[03:18] <BLZbubba> greetings, i am using mythbuntu lucid, and mythweb errors out with this: require(modules/_shared/tmpl/tmpl/header.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb/modules/_shared/tmpl/_errors/fatal.php on line 23
[03:18] <BLZbubba> i fixed it once but an apt-get apparently broke it again for me, did I do something wrong setting it up?
[03:19] <dmfrey> BLZbubba: what url are you trying to hit under /mythweb?
[03:20] <dmfrey> could alwasy do an apt-get remove --purge mythweb and then apt-get install mythweb
[03:20] <BLZbubba> i'm trying to hit /mythweb
[03:21] <BLZbubba> first page, this happens right after i put in my password
[03:21] <BLZbubba> i think it was something about a default theme last time maybe
[03:21] <dmfrey> looks like there is a dup in that path /tmpl/tmpl
[03:24] <BLZbubba> ah looks like an error in the error page
[03:24] <BLZbubba> _shared/tmpl/'.tmpl.'/header.php
[03:25] <BLZbubba> is tmpl a constant or something?
[03:31] <BLZbubba> the error page never read the template from skin.php for some reason, so i just hard coded it in fatal.php to default, and now i'm getting the real error
[03:35] <BLZbubba> "setenv db_server"  @!#%%#^ - what about /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt ?\
[03:35] <BLZbubba> and how about not replacing that with new mythweb debs too :)
[03:37] <BLZbubba> ok on a more serious note - will mythbuntu be switching to a different distro like debian any time soon?  the reason i ask is that upstart is a total piece of crap and all distros using upstart and/or plymouth need to die a grisly death
[03:38] <BLZbubba> so if there isn't an official switch a fork is in order
[03:41] <BLZbubba> if you want to see just how bad it is, put an nfs mount in your fstab and see what happens if it can't mount it during bootup
[03:44] <rhpot1991> BLZbubba: you hit s to skip
[03:44] <rhpot1991> otherwise it waits for it
[03:44] <rhpot1991> and no, we are staying ubuntu, hence mythbuntu
[03:44] <rhpot1991> I believe you should be able to avoid waiting for the drive by setting the proper flags
[03:46] <BLZbubba> well the point is that upstart is a disaster and not ready for prime time
[03:47] <BLZbubba> but what flags are you talking about?  i would love to give it a try
[03:48] <BLZbubba> i ended up with the purple mythtv splash screen with 5 dots and no text of any kind, and it stayed there forever
[03:49] <BLZbubba> people in #upstart are a-holes too, it is just bad news
[04:01] <MoMo> I have a Dell Inspiron Desktop 570 that I am using at my frontend -- it had HDMI out and when I do a lspci | grep VGA ... i get a ATI Radeon HD 4200 ... my current problem is that I can't get my audio across the HDMI cable.  any ideas where to start?
[04:01] <MoMo> the sound card is built in
[04:11] <BLZbubba> iirc, i ended up disabling the sound that was built into my motherboard (an old dell low profile desktop)
[04:11] <BLZbubba> and then the defaults worked
[04:11] <BLZbubba> screwing around with aplay and alsa devices is no fun
[04:12] <BLZbubba> also, has anyone evangelized about how much better nvidia is than ati on linux (at the moment anyway) ?
[04:12] <BLZbubba> vdpau is the best thing ever
[04:13] <BLZbubba> though i am praying that ATI's open source drivers get "good enough" some day
[04:16] <MoMo> BLZbubba -- I do like nvidia much better but my funds are low -- and currently the onboard seems pretty good  i was just wondering what the trick was
[04:19] <BLZbubba> watch for the nvidia 210 or 220 on ebay, they are dirt cheap sometimes.  in my case i just disabled the onboard so that the audio would go over the HDMI
[04:19] <BLZbubba> the HDMI appears as a sound device
[04:19] <BLZbubba> one with very few options
[04:19] <BLZbubba> iirc
[04:20] <BLZbubba> try this: aplay -L
[04:20] <BLZbubba> i have an entry like this: hdmi:CARD=NVidia
[04:21] <BLZbubba> but i highly suggest just disabling the onboard so there is no chance of getting the wrong device
[04:21] <BLZbubba> unless you're a masochist and love fiddling with asound.rc files and such :)
[04:48] <rhpot1991> MoMo: a few things
[04:48] <rhpot1991> 1. make sure its not muted in alsamixer
[04:49] <rhpot1991> 2. make sure its enabled in the bios
[04:49] <rhpot1991> 3. make sure that it can actually do sound over hdmi and that alsa supports it
[04:51] <MoMo> okay -- i'm working on all these right now -- booting it back up -- i moved it to another room
[04:51] <MoMo> in the mean time ... does anyone have an HVR-1600 or can answer this? which jack do i hook my cable up to? the one that says TV or ASTC
[04:57] <MoMo> aplay -l gives me this
[04:58] <BLZbubba> ah you have a built in HDMI connector, not an add on
[04:58] <MoMo> card 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]
[04:58] <BLZbubba> ok in that case don't disable it :P
[04:58] <MoMo> subdevices: 1/1
[04:59] <MoMo> subdevice #0: subdeivce #0
[04:59] <MoMo> yeah it's onboard -- sorry
[04:59] <BLZbubba> did you try cycling through the devices in mythtv setup?
[04:59] <MoMo> what do you mean?
[04:59] <BLZbubba> iirc there is something like ALSA:hdmi maybe
[04:59] <MoMo> yeah tried that
[04:59] <BLZbubba> in mythtv you can choose your sound device
[04:59] <MoMo> the sound comes out of the speaker jacks
[04:59] <MoMo> if i plug speakers in
[05:01] <MoMo> is it worth a shot to disable to onboard speakers?
[05:02] <BLZbubba> can't hurt
[05:03] <BLZbubba> which video driver are you using?
[05:03] <MoMo> how do i tell
[05:03] <BLZbubba> you may need the ATI Catalyst propritery drivers
[05:03] <BLZbubba> not sure, i just did a google search for hd 4200 mythtv hdmi
[05:04] <MoMo> if i launch hardware drivers
[05:04] <BLZbubba> fwiw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=9820366&postcount=8
[05:04] <Zinn> [ubuntuforums.org] Ubuntu Forums - View Single Post - [ubuntu] Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) + GIGABYTE GA-MA785GMT + ATI Radeon HD 4200
[05:04] <MoMo> it says ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver
[05:05] <MoMo> ati's installer huh?
[05:05] <BLZbubba> that's what this one person suggested; but maybe there is another way to install them these days
[05:05] <BLZbubba> ubuntu 9.10 is so 2009
[05:07] <_Techie_> you can install restricted drivers via jockey-gtk
[05:08] <BLZbubba> http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26550
[05:09] <MoMo> i typed jockey-gtk and the interface i used to install/activate this ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics driver showed
[05:10] <BLZbubba> that phoronix thread is titled: AMD Catalyst 10.10 For Linux Officially Released
[05:10] <BLZbubba> and i think it may even have some .debs to use, or a way to create them
[05:11] <MoMo> okay -- let me give the bios diable onboard audio a shot for shits and giggles and then move onto this
[05:17] <rhpot1991> MoMo: sounds like your device is muted
[05:17] <rhpot1991> check it in alsamixer
[05:18] <rhpot1991> make sure all the s/pdif entries are unmuted (should read "00")
[05:18] <MoMo> i just diabled onboard audio
[05:18] <MoMo> and loaded up alsamixer
[05:19] <MoMo> it shows the s/pdif -- and 00
[05:19] <MoMo> i can't increase it
[05:19] <MoMo> what is the mute command? how do i tell if it's unmuted
[05:20] <rhpot1991> but aren't you trying to use the onboard audio???
[05:20] <rhpot1991> m
[05:20] <rhpot1991> will say MM if its muted
[05:20] <rhpot1991> 00 if its not
[05:22] <MoMo> i'm trying to use HDMI audio
[05:22] <MoMo> through my onboard HDMI connector
[05:22] <MoMo> the onboard audio (with the headphone jack plug, works fine)
[05:32] <MoMo> does it matter? -- in alsamixer it says chip: ATI RS690/780 HDMI
[05:40] <MoMo> so ... digging and i did a less /proc/asound/HDMI/oss_mixer ...
[05:40] <MoMo> VOLUME "" 0
[05:40] <MoMo> is that right?
[05:45] <MoMo> damn this sucks
[05:45] <Zinn> MoMo: Please watch your language.
[06:00] <_Techie_> is there a really easy way to wipe all myth data from mysql and recreate it?
[06:05] <mrand> _Techie_: yes... section 23.6 of the documentation
[06:08] <_Techie_> mrand, can you please point me to the correct documentation
[06:12] <mrand> _Techie_: google says it is here: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/
[06:12] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] MythTV, Open Source DVR
[06:27] <_Techie_> okay, ive now got the mythtv-setup GUI working, however i cannot select the scan button in the channel editor
[06:34] <_Techie_> it is a BT878 based card
[06:35] <mrand> _Techie_: sorry, channel scanning is something that very few people on this channel know about.  You'd get a much better response on #mythtv-users
[06:36] <_Techie_> thankyou mrand
[09:12] <_Techie_> does anyone in here know how to get a analogue TV tuner to work
[09:12] <_Techie_> DVB-A  i do believe
[09:15] <_Techie_> hell, im soo lost atm
[09:15] <Zinn> _Techie_: Please watch your language.
[19:26] <baggar11> Homefront_Office: you here?
[19:26] <baggar11> Homefront_Office: I was going to ask you how you were doing your virtualized front ends
[21:00] <Homefront_Office> baggar11, im on the road and can post a howto next week that was the easy part
[21:03] <baggar11> Homefront_Office: probably don't need a howto, just wondering if you could expand on what you were doing with the virtualization part of your frontends. Were you RDP'ing into those vm's to display and control video?
[21:24] <Homefront_Office> baggar11, basically yes 1VM a signed to its own card w/RF controler
[21:26] <Homefront_Office> I have a i7 coming for a replacement, I do like having my box in the rack nice and cleean
[21:31] <Homefront_Office> baggar11, I think once this is setup with the correct hardware  its a helll of a media center system.
[21:31] <Homefront_Office> back to meetings
[21:41] <baggar11> Homefront_Office: cool, looking forward to hearing more details, no rush :)
[21:44] <rhpot1991> I'm not sure any VM can utilize vdpau
[21:45] <rhpot1991> and breaking up your tuners to frontends seems like an issue as well
[21:45] <rhpot1991> backends should have all your tuners :)
[22:01] <baggar11> rhpot1991: yesterday he mentioned that he had ordered 3 x hdhomerun's
[22:01] <baggar11> vdpau isn't a requirement either
[22:18] <_Techie_> how can i tell if my TV capture card is a hardware card?
