[06:20] <ubotu> parigigi: If you are receiving an error similar to this: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168 then please visit this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[06:20] <_kuja_> rizwaan: try sudo apt-get --reinstall install kcontrol
[06:21] <rizwaan> ok
[06:22] <rizwaan> kuja, thanks, fixed..
[06:22] <rizwaan> i reinstalled kcontrol and kicker
[06:22] <_kuja_> You're welcome
[06:23] <_kuja_> kcm_kicker.la is provided by kcontrol ....... to figure out what package a file is a part of do this: dpkg -S filename (optionally you can include the entire path of the filename)
[06:23] <parigigi> ubotu: I've already tried to comment out those sections, but server X doesn't start...
[06:23] <_kuja_> (or only a portion of the filename)
[06:23] <_kuja_> after commenting out those three sections, there are 3 more lines you have to comment out
[06:23] <Schuenemann> I get those errors too
[06:23] <rizwaan> wow, thanks for dpkg -S
[06:24] <Imrahil> anyone know what happened to the katapult website at thekatapult.net? it should have moved from thekatapult.org.uk
[06:24] <hudsy> how to install msn in kubuntu???????
[06:24] <Schuenemann> http://amsn.sourceforge.net is an option
[06:24] <_kuja_> apt-get install amsn?
[06:24] <rizwaan> apt-get install amsn
[06:24] <rizwaan> yes
[06:24] <hudsy> i cant do it
[06:24] <Imrahil> kmess
[06:25] <rizwaan> sudo apt-get install amsn
[06:25] <_kuja_> Kopete works well too
[06:25] <hudsy> i cant do it
[06:25] <Schuenemann> kopete sucks :)
[06:25] <Realistic_Dragon> gaim is also nice
[06:25] <hudsy> it says theres no amsn
[06:25] <hudsy> ok
[06:25] <hudsy> thenks
[06:25] <Realistic_Dragon> gaim and kopete share the same IM libraries i think
[06:25] <Imrahil> hudsy: try also, sudo apt-get install kmess
[06:25] <Schuenemann> you need to add repositories
[06:25] <ForgeAus> kopete is good but the yahoo in it needs to have multiple yahoo idents! lol
[06:25] <_kuja_> !universe | hudsy
[06:25] <ubotu> hudsy: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:25] <_kuja_> amsn is in universe
[06:26] <Schuenemann> since I stopped using ICQ, I use amsn now
[06:26] <rizwaan> kuja i can't remove kdegames..
[06:26] <rizwaan> it is also removing whole kde
[06:26] <_kuja_> perhaps you installed kdegames with aptitude, and when you did it pulled in kde?
[06:26] <ForgeAus> universe?
[06:27] <rizwaan> i did "apt-get install kde"
[06:27] <rizwaan> now i want to remove noatun and kdegames
[06:27] <_kuja_> kdegames is just a metapackage anyway, removing it won't remove anything
[06:28] <_kuja_> if you really want to remove it, do dpkg -r kdegames, but keep in mind it won't free up any space, or unclutter your menus either.
[06:28] <summerizcrazy> Hello everyone! Is there a place where I can check whether my hardware is supported "from the box" by kubuntu 6.10 ?
[06:28] <rizwaan> oh..
[06:29] <_kuja_> summerizcrazy, there might be, but if so I don't know where. What hardware do you have?
[06:29] <jackster> Why would it be that I can burn CDs using my Liteon CD/DVD RW drive, but I can't read them?
[06:29] <_kuja_> jackster, odd, do other computers read t he disks without problem?
[06:29] <pichalsi> hi
[06:29] <rizwaan> kuja, please try "dpkg -r --simulate kdegames kde-amusements"
[06:30] <jackster> _kuja_: I'll go check that now
[06:30] <Schuenemann> Hawkwind: how can I ensure what to comment?
[06:30] <rizwaan> i can't remove them..
[06:30] <pichalsi> can someone help me how to upgrade all packages except glib?
[06:30] <_kuja_> But I don't want to remove kdegames ...
[06:30] <pichalsi> or generally dont upgrade one of the packages?
[06:30] <rizwaan> observe the "--simulate"
[06:30] <_kuja_> oh, I get it
[06:30] <Schuenemann> summerizcrazy: why don't you use the livecd to check?
[06:30] <jackster> _kuja_: it reads fine in my other DVD drive on the same bozx
[06:30] <summerizcrazy> a HP Pavilion dv5140eu laptop - AND Turion 64, ATI XPRESS 200, boradcom wifi
[06:31] <jackster> it burns fine using one drive, but it doesnt read in that drive, but it reads fine in the other drive
[06:31] <_kuja_> jackster: weird, it's probably a problem with the drive.
[06:31] <jackster> (no CDs or DVDs seem to be readable on the burner, but it works fine in Windows)
[06:31] <Sanne> summerizcrazy: I'll get you a few links I used when I built my system this summer, hold on.
[06:31] <summerizcrazy> I was told that there are some issues regarding the broadcom support and the openGL for this card
[06:31] <_kuja_> I've got 3 or 4 different burners, plus 2 or 3 different readers, and each one behaves a bit different, some will read some disks and some won't. It's really weird when a drive can't read the disk it itself burned though.
[06:31] <Sanne> summerizcrazy: here are three for a start: http://www.linux-drivers.org/ http://www.leenooks.com/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:32] <_kuja_> summeriscrazy: wifi is crazy stuff, take a look at:
[06:32] <_kuja_> !wifi
[06:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:32] <_kuja_> ATI cards are notoriously horrible when it comes to linux support
[06:32] <summerizcrazy> Thank You very much :) !
[06:33] <Realistic_Dragon> the ATI card in my powerbook wasnt too bad _kuja_... surprised me, especially on a PPC machine :P
[06:33] <_kuja_> You would have been much better off with an nvidia card, or maybe even an intel
[06:33] <summerizcrazy> yes i was unable to get it running with kubuntu 6.06 .. the opengl i mean
[06:33] <_kuja_> Realistic_Dragon, some cards are better supported than others, which makes ATIs situation even more of a mess.
[06:33] <Realistic_Dragon> thats definatly true
[06:34] <Realistic_Dragon> i got lucky and the OSS drivers work or id be out of luck
[06:34] <Realistic_Dragon> shame as i want a new macbook but those have newer ATI cards in and im not sure if itll work :(
[06:34] <_kuja_> Realistic_Dragon: I'd check with some other guinnea ... erm, person, before spending your money.
[06:35] <Realistic_Dragon> heh
[06:35] <Realistic_Dragon> im no fan of OS X at all, it wasnt a good linux replacement when i got my powerbook and in the meantime its been left well behind on the usability front :/
[06:35] <Realistic_Dragon> so im not buying one until i check all the hardware out :)
[06:36] <_kuja_> I wish I had the money to get myself a lappy....... but alas, I've dumped all my money into this desktop :D
[06:36] <Realistic_Dragon> most laptops are a pain in the backside
[06:37] <Realistic_Dragon> right now the only ones id consider are a new macbook pro on the high end or a cheap $600 hp on the low end
[06:37] <lm_> hey can anyone tell me why the update funkction for firefox is greyed out in ubuntu/kubuntu?
[06:37] <_kuja_> I've guaged that much. The biggest thing I'm worried about would most definitely be wireless. Wireless driver problems seem to be abound.
[06:37] <Realistic_Dragon> those HPs are really solidly built, only issue is the 124*768 resolution
[06:37] <lm_> the bugfix for the password f***up is out, and the update manager doesnt have it
[06:38] <Realistic_Dragon> _kuja_: broadcom cards now arent quite as sucky as they used to be, theres a howto on my website :o works with wpa and suspends properly too
[06:38] <Realistic_Dragon> both the HPs and the macs use broadcom chipsets
[06:38] <_kuja_> Oh well, doesn't much matter, I'm financed to my limit and I've no money to get myself a laptop with :(
[06:38] <mjugendrat> hallo
[06:38] <_kuja_> hello
[06:39] <mjugendrat> deutsch ?
[06:39] <Dr_willis> lm_,  i would guess -  that you should use the apt-get/apt/adept system to update firefox. since its a system wide installed program. not on a per user basis
[06:39] <_kuja_> !de
[06:39] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:39] <lm_> Dr_willis: i just ran it and as far as i know my system is completely updated
[06:39] <mjugendrat> danke
[06:40] <lm_> Dr_willis: how far behind are the repositories?
[06:40] <lm_> in terms of update?
[06:40] <doudoo> hello all
[06:40] <_kuja_> hello
[06:40] <doudoo> need some help please
[06:41] <doudoo> i wanted ton install gpar2 yesterday...
[06:41] <Dr_willis> lm_,  if theres not some security related update..  the packages dont normally get updates.
[06:41] <doudoo> i tryed to do it with adept
[06:41] <_kuja_> The repos are frozen as of october, nothing but the occasional security fix will trickle in, maybe some updates depending on what the updates are.
[06:42] <parigigi> _kuja_ : I found the other three lines :-) Now I restart the machine and try...
[06:42] <Realistic_Dragon> unless you have backports enabled of course
[06:42] <mauro__> _kuja_: do you know why theya re frozen ?
[06:42] <doudoo> but now everey update crash..
[06:42] <Dr_willis> they are frozen because thats how ubuntu works. ;)
[06:42] <_kuja_> No major updates are coming in, this is pretty much how edgy is going to be
[06:42] <Realistic_Dragon> mauro__: because 6.10 is now a release version
[06:42] <mauro__> oh
[06:42] <Realistic_Dragon> (k)ubuntu releases a stable version then starts on the new version :)
[06:42] <lm_> kuja: Dr_willis: the firefox update is kinda big... something about the password manager in both IE and firefox giving away your password with a simpel html command or something
[06:42] <mauro__> hold on
[06:42] <soulrider> thats better :P
[06:43] <Realistic_Dragon> soulrider: you can turn on the backports repo if you want new stuff, but im not sure of the criteria for things being added to backports
[06:43] <soulrider> lm_: whats why i use Opera :P
[06:43] <soulrider> Realistic_Dragon: i think its enabled already
[06:43] <Willtre> What's the KDE version of gedit?  I'm switching from Ubuntu to Kubuntu (Edgy) and I need to edit my xorg.conf for it to boot up properly and change my driver to vesa.
[06:43] <lm_> Dr_willis: well anyway.... any idea on how i can install another copy of firefox then?
[06:43] <soulrider> Willtre: Kate
[06:43] <Dr_willis> lm_,  if youa re that paranoid about it - you could go download/use the latest firefox  by isntalling it to your users home dir
[06:43] <lm_> k
[06:44] <Dr_willis> lm_,  or using that klick stuff.
[06:44] <Willtre> soulrider: Thanks, see you on Kubuntu : ).
[06:44] <lm_> *ok
[06:44] <Dr_willis> or autopackage, or other thangs..
[06:44] <soulrider> :)
[06:44] <_kuja_> ubuntu development process = sync with debian, updates and development work go on for about 3-4 months, freeze updates, then work on fixing bugs, or something like that.
[06:44] <soulrider> _kuja_: interesting....
[06:44] <_kuja_> perhaps I should have said 3-5 months
[06:44] <lm_> _kuja_: so when will the repos get an update...when the next ubuntu gets out?
[06:44] <soulrider> does debian come with a graphic enviroment already installed?
[06:44] <Sanne> Willtre: aside from Kate there's also Kwrite, a simpler text editor.
[06:45] <_kuja_> soulrider_: debian gives you a text environment, though you can choose a gui if you want to in the installer
[06:45] <soulrider> _kuja_: ahh allright
[06:45] <soulrider> id like to try debian someday
[06:46] <soulrider> tried to get gentoo up and running... but failed
[06:46] <soulrider> well, my network card refused to work, so its like i failed
[06:46] <_kuja_> lm_: so yes, feisty is getting all the updates now, there won't really be any more updates for edgy, however, feisty is in development/alpha/unstable phase.
[06:46] <akrus> can I get some wine support here? :)
[06:47] <parigigi> mmh... the error disappeared, but the problem remains
[06:47] <soulrider> feisty is comming in march right ?
[06:47] <soulrider> !schedule
[06:47] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[06:47] <parigigi> :-(
[06:47] <_kuja_> yup
[06:47] <akrus> Feisty <3
[06:47] <akrus> works okay :)
[06:47] <soulrider> damn, i dont know why
[06:47] <soulrider> after a while of being online
[06:47] <akrus> with newest packages :)
[06:47] <soulrider> some of my apps simply acts as if i were offline
[06:47] <akrus> Delphi 7 works under Wine lol
[06:47] <soulrider> its really annoying
[06:47] <_kuja_> parigigi, I've no idea what the problem could be ... I coudln't reproduce it myself or I'd have a better shot at helping you.
[06:47] <soulrider> i have to reconnect
[06:48] <_kuja_> akrus: agreed, they haven't done anything to break it yet ...
[06:48] <lm_> o btw... can anyone here tell me how to update my java? ife kinda tried everyway, but my java --version tells me always that i have version 1.4.2
[06:48] <_kuja_> lm_ what version of java do you want?
[06:48] <_kuja_> perhaps sun java 1.5 or 1.6?
[06:48] <lm_> 1.5.0 at least
[06:48] <akrus> so well
[06:48] <soulrider> whats a herd cd ?
[06:49] <akrus> is it possible to set Virtual Wine Desktop only for one application?
[06:49] <_kuja_> You can get 1.5 from the repos, it's in multiverse as the sun-java5-jre/jdk packages.
[06:49] <_kuja_> 1.6 can be downloaded from the sun website.
[06:49] <lm_> _kuja_: ok ill try it thanks :)
[06:49] <soulrider> 1,6 is beta i believe
[06:49] <_kuja_> no
[06:49] <_kuja_> It's not.
[06:49] <soulrider> :O
[06:49] <soulrider> final ?
[06:50] <_kuja_> Yeah
[06:50] <akrus> yep
[06:50] <_kuja_> released a week or two ago.
[06:50] <akrus> it's 6.0
[06:50] <akrus> not 1.6 :)
[06:50] <soulrider> ohh
[06:50] <soulrider> akrus: its the same actually
[06:50] <akrus> it is
[06:50] <akrus> but 6.0 is not 1.6 :)
[06:50] <soulrider> yes :P
[06:50] <_kuja_> kuja@terra:~$ java -version
[06:50] <_kuja_> java version "1.6.0"
[06:50] <_kuja_> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0-b105)
[06:50] <_kuja_> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 1.6.0-b105, mixed mode)
[06:51] <soulrider> they have to update it int he repos....
[06:51] <akrus> yes, but for Windows it's 6.0 xD
[06:51] <soulrider> akrus: its the same
[06:51] <_kuja_> It's the same thing!
[06:51] <soulrider> they give it both names
[06:51] <akrus> >_<
[06:52] <_kuja_> It's kinda like this, java 1.0 was java 1 platform, java 1.2 1.3 and 1.4 were the java 2 platform, java 1.5 is the java 5 platform, java 1.6 is the java 6 platform. It makes no sense, I know. I have no idea why they did it.
[06:52] <Willtre> Alright, I can't Kate since it can't connect to X-Server, and that's the reason why I'm trying to edit my xorg.conf!  You see, to launch the desktop environment I need to change from ati to vesa drivers in my xorg.conf.  Are there any other commandline text editing tools that might not call on XServer?
