[11:16] <drash> SageLOrd: it is yes, seems like more people are experincing trouble .. can i suggest you activate the hardy-proposed updates is software sources and try the 19 ? that works like a charm
[11:16] <flithm> Hey everyone... I'm experiencing bug 153868 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/153868)... it says the solution is to log into mysql as root and perform a command but I can't start the mysql server so I can't do this... anyone know how to reset the debian-maint password without a running mysql?
[11:16] <Krust> bazhang_I'm trying to install the amd64bits version wich is not yet compatible with Refit- However, I found a a way to tackle the issue bu using lilo
[11:16] <butchoy> post your question on the forum, and you can ask again here....
[11:16] <tigger_> What is the python function to publish an object?
[11:16] <SageLord> drash - I could try that
[11:16] <babolat> anyone please?
[11:17] <drash> SageLord: you can always fallback .. .just to make sure, thx
[11:17] <polishpaul> can anyone tell me - when using a RAID card, are the harddrives 'hidden' from the OS? meaning - if i have an 80 GB array on 250GB drives, can i see the whole 250 in the OS?
[11:17] <girard> tech0007: how do i know which partition is which - the partition just appears as disk-1 in nautilus
[11:17] <psypher246> babolat: i'm not sure i would just make a duplicate cron job to write the date and time to a file
[11:17] <_moro_bana_>  will i have to use the same uuid for the drives on grub? , i will need the clone to be bootable
[11:18] <tech0007> girard: sudo fdisk -l /dev/XXX
[11:18] <babolat> i didnt wuite get that psypher246
[11:18] <babolat> quite
[11:18] <SageLord> tech0007 - Should I do all the updates or just the Kernal updates?
[11:18] <psypher246> copy the line but instead of running that php file echo the date to a file
[11:19] <drash> _moro_bana_: yes .. sudo blkid will give you the uuid's
[11:19] <Zuzka> âñåì ïðèâåò!
[11:19] <Jaffarkelshac> on several occasions now, my computer just dies in the middle of doing something. how do i find out what is causing this.
[11:19] <bazhang_> Zuzka, english please
[11:19] <tech0007> SageLord: apt-get will grab all updates
[11:19] <Zuzka> ÿ íå çíàþ english, ÿ ñ ðîññèè
[11:19] <SageLord> tech0007 - Gotcha
[11:19] <bazhang_> !ru | Zuzka
[11:19] <SageLord> tech0007 - Updating njow
[11:19] <imaginativeone> how do I put a Trash folder onto my desktop?
[11:19] <_moro_bana_> drash: thanks
[11:20] <babolat> oh, ok psypher246.. there's no way to make sure just by command? as I understand crontab -l would just list my cron jobs
[11:20] <Jalathan> imaginativeone, there is a link on the bottom right corner of your screen if you are using gnome
[11:20] <Zuzka> ubottu õîðîøî ùàñ ïîñìîòðþ ññûëêó))) ñïàñèáî
[11:20] <___Alex___> what image software exists like xnview or acdsee?
[11:20] <drash> Jaffarkelshac: you could check whether there are any log files, perhaps .xsession-errors is a place to start
[11:20] <bazhang_> Zuzka, /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:20] <tech0007> ___Alex___: eog, gimp, picasa2
[11:21] <___Alex___> tech0007: image viewer for viewing tons of images?
[11:21] <harvey> i can't print anything using "lpr -P testprinter test.pdf" (and thus adobe reader doesnt work)- but i can print using evince. what is the difference?
[11:21] <tech0007> ___Alex___: i use picasa2, it keeps my albums of photo albums
[11:21] <Jaffarkelshac> imaginativeone: type gconf-editor in terminal, browse app> nautilus, desktop and tick trash icon visible
[11:21] <Jeztastic> OK, it's in the forum under General Help
[11:21] <girard> tech0007: ty, its sda1 - i can only see sda6 sda7 fda0 and sda0  in etc/fstab though? :S
[11:21] <Jaffarkelshac> i have been looking at logs, but nothing really
[11:22] <Keddy> Which IDE is good for writing C++ in Ubuntu(Gnome) ?
[11:22] <___Alex___> tech0007: eog stalls when it looks at a directory with 5000 files in it
[11:22] <Jeztastic> I've had loads of problems with the forum though, sometimes have to post 3 times before I get a reply.
[11:22] <Jeztastic> really fustrating
[11:22] <tech0007> girard: in fstab, which has vfat/ntfs and auto in it
[11:23] <tyler> from scp: "-p      Preserves modification times, access times, and modes from the original file." ..... would this include permissions as well? i see no other option to preserve permissions
[11:23] <tech0007> girard: do you not want to mount it automatically or just not show up on desktop?
[11:23] <Jaffarkelshac> imaginativeone: did it work?
[11:23] <girard> tech0007: both ideally
[11:23] <Jalathan> Jeztastic, a TON of stuff is posted on the forums, sometimes your post gets buried past the 1-3rd page before someone that knows how to help looks
[11:24] <Folken_> g'day everybody, thought somebody might knowt he answer to this question, is there a reason l7-filter-userspace isn't a ubuntu package?
[11:24] <tech0007> girard: its enough to substitute noauto in /etc/fstab for that partition
[11:24] <tech0007> Folken_: what's that?
[11:25] <Jeztastic> Jalathan: yeah, i know, but it's frustrating when you've got a problem yr totally stuck on. That's why I thought I'd try here
[11:25] <Jalathan> true
[11:26] <Jalathan> unfortunately, sometimes googling it is the only way to get an answer... -_-
[11:26] <Folken_> tech0007: a program that lets you filter packets based on protocol, so you can easily block/shape bit torrent etc
[11:26] <Jeztastic> tried that too!
[11:26] <girard> tech0007: http://pastebin.com/d5e9e57d is my fstab file
[11:26] <tech0007> Folken_: hmmm, that might be useful for me
[11:26] <Folken_> http://sourceforge.net/projects/l7-filter/
[11:26] <JackTheRipper> o_o
[11:26] <dessnr> what are the benefits to a custom kernel?
[11:26] <SageLord> Jalathan - I rarely ever have to go farther than google to solve a problem.
[11:27] <Folken_> I imagine it'd be useful to a lot of people, but I can only find it as source, which compiles fine but I'm just wondering if there are license issues as to why it's not a a package
[11:27] <Jeztastic> amazing what I've learned in a year abbout linux just from googling and on the forum
[11:27] <tigger_> is there a python method to publish an object?
[11:27] <tech0007> girard: its not in your fstab. what does sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda says?
[11:27] <SageLord> Jeztastic - Its amazing how much Linux teaches you about how computers do things
[11:28] <cyberfin> can anyone tell me where I'm going wrong here? When typing "insmod dvbloopback.ko" I get: insmod: error inserting 'dvbloopback.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module... please throw me in the right direction!
[11:28] <Jalathan> SageLord, true dat!
[11:28] <imaginativeone> Jaffarkelshak: worked like a charm
[11:28] <tech0007> SageLord: i second that!
[11:28] <girard> tech0007: ive added it to that pastebin page
[11:29] <Jaffarkelshac>  good to hear imaginativeone
[11:29] <Jeztastic> Sagelord: yeah - learned about BIOS, set up servers, god knows what else
[11:29] <SageLord> Jalathan - I have only been using linux sense november 07 and I feel like I have nearly double my knowledge of computers
[11:29] <Jalathan> Jeztastic, ok, looked at the log, what's the issue with the reconfiguring your xorg(.conf)? sometimes a second take on an issue through google can help alot
[11:29] <goanookie> and don't forget learning how a kernel is build :)
[11:29] <tech0007> dont see anything tahts vfat/ntfs
[11:29] <tech0007> girard:
[11:30] <forumdot> hmm, seems netselect-apt is still broken. is their an alternative console program to automatically or maunally select a apt mirror without editing /etc/apt/sources.list by hand?
[11:30] <imaginativeone> how do I switch from gnome to kde?
[11:30] <girard> tech0007: its mounted atm on my desktop - cant i find out that way somehow
[11:30] <Jalathan> SageLord, i can understand that.  i've been looking into getting it going for ~10 years now.  only within the last year and a half or so did i start to really delve into it
[11:30] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[11:30] <JackTheRipper> o_O
[11:30] <SageLord> imaginativeone - Just install the KDE package from synaptic
[11:30] <Jaffarkelshac> you  need to install kubuntu-desktop imaginativeone logg off and select it in sessions
[11:31] <rysiek|pl> imaginativeone: are you trying to install KDE?
[11:31] <Jaffarkelshac> it downloads a little over 100mb
[11:31] <imaginativeone> I think I already installed kde...
[11:31] <Jeztastic> It's a real simple problem, I'm not reconfiguring the file directly, I'm using the reconfigure program in 7.10
[11:31] <tech0007> girard: try this http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2007/10/25/hide-partition-icons-from-your-ubuntu-desktop/
[11:31] <imaginativeone> I just don't know how to switch to it
[11:31] <rysiek|pl> imaginativeone: a better way would be installing kubuntu-desktop - that way you'll get a nice kdm/gdm entry to choose from at system startup
[11:31] <imaginativeone> ugh :-(
[11:31] <Jaffarkelshac> imaginativeone: logg off, and click sessions and select it
[11:31] <tech0007> girard: right click properties on that icon and see what partition it is
[11:31] <SageLord> Jalathan - To be honest it reminds me of the days when I used DOS. When I used to putz around with autoexec.bat and config.sys etc.
[11:32] <imaginativeone> I'm newbie enough to lose all of my work up to this point
[11:32] <Jalathan> Jeztastic, *phew*, 7.10 is much easier to troubleshoot than 8.04 for this
[11:32] <Jalathan> SageLord, :P
[11:32] <Jeztastic> then I go a message via the terminal about thexorg.conf being backed up and I'm out of the program, can only type in the terminal
[11:32] <SageLord> Jalathan - But on a much larger scale :)
[11:32] <rysiek|pl> imaginativeone: if you have kubuntu-desktop package (and dependancies) installed, in kdm or gdm (the login screen - whichever you use) you have the "options" menu, and there - "session type". just choose KDE
[11:32] <ghostknife> x-session-manager has a bunch of apps i can only stop with kill. is there any other way?
 can anyone tell me where I'm going wrong here? When typing "insmod dvbloopback.ko" I get: insmod: error inserting 'dvbloopback.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module... please throw me in the right direction!
[11:32] <rysiek|pl> imaginativeone: what work, what have you lost?
[11:32] <ghostknife> a bunch of child apps
[11:32] <Jeztastic> pain! so simple, not the kind of thing you can google easy
[11:32] <Jalathan> Jeztastic, ok, did you type in startx?
[11:33] <rysiek|pl> cyberfin: instead of insmod, try modprobe
[11:33] <girard> tech0007: it gives me a uuid cant see a partition name though
[11:33] <Jeztastic> nope, still editing not got that for
[11:33] <Jeztastic> far
[11:33] <cyberfin> ok one sec
[11:33] <rysiek|pl> cyberfin: it *should* load the module dependancies
[11:33] <SageLord> imaginativeone - If you have already installed the package, just choose KDE from the sessions menu in the login screen
[11:33] <Jaffarkelshac> i am getting lines in vidoes when compiz is enabled, i have been trying but so far no fix except disable effects
[11:33] <Smegzor> I can't bring up administration/login window on one of my ubuntu machines.  I get a busy mouse then nothing.  How do I fix it?
[11:33] <cyberfin> ok... I get: FATAL: Module dvbloopback.ko not found.
[11:33] <Jalathan> ... kk
[11:34] <Jeztastic> x is not running
[11:34] <Jalathan> Jaffarkelshac, if you have an ati video are, you are not alone
[11:34] <rysiek|pl> cyberfin: sudo modprobe dvbloopback
[11:34] <ghostknife> cyberfin: for modprobe the module needs to be linked against the kernel source and put in /lib/modules/{kernel-version}
[11:34] <tech0007> girard: how many harddrives u have?
[11:34] <rysiek|pl> cyberfin: without the ".ko"
[11:34] <jettero> my notification area claims I need to reboot for security reasons, but I don't recall installing a kernel upgrade... is there a way to figure out a) what I should restart so I don't have to reboot and b) clear that notification from the notification area?
[11:34] <cyberfin> ah
[11:34] <girard> 1 physical
[11:34] <Jalathan> Jeztastic,  what's the error output that's given?
[11:34] <SageLord> welp
[11:35] <SageLord> upgrade is complete, rebooting
[11:35] <tech0007> girard: can u paste sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda?
[11:35] <Jaffarkelshac> Jalathan: i have nvidia
[11:35] <drash> Jaffarkelshac: vsync settings re-check might be worth a look, turning it off in compiz and activating it on your card natively is always a better option imho
[11:35] <rysiek|pl> guys, what option should I add to the kernel options in live-cd boot-up screen in hardy, so that it boots-up into text console?
[11:35]  * Jalathan smacks his head
[11:35] <cyberfin> ghostknife: can you ellaborate slightly? sounds liek you're shooting in my general directin :)
[11:35] <Jalathan> i'm out after this...
[11:35] <girard> tech0007: its on here aswell http://pastebin.com/d4f5d754c
[11:35] <Jalathan> Jaffarkelshac, sorry... <.<;;
[11:36] <Kira> wow
[11:36] <Jaffarkelshac> i think know how to enable it in nvidia-settings but where in compiz do i disable it drash
[11:36] <ghostknife> cyberfin: where did you get the module?
[11:36] <Kira> There's a freaking torrent going on over here in Hong Kong.
[11:36] <cyberfin> svn'd it
[11:36] <loller> i`ve got problems with update manage i got this problem trying to start updates E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[11:36] <loller> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[11:36] <drash> Jaffarkelshac: i'll check , don't remember right now, just a moment please
[11:36] <ghostknife> and how did you compile it?
[11:36] <rysiek|pl> cyberfin: did you try "sudo make install"?
[11:36] <loller> somebody to help me?
[11:36] <Jeztastic> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriteing possibly-customised configuration file: backup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.20080607110208
[11:36] <Jalathan> kk
[11:37] <rysiek|pl> ghostknife: ok, he's yours, seems like you're on it ;)
[11:37] <cyberfin> no rule to make target 'install'
[11:37] <Jalathan> you are in the cli Jeztastic?
[11:37] <drash> Jaffarkelshac: general > display options
[11:37] <Jalathan> no xserver?
[11:37] <ghostknife> cyberfin: how did you compile it?
[11:37] <Jeztastic> yes, on diff machine.
[11:37] <rysiek|pl> loller: fire-up the terminal/konsole
[11:37] <tech0007> girard: ok i see it, its sda1 sda2 or sda3
[11:37] <Jalathan> kk
[11:37] <Jaffarkelshac> i will give this a try, thanks drash
[11:37] <tech0007> you need to add those in fstab and add noauto
[11:37] <rysiek|pl> loller: and type: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:37] <natalisushka> Hi! I am having a problem with my mouse, after installing ubuntu 8.04 it works for a while and then it stops! I unplug it and plug it to another laptop, and it works, I plug it back to the first laptop and still doesn't move until I restart the computer! How can I solve this?
[11:37] <Jalathan> Jeztastic, type in 'startx'
[11:37] <Jeztastic> can't get from cli to the configure program
[11:37] <rage> Does anyone know of a terminal command that will bring up the shutdown dialouge?
[11:38] <girard> tech0007: its ntfs and 70ish gig so it must be sda1 i think
[11:38] <rysiek|pl> loller: and paste the whole output to the pastebin (not here!), and paste the link to it here
[11:38] <Jeztastic> k
[11:38] <tech0007> girard: yup
[11:38] <Jalathan> Jeztastic, so you can't use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'?
[11:38] <loller> rysiek|pl: i already do this but it shows me this http://pastebin.ca/1040249
[11:38] <cyberfin> I got it from 'svn co http://opensvn.csie.org/sascng sasc-ng'
[11:38] <SageLord> tech0007 - Well, that did the trick. Now ALL my kernals show up all the way back to 12 :)
[11:38] <ghostknife> cyberfin: so you didn't compile it?
[11:39] <cyberfin> I initially had some dependency problems but after solving them this is the last bridge to cross
[11:39] <loller> rysiek|pl: something bad is happening wiht dpkg
[11:39] <Jeztastic> yes. was using, it flipped to the cli halfway through, and can't get back in to finish off
[11:39] <drash> SageLOrd: lol, you are a better archive than packages.ubuntu.com
[11:39] <ghostknife> cyberfin: when you speak to me, put my nick in front of the line, like I'm doing yours, this way my client highlights the line and I don't miss your messages like I've done twice
[11:39] <Jalathan> hrm, ok...
