[10:24] <calrik> :( no one has answer to my question, was my question not phrased correctly I do people here do not know?
[10:25] <Demostene> calrik: what was your question?
[10:25] <calrik> scroll up
[10:25] <nulled> calrik: if you are messing around with mount... that can be potentially distructive... this is a beginners chat
[10:25] <Dravekx> can someone help me setup a virtual directory?
[10:25] <petsounds> om26er, nulled thanks bro.
[10:26] <rayno_b> hi there - I've got an ntfs hdd in my ubuntu machine that I want to run a utility on so that I can check it for bad sectors.  Can anyone suggest a method or software?
[10:26] <calrik> I am not a beginner...
[10:26] <nulled> calrik: and neither is the mount command, THIS channel is for beginners
[10:26] <calrik> sorry didnt think organise a partion in ubuntu was beyond this channel
[10:27] <calrik> beginners don't set up secondary hard drives?
[10:27] <DJones> calrik: Its not, #ubuntu is for all support questions regardless of difficulty
[10:27] <RocketLauncher> c&p my question see if someone else knows
[10:27] <RocketLauncher> In smplayer, when i move my cursor to the side and let it disappear so i can watch a movie.. it REAPPEARS AND DISAPPEARS. it's annoying, what should I do?
[10:27] <om26er> calrik: although i didnot understand the question ubuntuforums.org
[10:27] <iflema> calrik usually mounted @ /mnt or /media
[10:27] <nulled> calrik: you have to copy the old partiton to a temp folder, mount the partition and copy the data to new partition
[10:27] <Demostene> nulled: you mean I shoudn't help calrik to setup a new hd in his PC?
[10:28] <Dravekx> anyone?
[10:28] <Dravekx> I need to setup WEB access with APACHE so users in their home directories can upload websites. how do I do that?
[10:28] <nulled> calrik: oh, in that case..  mkdir -p /new/drive then mount it... use man mount for help
[10:29] <DJones> calrik: Assuming you don't need the data on the 2nd hdd, gparted should be able to format & partition it as you need, then create whatever mount points you want in /media or /mnt and then mount it as needed
[10:29] <calrik> the partion is already backed up etc, all I want to know is the best place to store the new mount, /media/hdd2 ?
[10:29] <iflema> mkfs.ext4 once mounted.... devices mounted under /media will show on the desktop
[10:30] <calrik> then just create any folder I need?
[10:30] <Demostene> calrik: yes
[10:30] <iflema> calrik yes
[10:30] <calrik> thank you :)
[10:31] <Demostene> calrik: after you reboot you have to mount it again .... unless you set it up in fstab
[10:31] <RocketLauncher> Mouse reappears and disappears every once in a while while playing a video fullscreen in smplayer. I dont move my mouse. Not a mouse problem, I've definitely checked..
[10:32] <calrik> Demostene: Is there a gui tool for setting up fstab or will I have to manually put it in the config file?
[10:32] <CopyWriter> hey guys is it possible that i can have a cloud server on my local network with authentication so that when a user puts a file in a specific folder it synchronizes
[10:32] <Demostene> calrik: if such a toll exists I'm not aware of it; I'm used to vi ;)
[10:33] <om26er> calrik: pastebin your fstab please
[10:33] <calrik> kk lol
[10:33] <calrik> om26er: haven't done it yet
[10:33] <om26er> calrik: sorry pastebin sudo fdisk -l
[10:34] <calrik> last question is there really much difference performance wise to switch from ntfs to ext3/4?
[10:34] <Guest13578> hi everyone im having a problem with a fresh install of ubuntu 9.10.....i can change my screen res and its set waaaay too low i tried to have a look at xorg.conf but there doesnt appear to be one
[10:34] <om26er> Guest13578: please change your name. which gpu are you using?
[10:34] <iflema> calrik the ext's are a far better choice
[10:34] <Demostene> calrik: I don't know; what kind of usage are you going for?
[10:35] <ultraparadigm> Guest13578, You mean you *can* change your screen resolution, or you *can't*?
[10:35] <Guest13578> i have an nvidia riva tnt2 64 pro card and i mean i cant change it and how do i change my nick lol
[10:35] <calrik> Demostene: hmm streaming music/video so pretty high usage
[10:35] <Guard1an> Guest13578, /nick yournick
[10:36]  * om26er think /nick don't work in empathy 2.28.x
[10:36] <ultraparadigm> Guest13578, Go to "System > Display"
[10:36] <karhu> im using chatzilla
[10:36] <calrik> thanks heaps all I will get back to you with my pastebin of fdisk -l after I format my hdd
[10:36] <DJones> !nvidia | karhu
[10:36] <ultraparadigm> karhu, did you go to "System > Display"?
[10:36] <karhu> i tried to change it thru system/display but it only has very low resolutions
[10:37] <ultraparadigm> ok, you might need the proprietary drivers
[10:37] <om26er> karhu: then you need to install the nvidia driver
[10:37] <ultraparadigm> I had the same issue
[10:37] <karhu> do i get that from nviadia or somewhere else ?
[10:37] <DJones> karhu: You probably need to go to Hardware Drivers and install the nvidia driver
[10:37] <karhu> nvidia*
[10:37] <Demostene> calrik: is the disk going to stay all the time connected to your linux? ext3/4 are very good filesystems but NTFS is far more deployed in other OSes
[10:37] <om26er> karhu: system>administration>hardware drivers
[10:38] <karhu> i went to hardware drivers and it said i have no proprietry drivers or something like that
[10:38] <ultraparadigm> karhu, go to "Administration > Hardware drivers"
[10:38] <ultraparadigm> Did you see one listed that said not active?
[10:38] <DJones> karhu: How old is the nvidia tnt card, if its what I think, its quite an old card which might not be supported anymore, I've got an old nvidia geforce 2 which only works with the open source nv driver
[10:38] <karhu> i read somewhere to use the legacy drivers but apt-get tells me they arent there anymore
[10:38] <om26er> karhu: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade then try again
[10:39] <karhu> i did all that just came back from a reboot
[10:39] <brijith> hi friends, How can configure my gmail account in Evolution, I am accessing internet through a proxy server. because of that I am having some trouble in connection
[10:39] <karhu> tnt2 is older than geforce2
[10:41] <silverraindog> morning
[10:41] <jellow_> silverraindog: good day
[10:42] <Crazymethjesus> shut the fuck up!!
[10:42] <DJones> !language | Crazymethjesus
[10:42] <nulled> ya family
[10:42] <nulled> :)
[10:43]  * iflema :)
[10:43] <DJones> karhu: I'm not sure what to suggest, I can;t install any nvidia drivers because of the age of the card & it not being supported any longer, but the default driver does give me a resolution of 1600x1200
[10:44] <brijith> hi friends, How can configure my gmail account in Evolution, I am accessing internet through a proxy server. because of that I am having some trouble in connection, please help me
[10:44] <karhu> im not fussed about 3d but its pretty essential that i can up the res because atm i cant even see the bottom of windows so i gotta hit enter and hope the correct button was selected lol
[10:45] <karhu> could it have anything to do with the fact that im running on an LCD tv ? its always worked fine for me before tho
[10:45] <RocketLauncher> Mouse reappears and disappears every once in a while while playing a video fullscreen in smplayer. I dont move my mouse. Not a mouse problem, I've definitely checked..
[10:46] <brijith> hi friends, How can configure my gmail account in Evolution, I am accessing internet through a proxy server. because of that I am having some trouble in connection
[10:46] <karhu> try turning ur mouse over onto its back when u watch video's...see if that stops it
[10:47] <brijith> hi friends, How can configure my gmail account in Evolution, I am accessing internet through a proxy server. because of that I am having some trouble in connection, Please help
[10:50] <brijith> hi All, How can configure my gmail account in Evolution, I am accessing internet through a proxy server. because of that I am having some trouble in connection
[10:50] <brijith> Please help
[10:50] <richiguada> what do you happen?
[10:51] <calrik> ok from my http://pastebin.com/d791e58a6 can someone please help me with what entry I need to put into fstab to make sdb1 automount at boot?
[10:51] <silverraindog> brijith: can you get mail from the outside ?
[10:52] <karhu> should ubuntu 9.10 have an xorg.conf file ?
[10:52] <brijith> silverraindog: i can access mail from browser
[10:53] <iflema> calrik read/write or read/only?
[10:53] <ziroday> calrik: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab ?
[10:53] <ziroday> karhu: nope
[10:54] <calrik> ziroday: no I had someone help me in this channel just before and they told me to pastebin my fdisk -l
[10:54] <brijith> silverraindog: any idea ?
[10:54] <calrik> iflema: read/write but never mind I will work it out from the link ziroday just give me thanks all
[10:55] <karhu> can we still get linux drivers from nvidia ?
[10:55] <Kransac> Hi everyone
[10:56]  * iflema v.v
[10:57] <pat|nG> i got 1 notebook with 3 partitions 80gb each partition..my primary os is vista and 1 80 i'm plannin to install ubuntu....from 80gb can i still make partition to that in installing ubuntu?
[10:59] <Kransac> I have a problem with my external hard drive (Mybook 1To) that I can't access. I belive it's because of (among other) the pratition table. I tried an fsck but it took more than 12 hours for nothing.
[10:59] <Kransac> I don't care about the data on it
[10:59] <Kransac> Is there a way to format it?
[10:59] <Kransac> gparted doesn't recogize it
[11:00] <ziroday> Kransac: does it appear in the output of sudo fdisk -l ?
[11:00] <Demostene> Kransac: gparted can't see it?? Is it connected through USB?
[11:00] <karhu> i just d/l'd the legacy linux driver from nvidia..does anyone know whether it will actually work or not ? due to not having an xorg.conf file?
[11:01] <ziroday> karhu: why not install the driver from the repo's?
[11:01] <dunc> hiya folks, i'm following this guide to setup a custom X session... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession , it's all fine apart from the guide says to pick "Default System Session" from the sessions menu to run my own .xsession file, but my menu has no such option
[11:01] <Demostene> karhu: create that file with text from mvidia
[11:01] <karhu> cause i cant find it in the repo's
[11:01] <dunc> anybody know how to tell gdm to use my own .xsession?
[11:01] <ziroday> karhu: which driver are you attempting to install? And which card do you have?
[11:02] <Dravekx> can someone help me setup a virtual directory for apache???
[11:02] <Dravekx> Im totally lost and dont understand it.
[11:02] <ziroday> karhu: please keep it in the main channel
[11:03] <karhu> ok but its very hard for me to keep up cause i can only see two lines of text at a time lol
[11:03] <Demostene> karhu: just create /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:03] <karhu> due to the low res
[11:04] <ziroday> karhu: one sec
[11:04] <Kransac> Demostene: ziroday: Yes it appears in fdisk -I as sdb1. I gave an other try to gparted unplugging and trurning of the HDD, it is now seen by gparted
[11:04] <Dravekx> I want to setup a user so he can have web access to his home directory. is that what a virtual directory does?
[11:05] <ziroday> karhu: I'd recommend trying either the -nv or -nouveau drivers. envyng may also be able to help you but that is a very, very old card
[11:05] <karhu> ok so what do i have to do?
[11:05] <Demostene> Kransac: so you should now be able to format it with gparted
[11:05] <ziroday> karhu: well do you want to use -nv, -nouveau or give envyng a shot?
[11:06] <iflema> Dravekx maybe also try #apache
[11:06] <karhu> whatever is easiest and or most likely to work lol atm i will be happy to get a decent res so i can see everything im trying to do properly lol
[11:06] <Dravekx> iflema, they sent me here
[11:06] <Kransac> Demostene: Yes. Thank you. But Kind of feel that I'm going to have some more problem : I can't format and Fat32
[11:06] <iflema> Dravekx really
[11:07] <Dravekx> yes
[11:07] <ziroday> karhu: okay, well do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv
[11:07] <karhu> ok i'll give it a go
[11:07] <karhu> thanks :-)
[11:08] <Demostene> Kransac: I suppose gparted can only format ext2/3/4 ... if you want FAT32 you should use other tools if not other os (windows)
[11:08] <karhu> it says xserver-xorg-video-nv is already the newest version ?
[11:08] <iflema> Dravekx http://blog.damontimm.com/how-to-redirect-apaches-default-www-or-public_html-folder-to-a-directory-in-your-home-folder/
[11:09] <ziroday> karhu: okay, then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:09] <Dravekx> iflema, cant do that.. my main page is in /var/www
[11:09] <Dravekx> I want a user to be able to put his home directory on the internet.
[11:09] <Kransac> What file format would you recommand me (linux only use) : fat32, ext3 or ext4? And do you know roughly how long it should take to format 1To? Beause it seems to me that it take years, and that the HDD is now working very hard. Hence I'm wondering if the problem is not material
[11:09] <karhu> ok...was it meant to do anything ?
[11:09] <iflema> Dravekx so link it
[11:09] <ziroday> karhu: just checking it was installed
[11:10] <Dravekx> iflema, I cant get symlinks to work. :(
[11:10] <Demostene> zoroday: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html
[11:10] <Dravekx> they work via ssh, but not FTP.
[11:10] <iflema> Dravekx i get em bcakwards.... man ln
[11:10] <Demostene> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html
[11:11] <blubaustin> hello
[11:11] <Demostene> Dravek: mod_userdir
[11:11] <chipgeri> how to install apache 2.2 and php 5.2.10?
[11:11] <Dravekx> Demostene, ???
[11:11] <Explore1> what is bt8x8??
[11:11] <blubaustin> I just compiled proftpd 1.3.2c with mod_ban as a compiled-in module but... I am getting this error on the ftpdctl ban info "ftpdctl: error contacting server using '/usr/local/var/proftpd/proftpd.sock': Connection refused"
[11:12] <iflema> Dravekx just use/create a group and allow access that way... just for purposes of www
[11:12] <DJones> Kransac: Karmic uses ext4 as default, although upgrades will use whatever was previously there.  For data storage, I use ext3 because thats what it was originally set up as, if i did a new drive, i'd use ext4 now
[11:13] <Kransac> DJones: Ok, thank you
[11:13] <chipgeri> where will httpd.conf files be in apache?
[11:13] <Demostene> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/howto/public_html.html
[11:14] <tuntun> does anyone know where I can download dolphin emulator for linux?
[11:16] <chipgeri> my httpd.conf is empty..how do i configure apache 2.2?
[11:17] <pvh_sa> hey there, i've got ubuntu 9.10 in a dual-monitor setup on a fujitsu lifebook, and compiz won't work - any ideas? compiz isn't giving me any error messages to follow up :(
[11:19] <Thomas_Ludwig> Maybe someone has an idea what I can do. I used sudo chmod -R 644 /* (OMG) and now I have the problem that the system isnt booting. The msg at boot: run-init: /sbin/init: Permission denied kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[11:20] <Thomas_Ludwig> but i already set the right to 755 for /sbin/init
[11:21] <MDGrey> hello guys
[11:21] <MDGrey> while installing squid my apt got broken...can anyone help
[11:21] <Demostene> Thomas: I don't think there is a database with default permissions for every file in the system
[11:22]  * MDGrey wants to be pinged
[11:22] <MDGrey> are my messages going through
[11:23] <DJones> MDGrey: yes, we can see your messages, the channels pretty quiet at the minute though
[11:23] <superboki> Ping reply from MDGrey: 0.95 second(s)
[11:25] <MDGrey_-> hello guys
[11:28] <papul> pretty silent today
[11:29] <POC|Farmer> is there anyone who knows a workaround for this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x11-xserver-utils/+bug/364091 ?
[11:29] <MDGrey_-> guys anybody know what that means subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:31] <arand> MDGrey_-: it is a genreic "something went wrong" message.
[11:31] <MDGrey_-> while installing squid I got this error "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1"  any idea what that means and how to getover it I cant even apt-get update,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[11:32] <tmus> In a PEAP setup (for wireless authentication), I want to limit the authentication to a certain Called-Station-Id... I've tried something like this is the users file but to no avail - should this work?  DEFAULT Called-Station-Id =~ ":WIFISSID$", Auth-Type == EAP
[11:32] <papul> i recently compiled the latest version of openssl. is it ok?
[11:32] <tmus> Leaving out the Called-Station-Id part of the DEFAULT string, everything just works
[11:33] <viliny> Hey! is it possible to mount a online location locally?
