[14:57] <luisp> Hi Guest93: we don't assign static IPs, but it is possible to launch an instance with a bridged network in manual mode and configure Netplan inside the instance to give the new interface the IP


[00:05] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: maybe is gonna be best to take that out from eucalyptus-common into a new package
[00:06] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, o/
[00:07] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: ok so I was thinking, what's the purpose of euca-* commands?
[00:07] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: are those to be run only
[00:07] <RoAkSoAx> on the CLC
[00:07] <RoAkSoAx> or on any machine that install eucalyptus-common?
[00:08] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, euca-* could be run remotely
[00:08] <hggdh> from a machine external to the cloud
[00:09] <hggdh> the hell is that there are euca-* in euca2ools and in eucalyptus*
[00:09] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: uhmmm
[00:11] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, nothing prohibits you from installing euca2ools on your laptop and using it there to control an Eucalyptus cloud elsewhere (or EC2)
[00:12] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: ok so as far as I can see the
[00:12] <RoAkSoAx> python module euca_admin is only shipped with the eucalyptus source
[00:13] <hggdh> yes. It seems to be used by some *other* euca-* -- like add-user, delete-user, and perhaps others --
[00:13] <RoAkSoAx> while euca2ools ships a whole set of euca-* commands that do not use the euca_admin module
[00:13] <hggdh> yes
[00:14] <hggdh> these seem to be restricted to running under the cloud
[00:14] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: hggdh so what we could do is separate those euca-* commands and moduel into a separate packages and maybe from euca2ools also install them/it as a Dependency
[00:14] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: right euca_admin module seems to be run under the could
[00:14] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, I would like to know *why* eucalyptus split the euca-*, first of all
[00:15] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: because those binaries that use euca_admin seem to be only for the CLC: the source is organized as: /clc/tools/src/euca_admin/
[00:16] <hggdh> before we go and split them. the euca-* admin functions would -- most probably -- be restricted to the CLC, I do not know why
[00:16] <hggdh> since -common is installed in the CLC, there is no missing dependency
[00:16] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: whose the contact in eucalytpus for this?
[00:16] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, Dmitrii, or Daniel, IIRC
[00:16] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: right but -common is also installed in the NC,CC,walrus, sc
[00:17] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: nicknames?
[00:17] <hggdh> hum
[00:17] <hggdh> on the #eucalyptus channel...
[00:18] <hggdh> cerealkllr is, I think, Daniel
[00:19] <hggdh> deckie is from Eucalyptus, but I do not remember his name... Chris?
[00:19] <hggdh> I do not see any that I would associate with Dmitrii, but I do not remember even chatting with him
[00:21] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, another bit of data: I can create an user with euca-add-user, but the user is created disabled, and I cannot see how to enable it :-(
[00:31] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: ok so I guess the best is to separate the euca-* binaries shipped in eucalyptus-common into its own separate package
[00:31] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: ^^
[00:32] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, I agree. But, for consistency, euca-get-credentials should be in this new package, should it not?
[00:32] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: I believe it should
[00:33] <hggdh> and we should add a depends on eucalyptus so that it would be autoinstalled on the CLC
[00:33] <RoAkSoAx> eucalyptus-admin-tools probably
[00:33] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: yeah
[00:34] <hggdh> probably on eucalyptus-cloud (I guess)
[00:34] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: i guess we should add the depend in eucalyptus-cloud
[00:34] <benlake> situation: 6.06 md raid1 + lvm + lilo, worked great for 2 years sans kernel updates... finally decided to update kernel, reboot, hosed. Cannot boot, not even the backup kernel which is awesome. Two things that concerned me when doing updates was for lvm2 and udev. I probably should of known better with lvm2 since its metadata is not backwards compatible and apparently lilo freaked. udev, well, that also caused lilo to freak do to dev
[00:34] <benlake> mapping changing on it, it threw warnings, but internet said it was ok to ignore. Long story short, I have a perfectly valid md array and lvm(2?) setup that I can reliably access in rescue mode, but I cannot, for the last 10 hours, get lilo to run so I can install an new/old/different kernel image.
[00:35] <hggdh> yeah
[00:35] <benlake> if anyone would be so kind, I would gladly buy something off their wishlist as this is killing me.
[00:35] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: lest see what daviey says about this
[00:36] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, yup. I am not sure this is the right moment...
[00:37] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, meanwhile... bug 731702
[00:37] <hggdh> :-)
[00:38] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: hehe alrighty will take a look at it tomorrow
[00:38] <hggdh> and this is it for today. Gonna watch some Family Guy now :-)
[00:40] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: same here :P
[00:40]  * benlake sobs a bit
[00:44] <rnigam> any comments on setting up bridge network for kvm guests anyone?
[00:44] <rnigam> ubuntu-server is the host and the guest
[00:46] <pmatulis> rnigam: did you try the ubuntu kvm docs?
[00:59] <rnigam> pmatuils: Going through them but I must confess don't have an indepth networking knowledge.
[01:01] <rnigam> So my network admin has given me a set of ips that I can use for vm's i am creating
[01:01] <rnigam> Do I still need a bridge?
[01:02] <rnigam> according to the ubuntu kvm docs
[01:04] <rnigam> eth0 must be set manual and br0 must have static address with bridge_ports=eth0 set! so does this mean all my vms traffic will pass through the br0 interface?
[01:07] <w1k3d> I would like to use the EBS version of Ubuntu 10.10 for Amazon EC2. Does that VM have the entire OS stored on EBS (i.e., will stuff I install be persistent)?
[01:11] <pmatulis> rnigam: you want a bridge if you need to be able to contact the guests from an external host (ex: ssh into the guest)
[01:13] <pmatulis> w1k3d: no, the OS will not reside on the EBS volume.  to do that, you need to do some special trickery
[01:13] <w1k3d> pmatulis: How can I put everything on EBS?
[01:15] <w1k3d> or, be able to save the modified image
[01:15] <erichammond> w1k3d: Yes, The OS will reside on the root EBS volume if you are running an EBS boot instance.  Your entire file system will persist except for (by default) things under /mnt which is the ephemeral storage.
[01:15] <w1k3d> oh, i see
[01:16] <erichammond> "will persist" = through stop/start cycles, but not (by default) if you "terminate" the instance.
[01:16] <w1k3d> i wasn't sure if "EBS" instance meant that there was just an EBS volume mounted or if it meant everyting was on EBS.
[01:16] <w1k3d> what's the difference?
[01:17] <ddbt86> good day, is there someone willing to help me setup a VPS for Ruby on Rails?
[01:17] <ddbt86> or at least answer some questions about the process..
[01:17] <erichammond> w1k3d: I don't understand the question.  When you run an EBS boot instance the root file system is on an EBS volume.
[01:18] <pmatulis> w1k3d: sorry, i thought you were using UEC
[01:18] <w1k3d> ok, that's what i wanted
[01:18] <w1k3d> but why will terminating cause me to lose my data?
[01:20] <erichammond> w1k3d: If you "terminate" the instance, then EC2 deletes your EBS volume (by default).  If you "stop" the instance, the volume is still there and you can "start" the instance again.
[01:20] <w1k3d> ah, i see. That's quite tricky naming.
[01:20] <w1k3d> thanks
[01:21] <erichammond> w1k3d: It is possible to keep your EBS volume around if you modify some instance attributes before terminating, but it's rare you want that.
[01:22] <erichammond> w1k3d: I wrote some related info here: http://alestic.com/2010/01/ec2-instance-locking
[01:23] <Patrickdk> isn't the normal way to back it up to s3 if you wanted to keep it?
[01:42] <KurtKraut> pmatulis, w1k3d, a t1.micro is fully hosted and bootable in a EBS image.
[01:43] <erichammond> Patrickdk: It is possible to create EBS snapshots of any EBS volume (including the root EBS volume on an EBS boot instance).  EBS snapshots are stored in S3 (eleven 9's of reliability).
[01:50] <patdk-lap> I totally dont get google
[01:50] <patdk-lap> something keeps accessing my webserver, from a google owned ip block
[01:50] <patdk-lap> but it's not googlebot or something
[01:50] <patdk-lap> it has no ptr for the ip, and that is odd for google
[01:50] <patdk-lap> but it does several hundred http connections per second
[01:51] <patdk-lap> today from ip's <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:17] <KurtKraut> patdk-lap, nmap on those IPs outputs something useful?
[02:19] <benlake> so while booting, lvm dies complaining about a pv it can't find and the system drops into busybox
[02:21] <benlake> 6.06, the only lvm command I have is vgchange, which I do a vgchange -ay --partial and get root/boot/swap active, but I have no other lvm programs to remove the disk (that isn't really in use) and I'm not sure how to continue booting. Any ideas?
[02:25] <patdk-lap> All filtered.
[02:34] <lifeless> benlake: hmm, I'm not sure
[02:34] <lifeless> benlake: the lvm master command should be present
[02:35] <benlake> lifeless: sadly, it is not
[02:46] <EvilPhoenix> anyone know why postfix can't send email, and generates this error when trying to send via CLI?  postdrop: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory
[02:48] <patdk-lap> you really messed with the config file pretty good
[02:48] <patdk-lap> and messed up master.cf
[03:00]  * EvilPhoenix grumbles
[03:00] <EvilPhoenix> the original sendmail package that was packaged with ubuntu didnt work either
[03:01] <ScottK> The postfix package as shipped has no such problems, so the configuration or something else has been changed.
[03:02] <EvilPhoenix> i've run dpkg-reconfigure on it 8 times
[03:02] <EvilPhoenix> still seems to be f'd
[03:03] <EvilPhoenix> the issue occurred with the out-of-the-box sendmail package which postfix replaced
[03:03] <EvilPhoenix> any idea how i can fix this?
[03:03] <ScottK> Purge it (sudo apt-get purge postfix), make sure any residual files in /etc/postfix are removed, then reinstall postfix.
[03:03] <ScottK> You can't install postfix and sendmail packages at the same time.
[03:04] <EvilPhoenix> i know that
[03:04] <EvilPhoenix> this issue was already existent prior to apt-get purge sendmail; apt-get install postfix
[03:37] <roasted_> I changed my DHCP range on my Ubuntu server, but when I PXE boot systems to it, it grabs the old range. What do I have to change for PXE to use the new range?
[03:40] <twb> EvilPhoenix: that sounds like one of postfix's spool directories is buggered (e.g. doesn't exist, or bad ownership/permissions)
[03:40] <twb> EvilPhoenix: #postfix would probably have a better idea
[03:48] <EvilPhoenix> twb:  strange thing is it happens on a Debian Squeeze box too, which makes me thing its a more global issue, like f'd disk images or something
[03:50] <EvilPhoenix> twb:  i'll take a look there later, thanks
[03:51] <roasted_> nobody familiar with pxe boot?