[22:18] <rhpot1991> _Techie_: which card
[22:19] <_Techie_> its not a mainstream card
[22:19] <rhpot1991> baggar11: no its not, I just see a lot of issues with the setup as I understand it
[22:19] <_Techie_> its an analogue card using a BT878 chipset
[22:20] <rhpot1991> coupled with the fact he is having performance issues and is going against many of the things we don't recommend doing
[22:55] <tgm4883> _Techie_, you would look to see if that chipset has a hardware encoder
[22:55] <tgm4883> which IIRC, is no
[23:26] <Homefront_Office> rhpot1991, baggar11 one last ime be for I head out, im running the HDHomerun's OTA MythTV Backend and frontend for the Living room TV has HD and  2 pvr 350's TV out w/RF  "NOT HD" (running within wincrap w/XBMC)  and I dont recall say they were HD.. if I did sorry... I will put together a howto with the hardware that will be needed, I ahve got it running its just way under powered... I will even do a utube on it after I now the i7 does is th
[23:26] <Homefront_Office> e fix....
[23:26] <Homefront_Office> gone to dinner
[23:27] <Homefront_Office> (running within wincrap w/XBMC) Vmware
[23:32] <rhpot1991> Homefront_Office: thats what I thought, just struggling to get why that setup is better than say a moderate dual/quad core backend and 2 ion boxes
[23:35] <baggar11> Homefront_Office: I was just wondering about how you were incorporating virtualization into you setup. I think it's cool.
[23:37] <rhpot1991> Homefront_Office: and why not XBMC on linux, cut down on the bloat
[23:38] <Homefront_Office> rhpot1991, I can't say it is other then I dont have any boes or vcr/DVD ppayers in my rooms other the the TV only.... and if the wife doest watch it she will not have couches eather....
[23:39] <Homefront_Office> Give her a bike
[23:39] <Homefront_Office> gone


[00:00] <cjohnston> ya
[00:00] <mhall119> ok
[00:00] <cjohnston> do you want to change this so that they get approved again when they show back up on the export first?
[00:01] <mhall119> no, we avoided that for a reason
[00:01] <mhall119> I don't remember the reason, but we had one at one point
[00:02] <cjohnston> we need to rethink it
[00:03] <mhall119> probably
[00:14] <daker> cjohnston: mhall119  now that UDS will be online maybe canonical should give more importance to the design & the usability of the app
[00:14] <cjohnston> that's what your for ;-)
[00:15] <daker> also i saw linaro using another system
[00:15] <cjohnston> ya
[00:16] <daker> cjohnston: do we still need the widedisplay ?
[00:16] <cjohnston> daker: if nothing else we need it for scheudling
[00:16] <daker> ah :(
[00:19] <cjohnston> mhall119: are you packaging a release
[00:21] <mhall119> cjohnston: not yet
[00:22] <mhall119> daker: unless you want to re-write all the insance scheduling javascript, which I'd welcome
[00:22] <mhall119> /insance/insane/
[00:23] <daker> i still don't know how this thing works :)
[00:23] <cjohnston> neither do we
[00:25] <daker> :)
[00:40] <JoseeAntonioR> mhall119, cjohnston: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/attend_meeting/21677/ 'please contact [blank] or Jono Bacon, ...'
[00:40] <JoseeAntonioR> didn't I fix that bug?
[00:41] <JoseeAntonioR> daker: ^
[00:42] <cjohnston> dunno
[00:42] <daker> haha i guess yes
[00:42] <cjohnston> guess you should've written a test for it ;-)
[00:44] <JoseeAntonioR> yeah, I still need to learn on those
[00:44] <daker> ah go it
[00:45] <daker> it's {% if meeting.drafter.name == meeting.approver.name %}
[00:45] <daker> not
[00:45] <daker> {% if meeting.drafter.name = meeting.approver.name %}
[00:45] <daker> with ==
[00:45] <JoseeAntonioR> ooooh
[00:45] <JoseeAntonioR> I also need to learn the difference on those
[00:45] <JoseeAntonioR> will fix it in a sec
[00:46] <daker> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/templates/builtins/#operator
[00:46] <daker> the if used on the templates works exactly like in python
[00:46] <daker> you can't do:
[00:47] <daker> if x=0:
[00:47] <daker> the correct form is
[00:47] <daker> if x==0:
[00:56] <JoseeAntonioR> ok, mp submitted, it's #151661
[04:02] <JoseeAntonioR> daker: still around?
[11:01] <daker> JoseeAntonioR: ?
[14:01] <mhall119> cjohnston: I wonder how hard the summit API is being hammered by refreshers right now
[14:01] <cjohnston> heh
[14:02] <mhall119> well everything worked exactly as it should
[14:02] <cjohnston> yup
[14:02] <cjohnston> go us
[14:05] <mhall119> +1
[14:05] <mhall119> cjohnston: daker: thanks again for your work on this
[14:52] <daker> summit is struggling :)
[14:54] <daker> mhall119: cjohnston http://i.imgur.com/SnRUXLr.png
[14:55] <mhall119|afk> :/
[14:55] <mhall119|afk> fragaria should be beefy enough to cope
[14:58] <cjohnston> If you receive a permissions error when trying to login to the etherpad, please join the [Ubuntu Etherpad Users Team](https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad/+join).
[14:58] <cjohnston> uggh


[02:19] <File13> hi my ban was suppost to be 24 hours, it was placed somewhere around 4:30 yesterday and its yet to be lifted
[02:19] <Tm_T> I'd say wrong arguments
[02:19] <Tm_T> though I have no idea what you're talking about :)
[02:20] <File13> is there anyone who can check into it for me
[02:21] <Tm_T> what channel?
[02:22] <File13> #ubuntu
[02:23] <Tm_T> then I afraid I cant help
[02:33] <mneptok> File13: one moment
[02:33] <mneptok> File13: please try joining now
[02:33] <File13> word
[02:33] <File13> thanks
[02:34] <Tm_T> :)
[02:34] <Tm_T> @btlogin
[02:52] <ubotu> AndrewB called the ops in #ubuntu
[02:53] <AndrewB> Was for zeuszz  sorry he /quit
[03:59] <ubotu> Jack_Sparrow called the ops in #ubuntu
[04:05] <Administrator> Umm hi?
[04:05] <Administrator> is anyone there?
[04:06] <Tm_T> no, never
[04:06] <Administrator> what do you mean
[04:06] <nalioth> hi Administrator
[04:06] <Tm_T> all people are here, not there
[04:07] <Pici> How can we help you?
[04:07] <Administrator> okay
[04:07] <Tm_T> ;)
[04:07] <Administrator> well i was banned from #ubuuntu
[04:07] <Administrator> i wanted to know how can i get unbanned
[04:07] <Administrator> because im having some problems with my computer and i cant ask anywhere else
[04:10] <Administrator___> well like i said earlier how cani get unbanned form #ubuntu? or can i ask the quesion here?
[04:10] <Tm_T> this is the place to ask it yes
[04:12] <Administrator___> ok well as you all know ubuntu come with 4 workspaces with out the desktop effects you just click the workspace and it brings you there with desktop effects enabled you have the option of using the all known Desktop Cube to view all 4 of your workspaces...for some odd reason i only have one workspace and cannot switch to a diffrent one
[04:12] <Administrator___> any ideas on how to fix that?
[04:12] <Tm_T> well this is not right place for that ;)
[04:13] <Tm_T> but this is right place to ask to be unbanned ;)
[04:13] <Administrator___> well who do i ask?
[04:13] <Tm_T> the one who banned you
[04:13] <Tm_T> anyway, I'm heading to sleep, so have fun kids ->
[04:13] <Administrator___> i dont know who banned me
[04:14] <Pici> Administrator___: it was jrib
[04:16] <Administrator___> well jrib I'm sorry for bugging you and being annoying on #Ubuntu and i wanted to know if you could unban me because i always have a lot of questions for the Ubuntu community and i always need help because i am a new user of Ubuntu and i aim to keep it that way
[04:16] <Administrator___> i promise not to overflow the chat and stuff like i did
[04:18] <P19950528A0FE2D3> well Jrib are you going to Think about unbanning me?
[04:19] <jrib> P19950528A0FE2D3: do you remember why you were banned?
[04:20] <P19950528A0FE2D3> for being annoying i didnt use the pastebin tool to post bug stuff
[04:21] <jrib> can you stick to one name?
[04:22] <LiLtRiNiWaRrIoR> sorry about that
[04:22] <LiLtRiNiWaRrIoR> i didnt see what you posted im going to keep this name
[04:22] <jrib> don't use enter to break up your thoughts and don't abuse the bot as well.  I'll unban you, but understand that you have to follow the rules now or next time will be a lot longer...
[04:22] <LiLtRiNiWaRrIoR> ok
[04:23] <LiLtRiNiWaRrIoR> thank you very much jrib
[04:23] <jrib> LiLtRiNiWaRrIoR: try now
[04:25] <LiLtRiNiWaRrIoR> ok it works
[04:25] <LiLtRiNiWaRrIoR> thank you
[07:16] <xjkx> hi, there is a while i was banished, will i be banished forever? please remove
[07:16] <xjkx> like one or two days ago
[09:00] <LewisSharp> I'm being automaticly forward to readtopic channel. While I understand the problem and the issue, I can't do a router firmware update for not having access to it.
[09:06] <Gary> LewisSharp, you only need to change the port you use to connect to irc, this can be done in the irc client
[09:08] <LewisSharp> 8001 I already changed to it
[09:09] <LewisSharp> -> Your host is kornbluth.freenode.net[freenode.freenode.net/8001] , :)
[09:10] <Gary> cool, now we need someone on the access list for #ubuntu to check, it is still early and I have not seen any of them talk yet
[09:10] <Gary> can you wait for a bit
[09:11] <LewisSharp> sure :)
[09:11] <nalioth> check for what, Gary ?
[09:12] <Gary> the dcc exploit
[09:12] <nalioth> you can test
[09:12] <Gary> and if LewisSharp passes, to remove his ban (which I cannot do)
[09:13] <nalioth> LewisSharp: you can join #ubuntu now and thanks for your patience  :)
[09:13] <LewisSharp> No problem :) thanks for your time
[09:49] <zelva> Good morning
[09:49] <zelva> Is here anybody from administrators of ubuntu.com or xubuntu.org?
[09:50] <nalioth> zelva: probably not, what did you need?
[09:53] <zelva> I need drupal theme of xubuntu.org
[09:53] <zelva> I'm an administrator of xubuntu.xf.cz
[09:53] <zelva> And I'm going to move this web to xubuntu.cz
[09:53] <zelva> But I need this theme
[09:55] <nalioth> ah
[09:55] <nalioth> not sure where to tell you to ask  :(
[10:04] <zelva> no
[10:04] <zelva> I'll try
[11:18] <alsjpelaez> OXCKGBOBKNBKB OK,XKK
[11:18] <alsjpelaez> TU ERES  UN MIERDA
[11:22] <mc44> wow, I worked out what that meant without being able to speak Spanish :)
[11:26] <Gary> whats it mean
[11:27] <Gary> ahhh, babelfish FTW
[11:27] <jussi01> ?