[11:39] <cyberfin> yes i did compile with ./configure; make module
[11:39] <ghostknife> cyberfin: paste the make file and read me file please
[11:39] <Smegzor> oh crap.  i've found a bug in hardy that has been logged as closed, cept I'm up-to-date and its alive and well :(
[11:39] <rysiek|pl> loller: I can see that. there's something wrong with AppArmour, but I haven't used it, so I am out :/
[11:39] <Jeztastic> started x now
[11:39] <cyberfin> ghostknife ok
[11:40] <loller> oh yeah xD
[11:40] <LimCore> ikonia: well ok the drift is now 8 sec
[11:40] <tech0007> SageLord: i keep at least 2 kernel versions
[11:40] <rysiek|pl> loller: ?
[11:40] <aloys> hi
[11:40] <waaaaah> DCC SEND LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL 0 0 0
[11:40] <LimCore> !ops waaaaah DCC exploit
[11:41] <girard> tech0007: i think ill jsut hide the desktop icon then :)
[11:41] <rysiek|pl> guys, how do I make the LiveCD start-up in text-only mode
[11:42] <tech0007> girard: ok, then
[11:42] <kahrytan> Anyone know how to fix Nvidia 7200 w/ nvidia driver?
[11:42] <LimCore> man, some router are shure developed by noobs.
[11:42] <girard> also - is it normal to ahve 2 swap partitions? :P
[11:42] <SageLord> tech0007 - Well thanks for your help
[11:42] <sultan> how to install gtalk in ubuntu
[11:42] <danza> rysiek|pl, it does exists an 'alternate CD' to do that
[11:42] <tech0007> girard: i guess not
[11:42] <tech0007> girard: u also use solaris?
[11:42] <SageLord> tech0007 - While I am here, I don't suppose you know anything about mplayer do you?
[11:42] <girard> nope
[11:43] <tech0007> SageLord: i use mplayer, why?
[11:43] <rysiek|pl> danza: (...) single (...). that's the bugger
[11:43] <SageLord> tech0007 - I get this annoying pause at the beggining of every file I play
[11:43] <girard> just xp and ubuntu
[11:43] <tech0007> girard: oh ok haha
[11:43] <aloys> how  can i  install xterm player on my desktop
[11:43] <cyberfin> ghostknife: no readme but i've pasted the Makefile
[11:43] <rysiek|pl> danza: I know there is an alternate, but I do not want alternate, I need a standard LiveCD, but I need to play with xorg.conf
[11:43] <kahrytan> Anyone know how to install Nvidia driver for 7200 in Hardy?
[11:43] <Jeztastic> ok, trying to start the terminal is crashing x now :(
[11:43] <tech0007> SageLord: it depends on your videocard, video output in mplayer preferences and the file you play
[11:43] <rysiek|pl> danza: hence - "single" is the way ;)
[11:44] <SageLord> tech0007 - I think it has something to do with my nvidia card/driver
[11:44] <cyberfin> ghostknife: here: http://pastecode.net/?action=viewpost&tag=2941
[11:44] <kahrytan> Anyone?
[11:44] <tech0007> SageLord: i heard you can have issues when compiz is on
[11:44] <girard> tech0007: is it possible to tel which 1 im using and delte the other - one is 500ish meg the other is 800 ish
[11:44] <SageLord> tech0007 - hmmm... there is also a delay when loading the program
[11:44] <girard> i thought swap partitions are limited to 500 meg so the 800 one is redundant?
[11:44] <ghostknife> cyberfin: what files are there? give me an "ls"
[11:45] <soundray> girard: no, the limit is 2GB
[11:45] <kahrytan> Anyone know how to install Nvidia driver for 7200 in Hardy?
[11:45] <icqnumber> i have installed kubuntu-desktop and it has changed my ubuntu splash screen, now at boot time kubuntu logo in blue colors is displayed and a blue loading bar at the bottom, so how can i change this splash to original one without uninstalling something?
[11:45] <rysiek|pl> kahrytan: and your Restricted Drivers Manager says what?
[11:45] <soundray> kahrytan: System-Administration-Hardware Drivers
[11:45] <kahrytan> That doesnt work
[11:45] <jettero> my notification area claims I need to reboot for security reasons, but I don't recall installing a kernel upgrade... is there a way to figure out a) what I should restart so I don't have to reboot and b) clear that notification from the notification area?
[11:45] <soundray> kahrytan: can you elaborate
[11:46] <tech0007> girard: if you have enough RAM, you dont need a very large swap or more than 1 swaps
[11:46] <cyberfin> ghostknife: auxserver   configure      dvbloopback     Makefile   sasc-ng   scripts
[11:46] <cyberfin> config.log  contrib        dvbloopback.ko  Makefile~  sc
[11:46] <cyberfin> config.mak  dvblb_plugins  FFdecsa         objs       sc_files
[11:46] <kahrytan> soundray,  as in, X doesnt start.
[11:46] <icqnumber> soundray, do you have an idea?
[11:46] <soundray> kahrytan: what's reported in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[11:46] <Flannel> icqnumber: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so then sudo update-initramfs -u
[11:46] <ghostknife> cyberfin: please give the full error message, and the URL to the web site where you got the dependencies and build instructoins
[11:46] <soundray> !usplash | icqnumber
[11:46] <Jalathan> Jeztastic, *sigh* i'm afraid that i am flat out unable to be of help, as my brain is fried...
[11:47] <tech0007> girard: you're using sda7 as swap based from your fstab
[11:47] <Jalathan> Jeztastic, i bid you good luck
[11:47] <kahrytan> soundray, I just upgraded my system and this stupid card doesnt even work with Ubuntu.
[11:47] <icqnumber> Flames, soundray, thank you people
[11:47] <girard> tech0007: 1 of those swaps is the real 1 ubuntu made when installing - the other 1 is something i think i made by accident :)
[11:47] <drash> jettero: check the 'updates' settings in 'software sources' .. you might have it on 'install security updates without confirmation'
[11:47] <soundray> kahrytan: are you sure? Is it listed on some incompatible list?
[11:47] <Jeztastic> OK, thanks
[11:47]  * Jalathan topples onto his bed and falls asleep...
[11:48] <SageLord> kahrytan - Nvidia should have drivers for linux
[11:48] <tech0007> girard: what does free -m say?
[11:48] <kahrytan> soundray, nvidia-glx-new doesnt work
[11:48] <ghostknife> cyberfin: also give me the output of "dmesg"
[11:48] <soundray> kahrytan: the LOG!
[11:48] <girard> tech0007: swap total 854
[11:49] <girard> so thats sda7 then
[11:49] <tech0007> girard: yup
[11:49] <cyberfin> ghostknife: error message is: insmod: 'error inserting 'dvbloopback.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module'  and instructions (albeit in swedish quite understandable) http://www.minhembio.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t194211.html
[11:50] <tech0007> girard: i only have 251 hehe
[11:50] <natalisushka> Hi! I am having a problem with my mouse, after installing ubuntu 8.04 it works for a while and then it stops! I unplug it and plug it to another laptop, and it works, I plug it back to the first laptop and still doesn't move until I restart the computer! How can I solve this?
[11:51] <soundray> natalisushka: is it a USB mouse?
[11:51] <natalisushka> soundray, Yes
[11:51] <tech0007> natalisushka: do you see the mouse when you do lsusb?
[11:51] <natalisushka> On a laptop
[11:51] <soundray> natalisushka: and when it stops working, do other USB devices stop working, too?
[11:51] <cyberfin> ghostknife: dmesg: http://pastecode.net/?action=viewpost&tag=2942
[11:51] <natalisushka> tech0007, How can I know which is the mouse?
[11:52] <ghostknife> cyberfin: check these posts: www.minhembio.com/forum/index.php?act=findpost&pid=1549901 and www.minhembio.com/forum/index.php?act=findpost&pid=1463762
[11:52] <natalisushka> soundray, I will check if other USB are working
[11:52] <tech0007> natalisushka: you might see the vendor/model etc
[11:52] <soundray> natalisushka: it should say that it is. Try lsusb when it is still working
[11:52] <cyberfin> ghostknife: will do, thnx
[11:52] <tech0007> tilda is so cool!
[11:53] <natalisushka> tech0007, I see 4 results at lsusb : Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[11:53] <natalisushka> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[11:53] <natalisushka> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 15d9:0a37
[11:53] <natalisushka> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[11:53] <FloodBot1> natalisushka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:53]  * _delcoyote hi
[11:54] <tech0007> natalisushka: whats to the right of 15d9:0a37
[11:54] <meet>  8-)
[11:54] <natalisushka> tech0007, Nothing
[11:54] <meet> hi sexy grils
[11:54] <bazhang_> meet not here
[11:55] <natalisushka> soundray, I am afraid other USB's are not working, I tried an mp3 with USB
[11:55] <meet> ane one like to chat with me woman
[11:55] <bazhang_> offtopic meet
[11:55] <tech0007> natalisushka: did you try restarting again?
[11:56] <soundray> natalisushka: that means that your laptops USB subsystem is causing the problem.
[11:56] <natalisushka> tech0007, I tried before but I would restart now and check.
[11:56] <natalisushka> soundray, I just figured that out, how can I fix that
[11:56] <natalisushka> ?
[11:57] <soundray> natalisushka: you could check for resource conflicts with 'cat /proc/interrupts'
[11:57] <SageLord> This mouse your using? Its not the touchpad is it?
[11:57] <natalisushka> soundray, What could the conflict be? How would I know if there is a conflict?
[11:57] <soundray> natalisushka: compare the output before and after it fails
[11:58] <natalisushka> soundray, I need to restart then
[11:58] <soundray> natalisushka: and see if any line containing ehci or uhci contains other stuff as well. Put both outputs up on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:58] <Oli``> Is there an app that can make sure a set of programs is always running (eg restart them if they crash)?
[11:58] <Jaffarkelshac> what causes --MARK-- in the logs?
[11:59] <bacardee> could someone walk me through my 64 bit ati driver install
[11:59] <DjViper> Oli``: cron
[11:59] <soundray> natalisushka: you could pastebin the first one now
[11:59] <soundray> natalisushka: then reboot
[11:59] <soundray> Jaffarkelshac: the logger not having received anything for a while
[11:59] <natalisushka> soundray, Ok I'll pastebin
[12:00] <Jaffarkelshac> thanks soundray
[12:00] <Oli``> DjViper: wouldn't that launch them again? And it also wouldn't be bound to the running X session
[12:00] <soundray> bacardee: System-Administration-Hardware Drivers
[12:00] <cyberfin> ghostknife: thanks for the help, I'm gonna give another shot later on; I'm getting grumpy and hungry cause of this! But at least I have somewhere to look now... :)
[12:00] <natalisushka> soundray, the first one is here: http://pastebin.com/m7d802ba1
[12:00] <soundray> Jaffarkelshac: in the absence of anything else, it shows you that the logger (and thus your machine) was alive at that point in time
[12:00] <natalisushka> soundray, I'll reboot now
[12:00] <ghostknife> cyberfin: ok
[12:00] <soundray> natalisushka: okay, see you in a bit
[12:00] <ghostknife> cyberfin: try ##linux as well
[12:00] <ghostknife> cyberfin: those guys are more clued up in linux in general
[12:01] <cyberfin> ghostknife: will do thnx
[12:01] <RldaGr8te> Hi
[12:02] <RldaGr8te> I saw your advert on sourceforge and was wondering how I can contribute to your project
[12:02] <jettero> drash: no, it was some update I clicked through, I'm sure, ...
[12:02] <LimCore> RldaGr8te: to which project
[12:02] <jettero> drash: I checked and it's not on install security without conf.
[12:02] <RldaGr8te> woops wrong room
[12:02] <soundray> bacardee: got it?
[12:02] <siccness_> sup chiefs
[12:02] <siccness_> whats going on?>
[12:02] <siccness_> all good?
[12:03] <bazhang_> !enter | siccness_
[12:03] <siccness_> what issues can I solve in #ubuntu?
[12:03] <drash> jettero: ok, that was the thing that sprung to mind when i saw your question
[12:03] <LimCore> siccness_: ubuntu related support
[12:03] <siccness_> im telling eveyrone right now, im the zone atm, im on fire, ill solve all problems within 30mins
[12:03] <bacardee> yes i got it
[12:03] <siccness_> so shoot the questions away
[12:03] <bacardee> but wheni try to enable extra desktop effects i get an error
[12:03] <_moro_bana_> drash: i have dd cloned the drive already, i know i have to edit the fstab and grub on the original. do i have to edit the fstab on the clone too?
[12:03] <bazhang_> siccness_, just sit back and wait please
[12:03] <siccness_> bacardee: logs >> pastebin
[12:03] <siccness_> ill solve it
[12:04] <bacardee> the composite extension is not available
[12:04] <soundray> siccness_: please write an open-source driver for me quickly that supports accelerated 3D on NVidia and ATI cards
[12:04] <_moro_bana_>  i have dd cloned the drive , i know i have to edit the fstab and grub on the original. do i have to edit the fstab on the clone too?
[12:04] <siccness_> soundray: work-around
[12:04] <siccness_> change drivers
[12:04] <siccness_> done, next problem
[12:04] <drash> _moro_bana_: yes that's the best way to make sure it's gonna work without glitches
[12:05] <tech0007> lol
[12:05] <LimCore> can I write an fstab entry that will mount LUKS partition (ask me for passphrase etc..?)
[12:05] <_moro_bana_> tech0007: is that for us
[12:05] <soundray> siccness_: you promised you were going to solve, not work around
[12:05] <siccness_> work-around is a solution
[12:05] <tech0007> _moro_bana_: siccness_
[12:05] <siccness_> its just a half-beeped one
[12:06] <bacardee> the composite extension blah blah
[12:06] <siccness_> i enevr said anything about properly solving a problem
[12:06] <siccness_> i keep it real man
[12:06] <bacardee> when i try to enable extra desktop effects
[12:06] <bacardee> ati x1950 pro
[12:06] <soundray> siccness_: you were leaning out of the window too far. I'll give you another chance. What really bugs me is bug #1
[12:06] <siccness_> bazhang_: >> pastebin champ
[12:06] <siccness_> ill solve it
[12:07] <Da_Putzler> hi folks
[12:07] <rysiek|pl> guys, need help here. I am trying to set-up hardy on an ati xpress 1250-fitted laptop; after starting the bootup all hanged - and I thought it's due to ati problems
[12:07] <rysiek|pl> BUT
[12:08] <Da_Putzler> If I uninstall something in Synaptic, and it wishes to remove Ubuntu-Desktop also, will i still be able to get proper updates if ubuntu-Desktop is missing ???
[12:08] <rysiek|pl> it seems like the KEYBOARD stops functioning after starting the bootup!
[12:08] <flo766> spricht hier einer deutsch ?
[12:08] <drash> siccness: what about this one concerning libhal shutdown failure ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=677329
[12:08] <soundray> flo766: nein, hier nicht, aber in #ubuntu-de
[12:08] <flo766> danke
[12:08] <rysiek|pl> it works AOK in BIOS, it works great in the boot-up screen, it virtually turns off after starting to boot
[12:08] <rysiek|pl> wtf
[12:08] <natalisushka> soundray, the second output after reboot is here: http://pastebin.com/m6efa1947
[12:08] <zaraba> hi, am wondering if anyone can help me with getting my FX360m graphics card working in Ubuntu 8.04?
[12:08] <LazyPower> When I execute sudo tasksel install lamp-server, i'm assuming it doesnt come with a preconfigured httpd.conf to handle php files?
[12:08] <tech0007> Da_Putzler: yup, its jsut a meta-package
[12:08] <natalisushka> tech0007, I rebooted and lsusb adds this: Bus 003 Device 003: ID 090c:1000 Feiya Technology Corp. Memory Bar
[12:09] <rysiek|pl> Da_Putzler: yup, but you will *not* be able to make a smooth dist-upgrade (from Hardy to Intrepid in half a year)
[12:09] <Da_Putzler> tech: so updates will be fine cause I wanna remove pulse-audio
[12:09] <soundray> natalisushka: okay, it's not a resource conflict. I think it might just be bad hardware.
[12:09] <rysiek|pl> heh, you are not alone with that one, Da_Putzler
[12:09] <Da_Putzler> rys: will prolly re-install whole system from CD anyhow... should be fine :)
[12:09] <natalisushka> soundray, You mean USB?
[12:09] <Da_Putzler> pulse is causing my flash to crash in firefox and opera...
[12:09] <tech0007> Da_Putzler: yup, as long as you know waht your doing
[12:09] <rysiek|pl> Da_Putzler: yup :)
[12:09] <soundray> natalisushka: you can get USB PCMCIA cards fairly cheaply. Would that be a solution?
[12:10] <Pretto> hi folks
[12:10] <soundray> natalisushka: yes, the USB hardware on your laptop
[12:10] <tech0007> natalisushka:  memory bar? is that a flash drive?