[11:33] <viliny> a http to be precise
[11:35] <MDGrey_-> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/squid: file does not exist   how can i fix this
[11:36] <Ubuntut> hello room!:-D
[11:36] <papul> Ubuntut: its channel btw
[11:37] <MDGrey_-> i created a file using touch /etc/init.d/squid seems to have worked
[11:37] <rob_p_> MDGrey_-: maybe squid3
[11:37] <Saturn2888> Can someone to check my sources-list file and preferences to see if I got everything right please? http://pastie.org/786262 What I'm aiming for is only installing libc6 from the karmic repos, everything else I don't want.
[11:38] <Kransac> Ok, well it seems like my problem is solved. Thanks for you help
[11:38] <rob_p_> MDGrey_-: creating an empty init file for squid won't do anything useful as far as getting it to run...
[11:38] <vlad_tepes1969> #NonSoloWii
[11:38] <viliny> does anyone know if it's possible to mount a web folder locally in ubuntu?
[11:40] <Saturn2888> viliny: yes, both ftp and sftp
[11:40] <viliny> how about http?
[11:40] <Saturn2888> viliny: I'm sure there's a way, but I don't know specifically.
[11:40] <uphy> hi
[11:40] <viliny> it's just a web folder shared by my home machine and id like to mount a location on it so that i can access my files as if they were on this laptop
[11:40] <viliny> standard apache web server
[11:41] <acicula> viliny: you need an http file system , dunno if anyone made such a module
[11:41] <dunc> viliny, isn't that the sort of thing that DAV does?
[11:41] <viliny> dunc: it's starting to look like it yes
[11:41] <acicula> ie like smbfs,ftpfs and such
[11:42] <viliny> well thanks all :) i need to read into webdav
[11:42] <acicula> seems theres a module for webdav
[11:43] <Saturn2888> anyone  used apt-preferences file before?
[11:44] <MDGrey_-> whats a good squid version for a very heavy load
[11:44]  * dunc is beginning to wonder if it's because i've got crypted homedir, gdm can't see my .xsession file to use
[11:45] <acicula> dunc: if its not unencrypted yeh
[11:46] <MDGrey_-> how can i get apt to install squid 2.7.8?
[11:47] <acicula> MDGrey_-: you'd have to manually install it if its not in the repo, BUT, very likely the package is either unmaintained or outdated or both
[11:47] <calrik> acicula: or its beta quality
[11:48] <acicula> calrik: oh its a newer version :P?
[11:48] <acicula> MDGrey_-: then that too
[11:48] <calrik> eg the latest nvidia drivers are considered "beta", they are not on the repo but are quiet stable...
[11:49] <MDGrey_-> this is the one i got in apt  2.7.STABLE3-4.1ubuntu1   but it has a bug
[11:50] <MDGrey_-> so I need  2.7.STABLE8
[11:50] <calrik> MDGrey: what is the bug you are mentioning?
[11:50] <calrik> all kernel releases have some bugs of some sort
[11:51] <Saturn2888> did anyone know about my apt-preferences issue? I just need someone to look it over, make sure I wrote the file right
[11:51] <acicula> calrik: well beta sometimes means we dont want to actually support this when it breaks so we will just call it beta
[11:52] <calrik> acicula: good point lol
[11:52] <Dravekx> as a webhost, do I set users home directories to 755???
[11:52] <MDGrey_-> calrik i was facing lots of issue and i was recommended to upgrade to 2.7 8
[11:52] <karhu> does anyone here use the bigpond repo's ?
[11:53] <slayer_> where is
[11:53] <calrik> ah Im still using 2.6.31
[11:54] <slayer_> hi ,firend
[11:54] <slayer_> hello,everyone
[11:54] <iflema> Saturn2888 what version of ubuntu? backport ?
[11:55] <slayer_> who is administrator
[11:56] <slayer_> 中文能显示出来吗？
[11:56] <ziroday> !cn | slackd00d
[11:57] <iflema> Saturn2888 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[11:57] <ziroday> slackd00d: sorry
[11:57] <Saturn2888> iflema: yes, I know, I've read this, but I don't want to break anything. I just need someone to look at my 6-line file and say "look close enough"
[11:58] <iflema> Saturn2888 try backport over pin
[11:58] <Saturn2888> iflema: huh?
[11:59] <iflema> Saturn2888 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[11:59] <calrik> not sure if this the right place to ask but Im running ubuntu desktop, got some really good hard ware, 6gb ram etc, would be better to run ubuntu server in vmware and forward to that for hosting websites/mysql or just have apache etc installed locally?
[11:59] <Saturn2888> iflema: ah thanks
[12:03] <iflema> calrick say 2 vm's in a box would be a power saver
[12:06] <mbrochh> hi all. can anyone help me with the rsync command? i am using "rsync -av /source/ /destination/" but when I delete some folders from source they still exist at destination after another rsync run
[12:06] <iflema> calrick 1 a waste of time.. unless ya testing different setups constantly
[12:07] <mbrochh> i would expect the command to keep the destination exactly the same as the source
[12:09] <KoolD> performance wise is go-openoffice better than the openoffice provided by sun?
[12:09] <slava_dp> !grub
[12:10]  * iflema speaking of wasting time
[12:10] <kwork> does anyone know software what can show directorie sizes graphical from some point of filesystem
[12:10] <kwork> for linux that is
[12:10] <kwork> represent subdir sizes graphicaly
[12:10] <slava_dp> konqueror 3.5.10 used to do it
[12:11] <slava_dp> kwork, there is ncdu, which is console-mode, but it is pretty useful.
[12:11] <kwork> slava_dp, thanks for hint, ill look into it
[12:11] <xteejx> Help needed with evolution - it was connecting fine to gmail via pop and smtp, I haven't changed any settings or anything, but now it just keeps saying "error fetching mail"
[12:12] <ubuntu> hey all
[12:13] <xteejx> Hi, ubuntu, I'm using you hehe
[12:13] <iflema> kwork gnome = baobab
[12:13] <ubuntu> i have a question. my xp disk just decided now was a good time to corrupt its partition table and force me to install. So now, I have a decision to make. Install windows 7 or linux as my primary operating system. What I would prefer is having both like i did with windows xp, but does linux grub play nice with the windows7 / vista boot loader?
[12:14] <mbrochh> hi all. can anyone help me with the rsync command? i am using "rsync -av /source/ /destination/" but when I delete some folders from source they still exist at destination after another rsync run
[12:14] <xteejx> ubuntu: Yes, install 7 first, then linux
[12:14] <xteejx> I run dual boot no problems
[12:14] <ubuntu> so as long as I do windows 7 first, it will work
[12:14] <ubuntu> gotcha
[12:14] <kwork> or use two hdds
[12:15] <xteejx> ubuntu: Yeah, I mean you CAN do it the other way but it gets complicated
[12:15] <coz_> ubuntu,  make sure you defrag windows  before you install ubuntu
[12:15] <recmajkemi> does anyone else having unresponse issues, i can move the mouse but cant click, right click, or wheel scrool it
[12:15] <xteejx> windows 7 defrags on install, so there's no need
[12:15] <coz_> ubuntu,  unless you have separate hard drives
[12:15] <ubuntu> ok, nother question. I don't play many games, but I do play some. I was wondering if I could ditch windows completely but still be able to play my games. will ubuntu play games like CoD 6?
[12:15] <karhu> can someone give me a hand with adding a repo please ?
[12:16] <xteejx> ubuntu: Honestly, as much as I love Ubuntu, very doubtful
[12:16] <bloopletech> I'm on hardy, and attempting to upgrade to karmic; AFAIK I run sudo do-release-upgrade, but that reports 'No new release found'
[12:16] <xteejx> ubuntu: If it can, it's unlikely you will get any decent framerates
[12:16] <bloopletech> Am I doing something wrong?
[12:16] <ubuntu> ok, can't ditch windows completely yet :(
[12:16] <xteejx> ubuntu: Unfortuantely, for the time being, not many can
[12:16] <ubuntu> bloopletech: you need the repos
[12:17] <ubuntu> once you have the correct repos in your sourceslist, you can use that command
[12:17] <bloopletech> ubuntu: ok thanks
[12:17] <xteejx> bloopletech: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[12:17] <bloopletech> Do I just get my current source list and replace hardy -> karmic?
[12:18] <ubuntu> well as much as i don't want to learn windows 7, looks like imma have to :(
[12:18] <Newky> bloopletech: you need to go into synaptic->settings->repositories->updates->release upgrade
[12:18] <xteejx> bloopletech: have you installed update-manager-core?
[12:18] <noXandOs> huh
[12:18] <bloopletech> xteejx: Yes, I did
[12:18] <xteejx> ubuntu: Why not run vi$ta?
[12:18] <Newky> bloopletech: make sure its on normal releases
[12:18] <bloopletech> Newky: This is from ssh, not GUI
[12:18] <ubuntu> because vista sucks
[12:18] <ubuntu> lol
[12:18] <jrib> !upgrade > bloopletech
[12:18] <jrib> bloopletech: follow the server instructions there
[12:18] <xteejx> already point him there
[12:18] <xteejx> *pointed
[12:19] <ubuntu> i hate that operating system with a passion. too bloated. windows 7 is basically vista SP3 :P
[12:19] <Newky> bloopletech: have u tryed sudo apt-get upgrade -d
[12:19] <josemaria> hi
[12:19] <xteejx> bloopletech: You're trying to upgrade another machine thru ssh?
[12:19] <bloopletech> xteejx: Yes, a VPS
[12:19] <Chetic> Anybody know how to get drivers for "Dell Wireless 1520 802.11n Half Mini-Card" ?
[12:19] <Newky> bloopletech: that seems a little like suicide, hardy to karmic may not be all that smooth, a lot of releases in between
[12:19] <josemaria> I've a problem with Jaunty and Karmic, after more or less 1minute of booting, it hangs. /var/log/messages shows a kernel panic.
[12:19] <ubuntu> get the other half of the card and then install the full card driver?
[12:20] <josemaria> what should I do=
[12:20] <bloopletech> oh wait
[12:20] <xteejx> bloopletech: I wouldn't have thought there would be any differences, essentially you're just controlling the host system. Any errors with the do-release-upgrade ?
[12:20] <karhu> http://mirror.files.bigpond.com/ this is the address my ISP gives me for their ubuntu repo but when i try to add the repo thru synaptic it wont let me
[12:20] <psycho_oreos> Chetic, pastebin your lspci -nnk output with that device plugged in
[12:20] <flacom> hi all.. anyone knows iptables?? i got a vpn server on linux... when I client is connected it create a new pppN interface (n >= 0) how can I forward dynamic interfaces?
[12:20] <ubuntu> :P, i would guess probably off the dell side
[12:20] <ouyes> how can i make my ati vga work?
[12:21] <bloopletech> OHH. I misread hardy as being 9.04, not 8.04
[12:21] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, using ati driver I suppose?
[12:21] <xteejx> bloopletech: Hardy is 8.04, 9.04 is Jaunty
[12:21] <ouyes> i tried the official driver but failed
[12:21] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, not supported chipset?
[12:21] <xteejx> ouyes: fglrx only supports the newer radeons and X series
[12:21] <bloopletech> Ok, so if I want to migrate from hardy to karmic, what upgrade path should I follow, hardy -> jaunty -> karmic?
[12:21] <Newky> bloopletech: ur problem is that ur using hardy which is LTS, its configured to not show any upgrades that arent LTS releases as far as i no
[12:21] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  i donot know
[12:21] <xteejx> bloopletech: You can do a direct upgrade
[12:21] <josemaria> this hang doesn't happens when I boot in recovery mode
[12:22] <jrib> bloopletech: hardy -> intrepid -> jaunty -> karmic
[12:22] <xteejx> Can't say how buggy it'll be but ANy errors post here
[12:22] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  my laptop is a thinkpad t400
[12:22] <josemaria> it's a page fault
[12:22] <slava_dp> mbrochh, regarding rsync, add --delete
[12:22] <jrib> bloopletech: skipping releases is not supported unless you are doing LTS -> LTS
[12:22] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, xteejx had some valid info. I'd agree too, there was something about legacy ati drivers aren't getting the support in later builds of ubuntu
[12:22] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  i saw the wiki for help, but still no luck
[12:22] <bloopletech> Thanks to all for their help, I'm getting come conflicting info
[12:22] <Newky> bloopletech: u dont have like a home partition
[12:22] <Newky> bloopletech: never mind ur sshing
[12:22] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, what about the free one? not fglrx but the other
[12:23] <ouyes> so what can i do to get it work
[12:23] <bloopletech> Newky: what? I have ssh root access to my VPS box
[12:23] <xteejx> bloopletech: Look, you CAN do a direct upgrade but it's not advised. Doing it through ssh shouldn't cause any problems.
[12:23] <mbrochh> slava_dp, thank you for the reply! I did that but it didnt help... after some googling i found a suggestion like this: rsync -avzr --delete source dest
[12:23] <mbrochh> that did the job
[12:23] <Newky> bloopletech: now i was going to say u wud b better with a clean reinstall
[12:23] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, pastebin your lspci -nnk output with that ati video card
[12:23] <xteejx> not on a server
[12:23] <_spark> guys, when running an ubuntu-mobile live cd, would it be possible for me to change the xorg.conf to enable tv-out output?
[12:23] <mbrochh> --delete relies on the --recursive switch.. which is included in -a but somehow --delete doesnt recognize that so i had to write it explicitly
[12:24] <Topy44> anyone using cairo-dock, possibly in combination with UNR?
[12:24] <xteejx> bloopletech: All you need is here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes explains everything with upgrading, problems you may encounter, and workarounds :)
[12:24] <ouyes> psycho_oreos, which one are you talking about? i am now afraid to try , i try to install the official driver but it doesnt work and i can not uninstall it following the instructions giving by the ati
[12:25] <Newky> Topy44: nope, but im using docky with UNR and its awesome
[12:25] <bloopletech> Actually, I'm rethinking my goals here
[12:25] <Chetic> psycho_oreos: http://www.pastebin.org/79171
[12:25] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, fglrx is the proprietary one by ati, there should be another one. I wouldn't know it off my head personally but pastebin lspci -nnk of your video chip first
[12:25] <Topy44> Newky: docky doesnt behave the way i like
[12:26] <bloopletech> What advantage would updating bring me? Is newer packages the main advantage?
[12:26] <xteejx> ouyes, the open source is ati-radeon I believe
[12:26] <xteejx> !radeon
[12:26] <Newky> Topy44: fair enuf, i understand not a fully complete dock, jus works for me, whats ur problem with cairo?
[12:26] <Topy44> main thing being subdocks which i dont think docky does
[12:26] <Chetic> psycho_oreos: Sorry just needed to pastebin the last device there
[12:26] <psycho_oreos> Chetic, you'll need wl driver
[12:27] <psycho_oreos> Chetic, 9.10?
[12:27] <Chetic> psycho_oreos: yes
[12:27] <Topy44> my problem is that most of the time it only appears when i move the mouse into the callback zone and then OUT of the dock area again, just for a quick flash
[12:27] <ouyes> >!pastebin
[12:27] <Topy44> so i dont cant actually use it
[12:27] <Newky> Topy44: sounds obvious but its not set to like autohide is it ?
[12:27] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  how to make the robot to help me about pastebin?
[12:28] <Topy44> of course it is, i want it to autohide
[12:28] <xteejx> !pastebin | ouyes
[12:28] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, !pastebin > ouyes
[12:28] <Topy44> but the problem is it doesnt appear before i move the cursor out of its area again
[12:28] <Topy44> it works fine while i'm looking at the desktop btw
[12:29] <universalinterfa> hello
[12:29] <universalinterfa> ciao
[12:29] <ouyes> !pastebinit
[12:30] <Guest63451>  now add win7 to  grub2  my os kubuntu 9.10 please help me
[12:31] <Guest63451>  now add win7 to  grub2  my os kubuntu 9.10 please help me
[12:31] <psycho_oreos> Chetic, try installing broadcom_sta drivers
[12:31] <Topy44> hm, i think i just found a solution - setting the position of cairo-dock to -1 fixes it, for unknown reasons (the problem only shows up while a full screen program has focus btw)
[12:32] <ouyes> psycho_oreos, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d32553bfe
[12:32] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  quite a few lines there
[12:32] <Newky> Topy44: nice one, was lookin on google for u, bu dont see many bugs with it
[12:33] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, I found it: 1002:95c4
[12:33] <Guest63451>  now add win7 to  grub2  my os kubuntu 9.10 please help me
[12:34] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  oh mate you need the PID of the vga card?