[11:58] <elkbuntu> i could have told your what mierda was without a translator
[11:59] <elkbuntu> however, the first line was blather in any language
[12:00] <Tm_T> what's mierda?
[12:09] <elkbuntu> Tm_T, it comes out your rear end
[12:09] <Tm_T> I see, exhaust
[12:09] <Tm_T> thanks elkbuntu :)
[12:09] <elkbuntu> heh
[12:10] <Tm_T> oh boy oh boy oh boy!
[12:10] <Tm_T> I'm so excited about my new jacket
[12:11] <mc44> rob: the live CD should do oem installs in gutsy
[12:16] <Mez> Tm_T, new jacket ?
[12:16] <Tm_T> yup
[12:17] <Tm_T> http://www.varusteleka.fi/netta/imgl/nva-pbluseem.jpg
[12:17] <Tm_T> just lovely <3
[12:17] <Mez> Tm_T... you wouldnt by any chane have a very very small black moustache do you?
[12:17] <Tm_T> nope, not moustache at all
[12:18] <Amaranth> Are you in the military or something? :P
[12:18] <Tm_T> no I'm not :)
[12:18] <Amaranth> That looks like an officer's coat
[12:18] <Mez> Tm_T... good, case if you did... well... it'd be a bit... dodgy
[12:18] <Tm_T> well its close to it, DDR military crew parade jacket
[12:18] <Amaranth> DDR?
[12:19] <Amaranth> please don't give me the obvious answer :P
[12:19] <mc44> I so want a jacket like that
[12:19] <Tm_T> yes, East Germany
[12:19] <Tm_T> mc44: 30  <3
[12:21] <ubotu> In ubotu, Asher256 said: lol is apt-get
[12:22] <ubotu> In ubotu, Asher256 said: ubotu is not a bot
[12:23] <Tm_T> Amaranth: something wrong with it?
[12:23] <Amaranth> Tm_T: nope
[12:24] <Amaranth> where are you from?
[12:24] <Tm_T> Finland
[12:24] <Amaranth> hmm
[12:24] <Amaranth> don't know the fashion there :)
[12:24] <Tm_T> well thats not fashion
[12:24] <Amaranth> that kind of thing is only used in costumes here
[12:24] <Tm_T> I don't care about fashion, all I care is to have ONCE a jacket that does fitr
[12:24] <Tm_T> -r
[12:25] <Tm_T> and that looks good
[12:25] <Tm_T> if someone thinks I'm militarian, then he can think so
[12:25] <Tm_T> I don't care =)
[12:27] <Tm_T> Amaranth: over a year old pic of me, I'm so beautiful girl in meadows http://kiksu.irc-galleria.net/c/images10/01/29/24/82/55146027.jpg
[12:31] <Tm_T> Amaranth: you can pull your pants up now
[12:31] <Gary> Tm_T, you look scared :p
[12:31] <Tm_T> Gary: you mean scary?
[12:31] <Amaranth> Tm_T: what?
[12:31] <Amaranth> oh
[12:31] <Tm_T> ;--P
[12:31] <Amaranth> i was in #compiz-fusion :P
[12:31] <Tm_T> no, you're here
[12:32] <Tm_T> dont lie to me!
[12:32] <Amaranth> i just around a lot :)
[12:32] <Amaranth> err, jump
[12:33] <Mez> Tm_T, I apologise, until now i assumed you were male :$
[12:33] <Tm_T> well I am
[12:33] <Mez> oh...
[12:33] <Tm_T> or so they say
[12:33] <Mez> *looks at picture again*
[12:33] <Tm_T> who knows ;)
[12:34] <Mez> :P
[12:34] <Mez> was gonna say, if you're female, the coding has really got to you...
[12:34] <Mez> lmao
[12:35] <Tm_T> Mez: you're funny
[12:35] <Tm_T> silly, but funny
[12:35] <Mez> i love the fact that my new boss asked me today when ringing to confirm my start date "you do know we're commercial software right - is that going to be a problem with your open source philosophy"
[12:35] <Tm_T> :)
[12:36] <Tm_T> commercial can be open, did you say that? ;-P
[12:36] <mc44> Mez: I hope you said "Yes it does, however my philosophy can be changed if you add a small percentage to my starting salary" :)
[12:37] <Tm_T> xD
[12:37] <Mez> mc44, lmao....
[12:37] <Mez> nah I dont care... theres a need for paid software... It makes the competition better... and to be fair, phpBB sucks
[12:38] <Tm_T> yup
[12:39] <Mez> Tm_T, was that an agreement with "phpBB sucks" ?
[12:42] <Amaranth> Mez: So you work for vbulletin?
[12:42] <Amaranth> s/for/on/
[12:42] <Amaranth> dunno their company name
[12:42] <Mez> Amaranth, will do soon
[12:43] <Amaranth> cool i've pirated software you work on :P
[12:44] <Mez> hehe, so have I baout 5 years ago
[12:44] <Mez> where is it installed Amaranth ?
[12:44] <Amaranth> no where, it was about 5 years ago :P
[12:44] <Mez> ah Amaranth lmao - same here  :P
[12:44] <Tm_T> Mez: for all you say
[12:45] <Mez> hmm...  Can I help you?
[04:44] <axxium> PriceChild, just hanging out
[04:44] <PriceChild> Do we know you?
[04:46] <axxium> US LA LoCo leader
[04:46] <axxium> Should I not be here?
[04:46] <axxium> I will gladly leave
[04:50] <axxium> Sorry for any trouble.
[04:52] <Tm_T> err
[04:52] <Tm_T> haha
[04:52] <Gary> it's a local shop for local people...
[04:56] <nalioth> was that LA = Los Angeles LA = Louisian or LA = Lower Alabama ?
[04:56] <Tm_T> no idea
[04:57] <Pici> whois says Louisiana
[05:05] <ubotu> Jack_Sparrow called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:38] <Pici> People are stupid.
[05:39] <Tm_T> Pici: that's the biggest failure of you hu-mans
[06:26] <Amaranth> !staff
[06:26] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[06:26] <Pici> Amaranth: Wou
[06:26] <Pici> er
[06:26] <Pici> I was just going to ask you that.
[06:27] <Amaranth> --> ooo<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-devel
  /server -m irc.master-online.org:12000
[06:27] <Amaranth> <-- ooo<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has left #ubuntu-devel
[06:27] <Amaranth> 3 different channels i've been in have gotten that
[06:27] <Pici> I was going to ask if its even worth banning or if a staff member should be contacted.
[07:41] <PriceChild> I can't make factoids into aliases immediately... I have to "foo is bar", then "no foo is <alias> oof"
[07:42] <PriceChild> Instead of just "foo is <alias> oof"
[07:42] <Pici> I've had that problem for a while.
[07:42] <PriceChild> Seveas, ^
[07:42] <PriceChild> BUUUG :D
[07:42] <Pici> ubotu wouldnt respond if I didnt do `no this is <reply> that` even if this didnt exsist.
[07:42] <jrib> yes, me too
[07:43] <PriceChild> mc44, he'd kill me
[07:45] <PriceChild> on that page the "!seen service" needs to be removed from the description too.
[07:46] <Pici> Maybe !seen needs to be set to something.
[07:47] <Pici> actually, nevermind, that wouldnt work.
[08:01] <Tm_T> hi kids
[08:02] <PriceChild> hey Tm_T
[11:09] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, Varreon said: !eamonnd: is there a serial on the front?
[11:52] <ubotu> In ubotu, HymnToLife said: no, iso is <reply> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - To create an ISO image from a disc :  dd if=/dev/cdrom of=image.iso  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[11:53] <Pricey> !iso
[11:53] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[11:54] <Pricey> That sounds ok?
[12:18] <stefg> ubotu quit #ubuntu ... something serious wrong?
[12:18] <stefg> ahhh... there he is
[12:18] <Pricey> stefg, ubotu was disconnected, he is resyncing as we speak
[12:19] <Pricey> He just does so veeeeery slowly.
[12:19] <mc44> resinking ;)
[12:20] <stefg> Is this the hardware he runs is crappy, r is the code so slow?
[12:20] <Pricey> stefg, erm....
[12:21] <Pricey> He's in a stupid amount of channels
[12:21] <Pricey> which really slows down supybots
[12:21] <stefg> Pricey: seems we need either some clones of him, or some damn fast cluster for him to spread his wisdom
[12:22] <stefg> several instances , but using the same database?
[12:23] <Pricey> once he's synced he works
[12:23] <nalioth> stefg: you mean like ubot3 ?
[12:24] <nalioth> the db for ubot3 syncs hourly with ubotus
[12:24] <stefg> yeah, but.... we could use redundancy, really. #ubuntu is useless without bot. why not drop a separate bot on each channel /database still synced) ?
[12:25] <stefg> ... or write a decent bot ...
[12:25] <stefg> :-)
[12:25] <nalioth> stefg: because the two bots answer the same questions
[12:25] <nalioth> and the immaturity of the populace quickly comes to fore
[12:26] <Pricey> stefg, ubotu also handles our ban tracker
[12:27] <nalioth> Pricey: to the users, the ban tracker means nothing
[12:27] <nalioth> Pricey: the bantracker is only useful for the ops
[12:27] <Pricey> yes...?
[12:27] <Pricey> to the users... the ban tracker means we can more easily, and better manage their channel.
[12:27] <nalioth> but they don't see it as a benefit
[12:28] <Pricey> and that means that it doesn't matter?
[12:28] <nalioth> they DO see the lack of !factoids, though
[12:28] <Pricey> If someone wanted to write something so that a bot could jump in and out when ubotu goes awol then I'm sure we'd welcome it...
[12:28] <Pricey> but I'm not so hot on the idea of it being permenant
[12:29] <stefg> wouldn't it be feasible to split the overload? one ban-tracker bot, one separate bot for #ubuntu, #kubuntu, blah, bleh, blubb
[12:29] <Pricey> stefg, no because each bot has to parse every line
[12:29] <Pricey> it doesn't really split it... just multiply
[12:29] <Pricey> that's why ubugtu and ubotu merged
[12:30] <stefg> hmmm... so kiwi  is the way. kill it with iron ?
[12:30] <jrib> kiwi?
[12:30] <stefg> kill it with iron... don't bother about optimal code, just throw hardware at it
[12:31] <Pricey> a bot that figured when ubotu was present and when he wasn't could be fun... but when ubotu disappears I find #ubuntu is wierd for 5 minutes then continues
[12:36] <gnomefreak> !kde4
[12:36] <ubotu> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Alpha 2 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-alpha2.php>.