[12:10] <_moro_bana_> the path fro grub please
[12:10] <bacardee> I have my ati drivers installed, but when i try to enable extra desktop effects i get a composite error
[12:10] <zaraba> anyone able to help with getting a graphics card to work?
[12:10] <natalisushka> tech0007, it could be yes
[12:10] <LazyPower> When I execute sudo tasksel install lamp-server, i'm assuming it doesnt come with a preconfigured httpd.conf to handle php files?
[12:10] <soundray> _moro_bana_: you mean /boot/grub/ ?
[12:11] <tech0007> natalisushka: is your mouse plugged in? you see anyother in lsusb?
[12:11] <Smegzor> What is the console command to configure a network interface?  Ubuntu isn't aware of my network card for some reason.
[12:11] <natalisushka> tech0007, I didn't see anything that reffered to mouse, anyway, shorty after I used lsusb mouse again stopped working!
[12:11] <_moro_bana_> soundray: yes, its a path right, or is there a word for that?
[12:11] <soundray> _moro_bana_: no, path it is.
[12:11] <LimCore> how can I un-noobify ubuntu bootup? remove the splash,  make kernel bootup to be on VT1 not on VT8 etc?
[12:11] <natalisushka> tech0007, Yes, it's plugged, it worked the moment computer started, it stopped after I used lsusb
[12:11] <soundray> _moro_bana_: try 'echo $PATH'
[12:11] <Da_Putzler> thx guys... much appreciated
[12:12] <natalisushka> SO I guess it's really a USB hardware problem then.
[12:12] <drash> zaraba: what card ? and could you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log at paste.ubuntu.com ?
[12:12] <tech0007> natalisushka: hmmm,  tail /var/log/message ?
[12:12] <soundray> LimCore: use debian instead
[12:12] <rysiek|pl> guys, keyboard on my laptop stops functioning after boot-up started
[12:12] <huy> does anyone know how to fix firefox random crashes while using flash?
[12:12] <LimCore> soundray: I dont work in museum
[12:12] <bacardee> how do i force all sound to come through my usb headset, some things will go through at extemely loud and other things like firefox go through my speakers, and vlc is also going through my speakers
[12:12] <rysiek|pl> any ideas?
[12:12] <mdious> siccness_!
[12:12] <kahrytan> soundray, There is no log. X doesnt generate one.
[12:13] <natalisushka> tech0007, Here: http://pastebin.com/m3456a6ee
[12:13] <soundray> LimCore: that comment shows an extraordinary lack of knowledge
[12:13] <huy> kahrytan: what's your graphic card?
[12:13] <kahrytan> soundray,  When I try to use nvidia-glx-new, it goes from loading screen to blank screen
[12:13] <kahrytan> huy,  7200
[12:13] <LimCore> soundray: Im overall more happy with ubuntu, but I would like to have normal bootup. what you dont understand?
[12:13] <LazyPower> !lamp
[12:13] <drash> huy: install flash player 10 beta, look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4928900 (part B)
[12:14] <soundray> LimCore: I understand very well, and I dislike your attitude, so I will stop this conversation here.
[12:14] <huy> kahrytan: it maybe the graphic card problem. try the recovery, and run without graphic acceleration
[12:14] <LimCore> soundray: excelent; you cold also hold the first non-merritofical comment
[12:14] <MadHag> anyone know how to tell webcam programs to use the uvc driver instead of v4l?
[12:14] <kahrytan> huy, I am not using nivida drive now
[12:14] <_moro_bana_> soundray: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst if anyone needs it
[12:15] <MadHag> !uvc
[12:15] <natalisushka> tech0007, So?
[12:15] <huy> kahrytan: but you said you installed nvidia-glx-new
[12:15] <huy> drash: thank you
[12:15] <Smegzor> LimCore: edit menu.lst in /boot/grub, remove splash and quiet from the entries that have them.
[12:15] <LimCore> Smegzor: I did
[12:15] <whileimhere> I was wondering how difficult is it to hook a computer up to a TV with ubuntu?
[12:15] <kahrytan> huy, I had to turn it off to boot
[12:15] <tech0007> natalisushka: i see your flashdrive, but i dont see your mouse
[12:15] <LimCore> Smegzor: still on restart I get messages on vt8 and I get this progress bar
[12:15] <kahrytan> huy,  Didnt i just say the screen goes blank?
[12:15] <DjViper> whileimhere: what sort of gfx card do you have?
[12:16] <soundray> !tvout | whileimhere
[12:16] <drash> huy: you're welcome, hope it solves the issues
[12:16] <natalisushka> tech0007, although it didn't mount it!
[12:16] <tech0007> natalisushka: can you check if you can access your flashdrive in nautilus?
[12:16] <kahrytan> huy,  NV driver works
[12:16] <Smegzor> LimCore: every time I get kernel updates, I have to go back into menu.lst and edit them out again
[12:16] <tech0007> natalisushka: its sdb
[12:16] <LimCore> Smegzor: well I edited it now again, it doesnt have quiet nor splash
[12:16] <kahrytan> So Nvidia 7200 cards DO NOT work in Ubuntu
[12:16] <bacardee> why is it so complicated for everything ugh
[12:16] <LimCore> kahrytan: they probably work.  try reporting the bug
[12:16] <LimCore> kahrytan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+filebug
[12:16] <zaraba> drash: its an NVidia FX360m
[12:17] <kahrytan> LimCore,  No need
[12:17] <soundray> tech0007: I think it might be worth looking at natalisushka's dmesg output once the USB fails again
[12:17] <natalisushka> tech0007, it was unplugged, I plugged it but nothing happened
[12:17] <whileimhere> I dont have one yet. There is a used comp shop here where I live and the guy has 64 bit agp and pci cards used for $10
[12:17] <zaraba> the card and restriced drivers worked fine in 7.10 but it won't work in 8.04
[12:17] <huy> kahrytan: nvidia is horrible with ubuntu. my computer would randomly crashes with input devices responding. the only solution is not to install accelerated graphic
[12:17] <Smegzor> LimCore: well I dunno.  I'm a noob anyway :)  Those edits worked for me.
[12:17] <kahrytan> LimCore,  bug #197130
[12:17] <drash> zaraba: okay, could you paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log at paste.ubuntu.com and give us the link please ?
[12:17] <tech0007> soundray: yup, although im not realy expert at this, check thsi too.. paste the entire dmesg
[12:18] <soundray> kahrytan: are you running the realtime kernel?
[12:18] <kahrytan> soundray,  It's linked
[12:18] <LimCore> huy: I had same problems but rarerrlly
[12:18] <LimCore> huy: only on dual core... try newest drivers
[12:18] <Smegzor> Can someone tell me the command to configure a network (non-gui way).
[12:18] <tech0007> Smegzor: see man ifconfig
[12:19] <tech0007> Smegzor: network or network device?
[12:19] <Smegzor> I have a missing network device
[12:19] <huy> limcore: i did last week. same problem occured. i'm not using any driver and it's working rather smooth, no special effects though
[12:19] <Smegzor> its a 1 gigabit lan card that ubuntu has trouble detecting, not wireless.
[12:19] <kahrytan> Unless someone tells me something different with this card
[12:20] <natalisushka> tech0007, soundray, by the way, I am having another problem with my flashmemory. I am I copied some folders to it that contained files named with strange chars, and for that reason I am not able to erase these files even from trash! it even happened with the system, saved some similar files on another hard disk (fat23) and although I reinstalled the system 20 times I still can't get rid of these files from the system.
[12:20] <Woxdee> Smegzor: If you want it very dirty and simple from the commandline: 'ifconfig eth0 up <IP_ADDRESS>; route add default gw <IP_ADDRESS> ; echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> > /etc/resolv.conf"'  -- note that this will overwrite your resolv.conf (use double >> if you just want to append the data).
[12:20] <natalisushka> So can you help me now how to maybe format the flash memory at least from that?
[12:20] <LimCore> huy: well.. compalin to nvidia =)
[12:20] <zaraba> drash: am pretty new to Ubuntu, am getting a no such file when I attempt to do that
[12:20] <natalisushka> I have anther laptop to use USB
[12:20] <tech0007> natalisushka: what kind of files? you can jsut format the flashmemory.
[12:20] <Woxdee> Smegzor: That sets eth0 up with the <IP_ADDRESS> address and sets <IP_ADDRESS> as your internet gateway and nameserver.
[12:21] <soundray> natalisushka: you can partition and format flash memory with gparted
[12:21] <Smegzor> Woxdee: thanks.  Its a new install so I don't mind overwriting stuff (so long as I don't overwrite with Windows!)
[12:21] <natalisushka> tech0007, How? I tried removing them under sudo rm -r
[12:21] <soundray> !gparted | natalisushka
[12:21] <natalisushka> soundray, I tried it, it couldn't read it even!
[12:21] <tech0007> natalisushka: thanks soundray
[12:21] <natalisushka> I tried gparted and partman and failed!
[12:21] <huy> limcore: already did, apparently this is a problem with geforce 6k series
[12:22] <Woxdee> Smegzor: Just keep in mind that that command will have to be issued on every boot if you're planning to set it as a permanent config through these means.
[12:22] <soundray> natalisushka: did gparted not list your flash drive?
[12:22] <n6rej> how can I resize /tmp
[12:22] <n6rej> i was stupid and made it too small
[12:22] <Smegzor> eww
[12:22] <tech0007> natalisushka: try formating the flashdrive in another computer. your laptop may have usb problems
[12:22] <natalisushka> soundray, it listed, but I couldn't format it
[12:22] <Smegzor> hmm..  I'd much rather Ubuntu just used the card its got.
[12:22] <soundray> natalisushka: maybe it was mounted.
[12:22] <drash> zaraba: no problem, take your time and double-check the existence of /var/log/Xorg.0.log .. that should be there .. did you check via nautilus the file manager whether it is there ?
[12:22] <natalisushka> tech0007, I tried it on both laptops that I have
[12:22] <Sprengelmeyer> Hello ubuntu
[12:22] <rysiek|pl> guys, keyboard in my laptop drops dead as soon as LiveCD's kernel starts to boot. wtf?
[12:22] <natalisushka> soundray, mounted? shouldn't it be mounted? or unmounted?
[12:23] <tech0007> natalisushka: unmounted
[12:23] <kahrytan> Anyone know how to fix Nvidia 7200 card on linux?
[12:23] <Smegzor> Is there anything I can do from the desktop to get the card detected?
[12:23] <zaraba> drash: just found the file, give me a second to get everything copied and pasted in
[12:23] <natalisushka> soundray, By the way, it's an mp3 also, will formating cause any problem to the system?
[12:23] <Sprengelmeyer> Could somebody help me installing mysql on a VPS, I have fixed my memory issues but apparmor isnt loading correctly. Here is my aptitude output http://pastebin.com/d2d5752fb
[12:23] <drash> zaraba: ok
[12:23] <natalisushka> I mean to the mp3 system
[12:23] <tech0007> natalisushka: hmmm
[12:23] <Smegzor> actually.  whats the command to list all the detected devices?
[12:23] <soundray> kahrytan: when you  get to the black screen, can you switch to a virtual console with Ctrl-Alt-F2?
[12:23] <kahrytan> soundray,  nope
[12:23] <soundray> natalisushka: I don't know
[12:23] <tech0007> Smegzor: lspci ?
[12:24] <Smegzor> thanks  brb
[12:24] <natalisushka> tech0007, it's a simple mp3 player without a screen or special files inside!
[12:24] <soundray> kahrytan: from the black screen, you should reboot in recovery mode and then look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:24] <CorpseFeeder> hi. What is gvfs-fuse-daemon?
[12:24] <zaraba> drash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17963/
[12:24] <kahrytan> soundray,  There is none
[12:24] <GirL> ребят
[12:24] <tech0007> Smegzor: or System->Preferences->Hardware Information
[12:24] <natalisushka> soundray, tech0007, thanks anyway, I have to reboot again now, I'll try to check usb and also format my flashmemory. Thanks
[12:24] <soundray> kahrytan: there will be if you boot straight to recovery mode from the black screen
[12:24] <kahrytan> soundray,  no log is generated
[12:24] <drash> zaraba: thx, i'll have a look and report back here
[12:25] <elkbuntu> !ru > GirL
[12:25] <zaraba> drash: thanks!
[12:25] <CorpseFeeder> Do I need it? what is it for?
[12:25] <SATA> Its takes more than 40 secs to load my gnome desktop after i login. What should i do to make it fast?
[12:25] <eth01> use windows
[12:25] <soundray> CorpseFeeder: it's part of the gnome virtual filesystem
[12:25] <GirL> РЕБЯТ пожалуйста разбаньте меня на канале #ubuntu-ru
[12:25] <eth01> windows is fairly faster
[12:26] <elkbuntu> eth01, please behave
[12:26] <Smegzor> the network card is listed using lspci so its definitely being detected.  I get no lights when I plug the cable in and the cable is good, both ends connected etc.
[12:26] <kalila> Hi - Any issues I should know before upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04?
[12:26] <elkbuntu> !ru | GirL
[12:26] <kalila>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[12:26] <kahrytan> soundray, any ideas
[12:26] <freakabcd> hi all
[12:26] <Sprengelmeyer> Could somebody help me installing mysql. I am having problems with apparmor here is my output http://pastebin.com/d2d5752fb and # aptitude search apparmor output
[12:26] <SATA> eth01: Window doesnt load in my system.
[12:26] <freakabcd> TVout on my laptop doesn;t work anymore
[12:26] <soundray> kahrytan: there will be a log if you boot straight to recovery mode from the black screen
[12:26] <freakabcd> used to work in gutsy fine
[12:26] <_moro_bana_> drash: i have added the drive to fstab, i need help adding it to grub
[12:27] <freakabcd> now when i run xrandr, it doesn't even mention TV
[12:27] <kahrytan> soundray,  What part of "no log is generated" didnt you understand?
[12:27] <freakabcd> but mentions TMDS (which is DVI output) which my laptop doesn't have!
[12:27] <eth01> elkbuntu: don't
[12:27] <SATA> what should i do to speed up my gnome-desktop loading time?
[12:27] <CorpseFeeder> so.. does this Gnome virtual file system serve any useful purpose?
[12:27] <elkbuntu> eth01, don't what?
[12:28] <eth01> elkbuntu: ubuntu isn't a channel for trolling
[12:28] <elkbuntu> eth01, which is why i asked you to not tell people to install windows to fix ubuntu problems.
[12:28] <eth01> elkbuntu: stop
[12:28] <elkbuntu> eth01, no, you stop
[12:28] <kahrytan> soundray,  so any ideas?
[12:29] <freakabcd> can anyone help me out with TV out?
[12:29] <drash> _moro_bana_: i'm in the middle of helping out zaraba with his nvidia, if nobody else chimes in to help you out, could be a few minutes, sorry 'bout this
[12:29] <Vorbote> Sprengelmeyer, run "depmod -a " and try to install again (you may need to reboot first).
[12:29] <TuniX12> SATA disable some unusable services
[12:29] <SATA> TuniX12,  from where?
[12:29] <eth01> mm, fairly useless
[12:29] <_moro_bana_> drash: ok, i ll be waiting
[12:30] <GirL> разбаньте пожалуйста на канале #ubuntu-ru
[12:30] <drash> zaraba: ok, the problem seems to be with screen 0, nothing gets attached .. could you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please ?
[12:30] <LimCore> also try Stallinux. Its like linux but for ru
[12:30] <tech0007> GirL: /join #ubuntu-ru
[12:30] <hu> h
[12:30] <SATA> TuniX12, is there any way to reset all setting to default? i dont know what i messed with.
[12:30] <CorpseFeeder> I was trying forever to get a DVD to play... installing every player and codec.. then I found it was just dirt on the disc stopping it .. :) d'oh! :D
[12:30] <omass> is it possible, by any chance, to stop MythTV live recording? or not really?
[12:30] <natalisushka> tech0007, soundray I opened gparted after I unmounted the flashmemory but it's not there!
[12:30] <kahrytan> Does anyone know how to fix my nvidia 7200 problem?
[12:31] <TuniX12> SATA: dowonload preload and preftech google for it
[12:32] <zaraba> drash: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17967/
[12:32] <SATA> TuniX12, thanx.
[12:32] <Prathibha>  (*)
[12:32] <Daviey> omass: no, mythtv records everything it see's but livetv is lowest priority of recordings.  you can enable hide/show of livetv in recorded programmes
[12:32] <Sevensins> Hello dear helpers
[12:32] <drash> zaraba: ok, having another look, be right back
[12:32] <TuniX12> SATA i use Ubuntu Tweak  http://ubuntu-tweak.com
[12:32] <zaraba> drash: cheers
[12:32] <CorpseFeeder> Does anyone know how to make a HP Scanjet 5100c "visible" to Xsane every time the computer boots up without having to do "sudo chmod 777 /dev/sg3" every time?