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> I thought that when using grub2 the 'update-grub' command/scripts would see/add windows to the listing
[12:34] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  just tell me that il  simply paste it here
[12:40] <DrManhattan> freenode is a mess today
[12:46] <calrik> freenode crash eh?
[12:47] <iflema> calrik there was only 150 in here for a while
[12:47] <Myrtti> !netsplit
[12:48] <calrik> ah I guessed a netsplit :)
[12:48] <pnukeid1> some has experience with subversion in ubuntu ?
[12:48] <Torz> hi
[12:48] <Torz> anyone here dual boots ubuntu, using WUBI?
[12:49] <usr13> slava_dp: Are you monitoring this channel?
[12:50] <slava_dp> usr13, i am, currently.
[12:50] <usr13> slava_dp: Are you trying to edit your menu.lst file?
[12:51] <researcher1> my windows Xp can access Internet but not Ubuntu. We access through proxy which I have configured correctly. Any help
[12:51] <usr13> Can you show is what is on it?
[12:51] <usr13> slava_dp: pastebin it the menu.lst file
[12:54] <calrik> this netsplit due to a denial of service attack?
[12:55] <usr13> calrik: I don't know but will be glad when it's over
[12:55] <shadenzo> hello all
[12:57] <usr13> calrik: I don't know that IRC servers are susceptical to DOS attacts, but I suppose so...
[13:00] <calrik> that vulneribility doesnt work now though but a DOS can still be a pain
[13:00] <jenda> I appear to have some problems with applications sharing audio devices. When amarok is running, any flash videos in firefox freeze and crash firefox - also, I can't run fallout in wine, which freezes as soon as it is to make the first sounds, reporting an ALSA/Pulseaudio error (unable to create stream, too large). Any ideas?
[13:00] <Indy^> Im trying to run ssh in the background on boot ...how should I do this, I've been beatin my head against the wall for a week now
[13:01] <Myrtti> Indy^: sshd?
[13:01] <Indy^> nah the client
[13:01] <Karhu> can someone help me with envyng please ? i installed envyng-core through synaptic but it wont start :-S do i also need to instal envyng-qt ?
[13:01] <calrik> jenda: I also had similiar problems just sec I will find link to the solution I found
[13:01] <jenda> Also, clicking "test" on the pulseaudio sound server in amarok freezes the app.
[13:01] <jenda> calrik: thanks
[13:01] <Indy^> I've tried to add it to init.d but I must not be getting the syntax correct
[13:03] <Leoneof`> hi, how to merge dependencies to be inside package *.deb ?
[13:03] <Indy^> I've also tried to add it to startup application but Im trying to run it without bring up the terminal window
[13:04] <BeardedChimp> I have a character device /dev/raw1394 that corresponds to the firewire on this computer. However it exists whether or it is plugged in. I am writing a script using the firewire and need to do something similar to doing text -x /somefile, to see if it has been plugged in. Any idea how?
[13:05] <SPeck84> Hy every one
[13:06] <dream_th> Hi i have ubuntu on a live usb  (persistent) and i have installed a custom kernel but cannot boot to it
[13:06] <asdff> I need some help with my ram consumption in Ubuntu Karmic
[13:06] <dream_th> it only boots on default kernel version
[13:06] <Indy^> mornin
[13:06] <asdff> I am 90% sure it is something I did wrong ^_^
[13:06] <SPeck84> Magyarok vannak itt?
[13:07] <SPeck84> Can we help my to configure the Samba server. PLease in private
[13:07] <pereirjo> hello
[13:07] <zvacet> ¡ hu | SPeck84
[13:07] <asdff> if I pastebin my process list with cpu/ram consumption could someone help me troubleshoot what is taking up so much memory? Gnome + Openbox + pcmanfm seem to take 30% of ram constantly. With firefox and xchat it is 50% memory. Should I pastebin my process list?
[13:07]  * dox_drum is trying to solve ODE's using SAGEMATH
[13:08] <MorphyNOR> asdff: how much ram do you got?
[13:08] <usr13> asdff: top
[13:08] <asdff> 1gb
[13:08] <MorphyNOR> asdff: thats to be expected then
[13:08] <MorphyNOR> firefox is especially memory hungry
[13:08] <asdff> I appreciate that, however I swear my gnome-session wasn't taking 30% a few days ago
[13:08] <MorphyNOR> you can reduce xchats memory consumptions somewhat by reducing the window buffer
[13:09] <pjotr> asdff, and unused ram is a waste
[13:09] <asdff> pjotr: really?
[13:09] <zvacet> !samba | SPeck84
[13:10] <nmvictor_> i got this error while compiling the linux kernel: make[1] *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 137, anyone know what could have gone wrong?
[13:10] <iflema> asdff 30% of 1gig 4 gnome sounds about right....
[13:11] <ardchoille> asdff: I'm getting about the same as you with the same apps
[13:11] <ardchoille> .. and I try to keep a lean system
[13:11] <pjotr> asdff: the Linux kernel is designed to use most of the available RAM for buffers and cache
[13:11] <asdff> ardchoille: ah really. cool that's a relief then :)>.
[13:11] <xteejx> nmvictor: Try removing ndiswrapper
[13:11] <xteejx> nmvictor: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-15235.html
[13:11] <rubik> hi
[13:11] <asdff> If I just use an openbox session/awesmoe session it is fast as hell
[13:12] <superboki> port 443 is the standard https true/false?
[13:12] <bloopletech> well, my upgrade from herdy -> intrepid went well, I think I'll continue this in the morning
[13:12] <xteejx> superboki: isn't it port 81?
[13:12] <bloopletech> superboki: true
[13:12] <dream_th> Hi i have ubuntu on a live usb  (persistent) and i have installed a custom kernel but cannot boot to it it only boots on default kernel version, is there a way to boot it into this custom kernel?
[13:12] <MorphyNOR> superboki: yes
[13:12] <greenlantern> apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras, is it correct to install codecs on kubuntu?
[13:13] <ardchoille> asdff: yeah, openbox is quite minimal
[13:13] <MorphyNOR> greenlantern: there should also be a notification thingy on the taskbar for that
[13:13] <papul> greenlantern: yea
[13:13] <asdff> ardchoille: yeah :). I really miss gnome-panels though. They are quite convenient.
[13:13] <ardchoille> greenlantern: yes
[13:13] <usr13> asdff: Have you looked at top?  Do you want to pasbebin the top 20 or so lines?
[13:13] <asdff> usr13: from what people are telling me it seems a bit pointless now, as my mem consumption is apparently normal
[13:13] <zvacet> greenlantern:  yes but if you want w32 codecs add medibuntu repo
[13:13] <greenlantern> Is there anything like "kubuntu-restricted-extras" ?
[13:14] <zvacet> !medibuntu | greenlantern
[13:14] <ardchoille> asdff: you can use openbox in gnome instead of metacity, or use something like fluxbox which has its own panel
[13:14] <papul> greenlantern: no
[13:14] <asdff> ardchoille: yeah I use gnome-panel for my panels, openbox as my wmanager and pcmanfm as my file manager.
[13:14] <asdff> wtf @ these flood attacks
[13:15] <ardchoille> asdff: Sounds likeyou're keeping a lean system, good job
[13:15] <MorphyNOR> asdff: get used to it :(
[13:15] <ardchoille> asdff: they're netsplits
[13:15] <ardchoille> !netsplit
[13:15] <xteejx> Enjoy the show?  I've noticed though I had to edit my default gnome session to use that combinatino. Selecting Gnome/Openbox from the session manager on the login screen did not work.
[13:16] <soreau> ! samba > SPeck84
[13:16] <ivanc> hi all
[13:16] <asdff> hey
[13:16] <ardchoille> asdff: yeah, or you could have simply done "openbox --replace" inside gnome
[13:16] <nmvictor_> xteejx: doesnt seem solved?
[13:17] <asdff> ardchoille: how would I go about editing the default session options on the login screen though? (The arch linux wiki suggest editing ~/.xinitrc, however I do not have that file)
[13:17] <xteejx> nmvictor_: I was just looking at the suggestion that worked for someone else
[13:17] <yucatan1991> hello guys i have a IBM T500 with a radeon 3450 when i boot up ubuntu it says there is a new driver available for your graphics card but when i install it and i reboot my laptop i cant get in gnome anymore and my screen stays flashing at a black screen. does somebody know this problem how can i fix this?
[13:18] <ardchoille> asdff: I don't know
[13:18] <nmvictor_> xteejx: so you mean removing the ndiswrapper?
[13:18] <iflema> greenlantern kubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:18] <xteejx> nmvictor_: It appears to have worked for someone else, it may be a known issue
[13:18] <zvacet> greenlantern : see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[13:18] <xteejx> !restricted
[13:19] <yucatan1991> correction its a ati radeon 3650
[13:19] <nmvictor_> xteejx: sorry this is my  first kernel compile experience, do you mind helping me with info on how to remove the module? i could try that
[13:19] <bobsomebody> does anyone know a good IRC for iphone app development?
[13:19] <Yfrwlf> yucatan1991: I'd either install the drivers from ATI's site or just use the existing drivers that work.
[13:20] <Pici> bobsomebody: Try ##iphone to start
[13:20] <xteejx> nmvictor_: ermmm I don't know how to do that, sorry :( There will be a kernel channel on this IRC server, they'll definitely know how to help :)
[13:20] <xteejx> Hi Pici
[13:21] <bobsomebody> Pici, ty!
[13:21]  * Pici waves
[13:21] <nmvictor_> xteejx: thanks,
[13:21] <asdff> oh well not really worth worrying about
[13:21] <xteejx> nmvictor_: No probs, sorry I couldn't be more help
[13:21] <calrik> bobsomebody: also try search "iphone" in synaptic package manager think I seen something in there
[13:21] <asdff> what terminal do you guys recommend using?
[13:21] <asdff> sometimes gnome-terminal seems a bit glitchy
[13:21] <sleeping`dragon> i did a fresh install of ubuntu, on bootup i see "grub loading" but i never get to screen when i choose OS, instead ubuntu starts. I am on karmic and grub2.
[13:22] <yucatan1991> hello guys i have a IBM T500 with a radeon 3450 when i boot up ubuntu it says there is a new driver available for your graphics card but when i install it and i reboot my laptop i cant get in gnome anymore and my screen stays flashing at a black screen. does somebody know this problem how can i fix this?
[13:22] <yucatan1991> correction its a ati radeon 3650
[13:22] <xteejx> sleeping`dragon: You will need to reconfigure grub
[13:22] <xteejx> !grub | sleeping`dragon
[13:22] <jiohdi> my UNR is set for NO screensaver NO power management... yet after about 5-10 min idle, the screen goes dark, but not off... whats causing this? how do I stop it?
[13:22] <sleeping`dragon> !grub2
[13:22] <bobsomebody> calrik, ive actually got most of it figured out, i just cant figure out these 2 files they have no extensions
[13:22] <yucatan1991> somebody?
[13:22] <nmvictor_> xteejx: actually i appreciate, just one more thing.Do you see compiling the kernel on a live CD as a feasible act?
[13:23] <asdff> jihodi: your monitor perhaps?
[13:23] <frostbite7> hey guys how do i get the autum leaves plugin
[13:23] <frostbite7> ?
[13:23] <frostbite7> ?
[13:23] <frostbite7> ?
[13:23] <asdff> frostbite7: what is that plugin? stop spamming btw
[13:23] <xteejx> nmvictor_: ERmmm, I would say its probably hit and miss
[13:23] <arand> sleeping`dragon: if yoy just want to see the menu temporarily, hold down shift before
[13:23] <jiohdi> asdff, the monitor is not turning off... just going dark, you can see the light is still on
[13:23] <bobsomebody> calrik, so im just trying to figure out if this is a normal thing to find or if its one of those "your guess is as good as mine" situations
[13:23] <luohuan> hey,everyone!
[13:23] <asdff> jihodi: hmm, are you sure there isn't a gnome power saving process in your process list?
[13:23] <xteejx> yucatan1991: Chances are you are trying to use the fglrx driver, which doesnt support such an old radeon, you will need to stick with the supplied open source ati drivers
[13:24] <nmvictor_> xteejx: thanks, guess i have less choice
[13:24] <iflema> asdff terminator
[13:24] <jiohdi> asdff, if there is how do I adjust it?
[13:24] <frostbite7> can anybody help me?
[13:24] <yucatan1991> xteejxx : how can i install that?
[13:24] <asdff> jihodi, you can terminate it via gnome-system-monitor
[13:24] <asdff> that is about all I can think of :P
[13:24] <xteejx> it should already be installed
[13:24] <Yfrwlf> yucatan1991: you don't
[13:24] <xteejx> !radeon > yucatan1991
[13:24] <asdff> iflema: why would you recommend terminator?
[13:24] <Yfrwlf> yucatan1991: it's already there and working
[13:25] <Yfrwlf> Does anyone know how to see a hidden program that is eating up memory? =P
[13:25] <xteejx> the fglrx binary only support 9800+ and the X series afaik
[13:25] <asdff> Yfrwlf: bash -> gnome-system-monitor &
[13:25] <asdff> process list
[13:25] <xteejx> top
[13:25] <arand> Yfrwlf: there are options in the system monitor to show all system applications
[13:25] <yucatan1991> so i cant get a bether driver the i have now?
[13:26] <iflema> asdff terminator can be split into several views on the one window
[13:26] <xteejx> yucatan1991: there's no need, the one you have should work perfectly fine, and besides ATI/AMD do not support your card anymore
[13:26] <asdff> iflema: that seems cool, but is it lightweight etc?
[13:26] <yucatan1991> so i cant get the highest graphics in my ubuntu?
[13:27] <Yfrwlf> asdff: I know that, it's hidden.  That's what I meant by hidden.  As in, it seems to truly, actually be hidden.  Showing all processes doesn't do it.  ps faux doesn't show it.  There is something eating 8MBs per every 5 seconds that does not show up.  It has to be in something which is not reporting memory use.
[13:27] <iflema> asdff its a terminal app..... yep
[13:27] <xteejx> yucatan1991: Would you really need to see subpixel level antialiased rendered detail on a document?
[13:27] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi what does this mean? Jan 20 14:26:00 myusername kernel: [  145.077393] ppdev0: registered pardevice
[13:27] <asdff> Yfrwlf: hmm I want to stick around and see the solution to your problem them :P. Sounds very mysterious lol
[13:28] <Yfrwlf> Currently, something is using 1.4GBs of RAM on my system, when system monitor > all processes only shows a total of about 300-400MBs.
[13:29] <Yfrwlf> and that is up from 800MBs since I've been sitting here watching.
[13:43] <Yfrwlf> Impy^: The driver it recommends and then downloads and installs for you is the Nvidia fglrx driver.  It might not be compatible with your monitor.  You might want to uninstall it with the Hardware Drivers tool, and see if the open source driver will show you the correct resolution.  You can also download and install the newer driver from Nvidia's site, or try modifying xorg.conf.  If you're new to Linux and Ubuntu though, I
[13:43] <noXandOs> Well, I am learning a little a day.
[13:43] <iflema> Impy^ are you aware of nvidia-settings control panel under the System/Admin desktop menu?
[13:43] <noXandOs> I don't feel totally helpless anymore.
[13:43] <B3rz3rk3r> lol
[13:43] <B3rz3rk3r> good to hear
[13:43] <Impy^> Yfrwlf how do i get the opensource driver? Yeah i'm aware of the nvidia settings things :)
[13:43] <usuario_> olaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[13:43] <xteejx> !es
[13:43] <usuario_> kienes soi
[13:43] <Yfrwlf> Impy^: Uninstalling the Nvidia driver using the Sys > Admin > Hardware Drivers tool will revert you back to the open source driver.
[13:43] <xteejx> !pt
[13:43] <epinky> !es | usuario_
[13:43] <IpSe_DiXiT> my pc just shut down by itself, what could it be?
[13:43] <xteejx> power outage?
[13:43] <greenlantern> What's the difference between umask=0002 and umask=002 ?
