[02:33] <eck> mytruehero: if that doesnt' fix it, you need some tcpdump hackery
[02:33] <BENN92647> yeah let me bring winecfg up
[02:33] <nexous> Where can I find the files to Bluefish on my filesystem? besides /home/user/.bluefish/
[02:33] <ubuntu610> hola amigos
[02:33] <eck> mytruehero: you can look at the traffic in tcpdump or ethereal and see what is killing the router
[02:33] <jepeltw> eck, how to let it out onto the Internet? I tried route add -net default gw <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS> dev eth1 which didn't work
[02:33] <tunganet> HELP! my sysyem cannot load after i tried to install BERYL
[02:33] <mytruehero> marx2k: I'm not sure how to do that; also, it should be mentioned that other operating systems are running bittorrent fine on my network, it's just my ubuntu machine that is doing this
[02:33] <tedu> heloo
[02:33] <BENN92647> it doesnt show on the CD
[02:33] <irunwithscissors> tung buddy
[02:34] <raul> tunganet
[02:34] <mytruehero> eck: ok. what should I do next?
[02:34] <ramza3> I have the gdm login set to resolution 1600x1200 and when I log in I get a different resolution; how can I change the gdm resolutoin
[02:34] <tunganet> help!!
[02:34] <irunwithscissors> what went wrong
[02:34] <h1st0> tunganet: /j #ubuntu-effectrs
[02:34] <h1st0> tunganet: /j #ubuntu-effects
[02:34] <tunganet> i went to reboot
[02:34] <raul> its a blank screen?
[02:34] <tunganet> then
[02:34] <h1st0> tedu: hola
[02:34] <tunganet> its a blue screen..
[02:34] <tunganet> saying uh
[02:34] <shiggity> shiggity: but yeah, it sounds like your wine install or config iis messed up. I have to get going, but these other guys can help
[02:34] <h1st0> tunganet: beryl support is in #ubuntu-effects
[02:34] <marx2k> mytruehero, start a ping on google.com, then start your torrents and see what the pink reply goes to before it times out
[02:34] <tunganet> failed to start X server
[02:34] <BENN92647> AH HA!
[02:34] <BENN92647> found the bugger
[02:34] <eck> jepeltw: try adding <IP_ADDRESS> to resolv.conf, i'm not really sure
[02:34] <raul> its your driver
[02:34] <BENN92647> damn thing was hiding
[02:34] <BENN92647> lol
[02:34] <nexous> I went to sessions panel, added /usr/bin/conky to startup programs, but it doesnt start on startup. Any idea?
[02:34] <tunganet> how do i fix it!
[02:34] <linevty04> evenin'
[02:35] <marx2k> usually if it bogs down like that its because your router is saturating its up bandwidth
[02:35] <irunwithscissors> reinstall beryl and choose to install the driver this time
[02:35] <tunganet> how!
[02:35] <tunganet> i cant even load up
[02:35] <tunganet> to my desktop
[02:35] <h1st0> nexous: did you set up conky like will it work if you just alt + f2 and type in conky?
[02:35] <irunwithscissors> can you go to recovery mode
[02:35] <tunganet> uh
[02:35] <tunganet> whta do i press..
[02:35] <lhuynh> excuse me, I was sent here to ask about scripts and/or vpython
[02:35] <marx2k> the other problem routers usually have is that they keep a cache of all of your connections and if you have a LOT of connections, it will crash the router
[02:35] <h1st0> zeroflox: did you get it sorted out i'm sorry I had to run away.
[02:35] <Matic`Makovec> Hey, would anyone know about a working - good howto about 3D desktop and compiz and all that?
[02:36] <jrib> lhuynh: k, just ask
[02:36] <marx2k> newer routers will remove the cache after 90 seconds of not connecting to the IP
[02:36] <jrib> !compiz | Matic`Makovec
[02:36] <irunwithscissors> tung, before the login screen do you see a list of selectable operating systems?
[02:36] <ubotu> Matic`Makovec: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:36] <rick8007> hi i have a wireless question
[02:36] <matty_v> Can anyone help me install BricsCAD on my ubuntu machine? I tried using alien to convert from the rpm package to a deb package and it doesnt seem to install properly
[02:36] <tunganet> nope
[02:36] <eck> mytruehero: try changing the sysctl line to use tcp_window_scaling instead of whatever it was before. if that doesn't work, install ethereal and look for anything weird that ktorrent is sending out
[02:36] <jrib> rick8007: k, go ahead and just ask
[02:36] <Matic`Makovec> Thanks
[02:36] <h1st0> !compiz | Matic`Makovec
[02:36] <mytruehero> eck: Ok. will give it a try. brb
[02:36] <tunganet> can you talk to me in the other window
[02:36] <joshua__> trying to install wireless (dell 1390, bcm4311) via ndiswrapper...
[02:36] <Eagle_101> hey ST47 :P
[02:36] <eck> there must be some kind of network setting that ktorrent is using on the sockets that your router doesn't like
[02:37] <ST47> hello
[02:37] <The_PHP_Jedi> fucking GRUB
[02:37] <whileimhere> h1sto: Im trying to dl files from southparkzone.com
[02:37] <joshua__> and now when I try to remove the driver to start over, I get a ton of errors.
[02:37] <kitche> !ohmy | The_PHP_Jedi
[02:37] <nexous> h1st0: yes, i click ALT F2 and then type conky to startup.
[02:37] <ST47> I'm going to see if he calls back, he's checking the iso atm
[02:37] <mytruehero> eck: Well, it's not just ktorrent; I have tried a half dozen different clients, and they all do the same thing
[02:37] <lhuynh> jrib: how would I create a script to start a vpython program?
[02:37] <h1st0> joshua__: unload teh module.
[02:37] <ubotu> The_PHP_Jedi: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:37] <omegabeta> anyone know how to get a usb game pad working under efty?
[02:37] <irunwithscissors> tung, do you know how to get to the graphicless terminal?
[02:37] <BENN92647> uggh
[02:37] <h1st0> nexous: does it work?
[02:37] <tedu> need some help w refresh rate pls
[02:37] <marx2k> crashing routers is usually not OS specific
[02:37] <tunganet> i tink i am there
[02:37] <nexous> h1st0: when I type it in alt f2, yes
[02:37] <h1st0> nexous: are you using compiz or beryl?
[02:37] <tag> I need to cancel an installation that is pending configuration
[02:37] <eck> mytruehero: also, make sure the firmware on the router is up to date
[02:37] <nexous> h1st0: it just won't load on startup
[02:37] <BENN92647> so do i have to direct wine to the gw folder pn the CD?
[02:37] <mytruehero> marx2k: I know, that's why I'm perplexed ;)
[02:37] <irunwithscissors> press control-alt-f1
[02:37] <nexous> h1st0: not sure.
[02:37] <mytruehero> eck: ok. brb
[02:37] <irunwithscissors> when it loads up and says it can't start the x server
[02:37] <nexous> h1st0: all I know, Gnome, Metacity :D
[02:37] <h1st0> nexous: Do you haev a 3d desktop like a cube.
[02:37] <linevty04> so... who has an intel i915(gm) chipset in here with open gl workin'?  tried to the best of my knowledge to get it workin' follow'd just about everthing on google that has to do with such matters. only thing i never completed was inserting patches (dont know how)  Other than that i can try and help anyone on a d610 laptop
[02:38] <nexous> h1st0: no
[02:38] <BENN92647> i found gwsetup.exe
[02:38] <joshua__> hlst0: modprobe -r bcmwl5?
[02:38] <BENN92647> but i cant get wine to run it
[02:38] <gili_> sorry got disconnected
[02:38] <gili_> did you get my last message PHP
[02:38] <gili_> ?
[02:38] <eck> linevty04: it should just work
[02:38] <The_PHP_Jedi> no gili
[02:38] <h1st0> nexous: okay.  The only thing I would try is maybe make a script to delay the starting of conky like 5 seconds  sleep 5 and on the next line put conky
[02:38] <codi> how can i go about figuring out why mysql won't start?
[02:38] <eck> check with glxinfo
[02:38] <linevty04> mainly getting DRI workin'. the drivers wont compile correctly (cause of the default 8mb shared mem, dri wont work with 8mb)
[02:38] <h1st0> nexous: it might be loading before metacity or something.
[02:38] <h1st0> codi: logs
[02:39] <nexous> h1st0: okay, sorry but, Not sure how to make it delay.
[02:39] <codi> logs
[02:39] <cpk1> BENN92647: what is the full path to gwsetup.exe?
[02:39] <codi> run logs
[02:39] <craigbass1976>  My wife was in the store today and called me about a printer.  I swear she said Epson Stylus CX3000, but she came home with a CX6000, classified so far as a paperweight on openprinting.org.  Am I out of luck?
[02:39] <BENN92647> its on cdrom/guildwarsdisc1/data is that it?
[02:39] <omegabeta> anyone know how to get a usb game pad working under efty?
[02:39] <marx2k> nexous, describe your problem with conky again pls
[02:39] <gili_> The_PHP_Jedi: it seems to me that you are not mounting the root and the boot to the same place where you have the grub install pointin towards the root
[02:39] <h1st0> nexous: well you can make a shell script that waits 5 seconds then it launches conky.  Then you would just add that to your sessions.
[02:39] <rick8007> i have a bcm4318 wireless card that I just got working but I can't see the connection on the desktop. If I go in the command line and pull it up it shows I'm connected but I see no wireless icon just the ethernet that says not connected. The first time I got it to work I had the wireless monitor on there,  where I could choose my wireless network. Then I tried to enable wep and it went to hell. I now have the card working but like
[02:39] <nexous> marx2k: I have to manually type ALT F2 then conky to show conky
[02:39] <The_PHP_Jedi> how do I change where GRUB looks for root?
[02:39] <The_PHP_Jedi> that's what I need to change
[02:39] <linevty04> eck: i've read of bugs with opengl and the i915gm opengl/dri support... there's workarounds but i dont know where/how to insert some lines of code i've found
[02:39] <marx2k> nexous: I have a desktop icon that runs it
[02:39] <tunganet> irun with scissors
[02:40] <marx2k> I run it after gnome starts
[02:40] <irunwithscissors> yes
[02:40] <nexous> marx2k: I don't want a desktop icon to run it though.
[02:40] <ubm> ou craigbass1976 i have the same printer here at home my wife picked it up at walmart it works like a champ
[02:40] <BENN92647> so it would be /media/cdrom0/guildwarsdisc1/data
[02:40] <tunganet> i am in the terminal
[02:40] <h1st0> marx2k: he's trying to get it to launch on startup.
[02:40] <irunwithscissors> i told you in private chat
[02:40] <irunwithscissors> look
[02:40] <marx2k> launching conky on startup is bad news with metacity
[02:40] <nexous> h1st0: sorry, I'm a noob, I have to have like # usr/bin/perl or something? what is it all?
[02:40] <BENN92647> then wine gwsetup.exe
[02:40] <tunganet> uh
[02:40] <rick8007> it says connected in command line
[02:40] <h1st0> marx2k: not really you just need to delay it.
[02:40] <tunganet> can u send again
[02:40] <gili_> The_PHP_Jedi: have you mounted both the boot folder and the roort golder
[02:40] <eck> linevty04: well, i am using hte 855gm which uses the 915 driver, and everything works for me
[02:40] <marx2k> yeah... but delaying it is a bitch
[02:40] <irunwithscissors> did you get that?
[02:40] <The_PHP_Jedi> root folder?
[02:40] <tunganet> no..
[02:40] <cpk1> BENN92647: so do wine /media/cdrom0/guildwarsdisc1/data/gwsetup (assuming cdrom links to /media/cdrom0
[02:40] <linevty04> hmm
[02:40] <irunwithscissors> k
[02:40] <irunwithscissors> sudo apt-get --purge remove beryl beryl-core beryl-manager beryl-plugins beryl-plugins-data beryl-settings beryl-settings-bindings beryl-vidcap emerald libberyldecoration0 libberylsettings0 libemeraldengine0
[02:40] <irunwithscissors> sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:40] <irunwithscissors> sudo apt-get autoclean
[02:40] <irunwithscissors> rm -r ~/.beryl
[02:40] <irunwithscissors> rm -r ~/.emerald
[02:40] <irunwithscissors> rm -r ~/.beryl-managerrc
[02:41] <h1st0> nexous: I'll make a script for you and put it on pastebin then you can just put it in /usr/local/bin/conkystart  or something.  Then just add conkystart to your session startup.
[02:41] <marx2k> !paste | irunwithscissors
[02:41] <ubotu> irunwithscissors: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:41] <jrib> !paste | irunwithscissors
[02:41] <linevty04> who had the bcm wifi card? i just extracted my firmware from it and got it working with kismet and airodump
[02:41] <irunwithscissors> sorry
[02:41] <jrib> lhuynh: what is vpython?
[02:41] <gili_> The_PHP_Jedi: es que no entiendo....me parece que estas haciendo algo malo con lost 'mount-points'
[02:41] <nexous> h1st0: okay thank you.
[02:41] <Flannel> !es | gili_
[02:41] <ubotu> gili_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:41] <The_PHP_Jedi> eh, hablas espanol tambien..
[02:41] <craigbass1976> ubm, what driver are you using?  I just tried printing an open office document with several different colored fonts,a nd it just kept grabbing paper and giving me blank sheets
[02:41] <The_PHP_Jedi> ..
[02:41] <linevty04> eck: i know it shold work, but it doesnt... there's others with the same chipset that say it works, and other like me that know it doesnt
[02:41] <The_PHP_Jedi> geez
[02:41] <marx2k> conky doesnt have fun with beryl
[02:41] <lhuynh> JiBEsH: a python program that allows visual representation (3-D simulation)
[02:41] <BENN92647> i get this now:Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system32" is not accessible.
[02:41] <rick8007> me line
[02:41] <jrib> lhuynh: better question, how do you usually start it?
[02:42] <The_PHP_Jedi> gili: I just need to tell GRUB where to get root
[02:42] <lhuynh> jrib: a python program that allows visual representation (3-D simulation)
[02:42] <The_PHP_Jedi> that's alll
[02:42] <rick8007> it works
[02:42] <eck> linevty04: in that case, i would try downloading the latest kernel from kernel.org and compiling it with the 915 drivers
[02:42] <nexous> h1st0: also, I don't have to have it conkystart.sh right? it can just be saved as conkystart rigt?
[02:42] <lhuynh> jrib: actually, I'm trying to install it.
[02:42] <The_PHP_Jedi> how do I do that?
[02:42] <linevty04> rick8007: are you using ndiswrapper?
[02:42] <yurimxpxman> In KDE, is there any way to make the virtual desktop buttons smaller?
[02:42] <rick8007> i have no wireless app on the desktop
[02:42] <ubm> craigbass1976 during boot it should probe for that printer i didnt have todo anything special
[02:42] <rick8007> yes
[02:42] <tunganet> irunwithscissors
[02:42] <BENN92647> well we are like sooo close, it is me that isnt doing something in the right order
[02:42] <tunganet> i type em in seperate lines right?
[02:42] <irunwithscissors> sup
[02:42] <irunwithscissors> yep
[02:42] <yurimxpxman> rick8007: how?
[02:42] <eck> linevty04: have you compiled the kernel before?
[02:42] <tunganet> ok wait
[02:42] <linevty04> eck: i havent had much luck with compiling... u know of a good how-to?
[02:42] <SmileyLap> Hi guys, i have my wireless card plugged into my Laptop (PCMCIA, and it appears correctly in the device manager, but hte led's dont light up and i dont appear to be able to use it, Anyone help me out?)
[02:42] <yurimxpxman> (if you were referring to me)
[02:43] <eck> linevty04: use the gentoo docs
[02:43] <gili_> The_PHP_Jedi: you have done it already....look at that grub-install root=....that you have just writted down up ther
[02:43] <rick8007> line it was wierd I can paste the link for you
[02:43] <marx2k> mytruehero, hey dude :) Im from madison..we have the same provider :D
[02:43] <jrib> lhuynh: are you just trying to install the vpython module? or do you have a program that utilizes vpython?