[06:53] <Willtre> Gedit didn't which is why I was able to run ubuntu.
[06:53] <_kuja_> villtre: nano, vim
[06:53] <Willtre> _kuja_: Alright, I'll try nano and vim thanks : ).  I'm not at all expierienced with KDE so hopefully I'm not to much of a bother.
[06:55] <mirshafie> i want to remove a LD_LIBRARY_PATH to a program that doesn't work. how can i do that?
[06:56] <_yyoman_> how do I turn the away message off in Konversation?
[06:58] <_kuja_> mirshafie, hmm
[06:58] <_kuja_> Not sure
[06:58] <Sanne> mirshafie: depends on how it is set. If it is set in a start script, you could change it there.
[06:58] <_kuja_> That's probably the best way ...
[07:00] <mirshafie> Sanne, _kuja_: ok. Sorry if it's a stupid question, but where would it be located if it's a start script?
[07:00] <_kuja_> /usr/bin/programname is usually a symlink to it
[07:00] <_kuja_> or /usr/local/bin/programname
[07:00] <Sanne> mirshafie: depends on the program, you can look in the program folder if it is installed manually, or in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[07:01] <Sanne> mirshafie: what program is it?
[07:01] <mirshafie> well i know where it's installed - my home folder (yes, i put the whole thing there).
[07:01] <_kuja_> Hmm, the programs name, or the programs name.sh, look for a file like that
[07:01] <mirshafie> so, then what, i need to remove it all or just some link?
[07:02] <Sanne> mirshafie: how are you supposed to start it?
[07:02] <parigigi> _kuja_ : thanks a lot anyhow... I'll try to ask someone else. Have a good day
[07:02] <_kuja_> You need to edit a line in the startup script, if there is one, else, it's probably not a library path problem, or maybe it is and you need to create a startup script that sets the ld_library_path
[07:02] <_kuja_> You too parigigi
[07:02] <parigigi> \quit
[07:02] <parigigi> mmh
[07:03] <mirshafie> Sanne: it's a script called Julius in ~/.julius/bin/Julius
[07:03] <mirshafie> but it doesn't work
[07:03] <Sanne> mirshafie: can you open it in a text editor?
[07:04] <mirshafie> Sanne: no, it's a binary
[07:04] <Sanne> mirshafie: ok, you have two options
[07:04] <_kuja_> Then, if it truely is a library path problem, you might need to create a startup script for it
[07:04] <_kuja_> One that sets the ld_library_path before launching the real binary
[07:04] <_kuja_> As for the second option, ask Sanne
[07:05] <Sanne> mirshafie: quick one: set the library path in a terminal and start Julius fron there afterwards, or two: as _kuja_  said :)
[07:05] <Cuddles_in_KY> help. i just had a major system crash, and after rebooting, everything in my home directory that wasn't hidden is -gone-. any way to recover it?
[07:05] <mirshafie> _kuja_: well, i'm not sure i want to run it at all. the reason i want to change the library path is because X says it's faulty whenever i login to kde
[07:05] <Sanne> _kuja_: nice teamwork ;)
[07:05] <_kuja_> :D
[07:06] <_kuja_> Cuddles_in_KY, take a look in /lost+found and hope for the best
[07:06] <Cuddles_in_KY> kuja, did that. no joy
[07:06] <Cuddles_in_KY> all . files are still there, but everything else is gone
[07:07] <_kuja_> Sounds like something majorly ugly happened ...I hope you had backups
[07:07] <Cuddles_in_KY> some, but not all... any way to recover the missing files/
[07:07] <_kuja_> If it's an ext2/3 partition, try running e2fsck
[07:08] <_kuja_> As for this crash, any idea what happened?
[07:08] <mirshafie> Sanne, _kuja_: i have no idea how to set library paths :) and all i want is to get rid of the X warning dialog, so it doesn't matter to me if i can actually start Julius afterwards
[07:09] <_kuja_> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/libraries
[07:09] <Sanne> mirshafie: I think you lost us a bit here... what exact warning do you get?
[07:09] <lm_> allright..... i just installed java 1.5.10 into /usr/java .... but when i run java --version it STILL tells me that i run 1.4.2... do i hyave to make a link or something, or what am i doing wrong?
[07:10] <lm_> *have
[07:10] <_kuja_> lm_
[07:10] <_kuja_> the easiest way to install 1.5 would have been to install it using ubuntu's repositories, but seeing as you've already downloaded/installed it, I'll tell you what to do
[07:10] <Dr_willis> gotta love doing things the hard way. :)
[07:11] <_kuja_> do you only need the runtime environment, or do you need access to the JDK stuff too(javac,, appletviewer, etc)
[07:11] <lm_> the best wy to learn about this goddamn linux :D
[07:11] <lm_> *way
[07:11] <Dr_willis> !java
[07:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:11] <Sanne> lm_: aside tip: if you installed manually, it would have been better into /usr/local/java, because those folders aren't geverned by the package manager.
[07:11] <_kuja_> ** or /usr/lib/jvm
[07:11] <_kuja_> which is where all you other jvm's are installed
[07:12] <lm_> _kuja_: i need it to run frostwire... ive read on the linuxquestions forums, that it needs higher java version than i have
[07:12] <_kuja_> also where sun-java5-jre would have installed to
[07:12] <_kuja_> lm_
[07:12] <_kuja_> one sec, I'm going to explain it to you
[07:12] <Sanne> _kuja_: I disagree, /usr/lib is package manager stuff. I like to keep those things seperate.
[07:12] <mirshafie> Sanne: after login with kdm, i get one of those special X warnings that usually just come up when something is seriously wrong. :D you might have seen them, they've got an ugly font and rounded buttons for example (they're not part of kde as for what i understand). that message tells me the LD_LIBRARY_PATH for some binary in ~/.julius does not work. i remember the script i used to install julius said something about adding a library
[07:12] <mirshafie> path
[07:12] <_kuja_> Bah, I like keeping things all in one place, besides, with java, to remove all you have to do is remove one folder, not so bad
[07:13] <_kuja_> if it installed it like a mess like most things do, then I'd agree with you
[07:13] <Sanne> mirshafie: I don't know those messages. What you tell me makes me think that Julius attempts to get started when you start KDE? If so, maybe you can disable it somehow?
[07:14] <Sanne> _kuja_: It's a matter of preference, I think. As long as you remember what you did to your system manually in times of upgrades and the like, all is well :)
[07:14] <mirshafie> Sanne: yea, seems like it (and odd to, because it's just supposed to be a normal app). btw, this kind of messages come up before KDE has started to load. i've got a similar one once before when i butchered my home folder :)
[07:15] <_kuja_> sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/java/bin/java java /usr/bin/java 10
[07:15] <_kuja_> sudo update-alternatives --set java /usr/java/bin/java
[07:15] <_kuja_> lm_
[07:15] <_kuja_> assuming the path to the java binary is /usr/java/bin/java
[07:15] <mjugendrat> hi
[07:15] <lm_> alllll riiight ill try them.. thanks _kuja_
[07:16] <mjugendrat> i such the code for make a ander display
[07:16] <mjugendrat> ...
[07:17] <mirshafie> well, i'll try some of the things you mentioned. thanks, _kuja_ and Sanne
[07:17] <Sanne> mirshafie: the underlying reason I suspect is, that Julius needs to know about the path it is in for it's libraries. So if you ever get to find out how it is started, you can try to add: 'export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/.julius or maybe /home/.julius/lib or wherever the libs are.
[07:17] <No1Viking> I want to update BIOS in my computer and need to make a startdisk for it. How do I do that?
[07:17] <_kuja_> Sanne: why would the home folder be hidden?
[07:18] <Sanne> _kuja_: because mirshafie said so somewhere above ;)
[07:18] <_kuja_> ah
[07:18] <xenol> DaSkreech yo
[07:18] <Sanne> _kuja_: but it seems that's a typo, eh? Didn't think, thanks.
[07:18] <xenol> !OSS
[07:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about OSS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:19] <mirshafie> Sanne: allright, sounds promising. i'll try that. thanks :)
[07:19] <Willtre> alright I'm on the Kubuntu Live CD
[07:19] <Sanne> mirshafie: you're welcome :)
[07:19] <Willtre> had to killall kdm and then kdm to get on  But now, my installer is stuck at 4% on "running gnome32_power_manager"
[07:19] <_kuja_> strange
[07:20] <_kuja_> What exactly was the problem you were having, in the broader sense, willtre?
[07:20] <lm_> hey _kuja_ ... it tells me "No such directory"
[07:20] <lm_> ... im kinda lost right now
[07:21] <_kuja_> lm_, well, one second
[07:21] <Willtre> _kuja_: Well, atfirst the CD wouldn't run at all and just crash, But then all I had to do to get to my kde desktop was change to vesa drivers and reboot.  But now my Kubuntu installer isn't moving at all and it's at 4% running gnome power manager
[07:21] <lm_> cause the directory exist
[07:21] <Willtre> I'm thinking I'll just reboot the liveCD and restart the installer
[07:21] <_kuja_> lm_
[07:21] <_kuja_> !pastebin | lm_
[07:21] <ubotu> lm_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:21] <_kuja_> do this: ls -lR /usr/java
[07:22] <Willtre> Restarting live CD now
[07:24] <karmikaze> !wpa
[07:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:24] <yelonek> !pl
[07:24] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[07:25] <fribuntu> Hi all!
[07:25] <karmikaze> hi you!
[07:26] <fribuntu> I had a strange message from fsck today during bootup. "fsck died with exit status 1". According to the documentation this means it found errors but corrected them. Is there any way to find out exactly which errors it found? Is there a logfile for fsck somewhere? I can't find it uder /var/log ...
[07:26] <karmikaze> hrm
[07:26] <karmikaze> locate fsck
[07:26] <karmikaze> locate fsck | grep log
[07:26] <karmikaze> maybe that will turn something up
[07:26] <_kuja_> fribuntu, oddly enough, I get that message a lot
[07:27] <lm_> _kuja_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38132/
[07:27] <_kuja_> ever since my computer got shut off in a sudden power outage
[07:27] <fribuntu> _kuja_: I see it as a bad sign ... maybe my disk is about to die?
[07:27] <fribuntu> karmikaze: Found it. Thanks! (should have known that myself :)
[07:27] <karmikaze> hrmm was WPA supported in dapper??
[07:27] <karmikaze> :)
[07:27] <karmikaze> np
[07:27] <_kuja_> fribuntu, unless something out of the ordinary happened to cause it, I woudln't dismiss the possibility, what fs are you using?
[07:27] <lm_> jesus.... even when i do my "java --versione" it now tells me that "No such file or directory"...
[07:27] <fribuntu> _kuja_: ext3
[07:28] <_kuja_> hod old is your disk, and what brand is it?
[07:28] <fribuntu> _kuja_: about a year and it is a maxtor.
[07:28] <mjugendrat> bye
[07:29] <_kuja_> Well, I certainly wouldn't dismiss the possibility of it dying, back up your data, otherwise you may find yourself very, very disappointed and without your data within about a year.
[07:29] <fribuntu> _kuja_: I calculate a hdd lifetime of three years. I am not on 24/7.
[07:29] <_kuja_> A lot of the new maxtor drives are dying.
[07:29] <fribuntu> _kuja_: Damn. I switched from Seagate over to Maxtor because I had frequent problems with Seagate before.
[07:29] <doudoo> somebody can help me with a wrong install of gpar2 ???
[07:30] <_kuja_> My current seagates seem to be doing well ..... barracuda 250gb, I've got two of them.
[07:30] <fribuntu> _kuja_: They just don't build quality drives any more. Better to change them routinely once a year now.
[07:30] <fribuntu> doudoo: Can you elaborate on the nature of that "wrong install"?
[07:31] <doudoo> oki i'm french but i'll try too
[07:31] <lm_> _kuja_: uploaded the file...what now?
[07:31] <fribuntu> _kuja_: Well, maybe it is just me always getting the faulty drives of any brand. So you can have good experiences :)
[07:31] <doudoo> so yesterday i wanted to install gpar2
[07:31] <_kuja_> Iv'e not heard of many problems with WD drives, and seagates have a decent track record l ately. Maxtor h as been bought out by Seagate
[07:31] <doudoo> but the install failed
[07:31] <DaSkreech> xenol: Yup?
[07:31] <doudoo> and today i wanted to install the new beryl-svn
[07:32] <doudoo> but when i type my cmd
[07:32] <xenol> DaSkreech i pm u got a discussion for a long time :/
[07:32] <_kuja_> lm_ I'm looking at it now
[07:32] <doudoo> it return that he couldnt because of a probleme with gpar2
[07:32] <lm_> _kuja_: i really appreciate it :)
[07:32] <DaSkreech> xenol: I was at lunch :0
[07:32] <DaSkreech> xenol: What discussion?
[07:33] <doudoo> fribuntu ??? still there?
[07:33] <fribuntu> doudoo: So you got an error message "I cant do this because of a problem with gpar2. Good bye"?
[07:33] <doudoo> no
[07:33] <_kuja_> lm_: sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java /usr/java/jre1.5.0_10/bin/java java 10
[07:34] <doudoo> but it's pretty hard for me to translate
[07:34] <fribuntu> doudoo: Or was there any information that might actually help to find the cause of the error?
[07:34] <doudoo> a technical message error
[07:34] <fribuntu> doudoo: What is your native language?
[07:34] <doudoo> let me check some vocabulary ^^
[07:34] <doudoo> french
[07:34] <_kuja_> lm_ sudo update-alternatives --set /usr/java/jre1.5.0_10/bin/java
[07:34] <fribuntu> doudoo: So go to the french forums then?
[07:34] <doudoo> nobody can help me
[07:34] <doudoo> ...
[07:35] <_kuja_> What was your problem again .... granted, I don't know an ounce of french.
[07:35] <fribuntu> doudoo: Hmm ... I am not sure I can either.
[07:35] <lm_> _kuja_: both times, it tells me "No such file or directory"
[07:35] <_kuja_> Odd
[07:36] <_kuja_> mayber I messed up with my copying & pastuing
[07:36] <DaSkreech> !tuxracer
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tuxracer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <DaSkreech> !ppenguin
[07:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppenguin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:36] <doudoo> when i sudo apt-get install beryl, the errror is : the package gpar2 must be reinstall. but i can't locate his archive.
[07:37] <_kuja_> lm_, that path should be correct, according to the directory structure you printed out for me.
[07:37] <lm_> hmmm......... cryptic....
[07:37] <doudoo> when i sudo apt-get install gpar2 it says the says
[07:37] <doudoo> the package is on my desktop
[07:37] <doudoo> desktop folder i mean
[07:38] <_kuja_> type this: ll /usr/java/jre1.5.0_10/bin/java
[07:38] <weswh-> has anyone setup an SSHFS thing? i have it all working - but i want to mount a particular user of the system I am SSHing to, and it doesn't seem to have an option to supply an alternate user name.
