[00:00] <oerheks> it is a windows phone file, plain text.
[00:00] <ObrienDave> what program do you use to generate that file?
[00:00] <oerheks> What is a PBK file?
[00:00] <oerheks> Data file used by the Network Connections utility in Microsoft Windows, which is also referred to as the Remote Access Phonebook; stores saved dial-up connection settings, which include phone numbers, logins, and passwords; can save data for multiple connections.
[00:01] <ObrienDave> sounds like an Outlook address book?
[00:01] <faridodd1n> pbk file is a vpn connection to access a espicial site
[00:01] <oerheks> if you want to use it for a VPN connection, one needs to open that file in a text program, and use the info manually
[00:01] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/65040/setting-up-vpn-connection-only-pbk-file-windows-available
[00:02] <ObrienDave> oerheks to the rescue :)
[00:02] <oerheks> or get a linux version from that VPN provider?
[00:02] <oerheks> .ovpn or something
[00:02] <ObrienDave> yea, that's OpenVPN file extension
[00:03] <faridodd1n> no i dont want vpn i set it to connect a especial site is ssat.ir
[00:04] <faridodd1n> the site is www.sset.ir
[00:05] <faridodd1n> this site just open with his pbk connection
[00:06] <oerheks> it is all the info i have.
[00:06] <ObrienDave> sorry, I can't help with pbk files
[00:06] <sarnold> hmm, are you sure that the pbk thing isn't actually creating a VPN for you on windows? I can't get to that site myself..
[00:10] <faridodd1n> pbk connections can use for vpn but you can set it to access sites for security reasons
[00:11] <faridodd1n> this sites have private pbk to access it
[00:11] <oerheks> it is just a phone number, site rl, user name, password?
[00:11] <oerheks> did you open it in a texteditor?
[00:14] <faridodd1n> yes anyone have user and pass . yes i open it buy text editor but 4 and 5 pages full of code
[00:19] <ObrienDave> readable code or binary?
[00:20] <faridodd1n> readable
[00:23] <faridodd1n> I search the net but i can't solve this problem. not important.im use windows for it
[00:23] <faridodd1n> but I have one question
[00:25] <Aleric> Hi. What is the default version of gcc on ubuntu LTS at the moment?
[00:25] <faridodd1n> my laptop Dell 5010 core i3 is very hot with ubuntu and CPU all the time is 100
[00:26] <doug16k> `echo 1024 | sudo tee sysctl.conf` is crazy, right? -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM%20-%20Using%20Hugepages
[00:26] <oerheks> Aleric, easy t find on launchpad
[00:26] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/gcc/+packages
[00:27] <sarnold> heh, is it easy? :)
[00:27] <sarnold> it takes me forever to find it, even with a local archive mirror handy..
[00:27] <Aleric> ...still didn't find it
[00:27] <Aleric> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-lts  seems a dead end
[00:28] <sarnold> doug16k: yes, that's crazy
[00:28] <Jordan_U> faridodd1n: If you run "top" in a terminal it should show you the processes using the most CPU at the top of the list. What processes is that?
[00:28] <Aleric> still not found...
[00:28] <Aleric> nope.. not easy
[00:28] <Aleric> I can't find it oerheks
[00:28] <Aleric> oh, you gave the url anyway
[00:29] <Aleric> That page doesn't load
[00:31] <Aleric> So, can someone help me?
[00:31] <sarnold> Aleric: here we go https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-defaults
[00:31] <oerheks> heavy load on launchpad, it seems
[00:32] <faridodd1n> Jordan_U: I see the top and write root 786 100 . I try mint and elementary and all of them have this problem.at the end I install xubuntu and it's ok
[00:32] <Jordan_U> Aleric: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/gcc seems to show <IP_ADDRESS> .
[00:32] <Aleric> That is WAY too old :/
[00:32] <Jordan_U> Aleric: What are you trying to do?
[00:32] <Aleric> I was discussing with a friend whether it was 7 or 8
[00:33] <Aleric> Trying to decide whether or not I want/need to support gcc 7.x for my project.
[00:33] <Aleric> friend: Why would you want to support gcc 7.x?  Me: that is the default in ubuntu LTS?  friend: I thought that was 8.
[00:34] <Aleric> I ask here.. and you tell me it's 4.7
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Aleric: gcc 8 is available in universe. I'm not totally sure that what is provided by the gcc metapackage is the "default".
[00:35] <Jordan_U> Aleric: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/gcc-8
[00:36] <oerheks> <IP_ADDRESS> = 7.x.y
[00:36] <Jordan_U> Aleric: It seems that the default is 7.4.0, I'm not sure what the 4: is from.
[00:37] <cusco> thanks sarnold .. wireless was not tickets.. hmm I ticked it and set it no change
[00:37] <sarnold> Aleric: hopefully useful https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Fc9GZPjHhx/
[00:37] <oerheks> http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/17/ubuntu-package-version-naming-explanation/
[00:38] <oerheks> old but still valid
[00:38] <Aleric> Yeah, I just figured that out too... 7.4.0.  Which accepts -std=c++17 but doesn't provide std::from_chars :/
[00:43] <Jordan_U> oerheks: I don't understand how http://www.ducea.com/2006/06/17/ubuntu-package-version-naming-explanation/ explains the 4: in 4:7.4.0-1ubuntu2.3 .
[00:44] <oerheks> yes, this 4.- is a mistery too..
[00:44] <oerheks> from upstream above debian?
[00:49] <Jordan_U> Aleric: If you wait one month then the latest LTS release will be using gcc 9 :)
[00:49] <Aleric> oh
[00:49] <Aleric> *deleted what he was doing*
[00:49] <Aleric> deletes*
[00:50] <Jordan_U> Aleric: (Because 20.04 will be released, and thus will be the latest LTS)
[00:50] <Aleric> Guess I'll only support compilers that are really C++17 then.
[00:50] <Aleric> Thanks
[00:50] <Jordan_U> Aleric: You're welcome :)
[01:38] <Aurei> Dears, using liveusb, is posible to modify installed packages on it?
[01:38] <Aurei> Or is not possible, as it's using squashfs?
[01:38] <Aurei> i need to change the kernel to the latest one to test it on a notebook
[01:39] <sarnold> new kernel is probably too much
[01:40] <Aurei> due to it's dependances?
[01:40] <Bashing-om> Aurei: Can not change the actual .iso - is read only: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_9660 . But one can install packages as the system is in ram.
[01:44] <sarnold> what do these .list files show? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/bionic/daily-live/current/bionic-desktop-amd64.list
[01:46] <Aurei> i see, is there any bleeding edge solution, just to try the latest ubuntu kernel?
[01:47] <ObrienDave> you could try the daily builds
[01:48] <Aurei> Cool, found it! Thanks a lot
[02:15] <ses1984> i think something might be going wrong with my bluetooth at the system level, i have a bluetooth keyboard that seems to sometimes disconnect and when i try to troubleshoot it the bluetooth gui is kind of unresponsive
[02:16] <ses1984> is there a way to reset the bluetooth stack
[02:42] <Someguy123> are there any rsync mirrors for cloud-images.ubuntu.com ?
[02:44] <Someguy123> there seems to be tons of mirrors for cdimage.ubuntu.com and releases.ubuntu.com - but I can't find any for cloud-images.ubuntu.com
[02:44] <Bashing-om> Someguy123: Try: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/minimal/daily/ .
