[09:26] <hayami> use at...where's my desktop?
[09:27] <hayami> or something like that :P
[09:27] <Jucato> (though there's really no "desktop"...)
[09:27] <hayami> xD
[09:34] <nizzle__> for some reason F1 / Help is not working in Evolution Email?
[09:44] <andrew_> can anyone tell me how to restore the original kubuntu theme?
[09:44] <andrew_> anyone?
[09:45] <jussi01> andrew_: go to system settings -> apearance and change it back.....
[09:45] <jussi01> or alt+f2 - kcontrol
[09:47] <naxa> hi...
[09:47] <naxa> can you help me?
[09:49] <jussi01> !ask | naxa
[09:49] <ubotu> naxa: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:49] <andrew_> which one is the dafault theme?
[09:49] <jussi01> polyester IIRC
[09:50] <andrew_> I donn't see that one...
[09:50] <andrew_> seems like I gotto download it....
[09:50] <stdin> you mean plastic ?
[09:51] <andrew_> oh... I see plastik..
[09:53] <naxa> Q1) I'm installing kubuntu 704 to /dev/sda3. I told to the installer to install grub into /dev/sda3. will this be okay?
[09:53] <naxa> Q2) My system won't boot /dev/sda3, it will boot /dev/hda instead. Can I manually add a grub to /dev/hda?
[09:54] <naxa> (I've a windows xp on /dev/hda2 and want it to work afterwards:))
[10:11] <Andr00> hi ppl
[10:14] <voln_> hello, is it possible transfer recycle bin to desktop?
[10:16] <stdin> voln_: transfer ?
[10:16] <voln_> i mean move
[10:16] <stdin> voln_: you want to put an icon on the desktop for it?
[10:17] <voln_> stdin what is command?
[10:17] <stdin> voln_: right click the desktop, choose Create New -> Link to Location and put the URL as trash:/
[10:19] <voln_> stdin what is url as trash?
[10:20] <stdin> voln_: in the window the pops up, put a name you want and the link location as: trash:/
[10:21] <voln_> stdin thanks
[10:24] <eguzkia> c'e un sistema per aggiornarsi da edgy a festy?
[10:24] <stdin> !es
[10:24] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:25] <eguzkia> ho provato con update-manager ma creo che sia solo per kde
[10:25] <eguzkia> ho provato con update-manager ma creo che sia solo per gnome
[10:25] <stdin> !it
[10:25] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:31] <ch40s> where can i look at running processes?
[10:32] <flaccid> ch40s: ksysguard or top or ps
[10:32] <ch40s> ty
[10:32] <flaccid> np
[10:32] <flaccid> !info htop
[10:32] <ubotu> htop: interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3-1 (feisty), package size 43 kB, installed size 172 kB
[10:32] <flaccid> people like that too
[10:33] <rdvon> I cant get kxdock to work.
[10:33] <ch40s> ksysguard worked fine
[10:33] <rdvon> does anyone know any other good docks? besides kooldock
[10:33] <ch40s> needed to kill hl2.exe
[10:34] <jonathant> is there a command that shows all the users on a computer?
[10:34] <flaccid> ch40s: use top and press k to kill
[10:34] <flaccid> jonathant: cat /etc/passwd
[10:34] <voln_> stdin i put link as trash:/, says /home/voln/Desktop/trash:%2f.desktop' nave incorrect format
[10:34] <rdvon> good docks for kde!
[10:35] <jonathant> flaccid, is there one just to show 'people' profiles
[10:35] <jonathant> so not the system ones
[10:36] <stdin> voln_: change the name to something else
[10:36] <voln_> same thing
[10:38] <jonathant> ???
[10:38] <stdin> voln_: remove that file then open kate, put this in there http://stdin.pastebin.us/39372  and save it as "/home/volin/Desktop/trash.desktop"
[10:38] <flaccid> jonathant: maybe awk -F: '{if ($3>=500 && $3<=1000) print $1}' /etc/passwd
[10:38] <voln_> stdin ok
[10:39] <jonathant> that just shows me
[10:39] <jonathant> done
[10:39] <jonathant> just changed the <=1000 to 1003
[10:39] <jonathant> thx
[10:40] <flaccid> ok
[10:40] <flaccid> you could probably find a perl script that does the logic by group names
[10:40] <flaccid> and other properties
[10:42] <_4strO> hi all
[10:42] <flaccid> hi
[10:42] <jussi01> rdvon: what do you want from your dock
[10:42] <jussi01> ?
[10:44] <rdvon> jussi01: just a nice mac osx dock
[10:44] <rdvon> *style
[10:44] <jussi01> rdvon: do you just need launchers?
[10:45] <emilsedgh> rdvon: try kxdocker, os KSmoothDock, or Kooldock, kxdocker is the most feature rich Dock in KDE, (AFAIK)
[10:45] <emilsedgh> s/os/or
[10:45] <rdvon> emilsedgh it gives me a bug.
[10:46] <rdvon> no configuration file or something...
[10:46] <rdvon> I dont know how to fix it.
[10:46] <emilsedgh> rdvon: so try ksmooth dock, and please file a bug report for kxdocker :)
[10:46] <rdvon> emilsedgh: it's already been filed, by alot of people in fact :P
[10:46] <rdvon> and ksmooth dock isn't as good, buggy also ;P
[10:47] <rdvon> I guess I could just use your launcher jussi.
[10:47] <emilsedgh> rdvon: oh, so try reading their comments...most of the times you will find solution in them
[10:48] <jussi01> rdvon: here is what my panel dock looks like: http://www.box.net/shared/i1363oeit6
[10:48] <Merenwen> guys i amnew to irc... can somebody direct me to ubuntu room
[10:48] <jussi01> #ubuntu
[10:48] <Merenwen> its kinda embarassing to say .. but i am lost
[10:48] <rdvon> looks nice jussi01
[10:48] <Merenwen> thanks
[10:49] <rdvon> http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s70/rdvon/snapshot2.png this is what my desktop looks like :P
[10:49] <rdvon> where do i dl your dock?
[10:50] <jussi01> rdvon: you dont.
[10:50] <flaccid> !adeptfix | flaccid
[10:50] <jussi01> just do this:
[10:50] <rdvon> oh, so you just used the kicker?
[10:50] <jussi01> right click on the panel - then add new panel
[10:50] <jussi01> and add a panel.
[10:50] <jussi01> its very simple
[10:51] <jussi01> you make it auto hide, and autosize
[10:51] <rdvon> it's stuck on the side.
[10:51] <rdvon> I cant move it!
[10:51] <rdvon> :O
[10:51] <jussi01> did you add panel? or that stupid dock thing listed?
[10:52] <rdvon> stupid dock thing... :)
[10:52] <jussi01> hehe, just add a normal panel
[10:53] <jussi01> you need to restart x before you can change the prefs for the new panel...
[10:53] <rdvon> er...
[10:53] <rdvon> I'm already messingwith it :P
[10:53] <jussi01> really?
[10:53] <rdvon> yeah.
[10:53] <rdvon> can I get rid of the arrow?
[10:53] <jussi01> you sure you are messing with the bottom panel? not the top one?
[10:53] <jussi01> yes
[10:53] <rdvon> yeah im sure.
[10:54] <jonathant> how do i make SU define a variable and let a normal reader use that variable later? (in a script)
[10:54] <jussi01> rdvon: the arrows can be removed under the hiding tab
[10:54] <rdvon> ok
[10:55] <rdvon> I like the two arrow thing :)
[10:55] <jussi01> ok :)
[10:56] <jussi01> I love it this way, it _never_ crash's
[10:56] <rdvon> your right :P
[10:57] <RivaeAerya> Hi there. I've just downloaded Mac OS X fonts, and i set them up, but they don't look smooth to me.. they look square. How can i fix this?
[10:59] <jussi01> rdvon: when you are done, show me a screenie!
[11:01] <guille> Hello
[11:01] <guille> i need help
[11:01] <jussi01> !ask | guille
[11:01] <ubotu> guille: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:01] <guille> how so i install java runtime enviroment?
[11:01] <stdin> !java
[11:01] <flaccid> !java > guille
[11:02] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[11:02] <jussi01> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[11:02] <jussi01> hmmm... that factoid need updating...
[11:03] <RivaeAerya> I've just downloaded Mac OS X fonts, and i set them up, but they don't look smooth to me.. they look square. How can i fix this?
[11:03] <jussi01> !repeat | RivaeAerya
[11:03] <ubotu> RivaeAerya: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[11:04] <RivaeAerya> alright, thanks :)
[11:09] <guille> hi, i did as you told me but the questin to install Java runtime enviroment keeps coming on mozzila browser
[11:10] <stdin> guille: you need to install the plugin too "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin"
[11:11] <guille> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre  <---- is that the same?
[11:11] <guille> cos i did install that
[11:11] <stdin> guille: no
[11:12] <jussi01> guille: you need both
[11:13] <cevizuser> kimse yok mu
[11:13] <flaccid> and you probably need to update alternatives
[11:13] <jussi01> that also
[11:13] <guille> that didnt  wrong
[11:13] <misafirim-ben> ?
[11:13] <guille> that didnt work
[11:13] <guille> i isntalled sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[11:13] <jussi01> misafirim-ben: do you speak english?
[11:13] <guille> and sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin-jre
[11:13] <misafirim-ben> liter
[11:14] <guille> what language do you speak? i might help you
[11:14] <jussi01> what is you language misafirim-ben
[11:14] <stdin> !tr
[11:14] <ubotu> Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[11:14] <misafirim-ben> yes tr
[11:15] <guille> well i am trying to play cards, but mozzila keeps asking me to install Java Runtime enviroment
[11:15] <jussi01> guille: hang on a sec.
[11:15] <guille> it wroking now
[11:15] <jussi01> ok :)
[11:16] <misafirim-ben> bye ;)
[11:16] <misafirim-ben> :D
[11:26] <lusr> hi
[11:26] <lusr> how do I save YouTube?
[11:29] <[ifr0g] > lusr, kissyoutube.com
[11:30] <lusr> ifr0g I mean with a program in linux
[11:32] <stdin> find youtube | lusr
[11:32] <stdin> !find youtube | lusr
[11:32] <ubotu> lusr: Found: youtube-dl
[11:33] <flaccid> !info youtube-dl
[11:33] <ubotu> youtube-dl: download videos from youtube.com. In component universe, is extra. Version 2007.01.19-1 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 64 kB
[11:33] <lusr> which one is better?
[11:33] <flaccid> there is only 1. install the package youtube-dl
[11:33] <lusr> hot
[11:34] <stdin> cold
[11:34] <flaccid> warm
[11:34] <Jucato> stop
[11:34] <Jucato> :)
[11:34] <flaccid> sart
[11:34] <flaccid> its a start
[11:35] <jussi01> fart
[11:36] <jussi01> ok, I admit, that was really immature....
[11:36] <flaccid> that wasnt very smart
[11:36] <lusr> OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:36] <Jucato> and we should really stop. I mean it this time...
[11:36] <Jucato> !caps | lusr
[11:36] <lusr> upgrading from 6 yo 6.10 FIVE HOURS!!!
[11:36] <ubotu> lusr: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:36] <stdin> if [ "$(users)" = "breaks rules" ]  ; then REASON="Jucato is boss" kick users ; fi ;)
[11:37] <voic1> ?
[11:37] <jussi01> lol
[11:37] <Jucato> I'm not good with bash. I'm not intelikey
[11:37] <flaccid> hmm, can i have that in ruby now please
[11:37] <voic1> am i still here?
[11:37] <voic1> kick voicu pls
[11:37] <jussi01> voic1: yes
[11:37] <Jucato> voic1: must be your ghost
[11:37] <lusr> faster to burn 7.04 and start from scratch
[11:38] <jussi01> voic1: do: /ns ghost voicu yourpasswordhere
[11:39] <voic1> jussi01: doesn
[11:39] <voic1> 't work
[11:39] <jussi01> voic1: give it a momnet
[11:40] <voic1> no, it says unknown command
[11:40] <Jucato> voic1: /msg Nickserv ghost voicu <voicu's password"
[11:40] <voic1> oh, that
[11:40] <Jucato> er.. forget the stray < and " there...
[11:40] <voic1> wee
[11:40] <jussi01> Jucato: doesnt /ns do the samething?
[11:40] <Jucato> not on all servers I think
[11:40] <Jucato> but should, I think...
[11:41] <jussi01> it works on freenode for me...
[11:41] <jussi01> wb voicu
[11:41] <jussi01> lol
[11:41] <voicu> thanks :D
[11:41] <Jucato> wb voic1
[11:42] <voicu> that part of me is dead, don't talk about it anymore :P
[11:42] <Jucato> until a few moments ago, you were a ghost. :)
[11:42] <jussi01> lol
[11:43] <voicu> now... does anyone know how could i make a program that reads all the keystrokes and passes them forward to whichever other program uses the keyboard. something like a keylogger just that it will have a different purpose
[11:45] <voicu> i don't want someone to make me the whole program just tell me where could i start
[11:47] <flaccid> this is kubuntu support channel
[11:47] <Jucato> voicu: I only know of an X utility that sort of returns what key/button was pressed. That's be "xev". beyond that, no idea
[11:48] <voicu> i want to use it on kubuntu, i thought that it's the best place since maybe on other oses i would have to use a different approach
[11:49] <voicu> didn't want to go offtopic
[11:55] <tim> whats this about?
[11:55] <tim> keygrabber program?
[11:55] <tim> what language?
[11:55] <tim> oh he's gone...
[11:56] <tim> nice thing about OSS is that if you want to know how to do something you can just pull the source of a program that does something similar...
[11:58] <guille> hi, at my university they use linux, but in the comand line window you can writte win, and it starts windows in a little window
[11:58] <guille> i would like to do that in my pc, anybody knows how?
[11:59] <stdin> they probably made a script that calls vmware (or similar)
[12:02] <guille> could I do such thing?
[12:02] <bonaldo2000> isnt compiz included in kubuntu as it is in ubuntu?
[12:02] <bonaldo2000> (I mean in ubuntu it can be activated via the control panel - is this not possible in kubuntu?)
[12:03] <stdin> guille: you'd have to install vmware, set up the virtual machine with windows and make a script that calls something like "vmware /home/you/vmware/windows.vmx"
[12:03] <stdin> bonaldo2000: nope
[12:03] <guille> oh that sound like sending a satelite
[12:03] <bonaldo2000> stdin: ok...do you have a link for a good guide to use in order to install it? (and is it worth it?)
[12:04] <stdin> bonaldo2000: go for compiz fusion, it works better on kubuntu than plain compiz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[12:05] <bonaldo2000> stdin: ok, thanks :-)
[12:06] <Ankthepot> stdin: i'm using another distro and i'm just making the installation disk for kubuntu
[12:06] <Ankthepot> compiz fusion has some issiues with some specific websites and programs
[12:06] <Ankthepot> is that fikex in kubuntu?
[12:06] <bonaldo2000> Ankthepot: ok, what issues?
[12:07] <stdin> depends on the version they use and what distro specific patches they use etc
[12:07] <Ankthepot> bonaldo2000: a complete black window until i resize it
[12:10] <bonaldo2000> I get this error when I run "sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-kde": compiz-kde: Depends: libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig but it is not installable
[12:11] <bonaldo2000> what is wrong?
[12:12] <DUKiSA> hi anobady here
[12:12] <DUKiSA> ?
[12:12] <DUKiSA> to help me
[12:12] <DUKiSA> ?
[12:12] <DUKiSA> i have big problem..
[12:12] <DUKiSA> ??
[12:12] <flaccid> what
[12:13] <DUKiSA> when i start kubuntu it say eror 21
[12:13] <DUKiSA> ?
[12:13] <flaccid> did you google
[12:13] <DUKiSA> yes..
[12:13] <DUKiSA> and nothing..