[12:37] <gnomefreak> jussi01: whats wrong with it
[12:37] <jussi01> its beta 1 now...
[12:37] <gnomefreak> oh just the last link
[12:37] <jussi01> see topic in #kubuntu
[12:37] <gnomefreak> if someone knows sed thats easy to fix
[12:40] <jdong> !girl
[12:40] <ubotu> Girls dont exist on the internet.  See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 | For more interesting reading, see http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/04/13/how-to-not-be-an-asshole-a-guide-for-men/
[12:40] <jdong> Umm.....
[12:40] <jdong> is that last URL really something we should have in the bot?
[12:45] <jrib> !-girl
[12:45] <ubotu> girl has no aliases - added by Hobbsee on 2007-08-12 09:12:44
[12:46] <ubotu> In ubotu, Pricey said: no kde4 is <reply> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Beta 1 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php>.
[12:46] <jussi01> !hobbsee | jdong
[12:46] <ubotu> jdong: I phear the stick so shhhhh
[12:46] <Pricey> grrr
[12:46] <ubotu> In ubotu, Pricey said: no kde4 is <reply> KDE 4 is the next major release of the K Desktop Environment. For more information see <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_4>. The Release Schedule is available at <http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.0_Release_Schedule>. Beta 1 packages can be found at <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-beta1.php>.
[12:46] <Pricey> grrrrrrrrrr
[12:46] <jussi01> Pricey: ??
[12:47] <pricechild> Right done
[12:47] <pricechild> jussi01, for some reason he doesn't like my "pricey" nick anymore
[12:47] <jussi01> heh, ok
[01:01] <pricechild> hmm gone again
[01:02] <pricechild> he's coming back though :)
[01:05] <pricechild> nalioth, what do you think about leaving ubot3 permenantly in #ubuntu and just muting when needed?
[01:05] <nalioth> that depends on 30-odd others
[01:05] <nalioth> to unmute when necessary
[01:06] <nalioth> the last time ubot3 and ubotu shared a channel, i caught parts of the 3 lower levels of hell
[01:06] <pricechild> I guess its not the unmuting that matters.. its makign sure there's always someone to mute.
[01:06] <Seeker`> How many people can mute / unmute?
[01:07] <pricechild> Seeker`, whoever's on the access
[01:07] <nalioth> Seeker`: /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[01:07] <nalioth> Seeker`: level 10 or more


[20:08] <shodan45> anyone use 0.27 and have mythvideo working properly?
[20:10] <shodan45> for me, it's a buggy mess... scanning for files takes forever, and it still misses some
[20:11] <shodan45> then if I leave mythvideo & come back later, a lot of the scanned files are gone
[20:11] <shodan45> I'm using NFS to connect to my backend, if that matters


[19:40] <eferreira> Last time I said yes and it left me with a broken system, but I'm running from a VM and had a snapshot so I just rolled back
[19:41] <virtual_z> I did sudo update-grub and now it can recognize windows but not booting to windows.. whan can I do now?
[19:41] <virtual_z> it freezes on a blank ubuntu purple screen. no error messages.
[19:42] <virtual_z> any rapid ideas please?
[19:44] <Guest95464> are there any casino, black jack or other poker games out there for Linux besides pokerth and solitaire?
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> !games | Guest95464
[19:44] <j09> virtual_z I've been trying to find help on here for the past 2 days, with no luck. Keep at it, but I'm not sure weekends are the best time for the support channel.
[19:45] <virtual_z> j09: ok thank you
[19:45] <virtual_z> I decided.
[19:45] <virtual_z> leaving it till it can work full compatible with my pc.
[19:46] <virtual_z> good bye! eh
[19:47] <Guest95464> MonkeyDust: what does !games mean?
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> Guest95464  open the links ubottu suggests
[19:47] <j09> goodbye virtual_z I hope you can get it working soon
[19:47] <Guest95464> MonkeyDust: OK
[19:52] <k1l> eferreira: seems like that system has issues before that installation. please run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade" first
[19:58] <k1l> eferreira: does it want to remove anyhting?
[20:00] <k1l> eferreira: please answer here so others can help
[20:00] <k1l> eferreira: so there is already a lot going wrong on your system
[20:01] <eferreira> k1l: where?
[20:02] <k1l> eferreira: what did you do, so it wants to remove all the packages?
[20:04] <eferreira> okay so: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15603763/ shows all the steps, first I try to install the library I need, second I try to install the dependency of that, third I try to install the dependency of the dependency
[20:06] <^Lestat> ?
[20:06] <^Lestat> docker
[20:07] <^Lestat> hi
[20:07] <antiPoP> I'm trying to connect a laptop to  a wifi. The laptops works fine with other routers, and I can connect with the same laptop running windowze to the same router. But I can't make this specific connection to work. How can I troubleshoot this?
[20:07] <^Lestat> didnt realize this container was still running. Thats kinda cool.
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> eferreira  there's also libgtkmm-2.4-1v5
[20:09] <eferreira> MonkeyDust Oh, thanks, maybe that will work! Itś installing right now
[20:10] <j09> Traditionally how much of a problem have repos like GetDeb and PlayDeb been with the overall stability of Ubuntu? I've got them installed and I suspect they're the reason my audio is lagging being what's being shown on my screen for 3d programs and flash videos.
[20:11] <akshay_> arch or ubuntu?
[20:12] <Myrtti> akshay_: whatever rocks your boat
[20:12] <j09> akshay_ I'm on Ubuntu 15.10 64bit
[20:12] <Myrtti> akshay_: it's a totally your own choice, you're not going to get an unbiased opinion from here.
[20:12] <k1l> akshay_: ubuntu, since you ask in #ubuntu
[20:13] <j09> although admittedly, I didn't seem to have not nearly as many issues with Arch.
[20:13] <Akki> @k1:  :p
[20:13] <dontknow> akshay_, trisquel
[20:14] <DirtyCajun> i have changed my primary group but when i make a file it still gives the file my username as the group. what am i doing wrong
[20:14] <eferreira> Thanks for your help k1l and MonkeyDust It seems this will work
[20:14] <Akki> i installed arch today for the first time
[20:14] <Akki> manjaro plasma one
[20:14] <Akki> alongside ubuntu 15.10
[20:15] <k1l> Akki: we focus on ubuntu support in here :) #ubuntu-offtopic for regular chat
[20:15] <Akki> oh, sorry. Aye aye captain
[20:15] <j09> I don't suppose I'd be able to beckon somone over to take a look at my issue with audio delay.
[20:18] <j09> this must be one heck of an issue if no-one here can help.
[20:20] <k1l> j09: its possible that there are not that much usb-headset steam gamers i here. i personaly dont use that setup. if no one can help in here you could try askubuntu.com or ubuntuforums
[20:21] <^Lestat> exit
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> j09  if you don't get an answer here, try in #ubuntustudio
[20:21] <j09> k1l thanks for getting back to me. I've tried the asubuntu.com site and the #ubuntu-steam irc but to no avail. This wasn't an issue until a few days ago, I suspected it was either a bad 3rd party PPA or something else completely random.
[20:25] <sune1337> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 in on a fully encrypted disk (cryptsetup luksFormat ... /dev/sda), but when i run update-initramfs -u after creating /etc/crypttab i don't get the cryptsetup file installed in the initrd image; so it can't boot. I do get it to work if i create separate partitions for root and swap and encrypt them separately.
[20:28] <Paul^^> hello
[20:29] <Paul^^> nobody here ?
[20:29] <k1l> sure
[20:29] <pokmo> hi
[20:29] <pokmo> i'm trying to read the value of the variable env.VLC_PATH
[20:30] <pokmo> is echo ${env.VLC_PATH} correct?
[20:30] <pokmo> i get bash: ${env.VLC_PATH}: bad substitution
[20:30] <Paul^^> I have some old iomega zip disk, my reader is the parallel version of iomega zip, but it don't go
[20:31] <Paul^^> I must rescue some old data from these disks
[20:31] <k1l> pokmo: without the { }
[20:31] <Paul^^> jazip don't found nothing iomega
[20:32] <pokmo> k1l: but that returns .VLC_PATH
[20:34] <k1l> pokmo: you might want to ask in #bash
[20:34] <pokmo> ok
[20:39] <squinty> Paul^^,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IomegaZIPDrive  might be of some help
[20:46] <drmagoo> Does anyone here know of a rdp-client (to access a win7 machine) that supports seperate windowsize (The program/client itself) and resolution? Windowsize is 2560x1440 and resolution is 1920x1080 for example...
[20:52] <solaire> how do I search for a package with apt-get?
[20:52] <teward> solaire: apt-cache search PackageNameHere
[20:52] <teward> or rather, search term goes where it says PackageNameHere
[20:52] <solaire> ok.  probably a stupid question to someone who knows, but why cache for uninstalled package?
[20:53] <teward> solaire: it searches the entire repository list that was last downloaded - i.e. from `apt-get update`
[20:53] <teward> solaire: installed or not, it lists packages that match the search string
[20:53] <teward> also, you may wish to search on packages.ubuntu.com as well
[20:53] <solaire> ok so i always want to run apt-get update && apt-cache search blah
[20:54] <teward> solaire: you can just run `sudo apt-get update` once a week, and still use `apt-cache search` any time after that
[20:54] <upp> hello, i'm looking for the name of this ubuntu theme? https://vimeo.com/137133837
[20:54] <teward> solaire: it isn't necessary to update every time you're running a search
[20:55] <solaire> yeah, fair enough.  thanks.
[21:00] <upp> any one know the name of this theme?
[21:00] <drmagoo> upp> Icons look like numix
[21:01] <SuperFario> can't change my brightness, tried itsfoss manual but didn't help at all
[21:02] <drmagoo> upp> http://www.noobslab.com/2014/05/numix-theme-for-ubuntulinux-mintother.html
[21:02] <SuperFario> any1 who is up 4 it?
[21:02] <upp> drmagoo: you're right, thanks you ;-)
[21:03] <drmagoo> upp> np!
[21:03] <SuperFario> my screen freezes when i unplugg the cable to the battery, running ubuntu 14.04
[21:04] <solaire>  /etc/sources.list.d is my repository directory right?
[21:04] <SuperFario> any1 dealing with this problem?
[21:04] <teward> solaire: /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* will comprise the list of repositories you have
[21:04] <upp> drmagoo: are you sure the one on the video is numix?
[21:05] <solaire> teward: what is the diff between the two?
[21:05] <teward> solaire: but yes, for 'additional' repositories outside the standard Ubuntu ones, then it's in individual files (typically) in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[21:05] <drmagoo> upp> quite sure, atleast the icon-theme.. Looks like my icons and I use numics-icons...
