[00:22] <siteUser> Hello
[00:22] <siteUser> I got one question
[00:23] <siteUser> Why the unity launcher is not moveable?
[05:21] <jono> DBO, yo
[05:21] <jono> you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/862996?
[05:43] <jono> hey didrocks
[05:44] <didrocks> hey jono
[05:44] <jono> didrocks, will there be another Unity release before release?
[05:44] <jono> the last release brought a pretty funky bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/862743
[05:44] <didrocks> jono: no, yesterday was the last one
[05:44] <didrocks> jono: this patch has just been cherry-picked and uploaded
[05:44] <jono> this bug makes the desktop unusable
[05:44] <jono> ahhh
[05:44] <jono> cool
[05:45] <jono> can I ask one more quick favor, could you take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/862996 and see if this affects you?
[05:45] <DBO> jono, i am so far ahead of you on this one :P
[05:45] <jono> DBO, lol
[05:45]  * jono hi-fives DBO
[05:45] <DBO> alriiiiight
[05:46] <jono> DBO, do you have the issue with the lens range thing?
[05:46] <DBO> is it me or are hi-fives becoming gay?
[05:46] <didrocks> jono: this is after logout/login, right, with latest u-m-l?
[05:46] <DBO> jono, which issue?
[05:46] <jono> didrocks, I did a full upgrade and I got that issue
[05:46] <didrocks> ah, not the filter upgrade
[05:46] <jono> didrocks, oh you mean the desktop thing?
[05:46] <htorque> good morning! bug 861745 - is this a dupe?
[05:46] <jono> oh, this affects the files and music lens
[05:46] <didrocks> not the filter *itself*
[05:47] <didrocks> jono: you mean, how clicking on the filter isn't logical
[05:47] <jono> I think the issue is in the widget
[05:47] <jono> didrocks, see the bug, I explain what I mean
[05:47] <didrocks> jono: yeah, there was a lot of churn yesterday, but I found it no logical as well
[05:47] <DBO> okay I see why its doing it
[05:47] <DBO> im not sure I can fix it though
[05:47] <DBO> this code is outside my comfort zone
[05:47] <didrocks> jono: yeah, I confirm this behavior and don't find it logical as wel
[05:48] <didrocks> DBO: I'll see with gord, I guess it's on his plate :)
[05:48] <jono> I worry because it really impacts the usability of the filter
[05:48] <jono> maybe gord can take a look and fix it
[05:48] <DBO> didrocks, is qt in the middle of an upgrade
[05:48] <jono> if you could confirm and prioritize the bug that would be cool
[05:48] <didrocks> DBO: yeah, I pushed a new Qt yesterday
[05:48] <didrocks> jono: doing
[05:48] <jono> thanks didrocks
[05:48] <didrocks> and will ping gord
[05:48] <jono> oh, and...morning!
[05:49]  * jono is such an asshole
[05:49] <didrocks> jono: good evening/night ;-)
[05:49] <jono> :-)
[05:49] <didrocks> jono: if we can cherry-pick this one today, I'll probably push it
[05:49] <didrocks> otherwise, totally qualified for an SRU
[05:49] <jono> didrocks, cool
[05:50] <DBO> who are these people in G+
[05:50] <jono> things are feeling good for me in 11.10
[05:50] <DBO> I keep gaining followers
[05:50] <jono> DBO, fans
[05:50] <DBO> no
[05:50] <didrocks> DBO: same here, I don't understand…
[05:50] <jono> they want them some Jason action
[05:50] <DBO> jono, thats just you
[05:50] <DBO> I'll send you a photo
[05:50] <DBO> but dont tell me what you do with it, okay?
[05:50] <jono> I will get it laminated, that's what
[05:50] <jono> lol
[05:50] <DBO> thanks
[05:51] <DBO> I appreciate you giving my photo a plastic condom
[05:51] <jono> DBO, btw, did you ever fix the issue with the launcher not appearing when moving the mouse slowly to the edge
[05:51] <jono> I still get that happening sometimes
[05:51] <DBO> jono, yes
[05:52] <jono> interesting
[05:52] <didrocks> this was on the list and fix released :)
[05:52] <DBO> jono, I cant make it happen anymore
[05:52] <DBO> so
[05:52] <DBO> if you can
[05:52] <didrocks> ah si
[05:52] <DBO> let me know
[05:52] <jono> sometimes the edge detect fails for me and the launcher won't appear
[05:52] <didrocks> DBO: there is one case
[05:52] <DBO> didrocks, what is that/
[05:52] <didrocks> jono: is it before you click on the launcher, or in the dash?
[05:52] <didrocks> DBO: basically, 3 bugs are the same
[05:52] <didrocks> one sec
[05:52] <jono> but then if I go to a virtual desktop with no windows and the launcher appears, it starts working ok
[05:52] <jono> didrocks, not noticed
[05:53] <jono> didrocks, it is when I want to make the launcher appear
[05:53] <DBO> maybe there is an initial state issue...
[05:53] <didrocks> bug #860805
[05:53] <jono> oh weird, if you hit the top left corner of the screen the launcher doesnt appear either
[05:53] <didrocks> bug #819721
[05:53] <DBO> jono, thats expected now
[05:53] <jono> DBO, ahh
[05:53] <DBO> jono, since the window controls go there
[05:53] <DBO> for maximized windows
[05:53] <didrocks> and there is a third one
[05:54] <DBO> jono, prepare to fight community backlash
[05:54] <DBO> set phasers to stun
[05:54] <jono> I doubt it
[05:54] <didrocks> DBO: basically, if you don't focus once the launcher/dash, you can't make any action with it
[05:54] <DBO> didrocks, i know of what yu speak, and amazingly those bugs are not actually related...
[05:54] <jono> this won't cause much of a deal
[05:54] <didrocks> DBO: njpatel confirmed that it's all the same :)
[05:54] <DBO> didrocks, I know, njpatel asked me when you asked him
[05:54] <DBO> I told him yes then
[05:54] <DBO> I was wrong
[05:55] <htorque> didrocks: third one: bugs 832150 ;-)
[05:56] <didrocks> htorque: thanks! that was the third in the pack :)
[07:18] <htorque> is the extra ubuntu icon in the top panel supposed to be there? http://img.xrmb2.net/images/145549.png
[07:32] <Saviq> htorque: it's an ongoing debate, see the last few comments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/732016
[07:32] <htorque> Saviq: thanks
[08:11] <smspillaz> hey @ all
[08:20] <Saamm> The fix for this Bug #859885 in Unity 4.20 is not fully functional. Still having issues.
[08:28] <Saamm> bug bot not working?
[09:05] <AlanBell> anyone know when the ubuntu mono font is landing in oneiric?
[09:05] <jbicha> AlanBell: it's already landed, but it's not been decided whether it will be default mono or not
[09:07] <AlanBell> oh, OK, I just noticed terminal wasn't using it and put off doing some screenshots
[09:08] <AlanBell> ah yes, it is there :)
[09:09] <AlanBell> I have been using it in Natty for ages and I am quite used to it now
[09:09] <jbicha> I think it hurts my eyes a bit, today's my first day with it
[10:14] <Saamm> Still having issues with Bug 859885 fixed in unity 4.20
[10:16] <Saamm> Should I open a new bug?
