[00:00] <vedrit> Can I not share extra drives, which are found in the /media directory?
[00:03] <Jordan_U> hakuga I have never used Foobar 2000, and haven't used Amarok much, but for a very customisable player Amarok is probably a good choice.
[00:05] <hakuga> ok thanks Jordan_U
[00:06] <paul_beginner> a lot of help pages tell me to install the ubuntu restricted extras from the softwarecenter. now when I start the install, ubuntu says I need to remove two items first. not so sure what to do now :S
[00:06] <vedrit> Ok, I was looking through the log for samba, and when I try and connect to the shared drive from my Windows machine, I see "param/loadparm.c:9114(process_usershare_file) process_usershare_file: stat of /var(Long directoy listing)/shared drive failed. Permission denied."
[00:07] <Jordan_U> paul_beginner: What two packages?
[00:07] <PoolShark_1> hi
[00:08] <basant> hello everyone. this is simply eating my brains. I can see a text file ( generated via my guest ubuntu in vbox on host win 7). It never even hiccups when I open the file and issue a print but if I try to set up an automated printing all hell breaks loose. Can someone help me get the automatic printing setup or pointers for it  esp how to include another folder in the win 7 spooler.
[00:10] <Guest61520> how do i turn on my wifi switch from the terminal???
[00:11] <vedrit> I think I see the problem with samba. It says it's the master browser for subnet <IP_ADDRESS>, which is the local IP for the machine
[00:11] <paul_beginner> 1. Libav codec library
[00:11] <paul_beginner> libavcodec53
[00:11] <paul_beginner> 2. Libav utility library
[00:11] <paul_beginner> libavutil51
[00:11] <FloodBot1> paul_beginner: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:12] <Jordan_U> !rootirc | root__
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, So what is your motivation for using aptitude?
[00:14] <paul_beginner> since its the first time I run ubuntu i read through some help2install pages and the suggested me to install the package.
[00:14] <paul_beginner> they
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, As new user t I would not advise it, I have never used it in 6 years, lool closer at these sources and the dates, you are getting into an arae that will do nothing but cause a new user troubles, and an exsperienced user headaches.
[00:16] <paul_beginner> okay thanks :) then I just let it as it is
[00:16] <PoolShark_1> I'm having mdadm RAID UUID issues: http://pastebin.com/2EvxxULq ... seems the wrong UUID is being picked up from /dev/md0 for some reason
[00:17] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, AS far as the libavcodec53 I would make sure the restricted extras get installed that is all you basically need.
[00:18] <sifu_> why would rm -rf folderName not remove the folder but keep giving this error: cannot remove folder name is a directory?
[00:18] <wilee-nilee> paul_beginner, http://askubuntu.com/questions/153884/why-does-ubuntu-restricted-extras-want-to-remove-some-libav-packages
[00:18] <paul_beginner> ty
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> no problem it can be confusing. paul_beginner
[00:19] <wilee-nilee> !details | sifu_
[00:19] <paul_beginner> especially when you're used to windows simple stuff haha
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[00:20] <pumafied> paul_beginner: "simple"
[00:20] <paul_beginner> going to bed now :) thanks for all the help. see you tomorrow I guess
[00:21] <vedrit> How do I install from a downloaded tar.gz?
[00:21] <reisio> vedrit: install what?
[00:21] <vedrit> I'm trying to install a teamspeak server
[00:22] <reisio> you can install teamspeak-server from software center
[00:22] <sifu_> wilee-nilee I tried removing a folder that has multiple subfolders that may or may not be empty, it is 12.04. The command I used is this: rm -rf folderName. The output i get is this: rm: cannot remove 'folderName/folder1': Is a directory
[00:22] <vedrit> Well, for curiousity's sake, how would I go about installing a downloaded tar.gz
[00:22] <PoolShark_1> sifu_: do you have the necessary permissions to delete folder1?
[00:22] <sifu_> i am root
[00:22] <sifu_> still same issue
[00:23] <reisio> vedrit: well, a tar.gz is a lot like a zip file
[00:23] <reisio> vedrit: 's'got stuff in it
[00:23] <reisio> vedrit: depends on what's inside how you'd install it
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> sifu_, What OS is this?
[00:23] <vedrit> Hmm....
[00:23] <sifu_> Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit.
[00:24] <wilee-nilee> sifu_, When you say I am root do you mean from the terminal?
[00:24] <sifu_> yes
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> sifu_, Cool, not sure why you would be removing stuff that way, are you sure you have a clue in this area. ;)
[00:25] <sifu_> yes
[00:25] <sifu_> was working just a while ago
[00:25] <h00k> vedrit: If it's something to compile, you can check notes at !compile, but it really depends on what is inside
[00:25] <cjopcjop>  /window log on
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> well as long as you think so, I'm not sure you do.
[00:25] <sifu_> just having a nightmare trying to setup the vagrant box with ubuntu
[00:25] <h00k> !compile | vedrit
[00:26] <vedrit> Anyway to know if it's already compiled?
[00:26] <unvrect> hi to all. How can I make a usb drive read-writable on a Live distro? I already tried with -o remount,rw
[00:27] <Jordan_U> sifu_: Does this happen with any directories or only one specific problematic directory?
[00:27] <sifu_> hmm have not tried on other directories
[00:28] <Jordan_U> unvrect: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/mounts and the output of "dmesg". Most likely the filesystem is damaged and needs to be fixed before it can be mounted rw.
[00:28] <sifu_> hmm
[00:28] <sifu_> okey
[00:28] <lgc> hi, how can I rescue my Windows partition without restoring my machine and blowing away my Ubuntu?
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Can you give more details
[00:29] <Jordan_U> lgc: Why does your Windows partition need rescuing?
[00:30] <dr_willis> get windows working first tben worry about ubuntu
[00:30] <pumafied> Jordan_U: It always needs rescueing with linux (;
[00:30] <wilee-nilee> !fud | pumafied
[00:31] <lgc> wilee-nilee, Jordan_U, after I installed my Ubuntu it won't start. There's an entry on the grub menu (actually, the Windows partition appears to be on /dev/sda2(!!) and the recovery partition on /dev/sda1. The latter brings me to the machine recovery menu).)
[00:31] <pumafied> I dont think that really applies to what I said
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> pumafied, The two posts you have made have no support attached this is support, not opinions or chat.
[00:32] <dr_willis> lgc:  so if you boot sda1 what does it do?
[00:32] <sifu_> Jordan_U it was something to do with the vagrant mess up…logged in from vagrant and could delete it
[00:33] <sifu_> thanks anyway
[00:33] <pumafied> I suppose where is ubuntu chat I would have assumbed #ubuntu would be the chat
[00:33] <dr_willis> windows normakky has its own version of a biit partition and its main os partition
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> pumafied, #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[00:33] <lgc> dr_willis: "Windows is loading files...". Starting Windows -> Gateway Recovery Management.
[00:33] <pumafied> Ah thanks
[00:34] <dr_willis> lcg so  sda1 is the gateway restore partion.
[00:34] <dr_willis> lcg sda2 is your c: drive?
[00:34] <lgc> dr_willis: It shouldn't, should it?
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> lgc, This a manufacturers install of windows and what release?
[00:35] <dr_willis> lgc:  if gateway made it that way.. yes
[00:35] <lgc> dr_willis: /dev/sda1 should be the normal Windows partition, I gather.
[00:35] <dr_willis> lgc not allways
[00:35] <lgc> It's Windows 7, wilee-nilee .
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> lgc, More tha likely th boot partition, that may be what dr_willis means
[00:36] <dr_willis> mount the partitions and look and see whats on them to find out
[00:36] <lgc> dr_willis: how so? I resized Windows, but I haven't moved it around.
[00:36] <damianos> How can I change the x11 cursor theme manually as in without any gui or desktop environment specific utility?
[00:37] <dr_willis> damianos:  i saw ways to do that on the arch lunux wiki pages last week. ;-)
[00:37] <lgc> dr_willis: I can't mount /dev/sda1
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Have you moved the boot flag, also known as the active partition in windows?
[00:37] <lgc> wilee-nilee: not that I remember...
[00:37] <dr_willis> lgc  you may want to be asking about this in  #windows  also
[00:38] <quackers> evening peeps!
[00:38] <ismdeep__> e
[00:38] <damianos> pity that doesn't show up in google
[00:38] <lgc> dr_willis: Thanks, I'll do that if I don't get the help here, of course.
[00:39] <quackers> I was wondering if somebody could give me a terminal command that would confirm which of my graphics cards I am currently using?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> lgc, I would run the bootrepair app, just the bootinfo summary and post the generated url here, it will give a lot more info. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[00:39] <dr_willis> damianos:  i found it via google i recall
[00:39] <vedrit> Alright, so it turns out the Teamspeak server just needed to be extracted, but when I execute one of the included .sh files, it says the included executable is not executable. Anyone familiar with TS3 servers?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> quackers, What up homey. ;)
[00:39] <quackers> wilee-nilee, how are you?
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> good

[00:40] <quackers> excellent
[00:40] <dr_willis> vedrit:  so make it executable.
[00:40] <vedrit> Oh, right, haha
[00:40] <quackers> wilee-nilee, I'm unsure which graphics card Ubuntu is using - it's on a macbook pro retina
[00:40] <dr_willis> !permissions
[00:40] <vedrit> Except... it won't let me
[00:40] <damianos> ok well we all know by now that what google serves up to you in a search will be different than what they show me. Anything I've found always points to ~/.Xdefaults. I'd like to do it globally and make it the default for my desktop environment
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> quackers, You have ubuntu installed?
[00:40] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Thanks, let me take a look at it!
[00:41] <quackers> yes boss
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> quackers, Lok with lspci
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> look
[00:41] <quackers> wilee-nilee, lspci lists the nVidia card but I don't think the system is using that one - need to confirm
[00:41] <dr_willis> damianos: arch linux wiki covered that i recall. i just stumbled upon it for another guy
[00:42] <damianos> k, I'll go look again
[00:42] <damianos> thanks
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> lgc, The bootinfo summary is all you should run to begin with we can see whats up without a ton of questions just post the generated url.
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> quackers, Is that a dual graphic card thing, I'm not really up on graphic drivers.
[00:42] <quackers> wilee-nilee, yes, neither am I :-)
[00:43] <dr_willis> apples have optimus? not noticed  that befor
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> quackers, If your looking for real abuse use the mac channel, and mention ubuntu. ;)
[00:44] <quackers> wilee-nilee, I'll pass on that, thanks :-)
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> I don't think apple uses optimus just wondered is all
[00:45] <quackers> no, not optimus, just an onboard card and a nvidia GT650m
[00:45] <quackers> it's a retina macbbok pro
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> quackers, nice to see you, time for din din here, gotta hit the Thai food cart close by.
[00:48] <quackers> wilee-nilee, ok, have fun! Nice to be back here!
[00:53] <lgc> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6008538/
[00:53] <vedrit> I can't seem to force the executable to be executable by anything
[00:54] <Extreminador> hi guys
[00:55] <reisio> hi Extreminador
[00:55] <Extreminador> how can i open the options menu in firefox ?
[00:56] <quackers> Extreminador, what exactly do you want to change?
[00:56] <Extreminador> i would like to open the last pages i was on vefore turn off firefox
[00:57] <Extreminador> like is i have 3 sites open last time... when i open next i wuld like to open them again
[00:57] <edgesaurus> im sorry dave
[00:57] <quackers> Extreminador, have a look in the history tab - there's an option I think to re-open the last windows
[00:57] <vedrit> dr_willis: I have user ownership over the files and folders, but when I enter in the commands to add execute permission, it doesn't seem to stick
[00:58] <SikZwei> Hi, I have Anthy installed but I seem unable to use it, pressing Ctrl+Space does nothing, and trying to switch through the menu doesn't work either. At some point I got it to switch, but Anthy got stuck and ate 100% CPU time. I think it broke after a recent update. Can somebody help me? This is important, I talk to Japanese people on a daily basis.
[00:59] <Extreminador> quackers let me check
[00:59] <trism> SikZwei: does it work in say, gedit? when you mentioned this the other day I noticed I can't get mozc to work in gnome-terminal anymore (and it was working a while ago), but it still works in gedit
[01:00] <quackers> Extreminador, if you close FF then re-open it and then look in the history tab you'll see the option iirc
[01:00] <SikZwei> trism: let me check, I think gedit may have been how it locked up
[01:00] <SikZwei> trism: nope, not anymore either
[01:00] <histo> Extreminador: ctrl+h
[01:00] <SikZwei> But now I can't even get it to switch to Anthy and lock up like I did yesterday, so :/
[01:01] <Extreminador> ahhh i see what you mean
[01:01] <Extreminador> it will not open automaticaly...
[01:01] <Extreminador> but ok it's a good tip yehh
[01:01] <SikZwei> Also I saw a bug report regarding a similar issue from like a week ago or so, I can't seem to find the link again though x_x I think it may be the same issue though.
[01:01] <Extreminador> it was not this what i was looking for but... guess it will have to do for now
[01:02] <lgc> wilee-nilee: what gives?
[01:02] <SikZwei> Does anybody else have any clues on the Anthy issue?
[01:03] <vedrit> Even when I try to add execute permissions as Root, it doesn't seem to make any difference. I still can't execute the file
[01:03] <SikZwei> ...disregard what I said, Anthy is eating up all CPU time again and I haven't even switched to it yet -_-'
[01:04] <histo> vedrit: what file and what are you trying to do?
[01:04] <histo> !bug | SikZwei
[01:04] <vedrit> histo: ts3server_linux_amd64, I'm trying to get my TS3 server going
[01:04] <SikZwei> histo: 1) there's already a bug report it seems, 2) I want something to fix it now (even if that means somehow reverting it to its previous state)
[01:04] <histo> vedrit: chmod u+x whatever
[01:05] <histo> SikZwei: perhaps read the bug report for a possible solution.
[01:05] <SikZwei> It had no replies :/
[01:05] <vedrit> tried it. When I checked with ls -l, it still listed as not being executable
[01:06] <histo> SikZwei: the programs website perhaps? or askubuntu.com
[01:09] <dr_willis> the file is not on a vfat or ntfs filesystem is it  vedrit ?
[01:09] <vedrit> Oooh....it's on a NTFS drive
[01:09] <dr_willis> vedrit:  bingo.....
[01:09] <vedrit> drat...
[01:10] <dr_willis> you can make EVERY file on a ntfs executable
[01:10] <dr_willis> but thats even more annoying
[01:11] <dr_willis> executable jpgs and gifs and txt and zip.... :'(
[01:11] <vedrit> But they won't take the executable permission
[01:11] <dr_willis> you CANT chown ir chmod  on ntgs or vfat
[01:12] <dr_willis> you must mount them with the right options
[01:12] <SikZwei> *sigh* Just used ubuntu-bug and hoping it gets fixed quickly >.>' Will try again later
[01:12] <vedrit> Oh, I see
[01:12] <dr_willis> to do it
[01:12] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[01:12] <dr_willis> the ntfs-3g  docs and faq detail this
[01:13] <dr_willis> put the files on a ext2/3/4  is easier
[01:14] <vedrit> yeah, that's what I did. Far simpler
[01:18] <yuanqihua> hello
[01:20] <yuanqihua> why no one speak
[01:20] <reisio> yuanqihua: hi :)
[01:21] <reisio> I was just starring in a major motion picture, is why I wasn't speaking :)
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Looks to me like your windows OS has been overwritten, is it still there from ubuntu?
[01:25] <dr_willis> Oh noes.  that would be.. annoying.
[01:25] <wilee-nilee> lgc, You are definitely missing this /Windows/System32/winload.exe
[01:25] <dr_willis> normal windows installs these days got a boot partion, a rescue partion, a rescue data partion, then the actual windows os partion dont they?
[01:26] <dr_willis> they like to use 4 primaries to annoy us linux users ;(
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> yeah
[01:26] <dr_willis> #1 thing to do on a new windows install is make a dvd-restore disk set.  but its sad how often thats not mentioned to the end user.
[01:27] <wilee-nilee> I clone then back up the clone on all installs
[01:28] <dr_willis> i buy a  ssd to put in the box for linux. and lock the windows hd away under armed guard.. in case it tries to escape. ;)
[01:28] <wilee-nilee> I hate asking for hep
[01:28] <dr_willis> last laptop i got.. suprused me.. it had a 2nd hd slot. :) so the ssd was a added bonus
[01:29] <xibalba> if i use LVM, can I add a second disk to my system and expand my root partition onto that 2nd disk?