[02:45] <sarnold> Someguy123: that's probably a question for #ubuntu-mirrors -- BUT I suspect this changes way too quickly for it to make sense to try to rsync it all. it's meant to be consumed via simplestreams clients when images are needed
[03:01] <Someguy123> sarnold: hmm okay, I run a server host, and we also have file servers in the three european countries we operate in, so we like to mirror things that we might use, to save bandwidth
[03:01] <Someguy123> for cloud-images I couldn't find any mirrors, but at the least cloud-images.ubuntu.com does run rsync, so we can mirror directly from them
[03:02] <sarnold> Someguy123: my guess is this would consume vastly more bandwidth than just pulling the images that your users need, when they need them
[03:02] <sarnold> Someguy123: it might be worthwhile talking to our certified public cloud team if that is a lot more than I think it is ;)
[03:05] <Someguy123> sarnold: meh, we mirror a lot of random things :)
[03:05] <sarnold> Someguy123: cool :D
[03:05] <Someguy123> I've limited our mirroring at least
[03:05] <Someguy123> e.g. no powerpc / armhf / s890x images etc.
[03:05] <sarnold> Someguy123: that reminds me of many happy hours on sunsite or wustl back in the day...
[03:06] <Someguy123> those are completely useless to most people, including ourselves - no point wasting space
[03:06] <sarnold> I've got power9 *and* armhf in the house! (granted the armhf is turned off because the second time the pandaboard ate its SD card, like, eh, it was easier to fire up an AWS instance..)
[03:23] <Gryllida> Hello. What app can I use to view USB webcam? I have tried webcamoid, but its ui is confusing.
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> Gryllida: cheese, kamoso, guvcview
[03:35] <Gryllida> lotuspsychje: 'cheese' does not have an option to select the external camera, does it?
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> Gryllida: in preferences you can select a cam
[03:42] <Gryllida> lotuspsychje: screenshot, please? i don't see any preferences in cheese
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> Gryllida: https://imgur.com/a/XBOD8Kp
[03:44] <Gryllida> lotuspsychje: i'm using another wm, so that button is absent in my titlebar
[03:44] <Gryllida> i'd be a bit surprised if it didn't have a workaround for that
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> Gryllida: wich ubuntu version is that?
[03:44] <Gryllida> i removed everything and installed windowmaker
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> Gryllida: ok so you probably missing cheese's main menu heh?
[03:46] <CarlFK> there is a ping like command that shows current stats - so after 5 min I can let it keep running but see totals too.  anyone now what that is?
[03:47] <Gryllida> lotuspsychje: yes
[04:09] <gimmel> Hi all, I'm trying to get the unifi controller installed into Ubuntu. The Unifi guide gives a link to the mongodb website to install mongodb, but those instructions seem outdated or at least don't work. I've tried looking around for other guides on installing it, but I keep running into dep and version issues. Does anyone in here have mongodb running?
[04:10] <lilkuz2005> can anyone tell me if its possible to install the nvidia-340 legacy driver on 18.04? i keep getting xorg errors when i try it
[04:15] <Bashing-om> lilkuz2005: If you have the 18.04.1 install then: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[04:17] <gimmel> Here is my current conundrum with mongodb. apt list says that there are packages installed, but if I try to remove them, apt says they're not installed -> https://pastebin.com/MQVABSKq
[04:27] <Toxmi> Considering a huge directory with lots of sub-directories (these subdirectories may or may not have .git folder).  Is ther a tool (like git) which track just the changes made in the files in course of time?  I need such a tool similar to git but git store the contents and diff which I don't want for such a huge directory. I just want to have record of changes to files inside a direcotry (like
[04:27] <Toxmi> haveing statistics of changes over time).Considering a huge directory with lots of sub-directories (these subdirectories may or may not have .git folder).  Is ther a tool (like git) which track just the changes made in the files in course of time?  I need such a tool similar to git but git store the contents and diff which I don't want for such a huge directory. I just want to have record of
[04:27] <Toxmi> changes to files inside a direcotry (like haveing statistics of changes over time).
[04:27] <Toxmi> Sorry for double paste :(
[04:30] <jjbuggle> hey all.  I installed a new ssd drive.  I used a gpt partition.  When I start up, it says INVALID PARTITION TABLE!  I hit enter.  It goes to grub menu and seems to start ok.  Any idea what the issue is?
[04:31] <jjbuggle> hmm, maybe it is a bios issue, nm
[04:32] <xxxxxhax1rxxxxxx> o
[04:54] <al_nz1> Anyone here free to help me get a bash file running as a service
[04:56] <al_nz1> https://pastebin.com/EM2ywJY5
[04:57] <al_nz1> actually here it is with error
[04:57] <al_nz1> https://pastebin.com/x1NCAfaP
[05:00] <jjbuggle> i have free space on my ssd, but the installer wants to delete everything anyway.  Is there a way to get it to just use the freespace?  I'm not sure I know how to setup the partitions...
[05:00] <jjbuggle> prolly noone awake...
[05:02] <Ben64> well you didn't really give enough information and only waited 17 seconds
[05:02] <jjbuggle> heh, sorry
[05:04] <jjbuggle> im used to msdos partitioning, but someone advised me to go GPT with this new ssd.  Then it had bad partition error after i installed.  I realized that I don't really know how to setup GPT, so I'm trying to get ubuntu  to do it for me.  I have 2 partitions of data that I was hoping to save and want to use the rest of the space for xubuntu 18.04.  But, it only offers to wipe everything.
[05:04] <jjbuggle> but honestly, I should probably just do that, since I can just get the data again.  I have the old drive.
[05:06] <jjbuggle> is that enough info?
[05:29] <ufk> hi! i think my server crashed several times yesterday... does ubuntu saves a kernel panic log or something ?
[05:29] <lestac> https://es.aliexpress.com/item/4000100340969.html what think about that kit?
[06:08] <n-iCe> hello
[06:09] <n-iCe> how can I solve this errors https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3nbTB2C7jp/
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> n-iCe: cosmic is end of life
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> n-iCe: install a supported ubuntu version from the topic please
[06:15] <n-iCe> ooh
[06:15] <n-iCe> ok thank you
[06:17] <n-iCe> 18.04 is ok for no 64bits laptop?
[06:19] <faun> hi there
[06:33] <vlt> ufk: Usually after a kernel panic, nothing gets written anywhere. But you could things like `journalctl` and /var/log/syslog for something just before it happened.
[06:34] <ufk> ah ok thanks
[06:35] <vlt> ufk: One way to log even a kernel panic is an attached serial cable to a separate machine. I use ThinClients from the late 1990's for this :-D
[06:36] <vlt> n-iCe: If "no 64bits" means at least 32, then yes.
[06:43] <n-iCe> ok im back
[06:44] <n-iCe> how can I know my ubuntu version?
[06:45] <ufk> lsb_release -a
[06:46] <n-iCe> is 18.0.4 the lastest?
[06:46] <ufk> 19.10
[06:47] <n-iCe> ok downloading
[06:49] <ufk> 18.04.4 is latest LTS
[06:50] <n-iCe> ok and oto upgrade?
[07:17] <ramoalam> Hello
[07:17] <ramoalam> Is this the right place to ask for installation support ?
[07:22] <export> ramoalam: seems like the right place for ubuntu support, it's not -offtopic just go ahead and ask, it's a little dead here but you can try and see.
[07:39] <ramoalam> while trying to install Ubuntu 18.04 from a live USB (the system was previously Windows and I opted to erase Windows) I encountered the issue described in this (https://askubuntu.com/questions/771899/pcie-bus-error-severity-corrected) post. As instructed in that post, I inserted the line "pci=noaer" into the GRUB and managed to finally install
[07:39] <ramoalam> Ubuntu. The issue is that it only allowed me install it in OEM installation mode. I would really like to have a traditional install route, and understand what exactly was initially causing me this install issue. Is there anything I can do now that I have installed Ubuntu on my system (albeit in OEM mode) to reverse engineer what was causing the
[07:39] <ramoalam> issues in the first place, that would then allow me to fix the installation issues and install Ubuntu normally ? I have no issue doing a fresh install (I haven't used the new Ubuntu install yet).