[12:33] <ronino> hi
[12:33] <ronino> is there an equivalent tool to Gentoo's rc-update to manage system service (adding/deleting from run-levels and such)?
[12:33] <Sevensins> can anyone tell me when a patch for the emu0404 soundcard will be released so it works right with my ubuntu installation?
[12:33] <Daviey> ronino: update-rc.d
[12:34] <jrib> ronino: read 'man update-rc.d'.  Also, checkout sysv-rc-conf (in the repos) and see ubottu's link about upstart
[12:34] <jrib> !upstart > ronino (read the private message from ubottu)
[12:34] <LimCore> how to have normal ubuntu boot up - without splash,  showing normal text
[12:34] <TuniX12> !upstart
[12:34] <Vorbote> CorpseFeeder: System->Admininistration->Users and Groups, User Privileges tab. Check use scanners, reboot (to make sure the kernel detects the new group membership).
[12:34] <ronino> Daviey, jrib: thank you
[12:34] <Sevensins> i patiently waited for 8.04 to be released but the alsfirmware is still 0.15 while the driver alred is 0.16
[12:35] <kahrytan> No one has a fix?
[12:35] <danza> Hey guys do you think a partition table made with gparted on a usb pen drive will be visible also from Win?
[12:35] <soundray> kahrytan: unless you drop your brazen attitude and follow my suggestion, I'm not prepared to share any more ideas with you.
[12:35] <Daviey> ronino: all it really does is add symlinks into /etc/rc*.d/ (where * = the runlevel)
[12:35] <TuniX12> kahrytan:  which problem?
[12:35] <Sevensins> danza as long as its fat or st simiilar it will be seeen
[12:35] <ronino> Daviey: that's all I want ;-)
[12:35] <kahrytan> soundray,  I told you. There is no log. I check already.
[12:36] <Sevensins> ext2 /3 is a bit to complex for win to recognize
[12:36] <soundray> kahrytan: you haven't booted in recovery mode, though.
[12:36] <CorpseFeeder> Vorbote: everything in User Priveleges is greyed out...
[12:36] <kahrytan> soundray,  im not being brazen.  That's brazen
[12:37] <CorpseFeeder> Vorbote: aha.. I see
[12:37] <CorpseFeeder> fanx. bye
[12:37] <kahrytan> soundray, I tried to make the point clear.
[12:37] <soundray> kahrytan: you obviously think you know much more than I do. So go ask yourself for help.
[12:38] <kahrytan> soundray,  no i dont
[12:39] <kahrytan> soundray, What did you think i meant when I said there is no log after you suggested to go into recovery mode and collect it?
[12:40] <amorphous> does anyone have a definative list of bootup parameters to ensure pc startup?
[12:40] <LimCore> amorphous:   could try  -nodma  -noapic  etc. ... see   knoppix
[12:40] <soundray> amorphous: I don't think there is such a thing -- it changes too often. The closest you'll get is in this factoid:
[12:41] <soundray> !bootoptions | amorphous
[12:41] <MadHag> !microphones
[12:41] <soundray> amorphous: and don't listen to LimCore -- many Knoppix boot options don't apply to Ubuntu
[12:41] <Finnish> Hello
[12:41] <kahrytan> soundray,  not going to help?
[12:42] <Finnish> I'm installing kubuntu (same error in ubuntu-case), and I get this error
[12:42] <Finnish> buffer i o error on device sr0 logical block
[12:42] <amorphous> LimCore, have the obvoius ones, but no joy...
[12:42] <co_cat_9jam> co_bth_fs
[12:43] <LimCore> amorphous: dont listen to soundray he is just grumpy today, many knoppix options do apply to all kernel, obviously
[12:43] <soundray> kahrytan: we obviously don't communicate well, so let's bury this. I'm sure you'll find someone else who will help you if you ask the channel again.
[12:43] <zetheroo> I recently did the updates and I think there was a kernel update ... however after restart I cannot start my virtual machine in virtualbox and I get an error about a driver etc.... anyone?
[12:43] <amorphous> soundray, yeah will check it out, thanks ;)
[12:43] <kahrytan> soundray,  give me more suggestions
[12:43] <kahrytan> soundray, please
[12:43] <amorphous> oh, yous guys :D
[12:43] <amorphous> :P
[12:43] <loner269> yellow you here?
[12:44] <soundray> kahrytan: no, I'll go and have some coffee now, and see if LimCore finds me less grumpy after that.
[12:44] <trademark> hey, what is the best music player for ubuntu 8.04 ?
[12:44] <soundray> !best | trademark
[12:44] <soundray> !player | trademark
[12:45] <kahrytan> Can anyone help me troubleshoot nvidia 7200 problem?
[12:45] <soundray> kahrytan: it'll work best if you give a full summary of the problem.
[12:45] <trademark> and is there a way to fix the problem with ATI laptop cards ?
[12:45] <trademark> hibernate and closing laptop stuff
[12:46] <soundray> trademark: use the open-source ATI driver
[12:46] <trademark> EnvyNG ?
[12:46] <trademark> that's the one I've got atm
[12:46] <soundray> trademark: no
[12:47] <kahrytan> Can anyone help me troubleshoot nvidia 7200 problem?  Ubuntu fails to load X when nvidia driver is active
[12:47] <trademark> then which one is it soundray, I'm new to ubuntu :p
[12:47] <soundray> trademark: the one that comes packaged as xserver-xorg-video-ati
[12:48] <soundray> !info xserver-xorg-video-ati | trademark
[12:48] <soundray> See you later
[12:48] <mod_cure> join #freebsd
[12:48] <kahrytan> Can anyone help me troubleshoot nvidia 7200 problem?  Ubuntu fails to load X when nvidia driver is active. There is no log generated either.
[12:49] <habit> Hello. I have local repository aviabile through proxy. How I can add it?  Proxy there are only for repository mirror.
[12:50] <frances> would everything that run under windows xp will still run on windows xp under virtualbox?
[12:50] <kahrytan> 1256 people and no one can help me
[12:50] <bazhang_> !info envyng-gtk | kahrytan
[12:51] <trademark> frances, everything that works onder windows xp will work under windows xp I think :p ?
[12:51] <kahrytan> !envy
[12:51] <bazhang_> frances, not 3d stuff
[12:51] <frances> trademark: under virtualbox...
[12:51] <trademark> xserver-xorg-video-ati, is this also for desktop version of ubuntu?
[12:51] <frances> what do you mean about 3d stuff?...
[12:52] <bazhang_> frances, 3d games etc
[12:52] <trademark> 3d applications (games etc)
[12:52] <frances> Bazhang: what do you mean about 3d stuff?
[12:52] <kahrytan> bazhang_,  and what does envyng have to do with it?
[12:53] <frances> how about autocad?...would it work under virtualbox?...
[12:53] <frances> or is there an autocad for linux?...
[12:54] <ordinareez> frances: yes,it's variCAD
[12:54] <frances> is it better than autocad?...
[12:54] <ordinareez> frances: i think not yet
[12:55] <kahrytan> bazhang_,  Why did you point me to that
[12:55] <co_bth_fs> #bandung
[12:55] <ompaul> kahrytan, it is a potential video card / driver helper your call if you want to use it - he has stepped away from the keyboard
[12:56] <NemosNemos> Hi
[12:56] <NemosNemos> Anyone?
[12:56] <NemosNemos> I'd like to extend my Linux Partition using G parted
[12:56] <NemosNemos> But it doesn't work: it seems the partitions are protected
[12:56] <NemosNemos> How can I do that?
[12:57] <NemosNemos> noone?
[12:57] <NemosNemos> I can't read if you are writing
[12:57] <habit> NemosNemos, probably they are mounted. Try to unmount it.
[12:57] <NemosNemos> habit, how do I unmount?
[12:57] <ompaul> !patients | NemosNemos
[12:57] <Esteth> nemos: you can't  modify a partition that is in use. You need to boot from the liveCD to modify the linux partition
[12:57] <NemosNemos> terminal-->unmount?
[12:57] <NemosNemos> esteth, why is it possible to do that under Windows?
[12:57] <Esteth> You can't modify the windows partition while in windows, as far as i know
[12:57] <habit> NemosNemos, if it is not needed partition for system, you can unmount it using gparted.
[12:58] <habit> try right mouse button
[12:58] <spiniker> hello
[12:58] <NemosNemos> habit, I'd like to resize the Windows Partition
[12:58] <NemosNemos> And add the empty space to the ext3 partition, on which Ubuntu is installed
[12:58] <NemosNemos> What do I have todo?
[12:58] <insomninja> Do anybody else experience that the fade/tint to black that appears when running gksudo isn
[12:58] <insomninja> sorry
[12:59] <spiniker> i seem to have a problem with my ubuntu installation,everytime i do an update a new installation appears on my grub list
[12:59] <insomninja> Do anybody else experience that the fade/tint to black that appears when running gksudo isn't properly deleted when gksudo closes?
[12:59] <habit> NemosNemos, $ sudo aptitude install ntfsprogs
[12:59] <habit> NemosNemos, then restart your gparted
[12:59] <Vorbote> NemosNemos, to be on the safe side, boot from the LiveCD or use a specialized disto such as PartedMagic or RIPLinux (there are more than you can shake a stick at).
[12:59] <TuniX12> NemosNemos:  destroy windows partitions
[12:59] <habit> TuniX12, be polite please.
[12:59] <NemosNemos> vorbote
[13:00] <NemosNemos> Ubuntu's live cd hasn't got gparted or riplinux
[13:00] <NemosNemos> Or anything
[13:00] <spiniker> and its taking too long for me to log-on to ubuntu..i already tried recovery mode but stiil the same
[13:00] <TuniX12> NemosNemos:  it has
[13:00] <jrib> insomninja: yes
[13:00] <Esteth> spiniker, That's expected behaviour for a kernel update. You can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to remove entries you don't want
[13:00] <habit> NemosNemos, it really has.
[13:01] <NemosNemos> really>?
[13:01] <NemosNemos> where?
[13:01] <sensouci> hello anyone to help me with my webcam?
[13:01] <Vorbote> NemosNemos: RIPLinux is a specialy recovery Linux distribution. Very handy to bring back a dead box to live again.
[13:01] <Esteth> system -> admin -> disk editor, or similar
[13:01] <jrib> !webcam > sensouci (read the private message from ubottu)
[13:01] <zetheroo> anyone?
[13:01] <TuniX12> NemosNemos:  you wanna keep Windows and make a dualboot?
[13:01] <spiniker> is it normal for the very long log-in time?
[13:01] <NemosNemos> No!
[13:01] <NemosNemos> I've already done that
[13:01] <NemosNemos> I just want to add some GBs to the Linux Partition
[13:01] <NemosNemos> It's just 3.5 Gb
[13:01] <NemosNemos> Windows has 220
[13:01] <NemosNemos> Or something like that
[13:02] <TuniX12> NemosNemos:  you cant add without formatting!!
[13:02] <Esteth> NemosNemos, Boot from the live CD. launch gparted there, either through the menu, or through a terminal, and it should work. You cannot modify a partition that is currently in use, such as the ubuntu partition you plan to run gparted from
[13:02] <Esteth> TuniX12, That's false with the default ubuntu and windows filesystems
[13:03] <NemosNemos> Ok Esteth
[13:03] <Vorbote> NemosNemos: You really want to use a specialty distro. If you are a beginner, I suggest you try with PartedMagic first. It has an enhanded gparted tool that works great with ntfs partitions.
[13:03] <NemosNemos> Now the last thing: where can I find G parted on live? From Resource--> System?
[13:03] <Esteth> NemosNemos, I beleive it's under System->administration->disk editor, or something. I'm on windows at the moment, so I can't check
[13:03] <NemosNemos> OK
[13:03] <NemosNemos> I'll try
[13:03] <Esteth> NemosNemos, Otherwise, launch terminal and type gparted
[13:04] <cezarlucas> olá
[13:04] <s0ullight> hello just installed hardy heron and fixed nvidia and sound (lappy acer aspire 5920G)
[13:05] <s0ullight> the sound solution is not realy the answer
[13:05] <s0ullight> it is about the alsamixer
[13:05] <s0ullight> but my question is : is there any good open source media conventer?
[13:05] <TuniX12> Mencoder
[13:06] <s0ullight> hmmm i'll take a look tnx
[13:06] <s0ullight>  :D
[13:06] <spiniker> plus im having problems with my dvd/rom,it cant read cd's and dvd's anymore,i dont have the replacement yet,i have an ubunut iso on my windows partition
[13:06] <spiniker> how can i install it without using the dvd rom
[13:06] <s0ullight> network boot?
[13:07] <TuniX12> spiniker: try wubi
[13:07] <spiniker> ok..
[13:07] <Sevensins> i am searching for a tool similar to automatix cos iliked it much plus i cant be bothered downloading and searchinf for codecs and so on on my own
[13:07] <Sevensins> is there any alternative under hardy?
[13:07] <Stroganoff> no
[13:08] <Stroganoff> most things are now included in ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:08] <Sevensins> cant be true ^ ^
[13:08] <Sevensins> like
[13:08] <s0ullight> is mencoder cli based or has it a gui?
[13:08] <Stroganoff> !medibuntu | Sevensins if you need more
[13:08] <TuniX12> Sevensins: cli
[13:08] <Sevensins> wheres all the fonts n so on
[13:08] <Sevensins> okay
[13:09] <Sevensins> medibuntu is st like a distro or what?
[13:09] <Stroganoff> no
[13:09] <Sevensins> or just an archive with codecs
[13:09] <mnemo> im getting grub error 17 (after resizing a partition in windows) ... what do I need to change --> http://rafb.net/p/37ySVg40.html  ???
[13:09] <Stroganoff> Sevensins, this contains most codecs AND fonts: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:09] <s0ullight> mnemo, did you defragment ur partition before shrinkin?
[13:09] <TuniX12> Sevensins:  it's another repositry for nonfree codecs
[13:09] <sensouci> hello did anyone has got a zareason lightlap laptop?
[13:09] <Stroganoff> medibuntu is a repository, add it to your sources.list and you will be able to install w32codecs and skype
[13:10] <Sevensins> okayy got it
[13:10] <Stroganoff> read the wiki page...
[13:10] <kahrytan> bazhang_,  envyng didnt work
[13:10] <mnemo> s0ullight: i shrunk it with a windows tool so that's not necessary afaik
[13:10] <Sevensins> i ll try to mirror the thing right on my disk
[13:10] <Sevensins> thx a lot
[13:10] <Stroganoff> Oo
[13:10] <ashley7> 3d turned on by default, how do i disable it?
[13:10] <salparadise_> spiniker: check out http://www.golem.de/0701/49961.html it is beta but can install from an iso without having to burn it
[13:11] <keepout> hello
[13:11] <TuniX12> hi
[13:12] <salparadise_> also check out wubi
[13:12] <kahrytan> Can anyone help me troubleshoot nvidia 7200 problem?  Ubuntu fails to load X when nvidia driver is active. There is no log generated either.
[13:13] <salparadise_> kahrytan: how did you install the driver?
[13:13] <steven2> hmm
[13:13] <TuniX12> kahrytan: is it the binary driver?
[13:13] <steven2> quiet in here today
[13:14] <kahrytan> salparadise_,  Hardware driver, synaptic, and bazhang_  suggested envyng
[13:14] <steven2> any chance you guys could have more problems or questions right now?
[13:14] <mnemo> can someone post their output of "sudo fdisk -l" using a working dual-boot windows+ubuntu installation ( at paste.ubuntu.com or similar) ??
[13:15] <dr_Willis> mnemo,  what do you plain on learning from that?
[13:15] <kahrytan> salparadise_,  any ideas
[13:15] <dr_Willis> mnemo,  my system -> 4 primary partitions. (windows) (windows) (linux) (swap)
[13:15] <mnemo> dr_Willis: which one has the "boot" flag on it?
[13:16] <dr_Willis> mnemo,   I belive the first one.. but i beliuve that grub dosent care about the boot flag.
[13:16] <mnemo> ahh okay, I thought that might be the problem
[13:16] <mnemo> dr_Willis: do you know if I can just edit menu.lst directly or do I need to run some command afterwards???
[13:16] <rick_> hey ?
[13:16] <dr_Willis> mnemo,  on my all linux systems I dont think any of the partitions are bootable.
[13:17] <rick_>  hey are there any chat progamms on lunix wich i can use for msn ?
[13:17] <Leefmc> What is a good firewall for Ubuntu? In Windows, i enjoyed an oldie Firewall (low resource, good monitoring) that would allow me to control all ports/activity going in/out of my net, not to mention any programs doing any action heh. Though i was using windows, so i was paranoid, i still would like a good soft-firewall. Thoughts?
[13:17] <Leefmc> rick_, Pidgin
[13:17] <dr_Willis> mnemo,  depends on what you change.  The  config file has settings that grub uses,, then the special #commented settings - that update-grub uses..