[21:05] <solaire> oh and /etc/sources.list is for distro officiale?
[21:05] <teward> solaire: sources.list is the 'ubuntu' repositories, created on install; the files in the sources.list.d/* directory area are all individual lists for individual repositories, designed to make it 'easier' to manage
[21:06] <upp> drmagoo: yes now i check it, thank you so much ;-)
[21:06] <SuperFario> can someone help a new guy in need?
[21:06] <\9> !ask | SuperFario
[21:06] <drmagoo> upp> =)
[21:07] <drmagoo> upp> you are welcome!
[21:07]  * solaire pats \9 on the head for being so diligent in forcing his vision on the channel :P
[21:07] <SuperFario> Thanks! So here is the thing. I recently installed ubuntu 14.04.
[21:08] <SuperFario> Sorry, i can't change the screen brightness, and i googled it and used itsfoss.com guide, but did not help me.
[21:09] <SuperFario> anyone dealing with this type of problem? i have a geforce and intel
[21:10] <Dekkard> SuperFario:  no display?
[21:10] <emelec> no puedo abrir mi gestor de paquetes synaptic.......me sale se ha producido un error....
[21:10] <upp> exit
[21:10] <emelec> E: Tipo «sudo» desconocido en la línea 17 de la lista de fuentes /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:10] <emelec> E: No se pudo leer la lista de fuentes.
[21:10] <emelec> Vaya al diálogo del repositorio para corregir el problema.
[21:10] <emelec> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[21:10] <veXx> anyone around that uses nvidia propriety driver with gtx 9xx series gpu mind helping me out?
[21:11] <SuperFario> @dekkard what did you mean?
[21:11] <Dekkard> black display?..
[21:11] <Dekkard> no picture
[21:11] <drmagoo> veXx: I do... whats the issue ?
[21:11] <k1l> !es | emelec
[21:12] <veXx> drmaggo: if i go below native resolution, screen does not scale/stretch
[21:12] <SuperFario> i have picture, but the brightness is at max, can't change it
[21:12] <emelec> ok
[21:12] <SuperFario> tried this http://itsfoss.com/fix-brightness-ubuntu-1310/ but was not helpfull
[21:12] <drmagoo> veXx: You get black borders ? How are you changing the resolution ?
[21:13] <roseysdaddy> hello
[21:13] <veXx> drmagoo: correct, black borders. i changed it using the nvidia software
[21:13] <Dekkard> hmm.. different problem than what i had.. sorry
[21:13] <drmagoo> veXx: did you restart the computer or just login/logout ?
[21:13] <veXx> drmagoo: "nvidia x server settings"
[21:14] <veXx> drmagoo: restarted
[21:14] <roseysdaddy> can anyone point me in the right direction?  fresh install of ubuntu server 15.10, but I have only a blank screen.  The only way to see anything is after it is finished booting, to press CTRL-ALT-F1.
[21:14] <drmagoo> veXx: are you using Unity ?
[21:15] <roseysdaddy> me?
[21:15] <veXx> drmagoo: currently using kde but i have xfce, and lxde installed if you think that would make a difference
[21:16] <veXx> drmagoo: i doubt this makes a difference, but i just swapped over from ati but I did uninstall all the fgrlx software
[21:18] <drmagoo> veXx: Any broken dependencies ? Check if there is anything in KDE settings (should be under System, then display) or try to change the resolution using xrandr...
[21:20] <veXx> drmagoo: interesting, if i use the display manager for kde, while limited (in options) it scales properly
[21:21] <drmagoo> veXx: the dm's dont mix well with the wm's. I currently use i3wm, with lightdm and use xrandr to change the resolution if needed.
[21:21] <roseysdaddy> can anyone point me in the right direction?  fresh install of ubuntu server 15.10, but I have only a blank screen.  The only way to see anything is after it is finished booting, to press CTRL-ALT-F1.
[21:22] <drmagoo> Does anyone here know of a rdp-client (to access a win7 machine) that supports seperate windowsize (The program/client itself) and resolution? Windowsize is 2560x1440 and resolution is 1920x1080 for example...
[21:22] <veXx> drmagoo: too explain a little about what i am doing, i like my desktop at native 1980x1020. but when i game i play at lower resolution for higher fps.
[21:24] <squinty> roseysdaddy,  might want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[21:24] <drmagoo> veXx: Then I would use xrandr to change the resolution.. Then you dont need to login/out or anything.. should just the current session to the wanted resolution
[21:26] <veXx> drmagoo: ill look into that, thanks
[21:29] <drmagoo> veXx: np! you're welcome
[21:30] <dcz> hello guys, how can we go to certain line in terminal like in vim ?
[21:30] <dcz> for example i typed ls -all then ls
[21:30] <dcz> lets say it is 100 lines output at total
[21:30] <dcz> lets say i want to go backwar to 93rd line
[21:31] <k1l> dcz: "ls" doesnt support that.
[21:31] <dcz> or how can i direct a command to search in terminal keyboard combination
[21:32] <Ben64> ls -al | head -n93 | tail -n1
[21:32] <dcz> no no
[21:32] <dcz> Ben64, lets say i ve already executed those commands
[21:33] <Ben64> then too bad
[21:33] <k1l> dcz: the terminal is not interactive like a editor
[21:34] <dcz> instead of using touchpad or mouse , i want to go back to last command's line that already executed
[21:34] <dcz> scrolling upward
[21:34] <k1l> dcz: use shift+"pageup"
[21:34] <readonlyomg> whats the url i can use with nc 9999 to paste from terminal again?
[21:35] <k1l> readonlyomg: nc termbin.com 9999
[21:35] <dcz> it doesnt go upward to last commands line with shift page up
[21:36] <k1l> dcz: what you want is not possible
[21:36] <dcz> how terminal knows a command executed at which line
[21:36] <k1l> dcz: the terminal is not interactive like vim
[21:36] <dcz> at least i knows which command executed at last :D
[21:37] <dcz> s/i/it
[21:37] <readonlyomg> http://termbin.com/mkac my HDD is remounting as read only but i dont understand enough to know if its my MAIN HDD or if its another one. can someone help?
[21:37] <dcz> doesnt it logs the command execution line ?
[21:40] <mercer> hi hello, I have a problem... I have a external data drive that (I guess) has been disconnected without being remounted, the problem is it has been renamed 3 times automatically under /media   as /media/New Volume1  and  /media/New Volume2  how can I change it back to /media/New Volume  so I can get everything to work properly?
[21:42] <akik> mercer: is it a ext3/ext4 file system?
[21:43] <mercer> 1 sec i'll check
[21:44] <mercer> it's ntfs
[21:44] <akik> with ext3/ext4 it is the volume label that is used
[21:44] <mercer> yes...
[21:45] <mercer> like my internal drives
[21:45] <akik> maybe you need to change its volume label to New Volume in windows
[21:45] <k1l> dcz: press "uparrow". that will show the last commands
[21:45] <mercer> i don't run windowsw
[21:47] <akik> mercer: maybe you can change it in gparted
[21:47] <mercer> I'm in gparted now
[21:48] <mercer> the label is New Volume but it is mounted to /media/New Volume2  so I get all kinds of problems with programs
[21:49] <akik> oh there's ntfslabel in ubuntu
[21:50] <akik> ntfsprogs package
[21:50] <mercer> would changing the UUID help or do I not know what I am talking about?
[21:51] <akik> it is most probably the label, not uuid
[21:51] <mercer> right
[21:51] <akik> i have no idea why it keeps changing on you
[21:52] <mercer> ok the device and the label are the same but it is remounted to a different directory under /media
[21:55] <mercer> so do you think remounting the drive back to the /New Volume  directory might work?
[21:55] <akik> mercer: it should be /media/username/foo ?
[21:55] <mercer> yes thats it
[21:55] <akik> mercer: umount it, change the label and then remount
[21:56] <bubba_> hello
[21:56] <mercer> ok bb in a fw
[21:56] <bubba_> is Bash included with Ubuntu and if so how do I start it ??
[21:57] <akik> bubba_: bash is the default shell in ubuntu
[21:57] <k1l> bubba_: open a terminal?
[21:58] <mercer> it's like this sda1 is mounted to the wrong directory, is there any easier way to command line it and change it to another directory?
[21:58] <bubba_> how do I start Bash?
[21:59] <Guest31316> ctrl + alt + t
[21:59] <bubba_> with the gui please
[21:59] <Guest31316> dunno
[21:59] <B0g4r7_> ctrl-alt-t
[21:59] <k1l> bubba_: what do you want to do at all?
[21:59] <bubba_> thanks for nothing :(
[21:59] <squinty> search in the dash for "terminal"
[22:00] <Guest31316> applications > terminal
[22:00] <k1l> ok, dont mind the trolls
[22:07] <mercer> how do i determine all volume id numbers from the command line?
[22:08] <k1l> mercer: sudo parted -l
[22:10] <mercer> k1l: that didn't give me the device id number...
[22:11] <k1l> you mean the uuid?
[22:11] <k1l> sudo blkid
[22:13] <B0g4r7_> Well I finally got this system working using lvmcache on the rootfs.  It still feels sluggish.  Maybe it'll be nicer when the raid finishes synchronizing.
[22:14] <mercer> all I need to do is change a directory back to it's original mount'd directoru... /media/superuser/New Volume  has been changed to /media/superuser/New Volume   and it's causing problems
[22:14] <foo> In OS X, in Terminal, connected to a screen on a Linux machine, in a venv, in python CLI, I press up arrow and I see this: ^[[A    ... how do I fix this so the up arrow actually works? I forget if it's Terminal, or screen, or python, heh.
[22:14] <mercer> i mean changed to /New Volume2
[22:14] <mercer> sorry
[22:14] <B0g4r7_> foo, have a look at the TERM env variable maybe.
[22:15] <B0g4r7_> Try setting it to some different values and see what happens.
[22:17] <B0g4r7_> mercer, the quick hack would be a symlink.  ln -s "/media/superuser/New Volume2" "/media/superuser/New Volume"
[22:17] <B0g4r7_> Just remember to remove the symlink later when you no longer need it.
[22:18] <mercer> ok what is a symlink?
[22:18] <B0g4r7_> symbolic link.  Called an alias on os x, and a shortcut on windows.
[22:19] <foo> B0g4r7_: thank you
[22:21] <mercer> I don't run win or osx
[22:21] <mercer> but KI think I need to logon and log back in
[22:21] <mercer> brb
[22:22] <drale2k> can o setup a ubuntu server in virtualbox locally, install and configure everything i want and then create an .iso (or something else) and use that to deploy to an online server? Is that a good idea?
[22:22] <drale2k> i want to create something i can re-deploy easily
[22:23] <Spinrad> drale2k, search Ansible, it will do the job
[22:23] <drale2k> Spinrad: thanks!