[01:29] <xibalba> say i have a 10GB / partition, I need 20GB more space.
[01:30] <xibalba> bringing the total of / to 30GB
[01:30] <dr_willis> !lvm
[01:30] <dr_willis> I see so many people have issues with LVM and raid. i avoid  them ;)
[01:30] <xibalba> dr_willis, thanks for the link. but is LVM what i'm looking for to accomplish this?
[01:31] <xibalba> well definetly not going raid, thinking for a virtual machine
[01:31] <xibalba> what i'm trying to figure out is if i give one of my users a ubuntu 16GB template and they run out of space
[01:31] <xibalba> i want to be able to use the vmware guest os customization tools to call the 'pre-init' section
[01:31] <xibalba> and maybe throw some LVM commands in there to expand the disk
[01:31] <dr_willis> i thought lvm and raid went together like peanut butter and  Jalapeno Jelly. the work best when together.
[01:31] <xibalba> as opposed to using fdisk to resize the partition
[01:32] <xibalba> definetly dont want to use raid on a guestOS(VM)
[01:32] <dr_willis> you can always move some of the directories off of / and onto a 2nd partition
[01:32] <xibalba> right, i have to operate under the assumption my users are stupid
[01:32] <dr_willis> a VM may have options to just resize the hd.
[01:32] <xibalba> they're developers not sysadmins
[01:32] <xibalba> it does, i can resize disk #1 to be a larger disk
[01:32] <xibalba> however that will require modifying the partition table
[01:32] <xibalba> trying to make it as automated as possible
[01:33] <xibalba> so i'm wondering if i should try and use fdisk/growfs, or LVM
[01:33] <xibalba> personally i've always strayed away from LVM
[01:33] <dr_willis> I think ive seen some vm's that do it from outside the vm. so it does it all for you. but i really dont use the stuff that much either
[01:33] <xibalba> since i'm a sysadmin i've never needed it
[01:33] <UnderSampled> in the firewall settings, my rules are showing up red
[01:33] <UnderSampled> does that mean they're working, or not?
[01:33] <xibalba> UnderSampled, use nmap to test
[01:33] <UnderSampled> if not, why and how do I fix it?
[01:33] <UnderSampled> nmap doesn't show it open
[01:33] <dr_willis> why make the hd so tiny in the first place? most vms use dynamic allocation. and the hd image file is only as big on the disk as it needs to be..
[01:33] <xibalba> dr_willis, yea vmware wont use it
[01:34] <xibalba> right, thin provisioning. except i'm charging for the space utilization
[01:34] <dr_willis> i only use vbox. ;)
[01:34] <xibalba> of total allocated not used
[01:34] <xibalba> vbox is OK, but not enterprise grade
[01:34] <dr_willis> got a real job to do. bbl.
[01:34] <xibalba> later
[01:34] <UnderSampled> xibalba: it seems to be not open. any Ideas on what to look at to diagnose?
[01:34] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Hmmm...
[01:35] <xibalba> no sorry i dont use host based firewalls
[01:35] <lgc> What's the cure, wilee-nilee?
[01:36] <explodes> My computer at foo.com is on the same network as, call it, bar.com, but bar.com doesn't have public ssh access whereas foo.com does.
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> lgc, If you are missing the windows install you will have to reload a backup/image/clone or reinstall, is sda1 the recovery partition? It is hard to tell from here what has actually happened, without some info from you.
[01:37] <explodes> I ssh'd into foo.com and did ssh -f<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-L 9000:bar.com:80 -N, and on my local, I did ssh -f<EMAIL_ADDRESS>-L 9000:foo.com:9000 -N
[01:37] <explodes> I was sure to do: sudo ufw allow 9000/tcp
[01:38] <explodes> Now, if I open my browser and go to localhost:9000 I should get bar.com:80, right?
[01:39] <explodes> I dont, instead I get 2 or 3 lines "connection refused" in the terminal I started the tunnel in
[01:39] <lgc> wilee-nilee: what info do you need?
[01:41] <wilee-nilee> lgc, I think you may be better in ##windows, however if you can't mount sda1, and seem to not know what it actually is we are sort of stuck. I can see you are missing some key files just to boot, but it looks to me like your missing the whole OS, you might get another opinion.
[01:42] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Did you try to access sda1 from ubuntu?
[01:42] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Yep.
[01:43] <wilee-nilee> lgc, And it wont mount?
[01:43] <xibalba> i hot added a disk to my system
[01:43] <xibalba> but it's not showing /dev/sdb
[01:43] <xibalba> do i need to some how init a rescan of /dev/ ?
[01:43] <histo> explodes: http://sshmenu.sourceforge.net/articles/transparent-mulithop.html
[01:43] <lgc> wilee-nilee: It has this strange "PQSERVICE" Label, according to Gparted.
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> lgc, How many gigs is it?
[01:44] <xibalba> is there a -server ubuntu channel?
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> xibalba, #ubuntu-server
[01:44] <RooQ> Hey guys, anyone know of a good ide enviroment for c++
[01:44] <xibalba> excellent
[01:44] <lgc> 32, wilee-nilee.
[01:44] <wilee-nilee> lgc, YOu mentioned resizing windows was it sda1 and did you do it with gparted?
[01:45] <lgc> Yes.
[01:45] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Ah, bad idea, windows has its own partitioner, I think you have broken it, you might ask in ##windows for any chances of recovery.
[01:46] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Hmmm...
[01:46] <dr_willis> i also find windows much much faster at resizeing its own ntfs then gparted is.
[01:46] <lgc> Isn't gparted up to the task?
[01:46] <lgc> In fact, dr_willis. It took forever.
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> lgc, basically windows has unmovable files that gparted is glad to move, it knows no better, gparted can be used but with some pre-requisites
[01:47] <dr_willis> if you resized sda1, and shrunk it.. then you had space btween sda1 and sda2.. it may  be sda5 or sda6
[01:47] <dr_willis> it all depends on whaat you had to begin with.
[01:47] <lgc> Theres's in fact a 2 MB space between sda2 and sda3, dr_willis
[01:47] <wilee-nilee> dr_willis, Only 4 primaries two ntfs and a ext4 and swap there.
[01:47] <histo> explodes: http://earthwithsun.com/questions/315523/ssh-connection-between-two-behind-nat-computers-through-third-public-ip-computer
[01:47] <dr_willis> a space is common these days to align sectors or somthing
[01:49] <explodes> hmm
[01:50] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Did you transfer the main C partition to another partition the sda1, sda2 is th e boot and the sda1 is labeled as a recovery
[01:51] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I'm afraid I don't quite get your question.
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> lgc, The set up is unusual, generally sda1 would be a boot partition, and sda2 the os and a recovery partition and a firmware partition on a manufacturers install. The sda1 is labeled as the recovery in the script, it just seems out of order and mislabeled. Is this a clone, was it a oem, what is the history here?
[01:54] <lgc> No, wilee-nilee. It's an original install.
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> even a straight disc install would make sda1 the boot partition
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Installed by who?
[01:54] <explodes> histo: Close, I am using different topologies
[01:55] <histo> explodes: the second link I sent you seems to be what you described to me. -R is what you are missing on one end most likely
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Never the less I think your in recovery mode at best here if at all possible I doubt that can be fixed to work.
[01:55] <explodes> k
[01:56] <wilee-nilee> that's just a personal opinion though
[01:56] <lgc> wilee-nilee: OK.
[01:56] <Extreminador> guys can i follow this tuturial --> http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-enlightenment-17-e17-on-ubuntu-13-04/ <-- to install the Enlightenment desktop enviroment ?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, e17 is in the repos.
[01:57] <lgc> Thanks a lot, wilee-nilee, dr_willis.
[01:58] <Extreminador> wilee-nilee sow i can i install it... ?
[01:58] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, Might be a newer version in a PPA, however PPA's are technically not supported here.
[01:58] <Extreminador> ups *"how can i"
[01:58] <gnerd> anybody use chubuntu? know a good list of apps that work on ARM?
[01:58] <explodes> channel 4: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> Extreminador, sudo apt-get install e17
[01:59] <lgc> By the way, wilee-nilee, If I restore with the Gateway partition, will I get a functional Windows without the need of an install disk?
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Not sure what a gateway partition is
[01:59] <histo> !derivative | gnerd
[01:59] <histo> !derivatives | gnerd
[01:59] <lgc> wilee-nilee: the recovery partition.
[02:00] <Extreminador> ahh the pat-get let me check the command
[02:00] <wilee-nilee> lgc, And where is that?
[02:00] <lgc> It's sda2, wilee-nilee
[02:01] <lgc> sda1, I mean, wilee-nilee .
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> lgc, THat looks like a boot partition, if it is the recovery that is the job to recover.
[02:01] <wilee-nilee> lgc, sda1 is 30 gigs is this a backup?
[02:02] <Extreminador> and how can i get the list of the things that the repository has and how to know what word to use to install it ?
[02:02] <lgc> wilee-nilee: That's the first strange thing. Grub reports it as a Windows recovery partition and /de/sda2 as a Windows boot partition.
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> lgc, I would wonder why it is not mountable in ubuntu does it have and red flags on it in gparted
[02:04] <lgc> Let me check, wilee-nilee ...
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Was this ever a working W7 setup?
[02:04] <w30> Extreminador, check enlightenment.org for a ppa of the latest version of E
[02:04] <lgc> wilee-nilee: you bet!
[02:04] <leeping> Hi there - I'd like to change the mount point of my /home directory.  How do I do this without "losing track" of the existing /home directory?
[02:05] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I don't see any red flags on Gparted's report.
[02:05] <reisio> leeping: change it how?
[02:06] <leeping> reisio, I think I know what to do .. I'll mount the partition to /media/home and move everything into there.
[02:06] <histo> Extreminador: apt-cache search searchterm
[02:06] <reisio> leeping: eh? :)
[02:07] <leeping> reisio, I just bought a large hard drive.  At the same time, my home directory filled up so I am thinking of moving the whole thing over to the large hard drive.
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> lgc, basically this is a windows issue, I use windows but i'm no expert, I think yoiu need to get help in ##windows
[02:07] <histo> leeping: with usermod you can specify a new home and move your files all with one command
[02:07] <Extreminador> histo thanks will try to remember
[02:07] <leeping> histo, I'd still like for the home directory to be /home/$USER
[02:07] <leeping> so I might just change the mount points around
[02:08] <reisio> leeping: ah, fancy
[02:08] <lgc> wilee-nilee: OK.
[02:08] <histo> leeping: what?
[02:08] <reisio> leeping: what you do us umount it, copy the data to the new drive (mounted elsewhere), then change fstab
[02:08] <leeping> histo, from looking at the usermod option, it looks like it can change $HOME to a different path, such as /media/home/$USER or something.
[02:08] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I hope I don't get flames on #windows for installing Ubuntu. :) .
[02:08] <histo> leeping: well then just cp your files out of /home/$user to the mount then umount and mount it to /home/$user
[02:09] <leeping> reisio, that's what I'm planning on doing. :)
[02:09] <reisio> leeping: use rsync for the copying :p
[02:09] <histo> leeping: yes
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> lgc, should not.
[02:09] <maxiPad3gs> 13.04 desktop on thinkpad x220. I pulled up "about this computer" and noticed that my graphics card is Intel sandybridge x86/MMX/SSE2. I dont think i installed the right Kernel but it might have fixed its self with sudo apt-get update && "upgrade". but i also noticed that under OS type: it says 32-bit. when installing generic kernel of ubuntu. what does the 32 64 or 86 mean. and is my pc 32 or 86 ?
[02:09] <leeping> reisio, that's what i'm doing :)
[02:09] <hmamouchi> hey
[02:10] <darkangel> Just a question of guessing what would be a good Ubuntu Version for amazing gaming what 1 would Improve gaming proformance ? plz guess somethin for me to look up to
[02:10] <lgc> We'll see about that, wilee-nilee. In any case, I was hoping not having to reinstall Ubuntu.
[02:10] <reisio> leeping: do eeet
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> lgc, I think it is windows that will need a reinstall.
[02:11] <hmamouchi> please help me
[02:11] <maxiPad3gs> !patience hmamouchi
[02:11] <psy^> darkangel: you want something pretty light on resources for max gaming performance. something like 'Mint Mate' might be what you're after
[02:11] <lgc> wilee-nilee: but that will entail wiping my linux, won't it. At least so it was back in the old days.
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> hmamouchi, I don't see any issues posted.
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> lgc, No, you just make a ntfs and manually install.
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> lgc, A oem might want to use the whole drive, but the ones I have had had a manual option.
[02:12] <darkangel> i did try Mint Mate not that good for me i'm gonna stay with Ubuntu cuzz its about the same performace and every thing between ubuntu 13.04 and Mint 15
[02:12] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I see...
[02:12] <darkangel> thats me though
[02:13] <Extreminador> thanks for all guys but it's late
[02:13] <Extreminador> see you
[02:13] <hmamouchi> I need help add language on the keyboard
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> hmamouchi, What is your native language?
[02:13] <xmetal> hmm @ dpkg compaining about tarball issues
[02:13] <darkangel> 14.04 LTS may be alot better =) cant w8
[02:13] <hmamouchi> arabic
[02:13] <darkangel> till it comes out
[02:13] <hmamouchi> i have lexel
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> hmamouchi, YOu need to outline in detail what you want to do.
[02:15] <hmamouchi> I want to write
[02:15] <maxiPad3gs> hmamouchi: system settings / language support. it should be there. if not you need to run from command line.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade and your language packages will be addes then i think
[02:15] <darkangel> Im also alot better with Ubuntu then Mint by a Ton and good at Fixing Ubuntu Bugs some times
[02:15] <lgc> So, wilee-nilee, just to have it clear, If the Windows installer sees an NTFS partition in /dev/sda1 it will be content with it?
[02:15] <hmamouchi> ok wait test
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Do you have a windows install dvd/usb?
[02:16] <lgc> wilee-nilee: I regret I don't.
[02:16] <darkangel> mmm hmm who uses windows any more lolz Jokes
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> lgc, Then how are you intending to install?
[02:17] <dr_willis> i thought your system was booting to the windows recovery mode of your pc maker
[02:17] <lgc> wilee-nilee: Dowload it from somewhere or getting it from someone.
[02:17] <darkangel> lgc: what Linux ya usin?
[02:18] <lgc> darkangel: 12.04.
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> !ot | darkangel all your posts
[02:19] <dr_willis> lgc:  i thought you had a grub entry that booted a windows-restore mode/oem maker restore disk. did it not do that?
[02:19] <darkangel> oooookkkk????
[02:19] <b_> why were the screensavers removed in 12.04LTS?
[02:19] <b_> anyone?
[02:19] <lgc> wilee-nilee: OEMS used to ship Windows install disks with new equipment. But not anymore.
[02:19] <darkangel> welll See ya guys any way ima go now
[02:19] <dr_willis> b_:  the gnome devs basically killed off gnome-sreensavers
[02:19] <lucidium> what's the best way to set up oss compatibility in 13.04? aoss seems somewhat slow
[02:19] <dr_willis> b_:  theres till the x screensavr package
[02:20] <b_> thx dr was curious  =/
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> lucidium, oss compatibility?
[02:20] <b_> yeah i installed. very nice
[02:20] <dr_willis> b_:  there was never really any configs to evven config the scrrnsavers that were there.. and they were rather poor. :)
[02:20] <lucidium> wilee-nilee, yes, the precursor to ALSA?
[02:20] <dr_willis> screensavers = so 1990's
[02:20] <lgc> dr_willis: Yes. But I haven't proceeded because it would format the whole disk.
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> just curious waht that was
[02:20] <b_> lol
[02:21] <b_> <-------est. 1977
[02:21] <b_> miss the 90's
[02:21] <dr_willis> lgc:  a reinstall will erase everything. so backup what you can find that you want to save
[02:21] <b_> >=]
[02:21] <hmamouchi> I use this and actuation, but when you do restart disappear language
[02:21] <hmamouchi> setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll fr,ar
[02:21] <dr_willis> flying toasters for everyone ;)
[02:22] <maxiPad3gs> if i pull up my "about this computer" and it says under OS type = 32-bit then have i installed the 32 bit distro or is it telling me that my pc is set up for 32 bit OS?