[12:13] <DUKiSA> i try what did they say.. and nothing
[12:13] <flaccid> http://www.google.com/search?q=grub+error+21+ubuntu&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[12:13] <flaccid> lots there
[12:14] <flaccid> also http://www.mepis.org/node/7330
[12:14] <DUKiSA> tnx..
[12:14] <flaccid> 21 : Selected disk does not exist. This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system.
[12:18] <DUKiSA> flaccid: can pvt ?
[12:19] <flaccid> negative
[12:19] <flaccid> no point
[12:19] <DUKiSA> hm chk this
[12:19] <DUKiSA> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grub/2004-07/msg00113.html
[12:19] <DUKiSA> when i click setup (hd0)
[12:19] <DUKiSA> it say
[12:20] <DUKiSA> grub> setup (hd0)
[12:20] <DUKiSA> Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[12:20] <flaccid> do you know what hd0 means?
[12:21] <DUKiSA> no ?
[12:21] <flaccid> there is your problem
[12:21] <DUKiSA> hmz can you help me ?
[12:21] <flaccid> is there anything on the disk you need?
[12:21] <DUKiSA> yes
[12:21] <DUKiSA> windows partision
[12:22] <flaccid> can you boot to livecd?
[12:22] <DUKiSA> yes i`m now on live cd ;]
[12:22] <DUKiSA> windows can`t boot
[12:22] <DUKiSA> :)
[12:22] <DUKiSA> and linux;]
[12:23] <flaccid> please pastebin output of sudo fdisk -l
[12:23] <DUKiSA> Disk /dev/sda: 81.9 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>6 bytes
[12:23] <DUKiSA> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9964 cylinders
[12:23] <DUKiSA> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[12:23] <DUKiSA>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[12:23] <flaccid> !pastebin > DUKiSA
[12:23] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda1   *           1        3824    30716248+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[12:23] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda2            3825        9964    49319550    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[12:23] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda5            3825        8923    40957686    7  HPFS/NTFS
[12:24] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda6            8924        8986      506016   83  Linux
[12:24] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda7            9843        9964      979933+  83  Linux
[12:24] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda8            9721        9842      979933+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[12:24] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda9            9356        9720     2931831   83  Linux
[12:24] <DUKiSA> /dev/sda10           8991        9355     2931831   83  Linux
[12:24] <DUKiSA> Partition table entries are not in disk order
[12:24] <DUKiSA> root@ubuntu:~#
[12:24] <DUKiSA> aha ok soryy
[12:24] <stdin> !paste | DUKiSA
[12:24] <ubotu> DUKiSA: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:24] <DUKiSA> i don`t knew :(
[12:25] <flaccid> what is with all the linux partitions
[12:25] <flaccid> do you know which one is /
[12:25] <DUKiSA> hmzz i think sda5
[12:25] <DUKiSA> but i`m not sure
[12:25] <DUKiSA> becouse i forgive it.. i install kubuntu few days ago.. and i try to fix.. but nothing ;(
[12:26] <flaccid> there are 4 linux partitions
[12:26] <DUKiSA> yes
[12:26] <flaccid> and a swap
[12:26] <DUKiSA> yap
[12:26] <flaccid> there should be 1 plus a swap
[12:26] <flaccid> so what did you do
[12:26] <DUKiSA> don`t knew :(
[12:27] <DUKiSA> this is first time to up linux
[12:28] <flaccid> how did you break it
[12:28] <DUKiSA> ?
[12:28] <flaccid> what did you do to make it not work
[12:28] <DUKiSA> install..
[12:28] <DUKiSA> i resize windows partision
[12:29] <flaccid> right
[12:29] <flaccid> thats what did it
[12:29] <flaccid> what did you use to resize it
[12:29] <DUKiSA> partision magic
[12:29] <flaccid> boom!
[12:29] <flaccid> do you need anything on the linux partitions?
[12:29] <ubunturos> how do I enable Konqueror to execute applets when I have sun-java installed?
[12:29] <DUKiSA> on linux no
[12:29] <DUKiSA> but windows yes..
[12:29] <flaccid> DUKiSA: delete them, reinstall kubuntu
[12:29] <DUKiSA> i try
[12:30] <DUKiSA> and nothing..
[12:30] <flaccid> leave your windows parts/filesystems in place
[12:30] <ubunturos> !java applets
[12:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java applets - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:30] <flaccid> wtf does that mean?
[12:30] <DUKiSA> i try to reistal
[12:30] <DUKiSA> yesterday
[12:30] <DUKiSA> and it dosen`t work.
[12:30] <flaccid> can you be specific with anything
[12:30] <flaccid> i know it doesn't work, you've told me that already
[12:30] <flaccid> what did you try to delete the partitions with
[12:30] <DUKiSA> yes with live cd
[12:31] <DUKiSA> and format
[12:31] <DUKiSA> yes..
[12:31] <flaccid> what program
[12:31] <ubunturos> !applet
[12:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about applet - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:31] <garfield> stdin: the sound for the fireworks wont stop i desable the sound it still going
[12:31] <DUKiSA> flaccid: with installison cd kubnutnu
[12:31] <DUKiSA> ?
[12:32] <flaccid> DUKiSA: delete with fdisk via konsole on livecd then reinstall kubuntu
[12:32] <flaccid> DUKiSA: sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[12:33] <DUKiSA> ok i will
[12:33] <DUKiSA> try
[12:33] <DUKiSA> tnx..
[12:33] <flaccid> DUKiSA: use p to print the partition table and d to delete a partition. when done w for write then quit
[12:34] <flaccid> make sure you do not delete your win parts
[12:34] <garfield> flaccid:   the sound for the fireworks in creen saver wont stop i desable the sound it still going
[12:34] <garfield> lol
[12:34] <flaccid> nice
[12:34] <garfield> flaccid: it hapen to me once i deleted my win
[12:35] <flaccid> lol
[12:35] <garfield> i wonted to breack linux cd apart
[12:36] <garfield> flaccid:   the sound for the fireworks in creen saver wont stop i desable the sound it still going
[12:36] <flaccid> don't repeat garfield
[12:36] <garfield> stdin: sleepen lol
[12:37] <garfield> flaccid: at least u should say i dont realy know or something
[12:37] <garfield> lol
[12:38] <flaccid> don't really know what?
[12:39] <garfield> flaccid: no realy know but checkin up on it or something.i ask u about the sound that dont want to spot from my screen saver
[12:39] <jussi01> !repeat | garfield
[12:39] <ubotu> garfield: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[12:39] <DUKiSA> flaccid: what you think about super grub ?
[12:39] <flaccid> DUKiSA: know nothing about it
[12:39] <DUKiSA> oki
[12:40] <flaccid> garfield: don't expect that people have the answer for any question
[12:40] <flaccid> !sound | garfield
[12:40] <ubotu> garfield: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[12:40] <ubunturos> !patience
[12:40] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:43] <jussi01> garfield: have you tried turning the pcm volume down? right click on the volume icon, click go to mixer and turn pcm down.
[12:45] <GoodHabit> Hello. Help me. My system is broken, but the /var/cache/ is steel present. Can i make repo of downloaded packages?
[12:45] <garfield> jussi01: lol if i turn it down i wont be able to listen to music
[12:45] <maedhros> I get an "Error 22" from grub ??
[12:45] <jussi01> garfield: true. but you didnt say that...
[12:46] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: sure you can! there are many tutorials about this...
[12:46] <garfield> maedhros: what are u trying to do install grub?
[12:47] <GoodHabit> emilsedgh: Sorry, but I have some troubles with english. And I cannot fond it. But i fount the manuals for opensuse and fedora )
[12:47] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: my suggestions: 1)do not re-install your GNU/Linux OS because its broken, it could be solved 2)if you want to create a repository, just search about 'creating debian repository'
[12:47] <maedhros> garfield: grub is installed, but when I start up, I get an "Error 22"
[12:47] <GoodHabit> emilsedgh: I want to reinstall. But downloading again - a couple of time here.
[12:47] <GoodHabit> I need to make repo.
[12:48] <GoodHabit> *Only with packages i have.
[12:48] <flaccid> 22
[12:48] <flaccid> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/749
[12:48] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: so, burn /var/cache/apt/archives into a disc, after reinstall copy all files to your /var/cache/apt/archives again
[12:48] <GoodHabit> emilsedgh: That's all?
[12:48] <GoodHabit> TY!
[12:48] <GoodHabit> ^)
[12:49] <GoodHabit> I thought what that method will not work...
[12:49] <emilsedgh> GoodHabit: thats not how to make repository, but with that you will not need to dl all of them again
[12:51] <maedhros> flaccid: The referenced "http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml" contains no such information about Error 22 :/
[12:51] <garfield> maedhros: do u have windows install?
[12:51] <maedhros> garfield: Yes
[12:52] <garfield> maedhros: the best i can tell u is to enter recover mode and fix your mbr with the comand fixmbr then u reinstall automatic your  grub
[12:54] <RivaeAerya>  Hey. Does anybody know how to tile windows in kde?
[12:54] <RivaeAerya> like this: http://www.suckless.org/~jg/wmii-20070228.png
[12:54] <garfield> maedhros: was grub allready install on your xp and linux and working?
[12:54] <RivaeAerya> But then in KDE
[12:55] <maedhros> I had xp installed, then I installed kubuntu and grub. Now I get  Error 22
[12:55] <maedhros> garfield: ^
[12:55] <anryko> j /ibm
[12:55] <DUKiSA> madaucer:  you have 22 i have 21.. ;(
[12:56] <jussi01> maedhros: try reinstalling grub
[12:56] <jussi01> !grub
[12:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:57] <flaccid> should read what is pasted
[12:58] <garfield> maedhros: then fix your mbr with your xp cd then either reinstall grub or refesh it.
[12:58] <flaccid> update-grub on livecd iirc
[12:58] <garfield> maedhros: i can give u a link for grub but my link is in french :(
[12:59] <RivaeAerya> Hey. Does anybody know how to tile windows in kde? like this, but then in KDE: http://www.suckless.org/~jg/wmii-20070228.png
[12:59] <RivaeAerya> google doesn't give any good answers
[12:59] <garfield> maedhros: /media/SWISNIFE1/tutorielcomment_recuperer_ubuntu_apres_installation_windows - Documentation Ubuntu Francophone.htm look for the part automatiquement
[01:00] <garfield> RivaeAerya: i look at it and i dont understand
[01:00] <dcorbin_work> How do figure out which package contains "kplayer"?
[01:01] <RivaeAerya> garfield: well it's just an example, it's something that makes all the windows go next to eachother, not over eachother. so what i'm looking for is placing all the windows in a grid, next to each other, and below each other
[01:01] <garfield> dcorbin_work: lol
[01:01] <emilsedgh> dcorbin_work: kmplayer, i think
[01:01] <RivaeAerya> garfield: but it's not for KDE
[01:01] <dcorbin_work> There is also "kplayer", which I like much better.
[01:02] <dcorbin_work> I have it on my gentoo system.
[01:02] <jussi01> !find kplayer
[01:02] <jhatleli1> Hi all, I am trying to force X fonts to 96x96. They are at 20x20, My Res is 1280x720 (720p HD). I have tried to add "-dpi 96" and ScreenSize in Xorg.conf with no luck. The driver is a i810 (i915) driver/chipset
[01:02] <jhatleli1> I allso set Xft.dpi: 96
[01:02] <garfield> RivaeAerya: ok i saw that option when i install beryl
[01:02] <ubotu> Package/file kplayer does not exist in feisty
[01:02] <RivaeAerya> garfield: yeah but in beryl you only view them and they don't stay like that, i mean move them permanently that way
[01:03] <dcorbin_work> I know the package doesn't exist.  But it might be in package with another name.
[01:03] <jussi01> dcorbin_work: the file doesnt exist either.
[01:03] <emilsedgh> dunno about kplayer...
[01:03] <jussi01> dcorbin_work: go find the tar, and build it yourself
[01:04] <garfield> RivaeAerya: i dont realy know u will have to check in #ubuntu-effects
[01:05] <dcorbin_work> sadly, the kplayer docs indicate it's part of debian (and derivatives).  Would Kubuntu actually remove something to simplify things?
[01:05] <dwidmann> dcorbin_work: I know the last time I used kplayer I had to build it myself
[01:06] <flaccid> !mga
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mga - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <flaccid> !matrox
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about matrox - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:06] <flaccid> !find mga
[01:06] <ubotu> Found: xserver-xorg-video-mga, mga-vid-common, mga-vid-source
[01:07] <jussi01> !botabuse > flaccid
[01:11] <garfield> dcorbin_work: im lookin at a web site and it have the pack kplayer mplayer.and they explaines how to install etc
[01:12] <dcorbin_work> garfield: thanks.  I missed the line about changing sources.lsit
[01:12] <dcorbin_work> *list
[01:12] <emilsedgh> ah, kplayer should be the KDE's Fronend to mplayer, right?
[01:12] <garfield> dcorbin_work: they allso have the deb for it.but its best if u install it from adept
[01:13] <paradise> hi i have some problem
[01:14] <jussi01> !ask | paradise
[01:14] <ubotu> paradise: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:14] <paradise> emm
[01:15] <paradise> my problem with update
[01:15] <paradise> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36305/ see plz
[01:15] <flaccid> !beingawank > jussi01
[01:16] <paradise> hmm
[01:20] <garfield> paradise: if know one can help u, stdin can but he's sleepen lol :-p
[01:21] <paradise> back
[01:21] <paradise> loooooool
[01:21] <paradise> i think so
[01:22] <^_^> hi to all
[01:22] <^_^> hello ))) ) ) )
[01:22] <dwidmann> hmm, kplayer looks to have gotten a lot better in the last year ... and here I was worried it wasn't being developed anymore ...
[01:23] <garfield> dwidmann: that thing is tellin us hello lol
[01:24] <garfield> dwidmann:  <^_^>
[01:24] <^_^> hi to all....i'm new to kubuntu.....and i've got some probs concerning the "sound"...how do i install the Driver?
 hello
[01:25] <NickPresta> !sound | ^_^
[01:25] <ubotu> ^_^: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:25] <NickPresta> !beingawank > NickPresta
[01:25] <NickPresta> Aww. flaccid got my hopes up :)
[01:25] <^_^> ok thanks a lot
[01:28] <PhinnFort> i'm having a nightmare trying to get kubuntu on my laptop
[01:28] <PhinnFort> xorg fails
[01:28] <PhinnFort> anyone know a lot about the i810 driver?
[01:28] <garfield> nope
[01:29] <NickPresta> !drivers
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:29] <NickPresta> !video
[01:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[01:29] <NickPresta> gah
[01:29] <NickPresta> hold on
[01:29] <PhinnFort> if I don't set a busid, it complains, and if i set one, it wants the other one
[01:29] <garfield> PhinnFort: maybe stdin knows but hes snoozin
[01:29] <PhinnFort> (theres one for the display controller and the vga compatible controller)
[01:30] <garfield> !kdesu
[01:30] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[01:30] <PhinnFort> !xorg
[01:30] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:30] <emilsedgh|AFK> PhinnFort: press alt+ctrl+f1, then login and run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:30] <PhinnFort> emilsedgh|AFK: I'm not in X
[01:31] <NickPresta> PhinnFort, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-0e3051713171cb5d1bf49dc2dc7bea24eb9ed83e
[01:31] <NickPresta> PhinnFort, check that out.
[01:31] <PhinnFort> emilsedgh|AFK: X won't start, it borks with no matching device section for instance busid blah blah
[01:31] <emilsedgh|AFK> PhinnFort: so run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and follow the steps
[01:32] <PhinnFort> NickPresta: tried, but then i get failed to laod module "intel"
[01:32] <PhinnFort> sorry
[01:32] <PhinnFort> forgot to install it;)
[01:33] <PhinnFort> oh, it has no installation candidate...
[01:34] <NickPresta> PhinnFort, I just (simulated) installed xserver-xorg-video-intel. it should work
[01:34] <PhinnFort> ok, i hadn't enabled multi/universe
[01:34] <NickPresta> oh okay.
