[16:48] <OerHeks> bpat1434, yes, the fix is @ 3 " SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="0a:03:27:c2:b4:eb", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" >> change NAME="eth255" i guess >   http://www.serenux.com/2009/11/howto-fix-a-missing-eth0-adapter-after-moving-ubuntu-server-from-one-box-to-another/
[16:48] <LinXNut> yea ekz type "lspic -v" and see what "drivers are in use"
[16:49] <mirantistcr> System 76 doesn't seem to have their own forums.
[16:49] <LinXNut> @ekz in the terminal
[16:49] <luigi69> DeltaHeavy - I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/198927/what-color-format-gnome-terminal-color-pallete-use
[16:49] <OerHeks> bpat1434, the solution is that fix reversed
[16:49] <DeltaHeavy> Cools
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> mirantistcr, Ah, I was not sure if there was a help via email..etc, but yeaj here is cool.
[16:49] <DeltaHeavy> If anybody cares to read/respond to my query about the password hashes in the forum, it would be appreciated - http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1iyro6/are_the_ubuntu_forums_leaked_password_hashes_only/
[16:49] <wilee-nilee> yeah*
[16:50] <OerHeks> DeltaHeavy, please don't spam, join #ubuntuforums for discussion
[16:50] <mirantistcr> wilee-nilee, they do have email support, but I figured I'd check here first.
[16:50] <DeltaHeavy> OerHeks: They don't want to hear any critisism
[16:50] <wilee-nilee> mirantistcr, Cool, may be faster. ;)
[16:50] <mirantistcr> wilee-nilee, that's exactly what I was thinking :)
[16:51] <ekz> hello again LinXNut
[16:51] <ekz> indeed i think the nouveau module is active.
[16:51] <LinXNut> Hey did you find ohhh ok
[16:52] <ekz> 	Kernel modules: nvidia_173, nvidia_current, nouveau, nvidiafb
[16:52] <LinXNut> Thats perfect then thats all you need
[16:52] <LinXNut> Is it still glitchy?
[16:52] <xtrez>  i can't find byacc, flex, gawk or bison in ubuntu software center but they can be downloaded from terminal using sudo apt-get install.?
[16:52] <xtrez> pls help me guys, no one here know this ??
[16:52] <ekz> yup it gets very glitchy and also some times tells the system has crashed bla blah
[16:53] <LinXNut> Oh wow...ummm. What type of processor do you have?
[16:53] <LinXNut> xtrez why not just download from the terminal? :o
[16:53] <DJones> xtrez: I can see all three of those in Software centre
[16:54] <wilee-nilee> xtrez, You are not looking correctly, and quit repeating.
[16:54] <xtrez> LinXNut, it's possible that i might not know the name of all the software..
[16:54] <xtrez> DJones, but i can't see all those 3 in software center.
[16:54] <ekz> LinXNut, its  Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 (2.4GHz)
[16:54] <dagerik> xiudo: the software center is a front end to apt-get. just use use apt-get install <software>
[16:55] <dagerik> xiudo: apt-cache search <term> to search
[16:55] <irreverant> i need to know another linux distro that’s simple, possibly light, gui and has gparted available that comes in a livecd
[16:55] <xtrez> wilee-nilee, i am looking it carefull really i can't find them.
[16:55] <irreverant> ubuntu live won’t load on this win 7 box
[16:55] <mumpitze1> xtrez: apt-cache search yacc
[16:55] <OerHeks> xtrez, they are not in the repo's afaik > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7320370/installation-of-flex-and-bison-in-ubuntu
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> irreverant  win7 has nothing to do with it
[16:55] <irreverant> well it’s a dell box
[16:55] <mumpitze1> irreverant: why are you asking this in #ubuntu then? I suggest ##linux. gparted has its own livecd
[16:56] <LinXNut> ekz: are you using any compositing manager? Like compiz or visual effects?
[16:56] <DJones> !info flex
[16:56] <xtrez> mumpitze1, it dislpays all the requried software that way, but they are not visible in software center.
[16:56] <mumpitze1> OerHeks: of course they are http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bison&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all
[16:57] <ekz> mmm im using cairo dock, and the regular sidebar from ubuntu
[16:57] <OerHeks> xtrez, install synaptics for detailed packagelists.
[16:57] <luigi69> How could I have 16 colors pallete in gnome-terminal (8 base colros + 16 bright colors)? By default I have the bright colors used for bold instead.
[16:57] <LinXNut> ekz: maybe turn off cairo dock and see how it operates?
[16:58] <luigi69> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6419178/colortest.png
[16:58] <ekz> it works the same! ... im using it now cairo-dock without open gl
[16:58] <LinXNut> Your graphics card is similar to mine, it shouldn't be lagging at all
[16:59] <DJones> !screenshot | xtrez Can you take a screenshot of software centre when you search for bison and upload it to imagebin so that we can see what you're seeing
[16:59] <xtrez> DJones, just a sec
[16:59] <xtrez> OerHeks, can't find synaptics
[16:59] <farbod> hi
[17:00] <LinXNut> ekz: Do you mean when you open things its slow or just the graphics is lagging?
[17:00] <mirantistcr> wilee-nilee, this is what I have for audio in DMESG: [    2.877980] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:03.0: irq 48 for MSI/MSI-X
[17:00] <mirantistcr> [    2.882583] EXT4-fs (sda2): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[17:00] <mirantistcr> [    2.889685] input: HDA Intel MID HDMI/DP,pcm=8 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.0/sound/card0/input6
[17:00] <mirantistcr> [    2.892423] input: HDA Intel MID HDMI/DP,pcm=7 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.0/sound/card0/input7
[17:00] <mirantistcr> [    2.892728] input: HDA Intel MID HDMI/DP,pcm=3 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.0/sound/card0/input8
[17:00] <mirantistcr> [    2.893869] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1b.0: irq 49 for MSI/MSI-X
[17:00] <FloodBot1> mirantistcr: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:00] <ekz> i know it used to work better with previous ubuntu but now i dont know whats going on
[17:00] <wilee-nilee> mirantistcr, I would not have any idea.
[17:01] <LinXNut> maybe disable the nvidia_current, and nvidia drivers. Leave the Noveau
[17:01] <mirantistcr> wilee-nilee, thanks. I'll post to general.
[17:01] <LinXNut> If its better, it should be okay.
[17:01] <xtrez> DJones, no after doing sudo apt-get update and restarting my machine, they all are visible in software center
[17:02] <DJones> xtrez: Ah well, problem solved
[17:02] <xtrez> DJones, :)
[17:02] <xtrez> DJones, synaptic no longer there in ubuntu ?
[17:03] <mirantistcr> Hello all. I'm having an issue where there is some static in my audio. The audio part of dmesg is here - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5908233/
[17:03] <wilee-nilee> mirantistcr, Cool, I assume that is probably a tough problem, could be any number of variables.
[17:03] <DJones> xtrez: Not by default, software centre is installed by default instead, but you can install synaptic
[17:04] <mirantistcr> wilee-nilee, I would think that System 76 would have that working since they are a Linux integrator :P
[17:04] <ekz> LinXNut, basicly when i open lets say staroffice it just slows down the pc and also glitches  and lags on graphis
[17:04] <ekz> graphics
[17:04] <mirantistcr> wilee-nilee, it's a bit frustrating :D
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> mirantistcr, It would be yes, however I have never seen another with this problem, but I don't follow there threads.
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> their*
[17:06] <xtrez> DJones, done :)
[17:06] <ekz> by the way ppl what happened to ubuntu forums? they were hacked the 20th? so bad :(
[17:07] <Nach0z> ayup
[17:07] <mirantistcr> Yeah. They're still down, too.
[17:07] <gabriella> #ubuntu-it
[17:08] <ekz> does anyone knows about ISO27000??
[17:08] <ufk> how do i start jpda in tomcat ?
[17:08] <joy_frey> hey, support team here?
[17:08] <wilee-nilee> joy_frey, one big support family.
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[17:09] <wilee-nilee> joy_frey, There are channels for specific support some are dev.
[17:10] <joy_frey> wilee-nilee,  ok ) then i need head of screen saver aplication
[17:11] <wilee-nilee> joy_frey, Not sure there it is not on stock.
[17:11] <toss1> i hab grub rescue problem in ubuntu and i formatted drive having ubuntu even window is not opening i m from live usb and it shows error filesystem grub rescue
[17:11] <toss1> plse help me
[17:11] <ekz> LinXNut,  any recomendations to disable something or to improve my linux experience???
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> toss1, This a W8 dual boot a lot more details please for the channel.
[17:13] <joy_frey> work to forum ..
[17:13] <toss1> wilee-nilee i didnt get what u mean
[17:13] <toss1> yea it is the case of win8 dual boot
[17:13] <ekz> any software were you could create a windows USB installation Disk using an iso??? under ubuntu?
[17:14] <wilee-nilee> toss1, This app is a good repair gui, however it is best to just run the bootinfo summary to post for help, this will give a lot of details. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[17:14] <holstein> ekz: i would ask a windows support channel, and try http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html
[17:15] <luigi69> How could I setup the 0-7 bold colors to be have same colors like norm 0-7? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6419178/colortest.png
[17:15] <wilee-nilee> toss1, I have to take off for physical rehab but will be back in a couple of hours if you still need help.
[17:15] <zAo^_> Is there a way to speed up scrolling in Xorg/Gnome3? tried xinput, but no luck
[17:15] <toss1> ok buddie
[17:15] <holstein> zAo^_: scrolling in some web browser? you could try configuring the browser scroll speed
[17:15] <ekz> ok i would ask again, is there a way to create USB INSTALATION DISKs from any ISO? ...
[17:16] <zAo^_> holstein: chromium; but they removed that option!
[17:16] <zAo^_> I used to start with --scrol-pixels=400
[17:16] <holstein> ekz: let me link you again to http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/tool-to-create-windows-usb-install.html and ##windows .. or unetbootin for *any* usb stick from most linux iso's
[17:16] <holstein> !unetbootin
[17:17] <ekz> just saw the link , thank you by the way ill try to use it ! buig hug !
[17:22] <prashant_123456> when will ubuntu forums will resume to its state ?
[17:23] <DeltaHeavy> prashant_123456: They're unsure. Anyway you may be interested in this - http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1iyro6/are_the_ubuntu_forums_leaked_password_hashes_only/
[17:23] <DeltaHeavy> Change any passwords that were the same as your Ubuntu forums as they might as well have been in plain text.
[17:25] <prashant_123456> DeltaHeavy, approx how much time will it take to resume ?
[17:25] <savid> It appears network manager just went crazy on my system. I lost internet connectivity, and noticed a lot of inet traffic in my system monitor. I used jnettop to show what was hogging it, and something was flooding my DNS server with UDP packets on port 53. Eventually I found out it was the dnsmasq program doing it.  What would cause this to happen?
[17:25] <savid> I've since disabled network manager and went to manual configuration
[17:26] <DJones> Gues88604: Please fix your connection
[17:26] <DeltaHeavy> prashant_123456: Don't know, only got snippy responses from #ubuntuforums
[17:26] <k1l_> prashant_123456: #ubuntuforums is the right place for that topic
[17:26] <DeltaHeavy> Assuming they're willing to help you
[17:26] <prashant_123456> k1l_,  thanks
[17:29] <savid> If my computer was spitting out tons of packets on UDP port 53, would that mean my computer is performing a DOS attack?
[17:29] <savid> (ie, it's been compromised)?
[17:30] <DeltaHeavy> savid: Probably not, port 53 is for DNS
[17:30] <savid> DeltaHeavy, hmm.  ok.
[17:30] <awktion> lol
[17:30] <savid> I'm not sure what happened then
[17:30] <awktion> do you have dnsutils installed?
[17:30] <awktion> ps fauxww|grep bind
[17:31] <Kunal> sudo: unable to create sockets: Cannot allocate memory
[17:31] <Kunal>  , what should i do?
[17:31] <savid> awktion, no
[17:31] <k1l_> Kunal: which command?
[17:31] <awktion> savid: http://pastebin.com/gL33WGr9
[17:31] <awktion> ah
[17:31] <awktion> then there must have been a flurry of lookups
[17:31] <Kunal> sudo mkdir -p /etc/vncserver
[17:32] <awktion> many webpages have hundreds of elements, and good sites split this up amongst several cnames
[17:32] <awktion> One thing you can do is setup bind, run it, and basically use it as your own personal dns cache
[17:32] <savid> awktion, ah, that's a great idea.
[17:32] <awktion> then you can setup logging, and see what was looked up when
[17:32] <streulma> hello, someone familliar with grub ?
[17:33] <awktion> add in some blocklists if your bored
[17:33] <awktion> etc
[17:33] <awktion> hf
[17:33] <varunendra> !ask | streulma
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> !details | streulma
[17:33] <savid> I will definitely do that.  Thanks!
[17:34] <k1l_> Kunal: no need for -p (but why are you making that in anyway? just installing vnc should do that on its own)
[17:35] <streulma> I have a virtualserver runs under KVM and in grub there is root hd0;0 and /dev/vda1, when I update kernel or remove menu.lst and redo update-grub then I have /dev/hd0 as root and UUID as dev
[17:35] <Kunal> after rebooting i have to start vcn server through ssh to log in using tightvnc
[17:35] <dubhdara> anyone here good with ubuntu on a mac
[17:36] <antivirtel> hello, can someone answer to my question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/323509/lenovo-e525-lock-button-as-a-hotkey ? thanks!
[17:36] <streulma> dubhdara: yes
[17:36] <dubhdara> ah okay
[17:36] <wilee-nilee> !anyone
[17:37] <wilee-nilee> dubhdara, streulma ^^^^^
[17:38] <dubhdara> the install cd don't on ubnuntu 12.10 don't like the graphics on the mac g4 its the ati128 card
[17:38] <sudobash> wow it really saddens me to find Ubuntu 11/12/13 as completely unusable from Live cd / dvd on a brand new lenovo i3 with 4 GB of ddr3 as it is freezing up and becoming unresponsive every few minutes... What's happened to Ubuntu, please tell me?
[17:38] <k1l_> Kunal: does it work without -p?
[17:38] <dubhdara> is there some way i can configure graphics at the boot uping]
[17:39] <Kunal> nope
[17:39] <DeltaHeavy> sudobash: Perhaps your hardware isn't fully supported. They work fine for me.
[17:39] <zAo^_> Is there no way to alter the scroll speed??
[17:39] <awktion> dubhdara:
[17:39] <dubhdara> okay next then
[17:39] <awktion> whenever you run into issues like that, use the alternate
[17:39] <sudobash> maybe the WM that ubuntu has chosen sucks ass?
[17:39] <awktion> the alternate disk typically dumps the live portion and adds in more drivers
[17:39] <dubhdara> hold on i used the min alternate
[17:40] <sudobash> if I stay in CLI it works fine :-|
[17:40] <wilee-nilee> sudobash, your experience in no way represents any body else, don't lump others, or use it as a opinion which sounds like fud.
[17:40] <dubhdara> but it just gave me a text screen when i boot up
[17:40] <sudobash> Sorry, just been using ubuntu stil 6.04 and I find the newer versions to be crap
[17:40] <dubhdara> how do i tell it at terminal that i wanna install gnome
[17:40] <sudobash> as thousands of others have as well no doubt
[17:40] <Kunal>  plus when i try to run an application it says 'starting <application name>' but it doesnt starts
[17:40] <Kunal> using vpn*
[17:40] <Catbuntu> Hello hallo; if you install `xubuntu-desktop` in a normal Ubuntu 13.04, will it be slower than a normal Xubuntu installation?
[17:41] <awktion> Catbuntu: xubuntu install and xubuntu-desktop install are perported to be the same
[17:41] <[Raiden]> Catbuntu: no
[17:41] <awktion> in reality there's a few extra config bits that get done by the distro installer
[17:41] <awktion> so yes
[17:41] <awktion> do two side by side and they will NOT be the same
[17:42] <awktion> but very close, and i think the packages should be pretty close
[17:42] <ekz> hello could anyone tell me if linux has a mobile version???????