[02:22] <lgc> dr_willis: That's the fuss I was trying to spare myself from.
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> maxiPad3gs,  OS type = 32-bit, seems obvious.
[02:23] <xmetal> lol @ i put that fake BSOD SS on a few PC's ... freaked some newbies out
[02:23] <maxiPad3gs> wilee-nilee: the reason i ask is because i installed the 64 bit distro
[02:24] <hmamouchi> I use this and actuation, but when you do restart disappear language
[02:24] <hmamouchi> <hmamouchi> setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll fr,ar
[02:24] <b_> so while im at it, my box is an alienware 14x r2 i7  battery running ubuntu 12.05LTS is poor.  just a linux thing?
[02:24] <b_> any suggestions?
[02:24] <xmetal> half tired i even fooled myself with that .. ."oh geez a BSOD? .. how the heck... .oh yes .. a screensaver"
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> maxiPad3gs, Are you sure, not on a 32 bit computer?
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> can't say it is a 32 bit computer though
[02:24] <maxiPad3gs> wilee-nilee: thats what i was wondering? does it mean my thinkpad x220 is 32 bit system or did i install the 32 bit distro?
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> maxiPad3gs, only you know what you installed, looks here like a 32 bit release.
[02:25] <b_> 12.04*
[02:25] <w30> maxiPad3gs, your processor is 32 bit, 64 bit, or x86_64 (both). That is what you mean by a 32 or 64 bit system
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> any 64 bit is both
[02:26] <maxiPad3gs> let me post a screen shot of what i am looking at wait one
[02:27] <w30> Itanium is 64 bit
[02:27] <xmetal> if the "about" (whatever) says its 32bit i'd say at least the OS is 32bit
[02:27] <w30> big iron is 64bit
[02:27] <xmetal> (sounds obvious to me)
[02:27] <maxiPad3gs> http://imagebin.org/268241 screenshot thinkpad x220 13.04 desktop
[02:28] <hmamouchi> المرجوا مساعدة عندما اعمل  setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll fr,ar استطيع كتابة بالعربية لكن عند قيام باعادة تشغيل الجهاز تختفي لغة
[02:29] <w30> maxiPad3gs, a processor runs 32 or 64 bit instructions, hence the name
[02:29] <hmamouchi> (gedit:2334): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_device_grab_add: assertion `GDK_IS_DEVICE (device)' failed
[02:29] <wolter> Does anybody have an nVidia 8600M GT? I can't run steam or wine because of X problems with it (xrandr)
[02:29] <maxiPad3gs> w30: please break it down for me to like first grader terms man i am confused
[02:29] <xmetal> lol
[02:30] <abaddon_> Hey guys, OK, I'm trying to create a shell script that does some copying and removing files. I can't seem to get it to work out. Would someone please check what's wrong with my script.
[02:30] <bigbadben> I want to run a command via ssh that might take some time to complete what is the easiest way to make sure that command runs even after the ssh timesout fdfd
[02:31] <maxiPad3gs> anyway my os is running fine except for Conky interrupting my usb 3.0 to USB 2.0 speeds or womething is doing that. thats the only glitch in my OS right now so whatever is going on its working fine
[02:31] <abaddon_> !pastebin
[02:31] <b_> maxi just run 32bit
[02:32] <abaddon_> Here is my script
[02:32] <abaddon_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6008758/
[02:32] <maxiPad3gs> b_: so when saucy salamnder comes out i should install clean the 32 bit version ?
[02:32] <xmetal> lol @ the code names for some of these distros
[02:35] <wolter> abaddon_: you might get much better help at #bash, the guys there are really scripting masters
[02:35] <hustler> lol
[02:35] <b_> just my opinion but why play with resources if you are unsure, depending on your hardware.. 32 just to be safe? jmo
[02:35] <abaddon_> wolter, ahhh, ok
[02:35] <dr_willis> i always use 64bit on all 64bit hardware. i cant recall the last time i had an issue that i could blame on 64bitness of my os.
[02:36] <maxiPad3gs> b_: o kthanks for input
[02:36] <w30> maxiPad3gs, you have a processor that can run 32 bit instrunctions or one that can run either (if you had Itanium or Rise you would know so). If you have a x86_64 processor you can choose a 64bit or 32 bit operating system (32 bit or 64 bit instructions)
[02:36] <wolter> dr_willis: the only issue I have is a printer driver :/ I have to run virtualbox just for that
[02:37] <dr_willis> wolter:  i really have to wonder at a printer company that cant handle  making a 64bit driver for their hardware
[02:37] <wolter> yeah, cannon
[02:37]  * dr_willis wonders part of a driver really cares if its 64bit or 32..
[02:37] <Trytin> I rape rabbits
[02:37] <maxiPad3gs> w30: i thought my processor was pretty up to date...
[02:37] <Darkangel> Any 1 Need Help with there Linux OS?
[02:37] <dr_willis> and as for canon... well... they are best avoided.. i dont touch them any more ;)
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> !ops | Trytin
[02:37] <w30> maxiPad3gs, What is it?
[02:38] <xmetal> oh geez
[02:38] <maxiPad3gs> w30: click my screen shot please on earlier post
[02:38] <Trytin> !ops
[02:40] <w30> maxiPad3gs, ok, see it. You have a x86_64 type processor. you have installed a 32 bit operating system on your box.
[02:40] <rr_> Having trouble with a courrupt filesystem using ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  System powered down unexpectedly and hasn't rebooted since.  Tried using fsck which seems to have made it worse.  Anyone have any ideas to help?
[02:40] <b_> lol Trytin
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> rr_, NO backups or a clone?
[02:41] <wolter> dr_willis: yeah I wonder the same, and I only wish I have had chance to choose the printer
[02:41] <w30> maxiPad3gs, How much memory does you machine have installed in it?
[02:41] <wolter> lol big deal
[02:41] <rr_> nope, wilee-nilee
[02:41] <xmetal> hmm i should make some drive images soon
[02:41] <maxiPad3gs> w30: damn. should have done a hash sum on my distro or i was stoned when i installed. wow. now what .. ? just wait for saucy to drop and install the 64 bit clean? probly what i am gonna do anyway so...
[02:41] <xmetal> of all my OS's
[02:42] <Darkangel> rr_: does ur Monitor turn off when u turn it on act's like its startin up but its not?
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> rr_, Is it mountable from a live cd, and how did you fsck it>
[02:42] <rr_> No it goes to the GRUB menu - when I select linux - it gives an error that the kernal can't be loaded.
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> rr_, How did you fsck it?
[02:43] <rr_> It was mountable for a time from a live CD - after running the fsck for 20 hours, it's not.  I used "sudo fsck -t ext4" and gave the partition name, and the option to automatically correct errors - did this while running off the install cd
[02:44] <Darkangel> ya i had that prob b4 and the only way i fixed it that i started fresh... u do have a BackUp of ur Data right?
[02:44] <dr_willis> maxiPad3gs: 32 or 64 doesn't mattar a lot to most people
[02:44] <maxiPad3gs> dr_willis: cool
[02:44] <maxiPad3gs> my thinkpad doet seem to mind wither
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> rr_, with it mounted?
[02:44] <sigtest2> hello
[02:44] <dr_willis> 20 hr fsck.. sounds like hard disk failing
[02:45] <sigtest> hello
[02:45] <w30> maxiPad3gs, the big advantage is the ability to use more than 3gig of memory in a 64 bit system. Not many apps are optimized for 64 bit yet. (written yes but not really optimized)
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> rr_, The live cd has a smart check in disks
[02:45] <rr_> no made sure it wasn't mounted when I ran FSCK.  it was correcting a a lot of errors in pass 1, then ran pass 2 corrected a lot more errors, and went back to pass one.  Its a fairly new 2TB drive that's never given me a problem before.
[02:45] <rr_> and yeah, no backup....
[02:47] <fatNERD> after the freaking update, my display is all messed up.
[02:47] <fatNERD> ubuntu sucks for real
[02:47] <w30> maxiPad3gs, I see you have 7.8 GiB memory, To use all that install the 64 bit version.
[02:48] <lizzie_> hrmmmm
[02:48] <Darkangel> what Update it give
[02:48] <Darkangel> whats the problem buddy
[02:48] <dr_willis> ! pae
[02:48] <dr_willis> pae kernel can yse it all
[02:49] <rr_> how do i try using the smart check utility?
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> rr_, So not mountable and the fscks made it worse, sounds like a recovery option now, but thats just an opinion.
[02:49] <Darkangel> fatNERD: whats the problem maybe i could help...
[02:50] <abc_> Yo Guys
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> rr_, Is it all ext type partition or partitions?
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> is it the whole HD?
[02:50] <wiak> w30 i got 32GB ram, soo do i need 64-bit?
[02:50] <Darkangel> yes wiak
[02:50]  * wiak lolz :P
[02:51] <rr_> pretty much one large partition yeah, two smaller ones - i just set it up as default
[02:51] <jb992> -_- You have 32 gigabytes of ram and don't know the difference?
[02:51] <w30> maxiPad3gs, there ya go, another choice. How much configuring have you done on the 32 bit install? and how hard is it to get the 64 bit iso?
[02:51] <wiak> <- macgered him self a working highpoint 12tb raid array ubuntu server
[02:51] <jb992> I designed my own microprocessor and I only have 8 lol
[02:51] <wiak> highpoint was no freaking help :O
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> rr_, is the whole thing not mountable?
[02:52] <wiak> rr_ gpt?
[02:52] <jb992> wiak, a 32-bit operating system will only allow each process to use a maximum of 4 GiB of RAM
[02:52] <wiak> i know fool
[02:52] <wiak> :P
[02:52] <w30> maxiPad3gs, with that processor install would not take long *smile* I wish I had it.
[02:52] <jb992> Then why did you ask if you need 64-bit?
[02:53] <wiak> i have been running 64-bit since amd came out with it :P
[02:53] <Darkangel> 64 bit can handle alot more then we have n the world of RAM it subports 60EB
[02:53] <jb992> You don't *need* 64 bit, you'd just be wasting a metric shit-ton of ram
[02:53] <Ben64> jb992: watch the language
[02:54] <b_> lol
[02:54] <Darkangel> good Points jd but ya i agree with ben there
[02:54] <rr_> I tried mounting it from the home folder, and now it doesn't even show up there.  tried mounting just sdb1 from the terminal.  haven't tried the whole thing.
[02:54] <xmetal> i have 4GB on my "newest" PC and so i dont have to keep downloading a 64bit and 32bit version of every OS, i just stick with 32bit .. and happy with it
[02:54] <xmetal> (i only get on high speed from time to time)
[02:54] <rr_> heres the info from fdisk     Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System /dev/sdb1   *        2048<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER>   83  Linux /dev/sdb2<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER>     7861249    5  Extended Partition 2 does not start on physical sector boundary. /dev/sdb5<PHONE_NUMBER><PHONE_NUMBER>     7861248   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[02:55] <jb992> 32 bit makes sense for some uses, for example for using less than 4 GiB of RAM for non-scientific computing purposes
[02:55] <jb992> You can save some overhead (to a degree)
[02:55] <Darkangel> if u use a 32 Bit on a 64 Bit system u will get Glitches and Bugs from it i know this while back
[02:55] <xmetal> that seems odd
[02:55] <jb992> Bugs? I've never heard of that
[02:56] <xmetal> same here, @ jb992
[02:56]  * w30 's 64 bit  system plays solitare really fast
[02:56] <rr_> wiak - i'm not familiar with gpt , pretty new at all this.
[02:56] <Darkangel> it does but thats my exp... Bugs = stuff that will get messed up and ull have to fix it ike ur Volume Drivers will go out
[02:56] <Ben64> Darkangel: thats really not true
[02:56] <b_> so.. with 1600 people in the room, nobody has battery life problems on laptop running ubuntu 12.04LTS?
[02:56] <wiak> sudo parted -l | grep -C 1 -A 10 gpt
[02:56] <jb992> w30, a 64-bit system won't process faster, it just allows it to allocate more hardware
[02:57] <maxiPad3gs> I am still confused as to how I got a 32 bit OS on my pad lol? :(
[02:57] <Darkangel> sure ok
[02:57] <wiak> should find if your drives are gpt :P
[02:57] <Darkangel> so im just imagines it
[02:57] <Ben64> how about we get the channel back on topic
[02:57] <Ben64> #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to chat
[02:58] <jb992> Ben64, I'm curious, are you a moderator?
[02:58] <maxiPad3gs> Is there an easy way to see why my USB 3.0 is not running at speed?
[02:58] <Darkangel> well tecknickly im helpin people im not sure how im off Topic
[02:58] <jb992> maxiPad3gs, do you have the proper drivers installed?
[02:59] <w30> jb992, yeah, I understand that the code needs to be optimized more than just using 64 bit registers
[02:59] <maxiPad3gs> jb992: i think i covered that before and that is yes sorry i didnt mention that at startup sometimes it works
[02:59] <maxiPad3gs> jb992: i think it could be Conky
[03:00] <rr_> wiak - tried that command, didn't get any output.  running the gparted partition editor now.
[03:00] <sportif> .
[03:00] <Darkangel> that Gpart is alot of help for sure
[03:00] <dr_willis> conky is really handy. :) theres a conky config tool i saw on webupd8 or omgubuntu that lets you eaially add some nice conky setups
[03:00] <maxiPad3gs> Nevermind, I can live wihtout my USB 3.0 until saucy drops
[03:01] <Valeness> Is it possible to partition half my Harddrive for Ubuntu and the other half for windows?
[03:01] <jb992> Yes, Valeness, the installer provides for it
[03:01] <Valeness> Ah, thank you jb992
[03:01] <jb992> It's one of the default options IIRC
[03:01] <dr_willis> 'insall alongside'
[03:01] <Valeness> It's been a while since I installed. I'm still running 10.04 :P
[03:01] <dr_willis> or you can manually partion how you want. "somthing else..."
[03:02] <jb992> I would recommend double checking your partition setup before you install though if you do do the automated route.
[03:02] <jb992> I always prefer to double-check.
[03:02] <dr_willis> of course make backups of imporntaant stuff befor you install
[03:02] <maxiPad3gs> Valeness: oh yeah thats easy.. I used Unetbootin and installed along side no probs
[03:02] <jb992> That's pretty much a given dr_willis
[03:02] <dr_willis> jb992:  but so ignored...
[03:02] <jb992> lol so true
[03:02] <Valeness> Haha, I'm backing up right now
[03:02] <qin> Doesn't "alongside" means on the same partition?
[03:03] <dr_willis> most imporntant stuff i have is the wifes video files..
[03:03] <Darkangel> no
[03:03] <jb992> Backups should be kept anyways, and idealy they are painless, or else the user doesn't keep them
[03:03] <Valeness> I messed up this distro pretty bad being stupid. So I'm doing a fresh install of both OS's
[03:03] <dr_willis> qin:  i rhink so yes.
[03:03] <dr_willis> qin:  on the same 'drive'
[03:03] <maxiPad3gs> qin: you create a seperate partition in the Unetbootin Grub
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> Valeness, 10:04 desktop is end of life you know this right?
[03:03] <Darkangel> its 2 partishons but 1 hdd of u just have 1 its a 2 OS system's on 1 HDD
[03:03] <jb992> For example, I use VSS for windows, and rsnapshot for linux
[03:03] <maxiPad3gs> qin: or no wait. you pass the grub and partition in the Ubuntu set up
[03:03] <Valeness> Haha, it's an old desktop. I don't think it'd run 12.04
[03:03] <rr_> only thing gparted shows is sda1 - which is the other drive i have which is a bootable windows drive.  doesn't show sdb at all
[03:04] <dr_willis> Valeness:  only if it dosent support PAE in the cpu.
[03:04] <dr_willis> Valeness:  if so.. thats a real old system. )
[03:04] <Valeness> Uhm, it's maybe 8-9 years old, I'm not sure :P
[03:04] <dr_willis> Valeness:  test with a live cd.
[03:04] <jb992> Valeness, did you try booting something like Knoppix to erase the partition, then rewriting the bootmanager/mbr with windows' recovery tools?