[22:25] <mercer> ok
[22:25] <mercer> back
[22:25] <mercer> my question is now this how can I remove a directory under /media/superuser/  ???
[22:25] <readonlyomg> can ANYONE help me with my read only mounting issues?
[22:27] <B0g4r7_> readonlyomg, sudo mount  -o remount,rw /mnt/foo
[22:27] <B0g4r7_> mercer, the rmdir command will remove an empty directory.
[22:28] <mercer> ok
[22:28] <k1l> readonlyomg: is this a live system? or the recovery?
[22:28] <mercer> sudo: unable to resolve host 127-0-0-1
[22:28] <mercer> rmdir: failed to remove ‘New’: No such file or directory
[22:28] <mercer> rmdir: failed to remove ‘Volume’: No such file or directory
[22:28] <readonlyomg> kil its a live system
[22:29] <readonlyomg> it boots. but boots with / being read only.
[22:29] <k1l> readonlyomg: that is not an issue
[22:29] <B0g4r7_> mercer, if there are spaces in the name you'll need to enclose it in quotes or escape it using backslashes or such.
[22:29] <k1l> readonlyomg: a live system is not writable.
[22:29] <readonlyomg> wait.. i dont mean live as in cd
[22:29] <readonlyomg> i mean live as in this is my active system
[22:30] <Bashing-om> mercer: Space in the file name ? linux sees a space as a delimiter , and must be 'escaped' .
[22:30] <B0g4r7_> readonlyomg, have you checked dmesg and the system log for clues about why it's mounting readonly?
[22:30] <mercer> it says the directory is not empty but I have the volume unplugged and I can't cd into it
[22:30] <k1l> readonlyomg: "mount | nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:31] <readonlyomg> B0g4r7_: yessir and it only states that ATA6 was having issues. which is my sdd not my sda
[22:31] <mercer> maybe there is a gui util besides gparted that can remove stuff like this
[22:31] <B0g4r7_> mercer, so something's still mounted that you want unmounted, it sounds like.  Explore the 'mount' and 'umount
[22:31] <B0g4r7_> ' commands.
[22:32] <B0g4r7_> The easy answer is to reboot.
[22:34] <lesley>  http://m.imgur.com/ZGAJvwY What the fuck!?
[22:34] <ikonia> please control the language
[22:34] <B0g4r7_> Hmm.  I wonder if I should click that.  Let me consult my magic 8-ball...
[22:34] <ikonia> there is no need for it, and it's not welcome
[22:35] <lesley> I'm sorry, but ... what the -
[22:35] <ikonia> why don't you just explain the problem calmly
[22:35] <lesley> I took a photo.
[22:36] <ikonia> why don't you explain the problem
[22:36] <k1l> lesley: we need way more info. the picture doesnt show enough. describe what you are doing and what error is there?
[22:36] <mercer> so dees anyone know of a GUI that can erase mounted directories and mount volumes easily?
[22:36] <lesley> Oh, sorry, let me try again.
[22:36] <ikonia> mercer: nautilus
[22:36] <Tin_man> mercer: sudo
[22:36] <k1l> Tin_man: stop.
[22:37] <k1l> Tin_man: sudo is not an program, and it is not to be run with gui at all. so dont give bad advice
[22:37] <Tin_man> just kidding, it is a gui, letters and such
[22:38] <mercer> nautilus ... ???
[22:38] <ikonia> mercer: yes, the default file manager
[22:38] <k1l> mercer: what is the issue at all?
[22:38] <ikonia> mercer: that can delete directories and files within a mounted directory just fine
[22:39] <B0g4r7_> He wants a gui frontend for mount and umount.
[22:39] <ikonia> nautius coupled with the automounter will do that
[22:39] <foo> uname -a #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:11:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux - does this mean I need to install 64bit versions of packages?
[22:39] <k1l> that is nautilus. it can mount and unmount partitions. but i think he got another issue there
[22:39] <Tin_man> chill out
[22:39] <mercer> my external volume of information keeps remounting to a different directory and is causing problems
[22:39] <k1l> foo: that is a 64bit system. yes
[22:40] <foo> k1l: that's what I thought, thank you
[22:40] <ikonia> Tin_man: no - stop messing around, there will be no more warnings
[22:41] <B0g4r7_> Automatic mounting, no doubt.
[22:41] <B0g4r7_> Something permanant in fstab would probably suit better.
[22:42] <ikonia> it should only mount in one place, even with the automounter
[22:42] <ikonia> based off volume label
[22:42] <k1l> mercer: "sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:42] <V7> o/
[22:42] <k1l> mercer: "cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:43] <geovane> Ola.
[22:43] <Dinner4Breakfast> is there a way to turn off 3D in unity without losing any of the functionality?
[22:43] <k1l> Dinner4Breakfast: no
[22:43] <mish41> is anyone here successfully running dropbox on their ubuntu 14.04?
[22:44] <k1l> mish41: there are plenty
[22:44] <mercer> ok k1l
[22:44] <mish41> k1l: i have no luck in getting it to start, and keep getting permission errors. haven't found a fix for it yet.
[22:45] <Dinner4Breakfast> is there a desktop or window manager that can grid *child* windows like unity?
[22:45] <V7> Is here anyone who's using Krusader ?
[22:46] <k1l> mish41: sudo apt-get install nautilus-dropbox
[22:46] <k1l> mish41: eventually run "dropbox start -i
[22:46] <k1l> " afterwards
[22:46] <mish41> k1l: so with my current dropbox should i just stop running it, or remove it?
[22:46] <Dinner4Breakfast> I've tried lxde and kde, and they can grid main/parent windows, but not child windows
[22:46] <V7> Or ... guys ... which app are u using for SFTP ?
[22:46] <V7> Gui *
[22:47] <V7> Except Filezilla
[22:47] <k1l> V7: nautilus
[22:47] <mish41> k1l: also fyi i installed dropbox from a .deb package i downloaded from dropbox, instead of through apt-get
[22:47] <k1l> mish41: i dont know about that 3rd party package
[22:48] <V7> k1l: nautilus o.o ? Really ...
[22:48] <V7> ewww
[22:48] <k1l> V7: yes, "connect to server" in the menu
[22:48] <V7> If we'd not joking :D ?
[22:48] <mercer> brb
[22:51] <lesley> The contibue button in the installer was greyed out on the format type screen (format everything/something else) was greyed out. Is this a known issue?
[22:51] <lesley> n*
[22:51] <k1l> lesley: that sounds like the choosen setup was missing something.
[22:52] <V7> lesley: Ctrl+Alt+5 and dmesg
[22:52] <V7> ?
[22:54] <dummy9> Is there a Linux podcast that's recorded live apart from mintcast?
[22:55] <k1l> dummy9: better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:55] <BroEzra> I just installed a fresh copy of Ubuntu 14.04 LTS yesterday along side Windows 10. After initial installation grub showed both options. Now Windows 10 is not listed. All I have done is download updates and my nVidia driver and a few apps. Is there a way to add Windows back in with Grub Customizer? Thanks!
[22:56] <k1l> BroEzra: run a "sudo update-grub"
[22:56] <BroEzra> k1l: I did and then rebooted. Still nothing.
[22:56] <lesley> I'm sorry that just causes the system to crash and reset.
[22:57] <V7> What da fu** ... windows 10 ?
[22:57] <V7> lesley: What exactly ?
[22:57] <k1l> lesley: so did you enter all the needed things on that installation page?
[22:58] <k1l> BroEzra: can you show the output on paste.ubuntu.com ?
[22:59] <lesley> Never mind.  Uhm... I can't tell which of th dmesg errors is related to the installer button.
[23:00] <BroEzra> k1l: Here is the output for sudo update-grub. https://paste.ubuntu.com/15605481/
[23:13] <Madhumper69> ufw seems to be enabled all is fine in terminal however when i open gufw the application wont open i get no errors?  any direction into this issue would be helpful thanks
[23:14] <teward> Madhumper69: try running `gufw` from the terminal, see if there's any errors going there
[23:14] <Madhumper69> ok
[23:15] <Madhumper69> good call, that gives me something to work with
[23:15] <BroEzra> k1l: I think I am going to try and use boot-repair and reinstall grub. Hopefully that will help. Thanks for you help
[23:16] <Rhorse> I just received my preinstalled 15.10 laptop. What happens when 15.10 is eol? Do I need to do fresh install of another version?
[23:17] <k1l> Rhorse: you can upgrade from end of april to july with online upgrade
[23:17] <Madhumper69> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15605560/ error i got teward
[23:17] <Madhumper69> ill do some googling.. thanks
[23:17] <Rhorse> k1l: is this upgrade to another 9 month cycle or to an LTS?
[23:18] <k1l> Rhorse: 16.04 is an LTS with up to 5 years support
[23:18] <Rhorse> k1l: thanks!
[23:19] <Sazpaimon_> How can I get gparted to allow me to shrink my ntfs volume? It's complaining that I don't have ntfs-3g, but I absolutely do have it
[23:20] <k1l> Sazpaimon_: sudo apt install ntfs-3g
[23:21] <Sazpaimon_> " It's complaining that I don't have ntfs-3g, but I absolutely do have it"
[23:21] <k1l> Sazpaimon_: what is the output when you run my command?
[23:22] <Sazpaimon_> already installed and newest version
[23:22] <Sazpaimon_> and I confirmed that I have ntfsresize, ntfsfix, etc
[23:23] <TJ-> Sazpaimon_: have you considered the report may be misleading; the real issue may be that the NTFS volume dirty flag is set so the ntfs tools won't touch it
[23:23] <Madhumper69> Turns out I was missing a package called python-gobject; installed it and gufw works flawlessly.
[23:23] <k1l> Sazpaimon_: what is the exact errormessage?
[23:23] <Sazpaimon_> the windows install was cleanly shut down
[23:23] <anonim> bonjour
[23:24] <k1l> Sazpaimon_: windows doesnt "cleanly unmount" on shutdown since some time. due to simulate a faster boot time
[23:24] <Sazpaimon_> Unable to read the contents of this file system! Because of this some operations may be unavailable. The cause might be a missing software package. The following list of software packages is required for ntfs file system support: ntfsprogs / ntfs-3g.
[23:24] <k1l> Sazpaimon_: so please dont think we think you are dumb. but we just need to work through all known issues
[23:25] <Sazpaimon_> so if this is the system partition, how do I cleanly unmount it when shutting down windows?
[23:25] <Sazpaimon_> will I need to boot to a windows PE and chkdsk it?
[23:26] <k1l> Sazpaimon_: what windows is it?
[23:27] <Sazpaimon_> 7
[23:27] <TJ-> Sazpaimon_: are you able to mount/read the file-system manually in a terminal?
[23:27] <Sazpaimon_> yep
[23:27] <Sazpaimon_> mounted as fuseblk on /mnt, so ntfs-3g is being used
[23:28] <lesley> Why is Ubuntu so slow?