[13:44] <Yfrwlf> So if I cannot see a program that is eating up lots of memory on my computer, I've been rootkitted, or is there any way to have memory leaks outside a process? =P
[13:44] <frostbite7> hey goodmorning everyone
[13:44] <xteejx> hi frostbite7, appropriate name! hehe
[13:44] <arand> IpSe_DiXiT: A million things... You can look in the system logs from SYstem>>Administration>>Log Viewer and see if there are any clues
[13:44] <frostbite7> lol thanks
[13:45] <yareckon> hi guys, how can I tell dpkg that a program is not installed, if the remove keeps failing
[13:45] <frostbite7> hey does anyone know how to install the autumn leaves effect?
[13:45] <xteejx> ooo new kernel
[13:45] <yareckon> I want it to ruthelessly over write it :)
[13:45] <IpSe_DiXiT> arand: i did :D haven't found much but this [  145.260635] ppdev0: unregistered pardevice which i dunno what it is
[13:45] <Yfrwlf> frostbite7: are you talking about a Compiz theme?
[13:46] <Yfrwlf> er plugin
[13:46] <arand> IpSe_DiXiT: that is probably nothing related to crash, I guess...
[13:46] <frostbite7> i think its only a plugin
[13:46] <IpSe_DiXiT> arand: also this is my prob http://paste.ubuntu.com/359541/
[13:47] <Yfrwlf> frostbite7: If it's a Compiz 3D effects plugin of some sort, you should search on the site for that, there is some Compiz/Beryl/etc site for themes and plugins and whatnot.
[13:47] <Yfrwlf> probably several sites
[13:48] <xteejx> IpSe_DiXiT: If you have real problems with this, I would suggest filing a bug report, unless you were doing something unexpected that may have caused the halt
[13:48] <Yfrwlf> 1.5GBs of RAM used and continuing to count down. =P
[13:48] <iflema> Yfrwlf there is used, buffered ,cached and free.... note the cached and buffered.
[13:48] <arand> IpSe_DiXiT: well that just looks like the getdeb repository is down at the moment, you should shout at them ;)
[13:48] <Yfrwlf> er up
[13:48] <frostbite7> okay thanks yfrwlf
[13:48] <soreau> frostbite7: It is called elements and you can install it with the script found here (since ubuntu no longer provides the -unsupported plugins package) http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?f=114&t=12012&p=75601#p75601
[13:49] <xuanhen_> hi guys,when I boot my ubuntu ,i have 200 udevd ,each of them is 1.2M ,so my disk light is working all the time ,who can help me ?
[13:49] <Yfrwlf> iflema: both cached and buffers from the program "free" are steadily increasing.
[13:50] <MorphyNOR> lol
[13:50] <pif> hi, when attempting karmic netinstall on a Dell Inspirion 9300 latop I get a white screen after selecting "install", any idea?
[13:50] <MorphyNOR> Yfrwlf: think about what you just said for abit :P
[13:50] <pif> when trying expert install I get the same white screen when "enabling frame buffer"
[13:50] <frostbite7> okay thanks soreau
[13:50] <iflema> Yfrwlf this is ok.... some of this activity is for Qos.
[13:51] <IpSe_DiXiT> according to you guys, what is the best temperature sensor for ubuntu?
[13:51] <soreau> ! best
[13:52] <iflema> Yfrwlf basically if your free ram is insufficient for what your doing..... get more!
[13:52] <Crazymethjesus> shut the fuck up!!!
[13:52] <Crazymethjesus> fuckers!!!
[13:52] <DJones> !ops | Crazymethjesus
[13:52] <MorphyNOR> ohh nice, entertainment is here
[13:53] <Yfrwlf> iflema: when I boot up, I'm only using about 300-400MBs.  System monitor now shows 1.5GBs.  I eventually rebooted a few days ago, because it eventually started into using swap space, which is horribly slow.  MorphyNOR: k, done, still confused. ^^
[13:54] <Rahim> how to install grub legacy in Debian(testing) from a live cd?
[13:54] <Yfrwlf> iflema: 1.6GBs used and steadily continuing.  Luckily I have 4GBs of RAM, but still.
[13:55] <iflema> Yfrwlf so you boot and touch nothing and it climbs until it crashes....
[13:55] <coz_> Rahim,  not sure but it should be similar      http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/REINSTALL%20GRUB
[13:55] <Yfrwlf> iflema: No, I have not yet tried to see which program specifically is causing this "leak" or whatever it is.
[13:55] <yareckon> Rahim, #debian is not as full as it was this morning... ask over there
[13:55] <iflema> Yfrwlf if its swapping its filled the 4gig
[13:56] <Rahim> coz_: it wont find stage1 since grub2 is installed
[13:56] <freakynl> hi, q. I added a user and now he's on the gdm/kdm login list. I don't want him to show there, anyone know where to remove it? He can just type in his username
[13:56] <arand> Rahim: ask in #debian.. but I guess you just check the grub packages, see which one are the legacy version, install it, run "sudo grub" and the reinstall from the grub terminal as you would normally..
[13:56] <Rahim> is there a way to install grub from scratch?
[13:56] <coz_> Rahim,  oh!!  mm  maybe go to  #grub channel   I bet they have more info on this
[13:56] <DJones> !grub | Rahim
[13:56] <Rahim> ok
[13:57] <Rahim> let me give you a run down
[13:57] <Migi32> where does boost store its .a's or .so's after I do apt-get install libboost?
[13:57] <Rahim> i have ubuntu 9.04 with grub legacy setup along with other OS (debian), now i hav installed debian testing and i am unable to make an entry in ubuntu menu.lsy since there is no menu,lst in grub2
[13:58] <Yfrwlf> iflema: Yes I know, it did, and that's my next step though is to start a program and wait to see if it causes the "leak".
[13:58] <Oasa> guys..
[13:58] <iflema> Yfrwlf have you added apps from foreign repos/foreign source code.
[13:58] <soreau> ! grub2 | Rahim
[13:58] <Oasa> okay lisn i want to make a bot
[13:59] <Oasa> so that it will answer to some default questions in gtalk (using pidgin)
[13:59] <Oasa> help me out
[13:59] <Migi32> and why do we even have 1000 different directories for libraries? /lib, /usr/lib, /var/lib, /etc/lib, ... it's driving me cray
[13:59] <Migi32> crazy*
[13:59] <soreau> Oasa: That really has nothing to do with ubuntu
[13:59] <Oasa> so where do  i ask that soreau?
[13:59] <Oasa> can you help me anyways?
[13:59] <MorphyNOR> Oasa: #pidgin
[13:59] <Yfrwlf> iflema: Yes, so I will test and see if I can find out which program causes the leaking, I was just hoping that I was missing some way of seeing the process which is leaking, but apparently I'm blind to it.
[14:00] <sipior> Migi32: try "dpkg -L libboost"
[14:00] <puneeth> there's no audioplaybak on my computer
[14:01] <Markus> Hello. Need help installing Ubuntu 8.04
[14:01] <Karhu> can someone please tell me how i can log into a term instead of x ?
[14:02] <erUSUL> Karhu: just once? or everytime?
[14:02] <Karhu> just once
[14:02] <Yfrwlf> Karhu: control-alt-F1 through F6, F7 is X, F8-F12 are also available AFAIK.
[14:02] <soreau> Karhu: Use recovery mode?
[14:02] <erUSUL> Karhu: just "crtl + alt + f1"
[14:02] <pif> how do I install a pre-release version?
[14:02] <arand> Karhu: you always have the term through ctrl+alt+F2 (F7 to get back)
[14:02] <Karhu> ok thansk :-)
[14:02] <Karhu> thanks*
[14:03] <arand> pif: download the alpha or daily liveCD
[14:03] <yucatan1991> where can i select options to get better image in ubuntu
[14:03] <Migi32> sipior, well it was actually libboost-dev and not libboost, but apparently it only installed a "copyright" and a "changelog.gz" file?!
[14:03] <arand> !lucid | pif
[14:03] <pif> arand: do you have an URL?
[14:03] <yucatan1991> i know there is a menu for it with 4 options if i can remember i'm not sure
[14:04] <Hirager> Hey, is there any way to enforce resolution CHANGE trough terminal?
[14:04] <soreau> yucatan1991: sys>prefs>display ?
[14:04] <puneeth> cany anyone help me? i need help with audioplayback. i cant hear anything... no music, nothing :(
[14:04] <Hirager> FVWM window manager
[14:04] <soreau> Hirager: You can use xrandr..
[14:04] <Hirager> I tried, but I am not able to change it
[14:04] <arand> pif: I could google it, but so could you ;)
[14:04] <soreau> ! audio | puneeth
[14:05] <sipior> Migi32: there are a large number of packages brought in by installing libboost-dev. try looking at them. or use find. or pkg-config.
[14:05] <Hirager> xrandr -- newmode and xrandr --addmode don't help
[14:05] <Karhu> i tried doing ctrl-alt-f1 but im trying to install a driver and it still says i appear to be running an x server so it wont install
[14:05] <soreau> ! who | Hirager
[14:05] <soreau> ! nvidia | Karhu
[14:06] <Oasa> !tab ubottu
[14:06] <Oasa> !tab Oasa
[14:06] <Migi32> sipior, how do I see which packages libboost-dev installed?
[14:06] <Hirager> !tab soreau
[14:06] <Hirager> test
[14:06] <Hirager> no
[14:06] <kaolbrec> Hirager: it meant just start typing the name, then press tab
[14:06] <Hirager> !who soreau
[14:07] <Markus> hello. I try to install Ubuntu8.04 on notebook Lenovo SL510. When it start to load "graphics mode" there is no picture. I can see just some kind of garbage on screen.What to do?
[14:07] <kaolbrec> Hirager: need a pipe there
[14:07] <soreau> Hirager: First, which video card do you have?
[14:07] <Hirager> soreau, test
[14:07] <Hirager> NVIDIA 7300 GT
[14:08] <soreau> Hirager: Then you probably want to use nvidia-settings to change the resolution or set it in your xorg.conf
[14:08] <nerdy_kid> hi everyone! is it a good idea to link files in my $HOME dir to roots home?  want to like my .kde folder.
[14:08] <soreau> nerdy_kid: That is a bad idea, dont even try it
[14:08] <Hirager> soreau: The thing is that my spare cable i use, doesn't send info about monitor.
[14:09] <yucatan1991> soreau: no something else
[14:09] <nerdy_kid> soreau :( causes permission frying huh.  no way to prevent root from changing the permisions?
[14:09] <yucatan1991> not the resolution but about the quality
[14:09] <soreau> Hirager: Have you tried setting the resolution you want in nvidia-settings?
[14:09] <yucatan1991> the lowist options is only available if u have a good driver
[14:10] <yucatan1991> somewith with the graphics
[14:10] <frostbite7> lol i appreciate your helping me soreau but the site didn't help do you have any alternatives?
[14:10] <Hirager> soreau: Yes, there are only 2 resolution. I have FullHD monitor
[14:10] <obiwan_> guys, i just woke up and my ubuntu screen is like zoomed, i can't see my whole screen at once, i need to move the mouse over it. Do you know what did i touch? i felt asleep on the keyboard and don't know ):
[14:10] <soreau> frostbite7: Why did it not help?
[14:10] <Hirager> logo+scroll
[14:10] <Hirager> mouse scroll
[14:10] <obiwan_> nice hah thanx hirager
[14:11] <yucatan1991> i'm looking for this screen. http://www.techotopia.com/images/4/4a/Ubuntu_visual_effects_settings.jpg
[14:11] <obiwan_> i tried ctrl + scroll which is the normal in apps
[14:11] <soreau> Hirager: I guess you can ask in #nvidia, Im not sure
[14:11] <obiwan_> didn't thought about logo :P
[14:11] <Karhu> the binarydriverhowto doesnt seem to cover installing legacy nvidia drivers with ubuntu 9.10
[14:11] <soreau> Karhu: Did you check sys>admin>hardware drivers?
[14:12] <frostbite7> lol i don't know. i ranit in the terminal as instructed but the plugins cant be found
 yeah i did no luck there i tried envyng too but that dosnt seem to help either
[14:12] <Hirager> I am sure the prblem lies in cable, not card, because it started after change of cable
[14:12] <sipior> Migi32: try "apt-cache depends"
[14:13] <soreau> frostbite7: Did it successfully compile and install the plugins? Did you restart compiz and ccsm as it instructed?
[14:14] <arand> yucatan1991: right-click desktop, change background, and there's your dialogue
[14:15] <yucatan1991> arand: i wanne change it to extra but if i enable that
[14:15] <yucatan1991> it say could not enable
[14:15] <yucatan1991> how can i fix that
[14:15] <yucatan1991> i have a ati radeon hd 3650
[14:16] <arand> yucatan1991: that's video accelerated drivers not being enabled.
[14:16] <frostbite7> lol i dnt know. do i first copy the code and then restart compiz ?
[14:16] <soreau> frostbite7: If you actually read the guide, it tells you exactly what you need to do
[14:17] <GutZuWiSSeN> are there any ERM - tools / editors for ubuntu?
[14:17] <yucatan1991> u mean the fglrx driver?
[14:17] <localh0st> Hello, how could i connect my ubuntu livecd via ethernet with my windows 7 on second computer?
[14:17] <erUSUL> yucatan1991: use the free driver (either radeon or radeonhd ) ?
[14:17] <yucatan1991> how i should do that
[14:18] <localh0st> is it avainable to share files on livecd?
[14:18] <erUSUL> localh0st: assing manually valid ips/netmasks in both computers
[14:18] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[14:18] <yucatan1991> arUSUL how should i do that
[14:18] <frostbite7> lol cool. thanks. if it isn't to much trouble could i have the link again?
[14:18] <epinky> localh0st: just configure an ip and use smb://you.wiindows.machine.ip on nautilus
[14:19] <soreau> frostbite7: It is called elements and you can install it with the script found here (since ubuntu no longer provides the -unsupported plugins package) http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?f=114&t=12012&p=75601#p75601
[14:19] <SpaceBass> setting up a dual boot box from scratch. Want to be able to boot the XP partition as a VM from inside ubunut. What's the install order? Windows first or Ubunut first?
[14:19] <freakynl> localh0st: if you can internet, probably no need, dhcp will have already assigned ip's to your machines
[14:19] <localh0st> epinky: is it working in idle default? my version of ubuntu is 7.10..
[14:19] <elvios> :SpaceBAss: I think you're always supposed to install windows first..
[14:19] <erUSUL> yucatan1991: probably you are alredy using radeon driver... do you see performance problems ?
[14:19] <SpaceBass> elvios: thanks
[14:20] <yucatan1991> no but i wanne set soem visual effect.
[14:20] <elvios> SpaceBass: but not sure if you want the VM-thingy
[14:20] <epinky> localh0st: check if you have an ip opening a terminal and typing "ifconfig -a"
[14:20] <yucatan1991> and if i do that it say Deskttop effect cold not be enabled
[14:20] <elvios> SpaceBass: If you only want windows as a VM I think you should only install ubuntu, and then install windows via VirtualBox or whatever program you're using
[14:21] <localh0st> epinky: i would connect my ubuntu livecd to windows 7 machine- i want copy my files from dead os
[14:21] <soreau> yucatan1991: Do you see a driver in sys>admin>hardware drivers?
[14:21] <SpaceBass> elvios: I need it as a physicial box and VM ... otherwise I'd agree 100%
[14:21] <yucatan1991> yeah\
[14:21] <soreau> yucatan1991: Did you install it?
[14:21] <SpaceBass> elvios: its a new, fresh HD, I'll expirement and find out :D
[14:21] <yucatan1991> soreau: i see thefglrx driver
[14:21] <yucatan1991> yeah
[14:22] <freakynl> SpaceBass: good luck, xp doesn't like changes in hardware very much
[14:22] <yucatan1991> but if i do that my ubuntu wont boot up anymore
[14:22] <SpaceBass> freakynl: hoping I can use hardware profiles to get around that
[14:22] <yucatan1991> then my ubuntu starts and i only see is a black flashing screen
[14:22] <elvios> SpaceBass: Ah. So windows should be installed properly but accessible from inside ubuntu? I have no idea how to do that :D
[14:22] <yucatan1991> a flashing console
[14:22] <freakynl> SpaceBass: maybe, you probably will have to keep the hals the same
[14:22] <epinky> localh0st: then I'd recommend configuring SSHd on LiveCD and use WinSCP on Windows Side to copy to your 7 disk
[14:22] <soreau> yucatan1991: Oh well I guess fglrx sucks :P How many monitors/screens do you have plugged in to the graphics card?
