[00:00] <OerHeks> :-)
[00:00] <josephpagoda-lap> where I can make the bug report that users should be part of the input group by default now?
[00:00] <josephpagoda-lap> because that seems like a more sane default configuration than not having them be part of the input group
[00:00] <OerHeks> !bug
[00:00] <josephpagoda-lap> that will also make things like joysticks and gamepads happier
[00:00] <josephpagoda-lap> i don't know what package this would be for though
[00:01] <OerHeks> against the mtrack package  i think https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-mtrack
[00:02] <OerHeks> Josephpagoda-lap maybe this guy suffers the same https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-mtrack/+bug/1445642
[00:03] <OerHeks> as Newer versions of Xorg are rootless, they do not have permission to access input devices by default.
[00:04] <eggggs> hello all
[00:17] <j_bro> Hello
[00:28] <allen__> Ubuntu Mate 16.04 installation hangs indefinitely at timezone area when I went to type a new location... it is supposed to deleting partitions and formatting new ones in the background so I don't want to just shut off power. But nothing is happening. What should I do??
[00:28] <pilne> i'm guessing using the server(cli selection) iso and then installing fluxbox would be the "mostest minimalist" way of doing it? (also same for i3?)
[00:31] <allen__> anyone?
[00:32] <Hydr0p0nX> allen__ how long has it been frozen ?
[00:34] <allen__> 15 min
[00:35] <Skaag> is there really no simple way to have both python 2.x and python 3.x coexisting in peace in ubuntu 14.04 via repo?
[00:35] <Skaag> must I really install one of them from source?
[00:36] <teward> Skaag: uh, what?>
[00:36] <teward> Skaag: I have both python 2 and python 3 installed in Trusty; they're different entities stored differently if you're installing from the repos?
[00:37] <k1l> Skaag: that sounds like you have some 3rd party packages mess?
[00:37] <k1l> Skaag: 14.04 ships 2.7 and 3  in different packages already. what is your exact issue?
[00:38] <teward> Skaag: as k1l said :p
[00:38]  * teward is lagging badly
[01:00] <Cyber_Akuma> If I install Ubuntu to a single drive, and then later add other drives to my system that have their own MBR, will Ubuntu overwrite that MBR if I update grub?
[01:02] <Skaag> well, when I installed 2.7 it was fine, and apt had no errors initially... I used the alternatives to make 3.4 the default, with 2.7 2nd
[01:02] <Skaag> trouble started when I tried to install pip for 2.x
[01:02] <pilne> anytime you do python development, you should probably setup a virtualenv
[01:02] <pilne> just little scripts for yourself it's generally ok to use the system python
[01:04] <dbz2k> does somebody know a script that will stop apps from taking all my cpu
[01:04] <Skaag> those are the packages I have installed, at the moment: https://gist.github.com/skaag/6dc2739819a26a406301caa2ce36dafb
[01:04] <Skaag> dbz2k: ionice -c3 {script}
[01:04] <dbz2k> when I my computer gets 100% percent cpu usage it freezes
[01:06] <Skaag> and this is my 'apt-get -f install' output: https://gist.github.com/skaag/3ce5b4c1f04ebfe580d75eccc157ccd0
[01:06] <Skaag> I don't know how to get rid of that
[01:06] <dbz2k> Skaag, will cpulimit survive reboots?
[01:07] <pilne> windoze often went to 100% cpu for me randomly, linux only does it when i'm expecting it in my experiences
[01:08] <Arcaire> lol people saying 'windoze' in the year of our lord two thousand and one score minus four anno domini
[01:10] <pilne> hey, i fart dust... i think i'm grandfathered in, literally.
[01:10] <Skaag> oh man
[01:12] <Bashing-om> Cyber_Akuma: Separate drives have individual boot code . so no .. installing another drive will not effect the boot code on the 1st drive .
[01:13] <Skaag> ok found the issue...
[01:13] <Skaag> you can't make 3.4 the default python, with update-alternatives
[01:13] <Skaag> since apt relies heavily on it
[01:13] <Skaag> if you do that, all goes to hell
[01:13] <teward> Skaag: that's also in line with Python's policies for distributions shipping both
[01:14] <teward> that python2 should remain the default until otherwise stated
[01:14] <Skaag> so I made 2.7 the default, and suddenly apt works
[01:14] <teward> at least according to their docs on the latest versions
[01:14] <Cyber_Akuma> Bashing-om, Dosent' it by default install it's own MBR so that grub will load when you install Ubuntu though?
[01:14] <Skaag> wish I knew this before I wasted 5 minute of my life
[01:16] <Bashing-om> Cyber_Akuma: Well .. yes and no . In a default " erase disk and install ubuntu ' the default is to install the boot loader to the 1st hard drive . - one could remove that drive to preclude writting to it .. .. or set up the partitioning manually .. and in the maunaul method .. one can direct where the boot code is installed to .
[01:29] <Ghostly> Hello, anyone had experience with upgrading to windows 10 on a dual boot machine?
[01:31] <Ghostly> Thing is that i tried upgrading and now my grub is in rescue mode and for some odd reason i can't find my old ubuntu partition.
[01:34] <Lothenon> Ghostly: for repairing Grub try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:35] <Rexodus> Lothenon: partition is gone...
[01:36] <Lothenon> really? Then you have to install Ubuntu again. Hope you have a backup of your data
[01:36] <bipul> Hi
[01:37] <Ghostly> Lothenon, thanks for the link.
[01:38] <Lothenon> yw
[01:39] <compute> how do you arase the history comments?
[01:39] <teward> Ghostly: I wouldn't put it past Windows 10 to snarf up the entire disk; it is Windows after all.  if the partition is gone though, you'll have to resize Windows 10 and reinstall Ubuntu
[01:39] <teward> compute: what "history comments"?
[01:41] <compute> press the up and down keyboard
[01:41] <teward> in what?  Terminal?
[01:41] <teward> a third party program?
[01:41] <Ghostly> teward, i honestly kind of expected that, I was a bit silly thinking that it would leave my other os alone. Fortunately at least for now it has not eaten my unimportant ntsf partition with some junk on it XD
[01:42] <teward> compute: you need to give more specifics and details, like "what history, in what program" for example
[01:42] <teward> compute: there's at least fifty 'histories' on a system depending on the setups
[01:42] <teward> Ghostly: to be honest, Windows 10 can't recognize Linux partitions
[01:42] <teward> it could be a case that it read it as free space and autoexpanded.
[01:43] <Ghostly> makes sense.
[01:43] <teward> Ghostly: in any case, though, that explains the grub failures, it's looking for a nonexistent partition :/
[01:43] <compute> I'm using irssi
[01:43] <compute> xD
[01:44] <teward> compute: then you mean the irssi commands history
[01:44] <teward> ?
[01:44] <teward> I think closing irssi and reopening it is the only way to clear that
[01:44] <compute> In that program
[01:44] <compute> xD
[01:44] <fabricio> alguem do brasa?
[01:44] <somsip>  !br | fabricio
[01:45] <fabricio> to com um problema de funcionamento no meu compiz fusion
[01:49] <compute> teward: I'm using irssi program...
[01:49] <jackcom> i log in utuntu with ssh, and i excute some command that show me continueous text, but i closed connection by mistake. so i want reconnect ubuntu with ssh again. but i can’t see previous screen. then how can i do?
[01:49] <teward> compute: i understand that.  The only way to get rid of the irssi history is to /quit and then reopen irssi
[01:49] <teward> at least, that's the only way I'm aware of to clear that
[01:50] <compute> Thanks
[01:50] <pennTeller> Is there a channel for ubungu GNOME?
[01:50] <pennTeller> ubuntu*
[01:53] <Givonne> pennTeller according to the docs there is #ubuntu-gnome   i never used it
[01:54] <jackcom> i log in utuntu with ssh, and i excute some command that show me continueous text, but i closed connection by mistake. so i  reconnect ubuntu with ssh again. but i can’t see previous screen. then how can i do?
[01:54] <jackcom> how can i see previous screen?
[01:54] <somsip> !tmux | jackcom (commands terminate on disconnection when sshing normally)
[01:54] <somsip> !info tmux | jackcom (commands terminate on disconnection when sshing normally)
[02:16] <superguest> I am currently running on an old ubuntu livecd session and have  downloaded and *mounted*  the 16.04.iso
[02:18] <superguest> is there a way to load the livecd installer within the currentlu running livecd session?
[02:18] <teward> superguest: no.
[02:18] <teward> superguest: you have to boot to the 16.04 livecd to get to its installer.  simply mounting it in the older livecd won't help you
[02:18] <superguest> i only have have one usb.
[02:19] <teward> then go buy a DVD and burn the ISO to the DVD?
[02:19] <teward> or overwrite the usb stick.  or go get another one somewhere, USB sticks are pretty dirt cheap nowadays
[02:21] <superguest> i cannot create a bootable usb, as  the resource is busy, since currently running (old) livecd session is running off the target.
[02:22] <eggggs> install old version  then  install new  if its all you got]
[02:22] <teward> superguest: and you have no other OS to boot to to create the LiveUSB?
[02:24] <superguest> fuck it i’ll install grub and then loopmount the iso
[02:24] <Bashing-om> superguest: I do not know how it will work out in 16.04 .. but there is : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-allow booting/installing an .iso directly from the hard drive.
[02:31] <winston2k> good evening anyone
[02:31] <Nickelback> What key do i have to press to have compiz cube?
[02:31] <Nickelback> I use Ubuntu-Mate
[02:32] <winston2k> do you have compiz config manager installed?
[02:33] <winston2k> need that the settings are there
[02:33] <Nickelback> compizconfig-settings-manager?
[02:33] <winston2k> yes
[02:34] <winston2k> i have mate and i had to install it
[02:36] <winston2k> using compiz desktop cube right now with rotation
[02:37] <winston2k> you have to goto mate tweak and change compositor to compiz before it will work
[02:37] <Nickelback> what do i have to type to have a cube?
[02:38] <winston2k> you need to add workplace switcher to your panel
[02:39] <winston2k> changing workplaces/desktops rotates cube
[02:40] <winston2k> the compiz manager should show you the key bindings
[02:40] <Nickelback> viewport switcher?
[02:42] <winston2k> no, workplace switcher that you add to panel provides multiple desktops
[02:42] <winston2k> right click on panel
[02:43] <winston2k> add to panel
[02:44] <tominator> Could one of you direct me to help for clonezilla?
[02:46] <tominator> where can I get help for clonezilla?
[02:46] <tominator> or info
[02:47] <winston2k> tominator try #clonezilla
[02:48] <tominator> thanks
[02:49] <tominator> I'll try it; I would like to have an EFI boot partition and a regular BIOS partition on the same drive, so that I can move the drive freely between computers
[02:52] <tominator> Can I use clonezilla to copy a drive, but also insert an EFI partition?
[02:55] <Nickelback> the cube doesn't work
[02:56] <teward> tominator: clonezilla does a good job of cloning drives, but it doesn't do a good job of modifying the drive image to add partitions that didn't exist when the image was taken
[02:56] <teward> tominator: however, the channel #clonezilla is better for those types of questions
[02:57] <tominator> teward: Thanks for the info. Nobody seems to be on that channel :P
[02:59] <Barones>  help msg
[02:59] <winston2k> nickelback did you goto matetweak and change compositor to compiz?
[03:00] <winston2k> if you review my steps in sequence they should enable cube
[03:00] <Nickelback> It works!
[03:01] <winston2k> yay
[03:01] <Nickelback> I did it again
[03:01] <Nickelback> i changed the compositor and use compziz again
[03:01] <Nickelback> xD
[03:01] <winston2k> awesome
[03:07] <vdominesatanus> Hello?
[03:07] <K-arch> hello
[03:07] <winston2k> hello
[03:07] <vdominesatanus> How is everyone?
[03:07] <evanlinjin> Good.
[03:07] <K-arch> bad
[03:08] <winston2k> 5 by 5
[03:09] <winston2k> k-arch why bad?
[03:14] <K-arch> Oh I have my computer tower on the floor next to my desk and my dog pee-ed right inside of it, allot too, I'm jest looking at it like man that's going to be a pain to clean up
[03:15] <K-arch> K-arch:  Oh I have my computer tower on the floor next to my desk and my dog pee-ed right inside of it, allot too, I'm jest looking at it like man that's going to be a pain to clean up
[03:15] <CloudWalker> i need help getting zoneminder cgi-bin folder to work
[03:15] <CloudWalker> instead of executing the cgi-bin folder gets downloaded when i try to execute
[03:16] <cryonicandroid> helloooooo
[03:16] <CloudWalker> trying to use ScriptAlias in apache config
[03:26] <indransyah> exit
[03:39] <learner__> hi guys, i'm running ubuntu 14.04 I installed network manager and the pptp plugin, I created a pptp vpn, but when i click to activate it, nothing happens, not even a log in syslog
[03:39] <learner__> what should i do
[03:40] <dirty> repeated question I asked in #ubuntu-server ;; on server how do I manually install security updates on a one time basis, I do not want it automated with unattended-upgrades for a couple local policy reasons
[03:40] <dirty> damn it... s/,/?/
[03:41] <somsip> dirty: http://askubuntu.com/questions/194/how-can-i-install-just-security-updates-from-the-command-line (last suggestion from second answer down)
[03:42] <dirty> somsip: thanks buddy
[03:42] <CloudWalker> my zoneminder cgi scripts work now i think
[03:42] <CloudWalker> but my monitors show red output instead of video feed
[03:42] <CloudWalker> anyone know why?
[03:43] <somsip> CloudWalker: this doesn't seem to be an ubuntu issue - more like one with your scripts or the setting-up of them
[03:43] <CloudWalker> true
[03:59] <Bomber4Chats> If I want to properly install Windows 10 to dual boot with Ubuntu, I should install Windows 10 without UEFI (rather with legacy), right?
[04:01] <dax> Bomber4Chats: it doesn't matter
[04:02] <dax> the main support issue for Linux distros is Secure Boot, not UEFI. theoretically Ubuntu works with Secure Boot enabled, but eh.
[04:02] <dax> apart from that, just install Windows first and Ubuntu second and it should be very simple
[04:05] <SailorMoon> Stupid question, When booting Ubuntu from a Live USB, can i access said USB?
