[03:42] <rfxcasey> ziroday, how do I save this
[03:42] <tyl> is it exactly the same as 32 bit pakages?
[03:42] <WebcamWonder> tyl, Your repositories would be different.  Repos are same, just there are different builds
[03:42] <actionfigure> anyone?
[03:42] <tyl> how do i know if i have installed the x64 version
[03:42] <WIGGMPk> Can someone please take a screenshot, save it, open the properties and check what it opens with? Or just tell me if you already know? My file associations are f'ed up bad and Im not sure how to fix them
[03:43] <killerbyte> please can somebody tell me can you use the gui in ubuntu to set up file systems on internal hard drives to automount?
[03:43] <tyl> WebcamWonder:  wait in that case are the packages called different names?
[03:43] <rfxcasey> ziroday, now I got no video signal to my monitor
[03:43] <WebcamWonder> ziroday, That is weird. On one of their changelogs, they say that my card's support is added
[03:43] <ziroday> WIGGMPk: the default gnome screenshot app takes .png files
[03:43] <Skry^> Munchkinguy, actually i'm not sure afterall if it's on by default :P check system > preferences > appearance > visual effects. if its something else than none, then it is.
[03:43] <WIGGMPk> ziroday: i know that, but what is .png file associate with?
[03:43] <pangloss> Alfalfaz: you have to restore grub
[03:43] <WebcamWonder> tyl, No. The package names are same. However, your OS will automatically fetch the correct package based on your distrubution
[03:43] <ziroday> WebcamWonder: you sure its a GeforceGo?
[03:43] <andrewfree_> I have emerald themer and a theme installed in it, how to i use it, because i cant figure it out?
[03:43] <Bullterd> Does anyone know a FTP client for ubuntu server that would let me "bind" it to a certain interface ?
[03:43] <ziroday> WIGGMPk: eye of gnome (eog)
[03:43] <WIGGMPk> ziroday: what command opens up the image previewer or whatever the default app is
[03:44] <tyl> ahh i see thx
[03:44] <Alfalfaz> pangloss: what?
[03:44] <WebcamWonder> ziroday, Yup. Re-read it once again just to be sure
[03:44] <pangloss> !grub | Alfalfaz
[03:44] <tyl> WebcamWonder: but how do i tell if a package is the 64 bit version?
[03:44] <WIGGMPk> ziroday: thanks, you wouldnt happen to know how my file associates got screwed and how to fix them?
[03:44] <killerbyte> i have tried pysdm storage device manager
[03:44] <WebcamWonder> ziroday, I already have the drivers installed through Envy. But they are too buggy
[03:44] <ziroday> WIGGMPk: nope
[03:44] <andrewfree_> I have emerald themer and a theme installed in it, how to i use it, because i cant figure it out?
[03:44] <WebcamWonder> tyl, It usually has things appended to the name. E.g. x386 is 32 bit
[03:44] <pangloss> Alfalfaz: your master boot record is borked. follow the RestoreGrub link
[03:45] <Led_Hed> I just installed 8.10 desktop (64bit). When I apt-get install mdadm it wants to install citadel-server along with it.  Why would a RAID tool need a Groupware Server?
[03:45] <WebcamWonder> tyl, Arghhh... i386... sorry
[03:45] <ziroday> rfxcasey: erm try doing auto monitor adjust on your screen
[03:45] <rfxcasey> ziroday,  says fatal error no screens found
[03:45] <tyl> WebcamWonder: how do i call up the name and what is the 64 bit name?
[03:45] <ziroday> rfxcasey: okay, above that anything?
[03:45] <sergiu> anyone know any widget for ubuntu to show the weather ?)
[03:45] <WebcamWonder> tyl, Are you trying to install from the repositories?
[03:45] <ziroday> sergiu: there is something called screenlets which does that
[03:45] <dexter> tyl; suppose u dont have reqd package for x64...and it available only for 32 bit....still u can forcibly install it...nd it works fyn
[03:46] <sergiu> ziroday,thanks
[03:46] <scotlfs> ok I got most of my things working now, thanx everyone for their help as provided...Here is a fun one, what do I need to make the videos on NBC.com playable...i.e. Heroes episodes for example
[03:46] <rfxcasey> ziroday, failed to load module vesa module does not exist adn it says no drivers availible
[03:46] <tyl> WebcamWonder: well some of the repositories that i maybe getting are not inside the official repos
[03:46] <hot_wheelz> anyone here running a Huawei E960 Wireless Gateway?
[03:46] <andrewfree_> I have emerald themer and a theme installed in it, how to i use it, because i cant figure it out?
[03:46] <ziroday> rfxcasey: but you said Driver "nvidia". Do you know how to pastebin your xorg.conf from the command line?
[03:46] <Skry^> Led_Hed, it's dependency for something else. i have mdadm installed, no citadel-server anywhere
[03:46] <Alfalfaz> pangloss: I havent said I have lost windows
[03:46] <pangloss> scotlfs: have you installed mozilla flash-plugin?
[03:47] <WebcamWonder> tyl, If they have the 64bit build, it would be present as the same package name. It is the job of apt-get to figure out the correct build for your pc. Normally there are about 5 different builds for 1 single package
[03:47] <tyl> dexter: i know that but i am trying to make sure all the packages are 64 bit on my server
[03:47] <scotlfs> pang: yes
[03:47] <dexter> tyl; u can install those softwares which are not in ur repos by adding the APT line
[03:47] <dexter> tyl;okk
[03:47] <Led_Hed> Skry^, Its a clean install,  why would Desktop want Citadel
[03:47] <pangloss> Alfalfaz: I know, but your MBR is messed up if it cant find menu.lst
[03:47] <scotlfs> pangloss: yes I have
[03:48] <tyl> ok thx i'll go and test out stuff now
[03:48] <dexter> tyl;;; ur repos will contain automatically 64 bit.....unless u forcibly install 32-bit versions
[03:48] <roffe> ziroday: Painless installation. Works perfect! Thanks a lot.
[03:48] <Alfalfaz> pangloss: ?  I think you are reffering to someone else
[03:48] <ziroday> roffe: wonderful!
[03:48] <Person12345> Alfalfaz: pangloss: I'm also missing grub/menu.lst on boot, ubuntu hardy 32bit xp dual boot
[03:49] <Alfalfaz> My screen goes dark when I watch movies. I have power management settings off. I can still hear sound and SSH to it, but the problem persist through restarting X as well. Only thing that helps is reboot. I got Xubuntu 32 bit on intel gma945 and C2D 1.8 ghz with 4 gb  ram. Using intreprid.
[03:49] <andrewfree_> can anyone help me?
[03:49] <scotlfs> pangloss: the funny thing is, I can view the 2 minute previews, but the full episodes of ANY show on NBC won't play
[03:49] <Alfalfaz> pangloss: thats my issue
[03:49] <pangloss> Alfalfaz: whoops! lol
[03:49] <andrewfree_> this is a very basic question
[03:49] <ziroday> rfxcasey: install the package pastebinit and then do less /etc/X11/xorg,conf | pastebinit
[03:49] <Munchkinguy> Skry^: Thanks for the tip
[03:49] <pangloss> !grub | Person12345
[03:49] <Skry^> Led_Hed, dunno. but sounds kinda weird. I have 64-bit 8.10 too and i've had no problems installing mdadm.
[03:49] <WebcamWonder> !anyone | andrewfree_
[03:49] <billybigrigger> how come when i hit the ¨´¨ key and preśś a býtton it uŕńś'out like this???
[03:49] <rfxcasey> ziroday, I have no gui and I am pretty new at this
[03:49] <hot_wheelz> i guees not
[03:49] <billybigrigger> how do i change my keyboard layout im in canada not russia
[03:50] <ziroday> rfxcasey: no worries. Type in sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:50] <Led_Hed> Skry^, I had a similar problem apt-get remove OpenOffice.org   it wanted to remove Gnome-Panel
[03:50] <ziroday> rfxcasey: when thats done do less /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit
[03:50] <ziroday> rfxcasey: and give us the link it outputs :)
[03:50] <andrewfree_> I need to use a theme in emerald theme manager, but i dont know how to apply it, because i cant get it to show up.
[03:50] <WebcamWonder> billybigrigger, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard ?
[03:50] <mintsoup> if an x11 app crashes is there any place on the filesystem where the crash might be documented
[03:50] <smalleyes> i have an audio cd in my disc drive. how do i convert into mp3?
[03:51] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, Did you install the theme from emerald?
[03:51] <billybigrigger> WebcamWonder, ya i have it set on generic 105 key
[03:51] <smalleyes> is there a program installed by default to convert audio cd into mp3?
[03:51] <billybigrigger> WebcamWonder, and i have standard us keyboard layout selected
[03:51] <andrewfree_> No from gnome-look and opened and imported it into emerald
[03:51] <rfxcasey> ziroday, ok its installing
[03:51] <ziroday> rfxcasey: great
[03:51] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, And it still doesn't show up in emerald's list after import?
[03:52] <WebcamWonder> billybigrigger, Hold on
[03:52] <billybigrigger> WebcamWonder, its ok
[03:52] <ziroday> WebcamWonder: which card did you have again?
[03:52] <billybigrigger> WebcamWonder, i had the wrong usa layout
[03:52] <andrewfree_> WebcamWonder: It does show up in the list, but it will not work
[03:52] <Person12345> hello all, ubuntu hardy 32bit missing grub/menu.lst out of the blue, did not just reinstall windows, ubuntu just crashed out of the blue. Any help please?
[03:52] <WebcamWonder> ziroday, GeForce go 6150
[03:52] <rfxcasey> ziroday,  ok I typed what you said now what I am at a funny screen
[03:52] <ziroday> rfxcasey: eh?
[03:52] <scotlfs> Does anyone know what special something must be configured to get full episode videos to play from nbc.com? I know that's a strange question, but full episodes won't load....the 2 minutes shorts work fine, they seem to load up in a normal applet, but the full episodes use a different web interface, and I am not sure what i need to do to get them to load
[03:52] <pangloss> Person12345: restore your grub
[03:53] <ziroday> WebcamWonder: the nvidia-glx-177 package should do it
[03:53] <Person12345> pangloss: is there a way to do that without overwriting my windows boot
[03:53] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, Have you actually tried starting emerald? Or are you still on the default Human theme?
[03:53] <rfxcasey> ziroday, how does this pastebinit work
[03:53] <Led_Hed> Skry^, its a known bug.   Bug #280414:
[03:53] <WebcamWonder> ziroday, That is weird. I have 173 installed
[03:53] <andrewfree_> WebcamWonder: Better question, how do i start it?
[03:53] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, ALT + F2 => emerald --replace
[03:54] <ziroday> rfxcasey: it simple. type in the command less /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit and it will output a hyperlink
[03:54] <rfxcasey> ziroday, it says (end) -next: pastebinit
[03:54] <step21> scotlfs: make sure you're in the US for a start?
[03:54] <ziroday> WebcamWonder: that should be fine as well, I honestly have no idea what the difference is
[03:54] <pangloss> Person12345: did you read the howto I sent you??? its ok to overwrite the windows bootloader and use grub
[03:54] <dian> dodol
[03:54] <ziroday> rfxcasey: erm you are in a terminal correct?
[03:54] <pangloss> Person12345: youre not overwriting windows.....
[03:54] <rfxcasey> yeah
[03:55] <rfxcasey> yea
[03:55] <rfxcasey> ziroday, yea
[03:55] <dian> oi
[03:55] <WebcamWonder> ziroday, Looking around in launchpad. I see I am affected by a lot of bugs related to Window decorations and various glitches. I just wandered if I am not on the wrong drivers or anything
[03:55] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, Did it work?
[03:55] <w0ls0n> nope, shouting didn't work
[03:55] <ce_qiut> oi jua
[03:55] <ziroday> rfxcasey: okay, and you typed in less /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit exactly. Note | is shift \ under the backspace key on most keyboards
[03:55] <step21> scotlfs: also make sure you're using the latest flashplayer. not sure if this actually works on linux, just used it on os x and windows
[03:55] <Lisa1> please help I can not alter backlight settings in ubuntu, I tried xbacklight, spicctrl, and brightness under powermanagement also doesn't work, please help my eyes are starting to hurt
[03:56] <Skry^> Led_Hed, hmh, strange that i have not noticed that.
[03:56] <dodol> oi
[03:56] <dodol> oi
[03:56] <rfxcasey> ziroday, on I forgot the |
[03:56] <ziroday> WebcamWonder: well you can always try the -177 drivers and see if they improve it any
[03:56] <WebcamWonder> ziroday, hmm. On hardy, after removal of Envy should I force instal the nvidia-glx-new-177?
[03:56] <Person12345> pangloss: I did not get a howto from you, but I've found one, thanks for the help.
[03:56] <Led_Hed> Skry^, maybe it only effects specific scenarios. Who knows.
[03:56] <pangloss> !grub > Person12345
[03:57] <rfxcasey> ziroday, ok http://pastebin.com/f70e0f7fc
[03:57] <dd_deargod> ao ao aoooo
[03:57] <ce_qiut> hello
[03:57] <pangloss> !hi | ce_qiut
[03:57] <Skry^> Led_Hed, might be. well, i guess that one will be fixed pretty soon as it's packaging bug.
[03:57] <dian> #semarang
[03:57] <Person12345> pangloss, got it, thanks muchly!
[03:57] <esac> if anybody has ever used OneNote, I want the screen clipping functionality in linux. I just want to hit a shortcut key (Super+S for example), select an area of screen, and then it would save it as a screenshot. any ideas what can do that ?
[03:57] <chvnx> Hey guys, I'm having trouble installing the game AssaultCube.  I've followed all instructions that Google provided but nothing is working.  Anyone have a tutorial that actually works?
[03:58] <andrewfree_> WebcamWonder: Working with one keyboard and mouse =D i said unable to locate theme engin in the module_path: "aurora"
[03:58] <andrewfree_> it said*
[03:58] <ce_qiut> helo
[03:58] <ziroday> rfxcasey: try putting Driver "nvidia" under the Identifier option
[03:59] <rfxcasey> ziroday, any ideas
[03:59] <beddamatrix> hello
[03:59] <dd_deargod> halo
[03:59] <pangloss> !hi | beddamatrix
[03:59] <beddamatrix> please the italian chat
[03:59] <rww> !it | beddamatrix
[04:00] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, Atleast you now know howto "activate" emerald :)
[04:00] <compu73rg33k> Is RSA an encription cipher? Or is it an algorithm? if so what's the difference? can anyone refer me to a channel when I'm told I'm being off topic? :P
[04:00] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, Those are mostly based on whether your version of emerald supports these nifty themes or not
[04:00] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, engines*
[04:00] <pangloss> compu73rg33k: /join RSA
[04:01] <pangloss> compu73rg33k: /join #rsa
[04:01] <rww> compu73rg33k: cipher means encryption/decryption alcorithm
[04:01] <rww> algorithm **
[04:01] <rfxcasey> ziroday, I typed startx and got a blank screen
[04:01] <ziroday> rfxcasey: no login area?
[04:01] <ziroday> rfxcasey: no errors?
[04:01] <rfxcasey> ziroday, I am rebooting
[04:02] <rfxcasey> ziroday, no video signal to monitor or I guess out of range
[04:02] <Brainy> What's the easiest way to tell if a live cd I have is the 64 bit or 32 bit version?
[04:02] <compu73rg33k> thanks rww  and pangloss
[04:02] <DanaG> Oh hey, what benefit does 64-bit give over 32-bit?
[04:02] <izzy200198> i need help with this one. i installed 8.10 as a dualboot on xp machine. when install completed and the machine rebooted there was no grub menu and just went into xp
[04:02] <compu73rg33k> no one in #rsa :(
[04:03] <compu73rg33k> #encryption is invite-only too for some odd reason
[04:03] <DanaG> For a system with just exactly 4 gigs of RAM.
[04:03] <rfxcasey> ziroday,  how can I generate a proper xorg.conf
[04:03] <rww> !grub | izzy200198
[04:04] <izzy200198> no windows installed first. ubuntu installed second. never saw a grub menu
[04:04] <rfxcasey> ziroday, reboot i can hear the sound but no screen
[04:04] <rww> izzy200198: follow the steps anyway. they should still work
[04:04] <rfxcasey> ziroday,  I am restarting in recovery mode
[04:04] <izzy200198> but how can i do that if i cant boot into ubuntu
[04:04] <izzy200198> i cant use terminal
[04:05] <rww> izzy200198: "1. Boot the Desktop/Live CD.