[02:43] <The_PHP_Jedi> that doesn't work though
[02:43] <linevty04> eck: i've tried compiling xorg-air but not much luck, did the menu-config and make and whatnot and usually got errors with a main.o file
[02:43] <h1st0> nexous: yeah copy and paste the script I made from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8165/  Then just put it in /usr/local/bin/conkystart   You have to use sudo to edit /usr/local/bin/conkystart paste what I've posted there.  then sudo chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/conkystart   .
[02:43] <eck> it's pretty simple, you just need to make sure you catch everything you need to include
[02:43] <gili_> you have root: pointin to a mount point which is not your root
[02:43] <mytruehero> eck: The command you gave me is successfully disabling window scaling, but did not fix the problem. I downloaded wire shark, but I'm not sure how to use it
[02:43] <yurimxpxman> Do any of you know how to make the virtual desktop buttons smaller in KDE?
[02:43] <rick8007> @line: just follow it and it works, just dont enable wep thats what messed me up
[02:43] <The_PHP_Jedi> so what do I do gili?
[02:43] <h1st0> nexous: then you can just call conkystart from the sessioin panel should delay it.
[02:44] <mytruehero> marx2k: Cool. I'm in Eau Claire - western WI :)
[02:44] <nexous> okay thanks.
[02:44] <eck> linevty04: you don't need to recompile xorg, just the kernel module
[02:44] <lhuynh> jrib: the module? I'm trying to install it. I'll eventually use it for a program, yes
[02:44] <linevty04> rick8007: PM me if you want
[02:44] <craigbass1976> ubm, Well, that was retarded.  Not what you said, but I used the 5800 driver instead of the 6300 (there's no straight 6000 driver) even though they're both the same driver, and it printed fine.
[02:44] <Talaman> hello there
[02:44] <cpk1> BENN92647: do ls -l .wine/drive_c/windows/system32
[02:44] <marx2k> mytruehero, I figured, from your hostname
[02:44] <Talaman> having one issue
[02:44] <jrib> lhuynh: what is "it"
[02:44] <mytruehero> marx2k: you leet haxor
[02:44] <marx2k> :O
[02:44] <marx2k> I hate charter
[02:44] <Talaman> system does not boot into gdm/startx
[02:44] <tunganet> ok scissors
[02:44] <TheVault> umb come back online real quick
[02:44] <irunwithscissors> yes?
[02:44] <tunganet> every line seems to work except for the last line
[02:44] <linevty04> eck: i think i'll do some googlin' on that so i dont bombard you with noobish questions :)
[02:44] <tunganet> rm -r ~/.beryl-managerrc
[02:44] <irunwithscissors> what is the error
[02:44] <BENN92647> ok its show in this order the drives from top to bottom C: /cdrom/
[02:44] <ubm> craigbass1976 come to think of it my wife had that same problem when we got the printer but it was with our Fedora machine
[02:44] <tunganet> uh
[02:45] <tunganet> no file or directory
[02:45] <lhuynh> jrib: visual python. I'm not much more sure how to explain it
[02:45] <linevty04> eck: thanks, 'cause i was trying to compile it all
[02:45] <fiyawerx> hey guys, how can i get a list of hd*'s that aren't mounted?
[02:45] <tunganet> no such*
[02:45] <xamox> when I do a java -jar and it gives me a "failed to load main-class manifest attritbute from.." what does that mean?
[02:45] <marx2k> speaking of torrents... charter forwarded an EMail to me that paramount pictures told them I was sharing movie torrents... so now I cant download movie torrents anymore since this is my 'last chance'
[02:45] <TheVault> umd: come back on msn real quick
[02:45] <BENN92647> D:/media/cdrom0
[02:45] <nexous> how do I first create a file via sudo?
[02:45] <mytruehero> marx2k: Heh. that sucks.
[02:45] <ubm> TheVault just ask in here bro
[02:45] <jrib> lhuynh: install the python-visual package to install the vpython module
[02:45] <marx2k> indeedly :(
[02:45] <craigbass1976> ubm, You've migrated from Fedora too?
[02:45] <h1st0> nexous: just sudo nano /usr/local/bin/conkystart
[02:45] <irunwithscissors> ok try restarting and tell me if u can boot up now
[02:45] <nexous> nvm
[02:45] <tunganet> ok
[02:45] <h1st0> nexous: that will open a text editor
[02:45] <BENN92647>  the path designation is C:/cdrom/
[02:45] <nexous> h1st0: just did, was thinking that i had to create it first.
[02:45] <TheVault> alright, when it says to go here and edit this: - Edit /etc/network/interfaces:  auto ethX iface ethX inet dhcp wireless-essid <your accesspoints essid> wpa-driver wext wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[02:46] <lhuynh> jrib: okay. I did that. is there anything else, or can I just start it? (and if so, how?)
[02:46] <marx2k> mytruehero, do you have charter's 10 Mbit servuce?
[02:46] <TheVault> I edited the file but it won't let me save it
[02:46] <TheVault> i tried the permissions command it don't work
[02:46] <eck> mytruehero: you don't have linux on the router, do you?
[02:46] <mytruehero> marx2k: Not even sure. it's included in my rent, so I never see the bills or anything
[02:46] <cpk1> BENN92647: actually just do 'ls -l .wine/drive_c/windows/' from your home directory and make sure everything is owned by you
[02:46] <ubm> craigbass1976 i still run fedora 6 here at home but i prefer ubuntu over fc6 because it seems to work better with embedded development for mips-32
[02:46] <mytruehero> eck: No, factory settings and firmware
[02:46] <h1st0> TheVault: you need to edit the file as root
[02:46] <marx2k> oh wow.. thats cool mykilx
[02:46] <jrib> lhuynh: don't use "it", I have no idea what you are referring to :)
[02:46] <marx2k> mytruehero, i  mean
[02:46] <h1st0> TheVault: sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
[02:47] <tunganet> nopee
[02:47] <tunganet> same thing
[02:47] <craigbass1976> ubm, what's mips-32?
[02:47] <mytruehero> marx2k: eh. just means I pay the landlord instead of charter, and I have less control over it
[02:47] <ubm> h1st0 he is new he isnt ready for nano :) let him use gedit
[02:47] <lhuynh> jrib: sorry 'bout that. I typed in sudo apt-get python-visual. is there anything else to do?
[02:47] <craigbass1976> ubm, I'm just quitting because of the short FC life cycle
[02:47] <TheVault> yeah what ubm said lol
[02:47] <nexous> I'll be back, gonna restart and see if it loads.
[02:47] <irunwithscissors> ok
[02:47] <marx2k> mytruehero,  whoa..not sweet
[02:47] <irunwithscissors> try
[02:47] <eck> i think you want to do something like create a filter to catch tcp traffic on the ports the torrent is using, and then run it on your interface
[02:47] <h1st0> TheVault: okay gksu gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:47] <irunwithscissors> apt-get remove beryl
[02:47] <jrib> lhuynh: nope, now you have the vpython module installed.  You can run python programs that use the module or write your own python scripts that use the module
[02:47] <lhuynh> and then would it just be vpython in the terminal, like one types "python" ?
[02:47] <marx2k> Im paying $55/month for 5Mbit down. 512 up..and no contract... month to month
[02:47] <ubm> MIPS32 32-bit architecture for embedded systems as in processors
[02:48] <eck> there's a big capture button or something that will do it
[02:48] <mytruehero> eck: Yeah, it wants me to define an interface; not sure what exactly that is asking for, though
[02:48] <mytruehero> eck: I can figure out where to set it, just not what to set it to
[02:48] <BENN92647> ok shiggity shows alot of drwxr-xr-x 2 folders and my name on all of them
[02:48] <jrib> lhuynh: I guess the name of the module is really "visual", it's a module just like "sys" or "os", you import it and use it in your python program
[02:48] <ubm> craigbass1976 i love fedora but ubuntu defiantly dominates
[02:48] <TheVault> Thank you
[02:48] <TheVault> that worked
[02:48] <craigbass1976> ubm, how bout the scanner?  Were you able to get that part running, or can you jsut use it as a photo copier?
[02:48] <rick8007> anyone know how to bring back the wireless connection tool to the desktop?
[02:48] <auk> :(
[02:49] <auk> still not working
[02:49] <gili_> The_PHP_Jedi: have you followed the syntax that is here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:49] <cpk1> BENN92647: your name twice on all of them?
[02:49] <BENN92647> no
[02:49] <marx2k> rick8007,  which one
[02:49] <jrib> lhuynh: have you seen http://vpython.org/webdoc/visual/index.html and http://vpython.erikthompson.com/  ?
[02:49] <ubm> craigbass1976 you can get the scanner working
[02:49] <BENN92647> oh wait yes
[02:49] <BENN92647> sorry shiggity
[02:49] <ubm> need to search google :)
[02:49] <BENN92647> my name is on all of them twice
[02:49] <gili_> The_PHP_Jedi: your root (ubuntu) and your boot partition where grub will be installled according to you is the same
[02:49] <cpk1> and my name isnt shiggity
[02:49] <lhuynh> jrib: will go now.    WWW.GOOGLE.COM
[02:50] <_Luks> how do i make sudo read the password from a variable ?
[02:50] <BENN92647> its not cdrom0
[02:50] <The_PHP_Jedi> gili: root (hd0) doesn't work
[02:50] <gili_> that is the only differene from that manual
[02:50] <h1st0> irunwithscissors: lol
[02:50] <The_PHP_Jedi> lol irunwithscissors
[02:50] <Matic`Makovec> !compiz > Matic`Makovec
[02:50] <irunwithscissors> :D
[02:50] <craigbass1976> ubm, Ok, googling is easier when I know there's not a dead end.  Thanks for letting me know there's an answer
[02:50] <marx2k> irunwithscissors, now if only you could be my personal 'search term' guru
[02:50] <jrib> lhuynh: I've viewed the first couple of videos ones, they are very straighforward and easy to follow.  do you already know python?
[02:50] <_Luks> how do i make sudo read the password from a variable ?
[02:50] <ubm> TheVault so now that we got your wireless card working i can safely assume you will never every again install windows on that machine :)
[02:50] <rick8007> ubuntu and a bcm4318 wireless card
[02:50] <cpk1> BENN92647: go into /media and find out what it is then
[02:50] <BENN92647> mine states C: is just cdrom
[02:50] <jrib> !jfgi | irunwithscissors
[02:50] <ubotu> irunwithscissors: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[02:50] <gili_> root (hd0,7)
[02:50] <BENN92647> ok
[02:50] <lhuynh> jrib: yes. just got back from pycon. :)
[02:50] <_Luks> how do i make sudo read the password from a variable ?
[02:50] <irunwithscissors> eh?
[02:50] <marx2k> also, I have a better answer, irunwithscissors ... www.google.com/linux
[02:51] <BENN92647> lol it says it a directory
[02:51] <TheVault> ubm: we got a problem
[02:51] <tunganet> omg..
[02:51] <bpcmiller> is there a linux eqivilant for magiciso?  I need to edit an iso to make it bootable
[02:51] <ubm> what
[02:51] <TheVault> I forgot to save our chat
[02:51] <The_PHP_Jedi> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[02:51] <TheVault> forgot to save the chat
[02:51] <eck> mytruehero: make sure you are running it as root, and choose the interface you are connected to the net with
[02:51] <mytruehero> eck: I'm running wireshark as root now, and have some more options. I think I can try to figure out how to get it working... let me brb and see what I can see
[02:51] <BENN92647> says:bash: /media: is a directory
[02:51] <mytruehero> eck: good idea :)
[02:51] <marx2k> bpcmiller, there's magicISO for linux
[02:51] <ubm> its ok just come back after you install of the live cd
[02:51] <marx2k> oh wait... im thinking powerISO
[02:51] <bpcmiller> lol that would work
[02:51] <mytruehero> eck: brb
[02:51] <_Luks> how do i make sudo read the password from a variable ?
[02:51] <TheVault> well how do I know if my wireless is up ubm?
[02:52] <jrib> lhuynh: ah then those docs should serve you well
[02:52] <gili_> what happens when you type "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[02:52] <cpk1> BENN92647: i know it is, 'cd /media' to go into it
[02:52] <irunwithscissors> hey tung
[02:52] <marx2k> TheVault, iwconfig
[02:52] <rick8007> Im typing from the wireless connection but theres no signal strength meter on my desktop task bar
[02:52] <tunganet> yeah..
[02:52] <marx2k> !iwconfig
[02:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iwconfig - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:52] <tunganet> my comp died =[
[02:52] <irunwithscissors> just seeing if you were alive
[02:52] <irunwithscissors> lol
[02:52] <marx2k> this bot dont know @(*&
[02:52] <ubm> _Luks as in a script ? are you asking for code to have it request sudo to build?
[02:52] <TheVault> sudo ifup ethX
[02:52] <TheVault> shit
[02:52] <TheVault> hold on
[02:52] <TheVault> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ iwconfig
[02:52] <TheVault> lo        no wireless extensions.
[02:52] <TheVault> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[02:52] <TheVault> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"<Witt>"  Nickname:"Broadcom 4311"
[02:52] <TheVault>           Mode:Managed  Frequency=2.484 GHz  Access Point: Invalid
[02:52] <TheVault>           Bit Rate=1 Mb/s   Tx-Power=18 dBm
[02:52] <TheVault>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[02:52] <chris> has anyone here been able to install steam under wine?
[02:52] <TheVault>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[02:52] <marx2k> sudo ifdown ath0 && sudo ifup ath0
[02:52] <The_PHP_Jedi> Error 15: File not found
[02:52] <TheVault>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[02:52] <ubm> TheVault sudo ifconfig eth1 up
[02:52] <TheVault>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[02:52] <TheVault> sit0      no wireless extensions.
[02:52] <marx2k> !paste | thevault
[02:52] <ubotu> thevault: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:52] <The_PHP_Jedi> N SPAM
[02:53] <The_PHP_Jedi> Error 15: File not found, gili_
[02:53] <gili_> The_PHP_Jedi: when do you get that error?
[02:53] <marx2k> TheVault, looks like youre up... ping google.com
[02:53] <_Luks> ubm: example: sudo -password $password
[02:53] <The_PHP_Jedi> on find /boot/grub/stage1
[02:53] <_Luks> ubm: something like it
[02:53] <gili_> did you start grub
[02:53] <TheVault> I am using the ethernet cable
[02:53] <The_PHP_Jedi> ?
[02:53] <TheVault> unplug?
[02:54] <The_PHP_Jedi> start grub?
[02:54] <chris> has anyone here been able to install steam under wine?
[02:54] <marx2k> TheVault: see if ifconfig gives you an IP address
[02:54] <marx2k> chris, whats steam
[02:54] <gili_> ok are you at the grub promt/
[02:54] <gili_> ?
[02:54] <rick8007> oh well
[02:54] <The_PHP_Jedi> no gili
[02:54] <gili_> The_PHP_Jedi: open terminal type grub
[02:54] <The_PHP_Jedi> in the cmd prompt, yes
[02:54] <The_PHP_Jedi> terminal
[02:55] <BENN92647> on cpk1 i did that
[02:55] <The_PHP_Jedi> I am in grub in terminal
[02:55] <The_PHP_Jedi> not in boot
[02:55] <TheVault> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:22:AF:E9:41
[02:55] <TheVault>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:55] <TheVault>           inet6 addr: fe80::214:22ff:feaf:e941/64 Scope:Link
[02:55] <TheVault>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[02:55] <TheVault>           RX packets:8986 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[02:55] <TheVault>           TX packets:7285 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[02:55] <TheVault>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[02:55] <gili_> no thats fine
[02:55] <TheVault>           RX bytes:9440771 (9.0 MiB)  TX bytes:606812 (592.5 KiB)
[02:55] <TheVault>           Interrupt:177
[02:55] <marx2k> TheVault, you're connected
[02:55] <The_PHP_Jedi> TheVault: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:55] <TheVault> eth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:17:31:AC:F8:D6
[02:55] <TheVault>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[02:55] <marx2k> and stop spamming
[02:55] <TheVault>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[02:55] <gili_> at the gru prompt type
[02:55] <TheVault>           TX packets:1806 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[02:55] <toulouse> hey guys, i am trying to play bzflag, but the sound doesnt work
[02:55] <TheVault>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[02:55] <TheVault>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:79884 (78.0 KiB)
[02:55] <TheVault>           Interrupt:4 Base address:0x8000
[02:55] <The_PHP_Jedi> NO MORE SPAM
[02:55] <BENN92647> if ubotu sees you pasting he will get mad
[02:55] <gili_>  "find /boot/grub/stage1"
[02:55] <TheVault> lo        Link encap:Local Loopback
[02:55] <toulouse> what should i do to fix it?