[04:06] <PigeonWhisperer> SailorMoon, yeah it should show up as a mounted drive
[04:14] <eckseption> ay
[04:14] <drama> ya
[04:15] <reisio> aye
[04:15] <reisio> yea
[04:18] <stacks88> running ubuntu 14.04 - my server4.mydomain.com , the bandwidth is maxed out. people are downloading directly off its apache. so its doing 1gbit/sec right now.. if i type ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>uptime (to try to run the uptime command without logging in), it just sits there.. stalling forever...... but if i take off 'uptime' and just ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>it logs in right away.
[04:18] <stacks88> does anyone know what this means ? it has to do with the bandwidth being maxed out for sure, but why can i log in normally but i cant run commands without logging into this said-box ? Or.. if i do log in normally to server4.mydomain.com , FROM the machine, i cant seem to make outgoign connections to the mysql server. e.g i run mysql -u user -h mysql.mydomain.com -p and after i enter in the pw
[04:18] <stacks88> it just sits there. Simiarily, if i type *from within server4.mydomain.com* : ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>uptime - it doesnt go anywhere. but once i take off the uptime, it logs in.. i feel like theres got to be some setting in /proc or sysctl that i can change, tahts network related, socket related or connection related, to alleviate the situation ?
[04:21] <nimelis> :D
[04:21] <nimelis> Hi ?
[04:21] <nimelis> anybody here?
[04:21] <nimelis> hello
[04:21] <reisio> nimelis: ohai
[04:21] <guest5351> how to get a user name in freenode ??
[04:22] <nimelis> I dont know, this is the very first time I'm using Ubuntu
[04:22] <nimelis> haha
[04:22] <nimelis> How long does it take to install?.... It's been a while now
[04:23] <Bashing-om> !register | guest5351
[04:26] <asif> hi
[04:26] <asif> how to register ??
[04:26] <asif> my nick is now asif
[04:26] <reisio> asif: /msg nikserv help register
[05:04] <SailorMoon> if ubuntu live updates, thats just temporary in ram, right?
[05:04] <Wavesonics> guys, im losing my mind
[05:04] <Wavesonics> im writing a shell script, and if I execute a particular command
[05:04] <Wavesonics> USBINFO=$(/sbin/blkid)
[05:04] <Wavesonics> it then runs everything from that point on in the file multiple times
[05:04] <Wavesonics> HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE
[05:06] <Bashing-om> SailorMoon: Correct . Only exist in ram and will not persist a reboot .
[05:12] <user___> Hi , I want create new shortcut in kde 5 for running script file How I can do this ?
[05:29] <moza> Hello, I need help getting my sound back after a motherboard change and an alsa reinstall (thought it would fix it, but now I don't have a /proc/asound anymore. Here is more info : http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=797c0491442d901ac5050e04ba157b1758d290c2
[05:45] <bigdissaved> Hey
[05:45] <griffin> Hi everyone! I just got a Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga 11e, and I'm trying to figure out how to tell when the screen is rotated
[05:46] <bigdissaved> Bashing-om: Hey!
[06:01]  * bigdissaved goes to the vending machine in room and grabs a Dr Pepper
[06:01]  * bigdissaved goes and sits on the couch, waiting for somone to wake up...
[06:01]  * bigdissaved stares at walls
[06:02] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: I return . What it be like now ?
[06:03] <bigdissaved> it is all good so far. I wanted you to know. :)
[06:03] <bigdissaved> still have a few apps to install, printer, adobe reader, etc...
[06:04] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: Nuclear solution works again :)
[06:05] <bigdissaved> with dkms, I have it build my wireless modules on kernel update... at 4.4.0  if a 4.4.5 or 4.5.0 comes down the pipe, do I have to update dkms settings? Just wondering
[06:06] <bigdissaved> and with armagedin on the drive.... I did it last time to 15.4, and it worked for a day, then the graphics did that, with stock vod modules
[06:07] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: I really do not know with wireless drivers .. DKMS is "supposed" to deal with it .. but ........
[06:08] <bigdissaved> ok, I can do it manually.... and it is easy.... make clean all install, and depmod... done
[06:08] <bigdissaved> just nice to not have to worry about it every kern update
[06:10] <jtreminio> Howdy y'all. Does anyone know what syntax keepalived's config files are in? Here's an example of it https://dpaste.de/PtmW
[06:10] <jtreminio> I need to programatically edit the config file but unsure if there's an existing parser for it
[06:11] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: In the Nvidia driver build, one has to explicitly opt into DKMS . Do not know  about wireless .  I suspect it might be similar .
[06:14] <bigdissaved> I did it manually ish..
[06:15] <asif> hi
[06:17] <asif> how can i access guest account files from my account
[06:21]  * ron__ a un reve, c'est que ubuntu fonctionne un jour :x
[06:21] <ron__> salut tous le monde
[06:33] <Bashing-om> !fr | ron__
[06:35] <Bashing-om> My end of session .. G nite .
[06:36] <Mikerhinos> is there a way to prevent Evolution from running on startup ? It uses some memory for nothing, because I never use it (and the only thing I have in my autostartup menu is Nvidia server settings)
[06:36] <Mikerhinos> gn
[06:53] <tenranges> Hello.
[06:53] <tenranges> militaries
[06:53] <tenranges> When I type that word my Ubuntu tells me it's a spelling mistake?
[06:56] <LordSesshomaru> hey guys, I'm using ubuntu as a quick and dirty NAT firewall and its decided not to resolve addresses for a few computers on the network, was never a problem till I migrated servers recently.
[07:15] <radar_> hello?
[07:15] <radar_> how can I join any other channel?
[07:16] <sandwitch> /join #channelname
[07:16] <LordSesshomaru> hey guys, I'm using ubuntu as a quick and dirty NAT firewall and its decided not to resolve addresses for a few computers on the network, was never a problem till I migrated servers recently.
[07:19] <nomic> LordSesshomaru ask also on ubuntu forums, relevant section, networking - forums is very busy
[07:20] <nomic> formulate posting, all the information
[07:20] <LordSesshomaru> nomic: ok
[07:20] <nomic> cos it isn't exactly peak hour here -- when it is ... it is a very specific q.
[07:29] <DevAntoine> hi
[08:11] <Amritpal> I am the server admin of ubuntu and I want to check which user use how much cpu
[08:11] <Amritpal> is there any command
[08:11] <Amritpal> in ubuntu
[08:14] <somsip> Amritpal: a starting point http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/88613/how-is-it-possible-to-sort-ps-commands-cpu-field
[08:14] <Fuchs> aramlow: w
[08:14] <Fuchs> sorry, mistab
[08:14] <Fuchs> Amritpal: w
[08:24] <LonelyDanbo> how do I create a file in /usr/bin/ ? sudo mousepad is giving errors that I'm not sure if I can safely ignore.
[08:24] <somsip> LonelyDanbo: best practise would be not to. gksudo might be what you need to avoid sudo errors though
[08:25] <Baurin> hi
[08:25] <lyze> LonelyDanbo, which error?
[08:25] <somsip> LonelyDanbo: better to create in /usr/local/bin or even ~/bin depending on who will use it
[08:25] <ducasse> LonelyDanbo: if you want to add a local binary/script, use /usr/local/bin
[08:25] <LonelyDanbo> hm... what's best practice for making a script to run from my toolbar then?
[08:25] <somsip> LonelyDanbo: put it somewhere in your path. No need to be in global path
[08:25] <moza> I am trying to get my sound back. Apparently the daily build for alsa that I would like to try is failed. Do you know where I could get the latest previous daily? https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/alsa-daily/+packages  http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=797c0491442d901ac5050e04ba157b1758d290c2
[08:26] <LonelyDanbo> in my path?
[08:26] <ducasse> LonelyDanbo: 'echo $PATH'
[08:27] <LonelyDanbo> echo $PATH: command not found
[08:28] <ducasse> LonelyDanbo: don't type the '
[08:28] <LonelyDanbo> I tried it the first time without quotes and it stalled.
[08:28] <enesgunce> hi
[08:28] <LonelyDanbo> oh. now it's working. strange.
[08:29] <enesgunce> who are u
[08:29] <somsip> !ot | enesgunce
[08:29] <Norux> hi guys, short question: how do I burn an iso to an usb stick?
[08:29] <ducasse> LonelyDanbo: that is your users path. you can see /usr/local/bin in already in there, so the shell will find any executable files there.
[08:30] <lyze> Norux, should it be bootable?
[08:30] <Norux> lyze: yes
[08:30] <LonelyDanbo> hm. same error trying to sudo mousepad in usr/local/bin . I guess I need to try gksudo
[08:30] <k1l> Norux: german? (looking at your ip) then read this guide https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Live-USB/
[08:30] <somsip> LonelyDanbo: yes, that's why I said to use gksudo
[08:30] <LonelyDanbo> hm. not installed. how did I get this previous .sh file written without it?
[08:31] <ducasse> LonelyDanbo: why not create the file elsewhere and copy it across with sudo later?
[08:31] <lyze> !info usb-creator-gtk | Norux
[08:31] <lyze> Norux, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[08:32] <LonelyDanbo> ok. I'll see if that works...
[08:32] <Norux> lyze: thanks, it works ;)
[08:33] <Amritpal> Fuchs,  w - Show who is logged on and what they are doing. But I need how much capacity of cpu used by different users.
[08:33] <ShekharReddy> how can i start mongo on ubuntu 14.04
[08:33] <ShekharReddy> service is started but how can i access the db
[08:33] <Fuchs> Arcaire: w should also show CPU, if you need more: you can use ps
[08:33] <ShekharReddy> inside it
[08:33] <Fuchs> see the link above
[08:34] <ducasse> Amritpal: read the man page, look for 'JCPU'.
[08:34] <LonelyDanbo> ok. I also need to set execution permission on the file as well, right? something +x ?
[08:34] <lyze> LonelyDanbo, chmod u+x <file>
[08:35] <LonelyDanbo> what's the 'u' for?
[08:35] <lyze> user
[08:35] <ducasse> LonelyDanbo: you probably want to use 'chmod +x
[08:35] <ducasse> LonelyDanbo: 'chmod +x', sorry. execute for all.
[08:36] <LonelyDanbo> ok, thanks.
[08:36] <Crackpotmark> How can I force purge a broken cgroupfs-mount?
[08:37] <bond_> hey,guys
[08:37] <Crackpotmark> the normal force purge fails because it fails to stop the service (even though its not actually running)
[08:57] <kaliba> little question: when i use a long password for my server LCRT (Linux control remote tool) does not accept the password. i think its to long. can anyone help me?
[08:58] <Zta77> In Ubuntu 14.04 I launch ccsm > Window Mangement > Scale > Bindings, and bind "<Super>Escape" to Initiate Window Picker. But it doesn't work. Is this standard behavior?  It's annoying.
[08:59] <auronandace|work> Zta77: if you are using unity then you can see the default keyboard bindings by holding the win key
[09:03] <Zta77> auronandace|work: I know. And my newly assigned key combination will also show up. But it still doesn't work.
[09:17] <zaki> need help
[09:19] <Spookan> zaki: With? We dont read minds in here.
[09:20] <zaki> Verification of your TeamViewer version failed! TeamViewer will quit for security reasons. Please reinstall TeamViewer
[09:20] <zaki> after installing teamviewer,when i tried to open it, it gives me this error.
[09:21] <zaki> hey Spookan !
[09:28] <ducasse> zaki: talk to the people behind teamviewer
[09:28] <zaki> where?
[09:28] <ducasse> zaki: wherever you got it from.
[09:28] <lyze> zaki, https://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/
[09:29] <DSD> hellp
[09:29] <brunch875> Doesn't that simply mean that your teamviewer is updated and you should update it?
[09:30] <zaki> tryed with latest version.
[09:30] <DSD> ./exit
[09:31] <brunch875> Did you try reinstalling it like the message says?
[09:35] <zaki> yap, brunch875
[09:35] <zaki> but nothing happened.
[09:35]  * brunch875 shrugs 😖
[09:36] <bazhang> contact teamviewer as suggested then zaki
[09:41] <zaki> bazhang, (y)
[09:44] <bpb> Please help me! Any amount helps! I'm going to be homeless unless I have $500 by Wednesday! Here's my bitcoin address: 1PZGpx9MqpiEF951d6dRYVirFMZyQdBk7B
[09:45] <bazhang> wrong channel bpb
[09:47] <thebastl> hi, i'm building a script based on bluetoothctl and i want to get rid of all the [NEW],[UPD],[CHG] messages on the output. someone here knows how to disable them?
[09:48] <bpb> Please help me! Any amount helps! I'm going to be homeless unless I have $500 by Wednesday! Here's my bitcoin address: 1PZGpx9MqpiEF951d6dRYVirFMZyQdBk7B
[09:48] <Spookan> bpb: Get a job?
[09:48] <bpb> Spookan: in 2 days?!
[09:48] <bazhang> stop asking here bpb
[09:49] <bpb> i'm trying my best
[09:49] <ppf> i'm on 14.04, wish to upgrade to 16.04 lts. release-upgrades are configured to be lts-only. if i run do-release-upgrade it tells me there's no new release.
[09:49] <bpb> please any amount help
[09:49] <bpb> helps
[09:51] <ppf> is 16.04 not marked as an lts release? why else might do-release-upgrade not find it?
[09:51] <k1l> !ltsupgrade  | ppf
[09:52] <ppf> k1l: alright, ty
[09:52] <k1l> ppf: if you still want to upgrade before its officially opened on the LTS path you need the -d switch for the development upgrade
[09:53] <ppf> how stable is that?
[09:54] <k1l> if you ware concerned about stableness then dont run things labeled as "development" :)
[09:58] <ppf> :)
[09:58] <ppf> until juli, is there a backport/ppa of a recent cmake?
[09:59] <steven> morning, whats the forciest way to remove a package
[10:00] <steven> like, the killall -9 way of removing one
[10:00] <abhishek_> hi
[10:01] <abhigenie92> Any suggestions to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1589006/comments/25
[10:07] <gvs77> Hi, I just installed an Ubuntu 16.04 server, want to have it connect with  openvpn to my network.  On 14.04 I just put a conf file in /etc/openvpn and restarted the service, but that no longer works?
[10:08] <ikonia> it works fine
[10:08] <ikonia> if you put the right config file in the right place openvpn will pickup the config
[10:08] <gvs77> ikonia
[10:08] <gvs77> ikonia: I have a standard .ovpn file that I renamed to .conf
[10:09] <ikonia> thats a client file
[10:09] <gvs77> That config file worked on 14.04
[10:09] <ikonia> not a server file normally
[10:09] <gvs77> ikonia: correct, the ubunut 16.04 is a client to my openvpn server
[10:09] <ikonia> then what service are you restarting ?