[04:05] <Starnestommy> .21
[04:05] <Starnestommy> oops
[04:05] <izzy200198> ah ok
[04:05] <rfxcasey> I really need help getting my video working
[04:06] <scotlfs> So does anyone know how to get NBC episodes to play ?
[04:06] <Brainy> What's the easiest way to tell if a live cd I have is the 64 bit or 32 bit version?
[04:06] <rfxcasey> it was working fine till I save my xorg conf now the xorg conf is practically empty and I have no signal to the monitor
[04:07] <WebcamWonder> Brainy, Is it burned? Is it ISO? Are you booted into the LiveCD?
[04:07] <rww> Brainy: boot it up and do "uname -a" from a terminal. If it's 64-bit, "x86_64" will be near the end of the output
[04:07] <rww> Brainy: there's probably an easier way, but I don't have a live CD handy to check
[04:07] <Skry^> rfxcasey, nvidia?
[04:08] <KyPoHja> dmraid
[04:08] <gavagai> I have a core 2 duo.  should i stick with the 32 bit ubuntu or 64 bit?
[04:08] <Grey_Loki> gavagai, depends how much RAM you have
[04:08] <DanaG> good question.  What benefit does 64-bit give, anyway?
[04:08] <w0ls0n> 64 bit would prob be faster
[04:08] <DanaG> I'll be using 4 gigs.
[04:08] <rww> gavagai: you could use either (core 2 supports 64-bit). it depends on whether you need the benefits of 64-bit or not ;-)
[04:09] <DanaG> What _are_ those benefits?
[04:09] <KyPoHja> 64 bit is for prositutes
[04:09] <w0ls0n> FAST?
[04:09] <rww> DanaG: if you're just doing normal desktop work, not much. I use 64-bit because I do distributed computing and have an SSSE3-optimized client for it =/
[04:10] <Skry^> gavagai, i'd go with 64-bit, as you have 64-bit cpu and your gonna upgrade to 8 gigs anyways ;)
[04:10] <gavagai> i have 2 gig ram
[04:10] <Brainy> Thanks :D
[04:10] <KyPoHja> i have 5
[04:10] <KyPoHja> :P
[04:10] <rww> gavagai: stick with 32-bit, then
[04:10] <KyPoHja> i have 6"
[04:10] <skyjumper> is root-on-LVM broken for anyone else in the latest intrepid kernel?
[04:10] <davelbarton> OK, I have a foolish newbie question: what is jaunty?  Is it something to which I should upgrade?
[04:11] <pw-toxic> hi
[04:11] <Halow> !jaunty | davelbarton
[04:11] <KyPoHja> bye
[04:11] <gavagai> rww, is that the only reason to go 64 bit?  all i do is office stuff and play counter strike really
[04:11] <rww> davelbarton: it's the next version of Ubuntu, and is in the early stages of development. No, you shouldn't upgrade to it.
[04:11] <KyPoHja> can i install vista on ubuntu 8.10?
[04:11] <pw-toxic> my emerald doesnt start by default. so i have to type emerald --replace into my console... how can i do this automatically?
[04:11] <davelbarton> Thank you, Halow.
[04:11] <davelbarton> Andn thank you, rww.  Got it.
[04:11] <KyPoHja> can i install itunes and saphari
[04:11] <rww> gavagai: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit#32_vs_64_bit
[04:11] <gavagai> thanks
[04:12] <KyPoHja> can i watch pr0n
[04:12] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Are you using compiz?
[04:12] <Skry^> sure
[04:12] <pw-toxic> yes
[04:12] <w0ls0n> KyPoHja, URL kplsthnx
[04:12] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: yes
[04:12] <w0ls0n> LOL
[04:12] <davelbarton> Thanks again, everyone.  Good night.
[04:12] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, In the Advanced Desktop Effect Settings, goto the Window Decoration plugin, in the window decorator you would have gtk-decorator
[04:13] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, change that to => emerald --replace
[04:13] <KyPoHja> !wine
[04:13] <KyPoHja> !jerk
[04:13] <mindframe-> under the new network management utility, what does "system setting" signify?
[04:13] <KyPoHja> !vagina
[04:13] <KyPoHja> !money
[04:13] <WebcamWonder> !language | KyPoHja
[04:13] <KyPoHja> !sex
[04:13] <rww> !fishing | KyPoHja
[04:14] <KyPoHja> !obama
[04:14] <KyPoHja> !iosama
[04:14] <KyPoHja> !io
[04:14] <KyPoHja> !java
[04:14] <KyPoHja> !dmraid
[04:14] <rww> !fishing > KyPoHja
[04:14] <KyPoHja> !raid
[04:14] <FloodBot2> ubottu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:15] <the_newbie> does anyone here knows if there is any simulation software for electrical engineering?
[04:15] <KyPoHja> !raid
[04:15] <KyPoHja> !linux
[04:15] <hanasaki> what is the difference between nvidia 6 and the 6150 and are both supported ?  with acceleration?
[04:15] <Brainy> !fishing >Brainy
[04:15] <KyPoHja> !nvidia
[04:15] <skyjumper> !fishing
[04:15] <KyPoHja> !fichinh
[04:15] <WebcamWonder> the_newbie, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuScience <= this should list most of them
[04:15] <rww> mindframe-: looks like it makes the setting system-wide, rather than just for your user
[04:15] <MurielGodoi> Hi all, my notebook is not recognizing my HP TV tuner pcmcia card. Not is listed at lspcmcia, Any suggestions?
[04:15] <hardcore> myspace is a memory hog, is there any way around that?
[04:15] <mindframe-> oh ok
[04:15] <KyPoHja> !start
[04:16] <the_newbie> WebcamWonder, thanks ;)
[04:16] <KyPoHja> !kill
[04:16] <mindframe-> thanks rww
[04:16] <rww> KyPoHja: Stop abusing the bot, please.
[04:16] <hanasaki> thanks KyPoHja however i am curious which is a better chipset?
[04:16] <KyPoHja> !gnome
[04:16] <WebcamWonder> the_newbie, Glad to help! :)
[04:16] <KyPoHja> !kde
[04:16] <KyPoHja> !gnome
[04:16] <KyPoHja> !kde
[04:16] <KyPoHja> !gnome
[04:16] <FloodBot2> KyPoHja: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:16] <KyPoHja> !kde
[04:16] <hardcore> thank you
[04:17] <rsvp> didn't know this:  screen will FREEZE when the hard drive is reallocating bad sectors << esp prior to drive crash!
[04:17] <KurtKraut> Does anyone know a SIP client that is not crashy ? ekiga/twinkle/linphone are so buggy that I can't even connect to my SIP server.
[04:17] <Zuwer> Just curious, is there any web server thing I can get for Ubuntu, I have only used Ubuntu for about a day now
[04:17] <Pnux> !dns
[04:18] <rww> !info apache | Zuwer
[04:18] <Pnux> !change dns
[04:18] <rww> !info apache2 | Zuwer
[04:18] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: do you mean the entry "command" where /usr/bin/compiz-decorator normally is entered?
[04:18] <Zuwer> ?
[04:18] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Yes. You can just replace that with "emerald" (without quotes). No need for the --replace I told you earlier
[04:18] <ohdamnallnics> anyway to see what my onboard video (not in use) and soundcard are?
[04:18] <rww> Zuwer: try the apache2 package. It's a very popular webserver
[04:19] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: do i have to restart x then?
[04:19] <mlline00> !rsa
[04:19] <KyPoHja> zubuntu
[04:19] <Zuwer> k ty
[04:19] <WIGGMPk> Can anyone help me? My file associations are borked. png images open with "Firefox" "Sunbird Calendar" instead of Eye of Gnome. Debian packages have NO association, compressed files no longer associate with file-roller. Something is happening and running "update-mime-database ~/.local/share/mime" does not help
[04:19] <KyPoHja> !child
[04:19] <rww> ohdamnallnics: Enter lspci into a terminal. It might have the info you need.
[04:19] <bazhang> KyPoHja, stop
[04:19] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Nope. You can do a emerald --replace for now. And on next Gdm start, compiz will call emerald rather than the regular Window decorator
[04:20] <KyPoHja> WIGGMPk: there are properties for each files, you can select app
[04:20] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: ok then ill try this be restarting my x-server
[04:20] <droopsta915> where are my temp internet files stored
[04:20] <novato_br> how to install RMVB on the ubuntu 8.10?
[04:20] <hardcore> is there a way to make myspace pages load faster?
[04:21] <ohdamnallnics> hardcore, no, not really,
[04:21] <novato_br> !rmvb
[04:21] <WIGGMPk> KyPoHja: i know, but when opening properties and selecting the "Open With" tab on lets say a debian package. it does not show gdebi-gtk or gdebi... for compressed files it does not show the option for file-roller.. I have to manually add the command.. which with the fear of sounding lazy, is not something I want to do with every type of file. I shouldnt have to
[04:21] <novato_br> !rm
[04:22] <KyPoHja>     Hoću, braćo, to sam i došao.
[04:22] <KyPoHja>     Ja sam mnoga zažega kanđela
[04:22] <KyPoHja>     na oltaru crkve pravoslavne,
[04:22] <KyPoHja>     pa sam slijep doša među vama
[04:22] <FloodBot2> KyPoHja: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:22] <KyPoHja>     da podžežem, koliko uzmogu,
[04:22] <KyPoHja>     i vaš oganj sveti na oltaru,
[04:22] <bazhang> KyPoHja, english
[04:22] <w0ls0n> og dude shut up
[04:22] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: works ;) thx
[04:22] <rww> !spam | KyPoHja
[04:22] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, No problem. Glad to help :)
[04:23] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: <3 noButton template ;)
[04:23] <auk> so i upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10 just now
[04:23] <hitman1985> hi guys, what could be the reason that ubuntu just halts (non responsive) after restart (happens only when i start pidgin) random times
[04:23] <hitman1985> im still runing 8.04:)
[04:23] <rsvp> SMART hard drive failure prediction is only about 30%  reliable per wikipedia
[04:24] <WIGGMPk> KyPoHja: any other thoughts?
[04:24] <auk> and it *completely* f*ked up my graphics config
[04:24] <bazhang> auk, no cursing here
[04:24] <auk> sorry i thought starring it was enough
[04:25] <Brucevdk> If anybody has extensive experience with setting up permissions on locally shared folders between multiple users, e.g. using traditional UGO permissions or POSIX ACLs could one take a look at the following thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=975488 The problem is that when copying files into the shared folder, the permissions of those files are preserved (denying other people access in certain cases).
[04:25] <Doitle2> Is there perhaps a way to remote desktop into an ubuntu install from Windows?
[04:25] <rww> !vnc | Doitle2
[04:26] <rww> Doitle2: install a VNC server on the ubuntu install, then use a vnc client on the windows computer
[04:26] <auk> anyway...any suggestions? i can get the resolution right for my user account, but it won't last past a reboot
[04:26] <hitman1985> Nov  8 20:09:56 hitme-linux1 dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.nis_domain
[04:26] <Doitle2> ah alright thanks I'll look into that
[04:26] <w0ls0n> thats a damn waste of a rollercoaster
[04:27] <KyPoHja> ought down a throne and made all Hell to quake!
[04:27] <KyPoHja> Yet Milosh fell, most marvellous of knights,
[04:27] <KyPoHja> A victim fell unto the world's great Scourge.
[04:27] <KyPoHja> In proud repose the puissant Leader lies:
[04:27] <FloodBot2> KyPoHja: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:27] <andrewfree_> WebcamWonder: Hey sorry i was helping someone out with their comp,  but i still have that emerald problem, and i left before i could see what you had to say about it.
[04:27] <WebcamWonder> Brucevdk, I am just a noob. But the man page of "cp" allows you to specify which attributes not to copy. It says you can specify permissions
[04:27] <Brucevdk> WebcamWonder: uh huh, I don't control the end user (only the server) :-)
[04:27] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, No problem. You might want to try some other theme and see if it gives you the same problem
[04:28] <KurtKraut> I don't want to sound disrespectful but... can anyone really use Ekiga ? It is so buggy that it is barely usable.
[04:29] <will__> hello?
[04:29] <auk> hi
[04:29] <Myyoga> hi
[04:29] <Alfalfaz> Could someone help me, my screen goes dark when I watch movies. I have power management settings off. I can still hear sound and SSH to it, but the problem persist through restarting X as well. Only thing that helps is reboot. Please help me, it is driving me nuts. I got Xubuntu 32 bit on intel gma945 and C2D 1.8 ghz with 4 gb  ram. Using intreprid.
[04:29] <Halow> !hi will
[04:29] <Alfalfaz> it happends with 64bit as well
[04:29] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: what player?
[04:30] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: oh wait, it goes completely dark? Like off?
[04:30] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: xmbc
[04:30] <will__> I'm having trouble setting up a lamp server on ubuntu desktop edition. Anybody have any help?
[04:30] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: not off, screen is still ON, but its dark
[04:30] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: but it's system-wide? Not application specific?
[04:30] <rww> will__: what's the problem you're having? Perhaps someone else has seen the same thing and can help :)
[04:30] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: dunno
[04:30] <koi> 3
[04:30] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: can you CTRL + ALT + F1?
[04:31] <Alfalfaz> gonna try
[04:31] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: yes
[04:31] <Alfalfaz> that worked
[04:31] <andrewfree_> WebcamWonder: Same thing, i load the theme then go into terminal and do emerald --replace and get the same error
[04:31] <Alfalfaz> but I cant restary X
[04:31] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: how do you mean "you can't"?
[04:31] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: I can do it, but it wont show anything
[04:31] <step21> or do ctrl + alt + backspace ???
[04:31] <Alfalfaz> I Did.
[04:31] <Alfalfaz> still dark
[04:31] <will__> I've setup the server properly. It works with localhost and <IP_ADDRESS>, but does not work externally from the network i'm on. I have also forwarded the ports 80 and 433 to the server computer.
[04:31] <Alfalfaz> but ctrl alt f1 shows something
[04:32] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, It can't find the aurora engine?
[04:32] <andrewfree_> WebcamWonder: Correct
[04:32] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: interesting, what exactly is this XMBC? Is it on top of your existing distro/window environment etc.?
[04:32] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, Hold up
[04:32] <step21> will__: probably some kinda firewall active? also why do you use desktop edition for a server?
[04:32] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: xbox media center
[04:33] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: but is GNOME still running?
[04:33] <andrewfree_> WebcamWonder: (emerald:7478): gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engin in the module_path: "aurora".
[04:33] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: Xfce
[04:33] <andrewfree_> just to give you the full error
[04:33] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: yes
[04:33] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, Oh yes. I think you need to install the aurora engine. Hold on
[04:33] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: in case of GNOME one thing I'd try was to login to the TTY on F1, then do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[04:33] <andrewfree_> Its it in yum? WebcamWonder
[04:34] <andrewfree_> Do i even have yum?
[04:34] <andrewfree_> XD let me check
[04:34] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, YOu would have apt in Ubuntu. Hold on let me check
[04:34] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: I did that, still dark
[04:34] <Alfalfaz> now tty dissapeared.. Its the same thing as doiung ctrl alt backspace
[04:34] <will__> setp21: i did try to use the server edition but when i installed the package ubuntu-desktop so i could use GNOME it worked but the display drivers would not install correctly.
[04:34] <Shoopuf> Does Visual Studio work in Ubuntu?
[04:34] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: tty disapeared?
[04:35] <Myyoga> Hey im having some big issues with running Nexuiz at my native resolution (1280*1024). It jumps back and forth between my desktop and fullscreen mode, and I cant do anything. I cant even get into the game long enough to change the settings to something that I know works(1024*768). Is there main system folder(bin, etc ... ) in the filesystem that I would be able to find the configuration settings and then manually change the running re
[04:35] <Myyoga> solution?
[04:35] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: as in screen went dark again after restarting GDM
[04:35] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: but the tty is still available right?
[04:35] <Shoopuf> I want to switch to Ubuntu completely but one of my classes requires Visual Studio (Visual Basic)... So not sure if I should completely uninstall Windows yet.