[02:55] <synth> TheVault, I hate you
[02:55] <TheVault>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[02:55] <TheVault>           inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
[02:55] <The_PHP_Jedi> I did that gili_
[02:55] <TheVault>           UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
[02:55] <synth> so much
[02:55] <The_PHP_Jedi> that was the error
[02:55] <rick8007> i dont want to crash my card again by experimenting around too much
[02:55] <TheVault>           RX packets:264 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[02:55] <The_PHP_Jedi> Error 15: File not found
[02:55] <TheVault>           TX packets:264 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[02:55] <TheVault>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
[02:55] <cpk1> BENN92647: so what dirs show up when you do 'ls'?
[02:55] <The_PHP_Jedi> TheVault!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:55] <TheVault>           RX bytes:19424 (18.9 KiB)  TX bytes:19424 (18.9 KiB)
[02:55] <toulouse> wtf?
[02:55] <TheVault> sorry guys
[02:55] <TheVault> I don't know how to paste
[02:55] <cpk1> TheVault: please stop
[02:55] <TheVault> im sorry
[02:55] <TheVault> whats the right way to paste?
[02:55] <riotkittie> heh.
[02:55] <TheVault> Sorry guys
[02:55] <toulouse> ban him
[02:55] <synth> Oh, you pasted quite well.
[02:55] <TheVault> I will....someone is helping me
[02:55] <marx2k> !paste | TheVault
[02:56] <riotkittie> !pastebin | TheVault
[02:56] <ubotu> TheVault: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:56] <The_PHP_Jedi> ok..
[02:56] <toulouse> !ban
[02:56] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:56] <BENN92647> what of you mean
[02:56] <COMMUNIST-POPE> Ban who?
[02:56] <irunwithscissors> he's obviously new, don't ban him...
[02:56] <The_PHP_Jedi> gili: I tried that, returns Error 15: File not found
[02:56] <synth> How can i blacklist a driver on boot for Ubuntu installation? having weird laptop hangs on ethernet and I'd like to get past it and install!
[02:56] <The_PHP_Jedi> irunwithscissors: anyone in IRC knows not to spam more than 5 lines
[02:56] <The_PHP_Jedi> :)
[02:56] <COMMUNIST-POPE> synth: use the alternative cd
[02:56] <COMMUNIST-POPE> 1
[02:56] <COMMUNIST-POPE> 2
[02:56] <toulouse> hey guys,i am trying to play bzflag, but i cant because the sound doesnt work, how can i fix this
[02:56] <COMMUNIST-POPE> only 2 lines spammed
[02:56] <irunwithscissors> he just asked for help on pasting...so at least his intentions aren;t evil
[02:56] <TheVault> ubm: anyway pasted off what I pasted, am I good to go?
[02:56] <BENN92647> ubotu almos t banned me yesterday, i had to bribe him with candybars LOL
[02:56] <jrib> the comments about his paste contribute more spam than his actual paste... once one person lets him know that he shouldn't paste, that's enough really :)
[02:56] <ubm> _Luks something like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8168/
[02:56] <The_PHP_Jedi> lol
[02:56] <tunganet> yes
[02:57] <ramza3> ok, I am at the configuration editor, can I change the login window resolution somehow?  gnome-xxxx?
[02:57] <The_PHP_Jedi> gili!!!
[02:57] <tunganet> i should of never touched beryl
[02:57] <gili_> yes i am here
[02:57] <BENN92647> ok cpk1 what am i looking for
[02:57] <h1st0> synth: do you just want to blacklist pcmcia?
[02:57] <The_PHP_Jedi> tunganet: beryl is great
[02:57] <ubm> TheVault yes next time use this link to paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ;)
[02:57] <tunganet> and continued with my happy life with ubuntu only..
[02:57] <rick8007> im trying to see my wireless connection but this guy keeps scolling the page a million times
[02:57] <nalioth> !offtopic
[02:57] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:57] <toulouse> tunganet: beryl be pimp
[02:57] <TheVault> i will
[02:57] <auk> tunganet: yep, yep
[02:57] <synth> h1st0, yeah but how do i do that on installation?
[02:57] <h1st0> synth: ther is a nopcmcia option
[02:57] <cpk1> BENN92647: is there a cdrom0?
[02:57] <irunwithscissors> tung did you do 'apt-get remove beryl'
[02:57] <Sulo_Seppa> Any SLAYER fans here?
[02:57] <The_PHP_Jedi> GILI!!!
[02:57] <tunganet> yea i did
[02:57] <synth> h1st0, it's my ethernet that it's hanging at
[02:57] <h1st0> synth: hit F6 I think or one of them shows the options you can pass.
[02:57] <irunwithscissors> still nothing?
[02:57] <nalioth> !tell Sulo_Seppa about offtopic
[02:57] <tunganet> nopre
[02:57] <cables> !offtopic | Sulo_Seppa
[02:57] <ubotu> Sulo_Seppa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:57] <BENN92647> not when i did cd/ media it didnt show
[02:58] <synth> ah ok
[02:58] <toulouse> hey guys, how can i check if something is blocking my sound card
[02:58] <cables> nalioth, you beat me
[02:58] <toulouse> cause bzflag doesnt have sound
[02:58] <TheVault> ubm: ready to go? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8169/
[02:58] <The_PHP_Jedi> ***GILI***
[02:58] <gili_> The_PHP_Jedi: i dont know man
[02:58] <BENN92647> but in winecfg it shows as a drive
[02:58] <h1st0> synth: err f8 I can't remember but it will tell you exactly what to append by hitting F6 then type in -nopcmcia or something at the end of the line
[02:58] <irunwithscissors> does bzflag use ALSA drivers
[02:58] <The_PHP_Jedi> weird, gug?
[02:58] <The_PHP_Jedi> huh*
[02:58] <BENN92647> it shows as my D: drive
[02:58] <toulouse> irunwith: i believe it uses oss
[02:58] <joshua__> ok, so i've gotten modprobe ndiswrapper to work this time after uninstalling everything. i've restarted and when i iwconfig there's no wlan0 or anything...
[02:58] <irunwithscissors> toulouse: is that what you have enabled?
[02:59] <ubm> TheVault you need to sudo dhclient eth1 ;)
[02:59] <Sulo_Seppa> What month with the April 2007 version of ubuntu be released?
[02:59] <toulouse> i dunno, how can i check?
[02:59] <rick8007> wireless + missing wireless management= ?
[02:59] <SportChick> nalioth: who?
[02:59] <joshua__> Sulo_Seppa: The 19th
[02:59] <toulouse> irunwith, how do i check?
[02:59] <BENN92647> just get linux wireless radar thing it works great
[02:59] <irunwithscissors> toulouse: no idea im rather new, but i bet that's the problem.
[02:59] <ubm> TheVault you need an ip address allocated for your machine if the router is dhcp enabled use that command to obtain one
[02:59] <nalioth> SportChick: toulouse
[02:59] <p47> edgy is a sheet the inetword is slow
[02:59] <Sulo_Seppa> But really, what are some of the major changes? I haven't seen that much from the last two versions.
[02:59] <lhuynh> jrib: lucky you can look at the videos. *heh*
[02:59] <BENN92647> ok cpk1 am i ready to try the installagain LOL
[03:00] <SportChick> toulouse: you were looking for some help?
[03:00] <BENN92647> *install again
[03:00] <h1st0> !releases | Sulo_Seppa
[03:00] <_Luks> how do i pass a variable with a password to the sudo command ?
[03:00] <ubm> TheVault then you can sudo ifconfig eth1 and look for the ip address that was issued to your machine
[03:00] <ubotu> Sulo_Seppa: Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[03:00] <toulouse> sportchick: yes, my sound in bzflag doesnt work
[03:00] <ubm> _Luks did you look at the pastebin i sent you?
[03:00] <BENN92647> dont get AMD 64 ver. lol
[03:00] <_Luks> ubm: nope
[03:00] <TheVault> heres what I got
[03:00] <SportChick> toulouse: ah, jjoin #bzflag
[03:00] <ubm> _Luks http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8168/
[03:00] <cpk1> BENN92647: so the guildwars cd is in /media/cdrom0?
[03:00] <toulouse> sportchick: ok
[03:01] <TheVault> ubm: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8170/
[03:01] <enix> i recently upgraded to 6.10 and some extra icons came up on the desktop that i dont want. gconf-editor used to be the place to solve this problem but when i look in it now the check boxes are gone, so i cannot uncheck 'show specific icon'. how would i remedy this?
[03:01] <BENN92647> how do i find that out?
[03:01] <jrib> enix: what icons?
[03:01] <rick8007> BENN92647: i just uninstalled it cuz it wasnt working should I reinstall it?
[03:01] <enix> computer and trash
[03:01] <h1st0> enix: What icon do you want to get rid of?
[03:01] <cpk1> BENN92647: ... do cd /media/cdrom0
[03:01] <jrib> enix: there are gconf settings for them
[03:01] <jrib> !icons | enix
[03:01] <ubotu> enix: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[03:01] <_Luks> ubm: i saw it
[03:01] <h1st0> enix: you can try just deleting it or gconf-editor apps > nautilus > options I believe is what you are looking for.
[03:01] <ubm> TheVault do this real quick 'sudo ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> up
[03:01] <The_PHP_Jedi> fstab doesn't do anything before GRUB, right?
[03:02] <h1st0> enix: ahh yeah desktop thats it.
[03:02] <ubm> TheVault sudo ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:02] <rick8007> k let me try
[03:02] <_Luks> ubm: but i think you didnt understand me .. i would like something like it:
[03:02] <BENN92647> nothing
[03:02] <BENN92647> its not in there
[03:02] <Matic`Makovec> !compiz > Matic`Makovec
[03:02] <gili_> The_PHP_Jedi: bueno chico tengo que ir a ver mi chica....lastima que no tepodia ayudar
[03:02] <_Luks> password='enter' ; sudo $password commands
[03:02] <enix> i did a nautilus search in gconf but none of the results where simaler to what i delt w/ in 6.06
[03:02] <cpk1> BENN92647: did it give you an error when you did that?
[03:02] <The_PHP_Jedi> k, cya gili
[03:02] <The_PHP_Jedi> thanks :)
[03:02] <BENN92647> inope
[03:02] <BENN92647> no
[03:03] <The_PHP_Jedi> thanks, really :D
[03:03] <_Luks> ubm: password='enter' ; sudo $password commands
[03:03] <TheVault> alright, it just brings me back to another line
[03:03] <cpk1> BENN92647: so type 'ls' and see if anything is in it
[03:03] <BENN92647> just ls?
[03:03] <jrib> _Luks: man sudo   and seach for 'stdin'
[03:03] <BENN92647> or the little marks to
[03:03] <enix> apps/nautilus/desktop is blank
[03:03] <cpk1> just ls
[03:03] <jrib> enix: there are keys in there, no?
[03:04] <TheVault> sudo ifconfig eth1 <IP_ADDRESS> i typed that and then i press enter and then it just goes to ubuntu@ubuntu
[03:04] <BENN92647> YAY!
[03:04] <_Luks> jrib: how do i get a text from stdin ?
[03:04] <TheVault> like another line
[03:04] <BENN92647> its there
[03:04] <Zambezi> How bad is it to have a printerserver and IRC-server on a webserver? I guess it's really bad. The problem is I have to many computers so I would like to put two togeter.
[03:04] <enix> so is apps/nautilus/icon_view & apps/nautilus/list_view
[03:04] <darkside> ha @all, can someone provide a little help with vnc login to gdm?
[03:04] <auk> i there any way to, say, use apt-get on a live cd to read off and installed system and upgrade *that* system?
[03:04] <The_PHP_Jedi> **fstab doesn't do anything before GRUB, right?**
[03:04] <tedu> me need some help pls
[03:04] <jrib> _Luks: by using sudo -S as sudo's man page explains
[03:04] <ubm> _Luks check out http://egbok.com/sudoscript/ or http://www.komar.org/pres/sudo-tools/ for some examples
[03:04] <auk> *and installed -> an installed
[03:04] <enix> no, no keys or values
[03:04] <BENN92647> lol i still love linux
[03:04] <tedu> to set refresh rate on ati
[03:04] <jrib> _Luks: what is you reason for this?
[03:04] <enix> i could post a screenshot if u think that would help
[03:05] <ubm> _Luks passwd
[03:05] <ubm> ?
[03:05] <BENN92647> ok so now that we know its there what do we do :)
[03:05] <cpk1> BENN92647: so can you see the installer from there?
[03:05] <ubm> what are you using it for what is your objective ? that would help
[03:05] <BENN92647> nope
[03:05] <_Luks> jrib: a graphical script.. i dont want to get the sudo password from the terminal
[03:05] <BENN92647> i can see the folder its in
[03:05] <jrib> _Luks: use gksudo
[03:05] <matty_v> does anyone know how i can install an older version of wine easily?
[03:06] <rick8007> wifi radar isnt quite what i'm looking for
[03:06] <BENN92647> the gwsetup.exe is in the data folder
[03:06] <_Luks> jrib: but if the user dont have GNOME ? then it wont work
[03:06] <_Luks> im using Xdialog
[03:06] <jrib> enix: what does this command return:  gconftool-2 -g /apps/nautilus/desktop/computer_icon_visible
[03:06] <auk> ubm: are you speakign to me?
[03:06] <jrib> _Luks: I suppose
[03:06] <cpk1> BENN92647: ok so type 'cd' to go back to your home dir and then do 'wine /media/cdrom0/data/gwsetup.exe'
[03:06] <ubm> auk no
[03:07] <BENN92647> k
[03:07] <enix> no value set
[03:07] <eck> matty_v: see if you can grab an old deb from the wine website or from the repositories
[03:07] <Cyco> has anyone setup a test environment with KVM - - > do you know the extensions that your processor must meet in order to have acceptable speed
[03:07] <darkside> Does someone know what the message RFB 003.008 means while trying to start Xvnc??
[03:07] <_Krull_> Can I have ubuntu and Windows on my PC and have a choice of what to boot?
[03:07] <ubm> _Luks you could use a script to have the sudo pwd print to image
[03:07] <BENN92647> dam it!
[03:08] <eck> e.g. by getting something from the breezy repositories
[03:08] <Cyco> krull yes check guides for dual booting
[03:08] <matty_v> thanks eck
[03:08] <BENN92647> why is it going to directory L
[03:08] <kitche> _Krull_: yes
[03:08] <ElllisD> today i powered up my box & my screen resolution's off the screen- I move the mouse over & the screen moves across the monitor like on google maps- i dist-upgraded last night- X -configure gets me error 11- what happened?
[03:08] <_Krull_> kewl
[03:08] <Cyco> very simple (dual booting)
[03:08] <BENN92647> it says:Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible
[03:08] <cpk1> BENN92647: run winecfg and tell me and take a screenshot of the drives tab
[03:08] <ElllisD> ive got 2 vga outs, could that be enabled suddenly?
[03:08] <cpk1> BENN92647: does it error out or keep going?
[03:08] <TheVault> ubm: well I switched over to the eth1 and but i went to a website and nothing
[03:09] <TheVault> ubm: showing no signal
[03:09] <BENN92647> errored out
[03:09] <_Krull_> do I go to help.ubuntu.com? to learn how?
[03:09] <zithowa> i put in a new hard drive and now GRUB will not boot my system (giving me error 17: partition not found)
[03:09] <jrib> enix: I see... there is some way to have gconf refresh the schema or something.  Does anyone here know how to do that?
[03:09] <tedu> need help w ati pls
[03:09] <ubm> TheVault is DHCP enabled on the router
[03:09] <BENN92647> how do i send you a sreen shot
[03:09] <TheVault> ummmm
[03:09] <TheVault> lemme check
[03:09] <ScottLij> zithowa, did you make the new drive the slave drive?
[03:09] <ElllisD> tedu: me, too- wanna trade?