[10:44] <Trevinho> didrocks: this is the fix for that BAMF bug I was talking to you yesterday: https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/bamf/only-show-in-unity-fix
[10:58] <didrocks> Trevinho: yeah, this is fine as an SRU, please open a bug for it
[11:23] <mardy> Kaleo: hi, can I work on any other bugs than those targeted for the 4.14 milestone? I don't feel that I can do much there...
[11:24] <Kaleo> mardy: that does not sound good :)
[11:25] <Kaleo> mardy: pick something you will have fun with
[11:27] <andyrock> what about adding an option to keep the desktop icons in the right side of the monitor?
[11:35] <mardy> Kaleo: I'll pick https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-2d/+bug/860400
[11:38] <Kaleo> mardy: oki doki
[11:40] <ilari_> hello folks. I one slight problem: I installed unity over gnome2 on ubuntu studio. I put ''compiz --replace ccp'' to run on startup, so that unity would start. But unity wont apparently load the settings from previous session when starting up: Added icons and applets wont startup. Whats the problem?
[11:54] <didrocks> ilari_: you should rather run "unity"
[11:55] <hicham> the python wrapper ?
[12:01] <didrocks> hicham: yeah, as I don't know what ubuntu studio is doing and probably net setting the right profile
[12:01] <hicham> didrocks: I wish that the gsettings backend will be better than the gconf one
[12:01] <didrocks> hicham: still base on the same profile system
[12:02] <didrocks> lunch time
[12:02] <hicham> didrocks: when the gsettings backend will be available ?
[12:02] <didrocks> hicham: it's a question for #compiz
[12:02] <didrocks> or #compiz-dev
[12:03] <hicham> didrocks: thanks
[12:03] <didrocks> yw
[12:05] <ilari_> didrocks: thanks. Ill try to run simply ''unity''.
[12:05] <hicham> didrocks: classic question, no news on upstreaming gtk menu proxy patch ?
[12:06] <didrocks> hicham: haven't I told you aready that's a question for tedg, not me?
[12:06] <didrocks> hicham: tedg is upstream, he's the one proposing the patch
[12:06] <hicham> didrocks: oh, sorry
[13:16] <Trevinho> didrocks: here you are: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bamf/+bug/863290
[13:19] <didrocks> Trevinho: thanks!
[13:33] <smoser> anyone able to confirm ?
[13:33] <smoser> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/863301
[13:34] <Saamm> This bug 859885 has been fixed in unity 4.20 but problem still persists. Should I file a new bug or comment on this only?
[15:19] <jono> DBO, hey
[15:19] <jono> DBO, you know how I mentioned sometimes the launcher won't trigger, I think it happens after suspend and resume
[15:19] <jono> I just unsuspended and it won't appear for me when I use the mouse against thr left side of the screen
[15:19] <jono> I have to use the Super key to see it
[15:20] <DBO> jono, how up to date are you on compiz?
[15:20] <jono> up to date as of last night
[15:20] <jono> eight hours ago or so
[15:21] <DBO> jono, open  terminal please
[15:21] <DBO> type "xprop"
[15:22] <DBO> and click on the far left edge of your screen
[15:22] <DBO> put that shit in pastebin
[15:22] <DBO> and let me read it like a boss
[15:22] <jono> jono@forge:~$ xprop
[15:22] <jono> _NET_WM_ALLOWED_ACTIONS(ATOM) = _NET_WM_ACTION_ABOVE, _NET_WM_ACTION_BELOW
[15:22] <jono> XdndAware(ATOM) = ARC
[15:22] <jono> thats it
[15:23] <DBO> jono, same thing but wint xwininfo please
[15:24] <jono> DBO, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/699852/
[15:25] <DBO> jono, I call shinanegans
[15:25] <ali1234> i get that problem, however, i never suspend my desktop machine
[15:25] <DBO> jono, does alt-tab show up properly?
[15:25] <jono> DBO, what's the deal?
[15:26] <jono> DBO, yep
[15:26] <DBO> jono, the deal is pretty raw
[15:26] <jono> that is how I roll
[15:26] <DBO> now I need a reliable way to reproduce the issue
[15:26] <jono> I am raw
[15:26] <jono> raw bacon
[15:26] <DBO> jono, you're likely to give people worms?
[15:26] <jono> lol
[15:27] <jono> DBO, anything else I can do?
[15:27] <jono> any idea what the cause is?
[15:27] <DBO> uhhhhhm... yeah hold on
[15:27] <DBO> dont do anything that might fix this state for you
[15:27] <jono> ok
[15:28] <om26er> smspillaz, Hi again :-O 'show desktop' is almost fixed except the launcher does not appear when the desktop is actually shown. thoughts?
[15:33] <DBO> jono, just so you know, I am listening to Vanilla Ice, I think this should assure you that I care about this bug
[15:33] <DBO> jono, could I convince you to build a custom unity?
[15:33] <jono> DBO, hah!
[15:33] <jono> how do I build it?
[15:34] <jono> and can I get rid of it afterwards?
[15:34] <DBO> you've never done it?
[15:34] <jono> nope
[15:34] <jono> not Unity
[15:34] <DBO> I know this is just a silly thing to call you
[15:34] <DBO> but you're a virgin
[15:34] <DBO> Im not sure now is the time to introduce you to this then :/
[15:34] <jono> indeed
[15:34] <jono> be gentle
[15:34] <DBO> jono, okay this will probably fuck up your system
[15:34] <DBO> so save your work
[15:35] <jono> ok
[15:35] <DBO> (you might have to reboot)
[15:35] <jono> thats a good start
[15:35] <DBO> now open d-feet
[15:35] <jono> no worries
[15:35]  * jono installs d-feet
[15:35] <didrocks> time to poke the HideMachine!
[15:35] <DBO> ಠ_ಠ
[15:35] <jono> btw, I just noticed my launcher works fine now
[15:35] <jono> I didnt do anything
[15:35] <jono> it sjust started working
[15:35] <DBO> didrocks, yeah but I get a crash every time I hit the introspect method
[15:35] <DBO> does it work for you?
[15:36] <didrocks> DBO: oh? 2 weeks before, it was still fine
[15:36] <didrocks> DBO: let me check
[15:36] <DBO> its always crashed for me
[15:36] <DBO> I dont know wtf I do wrong :P
[15:36] <jono> DBO, still load d-feet?
[15:36] <didrocks> DBO: see how to get the bug fixed? tell people to install d-feet :)
[15:36] <DBO> what are you doing?
[15:36] <DBO> jono, not unless you can trigger the issue again
[15:36]  * didrocks adds d-feet as an unity dep :)
[15:36] <jono> DBO, it seems to be back to normal now
[15:37] <DBO> didrocks, you just go to the introspect method and pass "Launcher" right?
[15:37] <didrocks> DBO: yep, let me retry now
[15:38] <jono> ok I will install these new updates and reboot
[15:38] <didrocks> wtf?
[15:38] <didrocks> who broke it?
[15:38] <jono> DBO, will unsuspend when I am done and see if I get the same issue
[15:39] <didrocks> ok, that's bad, our debugger is away…
[15:39]  * DBO puts on some Bob Segar
[15:39] <didrocks> :)
[15:40] <magcius> Is there a reason bamf uses the non-standard "_NET_WM_DESKTOP_FILE"?