[04:35] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: after doing ctrl alt f1.. yes
[04:35] <spowney> hey, can anyone tell me how to access network computer shares via the terminal?
[04:35] <MurielGodoi> Brucevdk: Is there a way to load just 2 tty instead 6 as defalt?
[04:35] <Brucevdk> MurielGodoi: yes, but I don't know from the top of my head how
[04:35] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: what video card/drivers you using?
[04:36] <Alfalfaz> intel gma945
[04:36] <Alfalfaz> Could someone help me, my screen goes dark when I watch movies. I have power management settings off. I can still hear sound and SSH to it, but the problem persist through restarting X as well. Only thing that helps is reboot. Please help me, it is driving me nuts. I got Xubuntu 32 bit on intel gma945 and C2D 1.8 ghz with 4 gb  ram. Using intreprid.
[04:36] <rww> Myyoga: it's probably in your home folder. Open it up in the file manager and press Ctrl-h to show hidden files and folders. There's probably something like .nexuiz in there.
[04:36] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: ah yes :)
[04:36] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, Ok. Apparently. Google search says that it isn't in repos
[04:36] <Myyoga> rww: thank you I will try that
[04:36] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: does this only happen with XMBC?
[04:36] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: I hve also tried typing xset s noblank s 0 0 -dpms off
[04:37] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: yes
[04:37] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: so you can play something with say VLC for example and it doesn't happen? It also doesn't happen automatically only when you play movies using XMBC?
[04:37] <Eulalia> When I open Firefox and Chatzilla, if I try do anything else, ma laptop completely freezes (sometimes the caps and scroll lock buttons flash). I just installed ubuntu today, and it's frozen quite a few times. Anyone know why? :\
[04:37] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: Hard to tell really :(
[04:37] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: I am gonna try that later
[04:37] <andrewfree_> WebcamWonder: I know i just checked and no find
[04:38] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=896322 <= giving out a deb. I don't know if it will work or not
[04:38] <n8tuser> MurielGodoi-> you can remove entries in /etc/event.d/tty3-6
[04:38] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: I'm pretty much out of ideas for the time being :)
[04:38] <MurielGodoi> n8tuser: w00t! thanks
[04:38] <andrewfree_> WebcamWonder: I dont know how to open a deb
[04:39] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: come to think of it it might be a resolution problem
[04:39] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, Download to desktop.  Do all of the programs that are installed on your operating system have configuration data stored as hidden files in your home folder?
[04:42] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: how about $ DISPLAY=":0" xrandr -s 1? :-)
[04:42] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: my tv telling me "mode not supported now"
[04:42] <rww> Myyoga: lots of them, yes. You can use that ctrl-h shortcut and look through :)
[04:42] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: how about just $ DISPLAY=":0" xrandr
[04:43] <Shoopuf> Anyone gotten Visual Studio to run in a VM or WINE in Ubuntu? I need to use it for my class, but don't want to dual boot
[04:43] <ronnie> f
[04:43] <[[cE][tO> _pooh
[04:43] <ronnie> ..
[04:43] <rww> !appdb | Shoopuf
[04:43] <WebcamWonder> Shoopuf, There is a high probability it won't work
[04:43] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1360 x 768, maximum 1680 x 1680
[04:43] <Alfalfaz> VGA disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[04:43] <ville__> Hello anyone in here that uses gpsdrive?
[04:43] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: take a look at man xrandr, see if there's anything in there that might help
[04:44] <[[cE][tO> pooh
[04:44] <andrewfree_> WebcamWonder: Tried first one, installed it, then ran the command emerald --replace and hit return... nothing after that, but no error either
[04:44] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: nah :/ gonna reinstall
[04:44] <Rave1_>   v
[04:44] <brak014> does anyone here have ubuntu on a dell inspiron 6000 with an ATI video card?
[04:44] <e\ectro_> is there anyway to do a chroot install of ubuntu onto a different partition without having to take the system down and boot off the cd-rom?
[04:44] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: heh :)
[04:44] <xjkx> sound doesnt work after closig rhythmbox
[04:44] <Alfalfaz> Brucevdk: thanks for your help, if you find a solution mail me at<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:44] <xjkx> how do i restore
[04:45] <Brucevdk> Alfalfaz: sure thing, good luck
[04:45] <Alfalfaz> Im gonna reinstall (running irssi on the machine)
[04:45] <Alfalfaz> so cya
[04:45] <Alfalfaz> thanks
[04:45] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, In the emerald theme manager, when you edit the theme, does the aurora show up undert the list of engines?
[04:45] <Alfalfaz> bye
[04:45] <FloodBot2> Alfalfaz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:45] <Roey> how do I swap devices?  i.e. I want /dev/video0 <-> /dev/video1...
[04:46] <xjkx> alsaconf command not found
[04:46] <ville__> Hello anyone in here that uses gpsdrive?
[04:46] <Brucevdk> Roey: if nobody answers you, you might want to look into udev
[04:46] <Shoopuf> Thank you
[04:46] <xjkx> sound isnt working
[04:46] <Brucevdk> ville__: somebody might, but it's best if you just state your question
[04:47] <robert__> i'm looking for a way to image, clone, or entirely backup ubuntu 8.1
[04:47] <Roey> Brucevdk:  ok, thanks
[04:47] <rww> !backup | robert__
[04:47] <bazhang> !backup | robert__
[04:47] <brak014> so my problem is this: when i have windows running and my computer is hooked up to a TV via s-video and i run a video the TV automatically goes full screen but my main monitor shows the player in a window and i can minimize it and the tv stays full screen, i tried this with ubuntu but it doesnt work what do i need to configure in order to have what happens on windows happen with ubuntu
[04:47] <andrewfree_> WebcamWonder: Nope, but if i change it to something else "reloading..." comes up under where i ran the emerald --replace command
[04:47] <hellhound_> is there any program that will allow me to save a web search, remove duplicate domains, and research once a day and email me or somehow advise me when there is a new site that meets my search criteria?
[04:47] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, And if you select any other theme in Emerald, does it work?
[04:47] <xjkx> how to configure sound
[04:48] <storm-zen> I'd like to know the same thing, xjkx...
[04:48] <andrewfree_> If i just select it does that apply it>
[04:48] <Brucevdk> hellhound_: you could relatively easily write one yourself
[04:48] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, Yes
[04:48] <robert__> thanks ubottu
[04:48] <rsvp> there's an outsource program I heard about in New Delhi...
[04:48] <xjkx> storm-zen: noone knows :s
[04:48] <rsvp> ;)
[04:48] <hellhound_> Brucee, how?
[04:49] <esac> if anybody has ever used OneNote, I want the screen clipping functionality in linux. I just want to hit a shortcut key (Super+S for example), select an area of screen, and then it would save it as a screenshot. any ideas what can do that ?
[04:49] <storm-zen> that appears to be the case, xjkx.  How long have you been trying to figure it out.  Sound on Linux is a mess, right now...
[04:49] <hellhound_> Brucevdk, how?
[04:49] <storm-zen> *figure it out?
[04:49] <Brucevdk> hellhound_: Python + Google Search API
[04:49] <rsvp> esac, I would first try google Notebook widget in your browser
[04:49] <wos> could someone tell me how to execute this command: deb     http://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor <DISTRIBUTION> main
[04:50] <hellhound_> Brucevdk, what is python?
[04:50] <ville__> Ok I Installed gpsdrive but when I try to run it I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/69493/
[04:50] <rsvp> a very smart snake
[04:50] <rsvp> ;)
[04:50] <Brucevdk> hellhound_: it's a programming language :-) I might take back what I said about "relatively easy"
[04:50] <bazhang> rsvp, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:50] <wos> could someone tell me how to execute this command: deb     http://mirror.noreply.org/pub/tor <DISTRIBUTION> main
[04:50] <rsvp> I forget to add the smilely
[04:50] <Brucevdk> hellhound_: it's relatively easy to hire someone to write you that program though
[04:51] <hellhound_> Brucevdk, LOL ok,but you do not know of a program that already exists right?
[04:51] <rww> wos: open System > Admininstration > Software Sources. Click the "Third-Party Software" tab. Click Add.... Copy that line into the prompt that comes up, changing <DISTRIBUTION> to whatever your distribution is (if you're not sure, ask and I'll show you how to find it).
[04:51] <Brucevdk> hellhound_: not without Googling no
[04:51] <hellhound_> Brucevdk, thank you :)
[04:51] <Brucevdk> hellhound_: actually I do
[04:52] <Brucevdk> hellhound_: there's Google Alerts
[04:52] <Cycom> hey, did the latest nvidia drivers cure that issue with the tearing along window borders?
[04:52] <Eulalia> I just installed ubuntu today, and when I open Firefox and chatzilla, and try to do anything (ANYTHING) else, it freezes mu laptop.
[04:52] <Eulalia> *my
[04:52] <mintsoup> is nonfree-flash-plugin known to be really crashy in 8.10?
[04:52] <storm-zen> esac: Are you running gnome?
[04:52] <Eulalia> I don't assume that's supposed to happen?
[04:52] <Doonz> evening all
[04:52] <andrewfree_> WebcamWonder: Nope, none of the engines work
[04:52] <Brucevdk> hellhound_: tell me if that works for you
[04:52] <Doonz> Ok have a few questions
[04:52] <Doonz> ok just one
[04:53] <Doonz> How do i move  one software raid array from one system onto another
[04:53] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, That is odd. So what do you have as your window decorations right now?
[04:53] <rww> mintsoup: it's very variable in quality. Works fine for some people, doesn't work at all for others
[04:53] <xjkx> storm-zen: not that long
[04:53] <andrewfree_> apearance then like some osx looking one i found
[04:53] <rww> mintsoup: It's non-free, closed-source software, so we can't improve it much :(
[04:54] <hellhound_> Brucevdk, trying it now.
[04:54] <storm-zen> esac: Anyway, gnome has a screen capture applet.
[04:54] <mintsoup> rww: do you think that hand-installing the package from adobe would be a worthwhile thing to do, or should i just try to use gnash or whatever that free version is..
[04:54] <xjkx> its a simple question i guess, but at this time people are sleeping or something
[04:54] <Lifesf> Hi; would anyone here happen to know why gproftpd (gadmin-proftpd) crashes automatically after opening?
[04:54] <andrewfree_> WebcamWonder: Just a theme using the default window decorator
[04:54] <paul> im needing some help, i tryed to upgrade to latest ubuntu server build, and the installion failed, ever since, my file system has become read only, iv been needing to remount the hdd each time the box restarts to get it working again, anyone help me fix this?
[04:55] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, hmm. Looking at my list. All my themes are vrunner based.
[04:55] <ubuntu> hi
[04:55] <storm-zen> xjkx: No, it's not really a simple question.
[04:55] <andrewfree_> I have that engine
[04:55] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, Is there any particular you are looking at?
[04:55] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, theme*
[04:55] <xjkx> storm-zen: why not :P
[04:55] <Burns7634> Any idea on fixes for the joystick issue plaguing 64bit versions of 8.10?
[04:56] <wos> how do you spell the latest release of ubuntu
[04:56] <chivafighter> someone speaks Spanish?
[04:56] <wos> intrepid?
[04:56] <WebcamWonder> wos, Yes
[04:56] <arooni> # Download and install the MySQL Connector/J -- for connecting to a MySQL database server from Java. .... is that libmsql-java ? (on ubuntu hardy)
[04:56] <storm-zen> xjkx: It can be, depending on seemingly random factors, but sound is a strange, sticky issue for some... for one thing, there are multiple mixer settings that sometimes come into play.
[04:56] <stormhell> boa noite
[04:56] <rww> !es | chivafighter
[04:57] <mintsoup> does anyone know of a way to get video playback to work well when running compiz on newer ati cards
[04:57] <storm-zen> esac: If you feel like just trying something, you can start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller
[04:57] <andrewfree> mmk i kept having to switch keyboards WebcamWonder now im on linux
[04:57] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree, Ok. So is there a specific theme you are looking at?
[04:58] <rww> mintsoup: you could try gnash, but it's kinda a mess. I'd go with flashplugin-nonfree as a first option, and possibly Adobe as a second option (though I haven't installed from Adobe's package before)
[04:58] <chivafighter> thank you very much rww
[04:58] <andrewfree> WebcamWonder, nope, just one that looks nice
[04:58] <quittt> !mount
[04:58] <quittt> how do I make my partitions mount automatically?
[04:58] <andrewfree> I changed my theme in appearance preferences to the default
[04:58] <storm-zen> !sound
[04:58] <andrewfree> quittt, write a script using the command mount
[04:58] <andrewfree> and set it to run on boot
[04:59] <mintsoup> quittt: edit /etc/fstab
[04:59] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree. emerald has never done that to me. It crashes with me a lot, but never done that
[04:59] <WebcamWonder> !fstab | quittt
[05:00] <mintsoup> fancy
[05:00] <Doonz> How do i move  one software raid array from one system onto another
[05:00] <mintsoup> doonz, did you try google
[05:00] <Lifesf> Hi; would anyone here happen to know why gproftpd (gadmin-proftpd) crashes automatically after opening?
[05:00] <Lifesf>  I have not been able to use it at all; I think the last time i was able to use it was when i was running, i believe it was gutsy
[05:01] <Eulalia> I just installed ubuntu today, and when I open Firefox and chatzilla, and try to do anything (ANYTHING) else, it freezes mu laptop. :|
[05:01] <Doonz> im on dialup atm
[05:01] <Doonz> web isnt my friend
[05:01] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree, Just to make sure. Are you on compiz?
[05:01] <mintsoup> Doonz, use elinks ;p
[05:01] <andrewfree> 0.o WebcamWonder not sure
[05:02] <lucax> mmm i have some problems with wallpaper-tray... does it use any acron thing?
[05:02] <tarelerulz> I have mess up 3 dvdr trying to burn the Ubuntu 8.10 iso . One just burnt the file and it would not boot.  I don't think getting a new dvd iso burning program would work .  How would I fix the dvd burn  drive itself.
[05:02] <Doonz> was hoping someone could just point me to a post in the forum
[05:02] <andrewfree> My graphics card sucks and cant even use effects with compiz
[05:02] <bruenig> lucax: no idea but I would guess not as that would be a silly design
[05:03] <arooni> and also if i've done the package installation libmsyql-java (j connector for mysql)... how would i adjust classpath to be set appropriately?    "shell> export set CLASSPATH=/path/mysql-connector-java-[ver]-bin.jar:$CLASSPATH"
[05:03] <lucax> bruenig, i have it running, but doesnt change the wallpaper in the time i set
[05:03] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree, I don't know if you can use emerald without compiz or not.
[05:04] <andrewfree_> how do i use compiz
[05:04] <andrewfree_> it should be installed defualt
[05:04] <Eulalia> I just installed ubuntu today, and when I open Firefox and chatzilla, and try to do anything (ANYTHING) else, it freezes mu laptop. :| Anyone know why?
[05:05] <tarelerulz> I have had 3 differnet dvd burning  program fail .  I try to burn the Ubuntu iso to a dvdr .  What can I do ?
[05:05] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree_, Ok apparently, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=502540
[05:05] <bamball> Eulalia: is the harddisk led when it freezes?
[05:06] <bruenig> lucax: read the source figure out what's up
[05:06] <Eulalia> bamball: Excuse my ignorance, but what's that mean?
[05:06] <lucax> bruenig, im just a regular user :)
[05:06] <russianphysicist> hi all, I'm trying to reinstall Grub but I keep on getting Error 15: file not fount. I'm not sure where to find my /boot, despite the numerous howtos on the forums. I'm on the LiveCD for 8.04 right now
[05:06] <Brucevdk> arooni: you still having problems?
[05:07] <bamball> Eulalia: sorry i meant was the harddisk LED remained lit when ur computer froze?
[05:07] <arooni> Brucee, havnet tried compling yet;  so not sure ;p
[05:07] <bruenig> lucax: it's all very logical, you will pick it up
[05:07] <Eulalia> bamball, yeah, it does. The mouse freezes, and nothing happens.
[05:07] <chilli0> hello all
[05:08] <chilli0> Help Eulalia Now
[05:08] <chilli0> or els
[05:08] <bamball> Eulaia: i had a similar issue, there was something wrong with my harddisk controller
[05:08] <andrewfree> WebcamWonder, just reinstalled compiz fusion
[05:08] <lucax> bruenig, haha yeah right
[05:09] <bamball> all i did was (a) update BIOS, (b) updated firefox
[05:09] <Kumquats> when using nm-connection-editor, I have an entry named "ifupdown (wlan0)" that I can't delete or edit, how do I fix this?