[10:09] <ikonia> as the client is "on demand" not a service
[10:10] <gvs77> ikonia: I see two services with systemd, openvpn and openvpn@, google pointed me to the @ as the client service.
[10:10] <gvs77> ikonia: According to google, I should be able to systemctl openvpn@configfile start
[10:11] <ikonia> systemctl is nothing to do with openvpn or systemd
[10:12] <ikonia> sorry - I worded that a mess
[10:12] <gvs77> systemctl controls systemd, client vpns are also started as services
[10:12] <ikonia> I meant systemctl will start a service, the client is not a service,
[10:12] <gvs77> :-)
[10:12] <ikonia> the client being launched as a service is just a wrapper for basically typing openvpn $1
[10:12] <gvs77> ikonia: Yes, they are started as services
[10:12] <ikonia> so that you don't need a controlling tty
[10:12] <gvs77> indeed, but it will do that at boot
[10:12] <ikonia> no different than say using network manager
[10:13] <ikonia> yes, I can see the value to that
[10:13] <ikonia> however, would it not make sense to validate the config file first by trying to launch openvpn your.config
[10:13] <gvs77> ikonia: I did and that works
[10:13] <ikonia> ok - so the actual config file works, thats a good start
[10:14] <ikonia> gvs77: so the next logical setp would be to verify the systemd unit file to see exactly what/how it's launching
[10:18] <gvs77> ikonia: I just rebooted the VM and it started up the VPN
[10:18] <gvs77> Just needed a reboo?
[10:18] <gvs77> reboot
[10:21] <ikonia> gvs77: that seems odd that it would require a reboot
[10:22] <gvs77> ikonia: yes...
[10:22] <gvs77> But it works now, so I'm happy ;-)
[10:22] <gvs77> thanks
[10:33] <voldyman> has anyone tried install clang-3.8 on ubuntu 12.04
[10:34] <voldyman> or any other recent version of clang
[10:37] <auronandace|work> !info clang
[10:37] <voldyman> my problem is that i need to run it on 12.04
[10:42] <IsodeDemo> TTtest new user
[10:43] <Lope> how can I mount a ZFS volume? the new guide does not say: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/ZFS
[10:52] <ducasse> Lope: they are automatically mounted, you set the 'mountpoint' property on the datasets to point where you want it mounted.
[10:52] <ducasse> Lope: you can also use 'zfs mount/umount' to do it manually.
[10:53] <Lope> okay, thanks
[10:53] <Lope> ducasse: I made a pool 'foo', then a fs in that pool. pool/0
[10:54] <Lope> But for some reason zfs seems to be mounting the /foo and /foo/0 ?
[10:54] <Lope> So it seems like there's a root filesystem, then the sub filesystems are there just for the ability to set limits on them?
[10:55] <ducasse> Lope: as i said, you can set the 'mountpoint' property to be wherever you want.
[10:56] <Lope> yes, I'm asking why foo (the pool name) is mounted
[10:56] <Lope> I assumed that a pool is not a filesystem?
[10:57] <ducasse> Lope: a pool also contains a filesystem, but you can divide it up further into datasetz or zvols if you want/need. it's actually really nice.
[10:57] <Lope> I see :) thanks
[11:00] <square1> hI gUYS,
[11:01] <square1> I'm installing from usb drive, tested it and it was ok - on the drive selection screen i leave the default options picked and click Continue, then I select the drive I want to use and choose "Install Now" but nothing happens, well it refreshes the screen but it doesn't mvoe on
[11:09] <lapion> Hello can anyone check what groups the user _apt is supposed to have ?
[11:09] <Ben64> there is no user _apt
[11:12] <lapion> W: Can't drop privileges for downloading as file '/var/lib/update-notifier/package-data-downloads/partial/adobe-flashplugin_20160512.1.orig.tar.gz' couldn't be accessed by user '_apt'. - pkgAcquire::Run (13: Permission denied)
[11:14] <Ben64> lapion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/1543280
[11:14] <Ben64> theres a way in there to sort of fix it
[11:19] <ArcherGodson> hi all
[11:19] <ArcherGodson> i just install elementary os
[11:20] <square1> I'm installing from usb drive, tested it and it was ok - on the drive selection screen i leave the default options picked and click Continue, then I select the drive I want to use and choose "Install Now" but nothing happens, well it refreshes the screen but it doesn't mvoe on
[11:22] <k1l> ArcherGodson: if you have questions regarding elementary OS better use their support. their website links to their forums and irc channels.
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:23] <lapion> Ben64, thanks
[11:24] <ppf> after upgrading to xenial, sound output is gone
[11:24] <ppf> were there any changes to cause that?
[11:34] <sudomarize> could i get a hand getting my gtx 960 working on 16.04? Currently i'm getting black screen after boot
[11:35] <ArcherGodson> k1l, u r so qute, thankyou
[11:43] <bognos> hello, I am trying to 'rsync -rtvu /media/bognos/a/ /media/bognos/b/' but after a few GBs 'a' gets unmounted. I have movies on 'a' which I can watch normally is only when I rsync or cp between the two external HDDs this happens. Any ideas, this is dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/17059571/? Thanks.
[11:44] <ikonia> bognos: is it a usb disk ?
[11:45] <Triffid_Hunter> bognos: looks like your disk temporarily disconnects, possibly from overheating or insufficient power
[11:45] <bognos> Yes, 3TB HDD in an enclosure
[11:45] <ikonia> probably being flooded
[11:45] <ikonia> the file system also needs fixing
[11:45] <ikonia> so before you do anything, fix the file system
[11:45] <bognos> could be power, it is on an extension cable
[11:45] <bognos> ikonia: how would I do that please?
[11:46] <bognos> Triffid_Hunter: disks are cool to touch
[11:46] <Billyzekid> Hello, anybody uses libwacom?
[11:47] <Billyzekid> doens't work on my laptop
[11:47] <Triffid_Hunter> bognos: extension cable? that's quite likely the problem
[11:57] <RahulAN> Hi
[11:58] <RahulAN> how to burn iso image in cd , i used cdrecord and growisofs but i am getting an error saying /dev/dvd: media is not recognized as recordable DVD: 0
[11:59] <phreekbird> try brasareo
[11:59] <RahulAN> phreekbird: is there command to do so?
[12:01] <phreekbird> sudo apt-get install brasero
[12:03] <RahulAN> phreekbird: cd rom is not detecting
[12:04] <phreekbird> are you sure the disk you have in it is blank, i have had issues where it wasn't or was scratched, and the recording drive just refused to read it.
[12:04] <RahulAN> phreekbird: it is new ..
[12:05] <RahulAN> With nothing written and no scratches
[12:07] <phreekbird> huh the only time i have had this problem before ... either the drive was pinned out as slave/master when it should have been the other, or the drive was just bad. I had to replace it as I had a bad drive.
[12:11] <BluesKaj> phreekbird, make sure it's first in the boot sequence on the uefi/bios
[12:23] <sudomarize> when doing dd on a usb, should i use sdb or sdb1?
[12:24] <telling> Does changes to /etc/profile do anything for the root user?
[12:24] <ppf> depends on whether you want to read/write sdb or sdb1
[12:25] <teward> sudomarize: also depends on whether the input file is a partition image or a full disk image
[12:25] <sudomarize> ppf: i'm trying to put a boot image on my usb
[12:25] <sudomarize> no idea about whether it should be partition image or full disk image
[12:26] <sudomarize> teward: ^
[12:26] <teward> sudomarize: fdisk -l /path/to/image
[12:26] <BluesKaj> sudomarize, the standard command is sdb
[12:26] <teward> sudomarize: if you get output it's likely a full disk image, then you write to sdb
[12:26] <ToFoo> #
[12:26] <sudomarize> ok thanks
[12:26] <teward> such that of=/dev/sdb
[12:36] <guest-21hCIB> hi
[12:37] <guest-21hCIB> welcome. whats your problem
[12:38] <Red_M> I have a weird issue with su and sudo
[12:38] <Red_M> su takes ages to get to a terminal
[12:39] <Red_M> however sudo is fine and gets to a terminal instantly
[12:39] <Red_M> any ideas?
[12:39] <Red_M> this is su'ing to any user, even myself
[12:39] <guest-21hCIB> ok, you need a dating site, right
[12:41] <guest-21hCIB> welcome. whats your problem
[12:42] <cbfmc> hello
[12:42] <guest-21hCIB> welcome. whats your problem
[12:42] <cbfmc> can anyone help me out with installing minitube on my ubuntu 14.04
[12:43] <guest-21hCIB> you need a dating site, right?
[12:43] <guest-21hCIB> you are wrong here. srry
[12:43] <guest-21hCIB> hi
[12:44] <guest-21hCIB> hello
[12:44] <guest-21hCIB> hi
[12:44] <guest-21hCIB> hi
[12:44] <guest-21hCIB> hi
[12:44] <guest-21hCIB> hi
[12:44] <guest-21hCIB> hi
[12:45] <Pici> bye
[12:46] <Erbins> cbfmc .. whats the problem with installing minitube ?
[12:46] <doev> does someone know a toll for formating iptables output?
[12:56] <pac1> d
[13:00] <Haris> hello all
[13:00] <Haris> where's the ssh or sudo access info logged on 14.4 LTS ?
[13:01] <Haris> I can't find /var/log/secure as present on centos. there's nothing relevant in /var/log/syslog
[13:02] <square1> hrm
[13:02] <square1> this is stupid
[13:03] <square1> I'm installing from usb drive, tested it and it was ok - on the drive selection screen i leave the default options picked and click Continue, then I select the drive I want to use and choose "Install Now" but nothing happens, well it refreshes the screen but it doesn't mvoe on
[13:04] <Crackpotmark> Haris, /var/log/auth.log
[13:33] <grey1> Anyone here know JACK/alsa? I'm running Ubuntu Studio and trying to achieve lower latency, but I get huge underruns whenever I set JACK to anything near ~ 2ms latency. I'd like some help trying to identify where my bottleneck is
[13:34] <Pici> grey1: the folks in #ubuntustudio are rather knowledgable
[13:34] <grey1> Pici: tried over there, nobody was active. I'm going to check back there this evening
[13:37] <Ntemis> i have some issues with libtool
[13:37] <Ntemis> libtool: Version mismatch error.  This is libtool 2.4.2, but the
[13:37] <Ntemis> libtool: definition of this LT_INIT comes from libtool 2.4.6.
[13:38] <Ntemis> i have downgraded automake 1.15 to 1.14 but still error persist
[13:38] <Ntemis> any help?
[13:42] <hellcook> Hi! I need to resize my root partition, since I'm running out of space. I have an unused partition after the root one, so I just need to extend the root. However, I am having troubles booting from a livecd / liveusb (livecd on a usb key). With a livecd the screen stays black, with a liveusb I have a bunch of errors printed: "mmc0 unknown controller version (3). You may experience problem", "nouveau0000:01:00.0: disp: outp 03:0006:0
[13:46] <BluesKaj> hellcook, run sudo apt autoremove && sudo apt autoclean to rid your / of old and unecessary data
[13:49] <hellcook> BluesKaj: thank you. I've often read it is not advised to mix apt and aptitude, and I usually use aptitude. Do you confirm?
[13:50] <BluesKaj> !aptitude | hellcook
[13:51] <BluesKaj> aptitude still works in most cases , but it is getting a bit old , hellcook
[13:51] <hellcook> BluesKaj: thanks for the information
[13:51] <hellcook> ubottu: thank you too
[13:52] <hellcook> right, my bad
[13:52] <hellcook> now I get the "!aptitude | hellcook" ^^
[13:52] <BluesKaj> nothing bad about it , just a small mistake
[13:58] <hellcook> BluesKaj: Can I use the apt commands you suggested although I always install packages with aptitude?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> hellcook, the common belief is that you either use one or the exclusively, once you start using apt don't go back to aptitude, mixing commands used to cuase peoblems between them , but I'm not sure about whether it does anymore.
[14:01] <BluesKaj> I just apt for all install, update/upgrade and remove etc commands
[14:02] <hellcook> BluesKaj: "mixing commands used to cuase peoblems between them" that's what I thought
[14:03] <hellcook> BluesKaj: I'll probably use "apt" on my next install
[14:03] <hellcook> BluesKaj: thank you
[14:03] <BluesKaj> hellcook, if you change don't go back is the rule afaik
[14:07] <sh0t> hi guys at the shutdown sometimes i get: "a stop job is running...." and it takes forever to shutdown. The processes involved are "c2 for user..." "lightdm..." "cryptswap1...."
[14:13] <emmet> hi
[14:15] <ptnecniv> Hello, I am trying to install ubuntu 14.04 on a laptop via USB. After booting from USB and selecting either "install ubuntu" or "try ubuntu without installing," it hangs on the boot splash indefinitely
[14:15] <ptnecniv> Any advice?
[14:17] <lyze> !patience | ptnecniv
[14:18] <ptnecniv> hehe
[14:18] <ioria> ptnecniv,  highlight 'try ubuntu' press Tab or 'e' or F6  edit the kernel line and remove 'quite splash', then F10 or enter
[14:19] <MacroMan> Im' trying to build the obscure package scolorq, but I'm getting unkonwn option -parallel using g++-5
[14:19] <hellcook> ptnecniv: I'm having a quite similar problem right now. I don't have the page anymore, but what you describe reminds me of something I saw about an hour ago: you could have a machine configured to boot in uefi and somehow the livecd is booted in bios mode.
[14:20] <MacroMan> Was this ever an option on previous versions of g++?
[14:21] <ptnecniv> ioria: trying to boot now
[14:21] <ptnecniv> ioria: seems i'm getting a kernel panic "not syncing: attempted to kill init!"
[14:22] <ioria> ptnecniv,  you removed something else ...
[14:22] <JackJones> hi there folks
[14:23] <JackJones> how do I use 'find' to find a file in the current dir and all its subdirectories
[14:23] <zykotick9> JackJones: "find ./ FOO"
[14:23] <ptnecniv> ioria: i dont think i did, but i will try again
[14:23] <JackJones> can I search for partial of the file name zykotick9
[14:24] <zykotick9> JackJones: yes
[14:24] <ioria> ptnecniv,  removing quite splash just lets you boot in text mode
[14:24] <zykotick9> JackJones: also using -i will remove CaSe as an issue
[14:24] <ptnecniv> ioria: right, which happened
[14:24] <ioria> ptnecniv,  ok
[14:24] <ptnecniv> ioria: ok so i only removed the words quiet splash this time
[14:25] <ioria> ptnecniv,  good
[14:25] <ptnecniv> (as i thought i did last time)
[14:25] <ptnecniv> should the line end with --?
