> only it authenticates to users on a linux system
[11:58] <libra> helloooooooooo
[11:58] <djk_> libra: you asked what is  ..
[11:58] <steele> thx
[11:59] <yatesy> but you'll have to distribute a username + password for the osx system anyway, so i don't see the point in authenticating different details twice
[11:59] <libra> sorry djk
[11:59] <Travis_> yatesy centralized login
[11:59] <Travis_> and mounting the samba shares
[11:59] <libra> what said djk
[12:00] <bshumate> Decarabia: install apache with php support:  sudo apt-get install php4


[04:30] <jrwren> sadly, it was thunderbird which triggered that rant :(
[04:49] <Scary_Guy> windownes 10 is horrible, however you should look up classic startmenu and especially bblean
[04:49] <Scary_Guy> although I'm not even sure if bblean will still work
[19:05] <waldo323> start10 from stardock (from plymouth, mi) is also a nice alternative start menu
[19:05] <waldo323> ...I should look at time stamps
[20:25] <brousch> My sister works at stardock
[23:01] <waldo323> sweet!   when I was looking for a new position it didn't look like they had need for a linux guy


[12:36] <crispinf> Keybuk: ping ?
[12:42] <Keybuk> hello
[12:42] <crispinf> Keybuk: so I re-booted today, and ran the UDEVD_LOG=info thing, and did the echo > /sys/class/scsi_device/0:0:0:0/device/uevent again
[12:43] <Keybuk> right
[12:43] <crispinf> basically, that did nothing - I have 4 lines from udevd and udevd-event
[12:43] <crispinf> however ...
[12:43] <crispinf> echo > /sys/class/scsi_device/0:0:0:0/uevent did the magic
[12:43] <crispinf> I got spammed by lots of stuff, including the modprobe lines for inserting sd_mod
[12:44] <Keybuk> ok ...
[12:44] <crispinf> so for whatever reason the .../device/uevent isn't working
[12:44] <Keybuk> did you get a UEVENT for when you touched the /evice/uevent ?
[12:45] <Keybuk> if so, that's working "as expected"
[12:45] <Keybuk> I don't know why the scsi_device/*/*uevent wasn't tickled though ... it should be
[12:45] <Keybuk> unless for some reason the driver was initialised before udevd was started, but unless you've compiled it in, that shouldn't happen
[12:46] <crispinf> the bottom 4 lines of text were printed for the /devive/uevent : http://patches.theflowerdays.com/udev_debug.txt
[12:46] <crispinf> I'm just using the stock ubuntu kernel, haven't compiled anything in anywhere ...
[12:49] <Keybuk> ok, that's kinda kooky
[12:51] <Keybuk> edit /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/usplash
[12:51] <Keybuk> and add "copy_exec /usr/sbin/udevmonitor /sbin" below the others
[12:51] <Keybuk> then update-initramfs -u
[12:53] <Keybuk> and reboot, putting break=premount onto the kernel command-line (taking out quiet and splash)
[12:54] <Keybuk> then do "ls /sys/class/scsi_device" and "/sys/bus/scsi" for me
[01:01] <crispinf> right, I'll do that next time I reboot (will try to find time this evening)
[01:02] <crispinf> we will get there eventually hopefully :-)
[01:03] <Keybuk> ok
[01:03] <Keybuk> in theory the action of loading the scsi module should have caused the scsi_device thing to be created, thus loading sd_mod
[01:04] <Keybuk> I don't know why that's not happening for you
[01:57] <crispinf> right - I'm rebooting to see what is happening
[02:00] <crispinf> Keybuk: in /sys/class/scsi_device I have 0:0:0:0, /sys/bus/scsi/devices/0:0:0:0 is there too
[02:01] <Keybuk> ok...
[02:01] <Keybuk> lsmod
[02:01] <Keybuk> uh
[02:01] <Keybuk> sorry
[02:01] <Keybuk> cat /proc/modules
[02:01] <Keybuk> :p
[02:01] <crispinf> lsmod not found - cat /proc/modules gives scsi_mod, libata and sata_via
[02:01] <Keybuk> you did break=premount, rather than waiting for panic?
[02:01] <crispinf> yep
[02:02] <crispinf> cat /proc/cmdline = "root=/dev/sda1 ro break=premount"
[02:02] <crispinf> I have on udev running
[02:02] <Keybuk> cat conf/modules
[02:02] <crispinf> sata_via, capability vesafb, fbcon, unix
[02:02] <Keybuk> who put sata_via in there? :p
[02:02] <Keybuk> in fact, who put ANYTHING in there? :p
[02:02] <crispinf> is that just a copy of /etc/modules ?
[02:03] <Keybuk> no
[02:03] <Keybuk> /etc/mkinitramfs/modules
[02:03] <crispinf> hmm
[02:03] <crispinf> let me boot and see ...
[02:04] <Keybuk> before you do
[02:04] <Keybuk> try this for me
[02:04] <Keybuk> udevd --daemon
[02:04] <Keybuk> udevplug -Bscsi -Cscsi_device
[02:04] <crispinf> argh - hang on a sec ...
[02:06] <crispinf> that seems to have inserted sd_mod
[02:06] <Keybuk> good-o
[02:07] <crispinf> anything else you want me to try without before I finish booting ?
[02:07] <Keybuk> nope
[02:08] <Keybuk> install udev_079-0ubuntu15 when it appears in the archive
[02:10] <crispinf> thanks
[02:11] <crispinf> I probably  added sata_via to the /etc/mkinitramfs/modules when it failed to boot correctly last time
[02:11] <Keybuk> ;)
[02:11] <Keybuk> was a good test, that same bug would've bitten people who compiled their own
[02:13] <crispinf> I'll test out the new udev and let you know how it goes, thanks again