[13:17] <rick_> pidgin ?
[13:17] <rick_> ill try
[13:17] <Leefmc> rick_, Yup, suppots hotmail, yahoo, etc :)
[13:17] <dr_Willis> mnemo,  be sure to backup your existing config. :)
[13:17] <salparadise_> kahrytan: start in safe mode (from the bootloader in the very beginning) and switch to vesa drivers. then uninstall all nvidia drivers with packet manager
[13:18] <mnemo> dw_Willis: My system is already unbootable... I'm getting "grub error 17" at boot
[13:18] <drash> Leefmc: iptables is the actual firewall, which is always on in ubuntu .. you're looking for a GUI frontend to control it, try ufw or firestarter
[13:18] <rick_> ok thanks :)  i made this comp but i didnt have a windows, so i though lets try linix
[13:18] <salparadise_> kahrytan then restart regularly and use envy (http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html) to install the latest drivers
[13:19] <MadHag> anyone want to test ekiga here?
[13:19] <salparadise_> drash: i have been wondering about firestarter. is there any security risk from it running in sudo mode all the time?
[13:19] <nemosNemos1> Hi
[13:19] <nemosNemos1> I'm here again
[13:19] <TuniX12> hi
[13:20] <dr_Willis> mnemo,   ive seen that error befor.. but dont rember what it means. You may want to check the grub homepage/manual and learn some more grub essentials.  and yes.. ive fought with grub/lilo over the ages.. and it can be frustrating. :)
[13:20] <nemosNemos1> I'm on the Live session, and I've opened GParted. However, I cannot resize the NTFS partition, because it says ERROR: NTFS is incostitent
[13:20] <nemosNemos1> What do I have to do?
[13:20] <freddysphere> hi to all
[13:20] <mnemo> dr_willis: manual doesn't say much specific about it --> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html#Stage2-errors
[13:20] <Leefmc> drash, Well if its a good firewall i'm fine. Are there settings that allow for it to notify me etc? I've installed many apps that have used inet and yet no firewall has questioned them.
[13:20] <nemosNemos1> hey
[13:21] <drash> salparadise_: no need to run firestarter all the time, i won't advise that, just launch it when you want to make some rule changes
[13:21] <TuniX12> nemosNemos1: can you acces those ntfs volumes?
[13:21] <nemosNemos1> a moment
[13:21] <MadHag> nemosNemos1, use system rescue cd @ http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[13:21] <nemosNemos1> I'm trying
[13:21] <nemosNemos1> why?
[13:21] <dr_Willis> mnemo,  i would say either the  grub config is looking at the wrong filesystem, or the filesystem is currupted.  from what i am reading.
[13:21] <salparadise_> drash: ah okay, thx
[13:21] <TuniX12> can you acces??
[13:21] <nemosNemos1> Yes, I can access
[13:22] <nemosNemos1> I just want to resize that partition
[13:22] <nemosNemos1> Is it so difficult?
[13:22] <nemosNemos1> On Windows I would that in 2 seconds
[13:22] <TuniX12> is ntfs volume encrypted?
[13:22] <nemosNemos1> No, it shouldn't be encrypted
[13:22] <drash> Leefmc: iptables is very robust (hence very complex) .. firestarter will report all you want yes
[13:22] <MadHag> ekiga anyone, fancy a chat!
[13:22] <Leefmc> drash, K thanks, i'll look into it
[13:23] <freddysphere> i use part image linux bootable cd
[13:23] <TuniX12> nemosNemos1: past the error msg of gparted
[13:23] <nemosNemos1> Ok
[13:23] <nemosNemos1> A moment
[13:23] <nemosNemos1> I have to past the link to the image
[13:23] <nemosNemos1> Because I cannot copy the text
[13:23] <MarkusKool> hi
[13:23] <mnemo> dr_Willis: since I just removed one partition I think that sounds reasonable... but I alredy edited menu.lst to fix it...
[13:23] <nemosNemos1> Just a moment
[13:23] <ompaul> !enter | nemosNemos1
[13:24] <MadHag> nemosNemos1, if you use gparted via sysrescue I bet that would resize your ntfs partition
[13:24] <MadHag> nemosNemos1, works everytime for me
[13:24] <dr_Willis> mnemo,  you do rember that grub starts Numbering at 0? :)
[13:24] <priya> Hai to all
[13:24] <TuniX12> nemosNemos1: maybe the partition table is mucked up
[13:25] <dr_Willis> mnemo,  also dont try to boot a extended partition.. but the logical IN the extended.
[13:25] <nemosNemos1> http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3875/screenshotinformationabru9.png <---- This is the error which appears when I try to resize it
[13:25] <TuniX12> nemosNemos1: try testdisk
[13:25] <southafrikanse> Hello. I've just installed Opera but I'm unable to see any flash in the websites. I've tried to solve my problem from google but it still doesn't work
[13:25] <dr_Willis> mnemo,  ive lerned from accidently trying to doo all this in the past. :P
[13:25] <nemosNemos1> Teswhat?
[13:25] <TuniX12> Nem
[13:25] <mnemo> dr_Willis: i think I have three primary partitions --> http://rafb.net/p/37ySVg40.html   looks correct, no?
[13:25] <rick_> how do install thing here :P it my fisrt time on linux
[13:26] <ompaul> nemosNemos1, can you boot windows and shut it down cleanly?
[13:26] <jrib> !software > rick_ (read the private message from ubottu)
[13:26] <TuniX12> nemosNemos1: sudo apt-get install testdisk
[13:26] <nemosNemos1> OK
[13:26] <jrib> rick_: you should read through the guide at help.ubuntu.com
[13:26] <nemosNemos1> I'm on the Live session
[13:26] <nemosNemos1> is it ok anyway?
[13:26] <TuniX12> no
[13:26] <nemosNemos1> So what?
[13:26] <TuniX12> i foget that
[13:26] <ompaul> nemosNemos1,  the problem is an unclean shutdown of the windows partition can you boot windows and then shut it down cleanly and work from there?
[13:27] <dr_Willis> mnemo,  did you 'resize' these partitions with  gparted?  thers a gap in the Numbering of the cylinders I notice..
[13:27] <Leefmc> Is there some sort of search with "apt-get install ___" ? In otherwords, is there a way i can search for valid appnames to use in install? And possibly get descriptions, as to not install the wrong thing
[13:27] <Stroganoff> Leefmc search at http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[13:27] <jasdevan> Leefmc: try apt-cache search xxxxx
[13:27] <jrib> !apt > Leefmc (read the private message from ubottu)
[13:27] <mnemo> dr_Willis: nah, I used the built in partition resize in Vista to shrink my NTFS partition and then I also removed another NTFS partition completely
[13:27] <TuniX12> nemosNemos1:  you should testdisk ntfs volume
[13:27] <lance> hi
[13:28] <nemosNemos1> You know what? I thought Ubuntu was faster than Windows for managing drives, partition, and things like that; but I've just understood that Windows is far better and easier. I'll open Windows and I'll resize the NTFS in just 2 minutes. Who wants to bet?
[13:28] <Leefmc> Stroganoff, ty. jrib, ty :)
[13:28] <Leefmc> or rather, jasdevan, sorry haha. Misread a line :)
[13:28] <TuniX12> nemosNemos1: the problem is bigger
[13:28] <Kitu> somebody have installed ati free driver GIT version ?
[13:28] <nemosNemos1> And then I'll do a TESTDISK on Ubuntu
[13:28] <dr_Willis> mnemo,  so you just deleted some partitions in the middle. (thats why the #'s jump) eh?  Its possible the uuid's have changed. but i think thats only if you rezise the linux partitions.
[13:28] <lance> i am unable to access the microphone
[13:29] <nemosNemos1> I think these are the gaps which separate Unix Users from Windows users
[13:29] <mnemo> dr_Willis: I believe there should be a big gap because I left unpartitioned space... because I wanted to let windows modify the NTFS and then let gparted expand my ext2 partitions later on (I wanted to let each tool do only what it does best)
[13:29] <lance> microphone is not working
[13:29] <nemosNemos1> the fact that Linux is still too complicated
[13:29] <ompaul> nemosNemos1, you are now in the realms of discussion not problem solving please stop that is offtopic
[13:29] <Kitu> PLEASE somebody have installed ati free driver GIT version ?
[13:29] <Kitu> :(
[13:29] <TuniX12> nemosNemos1: run check disk on windows
[13:30] <dr_Willis> TuniX12,  remind him that MS has not released any specs on ntfs for linux.. and hes lucky to even be able to read the disks. :)
[13:30] <dr_Willis> TuniX12,  heh..  oh he allready left.
[13:30] <TuniX12> ;-)
[13:31] <dr_Willis> TuniX12,  i love 'reversing' the argument for windows users :P
[13:31] <TuniX12> dr_Willis: he is noob (neutral)
[13:31] <southafrikanse> Agrajag,
[13:31] <dr_Willis> TuniX12,  heh heh...
[13:31] <southafrikanse> sorry wrong tab
[13:31] <drash> mnemo: still having grub error 17 ?
[13:31] <mnemo> drash: yupp
[13:32] <lance> hey  any one help for me
[13:32] <lance> mic is not working
[13:32] <shenlong> How can I "kill" pulseaudio? I wanna do this because wine doesn't support it (i have no sound in warcraft3)
[13:32] <TuniX12> and..
[13:32] <rick_> hey dus linux support Worl of Warcraft ?
[13:32] <dr_Willis> mnemo,  you could just try making a empty partition in the middle... :)  or use the grubs shell to 'find' the location of the  boot files.  and get the proper hd #.,#
[13:32] <drash> mnemo: it's fixable, you need to get the correct numbers for your partitions, like the (hd0,0) -->  http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/howto-fixing-grub-after-a-windows-installation-and-fixing-the-grub-menu/
[13:32] <jasdevan> Kitu: Was there a specific issue you were having with your video or the driver?
[13:33] <dr_Willis> rick_,  no but i hear 'wine' can play it under linux. :)
[13:33] <rick_> kickass :P
[13:33] <rick_> cus im support agent on a server :P
[13:33] <Stroganoff> rick_: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=1922
[13:33] <kto_pyta_nie_bla> hi
[13:33] <rick_> yo
[13:33] <kto_pyta_nie_bla> how can i share my connection to a 2nd pc with wiondows ?
[13:33] <dr_Willis> rick_,  there was a time that Blizzared stated that playing WoW under Wine was 'cheating' :) not sure what became of that.
[13:34] <rick_> wath is wine?
[13:34] <rick_> sorry but iv never had linux b4
[13:34] <TuniX12> wine is wine
[13:34] <dr_Willis> !wine | rick_
[13:34] <TuniX12> alcohcol:P
[13:34] <pablo> hi, i cannot get to work the command cd.. it says  No such file or directory
[13:35] <Kitu> jasdevan, i have ati radeon 9000 pro and i had non free driver installed ..
[13:35] <Kitu> telephone ..
[13:35] <kto_pyta_nie_bla> pablo:
[13:35] <Stroganoff> pablo your path is wrong. us the TABULATOR key for auto completion
[13:35] <kto_pyta_nie_bla> use ls and than check if the patch is correct
[13:35] <lance> hello i am unable to use my mic
[13:35] <kto_pyta_nie_bla> how can i share my connection to a 2nd pc with wiondows ?
[13:35] <dr_Willis> !share
[13:35] <Stroganoff> lance have you checked the recording settings in the volume mixer?
[13:35] <dr_Willis> kto_pyta_nie_bla,  theres a factoid thje bot knows on that.. i just cant rember it. :)
[13:35] <pablo> Stronnganoff: i am just using cd.. so i can get out of the folder
[13:36] <lance> how can i check that??
[13:36] <Stroganoff> pablo that is the DOS way. in linux you need "cd .."
[13:36] <Stroganoff> with space
[13:36] <newk> any one no how to configure live messenger wit wine
[13:36] <Leefmc> I was told Blender might have a repository for the package management system. I am having trouble finding this, so i am asking how to find these sort of things in a generic way. That is, i am asking to learn how to fish, not for a fish heh. How would you go about finding a package manager repo? What would i look for, etc?
[13:36] <Kitu> jasdevan, i have ati radeon 9000 pro and i had non free driver installed, compiz's 3d effects worked but not 3d games ... so i try others drivers
[13:36] <Stroganoff> lance click your way through (i dont have gnome) the settings menu...
[13:36] <Leefmc> Terminology is probably my biggest question, i spose
[13:36] <pablo> Stroganoff: thanks
[13:37] <Kitu> jasdevan,  what's the best driver for my card ?
[13:37] <Kitu> the better*
[13:37] <ompaul> Leefmc, you go to the menu system administration synaptic package management system and then search
[13:37] <lance> i checked with sound under perferences
[13:37] <jasdevan> Leefmc: "sudo apt-cache search blender"
[13:37] <TuniX12> Kitu: the free driver
[13:37] <marco> ciaoooooo
[13:37] <shenlong> How can I "kill" pulseaudio? I wanna do this because wine doesn't support it (i have no sound in warcraft3) http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/247469/
[13:37] <Leefmc> jasdevan, Well no, i am asking how to find new repositories. Not an app in my default repositories.
[13:38] <insomninja> is there a way to make the caps lock key behave as an extra alt gr key?
[13:38] <mnemo> drash: that fixed it... thank you VERY much
[13:38] <TuniX12> Kitu: if you can ruun compiz than you have 3d enabled
[13:38] <mnemo> I had already fixed menu.lst but it was also necessary to run the "setup" command from the grub command line it seems
[13:38] <Stroganoff> lance consider all of these hints to make your microphone work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=238820
[13:39] <dr_Willis> mnemo,  so the empty space was still being numbered? goofing you up?  or what exactly webt wrong?
[13:39] <newk> any one able to use msn messenger with wine
[13:39] <newk> ???
[13:39] <Kitu> hum
[13:39] <lance> stronganoff thanks
[13:39] <drash> shenlong: killall pulseaudio, but there's a way to keep it out of the way by launching your warcraft via pasuspender <command-to-start-warcraft>
[13:39] <TuniX12> msn?
[13:39] <kto_pyta_nie_bla> :/
[13:39] <jrib> newk: use pidgin or amsn from the repositories
[13:39] <Stroganoff> lance i think this is it: "You will have to enable capture and it should show on your capture tab in the volume control."
[13:39] <Kitu> TuniX12, how to reinitialize free driver ?
[13:39] <Leefmc> jasdevan, In other words, ubuntu comes with default repos. Those stink for Blender heh. Blender being at a new version, i need to upgrade it but the default ubuntu repositories have Blender245, i think thats a whole month late IIRC. So i was talking last night, and i was old Blender might actually have its whole own repository it maintains. What would i search for? ("apt-get repository"? "package manager repository"?)
[13:39] <newk> jrib: i do but they dont support video call
[13:39] <Kitu> TuniX12, fglrx is free driver ?
[13:39] <TuniX12> newk: sudo apt-get install emesene
[13:39] <marco> c'e qualke italina
[13:39] <marco> '
[13:39] <drash> mnemo: yes that is the one good and clear howto to solve error 17 i know off, glad it helped
[13:39] <marco> ??
[13:39] <BCM43> !it
[13:39] <TuniX12> Kitu: no
[13:39] <ompaul> !latest | Leefmc
[13:40] <Kitu> ok
[13:40] <Leefmc> jasdevan, Hope you got that all, i think XChat has a bad line count heh.
[13:40] <Kitu> msn ?
[13:40] <Kitu> euh
[13:40] <newk> tuniX12: does it support video call
[13:40] <newk> ?
[13:40] <dr_Willis> im amazed that people install IM clients and want to voice/video chat.. then they go on their Cell Phone and want to Text Message each other... :)
[13:40] <TuniX12> free clone of MSN
[13:40] <Kitu> AMSN
[13:40] <Kitu> lol
[13:40] <Kitu> so
[13:40] <Leefmc> ompaul, When it comes to features, newer is better in 3d apps.
[13:40] <BCM43> dr_Willis: lol, but not ubuntu related
[13:40] <shenlong> drash what's pasuspender?
[13:40] <Leefmc> ompaul, 3d apps usually make huge leaps between versions.
[13:40] <newk> kitu: i use amsn but it has no video call
[13:40] <dr_Willis> BCM43,  its funny because its true.... :)
[13:40] <Kitu> TuniX12, what's the package to installe to be sure that free driver is installed and actived ?
[13:41] <Leefmc> ompaul, In my case, between bugs, features, and api enhancements, newer is better.
[13:41] <Kitu> newk, si
[13:41] <marshall> is anybody else having a problem changing the desktop background?