[17:42] <awktion> ekz: yes/no
[17:42] <awktion> both
[17:42] <ekz> ¿?
[17:42] <awktion> there are mobile versions, most are not very mature
[17:42] <dubhdara> so what do i do about getting a graphical environment
[17:42] <awktion> for cell phones, there's ubuntu on arm, but its not really very useful
[17:42] <cielak> how about android?
[17:42] <k1l_> Kunal: is your server out of ram?
[17:42] <awktion> dubhdara: i'd just install that xubuntu desktop package
[17:43] <streulma> I run Ubuntu on my Galaxy S3 :)
[17:43] <dubhdara> would that put gnome on it
[17:43] <k1l_> Kunal: is it a virtual server?
[17:43] <ekz> hows the performance? ..
[17:43] <ekz> what version are you running?
[17:43] <Kunal> kinda , actualy it is a free vps i got from host1free
[17:43] <awktion> streulma: and you run android right
[17:43] <streulma> awktion: yes
[17:43] <awktion> thats not the same, its a /vm/chrooted linux
[17:43] <Kunal> 128 mb ram :P
[17:43] <dubhdara> 12.10
[17:43] <awktion> you get into it via vlc, very crap
[17:43] <k1l_> !touch | ekz
[17:44] <wilee-nilee> ekz, You want the #ubuntu-touch channel otherwise your off topic.
[17:44] <sudobash> dubhdara, yes it will probably get you a graphicial environment
[17:44] <awktion> ubuntu for arm is first party install, meaning direct hardware access and IS the os
[17:44] <dubhdara> that is the video card
[17:44] <dubhdara> memory
[17:44] <k1l_> Kunal: you are overpowering that vps
[17:44] <ekz> thank you very much my friend
[17:44] <Kunal> hmm..
[17:44] <dubhdara> the mac has lots more memory chips on it
[17:44] <dubhdara> its pretty fast
[17:44] <Kunal> so nothing can be done?
[17:44] <k1l_> Kunal: its using more ram than its got. so dont start a desktop there. that will not work
[17:44] <awktion> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[17:44] <k1l_> Kunal: use ssh instead of starting a desktop and using vnc
[17:45] <Kunal> ohk
[17:45] <Kunal> thx
[17:45] <Catbuntu> I know [Raiden] and awktion, but that would be having everything of Unity AND Xfce, not only Xfce, so it would be slower?
[17:45] <Catbuntu> Or there's no conflict between Unity and Xfce?
[17:45] <yugandhar> Hi, I need quick help. I couldn't ssh the server even it is pinging. I am getting the error while removing the openssh-server package "E: The package nginx-johndoe needs to be reinstalled"
[17:46] <yugandhar> pls help me
[17:46] <yugandhar> on this
[17:46] <dubhdara> apt-get install pack name
[17:46] <dubhdara> at a terminal prompt
[17:46] <Pici> yugandhar: why are you removing openssh-server?
[17:46] <ekz> hello streulma can you tell me how is it the performance are you running ubuntu?
[17:47] <wizard_A> http://askubuntu.com/questions/126545/i-would-like-to-make-a-virtual-router-on-ubuntu-12-04: gives some errors
[17:47] <awktion> Catbuntu: they can exist side by side but it sux
[17:47] <yugandhar> openssh-server is not running on this server
[17:47] <awktion> you'll have a lot of doubled and tripled options
[17:47] <k1l_> ekz: can we sort that into #ubuntu-touch or #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[17:47] <awktion> and no its not as fast
[17:47] <ekz> great thnkx
[17:47] <wilee-nilee> !help > yugandhar
[17:47] <awktion> http://askubuntu.com/questions/292394/how-to-completely-remove-unity-and-replace-it-with-cinnamon
[17:47] <awktion> there's one example of removing unity and putting in cinnamon
[17:47] <awktion> you could put in the dwm of your choice
[17:48] <Catbuntu> What sucks awktion?
[17:48] <k1l_> Catbuntu: there is no reason for that to be slower
[17:48] <k1l_> Catbuntu: you can switch the desktops when selecting on the login screen
[17:48] <awktion> having xfce and /gnome/unity/kde/whatever side by side
[17:48] <Catbuntu> I know k1l_
[17:48] <awktion> the -desktop packages are meta, so they pull in a whole env
[17:49] <awktion> like text editor, browser, file managers, everything
[17:49] <Catbuntu> I remember having kubuntu- and xubuntu-desktop in a normal Ubuntu install a year ago or so and yes it sucked that's true.
[17:49] <awktion> yeah
[17:49] <k1l_> awktion: but things that dont get loaded because they are not needed dont slow anything down
[17:49] <awktion> i would multiboot
[17:49] <Catbuntu> But IIRC there's something you can do in the .desktop files to make them show in just one environment.
[17:49] <k1l_> :/
[17:49] <awktion> k1l_: that just shows youve not had it done
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> awktion, Removing unity is a waste of time The cinnamon install is just a few packages they share gnome 3.
[17:49] <awktion> it does make a difference
[17:49] <awktion> wilee-nilee: ah right, was a fast link
[17:49] <k1l_> awktion: no
[17:49] <awktion> not sure if anyone made a comprehensive list
[17:50] <k1l_> you are not right on that
[17:50] <awktion> k1l_: sorry bro but you really don't know what your talking about.
[17:50] <Pici> awktion: No it doesn't. Please stop spreading FUD
[17:50] <awktion> as evidenced by what's coming out of your irc client.
[17:50] <reisio> Catbuntu: uninstalling the other ones being the simplest way
[17:50] <awktion> its not fud Pici go do some benchmarks
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> awktion, the psychocats website has desktop lists
[17:50] <ekz> what would be the best basic startup configurations for ubuntu? how can i check whats running for startup and change it?
[17:50] <awktion> ~_~
[17:50] <k1l_> awktion: you are talking wrong and i already explained why. so stop that
[17:50] <reisio> ekz: 'service' command maybe
[17:50] <DeltaHeavy> awktion: You are wrong...
[17:51] <awktion> there is most certainly a difference between having 2-3GB of installed packages and 4-5GB
[17:51] <awktion> this is why there are so many minimal installs
[17:51] <awktion> BECAUSE of the differences
[17:51] <DeltaHeavy> Cinnamon and Unity use a lot of the same packages.
[17:51] <awktion> now, there's no issue having multiple window managers
[17:51] <reisio> mostly the space those package take up on the storage device, though
[17:51] <awktion> just don't bother with the whole environments
[17:51] <DeltaHeavy> Removing Unity from Ubuntu is going to cause you more headaches than it's worth.
[17:51] <awktion> no need for kate + gedit + mouse
[17:51] <k1l_> awktion: stuff that is not needed by xubuntu-desktop doesnt get loaded when xubuntu is booted. so stop that FUD. EOD
[17:52] <awktion> again k1l_ the existance of those files on disk makes a difference
[17:52] <awktion> AND
[17:52] <DeltaHeavy> awktion: Files existing on a disk doesn't result in a performance hit.
[17:52] <awktion> there are several daemons started by each DWM that are unique
[17:52] <awktion> yes
[17:52] <awktion> yes it most certainly does
[17:52] <awktion> MOST CERTIANLY
[17:52] <Pici> awktion: how?
[17:52] <DeltaHeavy> awktion: Everybody is telling you, you're wrong. Stop being so brash and stubborn.
[17:53] <Lizards|Work> hdd vs ssd he may have a point
[17:53] <k1l_> to clear that up. just having files on your hdds that are not used doesnt slow anything down.
[17:53] <Lizards|Work> but if it's ssd it's moot
[17:53] <DeltaHeavy> On an HDD there is a marginal, unnoticeable hit that shouldn't even be considered.
[17:53] <Lizards|Work> not nonexistent though
[17:53] <ekz> is there a gui where you can click or unclick the services for startup???
[17:54] <reisio> there's probably one you can get
[17:54] <Catbuntu> Should Unity 7 (in Ubuntu 13.04) work well in a computer with a Nvidia 9300M GS graphics card and 3GB of RAM?
[17:54] <varunendra> ekz, Power button > Startup Applications.... in Unity on my 12.04
[17:54] <reisio> Catbuntu: most likely, you might check if the nvidia driver supports that specific model first
[17:54] <Catbuntu> Weird thing is that the sticker in the computer says it's an Intel Centrino, but if I look it up using software (even in Windows) it says Intel Core 2 Duo.
[17:54] <dubhdara1> in the tasksel
[17:54] <Catbuntu> It's 2GHz anyway.
[17:54] <dubhdara1> it give many different
[17:54] <dubhdara1> sets
[17:54] <Catbuntu> Yep it does reisio.
[17:54] <reisio> Catbuntu: well, centrino is a buzzword/branding for more than just a processor
[17:55] <dubhdara1> which should i install for the graphical enviro
[17:55] <reisio> and intel's always been awful at naming things
[17:55] <dubhdara1> you said xunbuntu - destop
[17:55] <dubhdara1> right
[17:55] <Catbuntu> Oh I see.
[17:55] <nirjhor> hello
[17:55] <nirjhor> I have installed handbrake from ppa
[17:55] <reisio> nirjhor: hi
[17:55] <nirjhor> but how can I launch it from command line?
[17:56] <reisio> nirjhor: dpkg -L handbrake | grep bin
[17:56] <Catbuntu> Well I'm going to try Ubuntu 13.04 again :P
[17:56] <nirjhor> handbrake-gtk doesn't run anything
[17:56] <reisio> but if you want commandline, install ffmpeg instead
[17:56] <varunendra> ekz, but the services are hidden by default. You will have to edit relevant .desktop files in /etc/xdg/autostart directory for corresponding services/applications
[17:56] <Catbuntu> See you all later ♥
[17:56] <reisio> peace
[17:56] <Pici> nirjhor: theres a handbrake-cli binary, but you'll need to make sure that you've installed it.
[17:57] <nirjhor> reisio: thanks man
[17:58] <niranjan> Hi there, I am seeing following messages duplicated every second Jul 24 10:54:42 fiport2 kernel: [2485180.682995] input: Logitech USB Optical Mouse as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:12.0/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/input/input40167
[17:58] <niranjan> Jul 24 10:54:42 fiport2 kernel: [2485180.683239] generic-usb 0003:046D:C05A.9CE3: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech USB Optical Mouse] on usb-0000:00:12.0-2/input0
[17:58] <nirjhor> reisio: it solved the problem
[17:58] <niranjan> What is causing it?
[17:59] <ekz> its just like user application, how could you modify the linux startup services like the main boot, cause i think theres something slowingdown my installation
[18:00] <Lizards|Work> superkey -> Startup Applications
[18:02] <Guest57332> привет
[18:03] <tvviztid> I had Lubuntu installed to a 120GB HDD. I put FreeDOS and the computer's last BIOS update onto a 1.44 Floppy and upgraded with no issue, but now I keep getting hung on the BIOS now(I've battery pulled to reset multiple times). The drive works perfectly on another machine I have here. I've tried every Master/Slave combo there is possible.  Any suggestions?
[18:04] <tvviztid> IDE HDD
[18:05] <tvviztid> I have also tried other hard drives but very rarely will they get identified.
[18:07] <joshu> ikonia ping
[18:08] <ikonia> joshu: hello
[18:08] <Lizards|Work> tvviztid, try an alternate IDE cable?
[18:08] <tvviztid> Yes.
[18:09] <reisio> FloodBot1: you go girl
[18:10] <vaurdan> hey
[18:10] <tvviztid> It is an old Gateway E-4000. They are very annoying to identify. Took me quite a while to find my correct model and search the deep ends of Google to get the last BIOS.
[18:10] <vaurdan> do you know why notifications sounds on skype always sound so crancky?
[18:11] <Lizards|Work> you're 100% you got a good flash on the BIOS?
[18:12] <tvviztid> Yes. Not long after I did it I booted FreeDOS live cd/Lubuntu/ and a few other Lightweight CDs I had laying around.
[18:12] <Lizards|Work> is the hdd set to bootable in BIOS?
[18:12] <tvviztid> I even flashed it again to make sure it. When it does want to boot I have it boot from a LiveUSB of Lubuntu.
[18:12] <tvviztid> I can't access the BIOS, it hangs on startup.
[18:13] <tvviztid> I've tried having everything unplugged but the HDD and still the same.
[18:13] <Lizards|Work> it's not like it bypasses BIOS when it boots a live os
[18:14] <toss1> hi, i had dual boot but due to error in kernel compiling i formatted the drive containing ubuntu and not i hab grub rescue problem plse help
[18:14] <tvviztid> I'm starting to think it was just a poor brand of Gateway machines.
[18:14] <tvviztid> Use to be my father's work computer.
[18:14] <toss1> how can i remove grub and iwindows nstall loader using live ubuntu in usb
[18:15] <toss1>  hi, i had dual boot but due to error in kernel compiling i formatted the drive containing ubuntu and not i hab grub rescue problem plse help
[18:18] <tvviztid> I'll just bang it around for a bit hope it works. Thanks.
[18:18] <Lizards|Work> good luck
[18:19] <voila> hello
[18:19] <voila> I tar one directory .. when I untar it using tar-xvf .. then it left inner direcotries tar ..
[18:19] <voila> how do i solve it
[18:20] <toss1> hi, i had dual boot but due to error in kernel compiling i formatted the drive containing ubuntu and not i hab grub rescue problem plse help how  to uninstall using live usb ubuntu
[18:20] <reisio> voila: hrmm?
[18:20] <voila> hrmm ???
[18:20] <voila> no idea about this
[18:20] <reisio> voila: are you asking how to make a tar with a top-level directory in it, rather than just loose contents?
[18:21] <Morgan_Freeman> http://imgur.com/gallery/CEuO5e7  Haunted Forest?
[18:22] <reisio> pretty
[18:22] <ikonia> Morgan_Freeman: ow is that anything to do with ubuntu ?
[18:22] <ikonia> although I do agree it's pretty
[18:22] <Morgan_Freeman> my mistake
[18:22] <Morgan_Freeman>  /amsg
[18:22] <voila> reisio,  My motive is to transfer directory using scp .. I tar it and transfer ... when i untar it using tar -xvf .. then i found it untar only top level directory .. all inner level directory are still tar-ed
[18:23] <ikonia> Morgan_Freeman: no problem
[18:23] <reisio> voila: sounds like you tar'd it oddly in the first place
[18:23] <reisio> voila: you don't have to tar to scp, either
[18:24] <voila> reisio, I cannot transfer folder through scp or can i ?
[18:24] <reisio> voila: yes, with -r
[18:24] <reisio> or more reliably with rsync, or rsync+ssh if you prefer
[18:24] <voila> okies .. let me try
[18:27] <nimdAHK> where does identd insert itself so that it runs on startup?
[18:29] <vaurdan> do you know why notifications sounds and login sound on skype is noisy?
[18:29] <SuperLag> I'm from Oregon, but I'm in NL for a month. Should the timezone on my system adjust automatically by the location, or do I have to change it manually? And will changing that have any side effects on the rest of the system?
[18:29] <reisio> your PCM is too high
[18:29] <reisio> SuperLag: manually probably, yes it'll give the correct time
[18:30] <reisio> SuperLag: you could also just setup ntp, and the time will correct itself automatically and you won't have to mess with the timezone
[18:30] <reisio> but for long stays in other timezones, may as well just change it
[18:32] <SuperLag> done
[18:34] <arc__> hi is there any visualisation programs in ubuntu execpt virual box
[18:34] <ikonia> kvm, xen
[18:34] <arc__> what
[18:36] <sssd> hey guys, i have a problem with unity, directly after PC-Start i can't click on any Icon, with ctrl + alt + f1 and ctrl+alt+f7 helps temporarily  but i can't after this Work-Arround a can't open the Unity-Dash :(
[18:36] <sssd> Now i have try'd to use booth propritary videocard-drivers, but without changes :(
[18:37] <lauratika> im trying to install ubuntu on a sd card, how can i run the iso image form a pc to get it install on the card?