[01:35] <PhinnFort> is installing now
[01:35] <NickPresta> I'm on my way out so someone else will have to assist you if you need more help.
[01:35] <NickPresta> Good luck
[01:35] <PhinnFort> NickPresta: thanks
[01:35] <PhinnFort> I think I'll manage it now
[01:36] <PhinnFort> hmm, now Xorg starts, but with a blank screen
[01:37] <PhinnFort> and I can't switch back to the terminal...
[01:37] <PhinnFort> i guess i'm making progress
[01:38] <PhinnFort> what's the difference between the -i810 and -intel drivers, btw?
[01:43] <PhinnFort> aside from the fact that one is obviously superior
[01:45] <PhinnFort> can someone give me the majors/minors for /dev/agpgart?
[01:47] <PhinnFort> now I get that Xorg can't open /dev/agpgart
[01:47] <garfield> agpgart?
[01:47] <PhinnFort> yup
[01:47] <PhinnFort> i tried modprobing intel-agp, but no go
[01:48] <aguitel> anyone know to restore GRUB?
[01:48] <PhinnFort> !grub
[01:49] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:57] <dwidmann> PhinnFort: the -intel driver has full 3d support for intel chipsets up through the 965gm afaik
[01:58] <PhinnFort> dwidmann: why is it only in universe then?
[01:58] <dwidmann> is it?
[01:58] <garfield> flaccid: my icons on the destop i want to change the names color.i cant see wa is riten
[01:58] <PhinnFort> universe or multiverse, I didn't check, but it wasn't even installed by default on the install cd
[01:59] <dwidmann> Odd, it's in universe, yet it's maintained by the ubuntu core developers
[01:59] <PhinnFort> can someone paste the output of ls -l /dev/agpgart?
[02:00] <mikko> can anyone suggest some good drivers for ati's X**** series cards? :o
[02:00] <mikko> if any working exist that is
[02:01] <dwidmann> crw-rw---- 1 root video 10, 175 2007-09-03 12:37 /dev/agpgart
[02:01] <PhinnFort> thanks
[02:02] <PhinnFort> hrm... I need agpgart, and I seemingly need to update to kernel .21 to get it
[02:15] <PhinnFort> anyone know why there isn't an agpgart module availabe in ubuntu?
[02:16] <Jucato> PhinnFort: it's in mine... "lsmod | grep agppart"
[02:17] <DUKiSA> anobady knew whove to fix eror 21 on grub ?
[02:17] <Jucato> agpgart*
[02:17] <DUKiSA> who*
[02:20] <jussi01> DUKiSA: have you tried reinstalling rub?
[02:20] <jussi01> grub*
[02:20] <PhinnFort> Jucato: I need to upgrade my kernel, apparently, and that's kinda hard from the livecd
[02:20] <PhinnFort> (I don't suppose there's kexec support in the kubuntu livecd)
[02:22] <PhinnFort> i guess I'll have to try arch linux again
[02:22] <DUKiSA> jussi01: yes and nothing
[02:22] <DUKiSA> !grub
[02:22] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:23] <paradise_> back
[02:23] <paradise_> hi i have some problem
[02:23] <paradise_> my problem with update
[02:23] <paradise_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36305/ see plz
[02:23] <PhinnFort> I don't suppose it's possible to install from cli with the normal install cd?
[02:29] <DexterF> hi
[02:33] <DexterF> !dhcp
[02:33] <ubotu> dhcp is Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, a protocol for automatic IP assignment from a router. Ubuntu uses dhclient as a DHCP client but other ones (and DHCP servers too) can be obtained from the !repos. More info at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHCP
[02:34] <DexterF> !dhcp-hostname
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dhcp-hostname - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <DexterF> !wifi
[02:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:34] <DexterF> how do I make feisty announce its dhcp hostname to the dhcp server?
[02:50] <r0y4l> is there anyone outside with a audigy2zs and got recording via microphone working?
[02:52] <r0y4l> i think that's a wrong mixer setting - i can record the sound that i'm playing i.e. with xmms but can not record something via mic? the mic works on my onboard soundcard.
[02:53] <garfield> stdin: u there?
[02:53] <otto_> hi, my computer can output any sound, any help?
[02:53] <otto_> cannot
[02:53] <otto_> volume on max everywhere
[02:59] <maggio> hi
[03:00] <IOSq> hi
[03:02] <maggio> this channel is english only?
[03:02] <Jucato> maggio: yes
[03:02] <Jucato> !it | magical_trevsky
[03:02] <ubotu> magical_trevsky: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:02] <Jucato> sorry
[03:02] <Jucato> !it | maggio
[03:02] <ubotu> maggio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:03] <juan_>  i have binary nvidia drivers installed but when i change my xorg it says i have no NVIDIA drivers, help
[03:03] <maggio> !it
[03:03] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:06] <kkathman> juan_:  well it makes sense that if you change your xorg that would happen
[03:06] <kkathman> juan_:  trying going back to your previous version that you had
[03:06] <kaye> hi, all. I trying to install Kubuntu 7.04 but i cannot launch KDE-desktop on livecd. System waits for something before launching it and sometimes pring message about ipw 3945...
[03:07] <kaye> How I can disable wireless on booting?
[03:08] <kkathman> kaye:  turn it off on your computer
[03:08] <kkathman> i.e. disable
[03:10] <juan_> ive gone back to the previous but if i have nvidia drivers why is it saying i dont?
[03:10] <kaye> but kernel does pause with turned on and off wireless
[03:11] <roberto_> salve ragazzi
[03:12] <kkathman> juan_:  there are actually two parts of the video driver, one is loaded at boot time, the other is loaded from the xorg
[03:12] <roberto_> qualche consiglio su come far girare beryl su feisty 7 nvidia g4 440?
[03:12] <kkathman> !it
[03:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:12] <kkathman> !es
[03:12] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[03:12] <ksivaji> !games
[03:12] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[03:13] <juan_> kkathman: how do install both parts last time i used nvidia i just selected it and it worked
[03:14] <kkathman> juan_:  well if it has worked in the past, hopefully you have a copy of that xorg.conf
[03:14] <kkathman> usually its the Device and Screen sections that must be correctly set up
[03:15] <kkathman> if not, you'll need to manually change those juan if they arent there
[03:16] <kkathman> juan_:  and when you "used nvidia" it installed the appropriate driver and made changes to your xorg.org for you probably
[03:17] <garfield> kkathman: ive been receavin problem everytime i reinstall linux to update,i tink there is a pack thats keep breaken.everytime i got that problem i can no longer install with adept maneger or sudo apt-get install.any idea how to fix this? here's what adept told me http://pastebin.com/m5512d4e
[03:17] <juan_> nope it installed it and i put "nvidia" in the xorg.conf then it work :s meh ill take a closer look at xorg.conf
[03:18] <kkathman> garfield:  yes that happens sometimes - are you trying to get something from the repositiories or via a 3rd party?
[03:19] <kkathman> garfield:  this can also happen if the package (a) has version mismatches or (b) is corrupt
[03:19] <garfield> kkathman: i just click on update in adept and it seem it update everything thats need to update
[03:20] <kkathman> garfield:  if thats the case, it probably should be reported - is the package a 3rd party or base kubuntu?
[03:20] <kaye> is there command for disable wireless?
[03:20] <kkathman> kaye - like I said, can you disable it on your computer prior to install?
[03:21] <kkathman> like a switch on your laptop or desktop?
[03:21] <garfield> kkathman: i dont know it was installing a lot of things like over 1000 downloads it did
[03:21] <garfield> kkathman: so i dont know witch cost the problem
[03:22] <kkathman> garfield:  ahhh have you tried again?  sometimes the order in which it installs gets a little mixed up
[03:22] <kaye> on my laptop after disabling it problem don't lost
[03:22] <garfield> !aptfix
[03:22] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:22] <garfield> kkathman: i did try again i give me the samething
[03:23] <kkathman> another thing you can try is sudo apt-get -f install and see if it can right itself
[03:31] <garfield> kkathman: in screensaver i choose fireworks etc i enable the sound for the fireworks now the sound dont want to stop
[03:32] <kkathman> garfield:  hmm sounds like a bug in the screensaver??  Dunno, I never use screensavers :)
[03:33] <DexterF> I'd liek to compile a src from gutsy/universe in feisty, so I added a deb-src line, updated and ran apt-get -b. still gets the feisty src. how come?
[03:34] <kkathman> DexterF:  you added a gutsy deb-src line?  did you do an apt-get update ?
[03:34] <DexterF> ah, forgot universe. thought that was in by default.
[03:34] <DexterF> lemme check now
[03:34] <kkathman> kinda dangerous too a little :)
[03:35] <DexterF> bah, f!ck it. tinker machine. if it explodes, i still got Etch on it :P
[03:35] <kkathman> DexterF:  Im a bit skeptical about compiling that in feisty
[03:35] <kkathman> more than likely you'll get version mismatches on a LOT of stuff
[03:36] <DexterF> either it works or it breaks. im about to figure :) if you know where to get aircrack-ng 0.9.1 for feisty, lemme know
[03:36] <kkathman> good luck
[03:36] <DexterF> kkathman: nah nah, I only added a deb-src line, not a deb line.
[03:37] <kkathman> DexterF:  well, but consider if you forget and do a dist-upgrade :)
[03:37] <kkathman> or
[03:37] <DexterF> even a dist-upgrade won't build debs from src until I manually do it, right..?
[03:37] <kkathman> if you try to compile, you only have the deb-src (gutsy) for that particular set of pkgs - if they require other standard srcs you'll most definitely get mismatches
[03:38] <kkathman> but you can always try :)
[03:38] <DexterF> apt-get build-dep package figures that. wasn't too much and didn't complain
[03:40] <DexterF> dumdidum.. compiling...
[03:41] <DexterF> bam. aircrack-ng 0.9.1 :)
[03:42] <DexterF> what I don't get tho is how that wifi stick works anyway. it scans wifi networks, displays power beams and so on but I seriously can't tell what kernel module handles it
[03:42] <garfield> kkathman: sudo apt-get -f install i tink it work but im installing vlc to realy see if it work then i'll try adept
[03:42] <kkathman> ok
[03:42] <hudsy> i cant open amarok
[03:42] <hudsy> ...
[03:43] <DexterF> it's a Netgear WG111v2 I didn't get working on Etch, Feisty handles it right away, got a wlan0 and wmaster0, the latter seems to be the stick accordign to the MAC address
[03:43] <DexterF> hudsy: I can't play the piano.
[03:43] <DexterF> (more info)
[03:43] <hudsy> i can....
[03:44] <hudsy> but my amarok dont run
[03:44] <DexterF> what version, what do you do, what happens, what does it say when you run it from a console?
[03:46] <hudsy> it seems it runs but suddenly the icon disappears
[03:46] <DexterF> run from a console
[03:46] <hudsy> nothing..
[03:47] <hudsy> hudsy@xD:~$ amarok
[03:47] <hudsy>
[03:53] <mohamed_> almost talk about increase the memory used
[03:53] <mohamed_> but i don't know where i set this
[03:53] <mohamed_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:54] <garfield> kkathman: the PROBLEM IS FIX MAN TANKS A LOT .IT TOOK ME 4 DAY TO FIND HOW TO FIX IT.and i thoung it was linux that was install bad so i reinstall about 3 times linux :(
[03:54] <kkathman> garfield:  super glad I could help :)
[03:55] <Savak> now you can contribute to kubuntu ;)
[03:55] <garfield> Savak:  lol never
[03:56] <garfield> hahaha
[03:56] <combo__> hi! can someone help with my USB disc (format: FAT) | if i want to copy something on it there is an alert saying that this is 'Read-only file system'... how to change that ? :]
[03:57] <kkathman> combo__:  you might need to make a change to your fstab - i.e. make it RW
[03:58] <garfield> combo__: install ntfs-config then run kdesu ntfs-config then enable them to rite on
[03:58] <combo__> kkathman: and how to change that fstab ?
[03:58] <combo__> garfield: i have installed ntfs-3g already
[03:58] <combo__> garfield: everything is configured well
[03:58] <garfield> kkathman: no fstab it complicates to work
[03:58] <kkathman> combo__:  use the following:  rw,user,noauto
[03:58] <combo__> i have also windows (NTFS) partition and it is write-able so it works fine
[03:59] <combo__> kkathman: ok.. let's see...
[03:59] <garfield> combo__: run kdesu ntfs-config
[03:59] <Savak> think you can just do mount /dev/sdax -o remount,rw
[03:59] <kkathman> Savak:  yep that works too :)
[03:59] <kkathman> I just figured he mounted via fstab or wanted to :)
[03:59] <Savak> hehe yeah thats the long term fix :P
[03:59] <emilsedgh> combo__: please go to SystemSettings->Advanced Tab->Disks and Filesystems, if it could find your disc, you could change its options and give suitable permissions to it
[04:00] <combo__> kkathman: no such command (i wrote 'rw,combo,noauto')
[04:00] <combo__> emilsedgh: will try that now
[04:00] <kkathman> combo__: try what savak said and I'll get you the exact line
[04:00] <NetSKaVeN> hell-o!
[04:01] <garfield> emilsedgh: he did allready but he cannot write to it
[04:01] <NetSKaVeN> anyone can help me with a USB disk mount problem?
[04:01] <kkathman> combo__:  /dev/<yourdevice>        /media/<yourmountpoint>  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[04:02] <Savak> combo_ try: mount /dev/<yourdevice> -o remount,rw
[04:02] <kkathman> NetSKaVeN:  that line applies to you too
[04:02] <kkathman> or do what Savak is saying
[04:03] <NetSKaVeN> kkathman: disk is automounting well but with bad owner
[04:03] <combo__> emilsedgh: hmmm... something very interesting
[04:03] <NetSKaVeN> I need to change automount owner only
[04:03] <combo__> when i opened discs and file systems...
[04:04] <combo__> there is written that this module can't be read
[04:04] <combo__> and there are also written possible reasons
[04:04] <emilsedgh> combo__: go to administrator mode and modify your disk and change permissions/owner
[04:04] <combo__> emilsedgh: i'm in admin mode
[04:04] <combo__> and before connecting my usb disc (this is mp3 exactly) everything looked good
[04:05] <combo__> but now there is nothing to do... only that communicate
[04:05] <garfield> emilsedgh: your confusin him my way is easy and best u dont have to modify notthin or change admin etc
[04:05] <combo__> can't do nothing :/
[04:05] <garfield> combo__: ^
[04:05] <mikko> hm, any ideas why cant i create folders (or anything for that matter) into my /media/hda1/ ?
[04:06] <emilsedgh> so, go on garfield, sorry :)
[04:06] <combo__> possible reasons: during last upgrade this module wasn't updated [ or ]  this modul is out of standard distribution of KDE or it is too old :/
[04:06] <garfield> lol
[04:06] <combo__> only those two reasons ... that text and nothing else here
[04:06] <Savak> and I've lost my microdrive lol
[04:07] <DexterF> lost like "blew" or lost like lost?
[04:07] <combo__> garfield: i also tried your solution
[04:07] <garfield> mikko: is your disk read and rite?
[04:07] <garfield> combo__: what did kdesu ntfs-config say?
[04:08] <Savak> lost like left it in another Thinkpad :(
[04:08] <combo__> but it also doesn't work cuz every of those to option is turned on
[04:08] <combo__> always those two option were turned on
[04:08] <garfield> combo__:  the 2 option?