[03:09] <enix> i have rebooted after the upgrade
[03:09] <zithowa> ScottLij: no, it is the master
[03:09] <tedu> y
[03:09] <BENN92647> *screen
[03:10] <ElllisD> tedu: whats up w/ yours? mine's got a desktop off the screen- the whole things scrolling
[03:10] <ScottLij> zithowa, that is the problem, it changed the hard drive names, the partitions aren't where grub thinks they are
[03:10] <cpk1> BENN92647: actually do 'ls -l .wine/drive_c/' and make sure you own everything
[03:11] <tedu> i need to get 100 at 1280
[03:11] <BENN92647> k
[03:11] <tedu> now im 85
[03:11] <tedu> at 1280
[03:11] <enix> i just got a software update notifacation, and when i clicked it is said i need a dist-upgrade, i thouht i did all this the the other day, wtf?
[03:11] <Soccer5555> windows me owns all
[03:11] <ElllisD> tedu: Hz?
[03:11] <tedu> y
[03:11] <tedu> 100 Hz
[03:11] <ramza3> can I get sun's java from apt-get
[03:12] <ramza3> with 6.06
[03:12] <zithowa> ScottLij: well it is strange: I previously had my OS on the slave drive, and now I have just swapped out the master for another master
[03:12] <BENN92647> it went to the next line and froze
[03:12] <TheVault> ubm: now my internet is being a idiot
[03:12] <jrib> enix: is nautilus-data installed?
[03:12] <tedu> i use this 2 nd metod http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[03:12] <ubm> ramza3 did you add multiverse repositories?
[03:12] <ElllisD> tedu: I don't know off the top of my head, but I bet you could poke around in xorg.conf & find where it says 85's cool & add 100 in there
[03:12] <TheVault> won't let me get on websites but i am able to chathere
[03:12] <zithowa> ScottLij: I do not understand how the system derives hard drive names
[03:12] <ramza3> ubm: I havent but I can
[03:12] <ScottLij> zithowa, is there a different number of partitions on the new hard than the old one?
[03:12] <ubm> ramza3 you need to add those repos :)
[03:12] <enix> i dunno. like i said this is only a recent problem, how do i check
[03:12] <zithowa> ScottLij: I think so
[03:12] <enix> do a find?
[03:13] <ubm> TheVault is dhcp enabled on the router?
[03:13] <jrib> enix: apt-cache policy nautilus-data
[03:13] <tedu> i try this SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024_100" EndSubSection
[03:13] <tedu> but dun work
[03:13] <ubm> ramza3 go here to add repos http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[03:14] <ubm> ramza3 then sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin
[03:14] <enix> nautilus data: installed: 2.16.1-0ubuntu3
[03:14] <ScottLij> zithowa: This isn't exactly changing hard drives but its pretty darn close: http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/4232/1/
[03:14] <ElllisD> tedu: on my xorg.conf the syntax uses a @ rather than a _
[03:14] <TheVault> alright, i just disabled the wireless and now its working
[03:14] <BENN92647> did you leave me cpk1
[03:14] <starkruz1> can someone gimme some scripting help?  I have some bmps in a directory tree that I want to DFS through (like cp -R would do) and use convert to convert them from bmp to jpeg.  any idea how I could do that?
[03:14] <Intelligitimate> I just downloaded the update to Firefox, and now I can't click on anything. I can't right click to download stuff, I can't click on any menu options, etc.
[03:14] <tedu> wow i ll try
[03:14] <TheVault> ubm: logging in router now
[03:14] <ubm> TheVault reboot your router and renable wifi then sudo dhcpclient eth1
[03:14] <cpk1> BENN92647: what?
[03:14] <siegfried__> how do I install monotone? When I use apt-get install monotone I get an old version (.24) and I need a recent version.
[03:15] <BENN92647> i did the 'ls -l .wine/drive_c/
[03:15] <jrib> enix: does /usr/share/gconf/schemas/apps_nautilus_preferences.schemas exist?
[03:15] <tedu> did u try w fglrxinfo
[03:15] <jdhoreotg> how do you check your disk space via terminal?
[03:15] <BENN92647> it shows nothing
[03:15] <ElllisD> tedu: whats that?
[03:15] <obake-san> hey, i got 1 question. what format is best for non-os drives in ubuntu?
[03:15] <tedu> video info
[03:15] <enix> is it shemas or schems
[03:16] <tedu> to see wht drv u use
[03:16] <ElllisD> tedu: k, so $fglrxinfo ??
[03:16] <tedu> wo $
[03:16] <TheVault> ubm: yeah dhcp is enabled on the router
[03:16] <Intelligitimate> Anyone know what went wrong with Firefox with the latest update?
[03:16] <enix> yes, it is there
[03:16] <enix> should i gedit the file?
[03:17] <ubm> TheVault sudo dhclient eth1 do you get the same results now?
[03:17] <BENN92647> i was so close to getting it lol
[03:17] <ElllisD> tedu: fglrxinfo says Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:17] <ElllisD> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual!
[03:17] <jrib> enix: try to prefix what you say with my nickname so my hilight will catch it.  No, don't edit the file, try:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure nautilus-data
[03:17] <tedu> did u install the org ati drv?
[03:17] <enix> jrib: ok
[03:18] <TheVault> apparently i got a connection
[03:18] <Jake333> i need help with resolutions
[03:18] <ubm> TheVault try using the network manager in System --> Admin --> Networking
[03:18] <Malay_Linux> Hi
[03:18] <TheVault> alrighty
[03:18] <Jake333> i am using 1080i and its too big for the screen
[03:18] <ubm> TheVault Ping www.google.com
[03:18] <Jake333> like a little too big
[03:18] <ElllisD> tedu: i dunno- i did apt-get fglrx one day i think
[03:18] <Jake333> how can i pan it
[03:18] <ubm> make sure your ethernet i.e. eth0 is down
[03:18] <Jake333> to make it work
[03:18] <Jake333> like whats a good resolution
[03:18] <Jake333> that wil work
[03:18] <ElllisD> tedu: did the @ do it?
[03:18] <Zambezi> Is it a bad idea to put IRC-server and printserver on a public webserver?
[03:18] <tedu> try this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[03:19] <tedu> but 2 nd metod
[03:19] <TheVault> is it good with the ethernet and wireless are both using dhcp
[03:19] <ubm> TheVault did you get it up?
[03:19] <crimsun> Zambezi: generally one would want a separation of orthogonal services/daemons, yes
[03:19] <enix> *jrib: my man. i cant wait til i have skills like the ones the people who help me do
[03:19] <tedu> w org ati drv
[03:19] <rjefferson> oh no, someone please help me
[03:19] <rjefferson> does anyone use lvm?
[03:19] <ubm> TheVault dosnt matter as long as eth0 is disabled when eth1 is enabled
[03:19] <Jake333> anyone help me?
[03:19] <TheVault> oh ok
[03:19] <TheVault> lemme do that now
[03:20] <Trelard> looks like feisty fawn herd 4 iso still hasn't fully fixed the AGP 8X issue
[03:20] <lmosher> Can anyone suggest a music program w/ really good visualizations (or a specific visualization)?
[03:20] <ubm> TheVault once we are finished im going to show you how to forward X to your windows machine so you can run apps from your ubuntu box on your windows machine
[03:20] <ElllisD> tedu: k, but what do you mean by 2nv?
[03:20] <Zambezi> crimsun, That's why I haven't installed it yet. But I'm not to happy to have five computer running 24/7 when I might have to pay the bill myself.
[03:20] <enix> jrib: i had to check the value, then uncheck it
[03:20] <tedu> second metod from guide
[03:20] <foormea> hey
[03:20] <tedu> download rpm
[03:21] <zithowa> ScottLij: thanks, that explains things very well
[03:21] <crimsun> Zambezi: then consider using VM images
[03:21] <ElllisD> tedu: this guide give me some newfound hope! tyvm!
[03:21] <TheVault> this is crazy
[03:21] <jrib> enix: k, make sure your upgrade has completed successfully
[03:21] <ramza3> ubm: if I use the gui way, can I just click 'multiverse'
[03:21] <Jake333> anyone help me
[03:21] <Jake333> ?
[03:21] <ElllisD> tedu: 2nd method- gotcha
[03:21] <tedu> then make debs
[03:21] <foormea> i don't understand why this:     conky &> /dev/pts/0 | tee conky.log &      doesn't work. it either redirects output to /dev/pts/0 but doesn't write conky.log
[03:21] <TheVault> for the address in Network Manager, it shows one min the wireless has the address DHCP and then a sec later it says this device needs configured
[03:21] <ScottLij> !ask | jake333
[03:21] <ubotu> jake333: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:21] <ubm> ramza3 yes
[03:21] <BENN92647> lol
[03:22] <ElllisD> tedu: make debs- sounds scary, but ill give it a shot
[03:22] <tedu> i ve problems w overscan
[03:22] <enix> jrib: i thought i had, is there a way to double check
[03:22] <TheVault> keeps switching back and forth
[03:22] <tedu> do u ve?
[03:22] <ElllisD> ve?
[03:22] <tedu> overscan on tv?
[03:22] <ElllisD> ???
[03:22] <ubm> TheVault what does the adapter?
[03:22] <Zambezi> crimsun, I might do. But can I have a webserver and virtual computer on a P3 550 with 512 MB ram or should I add 256 MB? Both computers running Dapper drake without X.
[03:22] <jrib> enix: just run dist-upgrade again and make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed
[03:22] <ubm> TheVault sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[03:23] <tedu> see u :)
[03:23] <tedu> i ll try
[03:23] <ElllisD> tedu: is overscan what this scrolling desktop is?
[03:23] <TheVault> still crazy
[03:24] <enix> jrib: k, thanks a bunch man
[03:24] <ubm> TheVault did you remove the ethernet cable from your ethernet device?
[03:24] <metalhedd> i just installed 6.10 and am doing the 137 available updates. its been Setting up capplets-data for close to ten minutes now.. this doesn't seem right, is it stuck?
[03:24] <ST47> Hi guys
[03:24] <ST47> I have a friend who just installed ubuntu
[03:24] <ST47> and when he boots, the screen goes all wreid
[03:24] <ubm> if you disable in the network manager it will not re-enable the device ;)
[03:25] <BENN92647> ok just ran into a guy that says dont even bother installing GW's on linux you'll just get pissed at linux
[03:25] <rjefferson> would someone send me the pv programs?
[03:25] <rjefferson> i can barely boot right now
[03:25] <metalhedd> GW's?
[03:25] <marx2k> guild wars
[03:25] <BENN92647> he had it installed and spent most of the days getting the patches to work in linux
[03:25] <ubm> TheVault issue this command then pastebin  sudo iwconfig
[03:25] <BENN92647> guild wars
[03:25] <metalhedd> oh
[03:25] <nexous> Where can I find the files of bluefish, besides /home/USERNAME/.bluefish ?
[03:25] <ElllisD> metalhedd: mine hung at a number of points, but not 10 mins- on a dual 850 w/ 1G
[03:26] <Intelligitimate> Anyone know what went wrong with Firefox with the latest update?
[03:26] <BENN92647> best thing to do is a dual boot looks like
[03:26] <BENN92647> but i dont want to
[03:26] <metalhedd> ElllisD: i jhit ctrl+c and it said error procecessing gnome-control-center, dependency problems. now its carrying on with the rest.
[03:26] <lmosher> Can anyone suggest a music program w/ really good visualizations (or a specific visualization)?
[03:26] <metalhedd> should I do something afterwards to have it clean up whatever just happened?
[03:26] <BENN92647> so now that that nightmare is over LOL
[03:27] <ElllisD> metalhedd: dpkg --configure -a
[03:27] <BENN92647> i can play tweak LINUX
[03:27] <Intelligitimate> I just downloaded the update to Firefox, and now I can't click on anything. I can't right click to download stuff, I can't click on any menu options, etc.
[03:27] <BENN92647> firefox plug ins are created by satan
[03:27] <metalhedd> ElllisD: thanks. now its failing a bunch of others because the control center isn't configured.
[03:27] <xamox> What package do I need to isntall to get java SWT support?
[03:27] <ElllisD> Intelligitimate: Can you click other stuff? just firefox doesnt listen to mouse?
[03:28] <Intelligitimate> Yeah.
[03:28] <ubm> Intelligitimate did you restart firefox or shut it down completely after updates?
[03:28] <Intelligitimate> Firefox doesn't listen to the mouse, except like clicking a link. No right-clicking, no menu clicking, etc.
[03:28] <enix> will apt-get install kde get me a kde WM along w/ gnome
[03:28] <Intelligitimate> Yeah, I think so.
[03:28] <Intelligitimate> I may need to restart the whole system.
[03:28] <metalhedd> enix: i think its apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:28] <crimsun> Zambezi: the more RAM the better
[03:28] <ubm> Intelligitimate ps -ax is it running now?
[03:28] <BENN92647> hey cpk1 wanted to thank you again for putting in the time to help me with guild wars, but even if i did install it it would have been a hassle
[03:29] <Intelligitimate> I have restarted it a bunch of times, ubm.
[03:29] <enix> that wont do a fresh install, just the WM, right?
[03:29] <metalhedd> enix: right
[03:29] <jmworx> tritium_: any news of Speex on Dapper 64?
[03:29] <enix> metalhead: thanks
[03:29] <BENN92647> maybe i can get asteriods to work LMAO
[03:29] <metalhedd> enix: n/p
[03:29] <ElllisD> l8r- dinnertime
[03:30] <enix> metalhead: can i do the same w/ fluxbox
[03:30] <metalhedd> enix: yeah, probably just apt-get install fluxbox
[03:30] <enix> metalhead: coolbeans
[03:30] <metalhedd> enix kde is the only one with its own "meta-package"
[03:30] <ScottLij> `1234567890-[poiuytrewqsdfghjkl;'
[03:30] <metalhedd> if you will
[03:31] <Zambezi> crimsun, 768 MB ram for two computer without X. It should be fine or I can buy another 256 MB, but not now.
[03:31] <ScottLij> oops
[03:31] <enix> metalhead: ok
[03:31] <enix> metalhead: not entirley sure what that means, but i will look it up
[03:31] <metalhedd> the package "kubuntu-desktop" is really just a list of a ton of other kde packages that will be installed.
[03:32] <nexous> Where can I find the files of bluefish, besides /home/USERNAME/.bluefish ?
[03:32] <metalhedd> most other WM's are small enough that they're just 1 package.
[03:32] <adam_> I can't access my samba shares from network neighborhood.  I've even duplicated a working smb.cfg from another computer, but to no avail.  What else could be wrong?
[03:32] <enix> metalhead: but i have to select kde form sessions at login right, will be like a whole new desktop
[03:33] <got_a_bean> nexous: did you try the locate command in the terminal?
[03:33] <enix> metalhead: *from
[03:33] <nexous> got_a_bean: no, how do I do that?
[03:33] <ST47>  from grub, I need a command prompt
[03:33] <R[a] ndom> locate .bluefish
[03:33] <ST47> how?
[03:33] <nexous> okay thanks.
[03:33] <got_a_bean> nexous:  in the terminal just type:  locate .bluefish
[03:34] <got_a_bean> or locate bluefish  (no dot)
[03:34] <metalhedd> enix: Right-o.. after installing kubuntu-desktop your login screen will probably switch from gdm to kdm.  not sure off hand how to switch it back,  but they're both pretty much the same anyway.
[03:34] <got_a_bean> It should find anything with bluefish in the name
[03:34] <enix> metalhead: i can live w/ that
[03:34] <got_a_bean> and tell you where the results are located
[03:35] <metalhedd> enix: actually if I remember correctly, after installing kubuntu-desktop it will ask you which login manager you want to use.