[18:38] <benjamindees> is it safe to assume that NetworkManager is the program responsible for scuttling my wi-fi speed down to 1Mb, or might it be something else?
[18:38] <Lizards|Work> could be on the router
[18:40] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Anyone on?
[18:40] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I'm about to install Ubuntu.
[18:40] <reisio> benjamindees: probably something else, but you can get wifi without it and see
[18:40] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: neat
[18:40] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Cool, hi.
[18:40] <voila> I stuck .. I want to untar all files and directory in a particular directory .. how can i do this
[18:40] <reisio> /msg alis list #ubuntu says there are 1,628 people on
[18:40] <PuffTheMagicDrag> So, question is, can I do it as an ISO with Win8 currently running?
[18:41] <reisio> voila: -C
[18:41] <reisio> voila: man tar
[18:41] <PuffTheMagicDrag> 1) I do not want to keep Win8, I will completely rewrite it.
[18:41] <PuffTheMagicDrag> 2) I do not have a CD.
[18:41] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: you should be able to
[18:41] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Thanks.
[18:41] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: I can't comment on any UEFI nonsense, though
[18:41] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I... Don't know what that is.
[18:41] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Should I?
[18:41] <PuffTheMagicDrag> This will be my first Linux.
[18:41] <reisio> there's a chance you might want to keep Windows 8 around to manage that, or possibly not, I don't follow it
[18:41] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: make a live usb system and install from that
[18:41] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: min
[18:41] <PuffTheMagicDrag> no, no need for Win8.
[18:42] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Win8 is the reason I'm changing to Ubuntu.
[18:42] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Win7 was one of the best OS ever.
[18:42] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Win8 is like using a Vista sheen on an ME.
[18:42] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: maybe you need to turn off safeboot uefi stuff in the bios menu
[18:42] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI best I can do :p
[18:42] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Crap >.<
[18:42] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I'll use a memory stick...
[18:42] <amsourav> install it using the wubi web client
[18:42] <reisio> ?
[18:42] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Will I still be able to do the full install with memstick?
[18:42] <z0ran> best os ever! come on...define best os ever, in what way
[18:42] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: but that is only if its enabled alreads. just give it a try
[18:42] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: usb stick, cd, dvd, all the same
[18:43] <k1l> amsourav: wubi :(
[18:43] <PuffTheMagicDrag> amsourav, I really, really don't want to keep Win8.
[18:43] <lauratika> is it possible to install ubuntu via iso set on my pc to a usb?
[18:43] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I want JUST Ubuntu. Is that what you're saying
[18:43] <Lizards|Work> wubi is lawl
[18:43] <Lizards|Work> i thought they killed wubi
[18:43] <k1l> !ot | z0ran
[18:43] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: yes
[18:43] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: make the usb stick and give it a go
[18:43] <predateur> hello
[18:43] <reisio> 'lo
[18:43] <ananassa> oh boy I haven't use IRC before
[18:43] <PuffTheMagicDrag> k1l, Yeah, doing so now.
[18:44] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Can i drop the ISO in ISO form on the stick? Or is there a special Stick boot version?
[18:44] <ananassa> I'm trying to follow the instructions for installing, ideally alongside Windows 7, but the disc (a DVD) will not boot on restart.
[18:44] <Lizards|Work> http://pendrivelinux.com
[18:45] <ananassa> Surprise surprise.
[18:45] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[18:45] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Why would you do Win7 and Ubuntu sidebyside?
[18:45] <ananassa> I get a blank screen with a blinking underscore for about a second before Windows starts.
[18:45] <voila> reisio, yes i will learn .. but really its urgent :)
[18:45] <jmav> mounting ubuntu server 12.04.2 iso file is write-protected, mounting read-only
[18:45] <ananassa> Pressing seemingly any key in this time takes me to the Windows Boot Manager, with no option to boot from CD or anything, just things about Safe Mode and stuff like that. What exactly am I supposed to do?
[18:45] <reisio> voila: well it says in the man page
[18:45] <jmav> how to make it writable
[18:46] <reisio> voila: tar -xpf foo.tar -C new/dir/path/here/
[18:46] <reisio> jmav: you'd have to copy it, then unsquash it, then modify it, then resquash, then re-image
[18:46] <Lizards|Work> reisio, i would have gone bar.tar
[18:46] <reisio> Lizards|Work: that's sick :p
[18:46] <Lizards|Work> baz.tar.gz
[18:48] <PuffTheMagicDrag> So, guys, I know you suggested pendrivelinux, but I'm not really seeing it as the exact same, just on a pendrive. So... If I put the boot ISO on the thumb drive, will it read it as it would a boot disc?
[18:48] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: probably
[18:48] <jmav> reisio: any url with help, basic goal is to add preseed file to image or USB boot key
[18:48] <PuffTheMagicDrag> And if worst comes to worst, you're sure I can just install Ubuntu straight from my Win8 desktop?
[18:48] <PuffTheMagicDrag> And completely wipe Win8?
[18:48] <predateur> hello
[18:49] <reisio> jmav: there are tools to master your own images, I forget their names
[18:49] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: yeah, probably
[18:49] <reisio> predateur: 'lo
[18:49] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Well, guess we'll find out. Thanks, guys.
[18:49] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I do appreciate the help.
[18:49] <ananassa> Is there any way to boot a CD using Windows Boot Manager? I'm not seeing it.
[18:50] <CarlFK> I need official Adobe reader to decrypt some pdf form I need to fill in - is there an archive or something, or do I have to go though adobee.com web install?
[18:50] <jmav> I tried with UCK but without luck on ubuntu server
[18:50] <reisio> CarlFK: should be in some repo
[18:51] <reisio> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AcrobatHowTo
[18:51] <reisio> perhaps not <shrug>
[18:51] <bazhang> !info acroread partner | CarlFK
[18:52] <CarlFK> bazhang: thanks
[18:52] <bazhang> np
[18:52] <jmav> Or, what is the simplest procedure to add new preseed file to iso image
[18:53] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Guys, last question.
[18:53] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Win8 does this weird shit I've never seen. It asks me how I want to use this, as rewriteable or not.
[18:53] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Since I've never gotten that question before...
[18:53] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Obviously I know what rewritable is, but Win8 is scaring em.
[18:54] <PuffTheMagicDrag> me*
[18:55] <heyuxiang> hello, how do i know what vga driver is currently being used?
[18:55] <ananassa> PuffTheMagicDrag: Is it asking if you want to use to CD/USB/etc. as storage? It does that in Win7 too.
[18:56] <reisio> heyuxiang: sudo lspci -k | grep -i vga -A 2
[18:56] <rosco_y> how do I speed up the rate that my mouse cursor travels over the desktop?
[18:56] <reisio> rosco_y: xset m
[18:56] <rosco_y> reisio: ty, is that at the command-line?
[18:56] <reisio> rosco_y: yes, but you can have it run automatically every time X/GNOME/Unity/etc. starts
[18:57] <heyuxiang> reisio: thanks : Kernel driver in use: i915
[18:57] <rosco_y> reisio: ty, how would I have it run automatically?
[18:57] <heyuxiang> reisio: is it the best driver for my intel HD graphic?
[18:58] <reisio> heyuxiang: most likely
[18:58] <reisio> rosco_y: something here http://www.google.com/search?q=help%20ubuntu%20autostart
[18:58] <reisio> I don't use GNOME/Unity or I'd be specific :)
[18:59] <rosco_y> thank you again!
[19:01] <Notionwork> Heyo! Anyone know if the Edge will be able to run other distos of Linux, since it can run a full Ubuntu install?
[19:02] <compdoc> heh
[19:02] <k1l> Notionwork: better ask in #ubuntu-touch for that specific questions
[19:03] <Notionwork> k1l: Thanks will do!
[19:03] <Madwill> Hello how can i install java 1.7 openJre on ubuntu server 8.04 if when i do "sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jre" i get "Package openjdk-7-jre is not available"
[19:03] <TheUser> Anyone tried yagi antennas, indoor?
[19:04] <DJones> Madwill: Ubuntu 8.04 is no longer supported
[19:04] <DJones> Madwill: Server support ended in May this year, so any repo's for it are likely to have been removed
[19:05] <Madwill> ok but can i add one from another source or something ?
[19:05] <OerHeks> not sure EOLupgrade trick provides openjdk 7
[19:05] <Madwill> damn
[19:06] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[19:06] <DJones> Madwill: You may find a ppa or repo, but I wouldn't like to rely on it working
[19:06] <Madwill> screw you server support provider
[19:06] <OerHeks> ...
[19:06] <Madwill> i mean the companie that gives me ubuntu 8.04 only
[19:07] <Madwill> everything's been harder because of it
[19:07] <werxxx> I need help
[19:07] <DeltaHeavy> They sounds incompetant
[19:07] <Lizards|Work> it ships with some legacy hardware
[19:07] <DJones> Madwill: It may well be worth pointing out to them that its end of life and no longer supported
[19:07] <dlpenguinlover> Madwill: so you're running a company issued server?
[19:08] <Madwill> pardon my english i speak french, this is a company called revolution Linux and provide server maintenances, i'm a programmer and my company employs them
[19:08] <Madwill> but they provide shit
[19:08] <Halite> -.-
[19:09] <IdleOne> Madwill: That has nothing to do with this channel and please keep the language clean in here
[19:09] <Madwill> ok sorry i'm not resonable
[19:09] <dlpenguinlover> Madwill: You should ask them about upgrading your servers to 12.04 LTS.
[19:09] <sha512> hey guys
[19:10] <Madwill> i will create a ticket
[19:10] <sha512> the question may be completely irrelevant but still i am asking
[19:11] <sha512> would ubuntu phone be available only for prebookers/donaters or would people be able to buy it after release
[19:11] <DJones> !phone | sha512
[19:11] <histo> !phone | sha512
[19:11] <Halite> I'm not sure if Ubuntu cannot detect Packard Bell's colour space requirements or if it is the hardware itself, but the colour profile I created in Color Settings assume the monitor output levels of green are slightly lower than all the others. This results in desirable effects sometimes - and undesirable ones other times.
[19:11] <Halite> How do I control or fix my problem?
[19:11] <sha512> thanks all
[19:11] <sha512> :)
[19:11] <dacs> howdy folks , i am currently running 10.10 " i know don't laugh at me :)" i did little search on how to upgrade from 10.10 to 13.04 and that yield 'do-release upgrade' command what do you guys suggest
[19:12] <Halite> ~.~
[19:12] <DJones> !eolupgrade | dacs
[19:13] <Halite> do-release upgrade then. On my first try at Ubuntu I didn't know how to shutdown and had to ask for a command to shut down.
[19:13] <bekks> dacs: Thats the command to use. You have to update to 11.04 to 11.10 to 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.04
[19:13] <bekks> dacs: A clean reinstall will be much faster.
[19:13] <Halite> he's running 10.10
[19:13] <bekks> Halite: I know.
[19:13] <DJones> dacs: Your other option would be a fresh install of either 12.04 for LTS or 13.04 as latest
[19:13] <Lizards|Work> it'd take roughly a day to do all those updates
[19:13] <OerHeks> dacs 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04 lts etc
[19:14] <werxxx> I can not connect my phone
[19:14] <Halite> ~.~ well my question's gone down the drain again
[19:15] <explodes> First time settings up NFS to start on boot. editing /etc/fstab with "<IP_ADDRESS>:/video /stuff/media/jason-nfs/video nfs rw,hard,intr,auto,nolock 0 0"
[19:15] <explodes> sudo mount -a doesn't mount the folder, dmesg tells me nothing
[19:15] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Hey, guys... None of the three things you suggested worked. Every time it said failed.
[19:15] <bekks> explodes: Add "_netdev" to the mount options.
[19:16] <dacs> thank you folks for all the tips. i guess yeah it will take me a whole day to go through it step-by-step hoping that all goes smooth "which never happens at this end. i think am going to just do a fresh install.
[19:16] <explodes> bekks: Still nothing
[19:16] <explodes> la
[19:17] <werxxx> Lol
[19:18] <dacs> so how would one go about backing up a system like mine. i mean pkgs ,setting and few downloads i have
[19:18] <macrobat> oh, ubuntuforums is down
[19:18] <dacs> the whole hdd is 160GB so thats not a biggy
[19:18] <macrobat> dacs: back up /etc do you have /home on its own partition?
[19:18] <DeltaHeavy> macrobat: Change your password, the hashing algo they used is so weak they might as well have stored your passwords in plain text.
[19:18] <dacs> macrobat: yeah, under maintenance
[19:19] <macrobat> backups are a good thing to do :D
[19:19] <dacs> macrobat: but google offer a great feature "chached"
[19:20] <dacs> macrobat: thats how i got to my info
[19:20] <dacs> heheheh
[19:21] <dacs> macrobat: no i don't have '/home on its own partition !
[19:21] <SunStar> is it possible to bind keyboard shortcuts to buttons on a game controller? (AKA why cant i use my XBOX controller as an HID?)
[19:21] <goddard> what is the calender applet called in unity?
[19:21]  * dacs light bulb!!! macrobat that is not a bad idea to have /home on its own partition
[19:22] <dacs> i could 've avoid all this headache now if i had it partition separately!
[19:22] <macrobat> yes, makes maintenance easier
[19:23] <SunStar> dacs, yes. at least you know from now on.
[19:23] <trism> goddard: indicator-datetime ?
[19:23] <dacs> SunStar: lesson learned
[19:24] <dacs> which tool should i use to backup
[19:24] <macrobat> how much is recommended for a root partition these days? more than 30G?
[19:25] <SunStar> ^^ especially when you dont know how the box will be used
[19:25] <jpds> macrobat: /     6.3G    3.7G  2.4G   61% /
[19:25] <k1l> macrobat: / without /home is 10-20GB for a regular desktop
[19:25] <jpds> macrobat: Though I have /var on a separate partition using 2GB.
[19:25] <macrobat> oh, not more. good
[19:25] <Lizards|Work> can be less if you're running a headless server
[19:26] <k1l> macrobat: depends on how much you install etc. etc. you can get under 5GB if yuo want, but if you have plenty of space go with something from 10-20
[19:26] <SunStar> i was told not to put var on its own drive (dont know why beyond messing with grep)
[19:26] <ihre> ./dev/mapper/vg00-root 9.9G 2.0G 7.4G 22% -> headless
[19:27] <raub> SunStar: what I found out is that if you put var on its own partition at install time you are ok. Changing it later may be exciting
[19:28] <dacs> is there a guide on how to setup these partition properly
[19:28] <SunStar> first time i tried out ubuntu i maxed out my 24GB root partition cuz i had a bit too much fun with software center)
[19:28] <ihre> dacs, manual partitioning, or using the Ubuntu installer?
[19:29] <dacs> cool , thank you ihre
[19:29] <dacs> i never thought that 10.10 doesn't have backup on it
[19:29] <dacs> ;)
[19:29] <dacs> in 12.10 i just type backup and pooff there it is
[19:30] <ihre> lol dacs I havent helped you in any way I believe
[19:30] <ihre> I was asking if you need a guide on manual partitioning (fdisk/parted/w/e) or using the Ubuntu installer ?
[19:31] <werxxx> Tell me about it
[19:31] <dacs> ihre: heheheh , manual partition guide will be good
[19:31] <Lunar_Lander> hi, is it OK to ask a question about the forum getting hacked here?
[19:31] <Lunar_Lander> I just read the e-mail
[19:31] <DJones> Lunar_Lander: I'd suggest #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntuforums
[19:32] <Lunar_Lander> ah thanks!
[19:32] <SunStar> dacs,  20GB "/", SWAP that is big enough to fit all the data getting dumped from ur RAM when going to sleep, and the rest to /home
[19:32] <Lizards|Work> swap should be 2x RAM
[19:33] <SunStar> well i never have a swap partition unless its a low end box
[19:33] <goddard> trism: is it?