[04:55] <vorlon> jbicha: ironically, glib2.0 does have translations
[09:29] <LocutusOfBorg> glib2.0 is xterm blocked
[09:42] <handsome_feng> Hi, does anyone know why unity-greeter is blacklisted in the Ubuntu Kylin seeds but still appears in the germinate outputs? I know lightdm pulls in it and have no idea why blacklist not work.
[12:17] <jbicha> handsome_feng: I don't think it matters. unity-greeter is not in the ISO manifest (it is not included in your image)
[12:17] <jbicha> blacklist isn't very helpful. lightdm Recommends: unity-greeter | lightdm-greeter | lightdm-kde-greeter   (ukui-greeter Provides: lightdm-greeter)
[12:37] <handsome_feng> jbicha: Okay, I'll ignore that. :)
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[13:58] <LocutusOfBorg>   * Stop building the python3-distutils package.
[13:58] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, ?? should i drop it for nodejs?
[14:04] <tumbleweed> LocutusOfBorg: python3.12 doesn't include the distutils module
[14:04] <tumbleweed> so anything that depends on distutils needs to change (it probably moved to setuptools)
[14:05] <LocutusOfBorg> sorry tumbleweed, thanks!
[14:05] <LocutusOfBorg> I did cherry-pick python3.12 distutils removal fixes one month ago
[14:05] <LocutusOfBorg> and of course now I have to drop the B-D
[14:05] <LocutusOfBorg> wilco
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[20:02] <ricotz> jbicha, hi, i will push the gnome-keyring 3.7.5 stack
[20:05] <ricotz> (if ppa uploading works out, seems to be kind of broken sometimes today)
[20:09] <jbicha> ricotz: cool, btw I think we need to remerge gnome-keyring with the version in the PPA
[20:09] <ricotz> jbicha, already did
[20:10] <ricotz> made an ~raring2 earlier
[20:10] <ricotz> gcr is a pita
[20:10] <jbicha> I ppa-purged the staging PPA and when I tried readding it, I got
[20:10] <jbicha> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gnome-keyring_3.7.2-0ubuntu1~raring1_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/etc/pkcs11/modules/gnome-keyring.module', which is also in package libp11-kit-gnome-keyring:amd64 3.6.2-0ubuntu2
[20:10] <ricotz> i know i was told twice today ;)
[20:11] <jbicha> oh I see, thanks :)
[20:11] <ricotz> don't you dare to run away from staging ;P
[20:11] <jbicha> I was testing GTK 3.8/Nautilus 3.8 on raring
[20:12] <ricotz> oh, really
[20:12] <ricotz> nautilus 3.8?
[20:12] <ricotz> doesnt sound like something for raring
[20:13] <jbicha> everything works except for the gnome-shell search provider which unfortunately looks a bit difficult, bug 1130746
[20:14] <ricotz> jbicha, i see, but should this be really considered?
[20:17] <jbicha> personally I think it's worth it as the bugfixes are nice to have
[20:18] <ricotz> ok, feature-wise too
[20:18] <jbicha> but that one known regression (gnome-shell search) is enough to block it too
[20:19] <ricotz> i guess not from the ubuntu pov ;) if you insist to get it in before freeze and fix it afterwards
[20:20] <jbicha> I don't know if I can fix it, the search provider api is not documented & there's been quite a bit of refactoring
[20:21] <ricotz> i see
[20:21] <ricotz> jbicha, btw is zeitgeist a core application/library in regards of the unity desktop?
[20:22] <jbicha> yes
[20:22] <ricotz> ok
[20:23] <jbicha> Unity's Privacy Settings panel is mostly a front-end to tweak zeitgeist
[20:24] <ricotz> alright, good to know
[20:41] <jbicha> darkxst: hey they released gnome-shell <IP_ADDRESS> after all
[20:43] <darkxst> jbicha, right
[20:44] <darkxst> after they said they wouldn't!
[20:44] <darkxst> anyway will update


[19:06] <daftykins> loooooool - user needs ejecting for repeatedly asking about an inappropriate topic
[19:06] <k1l_> #ubuntu ?
[19:07] <daftykins> yep
[19:08] <k1l_> ah he changed names before. i will have an eye on it. thanks daftykins
[19:09] <daftykins> heh now the topic has changed to win7, trolltastic :)
[19:09] <daftykins> no problemo \o
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