[07:43] <john_rambo> I want to type in Bengali in LibreOffice Writer. How can I do that ?
[07:48] <amosbird> Hi, is there a command I can use to "cat" the content of a Word doc?
[07:48] <amosbird> docx
[07:53] <EriC^> amosbird: https://askubuntu.com/questions/364872/how-to-view-a-doc-from-command-line
[08:13] <amosbird> thanks
[08:20] <mohit006> ubuntu 19.1
[08:24] <mohit006> baronkrause: hi can you help me with ubuntu 19.11
[08:24] <mohit006> 19.1
[08:24] <geirha> it's 19.10, yy.mm
[08:25] <mohit006> i am a new user so please tell me how do i find it
[08:26] <geirha> how to get ubuntu 19.10? you go to https://ubuntu.com and click Download at the top menu bar
[08:26] <mohit006> well i have already installed it
[08:26] <mohit006> please help me with some issues
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> so ask your question mohit006
[08:29] <mohit006> i am having connectivity issues like either i can browse but cannot use software or use software but not able to browse on firefox it says secure connection problem
[08:31] <wawrek> hi there,
[08:31] <wawrek> can I replace gnome with xfce on ubuntu?
[08:32] <sixwheeledbeast> just use Xubuntu?
[08:33] <wawrek> really?
[08:33] <wawrek> I didn't know that?
[08:33] <wawrek> I will give it a try
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> !pm | mohit006
[08:38] <wawrek> ubottu: how do you mean? isn't this the main channel?
[08:38] <wawrek> ubottu: I won't ;)
[08:40] <wawrek> but can I permanently delete gnome  after installing xfce? Is ubuntu using gnome?
[08:40] <geirha> ubuntu uses gnome by default, yes
[08:41] <geirha> deleting gnome will be cumbersome, and xfce uses some gnome stuff too
[08:41] <geirha> It's also possible to have both installed. Then you choose which one to use at the login screen
[08:45] <Diezel> Anyone know how to change the regional formats to something like English (local). At the moment I have the local settings, Finland, but I really don't want to see the months in Finnish just becasue I'm located in Finland at the moment. Changing it to English US also changes the currency from € to $
[08:45] <wawrek> geirha: I wanted to get rid of gnome
[08:46] <wawrek> no need to have both of these on my system
[08:47] <geirha> well, you can install the xubuntu-desktop and remove the ubuntu-desktop package, any remaining gnome-pakcages that are not required by xubuntu-desktop after that should be in the list of "no longer needed" packages
[08:48] <geirha> I wouldn't attempt to remove any more gnome-related packages beyond that
[08:54] <visitohrg> leaving
[09:58] <sixwheeledbeast> Probably best to install Xubuntu over the top of your ubuntu installation
[09:58] <sixwheeledbeast> oh
[10:00] <mohit006> cannot play videos on mozilla ubuntu 19.10
[10:00] <mohit006> please help
[10:00] <NissanGTR_FanBoy> mohit006: that is sad
[10:01] <NissanGTR_FanBoy> mohit006: more context please
[10:01] <NissanGTR_FanBoy> mohit006: what videos? which version of Firefox?
[10:02] <NissanGTR_FanBoy> mohit006: did you try to use Chromium browser? Same result?
[10:02] <mohit006> firefox 74
[10:02] <mohit006> videos such as prime video player not working
[10:02] <mohit006> facebook videos not working
[10:02] <mohit006> havn't used chromium
[10:02] <NissanGTR_FanBoy> mp4?h265?
[10:03] <mohit006> not sure about the format
[10:03] <mohit006> must be mp4
[10:04] <NissanGTR_FanBoy> can you open the developper console on firefox, go in a page with a video that is bugging, and tell us if there is error shown in the console (you can use pastebin for this)
[10:05] <mohit006> NotSupportedError: MediaSource.addSourceBuffer: Can't play type
[10:05] <Gryllida> good
[10:05] <mohit006> he video on this page can’t be played. Your system may not have the required video codecs for: video/mp4; codecs="avc1.42E01E mp4a.40.2", video/mp4; codecs="avc1.4D401E mp4a.4
[10:09] <NissanGTR_FanBoy> did you installed the codec?
[10:09] <mohit006> please guide how to install
[10:11] <sixwheeledbeast> firefox maybe blocking playback due to its security settings, if it works with another browser maybe ask over in #firefox
[10:41] <barnex> Hi. I'm having trouble figuring out where all of my RAM is going. Attached my attempt to find heavy processes and I see no way this can acocunt for 20G used? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hNDBxGFw8s/
[10:43] <barnex> well disregard that
[10:43] <barnex> turns out if you add all the numbers the result is a big number
[10:45] <barnex> The followup question is, is it cool that ibus-portal and xdg-desktop-portal are eating 2.5GB mem each?
[10:46] <DrManhattan> it's not like windows mem usage
[10:46] <DrManhattan> but it does seem high
[10:48] <DrManhattan> oh nvm, I read that entirely wrong
[10:48] <DrManhattan> the list is reading how much total ram is being used
[10:49] <DrManhattan> each process is not using the amount of ram listed next to it
[10:49] <barnex> so I made the command wrong? I was trying to clump together things like chromium-browser that has 90 processes because obviously it does
[10:50] <DrManhattan> Yes, it's listing the total amount of ram used, not the amount of ram used by the process
[10:50] <DrManhattan> it increments
[10:50] <barnex> it only increments cause it is sorted I think
[10:51] <DrManhattan> 1.7G for spotify?
[10:51] <barnex> -P "^$proc" should filter
[10:51] <barnex> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Qdt4Pp7CBB/ here's the full unsorted output of that loop
[10:52] <DrManhattan> I don't think that is right either
[10:52] <barnex> might be, I wrote that loop myself with limited understanding of things
[10:53] <DrManhattan> it doesn't appear those memory amounts have anything to do with the program listed next to them
[10:53] <barnex> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kKHVXK6y95/ here's what gets counted for spoify
[10:56] <DrManhattan> I am aghast - either a bunch of those apps are leaking memory or the desktop landscape has changed a lot more than I thought
[10:56] <DrManhattan> 1.4G gnome-software
[10:56] <DrManhattan> you have to be kidding me
[10:56] <barnex> I think both, I tend to not reboot my desktop ever, uptime is 62 days
[10:57] <barnex> I might have restarted X once at some point during those days
[11:02] <barnex> Well that's how much it's using, it's just one process, so not much chance to be checking it wrong :P
[11:02] <barnex> 17594 barnex   /usr/bin/gnome-software --l     8.0K     1.4G     1.4G     1.4G
[11:02] <DrManhattan> yeah your code is fine
[11:02] <DrManhattan> there's something screwy
[11:02] <DrManhattan> something amiss
[11:02] <DrManhattan> afoot
[11:02] <barnex> it's actually trying to do something with some .deb I might have installed for zoom conferencing for some reason
[11:03] <barnex> I guess I'll just kill the gnome-software and not be much worse off
[11:03] <barnex> well thanks anyway
[11:14] <NissanGTR_FanBoy> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> NissanGTR_FanBoy: dont please
[11:14] <NissanGTR_FanBoy> sorry, my cat...
[11:15] <untakenstupidnic> would x.org come with 20.04 as an option?
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> untakenstupidnic: #ubuntu+1 for 20.04 support
[11:18] <sixwheeledbeast> It's still X in 20.04 anyway AFAIK
[11:20] <halvors> ubuntu doesn't nativly preload right? Is it recommended to install the preload package?