[07:38] <_kuja_> *erm, ls -l
[07:38] <_kuja_> unles you have the ll alias set, sorry, it slipped
[07:38] <fribuntu> _kuja_, karmikaze: I checked the fsck log. It just repeats the messages it showed during the check. No additional information about the nature of the error. See http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38134/
[07:39] <lm_> _kuja_:  -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 65076 2006-11-10 00:03 /usr/java/jre1.5.0_10/bin/java
[07:39] <fribuntu> that is quite annoying. Hmm ... what was the tool that could read out the HDD SMART data again?
[07:39] <_kuja_> fribuntu, disregard it, but make regular backups  JIK
[07:39] <Ace2016> Hi all
[07:39] <Fragrag> Can somebody explain me just how do I do this?: http://www.itdp.de/~itdp/html/mplayer-users/2004-11/msg00412.html
[07:39] <_kuja_> hi Ace
[07:40] <Ace2016> When raid 1 is used, are both disks reading the same info at the same time? or is it only 1 disk that is read from with the other just synced every now and then?
[07:40] <Ace2016> _kuja_: Hi
[07:40] <_kuja_> Ace2016: At least with a hardware RAID controller, the drive whose head is closest to that block of data reads it
[07:41] <Ace2016> What about software raid, with mdadm?
[07:41] <_kuja_> I would assume it would do the same, presuming its smart enough.
[07:41] <_kuja_> Both drives won't be reading it at the same time unless there's multiple simultaneous accesses
[07:41] <Ace2016> so hdparm -tT wou;ld be faster for md0 than for individual disks?
[07:42] <_kuja_> Give it a try
[07:42] <_kuja_> Show me what it has to say
[07:42] <_kuja_> Do it for /dev/mapper/device ........ I think
[07:42] <_kuja_> if it supports doing that
[07:42] <_kuja_> or maybe doing it for md0 would work too, I'm not sure
[07:42] <_kuja_> or wait, /dev/mapper would dmraid
[07:42] <_kuja_> sorry
[07:43] <DaSkreech> ubotu: tuxracer is Tuxracer is now renamed Planet Penguin Racer!!!!! The package is planetpenguin-racer in universe. Enjoy
[07:44] <_kuja_> Ace2016: Try this: hdparm -tT /dev/md0 /dev/(insert first drive here), /dev/(second drive here)
[07:44] <xenol> !source-o-matic
[07:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic.  It does not currently support Edgy sources.  When asked if it will, the reply was "maybe".
[07:45] <fribuntu> Grr. "Maxtor 6L200M0 ... device does not support SMART". What is that? A one year old disk without SMART capability?
[07:45] <DaSkreech> !planetpenguin-racer
[07:45] <DaSkreech> ! info planetpenguin-racer
[07:45] <ubotu> planetpenguin-racer: another 3D racing game featuring Tux, the Linux penguin. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-8 (edgy), package size 273 kB, installed size 744 kB
[07:45] <dennister> hey everyone, u want to hear something really funny? technically-related?
[07:45] <_kuja_> My drives fare pretty well :D 1700mb/s for cache reads, 63mb/s for disk reads
[07:45] <fribuntu> dennister: No.
[07:45] <DaSkreech> ubotu: tuxracer is Tuxracer is now renamed Planet Penguin Racer!!!!! The package is planetpenguin-racer in !universe. Enjoy
[07:46] <dennister> oooooookkkkkkk
[07:46] <_kuja_> lm_, well that's certainly odd .... it definitely exists
[07:47] <lm_> _kuja_: yeah... how wouls i have to update it via the repos?
[07:47] <_kuja_> lm_, if you do it via the repos, first you enable the multiverse repository, then you do sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[07:48] <zarko> hi
[07:48] <Ace2016> none of the pastebins work, very strange
[07:48] <Ace2016> Finally god one http://paste.uni.cc/12410
[07:48] <Ace2016> zarko: hi
[07:48] <aleksanteri> i have a problem, but too lazy to write everything so i give a link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=322216
[07:50] <Ace2016> Why is raid1 so slow, you have 2 disks to read from, so why doesn't it easily out perform the single disks?
[07:51] <zarko> how to run streaming audio
[07:51] <lm_> _kuja_: holy sh** i dont know what i did with your commands kuja, but now i cant open any apps!"!!
[07:51] <_kuja_> It's not designed to be faster, really, and the only time you see read performance increases is when you multiple access to the same thing. Raid1 is about redundancy, not speed.
[07:51] <lm_> "KDEinitcould not launch firefox. Could not find firefox executable"...!!!
[07:51] <_kuja_> RAID0 speeds up access, but it's not redundant, in fact, it's the opposite, it spreads the data across multiple disks, so if any one of them fails your're sol
[07:51] <_kuja_> !!
[07:51] <lm_> this is serious
[07:52] <_kuja_> lm_ that's way ODD!
[07:52] <lm_> ...
[07:52] <karmikaze> !wpa
[07:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:52] <_kuja_> try sudo aptitude install firefox?
[07:52] <_kuja_> maybe it removed something while you weren't looking o.O
[07:52] <Ace2016> lm_: did you update kde and not restart or something?
[07:52] <lm_> ...i cant open the teminarl
[07:52] <lm_> terminal
[07:52] <lm_> nope
[07:52] <_kuja_> lm_ ctrl + alt + f1
[07:52] <lm_> not that i know of
[07:53] <lm_> what would that do _kuja_?
[07:53] <_kuja_> use ctrl + alt + f7 to get back to the gui
[07:53] <Ace2016> i was about to say that
[07:53] <_kuja_> ctrl + alt + f1 takes you to vt1
[07:53] <lm_> what would that cause? a restart of kde?
[07:54] <lm_> jesus... almost every app on my kdepanel cant start
[07:54] <lm_> oh man....
[07:54] <DaSkreech> lm_: kalm my friend
[07:54] <lm_> lol this is almost scary :)
[07:55] <DaSkreech> If one change can break everything then one change can put it back :)
[07:55] <aleksanteri> lm_: reboot? just threw in tho :P
[07:56] <DaSkreech> lm_: can you press Alt+F2 ?
[07:56] <lm_> uhm... not to worry anyone...... isnt there supposed to be a "bin" directory in the "usr"
[07:56] <lm_> ?
[07:56] <DaSkreech> lm_: Yes
[07:56] <lm_> ....................
[07:56] <lm_> w   t  f has happenede?
[07:57] <lm_> my bin directory oos gone!!
[07:57] <lm_> *is
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Ah :)
[07:57] <DaSkreech>  that would explain a lot
[07:57] <lm_> holy f***
[07:57] <DaSkreech> sothere is no /bin
[07:57] <DaSkreech> lm_: again
[07:57] <Ace2016> how did you get rid of /bin
[07:57] <DaSkreech> calm down :)
[07:57] <aleksanteri> O_o
[07:57] <aleksanteri> that's mad!
[07:57] <Ace2016> i suppose a command that reinstalls all packages on the system would be handy about now, since root apps run from /sbin
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Ther is one
[07:58] <DaSkreech> lm_: do you still havea /usr/bin ?
[07:58] <Ace2016> wait how do you know you don't have a /usr/bin?
[07:58] <lm_> how would a list EVERY directory...not just the visible?
[07:58] <lm_> dir?
[07:59] <Ace2016> ls /usr/bin/* shoud show it
[07:59] <Willtre> Hey guys, in Konversation how do I make it auto-identify? What do they mean by "Service"... Do I put freenode or something?
[07:59] <_kuja_> nvidia's 9631 driver is ticking me off!!
[07:59] <Ace2016> _kuja_: that driver is good
[07:59] <Ace2016> i'm using it with beryl and its very stable
[07:59] <lm_> _kuja_: No such file or diretory
[07:59] <_kuja_> Like h*#!
[07:59] <Ace2016> i have to eat now, brb
[07:59] <lm_> YEAH!!
[07:59] <_kuja_> I woudln't be hard booting my system if this driver was good ....
[08:00] <lm_> _kuja_: im gonna strangle you when i get a hold on you
[08:00] <_kuja_> reachign for that power button is not a good sign!
[08:00] <lm_> :)
[08:00] <lm_> you moved my bin directory to my /usr/java directory!!
[08:00] <_kuja_> strangle me eh? Only if you promise to strangle nvidia in my stead
[08:00] <Willtre> I want to download software from the multiverse and universe, what repos should I add multi/universe to?
[08:00] <_kuja_> I moved nothing!
[08:00] <lm_> yes you did
[08:00] <_kuja_> you moved it!
[08:00] <Willtre> I liked Gnomes just check the box of what you want -.-
[08:00] <_kuja_> I never told you to use the mv command ....
[08:01] <DaSkreech> !universe > Willtre
[08:01] <lm_> _kuja_:  no..... but you better give me some command to get it back
[08:01] <lm_> :)
[08:01] <_kuja_> Where is it at again?
[08:01] <_kuja_> the mv command might do the trick ...
[08:01] <Willtre> DaSkreech: Thanks
[08:01] <lm_> ... /usr/java/bin
[08:01] <_kuja_> sudo mv oldlocation newlocation
[08:02] <DaSkreech> lm_: Whats inside of that directory?
[08:02] <lm_> DaSkreech: a LOT
[08:02] <lm_> looks very much like my bin dir
[08:02] <_kuja_> /bin, or /usr/bin?
[08:02] <DaSkreech> Ah :-) Is echo inside there?
[08:02] <_kuja_> what's in your /bin and /usr/bin directories?P
[08:03] <lm_> DaSkreech: yeah, echo-klient-something
[08:03] <lm_> _kuja_: what do you mean?
[08:03] <DaSkreech> lm_: No just echo nothing else
[08:03] <_kuja_> do ls /bin and ls /usr/bin
[08:03] <_kuja_> what's in those places?
[08:04] <lm_> _kuja_: a LOT file names... like kicker and such
[08:04] <lm_> zip
[08:04] <lm_> zipnote
[08:04] <lm_> ...
[08:04] <lm_> lot more
[08:04] <lm_> kfile
[08:04] <lm_> etc.
[08:04] <runpain> God day all
[08:05] <runpain> can some one helpme
[08:05] <_kuja_> Well that's good ....... those things don't seem to be broken. I'm suspecting the problems happened when you did the aptitude install sun-java5-jre ...
[08:05] <aseigo> goddess day to you too =)
[08:05] <_kuja_> runpain: probably
[08:05] <xenol> !oo
[08:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about oo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:05] <runpain> i goofed up my linux it gets to splash screen and i cant logon
[08:06] <runpain> i changed the grapic card driver
[08:06] <lm_> fu***!!!
[08:06] <_kuja_> lm_ what now?
[08:06] <runpain> it is at grub boot now
[08:06] <lm_> how am i supposed to move the damn directory, when linux cant find the damn sudo command which is in the bin dir!!!
[08:06] <lm_> aaarrghgh
[08:06] <aseigo> runpain: so the splash screen is all "messed up" visually, or it isn't accepting your password?
[08:06] <_kuja_> runpain: can you use ctrl + alt + f1 to get back to the terminal?
[08:06] <runpain> how do i fix this
[08:07] <Rob-West> can someone tell me why i cant play a game on http://www.freeonlinegames.com/
[08:07] <_kuja_> lm_, try running sudo with the full path
[08:07] <lm_> ...allright, ill try it
[08:07] <runpain> aseigo
[08:07] <DaSkreech> !openoffice
[08:07] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[08:07] <lm_> like "/usr/java/binsudo mvdir /usr/java/bin /usr"??
[08:07] <xenol> Linux is like wygnan, no windows, no gates, apache inside :p
[08:07] <Willtre> Is Koffice anywhere near openoffice's quality?
[08:08] <runpain> ok what it does is the proscess and then it gets stuck just befor the logon
[08:08] <_kuja_> I find koffice great, though some of its finer soon-to-be killer features are a bit buggy
[08:08] <Stalwart> does kubuntu feisty require internet connection to install?
[08:08] <xenol> no
[08:08] <_kuja_> at least it doesn't take an hour to start up!
[08:08] <lm_> ahhhhhhhhhhh:D
[08:09] <Willtre> Koffice it is! *Downloads*
[08:09] <lm_> *whew*
[08:09] <Willtre> I've been using Krita instead of gimp lately too, it's nice since it's only one window
[08:09] <Rob-West> can someone tell me why i cant play a game on http://www.freeonlinegames.com/ when i load the games the game screen is black
[08:09] <lm_> nice linux help, you are _kuja_ :D
[08:09] <Willtre> Rob-West My guess is they use flash and they require flash 8 and or you don't have flash 7
[08:09] <lm_> moving my dirs around :D
[08:09] <Stalwart> Rob-West: java plugin probably
[08:09] <elt0n> hi can someone tell me how to speed up kpf under KDE?
[08:09] <Rob-West> i have Flash 7 and Java
[08:09] <_kuja_> lm_, your problem right now is by far the whackiest I've ever seen
[08:09] <runpain> i am using ichthux
[08:10] <DaSkreech> lm_: Ha ha chalk it up to experience
[08:10] <lm_> lol yeah
[08:10] <DaSkreech> runpain: How is it?
[08:10] <runpain> its real nice
[08:10] <_kuja_> elt0n, there are some settings in its configure menu that might speed it up for you
[08:10] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: What's his problem other than hopping inodes?
[08:10] <elt0n> _kuja_:i want to share files locally on lan with windows i get a much more higher speed! Why is this limited to 99999kb/s
[08:10] <_kuja_> rob-west, what's the output of java -version run from a terminal?
[08:10] <Willtre> I'm using Kopete how do I delete status messages?
[08:10] <runpain> but i screwed up and replaced grapic driver and cant logon
[08:11] <Stalwart> christian linux?
[08:11] <_kuja_> elt0n: no idea
[08:11] <Rob-West> java version "1.5.0_08"
[08:11] <elt0n> _kuja_:but i only get 900k
[08:11] <xenol> !regnum online
[08:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regnum online - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <Skeez187> Are there any good usenet binary apps besides klibido?
[08:11] <_kuja_> rob-west, that should work well ... I wonder if that's the version that your browser is using, java.com has an applet that will tell you
[08:12] <Rob-West> well im running FireFox 2.0
[08:12] <runpain> stal can you pm me
[08:12] <Stalwart> ?
[08:12] <runpain> ya you asked is it christian
[08:13] <runpain> i am usins my desktop
[08:13] <runpain> rite now
[08:13] <runpain> with windoz
[08:13] <Willtre> K > G *Is amazed by all the ksoftware, compared to gnome as I just switched.  Ktoon looks awesome.  Kdevelop is nice.*
[08:13] <Stalwart> i just think religion is personal stuff of every person, i don't like "christian", "satanic" and other such stuff
[08:14] <elt0n> afk
[08:14] <runpain> listen i wasnt asking or preaching
[08:14] <Stalwart> it's like sexual orientation - i don't think "linux of gays" is good idea
[08:14] <DaSkreech> Stalwart: All linux is agnostic
[08:14] <LjL> !offtopic
[08:14] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:14] <Stalwart> =P
[08:14] <DaSkreech>  No one knows all knowledge so we all work together to scratch our knowledge itch :-)
[08:14] <runpain> i was only looking for some help here you arte the one with the opions
[08:15] <DaSkreech> runpain: what did you need help with
[08:15] <Rob-West> where can i get like Internet Explorer 6
[08:15] <DaSkreech>  _kuja_What's lm_'s problem?