[15:40] <didrocks> DBO: btw, if you can review my branch for monday, not sure if it will be a 0 day SRU or final
[15:40] <DBO> ah right
[15:40] <didrocks> because you started listing issue with 1. that I show it's not
[15:40] <om26er> just when i thought the NEW queue was down to a very low number, didrocks synced it with downstream and now its scary 399 NEW :-@
[15:41] <didrocks> never got a 2. :)
[15:41] <DBO> didrocks, approved with comment
[15:41] <DBO> 2) is the comment
[15:41] <didrocks> om26er: yeah, I was thinking that I really needed to launch it again
[15:41] <didrocks> om26er: wait, it's syncing status
[15:41] <didrocks> om26er: hopefully, you will get some confirms for free :)
[15:41] <DBO> om26er, enjoy
[15:42] <didrocks> DBO: looking, thanks!
[15:42] <om26er> didrocks, yeah, alot are getting confirmed on sync thanks to launchpad's autoconfirm feature and its really helpful (sarcasm)
[15:43] <didrocks> om26er: oh, you love it as well I see :-)
[15:43] <om26er> DBO, got a bug for you bug 832150 you might want to look at a later date ;)
[15:44] <om26er> totally in love with the feature :p
[15:44] <didrocks> ;)
[15:45] <didrocks> DBO: thanks! wasn't sure with all this style change which one was the latest with C++11 recommendation ;)
[15:45] <didrocks> DBO: renaming and pushing
[15:48] <om26er> smspillaz, unping my last message seems didrocks already took care of it :-)
[15:48] <ali1234> fwiw i sometimes get this under natty to, but only since some fairly recent update
[15:48] <om26er> bug 863129
[15:49] <om26er> ali1234, i believe it not to be related with the above bug though
[15:49] <ali1234> different bug?
[15:50] <ali1234> the circumstances are pretty similar too, under natty it happens when firefox is maximized (sometimes)
[15:51] <ali1234> could be related to the bug where it thinks maximized windows are on a different desktop? (and thus clicking the icon on the launcher doesn't reveal them)
[15:52] <ali1234> i suppose that wouldn't stop it from unhiding
[16:22] <jono> quick q
[16:22] <jono> how can I get https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/863434 to also affect Ayatana Design?
[16:22] <jono> when I use Also Affects I don't see it as an option
[16:26] <hicham> jono : done
[16:27] <hicham> though it seems a little bit confusing
[16:27] <jono> thanks hicham
[16:27] <hicham> in "Also Affects" you just change the affected project
[16:28] <hicham> I hope unity's patches will be upstreamed at some point
[16:29] <hicham> can I file a bug about that ?
[16:29] <hicham> "Please upstream the patches needed for complete unity functionality" ?
[16:30] <jono> hicham, odd, I tried that
[16:59] <nhaines> Couple quick questions.  I know the last Unity update fixed where the Alt-Tab switch wasn't displaying the Desktop icon.  My Desktop icon has always had and still does) a white bar across the top.  Is this the intended look?
[17:00] <nhaines> In addition, I know several mockups have said the background for the workspace switcher and trash should be the tinted dash color, but it's still light and dark grey for me.
[17:43] <macer1> Hello
[17:43] <macer1> anyone here :)?
[17:43] <macer1> from ayatana team
[17:55] <kenvandine> macer1, hey, just ask your question and if anyone can answer it, they will
[17:55] <macer1> I hate ugly compressed wallpapers on CD
[17:55] <jono> thanks for fixing that Gwibber bug kenvandine
[17:55] <macer1> can you do a normal quality walppapers/icons package?
[17:55] <jono> it is rocking now :-)
[17:56] <kenvandine> jono, thanks for finding that!
[17:56] <jono> :-)
[17:56] <kenvandine> macer1, not if we want to include them on the CD, unfortunately
[17:56] <kenvandine> space is so limited
[17:56] <macer1> every ubuntu is 700Mb so you need to remove and remove
[17:56] <macer1> why not make it DVD?
[17:56] <macer1> like osx lion
[17:56] <htorque> hm, can anyone confirm bug 855831? didrocks set it to confirmed but i think he lied. :P
[17:56] <macer1> like windows 8
[17:56] <macer1> and 7
[17:56] <kenvandine> good discipline
[17:57] <kenvandine> nice to have a limit to keep it from getting insane
[17:57] <macer1> make it 1GB
[17:57] <kenvandine> however, it would be nice if there was a way for users to download the uncompressed wallpapers
[17:57] <kenvandine> every cycle it gets harder and harder to stay under 700M
[17:57] <macer1> it needs to stop
[17:57] <macer1> pleaseee :(
[17:57] <kenvandine> so who knows, maybe someday we'll change the limit
[17:58] <macer1> i hope 12.04 will be on dvd
[17:58] <macer1> bug 863311
[18:00] <macer1> anotehr idea
[18:00] <macer1> use better compression
[18:01] <macer1> like fedora I think
[18:01] <kenvandine> we try, each image is tweaked differently to make them look as good as possible in the size we have
[18:01] <jbicha> macer1: if you want the originals try bug 829213 comment 8
[18:01] <kenvandine> preventing as much banding as possible, etc
[18:02] <nhaines> macer1: you think?  What type of compression are Fedora using and what type of compression are Ubuntu using and how do those two methods compare when used on the stalking ocelot wallpaper?
[18:02] <macer1> I mean compression of all iso
[18:02] <kenvandine> hey jbicha, i reverted your dh_python2 change in the gwibber packaging... it broke the override loading we do to set API keys...
[18:02] <macer1> If I remember correctly fedora use some better compression
[18:02] <kenvandine> jbicha, for next cycle i'll investigate why that broke so we can update the packaging
[18:02] <nhaines> macer1: have you tested this or are you relying on a hunch?
[18:03] <jbicha> kenvandine: yes, thanks, we don't want to break stuff at this point
[18:03] <kenvandine> but reverting it for now was the quickest way to reliably fix it
[18:03] <macer1> what compression is using ubuntu isos now?
[18:03] <macer1> fedora is using xz
[18:03] <jbicha> macer1: Fedora doesn't ship LibreOffice last I remember
[18:04] <jbicha> I believe we use bz2 by default but xz is available on opt-in basis, I'm sure that will get discussed at next UDS
[18:05] <macer1> I can't go to UDS, unfortunately
[18:05] <macer1> :/
[18:05] <kenvandine> macer1, you can always participate remotely
[18:06] <nhaines> macer1: you don't need to fly there.  You can write a blueprint beforehand or participate remotely.
[18:06] <kenvandine> we try very hard to enable everyone to participate
[18:06] <macer1> how I can participate remotely?
[18:07] <macer1> btw. can 12.10 UDS be in Poland :D?
[18:07] <macer1> that will be awesome :D
[18:08] <kenvandine> macer1, look at uds.ubuntu.com
[18:08] <kenvandine> there is info there somewhere...
[18:09] <kenvandine> when the schedules are posted, you can view the blueprints, etherpads, irc and audio there
[18:09] <kenvandine> you can listen in live and each room has irc channels
[18:10] <macer1> cool
[18:10] <kenvandine> if you have something to say, just say it on irc and folks in the room will be able to see it
[18:11] <jbicha> and each physical room has a projector with the irc channel posted so everyone can see the remote feedback
[18:11] <macer1> What is timezone on UDS?
[18:12] <macer1> GMT?