[03:35] <Cyco> etc/X11/default-display-manager
[03:35] <obake-san> hey, when i try to install a tar.gz, i get an error
[03:35] <Cyco> change above to gdm/kdm
[03:35] <obake-san> i do a tar -xzf
[03:35] <metalhedd> obake-san: you dont just "install" a tar.gz
[03:35] <metalhedd> :)
[03:35] <enix> metalhead: o- i cant wait to try it, gettin kinda bored w/ gnome
[03:35] <obake-san> then when i try to ./configure
[03:36] <obake-san> it goes through some things
[03:36] <obake-san> and errors saying it cant create executables or something
[03:36] <m_> hello, my swap isn't working. I've unmounted, reformatted, and re-mounted and enabled "swapon" and it still shows no usage. When I use command line I get: m@m-desktop:~$ sudo swapon /dev/sda1
[03:36] <m_> swapon: /dev/sda1: Device or resource busy
[03:36] <metalhedd> obake-san: you probably need to install "build-essential"
[03:37] <goetiaoccultus> whats  a good periodic viewer for ubuntu ?
[03:37] <duderdo> hey
[03:37] <goetiaoccultus> periodic table*
[03:37] <obake-san> build-essential, il check it out
[03:37] <eck> m_: check the output of free
[03:37] <duderdo> how do I list the files' whole path with ls? for instance "/home/duderdo/foo" instead of just "foo"
[03:37] <ScottLij> off topic but:  how do I save my channel list in XChat?
[03:37] <anewbie> Hello there... (I just don't know if I'm allowed to ask questions... I haven't registered yet... can't find where is "/motd." can anyone help? thanks. )
[03:38] <m_> m@m-desktop:~$ free
[03:38] <m_>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[03:38] <m_> Mem:       1555492    1480636      74856          0      51676    1011928
[03:38] <m_> -/+ buffers/cache:     417032    1138460
[03:38] <m_> Swap:      4192956      39640    4153316
[03:38] <eck> m_: you are using your swap
[03:38] <m_> thanks, i see that. don't know what happened. thanks :)
[03:38] <goetiaoccultus> ScottLij click xchat on menu , then network list , then click edit
[03:38] <metalhedd> is it safe to edit menu.lst or is there some ubuntu method to remove all those extra entries in the grub menu
[03:39] <Cyco> it is safe to edit it
[03:39] <eck> m_: i think it used to be the case that swap was shown by mount but it no longer is
[03:39] <duderdo> how do I list the files' whole path with ls? for instance "/home/duderdo/foo" instead of just "foo"
[03:39] <jo3_> man ls
[03:40] <got_a_bean> anewbie: where are you looking for /motd?
[03:40] <duderdo> obviously I already read the manual, I guess they're using a different language than me, I can't find it. hence I am asking in here
[03:40] <scizzy> ok I know you guys have probably heard this a million time, but I just installed ubuntu literally 10 min ago, and I can't get my wireless (broadcom) to connect to my unsecured linksys router
[03:40] <eck> i don't think you can do it with ls
[03:40] <metalhedd> does ubuntu include grub spash images?
[03:40] <eck> you can do it with find, or just use ls -l in conjunction with pwd
[03:41] <duderdo> eck: thank you
[03:41] <scizzy> i type in linksys in the ssid, activate, but then it wont connect, and I can't pick it in the icon in the top right
[03:41] <duderdo> jo3_: sounds like you have no fucking idea what you're talking about! hah!
[03:41] <anewbie> got_a_bean... it says "This channel requires that you have registered and identified yourself with the network's nickname registration services (e.g. NickServ). Please see the documentation of this network's nickname registration services that should be found in the MOTD (/motd to display it)."
[03:41] <Cyco> sudo apt-cache search grub | grep splash
[03:41] <Cyco> pretty boring defaults, look through forums on how to create/download new ones
[03:41] <metalhedd> Cyco: nopers
[03:41] <Cyco> you have extra repos enabled?
[03:41] <metalhedd> oh, i didn't enable the good repos.
[03:41] <metalhedd> :O
[03:42] <Madpilot> ubotu, register | anewbie
[03:42] <ubotu> anewbie: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:42] <scizzy> anyone know how to refresh wireless ssid's  to see which one my wireless card finds...
[03:42] <got_a_bean> anewbie - oh, don't worry about that.  You don't have to register your nickname - only if you want it reserved for you alone
[03:42] <metalhedd> been a while since i used ubuntu
[03:42] <Cyco> iwlist scan for wireless
[03:42] <Madpilot> got_a_bean, some channels require registration for entry, actually.
[03:42] <Q_Continuum_> Okay.  Trying to install Ubuntu on a laptop with no optical drive and no floppy (I have a floppy drive available, if need be) tried doing the netboot install from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows for XP, but it wanted to load the CD-ROM drivers, and I couldn't bypass that. *making another attempt now to bypass the CD-ROM and do a netinstall*
[03:42] <Trelard> Ubuntu Feisty Fawn looks decent
[03:42] <scizzy> how to i use iwlist... I'm so new i just converted from windows
[03:43] <Cyco> open a terminal
[03:43] <got_a_bean> well, yes, but not this one. :-)
[03:43] <Cyco> type iwlist scan  - you may have to specify your wireless interface
[03:43] <eck> scizzy: iwlist scanning eth1
[03:43] <eck> or something like that
[03:43] <scizzy> ok let me try
[03:43] <Cyco> are you using knetworkmanager ?
[03:43] <got_a_bean> anewbie: which irc client are you using?
[03:43] <scizzy> sorry for my newbishness... but I like the simplicity...
[03:44] <goetiaoccultus> whats  a good periodic table viewer for ubuntu ?
[03:44] <sbrath> I've got the latest ubuntu server edition loaded on a AMD board, and after apt-get'ing gcc-4.1   compiling generates gibberish??? WTF?
[03:44] <eck> goetiaoccultus: your web browser
[03:44] <perrone> how can i change my home folder
[03:44] <perrone> ?
[03:44] <eck> or a pdf viewer
[03:44] <Madpilot> sbrath, did you use the build-essential package to get *all* of the basic build tools?
[03:44] <eck> perrone: it is configured in /etc/passwd
[03:44] <eck> just be careful
[03:44] <jrib> perrone: or use usermod
[03:44] <sbrath> Madpilot: let me check, is that apt-get build-essentials
[03:45] <scizzy> my eth1 says "no scan results" but im right next to my router, and it worked when I had windows
[03:45] <Madpilot> sbrath, 'sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:45] <joeyk_> eth1 is not a wlan interface
[03:45] <ffxr> perrone its in users&groups->advanced
[03:45] <anewbie> ah... okay. thanks... guys. anyway, my question is this... until recently, I still can sudo from a terminal. now I get this message "sudo: unable to lookup edubuntu via gethostbyname()". anybody know what happened? thanks.
[03:45] <perrone> eck, i know that, but i tried to change it to /media/sdb5/rafaelperrone and i couldnt log in anymore
[03:45] <scizzy> its the default "linksys"
[03:45] <Cyco> no
[03:45] <timfrost> metalhedd: if the extra entries are older kernels, then you can remove the kernel packages (eg I have linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic and linux-image-2.6.17-11-generic, so can do 'sudo apt-get remove linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17-10-generic').  That will clean up the grub menu
[03:45] <Cyco> try iwlist scan
[03:45] <Cyco> with no interface
[03:45] <anewbie> got_a_bean... I'm using chatzilla
[03:45] <scizzy> i did
[03:45] <Cyco> if no work do ifconfig and what are your interfaces listed
[03:45] <sbrath> Madpilot: That's loaded now, but still gibberish
[03:45] <Freeman> Uhh i have a question: i just installed ubuntu and my wireless doesnt seem to be working
[03:46] <Freeman> I had to go hardline
[03:46] <scizzy> this is what it said...iwlist scan
[03:46] <scizzy> lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[03:46] <scizzy> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[03:46] <scizzy> eth1      No scan results
[03:46] <scizzy> sit0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[03:46] <Madpilot> ubotu, paste | scizzy
[03:46] <ubotu> scizzy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:46] <joeyk_> you dont have a wireless interface
[03:46] <eck> yes, it is eth1
[03:46] <MadP3nGu1n> you might have to enable it
[03:46] <eck> scizzy: maybe the wireless driver isn't working?
[03:46] <Madpilot> sbrath, odd. I avoid compiling like the plague, but installing b-e generally gets things working. What're you looking for that isn't in the repos?
[03:46] <got_a_bean> Oooooh, I haven't figured that one out yet.  But when you sign on you should have the option, in Chatzilla, to register.  Sorry, can'
[03:46] <scizzy> whats wierd is when I enable it, then press OK... it doesn't enable ... i have to go in ad enable it again
[03:47] <sbrath> Madpilot: NoCat.NET
[03:47] <craigbass1976> ubm, did scnning with your cx6000 involve iscan?
[03:47] <Cyco> what wireless card do you have?
[03:47] <got_a_bean> can't remember the exact location of the menus on chatzilla.
[03:47] <MadP3nGu1n> system/admin/networking
[03:47] <scizzy> maybe, but I dont know how to get it to work, and get new drivers(install them)
[03:47] <scizzy> i have broadcom
[03:47] <anewbie> got_a_bean... I recently installed sun jre 5.
[03:47] <scizzy> not sure what model
[03:47] <eck> eww
[03:47] <Cyco> mdoel?
[03:47] <Cyco> lspci
[03:47] <scizzy> the one with my stupid emachines m5405 laptop
[03:47] <Cyco> do an lspci
[03:48] <got_a_bean> anewbie:  wow - I haven't even used that yet.
[03:48] <sbrath> Madpilot: When I check I have gcc-3.4 4.0 and 4.1 all loaded... should I remove the old ones?
[03:48] <scizzy> what is lspci?
[03:48] <Cyco> list pci devices
[03:48] <joeyk_> lists pci devices
[03:48] <joeyk_> lol
[03:48] <joeyk_> jinx
[03:48] <Madpilot> sbrath, shouldn't be needed, gcc can co-exist from what I've read.
[03:48] <scizzy> haha ok let me see
[03:48] <eck> sbrath: no, i would keep them around, some apps will depend on specific versions of gcc to compile correctly
[03:48] <Cyco> hahah
[03:48] <got_a_bean> anewbie:  do you have xchat?
[03:48] <goetiaoccultus> thanks eck but someone pointed me to software called Kalziem
[03:48] <eck> actually, some configure scripts will check the version of gcc
[03:48] <scizzy> Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller
[03:48] <goetiaoccultus> kalzium*
[03:48] <Freeman> also i cant increase the resolution up to 1280x800 so im stuck at 1024x768
[03:49] <scizzy> whats what i have
[03:49] <sbrath> eck: So what other magic pill can I look at to see why it generates garbage? cpp seems to process the .c files corectly
[03:49] <anewbie> got_a_bean, well I really have to, since I need this texting feature of www.chikka.com... for javalite. No, I don't have xchat. I have gaim instead.
[03:49] <eck> you mean gcc?
[03:49] <sbrath> yes
[03:49] <eck> what error?
[03:49] <scizzy> also, when I click "activate" on my wireless connection it takes FOREVER... and now it says active... but the computer icon in the top right doesn't let me select eth1
[03:50] <eck> goetiaoccultus: then use that? I would just use a web browser though
[03:50] <Cyco> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=340689
[03:50] <Cyco> check that scizzy
[03:50] <scizzy> ok
[03:50] <sbrath> eck: When I try to compile something I get "Gibberish" on the screen.
[03:50] <scizzy> i will read that and check back in, thanks so much guys
[03:50] <Cyco> pain in the ass !
[03:50] <eck> sbrath: did you try with the older versions too?
[03:50] <Cyco> good luck!
[03:50] <sbrath> yep
[03:50] <perrone> eck, i tried to change my home folder to another one (/media/sdb5/perrone) but then i couldnt log in and i had to manually edit the /etc/passwd file back to the original home
[03:50] <goetiaoccultus> eck: i  understand what you mean , its cool  :)
[03:51] <rp3> what do I have to do to 'turn' on a joystick?
[03:51] <Freeman> can anyone help me?
[03:51] <joeyk_> is /media/sdb5/perrone mounted on login or is it static?
[03:52] <Hirvinen> !ask | Freeman
[03:52] <ubotu> Freeman: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:52] <eck> perrone: so it works now?
[03:52] <Cyco> freeman did you add the resolution to xorg.conf
[03:52] <Freeman> did i do what?
[03:52] <Cyco> cd /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:52] <Cyco> look in there
[03:52] <anewbie> guys... does it mean, I have to reinstall? I can't gain access to any of my administrative functions. I also can't get to root when I give the command "su", it says wrong password. I suspect my system has been hacked. anyone? thanks.
[03:53] <rbil> Cyco: can't cd to a file :-)
[03:53] <Cyco> Modes     "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[03:53] <eck> anewbie: no, you can boot into single user mode no matter what
[03:53] <matty_v> can anyone here help me install BricsCAD?
[03:53] <erpo> When I try to run the Diablo II installer with wine, it fails. The error message says "Warning: unprotecting memory to allow real-mode calls." followed by "This program cannot be run in DOS mode." What should I do?
[03:53] <joeyk_> and you have a root pw?
[03:53] <Cyco> vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf sorry
[03:53] <eck> if you have been hacked you definitely _want_ to reinstall though
[03:53] <lmosher> Can anyone suggest a music program w/ really good visualizations (or a specific visualization)?
[03:53] <ubm> craigbass1976 yes it did involve iscan
[03:53] <anewbie> eck... just how should i do that. thanks.
[03:53] <joeyk_> xmms
[03:53] <erpo> lmosher: Last time I checked, winamp ran fine under wine in linux. And it has some good plugins.
[03:53] <eck> anewbie: use the rescue option in grub, or if you removed it, add single to the end of the grub kernel line
[03:53] <craigbass1976> where's the epkowa site I keep reading about?
[03:54] <Freeman> k Cyco i found the file now what?
[03:54] <joeyk_> lmosher, xmms is my fav
[03:54] <duckdown> Umm I'm getting DCC CHAT requests from "IndyGunFreak"
[03:54] <eck> anewbie: you will need to start up networking manually if you require it to fix things
[03:54] <duckdown> can someone ban this guy
[03:54] <erpo> duckdown: Just /ignore him.
[03:54] <sbrath> eck: util.c:158: error: gchar was not declared in this scope  <- This is the kind of error I get trying to compile a simple C program
[03:54] <Cyco> freeman open it and look for 1024x768 under modes add "your resolution"
[03:54] <anewbie> eck... ok... manually, does it mean, I can do that in gnome? thanks
[03:54] <Jake333> what do i type in to edit xorg.config in terminal
[03:54] <Cyco> then sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[03:55] <eck> sbrath: it might be a locales issue
[03:55] <Cyco> use nano or vi
[03:55] <joeyk_> or joe
[03:55] <joeyk_> :)
[03:55] <eck> i am not sure how you would fix that though
[03:55] <Cyco> yes or joe LOL
[03:55] <sbrath> eck: how would I check that?
[03:55] <eck> anewbie: reboot, and in grub choose the option that says rescue
[03:55] <fenixarg> how can i install some plug-ins for firefox?
[03:55] <Jake333> idk how to
[03:55] <Jake333> lol
[03:55] <Jake333> like use em
[03:56] <rich__> i'm thinking of a project, can anyone give advice etc?
[03:56] <eck> sbrath: i would check the file encoding of the .c file and make sure it is ascii, i am not sure how you would do that though
[03:56] <joeyk_> the command would be vi /etc/xorg.conf
[03:56] <rich__> i have bought a network client very basic spec pc
[03:56] <eck> i think you can have it displayed by most text editors
[03:56] <joeyk_> err..
[03:56] <nalioth> duckdown: that happened a very long time ago, look at your time stamps
[03:56] <rich__> i want to get this pc to boot into ubuntu, via network boot
[03:56] <joeyk_> sry.. /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:56] <anewbie> thanks, eck.  I will do that now.
[03:56] <rich__> to an old compaq server i have in the loft
[03:56] <rich__> will this work?
[03:56] <anewbie> bye all.
[03:57] <eck> rich__: yes
[03:57] <sbrath> eck: the file is ascii...
[03:57] <timfrost> sbrath: DO you have all the development library packages for the program you are compiling?
[03:57] <eck> it is called pxeboot
[03:57] <eck> thenetwork card has to support it
[03:57] <mbutUbuntu01> hi
[03:57] <mbutUbuntu01> I have a problem
[03:57] <rich__> will the server wake on lan (if it has this bios feature) when the client pc is turned on??