[08:15] <Willtre> Has anyone used a Wacom tablet with Krita?
[08:15] <Stalwart> Rob-West: try ies4linux script
[08:15] <DaSkreech> Rob-West: apt-get install firefox
[08:15] <_kuja_> Seems like lm_'s problem is nightmarish at this point
[08:16] <runpain> i scrweed up my graphic driver now it wont boot to logon scren
[08:16] <DaSkreech> _kuja_: Which is?
[08:16] <Rob-West> firefox is installed
[08:16] <Willtre> runpain: Which driver are you using?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> runpain: Do you have a live Cd?
[08:16] <Stalwart> runpain: did you try using livecd to repair config?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> Rob-West: Then you are ok :)
[08:16] <deus> hello
[08:16] <_kuja_> binaries seem to have been copied or moved from some folder to another (/usr/java/bin, or similar), and everything is broken
[08:16] <Rob-West> i think this game needs shockwave
[08:17] <_kuja_> Rob-West: Shockwave isn't available under Linux
[08:17] <runpain> ya i havce live cd but this machine will not boot with the dvd driver installed only the cdrom and i left it home
[08:17] <Rob-West> and using like Crossover wont work
[08:17] <Rob-West> unless i install the Windows version of Firefox
[08:18] <_kuja_> you *might* be able to install a windows browser with wine, and install shockwave with wine
[08:18] <_kuja_> I don't know if it will work or not htough.
[08:18] <runpain> can i repair when i boot to grub
[08:18] <runpain> in recovry mode
[08:19] <Rob-West> i got a crossover
[08:19] <Stalwart> runpain: you'll need default config if you don't know xorg.conf structure
[08:19] <runpain> can i repair config from the grub
[08:19] <Stalwart> runpain: grub is bootloader, you need to boot your system anyways
[08:20] <Stalwart> in singleuesr mode
[08:20] <runpain> ok its to there
[08:20] <_kuja_> the xorg.conf may be repairalbe from a terminal with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:20] <runpain> yes
[08:20] <towync> hi, i'm trying to watch video online firefox, and it keeps saying i'm missing plugins x-mplayer2, i already installed mplayer, what could i do
[08:20] <Stalwart> towync: mplayer-plugin isntalled?
[08:21] <runpain> ok i can make it to trem
[08:21] <DaSkreech> lm_: What's the problem?
[08:21] <towync> Stalwart how do i install the plugin, i think i just download from apt get mplayer
[08:21] <_kuja_> supposedly this non-usable xserver-xorg configuration drops you to the terminal "problem" (from a certain perspective) will be fixed in feisty :) (see the bullet-proof x specification)
[08:22] <runpain> ok its booting through the config
[08:22] <Gecko> Hey there. There was an update to a lot of kde packages a few days ago, and since then, I have experienced a lot of random lock-ups in kde. I have linked the problem to dcopserver - maybe it crashes, maybe it just doesn't work that well. Sometimes when I launch kde, and start konqueror, konqueror freezes, and every subsequent app I start locks up as well. Has anyone experienced this before, or got any solution?
[08:23] <_kuja_> Gecko: I've not experienced this.
[08:23] <Gecko> weird
[08:23] <_kuja_> are you sure _all_ packages were updated?
[08:23] <runpain> now when i turn off grphic its a blank screen with flashing line
[08:23] <Gecko> _kuja_: yes. I have some unresolved dependencies regarding python, but nothing that has anything to do with kde
[08:23] <runpain> i an re booting
[08:24] <Stalwart> towync: mplayer-plugin must be in repos
[08:24] <runpain> i am rebooting
[08:24] <Gecko> _kuja_: sometimes even kicker crashes
[08:24] <_kuja_>  Gecko: and you're using dapper? or edgy?
[08:24] <towync> Stalwart so just do apt-get install mplayer-plugin?
[08:24] <Gecko> _kuja_: edgy
[08:24] <Rob-West> wine is laggy
[08:24] <_kuja_> Hmm, odd enough.
[08:24] <Stalwart> towync: probably, i didn't use ubuntu since dapper
[08:25] <Rob-West> now if i install ShockWave with wine will it work for the Linux FireFox
[08:25] <_kuja_> rob-west, it does tend to be, it's far from perfect
[08:25] <Gecko> _kuja_: it's almost every second time I start up kde. When it actually is stable, I get a message on launch that dcopserver isn't running, or something the like
[08:25] <unix_infidel> Rob-West: of course not.
[08:25] <_kuja_> rob-west: no
[08:26] <towync> Stalwart cool, what do u use? i'm pretty new to linux and i'm still trying out for a nice OS
[08:26] <runpain> i am at root@bible_laptop:~#
[08:26] <_kuja_> Gecko: try reinstalling kde-base, maybe there's a problem of some sort
[08:26] <darkserver> hello
[08:26] <_kuja_> *erm, kdebase
[08:26] <Gecko> _kuja_: ok, I will do that, but not while kde is running :)
[08:26] <Stalwart> towync: i was using archlinux
[08:26] <unix_infidel> towync: my guess is the distro that helps you get the most work done will keep you sane when your not doing work.
[08:26] <runpain> how do i reconfig graphic card driver
[08:27] <unix_infidel> for me that was *ubuntu
[08:27] <runpain> back to the orginal one
[08:27] <darkserver> I have some kind of trouble, when i trying to install beryl in kubuntu edgy
[08:27] <towync> cool thx everyone
[08:27] <Stalwart> ubuntu is great
[08:27] <Stalwart> archlinux has bad amd64 support =\
[08:27] <towync> Stalwart is mplayer different from mplayer plugin?
[08:27] <darkserver> please i need help, some help
[08:27] <Stalwart> towync: mplayer-plugin is wrapper that allows you to play videos in mozilla, opera, konq
[08:27] <faLUCE> Hi all.. which is the command line to see the available and the actually free ram? thnks
[08:28] <runpain> Stalwart are you going to help me?
[08:28] <Stalwart> faLUCE: free -m
[08:28] <Stalwart> runpain: no, i'm just chit-chatting =]
[08:28] <runpain> you started to
[08:28] <faLUCE> Stalwart: thnks
[08:28] <Stalwart> i like how ubuntu evolves, it's good
[08:29] <Stalwart> faLUCE: np
[08:29] <murchadh_bhaba> runpain, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:29] <runpain> thank you mur
[08:29] <Stalwart> runpain: i usually use livecd for fixing my problems, i never used singleuser mode
[08:29] <Stalwart> so i can't help you
[08:29] <murchadh_bhaba> runpain, vw ??)
[08:31] <_kuja_> darkserver, what sort of trouble?
[08:31] <velle> i want to buy a printer, is it always easy to install them on kubuntu? or should i look for something special?
[08:31] <Stalwart> velle: hp released opensource drivers
[08:32] <Stalwart> velle: check hplip.sf.net
[08:32] <runpain> did it mugot the blue screens
[08:33] <deus> hey guys
[08:33] <runpain> at key board detection
[08:33] <deus> I burned a liveCD of kubuntu
[08:33] <deus> And I got the splash screen, but halfway through the boot process it hangs
[08:34] <velle> Stalwart: opensource drivers is great, but i have NO idea how to modify drivers myself, i need an easy way to install it
[08:34] <_kuja_> velle, you'd best check what's compatible before you buy, and then look for that compatible printer. Printers can be trouble in linux
[08:34] <Stalwart> velle: opensource drivers are good for distro developers, ubuntu devs include hplip by default
[08:35] <_kuja_> http://www.freestandards.org/en/OpenPrinting
[08:35] <knapp_> What program can convert m4a to mp3?
[08:36] <Stalwart> knapp_: much programs, audio-convert for example
[08:36] <cloakable> knapp_: ffmpeg
[08:36] <knapp_> cool thanks
[08:36] <Chainsaw> Hello all, has anyone tried setting up syslog for a linksys router in Kubuntu?      I do that
[08:39] <Stalwart> deus: use google to find some info about your hardware compatibility
[08:39] <runpain> mu?
[08:39] <Stalwart> my lappy's chipset (nvidia mcp51) sucks ;[
[08:39] <runpain> should i boot back up
[08:40] <jerp> just for the record: when I downloaded kubuntu I burnt the cd at a slower rate but still found that it would hang during install and solved that problem by moving the graphical interface around and then clicking the next button to proceed.
[08:42] <xenol> DaSkreech onyl packages stay there or config files, some tmp like in windows?
[08:42] <xenol> only
[08:43] <Daskreech2> remove leaves your config files incase you want to install it again later
[08:45] <xenol> DaSkreech2 so app s removed but package and conf files(it there r any) r stored on / partition?
[08:45] <Daskreech2> what do you mean by package?
[08:45] <Daskreech2> Dink: Got my PM?
[08:46] <_kuja_> xenol: it keeps conf and similar files, which are usually hidden files in your home director, conf files in /etc/, or log files in /var
[08:46] <Dink> Daskreech2, about ps3/ubuntu ?
[08:46] <_kuja_> *directory
[08:46] <Daskreech2> Yeah the walkthrough to install
[08:47] <Dink> yeah I saw but not really the way to do it ..... waiting for the fluxbuntu or a real ps3 image
[08:47] <Dink> dont want to install 2 os's then remove oen
[08:47] <Dink> one*
[08:47] <xenol> DaSkreech2  ?
[08:47] <Daskreech2> So you are going to use fluxbuntu?
[08:48] <Dink> they are going to come out with a ps3 image
[08:49] <Daskreech2> Dink: Yeah But I mean wouldn't that be fluxbuntu and not Kubuntu :)
[08:49] <Daskreech2> xenol: I should ask you that
[08:49] <Daskreech2> In fact.. I did!!
[08:49] <Dink> ;), until "ubuntu" has a ps3 image its closest thing that will be supported to a "ubuntu" distro
[08:50] <_kuja_> The one thing I wonder about linux on the ps3 is the graphics drivers .... there is no proprietary drivers for nvidia cards on the PPC platform, and even if there were, the nvidia drivers likely don't support the RSX anyway
[08:50] <xenol> DaSkreech2  fluxbuntu?
[08:50] <Daskreech2> Yeah But shouldn't you "technically" be able to apt-get install a fluxbuntu server then apt-get isnatll kubunut-desktop
[08:50] <Daskreech2> xenol: That wasn't for you
[08:50] <Dink> _kuja_, it a security risk i think to give full access to the RSX
[08:50] <Daskreech2> xenol: I was asking what you meant by package
[08:51] <xenol> DaSkreech2  that i download thorugh apt-get
[08:51] <Daskreech2> _kuja_: I recall .. somewhere that nvidia would release drivers for it
[08:51] <Daskreech2> no remove doesn't get rid of those
[08:51] <Daskreech2> ap-tget clean gets rid of those
[08:51] <_kuja_> be right back, I've got laundry to do ..
[08:52] <xenol> DaSkreech2  apt-get clean does get rid of wat?
[08:53] <Daskreech> xenol: The package you downloaded
[08:53] <Daskreech> they are kept in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:53] <xenol> i need to write apt-get clean name_of_the_package?
[08:53] <Daskreech> no that' just gets rid of everything in /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:54] <Daskreech> autoclean is smarter way
[08:55] <xenol> daskreech do u know any page where i can choose wat for i want to sue PC and gives me the list of sofware i should have?
[08:56] <Daskreech> Why do yo uwant to sue your PC?
[08:56] <b0nn> Hi all, I'm having upgrading problems (dapper -> edgy)
[08:56] <xenol> sue?
[08:57] <Daskreech> !upgrade
[08:57] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:57] <b0nn> I cannot reboot my system, and google hasnt shown me any solution.  The errors I get are, mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed no such file or directory
[08:57] <xenol> any web page that can give me a list of best soft in categories like ofice, chat, archiver, media/audio player etc
[08:58] <Daskreech> !windows
[08:58] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[08:58] <Daskreech> !equivalents
[08:58] <ubotu> A comprehensive list of of Windows-equivalent applications in Linux can be found at http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[08:58] <Daskreech> That one :)
[08:58] <xenol> ty
[08:59] <b0nn> ah, so I need to install the following that were heldback apt-get -u dist-upgrade | grep ^' ' | xargs apt-get -y install
[08:59] <sinpath> need help my yahoo keeps losing connection with the yahoo sever
[08:59] <b0nn> how do I do that on a system that wont boot?
[08:59] <lm_> Daskreech: _kuja_ : sorry for not answering, was outside running... but no worries, got it fixed by using the sudo path and moving the bin dir back :D
[09:00] <_kuja_> lm_: that's good news
[09:00] <lm_> yup :)
[09:00] <b0nn> do I boot a live cd, mount/chroot, then run that command?
[09:00] <sinpath> any one?
[09:00] <Daskreech> b0nn: That can work
[09:01] <Daskreech> sinpath: how often?
[09:01] <lm_> well thanks for the help... allthough my original problem still exist hehe see ya
[09:02] <sinpath> well about every 3 or so hours
[09:02] <Daskreech> what was the original problem
[09:02] <Daskreech> Oh thought that was just me
[09:02] <Stalwart> w00t, kubuntu 7.04 is awesome
[09:02] <Stalwart> <3 developers
[09:03] <Daskreech> Herd 1?
[09:03] <_kuja_> kubuntu 7.04 isn't even kubuntu 7.04 yet .... it's still kubuntu feisty, and as fa
[09:03] <_kuja_> r as I can tell it's hardly been touched
[09:03] <_kuja_> just edgy with some updated packages ...
[09:03] <Stalwart> Daskreech: yup, i run livecd now and will install it on hard drive right now
[09:03] <Stalwart> _kuja_: feisty has newer kernel
[09:04] <hudsy> hello
[09:04] <hudsy> i have a problem!!
[09:04] <_kuja_> as I said, edgy with some newer packages, such as that newer kernel
[09:04] <Stalwart> my hardware sucks and i need fresh kernel
[09:04] <_kuja_> hudsy: say it
[09:04] <hudsy> i cant open folders,
[09:04] <Daskreech> hudsy: can you go into folders?
[09:04] <_kuja_> What does it tell you?
[09:04] <hudsy> konqueror->erased
[09:04] <_kuja_> permission denied or something?
[09:04] <hudsy> with firefox
[09:04] <hudsy> no
[09:05] <_kuja_> I don't get it, what do you mean by konqueror->erased?
[09:05] <hudsy> i havent it
[09:05] <_kuja_> apt-get install konqueror?
[09:06] <hudsy> it give me an error
[09:06] <_kuja_> what error?
[09:06] <hudsy> it says the pakage is broke
[09:06] <_kuja_> !pastebin
[09:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:06] <_kuja_> can you show me what the error is?
[09:06] <_kuja_> ubotu spoils me ...
[09:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spoils me ... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:06] <_kuja_> !botsnack
[09:06] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:07] <Daskreech> _kuja_: How do you discipline the boot?
[09:07] <hudsy> Els segents paquets tenen dependncies sense satisfer:
[09:07] <Daskreech> Botsmack or something
[09:07] <hudsy>   konqueror: Depn: kcontrol (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3) per s'installar 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2
[09:07] <hudsy>              Depn: kdebase-kio-plugins (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3) per s'installar 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2
[09:07] <hudsy>              Depn: kdesktop (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3) per s'installar 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2
[09:07] <hudsy>              Depn: kfind (= 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3) per s'installar 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2
[09:07] <hudsy> E: Paquets trencats
[09:07] <hudsy> hudsy@hudsy-desktop:~$
[09:07] <_kuja_> funny
[09:07] <_kuja_> try it
[09:08] <hudsy> what can i do??