[04:08] <mikko> garfield: it shows as writeable, so yeah
[04:09] <combo__> garfield: yeap... i have 2 options
[04:09] <garfield> mikko: even if it shows as writeble sometimes u have to install ntfs-config
[04:10] <mikko> oh
[04:11] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[04:11] <juan_> my nvidia drivers arnt the right version for my kernel modules but theyre both installed from official repo, and i cant figure out how to get them to be the same version
[04:11] <combo__> craaaaaap!! :[  |  it seems that my usb driver is crashed :////
[04:11] <combo__> but under winXP it works as well
[04:12] <combo__> so now i'm a bit confused :]
[04:12] <Savak> if it's ntfs, you need to ensure it's unmounted properly before disconnecting, or Linux will get angry
[04:12] <zipper> juan_, in debian, i remember that i used to have the problem because i forgot to install the nvidia kernel package... but that shouldn't be necessary if you follow the (k)ubuntu guide
[04:12] <combo__> Savak: it is FAT
[04:12] <combo__> not ntfs, not fat32... but only FAT
[04:12] <combo__> ( as manual says )
[04:13] <juan_> ive installed both nvidia-kernel and nvida-glx
[04:13] <garfield> combo__: in system settings>disk your hddd have to be mounted with user in your name  groupe your name and mounted permision anybody
[04:13] <Savak> Why not just whack fat32 on it
[04:13] <zipper> juan_, hmm... wierd. Have you installed a new kernel/kernel image since you installed the nvidia-kernel ?
[04:14] <NetSKaVeN> anyone can help me with the KDE automount in Kubuntu?
[04:14] <garfield> combo__: if your hdd is fat u have to choose type VFAT
[04:14] <juan_> its a fresh install, but it was working yesterday so i must of done something wrong
[04:14] <zipper> NetersLandreau_, noone can answer that question. However, if you state your problem, someone might
[04:14] <combo__> but my usb driver cannot be even detected on this list :/
[04:14] <zipper> juan_, apparently. Tried re-installing the drivers?
[04:15] <zipper> or is that what you're doing now?
[04:15] <combo__> if i plug it in ... and go settings->discs... and go into admin mode.. there is only an alert
[04:15] <combo__> nothing else
[04:15] <combo__> garfield: and where should i choose that VFAT type ?
[04:15] <garfield> combo__: hmm that usb got probs
[04:15] <combo__> before it worked well
[04:16] <combo__> idunno what happened :|
[04:16] <juan_> zipper: tgats wgat un doing now
[04:16] <garfield> combo__: in disk filesystem look for your disk and choose it type vfat
[04:16] <combo__> garfield: okay... so it won't work... cuz there is no list (as u're saying)... so it looks somethin' is crashed
[04:17] <mikko> hm, i ran the ntfs-config and enabled write in it, but now i cant see anything in the drive
[04:17] <zipper> juan_, hmm, no idea really. Try un-installing everything you have from nvidia, reboot, and start over
[04:17] <combo__> there only an alert after pluging in my usb driver
[04:17] <mikko> it does show the ammount of files in it from properties though
[04:17] <combo__> and if it's not plugged in.. everything works fine
[04:17] <combo__> so it is all about that stupid usb driver which is probably chrashed
[04:17] <combo__> but under winXP works :/
[04:17] <combo__> veeeeeeeery strange :/
[04:18] <nerv203> Hmmm, can anyone help me? I'm trying to find a java plugin for mozilla in adept, but I can't seem to find anything. I've got the restricted, universe, and default repositories selected already. Am I just searching the wrong terms?
[04:18] <combo__> wait a sec... can have it something in common with libfaad2-0 ? :))
[04:18] <soc> hi
[04:18] <nerv203> Hello soc.
[04:18] <soc> is ther ealready a repo for kde4 alpha 2?
[04:19] <BluesKaj> nerv203, java-common and j2re1.4 should take care of it
[04:19] <nerv203> BluesKaj: Thanks :)
[04:20] <emonkey-f> soc: I think they will be in the feisty-backports as soon as the are avalaible
[04:20] <soc> ok thanks ...
[04:21] <soc> jriddell normally packages them?
[04:21] <mikko> nvm, ran the ntfs-config second time and that apparently did the trick, works now
[04:23] <Riddell> soc: alpha 2 has been out for many months
[04:23] <Riddell> soc: beta 2 isn't out yet, unless I've missed some announcement
[04:25] <soc> soory, i meant beta 2
[04:26] <soc> it was tagged last week as far as i know ...
[04:27] <soc> Riddell: don't know if there will be a formal anouncement ...
[04:27] <Riddell> soc: there will be, probably tomorrow
[04:27] <soc> ah ok
[04:27] <soc> just wanted to know if it's worth to compile it myself ...
[04:28] <NetSKaVeN> anyone know a good doc about KDE automounting in Kubuntu?
[04:31] <jhutchins> KDE mounts automatically?
[04:31] <jhutchins> I would have called that loading, rather than mounting.
[04:31] <jhutchins> Mounting is usually applied to filesystems, not desktop environments.
[04:32] <lusr> j/wi5
[04:39] <Kworth> Anyone using kmymoney ? i need setup help
[04:47] <ubuntu_> test
[05:03] <yeniklasorr> Knetworkmanager is not keeping my wireless network's passwords. I do not want use kwallet. Can you help
[05:03] <zipper> why dont you want to use kwallet?
[05:11] <NetSKaVeN> jhutchins: KDE mounts the hotplug devices
[05:11] <BasilS> what do you think about using more than one dm(for example Gnome and KDE) ? Is it harmful for system?
[05:11] <ddd> hello all
[05:13] <ddd> i have a strange problem. i connect to the net with kppp. everything works fine but konqueror and kontact act like i'm not connected. I'm on kubuntu feisty.
[05:13] <zipper> BasilS, it's "wm" for window manager, and no... If you do it properly, it should be quite safe except for taking up a bit more hdd space
[05:13] <yeniklasorr> zipper : kwallet wants password each login. Is there any option for knetworkmanager remember passwords?
[05:14] <leOn> is there any way i can blacklist modules on grub ?
[05:15] <zipper> yeniklasorr, but if you give that password once every login, no other programs will ask you for it. Kopete, knetworkmanager and so on
[05:17] <yeniklasorr> zipper : I'm closing kwallet automaticly (after 1 minute). Because of privacy.
[05:18] <ddd> any method how i can try to find the problem with konqueror?
[05:19] <emilsedgh> you closet your wallet because of privacy, then you want that it remembers your password
[05:20] <jhutchins> BasilS: Gnome and KDE are more than just desktop managers, the problem is they're starting to handle system chores like managing drive mounts, and there can be conflicts.
[05:20] <jhutchins> NetersLandreau_: Actually, hal/udev/hotplug should handle mounting them.
[05:21] <jhutchins> KDE should just provide a control interface.
[05:23] <emilsedgh> with KDE 4.x, with Solid, that would be possible...
[05:31] <kaminix|benkyou> How is a bash variable formated? I want to make a tagging script later on, but make the files it should use now. Can I write something like this on each line of data? $variablename='data' (ex: $artist='Marilyn Manson' or $album='')?
[05:32] <kaminix|benkyou> Will it be easy to use in a way like: randomtaggingprogram -artist $artist -album $album -title $title -tracknumber $trackno?
[05:33] <yeniklasorr> emilsedgh : I have 10 instant messengers open. Lots of different password. What is point of your question ? My wallet is closing after 1 minute. Do you know how to keep password for knetworkmanager ?
[05:34] <emilsedgh> no
[05:34] <gaehurch> hi
[05:37] <nadrosima> hello
[05:37] <pag> !hi | nadrosima
[05:37] <ubotu> nadrosima: Hi!  But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[05:39] <nadrosima> hey pag
[05:39] <nadrosima> i have a small proplem
[05:39] <pag> nadrosima, be more specific ;)
[05:40] <nadrosima> cant set display depth or scren resulations my other pc
[05:40] <nadrosima> ati graph card
[05:41] <pag> nadrosima, personally I can't help - I know nothing about ati, sorry... hang around for a while, maybe someone else will be able to help you
[05:41] <nadrosima> u want see more externalthree.com/2.png this picture staying 2 week :P
[05:44] <nadrosima> ("Konversation terminated!"). so use ctrl+alt+esc ? this true ?
[05:55] <mille_> hello i am new to kubuntu and have a question on updating
[05:55] <mille_> how often does kubuntu update go get updates?
[05:56] <emilsedgh> mille_: go to adept manager, then click on reload
[05:57] <mille_> does it get auto updates?
[05:57] <emilsedgh> mille_: no, this will make Kubuntu know about updates...
[05:57] <voln> hello i need a prog for synchonisation pocket pc with kubuntu
[05:57] <mille_> in debian i did it manualy
[05:57] <mille_> ok so it is still a manual process
[05:57] <emilsedgh> mille_: its same in Debian, adept is a frontend for APT, its like synaptic
[05:58] <emilsedgh> voln: maybe kmobiltools will help?
[05:58] <arash> !java
[05:58] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[05:58] <mille_> thanks for your help emilsedgh
[05:59] <arash> can somone tell mewhich to install if i want to be able to see java from a website?
[05:59] <emilsedgh> mille_: adept notifier does it automatically, i think..
[06:00] <voln> emilsedgh that for mobile phone
[06:00] <emilsedgh> np voln
[06:01] <voln> emilsedgh it's for pocket pc too?
[06:01] <emilsedgh> voln: i dunno :(
[06:01] <emilsedgh> voln: thats small, try it
[06:01] <voln> emilsedgh ty, i wil try
[06:06] <david__> how do i install the kde theme manager ??????
[06:06] <DUKiSA> anobady knew who to fix eror 21 ?
[06:07] <david__> the kde theme manager where is it in kubuntu????
[06:08] <mille__> david__: System Settings
[06:09] <david__> its not there.
[06:09] <nadrosima> System->Preference>Qt3 Configuration or Qt4 Configuration
[06:10] <garfield> stdin: i install beryl but im not seing the red crystal in the k-menu to run it so it can be in the bar on the desktop.i only have the beryl setting maneger
[06:10] <nadrosima> garf u need to more setting
[06:11] <nadrosima> display on xorg and system settings
[06:11] <nadrosima> /!beryl
[06:11] <nadrosima> ! beryl
[06:11] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:12] <nadrosima> ! beryyl nvidia
[06:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryyl nvidia - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:13] <david__> no its not there. i mean the design manager that can handle .kth files
[06:13] <nadrosima> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BuildYourOwnNvidiaGlx?highlight=%28beryl%29%7C%28nvidia%29 for nvidia
[06:14] <kysiragi__> can someone help me configure beryl so that when i run it all my windows dont become unmovable?
[06:14] <yamato> Hi @ all
[06:15] <mille__> david__: type kcontrol in your console
[06:15] <kysiragi__> ok
[06:15] <yamato> question: how can I configure samba to acces it from WAN?
[06:17] <kysiragi__> hey matthew, you at wsu?
[06:17] <nadrosima> /etc/init.d/samba conf need write share stage to directory + accesmode
[06:17] <yamato> hello?
[06:18] <yamato> okay
[06:18] <es> hello! I wonder if the kernel in kubuntu 7.04 by default is for i386 or i686
[06:18] <nadrosima> godd night all
[06:18] <david__> how di  i install a .kth?
[06:19] <es> it says 2.6.20-16-generic
[06:19] <yamato> so I have toi change the sec-level?
[06:19] <jussi01> es: its generic so either
[06:19] <es> either what... i386?
[06:20] <SlimeyPete> es: both i386 and i686
[06:21] <es> jussi01: SlimeyPete> ok so since
[06:21] <es> I have a p4 no need to recompile for enable the hyperthreading feature and everything it autodetect right?
[06:22] <nadrosima> yep
[06:22] <nadrosima> i386
[06:22] <SlimeyPete> es: no. It will just work straight away.
[06:22] <SlimeyPete> es: assuming you are using a recent version of ubuntu
[06:22] <es> yes 7.04
[06:22] <es> great thanks
[06:22] <SlimeyPete> es: yeah, it will just work then. You don't have to do anything.
[06:23] <nadrosima> dun worry i am install same verrsion and  using it now
[06:23] <david__> how can i get the design manager for kubuntus kde?
[06:24] <david__> its not in the control center of kde
[06:25] <nadrosima> david  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/QTThemeWithoutKDE?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=design+manager&fullsearch=Text
[06:25] <Datradan> join kubuntu
[06:25] <es> to me using gentoo it looks like a dream having the system ready after about an hour :)
[06:26] <anandanbu> Help needed to mount the DVD drive as my Ubuntu7.04 reports when i try mount manually http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36341/
[06:27] <nosrednaekim> last 20 lines of dmesg please
[06:28] <nadrosima> sistem settings > advanced > disk & file system mount any
[06:29] <nadrosima> ineed any desktop on linux for PDA (smart phone)
[06:30] <jussi01> nadrosima: google trolltech
[06:30] <nosrednaekim> nadrosima: you need what?
[06:30] <nadrosima> kde for pda ?
[06:30] <jussi01> and I think access from palm is linux based
[06:31] <nadrosima> i see a mirror mobile linux but now not remember where ?
[06:32] <nadrosima> :=(
[06:32] <garfield>  i on kubuntu 7.04 i instal beryl im not seing the red crystal to activat is im only seing beryl maneger
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> kde is too "heavy" for a PDA. check out the eeePC though
[06:32] <garfield>  i also had install compiz i see no trace of it
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> garfield: that is the icon to activate it.
[06:32] <nosrednaekim> garfield: righ click on it, windowsmanager, beryl
[06:33] <nadrosima> hey garf why u want forced ur computer hardware ?
[06:33] <garfield> theres nothing to right click on im not seing the red crystal to right click on it
[06:33] <nadrosima> u need add ur starting sesion GLX
[06:34] <nosrednaekim> garfield: alt+f2, "beryl-manager"
[06:35] <garfield> nosrednaekim: then what?
[06:35] <nosrednaekim> garfield: now do you see the red crystal in the system tray?
[06:35] <nadrosima> garf what is ur graph card ?
[06:36] <garfield> nosrednaekim: no
[06:36] <nadrosima> nv ati intel sis ?
[06:36] <anandanbu> On inserting the DVD i am getting this error in Ubuntu 7.04 http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3891/mountproblemyf3.png
[06:38] <snowdonkey> Hey.  I already have a "Show Desktop" button on my taskbar but is there a shortcut for minimizing all windows?
[06:39] <nosrednaekim> snowdonkey: isn't that what show desktop does?
[06:39] <snowdonkey> Yes, but I hide my taskbar so if there are keystrokes rather thank clicking that button I'd use it more often.
[06:40] <nadrosima> please check ur monting type (auto ) and acces (not grub only u simple@ubuntu so "simple )
[06:40] <nosrednaekim> garfield: try running beryl-manager from a konsole
[06:41] <nosrednaekim> snowdonkey: there may be... IDK look in the shortcuts config.
[06:41] <nadrosima> i think garf cant do full requr..
[06:42] <garfield> nosrednaekim: i have beryl manager in front my eyes but its the red crystal im not seing in the  system tray
[06:42] <nosrednaekim> garfield: I think you have beryl settings in front of your eyes...
[06:43] <kkathman> garfield:  have you right clicked on the little icon in the tray?
[06:43] <fyrmedic> I just moved my harddrive into another computer and it freezes with the message "mdadm: none of the devices are in conf" or something like that. I assume I need to do a reconfigure or something like that. any suggestions?
[06:43] <tim> have you run "beryl" in a terminal?
[06:43] <tim> no fymedic
[06:43] <snowdonkey> nosrednaikim: I found it, under "Panel" in Global shortcuts.  The default is Alt + Ctrl + D
[06:43] <tim> *not
[06:44] <nosrednaekim> snowdonkey: ok, thanks.. good to know.
[06:44] <kkathman> garfield:  if everything is properly installed, you simply right click the icon in the try, click the select - and choose Beryl
[06:44] <tim> fyrmedic: you will probably find a reinstall easier :) linux isnt as mobile as XP
[06:45] <kkathman> but why go with beryl - its a dead end product?
[06:45] <kkathman> install compiz-fusion instead
[06:45] <toma> hi, does anyone have the /etc/apt/archive entry for kde 3.5.7 for feisty ?