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> halvors: its reccomended yes
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | halvors optional==>
[11:21] <halvors> any reason it's not default?
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> halvors: you can make a wishlist bug if you want, ill affect it too
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:36] <independent> Can anyone help with XEN?
[11:36] <independent> xen: event channel open: No such file or directory
[11:36] <independent> 2020-04-01T10:27:27.305029Z qemu-system-x86_64: xen hardware virtual machine initialisation failed
[11:42] <AdrTru> Hey guys, whenever I close the lid on my Lenovo Ideapad S340 the touchpad jumps around weridly afterwards. How can I fix that?
[11:42] <AdrTru> *weirdly
[11:43] <AdrTru> anyone
[11:43] <AdrTru> ?
[11:45] <AdrTru> why is this channel so dead?
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> !patience | AdrTru
[11:45] <AdrTru> !sorry
[12:30] <kiopsup> Hi guys, I just rebooted my pc brutally and lost the possibility to set my second screen at 4k resolution. I'm using a amd GPU with out of the box driver on a x11 session. Any idea ? Thanks in advance
[12:33] <kiopsup> also xrandr only show 1280x800 maximum res
[12:48] <fedel> Hi everyone. I'd like to know if someone can help me to make my bluetooth headset mic work on my ubuntu. I've tried some things on forums but can't make it work. I''m using bluez/blueman to connect the device and it's aways connecting on a2dp sink. When I try to change the profile  on blueman, it returns an error. If I try it on the settings, it
[12:48] <fedel> doesn't do anything
[12:50] <jeremy31> fedel in blueman, set the audio profile to off, then use blueman to disconnect the device, then reconnect and see if you can set to HSP/HFP
[12:56] <fedel> jeremy31, didn't work. It shows the same error: failed to change profile to headset_head_unit
[12:57] <jeremy31> fedel: Might be a bluez/pulseaudio bug
[13:01] <koomen> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 18.04 and install rbenv, but when I do "rbenv install -l | grep 2.5" I only get "2.5.0-dev" and "rbx-2.5.0" until "rbx-2.5.8", how do I install 2.5.0+ on ubuntu?
[13:07] <fedel> jeremy31, Thanks. I'll try to check
[13:15] <gst568923> Hi guys, I have a problem of laptop black screen and the error is "[drm:uvd_v1_0_start [radeon]] *ERROR* UVD not responding, trying to reset the VCPU!!!"
[13:17] <gotcha> hi
[13:17] <gst568923> Yesterday a patch was released but my problem was not resolved https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1865130
[13:17] <gotcha> i have an ubuntu 12.04 vm running at home, is there a way to upgrade to latest?
[13:36] <braindead_> i installed a fresh ubuntu server and want to mkdir -p /opt/containers/{traefik,portainer} but permission denied. i am the only user with root rights. what am i doing wrong :(
[13:38] <braindead_> please forget that
[13:39] <pragmaticenigma> forget the sudo in front?
[13:39] <HuskyDev> Yeah, are you sure you entered sudo?
[13:57] <eindoofus> hi, does anyone know how to display file extensions in ubuntu? i was just trying to save an xls in chrome and it doesn't mention the type in the save prompt, and i later end up with what appears to be a zip file
[14:52] <ajm5700> is there something going on with repository signatures? I noticed a lot got updated today and I can't run apt update at the moment
[14:55] <oerheks> hi ajm5700, can you paste the output on paste.ubuntu.com please?
[14:57] <ajm5700> oerheks:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BbTm2wvwdz/
[14:58] <ajm5700> each of the ones that failed got a new INRELEASE file today
[14:58] <oerheks> ajm5700, maybe your mirror is in sync now; try again in a minute, if that does not fix,..
[14:58] <oerheks> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists && sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade  >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[15:00] <ajm5700> this is a docker container pulled this morning, there is nothing actually in the lists folder to remove
[15:01] <oerheks> oh docker, for that i have no clue ..
[15:01] <pragmaticenigma> ajm5700: You will have to check with the docker maintainer... those images are customized and the volunteers here do not know where the documentation for those images are. They are usually developed by 3rd parties with no direction to Ubuntu or Canonical community
[15:02] <ajm5700> this is ubuntu:18.04 which is maintained by Canonical
[15:03] <oerheks> yes, it is ubuntu, but not a canonical docker vm?
[15:03] <pragmaticenigma> ajm5700: Canonical does not produce any docker images... they provide premade cloud images that can be made into docker images
[15:05] <pragmaticenigma> and to make the cloud instances into docker, requires customization. Again, there is no published documentation, the volunteers here rely on the official documentation from Canonical to provide support. Without that, we don't know what is going on in that instance
[15:16] <eindoofus> i'm using a 4k tv as a monitor. is there a way to prevent some apps from opening maximized across the entire screen?
[15:17] <eindoofus> every time i open a spreadsheet in libreoffice it covers the entire screen
[15:31] <pragmaticenigma> eindoofus: I think libreoffice remembers how it was opened from the last time... try opening it directly (not via a document/file) un-maximizing it, closing it, then open again directly
[15:34] <g0tcha> hey guys, i have an ubuntu 12.04 running on a VM that i want to upgrade, what is the best way to do that?
[15:35] <pragmaticenigma> g0tcha: it will be faster to install 18.04 or 19.10 directly than to upgrade.
[15:35] <g0tcha> pragmaticenigma, i have a webserver and other web services running on it
[15:35] <pragmaticenigma> !eol | g0tcha otherwise follow the instructions in the link:
[15:36] <pragmaticenigma> g0tcha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades ... and good luck
[15:36] <g0tcha> pragmaticenigma, your 'good luck' doesnt sound very assuring hehehe
[15:37] <pragmaticenigma> g0tcha: It's not... there have been significant architecture changes through Ubuntu since 12.94
[15:38] <g0tcha> i was afraid of that
[15:38] <g0tcha> maybe i should look up on how to migrate apache etc from an older version to a new server install
[15:40] <pragmaticenigma> g0tcha: if it were me... i would start up a fresh 18.04 and migrate stuff over. Apache specifically has a lot of changes (especially in directory permissions settings) ... there is legacy support, but you will be better off taking the migration approach rather than the upgrade approach
[15:42] <g0tcha> pragmaticenigma, yeah, i might have to do that
[15:42] <g0tcha> thanks
[15:50] <imi> hi. in which directory does ubuntu store the default desktop background images?
[15:56] <pragmaticenigma> imi: /usr/share/background
[15:56] <pragmaticenigma> imi: * /usr/share/backgrounds
[17:02] <jvwjgames> Hello
[17:02] <jvwjgames> I'm trying to make a custom Ubuntu ISO that can be installed. How do I go about doing that?
[17:04] <oerheks> jvwjgames, there is cubic, https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image
[17:04] <oerheks> but this channel is not about help to make your own ubuntu mission, good luck!
[17:06] <jvwjgames> Ok thanks I have tried cubic
[17:15] <halvors> Is it a way to change to IEC prefixes instead of SI prefixes in Ubuntu?
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> halvors: is this useful   https://github.com/HenrikBengtsson/Wishlist-for-R/issues/6
[17:51] <halvors> MonkeyDust: I was thinking more of changeing unit in Nautilus.
[17:52] <pragmaticenigma> not the first time I've seen that question... and the rabit holes I've gone down... the units are hard coded by the Gnome team... there isn't a way to change them
[17:52] <pragmaticenigma> *there isn't an easy way to change them
[17:55] <halvors> pragmaticenigma: thx :)
[17:55] <halvors> so not a ubuntu issue.
[17:56] <CoolerX> how do you execute a shell script on double click?