[19:33] <rantic> Lizards|Work: Maybe in 2002, I'm not prepared to have 32gb of swap :p
[19:33] <[Raiden]> )
[19:33] <goddard> trism: i have the clock in the right hand corner but not calender when i click it
[19:33] <reisio> these days swap should lean more towards equivalent to ram
[19:34] <dacs> backup - how?
[19:34] <Lizards|Work> rantic, why not, i do =p
[19:34] <reisio> dacs: I like rdiff-backup
[19:34] <rantic> It just seems like overkill, it made sense 5-7 years back.
[19:34] <werxxx> How to use swap
[19:34] <Lizards|Work> prolly get away with 1.5x RAM
[19:34] <SunStar> doont
[19:34] <reisio> rantic: long time ago
[19:34] <masterkiller2000> i just set up ubuntu on my 64 bit laptop on i get a error say that ubuntu is unable to find a medium containing live file system. how do I fix this?
[19:34] <reisio> werxxx: as an end user you don't have to do much, the OS uses it
[19:34] <rantic> This is of course a completely subjective opinion and would change entirely on someones usage, I'm talking about the average user.
[19:34] <SunStar> the best way to use SWAP is not to use it
[19:35] <reisio> rantic: well, not completely
[19:35] <rantic> reisio: Oh?
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> werxxx, The OS uses swap you can make a swap in an install or with a partitioner, and you can control the swappiness.
[19:35] <werxxx> Thx
[19:36] <trism> goddard: can I see a screenshot?
[19:36] <reisio> Ubuntu will install with swap setup by default
[19:36] <Lizards|Work> ^^^ i don't think wubi installs did
[19:36] <rantic> man I would love the hud with fluxbox or openbox..
[19:36] <reisio> Lizards|Work: thinking is overrated
[19:36] <trism> goddard: although in the options there is an option to disable the calendar, have you checked that?
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> Lizards|Work, Swap can be a casper-rw file rather that normal, not sure on a wubi though.
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> than*
[19:38] <goddard> trism: ya thats all it was i unchecked it for some reason
[19:39] <ihre> dacs, http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/19350.html is actually a pretty good write up on basic fdisk partitioning
[19:40] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, swap can be casper-rw file? Didn't get it. AFAIK, casper-rw stores changes while swap is volatile.
[19:40] <dacs> ihre: thank you , could you please point me to a good backup solution
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, You can have a file that even exspands per need.
[19:41] <dlpenguinlover> Does anyone here have any experience with bazaar repos??
[19:41] <ihre> well, I'm using BackupPC at home, for multiple hosts like my nas, desktop, router & whatnot
[19:41] <mmercer> has anyone else had issues getting ls --color=auto working on ubuntu server-12.04
[19:41] <Pici> dlpenguinlover: Your question would likely be more on-topic for #bzr
[19:42] <mmercer> i can run byobu (which I am), and even the curses is all in color, but ls --color=auto does *not* output color.  current TERM is set to screen (as is default for byobu)... using iterm2 on osx (which is fully compliant with all the normal term profiles)
[19:42] <mmercer> ubuntu is the only os i have this issue with, and its downright aggrevating
[19:42] <dlpenguinlover> Pici: okay thank you :)
[19:43] <Radiant> hey guys
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, It may not be called a casper-rw as a internal, I think it is though, but I have used this for fun. http://pqxx.org/development/swapspace/
[19:43] <Radiant> does anyone know how to set up laptop for runninig Dota 2 on Steam?
[19:43] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, taking a look...
[19:43] <chunkyhead> while setting up port forwarding for ssh what should be the local ip add??
[19:44] <Radiant> i installed bumblebee,p rimus and nvidia experimental drivers
[19:44] <Radiant> but it still doensn't work well
[19:44] <Kitt3n> I don't know if this is the proper place for asking this, but when I try to run Half-Life 2 with AMD (from amd.com) drivers this happens after a few minutes http://<IP_ADDRESS>/stupid.jpg http://<IP_ADDRESS>/stupid2.jpg
[19:44] <ihre> dacs, you could have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/backup-shellscripts.html, or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupPC
[19:45] <werxxx> Lol
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, On a live cd with persistence it is a file, and I have made casper-rw partitions on a usb to exceed the 4 gig limit as well, but you know all this already I suspect. ;)
[19:45] <Kitt3n> Radiant, Linux and Nvidia doesn't mix well, as far as I know. What doesn't "work well"?
[19:45] <bekks> Kitt3n: Linux and Nvidia works perfect here for about 10 years now.
[19:46] <werxxx> Other video cards
[19:46] <checoimg> Hi everyone
[19:46] <Kitt3n> bekks, it tends to work great when it first starts to work, yah
[19:46] <werxxx> Hello
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, File may not be the technical syntax though, lol, not sure the actual.
[19:47] <varunendra> wilee-nilee, I have an 8gb flash drive with that kind of setup (700 MB FAT32 for LIVE, 4+GB ext3 for casper-rw, rest NTFS) ;)
[19:47] <checoimg> I have some duplicates in the repositories when I do apt-get update
[19:47] <bekks> Kitt3n: You are the first one I met who isnt happy with Nvidia and Linux.
[19:47] <bekks> checoimg: Then remove the duplicates from your sources.
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> varunendra, Somnds like what I have done as well.
[19:47] <thiebaude> checoimg, did you check your software sources?
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> Sounds*
[19:48] <checoimg> Yes I don;t see duplicates just the UBuntu SDK team
[19:48] <varunendra> YeahRight, cuz that 4gb limit sucks ;)
[19:48] <checoimg> And UBUntu edgers something
[19:48] <checoimg> Qt5 Edgers
[19:48] <skulltip> I want to create a simple 2d game and distribute the binary/data, with little emphasis on the source if at all. what is recommended, freebasic? gambas3? python? SDL or sfml? What i want is for example an arch linux user to pick up the tar.gz unzip and play it. Or a .deb would be ok, gambas3 can create .deb files.
[19:48] <varunendra> YeahRight, sorry, didn't mean to call you ;)
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> checoimg, Look in etc/apt/sources.list.d for ppa's
[19:49] <MonkeyDust> skulltip  what distro are you in now?
[19:49] <dacs> ihre: well since my 10.10 is EOL i can't download any pkg from repo so i will copy my files manually
[19:49] <skulltip> 12.04
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> dacs, You see the eol info from the bot yest?
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> yet*
[19:50] <ihre> dacs, with that script your release shouldnt matter
[19:52] <ghabit> Hello. After installing ubuntu bootup logo looks stretched. How to fix it?
[19:52] <brontosaurusrex> skulltip, why not some html5/canvas stuff?
[19:53] <werxxx> Linux it is free os or trial
[19:53] <Fly-Man-> Morning fellow Ubuntu people
[19:53] <werxxx> Payment
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> skulltip  there's the channel ##Indie-Games, but it has only 10 people in it
[19:53] <chunkyhead> werxxx, os trial
[19:53] <Fly-Man-> Can anyone point me to a good solution why I am getting a destination not responding explanation ?
[19:53] <skulltip> brontosaurusrex - kind of want to stay around linux
[19:53] <skulltip> ty MonkeyDust
[19:54] <werxxx> Chukyhead oh my god
[19:55] <checoimg> I don't see duplicates there, HOw is it telling me that there is  ?
[19:56] <bassmasta420> can anyone help me out with an sftp and chroot problem?
[19:56] <bekks> bassmasta420: That would require you to tell us about the actual problem.
[19:56] <bassmasta420> I posted a question on ask ubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/324039/chroot-sftp-not-able-to-login
[19:56] <DJones> werxxx: Pretty much most versions of Linux operating systems are free
[19:57] <dacs> ihre: now all what i want is a list off all installed pkgs
[19:57] <checoimg> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring-security/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring-security_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
[19:58] <bassmasta420> since I added a ChrootDirectory command to my sshd_config I can't login anymore
[19:58] <ihre> dacs, dpkg -l, dpkg --get-selections
[19:58] <bekks> checoimg: Well, then remove the duplicate from your sources.
[19:58] <werxxx> Ok I go to work. Good bie everyone. Peace
[19:59] <checoimg> Bye
[19:59] <werxxx> Lol
[20:05] <Halite> I'm not sure if Ubuntu cannot detect Packard Bell's colour space requirements or if it is the hardware itself, but the colour profile I created in Color Settings assume the monitor output levels of green are slightly lower than all the others. This results in desirable effects sometimes - and undesirable ones other times. How do I control or fix my problem?
[20:05] <reisio> Halite: what's the problem by default?
[20:05] <Halite> reisio, I'm not entirely sure
[20:06] <reisio> ...
[20:06] <reisio> Halite: what's the problem as you perceive it by default?
[20:06] <Halite> oh....
[20:06] <Halite> reisio, dark greys appear a slight green tint.
[20:06] <reisio> and it's not just the monitor?
[20:06] <Halite> To be honest it is only just noticable
[20:07] <Halite> it is not the monitor
[20:07] <reisio> how do you know?
[20:07] <Halite> I went into Color Settings, checked colour profile, and the TRC was different for the green graph.
[20:08] <reisio> so you haven't tried a different monitor
[20:08] <Halite> I'm on a laptop, cmon guys!
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> Halite, Hold on let me get my Karnac hat.
[20:09] <Halite> I'm running a Packard Bell Dot S
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> hmm I sense a disturbance in the force
[20:10] <Halite> I dualboot Windows (the first OS) with Ubuntu (secondary) and the TRC's defects have recently spread into Windows!
[20:10] <reisio> Halite: you keep saying that as if it matters :)
[20:10] <Lizards|Work> ...
[20:10] <Lizards|Work> Halite, if it's happening regardless of OS, it's hardware
[20:10] <reisio> can you try another monitor?
[20:10] <Halite> unless the OS's setting spreads
[20:11] <reisio> so your first suspicion is magic? :)
[20:11] <Halite> I doubt it is hardware
[20:11] <Halite> nope
[20:11] <Lizards|Work> do you have an external monitoy
[20:11] <Lizards|Work> s/oy/yo
[20:11] <Halite> my first suspicion is TRC and Ubuntu's greed to override the correct setting Windows had. (Which is strange because it is usually the other way round.)
[20:12] <Lizards|Work> uh
[20:12] <Lizards|Work> no
[20:12] <MonkeyDust> Halite  windows settings have nothing to do with ubuntu settings, unless it's wubi
[20:12] <reisio> or hardware :p
[20:12] <SunStar> Halite, adjust the color profile, try loading a different color profile and check your driver's control panel to see what adjustments can be made there
[20:12] <Halite> MonkeyDust, surprise! It is wubi!
[20:13] <Halite> reisio, not hardware :p
[20:13] <reisio> Halite: yet to be determined :p
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> Halite  wubi is not a real installation, better get rid of it
[20:13] <Halite> SunStar, Ubuntu won't let me whatever I install
[20:13] <Halite> MonkeyDust, don't make me kick you in the chickens
[20:13] <MonkeyDust> Halite  try to behave, please
[20:13] <Halite> ok
[20:13] <Halite> ops:
[20:14] <ikonia> Halite: ?
[20:14] <Lizards|Work> Halite, can you boot a live distro and verify it's the hardware please
[20:14] <Halite> MonkeyDust, I'm behaving. I'm ill. I'm annoyed.
[20:14] <Halite> DON'T
[20:14] <Halite> MAKE
[20:14] <Halite> ME
[20:14] <Halite> BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRST
[20:14] <FloodBot1> Halite: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> Halite  wubi is a windows application, hence the issue lies with windows
[20:14] <Lizards|Work> or use an external monitor and verify it's the hardware
[20:14] <ikonia> and now you're muted, lets get back to normal service
[20:14] <Lizards|Work> oh chanserv, never change
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> Halite  what Lizards|Work suggests, try a live cd or usb
[20:15] <SunStar> when and where would that kind of behavior ever be tolerated / acceptable?
[20:15] <Radiant> hey guys
[20:15] <Radiant> does anyone know how to set up laptop for runninig Dota 2 on Steam?
[20:15] <Radiant> i installed bumblebee, primus and nvidia experimental drivers
[20:15] <Radiant> but it still doensn't work well
[20:16] <Lizards|Work> buy a macbook pro
[20:16] <reisio> heh
[20:16] <Radiant> max resolution is 1024x768 and the framerate is pretty bad
[20:16] <Halite> ~.~
[20:16] <Radiant> nah, it works well on windows
[20:16] <Halite> let me finish
[20:17] <kalen> help question: Pulseaudio/Alsa: I just started getting some pops in my audio in Mint 15. I've tried reinstalling Alsa and Pulse, and I just noticed that when i use alsamixer, I can turn down some of the settings, but after a minute or two there is a pop and the levels are all reset to the defaults
[20:17] <reisio> sounds like a bug
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> !mint | kalen
[20:17]  * reisio suspects pulse
[20:18] <kalen> aw
[20:18] <kalen> I figured there were more knowledgeable people in here
[20:18] <Lizards|Work> heh
[20:18] <Lizards|Work> i had that problem on my old pc, but this new beast has no such issues
[20:19] <kalen> I just replaced the motherboard, but it's been in for at least a week, and this issue just started yesterday
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> kalen, we done be only knowing the chaneeel rules.
[20:19] <kalen> plus no issue in Windows
[20:19] <dtcrshr> kalen: i had this issue on lmde, im using jack
[20:20] <dtcrshr> pulse and alsa get me crappy sound
[20:20] <dtcrshr> give jack a try
[20:20] <kalen> wilee-nilee: let's say it's ubuntu 13.04?
[20:20] <dtcrshr> jack and pulse-jack solves mostly of the routing and them
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> kalen  are you using mint? if yes, that's not supported here
[20:20] <kalen> MonkeyDust: ok thanks
[20:20] <kalen> dtcrshr: interesting I haven't tried it yet, thanks for the tip
[20:21] <skulltip> should i bother writing the game using GTK or QT as a GUI, or other?
[20:21] <dacs> ihre: got everything thank you for all the help
[20:21] <skulltip> i know there is some division with Unity and gnome
[20:22] <dtcrshr> kalen: jack is a pretty much advanced audio system. take that in mind when you begin trying it. If you have some dificulties please ask us on #jack
[20:22] <kalen> dtcrshr: will do
[20:22] <ihre> dacs, no problem !
[20:22] <dacs> ihre: one last question if i may, can i install from online
[20:23] <ihre> dacs, install what from online?
[20:23] <dacs> that is installing 13.04 streaming from online
[20:23] <ihre> you mean on a remote host ?
[20:23] <macrobat> install from online? streaming?
[20:23] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Need help. Trying to install Ubuntu on my Windows 8 (in place of, preferably). Using USB, CD, or booting ISO from desktop, it says that boot failed. That's the whole message, boot failed. Help?
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | PuffTheMagic
[20:24] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I did.
[20:24] <dacs> what is the right phrase... i don't want to download and install from cd. i am asking if there is a way that i can install 13.04 direct from the web
[20:24] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Have anything helpful?
[20:24] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I already disabled the Secureboot. That was the first thing I did.
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> PuffTheMagicDrag, You can't run a wubi from W8, if that is your goal here.
[20:24] <ihre> dacs, yea, use the minimal iso. it pulls everything you want from the web
[20:24] <Lizards|Work> he's playing coy about UEFI and needing to disable it
[20:24] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: http://askubuntu.com/questions/227563/dual-boot-win-8-fail-to-boot-ubuntu
[20:25] <kalen> PuffTheMagicDrag: Make sure you are booting the USB/DVD/etc in EFI mode
[20:25] <Lizards|Work> s/it/secure boot
[20:25] <dacs> ihre: but that means i will have to burn a cd/usb and boot from it
[20:25] <macrobat> cds are cheap
[20:25] <Lizards|Work> afaik there is no 'web installer'
[20:25] <PuffTheMagicDrag> What is EFI mode? I'm just doing this how the directions say....
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | PuffTheMagic
[20:25] <dacs> not that i am just laxy
[20:25] <ihre> dacs, you manually configure the packages you'd like to install with the minimal iso & yeah you would have to make a bootable iso/cd
[20:26] <PuffTheMagicDrag> wilee-nilee, ubottu, thank you, you have certainly shown me the error of my ways in asking questions.