[14:25] <ioria> yep
[14:25] <ptnecniv> ok, i'm going to boot.
[14:26] <ptnecniv> ioria: seems it's not liking nouveau
[14:26] <tominator> Hello friends! I was wondering, how would I add an image to grub? I'd like to make it so that a recovery CD ISO is a boot option when I hold shift when Linux starts. I have the ISO and a live CD for changing things if I need.
[14:26] <JackJones> where do I put the -i zykotick9 its saying "unknown predicate"
[14:26] <ioria> ptnecniv,  so you may need nomodeset parameter
[14:26] <ptnecniv> got a crap tone of SCED_ERRORs
[14:26] <hellcook> well, I am going try again. Nice afternoon'
[14:26] <ioria> ptnecniv,  gtx 9xx something ?
[14:27] <ptnecniv> ioria: perhaps. it's a new work laptop. i need to check
[14:27] <ptnecniv> ioria: although the thing that ends up killing it is a segfault in libply
[14:28] <tominator> Hello friends! I was wondering, how would I add an image to grub? I'd like to make it so that a recovery CD ISO is a boot option when I hold shift when Linux starts. I have the ISO of the disc and a live CD for changing things if I need.
[14:28] <ptnecniv> ioria: GTX960M
[14:28] <ioria> ptnecniv,  right
[14:29] <ioria> ptnecniv,  in addition of removing quite splash , add  nomodeset
[14:30] <ptnecniv> ioria: what does that do? something with kernel modules i presume?
[14:30] <ioria> !nomodeset | ptnecniv
[14:30] <square1> Hi. I'm installing from usb drive, tested it and it was ok - on the drive selection screen i leave the default options picked and click Continue, then I select the drive I want to use and choose "Install Now" but nothing happens, well it refreshes the screen but it doesn't mvoe on
[14:31] <tominator> ioria: Try going to the additional drivers menu in updates in the system preferences menu
[14:31] <tominator> ioria: I have a GTX750 and that did it for me
[14:33] <ptnecniv> ioria: seems like it might have worked. it's now trying to restore my sound card state
[14:33] <ptnecniv> and that failed
[14:33] <ptnecniv> :/
[14:33] <ptnecniv> i suspect it's hanging but i'm not sure
[14:33] <ioria> ptnecniv,  let it run
[14:34] <JackJones> hey, can i list the files in a directory and its subdirectories according to their size like say less than 1GB or more than 1GB
[14:34] <ptnecniv> ioria: ok, it seems to just be sitting there, but i'll check back in 5 minutes
[14:35] <ioria> ptnecniv,  ok
[14:37] <explosive> JackJones: yeah, find -size +1G
[14:37] <JackJones> nice!
[14:37] <JackJones> thank you so much explosive bro
[14:37] <explosive> JackJones: no problem
[14:39] <tomleo> When I do alt-tab to switch windows, "Files" file manager windows do not show up
[14:39] <tomleo> this is only after upgrading Ubuntu
[14:39] <tomleo> should I file a bug?
[14:45] <tominator> How can I create a bootloader that works on UEFI and BIOS?
[14:45] <tomleo> I'm gonna go ahead of afile a bug...
[14:46] <IsodeDemo> Test message
[14:46] <cscf> IsodeDemo, hi.  Welcome to IRC
[14:46] <Fred78> Test what
[14:48] <tominator> Can anyone here help?
[14:48] <cscf> Fred78, IRC, of course
[14:48] <cscf> tominator, grub works with UEFI and BIOS, although you need different settings.  Look at grub docs.
[14:49] <tominator> Can I do that on a copy I already have installed?
[14:49] <tominator> Actually, I get it, nevermind
[14:49] <explosive> tominator: you'd need an efi partition with a bios-boot partition for legacy
[14:49] <tominator> On a different note,  how can I remove grub from a computer with windows 10?
[14:50] <tominator> AH! How do I do that?
[14:50] <ptnecniv> ioria: still hanging after "starting restore sound card state" failed
[14:50] <explosive> tominator: read the arch wiki
[14:50] <square1> anyone at all? Surely I can look at a log or something?
[14:50] <tominator> arch? What if I have Ubuntu?
[14:51] <god__> hello
[14:51] <explosive> tominator: install grub-efi-amd64-signed while booted in uefi mode, and then boot into legacy mode from a live usb and install grub-pc so it installs it to the bios-boot partition
[14:51] <explosive> tominator: read about uefi, legacy, gpt, and bios-boot partitions
[14:51] <ioria> ptnecniv,  try    with   nouveau.blacklist=1 instead of nomodeset
[14:51] <god__> hey
[14:52] <tominator> Amazing, thank you
[14:52] <tominator> one last thing
[14:52] <tominator> I was wondering, how would I add an image to grub? I'd like to make it so that a recovery CD ISO is a boot option when I hold shift when Linux starts. I have the ISO and a live CD for changing things if I need.
[14:54] <xafarderr> Hi, what kind of risks I am exposed to running an EOL Ubuntu distro?
[14:54] <somsip> xafarderr: all of them that have been discovered since EOL date
[14:54] <k1l_> xafarderr: a lot. see ubuntu.com/usn
[14:54] <xafarderr> but there are no virus in Linux practically
[14:55] <jfo2> hello
[14:55] <explosive> tominator: add a custom menu, don't know about adding an image
[14:55] <explosive> /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[14:55] <tominator> How do I add a custom menu? :P
[14:55] <explosive> search google for ubuntu grub iso booting
[14:55] <k1l_> xafarderr: not virus like on windows. but programs with known security issues that get no updates on EOL ubuntus. which is basically the same since it will make others use your system.
[14:55] <explosive> add that in 40_custom and update-grub
[14:56] <tominator> Alright, I'll do that
[14:56] <tominator> explosive: Thank you
[14:56] <explosive> tominator: no problem
[14:56] <xafarderr> thanks kil_
[14:56] <xafarderr> k1l_, thanks but I don't see the problems
[14:57] <k1l_> xafarderr: that is a huge problem.
[14:57] <de-facto> xafarderr all discovered security problems remain unpatched if you use EOL ubuntu, even when they got published, so such systems may contain known exploitable security flaws.
[14:57] <xafarderr> ie navigating porno websites
[14:57] <xafarderr> xD
[14:57] <ptnecniv> ioria: that worked!
[14:58] <ioria> ptnecniv,  lucky guy :-)
[14:58] <jfo2> an application i want to use requires data to be in in /home/<user>. i have a bigger and faster drive attached which i would like to use for multiple things such as users home directories and data store for mysql and so on. so if i mount the drive to /mnt/data1, with respect to performance, should i symlink /home to /mnt/data1 or should i create a mount point between /home and /mnt/data1/home ?
[14:58] <ptnecniv> ioria: what will i have to do post install for the GPU to work
[14:58] <k1l_> xafarderr: the internet doesnt need more botnet clients. so dont run EOL ubuntu versions
[14:58] <xafarderr> ok
[14:59] <xafarderr> then I'll have to upgrade
[14:59] <ioria> ptnecniv,  you may need to add  a ppa  and install nvidia-364
[14:59] <xafarderr> but I was very confortable with ubuntu 12.04 classic gnome
[14:59] <xafarderr> everything was well configured and organized
[14:59] <k1l_> xafarderr: if you like the gnome2 look take a look at xfce, mate or cinnamon. they are all included in latest ubuntus
[15:00] <ioria> ptnecniv,  something like this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/768959/ubuntu-16-04-nvidia-drivers-for-geforce-gtx-960m
[15:00] <xafarderr> well there is also gnome flashback
[15:00] <xafarderr> thanks in any case k1l_
[15:03] <ptnecniv> ioria: cool, thanks
[15:14] <ptnecniv> ioria: seems my luck ran out. the system hung while i was connected to wifi. i rebooted and did the nouveau.blacklist=1 thing, and now i'm stuck on "NMI watchdog: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#3 stuck for 22s! (gpu-manager:1765)"
[15:14] <ppf> so, anyone up for a sound issue?
[15:14] <ppf> upgraded to xenial, now when i try to run aplay, this is in the pa output:
[15:15] <ppf> I: [pulseaudio] protocol-native.c: Connection died.
[15:15] <ptnecniv> ioria: and now i'm getting a lot of reports of stalled / blocked takss
[15:15] <ptnecniv> tasks*
[15:16] <ioria> ptnecniv,  i guess you can only reboot
[15:16] <ppf> and i can't seem to convince it to actually output any sound
[15:16] <ppf> ideas?
[15:16] <LMNTRIX> hai
[15:17] <LMNTRIX> whats the topic?
[15:17] <ptnecniv> ioria: i found an arch forum post sugguesting disabling the watchdog. worth a shot?
[15:18] <ioria> ptnecniv,  idk, but seems a bug  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1530405
[15:19] <ptnecniv> ioria: so i'm boned?
[15:20] <backbox_> hii
[15:20] <ioria> ptnecniv,  don't know, you can try ubuntu 14.04 or Lubuntu and then install ubuntu-desktop and see if it's getting better
[15:21] <ptnecniv> ioria: this is 14.04
[15:21] <BluesKaj> ppf, which audio chip and driver?
[15:21] <ioria> ptnecniv,  right.... then 16.04
[15:22] <LMNTRIX> why my bootloader not direcly boot ubuntu after selecting ubuntu, but boot GRUB & must select ubuntu again?
[15:22] <LMNTRIX> im dualbooting w/ OSX with Clover botloader (UEFI)
[15:22] <ppf> BluesKaj: pacmd lists the default one as "HDA Intel PCH"
[15:23] <ppf> ALC892
[15:23] <square1> Hi. I'm installing from usb drive, tested it and it was ok - on the drive selection screen i leave the default options picked and click Continue, then I select the drive I want to use and choose "Install Now" but nothing happens, well it refreshes the screen but it doesn't mvoe on
[15:24] <CryptoSiD> Hi, is there a way to copy a file using cp, but if the file exist it create a .1, example, cp /tmp/test /root/, but once the test file exist i want to keep it, so it create test.1 instead of overwriting test
[15:24] <ptnecniv> ioria: *sigh*, i'll give it a go
[15:24] <ppf> BluesKaj: kernel driver is snd_hda_intel
[15:24] <BluesKaj> ppf, right so your auio driver is snd-hda-intel . Run sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, if there's no output then the driver is properly loaded
[15:24] <ioria> ptnecniv,  ok
[15:24] <ppf> (fwiw, there is a second card/chip on my graphics card)
[15:25] <ppf> BluesKaj: one of the first things i checked, driver is loaded
[15:26] <BluesKaj> ppf , well it's usually a hdmi link to your sound card that appears as a second chip
[15:26] <ppf> yeah
[15:27] <BluesKaj> did the sound quit after an upgrade?
[15:27] <ppf> uh, this is interesting: if i move the volume slider in pavucontrol, i hear the blobb sound!
[15:27] <ppf> yes, sound was fine before
[15:28] <BluesKaj> ok , check that alsamixer didn't enable automute again, that seems to be a problem lately
[15:29] <ppf> automute is off
[15:29] <BluesKaj> run aplay -l again and see if you get the pa error
[15:30] <ppf> no, there is no error per se
[15:30] <ppf> when i run pavucontrol, i get "I: [pulseaudio] client.c: Created 36 "Native client (UNIX socket client)"
[15:30] <ppf> in the pa log
[15:31] <ppf> when i run aplay with some wav file, it immediately prints "Connection died", long before aplay terminates
[15:31] <ppf> (for the aplay client, not the pavucontrol client)
[15:32] <BluesKaj> ppf just run the wav file in another player
[15:32] <ppf> tried that, will retry
[15:33] <ppf> okay, awkward. VLC plays it with sound
[15:34] <ppf> now what's wrong with aplay?
[15:34] <ppf> or, more importantly, chrome, which has no sound either
[15:35] <BluesKaj> never used aplay as a audio player
[15:35] <ppf> me neither, only to test audio output
[15:35] <ppf> so let's focus on chrome. no audio there
[15:36] <onearrows> q.
[15:36] <BluesKaj> ppf  you probly need the pepperflash plugin
[15:36] <ppf> what's that?
[15:36] <ppf> flash player i guess?
[15:36] <ppf> i don't need/use flash
[15:37] <ppf> if i browse to anything with sound (e.g. the wav file i just played in vlc), there is nothing about that in the pa log
[15:38] <ppf> so chrome doesn't attempt to talk to pa, it seems?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> odd tho , chrome has it's own version of flash
[15:38] <ppf> yes. i don't care about flash anyways
[15:40] <Peto> hi, can you please help me with installing AMD driver on Ubuntu 16.04?
[15:40] <k1l_> Peto: there is no fglrx anymore since 16.04.
[15:40] <BluesKaj> ppf, pulse is pita for me , usually if you don't need simultaneous audio sources, intel hda and alsa can run fine as a team without pulse in the mix mucking things up, but that's my view and experience
[15:42] <PCatinean> heelp
[15:42] <ppf> i actually want to use simultaneous sinks at some point
[15:42] <surge> Are nvidia video cards more stable than amd video cards on ubuntu?
[15:42] <PCatinean> I did a update on ubuntu 16.04 and now fonts are ALL messed up in certain website
[15:42] <PCatinean> Oversized and very strange
[15:42] <ppf> so i'm stuck with pa
[15:43] <BluesKaj> well, you can always reinstall it if you need pulse , it's not difficult
[15:44] <ppf> it has to work first ;)
[15:45] <PCatinean> any1?
[15:45] <ppf> how could i debug the connection with chrome?
[15:46] <jake__> Hello - I installed OpenVPN on Ubuntu desktop 14.04 with "sudo apt-get install openvpn" but I cannot find the directory where the .ovpn file should be saved. Does anyone know the config directory path?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> ppf, it seems pulse  has a problrm lately with misdirecting the audio to the hdmi outputs by default
[15:47] <Peto> k1l_: and there is no option?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> jake__, install neteork-manager-openvpn as well
[15:47] <BluesKaj> network
[15:48] <k1l_> Peto: amd doesnt support the latest xorg versions that are shipped from 16.04 on for fglrx. amd now supports the new amd_gpu driver in the kernel which bases on the open source radeon driver.
[15:48] <PCatinean> Anyone on font problems?
[15:49] <jake__> BluesKaj: Ah, thanks.  Could you provide a link to the instructions?