[06:45] <nosrednaekim> kkathman: its what fiesty has by default
[06:45] <garfield> kkathman: i found the problem
[06:45] <kkathman> i understand nosrednaekim  but the fact is - in gutsy it wont be default
[06:45] <kkathman> and its a dead end product :)
[06:45] <fyrmedic> tim: that sucks.
[06:46] <kkathman> and compiz-fusion works extremely well now
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> kkathman: so? the two work almost exactly te same
[06:46] <kkathman> not really
[06:46] <nosrednaekim> kkathman: its harder to get
[06:46] <kkathman> why is it harder to get?
[06:46] <kkathman> there are great ubuntu wikis :)
[06:46] <kkathman> course you cant just "click a button"
[06:46] <kkathman> hehe
[06:46] <garfield> kkathman: in adept it was telling me its install but when i run beryl manerger in the console it say says it wasnt install.pff damn ADEPT MANEGER
[06:47] <kkathman> lol
[06:47] <garfield> !OHMY | garfield
[06:47] <tim> fyrmedic: yeah. its probably possible to reconfigure everything, I am assuming your getting a kernel panic during boot?
[06:47] <tim> because if your getting to a terminal you can use a script to reconfig everything
[06:47] <kkathman> garfield:  psst heres a hint - learn the cli commands then you wont have as much ambiguity :)
[06:48] <garfield> kkathman:  what is the cli command?
[06:48] <kkathman> garfield:  command line interface - terminal commands rather than just gui :)
[06:49] <fyrmedic> tim: yeah. I have had major failures of computers in the last week. 2 power supplies, at least one hd, 1 board and I am left with a laptop and a legacy 486 machine unless I can restore the other with spare parts. Loads of fun
[06:49] <garfield> gui??? kkathman
[06:49] <kkathman> garfield:  yes your point and click interface (i.e. KDE or Gnome)
[06:49] <nosrednaekim> garfield: graphical user interface
[06:50] <fyrmedic> tim: I suppose the kubuntu reinstall isn;t that bad. unfortunately my wife and kids are screaming for at least one windows machine in the house.
[06:50] <tim> fyrmedic: if you cant get to a terminal, although it would be technicaly possible to use a bootcd to do some repair work, I think figuring out all the things that were broke would take an eternity
[06:50] <kkathman> fym hehe I have that problem myself :)
[06:50] <kkathman> oops fyrmedic I mean
[06:52] <garfield> kkathman:  nosrednaekim ??? im confuse explain like u would to a child :(
[06:52] <fyrmedic> kkathman; I think I had a lightning storm come through while I was out of town.
[06:52] <nosrednaekim> garfield: explain about what?
[06:52] <kkathman> garfield:  hmm well, a GUI - is what you use when you point and click with your mouse on things
[06:53] <garfield> kkathman: k
[06:53] <mille__> gui is windows
[06:53] <mille__> gui kde
[06:53] <mille__> gui gnome
[06:53] <garfield> nosrednaekim: i right click on beryl and choose what?
[06:53] <kkathman> mille__:  well kind of yes - windows is an Operating System that has a GUI interface
[06:54] <kkathman> KDE is a GUI (or window manager)
[06:54] <mille__> I know i was just making it simple
[06:54] <kkathman> right
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> garfield: right click on beryl icon -> selectwindow manager->beryl
[06:54] <kkathman> nosrednaekim:  told him to do that earlier (not sure he did ) :)
[06:54] <garfield> nosrednaekim: and?
[06:54] <garfield> nosrednaekim: wheres the cube?
[06:54] <nosrednaekim> garfield: that will start beryl
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> garfield: try ctrl+alt+right arrow
[06:55] <garfield> nosrednaekim: nothing happen
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> garfield: ok.... what type of video card do you have?
[06:55] <garfield> nosrednaekim:  WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW WOOW
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> I figure that did something..
[06:56] <nosrednaekim> :)
[06:56] <garfield> nosrednaekim: OK how to i see the hole cube?
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> ctrl+alt+ left mouse click and drag mouse
[06:57] <braders> Hey can anyone help me with getting my wireless to work please?
[06:57] <angelo> #ubuntu-it
[06:57] <nosrednaekim> braders: sure... what chipset?
[06:58] <braders> chipset for?
[06:58] <garfield> nosrednaekim: that is so freekin SWEET
[06:58] <garfield> !ohmy | garfield
[06:59] <nosrednaekim> braders: the wireless chipset. intel? atheros? broadcom?
[07:00] <braders> im getting the error " The requested wireless network requires security capabilities unsupported by your hardware
[07:00] <nosrednaekim> braders: again.... what is your chipset.
[07:01] <nosrednaekim> braders: it should show in "lspci"
[07:01] <braders> im in windows at the moment because cant get net connection on ubunto
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> ah.. ok. well, I need to kno the chipset... look around i the windows hardware config.
[07:02] <braders> i got a intel pentium D processor, syslink router and using a netgear usb dongle
[07:02] <braders> what chipset my cpu?
[07:02] <nosrednaekim> braders: ok... what model
[07:02] <braders> for? sorry if i sound silly
[07:03] <nosrednaekim> no... your wireless. give me the model # of the netgear dongle.
[07:04] <braders> cool it is Netgear WG111v2 54Mbps wireless USB 2.0 Adapater
[07:05] <nosrednaekim> ok.. thanks... BRB
[07:05] <braders> ok thankyou
[07:08] <nadrosima> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/#N
[07:08] <nadrosima> bra click pls ask first google
[07:09] <nosrednaekim> braders: hmm thats odd.... it says your wireless dongle should be automatically and fully supported by fiesty
[07:10] <braders> when i click the little wirless thing in ubuntu it says my wireless router name there
[07:10] <nosrednaekim> what type of encryption are you using?
[07:10] <braders> but when i click it comes up with the error i said earlier
[07:11] <braders> well i was using WAP2 personal
[07:11] <braders> but changed it to WEP 128bit hrex
[07:11] <ubuntu> hi therei need some help installing ubuntu
[07:11] <Mr_Sonoma> ubuntu, what kind of help do you need?
[07:12] <braders> is that correct the WEP 128 bit Hex digital security?
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> braders: and WEP doesn't work either?
[07:12] <ubuntu> well i'm up to the partition bit and i need to create a partition
[07:12] <nosrednaekim> braders: try a smaller WEP key.. say, 64bit
[07:12] <nadrosima> make handly
[07:13] <Mr_Sonoma> ubuntu, is this your first ubuntu install?
[07:13] <ubuntu> yes that is correct
[07:13] <noesis> I have a pretty OLD Fujitso hard Drive that worked on a 2.4 kernel on Slackware. However, Feisty on the 2.6.2 kernel does not seem to detect the hard drive, but gives no error message either. I have checked demsg and it just simply isn't there... My one hard disk and two optical disks do get detected however. How should I go about it?
[07:14] <Mr_Sonoma> ubuntu, are you dual booting with windows or installing completely?
[07:14] <braders> ok and i should just be able to click the wireless icon and then click my routers name on the drop down menu then the key entry bit will come up?
[07:14] <ubuntu> dual booting with windows
[07:14] <nosrednaekim> braders: yeah.
[07:15] <braders> ok brill i will try a 64 bit wep security ;-) thanks for your help
[07:16] <Mr_Sonoma> ok if i was you for my first install i would let the installer automatically set the partitions, just select "use the largest free space" and let it run
[07:16] <noesis> does the livecd use a different kernel from the default kernel after installation on Kubuntu.?. I am sure my hard-disk got detected on the live cd
[07:16] <ubuntu> yeah but my largest has windows on it
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> braders: k
[07:17] <nosrednaekim> noesis: nope.. same kernel
[07:17] <mahdi> windows won't be on free space, so that can't overwrite anything
[07:17] <Mr_Sonoma> it can partition the "free" space that doesnt have info on it, basically resize the windows partition to allow for the ubuntu partitions
[07:18] <ubuntu> i got 2 partitions two  30 gb  so it will use them?
[07:18] <nadrosima> ubuntu can u see ur old hardisk when u select partition with handly ?
[07:18] <noesis> nosrednaekim: It should be a kernel issue if the drive isnt listed in dmesg?
[07:18] <nosrednaekim> noesis: that is correct
[07:19] <noesis> nosrednaekim: kubuntu is going to hate me if I install 2.4 kernel?
[07:20] <nosrednaekim> noesis: I think that would be rather hard anyway ;)
[07:20] <ubuntu> i really hope it don't resize any of my other partitions
[07:20] <noesis> nosrednaekim: any way one can get legacy stuff from 2.4 kernel compiled as an extra module on the 2.6 ?
[07:20] <nadrosima> if u cant see ur old disk in to bios menu /all linux reading bios setting automa..
[07:21] <nosrednaekim> noesis: thats probably virutally impossible.
[07:22] <noesis> nosrednaekim: the drive isn't that important to me.. i can probably replace it for $2, but i need the data... i'll just boot DSL or something and mount and get the stuff off and buy a new disk.. i think that is going to be the most painless option.
[07:22] <ubuntu> it's all on the one hard drive with 5 partitions and 30gb just sitting there
[07:22] <noesis> thanks for your input nosrednaekim  :-)
[07:22] <garfield> nosrednaekim: tu conai dautre racourci pour beryl?
[07:22] <nosrednaekim> ya...
[07:23] <Iacobus> hello
[07:23] <nosrednaekim> garfield: no hablo espanol o purtugues
[07:23] <nosrednaekim> hello
[07:24] <garfield> nosrednaekim: lol sory lol i got cary away with beryl i forgot to speek english here
[07:24] <nosrednaekim> :)
[07:24] <garfield> nosrednaekim: u know anymore shortcuts for beryl?how to ben the pages?
[07:25] <nosrednaekim> garfield: look in beryl settings all the shortcuts and extra plugins are listed there.
[07:25] <garfield> nosrednaekim: u know anything how to install drivers for webcam.i want to install my webcam to show my friend for them to leave xp for linux
[07:25] <garfield> :)
[07:26] <nosrednaekim> garfield: lol... umm no I don't
[07:26] <nosrednaekim> !webcam | garfield this might help though
[07:26] <ubotu> garfield this might help though: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[07:30] <garfield> nosrednaekim: beryl sett theres nothing next to the shortcuts
[07:30] <nosrednaekim> garfield: add shortcuts for those functions then..
[07:31] <Jazzman> No estoy...regreso luego
[07:31] <Iacobus> #kde
[07:31] <Jazzman> Ya volv
[07:33] <nadrosima> hey garf pls say me ur graph card model ==?
[07:35] <voln> is anyone knows about how can i improve spam protection in kmail
[07:35] <nadrosima> if u have nv need to instal aiglx
[07:36] <nadrosima> voln this is a mail options not kmail options
[07:36] <voln> i use bogofilter and crm114 but... all spam in my inbox
[07:37] <Mr_Sonoma> do you have bogofilter and crm set to put the spam in the trash?
[07:37] <Iacobus> alguien sabe como me puedo conectar al servidor de terra?
[07:37] <voln> Mr_Sonoma yes, according wizard setup
[07:38] <Mr_Sonoma> lol ok well i was trying to think of something "simple" that could have been over looked
[07:38] <Mr_Sonoma> LOL
[07:38] <voln> Mr_Sonoma sorry in trash
[07:38] <hcbox> hello ttlm : )
[07:38] <hcbox> bon aprs deux jours, j'me bat toujours avec fglrx :D
[07:39] <hcbox> oops wrong channel :D
[07:39] <nadrosima> u have ati card ur jobs very very hard
[07:39] <nadrosima> ahuahu
[07:39] <hcbox> yeah
[07:39] <hcbox> and its not working
[07:39] <hcbox> xD
[07:39] <hcbox> i just want to remove properly the fglrx driver & reinstall it to use
[07:40] <nadrosima> meto and change pc use now amd and nv
[07:40] <hcbox> I want to change my pc, but gimme the money baby :D
[07:40] <nadrosima> lol
[07:41] <nadrosima> dpkg -l beryl beryl-core beryl-manager beryl-plugins beryl-plugins-data beryl-settings beryl-settings-bindings emerald emerald-themes libberyldecoration0 libberylsettings0 libemeraldengine0  linux-restricted-modules-common restricted-manager ubuntu-restricted-extras xorg-driver-fglrx xserver-xgl xserver-xorg-video-ati
[07:41] <hcbox> outch :) ?
[07:42] <nadrosima> remove it but ur desktop cannot open nex time
[07:42] <hcbox> i dont use beryl
[07:42] <nadrosima> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:43] <nadrosima> re install xorg preff.
[07:43] <hcbox> hum will see,
[07:43] <nadrosima> if u dont have any driver
[07:43] <nadrosima> use mesa ok ?
[07:45] <hcbox> hum
[07:47] <hcbox> my Xorg log give me the reason not the same kernel...
[07:48] <SRN9> hey all quick question how would I go about fixing a marginal error in my Lexmark printer? I am not seeing anyhting in my printer setup here to fix this:(
[07:52] <hcbox> (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:2:0:1) found < its 2:0:0 how can i change it ?
[07:53] <nadrosima> lolll
[07:53] <hcbox> xD
[07:53] <hcbox> (II) fglrx(0): [drm]  created "fglrx" driver at busid "PCI:2:0:0
[07:53] <nadrosima> listen first go bios change adapter mode
[07:53] <hcbox> (WW) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version does *not* match driver.
[07:53] <nadrosima> pc to pc expres
[07:53] <hcbox> Its AGP
[07:53] <hcbox> no pci :D
[07:54] <draik> !podcast
[07:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about podcast - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:54] <draik> How do I download podcasts?
[07:54] <nadrosima> not download
[07:54] <draik> ...?
[07:55] <nadrosima> need to add a adress
[07:55] <draik> not following you. I want to get the KROQ Kevin & Bean podcasts
[07:57] <Fyodor> buenos dias
[07:58] <elias_> hi I trying to patch kernel 2.6.16 with mipl2.0.2
[07:58] <Mr_Sonoma> buenos dias, no habla espanol. habla ingles
[07:58] <elias_> but I cannot find some of some option in xconfig
[08:01] <drewcipher_> !sp
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <drewcipher_> !esp
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esp - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:02] <drewcipher_> !es
[08:02] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:05] <jetsaredim> anyone know what's up with beta2?
[08:05] <jetsaredim> was supposed to be released on 8/30
[08:08] <anonimo> hey
[08:08] <anonimo> someone know how to update adept ?
[08:09] <anonimo> like apt-get update
[08:09] <ks3> probably apt-get upgrade
[08:13] <Jucato> anonimo: in Adept Manager, click on Fetch Upates in the toolbar
[08:15] <draik> nadrosima: How do I get podcasts?
[08:17] <scienceboy> is there a way to share music through amarok?
[08:18] <jhutt> Hi Ya'll I'm a mega noob and I need help installing Kubuntu on my laptop.  I have the Kubuntu ISO and a network setup I need to install it on my laptop that does not have a CD-Rom or Floppy drive, it does however have PXE boot.  I'm using Windows XP, any help or a full step by step guide would be great.
[08:18] <nadrosima> draik for listen ?
[08:18] <draik> yes
[08:19] <nadrosima> need  be a member a bodcast sites
[08:20] <nosrednaekim> !network install
[08:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about network install - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:20] <jhutt> thanks
[08:20] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: I have never done one.... what I would reccomend is do a WUbi install
[08:21] <toopy> hello, how to use metacity by default in kubuntu?
[08:21] <scienceboy> !amarok
[08:21] <nosrednaekim> toopy: why in the WORLD would you want to do that>
[08:21] <ubotu> Amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.5 for Edgy and packages are  available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[08:21] <jhutt> WUbi install?
[08:22] <toopy> nosrednaekim, because I like Metacity themes better?
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: yeah... you install from within XP.
[08:22] <nosrednaekim> toopy: Metacity is only going to chane the titlebar..
[08:22] <nadrosima> lspci and see ur network card later eth(x) up / ifconfig eth (x) 192....2 10. 2 gw 192.  10 .....2
[08:23] <jetsaredim> anyone know what's up with kde4 beta2?