[09:08] <Daskreech> bot
[09:08] <Daskreech> !botsmack
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botsmack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <_kuja_> try apt-get i nstall kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kfind
[09:08] <Daskreech> !botslap
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about botslap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <ubuntu_> oops
[09:08] <Daskreech> !shut up!
[09:08] <ubotu> :x
[09:08] <Daskreech> heehee :)
[09:08] <hudsy> botslap???
[09:08] <_kuja_> haha
[09:08] <hudsy> whats this??
[09:09] <Daskreech> hudsy: the opposite of !botsnack
[09:09] <_kuja_> try apt-get i nstall kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kfind
[09:09] <ibert> hi! I have a problem with kmail / imap. Sometimes the main In Folder "Posteingang" Disapears und is named "INBOX" after starting kontact. Further is the folder not a "special iconed" folder anymore, but is in the "normal" order of all the other folders in that email account. I had this problem in the past sometimes, but when restarting kontact the normal structur took place. Now I can't restore the old structure. any idea?
[09:09] <_kuja_> hudsy: that was just fun with the bot
[09:09] <Daskreech> !botsnack
[09:09] <ubotu> Yum!
[09:10] <_kuja_> ibert: I don't know, I don't use IMAP. I have heared of troubles with IMAP when using kmail before.
[09:10] <hudsy> _kuja_: anything...
[09:10] <Stalwart> ghm, i can't run installer
[09:10] <Stalwart> it gives me traceback
[09:10] <Stalwart>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 27, in ?
[09:10] <Stalwart>     from kdeui import *
[09:10] <_kuja_> hudsy: apt-get install kdebase-kio-plugins kdesktop kfind
[09:10] <Stalwart> ImportError: dynamic module does not define init function (initkdeui)
[09:11] <hudsy> it says is already installed...
[09:11] <_kuja_> Stalwart: feisty is far from being considered a stable release at the moment, your best bet is dist-upgrading from edgy, but that will take work, you'd best know what you're doing.
[09:11] <_kuja_> hudsy: that's interesting, one moment
[09:11] <Stalwart> i want to install feisty, is there a development chan?
[09:12] <_kuja_> hudsy: are you running edgy or dapper?
[09:12] <hudsy> edgy
[09:12] <homer_> hi, need help with 5.1 sound
[09:13] <_kuja_> Humm, I think it's saying that konqueror 3.5.5ubuntu3 is trying to be installed, and it's depending on kcontrol 3.5.5ubuntu3, but kcontrol 3.5.5ubuntu3.2  is installed, but it has to be equal.
[09:13] <homer_> !5.1
[09:13] <_kuja_> What repository are you using?
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 5.1 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <mb___> !floating point exception
[09:13] <_kuja_> !surround sound
[09:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about surround sound - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:13] <mb___> can anyone hear me?
[09:14] <_kuja_> Huh, what's that, I can't hear you?
[09:14] <mb___> all of my x window apps are giving me floating point exceptions =/
[09:14] <Daskreech> install a fpu on your CPU?
[09:14] <_kuja_> mb___? Weird, are you overclocking or anythign weird like that?
[09:15] <mb___> not that i know of
[09:15] <hudsy> what can i do?
[09:15] <_kuja_> hudsy: what repositories are you using? Can I see your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[09:15] <_kuja_> !pastebin | hudsy
[09:15] <ubotu> hudsy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:17] <mb___> as the story goes, i installed the latest ati drivers the other day, and as i was playing around with wine, i had this point where the xserver got some type of font error when i tried to start it.. so i installed fluxbox, and everything's been fine until now
[09:17] <aleksanteri> wb DarkWizdom
[09:18] <DarkWizdom> thanks  :|  still having problem?
[09:18] <aleksanteri> ye :(
[09:19] <_kuja_> What's the problem?
[09:20] <DarkWizdom> internet not working :)
[09:20] <_kuja_> Crazy wireless problem I presume?
[09:20] <DarkWizdom> no, adsl
[09:20] <hudsy> kuja, what can i doo??
[09:20] <_kuja_> hudsy, can I see your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[09:20] <hudsy> i paste here??
[09:21] <_kuja_> !pastebin
[09:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[09:22] <hudsy> kuja: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38151/
[09:23] <Ace2016> I'm back
[09:23] <hudsy> any idea kuja???
[09:23] <BluesKaj> same here :)
[09:24] <Ace2016> hudsy: what happened to your konqueror?
[09:25] <hudsy> i dont know....i've erased and now i cant reinstall it!
[09:26] <_kuja_> I'm looking at it now hudsy
[09:26] <hudsy> ok
[09:26] <hudsy> thenks
[09:27] <Willtre> I'm trying to get a Wacom intuos tablet to run on KDE.  I downloaded wacomtools and followed the wikipage/forum post but still when I mouse over stuff they don't get highlighted and I can't click drag. Can anyone help?
[09:28] <jerp> Has that 'NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9631-pkg2.run' driver for amd64 been checked out for installation on Kubuntu or should one stay with the standard nvidias in Adept manager?
[09:29] <Ace2016> _kuja_: would it help hudsy to add kubuntu's kde-latest to his repos and try to update and get konqueror back that way?
[09:29] <_kuja_> hudsy: I think I've figured out your problem, try adding this line to your sources.list: deb http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse, sudo apt-get update, then try to install konqueror
[09:29] <_kuja_> No, Konqueror 3.5.5ubuntu3.2 is provided by the edgy-updates repository
[09:29] <Ace2016> never knew taht
[09:29] <Ace2016> that*
[09:30] <knapp_> How can I restore a file I deleted using the 'rm' command?
[09:30] <_kuja_> knapp_ in short, you can't
[09:30] <BrianSteffens> what is the name of that thing that manages desktop widgets? karamba or something?
[09:30] <Daskreech> knapp_: redownload?
[09:30] <knapp_> yikes
[09:30] <Daskreech> Jesus has left us :(
[09:31] <_kuja_> lol
[09:31] <BrianSteffens> ha
[09:31] <DarkWizdom> !jusus
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jusus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <DarkWizdom> :(
[09:31] <Ace2016> knapp_: a data recovery app might be able to help, but i've never tried it
[09:31] <SlimG> More importantly, jesus is a KDE user :)
[09:31] <DarkWizdom> :D
[09:31] <BrianSteffens> :o)
[09:31] <hudsy>  thanks kuja!
[09:31] <jerp> that was probably Hey-suse
[09:31] <Daskreech> He loves choice :)
[09:32] <_kuja_> You're welcome hudsy, I'm assuming it worked?
[09:32] <hudsy> you are the best, ets el millor, eres el mejor, tu es le meilleur!!
[09:32] <hudsy> XD
[09:32] <CotRo|eR> Hey any 1 can show me how to do this: http://pastebin.ca/286605 in terminal (since i'm using ubuntu server)
[09:33] <_kuja_> ;)
[09:34] <ScottK> CotRo|eR - mkdir /home/YOUR_NAME/samba
[09:34] <ScottK> Was that the question?
[09:35] <CotRo|eR> yes, if I do that command it gets shared automatically ?
[09:35] <ScottK> That makes the directory.
[09:36] <CotRo|eR> how do I make step 2, 3 and 4 in terminal ?
[09:37] <Willtre> !ati > Willtre
[09:37] <ScottK> Try doing those steps on your desktop and then look at the permissions of the folder.  Use chmod to match those permissions.
[09:37] <hermesreg> hello??
[09:38] <hermesreg> anybody can help me??
[09:38] <hermesreg> When i start the streamtuner, the pc sends me something about xmms
[09:39] <jerp> heremsreg, should we ask what that something is?
[09:40] <jerp> or are we to know
[09:40] <hermesreg> wait a minute im going to repeat the action and tell to you the error message
[09:40] <jerp> this isn't foreknowledge, it's called IRC chat
[09:41] <hermesreg> oh I'm sorry ! Bye!!
[09:41] <jerp> np
[09:42] <murchadh_bhaba> CotRo|eR, /etc/samba/smb.conf is where shares and stuff go, is this what you're looking for. You can sudo nano /etc/samba/smb.etc
[09:44] <DarkWizdom> what do you recomend for burning iso s in kubuntu?
[09:44] <_kuja_> k3b
[09:44] <DarkWizdom> ok
[09:45] <_kuja_> By the way, k3b 1.0RC2 was released this week, and it's positively awesome
[09:45] <loslopez> mctux
[09:45] <DarkWizdom> that's perfect :))
[09:46] <_kuja_> Hmm, I think I'll venture into the dark, mysterious world of package building and try to build a k3b 1.0RC2 deb
[09:47] <DarkWizdom> me too
[09:47] <DarkWizdom> heh
[09:47] <martasbncz> speek czek ?
[09:47] <DarkWizdom> hmm
[09:48] <DarkWizdom> it says on website it's unstable ^^
[09:48] <DarkWizdom> gonna wait a bit longer :P
[09:49] <CotRo|eR> tnx murchadh_bhaba :)
[09:50] <_kuja_> DarkWizdom: it's plenty stable
[09:50] <Imrahil> how can I make a script with a dcop call or kwin or something to focus a window of a particular name? it is not a kde app so nothing is exposed in dcop
[09:51] <DarkWizdom> ok :
[09:51] <DarkWizdom> :)
[09:51] <_kuja_> it's not stable, it's currently at the second release candidate, but I mean it's stable enough to use
[09:51] <_kuja_> Heck, 1.0pre1 was pretty stable at that ...
[09:51] <_kuja_> albeit not perfect, but certainly stable enough to use
[09:52] <DarkWizdom> good enough for me
[09:52] <_kuja_> do apt-get install build-essential, then apt-get build-dep k3b
[09:52] <_kuja_> then you should be able to compile it without issue, should
[09:53] <DarkWizdom> ok :|
[09:53] <CotRo|eR> I have just managed to share a folder from ubuntu to windows, how do I set a limit of e.g. 10GB on samba???
[09:53] <virtual-voicu> i selected remote login in kdm and put the ip adress of an edgy computer but nothing happened (this computer is a breezy one)
[09:54] <_kuja_> to compile it, you first extract it (tar xf filename.tar.bz2), then you cd into the folder it created, then ./configure --enable-debug=full; make; sudo make install
[09:54] <virtual-voicu> can someone please point to some instructions on how to establish a remote login through X?
[09:54] <DarkWizdom> do I need dubug though?
[09:54] <DarkWizdom> debug*
[09:54] <CotRo|eR> I have just managed to share a folder from ubuntu to windows, how do I set a limit of e.g. 10GB on samba???
[09:54] <_kuja_> !remote
[09:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:54] <_kuja_> DarkWizdom: I just throw that in because it's helpful
[09:55] <DarkWizdom> ye, ok
[09:55] <Cuddles_in_KY> ok folks, after seven reboots, my system isn't crashing at random. -but- i need to install libcurl-gnutls-dev, but i can't get it to install. both apt-get, and adept both just say ''waiting for headers'' any ideas on this?
[09:55] <_kuja_> Should something go awry, it'll give better debugging information so they can fix it easier
[09:55] <DarkWizdom> true :|
[09:56] <_kuja_> Cuddles_in_KY: which repositories are you using? Try changing it to archive.ubuntu.com, or us.archive.ubuntu.com, updated,  and see if it makes any difference
[09:56] <_kuja_> (this of course, is done with /etc/apt/sources.list)
[09:57] <murchadh_bhaba> CotRo|eR, You seem to be on your way, cool! I'm not sure I get what you're asking now. Can you clarify? ??)
[09:57] <Cuddles_in_KY> kuja, no joy. can't even run apt-get update
[09:58] <_kuja_> What?
[09:58] <_kuja_> did you try changing the mirrors like I suggested?
[09:58] <Cuddles_in_KY> yes
[09:58] <_kuja_> Something is certainly wrong then
[09:59] <CotRo|eR> murchadh_bhaba: Yes of course, tnx btw. I have shared /home/samba and its now shown on My windows machine :D, now how do I make a limit to use 40GB and not more on /home/samba ?
[09:59] <_kuja_> The update flies well for me, so it's not a problem with the mirrors
[09:59] <Cuddles_in_KY> well, it's not not my connection, since i can connect anywhere else.
[09:59] <morgWork> ... I am baffled as to why df is not showing my root partition being mounted
[10:00] <_kuja_> Cuddles in KY: try this in a terminal: dig http://archive.ubuntu.com
[10:01] <Cuddles_in_KY> kuja, nothing.
[10:01] <Cuddles_in_KY> just sitting there
[10:03] <_kuja_> Well, cuddles_in_ky, that's not good news.
[10:03] <bthibault> i have 2 versions of flash installed for firefox, anybody know how to get rid of one
[10:03] <bthibault> ?
[10:04] <_kuja_> sounds like a dns resolution problem or something
[10:04] <_kuja_> bthibault: delete the one you don't want from the browsers plugin folder
[10:04] <Cuddles_in_KY> i can ping, surf, and chat just fine.
[10:04] <BluesKaj> bthibault, which 2 versions ?
[10:04] <CotRo|eR> murchadh_bhaba: Yes of course, tnx btw. I have shared /home/samba and its now shown on My windows machine :D, now how do I make a limit to use 40GB and not more on /home/samba ?
[10:04] <Cuddles_in_KY> i can even ping the repositories
[10:05] <murchadh_bhaba> CotRo|eR, You have me there. I've not had to do this. I'm doin' a quick scan of some notes. Hmmm......
[10:05] <bthibault> BluesKaj: 7.0 r68 and 9.0 d78
[10:05] <_kuja_> You can ping them, but you can't resolve their address, if dig isn't working for it, try resetting your networking (sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop && sleep 10s && sudo /etc/init.d/networking start)
[10:05] <CotRo|eR> tnx :)
[10:06] <Cuddles_in_KY> kuja, i can pull it up in firefox too.
[10:06] <BluesKaj> bthibault, dump vers 7 ...vers9 is the latest one
[10:06] <_kuja_> I suggest trying to restart the networking anyway, might fix it ;)
[10:07] <bthibault> BluesKaj: thanks i kind of figured that, i only have one libflashplayer.so file that i can find
[10:07] <_kuja_> bthibault: sudo locate -u; locate libflashplayer.so
[10:08] <BluesKaj> bthibault, i had to do that as well, the /usr/lib/firefox/plugins file doesn't show which *.so file is which
[10:09] <bthibault> _kuja_ thanks
[10:09] <bthibault> BluesKaj thanks
[10:09] <BluesKaj> np, bthibault. ..good luck :)
[10:10] <Daskreech> _kuja_: Whats so good about it?
[10:10] <Daskreech>  can it burn Bluray?
[10:10] <_kuja_> Yes
[10:10] <_kuja_> with growisofs7
[10:10] <_kuja_> At least, it recommends growisofs7 be used ...
[10:10] <_kuja_> I don't have a bluray burner so I can't test if it works.