[13:41] <TuniX12> newk: dunno
[13:41] <Kitu> newk, at home video calls work
[13:41] <ompaul> !compile | Leefmc your justification is for yourself not me this is how you get to where you want and you search their site for the sources
[13:41] <dabbill> i just tried to update to the latest nvidia driver off the nvidia web site now every time i boot it goes to low-graphics mode.
[13:41] <newk> kitu: with amsn????
[13:41] <jasdevan> Leefmc: I got it, sorry I misunderstood your original question.  I'd suggest google, honestly.  Or if it's that important to you to stay with the latest version, consider compiling from source.
[13:41] <Kitu> yes
[13:41] <drash> shenlong: it's a pulseaudio command to move itself out of the way of any application that doesn't support it, without killing things so any other ap that does work with it can keep on tuning in as well
[13:41] <TuniX12> marshall: which problem?
[13:41] <mnemo> dr_Willis: since I deleted one my NTFS partitions the index in menu.lst was wrong... my linux partition used to be (hd0,2) but when I deleted the extra NTFS partition I had my linux partition at (hd0,1) instead.... I had already figured out how to boot a livecd and update the menu.lst chaning (hd0,2) into (hd0,1) but that was not sufficient.... the final step that fixed it for me was starting the grub command line tool using "sudo grub" and then running
[13:42] <Kitu> newk, i have problem with micro i believe but visio work
[13:42] <Kitu> it's not very important for the micro
[13:42] <Kitu> i can resolve the problem
[13:42] <marshall> TuniX12, i open appearance preferences and try to change the background. the image flickers but nothing happens
[13:42] <pablo> does somebody install kiba-dock?
[13:42] <BCM43> Kitu: please try to keep your responses to one line. Thank you
[13:42] <Leefmc> jasdevan, Well im simply asking terminology to search for :). Not knowing what these things are exactly called hehe. I'll ask the guy who mentioned it later, since knows heh
[13:42] <drash> pablo: yes, happy with it too
[13:43] <marshall> TuniX12, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=821399&highlight=change+background
[13:43] <Leefmc> ompaul, For now i'll just use the debian build, its been working fine for me. Its just not technically installed.
[13:43] <lance> thank u very much
[13:43] <spiniker> hello
[13:43] <lance> mic is working
[13:43] <BCM43> hi spiniker
[13:43] <shenlong> drash, tell me the command please
[13:43] <spiniker> is there any other way for me top log-in on ubuntu
[13:43] <Kitu> TuniX12, i try to install ati free driver GIT version and i have this error messsage : http://pastebin.com/m1311e22e
[13:43] <rgnr> xmess help plz?
[13:43] <ompaul> Leefmc, abis can break hope you are ok there you really should build it yourself from source
[13:43] <pablo> drash: i installed it but i havent been able to run it, did u use this guide? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=554127
[13:43] <BCM43> rgnr: do you have a question about it?
[13:43] <rgnr> any1 uses xmess?
[13:43] <spiniker> its taking to long..6 minutes plus
 thanks
[13:44] <spiniker> just to log-in
[13:44] <BCM43> !tab > lance
[13:44] <drash> shenlong: start your application with "pasuspender xxx" .. the xxx being the usual command for the application that doesn't work natively with pulseaudio
[13:44] <rgnr> BCM43:  yep
[13:44] <BCM43> rgnr: so ask it in the channel
[13:44] <Leefmc> ompaul, "abis can break hope" pardon?
[13:44] <rgnr> BCM43:  ok
[13:44] <Kitu> TuniX12, and libdrm2 is installed but i'm not looking for libdrm first version
[13:45] <drash> pablo: i'll check, i compiled it since it isn't in any repo (that i know off), brb
[13:45] <dabbill> i just tried to update to the latest nvidia driver off the nvidia web site now every time i boot it goes to low-graphics mode.
[13:45] <rgnr> any GUYs for xmess so far?
[13:45] <pablo> drash: ok
[13:45] <BCM43> rgnr: no, i meant to you have a specif question about the program?
[13:45] <newk> not even webcam on emesene
[13:45] <dr_Willis> rgnr,  i havent used it in years..  ask a more speciric question to the channel  and see what happens.
[13:45] <rick_> hey i installed wine how do i play a windows game in wine now ?
[13:46] <BCM43> !win | rick_
[13:46] <BCM43> !wine | rick_
[13:46] <dr_Willis> rick_,  you dident go to the !wine web site the bot posted did you? :)
[13:46] <pho3nix_> Does anyone have some time to help me with some sound problems?
[13:46] <drash> pablo: have you seen http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=728231 ?
[13:46] <rgnr> well i got a gui for xmess and i cannot make it work
[13:46] <BCM43> !sound | pho3nix_
[13:46] <dr_Willis> rick_,  in 'theory' you double click on the games .exe installer and it will install.
[13:46] <ompaul> Leefmc, you are better building on your own system than taking debs from other repos they may work and then again they may not
[13:46] <rgnr> ane hlp?
[13:46] <spiniker> is there a shortcut key?or anything to bypass the gdm log-in
[13:46] <pho3nix_> Ty
[13:46] <Kitu> !ati
[13:46] <spiniker> any ideas?
[13:46] <rgnr> !xmess
[13:46] <dr_Willis> rgnr,  thers dozens of guis for the mame/mess emulatorx
[13:46] <rgnr> lol
[13:47] <BCM43> !info xmess
[13:47] <Samstone|> Hi all
[13:47] <dr_Willis> !find xmess
[13:47] <s0ullight> !info xmms
[13:47] <shenlong> drash pasuspender: invalid option -- o     :(
[13:47] <s0ullight> whyyy!!!
[13:47] <BCM43> rgnr: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432751
[13:47] <dr_Willis> xmms in fact does NOT exist in hardy
[13:47] <shenlong> drash but i think is not a good idea so i can't listen to music while playing warcraft
[13:47] <drash> shenlong: just a moment, i'll doublecheck
[13:47] <dr_Willis> or in several other disrtos now.
[13:47] <Kitu> !linux
[13:47] <Kitu> lol
[13:47] <Leefmc> ompaul, Well i have no experience building apps for ubuntu (ubuntu youngling here), is it really wise to do this at my ubuntu-knowledge level?
[13:47] <ompaul> Leefmc,  so as I said already go get source from blender site, compile using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware and before you start do this sudo apt-get install build-essential       that is all
[13:47] <s0ullight> amarok has taken a great place
[13:47] <TuniX12> xmms is obslete
[13:47] <XpoMa> Hello. How can I see all attached devices to my server (particulary disks). Because I don't really know what to mount. Thank you.
[13:48] <Fabz0r> yeah why is that
[13:48] <rgnr> dr_Willis:  well i found only 1
[13:48] <mohbana> hi when is firefox rc2 going to be made available?
[13:48] <Fabz0r> replaces with this new wanna be itunes rubbish
[13:48] <Fabz0r> i miss xmms
[13:48] <ompaul> Leefmc, you come here as for help, all I can say is that is the best help I can suggest, I don't do less than my best ;-)
[13:48] <TuniX12> mohbana: wait for the final release
[13:48] <TuniX12> just one week
[13:48] <pablo> drash: no i was using another topic in the same forum.... i will try yours then, thanks
[13:48] <rgnr> dr_Willis:  kyllies one
[13:49] <ompaul> Leefmc, internal consistency in your system is the objective here - not taking parts from random places read the url
[13:49] <ompaul> Leefmc, have a great day
[13:49] <erUSUL> Leefmc: ompaul https://launchpad.net/~wgrant/+archive
[13:49] <dabbill> i just tried to update to the latest nvidia driver off the nvidia web site now every time i boot it goes to low-graphics mode and when i try to run nvidia-settings it says i am not running nvidia driver
[13:50] <BCM43> !nvidia | dabbill
[13:50] <ompaul> erUSUL, backports not visible there
[13:50] <Leefmc> ompaul, Welp thanks. Note that i wasn't disagreeing with you, simply seeking more knowledge as to why you were saying what you were (and giving you info on my status :)
[13:50] <ompaul> erUSUL, doh!
[13:51] <rgnr> dr_Willis:  can you give me a working jnt plz?
[13:51] <ompaul> erUSUL, however leef did say that new version wanted
[13:51] <IOIOIO> Hello, I have a problem. I can't load my C: NTFS Partition, neither from the GRUB boot nor from Unix (it says that "it's impossible to mount it"). What happened?
[13:51] <drash> shenlong: have you seen this thread ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4723680 .. has all sorts of good tips, also about how to run pasuspender (you have do that command available yes ?)
[13:52] <dabbill> BCM43, that page doesnt help at all
[13:52] <IOIOIO> Anyone who answers?
[13:52] <BCM43> dabbill: ok, sorry
[13:52] <dabbill> BCM43, i have tried going back to the restricted drivers still same issue
[13:52] <ompaul> Leefmc, I am out of here - I understood - understand I was qualifying it as best I could :) cheers
[13:52] <rgnr> BCM43:  know xmess?
[13:52] <BCM43> rgnr: nope, sorry
[13:52] <drash> IOIOIO: any detailed errors with that ?
[13:52] <BCM43> IOIOIO: ask agaoin
[13:53] <IOIOIO>  Hello, I have a problem. I can't load my C: NTFS Partition, neither from the GRUB boot nor from Unix (it says that "it's impossible to mount it"). What happened?
[13:53] <IOIOIO> I need Windows!
[13:53] <IOIOIO> But it seems dead
[13:53] <zetheroo> I am trying to install something but keep getting a message about there being broken packages
[13:53] <Ward1983> how can i set my color depth without opening xorg>conf ?
[13:53] <zetheroo> please help
[13:53] <Ward1983> xorg.conf i mean
[13:54] <rgnr> damn
[13:54] <rgnr> any can hlp me with xmess?
[13:54] <IOIOIO> Please, help me to fix the error
[13:54] <TuniX12> IOIOIO: 2 problems: the ntfs volume is encrypted or bad unmount from windows shutdown
[13:54] <drash> IOIOIO: you might want to try the (short) instructions here http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/howto-fixing-grub-after-a-windows-installation-and-fixing-the-grub-menu/ to check your partiton scheme
[13:54] <avuton> ...never been so frusterated. I just booted up ubuntu and it won't let me click anything... any time I try to click something it grabs the window and if I move the mouse it moves the window. Any hints of where I should look for help?
[13:54] <Ward1983> because ubuntu qpperqntly uses 16bit color on my machine
[13:54] <IOIOIO> Tunix, the fact is that I cannot load WInodws from the GRUB!
[13:54] <IOIOIO> There's an error at loading Vista
[13:55] <IOIOIO> Can I fix it with testdisk?
[13:55] <zetheroo> I tried to locate the broken packages in Synaptic ... but there are none to be seen there
[13:55] <zetheroo> why???
[13:55] <TuniX12> IOIOIO: try it
[13:56] <IOIOIO> Tunix
[13:56] <IOIOIO> Can you please guide me?
[13:56] <TuniX12> IOIOIO: i'll try
[13:57] <drash> IOIOIO: try that link, it will take 1 minute to test your GRUB so that can find your windows as well as your linux
[13:57] <dr_Willis> rgnr,  help with a front end. is not the same as help with xmess. :) you may want ty try xmess from the command line to learn the basics. run the front end from a command line to look for any error messages..   and check the xmess docs. Its a rather complex program.
[13:57] <IOIOIO> IOIO
[13:57] <TuniX12> IOIOIO: try sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:57] <IOIOIO> I haven't that problem: my problem is that WINDOWS partition seems damaged!
[13:57] <IOIOIO> On Grub menu there is "Vista"
[13:57] <IOIOIO> But the loading fails
[13:57] <drash> IOIOIO: ok, got ya
[13:58] <Agent_bob> hi i have a junky peace of hardware called a "laptop" which has ati chips,  is there any FOSS way to get acpi support for it, or is it "propritary or nothing" ?    i'm not getting any thermal, battery, or cpu/fan control our of it.   ?
[13:58] <IOIOIO> And I can't open the NTFS partition under Ubuntu
[13:58] <IOIOIO> It says that it's been mounted bad...or that it cannot be mounted
[13:58] <IOIOIO> Please, help me!
[13:58] <IOIOIO> Maybe I can fix something with Testdisk
[13:59] <IOIOIO> But I don't know where to start
[13:59] <TuniX12> IOIOIO: yes that's the problem the last shutdown of Win was wrong
[13:59] <IOIOIO> OK Tunix
[13:59] <IOIOIO> And now?
[13:59] <dr_Willis> IOIOIO,   if the filesystem has been marked as not cleanly unmounted from windows. it will be needed to use the 'force' option to mount it under linux  with ntfs-3g.
[13:59] <dabbill> i just tried to update to the latest nvidia driver off the nvidia web site now every time i boot it goes to low-graphics mode and when i try to run nvidia-settings it says i am not running nvidia driver
[13:59] <TuniX12> IOIOIO:  WINDOWS is installed on C on SATA drive??
[13:59] <^root1> hi! I am using firefox 2 on ubuntu, and I can see arabic/urdu in it, most of text is: ے
[13:59] <IOIOIO> Yes, Tunix
[14:00] <rgnr> dr_Willis:  so i did run it froim from terminal
[14:00] <TuniX12> IOIOIO: try  sudo apt-get install testdisk
[14:00] <IOIOIO> Ok
[14:00] <IOIOIO> Done
[14:00] <IOIOIO> Now'
[14:00] <zetheroo> anyone?
[14:01] <guido_> server irc.tiscalinet.it
[14:01] <aasdf> server irc.tiscalinet.it
[14:01] <Kitu> please
[14:01] <Ward1983_> ffs i was connected but not connected :S
[14:01] <Kitu> why :
[14:01] <Kitu> kiki@kiki-desktop:~/xf86-video-ati$ sudo insmod /lib/modules/`uname -r`/volatile/fglrx.ko
[14:01] <Kitu> insmod: error inserting '/lib/modules/2.6.24-18-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': -1 Operation not permitted
[14:02] <zetheroo> please help
[14:02] <zetheroo> :-(
[14:02] <Kitu> oh
[14:02] <TuniX12> where is he??
[14:02] <Ward1983_> my installation is getting crappyer by the dqmn day
[14:02] <Kitu> i must change kernel version ?
[14:02] <TuniX12> IOI??
[14:02] <dabbill> i just tried to update to the latest nvidia driver off the nvidia web site now every time i boot it goes to low-graphics mode and when i try to run nvidia-settings it says i am not running nvidia driver
[14:02] <Kitu> TuniX12, me ?
[14:02] <Ward1983_> how can i set my color depth without opening xorg.conf ?
[14:02] <TuniX12> no the guy who have problem with grub
[14:02] <dr_Willis> dabbill,  i noticed a similer thing earlier. I had to reboot in order to be able run the nvidia-settings tool
[14:02] <Kitu> lol
[14:03] <Kitu> TuniX12, why don't you help me ? :)
[14:03] <dabbill> dr_Willis, rebooted several times
[14:03] <TuniX12> IOIOIO
[14:03] <jrib> Ward1983_: xdpyinfo| grep 'depth of root'
[14:03] <TuniX12> lol
[14:03] <dabbill> dr_Willis, every time i reboot it comes up with low-graphics mode
[14:03] <Agent_bob> no answers ?
[14:03] <rgnr> but wtf! i got frontend for xmess
[14:03] <TuniX12> Agent_bob: your problem?
[14:04] <rgnr> whtre do i put it?
[14:04] <Agent_bob> hi i have a junky peace of hardware called a "laptop" which has ati chips,  is there any FOSS way to get acpi support for it, or is it "propritary or nothing" ?    i'm not getting any thermal, battery, or cpu/fan control our of it.   ?
[14:04] <pablo> drash: its working man, should i delete the other menu?
[14:04] <Ward1983_> jrib, my color dept...
[14:04] <TuniX12> Agent_bob: sorry there is no
[14:04] <pablo> drash: its cooler than i tough
[14:04] <TuniX12> sure you have HP laptop
[14:05] <dabbill> if i run sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg i can atleast get my resultion back to normal but i cant get nvidia-settings or compiz to work
[14:05] <drash> pablo: why not if it's not working ? or do you mean something else besides removing the menu item ?
[14:05] <Ward1983_> jrib, what you sayd is not funny from my point of view, because im fed up with ubuntu for weeks, my system does nothing then crash and then i NEED to reboot, and nobody can help me
[14:05] <dr_Willis> dabbill,  you may wan tto try the    envyng tool if you must have the latest drivers.. My 8800 works good with the normal nvidia-glx-new
[14:05] <Agent_bob> TuniX12 you talking to me ?
[14:05] <TuniX12> Agent_bob: yes
[14:05] <drash> pablo: yes, quite nice (and not so CPU/RAM hungry as other docks i treid)
[14:05] <Agent_bob> TuniX12 no. it's not hp.
[14:05] <jrib> Ward1983_: I answered your question... that is your color depth.