[08:23] <nosrednaekim> jetsaredim: whats up with it?
[08:23] <nosrednaekim> jetsaredim: should be released real soon
[08:23] <jhutt> But how would that get it on my laptop, I think I forgot to mention my laptop does not have an operating system. Windows XP is on my desktop
[08:23] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: ah...
[08:23] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: that is a problem ;)
[08:23] <jetsaredim> nosrednaekim: ok - that's basically what I was wondering
[08:23] <alejandro_> someone have used pando in linux?
[08:24] <jetsaredim> I know the schedule on kde.org says 8/30
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> jetsaredim: I think it has been taggen, so the devs are probably working on releaseing it within a couple of days
[08:24] <alejandro_> why when the var is set
[08:24] <Jucato> tag != release
[08:24] <nosrednaekim> jetsaredim: thats when the "tagged" it. then the distros have to build packages
[08:24] <alejandro_> i cant launch pando whith an desktop icon?
[08:24] <jetsaredim> ok - so its kinda on its way?
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> jetsaredim: yep:)
[08:25] <jhutt> I have read countless forums and HOWTO pages but nothing seems to work I have tried both windows and linux, I just want my lappy to life :'(
[08:25] <Kenichi_nl> trigger
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: can this laptop boot from USB/
[08:25] <toopy> does anyone know how to make metacity load by default in kubuntu? I know theres a way
[08:25] <nadrosima> way maybe use a flash disk for linux later use this flash disk with ur laptop
[08:25] <nosrednaekim> toopy: modify the startkde script in /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop
[08:25] <Kenichi_nl> how do i download files from irc
[08:25] <nadrosima> maybe ....
[08:25] <jhutt> nosrednaekim: No it can't
[08:26] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: hmm ok. google for ubuntu net-install I guess.
[08:26] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: OR.. do you have another laptop around?
[08:26] <jhutt> Yeah its a Dell 9400 and I ain't opening that
[08:27] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: lol... I was thinking spapping HD's...
[08:27] <nosrednaekim> jhutt: can't harm anything..
[08:27] <Kenichi_nl> Can some one help if i typ trigger or dir or ls there,s nothing happing
[08:27] <alejandro_> what im program does anyone like
[08:27] <alejandro_> gaim or kopete?
[08:27] <nosrednaekim> Kenichi_nl: try running "bash"
[08:28] <jhutt> the dell uses SATA anyways the one im trying to get working is a compaq n410c
[08:28] <Kenichi_nl> bash
[08:28] <toopy> what am I supposed to modify in /usr/share/xsessions/kde.desktop......I don't see anything related to window managers
[08:28] <kkathman> alejandro:  why not try them both and see which one you like ?
[08:28] <jetsaredim> nosrednaekim: do you know if beta2 is actually being built or if its still too early for that even?
[08:28] <Kenichi_nl> "bash"
[08:28] <Braders> Hey can anyone help my install beryl?
[08:28] <multiservers> hey can someone help me how is called the program that you can play windows .exe files on linux wijnme or something someone nows?
[08:29] <_2> Kenichi_nl /dcc send nickname /path/to/file.name  /dcc get nickname
[08:29] <kkathman> Braders:  check out the wiki there are good how tos there :)
[08:29] <nosrednaekim> jetsaredim: actually i'm not sure... check up on www.kde.org and see if they have released tar-balls yet
[08:29] <oxyman> multiservers: you mean wine?
[08:29] <multiservers> yeh
[08:29] <multiservers> where can i download that?
[08:30] <Kenichi_nl> the wiki from beryl is dead but installing beryl is easy and i got got slatehorn glass theme
[08:30] <kkathman> Kenichi_nl:  there are still some there tho
[08:30] <_2> Kenichi_nl if that's not what you want...  /exec wget URL
[08:30] <kkathman> Kenichi_nl:  especially in the ubuntu tutorials areas
[08:30] <oxyman> multiservers: it should be in the repositories. so you can download it through the package managment
[08:30] <nadrosima> omg all users wat to forced pc lol why want to install beryl ?
[08:30] <Kenichi_nl> no i need to download a file from irc
[08:30] <multiservers> oke il have a look
[08:30] <multiservers> Adept mangaer right?
[08:30] <kkathman> I have compiz-fusion here and it was easy to do
[08:31] <Brader1> Hey can anyone help me install beryl?
[08:31] <oxyman> multiservers: yes
[08:31] <kkathman> Brader1:  what card do you have - video wise?
[08:31] <_2> Kenichi_nl like i said  dcc   or wget
[08:31] <multiservers> oke
[08:31] <scienceboy> how do i switch the clock in the 'taskbar' from a 24 hour clock to a twelve hour AM PM clock?
[08:31] <Brader1> ATI Radeon X200 i think
[08:31] <Brader1> 128mb
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> Brader1: help for things like that is in #ubuntu-effects
[08:32] <Brader1> oh ok thanks also thanks for your help earlier nosrednaekim all sorted now ;-)
[08:32] <nadrosima> scienceboy click pls
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> Brader1: you the wifi guy?
[08:32] <Brader1> only thing i keep lossing my internet connection
[08:32] <Brader1> yea ;-)
[08:32] <nosrednaekim> Brader1: well... move closer to the router.
[08:33] <Kenichi_nl> Beryl installing is easy but is compiz fusion the merge between beryl and compiz
[08:33] <kkathman> Brader1:  check out google and put in beryl ubuntu ATI  and you'll get a hit there
[08:33] <Brader1> getting a 70% connection
[08:33] <scienceboy> nadrosima: not registered so can't :P
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> Brader1: ah...
[08:33] <nosrednaekim> Brader1: how often does it cut you off?
[08:34] <scienceboy> how do i switch the clock in the 'taskbar' from a 24 hour clock to a twelve hour AM PM clock?
[08:34] <kkathman> scienceboy:  right click on the clock and choose configure
[08:34] <nadrosima> right click pls
[08:34] <Kenichi_nl> i wanna have a dock bar but there are no good ones
[08:35] <toopy> kenichi, try avant window navigator
[08:35] <NickPresta> kkathman, right click on clock > Date and Time Format > Time & Dates > in the Time Format, put something like 'pH:MM:SS'
[08:35] <kkathman> Kenichi_nl:  ksmoothdock is ok - but I use KDE to be a dock bar
[08:35] <kkathman> NickPresta:  ahh yeah -true
[08:35] <kkathman> lol
[08:36] <Kenichi_nl> i wanna leave the kde bar at the bottom above a dock would be nice
[08:36] <kkathman> Kenichi_nl:  also AWN is pretty decent too
[08:37] <kkathman> I dont particularly care for it myself, but you might
[08:37] <kkathman> ksmoothdock I think it the one that has the parabolic thing
[08:38] <Kenichi_nl> http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3022/schermafdruk13ss4.jpg
[08:38] <Kenichi_nl> i did had one in the past what i could load in karamba
[08:38] <Chousuke> That's KDE4?
[08:39] <Kenichi_nl> no its kde 3.57
[08:39] <Chousuke> hmm
[08:39] <Kenichi_nl> i just got the new crystal theme and glass beryl
[08:39] <BrightEyes`> how can i update ekiga using repositories...im on kubuntu7.04 and in adept it cant find the latest ekiga
[08:40] <Kenichi_nl> http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/6834/schermafdruk12ve5.jpg
[08:40] <NickPresta> BrightEyes`, not every package in the repos are the latest package available. Most aren't. Do you absolutely need the latest version?
[08:40] <BrightEyes`> NickPresta: yes.i just want to try it with voipdiscount
[08:40] <Kenichi_nl> those karamba gadgets i need do add them in ever session because if beryl started they are going
[08:41] <Kenichi_nl> are here dutch users?
[08:41] <nosrednaekim> !de
[08:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:42] <toopy> does anyone know how to make metacity load in kubuntu when it starts up? I know theres a way
[08:43] <brmassa> Guys, im planning to install windows on my first partition. where can i find a good tutorial to reinstall grub after it?
[08:43] <Kenichi_nl> no dont install windows
[08:43] <brmassa> hehehe
[08:43] <nadrosima> never install grub on the windows partition
[08:43] <brmassa> i need. im programmer and i need to test on many env
[08:44] <nadrosima> select other disk
[08:44] <Kenichi_nl> it will take the boot loader away if you install windows
[08:44] <nosrednaekim> brmassa: virtualization?
[08:45] <brmassa> nadrosima: well... kubuntu is on my hda2 => the second partition. windows will be on my hda1, the first one
[08:45] <Kenichi_nl> is it windows vista?
[08:45] <nosrednaekim> brmassa: thats not a problem... you can reinstall grub from a liveCD
[08:45] <brmassa> nosrednaekim: my CPU does not support it.
[08:45] <brmassa> its a Athlon XP 2000. somewhat old
[08:45] <brmassa> no! win XP
[08:45] <brmassa> how?
[08:46] <nosrednaekim> brmassa: yeah.. thats a bit old for virtualization.
[08:46] <oxyman> brmassa: how about the wiki pages? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:46] <brmassa> ;)
[08:46] <BrightEyes`> how can i update ekiga using repositories...im on kubuntu7.04 and in adept it cant find the latest ekiga
[08:47] <Kenichi_nl> Do you guys get people to use kubuntu?
[08:48] <nosrednaekim> Kenichi_nl: sometimes.
[08:48] <BluesKaj> We help ppl who have questions about kubuntu as well :)
[08:49] <Kenichi_nl> i live in the netherlands but most of the people dont wanna try it
[08:50] <brmassa> bad for them! hehe
[08:51] <venik> sound system issues: every time I open a browser, I lose the sound (from Amarok)
[08:51] <Kenichi_nl> haha indeed in windows my pc will not run at full power but in linux it does i just got a low budget pc
[08:51] <brmassa> its the same problem every company in the world have. people dont buy their products... it involves marking, quality of the product, and time!
[08:51] <venik> Is this the "Auto-suspend if idle after XX second" deal?
[08:52] <venik> or a setting in Amarok?
[08:52] <brmassa> probably
[08:52] <Kenichi_nl> I got one strange thing my webcam ist show in kopete only my tv card
[08:52] <nosrednaekim> venik: konqueror or firefox?
[08:52] <venik> Kon., FireFox or Opera
[08:53] <brmassa> sometimes, kubuntu thinks your sound card is digital when it is not. maybe you shuold check it too
[08:53] <venik> in fact, opening ANY program kills the sound
[08:53] <brmassa> jezz! hehe
[08:53] <logixoul> Guys, I need this package to use Compiz 0.5.2 in KDE, right? http://ftp.cica.es/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/universe/libc/libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig/
[08:53] <logixoul> (it's not in any repository I can find)
[08:53] <brmassa> which kubuntu version?
[08:53] <logixoul> Feisty
[08:54] <venik> 7.04
[08:54] <brmassa> hmmm use beryl then
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> venik: turn off arts
[08:54] <logixoul> brmassa: hmm, why? beryl is old
[08:54] <venik> what is ARTS?  I never turned it on
[08:54] <Kenichi_nl> will installing kde 4 be easy in the nest release
[08:54] <brmassa> logixoul: its basicly the same project
[08:54] <nosrednaekim> logixoul: I don;t think you NEED that package
[08:54] <dasy2k1> when i use beryl i get no window decorations, really anoying
[08:54] <brmassa> forked and now reunited
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> venik: system settings->sound and multimedia->hardware
[08:55] <nosrednaekim> dasy2k1: you using emerald?
[08:55] <dasy2k1> think so as i dont get the red gem to check
[08:55] <venik> I see no ARTS in there
[08:55] <brmassa> logixoul: compiz and beryl have basicly the same code.
[08:56] <venik> I was playing Sirius radio when I noticed it
[08:56] <brmassa> but its not an answer if you really want to install compiz right?! :P
[08:57] <logixoul> brmassa: no, the latest version of Compiz (after the union with beryl), is a lot improved over what used to be Beryl
[08:57] <logixoul> which is why I want Compiz ;)
[08:57] <Kenichi_nl> its a shame the next release wont have kde4 default
[08:57] <brmassa> i see...
[08:57] <mahdi> how would i know if i need to use nvidia-glx-new or not?
[08:57] <scienceboy> how do i switch the clock in the 'taskbar' from a 24 hour clock to a twelve hour AM PM clock?
[08:57] <nosrednaekim> dasy2k1: run "beryl-manager"
[08:58] <nosrednaekim> venik: when you go there... switch audio driver to alsa.
[08:58] <brmassa> make sense. well... installing it from source or some external rep will need further information
[08:58] <mahdi> scienceboy: right click it, select date and time format, 'time and dates' tab, then change the time format to am/pm
[08:58] <dasy2k1> @Kenichi_nl KDE4 looks ok so far but im not sure about dolphin
[08:58] <scienceboy> mahdi: thanks!
[08:58] <venik> I think ALSA is running, because when I shut down, I see that it is turned off explicitly
[08:59] <underdog5004> I want a script of mine to run down a list of filenames and do a "find" on each one...which command would I use for that?
[08:59] <NickPresta> mahdi, which graphics card do you have?
[08:59] <Kenichi_nl> in kde3 i rather use Veroveraar
[08:59] <oxyman> on gutsy dolphin is running very fine :-)
[08:59] <logixoul> nosrednaekim: well, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion says compiz-kde is needed to get window decorations in KDE. And compiz-kde depends on libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig.
[08:59] <mahdi> NickPresta: xfx nvidia geforce 8600gt
[08:59] <BrightEyes`> whats the Ekiga program for kubuntu?
[08:59] <brmassa> but... if you want to risk using brand new stuff, you might want to test Gutsy, which have almost the newset compiz
[08:59] <logixoul> nosrednaekim: well, I guess I'll just download this libcompizconfig-backend-kconfig and see :) thanks
[08:59] <logixoul> brmassa: thanks too
[09:00] <Kenichi_nl> i finaly can install programs trough the console
[09:01] <dasy2k1> what is dolphin like?
[09:01] <nosrednaekim> venik: change the sound driver to alsa.
[09:02] <venik> I did, and since then it is trying to restart the sound system... it seems to be doing it over and over again
[09:02] <NickPresta> mahdi, check out this: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html I don't think the 8600 is supported...
[09:02] <dasy2k1> does it have that blasted breadcrum trail like gnomes default
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> dasy2k1: its like nautilus... dumbed down
[09:02] <nosrednaekim> dasy2k1: the kde4 version is good though
[09:02] <dasy2k1> ARRRGH i hate nautilus
[09:02] <dasy2k1> ok
[09:02] <mahdi> NickPresta: thanks
[09:03] <NickPresta> mahdi, you might have to use the open source drivers instead of the proprietary binary
[09:03] <venik> I can't tell whether it is busted, or just take forever?
[09:03] <mahdi> NickPresta: i get what you mean, i just don't know how to go about it
[09:04] <NickPresta> mahdi, check out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3277236
[09:04] <scienceboy> is beryl-manager the only thing that i need to get for beryl?
[09:04] <nosrednaekim> venik: :sounds" like its busted ;)
[09:04] <venik> ok-- I'll kill it and restart
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> mahdi: you need the 100 series driver
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> scienceboy: no... you need beryl too
[09:05] <nosrednaekim> !beryl
[09:05] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:05] <mahdi> nosrednaekim: i'll check that out in a second, do you have a handy-dandy link for me to look at?
[09:06] <paines> hi
[09:07] <NickPresta> mahdi, nosrednaekim is correct. the 100 series drivers support the 8600. http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/README/appendix-a.html
[09:07] <scienceboy> oh ... lol, ok. thanks nosrednaekim!
[09:07] <nosrednaekim> hi paines..
[09:08] <paines> i want to use schillys cdrecord with k3b instead of growisofs, cause 20 % of my burns fail. any chance to configure k3b that it uses cdrecord for dvd burning. i want to see if cdrecord works better
[09:09] <nosrednaekim> paines: yes... i think there is way...