[15:50] <Peto> k1l_: it seems that my card isnt in the kernel: I became this error message: Failed to build shader variant
[15:51] <jake__> BluesKaj: Got it, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager.
[15:51] <BluesKaj> jake__, sudo apt install network-manager-openvpn
[16:01] <PCatinean> hello is anyone here?
[16:01] <BluesKaj> nope
[16:01] <BluesKaj> PCatinean, just ask your question
[16:02] <PCatinean> BluesKaj, I did but got no answer
[16:03] <PCatinean> I just did a new update on my 16.04 and fonts in some websites is completely messed up
[16:03] <PCatinean> the design too
[16:03] <PCatinean> tested on multiple browsers
[16:03] <PCatinean> uhh sh** even here in the irc clinet it's getting cut
[16:03] <jfo2> anyone? :(
[16:03] <PCatinean> I do not see the entire sentence I am writing
[16:04] <PCatinean> everything is messed up
[16:04] <BluesKaj> PCatinean, system fonts need to be reset perhaps
[16:05] <PCatinean> I did it with the unity tweak tool, nothing happened
[16:06] <BluesKaj> PCatinean, have you rebooted since th upgrade ?
[16:06] <PCatinean> I can only see until "upgra" then it's blank
[16:06] <PCatinean> Yes I have
[16:06] <PCatinean> Now it gets even shorter
[16:06] <PCatinean> I have no idea what's going on
[16:07] <BluesKaj> ok , check your input devices, keyboard and mouse
[16:07] <PCatinean> for?
[16:07] <PCatinean> keyboard and mo, I assuem mouse
[16:07] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:07] <PCatinean> Check them with what
[16:08] <PCatinean> hmmmm
[16:08] <BluesKaj> system settings or whatever unitu uses for input devices settings
[16:09] <PCatinean> I think I acidentaly touched the external monitor thing on my laptop
[16:09] <PCatinean> and it might be why it's acting up
[16:09] <BluesKaj> external monitor "thing" ?
[16:10] <PCatinean> button that enabled activation or deactivation of external displays connected to the notebook
[16:10] <PCatinean> makes the laptop screen flash and/or the attached display perhipherals
[16:11] <PCatinean> Brb reboot
[16:12] <square1> Hi. I'm installing from usb drive, tested it and it was ok - on the drive selection screen i leave the default options picked and click Continue, then I select the drive I want to use and choose "Install Now" but nothing happens, well it refreshes the screen but it doesn't mvoe on
[16:12] <PCatinean> Switched to nvidia propiretary dirvers, nothing changed
[16:12] <PCatinean> this is totally messed up
[16:14] <PCatinean> any advice?
[16:14] <PCatinean> BluesKaj?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> PCatinean, I still think you should check your keyboard model, layout and other options in input devices
[16:15] <__Myst__> Hello
[16:15] <__Myst__> I'm on version 14.04 LTS, and I would like to upgrade to 16.04 LTS
[16:16] <__Myst__> Most websites I find mention either running `sudo do-release-upgrade` or `sudo update-manager`
[16:16] <__Myst__> What should I actually do if I just want a direct upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04?
[16:16] <__Myst__> I'd like if somebody could tell me if I would need to change any config files/etc, too, after upgrading.
[16:16] <__Myst__> Thank you in advance
[16:16] <BluesKaj> mybit, update and upgrade your packages first , then run sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> !ltsupgrade | __Myst__
[16:17] <BluesKaj> __Myst__, ^
[16:17] <__Myst__> BluesKaj: By mybit do you actually mean __Myst__?
[16:17] <__Myst__> MonkeyDust: So, should I wait for July 21st to upgrade?
[16:17] <BluesKaj> some users don't want to wait til july
[16:17] <abart> hello
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> __Myst__  yes, but you can backup and fresh install whenever you want
[16:18] <abart> how to make mediaserver my deskop?
[16:18] <BluesKaj> __Myst__, yes , why do yoy have to __ in front , it's pita
[16:18] <Matumaros> Hi, how hard would it be to change the DE to GNOME?
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> Matumaros  install gnome-shell, logout, switch, login
[16:19] <__Myst__> BluesKaj: I forgot the actual reason, to be honest. Your client should be smart enough to fill in the __, no?
[16:19] <__Myst__> Aren't we in July right now?
[16:20] <BluesKaj> no it's june
[16:20] <Matumaros> MonkeyDust: I wasn't able to get Ubuntu GNOME to work, so my idea was to install Ubuntu first and then GNOME
[16:20] <__Myst__> Is there a "changelog" for 16.04.1?
[16:21] <__Myst__> As in, so I can see if I want to wait
[16:21] <abart> help me,i wan share my media on local network, how to make mediaserver my deskop?
[16:21] <c1_> I have lubuntu 16.04 in an vbox vm the windows manager keeps crashing
[16:22] <Jakey3> any ideas?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> abart, install ubuntu on the media server if it doen't have an OS
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> Jakey3  about wht
[16:23] <Jakey3> the window manager keeps crashing
[16:23] <Jakey3> when i drag a link
[16:23] <Jakey3> and i have to restart the vm
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> Jakey3  guess i entered after you described the issue, start from the begining
[16:24] <merpnderp> What's the latest on Ubuntu touch phones? I see the Meizu Pro 5 is sold out. Is that available in the US when it comes back in stock? Is Canonical still pushing hard to get into the phone biz?
[16:24] <abart> blueskaj, u mean i cannot make mediaserver on my ubuntu desktop?
[16:24] <Jakey3> MonkeyDust,  I have lubuntu 16.04 in an vbox vm the windows manager keeps crashing
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> !phone | merpnderp
[16:25] <Jakey3> when i drag a hyper text link the windows manager keeps crashing
[16:25] <merpnderp> thanks MonkeyDust
[16:25] <BluesKaj> abart, is your media server located on a separate disk or pc ?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> Jakey3  oh, you changed your nickname ... if you don't get an answer here, try in #vbox or #virtualbox
[16:27] <Jakey3> ok
[16:28] <abart> i wan share my media
[16:28] <abart> media located in my deskop
[16:30] <asif> hi
[16:34] <BluesKaj> abart, what do want to do with the media on your desktop? You can use VLC to stream it over your network if that's what you're asking.
[16:40] <Matumaros> I'm looking for a good laptop, about 15", 4GB RAM, anti-glare screen, light, and quiet fans which are on the side; any recommendations?
[16:40] <Matumaros> Of course it should work with Linux Ubuntu :)
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Matumaros  that's for #ububntu-offtopic
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> Matumaros  that's for #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:43] <Matumaros> MonkeyDust: thanks, I'll ask there
[16:44] <xangua> Matumaros: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed
[16:44] <jake__> BluesKaj: OpenVPN works! Thanks for the tip.
[16:45] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, so wiping your hard drive creatin an new partition table and formatting to ext4 didn't work ?
[16:45] <BluesKaj> jake__, you're welcome , glad it works  :-)
[16:45] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I didn't try that yet, I'm looking for a replacement for my laptop right now
[16:47] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, all new lapyops have the uefi/bios system , even the pcs with linux preinstalled do.
[16:48] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: Yeah, I don't mind, as long as it works. Also, I'm not necessarily looking for one that has Linux pre-installed, just one on which it works
[16:49] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, it works on Lenovo laptops , they're quite linux friendly
[16:50] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: Yeah, I'm looking at one
[16:51] <BluesKaj> my G500 runs great with Kubuntu Xenial
[16:56] <__Myst__> BluesKaj: Isn't Lenovo the one which installed malware by default?
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> malware?
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> __Myst__  exciting! source?
[16:57] <BluesKaj> __Myst__, no, unless you call windows 8.1 with bloatware
[16:57] <__Myst__> MonkeyDust: reddit frontpage that one time :p
[16:57] <__Myst__> BluesKaj: I would :)p
[16:59] <BluesKaj> well ,  __Myst__ I removed windows 8.1 and installed Kubuntu within an hr of receiving the laptop
[16:59] <__Myst__> BluesKaj: not quick enough, send whoever mailed you the laptop a usb stick with kubuntu beforehand so you get it with kubuntu right away
[17:00] <BluesKaj> __Myst__, I prefer to do my own OS installations
[17:00] <__Myst__> BluesKaj: Ubuntu is actually my first linux, I chose it for its ease of use
[17:00] <__Myst__> I plan on switching to Arch once I get a new computer
[17:01] <DJones> __Myst__: Yes hey did to their defaut oem installs, so doesn't affect anything apart from default widows installs
[17:01] <BluesKaj> __Myst__, there's nothing special about arch except the hype
[17:02] <donofrio> anyone here use JoinNow/securew2 python script returns this - http://apaste.info/vbZ - sysinfo @ http://apaste.info/upload/mh0.jpg any thoughts?
[17:02] <__Myst__> DJones: So basically you should reformat a lenovo laptop ASAP?
[17:02] <__Myst__> BluesKaj: I like how hands on it seems, it feel slike it would be a learning exrpeince
[17:02] <MonkeyDust> donofrio  try #python, or ##python
[17:02] <DJones> __Myst__: No idea, I reinstalled my laptop anyway cefore instaling Ububntu
[17:03] <__Myst__> donofrio: Try ##learnpython
[17:03] <__Myst__> donofrio: I'm pretty active in there
[17:03] <lxleuser> hello any way of reaching preferences menu with command line?
[17:03] <lxleuser> i have lxle
[17:03] <BluesKaj> __Myst__, all I learned was that cli  text installs are over rated , the end result was anti-climactic , it's a pretty ordinary linux OS  IMO
[17:04] <__Myst__> BluesKaj: I also want the cutting edge, I am amazed by how old some of the packages on Ubuntu 14.04 are
[17:05] <BluesKaj> __Myst__, that's what LTS means  stable and it works ..I liked 14,04 a lot
[17:05] <lxleuser> tried to install greek and most of menu features are missing
[17:06] <__Myst__> BluesKaj: that's why I'm switching away from LTS
[17:06] <Jakey3> im getting massive black flickering on my ubuntu 16.04 anyway to fix this
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> lxleuser  lxle is not suported here, iirc
[17:06] <__Myst__> BluesKaj: also “cutting edge” is latest stable afaik
[17:07] <BluesKaj> __Myst__, what makes you think cutting edge is used in arch ?
[17:08] <__Myst__> BluesKaj: isn't it?
[17:09] <__Myst__> MonkeyDust: What about Lubuntu then?
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> __Myst__  lubuntu is supported
[17:09] <__Myst__> MonkeyDust: Yes, but afaik Lubuntu uses lxle?
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> !lxle
[17:10] <Pici> lubuntu uses lxde
[17:13] <ejb> Is there a way to install ubuntu (on bare metal) from an existing virtual machine image (virtualbox)?
[17:13] <ejb> Or some how image / capture the configuration and use it in a new install
[17:13] <akik> lubuntu uses lxde
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> ejb  is this useful ... post looks somewhat old, tho ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/32499/migrate-from-a-virtual-machine-vm-to-a-physical-system
[17:19] <zachsalz> i'm having trouble preseeding my install - i've created a user in the cfg file with an encrypted password, but it always asks me to enter a password
[17:19] <zachsalz> any ideas?
[17:25] <wcs> Quick question: what funcionality is netfilter-persistent suppose to provide? It just looks like it's a framework that doesn't actually do anything out of the box
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> wcs  how is that ubuntu related?
[17:26] <nacc> wcs: that pacakge? it seems to just add the ability for netfilter configuration to be loaded at boot-time
[17:27] <nacc> wcs: hence "persistence"
[17:27] <ejb> MonkeyDust: that looks like the ticket. Thanks
[17:29] <wcs> it looks like it suggest iptables-persistent
[17:29] <wcs> but for some reason aptitude didn't install the suggested
[17:29] <ioria> !info iptables-persistent
[17:30] <wcs> if you install netfilter-persistent without iptables-persistent the netfilter-persistent doesn't actually do anything...
[17:30] <wcs> and it doesn't report that no plugins are run.
[17:31] <ioria> !info netfilter-persistent
[17:31] <wcs> In fact it actually reports to stdout "saving netfilter rules"
[17:31] <wcs> even though it didn't run anyplugins
[17:34] <ioria> wcs are you on trusty  ?
[17:34] <curlyears> gratings and salivations
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> wcs  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[17:35] <wcs> it's 16.04
[17:39] <ioria> wcs http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/iptables-persistent   netfilter it's a dep of  iptables-pers
[17:40] <wcs> correct, but netfilter-persistent just suggest iptables-persistent, but when run without it. It reports the action was sucessful even though no action was taken
[17:40] <ioria> oh, i see
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> wcs  maybe you can report that as a !bug
[17:41] <wcs> MonkeyDust, that's what I was thinking.
[17:45] <elavee> hey guys where are my installed binaries?
[17:45] <elavee> i can't find them anywhere
[17:45] <pvsharov> elavee: which
[17:45] <elavee> opt bianries
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> elavee  basically in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin/
[17:47] <elavee> so is there any order to this?
[17:47] <elavee> or do 3rd party apps just place themselves wherever they want?
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> elavee  start from the beginning, what are you doing and what goes wrong, what brings you here
[17:47] <loa> hello! what i need to run after updating /etc/default/grub ? update-grub or update-grub2 ?
[17:48] <elavee> i just want to know, where are my /opt/ binaries?
[17:48] <elavee> applications installed from 3rd parties
[17:48] <elavee> either ubuntu store
[17:48] <elavee> or from various places on the internet
[17:48] <elavee> they aren't in /usr/bin
[17:48] <genii> look in /opt/bin
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> elavee  and not supported here, if it's not in the ubuntu repos
[17:48] <akik> elavee: there are no /opt binaries unless you place them there
[17:49] <elavee> okay so
[17:49] <elavee> /opt/ is empty
[17:50] <elavee> there is no /usr/opt
[17:50] <akik> elavee: you're not making much sense
[17:50] <elavee> /usr/sbin & /usr/bin also empty
[17:50] <curlyears> no, but there is a /usr/bin
[17:50] <elavee> so im just wondering here what is the default location for ubuntu binaries??
[17:50] <elavee> or is it that apps just go wherever they want?
[17:51] <elavee> like is there any organization to this? or does it just vary?
[17:51] <akik> elavee: if your /usr/bin and /usr/sbin are empty, your installation is broken
[17:51] <curlyears> elavee:  it depends on what portion of ubuntu the app supports/is based on.