[14:05] <dabbill> dr_Willis, tried useing envyng-gtk same thing when i reboot
[14:05] <Ward1983_> jrib, dont feel guilty though, i had allready decided to switch to debian when i have the time, right now i just want to do my schoolwork
[14:06] <pablo> drash: the kiba is working, but i dont know if i should delete the standard menu
[14:06] <pavilion> Sorry
[14:06] <pavilion> I'm here again
[14:06] <Ward1983_> jrib, why is is expressed in plqnes :s
[14:06] <dabbill> dr_Willis, even removed driver useing envy, removed envy, removed nvidia-glx-new and loaded the restricted driver, rebooted and get the same low graphics stuff
[14:06] <IOIOIOIO> I was IOIOIO
[14:06] <zetheroo> how to fix broken packages that are not visable in Synaptic?
[14:06] <IOIOIOIO> Tunix, are you here?
[14:06] <dr_Willis> dabbill,  yep, I had to twiddle with this machine a few times to get it working right.. in the end. I think i DELETED the xorg.conf and  rebooted. :) it then let me run the nvidia tools.
[14:06] <drash> pablo: oh you mean the panel ? i did, all of them lol, you can always get those back if you want them
[14:06] <TuniX12> ah
[14:06] <ubuntugeek> Hi guys! After I've installed virtualbox modules, all my syster drivers have been broken. I already delete virtualbox and reconfigured xorg file, but my sound drivers is steal broken. How can i fix it? (ubuntu just didn't see the sound card)
[14:06] <Ward1983_> jrib, sorry i thought you meant do let me do something funny
[14:06] <IOIOIOIO> We were talking about TESTDISK
[14:06] <IOIOIOIO> I've installed it, now?
[14:06] <TuniX12> yes
[14:07] <TuniX12> IOIOIOIO: installed?
[14:07] <jrib> Ward1983_: I don't know why it is expressed in planes
[14:07] <pablo> drash: thanks for the help
[14:07] <IOIOIOIO> Yes, installed
[14:07] <Ward1983_> jrib, but 24plqnes == 24bit right?
[14:07] <IOIOIOIO> Loaded, use the verb you prefer
[14:07] <jrib> Ward1983_: yes
[14:07] <Leefmc> Is there a default-ubuntu way to set a very wide wallpaper to stretch accross two workspaces? (Desk1 & Desk2)
[14:07] <TuniX12> IOIOIOIO: NOW  tape sudo testdisk
[14:07] <rick_> hey wath is a application to instal some linux prgramms  ?
[14:07] <dr_Willis> dabbill,  my issue was more of a 'xorg.conf' being goofy - then the drivers being goofy. I think.
[14:07] <Ward1983_> jrib, and can i try to set it to 32bit ?
[14:07] <drash> pablo: i run it with a standalone tray, that's the only think in kiba that seems flacky .. no problem, enjoy it :)
[14:07] <ubuntugeek> Anybody can help me?
[14:07] <IOIOIOIO> Ok
[14:07] <IOIOIOIO> Now?
[14:08] <TuniX12> choose with log option
[14:08] <IOIOIOIO> Tunix, isn't is better if we talk on private conversation?
[14:08] <jrib> Ward1983_: see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth#32-bit_color
[14:08] <TuniX12> create log
[14:08] <ubuntugeek>  After I've installed virtualbox modules, all my syster drivers have been broken. I already delete virtualbox and reconfigured xorg file, but my sound drivers is steal broken. How can i fix it? (ubuntu just didn't see the sound card)
[14:08] <dr_Willis> dabbill,  heres my working xorg.conf for my nvidia 8800 - if you want to look at it.  http://pastebin.com/f56f09565
[14:08] <Ward1983_> jrib, thanx a lot :)
[14:08] <TuniX12> IOIOIOIO: pm me
[14:08] <dabbill> dr_Willis, i even tried loading my old xorg.conf from before i tried the driver from the nvidia website and still does the same thing
[14:08] <IOIOIOIO> OK
[14:08] <rick_> wat programme can i use for using to install programms ?
[14:08] <siccness_> ladies
[14:08] <siccness_> whats up
[14:08] <dr_Willis> dabbill,  i tested mine by stopping the gdm service. and running 'startx' also. i got a few error messages that way to point me to what to do.
[14:09] <jrib> siccness_: please stay on the topic of ubuntu support here
[14:09] <siccness_> apologies, chief.
[14:09] <ubuntugeek> Guys, please help me! This virtualbox afterending makes me so sad, that I'm already thinking about going to Windows XP!
[14:09] <Ward1983_> jrib, you haven't heard of funky gnome crashes by any chance? my system crashes randomly for weeks and i think its gnome, at least is seems like it
[14:09] <drash> rick_: Synaptic or the add/remove option
[14:09] <siccness_> ubuntugeek: your choice.
[14:09] <Ward1983_> or anyone else offcourse
[14:10] <siccness_> ubuntugeek: if you want help, tell me
[14:10] <icecubex132Q8_> why i cant view windows share in 8.4
[14:10] <siccness_> ask your question, explain it
[14:10] <siccness_> and ill fix it
[14:10] <skyhawk> is a p3 700Mhz fast enough for ubuntu?
[14:10] <jrib> Ward1983_: if they seem random, I'd run a memtest first.  Then I'd suspect binary video drivers if you are using them (try a different one)
[14:10] <siccness_> im on fire tonight
[14:10] <ubuntugeek>  After I've installed virtualbox modules, all my syster drivers have been broken. I already delete virtualbox and reconfigured xorg file, but my sound drivers is steal broken. How can i fix it? (ubuntu just didn't see the sound card)
[14:10] <ubuntugeek> Here's my question.
[14:10] <gianluca> gomorra
[14:10] <chase_this> hallo, i'm not able to share a folder, can anyone help me?
[14:10] <dr_Willis> icecubex132Q8_,  ive had a lot of issues with seeing shares under hardy. :(  still havent tracked down the exact issue.. I did notice that 'smb4k' was able to see/mount my shares. when other apps couldent.  (not a good fix.. but  a fix)
[14:10] <Agent_bob> skyhawk sure.  i run ubuntu on a p1mmx 100mhz box   but you can't expect 3d crap to work on it.
[14:10] <siccness_> the first problem here, is installing virtualbox
[14:10] <zetheroo> please help me fix broken packages
[14:10] <drash> skyhawk: i run one of those with Xubuntu just fine, compiz and everything if you have a decent video card on it
[14:10] <siccness_> its a horrible piece of junk
[14:11] <Ward1983_> jrib, memory is ok i allready tested that
[14:11] <ubuntugeek> i now, this one was my mistake
[14:11] <jrib> siccness_: may I /msg you?
[14:11] <avuton> I just booted up ubuntu and it won't let me click anything... any time I try to click something it grabs the window and if I move the mouse it moves the window. Any hints of where I should look for help?
[14:11] <siccness_> jrib: yeah, sure thing mate
[14:11] <dabbill> dr_Willis, i am just getting a black screen when i type startx
[14:11] <Ward1983_> jrib, im just using the normal nvidia driver thats in the repos :(
[14:11] <icecubex132Q8_> dr_Willis:  is it a bug in 8.4
[14:11] <skyhawk> I dont care for compiz
[14:11] <jrib> Ward1983_: see if you get the crashes using nv
[14:11] <gaohua> ...
[14:12] <rick_> how do i install my invidea driver ? :S
[14:12] <Agent_bob> skyhawk then you'll have no problems with it.
[14:12] <skyhawk> k thanks
[14:12] <ubuntugeek> But how can fix that problem? Deleting virtualbox didn't helped much with fixing sound card
[14:12] <Ward1983_> jrib, great idea!
[14:12] <gaohua> where is kiba-dock?
[14:12] <Ward1983_> rick_, go to system -> administration -> restricted drivers
[14:13] <Ward1983_> rick_, there should be a list of the restricted drivers you can use for your system, and you can activate them there
[14:13] <drash> gaohua: try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=728231
[14:13] <pho3nix_> How is support for on-board sound cards?
[14:13] <pho3nix_> I've followed the sound TBSHTNG, but I'm stuck. Can't find any drivers.
[14:14] <ubuntugeek> Guys, how can I restore drivers for sound card?  Terminal tells me Intel HDA
[14:15] <mnemo> ubuntugeek: try re-installing the ubuntu kernel modules package
[14:15] <johnnypea> !compiz
[14:15] <xim>  what does it mean that ubuntu is considered 'unstable' debian, like debian sid, what does that mean?
[14:15] <ubuntugeek> mnemo: How can i do that? Tell me the command please.
[14:15] <frances> is there a way to temporarily shutdown the computer usage primary host OS on virtualbox? so that all memory could be concentrated on the guest host
[14:16] <icecubex132Q8_> help i need p2p programm frostwire is not working with 8.4
[14:16] <mnemo> ubuntugeek: i dont have ubuntu near me right now but use "apt-cache search modules" and maybe you can find the package name
[14:16] <frances> es> is there a way to temporarily shutdown the computer usage on the primary host OS on virtualbox? so that all memory could be concentrated on the guest host
[14:16] <drash> moon: try helix-player and mozilla-helix-player (the plugin)
[14:16] <mnemo> ubuntugeek: and then when you've found the package name you run "sudo apt-get install --reinstall the_package_name"
[14:16] <maek> how do I install the latest version of Banshee ?? and do people think that the latest version of Banshee is better than Rythmbox ??
[14:16] <Cristi1990> hy how can i change screen resolution to higher?
[14:17] <Leefmc> Is http://packages.ubuntu.com/ slow as tar for anyone else?
[14:17] <bmk789> what program does the pop up notifications in the corner in gnome?
[14:17] <moon> okey
[14:17] <ubuntugeek> ok, thx, i'll try that
[14:17] <maek> Cristi1990, System > Preferences > Screen Resolution
[14:17] <Cristi1990> maek: lol it's max 800x600 i want it 1280
[14:18] <Agent_bob> frances all ?   no.   you might trim ship somewhat but not a "pivot_root" type thing, no.
[14:18] <johnnypea> is compiz preinstalled in Ubuntu 8.04?
[14:18] <maek> Cristi1990, could be a problem with your drivers .. are they installed ??
[14:19] <goanookie> johnnypea, yes it is
[14:19] <drash> pho3nix already gone ?
[14:19] <mnemo> ubuntugeek: there is like different module packages for different kernel versions I think, so check "uname -a" to find your kernel version and choose a matching package
[14:19] <maek> johnnypea, yeah and its enabled by default
[14:19] <mnemo> ubuntugeek: it might be linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-18-386 (not sure if you use x64 or x86 machine though)
[14:19] <frances> Agent bob: what would I do again?
[14:19] <Cristi1990> maek: uhm just installed ubuntu so idk i guess not but there was a tutorial on how to change the res
[14:19] <johnnypea> and why functions in Advanced desktop Effect Settings are not working for me?
[14:20] <dabbill> when i try to run startx i get Fatal server error: Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices
[14:20] <Agent_bob> frances about all you can do is shut down programs and services that are not needed.   you can't "empty" the host system
[14:20] <maek> Cristi1990, what graphics card have you got ??
[14:21] <Tobby> Is there any repositories that i should add to my Kubuntu that is not inside the adept manager from before?(added all in option menu)
[14:21] <drash> pho3nix_: what is the output of "cat /proc/asound/cards" ?
[14:21] <dabbill> dr_Willis, when i try to run startx i get Fatal server error: Cannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs for all framebuffer devices
[14:22] <dr_Willis> dabbill,  I dont see whyt you have X configured for framebuffer at all
[14:22] <dabbill> dr_Willis, i dont think i do, not even sure what that is
[14:22] <johnnypea>  why functions in Advanced Desktop Effect Settings are not working for me? do I need to install some driver? pls give some webpage or something...
[14:23] <wgrant> johnnypea: Which functions?
[14:23] <pablo> drash: how do i make the windows as big as the screen having the kiba on top?
[14:23] <Cristi1990> maek: uhm i don't know for sure i guess nvidia but how do i install the drivers?
[14:23] <drash> johnypea: try this to check http://forlong.blogage.de/article/pages/Compiz-Check
[14:23] <kahrytan> Can anyone help me troubleshoot nvidia 7200 problem? The Ubuntu fails to load X after loading screen. No Xorg.log is generated.
[14:24] <pablo> drash: the windows have an empty space below and then is the window, should i use autohide?
[14:24] <maek> http://www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html Cristi1990 install this .deb file then select the option to install the nvidia drivers IF you have a nvidia card
[14:24] <qense> what part of Linux/GNU is responsible for keeping track of the opening and closing of CD/DVD-drives?
[14:24] <laeg> pablo: autohide is disgusting imho
[14:24] <dabbill> dr_Willis, any idea what i can do to fix this? and why even tryin to reinabling the restricted driver doesnt fix it?
[14:24] <kahrytan> It looks like i hcave to switch back to Windows since ubuntu doesnt play nice witht 7200
[14:25] <johnnypea> eg. Desktop Cube, Fade to Desktop, or "Edge Setting" in Ubuntu Tweak app
[14:25] <dabbill> dr_Willis, i really dont want to reinstall again :(
[14:25] <drollo> hey all
[14:25] <drash> pablo: not sure if i understand, i don't have that at all, but you might wanna check the kiba settings
[14:25] <johnnypea> wgrant: Do I need to restart?
[14:26] <wgrant> johnnypea: It probably means you don't have Compiz running at all..
[14:26] <legend2440> dabbill: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172225
[14:26] <drollo> please help me, im trying to set ubuntu to auto log me in, and as soon as it does to auto lock the screen. can this be done?
[14:26] <gnuskool> dabbill: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/fatal-server-error-cannot-run-in-framebuffer-mode.-270837/
[14:27] <wgrant> drollo: Why would you want to do that?
[14:27] <gnuskool> kahrytan: whats in/var/log/messages
[14:27] <dabbill> neither one of those sites say any thing about fixing it
[14:27] <zetheroo> anyone?
[14:27] <kahrytan> gnuskool,  What you looking for
[14:27] <gnuskool> kahrytan: system messages
[14:28] <drollo> wgrant:  im having problems with finding this computer on the network unless i log in.
[14:28] <laeg> zetheroo: why aren't the packages visible in synaptic?
[14:28] <kahrytan> gnuskool,  Which one
[14:28] <gnuskool> kahrytan: i dont know but have a look in there to troubleshoot
[14:29] <zetheroo> laeg: when I go to Fix broken packages nothing happens... and in the broken packages filter there are no listings.... but when I try to install something I am told there are broken packages
[14:29] <legend2440> dabbill: yes they do. one says run   xorgconfig   and other says   I disabled framebuffer with boot parameters vga=normal splash=0 and it's working now.
[14:29] <kahrytan> gnuskool,  Only thing related to nvidia is Module license NVIDIA  taints kernel
[14:29] <dr_Willis> dabbill,  i would  install one of the drivers.. and reboot.. then stop gdm , and use 'startx' noteing the error messages.
[14:29] <kahrytan> gnuskool,  but like i said, there is no xorg log
[14:29] <dabbill> legend2440, xorgconfig command not found
[14:30] <daYZman_> hi
[14:30] <dr_Willis> dabbill,  it should say if it cant load the modules,  check that nvidia is set in the xorg.conf file. - and try startx again. My issue was with a goofy xorg.conf file. Not the nvidia drivers.
[14:30] <renfrew> anyone else having issues with thier gnome top panel, stuff gets shuffled around sometimes on startup?
[14:30] <roycocup> well
[14:30] <dr_Willis> dabbill,  as a test you could try my working xorg.conf i posted earlier also.
[14:30] <kahrytan> Can anyone help me troubleshoot nvidia 7200 problem? The Ubuntu fails to load X after loading screen. No Xorg.log is generated. Nvidia driver used.
[14:30] <roycocup> is there a way to kill the xsession?
[14:30] <roycocup> im using the ctrl+alt+f1
[14:30] <daYZman_> can a linux machine make a direct connection to a windows machine to share the internet? basically the windows machine is connected to the internet, but can i make a direct connection with the linux machine in order for it to have access?
[14:31] <johnnypea> wgrant: I run the check following this site http://forlong.blogage.de/article/pages/Compiz-Check and everything passed "OK" , please what can be other problem?
[14:31] <siccness_> daYZman_: yes
[14:31] <roycocup> and i cant kill the tty8 where the session is
[14:31] <renfrew> anyone else having issues with thier gnome top panel, stuff gets shuffled around sometimes on startup?
[14:31] <siccness_> jrib: i kept it to one line
[14:31] <kahrytan> Why cant anyone help me out?
[14:31] <gnuskool> kahrytan: how did you install the driver, was it a compile?
[14:31] <roycocup> is there a way to kill the xsession?
[14:31] <daYZman_> siccness_, so would i setup the connection on the host windows machine in the normal windows way? how do i do that on my guest linux machine?