[17:58] <pragmaticenigma> halvors: It could be proposed as a feature on launchpad, but Ubuntu tends to focus on the majority not smaller edge cases
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> CoolerX: start here   https://askubuntu.com/questions/64222/how-can-i-create-launchers-on-my-desktop
[18:01] <CoolerX> MonkeyDust, command not found
[18:02] <CoolerX> I am on ubuntu 18.04, I get "command not found" when I do alt + f2 and then type  gnome-desktop-item-edit --create-new ~/Desktop
[18:03] <CoolerX> I guess it isn't gnome desktop anymore?
[18:03] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerX: it is gnome desktop, but those instructions are very old
[18:03] <pragmaticenigma> the original post was 8 years ago
[18:04] <CoolerX> pragmaticenigma, "very old" anyone remember when the world was going to end in 2012?
[18:04] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerX: "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends gnome-panel" will enable the command
[18:05] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerX: I'm not a fan of this site, but in this case it seems to have a pretty accurate tutorial: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-create-desktop-shortcut-launcher-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[18:06] <CoolerX> pragmaticenigma, that installed but
[18:06] <CoolerX> now when I run the command it does nothing
[18:15] <CoolerX> pragmaticenigma, I don't have an icon
[18:16] <CoolerX> the file is just an executable I downloaded
[18:17] <CoolerX> pragmaticenigma, I think the executable might have an icon embedded inside it
[18:21] <pragmaticenigma> I don't know anything about selecting the icons... I know you can click the icon in the configuration tool to change it to something else. if the executable has one embedded you might be able to select the executable and see if the tool can automatically extract out the icon. otherwise, I think it will default to a collection of available icons that hopefully suit your needs
[18:27] <CoolerX> thanks
[18:32] <Fjorgynn> va
[18:35] <suprhm76> Client: HexChat 2.14.2 • OS: Ubuntu "eoan" 19.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3337U CPU @ 1.80GHz (2.53GHz) • Memory: Physical: 5.5 GiB Total (3.1 GiB Free) Swap: 5.6 GiB Total (5.4 GiB Free) • Storage: 318.0 GB / 486.8 GB (168.8 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller • Uptime: 1d 4h 47m 1
[18:35] <suprhm76> 8s
[18:41] <elge> hi there.  I wonder what patches are applied to stterm package for building.  Where could I have a look to check it?
[18:44] <sarnold> elge: the 'easy' way to get it is to duplicate your 'deb' lines in /etc/apt/sources.list* files, adding matching deb-src lines; then you can run apt source stterm
[18:44] <sarnold> elge: you can grab the files from launchpad, too https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/stterm/0.8.2-1
[18:49] <elge> sarnold, thanks
[18:53] <jonvonb> So now when I unlock my screen I get an "Authentication Required" dialog in the top left that cannot be moved or dismissed. It says authentication is required to run gvfsd-admin daemon.
[18:55] <jonvonb> Weirdly, I can "click through" the dialog and access GUI elements behind it.
[18:55] <jonvonb> This is on 19.10
[18:57] <sarnold> jonvonb: what release?
[19:00] <MonkeyDust> jonvonb: I have that too, for gvfs... I simply use 'anonymous' and it works for the exteran hdd... the ssd requires a password however
[19:00] <noob_on_rails> hey all, i have a really weird problem, my 18.04 stopped recognizing a lot of my installed programs that were working perfectly fine till this afternoon :O , last thing i remember doing was installing the chrome-gnome-shell
[19:00] <jonvonb> I noticed some updates available. Gonna apply those and reboot first to see what happens.
[19:00] <noob_on_rails> doing stuff like which firefox returns nothing!
[19:00] <noob_on_rails> anyone experienced something similar ?
[19:01] <jonvonb> This is new behavior. Been on 19.10 since the week it was released
[19:10] <Smashcat_> Anyone know how to boot Ubuntu 19.10 into text mode? I made the mistake of installing the Ubuntu nvidia driver, so it now can't boot to the gui
[19:10] <Smashcat_> the old grub 'e' method no longer works
[19:12] <Bashing-om> Smashcat_: The recovery console from grub's boot menu exist for reasons like this.
[19:13] <Smashcat_> It used to, yeah :)
[19:14] <Bashing-om> Smashcat_: Under "advanced" there are no recovery kernels ?
[19:15] <Smashcat_> No. After hitting ESC to get into grub, it now just shows "grub>" and waits for a command.
[19:15] <Smashcat_> Meh, I'll just reinstall :)
[19:16] <mlokpc> How can I set a binary as ExecStart in systemd?
[19:17] <lordcirth> mlokpc, just point to it's absolute path.
[19:17] <lordcirth> It probably needs to be executable
[19:18] <mlokpc> lordcirth: thanks
[19:19] <noob_on_rails> anyone on my issue? I'm really clueless...
[19:20] <sarnold> noob_on_rails: check /var/log/dpkg.log* files to see what changed recently
[19:20] <sarnold> noob_on_rails: perhaps you accidentically uninstalled a bunch of important things
[19:21] <noob_on_rails> sarnold: hmmm, pff maybe you're right cause i was messing with openssl trying to figure out something
[19:21] <noob_on_rails> let's see
[19:21] <sarnold> heh yeah, people trying to replace openssl for whatever reason is a common cause of busting things pretty badly
[19:22] <relipse2> installed mysql-server-5.7 package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
[19:23] <relipse2> I'm trying to install mysql server but it's not working
[19:24] <Bashing-om> relipse2: pastebin for the channel ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; dpkg -l mysql-server-5.7 ' .
[19:25] <Smashcat_> Almost done reinstalling - must remember, don't EVER install display drivers :)
[19:35] <noob_on_rails> sarnold: i might be in deep trouble :/
[19:35] <sarnold> noob_on_rails: uhoh. what else got removed?
[19:36] <noob_on_rails> umm
[19:36] <noob_on_rails> https://gist.github.com/frcake/2823fd1954443bc1e95138eafbb5862a
[19:36] <noob_on_rails> i did a lot of install & uninstall of openssl while trying to create a specific key
[19:37] <noob_on_rails> and thought the version was causing trouble
[19:41] <sarnold> noob_on_rails: ouch. alright, hold on a bit..
[19:42] <noob_on_rails> it's messy :(
[19:42] <noob_on_rails> thanks for helping out sarnold
[19:44] <sarnold> noob_on_rails: here's the list of packages that were removed: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7RRXkzrZ9J/
[19:44] <relipse2> Bashing-om: http://dpaste.com/1WYTCD5
[19:45] <noob_on_rails> sarnold: should i like apt install them?
[19:45] <sarnold> noob_on_rails: can you get to that link? if not we could try other resources.. anyway, I *hope* an apt install of that long list will help get you towards fixing this
[19:45] <sarnold> yes
[19:45] <relipse2> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[19:45] <oerheks> that is, if apt is still valid
[19:46] <noob_on_rails> oh ok let's see , yea i could read it, the formatting was all in a straight line but all good
[19:46] <noob_on_rails> oerheks: apt is ok!
[19:46] <noob_on_rails> also kvirc is ok (the client im using to connect to freenode)
[19:46] <Bashing-om> relipse2: Did update/upgrade run clean ? show no issues ?
[19:46] <noob_on_rails> i used apt to install chromium so i can search for the problem :/
[19:47] <oerheks> oof, that is good :-)
[19:47] <relipse2> Bashing-om: http://dpaste.com/11FQ4YY
[19:50] <Bashing-om> relipse2: I am not too good at guessing games. Paste bin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' to remove my doubts.