[05:09] <Eulalia> bamball: How do I updates BIOS?
[05:09] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree, Ok. If you try to activate it, does it work?
[05:09] <andrewfree> how do i do that XD
[05:09] <seaoftea> hey pidgen ain't bad
[05:09] <bamball> Eulalia : do u have a Nvidia chipset?
[05:09] <seaoftea> cool
[05:10]  * andrewfree takes out terminal
[05:10] <bamball> some nvidia chipset are known to be problematic
[05:10] <Eulalia> bamball, I'm not sure. How do I check?
[05:10] <Lifesf> gproftpd segmentation fault problem!!! Help!
[05:11] <bamball> Eulalia: try sudo lshw | less
[05:11] <AJ_Z0> New 8.10 install and trying to establish wireless connection. Card (Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5100) seems to be working and driver iwlagn is attached. I have a wlan0 interface. The Gnome Network Manager (which I had to install) doesn't seem to offer any way to connect to a wireless network, just an entry "[-] Wireless Connection / Roaming Mode enabled"
[05:11] <Venin> how to install net::pcap?
[05:11] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree, Sorry, i missed your post. Goto appearence, effects and turn on the effects
[05:11] <seaoftea> I accidentally removed the standard gnome network monitor applet from the top bar and am wondering how to get it back.  The one in the "add to panel" dialog box isn't the same one.
[05:12] <Eulalia> bamball, I can't use my linux atm (it won't work with my wireless card :\ ) But what should I look for after I type sudo lshw | less ?
[05:12] <Sweetandy> 8.10 comes with build-essential preinstalled! I love Canonical and the developers around the world!!
[05:12] <andrewfree> WebcamWonder, Desktop effects cant be enabled
[05:12] <WebcamWonder> seaoftea, nm-applet? I haven't used it quite some time now. But I think that is the name of the applet
[05:12] <seaoftea> Sweetandy: Mine didn't come with build-essential preinstalled
[05:13] <russianphysicist> hi all, I'm trying to reinstall Grub but I keep on getting Error 15: file not fount. I'm not sure where to find my /boot, despite the numerous howtos on the forums. I'm on the LiveCD for 8.04 right now
[05:13] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree, Sorry. That means your graphics card isn't probably supported
[05:13] <andrewfree> thought so
[05:13] <n8tuser> seaoftea-> on system--preferences--main menu  look for the menu entry for it
[05:13] <andrewfree> XD there was a box of em, and i grabbed the biggest one cuz i had to hurry up
[05:13] <andrewfree> should of got an nvidia one
[05:13] <Sweetandy> seaoftea: The LiveCD, anyway.
[05:13] <seaoftea> ahhh, lol.    I personally disabled them after 2 weeks, thinking why I should waste 1 second seeing my window minimize
[05:14] <seaoftea> thanx n8tuser
[05:15] <seaoftea> IDK about U, but I love the desktop effects
[05:15] <seaoftea> Better than mac and vista
[05:15] <dr_willis> WebcamWonder,  or watch the 'wiggly windows' maxamize effect.. get stuck. and stay wiggling for 10+min. :)
[05:15] <leohartx> how do i install psx and pcsx 2 ?
[05:15] <lucax> anyother app for changin wallpapers but wallpaper-tray?
[05:15] <mintsoup> dr_willis wiggly windows is one of the effects that is totally pointless and i always turn it off
[05:15] <dr_willis> I can think of 2 features of compiz i like. the mazamize, and the preview in panel features
[05:15] <WebcamWonder> dr_willis, Seriously. Wobbly Windows is the worst plugin to be ever created in terms of regular day productivity :p
[05:15] <sambagirl> everytime i do something it says host not recognized or something like that. i thought the computer name was the hostname?
[05:15] <andrewfree> WebcamWonder, Yea pretty cool
[05:16] <andrewfree> ill wait for the cool stuff thou like wobbly windows when i get a new mobo and card
[05:16] <mintsoup> there are several compiz plugins though which I feel do improve the useability of gnome
[05:16] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> open an xterm while on liveCD and get into root mode and type grub
[05:16] <dr_willis> Wobly windows made my wife Nausaus. :)
[05:16] <Kumquats> my wife hates wobbly windows with a passion
[05:16] <seaoftea> "Road Warrior" on spike tv
[05:16] <andrewfree> nehalem here i come =D  thanks for the help WebcamWonder
[05:16] <J-a-k-e> Hi all, aside from getting a logitech squeezebox or something like that. Can anyone tell me if the sound quality in ubuntu compares to that of windows xp?
[05:16] <seaoftea> watch it noa!
[05:16] <WebcamWonder> dr_willis, Haha. No problem. Glad to help :)
[05:16] <n8tuser> sambagirl-> look at your entries in /etc/hosts
[05:16] <andrewfree> Im out!!!
[05:17] <WebcamWonder> dr_willis, That is a nice idea. Maybe I should turn that on, so I can get the PC to myself as well :p
[05:17] <xorlim> JackWinter: I like the sound quality of Ubuntu.
[05:17] <andrewfree> off to solve css problems
[05:17] <mintsoup> J-a-k-e why wouldn't it?..
[05:17] <WebcamWonder> andrewfree, Bye!
[05:17] <sambagirl> it says unable  to resolve host jaguar
[05:17] <seaoftea> Anyone know anything about wireless internet security?
[05:17] <dr_willis> WebcamWonder,  then i showed her the zoom.. so shes on it 2x as much now.
[05:17] <sambagirl> that is the hostname why is it not able to see itself?
[05:17] <andrewfree> xorlim, thats your auido card not the OS
[05:17] <xorlim> andrewfree: yes.
[05:17] <WebcamWonder> dr_willis, TBH. I use the zoom instead of the flash fullscreen. Flash fullscreen actually drops FPS
[05:17] <sambagirl> wouldnt it be localhost?
[05:17] <dr_willis> seaoftea,  care to ask the channel a bit more percise question? :)
[05:17] <seaoftea> lol
[05:18] <n8tuser> sambagirl-> are you trying to resolve a remote host?
[05:18] <dr_willis> WebcamWonder,  yep. exact use - she uses it for
[05:18] <n8tuser> sambagirl-> look at your entries in /etc/hosts
[05:18] <sambagirl> no i am testing something in vmware using hardy and it just doesnt seem to be working properly for some reason.
[05:18] <n8tuser> !who | sambagirl
[05:19] <mncvn> Hi.........
[05:19] <mncvn> May I ask some question???
[05:19] <mintsoup> mncvn yes but don't ask if you can ask
[05:19] <n8tuser> !ask | mncvn
[05:19] <mncvn> sorry
[05:19] <tmpprob>  hey im having some problems lolanychance of a bit help please  chmod 770 tmp/  is the command chmod: cannot access `tmp/': No such file or directory is the output and im in the :/var/www/htdocs/ossec-wui/tmp$ directory  please bear in mind this is my first install of ossec <<like thsi ?
[05:20] <seaoftea> Yeah, I was just wondering how safe it is for me to have no encryption over my wireless network.  I instead us mac address filters.  I know that someone could easily spoof their mac address, but how like is that really?  Also is there a way for them to scan for my mac address?
[05:20] <russianphysicist> hi all, I'm trying to reinstall Grub but I keep on getting Error 15: file not fount. I'm not sure where to find my /boot, despite the numerous howtos on the forums. I'm on the LiveCD for 8.04 right now
[05:20] <mncvn> I install xvnkb for key stroke management.
[05:20] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> open an xterm while on liveCD and get into root mode and type grub
[05:20] <mncvn> but i don't know how to disable autorun of this program
[05:20] <WebcamWonder> seaoftea, Encryption encrypts all your data as well. If you don't have any encrpytion, any sniffer could snif entire network packets.
[05:20] <mncvn> Where I must check???
[05:21] <WebcamWonder> seaoftea, And using the sniffing, extracting mac address is relatively painless. Just like spoofing your own mac address
[05:21] <seaoftea> crap
[05:21] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: I've done that, and when I type "find /boot/grub/stage1" it returns error 15 file not found again (same for find /grub/stage1)
[05:21] <mintsoup> mncvn: is there an entry for it in /etc/rc2.d?
[05:21] <J-a-k-e> mintsoup: Maybe it's just my sound card because I've got a rather decent sound setup. Speakers and amp connected to my sound card and everything sounds great in windows xp. I tested in running oss4 it sounded ok but the difference was somewhat like going back to onboard sound
[05:21] <Lifesf> gadmin-tools help required; it crashes upon startup
[05:22] <tmpprob> may i be next please
[05:22] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> which hd and partition is your /boot/grub/stage1 installed at?
[05:22] <seaoftea> the problem is I have so many devices, and some of them only accept certain encryption like wep, which is pointless because wep can be crack just as easy as having no encryption
[05:22] <cilkay> Hello. I have a script that I use for backing up a remote server to my local machine. It uses rsync over ssh and works fine if I invoke it from a shell. If I attempt to invoke the backup script via cron by putting a script in /etc/cron.d/, it never executes. Any ideas?
[05:22] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: that's the thing - I initially installed ubuntu from inside XP, so my only partition is /dev/sda1, and I don't know how to get at /boot
[05:22] <cilkay> I've restarted cron.
[05:22] <Brucevdk> tmpprob: it's /tmp
[05:23] <Venin> how do i find NetPacket for ubuntu? i cant find it in repos
[05:23] <WebcamWonder> seaoftea, The point is. Even for WEP. Someone has to spend 10 minutes cracking it. Open is, just open
[05:23] <tmpprob> ty bruce
[05:23] <seaoftea> yeah
[05:23] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> installed ubuntu inside XP ?  how? or are you referring to wubi?
[05:24] <tmpprob> what tmp folder bruce?
[05:24] <n8tuser> Venin-> do a   apt-cache search  netpacket   assuming thats the name of the package
[05:24] <Brucevdk> tmpprob: what are you trying to do?
[05:24] <seaoftea> I should probably encrypt, though I literally don't have anything to hide.  And when ever I send anything like credit card numbers I only go through 128 bit ssl.
[05:24] <tmpprob> tmpprob: chmod 770 tmp/  is the command chmod: cannot access `tmp/': No such file or directory is the output and im in the :/var/www/htdocs/ossec-wui/tmp$ directory
[05:24] <spaz926> Hello
[05:25] <tmpprob> is what i tried first sorryr spam
[05:25] <tmpprob> what im trying to do is
[05:25] <Venin> n8tuser: tried that.. cant find it
[05:25] <tmpprob> 6- Fix the permissions for the tmp directory and restart Apache (for the new permissions to work)
[05:25] <n8tuser> Venin-> then maybe it does not exist or has a different name
[05:25] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: no, I am not referring to wubi - I was in XP, and insterted the Ubuntu disk and installed it. from within XP. There is a c:/ubuntu which contains all the system files, but since they're in a different file system, windows can't see them, but since I created that while in XP, no partition editor sees it as a separate partition, so my only bootable partition is /dev/sda1, which is hpfs/ntfs
[05:25] <Venin> n8tuser: exactly..
[05:26] <Brucevdk> tmpprob: that's because you're inside tmp
[05:26] <cilkay> seaoftea: What if someone uses your network to attack other networks or to send spam?
[05:26] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> am not sure how you were even able to run the installation from within XP, lest you were using wubi
[05:26] <tmpprob> ah i see
[05:26] <Brucevdk> tmpprob: try ../tmp
[05:26] <pangloss> tmpprob: go up one directory and do it again
[05:26] <seaoftea> or do other illegal activities
[05:27] <seaoftea> hmmm
[05:27] <seaoftea> not good
[05:27] <n8tuser> Venin-> google for an equivalent name or functionality
[05:27] <Venin> im trying.. but cant find
[05:27] <Venin> hehe
[05:27] <n8tuser> !return | seaoftea
[05:27] <mncvn> sorry, my network's such.
[05:27] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: neither am I, but I know for a fact that what I was using then is not wubi, but a bona fide Ubuntu install disk
[05:28] <storm-zen> anyone know how to run alsa-config?
[05:28] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: it's the same disk I'm booting off now
[05:28] <seaoftea> yeah, ok I'm definately going to encrypt
[05:28] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> you meant you booted off a liveCD or the alternatecd ?
[05:28] <dulak> seaoftea: I use wep on my wireless, then openvpn on my clients so everything is really encrypted on wireless, even if they break the wep key they won't break openvpn
[05:28] <storm-zen> sorry.. alsa-info.. not config.
[05:28] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> then if that is the same cd, then it is liveCD as you said earlier you are in livecd
[05:28] <storm-zen> !alsa
[05:29] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: yes, I am in livecd, like I said above
[05:29] <nachi_> hey guys. ive brought a dedicated server with webmin control panel, now i need to move my domains, but first i need to setup the nameservers or somthing... anyone can explain me what i should do ? godaddy dont allow me to redirect the dns servers of the domain to ip address...
[05:29] <seaoftea> Thanks 2 everbody for answering mine and everyone elses questions.  With out you guys we'd all be left in the dark.
[05:30] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> so go ahead and re-install the ubuntu
[05:30] <DallasG> I need to remotely enable the standard Remote Desktop Connection via ssh -- anyone have any information on that?
[05:30] <cilkay> seaoftea, dulak By the time you add the overhead of WEP, OpenVPN, the general suckiness of wireless, you'll have a blazing 14.4 dial-up connection :)
[05:30] <lianimator> vlc player occasionally freezes the video and only sound is playing. I have to rewind a bit and it'll refresh. anyone have this problem?
[05:30] <seaoftea> lol
[05:30] <dulak> cilkay: I push 3M/sec across wireless with openvpn and wep
[05:30] <Optimus997> is it possible to use autoconf 2.61 or higher for Ubuntu 6.06?
[05:31] <seaoftea> 3 megabits?
[05:31] <J-a-k-e> I suppose what I'm really asking is does Ubuntu compare to windowsxp when it comes to high quality audio. Talking bookshelf speakers and amp connected to soundcard and active sub also connected to soundcard
[05:31] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: I'm not particularly keen on losing all the files/settins/programs I've got set up, I was hoping there'd be a way to do it without reinstalling the whole thing
[05:31] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> do a fdisk -l  and tell me the results
[05:32] <cilkay> J-a-k-e: You know about the UbuntuStudio project?
[05:32] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> btw, this a new install today?
[05:32] <dr_willis> DallasG,   I sort of did that once on a remote box. by first installing vnc and running gnome inside that vnc session. then i enabled the desktop shareing and set it to always be on , and autologing in. Then once i  reset the box. it would auto login to that user and have remote desktop going.
[05:32] <tmpprob> bruse if i showed you some tutorial text could you help me it is alot easier then me a ubuntu newb trying to explain it
[05:32] <Lifesf> could gproftpd problem have something to do with something i have read: Contents-amd64 ?
[05:32] <tmpprob> *bruce
[05:32] <Brucevdk> tmpprob: sure I've got a few minutes
[05:32] <DallasG> I tried adding vnc4server
[05:32] <DallasG> I connected, but it was just at command line
[05:32] <DallasG> What would I do after that?
[05:32] <dr_willis> DallasG,  I dont know the name of the control panel to enable it from the terminal.
[05:32] <tmpprob>  # vi /etc/group    ..    From:        ossec:x:1002:    To (if your web server user is www):        ossec:x:1002:www  is what i done
[05:33] <seaoftea> Does anyone know of any prog with all of the features of ksynaptics for gnome?  Gsynaptics is missing quite a few.
[05:33] <tmpprob> 5- Add your web server user (apache, www or nobody) to the ossec group:
[05:33] <centaur5> A preseed file that I used with Hardy doesn't point an Intrepid install the right mirror and it still stops for a user when it's not supposed to. Did something change?