[17:51] <elavee> akik they don't have binaries in them, they aren't empty
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> elavee  what's the output of    which firefox
[17:52] <akik> i have to say i'm baffled
[17:52] <elavee> this doesn't make any sense to me
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> elavee  to us it doesnt either
[17:53] <elavee> /usr/bin/ looks like a dump
[17:53] <elavee> nothing is organized
[17:53] <elavee> it has dev dependencies i've isntalled via apt-get
[17:54] <elavee> and then lots of symlinks
[17:54] <genii> !fhs | elavee Ubuntu adheres to this standard
[17:54] <elavee> thanks ubottu i need to read this
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> elavee  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[17:54] <akik> elavee: /usr/bin and /usr/sbin are the directories that hold most of the binaries
[17:56] <nacc> elavee: to be clear, pvsharov was saying (imo) to use `which` to find where a binary is
[17:56] <nacc> elavee: as was MonkeyDust
[17:56] <elavee> nacc yah i understand
[17:56] <elavee> im just going to read what ubottu linked me so i can learn more about how ubuntu does this
[17:57] <elavee> because coming from freebsd
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> !manual | elavee
[17:57] <elavee> this is a wreck guys
[17:57] <akik> elavee: please stop trolling
[18:04] <whlai> hey all. I have a situation with 16.04 where it doesn't detect the second display (though greeter does) any ideas? Using Intel integrated graphics)
[18:05] <elavee> akik don't be sensitive
[18:05] <elavee> i'm not trolling
[18:05] <elavee> /usr/bin is a dump
[18:05] <elavee> there should be some semblance of organization
[18:05] <elavee> but there's just not
[18:06] <elavee> i guess if you're using something like the ubuntu store to remove an isntalled packaged
[18:06] <elavee> is it going to just clean itself?
[18:06] <yeats> elavee: what's your concern about that?
[18:06] <elavee> i can see that eventually i bet cleaning up the trash left behind from various apps is probably a huge pita
[18:07] <elavee> unless you guys have some sort of method you use
[18:07] <elavee> yeats it's not maintainable
[18:07] <elavee> it's really frustrating
[18:07] <elavee> and it clutters up userspace
[18:07] <yeats> elavee: do you have a support question, or are you just complaining?
[18:07] <akik> elavee: it's called package management which takes care of them
[18:08] <akik> elavee: can you pastebin of freebsd's /usr/bin so we can compare?
[18:10] <elavee> yeats my question was where does ubuntu install apps, but now im wondering how the heck do you guys manage this going forward?
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> !apt | elavee
[18:10] <elavee> in my epxerience package managers always leave pieces behind, it just happens
[18:10] <BluesKaj> what's the ubuntu app for connecting via wfi to android phones?
[18:10] <MonkeyDust> elavee  yes, you can clean that with apt clean, apt autoremove and others
[18:11] <cscf> elavee, APT leaves config files behind by default, unless you say "purge" so as to prevent destroying user data.  Other than that, removing a package removes it.
[18:11] <cscf> BluesKaj, you mean connecting to a phone's hotspot?
[18:12] <BluesKaj> cscf, no just to trasnsfer files back and forth liker kdeconnect does
[18:12] <BluesKaj> cscf, I'm just curious is all
[18:13] <cscf> BluesKaj, I'm not aware of an Ubuntu-specific alternative to kde-connect
[18:13] <dax> just use kdeconnect?
[18:13] <elavee> okay thanks guys
[18:15] <BluesKaj> dax, I do, but some ubuntu purists might not want some kde libs on their systems :-)
[18:15] <dax> some ubuntu purists should feel free to write their own NIH implementation, then
[18:16] <BluesKaj> dax, i run Kubuntu so i really don't care , like I said , I'm just curious
[18:38] <whlai> 16.04 xrandr: Can't open display
[18:38] <whlai> anyone?
[18:38] <nissin> HELLO
[18:38] <nissin> NISSIN my name
[18:39] <pvsharov> nissin: japan?
[18:39] <nissin> NO
[18:39] <nissin> NIHON
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> nissin  caps
[18:39] <pvsharov> Nipon?
[18:39] <akik> whlai: open a new terminal. i think you've changed from your normal user account to some other account
[18:39] <nissin> monkeydust anal
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> nissin  this is the ubuntu support channel, sure you want to be here?
[18:40] <whlai> akik: same
[18:40] <whlai> as root or as user
[18:40] <whlai> Can't open display
[18:40] <akik> whlai: you've changed the display configuration somehow, undo it and then try again
[18:40] <whlai> This is a fresh install
[18:41] <whlai> How can I "undo" the configuration?
[18:41] <nissin_> I have an issue where Bluetooth always turns on when restarting computer
[18:41] <whlai> 16.04 doesn't have a xorg.conf in ?etc/X11
[18:41] <nissin_> How can I save myself from this inconvenient burden?
[18:41] <akik> whlai: what do you get from "echo $DISPLAY" ?
[18:41] <whlai> nothing
[18:41] <whlai> blank
[18:42] <nissin_> bluetooth keeps turning on how can i disable this
[18:42] <nissin_> !
[18:42] <akik> whlai: try "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -q"
[18:42] <Jordan_U> whlai: Can you open any GUI apps from the terminal?
[18:42] <whlai> No protocol specified
[18:42] <whlai> Can't open display :0
[18:43] <akik> whlai: in the default installation xrandr would work without those errors
[18:43] <whlai> Jordan_U:  Error: GDK_BACKEND does not match available displays
[18:43] <whlai> akik, how do I go to default config?
[18:44] <akik> whlai: that's what i would ask you :) did you change the configuration?
[18:44] <whlai> not that I know of
[18:44] <whlai> Made an image, cloned the image, shipped it off
[18:44] <Ntemis> hi
[18:44] <Jordan_U> whlai: Do you have this problem when logging in with the guest account?
[18:44] <whlai> user can't detect second monitor
[18:44] <Ntemis> i need some help with compliling on xenial
[18:44] <whlai> Jordan, I don't know didn't try
[18:45] <Jordan_U> whlai: How did you "clone the image"?
[18:45] <whlai> with a cloning dock
[18:45] <nissin_> can anyone help me with this burden
[18:45] <whlai> basically, dd
[18:45] <nissin_> i cannot manage to keep bluetooth CLOSED
[18:45] <Ntemis> any help with this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/17069641/
[18:45] <Jordan_U> whlai: How did you create the image?
[18:45] <akik> whlai: shipped what, where? i don't get it
[18:46] <whlai> akik, i don't have the machine. it's a user. I'm sshing into his machine
[18:46] <akik> ohh... the details emerge
[18:46] <whlai> :)
[18:46] <Jordan_U> whlai: Then of course you cant do anything GUI related.
[18:46] <whlai> lol
[18:46] <whlai> but I know what's happeneing on the other end
[18:47] <akik> whlai: you can you ssh -X remote_host to activate the x11 tunneling
[18:47] <whlai> right
[18:47] <whlai> ok
[18:47] <whlai> one sec
[18:47] <ephemeral> qqqq
[18:47] <Jordan_U> whlai: That will not help you usefully run xrandr.
[18:47] <akik> whlai: but it will just enable you to start apps on the remote_host and display them on your own display
[18:47] <whlai> lol
[18:47] <whlai> ok
[18:47] <whlai> I needed the X flag
[18:47] <whlai> xrandr returns two monitors
[18:48] <whlai> HDMI1 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 531mm x 299mm
[18:48] <whlai> VGA1 connected 1920x1080+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 531mm x 299mm
[18:48] <whlai> VIRTUAL1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[18:48] <nissin_> can anyone read this
[18:48] <nissin_> am i typting to myself
[18:48] <nissin_> or am i not
[18:48] <Jordan_U> nissin_: Yes we can see you fine.
[18:49] <whlai> akik, zrandr returns info now where it did not before without -X
[18:49] <whlai> xrandr*
[18:49] <nissin_> Jordan_U how do i switch off BLUETOOTH
[18:49] <xentity1x> Hi I'm having trouble set the owner of a folder to postgres. Can anyone help?
[18:49] <akik> whlai: xrandr is talking to your own display setup
[18:49] <whlai> ohhhh
[18:49] <whlai> i see
[18:49] <xentity1x> i've tried chown -R postgres:postgres /database/postgresqldata but it still says permission denied
[18:49] <Jordan_U> nissin_: I don't know. If I did I would have answered your query the first time.
[18:50] <whlai> ok
[18:50] <whlai> sooo... what do I do now?
[18:50] <nissin_> must be a bug then
[18:51] <jake__> Hi - I am trying to install a Netgear A6200 wi-fi card Windows 10 driver on Ubuntu 14.04 desktop.  The .inf seems to have installed with ndiswrapper and ndisgtk shows the hardware as "present" but ifconfig only shows wlan0, the other built-in wifi card.  Can someone help me attach the A6200 driver to Ubuntu?
[18:51] <whlai> why does xrandr return "can't open display?"
[18:51] <whlai> akik, do you know how I can fix?
[18:51] <akik> whlai: what do you want to accomplish?
[18:51] <Jordan_U> whlai: Install screen on their system then have *them* open a gnome-terminal window and run "screen". Then you run "screen -x" or possibly "screen -xd" (the latter of which will diaconnect their terminal from screen).
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> nissin_  sudo sysv-rc-conf
[18:51] <Gallomimia> you can't use windows drivers for linux
[18:51] <whlai> I want two monitors akik
[18:52] <whlai> Jordan_U, install "screen"?
[18:52] <jake__> Gallomania: Check out ndiswrapper
[18:52] <Jordan_U> jake__: Forget the ndiswrapper ever existed.
[18:52] <nissin_> MonkeyDust service not Found
[18:52] <nissin_> command **
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> nissin_  install it, first
[18:53] <Jordan_U> jake__: Trust me. You don't want it.
[18:53] <nissin_> monkey dust
[18:53] <nissin_> I have a menu here in front of me
[18:53] <jake__> Jordan_U: Okay, how else can I install the wi-fi adapter with only windows drivers?
[18:53] <nissin_> what do i do now...
[18:53] <whlai> Jordan_U: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/2' - please check.
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> nissin_  disbale the service you don't want
[18:53] <whlai> that's what "screen" returns
[18:54] <nissin_> MonkeyDust , this is all well but what if i want to use bluetooth one day?
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> nissin_  turn it back on
[18:54] <nissin_> using sudo sysv-rc-conf ?
[18:54] <nissin_> or can i do in through the GUI
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> nissin_  yes
[18:54] <nissin_> cant i use the GUI ?
[18:55] <Jordan_U> jake__: I usually have to repeat this many times to users who have found ndiswrapper, this is the last time I will for you today. If there are no native drivers then you have to buy a new card. Do not use ndiswrapper; it will only end in fruatration and a further broken system.
[18:55] <pascal> hi, here is my screenshot of gnome http://imgur.com/tghulr6
[18:56] <nissin_> MonkeyDust thank you but i hope this wont come back to bite me
[18:56] <Jordan_U> jake__: That said, there may in fact be native drivers available for your card.
[18:56] <akik> whlai: so you made a dd image of your installation and copied it to anohter disk, then sent the new disk somewhere to be installed into another machine?
[18:57] <whlai> akik, yes
[18:57] <jake__> Jordan_U: Okay, I am considering getting a new card -- it wouldn't be super expensive -- but I just wanted to see if there's a way to use the card that I have.  Native drivers would be nice, so I wouldn't have to use ndiswrapper.
[18:57] <akik> whlai: is the another machine same model than yours?
[18:57] <whlai> Jordan_U: screen, as user, returned "Screen version 4.03.01 (GNU) 28-Jun-15"
[18:57] <whlai> akik, no
[18:58] <Jordan_U> !screen | whlai
[18:58] <whlai> Hordan_U: ?
[18:58] <Jordan_U> whlai: Great, then it worked. Do exactly as I specified or read more about what screen is.
[18:59] <whlai> Jordan, which user should I be?
[18:59] <whlai> any ssh user?
[19:00] <whlai> because I currently get: There is no screen to be attached.
[19:00] <Jordan_U> whlai: The same user as they are graphically logged in as.
[19:00] <whlai> but when I just run "screen" as ssh user, I get the right return
[19:01] <whlai> doesn't work when I su to that username (user logged in)
[19:01] <jake2> Jordan_U: Hi this is jake/jake2. Can you provide any pointers to finding a native driver for the Netgear A6200 wi-fi adapter?
[19:01] <whlai> also, that person is an ldap user
[19:02] <siddharth> #python
[19:03] <whlai> Jordan_U: when I am ssh as admin (not the user) with -X, I can get a return (same as them) when executing "screen"
[19:03] <whlai> whensu as them and running again, I get /var/run/screen/S-mwilloughby/4982.pts-19.16: No such file or directory
[19:03] <whlai> su*
[19:03] <Jordan_U> whlai: Do not run "screen" yourself.
[19:03] <snfgf> How do I install a .deb?
[19:04] <snfgf> O.O
[19:04] <whlai> what should I do, then?
[19:05] <Jordan_U> whlai: I need to go. If you had followed my exact instructions you would be sharing a shell with them, and be able to run xrandr usefully (affecting their Xorg).
[19:05] <whlai> ok
[19:05] <whlai> thanks
[19:06] <Jordan_U> whlai: So now I recommend researching what screen is and how to use it, and make sure that they initiate the screen session from a gnome-terminal window. If you initiate it then you won't be able to usefully run xrandr.
[19:09] <cstcyr__> I'm trying to disable ntpupdate on linux mint?
[19:09] <cstcyr__> I've tried adding exit 0 to the rc file
[19:09] <cstcyr__> I've tried adding a host for ntp.ubuntu.com to localhost
[19:09] <cstcyr__> time is still updating every minute or so
[19:10] <mcphail> cstcyr__: this is #ubuntu, not mint support
[19:11] <softgooch> ohh crap
[19:11] <softgooch> hiiiii
[19:12] <Prometheian> Is there a way for me to run a command in shell as its own process? I want to run 'npm start' in a certain directory and not have it lock down my shell.
[19:13] <ioria> &
[19:13] <Prometheian> "nohup npm start &" ?
[19:13] <ioria> try without nohup
[19:14] <Prometheian> Oh, awesome!
[19:15] <akik> nohup is used to tell the process not to quit. it's useful sometimes
[19:18] <Prometheian> Works, thanks a bunch! :)
[19:19] <ioria> yA'rWcme
[19:20] <whlai> akik, I used screen to attach the monitor that was disconnected
[19:20] <whlai> what do I do now?