[03:55] <twb> roasted_: the ubuntu server is the DHCP and TFTP server?
[03:56] <roasted_> twb, yes
[03:56] <roasted_> Im using LTSP. The clients PXE boot to it and pulls down the Ubuntu image accordingly.
[03:57] <roasted_> I'm setting up a test environment here at home, but I use 1.X here at home so I wanted to change the third octet of 0's to 1's so I could get through the gateway etc.
[03:57] <roasted_> But now that I did that, when I PXE boot, it's still looking for 0.X
[03:57] <roasted_> So I got to wonder if I needed to edit a PXE file to for 1.X usage since I changed the range.
[03:59] <twb> I don't know what you mean by "0.x" and "1.x"
[04:00] <roasted_> 192.168.0.X vs 192.168.1.X
[04:01] <twb> You shouldn't use either of those, because EVERYONE uses them
[04:02] <roasted_> that's the point
[04:02] <roasted_> Im setting up a test environment here. at home.
[04:02] <roasted_> I use 192.168.1.X, so I WANT to use that to mesh up with the network.
[04:02] <roasted_> But with 0.X I'm unable to get through the gateway. I cant install updates, etc.
[04:03] <roasted_> So I swapped my DHCP range and IP on the server to be 192.168.1.X but the PXE boot still pulls 192.168.0.X addresses
[04:03] <twb> Er, DHCP and PXE do not work across gateways
[04:03] <roasted_> well when I have a static IP of <IP_ADDRESS> (it assigned this by default with LTSP) I cant get external access
[04:03] <roasted_> and I want external access...
[04:03] <twb> But if you're getting a DHCPACK in 192.168.0/24 from the DHCP server, it's because you haven't reconfigured it properly
[04:05] <twb> roasted_: you cannot simply statically assign an address at random and have return packets routed back to you
[04:05] <roasted_> I think Im missing a file
[04:05] <roasted_> because I need a gateway, right
[04:05] <twb> No
[04:05] <twb> You need to reconfigure the router to handle 192.168.0/24 as well as 192.168.1/24
[04:06] <twb> If you add a gateway, you packets will get out, but the response packets will never get to you because your router won't know you exist
[04:07] <roasted_> I'd rather just switch to 1.X since I may have to do it at work anyway when I most the setup there
[04:07] <roasted_> so I'd like to learn how to swap the entire range
[04:07] <twb> I'm not stopping you
[04:09] <roasted_> how would I do it in ubuntu alone, taking pxe out of it
[04:09] <roasted_> change the DHCP range that is
[04:09] <twb> That depends what DHCP server you're using
[04:09] <roasted_> Im using ubuntu for the dhcp server.
[04:09] <twb> Ubuntu ships several.
[04:10] <roasted_> dhcp3
[04:10] <twb> Dunno
[04:10] <roasted_> how do I find out what Im using
[04:10] <twb> netstat -nlp, look at what is LISTEN on the UDP bootps port
[04:10] <twb> Which is port 67
[04:16] <kieppie> hi guys. I'm looking for details on kernel versions: server, generic, virtual, preempt. where an I find details & differences re each?
[04:17] <roasted_> so does anybody know how to change the dhcp scope in ubuntu?
[04:19] <Datz> kieppie: there's stuff out there. I really haven't found too much. but there's this dated piece: http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/3716396/Ubuntu-Server-Kernel-Comparisons-and-Implementation-Issues.htm
[04:20] <kieppie> thanks Datz
[04:20] <Datz> np
[04:20] <Datz> oh I guess that isn't from the start of the article
[04:35] <Datz> kieppie1: I guess you could follow the method they do in the article to figure out the difference. If you do, you might write an article for the rest of us. :P
[04:36] <kieppie1> thnx
[04:38] <kieppie1> Datz: I just find it hard to believe such a basic, fundamental & critical function is totally undocumented
[04:39] <Datz> kieppie1: yea, maybe I just haven't found more on it. It's been awhile since I looked
[04:42] <twb> kieppie1: simply install them and diff the /boot/config-* files
[04:43] <Datz> yea, that's what they did in the article.. I may have to do this..
[04:43] <twb> kieppie1: compared to generic, server has PAE enabled, and virtual has a number of drivers and things disabled (because they don't exist on virtual systems)
[04:45] <kieppie1> orly? reinventing the wheel much rather than rtfm? i.e. does the virtual refer to the kernel suited for virt hosts or clients (diff totally undocumented)? I know server is for server & generic suitable for desktops.
[04:46] <kieppie1> I'd like to rtfm, if only fm's on subject were available
[04:47] <twb> kieppie1: why would a diff need to be documented?
[04:47] <twb> kieppie1: it's an automated process
[04:48] <Datz> doesn't need to be, but it would be nice :)
[04:48] <kieppie1> because it's an option available @ install, & I've encountered similar choices in the past. I've usually gone with server or generic, but I'd like to have a better idea of the choices I'm making
[04:56] <kieppie1> this goes some way towards addressing the question: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_lucid_kernels&num=1
[04:56] <kieppie1> not the simple answer for the simple question posed, but will have to do...
[08:40] <phoenixsampras> how to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 ?
[08:41] <twb> !upgrade
[10:20] <airtonix> phoenixsampras: i like to sacrifice virgin chickens and fry amputated frog legs then hope for the best after clicking upgrade
[10:27] <memoryleak> I get Error # 500 instead of 404 when i try to access a non-exisiting file - what could cause the problem? it's the default installation of 10.04 LTS withouth modification in config
[10:27] <memoryleak> forget to write that i'm using apache2
[10:29] <joschi> memoryleak: could be some rewrite rule or an invalid/non-functioning ErrorDocument
[10:29] <joschi> memoryleak: check your error log
[10:31] <memoryleak> i switched to LogLevel Debug and i get "redirected from r->uri = /index.php"
[10:31] <memoryleak> but there is no .htaccess file
[10:31] <joschi> memoryleak: the apache httpd configuration doesn't only consist of .htaccess files
[10:32] <memoryleak> there is no redirect in <VirtualHost> either
[10:33] <joschi> memoryleak: ErrorDocument, RewriteRule etc.
[10:33] <memoryleak> did grep -ir index.php /etc/apache2/ and got something in dir.conf
[10:34] <memoryleak>  /etc/apache2/mods-available/dir.conf:          DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml index.htm - and that's it
[10:35] <memoryleak> i have this issue on all sites
[10:36] <memoryleak> ok solved the problem  - there was an .htaccess in the parent folder of the document_root, thanks for your help joschi
[11:02] <kim0> hallyn: is it a lot of work to rebuild your ppa pkgs after syncing with spice-0.8 and the updated kvm
[11:04] <joeskil> hello. Anyone here who has any help to offer or any tips for retrieving data from a hacked server?
[11:05] <TheInfinity> joeskil: ask your provider to backup everything. then reinstall the complete server.
[11:06] <joeskil> hehe. I am the provider. it is my testing-server. but on it, I had a little phpBB forum, and I don't know how to get to my SQL data
[11:08] <TheInfinity> joeskil: give yourself admin rights to mysql and dump the complete db?
[11:10] <joeskil> TheInfinity: yes, off course... But there will be no harm done if I hook up the server again? I mean. can I prevent the hack attacks from happening while working on  the server?
[11:11] <joeskil> TheInfinity: And thanks. I really didn't think of the DB dumping....
[11:12] <TheInfinity> joeskil: you really should rethink about your server security, yes. and i would have a look at the dump if theres strange data in it.
[11:13] <joeskil> TheInfinity: Thanks. It should be quite easy to get the data, as there are only 3 users on the phpBB
[11:14] <joeskil> TheInfinity: I have, after the attack, installed a Smoothwall firewall on my network. and, also tightened the security in accordance to how-to's on the net
[11:15] <TheInfinity> joeskil: yea, things like always updated software (also phpbb software) + no ssh password login + fail2ban + ... are essential.
[11:17] <joeskil> TheInfinity: Thanks. I am learning... so sad I lost the setup just now before I made any backup. Well. lesson learned
[11:18] <kirkland> hallyn: no FFe needed, as you had the release candidate in the archive before FF;  here we're just bumping from an RC to the GA, which is generally desirable, no new features added
[11:18] <kirkland> hallyn: i just built/tested, i'm uploading now
[11:21] <kim0> kirkland: are you talking about spice ?
[11:22] <kirkland> kim0: um, no, i don't think so
[11:22] <kim0> ok
[11:22] <kirkland> kim0: just hallyn's qemu-kvm-0.14 upload
[11:22] <kim0> well that's the one that was built with spice suport
[11:47]  * Daviey ^5's kirkland for 0.14.0+noroms-0ubuntu2.
[11:47]  * kirkland ^5s Daviey because he is awersome
[11:48]  * kirkland adds an "r" to awesome so that he speaks in Queen's English
[11:48] <Daviey> heh
[11:48]  * jpds wonders if the Queen has said 'awesome' in the past.
[11:58] <joeskil> TheInfinity: Have you got another minute? I booted up my old server, and hooked it to the network behind smoothwall so that it can only send and receive on LAN, no data beyond the firewall.
[11:59] <joeskil> TheInfinity: But the hackers have somehow prevented MySQL from starting, and I don't have privelieges to start my own SQL daemon
[11:59] <TheInfinity> have to go now. sorry. :)
[12:00] <joeskil> TheInfinity: Oh ok. Thanks anyway. Thanks a bunch!
[12:00] <remix_tj> joeskil: what's the problem with mysql start?
[12:02] <joeskil> remix_tj: will cut/paste in a few secs
[12:02] <remix_tj> k
[12:02] <joeskil> sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart  * Stopping MySQL database server mysqld                                 [ OK ]   * Starting MySQL database server mysqld                                 [fail]
[12:03] <remix_tj> joeskil: try this
[12:03] <Daviey> jpds, Didn't you listen to last years Queen's speech?  "This has been an awesome year" ... she said it.
[12:04] <Daviey> joeskil, You have admin access on the server?