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> PuffTheMagicDrag, WE cannot read your mind kill the drama.
[20:26] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Is there another #ubuntu on a different server? I'd be happy to spare you further "drama".
[20:26] <ihre> but youre planning to update from 10.10 to 13.04, dacs?
[20:26] <ashipa> Hello
[20:26] <dacs> ihre: no i decided to do a fresh install
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> PuffTheMagic, And I'm happy to ignore you.
[20:27] <bassmasta420> I need help setting up a chroot directory for sftp users.. can anyone help?
[20:27] <Lizards|Work> PuffTheMagicDrag, http://google.com#how+to+boot+EFI
[20:28] <ihre> dacs, you dont have any usb sticks around? 64mb would be enough for the minimal iso
[20:28] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Ah, I see what EFI is. I'm not looking to partition.
[20:28] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I don't want Windows 8 at all.
[20:28] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: efi is the new bios.
[20:28] <Arkhana> Hello everybody! I just got the message: etc/default/plptools Access Denied
[20:28] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: right, the question is merely whether you will run into trouble if you fully remove Windows 8
[20:28] <Arkhana> But I was root!
[20:29] <reisio> well, UEFI is the new version of EFI, which will probably also fail :p
[20:29] <dacs> ihre: that is cool , i am downloading the iso now and will burn it to a cd , it is just that i was working a night shift and i am tired ...i will head to bed and will continue tomorrow
[20:29] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I was in UEFI. Did everything I was supposed to.
[20:29] <k1l> PuffTheMagicDrag: with secureboot etc. so you might want to take a look at it. what about the link i gave you. did you take a look at it?
[20:29] <dacs> good night and i will update you later with the result
[20:29] <ihre> good luck dacs
[20:29] <dacs> again thank you for all your help and thank you everyone that helped me today
[20:29] <PuffTheMagicDrag> yes, I was in the UEFI, as per your reference the first time, thank you. Disabled secureboot and everythign else I was supposed to.
[20:29] <Arkhana> K1l: in fact, its UEFI and not EFI
[20:30] <dacs> you guys always ROCK!!!!
[20:30] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Unfortunately, I don't have a specific error message, it's just telling me it failed.
[20:30] <Arkhana> But that doesn't matter :D
[20:30] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Here's the exact message: <The selected boot device failed. Press enter to continue.> That's after all the EUFI stuff is disabled.
[20:30] <Lizards|Work> none of that matters, what matters is our plan
[20:31] <Arkhana> Indeed
[20:33] <Arkhana> Actually kinda weird that a system that's over 30 years had been kicked away
[20:33] <Lizards|Work> age does not imply value
[20:34] <LuckySMack> i am trying to upgrade an ubuntu 12.10 server to 13.04 using the command 'do-release-upgrade' but I get this error: http://pastebin.com/DjMLdZvC
[20:34] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Is there no way to simply format my entire computer, and install Ubuntu?
[20:34] <Arkhana> I agree, but it's been used so very loooooooong
[20:34] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I really have 0 interest in this Windows Hate.
[20:34] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: sounds like your having difficulty with booting, not installation per se :)
[20:34] <reisio> like you're*
[20:35] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Quite possibly.
[20:35] <reisio> haven't really been paying attention, what happened again?
[20:35] <Lizards|Work> PuffTheMagicDrag, create a bootable installation media, disable secureboot, boot the installation media, pew pew pew pew
[20:35] <kalen> pew pew
[20:35] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Lizards|Work, did that when you guys suggested it. Now that all that is done, it gives me this: <The selected boot device failed. Press enter to continue.>
[20:36] <PuffTheMagicDrag> That's it. No more information that that.
[20:36] <Lizards|Work> is the device bootable?
[20:36] <Lizards|Work> the cd/usb?
[20:36] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Yes, both.
[20:36] <PuffTheMagicDrag> And I've tried both.
[20:36] <raven> xubuntu: "failed to load session "gnome" - how to solve that?
[20:36] <Arkhana> Puff: Why don't disable Secure boot?
[20:37] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: what's the boot device?
[20:37] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Arkhana, I swear, I promise to you, as I have said, it is disabled. It doesn't get any more disabled. It SAYS it's disabled, at least, now that I've disabled it.
[20:38] <Lizards|Work> have you verified that the device is indeed bootable?
[20:38] <reisio> ...
[20:38] <PuffTheMagicDrag> reisio, I've tried both CD and USB. Also, from the desktop. Lizards|Work, I figured I couldn't have done it wrong more than twice...
[20:38] <PuffTheMagicDrag> But I might have??
[20:38] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I've never done this.
[20:38] <PuffTheMagicDrag> How do I check?
[20:38] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: k, you probably have to go into the UEFI stuff and tweak your boot prefs, then
[20:38] <Lizards|Work> boot from it on another system
[20:38] <Lizards|Work> or in a virtual machine
[20:39] <PuffTheMagicDrag> If I boot from it on a different laptop, can I cancel out before it does anything important?
[20:39] <Lizards|Work> yes
[20:39] <Lizards|Work> always
[20:39] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Cool... Good idea. Will try, thank you.
[20:39] <chunkyhead> im unable to configure my machine for a successful ssh connection. please help
[20:40] <isaacbw> when running hwinfo --framebuffer I get a dbus error like "hal.1: read hal dataprocess 4050: arguments to dbus_move_error() were incorrect" is that a bug?
[20:40] <mma> hello everyone, I have a problem with my ubuntu server 12.04. Whenever I boot it up it tells me that there are 5 packages can be updated, 2 of them are security updates, but when I "apt-get upgrade" I get "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded."
[20:40] <ubuntivity> hello everyone, I have a problem with my ubuntu server 12.04. Whenever I boot it up it tells me that there are 5 packages can be updated, 2 of them are security updates, but when I "apt-get upgrade" I get "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded."
[20:40] <PuffTheMagicDrag> ...
[20:40] <DJones> !repeat | ubuntivity
[20:41] <ubuntivity> Sorry DJones, client problem!
[20:41] <macrobat> raven: could you go a bit more into detail?
[20:41] <macrobat> chunkyhead: more detail, please
[20:41] <Lizards|Work> ubuntivity, did you try sudo apt-get upgrade?
[20:42] <ubuntivity> yes I tried it. I get a message telling me that two packages have been kept back
[20:42] <Arkhana> Ubuntivity: Did you brutely power-off your PC at the latest update?
[20:42] <caersith> ubuntuvity: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:42] <chunkyhead> macrobat,  i ssh onto grex basically to test my own ssh connection. i so ssh username@ipadd, it says connection timed out. i've port forwarded port 22 to localip i got from ifconfig
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> ubuntivity, Probably a kernel run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:42] <DJones> ubuntivity: I had the same issue on 12.04 server, I had to use dist-upgrade to get the updates which were kernel updates
[20:42] <zykotic10> caersith: +1 for ubuntivity reply
[20:42] <ubuntivity> I don't usually do that Arkhana, but I might got a power-off (not sure though)
[20:42] <raven> macrobat, i load a thightvnc session on a remote xubuntu machine and get that error
[20:43] <trism> isaacbw: bug 775542
[20:43] <ihre> ubuntivity, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69
[20:43] <ubuntivity> Won't that upgrade the entire distro??
[20:43] <Arkhana> Ubuntivity: That messed up my updates one time
[20:43] <zykotic10> !dist-upgrade > ubuntivity
[20:43] <Arkhana> I meant about poweroff
[20:43] <k1l> dist-upgrade will not make it from 12.04 to 12.10
[20:44] <macrobat> LuckySMack: maybe this helps? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1178245
[20:44] <axgb> hi
[20:44] <zykotic10> ubuntivity: dist-upgrade is the same as full-upgrade (in aptitude)
[20:44] <axgb> How to I install Ubuntu Tablet Edition on my samsung tablet?
[20:44] <macrobat> I don't know vnc :D
[20:44] <DJones> !tablet | axgb
[20:44] <ubuntivity> and what is the way to update the entire distro release in apt-get??
[20:44] <zykotic10> !upgrade | ubuntivity
[20:45] <k1l> ubuntivity: its do-release-upgrade not apt-get
[20:45] <BluesKaj> ubuntivity, update as in ?
[20:45] <isaacbw> yea, damn, looks like a dependency issue
[20:45] <isaacbw> installing hal by hand fixed the error
[20:45] <axgb> Can I just install it on my tablet?
[20:45] <ubuntivity> Are you assuring me that dist-upgrade WON'T upgrade my distro?
[20:45] <caersith> ubuntivity: apt-get dist-upgrade -s to simulate the upgrade
[20:45] <LuckySMack> anyone know how I can fix this trying to update my server? http://pastebin.com/DjMLdZvC
[20:45] <ubuntivity> Good advice caersith :)
[20:45] <DJones> axgb: See ubottu's info, please ask in #ubuntu-touch
[20:45] <k1l> ubuntivity: please read the bots messages if you dont believe us
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> axgb, There is no tablet version, do you mean ubuntu-touch?
[20:45] <axgb> ok
[20:45] <caersith> np
[20:46] <Arkhana> Ubuntivity: Why not upgrading?
[20:46] <ubuntivity> I believe you, but I don't believe the bots :P
[20:46] <macrobat> LuckySMack: did you check the link I gave you? :D
[20:46] <ubuntivity> Arkhana: I want to remain on the LTS version
[20:46] <BluesKaj> ubuntivity, dist-upgrade upgrades installed packages and kernels, not the release
[20:46] <axgb> yes, its on the ubuntu website
[20:47] <LuckySMack> macrobat: ah didnt see it. looking. thanks.
[20:47] <ubuntivity> so what is different between "dist-upgrade" and "upgrade"
[20:47] <Arkhana> Mkay
[20:47] <Dr_willis> dist  upgrade is more intensive
[20:48] <ubuntivity> * what is the difference between "dist-upgrade" and "upgrade"?
[20:48] <chunkyhead> macrobat, ?
[20:48] <maslowbeer> hello. I broke my 13.04 on my laptop when trying to install gnome - mostly purged and got everything working again, but it's not detecting the second display DPMI settings. Is there a way to force a model number for the second display so I can get a decent resolution?
[20:48] <macrobat> chunkyhead: sorry, maybe someone else knows better
[20:49] <chunkyhead> guys help. i ssh onto grex basically to test my own ssh connection. i so ssh username@ipadd, it says connection timed out. i've port forwarded port 22 to localip i got from ifconfig.
[20:49] <DJones> ubuntivity: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade
[20:49] <Arkhana> Chunkyhead: don't know too. Why not trying the iRC channel about SSH?
[20:49] <ubuntivity> Thanks DJones
[20:50] <chunkyhead> Arkhana, no one online lol
[20:51] <LuckySMack> macrobat: yea figures. it doesnt look like theres a way around it yet. not that I see at least.
[20:51] <ikonia> chunkyhead: are you trying to ssh to an ipad ?
[20:51] <axgb> Is ubuntu touch this? http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet
[20:51] <chunkyhead> ikonia, pc with ubuntu
[20:51] <Arkhana> Chunlyhead: What's your SSH prog?
[20:51] <macrobat> LuckySMack: and if you install python-apt?
[20:51] <ikonia> chunkyhead: so have you tested the ssh connection locally
[20:51] <chunkyhead> ikonia, how do i do that
[20:51] <ikonia> chunkyhead: it sounds like your port forwarding is just wrong
[20:52] <ikonia> chunkyhead: connect to the ubuntu machine on the local lan, and/or then do "ssh localhost" and see if it responds
[20:52] <pkkm> does Ubuntu 13.04 have SELinux enabled by default?
[20:52] <ikonia> pkkm: no
[20:52] <pkkm> ikonia: thanks.
[20:52] <chunkyhead> ikonia, i dont have another local machine
[20:52] <ikonia> pkkm: it uses apparmor
[20:52] <Lizards|Work> SELinux
[20:52] <ikonia> chunkyhead: ok, then plug a monitor into the machine and do "ssh localhost" to confirm it's listening
[20:52] <Arkhana> Chunkyhead: Seems you got help in the end :D
[20:52] <Lizards|Work> every time SELinux is said, a kitten goes through a meatgrinder
[20:53] <reisio> nasty
[20:53] <chunkyhead> ikonia, operating on another log in tty should work?
[20:53] <ikonia> chunkyhead: just use the one your using now
[20:53] <ikonia> chunkyhead: just do "ssh localhost" in a terminal
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> Lizards|Work, congrats you continues off topic comments get an ignore
[20:54] <chunkyhead> ikonia, connection refused
[20:54] <ikonia> chunkyhead: ok, so sshd is not running
[20:54] <LuckySMack> macrobat: python-apt is already installed. looking online i may have found a fix. trying it.
[20:54] <ikonia> chunkyhead: that is the first problem to resolve
[20:54] <Lizards|Work> was that even english?
[20:54] <ikonia> Lizards|Work: lets just keep to ubuntu support please
[20:54] <Lizards|Work> noted
[20:54] <ikonia> without the additional coments (please)
[20:54] <ikonia> thanks
[20:55] <Arkhana> LizardsWork: I have always thought: What if a squirrel can't come out a tree fast enough and gets killed by a tree shredder
[20:55] <Arkhana> I guess you mean that
[20:55] <ikonia> I suspect we drop that example now please.
[20:56] <Arkhana> Sounds like a very good idea
[20:56] <LuckySMack> ok I think I got it working.
[20:56] <ubuntivity> Guys, can I play audio files on Ubuntu Server?
[20:57] <Dr_willis> ubuntivity,  if you got speakers.. sure.
[20:57] <Pessimist> Can someone help me resolve a problem with these broken packages? http://pastebin.com/TMXnKj8A
[20:57] <ubuntivity> How, Dr_willis ?
[20:57] <Dr_willis> ubuntivity,  theres numerous console based audio player apps in the repos
[20:57] <Arkhana> Mp3blaster
[20:57] <Dr_willis> !info mpg123
[20:57] <Arkhana> Just an example
[20:58] <ikonia> Pessimist: looks like you've got some unstable/ppa's setup
[20:58] <rypervenche> Pessimist: PPAs do not play well with Ubuntu.
[20:58] <ihre> ncmpcpp + mpd = command line music <3
[20:58] <ikonia> PPA's can work just fine
[20:58] <ikonia> it depends on who is maintaining them
[20:58] <rypervenche> Exactly ~_^
[20:58] <Pessimist> ikonia, rypervenche, yep I had some PPAs but I've removed them. Just need to fix this issue
[20:58] <ikonia> Pessimist: you'll have to undo everything they have installed
[20:58] <ubuntivity> should aplay work, too?
[20:58] <rypervenche> Pessimist: How did you remove them?
[20:58] <Dr_willis> !ppa-purge
[20:58] <Arkhana> Ihre: that's <3 for sure
[20:59] <Dr_willis> ubuntivity,  try it and see.
[20:59] <chunkyhead> ikonia, got the portforwarding fixed. still cant use ssh from grex to my computer
[20:59] <ikonia> Pessimist: removing the repo won't do it, you need to undo everything they have installed, including dependencies
[20:59] <Dr_willis> !info aplay
[20:59] <Dr_willis> !find aplay
[20:59] <ikonia> chunkyhead: can you do "ssh localhost" on the ssh server ?
[20:59] <chunkyhead> i should be running "ssh username@ip" right? ikonia
[20:59] <chunkyhead> ikonia, yeah
[20:59] <ikonia> chunkyhead: ok that's not portwarding
[20:59] <ikonia> chunkyhead: that's just making sure the daemon is listening
[20:59] <Lizards|Work> ssh -l user host
[20:59] <StArcher> Hi All, I have a quick question about nautilus and dconf, can anyone help/point me in the right direction?
[20:59] <ikonia> chunkyhead: so from the client you can do "ssh username@ipaddres"
[21:00] <Pessimist> ikonia, rypervenche, so I basically should enable them again and use ppa-purge on them?