[18:14] <nhaines> UTC
[18:15] <macer1> ok
[18:15] <macer1> I need to go, bye and thanks :D
[18:17] <nhaines> macer1: have a good evening!  :D
[18:18] <macer1> thx :D
[18:20] <macer1> I will be back :D
[18:20] <nhaines> macer1: great.  :)
[19:10] <htorque> smspillaz: hello! out of curiosity i restarted unity within a running session with the -v option and got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/700012/
[19:10] <htorque> smspillaz: does this look ok? 1. the "stacks are out of sync" msg, 2. the "pending configure notifies" shows up a couple of hundred times, 3. and the "this should never happen" warnings.
[19:14] <Saamm> The fix for this bug is not working fully in unity. Please look into it. Bug 859885
[20:11] <jono> would someone mind setting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/811401 to confirmed?
[20:11] <jono> it just happened to me
[21:10] <andyrock> http://www.thisisthecountdown.com/ O.o?
[21:40] <hicham> hi tedg
[21:40] <tedg> Howdy hicham
[21:42] <hicham> tedg : any news on upstream gtk menu proxy patch ?
[21:42] <nhaines> tedg: so this whole Unity thing seems to be working out.  ;)
[21:43] <hicham> tedg : *upstreaming
[21:43] <tedg> hicham, I haven't tried recently.  Though I'll probably ask about it at the GNOME Summit next weekend.
[21:43] <tedg> If nothing else, I'd prefer to get it cleaner.
[21:44] <tedg> Along with scrollbars
[21:44] <tedg> nhaines, Heh, we're trying! :-)
[21:46] <nhaines> tedg: hey, do your workspace switcher and trash can launcher icons have a transparent background or are they gray?
[21:47] <nhaines> (This would be for oneiric)
[21:50] <tedg> nhaines, They changed like 3 or 4 times throughout the release, so I'm not sure.
[21:50] <tedg> nhaines, I think they're transparent...
[21:51] <tedg> Wait, I think I'm wrong.
[21:51] <tedg> DBO, ^
[21:51] <nhaines> tedg: I've literally never seen them go transparent on my system.  Which makes me sad because the mockups look pretty beautiful.  :)
[21:51] <DBO> tedg, join us on G+
[21:52] <tedg> DBO, Is that on Freenode?
[21:52] <tedg> ;-)
[21:52] <tedg> DBO, Do you need me?  I have to go in a few, so I don't want to set up something new if I'm not needed.
[21:52] <DBO> :P
[21:52] <DBO> no
[22:14] <Teester> Hi. I've been working on a lens using Python for Unity in Oneiric.  Up until about a week ago, it was working fine, but recently it has stopped working. Anyone know if anything in the API has been changed that I've missed?


[05:51] <hj> hello, anybody here ?
[05:52] <kgoetz> hi
[05:54] <hj> oh.. hi kgoetz..
[05:54] <kgoetz> :\
[05:54] <hj> i had several questions but the wiki allready solved them
[05:55] <hj> im doing a research for a proyect of the world bank  focused in mexico
[05:55] <hj> innovation to reduce poverty...
[05:55] <kgoetz> :)
[05:55] <hj> i was trying to find out if it was possible to create customized livecd focused on children
[05:55] <hj> and so it happens it does....
[05:56] <hj> do you think that it would possible to sponsor a specific distribution of edubuntu ?
[05:56] <kgoetz> sponsor a derivative of edubuntu?
[05:57] <hj> yup
[05:57] <hj> yes sponsor "pay" some developers to create e costum version for edubuntu
[05:57] <hj> for this specific project of the world bank
[05:57] <kgoetz> i dont know, depending on what you want to derive for it might be better to help them build edubuntu
[05:57] <kgoetz> hm.well
[05:57] <kgoetz> if you choose to sponsor devs, tahts your call.
[05:58] <kgoetz> how you go about that, i dont know, but it is ok
[05:58] <kgoetz> hi crimsun
[05:58] <crimsun> 'lo.
[05:58] <kgoetz> :)
[05:59] <hj> well in brief...   the proyect intends to involve young people in an innovative way to help reduce poverty...
[06:00] <hj> the country in which the proyect will be held is mexico
[06:00] <hj> most of the poverty problemas in mexico is because people lack of access to information, hence they are not able to develop new skills
[06:01] <hj> the idea behind this proposal for the proyect is to give children livecd and equip schools and parks with very low cost terminals
[06:01] <hj> in this way in cooperation with schools...   children could learn to develop skills and have access to knowledge
[06:02] <kgoetz> sounds like what netday (sp?) in south africa
[06:03] <hj> well yes.. in some way... mexico has very similar conditions of poverty of african and some Asiatic countries
[06:04] <hj> this livecd is one of the possible proposals, the second one is a children version of wikipedia
[06:04] <hj> although it might require greater funds
[06:04] <kgoetz> hj: how far do you think you would have to derive from edubuntu? or are you just trying to find ideas at the moment?
[06:05] <hj> well i found that many of the applications needed allready exist...
[06:05] <hj> hold sec please
[06:05] <kgoetz> np
[06:06] <hj> im back
[06:06] <hj> apps such as KDE Edutainment Pack
[06:07] <kgoetz> you would want them included?
[06:07] <hj> yup
[06:07] <hj> i think NEW development wouldnt be necesarry at least at the first phase...
[06:07] <hj> just tons of costumization...
[06:08] <kgoetz> sounds like you want to derive quite a way off a standard cd
[06:08] <hj> the real challenge would be to teach teachers how to use the tools,  and get some infraestructure for centralized information
[06:08] <hj> do you think this is a big problem ?
[06:09] <kgoetz> not as such.
[06:09] <hj> i've only used slax, im quite new in this opensource OS world
[06:09] <hj> never the less in new developments and similar
[06:09] <kgoetz> i'm not a dev, so i cant comment on the current state of edubuntu and whats in it
[06:09] <kgoetz> ogra is the man to ping on that front
[06:10] <hj> graet.. ill make sure to organize more ideas and contact him..
[06:10] <hj> .do you have any other ideas ?
[06:11] <kgoetz> hj:  try emailling the edubuntu/ubuntu-education lists
[06:11] <kgoetz> and see if you can catch RichEd-1  as well
[06:12] <hj> thanks a lot..
[06:12] <hj> and how are you involved in the proyect ?
[06:12] <kgoetz> np. hope it helped
[06:13] <kgoetz> edubuntu? i used to run it on some of my computers, not i hang around to ask indirectly  related questions
[06:13] <kgoetz> and because i hope to start getting edubuntu into schools here
[06:13] <hj> and where are you located ?
[06:14] <kgoetz> Australia
[06:14] <hj> and what has been your experience ?
[06:15] <kgoetz> with eduubuntu? i used the 6.06 release, and it worked well.
[06:15] <hj> and how have schools recieved it ?
[06:15] <kgoetz> i'm hoping for a less 'childish' version, for middle/upper school
[06:15] <kgoetz> i havent deplyed it here yet. i want to do it properly first time ;)
[06:17] <hj> yes, precisly, a distribution for students 12 - 18 would be perfect for my project
[06:17] <kgoetz> hj: i know there was talks of work on one, i just dont know how it went
[06:17] <kgoetz> perhaps if you can work with edubuntu, you can wortk with them to make the version
[06:20] <hj> I have to live for now Karl, but i appreciate a lot your help... i'll et you know of i have any success on promoting edubuntu in mexico and the world bank..
[06:21] <hj> if the world bank likes it i could get some funds...