[14:31] <siccness_> kahrytan: unfortunately, ive been told off for helping, sorry.
[14:31] <dabbill> dr_Willis, i have tried all that, i get no errors with startx, i get my 1600x1050 resultion but nvidia-settings / compiz dont work
[14:32] <zetheroo> laeg: any ideas?
[14:32] <kahrytan> gnuskool,  hardware drivers.
[14:32] <Skrux> hello
[14:32] <siccness_> daYZman_: cant help you mate, jrib will tell you why.
[14:32] <kahrytan> gnuskool, and you cant compile nvidia drivers.
[14:32] <Skrux> can anyone tell me whiche shell package I can use to program the start and end of applications via time ?
[14:32] <gnuskool> kahrytan: download them from the site and check this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=699693
[14:33] <dr_Willis> dabbill,   weird. do you see the nvidia logo?     i ran the 'nvidia-xconfig -a' command and restarted X and mine took off..  the new 'minimal setting xorg.conf' stuff has been goofing a lot of people up  lately. :(
[14:33] <drollo> wgrant: do you know how i can do it?
[14:33] <dr_Willis>  Skrux  you mean to say you want an application to run ONLY for a specific ammount of time?
[14:33] <icecubex132Q8_> what is the best programm to use dvb cards with?
[14:33] <Skrux> dr_Willis: yeah
[14:33] <renfrew> Skrux:  I think you mean anacron or changing your crontab file
[14:34] <dabbill> dr_Willis, i never see the nvidia logo it doenst work with the newer 8800GT cards
[14:34] <Skrux> To control rtorrent
[14:34] <zetheroo> ok
[14:34] <saly> hi all
[14:34] <abdulla> hello evryone... are there firewalls in ubuntu?
[14:34] <renfrew> nvm
[14:34] <Skrux> renfrew: I'll serach the anacron
[14:34] <dr_Willis> dabbill,  Hmm.. i got a older 8800gtsxxx :) guess im lucky
[14:34] <Skrux> thanxxxx
[14:34] <dr_Willis> well its thunderstorming here.. i will bbl.
[14:34] <kahrytan> Can anyone help me troubleshoot nvidia 7200 problem? The Ubuntu fails to load X after loading screen. No Xorg.log is generated. Nvidia driver used.
[14:34] <renfrew> abdulla: yeah, ufw or firestarter
[14:35] <roycocup> Hey guys, is there a way to kill the X session by doing a reverse to Startx?
[14:35] <abdulla> ok how can i stop it?
[14:35] <gnuskool> kahrytan: reinstall the driver.....
[14:35] <NthDegree> roycocup, pkill X
[14:35] <NthDegree> ?
[14:35] <roycocup> thanks NthDegree
[14:35] <saly> Does anyone know the way, howto run some commands, when the kernel is updating? (i need to rebuild the wifi drivers after kernel update)
[14:35] <ompaul> kahrytan, was it working before you used that driver?
[14:35] <icecubex132Q8_> kahrytan: change nvidia to nv in xorg.conf
[14:35] <abdulla> renfrew: how can i stop or close the firewall?
[14:35] <gnuskool> kahrytan: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) --reinstall
[14:35] <MolePrin1e> Howdy.  How may I enable an external monitor after X is started please?
[14:35] <NthDegree> abdulla, there is none by default
[14:36] <MolePrin1e> If it is plugged in before I start X, it uses the external resolution and the laptop display is all messed up.
[14:36] <NthDegree> abdulla, Ubuntu doesn't require one as no vulnerable services accept connections from the Internet
[14:36] <kahrytan> ompaul,  It works w/o the driver
[14:36] <NthDegree> =]
[14:36] <kahrytan> ompaul,  NV works
[14:36] <roycocup> NthDegree just one more question....ive got the 8.04 Cd here... and I would like to upgrade it trough the CLI... is there a way to do this?
[14:36] <abdulla> NthDegree : ok what is then slowing down my downloads
[14:36] <NthDegree> roycocup, apt-get update && apt-gst upgrade (as root)
[14:37] <kahrytan> icecubex132Q8_,  nv doesnt allot for compiz
[14:37] <NthDegree> apt-get upgrade *
[14:37] <shenlong> How can I "kill" pulseaudio? I wanna do this because wine doesn't support it (i have no sound in warcraft3) http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/247469/
[14:37] <kahrytan> icecubex132Q8_,  nv doesnt allow for compiz or gaming
[14:37] <roycocup> thanks NthDegree
[14:37] <renfrew> abdulla: you have to consciously enable it, its not on by default.. try sudo ufw status ( I think).. I use firestarter.. its a gui
[14:37] <ompaul> kahrytan, and somethings are not going to work did you try envyng?
[14:37] <Skrux> renfrew: what's the difference between anacron, cronjob and kcron ?
[14:37] <icecubex132Q8_> kahrytan: yes but at least youll have your xserver back
[14:37] <ompaul> kahrytan, btw this is not saying that will work - but it might
[14:37] <legend2440> MolePrin1e: what video card? ati or nvidia?
[14:37] <NthDegree> Skrux, anacron does missed jobs only
[14:37] <icecubex132Q8_> kahrytan: what is your graphic card
[14:37] <Skrux> renfrew: is there one by shell ?
[14:37] <NthDegree> Skrux, cron is a daemon for executing things when they happen
[14:37] <kahrytan> ompaul, That just install nvidia driver
[14:37] <drollo> is there a way to make my computer auto logon and then auto lock its self?
[14:38] <NthDegree> Skrux, kcron is a frontend for doing cron jobs isn't it?
[14:38] <Skrux> NthDegree: what do you mean: missed jobs ?
[14:38] <kahrytan> icecubex132Q8_,  nvidia 7200gs  which  is 7300le
[14:38] <NthDegree> Skrux, yeah anacron does the missed stuff
[14:38] <renfrew> Skrux: different frontends to the same thing... program scheduling services
[14:38] <saly> Does anyone know the way, howto run some commands, after kernel update? (i need to rebuild the wifi drivers after each kernel update)
[14:38] <MolePrin1e> legend2440: Intel Mobile, actually
[14:38] <ompaul> kahrytan, did you actually try it
[14:38] <icecubex132Q8_> kahrytan: install envy
[14:38] <drollo> i managed to do it in kubuntu but cant seem to do it on ubuntu
[14:39] <ompaul> !envyng
[14:39] <Skrux> thanxs I 'll see
[14:39] <kahrytan> ompaul,  envyng .. yes..
[14:39] <renfrew> anyone else having issues with thier gnome top panel, stuff gets shuffled around sometimes on startup?
[14:39] <ompaul> kahrytan, and no improvement - then I guess your card does not like the official drivers
[14:39] <kahrytan> ompaul,  yet some people it works for them
[14:39] <legend2440> MolePrin1e: sorry i have ati. i connected 2nd monitor and it just worked
[14:40] <kahrytan> ompaul,  i just wish ubuntu would give me a freakin error. that would help
[14:40] <PeterP24> Hi; How can I add the hardy repositories in gutsy?
[14:40] <renfrew> gtg... later
[14:40] <ompaul> kahrytan, perhaps they don't have the exact chipset you do
[14:41] <kahrytan> ompaul,  same card
[14:41] <kahrytan> thus same gpu
[14:41] <legend2440> PeterP24: you want to replace gutsy repos with hardy? or add hardy to gutsy repos and have both?
[14:42] <avuton> I just booted up ubuntu and it won't let me click anything... any time I try to click something it grabs the window and if I move the mouse it moves the window. Any hints of where I should look for help?
[14:42] <PeterP24> to have both
[14:42] <MolePrin1e> quit
[14:42] <fang> s
[14:43] <Skrux> which is the best, anacron or cron ?
[14:43] <Skrux> anacron is based in cron ?
[14:43] <kahrytan> ompaul,  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) (It's 7200gs actually)
[14:43] <WIDESPREADpanic> hi, what is the name of the vmware package i need to install xp on my ubuntu
[14:43] <johnnypea> thank you everybody who helped me with compiz thing :)
[14:44] <liken> any one use cedega
[14:44] <hyphenated> Skrux: depends on the problem..
[14:44] <laeg> liken: you should use wine
[14:44] <jube> drollo, you still there?
[14:44] <legend2440> PeterP24: wouldn't that seriously mess things up?
[14:44] <WIDESPREADpanic> hi, what is the name of the vmware package i need to install xp on my ubuntu
[14:45] <liken> wow dosnt work
[14:45] <hyphenated> Skrux: cron for servers that are always running, anacron for things that don't run all the time (like laptops)
[14:45] <PeterP24> I don't know
[14:45] <Skrux> hyphenated: I want to execute rtorrent from 12 to 3 for example, when the computer is always connected and I need it on shell not X
[14:45] <kahrytan> Can anyone help me troubleshoot nvidia 7200 problem? The Ubuntu fails to load X after loading screen. No Xorg.log is generated. Nvidia driver used.
[14:45] <ompaul> kahrytan, you are using hardy I take it
[14:45] <Skrux> hyphenated: perfect
[14:45] <Skrux> then: cron
[14:45] <kahrytan> ompaul,  yes
[14:46] <jube> drollo, this command will lock the screen "gnome-screensaver-command --lock"
[14:46] <pablo> how do i add a desktop link to kiba
[14:46] <jube> so you can put that in your sessions as a startup program to lock the screen upon login
[14:46] <kahrytan> ompaul, im gonna try nvidia download
[14:46] <pablo> how do i add a desktop link to kiba-dock so it will minimize all the windows
[14:46] <hyphenated> Skrux: both anacron and cron suck equally for things that need a GUI (X), they're both really for background tasks that don't involve user input
[14:47] <BobDingley> hi guys, trying to follow instructions from http://www.tectonic.co.za/wordpress/?p=1153 about XGL/Compiz, anyone been there/seen it before ?
[14:47] <Leefmc> Does Blender246's deb build have an icon hidden in it somewhere? I've got it manually installed (heh, i think :p), but i cannot for the life of me find an icon for blender anywhere. Otherwise all i have is that spring shortcut icon.
[14:47] <ompaul> kahrytan, have a look at this - your mileage may vary:   http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=221313&page=3
[14:47] <Skrux> hyphenated: but it works with no X programs, And I don't see them working, they are on the background?
[14:47] <pablo> how do i add a desktop link to kiba-dock so it will minimize all the windows
[14:47] <kahrytan> ompaul, where
[14:48] <slewis> does anyone know how to get the bouncy boot screen working? I just have the text atm
[14:48] <Skrux> for example: can I tell cron to execute rtorrent or irssi ?
[14:48] <WIDESPREADpanic> hi, what is the name of the vmware package i need to install xp on my ubuntu
[14:48] <ompaul> kahrytan, your mileage may vary:   http://ge.ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=221313&page=3
[14:48] <kahrytan> ompaul, where
[14:48] <hyphenated> Skrux: using screen, probably
[14:48] <ompaul> kahrytan, read the post maybe there is something in there for you I don#t have nvidia and am pointing to a post where someone claims to have gotten it to work
[14:48] <kahrytan> ompaul,  whats the purpose of that link
[14:49] <pablo> how do i add a desktop link to kiba-dock so it will minimize all the windows
[14:49] <Skrux> hyphenated: 'cos irssi, but If I only want that rtorrent starts downloading without any gui ?
[14:49] <kahrytan> ompaul,  I dont see it
[14:49] <PeterP24> I have already added something > http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy main  at the third party software tab - is it ok or it will mess something?
[14:49] <avuton> How do I downgrade all my packages back to the cdrom?
[14:49] <Skrux> hyphenated: is it possible without screen ?
[14:49] <kahrytan> ompaul,  I dont see anyone about 7200 on that page
[14:49] <WIDESPREADpanic> Will someone please answer my question
[14:49] <WIDESPREADpanic> where is the vmware
[14:50] <WIDESPREADpanic> package name?
[14:50] <WIDESPREADpanic> please help
[14:50] <hyphenated> Skrux: not sure about the specifics of those apps. try writing a script and see if you can make it do what you want. then try to make it work with anacron/cron
[14:50] <eggo> virtualbox
[14:50] <trademark> hey
[14:50] <WIDESPREADpanic> eggo , do i need virtualbox to run xp in ubuntu?
[14:50] <Skrux> hyphenated: ok
[14:50] <eggo> yes
[14:50] <BobDingley> does anybody have XGL/Compiz installed on there computer?
[14:50] <Skrux> but it tells me an error
[14:51] <ompaul> kahrytan, this is the relevant piece:  NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GS (G72) 256MB PCI-E x16  if you want to read the stuff around it feel free ;-)
[14:51] <Skrux> hyphenated: cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 5601: Resource temporarily unavailable
[14:51] <legend2440> PeterP24: gutsy and hardy have differences. using hardy repos on gutsy could break something i would think. never tried it myself though
[14:51] <Skrux> I delete the crond.pid file ?
[14:51] <hyphenated> Skrux: no.. what command did you run?
[14:51] <Kitu> it's better with nvidia geforce fx 5400
[14:51] <trademark> I'm having a little problem with my keyboard layout: I want to be able to put accents on letters, but in ZDE I can't make '  anymore with the layouts that make accents (I tried default, eurosign, alt gr dead keys, dead keys)
[14:51] <kahrytan> ompaul,  thats not 7200gs
[14:51] <Kitu> fucking ati radeon 9000
[14:52] <ompaul> !language | Kitu
[14:52] <Skrux> hyphenated: cron
[14:52] <PeterP24> k, thank yhou
[14:52] <Kitu> it's the reality ompaul
[14:53] <hyphenated> Skrux: uh.. you manage your user's cron jobs using the 'crontab' command
[14:53] <trademark> anyone ?
[14:53] <kahrytan> ompaul,  If i dont getit fixed by the time windows comes, im switching back
[14:53] <Kitu> ati is better than nvidia</troll>
[14:53] <ompaul> kahrytan, that as they say is your call
[14:53] <Skrux> hyphenated: ok
[14:54] <trademark> I'm having a little problem with my keyboard layout: I want to be able to put accents on letters, but in ZDE I can't make '  anymore with the layouts that make accents (I tried default, eurosign, alt gr dead keys, dead keys) ---> You guys must know this (a)
[14:54] <densehed>  i got this new comp at a yard sale this morning with no HD, so I hooked this one up to it and I get the grub loading, please wait screen, but it never loads, what's the problem?
[14:54] <audifahrer> Hi
[14:55] <densehed> hey audi could you assist me?
[14:55] <trademark> I'm having a little problem with my keyboard layout: I want to be able to put accents on letters, but in ZDE I can't make '  anymore with the layouts that make accents (I tried default, eurosign, alt gr dead keys, dead keys), what keyboard layout do I need ?
[14:55] <audifahrer> Any ideas why I don't see all available groups in the ubuntu users-manager?
[14:55] <kahrytan> ompaul,  I am getting sick of linux breaking things.
[14:55] <audifahrer> densehed: for what?
[14:55] <densehed>  i got this new comp at a yard sale this morning with no HD, so I hooked this one up to it and I get the grub loading, please wait screen, but it never loads, what's the problem?
[14:55] <densehed> but the computer boots fine from a livecd
[14:56] <ompaul> kahrytan, it works - just the added part does not - reason ask nvidia for specs so it can work right - they won't give it - blame nvidia not GNU/Linux systems ;-)
[14:56] <kahrytan> ompaul, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsNvidia
[14:56] <audifahrer> densehed: maybe wrong jumper setting on the harddisk?
[14:56] <densehed> and the harddrive works fine on my other computer
[14:56] <kahrytan> ompaul,  I blame oss community.
[14:56] <trademark> ompaul, what keyboard layout do I need to be able to make accents on letters AND be able to make ' in Zend Development Environment?
[14:56] <kahrytan> ompaul,  when you develop software, you dont break someone else's code.
[14:56] <densehed> the HD is working fine, i'm using it now on this comp #1
[14:57] <garrin> hi guys, does anyone here knows how to fix dot matrix(LX300) printing?
[14:57] <garrin> *Epson LX300
[14:57] <densehed> comp 2 boots fine from live cd, but when i hook this hd up to it, it freezes on the grub loading please wait
[14:57] <ompaul> trademark, no idea
[14:58] <TuniX12> h
[14:58] <newguy> Hello, I can't play .mkv files properly. They play but very chuggy. Both on VLC and MPlayer, got the libmatroska0 codec installed
[14:58] <newguy> can anyone help ?
[14:58] <dsmith1974> has anyone managed to get radio (bbc) playing through real-player in FF?  Mine is totally garbled/corrupt...
[14:58] <kahrytan> ompaul,  see my link?
[14:58] <noneo> Hi all. How to compile app for Qt3 on newest Ubuntu, where I have only Qt4?
[14:59] <Kaldor|NFLD> does anyone know anything about macslow's cairo-clock?