[21:00] <ubuntivity> I'll try mpg123 and see
[21:00] <rypervenche> Pessimist: Yes, that would be the best way.
[21:01] <chunkyhead> ikonia, oh my bad. i thought that was port forwarding. anyways ssh username@ip gives me connection timed out from client
[21:01] <trism> StArcher: what is the question?
[21:01] <Lizards|Work> ping host
[21:02] <chunkyhead> Lizards|Work, ping works fine
[21:03] <Dr_willis> can you ssh to localhost on the remote server? (ssh to itself?)
[21:03] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Lizards|Work, you nailed it. The answer was indeed that simple. I checked on a third device, it was not bootable, downloaded a different program to make a bootable one from. Thank you! Also, reisio, thank you, k1l, thank you,
[21:03] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Sorry I'm so computer ignorant ;)
[21:03] <Lizards|Work> grats PuffTheMagicDrag
[21:03] <Lizards|Work> no worries, it's happened to us all at least once
[21:03] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Well, hold off on the grats. It's installing now, but I'm sure I can break it somehow.
[21:04] <chunkyhead> Dr_willis, ikonia http://screencloud.net/v/1saI
[21:04] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I'll likely be asking you guys again in just a few minutes...
[21:04] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Actually, Lizards|Work, I have another question already. Does this mean Windows Hate is gone forever? Have I wiped it? If not, how DO I wipe it completely?
[21:04] <Lizards|Work> if you're using the entire volume, it's being overwritten
[21:04] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  a simple 'yes i can ssh to local host' works..  would have been sufficient.
[21:05] <Dr_willis> chunkyhead,  if pc1 can ping pc2 but not ssh to it.. and pc2 is running ssh (local host ssh test worked)  then that points to a firewall issue. or other network blockages
[21:05] <chunkyhead> yes i can ssh to localhost :P i said that earlier, i assumed u had seen and wanted screenie
[21:05] <chunkyhead> Dr_willis, ^
[21:05] <PuffTheMagicDrag> How do I tell it to use the entire volume?
[21:06] <PuffTheMagicDrag> As of yet, I haven't seen any such thing.
[21:06] <Lizards|Work> i'm not fluent with the 13.04 installer
[21:06] <chunkyhead> Dr_willis, any suggestions on how to detect those blockades
[21:06] <PuffTheMagicDrag> So it will be in the installer somewhere? I didn't miss it already?
[21:06] <chunkyhead> PuffTheMagicDrag, u just remove every partition there
[21:06] <Lizards|Work> it should ask where you want it installed or what kind of installation you want it to be
[21:06] <PuffTheMagicDrag> chunkyhead, is that something I can do after installation?
[21:07] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Nevermind, they made it stupid-friendly ;)
[21:07] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I got this... CLICK :D
[21:07] <chunkyhead> that's something to do during installation PuffTheMagicDrag
[21:07] <syn-ack> You know, I miss the days of fdisk, sometimes.
[21:07] <reisio> PuffTheMagicDrag: gj
[21:07] <chunkyhead> use gparted for after installation PuffTheMagicDrag
[21:07] <syn-ack> Just an observation.
[21:08] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Bye bye, Windows 8 :D
[21:08] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Never again shall Bill Gates extend his insidious control over me...
[21:08] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Muahahahah!!!
[21:08] <reisio> :p
[21:09] <syn-ack> PuffTheMagicDrag: Sure he will. You'll need skype and MSCoreFonts. :D
[21:09] <ihre> chunkyhead, check if your remote host blocks port 22 in the firewall, with something like sudo iptables -nL | grep 22 in a terminal, or run a portscan with nmap -Pn <sshserverip> from another host
[21:09] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Hah, I have no need for Skype.
[21:09] <PuffTheMagicDrag> And who types? Lame :D
[21:09] <syn-ack> I do.
[21:09] <Lizards|Work> nak
[21:11] <metacode> Hey guys, I am having a problem with my ubuntu 13.04. Can I ask for a solution here?
[21:11] <Lizards|Work> you can ask
[21:11] <rantic> metacode: No!
[21:11] <rantic> metacode: Of course
[21:12] <metacode> @rantic so where should I ask it?
[21:12] <ubuntivity> Guys, I have an old laptop with a broken screen, I have ubuntu server installed on it. I need it to have Video output to the external monitor by default. Is that possible?
[21:12] <rantic> metacode: I was being sarcastic, this is exactly where you should ask your question
[21:12] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Linux dance!! 0-\-<
[21:12] <Seth_> Hello guys, I'm having a bit of trouble with ubuntu. I was wondering if I could get some help
[21:12] <PuffTheMagicDrag> 0-/-<
[21:13] <Pessimist> Seth_, just ask
[21:13] <PuffTheMagicDrag> 0|-<
[21:13] <xangua> !ot | PuffTheMagic
[21:14] <metacode> Oh ok :P Ok so I can't get Bluetooth to work on my ubuntu 13.04. The weird thing is that it works when I use a DVD and choose 'try ubuntu'. But it doesn't work on the installed one
[21:14] <Seth_> So, I had Ubuntu 12.04 installed on a bootable flash drive
[21:14] <Seth_> I messed around with it, and decided I liked it
[21:14] <Seth_> I went to install it, and decided to partition it
[21:14] <Pessimist> !oneline | Seth_
[21:14] <Seth_> with windows 7
[21:14] <auronandace> !enter
[21:15] <Seth_> Installation was complete, and it told me i needed to restart the computer, so that my changes could be saved and what not
[21:15] <ubuntivity> Is it possible to turn off laptop screen once the system boots?
[21:16] <PuffTheMagicDrag> ... I think MAGIC is even more likely than that.
[21:16] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Wrong chat, sorry.
[21:17] <Seth_> Now, I have no option to boot ubuntu
[21:17] <metacode> I can't get Bluetooth to work on my ubuntu 13.04. The weird thing is that it works when I use a DVD and choose 'try ubuntu'. But it doesn't work on the installed one.
[21:17] <wilee-nilee> Seth_, Do you have more than one HD?
[21:17] <ubuntivity> !repeat | metacode
[21:17] <Lizards|Work> Seth_, are you sure you selected the correct disk for installation?
[21:18] <Seth_> I only have one harddrive
[21:18] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Anyone here have a recommended site or book they like to brush up on using Ubuntu very quickly? I don't mean a forum or something like that, I don't have specific questions and I'm not looking for specific answers. I'm just wondering if anyone has a tutorial site they like to send noobies to, who want to cut some time off their learning curve.
[21:18] <Lizards|Work> metacode, try enabling proprietary sources in software sources and updating. maybe your driver isn't the best option available
[21:18] <kalen> PuffTheMagicDrag: Ubuntu Made Easy is supposed to be pretty good. I think it was just updated not too long ago
[21:18] <robotti> is it so that bluetooth keyboard pairing is totally broken?
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> Seth_, On the live cd run this app the bootinfo summary only, and post the url generated. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:19] <Pessimist> How do you remove unity and all of it's related applications? (except lightdm)
[21:19] <kalen> PuffTheMagicDrag: http://nostarch.com/ubuntumadeeasy
[21:19] <xok> hello all...
[21:19] <genii> ubuntivity: You could try something like putting xset dpms force standby    ..in /etc/rc.local
[21:19] <xok> I have postfix on the ubuntu system and the logs are completely empty...
[21:19] <Seth_> okay, one moment
[21:19] <xok> can anyone help find where are they stored?..
[21:19] <wilee-nilee> Pessimist, Unity is a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome 3, what is your goal here?
[21:20] <zykotic10> Pessimist: my suggestion... don't bother.  just install whatever DE you want, and leaving Unity.  Breaking metapackages is a pain.  If you really wanted, start from mini, and don't install any of the *-desktop metapackages.
[21:20] <metacode> I did try a few threads but none of them worked. I also tried using some other driver but stil no luck. But if the driver was incompatible then why would it work in 'try ubuntu' mode?
[21:20] <evillase> would anyone be able to help with a compile error I receive on a UML linux kernel http://hastebin.com/rowuferigi.vbs
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> +1 for zykotic10
[21:21] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Oh yeah, Kalen ;) Forgot to thank you earlier, too. Thank you.
[21:21] <ubuntivity> genii: will that cause a system-standby?
[21:21] <kalen> PuffTheMagicDrag: no worries
[21:21] <ubuntivity> I want the computer to keep running, only the screen off to save power
[21:22] <Lizards|Work> metacode, just like the nvidia graphics driver work in try ubuntu but on reboot you're at a black screen because linux-source and linux-headers-generic weren't available to compile the nvidia driver
[21:22] <genii> ubuntivity: That will c ause the monitor to be in standby. So it will be off until someone uses something at the keyboard or uses the mouse/trackpad
[21:22] <xok> I have a postfix running on Ubuntu and it doesn't log in /var/log/mail.log
[21:22] <sim590> Hi. When I list /dev, I get a device called 'sdb' with no partitions (no sdb1, sdb2, ...) and there is not any USB devices connected.. The only device connected and that should be shown is my hard drive sda.. what's going on? How can I have more info about sdb? I did fdisk /dev/sdb, but it failed
[21:22] <ubuntivity> Nice, genii. But you know ubuntu server has NO X.org, so will it work either way?
[21:22] <xok> does anyone of you know where to search?..
[21:23] <genii> ubuntivity: You didn't specify server :)
[21:23] <metacode> So how to find out which driver to use?
[21:23] <ubuntivity> I specified :))
[21:24] <genii> ubuntivity: Ah, earlier, i see now.
[21:24] <ubuntivity> So, that "xset" is specific for X.org, right genii ?
[21:24] <Lizards|Work> metacode, superkey -> software & updates, the 'Additional Drivers' tab
[21:24] <Lizards|Work> check if there's options
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> sim590, run sudo fdisk -l
[21:24] <genii> ubuntivity: Yes, xset is for X
[21:25] <metacode> Lizards|work no its empty
[21:25] <sim590> wilee-nilee: well.. what is strange is that it appears and disappear
[21:26] <sim590> wilee-nilee: now it's not listed anymore.. I tried to fdisk and it said: no such file or directory..
[21:26] <Lizards|Work> metacode, i'm not sure which sources you need to enable, but i'm fairly certain you're missing the proprietary driver for it
[21:27] <genii> ubuntivity: You could try instead vbetool dpms <state> where state is on/off/standby/suspend
[21:27] <guest-rhszUU> Good afternoon everyone , ive been experiencing a slow performance on my ubuntu 12, it gets very hot when im using adobe flash player, and it just starts slowing down any help?
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> sim590, You have a disc reader or any cards plugged in or a floppy port, just a guess here.
[21:28] <xangua> guest-rhszUU: stop using adobe flash or use it the less necesary
[21:28] <metacode> Lizards|work, Ok I'll try getting more info about it and try some more threads. Thanks for help.
[21:28] <Lizards|Work> metacode, in Ubuntu Software in the Software & Updates, proprietary drivers for devices is the third checkbox
[21:29] <guest-rhszUU> its always running when im watching a video on my browser, any otrher alternative_
[21:29] <guest-rhszUU> ?
[21:29] <napsc> xok: look in /etc/syslog.conf     it should have the log locations and files
[21:30] <leftcase> guest-rhszUU - what's the CPU load (in top) when this is happening and what are the specs of the system you're using?
[21:30] <xok> napsc: I don't have such file there...
[21:30] <otak> guest-rhszUU: here's one alternative - https://www.youtube.com/html5
[21:30] <guest-rhszUU> cpu . only for browser w flash 58
[21:31] <sim590> wilee-nilee: there's nothing.. all dummies (dummy sdcard, ..)
[21:31] <LuckySMack> will this still work on raring server for chrooting users to their own dir? I want to allow users to ftp and non sudo'able ssh. http://www.howtoforge.com/restricting-users-to-sftp-plus-setting-up-chrooted-ssh-sftp-debian-squeeze
[21:31] <guest-rhszUU> thank you otak ill give it a try
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> sim590, Not sure, I don't understand the /dev to see this sdb
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> on occasion
[21:31] <xok> napsc: I have a /var/rsyslog.d/postfix.conf file which doesn't contain anything interesting...
[21:31] <leftcase> :-/
[21:31] <guest-rhszUU> apart of that the system gets a slow performance some times, can i regulate the fan for the proceso_
[21:32] <guest-rhszUU> can i regulate the fan of the CPU?
[21:32] <napsc> do you have /var/log?
[21:33] <xok> napsc: yes, I do...
[21:33] <leftcase> guest-rhszUU --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[21:33] <napsc> does it have mail.log inside?
[21:33] <xok> napsc: and it contains the file named mail.err and mail.log but those are completely empty...
[21:33] <sam101> Hi i have just swiped my existing Windows 7 installation with Ubuntu and now ubuntu 13.04 consists of so many bugs maybe i should go to the long term support one what do you guys think
[21:34] <xok> napsc: are you familiar with the rsyslog?...
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> sam101, Without any details on the breakage we can't really help, and that is an opinion.
[21:34] <energizer2> I just started getting some weird behavior in on google sites (maps and gmail so far). http://imgur.com/YQmjKLK
[21:34] <guest-rhszUU> thank you left case ill try that i dont know whats going on w the computer >*
[21:34] <xok> I see the configuration there pipes to xconsole..
[21:35] <xok> I think that's the reason...
[21:35] <energizer2> black lines like that move around the screen, and the top-bar (black) doesnt always appear as its supposed to
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> sam101, The main benefit of longterm is support 12.04 is 5 years.
[21:36] <sam101> its not one breakage its every time i install ubuntu from by usb it fails to get drivers from my wireless adapter then it crashes on ubuntu center but maybe its my usb stick because it was working fluently before
[21:36] <leftcase> guest-rhszUU that'll show you the speed of the sensor, but to control if you'll need something like the 'fancontrol' application
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> sam101, What's the wireless card? some need a terminal install.
[21:37] <Pessimist> I have installed kubuntu-desktop and it installed KDE like I wanted. But now that I want to remove KDE so I uninstall kubuntu-desktop but it only uninstalls the meta package. How do I uninstall KDE ?
[21:37] <sam101> Its belkin
[21:37] <Pessimist> My base is Ubuntu 13.04 so it should easy to do like installing it
[21:37] <napsc> do you have logging enabled?
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> sam101, THis a usb?
[21:37] <xangua> !pureubuntu | Pessimist
[21:38] <sam101> yes usb
[21:38] <geri> hi i look for a program to display the diff between 2 files
[21:38] <Pinkamena_D> can anyone see the css3d-effect at the top of this website? http://acko.net/ I have tried many versions of chrome including the dev one and it will not work
[21:38] <geri>  can someone recommend a gui based tool for ubuntu?
[21:38] <Lizards|Work> geri, vimdiff
[21:38] <jluc_> its an option in the global setup manager rosco_y
[21:38] <sam101> but its working fine now i just removed it and put it back in and its working
[21:38] <Pinkamena_D> It works fine on windows
[21:38] <jpds> geri: diff -Nurp file1 file2
[21:38] <jluc_> oups
[21:38] <wilee-nilee> sam101,Chances are 12.04 will do no better on the wireless, if its a usb run lsusb and find it and post the exact model, if you need.
[21:38] <leftcase> guest-rhszUU an ACPI compliant BIOS is supposed to control this but sometimes this doesn't work as it should. Google threw up this example of using fancontrol - I don't know if it's any good or not - http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed
[21:39] <xok> napsc: well, I think I do, how do I check?..
[21:39] <sam101> ok thanks and btw the adapter is working now i just took it out and plugged in again and it found it
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> sam101, Cool, you indicated it was sporadic it seemed, be sure to use nicks when answering others then we actually are informed you are talking to us.
[21:41] <sam101> Ok will do thanks
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> easy to miss posts is all. sam101
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[21:43] <xok> napsc: I found the reason, somehow log files were owned by "messagebus" instead of "syslog"...
[21:43] <xok> napsc: thans for helping me...
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> Pinkamena_D, without booting to windows can you describe the missing effect better, is it moving?