[03:04] <Valeness> I did not jb992
[03:05] <Valeness> And good idea dr_willis
[03:05] <jb992> Was it a fresh install of windows and ubuntu in the first place?
[03:05] <jb992> Or would doing a reinstall from scratch be a better option?
[03:05] <Valeness> Oh, I don't have both installed. I formatted and then installed ubuntu
[03:05] <jb992> Oh, ok. Thanks for clearing that up.
[03:06] <Valeness> However, I miss my Windows Gaming, so I wanted a partition to run Warcraft III :D
[03:06] <jb992> lol
[03:06] <Ben64> Valeness: warcraft 3 works fine with wine
[03:06] <jb992> Ben64, what's the performance like?
[03:06] <Valeness> but you have to run gameranger and stuff to play with friends
[03:06] <jb992> It can't be good
[03:06] <Ben64> jb992: why can't it
[03:06] <Valeness> I'd rather not risk that kind of delay
[03:07] <jb992> Well, it's not running on the native platform for one
[03:07] <rr_> used the command sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt which got me this error - mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb1,  missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[03:07] <Ben64> jb992: so? thats literally why wine exists
[03:07] <jb992> Ben64, wine is not optimized for performance of win32 applications as well as windows
[03:08] <jb992> See this
[03:08] <jb992> http://wiki.winehq.org/Performance
[03:08] <Ben64> jb992: you obviously have no idea how it works
[03:08] <Ben64> Valeness: the easiest way to get both windows and ubuntu on a computer is to install windows first, then install ubuntu
[03:08] <jb992> Ben64, Please refer to my link before accusing me.
[03:08] <Valeness> Ben64, thank you, I will probably do that
[03:08] <maxiPad3gs> I have a Mac Mini triple booting Raring Desktop/ Windoze/ and Moutain Lion ...
[03:09] <Valeness> Triple Booting? :o
[03:09] <maxiPad3gs> yep
[03:09] <jb992> What about triple booting? -_-
[03:09] <waterlite> hi all
[03:09] <Darkangel> hello
[03:10] <jb992> What would be nice is if someone made a boot manager that worked around the different eccentricities of the different operating systems and was reliable
[03:10] <maxiPad3gs> jb992: you mean like BOOTCAMP?
[03:10] <jb992> Something like that
[03:10] <jb992> I mean for PCs.
[03:10] <maxiPad3gs> but for Ubuntu open source right
[03:10] <maxiPad3gs> jb992: >> off topic before Ben yells at us
[03:11] <Darkangel> lol
[03:11] <Ben64> its the channel rules, its really not that hard to understand
[03:11] <qin> what is particulary wrong with grub?
[03:11] <Darkangel> Ben64: are u a Mod?
[03:11] <b_> <-----in off topic nobody is talking  =x
[03:11] <jb992> It can be problematic in my experience
[03:11] <jb992> I've wasted way too much time fixing grub
[03:12] <jb992> What I need, and want, is something that just *works*
[03:12] <waterlite> hi all
[03:12] <jb992> Something that's bugtested thoroughly and gives detailed error reports
[03:12] <xmetal> i have had to adjust an option or two in grub, for other distro's when i had to do a kernel upgrade by hand, but i never had issues with grub (legacy or grub2)
[03:12] <jb992> I've had pains with grub dealing with multiple operating systems
[03:12] <dr_willis> if its totally  bugtested.. it wont have errors. ;)
[03:13] <wilee-nilee> grub is pretty straight forward never had a problem, you have to know how to use it.
[03:13] <jb992> Good point dr_willis
[03:13] <waterlite> Is Xchat a good client ?
[03:13] <waterlite> whats a good client for Linux users
[03:13] <jb992> I prefer Hexchat personally
[03:13] <waterlite> oh
[03:13] <Valeness> waterlite: I use it, works great. *shrug*
[03:13] <Darkangel> can 1 Update there Grub?
[03:13] <jb992> It's theme-able
[03:14] <qin> waterlite: irssi
[03:14] <jb992> Yes, you can update grub
[03:14] <Darkangel> how?
[03:14] <b_> pidgin?
[03:14] <jb992> What are you looking to do DarkAce-Z
[03:14] <Valeness> Yeah, I like how I can change the colors of Xchat to not hurt my eyes :D
[03:14] <Darkangel> what Terminal Codes?
[03:14] <xmetal> hexchat is a windows (they have linux versions) clone of xchat
[03:14] <jb992> *Darkangel
[03:14] <xmetal> oops
[03:14] <jb992> lol name autocorrect
[03:14] <Darkangel> what?
[03:14] <jb992> What are you trying to do with grub?
[03:14] <xmetal> they have linux versions? * ... forgot the puncuation
[03:15] <jb992> Regarding updating it?
[03:15] <waterlite> oh
[03:15] <waterlite> well what do you guys think about Ircing from a phone?
[03:15] <Ben64> xmetal: xchat is linux
[03:15] <waterlite> Is it worth ir or?
[03:15] <jb992> I use androidirc for that
[03:15] <Floopssy> whats good monitor networks on ubuntu
[03:15] <waterlite> hmmm
[03:15] <jb992> hexchat is linux too :)
[03:15] <Ben64> waterlite: #ubuntu-offtopic for topics not relating to ubuntu support
[03:15] <waterlite> jb992:  but typing on a eyboard is hurrendous
[03:15] <xmetal> thats what i meant
[03:16] <xmetal> (hexchat)
[03:16] <jb992> waterlite, try swipe typing :)
[03:16] <qin> Floopssy: iftop; tcptrack;
[03:16] <dance4x> So I'm getting a black screen with a cursor on boot after an update from today
[03:16] <waterlite> jb992:  I pmed you
[03:16] <waterlite> lets talk there/
[03:16] <jb992> hexchat is based on xchat
[03:16] <jb992> it's free though
[03:16] <waterlite> I see
[03:16] <waterlite> intersting
[03:16] <Floopssy> good ones with graphically interface beside bandwithd
[03:16] <waterlite> hm
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> dance4x, You have an nvidia card?
[03:17] <dance4x> Why yes I do wilee-nilee
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> dance4x, Is the driver from their website?
[03:17] <Darkangel> Would there be any Other problems from Upgrading from 12.04 ubunt to 13.04 internet style? beside's that problem from disconnected internet...
[03:18] <dance4x> wilee-nilee: the update was from Ubuntu update manager
[03:18] <wilee-nilee> dance4x, Hmm we had a kernel upgrade in 13.04 today did you?
[03:18] <dance4x> wilee-nilee:  There was a Linux kernel update and nvidia update
[03:18] <xmetal> wouldn't it be better to go from 12.04 to (there a 12.10?) to 13.04 ?
[03:18] <dance4x> wilee-nilee: yes
[03:18] <qin> Darkangel: is there direct upgrade 12.04 -> 13.04?
[03:19] <Ben64> 12.04 will upgrade directly to 14.04
[03:19] <Darkangel> no not right now as i know of but i bet ill figure it out real fast
[03:19] <dance4x> wilee-nilee: I'm on 12.04 though
[03:19] <wilee-nilee> dance4x, Sounds like that is the area of problems, I know nothing about these drivers is all
[03:19] <Darkangel> prob Upgrading from Disk with out delteing any thing
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> dance4x, YOu might get in with an earlier kernel or a nomodeset boot.
[03:20] <wilee-nilee> to fix it
[03:20] <qin> is your /home on separate partition?
[03:20] <qin> Darkangel: ^^
[03:20] <dance4x> Here is what I've done so far wilee-nilee
[03:20] <Darkangel> no
[03:20] <dance4x> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743535&page=130&p=12763791#post12763791
[03:21] <dance4x> The last post on there by kmoneylongshanks
[03:21] <Darkangel> Its all 1 Partition i only Have Ubuntu 13.04 on here
[03:21] <qin> Darkangel: Back up.
[03:21] <xmetal> there was another distro .. the "jan 2013 version" was ok on this laptop, though I had to do a nomodeset boot on my older desktop
[03:22] <Darkangel> nope never Backed Up never got me a job yet and that kinda helps lolz
[03:22] <Darkangel> just a little bit
[03:22] <xmetal> which just reminded me i wanted to install enlightenmint on that *c
[03:22] <xmetal> PC *
[03:22] <qin> Darkangel: I ment `do back up` and with next install make sure to have /home on separate partition
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> dance4x, I'm not up on these problems.
[03:23] <Darkangel> aww ok
[03:23] <Ben64> dance4x: you probably need to install kernel headers
[03:23] <Ben64> dance4x: and then reconfigure dkms
[03:23] <Darkangel> Any 1 have problems Installin any Games or Online Games on there Ubuntu OS
[03:23] <Ben64> !anyone | Darkangel
[03:23] <Darkangel> i can be a huge help with that
[03:24] <dance4x> Ben64 I have no idea what you're talking about but I imagine some googling will be able to help me figure out what you mean
[03:24] <Darkangel> mmmmk
[03:24] <bazhang> Darkangel, keep the extra chit chat elsewhere
[03:24] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | dance4x To get in
[03:24] <jb992> bazhang, who made you moderator?
[03:25] <bazhang> jb992, lets get back on topic please
[03:25] <Basil1x> Ubuntu 13.04.  Is there a way to enlarge /boot in LVM.  It seems to be out of space.
[03:25] <Darkangel> wow yes guys ill make sure ill remember that just tryin to help some people makin sure they have there full alsome exp with Ubuntu OS some people dont know the Tricks on installing sertain games in there OS
[03:25] <xmetal> i am still a little puzzled over my kernel upgrade issues (not a big deal i suppose) ..  related to a tarball issue and it's dpkg that is comiaining
[03:25] <xmetal> complaining too
[03:25] <null_dev> Okay, guys. I'm really, really loathing to ask this question here, but my friend is asking me to help him with his Windows machine. Is there a room for Windows support? I need someone to look over a ComboFix log.
[03:25] <jb992> Basil1x, I believe you'll have to expand the LVM container first
[03:25] <bazhang> !ot | Darkangel
[03:26] <qin> jb992: In irc there are ops, and its better to aknoledge them than discus it
[03:26] <bazhang> null_dev, ##windows
[03:26] <dance4x> wilee-nilee: well let's see if this works. I just booted into an old kernal but it was text only
[03:26] <null_dev> bazhang Thank you.
[03:26] <xmetal> uh ... what the heck?
[03:26] <SkinnyV> I was wondering if somebody could help me with a simple start up scriot
[03:26] <Basil1x> LVM container has 956GB, 90% of which is free space. jb992
[03:26] <SkinnyV> I am trying to have something autostart using rc.local
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> dance4x, If you can get to a desktop, the instructions by Ben64 will be easier is all.
[03:26] <k_sze[work]> Hello.
[03:26] <Basil1x> Still, /boot tops out at 227MB
[03:27] <k_sze[work]> Is it true that in Ubuntu, IPv4 can be configured as a subset of IPv6?
[03:27] <jb992> Here, see if this helps
[03:27] <jb992> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html
[03:27] <jb992> You may want to read the MAN pages for some of those commands, like "lvextend"
[03:28] <jb992> You'll have to increase the size of the logical volume, then increase the filesystem size.
[03:28] <SkinnyV> anybody could jsut give me an hand? I just need one thing to autostart
[03:28] <jb992> You'll have to unmount the filesystem that you want to expand to do that
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> null_dev, I would have them post on bleeping computers.
[03:30] <somsip> SkinnyV: just say what you are trying to do. someone will help if they can
[03:30] <null_dev> wilee-nilee Thank you. I was hoping for IRC help because he's starting school next weekend and needs his computer so time is of the essence, but I'll definitely post there.
[03:30] <Basil1x> I only want to let /boot use more space.  The LVM already has the entire drive.
[03:31] <Basil1x> I do not want to expand the LVM partition itself.  It already uses the entire drive.
[03:32] <dance4x> wilee-nilee: thank you for your help but nomodeset did not work
[03:33] <SkinnyV> Ok, I need to start a deamon for my minecraft server everytime I restart the server. To do this, I log with SSH, navigate to a directory with CD FOLDERNAME, and then give this command /bin/multicraft -v start . I want that to be done automaticly on reboot by the rc.local
[03:35] <somsip> SkinnyV: then you add those lines to rc.local (if this is the way you want to do it). eg "cd /home/skinnyv/.minecraft && /bin/multicraft -v start"
[03:36] <SkinnyV> I wasnt sure how to have it go to the folder, so I just separate command with $$?
[03:36] <somsip> SkinnyV: I hope that's a typo. Look again
[03:36] <SkinnyV> oh I ment &&
[03:37] <dr_willis> ;)
[03:37] <somsip> SkinnyV: however, this may not be the best way to start the server. A quick search suggest upstart scripts can be used, eg: http://www.cryptkcoding.com/2012/03/how-to-build-a-minecraft-server-on-ubuntu/ This might be out of date though
[03:37] <dr_willis> rc.local runs everything as root.. so you may or may not want that
[03:37] <witeshark> what is the cause of a spontaneously appearing gray question mark launcher box marked 'exe' when highlighted?
[03:38] <dr_willis> witeshark:  never heard of such a thing... post a screenshot  perhaps.
[03:38] <witeshark> selecting 'quit' fails to remove it
[03:38] <dr_willis> witeshark:  when does this appear? on login? after a while? at random?
[03:39] <witeshark> dr_willis, it seems to have appeared immediately after loading a wunderground.com site
[03:40] <witeshark> i saw the launcher 'pop out' on activity and there it was
[03:40] <dr_willis> witeshark:  so if you kill the browser (via kill or xkill) does it vanish?
[03:40] <qin> witeshark: in any browser?
[03:40] <witeshark> qin, it did not happen on FF
[03:40] <dr_willis> could be some annoying windows advertisement
[03:41] <SkinnyV> trying it now
[03:41] <witeshark> dr_willis, no, clearing browser data and closing chrome did nothing
[03:41] <witeshark> the only thing that removed it was reboot
[03:41] <dr_willis> try killall chromium-bbrowser or google-chrome or whateveer they are called
[03:41] <qin> witeshark: maybe autostart option and default programs?
[03:41] <dr_willis> also try just 'xkill' and click on the window in question
[03:41] <dr_willis> theres some tool i recall like xkill that gives window info whenyou click on them
[03:42] <dr_willis> but i forget its name
[03:42] <witeshark> dr_willis, ah neat idea thanks
[03:42] <Poodle448> What's the off topic channel name?
[03:42] <somsip> !ot | Poodle448
[03:42] <qin> !ot
[03:42] <Poodle448> thanks
[03:42] <Poodle448> !ot
[03:42] <Poodle448> #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:42] <dr_willis> no one ever reads what the bot says ;P
[03:43] <SkinnyV> hmmm, it doesnt seem to be starting with that command in rc.loacl
[03:43] <dr_willis> SkinnyV:  id make a script that starts it.. then run that script from rc.local
[03:43] <dr_willis> SkinnyV:  and make sure it runs as the proper user.
[03:44] <Poodle448> dr_willis well I did.
[03:44] <SkinnyV> I added this to rc.local: cd multicraft && ./bin/multicraft -v start (this command work when executed as root from the command line
[03:44] <dr_willis> if your users home dirs are encrypted.. that may also get in the way ski
[03:44] <dance4x> Ben64: is there a way to revert back to an old Ubuntu version from the terminal. I can ac ESS Ubuntu through an old kernel but its text onky
[03:44] <dance4x> Only
[03:44] <dr_willis> you really want the server running as root?
[03:44] <somsip> SkinnyV: you might be better off adding something to rc.local like '/usr/local/bin/multicraft &' and then creating /usr/local/bin/multicraft that contains the cd ... && .. commands
[03:44] <Poodle448> Hey can you get ice (from pepermintOS on Ubtuntu?)
[03:45] <SkinnyV> well, thats the only way i was able to start the deamon from the ssh prompt
[03:45] <SkinnyV> after entering sudo su -
[03:45] <dr_willis> and  you ment cd /home/multicraft or what exactly SkinnyV ?    rc.local will want correct paths
[03:45] <dr_willis> no need to use cd &&command in a script..  juss tput the commands on differnt lines.
[03:46] <SkinnyV> when run from the command prompt it work with jsut cd multicraft, should i add the full path to the rc.loacl?
[03:46] <dr_willis> SkinnyV:  cd multicradt is NOT a full path to where its at...