[23:28] <Sazpaimon_> ntfsresize -i /dev/sdc2 says that the volume isnt clean though
[23:28] <k1l> Sazpaimon_: there is ntfsfix
[23:28] <lesley> Why does it hang when I log out?
[23:28] <Sazpaimon_> i ran ntfsfix on it, too
[23:29] <k1l> Sazpaimon_: is it still moounted?
[23:29] <bryceml> Sazpaimon_ try http://www.howtogeek.com/129021/how-to-do-a-full-shutdown-in-windows-8-without-disabling-hybrid-boot/
[23:29] <lesley> How do I log in as root?
[23:29] <Sazpaimon_> but i said I'm on windows 7
[23:29] <Sazpaimon_> k1l, nope
[23:29] <k1l> lesley: you dont
[23:30] <bryceml> same principle I think, I can't remember when they introduced hybrid boot.
[23:30] <lesley> Which Linux distro is on par with Ubuntu?
[23:30] <k1l> lesley: if you need root permissions in terminal you use sudo
[23:30] <Sazpaimon_> oh I ran ntfsfix with -b not -d
[23:30] <Sazpaimon_> still didn't change anything
[23:31] <Sazpaimon_> though now ntfsresize -i is saying there are cluster mismatches
[23:31] <lesley> Or better yet...
[23:31] <Sazpaimon_> so I guess i'll schedule a chkdsk on it
[23:31] <lesley> How do I make it so I don't have to enter my password all the time?
[23:31] <k1l> lesley: you dont have to all the time. it keep the password for 15 minutes in terminal
[23:32] <lesley> Why do I get a system problem on startup on a nearly fresh install?
[23:32] <lesley> How can I stop Ubuntu from locking up whenever I log out?
[23:33] <k1l> lesley: that seems to depend on your exact hardware  and software setup.
[23:33] <lesley> Is there any way to extend that time period?
[23:33] <lesley> Okay?
[23:34] <k1l> lesley: on terminal?
[23:34] <lesley> How do I fix it then, by buying a new laptop?
[23:34] <bryceml> you can remove the password requirement from sudo, I don't recommend it though http://askubuntu.com/questions/192050/how-to-run-sudo-command-with-no-password
[23:34] <lesley> Everywhere.
[23:34] <Sazpaimon_> okay, i scheduled a cluster check, time to reboot and see if that fixes it
[23:34] <k1l> lesley: that is just a plain stupid idea
[23:34] <lesley> Why?
[23:34] <k1l> lesley: because its a big part of the security setup on ubuntu
[23:35] <lesley> Against whom?
[23:35] <B0g4r7_> Wow, this system boots way quicker when it's not trying to also synchronize the underlying raid.
[23:35] <k1l> lesley: against anyone haveing hardware or software access to your machine.
[23:36] <lesley> So, ssh?
[23:36] <k1l> lesley: i wonder what you are doing all the day that needs root permissions
[23:37] <lesley> None of your business.
[23:37] <TJ-> lesley: "sudo -i"
[23:37] <lesley> TJ- I what about window prompts?
[23:38] <TJ-> lesley: huh? what do you mean?
[23:39] <TJ-> lesley: sudo is for use in a terminal shell, not in the GUI
[23:39] <TJ-> lesley: pkexec/gksudo are/were the things to use in the GUI
[23:42] <B0g4r7_> Maybe there's a pam module that lets you auth using a smartcard or something.
[23:44] <lesley> Maybe... or maybe I should choose another distro, one I can actually use.
[23:44] <lesley> Instead of having to autjenticate myself all the time.
[23:44] <k1l> if you dont like the ubuntu way, ubuntu is the wrong distribution to start with.
[23:45] <lesley> Obviously.
[23:45] <B0g4r7_> Don't all the OSs ask the user to authenticate fairly routinely these days?
[23:45] <TJ-> lesley: you can add an entry to the sudoers file to not require a password, with NOPASSWD
[23:45] <lesley> Define "routinely".
[23:45] <B0g4r7_> Depends what you're doing, but at least daily.
[23:46] <B0g4r7_> I suppose you could run MacOS 9.  That won't ask you to auth all the time.
[23:46] <lesley> Oh, can I?
[23:47] <effectnet> whats a good program to burn dvd's?
[23:47] <Sazpaimon_> alright, looks like a full chkdsk seemed to do the trick
[23:48] <k1l> i still wonder what one needs to run with root permissions on the gui all the time. but there are ways to use NOPASSWD.
[23:49] <lesley> Ways to use NOPASSWD - huh?
[23:50] <k1l> lesley: you are way to vague to get specific help. i told you that right on your first partial picture screenshot, that didnt give any informations to help you.
[23:50] <bryceml> xfburn works good for me for burning discs, or do you mean video dvd's?
[23:50] <B0g4r7_> There are probably ways to have a system that never asks for a password ever, but the system will probably give a bit of resistance to any efforts to make it like that, and will surely warn that doing so is a bad idea.
[23:50] <k1l> effectnet: brasero?
[23:51] <effectnet> k
[23:51] <B0g4r7_> brasero works wall for me for my disc writing needs.
[23:51] <B0g4r7_> works well too
[23:55] <slavka`> hey guys... i want to have a little script running in the background to watch all files, directories and subdirectories for file size changes and then run a command on those files..
[23:55] <slavka`> how can i do that?
[23:57] <bryceml> slavka: I would look at inotify
[23:58] <k1l> yep, inotify is for looking at changes of files.
[23:59] <TJ-> slavka`: in a script, inotifywatch or inotifywait depending on exactly what you need


[00:54] <santa_> good night from the city of Gotham everyone
[00:54] <santa_> RikMills: FYI I have pushed a fix for the akonadi B-D
[00:55] <santa_> and I still have to check that apparmor thing in kmail
[00:58] <santa_> also I think we will have a number of FTBFS with the current 20.08 versions we have in the archive + the new qt but I didn't have time to check properly yet
[00:58]  * santa_ dissappears in the darkness of the thing
[00:58] <santa_> * of the night
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[16:44] <Mamarok> is there a known issue with kernel -31 that SDDM is not starting? Both screens remain black (on 20.10 btw)
 Can be that your graphical chip is too fresh. Been in this situation many times


[22:30] <wxl> tsimonq2: do you know anything about OBI/9w?
[22:31] <wxl> i note the images are not hosted on canonical infrastructure and that said we should probably jettison those
[22:31] <tsimonq2> Hope
[22:31] <tsimonq2> *Nope
[22:31] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/AdvancedMethods#Alternative_installers
[22:32] <tsimonq2> wxl: Yeah, Purge The Hell Out Of It.
[22:32] <tsimonq2> In one button. :P


 Thanks (re @teward001: more reading for you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates)
 LP Bug #1912060 has been opened for the previously mentioned caribou issue


[05:48] <CIA-18> ubiquity: superm1 * r2174 mythbuntu-ubiquity/ (8 files in 6 dirs): merge with trunk
[05:50] <CIA-18> ubiquity: superm1 * r2175 mythbuntu-ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/mythbuntu/apply-type): set default mythtv theme to be mythbuntu custom theme
[05:58] <CIA-18> ubiquity: superm1 * r2176 mythbuntu-ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py): add back in mvo's patch to mythbuntu branch since it was accidently reverted with the last merge
[07:20] <CIA-18> ubiquity: superm1 * r2177 mythbuntu-ubiquity/ (3 files in 3 dirs): correct a few typos preventing xmltv from installing
[07:26] <CIA-18> ubiquity: superm1 * r2178 mythbuntu-ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/mythbuntu/mythbuntu-setup): launch mythtv-setup.real in a terminal window to allow xmltv to be used
[02:33] <subha> hi all,can anybody tell me, during net-installation time,if i dont mention one step (for eg. time zone selection) in preseed file then will d-i ask the user or it simply ignore that step ?
[08:27] <CIA-18> oem-config: cjwatson * r378 oem-config/ (configure configure.ac): bump to 1.24
[08:38] <CIA-18> oem-config: cjwatson * r379 oem-config/ (debian/changelog lib/frontend/gtk_ui.py): * Fix "Step 1 of 4" counter advancement (part of LP #153139, #153336).
[08:51] <evand> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/152737 is quite odd.  They're missing debconf-communicate in target, but it wasn't an ENOSPC
[08:51] <CIA-18> oem-config: cjwatson * r380 ppa/ (configure configure.ac debian/changelog): change version to 1.24~ppa1 for my PPA
[08:56] (CIA-18/#ubuntu-installer) oem-config: cjwatson * r381 ppa/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.24~ppa1


[10:19] <huayra> This channel used to be filled up with people...
[10:20] <huayra> anyway, if any of you is interested in advancing SpreadUbuntuand working with Jone on the Ubuntu Advocacy Kit to make Marketing kits forLoCo usage, then join the meeting today at 3pm UTC on #ubuntu-community-team


[13:04] <Brainstorm> Updates for Bangladesh: +368 cases, +13 deaths, +17463 tests (2.1% positive) since 22 hours ago


[02:07] <Eickmeyer[m]> Can confirm: Matrix already works. I worked with the Matrix people on the messages not making it across the bridge, and they seem to be getting that to fix.
[02:07] <Eickmeyer[m]> My account had a weird issue that helped them with that.
[02:07] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks, @azbulutlu
[02:08] <Eickmeyer[m]> It's just hard to support people across the bot, and for some remembering the syntax (putting the @ in front of the item to tag them and not having tab complete) are kindof issues.
 that's more than understandable.
[02:09] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: the main problem was that on the irc side All messages are from "studiobot" (with what we have now)
[02:10] <Eickmeyer[m]> So, I think I'll be working on closing the Telegram-IRC bot to the -offtopic and main channels while keeping it for development since it's easier, but finally linking the Matrix channels (which are bridged, except -offtopic which has an issue).
[02:10] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Unfortunately, the nature of Telegram makes it that way.
[02:10] <OvenWerks> That makes it really hard to to know which conversation one is following.
[02:11] <Eickmeyer[m]> Exactly, which is why it might be OK for dev collab, but not for support.
[02:11] <OvenWerks> It is also a pain that abc -tab doesn't work.
 is anyone except me using the bridge on devel?
 because if not....
[02:11] <Eickmeyer[m]> @azbulutlu, @teward001 uses it.
 ah ok
[02:12] <OvenWerks> huh... of course /n only shows studiobot, not the users behind.
[02:12] <Eickmeyer[m]> (intentional tag is intentional, teward :D
[02:12] <teward> :P
[02:12] <teward> i'm on IRC right now but I do use the telegram bridge
 xD
[02:12] <Eickmeyer[m]> There's a command syntax for teleirc, it just escapes me at the moment.