[06:21] <hj> i gotta move from location... maybe ill return later...
[06:21] <hj> thansk
[06:21] <kgoetz> good luck hd
[06:21] <kgoetz> *hj
[06:21] <kgoetz> look forward to see ing you again
[09:04] <ry0672> hi all
[09:05] <hj> hi there
[09:05] <ry0672> anyone up?
[09:05] <ry0672> hey
[09:05] <ry0672> got a question
[09:05] <hj> im kinda in here, but im a complete neophyte... jajaj im afraid i cant answer much
[09:05] <ry0672> k
[09:05] <hj> jajaja but shoot, im sure between the both of us can find an answer in the wiki and docs
[09:06] <ry0672> thanx
[09:06] <ry0672> I want to install edubuntu for my sister's daugher that's 9 years old
[09:06] <kgoetz> ry0672: you should ask a question, if someone can help, they will
[09:06] <ry0672> i c
[09:07] <ry0672> better yet is edubuntu a safe OS for young children?
[09:08] <ry0672> I am looking for some way that restricts young kids from accessing say prOn sites and the like
[09:08] <ry0672> is edubuntu the way to go? Or should I be looking elsewhere?
[09:09] <hj> whoa, i belive than regardless the OS you use the real danger is in the web outhere... if edubuntu (please confirm) doesnt come with a type of firewall o contrnol access system you would liek to get one...
[09:09] <kgoetz> you could put filters in place, but i havent tried
[09:09] <hj> does edubuntu come with parental control out of the box ?
[09:10] <kgoetz> 606 didnt, i dont know about 6.10
[09:10] <ry0672> filters, good guess I can do a search on that
[09:11] <ry0672> "parental control" ty thats what i meant to ask
[09:11] <ry0672> brb gotta google,lol
[09:11] <kgoetz> if you dont mind some confiuration, theres squid+[chastitybelt,dans gardian]
[09:12] <ry0672> I C... squid+[chastitybelt,dans gardian]
[09:13] <kgoetz> ry0672: do you have ubuntu/edubuntu installed at the moment?
[09:14] <ry0672> no, I have Ubuntu on my laptop, and i'm currently on my gf's pc and am dl'ing the edubuntu Live CD
[09:14] <kgoetz> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/dansguardian
[09:14] <ry0672> WoW
[09:14] <ry0672> TY
[09:14] <kgoetz> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/squid
[09:14] <ry0672> nice
[09:15] <kgoetz> have a look around packages.ubuntu.com if you want to see whats in it :) or look in synaptic
[09:15] <ry0672> again thanx
[09:16] <kgoetz> np
[09:16] <ry0672> will do!
[09:16] <kgoetz> :)
[09:16] <hj> uu squid is really something  i used to recomend it for local goverment agencies..
[09:20] <kgoetz> hj: meaning you like it, or you think its to big?
[09:22] <hj> both..
[09:22] <hj> but i've never tried it in a closed envoriment ... maybe it can work well
[09:22] <kgoetz> i dont know much about filtering proxies - i aimed to educate users at work, rather then block them
[09:22] <kgoetz> and slap them about now and then if i find bad stuff happening
[09:23] <kgoetz> mind you, my work isnt a big corp, so there is some room to manouver
[09:23] <hj> well, as long its a local network squid should be able to do a great job...
[09:24] <hj> im unsure about the same computer that runs as server should be a client itself, even more if its for a child...
[09:25] <hj> but for a small network of even 3 - 5 computers squid gets the job pretty good...
[09:25] <kgoetz> i dont feel sane sugesting someone increase their network complexity - i'm happy to, but i dont like recomending it to someone who just wants a childenres comp.
[09:25] <hj> exactly
[09:26] <hj> uuuh....  "DansGuardian requires squid or another similar caching proxy server on your local network."
[09:27] <kgoetz> yep.
[09:27] <hj> and DansGuardian seems to capsulate more funtions suchs as AV with clam...
[09:28] <hj> seems more like a "smart" frontend to various components...
[09:28] <hj> i would try densguardian....
[10:12] <hj> Ubuntu Christian Edition also includes fully integrated web content parental controls powered by Dansguardian. A graphical tool to adjust the parental control settings has also been developed specifically for Ubuntu Christian Edition. These features are truly what sets Ubuntu Christian Edition apart.
[10:13] <hj> If this guys did it im sure you can manage to do something
[10:13] <hj> ups... he is gone ...
[10:14] <kgoetz> wonder if we have poached that frontend yet
[10:34] <hj> kgoetz:  so, what is it that you do for a living ?
[10:36] <kgoetz> hj: i have been living off my savings. (ie not earning a living). i work as a volunteer for several groups
[10:36] <kgoetz> and for the next 6 months i'll be a full time student
[10:37] <kgoetz> perhaps with a 3 week visit to papua new guinea to setup a network over there using ubuntu+debian
[10:42] <hj> WOW...
[10:43] <hj> i've never been there, but it sounds as if they have a lot of new world - old world cutlures
[10:43] <kgoetz> 'full time student' - i'll probalby get half the course or more on recognition for prior learning
[10:43] <hj> how old are you ?
[10:43] <kgoetz> the trip will be pretty intence if i get to go
[10:43] <kgoetz> 20
[10:43] <hj> okz
[10:44] <hj> thats pretty cool, being able to travel and work as a volunteer
[10:44] <kgoetz> yeh. i'v been volunteering for 2 years already
[10:44] <kgoetz> i'll have to cut back when i get real work though :\
[10:45] <kgoetz> s/real/paid
[10:46] <kgoetz> i have to break that habit. its real work wether i get money or not
[10:46] <hj> yes indeed, but anyways... we must do it while we can.. (no family to take care of)
[10:47] <kgoetz> h'm
[10:47] <hj> most of my time and hobbies are currently sponsored by a media lab, located in mexico...
[10:47] <hj> restatemedia.com restatemedia.net
[10:47] <hj> i get enough money for a living, but i really need to get more income before i get old and start needed more money
[10:48] <hj> but hey... its a great way to spend time.. volunteering
[10:48] <kgoetz> brb in a few min
[10:58] <kgoetz> just making food. will be a bit longer
[11:18] <kgoetz> ffs. i needed info on that shell. it died ;(
[11:18] <kgoetz> must have been the blackout
[11:18] <hj> ?
[11:19] <kgoetz> hj: i was logged into a shell before. the host has gone down.
[11:19] <kgoetz> it only goes down when the UPS runs out.
[11:19] <hj> oooh
[11:22] <hj> i'll get a new "old laptop" just to play around with edubuntu
[11:23] <hj> or maybe i'll just go straight fwd to compile a customized liveUSB..
[11:24] <artbird309> What would be better to install for a server at school edubuntu or ubuntu it is for a 150 seats desktops?
[11:24] <kgoetz> artbird309: what age group?
[11:24] <artbird309> kgoetz: 6-12
[11:25] <kgoetz> try edubuntu
[11:25] <cbx33> hey peeps
[11:25] <hj> I read somewhere you could create quizes with some package, has anyone tried it ?
[11:25] <artbird309> kgoetz: does that have all the stuff that ubuntu server has
[11:26] <cbx33> artbird309, the base installs of both are largely similar
[11:26] <cbx33> what are you after specifically?