[12:04] <remix_tj> joeskil:  sudo mysqld --verbose
[12:04] <joeskil> yes. as far as I know. it is my server
[12:04] <joeskil> :D
[12:05] <Daviey> joeskil, I was responding to, "I don't have privelieges to start my own SQL daemon"
[12:06] <remix_tj> joeskil:
[12:06] <joeskil> Daviey: yes. that was badly put. I have root access, but with root, I can't start my MySQL. in /var/log/messages it suggests that I am denied:
[12:07] <joeskil> Daviey: Mar  9 13:00:10 punkbuster kernel: [ 1596.372384] type=1503 audit(1299672010.149:115): operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="r::" denied_mask="r::" fsuid=0 name="/sys/devices/system/cpu/" pid=5755 profile="/usr/sbin/mysqld"
[12:08] <joeskil> remix_tj: joe@punkbuster:~$ sudo mysqld --verbouse 110309 13:05:35  InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 9656380 110309 13:05:35 [ERROR] mysqld: unknown option '--verbouse' 110309 13:05:35 [ERROR] Aborting  110309 13:05:35  InnoDB: Starting shutdown... 110309 13:05:36  InnoDB: Shutdown completed; log sequence number 0 9656380 110309 13:05:36 [Warning] Forcing shutdown of 1 plugins 110309 13:05:36 [Note] mysqld: Shutdown comp
[12:08] <remix_tj> joeskil:
[12:08] <remix_tj> sudo mysqld_safe --verbose
[12:09] <joeskil> remix_tj: joe@punkbuster:~$ sudo mysqld_safe --verbose 110309 13:06:47 mysqld_safe Logging to '/var/lib/mysql/punkbuster.err'. 110309 13:06:47 mysqld_safe Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql 110309 13:06:49 mysqld_safe mysqld from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid ended joe@punkbuster:~$
[12:09] <remix_tj> joeskil: tail /var/log/punkbuster.err
[12:09] <remix_tj> sorry
[12:09] <remix_tj> joeskil: tail /var/log/mysql/punkbuster.err
[12:10] <joeskil> remix_tj: no such file
[12:11] <remix_tj> but wait
[12:11] <remix_tj> joeskil: /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld
[12:12] <remix_tj> joeskil: copy the content of that file to http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:12] <joeskil> remix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577807/
[12:13] <remix_tj> joeskil: is not a command, is a file...
[12:14] <remix_tj> copy the content of that file
[12:15] <joeskil> remix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577809/
[12:16] <remix_tj> joeskil: add this row before the last }
[12:16] <remix_tj> /sys/devices/system/cpu/ r,
[12:17] <remix_tj> then launch sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor restart
[12:19] <joeskil> remix_tj: done
[12:23] <joeskil> remix_tj: any other tips?
[12:24] <joeskil> remix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577813/
[12:26] <remix_tj> joeskil: did you add?
[12:26] <remix_tj> oh yes
[12:26] <joeskil> remix_tj: yes
[12:27] <remix_tj> joeskil: now restart apparmor sudo /etc/init.d/apparmor restart then start mysql
[12:28] <remix_tj> now is starting my lunchtime
[12:28] <remix_tj> i'll be back in 2 hours
[12:29] <joeskil> remix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577814/
[12:30] <joeskil> oh shoot...
[12:34] <hallyn> kim0: no, what kirkland uploaded was not with spice support
[12:34]  * kim0 nods
[12:35] <hallyn> kirkland: awesome,thanks :)
[12:35] <kirkland> hallyn: np
[12:36] <kim0> hallyn: not sure if you've read the messages I left yesterday. Basically win7 works fine with spice with/without qxl driver (Great!). What doesn't work is sound and the embedded virt-viewer widget in virt-manager
[12:36] <hallyn> now to try uploading my vmbuilder bugfix as my daily test whether I have upload rights :)
[12:36] <kim0> hehe
[12:36] <hallyn> kim0: virt-viewer widget I don't know what to do about offhand.  We can look at libvirt and vmtools and virt-viewer and see if we need spice-enabled versions
[12:37] <hallyn> kim0: so do you think we should stick with the versions in ppa for now?
[12:37] <hallyn> all the better of so, one thing less on my todo list
[12:37] <kim0> hallyn: in a ppa is fine for me
[12:37] <hallyn> you mean what is now in ppa is fine?
[12:37] <kim0> but we can sync to latest stable 0.8 release ?
[12:37] <hallyn> that's what i was asking
[12:37] <hallyn> ok, i'll do that
[12:37] <kim0> awesome
[12:38] <kim0> hallyn: ping me once ppa rebuilds .. I'll retest
[12:38] <hallyn> ok
[13:12] <awanti> hi today when i am trying to login, its taking more time (4 o 5 min).
[13:14] <awanti>  so how do i solve that.. plz. help
[13:30] <bencer> does anybody know where and the deadline to submit talks for the next uds?
[13:34] <hallyn> bencer: there aren't real 'talks' at uds, but I don't think calls for blueprints for sessions have gone out yet
[13:34] <bencer> yes, blueprints... :) don't get used to that name
[13:34] <ogra_> there are the plenary talks
[13:35] <bencer> hallyn: do you know when approximately will be open? probably keeping an eye on planet ubuntu will be enough, isn't it?
[13:36] <hallyn> bencer: I should think so.  no i don't know when, but UDS being in May I would expect another month before the call goes out
[13:37] <hallyn> ogra_: true.  those can generally get scheduled pretty much on the spot though right? :)
[13:37] <HackeMate> hi
[13:38] <HackeMate> i have configured a webdav server that accept SSL connections, now it works with windows client but i can't execute anything
[13:38] <ogra_> hallyn, i think if there are open spots, yeah
[13:38] <HackeMate> i gave 777 permissions but in windows cant be executed directly
[13:38] <HackeMate> i can download them though
[13:38] <HackeMate> any advice is welcomed
[13:39] <bencer> ok thanks hallyn ogra_
[13:43] <HackeMate> i guess that's a coincidence
[13:50] <hallyn> HackeMate: (sorry, no ignoring you, I just don't know much about webdav - SpamapS may be able to help you in a bit)
[13:51] <HackeMate> thanks --  Im patient
[14:07] <RoAkSoAx> morning all
[14:07] <hggdh> smoser, good morning, do we have a proposed ec2 kernel for karmic?
[14:21] <remix_tj> joeskil: are you there?
[14:21] <remix_tj> *here
[14:24] <joeskil> remix_tj: now I am here! :) Are you?
[14:28] <remix_tj> yes
[14:29] <remix_tj> joeskil: what about /var/log/syslog ?
[14:29] <remix_tj> joeskil: try starting mysql and then if fails do tail -n 200 /var/log/mail.log
[14:29] <remix_tj> azz
[14:29] <remix_tj> tail -n 200 /var/log/syslog
[14:29] <remix_tj> (wrong file)
[14:29] <remix_tj> an paste
[14:30] <joeskil> remix_tj: wait. i have to switch locations and computer.
[14:30] <remix_tj> ok
[14:31] <remix_tj> i'll wait
[14:39] <joeskil> remix_tj: back
[14:42] <joeskil> remix_tj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/577859/
[14:51] <remix_tj> joeskil: tail -n 200 /var/log/messages ?
[14:51] <jdstrand> hallyn: hi! you have upload rights for libvirt now, correct? (ie, I don't need to sponsor your people.canonical.com/~serge/libvirt_0.8.8-1ubuntu2.debdiff anymore)
[14:56] <joeskil1> remix_tj: I lost connection for a while. I posted the output.
[14:57] <rnigam> How can I completely remove a KVM guest image from a ubuntu server. I did virsh destroy vm1 but the image is still present with 'shutoff' flag (virsh list --all)
[14:59] <compdoc> the image is a file, most of the time
[14:59] <compdoc> sometimes its a /dev/x
[15:00] <lool> Oy
[15:01] <lool> When booting latest maverick EBS image, I miss the nls_cp437.ko and friends
[15:01] <lool> find /lib/modules/|grep nls > not much
[15:01] <lool> But the ubuntu-maverick.git kernel config seems to have them
[15:01] <lool> are these getting stripped out somehow?
[15:03] <lool> this is on i386 BTW
[15:04] <joeskil1> remix_tj: did you hit escape? :)
[15:07] <hallyn> jdstrand: no, my rights are not yet in effect
[15:11] <Daviey> lool, Hmm... I think you need to talk to the kernel team, but keep smoser in the loop.
[15:11] <Daviey> lool, I don't think smoser modifies the kernel from what they build for him.
[15:12] <blackxored> hello guys
[15:12] <thafreak> Morning server peeps
[15:12] <lool> Daviey: I moved to #ubuntu-kernel already, thanks for confirming though, appreciated
[15:12] <thafreak> quick survey...anyone using anything for automation/config management? i.e. something like puppet?
[15:12] <Daviey> lool, i should have looked :)
[15:12] <blackxored> I've had an asterisk setup in the past, didn't lasted because of management, now the buzz about web conference has found its place again, and I want to setup something for web conference. What do you recommend? Fast is the dominating point here.
[15:13] <thesheff17> thafreak: allot of people are using puppet now.
[15:13] <blackxored> any web meeting software or "go for asterisk anyways" will do it
[15:14] <thafreak> thanks thesheff17
[15:14] <blackxored> thesheff17: there's also chef, which it's a personal preference because it's configuration is a ruby DSL ;)
[15:14] <thafreak> yeah, I shy away from ruby syntax :) my brain just doesn't grok it yet...
[15:15] <blackxored> thafreak: ok, then puppet yourself ;)
[15:15] <thesheff17> yea I'm also a python guy so I haven't used chef or puppet
[15:15] <thesheff17> puppet has its own syntax but is also ruby
[15:15] <thafreak> I remember seeing something about ubuntu server and cobbler...wasn't sure if something other than puppet was more "official" for ubuntu
[15:16] <thafreak> anyone know if there's articles on the official server wiki's for this area?
[15:16] <thafreak> like there is for postfix and ldap
[15:18] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: bug #731922 fixed :) Should build now though
[15:18] <RoAkSoAx> thafreak: http://zulcss.wordpress.com/2011/01/19/using-cobbler-on-ubuntu/
[15:19] <thafreak> is cobbler comparable to puppet, or does it try to solve a different set of problems
[15:20] <thafreak> i.e. is it apples to apples, or apples to oranges
[15:20] <RoAkSoAx> thafreak: puppet afaik is used for remote configuration management, while cobbler is a provision service (remote installation)
[15:21] <thafreak> ok...I thought they were slightly different...cobbler works with kickstart right?
[15:21] <RoAkSoAx> thafreak: yes
[15:22] <thafreak> so you'd probably use both cobler and puppet together then....cobler to get the initial install, then puppet to configure the server for specific tasks?
[15:23] <thafreak> Also, I found on the main wiki, it really only talks about puppet
[15:23] <RoAkSoAx> thafreak: correct cobbler + puppet
[15:23] <thafreak> so, I'm guessing that's got the most support...or atleast the most motivated wiki authors
[15:23] <RoAkSoAx> thafreak: wikipage link?
[15:26] <thafreak> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/remote-administration.html
[15:27] <RoAkSoAx> thafreak: yes that's correct. cobbler has been included in the current development release of Ubuntu (Natty) that is due in a month
[15:28] <thafreak> Cool...