[10:11] <Adam_eM> hi
[10:11] <Cuddles_in_KY> ok, i'm back. even rebooted my firewall, still no joy.
[10:11] <_kuja_> And I don't have $x00 dollars with which to get one
[10:12] <_kuja_> Also, audio previews for when you're burning a music cd (yes, this is new), massively improved/completed dvd ripping support, a slew of usability improvements
[10:12] <Daskreech> _kuja_: I have $00 dollars
[10:12] <Adam_eM> is there a possibility to set up a wireless connection using kubuntu livecd?
[10:12] <_kuja_> Daskreech: Wow, that sounds like how much I have
[10:12] <Daskreech> k3b is in which branch? Playground ?
[10:12] <Cuddles_in_KY> kuja, any more ideas?
[10:12] <_kuja_> multimedia, I think
[10:13] <_kuja_> cuddles_in_ky, I just went to do an apt-get update, and it hung at some point or another, something's wrong
[10:13] <Cuddles_in_KY> gee, ya think?
[10:13] <_kuja_> I think it hung on the universe or multiverse repository
[10:15] <Adam_eM> so what about the wireless connection setup? is it possible to get it directly from the livecd?
[10:15] <_kuja_> Daskreech: you can get k3b from k3b.org, click on the download link for RC2
[10:15] <Daskreech> I'm not sure I use k3b that much :)
[10:16] <_kuja_> It's painless, I swear
[10:16] <Daskreech> basically I fire it up once a new Kubuntu release is made to make an alternative and desktop CD
[10:16] <Daskreech> and I can do that with cdrecord
[10:16] <Daskreech> Though I did use it once to make a audio CD for a friend
[10:18] <Daskreech> backport it :)
[10:18] <_eMaX_> re
[10:19] <_eMaX_> in a wireless network with multiple repeaters, how can I see which one I am connected with
[10:23] <khaled> hi there, i have kubuntu installed on a partition and /home installed on another partition. can i install another distro on a new partition but at the same time uses /home ?
[10:25] <virtual-voicu> ok, does anyone know how to i connect to another machine through X? or how do i have to configure my machines to let kde connect them
[10:29] <Timmmm> virtual-voicu: ssh -X you@remote-machine
[10:30] <reagleBRKLN> i have files on a fuse partion i can't remove for some reason
[10:30] <reagleBRKLN> ?--------- ? ? ? ?            ? rawdog.html
[10:30] <Timmmm> khaled: Don't see why not.
[10:30] <reagleBRKLN> any way to force the issue?
[10:30] <soon> I'm utterly stuck ... cant seem to connect to my wireless (DHCP) ... Wireless Assist. shows me all 3 local routers, but Connection failed ... (IBM T60, Atheros wifi card) ... please help me :-)
[10:31] <Captain_Redbeard> how is kubuntus 64bit CD? I mean are all packages that are availible through the resps for the x86 architecture availible for the 64bit one and so forth?
[10:31] <aleksanteri> !kuser
[10:31] <ubotu> kuser: KDE user/group administration tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 230 kB, installed size 796 kB
[10:32] <murchadh_bhaba> virtual-voicu, How connect? Filesharing, ssh, desktop (vnc)? Tell us more? Give us more Input? InPuT???
[10:33] <virtual-voicu> well, X is supposed to be a network transparent display system
[10:33] <virtual-voicu> that means the windows will appear on this machine but the applications will run on the other one
[10:33] <virtual-voicu> it's similar to ssh just that is GUI
[10:34] <Captain_Redbeard> anyone?
[10:35] <_kuja_> C_R: not all, but most
[10:35] <_kuja_> The differnece is less than 2%
[10:35] <Daskreech> Captain_Redbeard: If you have a 64 Bit machine and use a 64bit kernel then your apps are 64 bit
[10:35] <Daskreech> assuming they are open source
[10:35] <BrianSteffens> can anyone please point me to some kind of tutorial on networking with fedora core or specifically ubuntu?
[10:35] <Captain_Redbeard> Daskreech: eherm? If you compile them all for your system yes
[10:36] <Realistic_Dragon> what kind BrianSteffens? advanced stuff (ad hoc routing, BGP, that kind of thing)?
[10:36] <Daskreech> Well if someone compi;es them for your system :)
[10:36] <computer> does anyone know how i can add borders?
[10:36] <Captain_Redbeard> Daskreech: exactly ;)
[10:36] <computer> sorry
[10:36] <BrianSteffens> realistic_dragon that'd be nice for the future yes but for now i'm looking for basics.. proper management of permissions to shared network resources, etc
[10:36] <computer> i meant does anyone know how i can add borders to windows?
[10:37] <Daskreech> Right well the repos have both x86 and x86_64 if you are 64bit you get x86_64
[10:37] <_kuja_> ARen't there borders by default computer?
[10:37] <Captain_Redbeard> Daskreech: My question though is, will I be able to have the same vast selection of binary packages I am used to?
[10:37] <Realistic_Dragon> hmm im actually not sure about that BrianSteffens, sorry :( if the ubuntu wiki doesnt have anything then the gentoo forums are always an interesting place to look - i assume you are sharing with samba? then you can also try the samba website
[10:37] <Realistic_Dragon> or the samba irc channel :)
[10:37] <BrianSteffens> realistic
[10:37] <BrianSteffens> realistic_dragon ty :)
[10:37] <Realistic_Dragon> np
[10:37] <_kuja_> C_R: yes, a handful aren't available for 64_bit
[10:38] <_kuja_> a small handful at that
[10:38] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: Hmm ok, is it even something I will notice?
[10:38] <Daskreech> _kuja_: I'm guessing using the capn's full name would help :)
[10:38] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: usually typing cap<tap> works ;)
[10:38] <Captain_Redbeard> *tab
[10:38] <_kuja_> does it?
[10:39] <BrianSteffens> captain_redbeard: my experience with that is pretty much everything is available if you're willing to build some from source
[10:39] <Daskreech> Captain_Redbeard: I guess there may be one or two obscure packages that stopped being maintained before the advent of 64 bit that you can't live without that may possible not have been updated
[10:39] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard:  oooooh it does
[10:39] <_kuja_> thanks :)
[10:39] <Daskreech> !tab
[10:39] <ubotu> You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[10:39] <towycc> _kuja_ yeah borders were on by default, i sort of took it off, and now i can't find where to turn it back on lol
[10:39] <Captain_Redbeard> BrianSteffens: yes obviously ;) But me being a lazy twat is the reason I left gentoo behind me... and if I have to build stuff from source anyway it kinda beats the purpose ;)
[10:39] <_kuja_> and to think I've been typing them out for all this time
[10:40] <towycc> well someone mighta had the same question and still needed what u typed out =) so y ou still helped alot of people who is not speaking =)
[10:40] <towycc> does anyone know how i can turn on borders for windows?
[10:41] <_kuja_> towycc: assuming you're using kwin, system-settings -> appearance -> window decorations might be a place to start
[10:41] <towycc> and yes the borders were on by default, i somehow took it off, i remember too, but i just don't know where
[10:41] <towycc> to turn it back on at
[10:41] <towycc> i checked their tho
[10:42] <_kuja_> right click on the titlebar of any window, you should be able to do some configuration from one of the options that gets you
[10:42] <_kuja_> I've been using beryl lately though, so I can't really check it myself
[10:42] <_kuja_> unless i pull up a vm
[10:43] <towycc> yeah thx tho, i didn't want u to have to check, i'll look around some more, and *so jealous* you have beryl working! =)
[10:43] <_kuja_> switching vts has been throwing my video driver for a loop lately
[10:43] <fdoving> towycc: you can access the menus in question from the tasklist too, if you've disabled the borders.
[10:43] <towycc> oo, where's tasklist
[10:43] <towycc> o u mean to open the windows decoration thingy
[10:44] <DarkWizdom> how do you set password for root? meaning that it has no password at all at the moment
[10:44] <_kuja_> DarkWizdom, why not use sudo?
[10:44] <_kuja_> !sudo
[10:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:44] <aleksanteri> hmm it simply is not an option now
[10:45] <aleksanteri> like, set the password for root permamently
[10:45] <DarkWizdom> yeah
[10:45] <_kuja_> towycc: try looking under systemsettings -> desktop -> window behavior and systemsettings -> desktop -> window specific settings
[10:46] <towycc> cool thx _kuja_
[10:46] <DarkWizdom> I think some binaries have problems with sudo
[10:46] <DarkWizdom> so trying to use su only
[10:46] <_kuja_> sudo passwd -u root && sudo passwd root
[10:46] <DarkWizdom> thanks :)
[10:47] <babavwoko> hello
[10:47] <_kuja_> hi
[10:47] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmmm... I wonder if it's possible to do some form of "upgrade" from a 32bit system to 64... sounds a bit dodgy though...
[10:47] <murchadh_bhaba> CotRo|eR, http://www.tux.org/~rmorgan/als2000/linux_samba.html do a search for limit and I think it's you're 2nd or 3rd hit in the page (around the middle). I think it's what you wanted.
[10:47] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: No, it's not
[10:47] <babavwoko> -got stuffs that u guys will luv
[10:48] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: The answer would involve debootstrapping, at which point you're doing all the work yourself anyway, and might as well reinstall to save yourself time
[10:48] <babavwoko> beside what do you guys do
[10:48] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: Hmm i _must_ be.... :) Just replacing all the installed packages with 64-bit ones
[10:48] <babavwoko> have been using micr prior to this time
[10:48] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: exactly! :) I'm well bored and it would probably take me some good 5 hours... a nice way of killing time imo
[10:49] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: so long as you're prepared to hit bumps and problems, by all means go ahead
[10:50] <babavwoko> this thread is dead boring
[10:50] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: Some progs might have architecture specific configurations, some things in /var might be architecture specific, problems of that nature
[10:50] <babavwoko> so liong
[10:50] <_kuja_> babavwoko: what thread?
[10:51] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: true true...
[10:52] <benkong2> could someone tell me why knetworkmanager does not keep my wireless key? Edgy fresh install it works fine but makes my enter my 128 bit WEP key each time
[10:52] <BrianSteffens> ok i have a shared folder on my server (running xubuntu) and am trying to connect to it with my main machine (kubuntu).. i can see the files and read them but cannot modify that folder. when setting up samba shares on the server machine i unchecked read-only. any ideas?
[10:52] <Captain_Redbeard> BrianSteffens: Does the samba user have access to the directory?
[10:52] <BrianSteffens> captain_redbeard how do you set up samba users >_<!
[10:53] <Captain_Redbeard> http://www.cerritoslug.org/tutorials/samba.html#Adding%20Samba%20Users%20For%20Win9x%20Clients
[10:54] <BrianSteffens> captain_redbeard perfect, thank you ^.^
[10:54] <Captain_Redbeard> BrianSteffens: no sweat mate :)
[10:54] <nibi> Hi
[10:54] <Captain_Redbeard> hello
[10:54] <nibi> can anyone please help me fix partition problems?
[10:54] <Captain_Redbeard> we can try ;)
[10:54] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: If you're still interested, the solution is something like this: create a folder such as /chroot, debootstrap the 64-bit system in /chroot, delete the original /bin /boot /sbin type of folders, move the ones from /chroot to /, set up networking and other similar things, and hope you didn't miss anything
[10:55] <nibi> sweet :)
[10:55] <Captain_Redbeard> just ask your question and if someone can help you... well then that special one will answer ;)
[10:55] <php-freak> does kubuntu have a newgroup reader?
[10:55] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: Yea... I got the procedure working in my head already... I'm just trying to make up my mind if it's worth it or not :D
[10:55] <BrianSteffens> Multiple desktops owns me!!! .. that is all
[10:55] <Alter-Ego> php-freak akregator
[10:56] <php-freak> is it already installed
[10:56] <Captain_Redbeard> murchadh_bhaba: and join the special peoples club? ;)
[10:56] <murchadh_bhaba> Captain_Redbeard, hehe
[10:56] <nibi> i basically had two partitions on this other HDD (not the one with kubuntu) when i installed kubuntu. Both of them could be accessed in /media as sda1 & sda2
[10:56] <php-freak> !akregator
[10:56] <_kuja_> akregator is already installed, but it's an rss reader . ...
[10:56] <ubotu> akregator: RSS feed aggregator for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 669 kB, installed size 2260 kB
[10:56] <php-freak> I see
[10:57] <php-freak> !newsgroup
[10:57] <nibi> now i formatted that hdd in windows and only have one partition
[10:57] <ubotu> There are Ubuntu newsgroups via NNTP at news.gmane.org
[10:57] <php-freak> I need a newgroup reader
[10:57] <_kuja_> apt-cache search newgroup
[10:57] <Captain_Redbeard> nibi: uhm... So... under windows does it still show up as two partitions?
[10:57] <hatta> pan
[10:57] <hatta> pan is a great gui news client
[10:57] <nibi> but kubuntu still lists sda1 and sda2 in /media but none of them access the new partition
[10:57] <hatta> works just like it should
[10:57] <murchadh_bhaba> ??)
[10:57] <Captain_Redbeard> nibi: /etc/fstab
[10:58] <hatta> reminds me of Agent back in the day
[10:58] <nibi> captain_redbeard: windows sees it fine
[10:58] <b0nn>  php-freak: knode
[10:58] <CotRo|eR> murchadh_bhaba: tnx thats what i wanted
[10:58] <nibi> kubuntu still sees two
[10:58] <Captain_Redbeard> nibi: so does Linux i'd say... you just have to set up your /etc/fstab properly to mount the SDx properly
[10:58] <BrianSteffens> nibi: look at it in cfdisk to see more details about those partitions?
[10:58] <murchadh_bhaba> CotRo|eR, Your welcome!
[10:58] <joecoder> I have a backup, but I'm pretty sure that ntfs-3g deleted my home folder in windows xp
[10:59] <_kuja_> nibi, pastebin your /etc/fstab
[10:59] <joecoder> the folder was c:\MyFiles, and I recently renamed it to c:\myfiles, all done in windows xp
[10:59] <murchadh_bhaba> nibi, at a shell type mount
[10:59] <nibi> bear with me but i don't know what /etc/fstab is
[10:59] <joecoder> I booted into kubuntu then back to windows (no filesystem changes in linux), and I now have two empty MyFiles folders in explorer
[10:59] <b0nn> Im trying to upgrade from dapper to edgy, I have got this error invoke-rc.d: initscript hplip, action "start" failed.
[10:59] <_kuja_> !fstab | nibi
[10:59] <ubotu> nibi: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[10:59] <b0nn> dpkg: error processing hplip (--configure):
[10:59] <b0nn>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[10:59] <b0nn> Its because my kubuntu is unbootable
[11:00] <php-freak> !knode
[11:00] <ubotu> knode: KDE news reader. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1195 kB, installed size 2948 kB
[11:00] <Captain_Redbeard> nibi: see? Alot of people wanna be your special someone!! ;D
[11:00] <b0nn> is there a possible workaround?
[11:00] <nibi> thats awesome! first time on this channel
[11:01] <nibi> never got better support for windows
[11:01] <nibi> lol
[11:01] <Captain_Redbeard> nibi: That because Linux is a community driven project ;)
[11:01] <_kuja_> as for the pastebin I referred to nibi ...