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> look 3d but static
[21:45] <wilee-nilee> looks*
[21:48] <dakta> Could someone direct me to an appropriate channel to ask for support in?
[21:48] <wN> dakta: this one.
[21:49] <wN> unless its about a specific technology. then perhaps they have a special room for that, but this is the usual catch-all channel
[21:49] <wilee-nilee> wN, Hardly this is ubuntu support
[21:49] <dakta> wN: Excellent.
[21:49] <wN> wilee-nilee: what.
[21:50] <wilee-nilee> not sure I can be clearer
[21:50] <wN> you could use punctionation for one.
[21:50] <dakta> I have a WD Green Power hard drive out of a bricked MyBook Live NAS device. I have two different SATA-USB interfaces: on a generic dongle type, one contained in an enclosure.
[21:50] <PuffTheMagicDrag> I have some questions about TOR on Ubuntu, is there a better place to ask?
[21:52] <wN> PuffTheMagicDrag: you can go ahead and ask your question, or try #tor
[21:52] <wN> PuffTheMagicDrag: https://www.torproject.org/about/contact.html.en#irc
[21:52] <wilee-nilee> !attitude | wN
[21:52] <Kevin`> is there somewhere I can adjust the timeout that applies to this? the server is down and it loves to choose it: 0% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (2001:67c:1562::13)]
[21:52] <wN> wilee-nilee: really? leave me alone. be helpful or shut up.
[21:53] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> wN, People who start out as jerks rarely improve.
[21:53] <wN> wilee-nilee: indeed. thats why i should stop talking to you :)
[21:53] <sam101> I have a lot of knowledge on tor fire away
[21:53] <wN> PuffTheMagicDrag: you coan try the irc at that link, or in that channel topic.
[21:53] <dakta> PuffTheMagicDrag: Helpful people in #tor... /s I'd help but I don't use TOR.
[21:53] <wilee-nilee> and not worth the hassle
[21:53] <wN> PuffTheMagicDrag: or just ask
[21:54] <dakta> So, does anyone know anything about hard drives?
[21:54] <wN> dakta: they're square right? well ig uess more rectangle.
[21:54] <Aprel> hi, just installed windows 8.1 on my ubuntu machine for dualboot. Yes, I was careful with partitions and ubuntu partition is still there, but 'sudo grub-install /dev/sda' returns Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.' Suggestions? I'm in the live cd now.
[21:54] <wN> dakta: you never actually asked a question.
[21:54] <Kevin`> dakta: you didn't ask a question, you just said you have a hard drive and usb adapters
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> dakta, You need to staet your problem for hep, not poll the channel. ;)
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> staye*
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, This a UEFI gpt setup?
[21:55] <dakta> wN: Just a mo'
[21:56] <matrixa1> http://igg.me/at/ubuntuedge/x/4082556 support Ubuntu Edge! :D
[21:56] <wN> dakta: i hope you're not checking the shape of the drive. i was only joking.
[21:56] <sam101> if its a gpt partion table or ms dos ubuntu partion doesnt read them accuretly
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[21:56] <sam101> tor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went t
[21:56] <sam101> o #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.<PuffTheMagicDrag> Went to #tor, redirected to nottor, no one active there.
[21:56] <FloodBot1> sam101: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[21:56] <wN> oh sam101, wrong paste!
[21:56] <Aprel> wilee-nilee: not 100% sure what that is, but I used to dualboot w Windows 7, just wrote over the Ubuntu partition. Dualboot worked fine w Win7.
[21:56] <genii> Hm.
[21:57] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Well, I can't ask the Tor question because I ran into another issue. Shut my laptop slightly, and now it
[21:57] <Kevin`> Aprel: you have to specify the boot/root directory when using grub-install from a different system
[21:57] <Aprel> ^^ Sorry, overwrote the *WINDOWS7* partition
[21:57] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Now it's flashing. Flashflash pause, flashflash pause. Just white screen. Also, sorry, didn't mean to hit enter
[21:57] <dakta> I've got a WD Green Power 2TB 3.5" SATA drive out of a bricked WD MyBook Live NAS device. I have two different SATA-USB interfaces, one a generic multipurpose dongle type and another contained in an enclosure. If I format the drive using one of those interfaces, everything works fine, up until I try to access the drive using the other interface. Then the drive appears unformatted and cannot be used unless it is formatting using that inte
[21:57] <dakta> becomes unusable on the other interface,
[21:57] <dakta> It's like some kind of interface-UUID lock protection mode on the drive or something.
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, Run this app from the live cd (only the bootinfo summary) and post the url generated. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:58] <Aprel> Kevin`: okay, can you please give an example command? Not sure what the boot/root dir is.
[21:58] <dakta> And I can't find any information about this.
[21:58] <Kevin`> dakta: show the exact size of the drive in bytes reported when using both interfaces
[21:58] <Naughx> --boot-directory=DIR
[21:58] <wilee-nilee> Kevin`, That command is correct when a mbr is used.
[21:58] <Pinkamena_D> wilee-nilee, I just looked back here after troubleshooting it manually
[21:58] <matrixa1> Aprel, i concur with wilee-nilee, you simply need to reinstall Grub, boot-repair will do that for you
[21:59] <Kevin`> wilee-nilee: boot repair is, grub-install run manually needs to know where to install to
[21:59] <Pinkamena_D> I just found the issue, that google chrome "blacklisted my gpu", but you can bypass this by going to chrome://flags
[21:59] <wilee-nilee> I would only run the bootinfo summary to begin with so we can see what's up. Aprel
[21:59] <Pinkamena_D> and toggle the top option
[22:00] <Pinkamena_D> strangly, we have the same gpu in most computers here at the school, including the windows ones, so I think its more of a chrome/ubuntu issue
[22:00] <napsc> xok: great.  sorry i was gone, tried to check a config i had, but don't use anymore. dont remember having problems with not logging.  usually logging too much
[22:00] <pepee> hey people, look at this and please add yourself to the report if you have problems:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1106855
[22:00] <pepee> to solve, add this repo:  https://launchpad.net/~brandonsnider/+archive/cdrtools
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> Kevin`, sda is the mbr, except for th e extra (') it is correct if this is a msdos partitioning.
[22:01] <Kevin`> pepee: last I heard cdrtools took a bad path in licensing, has that changed?
[22:01] <dakta> Kevin`: "2 TB (2,000,398,934,016 Bytes)" using the generic dongle, "2 TB (2,000,398,934,016 Bytes)". And yes, those bytes are the same.
[22:01] <pepee> Kevin`, no idea, I just found it
[22:01] <ubuntivity> Guys, I tried to play an MP3 file on my Ubuntu server using mpg123, I got the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909123/
[22:02] <xok> napsc: no problem, thanks anyway for helping me...
[22:02] <pepee> but the linked page says the problem is ficticious
[22:02] <Aprel> Okay, I'm getting the boot-repair binaries
[22:02] <pepee> Kevin`, ^
[22:02] <wN> dakta: i would have to see what the exit issue you're hitting to help you further. how are you trying to format these devices? how are you accessing them? but i gotta run. sorry.
[22:02]  * wN parts
[22:02] <dagerik> ubuntivity: install alsa
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, Your command though from the live cd is incorrect.
[22:03] <ubuntivity> OK, dagerik. I'll try that and be back :)
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> that is run in the install
[22:03] <Aprel> wilee-nilee: okay, how can I fix it?
[22:03] <dakta> wN: Ping me when you return, I'll let you know if I've solved it then.
[22:03] <Kevin`> pepee: that's the author's web site, and it doesn't list specifics
[22:04] <goddard> how can i install custom themes from gnome-looks.org?
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, Generallthe basic repair would fix it with the boot repair if you have standard partitioning, you can chroot in and run that command as well.
[22:04] <Kevin`> pepee: all it says is some company didn't have a problem with the license
[22:04] <dakta> wN: For the record, I've partitioned the drive using both Gparted and Apple's Disk Utility.app. I've tested other drives partitioned in the same manner on the same hardware using both dongles on the same hardware, and no problems like this.
[22:04] <pepee> well, no idea about that
[22:04] <Naughx> sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda (Note: Your ubuntu partition needs to be mounted at "/mnt")
[22:04] <pepee> Kevin`, but the thing is , ubuntu is shipping buggy code
[22:05] <Naughx> That's what I do when I reinstall grub
[22:05] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, The bootinfo summary will tell us the partitioning and boot info of W8.1
[22:05] <wN> dakta: im headed home from work, so i wont be back until tomorrow at 9am. however, perhaps you'll catch me lurking tonight. send me a pm and i'll remember
[22:05] <Kevin`> pepee: actually, the statement is redundant since he's using a sun license. which is odd because iirc the purpose of that license is to require contributions to be owned by sun while still being open-source-ish
[22:05] <dakta> wN: will do
[22:05] <Kevin`> pepee: then the bugs need to be fixed
[22:05] <Aprel> Naughx: Oh, I should mount the ubuntu partition?
[22:06] <Naughx> yes
[22:06] <ubuntivity> dagerik: I got the same error but this time starting with "[module.c:141] error: Failed to open module esd: file not found
[22:06] <test456> Hey guys, how to hide this dark frame inside window? http://screencloud.net/v/AGAp
[22:06] <pepee> Kevin`, yeah, but then, I'd have to: debug some thing I don't know about, and then wait for weeks or months to get the working software
[22:06] <Naughx> sudo mount /dev/sdaY /mnt (Replace Y by your ubuntu partition)
[22:06] <test456> in inactive window its hided
[22:06] <pepee> I prefer to add that repo and be done
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> Aprel, All you have been informed is here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[22:07] <Kevin`> pepee: well, it's possible. you can't combine cddl code with gpl code as the licenses are incompatible, but nothing prevents a cddl program from being provided on linux by itself
[22:07] <xibalba> how come some actions dont work well with sudo such as the following:
 that's one of my worst fears
[22:07] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Ubuntu 64bit, how do I see a list of currently running tasks?
[22:08] <xibalba> $ :> index.html
[22:08] <xibalba> -bash: index.html: Permission denied
[22:08] <Fishscene> My Ubuntu 13.04 x64 resumed from Standby just now... and apparently the appstore and firefox removed themselves and don't exist. How do I re-install the appstore?
[22:08] <xibalba> $ sudo :> index.html
[22:08] <xibalba> -bash: index.html: Permission denied
[22:08] <Lizards|Work> PuffTheMagicDrag, top
[22:08] <pepee> Kevin`, I'm not a programmer btw, and far from a lawyer
[22:08] <genii> xibalba: For one thing, index.html is probably not a shell file
[22:08] <xibalba> i should be able to truncate it though genii
[22:08] <pepee> anyway, thanks, but I'm just trying to help
[22:08] <xibalba> it's a file under /var/www
[22:09] <Aprel> Ah, thanks looks like Naughx's mount command then grub-install fixed it. It's just when I installed Win7 the first time I didn't remeber going through all these steps w grub, just like grub-install and it was done. All looks good now. Thanks!
[22:09] <alumno__> alguien que me ayude?
[22:09] <Aprel> alumno__: mejor hacer tu pregunta en #ubuntu-es para hablar en espanol
[22:10] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Puedo traducir, pero no se nada de ubuntu.
[22:10] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Oh... Es mejor que hace como dice Aprel ;)
[22:10] <dakta> y'all beat me to it.
[22:10] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Lizards|Work, found dashboard with recently used stuff... I think I'm missing a list of anything currently running in the background. I think I'm having Tor issues because there's already a copy running, I want to kill it.
[22:11] <Lizards|Work> ps aux | grep tor
[22:11] <pepee> !es | alumno__
[22:11] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Um. Dumb it down, please, Lizards|Work?
[22:11] <Lizards|Work> command line
[22:11] <pepee> Aprel, use the bot ;)
[22:12] <Aprel> pepee: heh, keep forgetting it has so many responses. :)
[22:13] <Lizards|Work> PuffTheMagicDrag, at command line, do "ps aux | grep 'tor'"
[22:13] <sigwhite> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 15z alongside Windows 8. I have managed to install 13.04 by booting in legacy (non-EFI) mode and managed to install GRUB in non-secure UEFI mode, but launching Ubuntu fails silently (freeze) after the "loading ram" message from GRUB.
[22:13] <Lizards|Work> that'll give you information about the existing tor process
[22:13] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Thanks...
[22:14] <Naughx> @Aprel :)
[22:14] <sigwhite> Also, I can't boot from the 13.04 live CD unless I'm in legacy bios mode.
[22:15] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Working! Time for me to crash out. Three wins with a computer in one day is pushing it. In a moment, it will pull a Live Free Die Hard and blow up my house.
[22:15] <ubuntivity> Guys, I have Ubuntu server and I need to play sound with it. I had installed alsa and mpg123, but when I try to play mp3 file using mpg123 I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909153/
[22:16] <genii> ubuntivity: Try mplayer
[22:17] <sigwhite> tl;dr: I'm on an UEFI Win8 notebook and want to dual-boot Ubuntu. How?
[22:17] <sigwhite> (Wiki isn't helping)
[22:17] <ubuntivity> going to do that, genii
[22:17] <PuffTheMagicDrag> You have to disable Secureboot.
[22:17] <PuffTheMagicDrag> Know how to, sigwhite?
[22:18] <ubuntivity> it want's to install 73 new packages!!! genii
[22:18] <ubuntivity> Isn't there something lighter, genii?
[22:19] <sigwhite> PuffTheMagicDrag: I disabled "secure boot" in the UEFI setup / bios. But that has nothing to do with Ubuntu not launching.
[22:20] <czuck> hi there, I added gedit to the list of startup applications but now when I start up I get 2 gedit menu bars: one where it should be and a second one just below it. Any ideas on what could be causing this?
[22:21] <genii> ubuntivity: There's also moc, but I'm not sure what kind of dependencies that has
[22:21] <sigwhite> /window 1
[22:21] <sigwhite> /window 2
[22:21] <sigwhite> /window 0
[22:21] <sigwhite> gah
[22:21] <FloodBot1> sigwhite: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:21] <ubuntivity> Is it neccessary for sound to play to have X.org installed? genii
[22:21] <Pinkamena_D> after you do "sudo su" how do you go back to a standard user?
[22:22] <bpietro> Pinkamena_D, exit
[22:22] <genii> ubuntivity: mplayer shouldn't require X, moc either
[22:22] <Aprel> ubuntivity: no, you just need sound package. I have a headless box that I play cds w all the time.
[22:22] <Pinkamena_D> thanks
[22:22] <trism> czuck: my guess would be gedit starts before the menuproxy is ready, so it defaults back to the one in the window, might try making a script and adding a few seconds of delay before starting gedit
[22:22] <Aprel> ubuntivity: alsa, for ex.
[22:22] <bpietro> :)
[22:23] <ubuntivity> I installed alsa, but mpg123 didnt play audio and the error was http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909153/
[22:23] <czuck> trism: thanks, I will try that right away
[22:23] <Aprel> ubuntibity: go to your alsa settings and make sure the mixer's volume isn't low. When alsa installed for me, valume was at 0 for some reason.
[22:24]  * ubuntivity is feeling audio-less!
[22:24] <ubuntivity> How to check alsa settings on command line?
[22:24] <sig_white> Okay, sorry about that. irssi threw up
[22:25] <tty> alsamixer &
[22:25] <otak> ubuntivity: alsamixer, also does this work: aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*.wav
[22:27] <ubuntivity> This is what I get, otak : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909179/
[22:27] <tryitharder> compiz is working but the window decoration is gone...
[22:27] <czuck_> trism: that worked, thanks very much
[22:27] <ubuntivity> When I try to aplay a wav file, I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/5909179/
[22:28] <czuck_> trism: bit hacky though... wish this could be done in sync
[22:28] <tty> sorry I meant just "alsamixer" no "&"
[22:29] <ubuntivity> tty, I doubt the volume is set to 0 since I'm getting an error trying to play files!