[15:28] <thafreak> speaking of natty, anything amazingly new on the virtualization front?
[15:30] <lool> Daviey: Is there another kernel I can swap in?
[15:30] <lool> Daviey: maybe -server, or -generic?
[15:30] <lool> Daviey: Will this "just work" with latest EBS images?
[15:30] <RoAkSoAx> thafreak: hallyn  is your guy for those sorts of questions
[15:30] <thafreak> I'm setting up a new vm host...debating on going bleeding edge or staying back with lucid
[15:30] <blackxored> so anyone?
[15:30]  * lool tries linux-image-server
[15:30] <blackxored> thafreak: lucid for vm hosts, even debian or centos ;)
[15:30] <thafreak> cool...thanks RoAkSoAx
[15:31] <blackxored> anyways
[15:31] <blackxored> noone has a clue about my web conference question?
[15:31] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: howdy!! What do you think about separating the euca_admin tools into a different package?
[15:31] <thafreak> yeah...I'm using lucid at work for our vmhosts and I like it, but at home...I'm feeling a little dangerous
[15:31] <blackxored> thafreak: then go for xen in natty ;) I bet you wouldn't want to be dangerous in the rest of your life ;0
[15:32] <thafreak> blackxored: what do you mean by web conference excatly...like phone conference room via a web browser?
[15:33] <thafreak> I already use xen on lenny/squeeze at other places...I really like that as well...I was looking for more like the new SPICE stuff...something new
[15:33] <blackxored> thafreak: for a little background, I told before I had an asterisk setup and softphones, and management broke the thing up, now they want something on a conference nature setup fast, so I was wondering which path to follow
[15:33] <thafreak> like conference calls via voip phones/conference room phones?
[15:34] <blackxored> thafreak: I'm building a lucid image for xen4 using xen-tools, but no clue on what to put on it yet
[15:34] <thafreak> I think asterisk is still technically king...and there are packages for ubuntu in the repos, but I've been meaning to try out freeswitch for a long time
[15:34] <blackxored> thafreak: assume so, the priorities are only "fast setup, multi-user conference support"
[15:34] <phoenixsampras> Help !! how to install ubuntu server on XEN CITRIX?
[15:35] <lool> Hmm the vm doesn't come up anymore   :-(
[15:35] <blackxored> thafreak: had a bad time with asterisk from the repos, can't recall if it was ubuntu or debian, but defintely had nightmares about it
[15:35] <thafreak> well, I remember that freeswitch is technically superior...it was designed by former asterisk devs
[15:35] <thafreak> and it comes with conference room by default in the sample config...and it can do HD audio conference calls
[15:35] <blackxored> remember the priorities? what do you think? fast setup, multi-user conference
[15:36] <thafreak> Well, fast setup will depend on you really...for me, I'd probably end up going with asterisk, cause I know the syntax of the configs much better
[15:36] <thafreak> freeswitch may take me some time to figure out
[15:37] <blackxored> it's also my case
[15:37] <thafreak> I don't think I ever setup a conference room on asterisk though....I'm pretty sure it's there and possible, but I don't remember...been a while
[15:38] <thafreak> That and asterisk changes their config syntax every version or so...and I think they're up to 1.8 now
[15:38] <compdoc> asterisk wouldnt be the best way
[15:38] <compdoc> it makes a great phone system
[15:39] <thafreak> compdoc: you seem to be a former asterisk admin too :) what do you use these days?
[15:39] <compdoc> I use asterisk in a virtual machine for my own office/home
[15:41] <compdoc> I would think there would be something better for conferences - some sort of online social media kind of thing
[15:42] <thafreak> ah, I too have asterisk in a vm for the home office...
[15:42] <thafreak> i've had "figure out freeswitch" on my todo list for a few years now...I've just never had the time
[15:43] <thafreak> and things with xml configurations usually put me off (part of the reason I hate tomcat)
[15:43] <remix_tj> joeskil1:
[15:44] <remix_tj> what about the paste?
[15:50] <Daviey> lool, sorry, was AFK..  I don't think the tradional kernels are as xen friendly
[15:50] <Daviey> lool, you really need to talk to smoser or smb i think
[15:50] <rnigam> Hello everyone, I just did virsh undefine vm1 for a kvm guest vm1. How do I remove any images that might have been left behind? or does undefine command takes care of the image as well? Using Ubuntu MAverick - Server edition
[15:50] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, well.... that was what i intiially suggested... but now thinking about it, is there any benefit?
[15:50] <lool> Daviey: Am I supposed to hang in -virt for this?
[15:50] <lool> Daviey: Or is this the right channel?
[15:51] <Daviey> lool, I think it's a lucky dip between -server or -cloud... we don't even know when to switch :)
[15:52] <Daviey> lool, smoser is away today.. smb might be the best person... i'll follow in -kernel :)
[15:53] <lool> thanks!
[15:56] <blackxored> BTW is asterisk from the repos working???
[16:00] <DigitalFlux> Hi Guys
[16:00] <Disconnect> anyone know the debconf magic to cause it to write a new partition table to a blank disk during installation? I've already got http://pastebin.com/LuZ5J09c set but it still prompts. (it doesn't prompt to overwrite the existing, so a rebuild works, but on the initial blank disk I get the "write changes to disks?" prompt)
[16:00] <DigitalFlux> A quick question about ubuntu-vm-builder
[16:00] <ivoks> hm... vlan package should be installed by default
[16:00] <DigitalFlux> as far as i understand, when i use it to create a new kvm guest, it just downloads the distro image .. like say a lucid JeOS iso
[16:01] <DigitalFlux> does it do that everytime i create a new guest ? or this iso is stored somewhere ?
[16:01] <Disconnect> DigitalFlux: you don't understand very far :) it installs the individual packages from the repo each time. you probably want a local repo, or at least a caching proxy.
[16:02] <DigitalFlux> Disconnect: It creates the whole filesystem from packages ?
[16:02]  * Disconnect is migrating from the increasingly-broken ubuntu-vm-builder to foreman w/ netboot installs. (Try uvb on an lvm some time, it'll create all -sorts- of fun.)
[16:02] <DigitalFlux> Disconnect: no "images" included ?
[16:02] <patdk-wk> that is what the *installer* does :)
[16:02] <patdk-wk> the cd is nothing more than a collection of packages
[16:02] <Disconnect> yah, what he said. thats the 'builder' part of "ubuntu-vm-builder"
[16:03]  * DigitalFlux should look carefully at the name of software releases from now on .. :)
[16:03] <Disconnect> lol
[16:04] <DigitalFlux> Disconnect: foreman/puppet is super cool i know, i'm just experimenting with some of the kvm features ..
[16:04] <Disconnect> this isn't windows, you don't have to do a full hardware-specific install and then try to scrape the serial numbers off to make it 'generic' :)
[16:04] <DigitalFlux> Disconnect: so i wanted just a quick kvm installation ..
[16:04]  * patdk-wk does netboot installs also, they are the best :)
[16:04] <DigitalFlux> OK OK guys, don't push me more to start a foreman installation :)
[16:05] <patdk-wk> I don't use foreman
[16:05] <Disconnect> yah it is pretty nice, it talks to libvirt to set up storage, talks to isc dhcpd/bind (UGH) to do netbooting and dns, then off it goes. fighting some issues but right now my problem is the automated part doesn't automate very well. (it won't write a new blank partition table w/o prompting)
[16:05] <patdk-wk> just pxe boot to the installer, and apt-cacher-ng :)
[16:05] <DigitalFlux> Did the foreman supported Ubuntu in the first place ?
[16:05] <DigitalFlux> or this is a new addition ?
[16:05] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: yes... the euca_admin tools can be run from any hosts with the keys configured and I don;t think admins would like to install eucalyptus-common for just the tools
[16:05] <Disconnect> always has afaik. its just another os, foreman is all ruby and doesn't particularly care. (iirc they have support for ms dhcp/dns servers in the smart-proxy as well)
[16:06] <DigitalFlux> Disconnect: Oh, and where does cobbler fit in this scenario ? :)
[16:06] <DigitalFlux> Disconnect: for the partitioning/automated installation, it uses kickstart or preseed ?
[16:06] <Disconnect> no idea, last time i experimented with cobbler it was (ugh) centos about 5 years ago. it was .. damaged. (but then again, pretty much everything was at the time. it just had a sort of violent-tendencies damage that we eventually gave up on)
[16:06] <DigitalFlux> Disconnect: I think i faced this problem with kickstart before
[16:07] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, Well that is true
[16:07] <DigitalFlux> Disconnect: cobbler seems to have made it to natty
[16:07] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, I have no preference either way, if you want to do it - crack on.
[16:07] <Disconnect> good for them?
[16:07] <DigitalFlux> Disconnect: that kickstart problem is an unresolved bug till now AFAIK
[16:07] <Disconnect> i'm preseeding.
[16:07] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, Might want to raise a bug, that it's bloating your system, just for wanting to use the python module etc
[16:07] <Disconnect> http://pastebin.com/LuZ5J09c
[16:08] <DigitalFlux> Disconnect: hmm, let me get you my totally no-human-intervention preseed config
[16:09] <Disconnect> does it work on zero'd disks? this one will work fine if i do a rebuild (existing partition table gets overwritten)
[16:09] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: Given that the euca-* tools and the euca_admin module are now shipped in eucalyptus-common, we should just probably create a package called eucalyptus-admin-tools that include nboth the binaries and the pyton module, to not introduce 2 new pacakges, and just keep them in one
[16:11] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, I agree with that.
[16:11] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: ok then I'm happy to do it :)
[16:12] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, super!
[16:19] <ahayes> Hello. Anyone have some time/knowledge to help with a multipath (MPIO) boot issue?
[16:21] <pmatulis> !ask | ahayes
[16:21] <ivoks> ahayes: what's the problem?
[16:21] <ahayes> I've been able to get Ubuntu server installed on a single default LVM partition schemed disk, and then install the multipath-tools and multi-path-tools-boot packages. But booting is now intermittent. I get dropped into the initramfs shell.
[16:22] <ivoks> it tells you why it dropped into busybox
[16:22] <ahayes> My initial goal was to have the server booting off a multipathed RAID-1 setup with a pair of drives, but I haven't figued that part out yet.
[16:23] <ivoks> did you read the message it printed?
[16:23] <ivoks> when it failed to boot
[16:23] <ahayes> Yes… It tells me it can't find the boot device. It suggests that the roo= is wrong, or the rootdelay= should be specified (longer I assume)
[16:23] <ahayes> er.. root=
[16:24] <ivoks> and for root= you have what?
[16:24] <phoenixsampras> how to setup a ubuntu cloud? lets say 3 servers?