[11:01] <_kuja_> !pastebin | nibi
[11:01] <ubotu> nibi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:03] <Captain_Redbeard> Hmm let's see if I can find that special one too... I'm actually having a bit of a problem myself... Or two actually... but anyway, it seems that nvclock can't identify my nvidia card nor can it read its settings and what it's clocked too... does anyone have any information regarding this?
[11:04] <BrianSteffens> !pastebin
[11:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:04] <b0nn> php-freak: oh and there are curses/commandline usenet readers, like tin and slrn
[11:04] <Captain_Redbeard> actually nothing seems to be able to identify it which causes me a fair amount of problems
[11:04] <_kuja_> Hmm, my nvclock went and disappeared, pity, I had it before I switched over to the 9631 driver ....
[11:05] <nibi> kuja: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38168/
[11:05] <BrianSteffens> captain_redbeard: this is what i got, and i have no idea what it means >_< http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38169/
[11:05] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: same goes for the KDE control center... Graphics card: nv   Driver: nvidia :p
[11:06] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: does nvidia-settings identify it?
[11:06] <Captain_Redbeard> BrianSteffens: well do you have a user called "test" on the system?
[11:06] <BrianSteffens> captain_redbeard nope, do i need to?
[11:06] <Captain_Redbeard> BrianSteffens: Preferably ;)
[11:06] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: yeah
[11:07] <BrianSteffens> captain_redbeard lol ok
[11:07] <DarkWizdom> making k3b takes aaaageeeeesssss
[11:07] <DarkWizdom> 10 mins already O.o
[11:07] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: I would hope that that would be all that mattered, but it sounds like not eh? Did Nvidia not right the nvclock thing?
[11:07] <_kuja_> *write
[11:08] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: well actually the origin of the problem is that I want my card to send to my TV... which it of course doesn't want to... not in Linux nor Windows, or well I'm not really sure how to set it up in windows so nevermind... but I can't get it to work here either
[11:08] <_kuja_> DarkWizdom: it went pretty quick for me ;)
[11:08] <DarkWizdom> what processor you using? :)
[11:08] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: Hmm I don't think so no
[11:08] <DarkWizdom> PIII 1200 here :P
[11:08] <dave_> can somone please help me install some software tha ti downloaded
[11:08] <_kuja_> DarkWizdom: Athlon 64 FX-60
[11:08] <matthew__> dave_, hi,  what can I do for you?
[11:08] <dave_> hey again
[11:08] <DarkWizdom> heheh
[11:09] <matthew__> dave_, did you get your sources.list sorted out?
[11:09] <Captain_Redbeard> BrianSteffens: and then you've got to make sure that the user you are adding have permissions to write to the directory and you should probably add stuff regarding the user to the smb.conf file aswell
[11:09] <dave_> ahh i downloaded flash adn i cant install it!
[11:09] <matthew__> dave_, ok, what have you done so far?
[11:09] <_kuja_> nibi: I see one ntfs partition in your /etc/fstab file
[11:09] <_kuja_> is that what you wanted, or is something up?
[11:09] <Captain_Redbeard> DarkWizdom: go compile wine instead and then complain ;)
[11:09] <dave_> yep all good intelikey just gave me a complete source code
[11:09] <BrianSteffens> captain_redbeard ok thanks
[11:09] <murchadh_bhaba> nibi, Can you tell me what type those (sda1 and sda2) are? I'll try and fix up that /etc/fstab for you.
[11:09] <simen> msn messenfer anyone ?
[11:09] <simen> messenger
[11:09] <DarkWizdom> Captain_Redbeard: :D
[11:10] <matthew__> dave_, cool. So, what have you done so far in regards to flash?
[11:10] <dave_> downloaded it and i cant work out how to start (or what to start it in)
[11:10] <simen> @hotmail ?
[11:10] <_kuja_> Captain_Redbeard: Go run konstruct and then complain ...
[11:10] <nibi> murchadh_bhaba: there's only one, sda1 and its NTFS
[11:10] <matthew__> dave_, have you copied/pasted the .so file into your plugins directory?
[11:10] <Captain_Redbeard> _kuja_: hah! :D
[11:10] <murchadh_bhaba> nibi, Sorry, right!
[11:10] <dave_> ?????ahhh no !!
[11:10] <matthew__> dave_, ok, chill out. It only sounds tough
[11:11] <nibi> murchadh_bhaba: how would you find out the UUID for a partition
[11:11] <simen> MSN MESSENGER ANYONE WHO KNOW ABOUT SKYBOXES<EMAIL_ADDRESS>PLZ !! :P
[11:11] <matthew__> dave_, it would really help if you just answer yes/no...not all this "aaahhh" garbage.
[11:11] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: hmm, please refer from caps
[11:11] <matthew__> dave_, ok, open up konqueror
[11:11] <simen> caps ?
[11:11] <_kuja_> simen: shhhhhhh, be very quiet, I'm hunting n00bs
[11:11] <dave_> sorry
[11:11] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: and it's better to help you here since then other people might get helped too
[11:11] <simen> lol ok
[11:11] <simen> ok
[11:11] <murchadh_bhaba> !UUID > nibi
[11:11] <matthew__> dave_, ok, open up konqueror
[11:11] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: CAPITAL letter :P
[11:12] <simen> how do i get those cool skyboxes i see on youtube.com :P
[11:12] <BluesKaj> i have a file that refuses to be trashed and i have no need for it ...how can i getrid of it ?
[11:12] <simen> Sorry :P
[11:12] <BrianSteffens> haha@kuja
[11:12] <Captain_Redbeard> BluesKaj: rm filename ???
[11:12] <simen> how do i get those cool skyboxes i see on youtube.com :P
[11:12] <dave_> yep done that bit!
[11:12] <BluesKaj> it's not included with the kubuntu install pkges
[11:12] <simen> so i cant getit ?
[11:13] <Captain_Redbeard> BluesKaj: uh?
[11:13] <BrianSteffens> blueskaj try using rm in console?
[11:13] <Captain_Redbeard> BluesKaj: open a terminal, type rm filename
[11:13] <Captain_Redbeard> BluesKaj: if it still messes with you try rm -f filename
[11:13] <matthew__> dave_, ok, now in the address bar in the top type in /
[11:13] <murchadh_bhaba> nibi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38170/ use this one! Backup your old one sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak
[11:13] <simen> plz
[11:13] <ipfw> I'm having trouble with the KDE menu, when I tell it to add a new item it doesn't seem to save
[11:13] <ipfw> anyone seen this ?
[11:13] <BrianSteffens> blueskaj and if it STILL messes with you THROW YOUR COMPUTER OUT THE WINDOW MUHAHA
[11:14] <simen> heha
[11:14] <ipfw> thinking it might be a simple permission error
[11:14] <simen> but skyboxes anyone ?
[11:14] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: skyboxes?
[11:14] <BluesKaj> comedians !
[11:14] <simen> yup ?
[11:14] <matthew__> !plugins > matthew
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about plugins - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <dragonfly7> I am on a really old computer now, running XFCE. I want to install a more useful GUI, so do you guys think that KDE or GNOME is faster?
[11:15] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: never heard anything about any skyboxes, do you mind explaining what it is?
[11:15] <dave_> sorry mathew what am i surposed to be typing in the url bar?
[11:15] <simen> ill give u a link so u can see
[11:15] <DarkWizdom> !skybok
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skybok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <BluesKaj> cannot remove ...it's a direcrory
[11:15] <DarkWizdom> !skybox
[11:15] <Captain_Redbeard> dragonfly7: I would recommend fluxbox
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skybox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <_kuja_> kde and gnome are pretty even in termins of speed, dragonfly7
[11:15] <DarkWizdom> ubotu doesn't know :(
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesn't know :( - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <_kuja_> !skydome
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skydome - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:16] <DarkWizdom> jajaj
[11:16] <nibi> murchadh_bhaba: thanks! i'll give it a try
[11:16] <dave_> ok i think i get it / to get to the directory
[11:16] <BrianSteffens> ubotu doesn't know, now i must find a new religion :(
[11:16] <dragonfly7> Captain_Redbeard: Isn't that even more primitive than XFCE?
[11:16] <matthew__> !flash > matthew
[11:16] <DarkWizdom> :D
[11:16] <_kuja_> BrianSteffens: googlism?
[11:16] <Captain_Redbeard> dragonfly7: I wouldn't say so no...
[11:16] <BrianSteffens> _kuja_ good call!
[11:16] <BluesKaj> ok, how does one remove a directory ?
[11:16] <Captain_Redbeard> dragonfly7: it's very nifty indeed, and very customizable
[11:16] <BrianSteffens> blueskaj rmdir
[11:16] <Captain_Redbeard> BluesKaj: rm -r directoryname
[11:16] <dragonfly7> Captain_Redbeard: To install it could I use "sudo apt-get install fluxbox-desktop"
[11:17] <Captain_Redbeard> dragonfly7: Hmm I'm not sure about the packagename to be honest with you, but it seems likely :)
[11:17] <MalfermitaKodo> ubotu apt
[11:17] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:17] <simen> Captain_redbeard : check this out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGNO2KM3GvA
[11:17] <_kuja_> the package would be fluxbox, not fluxbox-desktop
[11:17] <Captain_Redbeard> !life
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:18] <dragonfly7> _kuja_: Thanks.
[11:18] <Captain_Redbeard> ./cry
[11:18] <spitwise> anyone ppc users here?
[11:18] <BrianSteffens> haha [14:15]  <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[11:18] <MalfermitaKodo> ubotu apt-get
[11:18] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[11:18] <simen> Captain check it ! :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGNO2KM3GvA
[11:18] <simen> Captain check it ! :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGNO2KM3GvA
[11:18] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: ah yes
[11:18] <MalfermitaKodo> what was the command to make apt run after it crashed?
[11:19] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: it's XGL... I wouldn't recommend you trying it out though, it is still in development and fairly tricky to get up and running
[11:19] <matthew__> dave_, so sorry, but I've got to go...I'm at work right now.
[11:19] <_kuja_> !adeptfix
[11:19] <ubotu> If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[11:19] <dave_> ok thanks
[11:19] <BluesKaj> ok gone..thx BrianSteffens
[11:19] <simen> shiit :P
[11:19] <simen> do u know about any other cool things i can have on my dekstop then ? :P
[11:19] <DarkWizdom> beryl?
[11:20] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xgl
[11:20] <rich543> Hi, I have a .tar theme and was wondering how do I install it. (1 day new at this) Can't find a theme loader either
[11:20] <MalfermitaKodo> ty, _kuja_ !
[11:20] <_kuja_> yw
[11:20] <dave_> would anyone else be able to help me with flash?
[11:21] <Captain_Redbeard> Hrmz... upon booting the system... doesn't the BIOS screen usually show up on the telly if it's plugged in to the gfx card?
[11:21] <simen> Captain_Redbeard: Do u know about any cool things for my desktop that is user friendly ? :P
[11:22] <BrianSteffens> ok i know how to chown but how can i add permissions to a single user without changing the owner of that folder/file?
[11:22] <Captain_Redbeard> superkaramba?
[11:22] <simen> whats that ? ^^
[11:23] <dragonfly7> simen: They are desktop widget things, like Yahoo's.
[11:23] <simen> where do i download ?
[11:23] <Captain_Redbeard> simen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperKaramba
[11:23] <Captain_Redbeard> !superkaramba
[11:23] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[11:24] <_kuja_> simen: sudo apt-get install superkaramba
[11:24] <_kuja_> You can find superkaramba applets at kde-look.org
[11:24] <simen> ok
[11:24] <rich543> how do I install a theme thats in a .tar?
[11:25] <_kuja_> open up kcontrol, go to appearance -> themes, should be able to install themes from there, rich543
[11:25] <simen> where do i put the applets ?
[11:25] <_kuja_> simen: wherever you want
[11:25] <simen> k
[11:25] <simen> thanx
[11:26] <rich543> thanks kuja
[11:27] <BluesKaj> I'm making a list of shell commands and I'd like the script for updating the thr kubuntu Distro like the one jende showed me for updating to Edgy from Dapper , ...or is there (K)ubuntu page that has the script ?
[11:27] <_kuja_> whoa, spinning around a tranparent inside beryl-cube is insane
[11:27] <BluesKaj> _kuja_, get a life ! :)
[11:28] <_kuja_> BluesKaj: Are they expensive?
[11:28] <snaker2002> hola alguien espaol?
[11:28] <BluesKaj> depends ..if you have kids and a house and car etc ...it can be
[11:28] <BluesKaj> !es
[11:28] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[11:28] <snaker2002> gracias
[11:29] <Realistic_Dragon> dont suppose anyone here owns a tech company in the US do they? :P
[11:29] <matthew__> Realistic_Dragon, why do you ask?
[11:29] <BrianSteffens> how can i specify a usergroup when using chmod ?
[11:30] <DarkWizdom> it's aliiiiive! k3b works! better than expected! :)
[11:30] <matthew__> BrianSteffens, you can you chown to specify a username
[11:30] <Realistic_Dragon> got another job rejection because of ITAR matthew, need to get out of the defense industry :)
[11:30] <matthew__> ITAR?
[11:30] <matthew__> Realistic_Dragon, ITAR?
[11:30] <BrianSteffens> matthew__ so chown, then chmod to set permission for one person, then do it again for another person?
[11:31] <Realistic_Dragon> information transfer something or other, its restrictions on foreign nationals working on US defense projects :)
[11:31] <matthew__> matthew, naw, chown is to change the owner of the file/dir...chmod sets the permissions for the file/dir
[11:31] <matthew__> BrianSteffens,  naw, chown is to change the owner of the file/dir...chmod sets the permissions for the file/dir
[11:31] <matthew__> BrianSteffens, for all users, I think
[11:32] <matthew__> Realistic_Dragon, ah, that makes sense...
[11:32] <BrianSteffens> matthew__ so there is no way to set permissions different for different users?
[11:32] <CotRo|eR> How do you check whick ports you have opened with iptables or whatever it is???
[11:32] <matthew__> BrianSteffens, you can make the user part of a usergroup, and make the usergroup have certain permissions...
[11:32] <Realistic_Dragon> CotRo|eR: iptables -L
[11:32] <matthew__> CotRo|eR, calm down
[11:33] <Realistic_Dragon> CotRo|eR: might be easier to scan your comp from another machine though with nmap
[11:33] <BrianSteffens> matthew__ yeah that's what i'm asking, how do i specify a usergroup in the chmod command?
[11:33] <CotRo|eR> tnx :)
[11:33] <matthew__> BrianSteffens, not sure...lol, sorry!
[11:34] <BrianSteffens> matthew__ ok thanks anyway
[11:34] <CotRo|eR> Realistic_Dragon: hmm tried that, it only shows chain input, output, etc,
[11:34] <Realistic_Dragon> thats all you get really, you have to infer the rest... or test it
[11:34] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, Are you looking for chgrp?
[11:34] <_kuja_> !permission | BrainSteffens
[11:34] <ubotu> BrainSteffens: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[11:35] <Realistic_Dragon> or use something like firestarter which gives more information
[11:35] <_kuja_> I think guarddog is the kde equivalent, but I've never bothered ...