[05:33] <dr_willis> DallasG,   you must edit the .vnc/xstartup script to run the gnome-session , then quit/restart the vnc4server
[05:33] <tmpprob> the above text
[05:33] <DallasG> okay, thanks :)
[05:33] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: no, not a new install, I've had it installed for months now, and I didn't do anything when ubuntu crashed, it just sort of stopped working completely randomly, all the programs just crashed and cpu went to 100%
[05:33] <dulak> seaoftea: 300k/sec or better usually with openvpn and wep
[05:33] <tmpprob> 6- Fix the permissions for the tmp directory and restart Apache (for the new permissions to work)
[05:33] <dr_willis> DallasG,   vncserver is a bit 'tricky' in that it doese4nt install a totally useable setup
[05:33] <Optimus997> is it possible to use autoconf 2.61 or higher for Ubuntu 6.06?
[05:33] <tmpprob>  # chmod 770 tmp/    # chgrp www tmp/    # apachectl restart
[05:33] <Brucevdk> tmpprob: you'll probably want to link or pastebin to the instructions
[05:33] <J-a-k-e> cilkay: I've read a little bit about it but always assumed it's more for people who want to do audio recording and such. I'm mostly just looking to play music here
[05:34] <tmpprob> http://www.ossec.net/wiki/index.php/OSSECWUI:Install
[05:34] <tmpprob> its a shiot install
[05:34] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: http://pastebin.com/m76111bf0
[05:34] <tmpprob> short
[05:34] <cilkay> centaur5: You're probably better off asking on #ubuntu-installer
[05:34] <storm-zen> is oss4 a better option for ubuntu intrepid?  I'm hitting all kinds of dead ends with alsa.
[05:34] <tmpprob> but im having some problems
[05:34] <centaur5> cilkay: Thanks, I didn't know about that channel.
[05:35] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> i dont believe ubuntu got installed
[05:35] <seaoftea> dulak:  thats not bad, but I can pull down 800-850kb/s if I'm near the router
[05:35] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: I've been booting into it since june...
[05:35] <seaoftea> thats with no encryption
[05:35] <scotlfs> I want to install software for my webcam, there seem to be a lot of choices of packages, and I don't know which I need...I want to take still pictures, movies, and chat with skype for example....any recommendations?
[05:35] <cilkay> centaur5: I had a bunch of preseed questions a few weeks ago and asked here, on the mailing list, and on the forum. The only place I ever got useful, if any, answers was on #ubuntu-installer
[05:35] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> on same hd? or a another one?
[05:35] <pangloss> !webcam | scotlfs
[05:35] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: on this hd, this computer, this setup, everything
[05:36] <scotlfs> ubottu: thanx
[05:36] <Brucevdk> tmpprob: ok well, the user for apache is 'www-data' not www, the command to restart Apache 2 is sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:36] <pangloss> lol
[05:36] <centaur5> cilkay: Are you preseeding Intrepid?
[05:36] <dulak> seaoftea: I can pull that anywhere in my house if I turn openvpn off
[05:36] <scotlfs> lol, thanx pangloss
[05:36] <cilkay> J-a-k-e: My Kubuntu system sounds great playing MP3, movies, and streaming radio. No complaints.
[05:36] <seaoftea> right
[05:36] <tmpprob> ahhhhh
[05:36] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> it does not seem like it, you dont show other partitions that is linux compatible, per your paste
[05:36] <cilkay> centaur5: No, and I probably won't since I'm only interested in LTS for now.
[05:36] <grant931> I get this message when trying to do this command:
[05:36] <tmpprob> ok thanks bruce
[05:36] <dulak> seaoftea: I'm just saying with openvpn and wep, I get 300k/sec, which isn't horrible for a fully encrypted wireless link
[05:36] <Optimus997> is it possible to use autoconf 2.61 or higher for Ubuntu 6.06?
[05:36] <grant931> grant@monster:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda6 /home/grant/files && chown grant:users /home/grant/files
[05:36] <Brucevdk> tmpprob: np
[05:37] <grant931> chown: changing ownership of `/home/grant/files': Operation not permitted
[05:37] <seaoftea> that really not bad
[05:37] <centaur5> cilkay: Alright, it's just odd I've been preseeding since Edgy and now it doesn't work.  :(
[05:37] <pangloss> grant931: use sudo
[05:37] <grant931> it is a FAT32 FS, what is going on?
[05:37] <dulak> seaoftea: it would be a lot better if I moved openvpn off my linksys router and onto an actual computer
[05:37] <grant931> I did
[05:37] <scotlfs> pangloss, I have a dynex (cheapo best buy brand), have any clue what it really is?
[05:37] <grant931> grant@monster:~$ sudo chown grant:users /home/grant/files
[05:37] <grant931> chown: changing ownership of `/home/grant/files': Operation not permitted
[05:37] <dulak> seaoftea: but my linksys router with the 16mhz cpu gives me 300k, which is fine for anything I care to encrypt
[05:37] <cilkay> centaur5: some of the apps that we depend on haven't been ported to KDE 4 yet so we'll wait until they are before making the leap from Kubuntu Hardy.
[05:38] <seaoftea> dulak:  yeah but who wants a big ol box for a router
[05:38] <Kinks> how can I close an X display from the terminal?
[05:38] <Kinks> ie. display 3
[05:38] <grant931> so what is going on?
[05:38] <dulak> seaoftea: I have a linux workstation I could put openvpn on for this, but meh, 300k is fine for hitting a bank site or whatever I need to do with full encryption
[05:38] <centaur5> cilkay: Well thanks for the heads up. Good luck with KDE it seems to be a mess right now.
[05:38] <pangloss> grant931: can you try removing the :users part? thats the only thing that seems wierd
[05:38] <cilkay> centaur5: Actually, what works is working very well. It's just missing some bits.
[05:38] <J-a-k-e> cilkay: what kind of setup do you have in the way of speakers and soundcard?
[05:39] <seaoftea> right
[05:39] <spolvid> Can someone help me? I just installed Ubuntu on a Mac Mini and it just sits at a blank screen with a flashing underline in the upper left corner.
[05:39] <spolvid> I can't type or anything.
[05:39] <grant931> same error
[05:39] <cilkay> J-a-k-e: Onboard AC97 sound card. External Polk speakers - nothing fancy. I've run XP on the same machine and certainly didn't notice any change one way or the other.
[05:40] <dulak> seaoftea: openvpn can work on windows and mac too, I have it on my g/f mac and my roommate's windows lappy
[05:40] <dulak> seaoftea: it's quite nifty imo
[05:40] <cilkay> centaur5: Can you pastebin the relevant bits from your preseed file? I'll compare to what I have to see if there's anything obvious.
[05:41] <pangloss> grant931: that really doesnt make sense.. who owns the /files? try the -v option maybe it will give you more info
[05:41] <seaoftea> I don't have an open router so I can't tinker, just your standard fair
[05:41] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: any more advice/ideas, or are you giving up?
[05:41] <robert__> problem with vmnet config files  i can't get networking going on any vmware appliances
[05:42] <seaoftea> at least it has decent QOS though
[05:42] <dulak> seaoftea: do you have a linux workstation?  You can endpoint openvpn into any linux and just nat the tunnel interface out through the wire
[05:42] <Lifesf> Ubuntu 8.10, server and desktop installed: lamp server installed; proftpd installed; I can open all of gadmin programs; all but ONE; gadmin-proftpd; it crashes when opening; any kind of help is very appreciated!
[05:43] <centaur5> cilkay: http://pastebin.com/d6d1ba8e
[05:43] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> if your fdisk -l does not show your partition, dont know what else we can do..
[05:43] <J-a-k-e> cilkay: Well that's odd, I've got mission bookshelf speakers and creative x-fi sound card. Sound in ubuntu compared to Xp is muddy, and flat
[05:43] <seaoftea> dulak: I'm soley a laptop guy, though I do have a qnap ts101 NAS that runs busybox.  I might be able to go through that some how.
[05:43] <hot_wheelz> hi guys
[05:43] <pangloss> !hi | hot_wheelz
[05:44] <centaur5> cilkay: I do PXE installs with the alternate CD and it still stops me for the user also all the packages for the install are downloading every single time from the US mirror which is definitely not what I want.
[05:44] <billybigrigger> what is the default collation for a mysql db?
[05:44] <billybigrigger> utf8-general-ci?
[05:44] <seaoftea> I'll have to look into it, though it wouldn't solve my wireless encryption problem
[05:44] <Reilithion> On logout, GUI stops working.  I get the sense that gdm might be doing something funky, but am not sure.  How can I fix this?
[05:44] <n8tuser> billybigrigger-> you can ask at #mysql
[05:44] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: alright thanks for your time, I'll keep looking!
[05:44] <cilkay> J-a-k-e: With what input? It could be a codec issue. Have you tried playing a CD?
[05:45] <hot_wheelz> anyone know if the wifi on a LG XNOTE LE50 series laptop works ootb in 8.10?
[05:45] <spolvid> Ubuntu won't boot. It just sits at a starting prompt....thingy.
[05:45] <dulak> seaoftea: busybox probably won't have the stuff you'd need for openvpn, you need openssl and zlib libs
[05:45] <cilkay> centaur5: Interesting that your file is generated via kickstart configurator. That has never worked for me.
[05:46] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> okay, are you sure you have the correct hd ?
[05:46] <cilkay> centaur5: I (painfully) modified the example file.
[05:46] <pangloss> !grub | spolvid
[05:46] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: I've only got one internal hd :-)
[05:46] <cilkay> centaur5: And that's not really a preseed file. That's a kickstart file.
[05:46] <dr_willis> hot_wheelz,  ive never seen a wireless card work OOTB.. but ive only messed with like 5 different laptops..  There may be some out there..
[05:46] <centaur5> cilkay: Yeah, I used Kickstart ever since Edgy and have been doing PXE installs.
[05:46] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> what have you done before this ?
[05:47] <centaur5> cilkay: I thought Kickstart was just creating a preseed.  What's the difference?
[05:47] <Kumquats> networkmanager is a support nightmare heh.
[05:47] <seaoftea> yeah it has a custom kernal on it, with rtorrent, openssl, and some other nifty things so it would be probable as it'll run any optware packages
[05:47] <juank> Soy nuevo en esto,porfavor pueden ayudarme ainstalar beryl en mi xubuntu
[05:47] <cilkay> centaur5: kickstart seems to be half-baked in K/Ubuntu. I'm also doing PXE installs but with a real preseed file. I point to an apt-cacher local cache. Saves a lot of bandwidth.
[05:48] <juank> alguien en español por favor
[05:48] <IcemanV9> !es > juank
[05:48] <Vienna> !es > Vienna
[05:48] <J-a-k-e> cilkay: I'm running oss4. I tried amarok and various other music players to play mp3s.  Also tried a few movies, I'm assuming it's rubbish driver issue on creative's part. Would be interesting to hear if other sound cards such as m-audio or asus have this problem.
[05:48] <centaur5> cilkay: The only time I was able to point to apt-cacher was with Feisty. I really liked that though cause I didn't have to apt-get upgrade after the install.
[05:48] <canthony> !es > canthony
[05:48] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: nothing, it was sitting, there, the only programs I had running were liferea, thunderbird, firefox, and foobar2k through wine, and when I got up to look something up on wikipedia Ubuntu had crashed completely
[05:48] <juank> icemanv9»»  puede porfavr ayudarme con mi problema en xubuntu
[05:49] <swt> is there some software like thurder ?
[05:49] <centaur5> cilkay: Would you mind letting me see the difference with your preseed file vs. kickstart?
[05:49] <WIGGMPk> Which one of the following folders controls file associations for mime types ".gconf .gconfd .gnome .gnome2 .gnome2_private .local .metacity .nautilus" Your help is very appreciated.....
[05:49] <IcemanV9> !es
[05:49] <dr_willis> swt,  its very likely that most people in here have no idea what 'thurder' is
[05:49] <robert__> problem with vmnet config files  i can't get networking going on any vmware appliances
[05:49] <cilkay> centaur5: The syntax of the file is different. preseed is the "native" Debian way. It's much more powerful, apparently, but it's more complex and its documentation is spotty. Kickstart is a "foreign" method adapted from Red Hat. It's very well-documented.
[05:49] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> and you have more than one partition?
[05:49] <robert__> this is all i get Could not open /dev/vmnet8: No such file or directory
[05:49] <robert__> Failed to connect virtual device Ethernet0.
[05:49] <canthony> can i save to docx format in OO3 or OO2.4
[05:49] <cilkay> centaur5: I'll paste it.
[05:49] <pangloss> juank: /join #xubuntu
[05:49] <juank> ahhhh muchas gracias icemanv9
[05:50] <hot_wheelz> does anyone know what kinda card\chipset those things run?...my guess is probaly broadcom...all the documention I have seen on them is in Korean i think
[05:50] <swt> it is a very big source under windows ,like emule
[05:50] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: apparently not, although when in windows it doesn't see the 30gb which are not ntfs
[05:50] <swt> dr_willis
[05:50] <centaur5> cilkay: I've also been trying to find an easy way to customize default theme and wallpaper but every package people have created only does it for live CDs. I wish there was an easier way to do OEM installs.
[05:51] <dr_willis> swt,  that means very little to me. sorry.
[05:51] <seaoftea> well I've gotta find some new wallpaper, thanks for teh help everybodies
[05:51] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> that does not seem right, what you pasted shows 78gb
[05:51] <swt> thank you also
[05:51] <centaur5> cilkay: Well, PXE is the ultra easy way when it doesn't change. On one of the new releases they changed the xinetd package they were using for PXE to work.
[05:51] <cilkay> centaur5: It sounds like we should be collaborating.  The way that I'm thinking of dealing with what you just said is to use KDE's kiosk tool and cfengine.
[05:52] <swt> which country are you in dr_willis
[05:52] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: right, because from inside ubuntu, it sees the entire hd, the ntfs part too, the entirety of which is 80gb
[05:52] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: but when in Windows, it returns the size of c:\ as being about 50gb
[05:53] <vegombrei> hi .. i seem to have a problem replying to mail thru hotmail .. everytime i log in to hotmail it says i need to update mozilla .. and i download it and install and it still wont fix the problem that i cant reply to any message .. how do i fix this ?  its really important i get to access my mail and reply
[05:53] <mluser-home> Anyone know what happened with pidgin after the last update?
[05:53] <dr_willis> swt,  USA.
[05:53] <canthony> anyone know is i can save to docx format, not just read it
[05:53] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> run gparted from that livecd and see if shows same
[05:53] <cilkay> centaur5: I think it'll be very difficult to preseed everything 100%. Besides, even if you get it right now, what happens when you need to make a few changes? You don't necessarily want to have to do preseed installations for a few trivial changes but you also don't want to do those changes manually across an entire network of machines either.
[05:53] <jackbeslow> Has anyone gotten the "create a usb startup disk" thing to work yet?
[05:53] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: it does.
[05:53] <tritium> jackbeslow: yes
[05:53] <jackbeslow> Every time I try it it dies on me, and then it tells me to look at the log...and the log does not show any errors
[05:53] <dr_willis> jackbeslow,  it worked for me also. i havent tested it a lot however.
[05:53] <sambagirl> ok back
[05:53] <pangloss> vegombrei: what version of firefox are you using?
[05:54] <vegombrei> pangloss: 3.03
[05:54] <cilkay> centaur5: For that reason, I've decided to get the machine to the point where KDE and most, if not all, of the apps are installed. One of those apps will be cfengine. I'll then deploy changes based on machine class via cfengine. Those changes will be kept under version control in Subversion.
[05:54] <swt> oh i like usa ,i am a chinese ,how about your life under the finacial crsis?
[05:54] <pangloss> vegombrei: well you cant possibly upgrade any more than that....
[05:54] <sambagirl> when i itype in sudo bash it says sudo: unable to resolve host jaguar. i am not online at the moment. should hostname default to localhost or loopback address?
[05:54] <joot> maxxist: you at the keys??
[05:55] <n8tuser> russianphysicist-> reboot and rerun same commands see if you get same numbers
[05:55] <pangloss> swt: if you want to chat, open up a private message
[05:55] <maxxist> joot yeah.  any luck man?
[05:55] <sambagirl> nopw i am log'd in as root@jaguar but i dont understand this inability to resolve the host name.
[05:55] <jackbeslow> does anyone think they can figure out the problem by looking at my logs?
[05:55] <centaur5> cilkay: Well the only difference I have is when I install a machine for myself and somebody else.  Otherwise there are no changes but it sounds like you're doing something much more complex and cool.  :)
[05:55] <russianphysicist> n8tuser: alright, I'm going to try running a chkdsk from windows too - thanks for the help!