[02:15] <Eickmeyer[m]> While I've got everyone here (except Ross of course, and possibly wonko ) I just wanted to say how proud I am of everyone. Things have come leaps and bounds from where they were 2 years ago, and we're in a really good spot.
[02:16] <Eickmeyer[m]> I just hope more people step-up with support, because that's where we're lacking (and it's burning me right out!).
 yikes
[02:17] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'm not going anywhere, but I have been pushing IRC and askubuntu.com support channels (and now probably Matrix) and having people volunteer there.
[02:17] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'm also pushing 19.10 for people who want LTS since it's a small leap to 20.04 when it comes out.
[02:17] <Eickmeyer[m]> Let's face it: 18.04 was a dumpster fire.
 do you want me to reach out to some people. there are a few experienced users on mastodon side that tends to communicate there when people ask questions but not sure what availability is for people
 its not terrible, not with the backports
[02:18] <Eickmeyer[m]> @azbulutlu Absolutely. We need more participation in IRC as well as on askubuntu.com monitoring the ubuntu-studio tag.
 <--is still on bionic for main machine but planning a reinstall
[02:19] <Eickmeyer[m]> @azbulutlu Yeah, it's not terrible, but getting people to add the backports is hard enough.
[02:20] <Eickmeyer[m]> I'm going to be getting a blog post ready for the switch from Telegram to Matrix. I'll probably give it a week for people on Telegram to transition before I close the Telegram groups for support and offtopic.
 tag me when it is up
[02:21] <Eickmeyer[m]> @azbulutlu Will do. Also, it's really early in the morning for you, isn't it? :D
 and can we please add a plugin to the website to cross post to mastodon as well... :)and yep..
 ill poke tomorrow at my side of social media and see if we can get anyone. we especially need people on eu timezones right?
 and gnight. *crashes*
[02:26] <Eickmeyer[m]> @azbulutlu I'll see about the plugins. And, yes, we need EU timezones and Australia timezones. Most of the stuff that happens in there is when OvenWerks and myself are sleeping.
[02:26] <Eickmeyer[m]> @azbulutlu Good night!!  Get. Some. Sleep.
 Ill have some recommendations. I'll update my research and email that works for you gnight.
 :)
[02:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Moving -lowlatency-settings and -performance-tweaks in -default-settings from depends to recommends. With -lowlatency-settings being a dependency it's causing problems for people who might not want the lowlatency kernel as it can uninstall the entire desktop via "apt autoremove". Either way, it will still remain part of the default setup for the ISO.
[02:30] <OvenWerks> sure...
[02:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: You okay?
[02:37] <OvenWerks> Mostly, been some emotionally charged stuff around the home.
[02:37] <OvenWerks> Not bad bad, but difficult.
[02:38] <OvenWerks> One of my sons is having emotional difficulties probably related to chemical imbalance
[02:40] <OvenWerks> It is hard to live with is all.
[02:47] <Eickmeyer[m]> I can relate with that. I've got chemical imbalance issues myself. It's not easy, and getting people to understand isn't easy either. Sorry to hear you're going through this.
[02:49] <OvenWerks> anyway, -controls now has a gui for tablet buttons, tablet size and a pen tab... not sure what will be in the pen tab yet :)
[02:50] <OvenWerks> My son wants a button that switches the pen from pressure based to 1/0 and back.
[02:50] <OvenWerks> so sort of a preset for for pressure curves
[02:51] <OvenWerks> Don't know if you saaw my message serveral days ago...
[02:52] <OvenWerks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xf86-input-wacom/+bug/1857509
[02:54] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: I saw it. So, are we waiting on that bug or no?
[02:56] <OvenWerks> I am thinking of making a list of HW ids that should be there and making a ubuntustudio-* file on boot if any are detected or maybe just a file that includes them all
[02:56] <OvenWerks> gotta go...
[02:57] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Ok. Take care.
[04:13] <Eickmeyer[m]> @azbulutlu: Blog post is up. Got to the point straight-out, but offered Matrix as the replacement. So far, feedback has been good. I have revoked the group links for the Telegram groups (except Dev).
[17:08] <sakrecoer[m]> Thanks Eickmeyer !
[17:08] <Eickmeyer[m]> No problem, sakrecoer🕸🇸🇿 !
 i'mma have to get matrix i think but i think i had some headaches with that
[21:32] <Eickmeyer[m]> https://matrix.to/#/!POUKPGuLMlimpByftw:matrix.org?via=matrix.org is the Matrix link to this room, FYI.
[22:38] <sakrecoer> greetings!
[22:39] <sakrecoer> kryten DalekSec : you aprove of the command dax gave me?
[22:39] <sakrecoer> -> /msg chanserv flags #ubuntustudio-offtopic Eickmeyer+F*-OVb
[22:40] <sakrecoer> dax: i hope you don't mind if i ask like that. i don't really remember talking with you before and it was in #offtopic and all... <3
[22:41] <teward[m]> I think the core q is does IRCC want to give Eickmeyer full unrestricted control of the channel.  It would make sense but thats an IRCC internal decision
[22:42] <sakrecoer> that was my feeling aswell, hence why i ask before proceeding.
[22:42] <teward[m]> Because that command will give Eickmeyer the ability to set ops and flags and such independent of IRCC governance
[22:42] <teward[m]> I think this should get its own thread in IRCC sak
[22:42] <teward[m]> And be discussed by IRCC first and not necessarily publicly if theres internal concerns
[22:43] <teward[m]> I think IRCC woild want to retain founder for themselves and let Eickmeyer set a more limited set of powers but again thats IRCC’s call
[22:43] <dax> #ubuntustudio-offtopic isn't an IRCC core channel, so it's not within our purview
[22:43] <dax> #ubuntustudio and #ubuntustudio-devel are, hence us being involved there
[22:44] <teward[m]> ah cool
[22:44] <teward[m]> Wasnt sure the governance there dax :)
[22:44] <dax> i.e., we're involved in -offtopic as a matter of facilitating channel recovery, not under the aegis of appointing new chanops
[22:44] <dax> no problem, it's a subtle distinction
[22:44] <sakrecoer> thank you dax! would you be so kind to shoe me how i can verify your affiliation with the IRCC. I've gotten rusty on the procesdures
[22:45] <teward> I can verify that
[22:45] <teward> Since dax granted me my ops on #ubuntu-server and has been IRCC for a while
[22:45] <dax> well, a month :P
[22:45] <teward> This said, should be listed in their LP profile if i remember right
[22:45] <sakrecoer> i'm not sure how to verify that either, teward :/
[22:46] <teward> ... unrelated IRC exploded
[22:46] <teward> *salts Matrix*
[22:47] <dax> sakrecoer: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2019-November/001908.html
[22:47] <dax> it's also on my LP profile, but my LP profile is missing my IRC handle, i should fix that
[22:47] <teward[m]> I was about to say dax :P
[22:48] <DalekSec> sakrecoer: That'd transfer foundership to Eickmeyer, well if you include a space there.  I believe that's what you want?
[22:48] <sakrecoer> many thanks dax :)
[22:48] <dax> it'd add, not transfer
[22:48] <Eickmeyer[m]> teward001: IRCC already gave me OP access in this channel and #ubuntustudio, but -offtopic is outside their domain.
[22:48] <teward[m]> As dax just said :P
[22:49] <sakrecoer> greetings DalekSec ! good to ready you! yes that is what we wanted to achieve. :)
[22:49] <Eickmeyer[m]> teward001: Ah, didn't read down all the way.
[22:49] <teward[m]> :P
[22:53] <dax> sakrecoer: found my home password manager, https://launchpad.net/~rww is now updated (note the group memberships and IRC nick list). the entire council list is https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-irc-council/+members
[22:54] <sakrecoer> nice to IRC meet you dax :)
[22:54] <sakrecoer> many thanks for your help!
[22:55] <sakrecoer> mine is https://launchpad.net/~sakrecoer in case :)
[22:56] <teward[m]> https://launchpad.net/~teward if you need mine but Eickmeyer knows who I am and I think dax does too :P
[22:56] <teward[m]> returns to kicking around packages in his local builders
[22:56] <dax> (i would hope so, since i added you to LP groups :P)
[22:56] <teward[m]> :P
[22:57] <sakrecoer> nice to IRC-meet you yo teward[m] :)
[22:58] <sakrecoer> very nice to see so many users in here :)
[22:59] <teward> Well this IS the devel channel and a number of us contribute.  :)
[23:02] <teward> Eickmeyer: thanks by the way for the mention in the blog update about the state of Studio
[23:03] <teward> Always nice to get mentions for my helping out :)


[01:26] <xnox> ScottK: ajmitch: 1.49 is kind of relatively easy, it was a double with gcc-4.7 & boost transition (e.g. can't transition cause ftbfs due to boost, or gcc-4.7 or both). BUT it was relatively easy as it was done / progressing in Debian at the same time.
[01:26] <ScottK> Which is exactly why we don't want to be ahead of Debian.
[01:26] <xnox> Doing it on our on.... only out of the archive. It almost took 3-4 months to do it.
[01:27] <xnox> and there was synergy. Somehow I have more productive things to do than getting newer boost....
[01:28] <ajmitch> for some reason noone actually enjoys it
[01:29] <ScottK> ajmitch lies.  He enjoys it.  He just won't admit it.
[01:30] <xnox> ajmitch: ScottK: it's actually good fun & a way to rank up uploads.... (remember I don't get to upload stacks of kde/gnome/etc)
[01:31]  * ajmitch doesn't use C++ often enough to be able to solve problems that come up
[01:32]  * xnox actually doesn't know C++ but I did do patching in C++ but it's mostly "monkey see, monkey do" & templates backtraces confuse the hell out of me.
[01:45] <micahg> xnox: managed to get you ahead of ScottK
[01:45] <xnox> micahg: ?! where
[01:45]  * micahg :( that he's not in the top 50% of uploaders
[01:46] <micahg> xnox: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~stefanor/ubuntu-activity/
[01:46]  * xnox ponders if that includes zillion of sync I did for logan
[01:46] <ajmitch> I think it includes all syncs
[01:46] <micahg> only personal ones, not sponsored ones AFAIK
[01:46] <ajmitch> true
[01:47] <micahg> xnox: logan is ahead of you :)
[01:47] <xnox> micahg: ah so his syncs got credited properly then.
[01:48]  * xnox didn't expect to rank that high up
[01:58]  * ScottK didn't do that many uploads this cycle.
[04:46]  * micahg guesses we're stuck with gcc-4.5 in universe :(
[04:55] <shadeslayer> fun coincidence,
[04:56] <shadeslayer> I was in the top 50 uploaders when I came to my first UDS :P
[04:57] <shadeslayer> and I'm in the top 50 again and coming to UDS-R :D
[07:11] <dholbach> good morning