[16:25] <ahayes> root is /dev/mapper/ellie-root where ellie is the hostname
[16:25] <ivoks> ahayes: so, did you check if it exists when you get dropped into busybox?
[16:26] <hallyn> yay - open-vm-dkms is now working
[16:27] <ahayes> Sorry… It was the first time I've ever *seen* busybox. I believe it was there, and pointed to /dev/dm-21
[16:27] <Disconnect> (repeat) anyone know the debconf magic to cause it to write a new partition table to a blank disk during installation? I've already got http://pastebin.com/LuZ5J09c set but it still prompts. (it doesn't prompt to overwrite the existing, so a rebuild works, but on the initial blank disk I get the "write changes to disks?" prompt)
[16:27] <ahayes> when I eventually 'exit'ed busybox because I didn't know what to do, it then booted.
[16:28] <ahayes> So then I thought that maybe the rootdelay was worth exploring.
[16:28] <ahayes> Maybe it didn't have the device ready on its initial attempt.
[16:29] <ahayes> So I tried modifying /etc/default/grub to have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="rootdelay=90"
[16:30] <ahayes> But when I run update-grub, I get a "grub-probe: error: no such disk."
[16:31] <ahayes> So that's where I'm at now.
[16:32] <ahayes> Credit to Ubuntu team, I've never had a boot issue before, so I find myself with a steep curve. Multipath isn't helping.
[16:33] <ivoks> sorry, i have a situation here... bbl
[16:33] <ahayes> No worries.
[16:48] <lynxman> ping SpamapS
[17:05] <rnigam> Guys was anyone able to install apt-proxy on ubuntu maverick server? apt-get install is unable to locate the package.
[17:21] <ivoks> ahayes: where were we?
[17:22] <ivoks> ahayes: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="rootdelay=60 quiet splash"
[17:23] <ivoks> ahayes: update-grub
[17:23] <patdk-wk> is there a way to get a random number from dash?
[17:23] <patdk-wk> or must I use bash
[17:25] <ivoks> patdk-wk: http://www.shelldorado.com/scripts/cmds/rand.txt
[17:25] <ivoks> :D
[17:25] <patdk-wk> heh
[17:26] <ahayes> ivoks: Back… OK. I'll try again
[17:28] <patdk-wk> ivoks, before yo udid that I did, apt-get install rand
[17:29] <patdk-wk> but it's keeps outputting the same number, multible times
[17:29] <ivoks> :)
[17:29] <ivoks> prove it's not random
[17:29] <ahayes> ivoks: Still getting a grub-probe error: no such disk.
[17:30] <ivoks> ahayes: in /boot/grub/grub.cfg, there's a line 'set root='
[17:30] <patdk-wk> http://pastebin.com/65ttgfCe
[17:30] <ivoks> ahayes: is it /dev/sda?
[17:30] <patdk-wk> hehe :)
[17:30] <patdk-wk> it feel like a seed(time()) to me
[17:31] <patdk-wk> so unlikely to work where I want it, in a cron script
[17:31] <ahayes> ivoks: It's '(ellie-root)'
[17:31] <patdk-wk> ah, yep: the seed for the random numbers generator (default time(NULL))
[17:33] <ahayes>  ivoks: Well.. there are a few, others (for recovery?) are '(hd1,msdos1)'
[17:33] <ivoks> what is the multipath device name?
[17:34] <ahayes> Well… installing the multipath-tools-boot modified /etc/fstab to point to /dev/mapper/ellie-root
[17:35] <ahayes> ivoks: That is a link to /dev/dm-21
[17:35] <Skaag> what virtualization solutions are working well with ubuntu server?
[17:35] <ivoks> ahayes: try grub-install /dev/dm-21
[17:35] <Skaag> I mean as a host
[17:37] <ahayes> ivoks: /boot and / are separate on this system. Does that make a difference?
[17:38] <patdk-wk> hmm, when you boot, are you in grub 1.9 or grub 0.9?
[17:38] <patdk-wk> if your in 1.9, then that isn't the issue
[17:39] <ahayes> patdk-wk: grub-install -v reports 1.98+20100804-5ubuntu3
[17:40] <patdk-wk> ahayes, that means nothing
[17:40] <patdk-wk> cause it's installed on your system, doesn't mean that is what is installed in the boot sector
[17:40] <ahayes> patdk-wk: This install is on a totally fresh system. Ubuntu 10.10 server cd is only one to touch it.
[17:40] <patdk-wk> I'm pretty sure it is, but :)
[17:40] <Skaag> can I check the ulimit of a process externally?
[17:40] <patdk-wk> ok, so grub-install won't fix the issue
[17:40] <patdk-wk> where is /boot located?
[17:40] <ahayes> more /fstab
[17:41] <ahayes> Oops… sec..
[17:42] <ahayes> patdk-wk: /etc/fstab says UUID=big_long_string /boot
[17:42] <patdk-wk> and what does the uuid map to?
[17:42] <patdk-wk> blkid can help
[17:42] <ahayes> patdk-wk: There is a comment there that it was on /dev/sdd1 during installation
[17:42] <patdk-wk> and now?
[17:44] <mray> RoAkSoAx: https://github.com/mattray/cookbooks/tree/master/pxe_dust
[17:44] <ahayes> pstdk-wk: blkid reports: /dev/mapper/35000c500335c7407-part1: UUID="47f7610f-f274-40bb-95cc-f8cf0504ddf2" TYPE="ext2"
[17:44] <mray> automated Ubuntu server installations, all the guesswork fixed
[17:45] <ahayes> patdk-wk and the other relevant bits are: /dev/mapper/35000c500335c7407-part5: UUID="PmA0Hb-jAWI-bnL5-L6wp-JDzB-dHcy-n2NM07" TYPE="LVM2_member"
[17:45] <ahayes> /dev/mapper/ellie-root: UUID="b48c8ec7-8011-401a-b196-1d891687f64b" TYPE="ext4"
[17:45] <ahayes> /dev/mapper/ellie-swap_1: UUID="cf3c86ac-3e1d-4b62-95d1-ab57daab2441" TYPE="swap"
[17:46] <RoAkSoAx> mray: cool!! Do you have a howto by any chance?
[17:48] <mray> RoAkSoAx: I'm writing it up on my blog
[17:48] <mray> but the code is fairly straightforward
[17:48] <patdk-wk> ahayes, I'm thinking this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/grub2/+bug/687501
[17:49] <ahayes> patdk-wk: I had that issue the first time around, when I ran the installer with disk-detect/multipath/enable=true and tried to install to /dev/mapper/mpath0
[17:49] <RoAkSoAx> mray: yeah. (but I've never used chef) so the howto will help me figure out things faster :). point me out to your blog post when finished please! :)
[17:49] <patdk-wk> more down
[17:49] <ivoks> ppetraki: ^ you reported it? :)
[17:49] <patdk-wk> looks like an updated grub
[17:50]  * patdk-wk should figure out a way to test multipath sometime
[17:50] <mray> RoAkSoAx: https://github.com/mattray/cookbooks/blob/master/pxe_dust/recipes/server.rb does the work
[17:50] <patdk-wk> multipath iscsi root anyone? :)
[17:50] <mray> it installs tftpd-hpa and apache
[17:51] <mray> and modifies the installer prompt to pass in the url of the preseed and automatically kicks off
[17:52] <mray> the preseed.cfg in that repo is fairly specific, but it automatically adds an apt-cacher repo if you have one
[17:52] <ahayes> patdk-wk: You're welcome to connect into this box. :)
[17:53] <ppetraki> ivoks, I did?
[17:53] <ivoks> ppetraki: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/grub2/+bug/687501
[17:53] <ivoks> ahayes: just install the grub from ppa
[17:53] <ppetraki> oh yeah
[17:53] <RoAkSoAx> mray: ok cool. Will test this later today :)
[17:54] <ivoks> ahayes: https://launchpad.net/~cjwatson/+archive/grub
[17:54] <ahayes> ivoks: I'm just trying to figure out how to do that. :)
[17:54] <patdk-wk> add-apt-repository ppa:cjwatson/grub
[17:54] <ivoks> easy
[17:54] <patdk-wk> I believe
[17:54] <ivoks> right
[17:55] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: btw... I started looking into the get-credentials "local" error and it seems that upstream is messing a file/function cause it's simply just not there
[17:55] <ahayes> Just need to find add-apt-repository
[17:56] <ivoks> python-software-properties
[17:56] <patdk-wk> apt-get install python-software-properties
[17:57] <ahayes> Thank you. You guys are fast!
[17:57] <cjwatson> oh, yeah, I should push that grub upload to -proposed now that 10.04.2 is out
[17:58] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, that's my take also
[17:58] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, so we mark it triaged, and open an upstream task
[17:58] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: indeed! Will do right after the latest eucalyptus is uploaded so we can file a new bug with that error solely
[18:00] <ahayes> Hmm… That PPA is for Lucid I think.
[18:00] <patdk-wk> the package is for lucid
[18:00] <patdk-wk> ppa's can do all at once
[18:01] <cjwatson> yeah, but it needs a different backport to maverick
[18:01] <ahayes> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/cjwatson/grub/ubuntu/dists/maverick/main/source/Sources.gz  404  Not Found
[18:01] <patdk-wk> ya, no maverick package has been uploaded to that ppa yet
[18:01] <ivoks> ah...
[18:01] <cjwatson> I vaguely recall not being worried about keeping access to the machine for that because the maverick backport would be strictly simpler than the lucid one
[18:02] <cjwatson> I'll see what I can do ...
[18:02]  * ivoks thinks that ahayes is playing with us :)
[18:02] <ahayes> cjwatson: When you talk about pre-seeds in that bug report, would that mean I could have it grab that version during install?
[18:02] <cjwatson> ahayes: yes, that's what they're for
[18:02] <cjwatson> the point of that is so that we can actually test the package before it's promoted to -updates :)
[18:02] <patdk-wk> you could force it on your version
[18:02] <cjwatson> patdk-wk: not a good plan
[18:02] <patdk-wk> if you download the deb
[18:02] <patdk-wk> probably not :)
[18:03] <ahayes> ivoks: I'm just amazed that all the relavant people for this issue are here and talking with me. :)
[18:03] <cjwatson> I really wouldn't recommend winding grub-pc's version backwards over that particular span of time
[18:03] <ivoks> you get that with microsoft support too :)
[18:03]  * RoAkSoAx off to lunch
[18:04] <cjwatson> ahayes: I have another task I really ought to be concentrating on, but after that ...
[18:04] <ivoks> that was sarcasm
[18:04] <ahayes> Since you are here, here's what I was *trying* do do originally: Install onto a RAID-1 pair of disks on the other end of multipath.