[03:57] <kbrosnan> fenixarg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxPlugins
[03:57] <mbutUbuntu01> I need to use beryl
[03:57] <mbutUbuntu01> and I have an ati radeon xpress 200m
[03:57] <MbV93> Wazza
[03:57] <fenixarg> kbrosnan: thanks
[03:57] <BENN92648> anyone here using compiz?
[03:58] <rich__> ah ok
[03:58] <MbV93> no beryl
[03:58] <mbutUbuntu01> so I downloaded fglrx
[03:58] <Pelo> does anyone use Pan newsreader ?  I need a little help connecting
[03:58] <mbutUbuntu01> but if I write fglrx in xorg.conf
[03:58] <rich__> my main concern about setting this up, is that the server will have to be on all the time
[03:58] <mbutUbuntu01> the graphic server doesn' start
[03:58] <BENN92648> is beryl better? i have an NVidia 6700 GS i think
[03:58] <duckdown> nalioth, ah okay, thanks
[03:58] <Cyco> im off good luck
[03:58] <mbutUbuntu01> can someone help me??
[03:58] <rich__> i am hoping i can set it up to turn off and on with the client
[03:58] <eck> sbrath: the locale stuff is in LANG and the LC_ environment variables... i was just thinking though, i could see gcc getting tripped up if the file encoding is wrong, or else have the output of gcc mangled if it is using a different locale then you
[03:58] <rich__> ?
[03:58] <MbV93> i dunno
[03:59] <MbV93> they're practically the same
[03:59] <cabuloso> please, anyone knows where i can get this icon theme ? -> http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1995/200610182341271280x1024scrotww9.jpg
[03:59] <eck> rich__: http://www.linux-sxs.org/internet_serving/pxeboot.html
[03:59] <eck> rich__: you can also mount the root filesystem over nfs
[03:59] <eck> both options are complicated
[03:59] <mbutUbuntu01> can someone help me??
[03:59] <Pelo> cabuloso,  I thjink that's tango, it's in the basic themes that come with ubuntu
[04:00] <rich__> thankyou :)
[04:00] <MbV93> yes i'll help you
[04:00] <mbutUbuntu01> thanks
[04:00] <sbrath> eck: I think what I need to do is "Remove" locales, so all I have is en_US.utf8
[04:00] <MbV93> well i'll try
[04:00] <cabuloso> Pelo, it's not tango, it's some mod of it...
[04:00] <mbutUbuntu01> MbV93, what can I do??
[04:00] <Pelo> mbutUbuntu01,  can you give us a little more info
[04:00] <mbutUbuntu01> ok
[04:00] <Freeman> cyco everything already says 1280x800 but im stuck at 1280x 1024
[04:00] <mbutUbuntu01> so, I've installed fglrx 3d driver
[04:01] <TomSwift> hello?
[04:01] <mbutUbuntu01> I have an ati graphic card
[04:01] <p47> hey do you have some question on the table/clear
[04:01] <Pelo> cabuloso,  check synaptic for gnome art , or art gnome, or gnome art manager or something similar , it gives you access to a bunch of other themes
[04:01] <COMMUNIST-POPE> Can you run ubuntu off a usb? i got a extra 6GB
[04:01] <Pelo> mbutUbuntu01,  I think you are better off checking the forum
[04:01] <eck> gcc uses utf-8 by default though
[04:01] <cabuloso> Pelo, ok, tanks..
[04:01] <eck> i have no clue
[04:01] <Pelo> COMMUNIST-POPE,  yes,  check the forum for an how to , I knwo there is stuff on that
[04:01] <farous> i have a flexlm server that is required to run matlab. it needs to connect on port 27000 on my localhost. I have opened the port in the firewall and opened all connection to my localhost. yet i get this error can not connect to license server connection refused
[04:02] <mbutUbuntu01> if I set in the xorg.conf ati driver, X11 works, instead if I set fglrx driver X11 doesn't work
[04:02] <mbutUbuntu01> why??
[04:02] <Q_Continuum_> I need help installing Ubuntu on a laptop with NO optical drive.  Won't boot from USB. Instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows fail.
[04:02] <mbutUbuntu01> Pelo, what??
[04:02] <Pelo> mbutUbuntu01,  because you con'T have a fglrx card ? maybe
[04:02] <TomSwift> anyone have tips for dealing with ipv6/ipv4 problems in ubuntu?
[04:02] <farous> any command line to check if the port is actually opened ? port 27000@localhost
[04:02] <Q_Continuum_> I have an external USB floppy drive available, if needed.  wired network and flash drives are available.
[04:02] <h1st0> farous: netstat
[04:02] <CarlFK> I have a cd with squashfs.img - is there some way to mount -o loop that?  my try says ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy/mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:02] <mbutUbuntu01> Pelo, but fglrx is for ati video cards
[04:02] <MbV93> I'M SEXY
[04:02] <MbV93> I'M SEXY
[04:02] <rbil> mbutUbuntu01: or didn't install the proprietary driver?
[04:02] <MbV93> I'M SEXY
[04:02] <Pelo> mbutUbuntu01,  check the forum for your problem , chances are you'll find some information there
[04:02] <MbV93> I'M SEXY
[04:02] <MbV93> I'M SEXY
[04:02] <h1st0> farous: netstat -a | grep 27000
[04:02] <joeyk_> errr
[04:02] <mbutUbuntu01> and I have an ati radeon xpress 200m
[04:02] <MbV93> LOL
[04:03] <BENN92648> anyone here know if I install and IDE hard drive with windows XP and select it as  my second IDE master will I be able to boot into it if LINUX is on my sata drive as a master?
[04:03] <eck> Q_Continuum_: you can try to pxeboot, but i have not done this successfully
[04:03] <Pelo> !op
[04:03] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos or tonyyarusso
[04:03] <farous> h1st0, thanx
[04:03] <Mez> Madpilot, too quick for me
[04:03] <Hobbsee> and me
[04:03] <Q_Continuum_> eck: looking for a faster solution, I don't have a *nix box set up to do the hosting :-/ All I have here is a 64-bit install of XP Pro.
[04:03] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, quicker than the Pointy Hobbsee of Doom? Amazing! ;)
[04:03] <BENN92648> anyone here know if I install and IDE hard drive with windows XP and select it as  my second IDE master will I be able to boot into it if LINUX is on my sata drive as a master?
[04:04] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: i dont have scripts.
[04:04] <farous> h1st0, i need a command line to find if the port is open and ready to connect not if it is connecting to something right now
[04:04] <Pelo> BENN92648,  I have that setup on my comp and it works fine , just set the drive you want to boot from in your bios and let grub do the rest
[04:04] <eck> Q_Continuum_: tbh, i think you are best off removing the drive, installing on another computer, and then replacing it again
[04:04] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, no? Which IRC client?
[04:04] <farous> h1st0, the command returned nothing so no active connection. I need to make sure that it is not closed
[04:04] <Q_Continuum_> eck: Crap. Laptop with the HD below everything else in the case :-/
[04:04] <BENN92648> oh cool so it will show in the boot drive menu HDD0 and then an HDD01
[04:04] <metalhedd> Ok, I just switched my server from gentoo to ubuntu, I used to be able to mount my samba shares without a password but I can't now. :( where do I configure this?
[04:04] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: konversation
[04:05] <TomSwift> any tips on about:blank problem with firefox on ubuntu?
[04:05] <h1st0> farous: well if you netstat -a it should spew out everything.
[04:05] <eck> Q_Continuum_: i am not sure if it is possible to install grub from windows, if it is then there is a method using that
[04:05] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, and it has no kool skripts to klobber trolls with?
[04:05] <h1st0> metalhedd: in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:05] <h1st0> metalhedd: you need to change the settings for the share.
[04:05] <farous> h1st0, it gave me nothing I think as nothing is connecting through that port
[04:05] <Q_Continuum_> eck: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows has instructions, but they crap out when it wants to partition :(
[04:05] <metalhedd> h1st0: theres no ubuntu gui for that eh?
[04:05] <metalhedd> :(
[04:05] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: no, not really
[04:05] <Pelo> BENN92648,  I don't know about that part but I I have  and IDE for my winxp and a sata for linux and I boot from the sata with grub and I can boot my winxp from grub when I need it
[04:05] <joeyk_> TomSwift, whats the prob?
[04:05] <ross> hi. KDE hides my "home" and "trash" icons. How do I stop it doing that?
[04:05] <h1st0> farous: something should come up if you netstat -a
[04:06] <h1st0> metalhedd: i'm sure there is but I just use smb.conf on the samba server.
[04:06] <BENN92648> how do you switch back and forth?
[04:06] <h1st0> metalhedd: most servers don't have gui
[04:06] <farous> i got all my connections :) i know how to use netstat -tup too
[04:06] <Madpilot> Hobbsee, how do KDE channel ops deal with Gnome users, then? ;)
[04:06] <eck> Q_Continuum_: are you using the grub from dos option?
[04:06] <BENN92648> im really new to the whole dual boot thing
[04:06] <Q_Continuum_> eck: grub
[04:06] <rich__> eck it reads to me like a method to install linux to the client machine over a network
[04:06] <joeyk_> you have to reboot to load the other os
[04:07] <BENN92648> ugh
[04:07] <Q_Continuum_> eck: I'm installing from XP
[04:07] <BENN92648> that sucks
[04:07] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: oh i can kickban, and all that, and have various things, but not the instant way that you do, all prewritten.  ie, it's like xchat with no chanserv.py
[04:07] <rich__> i was hoping the os could be executed on the server not the client
[04:07] <eck> rich__: you can have the kernel on the server
[04:07] <metalhedd> h1st0: i thought it might be do-able through the 'shared folders' since that's how I set up the share in the first place.  i'm not sure the setting i'm looking for to have a no-password access.. could you maybe enlighten me? security=none or something?
[04:07] <farous> ok here is another question can I ping a specific port on my localhost ?
[04:07] <eck> rich__: the client loads the kernel from the server (using pxe), and from there you can have the kernel load the filesystem over the network, or whatever you want to do
[04:07] <Pelo> BENN92648,  if you are talking to me state my name please ,   I installed windows first making sure that I have the ide set as boot drive in the bios,  when that was done I changed the boot drive in the bios to the sata and installed ubuntu,  when installing ubuntu grub found I had a windows install and made a menu to chose from at boot so I could select which os to boot,   If I need to go from one to the other, I just reboot and select the o
[04:07] <Pelo> ther one
[04:07] <h1st0> metalhedd: I believ you want security=share  instead of user
[04:08] <BENN92648> so i have to log out of linux go into bios reset boot priorty?
[04:08] <h1st0> metalhedd: make sure you remove the ; in front of it too.
[04:08] <joeyk_> BENN92648, no you should have a boot loader to choose the os
[04:08] <h1st0> metalhedd: let me get a good tutorial that will explain the smb.conf better.
[04:08] <metalhedd> h1st0: much appreciated
[04:08] <rich__> so the client still has to be capable of running the kernel
[04:08] <eck> Q_Continuum_: yes, but did you get grub installed? the instructions are on that page
[04:08] <BENN92648> ok pelo thank you
[04:08] <Pelo> BENN92648,  no you don'T  you just need to reboot the computer and you avhe a boot menu
[04:08] <h1st0> metalhedd: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Samba_Server
[04:09] <eck> rich__: ???
[04:09] <h1st0> metalhedd: I think you want read/write authentication=no
[04:09] <Q_Continuum_> eck: Yes, I can run it fine - but when it gets to the partitioner it bails.
[04:09] <h1st0> metalhedd: should be security = share
[04:09] <eck> Q_Continuum_: in the ubuntu installer?
[04:09] <Q_Continuum_> eck: No root filesystem is defined. Please correct this from the partition menu <Go Back> <Continue> *Selects "Go Back" and gets stuck in a loop with this menu*
[04:09] <Q_Continuum_> eck: yes, the last line is the error I get.
[04:09] <Q_Continuum_> eck: regardless of the partitioning option I get.
[04:09] <ComputerHermit> can I use apt-get security update?
[04:10] <robbie_crash> who here is familiar with gtkpod?
[04:10] <TheDebugger> me
[04:10] <rich__> i was hoping, all the client machine would have to do is relay inputs to the server and output to the monitor, shifting all of the emphasis onto the server.
[04:10] <concept10> is there a way to turn this autoremove stuff off?
[04:10] <robbie_crash> TheDebugger:  I'm getting an error when adding directories that says that files don't exist
[04:10] <eck> rich__: then it will be easiest to just install linux on the client and use something like ltsp
[04:10] <BENN92648> Pelo-oh, ok well right now i am looking to put the 40G and 80G IDE hard drives in my computer, when I do this i start up my computer go into bios and set the IDE with XP as my boot drive am I right so far?
[04:10] <lunux> ff
[04:11] <eck> Q_Continuum_: try the netinstall kernel
[04:11] <robbie_crash> that's a blatant lie, what can I do to get around it?
[04:11] <eck> Q_Continuum_: let me find the link
[04:11] <h1st0> concept10: what auto remove stuff?
[04:11] <Q_Continuum_> eck: something like this? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/
[04:11] <Pelo> BENN92648,  just while you install windows,
[04:11] <concept10> h1st0, apt-get autoremove
[04:11] <h1st0> concept10: What do you want to do?
[04:11] <eck> Q_Continuum_: yes, you want the boot.iso file (~8 mb)
[04:11] <BENN92648> pelo-XP is alreay installed on the IDE drives
[04:12] <metalhedd> h1st0: i dont see any such authentication option... i set security=share but the default config doesn't mention read write authentication anywhere
[04:12] <eck> use the kernel and initrd in the iso
[04:12] <TheDebugger> robbie_crash: Never had that kind of errors :( Only for the album arts
[04:12] <concept10> h1st0, I want to turn it off
[04:12] <Q_Continuum_> eck: where do I put that?
[04:12] <Pelo> BENN92648,  then you donT' have to do that,  set your boot drive to sata and install ubuntu on it ,  the installation will take care of the rest
[04:12] <eck> oh, i guess you can just use the vmlinuz and initrd.img there
[04:12] <concept10> h1st0, I dont want autoremove to remind me of that
[04:12] <h1st0> metalhedd: You can specify down at the folder.  If you see the link I sent you hwoto share a public folder with read/write authentication=no
[04:12] <robbie_crash> TheDebugger: :( bummer
[04:12] <h1st0> concept10: well then run sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:12] <Q_Continuum_> eck: I also used the feisty version, think that would break it?
[04:12] <h1st0> concept10: to fix it.
[04:13] <eck> Q_Continuum_: so you have grub boot with that kernel and initrd, and the network installer should be not broken
[04:13] <concept10> h1st0, never mind - youre not getting it
[04:13] <h1st0> concept10: No, I'm not I can't see your screen so I don't know what you are trying to do.
[04:13] <eck> well use the netinstall kernel for whatever release you want to install, the feisty netinstall could be broken though
[04:13] <BENN92648> Pelo-ok i have ubuntu on my sata right now so i will install the IDE drives in my computer then turn on the computer and I will have a list of what I wante to boot into, am i correct?
[04:13] <Q_Continuum_> eck: options for partitioning method: "0" "Guided - resize net-retriever and use freed space" "Guided - use entire disk" "Guided - use entire disk and set up LVM"
[04:14] <robbie_crash> I'm getting so many weird errors "File type known but analysis failed" on mp3s, valid files that I can play saying they're non-existant
[04:14] <h1st0> concept10: from the brief bit you've told me I assume its because you are getting a message to run apt-get autoremove.  Well if you run it that message will go away.
[04:14] <metalhedd> h1st0: oh I didn't see the link. thanks
[04:14] <Q_Continuum_> eck: any option results in the error :-/
[04:14] <concept10> h1st0, I said - "I want to turn it off"  That means I don't want it to manage my packages in this way.
[04:14] <h1st0> metalhedd: yeah you should be able to specify fmask and dmask I believ in theer or something similiar.