[22:29] <otak> ubuntivity: you can try sudo alsactl init
[22:29] <trism> czuck_: well, we are supposed to have indicators starting from upstart soon in either 13.10 or 14.04 so that would allow you to have a job that starts gedit with something like: start on started indicator-appmenu
[22:29] <sig_white> Here's what I spent the better part of the day on: 1. Getting the live cd to work (uefi+secure: fail, boot to windows; uefi+non-secure: fail, freeze on launch; win livecd "help": fail, Win8 boot loader error; non-uefi: success). 2. Installing Ubuntu (had to "fix" sda GPT with GParted, then installed root partition on SSD sdb). 3. Installing GRUB for EFI using livecd with boot-repair.
[22:29] <trism> czuck_: that's the idea anyway
[22:30] <ubuntivity> Did it otak, same error with aplay :(
[22:30] <czuck_> trism: understood, will wait for that update, in the meantime the delay will do just fine
[22:30] <napsc> ubuntivity: does it work as root?
[22:30] <czuck_> trism: thanks again
[22:30] <Aprel> ubuntivity: your log file suggests alsa can't find your sound card. You might be missing a driver/package.
[22:31] <ubuntivity> How to know if the kernel supports my audio device?
[22:31] <Lizards|Work> i don't remember if you need to modprobe or something
[22:31] <bpietro> sig_white, seems it was a busy day ;)
[22:31] <Kevin`> pepee: btw, do dvd burning with growisofs (yes, iso images too), i've never had a problem with it
[22:31] <sig_white> In order to install GRUB I had to boot in legacy mode to run the livecd. boot-repair luckily detected EFI nevertheless and asked me to install grub-efi... which failed because "source_dir doesn't exist" (google leads to bug report with no useful information other than "works as expected").
[22:32] <pepee> Kevin`, I just wasted 3 DVDs, and it seemed obvious that this was a software problem. and, yeah, it was
[22:32] <pepee> good thing I usually use google to search for similar bugs
[22:33] <Kevin`> pepee: that's why i'm offering the suggestion to use growisofs instead of wodim
[22:33] <pepee> ubuntu has teached me well in that sense...
[22:33] <pepee> ah k, sorry, dunno what's growisofs
[22:33] <bpietro> yes, I like UEFI, too :P
[22:33] <sig_white> Basically, after enduring this nonsense for hours (completely blowing up my boot loader by checking "secure boot" in boot-repair at one point) I flapped the BIOS back to UEFI+secure and wiped the Ubuntu partitions.
[22:34] <wN> dakta: ping
[22:34] <wN> dakta: figure it out?
[22:34] <pepee> Kevin`, "growisofs - combined genisoimage frontend/DVD recording program." isn't it the same?
[22:34] <Aprel> pepee: wodim is an old fork. http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html has more updated source code. Perhpas the updated version will work?
[22:34] <sig_white> I really only have one question: How can I do this properly, or failing that, how can I remove GRUB now that it's completely vestigial and only shows up in nonsecure mode anyway?
[22:34] <pepee> the problem is genisoimage, not k3b...
[22:34] <Kevin`> pepee: there ARE packages available for ubuntu unofficially, you've found, yes?  i've never had a problem though, and the author seems pretty hostile and has odd licensing terms, which means inclusion in debian is unlikely (ubuntu extras may be possible though)
[22:35] <Kevin`> pepee: you said you were using wodim for dvds, which it obviously doesn't work well for, not growisofs
[22:35] <pepee> Kevin`, yeah, I just added some ppa that has the package
[22:35] <pepee> Kevin`, bug report says it's a genisoimage bug
[22:35] <pepee> which affects everything else...
[22:36] <pepee> I don't really know about all this, I'm not a dev
[22:36] <goddard> how do you change system sounds?
[22:37] <pepee> but it seems obvious to me that that program is buggy, while the original one isn't
[22:37] <pepee> Aprel, I didn't try
[22:37] <bpietro> sorry, I don't know. I only red some articles, saying to myself "Thanks for not having UEFI box'
[22:37] <Kevin`> pepee: individuals can ignore the law, but public entities can't :/
[22:38] <pepee> I was going to try updating it, but I didn't, I found a quick and better solution
[22:38] <pepee> Kevin`, yeah, I know, but... are there alternatives, at least?
[22:39]  * sig_white taps his mike: "Is this thing on?"
[22:39] <Kevin`> pepee: alternatives suitible for inclusion into the main debian repo? I doubt it
[22:40] <patricia_> não estou conseguindo fazer minha impressora funcionar por que?
[22:41] <pepee> !br | patricia_
[22:41] <patricia_> ok obrigada
[22:43] <poz> i am having a problem with the dash
[22:43] <poz> it is not transparent
[22:44] <poz> i tryed the compiz config utility  but it fails to fix the problem
[22:44] <poz> anyone know how to manually edit the settings?
[22:47] <k1l> poz: use unity tweak tool, its in the repos since 13.04
[22:49] <poz> that fails to work too
[22:52] <Seth_> Hey guys, I just wanted to come back to say thank you. I finally got my computer partitioned and my boot up fixed, thanks to you guys. You all are awesome.
[22:53] <poz> Anyone know how to change the transparency of unity dash with out unity tweak utility or compiz config?
[22:55] <pepee> Kevin`, here it says you could distribute the source code: https://lwn.net/Articles/200374/
[22:55] <pepee> again, no idea, but if it's true... why not? AFAIK, you are already doing that
[22:55] <pepee> with some packages
[22:57] <Kevin`> pepee: cddl is a proper opensource licence, but you can't combine gpl and cddl code (or libraries) since the licenses are not compatible
[22:57] <Kevin`> pepee: there's no problem distributing binaries if they don't link with gpl code (I think there's exceptions for system stuff, I forget where)
[23:00] <guzzlefry> So, I was changing the theme in System Settings->Appearance (Gnome-shell), and my taskbar and friends disappeared.
[23:00] <guzzlefry> Any idea on how I can get them back?
[23:00] <Kevin`> pepee: refer the the previous comment. individuals (making their own packages) are free to ignore the law, but large public entities have to be very careful
[23:01] <pepee> oh well, I dunno :/
[23:01] <Kevin`> I wonder why he's using cddl in the first place, it sounds to me like the change was because of some stupid argument
[23:01] <doomlord> anyone know oof a text editor which does (a)horiz/vert splits (b)tabed windowing, per spli; (c) folding.  i know of gedit,jedit,kate which all handle 2/3
[23:02] <Kevin`> i'm sure the people who used to work at sun would LOVE to be able to remove the cddl from the zfs code, for example
[23:02] <Kevin`> and get it into linux
[23:02] <Kevin`> why anyone would intentionally create the incompatability..
[23:03] <jrib> doomlord: vim
[23:05] <doomlord> the thing about the guis is its reallyy easy to move panes around, i always forget the hotkeyys. i like the idea of vim though but always gravitate back to something with ctrl xcv bindings from the ground up
[23:06] <doomlord> had a spell of using emacs but ultimately its ctrl-g vs escape always bugs me, no matter  how much one rebinds
[23:07] <akronix> Hey! why a lot of times pictures in facebook doesn't load properly with firefox??
[23:07] <X-Sleepy-X> doomlord: dunno if geany supports all of your specifications but maybe...
[23:09] <doomlord> right now gedit is my default .. the tabbed ui, and i can open a few more root windows to get  'vertical splits', but folding would be nice.
[23:09] <satellit_e> what is the name for the install program in 12.04.2?  I need to install it
[23:10] <jrib> doomlord: gvim
[23:10] <X-Sleepy-X> satellit_e: are you thinking about synaptic?
[23:10] <iLogical> I can't select, although it's there in the menu and I click it,  in the Monitor of Built-in Analog Stereo...
[23:11] <iLogical> on pavucontroçl
[23:11] <satellit_e> no I think I needed ubiquity....
[23:11] <sig_white> Help! I want to dual-boot Ubuntu alongside Windows 8 with UEFI. I can only install Ubuntu from live CD in legacy (non-UEFI) mode and can't install grub-efi because "source_dir doesn't exist". Secure-mode toggle does nothing. Wat!?
[23:13] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | sig_white start here
[23:15] <doomlord> gvim looks pretty good, not sure it has the tabs and it doesnt come with my  prefereed bindngs out of the box ..i suspect i'd hae an emacslike experience with it
[23:15] <sig_white> MonkeyDust: I have started there and worked through that and it's not helping. The point at which I gave up was: GRUB working with UEFI enabled (but secure mode disabled), but freezing after "loading initial ramdisk...".
[23:16] <sig_white> MonkeyDust: I'm fairly certain the issue has something to do with grub-efi failing when I install it with apt-get as boot-repair tells me to do.
[23:19]  * rodrigograca31 waves hello
[23:19] <sig_white> MonkeyDust: Any other ideas? Most of the stuff I find out there is completely irrelevant because it assumes I can run the livecd in any mode other than pure legacy. I tried UEFI:true/true, UEFI:true/secure:false, UEFI:false (i.e. legacy mode), as well as the booting "help" in the windows autorun thing that's on the live CD. The ONLY way I could boot into the live CD was using Legacy.
[23:20] <holstein> sig_white: the "thing" on the cd is wubi.exe
[23:20] <holstein> !wubi
[23:20] <sig_white> holstein: irrelevant as it didn't work anyway.
[23:20] <holstein> sig_white: you'll need to be able to run some kind of installation media to install
[23:21] <MonkeyDust> sig_white  no, i have an old pc myself, not familiar enough with uefi
[23:21] <holstein> sig_white: its actualy quite relevant, since you are trying to install, and that is not a normal install
[23:21] <sig_white> holstein: Let me repeat that: I got the live cd to run by disabling uefi in the bios.
[23:21] <megrandpa> can anybody suggest a chromium addon to download videos from youtue
[23:21] <megrandpa> youtube*
[23:21] <holstein> sig_white: that is one way to run the installer. is that not an ecceptable way to continue?
[23:22] <sig_white> holstein: by simply disabling secure mode (but not uefi) I could run the live cd *menu*, but selecting install or "try ubuntu" just froze.
[23:22] <holstein> megrandpa: no... you can ask the content creator, or search around
[23:22] <holstein> !nomodeset | sig_white
[23:22] <holstein> ^^ i would try that from the live CD.. you could be experiencing hardware support issues relating to your graphics card that have nothing to do with UEFI
[23:22] <sig_white> holstein: I managed to install Ubuntu, but it didn't give me a way to boot into it because the setup couldn't install a bootloader (grub failed).
[23:23] <holstein> sig_white: from the install you made, that i assume you dont know if it works, or will boot a graphical environment
[23:23] <holstein> sig_white: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[23:24] <sig_white> holstein: That would be a possibility. Would that explain why GRUB freezes with this?: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-WEUvjd6msdw/UfAU0oEFfTI/AAAAAAAAAL4/mqV-0dkY_Gg/w680-h510-no/24.07.13+-+1
[23:24] <akronix> anyone knows if gedit is available for xubuntu??
[23:24] <holstein> akronix: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. the same repos. sudo apt-get install gedit
[23:24] <kostkon> megrandpa, if you are also looking for a desktop app, this here is fine https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/allvideodownloader/
[23:24] <akronix> via software center i can't install it
[23:25] <holstein> sig_white: did you install grub or not?
[23:25] <sig_white> holstein: I installed from live cd in legacy mode, then ran the live cd in legacy mode and ran boot-repair, which detected the efi, but when it told me to run a couple of shell commands to install grub-efi, grub-efi failed to install because the post-install script is broken (according to the only bug report I could find), which leads me to believe grub wasn't installed correctly by boot-repair.
[23:26] <sig_white> Installing with the live cd's "install ubuntu" ended with grub failing to install. I had to install grub with boot-repair later (using the live cd in legacy mode again).
[23:27] <ubuntivity> guys, how can I run a command through ssh that remains running even when my ssh gets disconnected?
[23:27] <sig_white> Oh, and at one point I managed to install grub-pc instead and that let me run neither Ubuntu nor Windows, which was fun.
[23:27] <zykotic10> akronix: terminal "apt-cache policy gedit"
[23:27] <syn-ack> ubuntivity: screen.
[23:27] <ubuntivity> what does screen do?
[23:27] <zykotic10> syn-ack: honestly, i'd suggest tmux over screen these days YMMV ;)
[23:27] <ubuntivity> I tried tmux once
[23:27] <akronix> oks, thanks, i'll try both...
[23:27] <jrib> ubuntivity: if you don't care about output or returning to the screen where you launched it, COMMAND & disown.  If you care about output, nohup COMMAND.  If you want to reattach to the screen, either "screen COMMAND" or "tmux COMMAND".
[23:27] <syn-ack> haven't played with it, zykotic10
[23:28] <Guest98194> Hey all, would anyone be able to walk me through installing ubuntu on a Barebone Computer? Just now getting into the Ubuntu scene and I don't wanna mess up my first try or anything like that.
[23:28] <syn-ack> ubuntivity: it's like tmux
[23:28] <jrib> ubuntivity: tmux is screen's younger, more hip brother
[23:28] <syn-ack> I'm a bit old fashioned, apparently.
[23:28] <jrib> see ^
[23:28] <zykotic10> syn-ack: it's different!  but much more modern - once i switched it to screen keybindings life was grand again ;)
[23:29] <ubuntivity> so, I can reattach using tmux command, right?
[23:29]  * jrib will not ask zykotic10 if "screen keybindings" == ctrl-a so as not to be disappointed
[23:29] <jrib> ubuntivity: tmux attach
[23:29] <ubuntivity> but what if I have two tmux-ed COMMAND that are the same? getting over-obsessive here!)
[23:29] <megrandpa> kostkon, i will try it
[23:29] <jrib> ubuntivity: tmux ls, tmux -t blah attach
[23:30] <jrib> ubuntivity: or maybe tmux attach -t blah (based on my history)
[23:30] <sig_white> holstein: The ubuntuforums are down, which is part of the reason Google isn't being very helpful with this.
[23:30] <ubuntivity> I'll try to mess around with man tmux
[23:30] <ubuntivity> Why both Ubuntu forums AND Apple developers site are down at the same time?
[23:31] <zykotic10> syn-ack: and anyone else reading - the ONLY downside to tmux is that it's BSD licensed.  so if GPL is an issue... other then that (and the fact screen does physical serial connections) tmux rocks.  jrib i try many more keybinding then that ;)  but that's the first one [i guess NOT good if you use emacs... but i'm a vi-guy ;)]
[23:31] <ubuntivity> are there any recent server vulnerabilities??
[23:31] <akronix> lol, apple developers is down too?
[23:31] <jrib> zykotic10: but readline...
[23:32] <holstein> sig_white: well, we know the cd's and iso's work.. you can always ask the manufacturer how you are supposed to use the system
[23:32] <zykotic10> jrib: also an issue! yes.
[23:32] <ubuntivity> yes akronix, and they (themselves) said that some userdata were exposed, and they are extending the duration of apps availability on their store during this downtime
[23:33] <syn-ack> What
[23:33] <zykotic10> jrib: my brain just can't switch to ^b... ^a is "natural" at this point - years of using screen, has warped my brain.
[23:33] <syn-ack> what's wrong with the BSD license?
[23:33] <syn-ack> I prefer it over the GPL.
[23:33] <akronix> but userdata of apple developers were exposed too?? OMG that's not serious for apple
[23:33] <jrib> zykotic10: ^b is also bad.  Personally I use alt-space
[23:33] <zykotic10> syn-ack: non-copyleft [OT issue here!]
[23:34] <ubuntivity> They declared that for sake of "transparency" I remember!
[23:34] <sig_white> holstein: I am serious. "sudo apt-get install grub-efi" fails with "source_dir doesn't exist", as will "grub-install" afterwards. This isn't a weird manufacturer quirk. There's even a Launchpad ticket mentioning it. The only problem is that neither the manpage nor any of the tickets or Google results indicate what this message means or how to fix it.
[23:34] <w30> Guest98194, don't leave so fast first of all !!!
[23:35] <syn-ack> zykotic10: You're the one who brought it up....