[05:55] <canthony> sambagirl, you have a bad hosts file, or your localhost name in your hosts file doesnt match your hostname
[05:55] <chad1> when in battery mode my laptops fans are not turning on at all .. serious overheating issues happening ... can anyone help ?
[05:56] <cilkay> centaur5: Mine is for a school lab so ~ 50 machines at once.
[05:56] <WebcamWonder> sambagirl, So, basically any sudo command, looks up your hostname?
[05:56] <sambagirl> i suppose it must.l webcamwonder
[05:56] <FloridaBSD> swt: I am feeling preety good about my situation of course i am still figurativle under my Fathers roof seein as to the fact that he sends me the money and i pay the bills.
[05:56] <joot> maxxist: No so I installed linux mint on the same computer and it flew inBUT it did report a corrupt section in the ubuntu made partion so that was odd
[05:56] <pretender> can anyone tell me is the Brother MFC 260C detects properly in ubuntu 8.10.  Or can advise me of a tutorial for install
[05:57] <WebcamWonder> sambagirl, Been there. Done that. When not on Internet, it is a pain. Regular sudo commands can take about 2 minutes to execute
[05:57] <sambagirl> i probably need to do a native install and forget about vmware.
[05:57] <hot_wheelz> looks like the chipset is from a company called qcom anyone know it?
[05:57] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[05:57] <sambagirl> again i am in a vertual machine too.
[05:57] <pangloss> !printer | pretender
[05:57] <canthony> sambagirl, <IP_ADDRESS> will say localhost, but many times another entry, <IP_ADDRESS> will exist that should say your hostname NOT localhost
[05:57] <WebcamWonder> sambagirl, I fixed it by adding my hostname to the /etc/hosts, and giving it the loopback <IP_ADDRESS> ip address. I don't know about your setting
[05:57] <maxxist> joot like a bad sector on the drive?  or something you can just format away?
[05:58] <canthony> sambagirl, if it doesnt match the hostname of the machine sudo fails
[05:58] <scuwolf> so many people on this server -_-!
[05:58] <sambagirl> ahh yes i noticed that it didnt like me to use <IP_ADDRESS> as loopback url
[05:58] <dr_willis> scuwolf,  and its a slow day
[05:58] <sambagirl> so that is why it uses 1.1?
[05:58] <WebcamWonder> sambagirl, I think 127.xxx.xxx.xxx is all loopback
[05:59] <joot> maxxist: Just format away but it is coming from the ibex install some how, Maybe it is a random bug
[05:59] <centaur5> cilkay: So if preseeding is more powerful maybe I'll be able to automate partitioning. Kickstart is limited in that area.
[05:59] <jackbeslow> everytime I try to make the usb startup disk it gets to 11% and dies on me
[05:59] <canthony> WebcamWonder, yes that is true but i think there is some hackich reason the 1.1 address exists
[05:59] <Lifesf> still no help concerning gproftpd!!!; i gave up a while back on this ever since this and other issues had occured; could i also quickly ask what is that command to check the ip addresses?
[05:59] <sambagirl> yes i was just told that just now
[05:59] <maxxist> joot i still think it was your install disc somehow.  did you try to download the alternate disc and reinstall?
[05:59] <cilkay> centaur5: You can certainly automate partitioning. You'll see when I paste my file, which I'm doing now.
[05:59] <canthony> sambagirl, WebcamWonder at any rate the true hostname must exist somewhere on <IP_ADDRESS>/8
[05:59] <sambagirl> so do you force it?
[06:00] <ImBrian> I was having troubles with Pulse Audio on 64 bit xubuntu, so I've removed it in favor of Alsa - how can I have X use this as opposed to Pulse (which it seems to continue to attempt to use).  Audio works in console, but if I'm in X, it errors out complaining of failed pulse audio output.
[06:00] <centaur5> cilkay: Kickstart allows partitioning but it's done their way which is double the RAM for swap which just isn't necessary nowadays.  :)
[06:00] <sambagirl> itsays unknown host when i type ping <IP_ADDRESS>/8
[06:00] <canthony> sambagirl, what is the output of `hostname` in a terminal
[06:00] <backenfutter> anyone know what the initial login password is for vmware-server 2.0 web access
[06:00] <crazz> hello all
[06:00] <WebcamWonder> canthony, sambagirl, Yup. Just wanted to let you know that I had a similar problem, and fixed it by adding my hostname "my-laptop" with <IP_ADDRESS> to my /etc/hosts
[06:00] <maxxist> joot which file system type did you use ext3?
[06:00] <joot> maxxist: Yes I did fight after I talked with you but the same problem resulted so that is a consant on four cd's
[06:01] <billybigrigger> how come mysql automatically creates my db's and tables with the collation of latin1_swedish_ci i have my language set to english and my charset MySQL charset:  UTF-8 Unicode (utf8)
[06:01] <joot> maxxist: Yes ext3
[06:01] <sambagirl> now it asks if i want to ping broadcast with a -b
[06:01] <canthony> sambagirl, sorry <IP_ADDRESS>/8 is prefix notation for ip addresses, it just means 127.x.x.x
[06:01] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[06:01] <crazz> anyone else having a problem with sound after doing the update in intrepid?
[06:01] <joot> maxxist: and a linux swap
[06:01] <cilkay> centaur5: You can specify whatever you want in kickstart too, at least on Red Hat systems. Anyway, here you go: http://pastebin.com/d482656ca
[06:01] <robert__> crazz yes but it's just lower volume than usual
[06:02] <sambagirl> so what do you put in there?
[06:02] <maxxist> joot wow.  thats crazy.  i could suggest something even crazier.   download a copy of hardy.  format all the partitions.  and install hardy.  then when hardy is installed.  do a update-manager -d
[06:02] <swt> is there anyone want to talk?i am waiting>_<
[06:02] <sambagirl> <IP_ADDRESS> jaguar
[06:02] <sambagirl> in hosts?
[06:02] <maxxist> joot its a little extreme.
[06:02] <jackbeslow> crazz, I certainly am, pulseaudio never worked for me, since intrepid ALSA does not work either and I am back to OSS
[06:02] <crazz> well my issue is i updated after install a fresh intrepid on my compaq presario 2500 when i tried to restart the laptop it locked on shut down as the part where it says shutting down alsa
[06:02] <pangloss> swt:  this is a support channel, not a leisure chat channel
[06:02] <canthony> sambagirl, you need to get the value of `hostname` in a terminal, and make sure that whatever it is exists in your /etc/hosts file under either <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>     you may need to use a live cd if you havent set a root password
[06:03] <ImBrian> is audio in 8.10 a common complaint?  I did a fresh install today and it's bunk
[06:03] <crazz> jackbeslow: how did you fix the no sound issue using oss
[06:03] <centaur5> cilkay: Wow, much larger file than mine.  :)
[06:03] <joot> maxxist: That is how I usually do it but I got this windows computer and thought it would be an easy install :-))
[06:03] <pangloss> !offtopic | swt
[06:03] <FloridaBSD> sambagirl: issue this command in a terminal window hostname
[06:03] <robert__> anyone ever tie wlan0 in with vmnet
[06:03] <swt> sorry i am new here,but i want to share some experiences
[06:04] <cilkay> centaur5: I just modified the example file.
[06:04] <jackbeslow> I just used the sound preferences panel and switched everything to OSS and then specified it explicitly in all my apps that did not respect that configuration
[06:04] <sambagirl> well it says <IP_ADDRESS> localhost in host file
[06:04] <sambagirl> so iwas adding line <IP_ADDRESS> jaguar
[06:04] <canthony> sambagirl, localhost is not your actual HOSTNAME though
[06:04] <cilkay> centaur5: The only thing that doesn't work is the last bit where I attempt to upload my public key onto the freshly-installed system. Otherwise, it all works.
[06:04] <crazz> my comp locks at the alsa shut down everytime
[06:04] <maxxist> joot let me tell you man.  8.10 hasnt been all that nice to me either.  and I have been using ubuntu full time since warty.  and before that i was a redhat user for 6 years
[06:05] <centaur5> cilkay: Looks great though.  This way I can use apt-cacher which is what I wanted in the first place.  I don't know why my kickstart file was only able to do that with only Feisty.
[06:05] <crazz> i tried the oss but didn't work
[06:05] <sambagirl> no it is my loopback
[06:05] <canthony> sambagirl, is jaguar your hostanem>
[06:05] <IcemanV9> sambagirl: add "jaguar" after <IP_ADDRESS> localhost as well
[06:05] <Reves-Yosoy1> hi guys
[06:05] <jackbeslow> oh how do we enable that private encrypted folder thing I have heard about?
[06:05] <jimmacdonald> Hi I am on a Dell Inspiron E1505, I have the live CD loaded and running and I am trying to make a thumb drive startup disk.. but the application is not recognizing the USB drive. any ideas?
[06:05] <pangloss> !hi | Reves-Yosoy1
[06:05] <Reves-Yosoy1> I need help with some issues
[06:05] <mintsoup> maxxist:aww 8.10 has been hella nice to me.. at least as far as wireless drivers go
[06:06] <sambagirl> so like <IP_ADDRESS> localhost jaguar
[06:06] <sambagirl> like that?
[06:06] <sambagirl> or on anotherl ine?
[06:06] <IcemanV9> yep, sambagirl
[06:06] <pangloss> !anyone | Reves-Yosoy1
[06:06] <pw-toxic> hi
[06:06] <jackbeslow> does not sound as useful as a truecrypt volume as it is decrypted on login but....
[06:06] <pw-toxic> where can i define which applications i want to start when i start ubuntu?
[06:06] <crazz> would it hurt to remove the also drivers and if not how would i go about doing that?
[06:06] <pw-toxic> for example pidgin and skype
[06:06] <cilkay> centaur5: One tip with apt-cacher that will save you hours: put "path_map = ubuntu archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" in /etc/apt-cacher/apt-cacher.conf Otherwise, it's pretty much standard apt-cacher.
[06:06] <canthony> is it possible to save to the DOCX format and not just read it
[06:06] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, System -> Preferences -> Session, for user wide
[06:06] <pangloss> pw-toxic: System >> Prefs >> session
[06:06] <joot> maxxist: I am pretty used to ubuntu now so I will probably go back to Hardy it is a lts so it will last a bit yet
[06:06] <Reves-Yosoy1> first: How can I change the kernel from generic to the specific for my computer???
[06:07] <rww> JackWinter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[06:07] <rww> jackbeslow: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[06:07] <AJ_Z0> New 8.10 install and trying to establish wireless connection. Card (Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5100) seems to be working and driver iwlagn is attached. I have a wlan0 interface. The Gnome Network Manager (which I had to install) doesn't seem to offer any way to connect to a wireless network, just an entry "[-] Wireless Connection / Roaming Mode enabled"
[06:07] <eTiger13> how do i change a users password?
[06:07] <rww> JackWinter: sorry, wrong nick completion :/
[06:07] <sambagirl> ok
[06:07] <maxxist> mintsoup  i havent used it for any wireless yet.  but the network manager has been a horror for me.  it kept on switching numbers and removing numbers from my manually entered static ip info.  on two seperate computers.
[06:07] <centaur5> cilkay: What is the purpose of that line?
[06:07] <sambagirl> done i noticed there is no save for pico
[06:07] <AJ_Z0> How do I make the connection?
[06:07] <maxxist> mintsoup must be pebkac
[06:07] <jackbeslow> eTiger13, passwd
[06:07] <rww> eTiger13: passwd username
[06:07] <pangloss> eTiger13: passwd -a
[06:07] <cilkay> centaur5: I can do WOL (Wake On LAN) of a given machine and do a clean PXE installation. I can even do that from the comfort of my home.
[06:07] <canthony> AJ_Z0, you should be using nm-applet for network changes
[06:07] <chilli0> whats the code to see what my resolution is?
[06:08] <sambagirl> what is another editor?
[06:08] <sambagirl> instead of pico?
[06:08] <WebcamWonder> sambagirl, nano
[06:08] <sambagirl> and vi
[06:08] <pangloss> sambagirl: gedit
[06:08] <sambagirl> oh yes nano
[06:08] <sambagirl> thanks
[06:08] <Guest4001> Can anybody suggest any good programs to try out?
[06:08] <cilkay> centaur5: It maps the longer URL to the shorter one. It's what I had to do in order to make it work on the clients.
[06:08] <maxxist> joot imho ubuntu is still the best distro avail.
[06:08] <canthony> chilli0, xdpyinfo |grep pixels
[06:08] <crazz> jackbeslow: would it hurt to remove the alsa drivers and if not how would you do so?
[06:09] <joot> maxxist: I agree :-)
[06:09] <chilli0> thanks
[06:09] <jackbeslow> Crazz, there is a decent chance doing so would break some things
[06:09] <kwW> olaaa
[06:09] <crazz> darn
[06:09] <sambagirl> i dont see a save option in nano
[06:09] <Reves-Yosoy1> How can I change the kernel from generic to the specific for my computer???
[06:09] <sambagirl> amiga has opus
[06:09] <WebcamWonder> sambagirl, CTRL + X
[06:09] <Odd-rationale> sambagirl: ctrl+x
[06:09] <robert__> sambagirl what about kate
[06:09] <cilkay> centaur5: One thing that I've had trouble with that I still don't have a good answer on is that Xorg doesn't auto-detect the very vanilla graphics chipsets and video cards we have on some machines. The resolution will be wacky and I'll have to run xfix or such.
[06:09] <centaur5> cilkay: Oh, you mean to get the clients to use the apt-cacher server instead of direct?
[06:09] <Reves-Yosoy1> please, some help here
[06:09] <sambagirl> nevermind ;)
[06:10] <cilkay> centaur5: yes
[06:10] <rww> sambagirl: It's called "Write Out" Ctrl+O, I think :)
[06:10] <FloridaBSD> sambagirl: ctr +x
[06:10] <sambagirl> i forgot hte shift key
[06:10] <sambagirl> or ctrl
[06:10] <cilkay> centaur5: That line goes on the *server* though.
[06:10] <crazz> jackbeslow: is there a way to roll the alsa drivers back to fresh install?
[06:10] <eTiger13> how do i disable shell access for a user? what shell do i use?
[06:10] <centaur5> cilkay: A few months ago I ran across a line to do a proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf and have been doing that ever since.
[06:10] <sambagirl> now i am log'd in as root and it tells me permision is denied!
[06:10] <pangloss> Reves-Yosoy1: if you have another kernel, GRUB should prompt you for which one you want to use on start up
[06:10] <sambagirl> i did sudo bash and am root@jaguar
[06:10] <rww> eTiger13: set the shell to /bin/false
[06:11] <cilkay> centaur5: If you look at line 41 in my preseed file, you
[06:11] <centaur5> cilkay: Right, unfortunately my apt.conf file had to go on all the clients so that line on the server will help me out.  :)
[06:11] <WebcamWonder> sambagirl, Is this /etc/hosts?
[06:11] <eTiger13> rww:  i get a message saying that it doesnt exist
[06:11] <Reves-Yosoy1> pangloss, grub only marks the generic
[06:11] <sambagirl> yes /etc/hosts
[06:11] <cilkay> centaur5: you'll see that it's quite simple.
[06:11] <cilkay> centaur5: You don't have to do that with this scheme.
[06:11] <centaur5> cilkay: Awesome, that is really cool I'm glad you shared that with me.
[06:11] <AJ_Z0> canthony: If I run it from the command line, I get "...Could not acquire the NetworkManagerUserSettings service as it is already taken"
[06:12] <ImBrian> has anyone gotten sound to work on an Intel chip?  From what I can google, it looks very bleak
[06:12] <rww> eTiger13: /usr/sbin/nologin, then
[06:12] <pangloss> !kernel | Reves-Yosoy1
[06:12] <StarLight> hello
[06:12] <cilkay> centaur5: Next steps for me: figure out how to get my public RSA key for ssh onto each client, figure out how to distribute changes via cfengine, figure out how to get clients to authenticate against OpenLDAP so that we don't need any local accounts.
[06:13] <pangloss> !hi | StarLight
[06:13] <AJ_Z0> canthony: I enabled "Network Manager" in my Sessions Preferences
[06:13] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: thx
[06:13] <StarLight> does anyone know how to use dict/dictd with wordtrans?