[14:23] <SpaceBass> freakynl: good point. Thanks. and thanks elvios as well!
[14:23] <freakynl> SpaceBass: order doesn't really matter, if you install linux first, then windows, you will have to recover grub mbr. the other way around you will have to restore windows bootsector in some cases
[14:23] <yucatan1991> one
[14:23] <yucatan1991> its a laptop
[14:23] <yucatan1991> a IBM t500
[14:23] <soreau> yucatan1991: Which version of ubuntu is this?
[14:23] <BillyBoy> well.. nice.. here are living people :).. need advice with configuration of php and extensions on ubuntu-server channel it seems everyone is sleeping can i ask here?
[14:23] <localh0st> epinky: thanks
[14:23] <yucatan1991> IBM Lenovo T500
[14:23] <yucatan1991> how i can see that?
[14:24] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: lsb_releasa -a
[14:24] <IdleOne> will tell you the version
[14:24] <BillyBoy> need little help, don't know how to start php extensions gd-bundled and imagemagick library.. could someone help me? show me the way?
[14:24] <soreau> yucatan1991: lsb_release -a
[14:25] <yucatan1991> ubuntu 9.10 karmic
[14:25] <freakynl> BillyBoy: isn't installing and then restarting apache enough? It shoud suffice iirc
[14:25] <IdleOne> BillyBoy: try #php also :)
[14:25] <SPeck84> Hi
[14:25] <ugliefrog> is the ubuntu-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent the live cd
[14:26] <llutz> ugliefrog: no
[14:26] <IdleOne> ugliefrog: no
[14:26] <rayve> hi all, I was asking the other day about a sound issue - I've now upgraded to 9.10, still only sound in Rhythmbox, nothing in Youtube or with WoW in wine. Pulse says it doesn't detect any hardware, and the Sound preferences window is different than it was in 9.04
[14:26] <yucatan1991> soreau:?
[14:26] <soreau> yucatan1991: Well the good news is that the open driver now has 3D support for your card. The bad news is it didnt make it into the 9.10 release so you would have to install packages from the xorg-edgers repo
[14:26] <IdleOne> ugliefrog: the desktop is livecd
[14:26] <BillyBoy> freakynl nope..
[14:26] <BillyBoy> IdleOne ok thx
[14:26] <freakynl> BillyBoy: worked for me, quite sure about it
[14:26] <ugliefrog> ok...thanks...live is what i need
[14:26] <SPeck84> Somebody can help with me in a Samba
[14:26] <SPeck84> I can't configure
[14:26] <usuario_> Olaa
[14:27] <perlsyntax> does ubuntu have boadcom drivers?
[14:27] <yucatan1991> soreau what u mean can u help me with this?
[14:27] <ouyes> what a mess
[14:27] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,
[14:27] <yucatan1991> soreau : what should i install and from witch repo
[14:27] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know where i can get my wireless card driver on ubuntu?
[14:27] <IdleOne> !broadcom | perlsyntax
[14:27] <perlsyntax> yes
[14:27] <kiwiman> hello what's up !
[14:28] <SPeck84> kiwiman are u a hungarian?
[14:28] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, ahh you're here, umm I checked the lspci -nnk output, your hardware is a fairly recent build, so I can't see how fglrx wouldn't work but Xorg.0.log may show something useful imo
[14:28] <dryfire> kik
[14:28] <soreau> yucatan1991: Actually I use gentoo so I dont know exactly how to install the xorg-edgers repo, but from what I understand, you just add it and update your system. If you would like, you might find support for this in #radeon
[14:28] <dryfire> kikikik
[14:28] <dryfire> lololololo
[14:28] <dryfire> lkikikikikik
[14:28] <dryfire> lolololol
[14:28] <kiwiman> SPeck84: no only French :D
[14:28] <SPeck84> ok
[14:28] <SPeck84> Kiwiman can you help my
[14:29] <yucatan1991> maby can u explane a bit more what i need to do
[14:29] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  you mean fglrx should work well?
[14:29] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers <---make sure that is correct
[14:29] <kiwiman> SPeck84: it's not the right way to say hello :) ??
[14:30] <kiwiman> SPeck84: about ??
[14:30] <soreau> yucatan1991: Well you need to know what a repo is and how to add one in general first.. let me see if I can find a lonk to xorg-edgers
[14:30] <nouga> Hi ! on Karmic, the system sounds via bell (internal beeper) doesn't work, only trough the sound chip !!
[14:30] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, I can't vouch for it because I don't have that hardware, but I can't see why not, upon searching vid:pid of your device, many were asking about compiz, so I'd say yes fglrx should be working without issues, you're running 9.10 right?
[14:31] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  il try it again by active it in the hardware driver
[14:31] <mirkuz83> !list
[14:31] <SPeck84> kiwiman about Samba configure
[14:31] <nouga> more : Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[14:31] <LuciusMare> hello, how i used kubuntu,and i set it to encrypt my home directory, now i migrated to another system,  how do i unecrypt it?
[14:31] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, no
[14:31] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  i am running 9.04
[14:32] <soreau> yucatan1991: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[14:32] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, I'd check whilst in GUI (unless you're familiar with CLI and can bear with it) the Xorg.0.log for some info
[14:32] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, hmm
[14:32] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  what can i do
[14:33] <diego_> ola
[14:33] <diego_> olaqtal
[14:33] <epinky> !es | diego_
[14:33] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, well I'd check the error logs, Xorg.0.log first. You said you have previously activated the driver right? and so if it fails, etc it should be logged into Xorg.0.log, in /var/log
[14:33] <diego_> ¿?
[14:33] <soreau> ourizo_: What card do you have?
[14:33] <diego_> olaa
[14:34] <soreau> damn it
[14:34] <diego_> qe de qe??
[14:34] <diego_> whats?
[14:34] <soreau> ouyes: Which card model do you have?
[14:34] <diego_> the algo card
[14:34] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  i tried in the hardy both the  official driver and the flgrx
[14:35] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, hardy would be ancient :) nah I was looking at koala
[14:35] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[14:35] <nouga> Hi ! on Karmic, the system sounds via bell (internal beeper) doesn't work, only trough the sound chip !!
[14:35] <nouga> more : Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[14:35] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: after that sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:35] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  8.04LST, i have not tried in 9.04 because i am afraid
[14:35] <calrik> is it deliberate the fact I can not access network shares in nuatilus when I run nautilus with "sudo" ?
[14:36] <epinky> !gksudo | calrik
[14:36] <psycho_oreos> soreau, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d32553bfe
[14:36] <Threetimes> Hi, I have gdm-2.20 on karmic. How do I enable guest session?
[14:36] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, well the fglrx is claimed to work in 9.10 (karmic koala)
[14:37] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  how about the hardy?
[14:37] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  what about the hardy?
[14:37] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, I never tried fglrx driver but if its a wrapper like nvidia's proprietary driver, you might be able to compile it manually (via new linux driver) and old kernel sources to get it working
[14:37] <soreau> ouyes: Why are you trying to use hardy? Why not 9.10?
[14:37] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, haven't searched on hardy
[14:37] <nyaa> hi, I was wondering if anyone can give me the name of a channel that deals with building computers
[14:37] <freakynl> nyaa: try #hardware
[14:37] <nyaa> cool, thanks
[14:38] <calrik> epinky: sweet thanks
[14:39] <ahabman> I'm trying to script swapping out /etc/X11/xorg.conf (to add another monitor). Is there a way to reload or restart X server without logging out?
[14:39] <xteejx> Is anyone testing Lucid with System Testing yet? If not I'd suggest doing it before Alpha 4 in about 6 weeks, so any future problems can be ironed out ASAP
[14:39] <yucatan1991> idleOne: if i do sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers i get command not found
[14:39] <ouyes> soreau, i like the ADD/Remove function with stars to make a choice, and i hope it has a good stability(so the 8.04 is my first choice, by the avalibility is low)
[14:39] <xteejx> yucatan1991: Use Software Sources in System>Admin
[14:39] <nouga> ahabman, ctrl+back-arrow
[14:39] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, and I would personally also start asking (agreeing with what soreau suggested) why use 8.04? such new hardware would probably be well benefited under later version
[14:39] <elvios> ahabman: I think ctrl + alt + backspace will do the trick.
[14:40] <Threetimes> Hi, I have gdm-2.20 on karmic. How do I enable guest session?
[14:40] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: sudo add-apt-repository perhaps I switched apt and add ;/
[14:40] <ouyes> soreau,  never mind , hopefully the 10.04 will save me among all of the releases
[14:40] <soreau> ouyes: Yes, you have a relatively newer card. So it is only logical to use a newer version of ubuntu
[14:40] <nouga> ahabman: I think ctrl + alt + backspace then /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[14:40] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: also it's ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[14:41] <xteejx> ouyes: You can test 10.04 now it's pretty much stable, this will give a good indication of whether you will have any problems. You can use a LiveCD
[14:41] <BillyBoy> huh... #php is overloaded? or it requires registration?
[14:41] <konam> does somebody here knows how to change the title/header of a pdf file?
[14:41] <nouga> Hi ! on Karmic, the system sounds via bell (internal beeper) doesn't work, only trough the sound chip !!
[14:41] <nouga> more : Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[14:41] <ouyes> soreau, psycho_oreos  not the newer ,the better, i do not like the 9.10( the gnome is ugly
[14:41] <xteejx> BillyBoy: It's ##php
[14:41] <BillyBoy> ahh thx
[14:41] <hackeur21> bonjour
[14:41] <xteejx> :)
[14:41] <epinky> !fr | hackeur21
[14:42] <xteejx> !fr
[14:42] <xteejx> hehe
[14:42] <hackeur21> ok
[14:42] <ouyes> xteejx,  but the final release is still on the way
[14:42] <BillyBoy> xteejx overflow :)
[14:42] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, though 9.10 seems to support your video chipset, which would be a bit less of a headache imo than dealing with compiling your own packages, etc
[14:42] <IdleOne> !register | BillyBoy
[14:42] <gQuash> hello there. Newbie question here =( . Can I download ubuntu-desktop to and USB and then install it to an ubuntu server ?
[14:42] <xteejx> ouyes, yes, but testing is done in the alpha stage, you can use a LiveCD without changing any stuff on your hard drive, and will give a good idea if your hardware will be fully supported
[14:43] <ouyes> psycho_oreos,  what is imo stand for?
[14:43] <yucatan1991> idleone it dont work
[14:43] <IdleOne> gQuash: ubuntu-server is already installed?
[14:43] <xteejx> ouyes, in my opinion = imo
[14:43] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, in my opinion
[14:43] <nouga> ouyes, imo = in my opinion
[14:43] <yucatan1991> i get gpg: requestion key 8844c542 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[14:43] <ouyes> xteejx,   i see , en where to download the latest version of 10.4
[14:44] <yucatan1991> and it stays on that...
[14:44] <gQuash> IdleOne: Yeap ... I did it yesterday. But my connection it's too slow too download the desktop from here...
[14:44] <ouyes> xteejx,  i can not help to try it
[14:44] <Threetimes> Hi, I have gdm-2.20 on karmic. How do I enable guest session?
[14:44] <elyos> gQuash if your server supports usb boot, and if you extract the data from the download iso, yes
[14:44] <xteejx> ouyes, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/lucid/alpha2
[14:44] <xteejx> ouyes, it won't change anything on your system unless you choose to install it (not recommended)
[14:44] <ouyes> xteejx, psycho_oreos,nouga thanks  my poor english
[14:44] <IdleOne> gQuash: I think you can download the alternate cd and then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. you will need to add the cd as a repository to your sources.list
[14:45] <nouga> Hi ! on Karmic, the system sounds via bell (internal beeper) doesn't work, only trough the sound chip !!
[14:45] <nouga> more : Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
[14:45] <freakynl> gQuash: have a look at unetbootin. it's beyond me why you'd install desktop to server though, unless you want to make server hardware a desktop. there's a server version
[14:45] <psycho_oreos> ouyes, well its not exactly your poor English is to blame.. imo is just a general internet short words :)
[14:45] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: ok. it is working. wait for it to finish
[14:45] <ouyes> xteejx,  i know that  i am not a brand new newbie i use ubuntu since 8.04 m,  il make a usb start to try it  thanks
[14:46] <xteejx> ouyes, don't worry, some English can't speak English ;)
[14:46] <xteejx> ouyes: You can use a LiveCD if you have any CDR / RW
[14:46] <xteejx> its easier
[14:46] <gQuash> freakynl: Well... I didn't know that was a server version, I downloaded but to my 2 PC desktop and server. But I'm not good enough on terminal =S so I really need the GUI, It's for learning purposes
[14:47] <yucatan1991> idleone its finished now
[14:47] <yucatan1991> what should i do next
[14:47] <yucatan1991> ?
[14:47] <xteejx> gQuash: You can have a normal Ubuntu installation with the server stuff as well to make things easier, just install ubuntu-server once Ubuntu is installed
[14:47] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:47] <freakynl> gQuash: the difference is mainly in packages afaik. but i seldom use ubuntu :D. server doesn't install gui by default etc. unetbootin should do what you want tho'
[14:48] <IdleOne> xteejx: -server is installed he wants to add ubuntu-desktop
[14:48] <xteejx> Well that's easy enough
[14:48] <ouyes> xteejx,  make a usb start will be even simpler, do not you think so? i have a cdr , but why a waste to burn one? il wait the final release and customize one for myself
[14:48] <xteejx> ouyes: Of course, that's not a problem if that's easier for you :)
[14:48] <gQuash> well my problem it's the download... So I'll download the package at work
[14:48] <gQuash> and the come home and install it
[14:49] <xteejx> gQuash: I'd then suggest using aptoncd :)
[14:49] <yucatan1991> Idleone: its upgradeing so i'm waiting
[14:49] <ouyes> xteejx, it is easier and money-save way, and it is fun,
[14:49] <nouga> Hi ! on Karmic, the system sounds via bell (internal beeper) doesn't work, only trough the sound chip !! each time connect and disconect with giant clic
[14:49] <xteejx> ouyes: hehe :)
[14:49] <xteejx> nouga: Check your sound settings, ensure system beep is turned up
[14:49] <GG19> I love the terminal and cat command I was trying for like 2hrs to change an .ico to a .svg so I can put icons on my wine programs and as new folder images but I couldn't do it not even with a icon creator program I almost gave up till I was thinking about how you can hide a zip file inside an image and wondered if I could use that function but just rename it with the cat command and it worked infact it works for images to .svg as well I
[14:49] <GG19> 'm so happy :)
[14:50] <IdleOne> gQuash: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package, it pulls in a bunch of other packages. so downloading just ubuntu-desktop to usb won't be enough
[14:50] <xteejx> Gone
[14:50] <IdleOne> darn
[14:50] <ouyes> xteejx,  you know what  , you can use the usb start driver to boot almost any computer
[14:50] <nouga> xteejx, no system sound on settings
[14:50] <xteejx> ouyes: I know :D
[14:50] <xteejx> nouga: Then chances are you may have a problem with the kernel detecting sound cards, etc. Please file a bug report
[14:51] <nouga> xteejx, Gee !
[14:51] <ahabman> nouga: thanks, but both ctrl + alt + backspace  and  /etc/init.d/gdm restart  log me out.  No way to stay logged in?
[14:51] <xteejx> nouga: Use ubuntu-bug to go through step by step
[14:51] <ouyes> xteejx,  i personnally have two laptop and a pc, so it is very useful to take a try via a usb start driver
[14:51] <xteejx> nouga: Or ubuntu-bug linux
[14:51] <nouga> ahabman, no ;(
[14:51] <airtonix> GG19, gthumb opens .ico files. you can then save as png
[14:51] <llutz> ahabman: you cannot restart X without being logged out
[14:52] <ahabman> nouga: okey dokey, thanks for the answer
[14:52] <ouyes> hei hei, does anybody know how to get the ati VGA card of my thinkpad t400 work?
[14:52] <xteejx> ouyes: Same here hehe but yes, whichever is easiest for you. Although if you're going to use a USB, it may be better to do a persistent install on the USB drive, so you can run a real Lucid system with updates :)
[14:52] <ahabman> llutz: thanks, thats the answer I was looking for.
[14:52] <nouga> ahabman, the session is opened throuh gdm = xserver
[14:53] <ouyes> xteejx,  i use the unetbootin to create a usb ,
[14:53] <xteejx> ouyes: The ATI card doesn't work at all?