[03:46] <dr_willis> SkinnyV:  so i would bet that would fail most of the time
[03:46] <somsip> SkinnyV: yes, like I said earlier...cd /home/skinnyv/.minecraft or whereever it really lives
[03:47] <dr_willis> bash baics. :)  when in doubt use the full path
[03:47] <dr_willis> basics
[03:47] <dr_willis> cd multicraft will fail if your shell is not starting  where multicraft is at.
[03:47] <zykotick9> SkinnyV: it's not a good idea to use "sudo su -"  use "sudo -i" instead.  i'd also try changing your "cd ..." to use the FULL path instead "/blah/bin/multicraft -v start" (no cd)
[03:47] <SkinnyV> ok I'll try, thanks guys
[03:48] <somsip> zykotick9: If multicraft looks in the PWD for the jar (or whatever) he might need to fiddle a bit with this maybe?
[03:49] <zykotick9> somsip: oh.... well that does change things!  SkinnyV sorry looks like i gave bad advice re multicraft.
[03:49] <somsip> zykotick9: I don't know how it definitely works. Just trying to cover all bases for SkinnyV
[03:50] <dr_willis> also rc.local uses sh not bash.
[03:50] <dr_willis> seen that get in the way of some people also
[03:50] <zykotick9> somsip: personally, i just question "cd foo" working in rc.local myself???
[03:50] <somsip> zykotick9: yeah - I thought cd .. && command would work, but calling this in a separate batch file would be better if it definitely needs to cd
[03:51] <zykotick9> somsip: +1 for calling batch
[03:51] <SkinnyV> so I would just add my command to a file named whatever.sh and call that file from teh rc.local?
[03:52] <somsip> SkinnyV: ^^^ lots of ideas for you to try then :-)
[03:52] <rr_> Gonna go to sleep soon - but made a post detailing the troubles with my file system/inability to boot - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2169188&p=12763841#post12763841 - think I'm giving up for today, but if anyone has any ideas, it'd be much appreciated.
[03:52] <somsip> SkinnyV: yeah - the standard is for these to go in /usr/local/bin, so /usr/local/bin/multicraft.sh for example
[03:53] <somsip> SkinnyV: then rc.local has '/usr/local/bin/multicraft.sh &'. And multicraft.sh contains 'cd /path (newline) /bin/multicraft -v start' or whatever that path to the real multicraft should be
[03:57] <SkinnyV> why the & at the end of the rc.local commandÉ
[03:57] <SkinnyV> ?
[03:57] <SolarAquarion> how do I add /usr/games to my path?
[03:57] <somsip> SkinnyV: starts the commandin the background in case multicraft doesn't return cleanly
[03:58] <SkinnyV> oh i see
[03:58] <qin> SolarAquarion: is not in it? echo $PATH
[04:00] <SolarAquarion> qin, it's there
[04:01] <qin> SolarAquarion: PATH=$PATH:/home/$USER/.bin
[04:01] <qin> added to ~/.bashrc create user wide path
[04:02] <SkinnyV> its weird, I cant even run the script as root from ssh, it says permissio ndenied
[04:02] <somsip> SkinnyV: chmod +x /usr/local/bin/multicraft.sh
[04:02] <Basil1x> Ah.  Deleted some of the 23 old kernels I had in /boot and all is now well again.  Must figure out how to expand it one day.
[04:03] <SkinnyV> oh, forgot about permission, thx
[04:04] <SolarAquarion> qin, the game is there but it wasn't added to the auto play when i decided to do the name of the game
[04:05] <SolarAquarion> in xterm
[04:05] <SolarAquarion> for example osu
[04:05] <SkinnyV> is there a way to run this script as a user?
[04:05] <SolarAquarion> i need to create a menu file
[04:05] <SkinnyV> it seem to work but it can't find the config files for the server
[04:06] <somsip> SkinnyV: /usr/local/bin/multicraft.sh should do it
[04:06] <SkinnyV> its weird because it work whe ni run the command stright in the command prompt as root
[04:06] <somsip> SkinnyV: what dir are you in when you do that?
[04:07] <SkinnyV> i just enter /usr/local/bin/multicraft.sh in the command prompt
[04:07] <SkinnyV> as root
[04:07] <qin> SolarAquarion: what does: which osu; says?
[04:07] <somsip> SkinnyV: so what isn't it doing right?
[04:08] <Guest4720>  m
[04:08] <SkinnyV> it start the deamon but it return error about not finding the config file for the game server which isnt an issue if I just enter cd multicraft and then ./bin/multicraft -v start
[04:08] <somsip> SkinnyV: cd to multicraft than paste the result of 'pwd'
[04:09] <SolarAquarion> qin, it automatically goes to the wine installation script.
[04:09] <SolarAquarion> But if I press the /usr/games/osu file it launcher osu
[04:10] <SkinnyV> it just return /root/multicraft
[04:10] <somsip> SkinnyV: and there is a bin directory in there, which contains the multicraft executable?
[04:11] <SkinnyV> no,it is in home/multicraft/ I think
[04:12] <somsip> SkinnyV: take this the right way, but please don't 'think' check it
[04:12] <dr_willis> you made a user named 'multicraft' ?
[04:12] <qin> qin: wine? well, wine programs are started by wine not bash. Nautilus (the clickable thinky) have sorta mime types, so it calls wine to deal with its stuff, bash would require spesific command, here: wine osu (or something), see #winehq
[04:12] <SkinnyV> sorry, let me check
[04:12] <SkinnyV> yes there is a multicraft user
[04:12] <qin> hmmm, buggy spelling...
[04:13] <SkinnyV> the file are located in /home/multicraft/multicraft/
[04:13] <qin> SolarAquarion: ^^^^
[04:13] <somsip> SkinnyV: so when you just posted "it just return /root/multicraft" was that a mistake?
[04:13] <SkinnyV> no it is really what its returning
[04:14] <dr_willis> and this is or is not a Windows exe?   i missed how wine figures into this
[04:15] <zykotick9> SkinnyV: if you use sudo, the ~ is actually /root
[04:15] <SolarAquarion> qin, i want it to launch with the terminal
[04:15] <SolarAquarion> I do need to add it to the menu or something
[04:17] <qin> SolarAquarion: can you tell me what program is it?
[04:17] <SolarAquarion> qin, osu!
[04:18] <SolarAquarion> which i installed via a deb
[04:18] <qin> SolarAquarion: and: which /usr/games/osu; output
[04:18] <qin> ok, moment
[04:18] <SolarAquarion> qin, you want the output?
[04:18] <CorruptedHelix> Hey! I'm running Ubuntu in VirtualBox, and when I booted it up I was presented the GUI asking me to try it or install it. Would it be a good idea to install it on a Virtual Machine? Would it affect my actual computer at all?
[04:18] <SkinnyV> ah, got it to work, it was doing cd multicraft but after that my line was asking it to run the multicraft deamon from the incomplete directory
[04:18] <somsip> SkinnyV: so you're okay now?
[04:19] <holstein> CorruptedHelix: it will install the os on the virtual machine you are running
[04:19] <SkinnyV> yeah, it's seem to be running now
[04:19] <SkinnyV> thanks a lot guy, sorry for bothering you
[04:19] <somsip> SkinnyV: cool  - np
[04:19] <qin> SolarAquarion: yes
[04:19] <CorruptedHelix> holstein: Good enough, that's something I'm typically hesitant to do because I never work with Virtual Machines
[04:19] <SkinnyV> thanks to everyoen for the help, its really apreciated
[04:19] <holstein> CorruptedHelix: virtual machines are virtual.. so, they dont effect the host..
[04:20] <CorruptedHelix> holstein: Understandly, but I'm a paranoid individual
[04:20] <CorruptedHelix> *understandably
[04:20] <CorruptedHelix> So I made sure.
[04:21] <dr_willis> its virtually impssible? ;)
[04:21] <dr_willis> i run ubuntu in vbox on windows all the time.
[04:22] <dr_willis> well Lubuntu actually.. its to handy to not have a linux box around
[04:22] <SolarAquarion> qin, http://pastebin.com/eZBgS9uA
[04:22] <holstein> CorruptedHelix: computers dont care about your "mood".. or if you are paranoid.. or not.. the fact is, the guest doesnt change the host.. and you welcome and encouraged to confirm that via *any* source you find
[04:23] <dr_willis> the guest could  affect the host in any way that any other machine on the same lan   could.. i imagine.
[04:24] <dr_willis> since they would be the same as several networked machines on the same lan.
[04:24] <airtonix> dr_willis: not if the power isn't plugged in!
[04:24] <dr_willis> Need Moar Powar!
[04:24] <qin> SolarAquarion: what does: wine /opt/osu/osu\!.exe
[04:25] <SolarAquarion> qin, it crashes
[04:25] <qin> SolarAquarion: what error?
[04:26] <SolarAquarion> qin, http://pastebin.com/GEj0bugF
[04:28] <qin> SolarAquarion: do you have osu file in your home directory?
[04:28] <SolarAquarion> qin, no
[04:29] <SolarAquarion> qin, should i create a symlink?
[04:29] <qin> SolarAquarion: try this: env WINEPREFIX="/home/yourname/.wine/osu" wine C:\\Program\ Files\\osu\\osu!.exe
[04:30] <SolarAquarion> qin, i by mistakenly cleared text
[04:30] <qin> SolarAquarion: ?
[04:31] <SolarAquarion> qin, there's a bash script file in the osu directory
[04:31] <SolarAquarion> which features all the fixes
[04:33] <SolarAquarion> qin, i just pasted the bash script file
[04:34] <josePHPagoda> Hello everyone!  Anyone here able to connect to a PPTP VPN server under Ubuntu 13.04?
[04:37] <qin> SolarAquarion: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=9581 and #winehq channel may be better bet.
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> josePHPagoda, 3rd party vpn right?
[04:40] <josePHPagoda> it's just a PPTP server, I think it's on a Fortigate
[04:40] <josePHPagoda> i've been reading a lot that PPTP might be broken on 13.04
[04:41] <josePHPagoda> wilee-nilee: :)
[04:42] <josePHPagoda> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1175897
[04:44] <josePHPagoda> i see that someone might have found a solution by custom compiling the pppd binaries, but I really hate compiling over the top of other packages
[04:44] <josePHPagoda> but I can't see that anyone has released packages that are fixed
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> josePHPagoda, I see bug stuff, but I see what seem to be more info here, not an area I know anything about really. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=PPTP+13.04
[04:45] <josePHPagoda> i've already read most of those :-/
[04:47] <josePHPagoda> it's a shame because I'm needing this for work, and having it break in the latest version is kind of scary
[04:47] <josePHPagoda> puts me out of a job :(
[04:48] <NDJ> Hey
[04:49] <josePHPagoda> i don't suppose there is anywhere that I can pay to have Canonical prioritize a fix or something...
[04:49] <josePHPagoda> seems fairly widespread
[04:49] <NDJ> What the command to 'debloat' and uninstall defuly stuff on ubuntu. It was something like apt-get unity lens
[04:49] <NDJ> I cant recal
[04:49] <NDJ> *reccal
[04:49] <NDJ> close enough L|
[04:49] <NDJ> :|
[04:49] <dr_willis> !noads
[04:50] <NDJ> !noads
[04:50] <dr_willis> !noad
[04:50] <NDJ> !noad
[04:50] <dr_willis> if you mean the  amazon suggestions
[04:50] <dr_willis> !adlens
[04:50] <NDJ> I think
[04:50] <dr_willis> its not bloat. ;)
[04:50] <NDJ> Yes that! And what does it do?
[04:51] <dr_willis> 'more suggetions'
[04:51] <NDJ> And how do I remove it via cli?
[04:51] <dr_willis> the various blog sites discuss nit in detail
[04:51] <NDJ> thank you!
[04:51] <dr_willis> i dont find it worth removeing
[04:52] <dr_willis> or worrying about
[04:52] <dr_willis> 13.10 really improves on the feature
[04:52] <NDJ> I'm a tinfoil hat :|
[04:52] <dr_willis> turn off your pc.. throw itaway
[04:52] <josePHPagoda> dr_willis: does 13.10 fix the VPN issues? :P  I've hit a wall here trying to fix PPTP vpn connections under 13.04
[04:52] <dr_willis> jose no idea. i dont use vpn
[04:53] <jose> josePHPagoda: ^
[04:53] <dr_willis> test it with a live cd
[04:54] <Guest8171> Hi. I'm making my own program launcher, and I want to make it more general purpose (so I can distribute it). Where do I store the launcher icon?
[04:54] <AcidRain2012> does anyone have any advice on why  my external hdds are moving so slow?
[04:54] <AcidRain2012> usually they push about 30mb/sec transfer. they are peaking at about 1mb/sec right now
[04:54] <NDJ> See yall, thanks for help!
[04:54] <AcidRain2012> but this has been going on for about 3 days now
[04:54] <dr_willis> lots of little files or big files?
[04:55] <joshuag> hello ppl
[04:55] <AcidRain2012> lots of big files, usually movies
[04:55] <AcidRain2012> songs, text files
[04:55] <josePHPagoda> well... I'm off.  Hopefully I can talk my employer into letting me use a site to site vpn rather than a point to site vpn, since point to site looks broken currently.
[04:55] <AcidRain2012> but when i add them i do it one at a time
[04:55] <josePHPagoda> until then, I'm out of work.
[04:56] <josePHPagoda> talk with you later!
[04:56] <joshuag> any one wanna help me out
[04:56] <josePHPagoda> joshuag: what issue do you have?
[04:56] <Timetoplay> joshuag, no, we all sit around just to laugh at people who need help :)
[04:57] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis, i notice that this also makes my movies lag when im watching them. once i cancel a transfer ,because it could take up to 20min for a 2gb movie, the movie im currently watching will stop lagging
[04:57] <joshuag> i want to dual boot win 8 and ubuntu but when i go into ubuntu it frezzes after like a few mins of using it
[04:57] <joshuag> i have used 64bit
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> hmm... what hardware is it?
[04:57] <AcidRain2012> also, does anyone know how to make it so when i click on a torrent link in firefox ,transmission will automatically open. its not in the options list, and i cant find it
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> I've never hit that issue
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> so I likely can't help much
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> i've gotta go to bed though or I'll keep pulling my hair out
[04:57] <josePHPagoda> (borked VPN :( )
[04:58] <josePHPagoda> but I'm sure some others can help you out joshuag
[04:58] <joshuag> i have an nvidia card and intel 960
[04:58] <dr_willis> Optimus stuff?
[04:58] <Timetoplay> so any help on where to store .desktop icons? seems the normal installed ones don't tell me where
[04:58] <dr_willis> Timetoplay:  see where gedit.desktop is at?
[04:59] <Timetoplay> yeah
[04:59] <dr_willis> id say there.  ;(
[04:59] <Timetoplay> in usr/share/applications
[04:59] <dr_willis> :)
[04:59] <Timetoplay> just... put the icon in the same place?
[04:59] <joshuag> some one going to help me out:(
[04:59] <dr_willis> locate the gedit.png is at
[05:00] <likes> never heard of it joshuag
[05:00] <dr_willis> most lilely in a theme directory
[05:00] <dr_willis> joshuag:  so this is an Optimius chipset device? if so look up  Bumblebee
[05:00] <likes> joshuag: does it freeze even when you don't do anything?
[05:00] <Timetoplay> dr_willis, alright, doing the search now. Didn't think of that :). The .desktop files just say  "Icon: gedit" and such
[05:01] <apb1963_> I want to uninstall ubuntu-desktop...  it won't go away :(
[05:01] <joshuag> yea
[05:01] <dr_willis> thats beayse  tjeu come from the theme files Timetoplay
[05:01] <dr_willis> apb1963_:  thats a meta-package. why do yuou want to remove it?
[05:01] <apb1963_> don't like it :)
[05:01] <dr_willis> removeing it does nothinh
[05:02] <apb1963_> I installed it... I should be able to remove it
[05:02] <dr_willis> apt-get remove pacjagename
[05:02] <apb1963_> I did purge
[05:02] <dr_willis> it wont acomplish anything
[05:02] <apb1963_> I know
[05:02] <likes> joshuag: did you look into the log files?
[05:02] <apb1963_> so.... how do I replace it?
[05:02] <joshuag> its hard to do that when it frezzes
[05:02] <dr_willis> apt-get install packagename
[05:03] <apb1963_> why won't it go away?  Saying it's a metapackge doesn't mean anything to me.