[09:09] <xto> algum que fale portugus
[09:09] <xto> ?
[09:10] <paines> nosrednaekim, that would be great. could you give me a hint
[09:10] <nosrednaekim> 'fraid not... google it. But do think it is possible
[09:11] <paines> nosrednaekim, okay. never mind . thank you anyway
[09:11] <andersin> !pt
[09:11] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:14] <venik> well, switching to ALSA made no difference-- almost anything I do shuts down the sound
[09:14] <venik> Konqueror, Opera, Firefox...
[09:17] <paines> bye
[09:18] <venik> I must be the only one having this problem... ;-(
[09:18] <dasy2k1> which repo is opera in?
[09:18] <nosrednaekim> venik: file a bug.
[09:18] <venik> I get is as a deb package from the Opera site
[09:18] <nosrednaekim> venik: take a look at demsg too.
[09:19] <venik> what is demsg?
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> dmesg is a list of errors and output generated by the kernel. just run "dmesg" in a konsole
[09:23] <venik> The way around this problem is to disable the KDE sound system taking over from any program that might need the sound card
[09:23] <venik> Somehow they solved this in XP
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> venik: can you do that?
[09:23] <venik> I did, and it fixed the program
[09:23] <venik> problem
[09:24] <hayami> hi anyone knows how to use c++? i had an error compiling
[09:24] <xto> !pt
[09:24] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[09:24] <Repsa_Jih> i know hot to use C++
[09:24] <hayami> yeah?
[09:24] <Repsa_Jih> what was the error message given?
[09:24] <hayami> can you help me?
[09:24] <hayami> check
[09:24] <venik> but the default was to Auto-suspend if idle after 60 second
[09:24] <hayami> //Primer programa Hola Mundo - Hola linda
[09:24] <hayami> #include <iostream>
[09:24] <hayami> int main() {
[09:24] <hayami>   std::cout << "Hola linda\n";
[09:24] <hayami>   return 0; //indica que la funcion main a terminado satisfactoriamente.
[09:24] <hayami> }
[09:24] <hayami> that's not it
[09:25] <nosrednaekim> !paste
[09:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:25] <hayami> it says
[09:25] <hayami> error main must return 'int'
[09:25] <hayami> what does that error means?
[09:25] <BrightEyes`> anyone to help on getting the latest Ekiga (kubuntu 7.04?
[09:25] <Repsa_Jih> that's very strange
[09:25] <sayers> is there a tool to mount an .iso in KDE?
[09:26] <Repsa_Jih> which compiler are you using?
[09:26] <hayami> anjuta
[09:26] <BrightEyes`> hayami: the open source compiler gcc wants main always return an int... before closing main add return 0;
[09:26] <hayami> =o so what i have to do?
[09:26] <Repsa_Jih> there is a return 0...
[09:26] <nosrednaekim> sayers: kwikdisk
[09:27] <hayami> check friends
[09:27] <hayami> i will put my code on paste bin
[09:27] <Repsa_Jih> kk
[09:27] <hayami> !pastebin
[09:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:28] <emilsedgh> sayers: there is a servicemenu, in kde-apps i think
[09:28] <nadrosima> hello again
[09:29] <hayami> i'm new here, and i check a guide howto install c++ well here is g++ right? the compiler
[09:29] <nadrosima> enjoy nvidia + amd 64 bit
[09:29] <sayers> emilsedgh: and where is that? I dont see anything there
[09:29] <emilsedgh> sayers: or...kde look?
[09:30] <BrightEyes`> anyone to test ekiga with?
[09:30] <blix> hi folks
[09:30] <venik> can anyone help me with the settings of Audacity?
[09:30] <blix> is there an official list of irc channels somewhere?
[09:31] <hayami> repsa_jih
[09:31] <emilsedgh> blix: what?
[09:31] <hayami> check friend
[09:31] <hayami> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36359/
[09:31] <Repsa_Jih> yes?
[09:31] <venik> When I try to record, I get an error telling me to check the sound device and sampling rate
[09:31] <hayami> there's my program code
[09:32] <Repsa_Jih> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/36360/
[09:32] <blix> emil: like I said, is there a directory somewhere on the web that lists irc channels?
[09:32] <Repsa_Jih> you used a void for main
[09:32] <Repsa_Jih> g++ only accepts int
[09:32] <hayami> =o?
[09:32] <hayami> how can i change that?
[09:32] <Repsa_Jih> blix: there is none
[09:32] <hayami> i have to change a void?
[09:32] <emilsedgh> blix: clients could retrieve the list of channels frfom a server :)
[09:33] <Repsa_Jih> you can get all channels on a server, tough, using /list
[09:33] <emilsedgh> s/frfom/from
[09:33] <Repsa_Jih> hayami: check my correction
[09:34] <hayami> wow
[09:34] <hayami> i put
[09:34] <hayami> int main (int)
[09:34] <hayami> and it compiled =o
[09:34] <hayami> but now how do i run my program?
[09:35] <Repsa_Jih> open up the terminal
[09:35] <Repsa_Jih> cd to the directory your progam is in
[09:35] <Repsa_Jih> and us
[09:35] <Repsa_Jih> ./your-program-name
[09:35] <Repsa_Jih> s/us/use
[09:36] <hayami> fantastic man!
[09:36] <hayami> thank you
[09:36] <hayami> but instead of main i always put int?
[09:36] <Repsa_Jih> no problem
[09:36] <hayami> sorry
[09:36] <hayami> instead of void?
[09:36] <Repsa_Jih> yes
[09:37] <Repsa_Jih> yes, that would be best
[09:37] <hayami> even if i'm using floating numbers? that's not a problem?
[09:37] <Repsa_Jih> nope, that has nothing to do with it :)
[09:37] <Repsa_Jih> main = always int
[09:38] <nosrednaekim> !off-topic
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about off-topic - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <nosrednaekim> !offtopic
[09:38] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:39] <hayami> ok repsa thanks a lot
[09:40] <Repsa_Jih> no problem
[09:40] <M[i] lad> emilsedgh, inja foshe bedam dar beram :D
[09:45] <otalivan> hi everybody. I need to shutdown X on kubuntu in order to install the official Nvidia driver, and I type "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" in a console as advised, but it doesn't work
[09:45] <otalivan> anyone has any idea on another way to kill X ?
[09:46] <ScorpKing> hi
[09:47] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: are you running kdm?
[09:47] <otalivan> I am running kde
[09:48] <otalivan> I have kubuntu installed
[09:48] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: you don't have ubuntu installed?
[09:48] <otalivan> I'm a begginer, as you may have already noticed ;)
[09:48] <garfield> nosrednaekim: esque beryl peu fonction avec un cd live?
[09:48] <nosrednaekim> thats what we speciallize in ;)
[09:48] <otalivan> no, I have kubuntu instead, isn't this the "kubuntu support channel"??
[09:48] <M[i] lad> blix, mamnon :*
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: yeah... but I was just wondering if you had ubuntu installed as well.
[09:49] <M[i] lad> blix, eva khail kardam toye technotux hastam !
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: you can reboot the computer ;)
[09:49] <ScorpKing> i want to mount a loopback encrypted disk on my home directory when i log in. it must use the password from kdm in the mount prosess. any ideas or where do i start looking?
[09:49] <otalivan> well, I had it installed before but I changed to kubuntu, I tried it and I liked the KDE environment better than Gnome
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: are you still using the gnome login manager?
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: is the login manager brown?
[09:49] <otalivan> I don't think so, I installed kubuntu using Wubi
[09:50] <otalivan> nooo
[09:50] <otalivan> it's blue
[09:50] <ScorpKing> i think he uses kdm. top will show.
[09:50] <nosrednaekim> ah.. ok :)
[09:50] <nosrednaekim> just checking.
[09:51] <otalivan> the command "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" didn't work because it DOES kill X, only that it doesn't show up a command line, instead I get a black screen with a cursor but no prompt line...
[09:51] <nosrednaekim> try ctrl+alt+f2?
[09:51] <ScorpKing> otalivan: i just got here. what is the problem ur having?
[09:51] <otalivan> I've tried to reboot the computer but I don't know how to get the "boot menu"
[09:52] <otalivan> well I simply want to kill X in order to run the official nvidia driver installer
[09:52] <otalivan> I think I will try ctrl+alt+f2, haven't done it before
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: so you can't reboot?
[09:52] <nadrosima> re configure x server
[09:52] <BrightEyes`> what option should i find in my router settings to open ports?
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> !ports
[09:53] <ScorpKing> otalivan: press <esc> when u boot and choose recovery mode. nvidia won't install in runlevel 3 or higher.
[09:53] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up port-forwarding (for games, torrents, webservers) see http://portforward.com - also see !firewall
[09:53] <nadrosima> bright u use linux go set to DMZ
[09:53] <kkathman> otalivan:  you can, by the way, shutdown an X service a couple of ways - at the CLI you can do a sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop (if you get a lock you can delete the lock in the /tmp file
[09:53] <otalivan> I understand that reboot is simply to restart kubuntu, right? I obviously can reboot, but I don't know how to get the "boot menu" once kubuntu starts running, so every time I reboot I alwats get the graphical environment running
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: ah! I see.
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: must be a wubi thing...
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> otalivan: I think kdm has an otpion to stop the x server.
[09:54] <nadrosima> otivan sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg open pc recovery mode
[09:54] <ScorpKing> otalivan: press <ESC> when it sais Grub Loading...
[09:54] <BrightEyes`> nadrosima: how do i go to DMZ?
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> "command line mode" or seomthing.
[09:54] <kkathman> nosrednaekim:  the command I gave above will stop it I believe :)
[09:54] <blix> when I typed in /list ...does this cause alot of traffic?
[09:54] <nadrosima> dmz a modem setting and u use static ip
[09:55] <BrightEyes`> nadrosima: i dont have such option in my modem/router settings
[09:55] <nosrednaekim> kkathman: yeah..it will but thats not his problem.
[09:56] <nosrednaekim> bye all!
[09:56] <nosrednaekim> work time..
[09:56] <nosrednaekim> :)
[09:56] <kkathman> well yeah I think that his problem and x-server are two things :)
[09:56] <kkathman> bye :)
[09:56] <nadrosima> otivan sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg open pc recovery mode
[09:56] <ScorpKing> the problem is that to install nvidia binary drivers you have to be in runlevel 1 on kubuntu. the only way to get there is from startup. just switching to runlevel 1 once the computer booted will only show the bootsplash image. tty1,2,3.. doesn't work then.
[09:56] <nadrosima> otivan sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg open pc recovery mode
[09:56] <sayers> is there a video player that can play a DVD .iso backup?
[09:57] <nadrosima> scorpking u to
[09:57] <nadrosima> otivan sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg open pc recovery mode
[09:57] <kkathman> ScorpKing:  once you drop to the cli out of KDE you can easily compile and install the driver
[09:57] <kkathman> Ive done that 100s of times
[09:57] <ScorpKing> kkathman: it didn't work for me, but anyway...
[09:58] <BrightEyes`> nadrosima:
[09:58] <kkathman> ScorpKing:  you do have to make absolutely certain that 1) you stop X  and 2) you have all the compile tools
[09:58] <ScorpKing> sayers: one way to do that is to mount the iso as loopback and play it from there.
[09:59] <kkathman> ScorpKing:  then cd to the directory you have your NVIDIA driver file in... sh that file and choose to BUILD/Compile the interface
[09:59] <sayers> ScorpKing: I've done that but there is audio ts video ts and that is a bit harder to play?
[09:59] <ScorpKing> kkathman: is that for the .bin file?
[09:59] <kkathman> well the last time I did the nvidia driver it was an SH file I got directly from the nVIDIA site
[10:00] <ScorpKing> sayers: all dvd's look like that. use kaffine or vlc to play it once it is mounted. you might need some codecs if it complains.
[10:00] <sayers> ScorpKing: so I play both folderS?
[10:00] <ScorpKing> sayers: open the .vob files
[10:01] <sayers> ScorpKing: THere are quite a few
[10:02] <ScorpKing> sayers: there is usually about 4 that is 1gb or so. they will have similar filenames. thats where the main movie is.
[10:02] <sayers> ScorpKing: I think I got it :)
[10:02] <ScorpKing> :)
[10:03] <sayers> !yay | ScorpKing
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yay - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <sayers> :*(
[10:03] <sayers> ScorpKing: Thanks
[10:03] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:03] <AirstrikeIvanov> Kubuntu users, Id advise against trying Compiz Fusion, it seems to fail completely when you try to install it, and #compiz-fusion doesnt want to help.
[10:04] <hjunes> I cannot force wireless assistant to use only one essid :(
[10:05] <ScorpKing> kkathman: the installer wil try to download a kernel and if that fails it will compile one. if ur not in runlevel one it usually say it cant install.
[10:05] <shadowcat> how do you get H.264 decoding working in Kaffeiene?
[10:05] <winbond> hjunes, what do  u mean
[10:05] <kkathman> ScorpKing:  hmmm you have the option - it will ask you if you want to download one - I always say NO and let it compile
[10:06] <ScorpKing> kkathman: :) many ways to do it.
[10:06] <hjunes> winbond, the signal goes up and down, obviously there are packet losses, then an another wireless network is chosen, but another wireless networks(essids) do not work for me.
[10:06] <kkathman> hehe yep - actually just going through the basic instructions on the Restricted Formats...blah is prolly best
[10:07] <AirstrikeIvanov> hjunes: Try configuring the interface manually, instead of using DHCP?
[10:08] <ScorpKing> just for info. those that want to play windows based videos and dvd's in kaffeine will have to install the w32codecs packege. i don't see it in the repos so google for it.
[10:08] <winbond> hjunes, there should be an option to select which network to use bu default, and if you have disconnects then you need to fix the connection, which router do u have?
[10:08] <shadowcat> ScorpKing: what about h.264 decoding?
[10:09] <shadowcat> that's not a windows codec as far as I know
[10:09] <shadowcat> considering that vlc works with it....
[10:09] <hjunes> I would like to forbid the use of other networks and use only my SpeedStream ADSL modem.
[10:09] <blix> what is kubuntu?
[10:09] <ScorpKing> shadowcat: i don't know what that is, but try w32codecs. maybe it works.
[10:10] <ScorpKing> ubuntu linux with KDE
[10:10] <blix> ah right..
[10:10] <blix> is that it?
[10:10] <ScorpKing> yes and it's nicer. :-D
[10:10] <blix> I'm getting used to GNONE
[10:10] <blix> GNOME
[10:10] <ScorpKing> :(
[10:11] <blix> what's so good about KDE?
[10:11] <Tomi-idle> kde is elegant, beautiful, useful & starts with K
[10:11] <ScorpKing> mmm. i like it and it looks great.
[10:11] <blix> why don;t they just scrap the Kubuntu project
[10:11] <blix> and use KDE in the Ubuntu project/
[10:11] <blix> ?
[10:11] <Arwen> KDE isn't braindead
[10:11] <Tomi-idle> blix: why dont they just scrap gnome?
[10:11] <ScorpKing> :( ur not being nice.
[10:12] <Arwen> GNOME just plain can't do anything
[10:12] <blix> Tomi - that is my point
[10:12] <ScorpKing> GNOME is useless. haha
[10:12] <winbond> hjunes, all the networks in range will be visible, u have to set urs as the default
[10:12] <ScorpKing> maybe not. :)
[10:12] <Tomi-idle> blix: glad we got choices is to choose from.someone likes gnome, some like kde. we're on #kubuntu after all
[10:12] <blix> no it's not
[10:12] <blix> I'm using it now, chating to you rioght now
[10:12] <blix> too much choice is bad I think
[10:13] <Tomi-idle> that's open source for ya
[10:13] <ScorpKing> blix: go to #ubuntu :D
[10:13] <blix> no
[10:13] <blix> lol
[10:13] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:13] <waylandbill> too much choice is the essence of open source
[10:13] <blix> it's good in some ways..