[18:04] <patdk-wk> ivoks, I got that kind of support before, for exchange :)
[18:04] <ahayes> ivoks: I was thinking… microsoft has support?!? ;)
[18:04] <patdk-wk> not via ms though, a coworker worked with a former exchange developer :)
[18:06] <ahayes> cjwatson: No worries. Do you have a maverick multipath box to test/build on? You are welcome to connect into the one here. :)
[18:07] <cjwatson> ahayes: no, but IIRC as I say I decided I didn't need one; I'll get back to you if that turns out not to be the case
[18:07] <cjwatson> the bulk of the work for lucid was very very carefully backporting bits of device handling from maverick
[18:07] <cjwatson> and then applying a fairly small multipath fix on top of that
[18:07] <ahayes> Should I just run lucid?
[18:07] <cjwatson> nah, I'll get it fixed for maverick too
[18:08] <ahayes> Do you have any comments on installing on RAID-1 over multipath?
[18:10] <cjwatson> ahayes: not really, sorry, it's not my field
[18:10] <ahayes> If I install lucid with the preseed file, and boot the installer with disk-detect/multipath/enable=true, then create a couple RAID-1 devices out of /dev/mapper/mpath0 and 1?
[18:10] <ahayes> cjwatson: OK. No worries.
[18:11] <cjwatson> in theory that should work ...
[18:11] <cjwatson> if it doesn't, give me a shout I guess :-/
[18:11] <ahayes> cjwatson: Your preseed file would let me get through the gub install as part of the lucid install.
[18:11] <cjwatson> right
[18:12] <ahayes> cjwatson: And would I still install multipath-tools and multipath-tools-boot afterwards?
[18:12] <cjwatson> I guess so
[18:12] <ahayes> cjwatson: OK. :) I will try and let you know how I fare.
[18:13] <cjwatson> actually, if you set that up as part of the installer, they should be installed for you
[18:13] <ahayes> cjwatson: What do you mean set up as part of installer?
[18:13] <ahayes> cjwatson: The boot options?
[18:13] <ivoks> ahayes: no
[18:14] <cjwatson> no, if you're partitioning multipath devices in the installer, it should know to install multipath-tools/-boot
[18:14] <ivoks> you ca preseed the installation
[18:14] <ivoks> and if you put that ppa into the preseed, then it will pull it in and install during the installation
[18:16] <ahayes> ivoks: You mean the ppa:cjwatson/grub will pull it in?
[18:19] <ivoks> ahayes: do you know what preseeding is?
[18:19] <ivoks> ahayes: you can automate whole or just part of installation process
[18:19] <ahayes> ivoks: No. Not really. I'm readin up on it now.
[18:20] <ivoks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/grub2/+bug/687501/comments/13 is recipe for this ppa
[18:20] <ahayes> ivoks: I assumed it was a way to over-ride the default packages.
[18:20] <ivoks> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed
[18:20] <ivoks> it's much more than that
[18:22] <ahayes> ivoks: OK. I'm grabbing the 10.04.2 amd64 server iso right now.
[18:23] <ahayes> ivoks: I think I've seen the preseed bit in the installer before (expert install?)
[18:23] <ivoks> ahayes: from experience... preseeding will take some time before you master it :)
[18:23] <ahayes> ivoks: Ugh. :)
[18:24] <ivoks> once you create preseeding file
[18:24] <ivoks> you just add an option during the installation which will tell the installer where the file is (CD/floppy/HTTP...)
[18:25] <ivoks> by creating a file that has only stuff that cjwatson wrote in #13, you'll get what you want for this problem
[18:25] <ivoks> put it somewhere on the web server and append the preseed 'command' to the installer
[18:26] <ivoks> it's just a location where the file is located
[18:26] <ivoks> preseed/url=http://<IP_ADDRESS>/pressed.cfg
[18:27] <ivoks> next step is to remaster the installation CD so that it includes that file and 'command' by default :)
[18:28] <ahayes> ivoks: Something like http://gcrc.carleton.ca/~ahayes/grub-preeseed.cfg
[18:28] <ivoks> yep
[18:29] <ivoks> preseed/url=http://gcrc.carleton.ca/~ahayes/grub-preeseed.cfg
[18:30] <ahayes> ivoks: Hmm… remaster CD…
[18:30] <ivoks> afk
[18:35] <kirkland> hallyn: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/65973725/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.qemu-kvm_0.14.0%2Bnoroms-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[18:36] <kirkland> hallyn: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/0.14.0+noroms-0ubuntu2/+buildjob/2310157
[18:36] <kirkland> hallyn: qemu-kvm i386 failed to build, which is making qemu-kvm uninstallable, as it depends on qemu-common
[18:55] <hallyn> kirkland: seems like debian/control has issues
[18:55] <hallyn> but that's separate
[18:56] <hallyn> bag toolchain failure
[18:56] <hallyn> kirkland: i suspect the re-enablement og parallel bujild
[18:56] <hallyn> builds even
[19:01] <ahayes> cjwatson: Hmm… Am installing 10.04.2 with tweaked ubuntu-server.seed to include your lines, and booting with disk-detect/multipath/enable=true
[19:03] <ahayes> Am now at screen that says [!] Partition disks - Unable to determine geometry of file/device /dev/mapper/ellie-root. You should not use Parted unless you REALLY know what you're doing! Warning! Ignore/Cancel
[19:03] <ivoks> :)
[19:04] <ivoks> that's on the same server?
[19:04] <ahayes> I obviously don't know what I'm doing… but does it really have to point that out? ;)
[19:04] <ahayes> ivoks: Yep.
[19:04] <ivoks> you care about data on the disks?
[19:04] <ahayes> ivoks: Nope.
[19:05] <ivoks> then hit alt+f2
[19:05] <ivoks> enter the shell
[19:05] <ivoks> adn wipe the disks :)
[19:05] <ahayes> ivoks: How would you wipe them?
[19:05] <ivoks> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX count=10 bs=1M
[19:06] <ivoks> that will be enough for partition table and some additional data :)
[19:06] <ivoks> replace X with the correct char
[19:08] <RoyK> ahayes: that'll overwrite the initial 10MBs with zeros
[19:08] <RoyK> so fdisk shouldn't really complain anymore :P
[19:09] <ahayes> Super. I still see a few devices like sda1, sda2, etc.
[19:09] <RoyK> those are partitions
[19:09] <RoyK> sda is the drive
[19:09] <RoyK> just wipe the start of the drive
[19:09] <ahayes> Ah… sda must be the boot cd
[19:09] <ivoks> no, it's the disk
[19:09] <RoyK> ahayes: cat /proc/partitions
[19:10] <ivoks> don't worry about partitions
[19:10] <ivoks> return to alt+f1
[19:10] <ahayes> Because it is giving me dd: can't open '/dev/sda': No medium found
[19:10] <RoyK> ivoks: a reboot might be handy
[19:10] <ivoks> and go back one step in the installer
[19:10] <ivoks> parted will rescan the disk
[19:10] <RoyK> ivoks: if it says that, cat /proc/partitions to see what partitions exists
[19:10] <RoyK> extract the device name from that
[19:10] <RoyK> it might be sdb or something
[19:10] <RoyK> depending on hardware config
[19:11] <ahayes> OK. Will try a reboot. Went back to 'Detect Disks' in installer but still getting the wwarning
[19:12] <ahayes>
[19:13] <RoyK> ahayes: did you cat /proc/partitions ?
[19:14] <ahayes> I did, but I wiped all the other sd* drives. Not sure why sda was giving me grief.
[19:14] <ivoks> maybe it was the CD :)
[19:14] <ahayes> It will be back up in a sec.
[19:16] <zul> ahayes: are you part of engsoc?
[19:16] <RoyK> &whois ahayes
[19:16] <ahayes> zul: I haven't heard that term in a *long* time. :)
[19:17] <zul> ahayes: oh i havent been around carleton in a  loooong time
[19:17] <ahayes> I was part of Engsoc when it was on Novel 3.x
[19:17] <RoyK> ahayes: Novell?
[19:18] <ahayes> RoyK: Yep. As in… the old stuff. Can't even remember the name now… all the NetBIOS stuff.
[19:18] <ivoks> netware
[19:18] <ahayes> That's it. :)
[19:19]  * RoyK was Master CNE on NetWare 4.11 and 5
[19:20] <ahayes> I was just a 1st year who liked computers. adevries dragged me into helping with the engsoc server.
[19:20] <RoyK> remember all those german nights (Abend)
[19:21] <ahayes> OK! I'm at the partition disks choices without any observations about my competence. :) That worked.
[19:21] <RoyK> :)
[19:21] <orudie> oh hi ivoks
[19:22] <RoyK> last I touched a netware 3.12 server, it had an uptime of 4.5 years, only because they had had a power outage at the time it went down :P
[19:22] <ahayes> Am creating partitions on mpath0 and mpath1
[19:23] <ahayes> RoyK: Yeah… they did run well in my experience too.
[19:25] <RoyK> ahayes: btw, it wasn't NetBIOS, that was Microsoft, NetWare used NCP
[19:25] <RoyK> IPX FTW!
[19:25]  * RoyK ducks for cover
[19:26] <ahayes> RoyK: Stop. My brain can't handle the flashbacks. ;)
[19:26] <RoyK> lol
[19:27]  * RoyK can remember those SAP/RIP broadcasts bitching our precious hub-based 10Mbps network quite badly
[19:28] <patdk-wk> heh
[19:28] <patdk-wk> I dunno how they can deal with that on cable modem networks
[19:29] <RoyK> cable modem networks have a wee issue there - ARP broadcasts on large domains can toast a bad router...
[19:29] <ahayes> Should /boot be ext2?
[19:29] <patdk-wk> doesn't need to be
[19:29] <RoyK> ahayes: ext2 is very safe for /boot
[19:29] <RoyK> but it doesn't matter, really
[19:30] <RoyK> you won't get the fancy ext[34] stuff you won't need :P
[19:30] <ahayes> I saw that it's what the auto-partiion did last time. Just wondered.
[19:30] <patdk-wk> grub2 works with ext4
[19:30] <patdk-wk> but grub1 I think ext4 can sometimes confuse it (extents)
[19:30] <RoyK> patdk-wk: no need for journalling or extents on /boot, really
[19:31] <patdk-wk> royk, generally no, but is kind of nice for when your system is running
[19:31] <patdk-wk> if it does crash
[19:31] <patdk-wk> but a fsck of /boot is normally fast enough
[19:31] <RoyK> patdk-wk: /boot is hardly touched anyway
[19:31] <patdk-wk> hopefully :)
[19:31] <patdk-wk> mine seems to only crash when I'm touching /boot
[19:31] <RoyK> if so, I'd use ext3, less options that might fail, and better tested
[19:32] <ahayes> Here we go. Moment of truth.