[11:26] <artbird309> I ldap sever with samba
[11:27] <artbird309> I think I am open for a better set-up
[12:57] <cbx33> hi ogra
[12:57] <cbx33> bye ogra
[03:41] <bddebian> Heya
[03:47] <rockprincess> hey
[03:48] <bddebian> Whoa, a Princess? :)
[03:48] <rockprincess> yep ;)
[04:00] <rockprincess> heheh ;)
[04:00] <rockprincess> sweet!
[05:37] <cbx33> hey all
[05:58] <sorl> can someone direct me on how to install a printer on a thin client?
[05:58] <sorl> (locally)
[08:18] <mm112> hello


[07:47] <evanlinjin> Hey all. Need some help here. How can I integrate SQLite into Ubuntu Phone App which has a C++ backend?
[07:48] <evanlinjin> appdevs How can I integrate SQLite into Ubuntu Phone App which has a C++ backend?
[17:01] <gerry__> hi I have written a program in java and I was thinking how to distribute it I have got myself very confused with mobile apps and normal apps ........etc?
[17:05] <gerry__> I suppose my question is where do I start I have the usual problem too much information
[18:24] <nik90> ahayzen, Hi
[18:24] <ahayzen> nik90, o/
[18:25] <nik90> ahayzen, where do I find online docs on MediaPlayer Playlist property?
[18:25] <ahayzen> in the music-app :')
[18:25] <nik90> I looked at Qt Multimedia 5.5 MediaPlayer QML, and I couldn't find that property
[18:25] <ahayzen> it is 5.6
[18:25] <nik90> ah
[18:26] <nik90> okay, so I will store my queue in localstorage and then pass that model to playlist and manage currentIndex and so on..
[18:26] <ahayzen> nik90, although something like this looks close .. https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04.1/QtMultimedia.Playlist/
[18:26] <ahayzen> nik90, just copy what we do until save() works
[18:26] <nik90> In your implementation, since you guys have Shuffle and Repeat modes, it is increasing the complexity of your implementation.
[18:26] <ahayzen> not for this bit..
[18:27] <ahayzen> nik90, you need the saveQueue() method http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/trunk/view/head:/app/components/Player.qml#L253
[18:27] <ahayzen> nik90, then just add saveQueue() to onItem{Changed,Inserted,Removed} http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/trunk/view/head:/app/components/Player.qml#L157
[18:28] <nik90> ahayzen, what's the need for pendingCurrentIndex? Do I need it as well?
[18:28] <ahayzen> that stuff is because addItem(s) is async
[18:28] <nik90> Can't I just check the currentIndex position and use that to check if there are more items in the playlist to be played?
[18:28] <nik90> hmm
[18:28] <ahayzen> so to get the setting of the currentIndex done at the correct time it has to be done *after* the first item is actually added etc
[18:29] <nik90> ok
[18:29] <ahayzen> nik90, if you want to store the currentIndex ...
[18:30] <ahayzen> nik90, that is done here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/trunk/view/head:/app/music-app.qml#L59
[18:30] <ahayzen> nik90, all the pendingCurrentIndex stuff is only for trackClicked() to work correctly
[18:31] <nik90> ok
[18:31] <ahayzen> as you can't, or when we developed it you couldn't, set the index before adding the items up to that
[18:31] <ahayzen> so if you had currentIndex=5 ... you couldn't set that until there were 5 items in the queue
[18:31] <ahayzen> and as addItem(s) is async, you have to wait for the signal to be fired
[18:32] <nik90> ah ok..
[18:32] <ahayzen> if that makes sense ?
[18:32] <ahayzen> you probably won't notice it on small queue sizes
[18:32] <nik90> Where do you guys check for the fired signal?
[18:32] <ahayzen> but when we got onto testing 100s of songs, without it weird stuff started happening
[18:32] <nik90> yeah our queues should be much smaller
[18:33] <nik90> I see processPendingCurrentState()
[18:33] <ahayzen> nik90, that is the onItemInserted .. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/trunk/view/head:/app/components/Player.qml#L137
[18:33] <nik90> ok, I think I have a basic idea of how this works. I will get a start on this for Podbird. Wish me luck :P
[18:34] <ahayzen> nik90, can you not just directly copy our Player.qml ?
[18:34] <ahayzen> or at least the Playlists part of it
[18:35] <nik90> I will copy the Playlists part of it since we do some stuff in our MediaPlayer implementation already that I need to integrate it with.
[18:35] <ahayzen> yeah if you copy that part, at least you know everything should 'work' :-)
[18:36] <nik90> yes
[18:37] <nik90> thnx for the help. this should help me get started.
[18:43] <ahayzen> no problem, ping me if you need any extra help
[22:19] <danialbehzadi> Hi there.
[22:19] <danialbehzadi> When I click on the "Run" button in Qt creator, it just says "No executable specified.", But I can run the qml file with "$ qmlscene Main.qml" in terminal. What's the problem?


[04:08] <ausimage> can someone help me rename a bzr branch on LP...
[04:08] <ausimage> I have done it before but forgot how :S
[04:10] <ausimage> k got it to change owners... good enough for now I guess
[10:06] <RenatoSilva> Can I create a "pointer" project? A project which only makes reference to the original one?
[10:09] <wgrant> RenatoSilva: What is your exact use case?
[10:09] <wgrant> Projects can have aliases set by admins.
[10:09] <RenatoSilva> wgrant: Moin wiki
[10:10] <wgrant> What is "the original one"?
[10:10] <RenatoSilva> not in lp
[10:10] <wgrant> There are lots of those.
[10:10] <RenatoSilva> I want something like this: https://launchpad.net/eclipse
[10:11] <RenatoSilva> so that I can name my branches as ~renatosilva/moin/xyz, how about it?
[10:11] <wgrant> RenatoSilva: See https://launchpad.net/moinmoin
[10:11] <wgrant> But yes, it is in general reasonable to create placeholder projects.
[10:12] <RenatoSilva> wgrant: ok, thanks!
[10:20] <leoquant> ubuntu questions is part of launchpad isn't?
[10:21] <leoquant> is this part of launchpad been moderated? And how?
[10:21] <leoquant> I had two issue's yesterday
[10:22] <leoquant> : https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+question/74704
[10:23] <leoquant> for some people it is the first impression with ubuntu, so in imho it should be moderated
[14:21] <pisecx> hi. do you plan to translate launchpad?
[14:37] <LCIDFire> Hi
[14:39] <LCIDFire> When I upload a source package to ppa and it tries to build it complains that it has no rights no execute ./autogen.sh - do I have to include a call to chmod in the debian/rules first?
[15:07] <pisecx> hi
[15:07] <pisecx> newcomer needs a help :)
[15:07] <pisecx> I have created a project, a team and set up team as a driver for the project
[15:07] <pisecx> Is that correct?
[15:08] <pisecx> I want the team members to allow to create their branches in project
[15:09] <wgrant> pisecx: Anybody can create branches in the project.
[15:09] <pisecx> ok... so why do I need a team?
[15:10] <wgrant> pisecx: To allow users extra privileges over the project, or to share a branch between multiple people.
[15:10] <pisecx> Ok, I have created a branch, it will be the main
[15:10] <pisecx> I want the users to be able to export this branch
[15:10] <pisecx> But not to commit to it
[15:11] <wgrant> Anybody can read from a non-private branch on Launchpad.