[04:14] <h1st0> concept10: ahh. Well you could flag the packages it wants to remove to keep them.
 i have checked the client spec is NeoLinux
[04:14] <eck> Q_Continuum_: i am not really familiar with the text installer. you can get another kernel that lets you boot from a live cd with a better partitioning tool to do the partitioning beforehand though
[04:15] <joeyk_> BENN92648, thats right
[04:15] <h1st0> concept10: but as far as turning that feature off I dunno if there is a config for apt-get
[04:15] <Pelo> BENN92648,  ok , in that case : no you won'T because GRUB won't have checked your system for other operatiing systems at install , but you can add the entry so it will boot windows,  , just install your stata drive , boot, come back here from the ubuntu, and I will tell you what to add to your grub menu and how
[04:15] <eck> Q_Continuum_: e.g. it is possible to use this method to boot a real live cd
[04:15] <h1st0> !codecs | robbie_crash
[04:15] <ubotu> robbie_crash: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:15] <joeyk_> ahh.. i see
[04:15] <h1st0> robbie_crash: restricted formats being what you want.
[04:15] <Q_Continuum_> eck: as in from an image off a USB drive for example? I can do that, it just can't boot from the USB flash drive directly.
[04:16] <BENN92648> pelo- i am ready
[04:16] <eck> Q_Continuum_: i believe so
[04:16] <Q_Continuum_> eck: any idea where to look?
[04:16] <Pelo> BENN92648,  ok , we'll do this in pm if you don'T mind,
[04:16] <eck> Q_Continuum_: you need to set up grub to be able to see the other device
[04:16] <Drkepilogue> Hi, i am wondering  how good is the wireless support in Ubuntu.  I used the live cd, but was not able to try out the internet..(is it normal??)
[04:16] <BENN92648> K
[04:16] <robbie_crash> h1st0: it's not a codec issue I don't think, cause I can play mp3s, and aac files and all the rest, and it's not all of the files gtkpod is importing, it's sporadic, not even whole directories, only certain files within them
[04:16] <eck> drop into the grub shell in windows
[04:16] <concept10> h1st0, the reason why is this, I remove a package from the xubuntu-desktop meta-package, for example like gnumeric, and autoremove reminds me everytime to remove the rest of the xubuntu-desktop
[04:16] <BENN92648> how do i PM
[04:16] <lunux> help me,please.I want to go into china-ubuntu
[04:17] <jediborger> does anyone here have experience with editing the sudoers file?
[04:17] <h1st0> concept10: There is no way to fix that. xubuntu-desktp is just a meta package and doesn't containt anything.
[04:17] <preaction> concept10: it's reminding you to remove the meta-package itself, not all the packages it relies on
[04:17] <Q_Continuum_> eck: as in boot to windows, and then run grub? *slightly confused on that instruction*
[04:17] <concept10> preaction, thats not true
[04:17] <h1st0> concept10: but if you remove a package that xubuntu-desktop depends on it wants to remove xubuntu-desktop by default.  You can safely remove it and not worry.
[04:17] <metalhedd> h1st0: one problem i've always had, even with my previous setup... maybe you could shed some light.. even when the password isn't required, i always get prompted for it when I mount the partitoion.. i can enter anything i want. its kind of annoying thouhg.
[04:18] <h1st0> metalhedd: when you mount the share in linux?
[04:18] <concept10> h1st0, I know I can safely remove, but I dont want autoremove reminding me to remove the rest of the contents of the meta-package
[04:18] <metalhedd> h1st0: yes
[04:18] <eck> Q_Continuum_: i am not sure exactly what you want to do, but basically grub has a devices.map (i think that is the filename) that tells it what devices are on the system. you need to be making sure that the usb drive is listed in that file, and then it is possible for grub to boot off another device than the one it is installed on, in this case the external drive
[04:18] <h1st0> metalhedd: yeah you need to speicfy the guest option
[04:18] <h1st0> metalhedd: i.e. mount -t smbfs //server/public /media/share -o guest
[04:18] <Trelard> everytime I try to use the HTTP protocol in Unbutu i get the black screen of death.. Now, wh would it do that?
[04:18] <mindstate> is anyone familiar with ktorrent?
[04:18] <h1st0> metalhedd: I just went throught hat yesterday.
[04:19] <Trelard> and would anyone have any idea of how to fix that issue
 LTSP looks perfect - thankyou :)
[04:19] <Q_Continuum_> eck: I'll see if I can find something on that, if you have an idea of where to look that would be great - I just need to be pointed at the documentation and I *should* be able to get it from there.
[04:19] <h1st0> metalhedd: if you want to do it in fstab thats a little trickier.
[04:19] <eck> Q_Continuum_: i know how to do it in linux, i just don't know how the windows version of grub works :-/
[04:19] <metalhedd> h1st0: brilliant. thank you. i did do it in fstab actually.
[04:19] <eck> Q_Continuum_: see if you can find the device.map file
[04:19] <Tails3> maybe a NIC card that is not Linux compabable?
[04:19] <Q_Continuum_> eck: ah.  Booting back to Windows
[04:20] <h1st0> metalhedd: line would be like //server/public /media/share smbfs   rw,guest,fmask=666,dmask=777
[04:20] <h1st0> metalhedd: you can't use umask in fstab with a samba share.
[04:20] <Trelard> Tails: nope... it works fine.. it downloaded all the updates
[04:20] <h1st0> metalhedd: You ahve to use fmask and dmask.
[04:20] <Tails3> k
[04:20] <metalhedd> h1st0: yep
[04:20] <metalhedd> //fserv/FREE            /free           cifs            auto,guest,rw,nopasswd,users,uid=1000,gid=1000  0 0
[04:20] <Trelard> but why would it black screen?
[04:20] <Trelard> it only does it on HTTP
[04:21] <h1st0> metalhedd: yeah there ya go.  You can use smbfs instead of cifs if you have smbfs installed also.
[04:21] <metalhedd> h1st0: i'm not sure if it will do it on boot up though... it didn't before i added guest.
[04:21] <Tails3> wierd
[04:21] <metalhedd> h1st0: i was under the impression cifs was the new smbfs
[04:21] <h1st0> metalhedd: well you could sudo umount /free then sudo mount -a and see
[04:21] <h1st0> metalhedd: Ahh that I don't know just ignore me on cifs thing then.
[04:21] <metalhedd> h1st0: i looked into it, pretty sure i'm right. :)
[04:22] <h1st0> metalhedd: cool I'll have to check it out.
[04:23] <javiolo> any idea how to mount a mac HFS+ partition on osx ?
[04:24] <rp_> anyone know how to test a joystick?
[04:24] <javiolo> I tried mount -t hfsplus /dev/hdec /media and doesnt work
[04:24] <h1st0> javiolo: mount it on a mac?
[04:24] <fog_proxy> Hi all. I want to use apt-get install libopencdk8-dev, but the version is 0.5.7-2; and libopencdk8 installed in my pc is 0.5.9-1, apt-get show me the error:'libopencdk8-dbg: Depends: libopencdk8 (= 0.5.7-2) but 0.5.9-1 is to be installed', How to fix the issue?
[04:24] <h1st0> !mac | javiolo
[04:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:24] <h1st0> !mount | javiolo
[04:24] <ubotu> javiolo: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:25] <eck> Q_Continuum_: maybe this isn't possible... the grub docs indicate that grub can only boot from BIOS drives, so if the bios can't see an external drive you might be out of luck
[04:25] <rusty> hello
[04:25] <h1st0> rusty: hola
[04:25] <d00by> for some reason after installing xgl and beryl, all my fonts are really tiny, can anobody help me?
[04:25] <eck> Q_Continuum_: did you try using grub to boot the live cd?
[04:25] <fog_proxy> any help will be appreciated
[04:25] <javiolo> !diskmounter
[04:25] <rusty> como te iiamas
[04:25] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[04:25] <sbrath> should my LANG=en_US.UTF-8 or just en_US ??
[04:25] <h1st0> d00by: support for xgl compiz is in #ubuntu-effects
[04:25] <h1st0> d00by: or beryl wahtever
[04:25] <Q_Continuum_> eck: no, because I don't have an optical drive, internal or external.
[04:26] <eck> Q_Continuum_: i think the issue is that the installer cannot modify an active partition
[04:26] <eck> so if the installer is loaded on a partition you cannot resize that partition
[04:26] <userund> fog_proxy: you could try symlinking your available lib to the one it's looking for
[04:26] <h1st0> fog_proxy: how did you install libopencdk8?
[04:26] <Q_Continuum_> eck: Ah... :-/
[04:26] <Spaghetti_Knife> Hi. I locked myself out of my wireless adapter. How can I get back in? I forgot the password.
[04:26] <fog_proxy> h1st0: I just do apt-get install libopencdk8
[04:26] <Spaghetti_Knife> Anybody  know of any good software?
[04:27] <h1st0> !any | Spaghetti_Knife
[04:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about any - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:27] <h1st0> !anyone | Spaghetti_Knife
[04:27] <ubotu> Spaghetti_Knife: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:27] <fog_proxy> h1st0: seems the repository is wrong
[04:27] <userund> Spaghetti_Knife: yes, tons
[04:27] <rusty> my synaptic wont open, i get this error "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[04:27] <eck> Q_Continuum_: i am not sure if there are any windows utilities that let you resize a live partition
[04:27] <fog_proxy> userund: just link?
[04:27] <eck> if there are, then you are in luck
[04:27] <Spaghetti_Knife> userund: Please?
[04:28] <h1st0> fog_proxy: hrm.. thats wierd  maybe make a post on the forums or file a bug.  Or perhaps try removing cdk8 and apt-get install libcdk8 and libcdk8-dev
[04:28] <fog_proxy> userund: seems good idea,but how about the header files?
[04:28] <userund> fog_proxy: since the versions aren't so different it could work.  and if it doesn't then it's not like you've installed a new program, just a link
[04:28] <h1st0> fog_proxy: or whateve rthe exact names where.
[04:28] <Q_Continuum_> eck: I could install partition magic, sorta...I'm beginning to think I'm hosed on this one though :-/
[04:28] <userund> Spaghetti_Knife: please what?  Be specific in your question
[04:28] <fog_proxy> h1st0: I can't remove it now, since many packages depends on it
[04:29] <Spaghetti_Knife> userund: You said that there's software for breaking back into my router. How do I do that? I made a stupidly long password and forgot it.
[04:29] <eck> Q_Continuum_: you aren't in a great situation if you cannot boot off of any external devices and you only have one partition
[04:29] <ElllisD> krandrtray shows no sizes & says "Required X Extension Not Available" & fglrxinfo says Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". I'm lost as to where to begin on this.
[04:29] <fghj> how do I do this query? "what package provides pgm.h" (apt-cache search pgm.h does not work)
[04:29] <h1st0> fog_proxy: well you could try forcing the install of the dev package.  But perhaps someone else has experienced this issue thats why I would check on the forums or follow someone elses advice.
[04:29] <Q_Continuum_> eck: exactly.  I have a floppy I could use, but then I don't have enough space I think for a normal boot image anymore :-/
[04:29] <eck> i don't think you can downsize a hot ntfs partition, even in partitionmagic
[04:30] <fog_proxy> userund: I just wonder, does apt-get check the dependence from a library name?
[04:30] <h1st0> Spaghetti_Knife: You would have to google for your type of router but there should be a master reset.
[04:30] <Armyboy30> Im trying to compile my first kernel.  Im useing a web site as a guide but Im having a problem.  It tells me to "fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image kernel_headers"  but when I do that I get  "/usr/bin/fakeroot: 152: make-: not found".  Can anyone tell me what the problem is?
[04:30] <h1st0> Spaghetti_Knife: little button on the back you push with a pen
[04:30] <eck> there are floppy install options, but i am not sure if they actually work or are still maintained
[04:30] <userund> Spaghetti_Knife: ah, sorry, I hadn't seen your previous question.  Why do you need to crack the pw?  Most likely you can just reset it, check the router's manufacturer site
[04:30] <Q_Continuum_> eck: you can, but windows doesn't like you much anymore.
[04:30] <fghj> how do I do this query? "what package provides pgm.h" (apt-cache search pgm.h does not work)
[04:30] <Q_Continuum_> eck: exactly, I don't think I can floppy install anymore...too big
[04:30] <ElllisD> Spaghetti_Knife: Isn't there a reset button?
[04:30] <h1st0> Armyboy30: you need make-kpkg installed.
[04:30] <fog_proxy> h1st0: how to force install? does apt-get have and options?
[04:30] <userund> fog_proxy: good question, I'm not sure.
[04:30] <Spaghetti_Knife> EllisD: Hmmm... Cool. I'll do that once my brother stops playing Crackdown online.
[04:30] <h1st0> fog_proxy: -F i think or -f  man apt-get should show you.
[04:31] <Armyboy30> h1st0:  cool, thanks.  Tought it was an easy fix but wasnt sure
[04:31] <kierkier> hello!
[04:31] <Spaghetti_Knife> userund: But cracking software would be nice.
[04:31] <fog_proxy> h1st0: well, thanks
[04:31] <rusty> --force-all -i
[04:31] <ElllisD> lol @ spag
[04:31] <h1st0> Armyboy30: yeah you may want build-essentials I believe its in there.  Its a meta package with a bunch of compiling stuff.
[04:31] <ElllisD> anyone wanna help me get r&r working again?
[04:32] <eck> Q_Continuum_: well i guess that leaves you with physically removing the drive, or doing a pxe install :-(
[04:32] <peeps> this isn't really an ubuntu specific question, but does anyone know if it is possible expand an existing RAID array with an additional drive?
[04:32] <rusty> my synaptic wont open, i get this error "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[04:32] <rusty> whats that
[04:32] <eck> peeps: what raid level?
[04:32] <Q_Continuum_> eck: exactly.  I also didn't see a PXE boot option, suprisingly
[04:32] <peeps> eck: well, it is hypothetical, but I would say 5
[04:33] <h1st0> rusty: does it prompt you for a password?
[04:33] <eck> Q_Continuum_: on my laptop there is a special key that i can hit during post, or you might be able to set the network card as a boot device
[04:33] <eck> how old is the computer?
[04:33] <kierkier> when booting to the live cd install on a desktop it keeps coming up with acpi cooling device cannot turn 'on'
[04:33] <eck> peeps: definitely not 5
[04:33] <rusty> no
[04:33] <peeps> i want to build a nice large file server, and would like to be able to expand it in the future if need be
[04:33] <eck> peeps: probably raid 1 or 0
[04:33] <techie_> I have dual boot xp and ubuntu? Any way to read my pdf's in xp through ubuntu?
[04:33] <sbrath> eck: solution found for my locale issue, I needed to set my /etc/environment LANG="en_US" and install localepurge and dump all the other locales that seemed to have been loaded
[04:34] <h1st0> eck: or lvm
[04:34] <Q_Continuum_> eck: not very, its a Pentium M...but it fors ome reason doesn't have a netboot option :-/
[04:34] <h1st0> !lvm | peeps
[04:34] <ubotu> peeps: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:34] <eck> yes, lvm is probably the best solution
[04:34] <bakefy> I need help mounting a second hard drive.
[04:34] <jlgaddis> peeps: Run LVM on top of your RAID arrays.
[04:34] <h1st0> !mount | bakefy
[04:34] <ubotu> bakefy: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:34] <ElllisD> techie_: captive ntfs i think
[04:34] <eck> Q_Continuum_: how can you not boot from a usb device if it is not very old???
[04:34] <eck> what model?
[04:35] <Q_Continuum_> eck: I have no idea.  its an nc4010...I'm goign to try hooking the drive back up and firing it all the way into windows, and powering down...see if it just didn't detect it or something.
[04:35] <Q_Continuum_> compaq/hp
[04:35] <techie_> <ElllisD do I need to install it? Also my xp is in Fat 32 not NTFS
[04:35] <bakefy> h1st0: I dont want to format... it already have linux format... and some files... do i still need those programs?
[04:35] <h1st0> rusty: well thats the issue
[04:36] <rusty> yeh
[04:36] <ElllisD> techie_: I think then you can just mount the drive
[04:36] <eck> Q_Continuum_: i assume you have seen this? http://lackof.org/matt/hacking/hpnc4010/
[04:36] <rusty> i tryed to install xgl/compiz
[04:36] <h1st0> bakefy: you can just mount /dev/<partition> /<mountpoint>
[04:36] <ubuntu_> ?
[04:36] <rusty> and the update screwed me
[04:36] <ubuntu_> hey...i have a question
[04:36] <Q_Continuum_> eck: yes
[04:36] <techie_> <ElllisD thanks, I will have to figure how to do that.