[19:52] <sarnold> oerheks: luckily apt uses gnutls rather than openssl; otherwise we'd have *loads* of folks with outright unfixable systems
[19:53] <relipse2> Bashing-om: ok here you go: http://dpaste.com/1WZEBMB
[19:54] <noob_on_rails> brb restart
[19:57] <relipse2> what do you think Bashing-om
[20:01] <noob_on_rails> sarnold: thanks so much! i think it's mostly back to normal :D :D
[20:01] <noob_on_rails> i had some problems with the postgres installation but i'll resolve them
[20:01] <sarnold> noob_on_rails: sweet! :)
[20:02] <noob_on_rails> at least i can work for thursday and friday and if i find it defective, format over the weekend, thanks again!
[20:02] <sarnold> if you got it this far, a reinstall probably won't be necessary
[20:02] <noob_on_rails> oh ok
[20:02] <sarnold> that reboot did worry me, I wondered what else might have been missing, from before the log entries, heh
[20:03] <Bashing-om> relipse2: Well ! You were way behind :) .. reboot and show us in a pastebin ' uname -r ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt -f install ' .
[20:03] <noob_on_rails> no, everything looks normal, the only program that lost it's saved preferences is firefox
[20:03] <noob_on_rails> atom, slack, mailspring, reminna are all ok
[20:03] <Phruis> hey peeps
[20:03] <Phruis> with dolphin can i change my drive names?
[20:04] <sarnold> noob_on_rails: ugh :( -- that might be worth a report. is your firefox a snap package?
[20:04] <Phruis> 3.6 TB Hard Drive isn't very descriptive when you have more than one
[20:04] <relipse2> Bashing-om: how do I reboot
[20:04] <sarnold> noob_on_rails: I don't know if I'd expect purging and reinstalling snap to leave snap preferences alone or not. hrm.
[20:04] <Phruis> relipse2, type reboot in the terminal
[20:04] <noob_on_rails> sarnold: umm I don't really remember tbh :D
[20:04] <noob_on_rails> sarnold: yea it's ok, easy fix
[20:05] <noob_on_rails> phew that was close :D heheh
[20:05] <noob_on_rails> thanks again sarnold! have a good one!
[20:05] <sarnold> you too noob_on_rails :)
[20:05] <oerheks> Phruis, yes, when they are unmounted, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive#Changing_the_Label
[20:05] <Phruis> oerheks, thanks
[20:05] <Bashing-om> relipse2: relipse2 ' systemctl reboot ' .
[20:05] <oerheks> not so via a filemanager, but then again, why would that be an option.
[20:06] <relipse2> Bashing-om: Doesn't work, i'm on WSL: System has not been booted with systemd as init system (PID 1). Can't operate.
[20:07] <Bashing-om> relipse2: Never seen WSL - can not advise further.
[20:08] <relipse2> Windows Subsystem Linux
[20:08] <Bashing-om> !wsl | relipse2
[20:14] <relipse2> Bashing-om: ok here http://dpaste.com/17XMA8D
[20:16] <Bashing-om> relipse2: what results ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.7 ' ?
[20:16] <relipse2>  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server-5.7 is broken or not fully installed
[20:17] <relipse2> do I have to use a differnet port or something?
[20:17] <relipse2> like 3307?
[20:18] <Phruis> i think it is broken or not fully installed
[20:19] <relipse2> right but how do I fix it?
[20:19] <Phruis> relipse2, did you use the mysql documentation?
[20:20] <Phruis> they have a config tool to set mysql to the version you desire
[20:20] <Ben64> should really be asking in the wsl channel
[20:21] <Phruis> sudo dpkg -i mysql-apt-config
[20:21] <Bashing-om> relipse2: Try ' sudo apt -o DPkg::options::=--force-confmiss --reinstall install mysql-server-5.7 ' .
[20:21] <Phruis> dev/mysql.com/get/ <--version
[20:22] <relipse2> : Internal Error, No file name for mysql-server-5.7:amd64
[20:23] <Phruis> https://dev.mysql.com/downloads/repo/apt/
[20:24] <Bashing-om> relipse2: As advised .. seek help in the WSL channel.
[20:24] <relipse2> There are only 14 people in that channel
[20:25] <relipse2> And none of them havenswered me
[20:25] <Ben64> well you're not running linux so it's not super relevant to be asking here
[20:26] <relipse2> its ubuntu???
[20:26] <Phruis> gray area
[20:26] <relipse2> Phruis: ok i downloaded it, how do I install it
[20:26] <Ben64> definitely not a linux kernel, so i'd say it's not really ubuntu
[20:27] <Phruis> you gotta add the repo add gnupg then run sudo dpkg -i mysql-apt-config*
[20:27] <Phruis> you probably dont have 5.7 installed
[20:27] <Bashing-om> relipse2: Ben64:: 4.4.0-18362-Microsoft :(
[20:28] <Phruis> for example my system has mysql 8 on it
[20:28] <Phruis> depending on your version of "WSL/Ubuntu"
[20:28] <Phruis> if it is 18.04 whatever it defaults to
[20:29] <Phruis> you gotta configure your apt repo sources and that package takes care of the magic for you
[20:30] <relipse2> what do I do with this file: mysql-apt-config_0.8.15-1_all.deb I downloaded it from oracle
[20:30] <relipse2> on the page which you linked
[20:35] <oerheks> oracle blob on ubuntu.
[20:36] <relipse2> dpkg: error processing package mysql-server (--configure):
[20:36] <relipse2>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[20:37] <relipse2> Errors were encountered while processing:  mysql-server-5.7
[20:37] <relipse2>  mysql-server
[20:38] <oerheks> yes? why the 8 series for a 5.7 ...
[20:38] <Bashing-om> !info mysql-server-5.7 bionic | Phruis - relipse2
[20:38] <oerheks> lolz
[20:39] <pragmaticenigma> I don't believe the .deb files will work under WSL... even if they do... this channel does not support them relipse2
[20:40] <relipse2> Why is this so difficult? I just want to install php 7.2 mysqli extension so I can connect to mysql on my windows machine
[20:41] <pragmaticenigma> relipse2: why not use the PHP installer for windows instead and stop adding layers of complexity to your workflow
[20:41] <sarnold> relipse2: the linux subsystem of the windows kernel is amazing work but *not* linux; you could rent a VM from a cloud provider for a few bucks a month, or install a VM tool yourself on a system you own, to run *linux*, which would then let you do all the usual linux things on it
[20:42] <sarnold> relipse2: or just repurpose a system to run a linux directly
[20:43] <relipse2> because gearman is only available for linux
[20:45] <sc0utonlinux> what exactly does alt + click on a window do ?
[20:45] <pragmaticenigma> so you are trying to shoe horn an application that is not intended to run on WSL... You really should read documentation. WSL is intended to be a sys admin tool, not a full time runtime for your software. Do it right, install to a linux machine, or create a VM with Ubuntu installed. Don't think WSL is going to be the shortcut to solve your problem. It's not. It isn't supported here because it isn't a direct byte-for-byte copy of
[20:45] <pragmaticenigma> Ubuntu. It is a striped down, undocumented copy that Microsoft put together. That is why as before, you were told it is not supported here.
[20:45] <sc0utonlinux> I get like a crosshair with a red dot when i do it
[20:48] <relipse2> I was just following instructions on https://www.freecodecamp.org/news/setup-a-php-development-environment-on-windows-subsystem-for-linux-wsl-9193ff28ae83/
[20:48] <relipse2> they seemed to do it ok
[20:51] <sarnold> sc0utonlinux: it depends upon the application and window manager
[20:51] <sarnold> sc0utonlinux: some window managers use alt+drag to move windows
[20:51] <sarnold> sc0utonlinux: some applications use alt+drag for their ownpurposes -- like rectangular selections in urxvt
[20:51] <sc0utonlinux> sarnold: i think that's what it does with me .. how can i change this behaviour ?