[06:13] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, No problem! Glad to help once more:)
[06:13] <gareth_> I am having webcam and mic problems, can anyone help?
[06:13] <centaur5> cilkay: Can't you do a post install script that mounts a share and copies the file?
[06:13] <IcemanV9> sambagirl: try a new terminal and test there.
[06:13] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: how can i figure out my ip address of eth0? ;)
[06:14] <cilkay> centaur5: I'm not always here but I am always connected to FreeNode so if you /query my nick, you can always find me.
[06:14] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: i dont want to read it... i want to use it in my terminal
[06:14] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, ifconfig
[06:14] <Guest4001> ifconfig
[06:14] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: i want to do synergy <myDynamicAdress>
[06:14] <cilkay> centaur5: I don't know. Probably.
[06:14] <ardchoille> Well, I got avant window manager running without nvidia drivers or compiz :)
[06:14] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Ahh, I see what you mean. Hold on
[06:14] <sambagirl> ok
[06:14] <ardchoille> It seems Metacity does compositing quite well on its own
[06:14] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: i dunno why our dhcp always give me a different ip ;/
[06:15] <cilkay> centaur5: Ideally, that should be done in the preseed file. I'm sure it could be done there.
[06:15] <gareth_> Any help with webcam and mic help would be appreciated
[06:15] <centaur5> cilkay: I saw an example in my googling over the past week that somebody put a post install script on a local web server so any machine can simply wget it then it would execute and launch other commands.
[06:15] <WebcamWonder> sambagirl, I think that file is locked down b/c it is in use :s. I don't know much about it. Others might be able to help
[06:15] <Reves-Yosoy1> help
[06:15] <Guest29967> hey all, i want to setup a VPN server on my ubuntu, but i know there are many types of VPNs to setup, i want to try and make it as friendliest as possible for windows people, what type of VPN does windows natively use?
[06:15] <ImBrian> any tips for getting sound working?
[06:15] <pangloss> !sound | ImBrian
[06:15] <Kirsch> ok i was Guest29967 so tag me :-)
[06:15] <sambagirl> but there isnt a safemode for linux is there?
[06:15] <cilkay> centaur5: I'd like to avoid that. I'd rather have only two ways of making changes on the clients. 1. The preseed file. 2. cfengine
[06:16] <ImBrian> pangloss, thank you
[06:16] <cilkay> centaur5: I just need to bootstrap the machine to the point that cfengine can do the rest.
[06:16] <pangloss> sambagirl: recovery mode is available
[06:16] <IcemanV9> sambagirl: yes, there is ... it's called Recovery mode
[06:16] <sambagirl> maybe i will just delted this vm and rebuild it from scratch. it's all messed up nopw i think
[06:16] <centaur5> cilkay: So is your entire school on Ubuntu?
[06:16] <cilkay> centaur5: I'm off. You now know how to reach me if you need me.
[06:17] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr:' | cut -d: -f2 | awk '{ print $1}' <= change eth0 with your interface name
[06:17] <sambagirl> ok brb
[06:17] <gareth_> How can anyone get mic help here?
[06:17] <centaur5> cilkay: Okay, thank you very much for the info. If I run into a way to do your wishlist I'll pass the info.
[06:17] <rww> !ask | gareth_
[06:17] <cilkay> centaur5: Not yet. The installation is coming up this week and even then, it will be a mix of Kubuntu and Windows XP, and for the first time, OS X.
[06:17] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: wow ;)
[06:17] <vegombrei> hi .. i seem to have a problem replying to mail thru hotmail .. everytime i log in to hotmail it says i need to update mozilla .. and i download it and install and it still wont fix the problem that i cant reply to any message .. how do i fix this ?  its really important i get to access my mail and reply
[06:17] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Google. I didn't write that :)
[06:17] <centaur5> cilkay: Sorry to hear about OS X.  :)
[06:18] <pw-toxic> well thats really cool :D
[06:18] <pw-toxic> what does grep do?
[06:18] <cilkay> centaur5: Not me. It beats Windows by a mile.
[06:18] <Guest4001> Can anybody tell me how I would go about setting up my intranet ?
[06:18] <dr_willis> vegombrei,  last i checked hotmail there was some sort of 'ignore this warning/continue' button i could use.
[06:18] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, It is a program that uses regular expression (very power tool in text parsing) to search in the given text
[06:18] <gareth_> I have an internal mic and webcam, how can I get ubuntu to recognize them?
[06:18] <mixed-_-> anyone here has experience with synthesizers??
[06:18] <rww> vegombrei: I've heard rumors that Microsoft broke Hotmail on Linux recently. Lemmie go look for information for youl.
[06:18] <cilkay> centaur5: Anyway, I'm off. See you.
[06:18] <centaur5> cilkay: I have yet to find a decent way to auto install it.
[06:18] <centaur5> cilkay: later
[06:19] <cilkay> centaur5: Apparently, it exists because I have a friend whose kids attend an all Apple school and they do push installs there.
[06:19] <pangloss> !ask | Guest4001
[06:19] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: if i do this: synergys --address ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr:' | cut -d: -f2 | awk '{ print $1}' ...   he tell me that "ifconfig" is not a valid adress :(
[06:19] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: how can i do a work around for this?
[06:19] <mixed-_-> !synthesizer
[06:20] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, try putting the entire command I sent you between like this, synergys --address `ifconfig ...`
[06:20] <IcemanV9> !lamp | Guest4001
[06:21] <ImBrian> egh...this change to pulse audio is a huge bummer.  Guess I'll format again and hope for the best
[06:21] <Lifesf> WOOHOO someone that knows a bit on the linux server apps!
[06:21] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder:  works ;)
[06:21] <rider> jj
[06:21] <Lifesf> Runs towards ubottu; panting: I need help.... gadmin-proftpd
[06:21] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Awesome!
[06:21] <cmdbbq> i am making a compilation cd and i want to normalize the volume for all the tracks so i don't have to keep reaching for the volume knob; how can i do this either with brasero or through another program
[06:21] <rider> can you see me ?
[06:22] <FloridaBSD> IMHO, open solaris far surpasses Most Linux distributions
[06:22] <xorlim> !gnome
[06:22] <WebcamWonder> cmdbbq, I use the program named "mp3gain"
[06:22] <riley> sweat
[06:22] <cmdbbq> ?
[06:22] <riley> nooooooooooooooooooooooooot
[06:22] <IcemanV9> Lifesf: ubottu is a bot with lots of info for ubuntu
[06:22] <Lifesf> darn
[06:22] <Lifesf> lollll
[06:22] <pangloss> FloridaBSD: not for desktop use
[06:22] <rider> why no one anser me ?
[06:22] <Lifesf> I thought the name seemed structured
[06:22] <gareth_> In my audio settings I only ever have two options to adjust, pdc and main, how do I add internal mic?
[06:22] <pangloss> !hi | rider
[06:22] <cmdbbq> no one could see you rider
[06:22] <dr_willis> rider,  you want 1344 people to all say "yes" to you?
[06:23] <IcemanV9> !proftpd
[06:23] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: and how can i execute this command when booting? ;)
[06:23] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Put it in your sessions
[06:24] <Lifesf> IcemanV9: i've been looking and looking; googling; yahoo, etc... i've managed to land on one page where someone seemed to have the same problem as me,... but i still cannot figure out squat
[06:24] <FloridaBSD> pangloss: Atualy i hapen to be useing open solaris as my prinary Desktop Operating system for about three weeks now and have to adimnetly disagree with you on that one.
[06:24] <EruditeHermit> hi, I have a gspca webcam that used to work in hardy, but now the image is not appearing properly in cheese. Can anyone help?
[06:24] <Roasted> what's happenin
[06:24] <Roasted> how;s everybody doin
[06:25] <gareth_> Still no answer to my mic question?
[06:25] <riley> so
[06:25] <Roasted> Has anybody ever ran into an instance where on an Ubuntu machine, your USB ports stop working randomly after a certain amount of time?
[06:25] <riley> what we spos to be talking about
[06:25] <OltreIrc`1517> .:::] Ci40 @ Tutti [:::. »BuTT3rF|y sCr|pT«»rEvOLuTiOnZ»v3.1.5«
[06:25] <FloridaBSD> gareth_: pm me  i might be able to help with your isue?
[06:25] <OltreIrc`1517> Ciao
[06:26] <IcemanV9> Lifesf: i never done proftpd ... hopefully, someone can help ya with it.
[06:26] <Lifesf> Has anyone have an application crash automatically every single time you try and open it?
[06:26] <OltreIrc`1517> !list
[06:26] <pangloss> !offtopic | riley
[06:26] <Lifesf> IcemanV9: I hope so :P so far no one but maybe
[06:26] <NewNew> I'm fairly new, I would like to "lock" a folder on my USB harddrive so that no1 can access the data on it but me.
[06:27] <IcemanV9> Lifesf: state the problem again.
[06:27] <OltreIrc`1517> .:::] Ci40 @ Tutti [:::. »BuTT3rF|y sCr|pT«»rEvOLuTiOnZ»v3.1.5«
[06:27] <OltreIrc`1517> !list
[06:27] <ardchoille> OltreIrc`1517: Please take that elsewhere
[06:27] <Lifesf> Ubuntu 8.10; gadmin-tools installed; all run, except one; when i open gadmin-proftpd it crashes automatically
[06:28] <Roasted> Nobody has ever experienced USB ports not working right in Ubuntu?
[06:28] <hubar> Does anyone know that thunderbird has a "killfile" feature? (Or in plugins)
[06:28] <cmdbbq> WebcamWonder: thanks, mp3gain seems to be exactly what i was looking for
[06:28] <OltreIrc`1517> .:::] Ci40 @ Tutti [:::. »BuTT3rF|y sCr|pT«»rEvOLuTiOnZ»v3.1.5«
[06:28] <pangloss> !spam OltreIrc`1517
[06:29] <pangloss> !spam | OltreIrc`1517
[06:29] <OltreIrc`1517> !list
[06:29] <NewNew> I used Folder Lock before but now i need a linux tool or method to keep people from accessing the data in a folder on my USB harddrive
[06:29] <ardchoille> !ops OltreIrc`1517
[06:29] <WebcamWonder> cmdbbq, No problem. Look at the man page. There are a few ways of using it. If you just say mp3gain, it scans the file and adjusts on the ID3 tag. There are ways of forcing it to re-encode the file. Man page will help you further
[06:29] <IcemanV9> Lifesf: did you check launchpad for a bug on gadmin-proftpd? usually a solution is there
[06:29] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: my synergy server doenst get startet ;(
[06:30] <silverdulcet> NFS related question, my mount point is owned by me, when mounted it is owned by haldaemon, group: netdev. Is this standard? I have another box that when mounted, the nfs mount point is owned by hplip group:mysql. I cannot write to it unless I add my user to the mysql group.
[06:30] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Did you put the entire command in your sessions?
[06:30] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: yes
[06:30] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: and i copied it back to a console and used it and the command itself works
[06:30] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, That is odd. Commands in session don't execute :s... Hold on
[06:31] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Did you make sure there is a check beside it to Enable it?
[06:31] <phoenixz> How can I see what application is listening on what port?
[06:31] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: yes
[06:31] <zcat[1]> Gah! Morons. Guy wants ubuntu to connect to his windows machine and share internet, somehow he decided he needs to set up tunneling on windows and use pppoe on ubuntu to do it. FFS!
[06:32] <pw-toxic> synergys --address `ifconfig eth0 | grep 'inet addr:' | cut -d: -f2 | awk '{ print $1}'` --config /home/pw-toxic/.synergy.conf
[06:32] <pangloss> phoenixz: netstat -a
[06:32] <pw-toxic> this is the whole command
[06:32] <phoenixz> pangloss: thanks!
[06:32] <Lifesf> IcemanV9: well,... i've landed on one page from them before but didn't really know about launchpad... checking now and landed on one thing that seems to be the same problem as I; but i'm not sure i'm understanding the right way to go concerning the user's replies
[06:32] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, ps -A | grep synergys <= can you pastebin this output?
[06:32] <phoenixz> pangloss: doesn't show the apps.. :S
[06:32] <Wicked> anyone here familier with truecrypt?
[06:33] <zcat[1]> Tried to explain to him that it's just "one checkbox" in windows and he doesn't need to change anything else at all.. NOTHING on ubuntu because it will get the details from windows....
[06:33] <zcat[1]> but no, he's using Linux now so everything must be a million times harder...
[06:33] <vegombrei> well ?
[06:33] <pangloss> phoenixz: it does on the right
[06:34] <vegombrei> anybody have a fix for hotmail not working in firefox linux ?
[06:34] <phoenixz> pangloss: for some ports yeah, but not for 8080 unfortunately
[06:34] <pw-toxic> ps -A | grep synergys
[06:34] <pw-toxic> but i just started the server manualla
[06:34] <NewNew> vegombrei: you have the ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[06:34] <zcat[1]> vegombrei: change the browser ident..
[06:34] <pw-toxic> i did ps -C synergys and the output was empty
[06:35] <dr_willis> vegombrei,  it works here.  Hotmail likes to  post some messages like that. Last time I could check some checkboxc on the hotmail page that said let me in anyway, or use some user-agent tool to let firefox appear as a different browser
[06:35] <zcat[1]> vegombrei: hotmail are intentionally 'breaking' things if they see linux in the browser string, that is all
[06:35] <pangloss> phoenixz: try netstat -p
[06:35] <dr_willis> vegombrei,  like zcat[1]  said.. its HOTMAIL breaking things. Not a ubuntu/firefox issue at all.
[06:35] <army12bc> hi
[06:35] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Oh ok. I actually didn't know about the -C. I always grepped it :)
[06:35] <timreichhart> does anybody know what would be best 56k modem for a fax server running ubuntu 8.04
[06:35] <zcat[1]> It's all over the blogsphere today
[06:36] <pangloss> !hi army12bc
[06:36] <pangloss> !hi | army12bc
[06:36] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, I am not quite sure.  That's news?
[06:36] <timreichhart> does anybody know what would be best 56k modem for a fax server running ubuntu 8.04
[06:36] <gluonman> Why would I get the error "Are you trying to play an encrypted DVD without libdvdcss?" when I try to play certain DVDs in movie player when I already have libdvdcss installed? Does it just mean the disc is bad?
[06:36] <WebcamWonder> zcat[1], It has been known for quite some time now
[06:37] <army12bc> gotta love ubottu
[06:37] <dr_willis> timreichhart,  in the past - ive had thebest luck with 'real' external Serial modems.. but thats been 7+ years ago.
[06:37] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: well i just relogged.. no reboot
[06:37] <dr_willis> timreichhart,  even finding such things these days.. can be a challange.
[06:37] <timreichhart> well see i got a old P3 motherboard
[06:37] <zcat[1]> gluonman: they're adding more 'copy protection' to DVDs now... some just won't work. VLC can play most
[06:38] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Ok. I have hit a try spell of ideas. Sorry, I have no clue
[06:38] <AJ_Z0> What's most annoying is that after changing a bazillion things with no success, then next time the system boots, it just works! Now I have no idea how I made it work
[06:38] <Josesordo> hello, help pls
[06:38] <zcat[1]> easiest answer give up buying DVDs and download DRM-free files from bitorrent
[06:38] <army12bc> could be irq problem
[06:38] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: can you tell me how i can add this command in the bashrc into an alias? ;L)
[06:38] <pangloss> !anyone | Josesordo
[06:38] <gluonman> zcat[1], so it's just that Ubuntu hasn't developed an efficient means of decrypting those certain DVDs yet?
[06:38] <Josesordo> need resolve little problems here
[06:38] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: there are ' in the command...
[06:38] <army12bc> modem have trouble with audio irq reset
[06:38] <Josesordo> first, need install Atheros wireless driver..How?
[06:39] <scunizi> zcat[1], if you already have an account you can still access it.. I just tried to access mine and no problem.. just look for the link at the bottom of the compatibility message to continue "anyway".
[06:39] <pangloss> !wireless | Josesordo
[06:39] <dr_willis> vegombrei,  l Notice on the hotmail page where it says to upgrade  This Link ---------> If you don't want to upgrade right now you can still continue to Windows Live Hotmail,   <Click There>
[06:39] <zcat[1]> gluonman: hard to say, but yeah, probably.
[06:39] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Most likely escape it using the backslash. \' <= that should escape it. If I understand you correctly
[06:39] <IndyGunFreak> Josesordo: which wireless driver?