[04:36] <h1st0> rusty: log out and log back in see if it works if not you may have an issue with sudoers file
[04:36] <rusty> xorg didnt load
[04:36] <h1st0> !sudo | rusty
[04:36] <ubotu> rusty: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:36] <eck> so there must be a pxe boot option somewhere
[04:36] <ubuntu_> does anyone know how to boot Ubuntu live on a Mac with Intel?
[04:37] <h1st0> rusty: Well if X didn't load you can run a gui program like synaptic
[04:37] <ubuntu_> and whats that?
[04:37] <h1st0> !intel | ubuntu_
[04:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:37] <rusty> i got it up and goin
[04:37] <preaction> ubuntu_: you need to install rEFIt, theres a whole thread about it on the ubuntu wiki
[04:37] <h1st0> rusty: It works now?
[04:37] <bakefy> thanks h1st0
[04:37] <rusty> but i think that was the issue
[04:37] <eck> it looks like it can be enabled in the BIOS
[04:37] <h1st0> bakefy: np you can look at fstab if you want to mount it on boot.
[04:38] <rusty>  gui = works root power = pooped
[04:38] <linuxor> HI,Please Where can I find MATLAB for linux ?
[04:38] <peeps> if I used LVM, i don't get any protection from hard drive failure from what I understand.  (unless I do a full mirror, which seems a waste compared to RAID 45)
[04:38] <peeps> i mean 5
[04:38] <eck> you can install a tftp server on windows, but i am not sure how difficult it is
[04:38] <bakefy> that is my next step.  I am following a how to.
[04:38] <ubuntu_> thanx i'll try it
[04:38] <h1st0> rusty: I believ ein the link ubotu sent you there is info on fixing sudo
[04:38] <blackes1> join #mythtv
[04:38] <eck> that is how the windows computers on campus boot
[04:38] <Frogzoo> peeps: LVM is an overlay - you can LVM on top of raid 5
[04:39] <rusty> okie dokie
[04:39] <h1st0> peeps: yeah lvm would jsut be a way to add volumes to the array.
[04:39] <h1st0> peeps: or remove.
[04:39] <Pelo> brb
[04:39] <vontux> does anyone in here have trouble with getting gnomebaker to burn dvds?
[04:40] <bakefy> h1st0, why would my fstab be blank?
[04:40] <peeps> Frogzoo: so if I run LVM on top of RAID 5, then to add volumes I would have to create another RAID array(if I wanted any redundancy on the new drives)
[04:40] <jlgaddis> peeps: Yes.
[04:40] <blackes1> vontux k3b is nicer
[04:40] <peeps> hmm
[04:40] <jlgaddis> peeps: But using LVM, you can "grow" your existing volumes instead of creating new ones.
[04:40] <mark06> I have a question about speakers and sound cards
[04:40] <eck> peeps: bottom line, is that you can't really expand raid 5 easily
[04:40] <bakefy> h1st0, wait I figured it out.
[04:41] <gravemind> I want to decode flac files and recode them in mp3. can I do that with a pipe?
[04:41] <jlgaddis> peeps: e.g. you add new physical drives, create a logical drive from them, then go into Linux and grow your LV's (say, expanding your /home partition from 50GB to 100GB on the fly).
[04:41] <vontux> blackes1: lets say I don't want to install kde on my machine w/ a dvd burner
[04:41] <Frogzoo> peeps: you add whatever LVM deviced to a LVM group you like - raided or not
[04:41] <ElllisD> why does fglrxinfo show that mesa rather than ati's the gl renderer?
[04:42] <eck> maybe it is
[04:42] <Q_Continuum_> eck: found and enabled PXE boot...now, how to set that up via Windows...(I could do a VMWare install if I absolutely have to...that might be the easiest...)
[04:42] <ElllisD> shouldnt it be ati tho?
[04:43] <rich__> *sigh* i love ubuntu
[04:43] <javiolo> how can I check if a hd is working correctly ?
[04:43] <Spaghetti_Knife> Anybody know where the airsnort channel is? I looked on #airsnort.
[04:43] <rich__> where has it been all my life
[04:43] <Spaghetti_Knife> Which server is it on?
[04:43] <blackes1> ellis-d you do not have composite disabled i reckon
[04:43] <eck> Q_Continuum_: you can use any tftp server, there are several for windows because this is a pretty common thing to do
[04:43] <Q_Continuum_> ZOMG!  IT SEES THE USB HARD DISK!
[04:44] <Q_Continuum_> eck: now it sees the NIC AND the USB HD...
[04:44] <eck> lol
[04:44] <ElllisD> blackes1: will look into that ty
[04:44] <Q_Continuum_> eck: time to try the USB stick again....*sighs and starts on it* We'll know in ~5 minutes if its going to work or not...
[04:44] <blackes1> i would look into the radeon driver instead if it works for you its a lot better than ati it took me 4 days to find that out
[04:45] <peeps> eh, i'm starting to think my RAID idea is not worth the effort.  maybe just LVM over regular drives
[04:45] <eck> i would just put grub and the netinstall on the usb disk
[04:45] <eck> i also have a "legacy free" laptop with no CD drive
[04:46] <Q_Continuum_> eck: I honestly have no idea which instructions to use for putting the netinstall on the USB drive.
[04:46] <eck> peeps: they are for different things. raid is for redundancy (and speed), lvm is for presenting multiple devices as one area to the OS
[04:46] <ElllisD> blackes1: I thought fglrx was the driver for radeon- what do you mean?
[04:47] <eck> Q_Continuum_: just put the kernel and initrd on the usb disk and install grub onto it. when you boot off the usb stick it will pop up a grub screen
[04:47] <blackes1> basically there are 3 drivers (not including vesa) the ubuntu driver ati's driver and the radeon driver
[04:47] <peeps> eck: i know, i kind of liked the idea of redundancy, but without any simple expandability it seems more trouble than its worth for me
[04:47] <eck> i think i might have a grub entry to demonstrate
[04:48] <eck> peeps: there are raid configurations that allow you to expand, they just have trade offs
[04:48] <ElllisD> brb- restarting x after disabling composite
[04:48] <eck> i think raid 10 for example
[04:48] <linuxgx> Any one know when the next release is planed for?
[04:48] <SimplySeth> so there is no mirror for us yanks ?
[04:48] <blackes1> all 3 work to an extent but radeon extends a bit further you will find that beryl will install with the radeon driver for example i also saw a higher framerate with glxgears compared to the ati driver
[04:48] <eck> linuxgx: april
[04:48] <linuxgx> tks
[04:49] <Spaghetti_Knife> Anybody here use airsnort?
[04:49] <peeps> yeah, i can't really afford full mirroring(2x disks) though
[04:49] <mag_> hey can you help me with my network ? some hours ago I have 6.06 and all work's fine but now with edgy the network and internet is ver slow
[04:49] <Q_Continuum_> eck: I'll just try using the USB drive for the whole thing real quick, that would be faster than a netinstall anyway.
[04:49] <peeps> i want the best of all worlds
[04:49] <Q_Continuum_> eck: If that doesn't work, then I'll try just grub + netinstaller
[04:49] <bakefy> how do I remove the files on my hard drive that show the locked icon
[04:50] <BENN92647> pelo- it seems to have worked i have tried to get into XP but it did show a menu
[04:50] <blackes1> mag wireless broadcom ?
[04:50] <eck> Q_Continuum_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/8177/
[04:50] <BENN92647> *i didnt try to get in to XP
[04:50] <StereoSkit> dudes, is edgy the last ubuntu code name?
[04:50] <preaction> bakefy: edit their properties to allow writing, and then delete them? or open a terminal and sudo rm "filename"
[04:50] <eck> that is what i used when i installed onto this laptop
[04:50] <BENN92647> My sata drive is crunching that has me worried LOL
[04:50] <SimplySeth> I'll take that as a no
[04:50] <eck> ok, well in principle its all the same
[04:50] <eck> put the stuff on the usb drive, boot it with grub
[04:51] <BENN92647> nm hes not here
[04:51] <eck> whether the stuff is a real install Cd or a netboot kernel is up to you :-)
[04:51] <peeps> StereoSkit: Edgy is the most recent (non-beta) Ubuntu release
[04:51] <StereoSkit> peeps: k, thnx
[04:51] <ElllisD> blackes1: I added lines to xorg.conf to disable composite & fglrxinfo still shows its using mesa & not ati like I expected but I no longer get an XF86 thing missing error & krandrtray works again- shouldnt it say ati where it says mesa tho?
[04:51] <bakefy> preaction: I am not the owner, I cant change the permissions
[04:52] <mag_> internet and network slow, please help me !
[04:52] <preaction> bakefy: then maybe it's a good idea that you can't delete the file?
[04:52] <BENN92647> ok for all the n00b noob n00bs like me/spend $40 get a 40G IDE drive and install XP on it or vista...trying to run online games in lixus through wine will just make you hate linux
[04:52] <Q_Continuum_> eck: So which way would I install grub to do the netboot?
[04:52] <blackes1> EllisD you trying to run beryl by any chance ?
[04:52] <BENN92647> but LINUX RULES!
[04:52] <Naik0> hey how do i upload an folder subdirectorys and files with LFTP?
[04:52] <bakefy> preaction: I know what the files are.  They were put there when I was figuring out samba sharing.  now I cant delete them
[04:52] <ElllisD> blackes1: not on purpose- I don't know what that is
[04:52] <eck> Q_Continuum_: i will explain this more fully, then perhaps it will all make sense :-)
[04:52] <BENN92647> ok ubotu im done
[04:53] <FlippantBird> can someone help me get my graphics drivers working?
[04:53] <digi_> does anyone know of a program that graphs disk usage?
[04:53] <BENN92647> is it Nvidia or ATI
[04:53] <FlippantBird> ati
[04:53] <Q_Continuum_> eck: I understand what we're trying to do - build a netboot disk with just grub and the netboot installer...but how to install grub I'm stuck on (All these different instructions are getting confusing)
[04:53] <preaction> bakefy: you get to open up a terminal then. you can either use sudo rm, or you can use sudo chown to change the owner
[04:53] <BENN92647> ubuntu has one built in
[04:53] <FlippantBird> i cant get direct rendering
[04:53] <JamesBee1> anyone know anything about taskbar compiz?
[04:53] <fuzzyevolution> need some help on setting up 2 monitors
[04:53] <bakefy> thanks... preaction
[04:53] <ElllisD> digi_: X -configure
[04:53] <SimplySeth> well that's stinks .. oh well
[04:54] <BENN92647> system monitor
[04:54] <eck> Q_Continuum_: the same way as you installed it on your main hard drive
[04:54] <BENN92647> it works great
[04:54] <Q_Continuum_> eck: Ok.  Now I can follow those instructions :D
[04:54] <ElllisD> digi_: no, wait- sudo X -configure
[04:54] <FlippantBird> what is system monitor
[04:54] <fuzzyevolution> any tips on setting up dual monitors
[04:54] <eck> oh, grub4dos is chainloaded it looks like
[04:54] <BENN92647> ok well i am going to try and boot in to XP lol wish me luck
[04:55] <JamesBee1> how do i start taskbar compiz
[04:55] <blackes1> ellis_d https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver?highlight=%28radeon%29 that should help
[04:55] <digi_> EllisD: why would I want to configure x? im trying to see what folders are taking up the most space on my external drive.
[04:55] <rbil> fuzzyevolution: too specific to the type of grahics card you're using and monitors attached.
[04:55] <fuzzyevolution> dual monitor help?? w/ubuntu
[04:55] <ElllisD> digi_: oops, wrong nick
[04:55] <bakefy> preaction: how do I type a space in my filename for terminal?
[04:55] <eck> Q_Continuum_: are you OK with wiping the usb drive?
[04:55] <digi_> :) thats ok
[04:55] <Naik0> hey how do i upload an folder subdirectorys and files with LFTP?
[04:55] <ElllisD> :)
[04:55] <Q_Continuum_> eck: it is blank.  No issues.
[04:55] <R[a] ndom> fuzzyevolution, nvidia or ati?
[04:55] <Q_Continuum_> eck: Got a better option?
[04:56] <preaction> bakefy: either use quotes or escape the space by putting a \ in front of it
[04:56] <JamesBee1> how do i start taskbar compiz
[04:56] <bakefy> thanks
[04:56] <ElllisD> digi_: filelight
[04:56] <arredju> help me please i am a complete noob to ubuntu i came on a floating window pane after dealing with vista on my new laptop and im having troubles installing FUSE
[04:56] <arredju> can anyone help me?
[04:56] <kenthomson> HELP-when i went to preferences>themes, and selected the 'human' theme in-effect the human-blue theme was reflected. Even on selecting window=border, icon, controls theme for human, human-blue was showing in the display. Can anyone tell me where my origincal human theme went, and how do i use it?
[04:57] <eck> there is an image you can cat onto the drive that includes a bootloader, you can install it from windows with the windows dd tool
[04:57] <eck> err, there is a port of dd for windows
[04:57] <bakefy> preaction: what is the terminal commad to remove a directory?
[04:57] <madmax> rm -r
[04:57] <preaction> bakefy: man rm
[04:57] <SimplySeth> rm -fR dirname
[04:57] <ElllisD> <--- floats after eating windowpane, lol
[04:57] <kenthomson> bakefy, "rm -rf directory_name"
[04:57] <Q_Continuum_> eck: link? *goes to find windows-port of dd*
[04:58] <bakefy> thanks!
[04:58] <FlippantBird> help please! my xorg.conf says Driver "fglrx" but fglrxinfo reports Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:58] <FlippantBird> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[04:58] <FlippantBird> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[04:58] <FlippantBird> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[04:58] <FlippantBird> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.5.1)
[04:58] <arredju> can anyone help with this error that i get after trying to install FUSE?
[04:58] <madmax> anyone know how to setup dual monitors with an nvidia card?
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> !paste | FlippantBird
[04:58] <ubotu> FlippantBird: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:58] <FlippantBird> ...
[04:58] <kenthomson> !twinview | madmax
[04:58] <ubotu> madmax: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[04:58] <FlippantBird> so much for great community help...
[04:58] <ElllisD> FlippantBird: Me, too- just fixed that a minute ago by disabling composite
[04:58] <FlippantBird> how?
[04:59] <eck> Q_Continuum_: http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz
[04:59] <Q_Continuum_> eck: how do I want to dd that over? *isn't a guru with dd* heh
[04:59] <FlippantBird> is it in xorg.conf?
[04:59] <ElllisD> i had a link- ill look up the bookmark- brb
[04:59] <kenthomson> eck thats a hell of a path
[04:59] <eck> yes it is
[04:59] <ElllisD> yeah- add a few lines
[04:59] <arredju> eck its me remember?
[04:59] <arredju> can you help me?
[04:59] <madmax> ok if I change the driver to "nvidia" in xorg.conf X windows won't work
[04:59] <madmax> right now it is set as "nv"
[04:59] <kenthomson> madmax you have nvidia-driver installed?
[04:59] <kenthomson> !nvidia | madmax
[04:59] <ubotu> madmax: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:59] <eck> http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
[05:00] <SurR3AL> hhey every1....i got a slight problem....i downloaded ubuntu edgy last nite with utorrent.....but my modem got switched off sometime this mornin, n when i checked my comp, in utorrent, the download was stopped at 94.6%, but when i check the file size of whatever's downloaded, i get 698MB, (732,293,120 bytes) which is exactly the size of the direct .iso download also.....it also completely got extracted with 7-zip....but its worries me coz utorrent dint show
[05:00] <madmax> I did apt-get install nvidia-glx
[05:00] <eck> you want to unzip the file and copy it onto the drive with dd
[05:00] <ElllisD> FlippantBird: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide
[05:00] <eck> then it will be magically bootable, and have the edgy installer even
[05:00] <eck> arredju: yes
[05:00] <SurR3AL> oh cool....
[05:00] <SurR3AL> so it will work?
[05:00] <kenthomson> madmax, you surely want to check that link i gave you to see if it is correctly installed
[05:00] <SurR3AL> (i'm a major newbie :))
[05:00] <FlippantBird> thank you
[05:00] <ElllisD> blackes1: ty for the ati link
[05:00] <ElllisD> FlippantBird: np