[20:52] <sc0utonlinux> its stopping me from using photoshop in virtual box .. cause it doesn't allow me to alt click
[20:52] <pragmaticenigma> relipse2: the truth is, volunteers on this channel rely and require the official documentation for Ubuntu as provided through Ubuntu's official support and documenation channels. There is no such documentation for WSL on any of the Ubuntu/Canonical official pages. the volunteers of this channel have in the past deemed that without documentation, support cannot be provided. that is why you were sent to the WSL specific channels.
[20:52] <pragmaticenigma> It is unfortuantely the was no one there to help you, but that is the appropriate place to be seeking out help as the members there have taken the time to learn and understand WSL and are willing to help each other out.
[20:52] <sarnold> sc0utonlinux: normally VM things have a way to 'grab' pointer and keyboard to try to prevent other X clients from doing anything with them -- does your VM system allow "grabbing" in this way?
[20:53] <relipse2> ok thanks for trying to help me
[20:54] <sc0utonlinux> sarnold: it does .. but i've been investigating a known bug .. with Kubuntu where it seems to overwirte this functionality
[20:54] <sc0utonlinux> for example the host key will open the windows menu as well as the kubuntu menu .. the soltion in the discussions whas to re assign .. the host key button on Ubuntu..
[20:54] <oerheks> photoshop works best in full screen mode, not windowd
[20:55] <sc0utonlinux> and Ubuntu was refusing to accept it as a bug because .. its blaming virutal box for not being programmed correctly
[20:55] <oerheks> grinn, wineHQ could tell you
[20:55] <sarnold> sc0utonlinux: yes, that does sound like a virtualbox bug to me, too, heh
[20:55] <sarnold> sc0utonlinux: they ought to be able to grab the input devices to prevent that, if they wanted to, anyway
[20:56] <sc0utonlinux> apparently it's a known issue for years .. and both Virtual box and Ubuntu just keep blaming eachother and nothing gets done .. sooo
[20:56] <sarnold> sc0utonlinux: *maybe* it's a bug in however kubuntu is written, but it'd surprise me
[20:56] <sarnold> sc0utonlinux: tried libvirt?
[20:56] <oerheks> mo, it is a user problem for years...
[20:56] <sc0utonlinux> here ia m looking to re-asign my alt key to function differently
[20:57] <sc0utonlinux> sarnold: i havn't tried libvirt .. im a bit afraid of it
[20:57] <sc0utonlinux> I was previously advised against it because im still a noob
[20:58] <sarnold> heh, weird, I found it way easier to use than virtualbox last time I tried that.. switching between them doesn't sound like great fun, but shouldn't be impossible
[21:00] <sc0utonlinux> sarnold: so you would recommend Libvrt ? would I be able to import my current VMs? and does it have a Gui ? or is ti all command line?
[21:01] <sc0utonlinux> Alternatively I could try and find that alt hotkey and re-assign it in Kubuntu .. problem is I haven't been able to find the setting...
[21:21] <sarnold> sc0utonlinux: yes, I would recommend libvirt -- the virt-manager program provides a gui if you want one
[21:24] <Ben64> sc0utonlinux: pretty sure i recommended libvirt to you
[21:27] <sc0utonlinux> Do either of you have a guide for a noob to install ?
[21:27] <sc0utonlinux> is it the same as KVM ?
[21:27] <oerheks> !kvm
[21:29] <sc0utonlinux> ill give it a go
[21:29] <sc0utonlinux> thanks
[21:42] <Klinda> hello, I runned gparted live with legacy boot and find this https://imgur.com/a/l0Ahk3C, so no system is installed in this machine? It had windows 10 and 'select boot device failed' or hardisk 03f problem with uefi mode. With legacy mode will not boot too
[21:48] <AlmarShenwan> hi, can i get help?
[21:48] <AlmarShenwan> i installed ubuntu.. wirking fine, after reboot there is only blank screen (i have asus, nvidia video card)
[21:48] <AlmarShenwan> hot to fix?
[21:48] <AlmarShenwan> how to fix?
[21:54] <sarnold> Klinda: that's what that looks like, but with the difference between uefi and legacy, I'm not 100% certain
[21:54] <sarnold> AlmarShenwan: if you hold down the left shift key while booting, do you get a grub menu?
[22:10] <Phruis> relipse2, it is difficult because you have never used linux before from the sounds of it and you are trying to do some dev ops probably
[22:10] <Phruis> i suggest you follow a tutorial or a guide
[22:10] <Phruis> it will be more helpful and explain the whole process
[22:11] <sarnold> Phruis: heh, that's what got relipse2 to WSL in the first place, following a guide :)
[22:11] <relipse2> I  use linux
[22:12] <relipse2> i have an ubuntu machine sitting next to me
[22:12] <relipse2> but i'm not an expert
[22:12] <Phruis> how do you install deb files?
[22:12] <Phruis> this is fundamental
[22:13] <Phruis> using the gui and using the command line are very different
[22:13] <MrCuddles> Pretty much a complete linux noob. If I'd like a process to keep running even after I log off (containers running in docker to be more specific). Anything in particular I need to do?
[22:16] <TheFu_> sudo apt install path-to-file.deb
[22:16] <matsaman> MrCuddles: starting via GNU Screen or tmux would be one simple way
[22:16] <sarnold> MrCuddles: tmux or screen would let you more or less keep the same workflow you've got now; but I have to imagine there's a way to launch a bunch of containers at boot via systemd units, perhaps containderd instead or similar?
[22:16] <matsaman> MrCuddles: if you're thinking of it like a service, though, you might write an init script/service file
[22:17] <matsaman> yeah
[22:17] <TheFu_> Phruis, there are liabilities in directly installing .deb files. Best to stay with official repos whenever possible.
[22:18] <Phruis> TheFu_, sure but when you are setting something up for a client/employer it isn't always an option especially with an existing project which is what I am assuming
[22:19] <Phruis> 5.7 is required if you want to have a dev environment that is comparable to google cloud for example
[22:19] <oerheks> why not use the repo version ..
[22:19] <oerheks> it is supported
[22:20] <Phruis> relipse2, ^
[22:20] <oerheks> oh wait, he is using WSL
[22:21] <MrCuddles> My desired workflow is basically: log on, make modifications to my docker images as needed, run them, log off. And then, hopefully, have to worry about them as little as possible. :)
[22:22] <matsaman> MrCuddles: the two most straightforward approaches have already been said
[22:22] <matsaman> in stereo =)
[22:23] <oerheks> MRwhat guide do you follow?
[22:23] <matsaman> although I don't use docker much on GNU/Linux; you should probably check that they don't remain running without any extra steps
[22:24] <MrCuddles> Screen or tmux. Got it! Thanks!
[22:25] <matsaman> or writing an init script/service file
[22:25] <matsaman> no harm walking before running, though
[22:26] <TheFu_> Phruis, Understood, but directly installing .deb files brings in all sorts of undesirable liabilities. If the system will never be updated and not on any network, fine.
[22:26] <matsaman> screen -S docker; command to start docker business; CTRL+a, d (CTRL+a, release, d) to detach; screen -d -r docker (to re-attach)
[22:26] <matsaman> MrCuddles: ^
[22:27] <matsaman> although if you forget to detach, that's fine it'll be fine
[22:30] <sc0utonlinux> is there a channel where i can get help Libvrt ?
[22:30] <sc0utonlinux> or can I ask here?
[22:30] <MrCuddles> Thanks for the info! :) Taking a quick look at service files
[22:31] <TheFu_> sc0utonlinux, libvirt or libvrt?
[22:34] <sc0utonlinux> TheFu_: oh dear there is a difference ?