[06:39] <timreichhart> so dr willis your saying is better to use serial on ubuntu server for fax
[06:39] <Josesordo> ty!, lets see
[06:39] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: yes it would but it didnt work.. i used " instead  and it works
[06:39] <gluonman> Alright.
[06:39] <zcat[1]> scunizi: I haven't had a hotmail account for ages.. used to have<EMAIL_ADDRESS>not sure if it still works
[06:39] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Glad to you know are way ahead than me :)
[06:40] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: now synergy-start starts my synergy server ;)
[06:40] <dr_willis> timreichhart,  I found that real serial modems  - worked muchbetter.. since in most cases they were not win-modems
[06:40] <WebcamWonder> !offtopic | zcat[1]
[06:40] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Awesome!
[06:40] <dr_willis> timreichhart,  finding a linux compatiable modem - can often be the issue.
[06:40] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: do you konw some programs that add more information to my gnome taskbars? .. cpu   ram etc.. ?
[06:40] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: some hardware information
[06:40] <army12bc> is solaris the same as ubuntu?
[06:41] <pw-toxic> army12bc: no ;)
[06:41] <pangloss> army12bc: no
[06:41] <army12bc> looks the same
[06:41] <pangloss> army12bc: both unix variants
[06:41] <dr_willis> army12bc,  Gnome/kde look the same... they run under BSD also.. :)
[06:41] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, right click on the panel, you can get many otpions to add. I have the dictionary, CPU Frequency Scaling monitors for my both cores, and 5 sensor readings :)
[06:41] <dr_willis> army12bc,  Looks mean very little.
[06:41] <nachi_> hey. i did a mx record, a record and zone record for a domain, but once i try to move the domain to the server at go daddy i get "name server is not registered" ... do i need to wait or i did somthing in the config bad?
[06:41] <zcat[1]> Hmmm, I need to go through my big box of 'unsupported' modems and see if any of them have support since Intrepid came out
[06:41] <IndyGunFreak> dr_willis: lol, are you neurotic?... Gnome/KDE have little in common
[06:41] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, You need to install "lm-sensors" (I forget, I am not sure) to get the abiulity to add sensors
[06:42] <dr_willis> IndyGunFreak,  On solaris they look the same as if they were on Linux - is what i ment.
[06:42] <IndyGunFreak> ic.. sorry..
[06:42] <dr_willis> :)
[06:42] <vegombrei> dr_willis: but when you try to reply to a msg it wont let you .. have u successfully replied to email thru hotmail ?
[06:42] <army12bc> kde?
[06:42] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: haha the "eyes" are funny ;)
[06:42] <pangloss> !kde | army12bc
[06:42] <joot> zcat[1]: Did your 8.10 install ok??
[06:42] <army12bc> ty
[06:43] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, I know. There was this fish as well.
[06:43] <heret1c> the kbd on my ltop stopped working - heeelp+++
[06:43] <army12bc> so the difference is not in the desktop but in the kernel or file system?
[06:43] <vegombrei> zcat[1]: can you help me get my browser to work fine with hotmail ? how do i break the browser string like u said earlier ?
[06:43] <zcat[1]> joot: eventually.. burned three coasters, it seems the drive in mandela is busted. Put the iso on a different machine and it was all ok
[06:43] <pangloss> army12bc: yes
[06:44] <heret1c> using kvkbd...
[06:44] <zcat[1]> vegombrei: in the address bar type "about:config" (without the quotes)
[06:44] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, Ok, I am leaving. Anything else?
[06:44] <timreichhart> would this work?   http://www.trendnet.com/products/proddetail.asp?prod=110_TFM-560X&cat=51
[06:44] <joot> zcat[1]: Hmmmn I ended up with mint
[06:44] <army12bc> i got a lot to learn about this stuff.  i have been using windoze since 3.11 and in my classes they all use it but i want to learn linux server and unix environments
[06:44] <IndyGunFreak> joot: does mint have its Intrepid version out yet?
[06:45] <zcat[1]> vegombrei: say you'll be careful...
[06:45] <pangloss> army12bc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix
[06:45] <hubar> Does anyone know that thunderbird has a "killfile" feature? (Or in plugins)
[06:46] <army12bc> tanks again
[06:46] <joot> Indygunfreak: not as far as I know but there is an unstable that I did not feel like challenging after my 8.10 failed four times
[06:46] <dr_willis> vegombrei,    the editing dialogs/boxs on hotmail do seem to be broken. at least on one browser of my 4 machines..  that is weird.
[06:46] <zcat[1]> vegombrei: and search for 'useragent' -- not sure what you need to change, probably change 'ubuntu' to 'windows XP' or something
[06:47] <IndyGunFreak> joot: wow, 4x?  I installed 8.10 on 2 PC's, 1 Laptop, and 1 eee.. None had a problem except the laptop, which for some reason I got a grub error(easily fixed).. other than that, all went very wel.
[06:47] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: no i'm leaving too
[06:47] <pw-toxic> WebcamWonder: 7:47 here.. time to go to bed
[06:47] <zcat[1]> joot: no more workshops until next year I think, but ou know my number. We've moved btw.. not in Oxford St any more
[06:47] <shiki9> interesting stuff : http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gates.html
[06:47] <osbert> !kde4 | osbert
[06:47] <heret1c> the kbd on my ltop stopped working - heeelp!!!
[06:48] <IndyGunFreak> kbd?
[06:48] <joot> zcat[1]: ok
[06:49] <WebcamWonder> pw-toxic, :). I am glad you go to bed that early :). Bye
[06:49] <army12bc> lol
[06:49] <army12bc> gates = genious businessman = crap software
[06:50] <xuyan> hello
[06:50] <pangloss> !hi xuyan
[06:50] <pangloss> !hi | xuyan
[06:50] <xuyan> thank you
[06:50] <IndyGunFreak> army12bc: it wasn't that bad in the beginning, Win 95, while it had a fwe problems, was fantaastic..
[06:50] <IndyGunFreak> 98 was OK..
[06:50] <army12bc> i know
[06:51] <IndyGunFreak> Me was a mess
[06:51] <joot> dr_willis zcat[1] vegombrie: I just checked my hotmail  in firefox (after many months) and it seems to work plenty of spam there
[06:51] <IndyGunFreak> XP was good, and vista is a mss
[06:51] <tony__> how I upgrade?  sudo apt-get -r update?
[06:51] <army12bc> i like vista better than me and xp
[06:51] <ziroday> !upgrade | tony__
[06:51] <tony__> army12bc, me too
[06:51] <dr_willis> joot,  when trying to make a new/send/reply email. im seeing anissue where its not letting me actually edit/make the email message body.
[06:51] <IndyGunFreak> army12bc: i'd prefer the dentist over Win Me
[06:51] <army12bc> lol
[06:51] <ziroday> army12bc: IndyGunFreak: windows in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:51] <hubar> vista always does weird sh*t to my files.
[06:51] <tony__> IndyGunFreak, prove it :)
[06:51] <IndyGunFreak> tony__: lol..
[06:52] <Josesordo> How to install driver for my webcam (notebook, ASUS F3ka)??
[06:52] <army12bc> how do u do the long slash to do the bots
[06:52] <tony__> dentists are monsters from hell :)
[06:52] <dr_willis> joot,   trying the other  html/rtf/plaintext options.. but it seems  Hotmail dont like some firefoxs again
[06:52] <IndyGunFreak> ziroday: i'm well aware of whats offtopic here
[06:52] <pangloss> !webcam | Josesordo
[06:52] <xuyan> 这里有中国多朋友吗
[06:52] <ziroday> army12bc: what do you mean?
[06:52] <ziroday> !cn | xuyan
[06:52] <joot> dr_willis: Hah I did not try that :-)
[06:52] <tony__> xuyan, I agree lol
[06:52] <army12bc> like up there !webcam then a long slash
[06:52] <army12bc> then his name
[06:53] <IndyGunFreak> army12bc: i believe most PC's, its shift, and then it will be under backspace
[06:53] <pangloss> army12bc: its called a pipe
[06:53] <IndyGunFreak> its usually above \
[06:53] <army12bc> o i c
[06:53] <army12bc> !hi | army12bc
[06:53] <dr_willis> joot,  heh..now it worked on one browser.. :) go figure...
[06:53] <army12bc> like that
[06:53] <IndyGunFreak> pretty much
[06:54] <mini-admin> hello, can someone give me some help on upgrading from Hardy to Intrepid with an encrypted filesystem?  I'm having difficulty with initramfs
[06:54] <joot> dr_willis: the might of mega sys Hey what
[06:54] <vegombrei> zcat[1]: SAYS A LONG LIST OF STUFF IN ABOUT:CONFIG .... i cant understand it
[06:54] <heret1c> the keyboard on my laptop stopped working - heeelp!!!
[06:55] <zcat[1]> vegombrei: where it says 'filter' up near the top, type 'useragent' in there and you'll get only the useragent settings
[06:55] <army12bc> reinstall driver heret1c
[06:55] <zcat[1]> vegombrei: not actually sure what to change it to though
[06:56] <heret1c> army- how?
[06:56] <SuperQ> army12bc: that only works on windows ;-)
[06:56] <army12bc> lol
[06:56] <paul68> Is there somewhere a advanced tutorial or howto for iptables which includes mac filtering an port redirecting and limited access from certain ips
[06:56] <ziroday> zcat[1]: couldn't he use the user agent switcher as well?
[06:56] <army12bc> paul68 yes there is
[06:56] <zcat[1]> ziroday: yeah, or that
[06:56] <army12bc> i forget where tho
[06:57] <Mo0oSaH> I accidentally picked wrong geographic location during install, is there anyway to fix that without doing a clean install?
[06:57] <ardchoille> !iptables | paul68
[06:57] <heret1c> using kvkbd to type. slow.
[06:58] <ivangarcia> how can I use SCIM/SKIM on KUBUNTU intrepid ?
[06:58]  * army12bc slaps ubottu around a bit with a large trout
[06:58] <mhoy06> sudo apt-get install opera didn't work how do I change my repositories so that it will?
[06:58] <dd3> i'm trying to use aptoncd to create a cd with packages that i want to distribute. i created on such cd and when i inserted it into a system with a fresh install of ubuntu 8.10 the autorun said "Error autorunning software" and under it "cannot find the autorun program". is there a better way to do this?
[06:58] <ivangarcia> there is no tutorials about it, I've heard is integrated already, but where ?
[06:58] <storm-zen> Mo0oSaH: It looks like you can add your own location in Clock Preferences, if you know your Timezone, latitude and longitude...
[06:58] <paul68> ardchoille: that covers only the basics
[06:58] <dr_willis> zcat[1],  theres some firefox user agent extensions that may be helpfull.. Testing some other firefox's and this issue is only happening to me under ubuntu's - not sure if its a useragent issue at all.
[06:58] <ardchoille> paul68: :(
[06:59] <Mo0oSaH> storm-zen: I did that, but for everything it uses that location... such as for chosing the server to download updates from..  I changed the things that I know but Its annoying to see canada for everything when i live in Texas
[06:59] <dr_willis> zcat[1],  may be easier to just go grab Opera. :)
[06:59] <blankthemuffin> Where abouts does Ubuntu hide its trash folder?
[07:00] <storm-zen> Mo0oSaH: Where, in TX?  Austin, here.
[07:00] <ardchoille> !opera
[07:00] <ziroday> blankthemuffin: ~/.local/Trash
[07:00] <tony__> !gpg
[07:00] <blankthemuffin> ah thanks ziroday
[07:00] <ardchoille> ~/.local/share/Trash
[07:01] <ziroday> blankthemuffin: woops ardchoille is correct
[07:01] <Mo0oSaH> storm-zen: me too... what a small world
[07:01] <blankthemuffin> Yeah I found it. ;P
[07:01] <storm-zen> heh.
[07:01] <IcemanV9> ~/.Trash (on dapper)
[07:01] <Mo0oSaH> storm-zen: I go to UT, live around west campus area.
[07:02] <ziroday> Mo0oSaH: storm-zen: you can meet a whole bunch more texans in #ubuntu-us-tx
[07:02] <storm-zen> I'll look with you for a bit, and see if I can figure something out.  Awesome.  I'm in the wells branch area.  I'll have to check that out, then.
[07:02] <dr_willis> zcat[1],  even under Opera - the hotmail reply page/dialog box's are miss-sized...   :) isent MS great!
[07:02] <army12bc> !test | mo0oSaH
[07:02] <blankthemuffin> A question, if I just go in there and rm -rf everything in the files and info directory will that break anything. The reason I'm doing this is because it's failing to remove some items.
[07:03] <ardchoille> gotta love the bot
[07:03] <Mo0oSaH> army12bc: ?
[07:03] <admin_masu3701> hello there
[07:03] <army12bc> lol
[07:03] <admin_masu3701> what application can i use to play movies
[07:03] <army12bc> looking at chanel bots
[07:03] <army12bc> channel*
[07:03]  * aaaaaaaaaarggg Does anyone know how to disable "Work Offline" in Firefox?
[07:04] <joot> blankthemuffin: did you try  apt-get autoremove?
[07:04]  * aaaaaaaaaarggg This work offline thingy in firefox is freaking annoying
[07:04] <blankthemuffin> joot, this is the trash folder not apt...
[07:04] <ziroday> aaaaaaaaaarggg: unclick it?
[07:04] <joot> blankthemuffin: my bad
[07:04] <zcat[1]> blankthemuffin: that's what I generally do..
[07:04] <admin_masu3701> ??
[07:05] <ziroday> admin_masu3701: totem comes by default in ubuntu, but make sure you have the codecs installe
[07:05] <army12bc> !botabuse | army12bc
[07:05] <slope> am installing ubuntu 8.10 on a machine that has vista.  the ubuntu installatation will be on the second physical drive (sdb), while vista is on the first (sda).  The bios is set to use sdb as the first boot device, so I can use GRUB to choose os on boot.  I want Grub on the sdb drive to preserve the vista loader on sda.  Question: What do I choose in the advanced options for the boot loader: sda, sda1, sdb, sdb1?   thanks for any help
[07:05] <zcat[1]> blankthemuffin: the other thing you can do is chmod/chown -R everything, then you can delete it via the GUI again
[07:05] <ziroday> !pm | aaaaaaaaaarggg
[07:05] <ziroday> aaaaaaaaaarggg: and no, not that I am aware of
[07:06]  * aaaaaaaaaarggg sorry folks... 1st time here
[07:06] <blankthemuffin> zcat[1], sweet thanks. All gone. :D
[07:06] <army12bc> why is he purple?
[07:06] <sbingner> slope, just install grub to sda
[07:06] <ziroday> army12bc: that is set by your IRC client
[07:06] <joot> army12bc: it a comment
[07:07] <army12bc> what is action? that is why he purple
[07:07] <army12bc> how u do that?
[07:07] <IndyGunFreak> slope: i've never had luck putting grub anywhere but on the masterdisk.. no matter what the boot order
[07:07]  * dr_willis is not purple
[07:07] <ziroday> army12bc: by doing /me something
[07:07]  * army12bc test
[07:07]  * dr_willis is using the /me command :)
[07:07] <army12bc> lol ag
[07:08] <army12bc> btw irc commands and ubuntu its a wonder u all even know anything else than script?
[07:08] <slope> I prefer not to install grub to sda, so If I remove this physical drive I can still boot w/ the vista loader.  I can do this by installing each OS with the drive removed during install, then editing menu.list, but I have both in and figure it should be possible.  If I choose sda and remove the sdb drive (ubuntu) will I still be able to run vista?
[07:08] <zcat[1]> IndyGunFreak: If you put grub somewhere else, you still need an MBR that knows where to find grub, eg configure an additional entry in NTLDR for it
[07:08] <sbingner> slope, put your /boot on sda also then
[07:08] <mini-admin> hello, can someone give me some help on upgrading from Hardy to Intrepid with an encrypted filesystem?  I'm having difficulty with initramfs
[07:09] <IndyGunFreak> zcat[1]: right... l.ike i aid, i've never personally had luck w/ it.. not saying it can't be done
[07:09] <dingupenguin> when i open up firefox it takes up the whole screen and cant see anythign elese not even bars on the top and bottom
[07:09] <dingupenguin> how can i make that go away