[05:03] <dr_willis> apb1963_:  saying it wont 'go away' tells us nothing
[05:03] <joshuag> i have a gigabyte g1. assain mobo socket 1366
[05:03] <dr_willis> apt-get remove    should remove it
[05:03] <apb1963_> well.. before I installed it, I had a command line.
[05:04] <apb1963_> Now I have a background... with no command line
[05:04] <dr_willis> go to theconsole and you have a command line
[05:04] <apb1963_> And can't access any commands
[05:04] <apb1963_> I'm on the console
[05:04] <apb1963_> all I have is a background
[05:04] <dr_willis> and you see a login: promot or what exactly?
[05:04] <apb1963_> ^^^
[05:04] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f1 should have no background
[05:04] <dr_willis> a through f6
[05:05] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 = the consoles
[05:05] <joshuag> and the only way i could get ubuntu installed is that i had to make my bios into ahci mode
[05:05] <apb1963_> that is a supremely awkward key combination for the record.  Yah I was doing Alt-F1.
[05:05] <dr_willis> its a key combo thats been around for decades..
[05:06] <apb1963_> doesn't make it any less awkward
[05:06] <dr_willis> on the console you just need alt-F# or crerl-f# i think
[05:06] <likes> joshuag: are your log files deleted when you boot again?
[05:06] <dr_willis> so stick to the facts.. YOU do or do not have the f1  through f6 consoles?
[05:06] <joshuag> so i just gave up on the idea of having ubuntu
[05:06] <apb1963_> now I can't get the desktop back.  lol
[05:07] <dr_willis> joshuag with a optimus chipsets you need to use bumblebee. or disable one ccard in the bios
[05:07] <dr_willis> alt-ctrl-f7 = back to X
[05:07] <apb1963_> thank you
[05:07] <apb1963_> ALT-F# does work... I must have been using the wrong keyboard earlier
[05:08] <apb1963_> thank you
[05:08] <Guest67018> sure
[05:08] <apb1963_> but apt-get purge doesn't remove it
[05:08] <dr_willis> remove what?
[05:08] <apb1963_> ubuntu-desktop
[05:08] <dr_willis> it does remove it... but that does NOT remove any of the packages that  got installed along with it.
[05:09] <dr_willis> as we said.. its a meta package.. its SOLE purpose is to pull in OTHER packages
[05:09] <dr_willis> removeing it does not remove those other packages
[05:09] <apb1963_> o i c
[05:09] <Guest67018> can you install IDM on ubuntu
[05:09] <apb1963_> kind of strange that it wouldn't... but ok at least I get it now
[05:09] <dr_willis> so IF your end goal is to hae a text only system - then you should have  said so ;)
[05:09] <dr_willis> It dosent because its the point of a meta-package
[05:09] <apb1963_> well... at the moment I just want to try a different desktop
[05:09] <dr_willis> !text
[05:10] <apb1963_> but eventually yeah... i'll want to go back to text
[05:10] <dr_willis> install whatever desktops you want. :) you can have several. I like Lubuntu-desktop
[05:10] <apb1963_> didn't see that one anywhere
[05:10] <dr_willis> use text mode, or just stop the lightdm service
[05:10] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[05:11] <apb1963_> not that I looked hard.. just the web page I happened to be on at the time...  ubuntugeek.com
[05:11] <apb1963_> can I get it through apt-get?
[05:12] <dr_willis> !info lubuntu-desktop
[05:12] <dr_willis> yes
[05:12] <likes> joshuag: sorry, my phone died
[05:15] <apb1963_> my main goal is really just to be able to run wireshark... which I was able to do with ubuntu-desktop (which the website said was actually unity).  However, it was so sparse and  years ago I tried both gnome and kde which I remember has having THINGS on the desktop... I just got lonely.  :D
[05:15] <apb1963_> s/has/as
[05:15] <dr_willis> wireshark should be able to run on any f the X desktops. or just on X with a window manager
[05:15] <dr_willis> !info wireshark
[05:15] <apb1963_> yeah
[05:16] <dr_willis> might as well use Lubuntu-desktop - its about as simple as it gets
[05:16] <apb1963_> unity is simple... too simple.  I like to see at least a handful of icons...  I'm used to the windoze look & feel.
  did I say that?
[05:17] <dr_willis> unity has a lot of advanced features its not 'simple' ;_
[05:17] <dr_willis> !manual
[05:17] <dr_willis> but unity does want you to have proper 3d video card drivers
[05:17] <dr_willis> which may be why you get just a blank desktop
[05:17] <apb1963_> I guess when I couldn't find wireshark through the desktop, I got a bit frustrated... finally ran it over an ssh connection from windoze.   lol
[05:18] <dr_willis> from what you said. you had no desktop running  if you saw no icons
[05:18] <apb1963_> Yeah, not sure about the video card... it's an old Dell I put back into service
[05:18] <dr_willis> lubuntu would be ideal for older low end hardware
[05:19] <apb1963_> well... that could be...  I was able to access a few things such as a word processor... there was an entry for firefox, thunderbird & mutt... but I really had to poke to find it all.
[05:20] <apb1963_> I did like the background though.  Just didn't like the lack of icons... everything was hidden.
[05:21] <dr_willis> as i said.. you did NOT have unity running properly
[05:21] <dr_willis> see the unity/ubuntu manual or youtube vidoes to se ehow its supposed to look
[05:21] <apb1963_> dunno... just did an apt-get install ubuntu-desktop... then startx
[05:21] <apb1963_> Gave me a background... I figured that was the whole enchilada.
[05:22] <dr_willis> startx is a bit outdated these days also. start the lightdm service. well it should auto start
[05:22] <apb1963_> autostart after installing?
[05:22] <dr_willis> and you will still need proper 3d drivers support for unity to work right
[05:22] <dr_willis> the serevices start on bootup
[05:22] <dr_willis> sudo service lightdm start   to ttart it manually
[05:22] <apb1963_> lets be clear.. unity and ubuntu-desktop are the same?  yes or no?
[05:23] <dr_willis> ubuntu-sesktop INSTALLS the core ubuntu packages.
[05:23] <dr_willis> unity is the default desktop
[05:23] <dr_willis> so no they are not the same
[05:23] <dr_willis> in the same way a 'house' is not a 'kitchen'
[05:23] <apb1963_> so unity is the kitchen
[05:23] <b0rg> hello
[05:24] <dr_willis> !unity
[05:24] <dr_willis> unity is a stove.. in the kitchen
[05:24] <apb1963_> let me go back to lightdm and see what happens
[05:24] <dr_willis> install the lubuntu-desktop package for a fallback desktop
[05:24] <ghostnik11> hi, i am in a new time zone and location and the time in my ubuntu 13.04 never changed its showing the time of my last location
[05:25] <ghostnik11> i thought its suppose to just switch based on location or do i have to do it manually, the time change that is
[05:25] <dr_willis> ghostnik11:  ive never seen it auto-change
[05:25] <dr_willis> the installer checksand suggests.. but ive nevver seen it auto-change
[05:25] <apb1963_> I guess I have video card issues... lightdm gave me a bunch of horizontal lines
[05:26] <dr_willis> apb1963_:  weird.. since you saw a wallpaper.
[05:26] <apb1963_> yes
[05:26] <ghostnik11> dr_willis, so i have to do it manually then, okay
[05:26] <dr_willis> determina your video card with the 'lspci' command
[05:27] <apb1963_> VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]
[05:27] <dr_willis> so the ati fglrs drivers may or may not work for that card
[05:27] <dr_willis> fglrx
[05:28] <ghostnik11> dr_willis, i think its trying to figure it out from network but i am on a new network and not the one that i was on yesterday
[05:28] <apb1963_> I'm voting on "not"
[05:28] <dr_willis> i dont use ati any mre. so i dont keep u with them
[05:28] <apb1963_> unless you're saying I need to install
[05:28] <dr_willis> i dont keep up with them.. ;)
[05:29] <dr_willis> the fglrx drivers are NOT installed by default.
[05:29] <apb1963_> o i c
[05:29] <dr_willis> the open sourced ati drivers are
[05:29] <dr_willis> !fglrx
[05:29] <ghostnik11> dr_willis, this is strange when i go into time and date to change the time, it changes it back and won't let me
[05:30] <dr_willis> ghostnik11:  perhaps check askubuntu.com - i cant recall ever changeing the time in years. ;)
[05:30] <dr_willis> not since indiana went to  est with DST
[05:33] <apb1963_> Is this a match?  Msi X300 se  It says "RV370" same as mine... but obviously mine doesn't say MSI so I'd guess "no".  Your take please?
[05:34] <Muny> Does anyone here know how I could proxy connections from a server with no firewall to a server with a firewall (unable to portforward)?
[05:36] <apb1963_> I think I found it at http://free3d.org/
[05:36] <Muny> Does anyone here know how I could proxy connections from a server with no firewall to a server with a firewall (unable to portforward)?
[05:36] <dr_willis> msi is a brand. the actual chipset is whats imporntant
[05:37] <apb1963_> ATI RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)]      AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 4200+ (1GHz)
[05:37] <dr_willis> Muny:  ssh tunnles perhaps.   they are handy for lots of  cases.
[05:37] <apb1963_> That looks like a better match
[05:38] <ghostnik11> dr_willis, thanks askubuntu said ntpd and ntp then went to date and time and got a chance to switch city. thanks bro
[05:38] <Muny> dr_willis: Do you have a link or anything that explains how I could use an SSH tunnel in my case?
[05:38] <dr_willis> !ssh
[05:38] <b0rg> hello i have a question im looking at going to linux and walking away from windows any suggestions for new users in regurads to linux i have been reading on the web and thier is quite a few to say the least
[05:38] <phaedra> Muny: Also you might want to ask that in #ubuntu-server
[05:38] <dr_willis> !manual | b0rg
[05:39] <devslash> is there a way to force all traffic thru my vpn connection and not allow it otherwise
[05:40] <b0rg> thank you
[05:41] <apb1963_> so the website I mentioned is apparently a benchmarks website for glxgears... does this mean anything to you?
[05:41] <dr_willis> glxgears is just one tool for measureing 3d preformance
[05:41] <Muny> dr_willis: Keep in mind I can't connect to the server behind the firewall from the server with no firewall...so the way I was thinking won't work
[05:42] <dr_willis> Muny:   have the server extablish the tunnel  to the other box perhaps?
[05:42] <dr_willis> reverse tunnel
[05:42] <devslash> does anyone know ?
[05:43] <Ari-Yang> glxgears isn't that good for benchmarking, that's what I heard...
[05:43] <dr_willis> i thought thats how it worked by default devslash
[05:43] <dr_willis> glexears is mor eof a test..
[05:43] <dr_willis> ots not much of a benchmark  really
[05:44] <devslash> dr_willis,  no. if i put my laptop to sleep when i wake it up, the wifi automatically reconnects but the vpn doesnt
[05:44] <Muny> dr_willis: So once I establish a tunnel from the server behind the firewall to the other server, what would I do to proxy connections to the server behind the firewall?
[05:45] <dr_willis> Muny:  not sure. ive just read guide s and seen examples. never really had to do it.
[05:46] <dr_willis> once you got a tunnel  any access to the tunnel goes to the remote on that port from what ive seen.
[05:46] <Captain_Crow>  how up to date are ubuntu's gpu drivers for opengl?
[05:46] <dr_willis> !latest
[05:50] <Captain_Crow> are ubuntu's gpu speeds with opengl reasonable though, would it be practical to make opengl games for ubuntu? is there a ubuntu game/gpu benchmarking site somewhere?
[05:51] <Muny> dr_willis: http://www.howtoforge.com/reverse-ssh-tunneling Found it there, thanks
[05:51] <boggle> I'm interested in starting with a minimal ubuntu install on my laptop and then building on it so i can try out some different DEs, etc. (like arch, without the urge to rip out my fingernails) could i just use the server iso from the website? what would i be missing by going that route, other than unity? would wifi not work out of the box, for instance?
[05:52] <netlar> Hi
[05:54] <apb1963_> Found this: "RV370  Radeon X300, M22" as the closest match and being fully supported.  But there's that M22 I don't know what that means...  mine is Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] so maybe that's why I get horizontal lines?
[05:55] <frameHim> @captain_crow: ya, opengl games exist, u should try > STEAM titles like Dota 2, then decide for urself!
[06:00] <subhojit777> How can I configure notification bubble settings in Ubuntu 13.04
[06:01] <somsip> !mini | boggle
[06:23] <vnwilman> I can't install libgtk2.0-dev
[06:25] <z8z> hi guys do something like file hash db exist on the net with file info and if clean or not and other info like that?
[06:39] <BlitzHere> Hi all
[06:40] <BlitzHere> I have a problem that is described here
[06:40] <BlitzHere> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/987630
[06:41] <BlitzHere> One of the comments mentions that this solves the problem temporarily but I don't understand the instructions
[06:41] <BlitzHere> Enabling nmi_watchdog solved this temp. add /etc/rc.local echo 0 >/proc/sys/kernel/nmi_watchdog
[06:41] <alfacard>         .__                           .__         _______________ _______  ___
[06:41] <alfacard> __  _  _|  |__   ___________   ____   |__| ______ \__    ___/    |   \   \/  /
[06:41] <alfacard> \ \/ \/ /  |  \_/ __ \_  __ \_/ __ \  |  |/  ___/   |    |  |    |   /\     /
[06:41] <alfacard>  \     /|   Y  \  ___/|  | \/\  ___/  |  |\___ \    |    |  |    |  / /     \
[06:41] <alfacard>   \/\_/ |___|  /\___  >__|    \___  > |__/____  >   |____|  |______/ /___/\  "
[06:41] <FloodBot1> alfacard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:41] <chamunks> nub
[06:42] <BlitzHere> Can anyone help?
[06:42] <BlitzHere> Thanks
[06:42] <BlitzHere> actually nevermind
[06:43] <Moscherkobold> good morning
[06:43] <Moscherkobold> ikonia: are you out there?
[06:44] <BlitzHere> I put that before the exit 0 line. I suppose that makes sense...
[06:44] <AcidRain2012> can anyone tell me  how to set transmission as the default program for torrents?
[06:46] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: rightclick a .torrent file, open with... and set the default there
[06:47] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, its not listed. where is it located at?
[06:47] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: its under the internet category
[06:48] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, i dont have any options to select 'under internet category' when im right clicking on a .torrent file
[06:48] <AcidRain2012> actually, i dont have any options at all
[06:49] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: what are you running? unity?
[06:49] <AcidRain2012> eh.. cinnamon
[06:49] <AcidRain2012> never unity
[06:49] <chamunks> why cinnamon over unity?
[06:50] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: what do you see when you rightclick? is there an open with.. option?
[06:50] <AcidRain2012> for reasons that cannot be discussed in this channel
[06:50] <chamunks> Linux Mint's desktop seemed rather immature.
[06:50] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, yes, there is.
[06:50] <chamunks> and lacking
[06:50] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, and thats the only thing i see
[06:50] <dr_willis> !find cinnamon
[06:50] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: what appears when you select it
[06:50] <dr_willis> both use nautilus - so im not sure why the options would differ
[06:50] <chamunks> Unity seems quite  ... needlessly sluggish in some cases but for the most part
[06:50] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, a directory listing in my home folder
[06:50] <chamunks> in some cases.
[06:51] <chamunks> idk
[06:51] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: show us a screenshot
[06:51] <chamunks> but I quite enjoy it it seems fairly forward thinking.
[06:51] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com may have some guides on selecting the defaults for .torrents in other ways
[06:52] <Kartagis> I have uim, uim-anthy and anthy installed but uim doesn't allow me to use anthy for im -- it's not in the list. any ideas?
[06:52] <BlitzHere> exit
[06:52] <chamunks> AcidRain2012,  mind if I PM you?
[06:52] <xavious> Having a bit of trouble with gmusicbrowser. States I need plugins. Wondering as to how to obtain them. A basic repository was provided, but not too certain as to how to utilize it. Any help?
[06:52] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, where can i send screenshot to?
[06:52] <chamunks> I'm quite curious about your reasoning.