[19:20] <whlai> xrandr sees one monitor
[19:21] <akik> whlai: are you now connected to the other person's screen session? if you run xrandr -q do you get the display information "from the other side" ?
[19:21] <whlai> yes, I do
[19:23] <akik> whlai: can you pastebin xrandr -q ?
[19:23] <whlai> skik, give me a minute please
[19:24] <whlai> akik*
[19:24] <akik> whlai: also /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:28] <whlai> akik: http://pastebin.com/Y3Tvea06
[19:30] <n1md4> Hi.  I have ubuntu 16.04 running a gtx980 and nvidia-361 driver. There are 2 external monitors connected, and the laptop screen; so 3 displays in total.  I have had all 3 working, but during a recent upgrade to nvidia-364 things broke, and after rolling back, I can only get output on the 2 external monitors - even if I boot without them connected!
[19:30] <n1md4> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17070833/
[19:30] <n1md4> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17070802/
[19:31] <whlai> akik: http://pastebin.com/CjXxmGnR
[19:31] <OerHeks> n1md4, most laptops have a FN key, internal/internal + external/external only, .. try to toggle that key
[19:32] <OerHeks> and wait 5 seconds while switching
[19:33] <n1md4> OerHeks: That was a nice try!  Thought you got it then, but it's not making a difference.
[19:34] <OerHeks> n1md4, oke, then it is a serious bug, thanks for testing
[19:34] <Ben64> n1md4: try hitting "detect displays" in nvidia-settings after doing that
[19:34] <n1md4> I say no difference, when I toggle it it locks the screen - needing a password to unlock.
[19:34] <CoolGuy__> How do you upload images through irssi client chat?
[19:34] <whlai> akik: http://pastebin.com/CjXxmGnR  http://pastebin.com/Y3Tvea06
[19:35] <Ben64> CoolGuy__: upload them to imgur.com or similar, then post the link
[19:35] <akik> whlai: xrandr only shows one display as connected
[19:35] <whlai> yes
[19:35] <whlai> I know
[19:35] <akik> whlai: xorg is nowadays quite automatic
[19:35] <n1md4> Ben64: meh, no difference :-\
[19:36] <Ben64> :(
[19:36] <akik> whlai: it should show a second display if it's really connected. is it connected with dvi or hdmi?
[19:36] <n1md4> It's not a bug either, it's a config error, as I've had it working in the driver I'm currently running.
[19:36] <whlai> akik: this is screen - http://pastebin.com/QP2YK7mT
[19:37] <ioria> CoolGuy__, from command line you can try this script http://paste.ubuntu.com/17070953/   takes the img path as argument
[19:38] <akik> whlai: for some reason there are two existing screen sessions. you need to specify which you want to connect to
[19:38] <whlai> ok. how?
[19:38] <CoolGuy__> Ok, thanks.
[19:38] <CoolGuy__> http://imgur.com/iQkFAhR
[19:38] <netameta> how do i change sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT to also allow output for that addreess
[19:38] <akik> whlai: "screen -x 5188.pts-21.16" or "screen -x 4947.pts-18.16"
[19:39] <whlai> wait, there should only be one??
[19:39] <whlai> i attached the second via screen
[19:39] <whlai> because it was not attached
[19:39] <akik> whlai: is there any local support person on the other site?
[19:39] <ioria> CoolGuy__, it's ok
[19:39] <akik> whlai: well your output shows two separated screen sessions
[19:40] <whlai> no, just auser I can walk through
[19:40] <whlai> which output?
[19:40] <whlai> from screen?
[19:42] <norbou> Hi guys
[19:42] <norbou> can you help me with tar please?
[19:43] <geoff_> norbou: don't ask to ask just ask =D
[19:43] <curlyears> just state your problem and ask your question, norbou
[19:43] <akik> whlai: you can attach to the sessions with "screen -r 5188.pts-21.16" or "screen -r 4947.pts-18.16"
[19:44] <akik> whlai: really not sure why there are two. they were started 10 minutes from each other
[19:45] <Natillas> hi
[19:45] <akik> whlai: to get into the same session started by your remote user, use "screen -x session"
[19:46] <norbou> i have large tar backup on usb drive. I made a ext4 partition for extraction, but it is too small, so i need to extract first half and second half from /media/sdd1/homes.tar to sda1. Filenames contains non ascii chars.
[19:46] <Natillas> rename the partition to ntfs
[19:47] <reisio> ...
[19:47] <reisio> norbou: what now?
[19:48] <geoff_> norbou: hrm i am not sure if you can specifically get "half" of it.. i think you will need to create a list of files you want manually
[19:48] <geoff_> it might be easy depending on what the directory structure looks like
[19:48] <bprompt> norbou:     if you know the ext4 partition is too small, why didn't you make it big enoug to hold the .tar contents in the first place?
[19:48] <n1md4> Upgraded to nvidia-367 and still no laptop display in X
[19:48] <reisio> n1md4: how 'bout nouveau?
[19:49] <norbou> i dont have larger linux drive
[19:49] <n1md4> reisio: tried that, it wouldn't boot lightdm
[19:49] <geoff_> norbou: you can do things like `tar -xf homes.tar some/files/*`  then later `tar -xf homes.tar some/other/files/*`
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> norbou  so the problem is not tar, but space for your files?
[19:49] <norbou> When i untar to smb or ntfs, filenames are broken
[19:49] <norbou> bad charset
[19:50] <reisio> n1md4: sure it would
[19:50] <norbou> a have large space on ntsf or smb network
[19:50] <bprompt> norbou:     that can happen, yes, characters supported for a filesystem, may not be supported by another, yes, just because ext4 can use say utf-16 characters, doesn't mean fat32 or ntfs or ExtFS would
[19:51] <reisio> norbou: it's more likely that your mount is configured improperly, and the chars are actually fine
[19:51] <reisio> anyway
[19:51] <reisio> what's in this tar that you need?
[19:52] <norbou> i think it is good plan to extract some subfolders to ext4 and move it on ntfs and then do the rest. bu how please?
[19:53] <reisio> none of that makes sense :p
[19:53] <norbou> i tryed ARK and xarchiver, it doesnt extract nothing...
[19:53] <reisio> what's in the tar that you need right now?
[19:53] <bprompt> norbou:     is a good plan, if you don't have any filenames character issues, besides, keep in mind that ntfs as well as fat32, won't keep permissions, so.... if you don't have any filenaming issues and permissions concern, that may work, yes
[19:54] <bprompt> norbou:    if you do have those concerns though, then that doesn't work
[19:54] <bprompt> norbou:    looks good on paper though
[19:55] <norbou> bpromt> great, i dont need to keep permissions
[19:55] <norbou> i have to try it from command line
[19:55] <bprompt> norbou:     well, by your own sayings, you said you do have filename issues, so, your plan works if you're untarring to a ext3 or ext4 partition
[19:56] <bprompt> norbou:    you could, just run an app like say   Xarchiver and pick and choose which files you want untarred to where
[19:57] <Fabou> hi everyone
[19:57] <bprompt> allo
[19:57] <Fabou> could anyone help me with nas configuring?
[19:57] <norbou> xarchiver freezes wit so large tar
[19:58] <geoff_> norbou: i told you.. its quite easy.. you do `tar xf <thetarfile> path/to/internal/files/*`
[19:58] <norbou> i have to recover data for 140 users...
[19:59] <bprompt> norbou:    doesn't nautilus open .tar files like folders anyway?
[20:00] <geoff_> norbou: look here: http://superuser.com/questions/504798/extract-specific-files-in-a-tar-archive-using-a-wildcard
[20:01] <asdf-> /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, /dev/sda5 ... in gparted, sda5 is under sda2 and it is unreadable... how can i reset the partition?
[20:01] <asdf-> sda5 has all of the data
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> asdf-  can you not mount sda5 ? what happens when you try
[20:04] <norbou> tar -xf /media/sdd1/homes.tar kancelar to /media/sda1/homes
[20:04] <norbou> like this?
[20:05] <norbou> sorry i dont speak linux
[20:06] <reisio> norbou: what're you trying to do?
 xarchiver freezes wit so large tar .. it turns grey, but keeps on working, be patient.
[20:07] <norbou> tar from what target?
[20:08] <geoff_> norbou: if you wanted to extract the folder kancelar from /media/sdd1/homes.tar to a folder called /target it would look like this:  `tar -C /target -xf /media/sdd1/homes.tar kancelar`
[20:09] <geoff_> norbou: if you do tar -tvf /media/sdd1/homes.tar you can see the contents of the tar file
[20:09] <norbou> ok, i think ark is working, thank you OerHeks
[20:10] <norbou> thank you geoff_
[20:13] <nname31> hello, how can change usb volt output from terminal?
[20:14] <OerHeks> nname31, never heard someone wanted that
[20:15]  * OerHeks is not even going to search for such command
[20:16] <NabenRaj> Sahurr2
[20:16] <NabenRaj> Bangun
[20:16] <LuckyTux> What's difference if I have one partition for all or if I have separate partitions for /home /var and /tmp ?
[20:16] <NabenRaj> Sholatlah Engkau Sebelum Kau KuSholatkan
[20:16] <geoff_> nname31: i don't think you can do that without loading in a different driver
[20:16] <geoff_> unless perhaps there are a couple presets?
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> LuckyTux  if you have a separate /home, you personal files stay untouching when you reinstall ubuntu
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> untouched*
[20:17] <HackerII> the only thing you can do is shut it on and off
[20:17] <reisio> LuckyTux: for most people, including for you, the difference is that in the latter situation you've unnecessarily complicated things
[20:18] <HackerII> its a fixed 5 volts
[20:18] <Cablegunmaster> ssh question , I have a Pi and wanna know how to check the ssh connection from the outside :o
[20:18] <reisio> LuckyTux: it used to be, and still is to a certain extent, that you could use special, distinct filesystems for each section of the OS for performance gains
[20:18] <reisio> almost nobody does this anymore
[20:18] <LuckyTux> Thanks for the help guys(:
[20:18] <reisio> because hardware and filesystems have come so far
[20:19] <Cablegunmaster> how to check SSH from the outside :)?
[20:19] <nname31> ok very thx
[20:19] <reisio> Cablegunmaster: hrmm?
[20:20] <brelod> Cablegunmaster: do u mean outside of your router?
[20:20] <brelod> outside of LAN?
[20:22] <Cablegunmaster> yep brelod
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> Cablegunmaster  do you mean 'test ssh' ?
[20:22] <Cablegunmaster> outside of lan wanna make it open so I can see it on Wan network
[20:22] <brelod> Cablegunmaster: u have to forward a port in the router to the Pi
[20:23] <Cablegunmaster> does it matter which port?
[20:23] <brelod> no
[20:23] <geoff_> Cablegunmaster: brelod yes it does
[20:23] <geoff_> you have to forward the port that ssh is on.. probably 22
[20:24] <OerHeks> if you use the 'standard' port 22 ..
[20:24] <brelod> ok yes, but you have to forward it to 22 or what port u r usin on Pi
[20:25] <Cablegunmaster> so how can I trace the whole route after the port forwarding :)?
[20:26] <brelod> Cablegunmaster: you can set ddns for it
[20:26] <norbou> is possible to take on of linux raid1 disk and mount it on another system to access data on it?
[20:26] <brelod> for example noip.com
[20:27] <Cablegunmaster> ddns?
[20:27] <geoff_> norbou: yes but make sure you mount it read only!
[20:28] <brelod> dynamic dns - you setup  domain name for the router because the ip of the router is always changed
[20:29] <norbou> nice! how can i mount it
[20:29] <brelod> (of course if u r using dynamic ip served by your ISP)
[20:29] <moppy> Hi. Is it normal to have ecrypt-fs running on a Trusty server without disk encryption? I'm investigating poor disk performance.
[20:29] <lapion> Hi, what's the current status of ubuntu when using nividia with the nouveau driver ?
[20:30] <makara> hi. Why do I need to unplug/plug Samsung LED display from laptop (Lenovo Ubuntu 16.04) in order for display to be detected? Any programmatic method?
[20:30] <brelod> Cablegunmaster: then u can for example: ssh myrouter.ddns.net
[20:30] <theseb> /are pbuilder and backportpackage to install NEWER package than is
[20:30] <theseb>          normally allowed for a distro?  [15:29]
[20:30] <theseb> *** greycat<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit: Quit: This time the
[20:30] <theseb>     bullet cold rocked ya / A yellow ribbon instead of a swastika
[20:30] <theseb> *** asc232<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has quit: Remote host closed the connection
 i built libcrypto++ that way....if i wanted to undo the damage
[20:30] <lapion> Because I get dual screen but ubuntu incists that it's running unaccelarated.
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> !nouveau | lapion start here
[20:31] <lapion> !nvidia
[20:31] <theseb> test
[20:31] <theseb> sorry....tried to ask if backportpackage installs newer packages than allowed and if can backout
[20:31] <theseb> i.e. purge and go back to official packages
[20:31] <theseb> yes?
[20:33] <moppy> According to top, I have `ecryptfs-kthrea` running and I don't understand why. There is no disk encryption in use on this server. Is it safe to uninstall?
[20:34] <kgee> I've moved to xenial LTS, and need a package that is not included. (it is "proposed" but not available). Is it wise to add the older trusty repository to get the older version I used to depend on?
[20:34] <reisio> moppy: should be, but it might be re-installed as a dep the same way it already was
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> kgee  no, that's not wise ... what package?
[20:35] <kgee> MonkeyDust: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+package/libjitsi-jni
[20:38] <lapion> previous versions on ubuntu would run nouveau without a hitch..
[20:39] <moppy> reisio: Yea you're right. It appears to be required for libpam-mount, and I can't remove libpam-mount.
[20:40] <reisio> I'm sure you can un-require it, it's just more work
[20:40] <reisio> it's not as simple as merely removing it and considering it gone forever
[20:40] <moppy> reisio: I just don't understand why it's *running* though. Ah well.
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> kgee  yes, it's removed, but there's this ... https://jitsi.org/Main/Download#stableline
[20:41] <reisio> moppy: because using ecryptfs in various ways is supported by the installer
[20:43] <moppy> reisio: Still don't see why it needs to be _running_ if not used. I guess I need to first find out if it's the thing that's causing the poor disk performance, then find out why it's actually _running_ on already installed systems  that arent using encryption
[20:43] <kgee> Thanks, MonkeyDust. I didnt catch that. I'll ahve a look
[20:44] <superguest_> Where can I view network shares in 16.04?
[20:45] <superguest_> smb shares
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> superguest_  in   /run/user/1000/gvfs/
[20:46] <moppy> superguest_: shares you are connected to, or shares you are hosting?