[19:32] <RoyK> just use reiser4 for it all and live an interesting life.....
[19:34]  * RoyK prefers boredom to interesting times when it comes to having stable servers
[19:36] <ahayes> Dum dee dum… just waiting for mkfs.
[19:37] <RoyK> ext4?
[19:37] <ahayes> Yes.
[19:37] <ahayes> For /boot and /
[19:37] <RoyK> ahayes: how many drives?
[19:37] <ahayes> 2
[19:37] <RoyK> k
[19:37] <RoyK> any mirroring?
[19:37] <ahayes> Yes. 2 drives in Raid-1
[19:37] <RoyK> sw or hw?
[19:38] <ahayes> sw
[19:39]  * RoyK likes this setup http://pastebin.com/GipEC95B
[19:39] <ahayes> It's /boot / and swap on md0,md1, and md2, on top of mpath0 and mpath1
[19:40] <RoyK> sorry, what's mpath? multipathing?
[19:40] <ahayes> Yes.
[19:41] <RoyK> erm - I don't get it - you're multipathing to two drives that are mirrored?
[19:41] <ahayes> It's all on a supermicro SC417 chassis with three LSI 9211-8i cards.
[19:42] <RoyK> how many physical drives?
[19:42] <ahayes> It's because the pair of drives are on the SAS backplane like all the others. So they are multipathed.
[19:42] <rnigam> Hi i just installed a kvm guest using vmbuilder. When I tried to do virsh start vm1 I get this error: Failed to start domain mav-vm1
[19:42] <rnigam> error: operation failed: failed to retrieve chardev info in qemu with 'info c dev'
[19:42] <ahayes> I've got 12 in there now, but it will take 72 2.5" drives.
[19:43] <RoyK> ahayes: why aren't you using zfs for this?
[19:43] <RoyK> ahayes: it's _very_ much better than anything linux has
[19:43] <RoyK> that is, linux has fuse-based zfs, but it somewhat sucks in regards to write speed
[19:44] <ahayes> That was my first thought but OpenSolaris/Nexenta is in a bit of flux right now.
[19:44] <RoyK> we're on OpenIndiana with some 350TB on four boxes
[19:44] <ahayes> I wasn't confident that it would all work out in the long run.  Especially the lovely #ubuntu-server support. ;)
[19:46] <RoyK> ahayes: it's your choice, but without ZFS, you won't be able to detect 'silent errors', which are becoming a bigger problem every year
[19:46] <ivoks> RoyK: go to #we_depend_on_oracle's_technology :)
[19:46] <RoyK> ahayes: my advice is: Try OpenIndiana, please, I know it works. We're using it in production and have been for quite some time
[19:47] <RoyK> ivoks: openindiana is open - it's not controlled by oracle
[19:47] <ahayes> This smells like a battle… please… I'm just a lowly guy trying to run multipath. :)
[19:48] <ahayes> I'm still waiting to see if grub installs itself....
[19:49] <RoyK> ahayes: sure, but I'm quite sure a Linux-based storage setup won't work remotely as well as a zfs-based one. If you're just in the test phase, please test something that can do ZFS natively
[19:49] <ivoks> zfs freeks :)
[19:50] <ahayes> Ugh…. Failed.
[19:50] <andol> ivoks: Well, once you get a taste of it...
[19:50] <ivoks> :)
[19:51] <ahayes> [!!] Configuring grub-pc - Unable to install GRUB in /dev/md0 - Executing 'grub-install /dev/md0' failed. This is a fatal error.
[19:51] <RoyK> ivoks: would you want to have 350TB on something that doesn't detect data errors, but rather just hope that the drives' CRC is sufficient?
[19:51] <ivoks> RoyK: relax
[19:51] <ivoks> i was just joking
[19:52]  * RoyK is quite calm :)
[19:55] <ahayes> Hmm… I'm looking at logs.
[19:56] <ahayes> It says: Is device-mapper missing from kernel?
[19:56] <ahayes> And: /pro/devices: fopen failed: No such file or directory
[19:58] <RoyK> ahayes: /pro?
[19:58] <ahayes> sorry… /proc
[19:59] <RoyK> htf do you type …?
[20:00] <ahayes> I have to type it in. Can't cut&paste from IPMI console.
[20:05] <ahayes> Sooo… should I continue without the bootloader? Or is there someting I can do at the prompt?
[20:17] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: you still around?
[20:17] <hallyn> kirkland: are you still around
[20:20] <hallyn> kirkland: can you re-fire that qemu-kvm i386 build?  I can't reproduce it on porter-i386.  If it fails again I'll make it not use parallel build and that might help, but I'm hoping it was a transient gcc error.
[20:32] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, ack
[20:33] <Daviey> hallyn, build re-queued
[20:34] <zul> Daviey: were you able to fix that ipmi problem?
[20:35] <Daviey> zul, think so
[20:35] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: could take a look at bug #629234 and re-upload the lucid sru please?
[20:36] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, is there a merged debdiff or bzr branch?
[20:37] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: yes both. The upload got rejected because someone else requested an upload fixing one of the bugs I',m addressing without taking in consideration other bug reports openned.
[20:38] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, you want me to reupload https://code.launchpad.net/~andreserl/ubuntu/lucid/vsftpd/sru1 ?
[20:39] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: correct
[20:43] <hallyn> Daviey: thanks
[20:58] <a_girl> I need help getting my first server up, any takers have time?
[21:00] <lacaferreira> Hello Guys, My name is Andrew Ferreira, Brazil I'm from the Ubuntu community. I'm having a problem with Squid Proxy could someone help me?
[21:01] <zee313> hi !
[21:01] <zee313> I hv downloaded googleearth from http://www.google.com/earth/download/thanks.html#os=linux#linux_dl=deb_32
[21:02] <zee313> But unfortunately it is not opening the program
[21:02] <a_girl> can you get in the downloaded file?
[21:02] <zee313> plz solve my problem
[21:02] <zee313> yes
[21:03] <enquora> can anyone tell me why map_static is reported as an invalid keyword in my nfs exports file?
[21:03] <ScottK> !ask | a_girl
[21:03] <Patrickdk> strange flood of people
[21:03] <ScottK> zee313: Since that pacakge isn't part of Ubuntu, you're probably better off asking the providers of the package for help.
[21:03] <a_girl> ScottK: it's more than one question and I'd like to know someone has an hour+ to help me through this
[21:04] <ScottK> a_girl: Probably no one has that kind of time to dedicate to you, but if you start asking your questions, the odds are reasonable that someone will have time for most of them if you are patient.
[21:05] <lacaferreira> My Squid performs block msn according to the user account, authorized users accessed normally from both a time for another authorized users started receiving the error when trying to login 800488eb. anyone have any idea?
[21:05] <a_girl> I've just installed 10.10 with webserver enabled and openssh enabled, but had no connection where it was in the house, so I didn't set up DHCP or internet.  I moved it to there there is internet but there's no room for plugs/periferials so I need to access it remotely
[21:06] <a_girl> from there, I think I have it
[21:06] <a_girl> ScottK: how's that?
[21:06] <Patrickdk> doesn't explain much at all, but
[21:06] <Patrickdk> did you give it an ip address?
[21:07] <a_girl> I did not set it to an ipaddress
[21:07] <Patrickdk> if it's not set for dhcp, and doesn't have a static ip, there will be no way to access it
[21:07] <ScottK> a_girl: I think the default is to dhcp, so if you've installed ssh server you should be able to boot it with a network connection and just ssh in.
[21:08] <a_girl> I tried to ssh into it, but the connection times out.
[21:08] <hallyn> kim0: I'm not ignoring you btw, just got spice 0.8.0 package built locally, doing qemu next, then ill push to ppa if it all works
[21:08] <a_girl> also; I'm using at&t uverse, so all the computers use 1 ipaddress
[21:09] <a_girl> :(
[21:09] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: ping
[21:09] <a_girl> still in college, so I have nil power over internet
[21:15] <a_girl> how do I set up DHCP from cli?
[21:16] <Patrickdk> man interfaces
[21:16] <Patrickdk> just two lines needed
[21:16] <Patrickdk> strange, no dhcp example
[21:17] <Patrickdk> auto eth0
[21:17] <a_girl> ssh should be: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:17] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, give me one minute
[21:17] <a_girl> right?
[21:17] <Patrickdk> iface eth0 inet dhcp
[21:17] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: sure thingy ;)
[21:17] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, ready :-) thank you
[21:18] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: by any chnage you have a maverick box to verify a SRU? :)
[21:18]  * RoyK wants IPv6
[21:18] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, not now, but we can create one
[21:18] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, what do you need there?
[21:19] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: bug #677764
[21:19] <jkg_> RoyK: bah, a couple of hours ago you were all about IPX. what happened to you? ;)
[21:19] <RoyK> jkg: that was just talking of Old Times
[21:19] <RoyK> IPX is quite dead :þ
[21:19] <jkg> (thankfully ;) )
[21:19] <RoyK> indeed
[21:20] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, I will iso-install one now
[21:20] <Patrickdk> what?
[21:20] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: awesome. thanks!
[21:20] <Patrickdk> it's alive and kicking (need it to play doom and descent)
[21:24] <a_girl> iface command not found
[21:24] <a_girl> need help configuring ip address from cli
[21:24] <genii-around> a_girl: That line beginning with "iface" is what you put into the /etc/network/interfaces file
[21:27] <genii-around> Alternately, if you just want a one-off: sudo dhclient eth0                   might work
[21:32] <kim0> hallyn: thank you man! you're my hero :)
[21:32] <a_girl> worked!  Thanks!
[21:41] <a_girl> anyone know about distributing the server load across multiple machines?
[21:42] <a_girl> need to know how to do that
[21:42] <Patrickdk> !google loadbalancer
[21:42] <ScottK> It depends a lot on what kind of load you are trying to distribute.
[21:45] <andygraybeal> when do yuo guys think btrfs will be ready for production?  a few  years or a few months?
[21:46] <laen> andygraybeal: in a year, wild guess.
[21:46] <andygraybeal> yea, thank you for the wild guess.
[21:46] <andygraybeal>  :)
[22:10] <Daviey> hallyn, I you seeking sponsorship for open-vms-* ?
[22:11] <hallyn> Daviey: are you asking me if i am?
[22:13] <Daviey> err yeah, sorry.
[22:13] <hallyn> Daviey: i'd have done a merge request by now, but i'm convinced someone will come back with all sorts of nit-picks :)
[22:13] <Daviey> hallyn, funny guy :)
[22:13] <hallyn> Daviey: shoudl i do a bzr merge request and ask you?