[14:53] <CAPcap> how do i add a shortcut button to my Apps menu?
[14:53] <ouyes> xteejx,  yes and i am running 9.04
[14:53] <nouga> By every man
[14:54] <xteejx> ouyes: Hmm.... what model?
[14:54] <perlsyntax> All i need is b43-fwcutter for my broadcom to worlk i take it
[14:54] <perlsyntax> :)
[14:55] <perlsyntax> i hope i right.
[14:55] <LuciusMare> ohai
[14:55] <perlsyntax> IdleOne i take  i am right.
[14:55] <LuciusMare> what software does the kubuntu use to encrypt my home?
[14:55] <ouyes> VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series [1002:95c4]
[14:56] <xteejx> ouyes: quite new then........hmm
[14:56] <IdleOne> perlsyntax: I don't know but I hope so :) that wiki page should be able to help you figure it out
[14:56] <ouyes> xteejx, VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series [1002:95c4] this is the lspci -nnk output
[14:56] <kevin1093> i have sucsessfully instaled ubuntu server onto my maxtor 30 gig hd and now when i try to boot up i get to grub, then i select my operating system, but then it restarts. can anyone help me
[14:56] <xteejx> hmm
[14:57] <CAPcap> excuse me, How would I go about making a Shortcut button on my Apps menu, specifically the Internet submenu. Ubuntu 9.10
[14:57] <perlsyntax> it my dad laptop try to get linux on it so he don't have to worry about the virus.
[14:57] <xteejx> ouyes: You're going to need the fglrx binary driver, the open source will not work with that card
[14:57] <xteejx> !ati > ouyes
[14:57] <soreau> xteejx: Actually, the open source driver does support it now
[14:57] <soreau> But certainly not on hardy
[14:57] <xteejx> Does it? Oh..
[14:58] <xteejx> He's using Intrepid I believe
[14:58] <soreau> xteejx: Yes, the open driver has 3D support for r6-7xx ards now, upstream and he said he is using hardy
[14:58] <kevin1093> i have sucsessfully instaled ubuntu server onto my maxtor 30 gig hd and now when i try to boot up i get to grub, then i select my operating system, but then it restarts. can anyone help me
[14:58] <xteejx> Oh dear
[14:59] <ouyes> xteejx,  i am now worried to ues that driver because it failed in the 8.04 and i turned to 9.04
[14:59] <soreau> xteejx: I believe this is why he is having trouble with fglrx, because the version that it installs is too old
[14:59] <xteejx> soreau: Could be
[14:59] <xteejx> I don't think these things are backported either, so enabling that won't make a difference
[14:59] <yucatan1991> Idleone its done
[14:59] <yucatan1991> what should i do now
[15:00] <soreau> xteejx: So maybe installing it manually might help, but he would have to find just the right version and it would be much easier to upgrade ubuntu but apparently that is not one of the options he is willing to consider
[15:00] <soreau> yucatan1991: Did it install a kernel btw?
[15:00] <yucatan1991> i dont know
[15:00] <yucatan1991> i dont think so
[15:00] <soreau> yucatan1991: Didnt you pay attention? :P
[15:00] <yucatan1991> how can i check that
[15:00] <yucatan1991> no:P
[15:00] <yucatan1991> i let him walk
[15:00] <yucatan1991> i was away
[15:00] <FloodBot1> yucatan1991: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:00] <xteejx> ouyes, I would suggest, again trying the LiveCD / USB option for a later version, and test.
[15:00] <soreau> heh
[15:01] <occy> hmmm for some reason I can't seem to get my CD burner to work on my laptop.  M6400 Dell Precision
[15:01] <occy> Ubuntu 9.10
[15:01] <soreau> yucatan1991: Can you pastebin the output of dpkg -l|grep linux-image ?
[15:02] <yucatan1991> hmm thats a little hard
[15:02] <yucatan1991> because my irc and my ubuntu machine are 2 different machines
[15:02] <soreau> yucatan1991: No it isnt, just run it like any other command in your terminal. The | character is the one above your enter key
[15:03] <yucatan1991> okee sec
[15:03] <laeg> !ssh
[15:03] <soreau> yucatan1991: Then paste it to pastebin.com and show the link here
[15:03] <ouyes> xteejx,  it will take some time to install softwares il stay with 9.04 and wait for the 10.04 of April but try the alpa
[15:03] <laeg> !sshd
[15:03] <ouyes> xteejx, alpha
[15:05] <rahul__> i want to access my nokia N70 via usb... i m a kubuntu user and quite new to it. Plz help
[15:05] <LuciusMare> what software does the kubuntu use to encrypt my home?
[15:05] <yucatan1991> http://pastebin.com/m1402cfc
[15:05] <erUSUL> LuciusMare: ecryptfs
[15:06] <LuciusMare> erUSUL: thanks
[15:06] <yucatan1991> soreau: thats the link
[15:07] <Dontkillme> Hello. I acciedenly wiped my hard disc and lost my linux. Is there a way to get it back?
[15:08] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, how did you wipe your HDD?
[15:08] <soreau> yucatan1991: Ok, cool. Now make sure you have completely uninstalled the fglrx driver in sys>admin>hardware drivers
[15:08] <soreau> yucatan1991: you cannot have any fglrx package installed or else the open driver wont work for 3D
[15:08] <Dontkillme> MrUnix: With Paragon Disk Wiper - I wanted to test it...
[15:08] <rahul__> i want to access my nokia N70 via usb... i m a kubuntu user and quite new to it. Plz help.............
[15:09] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, you did a full wipe?
[15:09] <yucatan1991> soreau there is standing driver it not activated
[15:09] <yucatan1991> so i think it not installed.
[15:09] <Dontkillme> MrUnix: Yes. I wanted to test the program.
[15:09] <soreau> yucatan1991: If there is no output to this command, you should be good: dpkg -l|grep fglrx
[15:10] <airtonix> Dontkillme, no.
[15:10] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, then you're going to need a pristinely clean electronics lab, a very powerful electron microscope, and a team of top-notch forensic's experts.
[15:10] <kinja-sheep> Dontkillme: I'll say you lost everything. :\
[15:10] <Dontkillme> Oh
[15:10] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, Do you know about applications such as Virtualbox?
[15:10] <Dontkillme> MrUnix: No
[15:10] <airtonix> Dontkillme, lesson for today : look before you leap. think before you press red buttons.
[15:11] <LuciusMare> wow
[15:11] <soreau> yucatan1991: After verifying no fglrx packages are installed, reboot your computer. Finger crossing is optional :)
[15:11] <LuciusMare> i just ecryptfs-mount-privated my home
[15:11] <airtonix> LuciusMare, you can find wow related help on #wowuidev
[15:11] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, well now consider you've learned a lesson. Don't experiment on your own HDD. When you reinstall Linux make sure you download Virtualbox or some similar application and test stuff there.
[15:11] <yucatan1991> soreau: http://pastebin.com/m25993c73
[15:11] <kinja-sheep> airtonix: And make interval backups. :)
[15:11] <LuciusMare> it loaded successefully,i can read everything,but the folder names are still gibberish
[15:11] <soreau> yucatan1991: Oh, you need to remove all of those packages
[15:12] <LuciusMare> well
[15:12] <yucatan1991> how can i do that
[15:12] <LuciusMare> names of EVERYTHING are gibberish
[15:12] <yucatan1991> just apt-get remove?
[15:12] <airtonix> !enter | LuciusMare
[15:12] <soreau> yucatan1991: Yes
[15:12] <Dontkillme> MrUnix: Oh, I only wanted to test the program... My HDD was full with programs... Does my hard drive get heavier when I put more data on it?
[15:13] <airtonix> Dontkillme, inb4 troll
[15:13] <Karhu> hi guys..whats the difference between ubuntu 8.04 and 8.10 ?
[15:13] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, I don't understand - you mean physically?
[15:13] <Dontkillme> MrUnix: Yes, I do.
[15:13] <LuciusMare> Karhu: version
[15:13] <rahul__> i want to access my nokia N70 via usb... i m a kubuntu user and quite new to it. Plz help me
[15:13] <IdleOne> Dontkillme: you can always use xfce or lxde which are lighter
[15:13] <soreau> lol
[15:13] <erUSUL> Karhu: also 8.04 is LTS
[15:13] <ouyes> xteejx, which do you prefer? xubuntu or the ubuntu ( xfce or the gnome)
[15:13] <IdleOne> soreau: you liked that huh :)
[15:14] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, well data stored on an HDD is essentially electromagnetic pulses so - no.
[15:14] <soreau> IdleOne: Nice ;)
[15:14]  * airtonix makes the sound of a wosshing airplane going over IdleOnes head
[15:14] <MrUnix> IdleOne, that made me lol
[15:14] <soreau> airstr1ke: Quite the contrary as you must have missed it ;)
[15:14] <soreau> damn this channel
[15:15] <Dontkillme> Where're all my files? I need them back...
[15:15] <ikonia> soreau: calm down please
[15:15] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, Paragon will have written over them completely. They no longer exist.
[15:15] <kinja-sheep> Dontkillme: You WWIII your files.
[15:15] <airtonix> Dontkillme, seriously ? after a hardrive wipe you still fully expect to recover your files ?
[15:16] <MrUnix> airtonix, it's possible if it was only one or two passes with a static pattern.
[15:16]  * airtonix still thinks Dontkillme is a troll.
[15:16] <LuciusMare> Hawkey: nazdar
[15:16] <IdleOne> Dontkillme: you erased them all when you did your test. you have deleted them all.
[15:16] <MrUnix> airtonix, he just needs a lot of money and some powerful equipment.
[15:16] <Dontkillme> Oh no...
[15:16] <LuciusMare> like,two millions and a lab
[15:16] <LuciusMare> more or less
[15:16] <IdleOne> MrUnix: that is an option not available to most, not even worth mentioning
[15:16] <MrUnix> Don't forget the very powerful electron microscope
[15:16] <yucatan1991> soreau: okee i did remove them
[15:17] <Hawkey> LuciusMare hi
[15:17] <yucatan1991> soreau: should i reboot now or do i need to do something else?
[15:17] <soreau> yucatan1991: Alright, so dpkg -l|grep fglrx is showing nothing now?
[15:17] <MrUnix> IdleOne, it might apply to him. He could be a closet millionaire.
[15:17] <yucatan1991> soreau there are still tree entry's
[15:17] <yucatan1991> if i hit it
[15:17] <soreau> yucatan1991: Or at least, nothing with ii next to the name
[15:18] <Dontkillme> Is there a way to get at least my operating system back?
[15:18] <ikonia> Dontkillme: no
[15:18] <IdleOne> Dontkillme: yes, get the cd and install
[15:18] <soreau> heh
[15:18] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, Apart from the electron microscope? Reinstallation
[15:18] <llutz> Dontkillme: fresh install + restore backup, [x] done
[15:18] <yucatan1991> soreau: if i do again sdo apt-get uinstall i get is not installed so not removed.
[15:18] <Dontkillme> Oh, okay. Thanks, I'll try it.
[15:18] <airtonix> Dontkillme, this time round when you install, put have your  home folder on a separate partition to your system core
[15:19] <MrUnix> airtonix, that won't stop an HDD wipe from reaching it.
[15:19] <llutz> so nfs-home
[15:19] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, lesson of the day - testing stuff on your HDD != win.
[15:19] <yucatan1991> soreau: so whats next now?
[15:19] <CAPcap> How do i add a shortcut button to Applications > Internet?
[15:19] <soreau> yucatan1991: Good. Go ahead and reboot then try to enable desktop effects
[15:20] <Dontkillme> MrUnix: It's the 4th time since I've got this computer
[15:20] <airtonix> CAPcap, from where ?
[15:20] <llutz> pebkac
[15:20] <Karhu> whats less resource hungry out gnome and kde ?
[15:20] <quarkup> ho any1 using kde4 ?
[15:20] <IdleOne> heh
[15:20] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, I've rebuilt an OS on this computer I'm on at least twenty times by now. You'll get used to it.
[15:20] <airtonix> Karhu, same.
[15:20] <MrUnix> !kubuntu | quarkup
[15:20] <yucatan1991> soreau: okee rebooting now.
[15:20] <soreau> yucatan1991: Oh well, if you have too old kernel it wont work but we will see
[15:20] <kinja-sheep> Karhu: XFCE, LXDE, No GUI.
[15:21] <Dontkillme> Okay, I inserted the installation DVD now. When will the installer start?
[15:21] <cweilem> hey all - I've got a webcam hooked up to my 9.04 box, it works, but when running ekiga, the image is a mirror image.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
[15:21]  * airtonix still thinks Dontkillme is a troll.
[15:21] <MrUnix> Dontkillme, don't troll.
[15:21] <CAPcap> airtronix i want to make a shortut to seamonkey 2.02 which doesnt automatically install and therefore doesnt make a shortcut. the instructions online dont work they appear to be for an older version of ubuntu or a different breed of linux
[15:21] <IdleOne> Dontkillme: reboot
[15:21] <Dontkillme> IdleOne: Okay, thanks. I'll try it
[15:21] <airtonix> CAPcap, you want a shortcut on your desktop or panel right to seamonkey?
[15:22] <llutz>  /me wonders what mailclient thunderbird-devs are using... :(
[15:22] <IdleOne> thought you did this 4 times already but anyway
[15:22] <llutz> ups, wrong channel sry
[15:22] <airtonix> -_-
[15:22] <CAPcap> yes i want it in Panel -> Applications -> Internet
[15:22] <mads-> Hi. Can anyone remember what the online editor where multiple persons can write at the same is called?
[15:22] <CAPcap> Just like any other program
[15:23] <airtonix> CAPcap, open : system -> preferences -> menu
[15:23] <CAPcap> done
[15:23] <airtonix> CAPcap, you can insert new items with that program
[15:23] <DJones> mads-: There's either gobby, or have a look at www.etherpad.com Probably the 2nd one would be best
[15:23] <juniper> I am looking to create some sort of front door security system which takes a snapshot of whoever is at the door when they press the buzzer.  I already have the camera I need to use.  And I guess I could wire the doorbell in as a key press or a mouse click.  But I doubt there is any suitable software.  I would probably have to graft something.Any ideas?
[15:24] <soreau> yucatan1991: I think you will need at least 2.6.32 kernel for 3D accel on this card with the open driver but if xorg-edgers repo doesnt provide it, not sure if you have to build one or what :P
[15:24] <CAPcap> airtonix thanks
[15:24] <mads-> DJones: thanks
[15:24] <kinja-sheep> juniper: o.O
[15:24] <airtonix> CAPcap, if for some reason that menu path i provided doesn't launch Alacarte ... then you can simply run it directly : alt+f2 & type : Alacarte
[15:25] <Mad_Dog> помогите
[15:25] <main> hello
[15:25] <kinja-sheep> juniper: Use motion sensors, at least. See package "motion"
[15:25] <Guest90983> hello
[15:25] <Mad_Dog> зарегиться
[15:25] <main> i need help here
[15:25] <alabd> Hello , would you give download link of a blue sky theme for ubuntu ? it's pictures should be used in a ubuntu book and book is white and black , so theme should be proper for being white and black
[15:25] <IdleOne> !ru | Mad_Dog
[15:25] <main> any one compile last firefox
[15:25] <main> source
[15:25] <riktking> hi having trouble finding out the ram type in my laptop, when i use the dmidecode command it says i have ram of 1mhz?!?! any helpers?
[15:25] <erUSUL> juniper: why not a stock surviellance system that records when there is motion ? http://www.zoneminder.com/
[15:25]  * airtonix tempted to spam at least three !bangs at main
[15:25] <Mad_Dog> ubottu спасибо
[15:26] <cweilem> any thoughts on how to "unmirror" a webcam picture in 9.04?
[15:26] <main> any one compile firefox from source can help me here
[15:26] <yucatan1991> soreau: thx alot it works now
[15:27] <soreau> yucatan1991: Thats great!
[15:27] <yucatan1991> soreau: can u maby make a list of stept i need to do if i clean install ubuntu to get this
[15:27] <erUSUL> cweilem: use a photoeditor gimp gthumb f-spot all support this function
[15:27] <soreau> yucatan1991: By works, you mean compiz does?
[15:27] <pif> how can I rescue a disk from a ubuntu livecd  ?