[11:36] <jimbo> I just hit a huge snag.  I have 3000+ files I copied from a windows server to my linux laptop, but I need the files in lowercase, as they're all uppercase.  Is tehre a batch renaming tool available to autorename all these?
[11:36] <Realistic_Dragon> jimbo: you can probably do it with a shell script :)
[11:37] <Realistic_Dragon> http://openchemist.net/linux/howto.php?id=com007
[11:37] <Realistic_Dragon> if you have no backup use that at your own risk
[11:37] <Realistic_Dragon> :P
[11:38] <BrianSteffens> muchadh_bhaba oo maybe i'll google it
[11:38] <_kuja_> jimbo: krename
[11:38] <matthew__> _kuja_, why have a guard dog protecting a castle? lol, you know?
[11:38] <BrianSteffens> _kuja_ yea man spring for the jaguar
[11:38] <statesidela> Can anyone tell me howto get into #ubuntu-xgl i am new to irc
[11:38] <_kuja_> matthew__: maybe it's a three headed guard dog that breaths fire?
[11:38] <statesidela> Please3
[11:39] <jimbo> thanks guys
[11:39] <_kuja_> Stalwart: /j #ubuntu-xgl
[11:39] <_kuja_> oops
[11:39] <_kuja_> statesidela:
[11:39] <_kuja_> meant....... darn
[11:39] <_kuja_> I guess my new toy the tab feature that is isn't case sensitive .... it should be
[11:40] <statesidela> ? you can help me kuja
[11:40] <_kuja_> possibly
[11:40] <ipfw> so, on one else has had issues writing to the KDE menu ?
[11:40] <Stalwart> =P
[11:40] <statesidela> how can i get into #ubuntu-xgl kuja?
[11:41] <BrianSteffens> statesidela /join #ubuntu-xgl?
[11:41] <dave_> is anyone able to help me installing flash?
[11:41] <statesidela> thatnk you Brian
[11:41] <Stalwart> statesidela: use good irc client, konversation is fine for kde
[11:41] <Realistic_Dragon> _kuja_: I know a sysadmin who used to have RM linked as RenaMe on his multiuser machine just to upset people who didnt understand CaSeSeNsItIvE ;)
[11:42] <_kuja_> hahahaha
[11:42] <statesidela> i am using kconvo
[11:42] <rich543> when I try sudo apt-get install SuperKaramba it says 'couldn't find package'
[11:42] <fdoving> rich543: try all lowercase letters.
[11:42] <Stalwart> Realistic_Dragon: http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/mundane-name
[11:43] <_kuja_> Realistic_Dragon: That's just brilliant .... I'd love to do something like that ... but I'm the only user of this machine :(
[11:43] <rich543> all lower case, still the same
[11:43] <_kuja_> rich543: funny, we were just talking about case sensitivity
[11:43] <Realistic_Dragon> slightly evil :P
[11:43] <bLaZeD> anyone know of a good newsgroup client.....so i can veiw and dl off binary newsgroups?
[11:43] <Stalwart> :D
[11:44] <Realistic_Dragon> bLaZeD: I use knode (in kontact) but not for binaries
[11:44] <Realistic_Dragon> lol Stalwart
[11:44] <bLaZeD> Realistic_Dragon, is it capable of doing binarys?
[11:44] <_kuja_> knode?
[11:44] <statesidela> man no one is in #ubuntu-xgl how can i find more help with some beryl troubles?
[11:44] <Realistic_Dragon> actually havent checked sorry bLaZeD i assume so, itll be installed any way so you can try it out :)
[11:44] <bLaZeD> !knode
[11:44] <ubotu> knode: KDE news reader. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1195 kB, installed size 2948 kB
[11:44] <_kuja_> try #beryl
[11:44] <Realistic_Dragon> otherwise try adept for 'news'
[11:44] <statesidela> ty
[11:45] <rich543> not sure what I can do otherwise, tried lowercase to
[11:45] <Realistic_Dragon> !kontact
[11:45] <ubotu> kontact: KDE pim application. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1574 kB, installed size 3400 kB
[11:45] <Realistic_Dragon> oh, thought it was a default install :)
[11:45] <bLaZeD> Realistic_Dragon, ahh k im actualy asking for a freind...maby i can find a free good newsgroup with some sorta binary
[11:45] <bLaZeD> but thanks guys :-)
[11:45] <ironfroggy_LT> how do i give a negated option to find?
[11:45] <_kuja_> rich543: superkaramba is in universe, I think
[11:45] <ironfroggy_LT> for example, im trying to filter out all files that have _darcs in the path
[11:45] <_kuja_> !universe | rich543
[11:45] <ubotu> rich543: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:46] <dennister> hey bLaZeD, _kuja_ :) anyone know how to insert url links in a wiki page real quick? brand new to this :)
[11:46] <Realistic_Dragon> bLaZeD: there are 167 different newsreaders available in the kubuntu repos ;)
[11:46] <BrianSteffens> ok i still don't have write access to my shared folder on server.. i've set up an smb user on the server, added it to group filestorage, chown the shared folder to usergroup filestorage, and chmod to +rwx
[11:46] <_kuja_> 167 ..... jeeze
[11:46] <_kuja_> overkill much?
[11:47] <Realistic_Dragon> !aub
[11:47] <ubotu> aub: Assembles binary files from USENET. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2 (edgy), package size 57 kB, installed size 196 kB
[11:47] <bLaZeD> Realistic_Dragon, hehe my freind is a noob and doesnt even know what distro he is using lol...so im kinda flying blnd here
[11:47] <bLaZeD> :)
[11:47] <Realistic_Dragon> !klibido
[11:47] <ubotu> klibido: usenet binary grabber for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.5-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 411 kB, installed size 1336 kB
[11:47] <Realistic_Dragon> try that on
[11:47] <Realistic_Dragon> e
[11:47] <bLaZeD> ahh hthanks!
[11:47] <hudsy> hii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:47] <_kuja_> hello again
[11:47] <Realistic_Dragon> lol _kuja_ it seems that half of those are emacs modes :D
[11:48] <BrianSteffens> hudsy seems awfully happy lol
[11:48] <hudsy> i have a question.... how to erase a folder with the console??
[11:48] <Stalwart> hudsy: rm -rf
[11:48] <hudsy> ok
[11:48] <_kuja_> or rmdir
[11:48] <hudsy> thanks
[11:48] <Realistic_Dragon> wait!
[11:48] <Realistic_Dragon> thats a nasty comand
[11:48] <hudsy> ...
[11:48] <Stalwart> rm -rf /
[11:49] <Stalwart> =P
[11:49] <Realistic_Dragon> check it before you hit enter
[11:49] <_kuja_> evil
[11:49] <hudsy> a've done rm
[11:49] <Realistic_Dragon> as it deleted with *no* confirmation
[11:49] <hudsy> but it says tat its a dyrectory
[11:49] <_kuja_> Don't do the rm -rf / .... ever
[11:49] <Realistic_Dragon> -rf forces it to ignore that
[11:49] <hudsy> ok
[11:49] <Realistic_Dragon> -r = recursive (into directories)
[11:49] <Realistic_Dragon> and -f is force
[11:50] <dennister> no one edits wiki pages here? i gotta be wrong in that...
[11:50] <_kuja_> rm -r = delete a folder and everything in it, -f forces it to do it with  no questions asked
[11:50] <Realistic_Dragon> its fine to use just be aware of what you are asking it to delete :)
[11:50] <_kuja_> dennister: I've edited one once, but that was weeks ago, and it was only once
[11:50] <Realistic_Dragon> you can use pwd to double check where you are
[11:50] <hudsy> you are the best!!
[11:50] <murchadh_bhaba> dennister, [[whateverlink] ] ?
[11:51] <dennister> ok...i've been avoiding it too :)
[11:51] <soulrider> hi everyone
[11:51] <_kuja_> hi soulrider
[11:51] <BrianSteffens> why is sudo chown brian:brian /media/storage -R doing nothing?
[11:51] <dennister> murchadh_bhaba: so I type the word that will show, then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=url?
[11:52] <dennister> oh shoot...meant <word showing> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=whateverurl?
[11:52] <dennister> lol...
[11:52] <Pana> lol
[11:53] <murchadh_bhaba> dennister, [[Thiswillshow|http://link.link.link] ]
[11:53] <dennister> ahhh...thank you! :)
[11:53] <Pana> hey guys
[11:53] <Pana> why do both windows and linux hate me
[11:53] <Pana> :(
[11:53] <dennister> not as much as they hate me, heheheh
[11:53] <BrianSteffens> pana windows hates everyone
[11:54] <shaggs> windows hates me
[11:54] <_kuja_> without discrimination
[11:54] <Pana> true
[11:54] <Pana> so
[11:54] <dennister> that's because we're all pirates :)
[11:54] <Pana> I am an linuckz noob
[11:54] <shaggs> and i hate windows
[11:54] <_kuja_> Arrr
[11:54] <BrianSteffens> pana and linux needs you to romance it a lot before it will like you
[11:54] <shaggs> but it is still necesarry
[11:54] <Pana> I  have had it installed for a while but am only using it now because windows kicked me in the balls
[11:54] <dbglt> hrmm, for what reason are packages 'kept back'? I'm using fiery, and packages like openoffice are kept back when I upgrade. IS there a way to find out why?
[11:55] <Pana> dso
[11:55] <BrianSteffens> !pastebin
[11:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:55] <Pana> how do i install all the multimedia packages
[11:55] <Pana> erm
[11:55] <Pana> like mp3 wmv playback and such
[11:55] <Pana> -_-
[11:55] <_kuja_> Pana: piece of cake
[11:55] <Pana> yea
[11:55] <_kuja_> !multimedia | Pana
[11:55] <ubotu> Pana: For multimedia codecs see: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html and for applications see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[11:55] <Pana> piece of coding cake
[11:55] <BrianSteffens> can someone help me figure out what i'm doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/38171/
[11:55] <_kuja_> !mp3 | Pana
[11:55] <ubotu> Pana: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:55] <Pana> OH GOD
[11:55] <Pana> k
[11:56] <Pana> if linux rapes me
[11:56] <Pana> I blame you
[11:56] <_kuja_> You do that.
[11:57] <Schuenemann> LjL: hey, you told me to ask you for the boot fix :-]
[11:57] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, Try sudo chown -R brian /media/storage
[11:57] <LjL> Schuenemann: right, sure. one moment, i'll grep the logs
[11:58] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba same thing T_T
[11:58] <Schuenemann> thanks
[11:58] <hudsy> and an other..(excuse me...i do 100000 because i am noob) how to move a file or directory from a folder to an other??
[11:59] <BrianSteffens> murcadh_bhaba hm, just tried sudo mkdir hi and it returned no error but didn't create the directory either
[11:59] <BrianSteffens> hudsy: mv
[11:59] <hudsy> and select the directory??
[12:00] <BrianSteffens> hudsy oh, in konqueror?
[12:00] <hudsy> but it says i havnt permision
[12:00] <Schuenemann> type kdesu konqueror
[12:00] <Schuenemann> then try to move again
[12:00] <LjL> Schuenemann: sudo dosfsck -ar /dev/whatever-the-right-partition-is (the FAT one)
[12:00] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, Can you cd to root, and run the commands with full paths, just to be sure. First off let's check current permissions, ls -als /media
[12:01] <fenerbahche> i have difficulties to understand display event, we have x,kdm,kde etc....anybody help me to understand relation it...
[12:01] <Schuenemann> LjL: the partition that has the boot?
[12:01] <LjL> Schuenemann: when it asks, tell it to replace the backup with the original, *unless* it gives you some strange messages, in which case hold
[12:01] <hudsy> failed to open device
[12:01] <Schuenemann> I mean grub installed
[12:01] <hudsy> failed to open device
[12:01] <LjL> Schuenemann: no, just the partition that has a FAT filesystem on it
[12:01] <Schuenemann> the FAT is in another HD
[12:01] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba: storage comes up as 4 drwxr-xr-x 4 root filestorage
[12:01] <Schuenemann> which isn't the master
[12:02] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, Is this a partition on a drive?
[12:03] <Pana> how do i enable multiverse with adept
[12:03] <Pana> it doesnt say in the guide
[12:03] <hudsy> i'm trying to install java but i m desesperated
[12:03] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba: yes, /dev/hda1 is mounted to /media/storage
[12:03] <hudsy> !!
[12:03] <Schuenemann> LjL: you said copy original to backup?
[12:03] <hudsy> !!
[12:03] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, And /ev/hda1 is a type ?
[12:04] <fenerbahche> !kde
[12:04] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[12:04] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba a type? i don't understand
[12:04] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, ntfs, fat32, ext3
[12:04] <VSpike> I'm a long time Outlook user, and I have a lot of contacts, mail and tasks stored in Outlook.  I also have a Pocket PC (Windows) that I need to sync with my PIM. At the moment I am running VMWare w/ WinXP just to use Outlook.  Have I got any chance of migrating?
[12:05] <LjL> Schuenemann: "overwrite the backup with the original", i think it goes
[12:05] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba: ext3
[12:05] <LjL> i.e., yes, copy original to backup
[12:05] <Schuenemann> sorry, bad english
[12:05] <Pana> ok
[12:05] <Pana> how do i get synaptic instead of adept onto Kubuntu
[12:06] <glglglfkfksaj> Pana, "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[12:06] <Pana> alright
[12:06] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, What options are in /etc/fstab for it?
[12:06] <Schuenemann> it's done, thank you
[12:06] <VSpike> I was thinking about Crossover Office, but I don't think I will be able to sync with the PPC then
[12:06] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba: defaults, errors=remount-ro
[12:07] <nontitle> Vspike, there should be a program that syncs with the pocketPC
[12:07] <Pana> unable to  get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock open
[12:07] <nontitle> Vspike, just use synaptic or adept and search pocketpc or ppc
[12:07] <VSpike> nontitle: probably not from Outlook running on WINE though
[12:07] <nontitle> ...oh.
[12:07] <VSpike> nontitle: there are some which sync with kmail and/or evolution I think#
[12:08] <nontitle> yeah, thats what i mean
[12:08] <VSpike> nontitle: I have installed them to experiment, although none of them seem to want to work right away without some fiddling
[12:08] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, You could try adding umask=000, after defaults. umount the drive, mount the drive, try again.
[12:08] <nontitle> kind of like using gtkpod instead of iTunes
[12:08] <VSpike> nontitle: I'm not sure how easily I can migrate the data to kmail or evolution though
[12:08] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba: so defaults,umask=000,errors=remount-ro?
[12:08] <nontitle> i'm not sure either
[12:09] <VSpike> I think I can do mail and contacts by going via Thunderbird for windows, which uses an mbox format
[12:09] <nontitle> Pana, you're sure apt isn't running?
[12:09] <hudsy> restart X
[12:09] <murchadh_bhaba> BrianSteffens, Yes, then save it, sudo umount /dev/hda1, sudo mount /dev/hda1, try and create a file or directory.
[12:10] <hudsy> pana: restart X ( ctrl+alt+backspace)
[12:11] <yelonek> !spore
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <ipfw> what file(s) does kde store its K menu settings in ?
[12:12] <Schuenemann> !k
[12:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:12] <BrianSteffens> murchadh_bhaba after adding umask=000 the drive appears not to be mounted when i restarted