[15:11] <pisecx> I worked with vcs, but didn't work with dvcs
[15:11] <pisecx> Ok... I don't understand why do we need a team O_o
[15:12] <wgrant> If I want multiple people to be able to write to my trunk, I have to set the trunk to be owned by a team of those people.
[15:12] <pisecx> oh, now I see
[15:12] <pisecx> no, I want to control the main branch only by myself
[15:12] <wgrant> Anybody can read, but only the owner (or members of the owning team) can write.
[15:12] <pisecx> what is the driver of the project?
[15:13] <wgrant> I'm not entirely sure what the driver can do, but they get lots of administrative privileges.
[15:13] <pisecx> I see.. thanks
[15:13] <wgrant> They can set bug importance, milestone, official tags, accept blueprint targets, that sort of thing.
[15:13] <wgrant> They can add milestones, releases, download files...
[15:13] <pisecx> sounds good
[15:13] <pisecx> seems like that is what I need
[15:13] <pisecx> I just was wonderring about main brench
[15:14] <pisecx> one more question: is there any user friendly ui tool for bazaar?
[15:14] <pisecx> I want the users to be able to export main branch to their own branch, make some changes, commit
[15:14] <pisecx> etc....
[15:14] <pisecx> usual working process
[15:14] <wgrant> That would be more of a question for #bzr. I know there's TortoiseBzr for Windows, but I've never looked into GUIs myself.
[15:15] <pisecx> ok, thanks
[17:06] <xivulon> hi all I have a project and would like to spin-off some chunks into separate projects/branches, while still keeping things together in the original branch
[17:06] <xivulon> I guess I am looking for an equivalent to git submodules
[17:06] <xivulon> what would be a good strategy to do that within bzr/lp?
[19:28] <MTecknology> Simple bug, but it's probably kind of a higher priority - https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/390322


[00:13] <SECXNN> hej
[00:13] <SECXNN> hello?
[00:20] <jose_> hola!!!
[06:43] <brandonP419> hello
[06:44] <brandonP419> is anyone here
[09:52] <sofachillax> hello, how can i mount a multi device btrfs filesystem spanning multiple disks with the gnome disks utility?
[09:53] <sofachillax> is it sufficient to mount the disks by same label?
[18:14] <gnrp> sofachillax: this questiom is probably very xubuntu-unspeciic. I think elsewhere, especially in a btrfs channel, you will find better help
[18:41] <linux> ola


[15:49] <blackboxsw> falcojr: you mentioned trying to validate rpms built on centos or other rpm-based distros this morning. Have you tried using ./tools/run-container centos/8 -p or ./tools/run-container rocky/8
[16:00] <falcojr> blackboxsw: yes, I created a rocklylinux/8 one using run-container
[20:54] <gschanuel> hello there! I'm really new to using cloud-init. I'm doing some tests with vsphere but I have limited permissions. For example, I cannot use OVA and OVF yet.
[20:54] <gschanuel> So, i'm booting an Ubuntu Server 21.04 iso and added guestinfo.userdata with a base64 gziped cloud-config yaml. I get a message `waiting for cloud-init...` and after a while the ubuntu install menu is shown
[20:57] <gschanuel> If I understood correctly, the ova sets exactly the install settings (something like an autoformat iso)...
[20:57] <gschanuel> so I guess I could install the iso and manually set the cloud-init configs to search for the guestinfo.userdata afterwards, revert the `manual_cache_clean` and convert this new vm to a template. Is that assumption correct?
[23:16] <gschanuel> I basically followed this guide (but with ubuntu 21.04) https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cloud-adoption-framework/manage/hybrid/server/best-practices/vmware-ubuntu-template but before shutting down I ran `cloud-init clean && cloud-init clean -l` and before converting to a template I ran `govc -e guestinfo.userdata="${USERDATA}"` with USERDATA
[23:16] <gschanuel> being `export USERDATA=$(gzip -c9 <userdata.yaml | { base64 -w0 2>/dev/null || base64; })`
[23:16] <gschanuel> what may I be missing here?
[23:20] <gschanuel> userdata.yaml is this https://gist.github.com/d245643b4c268e05b7f5479537ed91f6


[13:53] <Teridon> not sure if appropriate for this channel, but:  trying to mirror focal repos. it has worked successfully in the past (though it's been ~ 3 months since I've tried).  Getting a GPG key error   https://dpaste.org/jpO5Z
[13:57] <tomreyn> there's #ubuntu-mirrors
[13:59] <ravage> what is the reason for that partial mirror?
[14:01] <tomreyn> btw, sks-keyservers.net is no more.
[14:01] <Teridon> wdym partial mirror?  why only the updates repo?  I'm mirroring focal, focal{-updates,-security,-backports} too, I'm just not showing that because it gives me the same errors
[14:02] <Teridon> ty tomreyn I'll try there also
[14:02] <ravage> ok. and a simple proxy with or without cache is not an alternative?
[14:03] <ravage> nginx does a pretty good job at that
[14:04] <Teridon> we are trying to freeze patch levels to keep all our systems the same.
[14:04] <ravage> uh
[14:07] <tomreyn> "trustedkeys.gpg" maybe the root issue there. read the DEPRECATION section in apt-key(8)
[14:11] <Teridon> I see that in the kinetic man pages.. but I'm on bionic.
[14:12] <Teridon> *focal, sorry
[21:32] <giu> hello
[21:56] <giu>


[01:22] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! We need some help over here. Currently the owner of the ~ubuntu-pe team is ~gcamposm, and the owner should be ~ubuntu-pe-council. We are assuming ~gcamposm is not willing to transfer the ownership, as he hasn't replied to any of our emails. Can someone please manage this?
[01:27] <JoseeAntonioR> Someone around?
[01:40] <wgrant> JoseeAntonioR: You should probably talk to the Ubuntu LoCo Council.
[01:40] <JoseeAntonioR> Oh, great. I'm speaking with one of the people in there right now. Thank you!
[21:04] <Pegasus_RPG> Hello. This LP user has been posting spam links in bug reports: https://launchpad.net/~adri-diaspereira
[21:04] <Pegasus_RPG> There's no way to report a user or to delete the comments!
[21:04] <Pegasus_RPG> What can we do?
[21:04] <jelmer> hi Pegasus_RPG
[21:04] <jelmer> Pegasus_RPG: please file a question against the launchpad project with details
[21:04] <Pegasus_RPG> okay
[21:08] <rryan> Hi -- we just got spam in a comment on one of our bugs.
[21:08] <rryan> https://launchpad.net/~adri-diaspereira
[21:08] <rryan> by that user
[21:08] <rryan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mixxx/+bug/935873
[21:08] <Pegasus_RPG> rryan: I just reported it :)
[21:08] <rryan> doh.
[21:08] <rryan> :)
[21:09] <jelmer> Pegasus_RPG, rryan: I've hidden that specific comment
[21:09] <Pegasus_RPG> jelmer: interestingly, the E-mail we got from the bug contained an empty subject
[21:09] <Pegasus_RPG> thank you
[21:11] <Pegasus_RPG> jelmer: looks like that user's account has been cracked because they posted meaningful stuff before


[02:35] <[Relic]> Anything like gwenview that can actually do a slideshow in a window?
 what about the media frame widget?