[20:47] <superguest_> moppy shares I am connected to.
[20:47] <reisio> moppy: lots of things are preconfigured but not used
[20:47] <superguest_> MonkeyDust in a gui please
[20:47] <reisio> your kernel is enormous
[20:47] <reisio> it's covering the majority of bases
[20:47] <reisio> again, you can get rid of it if you want, it's just gonna be work
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> superguest_  it's the same, open a file manager and navigate to   /run/user/1000/gvfs/
[20:48] <superguest_> Monkey _Dust it's an empy folder for me.
[20:49] <Cablegunmaster> ddns goes to far brelod
[20:49] <Cablegunmaster> first just want to try a IP login system :p
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> superguest_  install and use 'gigolo', it's handy to connect to shares
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> superguest_  then you can see them in your file manager
[20:51] <jake__> wow old school chat room
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> jake__  i even remember vistiong actual pubs
[20:51] <jake__> the touch the feel of cotton, the fabric of our lives
[20:51] <jake__> a/s/l
[20:52] <rleigh> Hi folks.  I've been attempting to convert a 16.04 install to boot with ZFS using https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Ubuntu-16.04-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem for reference, as well as similar pages.
[20:52] <rleigh> I've got a pool and efi boot partition set up.  But I can't for the life of me get GRUB to boot the system.
[20:52] <jake__> this reminds me of aol
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> jake__  this is the ubuntu support channel, no social chat
[20:52] <rleigh> Question: Is it technically possible to boot to a ZFS root with UEFI (with /boot on the pool)?
[20:53] <rleigh> The advice on this point seems mixed.  Ideally I'd like it so I can have a coherent snapshot of the whole system state, which I can send off for backup/archival.
[20:54] <moppy> superguest_: Look at /proc/mounts. It should be everything.
[20:56] <AppleBanana> Hi folks.
[20:56] <AppleBanana> I'm having issues using my trackpad, I'm using the newest version of Lubuntu, fresh install.
[20:57] <superguest_> moppy okay tahnks
[20:57] <AppleBanana> The trackpad doesn't work, and an external mouse does.
[20:58] <moppy> AppleBanana: I've seen that happen a lot on chromebooks due to not having a trackpad driver loaded. Are you on chrome?
[20:58] <AppleBanana> No. It's an Acer.
[20:59] <AppleBanana> Aspire ES1-c88m
[21:00] <moppy> have you done the usual lspci, lshw to check if the hardware is detected and a driver is loaded? and xinput?
[21:01] <AppleBanana> The usual? Uh, I'm not familiar with how to do that.
[21:01] <AppleBanana> Windows user. x3
[21:02] <moppy> AppleBanana: Ah. xinput in a terminal will tell you if it's picked up. lspci will show you if the driver is detected. lshw will tell you how the hardware is seen. I'm too high at the moment to write a procedure but Im sure others here can :)
[21:03] <moppy> i'll brb later
[21:03] <AppleBanana> moppy: What poison? ;3
[21:07] <AppleBanana> Back. So problem is that trackpad is not functioning, how do I make it work? I'm kind of fresh off the Windows boat, so help would be appreciated.
[21:08] <boriseto> Might get bashed for this question, but does anyone know if there is a twitter app that uses the messaging indicator for notifications?
[21:10] <whlai> akik, still there?
[21:10] <whlai> sorry, I had meeting w boss
[21:10] <whlai> haven't fixed shite yet
[21:11] <whlai> I already have a terminal session "as the user" not as an su
[21:14] <Breetai> How can I make the live CD reboot without the "Press Enter" thing at the end?
[21:17] <Nytician> Hi I'm trying to get wine running with a fully offline version of Ubuntu I've installed all the required dependencies and wine but there's no command or mouse drop down option what have I missed?
[21:19] <xangua> boriseto: no indicators, but I believe corebird can show unread messages count in the launcher icon
[21:20] <xangua> !appdb | Nytician
[21:21] <marklyford> is this the best channel to ask about getting an app developed and getting advice for the best of doing it ?
[21:21] <costis> I dont think so marklyford
[21:22] <marklyford> ok thanks any suggestions as to best channel to get into for that ?
[21:22] <marklyford> Ive tried asking in the #conky channel but not getting much back
[21:22] <costis> Are you developing an app?
[21:23] <marklyford> im not but I want one developing for my own use primarily
[21:23] <costis> marklyford: Did you choose a programming language?
[21:24] <marklyford> no :) all I know it what I need :) I started using ubunutu only last week and love it and want to use it as my main OS
[21:24] <marklyford> Like i say i thought about rying to get a conky widget or theme developed but not had much luck in that channel getting any advice or finding someone to do it
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> !manual | marklyford
[21:25] <marklyford> can i post what I need ? (its pretty simple)
[21:25] <AppleBanana> Hi, I would like some help with my Trackpad. It isn't working. My computer is Acer ES1-C88M. I am running the newest version of Lubuntu.
[21:25] <AppleBanana> An external mouse is working but not the trackpad.
[21:25] <marklyford> thanks @ubottu but Im already familiar with things now but Im looking at getting this app developed for my own use
[21:26] <costis> marklyford: You have to choose a language first dude!
[21:26] <marklyford> If I post what I need here can you advise me what would be best language to do it in ?
[21:27] <k1l_> marklyford: better start in #programming
[21:27] <marklyford> ok thanks will do
[21:27] <costis> yep, try with #programming
[21:27] <marklyford> thanks everyone
[21:28] <ubuntu595> is 16.04 usable for now or still buggy?
[21:28] <k1l_> ubuntu595: its usable
[21:28] <AppleBanana> Can anyone assist me with my problem?
[21:28] <AppleBanana> :/
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu595  i've been using it since before the official release
[21:30] <Snackerr> Hey, if i enable "Automatic security AND regular updates"  for an older person, who i'm installing linux for--- is that "dangerous"-- e.g. if they do a "dirty shutdown"-- does that mess up something?
[21:30] <Snackerr> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates
[21:30] <ubuntu595> Is slow shutdown/reboot fixed? There was problem with networkmanager or something
[21:30] <Snackerr> brb
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu595  define 'slow'
[21:30] <costis> AppleBanana, is it your first time running Lubuntu?
[21:30] <k1l_> ubuntu595: no slow shutdown for me. but that seems to be an issue that depends on the exact hardware.
[21:31] <ubuntu595> its was counting 2 min everytime~
[21:31] <AppleBanana> Yes, I ran  updates though.
[21:31] <ubuntu595> before shut/restart
[21:31] <Cablegunmaster> puuuh connection closed by remote host :(
[21:31] <makara> hi. Why do I need to unplug/plug Samsung LED display from laptop (Lenovo Ubuntu 16.04) in order for display to be detected? Any programmatic method?
[21:31] <AppleBanana> costis: I updated everything through the manager.
[21:31] <Cablegunmaster> tomorrow gonna check again
[21:32] <costis> Hmmm, I think it's a driver compatibility problem
[21:32] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu595  in 16.04, you can use    systemd-analyze blame
[21:38] <monjamp> Hello
[21:38] <roque> hola
[21:38] <monjamp> I need help mounting my secondary HDD
[21:39] <boriseto> xangua, tnx, but yeah, I was going for indicators only (especially integrated in the messaging indicator)
[21:39] <monjamp> Ubuntu doesn't know how my secondary HDD was formatted so I can't mount it
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> monjamp  what's the output of    lsblk -f ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:40] <monjamp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17073860/
[21:41] <monjamp> sdb2 is what I want to mount
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> monjamp  ok ... sudo blkid | grep sdb
[21:43] <monjamp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17073916/
[21:44] <monjamp> I should mention that this drive was formatted in Windows 10
[21:45] <lapion> hmm the gpu-manager was the culprit
[21:47] <lapion> well actually apple 2007 efi was the culprit that made gpu-manager the defacto culprit
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> monjamp  sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sdb2
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> monjamp  -l simply means list
[21:49] <monjamp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17074043/
[21:51] <MonkeyDust> monjamp  other timezone, i have to go ... start here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1700580
[21:52] <monjamp> :( Well thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[21:58] <netameta> Anyone knows how comes google server bloocking outbound request to SMPT server ?
[22:13] <HackerII> got the right port ?
[22:28] <AppleBanana> My touchpad is not being detected for some reason on Lubuntu 16.04 Acer Aspire ES1-512 is what I am using.
[22:32] <nacc> AppleBanana: pastebin `xinput` and `dmesg` output?
[22:37] <AppleBanana> nacc: PM'd both outputs
[22:37] <HackerII> here. not pm
[22:37] <AppleBanana> oh
[22:38] <AppleBanana> Didn't want to cluster up chat :(
[22:38] <AppleBanana> Xinput: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17075237/ dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17075212/
[22:38] <lordcirth> Pastebin already takes care of clutter
[22:39] <Term1nal> Okay, we're ~2 months into 16.04 and my network location credentials still won't friggin' save.
[22:39] <Term1nal> Is anything being done about this?
[22:46] <AppleBanana> nacc: Did you find anything?
[22:49] <AppleBanana> Tried something, will see if it works. BRB
[22:50] <nacc> Term1nal: did you file a bug?
[22:52] <Guest26348> Hi, guys, does anyone know how to put armor on in minetest? I can't see myself in inventory. I've been over to that server, but nobody seems to be home.
[22:53] <Term1nal> Guest26348: you probably want #minetest
[22:53] <Term1nal> type /join #minetest in your IRC client
[22:54] <Guest26348> ya I got it, and a bunch of mods. I have made armor, but can't see myself to put it on. Does anyone play the game?
[22:56] <Guest26348> you mean type it right here in this same box I'm typing in? sorry dumb here
[22:56] <kilbith> hello, is there a reason why qt-sdk still relies on Qt4 packages ?
[22:56] <Term1nal> nacc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/541678 (not my report) but it says triaged, yet the behavior persists and I've updated as recently as an hour ago.
[22:57] <Term1nal> ohnvm, didn't look at the date.
[22:57] <Term1nal> 2010 jesus
[22:59] <Term1nal> Here's the most recent one I can find on upstream: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750034
[23:02] <AppleBanana> Back, problem wasn't solved apparently
[23:03] <AppleBanana> :/
[23:04] <nacc> AppleBanana: what did you try?
[23:04] <AppleBanana> I tried some stuff to get the Elantech Touchpad to go, something about something in grub, and reloading and loading a mouse driver
[23:05] <AppleBanana> Nacc: I pasted you the outputs, what did you see from those?
[23:09] <nacc> AppleBanana: i didn't see any evidence the kernel even sees the physical device (usually you'd see soemthing from i2c-hid, in my experience)
[23:09] <AppleBanana> So what should I do? :o It was working in Windows
[23:10] <nacc> AppleBanana: you could try `sudo lshw --class input` to see if it's detected at all
[23:10] <nacc> AppleBanana: please pastebin tha toutput
[23:10] <OerHeks> only fastboot in windows10 could prevent access to usb & touchpad like that
[23:11] <AppleBanana> It's giving me help for the lshw command, maybe you didn't write the command rite?
[23:11] <nacc> AppleBanana: sorry -class, not --class
[23:12] <nacc> AppleBanana: quick google, it's a bios issue
[23:12] <nacc> AppleBanana: chagne the Touchpad setting in bios from advanced to basic
[23:12] <AppleBanana> There is no setting like that in the BIOS
[23:13] <AppleBanana> Someone asked me to do that already
[23:13] <nacc> there was? dunno, i don't have it in front of me
[23:13] <nacc> AppleBanana: nothing like it under 'main' in the bios menu?
[23:13] <AppleBanana> No
[23:13] <HackerII> like OerHeks  said, maybe fast boot is enabled ??
[23:13] <AppleBanana> I will check to see.
[23:13] <OerHeks> and check for bios updates :-)
[23:14] <AppleBanana> How would I update BIOS when the BIOS update is Windows from manufacturer? XD
[23:14] <AppleBanana> It's in .exe
[23:15] <AppleBanana> anyways will check for/about fastboot and brb
[23:15] <HackerII> i hate acer machines
[23:16] <OerHeks> heh, just read a warning about unsafe biosupdates for acer and such
[23:16] <OerHeks> nm
[23:16] <HackerII> D`oh!
[23:16] <HackerII> i think that was asus
[23:16] <HackerII> http
[23:17] <OerHeks> yes, also
[23:17] <OerHeks> anyway, ubuntu has a long project running for updates bios and firmware ..
[23:17] <HackerII> cant wait
[23:17] <HackerII> ubuntu is gonna be the linux apple wished it was
[23:17] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate
[23:18] <HackerII> it works on some
[23:19] <OerHeks> somehow uefi should make this easier, which makes my neckhair grow an inch
[23:19] <HackerII> lol.
[23:21] <goddard> any google chrome snap?
[23:21] <goddard> steam snap?
[23:23] <OerHeks> sudo snap find : To list the available packages
[23:24] <AppleBanana> nacc: There is no Fastboot option
[23:24] <OerHeks> http://www.howtogeek.com/252047/how-to-install-and-manage-snap-packages-on-ubuntu-16.04-lts/
[23:26] <AppleBanana> 0erHeks: There is no Fastboot option in the BIOS
[23:26] <OerHeks> no not in the bios, in windows
[23:26] <AppleBanana> I don't have Windows installed on this PC
[23:26] <AppleBanana> Just Ubuntu
[23:33] <OerHeks> lot of bugreports about that elan touchpad & acer ES1-512 ... maybe it is an acer_wmi issue
[23:34] <AppleBanana> wmi?
[23:34] <AppleBanana> I don't know what you mean.
[23:41] <AppleBanana> 0erHeks: What should I do, I don't understand what you meant by an Acer_WMI issue
[23:46] <OerHeks> actually, it was just a mind thought, acer-wmi is more a wireless module ..
[23:46] <AppleBanana> Well, I guess I have to wait until the bug is fixed?
[23:46] <Queenslayer> Long time no ubuntu
[23:47] <AppleBanana> Cause there is probably a bug report up there.
[23:47] <OerHeks> no, just file a bugreport, or confirm this one, so it gets attention https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-wily/+bug/1562980
[23:49] <AppleBanana> How do I file a bugreport?
[23:49] <OerHeks> or https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-wily/+bug/1559364
[23:49] <OerHeks> !bug
[23:49] <OerHeks> but this happens on Xenial 16.04 right?
[23:50] <AppleBanana> yes
[23:50] <AppleBanana> Xenial.