[15:27] <yucatan1991> the visual effects work now
[15:27] <IdleOne> yucatan1991: the steps are all in your terminal, use the arrow keys to scroll through the commands you used and write them down :)
[15:27] <soreau> awesome
[15:27] <erUSUL> !recovery
[15:28] <yucatan1991> okee thx
[15:28] <erUSUL> !undelete | pif
[15:28] <airtonix> cweilem, i assume you mean in realtime?
[15:28] <cweilem> erUSUL:  any ideas on how to flip the real time picture?  the camera works properly in Skype, but is mirrored in ekiga
[15:28] <cweilem> airtonix:  yup
[15:28] <soreau> yucatan1991: Well it is very easy then. For a clean install, just do like IdleOne said: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:28] <yucatan1991> okee thx alot
[15:28] <airtonix> cweilem, and hence the suggestion of using gimp is hardly satisfactory
[15:28] <pif> ubottu: thx
[15:29] <cweilem> airtonix:  well, that would work, because what I have setup is motion detector
[15:29] <soreau> yucatan1991: btw, what does uname -r report your kernel version as?
[15:29] <Hirager> I need help with recovering previous xorg.conf file.
[15:29] <inmanix> Hey guys, need some help if i can
[15:30] <Nokia_E75> How to detect my nokia e75 on ubuntu 9.10?
[15:30] <Hirager> I assume that when some hardware gets changed, xorg.conf gets replaced, am I right?
[15:30] <juniper> erUSUL: genius nice 1 thx
[15:30] <airtonix> cweilem, expect it wont, since to use gimp to do this you would 1) need to edit each frame manually (time consuming, not practical) 2) setup a pipe from the /dev/somethingsomethingsomething/  folder to have gimp process it in the backgroun (complicated, also might fubar other things )
[15:30] <Riverthief> Sup guys, is it normal for the "Nautilus" process to be taking 95% CPU and 216mb of RAM? I'm pretty sure it's not lol. Who do I fix this?
[15:30] <inmanix> I've currently got XP on a 240gb NTFS, and a copy of ubuntu to test it out on a 10gb partition. im looking to modify the sizes of these partitions and wondering if it could be done through partition magic, or if i need to fresh install everything?
[15:30] <erUSUL> juniper: no problem
[15:31] <riktking> inmanix, try gparted
[15:31] <riktking> inmanix, from a live CD tho
[15:31] <airtonix> cweilem, have you tried using the program called  "cheese" ?
[15:31] <cweilem> airtonix:  right.  i mean, it's not a huge issue - the bottom line is the camera works and I can catch people stealing stuff off my desk, but it'd be nice if it wasn't mirrored
[15:31] <kwork> inmanix, backup your data before tryng it
[15:31] <inmanix> is it safe resizing NTFS?
[15:31] <MindSpark> hi, not sure if I should ask this here, but is there any known/working IDE's for flash under linux ?
[15:31] <yucatan1991> soreau: 2.6.31-14-generic
[15:31] <cweilem> airtonix:  will cheese work for motion sensing?
[15:31] <perlsyntax_> why don't the broadcom come with the driver on the cd?
[15:31] <inmanix> will i not lose data? i mean iv got 170GB free
[15:31] <kwork> inmanix, long time ago i have managed to wipe my hdd clean while rezising partitions,
[15:31] <riktking> inmanix, yeah you can do it, then windows will "check the file system on boot"but as kwork said, backup first
[15:32] <Nokia_E75> Anyone use ubuntu ME @ Sabily?
[15:32] <inmanix> sure
[15:32] <airtonix> cweilem, not sure but there is other projects that do what you want in terms of start recording when enough pixels change in the frame
[15:32] <maemo_5> buon pomeriggio. mi occorre una mano devo configurare su ubuntu 9.4 kmid e timidity gia installati ma non rieso a riprodurre i midi e i kar
[15:32] <Riverthief> So..........does anyone know?
[15:32] <airtonix> !find motion
[15:32] <soreau> yucatan1991: Ok, ubuntu must have put latest radeon drm patches because vanilla kernel, you need at least .32 for accel on that card with the open driver
[15:32] <IdleOne> !it | maemo_5
[15:32] <airtonix> !info motion
[15:32] <soreau> yucatan1991: But glad it works
[15:32] <inmanix> and second question, what setup would you recommend for partitions? just two partitions for XP and linux and room for files?
[15:32] <pif> from a livecd how do I reinstall my grub boot sector?
[15:32] <airtonix> !info motion > cweilem
[15:33] <Riverthief> Is it normal for the "Nautilus" process to be taking 95% CPU and 216mb of RAM? I'm pretty sure it's not lol. Who do I fix this?
[15:33] <inmanix> someone suggested 4 partitions, 10gb for ubuntu, 20 for xp, then one shared NTSF and another dedicated for linux
[15:33] <cweilem> airtonix:  even cheese shows the reverse image, and motion is what I'm using now :)
[15:33] <airtonix> cweilem, http://www.chriswpage.com/2009/05/setup-an-advanced-webcam-security-system-with-ubuntu-8-04-and-motion/
[15:33] <inmanix> and what is the recommended swap file size for 2gb ram? 4000?
[15:34] <airtonix> cweilem, ok (mention these things it helps )
[15:34] <jrib> inmanix: = ram should be enough
[15:34] <riktking> inmanix partition for data (ext4), swaps (fat32 so both windows and linux can see it), windows (ntfs) and a /home one (ext4)
[15:34] <cweilem> airtonix:  ha, sorry
[15:34] <riktking> inmanix, and a swap!
[15:34] <sebsebseb> Hi
[15:34] <airtonix> cweilem, maybe motion has cofig to modify frames as it dumps them ?
[15:34] <Riverthief> inmanix, I have 3gb of RAM, and never even fill half of my 890mb swap
[15:34] <yucatan1991> soreau: thx alot!!!!!
[15:34] <cweilem> airtonix:  summary so far - using motion, cheese, ekiga, the camera works, but image is mirrored.  skype works perfectly
[15:35] <riktking> inmanix, sorry for "swaps" i mean a drive that both windows and linux can see not a swap drive
[15:35] <inmanix> i will be light gaming on wine though
[15:35] <Riverthief> Well, I'd suggest around 1.5gb
[15:35] <inmanix> ok
[15:35] <jrib> inmanix: if you plan on using suspend-to-disk your swap should be greater than or equal to your ram
[15:36] <inmanix> im somehwat of a 1 day old ubuntu noob, but im assuming 'suspend to disk- is not a requirement?
[15:36] <kinja-sheep> inmanix: No it is not. It is a feature some people use.
[15:36] <cweilem> airtonix:  maybe...  i'm wondering now if skype isn't flipping the image for me
[15:36] <jrib> inmanix: it's not, do you understand what I mean by it?  It's usually called "hibernate" in wondws-land
[15:36] <inmanix> aye
[15:36] <jrib> windows even
[15:37] <soreau> yucatan1991: Thank IdleOne too, I made a note of how to add the xorg-edgers repo now :)
[15:37] <inmanix> okay, so i need ext4 for files, i need a ext4 for ubunutu which i already have, i need a fat32 for shared and i need a ntfs for windows?
[15:37] <sebsebseb> inmanix: I just joined, what are you trying to do?
[15:37] <riktking> inmanix, yes
[15:37] <airtonix> cweilem, it might be (if it is then my assumption is that since its newer than cheese or motion it is sniffing machine ids of your webcam and it knows that it needs to flip the frames)
[15:38] <IdleOne> soreau: :)
[15:38] <sebsebseb> inmanix: you don't need Fat32,   Ubuntu since 7.10 (October 2007) can read and write to NTFS properly,  as long as Windows shut it down properly
[15:38] <jrib> inmanix: why do you need ext4 for files?  Just have a partition for ubuntu and one for swap.  A separate one for /home is also a good idea.  That's it on the ubuntu side
[15:38]  * airtonix thinks separate home partitions should be default
[15:38] <MrUnix> I just use a boot partition, a swap area, and then keep all my ubuntu stuff on the same part.
[15:38] <MrUnix> *shrugs*
[15:39] <sebsebseb> airtonix: they are good to have,  but  not always needed,  espeasilly if people have say an external hard disk to back up to
[15:39] <inmanix> i dont understand the /home stuff
[15:39] <airtonix> MrUnix, must make reinstalling a pain in the rear (what with having to back up X amount of gigs prior to reinstalling)
[15:39] <kinja-sheep> !home | inmanix
[15:39] <MrUnix> inmanix, /home is really the only area in linux you'll be able to write new files to. All of your stuff is kept there.
[15:40] <jrib> inmanix: all your user's data is kept there.  So if you have a separate partition for it you could for example reinstall ubuntu without really noticing or use another distro without really noticing
[15:40] <inmanix> sure, so its basically my C drive
[15:40] <airtonix> sebsebseb, separate gome parition precludes the requirement to back up prior to a reinstall.
[15:40] <jrib> inmanix: no
[15:40] <sebsebseb> inmanix: ok thanks for the pm telling me what you want to do
[15:40] <zer0her0> dumb question how can i see the format of a drive/partition
[15:40] <inmanix> so i have 10gb for ubuntu installation, then a seperate ext4 for home
[15:40] <MrUnix> airtonix, I keep an external HDD close at hand that I backup to at least once a week or so
[15:40] <freakynl> inmanix: no, basically it's c:\documents and settings
[15:40] <sebsebseb> inmanix: by default Ubuntu  puts everything into  /  which is like C in Windows
[15:40] <freakynl> or c:\users if you vista/7 users
[15:40] <tdn> With tar, how do I set the compression level? Say, I want to do gzip level 4 or bzip2 level 9?
[15:40] <sebsebseb> inmanix: however it also gives people some swap space,  which is virtual memory in Windows
[15:41] <zer0her0> via cli.
[15:41] <inmanix> and home natively lives in / im guessing
[15:41] <inmanix> and im looking to move that to a new partition
[15:41] <MrUnix> Everything is kind of in /
[15:41] <maemo_5> hi. i need a help for kmid and timidity. all it's right installed but the midi and kar codec doesn't work... i can't hear the sound
[15:41] <sebsebseb> inmanix: a home is like my documents,  and program files kind of,  well just program user data in hidden .folders   for programs in a home.   by default   home goes in  /  ,but  some of us like having a seperate /home partition, because that makes re installing Ubuntu or even changing to another distro a bit easier
[15:41] <riktking> inmanix, /home is a "directory" of / ,  but can be on a different partitions
[15:42] <domito_> 'morning
[15:42] <kinja-sheep> inmanix: In Windows, there are many drives C: D: E: -- In Unix, everything is in one tree.  /etc/ /home
[15:42] <inmanix> sure, so its effectively my documents and program files
[15:42] <sebsebseb> inmanix: for example .mozilla is the Firefox profile, if you remove/move it and then re open Firefox, it's like your using it on Ubuntu for your first time
[15:42] <MrUnix> !hi | domito_
[15:42] <inmanix> sure sure
[15:42] <maemo_5> hi. i need a help for kmid and timidity. all it's right installed but the midi and kar codec doesn't work... i can't hear the sound. i use ubuntu 9.4
[15:42] <inmanix> so my home partition needs to be my large linux 'file' partition
[15:43] <maemo_5> hi. i need a help for kmid and timidity. all it's right installed but the midi and kar codec doesn't work... i can't hear the sound. i use ubuntu 9.4
[15:43] <sebsebseb> inmanix: yeah do like 10GB for / that's right you don't need much space for Ubuntu itself, when you got a big seperate /home
[15:43] <freakynl> inmanix: no, program files is /bin, /usr/bin, things like that. program data in windows is kept in c:\documents and settings\user and the local settings\application data or application data. in linux program DATA is kept in your home folder. quite similar actually
[15:43] <sebsebseb> inmanix: swap space, well  that depends on how much RAM, how big you make it
[15:44] <inmanix> well if i say install steam with wine
[15:44] <sebsebseb> inmanix: and if you want to hibernate and such or not
[15:44]  * airtonix likes to put the swap partition as the first partition
[15:44] <jrib> inmanix: wine stuff ends up in your home
[15:44] <inmanix> k :)
[15:44] <MrUnix> inmanix, wine = /home
[15:44]  * kinja-sheep does not use swap :D
[15:44] <sebsebseb> inmanix: yes that's right .wine  the hidden .wine folder is your wine programs
[15:44] <inmanix> seb someone said around 1.5 gig was good for me
[15:44] <MrUnix> Virtually everything you add to linux will end up in /home.
[15:44] <inmanix> im 2gig ram
[15:44] <betz> Greetings!
[15:44]  * freakynl likes /boot as first partition and swap second :P
[15:45]  * airtonix thinks kinja-sheep shall feel the cold edge of my swap drive
[15:45] <sebsebseb> kinja-sheep: I don't really need it either and  this is with 1GB RAM,  I don't hibernate this computer
[15:45] <MrUnix> inmanix, swap needs to be 2 or more gigs  then. (I suggest at least three or four if you want to hibernate or work with large files)
[15:45] <sebsebseb> kinja-sheep: oh some programs might run better with SWAP space, but I don't really need, even so though I tend to have it
[15:45] <MrUnix> !hi | betz
[15:45] <kinja-sheep> sebsebseb: I think it is nicer to have swap file instead of swap partition.
[15:46] <sebsebseb> kinja-sheep: oh you got a SWAP file
[15:46] <kinja-sheep> sebsebseb: No I don't -- but I'm looking at htop right now, I'm using 717MB / 3G
[15:46] <airtonix> MrUnix, to be safe swap needs to be 2.5 times the capacoty of your physical ram (to cover the hibernation scenario that your physical ram is full and some swap drive is being used for running apps)
[15:46] <kinja-sheep> sebsebseb: Basically, 24% of the memory.
[15:46] <freakynl> kinja-sheep: swap can not dynamically grow so what's the point?
[15:47] <airtonix> freakynl, techincally it can by adding a swap file to fstab
[15:47] <sebsebseb> inmanix: by the way you have told me you want to game right,  well there's this idea that Deskop Linux sucks for gaming,  but that really is not the case, there are some pretty good native games for it, and quite a lot of games will work well enough in Wine,  ok so some/many need to be configured a bit first for Wine
[15:47] <kinja-sheep> airtonix: +1
[15:47] <betz> I need to install php5-imap on a feisty server. Tried with apt-get, but i get 404 error, failed to fetch
[15:47] <sebsebseb> inmanix: just wanted to be clear, that  there are good games for Desktop Linux as well
[15:47] <MrUnix> airtonix, I was just passing along the minimum recommended.
[15:47] <freakynl> airtonix: i know how to use loopback swap file, i said grow  :)
[15:47] <llutz> you always can additional swap-space on the fly
[15:47] <sebsebseb> !games |  inmanix
[15:47] <inmanix> i know :) i got CS:S going last night
[15:47] <inmanix> my ping was awful
[15:47] <inmanix> not ping..fps
[15:47] <inmanix> but one change
[15:47] <jrib> !feisty | betz
[15:47] <inmanix> and it doubled
[15:48] <FloodBot1> inmanix: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:48] <airtonix> freakynl, i like to think that a swap space that grows is not good.
[15:48] <jrib> betz: you should upgrade as feisty is no longer supported
[15:48] <betz> ubottu: so i can't get those packages anymore? upgrading is not an option for the moment, not my server
[15:48] <freakynl> airtonix: i like to think swap is evil anyways :) virtual memory is horribly slow
[15:49] <kinja-sheep> freakynl, airtonix: Also, you can't grow the RAM, what is the point? You have to change them. :)
[15:49] <airtonix> freaky[t], this is true
[15:49] <jrib> betz: tell the admin to upgrade it.  Point out that it is no longer supported
[15:49] <sebsebseb> betz: 7.04 is/was a rather nice release really, but yep no longer supported, so you should upgrade to at least 8.04 really
[15:49] <ouyes> i have never seen there were more than 200MB of the swap space being in use
[15:49] <llutz> if one uses swap on regular base, he should buy ram
[15:49] <freakynl> kinja-sheep: the point is, if you have to pre-allocate the space it makes no difference whether it's a partition or a file
[15:49] <freakynl> in case of the file, if it's heavily fragmented it will perform even worse
[15:49] <airtonix> llutz, hibernation ?
[15:50] <ouyes> swap space should be abolished
[15:50] <llutz> airtonix: that's not "using swap", thats hibernating to swap-partition
[15:50] <airtonix> llutz, no swap == no hibernate
[15:50] <ouyes> abandoned
[15:50] <regjava> How can I browse network computers in xubuntu?