[02:48] <[Relic]> I'll play with that and see; not sure why the force full screen always with slideshow in gwenview
 anyone familar with updating the audio driver?  I have a realtek alc298 and I installed Kubuntu 19.04.  Speaker sound doesn't work, although my bluetooth audio works fine.  I came across DKMS (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/UpgradingAlsa/DKMS), but the oem-audio-hda-daily-dkms for 19.04 appears to be failling build (https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/alsa-daily/+packages).  I would really like to get my
[03:29] <[Relic]> I have to switch between two different audio outputs; clicking on the audio volume icon to find the switches.  Haven't looked into having multiple outputs at once yet.
 Hey guys! I dual boot Win7 and Kubuntu 18.04 in legacy boot. later today I will have to downgrade to Windows 10 + Kubuntu 18.04. If I understand correctly, I should better switch to UEFI for both OSses. What's you opinion on it? Should I stay on BIOS or switch to UEFI?
[10:02] <diogenes_> if you switch to UEFI make sure you backup all your data because it might require a new partition scheme and all dara erased.
 @diogenes_, Good advice. I did that of course. My reasons for asking are more technical. I have so far ignored UEFI completely but I think, now I finally have to go with the times.
 @diogenes_, Do I have to change anything on my Kubuntu (BIOS) install?
 atm, Win7 is on sda, Kubuntu and grub are on sdb.
[10:21] <diogenes_> yo will habe to wipe the drive and create a new partition table gpt and then install windows first then install kubuntu and make a /boot/efi fa32 300MB partition and you're ok.
[10:46] <mparillo> Sounds like you have done it before. Do you find that Kubuntu's support for Secure Boot just works, You need to manually sign some drivers, You need to set up an EFI password to turn off Secure Boot, or you easily turn off Secure Boot?
[12:20] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:16] <isomari> greetings, My system suddently only boots to a black screen with a cursor. I'll deal with that later but for now I need to work but startx from cli goes to gnome which I hate. How ca I make startx boot to plasma?
[14:24] <Federico> Hi everyone, I'm experiencing plasmashell crashes upon opening any browser, I tried chromium and firefox
[14:35] <FedericoHP> Hi, is there anyone who can help me with a bug related to plasmashell?
[15:04] <isomari> greetings how can i reinstall plasma?
[15:08] <BluesKaj> kubuntu-desktop
[15:09] <BluesKaj> isomari, and plasma-workspace to make sure
[15:11] <isomari> BluesKaj: thanks. My system suddendly stays on the login screen.
[15:12] <BluesKaj> isomari, if you have another desktop like gnome installed then you can choose which one to load in the dropdown
[15:13] <isomari> BluesKaj: gnome? I'd rather chew nails.
[15:23] <isomari> how can I make startx boot to plasma instead of gnome?
[17:37] <aiena> I am having trouble with xsane and gimp I feel it may have something to do with ppa's I get errors like 'gimp: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgimpcolor-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: gegl_scratch_alloc'
[17:37] <aiena> how do I disable the ppa's and downgrade to system packages?
[17:38] <genii> !ppa-purge
[17:40] <aiena> hmm how do I list repos with just apt
[17:40] <aiena> i need to use a cli tool so that synaptic doesnt lock the repos
[17:49] <aiena> Hmm system really messed up I think I'll just format it
[18:02] <aiena> I did a lot of distro upgrades and that probably messed it up
[22:03] <jordan_> Hi I have a gigabit swich and cat 6 short cables between gigbit nas and gigabit PCmy performace is 43 MiB/s any idea what is wrong with me?


[16:46] <trijntje> I have a problem with wifi lagging and disconnecting on ubuntu 15.10 and 16.04, but not 14.04. How do I file a bug for wifi problems, against which package should I file it?
[20:19] <cristian_c> hello
[20:22] <cristian_c> a year and a half ago, I reported a bug related to mozplugger, in launchpad
[20:22] <cristian_c> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozplugger/+bug/1399944
[20:22] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1399944 in mozplugger (Ubuntu) "Navigation keys not working inside browsers" [Undecided,New]
[20:23] <cristian_c> now, this bug exists yet (wily werewolf)
[20:24] <cristian_c> What's the next step in the bug report process?
[22:14] <cristian_c> another question:
[22:15] <cristian_c> a year ago, I subscribed a bug related to conky, in launchpad
[22:16] <cristian_c> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/conky/+bug/1226277
[22:16] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1226277 in conky (Ubuntu) "window_type desktop disappears when the desktop is clicked" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[22:16] <nacc> cristian_c: sorry, was mis-tab-completing here and thought you had left; it seems like upstream doesn't have a proper fix to your bug yet?
[22:16] <cristian_c> nacc: I don't know
[22:16] <cristian_c> nobody has written in that report anymore
[22:17] <cristian_c> *into
[22:17] <nacc> cristian_c: just meant that it's unlikely to be fixed in Ubuntu if upstream says it's not fixed (I went and looked at the upstream reports referred to in the bug)
[22:17] <cristian_c> btw, some question for conky bug report, too
[22:18] <cristian_c> nacc: mozplugger bug?
[22:18] <cristian_c> either conky bug?
[22:18] <nacc> cristian_c: above was for mozplugger
[22:18] <cristian_c> ok
[22:19] <nacc> https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=22723
[22:19] <ubot5`> www.mozdev.org bug 22723 in Plugins "keystrokes don't reach swallowed windows" [Normal,New]
[22:19] <nacc> https://www.mozdev.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=22359
[22:19] <ubot5`> www.mozdev.org bug 22359 in Plugins "kpdf and okular doesn't work well in embedded window." [Normal,New]
[22:19] <nacc> c13 in the second one implies there is no fix
[22:19] <nacc> and to not use the "swallow" flag?
[22:20] <cristian_c> nacc: ' karmic has seen the end of its life and is no longer receiving any updates. Marking the karmic task for this ticket as "Won't Fix".'
[22:21] <cristian_c> so, bug report referrred was closed because karmic cycle was finished
[22:21] <cristian_c> ah, ok, mozdev upstream, sorry
[22:21] <nacc> cristian_c: yeah, sorry, mozdev itself says not fixed; ack on the karmic closure
[22:21] <nacc> chrisccoulson: not sure if the lucid closure was correct or not
[22:21] <cristian_c> nacc: ok, thanks for the links :)
[22:22] <nacc> cristian_c: np, they were from the older bug report, fyi
[22:22] <nacc> cristian_c: is it all possible for you to see if 16.04 has the same conky issue? in a VM or something?
[22:23] <cristian_c> nacc: true, one of them was linked by alessiotreglia :)
[22:23] <cristian_c> sorry
[22:23] <nacc> cristian_c: not a problem
[22:23] <cristian_c> nacc: I'll try the conky issue in a real installation :)
[22:23] <cristian_c> (16.04)
[22:24] <cristian_c> I'll wait the end of april, btw
[22:24] <nacc> cristian_c: sure, it's at a new version in 16.04 so it will be helpful to konw if it's just a backport or if it's an upstream bug
[22:24] <cristian_c> when xenial will be officially released
[22:24] <nacc> 21st, i think
[22:25] <cristian_c> nacc: ok, if the bug persists also in xenial, I'll update the bug report
[22:25] <nacc> cristian_c: thanks!
[22:25] <cristian_c> :)
[22:25] <cristian_c> thanks to you, too
[22:25] <nacc> cristian_c: np, sorry for the long delay on my part, again
[22:26] <cristian_c> no problem
[22:26] <cristian_c> thanks for your support ;)