[22:34] <sc0utonlinux> i think i installed Libvirt
[22:35] <sc0utonlinux> sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm libvirt-daemon-system libvirt-clients bridge-utils
[22:35] <sc0utonlinux> yes Libvirt
[22:35] <TheFu_> Details matter.
[22:35] <sc0utonlinux> TheFu_: as always in life ... but Im very badly dislexic so I am at a strong disadvantage :(
[22:35] <TheFu_> In general, we don't use libvirt directly.  We use virt-manager or virsh to interact with it and VMs.
[22:36] <sc0utonlinux> TheFu_: Yes ! That's what I have open right now
[22:36] <TheFu_> Which?
[22:36] <sc0utonlinux> I've just migrated from Virtual box and I'm trying to replicate my network setting that I had before
[22:37] <TheFu_> I setup bridging OUTSIDE any virtualization. Long ago, the built-in libvirt networking stuff was less than great and I've never changed that habit.
[22:37] <sc0utonlinux> TheFu_: I have Virtual Machine Manager open and managed to import my Virtual box Machine after converting it
[22:37] <sc0utonlinux> TheFu_: any guide I can read ? on how to do so ?
[22:38] <oerheks> !netplan
[22:38] <TheFu_> Depends on the version of Ubuntu Server you are running.
[22:38] <sc0utonlinux> TheFu_: i'm on simple Kubuntu desktop ..
[22:38] <TheFu_> Need numbers.
[22:38] <sc0utonlinux> i'm running Photoshop on a windows Guest
[22:38] <sc0utonlinux> 19.10
[22:39] <TheFu_> Sorry, cannot help with 19.10. We only run LTS and are skipping 18.04 completely.
[22:40] <TheFu_> I have some notes on netplan and setting up bridges. Haven't tried in a few yrs to get it working.
[22:40] <TheFu_> https://fabianlee.org/2019/04/01/kvm-creating-a-bridged-network-with-netplan-o
[22:40] <TheFu_> n-ubuntu-bionic/ has notes.
[22:42] <sc0utonlinux> All I really want to do is share a folder between guest and host and disable the internet on the guest vm
[22:43] <sc0utonlinux> maybe the network solution i used on Virtual box isn't the easiest solution for Libvirt
[22:43] <Phruis> maybe a web based interface is better?
[22:43] <Phruis> with qemu
[22:44] <Phruis> kvm
[22:44] <TheFu_> I've never wanted that, but usually would use NAT - the default libvirt network setup - if I need that.
[22:44] <TheFu_> There isn't any way to share storage without using normal netowrking.  USe NFS between the hostOS and any guests. Normal, standard, NFS.
[22:45] <TheFu_> To my knowledge, there isn't any vboxsf-like driver, which is actually good.  The vboxsf solution has always been pretty poor.
[22:45] <sc0utonlinux> not even like a USB stick ?
[22:45] <TheFu_> USB passthru needs exclusive access, not shared between the guest and host.
[22:45] <sc0utonlinux> oh man
[22:46] <TheFu_> I always just use ssh, scp, sftp, rsync, sshfs between unix systems when I don't have NFS setup between them.
[22:47] <TheFu_> ssh is how unix systems work together. Learn it. Know it. Love it.  SSH is freakin' amazing.
[22:47] <sc0utonlinux> I like SSH
[22:47] <TheFu_> IMHO.
[22:47] <sc0utonlinux> but I'm running a Windows Guest
[22:47] <pavlos> sc0utonlinux: share folder between host<->VM qemu ... https://cialu.net/qemu-kvm-on-ubuntu-and-sharing-files-between-host-and-guests/
[22:47] <sc0utonlinux> pavlos:  thank you :)!
[22:49] <TheFu_> sc0utonlinux, I'm so sorry for you. ;)  Then I'd use CIFS - or WinSCP.
[22:50] <TheFu_> Or something like "wormhole"
[22:50] <sc0utonlinux> pavlos: that's only between Linux systems .. not between Linux and Windows
[22:51] <sc0utonlinux> TheFu_: use those to create a network shared folder ? or use them to do what ? I can google but a little more direction would be great
[22:51] <pavlos> sc0utonlinux: just read that you ca nenable RDP on win guest and then use remmina from linux to connect to, and transfer files. Let me send the link
[22:51] <pavlos> sc0utonlinux: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/165554/shared-folder-between-qemu-windows-guest-and-linux-host
[22:52] <sc0utonlinux> pavlos: ah great your a star let me check it out
[22:53] <default_> cd ..
[22:53] <default_> doh!
[22:54] <TheFu_> RDP doesn't work on Win-Home.
[22:55] <TheFu_> IF the Linux side has ssh-server running already, just get WinSCP for Windows and use sftp.
[22:56] <TheFu_> sftp feels like "plain FTP", but doesn't share credentials unencrypted.  sftp uses ssh for encryption and authentication.
[22:59] <pavlos> sc0utonlinux: another suggestion is to install teamviewer on both linux host and win guest and transfer files
[23:00] <TheFu_> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/wormhole-fast-secure-way-send-files-users-cli - Wormhole
[23:01] <TheFu_> https://winscp.net/eng/docs/getting_started - WinSCP
[23:02] <pavlos> sc0utonlinux: install RDP wrapper in win home ... https://www.itechtics.com/remote-desktop-windows-10-home/
[23:02] <TheFu_> http://blogs.perl.org/users/smylers/2011/08/ssh-productivity-tips.html
[23:03] <sc0utonlinux> TheFu_: this sFTP might be a good option .. however I don't want to allow the Windows guest access to the internet .. is that still possible ?
[23:03] <sc0utonlinux> so intranet only access
[23:03] <sc0utonlinux> maybe ill just block access on my router .. and have a shared network folder that's accesible by both
[23:03] <TheFu_> Anything is "possible."
[23:04] <TheFu_> Just depends on your time, effort, skill.
[23:04] <sc0utonlinux> TheFu_: that's a good philosophy :)
[23:04] <TheFu_> ;)
[23:04] <TheFu_> Being possible and being a good idea are seldom the same things. ;)
[23:05] <sc0utonlinux> im gonna save this chat there are a lot of cool solutions and programs being listed ..lots of stuff i've never heard about before
[23:05] <sc0utonlinux> TheFu_: also very true ..!
[23:05] <TheFu_> I'd just have the hostOS block all outbound connects from the NAT subnet used by the VM guests.  You can have multiple NAT subnets.
[23:06] <sc0utonlinux> TheFu_: using firewall settings of Host ?
[23:07] <sc0utonlinux> im very new to all of this .. so you gonna really have to dumb it down :P
[23:08] <TheFu_> I'm not a GUI user and always have to look up firewall stuff. Plus, network configs on 18.04 and newer releases is beyond my knowledge.
[23:09] <sc0utonlinux> TheFu_: like no GUI at all ? that's quite hardcore
[23:09] <TheFu_> Linux isn't like Windows. Skills build on prior skills. It is very hard to jump into the middle of intermediate level stuff without first learning to crawl.
[23:10] <TheFu_> sc0utonlinux, no it isn't. Unix servers don't have GUIs.
[23:11] <TheFu_> It also means there aren't 100 different GUIs all being 20% answers to any issue and being dropped, changed every 2-4 yrs.  If you learn the server method, you have almost always learned the generic method for all desktops too.
[23:12] <TheFu_> So ... I'm back to the easy answer ... run ssh-server on the Unix machine and use WinSCP from the Windows machine to access the files - pull or push. Your choice.
[23:12] <TheFu_> You could have already been done.
[23:13] <sc0utonlinux> I will try this TheFu_ thank you for your input
[23:46] <r3dux> can someone simply explain the difference between "building from source" and "make install"?
[23:53] <kk4ewt> that is installing from source
[23:57] <CashDash123> Can I ask a question about the build log for a kernel here?