[06:52] <AcidRain2012> chamunks, sure
[06:52] <auronandace> !screenshot | AcidRain2012
[06:53] <AcidRain2012> http://imagebin.org/268261
[06:54] <touristtam> hi just a quick noobish question: can I downgrade from 12.10 to 12.04 LTS ? did the upgrade by mistake (unclear message and years of windows usage did the trick :/ )
[06:54] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: i wanted to see the screen after you click choose
[06:54] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, sorry :/ hang on
[06:54] <auronandace> touristtam: no
[06:54] <dr_willis> err.. thats  saing for magnet links. not .torrent files
[06:55] <wilee-nilee> touristtam, You will have to do a fresh install to get 12.04 back, there is 13.04 as well.
[06:55] <dr_willis> touristtam:  may as well go on to 13.04 ;)
[06:55] <AcidRain2012> http://imagebin.org/268262
[06:56] <xavious> Just need a little advice on obtaining the proper plugins for gmusicbrowser so it will actually play music...any help?
[06:56] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: what is the output of cat /etc/issue
[06:56] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis, so what is stopping ubuntu from doing a normal update? and just keep updating. why do they insist on doing full upgrade?
[06:56] <touristtam> feth me, I am raging right now, can't remember seeing any mention of upgrade to 12.10 in that partial upgrade message .... it doesnt make me feel very confident in using ubuntu
[06:56] <AcidRain2012> Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[06:57] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: torrent files already open with transmission by default on 12.04
[06:57] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis, so issues like what touristtam is talking about wont happen. because i too once suffered from such
[06:57] <dr_willis> normally it asks for LTS to LTS or fro one NON lts to the next.. Unless you check some check box for it to ask for lts -> nonlts
[06:57] <coder2> Hello. I've just confirmed last auto-update on my laptop. It delivers new kernel linux-image-3.2.0-52-generic (was 3.2.0-51) and fglrx-updates/amdccle-updates. The update broke display brightness control. Please help me to fix this.
[06:57] <AcidRain2012> auronandace, when i click on a torrent file, weather it be a file, or a link, it shows me the first picture that i showed u
[06:57] <dr_willis> AcidRain2012:  if that optcion is checked.. it will ask for LTS to non lts.
[06:59] <touristtam> dr_willis: do you know where would that pesky checkbox be?
[06:59] <auronandace> AcidRain2012: cinnamon is not supported on 12.04 anyway
[06:59] <dr_willis> touristtam:  you checked it at one time.. its not the default.  Not sure where its at
[06:59] <dr_willis> normally people ask where its at to enable it.
[07:00] <xavious> No advice for obtaining gmusicbrowser plugins?
[07:00] <touristtam> coolio, I ll look it up, but that feel like a british gov policy to me :p
[07:01] <karab44> Hello
[07:02] <dr_willis> moo
[07:02] <karab44> I have a real problem now, one of my Ubuntu desktops wont upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 LTS, when updating says can not update sourcelist
[07:05] <psy^_> pokpokpok
[07:07] <coder2> thanks anyway
[07:07] <wilee-nilee> !eol | karab44 read carefully
[07:08] <karab44> great isn't it why I want to upgrade to supported version?
[07:08] <wilee-nilee> karab44, You have to use a end of life upgrade the link tells you how.
[07:09] <bluenemo> hi guys. i've installed ubuntu server 12.04 on a server ;) and did a loadkeys us for setup. now when I loadkeys de I get a unknown charset unicode - ignoring charset request, loadkeys loads the right file but nothing happens. dpkg-reconfigure console-{data,keyboard-configuration} doesn't bring any result either. how do I change the system default back to german layout?
[07:09] <karab44> you know why I won't to upgrade? because of quuite old and slow computer but now... I just considered it would be better to do this
[07:10] <wilee-nilee> karab44, What is this?
[07:10] <karab44> system upgrade
[07:11] <karab44> the upgrade is avaliable but after I click Yes I get errors
[07:11] <mirko_> I am facing a weird internet connection problem and I don't even know how to find some useful logs for it. Basically I am connected to my home network through wifi using wicd, I can access with either firefox or chrome any page at decent speed, but both browsers hang forever when I try to connect on some websites like Gmail and Facebook. Can this be related with cookies or https connecstions? is there a way to find some u
[07:11] <mirko_> seful log informations? on the wicd log nothing happen and I don't know how to log the firefox connections during a connection attempt... thanks!
[07:11] <sigtest> nihao
[07:11] <touristtam> thanks again for the quick answer. have a ncie one :)
[07:11] <wilee-nilee> karab44, I'm not sure what the problem is, you have to follow a specific path on an eol to uprade, this link tells you how.
[07:11] <sigtest> nihaoma
[07:11] <sigtest2> sigtest zaina
[07:12] <wilee-nilee> karab44, The upgrade in the upgrade gui will not work.
[07:15] <karab44> I see
[07:19] <wilee-nilee> karab44, This link shows the same info but a little clearer. http://www.westernwillow.com/cms/blog/franco/upgrading-old-or-end-life-eol-release-ubuntu-back-usefulness
[07:19] <crazyhorse> i'm runnning google chrome under ubutnu
[07:19] <crazyhorse> quite often when i open tabs or switch tabs it lags, or shows blank pages
[07:19] <crazyhorse> is this normal?
[07:19] <crazyhorse> this is also for tabs i've already visted and opened
[07:23] <wilee-nilee> crazyhorse, Does not sound normal, I suspect chrome has a reset like firefox you might loo on the web.
[07:23] <wilee-nilee> look
[07:26] <wilee-nilee> crazyhorse, I found this backup your bookmarks first to be safe. http://en.kioskea.net/faq/6361-reset-your-browser-restore-your-browser-to-default-settings#how-to-reset-google-chrome
[07:29] <crazyhorse> wilee-nilee: thanks i'll give it a try
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[07:40] <hilarie> I am running under live with persistance, is there anyway to change how much a mouse clickwheel scrolls down?
[07:55] <neopsyche> hi all
[07:56] <HisaoNakai> !hi
[07:57] <neopsyche> Hi all, im having a problem with wireless that was disconnecting after a few minutes (atheros) and not accepting WPA, i did kernel backport as mentioned in a forum.. now wireless not showing on connections tab (ubuntu 13.04)
[07:59] <Nakkivene> Im trying to make a game with bash
[08:00] <neopsyche> Nakkivene, bash your head against the wall till its not fun anymore. :-)
[08:00] <neopsyche> (joke)
[08:01] <Myrtti> Nakkivene: _with_ bash, or for commandline
[08:01] <Nakkivene> bash
[08:03] <Myrtti> ok
[08:08] <HisaoNakai> !hello
[08:11] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[08:13] <joshuag> hello
[08:13] <joshuag> need help
[08:14] <joshuag> i need help
[08:14] <blazemore> !ask
[08:14] <joshuag> how do u disable visual effects and switch display drivers in ubuntu
[08:14] <ZIPY> joshuag: just ask your question and be patient if it doesnt get answered  fast
[08:16] <ZIPY> joshuag: what visual effects?
[08:16] <joshuag> windows
[08:16] <htaccess> hello there, i am running 12.04, steam sugested i upgrade invidia drivers and now i am booting to a black screen with a flashing cursor, have tried a bunch of google suggestions, looking for help to get x running
[08:16] <joshuag> i think their causeing my ubuntu to frezze
[08:19] <joshuag> how do i do it in command line
[08:20] <joshuag> does it hurt a computer to restart alot
[08:21] <joshuag> cuz i only get like a few mins before it frezzes while in gui
[08:21] <joshuag> command line works good
[08:21] <joshuag> but once it frezzes i cant do a single thing to restart other than to power on and off
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> joshuag, Has this happened since you installed?
[08:22] <joshuag> yea
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> joshuag, Whewn did you install, and how have you been powering of when freezing?
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> joshuag: have you tested RAM health using MemTest86+ from Grub
[08:23] <joshuag> no
[08:23] <joshuag> well just the power button on the computer
[08:23] <joshuag> and my memory should be ok
[08:24] <wilee-nilee> !reisub | joshuag
[08:24] <joshuag> if i could remmber that
[08:25] <wilee-nilee> joshuag, Power button is a hard shutdown and not a good thing in general, what is the hardware the chip and ram amount?
[08:25] <joshuag> hold on let me wright it down
[08:27] <joshuag> what chip u mean
[08:27] <joshuag> cpu
[08:27] <joshuag> or chipset
[08:29] <joshuag> i do have performance ram and its 24gigs
[08:30] <joshuag> cpu is intel 960 socket 1366
[08:30] <joshuag> chipset is x58
[08:31] <wilee-nilee> joshuag, So the computer is new enough in general, thats all I was trying to confirm
[08:32] <wilee-nilee> you might do a memory check though this can be a game of knocking out variables to find the cause.
[08:33] <joshuag> ok i will brb
[08:42] <Veidit> Good evning, is there some good way to change to the linux-virtual kernel after installation? GRUB still picks the generic instead.
[08:44] <Veidit> Well I should say good morning :)
[08:51] <Rad_Ahemn> Hi there - looking for a network guru to answer why when my ubuntu box joins my wireless network it works but nothing else on the network does...
[08:52] <bazhang> Rad_Ahemn, what are the others, since Ubuntu one is working
[08:53] <Rad_Ahemn> bazhang, win 7 and 8
[08:53] <bazhang> Rad_Ahemn, try in ##windows
[08:54] <jjavaholic> I seem to have uninstalled unity and can't seem to get it installed again.
[08:54] <bazhang> jjavaholic, uninstalled how exactly, details needed
[08:55] <neetz> Hey , I reinstalled windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 on my system 2 days back. Both OS were working fine . Yesterday I  Installed Nvidia Graphic card on windows 7  and I switched to ubuntu after rebooting it , ubuntu did not boot ( it says nouvea i2wc faill .... ). I have installed ubuntu on a seperate partition
[08:55] <jjavaholic> sudo apt-get remove unity I think
[08:55] <neetz> Hey , I reinstalled windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 on my system 2 days back. Both OS were working fine . Yesterday I  Installed Nvidia Graphic card on windows 7  and I switched to ubuntu after rebooting it , ubuntu did not boot ( it says nouvea i2wc faill .... ). I have installed ubuntu on a seperate partition
[08:55] <bazhang> !info unity
[08:56] <bazhang> jjavaholic, so reinstall it
[08:56] <jjavaholic> the output from apt-cache policy unity is: http://pastebin.com/M9qHA2Uz
[08:56] <jjavaholic> whenever I try to I get an unmet dependency.
[08:56] <Rad_Ahemn> thanks bazhang
[08:57] <neetz> can anyone help me please]
[08:57] <neetz> Hey , I reinstalled windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 on my system 2 days back. Both OS were working fine . Yesterday I  Installed Nvidia Graphic card on windows 7  and I switched to ubuntu after rebooting it , ubuntu did not boot ( it says nouvea i2wc faill .... ). I have installed ubuntu on a seperate partition
[08:57] <jjavaholic> unity : Depends: libunity-core-6.0-5 (= 7.0.0daily13.06.19~13.04-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[08:58] <neetz> Hey , I reinstalled windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04 on my system 2 days back. Both OS were working fine . Yesterday I  Installed Nvidia Graphic card on windows 7  and I switched to ubuntu after rebooting it , ubuntu did not boot ( it says nouvea i2wc faill .... ). I have installed ubuntu on a seperate partition
[08:59] <jjavaholic> even with a sudo apt-get install -f unity that still fails with unmet dependencies.
[09:00] <bazhang> jjavaholic, got some 3rd party PPA in there?
[09:01] <jjavaholic> heaps of them
[09:01] <bazhang> likely they are the culprits
[09:01] <bazhang> ppa-purge the m one by one and find out, or use something other than unity, like gnome-shell plus its extensions
[09:02] <bazhang> !ppa-purge
[09:03] <jjavaholic> won't that get rid of the apps that some of of the apps rely on being in place? them
[09:05] <helmut_> hi
[09:06] <bazhang> they are 3rd party PPA, why would they. heaps of them is just a recipe for disaster
[09:07] <jjavaholic> getting a list of the ppa identifier is done how?
[09:08] <blubberdi> Hi, can someone please tell me if (and how) I can make `apt-get install foo bar blub` without marking the packages as manually installed if they aren't already marked. I want to upgrade some packages (but not all).
[09:08] <hildebrandus> Does anyone have any experience in using ubuntu on the pandaboard?
[09:14] <hildebrandus> has anybody used ubuntu on pandaboard here?
[09:14] <ikonia> I don't believe it works due to the wrong arm version,
[09:14] <ikonia> could be wrong on that though
[09:15] <hildebrandus> I have got a working console in my serial port console but not getting anything in the display.
[09:16] <hildebrandus> giving startx says already some display is available.
[09:18] <jjavaholic> finding the correct PPA URIS for Purge-ppa is done how?
[09:19] <somsip> !ppa | jjavaholic
[09:19] <somsip> jjavaholic: so, do some searching on there
[09:19] <ikonia> hildebrandus: is the pandaboard a differnt arm version than the pi then ?
[09:22] <hildebrandus> pandaboard has an omap 4460 chip on it. Its a Corex-A9 dual core chip. Should be similar.
[09:22] <hildebrandus> I got the image from linaro.org
[09:23] <peter1210> i have window 7, Ubuntu and Windows xp installed and using Grub to boot. i reinstalled Windows 7 and now Windows XP can't boot. it says ntldr is missing but the file is there
[09:23] <ikonia> peter1210: the guys in ##windows can help you fix that
[09:23] <hildebrandus> ikonia: which version is the pi? I have never used it.
[09:23] <ikonia> hildebrandus: 2
[09:23] <peter1210> but i am using grub
[09:24] <ikonia> peter1210: grub isn't complaining ntldr is missing - the windows boot loader is, your chainloading the windows boot loader
[09:24] <ikonia> peter1210: grub doesn't know/care about ntldr
[09:24] <k1l> hildebrandus: i think you will have more feedback in #ubuntu-arm to arm related issues
[09:25] <hildebrandus> I wasn't aware of that channel. Thanks k1l
[09:26] <peter1210> i thought someone else may had this problem too on triple boot install
[09:28] <pranav> is there a software in ubuntu in which I can write control statements to move my mouse and make clips when necessary ?
[09:28] <hildebrandus> peter1210: is your windows boot setting having the xp details?
[09:28] <pranav> on the screen
[09:28] <ikonia> peter1210: ##windows can help you sort your windows boot loader out
[09:30] <hildebrandus> pranav have you tried xdotool
[09:31] <pranav> hildebrandus: thanks :)
[09:31] <hildebrandus> you're most welcome pranav
[09:33] <pranav> I want to read the pixel colors on the screen, maybe store then in 2D-array, and then again use the information to move my mouse and click on the points ? :D
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> pranav: http://tuxradar.com/content/xdotool-script-your-mouse
[09:36] <Atlantic777> My wired network interface eth0 just dissapeared. It worked few days ago. I have lenovo thinkpad edte e420 laptop and it uses r8169 driver. Here's part of dmesg which seems to have relevant messages: https://paste.lugons.org/show/4ygzxLMdrtAazJD2XlsT/
[09:41] <pranav> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[09:42] <xkernel> what is the most secure IRC application server?
[09:42] <rixon> c
[09:43] <rixon> hi all
[09:43] <Bigsista> hi. short question on 12.04 ltss kernels: i compared kernel configs for Ubuntu 3.5.0-39.60~precise1-generic and Ubuntu 3.2.0-52.78-virtual. seems both have xen-pv support enabled. so which kernel is preffredd to run on a xen domU?
[09:43] <mirko_> I am facing a weird internet connection problem and I don't even know how to find some useful logs for it. Basically I am connected to my home network through wifi using wicd, I can access with either firefox or chrome any page at decent speed, but both browsers hang forever when I try to connect on some websites like Gmail and Facebook. Can this be related with cookies or https connections? is there a way to find some us
[09:43] <mirko_> eful log informations? on the wicd log nothing happen and I don't know how to log the firefox connections during a connection attempt... thanks!
[09:43] <rixon> i would need some help
[09:43] <rixon> i have 12.04 ubuntu
[09:44] <ikonia> rixon: explain the problem, and people will tyr to help
[09:44] <gry> Ask on one line please and thank you.