[22:13] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: almost done with the eucalyptus changes, just waiting to build in PPA to test
[22:14] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, awesome :)
[22:14] <Daviey> hallyn, Just looking at the dupe count, would be good to get it fixed soon :)
[22:15] <Daviey> hallyn, so yeah, if it's not too scary delta (not looked yet), happy to do that now
[22:15] <hallyn> Daviey: yeah.  i was just waiting for a confirmation, but someone did say it worked for them
[22:15] <hallyn> Daviey: the delta *is* scary.  no helping that
[22:15] <hallyn> ill point you to it :)
[22:19] <hallyn> Daviey: done.  merge request assigned to you for lp:~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/natty/open-vm-tools/merge-2011.02.23-368700
[22:22] <Daviey> hallyn, Thanks... when it states "The diff has been truncated for viewing."   ... i know i want to cry.
[22:24] <hallyn> Daviey: you could just as well get the open-vm-tools git tree and 'git diff 2010.06.16..2011.02.23'
[22:24] <Daviey> hallyn, I don't suppose you have a decent upstream changelog do you?
[22:24] <hallyn> in fact, let me just...
[22:26] <hallyn> Daviey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/578064/
[22:26] <Daviey> good stuff!
[22:26] <hallyn> that's diffstat, not changelog
[22:27] <hallyn> summary: 749 files changed, 120530 insertions(+), 88117 deletions(-)
[22:27] <Daviey> *sobs*
[22:27] <hallyn> do we know ebroder?  he used to package it...  i wonder if we should seek his blessing
[22:28] <hallyn> (and save you the pain)
[22:28] <Daviey> hallyn, Yes - that is a good idea!
[22:29] <Daviey> hallyn, cherry picking a specific fix is not viable?
[22:29] <hallyn> hm, i guess he only did it once.  i thought i'd seen his name more than that
[22:29] <hallyn> Daviey: no, that's what iw as trying yesterday
[22:30] <Daviey> hallyn, Yeah, if you spent a good amount of time on it, then perhaps this is the best approach.
[22:30] <hallyn> Daviey: after replacing the ioctl stuff, i only proceeded to further kernel module build breakages.  I could try again...
[22:30] <Daviey> hallyn, I don't suppose you know what debian's plans are do you?
[22:31] <hallyn> Daviey: i don't.  I emailed the list (mentioned in control) + daniel, no response
[22:31] <hallyn> I figured I would email them again with a debdiff or, more likely, link to the bzr tree
[22:38] <hallyn> Daviey: emailed them and cc:d you
[22:41] <rnigam> Hello everyone , if any one has solution or suggestion ot this thread :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10542465#post10542465 please reply in the thread. Thanks,
[22:41] <Daviey> hallyn, So, Debian has bumped the epoch... so i'm less concerned about us getting ahead of debian... on this.
[22:45] <Daviey> hallyn, good, thanks for the mail - lets see if they respond tomorrow.
[22:48] <hallyn> Daviey: 'bumped the epoch' ?
[22:51] <Daviey> hallyn, you are proposing 2011.02.23-368700-0ubuntu1 right?
[22:52] <hallyn> yes
[22:52] <Daviey> hallyn, well Debian has 1:8.4.2-261024-1 .... the 1: is the epoch, and that trumps yours which is an implied 0:
[22:53] <Daviey> so even if yours gets uploaded as is, it's technically a lower version than Debian's current
[22:53] <Daviey> even tho yours is a newer upstream version :)
[22:54] <Daviey> So come next cycle, we know we can still sync/merge no matter what.
[22:56] <hallyn> that's a good thing?
[23:04] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: done: https://code.launchpad.net/~andreserl/ubuntu/natty/eucalyptus/lp732082/+merge/52780
[23:05] <Daviey> hallyn, Yes... I'm saying that there is no fear of us getting too far ahead of Debian, meaning we either need to fudge the verison or maintain our own stuff till the end of dawn
[23:05] <Daviey> hallyn, We can sync next cycle if/when they caught up.
[23:06] <Daviey> hallyn, I think you need to reference that it is a newer version than the one in Debian, incase some does a drive by merge / sync next cycle.
[23:07] <Daviey> hallyn, But I think it is /reasonable/ to raise a FFe, with some ambiguity about what the features of new version snapshot - stating you have spent significant time trying to bisect a fix, and the current one is totally unusable.
[23:12] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, Hmm... lp:ubuntu/$release/eucalyptus is only used post release.:(
[23:12] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, see the merge conflicts :/
[23:14] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: what's your branch again?
[23:15] <RoAkSoAx> :)
[23:15] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, bzr diff -c-1 > ../patch ; bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-virt/ubuntu/natty/eucalyptus/natty ; cd natty ; patch -p0 < ../patch
[23:16] <Daviey> flat patches ++ :)
[23:17] <RoAkSoAx> k give me a sec then
[23:20] <Daviey> hmm.... you might need to bzr diff -c-1 debian/ ; actually.... the .pc has made it a pain in the bum
[23:20] <Daviey> it's just debian/ changes, right?
[23:20] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: yah you can just download the diff and the bzr patch ../xyz.diff
[23:20] <RoAkSoAx> gotta run for a bit
[23:20] <RoAkSoAx> brbr
[23:21] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, Okay, i'll probably attack this my tomorrow now
[23:21] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, nice one.


[03:56] <mv-var2root> I am trying to move /var back to / instead of its own partition, because I am out of space. How should I do this?
[04:12] <SporkWitch> mv-var2root: that is so much a google question that when i googled it to confirm my advice, it was in the giant blurb at the top, with numbered steps (read: i didn't even have to click on one of the results)
[04:13] <SporkWitch> search "move var to another partition
[04:13] <mv-var2root> I googled it to, and that answer doesn't seem to fit my issue
[04:14] <mv-var2root> var is already on a separate partition.
[04:14] <mv-var2root> I want to un-separate it from /
[04:14] <mv-var2root> so I can make /home (sharing a device with /var) bigger.
[04:16] <mv-var2root> does that make sense or are you confused, sporkwitch?
[04:17] <SporkWitch> mv-var2root: it shouldn't make a difference whether you're moving it to root or from root.  The procedure would be the same.
[04:19] <mv-var2root> so it's same thing even though i'm moving /var to an already existing partition?
[04:19] <mv-var2root> because that's the part that's confusing me is that all the results i got were people asking about moving var to a new partiton.
[04:21] <mv-var2root> of course, none if this matters at all if I can simply make a /foo with permissons that libvirt won't complain about.
[04:21] <mv-var2root> i can't seem to get it to have permissions for any other directory besides /var/lib/libvirt/images
[04:22] <mv-var2root> and /var is just too small. maybe my questions was too much work for what I really needed?
[04:22]  * mv-var2root is schizophrenia and can be confused/ing sometimes.
[04:27] <SporkWitch> so this is really an XY problem, heh
[04:28] <SporkWitch> the real problem is you need to help learning qemu-kvm, the permissions it needs, and how to set them.
[04:28] <SporkWitch> i would ask for help in that channel.
[04:28] <mv-var2root> i tried to go to that channel but i couldn't connect to them
[04:29] <SporkWitch> as far as moving /var, yes, it would be the same.
[04:29] <SporkWitch> most channels won't let you talk unless you register your nick.  Some won't even let you enter.
[04:30] <SporkWitch> you need to register with nickserv by typing: /msg nickserv register <password> <email>
[04:30] <SporkWitch> mv-var2root: i'd choose a better nickname before doing so, though; you can change you nick with: /nick <newnick>
[05:10] <ChetManly> is the issue with dual display lightdm login manager still an issue?
[05:10] <ChetManly> or whatever its called now?
 @Robert Welti, It will just upade you applitions a bit, but wont change the version of the plasma desktop
[08:12] <acheronuk> No problem :)
[08:28] <user|86388> hi, how install new kde in kubuntu 16.04, i think about KDE repo testing
[08:28] <SporkWitch> user|86388: do you mean the backports?
[08:28] <SporkWitch> user|86388: if so, google 'kubuntu backports 16.04'
[08:29] <user|86388> my  next ask, kde neon = backports?
[08:32] <acheronuk> no, neon is not kubuntu backports
[08:36] <user|86388> ok thanks for help, backport is instaling
[08:37] <acheronuk> what do you mean by "i think about KDE repo testing"?
[08:38] <acheronuk> If you are literally looking for development builds of kde packages rather than stable releases, Neon might be better for you.
[11:35] <Ajaxx> cls
[11:45] <Ajaxx> hi all
[11:57] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[20:31] <emma> randomly but not infrequently my audio just stops workig. When I look in the audio volume in the taskbar there is even a red speaker at the bottom. When I try to adjust anything then kpannel crashes.
[20:31] <emma> the only known way to get audio back is to turn off my laptop and restart it
[20:31] <emma> Any ideas how to get audio back *that will be faster and easier than* restarting my laptop?
[20:37] <emma> looks like i have to restart then.
[20:39] <valorie> emma: you might try alsa-tools...... I think that's the name
[20:39] <valorie> sec
[20:40] <valorie> yeah, that's the name
[20:40] <valorie> in your commandline, just `alsa-tools` as I recall
[20:40] <valorie> !alsa
[20:42] <valorie> emma: it is probably not random, but something like skype or flash hogging the sound
[20:42] <valorie> there is a widget to control pulseaudio if that's the case
[20:43] <valorie> hmmm, where did that go
[20:45] <valorie> pavucontrol
[22:58] <linux__> When I run text file by kate does not run the file from start line, it is run from last edited line , How I can stop this option?


[00:00] <ahayzen> oh is tht might be the building not the uploading i'm looking at :P
[00:01] <ahayzen> StevenK, i think it is the series change i'll wait until more changes are made to the bzr branch and notify you if i have any issues. Thanks for you help :)
[00:03] <StevenK> ahayzen: You're welcome
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[11:51] <supermagnum357> Hi, i have a idea for a software project but i cannot code. I have the required documentation. Is it somehow possible to post the idea on launcpad, so other people can se it and help out if they want to ?
[14:18] <Corey> So due to a doc bug I've pushed packages to be built to the wrong PPA. How do I delete them sanely?
[14:22] <Corey> Durh.
[14:22] <Corey> Helps if I log in, got it sorted.
[14:30] <apachelogger> in case you have a policy for linkedin spam in bug reports... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxcb/+bug/419501/comments/62
[16:58] <shadeslayer> uhm, could someone rescore https://launchpad.net/~netrunner-os/+archive/ppa/+build/4552963 , I *really* need that  built right away :S
[17:02] <shadeslayer> wgrant: ^^ pretty please
[18:51] <psusi> so I think I may have found a bug in lp... bug #35492 was reopened a while back as affecting hotplug(Ubuntu)... which no longer exists... trying to mark it as invalid results in an error that there is no such package