[15:50] <llutz> airtonix: i meant "usind swap as memory paging"
[15:50] <kinja-sheep> regjava: Maybe "network://" in your file manager location bar
[15:51] <ouyes> regjava,  you are running xubuntu ? how about it ?
[15:51] <MrUnix> !ot | llutz ouyes airtonix freakyn1
[15:51] <freakynl> airtonix: yes, this is why hibernation, atleast using that method, on linux is borked. if i have 2G mem, 3G swap, using 3.5G mem (thus 2G and 1.5G swap) hibernation is going to have serious issues
[15:51] <kevin1093> does anyone know if it is possible to run ubuntu server 9.10 on an old windows 95
[15:51] <pif> can I become root in a livecd? I tried 'su'
[15:51] <MrUnix> pif, yes you can
[15:51] <q0_0p> any know how i can get grub2 menu to display.  ubuntu loads perfectly
[15:51] <kinja-sheep> pif: "sudo passwd"
[15:52] <sebsebseb> q0_0p:  try pressing esc
[15:52] <jrib> q0_0p: or shift
[15:52] <pif> oh, ok
[15:52] <llutz> pif: sudo su
[15:52] <sebsebseb> q0_0p: as it's loading
[15:52] <airtonix> kevin1093, clarify
[15:52] <sebsebseb> jrib: oh shift works as well, didn't know that
[15:52] <q0_0p> sebsebseb, monitor is using digital display
[15:52] <pif> llutz: better
[15:52] <jrib> sebsebseb: yeah, that's just what I've seen others say, I always show the menu
[15:53] <regjava> dosent ubuntu have network support?
[15:53] <sebsebseb> jrib: I think I tried once or whatever with it not showing, but yes good to have it showing at least for a few seconds, so  can change  to another option if wanting to
[15:53] <airtonix> regjava, no. i mean yes...
[15:53] <sebsebseb> regjava: of course it has network support,  what kind of network support are you after though?
[15:53] <freakynl> regjava: oc not. we always walk to a windows box, download the updates, put them on usb and then bring them to ubuntu :P
[15:53] <airtonix> regjava, but that isn't your real question is it
[15:54] <regjava> How do i access other computers on the lan
[15:54] <IdleOne> regjava: what our 3 friends here are trying to say is, can you be a little more specific :)
[15:54] <freakynl> regjava: define computers and sharing abilities
[15:54] <kinja-sheep> !away > MrUnix|Away
[15:55] <kinja-sheep> Does anybody here wrote a rsync script that will sync *any* files between machines when things get created / modified / attrib changes / etc?
[15:55] <regjava> ok, I want to share  a folder on he home network and also access shares on my friends comp
[15:55] <regjava> how do i do it
[15:55] <domito_> kinja-sheep did you try unison?
[15:55] <sebsebseb> regjava: some of those computers run Windows?
[15:55] <airtonix> regjava, since you haven't mentioned we assume you mean between a windows machine
[15:55] <domito_> if only 2 machines, unison is a good way to go
[15:55] <MrUnix|Away> kinja-sheep, My bad bud.
[15:55] <regjava> the other computers run on windoews
[15:55] <sebsebseb> !samba | regjava
[15:55] <q0_0p> regjava, python -m SimpleHTTPServer 80
[15:55] <airtonix> ^ protip
[15:56] <kinja-sheep> domito_: Unison is silly. And break occasionally. :\
[15:56]  * airtonix thinks python is win
[15:56] <kinja-sheep> domito_: I mean with dnotify or inotifywait
[15:56] <freakynl> regjava: if you only want to access shares on windows machine (ie not share yourself) have a look at mount.cifs
[15:56] <DemoOn> can someone helm with that gnome tray icons arent transperent, it has grey bckground...
[15:56] <kevin1093> i am trying to install ubuntu server onto my old windows 95, but the cd drive does not mork so i had to put the hard drivre into my compaq(the comp i am using now). the server installed ok and boots fine on this comp, but when i put it into my 95 it resarts after i select which operating system i want to boot in grub
[15:56] <airtonix> DemoOn, no. that aspect of the icon is controlled by the program/applet
[15:56] <sebsebseb> DemoOn: uh yeah, you can make panels transparent, but stuff that is on them doesn't just become transparant as well
[15:57] <ubuntu> ???
[15:57] <pif> how can I run grub from a livecd to boot from /dev/sda1?
[15:57] <pif> apparently the installer forgot to setup grub
[15:57] <airtonix> !ot | ubuntu
[15:58] <goodtime> Sysinfo for 'will-laptop': Linux 2.6.27-16-generic running , CPU: AMDAthlon64X2Dual-CoreTK-57 at 800 MHz (1595 bogomips), HD: 3/105GB, RAM: 646/1769MB, 126 proc's, 53.19min up
[15:58] <sebsebseb> pif: how did you install Ubuntu?
[15:58] <IdleOne> goodtime: nice, nobody cares though.
[15:58] <airtonix> kevin1093, have you tried doing a netboot install ?
[15:58] <goodtime> heh
[15:58] <Guest79841> anybody know how to get an actual nick?
[15:58] <Guest79841> "/nick" doesnt work
[15:59] <DemoOn> airtonix: no, everything was ok, before system update
[15:59] <Sacho> /nick MyNick
[15:59] <IdleOne> Guest79720: /nick newnick
[15:59] <goodtime> ..    /nick   nick
[15:59] <kinja-sheep> Guest79841: /nick jeremy_is_silly
[15:59] <sebsebseb> Guest79841: and then if it's not already taken you can register it
[15:59] <DemoOn> airtonix: i think i have smthing messed up with some cfg file or smthng
[15:59] <underdog5004>  /msg nickserv register nickname
[15:59] <underdog5004> or something like that
[15:59] <pif> sebsebseb: with a livecd
[15:59] <MrUnix> It's /msg nickserv register <e-mail> <password>
[16:00] <DemoOn> sebsebseb: they became transperent, at least it was so a while ago
[16:00] <sebsebseb> pif: I am so not going to try and help someone fix Grub 2 right now,  I assume your on Karmic so Grub 2 yep if it's a clean install.   anyway this link might have something useful
[16:00] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | pif
[16:00] <kevin1093> airtonix whats a netboot install
[16:00] <JeoMAN> YAY
[16:00] <JeoMAN> i guess someone had my old nick
[16:01] <MrUnix> kevin1093, It means you'll install your new OS from a minimal environment via a network connection.
[16:02] <JeoMAN> anybody know how to get into the linux mint channels?
[16:02] <kevin1093> but my 95 was unbootable (that is why i chose linux) and it is still unbootable
[16:02] <IdleOne> !mint
[16:02] <sebsebseb> !mintsupport |  JeoMAN
[16:02] <MrUnix> JeoMAN, There's one on Freenode and they have one on their own server.
[16:02] <JeoMAN> !mintsupport
[16:02] <mediaprodigy_> Question: My firefox browser and for that matter my desktop locks up very often.. windows will not minimize or move, clicking and dragging do not work, menu drop downs do not work and actually look as if they are clicked but blink and no drop down drops down. I have reinstalled ubuntu and this is still the case. Does anyone have any experience with this on your own setups?
[16:02] <kinja-sheep> JeoMAN: jeremy_ is owned for more than 8 years. Lies.
[16:03] <manish> hi! i'm a new user. i am having difficulty in accessing the other partitions from most of my applications...and even the file manager. can someone tell me how can i fix this...m using xubuntu 9.10.
[16:03] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: How much RAM?
[16:03] <mediaprodigy_> 1 Gig
[16:03] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: Which graphics card?
[16:03] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: 1 Gig, is this not enough
[16:03] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: 1GB is more than enough for Ubuntu
[16:03] <MrUnix> mediaprodigy_, 1 gig is fine.
[16:04] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: It is a optiplex sx 260.. one of those mobile super small desktops with labtop parts
[16:04] <DemoOn> i have similar to this http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33374931/Screenshot.png
[16:04] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: uhmm I don't know about that, but it's a good idea for people to run Ubuntu on supported hardware, otherwise they are likely to get issues
[16:04] <manish> mediaprodigy_ what about ram??
[16:04] <JeoMAN> okay this is gonna reveal my complete n00b-ness, but, anyone know how to change the time on my clock?
[16:04] <JeoMAN> i just installed ubuntu a few hours ago
[16:04] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: so what ever graphics card comes with that.. not sure
[16:04] <DemoOn> pidgin have gray icon
[16:05] <IdleOne> JeoMAN: right click and go to prefs
[16:05] <kevinj615> I've always wondered, how do you get that little application bar down at the bottom
[16:05] <MrUnix> JeoMAN, GNOME?
[16:05] <JeoMAN> no
[16:05] <cla_> does anyone know how to make a remote computer run a shared script from another computer using the terminal of the latter computer?
[16:05] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: as long as your using something reasonably standard hardwarewise Ubuntu should work quite well.  well  wireless and sound can be problem areas, but that's not your issue
[16:05] <JeoMAN> XUbuntu
[16:05] <mediaprodigy_> manish: i have 1 gig of ram in the setup
[16:05] <MrUnix> kevin1093, in GNOME?
[16:05] <MrUnix> JeoMAN, You can do it from terminal with the "date" command.
[16:05] <cla_> does anyone know how to make a remote computer run a shared script from another computer using the terminal of the latter computer?
[16:05] <FiReSTaRT> JeoMAN: ok click on the clock, once it pops open, under locations there's an edit button.. click on it, click on the time settings button and you can change it even though i'd just leave it on autoupdate
[16:05] <MrUnix> I think the syntax is date HHmmMMDDYYYY
[16:06] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: Firefox does get issues on Ubuntu, for some of us, but  it's useually as a result of Flash
[16:06] <cla_> does anyone know how to make a remote computer run a shared script from another computer using the terminal of the latter computer?
[16:06] <sebsebseb> !patience | cla_
[16:06] <JeoMAN> oh i figured it out
[16:06] <JeoMAN> thanks
[16:06] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: i installed non supprted extras to get flash support vs adobe flash
[16:06] <FiReSTaRT> JeoMAN: i like the applet.. i don't even need to look out the window to know what the weather's like :P
[16:06] <kinja-sheep> cla_: Copy the script to the other computer. Run the script.
[16:06] <kevin1093> MrUnix What about GNOME
[16:06] <kevin1093> ?
[16:07] <MrUnix> kevin1093, Are you using GNOME?
[16:07] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[16:07] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: but the issues where there when i installed just the adobe flash
[16:07] <brainbox> hey guys if i want to find out if anything on my system is already using a port how do i check
[16:07] <infid> anyone know of a way to do 'iswitchw' behavior in ubuntu? (http://lifehacker.com/5278802/iswitchw-finds-windows-as-you-type)
[16:07] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: yes sir
[16:07] <manish> mediaprodigy_ do u have dual boot? like 2 os installed, and u choose at the beginning?
[16:07] <JeoMAN> so how do i get to a new server, idk where to enter in "!mint"
[16:07] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: so it was ok, untill Flash was installed?
[16:07] <kevin1093> yes
[16:07] <BTR> Hey I want to get unbunto version how
[16:07] <manish> hi! i am having difficulty in accessing the other partitions from most of my applications...and even the file manager. can someone tell me how can i fix this...m using xubuntu 9.10.
[16:07] <MrUnix> kevin1093, then the application bar at the bottom should already be on your desktop. You can add more by adding panels.
[16:07] <sebsebseb> BTR: first you need to download the ISO   and burn to CD,  or you can get them to send you a free CD
[16:07] <IdleOne> JeoMAN: /server irc.spotchat.org
[16:07] <MrUnix> !xubuntu | manish
[16:08] <kinja-sheep> JeoMAN: /server irc.spotchat.org (then you type in "/j #linuxmint-help"
[16:08] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: i do not think it happed when i first installed ubuntu.. so i suspect flash may have something to do with it .. and yet i installed ubuntu unsupported extras
[16:08] <mediaprodigy_> yes*
[16:08] <Skeptic> ubuntu doesn't boot from the usb stick on a d510mo motherboard
[16:08] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: ok  the way you got Flash is fine
[16:08] <FiReSTaRT> manish: you may have more luck in #xubuntu or #thunar (thunar is the default xfce file manager)
[16:08] <kevin1093> MrUnix i think you are talking to the wrong guy: you want to talk to kevinj615
[16:08] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: ,but Adobe Flash is closed source, and so not much can be done about it's issues
[16:08] <DemoOn> can anybody help me with this issue? Some of the ray icons arent transperent
[16:08] <DemoOn> tray
[16:08] <MrUnix> kevin1093, LOL, my bad
[16:08] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: also i do have a XP and ubuntu selection screen
[16:08] <MrUnix> Damn you kevins... all lookin the same and junk
[16:08] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: luckily their are alternatives to Flash  that might be good enough for your useage,  Gnash and Flash.  their are also alternative browsers were Flash works better on Ubuntu
[16:09] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: uh Gnash and Swfdec above
[16:09] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: do you recommend reinstalling ubuntu?
[16:09] <cla_> kinja-sheep, if i have 2 computers, the 1st one shared the script to the 2nd computer, how can i run the script from the 1st computer? not with the 2nd computer.. is that possible?
[16:09] <MrUnix> sebsebseb, Flash is an alternative to flash? McAwesome
[16:09] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: you already tried that didn't you?
[16:09] <kevinj615> lol
[16:10] <Skeptic> why wouldn't ubuntu boot on a d510mo?
[16:10] <manish> FiReSTaRT : but the other apps? like, i if i try to use a wallpaper from the other partition, it won't be on after restart.....i guess it requires previliges everytime...can't anythingnbe done??
[16:10] <cla_> kinja-sheep, if i have 2 computers, the 1st one shared the script to the 2nd computer, how can i make the 2nd computer run the script from the 1st computer? not with the 2nd computer.. is that possible?
[16:10] <kinja-sheep> cla_: What script? Some commands (ie rsync) allows you to switch paths (from target to host, or vice versa).
[16:10] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: i installed adobe flash, then uninstalled it.. and then reinstalled ubuntu unsupported extras.. not sure if i uninstalled everything.. librarys.. and such
[16:10] <CAPcap> ok so I'm having media player problems, it seem that if i can find a player that will play my m4a itunes songs it will not/cannot manage my library at all or easily they all seem to be miniplayers. Full cataloguing players with lots of tools cant seem to play them. recommend a program?
[16:11] <sebsebseb> BTR: good idea to check ISO before burning contents to CD yeah
[16:11] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | BTR
[16:11] <sebsebseb> BTR: if you get from a torrent it's probably fine though
[16:11] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: thanks
[16:11] <BTR> ok
[16:11] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: it's working better now?
[16:12] <winyath> hi
[16:12] <MrUnix> !hi | winyath
[16:12] <sebsebseb> BTR: you ask me in pm where to download it etc,  what do you want to use it for by the way
[16:12] <sebsebseb> !ubuntu | BTR
[16:13] <CAPcap> Can anyone help me with that? I need a better media player?
[16:13] <MrUnix> CAPcap, Rhthymbox?
[16:13] <BTR> I want change the fedora version
[16:13] <riktking> i have a file that is nearly 2gig that is called .xsession.error
[16:13] <jrib> CAPcap: what's wrong with the default one?
[16:13] <mediaprodigy_> sebsebseb: not next to my machine.. but if flash is the culprit.. i am wondering if i should uninstall ubuntu-unsupported-extras and install ubuntu supported extras as they come up.. it sucks since it is all in a bundle.. I do not know how to uninstall stuff i have downloaded online.. that was not installed through the software center..
[16:13] <riktking> how do i stop it!
[16:13] <jrib> riktking: read it :P
[16:13] <riktking> jrib,
[16:13] <CAPcap> MrUnix and jrib it wont play m4a files
[16:13] <sebsebseb> BTR: you have Fedora installed, but  then ask someone where to download Ubuntu hrm
[16:13] <sebsebseb> ?
[16:13] <riktking> jrib, how do i stop it happening! it is ever expanding
[16:13] <winyath> you are really thear
[16:13] <BTR> y
[16:13] <jrib> riktking: read it, I'm serious
[16:14] <sebsebseb> mediaprodigy_: what do you mean Ubuntu supported extras?
[16:14] <DemoOn> which package is responible for trai icon trnsperency?