[09:44] <rixon> and i tryed to install league of legends on it with playonlinux/winehq
[09:44] <rixon> it works fine but at loading screen it crash:s
[09:44] <ikonia> and there is your problem, playonlinux/winehq
[09:44] <k1l> !wine | rixon
[09:44] <bazhang> rixon, #winehq for that
[09:44] <rixon> okay
[09:45] <rixon> thx for help
[09:45] <Jahm> Hi
[09:46] <Jahm> Can anyone help me with the wifi of my Asus EEEPC 1000H please?
[09:46] <Bigsista> anyone on the kernel thing?
[09:46] <ikonia> Bigsista: what kernel thing ?
[09:46] <Bigsista> hi. short question on 12.04 ltss kernels: i compared kernel configs for Ubuntu 3.5.0-39.60~precise1-generic and Ubuntu 3.2.0-52.78-virtual. seems both have xen-pv support enabled. so which kernel is preffredd to run on a xen domU?
[09:47] <ikonia> Bigsista: virtual is meant for guests I believe
[09:53] <Jahm> Anyone?
[09:54] <hildebrandus> yes, iahm?
[09:54] <Jahm> I have an Asus EEEPC 1000H but my WiFi won't work
[09:54] <bazhang> Jahm, whats the chipset for that eeepc 1000h wifi
[09:54] <hildebrandus> i mean jahm
[09:55] <Jahm> Wait gonna boot my laptop
[09:55] <Jahm> I checked my BIOS, and WLAN was disabled
[09:55] <hildebrandus> Is any firmware required for your wlan?
[09:56] <Jahm> So
[09:56] <Jahm> Still won't work
[09:56] <k1l> Jahm: please pastebin the ooutput of "sudo rfkill list"
[09:57] <bazhang> Jahm, whats the chipset as I asked
[09:57] <hildebrandus> which ubuntu are you using? You must enable wlan in your laptop and ensure it is ON.
[09:58] <Kartagis> I have uim, uim-anthy and anthy installed but uim doesn't allow me to use anthy for im -- it's not in the list. any ideas?
[09:58] <xkernel> Rhythmbox is not adding mp3s to the library
[09:59] <hildebrandus> In 12.04 wifi works out of the box. old versions had some issue I believe.
[09:59] <Jahm> hildebrandus: 12.04LTS and Idk why it's not working out of the box
[10:00] <Jahm> k1l: http://pastebin.com/bV7bgfkT
[10:00] <Jahm> bazhang: how do I check my chipset please?
[10:00] <k1l> Jahm:  Soft blocked: yes
[10:00] <Jahm> k1l: what does that mean?
[10:00] <hildebrandus> see if this page gives some help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes
[10:01] <k1l> Jahm: press the fn shortcut printed on your keyboard to activate it
[10:02] <Jahm> My WiFi is already lit blue
[10:02] <Jahm> It doesn't turn off when fn+F2 (WiFi switch)
[10:03] <Jahm> Oh there
[10:03] <Jahm> Thanks k1l :*
[10:03] <Jahm> hildebrandus: thanks for the help as well
[10:03] <hildebrandus> you're most welcome jahm
[10:05] <mirko_> can anybody help with my internet connection problem written before? I ve searched a lot but without luck. even using a safe mode and clean profile on firefox and trying with a terminal browser I cannot access webistes like gmail, google calendar (connection last forerever then stops)
[10:11] <xwalk> what is this
[10:11] <brucewhealton> Hello all...  I'm looking for help with networking on ubuntu.  For example, how could I get a message that says there is no internet connection when I am browsing and using the internet on my Ubuntu box?  I first installed Ubuntu Server then added the Kubuntu desktop
[10:11] <bazhang> !irc > xwalk
[10:12] <k1l> brucewhealton: you were here yesterday, too?
[10:12] <brucewhealton> k1l: No, I haven't been here in a long while
[10:13] <k1l> brucewhealton: on a server the network is handeled by the /etc/network/interfaces and not the Networkmanager.  if you want the NM to handle the networking comment out the devices in the interfaces file (except the "lo" one)
[10:13] <brucewhealton> I was trying to find my IP address on the internet network for my ubuntu system
[10:17] <brucewhealton> So, do I run a command called interfaces
[10:17] <k1l> no
[10:18] <brucewhealton> I don't know if it is a desktop app or a terminal command
[10:18] <k1l> it is a configuration file
[10:19] <brucewhealton> Oh, ok
[10:20] <brucewhealton> so, how do I find the IP assigned to the ubuntu server - the internal IP?
[10:21] <k1l> if you just want to know the ip type "ifconfig"
[10:21] <BluesKaj> HI folks
 thanks
[10:24] <brucewhealton> I'd like to assign a permanent IP address within my network... Is that a setting in the config file?
[10:27] <brucewhealton> I had it setup with a domain name that can be accessed locally and on the web.  Now, that domain is not coming up in the browser
[10:28] <ikonia> brucewhealton: depends if you want to remove your machine from dhcp or if you want to assign a satic mapping in the dhcp server
[10:29] <codephobic> hi,
[10:30] <codephobic> just recently I've been having a lot of problems with a virtualbox windows 7 guest.
[10:30] <codephobic> it randomly freezes up and sometimes reboots
[10:30] <bazhang> codephobic, try #vbox
[10:30] <codephobic> bazhang, I'm trying to figure out whether it is ubuntu specific
[10:31] <codephobic> my host is ubuntu 13.04 and virtualbox is 4.2.16
[10:31] <gry> suppose just try on a fresh setup with a different OS to figure that out, rather than ask at the distro channel
[10:31] <codephobic> k
[10:32] <brucewhealton> I think my web hosting provider did something unexpected.  All my forwarding rules, set in the router config are now set to <IP_ADDRESS> and not the external IP address.  They also changed the username for my network.
[10:33] <gry> change them back and save in the iptables config file
[10:33] <gry> possibly also contact your host to ask what's up i guess
[10:33] <BluesKaj> codephobic, do you have windows updates on auto , if so you may be running out of resources at times
[10:35] <codephobic> BluesKaj, I do but I should be ok for resources, I have 16GB of RAM and an ok cpu
[10:35] <tuxxxer> hello all. i have a problem during apt-get update "W: GPG error: http://mirrors.dotsrc.org precise-getdeb Release: "
[10:35] <brucewhealton> I was curious about how popular newsgroups are...  My ISP stopped supporting newsgroups years ago.  I would ask for anyone's feedback on the popularity of newsgroups
[10:36] <tuxxxer> what should i do to fix it?
[10:36] <BluesKaj> codephobic, how much RAM and disk space is assigned to VB?
[10:36] <k1l> !ot | brucewhealton
[10:37] <codephobic> BluesKaj, I set 4GB of RAM and 2 cores plus 60GB disk for the windows 7 guest
[10:38] <BluesKaj> codephobic, do you have guest additions installed too ?
[10:38] <codephobic> BluesKaj, yep
[10:39] <brucewhealton> sorry about that.  I was wondering what resources exist for getting support for Ubuntu
[10:39] <SLayeRDK> question: is there a failsafe boot option for 12.04 _
[10:39] <k1l> brucewhealton: irc, askubuntu, ubuntu forums, local groups, commercial support by canonical,...
[10:40] <codephobic> BluesKaj, it's a very recent issue (5-6 days) of instability and I found that setting the screen size smaller (1920*1200 native, VM is at 1680*1050) reduced the frequency of crashes... but I can't figure out why it is happening at all.
[10:40] <brucewhealton> cool...
[10:41] <codephobic> this is why I suspected that it was a recent ubuntu 13.04 update issue, as I've had quite a few "glitches" occur with this iteration of ubuntu.
[10:41] <BluesKaj> codephobic, I'm not real impressed with VB gtaphics driver , dunno why VB can't use the same driver as ubuintu
[10:42] <BluesKaj> err graphics
[10:43] <paul_beginner> hi
[10:43] <brucewhealton> so, what about issues related to configuring email in Ubuntu?  I need a mta to send email, so can someone recommend an email server for Ubuntu?  I know only about Exim.
[10:43] <codephobic> BluesKaj, yeah that's something I found odd too. Googled a bit and the best answer I found (and have probably misunderstood) is that it would give VBox direct access to the graphics engine and thus mean that it could bring down the whole system ...
[10:43] <BluesKaj> codephobic, or windows version
[10:44] <BluesKaj> of the same driver
[10:44] <codephobic> BluesKaj, I don't use windows much but it might be worth installing ubuntu in VBox in a host W7 rather than the way I'm going.
[10:45] <codephobic> to be honest, I used to much prefer ubuntu, faster, robust and leaner -  allowed me to run 4 headless VMs and learn all sorts of things.
[10:45] <alex___> hi , when i change my icon theme , icon on the top right ( battery , wireless and audio ) take an ugly theme
[10:45] <codephobic> now I find Windows 7 is probably a good deal more stable than Ubuntu 13 and also less of a resource drain.
[10:45] <BluesKaj> codephobic, well asking in vbox looks like the next step
[10:46] <codephobic> BluesKaj, thanks for the responses  :) I've asked there too ... but it's a bit dead in there.
[10:46] <alex___> anyone :p
[10:46] <ActionPa1snip> alex___: wassup?
[10:46] <alex___> hi , when i change my icon theme , icon on the top right ( battery , wireless and audio ) take an ugly theme
[10:47] <BluesKaj> codephobic, I have W7 on a separate drive and IME it draws more resources than ubuntu 13.04
[10:47] <Kartagis> I have uim, uim-anthy and anthy installed but uim doesn't allow me to use anthy for im -- it's not in the list. any ideas?
[10:47] <mike2135> how do i control wifi from the CLI?
[10:48] <mike2135> without killing myself
[10:48] <alex___> someone have the same bug / problem
[10:49] <SLayeRDK> is there a failsafe boot option for 12.04 ?
[10:49] <alex___> SlayeRDK yep
[10:50] <red> Heya, I added a new user and added bash as it's default with chsh -s /bin/bash username
[10:50] <red> but the default abbreviations like "ll" don't work on that account and the coloring things that ls -l etc. have are not available
[10:50] <red> how do I make it identical to default?
[10:50] <alex___> how can i change the indicator icon
[10:50] <tuxxxer> hello all. i have a problem during apt-get update "W: GPG error: http://mirrors.dotsrc.org precise-getdeb Release: "
[10:51] <tuxxxer> what should i do to fix it?
[10:51] <hildebrandus> mike2135: iwlist and iwconfig commands are available which you can read about.
[10:52] <mike2135> something like wifi-menu for arch?
[10:52] <alex___> mike2135 =="" ubuntu not arch here
[10:53] <tuxxxer> any suggestion?
[10:53] <ikonia> tuxxxer: contact the get-deb maintainers and ask them to provide/fix their gpg key
[10:57] <red> ok solved something but a followup:
[10:58] <red> If I ssh into my ubuntu box on a new user, the .bashrc file isn't loaded automaticly (if I source .bashrc I get the goodness working but why isnt it automatic\how to fix?)
[10:58] <ikonia> red: look at .bash_profile
[10:58] <red> what am i looking at in there
[10:58] <ikonia> if that calls .bashrc
[10:59] <dik> hi
[10:59] <dik> i wana know does apache _ mod_selinux works in ubuntu
[10:59] <ikonia> dik: if you setup and configure selinux in ubuntu it will do
[11:00] <ikonia> dik: selinux isn't configured by default in ubuntu
[11:00] <red> ikonia: so I add "source .bashrc" therE?
[11:00] <dik> i have configured it but i am asking about mod_selinux for apache on ubuntu
[11:00] <ActionPa1snip> alex___: tried logging off and on?
[11:00] <ikonia> red: try it....
[11:01] <ikonia> dik: yes, it should work fine.
[11:01] <ikonia> dik: the distro shouldn't matter
[11:01] <red> ikonia: worked
[11:01] <red> thanks
[11:02] <dik> actually i have enabled selinnux in my system and apache also
[11:02] <alex___> ActionPa1snip in fact when i change icon's theme , top right icon ( battery , wireless ... )take a basic ugly theme
[11:02] <dik> apache.pp (policy module) is also loaded. now tell me what is the procedure to configure apache with mod_selinux?
[11:03] <burg> hello. i have ubuntu 13.04 64bit. after the last update my usb stick is not detected anymore
[11:05] <alex___> ActionPa1snip not work
[11:05] <cfhowlett> burg, test the stick in a different machine.  they do break down.  or test a different stick in your 13.04
[11:06] <burg> cfhowlett, after about 1 minute, if i type dmesg | tail -n10 i can see: usb 2-1.6: reset high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci-pci
[11:06] <burg> if i plug it in in an usb3.0 port i get the same type of answer
[11:06] <dik> actually i have enabled selinnux in my system and apache also	apache.pp (policy module) is also loaded. now tell me what is the procedure to configure apache with mod_selinux?
[11:06] <burg> the problem is similar to this one: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1311661
[11:07] <jjavaholic> I found the offending PPA thanks guys.
[11:12] <burg> cfhowlett, any idea?
[11:12] <ravi_> hi
[11:14] <ActionPa1snip> alex___: are other themes ok
[11:14] <cfhowlett> burg, sorry, no idea.  state details and ask the channel again.  someone smarter than I will know.
[11:15] <alex___> 1ctionPalsnip : theme problem with other theme ( the icon's take a basical theme (ugly ))
[11:15] <neopsyche> can anyone help me remove backport kernal package and revert to old packages
[11:15] <neopsyche> (original packages)
[11:16] <neopsyche> msg: supergreg hi
[11:17] <dik> actually i have enabled selinnux in my system and apache also
[11:17] <dik> 	dik	apache.pp (policy module) is also loaded. now tell me what is the procedure to configure apache with mod_selinux?
[11:17] <dik> 	alex___	ActionPa1snip in fac
[11:17] <dik> actually i have enabled selinnux in my system and apache also
[11:17] <dik> 	dik	apache.pp (policy module) is also loaded. now tell me what is the procedure to configure apache with mod_selinux?
[11:17] <dik> 	alex___	ActionPa1snip in fac
[11:17] <FloodBot1> dik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:19] <paul_beginner> hi guys. what does tar xvzf mean?/do?
[11:19] <auronandace> paul_beginner: man tar
[11:21] <paul_beginner> hmm. .ok so I use tar xvzf "filename" to specifie a file that I want to work with?
[11:22] <MonkeyDust> paul_beginner  tar is similar to zip, what do you want to do?
[11:23] <paul_beginner> i have a tar.gz file and I want to run it. I'm day 1 beginner level with ubuntu/linux :)
[11:24] <auronandace> paul_beginner: you don't run tar files, they are archives
[11:24] <auronandace> !software | paul_beginner
[11:24] <k1l> paul_beginner: is there a reason you dont use the programs that ubuntu ships with the package system?
[11:24] <paul_beginner> not sure what that means. sry
[11:25] <paul_beginner> I'll check the help page. thanks bot
[11:25] <MonkeyDust> paul_beginner  the x in that line means extract, as unzip http://linuxmanpages.com/man1/tar.1.php
[11:25] <paul_beginner> ahh
[11:25] <mathnode> paul_beginner, did you download an application of somekind?
[11:25] <paul_beginner> only the tar zippd file
[11:26] <mathnode> paul_beginner, have you tried looking in the Ubuntu Software Centre, for the application?
[11:26] <k1l> paul_beginner: other that windows, where you install stuff you loaded from websites, ubuntu got a software system, which brings alot of programs. they are to prefer because they are already made working with ubuntu
[11:26] <paul_beginner> okay I'll check that too
[11:27] <paul_beginner> ty
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> paul_beginner  do you know what repos are?
[11:33] <paul_beginner> no
[11:33] <paul_beginner> what is it?
[11:34] <auronandace> !repos | paul_beginner
[11:35] <DJones> paul_beginner: In simple terms, the Ubuntu repo's are similar to Apple's app store, its a library of applications that have been preconfigured to install and run on Ubuntu through a couple of simple commands or using the Software Centre application to search through & install from
[11:36] <mike2135> im trying to run nm-applet on its own in another wm
[11:36] <mike2135> besides the gnome default
[11:36] <gisli> when attempting to install a package from backports, how can I see which version of the package is in backport?
[11:36] <mike2135> and these random errors crop up...  Could not create object for /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/ActiveConnection/6: Method "GetAll" with signature "s" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist
[11:36] <mike2135> when i try to connect to a network..i googled it with only useless results...anyone know this prob?