[10:13] <Tomi-idle> distros tend to choose mostly the best general software but you can always try other stuff out easily
[10:14] <waylandbill> freedom. That's the only "way" that one should be concerned with.
[10:14] <blix_> someone kick me out/
[10:14] <blix_> ?
[10:14] <Tomi-idle> write /quit
[10:14] <ScorpKing> i think sometimes resources are waisted with having too many of the same opensource programs and products.
[10:14] <Tomi-idle> oh nm
[10:14] <hjunes> winbond, cannot set my SpeedStream as default in Wireless Assistant 0.5.5
[10:14] <Tomi-idle> blix: <-- blix has left this server (Nick collision from services.).
[10:14] <blix_> what I was saying is...if Ubuntu is to become more ubiquitous then it needs standards
[10:15] <waylandbill> noone kicked you out. blix. you got a collision
[10:15] <blix_> otherwise Joe Bloggs will just confused
[10:15] <blix_> collision?
[10:15] <waylandbill> blix has left this server (Nick collision from services.).
[10:15] <Tomi-idle> blix_ well ubuntu (gnome) is the normal install. kubuntu is ubuntu with just different desktop environment. there's still a lot in common
[10:15] <blix_> yeah I'm fully aware of that.
[10:16] <blix_> well I guess Windows does have lots of versions itself
[10:16] <blix_> so Linux is really no different
[10:16] <milian> nabend
[10:16] <Tomi-idle> microsoft tries to stuff those standards up your throat.. we dont want that ^^
[10:16] <Arwen> how does Microsoft stuff anything up your throat?
[10:16] <Arwen> if you don't like it, don't use it
[10:16] <Tomi-idle> then when they decide to change it, the old version wont work anymore
[10:16] <kkathman> Arwen:  good point :)
[10:16] <Tomi-idle> there are situations you gotta use windows.. i.e. schools until i get the convinced
[10:17] <blix_> Tomi - or the new version won't work :P
[10:17] <Tomi-idle> blix_ vista... mmmm
[10:17] <blix_> even with Vista - it's still hasn't kept up with new drivers and etc
[10:17] <runlevelten> Tomi-idle: That's the opposite of a standard.
[10:17] <Tomi-idle> and they're already working on the "7" os
[10:17] <winbond> hjunes, did you try to update?
[10:17] <blix_> 7?
[10:17] <nadrosima> and genune chack hack :P
[10:17] <ScorpKing> Arwen: microsoft don't allow you to change anything if you don't like it. you're stuck with what they give you.
[10:18] <Arwen> ScorpKing, wtf does that even mean?
[10:18] <blix_> I don't think that really matters
[10:18] <Arwen> If you don't like Microsoft software, don't use it.
[10:18] <Arwen> It really is as easy as that.
[10:18] <ScorpKing> lol
[10:18] <blix_> even if Ubuntu was like Microsoft...I don't think people trying to alter the OS would still be a small minority
[10:18] <Tomi-idle> Arwen: it's not that easy
[10:19] <Arwen> Yes. It. Is.
[10:19] <mille_> any one have problems with the feisty-backports
[10:19] <runlevelten> Arwen: Wait until you get a job.
[10:19] <Arwen> mille_, what problem in particular?
[10:19] <Tomi-idle> there might not be software for your specific needs, or the software is awful compared to windows soft.
[10:19] <Arwen> runlevelten, guess what, everything has a consequence.
[10:19] <mille_> i am thinking of enabling them
[10:19] <Tomi-idle> i'd rather go the productive way and use windows if the software would be better for it
[10:19] <Arwen> Tomi-idle, well, go write it yourself. That's what this whole open sores software is about, no?
[10:20] <Arwen> Anyway, I'm tired of people claiming that MS is forcing them to use their software.
[10:20] <winbond> hjunes, sudo apt-get upgrade wlassistant
[10:20] <blix_> Quantas or Screem?
[10:20] <AirstrikeIvanov> Tomi-Idle: If you cant find something or dont like it, Dont use it. Its that simple. We dont have a gun to your head forcing you to use Kubuntu.
[10:20] <Tomi-idle> Arwen: not everyone can code <.< but yeah, i'd have to convince people to write specific software --- and trying to avoid soft patents on the way
[10:20] <kkathman> MS doesnt force anyone to do anything
[10:20] <ScorpKing> Arwen: having a bad day?
[10:20] <Arwen> mille_, QT4 was broken for a few days a while back, but other than that I haven't had a problem with backports.
[10:20] <runlevelten> Arwen: What is restricting the ability to copy and paste text from docx files in the office rtial?
[10:20] <kkathman> last I checked I didnt see a gun to my head
[10:20] <BluesKaj> Vista is deing dissed by their former supporters PC mag and PC world for a slow clunky and bad technology software that doesn't integrate very well even with apps supposedly written for it ...I wouldn't call it a turnaround on the mags part but now linux actaully has a page dedicated the OS :)
[10:20] <Tomi-idle> AirstrikeIvanov: that went 360' pretty fast
[10:20] <mille_> ok thanks arwen
[10:20] <AirstrikeIvanov> About Vista, I wouldnt touch it.
[10:21] <blix_> Vista I would only use for games
[10:21] <blix_> and maybe certain apps
[10:21] <Arwen> BluesKaj, yes, so what?
[10:21] <AirstrikeIvanov> Windows Vista reports everything done to Microsofts quality control. If you do anything they dont like, or for no reason, your Windows will just randomly refuse to start.
[10:21] <blix_> otherwise I am liking Ubuntu
[10:21] <kkathman> i certainly wouldnt install it ... but you dont have much choice... you cant buy a Dell without it now :(
[10:21] <Arwen> *sigh* vista bashing?
[10:21] <kkathman> not bashing - just preferences :)
[10:21] <AirstrikeIvanov> Nah, I just tested it
[10:21] <blix_> but you can buy a Dell with Ubuntu
[10:21] <winbond> hjunes, sudo apt-get upgrade wlassistant
[10:21] <runlevelten> Arwen: You know there are places where you can windows troll to your heart's content.
[10:22] <Arwen> blix_, any of.... 3 models
[10:22] <runlevelten> Digg, for instance.
[10:22] <Arwen> runlevelten, actually, you're the one trolling./
[10:22] <kkathman> Arwen - the truth is, Vista still doesnt support alot of things...and actually thats pretty shameful at this point
[10:22] <hjunes> winbond, that's already feisty fawn
[10:22] <BluesKaj> not bashing Arwen , merely reporting what i read in the editorials of  a couple of pretty influential pc mags
[10:22] <Arwen> It's FUD like what you spew that makes people wary of Open Source Software.
[10:23] <runlevelten> I don't spew any fud at all.
[10:23] <Arwen> And I'm not pushing an opinion on Vista one way or the other.  If you don't like it, don't use it.  Is this acceptable? thanks
[10:26] <Arwen> 73c? that's not acceptable for anything
[10:26] <Arwen> get a new fan
[10:26] <Tomi-idle> can you change usb vendor id manually? i'd like to force a webcam to work with another vendors same-ish model
[10:26] <Fusion^> Arwen, really? wish it were that easy. its a notebook...
[10:26] <Tomi-idle> Fusion^: if it's nvidia 7600gt or something like that it's ok
[10:27] <Arwen> Fusion^, heh
[10:27] <Tomi-idle> Fusion^: try to search for your model on the net and get a temperature low/high
[10:27] <Fusion^> Tomi-idle, its a quadro nvs 110m (7300)
[10:27] <eddjc2> amm having a problem with general network dubries in kubuntu - I have a static ip address set up on a router and am able to port forward to an address (i.e <IP_ADDRESS>). How do I set it up so that a) kubuntu has a static ip address and can connect to the internet and b) apache is configured for that ip? I've been messing around ended up causing an ip conflict across my network and yet no other computers ave that ip. When nothing worked I gave up
[10:28] <david__> buona sera
[10:29] <david__> how are you?
[10:30] <Tomi-idle> Fusion^: can't find a specs sheet on it <.<
[10:30] <AirstrikeIvanov> eddjc2: Set up your interface using a text editor on /etc/network/interfaces (as a superuser of course!)
[10:30] <AirstrikeIvanov> eddjc2: From then on, Apache should work fine.
[10:31] <djmaster13> plop all
[10:32] <Fusion^> Tomi-idle, same here. the palm rest are really warm. it's a dell latitude. do you think i should contact them or something. i just doubt that they'd be friendly enough to help since feisty is not supported on the latitudes
[10:32] <djmaster13> !seen Eurky
[10:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen eurky - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[10:32] <djmaster13> Question rapide avant que j'aille me couch
[10:33] <eddjc2> AirstrikeI: ok I'm there - what should it say?
[10:33] <djmaster13> oups
[10:33] <djmaster13> english sorry
[10:33] <djmaster13> exit
[10:35] <eddjc2> (interfaces that is) - I have auto eth0 (br) iface eth0 inet dhcp
[10:37] <winbond> hjunes, did u update it?
[10:38] <hjunes> winbond, trying to get wlassistant from gutsy
[10:39] <nadrosima> hello ! who know can be open corel12 on with wine ?
[10:39] <winbond> hjunes, did you run the upgrade command i gave you?
[10:40] <Googleheimer> ummm
[10:40] <hjunes> winbond, yep, mine is always upgraded to feisty fawn
[10:41] <winbond> hjunes, run it and check the version ,
[10:41] <Googleheimer> anyone know how to get midi playback...I'm trying to use kguitar and Denemo...kguitar freezes and I get no sound from Denemo
[10:42] <ScorpKing> cheers all!
[10:43] <hjunes> winbond, you mean 0.5.5-0ubuntu5
[10:43] <christoffer> Hey. Anyone who have had succes with installing a SPCA5xx webcam?
[10:43] <Googleheimer> what about acer orbicam?
[10:44] <winbond> hjunes, the latest one is 0.5.7
[10:45] <winbond> hjunes, but if you have pocket loss , you need to change the channel u are using, raise the transmitting power or move the router into a different spot
[10:45] <winbond> hjunes, which router are you using?
[10:46] <voidmage> I can't get kde to recognize and automount my usb thumb drive
[10:46] <hjunes> winbond, yeah i now, I should upgrade to gutsy which have 0.5.7, or, to have wireless-utils-devel to compile from source
[10:46] <hjunes> winbond, I have changed channel and raised my SpeedStream router a bit.
[10:46] <Googleheimer> Gutsy is nice...they finally got some sort of support for the ENE Technologies card readers
[10:47] <hjunes> winbond, wireless-utils-devel is not in Feisty
[10:47] <winbond> hj, im running gutsy, but i really dont like the performance of ubuntu, its been lacking
[10:47] <Fusion^> Tomi-idle, i switched compiz off. im getting 68 - 69c.... what do you think?
[10:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> what processor is this?
[10:50] <SilentDis> hello :)
[10:51] <alejandro_> someone had tried to install cedea 6.0?
[10:51] <Tomi-idle> Fusion^: my 7600gt idles at around 58-60c on stress it can go over 70 easily. but it's a desktop model :/
[10:51] <Tomi-idle> Fusion^: would help if there's specifications for your card
[10:51] <Fusion^> Tomi-idle, that doesn't sound good to me
[10:51] <t3h0wner2> ugh at alsa
[10:52] <Fusion^> Tomi-idle, it would be a 7300
[10:52] <SilentDis> odd question:  My cell provider (Alltel) has a high-speed 'net access option available.  I will finally be able to ditch my crummy dialup!  I intend to drop a little low-powered server in place to do the actual connection, then back to my router, etc.  I have to connect a cell phone to a USB port for the inital connection.  Anyone had any experience doing something like this on an ubuntu server build?  Should I go with 6.06 LTS or 7.04?  any
[10:52] <SilentDis> suggestions at all?
[10:52] <Tomi-idle> Fusion^: nvidia-settings have 115'c as slowdown threshold. so im not worried
[10:52] <Tomi-idle> Fusion^: if you have the binary drivers try nvidia-settings yourself and check if it's a different slowdown temp
[10:53] <t3h0wner2> Anyone have much experience getting the retarded alsa to work for via audio on gateway mx3230?
[10:53] <t3h0wner2> i got it to work on "ubuntu" a while back, but I cant remember what I did...
[10:54] <Fusion^> Tomi-idle, slowdown threshold is 99c
[10:54] <winbond> hjunes, i dont know why u cant set a network as a default, i just used the wlass yesterday on a mint distro and there was a option to automatically use a given network
[10:55] <t3h0wner2> Anyone? What other alsa packages should e installed?
[10:55] <CPrgmSwR2> Can someone help me get the ati-drivers-8.40.4 working
[10:56] <Fusion^> thanks Tomi-idle that's a lot quicker than this tech support guy :)
[10:56] <t3h0wner2> ...?
[10:57] <hjunes> winbond, the problem is when network goes down: a new network is picked up from the list, but i does not work, instead, I would like to deny other networks
[10:58] <hjunes> winbond, typically SpeedStream is chosen, no problem when it is present, just others are not denyable
[11:05] <Karti> Hi all, after a machine crash, is there a log file that can be viewed to see what the issues were?
[11:05] <waylandbill> Karti: /var/log
[11:07] <CPrgmSwR2> This is really odd
[11:08] <CPrgmSwR2> [   60.153864]  [fglrx:firegl_unlock]  *ERROR* Process 5584 using kernel context 0
[11:08] <Karti> waylandbill: thanks, I looked and checked faillog and lastlog and they look to be full of @
[11:08] <Karti> waylandbill: I looked in syslog and it stops at 8am this morning, would this be a good incication that is when the power went etc?
[11:08] <CPrgmSwR2> is it not possible to use the new ati-drivers
[11:14] <waylandbill> Karti: yes. follow the timestamps young padawan. :P
[11:15] <DevideZero> there is an easy way to install compiz fusion ( nvidia ) on kubuntu ?
[11:16] <Karti> lol, yes its a lot easier than the old windows event viewer. I did notice another - syslog.0 and a few that were syslog.gz. My question, master, does the system do this automatically everytime the system starts?
[11:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> does ti create a startup log?  i would imagine so
[11:20] <fabian> Hey guys! Is it possible to boot the kubuntu-installer from a usb-hdd rather than from cd? I do not have a cdrom-drive :(
[11:20] <DevideZero> fabian , yes
[11:20] <CPrgmSwR2> oh cool
[11:21] <CPrgmSwR2> how big does the flash drive have to be?
[11:21] <bhgfhgfd> fabian yes but you will have to set it up though your system bios
[11:21] <fabian> DevideZero: ahh, cool, any howtos describing this?
[11:21] <DevideZero> 700 mb i think ( like the kubuntu cd )
[11:21] <DevideZero> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610
[11:22] <fabian> bhgfhgfd: my bios is able to boot usb-devices (i am very sure of that :) )
[11:23] <bhgfhgfd> fabian cool beans
[11:23] <Karti> Daisuke_Laptop: Ta
[11:24] <fabian> DevideZero: hum, this tutorial requires windows... for what did you search? I'd look on my own, but I don't really know what to look for...
[11:25] <DevideZero> fabian can you extract iso image ?
[11:25] <CPrgmSwR2> http://www.ubuntux.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-without-cd-or-usb-boot
[11:25] <fabian> DevideZero: well, I would mount it and then just copy from the loopbackdevice?!
[11:29] <travis_> ...
[11:31] <ch40s> my task bar has locked up
[11:31] <travis_> i need help, anyone willing to help me out?
[11:31] <ch40s> any suggestions?
[11:31] <fabian> ch40s: what do you mean, "locked up" ?
[11:31] <travis_> i did the kubuntu install through ubuntu, but i still have the gnome desk top, but i want to try out the kde desk top environment, how the heck do i change it
[11:31] <ch40s> nothing works when i lcick it
[11:32] <ch40s> well
[11:32] <fabian> try pressing alt+f2
[11:32] <fabian> and then enter "killall -9 kicker && kicker"
[11:32] <ch40s> worked
[11:32] <fabian> fine :)
[11:32] <ch40s> what is that?